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Title: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on November 10, 2006, 01:47:12 PM
Just thought id start one on the new board   ;D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on November 12, 2006, 05:18:09 PM
Crossmaglen beat Mullahoran by 2-13 to 1-07 today, Disappointing... not sure how Drumalee got on?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Blue06 on November 13, 2006, 01:28:23 PM
Just carrying on from the old board where AC39 was having another go at Keogan for bringing John McGinn on board as team co-ordinater.  Behind the times you are AC39(as you suggested yourself) as Eamon Coleman appointed Mickey Reilly as team 'liaison officer' 3 years ago when he took over.  Don't know if he continued this role in McElklennons time though. 

McGinn imo is an excellent administrator and will do a good job.  Keogans responsibility is to create a successful Cavan team and issues such as players expenses etc shouldn't be taking up his time. 

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on November 13, 2006, 02:04:54 PM
Yeah the Mullahoors didn't stand up to Cross like I thought they would. Sad reflection on Cavan club football etc. etc. we say the same every year!

Hope Drumalee did well anyway.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on November 13, 2006, 03:51:30 PM
heard drumalee were beat by four points.  dissapointed by mullahorn i though they would have put up a better fight but i suppose the early goal didn't help.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on November 16, 2006, 01:59:47 PM
Fixtures for this weekend and the next few weekends aswell...Just to bump up this thread.

Saturday 18th November.



T.P.Smith.

A.C.F.L. Division 1

Final.



Ballinagh v Gowna

in Cornafean at 2.30 p.m.

Referee : Packie Smith.

Linesmen : Brendan Sweeney,Martin Sexton.



Hotel Kilmore.

Under 21 Division 1.

Championship(Semi-Final)



Lurgan v Castlerahan

in Kingscourt at 2 p.m.

Referee : Donal Reilly.

(Extra time if necessary)



Hotel Kilmore.

Under 21 Division 2.

Championship (Semi-Final)



Drumalee v Ballyhaise

in Lavey at 2 p.m.

Referee : Padraig Kelleher.

(Extra time if necessary)



Sunday 19th November.



Lakeside Manor Hotel.

A.C.F.L. Division 3.

Semi-Final (Replay)



Cornafean v Killeshandra

in Templeport at 2 p.m.

Referee : Joe McQuillan.

Linesmen : Jim Hyland,James Clarke.

(Extra time if necessary)



Hotel Kilmore.

Under 21 Division 2.

Semi-Final.



Lavey v Shercock

in Virginia at 2 p.m.

Referee : Robbie McDermott.

(Extra time if necessary)



Sunday 26th November.



Hotel Kilmore.

Under 21 Division 1

Championship Semi-Final .



Parnells v Killygarry

in Templeport at 2 p.m.

Referee : M.G.Brady.

(Extra time if necessary)



Hotel Kilmore.

Under 21 Division 2.

Championship Final.



Drumalee or Ballyhaise

V

Lavey or Shercock



Sunday 3rd December.



Hotel Kilmore.

Under 21 Division 1.

Championship Final



Lurgan or Castlerahan

V

Parnells or Killygarry



Lakeside Manor Hotel.

A.C.F.L. Division 3.

Final.



Cavan Gaels v Cornafean or Killeshandra



Suspensions.



Dean Connolly Cootehill.

rest of game effective 07/10/06.

Fiachra Cork Castlerahan.

4 weeks plus next game in competition

effective from 29/10/06.

Donal Thomas Killygarry.

4 weeks plus next game in competition

effective from 28/10/06.

Sean McCormick Ballyhaise

rest of game effective 04/11/06.





Thomas Cooney Bailieborough

4 weeks plus next game in competition

effective from 04/11/06.

Fergal Slowey Ballyhaise.

rest of game effective 28/10/06.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on November 17, 2006, 02:03:07 PM
Anyone any news on how county training is going?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: CavanCola on November 17, 2006, 02:07:16 PM

Any idea when the senior team will be playing their first match under Keoghan? ???
Are there any challenge match's we could review progress at?
All this talk about Gallagher... I guess it gives us options at least. He can be shown the road if he starts giving trouble. Who'd want him after that anyway... so I think its up to him to behave.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on November 17, 2006, 02:39:54 PM
Cavan Cola, there's a blast from the past!! Those of a certain vintage will remember it's bottled stout-like consistency and blackness, pleasing moustache left on the lips after a swig, and also the near-scrape they could have had with chronic ill-health if the EU hadn't banned it for having too much sugar and God knows what else in it.

At least that's what I heard had happened anyway. Anyone else remember it? ;D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on November 17, 2006, 02:42:43 PM
yeah it was some stuff.  are u serious about it being banned 4 having 2 mcuh sugar?  ::)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: CavanCola on November 17, 2006, 03:05:25 PM
Cavan Cola would put hairs on your chest. Does its 80's demise coincide with the deterioration in Cavan's football fortunes? Maybe Donal K should consider restocking the Cavan panels training sessions with the black stuff instead of these fancy multicoloured energy drinks that are only drank by a shower of rugby and soccer ponces anyway. 

Anyway I'm sure Donal has already thought this one threw as he looks like a fella who drank gallons of the stuff when he was a young fella. Anyone know anything about challenge matchs for Cavan Seniors? Thanks!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on November 17, 2006, 03:21:17 PM
Heard nothing abiut challenge matches cavancola, alls I know is that there's a panel of about 40 in training on the weights with Keogan when he's not off hunting in Fermanagh.

cavan4ever, that's how the legend goes...apparently Brussels was aghast when it was appointed supreme guardian of the small intestines of our fair nation, and probed a bottle of our fine beverage to see how it stacked up in the health and safety stakes. It turned out to have more Es than a rave in Amsterdam and if taken in sufficient quantity, most likely produced the same effect.

Sad was its passing. I was weaned on that stuff. Mothers of hyperactive Cavan children heaved a sigh of relief when it disappeared from the shelves and little Johnny was belatedly and reluctantly peeled off the sitting room chandelier in something approaching a mood of calm. Sigh, different era, great times... ;D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on November 17, 2006, 03:28:28 PM
Cavan Cola never did us any harm. If the youth of today had of been brought up on it there mightn't be as much drugs and teenage pregnancy's in our once great county ;)



Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Rossi on November 17, 2006, 05:04:19 PM
Ah!! Cavan Cola the nectar of the Gods.As maniac says different era .....great times.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on November 17, 2006, 06:33:27 PM
I know a publican that keeps a vintage bottle of Cavan Cola under the counter beside the potcheen for special occassions. This same publican told me he seen Eddie Reilly swiging out of a bottle of it one night - Good job Brussels put an end to it or we'd have a bunch of wild long hair mad men running around the county. Eddie is a lesson to us all.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on November 17, 2006, 09:18:12 PM
Just carrying on from the old board where AC39 was having another go at Keogan for bringing John McGinn on board as team co-ordinater.  Behind the times you are AC39(as you suggested yourself) as Eamon Coleman appointed Mickey Reilly as team 'liaison officer' 3 years ago when he took over.  Don't know if he continued this role in McElklennons time though. 

McGinn imo is an excellent administrator and will do a good job.  Keogans responsibility is to create a successful Cavan team and issues such as players expenses etc shouldn't be taking up his time.


Friday night and we should all be in a relaxed mood but I'll make an exception for the above pile...............wasn't having a go at Keogan, although so many people have been I don't blame you for getting confused. I was having a go at the County Board for going from an cart before horse management team to a managment by committee system (all care, no responsibility, loads of expense). Of other recent inter county appointments did we get the full monty of backup disclosed-in Wickla who is Micko's trainer, driver, personal fitness guru, selectors and petty cash clerk? I don't know, nobody on this board knows and most of the people in Wickla neither know nor care, wonder why. I agree with you that this bloke will be doing work that Keogan should not be doing. Can you tell me why the hell it is necessary to announce on national media with a bit of fanfare who the identity of our new petty cash clerk is?

So don't worry folks, we are in safe hands-ranked 26th in Ireland, all club champions fucked out of Ulster round one but look, our new clerical appointment to make sure the players expenses get paid. The only way is up. Seriously though, best of luck to Donal and his team of advisers, gurus, and indeed players


On much happier topics, Cavan Cola-welcome on board, I can only echo the sentiments of all posters to date. The most unique combination of bottled Guinness laced generously with highly concentrated cough mixture. I reckon the dentists of Cavan were coining it on many a youngster reared on a staple diet of Cavan Cola and liqurice allsorts. I agree that the decline in all social, moral and physiological standards that have been noted over the past 20 years can be traced back to the demise of Cavan Cola. Most importantly, I believe that the sad decline of our inter county team is directly linked to it's disappearance. Try telling any young fella under the age of 21 that there was a time when Cavan football was comprised of something other than a bunch of skittery arsed runts with short hair. Mad eddie would have been in his element back in the early 70's with Enda Mcgowan, Pat Tinnelly, Frankie Dolan, Texas Brady, Sean Leddy (RIP) and Pat Mcgill (ouch). Christ it makes the eyes water, all reared on the stuff and would eat Gaynors entrails on the 11 O clock break.

Great memories indeed.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Blue06 on November 19, 2006, 11:41:09 PM
Ok AC39, I felt you were having another unwarranted attack on Keogan,(at least wait until the matches start).  You are correct this appointment didn't need any media attention.

Also welcome to CavanCola.  Used to love the stuff.  Never knew that Brussels banned it.  Just thought it stopped when CMW closed their own production.   
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on November 20, 2006, 11:32:25 AM
The Brussels rumour was the one I heard anyway. But sure maybe it just went out of production. But the nasty bureaucrats story is much more poignant so I'm sticking with that one.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on November 20, 2006, 02:55:00 PM
Ballinagh beat Gowna in the ACFL Division 1 final 2-08 to 0-08 in a bit of a suprise...
Castlerahan beat Lurgan in a thriller in the Under 21 Division One semi final 3-09 to 2-10
Drumalee beat ourselves 3-08 to 0-13 in a thriller After Extra Time in the Div Two Semi...That hurts big time  :'(
Shercock beat Lavey in the other Div Two semi final.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: CavanCola on November 20, 2006, 03:09:54 PM

BH Man, very interesting that the U21 games over the weekend were of a high standard.
Could be that there is more talent right under Keoghan's nose than he thinks... maybe he's wasting his time building up a team of high Profile short-term stars when he is sitting on a wealth of uptapped talent already and U21 level. I saw alot of half that Lurgan team playing over the summer. There are at leat 2/3 of that team that should be given a go with the county.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on November 20, 2006, 03:29:09 PM
The Lurgan and Castlerahan Under 21 teams are both supremely talented alright CavanCola and i would consider ourselves and Drumalee to be something similar albeit probably not just as good....Its too soon for alot of them to be thrown into County Senior action though...I think we will just ahve to stick with out "stars" for a year or two yet...and phase in the young lads slowly.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: CavanCola on November 20, 2006, 04:04:35 PM
Immmm take your point BH man but then if you look at say the meath team of 1996...they had Mark O'Reilly, Darren Fay, Paddy Reynolds, Graham Geraghty, Barry Callaghan, Trevor Giles, Ollie Murphy... All were on the All Ireland winning team that year and would have been on the team that Cavan U21's beat after a replay in Roscommon in 1996... if I remember right! So there is arguments for putting these guys in and blooding them young and mix them with the best of the experienced generation.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Rossi on November 20, 2006, 05:24:17 PM
Cavan tried to intergrate the U 21's of 88 into the senior panel,and what happened,it took another 7 years to win an ulster championship match.Likewise the U21's of 96 granted the won the Ulster Championship in 97 but that was it.20 years on after having two teams in the U21 all Ireland finals and where are we,1 Ulster Title,surely there was potential in both these sets of players to do much better?Were they blodded too young,maybe maye not there egos just might have being the problem.

Back to the weekend games, how many of the top U21's playing at the weekend are eligible to play for the county U21's next year?Went to the Bhaise D'lee game and although it was a pretty good game , the only player to really stand out was Ray Cullivan.He was still a minor this year but has played a lot of football including a run out with the county seniors, where will he be in 5-6 years time? burnt out ? riddle with injuries? hope not.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on November 20, 2006, 05:35:17 PM
It makes no sense having the Under 21 competition in November...It should be played bfore the Under 21 county team play so as to throw up a few players...but thats another story....
Rossi...
Ray Cullivan has played a lot of football..... club,County,Sigerson with the college now and International rules,But if theres one young player thats physically able to handle it all..It is Cullivan......
If you look at some of the great young hopes we had...
John Tierney...didnt look after himself physically
Cian Mackey...physically very light and needed to be bulked up
Ronan Flanagan....same as Mackey
I think Cullivan much like Nicholas Walsh has done has a better chance of avoiding burnout because of his physical conditioning
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on November 20, 2006, 05:38:39 PM
also Rossi
Some players at the game who will be in contention for the County under 21's next year include...
for Bhaise...
Sean McCormack who done a man marking job on Darragh Gaffney
Fergal Slowey
Ray Cullivan
and Ali Pickett
for Drumalee
Enda McCormick
I do believe Gerard Reily is underage aswell
Darragh Gaffney
amongst others...
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on November 20, 2006, 05:56:30 PM
Our U21 team for next year has an outstanding chance in Ulster if they can deal with Down I think, although alot of other teams will be strong as well I'd say, Fermanagh's Enniskillen college always do quite well in McRory for instance. U21 is where I'm really pinning my hopes for 2007.

It's absolutely vital that this U21 team is prepared to the absolute highest standard to make sure the near misses and moral victories of previous years don't perpetuate themselves for eternity - we might never have as talented a collection of U21s in the county again. Combine Keogan's minors with last year's U18 outfit, add in a few lads who always blossom after minor and it could be an oustanding team. I just hope bad management, bad preparation or just sheer bad luck doesn't put paid to our chances, it could either set up the seniors for years or alternatively, set them back an age.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on November 20, 2006, 08:11:32 PM
Always thought myself that Under 21 was a potential area for us, a small number of the nordie production line from Minor level seem to get lost along the way. Big problem is that Ulster is, as ever, seriously bloody competitive at the moment. Now I know Maniac is very impressed by the Minor team of last year-but look at what you have in Ulster coming through from that year alone. Down are All Ireland Champs. As I recall in the Ulster Championship minor of last year they ambushed Tyrone in injury time in the first round, beat us after a replay and lost to Armagh in an Ulster Final in Croker. As is typical with that minor team of ours it was a case of blood em young-can think of at least two under 16's who were mainstays of that team, one of whom is now doing the business with Celtic, the other being Barry Waters if I'm not mistaken.

In short, if we are to be competitive at Under 21 level next year I reckon we need:
Solid core of lads (at least 10) who are at their last year at under 21 level; and
The age old Cavan problem (well one of them anyway) four or five lads who can mix strength, aggression and football ability-seems ot be a tall order-young Clark from Kingscourt could be one of them if he is available.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on November 21, 2006, 11:50:56 AM
He picked up a significant thug element when he was in Australia in my humble opinion.

I remember being gutted when he went to Oz such was the reputation he had garnered for himself and the corresponding hopes we had for him being a top class partner for a then still-dangerous Dermot McCabe in midfield.

I watched him play underage for the Gaels and he was incredibly classy. Never had much pace and is even slower now  but seemed to have the intelligence for this not to matter - good positional sense and an ability to do things in a measured, methodical way - almost casual but not quite - were what set him apart. He had a good catch, physical strength and a nice accurate kick pass.

Then he got a litany of injuries in Oz and since he's come back only seems to want to spoil and niggle. I think the Aussie hard man culture got to him and now he seems to go looking for fights/intimidation. It's a shame because he's still young enough to make an impact with his strength and if he could channel the aggression more legitimately he could be good for us. I saw him kick about three or four massive points for the Gaels against Castlerahan all from play in this year's SFC and thought to myself what a shame it is he never seems able to do that for the county.

As for the U21s, keep the faith anglocelt39! It's hard to be positive but it's too easy to be negative and fear the worst all the time. This mindset hasn't helped the players in recent years either. We all have to start believing in ourselves at some point or else throw the hat at it to hell and give up. I think we have every bit as good a footballer at this age group for 2007 as any other Ulster county, fact. Down couldn't believe they beat that minor team a few years ago (told our lads as much leaving the field) and that was the toughest game they got all year (apart from the loss to Armagh which was basically a blip against a vastly inferior side).
As on that day, and lamentably, too too many days in the last five years, our county underage sides have been beaten for the lack of something fundamental between their two ears and not necessarily something lacking in their boots.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on November 21, 2006, 10:16:38 PM
Oh sigh, here I go again Maniac. I know we both have the interests of Cavan football at heart. You reckon I'm too negative and yoiu are probably right, I reckon you are too optimistic and I am wrong, but we need to be realistic. For all the talking up we have done on our underage sides over the last several years the fact is we have won nothing, nor have we come near to winning anything. Now this reflects a lack of belief and some bad luck, unfortunately it also reflects something more fundamental at work-player development, club scene, backup facilities etc. etc. In short we ain't good enough and have  not been for several years. We congratulate ourselves on getting our set up to the level that other Ulster Counties were at four or five years ago and still there is no give-if we want to change this setup we have to start to admit that we need fundamental change and act accordingly-convince ourselves that it's all down to bad luck and belief and we go further backwards.

Anyway here's hoping. Like the first cuckoo of spring I am waiting in anticipation of the first pronouncement that next years minors are the ones to break the drought. We are nothing if not optimistic.

On a separate topic-as somebody with strong Aussie connections I read with interest the comments on the compromise rules debacle. Interesting that the weekend past had it's usual session of shenanigans in the GAA covering Casement and Wicklow (or was it Carlow), hear the Drumalee and Ballyhaise lads got into the spirit of things as well. As they RTE presenter said monday monring "and not an Australian in sight"-how dare that bastard Sheedy call us a bunch of con men
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on November 22, 2006, 12:43:16 PM
Yeah it's hypocrisy alright but it still doesn't mean we started it off in that second test. The Aussies had a premeditated agenda of violence, everyone knew it, they announced it in the paper even, our lads were determined to fight back if it happened - cue Armageddon. Sheedy calling us conmen while sniggering up his shirt sleeves and spinning his risible approach to the game by pinning the blame on us, that's the real disgrace.

If the debate is about IR violence there's only one to blame...Aussies.

If it's about violence in our native codes and poor attempts to clean it up, the AFL game is way ahead of ours.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: The Bottom Brick on November 22, 2006, 01:54:46 PM
Ah lads give it up on the violence and the International Rules!

Any word on new fellas into the Cavan panel? I hear Larry and McCabe are still there, Corr from Denn is in too. Martin Reily and Donal Thomas from Killygaryy. Seanie Smith from Mulahoran. Shane Sheridan from Lacken. Any others?

They're training in Navan tonight apparently.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on November 22, 2006, 03:43:45 PM
I've heard nothing save for Gallagher turning up and running rings round the lot of them. Most of the old heads are back in supplemented by a gang of new lads. I think there's a McCabe lad from Crosserlough in there, a former minor.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on November 22, 2006, 07:19:23 PM
Declan McCabe from crosserlough was shaping well in the McKenna cup earlier this year,then seemed to vanish.   :-\
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Blue06 on November 24, 2006, 03:23:18 PM
The 2007 league fixtures are being finalised this weekend.  As its year 2 of a 2 year cycle we will have 3 home and 4 away games this coming year.

Away games v Waterford, Antrim, Tipperary & either Meath/Wexford.
Home games v Sligo, Wicklow & either Meath/Wexford.

I hope we get Meath at home, play it on a Sat. night under the lights.

2007 McKenna Cup games courtesy on hoganstand

Jan 7th away to Derry
Jan 14th home to Queens
Jan 21st home to Tyrone



Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on November 24, 2006, 03:28:22 PM
Away trips to waterford,Antrim and Tipperary... f**k...
indeed Wexford and Meath will be our two biggest challengers for promotion id say.
Meath game under floodlights at home would have a great atmosphere as you said Blue06....
knowing our luck though we will get Meath in Navan again though.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on November 24, 2006, 03:47:56 PM
Don't overlook the value of securing Wicklow at home. They'll have come up a long way by then under Micko and will be seriously in the mix in this division, especially in the very early rounds of the league when bigger teams are getting warmed up. They'll be flying fit and rearing to go from the off. With things as bad as they are with us, you wouldn't be surprised if they turned us over. Although hopefully I'm being pessimistic on the side of caution there... ;)

Also, it'll be a serious grudge match away to our great rivals Waterford. :-[

Meath at home under lights would be sweet. Played them four/five times in league in my living memory, all but one of them has been in Navan so it's about time we got them back in Breffni.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on November 27, 2006, 03:47:12 PM
Just though id bring this back up to the top it was getting lonely on the 3rd page.  Has anyone any news on how the  county team is going in training???
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on November 27, 2006, 09:20:39 PM
Away trips to waterford,Antrim and Tipperary... f**k...
indeed Wexford and Meath will be our two biggest challengers for promotion id say.
Meath game under floodlights at home would have a great atmosphere as you said Blue06....
knowing our luck though we will get Meath in Navan again though


Hope your optimism is justified Ballyhaise Man. Antrim, Tipperary, Wexford, Meath and Wicla for starters won't be too worried about us. As for Waterford, I for one will be keeping the head well down in advance of that one. Hopefully you can rely on me for a report or two from some of the more remote southern outposts.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on November 27, 2006, 10:47:35 PM
I think we played Meath at home twice in the league in the last 5/6 years. I remember we beat them by one point cos someone threw a bottle at Sean Boylan that day. I also remember Prior from Swad blatently flattening Geraghty in front of the posts and the ref playing on in the last minute. We also hammered them by 10 points or so as well, I remember Mark Reilly getting sent off that day. Was that the year we made the league final??

I hope the league will be taken serious this year as in reality my only goal at senior level this year is to get promotion back to Div 1. A bonus would be beating Down and then putting Monaghan back in their box in the championship.

I was wondering if anyone knows, if we beat Down, where will the game against Monaghan be?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Blue06 on November 28, 2006, 07:32:19 AM
I was wondering if anyone knows, if we beat Down, where will the game against Monaghan be?

Not wanting to get ahead of ourselves but if we got through we would play Monaghan in Clones.
If Down beat us they'd have home advantage against Monaghan.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Blue06 on November 28, 2006, 02:00:56 PM
Allianz National Football League Div 2B
Round 1
03.02.2007 (Sat) @ 7.30pm
An Mhí v An Cabhán
04.02.2007 (Sun) @ 2.30pm
Cill Mhantáin v Aontroim
Tiobraid Árann v Sligeach
Port Láirge v Loch Garman

Round 2
10.02.2007 (Sat)   @ 7.30pm
Aontroim v An Mhí
An Cabhán  v Cill Mhantáin
11.02.2007 (Sun)  @ 1.30pm
Loch Garman v Tiobraid Árann
Sligeach v Port Láirge


Round 3
25.02.2007 (Sun)  @ 2.30pm
Port Láirge v Aontroim
Tiobraid Árann v An Cabhán
Sligeach v An Mhí
Cill Mhantáin v Loch Garman

Round 4
10.03.2007 (Sat)   @ 7.30pm
An Cabhán  v Sligeach
An Mhí v Tiobraid Árann
11.03.2007 (Sun)  @ 2.30pm
Aontroim v Loch Garman
Port Láirge v Cill Mhantáin

Round 5
24.03.2007 (Sat)   @ 3.30pm
Aontroim v An Cabhán
25.03.2007 (Sun)  @ 3.30pm
Cill Mhantáin v An Mhí
Loch Garman v Sligeach
Tiobraid Árann v Port Láirge

Round 6
31.03.2007 @ 7.30pm
An Mhí v Port Láirge
01.04.2007 @ 3.30pm
Sligeach v Aontroim
An Cabhán  v Loch Garman
Tiobraid Árann v Cill Mhantáin

Round 7
08.04.2007 @ 3.30pm
Port Láirge v An Cabhán
Loch Garman v An Mhí
Cill Mhantáin v Sligeach
Aontroim v Tiobraid Árann


Well we have ended up with 4 Saturday & 3 Sunday games.

3 under lights, 2 at home and 1 away to Meath.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on November 28, 2006, 02:56:14 PM
Having to travel to Meath - again - is disappointing but overallw e can be happy that we've got the other strong teams in the division all at home - Wexford, Sligo and what should be a plucky enough Wicklow.

Away to Tipp, Antrim and Waterford but if we're in any sort of shape at all, should be too difficult although Antrim might be interesting this year too.

Meath away to Sligo, Wexford, so it could be worse for us. Will be an intersting league with the placings dictating who ends up in the Timmy Morphine Cup.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on November 29, 2006, 01:06:17 PM
I hear Pearse McKenna is back on the Cavan panel, can anyone confirm? Encouraging news if so, he's no Jack O'Shea but has proven himself a very valuable and hard working memeber of the team in an area where we are always short on quality. Happy to have him back.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Blue06 on November 29, 2006, 01:14:41 PM

courtesy of Hoganstand

Reilly quits Cavan
29 November 2006


New Cavan manager Donal Keoghan must plan without the services of Peter Reilly in the coming season after the Knockbride clubman announced his retirement from the inter-county game.

Reilly, who won an Ulster championship medal in 1997, retired before, only to answer an SOS call last season after the squad was depleted by injury.

Encouragingly for Keoghan, all of the Breffni County's long-term absentees have returned to the fold, while midfielder Pierce McKenna – who opted out last year – is also back in harness.

Gerald Pierson (cruciate), Micheal Lyng (hernia), Nicholas Walsh (ankle) and Darren Rabbit (cruciate) are all back in training.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Rossi on November 29, 2006, 02:09:58 PM
Also from Hogan Stand


Cavan football star Micheal Lyng has spoken of his near-death experience following a routine hernia operation last year.

Lyng had surgery to have a double hernia rectified, but after being released from hospital, he began to feel unwell and had to be rushed back in for emergency surgery which he claims saved his life.

"I was close to dying when I was in hospital – they reckon I was about a day away if they hadn't operated," the 21-year-old revealed.

"I came home after the hernia operation and started getting sick the day after – there was complications.

"Football wasn't that important when I was sick. I lost about two stone in weight. I was knocked for six – I didn't go back to college that year.

"I didn't train or do anything for about five months because I had 20 stitches down the middle of my stomach and that took ages to heal. I was scared to go back at the beginning but now I can't wait to get back in action," he added.

The Cavan Gaels attacker hopes to make his comeback with DIT in the Sigerson Cup in the New Year.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on November 29, 2006, 03:28:03 PM
Mckenna is back that's strange considering me played no more than 3-4 club games last year.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on November 29, 2006, 06:04:48 PM
Good stuff to have McKenna back in there....
The story on Lyng nearly dying was around the county months ago...It was pretty serious alright.
I wonder what are the odds of us making the first round of the championship with all of the following...
McCabe
Larry
Pierson
Rabbite
Lyng
Walshe
all fit?
i cant remember the last time we have eneterd the championship with a fully fit squad...
Oh wait i can... 1997   ;)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: liihb on November 29, 2006, 06:10:44 PM
Whats the latest on the Gallagher saga? Has his transfer gone through?
Just wondering due to the repercussions for Brigids...
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on November 29, 2006, 06:22:22 PM
havent heard anything about the Gallagher situation to be honest mate..
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on November 29, 2006, 09:58:18 PM
Greetings from your resident realist/cum pessimist. Well nothing like a few months of inaction to get our optimism up and running again. Promotion prospects are being discussed and the prosprect of beating Down in Prelim round of championship. Hope to f**k we are right. Just by way of reminder-last year in the league we beat Wicklow and Antrim by a pt(Tipp as well??), lost to Sligo and, ahem, Waterfordl, well beaten by Louth as well. We'll need to do a fair bit of improving to be in the promotion race this time around.

Best wishes to Peter Reilly and good to see McKenna back. We seemed to be all agreed a few months ago that the boys of 97 (with exception of Forde) had had their day, looks like a few are still hanging around...............Interesting to see how Mckenna and McCabe get on, I've made my views known before on this and will leave it at that. Hope to god there are one or two breakthroughs from fellas on the fringes.

In my opinion, young Flanagan has to be ready now-Sigerson Cup medal from last year. Ditto Sean Brady who is holding down a fair spot with a good UCD team. Hope to jasus Keogan is now laying siege to Trevor Crowe's door.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on November 29, 2006, 10:55:06 PM
If I was Keogan, I'd camp outside his door and haunt the guy until he gives in.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: The Bottom Brick on November 30, 2006, 11:31:32 AM
I'm sorry to say lads there's more chance of Keoghan himself lining out than there is of Crowe going back in...
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: CavanCola on November 30, 2006, 12:14:55 PM
See some dudes on the Hogan Stand proposing possible teams. They may know something ???.. it seems like Mccabe is being put in Fullforward. Is Keoghan thinking of making McCabe into a "Donaghy" style target man perhaps? Anyway he was always very effective when used in this position before. Good to see Mckenna back. We could have done with him earlier in the year.

The only thing I'd be worried about is that we may be recycling alot of what we've seen already and there is no longterm plan.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on November 30, 2006, 03:12:40 PM
anglocelt39 - We didn't lose to Sligo last year, we beat them farily well in Sligo. The league last year was a tough battle for us since we had so many players out and after doing all the hard bits (beating Sligo and Westmeath away) we took our eye of the ball through some classic over confidence and blew it all against Waterford. It is also worth remembering that we lost to Louth in a game we should have won by 6 points or so too. If we had to have beaten waterford we would be all saying that we had a fairly decent run in the league with half a team. There is a fine line between success and failure! I expect a better show this year if we can get some of our players fit and assuming that keoghan isn't as big a clown as most of us reckon. I also believe it is achievable for Cavan to beat Down in Breffni and Beat Monaghan in Clones if we prepare properly. If we don't believe that then we might as well not bother playing them. For me our goals for the year at senior level should be a semi final place in Ulster and promotion to Div 1 in league.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on November 30, 2006, 03:40:44 PM
I agree with them goals Myles...
i would also add in win at least one qualifier aswell.... to come out of the season with more wins 3 than defeats 2 in the championship would be a success for me as well as promotion to Division One B.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on November 30, 2006, 03:45:35 PM
Along with at least reaching an Ulster U21 final and giving it a right rattle, I'm with mylestheslasher. If you hang-doggedly accept that your fate is to achieve nothing then that's exactly what you'll achieve. I know what anglocelt39 will think of that but sure shoot for the stars and land on the moon or whatever, is what I think. ;D

It's an awful shame about Crowe. f**king tank of a man. I think he agreed to join the county panel for a year as part of an agreement to help his club who were in severe disciplinary bother with the county board at the time. That's what was being said anyway, believe what you will.

McCabe's remaining contributions to Cavan will all come at 14 I think, he just doesn't have it around the middle any more unless he finds a new reserve of fitness or something and stays injury free. But we'll have to rob Peter to pay Paul in midfield at various times I'd say and move him back out as we won't have a good enough midfield in big games even with McKenna in there. I also wouldn't overstate McCabe's ability at 14, he destroyed Down there a few years ago and caused Derry a few flutters in Casement a few years previously, but has otherwise been a fairly blunt weapon on the edge of the square. His distribution out the field can be an asset too. Ho hum, swings and roundabouts.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Blue06 on November 30, 2006, 03:46:38 PM
Myles, agree with you on our expectations for next years championship though I would have an Ulster SF spot as a minimum target.
The league though is changing next year to Div 1-4 .  A top 2 finish this year will  have us in Div 2, places 3-4 in Div 3 and a bottom 4 place means Div 4 and also entry into the Tommy Murphy Cup.  Teams who finish up in Div 4 will not be allowed enter the AI Qualifiers (unless they reach the provincial final).
Therefore I see this years league being fairly competitive and not a great opportunity to experiment.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Blue06 on November 30, 2006, 03:57:27 PM
Re Crowe, I heard that when he was minor he refused to play for the county, not too sure of the full story, something like he wasn't too happy with a suspension he received from the CB at the time.  Bottom brick appears to have an inside line here, maybe he can clarify it or rubbish it.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: The Bottom Brick on November 30, 2006, 04:05:08 PM
That's the first Ive heard of that.

I know that since around 99 they were plaguing him to come in, Mickey Reilly was constantly calling but Trevor was toof ond of the beer!

He said he'd give it everything for a year, he did and cavan let Armagh off the rack and Derry.

The man gets up at five every morning and just built a house, he's getting married next year, there is zero chance of him going back it's a pity to say
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on November 30, 2006, 08:18:05 PM
You know Maniac you're dead right, i've just reviewed the situation and don't know why I get this sense of utter fatalistic pessimism that I like to think of as realism in my misguided way. So I've just reviewed the situation and decided that on the basis of our current ranking at number 26 in senior football, our shedload of underage titles over the past several years, the outstanding performances of our clubs in Ulster and our dynamic, far seeing County board that, shag it, anything less than an Ulster Clean sweep at Minor, Under 21 and Senior level next year will be abject failure. And take it from me, the 2007 minors will be the best we've EVER produced, bar none.

Seriously, can we get promotion from Division 2 and win two games in Ulster-with injury luck, application to detail at training and in games-maybe. i would be delighted to achieve those ends after last year. I would be even happier if we won a few games at minor and under 21 level, without the foundations the house is shagged.

The more I read about this lad Crowe the more of a mysterious legend he becomes. One of our fellow posters once insinuated on another thread that he once sorted out a few opposing supporters at a club match for abusing him after a sending off. pretty impressive.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on November 30, 2006, 08:50:22 PM
Indeed AC
Mr Crowe hopped over the fence and replied to the fans comments with his own form of Justice  :D
Unless you're a mightily hard bastard...Trevor Crowe wouldnt be a man you would want to mess with.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on November 30, 2006, 11:24:49 PM
Quote from: anglocelt39 on November 30, 2006, 08:18:05 PM
You know Maniac you're dead right, i've just reviewed the situation and don't know why I get this sense of utter fatalistic pessimism that I like to think of as realism in my misguided way. So I've just reviewed the situation and decided that on the basis of our current ranking at number 26 in senior football, our shedload of underage titles over the past several years, the outstanding performances of our clubs in Ulster and our dynamic, far seeing County board that, shag it, anything less than an Ulster Clean sweep at Minor, Under 21 and Senior level next year will be abject failure. And take it from me, the 2007 minors will be the best we've EVER produced, bar none.

You say tom-ay-toes, I say tomatoes. I knew you'd bite though... ;D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on December 01, 2006, 08:47:06 AM
Maniac, you're out of your time zone man. Yes, it can be a tough job constantly pointing out the elephant in the drawing room to the short sigthed, but sure somebody has to do it.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Rossi on December 01, 2006, 03:51:53 PM

Quote from: anglocelt39 on November 30, 2006, 08:18:05 PM
The more I read about this lad Crowe the more of a mysterious legend he becomes. One of our fellow posters once insinuated on another thread that he once sorted out a few opposing supporters at a club match for abusing him after a sending off. pretty impressive.

Never actually heard of Trevor doing that, but was in Breffni  the day that Finbarr Crowe of Drung ran up to the top of the stand to sort out a few Drumalee lads.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on December 01, 2006, 03:54:52 PM
Finbar Crowe
Another tank of a man...and outstanding footballer who never figured much for the County unfortunately...
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on December 01, 2006, 04:04:34 PM
You described yourtself a page back as a pessimist/realist, so you clearly know quite well the fine line between either.

On the realism side of things , I share alot of your misgivings about our county board, current players, manager, history of underachievement, but it's after that where we diverge. Beyond there you seemingly see no reason for hope and vigilante-style smack down anyone who disagrees. It's just too easy to be cynical and wallow in self-fulfilling prophecies my friend, and it's this attitude that part-explains why those same underage teams you get so upset about never fulfilled their potential. When the fat is in the fire, no Cavan team believes in itself enough because we come from a county full of world-weary wise men who always know better and where the culture is "ah we were unlucky." We simply accept what's ingrained in us to think is our fate and cry when we lose by a point to an Ulster team in extra time because we haven't the balls to finish the job ourselves or are too content with the moral victory. One man changed it all temporarily and that was Martin McHugh and look what he was able to do.

It's up to you what your view is on life, football and so on, I can live and live let live with everyone but nothing will shake me from the view that there ARE always reasons to be positive about Cavan football and most fundamentally, if everyone involved simply adopts a grumble-groan woe-is-us approach then we're going to stay mired precisely where we are right now. None of which is to say that if we're all sunny-side-of-the street positive all the time, the opposite results will accrue, but put it this way - which one of the two offers you some hope of self-betterment, and which offers you none at all?

Didn't mean this to ramble on as much but you seem to have a bee in your bonnet over it - I was only slagging you earlier on you know. I have no problem with your view as long as you don't fight me to make me adapt it - I'm not doing that to you after all.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: The TopKat on December 01, 2006, 06:51:43 PM
Hello, new poster on the board...have been an avid reader for a while and decided to get involved.  Here is what my Cavan team would be for the Down match in May 2007!
1. James Reilly ( I reckon he will make himself available in early 2007)
2. Michael Hannon (great man marker)
3. Darren Rabbitte (potentially brilliant full back, does simple things right)
4. Keith Fannin (tight corner back)
5. Paul Brady (pure athlete)
6. Anthony Forde (let him sit back and sweep up)
7. Anthony Gaynor (big hits and endless running)
8. Pierce McKenna (good fielder)
9. Nicholas Walsh (stop a good man playing)
10. Ronan Flanagan (unbelievable potential, workhorse)
11. Micky Lyng (if fit will  eventually win an all-star)
12. Rory Gallagher (score getter)
13. Geard Pierson (due an injury free run to show his skills)
14. Eddie Reilly (passion and shows for every ball)
15. Sean Johnston (type of forward that every county needs, was good this year will be even better next year)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on December 01, 2006, 07:40:40 PM
Quote from: The TopKat on December 01, 2006, 06:51:43 PM
Hello, new poster on the board...have been an avid reader for a while and decided to get involved.  Here is what my Cavan team would be for the Down match in May 2007!
1. James Reilly ( I reckon he will make himself available in early 2007)
2. Michael Hannon (great man marker)
3. Darren Rabbitte (potentially brilliant full back, does simple things right)
4. Keith Fannin (tight corner back)
5. Paul Brady (pure athlete)
6. Anthony Forde (let him sit back and sweep up)
7. Anthony Gaynor (big hits and endless running)
8. Pierce McKenna (good fielder)
9. Nicholas Walsh (stop a good man playing)
10. Ronan Flanagan (unbelievable potential, workhorse)
11. Micky Lyng (if fit will  eventually win an all-star)
12. Rory Gallagher (score getter)
13. Geard Pierson (due an injury free run to show his skills)
14. Eddie Reilly (passion and shows for every ball)
15. Sean Johnston (type of forward that every county needs, was good this year will be even better next year)

Welcome to the board Top Kat...good to have more Cavan Posters on here.
Agree mostly with your team except for possibely Flanagan....whom i think is a brilliant footballer but i
would think Sean Brady or Ray Cullivan might bring a bit more ball winning ability in the half forward line...under Reilys massive kickouts.....
Agree with everywhere else...
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on December 01, 2006, 10:00:08 PM
You say tom-ay-toes, I say tomatoes. I knew you'd bite though...


Bejasus Maniac never thought you'd take that one hook, line and sinker-reminds me of that shagging brother in law of mine who arrived down from Dublin many years ago and used to leave the night line out in the Borora river-feck off for a few hours and guess what you have on the end next morning. I think at this stage we should probably communicate directly and stop giving the rest of this thread a pain in the hole. In fairness we both want the same our optimism levels are all that differ. I could go on but you're tired hearing it. On a serious note for a moment, what do you think of McKenna's return to the panel, given that the bould Dermot is still around. Now if Donal can manage that one I take the hat off.

Also, welcome to our new poster-as I said earlier I reckon Flanagan and Sean Brady have to be ready now, on the basis of college performances if nothing else. Might it be expecting a bit much of Lyng to be back in action next year given what the poor hoor has been through? Hope not but..............
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on December 04, 2006, 12:10:55 PM
County Board Proposals

Task Force Proposals
Task Force Proposals

PROPOSALS FOR ALL COMPETITIONS

U-12 League:
4 Divisions
2 x 10 Teams + 2 x 9 Teams (Seeding of teams to be done by
Bord na nÓg )

U-14 League:
4 Divisions
2 x 10 Teams + 2 x 9 Teams (Seeding of teams to be done by
Bord na nÓg )
All games to take place on full size playing area
U-14 Championship to stay in its present format, but to start a couple of weeks earlier.

U-15
Óg Sport:
7-a-side competition with full participation from all 38 clubs who field underage teams. (Multiple entries will be accepted from clubs). Panel of 10 for each team.

U-16 League:
4 Divisions, more teams to play in Divisions 1 & 2
(Seeding of teams to be done by Youth Board)
Remove 11 a side games if possible

U-16 Championship:
Division 1 U-16 Championship
Division 2 U-16 Championship
Division 3 U-16 Shield (Remove this competition if possible)

Amalgamations to be allowed into U-16 Championship
Amalgamations to be decided at Youth Board Level

Minor League:
More teams to play in Division 1 & 2

Minor Championship:
Division 1 Minor Championship to include amalgamations
Division 2 Minor Competition to include all other teams,
Amalgamations to be decided at Youth Board Level

U-20 Championship:
U-20 Championship to replace U-21 Championship in 2007

All
County
Football Leagues:
ACFL to comprise of 6 Divisions (1-6), Divisions 4, 5 & 6 would be the current reserve teams. Promotion and relegation through each of the divisions. The top two teams in each division to play in league final. Bottom two teams relegated in Divisions 1 & 2. One team relegated in Division 3, 4 & 5. One team promoted in Divisions 4, 5 & 6. 14 teams to play in divisions 1, 2 & 3 as per 2006 season.

Championship Football:
Senior, Intermediate & Junior Championships to return to a knockout basis with a backdoor system for the first round losers.

Junior B, C & D Competitions to be run in place of Reserve Championships

Winners of Junior B to be promoted to Junior Championship proper
Winners of Junior C to be promoted to Junior B Championship
Winners of Junior D to be promoted to Junior C Championship

In an ideal scenario there would be 16 teams in the Senior , Intermediate & Junior Championships. There may need to be promotion to these competitions for a number of years without relegation

Good stuff there...seems like the CB arent totally up their own arses afterall and can actually do good work.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: lynchbhoy on December 04, 2006, 12:44:53 PM
Quote from: The TopKat on December 01, 2006, 06:51:43 PM
Hello, new poster on the board...have been an avid reader for a while and decided to get involved.  Here is what my Cavan team would be for the Down match in May 2007!
1. James Reilly ( I reckon he will make himself available in early 2007)
2. Michael Hannon (great man marker)
3. Darren Rabbitte (potentially brilliant full back, does simple things right)
4. Keith Fannin (tight corner back)
5. Paul Brady (pure athlete)
6. Anthony Forde (let him sit back and sweep up)
7. Anthony Gaynor (big hits and endless running)
8. Pierce McKenna (good fielder)
9. Nicholas Walsh (stop a good man playing)
10. Ronan Flanagan (unbelievable potential, workhorse)
11. Micky Lyng (if fit will  eventually win an all-star)
12. Rory Gallagher (score getter)
13. Geard Pierson (due an injury free run to show his skills)
14. Eddie Reilly (passion and shows for every ball)
15. Sean Johnston (type of forward that every county needs, was good this year will be even better next year)

Dont know some of these too well
but given Cavans recent history of midfield woes, maybe a three man midfield would help out a lot....
Has Rory Gallagher actually committed though...



also - Gaynor is THE CHB...Cavan should be building a team around him.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on December 04, 2006, 01:17:11 PM
I hear a rumour we played Laois in a challenge over the weekend and got hammered. Anyone have any info on that like what team started?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on December 04, 2006, 01:22:00 PM
Nope.... got told by a Club collegue on Bebo that we got trounced around 4-11 to 0-09 in stradbally......
Reading the Laois Hoganstand board(actual decent conversation amazingly...i think its only the cavan hoganstandheads that are idiots)
It was said Cavan had a much Bigger all round physical team and hit very hard but were totally outclassed....also said that Laois are training 5 nights a week already its either 3 nights of weights and 2 nights of cardio or the other way round,...so id say they were much fitter than us.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: The Bottom Brick on December 04, 2006, 03:38:25 PM
I heard Cavan were training 5 nights a week as well?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on December 04, 2006, 03:46:56 PM
yeah i think there at it 5 nights a week aswell but they need it cos they were way behind the other teams last year fitness wise.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: The Bottom Brick on December 04, 2006, 03:49:06 PM
Definitely. The most unfit team I saw in the football championship last year. Terrible indictment of McElkennon really.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on December 04, 2006, 04:02:12 PM
what i heard was 3 organised nights a week... and players encouraged to do hit the gym or roads etc two-three other nights themselves(ala Tyrone style system)...This being Cavan though,the other 2/3 nights are probably used for drinking!!!
But i could be mistaken...maybe they are at it 5 nights a week.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on December 04, 2006, 04:04:36 PM
is jason reilly still on the panel ??
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on December 04, 2006, 04:06:02 PM
From what ive been told...
Everyone is in there bar Peter Reily who retired... and Podge and Miller who have opted out.
so Jason is yep.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on December 04, 2006, 04:10:51 PM
podge will b a big miss but u couldn't blame the lad for what he has gone through the last while..  Miller didn't opt out he told D.K he couldn't commit to training on a saturday until after xmas cos of personal reasons and was told he wasn't wanted if he wasn't going to give it 100%. 
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on December 04, 2006, 04:16:09 PM
I wouldnt mind that...
Miller will be in goals come the championship......
Although Flanagan of Cuchullains is an able understudy.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on December 04, 2006, 04:21:40 PM
I take it u mean Anderson of Cuchullains.  i think the lacken keeper is on the panel now aswell.  I doubt if miller will be back .
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on December 04, 2006, 04:42:43 PM
Quote from: cavan4ever on December 04, 2006, 04:21:40 PM
I take it u mean Anderson of Cuchullains.  i think the lacken keeper is on the panel now aswell.  I doubt if miller will be back .

ahh ANDERSON damnit i always mix up his name and that of the small Cuchullains cornerback Colm Flanagan.....
Shane Sheridan the Lacken keeper is in as you said...dont know much about him and havent seen him play so cant really comment on him.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on December 04, 2006, 05:17:15 PM
Miller will be a miss alright but there were signs his heart wasn't in it last year after his Allstar perfromances the year previously. What's encouraging though is that DK told him to hit the road if he couldn't give it 100%. McElkennon would have accommodated him.

Bit of a tanking in Laois by all accounts - does anyone know what the team was? I took a look at the Laois site but it made my eyes bleed...

What happened with Podge? Was there a family bereavement? Shame he can't come back in, a good defender.

ac39 - I'd imagine Dermo will still be giving lip to all comers, not just McKenna. Dermo's an equal opportunities harrassment officer, he leaves nobody out generally. I expect McKenna is ready for it and is thick-skinned enough at this stage.

As for Flanagan, I'd say he's getting enough football already, he'll still be college and U21 and senior for his club and already has had a few injuries I think. He's a bit slight yet too, I'd have him as a sub but Sean Brady is big enough and experienced enough to hold his own now. He's not an intercounty midfielder though he has more to offer making sniping passes from the half-forward line and getting on the end of attacks.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on December 04, 2006, 05:42:09 PM
Some of you guys are pretty much against giving some of our young Starlets,Flanagan,Mackey,Cullivan etc much playing time this year as alot think they are too young...
The question i ask is what age do you think these players will ready for County Senior football then, 20/ 21?
The way Sean Brady has played this year for UCD and Castlerahan,leaves no doubt in my mind that his time for the county has come...But not at midfield in my opinion...Wing forward.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on December 04, 2006, 09:41:32 PM
ac39 - I'd imagine Dermo will still be giving lip to all comers, not just McKenna. Dermo's an equal opportunities harrassment officer, he leaves nobody out generally. I expect McKenna is ready for it and is thick-skinned enough at this stage.

Nice one. Didn't I hear on this board some time ago that Dermo reserved special affection for Pierce, who in turn became reciprocal as he felt a bit more established and got a kind of pissed off with the stick. Early days at this stage, the first test for the new team management will come when it gets around to naming a panel for the league.

Few people noting that Cavan had a "bigger" team out than Laois. Think back to last years fixture against Down and a few of our stalwarts were looking a lot bigger than I had seen them in some time, not in the positive sporting sense of the word unfortunately. Mind you, if there are a few big men who can play a bit of footy brought into the panel, would be most welcome.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: The Bottom Brick on December 05, 2006, 02:00:55 PM
OK everyone fit, well and available come championship, here's my best team

1 Miller

2 Hannon
3 Rabbitt
4 Fannin

5 Brady
6 Forde
7 Gaynor

8 McKenna
9 walsh

10 Sean Brady
11 Lyng
12 McKeever

13 Jelly
14 McCabe
15 Pierson

With Larry and Jason as impact subs. If this team was fit and pumped up I think it's a serious outfit...

Savage goalkeeper
fullback line looks airtight if Rabbitt can keep his concentration
Half back line is brilliant, right balance of ballwinning, athleticism and pace
midfield is dubious alright
half forward line is fantastic - carrying ability, scoring, pace and fitness - this would be our strongest line
full forward line wouldnt be afr off the half forwards - jelly is going to be a household name this time next year if we do well. McCabe could be the perfect foil
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Rossi on December 05, 2006, 02:49:21 PM
I'm just guessing but I reckon that Jackson may have being a factor in getting McKenna back in the fold and if that is the case I wouldn't be surprised to see Millar between the sticks come the summer.He is by far the best goalie out there,although at times I'd like to see him vary his kickouts.
Maybe Cavan4ever might have a slant on this.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on December 05, 2006, 03:11:43 PM
yeah id say jackson definatly worked on getting mckenna back (according to hoganstand board he was asked but refused).  Id say miller would go back after xmas if asked but will keoghan want to unsettle the squad??  I'd agree with what ur saying about the kickouts he doesn't vary them enough and this plays into other teams game plan.  When cavan drew with antrim in breffini two yrs ago mccabe blamed miller for cavan's bad performance because he couldn't get near the kickouts cos miller was kicking them 2 far.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on December 05, 2006, 03:19:08 PM
imagine complaining that your goalkeeper is kicking the ball too far  :D
Its called "take a few steps back Dermot"
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on December 05, 2006, 04:00:42 PM
Quote from: The Bottom Brick on December 05, 2006, 02:00:55 PM
OK everyone fit, well and available come championship, here's my best team

1 Miller

2 Hannon
3 Rabbitt
4 Fannin

5 Brady
6 Forde
7 Gaynor

8 McKenna
9 walsh

10 Sean Brady
11 Lyng
12 McKeever

13 Jelly
14 McCabe
15 Pierson

With Larry and Jason as impact subs. If this team was fit and pumped up I think it's a serious outfit..

That's a pretty good shout at our best team alright. I'd swop Gaynor and Forde and that'd be about all I'd change.

There'd be question marks over Lyng's fitness though, and McKeever's commitment, while Pierson faded out of the picture a bit prematurely last year if I recall which looked a bit sus, I don't think he was injured.

Is Paddy Brady from Gowna knocking about, or John Tierney...I heard the latter was regaining some fitness but these stories go around all the time. Brady was a shocking disappointment in the senior shirt after years of stardom underage. Shame.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on December 05, 2006, 05:56:45 PM
Know nothing about Paddy Brady...
John Tierney is out of the country at the moment so im told...I think his injuries have cleared up though and i heard he was playing savage stuff in the US this year.....so put id him down as an unknown at this stage.

at this stage my team would be.

1.Miller

2.Hannon
3.Rabbite
4.Fannin

5.Gunner
6.Gaynor
7.Forde

8.McKenna
9.Walsh

10.Sean Brady
11.Gallagher
12.McKeever

13.Jelly
14.McCabe
15.Pierson

It will take Lyng a good while to recover his fitness/form as he hasnt played for nearly 15 months.
Mad Eddie
Larry
Martin Cahill
Jayo
Flanagan
Cullivan etc
and some other younger lads etc all to come in


We all know though, this being Cavan...That the team come the championship will be nothing like these...
Some of theseplayers will be injured,some will opt out...and others will impress.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: lynchbhoy on December 05, 2006, 06:16:00 PM
I like the look of your side BH
even though you are an eejit (so we are told !  ::))

Maybe Gallagher in at FF with McCabe getting the crowd going with an introduction to save the game midway through the second half a la Down replay in Breffni 2005 (I think it was)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on December 05, 2006, 06:38:28 PM
Me an eejit Never!!!  ;D
McCabe was flying in the challenge game we played against Laois on Saturday even though we got hammered...
He was flying in the McKenna Cup this year against Fermanagh and gave an exhibition of fielding i havent seen from him in at least 5 years....
If he can stay clear of the injuries and get and keep the weight off....He might be in the middle of the field with Nicko Walshe at Centre or Full Forward.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on December 05, 2006, 08:52:06 PM
Fairly familiar names from everyone with their teams for next year. As I see it basically the team from two years ago that got to last 12 plus Sean Brady/Pierson in for a lough of Reilly's. All we need is a bit of luck with injuries, inter player relations, general committment and who knows where it could lead................

One name that has been quickly forgotten is Mulvey from the Bridge, which is interesting given our lack of options at midfield. As I recall he was starting to show a bit of promise during the league last year. Got himself injured and then, in a cameo of the fortunes of Cavan football was brought on in his injured state against Armagh in Under 21 Championship towards the end, but with enough time to get sent off for kickin some bloke up the hole and copped a 12 week suspension. Pity. Remember he looked a bit out of it two years ago but did seem to be making a fist of things last year before "events" intervened. Any opinions.

Some Laois bloke posted a very good item on hogan stand today. Bad news is that we were up against a Laois development squad, so he reckoned. He spoke very positively of a long haired bloke in our half back line who made a big impression and looked seriously fit. Any chance it was Wakely from Kingscourt? My source up there told me he was talked into the senior panel this year and is in serious shape. Same source also told me that Gaynor played some savage ball at FF for Ballinagh, reckons it's a position that might be more suited to the lads temprament. Pity it leaves a bit of a gap at half back though.

Final point, our Laois man pointed out that Dermot was getting rather upset with his fellow players. Good man yourself, nothing like a November challenge to generate a bit of bonding, togetherness and team spirit.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Rossi on December 06, 2006, 11:03:20 AM
Quote from: anglocelt39 on December 05, 2006, 08:52:06 PM

Some Laois bloke posted a very good item on hogan stand today. Bad news is that we were up against a Laois development squad, so he reckoned. He spoke very positively of a long haired bloke in our half back line who made a big impression and looked seriously fit.

I'd say it was probably Ballyhaisemans club mate Barry Kelly,he's a big strong lad,very fit,good on the ball, although his defending at times may be suspect.

Even though Podge may have opted out at the moment,I'd be fairly sure that he'll be there or thereabouts in the summer. 
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: The Bottom Brick on December 06, 2006, 11:15:23 AM
Ath this time of year if you're just super fit you're bound to stand out though. Come summer when everyone is flying fit it could be a different story...
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on December 06, 2006, 01:43:03 PM
Hey folks new poster here, well probably more of an observer than poster.

Anyway take a deep breath, cos I'm from Ballinagh!! But don't worry I won't be littering the board with up the nagh crap that goes on the hoganstand.

Just to give yous more of a Ballinagh related inside track on the county, Podge isn't going in because he is in his final year in college but he will play for county u21s. P.S wouldn't be surprised to see Gaynor booted of the panel at some stage, not that he is an angel or anything ;D, but Keoghan has it in for him and will send him packing given half the chance.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on December 06, 2006, 05:44:27 PM
If I were Keoghan I'd be more worried about who has it in for him (half of Cavan)!!! I reckon Gaynor could be one of our star men this year if someone could help him channel his aggression into football and away from stupidity. I also think Cavan are going to need a three man midfield this year as with McCabes legs gone they just don't have the players to compete with the best on a 1 to 1 basis. I think we'll have to model ourselves on the Tyrone team of around 6/7 years ago which had a small athletic midfield and broke every ball that came near them. I'm thinking maybe Paul Brady might be a man that could be one of the three??
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on December 06, 2006, 06:41:13 PM
Welcome to the board Homer......
Indeed Rossi is correct Barry Kelly of my own club supposedly was oustanding against Laois....
Hes a very very good player....hes a very attacking half back,although i would disagree with Rossi's observation that his defending can be a bit poor,other than Slowey hes probably our best Man marker...
Homer, i cant see Keoghan throwing Gaynor out of the panel....With Crowe refusing into the panel,we dont have a plethora of Centre Halves(lets face it..Forde is too small for Centre Half back).
Myles....i like the idea of Paul Brady as a third midfielder...hes probably the best fielder of a ball on the panel...its a shame he wasnt a few inches taller...
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on December 07, 2006, 11:05:44 AM
Welcome Homer!

I have to say I'm loving the huge Cavan presence on this board. I think for about two years I was the only Cavan man on here, it was fierce lonely altogether. Then a bloke called blue05 or something - blue something anyway - arrived and kept me company for a further year or so and then, bejasus, the floodgates opened and we have our own threads that never die and run to multiples of pages.

We don't win very much but our presence here shows the massive interest we have in the games and would put other counties to shame! ;D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on December 07, 2006, 01:19:56 PM
We don't win very much but our presence here shows the massive interest we have in the games and would put other counties to shame!


Welcome on board Homer. Maniacs comment is indeed as true as it gets. Reminds me of a particularly smug p***k I work with from one of our un-named neighbouring counties, lets just say you have to travel through there on the way to Dublin. The jist of what he delivered in a best flat Nobber style was............"bejasus if All Irelands were won on canteen talk, shop floor talk and pub talk they'd be presenting it to ye every year". Presume he has now added internet chatter. Hate to admit it, maybe the @#@@#er had a point.

Here's to success in 07
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: lynchbhoy on December 07, 2006, 01:24:39 PM
Quote from: anglocelt39 on December 07, 2006, 01:19:56 PM
We don't win very much but our presence here shows the massive interest we have in the games and would put other counties to shame!


Welcome on board Homer. Maniacs comment is indeed as true as it gets. Reminds me of a particularly smug p***k I work with from one of our un-named neighbouring counties, lets just say you have to travel through there on the way to Dublin. The jist of what he delivered in a best flat Nobber style was............"bejasus if All Irelands were won on canteen talk, shop floor talk and pub talk they'd be presenting it to ye every year". Presume he has now added internet chatter. Hate to admit it, maybe the @#@@#er had a point.

Here's to success in 07

dont all these smug ones seem to be fellas that either didnt play after u12 level or come from a rubbish club

I mean, nobber - that renowned successful club side...
:D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on December 07, 2006, 02:40:53 PM
dont all these smug ones seem to be fellas that either didnt play after u12 level or come from a rubbish club

I mean, nobber - that renowned successful club side...


If only it were so Lynchbhoy, the fella in question wouldn't kick doors on a halloween night, no more than myself, unfortunately he is from a clan with some serious form, as in All Ireland medals in the pocket. with that legendary modesty, not afraid to let you know about it either.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on December 08, 2006, 06:33:52 PM
Gaynor takes a break 'Down Under'
08 December 2006


One of the most talented young footballers in Cavan football at the present time – Anthony Gaynor from the Ballinagh club has departed for Australia for a few months break, and will miss the Dr. McKenna Cup and games in the National Football League with the Breffni county side.

The versatile defender, who has had a long hard season with club and county, culminating in his club winning the Cavan SFL title (Division One) recently against a fancied Gowna side is hoping to stay in Australia for a few months. His plans are to come back to Ireland early next year, and hopefully, play a role with Cavan and Ballinagh in championship football.

No doubt, his departure 'Down Under' is a great disappointment for the new Cavan senior management team, who are hoping to get a settled team in time for the start of the National Football League which commences early in February. Gaynor would be very much in the plans, and all they can hope for is that he comes back refreshed early in the new year in plenty of time for the opening round of the 2007 Ulster SFC and the meeting with Down in Kingspan/Breffni Park, Cavan
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on December 08, 2006, 07:38:02 PM
FFS. Not the actions of a happy bunny! Maybe there is something to the previous post about Keoghan not seeing eye-to-eye with Gaynor.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: ExiledGael on December 10, 2006, 06:11:09 PM
Anyone know today's U21 championship scores? How did Parnells v Castlerahan go?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on December 10, 2006, 06:35:11 PM
Castlerahan won 1-8 to 0-1. Wasn't at it but the result is up on aertel p586.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: lynchbhoy on December 10, 2006, 10:03:21 PM
Quote from: anglocelt39 on December 07, 2006, 02:40:53 PM
dont all these smug ones seem to be fellas that either didnt play after u12 level or come from a rubbish club

I mean, nobber - that renowned successful club side...


If only it were so Lynchbhoy, the fella in question wouldn't kick doors on a halloween night, no more than myself, unfortunately he is from a clan with some serious form, as in All Ireland medals in the pocket. with that legendary modesty, not afraid to let you know about it either.


I'd have an answer to that and all Celt - if its the crew I think yer talking about
they are a decent family but have their achilles heel also - more so in the post playing involvement
...theres nothing to crow about there..

I remember putting a kilmaighnamwood eejit back in his box a few years back - he owned a pub round cootehill and was of similar smugness (another guy about 5' 6" , jampot glasses and never kicked a ball)

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: never kickt a ball on December 10, 2006, 10:59:13 PM
Quote(another guy about 5' 6" , jampot glasses and never kicked a ball)

Leave me out o this lads
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: The Bottom Brick on December 10, 2006, 11:19:54 PM
I hear there was a big spread in the Star yesterday about Keogan "Big name GAA manager faces 12 charges" or something

Anyone see it?

Anyone give us a report on the U21 final?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on December 11, 2006, 09:57:21 AM
heard about the thing on keoghan.  does anyone know what it said??
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Maximus Marillius on December 11, 2006, 10:24:49 AM
I seen it, cant remember if it Friday or Saturday, regardless, I was absolutely stunned reading it, roughly it said that he was up on charges of drinking an driving, assulting a guard and also up on another charge of assulting a woman, there was possibly a few other bits in there, but these were the major ones. Did the county board know of these impending charges when making his appointment, very embarressing, the worst is yet to come I would imagine. There will be fun when it gets to court, they will take lots of milage out of it. Crazy stuff.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: The Bottom Brick on December 11, 2006, 10:46:10 AM
The whole county knew about it, sure he's one of the most high profile GAA people in Cavan.

However, as the saying goes, he who pays the piper calls the tune...
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on December 11, 2006, 01:18:13 PM
Was at the U21 final alright and I have to say I'd be advising any Castlerahan folk who have designs on a senior championship in future years to perhaps curb their enthusiasm a bit.

It finished 1-8 to 0-8 and I'd say if it had gone on for five more minutes Parnells might have nicked it and possibly deserved to.

I know Castlerahan's reputation is for having very skilful young footballers but I think they've forgotten that a hard work ethic and sensible tactical approach are also required if more success is to come their way. In the opening half, a much bigger and hardier Parnells side seemed to be trying to upset Castlerahan with late tackles and off the ball niggle (nothing too serious mind) instead of concentrating on the ball. Early balls into attack paid dividends for Castlerahan in this period and a few nice points were tapped over by their no14 while a perceptive pass inside resulted in a foul and peno for Cian Mackey to convert. Parnells didn't have much up front in this half despite winning a fair share of possession; shooting wides or getting bottled up. It was noticeable even at this stage though how hard the Parnells lads were working, hunting like terriers, four and five around the opponent with the ball every time. They just didn't have the class in attack to convert this labour intensive approach into scores. It was 1-5 to 0-2 at the break I think.

Second half, Parnells put the shoulder to the wheel even more. Constantly Castlerahan tried to short pass the ball out of defence which was suicide given the closing down Parnells were doing and their massive physical superiority. Unlike the first half a few scores started to come and their no13 was doing a fair bit of damage and eventually got man of the match. Parnells were immense around the middle third as well. It was hot and heavy for the favourites at this stage, they couldn't win a single ball in midfield to exploit the forwards who in fairness did give Parnells bother any time they got it - it was just all too rare they saw the ball so dominated were Castlerahan from their own kickouts. As well, any time 'Rahan gained possession at the back they short-passed themselves into trouble or got harassed into coughing up the ball. One way traffic practically.

Parnells had a brilliant goal chance at one stage when three down, midway through second half, very well saved by the Castlerahan keeper. Had it gone in I'd say Castlerahan were buried. As it transpired they were within 2 at one point later on but this was the closest they got. The ref Brian Crowe got some stick from Parnells fans but I think he did ok. There was a peno not given but it was defo outside the box and then he gave a free out with Parnells attacking in a good position for a handy score but it looked like a charging offence to me with the elbow up. He did give Mackey two verrrry soft frees though, both in first half.

The odd occasion Castlerahan manged to work an attack, they scored. All three of their second half scores came from 14 yard frees, to be honest they weren't even getting wides from play so little did they have of the ball. Two of those scores came very late on and as I said at the top, if there was five more minutes to play I'd have fancied Parnells to nick it.

Underdogs Parnells can consider themselves very unlucky. They didn't have the individuals Castlerahan had (no14 had a great first half, Flanagan at centre back played very well and the full back did well in a defence that saw an awful lot of pressure and hard duty in second half) but they worked like trojans and supported each other much better than a slightly complacent-looking Castlerahan. Their physical strength also told massively and on this basis, Castlerahan won't be winning an SFC with this crop of nice footballers who haven't the muscle or on this performance at least, haven't the appetite for the hard yards and slog work.

Parnells side is almost entirely U21 again next year and for the effort, spirit and never say die approach to this game I hope they get their rewards in 2007. Lucky Castlerahan!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on December 11, 2006, 08:51:00 PM
Thanks for the under 21 report, sounds like whoever was coaching Parnells got a fairly limited team operating to maximum potential. Any defenders there that could do a job for the county at that grade?

Now in deference to the fact that Maniac is the senior cavan poster on site I've decided to curb my dark pessimistic moods until we are a few games into the league and all that. The Keogan media situation really makes you wonder though. Now there are plenty of inter county coaches who are no angels, although I can't think of one off hand who has managed to have his dirty linen washed this publicly. Of course, doesn't matter a f**k if the results are produced. The county board are certainly giving plenty of hostages to fortune if things were to go wrong and team disciplilne was a factor, team discipline of the off the field variety that is. Never a dull moment.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: The Bottom Brick on December 12, 2006, 10:14:08 AM
I honestly think Cavan will make a lot of progress this year (if their manager stays out of the can!).

We've hit one of the lowest ebbs we've ever been at - the only way really is up. There is a strong core of talented young players and a nice mix of experience too if they can be coaxed to put in a serious effort.

As someone pointed out on this board before, if you had've said in May '94 when we had lost our sixth first round game in a row that within three years we'd be Ulster champions (when Ulster meant something) and have made an Under 21 All Ireland final you'd have been laughed at.

That Under 21 team in 96 did nothing at minor remember, not unlike this year's Under 21 crop. Like 97, we've got a good draw at senior this year, avoiding the big guns really until the Ulster final (hypothetical obviously).

The spine of the defence are in their prime now - Miller (if he plays), Rabbitt, Forde, Gunner... Up front then we have three of the best 22 year olds in Ireland in Brady, Johnston and McKeever.

I mean the likes of Beano McDonald or Donie Brennan wouldn't hold a candle to Johnston. He's the main man this year, but a lot depends on McKeever. When he plays really well Cavan are a different team. He's the forgotten man I think.

Then you still have the likes of McCabe, Jason, Larry - surely they have something to offer...
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on December 12, 2006, 10:43:09 AM
yeah i agree with ya in what ur saying bout mckeever when he is playing well cavan seem to play well.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on December 12, 2006, 10:49:42 AM
Quote from: anglocelt39 on December 11, 2006, 08:51:00 PM
Thanks for the under 21 report, sounds like whoever was coaching Parnells got a fairly limited team operating to maximum potential. Any defenders there that could do a job for the county at that grade?

Nail on the head. It would have been a real triumph for grit and determination. The physical bulk of their side would make me hope a few of the players get drafted although none of them stood out - a real team effort tbh - but if Cavan teams at all levels need one thing it a bit of brute force and old fashioned pig-headed ignorance.

Quote from: anglocelt39 on December 11, 2006, 08:51:00 PM
Now in deference to the fact that Maniac is the senior cavan poster on site I've decided to curb my dark pessimistic moods until we are a few games into the league and all that...

That's all we can do. In keeping with the 'crossroads' theory I've been espousing all year, Cavan can either stay precisely where they are or make significant progress. That's why the manager appointment was so crucial and although it didn't work out as we all had hoped we've no option but to give Keogan a shot now and besides, with the mobiles in the Joy and all that he should be able to conduct team affairs from D wing, or else get his cell mate Anto to pick the team for the Down game.
There's lots of reasons to think it could go well and equally good reasons perhaps to believe the opposite but for all the reasons I've outlined all year I choose to be genuinely hopeful if not outright expectant, and get behind the lads until given reason to do otherwise.
Although it's the U21s I'm really watching out for this year...I will be genuinely disgusted if we don't achieve something at this level this year.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on December 12, 2006, 04:38:46 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on December 08, 2006, 06:33:52 PM
Gaynor takes a break 'Down Under'

Was talking to Anthony before he left and very much intended coming home alright, he is after playing a very hectic year of football (I think Ballinagh played as many games at senior level as anyone else this year) so he just wanted a break and with the current schedule now is his only chance.

I don't know how the Keoghan and co felt about this tho.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on December 12, 2006, 06:05:24 PM
Best of luck to Gaynor...he deserves his break...Hope he has a good time and a fair few sessions down under....
He was Cavans best player against Down in the championship,and i heard he played fairly well against Kildare aswell...
It wont make a hell of alot of difference him missing a few months...Id say hes a serious trainer and will be in the Gyms in Austrailia 4 or 5 days a week anyway.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: lynchbhoy on December 12, 2006, 07:40:23 PM
Gaynor doesnt really need the gym

a natural athlete and naturally v strong - firey disposition also adds to his strength..

just need to harness him and get him to channel his aggression into CHB and teach him not to foul (well within scoring range of frees anyhow)

Cavan have the country's best CHB and dont realise it !
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: The Bottom Brick on December 12, 2006, 08:34:40 PM
Quotejust need to harness him and get him to channel his aggression into CHB and teach him not to foul

Is that all?  ::)

Seriuosly, he needs to keep the head if he wants to be a county footballer. It's no good being the best player on the field for 60 minutes and being on the line for the last ten when the match is up for grabs.

Any player who gets himself sent off can't handle the heat - this is something 100% of sports psychologists agree on believe it or not.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: lynchbhoy on December 12, 2006, 08:49:05 PM
Quote from: The Bottom Brick on December 12, 2006, 08:34:40 PM
Quotejust need to harness him and get him to channel his aggression into CHB and teach him not to foul

Is that all?  ::)

Seriuosly, he needs to keep the head if he wants to be a county footballer. It's no good being the best player on the field for 60 minutes and being on the line for the last ten when the match is up for grabs.

Any player who gets himself sent off can't handle the heat - this is something 100% of sports psychologists agree on believe it or not.

it never hampered a lot of the 'great meath team'
if Gaynor gets a wee bit cuter, he neednt have to curb his natural tendencies...
imo of course

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: lynchbhoy on December 13, 2006, 11:00:09 AM
Will not accept that Brick
I know the case you are making
but not everyone is beyond educating and changing.
Some are lost causes.
I am delighted to hear that Cassidy was onto Gaynor.
All too often the wrong approach is taken with younger players and they revolt rather than reform.

As 'ball has stated, Gaynor is not THAT bad in a Cavan jersey, and I believe with the right mentor and tutoring, he can eradicate all potential rushes of blood to the head during the game from his play.
Its not just the red/yellow cards, its the giving of frees away in scorable positions, it is also the stigma that can be attached to him by ref's  - therefore they will give frees against him easier too.

My point is, he is not that bad, he can be educated and fine tuned into a top class hard nosed cuter CHB.
I dont accept he cannot.I have worked with players with similar bad temperment.OK younger, but they almost all can change.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on December 13, 2006, 11:46:04 AM
Gaynor has made a bed for himself unfortunately. When we played Derry a few seasons ago in the back door Johnny McBride was on him and never let him alone for a second, thumping the head off him. Gaynor eventually started to lose it and then started to forget about ball and went down to the level Mcbride wanted him too. My point is, if Gaynor doesn't learn he will be constantly targeted by wind up merchants like McBride.
BTW, that game against Mayo he came back for after the long suspension he got from the U21 final was one he was very lucky not to get sent off in, as he jumped with his knees into a player on the ground.
I still reckon he is one of  our best players but he needs to find a balance between the nasty stuff and the proper level of aggression - sort of like Roy Keane had to do at one point in his career.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Rollout on December 13, 2006, 01:08:41 PM
If he hadn't gone off injured against Kildare he may have ended up being sent off. He was going in recklessly with some challenges after being put to the ground a few times.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: The Bottom Brick on December 13, 2006, 01:24:16 PM
Fair play to him for not being sent off for seven league games and an amzing TWO chmapionship matches (he went off injured in one of these).  This reminds me of Eddie Murphys skit about black people being proud of stuff that other people wouldn't be, eg boasting:

"Hey man, I ain't never murdered nobody!!"

I see your point in fairness, but the jury's still out on whether he's the reformed character you seem to think he is.

We need his robust style on this team for sure, but any clown can go out and hatchet other teams. We need him to show some self control, and if we get the best out of him he'll be outstanding.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on December 13, 2006, 01:42:57 PM
He has a reputation for been hot heated now as well so im sure he is being wound up all the time which doesn't help him with his short fuse.  He seems to do alot of winding up other players aswell and if they react and don't get spotted by any officals he then dishes out his own punishment.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on December 13, 2006, 02:35:39 PM
Looks like we could have nearly started an Anthony Gaynor thread here. But heres a few comments on him.

I'm almost positive he holds the record for most sendings off in a single year by any one player, 8 that was between trench cup, club and county u21 and Senior. Nothing to be proud of i know.

He was sent off once this year, in the League final for a harsh(IMHO of course) second yellow. This wasn't an instance of losing the head when things got tough either as the game was all but over at this stage. I'm not saying that he didn't get away with anything during the year but surely its a notable improvement.

The key to improving Gaynor is not to repress his aggression (you take the aggression out of Gaynor's game, you take the game out of Gaynor), but to channel it to better use.

The unfortunate thing is that for every team he goes out to play against he will be wound up, but he has made his bed and now he has no choice but to lie in it.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on December 13, 2006, 03:21:21 PM
He may have only been sent off once for his club this year but he got away with loads in the games in Breffini that i seen him play.  Referee's chickened out of sending him off in clubs games this year for some reason.  In 4 games i saw ballinagh play he had 3-4 red card offences at least which is about 1 a game.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on December 13, 2006, 03:33:06 PM
I wouldn't disagree with alot of what's said here but although I haven't read the book in question and am definitely no psychologist, I'd say a tendency to 'cop out' is the last problem I'd associate with Gaynor.

If anything he's far too ballsy and gamey and attracts trouble with his robust style, as well as WUMs with his short fuse. Both combine to result in a fair few disciplinary problems (anyone recall Coleman absolutely going berserk on the sideline in that U21 final when he got the line?) but in a tight game when we need him most there's nobody I'd rather have bursting into tackles than Gaynor - provided there's otherwise been no niggle and he's concentrating fully on the game. A bit of maturity and he'll be a hell of an asset but he needs good, thoughful and imaginative management.

That replay against Down in his first season at senior, he was immense when the chips were down andwe looked buried. The number of times he busted up the play and marauded forward setting up those late attacks for McCabe, I simply lost count.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: The Bottom Brick on December 13, 2006, 05:23:25 PM
Yeah he was unreal in both games against Down the first year, if he could hit those heights again we'd be flying
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on December 14, 2006, 03:48:44 PM
Cavan U-21 panel announced
14 December 2006


The Cavan U-21 panel selected to take part in the forthcoming Hastings Cup competition – which will include Roscommon, Leitrim and Longford – in preparation for the 2007 Ulster U-21 Championship includes many of the top young talent in the county at the present times.

Training for the Cavan senior and U-21 panels has been ongoing over the last few weeks with both in action in January, 2007.

Because of a recent decision from Central Council the months of November and December have been officially closed for county teams with regard to tournament and challenge games.
Permission has been refused from Croke Park for all tournament and challenge matches. As a result, Cavan's opening game in the U-21 Hastings Cup tournament against Roscommon which was to have been played this week-end has been deferred until Saturday, 6th January at a venue to be decided, probably in Our Lady of Lourdes Park, Mullahoran with a 2 o'clock start.

According to reports training has been going well for both these panels and there has been good turn-outs at all the sessions. Hopes are high that the Breffni side can make a strong challenge for U-21 honours in the coming season.

Cavan U-21 panel – Enda Gaffney (Crosserlough), Darragh Gaffney (Drumalee), Aaron Duignan (Kildallan), Adrian Taite (Cuchulainns), Andrew Smith (Cornafean), Colin Lynch (Crosserlough), Cormac Geoghegan (Cornafean), Dane O'Dowd (Drumlane), Declan Gallon (Killygarry), Dermot Sheridan (Mullahoran); Emmett Madden (Gowna), Enda McCormick (Drumalee), Fergal Slowey (Ballyhaise), Finbar Jordan (Lavey), Gearoid Collins (Cavan Gaels), John Cunningham (Swanlinbar), Cillian Lynch (Cuchulainns), Liam Duignan (Cornafean), Michael Mee-han (Cavan Gaels), Paraic Smith (Castlerahan), Ray Cullivan (Ballyhaise), R. Galligan (Lacken), Sean Higgins (Cavan Gaels), Sean McCormack (Ballyhaise), Simon Delaney (Killinkere), Thomas Brady (Mountnugent), Alan Clarke (Kingscourt), Anton Reilly (Ramor Utd.), Cian Mackey (Castlerahan), Declan Mc-Cabe (Crosserlough), Martin Reilly (Killygarry), Michael McDonald (Drumgoon), P. Reilly (Ballinagh) and R. Flanagan (Castlerahan).


strong panel.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on December 14, 2006, 05:14:05 PM
Very strong team this year alright, our best chance of silverware, here's my stab at a team

1. ?
2. Fergal Slowey - (Ballyhaise)
3. Padraic O'Reilly - (Ballinagh)
4. Enda McCormack - (Drumalee)
5. Finbar Jordan - (Lavey)
6. Dermot Sheridan - (Mullahoran)
7. Gearoid Collins - (Cavan Gaels)
8. Ray Cullivan - (Ballyhaise)
9. Alan Clarke - (Kingscourt)
10.Raymond Galligan - (Lacken)
11.Darragh Gaffney - (Drumalee)
12.Cian Mackey - (Castlerahen)
13.Martin Reilly - (Killygarry)
14.Anton Reilly - (Ramor Utd)
15.Ronan Flanagan - (Castlerahen)

Don't know any decent keepers. Terry Smith not playing, Andrew Smith is not near the standard. Are Delaney and Taite keepers

I see Daragh Gunne(think he's still underage) and Ali Pickett are missing are they not going in this year?

Declan McCabe is suspended for first round he got a straight red against Armagh last year.

If Geroid Collins does regain match form in time I'd probably put Emmet Madden full-back and bring Podge out CHB.

Haven't seen Micheal McDonald play in a while but I hear he has came on a bit from the awkward fellow he was, could be an option for midfield if so.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on December 14, 2006, 06:06:04 PM
Simon Delaney is a goalkeeper from Killinkere alright...
my team would be

1.Simon Delaney(Killinkere)
2.Fergal Slowey(Ballyhaise)
3.Sean McCormack(Ballyhaise)
4.Enda McCormack(Drumalee)
5.Dermot Sheridan(Mullahoran)
6.Padraic Reily(Ballinagh) Captain
7.Finbar Jordan(Lavey)
8.Michael McDonald(Drumgoon)
9.Ray Cullivan(Ballyhaise)
10.Cian Mackey(Castlerahan)
11.Darragh Gaffney(Drumalee)
12.Raymond Galligan(Lacken)
13.Martin Reily(Killygarry)
14.Alan Clarke(Kingscourt)
15.Ronan Flanagan(Castlerahan)

Being a Ballyhaise man i think Sean McCormack if on form is a definite on the under 21 team....he was outstanding all year for us
Podge could have more of an impact on the game at CHB in my opinion.
Gearoid Collins is an outstanding footballer,and should get on the team if as you say he shows some form...But he was only after returning from the US last year so was only on the Gaels Junior team.
Anton Reily was playing CHB for Ramor this year....he could be another option back there...
was impressed with McDonald when we played them in the league......I think a big 6'3 plus midfielder who can catch and is fairly mobile..something i didnt expect him to be is a necessity seeing as Ray Cullivan alongside him is only around the 6 foot mark.
Gaffney and Galligan would give us skill and ball winning ability in the half forward line...if i remember correctly Delaney has a big kickout on him.
I think Full Forward is Alan Clarkes best position.
Our teams are pretty similar though.
Gunne and Ali Pickett would have been two great options as Cornerforwards...they unfortunately must not be interested.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on December 14, 2006, 08:09:33 PM
Just a thought, hear he played super football at full forward in a few club matches this year. Put him in there to focus on getting and creating scores, with not quite the same emphasis on big tackles. Is that a possible. I know I would love to see him at CHB where we really need some controlled aggression, however the controlled bit seems to escape the lad a fair bit. Just an idea.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on December 15, 2006, 09:38:16 AM
Here we have a new county board chairman, anyone have any news from last nite?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on December 18, 2006, 03:54:33 PM
Does anyone have any news on the county team.  When is first mckenna cup game been played?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on December 18, 2006, 04:17:06 PM
McKenna cup fixtures

A run down on the Dr McKenna Cup Fixtures for 2007.

All games at 2.00 p.m. (Extra time to be played in Semi finals & Final)
(Venues to be confirmed)

7th Jan: Round 1: Section A
1. St. Mary's v 2. Armagh at Crossmaglen
3. Fermanagh v 4. Monaghan at Lisnaskea

Section B
1. Derry v 2. Cavan at Celtic Park
3. Queens University v 4. Tyrone at Omagh

Section C
1. Donegal v 2. UUJ at Ballyshannon
3. Down v 4. Antrim at Newcastle

14th Jan: Round 2: Section A
2. Armagh v 3. Fermanagh at Crossmaglen
4. Monaghan v 1. St. Mary's at Castleblayney

Section B
2. Cavan v 3. Queens University at Cavan
4. Tyrone v 1. Derry at Omagh

Section C
2. UUJ v 3. Down at Newcastle
4. Antrim v 1. Donegal at Casement Park

21st Jan: Round 3: Section A
1. St. Mary's v 3. Fermanagh at Irvinestown
2. Armagh v 4. Monaghan at Castleblaney

Section B
1. Derry v 3. Queens University at Celtic Park
2. Cavan v 4. Tyrone at Cavan

Section C
1. Donegal v 3. Down at Ballybofey
2. UUJ v 4. Antrim at Casement Park

28th Jan: Semi Finals:
(1) Winner of Section C v Winner of Section A
(2) Winner of Section B v 4th Placed Team

18th February; Final:
1 v 2

Haven't heard anything with regards news with the squad tho, without podge or gaynor in there, my sources are limited. On the bright side we have 2 home games in the cup and the Derry match is being televised live on TG4. I can only see the real die-hards making the trip to celtic park now.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on December 18, 2006, 04:22:07 PM
As a matter of interest Philip Smith our new county board Chairman works with Kingspan doesn't he?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on December 18, 2006, 08:43:25 PM
Jaysus TG4 are starting televising McKenna Cup matches  :o
Good stuff...
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on December 20, 2006, 05:06:14 PM
Hopes and aspirations of new Cavan Co. Board Chairman From Hoganstand
20 December 2006


Hopes and aspirations of new Cavan Co. Board Chairman
The newly elected Cavan Co. Board Chairman Phil Smith from the Kingscourt Stars GFC has put forward his own ideas and views on how he sees Cavan progressing at all levels in the coming years. As the 21st Chairman of the Co. Board he said he hoped to meet whatever task he undertook with enthusiasm and passion in order to achieve success on the playing fields and to continue the excellent work in various aspects of the association within the county.
He said one of his objectives was that county teams in all grades would be able to compete with the best in Ulster. This could only be achieved through the schools and colleges with the support of teachers, progressing to the development squads and ultimately county representation, all being facilitated by the county's full-time coaches.
The eventual target, he said, would be to put Cavan back on the football map where they rightfully belonged.

"Looking forward to improving competitiveness on the local club scene'' – Phil Smith
On club football in the Breffni county, Co. Board Chairman Phil Smith asked clubs to look at the new proposals with a view to standardising the fixtures, giving more competitiveness to the competitions in both league and championship and a master fixtures plan for all grades. The involvement of the Youth Board, colleges, second-level schools into the planning of fixtures is also vitally important he said. These matters will be the subject for discussion at the first meeting of the Co. Board in January.
As he begins his term in office, Phil Smith said the GAA was about the clubs of the county, and those who play their games or administer the rules and regulations. He said he was taking over his new role with enthusiasm and needed the support from the clubs if he was to carry out his functions in the most effective manner.

Former Chairman speaks on Task Force recommendations
George Cartwright in his final address as Chairman of Cavan Co. Board GAA spoke about the recommendations of the task force which had been set up in October last to look at the various competitions and structures. These recommendations were sent out to the clubs and will be the subject of debate at the first Co. Board meeting in January 2007.
He also referred to Cavan's strategic plan during 2006 when a number of officers came together in conjunction with expertise from the Ulster Council to draw up a strategic plan for the county for the next five years.
This though was being carried out in every club in Ulster and, said Cartwright, in Cavan plans proposed some five years ago, with the exception of success on the playing fields, had been realised.
The clubs were being asked for a major imput into this 5-year plan and each had received a questionnaire which sets the process rolling. An important workshop will be held on Saturday, 27th January in Hotel Kilmore at 10 a.m. Three delegates from each club must attend, the chairman, secretary and one other person.
He said what will be discussed at this meeting are the needs, issues and priorities facing Cavan over the next five years.
Cartwright appealed to clubs to follow the example of the county plan and to strongly consider putting a plan in place for consideration. Matters like how do you see your club in five years time; will the game still be as attractive to the youth; will young people see gaelic games as still an important part of their lives; how will clubs integrate International newcomers into their clubs.
He said this club plan should be based on sound planning and a determination to maintain and strengthen the GAA and the wider community it serves.

"Major changes in disciplinary measures,'' says Cartwright
Major changes in disciplinary measures will come into effect from 1st January, 2007 to the current disciplinary rules and procedures. These changes follow a comprehensive review by a high-powered Task Force comprising some of the best legal eagles and GAA gurus in the country.
Cartwright said he thought these changes were quite radical and would require a long period of adjustment. The objective of the changes was that players, clubs and members would have ample opportunity to be heard in their defence if disciplinary action is brought against them, while ensuring that where misconduct or other breaches of rule have taken place those responsible would be made accountable and would not escape on technicalities.
He said the Co. Board would organise a briefing meeting after the first Co. Board meeting in January at which the learning curve could begin.


Cavan Co. Board Treasurer Tom Boylan reasonably happy with state of finances
Looking back on 2006 from a financial point of view, Cavan Co. Board Treasurer Tom Boylan expressed himself reasonably happy. With expenditure reaching an all-time high of §1.4m, nevertheless the year ended showed a small deficit of slightly over §2,600.
Income for the year was §1,362,802 which was up §183,000 on the previous year. Expenditure was §1,365,464 up §125,000 on the previous year. The main reason for the increase was fund-raising which went from §65,000 to §193,344 in 2006, an increase of 34%.
Boylan paid tribute to the Supporters Club in Dublin for the continued hard work in fund-raising which culminated in a figure of §30,000. The Dublin-based supporters club also assisted in travel and hotel expenses for county team training in Dublin.
Boylan said the Corporate Night was a new fund-raising venture organised under the chairmanship of Liam McCabe. He praised McCabe and his committee for making such an outstanding success and bringing in a profit of almost §170,000.
Commercial income and transfer income also showed substantial increases from the previous year. He paid tribute to the sponsors for their continued support and in particular the main county team sponsor Kingspan Group plc and associate sponsor Donal Keogan.
On transfer income, Boylan mentioned that travelling and hotel expenses from Ulster and Central Council amounted to §42,000; All-Ireland qualifiers §40,000, and coaching and games development §144,000. On expenditure, the county team expenditure and administration amounted to 62% of the total expenditure.
In relation to county team spending, Tom Boylan said more control was required and expenditure should be kept within bud-get. He anticipated that under the new management expenditure in the coming year will come within budget.
He paid tribute to Bernie Lynch, clerical officer in Breffni Park; Liam McCabe and Martin Cahill, the Treasurers of the Minor Board, Schools Board and Scor; stewards who helped not only in Kingspan-Breffni Park, Cavan but also at venues throughout the county.
He also thanked former Chairman George Cartwright and former Central Council representative Phil Brady for their support during their period in office.


Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: highking on December 22, 2006, 01:48:40 AM
Lads,

Can an of yee answer this question.

2) Before the newly appointed Donal Keoghan, who was the last Cavan native to manage the Breffni senior footballers?

Highking
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: CavanCola on December 22, 2006, 08:32:39 AM
Pretty sure it was PJ Carroll.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: CavanCola on December 22, 2006, 08:47:09 AM
But then again... Damien O'Reilly did take over for a few league games after Machugh left as Temporary manager (Maybe this didn't count as being fully flegded but he did serve!).

Highking,
This is from the Hoganstand quiz thread?? Could be a controversial question in my opinion.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on December 22, 2006, 10:58:57 AM
And when McHugh took a winter break at Xmas 96 before coming back and leading us to glory in Ulster, Donal Donoghue I think took over for the first few league games in which we were roundly spanked if I recall correctly.

But the last official, full-time Cavan boss was definitely PJ Carroll whose last campaign was in 1993 prior to McHugh's takeover in time for the 1994 win over Antrim, which was, back then, our first championship win in 7 attempts or something.

Incidentally, in googling that to check my facts, I came across two articles on hoganstand from the early 90s which might interest Cavan readers:

http://www.hoganstand.com/Cavan/ArticleForm.aspx?ID=48467

and

http://www.hoganstand.com/Cavan/ArticleForm.aspx?ID=41945
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: CavanCola on December 22, 2006, 11:18:56 AM
great articles  indeed Cavan Maniac! Jim Reilly was one of the best. Another name in there was the mention of the tenacious Pat Faulkner. Pure Legend. Those lads were part of a very solid team that never made a real breakthrough. I can remember sitting in the Hogan stand with my Dad watching that Cavan Meath match in 84. Meath emerged from that competition to dominate football for a long time.

Agree with you on PJ Carroll as Last real official Cavan manager
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: lynchbhoy on December 22, 2006, 11:49:01 AM
Best of luck to all my Cavan pals in the new year.

I'll be shipping in a turkey to Cavan again this Christmas as I bring Christmas cheer (and dinner) to those more unfortunate ..
(i.e less willing to pay for it !)
;)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on December 22, 2006, 12:00:49 PM
A turkey from Derry? It's not Enda Muldoon is it? ;D

Happy Christmas Lynchbhoy, we know you're a Cavan wannabe at heart!

Re: Pat Faulkner and co, you're right that this side underachieved slightly. I remember Faulkner at no.14 against Moanaghan in '86, fisted two points in that 0-12 to 0-10 victory. I still recall the Irish Press backpage screamer headline the next day - CAVAN ROCK MONAGHAN. Sweet. That was my first ever championship game and it couldn't have been better even if I didn't understand too much about it all at the time.

I don't remember Jim Reilly too much to be honest.But I recall John Brady from Laragh playing two absolute stormers in the league quarter-final and semi-final in '89, that team really looked to have potential but as usual, when championship came around it just didn't happen for us.

King in his prime, Reilly too, Pat Faulkner, the lads off the All-Ireland final U21 team....we shoulda been contenders. Let's hope history doesn't keep perpetuating itself.

Up Cavan.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: lynchbhoy on December 22, 2006, 12:02:43 PM
Quote from: cavanmaniac on December 22, 2006, 12:00:49 PM
A turkey from Derry? It's not Enda Muldoon is it? ;D

Happy Christmas Lynchbhoy, we know you're a Cavan wannabe at heart!
I have been bringing Christmas to Cavan for the past two years.
thats what you get when you marry one!

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: CavanCola on December 22, 2006, 12:26:14 PM
The Biggest Turkey I can think of from Derry would have to be the big and bould Geffory McGonigel.  I can't imagine how big he is now. Is he still playing? He'd never fit in the oven.

Cavan Maniac,
That would have been Mickey Faulkner that was scoring the points? Always played at number 14.
Pat always played corner back / wing back. He was Merciless. He invented the phrase "they shall not pass".

Remember that head line as well!! Freaky.

Happy Christmas to all

Ho Ho Ho
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on December 22, 2006, 12:30:06 PM
Quote from: CavanCola on December 22, 2006, 12:26:14 PMCavan Maniac,
That would have been Mickey Faulkner that was scoring the points? Always played at number 14.

And I knew when typing it I was making that mistake but just ignored it and typed it anyway. ALWAYS get these guys mixed up! ::)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on December 22, 2006, 12:43:56 PM
Hope u guys don't eat 2 much turkey over xmas the first round of league games are the 18th feb so go easy on the food and the pints!!!!!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on December 22, 2006, 01:35:05 PM
18th February  :o
Bollox
i wasnt going to bother starting training this year til the end of Janurary.........
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on December 22, 2006, 03:27:24 PM
Well lads, off home after work in a few minutes. Have a good christmas and hopefully we'll have a good year of the football. BTW, any of you ever visit the http://www.breifne.ie/ website. It is a tourism thing and nothing to do with football, but there is loads of stuff about the old kingdom, which we were in the heart of, that you never get thought about anymore sadly. I spent a good hour on it the other night reading through.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on December 22, 2006, 03:38:29 PM
Happy Christmas Myles....
Happy Christmas to
all other Cavan Posters(Lynchbhoy as well  ;D )
Cant wait to finish work at 5.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on December 22, 2006, 03:44:22 PM
Well I'm forking off right now and won't be seen near a PC until early January, so until then happy Christmas to all Cavan folk, and gaels everywhere. Except Meath. And Monaghan. And Longford. Oh, and Westmeath. Fermanagh and Tyrone while I'm about it.

Ah feck it, Happy Christmas to everyone no matter where, see yis all next year ;D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: lynchbhoy on December 22, 2006, 07:11:02 PM
Quote from: CavanCola on December 22, 2006, 12:26:14 PM
The Biggest Turkey I can think of from Derry would have to be the big and bould Geffory McGonigel.  I can't imagine how big he is now. Is he still playing? He'd never fit in the oven.

Cavan Maniac,
That would have been Mickey Faulkner that was scoring the points? Always played at number 14.
Pat always played corner back / wing back. He was Merciless. He invented the phrase "they shall not pass".

Remember that head line as well!! Freaky.

Happy Christmas to all

Ho Ho Ho

Naw man, there are far bigger turkeys in Derry.
Yous would have played Geoff if yez had him - pity Derry wouldnt in those days.

Were the Faulkeners from Kingscourt

happy Christmas all you Cavan folk.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on December 23, 2006, 05:05:11 PM
Am I the only Cavan man that posts to this thread in his own time???

Happy christmas one and all. Jim Reilly was indeed a classy footballer. Irish Indo had one of these filler articles a year or two ago, best all star team never to win all stars if you get my meaning and Jim was on there at wing half back. Not sure that life has been all that kind to him since which is a pity. Think it was the 78 Ulster final that we may have taken a double beating in, minor and senior. Minor team included Jim, Donal Donohue, Ray Cullivan, well trounced by somebody or other although I remember a screamer of a goal being scored for Cavan by, I think, Aidan Tierney of Kingscourt Stars, the Stars had some serious underage talent around those times. That same year we took a good beating from Down in the senior final and a few things stand out. I think it was the year that Ollie Texas Brady got his all star, a bit controversially since Kevin Moran of Dublin was also in the running for the Number 6 spot. The Late Michael O Hehir in his preview that day had the headline that the outcome to the game lay "Deep in the Heart of Texas". Ollie took em on single handed as I recall and was being roared on from the hill in Clones. Come the last ten minutes we were well bet and Texas had run out of Steam. Gowan Texas went a forlorn breffni voice as he want on one more maraude up the park to which a droll down Voice replied "yiz need a few more Texans out there lads" . Also remember that prize p***k Adge King trying to launch a physical attack on Liam Austin, no less, with few boxes to the ribs, no attempt to play the ball at all, Austin nearly fell around laughing at him. Adge's weight division for acting the maggot was no higher than youngsters in club matches as he was to prove in a county final a few years later.

Maniac, your first championship fixture against the Mushroom pickers in 86??? surprised I thought you might have been around a bit longer................you certainly have stuck it out through thin and thin, the day we started making headlines for giving what once was a routine beating to that lot. Somebody else spoke about the centenary semi final in 84 against the rials, christ it was tough going coming back through Kells and Navan that night. Abiding memory was Kevin Carney of Cootehlill (all 10 stones of him) coming on towards the end and going in on Mick Lyons, enough said.

Seasons greetings all
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Owenmoresider on December 24, 2006, 01:22:16 AM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on December 22, 2006, 03:27:24 PM
Well lads, off home after work in a few minutes. Have a good christmas and hopefully we'll have a good year of the football. BTW, any of you ever visit the http://www.breifne.ie/ website. It is a tourism thing and nothing to do with football, but there is loads of stuff about the old kingdom, which we were in the heart of, that you never get thought about anymore sadly. I spent a good hour on it the other night reading through.
It's funny you should bring that up myles, a few months ago a big sign was erected at Knockbeg (on the N17 between Ballinacarrow and Collooney) indicating your entry to "Breifne", and no-one knew what it was for. Same sign was on the Ballymote-Tubber road. That site has cleared it up now, think the ruins featured on the site's homepage are the ruins just off the Collooney/Ballygawley road. Would never have thought that we would have had any linkage with Breffni, turns out we're on its windowledge.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: The Bottom Brick on December 24, 2006, 07:04:10 PM
Is that Kevin Carney the reporter?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on December 24, 2006, 08:35:54 PM
the very same one bb, if you can imagine somebody, lilke, say Jelly Johnston one year out of minor being sent on in the last ten minutes when the game is well lost and, guess what, congratulations, you have the honour of going in on the bone cruncher that was Mick Lyons you get the general picture. The sort of thing that stays with you for a while.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: The Bottom Brick on December 24, 2006, 10:32:22 PM
Didn't know Carney was a good footballer in his day...

Wonder does he do much for the Celt?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: CavanCola on January 02, 2007, 11:12:45 AM
Anyone know (Or guess) what the Cavan Team will be for next sunday v Derry?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on January 02, 2007, 04:43:09 PM
CavanCola,

To be honest I have no idea what the team will look like but I would love to see the following players on the team just so I can see some of the terrible injury luck we have had relapse a bit...

Gerald Pierson
Mark McKeever
Michael Lyng
Darren Rabbitte

I'd also like to see McCabe at FF and also see if there is any sort of forward strategy being worked on to get ball into these players. On paper a Johnson, McCabe and Pierson FF line looks good to me.

Then I am praying that we see someone around the middle take up the slack that McCabes fielding will leave behind and also that we get a dedicated free taker on the team and quit this messing we've been at for the last few years.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on January 03, 2007, 12:12:22 PM
Posted by never kickt a ball over in the McKenna Cup thread:

Cavan boss performs major surgery

Saturday, December 30

New Cavan manager Donal Keoghan has performed major surgery on his Senior football panel with just 17 of last year's squad set to feature in the upcoming campaign.

Of Martin McElkennon's 2006 squad eight high-profile footballers have either been dropped, opted out or retired - Pauric Reilly, Cathal Collins, Anthony Gaynor, James Reilly (Drung), Eddie O'Reilly (Mullahoran), Finbarr O'Reilly and Michael Brides.

Gaynor is travelling in Australia and will be away for at least three months, while James Reilly is taking a year out as he is unable to give the necessary commitment.

Peter Reilly is retired, and the other five have been dropped.

A further seven panellists have been let go by Keoghan - Michael Brennan, Dermot McGlade, Eamonn O'Reilly (Shannon Gaels), Enda King, Dermot Sheridan, Martin Lynch and Joey Jordan.

*****

With the exceptions of Ballinagh duo Pauric Reilly and Anthony Gaynor (who will hopefully come back for championship), I either wouldn't know or wouldn't shed any tears about the others that have been let go - provided the replacements have a realistic chance of being better and inproving the team.

Deep breath lads. Here goes for Keogan and Grimley this weekend. We'll probably be flying fit and mad for road so don't be surprised if we win...although historically, we do tend to embarrass ourselves on television...
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on January 03, 2007, 03:50:16 PM
Just a little bit of news for yous.

Gaynor is back home next Thursday (10th).

The Cavan seniors played the u21s last weekend in Templeport, seniors won by 6. Full-forward line was Pierson, Sean Brady, Jelly. With Brady moving out as a third midfielder (his role with UCD). Didn't hear much else from the teams but if I do i'll let you's know.

And last but not least

Top GAA Manager Faces 12 Criminal Charges

(http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p261/BallinaghMan/keoghan.jpg)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on January 03, 2007, 04:10:42 PM
Also forgot to mention but training is suppose to be the most unmerciful since the days of Austin
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: lynchbhoy on January 03, 2007, 04:21:03 PM
Quote from: Homer on January 03, 2007, 04:10:42 PM
Also forgot to mention but training is suppose to be the most unmerciful since the days of Austin
I thought the training under austin was too easy ?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on January 03, 2007, 04:25:59 PM
Quote from: lynchbhoy on January 03, 2007, 04:21:03 PM
Quote from: Homer on January 03, 2007, 04:10:42 PM
Also forgot to mention but training is suppose to be the most unmerciful since the days of Austin
I thought the training under austin was too easy ?
Don't remember much from them days but I thought the team got rid of him because they couldn't hack the training
I may have picked that up wrong  :-X
It wouldn't be unlike me to get things backwards
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Cromagh on January 03, 2007, 04:26:51 PM
Sounds like Keoghan is not a manager that will gain respect....up in court facing charges.....Maybe McElkennon n cassidy werent that bad after all
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on January 03, 2007, 04:53:01 PM
Ah no, they were that bad, just not in the criminal sense...

I've heard training is absolutely punitive as well, as Keogan and Grimley opt for a Ger-Loughnanesque separate the men from the boys-type approach. But sure you hear that every time a new man takes over, let's wait and see.

Great news that Gaynor is home so early. I was afraid he'd be away for months and if he wasn't training or looking after himself he'd strike me as a lad that'd take a while to get his sharpness back.

As for Austin there was some rumour that the training wasn't hard enough, that's what I recall. The team were reckoning they hadn't been trained hard enough by comparison with what it took to achieve success under wee Martin. Interestingly, we might not have been too far behind under Austin.

We showed good character to pip Fermanagh in the 1998 first round and opened up playing like men possessed against Donegal, only for the ref to spend the last 50 minutes effectively apologising to Donegal for a harsh sending off by giving them every marginal decision afterwards and some not so marginal at all. I think Tony Boyle won more dodgy frees that day than ever before or since in one game with Terry Farrelly in particular being unable to lay a finger on an opponent without being whistled for it.

A very frustrating day and it's been practically all downhill from there.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: lynchbhoy on January 03, 2007, 05:13:06 PM
thas what was said at he time - not that the training was too hard but
the players 'revolted' as they believe the training was not near hard enough under austin.

the mchugh regieme had them puking their rings up at each session and they won the ulster title
so they thought that this was the way to go

now with two lame reillys (Peter and Larry) and a full time hospital case in McCabe to name but three off that panel
it looks like that was indeed far too much training
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Cromagh on January 03, 2007, 06:26:07 PM
Bottom line is that Cavan are not good enough. You can do all the traininig you want but when a group of losers like there is in Cavan at the minute get the heat turned up on them they melt and quit. Hence the reason why Cassidy was not liked!! wait until big Grimley starts telling a few home truths they will run him out of town as well
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on January 03, 2007, 11:41:58 PM
The Reason Liam Austin was sacked as manager is because the Players thought his training wasnt hard enough.....

I must say Eddie Reily and Michael Brennan being out of the panel is a bit of a suprise to me...
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on January 04, 2007, 12:03:28 AM
Mad Eddie can't be faulted for effort, or passion and application, but if we are seriously contemplating having him as one of our forward options then it's a sad reflection on Cavan football. He got his chance, gave his all but one salad day apart in the league against poor opposition, the guy just doesn't have it for this level.

In some games he was actually clattering his own players in his over exuberance and people were actually laughing at him. I don't know if he could have been fashioned into a more polished performer in time but on the basis of what I've seen so far, I'd seriously doubt it. Plus there's always the lingering fear that he'd clock someone in a big game and get the line. Maybe at some point down the road, but like I said, I can't see it happening and with Pierson, Jelly, Mackey, McCabe, Lyng and others all hopefully available, Eddie is very surplus. He wouldn't have got near the panel in alot of other counties.

Mickey Brennan I think might be getting a slightly raw deal though. He too gave everything in last year's league only to be discarded for the fat boys brigade when summer came. He's very limited too but I'd have held onto him as a decent enough sub who could come on late in games, run at the opposition with his strength and pace and win a few frees or something.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Hank Everlast on January 04, 2007, 08:55:22 AM
Unmerciful training would sound about right with Grimley as coach... It will reap rewards tho, so long as him and keoghan get the lads respect and not the 'talking behind the back syndrome'.. .. :-\
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on January 04, 2007, 01:10:47 PM
Has the Cavan panel been announced yet for the McKenna Cup? I see you reckon mad eddie and Brennan are of the panel. Poor auld Brennan is getting a very raw deal. He was even previewed on Hogan Stand there last week I think. Anyone making the trip to Celtic Park? Can't go myself, have to go and look at a new car in the big smoke. Will probably try and catch it somewhere on TG4.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: lynchbhoy on January 04, 2007, 01:22:49 PM
Quote from: Thastheball on January 04, 2007, 09:42:58 AM
Forty grand, thats a bit steep. Sure you dont want to add on a bit more,say lets go for the round 50.  You sound like someone who is into conspiracy theories, he wasn't even the manager. Why does Cavan have thsi tag of being big payers, they cant be any better or worse than most other counties. This is gaelic football not the premiership. Maybe its because we have nothing else to talk about because our football team is so poor.

Lads are we happy that somelike Keogan is in charge. Hes up in court on many charges, personally I am just embarrassed to think hes our county manager

Cavan have the most active GAA fund raising committees in Ireland
the Dublin branch were forever holding events to raise money.
Far from the stereotype
Kildare were also up there in getting big cash together - but theirs was mostly through the supporters club and private sponsorships - most of this went on mick odwyer.They aren't generating the same kind of money these days.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: LaurelEye on January 04, 2007, 01:35:39 PM
Quote from: ThatstheballWhy does Cavan have thsi tag of being big payers, they cant be any better or worse than most other counties.

I think Cavan spent something like €1 million last year on the county team. The figures were in the Celt the week before last in the County Convention report.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on January 04, 2007, 04:03:23 PM
Cavan Senior Football panel for the McKenna Cup

Shane Sheridan(Lacken)
Thomas Corr(Denn)
Darren Rabbitte(Cavan Gaels)
Keith Fannin(Drumgoon)
Paul Brady(Mullahoran)
Nicholas Walsh(Cavan Gaels)
Declan McCabe(Crosserlough)
Jonatan Crowe(Crosserlough)
Eamonn Reily(Cavan Gaels)
Thomas Wakely(Kingscourt)
Michael McDonald(Drumgoon)
Lorcan Mulvey(Buttlersbridge)
Alan Clarke(Kingscourt)
Donal Thomas(Killygarry)
Dermot McCabe(Gowna)
Anthony Forde(Cavan Gaels)--missing from Derry game as he just got married
Mark McKeever(Gowna)
Michael Brennan(Drumalee)
Michael Cunningham(Swanlinbar)
Cian Mackey(Castlerahan)
Gerald Pierson(Gowna)
Jason O Reily(Belturbet)
Martin Reily(Killygarry)
Sean Brady(Castlerahan)
Enda McCormack(Drumalee)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on January 04, 2007, 05:57:31 PM
Anglo Celt mate.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on January 04, 2007, 07:18:53 PM
I see Micheal Brennan is named in that panel, so is he in or not.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: The Bottom Brick on January 04, 2007, 07:42:37 PM
I'm telling you what I heard said by people who would be well informed.

Junior club managers are on 80 quid a night, two or three nights a week. What are seniuor inter county managers on? Twice that? Five times a week (including matches)?

That's 800 a week into their hand straight off, if it stops there. This is at least nine/ten months of the year remember, so you're looking at 30k cash straight off (personally I know for certain McElkennon/Cassidy had more than this each).

Add to that expenses/ meals/ gear/ free car/ free mobile phone...

You do the maths here. It's a joke but that's the way football has gone. Cavan are as fanatical as nay county, have as good a support and therefore are one of the highest payers.

On your other point...

Do you really live in the middle of Cavan? Do you really know "the Gaels lads"? OH MY GOD!!! Any chance of an autograph? Could you arrange a signed picture even?

:D :D :D

Look, this is Cavan, it's not exactly a metropolis. If you play football, go to third level with a couple of footballers, went to St Pats etc then of course you'd know a good few lads on the county panel. Just don't be letting on to be Mr Informed!



Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: liihb on January 05, 2007, 10:17:34 AM
Sorry Lads, a little of topic here, but do any of ye know did Cavan reach an Ulster final with Val Andrews at the helm, and if so (and I think so!) what year? Settle a little bet for me
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on January 05, 2007, 10:22:56 AM
Quote from: liihb on January 05, 2007, 10:17:34 AM
Sorry Lads, a little of topic here, but do any of ye know did Cavan reach an Ulster final with Val Andrews at the helm, and if so (and I think so!) what year? Settle a little bet for me

Andrews did indeed bring them to an Ulster final. It was 2001 against Tyrone we lost by 2 points
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: liihb on January 05, 2007, 10:31:33 AM
Thanks Homer
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on January 05, 2007, 11:22:47 AM
From Hoganstand

Crozier includes three Newcomers

Derry manager Paddy Crozier has named three debutants in his side for Sunday's McKenna Cup meeting with Cavan.

Kieran McIver, Aidan McAlynn and Raymond Wilkinson are given their first competitive starts and are joined in the side by established stars such as Barry Gillis, Paddy Bradley, Kevin McGuckin and Patsy Bradley.

Wilkinson is included at wing forward after impressing in Ballinderry's recent Ulster club championship campaign, while another Ballinderry man, Conleth Gilligan, makes a return to inter-county action after a year-long absence. County hurler and former All-Ireland minor winner Ruairi Convery is named at left half forward.

Derry (SF v Cavan): B Gillis; M McGoldrick, K McGuckin, J Keenan; P Cartin, K McIver, A McAlynn; J Diver, Patsy Bradley; R Wilkinson, C Gilligan, R Convery; J Kelly, Paddy Bradley, A McCartney.

--A lot of big names missing for them
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: The Bottom Brick on January 05, 2007, 12:31:58 PM
OK Thats the Ball, I bow to your superior knowledge. What were McElkennon and Cassidy getting as a matter of interest?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on January 05, 2007, 12:45:46 PM
If that panel is from the Celt you'd have to assume, as far as you can assume when it's the Celt, that it's correct. So I'm wondering where's the famous Rory Gallagher, he was supposed to be training with the panel and was supposed to be flying fit as well, so I can't think why he wouldn't be there if the whole thing hadn't been called off? Is he injured maybe? Caused a row already?

It also looks like stories of Pearse McKenna's return to the panel are wide of the mark, unless he's sitting out this competition, ironically.

Lyng's not on it either but I'm happy about that...in fact I'd use him very sparingly until maybe the last three league matches and maybe only as a sub in those games too. He's had a bad trot of terrible injuries and needs wrapping in cotton wool.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: lynchbhoy on January 05, 2007, 12:58:01 PM
Has Rory Gallagher's transfer application gone in and also been approved yet?

I heard he was still knocking about our club and there is talk that he might be training our minors today...
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: The Bottom Brick on January 05, 2007, 12:59:48 PM
Is he coming to play for a club in Cavan?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on January 05, 2007, 01:00:00 PM
Lynchbhoy has it correct
Gallaghers transfer hasnt gone through yet...
Thats the reason he isnt listed
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on January 05, 2007, 01:02:15 PM
I heard Gallagher's transfered to Crosserlough and that he's taking over "The Pub" in Kilnaleck, don't know how true this is tho.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: lynchbhoy on January 05, 2007, 01:09:16 PM
Quote from: The Bottom Brick on January 05, 2007, 12:59:48 PM
Is he coming to play for a club in Cavan?
Very hazy on this, but I dont think you can play county unless you play for a club in the county (or hail from the county)

but this whole scenario is breaking new ground...(it differs from any of the previous transfers I recall as lads traditionally would move to the area from their home club & county, transfer to the new club and then play county - pauraic brogan/declan darcy)

I heard that Gallagher was going to some club in the (south)  ballyduff/kilanleck/mullahoran cavan region (and its none of them apparantly)
but my source hasnt a clue about the clubs in her own area and thus the info was wasted and couldnt give me the fecking name

again it could be just idle rumour and he goes to the gaels
cant see anyone in their right mind going to the denn

although the club he is mooted to be joining has a selector/financial backer of the cavan county team
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: lynchbhoy on January 05, 2007, 01:11:43 PM
Quote from: Homer on January 05, 2007, 01:02:15 PM
I heard Gallagher's transfered to Crosserlough and that he's taking over "The Pub" in Kilnaleck, don't know how true this is tho.

you know I forgot to mention the club 'crosserlough' and reeled in most of the other ones in the region
I wonder if she would have remembered the club name if I had called it out
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on January 05, 2007, 01:37:48 PM
I was talkin to a man from Kilnaleck yesterday and he wouldn't have the first clue about football and he told me some guy from Fermanagh was taken over The Pub, I asked if it was hardly a Gallagher fella, and he said it was  ??? ??? ???
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: lynchbhoy on January 05, 2007, 01:39:26 PM
Quote from: Homer on January 05, 2007, 01:37:48 PM
I was talkin to a man from Kilnaleck yesterday and he wouldn't have the first clue about football and he told me some guy from Fermanagh was taken over The Pub, I asked if it was hardly a Gallagher fella, and he said it was  ??? ??? ???

what is it about you folk from round Bellinagh and Kilinaleck - most wouldnt know a football or anything thats going on in the local sides...

really bucks the trend in Cavan !

;)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on January 05, 2007, 01:50:08 PM
Quote from: lynchbhoy on January 05, 2007, 01:39:26 PM
Quote from: Homer on January 05, 2007, 01:37:48 PM
I was talking to a man from Kilnaleck yesterday and he wouldn't have the first clue about football and he told me some guy from Fermanagh was taken over The Pub, I asked if it was hardly a Gallagher fella, and he said it was  ??? ??? ???

what is it about you folk from round Bellinagh and Kilinaleck - most wouldnt know a football or anything thats going on in the local sides...

really bucks the trend in Cavan !

;)

I was only putting it like that because I don't know why this fella would have that story if it wasn't true because he wouldn't have a notion who Raymond Gallagher was  :-\
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: The Bottom Brick on January 05, 2007, 02:02:07 PM
Quotecant see anyone in their right mind going to the denn

Why's that?

They're a solid senior league club and got to the last four of the senior championship in 2005 I think
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: lynchbhoy on January 05, 2007, 02:17:26 PM
Quote from: Homer on January 05, 2007, 01:50:08 PM
Quote from: lynchbhoy on January 05, 2007, 01:39:26 PM
Quote from: Homer on January 05, 2007, 01:37:48 PM
I was talking to a man from Kilnaleck yesterday and he wouldn't have the first clue about football and he told me some guy from Fermanagh was taken over The Pub, I asked if it was hardly a Gallagher fella, and he said it was  ??? ??? ???

what is it about you folk from round Bellinagh and Kilinaleck - most wouldnt know a football or anything thats going on in the local sides...

really bucks the trend in Cavan !

;)

I was only putting it like that because I don't know why this fella would have that story if it wasn't true because he wouldn't have a notion who Raymond Gallagher was  :-\

I think I found the only family in Cavan to marry into that are not clued into football at all - unusual as there are usually 'some' in a famly that would have some passing interest
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: lynchbhoy on January 05, 2007, 02:20:24 PM
Quote from: The Bottom Brick on January 05, 2007, 02:02:07 PM
Quotecant see anyone in their right mind going to the denn

Why's that?

They're a solid senior league club and got to the last four of the senior championship in 2005 I think

a nice club
but unless they have some serious underage talent coming through they are always going to be outsiders to win anything
and its only usually the 'sexy' big shot clubs that outsiders (high profile ones) join

ok crosserlough if its true also goes against the grain, but I expect this is a money thing
its always the gaels and maybe gowna possibly crosserlough and maybe kingscourt/bailboro (when they are going well) that can attract them
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on January 05, 2007, 04:12:38 PM
Yeah actually, good shout, I'd have him in there as well. Throw in the fact that he's a Denn man and his absence is a puzzle alright, but then again at this time of year with team holidays and taking breaks, the panel is always a bit up in the air. Besides I've just found out you can rotate five new players in and out of the squad from game to game in the McKenna Cup, to aid experimentation, so I wouldn't be too bothered about who's there or not just yet.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: The Bottom Brick on January 05, 2007, 05:15:49 PM
Quoteits always the gaels and maybe gowna possibly crosserlough and maybe kingscourt/bailboro (when they are going well) that can attract them

Did Gowna/Crosserlough/Kingscourt/Baiileboro have any high profile imports in recent years?

B'boro had Pat Fallon I think anyway. Kingscourt had Raymond Cunninghakm but he was more or less a Kingscourt man anyway, lived in the parish and won several handball All Irelands with the Kingscourt club and for Cavan.

Who did Gowna get?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on January 05, 2007, 06:47:24 PM
i cant remember Gowna getting any blow ins i must say....
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on January 05, 2007, 07:44:50 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on January 05, 2007, 06:47:24 PM
i cant remember Gowna getting any blow ins i must say....

what about Gowna gettin yer man Gunner from Mullahoran  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: lynchbhoy on January 05, 2007, 09:14:37 PM
no no lads, thats not what I menat
apologies for misleading

I meant that these were the top clubs that would be most attractive to outsiders thinking of transferring in
not that they had already attracted players

though mullahoran got a couple along with bealin a couple of years ago did they not?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: The Bottom Brick on January 05, 2007, 09:32:54 PM
the got a Maguire fella from Fermanagh he was a good footballer...who did they get along with Bealin?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: lynchbhoy on January 05, 2007, 09:36:32 PM
Quote from: The Bottom Brick on January 05, 2007, 09:32:54 PM
the got a Maguire fella from Fermanagh he was a good footballer...who did they get along with Bealin?
from memory I thought there was bealin and some other chap transferred in with him
cant remember , prob wouldnt know who it was anyway - just something in the back of my mind tells me I heard there was A N Other.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on January 07, 2007, 06:49:12 PM
Posting pattern on this thread does little to give lie to the fact that we are tight arsed gits. Hopefully you will get back to your employers/state sponsored internet links in the morning to post relentlessly about todays game. Happy new year one and all.

Anyway, ignoring all the reasons for taking todays game with a pinch of salt there is nothing negative that I could see, from my armchair mind you, apart from Rabbitte's injury, which hopefully is not serious. One week into the new year and a performance that beats anything that was put in last year, league or championship.

No doubt there will be major analysis/comment when we open for business tomorrow. Only one comment on my part and that's about a player that figured in nobodys predictions for the year ahead, it being our most troublesome position-Lorcan Mulvey. Has shed a fair few pounds, got around the park a lot, broke up attacks, set up a number of attacks, kicked a few lovely scores. Finally, on a few occasions betrayed an attitude of taking shit from NOBODY.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on January 07, 2007, 08:12:57 PM
Il give my analysis of the game(From TV btw i didnt take the trip down to CP)

1.Colm Anderson.....massive kickouts....good shot stopping displayed in the second half.....
Only mishap was coming and failing to get a ball,Micky Brennan almost put into his own net...
But overall good.

2.Martin Cahill.........he was marking Conleth Gilligan Derrys cheif playmaker...Gilligan didnt score from play,Cahill pulled ragged,and put himself out for every ball...a great defensive performance by the Denn Man.

3.Darren Rabbitte......................Him going off was a blow...as Paddy Bradley ran rings around Chesty from that time up until just before half time when Fannin was switched over....i Hope its not serious...Rabbitte is key to us doing well this year.

4.Keith Fannin.......moved onto Bradley just before half time...and whilst he struggled at first,soon came into his own and done well on the Derry Star in the seconf half..

5.Eamon Reily.........Not Chesty's best game,but he stuck at it.. and battled away....he got skinned by Bradley,but hes not alone in having that done to him.

6.Nicholas Walsh... a new position for Walshe and in my opinion he done very well.....Could be the big stopper we need for CHB....

7.Jonathan Crowe...The Crosserlough man a more renowned Centre Forward had a quiet enough game,yet looked good on the ball and helped set up a few scores in the second half...id like to see him get a go at CHF.

8.Dermot McCabe....outstanding...covered alot of ground...much lighter at this time of year than he was for the championship last year!!!! if he can be kept injury free and can keep the weight off...hes going to once again be our key man this year....

9.Donal Thomas...done alot of the hard work  in midfield in the first half........battled for everything...will not doubt get another shot against Queens...

10.Michael Cunningham... what  a find...the swad man named man of the match on TG4 was outstanding...kicked 3 or 4 awesome scores from play and his workrate was amazing......could be our first find of the year.

11.Mark McKeever.......outstanding as well....made some great blocks...kicked some good frees,he was involved in everything good Cavan done.

12.Michael Brennan......moved back to Wing back when Rabbite went off...done well i thought...I think it would have made more sense for him to have switched with Johnny Crowe at the start but what do i know?

13.Gerard Pierson.....kicked some good points...But for such a great footballer...he wrecks my head by being behind his man so many times when the ball is played in....was slipping and sliding alot as well....Betters things to come from the Gowna star as the year progresses me thinks...

14.Sean Brady...the UCD star seemed to be playing a withdrawn role...and was in the thick of the action throughout...theres definetely a place for Brady on this Cavan team...whether thats at Full Forward of in the Half forward line i dont know...Kicked a great score.

15.Cian Mackay....Kicked two outstanding points...seems to have bulked up alot from his minor days which is great to see...can overplay the ball at times...But that will leave his game in time...

Subs
Lorcan Mulvey.....Absolutely immense...would have been my choice for man of the match....as you said Anglocelt hes in better condition this year.....Very mobile for such a big man,great workrate,outstanding kicker of a score...and an ignorant f**ker to add :D
i enjoyed watching him run straight through the derry boys leaving them flat on their asses.

Jayo........kicked a marvelous point when he came on,missed two goal scoring chances...but we will forgive him for that......

Not sure if any subs came on,Thought i seen a number 19 or so warming up...didnt recognise him suprisingly...as id have proclaimed myself beforehand as being able to tell who all the panel members were.....


One word of warning of course... we looked far sharper than Derry...id imagine we have 3/4 weeks more hard training done than them,but all in all im alot more optimistic than i was Last night.

anyone agree/disagree with any of my points...
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on January 07, 2007, 08:53:49 PM
I'm breaking open the piggy bank anglocelt39! ;D

Was very happy after today's game. You probably have to allow for the fact that we were way fitter and sharper than Derry at this stage of the season but there were some very encouraging signs:

1. I have never, and I mean never, witnessed such an accurate display of shooting from any Cavan team. Management have obviously worked hard on confidence etc. to the point that we could kick about 0-13 from play in atrocious conditions with new faces aboard. Extremely encouraging.

2. Heart. We never buckled when Derry came back at us before half time and won pulling up. Spirit in the camp seems good judging by the togetherness after final whistle.

3. Work rate. Keogan said it afterwards. We ran ourselves silly on a very tough day. It looks like the guys have really pulled their socks up and are already a world away from the disaffected rabble we watched last year.

4. New players like Cunningham doing well, and Mackey, Sean Brady, McKeever, McCabe, Jayo, Cahill etc. - but hats off to Lorcan Mulvey. f**k me. He was brushing men out of his way like he was swiping cobwebs. Brilliant to see someone with a bit of brute force and ignorance, we've been too f**king nice for too long and someone needed to let that hallion Doherty that he wasn't going to get away with the rough suff. Kicked some nice scores, handled a lot of ball, was a close runner for my man of the match in the end.

Anyway, it's only January and at this stage you couldn't look for much more. With Gaynor, Forde, Gunner to come back into the defence we have the nucleus of a side that at least will give its all and give value if it keeps the attitude right - and that's all we can ask. Rabbitte's injury was a low point but I think it's a hamstring and not the knee thank God, he's an important player for us this year as someone already said. I'd be very worried about the defence if he's not there, we were creaking a bit at times there today especially chesty on Bradley and Fannin struggled at times too - but then again, Bradley does that to all kinds of defenders.
Sure we're off and running anyway and there's encouraging signs. Nothing to get carried away with but at least it looks like we'll be supporting a tuned-in team giving their all and sure that's something anyway. Bigger tests against fitter teams await but if they're busting a gut for the blue shirt then I don't think any of us are going to be too hard on the lads if the results aren't all like today's.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on January 07, 2007, 09:22:56 PM
Alright lads, it was a good performance but lets not get too excited. We were much fitter than Derry on the day and maybe a good bit hungrier too. On the positive side the shooting was good, the work rate was good and we won midfield comfortably. McCabe looking fit was a bit of a shock and good to see, his passing was brilliant today. Also, nice to see a new face doing so well in Michael Cunningham. On the negative Rabbitte going off injured was a blow. It looked like a hamstring so your probably talking 4-6 weeks for that to heal. For me mackey is still too light and is easily bottled up, also he made some poor decisions and held onto the ball a bit too much. Maybe in the good weather he will excel.  Mckeever played well but missed three scorable frees and so we are still struggling for a free taker on the rh side. I know we are also looking for a bit more aggression but don't mistake disent for trying to play the hard man. We were lucky on a few occassions that frees weren't turned against us for silly pushing and messing after the ref has blown. Aggression needs to be channeled correctly and 'after the whistle' aggression just undos good work. All in all a good day and i even had a tenner on cavan at 12-5 on paddy powers.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on January 07, 2007, 09:47:36 PM
Not a bad weekends football for the boys in blue. The u21s beat Roscommon on Saturday 0-13 to 0-08 didn't make it myself but heard it was a convining performance.

Team that started was

1.   ?
2.   Declan Gallen
3.   Padraic O'Reilly
4.   Fergal Slowey
5.   Finbar Jordan
6.   Dermot Sheridan
7.   Cormac Geoghan
8.   John Cunningham
9.   Micheal McDonald
10. Raymond Cullivan
11. Alan Clarke
12. Paraic Smith
13. Martin Reilly
14. Anton Reilly
15. Killian Lynch

Apparently in defense Podge and Slowey cleaned up, McDonald lorded it at midfield (will push for a place on the senior team this year). Martin Reilly looked sharp up front, Clarke played clever but Anton was his usual lazy self (Although he does put it in on the big day).

As regards the senior boys, a fantastic display in bad conditions and as we heard from reports on the Laois challenge match Cavan look a big and physical outfit this year. I think I counted 7 lads today that would usually feature as midfielders.

Walsh
McCabe
Crowe
Thomas
Brennan
S Brady
Mulvey

As mentioned Cunnigham and Mulvey immense. But I would have put my house on Jayo bagging one of those chances. All in all very encouraging stuff.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on January 07, 2007, 10:05:56 PM
Is that a much altered U21 team, there must be a few other first choices to come back on to it?

I must admit I've never heard of this McDonald lad but he has a big reputation alright, can anyone tell me a bit more about him?

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: The Bottom Brick on January 07, 2007, 11:14:06 PM
The McDonald lad is huge, all the way up in underage he was as awkward a footballer as you'd ever see.

Seems to have come on a lot, always had great hands but was very raw. Has he matured enough for the seniors? Time will tell....

On today's match, I'd say the lads are fitter now than they were at championship time last year, which is fantastic.

We still have Johnston, Gunner, Gaynor, Larry (?), Gallagher (?) to come into the team among others... Given that we've avoided the big guns in Ulster, could be an interesting year yet!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on January 08, 2007, 02:25:34 AM
I've have watched McDonald from county u16 up and as Bottom Brick said he use to be very awkward (steering wheel to turn job), We don't play Drumgoon much at club level so I hadn't seen him since minor but he has came on a huge amount and is definite for u21 midfield. He's about 6'4" maybe 5" and well built, I don't know will he make it at senior level this year but if he continues to progress he'll be a fine introduction to the side in the near future.

He kinda reminds me of Ciaran Galligan of Drung who also converted from an awkward lanky lad to a fine footballer two years ago on the u21 team 2 years that lost the Ulster final to Down (but he did drop one short to level it  :'( ). Anyone know why this guy fell of the map?

Geroid Collins is still well off the fitness (Lyng a similar story for the seniors) don't know will he get it back in time. Darragh Gaffeney hasn't turned up this year, pity a very lazy but talented footballer.

Of the team that started on saturday Mackey, Flanagan and Enda McCormack were the bigger names missing.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Maximus Marillius on January 08, 2007, 10:39:08 AM
Lads dont get carried away, ye beat a division one side last year in the first game of the Mc kenna cup, Fermanagh. Mc Cabe played well in the first half, but he hardly was involved the second half apart from frees, which he ran over to take all the time. Yer fitness was very evident in comparsion to Derry, so the posts on this thread about the work they were doing was accurate. Someone was a bit sore on Pearson, thought he gave Mc Guckian a difficult hour. Cavan really wanted to win this game.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: lynchbhoy on January 08, 2007, 10:39:46 AM
from a Cavan perspective the new faces (to me anyhow) and talent they displayed augurs well.
Certainly the attitude has changed. McCabes diet and obv desire to knuckle down speaks volumes in itself.
Mulvey certainly looked good from what I saw of him, might be a touch on the heavy side for a full game on hard ground, but he certainly can contribute.
I think a lot of the old guard can be discarded now. Keoghan's appointment seems to have galvanised Cavan.
That keeper has some kick out ! All over the pitch the workrate, the desire to show for and then win the ball set Cavan apart from previous years (I watched it on telly). New men stepping up and being counted. Thats all that could have been asked of cavan yesterday.
Best of luck this year.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on January 08, 2007, 10:49:53 AM
it was great to see players putting the ball over the bar from out the field for a change!!!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: lynchbhoy on January 08, 2007, 10:54:41 AM
when you see Jason reilly scoring from outside the 21 from the left hand side with such a beautiful score, you know its your day !
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: never kickt a ball on January 08, 2007, 11:41:26 AM
Gallagher on brink of Breffni switch

Monday, January 8

Cavan Senior football manager Donal Keoghan has revealed that it is a matter of days before former Fermanagh footballer Rory Gallagher is an official member of the Breffni panel.

Gallagher is currently training with the Breffni Blues following a number of years living and working in the county.

The 28-year-old's transfer application is being processed by Headquarters at present.

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Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on January 08, 2007, 02:47:00 PM
Anyone know why Sean Brady was playing for Cavan yesterday and not UCD?

Also was Hannon playing for DIT in the win over Longford (I think he's still in college there) if so how did he get on?

Does anyone know of any other Cavan players that may have been involved with colleges other than Jelly, Flanagan, Cullivan (DCU) and Podge (NUIG)?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on January 08, 2007, 02:51:36 PM
I dont know how many of you were at the McKenna Cup game with Fermanagh last year.... but McCabe was in very good physical condition like he is now...and lorded it at Midfield that day...Then he got injured for most of the league and put the weight on that hampered him last year
I hope to God he can stay injury free this year.....
The Cunningham family from swad will be well represented on the county this year...
Michael on the seniors
John on the under 21's
and Mark on the minors...
i wonder has that been done before in Cavan...
Homer
Ciaran Galligan as his fellow Drungman Cavan4ever can tell you has had an awful time with injuries.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on January 08, 2007, 03:01:03 PM
I know he picked up injuries just after that u21 final and missed last year because of it, but didn't realise he was still on the sick bed. A pity as he always gave 100% commitment to the cause. Don't think he even drinks just because of football.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on January 08, 2007, 03:05:15 PM
with the injuries hes had,id say it will take him til the summer to recover his fitness.... wouldnt be suprised to see him brought into the county panel at a later stage...especially with the championships likely to start earlier this year which will give him ample time and chances to impress.
very strong looking under 21 team even with it missing a few key players.....
Very strong Full back line...
Ive been Raving about McDonald on here for the last few months....as you guys said probably too raw for the county seniors this year...but a definite on the under 21's in my opinion.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on January 08, 2007, 03:08:23 PM
He had groin injury and missed most of last year. He was also ill for a while which prob came from doing to much training.  He is a good club footballer but def not a county senior midfielder at the moment.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on January 08, 2007, 03:13:47 PM
Perhaps not and you know his potential and /or shortcomings better than any of us mate but with the way of Keoghan using Johnny Crowe,Nicko Walsh,Michael Brennan and Mulvey when he came on(all midfield type players) in other positions...there could be a place for him in the half forward line.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on January 08, 2007, 03:16:14 PM
I wouldn't have him midfield anyway, a wing-forward I rekon is his most likely position.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on January 08, 2007, 03:30:06 PM
yeah true keoghan is expermenting with alot of midfielders in different positions, but i reckon there are alot of lads ahead of him.  Nobody will try harder than him anyway.  It's good 2 see some big men playing for cavan thats what is needed. 
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on January 08, 2007, 10:43:48 PM
It's amazing how one win with a bit of style and passion lifts the mood! But remember lads, it's only January and we're clearly very fit which tilts the balance our way quite alot at this stage of the year. Lots to be positive about for sure, but let's keep the ould feet on the ground and cast our minds back to how low we sunk last year - alot of hard work still to be done and there'll surely be some bad days as well as good supporting this team in the next few months.

But sure we can smile for now anyway.

This Donal Thomas lad - looks a big bruiser but not sure he'll make the summer cut based on Sunday even though it's very early to judge him...is he a Denn man or where did he come from?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on January 08, 2007, 10:58:06 PM
Donal Thomas is from Killygarry nice footballer and a nice fella but don't think he's up to the standard come championship.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on January 09, 2007, 12:25:28 PM
Millers Back  ;D ;D ;D

Former All-Star nominee goalkeeper James Reilly has rejoined the Cavan senior football squad.

Ahead of the Breffni Blues' second round McKenna Cup clash with Queens University at Kingspan/Breffni Park on Sunday next, Reilly's return will come as a boost to new Cavan boss Donal Keoghan.

Reilly is due to attend training tonight (Tuesday), thus ending his decision to opt out of football for 2007.

The 24 year old was nominated for an All-Star award in 2005, when Martin McElkennon was in charge of Cavan, but lost out to Diarmuid Murphy for the gong.

The expert shot-stopper was instrumental in helping Cavan reach the last 12 of the All-Ireland SFC in '05 and has reacted positively to Donal Keoghan's overtures.

-From the hoganstand
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Blue06 on January 09, 2007, 12:29:21 PM
I see on Aertel next weekends match with Queens has a 6:30 start Saturday evening.

Should be a decent crowd following the Sundays positive start to the new year.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on January 09, 2007, 01:10:42 PM
Bit of a turnaround by Reilly but good to have him back - provided he does the training. He looked a bit out of shape and disinterested last year after a superb debut season the year before.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: The Bottom Brick on January 09, 2007, 03:06:35 PM
who was in goal for the cavan under 21s last saturday anyone know?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on January 09, 2007, 03:10:39 PM
I think I heard it was Andrew Smith of Cornafean.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: The Bottom Brick on January 09, 2007, 03:20:34 PM
oh right. what club does geoghan play for? and this padraig smith fella?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on January 09, 2007, 03:24:42 PM
Geoghan is another Cornafean man (don't think either of these boys will be required in March) and Pariac 'Lukey' Smith is from Castlerahen.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on January 09, 2007, 04:42:57 PM
Good start to the season for U-21 side

Cavan U-2 footballers started the new season in impressive fashion when on Saturday 6th January at Our Lady of Lourdes Park in Mullahoran they defeated Roscommon in the opening round of this season's Hastings Cup competition, winning a very competitive game on a scoreline of 0-13 to 0-9.

The home side started the game in determined fashion and after almost 20 minutes play were ahead by 0-4 to 0-1. Roscommon came more into the game in the second-quarter and at the break they trailed by two points 0-6 to 0-4.

Cavan continued to dominate at the start of the second-half and although the Roscommon side rallied in the closing ten minutes the Cavan side were always in command and held out for a deserved four points win.

Cavan's next game in this competition is against Longford in Dromard, Co. Longford on this (Saturday) at 12 noon, and the Breffni side will be hoping to build on their winning start.

Cavan – Andrew Smith; Declan Gallon, Paraic Reilly, Fergal Slowey; Finbar Jordan, Dermot Sheridan, Cormac Geoghegan; Michael McDonald (0-1), John Cunningham (0-2); Ray Cullivan (0-6), Alan Clarke, Paraic Smith; Martin Reilly (0-2), Anton Reilly, Cillian Lynch (0-1).
Subs – A. Duignan (0-1) for C. Lynch, R. Galligan for John Cunningham, G. Collins for P. Smith, A. Taite for A. Reilly.

Roscommon – J. Martin; Paul Gleeson, Tom Bannon, Peter Dornian; Sean Higgins, Declan Murphy, David Keenan (0-1); James McDermott (0-2), Emmett Rush; Enda Malley, Brian Lynch, Aaron McEvoy; Aidan Dooley (0-4), Harry Nolan (0-1), Daragh Hussey.
Subs – James Callery (0-1) for Daragh Hussey.

-hoganstand
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on January 09, 2007, 05:08:23 PM
Did cullivan score most of them from play or free's?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on January 10, 2007, 11:34:37 AM
Dunno what Cullivan scored from play or not, but he is the left footed free taker alright. I see from the hoganstand he was playing wing half forward for DCU against the Dubs he didn't score and was taken off. Jelly scored 4 (3 from play) at centre-half forward, haven't seen him play there before

http://www.hoganstand.com/ArticleForm.aspx?ID=70856

actually according to gaa page Cullivan went off after 40 mins and came back on at 50 mins for another player (assuming there is no other Cullivans on the panel that is).

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Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on January 10, 2007, 11:36:09 AM
Gallagher transfers to Breffni County

The transfer of former Fermanagh star Rory Gallagher to Cavan has been successfully completed, and the star forward may even start against Queens in next weekend's Gaelic Life Dr McKenna Cup clash.

The Breffni Blues take on Queens University Belfast in a Section B tie at Kingspan Breffni Park under floodlights on Saturday evening (throw-in 6.30pm).

28-year-old Gallagher is currently playing his club football with Dublin outfit St Brigid's but he is expected to join a club in Cavan over the coming weeks.

Meanwhile, new Breffni County manager Donal Keoghan will be without Darren Rabbite after the full back damaged his hamstring in the defeat of Derry last weekend at Celtic Park.

Better news for Keoghan is Michael Lyng's return to training after a long-term injury, Anthony Forde's return from honeymoon and James Reilly's commitment to the Senior panel for 2007.

-from gaa.ie

Also look at the thumbnail of miller beside his comeback story on www.gaa.ie (http://www.gaa.ie) I don't know how he gets away with so many foot-blocks.  :P
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on January 10, 2007, 11:45:34 AM
If everyone stays fit it looks like there will be a battle on for places in the team which hopefully will bring the best out of the lads.  What's your views on these saturday evening games ? 
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on January 10, 2007, 12:22:35 PM
Haven't been to a floodlit match in Breffni yet so looking forward to this weekends game, can't really give a general opinion until after that. Queens have a very good side with players of the calibre of Derry's Ger O'Kane, Armagh's Charlie Vernon, Down's Joe Ireland. I'd expect them to be tougher than Derry.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on January 10, 2007, 12:52:13 PM
I wonder will they switch the Tyrone game to a Saturday evening throw-in as well if much of a crowd turns up and we win this one? I'll be knocking about the homestead that weekend it'd be good gas to watch us play Tyrone under lights.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: ludermor on January 11, 2007, 02:58:06 PM
i see that Gallagher has signed for crosserlough would they be a club with cash? Is he 'living' near there? As far as i know he is still working in dublin
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on January 11, 2007, 03:38:10 PM
Crosserlough were a onetime major club in Cavan, won a pile of SFC in a row back in the 60s but nothing since. Are always at senior level and make alot of underage finals too, but I think the story is that Gallagher was supposed to be running a pub in that area as well (in this thread somewhere I think).

It's hard to see Crosserlough making an impact at senior level in future championships, with or without Rory Gallagher.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Border Fox on January 11, 2007, 05:35:10 PM
Well Ky auvin men,

I was just wondering how came Mick Brides (Redhill) is off the panel?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on January 11, 2007, 06:24:00 PM
Quote from: cavanmaniac on January 11, 2007, 03:38:10 PM
Crosserlough were a onetime major club in Cavan, won a pile of SFC in a row back in the 60s but nothing since. Are always at senior level and make alot of underage finals too, but I think the story is that Gallagher was supposed to be running a pub in that area as well (in this thread somewhere I think).

It's hard to see Crosserlough making an impact at senior level in future championships, with or without Rory Gallagher.

would disagree about Crosserlough not making an impact in future championships...they done very poor last year,But that hides the great talent that is within that club.....
Ollie Costello,Dermot Cronin,Mark Lynch,Thomas McEvoy,Johnny Crowe,Pauric McKiernan,Declan McCabe. Declan Gaffney and and John Lyng (Mickeys brother)are all good footballers,   Enda Gaffney is a superstar in the making....and now with Gallagher...the sky is the limit
Not sure if Michael O Rourke is still about he was a very good footballer...
There is a heap of talent in that club...It will just take the right manager to sort them out
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on January 11, 2007, 06:30:33 PM
Quote from: Border Fox on January 11, 2007, 05:35:10 PM
Well Ky auvin men,

I was just wondering how came Mick Brides (Redhill) is off the panel?

Bottom Brick being a clubmate of his could surely tell you......

Hes been fucked about by the county for the last 5 years.......Under Mattie Kerrigan he was developing into one of the best half backs in Ulster.....
Not two years later the knobjockeys in charge were bringing him on at wing forward for the last few minutes of the games.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Rossi on January 11, 2007, 06:35:14 PM
Bottom Brick

heard a rumour that Brides was transferring to a club in Dublin,  any truth in this ?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: The Bottom Brick on January 12, 2007, 01:05:10 AM
It's still all up in the air lads. Lot of politics going on.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on January 12, 2007, 09:03:58 AM
Why does he wanna leave redhills anyway?  He is not a very good club man because he wanted to transfer away from them when he first was on county panel.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on January 12, 2007, 10:59:11 AM
Brides must hold some sort of record for never kicking a ball and playing inter-county football. I reckon he never 100% recovered from the leg break down in Limerick a few years back, at least his performances never got to the same heights since. I also seen him play for redhills a few times recently enough and he didn't really shine as a county player. Pity.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on January 12, 2007, 11:26:12 AM
B'haise man...you hit the nail on the head. Crosserlough have had minor teams that have figured at the sharp end of the Minor A championship for a decade and a half but always came short...generally running into the sharp propellers of the Gaels on their record breaking underage run. Still, it would suggest that some very good players have passed through the hands of the mentors down in Kilnaleck, only for nothing of any note to be achieved at senior level.

Look at Martin Donohoe, a star at minor for club and county, played international rules for Ireland (I think I have the right guy here, someone can correct me if not) and was well on the road to being a top player. Now he's shuffling around for Crosserlough Junior Bs I think. There's been too many players like this down the 'Lough way and a succession of bad managers hasn't helped. I don't see it changing anytime soon with teams like Gaels around either...but if they got their act together they'd certainly be competitive.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on January 12, 2007, 11:59:12 AM
To add on Brides, he looked a helluva prospect then he came on the scene first but I think he was a Val Andrews discovery, not Mattie Kerrigan - because as we all know, fat Matt basically recruited from the U21 sides rather than bother his hole seeking talent anywhere around the county. Open to correction there as always, but don't let the facts get in the way of a dig at Mattie Kerrigan is what I always say. :D

There was great cutting in him, lots of guts, very like Martin Cahill in his tigerish ways. But the leg break finished him completely. His angle of running was way off after it, he seemed to be throwing his leg out when he sprinted and had lost alot of pace. Shame really as he looked to have alot of potential.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Border Fox on January 12, 2007, 12:09:38 PM
Quote from: cavanmaniac on January 12, 2007, 11:59:12 AM
There was great cutting in him, lots of guts, very like Martin Cahill in his tigerish ways. But the leg break finished him completely. His angle of running was way off after it, he seemed to be throwing his leg out when he sprinted and had lost alot of pace. Shame really as he looked to have alot of potential.

I went to school with him, and he made the senior cup rugby team in 6th year, more through guts than ability, he was one of those lads who always punched above his weight. He would have worked hard at building himself up, and on his pace. The brother Declan probably would have had more natural ability,  but always seemed to be injured at school.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on January 13, 2007, 03:04:45 PM
u21s beat Longford today 1-10 to 1-7 team was

Andrew Smith
Emmet Madden
Padraic O'Reilly
Fergal Slowey
Finbar Jordan
Dermot Sheridan
Cormac Geoghan
Pauric Smith
Micheal McDonald
Martin Reilly
Alan Clarke
Anton Reilly
Killian Lynch
Sean McCormack
Raymond Galligan

Smith was at fault for goal, Madden played very poor gave away alot of frees taken off, Fergal Slowey was very good,  Martin Reilly scroed 1-5 nice player, Clarke played well had a very nasty knock at the end may have cracked the knee.

Poor game in awful conditions, lucky to pull through in the end.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on January 13, 2007, 03:51:16 PM
Homer
i guess its about time the management called Terry Smith up for goals.... why hasnt he been called?
Sean McCormack at full forward  :o
Christ the boy has played in just about every position for us ,Trinity or the county bar Goalkeeper in the last year....
did he get on well?

Id say
when Enda McCormack gets back from injury....
that full back line of Slowey, Podge and him will be set...
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on January 13, 2007, 04:42:21 PM
McCormack was lost at full forward, taken off before half time. I don't know what they were expecting of him.

Terry Smith won't go in as far as I know.

Raymond Galligan should be the keeper come championship great kickout and a fine goalie, if he doesn't make it outfield anyway.

On the mickey brides subject, the lad has never recovered from that injury you only have to watch him run, his leg doesn't move right at all. He still has decent pace but nothing compared to what he had.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: never kickt a ball on January 13, 2007, 08:09:00 PM
cavan beat QUB by 2pts tonight in McKenna cup
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on January 13, 2007, 09:50:04 PM
What sort of team had we out I wonder? Hopefully we got a few more minutes into some of the new lads.

I guess this shows that against a team with a good bit of fitness work done, we have our work cut out? Maybe. Hard to read the form at this time of the year. All that's certain is that we have to keep the heads down and keep working, should be an interesting game with the Tyronies next week.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on January 13, 2007, 10:03:37 PM
well as theres training early tommorow...no night out for me... went into freezing Breffini Park,im sure some of you were there as well...so il give my opinions and ratings out of 10 for each player....  Cavan 1-13 Queens 1-11

1.Colm Anderson....Kickouts were ok...the wind was horrible though......im not sure of his abilities under the high ball to be honest...dropped one down and luckily had enough time to grab it again..... 6

2.Martin Cahill....gave away a few stupid frees in the first half but improved dramatically in the second half of the first half and in the second half...drove forward at every oppertunity and kicked a great score in the second half on his left foot. 8

3.Thomas Corr... the Denn man was taken off after 25 minutes...gave the ball away a few times but didnt do anything particularly wrong...wasnt involved in the game very much as Kevin Niblock pulled him out to the half forward line to leave a 2 man full forward line...wasnt on long enough to give a rating..

4.Keith Fannin....Loose like cahill in the early stages,and picked up an unreal amount of ball throughout...Hardworking if nothing spectacular. 7

5.Eamon Reily... Chesty started off fairly sluggishly but grew more confident as the game went on...Looked alot more at home in the half back line than when he was switched into the Full back line against Derry...
His driving Runs up the stand side in the second half were the catalyst to much of Cavans good play. 7

6.Nicholas Walsh....Started at CHB but seemed to be playing around the middle..One marvelous catch in the second half...worked tirelessly throughout...distribution was top class...put himself about a bit and had a bit of a running battle with Charlie Vernon at times...One of Cavans better performers on the day. 8

7.Jonatan Crowe...The Crosserlough man is growing into the half back line...does all the basics correct...always seems to get a hand in to break up a play when he shouldnt,lacking a bit of pace,but when hes lighter and fitter in the summer,wont look out of place at Inter County level....i still think hed be more useful in the forwards though. 7

8.Donal Thomas...tried hard, broke up alot of posession,done the basics right,but not really an impact player....as Brick said..hes not an Inter County Midfielder in my opinion...a good player nonetheless wa sreplaced after about 30 minutes so cant really rate him.

9.Dermot McCabe...f**ked about in Midfield,done little seemingly was hobbling and moved into Full Forward,were he proceeded to roast Daniel McCartan,scored the penalty and set up a few of Pearsons scores. 8

10.Michael Brennan...not a forward...taken off after about 23/24 minutes....needs a chance to claim his position in the backline.

11.Mark McKeever...Kicked a few frees over...and generally worked very hard getting in a few blocks and tackling back well....its good to see hes added this to his game as his wonderful footballing ability is beyond doubt. 8

12.Michael Cunningham...started brightly...won a few frees in the first half by running at the Queens Defence..then went out of the game abit.....Along with Crowe...Hes one of the newcomers that looks that he can have an impact at this level...... 6

13.Cian Mackey....fairly good game,not sure if he got on the scoreline but worked hard..... replaced in the second half 6

14 Sean Brady..... switched with McCabe and was playing Midfield for most of the game...Dont think he has the size for Intercounty Midfield...but held his own nonetheless..nothing spectacular but done ok. 7

15 Gerard Pearson....i criticised him after the Derry game for being behind his man too often...well he was outstanding tonight from frees and from play...showed very well...and tormented one of the Queens Cornerbacks...... scored 7 points i believe with 3 or 4 of them from play. 8

Subs
Lorcan Mulvey for Michael Brennan....Caught a good ball in the first half but looked lost at wing forward...place for him is midfield....done ok though 7

Anthony Forde for Thomas Corr....Forde made many timely interventions when he came on....tackled very well....One of Cavans better players on the night. 8

Paul Brady  for Donal Thomas...had a very good game, made a big difference when he came on,Carried the ball forward and tackled well. 8

Jason Reily for Cian Mackey...dont think he touched the ball at all

Rory Gallagher for Gerard Pearson...kicked a marvelous point...not very fit looking but wouldnt be worried about that


it was a poor game in poor conditions...Queens started to take control after about 20 minutes and fair play to the Management,They
made two key switched bringing on Gunner and Forde and it paid off....
Looking forward to the game against Tyrone in Breffini next Saturday night at 6.30
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on January 15, 2007, 10:19:01 AM
ballyhaiseman i though that mackey had a very poor game and don't think he is worth his place.  He would be better off with the U-21's and i can't understand why he isn't playing for them.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Rossi on January 15, 2007, 11:17:18 AM
Ballyhaiseman,disagree with you on Jason,only on for a short time but won 2 or 3 scoreable frees in that time.Mackey,not up to it in these conditions,maybe will make a bigger impact with a drier sod but as Cavan4ever states should be with the U21's.


Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on January 15, 2007, 12:38:24 PM
Indeed why wasnt he playing for the under 21's in the Hastings Cup....  :-\
In my opinion when everyones fit and competing for spots...he wont get his place on the Senior team anyway.
wouldnt be suprised to see Gallagher get a starting spot Saturday night,although he didnt look terribely fit when he was tracking back.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on January 15, 2007, 02:08:09 PM
Yip, agree that Mackey was poor. It is too soon for him and I am also not sure if he has the brain for this level at the moment. He reminds me of Larry Reilly. I also thought Eamonn Reilly was poor. Dire passing from him and loose marking. The rest of the team were only average with the exception of Forde and Pierson.

Saying that I did say last week that we shouldn't read too much into the win over Derry and likewise we shouldn't read to much into this. I do think we will do well to stay withing 5 points of Tyrone who tore Derry apart yesterday.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on January 15, 2007, 02:18:29 PM
what did u thing of jonathon crowe i though he played quiet well?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on January 15, 2007, 08:10:49 PM
I find Crowe doesn't make much impact and for the most part he seems to let the game pass him by.

As Myles and Rossi have said theres no point in playing Mackey at this stage of the year he's a dry sod player. Similar to Killian Lynch playing with the u21s, its just not gonna happen. The defence was quite shaky especially in the last ten minutes.

Anyway according to the hoganstand it would seem the Tyrone game is gonna be postponed, due to the reprocusions pending on Mickey Harte and his crew.

http://www.hoganstand.com/ArticleForm.aspx?ID=71160
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: lynchbhoy on January 16, 2007, 09:13:50 AM
looked like a decent turn out at Cavan training last night
I counted 31 or 32
No sign of Gaynor though
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Rossi on January 16, 2007, 10:44:34 AM
I actually thought Crowe played well enough also.Was strong going for the ball and distribution wasn't too bad.Did anyone feel that when McCabe went to full forward in the second half that Cavan stopped playing football and were content to hit long hopeful (50/50) balls into McCabe.Hopefully this isn't going to be the trend for the year.

Has Sean Brady finished in UCD? also qestion for Ballyhaiseman, S McCormack came on as a sub for DIT at the weekend,would this be your clubman? 
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on January 16, 2007, 12:02:15 PM
Rossi
No as far as im aware S McCormack is playing Trench Cup for Trinity....so unless theres some rule that you can play Trench for one college and Sigerson for another i dont think it could be him.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: LaurelEye on January 16, 2007, 12:11:23 PM
Quote from: Rossialso qestion for Ballyhaiseman, S McCormack came on as a sub for DIT at the weekend,would this be your clubman?

That would be Seán McCormack of Longford.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on January 16, 2007, 12:23:31 PM
Quote from: lynchbhoy on January 16, 2007, 09:13:50 AM
looked like a decent turn out at Cavan training last night
I counted 31 or 32
No sign of Gaynor though

Lynchbhoy
where were they training?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: lynchbhoy on January 16, 2007, 12:25:42 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on January 16, 2007, 12:23:31 PM
Quote from: lynchbhoy on January 16, 2007, 09:13:50 AM
looked like a decent turn out at Cavan training last night
I counted 31 or 32
No sign of Gaynor though

Lynchbhoy
where were they training?
St. Brigids Castleknock/Blanchardstown new all weather pitch
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on January 16, 2007, 12:27:23 PM
ahhh im guessing  that was a mixture of Under 21's and Seniors based in Dublin and that there was another Session in Cavan for the home based players..
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on January 16, 2007, 12:29:38 PM
A freezing cold night in January when everyone else is at the fire, and the bould Lynchboy is off on clandestine manoeuvres hiding in a hedge taking notes on the Cavan footballers. I worry about you Lynchboy I really do...

Actually, could this be construed as a form of GAA dogging?

"Sorry Donal, I was just, erm, ahem, cough, cough, walking the ould dog....";D

Only joking my friend. :P

Did you see anything interesting itself?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: lynchbhoy on January 16, 2007, 12:42:47 PM
Quote from: cavanmaniac on January 16, 2007, 12:29:38 PM
A freezing cold night in January when everyone else is at the fire, and the bould Lynchboy is off on clandestine manoeuvres hiding in a hedge taking notes on the Cavan footballers. I worry about you Lynchboy I really do...

Actually, could this be construed as a form of GAA dogging?

"Sorry Donal, I was just, erm, ahem, cough, cough, walking the ould dog....";D

Only joking my friend. :P

Did you see anything interesting itself?

I happened to be there for another reason for a while.
I only saw them arrive out onto the pitch and the only people I recognised were McCabe and I think Pierson
All in woolly hats and bulky warm training gear, which I thought was odd in itself as it wasnt a cold night at all as I hobbled about in my t shirt

I left as they were warming up.
It could have been the senior panel as the floodlit all weather pitch is a lot easier to train a team on and even do decent ball work rather than slogging wastefully around a mucky field
as I couldnt identify nearly all of them , I cant really comment much
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on January 16, 2007, 06:17:36 PM
In answer to Lynchboys statement yhat there was no sign of Gaynor, hasn't he gone to Australia for a few months.  Hopefully not for a Aussie Rules trial as I think Aussie Rules woulld be to his taste.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: The Bottom Brick on January 16, 2007, 07:07:28 PM
Gaynor's home as far as I know
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on January 16, 2007, 09:22:55 PM
Gaynor's home since last Wednesday alright, haven't been talking to him so don't know if he has gone back into the county or what.  ???
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: lynchbhoy on January 16, 2007, 09:26:20 PM
Quote from: Homer on January 16, 2007, 09:22:55 PM
Gaynor's home since last Wednesday alright, haven't been talking to him so don't know if he has gone back into the county or what.  ???
right if I see the lads training next week, I'll tell keoghan that Gaynor said he's a fat old has been who serves bad beer and he doesnt want to come back on the panel

(Keoghan will undoubtedly say that both Gaynors butchers serve fare worse than dog meat)


I'm sure he'll be back training shortly
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on January 16, 2007, 10:27:54 PM
New League & Championship Proposals

New proposals will shake things up a bit, some resistance from Junior Clubs as usual but PRO had all the answers for them and got it through unanimous after a excellent presentation.

All County Football Leagues 2007

ACFL to comprise of 6 Divisions (1-6)
Divisions 4, 5 & 6 would be the current reserve teams
Promotion and relegation through each of the divisions
The top two teams in each division to play in league final
Bottom two teams relegated in Divisions 1 & 2
One team relegated in Division 3, 4 & 5
One team promoted in Divisions 4, 5 & 6
14 teams to play in divisions 1, 2 & 3 as per 2006 season

Championship Football:

Senior, Intermediate & Junior Championships to return to a knockout basis
Backdoor qualifying system for the 1st round losers
In the case of the Senior & Intermediate Championships, 7 teams go into the backdoor for one quarter-final position.
In the Junior Championship, 6 teams go into the backdoor for 2 quarter-final positions.
In the Senior and Intermediate qualifier, one team will get a bye to the second round with 3 games taking place in the first round.
In the junior championship backdoor first round, 3 winners go forward to play each other for 2 quarter-final places.

Junior B, C & D Competitions to be run in place of Reserve Championships
Junior B, C & D Competitions to be run on a knockout basis

Relegation

The 3 teams that lose the first round backdoor qualifiers in Senior & Intermediate will go into a relegation play-off.

There will be no relegation in the Junior Championship


- taken from the hoganstand message board
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on January 16, 2007, 11:45:12 PM
Quote from: lynchbhoy on January 16, 2007, 09:26:20 PM
Quote from: Homer on January 16, 2007, 09:22:55 PM
Gaynor's home since last Wednesday alright, haven't been talking to him so don't know if he has gone back into the county or what.  ???
right if I see the lads training next week, I'll tell keoghan that Gaynor said he's a fat old has been who serves bad beer and he doesnt want to come back on the panel

He could say far worse and still not be wrong!

I'm sure it's only a matter of time before he comes back he just needs to recharge his batteries I'd say after a hectic enough old season for club and county.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on January 17, 2007, 11:01:31 AM
is the tyrone game going ahead sat nite, any news anywhere from the ulster council meeting last nite??
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: The Bottom Brick on January 17, 2007, 11:13:16 AM
Yeah it's going ahead!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: CavanCola on January 17, 2007, 11:45:39 AM
Tyrone's McKenna Cup game to go ahead
Wednesday, 17 January 2007 11:11 
   


Micky Harte's Tyrone team have been given the green light to face Cavan this weekend 

Tyrone's Dr McKenna Cup game is to go ahead on Saturday after a compromise was reached between the county board and the Ulster Council.

The Red Hands will meet Cavan under the Breffni Park floodlights without the four students who have been at the centre of a storm for the past fortnight.

But Tyrone will still face an Ulster Council investigation into their use of the players in breach of a Dr McKenna Cup regulation which gives the universities first call on players.


A specially convened meeting of the council on Tuesday evening ended with a decision to invite the Tyrone board to answer a charge of breaching competition rules.

No date has been fixed for the hearing, but Tyrone's successful request for this weekend's game to go ahead - minis UUJ trio Colm Cavanagh, Brendan Boggs and Damien McCaul, as well as Cathal McCarron of St Mary's - means the competition can proceed without delay.

'The Tyrone county committee will be contesting the alleged infraction put to us by the Ulster Council, but in the interest of the competition, we will not be playing the students against Cavan on Saturday, so that the Cavan game can proceed,' said county chairman Pat Darcy in a brief statement.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on January 18, 2007, 12:31:39 PM
Any team news for saturday night??
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: FermPundit on January 18, 2007, 01:49:31 PM
What reaction did Rory Gallagher get when he came on last Saturday night?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on January 18, 2007, 03:17:37 PM
he got the same as any other sub that came on a bit of applause.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on January 18, 2007, 04:44:28 PM
i thought Gallagher was cheered very loud when he came on....
Pearson who he replaced then got a loud cheer as he was making his way into the dugout.....
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: C-na-G on January 18, 2007, 06:52:17 PM
Any chance of Martin Reilly getting a run for the seniors? Seams to be in great form for the u -21s, Serious talent.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on January 19, 2007, 03:33:33 PM
He should stay with the U-21's for now anyway.  If he keeps up the form he could get a run with the senior's towards the end of the league.  It's good to see him back anyway.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Rossi on January 19, 2007, 03:45:36 PM
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Quote
Quote from: C-na-G on January 18, 2007, 06:52:17 PM
Any chance of Martin Reilly getting a run for the seniors? Seams to be in great form for the u -21s, Serious talent.

Agree that he's a serious talent but I think he would be better off playing at least a  full season with Killgarry seniors before he joins the county senior squad.The same applies to a lot of our young talent ,they should all get at least a year or two senior football experience with their clubs before they are put on the county senior squad.It's a big step up from minor/U21 to senior and players should be given a chance to adjust.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Rollout on January 19, 2007, 03:46:00 PM
Check out

http://cavan.handball.gaa.ie

for informatiion on the M.Donnelly/MyHomeDubai.com/Envirogreen Ulster Handball Open. Gunner is favourite to win. Although rumour has it he'll be playin a league match that week end too.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on January 21, 2007, 03:16:13 PM
well last Night brought us back to earth..... my ratings/analysis

1.Eoin Elliot... Kickouts poor..even if there was a strong breeze...had very little else to do... 6

2.Martin Cahill.......Given the run around by Nial Gormley/Christy Calhoun... improved as the game went on. 6

3.Keith Fannin....Roasted by Paul Rouse the big 6'2 targetman from Brackaville.....switched off him after about 20 minutes...wasnt his best game for Cavan... 6

4.Anthony Forde....Fouled alot was moved in to mark Rouse and also got an absolute roasting,never seen him so poor in a Cavan Shirt... ah well its early in the year... 6

5.Paul Brady.... worked hard....was up against it though as the Tyrone midfield and half backs drove forward...very little he could do. 7

6.Mark McKeever....looked absolutely wrecked...must have been training hard all week... was replaced. 6

7.Jonathon Crowe...the Cavan man of the match in my opinion scored a great point in the second half,battled for everything, was strong,hit all around him and as before didnt look out of place at this level. 8

8.Lorcan Mulvey..... Caught a couple of Good Balls...but done very little else...had next to no support as McCabe was atrocious.. 6

9.Dermot McCabe....wasnt fit to walk,must have been training hard Friday Night, Moved into full forward and done nothing there either... 6

10.Martin Reily......showed flashes of his outstanding ability..also showed flashes of his inexperience as he gave the ball away a fair bit when under pressure......probably too early for him...but will be star for Cavan in the coming years. 6

11.Larry Reily....a noticeabely slimmer Larry Tried hard,but many times he found himself up against 2/3 Tyrone defenders....taken off in the second half. 6

12.Michael Cunningham...one of Cavans better performers...moved the ball at speed...is a very good ball carrier....showed versitility in moving to midfield for the second half...7

13.Gerard Pierson....Tried hard, was very accurate from frees...but the service was putrid compared to the quick direct ball which the Tyrone forwards got. 7

14 Sean Brady...switched to the midfield area with McCabe...Anonymous for a large part...Struggled with Sean Kavanagh as Kavanagh gave him a tour of every blade of grass in Breffini. 6

15. Rory Gallagaher...poor.. very sluggish looking....didnt impact the game at all...replaced at half time. 6

subs...

Jason Reily...got stuck in...chased and battled for every ball.. 6

Cian Mackey...carried the ball well in the last 10 minutes and was one of the main instigators of the late Cavan fightback...carrying the ball at speed against a tired Tyrone Defence...

Eamon Reily... Chesty was brought on at half time...battled hard and got stuck in....but had little impact unfortunately. 6

Michael McDonald...brought on late in the game...wasnt on long enough to rate...

Nicko Walsh....brought on at as a targetman and caught and knocked down some great balls...Hes a definite option in there for the championship.

analysis....

if any of you seen the Tyrone/Derry game last week,you would know one of Tyrones main tactic was to kick the high ball into their new targetman Paul Rouse who is about 6'2  and a great fielder and scoretaker.... what was Cavans response... to try two men Keith Fannin/Anthony Forde...about 5'9 or 5'10 on him... He roasted both of them...what the Management were at,i dont know...
Cavan werent all that bad around the Centre field area and got their fair share of possesion however the service into the forwards was atrocious...balls being kicked high into an struggling McCabe favouring defenders...and balls being kicked towards the cornerflag...
There was no direction to our play... in comparison everytime Tyrone broke forward there was always something on.

I wouldnt be worried though...It was blatently obvious  that the Cavan team were tired out there....they were probably fucked from their hard training session the night before.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on January 21, 2007, 11:47:11 PM
The main thing is we should have another game in this competition I think? Getting more games into these guys is what's important at the moment and this defeat is no harm to puncture any delusional expectations that might have been swelling after beating Derry in such fine style.

Things are always either looking brilliant or brutal with our supporters and no in between, so getting a reality check like this is no harm at all.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on January 22, 2007, 11:48:11 AM
it's no shame losing to Tyrone anyway. They are going to go close enough to the all-ireland this year.  There must be some competition in their squad for places.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on January 22, 2007, 12:59:59 PM
Tyrone have shocking strength in depth...Paul Rouse and Christy Calhoun who i never heard of before Saturday were outstanding
However Cavan were missing a fair few players that will be on the team in May IMO

Miller
Michael Hannon
Gaynor
Rabbitte
Jelly
Lyng...but im probably being too optimistic about him being back in time for May

anyone know how the under 21's got on against Letrim on Saturday, what team they played and who played well etc?

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on January 22, 2007, 02:37:52 PM
The Indo has the Undie 21 result down as Cavan 0-11 Leitrim 0-7, with Roscommon 4-11 Longford 2-8 the other result. Will take a few days for word on team lineouts etc. to filter out I'd say but so far so good for this particular team anyway, even if our strong performances in the competition have counted for little once the main championship business got underway in recent years. Who's managing the U21s can anyone tell me, is it Keogan or someone else?

I also see we don't have a further game in the McKenna Cup as we didn't finish as one of the best runner-ups. Ah well. It was a very useful exercise and we can get the planning going for the crunch league opener against Meath. It's an awful shame this hasn't been moved to the Sunday so we could catch the Dublin Tyrone game on TV and attend this spicy local derby as well...
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Handball Ace on January 22, 2007, 02:44:36 PM
The U 21's have the same management team as seniors
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on January 22, 2007, 02:52:47 PM
Yeah true enough cavanmaniac it would have been good to be able to see both games.  Alot of our league games are on saturdays now aswell which is alright but it was always gud to have a league game on a sunday to go to. 
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on January 22, 2007, 03:11:11 PM
i think Thomas Jackson is involved in the under 21's but not the seniors?  ???

will we be missing Gunner for the Meath Match...if hes playing Handball in the big tournament thats starting in Kingscourt soon?

what we got out of the McKenna cup in my opinion is the knowledge that two new players we tried Crowe and Cunningham are fit for this level.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on January 22, 2007, 03:28:09 PM
Jackson has been along the line the at last two senior games.  He wasn't suposed to be involved from what i heard at start of year. 
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Handball Ace on January 22, 2007, 04:28:06 PM
The M Donnelly/My Home Dubai/Envirogreen Ulster Open will be on the weekend 10-11 Feb, the same weekend Cavan play Wicklow. Id say Brady will play both football and handball.

Any of the Cavan supporters on here intending to come and watch the top ten handballers on the planet getting whupped by a Cavan man?!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on January 22, 2007, 04:37:38 PM
Is it a really big tournament??
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Handball Ace on January 22, 2007, 04:46:28 PM
The biggest in the history of the sport.

Bigger than the World Championships even.

Check http://cavan.handball.gaa.ie  for the details

Here's the press release:

World Class Handball Tournament Launch

The Kingscourt Handball Club have announced the details of the groundbreaking M Donnelly/ My Home Dubai – Envirogreen Ulster Open, which will be staged in the state of the art three court complex in Kingscourt, Co Cavan on the weekend of 10-11 February 2007.

This will be the biggest and most innovative handball event ever staged on this island, with six of the top American players confirmed to attend. Allied to our own senior World Champions Paul Brady, Eoin Kennedy and Tony Healy, the presence of the Americans (including US number one Naty Alvarado Jr) will ensure that the top ten male, and top eight female, handballers on the planet will be in Kingscourt on the weekend in question.

The blue riband Mens and Ladies Open Singles will be run in conjunction with a host of other grades. There are185 entries in total, with players ranging in age from 13 to 50.

A banquet will be held on the Saturday night of the competition in the four star Cabra Castle Hotle to honour players, supporters and sponsors of the tournament.

The Ulster International Open will be the most high profile event Irish handball has witnessed, and will be officially launched on Monday 6th February at 1 pm in Croke Park.


Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on January 24, 2007, 03:09:10 PM
God this site is slipping lads..

Many heading to the first league game in Navan??
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on January 24, 2007, 04:00:59 PM
Looks like I've got something on that night and won't be able to make it. Feckin' families >:(

I'm rightly pissed off, there's only a handful of games in this division I really didn't want to miss this year and this is one of them.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on January 24, 2007, 05:34:26 PM
will probably go to Navan...as long as nothing creeps up between now and then.
dont worry Maniac...
There will be a report at about 5am on the Sunday Morning when i get in hungover   :D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on January 24, 2007, 08:01:15 PM
I will be going. I think we will win as long as Keoghan gives the lads a bit of a break from the hard training before this game. It is a key game and we need to get of on a good footing this year. What better way than to beat those Meath dirt bags!!! Any word on whether Gaynor is back on the panel - I hope he gets called in and that there is no "personalities" at play here.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: lynchbhoy on January 25, 2007, 12:05:30 PM
Just to let you know that Rory Gallagher is not going to be running a pub around the Killinaleck area.
He is joining Crosserlough. Still going to be working and living in Dublin.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on January 25, 2007, 12:38:40 PM
The rate at which they're closing down 'skintown' direction, it's probably just as well. Cavan would want him focused on his football and not worrying about scraping up the few bob to pay the rent ;D

Will be an interesting addition to Crosserlough's team all the same. I wonder how they managed to get him, who does he know there, what made him plump for them over other more obvious candidates?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: lynchbhoy on January 25, 2007, 01:04:57 PM
Quote from: cavanmaniac on January 25, 2007, 12:38:40 PM
The rate at which they're closing down 'skintown' direction, it's probably just as well. Cavan would want him focused on his football and not worrying about scraping up the few bob to pay the rent ;D

Will be an interesting addition to Crosserlough's team all the same. I wonder how they managed to get him, who does he know there, what made him plump for them over other more obvious candidates?

I didnt ask him...
must do next time I see him..
think he knows no-one there, just had to join a Cavan club in order to pay for the county
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on January 25, 2007, 01:13:05 PM
And tell him we'll all be rooting for him in the blue shirt as well! (especially if he bags 3-9 against Meath....instant hero! :o)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on January 25, 2007, 01:49:45 PM
Been absent for a while folks. Feck all for news yous lads.

Gaynor asked to get back in the panel l\st week alright but as off the Tyrone match he hadn't got a call back. Haven't heard anything since.

Regards the u21s wasn't at the Leitrim game but Delaney was in goals, Sean McCormack full-back started very shaky but settled (podge wasn't playing) Taite and Geoghan were the wing half backs both played well (Geoghan's third good game for them) McDonald and Cunningham midfield. Anton Reilly on the 40. Raymond Galligan scored 6 points (5 frees but very well taken). Alan 'toasty' Clarke was at the game in a cast from his groin to his ankle, he's fractured his tibia (the thigh bone) from the Longford game, will be out for 11 weeks. Enda McCormack is to resume training after a spell out with a groin injury.

I'd heard since alright the pub story about Gallagher isn't true. D'OH.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on January 25, 2007, 02:09:15 PM
yeah id say that gallagher story started in a pub .  Gaynor will be back thats for sure well worth his place and his hard hittting will b needed to get crowd and team going..
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on January 25, 2007, 04:04:59 PM
Quote from: Homer on January 25, 2007, 01:49:45 PM

Gaynor asked to get back in the panel l\st week alright but as off the Tyrone match he hadn't got a call back. Haven't heard anything since.

Hopefully it's because they didn't want to upset the panel of players that have trained all year or soemthing, but will welcome him back later on or something. Can't think of any other reason why they wouldn't have him back...unless he's heading off again shortly or something and they didn't see the point?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on January 25, 2007, 04:48:24 PM
bad news about Clarke......he would have been one of our key under 21 men this year....

im guessing the news about Gallagher working in Shercock was also false.....

Its strange Darragh Gaffney isnt around the under 21 scene? Laziness or the management dont fancy him?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on January 25, 2007, 05:01:43 PM
Quote from: cavanmaniac on January 25, 2007, 04:04:59 PM
Quote from: Homer on January 25, 2007, 01:49:45 PM

Gaynor asked to get back in the panel l\st week alright but as off the Tyrone match he hadn't got a call back. Haven't heard anything since.

Hopefully it's because they didn't want to upset the panel of players that have trained all year or soemthing, but will welcome him back later on or something. Can't think of any other reason why they wouldn't have him back...unless he's heading off again shortly or something and they didn't see the point?

he was only away a few weeks and had trained b4 he went away so i don't think anyone would have been upset.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: lynchbhoy on January 25, 2007, 06:40:34 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on January 25, 2007, 04:48:24 PM
im guessing the news about Gallagher working in Shercock was also false.....


LOL
I must tell him that one

also there will shortly be sightings of him and lord lucan racing around Kildallan on shergar soon.... :D

he's keeping the job he has and in fact the role he has in dublin is actually branching out to be something a little more exciting  than it was...so shercock will have to wait...
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on January 26, 2007, 10:29:15 AM
Fixtures Division 1
A.C.F.L. Div 1 2007

Round One

Belturbet v Cuchullains
Mullahoran v Ballinagh
Gowna v Ballyhaise
Cavan Gaels v Denn
Kingscourt v Drumalee
Drumlane v Lacken
Castlerahan v Crosserlough

Round Two

Cuchullains v Mullahoran
Ballinagh v Gowna
Ballyhaise v Cavan Gaels
Denn v Kingscourt
Drumalee v Drumlane
Lacken v Crosserlough
Belturbet v Castlerahan


Round Three

Mullahoran v Belturbet
Gowna v Cuchullains
Cavan Gaels v Ballinagh
Kingscourt v Ballyhaise
Drumlane v Denn
Crosserlough v Drumalee
Castlerahan v Lacken

Round Four

Belturbet v Gowna
Cuchullains v Cavan Gaels
Ballinagh v Kingscourt
Ballyhaise v Drumlane
Denn v Crosserlough
Drumalee v Lacken
Mullahoran v Castlerahan

Round Five

Gowna v Mullahoran
Cavan Gaels v Belturbet
Kingscourt v Cuchullains
Drumlane v Ballinagh
Crosserlough v Ballyhaise
Lacken v Denn
Castlerahan v Drumalee

Round Six

Mullahoran v Cavan Gaels
Belturbet v Kingscourt
Cuchullains v Drumlane
Ballinagh v Crosserlough
Ballyhaise v Lacken
Denn v Drumalee
Gowna v Castlerahan

Round Seven

Cavan Gaels v Gowna
Kingscourt v Mullahoran
Drumlane v Belturbet
Crosserlough v Cuchullains
Lacken v Ballinagh
Drumalee v Ballyhaise
Castlerahan v Denn

Round Eight

Gowna v Kingscourt
Mullahoran v Drumlane
Belturbet v Crosserlough
Cuchullains v Lacken
Ballinagh v Drumalee
Ballyhaise v Denn
Cavan Gaels v Castlerahan


Round Nine

Kingscourt v Cavan Gaels
Drumlane v Gowna
Crosserlough v Mullahoran
Lacken v Belturbet
Drumalee v Cuchullains
Denn v Ballinagh
Castlerahan v Ballyhaise

Round Ten

Cavan Gaels v Drumlane
Gowna v Crosserlough
Mullahoran v Lacken
Belturbet v Drumalee
Cuchullains v Denn
Ballinagh v Ballyhaise
Kingscourt v Castlerahan

Round Eleven

Drumlane v Kingscourt
Crosserlough v Cavan Gaels
Lacken v Gowna
Drumalee v Mullahoran
Denn v Belturbet
Ballyhaise v Cuchullains
Castlerahan v Ballinagh

Round Twelve

Kingscourt v Crosserlough
Cavan Gaels v Lacken
Gowna v Drumalee
Mullahoran v Denn
Belturbet v Ballyhaise
Cuchullains v Ballinagh
Drumlane v Castlerahan

Round Thirteen

Crosserlough v Drumlane
Lacken v Kingscourt
Drumalee v Cavan Gaels
Denn v Gowna
Ballyhaise v Mullahoran
Ballinagh v Belturbet
Castlerahan v Cuchullains
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on January 26, 2007, 12:29:46 PM
Gowna, Cavan Gaels and Kingscourt in the first three games yet again  >:(  >:(
The county board want us relegated for sure.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on January 26, 2007, 12:34:22 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on January 26, 2007, 12:29:46 PM
Gowna, Cavan Gaels and Kingscourt in the first three games yet again >:( >:(
The county board want us relegated for sure.

Could be worse BallyhaiseMan we have Mullahoran, Gowna, Cavan Gaels and Kingscourt as our first four games. Actually looking at it now you guys are playing the latter 3 just before us, so do us a favour and send out the bruisers will ya.  ;)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on January 26, 2007, 12:48:33 PM
Bruisers Homer.....
You know well by now
we have none of those  :D  :D  :D
as defending League Champions though you should have no problems with that... we however seem to be perennial relegation candidates.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on January 26, 2007, 12:58:55 PM
Well to be honest BallyhaiseMan we started with the same attitude as you last year (ie. avoiding relegation the main goal), and look how we ended up.

I hear you's have a new recruit anyway, a guard and former county u21 from Laois if my sources are correct, should do your cause no harm.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on January 26, 2007, 01:02:38 PM
indeed,John Donoghue

Looks a very good player in training i must say......

should be a straight fight between ourselves again for the Intermediate Title id say....
With Perhaps Drumgoon also involved.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on January 26, 2007, 01:05:34 PM
Have Drumgoon sorted their house out since last year? Because I watched them in championship last year and they were an absolute RABBLE.

Lots of problems there to be sorted out to my eye, a club that fell along way after a meteoric rise up the ranks. Hopefully they'll stabilise, it's good to see a club building from the bottom and challenging the old order from time to time.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on January 26, 2007, 01:13:40 PM
well Ray McCarron has left them....
not sure who is managing them...

any team with the likes of The Hannons, Edward Jackson, Keith Fannin,Michael McDonald and Jim McNally will be tough though...
Expect them to be in contention for promotion from div 2 and the Intermediate CHampionship.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on January 26, 2007, 01:26:50 PM
Would agree alright that it will probably be Ballinagh, Ballyhaise and Drumgoon in the shake up for Intermediate this year. We'll probably start as slight favourites but that has never helped us. If Drumgoon get goin this year I reckon they'll be very hard stopped. Seems Lavey will be missing Sean Maguire (injured) and Joey Jordan (abroad, well in Wales) for a considerable part of the season but if they're around come championship, they'll be in contention too.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on January 26, 2007, 01:36:02 PM
i think Baileborough under Vincent Kelly could be suprise packages they had a very good under 21 team last year....combined with the older heads, they could ruffle some feathers......
As you said Homer, Lavey and i might add Drumlane and Drung may also have a shot...cant see any other teams winning it.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on January 29, 2007, 11:06:17 AM
Big write up on Cavan in the Irish News there on Saturday. May I present for your reading pleasure:

++++++++++

Anthony Forde has seen more ups than downs during his lengthy inter-county career with Cavan. He tells Paul McConville why the Breffni players have to step up to the plate and turn the county's fortunes around...

DONAL Keoghan may be the latest in a long line of Cavan managers hoping to awaken Ulster's sleeping giant, but Anthony Forde believes the new regime will not just be another foot-note in the county's history.

A flurry of short-term successors to Martin McHugh, the last to bring tangible success to the county in the form of an Ulster title in 1997, preceded Liam Austin's appointment in 1998.

Val Andrews, Mattie Kerrigan, Eamonn Coleman and Martin McElkennon all followed, but enjoyed varying fortunes without ever revisiting the heights McHugh reached.

Anthony Forde has played under all of those since coming on to the panel in 1995.

He has witnessed first hand the ups and downs of Cavan football, particularly in recent years when clashes between players and management have hit the headlines and last year's failure to gain promotion from Division Two set the tone for a frustrating Championship.

But the Cavan Gaels veteran is frank in his assessment of recent disappointments.

"We have gone through a lot of managers, but at the end of the day, players have got to look at themselves," said Forde.

"You can have all the managers in the world and all the theories in the world, but at the end of the day it comes down to 'once you cross the white line...' That's the crucial thing," he said.

"We're the people that have let the county down over the last few years. There's no doubt about that. We can't get away from that fact. You can cloud it over and say 'this manager and that manager'. But, at the end of the day, the buck stops with the players and we have to take responsibility for that."

While insisting that the current crop of players do need to stand up and be counted, Forde also believes there is a more long-term solution to the county's problems.

A year after making his senior debut, Forde was part of the Cavan team which won the Ulster U21 title and reached the All-Ireland final, only to lose out to Kerry.

Many promising young players have pulled on the blue jersey since then, but the county have failed to convert those individual talents into team triumphs, something Forde believes is necessary if they are to challenge the top teams again.

Last year's League and Championship campaigns may have been blighted by injuries, but the Cavan Gaels veteran believes the problem lies deeper.

"If you look at the players we have at our disposal, you can talk about injuries. But at the end of the day, everybody has injuries. Realistically, for Cavan to be successful, we do need success at underage level," he said.

"If you look at any team worth their salt, the likes of Tyrone, Armagh, they've had success at underage level and they have a strong underage structure.

"We haven't been able to make that breakthrough over the last few years.

"In 1996, we won an U21 Championship and that was the basis of our success for 1997. So I think, realistically, we need to look it at long-term.

"But in the short term, we have good young players coming through and it's important that we mould them in during the course of the League.

"We have to gel them in and that's one of our roles as senior players to do that."

Keoghan is also looking long-term. Promotion from Division 2A may be a top priority for Cavan this year, but they need to achieve a consistency in performance which was lacking last year.

Although they only lost two of their NFL games last year, the second of those defeats to Waterford was seen as the low point in the county's recent past.

Forde admits they were "too complacent" before the clash with the Decies.

He is also adamant that such a performance is something they will not be allowed to repeat under the new regime, who will insist on a stronger team approach this time.

"It's probably something we have been lacking. We have had the individuals, there's no doubt about that. Maybe to gel that into county football has been that bit more difficult for the managers there," said Forde.

"But we've not better man involved than Paul Grimley this year. He comes with a very strong team work ethic from his days in Armagh. If there's anybody that's going to be able to break the mould for ourselves, then he's the man to do it

"It's a learning curve for us, it's a learning curve for him and we're trying to make progress every time we go out."

Cavan started last year's League campaign as hot favourites for promotion to the top flight.

Even a first day defeat to Louth didn't derail them as they then won their next five matches, admittedly making hard work for themselves in all of those games.

In the end, it was points difference which proved their undoing after that now infamous defeat to Waterford.

Louth and Westmeath have been replaced by Meath and Limerick in Division 2B and Forde feels promotion is now a tougher task than it was, especially as many of the other counties may fancy themselves against a

perceived wounded animal in Cavan.

"It's a tough group. You have the likes of Meath who have come down and have a new manager as well," said Forde.

"You have the likes of Wicklow, who are going well in the O'Byrne Cup and Micko has brought a new freshness to them.

"You have a lot of teams that are there that are biting at the bit, so our work is going to be cut out.

"We're under no illusions about that and people are probably looking at us as maybe not as much a threat as we once were.We need to earn that respect again."

But one thing Forde can guarantee is that the effort levels won't be called into question this year. Cavan is a proud footballing county with no shortage of opinions.

Winning the hearts and minds is one challenge facing Forde and his team-mates, a task he feels they're up to.

"Hopefully success will come for Cavan football. The county is craving for it, the supporters are and I know the players are," he said.

"Whether that happens this year or not, remains to be seen. But it won't be for the want of trying, certainly from players or management," he said.



ONES TO WATCH

CAVAN will be hoping the potential of the likes of Cian Mackey, Sean Brady and Lorcan Mulvey bears fruit this year.

But the McKenna Cup threw up another couple of up-and-coming names to refresh the panel.

Swanlinbar clubman Michael Cunningham has made an immediate impact since being drafted onto panel this year. He starred in his club's Cavan Junior Championship win in 2006 and impressed on his senior county debut, scoring 0-3 in the McKenna Cup win over Derry.

The wing-forward has been a prolific scorer for his club, but his high work-rate is another stand-out quality.

Crosserlough's Jonathan Crowe is another who can make a name for himself this year. The wing-back did not look overawed by the recent visit of Tyrone to Breffni Park and even bagged himself a point late on.



NFL SQUAD

NFL focus - CAVAN



(Provisional)

James Reilly (Drung), Eoghan Elliott (Cavan Gaels), Colm Anderson (Cuchullains), Anthony Forde (Cavan Gaels), Anthony Gaynor (Ballinagh, Anton Reilly (Ramor Utd), Barry Kelly (Ballyhaise), Cian Mackey (Castlerahan), Ciaran Galligan (Drung), Darren Rabbitt (Cavan Gaels, Nicholas Walsh (Cavan Gaels), Sean Johnston (Cavan Gaels), Eamon Reilly (Cavan Gaels), Dermot McCabe (Gowna), Declan McCabe (Crosserlough), Donal Thomas (Killygarry), Gerald Pierson (Gowna), Jason O'Reilly (Belturbet), Jonathon Crowe (Crosserlough), Keith Fannin (Drumgoon), Larry Reilly (Knockbride), Lorcan Mulvey (Butlersbridge), Mark McKeever (Gowna, Martin Cahill (Denn), Martin Reilly (Killygarry), Michael Brennan (Drumalee, Michael Cunningham (Swanlinbar), Michael McDonald (Drumgoon), Michael Hannon (Drumgoon), Pauric O'Reilly (Ballinagh), Sean Brady (Castlerahan, Thomas Corr (Denn), Thomas Wakely (Kingscourt), Rory Gallagher (Crosserlough), Ray Cullivan (Ballyhaise), Michael Lyng (Cavan Gaels, left), Alan Clarke (Kingscourt), Ronan Flanagan (Castlerahan), Enda McCormack (Drumalee), Paul Brady (Mullahoran)

• Panel is subject to alteration before Cavan's first NFL match

• The captain will be named when the NFL squad is finalised



2006 RESULTS

National Football League Division 2B

Cavan 0-10 Louth 2-9

Wicklow 1-12 Cavan 1-13

Cavan 0-13 Tipperary 1-9

Sligo 2-9 Cavan 1-15

Cavan 0-16 Antrim 2-9

Westmeath 0-6 Cavan 0-11

Cavan 1-9 Waterford 0-14



Ulster Senior Football Championship

Preliminary round: Down 1-13 Cavan 0-11



All-Ireland SFC

Round One Qualifier: Kildare 1-18 Cavan 1-13



2007 FIXTURES

National Football League Division 2B

February 3: Meath (a)

February 10: Wicklow (h)

February 25: Tipperary (a)

March 10: Sligo (h)

March 24: Antrim (a)

April 1: Wexford (h)

April 7: Waterford (a)

April 15: Division Two semi-finals

April 22: Division Two final



Ulster Senior Football Championship

Sunday May 13, Preliminary round: Cavan v Down (Breffni Park)



THE VERDICT

IN between an opening day defeat to eventual Division Two champions Louth and that loss to Waterford, Cavan won five out of five of their matches in Division 2B last year.

Having been heavily tipped for promotion, they were pipped on points difference by Westmeath, oddly enough the team they recorded their biggest win over in the division.

But that five-point triumph over the Midlanders was not typical of their scoring returns, they beat Wicklow, Tipperary and Antrim by just a single point and only had three to spare over Sligo.

A county with the attacking wealth of the Breffni men should be racking up bigger totals and that is the key to their promotion hopes this year.

Whatever happened against Waterford, the stark truth is that they scored just 1-9 against the worst defence in the National League.

Scores on the board are key, as was evident when Antrim came storming back in the League tie at Breffni Park last year.

Their attacking prowess should be greatly enhanced by ex-Fermanagh star Rory Gallagher and the return of Michael Lyng for the latter part of the League.

However, Seanie Johnston and Gerald Pierson will still represent the Breffnimen's greatest scoring outlets.

The role of Dermot McCabe (right) is crucial.

The Gowna man's presence at midfield is a huge influence, but he is equally effective at full-forward. If Donal Keoghan decides to opt for the latter, a lot may rest on the young shoulders of Lorcan Mulvey at centrefield.

Another conundrum for Keoghan is the correct positioning of Mark McKeever.

McKeever showed against Tyrone in the McKenna Cup that he is a capable centre-back.

But he could provide the leadership needed in attack in a centre-forward role.

Arguably, Division 2B is tougher this year with Meath and Limerick the relegated teams. However, if Cavan can click as a team, and if their forwards can be more ruthless with their finishing, a top two-finish is possible.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on January 30, 2007, 02:45:15 PM
Provisional)

James Reilly (Drung), Eoghan Elliott (Cavan Gaels), Colm Anderson (Cuchullains), Anthony Forde (Cavan Gaels), Anthony Gaynor (Ballinagh, Anton Reilly (Ramor Utd), Barry Kelly (Ballyhaise), Cian Mackey (Castlerahan), Ciaran Galligan (Drung), Darren Rabbitt (Cavan Gaels, Nicholas Walsh (Cavan Gaels), Sean Johnston (Cavan Gaels), Eamon Reilly (Cavan Gaels), Dermot McCabe (Gowna), Declan McCabe (Crosserlough), Donal Thomas (Killygarry), Gerald Pierson (Gowna), Jason O'Reilly (Belturbet), Jonathon Crowe (Crosserlough), Keith Fannin (Drumgoon), Larry Reilly (Knockbride), Lorcan Mulvey (Butlersbridge), Mark McKeever (Gowna, Martin Cahill (Denn), Martin Reilly (Killygarry), Michael Brennan (Drumalee, Michael Cunningham (Swanlinbar), Michael McDonald (Drumgoon), Michael Hannon (Drumgoon), Pauric O'Reilly (Ballinagh), Sean Brady (Castlerahan, Thomas Corr (Denn), Thomas Wakely (Kingscourt), Rory Gallagher (Crosserlough), Ray Cullivan (Ballyhaise), Michael Lyng (Cavan Gaels, left), Alan Clarke (Kingscourt), Ronan Flanagan (Castlerahan), Enda McCormack (Drumalee), Paul Brady (Mullahoran)

Interesting and strong panel....
i like the fact that there are multiple midfield options available.In Galligan,Mulvey,McDonald,Thomas and Cullivan.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on January 30, 2007, 03:28:26 PM
Ballyhaiseman... is there any reason why barry kelly didn't feature in any of the mckenna cup games(injury??) 

Good 2 c pauric reiilly named aswell he must have changed his mind about not playing with seniors this year.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on January 30, 2007, 04:30:12 PM
indeed cavan4ever Barry Kelly was injured throughout the McKenna Cup campaign........Hope he gets a shot at claiming a place at some stage in the NFL....
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on January 30, 2007, 08:11:26 PM
Quote from: cavan4ever on January 30, 2007, 03:28:26 PM
Good 2 c pauric reiilly named aswell he must have changed his mind about not playing with seniors this year.

As far as I know neither Podge or Gaynor are not back in (well yet anyway). I'm sure Podge will be in after sigerson football finishes up and Gaynor as soon as he gets the green light from Keoghan, but apparently he's getting the cold shoulder for now (could be wrong on that one).
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on January 31, 2007, 08:36:10 AM
i wonder where that squad was taken from then cos it is not very accurate if what you say is true.  I heard gaynor was ringing keoghan but keoghan won't answer his calls.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on January 31, 2007, 09:11:53 AM


Following the challenge game with Clare in Mullingar last Sunday, the Cavan team management have announced a panel of 32 which will be involved in the national league campaign in the coming months.

It includes a mixture of youth and experience, and Cavan supporters are hoping it will be a winning blend that will bring National Football League promotion at the end of the season.

The selected panel is as follows – Anthony Forde (Cavan Gaels), Cian Mackey (Castlerahan), Ciaran Galligan (Drung), Colm Anderson (Cuchulainns), Darren Rabbitte (Cavan Gaels), Dermot McCabe (Gowna), Donal Thomas (Killygarry), Eamonn Reilly (Cavan Gaels), Rory Gallagher (Crosserlough), Gerald Pierson (Gowna), Jason Reilly, Jonathan Crowe, Keith Fannin, Larry Reilly, Lorcan Mulvey, Mark McKeever, Martin Cahill, Martin Reilly, Michael Brennan, Michael Cunningham, Micheal Lyng, Michael McDonald, Michael Hannon, Nicholas Walsh, Ronan Flanagan, Sean Brady, Sean Johnston, Dermot Sheridan, Paul Brady, Ray Cullivan, Enda McCormick, James Reilly.



This is from the hoganstand site
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: The Bottom Brick on January 31, 2007, 10:13:08 AM
Don't blame him, Gaynor shouldn't have fucked off and missed a load of the hard training.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on January 31, 2007, 12:05:14 PM
There aint a chance in hell Cavan will play against Down in May without Anthony Gaynor in the half back line.....
He will be called back in before too long,i have no doubt about that.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on January 31, 2007, 12:47:27 PM
Quote from: The Bottom Brick on January 31, 2007, 10:13:08 AM
Don't blame him, Gaynor shouldn't have fucked off and missed a load of the hard training.

I can see where your coming from Bottom Brick, but when do you suggest county players take there holidays then? If they can't go away for a month, five months before the start of the championship when can they? Ballinagh were also playing football into late november too you know.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on January 31, 2007, 01:59:39 PM
From Hoganstand

Former Fermanagh and Ulster star forward Rory Gallagher has been selected at full-forward on the Cavan side to play Meath in the NFL Division 2B first round game in Pairc Tailteann, Navan under lights on Saturday 3rd February at 7.30pm.

The side also includes a number of newcomers in attack such as former county minor star, Ray Cullivan (Ballyhaise) at wing-forward; Michael Cunningham the Swanlinbar youngster also in the half-forward line, while experienced campaigners such as Larry Reilly and Jason Reilly are listed in the subs.

Butlersbridge clubman Lorcan Mulvay partners Dermot McCabe in the midfield sector, while in defence another newcomer, Jonathan Crowe from the Crosserlough club gets a start in the half-back line after a number of impressive performances in the recent Dr. McKenna Cup campaign. Cavan Gaels team captain, Eamon Reilly has been selected in the troublesome centre-half back berth with the tenacious Keith Fannin selected at full-back.

On paper, the Cavan side looks a nice mixture of youth and experience, and the management will be hoping that the newcomers selected will give the side a freshness and edge that was missing last season, especially in the championship.

However, if they are to start their league campaign off with a win on Saturday evening a lot will be depend on how experienced campaigners such as Dermot McCabe, James Reilly and Anthony Forde perform on the night, and whether forwards of the scoring potential of Seanie Johnston, Rory Gallagher and Gerald Pierson get a good supply of the ball to put the Meath defence under pressure.

This is very much an attacking minded Cavan side selected, and if they can play to their potential on the night they have the talent and ability to trouble what is still a far from settled Meath side, and hopefully come away with a win.

Cavan team to play Meath at Pairc Tailteann, Navan on Saturday evening next in Division 2B of the national football league is; James Reilly; Anthony Forde, Keith Fannin, Martin Cahill; Paul Brady, Eamonn Reilly, Jonathan Crowe; Dermot McCabe, Lorcan Mulvey; Michael Cunningham, Mark McKeever, Ray Cullivan; Seanie Johnston, Rory Gallagher, Gerald Pierson.
Subs. Colm Anderson, Jason Reilly, Michael Hannon, Nicholas Walsh, Larry Reilly, Cian Mackey, Martin Reilly, Michael Brennan, Donal Thomas, Ciaran Galligan, Dermot Sheridan, Ronan Flanagan, Sean Brady, Darren Rabbitte
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: lynchbhoy on January 31, 2007, 03:27:19 PM
training since october ( this was what was said to me though I am not sure if I beleive it), word from the Cavan camp is that they are VERY impressed with Paul Grimley and his regieme
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on January 31, 2007, 11:32:54 PM
We heard that about Marty McElkennon as well lynchbhoy, but I still hope you're right. ;)

Team above looks a little bit raw in the back six apart from Forde and Fannin at fullback is not a long term solution, but from the middle up we look strong and expecting Meath to be a little behind us in terms of fitness, match practice and settled team, I think we can upset the old enema, I mean enemy, in their back yard. Here's hoping anyway, it's a game we simply can't lose if we want to see Division 1 next year (I'm refusing to contemplate the Tommy Morphine Cup scenario unfolding) and it's a great chance to strike a blow on one of our main promotion rivals early in the competition.

Where's anglocelt39 gone, the week of a Meath game is not one to be lying low...get up outta dat and rally roun' de blue flag!

Real football. Thank f**k it's back. ;D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Handball Ace on February 01, 2007, 12:18:44 AM
Gaynor could take his holidays when he's suspended after losing us an Ulster Under 21 title?  ;)

Don't know if the backs are that "raw", Paul Brady is there too and Cahill is always steady... Surprised to see Chesty centre half though...

Lokking forward to seeing Cullivan, it's about time Cavan threw a big strong 19 year old straight out of minor on to the seniors. sure it worked with Paddy Brady and John Tierney!

In all seriousness, I think we'll get a result. We're 7/4 which I think is a savage price
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on February 01, 2007, 09:05:19 AM
What are you views on Nicholas Walsh as a player?? 
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on February 01, 2007, 10:36:57 AM
I'd be mostly worried about Fannin at full-back and Chesty at no6, two key positions and neither of these guys inspire confidence at times. We'll see how it goes though.

Someone asked about Nicholas Walsh...I think he's a decent enough option as he's strong and willing to put himself about, gets up well to break ball if not clean catch it too often. Sometimes a bit too narky I think, seems to have picked up a real nasty Aussie streak while down under. A decent member of the panel when fit IMHO, not especially skilful or quick but almost certain to see action against Meath at some stage.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Rossi on February 01, 2007, 10:45:55 AM
If this is the 15 to be playing,I'd imagine that Chesty will be moved to FB and Forde to CHB with Fannin going to CB.
I agree with Handball,although Cullivan is a big strong lad and talented footballer,he's one for the future and should be given a chance to develop with the U 21's and his own club senior team for another year or so.Likewise with Martin Reilly another good prospect, but needs at least a years football with Killygarry to gain a bit of senior football experience especially seeing as he was more or less out of the game for about 2/3 years.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on February 01, 2007, 06:15:09 PM
Thanks for asking after me Maniac. Am trying to keep to the new years resolution of keeping my paws off this board. Not having lived in the County for god knows how many years, not being involved in the game at all up there it suddenly sort of occurred to me that I have absolutely nothing of merit to add to the conversations/debate save the same oul fuckin platitudes. Plus, as John Leahy of Tipp said in the media during the week January is a great month for optimism, which don't come naturally to me, as you know.

Logging on regularly and enjoying the updates and insights from the Breffni lads who are close to the Action. Fingers crossed for Saturday night. Hope to attend some of the fixtures in darkest Munster against the might of Tipp and Waterford. If so, will post an edited report.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: trim blue on February 03, 2007, 11:33:19 PM
Lads I've been a distant admirer of your posts for the last year and shared your hope and despair about our beloved blues without giving you my tuppence worth. As a Cavanite exiled in deepest darkest Meath I only now, after trudging back from tonights gut wrencher in Navan, feel I can add my simple thoughts to those of yours. On the one hand tonights result was a travesty with Cavan 'deserving' to win this match, on the other hand it might just be another in a long line of matches where Cavan fail to put away the opposition and close out the deal. On balance I think that the positive far outweighs the negative and I'm once again like one of those Bisto kids floating on a sniff of hope that is a peculiarly Cavan thing. Didn't see the sending off but presume Crowe took a dig at someone and the resulting performance with 14 men was heroic in many ways. I suppose the one thing that keeps me buoyant at present, Keoghans 'credentials' notwithstanding, is the attitude this year. The difference from last year is startling, and McKeever is the epitome of this. In 2005 I thought that he would win an All Star before long but last year he was a microcosm of everything that is wrong with Cavan football. This year having seen him in the McKenna Cup and tonight, he is getting back to the level of performance he showed against Armagh and Derry in 2005. We badly need Rabbitt back and probably more strength and height upfront, maybe if McKeever hadn't to go back and stayed CHF we might have benefited from his power and ball winning ability. Impressed with young Cullivan and thought a harsh free was given against him for over carrying which then led to Meath goal (altough he should have passed inside!). Big game from McCabe and hope he keeps fit, nice touches from Gallagher as our playmaker, great free late on but he doesn't look that fit yet. Good early scores from Cunningham but thought he faded a bit. I think that Walsh will have a more central role to play in this team yet and he did well when he came on. Anyway thats enough rambling for a newbie!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on February 04, 2007, 11:09:48 AM
Welcome aboard trimblue...the Cavan mafia grows stronger on gaa board. ;D

Didn't see the match in Navan or hear much about it yet, but it sounds like it was a typical Meath never-say-die thing and pox a goal at the end, see report below from GAA.ie. Fair play to them in one way though, if we were Meath fans we'd be delighted and singing their praises.

For Cavan you might be worried about putting teams away and so on and conceding shitty goals to inferior teams (hope Rabbitte is back soon), but given we had 14 men you can't be too hard on them, and besides, the real thing to be positive about is the super attitude shown by the players in contrast with last year. Longer term this will stand us in better stead than failing to pick up two points in Navan on a Saturday night in February, and getting just the one instead.

I don't think it'll damage our promotion prospects too much. Our biggest remaining games are Sligo and Wexford, we have both those at home whereas the Riles have to travel to both. We have yet to see what sort of form Sligo and Wexford are showing this year but one way or t'other, we look well placed to go up if we keep the hammer down and stay focused...and I think we will, judging by reports on Grimley and training etc.

Meath 2-7 Cavan 0-13

Local derbies can be contentious, emotional events at the best of times and this was no different as Meath once again showed that they just can't be trusted to lose when everything points to that conclusion.

In their Allianz NFL Division 2B clash with Cavan at Pairc Tailteann on Saturday night, Colm Coyle's side limped through a game that Cavan had deservedly earned the right to win, especially following the dismissal of debutant Jonathan Crowe early in the opening half.

With a numerical disadvantage to contend, it was impressive that they sported a 0-7 to 0-2 lead deep into first-half injury time, but then Brian Farrell pounced to net a goal that changed the flow of the game.

With a 0-7 to 1-2 lead, Cavan could still fancy their chances though and further scores from Gerald Pierson and Mark McKeever extended their lead to four points once more.

However, Anthony Moyles, who impressed greatly in his role, Farrell and Joe Sheridan ensured the second half never ran away from the hosts as the first half had.

Rory Gallagher at last was finding his form for his adopted county, and put Cavan 0-10 to 1-5 ahead before Pierson, Aidan Reilly and Jason Reilly made it 0-13 to 1-7 as second-half injury time began.

Everything looked done and dusted until Sheridan swiveled to shoot goalward but while goalkeeper James Reilly got down to block it, he couldn't hold the ball and Farrell was on hand to shoot the loose ball into the empty net for the equaliser.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: trim blue on February 04, 2007, 01:30:52 PM
Thanks Cavanmaniac, yeh I think overall the vibes are good and there is more reason to be positive than negative at the moment.... despite getting the draw I can tell you that Meath are far from happy and in no way see this as the latest example of them being never bet..
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on February 04, 2007, 06:59:53 PM
Made a long trip to Navan yesterday. Overall I was happy leaving the ground. We were clearly the better team and I am glad to report that Meath will win nothing this year. The ref sent Crowe off after 5 mins for something that no one else in thr ground seen. There was no player holding his head from a blow or anything, so only the ref knows what he was sent off for. His umpires were equally strange. They waved a meath point wide that was 100% over, then the waved one over which was 100% wide. In any case Cavan were the better team. Very good in defense, putting a lot of pressure on the Meath kicker which resulted in a lot of their wides. Other positives were the performances of McCabe in the middle, McKeever at Ctr Back and in the 2nd half gallagher at ctr Forward. The big positive was Young Cullivan, who was suberb. I can't remember seeing a Cavan player with so much potential. Excellent ball carrying, Sublime fielding and great passing. He seems to have an excellent head on him too and rarely took the wrong option. Mackey did well when he came on and fanin had a good game. On the negative we struggled to get out in front in the full back line and couldn't deal with the ball winning abilities of Joe Sheridan. We need Rabbite back. The last goal was also very poor on our side. James Reillys big problem is that he is dozy. He could have walked over and picked up the shot that Sheridan put in but instead he reacted slowly. Then he made a big error by pushing the rebound out in front of him instead of around the post. It was poor keeping all around. Reilly is proving to be prone to this sort of thing and I  think it needs to be addressed. On the whole it was positive and the results today went out way too with Sligo only drawing with Tipp and Wexford losing to Waterford. Wiclow thumped Antrim though but having seen a few of their games on Setanta in the O Byrne Cup we should be too good for them next week - as long as we don't get cocky of course.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on February 04, 2007, 11:59:43 PM
Cavan u21s lost to Meath in a challenge today, conceded 4 goals. Team was:

1.  Andrew Smith
2.  Fergal Slowey
3.  Padraic O'Reilly
4.  Emmet Madden
5.  Finbar Jordan
6.  Dermot Sheridan
7.  Cormac Geoghan
8.  John Cunningham
9.  Andrew Taite
10. Raymond Galligan
11. Cian Mackey
12. Geroid Collins
13. Aaron Duignan
14. Anton Reilly
15. Killian Lynch
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on February 05, 2007, 04:21:21 PM
Home
Andrew Taite? Cuchullains?
Thats a strong back line,im suprised they conceded 4 goals alright....Smith at fault in goals? hes not County standard as you said before.

i didnt make the game in Navan unfortunately... but what i heard from clubmates who were at it...

Despite being a top keeper,Miller should have done better for the goal
Forde struggled with Sheridans physical presence in the full back line... which struggled under the high ball....but was good otherwise
Crowe harshly sent off for a trip....
Gunner and Chesty quite good...
McKeever very good at CHB...
McCabe lorded it at Centre Field...
didnt hear much about Mulvey played but i know he got injured
Michael Cunningham started very well,kicked two scores ,but faded out of the game...
Ray Cullivan outstanding throughout scoring 3 points......
Meath dropped an extra man infront of Pierson and Jelly,making it hard for them as Gallagher moved out to Centre Forward to replace McKeever who dropped deep.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on February 05, 2007, 04:47:58 PM
Wasn't at the game myself BallyhaiseMan heard about it from a friend.

But apparently Smith was poor alright (conceded the first two) and was replaced by Delaney at Half Time he also let in two himself but looked a much better outfit.

Taite (Cuchulainns) was also out of his depth, so they moved Podge out to midfield with Madden moving to Full Back. Contested midfield a bit better alright but conceeded 2 further goals. I'm pretty sure I have the team below right but Geoghan at RHB may be wrong.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on February 05, 2007, 04:55:10 PM
Simon Delaney or your club mate Terry Smith are the only two county standard keepers for the under 21's in my opinion.
Smith aint good enough.
Cunningham was good for Swad last year.....but unless hes improved his physical conditioning, hes not mobile enough for County Under 21 midfield, but a good player nonetheless...
Good to see Gearoid Collins back,Hope hes fit...a class act in my opinion... his versatility will be a great asset.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Rossi on February 05, 2007, 06:54:54 PM
Seen the Crowe incident out of the corner of the eye ,didn't seem to be too much just a tangle between two players, it was the reaction of Coyle more than anything else that got him sent off,racing to and remonstrating with the linesman.

McCabe was man of the match closely followed by Cullivan and McKeever.Gallagher had a good second half showing good vision with his passes for inside forwards.Full back is a major problem,Sheridan was cleaning up possession all night although his use of it was poor.Miller has had many better games,was at fault for the equalising goal and Gunner bailed him out in the first half also.Saying that the ball should never have got back up the field at that stage,Moyles or Sheridan when they had the ball should have being dragged to the ground.If the boot was on the other foot there would've being no way that Meath would've let Cavan in for a goal,call it cynical if you like but you need to be cynical at times to win games ,all the top teams are.
Did anyone think that Mulvey held back going in for a tackle and as a result got himself injured?


Quote from: trim blue on February 03, 2007, 11:33:19 PM
Impressed with young Cullivan and thought a harsh free was given against him for over carrying which then led to Meath goal (altough he should have passed inside!).

Don't think the Meath goal came from the incident mentioned,it came after Paul Brady was injured.For a lad who has only turned 18 in November he's a class act,although I still think he too young for inter county.He's as strong as a horse and won't stand back, had a bursted mouth at the end of the game.













Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: trim blue on February 05, 2007, 11:34:58 PM
Rossi, thought that Mulvey was hit going through with the ball, didn't look like he was holding back to me.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on February 07, 2007, 10:05:03 PM
From Hoganstand
Brennan in for Breffni Blues
07 February 2007


Cavan have made one forced change to their side for Saturday's NFL Division 2B encounter with Wicklow under lights at Kingspan Breffni Park.

Michael Brennan comes in at wing back for Jonathan Crowe, who received a straight red card in the sixth minute of last weekend's clash with Meath. Incidentally, Brennan is a Meathman (from Navan), who previously lined out for the Simonstown Gaels club.

The only other change to the starting fifteen sees Michael Cunningham and Lorcan Mulvey swap positions with the former moving to midfield to partner Dermot McCabe.

Cavan – (NFL v Wicklow) - J Reilly; M Cahill, A Forde, K Fannin; P Brady, E Reilly, M Brennan; D McCabe, M Cunningham; R Cullivan, M McKeever, L Mulvey; G Pierson, R Gallagher, S Johnston
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on February 08, 2007, 10:19:17 AM
Good to see Brennan getting a game. He was pretty good in the league last year and then was now where to be seen come championship. Hope cunningham stays in the game for longer this week he really went out of it after starting superbly against meath.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on February 10, 2007, 10:57:32 PM
well lads..very good win tonight
0-17 0-10

1.James Reily-----kickouts were good, made one brilliant save in the second half to deny Wicklow a goal,Is a class keeper. 8

2.Martin Cahill--------- assigned a man marking job on Wicklow Dangerman Tommy Gill, stuck to his task very well and even got forward to help set up scores also.8

3.Anthony Forde----------This was Fordes quiestest ever match for Cavan,didnt see much of the ball, solid in his defensive duties. 7

4.Keith Fannin----------defended well and came forward to kick a lovely score. 8

5.Paul Brady-------Not his best game ever for Cavan,but still was very solid,kicked a good score as well. 7

6.Eamon Reily-------Best game ive seen Chesty play for Cavan yet,defended well and attacked often at pace,did f**k around with the ball at times,but impressed with him. 8

7.Michael Brennan-------My Man of the match,Made some awesome blocks...defended well,always got something on the ball...carried the ball forward at every oppertunity and scored a lovely point at a key time in the second half when Cavan were struggling. 9

8.Dermot McCabe-------done well around the middle of the field,a much more mobile McCabe that we have seen in the past 5 years, sprayed the ball around well,giving some lovely ball in the forwards. 8

9.Michael Cunningham-----wasnt an arthodox Midfielder seemed to be playing between Midfield and the Forward line,Used his pace to outrun the slow immobile Wicklow midfield and kicked a lovely score from play,didnt fade out of the game like he did in other games aswell,impressive. 8

10.Ray Cullivan------outstanding playing as a third midfielder..fielded some ridiculous ball around the middle...linked well with the midfield and rest of the forwards...missed one scoreable free but kicked over 3/4 more...got a dirty dig by one of the wicklow players,went off with a blood injury,must have gotten stitches as he didnt return. 9

11.Mark McKeever-------went through an awful amount of work,not like the vintage type of performances we have seen from him,taking skyscraper points and lovely passing and ballycarrying...But the new captain has shown a newly found work ethic this year.
when his undoubted ability starts to show later in the year,God help his opposition marker. 7

12.Lorcan Mulvey--------replaced at half time,out of place at wing forward,Hes either going to succeed at midfield or nowhere. 6

13.Gerard Pierson-----kicked some lovely scores from play and Frees...is a real handful for any cornerback...replaced by Larry near the end. 8

14.Rory Gallagher-----played a withdrawn role between the half forward line and full forward line... 1/3 45 metre frees...also kicked a lovely left footed point from play. 7

15.Seanie Johnston---------missed a gilt edged goal chance...and was wide from play as well,Not Seanies best day at the office. 6

Subs
Nicholas Walsh----On at midfield for Mulvey with Cunningham switching to half forward....Solid, beaten for a very aerial tussles, made one marvelous one handed grab as well. 7

Cian Mackey----replaced Cullivan,very lively and sharp looking kicked one very good score...and set up various other attacks. 8

Jason Reily------replaced Johnston...set up a score for Gunner, didnt see to much more of the ball. 7

Larry Reily-------prominent when he came on,seems Grimley has gotten to him about passing the ball instead of shooting from site,made a good score.
dont think i missed any subs,but aplogies if im wrong.

Brief story to the game
Outstanding start to the game, we went 0-5 to 0-0 up before going out of the game and Wicklow brought it back to 5-3....
Cullivan,Cunningham and Chesty prominent in carrying the ball forward and we won numerous frees.
in the second half of the first half for a spell of about 10/12 minutes, i dont think we got one break,and Wicklow came back at us...
it was level 0-6 to 0-6 at half time....
It was the same story in the second half, we came out all guns blazing...eventually going 0-11 to 0-6 up with some lovely scores especially from Pierson left footed and off balance,some real slick movementby forward and half backs.
we then fell asleep again,Wicklow came back to within 2 points ( 0-12 to 0-10),They also came very close to scoring a goal but Miller saved brilliantly.
In the last Quarter
Cavan Turned on the style...Lovely scores from Mackey,Cunningham and Brennan included as we tagged on 5 points to make it 0-17 to 0-10, thats how it finished.

analysis
Goalkeeper and defence very sound...
Full back line didnt see that much ball...Half back line with,Gunner Chesty and Especially Brennan was outstanding.
McCabe very good at Centre Field,Cunningham isnt an inter county midfielder,He played well tonight especially when moved into wing forward,Mulvey wasnt good in the half forward line, we have to find out if he is fit to be McCabes Centrefield partner or not.If not
then we have to find who that will be.
Cullivan outstanding in all aspects until he went off,Same with McKeever.
Pierson and Gallagher very good with Jelly having an offday......

Wicklow were poor but we dispatched with them well,
I expect the same against Tipp next weekend.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: trim blue on February 11, 2007, 11:27:24 AM
Great report Ballyhaiseman, couldn't make it so thanks for all the info...  don't think that Mulvey is going to make the cut at either midfield or half forward line so do you think that Walsh is the best midfield option for us? Great to see that Brennan did so well last night..
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on February 11, 2007, 12:29:46 PM
Walsh might very well be the best option at midfield if Mulvey doesnt make it...
Ciaran Galligan  Michael McDonald are also in the panel, id expect some of them to get a shot against Tipp aswell.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on February 12, 2007, 01:29:57 PM
The u21s played Meath again yesterday in Virginia, they won 0-8 to 0-6. Starting team.

1.  Simon Delaney
2.  Fergal Slowey
3.  Emmet Madden
4.  Declan Gallen
5.  Enda McCormack
6.  Dermot Sheridan
7.  ??
8.  Padraic O'Reilly
9.  Padraig Smith
10. Geroid Collins
11. Raymond Galligan
12. Martin Reilly
13. Anton Reilly
14. Liam Duignan
15. Aaron Duignan

Meath had a huge midfield out and Podge and Lukey could only contest to break, McDonald came on at half time with Podge moving back to full back. It was still all breaks, and Cavan were slower to get to them.

Ronan Flanagan also returned to the fray with twenty minutes to go looked fairly fit and lively.

A lot of other substitutions made including Finbar Jordan in at WHB, Andrew Smith into goals (no shots on goals, but Delaney's kickouts were better), Cian Mackey and Killian Lynch were also introduced.

Galligan kicked four fine frees and one from play. Martin Reilly looked our main threat up front and was very unlucky to see one opportunist lob come back of the crossbar, still scored 2 points.

Liam Duignan in at full forward was very poor and taken off at half time.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on February 12, 2007, 01:50:43 PM
Cullivan was outstanding on saturday. He was at the u21 game on Sunday too and was sporting a nasty looking shiner under his eye (seemed to be a couple of stitches too). I don't know did anyone else think this but I thought it was Walsh that accidently stood on him and not the Wicklow man.

Walsh later threw his head back into his man before falling to the ground like he was shot himself under the stand. It was a nasty act.

Cian Mackey's not tracking back nearly cost us that goal with five minutes to go. He was standing in the middle of the field as his man raced through.

We were lucky that Forde was kept quiet as anytime the ball did come his way he would give away needless frees. I hope Hannon or Rabitte regain fitness soon as we can't get away with a full-back that can't tackle for much longer.

I also forgot to mention that Hastings Cup final against Roscommon is on in Longford Slashers grounds next Saturday, at 2:30.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on February 12, 2007, 02:13:40 PM
Is the Tipp game def next weekend??? 

Ballyhaiseman young cullivan is a fine player.  I seen him last year a few times in the club championship and didn't think he was great, but from the meath and wicklow games it's obvious that he is a class act.  Johnston is after having 2 poor games now although he isn't doing much wrong other than not being as consistant as last year with his point taking.  I think out forwards will cause alot of teams problems if we can get good early ball into them ... anyone agree????
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on February 12, 2007, 07:49:17 PM
Was at the match on Saturday. I'd broadly agree with what Ballyhaiseman says in his report. However, I though Forde was very poor at full back. Diving into tackles and constantly getting turned. Surely he knows as full back he is the last line of defence? I don't think he won one 50 50 ball with his man. Best player on the pitch was Cullivan. When he went off things started to go against us a bit. I thought Walsh was excellent when he came on too. My worries are that we are weak at full back, need Gaynor at half back and are  not carrying a goal threat. As I said before Wicklow are a poor team so I wouldn't get too excited about this result.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on February 13, 2007, 10:16:54 AM
Good informative posts by all there, for us out of towners up here in the big shmoke who can't get home for these weekends that matter. >:(

The word from home seems to be still encouraging anyway, let's hope it stays that way. Sounds like Cullivan has made a very promising start but there's a part of me winces when I see our young talent being relied on so heavily so early in their career.

I know he's strong and capable and so on but we will truly never learn the lessons from John Tierney.

Any word when Rabbitte is back, and is there any chance we'd try this Thomas Corr bloke in some of the next few games? None of the players we've tried thus far are in any way adequate as number 3s.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on February 13, 2007, 10:31:41 AM
i don't think that to many lads are going to be tried out in the league.  A top 2 finish is the target and the management are going to play what they feel is the strongest team in every game.  After 2 league games it looks like they are happy with the 20 or so lads they have used.

Don't think that forde is worth his place this year he gives away 2 many frees and with michael hannon, rabbitte and hopefully gaynor to come back i can't see a place in defence for him.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on February 13, 2007, 11:02:23 AM
That's another thing, where is Gaynor...is he still in Australia, or just the slightly less salubrious surrounds of Ballinagh? A bit worrying that there's no word on him coming back, especially as some reckon he made himself available and was ignored by management...is there some sort of history between him and Keogan?

Madness to leave this guy out of a defence that WILL creak against good opposition.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on February 13, 2007, 11:23:44 AM
He came back weeks ago.  Sure i don't think he was even away a month.  He tried to ring Keoghan several times when he came home but the wont answer his calls.  He met him in town one nite and keoghan never mentioned football to him.  It's the team that is gonna suffer most because of this i think that we need gaynor in the team and if he isn't brought back soon his fitness levels will b crap.  Every team needs a player who is gonna hit hard and rise oppositon players but of course he is easily risen himself which is one downfall.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on February 13, 2007, 11:38:45 AM
Quote from: cavan4ever on February 13, 2007, 11:23:44 AM
He came back weeks ago.  Sure i don't think he was even away a month.  He tried to ring Keoghan several times when he came home but the wont answer his calls.  He met him in town one nite and keoghan never mentioned football to him.  It's the team that is gonna suffer most because of this i think that we need gaynor in the team and if he isn't brought back soon his fitness levels will b crap.  Every team needs a player who is gonna hit hard and rise oppositon players but of course he is easily risen himself which is one downfall.

Your spot on 4ever. He's home a month now and mad to get involved. I've even heard that Keoghans fellow selectors have asked to bring him in. But as I said a while back Keoghan has never been a fan of his and is too stubborn to budge on this issue.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on February 13, 2007, 11:48:53 AM
Have any of use seen keoghan durning a game he just walks up and down the line and its grimley that makes all the positional changes and subs.   
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on February 13, 2007, 11:59:46 AM
Quote from: cavan4ever on February 13, 2007, 11:48:53 AM
Have any of use seen keoghan durning a game he just walks up and down the line and its grimley that makes all the positional changes and subs.   

Ah no thats not all Keoghan does, he also claps his hands together and shouts WORKRATE! WORKRATE! WORKRATE!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on February 13, 2007, 12:03:31 PM
True story there Cavan4ever.

Keogan is just the front man, Grimley is the real manager, heard as much from a 'sauce'  ;) I meet occasionally. At least Donal knows his limitations and surrounds himself with people who know what they're at, although Keogie Bear's infuence must still extend to calling the shots on Gaynor's inclusion or not. Shame.

It's a real folly to leave him out and it's all sweetness and light in these honeymoon days of games against weak-ish opposition in February, but come June when the real stuff starts we'll all be tearing our hair out if Gaynor isn't there, martk my words, and then the hard questions will be asked of Keogan. Unfortunately, he'll continue to get away with leaving Gaynor out until the real hard tests later in the year when it's too late to bring him in and train him up.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on February 13, 2007, 12:22:17 PM
Championship Draws

Junior Championship

Munterconnacht v Templeport

Shercock v Killeshandra

Corlough v Cornafean

Arva v Maghera

Butlersbridge v Mountnugent

Kildallen v Shannon Gaels





Intermediate Championship

Ballymachugh v Lavey

Ballinagh v Baileboro

Drung v Drumlane

Drumgoon v Kill

Coothill v Redhills

Ballyhaise v Swanlinbar

Laragh v Kilenkere





Senior Championship

Drumalee v Ramour

Castlerahan v Crosserlough

Mullahorn v Denn

Kingscourt v Cuchulainns

Gowna v Cavan Gaels

Lacken v Belturbet

Knockbride v Killygarry
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on February 13, 2007, 12:25:17 PM
yeah workrate workrate.   There are lots of peolpe who reckon that the team is better of without gaynor (he will get sent off etc) but i know id be happier to see him in the cavan team than not in it.. I wonder if we set up a Gaynor supporters club here would it help  :P
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: trim blue on February 13, 2007, 01:17:07 PM
For all his faults Gaynor needs to be in there come May, he may have a bit too much fire in him at times but i'd prefer trying to take a bit out of a player than trying to put it in. Sorry to see report in Sun Indo about this being Paul Bradys last year with Cavan too.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on February 13, 2007, 03:54:52 PM
I don't know much about the psychology etc. but some players are good enough to warrant carrying on a team to see can they be improved. Alex Ferguson never tried to totally take the bad element out of Keane or Cantona, likewise Wenger with Vieira etc, instead they toned it down but retained the core aggression for the good of their teams. If anyone is cut out to do such a job for Gaynor then it's a thinker like Grimley.

The point is that every team needs a player(s) like Gaynor and Cavan have had precious little of this type of edgy warrior for too long. Moral victories are the best that teams of nice guys get in todays dog-eat-dog gaelic football world. I accept Gaynor is a ticking bomb sometimes but people can be taught to channel aggression legitimately without losing the edge in their play, and in Gaynor's case I think we're dispensing with him before allowing him a concerted chance to prove he can be an asset as opposed to a liability.

Without him, we have alot less steel and we will suffer greatly for it in summer IMHO. Your current assessment of him may well be correct, I can't say, but what I do believe is that it's a mistake to assume he could not and would not change, especially if he's so mad to be involved. He doesn't even need to change too much either...

Who knows, maybe he's been left hanging on the line for a while to make him appreciate his place when or if he does get it back? Or maybe that's just wishful thinking.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on February 13, 2007, 04:00:31 PM
you made some gud points there.  He really did piss me off in that U-21 final but when he is with the seniors he hasn't been all that bad disipline wise.  Forde or walsh are just as likely to get sent off as him.  Walsh wasn't on last week when he was booked and could have got the line later.  Evertime forde tackles he boxes the ribs of his man ..   Correct me if im wrong but is gaynors disipline record with the seniors all that bad??
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on February 13, 2007, 10:27:48 PM
Bottom Brick - I hear what your saying but for me Gaynor has the potential to change. I'm not shooting you down, just stating an opinion. I would say that he has the ability to be one of the best Ctr backs in the country too. I agree that grimley seems like an ideal person to sort the lad out too. For christ sake he has weened McCabe from taking frees and somehow he has got him fit again. Even Larry looks fit. To finish, there are many lads that whinge that they "have" to play county football - it is nice to know that Gaynor is mad to play. For god sake let the man back in to the panel I say.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on February 14, 2007, 11:18:06 PM
I think Gaynor is needed back on the county scene,If theres a man in the country that can channel that aggression its Grimley.
I hear that Darren Rabbitte will be available against Tipp,
He has to prove he can stay healthy to contribute throughout the year, he does seem very injury-prone,Lyng is also a couple of weeks away from return.
along with soon returning Hannon(5 weeks away) and Johnny Crowe, we should have lots of options in the backline soon.

on a different topic
Cavan Hurling
Cavan Team to Play Longford in the 1st Rd NHL

1 D Sheridan Mullahoran
2 D Neary Woodford Gaels
3 K Downes Cavan Gaels
4 A Nelligan Cavan Gaels
5 M O Gorman Leixlip
6 J Lafferty Carndonnagh
7 A Sheridan Mullahoran
8 M Hill Ballymachugh
9 P Sheridan Mullahoran
10 W Farrell Ballymachugh
11 J Donohoe Mullahoran
12 R O Hagan Mullahoran
13 E Dalton Mullahoran
14 M Mc Entee Mullahoran
15 R O Hanlon Cavan Gaels
16 P Baxter Ballymachugh
17 J Fitzsimons Mullahoran
18 S Og Brady Mullahoran
19 F Coyle Cavan Gaels
20 C Mc Manus Woodford Gaels
21 P Sheridan Ballymachugh
22 S Lee Cavan Gaels
23 K Hanneffy Cavan Gaels
24 M Murphy Cavan Gaels
25 P Brady Mullahoran
26 B Harten Ballymachugh
27 T Craig Cavan Gaels
28 PJ Kelly Cavan Gaels
29 P Devine Woodford Gaels
30 G Clerkin Mullahoran

The prestigious Cavan Hurling get back into action soon enough against Longford.  :)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on February 15, 2007, 10:21:23 AM
Thinking bout goin to the U-21 game on saturday.  anyone kno how to get to the pitch??
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on February 15, 2007, 10:33:38 AM
Slashers is located approximately 1 mile outside the town on the road to Ballymahon/Athlone.

From Longford Town the pitch is out past the railway station and past the dog track along a main road.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: C-na-G on February 15, 2007, 02:04:03 PM
What time is the game at?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on February 16, 2007, 05:02:07 PM
Quote from: C-na-G on February 15, 2007, 02:04:03 PM
What time is the game at?

Hastings cup final game is at 2
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Handball Ace on February 18, 2007, 09:19:16 PM
Went along to the match, here's a few quick observations

1 Slashers is some set up, puts every club in Cavan (not least Chelski Gaels) to shame

2 We may forget about Mackey, he's the exact same as James Clarke was a couple of years ago. You can get away with scorching pace at minor level but when he makes the step up, the lad won't count. Stay on his inside and 4 times out of 5 he'll either solo round in circles and get smothered, overcarry, or kick the ball wide or straight up in the air

3 Raymond Galligan is the best kicker of a dead ball in the county, including his club mate Finbar. Will be good to see can he do it under pressure in a really big match. He looks sluggish on the ball, but worth his place for frees alone

4 Podge is vulnerable against a strong, barrel chested type full forward. The Longford no 14 was extremely limited, but still took Reilly (who I rate very highly) for 3 points

5 We have two big, strong reasonably mobile midfielders, great to see it

6 Simon Delaney's mouth is more notbale than his playing ability. Needs to cut back on the treied and trusted Peter Schmeichel bull, and concentrate on not being lobbed

7 Had we Ray Cullivan around the middle for the hour, we'd have beaten them easily

8 Heard a lot about centre back Sheridan, wasn't at all impressed

9 Slowey is a hardy bit of stuff. Saw him get the mother and father of all roastings for the minors a year or two ago, but he was stead and tigerishy, in the first half at least. Very small though, as is Killian Lynch

10 Martin reilly wasnt at the races in the second half, the jury is still out on this guy

Our usual underage complacency, wasting chances, lack of killer instinct came back to haunt us. Did anyone else feel Cavan had a couple more gears in them?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on February 19, 2007, 10:58:26 AM
Cheers for the report. I'm in two minds as to how I feel about losing this. On one hand you'd like the lads to keep winning all the time but then again we've won this competition numerous times in recent years and it's never done us any good once the real stuff starts in championship. Nobody will remember the Hastings Cup if we do well in championship.

I wouldn't be familiar with the players that aren't on the senior panel but I would say your comments on Mackey are well founded. He's a bit of a one-trick pony IMO, flits in and out of games and needs the ball handed to him because he's not the type to fight for a dirty ball. He's becoming a bit of a luxury player. His club mate Flanagan looks the far classier act, the real deal and in a few years will be an important player for Cavan if he stays injury free.

I'd say Podge will come good too, I also rate this lad highly.

When is the Monaghan game?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: The Bottom Brick on February 19, 2007, 11:46:00 AM
Can anyone name the team which started the Under 21 match, no programmes left when I got there...
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on February 19, 2007, 02:21:43 PM
Any clubs have challenge games at weekend?? 
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on February 19, 2007, 02:46:53 PM
Killeshandra had a challenge against the bridge, scheduled for 3 thirds of 25 minutes each. I hear it go abandoned in the 2nd third after a big fist fight couldn't be stopped.

Was Cullivan not playing at all for the U21's? I thought we'd win that but it doesn't really matter.

Mackey has made some decent sub showings for the seniors this year. Do you think maybe the fact that it is U21 means he is trying too hard as he see himself as one of the senior players on the team. Or is he just not up to it??
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on February 19, 2007, 02:54:30 PM
Im not sure about mackey either.  He is light and needs to bulk up alot but then he could lose some of his pace which is all he really has going for him. 
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on February 19, 2007, 03:18:44 PM
C4Ever

i got the impression from watching Mackey against Wicklow and Tyrone in the Mckenna that he has bulked up a fair bit over the last year,

Handball Ace with his James Clarke comparison is correct.
Blistering pace can make you stand out at County Minor level where some of your opposition may not be as physically developed as you are,
But at County Senior Level,You need alot more attributes than just pace,because every defender is fast enough to stay with you.
Raymond Galligan is a good player,wouldnt be suprised to see him start alongside McDonald at Centrefield against Monaghan.
wasnt at the under 21 game so like Brick,i wouldnt mind seeing the team that started, if anyone has the time  :)

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on February 19, 2007, 03:27:35 PM
But is he strong enough for inter county football??   
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on February 19, 2007, 03:33:16 PM
Strong enough Yes in my opinion
Good enough, i have my doubts,Despite his great speed,Hes not like a young Larry Reily who could twist and turn a defender inside out.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on February 19, 2007, 03:35:47 PM
In my opinion he is not strong enough and he wont go for the 50-50 balls.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on February 19, 2007, 03:44:31 PM
To tell you the truth though, im always dubious about these pre season games concerning the amount and what type of training the players were doing during the week,
The Under 21's could have had a hard session the night before(they do train on Friday Nights i believe)
and Mackey amongst others could have been sluggish after it.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on February 19, 2007, 03:48:38 PM
Yeah well summer football prob suits him better anyway...

It's tipp this weekend anyway anyone know if there is a game the week after or what dates the remaining league games are?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Handball Ace on February 19, 2007, 04:08:42 PM
1 Delaney - spent the game roaring like an ass, then got lobbed. Cant make Kilinkere juniors apparently

2 Slowey
3 Podge
4 Madden

5 Jordan
6 Sheridan
7 McCormack

8 McDonald
9 Cunningham

10 Anton reilly
11 Martin reilly
12 Mackey

13 Lynch
14 Flanagan
15 Galligan

Ronan Fla should have been shot for passing to Mackey when he was one on one, Mackey shot be shot for calling it
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on February 19, 2007, 04:29:20 PM
Quote from: Handball Ace on February 19, 2007, 04:08:42 PM
1 Delaney - spent the game roaring like an ass, then got lobbed. Cant make Kilinkere juniors apparently


:D :D :D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: trim blue on February 19, 2007, 06:12:58 PM
What was the score in the U 21 match lads?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on February 19, 2007, 08:03:38 PM
Quote from: trim blue on February 19, 2007, 06:12:58 PM
What was the score in the U 21 match lads?

Not sure think it was 1-10 to 0-11, but they lost by two anyway.

Quote from: cavanmaniac on February 19, 2007, 10:58:26 AM
When is the Monaghan game?

Paddys Day :-[ at 12 in Clones

Quote from: Handball Ace on February 18, 2007, 09:19:16 PM
We may forget about Mackey, he's the exact same as James Clarke was a couple of years ago. You can get away with scorching pace at minor level but when he makes the step up, the lad won't count. Stay on his inside and 4 times out of 5 he'll either solo round in circles and get smothered, overcarry, or kick the ball wide or straight up in the air

Cheers for the report Ace, but the same was said about Jelly after he made his debut on to the county scene and look at him now (I know he is in bad form at the moment, but come Championship he will still be our most dangerous forward), Mackey will be a match winner for Cavan yet.

Had to go away on Saturday myself and missed the match but good to see there was a strong contingent from the board present.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on February 19, 2007, 08:39:15 PM
Paddys Day at 12 in Clones   :o  :D Big crowd at that alright

isnt there also supposed to be a ficture of league game son the day after Paddys day aswell  :o
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Handball Ace on February 19, 2007, 10:21:31 PM
Score was 2-11 to 1-12

Ray Galligan got 7 for Cavan, 6 frees

Flanagan tapped in the goal

Cunningham got a huge point

Mackey got 2

sub Aaron Duignan got one

Im sure our friends in the Celt and the Echo will have all the details...
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Rollout on February 19, 2007, 11:50:28 PM
Well, i'd say the echo will anyway.

Good football coverage over the past while, think its doin good work.

Like that bottom line column too.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on February 20, 2007, 08:24:39 AM
How do you players feel about having games on the 18th march? 
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on February 20, 2007, 11:02:55 AM
Quote from: Rollout on February 19, 2007, 11:50:28 PM
Well, i'd say the echo will anyway.

Good football coverage over the past while, think its doin good work.

Like that bottom line column too.

Yep fair play to the echo, I read it online most of the time and at a single stroke they've managed to completely outdo the Celt and show it up for the apalling rag it can be.

The Celt has left itself wide open for this sort of thing with shoddy standards for years and now it's finally happened. And all the Echo had to do was get a former county player to write an opinion column and another anonymous guy or whatever, and presto, it's miles miles better than the Celt. Fair dues it's about time there was some sort of quality available in Cavan local media it's been shite for years.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on February 20, 2007, 11:16:20 AM
Quote from: cavan4ever on February 20, 2007, 08:24:39 AM
How do you players feel about having games on the 18th march? 

Its pure bullshit, it was bad enough when matches were fixed for Paddys Day but now they want to f**k up the whole weekend. We have Gowna in the first round and if I'm perfectly honest I can't see anybody of either side staying out of the pub Paddys Day.

P.S. I hear the NUI Galway v UUJ quarter final of the sigerson cup is being played in Mullahoran at 2 tommorrow (Wednesday). Podge plays for NUIG. Might make the trip over myself.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on February 20, 2007, 02:55:04 PM
County board don't care about the club player thats one thing for sure.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on February 22, 2007, 03:47:18 PM
Anybody off to Tipperary? anglocelt39, have you the pencil and notepad ready? I believe you're our south eastern correspondent for these trips deeper into the interior...

Any prospect of Lyng, Rabbitte, Sean Brady or Gaynor making an appearance, any developments there does anyone know?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: The Bottom Brick on February 22, 2007, 03:51:40 PM
I'm headin down to it, I see it's at one when the rest of the games are half two, whats the reasoning behind that?

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on February 22, 2007, 04:14:37 PM
They do that sometimes when teams have to travel long distance, although i don't remember a game that early in cavan when teams from down south travelled up here.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on February 22, 2007, 07:19:42 PM
Anybody off to Tipperary? anglocelt39, have you the pencil and notepad ready? I believe you're our south eastern correspondent for these trips deeper into the interior


To my disappointment and shame maniac I have to say I look like a non-starter, not terribly happy about that. However there will be one or two other munster sons of breffni lads in attendance so will get the second hand if at all possible. A 1pm throw in at Ardfinnan is a reflection of the high regard in which the large ball game is held in Tipp. Let's say the survival of the game in the premier county is no thanks to certain of their high ranking officals. On our last visit down there the throw in was at 1pm also so as not to clash with, wait for it, a hurling CHALLENGE between Tipp and Waterford up the road in Clonmel. Dressing rooms you would  not swing a cat in and, last but by no means least, not a sign of medical or ambulance assistance when Fannin picked up a nasty enough injury.

Should take them if there is total focus on the job. No inside knowledge I'm afraid, but have heard that Rabbitte and Brady may be available
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: The Bottom Brick on February 22, 2007, 09:36:42 PM
Has anyone noticed Stephen King has predicted the two results correctly in his column in the Echo, including the draw against Meath...

I'm sure he'll be tipping a Cavan win again this week, would've made a decent treble

While we're on the subject, anyone see those ACFL previews in that paper the last couple of weeks? We were tipped for 7th Division Two, Killygarry tipped to win it, Gaels tipped to top Division One.

Can't remember who was voted likely to bottom out in last place in Div 3! Hardly poor old Maghera again?!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on February 23, 2007, 01:56:48 PM
Cavan (SF v Tipperary): J Reilly; M Cahill, A Forde, K Fannin; R Flanagan, E Reilly, M Brennan; D Thomas, D McCabe; M Cunningham, M McKeever, N Walsh; G Pearson, R Gallagher, J Reilly.


Cavan team according to Hoganstand...

Flanagan in for Gunner
Thomas in for Mulvey
Walsh in for Cullivan
Jayo in for Jelly

interesting.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on February 23, 2007, 04:38:17 PM
Good to see flanagan back .. should be strong enough to beat tipp anyway
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Nelly on February 23, 2007, 04:45:49 PM
New Cavan man on the board....

Have to agree King in the Echo and the Podman in the Cavan Life have added a new dimension to GAA reporting in Cavan. Both are excellent. Along with Paul Fitzpatrick.

In relation to Maghera MacFinns, I guarantee you all they will not finish bottom of Div 3 this year, if they do I will eat my jumper!!!

Also I see from the Hoganstand that Mr Lyng is named as a sub on Sunday, good to see him back in the fray.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Onlooker on February 23, 2007, 04:47:05 PM
Tipperary agreed to a 1 o'clock throw in at Ardfinnan following a request from Cavan.   As a Tipperary supporter, I would much prefer a 2.30 throw in, but the change was made to facilitate Cavan.  Any chance Cavan would repay the favour by losing the game!!!.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on February 23, 2007, 04:49:53 PM
we said the same against Waterford last year though c4ever  :o

Lack of a physically big full back
Half back line very attack minded....albeit inexperienced
Thomas must be impressing in training to get the spot ahead of McDonald and your clubmate Galligan.
I like the fact that we have two ball winner in the half forward line in Walsh and Cunningham,two extra options for Miller to hit from the kickouts.
Full Forward line even without Jelly will do damage.
Welcome to the board Nelly
my pick for the bottom spot in Division Three would be Mountnugent again,im afraid, not sure their senior team even won a game last year.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on February 23, 2007, 04:51:49 PM
Quote from: Onlooker on February 23, 2007, 04:47:05 PM
Tipperary agreed to a 1 o'clock throw in at Ardfinnan following a request from Cavan.   As a Tipperary supporter, I would much prefer a 2.30 throw in, but the change was made to facilitate Cavan.  Any chance Cavan would repay the favour by losing the game!!!.

hope we dont take you for granted like we did to Waterford last year, hows Football in Tipp getting on anyway these days?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on February 23, 2007, 04:54:31 PM
don't even mention the waterford game  :o
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on February 23, 2007, 05:19:24 PM
Good to hear that Lyng is at least on the bench. It suggests two encouraging things, one he's on the way back and two the management aren't rushing him back into the fray either.

I'd still worried that we seem to be persisting with Forde as Rabbitte's stand-in. We simply have to use the league to unearth a better option somewhere, get him in and tuned up, because although Rabbitte is first choice, he's so injury prone you wouldn't depend on him at all.

Definitely an attacking half back line, are we perhaps hoping to stick a big scoreline on Tipp and improve the old scoring averages in a tightly balanced division? That might be folly, Tipp on their own patch won't be that bad I'd say.

Hope Thomas shows up in this game he worked hard against Derry but didn't really impress, best of luck to him, although Walsh is there as an option for midfield if required.

When's Hannon coming back?

Two more points please! :)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: trim blue on February 23, 2007, 06:04:31 PM
Agree that fluting about with Forde or even Fannin at full back is a real short term solution, that backline would be in serious trouble in the Championship against any decent opposition. Thought they might give Brennan another run at full back this year, incidentally has Crowe been given his suspension yet?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Onlooker on February 23, 2007, 06:21:29 PM
In reply to Ballyhaiseman, Tipp played quite well against Sligo and probably should have won the game.  IMO they were the better team that day.   I was not at the Wexford game, but believe we played poorly in that game.  Tipp are very much in transition at present, with quite a few stalwarts having retired from the inter county scene.   Only 7 of the team that played against Wexford in the Tommy Murphy Cup final in Croke Park less than 18 months ago will line out on Sunday.   The newer players are young, but are showing promise of better days ahead.   Like many counties is Div. 2, I reckon Tipp's major problem is a lack of confidence which can prevent them closing out games that they should win.  Earlier this year, they should have beaten Limerick in the McGrath Cup and Limerick beat Fermanagh last Sunday and lost to Dublin by a point.   I think the new National League set up next year will be of benefit to teams like Tipp and we would be very happy to qualify for Div. 3 from this year's league.  Anyway we live in hope and you always hope that there are some good days to come.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: The Bottom Brick on February 23, 2007, 06:43:56 PM
What about giving Mickey Hannon a run at full back?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on February 25, 2007, 05:46:24 PM
Didn't make it today, was relying on phone updates from one of my fellow breffni exiles in Munster, always a bit dodgy but here goes. Sounds like a real game of two halves. Romped into an early lead, 1-2 to nil after about five minutes. All over a very poor Tipp side in the first half, going in 1-10 to 5 ahead, four tipp frees from Declan Brown. Jason on fire in first half, three points and set up the goal. Pierson good two, although missed one or two goal chances, which can be a bit of a feature with the lad. Cahill and Flanagan also got good mentions in the first half, Flanagan pushing up for a few points.

Second half we seem to have really lost our way-sounds like Tipp started to niggle and we fell for it, the ref. was fairly ordinary by all accounts. We struggled throughout in Midfield. Rake of subs in the second half-Rabbitte, Mulvey, Gunner and Cullivan. Reilly in goals continued to tread the fine line between ultimate cool dude and dopey so and so, conceding a needless free that gave Tipp a bit of a head of steam.

So there we are, fairly comfortable win in the end against a pretty moderate Tipp side. Once again we fail to put fairly moderate opposition to the sword having built up comfortable leads. On the positive side, at least it's good to see that new players are being tried out, no harm for the likes of gunner and johnston to know that there is competition about. According to my source, no sign of Lyng in the match program, not to say he was not hidden away on the bench.

Not a ballyhaise man style comprehensive report, but hopefully some of the returned travellers will fill in the gaps.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: The Bottom Brick on February 25, 2007, 08:15:42 PM
Just home from the match, some trek to an absolute shit hole, plus the jobsworth on the gate madeeveryone pay full whack if they hadnbt a student card (even if they looked 16) or their student card didnt say 2007, asshole

THE REF WAS THE MOST INCOMPETENT IVE EVER SEEN. ABUSING PLAYERS ETC

Anyway, a very quick recap:

cavan were winning 1-10 to 5 and cruising at h/t, that's the most important thing to remember, they were always going to come back but they never got within three points even

Fannin stood out in second half

McCabe caught some great ball when Tipp came back at us

Gunner came on anad kicked the insurance point in the seventh minute of injury time

McKeever was very good again

Rory Gallagher I thought did well, the Tipp full back was a kn**ker but RG (after being booked for being fouled!) stuck to his task well

Overall, we let them back but we were ten times the better team and they were never going to catch us. Che only thing that kept them in the match at all was Browne's brilliance from frees and play

Walsh looked OK actually, he was replaced by Cullivan at h/t or shortly after, not sure why...

In short, the ground was a joke, the opposition were filthy and the ref was a disgrace, so to come away with a 5 point win wasnt too bad
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: trim blue on February 25, 2007, 08:50:03 PM
Bottom Brick thats really good to hear cos from listening to it on the radio it sounded like the wheels were coming off big time in the second half and it almost felt like a defeat in the end...
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Onlooker on February 26, 2007, 10:31:38 AM
I take serious exception to The Bottom Brick referring to a Tipperary footballer as a "kn**ker".   I would have expected something better from a follower of a proud football county like Cavan.  That remark reflects more on The Bottom Brick than it does on any player.   I have followed the game for years and attended matches in many parts of the country, including Breffni Park and I would never refer to any player in those terms.   I believe it takes a good man to play inter-county football, no matter what team he plays for and all players are entitled to our respect.  With regard to the match, I think that Bottom Brick should have been admitted for half price, as clearly he could only see one team.   By what Trim Blue says, I would say that the radio gave a much truer picture of the game.   Cavan won this game in the first quarter, when they started off very impressively, with Mc Keever and the full forward line well on top.  They should have had another goal before their first score. Rory Gallagher is still a fine player and was much more of a team player yesterday, than I remember him when he played for Fermanagh.  Cavan were well worth their 8 points half time lead and looked a very useful team at that stage.  The 2nd half was a different story.  a couple of Tipp substitutions at half time improved the home team quite a lot and Tipp were the better team in the 2nd half, outsoring Cavan by 7 points to 4.  We never looked like saving the game as the goal that was needed never looked likely, but still the lead was down to 4 points entering added time and Tipp had a half chance of a goal before Cavan's last point.    I thought that the referee was too fussy rather than a "disgrace" and despite what Bottom Brick says it was not a dirty game.  By the way, I am fairly sure that Cavan got more yellow cards than Tipp.  Meath and Cavan are in pole position for promotion to Division 2, but Cavan's 2nd half performance would not get them much success in the Ulster Championship.  Nonetheless, i wish them well as i know from experience that the vast majority of Cavan follwers  are true sportsmen, unlike TBB, who is a disgrace to the photo of the great John Joe O'Reilly that is on all his posts.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on February 26, 2007, 10:36:02 AM
Thats you told bottom brick   :D :D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on February 26, 2007, 11:10:23 AM
Holy Lord. TBB, that's a fair reddener you're after getting there. ;D

Another win for us though, now looking forward to the bigger tests against Sligo and Wexford, these will tell us a bit more about our side and we'd want to be putting in a 70 minute performance in those games - fade outs will result in punishment.

Serious diversion in opinion between the Cavan poster and the lad from Tipp although there's no smoke without fire!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: The Bottom Brick on February 26, 2007, 11:46:52 AM
 ;D

Calm down there Mr Onlooker...

The Tipp full back was very limited, he spent the entire match digging and elbowing Rory Gallagher, who at one stage pushed him back only to get booked himself...

When he got no joy out of RG, the full back turned on a couple of others. At one stage he was in the centre circle and as McKeever burst past him to join the attack (the ball was at half forward line at this stage) he just stuck out his leg and tripped him, it was unbelievably cynical.

He also niggled at Pierson - he was obviously ripping after the roasting the full back line got in the first half, but he didn't have to act like a tr**p for the remainder of the match.

The ref was a disgrace, but for both teams - at one stage his decisions had got so bad that they were prompting laughter rather than outrage!

One great quip from a Tipp lad beside us. The referee was calling for a change of ball for ages and nobody was kicking one up, eventually Tipp fan roars out, "It's not a ball we ant it's a ref!!!"

Tipp were completely reliant on Browne, as they have been for six or seven years, and resorted to throwing their weight around in the second half (with a bit of success I'm disappointed to say). The number six (another thug btw) was hilarious too - he was such a block of a lad and so awkward that his upper body barely moved when he ran, just his legs... :D

Ardfinnan is also the worst ground I've ever been at for a NFL match. Something similar to Redhills or Drumgoon pitch if you can imagine it...

I wouldn't be too despondent at all. We went to a little kip with long grass to play a shite team with one good player, and despite the ref, we won by five having only played for 30 minutes.

Also,  D Thomas won't make it I don't think...

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Onlooker on February 26, 2007, 12:19:24 PM
Bottom Brick has now added "tr**p" and "thug" to his comments on two Tipperary players.   I can think of a word that rhymes with Brick that would describe him perfectly.   I'd say he is embarassing the true sporting Cavan fans.  Anyway, good luck to Cavan for the rest of the season.  If they play like they did in the first half, they will do fine against Sligo and Wexford.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on February 26, 2007, 12:29:18 PM
Onlooker almost every team has one or two players that opposing supporters would call a tr**p or a thug.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Onlooker on February 26, 2007, 12:33:25 PM
That's fair enough Cavan4ever, but I did not see any player on the Cavan team yesterday, that I would call a tr**p or a thug or a kn**ker.  Neither did any Tipperary player do anything yesterday to deserve such abuse.   
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on February 26, 2007, 12:53:05 PM
im guessing the Donal Thomas experiment is over?
just dont think hes senior county material at present unfortunately.
Onlooker I wish yourself and Tipp the best of luck for the rest of the year,You've been a real asset to this thread for the last 4/5 days.  :)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: The Bottom Brick on February 26, 2007, 01:07:43 PM
Only messing Onlooker! :D

The whole Tipp team were absolute sportsmen to their fingertips, they didn't start fouling when the game was gone from them and in no way did Tipp's full back (Foley?) trip Cavan players or constantly dig Rory Gallagher in the back when the ball was up the other end of the field!

I made it all up for the craic!

Come on, get a grip. Every team in this day and age has a couple of filthy players (I know we have a couple) so don't take it as a personal insult when I highlight the carry on of your number three.

Unless, of course, you ARE your number three...
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on February 26, 2007, 01:58:24 PM
Who is next sligo or wexford??
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on February 26, 2007, 02:25:44 PM
Sligo next at home under lights on Saturday March 10th.

Then it's Antrim away, Wexford at home - make or break game for us - and finally away to our great rivals Waterford.

Meath finish up away to Wexford, Sligo have to go there as well after playing us so they could be out of the picture by then depending on how they fare out.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on February 27, 2007, 05:13:18 PM
Anyone alive out dere???

Any news on rabitte getting back soon if it gets much later he won't have much match practice before the championship.  He has missed alot with injury and same goes for lyng so i wonder will either play much part in the championship.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on February 27, 2007, 10:12:08 PM
I'd say the next game against the tougher opposition will be where they'll get re-introduced...Lyng for one can't be far off.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on February 28, 2007, 09:24:46 AM
Quote from: cavan4ever on February 27, 2007, 05:13:18 PM
Anyone alive out dere???

Any news on rabitte getting back soon if it gets much later he won't have much match practice before the championship.  He has missed alot with injury and same goes for lyng so i wonder will either play much part in the championship.

This is a very good point. At the moment we have three of our most important players not featuring in matches in Rabbitte, Lyng and Gaynor. At least Lyng and Rabbitte are on the panel and have some hope of being match fit for the championship, as long as they get a few games soon. If Gaynor isn't called in to the panel very soon then he will simply not be ready to feature in the summer. I think that unless we are missing some vital information, then this is a very very stupid stance by Keoghan. I can see it now when we get bet in a big match due to not having a tough tacker at CB. Where was gaynor everyone will ask?? What is even more baffling is that Gaynors dedication has never been in doubt, even when the rest of the team (including this yrs captain) were all taking the piss. The lad is mad to play for Cavan which is one of the most important attributes a player can have. So Mr Keoghan, get your thick ass in gear and get Gaynor back on the panel.

Anyone frequenting the imperial of a weekend might pass my message on for me. Cheers.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on February 28, 2007, 12:17:17 PM
i wouldn't hold going on a holiday against him.  Can't see him being back this year now anyway.

As for lyng i heard that about him aswell. i wonder will he ever be the same again.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Hank Everlast on February 28, 2007, 12:41:19 PM
maybe its not keoghan that doesnt want him back on the panel... isnt grimley the selector?!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on February 28, 2007, 12:49:09 PM
I thought with Grimley's Armagh background, Gaynor would have been a first choice given his teak-tough no-nonsense approach to the game. Ach sure who knows, in the absence of anythign said by management all's we can do is speculate. BNut I would reckon we'lll sorely miss him before the year is out, mark my words. We're in trouble all the time at centre-back and full-back and if you're in trouble there you're in trouble everywhere.

Regarding Lyng, I think we should bear in mind that he got an awful injury, but also almost died shortly afterwards because of some sort of unrelated bowel complaint. He was literally hours from dying. I'd say that's what's preying on the lad's mind and let's face it, a near death experience would make most of us view something as trivial as football in a slightly different light. Hopefully he'll be coaxed back to full health - physical and mental - before too long. But if he's going to be part of the plan for the summer, he needs to be dipping his toe in now.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on February 28, 2007, 12:57:25 PM
Were in a bad way for a full-back alright, rabibite seems to be the only option and if he isn't fit were screwed. 
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on February 28, 2007, 01:14:03 PM
How long did gaynor take off??? I reckon he went for 4 weeks maximum. Look up at Tyrone, there lads went for months and were still brought back into the panel. For christ sake he had a tough year playing football  non stop. Bottom Brick - you seem to have a serious problem with Gaynor, is it anything personal? I have never heard stories of him boozing when he shouldn't have been. Not like McKeever who spent a day in Killeshandra on the piss when he should have been at a Cavan v Dublin match in Bawn, a day we got a serious hammering. There is no love lost between my club and Ballinagh, but I still think Gaynor will be badly missed and I think the vast majority of Cavan supporters would rather him in the panel as an option at least.

At full back we are very thin on the ground. I find it very odd that we have not looked at someone else in there. I can't say forde has played one game well this year yet back there. He is a half back in my opinion, or maybe a half forward.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on February 28, 2007, 01:27:02 PM
Myles
You're completely correct,
I playing with Ballyhaise have had run ins with Ballinagh and Gaynor in particular,but the guy is a class act.Brian McGuigan went to Austrailia for 6 months and when he came back was brought straight back onto the panel and was probably the key element that won them the all ireland that year.
a Gunner, Gaynor and Brennan Half back line would have serious potential.
Rabbitte has to show he can stay fit,if he cant we need to try Michael Brennan at full back,i thought he done well there last year.
It will be Benny Coulter again at full forward most likely on the 5th of June,and we need a player who can compete with him in the air,Micky Hannon wasnt fit to do that last year.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Blue06 on February 28, 2007, 08:44:53 PM
On Lyng I heard picked up another knock recently and has prevented his comeback but according to Hoganstand him & Rabbitte are both expected to line out for the Gaels this weekend.

The Gaynor situation is strange.  I guess you'd have to be close to the scene to know whats going on.  On the flipside of that the fact that no stories are emerging points to a united group.  What I did hear in December was that Gaynor told management he wouldn't be back from Oz until April.

Unless as previous posters said we are not privy to certain facts I can't understand why hes not back in.  If he is being used as an example (high profile player on team & in many eyes a certain starter) that no one is immune from the drop then imo its a risky move.
Maybe he will be recalled in April where his fitness & commitment will be guaged.  i.e. if he is serious about playing then he will have kept himself in shape.  I don't know I am just speculating though I really would like to see him back.



Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on February 28, 2007, 09:56:10 PM
I knew that the certainties posted by our colleague, as apposed to the opinions that most of you offer, would eventually bring me out of posting retirement.

Gaynor goes on holidays, has been sent off the odd time. Dispense with him-let's see how they do it in successful counties that have considerably more choice than us, take Kerry for instance. At least two of last year's all ireland winning team are in Australia at present. The management team are in touch and they will be offered a chance to prove themselves when they get home. Not a terribly macho or even BBrikish approach, but good enough to win the odd all ireland none the less. Donaghy gets sent off twice in the league so far this season-our man would no doubt have him exiled to Siberia, methinks the Kerry approach will be a bit different.

Good management is about accommodating differences in people. Your approach is grand in theory. You bang on a bit about psychology the odd time, well you don't need to be a psychologist to know who a lot of guys would rather have on their team when the chips are down-a superfit junior footballer with shag all presence and less ability or a 95% fit top class player who would not expect from his team mates any less than he would do himself.

You make some good points sometimes BB, pity you don't sometimes remember that you don't have all the answers to the travails of Cavan football, any more than the rest of us. If you'd been around in the Mid 80's to replace big Jack in that other game, Paul McGrath would never have won a cap...................................

PS-like your footer, we're winning Sam in 07-front or back door-I need to know if my user name is to change come Sept.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: trim blue on February 28, 2007, 10:59:54 PM
any new management team should wipe the slate clean with players, let them know what is expected of them and if those expectations are not met then they can have no complaints. Gaynor seems to be treated differently to other players at the moment, God knows if the same rules were being applied across the board then we would only be left with half of last years panel. McKeever is a case in point, if he was being judged on his behaviour last season then he wouldn't have got a sniff this year either but he has been made captain and while I agree with this its a case of double standards when you consider the treatment of Gaynor. When you take account of Gaynors Senior Inter County career I think he at least deserves a chance to prove himself to the new management. If he wants to go back in and make himself available then management should be letting him know the reasons why they don't want him at the moment and telling him what he has to do to get back in, from the various posts here by people who know him and the Cavan set up that doesn't seem to be the case. Of all people Keoghan should appreciate what it is to be given the benefit of the doubt
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: The Bottom Brick on March 01, 2007, 12:02:54 AM
Anglo Celt, why the personal attacks??

I've just given my opinion, which I am entitled to believe is correct. I haven't ridiculed anyone with a different opinion, or accused anyone of thinking they are some sort of expert.

Bear in mind, this is a discussion board.

If someone posts something with which you don't agree, give your opinion by all means, but don't attack the other person.

I have said that Gaynor is a superb player, but I agree with what I presume are the managements reasons for not including him.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on March 01, 2007, 09:59:04 AM
Whats the U-21's chances in ulster this year?? 
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on March 01, 2007, 12:47:20 PM
Quote from: Homer on December 06, 2006, 01:43:03 PM
Hey folks new poster here, well probably more of an observer than poster.

Anyway take a deep breath, cos I'm from Ballinagh!! But don't worry I won't be littering the board with up the nagh crap that goes on the hoganstand.

Just to give yous more of a Ballinagh related inside track on the county, Podge isn't going in because he is in his final year in college but he will play for county u21s.

P.S wouldn't be surprised to see Gaynor booted of the panel at some stage, not that he is an angel or anything ;D, but Keoghan has it in for him and will send him packing given half the chance.

I have previously made my views clear on the Gaynor v Keoghan situation, but the above message was my very first post on this board, it was a week or so before Gaynor decided to go to Oz. I don't mean it in a 'I told you so' manner, I'm just pointing out that it was quite well known that Gaynor was never going to be given a fair chance this year, even back then.

Quote from: cavan4ever on March 01, 2007, 09:59:04 AM
Whats the U-21's chances in ulster this year?? 

The u21s won against Louth at the weekend 0-10 to 0-07, haven't any team news I'm afraid, but Dermot Sheridan has been named captain this year.

If I'm honest I'd say this years team is not as quite good as our ill-fated 05 season, but still one of our best teams for a while, a decent chance of Ulster imo.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on March 01, 2007, 03:52:04 PM
nothing that we dont already know anyway but still.
Key players could be back for the Sligo game from Hoganstand
28 February 2007


Cavan supporters are delighted with the strong start to the league season by the county side – they are presently on top of their group and very much in contention for a promotion place at the end of the season.

And they could get an added bonus next time out against Sligo in the NFL Division 2B with the news that the Cavan Gaels duo of Michael Lyng and Darren Rabbitte are expected to play some part in this game.

Their return to action is a timely boost ahead of some very important games in the run-in in the league campaign – and is great news for both players who have struggled badly over the past season or more with injuries.

Back fully recovered and match fitness they would greatly strengthen the Breffni panel, and it is expected that they could line-out with their club, Cavan Gaels in their opening round game with Denn in Terry Coyle Park, Cavan this Sunday.


Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on March 01, 2007, 04:03:39 PM
Club leagues start this weekend
My Predictions

Division One

Mullahoran v Ballinagh,  Ballinagh win by a couple of points
Belturbet v Cuchullains,  Cuchullains win by 3
Gowna v Ballyhaise,  Ballyhaise Win by the minimum,but i would say that :P
Cavan Gaels v Denn, Cavan Gaels win by at least 8 points,with the returning Lyng and  having a huge impact.
Kingscourt v Drumalee, Kingscourt by at least 5
Drumlane v Lacken, Lacken win by 4
Castlerahan V Crosserlough, Crosserlough win

Divsion Two
Laragh Utd. v Ballymachugh - Laragh with home advantage to win
Bailieboro' v Knockbride- tough one to call, Baileborough under Vincent Kelly will suprise alot this year,i fancy Baileborough.
Killinkere v Shercock- Killinkere win, a tough opener for newly promoted Shercock
Drumgoon v Drung- Drumgoon win
Lavey v Cootehill-Lavey win by at least 8
Killygarry v Redhills-  i think redhills could do well this year...But i think Killygarry will run away with this division this year. Killygarry by 5.
Swanlinbar v Ramor Utd-  Narrow Ramor Win

Division Three
Butlersbridge v Cavan Gaels B- Local Derby,i fancy the Gaels but not by much
Shannon Gaels v Corlough--Shannon Gaels by a good margin
Maghera v Arva---Maghera to come away with a rare win.
Mountnugent v Munterconnacht--------Munnterconnacht to massacre the worst team in the county.
Cornafean v Killeshandra----------Killeshandra win this local derby
Kill a bye

Division Five
Killinkere v Shercock--------Killinkere have a very strong B Team,so i can only imagine them winning.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on March 01, 2007, 04:08:45 PM
It will be interesting to see how many of them you get right.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on March 01, 2007, 04:36:53 PM
 probably less than half ;D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on March 01, 2007, 04:44:04 PM
yep early season games are never to predictable.. i can see drung beating drumgoon though thats one you will get wrong  :D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on March 01, 2007, 05:09:57 PM
that really is one that could go either way.
Thomas Jackson managing/coaching Drung again this year?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on March 01, 2007, 05:13:19 PM
yep it will be tight enough but i think we should edge it  ::)

yeah he is still with us .. good coach but i reckon we will never win anything with him in charge!!!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on March 01, 2007, 05:23:09 PM
if youse could get all your available players aka Finbar Crowe :P training and fit,You would be there or there abouts in September/October in Breffini..maybe drungs window of oppertunity to win the intermediate has closed  :-\
should be some interesting ties , anyway im out of the computer lab, and off probably for the weekend, Best of luck to you all playing this weekend cept the Gowna ones  :)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on March 05, 2007, 05:13:32 PM
Good weekend of action

we were robbed by Gowna, played them off the field and were caught by a goal with the last kick of the game  :o  :(
gutted, as for the Other results in Division One

From the illiterates on Hoganstand

mullahoran 0-6 1-12 ballinagh
belturbet 1-7 2-7 cuchulainns
gowna 1-7 0-10 ballyhaise
cavan gaels off denn
kingscourt 2-11 1-5 drumalee
drumlane 0-7 0-10 lacken
castlerahen off crosserlough

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on March 06, 2007, 01:56:47 PM
Heard James Reilly is out for six weeks he didn't play in our league defeat to drumgoon on sunday.  Wasn't speaking to him but with thomas jackson with the county i don't think it is bullshit this time.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on March 06, 2007, 02:26:21 PM
Thats worrying news about Miller if its true, any idea what the injury is?

Was talking to Crosserlough player yesterday (Their Castlerahen game was postponed by Micky D at the weekend), and he told me that one Mr. Gallagher has yet to report for training yet, and did turn up for the match on Sunday but did not bring any gear.

P.S not a bad effort on the forecast there BallyhaiseMan 4/5 that were played anyway, with your own squad letting you down at the death (not that you's weren't unlucky, but yous should have really put them away at that stage).
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on March 06, 2007, 02:34:55 PM
Thigh strain what i was told.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on March 06, 2007, 02:47:45 PM
Homer
You lads fairly annihilated a very strong Mullahoran team on Friday Night :o

Bad news about Miller,im guessing Anderson will get a chance to make his claim.

Club Fixtures over the next couple of weeks
Sunday 11th March 2007 @ 2.30pm
TPS Ltd. A.C.F.L. Division 1 ROUND 2
Belturbet V Castlerahan
Referee: Gerry McDermott

Sunday 11th March 2007 @ 2.30pm
Cathal Brady Audi A.C.F.L. Division 2 ROUND 2
Shercock V Ramor Utd.
Referee: Seamus O'Connor

Friday 16th March 2007 @ 8pm
TPS Ltd. A.C.F.L. Division 1 ROUND 2
Cuchullains V Mullahoran
Referee: Donal Reilly

Saturday 17th March 2007 @ 12 noon
Cathal Brady Audi A.C.F.L. Division 2 ROUND 2
Knockbride V Killinkere
Referee: Jimmy Galligan (Killygarry)

Saturday 17th March 2007 @ 11.30am
Lakeside Manor Hotel A.C.F.L. Division 3 ROUND 2
Cavan Gaels V Templeport
Referee: Jim Hyland

Sunday 18th March 2007 @ 12.30pm
TPS Ltd. A.C.F.L. Division 1 ROUND 2
Ballinagh V Gowna
Referee: Brian Crowe


Sunday 18th March 2007 @ 2pm
TPS Ltd. A.C.F.L. Division 1 ROUND 2
Ballyhaise V Cavan Gaels
Referee: Brian Seagrave

Sunday 18th March 2007 @ 2.30pm
TPS Ltd. A.C.F.L. Division 1 ROUND 2
Denn V Kingscourt
Referee: Jimmy Galligan (Lacken)
Drumalee V Drumlane
Referee: Sean Smith
Lacken V Crosserlough
Referee: Joe McQuillan


Sunday 18th March 2007 @ 2.30pm
Cathal Brady Audi A.C.F.L. Division 2 ROUND 2
Drung V Lavey
Referee: Packie Smith
Cootehill V Killygarry
Referee: James Clarke
Redhills V Laragh Utd.
Referee: Gerry Sheridan
Drumgoon V Swanlinbar
Referee: Gavin Smith

Sunday 18th March 2007 @ 2.30pm
Lakeside Manor Hotel A.C.F.L. Division 3 ROUND 2
Kill V Mountnugent
Referee: Martin Sexton
Muntirconnacht V Killeshandra
Referee: Felim O'Reilly
Corlough a bye

Saturday 24th March 2007 @ 3.30pm
Cathal Brady Audi A.C.F.L. Division 2 ROUND 2
Ballymachugh V Bailieboro
Referee: Mickey Lee

Saturday 24th March 2007 @ 3.30pm
Lakeside Manor Hotel A.C.F.L. Division 3 ROUND 2
Kildallon V Shannon Gaels
Referee: Ciaran O'Reilly

Sunday 25th March 2007 @ 2.30pm
Lakeside Manor Hotel A.C.F.L. Division 3 ROUND 2
Arva V Butlersbridge
Referee: Padraig Kelleher
Maghera V Cornafean
Referee: John Emmo
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on March 06, 2007, 03:17:34 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on March 06, 2007, 02:47:45 PM
Homer
You lads fairly annihilated a very strong Mullahoran team on Friday Night :o

Mullahoran are fairly spent force imo, i know neither of us have been training that long but that result just showed what "youth v veterans" means at this stage of the year. I actually just checked it up there and the average age of our starting team was just under 23, whereas Mullahoran only fielded 3 players (in the entire match) that were u23.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on March 07, 2007, 02:52:27 PM
i think Kingscourt will be dangerous this year in Senior League/Championship
walloped a near Full strength Drumalee team...without the injured Clarke and i dont think Gunn was playing either.
Bates is a good manager.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on March 07, 2007, 03:44:05 PM
See the county VS team are threw to the ulster final with a big win yesterday. 
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on March 07, 2007, 03:48:03 PM
team was

Cavan – Alan O'Meara; Sean Cooney, Barry Coleman, Diarmuid Foxe; Chris Quinn (0-1), Paddy Carroll, Kevin Rooney; Eugene Keating (0-2), James McEnroe (0-2); Barry Tully, Barry Watters (2-1), Adrian Cole (1-2); Gary Daly (0-1), Conor Smith (2-3), Fergal Tackney (1-0).
Subs – Rory Dunne (0-1) for F. Tackney; Ciaran Sexton for G. Daly; Adrian Cooney for B. Tully; Michael Smith for D. Foxe; Gerry Murray for C. Smith

strong team.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on March 07, 2007, 03:49:47 PM
Would they be mainly virginia lads??
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on March 07, 2007, 03:55:31 PM
Barry Coleman
Eugene Keating
Barry Tully
Adrian Cole
Gary Daly
Conor Smith
are all Virginia lads

Christopher Quinn
Kevin Rooney
Rory Dunne
are Cavan vocational school

I think Sean and Adrian Cooney are Baileborough Vocational school men

Not too sure about the rest.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on March 07, 2007, 03:58:50 PM
A lot of dem lads are getting 2 much football.  They prob played with there club on sunday , schools, yesterday and county minors this saturday it's madness.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on March 07, 2007, 04:09:33 PM
yep
They should be excused from playing in the Ulster Minor League game against Meath and be allowed concentrate on their Ulster Final.
None of the MaCartans boys will be playing with the Monaghan Minors you can bet!!!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on March 07, 2007, 04:11:21 PM
yeah ur prob right. maybe they will b excused .

no word of team for saturday yet anywhere?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on March 07, 2007, 04:31:26 PM
havent heard a thing to be honest!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on March 08, 2007, 08:26:05 AM
Mr Keoghan got off light enough in court.  I don't think the rest of us would have got off as lightly. :o
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on March 08, 2007, 03:35:36 PM
Team according to northern sound .

Anderson, Cahill, Forde, Fannin, Flanagan, Reilly, P Brady , Mccabe, Walsh, Cullivan, McKeever, Cunningham, Pierson, Gallagher, Jason
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on March 08, 2007, 04:36:02 PM
Quote from: cavan4ever on March 08, 2007, 03:35:36 PM
Team according to northern sound .

Anderson, Cahill, Forde, Fannin, Flanagan, Reilly, P Brady , Mccabe, Walsh, Cullivan, McKeever, Cunningham, Pierson, Gallagher, Jason

Could be Andersons chance to prove himself with Miller out.

Anyone know why Mickey Brennan was dropped?

Or anyone have any information on the situation with Micheal Hannon for that matter?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on March 08, 2007, 04:43:40 PM
Dunno homer . Did rabbite or lyng play with gaels last weekend?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on March 08, 2007, 04:49:17 PM
Quote from: cavan4ever on March 08, 2007, 04:43:40 PM
Dunno homer . Did rabbite or lyng play with gaels last weekend?

Gaels match was called off but they were due to tog out alright. Wouldn't be surprised to see the two introduced at some stage.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on March 08, 2007, 04:53:01 PM
They need some action anyway but i can't see it happening unless were winning well which is unlikely as this will be a tough game sligo will be no pushover.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on March 09, 2007, 10:06:51 AM
Forde STILL at full back. Big mistake, Sligo are the first team we've faced since Meath who will really put it up to us. Have they any class of a big target man full-forward? If so we're in trouble!

I can't believe they regard Forde as a viable full-back back-up, it's ridiculous.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on March 09, 2007, 10:11:30 AM
Well if there not careful if could cos promotion.  who else is there on the panel . Brennan prehaps?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: The Bottom Brick on March 09, 2007, 12:46:24 PM
Does anyone thiak Mickey Hannon is an option at full back? And what happned to Thomas Corr?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on March 09, 2007, 01:02:29 PM
Quote from: The Bottom Brick on March 09, 2007, 12:46:24 PM
Does anyone thiak Mickey Hannon is an option at full back? And what happned to Thomas Corr?

Mossy Corr was dropped off the panel.

I presumed Hannon was injured when he was only named on the bench earlier this year but still no sign of him plying so I don't know what the story is. He marked Declan Browne, Dessie Dolan and Benny Coulter (he tried hard with benny but could't compete with his strength) still Cavans best defender IMO.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on March 09, 2007, 01:14:02 PM
Quote from: cavanmaniac on March 09, 2007, 10:06:51 AM
Forde STILL at full back. Big mistake, Sligo are the first team we've faced since Meath who will really put it up to us. Have they any class of a big target man full-forward? If so we're in trouble!

I can't believe they regard Forde as a viable full-back back-up, it's ridiculous.

Sligo are not a big team in general but they do have that Brehony lad who is handy and would be troublesome at FF. Agree that we are making a mistake leaving forde back there.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on March 09, 2007, 01:51:27 PM
Hannon must be still injured cos he didn't play with drumgoon last weekend
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on March 11, 2007, 09:16:48 AM
Cavan 1-9 Sligo 0-10

shockingly bad game.

Cavan team

1.Colm Anderson,Kickouts werent great,gave the ball away from a free and wasnt convincing unde rthe high ball.
6

2.Martin Cahill, was up against the very fast number 13 of sligo David Kelly who caused him some problems.Made some crucial interceptions.Overall solid. 7

3.Anthony Forde,Played well,won his battle with Sean Davey,But will be found wanting under the high ball if Cavan persist with him here. 7

4.Keith Fannin, his man dragged him out as a third midfielder,that was a mistake,Fannin done alot more harm going forward than he did, was at the heart of everything good for Cavan last night. 8

5.Ronan Flanagan,Very assured on the ball, a lovely footballer.done very well last night 8.

6.Eamon Reily,Very good last night,Broke forward well and was very assure defensively,Hes definetely growing as  an intercounty CHB. 8

7.Paul Brady,Gunner was very solid last night,His fielding ability is unmatched by anyone on the Cavan team except for maybe Cullivan, If only he was 3 inches taller. 7

8.Dermot McCabe, was ok, Not vintage McCabe by any means,There wasnt much in the way of primary possession won by either sets of midfielders, 6

9.Nicholas Walsh,Decent,started out on a marking job on O Hara,Then switched into Full Forward where he caused a couple of problems.Limped off in the second half. 6

10.Cian Mackey, started in place of the listed Ray Cullivan,Done ok in my opinion,unless he improves i cant see him being in contention for a starting place come May. 6

11.Mark McKeever,Scored a lovely point in the first half,more of the same from McKeever as we have seen in the first few league games, a very solid work ethic combined with flashes of his outstanding ability. 7

12.Michael Cunningham,probably not his best display for Cavan,But tried hard, was switched out onto O Hara after about 25 minutes.Took the wrong option a couple of times,Replaced in the second half. 6

13.Gerard Pierson, Gerard had a proverbial nightmare,nothing went right for him last night,It was just one of those days. 6

14.Rory Gallagher,kicked two wonderful 45's and was very good from open play as well.Best display for Cavan this year so far. 8

15.Jason Reily, Kicked some great frees including an amazing one from out on the right wing.good from open play as well. 8

Subs
Sean Johnston, Held the ball up well when he came on, solid 7
Larry Reily,Didnt have much impact really,But good to see him back in contention 6
Lorcan Mulvey,Punched the ball into the net from a Fannin long ball,Carried the ball well near the end when Sligo were on top. Very good. 8
Martin Reily, only came on in the last few seconds.

Overall a dire game,
Poor tactics by the Cavan management in my opinion,short passing in defense allowing sligo to group behind the ball,Then when getting to midfield,Delivering it long into a forward line completely outnumbered.
Midfield was outgunned.Im Sorry but the McCabe and Walsh combination isnt physically big enough if we are to have any chance come May,Dan Gordon and Coulter would clean them out.
some of the ball handling and basic skills were sloppy at times,but i suppose thats to be expected in early March.
One more comment,i already mentioned the lack of height in midfield.
The overall size of the team from 2-9 is worrying
Small Full Back line
Small Half back line
undersized midfield.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on March 11, 2007, 05:01:49 PM
Keith Fannin was outstanding last night i thought but as you said Brick,he may not be best suited for corner back...why not try him at wing forward,hes great on the ball.

Darren Rabbitte/Michael Brennan is a must at Full back,
It goes to show the lack of management skills of our opponents in This Division,that they havent got it scouted that we have a small full back line and its vulnerable under the high ball.

team i would love to see the next day

Anderson(im guessing we are stuck with him now Miller is injured)
Cahill
Rabbite/Brennan
Forde
Gunner
Chesty
Flano
Mulvey
McCabe
Cunningham
McKeever
Fannin
Jayo
Gallagher
Pierson/Jelly

Cullivan is a serious injury doubt for the under 21 game next week,
Hannon has had hamstring trouble,but im guessing hes fairly near full fitness
No sign of Lyng last night wasnt named in the subs
Jonathan Crowes suspension is also up,named in the subs last night.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on March 11, 2007, 06:44:40 PM
I thought that was a very poor show from us last night and I think only for a generous ref we would have lost that game. Our full forward line were completely marked out of the game with sligos back line sticking to them like glue. I can't remember Pierson or Jason once getting away from their men. Saying that the ball into them in the 1st half was brutal and too slow getting in. Sligo were unlucky to be 5 down at half time. Think they hit the post 2 or 3 times. We did well in the backs in general but they had no really big FF to test Forde. Anderson was a complete disaster, his kicks had way to much height so into the wind they just sit up there waiting for Sligo men to slap them down onto the onrunning sligo forwards. He was also very indecisive on a couple of occasions and could have leaked a goal in that game. I thought Mulvey did very well when he came on. Worst player on the pitch for me was Mackey. He is completely brainless. Always taking the wrong decision, running into five defenders and over turning possesion. Stupid shot from close in for a point when he should have fisted it over. Then with a few minutes left him and johnson totally f**k up a two on one chance for a possible goal or match sealing point. He was even stupid to go running in on his own for that last point after Gallagher had done well to settle us down for a bit of keep ball at the corner flag. How he stayed on the field is a mystery to me.

In general we were a bit clueless when Sligo filtered men back. We have no plan B - a big target man at FF as I see it. Wexford seem to be back on track and they have to play us and Meath. There is a way to go yet before this promotion is earned.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: The Bottom Brick on March 11, 2007, 10:48:01 PM
I agree about Mackey, he is so frustrating, I generally don't rate him whatsoever but I thought he was better than usual last night

Very impressed with his Castlerahan clubman though, Flanagan is sheer class and a hardy bit of stuff too
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on March 13, 2007, 11:39:26 AM
Didn't make the game - haven't got to a Cavan match all f**king year with one thing and another >:( but always make sure to harvest as much opinion as possible!

Mackey is a luxury item on this Cavan team. He's a pacy stylist who basically wants ball handed to him in plenty of pace so he can speed off. But as time goes by and he leaves his underage days further behind this becomes less and less useful as the modern game simply doesn't allow lads like this to shine, they just get swallowed up. If he had a good brain for bringing others into the game or an absolutely dead-eye aim for the posts when shooting, he'd be worth including but he does not, and will never make it as a county footballer IMHO.

All reports suggest that Cavan were terrible on the night v Sligo, which is worrying. The nearer championship comes and the more tuned up our opponents gradually become as training and fitness levels converge, the worse we're starting to look. But let's not forget, at turn of year we said promotion, one win in championship and perhaps 2 qualifier wins would be progress and I'm holding to that. I'll be far more disappointed if U21s don't show in Ulster although having scouted about, it seems there's three or four more teams in the province who'll be a tad stronger than us this year - as usual. Here's hoping.

As regards seniors, Rabbitte can't come back quick enough with the double-bonus of freeing Forde up for the half-back line where he belongs. He was best centre-half in Ulster a few years ago and might be a better long term option than Chesty, although that said I haven't seen them play this year

Encouraged that Mulvey is still progressing. Held little hope for him at start of year but he hit the ground running versus Derry and has kept going. A bit of bulk and ignorance is badly required in the Cavan team which might be provided by Nicko Walsh - not surprised to see my prediction on him and O'Hara coming true btw - but Mulvey has what Walsh hasn't in a bit of skill to go with it.

Wexford game will be do-or-die, although don't forget Waterford are lurking again too and have been showing up well enough so far this year. We've a way to go for promotion yet it seems.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on March 13, 2007, 11:52:35 AM
Antrim in belfast will be no pushover either maniac.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on March 13, 2007, 12:19:26 PM
Yeah you're right, we've struggled at times in all games this year against so-called weaker opposition. Tipp had their moments against us and so did Wicklow so there's no point in assuming we'll go to Belfast and win either.

It'd be galling to miss out on a top two spot second year in a row but hopefully we'll get past Antrim and Waterford, leaving the Wexford game in between as the real acid test. Getting interesting now anyway, even the scoring averages are tight with ourselves and Them Across the Border  ;)  on +14 and Wexford a point behind us at +15.

Are the county U21s out this weekend or the weekend after?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on March 13, 2007, 12:26:54 PM
This saturday in clones.  I dunno if there will be many at with parades on but hopefully a good enough crowd willl go down to support them.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on March 13, 2007, 01:29:22 PM
il be there cheering on my 3 clubmen on the panel,i think with there being league games next weekend, Less players will drink :P(probably),and there should be fairly sizeable Cavan contingent in Clones.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on March 13, 2007, 02:01:21 PM
What time is throw-in? I might be able to swing something with work to get down there, if I don't get to see a blue jersey in action soon I think I'll shrivel up and die.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on March 13, 2007, 02:15:14 PM
I heard from a source that Rabbitte injured his calf when training in the gym which is setting him back on his recovery. He may be in a position to feature against Antrim. Don't know what is going on with Lyng.

I think we will beat Antrim easily enough, they seem to be going worse than ever up there - I expected a bit more from them this year to be honest. Wexford will be a very big game. A win there will probably see us promoted before the Waterford game. Meath have to play Wexford too and they also have to travel to Wicklow. Two dodgy games. Wexford themselves have a potential banana skin next time out against Sligo. Sligo will be really up for that one too. They could do us a huge favour by beating Wexford.

Can't make the U21 game so hope some of ye will be taking notes and post some form of a report here. Cheers.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on March 13, 2007, 02:35:44 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on March 13, 2007, 02:15:14 PM

Can't make the U21 game so hope some of ye will be taking notes and post some form of a report here. Cheers.

I nominate ballyhaiseman for that seen as he won't be drinking til at least sunday evening!!!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: footballmad on March 13, 2007, 04:53:18 PM
new cavan fan on this board,have been reading it for ages."long time reader,first time posting!  :D  some good stuff posted up here.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on March 13, 2007, 04:56:02 PM
welcome footballmad.  yeah its a gud site alot better than hoganstand anyway!! 

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on March 13, 2007, 05:01:57 PM
Welcome footballmad, good to have you aboard.

Will be at the u21 match alright, think throw in is now at 2 but i'll let you now if I'm wrong.

Any word on Cullivans fitness he'd be huge loss.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on March 13, 2007, 05:03:12 PM
it's on at 1.00 according to Aertel
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on March 13, 2007, 05:26:01 PM
Good Friday is on a Tuesday this year according to Aertel, pay no heed to the error-prone fools!!!

Although maybe they have it right, who knows. Even a stopped clock is right twice a day after all. ;)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on March 13, 2007, 05:29:03 PM
It was originally set for 12 noon, I was told it had been changed to 2 last weekend, but the source wasn't too sure. Aertel could be right for once. I'll find out for sure and post it asap.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dubh driocht on March 13, 2007, 11:20:56 PM
Homer
How are things around Ballinagh ?My roots are in Corlesmore and I remember well seeing Ballinagh in the late 70s-uncompromising football! Is Potahee church in your parish ?I remember the PP who had a dog who used to sit on the altar during Mass.Can we start to talk about the championship ? You must be hot favourites- we are , as they say, in a period of transition and you seem to be flying.I couldn't believe your minors lost to Donegal last year- the previous year, the game in Cross was an epic and could have gone either way so you must be there or there abouts in Under 21.I haven't followed your teams this year-is Lyng fit ?Forde ?Walsh?one more year in Mc Cabe ?Bad memories from our last trip to Breffni when we had it , thanks to Benny, but Paddy O 'Rourkes substitutions were beyond belief and the panic factor showed he had no composure.Still, championship is championship and I expect a good game between the real big two of Ulster football.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on March 14, 2007, 04:32:26 PM
Good to see Virgina win another ulster title yesterday.. is there anyone about today or are use all stuck in the bookies??
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on March 14, 2007, 11:15:51 PM
That's a right run of success for Virginia. How good a barometer is vocational schools success for the county minor side?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on March 15, 2007, 11:54:53 AM
i dunno they won the all-ireland last year and it didn't do the minors much good.  The county vocational school's team are in ulster final  so there must be some good fotballers in that age group.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: The Bottom Brick on March 15, 2007, 07:38:23 PM
Couple of super players on the Virginia team, notably midfielder Eugene Keating and full forward Conor Smith

By the way, Monagaghan U21's are a strong outfit, said to be one of the biggest under 21 sides you'll ever see. Shane Smith absolutely ran the show for the seniors down in Ennis last Sunday, he's one to watch at no 11

Ciaran Hanratty is another, the best of them all is defender James Ward in my opinion, player minor a couple of years ago and senior when he was 19, quit the seniors last 2 years but a class act all the same

Cavan's best line imo is half forward with Mackey, Flanagan, Reilly, lot of pace. would worry about the defence though. Geoghan and Dermot Sheridan don't convince me

Hopefully we'll do the job but without Cullivan, i've a strange feeeling we could get pipped
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on March 15, 2007, 08:20:41 PM
im guessing the team will be something like

Delaney

Slowey
Podge
Madden

Jordan
Sheridan
Enda McCormick

McDonald
John Cunningham

Mackey
Flanagan
Martin Reily

Killian Lynch?
Raymond Galligan
Aaron Duignan?

Anton Reily dislocated him shoulder playing for Ramor,
Cullivan is most likely out, and with Clarke out long term, Our forward options are limited?
Who do you think will be the Corner Forwards Brick?not sure about those two i named.
id prefer Flanagan at CHB.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: The Bottom Brick on March 15, 2007, 11:30:52 PM
The team is already named Ballyhaise

Delaney

Declan McCabe
Podge
Slowey

Jordan
Sheridan
Geoghan

McDonald
Cunningham

Mackey
Flano
M Reilly

Gearoid Collins
Ray Galligan
Liam Duignan

Strong outfit but short on senior experience comopared to Monaghan. Our midfield are two horses but lack mobility

Good to see Collins back
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: turk on March 16, 2007, 10:41:56 AM
Cavan for the All-Ireland!!

I was up there a couple of weeks ago in Ballyhaise - well it was a spot out west of Ballyhaise - sorry folks, can't remember the name of the place or the pub!

Up Offaly!!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: The Bottom Brick on March 16, 2007, 12:52:08 PM
Redhills?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on March 16, 2007, 02:17:48 PM
probably Redhills or Buttlersbridge,

Cheers for posting the team Brick, Declan McCabe at cornerback is interesting
dont know much about the Cornafean lads as ive never seen Cornafean play at any level.
Gearoid Collins is a super talent, who can play in any position.Its great to see him back in the Cavan shirt
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: shotstopper1 on March 16, 2007, 03:03:04 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on March 16, 2007, 02:17:48 PM
probably Redhills or Buttlersbridge,

Lads just settle for Drumliffe & The Flying Saucer,has being known to habour a few Offaly men now and again.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: turk on March 16, 2007, 03:47:43 PM
Redhills - it might have been.

I swung a left after the bridge on the clones road out of ballyhaise, at the tree.

then swung another left and it was a booser down there a mile or two. that road took me out in cloverhill in the end.

cheers lads!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on March 16, 2007, 05:13:51 PM
Timmy Duggans place :)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: turk on March 16, 2007, 05:24:37 PM
Duggans! that was it.

Best wishes to all in cavan
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on March 16, 2007, 05:52:05 PM
spent many a night fairly sauced down there,Nice spot,Hope ye had a good one
Best of luck to you Biffos for the rest of the year as well  :)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: shotstopper1 on March 16, 2007, 09:00:04 PM
Turk,

There's actually a connection with that pub and the Offaly All Ireland winning hurling team of 98.I believe Paudie Mulhaire's  father in law ran that pub for a few years in the late 90's.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on March 16, 2007, 11:35:20 PM
Cullivan is definitely not starting tomorrow. The knee must be very bad because he is the type of fella that would play with half a leg.

The starting line-up with him was going to be:

Delaney

Declan McCabe (had his suspension overturned)
Sheridan
Slowey

Jordan
Podge
Geoghan

McDonald
Cunningham

Mackey
Ray Galligan
M Reilly

Gearoid Collins
A.N Other (most likely Liam Duignan or Darragh Gaffeney)
Flano (third midfielder)

Don't know how much this will change now. Podge was missing from training tonight with the flu aswell.

Quote from: Dubh driocht on March 13, 2007, 11:20:56 PM
Homer
How are things around Ballinagh ?My roots are in Corlesmore and I remember well seeing Ballinagh in the late 70s-uncompromising football! Is Potahee church in your parish ?I remember the PP who had a dog who used to sit on the altar during Mass.Can we start to talk about the championship ? You must be hot favourites- we are , as they say, in a period of transition and you seem to be flying.I couldn't believe your minors lost to Donegal last year- the previous year, the game in Cross was an epic and could have gone either way so you must be there or there abouts in Under 21.I haven't followed your teams this year-is Lyng fit ?Forde ?Walsh?one more year in Mc Cabe ?Bad memories from our last trip to Breffni when we had it , thanks to Benny, but Paddy O 'Rourkes substitutions were beyond belief and the panic factor showed he had no composure.Still, championship is championship and I expect a good game between the real big two of Ulster football.

Hows things Dubh, Alls well in Ballinagh. Potahee is indeed in the parish, although I don't make as much mass these days as I should.

Cavan probably take the favorites tag alright but I'm sure Down will have sorted out their house come May. Actually we were looking pretty good this time last year but then Waterford threw an almighty spanner in the works. As for last years minors, Cavan underage sides have a sickening habit of letting themselves down. Its a tragedy as some great teams have come and gone and not one bit of silverware since 1996. Forde and Walsh are both fit and both played in the Sligo game. Lyng is about to tog out this Sunday for Cavan Gaels, it will be his first game in over a year.

So we'll look forward to the clash of the titans for now.Good luck with everything (except the cavan game of course).
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: The TopKat on March 17, 2007, 10:10:55 AM
I do believe Lyng's last competitive match or any match for that matter was the 2005 Senior Championship Final against Mullahorn.
That is an awful long time with no football.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: footballmad on March 17, 2007, 03:40:08 PM
yes lyng is togging out sunday,18 months since his last game. hope the lad gets back to his best. any results from last nights games?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on March 18, 2007, 04:01:08 PM
we lost the under 21 game to Monaghan yesterday 1-12 to 0-7, wasnt at it. :(
anyone who was say who played well,who didnt etc, Heard Flanagan got a straight red so thats him out for a month.
Bad weekend for me
Today
Ballyhaise 0-02 Cavan Gaels 3-14

The Gaels were awesome, we were very poor.
Just thought id get that out of the way before the slagging starts.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: The TopKat on March 18, 2007, 04:04:02 PM
Did Lyng feature for the gaels?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on March 18, 2007, 04:06:11 PM
he came on with about 15 minutes to go TopKat.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: The Bottom Brick on March 19, 2007, 12:59:37 PM
I heard Lyng came on wearing a pair of tights, then split Slowey with a box?

Any truth in this???
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Maximus Marillius on March 19, 2007, 01:03:48 PM
Ballyhaise man are ye that bad...23...2,  :D :D
I see yer U21s took a beating, did ye not think you had a great team this year?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on March 19, 2007, 01:17:23 PM
Quote from: The Bottom Brick on March 19, 2007, 12:59:37 PM
I heard Lyng came on wearing a pair of tights, then split Slowey with a box?

Any truth in this???

i was down the other end of the field,so i cant say for sure,but yes Lyng had the whole full bodywarmer tight things, and got into an altercation with Slowey,i was told by some of the lads along the line that he threw a punch at Fergal Slowey
Slowey stuck like glue to him,it must have annoyed him alright.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on March 19, 2007, 01:19:15 PM
Quote from: Maximus Marillius on March 19, 2007, 01:03:48 PM
Ballyhaise man are ye that bad...23...2,  :D :D
I see yer U21s took a beating, did ye not think you had a great team this year?

Oh no,
Not content with the Antrim Thread,
You're invading the Cavan one now :P  :D
we arent that bad,it was just a terrible day at the office.
Very disappointed in our under 21's, expected a good run at Ulster this year,But as usual they fail to deliver.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Maximus Marillius on March 19, 2007, 01:45:40 PM
I was reading this thread on different occassions, and the think that puzzles me is how many of the posters here convinced themselves that they had a team that could win the competion. I mean, ye were well beaten. Was Keogan manager of the team?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on March 19, 2007, 01:50:31 PM
yeh
Cavan management system always seems to have the same manager for Under 21's and Seniors,Maybe thats something that would want to be looked at.Perhaps someone who can concentrate fully on the under 21's would be better.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: The Bottom Brick on March 19, 2007, 03:01:01 PM
A lot of the lads on that Under 21 team are over hyped - Mackey, Martin Reilly, Dermot Sheridan to name but three...

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on March 19, 2007, 03:18:27 PM
always thought Dermot Sheridan had the makings of a good County Senior cornerback,
Mackey is definetely overrated, a good player,but hasnt produced anything for the county since Minor
i think Martin Reily will make the grade,But he needs to seriously bulk up,ive seen him disposessed too easy.

i heard from a clubmate that Michael McDonald played well on Saturday,Do yous agree?
wouldnt mind see him tried alongside Mulvey at Centre Field against Antrim with McCabe at Full Forward.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: The Bottom Brick on March 19, 2007, 04:37:45 PM
I wouldnt rate Sheridan highly at all

Mackey is a one trick pony but he's only 19, he still has time and he could develop yet

McDonald had a superb first half but wasn't in the match after the break

I like your idea about Mulvey/McDonald/McCabe...I'd love to see McCabe in a full forward line with Jason and Jelly, I'm not convinced by Pierson since he has come back from injury

What about giving Mulvey a chance on the edge of the square??

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on March 19, 2007, 04:44:13 PM
Mulvey as a targetman could definetely work,
i just wonder does McCabe have the legs for midfield when the ground gets harder come May.
I think Gallagaher has cemented his place in the full forward line now,with his free taking abilities and all, and it will be a 3 way battle between Jelly/Jayo and Pierson for the other corner forward position.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on March 19, 2007, 05:25:05 PM
Absolutely deplorable second-half display from our u21s on Saturday. Would have to blame some bad decisions on the line for a lot of this. I'll go for BallyhaiseMan style report for those that couldn't make it.

1. Simon Delaney - Not much he could do about the goal made a good save late on, decent kickouts..... 8

2. Declan McCabe - Had the task of picking up Bernard O'Brien (anyone who went to St. Pats would remember his namesake and father, aka Bob). Done well in the first half but was a mile of him in the second..... 5

3. Dermot Sheridan - Tried hard to contain the massive full-forward, broke most high balls..... 7

4. Fergal Slowey - Had his hands full trying to stop Monaghan's speed merchant. Like McCabe, he lost this battle in the second half...... 7

5. Finbar Jordan - One of our better backs but should have drove forward a bit more..... 7

6. Padriac O'Reilly - Not one of Podges better games. Tactic in the first half seemed to involve podge dropping back of his man and covering the space in front of the FF and Slowey's man with Flanagan playing a third midfielder and covering in front of CHF. This worked well but for some strange reason they moved Flano up front in the second half. Podge looked sluggish, I presume he wasn't 100%...... 6

7. Cormac Geoghan - Very poor, let his man through on a couple of occasions and didn't offer us anything regards attacking. Replaced early in second-half should have been earlier...... 5

8. Micheal McDonald - Good in Patches, scored a fine point but should have had another. Monaghan had a horse of a fella midfield and he even towered over McDonald. Struggled to compete with him and lost the aerial battle...... 7

9. Micheal Cunningham - Needed to perform better considering McDonald had his hands full. Great speed to him when he wants to use it..... 6

10. Martin Reilly - Our best player worked tirelessly and constantly tackled back. Made two great blocks in the second half inside our own 21 but he played to deep to be a danger to the mushroom pickers..... 8

11. Raymond Galligan - How the fella lasted the 60 minutes is beyond me. Scored a couple of early frees but then he missed an easy one and the confidence went, that was it for Ray and he continued to put them wide all through the game. Moved to FF after 15 minutes. Had some great ball played into him in the first half but he was to slow to win it. He spent the second half hiding behind his man...... 4

12. Cian Mackey - Did NOTHING, gave a one-two in the second-half, that was his first and last bit of possession. Taken off with ten minutes to go but don't know how Keoghan & co even looked at him for that long...... 1

13. Geroid Collins - Played in more of WHF role and worked hard with majority of Cavan attacks coming up his wing. Totally mystified as to why he was replaced by Liam Duignan at HT...... 7

14. Raymond Cullivan - Played very well especially considering the injury. Fielded a few great balls when moved to CHF, should have had more high balls played into him when at FF..... 8

15. Ronan Flanagan - Played well in first half as a third midfielder. Puzzled as to why the management moved him up front. Worked hard throughout the game one of our better players. Sent off in injury time, by the reaction of his man he didn't seem to have done much.... 8

Subs

Liam Duignan - Came on for Collins at HT, played in on the square. A bit slow and was unable to get any possession...... 5

Enda McCormack - Replaced Geoghan ten minutes into second half. Didn't show any signs of an injury and played quite well...... 7

Aaron Duignan - For Mackey. Not on long enough to rate.

Another year and another disappointment. Would have to put a lot of the blame on the management, made some bad decisions and failed to make the right ones in time.

On another note our home game to Gowna was called off yesterday due to the pitch being unplayable (it actually wasn't too bad). Probably for the best as there was a few sore heads about the dressing room after Trevor Crowe's wedding.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: trim blue on March 19, 2007, 07:31:31 PM
Homer, any truth in the rumour on Hoganstand that Gaynor started back with the county last week?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on March 19, 2007, 11:25:34 PM
Quote from: trim blue on March 19, 2007, 07:31:31 PM
Homer, any truth in the rumour on Hoganstand that Gaynor started back with the county last week?

I'm afraid not. Gaynor is flying at training BTW.

You can pretty much take it for sure that Miller hasn't quit, and Elliot is not back either.

Some results from the weekend (Disclaimer: according to Aertel!!).

Division 1
Cuchullains 0-06 1-11 Mullahoran
Denn        1-11 1-10 Kingscourt
Ballyhaise   0-02 3-13 Cavan Gaels

Division 2
Drung       3-02 0-05 Lavey
Cootehill    0-11 1-07 Killygarry
Redhills      2-07 0-07 Laragh
Drumgoon 1-08 0-05 Swad
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on March 20, 2007, 11:51:07 AM
Was at Clones on Saturday and given that I also had high hopes for our U21s this year, I have to say I was embarrassed leaving.

It was the worst performance and defeat I've ever witnessed from a Cavan underage side and that's saying something when you consider the large corpus of disasters they've been involved in over the years. If there's any small bitter consolation it's that this game didn't follow the familiar pattern of playing well for 55 minutes before losing by a point to less deserving or less skilled opponents; instead we were beaten out the gate fair and square from 1 to 15. Well done to Monaghan, not nice to have your colours lowered so mercilessly by the neighbours but you have to lift your cap to the better team. How good they are can't be gauged by this game though, so utterly wretched were Cavan, but credit where it's due and best of luck to the Farney men later on. The world really doesn't need another Tyrone/Derry U21 success in Ulster and it'd be nice to see someone different win it for a change.

Physique played a big role in this defeat. Monaghan were huge in comparison to Cavan and with the genius of hindsight this Cavan side was apparently great among the lighter ranks of minor but simply haven't grown enough to compete at U21. Man to man, each Monaghan player had three to four inches in height and at least a half stone advantage over the Cavan man, with the exception of the two lads we had in midfield and Cullivan. Everywhere else we were getting skittled out of it in 50-50s. The Parnells team that contested the U21 final in Cavan were all big men - should some of them not have been involved here, no? A moot point now anyway.

Tactically we were totally inept. Anyone with a passing interest in gaelic football will know that your best hope of beating a strong, big physical side is to run them around the pitch with quick, snappy ball and use the spaces. Instead Cavan attacked laterally and ponderously like men in hob nailed boots running through a field of freshly-laid tar. Our hand passes from short distance weren't even finding their mark, the odd occasion when we kick passed, the efforts were risible. It totally played into Monaghan's hands.

We started with Cullivan and Mackey inside and presumably were supposed to hit them with early ball after having belatedly worked the ball into some sort of space around the midfield. It never came in properly, not once, and if it did, weeks too late and only after Monaghan had assembled the mass ranks. Both lads were moved out after about 20 minutes and the men we left inside in their stead never won a single ball all day - although in fairness to them it either came in far too slow, or inaccurately, on the odd occasion we did manage to engineer some sort of an opening.

From 0-4 apeice at the break to 1-10 to 0-4 down after approx 15 mins of the second half tells its own story. Monaghan brought on a few subs at the break, small, nippy fast lads and suddenly they started picking out the corner forwards with low diagonal ball, which brought the other forwards, who had threatened only in flashes in first half, very firmly into the game. This may have been due to the move of our covering defender as someone noted above. Either way the floodgates opened and there was no response from the line. I can only assume that Keogan was there on his own with no Grimley, else I'd be very worried for the seniors too.

Very deflating all things told. Not a scrap of anything positive could you take from it, apart from maybe Flanagan and the number 10. A better sideline team might have got more out of the team but I still think Monaghan's size would have counted in the end. It's all finished for another year now anyway.

Just on Mackey - this guy will never be a gaelic footballer IMO. Total luxury, total waste of space. If other guys aren't doing the dirty work for him and handing him the ball in space, he just doesn't want to know. All hype and no substance and a dreadful disappointment in a Cavan shirt from day one.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on March 20, 2007, 12:57:52 PM
Quote from: cavanmaniac on March 20, 2007, 11:51:07 AM
I can only assume that Keogan was there on his own with no Grimley, else I'd be very worried for the seniors too.

I thought the same myself and it was only in the dying stages did I spot Keoghan talking to Grimley in the dugouts. He obviously took a much more relaxed role with the u21s than he does with the seniors (where he runs the whole operation imo).
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on March 20, 2007, 02:26:17 PM
Anyone know who the Lavey manager is.  A small heavy fella with glasses who spends most of his time trying to  wind up the opposition players?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on March 20, 2007, 02:29:51 PM
Brian Comesky(spelling probably wrong)?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on March 20, 2007, 02:31:07 PM
For the under 21's its time i think to have seperate managers for the senior and Under 21's,Let one man concentrate fully on each job.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on March 20, 2007, 02:44:43 PM
what happened against the gaels ballyhaiseman?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on March 20, 2007, 02:47:34 PM
One of those days,where nothing went right.
we have all had them :(
Only not many teams punish you like the Gaels.
Good win for Drung against Lavey 3-2 to 0-5.
Ciaran Galligan scored two goals at full forward? hed be a handful in there alright.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on March 20, 2007, 02:54:30 PM
yeah he was good along side barry watters.  He played there when we were playing with the wind and then came out to midfield for the second half i think he is still growing if thats possible!!. 
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on March 20, 2007, 03:10:12 PM
He hasnt got a shot at claiming a place in the national league so far, Hopefully,Keoghan/Grimley were at the game.
id prefer him at midfield,but hed be some option at full forward,
Still growing  :D
jaysus he must be 6'5 or 6'6 now so.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on March 20, 2007, 03:24:19 PM
Yeah id like to see him get a chance but i don't think he will because the managment seem to have a good idea of the  team picked from positions 1-12.  Will Flanagan get a month or 3 months ?  what he do?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on March 20, 2007, 03:25:49 PM
6'5 or 6'6? Jesus Christ.

I recall that lad playing for the U21s in the Ulster final against Down, is it the same guy? Was with the senior panel too under Coleman the same year but got a bad injury shortly after, I think it's the guy I'm thinking off. He has the size and physique anyway, but don't recall being overly impressed with his mobility or use of the ball but might be wrong...

Nobody seems to know what Flanagan did by the way, including Flanagan himself and the player he fouled by all accounts.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on March 20, 2007, 03:31:01 PM
He is very mobile but his use of the ball wouldn't be the best.  He could run the length of the field and kick the ball wide 3-4 times a game.   Probably isn't good enough for inter county but is Walsh or mulvey (has improved alot during this year)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on March 20, 2007, 04:05:55 PM
Didn't see much regarding the Flanagan incident, Play had been stopped at the opposite end of the field and the referee made his way down to the umpire who was signalling his attention. After a brief consultation he walked over to Flano who was standing a couple of yards away and looked to be very astonished that he was about to be booked. The referee raised the red card and both Flano and his man looked at him with shock, his opponent then proceeded to sympathise with him. Flano then made a bee-line for the umpire; he was pulled away by his own man and began walking off the pitch towards the side line. Everybody turned away to continue with the action and Flano turned around and walked straight back up to umpire and had a few words with him. He was again pulled away by team mates and made his way for the side line once again. Keoghan had made his way out to meet Flanagan and as he did Flano appeared to push/strike him. This brought a bit of gasp from the crowd but he was only demonstrating what had happened on the pitch, showing Keoghan what the umpire perceived as a red card offence.

If the referee puts Flanagan down for striking only he will get one month, but if he also mentions abusing an official he will get three!

Great to see Ciaran Galligan back playing football again.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on March 21, 2007, 03:12:56 PM
Cavan defeated by Tyrone in Ulster VS inter-county (U-18) football final Report from Hoganstand
21 March 2007


Cavan vocational schools inter-county team failed in their effort to win this season's Ulster schools inter-county (U-18) football final when in O'Neill Park, Clontibret on Tuesday, 20th of March they went under to Tyrone on a scoreline of 2-15 to 1-11.

As the scoreline would suggest this was a thrilling decider from start to finish between two talented sides, with the Tyrone side have that extra edge in attack which saw them sweep to their fourth title in a row at this grade.

Despite the cold and windy conditions both sides served up a memorable game of top-class football which saw both sides go on all-out attack from the off. Over the hour there was some brilliant football, great scores and some tremendous individual performances. In the end, the greater strength in depth of the Tyrone side proved the difference.

With the wind at their backs in the opening half, Tyrone raced into a six points lead after ten minutes play. However, as the half progressed the Cavan side worked their way back into the game and at the interval they trailed by 1-10 to 0-5.

As expected it was Cavan who forced the pace at the start of the second-half, but they were finding the Tyrone defence hard to break down. They were hit by a sucker punch midway through the half when the Tyrone side worked a quick free which sent Paul McAleer clear and he sent to the Breffni net to give his side a nine points lead.

To the credit of the Cavan side they never dropped their heads and they were right back in the match when the impressiv Conor Smith taking a pass from Adrian Cole sent to the Tyrone net. They continued to press forward but despite having plenty of possession they could only add a further two points to their tally.

In the end, Tyrone finished the game strongly adding four points to their tally for a deserved and impressive victory.

This final was a great advertisement for vocational schools football in both counties, and the teams have to be complimented for a thrilling decider in far from ideal playing conditions.

Tyrone – G. Kelly; C. Hegarty, C. Carson, G. Corey; P. Martin, S. Robinson capt., B. McGarvey; P. Devlin, S. Curran; P. McAleer 2-5, 2 frees, K. Corr, M. Rodgers 0-4; P. McNeice 0-1, K. Coney 0-3, D. Carson.
Subs – J. Donnelly 0-1 for K. Corr; G. Treanor 0-1 for K. Coney.

Cavan – A. O'Meara; S. Cooney, B. Coleman, D. Foxe; C. Quinn, P. Carroll, K. Rooney; E. Keating 0-4, one free, J. McEnroe; B. Tully 0-1, B. Watters 0-1, A. Cole 0-2; F. Tackney, C. Smith 1-2, R. Dunne 0-2.
Subs – C. Sexton for C. Quinn; F. Flanagan for K. Rooney.

Referee – B. Rooney from Armagh.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on March 21, 2007, 03:17:11 PM
Typical cavan team  ::)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on March 21, 2007, 05:13:30 PM
Wasn't able to go to the U21 match at the weekend. Sounds like it was a total disaster. At the start of the season a lot of us here had mentioned a good performance by the U21's in Ulster being a central part of us having a good season. That has been well and truly blown to pieces. As I understand it nothing much went right for us on the approach to the match with Cullivan playing though injured and Podge playing with the flu. That still doesn't account for such a hammering.

I get this horrible feeling the wheels are loosening a bit on the wagon and i'm just hoping they don't fall off. The seniors have put in two medicore performances in the last two outings. I'd like to see us go up to Belfast and rip into Antrim like it was a championship match - just to get the heads confident again.

As for the wish list for the rest of the seaon - I'll stick with Seniors getting promotion as goal no 1. Beating Down in the championship and maybe Monaghan and having a couple of games in the back door as goal No 2. Dare I say it, could goal number 3 be a decent run in Ulster for our minors??? How do you all rate this years team? Please don't tell me they are the best we've ever produced or i'll cry.

I heard the rumour about gaynor being back. If hes not then that is him done for the season I think. That will be prooven to be a mistake in my opinion.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on March 21, 2007, 07:14:38 PM
Yep, just about sums it all up at the moment. There is a worrying feeling that the closer we get to the business end of the season and the better prepared our opponents get, the worse the seniors are starting to look. A bit early for doom and gloom though, we're still unbeaten and the Wexford game will tell us all we need to know about progress under Grimley.

Your senior goals are realistic I think, hopefully they get realised. As for the minors, I'm not going to ask or inquire as to their prospects in the hope that ignoring them will somehow coax a convincing season from them for once.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on March 22, 2007, 08:45:44 AM
Quote from: cavanmaniac on March 21, 2007, 07:14:38 PM
A bit early for doom and gloom though, we're still unbeaten and the Wexford game will tell us all we need to know about progress under Grimley.


Id b worried about Antrim first they are capable of giving cavan alot of problems.  Heard that ciarian galligan is starting which id be wary about aswell.

Don't seen the fixture on Aertel  ::)  . it's a 3.30 throw-in in belfast isn't it?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: shotstopper1 on March 22, 2007, 10:29:13 AM
If we were supposed to have that good an U-21 panel why was it necessary to play Cullivan, at only 18, whilst injured, and risk putting his development back years.This has being a major problem with management down through the years,too many good young footballers with plenty of potential (the most recent being Lyng) ruined by the stupidpidty (or greediness) of their managers.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on March 22, 2007, 02:11:55 PM
C4ever
the game is at 7 or 7.30 Saturday night under floodlights.
i dont know the full team
But i know Gunner is injured
Michael Hannon and Jonathon Crowe are starting.
Lorcan Mulvey replaces Walshe in Midfield
Ray Cullivan and Ciaran Galligan have been brought into attack.

shotstopper
Ray Cullivan was supposed to have damaged his medial ligaments a few weeks ago for DCU Freshers,something which is nomraly a 6 week recovery,Now i know the guy is hard as nails and all,so you could chop a week or two off that,But still id question whether playing him again Monaghan and Antrim this weekend is worth it Long term.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on March 22, 2007, 02:17:00 PM
Cavan ring the changes From Hoganstand
22 March 2007


Cavan manager Donal Keogan has made five changes from the side that edged out Sligo in the last round for Saturday night's floodlit NFL Division 2B clash with Antrim.

There are two changes in defence which see Michael Hannon and Jonathan Crowe replace Paul Brady and Michael Brennan. Lorcan Mulvey comes in for the injured Nicholas Walsh at midfield where he will partner veteran Dermot McCabe.

The remaining changes see Ray Cullivan and Ciaran Galligan named in attack.

Cavan (SF v Antrim): J Reilly; M Cahill, A Forde, K Fannin; M Hannon, E Reilly, J Crowe; D McCabe, L Mulvey; R Cullivan, M McKeever, C Galligan; G Pierson, R Gallagher, J O'Reilly.



Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on March 22, 2007, 03:07:11 PM
Its county policy to destroy young players before they develop fully.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on March 22, 2007, 03:41:25 PM
It's one of few policies they have that's implementened consistently and achieves its objectives, don't knock it... ::)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on March 22, 2007, 04:46:50 PM
Anyone goin sat nite??  What time do u reckon it would be when a man would be back in cavan after the game?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on March 22, 2007, 04:55:57 PM
well if game at 7.30
probably late starting so 7.35
Half time allowing for stoppages 8.15
Second half start 8.30
End at 9.10pm
Back in Cavan in id say around 2 hours
so 11 most likely.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on March 22, 2007, 04:59:40 PM
wouldnt b 2 bad have a 21st to go to so that would be time enuf..  are u going urself ??
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on March 22, 2007, 05:10:31 PM
as of today im going,with this being a free weekend football wise,
a night out in Belfast after a Cavan thumping of the saffrons :P sounds good.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on March 22, 2007, 05:11:57 PM
yeah why didn't i think of that  ???
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: shotstopper1 on March 23, 2007, 12:15:13 PM
That's 6 changes from the Sligo game (Miller).Seems a lot, and to be still sticking with Forde at FB is just plain stupid.He hasn't really impressed there in any of the games and they really should give someone else a try out there.It's strange how they seemed to sense they needed to replace him at FB for the Wicklow game and when that didn't work they never bothered trying anyone else since. It looks like that the management are putting all their eggs in one basket hoping that Rabbitte will be (and stay) fully fit for the championship.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: PoloGrounds on March 23, 2007, 03:32:06 PM
The team for this weekend is overall a stronger outfit than appeared against Sligo.
It truely was an awful game.Although gunner is a major loss in the half back line it is good to see Hannon back playing.
Not too sure about Crowe,he apparently looked good in the early McKenna Cup games so deserves his chance.Although Flanagan is a good prospect he is on the small side and we need more strength all over the field.

Mulvey in for Walshe should prove interesting.We are struggling badly to get a 2nd midfielder and I fear Mulvey is another impact player as opposed to one who can do it for a full 70 mins.

In the forwards Cullivan is our shining light, a great prospect but I echo the sentiments re flogging him at this early stage in his career.Mackey was poor the last time out and reports of his performance in the U21 match do not read well.I dont think he is going to be up to it at inter county level

Cunningham had performed quite well in the early games but was poor last time out so I think Galligan coming in fresh with an opportunity to impress cant weaken the half forward line

Overall I think we should take this one by 5/6.Would be nice to see Jayo back on the goal scorers list.

Not overly confident re championship time.Down are beatable but Monaghan are looking good.

At least it cant be much worse than last year

55 years and counting!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on March 26, 2007, 09:28:52 AM
Anyone go saturday nite,  who played well ??
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: shotstopper1 on March 26, 2007, 10:10:18 AM
Reports


From Hogan Stand

Two cracking first half goals helped propel NFL Division 2B promotion chasing Cavan to a fine 3-10 to 0-15 win over hosts Antrim at Casement Park.

Cavan had to come from behind to win though after Antrim had made the better start and raced into a 0-2 to 0-0 lead after four minutes.

However two minutes later Cavan got on the winning trail when Jason Reilly turned his marker 15 metres out and raced clear before netting in fine style.

Things got worse for Antrim in the 21st minute when ex-Fermanagh player Rory Gallagher put his captain Mark McKeever through for a neat goal.

Paddy Cunningham helped keep Antrim in touch with three converted frees but Cavan still held a comfortable 2-6 to 0-8 lead at the interval.

Antrim played better in the third quarter and they managed to close the gap to 0-13 to 2-8 but points by Gerald Pierson and Larry Reilly gave Cavan some relief.

Then three minutes from time Dermot McCabe wrapped up victory for Cavan when he netted from the penalty spot after a foot block on Lorcan Mulvey.



From Indo

Cavan 3-10
Antrim 0-15

CAVAN dished out another dose of the blues to Antrim in Saturday night's Allianz FL battle at Casement Park with the Breffni men's win keeping them in pole position in Division 2B.
Still, the four-point margin was a little flattering to Cavan who only sealed victory in the closing stages when Dermot McCabe smashed the ball to the net from the penalty spot after his midfield colleague Lorcan Mulvey was foot-blocked in front of goals.
That score put Cavan five points ahead before Ciarán Close tossed over Antrim's final score.
After Antrim led by 0-2 to 0-0, Cavan struck the first blow as Jason Reilly turned his marker and from close range drilled the ball to the Saffrons' net in the fifth minute.
The second hammer blow was delivered in the 21st minute by Marc McKeever as the visitors surged to a 2-6 to 0-8 half-time lead.


SCORERS - Antrim: M McCann 0-5 (1f); P Cunningham 0-4f; D Martin 0-2; S McVeigh, K Brady, E O'Neill, C Close 0-1 each. Cavan: G Pearson 0-6 (1f); M McKeever 1-1; J Reilly 1-1; D McCabe 1-0 pen; R Cullivan, L O'Reilly 0-1f.
ANTRIM - J Finucane; C Brady, P Doherty, G Bell; C McGoldrick, J Quinn, S McVeigh; D Martin, M McCann; K Brady, E O'Neill, A Gallagher; C Close, M Rea, P Cunningham. Subs: J Loughrey for C Brady (23), P Close for Loughrey (32), K Niblock for Rea (54), C McGourty for O'Neill (58).
CAVAN - J Reilly; M Cahill, A Forde, K Fannin; M Brennan, E Reilly, J Crowe; D McCabe, L Mulvey; R Cullivan, M McKeever, C Galligan; G Pearson, R Gallagher, J Reilly. Subs: M Hannon for Crowe (19), L Reilly for Cullivan (36), M Reilly for Gallagher (61),
REF - S McNamee (Tyrone).










Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on March 26, 2007, 11:09:20 AM
Sounds like another nervy enough victory with the by-now traditional 15 minute fade out thrown in.

Five points from play by Pierson is very encouraging though all the same, less so is the non-appearance of Rabbitte and no word on when his return will be. And even when he does, can we bank on him to stay fit - I don't think so given his colourful medical history.

What did people who attended think of the performance? How did Ciaran Galligan do?

All boils down to a big promotion showdown with Wexford next Sunday now. On current form Wexford look a bit stronger maybe but you'd hope that home advantage and the sense of occasion and what's at stake will drag a big performance out of our lads, akin to the McKenna game with Derry or against Meath in the first round. Besides, Wexford and Meath have to play each other in the final round and one or the other could do us a favour there if we need it, provided we do the business against Waterford which you wouldn't take for granted either of course. ;)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: trim blue on March 26, 2007, 12:27:12 PM
Keoghan was on Northern Sound this morning and said that Rabbitt is over his injury but just hasn't played any games. He says that Walsh and Sean Brady will be back for next week but that Cullivan has a dead leg and is doubtful. Cullivan is accruing the injuries now and that is ominous both for the lad himself and the county, but sure we'll never learn. BTW does anyone have any news on John Tierney? Hope Gunner is available as he has been very good so far. Keoghan says too that he was impressed with how Galligan played having been out for so long. Midfield seems to be an ongoing problem with Antrim seemingly doing well there too. Whatever about the Wexford game we will need the likes of Galligans size against Waterford as our loss to then last year was a lot to do with the fact that they had big men in every line. Seems that Sligo were again unlucky not to at least draw with Wexford. They missed a late penalty to draw and had Wexford hanging on for the last 15 mins so hopefully Wexfords form isn't too hot at the moment either.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on March 26, 2007, 02:33:33 PM
Cheers for that Trimblue, didn't see a report on Sligo so if Wexford are having a few problems then it leaves things looking a little easier. It'll still be a tight one at Kingspan Breffni Park though.

Good info there on Keoghan on Northern Mound too. I think everyone has the fingers crossed for Rabbitte this year. It's clear that if he's not fit, we're fucked unless Podge makes himself available or Hannon gets a run there but you wouldn't be too inspired by either option really.

Tierney is someone I haven't heard mentioned in a while. The rumour months ago was that he was playing in America and was "flying" and so on but people just put these things out for the craic sometimes I think. I certainly heard nothing concrete to the effect that he was back playing, had lost weight or was fit etc., but perhaps some of the home-based snoops might know something more recent on that particular issue.

It's a good time to bring up the case of Tierney, if it appears even slightly that we're going the same way with Cullivan, yet again another guy who hasn't even made a senior reputation before he's being leaned on too heavily. Tierney was shaping up as a serious ball-winning option at full-forward for us under Eamon Coleman before the bits started falling off him again, if he ever was to make a return in any sort of shape I'd be delighted.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on March 26, 2007, 09:57:15 PM
Didn't go to Belfast but listened to it on Northern Sound for my sins. As far as I can gather from listening to that lunatic Tynan is that we were just slightly the better team. Very worryingly we seemed to lose midfield 40/60 throughout the game with Antrims McCann running riot. It also seemed that Antrim were pissing through our half back line. I think we were saved by a very poor Antrim full back line that leaks goals and the fact that we got goals at vital times is what won this game. As I suspected the lack of gaynor is starting to show, I don't think chesty is as good in that position as Gaynor. According to Tynan Galligan played well. Crowe was taken off after only 15/20 minutes and replaced by Hannon. No mention if he was injured. Hannon supposedly played well. I think it will be a big struggle against Wexford next w'end and I am more hopeful than confident. One win is all we need to get us over the line so hopefully the team will pull a big performace out.

To end here is a line from Tynan "Antrim are the only county in Ireland, if not in whole world, to contest two all irelands in the same year"????
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on March 26, 2007, 11:29:22 PM
The best example of legendary Tynan-esque bullshittery came when we were playing Limerick in the qualifiers under Mattie Kerrigan. We'd lose the replay in Breffni but in the drawn match it was in extra time and Peter Reilly had a late free to level it. As he was addressing the kick Tynan launched into some atypical nonsensical shpiel about Mickey someone or other who'd played for Limerick against Cavan in a minor game in Ringaskiddy in 1924 the same day Mick Collins wore brown shoes instead of black for the first time because he had a piseog about that although he had a fondness for turnips after his grandmother who's own mother was from near Killeshandra yadda yadda yadda, all the while not telling us all at home in Cavan with out tongues hanging out, if Reilly had saved a draw. The crowd cheered in the background and we were left to wonder was it our fans or Limerick's. Eventually Tynan came back from Useless Information Waffle Waffle la-la Land to tell us the entirely incidental info that Reilly had in fact tapped over the free and Cavan had a draw.

I tell you, the man wants shooting sometimes. Always rambling with total bullshit info nobody wants to hear instead of talking about the match.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on March 26, 2007, 11:33:15 PM
Northern Sound seriously need some new Match commentators alright,didnt make it down to Casement as was otherwise occupied.
that man tynan makes me want to pull my hair out.  >:(
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: shotstopper1 on March 27, 2007, 10:11:07 AM
Tynan's a dose alright, but at least now he's telling us the score more often.Jaysus there was a time there that he could go through the whole game and only give the score at half-time and full-time and even these he got wrong.I do believe that Northern Sound got a number of complaints about this and he has sorted his act out on this aspect.Why commentators fell they need to do a MO'M when they can't is beyond me.All they need to do is a bit of homework on the two squads and tell us whats happening on the field.For a man who's being commentating on Cavan games this last number of years he seems to find it difficult to pick out the players.(Maybe his eyesight isn't the best).On Sat when Cullivan got injured he picked him out through a process of elimination(it's Dermot McCabe no its not it Mckeever no its not and so forth) ,surely any spectator that was there with a decent vantage point would've known who it was in a few seconds.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on March 27, 2007, 10:20:35 AM
Wexford game is Sunday according to Aertel.  I though it was fixed to be on saturday evening.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on March 27, 2007, 11:22:34 AM
It better feckin' not be on Saturday. I'll only get to the game if it's on Sunday - my first senior game this year. I won't be impressed if they switch it to Saturday.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on March 27, 2007, 11:36:03 AM
Sure it must be on sunday.. do u have the fixtures for this weekend league games??
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on March 27, 2007, 11:44:41 AM
31/03    NFL 1A    Kerry v Tyrone    Tralee    7.30pm
31/03    NFL 1B    Laois v Armagh    Portlaoise    7.30pm
31/03    NFL 2B    Meath v Waterford    Páirc Tailteann    7.30pm
01/04    NFL 1A    Fermanagh v Cork    Clones    3.30pm
01/04    NFL 1A    Mayo v Dublin    Castlebar    3.30pm
01/04    NFL 1A    Limerick v Donegal    Páirc na nGael    1.45pm
01/04    NFL 1B    Down v Derry    Newcastle    3.30pm
01/04    NFL 1B    Louth v Galway    Dowdallshill    2pm
01/04    NFL 1B    Westmeath v Kildare    Cusack Park    3.30pm
01/04    NFL 2A    Monaghan v Offaly    Clones    1.45pm
01/04    NFL 2A    Roscommon v Leitrim    Hyde Park    3.30pm
01/04    NFL 2A    Clare v London    TBC    3.30pm
01/04    NFL 2A    Carlow v Longford    Dr Cullen Park    1.45pm
01/04    NFL 2B    Sligo v Antrim    Markievicz Park    3.30pm
*01/04*    NFL 2B    Cavan v Wexford    Breffni Park    3.30pm
01/04    NFL 2B    Tipperary v Wicklow    Ardfinnan    3.30pm

8)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on March 27, 2007, 12:00:58 PM
It will be good to get back to breffini on a Sunday!  Saturday games are alright but it good to get out for a few hours on a sunday and clear the head !!!!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on March 27, 2007, 03:20:45 PM
i would actually prefer the Saturday Night games under lights,But i makes little difference in reality.

On Keoghans interview on Northern Sound,id like to see Rabbitte back playing as soon as possible, hes the only back we have that can physically cope with Benny Coulter (if hes at full forward) in May.
Michael Hannon is the best man marker in the county,But Coulter was just too strong for him last year.
Hows Larry getting on? does he have the weight off? he still had a bit to get off when i seen him against Sligo.
Disappointed at Crowe being taken off after 20 minutes on Saturday,he seemed prominent enough judging by the commentary.

Not so worried about Midfield now,as it will be pick two out of three from Mulvey,McCabe and Galligan with the odd man out going into the forward line.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: trim blue on March 27, 2007, 06:13:16 PM
B'haiseman, do you see any role for Walsh? On the basis alone of his physique and athleticism I would think he should be in there, what was he like against Sligo before going off injured? I also think that he is a better option than McCabe at full-forward when it comes to putting a big man in there. Have to say I'm a bit uneasy about Sunday, we seem to be papering over the cracks a bit over the last 3 matches and its worrying that Antrim could score against us 13 times, hopefully we can get a good win and then lay the Waterford ghost which would set us up nicely for the c'ship. Great to see Pierson getting 5 from play on Sat, for me he is our most naturally talented forward and would get a place on most teams in Ireland when he's on form. Does anyone know if its true that Johnstone broke a bone in his foot?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on March 27, 2007, 06:25:50 PM
Quote from: trim blue on March 27, 2007, 06:13:16 PM
B'haiseman, do you see any role for Walsh? On the basis alone of his physique and athleticism I would think he should be in there, what was he like against Sligo before going off injured? I also think that he is a better option than McCabe at full-forward when it comes to putting a big man in there. Have to say I'm a bit uneasy about Sunday, we seem to be papering over the cracks a bit over the last 3 matches and its worrying that Antrim could score against us 13 times, hopefully we can get a good win and then lay the Waterford ghost which would set us up nicely for the c'ship. Great to see Pierson getting 5 from play on Sat, for me he is our most naturally talented forward and would get a place on most teams in Ireland when he's on form. Does anyone know if its true that Johnstone broke a bone in his foot?

Walsh woulde be my preferred option at full forward if they were going the route of having a targetman,McCabe probably doesnt have the athleticism and  to be an effective targetman,ive seen him at full forward before and the ball can bevery easily broke away from him.He caused trouble for Sligo when he went into full forward,before he got injured,Hes a definite option there.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on March 27, 2007, 08:49:57 PM
I have only one problem with playing Walsh FF and that is we have only given him around 15 minutes there in a competitive game (against Sligo) in which he received one decent ball, won it and was blocked when shooting for goal. I don't think it is practical just throwing a guy in there and booting huge inaccurate crap balls in his general direction. If this is a strategy we want to work on then we should be trying it out in a few games. The key to having a big ball winning FF is the quality of the ball going in. The last time we got that right was against Down in Breffni in the champ a couple of yrs ago, before that vrs Roscommon in Mullingar in a league semi few years earlier. I am concerned that we are a one tick pony and pretty predictable at the moment.

What would you think about a Pierson + johnson/Jason 2 man FF line with Walsh, Mulvey and McCabe in the middle?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on March 27, 2007, 10:34:57 PM
Walsh, Mulvey and McCabe will get up to alot of ball, whether they catch it or not is a moot point. Cavan have generally opted to spoil in recent years in any case. Walsh is cut out for that sort of negative role and it worked well two years ago until Maughan copped on and we got cleaned out of it in the qualifier game against Mayo.

My preference though would be a McCabe, Mulvey midfield. McCabe will break and win his share, Mulvey too but the latter has a bit more pace (not much) about him. Either way, half back and half forward line need to be on the ball big style; McKeever, Gunner, Forde, Sean Brady etc. And don't forget we have big Ciaran Galligan as a potentially useful third midfielder option if he holds up in the next few games.

The real key point is the delivery to the inside men which needs to be good for smallish men and McCabe definitely has this in his locker. With that in mind I'd stick Walshe inside at 14 and play Johnston and Pierson off him, if the two smaller lads are tied up, Walsh in theory is a good out-ball to hang up there and see what comes off him. It wouldn't need to be inch perfect either as he can bust his way through and clear a space for himself, although too innaccurate is no good as the fecker can't run.

One other thing - Walsh should NEVER be allowed shoot. Win ball, lay it off, those would be the instructions. ;D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: trim blue on March 27, 2007, 11:21:42 PM
For better or worse I think McCabe needs to be in midfield, firstly he is still our best man at delivering ball into the forwards and secondly it is a myth that he is a good FF which is based solely on his demolition of Down in 04, think of him in the replay against Tyrone in 05 and more recently against them in the McKenna Cup when he was moved in after about 20 mins, he got 1 point and had every other ball blocked away from him, Walsh was then put in there for the last 15 mins and while I admit we were practically beaten at that stage he cleanly won or broke down ball for the forwards about 7 times and we ended up scoring around 4 points in a row. His big fault is that he has a foot like a triangle and as maniac says he shouldn't be allowed shoot. While there is more football in Mulvey I would still favour Walsh in MF as he will always get up and his man will catch less clean ball than would be the case with Mulvey, he has a better engine too for getting up and down the park. Mulvey or Galligan could be a third midfielder option ....
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on March 28, 2007, 12:06:40 AM
It's great for once to have a bit of choice about who should play midfield. Lets just hope the sick bay stays as quiet as it has been so far this year. As regards some of the 3rd midfielder suggestions, I don't see any point in playing three big men in the middle (ala McCabe, Walsh,  Mulvey or Galligan) much better to have two big men (McCabe and Mulvey for me) and a mobile man that can collect the breaks. Sean Brady would probably be ideal after his exploits with UCD.

I agree with the sentiments about the importance of the type of ball played into the full forward line. Some people (and apparently some of the players) seem to think that putting McCabe in the square and ballooning balls into him is the answer. But if people recall the infamous Down game it was relatively low, hard and accurate balls that went into McCabe delivered from the half back line. Although unfortunately I recall most of them balls coming in from Gaynor.

Seems Podge won't be going into the seniors. Himself and possibly Damien McInerney are heading to NY to play ball this summer. Very worrying news for a Ballinagh man.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on March 28, 2007, 06:32:40 AM
As a very much part time punter my money is on a draw on Sunday. Ever since we conceded a point via a last minute goal to the Rials in game one, I decided that if we were to go up it would all come down to a last day job with us needing to beat Waterford-kind of poetic if you think about it. Also, when did Cavan ever make it easy on themselves. So that requires either a loss or a draw against Wexford, take the odds on a draw for the crack.

Simple key to controlling Wexford is to get somebody on the Park to wind Mattie Forde up and watch him go off, do we have anybody with the required cuteness/slyness for this, not sure.

I'm not going to go into our weak areas, everybody else has those well highlighted-i.e. entire backline and midfield............looking on the bright side, Waterford have been very disappointing after a promising start and are there for the taking on Sunday week (I know, where did we hear that before). Another thing, Louth and W'meath haven't done too badly up in Div. 1 this year, so who knows, and here's hoping.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on March 28, 2007, 08:14:31 AM
No one has mentioned Gallagher i think that he is a dead cert to start in the champioship.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: shotstopper1 on March 28, 2007, 10:23:04 AM
If Cavan are beat on Sunday,their destiny will be still in their own hands.They'd need to beat Waterford fairly comfortable as scoring difference may also come into play.

At the moment

Meath      9 pts
Cavan     9 pts
Wexford 8 pts

This weekend
Meath bt Waterford
Wexford bt Cavan

Meath     11 pts
Wexford 10pts
Cavan      9 pts

Last Games

Wexford bt Meath
Cavan bt  Waterford

Wexford 12pts
Meath     11 pts
Cavan    11pts

Wexford draw Meath
Cavan bt  Waterford

Meath     12 pts
Wexford 11pts
Cavan    11pts



Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on March 28, 2007, 10:33:34 AM
Shotstopper - The problem is Meath play Waterford at home this w'end with the potential to put a big score up against them. I suppose on the last day Cavan will know what amount they need to win by. Hopefully it won't come to that and we beat Wexford.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on March 28, 2007, 10:57:11 AM
i wouldn't be worried sure we will hammer waterford  ,wont we ?  ::)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on March 28, 2007, 10:59:15 AM
The problem is that if Meath and Wexford go into the last game knowing a draw will do either of them. If we have lost to Wexford, the result we get against Waterford will be irrelevant because the way we've played so far this year, there's no way we're going to stick a big score on Waterford.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: shotstopper1 on March 28, 2007, 11:58:15 AM
Quote from: cavanmaniac on March 28, 2007, 10:59:15 AM
The problem is that if Meath and Wexford go into the last game knowing a draw will do either of them. If we have lost to Wexford, the result we get against Waterford will be irrelevant because the way we've played so far this year, there's no way we're going to stick a big score on Waterford.

If Meath and Wexford draw,Cavan will have to beat Waterford by more than Wexford beat Cavan.If Wexford do beat Cavan  it'll only be about a point or two.
Our worst fear would be Wexford winning their last two games and then us losing out on scoring difference to Meath.But as Myles says hopefully Wexford will be beat on Sunday and that'll be that. 
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on March 28, 2007, 02:44:16 PM
Good to know we have the measure of Waterford...............
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on March 28, 2007, 05:05:39 PM
A win on sunday and we will be set up nicely to top the group and division 2 football next year!!!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: trim blue on March 28, 2007, 06:07:00 PM
At the start of the year I would have almost settled for just being in the top 4 and avoiding the TM cup, a part of me is relieved and thankful that we've done at least that, after all look at the mess that Sligo are in now, its not as if we're that much better than them. Having said that Sunday's outcome will have a big bearing on the rest of our year, we will be pulling out all the stops to win and if we fall short at home then all the confidence that is slowly being built up so far this year will be badly dented and we will have few if any excuses to console ourselves with (perhaps with the exception of better options at CHB and FB to come). Anyway, hopefully it will all come together on Sunday and the lads can eat Mars Bars and drink Coke on the bus all the way to the Deise the following week and return the favour..
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: The Bottom Brick on March 28, 2007, 07:10:10 PM
QuoteWhile there is more football in Mulvey

That's some insult to give any inter county footballer! ;)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: trim blue on March 28, 2007, 11:14:11 PM
Quote from: The Bottom Brick on March 28, 2007, 07:10:10 PM
QuoteWhile there is more football in Mulvey

That's some insult to give any inter county footballer! ;)

remember they also serve who can't really kick that straight
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on March 29, 2007, 12:28:39 PM
i see ballyhaise have a good new fundraiser out now.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on March 29, 2007, 01:20:14 PM
Quote from: cavan4ever on March 29, 2007, 12:28:39 PM
i see ballyhaise have a good new fundraiser out now.

Just looking at the spreadsheet myself, A very good idea.
http://www.ballyhaisegfc.com/ (http://www.ballyhaisegfc.com/)

What would be everyones picks. Mine would probably be:

5.  Ballinagh A to Drumlane
6.  Gaels A to Mullahoran
7.  Gaels H to Gowna
8.  Mullahoran H to Drumlane
9.  Gowna A to Drumlane
10. Ballinagh H to Ballyhaise
11. Kingscourt A to Drumlane
12. Castlerahan A to Drumlane
13. Gaels A to Drumalee

Don't fancy it being a good year for Drumlane!!!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on March 29, 2007, 01:33:26 PM
Quote from: Homer on March 29, 2007, 01:20:14 PM
Quote from: cavan4ever on March 29, 2007, 12:28:39 PM
i see ballyhaise have a good new fundraiser out now.

Just looking at the spreadsheet myself, A very good idea.
http://www.ballyhaisegfc.com/ (http://www.ballyhaisegfc.com/)

What would be everyones picks. Mine would probably be:

5.  Ballinagh A to Drumlane
6.  Gaels A to Mullahoran
7.  Gaels H to Gowna
8.  Mullahoran H to Drumlane
9.  Gowna A to Drumlane
10. Ballinagh H to Ballyhaise
11. Kingscourt A to Drumlane
12. Castlerahan A to Drumlane
13. Gaels A to Drumalee

Don't fancy it being a good year for Drumlane!!!

10. Ballinagh H to Ballyhaise, OI!!!!!!!    >:(  :D  ;D

havent actually entered it myself,Must do this weekend.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on March 29, 2007, 01:41:54 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on March 29, 2007, 01:33:26 PM
Quote from: Homer on March 29, 2007, 01:20:14 PM
Quote from: cavan4ever on March 29, 2007, 12:28:39 PM
i see ballyhaise have a good new fundraiser out now.

Just looking at the spreadsheet myself, A very good idea.
http://www.ballyhaisegfc.com/ (http://www.ballyhaisegfc.com/)

What would be everyones picks. Mine would probably be:

5.  Ballinagh A to Drumlane
6.  Gaels A to Mullahoran
7.  Gaels H to Gowna
8.  Mullahoran H to Drumlane
9.  Gowna A to Drumlane
10. Ballinagh H to Ballyhaise
11. Kingscourt A to Drumlane
12. Castlerahan A to Drumlane
13. Gaels A to Drumalee

Don't fancy it being a good year for Drumlane!!!

10. Ballinagh H to Ballyhaise, OI!!!!!!!    >:(  :D  ;D


Thought you wouldn't like that one alright! ;D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on March 29, 2007, 01:46:09 PM
i think u can only pick the same team once.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on March 29, 2007, 01:58:38 PM
Quote from: cavan4ever on March 29, 2007, 01:46:09 PM
i think u can only pick the same team once.

Silly me they had in bold and all. In that case:

5.  Lacken H to Denn
6.  Cuchullains H to Drumlane
7.  Belturbet A to Drumlane
8.  Mullahoran H to Drumlane
9.  Gowna A to Drumlane
10. Ballinagh H to Ballyhaise (NAP)  ;)
11. Kingscourt A to Drumlane
12. Castlerahan A to Drumlane
13. Gaels A to Drumalee

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on March 29, 2007, 02:35:34 PM
Here a random thought
Am i the only one who finds the Gaels having teams in Divisions One and Three
and also one in Division Four a bit strange, if they want a  third team they should have to put it in Division 6,Like Killygarry do.
This isnt designed to be an anti Gaels rant..The Gaels are a team i hold alot of respect for.But that team in Division Three was previously the Gaels entry to the Reserve League,They should have to start at the bottom of the pile with their Thirds.
Any thoughts?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on March 29, 2007, 02:42:24 PM
Going from the old divisions from last year it is probabaly right.  All the 1a teams from last year are in division 4.  Killagarry are div 2  and 5 and there third team played in 3a last year so it is divison 6 now. 
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on March 31, 2007, 10:56:03 AM
Looks like I won't be able to make the game on Sunday which is really pissing me off :'( :'(. Now I'll have to put up with that tynan fella on Northern Sound. Please someone post a report of some sort next week. Good luck to the lads anyhow, would be great to get promoted one game out.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on April 01, 2007, 08:02:43 PM
As a very much part time punter my money is on a draw on Sunday.




Ahem...................won't get too smug folks, this is merely a recovery of accumulated losses from the books. Hope some of ye got on, if so, join me in Fraher Field next Sunday and I will accept commission.

I only got to listen to the first half today via the broadband connection. Sounded absolutely bloody dire. In fact the only improvement from a Cavan man that I could detect was yer man Tynan on commentary, maybe he's an observer of this board. I say improvement because I at least got some hint of what was going wrong-namely-Midfield totally cleaned out, two man full forward line that was  not working at all (don't know if it was the quality of ball going in there) and a backline that did not seem set up to counter Wexford's main threat, Mattie Forde (presume the selectors had heard of him).

So, as predicted, all down to the final day against Waterford. This is all down to which Deise team turns up, and I will be able to get a bit of inside stuff on that later this week. Two years ago we put 7-14 on them in Dungarvan in a farce before a farce of a different type last year. They are in the doldrums at the moment, but would not put it past their coach (Kiely) to coax one last kick out of them. He would get great pleasure out of doing it against us, because they (rightly) found some of the stuff written about them in the match program from last year's game to be gratutious and insulting.

Having said that, if we cannot get into the top two from here, we don't deserve it. As for the championship, we really need to get some sort of midfield system sorted out, and fast. Our defence ain't the best, but the best defenders will have trouble if the middle is being over-run, Down and (hopefully) Monaghan, will pose as much of a threat around that area as, ahem, Antrim and Wexford. Two years ago when we had our bit of a run, McIlkennon managed to paper over the cracks in that area by having midfield swarmed by the likes of McKeever and the late Finbar O Reilly, among others. Might be more of the same this summer if we are to progress.

Anyway, off to spend some of the winnings!!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on April 01, 2007, 08:47:57 PM
Cavan 0-11 Wexford 0-11

a Jason Reily equalising free 6 minutes into injury time to level it up after Jayo and Pierson both missed chances to equalise,earlier in the prolonged period of extra time.
Why 6 minutes plus of extra time,
Absolute disgraceful time wasting by Wexford,Every second minute,a Wexford man was lying down with them comfortabely in the lead.
Lorcan Mulvey was sent off about 10-15 minutes into the second half,when he stuck his arm out when  Mattie Forde sidestepped him, Forde held his face like he had just been hitten by John Duddy.
Forde wasnt finished there, he "connected" with  Michael Hannon's face near the end which had the Cavan fans on the terrace side in uproar(dont know if it was a closed fist or not),yet received just a yellow
Poor game in marvelous conditions.
Pacy Wexrford Full Forward line caused us endless problems in the first half. with Fannin replaced early on and Anthony Forde moved off Paddy Colfer(wearing number 8,but at full forward)
Mattie Forde scored some amazing points,Gave Fannin a very hard time,thought it was a bit harsh to take him off all the same.
Paul Brady played well,but lacked his usual sharpness,very expected seeing as he was playing Handball over the weekend.

Ratings
1.James Reily, Kickouts good, made one good block in the second half,didnt have very much to do. 7

2.Martin Cahill,The Pacy number 13, Ciaran Lyng hgave him lots of problems, 6

3.Anthony Forde,Paddy Colfer was causing him lots of problems in there,Not a full back,Played well when moved out the field though. 7

4.Keith Fannin,Given a bit of a roasting by Forde replaced after 25 minutes by Hannon. 6

5.Michael Brennan,Attacked well,but was up against a serious speed merchant in number 22 Adrian Flynn,and struggled when Flynn ran at him, Replaced near the end, Overall Good performance. 7

6.Eamon Reily, Got some breaks and carried the ball well i thought,wasnt in the game enough to impact it greatly though. 7

7.Paul Brady,Very good in all aspects,attacked well,won breaking ball and distribution was top class. 8

8.Dermot McCabe,had very little help at centrefield,done very well though,Kicked a marvelous score near the end to bring it to within 1. Only Cavan Midfielder to do any clean catching around the centre,For all the criticism he takes, we would be lost without him. 8

9.Lorcan Mulvey,Showed power,but impacted the game very little,switched to full forward at the start of the second half,then was brought back out,Got send off for a tackle on Forde.Probably not his best day in Intercounty football. 6

10.Ray Cullivan, Had an offday aswell by his standards, Kicked a lovely point from play and scored a free,but also missed two frees,id expect him to score.Caught one crucial ball near the end to set up a Cavan attack though. 6

11.Mark McKeever,was outstanding,workrate unbelieveable, his Ball Carrying set up most of cavans best work, and kicked a lovely and crucial score near the end,also made a tremendous block in his own half in the first half and tackle well in the 2nd. 8

12.Ciaran Galligan,another who had an offday,Cavan fucked him around,alternating between half forward midfield, and later Full Forward,it probably didnt help. 6

13.Gerard Pierson,Not the Pierson performance we've come to expect,Missed what could have been a crucial score near the end,Will be better once he gets sharper though. 6

14.Rory Gallagher, started well,in a withdrawn role which had him as a half forward,but was sloppy in his ball handling,and made some mistakes,Kicked a good free,but more is needed from open play from Gallagher. 7

15.Jason Reily,Kicked the crucial equaliser,was probably the best of the inside forwards, and also blasted what was a goal chance over earlier on,although the ball broke off him a fair bit,losing possesion,Done ok though,workrate was very good. 7

Subs
Michael Hannon,Best Cavan player on the field for me,Stuck to Forde like Glue,and held him scoreless,Attacked well throughout,launching some very good runs through the wexford backline. 9

Sean Brady, wasnt involved much 6

Martin Reily,lost possession a  few times,but his good tackling won a crucial free near the end. 6

Michael Lyng,Brought on near the end,Not involved that much,good to see him back though

Jonathan Crowe,Brought on in injury time,Battled hard and won a crucial break to set up a Cavan Attack.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: trim blue on April 01, 2007, 10:32:09 PM
Very dissappointing display today which has completely tempered any notions I had of us doing well in the Championship/Qualifiers. Midfield is a serious problem and it looks to me like Walsh will have to come in there especially as Mulvey will now be suspended after getting what I'm sure was a straight red.Galligan isn't an option, he's big but not physical enough and he doesn't seem to have good hands. We're not picking up enough breaking ball either with only McKeever doing his share, he was great today and Hannon really stood out too, right from the first ball he got and made a good run up the pitch. Overall I thought the defence did alright, Brennan was solid and Brady stood out too. Gallagher was very poor and if Lyng gets in shape then it should be a straight swap as they are both essentially playmakers but Lyng is far more dynamic. Great just to see Lyng back but I also thought he played well enough too. I can only think that Pierson will never play as bad again, his freetaking was shocking and he had some poor second half wides from play at crucial times near the end, he has done it before in the big matches so hopefully it is a case of him getting sharper. Cullivan was hot and cold with one dreadful miss from a free in particular in the second half, but on balance he is a real gem, got a right clatter in the face near the end which the linesman couldn't have missed but nothing was done about it. On the subject of frees why can't they kick the ball off the ground especially for the close in frees? Our free-taking today was woeful and nearly cost us dearly. On the plus side we kept at it and put in what could loosely be described as a storming finish, the spirit seems to be good and there were many times in the past when we would have lost this sort of game by 3 or 4 points. Hope we do the business next week and get promoted and get a few more games in the league too.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on April 01, 2007, 10:56:55 PM
Trim Blue
with problems in the full back position and the midfield position alongside McCabe,
1 or 2 extra league games would be very advantageous.
Wouldnt be so quick to give up on Galligan,He was very good against Antrim.
the problem with Having Walsh alongside McCabe is its a smaller than average intercounty midfield. They will be giving up 2 to 3 inches against the Likes of Dan Gordon etc,Thats a big ask to contest a ball with a guy a fair bit bigger than you at that level.

Wouldnt mind Walsh and McCabe if we had Galligan and Cullivan in the half forward line, 4 Ball winners.
Wouldnt be worried about the full forward line,

We have Pierson,Gallagher,Lyng,Jelly,Jayo etc all battling for places,lots of options.i think Jelly and Pierson will be starting against Down, with  one from Gallagher/Lyng/Jayo at full forward
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: trim blue on April 01, 2007, 11:24:28 PM
Hope your right about Galligan and you will have seen more of him than I have, in fairness anyone coming back from being a year out will need time but my instinct watching him today was that he won't cut it at midfield for us, dropped one terrible ball in the first half too when he went up unopposed near their goal and should have taken his point at start of second half when he went for goal but he could be forgiven for that. For me Walsh just gets stuck in and mentally he is tough, I think he has a big game mentality too (had a good run in 05). His leap allows him compete with bigger men in the way Joe Dillon used to do years ago so I wouldn't be concerned with the likes of Gordon. In relation to breaking ball dare I say it we could do with Gaynor but it looks like we will have to wait at least a year for that possibility providing he keeps his nose clean. Lyng needs to be CHF or at least in the half forward line so he can send in passes from there or run at the defence, think Jelly broke a bone in his foot and he was still limping heavily today so not sure how he fit he'll be come the Down game.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on April 01, 2007, 11:38:10 PM
Galligan may not cut it midfield,you could be correct but,i see no problem with trying him wing forward,hes athletic and a good player.Also a good target for kickouts,As he will be a mismatch for most wing backs.
Pity to hear about Jelly.
Would disagree about Lyng in the half forward line,
I think that line is set now, with Cullivan,McKeever and  a pick from Sean Brady/Galligan/Cunningham.I think Keoghan/Grimley favour the two ball winners in the half forward line alongside McKeever approach to make up for the lack of a genuinely effective midfield partner for McCabe,and i for one agree with that.
Lyng would be effective in the full forward line,if the ball was played right to him,He would be a danger everytime he got the ball.Hes also a much better ability to win clean possesion(low ball) going into the FF line,
i lost count how many times actual decent ball played into the full forward line,was being dropped or bouncing off our players,many times losing momentum and possession,that wouldnt happen with Lyng.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: gortnaleck on April 02, 2007, 04:37:45 AM
I think the free taking is an issue that will have to be sorted out .All the fowards seem to be taking frees and missing their fair share.I assume there it is planned beforehand but I would like to know the reasoning behind this.Will Lyng now be taking one or two against Waterford ?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on April 02, 2007, 08:24:26 AM
Balyhaiseman im afraid that you are wrong about galligan.  His performance yesterday was similar to what he does in the majority of club games.  He hasn't a good pair of hands and i think cunningham will be straight back in when he gets fit again.  I heard mulvey drew the boot on forde yesterday but i didn't see it myself.  Forde is a tr**p anyway he buried his elbow into hannon's head in the second half and was supposed to have been at the same craic against sligo.  I don't think that the 2 man full forward line is working well now teams are just dropping a man back in front of them and covering the space which means the ball has to be perfect which it rarely is. 
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on April 02, 2007, 10:42:47 AM
Not a bit surprised to hear there was a bit of actin the maggot going on by Wexford, and Forde in particular. Pity such a great player can't have a bit of manners. When we played them down in Wexford park a few years ago (Division 1 and another draw), it got right hot and heavy on the sideline with Coleman, McIlkennon and Paddy Mac getting some right abuse from the Wexford mentors. Coleman momentarily lost it, forgot who he was in charge of, and referred to the Wexford crowd as, quote, "free state bastards". Brilliant. On the pitch Forde acted the gom that day too, drawing blood from his marker (McGovern?).

A pity about not clinching promotion yesterday is that the Waterford game could have been used to give a few blokes some much needed game time, Lyng and Rabbitte.

Regarding selections, you can take it that Sean Brady will play if fit, he's vice captain, I think.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on April 02, 2007, 10:54:11 AM
i wonder what would be the chances of Sean Brady staying fit he is another player who is injury prone. 
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: shotstopper1 on April 02, 2007, 11:54:26 AM
Quote from: anglocelt39 on April 02, 2007, 10:42:47 AM
A pity about not clinching promotion yesterday is that the Waterford game could have been used to give a few blokes some much needed game time, Lyng and Rabbitte.

Keoghan was interviewed on NS after the game and he said that Rabbitte had another setback at training on Tues night and it was unlikely he'd play any part in the league.



Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on April 02, 2007, 12:10:59 PM
Quote from: shotstopper1 on April 02, 2007, 11:54:26 AM
Quote from: anglocelt39 on April 02, 2007, 10:42:47 AM
A pity about not clinching promotion yesterday is that the Waterford game could have been used to give a few blokes some much needed game time, Lyng and Rabbitte.

Keoghan was interviewed on NS after the game and he said that Rabbitte had another setback at training on Tues night and it was unlikely he'd play any part in the league.


Thats not good news atall.  Good to see lyng back yesterday though he did alright the couple of times he got on the ball.   Gaynor is definately a big miss aswell and his temperment is no worse than mulvey's who let his county down last year aswell.  Hannon did a great job on forde and is a def starter now for the championship. He may get a hair cut though or people will think he is gaynor in disguise.  :D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: The Bottom Brick on April 02, 2007, 12:58:26 PM
QuoteGaynor is definately a big miss aswell and his temperment is no worse than mulvey's who let his county down last year aswel

Fair point, Mulvey would definitely want to lay off the "hard man" image.

I'm still laughing at that comment on here last week that some fella wouldn't have the same skill as Mulvey!!  :D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on April 02, 2007, 01:08:28 PM
did Mulvey get a straight red?
would that mean him missing the Down Game?
C4ever
i think we all especially me want Galligan to succeed in making the county team,we dont see too many players of his size with enough talent, However you've seen him alot more than me,so il take your word for it.

Must agree with Gortnaleck

Pierson,Jayo,Cullivan,Gallagher and McCabe all were taking frees today,They should settle with one right footed and one left footed and stop all the chopping and changing,
My Personal choice would be Lyng to take those favouring a right footed kicker, and McKeever to take those suitable for a leftfooted one.

Anglo
I think we just need to give up on Rabbitte making it back for the championship,With all the training hes missed,i doubt he would be sharp enough to play against Down, Without any high intensity(National League Semi final etc) games behind him.
what worries me now,who is going to play full back.
Anthony Forde was caught out with the aerial ability of Paddy Colfer yesterday,Im shocked it took an opposition team so long to pin point that weakness.

Brick
would agree that will most likely be the team,mine would be a bit different.

1. Miller

2.Hannon
3.Brennan
4.Fannin

5.Flanagan
6.Forde
7.Gunner

8.Mulvey(if not suspended)
9.McCabe

10.Cullivan
11.McKeever
12.Cunningham

13.Pierson
14.Jelly
15.Lyng
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Blue06 on April 02, 2007, 01:38:36 PM
Good spirit in the end to rescue a point yesterday.  We are in the same position we found ourselves this last 2 years neding a win to secure promotion.  Meath 05, waterford 06 and Wateford again, third time lucky maybe. :)

As regards our championship starting 15.  Here would be my definite starters based on the games I have seen.

GK James Reilly.  Though we do need backup here, Anderson doesn't fill me with confidence,
FB Micheal Hannon & Martin Cahill
HB Paul Brady
MF Dermot McCabe
HF Ray Cullivan & Mark McKeever

Sean Brady (as someone else on here pointed out) will definitely start also.  I expect him to be named in the FF line but playing as a 3rd midfielder.

Then imo all other positions are up for grabs.  Hopefully we will have 3 more games to give the likes of Lyng & Johnston time to get match fitness.
Does anyone know what suspension Flannagan got?





Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on April 02, 2007, 01:40:04 PM
agreed, if Rabbitte is injured again it's time out for the championship. It's not as if the lad was ever the next Darren Fay at any rate. I'll have to take your word on Mickey Brennan at full back since I don't see much ball kicked up at home. I was at the Wicklow match in Aughrim last year and Mickey was ROASTED at full back. Grand when he had the ball in his hand, the defending was a huge problem that day anyway. Was subbed at half time that day. Maybe it was a one off, but it was pretty awful.

Now I'm going to cause Brick to have a dose of the vapours but it seems that there may be one option left to explore at full back and that's the man who plays on the edge of the square for the Neagh by times, yes Gaynor. A gamble, yes, but we are in serious trouble in that position. If John O Mahony can wait on Kieran McDonald to get himself into shape perhaps Donal can take a similar view for the good of the team.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on April 02, 2007, 01:51:25 PM
did Mulvey get a straight red?
would that mean him missing the Down Game?
C4ever
i think we all especially me want Galligan to succeed in making the county team,we dont see too many players of his size with enough talent, However you've seen him alot more than me,so il take your word for it.


I could be wrong but i though that he got a straight red, i didn't see a yellow before it anyway but may have missed it.  IF it was a red and it was for kicking he would be out till end of june.  I'd love to see galligan doing well but im sorry to say he just isn't good enough.      We have being talking about the full back position here along time now and there is still nothing done about it.  Colm Hannon should have been brought into the panel weeks ago he is playing well for drumgoon.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on April 02, 2007, 02:26:06 PM
Indeed Colm Hannon would be a great addition to the county panel.
Didnt know he was even back in the country to be honest.
Would certainly fill the void at Full Back,but its probably a bit late in the year now to be bringing players in,With the club championships not starting until July,I doubt he would have the fitness at the moment.


Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on April 02, 2007, 02:36:20 PM
Yeah it is prob a bit late but id like to know what the management were at all year.  Is it possible that they think forde is best option at full back or did they have all there eggs in the one basket hoping that rabbitte would be fit.  It's a bit of a joke that we are heading into another championship without 1) decent full back 2) Gaynor and 3) a midfilder to play along side mccabe.  Cunningham could end up there when he is fit he might be the best of the rest. 

Id like to know what anyones views are on martin cahill at corner back.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on April 02, 2007, 02:42:01 PM
Martin Cahill is a good player,
Lacks the ideal  speed to really be able to stay with Lightening quick corner forwards like Ciaran Lyng yesterday and Young Kelly of Sligo before though.
If we were dealing with the Down Forwards,only player id be afraid of him against would be Daniel Hughes.,Definetely worth his place on the team in my opinion.



Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on April 02, 2007, 02:45:50 PM
yep i agree.  whats gonna happen Fannin though id say Hannon will get the other corner.  Would love to see him get a chance at wing back or wing forward.  He is one of not many players who can kick a long range point and is also a good free taker.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: The Bottom Brick on April 02, 2007, 02:50:38 PM
Quote1. Miller

2.Hannon
3.Brennan
4.Fannin

5.Flanagan
6.Forde
7.Gunner

8.Mulvey(if not suspended)
9.McCabe

10.Cullivan
11.McKeever
12.Cunningham

13.Pierson
14.Jelly
15.Lyng

No Jason? No Cahill?

I think they are both definite starters for me...

Cahill has been excellent thus far. M Hannon is our best corner back (could he do a job full back?) and while Fannin is a superb ballplayer, he's not a corner back.

He would be much better suited to wing back, possibly at the expense of Ronan Flanagan.

Chesty is doing OK at 6 but he doesn't exactly inspire confidence.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on April 02, 2007, 02:53:20 PM
to be honest with Rabbittes probable unavailability i wouldnt be suprised to see Michael Hannon at full back against Down for the second year in a row with Fannin and Cahill in the corners.
IF Coulter is at centrefield,id have no problem with this..But Hannon cant compete with Coulters aerial abilities as we seen last year, few Players can, Hannon is outstanding though.
Fannin would complete one hell of a half back line with Forde and Gunner in my opinion.
Obviously with Chesty,Flanagan and Brennan possibely losing out.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on April 02, 2007, 02:57:27 PM
Quote from: The Bottom Brick on April 02, 2007, 02:50:38 PM
Quote1. Miller

2.Hannon
3.Brennan
4.Fannin

5.Flanagan
6.Forde
7.Gunner

8.Mulvey(if not suspended)
9.McCabe

10.Cullivan
11.McKeever
12.Cunningham

13.Pierson
14.Jelly
15.Lyng

No Jason? No Cahill?

I think they are both definite starters for me...

Cahill has been excellent thus far. M Hannon is our best corner back (could he do a job full back?) and while Fannin is a superb ballplayer, he's not a corner back.

He would be much better suited to wing back, possibly at the expense of Ronan Flanagan.

Chesty is doing OK at 6 but he doesn't exactly inspire confidence.

I think highly of Cahill,But i think in Rabbittes absence Brennan is one of the few backs,(alongside Gunner,but we cant afford to sacrifice him for a man marking job),that could compete with Coulter at Full Forward.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on April 02, 2007, 03:06:25 PM
Anyone know how coulter is playing anyway there isn't the same chat about him as there was last year.  Down are struggling at the moment and confidance must be low in there camp but i supose the teams that are beating them are alot better than the ones were struggling to beat and draw with. 

i dunno about brennan at full back i think they will leave forde there.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on April 02, 2007, 03:11:06 PM
I seen on the Down Thread,they were debating whether Coulter was training at all,Thats obviously a good sign from Our point of view,Hes obviously not at his best.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on April 02, 2007, 04:20:50 PM
yeah he isn't scoring the amount of goals he did last yr anyway. I think we could beat down but im afraid of monaghan in both league and championship.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on April 02, 2007, 05:04:04 PM
Home draw – but Cavan still have promotion destiny in their own hands
02 April 2007


Cavan and Wexford turned in a real competitive encounter on Sunday, 1st of April at Kingspan/Breffni Park, Cavan with the sides finishing on level terms 0-11 apiece. The stakes were high in this game for both sides, and this showed over the duration of the game as the tension at times seemed to get to both teams.

The opening half was closely contested with the sides afraid to make mistakes and at the break it was the visitors who were ahead by 0-6 to 0-4 after Wexford led at one stage by five points 0-6 to 0-1.

Wexford were down to 14 players just before the interval break when wing-half back George Sunderland received a second yellow card.

The home side started the second-half with a numerical advantage, and were expected to come more into the game. However, it wasn't to be as Paul Bealin's side worked hard all over the field, and more than held their own with the home side. With the game heading towards the final quarter it was Wexford side who looked the likely winners now leading by four points 0-8 to 0-4 and playing with some confidence.

And things seemed to be getting better for the visitors when the Cavan midfielder Lorcan Mulvey received a straight red card in the 44th minute. However, in adversity the Breffni side lifted their game and points from the Gowna duo of Pierson and McCabe reduced the leeway. Wexford hit back with two further points to go ahead again by four points with 15 minutes of normal time in the game remaining. Ciaran Lyng point in the 58th minute was to prove Wexford's final score as the Cavan side upped their game and urged on by the big local support they finished with a brace of points from Gerald Pierson, Mark McKeever and veteran Jason Reilly to leave a point between the sides with time almost up.

In a frantic last few minutes there was tension and excitement galore. First Wexford lost another of their key defenders centre-half back David Murphy who received a second yellow cards.

In the additional five minutes extra-time the Belturbet Rory O'Moore's marksman Jason Reilly converted a late free to give his side a share of the spoils, and leave Cavan's promotion hopes in their own hands to their final game away to Waterford on Sunday next. A win would see them gain automatic promotion and a semi-final place as well. There is a lot now handing on this Waterford game on Sunday next down in the 'sunny south-east'.

Referee Gregory Walsh from Antrim had his hands full in this game which threatened at times to get out of hand. Over the duration of the game he issued three red cards and ten yellow, and awarded a total of 27 frees, 18 to Cavan and nine to Wexford over the course of almost 80 minutes play. With so much at stake for both sides there was no 'half measures' and the players went in for the ball as if their lives depended on it.

On form this season, this is a game that Cavan can and must win as Waterford have struggled badly in the league to date, and they suffered a heavy defeat to Meath last Saturday evening in the competition in Pairc Tailteann, Navan. However, in saying that it was a similar scenario last season when the Waterford side came to Kingspan/Breffni Park in the final league game and ended up party poopers on that occasion.

Cavan – Jimmy Reilly; M. Cahill, A. Forde, K. Fannin; M. Brennan, Eamon Reilly, Paul Brady; Dermot McCabe 0-2, Lorcan Mulvey; Ray Cullivan 0-2, Mark McKeever 0-1, C. Galligan; Gerald Pierson 0-2, Rory Gallagher 0-1, Jason Reilly 0-3.
Subs – Michael Hannon for K. Fannin; S. Brady for C. Galligan; M. Lyng for Rory Gallagher; Martin Reilly for M. Brennan; Jonathan Crowe for M. Cahill.

Wexford – John Cooper; C. Morris, P. Wallace, B. Malone; George Sunderland, D. Murphy, A. Morrissey; P. Colfer, T. Howlin; A. Flynn 0-2, R. Barry 0-1, E. Bradley; C. Lyng 0-3, P. J. Banville, Mattie Forde 0-4.
Subs – N. Murphy 0-1 for P. J. Banville; P. O'Dwyer for E. Bradley; D. Fogarty for P. Colfer; G. Gorman for A. Flynn; A. Doyle for A. Morrissey.

Referee – Gregory Walsh from Antrim.


Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on April 02, 2007, 05:09:48 PM
Hate to bring up the same argument again but it is surely time for keoghan to swallow his pride and bring Gaynor into the panel. I wasn't at the game but was talking to a few of my buddies and they tell me that it was very poor from us. They also claim that the ref had lost control and no one knew what he was at coming towards the end - maybe it was all the diving that Wexford were at that made it difficult for him. It seems that Gallagher doesn't have the balls to play for Cavan (I'm basing this on the games I was at too). I was also told that jason hardly touched the ball in open play - he doesn't seem to have the speed anymore - altough he is the only one with a real goal threat. Jason would make a good sub. We also learned that when a team targets our FB with high ball then we will be in trouble (Can't believe that no team really tried this on us to date) I'd be a but more radical than most on the team line up....

Miller
Hannon
Rabbitte
Fannin (one poor show doesn't takle him of my team)
Forde
gaynor
P Brady
McCabe
Mulvey
Cullivan
McKeever
Lyng
Pierson
Walshe
Johnstone

Bench: Jason, Cahill, Larry, S Brady, Gallagher, Cunningham (decent bench)

I think we need size at FB and FF. if Rabbitte isn't going to make it then the management need to act fast and get someone in to try out at least. The Forde experiment has failed. Maybe Colm Hannon. They need to do it now!!

I also think it is critical that we get some size in the FF line. It is too easy for teams to drop a sweeper back into  the pocket and stop the nice low ball going in. We need someone in there that can break the high balls. I think Walshe might do that but they'll have to start trying him out very soon.

I suppose we could look at this from the optimistic stance and say that we are learning our strengths and weaknesses - now all we need to do is act on that information
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on April 02, 2007, 05:20:08 PM
I heard 2 weeks ago that the selectors were thinking of bringing in Colm Hannon.  Don't think gaynor will be back and DK should be ashamed of himself for not letting him back.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: The Bottom Brick on April 02, 2007, 05:27:09 PM
Yeah we could have done with Gaynor, but then could you take the risk when he could easily go and do what he did at a similar stage two years ago when he got sent off at a vital time in that must win final league match against Meath.

On another note,

QuoteI was also told that jason hardly touched the ball in open play

Bit harsh, he skinned his man and fired a rocket over the bar to kickstart the revival just before half time, then he fisted a point at a crucial stage in the second half.

I've been a severe critic of Jayo in the past, but I think he's worth his place this year
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: trim blue on April 02, 2007, 06:29:15 PM
Quote from: The Bottom Brick on April 02, 2007, 12:58:26 PM
QuoteGaynor is definately a big miss aswell and his temperment is no worse than mulvey's who let his county down last year aswel

Fair point, Mulvey would definitely want to lay off the "hard man" image.

I'm still laughing at that comment on here last week that some fella wouldn't have the same skill as Mulvey!!  :D

BB I'm glad I tickled your funny bone, I said that Mulvey would have more football in him than Walsh and as pathetic as it sounds you'd have to agree, while Mulvey is no Canavan you couldn't see Walsh scoring the sort of points he got against Derry in the McKenna Cup for example. Having said that I'd have Walsh in there but with Mulvey likely to be suspended its academic anyway. The more we go on the more McKenna's absence is being felt in midfield, does anyone know whether Paddy Brady will ever make himself available for Cavan again? BTW Jayo kept at it yesterday and I think he's worth his place, came more into it in the 2nd half and his fisted point was down to his determination and persistance.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on April 02, 2007, 07:04:52 PM
Paddy Brady was playing for the Gowna Reserves in Division 4 against our Reserves yesterday morning.But He Must be trying to recover his fitness levels,
Because what im told from Club mates some who were there and some who were playing,He wasnt terribely impressive.
Next year is the earliest for a Paddy Brady comeback.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: The Bottom Brick on April 02, 2007, 08:06:13 PM
I agree about Walsh/Mulvey, the sad thing is I remember seeing Walsh as an Under 16 bombing over five or six points from play regularly
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on April 02, 2007, 08:12:21 PM
Walsh can score,he has decent enough feet,hes just more interested in the physical exchanges nowadays than playing his own game,and is more likely to hand pass to another player when in scoring position rather than shoot.
Coleman/McElkennon got him into the mindset of being a destroyer at midfield.
Thats ruined his allround game in my opinion.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: trim blue on April 02, 2007, 08:42:08 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on April 02, 2007, 08:12:21 PM
Walsh can score,he has decent enough feet,hes just more interested in the physical exchanges nowadays than playing his own game,and is more likely to hand pass to another player when in scoring position rather than shoot.
Coleman/McElkennon got him into the mindset of being a destroyer at midfield.
Thats ruined his allround game in my opinion.
Fair enough point, its been a bit of a problem over the last 10 years that midfielders defer to McCabe at the expense of developing their own game, a combination of a spoiler and ball player is a good idea but we have never struck the balance right
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on April 02, 2007, 10:41:27 PM
Good submissions there by all observers!

I was initially just happy to finally get along to a game - perfect weather, decent crowd, sprinkling of big names on show, but what a disappointment the game was.

First off, I always realised Stampey Forde had nastiness in him but I didn't know Wexford in general played with such a sickening, snidey cynical edge in their play. I hope the f**kers are sick to have conceded the equaliser that effectively ends their promotion hopes, so deep in injury time, as it's the perfect poke in the eye for them after all the time wasting that went on. From the goalkeeper taking a week to kick out to every outfield player lying down for a week after a tackle, topped off by Forde going  over like a dying swan when no contact had been made and then taking Hannon out of it late on. Good riddance and enjoy Division 3 next year, I hope Armagh get ye and give ye some lessons. Really, really angry at the Wexford approach on Sunday, thank God the ref copped the antics and added the proper time on.

The Cavan performance highlighted some glaring weaknesses. Our only hope at midfield is spoiling the opposition and having attack teams pouncing on the breaks. McCabe and Co. weren't in the aerial battle on Sunday but most depressingly, neither were the half backs. It was notable that the late comeback came when Forde got more active around the sector, and also after the flashpoint with Mulvey which pissed the crowd off and riled our players. The element of panic also gave an urgency to our play that hadn't been there before. Keogan's minor sides and recently, his U21s v Monaghan, have a dreadfully frustrating tendency to dwell on the ball out the field. We were doing this yesterday too, with the first 15 minutes the prime example - having dominated possesson 70/30, we were 0-2 to 0-1 down! It was this that made our two man full-forward line look bad IMO, the ball took an eternity to come in and Wexford had ample time to get the supply lines choked. McCabe delaying over frees and Rory Gallagher and Co. tossing the ball around were the main culprits here. When the ball goes in quickly, Jayo and Pierson give you a chance of winning the ball, but the ball in has to be good.

Chesty and Brennan shouldn't be in the half back line with Gunner. Forde has to be moved back out and a solution found for full-back, somehow. As we all knew it would, Gaynor's isolation is now looking the foolhardy move it is. This game was made for him yesterday, only the late subs and our desperation stakes approach saved our bacon around the middle, but with the needle in the air I'd share reservations about his temperament holding up. Howlin cleaned McCabe out of it and their half back line made a show of us for long stretches in the vital aspects of fastening on to breaks and launching lightning attacks at pace, Cavan were much, much too laborious when they picked up the ball.

Free-taking from the hands is a 50-50 gamble at best for all bar Peter Canavan, I've always said it. Why lesser players persist with it, I'll never know. Putting it on the floor always gives you a better chance and we'd have had half the problems we did on Sunday if we had a reliable free taker from right and left or if the existing ones put it on the floor.

All things considered the season is going along expected lines. We should get promoted and with Johnston, Lyng, Sean Brady and Walsh to come back, if we can do some surgery in the problem areas and work on delivering better and quicker ball inside, we'll at least give a game to Down and maybe win a few qualifiers. So much depends on our ability to break the ball in the middle and pick up the crumbs but these were my ambitions at the turn of the year and I see no reason to scale them upwards or downwards just yet.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on April 04, 2007, 09:08:27 AM
Any of u heading down to Waterford for the game??
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: trim blue on April 04, 2007, 09:55:54 AM
Most of us will be at the mercy of Tynan....
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on April 04, 2007, 10:14:51 AM
Was thinking of going but couldn't get sign off from the missus!! My old buddy Tynan will keep me informed hopefully. Wouldn't it be some laugh if Cavan won and Weford beat Meath by 7 points, leaving Meath in Div 3 next year. Stranger things have happened (like Cavan losing to Waterford last yr)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on April 04, 2007, 10:21:13 AM
Yeah tynan will have to do me aswell i think or else look for a waterford station on the internet but they will prob cover the hurling.  I hope wexford get hammered because of the crap that they were at last weekend.  Also Grimley spent alot of time running onto the pitch last week, under new rules i believe that this isn't allowed anymore and only the runners are allowed on.  Will he get a touch line ban now?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on April 04, 2007, 10:59:09 AM
It'd be a bit of a trek down alright but it'd be almost worth it in one sense. This game with Waterford really should bookend and bring closure to one of the most embarrassing chapters in Cavan football. It's something the players need to get out of their system and move on after reasserting their pride in the jersey. I'm confident we'll go at them bald-headed and after Meath stung them for 4-12 (Meath are scoring a serious amount of goals actually, and Waterford hadn't been conceding big tallies up to then) we can do likewise and score a fair bit.

In one way it'd be great to see a nasty enough Wexford beat out the gate with their tail between their legs, but come on lads...we could never shout for Meath! And besides there's the small matter of top spot in the group to be decided. I didn't realise a 7/8 point victory would do it for Wexford, was thinking they'd need to win by 14 but sure I wasn't at school the day we did the ould scoring differences in maths class...
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on April 04, 2007, 09:05:22 PM
Dungarvan is well worth a weekend visit, the weathers up, the scenery is great, plenty of watering holes, night spots and golf. WLR is the local radio station but I reckon the hurling will take precedence. East Waterford sons of Breffni will be travelling, confidence in the local team would not be high. My one worry is, looking at their team pic from the local rag for the Meath match, they at least have fellas that sport the physical appearance of county players-so size will yet again be a challenge, but when was it ever any other way.


Anyway, on a related topic, maybe I'm the last person to see what follows, if so apologies. Certainly scored a few hits on me, and no doubt will do the same to some of the rest of you.



Choose pain, heartache, depression and ignorance....
choose to place your faith in false gods adorned with tight shorts, pashty skin and blue jerseys....
chose whether or not to wear your county colours for fear of ridicule should you be at the wrong end of another hammering...
choose false hope at the start of each McKenna Cup campaign

Choose Monaghan or Meath as the enemy, Armagh as an annoyance, Donegal
as soccer heads, Tyrone as the tormentors....
choose to wish Peter Canavan was born our side of the border....
choose Breffni as mecca, Omagh as a hay shed, Clones as a hell-hole....
choose to park in the half acre, stand under the score board,
watch the girls go by with fake tan dripping from the night before

Choose whether to travel up to Croker the day before or the morning of the big match...
choose whether or not to take home that meath girl you met in the imperial,
choose a big mighty fry before the match in your sisters place....
choose too many pints before the match.....
choose the Big Tree or Quinns after the match....
choose to go on the piss even though we lost again

Choose to hope that Keogan finally gets it right,
choose to forget McElkennon and his robbin of the county board
choose to dream about what it would have been like
if we had won in 1997, choose to forget about 2006 and waterford,


Choose to be a Garda, Civil Servant, plasterer, carpenter,
plumber, electrician, nurse....
choose a flat in Drumcondra, Phibsboro, Rathmines....
choose to buy a house in Ballyhaise, Virginia or Mullahoran
choose the Farnham, Imperial, Springs, Manor or Horseshoes for nights out.....

Choose to leave your place of birth at the tender age of 17....
choose to go to college in Galway, Sligo, DIT, UCD or get the start with
the big brother in Dublin....
chose only to return home every weekend to mammy, every club match, Ulster Championship fixtures....
choose whether or not to apply for a job in the one local factory
and accept half your current wage in the hope that life will be
better than the rat race in the big smoke

Choose Bud, Guiness, Miller and Carlsberg to drink....
Choose Pauwells, Kingspan, Boxmore to work.....
choose the Radisson, Cabra Castle,
Cavan Crystal, Slieve Russell, Kilmore Hotel to get married....
Choose Bundoran and the west for holidays....
choose the Crystal, The Anglo Celt
the Cavan Echo, Northern Sound Radio

Choose long summer days in the bog, driving a tractor at 12, going to
the local mart as a big day out....
choose your first car a souped up Jap import, on your mothers insurance, don't tax it until you are caught....
choose the site your father leaves you and to build
an unimaginatively designed mansion on it

Choose the two teacher school for primary education, the big
school in town for secondary....
choose to go down town for lunch, play pool in the
pub, hope the convent girls notice you....
Choose getting a pint in the local at 15,
choose seeing your father in the local disco,
choose thinking you scored because you kissed a girl....
choose to stand outside the church at Sunday mass,
choose to always be a mammys boy

Choose Cavan!
 



Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on April 08, 2007, 08:59:33 PM
Line up-Reilly, Hannon, Forde, Fannin, Brennan, Reilly, Crowe, McCabe, Gunner, Sean Brady, Lyng, McKeever, Gallagher, Cullivan, Jason. So the slight surprises, no Cahill or Pierson. Subs used for any length were Larry and Cunningham (Latter did not have a great time). Pierson, Dermot Sheridan and Galligan came on towards the end.

Like the Antrim and Tipp games, romped ahead, did not finish them off, took a Cullivan goal in the end to seal it. Amazing, we went eighht points up after sixty minutes to a very moderate team with nothing to play for and ended up having to rely on a late goal by the outstanding Ray Cullivan to breathe easy.

Top of Div 2 is huge progress from last years shambles. First time I've seen us play this year and most of my comments echo previous postings here.

Hannon, our best man marking defender-scored our first goal as well. Forde is tormented in at full back, moved out late on and made a huge difference. Fannin was taken out the pitch early on and was probably our most effective player over the 70 minutes.

Our half back line was  non existent by times. Forget about Eamon Reilly, Brennan and, possibly Crowe, We will need to see Gunner, in my view McKeever and (Possibly) Flanagan, there, come the Down Game.

Midfield-wiped out by a moderate Waterford team-McCabe not at the races and not Gunners position.

Half forward line-all ok, great to see Lyng back, full forward line-Cullivan was class.

So in summary, a bit to be happy about but we need sorting out all the way from midfield back.

Most positive thing was Lyng playing nearly 70 minutes, he was subbed towards the end and HUGE respect for John Kiely, the Waterford manager, who came over and made a point of shaking his hand. Some appreciation of what he has been through. Not sure we can expect him to save our bacon this year though, perhaps next year will see the best of the lad again. Job done for the moment.


Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: trim blue on April 09, 2007, 12:27:26 AM
We've been second best in midfield in practically every game in the league and its very worrying at this stage. We've never been that dominant at midfield but the problem is compounded this year by the half back line, Forde would be much better than Reilly at CHB but the chances are that as poor as he is at FB he will be staying there as Rabbitt looks increasingly likely to be gone unless we get a run in the championship or qualifiers. Although much more effective in the half forward line McKeever may need to be put back in the HB's with Lyng going in at CHF. Great to see Lyng getting nearly 70 mins and at least one more match, a nice touch there by the Waterford manager too. Wexford must be sick, no sympathy for them after last weeks shenanigans...
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on April 09, 2007, 11:28:59 AM
Was listening to Northern Sound, sounded like a typical Cavan performnce in that we were unable to kill of a game. I had hopes for chesty but I don't think he is good enough to play CB. I couple of gamesnow we have seen teams pissing through us from midfield breaks. I'll say it again, Keoghan needs to get his head out of his hole and get Gaynor back in. Cullivan has been the one through positive from the campaign, he is a class act and needs to be looked after. Anglo Celt - would he make a good FF? I suppose it may seem a bit harsh to complain since most of us did set a goal at the start of the year of promotion, which we have achieved with an unbeaten run. I am just concerned that we have not dominated any team. I fancy Offaly to get the 2nd place in the other group. (didn't we lose to them a good few years back in the Div 2 semis in mullingar before??). Finally we get to the new croke park!!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on April 09, 2007, 11:41:23 AM
Dermot McCabe has been around for a long time and has been ridden by injuries. Now maybe yesterday was a one off but a lot of our defensive problems stemmed from the fact that he was totally unable to get back and cover off Waterford breaks. He was trying his damndest but the legs simply would not respond. It's hard enough to defend in a half back line at the best of times, but when you have a midfielder charging through on you un-opposed it gets a lot harder. Can't be too harsh on McCabe since there aren't a half dozen candidates for midfield. Expect we will see midfield as a version of downtown Calcutta come championship time.

Myles, have to confess was my first time to see Cullivan. He looked class but I was against the Deise, having said that he was up against a reasonable player in Eamon Walsh (played Sigerson with Maynooth so not a total waste), won plenty of ball, distributed well, took a few good scores. Pity we are not in a position to shelter him for a year or two.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: trim blue on April 09, 2007, 12:08:36 PM
Myles, not sure if we are definitely playing in Croke Park, if Roscommon win or draw next weekend then I think we will, but chances are Offaly will beat them at home and there could be a play-off because of the awarding of points to Longford following the Offaly game and that would rule out the semis being played that weekend and Croke Park is being used the following weekend, it would be just typical for us not to get there. Was at that game against offaly in Mullingar, we were 7 or 8 points up at half-time and only a typical McManus goal kept them in it but we were destroyed by Claffey in the second half and Offaly ran out easy winners. Would prefer to be playing Roscommon, we scord 5-12 against them the last time we played them in a semi all without McCabe!Tyrone put manners on us in the final though and that was the end of another bright new dawn and Kerrigan. Not sure if its just Keoghan who is against Gaynor coming back in, unless injuries force their hand no invite will be extended this year. Hard to know how to read things just now, the spirit , belief, committment and work ethic bears no relation to last year but the nagging doubt remains that we could be taken to the cleaners by more clinical teams, management still don't know what their best team is and the playing style is not that obvious. My heart though hopes that we can start putting it all together and that qualifying for Div 2 as table toppers and getting into the play-offs will allow the team to express themselves a bit more.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on April 09, 2007, 12:53:26 PM
Anglocelt

I aswell as the other lads listened to the game on Northern Sound,Suprised about what you said about Eamon Reily and Brennan,the commentators made it sound like they had good games.
They talked about how Waterford switched a 6'4 target man in on Forde,and Forde was lost,
How did Jonathan Crowe play?
id say this is probably the 5th game out of 7 we have lost the midfield battle comfortabely,just not good enough.
It really heartening to see Lyng playing so well,If ever one guy deserves to suceed on the football pitch its him.
Would Disagree with TrimBlue about moving McKeever back to the Half back line,McKeever has been outstanding in every game this year in the forwards.
How did Gallagher get on? do much from general play?
Cullivan is genuine class,I think he would be better at wing forward though were he can impact the game more and give Miller an outlet from kickouts.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: trim blue on April 09, 2007, 07:40:04 PM
Agree that McKeever has been outstanding at CHF and I would only reluctantly move him back to half back line but I think there is a greater need for him there. In my opinion he played his best football for Cavan from half back in 2004 and got some great scores roaming forward from there. Flanagan is a fine footballer but he is hardly rugged enough for the half back's and I can't see him hoovering up breaking ball the way McKeever would. If Lyng continues to sharpen up then he could slot in at CHF instead of McKeever.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on April 09, 2007, 08:02:42 PM
Paul Brady, Anthony gaynor and Anthony Forde is a damn good half back line. To make it happen of course we need Gaynor back and then Rabbitte fit to free up Forde. That way mcKeever can stay in the forwards. Paul Brady started in midfield against waterford and popped up with 2 points, although I didn't hear Tynan say anything about him winning any primary ball in there. Anglo Celt - what did you make of him in the middle.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on April 10, 2007, 11:32:21 AM
Mission accomplished lads. Promotion from Division 2B and avoidance of the Tommy Morphine nightmare was absolute priority number one at turn of the year and bottom line is we have to be content with that. We have taken a monkey off our backs and purged the memory of last year, we can now gain more experience against better sides next year, and when all's said and done we are one of only three unbeaten sides in the whole football league along with Donegal and the Mushroom pickers which has to say something I suppose.

That said, the concerns about fullback slot and the half back line, which have been voiced here all year, will come back to haunt us later in the summer without a doubt. Maybe even in a fortnight. If teams like Waterford, Antrim etc. are giving us trouble at midfield and for breaking ball then in short we are fucked when we play better sides. Any success we might attain is dependent on turning midfield into a war like we did on that run to round 4 of the qualifiers, winning enough breaks to supply the strongest area of the team which is the forwards. With every game, the refusal to bring Gaynor back looks like absolute suicide and when the real spotlight is on the team in the summer and the fans come out in force to examine, Keogan will face the tough questions that achieving promotion has deferred up to now.

We have another day out anyway let's see how it goes although I'll approach with some trepidation. The better quality teams waiting in the wings have to be pinpointing our weaknesses by now and I feel we could be about to get a spanking some time soon... 
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on April 10, 2007, 11:49:10 AM
Hopefully there won't be any play offs in Divison 2A because if there is we will miss out on croke park :(:(
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: The Bottom Brick on April 10, 2007, 02:57:26 PM
Lads, dry up on the Gaynor thing. He's not in and he won't be - there is absolutely ZERO chance of him being brought into the panel this year, so I don't understand all of this talk about him.

Why not talk about Trevor Crowe - here's another lad we could do with on the team, and, albeit for different reasons, we all know he won't be back this year.

Talking about it is futile.

Anyway, here's some news from a good source - we may get used to Forde at full back because Rabbitt won't be back for a long time.







Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on April 10, 2007, 03:04:23 PM
We all talk about Gaynor so much because his presence is hugely missed. Unlike Crowe, his exclusion is entirely deliberate by management and can easily be reversed, whereas Crowe is out by his own volition only and wouldn't come back for all the tea in China, so there's less point talking about him.

Gaynor is mad to play and Keogan will feel the heat from this stubborn decision - and notably, an entirely unexplained one, I might add - to freeze him out. He's making a rod for his own back that promotion has postponed only.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: The Bottom Brick on April 10, 2007, 03:57:22 PM
QuoteGaynor is mad to play and Keogan will feel the heat from this stubborn decision - and notably, an entirely unexplained one, I might add - to freeze him out.

Unexplained to who, supporters, other players or who? Who does he have to explain anything to when his team are one of only 2 in the entire country unbeaten after seven league matches?

I'd love to see him back, absolutely love to have Ganor at his best bursting out of defence, but I think we need to get behind the team and management this year.

PS I was up in Terry Coyle last Friday and Levi Murphy gave him a bit of a run a round in the last ten minutes, we should call him up too!  ;)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Blue06 on April 10, 2007, 04:39:03 PM
Well the main goal of the season has been achieved, albeit with some unconvincing performances.

Also this is the first time in my 30 odd years following Cavan that we have gone through the group league matches undefeated.
McHugh in his first season (promotion from Div 3) lost to Roscommon & Gabriel Kelly (promotion to Div 1 '89) lost to Cork were the closest we came to remaining unbeaten.

Lets hope Div 2A is sorted this weekend otherwise we could be playing (if we win SF) each week till the Down match.(May 14th)

On the Gaynor issue, 10 years ago another CB was axed from the panel.  If the season ends up the same way I'd be happy.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on April 10, 2007, 04:44:18 PM
Quote from: The Bottom Brick on April 10, 2007, 03:57:22 PM
QuoteGaynor is mad to play and Keogan will feel the heat from this stubborn decision - and notably, an entirely unexplained one, I might add - to freeze him out.

Unexplained to who, supporters, other players or who? Who does he have to explain anything to when his team are one of only 2 in the entire country unbeaten after seven league matches?

I think we're one of three but that's by the by anyway...You're right he doesn't have to explain anything but only because it's been a winning team so far, after a fashion. My point is that this will not last and if we get a hiding somewhere, then the questions will start in earnest about Gaynor and so on. The issue hasn't gone away.

Personally, I feel if we pay our money to games and support the team etc. we're entitled to know why one of the best players of recent years isn't on it. If the reasons were above board and strictly football, I think those same reasons would be in the public domain already and the fact that they're not leaves it looking more fishy, personalised and not taken with the overall good of the team at heart. Make no mistake, the Gaynor issue will bite Keogan on the ass sometime soon.

Good point about Tobar, can't see it happening though!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: The Bottom Brick on April 10, 2007, 05:07:35 PM
QuoteI think we're one of three but that's by the by anyway..

I know you're wrong but that's by the by too.

Great point about Aidan Connolly. A class player, and supposed to be our centre back "rock" back then. Soon as McHugh cut him out, we won an Ulster title.

Your attitude of "it will bite Keogan in the ass" is ridiculous. The attitude of every Cavan supporter should be "Fuckin hell, this is amazing, we're unbeaten from seven league matches, how long can we keep it going" not "We need Gaynor, boo hoo, how long before we're beaten"...

In case you're still wondering, only ourselves and Donegal are unbeaten after seven. Monaghan are unbeaten, but they still have one match to play.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on April 10, 2007, 05:22:10 PM
Quote from: The Bottom Brick on April 10, 2007, 05:07:35 PM
QuoteI think we're one of three but that's by the by anyway..

The attitude of every Cavan supporter should be "Fuckin hell, this is amazing, we're unbeaten from seven league matches, how long can we keep it going" not "We need Gaynor, boo hoo, how long before we're beaten"...


I think the problem is that we have only played poor teams and having being conviencing in beating them.. Yes were unbeaten but who have we beat that will cause problems for anyone in the championship Wicklow, Waterford, Sligo, Tipperary and Antrim and drew with a poor meath team and should have been beating by wexford.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on April 10, 2007, 05:34:34 PM
Ah right, you have me on a technicality there but you know what I mean ;)

Cavan4ever has answered your other point already. Fair play to the lads for their upsurge in spirit and togetherness etc. but If you want to live in the moment somewhat deluded about our true worth like a displaced Dubs fan seduced by hype or something, carry on by all means, but anyone watching the team in the last few months can see what's coming down the line unless something the trend is radically bucked and there's no reason to suspect it will. I don't know about you, but I tend to find thinking about our team's mid and long term prospects as half the craic of following them in the first place like...

None of us know how things will turn out but my qualified optimism at the turn of the year was based on keeping better elements of the team together. Not discarding them without giving them a chance. We've had ample time to see if playing without Gaynor was a wise move, we now that patently it was not and that's from playing the weaker teams in the country, whatever will happen later on I shudder to think. If or when results turn bad, Keogan will be asked the difficult questions about Gaynor and in fact, it's ridiculous that he hasn't been called to task on it before now.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: The Bottom Brick on April 10, 2007, 05:42:46 PM
You can only beat what's put in front of you.

I'm very confident we'll make the league final now, I think we're going to destroy a team soon.

That same poor Meath team beat us in the final league match two years ago, and we're blessed to come away with a draw this year in Navan against a Cavan team with 3 league debutants, one of whom was sent off for nothing after 10 minutes.

Wexford who "should have beaten us" (do you mean because we missed three handy frees or because we had a midfielder sent off for nothing?) were in the Division One league final two years ago.

Give the lads some credit, they're getting results and the performances will improve. There's no point hammering teams in March and April.

Plus, they're still trying out their best team and positions eg Gunner midfield, Cullivan full forward etc so to be getting results is very encouraging.

On the Gaynor thing (yawn), he made his bed by going to Oz when the team we're in the hard slog, would that be Keogan's reasoning? Or is it the huge question mark over his big match temperament? Or is it something personal? We don't know...

The players would know Gaynor's qualities, and flaws, better than us I would think. Do you honestly think that if they wanted him back,he'd still be in exile?

I mean the likes of McCabe, Gunner, Forde, Miller, McKeever etc have been around long enough to know if they need him - if they wanted him, he'd be there in my opinion.


Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on April 10, 2007, 06:00:17 PM
Yep a certain degree of credit is due and it is encouraging, and last year we'd have lost half the games we won this term but it's all qualifed by who we beat and the manner in which we did so. And all the while there's a massive glaring problem area that's plain to see and Keogan has really cut off his nose despite his face IMO. I don't know how much training Gaynor missed while on tour but if had been brought back in and worked hard to make up the shortfall, I wouldn't have had a problem and if it benefitted the team overall, neither should Keogan..I just can't see why you'd deliberately choose to be without a key player, that's all, and if we don't pay dearly for it later I'll be hugely (but pleasantly) surprised. It doesn't look like a football decision, put it that way.

Wexford should have beaten us because their half backs and midfield were all over our powder puff half back line until they chose to protect their lead and get cynical. Their mistake, other teams won't be as reticent to press home a clear advantage like that. Poorer teams than them gave us lots of headaches as well especially Antrim around midfield, so while there's reason to be encouraged there's equally as pressing reasons to be concerned. I'd be less so if we had Gaynor because the problems stem directly from the area he'd slot into.

And thankfully the days of the players calling the shots on team matters are long gone and good riddance, and well done Keogan for that at least.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on April 10, 2007, 06:01:38 PM
Ballyhaise man was asking me about my views on the half back line given that the blokes on Northern Sound reckoned some of them did ok. Perhaps I was being a bit harsh on some of them, however there were times when Waterford were absolutely skating through our backline, particularly down Crowe's side. Somebody posted after the Antrim game that the half back line needed to be cleared out, looked a bit like that at times on Sunday as well. On the topic of Northern Sound, did they reckon anybody did not play up to scratch? Listen in on the internet by times and comes across as a radio version of the Celt-see no evil, hear no evil, do no evil.

The all against one argument about Gaynor goes on, The Brick actually has a point, the man's discipline record etc. has the potential to be an issue, and I for one would love to see him there as an option. I would  not rule out changes at even this late stage, if you remember back to our last stint in Division 1 Mickey Lyng was sprung on the last day of the league campaign, did Gaynor make his start that day as well or did he come in even later in the season in advance of his barn stormer against Down?

Anyway, job done for the moment, all else a bonus, hoping for lots of them.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: The Bottom Brick on April 10, 2007, 06:08:57 PM
Quotedid Gaynor make his start that day as well or did he come in even later in the season in advance of his barn stormer against Down?

I think his first match was actually the Down game

Who could emerge though?

I think Lyng's return will give us a massive dimension, his workrate alone...
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on April 10, 2007, 06:25:12 PM
Im off the opinion its too late to be bringing players into the panel now,if they havent been training with the county for the last month.
it cant do much for the squad morale if they see players being brought in ahead of them who havent done the hard graft under Grimley over the last 6 months.

id say Crowe,Eamon Reily and Brennan will get one last chance to stake a claim for places in the half back line for a championsip place in the league Semi Final.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: The Bottom Brick on April 10, 2007, 08:04:54 PM
QuoteIm off the opinion its too late to be bringing players into the panel now,if they havent been training with the county for the last month.

What??!!! Are you insane Ballyhaise Man?

Don't you know that Anthony Gaynor should be on the Cavan team!!!

In fact, we'd nearly be better off playing with 13 a side and just Gaynor in the half back line rather than not having him on the panel. :D

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on April 10, 2007, 08:46:53 PM
What??!!! Are you insane Ballyhaise Man?

Don't you know that Anthony Gaynor should be on the Cavan team!!!

In fact, we'd nearly be better off playing with 13 a side and just Gaynor in the half back line rather than not having him on the panel.



Clearly a case of too much time on the hands. Can we declare a Gaynor free zone for a week or two?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: The Bottom Brick on April 10, 2007, 08:53:40 PM
QuoteCan we declare a Gaynor free zone for a week or two?

Yes!!!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: The TopKat on April 11, 2007, 12:22:28 AM
Bottom Brick-Levi should definitely get a call up after his performance on Gaynor! Keogan must have it in for him too seen as he hasnt been called into the panel! :D :D :D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on April 11, 2007, 09:47:43 AM
I wonder has Keoghan been at any club games ?, anyone seen him about?

It would be hard for some of his selectors to get to games when there at there own club games.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: lynchbhoy on April 11, 2007, 10:42:09 AM
Quote from: The Bottom Brick on April 10, 2007, 05:07:35 PM
QuoteI think we're one of three but that's by the by anyway..
Great point about Aidan Connolly. A class player, and supposed to be our centre back "rock" back then. Soon as McHugh cut him out, we won an Ulster title.
Cant remember the draw cavan had to get through to get to the ulster final, but although great to win it, hardly a brilliant victory (dubious circumstances against a team noted for snatching defeat from the jaws of victory)

the issue/problem/disaster was only shown up in Croke park where Cavan were cruelly exposed for NOT having a CHB and poor Bernard morris tried to play the kingdom on his own
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: shotstopper1 on April 11, 2007, 11:02:05 AM
Quote from: The Bottom Brick on April 10, 2007, 05:42:46 PM
On the Gaynor thing (yawn), he made his bed by going to Oz when the team we're in the hard slog, would that be Keogan's reasoning?

This doesn't hold, at least one other current player (who played most of the league games),had opted out and didn't join the panel until after the McKenna Cup. 



Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on April 11, 2007, 11:06:14 AM
Quote from: The Bottom Brick on April 10, 2007, 08:04:54 PM
QuoteIm off the opinion its too late to be bringing players into the panel now,if they havent been training with the county for the last month.

What??!!! Are you insane Ballyhaise Man?

Don't you know that Anthony Gaynor should be on the Cavan team!!!

In fact, we'd nearly be better off playing with 13 a side and just Gaynor in the half back line rather than not having him on the panel. :D



That'd be just silly Brick. We've trouble enough with 15.

On the subject of bringing players in late to the panel, it never did Pete McGrath and Down any harm when they were winning All-Irelands and he-whose-name-you-won't-hear-mentioned was himself a late call-up to the senior squad under Coleman, and an inspired one at that if you recall the replay performance against Down. You can find any number of excuses not to include a player if that's your ultimate aim, but the best and only valid reason to call one back in is the difference they could make to a genuine problem area on the team.
Anyway, people are growing tired of the argument so I'll park it there but it will be rear its ahead again all too soon.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: The Bottom Brick on April 11, 2007, 11:09:55 AM
Quotethe issue/problem/disaster was only shown up in Croke park where Cavan were cruelly exposed for NOT having a CHB and poor Bernard morris tried to play the kingdom on his own

Rubbish. Morris was Ulster Writers Footballer of the Year that season, and he lined out at centre back all summer. So he was voted the top centre back in the province - how can you then say we had no CHB?

In 97 Cavan struggled past Fermanagh, blitzed a strong Donegal team (who lost to a last minute goal in the following years Ulster final) and then beat a Derry team with the likes of Downey, Tohill, Brolly, McKeever et al still flying.

Nothing wrong with that run I wouldnt think
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: The Bottom Brick on April 11, 2007, 11:11:20 AM
QuoteThis doesn't hold, at least one other current player (who played most of the league games),had opted out and didn't join the panel until after the McKenna Cup. 

I agree - I didn't say this was a valid reason, I asked was this Keogan's reasoning?

Presume you're talking about Miller?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: lynchbhoy on April 11, 2007, 11:16:46 AM
Quote from: The Bottom Brick on April 11, 2007, 11:09:55 AM
Quotethe issue/problem/disaster was only shown up in Croke park where Cavan were cruelly exposed for NOT having a CHB and poor Bernard morris tried to play the kingdom on his own

Rubbish. Morris was Ulster Writers Footballer of the Year that season, and he lined out at centre back all summer. So he was voted the top centre back in the province - how can you then say we had no CHB?

In 97 Cavan struggled past Fermanagh, blitzed a strong Donegal team (who lost to a last minute goal in the following years Ulster final) and then beat a Derry team with the likes of Downey, Tohill, Brolly, McKeever et al still flying.

Nothing wrong with that run I wouldnt think

wouldnt be in agreement with the run up to the ulster final given the state (drink) of Donegal football at that stage
as for Derry, youd have to be watching them for as long as I have to feel the pain. Though Cavan followers have suffered for years also.

BUT the main point here is - I presume you saw the game v Kerry.
Did you not see that Cavan were  raped , pillaged and slaughtered in the CHB area.
For all the awards garnered in the ulster championship run (again I would say against weak enough opposition) the position was only found wanting in this game and cruelly exposed.
I felt EXTREMELY sorry for Morris that day.
The game was a bit emabarrassing.
I was brought up to believe that If you dont have a decent CHB, your team will be weakened straight away.
The old school of thinking is that this is the key position in Gaelic football.
I might not be correct in what I am saying above - but thats my opinion.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: trim blue on April 11, 2007, 01:18:47 PM
Very odd bit of posting there Lynchboy, when you win a provincial title you are the best in the province at that point in time and are worthy champions. Cavan were beaten that day in Croker by overdoing  the short-passing in the second half and by Kerry moving Fitzgerald to midfield where he proceeded to pump high balls into the FF line, the killer score coming when Mike Frank got on the end of one and scored that goal. The game was far from embarassing and featured one of the best goals ever scored in Croker by Cahill. Its funny but when I think of embarassing things from '97 I can't get past Mullins matchday getup, I mean that hat and those shorts! ;D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: lynchbhoy on April 11, 2007, 01:22:14 PM
Quote from: trim blue on April 11, 2007, 01:18:47 PM
I think of embarassing things from '97 I can't get past Mullins matchday getup, I mean that hat and those shorts! ;D
you should see the cut of him now!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: The Bottom Brick on April 11, 2007, 01:58:46 PM
QuoteFor all the awards garnered in the ulster championship run (again I would say against weak enough opposition) the position was only found wanting in this game and cruelly exposed.

Very harsh

Cavan beat Fermanagh, then hammered a Donegal team who the following season were pipped by a last minute goal in the Ulster final.

They then took on a Derry team boasting the likes of Tohill, Brolly, Downey, McKeever, Coleman who had earlier defeated Tyrone (who had won the previous two Ulsters) and who would go on to win the following year's Ulster title!

So in the semi and final Cavan beat the two teams who would be in the final the following year - hardly "weak enough opposition".
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on April 11, 2007, 04:32:20 PM
so the debate about bringing players into the panel at a late stage (i.e. Ga@#%r) goes on. Maniac makes the point that Down were not above bringling lads into panels at late stages, to good effect. But sure why go that far back, or indeed why go that far geographically now that I think of it.  Think in fact of the fateful preliminary round against Down last year-McKeever suddenly rehabilitated from an extended bout of socialising, Peter Reilly lining out despite his best efforts to retire a few months previously, Larry and Jason looking like two versions of the Tellytubbies at the time. Have I totally lost it or did a half fit Pierson get stretchered onto the starting line up as well. I remember looking on in serious embarassment and thinking the Sean Brady was the one forward who actually looked fit enough to be playing championship football. Anyway that was in part down to an injury crisis and cetain players having too much influence over selection matters (that's what I reckon for what it's worth). Luckily for us McKeever has been forgiven his transgressions. We are now in a much better place but still with serious problems at two key positions, nobody should indulge in a huge bout of whinging if the panel was now to be added to to cover this serious defects.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on April 11, 2007, 05:36:40 PM
Jasus ac39, you got me thinking now about late paratroopers arriving on the scene.

Anyone remember Paul Murphy the Cork lad who Val Andrews/Liam Austin?can't recall actually, drafted in right before a championship game, I think with Derry? He did this two years in a row. The first year he actually caught a decent bit of ball but second year did feck all and promptly disappeared never to be heard of again. He was working at the Slieve Russell or something in the gym. Bizarre chapter in Cavan football.

We were also linked with moves for former Kerry players as well, Jack Ferriter or some bleddy thing...

Ho hum.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: trim blue on April 11, 2007, 10:33:28 PM
Maniac I remember when Pat Fallon of Mayo played for us (early '90's?) and he was absolute shite, I think we dragged him down to our level...
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on April 11, 2007, 11:17:04 PM
Never knew that. Knew he worked up our way for a spell, was it as a bank official or something? Pat Holmes did the same and lined out for the Gaels but kept his county allegiances at home.

I presume he got a run with us as a raw enough recruit before coming to prominence later...
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: The TopKat on April 12, 2007, 12:22:48 AM
Bottom Brick, what do you have against the Celt???  ??? ???
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on April 12, 2007, 08:23:49 AM
Quote from: The TopKat on April 12, 2007, 12:22:48 AM
Bottom Brick, what do you have against the Celt???  ??? ???

The standard of writing in the celt has really dropped.  They even have a big report in this week from the cavan/wexford game which im sure was in it last week.  The amount of mistakes that does be in it is unreal.  The 2 free papers are alot better for G.A.A.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: North Longford on April 12, 2007, 08:50:02 AM
In the sports section of last weeks celt they actually repeated the same page twice!!!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on April 12, 2007, 08:52:34 AM
Quote from: North Longford on April 12, 2007, 08:50:02 AM
In the sports section of last weeks celt they actually repeated the same page twice!!!

Thats right it was pictures of some functions.  they must have monkeys working in there .
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: trim blue on April 12, 2007, 10:12:12 AM
Yeh Fallon worked in the Bank and was only a young lad at the time, still when you saw him in '96 & '97 you wouldn't think he was the same player, I suppose it shows you need to give players a chance to develop and not just give them a go for a couple of games
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: shotstopper1 on April 12, 2007, 10:58:03 AM
The Celt has being no great shakes for years , but sure we got by.Since the Scottish Dunferline Press group took it over in 2004 it has rapidly gone downhill.The amount of times pictures or articles are being duplicated in each edition is unreal, and now it seems they're even duplicating articles from previous issues.Also I feel as if the Celt has being pulling the wool over our eyes for years.Why sell a local paper for €1.85??(I think thats the price now as they keep changing it so often),and then bring out a free paper with local news, surely it could all be put in the one paper (maybe this is the reason for the duplications).

BTW fair play to Peter Quinn and his buddies for giving us the makings of a very good paper in the Cavan Echo, keep up the good work.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on April 12, 2007, 11:07:55 AM
If the response from the Celt to the Echo has been to lower standards rather than raise them, then I genuinely fear for its future. If there's no concept of the threat they're facing they'll be in trouble fairly soon. Too content to trade on their monopoly in the market for far too long, it seems they lack the initiative to turn it around now.
Although you'd have to think they'd shake themselves and do something before too long.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Hollow Man on April 12, 2007, 04:12:29 PM
First time caller, long time listener!

Interesting topic here, what would people actually want to read in the likes of the Celt?

Local match reports are high on the agenda for me, as well as opinion and most importantly, everything must be well written!!

What does everyone else think?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on April 12, 2007, 04:26:20 PM
Quote from: The Bottom Brick on April 11, 2007, 06:56:47 PM
So, Cavan only won by six points according to this week's Celt, and are now promoted to Division 2A, which actually won't exist.

Ho hum as right  ;D

I was trying to read the report from the wexford game in the celt last week. The 2nd half of the report was in the paper on two pages (each page being exactly the same as the other). The 1st half of the report I couldn't find anywhere in the paper. Then I was reading Owen mcConnon who was saying that Meath were as good a promoted as Wexford would have to beat them by more than 15 points. With the celt it will take no more than 2 minutes to find glaring mistakes and I can only assume that the editor doesn't bother proof read!!!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: trim blue on April 12, 2007, 05:15:21 PM
At this stage the Celt is getting by on the fact that it is an institution and people just buy it out of habit. The mistakes in the sports section alone are disgraceful and speak volumes for the shoddy, lazy journalism it peddles. The type of mistakes mentioned today are as a result of at least 2 people not doing their job, the sportswriter and the sports editor. I hope the Echo gives them a good kick up the arse and they start thinking creatively about what they are doing, I mean why cant they do profile pieces on the county team, proper interviews with players, management, maybe an archive piece with pictures of previous championship matches, great players from the past, they have it all at their fingertips, a piece on the Down/Cavan rivalry in the '60s would make for graet reading coming up to the game in May.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: KIDDO on April 12, 2007, 10:56:07 PM
Cavan Gaels defeated Belcoo 5.13, to 0.7 ,in round 1 0f the 2007  Paul Mcgirr  memorial trophey  competition  for 2006 ui6 county juvinile champions , at Gardrum ParkDromore , tonight April 12, with the game refereed by top whistler MartinSludden , who is also the referee for next Sats ULSTER U21final inOmagh.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on April 15, 2007, 11:41:47 AM
Results from the weekend so far

Division One
Drumalee 1-11 Lacken 0-11
Belturbet 0-10 Gowna 2-11
Cuchullains 1-09 Cavan Gaels 2-10
Denn 1-13 Crosserlough 2-14
Mullahoran 0-07 Castlerahan 2-09
Ballyhaise 0-11 Drumlane 1-09    :-[


Division Two
Knockbride 2-09 Shercock 2-09
Drumgoon 2-14 Killygarry 1-06
Ballymachugh 1-06 Ramor Utd 2-11
Redhills 2-10 Killinkere 2-07

Division Three
Killdallan 0-15 Mountnugent 1-05
Arva 1-11 Shannon Gaels 2-11
Corlough 1-05 Killeshandra 0-14

Division Four
Cuchullains 1-10 Cavan Gaels 2-03
Ballyhaise 2-08 Drumlane 1-06   :)
Mullahoran 2-07 Castlerahan 0-02
Denn 2-11 Crosserlough 0-12

Division Five
Redhills 1-05 Killinkere 2-20
Drung 2-14 Laragh 1-11
Drumgoon 0-05 Killygarry 5-09
Knockbride 0-09 Shercock 3-06

Division Six
Arva 1-10  Shannon Gaels 1-08
Corlough 0-10  Killeshandra 4-07
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Verbal Kint on April 15, 2007, 12:49:48 PM
Long time reader, first time poster!
Hopefully results go our way today and we will be in Croker next week-only county in Ireland not to have played in the new Croke Park!!!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on April 15, 2007, 08:37:16 PM
Roscommon next up for us in Croker then so...roll on Saturday, it's about time we got a game there at long last. Thank God the nightmare scenario was avoided in Division 2A today.

Hopefully we'll put in a decent enough display, another game before we meet Down would be great.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Hollow Man on April 15, 2007, 08:53:07 PM
Brilliant, although it's not confirmed yet which is worrying because they could decided not to hold it in Croker owing to the poor crowd today...

I think we'll take Ros too by the way, although they will be on a high after their escape act today.

By the way, read this on hogan stand message board, taken from the Cavan Echo I think...

Not too often you get something decent to read on hogan stand!


13/04/2007

The Bottom Line spoke last week about the attitude problem among Cavan supporters. Evidently, no-one was listening. The talk among the 150 or so diehards who made the trek to Waterford (the other 15,000 or so who will be looking for tickets on May 13 were obviously busy) was downbeat.
Here are the facts. We're unbeaten in seven while not even playing at 60 per cent of what we know we can. The management are still tinkering with players and positions. We drew with Wexford who subsequently hammered Meath - is there a formline here, or did Paul Bealin's men become brilliant in the space of seven days?
The harsh reality is that Cavan have been whipping boys for 30 odd years and the frustrating thing is this: when we do get it together, go unbeaten in seven matches and top a group with Meath and the 2005 Division One finalists Wexford in it, all a lot of Cavan supporters can do is complain and say "we're brutal, we were lucky, we'll get hammered in the summer".
How is any team expected to develop with this type of pressure on their backs? Cavan's record since the sixties has been comparable to that of Fermanagh. We had one great summer when the gods aligned and we made it to the hallowed turf of Croker, when we were so close to togging out on the third Sunday of September that we could almost smell the Deep Heat and hear the air horns. Other than that, we've been also-rans, never winning a league title, landing just two provincial Under 21 gongs and no Ulster minor since 1974.
And yet... The Bottom Line has said it before, and he'll say it again - the "long suffering" Cavan supporters have contributed to the team's lacklustre performances over the years. Their level of expectancy is so preposterous that it has suffocated the team, and undermined their belief. For example, we're in the league semi final and we haven't lost a match. The reaction? Big deal, it's division 2B. However, had Cavan maybe lost to Meath or Wexford, or not ground it out against Sligo, the response would have been outright disgust.
And then you have the vicious circle which the "demand for success" creates. Young players are thrown into the senior squad too soon in the rush for a quick fix, and when they crumple under the strain (as often happens), they get turfed out to make room for the next prodigy. So the cycle of "hope, defeat, clearout, rebuilding job, hope..." continues ad infinitum.
How can the current regime be any different? Simple – let's get behind this side, and not with daggers in our hands. We're back in Croke Park for the first time in a decade, and we're favourites to reach a national final at senior level!
The Bottom Line has no doubt that a game in Fortress Croker will lift Cavan's performance. What footballer in Ireland wouldn't be invigorated by a chance to take the field on the biggest stage of all?
After that, struggling Down come to Breffni where they'll face a hell of a battle. Momentum counts for a lot in county football, and believe it or not, this Cavan side is on the move. Now is the time, to paraphrase the wizened old colonel in Full Metal Jacket, to jump aboard for the big win. Go on, you know you want to...
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on April 16, 2007, 10:34:06 AM
Some lad over on hoganstand is saying that the game is in Lonford on Sunday.  Anyone hear anything offical?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on April 16, 2007, 01:31:34 PM
Quote from: cavan4ever on April 16, 2007, 10:34:06 AM
Some lad over on hoganstand is saying that the game is in Lonford on Sunday.  Anyone hear anything offical?

Seen that alright but I suppose this link disreputes that.

http://www.ticketmaster.ie/event/18003E858F253A90?artistid=955185&majorcatid=10004&minorcatid=229 (http://www.ticketmaster.ie/event/18003E858F253A90?artistid=955185&majorcatid=10004&minorcatid=229)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Ryano on April 16, 2007, 01:45:41 PM
Mon and Meath @ 6pm
Cavan and Ros @ 7.45pm
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: The Bottom Brick on April 16, 2007, 01:48:06 PM
That link says 1 o clock Homer?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on April 16, 2007, 01:49:18 PM
If u look to the right Brick it gives 6 and 7.45.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on April 16, 2007, 01:57:05 PM
Tickets just been ordered  :)
Looking forward to taking over Croker Saturday Night.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: The Bottom Brick on April 16, 2007, 02:02:37 PM
QuoteIf u look to the right Brick it gives 6 and 7.45.

Not so bad!

It shouldn't be hard to get tickets sorted???
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: shotstopper1 on April 16, 2007, 02:40:32 PM
7.45 Looks like an overnight
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: The Bottom Brick on April 16, 2007, 02:50:28 PM
I like those odds!!!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on April 16, 2007, 03:18:19 PM
Quote from: The Bottom Brick on April 16, 2007, 02:02:37 PM
QuoteIf u look to the right Brick it gives 6 and 7.45.

Not so bad!

It shouldn't be hard to get tickets sorted???


There won't be many problems in getting tickets.  It might be better of staying than driving home cos with meath and monaghan playing the traffic will be serious.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: bingobus on April 16, 2007, 03:28:23 PM
Quote from: Ryano on April 16, 2007, 01:45:41 PM
Mon and Meath @ 6pm
Cavan and Ros @ 7.45pm

Are you sure that this? I was told by a member of the Monaghan panel this morning thats its the otehr way about. He could be wrong though, have you a link?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on April 16, 2007, 03:29:22 PM
Heard it on the radio there about 30 mins ago.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on April 16, 2007, 03:42:31 PM
Croke Park will host both NFL semi-finals on Saturday evening with the Monaghan-Meath game starting proceedings while the floodlights will most definitely be needed by the time Cavan and Roscommon throws in at 7.45pm.

The first game throws in at 6pm and is a repeat of the 2005 NFL Division 2 decider which Monaghan won in they dying seconds thanks to an own goal from Meath's Mark Ward.

There is likely to be huge interest in Cavan as it will be the first time they have played in GAA Headquarters since 1997 when they took on Kerry in an All-Ireland semi-final.

Both games will be shown live on TG4.


Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: bingobus on April 16, 2007, 03:46:15 PM
Cheers, should have known he'd get it arse ways.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: CC1 on April 16, 2007, 07:33:06 PM
Quote from: cavan4ever on April 16, 2007, 03:18:19 PM
Quote from: The Bottom Brick on April 16, 2007, 02:02:37 PM
QuoteIf u look to the right Brick it gives 6 and 7.45.

Not so bad!

It shouldn't be hard to get tickets sorted???


There won't be many problems in getting tickets.  It might be better of staying than driving home cos with meath and monaghan playing the traffic will be serious.
That's what myself and the folks are doing. I remember 97 and the traffic that day was killer, so you could just imagine the traffic on the M1, N2 and N3. Which ever way you go, you're going to have serious traffic.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on April 16, 2007, 07:42:04 PM
Lads
it may be a while before we get to Croke Park again,so i think for even if only for the novelty factor of seeing us in Croke,Its worth the trip.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: CC1 on April 16, 2007, 08:14:31 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on April 16, 2007, 07:42:04 PM
Lads
it may be a while before we get to Croke Park again,so i think for even if only for the novelty factor of seeing us in Croke,Its worth the trip.
Absolutely, but make sure to be there early and stay late or stay over night would be the right way to go about it.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on April 16, 2007, 08:56:46 PM
Well lads. i hope to get there but not 100% sure if I can make it due to other commitments. I think we will be beaten, we are playing too poorly  for me to be too optimistic. Ros have a big lad Mannion at FF, apparently he is playing crap this year but if the ball is remotely good we know that forde won't be able to compete. You can always rely on a Maughan team to be fit too and by all accounts that is how they beat Offaly at the weekend. They have there bad performances too so maybe it will go our way. Would be great to get to a final against meath or monaghan for a bit of serious slagging.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on April 17, 2007, 03:58:07 PM
Cavan stars Sean Brady, Darren Rabbitte, Nicholas Walsh and Seanie Johnston are battling to be fit for Saturday evening's NFL Division 2 semi-final against Roscommon at Croke Park.

Rabbitte is suffering from a hamstring complaint, and is the biggest injury concern ahead of the Breffni County's first appearance at GAA headquarters since 1997. Lorcan Mulvey is ruled out through suspension, but wing back Ronan Flanagan is available again. Micheal Lyng is pushing for a starting place after a two-year injury layoff.

Cavan manager Donal Keogan is playing down the significance of Cavan's first appearance in the new-look Croke Park. Until now, they were the only county not to have played at the stadium since its redevelopment a few years ago.

"It's not something we'll be dwelling on. Obviously the majority of our players haven't played there but it's not a big deal to us," he said.




Myles
if Mannion is FF there is no conceiveable way Forde can be left at full back on him,i f**kin hope not anyway  :o
You could possibely see Nicholas Walsh in there marking him,if fit.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on April 17, 2007, 05:07:48 PM
What exactly is the problem with Johnston anyway, it's all gone dark on his injury I haven't read or seen a thing about it anywhere. He hadn't been playing near as well as last year but we could be doing with him fit for 20 mins or so for when Jason tires. Has he played for the seniors all year?

A big open prairie like Croker would be perfect for little Jelly to run riot in. Looking forward to seeing Lyng on the grand stage too, it's tailor-made for him to direct traffic on the forty and find the corners with some nice passes. [Edit - if it's a slippy surface, would anyone have concerns about risking him?]

Immensely looking forward to the game I have to say. Redevelopment, GAA fondness for Clones and a poor draw in round 4 two years ago has kept us out of Croker but hopefully Saturday will mark the start of more regular visits to the hallowed ground.

If nothing else it'll stop the Meath shite about tractors and student entry for pensioners etc. They're a bit far down the pecking order to be joshing at us dont yiz think?.

Besides, did they never hear that those in glasshouses shouldn't throw stones? Evidently not.  ;D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: trim blue on April 17, 2007, 05:17:35 PM
Maniac, heard it was a broken bone in his foot so if thats true it would surprise me if he was fit, he was limping heavily when I saw him at the Wexford game but maybe he is one of these quick healers you hear about, think all the young lads will be fearless on Saturday with Cullivan and Lyng ready to put down a marker. Don't know how we will be able to compete in midfield though, McCabe hasn't the legs anymore so getting up and down between the 45's tracking his man will be a big ask. The question is have we the potential to improve by at least 30% on our performances to-date, I think we have but we might have to wait for the Championship for that and mightn't see it on Saturday.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on April 17, 2007, 05:33:02 PM
We certainly need to TB. I've been a bit down on our championship prospects since the league ended but at a week or two's remove, I suppose going up unbeaten is not a bad achievement with a new manager and a building/experimenting team carrying a few injuries. Anyway, offer any Cavan fan league promotion and unbeaten status at start of year and we'd have taken it. Anything else from the seniors this year is a bonus, in a way we should just sit back and enjoy whatever we get.

If anything will bring a bit more out of the team it'll be a day out in Croker you'd hope. Something with the effervescence of the display against Derry in the McK Cup would do nicely I think, but we have weak links and I just hope they're not cruelly exposed when we meet a good team.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on April 17, 2007, 05:37:02 PM
I for one am very confident in relation to Saturday Night.
as i said on the other thread, id be worried about Rosscommons size and power,but with Croke being such a big pitch,I think Pierson/Jelly if fit/Jayo etc and Lyng could run riot.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on April 17, 2007, 07:24:45 PM
There is a serious need for us to get every man jack in the county into Croker on Saturday night. I'm a bit worried with talk about all of Cavan being there. There were shag all of us in Clones for our first Championship meeting against the Rials in 50 years on a magnificent day. The great Cavan support has been a bit of a myth since the late 90's when we started getting serious mullerings by Derry, and, subsequently, Tyrone. We have done enough banging on about not getting into Croker, here we are. The players have managed to stem last years disaster and deserve some support.

So folks, in short, harangue your neighbour/sister/aunt/summer soldier to get the hell up there. I think this could really work wonders for players such as Lyng/Pierson to get a run in Croker. We will start to know whether the likes of Crowe/Cunningham are ready for championship action.

There's a bigger dimension to getting a big crowd in come Saturday night. Over the past year many staunch GAA commentary types have been making the point that the stadium is practically closed to GAA players apart from the elite. Now that soccer and rugby got their go, a concession has quite rightly been made and this weekends fixture is for Croker. Let's not now stay at home, watch it on TG4 and have it thrown back to us that we wouldn't use it when it was available. Hell, while I think of it, harangue your Monaghan, Ros friends and family to get there too. Those of you out on day release who are willing to admit to acquaintances with the other crowd, well that's up to you.

Here's to a great night, for those of you travelling from exile land (i.e. south of Dublin) the train in from Maynooth to Drumcondra is the only way.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: CC1 on April 17, 2007, 11:03:40 PM
I don't know why alot of you lads are worried about Johnston or any of the forwards for that matter. They're all playing well at the moment and hopefully they'll continue to do so. The thing I'm worried about is our midfield and backline. McCabe just can't cope on his own in the midfield, Mulvey and Walsh are huge losses in there because they are both real grafters and that gives McCabe a chance to get the ball and start up attacks. Playing the Gunner in midfield again isn't an option, we certainly need someone in there pronto. Cunningham played well there for Swad last year, maybe he might be a decent punt in there.

As for the back line, we have to get Forde away from the full back position. It's not because he's playing badly or anything, but he's just too small to deal with bigger players and high balls in. Forde is a good player when he has the ball in his posession, not when he's fighting with a goliath of a man for posession. How tall is Hannon? Surely he's taller than Forde...
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on April 18, 2007, 12:30:22 PM
Ironically, the Cavan thread has now reached page number '52.

Will it all go to shite from here on do ye think? ;D

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on April 18, 2007, 01:10:56 PM
Anyone got there tickets yet?

Be careful if ur buying on Ticketmaster because there supposed to have the worst seats!!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on April 18, 2007, 01:46:16 PM
Ordered them off Ticketmaster C4ever,
have to collect them from Box Office later today or maybe tommorow.Good seats according to the seating chart.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: The Bottom Brick on April 18, 2007, 01:49:14 PM
QuoteIronically, the Cavan thread has now reached page number '52.

Will it all go to shite from here on do ye think?

LOL hope not :D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: realredhandfan on April 18, 2007, 01:49:55 PM
good luck lads and enjoy it.. Youse deserved to be there a lot sooner..
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on April 18, 2007, 01:57:07 PM
Here lads keep it at 52 pages until Saturday,It could be a lucky omen  :o

Thanks for the well wishes RRHF.  :)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on April 18, 2007, 03:50:06 PM
Doubt there is much chance of that happening BallyhaiseMan, even if we (the cavan lads) do manage to leave the page alone, theres always gonna be a few posts put in from a few Rossies or others to spoil it.

I'm almost hopping off the walls this week in anticipation, I just hope the night can live up to its expectations. A good game of football, a great atmosphere and of course a win for Cavan would be the ideal preparation for the Down game (Provided that we don't get slaughtered at the hands of the mushroom pickers or the rials that is).

I would worry about the players pushing themselves to be fit for the game on Saturday (Jelly, Rabbitte, Walsh, Sean Brady and Lyng too), I mean I'm sure the lads would do anything to be able to play in Croke Park on Saturday. I'm just anxious that they could do them themselves an injury in effort to regain fitness in time, or otherwise declare themselves fit to play when they are not and run the risk of further damage.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Fishead_Sam on April 18, 2007, 04:20:36 PM
I was enojying this thread until it hit 51, now I feel like moaning until at lease page hundred & '07

I think the Rossies stopped posting in the early 40's
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Hollow Man on April 19, 2007, 03:32:57 PM
Cavan team v Roscommon, NFL Division 2B Semi final

Reilly, Cahill, Forde, Hannon, Brady, Reilly, Fannin, McCabe, Brennan, Cullivan,McKeever, Flanagan, Johnston, Gallagher, Reilly

changes

1 Brennan to midfield - happy enough. Saw him for the club against Lacken last friday and he was brilliant, very fit.

2 Flanagan wing forward - the lad is as cool as a cucumber. Glad to see him start.

3 Jelly in - is he fit? He came on and kicked 2 points for the Gaels v Cuchullains, hard to know if he's 100%, if we get a good 50 minutes then spring Pierson I'd be happy

The only thing I'm worried about is Gallagher - Pierson is a much bigger threat in my opinion.

Surprised Lyng is out but I'd be stunned if he doesn't figure at some stage. Some bloody good players available to bring off the bench too, the likes of Larry, Lyng, Pierson, Cunningham, Mackey and at the back Crowe...
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on April 19, 2007, 04:55:17 PM
Interesting team,i must say.

McCabe,Brennan midfield is one i like.
The Tussle between McCabe and Seamus O Neil should be worth the admission alone.

Flanagan ahead of Cunningham is suprising,wouldnt be suprised to see Flanagan drop back in between the Half back and full back line if Big Karl Mannion is full forward with Gallagher moving out to wing forward.

Not confident in Forde at full back, but we've done that to death,so il leave it at that.
Fannin at his more natural position aswell.

As Hollowman said
That is one of the strongest benches Cavan have had in id say 10 years.
Lots of players who can make an impact when brought on.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on April 19, 2007, 09:31:13 PM
Like most, I am a bit bemused by the omission of Pierson. I think our FF line has been medicore so far this year and hasn't sparked into life yet. In fact none of our FF line to date have been taking their men on at all. Saying that Pierson is still the best of them.  Maybe there is something going on behind the scenes or maybe they are trying to throw Ros and Pierson will start in the end. Brennan is really the only other option we have left but I do fear for us in the middle. Walshe would have been a great assest at spoliing ball on O Neill. My other fears are the continued hype about croke park appearances. Personally, I find it a little embarassing that a county with our history is getting so worked up about a trip to croke park for a Div2 semi final. While I'd love to see a big turn out like in the good old days, lets not loose the run of ourselves. The game is what it is a Div 2 Semi. I don't recall Leitrim going mad when they got there either. I remember cringing when Monaghan invaded the pitch when they fluked a win in the final 2 yrs ago - please god let us not go down that road too!! Secondly, I fear that the players will start buying into this hype and start thinking that the job is half done by just being in Croke park. If that attitude is allowed to seep in we will be  getting a good beating on saturday and set back all our momentum and progress.

In any case I am going to make the long trip to Dublin on Sat from Sligo and back again the same night and hopefully we'll up the tempo a bit and get a good performance and result.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Onlooker on April 19, 2007, 11:35:15 PM
I would not knock any Cavan player or fan for looking forward to playing in Croke Park and it is still an achievement for any Non Leinster county to get there and play there as often as they can, but it is very important, having got there, to play well.  Croke Park is the real test for any footballer.  Having seen Cavan play earlier in the league, I think they can win on Saturday.  It will not be easy, but a final against either Meath or Monaghan would be very interesting.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on April 20, 2007, 09:32:57 AM
Myles, I'm glad to hear you're making the trek from the northwest, some of us will be matching you for miles. RTE radio last night reckoned there are about 10k tickets sold in Cavan so far which is good, hope we get 30k in the ground and a bit of athmosphere.

Haise man, do you think we will be able to afford the luxury of Flanagan dropping back in front of Forde? I think first priority will be all shoulders to the wheel out around the middle to stop us getting swamped there (again). Don't know much about the Rossies, but assuming they're a bit ahead of the likes of Antrim and Waterford, you would have to reckon they won't fail to take advantage if they get to dominate midfield.

So it's all down to the middle third, if we could get even 40% of what's going there and get some good ball in, we can win this one.

As for the rest of the season, just in case I was going to lose the run of myself with optimism, I met a Waterford football selector yesterday. His one comment-just about the smallest inter-county team he has come across, some nice footballers mind. Faint praise but sure we all know that, just a bit sobering to be reminded of it
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: trim blue on April 20, 2007, 10:25:30 AM
Don't think the players will be buying into the hype of playing in Croker, they are there on merit but will know they haven't being playing well so will have nothing to be complacent about. After last year it was a big thing to get promoted this year so having achieved that the players should play with a bit more freedom cos anything they achieve now is a bonus. If we lose and don't perform it will be down to the obvious faultlines in this team which we have discussed on here before. Grimley's experience of big games in Croker should be a help in preparations too. Given the size of the pitch I think we will see Pierson, Lyng, Cunningham and maybe Larry all coming in (depending on injuries). Not unhappy about Brennan in midfield as he is strong and mobile, but Walsh would have been a better option if fit. The relative fitness of both teams will be important with Roscommon probably having the edge here.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Hollow Man on April 20, 2007, 10:31:44 AM
QuotePersonally, I find it a little embarassing that a county with our history is getting so worked up about a trip to croke park for a Div2 semi final.

No offence but I completely disagree.

I think this attitude of "a county with our history" is the embarrassing part here. We've been among the worst 8-10 teams in the country over the last thirty years.

At senior, we have won one Ulster title in 38 years, at minor we've one Ulster in 35 years and at Under 21 we've two Ulster titles in 40 odd years. This is a record comparable to Fermanagh or Antrim, who have actually had more success at underage.

We also haven't won a league title of any description since Moses wore short trousers.

Any trip to Croke Park is not to be sniffed at. Your statement just defies belief in my opinion (again, not an attack here, just something that really annoys me - we have no divine right to compete, the likes of Tyrone have been laughing at us living off stuff we won in the 50's and 60's for years.)

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: jaykay on April 20, 2007, 10:43:28 AM
Lads, I'm posting this for 2 reasons:

1. To try and get ye off page 52 (hence the spaces)  :P

2. To say I'm looking forward to the game on Saturday evening.  It's a great chance for counties like ourselves to have a night out under the lights.  I wouldn't pass any heed on some of the muppets slaggin' ye for not having played in Croke Park in so long.  I'd rather not be there than be on the receicing end of some of the beatings Mayo got in those last 10 years.  Chances are ye'll be there for 70 mins on Saturday not 35 like some of the Mayo "faithfull" were last September.  

Hopefully we'll have as good a game as the last time we meet in Mullingar, obviously with a different result though.

Anyway, enjoy the game and the craic before and after.

BTW fishead, the Rossies dont post much here because we have our own discussion board.  Ooh, and while I'm at it Balla is about 5 miles east of the border, look at a map ya muppet!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: jaykay on April 20, 2007, 10:44:48 AM
Quote from: jaykay on April 20, 2007, 10:43:28 AM
Lads, I'm posting this for 2 reasons:

1. To try and get ye off page 52 (hence the spaces)  :P



I guess I'm a slow typer
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on April 20, 2007, 11:07:41 AM
Thanks Jay Kay, I was actually hoping someone would move us off page '52.

It's been our problem over the last few generations of footballers to still have our mindset stuck in the successes and glories of 1952 and  before. Wanting to stay in page 52 was symbolic of this mnidset, but moving off it now shows how we are striding forward to a bold new future and, er, page 53 and beyond.

That's my story and I'm sticking to it anyway. :P
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on April 20, 2007, 11:33:08 AM
Quote from: Hollow Man on April 20, 2007, 10:31:44 AM
QuotePersonally, I find it a little embarassing that a county with our history is getting so worked up about a trip to croke park for a Div2 semi final.

No offence but I completely disagree.

I think this attitude of "a county with our history" is the embarrassing part here. We've been among the worst 8-10 teams in the country over the last thirty years.

At senior, we have won one Ulster title in 38 years, at minor we've one Ulster in 35 years and at Under 21 we've two Ulster titles in 40 odd years. This is a record comparable to Fermanagh or Antrim, who have actually had more success at underage.

We also haven't won a league title of any description since Moses wore short trousers.

Any trip to Croke Park is not to be sniffed at. Your statement just defies belief in my opinion (again, not an attack here, just something that really annoys me - we have no divine right to compete, the likes of Tyrone have been laughing at us living off stuff we won in the 50's and 60's for years.)




I am well aware of the poor record we have in recent times. I am glad that the team have got a chance to play in croke park finally. This chance has come about  out of "generosity" from the Croke park authorities as the expected attendance would probably not be enough to warrant it being played in croker under normal circumstances. We did get to a Div 1 league final not to long ago that would have been played there but for renovations. We are not in the bottom 8-10 teams in the country in my opinion if we are talking about the skill of some of our players. What irks me is that some people think by getting to croke park we have acheived something substantial. Well we haven't and if anyone thinks we have then that is a sad state of affairs. We are in a league D2 semi final. If we lose or win no one will remember in a couple of years. If we get to the final and win then we have something to get a bit excited about. I say we need to set our sights higher and treat this as a stepping stone on our way to greater things in the next few years. I will support and cheer the team on as always but I won't be coming on here declaring our great achievement of making it to croke park.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: shotstopper1 on April 20, 2007, 12:16:08 PM
In my opinion this whole thing about playing in Croke Park is getting out of hand.Yes it's great for the team to get the chance to play in Croker for the experience alone, but at the end of the day it's a Div 2 semi final, let's not get carried away.As Myles says it a stepping stone and a bonus to be in Croker.
It's not too long ago that we played the Rossies in a Div 1 semi in Mullingar.There was a time when getting to Croker meant you were either in an AI semi or final, or the National League final, in those cases there would be something to shout about.Sure nowadays most Leinster Championship games are played there,games in the Rackard,Ring and Murphy Cups have being played there, as have Ulster Championship games.
The first objective of this management team was promotion which they achieved,it would be good to get two more competitive victories under their belt before the Down game (as one of only 3 undefeated teams in the league ,why not?),but if they don't, it won't be the end of the world.


Quote from Cavan4ever
Quoteyeah i looked up the TG4 Schedule and the games aren't there.Hopefully it will encourage more people to go cos i know quiet a few lazy fcukers who weren't going to go. 

Were you as eager to get them same lazy fcukers into Breffni or Casement or Navan etc.? If the game was anywhere else other than Croker would you be as eager to get them to go?





Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: shotstopper1 on April 20, 2007, 12:18:17 PM
We could've done without this

From Hogan Stand

Brady admits dual toll

Paul Brady
20 April 2007


Cavan dual star Paul Brady has admitted that his days playing both handball and football at the highest level may be coming to an end.

Brady will compete in the All-Ireland 40x20 senior doubles final in Limerick at 12 noon (tomorrow) before heading to Croke Park to play for Cavan against Roscommon in the NFL Division Two semi-final at Croke Park (7.45pm).

"It's a bit of a disaster but, sure, it has to be done," said the Mullahoran clubman.

"I just don't think about it too much because if you did, you'd fry your brain.

"To me it is normal to play either handball or football every Friday, Saturday and Sunday, but it has been a bit hectic.

"At 27, the body's beginning to feel it more and more, so I probably won't be able to do it for much longer."

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: The Bottom Brick on April 20, 2007, 12:28:10 PM
QuoteWe are not in the bottom 8-10 teams in the country in my opinion if we are talking about the skill of some of our players

I agree with Hollow, in terms of results over the 60's/70's/80's/90's we ARE in the bottom 10 for definite.

Brady's playing in the senior doubles all ireland final in Cappagh, Co Limerick on saturday morning at 12. He should make it back up in about 21/2 or 3 hours.

He'll be OK though, they are playing Mayo and should win it easily enough
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: trim blue on April 20, 2007, 01:02:00 PM
Brady made it known earlier in the year that this was his last year for now to be playing with Cavan cos of his handball committments, he's probably only playing this year cos Keoghan's his cousin. Will be a big loss to us..
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on April 20, 2007, 01:51:00 PM
Gunner is a ridiculously gifted athlete to be able to play both at such a high level on the same day.
what a miss he will be be from next year on.
The Trip to Croke Park is hopefully the first of many to the Jones Road venue over the next few years  ;)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Fishead_Sam on April 20, 2007, 02:52:39 PM
2. To say I'm looking forward to the game on Saturday evening.  It's a great chance for counties like ourselves to have a night out under the lights.  I wouldn't pass any heed on some of the muppets slaggin' ye for not having played in Croke Park in so long.  I'd rather not be there than be on the receicing end of some of the beatings Mayo got in those last 10 years.  Chances are ye'll be there for 70 mins on Saturday not 35 like some of the Mayo "faithfull" were last September. 

Hopefully we'll have as good a game as the last time we meet in Mullingar, obviously with a different result though.

Anyway, enjoy the game and the craic before and after.

BTW fishead, the Rossies dont post much here because we have our own discussion board.  Ooh, and while I'm at it Balla is about 5 miles east of the border, look at a map ya muppet!

A Jakay whats with the abuse, for one I think you misinterpreted my posting, my reference to the pages in the 40s was a reference to Ros not winning since then much as Mayo & Cavan not winning since the 50s, not meant as an insult just fact.

Ballaghadeeren, its Mayo for football always was always will be, and 5 miles East of the border I always acknowleged that.

You need to take a chill pill, have friends from Cavan & Ros and was delighted both teams in Semis and getting to play in Croker.

No offence towards Roscommon was intended, you just might be a little slower to jump down peoples necks in future
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on April 20, 2007, 04:13:46 PM
Quote from: shotstopper1 on April 20, 2007, 12:16:08 PM


Quote from Cavan4ever
Quoteyeah i looked up the TG4 Schedule and the games aren't there.Hopefully it will encourage more people to go cos i know quiet a few lazy fcukers who weren't going to go. 

Were you as eager to get them same lazy fcukers into Breffni or Casement or Navan etc.? If the game was anywhere else other than Croker would you be as eager to get them to go?


Yes   always did and always will
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on April 20, 2007, 04:23:15 PM
I wouldn't overstate or understate the 'hype' about us getting to Croker. I don't see it being any problem tbh.

Keogan has been suitably low key about it, not a word from any of the players, no tear-jerker interviews with Jayo, Larry and Dermot about where it went wrong since 1997 and so on. Very understandably, there'll be alot of school trips and kids groups and family days out organised for Saturday evening and if these kids get hyped up about it, so much the better for the future of the game in the county because these are the future players we need to get interested and keep interested.

That aside, most observers of the game and adults know our team's limitations, know it's just a division two semi-final when all's said and done and while everyone is still somewhat relieved to have got to Croker as a monkey to get off our backs, beyond that I don't think there's anybody getting carried away really.

As someone said it's a bonus to be there and hopefully a stepping stone to something better in the years ahead.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on April 21, 2007, 11:36:47 AM
Want to wish you all a safe and hopefully enjoyable trip to and from Croker this evening.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on April 22, 2007, 12:32:41 PM
Well that was an anti climax and a half. Clearly many of our players did not play to their capacity, that said we were beaten very easily by a much better team. Ros were fitter, taller, stronger and more athletic than us. They played better football and they tactically out thought us too. We were completely wiped out at midfield. Both McCabe and Brennan seemed to be conceding 4" to their respective men. This was really our downfall as it contributed to other pressures on our team all over the pitch. I am not suprised by this as anyone who was at any of our league games would have seen this already. The question is why have management not tried to do something about this before now? If you are not going to outfield then you need to be breaking ball and crowding midfield & pick up breaks, but we didn't even do that - Or at least not until Ros took their foot of the pedal for a bit of a rest. Add to this that McCabe is just not mobile or athletic enough anymore, he stood watching as his lanky opponent ran around the pitch making up the extra man. Brennan couldn't get into the game at all but was unlucky to get the line. Onto Full Back, suprise suprise - again Forde destroyed and not even in the air. Forde is also a liability near the posts because he seems intent  on jumping into every challenge and fouling. By the time anything was done about this there was 6 points in it - game over. Forde should have got sent off too for persistant fouling. Chesty is not good enough for ctr back. I'll say it again, Gaynor is required now. Cullivan tried hard and did start jumping with the Ros giants in the 2nd half with some success. Flanagan was in and out and the wing back on him did damage going forward. Mckeever tried hard too but there was too much traffic in the Ros back line. Johnstone was our only player that could say he won his battle, maybe also cahill. Fannin very poor as was Gallagher and Pierson (who looks low on confidence to me)
Onto the management.... I can accept that Ros were just the better team but the decisions on the line were bizarre. We don't win a ball in midfield for 20 minutes so we take of jason at corner forward and bring on Pierson??? When we need a goal our prime goal scorer is now on the line for no good reason. We then move Johnstone to half forward even though he was the only threat in the FF line. Gunner is knackered so we take hime of for a rest in the 71st minute - genius!! We bring on our tallest sub for him (galligan) with time up and the game over. Surely Galligan should have gone in around the middle and tried to compete instead of Brennan much earlier. They did make a good call including johnstone I should addd.
Maybe this is our level of ability on and of the line and we should get used to it, I am just hoping that we are keeping some of our cards close to our chest. The most depressing thing is that all the hype did get a reasonable Cavan crowd to the match and after what they seen I doubt to many of them will be back. The other big negative is that there is a clear formula to beating this cavan team, big men around the pitch and drop a man or two into the defence to stop the speedy cavan forwards. Down will have taken note. I think if we want to beat down then major surgery is required. How about something as radical as this, and I am going to assume one player is brought back in to the panel and others get fit....


Reilly
Hannon
Rabitte/Gaynor (as neither would be fit to play out the field)   
Fannin
Forde
McKeever
Brady
Walshe
Mulvey
Cullivan
Lyng
Jason/Pierson
McCabe
Johnstone


   
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on April 22, 2007, 12:51:31 PM
Fairly disappointing night I'm afraid. Starting with the crowd, 19,000 officially, we could be waiting a while for another day up there, more's the pity. Make no mistake, that was division two stuff we were watching in both games last night.

I think some of the players will be incredibly disappointed, last night was a massive opportunity to cast off the shackles and go for it, too few took the chance. Thought Hannon played really well, Cullivan was quite good, after that you are struggling. And yet, had we got any sort of return from our efforts at shooting scores, we could have been a lot closer.

One thing that would really worry me is that quality of some of the decision making on the sideline. Everybody on this board as well as Stevie Wonder have spotted that (a) Forde is not a full back and (b) is much better for the team when he is out the field. Well I hope the selectors finally learnt that lesson last night, once and for all. We also saw our midfield being wiped out by ordinary teams during the earlier stages of the league, from the 8th to the 35th minute it was repeated last night. Selectors response-sub Jason Reilly in the 27th minute. I'll accept our options were limited with injuries and suspensions.

Bad and all as Down are, not sure if we will take them. Mind you, the mushroom pickers were fairly bloody ordinary as well last night. As I drove home last night I had a disturbing image of a Roscommon full forward line that included Enda Muldoon and Paddy Bradley...........ho hum........
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: DUBSFORSAM1 on April 22, 2007, 12:54:47 PM
Well unfortunatley it was a poor game from Cavan who were beaten badly at midfield and couldn't pick up the breaks.....however one thing totally baffled me...

When your 6 points down why do you put your centre forward in a sweeping position in front of your full back line and only leave 2 men in the full forward line against 3 defenders???
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on April 22, 2007, 01:13:30 PM
Myles
I was disgusted with one thing last night,the selection and Management of Keoghan and Grimley.
Forde was destroyed at full back by the big number 14,although he played ok when he was moved out
Martin Cahill was destroyed at Corner back by Ger Heneghan in the first half,although that had more to do with their Midfield destroying ours.The Ball that came into the number 15 was  awesome.No Cornerback would have played him with that type of service
I thought Michael Brennan had a decent enough game,He covered alot of ground kicked a good score and was prominent enough in open play,But hes not an Intercounty Midfielder(NOT BIG enough)
McCabe got a lesson from Seamus O Neil and also Michael Finneran the huge number 9 i think it was,he was destroyed in all aspects by both.
Yet what did the management do with our Full back and Midfield getting mauled,they brought on FORWARDS  :o
Ciaran Galligan should have been brought on after 20 minutes,Because Finneran and O Neil  wouldnt have been catching balls with ease over his head.
Gunner got an absolute roasting from Cathal Cregg the Number 12,That doesnt normaly happen.
i thought Chesty had a decent enough game...Probably not a centre half though.
I thought Fanin was also quite good.
Michael Hannon kept Mannion Quiet,and Later Heneghan.
Jonathon Crowe done ok on Mannion when he came on aswell.
Up front
Ronan Flanagan was good in all aspects.
McKeever didnt have his best night although he worked hard.
Ray Cullivan was one of the few outlets who actually won clean ball around the middle,The Management actually moved him to Mark Seamus O Neil near the end,
The 5'11 Cullivan against 6'4 or 6'5 O Neil,That was smart.
Gallagher done nothing last night.
Michael Lyng was good when he came on, as was Pierson.
I also thought Jelly done quite well last night aswell.
Larry Kicked a good score when he came on and had another one that dropped short by a matter of inches.

The Forwards kicked 14 points playing behind a beaten midfield,Id be encouraged by that.
The Backline and Midfield will have to be sorted for the Down match though.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on April 22, 2007, 01:52:03 PM
Ballyhaiseman,

I'd agree that they forwards did ok considering the amount of possesion we lost in the middle. However, Ros only allowed us into the game when they were far enough in front, anytime we looked like mounting a come back (like when Cahill blasted over instead of under the bar) they upped the gears and put us back in our box. I mean they were cantering for most of the 2nd half. Fannins use of the ball when he got it was atrocious I thought - he looked very nervous. Down will beat us easy if we don't sort midfield, Full back and get an option (i.e. big man) at Full forward.

As for Ros, with that midfield pairing they will beat Sligo easily and will run galway/Mayo tight in the connaught final. I think they could be dark horses this year - but it is hard to know how good they are and how bad we are.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on April 22, 2007, 02:27:02 PM
On the subject of tactics etc. How many balls did James Reilly kick out in the first half, nearly dropping them on a sixpence to the same spot where McCabe competed and was beaten-quite a few. A few bits of variety could have eased the midfield slaughtering. Having said that, the one time he tried it late on in the match it backfired and cost us a point. The lad can be a bit dopey by times.

Simple fact is that we are two to three players short of being a good inter county side, however sideline decisions were of absolutely no help to our cause last night.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Blue06 on April 22, 2007, 10:50:46 PM
Disappointing performance alright, would agree with most of whats been said re where our problems were and the decisions (or rather lack of them) on the line.  The tactic of taking the corner forward off when you are being destroyed in midfield is no longer even practised in Junior B football. 

This has been the first glitch (although it has been coming since the Sligo match) for the new mgt team so lets see how both they and the team respond for Down in 3 weeks.  As some have said before our minimum target for the year has been achieved in promotion, but what do we expect in the championship?  IMO if we win 2 championship matches UC or Qualifiers we will be doing well.

With everyone available this would be my team at the moment for the Down match.

1. James Reilly     (although work needs to be done to vary the kick outs)
2. Martin Cahill - has been our best defender so far in the league, Heneghan got a couple of scores off him last night but the FB line were under serious pressure
3. Michael Hannon Rabbitte has had no match practice so won't be ready in time
4. Ronan Flannagan IMO a better defender than forward
5. Anthony Forde his best position
6. Mark McKeever - With Lyngs return to the 40 I'd bring him back to the HB line
7. Jonathon Crowe - Will bring strenght to this line
8. Lorcan Mulvey - Hopefully will keep his head improve on some good passages of play shown earlier in the year
9. Nicholas Walsh - Job to spoil oppositions dangerman
10. Dermot McCabe - Interchanging with Cullivan
11. Michael Lyng - Class act
12. Paul Brady - I'd have him drop back and play alongside McKeever
13. Seanie Johnston - Must be played on the inside line, none of this nonesense of him in HF line
14. Ray Cullivan - Interchanging with Mccabe
15. Sean Brady - Has great potential, lets hope it now starts to come through. I' d have him dropping back into the HF line

I'd play it 3 4 3 2 2 with Johnston inside with either McCabe/Cullivan.
We need to turn the midfield into a scrap like we did 2 years ago. 

If Down play with a 2 man FF line I'd have Flannagan follow the roamer.

I have no confidence in Eamon Reilly, Brennan, Gallagher or Galligan.
Subs that could be used Peirson, Fannin,Jason, Larry, and either Marin Reilly or Mackay.

I know a lot of ifing and hoping there but shure lets talk about it. We are good at that.  :)







Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on April 22, 2007, 11:00:14 PM
Well the chickens came home to roost last night as I feared might happen, it's a good thing Ros weren't going for the jugular once they had the game wrapped up or it could have been worse.

The positives:

We never gave up despite being a beaten docket from a long way out.
0-14 while getting decimated at midfield isn't bad going and shows where the real strength of the team is. We have the forwards that can hurt teams.
The future of the team like Johnstone and Lyng look at home on the biggest stage.
You learn more from a defeat than a victory and now we must hope that the silver lining is surgery at full back and midfield. Winning against weak teams has papered over our problems so far, now the elephants in the room will have to be dealt with.
Hannon is far and away our best defender.
McKeever continues to work hard and is a vital player for us.
Mulvey, Walsh, Sean Brady, Rabbitte will make a difference when they come back.

The negatives:

Without spoilers like Mulvey, Walsh around the middle to bite and bollock our way to some sort of respectability or parity, we are an absolute joke at midfield. It'll be too easy to beat us and Down are quite well resourced there.
The deployment of our middle eight for the breaking ball is nothing short of horrendous. Time and time again the ball drops into an area exclusively staffed by opposition players with time to build and attack and pick out forwards. This used to be our forte, we now resemble a junior team such is our haplessness at this vital art.
McCabe is not cut out for the highest level any more. Seamie O'Neill had him in his back pocket last night. It was sad to see McCabe bullied out of it by a young fella.
Forde is not even the first cousin of an intercounty fullback, he'll better plug holes out around the half-back line.
We are crippled in the physical stakes by sheer lack of size. It looks like our underage policy of developing light, skilful talent is killing us at senior level. Policy revision required.
There was an apparent lack of brains on the sideline. This is to be expected from Keogan who is essentially a tourist in intercounty management, but you'd rely on Grimley to steer him in the right direction. Taking off Jayo when the problems were elsewhere smacked of panic and worse, rank stupidity. As did bringing Johnston out the field when he was hurting Roscommon inside when the ball did eventually make its way in.
Rory Gallagher is a f**king impostor in the Cavan jersey. Feeble, indecisive and worst of all, doesn't have the balls or the gumption to take his shot when well placed, preferring instead to pass the buck. Get him off the team now and get a real footballer in there with a bit of guts. A shocking non-peformance from a player once feared all over Ulster. Dreadful.

At dark times like this, I remind myself of the objectives back in January. Get promoted and avoid Tommy Morphine Cup ignominy, give Down a game and maybe win a qualifier or two. No reason to revise.

And on Gaynor...he won't be back, trust me on that one. 
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: trim blue on April 22, 2007, 11:11:14 PM
Although the Wexford game left me completely dissillusioned the Croker effect let my heart rule my head to the extent that I thought we might pull one out of the bag last night. We can but t**ker with the team now for the C'ship with the hope that it will lead to improvement because whats really needed are players that are bigger and more powerful and we just don't have them at the moment. While that was the main reason for our defeat last night I thought our precision when it came to passing and linking was pitiful. A number of times when we got it back to four points we had good possession around the 40 and gave it away cheaply without being under too much pressure. So to the tinkering, in Rabbittes absence Hannon should be FB, Fannin drop back to CB, Forde to CHB and Chesty to lose out, Crowe/Brennan should complete the HB line with Gunner (uncharacteristically poor last night and his man ran riot in the first half). Mulvey/Walsh to partner McCabe, Walsh if fit will have to be given a serious chance there now. Despite one good point I was not impressed with Flanagan last night but would probably give him another chance ahead of Cunningham, McKeever too was not as prominent as usual but should stay CHF, Gallagher should only be a sub if Lyng gets fit, Cullivan was our best player last night, probably best as a HF but would like to see him again at FF with Lyng putting good ball into him, Gallaghers balls in to him last night were hopeless. For me its Jelly and Pierson inside with Jayo and Larry coming in for 20 mins.There, I'm getting giddy with excitement all over again.. :D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on April 23, 2007, 08:47:05 AM
Very poor performance and only three weeks to try and patch things up.  I never though Walsh would be missed as much.  There are to many nice guys on the team and we need a couple of lads to get under the skins of the opposition and try and put them off there game.  Ciarain Galligan was carrying an injury last week and maybe that was why he wasn't introduced earlier but then why bring him on with time up.  Mccabe did try his best but their midfield was that tall he hadnt a hope of winning ball and couldn't even break it. I though brennan was very poor.  Gallagher should be told he isn't required anymore i though that he was going to be one of our main scoring forwards this year but as was said previous he is afraid to shoot.  In the first half miller did kick several kickouts cullivans way but Roscommon got cute to this and their midfield moved over towards him, why didn't mcCAbe and brennan go to the other side of the field is a mystery.  Fannin was brutal i though and i expected more from him at wing back which is more his natural position.  Flanagan kicked several chances wide as did johnston but at least he won the ball that went into him which is a positive.  I think its time to get rid of the two man full forward line aswell.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Ryano on April 23, 2007, 09:49:52 AM
Hard luck on the result lads. Not wishing to rub your nose in it but i was surprised at how poorly ye played. Thought that after going unbeaten we were in for a rough ride. I would agree with comments on the management too, some very strange decisions taken by them. There was no way you were going to win but i thought they could have made a better job of damage limitation. Your midfield was completely out of it so why ye kept dropping kick outs on top of them was beyond me. Short kick outs and play the wings might have been a better idea. But the one that really puzzled me was moving Johnston from the corner out to the HF line. He had his marker (Seanie Mac) beaten up a stick and was getting to any ball that was dropped within 10 yards of him. Mac was booked and i thought he was well on his way to getting a second yellow before ye changed Johnston. Mac was actually sent off on the same man last year up in Breffni park in the Murphy cup. Hard luck again lads, hope ye get back on track for the championship.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Maximus Marillius on April 23, 2007, 01:29:31 PM
Went down to your game and Monaghans on saturday night. Very disappointed with the fair. Went as an Ulster man, thought Monaghan would get it tough and expected ye to do better. Unfortunately ye were a mess, no midfield with a shity full back and I have to say ye are as small a team as I have seen at couny level for many a year. Brennan is not county standard. Your keeper much be absolutely stupid. Down will be extremely difficult to beat on this performance
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on April 23, 2007, 01:46:04 PM
Max
we have been complaining about the lack of big men on the team for months.
The Waterford Manager described us as the "Smallest Senior Intercounty team" hes ever seen according to one of the cavan posters on here.
(PS Max Ballyhaise won at the weekend  ;) )
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Maximus Marillius on April 23, 2007, 01:59:05 PM
Haise how many is thbat ye have won in this years league....and how many have ye lost?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on April 23, 2007, 02:11:06 PM
1 win 1 draw and 2 defeats Max
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: CavanCola on April 23, 2007, 03:56:05 PM

From the Hoganstand:

"The Cavan school never looked back after Smith struck for two goals in the first half. During the same period, however, two Virginia players – Eugene Keating and Michael Smith – were stretchered off with serious injuries."


Are these two guys on the cavan minor team? Anyone know how badly injured they are?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on April 23, 2007, 04:38:13 PM
Eugene Keating is a super player and would have been one of the key players for the Cavan Minors this year,
Not sure about Michael Smith.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: The Bottom Brick on April 23, 2007, 05:20:09 PM
Keating beat Monaghan minors on his own 2 weeks ago.

Suspected fractured ankle according to Irish News. That's the minors fucked as well then
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on April 23, 2007, 07:33:44 PM
Sorry to be a real bore here folks but I'm going to get back to a topic I banged on about before going into winter hibernation. It's topical in view of the crazy decision making on the line on Saturday night. Who is the boss man, Keogan or Grimley? This is not a trick question, I just want to know where the buck stops. From my understanding, Grimley was seriously rated up in Armagh and left because he saw his way to Joes job as being blocked by some appointment or other up there.

I imagine we can take it then that this is a seriously ambitious guy, willing to back his own judgement. If he got restless being Kernan's understudy it's fair to say he didn't come down here to be Keogan's Number 2, well not unless there is serious mullah involved, and we know our county board would not waste their money on an expensive journeyman, now would they.

I don't want to get negative at an early stage of the season, we got up, maybe we will learn some lessons for the Down game. However, I would love to know what the structure is because if it's not clear to the playing panel, say, it's not going to work. If it's not clear (e.g If Grimley feels like he is punching with one hand tied behind his back) it probably won't last too long.

Any insights welcome.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: trim blue on April 23, 2007, 07:54:38 PM
Anglo, the last time I checked it was still McCabe who was calling all the shots ;D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on April 23, 2007, 07:57:30 PM
The rumour at the time of the appointment was that Keoghan was forking out the dosh himself to bring Grimley and others on board and that it was this that swung the job his way instead of cassidy. I did notice at the start of the game the team moved up to the canal end with Grimley doing their warm up drills and Keoghan was down at hill 16 collecting balls and doddling up the field with them. Looked more like a ball-boy than a manager.
I do have a sneaking suspicion that the management way have a plan B for the championship. In the past we have totally shown our hand during good league campaigns giving our opposition in the championship plenty of time to come up with a formula to beat us. Maybe this time we are keeping them guessing?? Or maybe I am giving too much credit to what seems, on the face of it, a poor management team.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: The Bottom Brick on April 23, 2007, 10:20:41 PM
Grimley's the main man, Keogan's only a front. During I think it was the Sligo match, I saw Grimley warming up a sub and bringing him on when Keogan was 50 yards away oblivious...

To give them some credit, at one stage the fella I was sitting beside turned to me and said "if you were the manager, what would you?", and he had a point. We had nothing on the bench to solve midfield - Galligan and Thomas just don't cut it - and we had already moved Hannon in to full back. What else was there to do??

By the way, Jason HAD to have been injured (I heard after he was carrying a niggle)? Surely...
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on April 24, 2007, 08:23:16 AM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on April 23, 2007, 07:57:30 PM

I do have a sneaking suspicion that the management way have a plan B for the championship. In the past we have totally shown our hand during good league campaigns giving our opposition in the championship plenty of time to come up with a formula to beat us.

If there isn't a plan B Down will hammer us because its the same system the whole league and every county knows it now.  The more i think about Saturday nite it was a bad  performance but was it as bad as it looked.  If we had of won even 35-40% at midfield and converted a small amount of the wides we prob would have won the game, maybe im totally wrong. 

Maybe my head is gone but im not going to give up on them yet.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Uladh on April 24, 2007, 10:15:54 AM

Why were cavan so poor at midfield and are there personnel who could come in and make a difference?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on April 24, 2007, 11:16:30 AM
Uladh, McCabe was our only recognised, fit intercounty midfielder for last Saturday night. He had an industrious first 15 mins or so then completely tired and was bossed about by O'Neill. His partner Michael Brennan is a utility man but isn't much good at any of the jobs he's put in to do. He has been tried in virtaully every defensive position, midfield and half forwards and might make a decent fist of wing back but you wouldn't be overly confident.

Other midfielders on panel are Walsh (injured), Mulvey (suspended) and Galligan (came on with a min to go, rumoured to have had a knock but looked to be moving very freely in warm up before throw-in). These guys are all big, tall and phyiscal and should make a difference when they return. None of them are exactly in the mould of Darragh O'Se or anything but they should disrupt the opposition and support McCabe more effectively, and hopefully break the ball to a set of half backs and forwards who are positioned and primed to dive in much better than they were on Saturday night.

The plan B idea is nice to cling to but from what I could see, we were foot-down, out to our last on Sat night and it's hard to see where much improvement will come from. As someone said, it's ironic to think we're all looking forward to Walsh's return as much as we are but needs must...with two of the above three back, Lyng starting and hopefully some sort of heed taken of where we went wrong and mistakes made against Roscommon, we can be competitive against Down.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: trim blue on April 24, 2007, 11:29:42 AM
Quote from: cavan4ever on April 24, 2007, 08:23:16 AM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on April 23, 2007, 07:57:30 PM

I do have a sneaking suspicion that the management way have a plan B for the championship. In the past we have totally shown our hand during good league campaigns giving our opposition in the championship plenty of time to come up with a formula to beat us.

If there isn't a plan B Down will hammer us because its the same system the whole league and every county knows it now.  The more i think about Saturday nite it was a bad  performance but was it as bad as it looked.  If we had of won even 35-40% at midfield and converted a small amount of the wides we prob would have won the game, maybe im totally wrong. 

Maybe my head is gone but im not going to give up on them yet.


The more I think about it the more I see the main problem with MF and FB masking another equally big problem which is to do with our use of the possession we do get. Countless times especially in the 2nd half our moves broke down through lack of precision in either foot or hand passing or through lack of concentartion. This was nothing to do with lack of size or power. This lack of accurracy was also evident in the amount of wides we had. Up to their 1st goal we were actually doing well, we were a point up but then Jelly missed coming in off his corner and Gallagher missed badly when well placed, he also gave away another ball or two at this stage with poor passes inside. In the lead up to the killer 2nd goal Fannin (or Duggan as the announcer called him going off) lost possession of a ball he was first to on our '40. They were still much the better side but while they won midfield through their own efforts our efforts helped them greatly too elsewhere around the pitch. Improving on this aspect of our game can be helped by drills, more time with the ball but there is still the question of basic natural ability and whether we are 'good enough'. I certainly think we can improve in this area and with a lot of the same players we have done it in the past. The consolation for me is that we were not beatan on Sat while fielding our best players or best team so there has to be grounds for some hope in the Championship. If we get Mulvey/Walsh in there for Down and have Lyng fit and rarin to go from the start on the '40 then even this will improve greatly on the performance we saw on Sat. After that some positional switches (Fannin back to CB, Hannon to FB, Forde to CHB etc) could also give us that 30% improvement thats needed.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on April 24, 2007, 05:38:10 PM
Wouldn't disagree with alot of that. If we heed the lessons we should be able to give Down a game on the 13th.

The points you make on use of the ball are interesting. I think that outside the top 3 or 4 teams in the country, the players' ability to kick the ball accurately is absolutely deplorable. That's why Aussies come over and embarrass us by their skill on the ball, among other things. The handpass, and some teams cannot even do that accurately any more, is killing the natural skills of gaelic football.

Jack O'Connor's recent article in Irish Times raised this point and he suggested outlawing any team from making more than two handpasses in a row. Might be tough to police initially but we've done it with the two hops rule, so maybe this would work.

Anyway, one way or the other let's hope we find that 30% you mentioned.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on April 24, 2007, 10:14:35 PM


   Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
« Reply #813 on: April 23, 2007, 07:54:38 PM » 

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Anglo, the last time I checked it was still McCabe who was calling all the shots 



Nice one TB, now I've promised myself I won't be a bitterly cynical again until we have a season as fucked up as last years, which hopefully won't be for a long time, so I will neither agree or disagree on that one.

One topic that really came home to roost last Saturday night, which has been wrecking my head for a long time, was the lack of physique/physical power in the team (stop yawning up the back). I don't get to see any games up there any more so when I attend the odd county game down in the boon docks a few of us are always struck by the appearance of the very odd lad that looks like he at least has the physique of an inter-county footballer. I've had a think about this and have come up with a list of potential panelists that would give us a bit more in this area-Rabbitte, Podge Reilly, Gaynor, Gavin Duffy, Dermot Sheridan, Jonathon Crowe, Mulvey, Walsh, Ciaran Galligan, Cunningham, Alan Clarke.

Now I know people will have questions as to the ability of some of these guys. My point is, that for next  years league campaign, which will be a tester, we should be able to muster up enough players in a panel of 30 to at least give us some spine up the middle. We have to be able to compete with big men on the opposition, have the ability to retain possession, hit if needed, win ball in at full forward etc. etc. We have any number of good ball players who could feed of the efforts of some combination of these blokes. Another point is that some of these players need to be persisted with, worked on. Pierce McKenna was nobodys idea of an inter county footballer when he started out, he was given a chance and we would be glad to have him back right now. I'm not even going to suggest guys like McKenna, T Crowe, P Brady and Tierney for the purpose of this as I don't think it's going to happen at this stage.

One thing that gives me hope is that we started off the year with a good few big men, suspensions and injuries deprived us of a few last weekend, so it's fair to say the management team must be aware of the need in this area
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on April 24, 2007, 10:29:10 PM
Of Course this years panel is set in stone with just over 2 weeks to go before the Down Game,
But id agree with all those names you've thrown out AnglCelt,and i could add in a few of my own,but well ive done that lots in the past.
we need a bit of size through the team,
a Big Full back
a big Centre Half,
One or maybe two 6'3 plus midfielder/s
plus a targetman.

Meath might be no great shakes,but did anyone of you see the size of the spine of their team,They absolutely dwarfed Monaghan

Darren Fay 6'2 at Full Back
(Caoimhin King at wing back is also 6'2 plus)
Anthony Moyles 6'2 at Centre Back
Mark Ward and Nigel Crawford at midfield both 6'4
Kevin  Reily at Centre Forward 6'3

counting our goalkeeper we had at most 4 players who were 6ft of over starting against Roscommon.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on April 25, 2007, 04:35:41 PM
Yeah all the Riles had to do was bomb high ball in on top of the Monaghan backs and the Farney boys coughed up a goal or a scoring opportunity almost every time.

I can't really offer an opinion as to the coaching development priorities in Cavan or average heights and size of the natives over the generations but assuming we're as likely to produce the same average number of able-bodied, big, physically strong men who play football, as they do in Armagh etc, then surely we must be deliberately implementing a policy at underage of favouring the development of light, skilful smallish lads who look great then, as opposed to retaining a core of physically strong guys who will stand out better when they move up the age ranks? I dunno. I just can't think it's all purely fate that we have no big men on our teams for God knows how long.

Somebody made a great shout on here ages ago about a physically strong, stout and hearty Parnells U21 team who in a final more than put it up to a bunch of stylists, albeit light ones, from Castlerahan, and almost won out. Where did those guys go? Is there nobody on that team worth a run with the county seniors? Perhaps not, and maybe it's too simplistic an argument to assume they're good enough and could do a job just because they're big, but I still think that as an absolute priority the county board has to direct coaches to actively seek out big, strong players and develop them in tandem with the small and skilful lads we seem to produce in droves, as opposed to favouring one type over the other as they seem to be doing at the moment.

Thoughts?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: DUBSFORSAM1 on April 25, 2007, 05:01:03 PM
Have to agree the lack of size amongst the Cavan players on Sat was shocking...I felt sorry for McCabe with competing against 2 6'4 players in midfield for every kickout...
Mark Ward for Meath was a poor footballer but he won ball and just laid it off...Caavan have good players if they could get the ball...

The other aspect that has to be looked at is your forward line....why the fu*k when your 6 points down do you bring McKeever back to sweep in front of your full backline and then a full forward out to centre forward leaving 3 defenders against 2 forwards inside...especially and you then don't hit McKeever with kickouts!!!!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on April 25, 2007, 05:16:31 PM
Quote from: DUBSFORSAM1 on April 25, 2007, 05:01:03 PM

The other aspect that has to be looked at is your forward line....why the fu*k when your 6 points down do you bring McKeever back to sweep in front of your full backline and then a full forward out to centre forward leaving 3 defenders against 2 forwards inside...especially and you then don't hit McKeever with kickouts!!!!

Thats the way cavan have been playing all year!! Its the game plan  ::)  and hopefully it will be the last we see of it.  Whatever about bringing one of the full forward line out around half forward/midfield at least his man might follow him and leave the room in side.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on April 25, 2007, 05:24:52 PM
Quote from: cavanmaniac on April 25, 2007, 04:35:41 PM
Yeah all the Riles had to do was bomb high ball in on top of the Monaghan backs and the Farney boys coughed up a goal or a scoring opportunity almost every time.

I can't really offer an opinion as to the coaching development priorities in Cavan or average heights and size of the natives over the generations but assuming we're as likely to produce the same average number of able-bodied, big, physically strong men who play football, as they do in Armagh etc, then surely we must be deliberately implementing a policy at underage of favouring the development of light, skilful smallish lads who look great then, as opposed to retaining a core of physically strong guys who will stand out better when they move up the age ranks? I dunno. I just can't think it's all purely fate that we have no big men on our teams for God knows how long.

Somebody made a great shout on here ages ago about a physically strong, stout and hearty Parnells U21 team who in a final more than put it up to a bunch of stylists, albeit light ones, from Castlerahan, and almost won out. Where did those guys go? Is there nobody on that team worth a run with the county seniors? Perhaps not, and maybe it's too simplistic an argument to assume they're good enough and could do a job just because they're big, but I still think that as an absolute priority the county board has to direct coaches to actively seek out big, strong players and develop them in tandem with the small and skilful lads we seem to produce in droves, as opposed to favouring one type over the other as they seem to be doing at the moment.

Thoughts?


Of that Parnells team I can tell you that At least from Killeshandra there was Declan McKiernan, Thomas Reilly and Daragh Tighe that are on the county minors this year. The first two of them are big lads at minor but obviously not senior size yet. There was also Cormac Geoghan than was on the U21s, he is from cornafaen - heard he didn't do that well with them. There are some good prospects there and I'd rate McKiernan as a good footballer who is definetely not afraid to give a dig or two, but thos guys are 3 years away from the seniors I reckon.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: DUBSFORSAM1 on April 25, 2007, 08:33:44 PM
Quote from: cavan4ever on April 25, 2007, 05:16:31 PM
Quote from: DUBSFORSAM1 on April 25, 2007, 05:01:03 PM

The other aspect that has to be looked at is your forward line....why the fu*k when your 6 points down do you bring McKeever back to sweep in front of your full backline and then a full forward out to centre forward leaving 3 defenders against 2 forwards inside...especially and you then don't hit McKeever with kickouts!!!!

Thats the way cavan have been playing all year!! Its the game plan  ::)  and hopefully it will be the last we see of it.  Whatever about bringing one of the full forward line out around half forward/midfield at least his man might follow him and leave the room in side.

Why not instead play someone like McCabe in full forward who can actually win 50-50 ball and create chances rather than pulling forwards out to midfield - let the midfielders win teh ball themselves and have someone to kick it to...
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Hollow Man on April 25, 2007, 08:37:13 PM
QuoteSomebody made a great shout on here ages ago about a physically strong, stout and hearty Parnells U21 team who in a final more than put it up to a bunch of stylists, albeit light ones, from Castlerahan, and almost won out.

So we should fill our county team with big lads who already proved that they're not as good as the lighter fellas? You're panicking here!!!

I saw that final and Castlerahan we're ten times better. It was played in December on a brutal pitch - championships are played in summer on good pitches.

Cavan will be alright - we've already made good progress. Meath are in the league final and were lucky to draw with us. Wexford are a damn good team and we drew with them too.

Last week, we were missing Mulvey, Sean Brady, Walsh, you may as well say Paul Brady, Rabbitt. We had maybe 30% at midfield, yet our forwards racked up 14 points and kicked 16 wides.

We had a brutal first half but we won the second don't forget.

Plus, I always think losing by two goals eg 2-8 to 2-8 actually isn't as bad as losing say 0-14 to 0-8 if you get my drift (sounds stupid I know). We know our best team now I think - Mulvey and McCabe at the middle, Hannon full back, Cullivan full forward in place of Gallagher with Pierson in the corner. Lyng centre half. Forde centre back.

Bob's your uncle.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on April 25, 2007, 10:07:17 PM
QuoteSo we should fill our county team with big lads who already proved that they're not as good as the lighter fellas? You're panicking here!!!


That's a slightly disingenuous interpretation of my post as a whole don'cha think? I take your point but we're going nowhere without size and I'm just wondering are we discarding good big players because of some misguided total football notion that we'll prosper with nice, inoffensive sunshine footballers like Mackey...
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on April 26, 2007, 10:32:09 AM
Quote from: Hollow Man on April 25, 2007, 08:37:13 PM
QuoteSomebody made a great shout on here ages ago about a physically strong, stout and hearty Parnells U21 team who in a final more than put it up to a bunch of stylists, albeit light ones, from Castlerahan, and almost won out.

So we should fill our county team with big lads who already proved that they're not as good as the lighter fellas? You're panicking here!!!

I saw that final and Castlerahan we're ten times better. It was played in December on a brutal pitch - championships are played in summer on good pitches.

Cavan will be alright - we've already made good progress. Meath are in the league final and were lucky to draw with us. Wexford are a damn good team and we drew with them too.

Last week, we were missing Mulvey, Sean Brady, Walsh, you may as well say Paul Brady, Rabbitt. We had maybe 30% at midfield, yet our forwards racked up 14 points and kicked 16 wides.

We had a brutal first half but we won the second don't forget.

Plus, I always think losing by two goals eg 2-8 to 2-8 actually isn't as bad as losing say 0-14 to 0-8 if you get my drift (sounds stupid I know). We know our best team now I think - Mulvey and McCabe at the middle, Hannon full back, Cullivan full forward in place of Gallagher with Pierson in the corner. Lyng centre half. Forde centre back.

Bob's your uncle.


Was at that U21 final myself and don't know how you reckon Castlerahan were the better team. It was fairly even I thought and Parnells could have nicked it. As for Mackey, well he was total rubbish that day and it was hard to believe he was on the senior county panel.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on April 27, 2007, 12:50:18 PM
We didn't perform on the day,'' says Keogan from Hoganstand
26 April 2007


Speaking after the game on Saturday 21st April in Croke Park, Cavan team-manager Donal Keogan said he was disappointed with the result. "We just didn't perform on the night, and many of our key players struggled in the Croke Park arena.

"They were physically stronger around the middle of the field and we struggled in this vital area for long periods of the game. It meant that our defence was put under a lot of pressure, and with top forwards such as Heneghan, Kenny and Mannion the scores were bound to come.

"On the night the better side won, and deservedly so. We know we can and have played better, and the players themselves are very disappointed with the outcome of the game.

"We now face Down in the Ulster SFC in the coming weeks and that game now becomes our main focus. We know we have a big task ahead of us, considering that Down defeated us last season in the championship and are renowned as a championship side. We don't underestimate the challenge ahead, but we have the chance to turn our season around if we can get a win over Down in Kingspan/Breffni Park, Cavan on May 13th.''

Keogan added that they hope to have a number of players such as Lorcan Mulvey and Nicholas Walsh back for the Down game, while Michael Lyng and Larry Reilly will great strengthen their options in the forward division.

He added: "The Cavan side have done well this season in gaining promotion to Division 2 of the NFL next season. The disappointment of the Roscommon defeat will be quickly forgotten if we can overcome Down on the 13th of May, and get a positive start to the championship campaign. The management have every confidence and belief in the players, and a great effort by management and players will be forthcoming in the coming weeks to achieve that result,'' he concluded.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: trim blue on April 29, 2007, 07:30:45 PM
Well that result today puts things in perspective for us, or as they say in Spinal Tap - too much f**king perspective.  ;D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on April 29, 2007, 08:20:01 PM
was O Neil playing? or even if he was, was he anywere near fit,Hes huge for them.
Didnt bother my arse going into Breffini,anyone go?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on April 29, 2007, 11:06:00 PM
Didn't go but seen a bit on the highlights on TG4. O Neill came on as a sub before half time. The one thing that has struck me about Meath this year is the amount of goals they get and how often they prove the difference in games. I think Cavans return on goals this year has been very poor. None against Meath, Sligo, Wicklow or Wexford (I'm leaving out Antrima and Waterford for obvious reasons). We also haven't looked like getting them when in the past we always had a reputation as a team that would score goals. Where has it gone wrong this year? Is it as simple as our goal scorer supreme, jason, slowing up a bit.

Ballyhaiseman - another narrow defeat at the w'end. Are county men allowed play in these games.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on April 29, 2007, 11:28:11 PM
Yeh narrow defeat,
Jonathon Crowe and Rory Gallagher were playing for C'Lough,
Cullivan wasnt playing for us,dont know what was wrong if hes injured or what?
we had a bad start, were 1-04 to 0-01 down,The goal coming off a mistake from one of our inexperienced Cornerbacks.
Although from then on,we gave as good as we got..but couldnt claw our way back.

Crowe was very good playing midfield
Gallagher kicked one great score from play,Scored a few from frees and missed a few aswell..playing full forward.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on April 30, 2007, 10:57:26 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on April 29, 2007, 11:06:00 PM
The one thing that has struck me about Meath this year is the amount of goals they get and how often they prove the difference in games.

And in particular, Brian Farrell. He must have bagged at least 6 during the league this year if not more...
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: CC1 on May 01, 2007, 04:40:54 PM
Some lad posted this up on hoganstand:
Quote from: IshmaelOk here comes the debate of all debates.
I've taken into consideration the 2006 League and Championship, clubs current standings in the league at present and number of county ex-county players (to a lesser extent). In MY opinion, here's how your club ranks in Cavan Football:

1. Cavan Gaels
2. Mullahoran
3. Ballinagh
4. Castlerahan
5. Gowna
6. Cuchulainns
7. Crosserlough
8. Kingscourt
9. Belturbet
10. Denn
11. Lacken
12. Drumalee
13. Belturbet
14. Killygarry
15. Drumlane
16. Ballyhaise
17. Ramor
18. Lavey
19. Knockbride
20. Drumgoon
21. Redhills
22. Drung
23. Cootehill
24. Laragh
25. Shercock
26. Baileboro
27. Ballymachugh
28. Swadlinbar
29. Cavan Gaels (B)
30. Kill
31. Butlersbridge
32. Kildallon
33. Shannon Gaels
34. Munterconnaught
35. Killeshandra
36. Templeport
37. Arva
38. Mullahoran (B)
39. Maghera
40. Corlough
41. Mountnugent
I know there are a few mistakes here and there (the omissions of Cornafean and Killinkere and Belturbet in twice). Just wondering what everyone's thoughts are. I think it is fairly accurate...
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on May 02, 2007, 02:50:10 PM
According to some lad on the Hoganstand message board, Cavan beat longford well at the weekend. The same lad also claims gaynor was playing at corner back and McCabe started FF. I have no idea if there is a grain of truth to this. Has anyone any info on it? Also seen on Hoganstand that Walsh and Mulvey will be back for the Down match even though Walsh didn't play for the gaels win over Belturbet at the weekend.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on May 02, 2007, 02:58:32 PM
i wouldn't read much into it myles 80% of stuff written on that is lies.  Mulvey's suspenion will be up before the down game.  No nothing about Walsh.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on May 02, 2007, 03:18:45 PM
I'll eat my hat if Gaynor is involved in the county team under Keogan. Now I don't even wear a hat, but I'd find one somewhere and eat it nonetheless.

Walsh is supposed to be training away for a few weeks wihtout any reaction so hopefully we'll get a few minutes antagonistic-type play out of him against Down at the very least. On the basis of the Roscommon wipe-out, he's badly needed.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on May 02, 2007, 08:40:18 PM
He saw the wild head of hair on Hannon probably and thought it was gaynor. Sorry for posting such wild rumour. Apparantley we did beat Longford well so that is good. This time of the year we normally get hammered in some challenge game (like V Dublin 2 yrs ago)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: trim blue on May 02, 2007, 11:09:31 PM
The lad on Hoganstand said Gaynor was in the corner so this makes it more than likely that he is mixing him up with Hannon, if this is true then the worse part of this is that Hannon is still in the corner and not being tried at FB. :(
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on May 03, 2007, 11:20:27 AM
That's most likely. Hannon's whin-bush-in-a-force-ten-gale hairstyle would make you think he was Gaynor alright.

I presume it was still Forde at no.3 then, yeah?  ::)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on May 03, 2007, 07:54:00 PM
Challenge games wins for Cavan minor and senior sides
03 May 2007


During the past week, Cavan minor and senior teams have been preparing diligently for the forthcoming Ulster championship clashes with Down in Kingspan/Breffni Park, Cavan on Sunday week, 13th of May.

The senior side travelled to Killoe, Co. Longford during the week and had a convincing victory over Longford in a competitive challenge game. After a close opening half, the Cavan side upped their game in the second-half and pulled away for an impressive win.
The county minor team were also in action during the week when they played Westmeath in a challenge game on Tuesday evening in Mullingar. The Cavan side turned in an impressive performance especially in attack, and ran out convincing winners in the end. The highlight of the game was some excellent point scoring by the Breffni side.

Now the focus for both sides is their championship meetings with Down on Sunday week. Preparations seem to be going well, and hopefully, they can 'do the business' in front of their own supporters in Kingspan/Breffni Park on May 13th
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
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Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on May 04, 2007, 08:02:11 PM
havent been online much due to exams.
Things are too quiet on here.
At least let us start ridiculous speculation as to what the team for May 13th should be.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on May 04, 2007, 11:53:26 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on May 04, 2007, 08:02:11 PM
havent been online much due to exams.
Things are too quiet on here.
At least let us start ridiculous speculation as to what the team for May 13th should be.

To kick of the ridiculous speculation.....

The Cavan Team will be

James Reilly (hopefully with some ants in his pants to keep him awake)
Hannon
Forde (cos they ain't for turning in the management)
Fannin
Brady
McKeever
Crowe
Walshe
Mulvey
Cullivan
Lyng
Sean Brady
Pierson
McCabe (apparently tried here in recent friendly v Longford)
Johnson

I am trying to get some size into this team and I reckon McKeever is needed at Ctr Back, so what do ye think of that.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on May 05, 2007, 01:56:06 PM
agree with most of what you suggest there Myles. There are probably 11/12 people on your team that will start, it's a case of what position. There are two things to think about here, firstly who we think should start and, more importantly who will start on the day. Any set of selectors like to be seen as their own men etc. etc. and not being responding to the latest set of demands from supporters, pub selectors, media or internet screen jockeys. So as regards people that will start I am fairly certain that Eamon Reilly will start as he's been there all through the league-might be better on the wing or in the corner though. I also wouldn't rule out Gallagher starting either for the reason that his coming on board was seen as a coup by Keogan etc. etc. Not saying I'm fierce excited about either person starting but on will start and two may do so.

As for your predicted starting 15 the biggest concern is A Forde at Number 3. It's all been said here before and won't go into it again. I would turn the clock right back to the mid 90's when he came on the scene as a half forward and would get him up there again. He was turned into a defender to help cope with the lack of defenders at the time (ditto Peter Reilly) and while he has always been superb on the ball, his tackling remains a bit suss-as in the Rossie game at Croker. Out the field he is a serious forager, will get to the breaks around the middle and can get good quick ball in to the forwards. Hannon for full back in the absence of Rabbitte or the great un-named one of Ballinagh. Not perfect but has to be done. Incidentally, I think Hannon is the best corner back we have seen in a blue jersey in many's a day-good with ball in hand, good with ball not in hand, gets forward by times and good natural force/aggression which is well channeled. Would have been an automatic pick on the 97 team in my opinion.
Agree with McKeever at CHB-needed to strengthen that line hopefully he can turn in another like the Armagh game a few years ago which I thought was one of the better championship performances by a Cavan player in the last few years. Would consider Flanagan for a place somewhere, possibly in the half back line.

Options at mid field and half forward line to compete out the middle, which is what is needed. Also agree with having McCabe in at Full Forward, looks like the legs just can't quite take the full 70 minutes championship football any more. He can do stints out there with Cullivan or Sean Brady moving in if needed. Toss up between Jason or Pierson to start. Jason still has that goal getting threat which could be a clincher if things are tight.

So, some tight selection decisions to be made and we have to rely on the management team to make the calls in terms of up to the mimute form, confidence and, importantly, fitness levels for the likes of Sean Brady and Walsh.

Having the likes of Lyng, Mulvey, Walsh, Sean Brady available for selection gives us the chance to put out a much more competitive outfit than lined out against the Rossies, Hope the selectors get it right and we end up smiling. But please, move Forde out-I'm sure ho would welcome the prospect as well.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on May 05, 2007, 09:48:18 PM
Is the minor game on before the senior game next Sunday?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on May 05, 2007, 11:02:22 PM
Usually is.

Heard very little so far about our minor team being the best since our last great minor team of last year, so maybe that's a plus.

We've restored respect at senior level after last year. We need it all to go right on Sunday, Down only need some of it to go right but feck it, with an improved approach on the sideline, a full 70 minute performance and a bit of luck we can extend the season. Here's hoping.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on May 06, 2007, 10:52:20 AM
my team for Down would be

1.Miller
2.Cahill
3.Hannon
4.Fannin
5.Gunner
6.McKeever
7.Forde
8.Mulvey
9.Walsh
10.Cullivan
11.Lyng
12. Sean Brady
13.Pierson
14.McCabe
15.Jelly

Crowe,Brennan  Chesty ,Cunningham and Jayo very unlucky to miss out.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on May 08, 2007, 09:43:16 PM
Was reading an article on the hoganstand that Cavan, for the 1st time in a long time, have a full panel to choose from. Then up pops another article informing us that Darren Rabbitte won't make it.

So we have all named our teams, so what about a guess at the score. Can't see goals in us with Jayo likely to be on the bench and I can see goals in Down with Coulter likely to go in on Forde. Taking a cold hearted look at it I would guess the following score...

Down 2-10
Cavan 0-13

Hopefully I will be wrong and you can all call me a negative bollocks next Sunday ;)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on May 08, 2007, 11:01:11 PM
Ah feck it myles can we not just call ye a negative ould bollocks now??!! ;D

On team selection, Ballyhaise man and I are on the same hymn sheet here:

1.Miller
2.Cahill
3.Hannon (we can't carry Forde here any longer, nuff said)
4.Fannin
5.Gunner
6.McKeever (Chesty ain't a number 6. Why hasn't he tried out at number 3, his club position?)
7.Forde
8.Mulvey
9.Walsh
10.Cullivan
11.Lyng
12. Sean Brady
13.Pierson
14.McCabe
15.Jelly

I like the look of that team. My biggest problems were Forde at no. 3, Chesty at no.6 and the need for both good scavengers and physical strength in the middle eight. Gunner, McKeever and Forde are a decent half back line in that respect, Crowe another gutsy option too. Mulvey and Walsh will be well aided on any potential spoiling mission by a physically strong Cullivan and Sean Brady who plays midfield for both his clubs UCD and Castlerahan and does well there. He also has a nice eye for a pass inside (had a very productive opening 15 mins against Kildare last year in this respect) as does Lyng, which is vital if we're to hit McCabe accurately and indeed more so the smaller lads who need virtually clean ball to get hands to it.

Throw Larry and Jayo into the mix for the last 15 mins of a tight match, to hopefully feed off a still functional McCabe, and things look positive. That's the plan anyway, as we all know, there's many a slip between cup and lip....
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on May 09, 2007, 08:38:53 AM
Anyone hear anything about our county manager misbehaving at the weekend ?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: lynchbhoy on May 09, 2007, 08:43:09 AM
lads
is it all ticket on Sun ?

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on May 09, 2007, 08:47:47 AM
i heard it was and then i heard it was just the covered stand that was ticket.  If it was gonna be all-ticket id say they would be out by now.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on May 09, 2007, 09:24:45 AM
Paul Grimley's Armagh involvement has been firmly cast aside and a new dawn beckons for him as trainer to the Cavan footballers who face Down in the 2007 Ulster SFC opener at Breffni Park this Sunday.

So far, he has been delighted with the commitment which his new charges have given to himself and new Cavan manager Donal Keoghan.

"They don't give any trouble and they are very dedicated and committed to their training and they are very keen to do well which from a management or training point of view is always a plus," Grimley said.

Assistant manager to Armagh supremo Joe Kernan for five years, Grimley stepped down last August having helped guide the Orchard county to the 2002 All-Ireland title and four Ulster SFC titles along with a National League crown.

He feels there is no difference in the commitment shown by this Cavan side and the Armagh players, whom he trained so successfully.

"There is no difference (between them). I have been involved with Armagh for five years and the fantastic work ethic that they had and their great attitude with that. Obviously when I came to Cavan I tried to instill that in these players and thankfully they have responded to that."

Having lost last year's corresponding fixture, it will certainly mean a lot to Cavan supporters if their side can beat Down this coming weekend.

Grimley believes that psychologically, his players are well positioned for victory.

"The players are in a good frame of mind. They are all looking forward to the Ulster championship and they are very upbeat and very positive and obviously last year's result is long gone as is our league programme. We are looking forward to taking on Down. There is a challenge there that has to be met and especially when it is at home."

The Armagh Harps clubman feels that there may be an Ulster championship in this team this year.

"I think when you are involved in management you have to believe that whatever you are doing is the right thing and you have to believe that it will take you as far as you possibly want to go," continued Grimley.

"We want to get to an Ulster final. It remains to be seen if we can get that far. Obviously we are not taking our eye off the ball, we realise here that we have a very strong challenge to overcome this Sunday.

"The attitude here is that while it would be lovely to be involved in an Ulster final, we have to take one game at a time. We are under no illusions as to what it will take.

He is cautious not to let the thoughts of Cavan supporters influence the players, adding: "The players are mentally very strong themselves but at the end of the day supporters don't win matches - it's the footballers who win them. As far as people would say good players make good managers."
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: lynchbhoy on May 09, 2007, 10:22:38 AM
Quote from: cavan4ever on May 09, 2007, 08:47:47 AM
i heard it was and then i heard it was just the covered stand that was ticket.  If it was gonna be all-ticket id say they would be out by now.

thanks Chief
if I can get away from that confirmation in Virginia in time, I hope to get there.
If its as good as the last Cavan v Down game I saw in Breffni, then it will be well worth the tonge lashing from the wife for leaving the apres confirmation dinner !
:)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on May 09, 2007, 10:30:53 AM
sure the games not till 4 anyway unless the confirmation is mad late u will make it. 
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on May 09, 2007, 03:39:49 PM
I'm sure most of you lot have already seen this post on the hoganstand but just in case ye missed it, I thought I'd post it here. Made my day anyway.

Match a club with a car/vehickle

1. Cavan Gaels - BMW (No extras, standard 2.0, beiche coloured)Just about convinces you that its middle class
2. Mullahoran - John Deere 5003 Series (Brand New !)all torque
3. Ballinagh - Toyata Landcruiser (like Morris's). 5th gear never works well
4. Castlerahan - a Corvette (guy with mullet and moustache driving though)
5. Gowna - Volvo FH12 (big engine, slightly outdated). Everybody calls the truck "P"
6. Cuchulainns - Toyata Corrolla (bit flat, but goes well)
7. Crosserlough - VW Jetta (very reliable, but is found wanting in a real race)
8. Kingscourt- Ford Capris (good condition) - great car back in the day. This car's demise is attributed to the formation of a soccer club in the town.
9. Belturbet - Honda Civic (Great engine but the rest is dissappointing)
10. Denn - Ford Probe (lots of shouts, never amounted to much though)You can see this car parked outside Hairy Neds most evenings
11. Lacken - Some breed of a 4x4 with a winch, handy for pulling and dragging
12. Drumalee - The word "Drumalee" itself suggests a white Ford Escort, furry dice, spoiler, teddys .. u get the message.
14. Killygarry - New VW Golf (had a good reputation but things are going downhill). Has a nice garage to put it in all the same.
15. Drumlane - a souped up Ford Fiesta. Punching above its weight
16. Ballyhaise - Volvo estate (lots of room to work with. Needs Sat-Nav to get around the pitch
17. Ramor - Opel manta (see Kingscourt). Opel Mantas are very very hard on juice :1
18. Lavey - Some type of really classy teleporter
19. Knockbride - A Rover. Tried soo hard to be a high-end car (sounds good, but not taken seriously by the big boys)
20. Drumgoon - Ford Mondeo - Was going to take over the world at one stage, not impressive any more
21. Redhills - Seat Toledo - lacks substance, bit tinny. Some handy features though. A "good young car"
22. Drung - Toyata Celica with a HUGE Exahust - Emits alot of fumes
23. Cootehill - a Glasgow Celtic coloured car, doesnt matter what make. A Celtic coloured donkey will do.
24. Laragh - an orange ice-cream van. Tried to change the colour of the van to sky blue at one stage,as this was affecting its performance ;)
25. Shercock - a convertible skoda. Nothing to keep the rain off, like the pitch
26. Baileboro - Some sort of a Jaguar that some mechanic was doing up. He promised all his mates it was going to blow their minds - but its up on blocks now.
27. Ballymachugh - Ford 7610 4wd. Practical
28. Swadlinbar - Camoflauged bullet proof van.
29. Cavan Gaels (B) - a BMW car door ... doesnt matter as long as it LOOKS affluent. Perception is everything, apparently.
30. Kill - Opel Corsa with a sunroof. Needs more punch
31. Butlersbridge - Nissan Micra with a Mercedes badge (sponsered by the Black Horse)
32. Kildallon - Hillman Hunter, with knee bandages
33. Shannon Gaels - Ford T Model without the engine
34. Munterconnaught - A Pimped-Up school bus
35. Killeshandra - Fiat Punto, with alloys, exhaust and the works. A Ceili band in the back. Biker convoy tailing it
36. Templeport - Morris Minor. Complete with driver, wearing a driving hat at a jaunty angle.
37. Arva - A VW ..... mini van. A .. van .. that .. boxes ..you in the ribs ... when .. its tackling you .. and buys you a pint of Brandy in the pub afterwards and then slaps you really hard on the back.
38. Mullahoran (B)- A forklift. A very proud forklift with a white check shirt and a nice hair parting. Fuelled on bottles of Bud
39. Maghera - AC Milan coloured tractor lawnmower.
40. Corlough - a Motorized Pram
41. Mountnugent - a Wheelbarrow. Not a great wheelbarrow

From Hoganstand, by JCB Man

:D :D :D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on May 09, 2007, 05:18:43 PM
Quote from: Homer on May 09, 2007, 03:39:49 PM
I'm sure most of you lot have already seen this post on the hoganstand but just in case ye missed it, I thought I'd post it here. Made my day anyway.

Match a club with a car/vehickle

1. Cavan Gaels - BMW (No extras, standard 2.0, beiche coloured)Just about convinces you that its middle class
2. Mullahoran - John Deere 5003 Series (Brand New !)all torque

5. Gowna - Volvo FH12 (big engine, slightly outdated). Everybody calls the truck "P"
6. Cuchulainns - Toyata Corrolla (bit flat, but goes well)
7. Crosserlough - VW Jetta (very reliable, but is found wanting in a real race)
8. Kingscourt- Ford Capris (good condition) - great car back in the day. This car's demise is attributed to the formation of a soccer club in the town.

16. Ballyhaise - Volvo estate (lots of room to work with. Needs Sat-Nav to get around the pitch

17. Ramor - Opel manta (see Kingscourt). Opel Mantas are very very hard on juice :1

:D

Best of all though:

11. Lacken - Some breed of a 4x4 with a winch, handy for pulling and dragging  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on May 10, 2007, 07:42:10 PM
Needs Sat Nav to get around the pitch  :D

That post is hilarious Homer

i see the team well ive seen two teams named, in the other thread,
Gunner at cornerback makes sense,Hes the pefect man to mark Coulter,Quick,Strong and outstanding in the air.
Chesty at full back though,i have my doubts.

But what makes me happy about this is,it shows Grimley has the tactical knowledge that has been missing from our team managements of the past in that he will actually make changes when necessary.


Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: CC1 on May 11, 2007, 08:19:24 AM
Nice to hear that we're a Skoda, an ever improving car. Too true about the convertable bit though...  :-[
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on May 11, 2007, 09:49:48 AM
CC1 seeing as you're a shercock man
Is Michael O Reily starting at Midfield for the minors?
Seen him play Under 21 last year and was very impressed.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on May 11, 2007, 09:52:44 AM
Cavan minor team v Down – A. O'Meara; R. Farrelly, R. Dunne, O. Minagh; D. Graham, T. Reilly, J. McEvoy; Barry Watters capt., J. McEnroe; Niall Smith, D. McKiernan, A. Cole; M. Cunningham, C. Smith, Martin Dunne
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on May 11, 2007, 10:09:44 AM
Lethal Full Forward Line,

Enough ball and they will destroy any Full back line at this level.
Midfield id have my worries though.
Barry Waters is a brilliant footballer, but a midfielder? im not sure hes big enough.
J McEnroe better be an absolute Giant.
Rory Dunne at Full back, Brick i always thought he was a mf or a forward.
good half back line aswell.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on May 11, 2007, 11:44:41 AM
Great, we should lead by 4 going into last 5  mins and lose by a point in injury time.

Me of little faith. :(
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on May 11, 2007, 12:32:26 PM
Lethal Full Forward Line,

Enough ball and they will destroy any Full back line at this level.



Oh christ no, I knew it was too good to last...........................................................

In fairness to Ballyhaise Man he has managed to express reservations about midfield so we have not yet progressed to the annual idiocy of the best ever Minor Team with the Captain practicing his as Gaeilge for September assuming that Ulster is a piece of piss as usual. Again, here's hoping
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on May 11, 2007, 12:37:21 PM
Anglo

The Full Forward line is outstanding,
But there are aspects of that team id be seriously worried about.
Midfield for one,
Watters is a half forward or half back not a midfielder. im suprised Michael O Reily of Shercock isnt playing at midfield,the guy is a class act in my opinion.
i Dont expect this team to beat Down.

Some players on there i know little about.
i know Graham and Reily in Half Back line are good.
No Doubt in keeping with Cavans legacy,the team will be dwarfed by their Down counterparts throughout the field.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on May 11, 2007, 12:47:21 PM
Watters played midfield and Centre half forward on the county vocationals team.  He is at his best when he runs at players and it will be interesting to see how he gets on under kickouts.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on May 11, 2007, 01:05:04 PM
C4ever

id be a traditionalist in that id always prefer at least one and normaly two 6'2 6'3 ballwinner/s at centrefield at minor level.
we have that in Michael Reily and hes not just a statue either,the guy can play.
I rate Watters very very highly.

a Daniel Graham,Tomas Reily and Barry Watters half back line would be awesome with Watters skills of carrying the ball in evident.
who is the manager anyway Jody Clarke?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on May 11, 2007, 03:57:05 PM
yeah i think it is i wonder will he make a fool of himself again this year by crying on tv.    I see the messge board on the Senior game has turned into a slagging match between armagh and down posters  :-X
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on May 12, 2007, 03:01:52 PM
All that remains to be said is good luck to the Cavan Senior and Minor Squads. It would be a great boost to the county to get 2 wins on Sunday. See ye there lads.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: The Bottom Brick on May 12, 2007, 08:27:45 PM
Hear hear the slasher...

Anyone hear anything about Pierson and Forde???
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: The Real Laoislad on May 12, 2007, 08:32:59 PM
Sorry to hijack yer thread lads but i need to ask a question

I have got a offer of some work in Kingscourt(im a electrical contractor) Im working out of Lucan in Dublin,is it a good spin to get to Kingscourt would it be worth driving up that far for a day or twos work?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: CC1 on May 12, 2007, 10:22:52 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on May 11, 2007, 09:49:48 AM
CC1 seeing as you're a shercock man
Is Michael O Reily starting at Midfield for the minors?
Seen him play Under 21 last year and was very impressed.
Sorry, bit late replying to your post Ballyhaise man. Michael is a very very good player, he's very dedicated and has it all (speed, height, strength, skill, passing ability) apart from shooting alot of the time. If you were to ask me what the best part to his game is, then you would have to say his spring and catch. He has an absolutely phenominal leap on him, he's 6'2 or 3 and I would say he could nearly add an extra foot onto that with his leap.

I'm very surprised that Jody left him out of the 15, but I don't know enough about the other players to make a judgement on them. If they are better players than Reilly, then we're in for a treat I'm sure! He impressed alot of people last year senior and u21 and was arguably one of our best players along with Sean Magee and Paddy McPhillips. He scored three points from midfield against Knockbride this year, which isn't bad at all. Either way, I reckon we'll see him at some stage tomorrow afternoon.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: CC1 on May 13, 2007, 12:26:50 AM
Quote from: The Real Laoislad on May 12, 2007, 08:32:59 PM
Sorry to hijack yer thread lads but i need to ask a question

I have got a offer of some work in Kingscourt(im a electrical contractor) Im working out of Lucan in Dublin,is it a good spin to get to Kingscourt would it be worth driving up that far for a day or twos work?
It would take you 50 minutes to get to Kingscourt from the N3/M50 roundabout on a good day. Normally doesn't take much longer than that...
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: gortnaleck on May 13, 2007, 02:05:03 AM
Is Michael Reilly a son of Packy's
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on May 13, 2007, 11:15:12 PM
Well i dont know what to make of that performance,had some good aspects and some bad ones.
anyway my ratings

1.James Reily,saved us yet again,the man is a saint,kickouts very good as usual. 8

2.Martin Cahill, had a hard time marking Danny Hughes,but stuck to his task well and eventually came out on top. 7

3.Eamon Reily,done ok,but Packie Downey did get on alot of ball. 6

4.Paul Brady,Roasted by Gunner early on,improved when moved out to the half back line,Not vintage gunner by any means,but done ok. 6

5.Michael Hannon,switched into mark Coulter early on,in my opinion done a good job on him,Isolated too much on the MayoBridge man,(bad tactics by Cavan) but done aswell on him one on one as anyone could. 7

6.Anthony Forde,Very underpar performance,wasnt at the races today. 6

7.Ronan Flanagan,Very good,got on the ball well,picked up breaks,foot passing accurate,very good in possession 8.

8.Dermot McCabe,A Collosus at Centre Field,everything went through him.Fielded good ball,kick passing was mostly exquisite and some great long range frees. 8

9.Lorcan Mulvey,Looked overweight,Completely defeated at Centre Field by Dan Gordon,didnt have the legs to stay with him.Wont be playing the next day. 5

10.Ray Cullivan,very disappointed in Culli,nothing went right for him today at all. 6

11.Mark McKeever,Unusually sloppy,hasnt been the attacking presence we've come to expect this year yet,needs to contribute more scores like he done other years,but worked hard. 6

12.Larry Reily,started brilliantly,but fizzled out,then reappeared when the game was on the line,and ran at the heart of the Down Defence,this game will bring his fitness on alot aswell. 7

13.Seanie Johnson,scored one out of 4 shots,movement was good,but didnt always get the ball when open,unlucky to be taken off as he got the better of his marker. 7

14.Gerard Pierson,scored 3 points but missed 5 or 6 shots aswell,Movement very good,Gave Rooney? his opposition player a torrid time with his movement.If he can get more accurate,he will be a match winner next week,again i questioned him being taken off. 7

15.Jason Reily, uncharacteristically Missed two goal chances,Movement was good though.missed a few scorable chances as well. 7

subs,
Michael Lyng ,done very well when came on,should start the next day. 7

Sean Brady,kicked a super point and showed well for ball,should start the next day. 7

Nicholas Walsh,won a few important balls in the last few minutes to set up attacks,should start the next day at centrefield in place of Mulvey.7

Jonathon Crowe,done well for the goal,i think his physical presence would be very helpful in the half back line the next day.7

Cian Mackey,done ok,looked lively but done some stupid things like kicking the ball straight up in the air. 6

In my opinion the first 4 subs named should be starting the next day,
we need to adopt serious defensive tactics to stop the leaking of goals.
the naming of Forde as a forward then dropping him back in front of Coulter is one that should be looked into.
i questioned some of the substitutions aswell.
What was with Mulveys Physique? christ has the man trained in the last month?i was expecting big things from him today,but he was just too heavy and immobile.



As for the minors
Desperate performance by a woeful team

Oisin Minagh outstanding,
Rory Dunne done well,but hes not a full back,he got skinned a couple of times because hes not a natural defender,But other than that i thought he was good.

the small number 2 from Lurgan was roasted.

Thomas Reily done well i thought,Daniel Graham was ok

Very disappointed in Barry Watters.
James McEnroe was non existant

Adrian Cole tried hard and was probably our best player
disappointed in Martin Dunne and McKiernan

Conor Smith done well
Mark Cunningham scored some great points and is a lovely footballer,
But hes no sharpshooter im afraid
Eugene Keating looks a class act.
Michael O Reily of shercock should have been on much earlier
David Givney the number 20 wasted a glorious goal chance near the end.
Worst Minor team in 5 years.
Diabolical stuff.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: gortnaleck on May 15, 2007, 04:12:43 AM
I don't see the doom and gloom after Sunday's performance.I have to add that I only saw it on Setanta.Midfield was on top throughout and we got the majority of the breaks there as well. The forwards won nearly all the ball that was played in early to them.They took too many shots from bad positions but at least they took it upon themselves to shoot and they will not be as unlucky the next day.I didn't think the Down goalie made as big of a mistake as everyone seems to think for the last goal,but you probably saw more replays than I did.The defence did not play with enough confidence and so always let the Down player out in front to get the ball and then they would try and contain the damage.This never works unless the other team can't score at all. It is not that they are bad players but someone needs to step up and say  "I'll go out on Sunday and get shoulder to shoulder with Coulter and make sure he does not get as easy a time as he did on Sunday" he does not even have to get the ball himself just keep it away from him and frustrate him as much as he can.The Down forwards were given time on Sunday to collect the ball and then turn and pick up a head of steam before they even met a defender.As I say we have as good a footballers it's just a matter of confidence or belief.I'm just pissed we won't get to see it out here and I'll have to watch Tyrone and Fermanagh
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: C-na-G on May 15, 2007, 10:34:22 PM
What was the idea of bringing on Mackey on Sunday? The lad was a good minor but doesnt cut it at this level. He disrupted what was a reasonably successful full forward line. At one stage Mc Cabe had a free at about 60 Yards. Jason and Pierson made a run to one corner and Mackey just followed them disrupting their space and leaving acres the other side of the field where he should have been.

I know he won one crucial free but he has no ability to win ball either and any ball he did get beside the aforementioned he wasted.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on May 16, 2007, 04:02:57 PM
Mackey is living on his reputation as a minor which was a long time ago.  Is there any hope for us atall if grimley is as hot as people say he should come up with a plan to stop the Down half-backs waltzing up the field and opening up our defence.  Someone that might track back with them would be a start.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: The Bottom Brick on May 16, 2007, 05:01:04 PM
Happened to say to someone beside me that Mackey has a habit of putting the head down, getting bottled up and kicking the ball straight up in the air.

30 seconds later and he did one of his best ever, the ball must have gone 50 yards up and landed about five yards away from him!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on May 17, 2007, 04:53:55 PM
Cavan minor team-manager Jody Clarke has stepped down from the position after Cavan's defeat by Down in the Ulster MFC preliminary round on Sunday, 13th of May.

The Shercock clubman handed in his resignation on Monday last, 24 hours after his side went under to the Mourne side on a scoreline of 1-10 to 2-5 in Kingspan/Breffni Park, Cavan.

Clarke resignation comes after two years at the helm of the county minor side. Last season he guided the Cavan side to a preliminary round win over Down – the reigning All-Ireland champions in Casement Park – but his side were defeated by eventual Ulster minor champions, Donegal in the next round at Brewster Park, Enniskillen after going into the game with high hopes of success.

Clarke said that he intended to bow out this season irrespective of how far Cavan progressed in the championship.

"We put a tremendous effort in preparing the team this season and I must put on record the commitment and dedication not alone of the squad of players, but also my management and back-up team. We had high hopes of doing well this season, but it just wasn't to be,'' added Clarke.

The former Shercock star forward made no excuses for their defeat last Sunday against Down. "We literally kicked ourselves out of the game – had 17 wides over the duration of the match – and that in itself tells its own story.''

Interestingly, Cavan lost only two competitive games all season – in league and championship – and both by Down in Kingspan-Breffni Park. "You could say that Down had the 'edge on us' although in both games we had enough chances and play to win the games''.

Jody said despite the disappointment result last Sunday, he really enjoyed his stay as manager of the county minor side. "I met many sincere football people during my time in charge, and was very appreciative of the support I got not alone from my own family and club, but also the Cavan Youth Board.

"Hopefully, I have contributed something positive to the development of Cavan football in the future, and I take this opportunity to wish the players under my guidance over the past two seasons at minor level every success in their football careers in the future.

"I believe despite that defeat by Down on Sunday last there is a lot of potential in the present minor squad. Hopefully, they will continue to work at their game and always have a positive attitude. These young players are the future of Cavan football, and they should be given every encouragement in the future,'' he concluded.


Read something i actually agreed with on Hoganstand just there,I think Mickie Graham should get the job for next year.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on May 17, 2007, 05:03:54 PM
Cavan minor football is in the grip of a psychological paralysis if you ask me. I'm no Freud now, but that's my tuppence worth.

Time and time again we're beaten between for the lack of what's between our two ears and not what's on the field in pound for pound playing terms. In the last five years alone I'd say we've been beaten by either an inferior or at worst equal team every time, getting caught late, lack of composure in front of the posts when the fat is in the fire, easy chances missed, mistakes made. And then we bemoan 'bad luck'. What a f**king cop out that is.

It needs a hugely respected figure to come in and lift the whole thing out of the morass it's in right now, otherwise we'll always struggle and will rely on alot of luck. The last two managers, with respect, wouldn't have had a hell of alot of gravitas in the dressing room, it was a case of 'more of the same' and the results followed suit.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on May 17, 2007, 10:47:09 PM
f**k it Maniac I think you may have some fair points there. Now there was a bit of material to work on this year based on Virginia Vocational, the fact the Bailieborough gave them a closer run than anybody else in winning their All Ireland. The Cavan Gaels side that contested the Ulster Club final tournament last Xmas was supposed to be really good and gave a few lads to the side, so where did it go wrong.

Bringing on young Keating, who we were told had seriously busted his ankle in the Vocational Schools final of course gives a depressing sense of Deja vu (think John Tierney anybody). Whatever loss he would have been to the county team, you would imagine he would have been a much bigger loss to his school. He got injured early on in the final, instead of bottling it Virginia regrouped and won the thing well.

So there we have it, the material was there to make some sort of impression, preparation would appear to have failed.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: The Bottom Brick on May 17, 2007, 11:21:54 PM
Good points Anglo, completely agree

On the Keating issue, i was told by one of the players a few days before hand that he would definitely be coming on, and judging by his movement he was fine. Have to give the management credit here, they could have started the lad (should have in hindsight) but didnt chance it.

They had psychologists in and all, can't figure it out. You rightly mention the Virginia and Gaels - my theory:

Virginia only really had two SUPERB players this year, one was Keating and the other Conor Smith who had a stinker v Down. The rest of the Virginia crew were solid, committed types, gutsy and honest but not classy if you know what i mean

The Gaels had a couple of stars as well (M Dunne and D graham) and it appears they were both over hyped in the extreme. Niall Murray is a brilliant talent but he missed out injured, althought the lad that came in (Minagh) did a great job. Their other good players would be overage by now...
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on May 18, 2007, 09:50:11 AM
From todays Indo, always new mcCabe was the "real" Cavan manager
Taking the 'credit' for Cavan


     Go  Friday May 18 2007


GREAT was the shock among Cavan supporters on Monday morning when they were informed that Donal Keogan had been replaced as manager of the county team.


Not content with producing a man-of-the-match performance in their drawn game against Down, veteran midfielder Dermot McCabe apparently staged a sensational overnight coup to overthrow Keoghan after the Breffni Park battle.

Well, that's according to one national newspaper anyway, whose front-page report credited the following quote "In years gone by we conceded two early goals and were five or 10 points down at half-time and lost by a big margin. So it is tremendous to come back from that and still be in the game" to the Cavan manager, one Dermot McCabe. Oops.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on May 18, 2007, 04:47:35 PM
Quote from: The Bottom Brick on May 17, 2007, 11:21:54 PM
They had psychologists in and all, can't figure it out...

Hold the front page, Cavan minors are now confounding even best medical and psychological practice!

Will it ever bloody end?

10 years ago, when you consider the set up in each county, the fact we'd just won an Ulster senior, finances available especially etc. if you'd been asked to pick the more likely winner of a minor All-Ireland in the next decade, Cavan or Roscommon, who in their right mind wouldn't have said Cavan? It's enough to give you a pain in your face.

I'm so sick to the back teeth of our minor and U21 flops I get physically angry and want to kick defenceless animals.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on May 21, 2007, 12:03:46 PM
Quote from: CC1 on May 21, 2007, 11:26:42 AM
I was speaking to Jody about it and he said that they were all superb in training, kicking over good scores and not being wasteful. He said it was all just on the day. I suppose the pressure just got to a few of their heads.

Yep, and therein lies the problem. This sort of thing seems to happen to Cavan minor teams year after year and then we shrug our shoulders and go 'bad luck' or as you say acceptingly enough above, 'pressure got to them'. This just isn't good enough any more. Other sides and six-county ones in particular are generally much more confident and better prepared upstairs than the jittery chokers we produce, who undoubtedly always have talent to go further but beat themselves year on year. This isn't an accident. We're overlooking something in preparation that would help us break the cycle, there's something we're not doing right.

I know the minors are hyped every year too which doesn't help but we're not such a bad judge of footballers to perenially seduce ourselves into thinking that 15 suspect donkeys are world beaters every year - there has to be some substabnce to the hype, i.e. they're at the vert least quite decent teams if still some way short of the hype. So why are they still floundering so miserably every year?

For the record, Down managed to score 2-1 against Monaghan in the QF at Crossmaglen last night. Monaghan won 1-6 to 2-1. Puts it all in perspective a bit.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on May 21, 2007, 12:44:48 PM
Heres a thought,
we have Under 14
Under 15
Under 16 and
Under 17 Development squads, all leading up to Minor level
Each team with different coaches every year they move up.
I think it would be better if one coaching team took a team at Under 14 all the way up to Under 17/Minor.
at least bring a bit of consistency in Training etc.I could be clutching at straws here though.


Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Blue06 on May 21, 2007, 01:57:59 PM
Does anyone know what the plans would be now re the qualifiers? 7 weeks away.

Will there be any club championship played?

Does the county training stop for a few weeks to let the players back to the clubs?





Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on May 21, 2007, 02:37:27 PM
There's no reason why two rounds of the senior championship shouldn't be played between now and the qualifiers but we don't have a good track record with these things.

There was only league matches played between league semi defeat to Roscommon and SFC match v Down I think. It's June, it's time to get the club championships underway at home. There's been alot in national media earlier this year about counties leaving their clubs idle to faciliate their county sides so let's see has the message filtered through to the head honchos in Cavan. I doubt it somehow but there's no reason why two rounds of the championships and one round of the senior league can't be played off now, that's three weekends out of six or seven available and would leave a fallow weekend ahead of the qualifiers to boot for resting up.

It'd keep the majority of club players happy and keep the county players sharp as well, we'd just have to live with whatever injuries if any accrue and get on with it.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on May 21, 2007, 02:40:33 PM
Lads theres going to be no club Championship until July  ::) because of the wisdom of the county board.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on May 21, 2007, 03:45:31 PM
Stupidity. By 7th July Cavan county team will have played three games in what, about 11 weeks? Madness that no SFC will have been played before then.

btw, qualifiers are set up to be run off on 7th, 14th and 21st of July...not getting the cart before the horse but if we win our first and second round game surely they'll mothball the championship again? Disgraceful way to treat the club players and it's only a matter of time before it blows up in their faces. county boards still think the only sporting choice open to young fellas is the GAA - maybe it was 20 years ago but not any more.

But sure a bit of foresight is too much to expect.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on May 21, 2007, 04:02:06 PM
yeah it's not right, it's not as if the county team are any good.  A few club games might actually improve them a bit.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on May 21, 2007, 04:06:20 PM
3 well 4 (but one is injured) members of our panel are going to the US in June,to play ball in Boston for the whole summer.
Id have my doubts if some of them would have went if the Championships were in full swing in May and June,Like they are in places like Kerry,Derry,Meath etc.
People nowadays are not going to wait around the entire Summer just to play a few games in Late July, and i cant blame them.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on May 21, 2007, 04:11:04 PM
Who's heading off?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on May 21, 2007, 04:16:27 PM
Sean McCormack would be main one you would know of C4ever,and will be a huge miss.

others are two members of our fairly good reserve team.

Fergal McGoldrick and
Paul Prior.

Best of luck to them,Might aswell enjoy themselves when they are in college and can afford to go away.
im sure we arent the only ones who will be hit by the summer trips to US/Oz/UK etc.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on May 21, 2007, 04:22:59 PM
Well best of luck to them, it's not good for your club but the way things are going they could be back for quater-finals of championship.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: CC1 on May 21, 2007, 05:05:02 PM
Surely the county board have to reconsider the up coming fixtures and try to accomodate some championship fixtures between now and the qualifiers. Because if they don't, it would be an absolute joke. What are we supposed to do between now and then? Twiddle our thumbs?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on May 21, 2007, 08:21:15 PM
CC1
Then you would have clubs complaining about changing the fixture list,guys missing games because of holidays,booked around the original schedule
Its a complete balls up.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on May 22, 2007, 09:55:10 AM
Good to see the Cavan players out celebrating yesterday management and all , i wonder what grimley thinks of that.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on May 22, 2007, 11:27:58 AM
I wouldn't begrudge them a few pints to be honest, it's seven weeks to the next game and I'm sure they've been hard at it for the last few months.

As long as they weren't out slapping themselves on the back for 'only' losing by four points and securing a replay the first day...now that would be worrying.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on May 22, 2007, 12:52:31 PM
It was more than a few and i know the next game is ages away but if Armagh are bet next sunday will Joe Kernan bring all the lads out drinking monday?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: shotstopper1 on May 22, 2007, 03:08:46 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on May 21, 2007, 04:06:20 PM
3 well 4 (but one is injured) members of our panel are going to the US in June,to play ball in Boston for the whole summer.

I presume this would be to play with the Wolfe Tones club,who are currently managed by a former legendary haiseman, would this be right?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on May 22, 2007, 03:26:16 PM
Yep the Wolfe Tones club ,i think they are managed by well known Ballyhaise Native Gerry Prior this year.
Legendary Haiseman,Steve Duggan you're thinking of perhaps? not sure if hes involved.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on May 22, 2007, 10:43:39 PM
I wouldn't begrudge them a few pints to be honest, it's seven weeks to the next game and I'm sure they've been hard at it for the last few months.

Was that a slightly Freudian slip Maniac? The real quality of the management team and this group of players will be discovered when we line up for the first game in the qualifiers so lets keep our powder reasonably dry until then. Members of the management team would be giving plenty of hostages to fortune if they are getting into serious socialising with players if that is what it is, particularly given the state of unfitness of some of the blokes that started in the first game. Did McHugh have much of a habit of actively socialising with players as in having a few pints?

If we win a few in the qualifiers all will be sweet, otherwise the bitching will start.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on May 23, 2007, 09:51:20 AM
Quote from: anglocelt39 on May 22, 2007, 10:43:39 PM
Was that a slightly Freudian slip Maniac?

;D

McHugh knew when to let lads off the leash at the same time though and if you're going to do it now is the time. My point is that hopefully the lads were told by management to go and have a few drinks seeing as there's effectively two months to go to the next game, as opposed to continuing the monastic existence whereupon they'd probably sneak off and have a few regardless and possibly over do it, and more than once. As long as management have a handle on it I wouldn't begrudge them provided things settle down again very quickly and they get focused on what could potentialy be a very sticky qualifier match against decent oppostion.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on May 25, 2007, 08:33:03 AM
Well lads this thread has gone dead last few days.   :-[
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on May 25, 2007, 09:05:16 AM
Personally, I am depressed by the last two matches. I think we are worse than I thought we were, perhaps I was over optomistic about our overall standing in the GAA world. We were beaten well in the end by an aveage Down team (in both games if we are honest). There are a lot of big guns in the back door this yr with Div 4 teams out of the running so chances are we will get decent opposition. I can't see us going too far in the backdoor, maybe one game if we get a good home draw.

We still have the same problems we had through the league.

- No Full Back
- No Ctr Back (or No gaynor)
- One midfielder who can't run with no support
- No plan B at FF (ie. a big target man)

Add to that the following new problems...

- A significant drop in work ethic, especially in the forwards
- The dramatic slump in form of Pierson and Mckeever.
- Slow and poor decision making on the line to turn the matches.

Saying that one win in the Qualifiers could get some momentum into the team.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on May 25, 2007, 09:10:40 AM
Yeah depressing is the word alright.  What ur saying myles is that there is nothing up the middle of the pitch which should be the strongest line (bar mc cabe who has stopped things being more embarrsing) .   
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on May 25, 2007, 10:06:57 AM
Myles, you might add to the litany the fact that we are still depedning on some of the 97 lads who, if the truth be known, are probably at least a year past their date (Jason and Larry). The fact that we are still depending on McCabe at midfield is an absolutely major worry as well. In the middle of all this Gaynor remains banished to the wastelands. Some lads will drop off the panel over the next seven weeks I would be pretty sure so I expect the selectors will be out watching club games with the object of bringing in some backup. If you were being very mean spirited you would say that fitness should not be a major factor since some guys who lined out the first day were clearly not fit for 70 minutes of championship football, as for disciplinary records-well if you want to be picky take a look at the half back line that started last Sunday and tell me something they share in common.

Anyway-positives-Meath, Waterford and Wickla still standing after last Sunday so the division 2b setup may not have been so bad. The management team have tried some new players to bring a bit of size to things (Crowe, Cunningham, Thomas, Mulvey etc.) and have been a bit un-lucky with un-timely injuries/suspensions to some of those lads. If we can win one game in the qualifiers and not get hockeyed next time out I won't be too un-happy.

On a slightly positive longer term note look at the Cavan Echo on-line, our under 16's are finally being pulled out of Manning Cup and Gerry Reilly Tournaments to go and compete with the Nordies. Long overdue but good to see as far as I am concerned.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on May 25, 2007, 12:13:25 PM
You could get depressed alright but funnily enough I don't feel too bad overall. I'm happy we've a bit of battling in the side now and firmly believe if Lyng had stayed on the field we would have beaten Down. After that, who knows what might have been but there's little point speculating. I think we'll get better under Grimley.

Minor collapse is the most depressing thing.

Promotion, beat Down and run in the qualifiers was all we wanted at start of the year and although slightly modified now obviously, I think we're still on course a for a reasonable year considering where we were starting out from. We have to realise that we're a medium-sized county population wise with virtually no relevant acheivements at underage. It can get better but we'll have to be patient and have faith that grimley over time can effect real change.

The worrying thing is of course that when Dermot does eventually finish up along with the rest of the '97 fold, will we have enough waiting to come in and replace them? IMO, Jason and Larry should be at most subs next year (this year too probably) if that at all so again this summer we're looking to draft another 4 potential first teamers. The problem positions simply have to be addressed in summer and then we simply have to hold on in Division 2 to go into championship 2008 with some greater degree of solidity and a bit of hope of progressing.

We still have good or likely to improve performers at goalkeeper, Hannon, Gunner, Flanagan, Fannin, Sean Brady, Jelly, Pierson, but the problem positions are just that...problems.

I don't see enough club football to have anuy idea who we could draft in either for qualifiers or ahead of next campaign?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Hollow Man on May 25, 2007, 12:43:48 PM
QuoteWe still have good or likely to improve performers at goalkeeper, Hannon, Gunner, Flanagan, Fannin, Sean Brady, Jelly, Pierson

I agree. It doesn't say much for the management though that of our seven "best" outfield players listed, three didn't start the replay, and one was hauled off after 20 minutes.

I think you're forgetting Cullivan from that list, and don't forget McKeever is still briliiant, just in bad form. Mickey Lyng is another - unbelievable talent who will definitely get back to his best when he gets more football under his belt.

From club football, it's hard to know really. Finbar Reilly for the frees?!

Cian McDermott is 21/22, midfield for Ballinagh, twice as good as Thomas in my opinion...
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on May 25, 2007, 01:03:01 PM
Yep those are of course other names to include although I think Cullivan needs more time to grow into a senior role, I think he's been pushed too far already and depended on way too early in his career.

Shame that none on the list are outstanding candidates for the 'problem' and key positions, except for Lyng at no.11 we struggle to fill 3, 6, 9, 14. Hopefully the summer will throw up a few new faces, we desperately need them.

Finbar Reilly had a few good games for Cavan alright but wasn't a flawless free taker. Probably better than what we have there at the moment though, although curiously for a Lacken man, Reilly seemed to lack a bit of guts in the 50/50 tackles for me. Lots of speed though, should be in the squad but he did himself no favours spitting the dummy last year, the hare-brained selection policy of the previous manager notwithstanding.

We should still be positive. We're only a few months and one championship tie into what will hopefully be a planned, considered and ultimately successful rebuilding programme. Time to stop thinking about winning anything in short term and build for championship 2009 as a target IMHO.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Hollow Man on May 25, 2007, 03:03:35 PM
Quotealthough curiously for a Lacken man, Reilly seemed to lack a bit of guts in the 50/50 tackles for me

Whoa, whoa, whoa - you're dead wrong here. Poser he may be, but he's never pulled out of a tackle when i've seen him. Saw him in a few league games for Lacken and he's a hardy bit of stuff.

I agree by the way that he burnt his bridges - just threw it out there for a response!

If you were picking a couple who "pull out" on the Cavan panel, a couple more names would come to mind, such as our import from Fermanagh and the Drung duo (this may not be popular but James is a bit yellow, gets away with it but he'll be caught I fear).

Paul Brady, Sean Brady, Larry, McCabe, Flanagan would be the hardiest in my opinion.Jason went into a 40-60 against Down and BURST a fella fairly!

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on May 25, 2007, 03:11:22 PM
right so we get rid of miller and who exactly is going to go into goals?

i suppose ud put finbar reilly in he mightn't b a  goal keeper but he's not yellow
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Hollow Man on May 25, 2007, 03:18:46 PM
I wouldn't get rid of him, he's a brilliant shot stopper, magnificent under a high ball and outstanding kickout.

However, if there's a 50/50 ball bouncing between him and a forward he tends to hang on his line too long or take "short steps". You never see him cleaning "man, ball and all" - in the way that hearty, McVeigh etc can -  do you?

Nothing personal whatsoever, this is just something I've noticed. As far back as 2004 against Mayo he pulled out of a ball and I think it was Forde or someone who managed to get abck and clear off the line, which is something that happens an awful lot.

Still, the other aspects of his game are good enough to make him outstanding.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on May 25, 2007, 03:32:14 PM
i actullay read ur orignial post wrong and would agree with all u say  :P
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Davitt Man on May 25, 2007, 04:27:24 PM
Whats happened kingscourt this year, 1 win and 4 defeats? Bad form so far?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on May 25, 2007, 04:41:46 PM
Quote from: Hollow Man on May 25, 2007, 03:03:35 PM
Quotealthough curiously for a Lacken man, Reilly seemed to lack a bit of guts in the 50/50 tackles for me

Whoa, whoa, whoa - you're dead wrong here. Poser he may be, but he's never pulled out of a tackle when i've seen him. Saw him in a few league games for Lacken and he's a hardy bit of stuff.

Yeah, but then again even Ronan Carolan used to throw his weight about for Cuchulainns and then be meek as a lamb with the county. I clearly recall Reilly slowing the pace when going into a few 50/50s when playing for Cavan in recent years, and on one occasion, Coleman shouting him out and clenching his fist and telling him to quit the pussy-footing about.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Hollow Man on May 25, 2007, 05:51:46 PM
Fair enough, I'll take your word for it. Didn't ever notice it myself in Reilly, but I can well imagine Coleman wouldnt be long spotting it if one of the Cavan players pulled out...
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Hollow Man on May 25, 2007, 05:55:05 PM
Speaking of Cavan Echo, here's an interesting "The Bottom Line" column this week

http://www.cavanecho.com/pdf/pages/cav028.pdf
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on May 25, 2007, 06:40:54 PM
Davitt Man

Kingscourt have been without a fair few key men for most of the games,

forwards especially

Joe McMahon
Darragh Gunne
Alan Clarke to name a few.
There 3 best forwards.

some players in my opinion who the management should be looking at,over the next few weeks with a few of seeing if they would add to the squad

Thomas Wakely(Kingscourt)
Colm Sheridan (Lacken)
Declan Gaffney(Crosserlough)
Declan McCabe (Crosserlough)
Colm Hannon(Drumgoon)
James Kiernan(Ballymachugh)
Enda Mulvey(Castlerahan)
Paddy Gumley(Redhills)
Peter Monaghan(Ramor Utd)
Robbie Prior(Swanlinbar)-dont know if hed be interested though
Damien McInerney,Cian McDermott,Adrian maguire(Ballinagh)

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Blue06 on May 25, 2007, 10:17:18 PM
BH Man.  Adrian Maguire Ballinagh is about 34/35 years of age.   Its the Masters team he'd be looking at.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on May 26, 2007, 02:03:47 PM
Colm Hannon...he was on the squad before and seemed reasonable enough if I recall. Did he not disappear due to college committments or could he just not cut the mustard?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on May 26, 2007, 02:08:58 PM
disappeared to America Maniac,
He could definetely cut the mustard alright,Hes a very good player,one of the few who looked promising under Mattie Kerrigan.and at 6'1 and good under the high ball could have been a possibility at Full Back.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on May 26, 2007, 03:23:50 PM
Wasn't Colm Hannon back playing with Drumgoon lately? And how about that link the Cavan Echo, semi-critical analysis from a newspaper source within the county. Whatever next? Long overdue.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on May 26, 2007, 04:11:16 PM
Indeed ac
The Echo is a breath of fresh air to the GAA scene in the county.
Especially like the team of the week part,probably because yours truely has been named on it once.  ;)
anyway,i wish you lads a good weekend,
Have a game against Finbar Reily,Trevor Crowe and co at 6 this evening in Ballyhaise.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on May 27, 2007, 09:37:24 AM
It's more to do with a difference in attitude rather than resources I'd say. Fair play, I think the Echo is great for the local scene.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on May 27, 2007, 11:02:07 AM
Lacken won Division One and Four games against us last night,Other than that,dont want to talk about it    :-[
dont know how any other games went.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: CC1 on May 28, 2007, 09:08:45 AM
We played Redhills at the weekend there. I have to say they have a very impressive team, especially the young corner forwards. Some of their players may be a bit light, but they certainly have a very good team and will be real contenders for the intermediate title.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on May 28, 2007, 01:09:53 PM
CC1
i know Redhills are going well,but i think the intermediate is Ballinaghs this year.

id have expected ourselves to be in the running,But things arent going according to plan at the moment.
Perhaps Drumlane and Drumgoon will also be in the running.

Heard there was a punch up in the Gaels/Mullahoran game yet again,they have been at it for the past 3 years in league games.  ;D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on May 29, 2007, 08:11:40 AM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on May 28, 2007, 01:09:53 PM
CC1
i know Redhills are going well,but i think the intermediate is Ballinaghs this year.


On paper they would be expected to win but we all know what happens them, are Drumgoon intermediate or senior this year?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on May 29, 2007, 11:46:01 AM
Drumgoon have been relegated to intermediate after their disasterous year last year.
They will give it a right go aswell.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on May 29, 2007, 03:48:20 PM
i know theres a fair few exiles down the country on here,so heres the league tables.

TPS Ltd. A.C.F.L. Division 1

Team P. W. L. D. Points
Castlerahan 6 4 1 1 9
Cavan Gaels 5 4 0 1 9
Crosserlough 5 4 0 1 9
Ballinagh 5 3 1 1 7
Gowna 5 3 1 1 7
Denn 5 3 2 0 6
Cuchullains 6 3 3 0 6
Belturbet 6 2 4 0 4
Drumalee 5 2 3 0 4
Lacken 5 2 3 0 4
Mullahoran 6 2 4 0 4
Ballyhaise 6 1 4 1 3
Drumlane 5 1 4 0 2
Kingscourt 6 1 5 0 2

Cathal Brady Audi A.C.F.L. Division 2

Team P. W. L. D. Points
Drumgoon 6 5 1 0 10
Redhills 5 5 0 0 10
Knockbride 5 3 0 2 8
Ramor United 6 3 1 2 8
Drung 6 3 2 1 7
Cootehill 6 3 3 0 6
Lavey 5 3 2 0 6
Shercock 6 2 2 2 6
Killinkere 6 2 4 0 4
Killygarry 4 2 2 0 4
Laragh United 5 1 3 1 3
Bailieboro 6 1 5 0 2
Ballymachugh 5 0 4 1 1
Swanlinbar 5 0 4 1 1



Lakeside Manor Hotel A.C.F.L. Division 3

Team P. W. L. D. Points
Cornafean 6 5 1 0 10
Butlersbridge 5 3 1 1 7
Shannon Gaels 6 3 2 1 7
Cavan Gaels 4 3 1 0 6
Kill 5 3 2 0 6
Killeshandra 6 3 3 0 6
Muntirconnacht 6 3 3 0 6
Corlough 5 2 3 0 4
Kildallan 5 2 3 0 4
Templeport 6 2 4 0 4
Arva 4 1 2 1 3
Maghera 5 1 3 1 3
Mountnugent 5 1 4 0 2

Safety Solutions A.C.F.L. Division 4

Team P. W. L. D. Points
Crosserlough 6 5 1 0 10
Gowna 6 4 1 1 9
Mullahoran 5 4 0 1 9
Ballinagh 6 4 2 0 8
Denn 6 2 1 1 7
Drumalee 6 3 3 0 6
Kingscourt 6 3 4 0 6
Belturbet 5 3 2 0 6
Drumlane 6 2 3 1 5
Castlerahan 6 2 4 0 4
Lacken 6 2 4 0 4
Ballyhaise 6 1 4 1 3
Cuchullains 6 1 5 0 2
Cavan Gaels 4 0 3 1 1



Martin McCabe Auctineer A.C.F.L. Division 5

Team P. W. L. D. Points
Bailieboro 6 6 0 0 12
Killygarry 5 5 0 0 10
Killinkere 6 4 1 1 9
Ramor United 4 3 0 1 7
Shercock 5 3 1 1 7
Drung 6 3 3 0 6
Drumgoon 5 1 2 2 4
Laragh United 5 1 3 1 3
Lavey 4 1 2 1 3
Cootehill 5 1 4 0 2
Redhills 6 1 5 0 2
Knockbride 4 0 3 1 1
Ballymachugh 5 0 5 0 0

John Brady Insurances A.C.F.L. Division 6

Team P. W. L. D. Points
Kildallan 6 6 0 0 12
Arva 5 5 0 0 10
Cornafean 6 4 2 0 8
Killeshandra 6 4 2 0 8
Killygarry 6 3 1 2 8
Butlersbridge 6 3 3 0 6
Templeport 6 3 3 0 6
Shannon Gaels 6 2 3 1 5
Kill 4 2 2 0 4
Mountnugent 4 2 2 0 4
Corlough 5 1 4 0 2
Maghera 6 1 5 0 2
Muntirconnacht 6 1 5 0 2
Killinkere 6 0 5 1 1

It will be interesting next year Two more Senior Club Reserves will be Promoted to division 3 and Junior clubs relegated to Division 4 where they will be playing Reserve teams.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on May 29, 2007, 03:57:16 PM
Its about time it was done !!!!!!  It might actually help football in the county.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on June 01, 2007, 01:18:23 PM
Result from Last night

Drumalee 2-10 Ballyhaise 0-12 or it could be 0-13 im not sure.

anyway Drumalee win.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: shotstopper1 on June 01, 2007, 02:34:25 PM
Ballyhaiseman,
Whats the story on Cullivan heard there was another no show last night,third game this year, is this orders from county management or what?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on June 01, 2007, 03:36:59 PM
couldnt have been county orders shotstopper,
Mickey Brennan and Enda McCormick both members of the county panel were playing for Drumalee.
I for one have no idea why he wasnt there or at the Lacken game,The other lads dont seem to know either.

Brennan was outstanding last night by the way from midfield,
Kicked over 4 from play and  and a couple of huge frees from long distance along with setting up both goals.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: CC1 on June 02, 2007, 02:51:51 PM
We had a decent result last night. Beat Cootehill 1-15 to 0-11. Liam Og Reilly having an absolute blinder of a game. I'll be astonished if this lad doesn't make the county panel at some stage. One of the best man markers I have seen at club level. Seriously quick, strong and not afraid of going in for a tackle. He is still under 21 too. Held Darragh Gaffney scoreless from play in the U21 final last year, held Junior player of the year John McCabe scoreless in the semi finals last year and held Colm Smith scoreless from play last night. How Keoghan didn't even have him on his U21 panel this year is beyond me.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: The Bottom Brick on June 02, 2007, 03:10:56 PM
Belturbet hammered Drumlane 2-8 to 0-4

B'nagh beat Lacken 2-5 to 0-7

Any other results?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: maverick on June 03, 2007, 09:00:54 PM
Crosserlough 2-5 Cuchullians 0-6
Cavan Gaels beat Gowna by 10
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on June 04, 2007, 02:04:02 PM
welcome to the board Maverick

Some beating the Gaels gave Gowna

Kingscourt 0-11 Mullahoran 3-15

Crosserlough are on a hell of a run.
If they can keep this going for the championship,i think they are the only team that could beat the Gaels this year.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: CC1 on June 05, 2007, 11:43:47 AM
TPS Ltd. A.C.F.L. Division 1

Team P. W. L. D. Points
Cavan Gaels 6 5 0 1 11
Crosserlough 6 5 0 1 11
Ballinagh 6 4 1 1 9
Castlerahan 7 4 2 1 9
Denn 6 4 2 0 8
Gowna 6 3 2 1 7
Belturbet 7 3 4 0 6
Cuchullains 7 3 4 0 6
Drumalee 6 3 3 0 6
Mullahoran 7 3 4 0 6
Lacken 6 2 4 0 4
Ballyhaise 7 1 5 1 3
Drumlane 6 1 5 0 2
Kingscourt 7 1 6 0 2

Cathal Brady Audi A.C.F.L. Division 2

Team P. W. L. D. Points
Drumgoon 7 6 1 0 12
Knockbride 6 4 0 2 10
Ramor United 7 4 1 2 10
Redhills 6 5 1 0 10
Shercock 7 3 2 2 8
Drung 7 3 3 1 7
Lavey 6 3 2 1 7
Cootehill 7 3 4 0 6
Killygarry 5 3 2 0 6
Killinkere 7 2 5 0 4
Bailieboro 7 1 5 1 3
Ballymachugh 6 1 4 1 3
Laragh United 6 1 4 1 3
Swanlinbar 6 0 5 1 1



Lakeside Manor Hotel A.C.F.L. Division 3

Team P. W. L. D. Points
Cornafean 7 5 1 1 11
Shannon Gaels 7 4 2 1 9
Cavan Gaels 5 4 1 0 8
Killeshandra 7 4 3 0 8
Butlersbridge 5 3 1 1 7
Kildallan 6 3 3 0 6
Kill 6 3 3 0 6
Muntirconnacht 7 3 4 0 6
Corlough 6 2 3 1 5
Mountnugent 6 2 4 0 4
Templeport 7 2 5 0 4
Arva 5 1 3 1 3
Maghera 6 1 4 1 3

Safety Solutions A.C.F.L. Division 4

Team P. W. L. D. Points
Crosserlough 7 6 1 0 12
Gowna 6 4 1 1 9
Mullahoran 5 4 0 1 9
Ballinagh 6 4 2 0 8
Denn 7 3 3 1 7
Castlerahan 7 3 4 0 6
Drumalee 6 3 3 0 6
Kingscourt 6 3 3 0 6
Belturbet 5 3 2 0 6
Drumlane 6 2 3 1 5
Lacken 6 2 4 0 4
Ballyhaise 6 1 4 1 3
Cuchullains 7 1 6 0 2
Cavan Gaels 4 0 3 1 1



Martin McCabe Auctineer A.C.F.L. Division 5

Team P. W. L. D. Points
Bailieboro 6 6 0 0 12
Killygarry 6 6 0 0 12
Killinkere 6 4 1 1 9
Ramor United 4 3 0 1 7
Shercock 5 3 1 1 7
Drung 6 3 3 0 6
Drumgoon 5 1 2 2 4
Laragh United 6 1 4 1 3
Lavey 4 1 2 1 3
Cootehill 5 1 4 0 2
Redhills 6 1 5 0 2
Knockbride 4 0 3 1 1
Ballymachugh 5 0 5 0 0

John Brady Insurances A.C.F.L. Division 6

Team P. W. L. D. Points
Kildallan 7 7 0 0 14
Arva 5 5 0 0 10
Cornafean 6 4 2 0 8
Killeshandra 6 4 2 0 8
Killygarry 6 3 1 2 8
Butlersbridge 6 3 3 0 6
Templeport 6 3 3 0 6
Shannon Gaels 6 2 3 1 5
Kill 5 2 3 0 4
Mountnugent 4 2 2 0 4
Corlough 5 1 4 0 2
Maghera 6 1 5 0 2
Muntirconnacht 6 1 5 0 2
Killinkere 6 0 5 1 1
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: maverick on June 05, 2007, 05:54:05 PM
No not really its just the way I play. Am a bit of a maverick on the field. So anyone got anymore news from the weekends football? Is it only postponed games on this weekend?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on June 05, 2007, 06:18:08 PM
fixtures
Friday, 08th June 2007 @ 8pm
TPS Ltd. A.C.F.L. Division 1
Lacken V Crosserlough
Referee: Brian Crowe

Saturday, 09th June 2007 @ 6.00pm
Safety Solutions A.C.F.L. Division 4
Cavan Gaels V Belturbet
Referee: Jimmy Galligan - Lacken
Drumalee V Ballyhaise
Referee: Martin Brady - Ballinagh
Kingscourt V Mullahoran
Referee: Patrick Brady

Saturday, 09th June 2007 @ 8pm
TPS Ltd. A.C.F.L. Division 1
Cavan Gaels V Denn
Referee: Jimmy Galligan - Lacken
Ballinagh V Gowna
Referee: Joe McQuillan
Drumalee V Drumlane
Referee: Martin Brady – Ballinagh

Saturday, 09th June 2007 @ 6.30pm
Lakeside Manor Hotel A.C.F.L. Division 3
Arva V Mountnugent
Referee: Oliver O'Reilly

Saturday, 09th June 2007 @ 8pm
John Brady Insurances Ltd. A.C.F.L. Division 6
Arva V Mountnugent
Referee: Oliver O'Reilly
Munterconnacht V Killygarry
Referee: Felim O'Reilly


Sunday, 10th June 2007 @ 2pm
Cathal Brady Audi A.C.F.L. Division 2
Lavey V Laragh
Referee: Martin Sexton
Ballymachugh V Knockbride
Referee: Packie Smith

Sunday, 10th June 2007 @ 4.30pm
Cathal Brady Audi A.C.F.L. Division 2
Killygarry V Swanlinbar
Referee: Sean Smith

Sunday, 10th June 2007 @ 3.30pm
Martin McCabe Auctioneer A.C.F.L. Division 5
Lavey V Laragh
Referee: Martin Sexton
Ballymachugh V Knockbride
Referee: Packie Smith
Ramor V Cootehill
Referee: Raymond Kelly

Sunday, 10th June 2007 @ 2pm
John Brady Insurances Ltd. A.C.F.L. Division 6
Corlough V Kill
Referee: Ciaran McGovern
Killinkere V Butlersbridge
Referee: Tony McDonald

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Hollow Man on June 05, 2007, 11:45:41 PM
Fair play CC1.

To be fair to the Echo, at least they're stirring some debate and writing some opinion stuff.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on June 06, 2007, 05:21:07 PM
Anyone have any views on the debate thats on the Hoganstand site about Eddie Reilly ?  Well it kinda a debate there saying the same things to each other last few days.

I think he isn't county standard but is a good club player.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on June 07, 2007, 11:22:45 PM
Decent shout CC1. I was never overly impressed by Eddie any time I saw him for club or county - he seems quite limited in alot of the aspects of the game - but the man seems to be in the form of his life and there's bound to be at least one passenger on the panel of 30 that could make way and give him another chance ahead of the qualifier, with 4 weeks to go to to it there's time to bed him back in. If he doesn't convert club form to county then maybe we could say for sure he's a non runner in longer term but I guess we can ill afford to ignore a player with physical presence who appears to be doing well.

Maybe try him in a challenge or something ahead of the qualifiers?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Davitt Man on June 08, 2007, 07:59:23 AM
Eddie Reilly is obviously good enough for the cavan team nevermind the squad. He is after all a forward and cavan are not exactly blessed with forward talent but the fact of the matter is he obviously opted out of the county set-up or else had a falling out with the management, so stop going on about him, if he wanted to play for his county then he could if he changed his attitude towards the management!!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on June 08, 2007, 08:14:05 AM
Quote from: Davitt Man on June 08, 2007, 07:59:23 AM
Eddie Reilly is obviously good enough for the cavan team nevermind the squad. He is after all a forward and cavan are not exactly blessed with forward talent but the fact of the matter is he obviously opted out of the county set-up or else had a falling out with the management, so stop going on about him, if he wanted to play for his county then he could if he changed his attitude towards the management!!

This is a discussion board so we can talk about whoever we want and he has only been mention by 3-4 posters anyway so i won't say anyone is going on about him.  In my opinion he wasn't good enough last year and i can't see how he would be good enough this year even if he is showing good form at club level.  He is greedy aswell shooting form impossible angles and i think we have enough of them there at the moment.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Davitt Man on June 08, 2007, 08:17:46 AM
Quote from: cavan4ever on June 08, 2007, 08:14:05 AM
Quote from: Davitt Man on June 08, 2007, 07:59:23 AM
Eddie Reilly is obviously good enough for the cavan team nevermind the squad. He is after all a forward and cavan are not exactly blessed with forward talent but the fact of the matter is he obviously opted out of the county set-up or else had a falling out with the management, so stop going on about him, if he wanted to play for his county then he could if he changed his attitude towards the management!!

This is a discussion board so we can talk about whoever we want and he has only been mention by 3-4 posters anyway so i won't say anyone is going on about him.  In my opinion he wasn't good enough last year and i can't see how he would be good enough this year even if he is showing good form at club level.  He is greedy aswell shooting form impossible angles and i think we have enough of them there at the moment.

Larry Reilly!!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: trim blue on June 08, 2007, 02:50:20 PM
Have to say I was delighted to see Eddie get on the panel last year but by the end of the season I was totally convinced that he isn't county material. Against Kildare he was like a headless chicken jumping on top of fellas to get at the ball and shooting widly, he just has less composure at this level than the other forward options at the moment.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on June 08, 2007, 03:09:37 PM
Yeah I saw him in a few other games where he was acting the action man superhero and it wasn't quite coming off, but we've nothing to lose by giving him another run in a challenge.

If he turns out to be no good, then so be it, but his form warrants another look I reckon.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on June 08, 2007, 03:53:59 PM
The Thing is could Eddie have been any worse than Some of the forwards such as Jason,Pierson etc the last day?
His strengths is his run making and effort and physique,His shooting can be erratic though and his decision making is poor.
i believe he should be brought back and given another chance...Even as an impact sub,he could create something out nothing for you.
i seen the debate on Hoganstand.

There are other forwards that deserve a chance aswell though

Philip Smith(Kingscourt)
Barry Corrigan(Drumlane)
Colm Sheridan(Lacken)
Andy Coleman(Baileborough)
Enda Mulvey(Castlerahan)
and dare i say Mickie Graham who scored 0-4 from play against Gowna for the Gaels.


OffTopic
C4Ever
what ever happened to Niall O Rourke? i seen his name mentioned on hoganstand he was destined to be a county star,was it injuries or lack of appetite for the game? hes seemed to have disappeared.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Blue06 on June 08, 2007, 04:32:10 PM
Re Eddie Reilly.  I don't think he was dropped from the panel.  I heard it was a case of him not turning up.
I am open to correction on this though.

Anyone any info on how training has been going since the Down match. 
Has there been any departures/arrivals?

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on June 08, 2007, 04:41:27 PM
I havent heard a word to be honest Blue06,
All very low key.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on June 11, 2007, 10:34:57 AM
Ballyhaiseman , looks like he has lost all interest in the game or is just afraid of getting hurt again.  He is some loss to us as he was a real match winner ,would love to see him back but after been out for so long he could never be the same again
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on June 11, 2007, 10:38:31 AM
I heard McCabe and Larry have quit but id say if it was true there would be more talk about it.  I also heard from a reliable source that Keoghan is going to quit.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on June 11, 2007, 12:22:09 PM
Jasus. That's a bit surprising if it's true, it looked as if the majority of players were giving him the effort so what might be pushing him to quit?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on June 11, 2007, 12:28:19 PM
Well from what im told he is putting an awful lot of time into it and all he is getting is abuse at the weekends in the imperial.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on June 11, 2007, 01:12:32 PM
Cripes. We could be back to square one in July then so. Hope it's not true we could do with the stability if nothing else. I'd be surprised if Keogan let that sort of nonsense get to him, can't see it happening.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: shotstopper1 on June 11, 2007, 02:12:06 PM
Quote from: cavan4ever on June 11, 2007, 12:28:19 PM
Well from what im told he is putting an awful lot of time into it and all he is getting is abuse at the weekends in the imperial.

Makes a change, it's normally him thats giving the abuse.


On the subject of Eddie Reilly, well if Mulvey can get a place on the team, then surely Eddie or any other half decent player should be given a chance.As for forwards I'm surprised no one has mentioned Gaffney from Drumalee,one of the top scorers in the club game for the last few years,surely worth a go.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on June 11, 2007, 02:49:41 PM
Quote from: cavanmaniac on June 11, 2007, 12:22:09 PM
Jasus. That's a bit surprising if it's true, it looked as if the majority of players were giving him the effort so what might be pushing him to quit?

Listen lads. Grimley is the manager, Keoghan is just a clown hanging around the fringes. I personally don't know how anyone could respect him and if he goes it will be all the better if Grimley can be convinced to stay on his own.

On Eddie Reilly, he should be given a go. He might be limited but he is still one of the best club players in Cavan and Guarunteed will have more impact than the likes of mackey. Unfortunately, it is too late this year for Eddie and Gaynor and I believe that if keoghan leaves it will be down to pressure for the way he handled their cases, especially Gaynor.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on June 11, 2007, 04:07:48 PM
Have McCabe and Larry quit? or are these just rumours?

Heard Cavan Gaels hammered Denn 1-20 to 0-07

Gowna beat Ballinagh by a few

Drumalee 6-10 Drumlane 1-09 i think  :o 6 goals,jaysus
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on June 11, 2007, 06:33:45 PM
Didn't hear anything about McCabe and Larry myself but I did hear that only 16 turned up for training last week. Worrying times indeed.

Lost to Gowna at the weekend by 4. They were far superior on the night and had just too much power for our depleted side (playing just 7 out of the 18 players involved in last years intermediate final). Probably lucky that the margin was only four in the end. McCabe lorded midfield.

Joe McQuillan was refereeing and found him very poor. Apparently he's got the Dublin-Meath replay BTW.

Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on June 11, 2007, 04:07:48 PM
Drumalee 6-10 Drumlane 1-09 i think  :o 6 goals,jaysus

There was only one point between the two at half-time and then the floodgates opened and Drumalee bagged three goals in five minutes. Starting to look fairly ominous for Drumlane.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on June 11, 2007, 08:30:10 PM
i can believe that about the poor attendance alright Homer.Was told today of how two key members of the team/panel(not going to name names) were seen drinking all day Last Sunday Week in the new Radisson SAS Hotel.Is there no Drinks ban?

suprised you lads lost to Gowna.
You were flying up until the C'Lough game and thats seemed top have knocked the stuffing out of yous at least temporarily.
Lets hope it stays that way until after we play yous in Ballinagh in a few weeks time  ;)

Drumlane and Kingscourt have to play yet. whoever loses that is a certainty to get relegated.
Our position isnt looking too great either.
we have to pick up 2 wins from next two games against Denn and Castlerahan.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on June 11, 2007, 11:37:24 PM
Ballymachugh are a tough doggid side with a couple of good players,James Kiernan etc,
But jaysus you would expect Knockbride to be beating them.

i was suprised at Killygarry getting relegated in the first place,seen them a fair bit in league and championship last year and i thought they were good.

We have Swad in the first round of IFC,they arent going well,but i expect them to be very tough .

Lavey will cause a shock or two in the IFC, especially if Jordan and Maguire are fit,but they just dont have the allround strength to challenge.

Laragh nearly upset Drumalee last year,but seem to have gone back.


Id be expecting Your crowd to be there or thereabouts along with Buttlersbridge for the JFC, CC1
Its about time you joined the Intermediate ranks  ;)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on June 12, 2007, 12:24:46 PM
Very sad to hear of the death of Eamonn Coleman. It puts the whole football thing in perspective I suppose. Rest in peace Eamonn.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Hollow Man on June 12, 2007, 01:47:08 PM
Intersting article for Cavan supporters


http://www.cavanecho.com/pdf/pages/cav028.pdf


Any word on any new additions to the panel lately? Hear Mccabe had a monstrous match last weekend
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on June 12, 2007, 01:57:17 PM
interesting and well written article HM.

the latest Post on Hoganstand,is one i agree with,

The Giving of the Minor Job to either Niall Lynch and /or Mickie Graham and give them 3  or 4 years at it, quit this chopping and changing after 2 years.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: The Bottom Brick on June 12, 2007, 02:22:37 PM
I agree, Mickey Graham has a decent record so far with Bridge and Drumalee...

Niall Lynch has a super record with Virginia too
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on June 12, 2007, 02:59:05 PM
I agree with the shouts for a four-year tenure in charge of the minors. It makes sense. The minor job has been treated like a revolving chair in recent years and if Graham got it and took it, it'd be a decent line of continuity through from U16 or under, and on into minor and perhaps into U21.

IMHO, the underage grades are practically all that matters in Cavan football for the next five years. We have alot of our top performers about to shuffle off the stage and althought there's a sprinkling of decent players of a younger vintage there behind them, in reality I think we could be looking at more lean years at senior. If the present, younger senior players played on for a few more years and became more seasoned, in four years or so we could have a good crop from the underage teams to come through and fuse into a decent blend.

The article in Echo is absolutely spot on the button too, it's what I've been saying for years. Whatever about finding our own Crusheen up near Swanlinbar or somewhere, addressing our dreadful losers and chokers mentality at underage is absolutely fundamental if we're to go anywhere at senior in next five years, because that mentality is carried into seniors by players who are probably promoted to senior too early as well. Oh what a win against Down minors a few years ago and a place in the Ulster final might have done for the county in general!

From what I can gather, Graham has done well in any job he's taken so far and has a good record with underage sides in the county. He might carry a bit more clout with present teenagers as well having been a decent forward in recent times, and still at club, that the young fellas will remember and look up to.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on June 12, 2007, 03:06:39 PM
Definatlely shud be lynch or graham
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on June 12, 2007, 03:28:20 PM
according to some highly informed individual on the inferior GAA site Messageboard.
Jelly
Gunner
and Martin Cahill have either f**ked off to the US or are planning to in the immediate future.  :D
i Highly doubt thats true
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on June 12, 2007, 03:44:58 PM
Where was that? On hoganchimps.com? Sent in by eddie the egg? Pah!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on June 12, 2007, 05:06:19 PM
Shit lads stop laughing

http://www.hoganstand.com/Cavan/ArticleForm.aspx?ID=78645 (http://www.hoganstand.com/Cavan/ArticleForm.aspx?ID=78645)

Brady and Johnston accepts Chicago call

Cavan footballer and world handball champion, Paul Brady along with Seanie Johnston, have dramatically pulled out of Donal Keogan's side just weeks before the county begin their assault on the All-Ireland qualifiers.

Brady, along with fellow Cavan player, Seanie Johnson, will travel to Chicago later in the week where the pair will line out with the St Brendan's club for the remainder of the championship season.

Brady, a two-time world handball champion, will take advantage of his time in the States to prepare for the US Handball Open which takes place in Los Angeles in October. Last week, the Mullahoran clubman was honoured with the Handballer of the Year Award for 2006, his second time to receive the accolade.

Brady was scheduled to make a rare appearance in the 60 x 30 code and One Wall Nationals this year, but is likely to keep to the familiar 40 x 20 training during his stay in Chicago. His departure, and that of Cavan Gaels star, Seanie Johnson, will be a major loss to the Breffni side. Mullohoran, who are aiming to defend their county title this season, have also been dealt a severe blow by Brady's exodus but the 27-year-old will now turn his attention to collecting silverware stateside.

News of Brady and Johnson's US move comes quick on the heals of a large number of Antrim players taking up offers of summer football from various other American clubs.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on June 12, 2007, 05:13:55 PM
shite i though it was bullshit aswell..  Best of luck to them but not good for county team  >:(
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on June 12, 2007, 05:29:06 PM
No, definitely not.  >:(

Says alot about what they reckon the team can achieve and gives the lie to the line being peddled by Keogan and Grimley all year about a fantastic bunch of players giving it their all with full commitment and so on.

If this is the attitude in the squad, and with one of the players in question related to Keogan as well, it would appear that interest has bottomed out completely and the season is about to fizzle out into a damp squib. On one hand I can't blame the guys really but on the other I think it's a selfish act and letting down the others on the team who have trained as hard all year. There can't really be great unity and spirit in the camp like we thought.

I hope I'm wrong but we look even more of a soft touch in the qualifiers now and that's a shame because we did seem to ahve made some little bit of progress this year from an admittedly low starting point.

It makes for grim reading and all in all would leave a person:
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Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on June 12, 2007, 05:41:33 PM
This is a fu*king disgrace. I am an admirer of both players abilities but this is a kick in the teeth to the other players and to the supporters of Cavan up and down the country. Many exceptions have been made for Brady over the years to accomodate his handball and this is what we get back. And to think Anthony Gaynor went away for a couple of weeks pre-season and he gets the boot!!! What the hell did these boys train all year for if they are going to head off like that. Maybe if we paid them they'd play a bit better for Cavan. Clearly the senior panel is in melt-down. 16 at training, players pissing off. I for one don't Brady and Johnstone well at all - may the divil bull them.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: trim blue on June 12, 2007, 06:01:25 PM
Very dissappointing news. Brady and Johnstone shouldn't be let play for Cavan again if this is true, if they had told mgt at the start of the year that this was their intention then they wouldn't be on the panel in the first place so to spring this on the other players and mgt now is just taking the piss and sticking the two fingers up at anyone who is committed about Cavan football. Maybe the rumours about Larry and McCabe quitting aren't too wide of the mark either..
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on June 12, 2007, 06:14:12 PM
Very surprised and disappointed with the news.

On one hand I accept that young people like Johnston deserve the chance to travel before they commit to the restrains of the real world. But on the other (much heavier at this point) hand how can these guys just up sticks and leave their team-mates and county during a championship campaign.

Could this be anything to do with the two lads not starting against Down in Newry?

Gunner said at the start of the year he was giving one last year to Cavan football before relinquishing his dual role, so has he played his last game in the Breffni Blue.

If Keoghan & Co. stick about for another year, will we see these boys get the same cold shoulder Gaynor is getting??
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on June 12, 2007, 06:38:16 PM
Perfect time to bring back Eddie and Gaynor so.  :)
we need a back and a forward to add to the panel.

(thats a nice can of worms there im just after opening up)

Disappointed the two guys are going,IMO they would have been key players if we wanted to progress in the qualifiers.
But well it leaves the door open to two players who  want to be there.

Jelly and Gunner will also miss the first round and possibely the quarter finals of the club championships aswell.
The Gaels will miss him against Gowna in the first round,thats for sure.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on June 12, 2007, 09:29:19 PM
Yet again folks I think this begins to expose my sad theory that the good people of Cavan are being spun another pile of shite-we heard it all in various previous regimes-Kerrigan, McIlkennon being the best physical coach in the Country and we turn out an embarrassingly unfit team on a number of key occassions (Mayo in last 12, Down last albeit injury crisis was serious). So we get the same crack from Grimley and Keogan in the media this year,,,,,,,,,,,,,effort put in, couldn't ask more of them, same level of professionalism as Armagh etc. etc. etc. Then we get the first round against down and at least three players are patently unfit, overweight etc. The actions of these guys heading off to USA says more about the state of the panel than any of the standard managerial soundbytes.

Sad
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on June 13, 2007, 12:20:42 AM
There's a part of me that cannot begrudge these lads the chance to make a few handy quid.

But there's an even bigger part of me that thinks f**k these pricks I'd rather not win a game at senior level for three years than have either of them on the team again.

We clearly have to go back to square one and nurture young players from knee high up who both take pride in and understand what it means to pull on the blue shirt of a county with innumerably more Ulster titles than any other and as many All-Irelands as its nearest rivals in the province. Where is it all going wrong that two of our leading players and supposed role models for young gaels in our county can so flippantly f**k off in the middle of the championship without so much as having the decency to be even a little bit embarrassed?

The senior team has been suffering from too much short-termism for years, most noticably in how 'star' players have been indulged no matter what the sins under various managers and how other youngsters are brought in too soon and either over worked or infected with the general malaise. If the tail wasn't still wagging the dog when it comes to the county team and these big name players, these guys wouldn't have the balls to walk out now, in such an insulting fashion to all supporters, because they know that in a professional county they'd be effectively ending their intercounty careers. But deep down they know that when they come back and deign to consider the county team - probably after being begged to - there'll be an open door and a starting jersey for them.

If we have to clear out all these self-serving muppets with their deep seated sense of entitlement and grossly inflated notion of self worth - and not win at senior for three years, I'd put up with it if at the end of the whole sorry bood letting process we had a squad full of passionate players willing to bust a gut for their county because they know and understand the responsibility and deep honour that goes with it.

This year is going backwards and down the drain in a rapid hurry. I'm disgusted and depressed the more I think about it. I'm ready for more horror stories, it's like a return to the bad old days under Mattie Kerrigan. Which begs the question, if Keogan has lost his taste for it, is it his own indifference that has handed carte blanche to the playes again to declare open season on team discipline and morale?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: The Bottom Brick on June 13, 2007, 09:37:36 AM
On a better note, Cavan beat Mayo by four points in a challenge in Athlone last night

Mayo had Mortimer, McDonald, Dillon etc all playing
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on June 13, 2007, 09:51:01 AM
Any idea who had cavan playing Brick ?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: The Bottom Brick on June 13, 2007, 10:18:17 AM
Rumour has it Larry and Mackey were very good, that's all i know
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Davitt Man on June 13, 2007, 10:21:34 AM
Quote from: The Bottom Brick on June 13, 2007, 09:37:36 AM
On a better note, Cavan beat Mayo by four points in a challenge in Athlone last night

Mayo had Mortimer, McDonald, Dillon etc all playing

Any one know what the full teams were?

On Sean Johnson leaving for the US, it seems there is a bit of a rift between himself and management, he was wrongly substituted in the drawn down game he now he has had enough by the looks of it.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on June 13, 2007, 11:09:26 AM
Is Sean Johnston a man or a f**king mouse? Is he such a cry baby that he can't accept being substituted, even if it was in the wrong, and go out and prove his doubters wrong in the next game like a real man would, and more to the point, a real sportsman?

Does he consider himself undroppable or untouchable on the basis of one or two top displays for his county and a bit of a run in the Sigerson? I accept he should be disappointed to be dropped or subbed - any one worth their salt should be - but the way to deal with that is on the field with the head down like he did in Newry, and not spit the dummy like a primadonna who seems to think he has achieved enough in the game to be telling management what to do.

Again I say, and I don't care how good he is, if he's not willing to toe the line, take selections on the chin and play for the good of the team, then he shouldn't be back on the panel.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on June 13, 2007, 12:20:27 PM
http://www.hoganstand.com/ArticleForm.aspx?ID=78707 (http://www.hoganstand.com/ArticleForm.aspx?ID=78707)

Keoghan fuming over defections

Cavan manager Donal Keoghan has told Paul Brady and Seanie Johnston that they will never play under him again following their decision to spend the rest of the summer in the US.

World Handball champion Brady and ace attacker Johnston informed a stunned Keoghan of their decision on Monday night to travel to Chicago where they will play for the St. Brendan's club. It's understood that they were contacted last week by St. Brendan's and plan to fly out to the US on Friday.

Keoghan said a third unnamed player is leaving too, though a Cavan official said the player was still "considering his options."

But the defections of Brady and Johnston is a huge blow to the Breffni County's hopes of making an impact in the All-Ireland qualifiers following their elimination from the Ulster SFC last month by Down.

"I'm very disappointed with them and the lack of respect they've shown for their team-mates, for the management and for the Cavan team," a fuming Keoghan said.

"I just got word that a third guy is heading off too and all I can say is that I'm very disappointed with them and their decision.

"I'll be honest with you, I don't even want to change their minds at this stage. If they want to train all year and then up sticks and head off to America then it just shows how much they really care about Cavan football.

"Any fella that goes away to America won't be wearing a Cavan jersey again while I'm in charge. I'm very hurt about it. There's definitely no way they'll be back playing while I'm in charge."

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"a third unnamed player is leaving too"

Looks like Cahill is heading stateside too. Finbar Reilly a la 2006 anyone?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on June 13, 2007, 12:30:52 PM
Hopefully someone new will get a chance to prove themselves now, one thing for sure is it makes Gaynor look like a saint for going away in December when there were no games.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on June 13, 2007, 12:46:37 PM
I haven't been Keoghans biggest fan but I have to say that every word in that report above is exactly what I think. Let the pair (or three) of them f**k off and stay in the US. I will miss Johnstones clench fist to the crowd everytime he scores - not. Best to get the players out that don't truly care about Cavan and get the lads in (i.e. Gaynor) that do care about the county team.

That was a good result against Mayo, I'd love to know what the teams were. Maybe this exodus will work to unite the team.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Maximus Marillius on June 13, 2007, 01:02:52 PM
Why are there so mnay wankers in Cavan football
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on June 13, 2007, 01:19:33 PM
Quote from: Maximus Marillius on June 13, 2007, 01:02:52 PM
Why are there so mnay wankers in Cavan football

Didn't realise a census had been done on the proportion of wankers in each counties GAA :).
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on June 13, 2007, 01:20:08 PM
"I'm very disappointed with them and the lack of respect they've shown for their team-mates, for the management and for the Cavan team," a fuming Keoghan said.

"I just got word that a third guy is heading off too and all I can say is that I'm very disappointed with them and their decision.

"I'll be honest with you, I don't even want to change their minds at this stage. If they want to train all year and then up sticks and head off to America then it just shows how much they really care about Cavan football.

"Any fella that goes away to America won't be wearing a Cavan jersey again while I'm in charge. I'm very hurt about it. There's definitely no way they'll be back playing while I'm in charge."

Well said that man. Whatever you think about Keogan he's on the money with this one.

I hoep the guy in the Echo goes to town on these players this weekend as well, you needn't rely on the Celt to reflect the mood of the supporters.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on June 13, 2007, 01:24:50 PM
Quote from: Maximus Marillius on June 13, 2007, 01:02:52 PM
Why are there so mnay wankers in Cavan football

your guess is as good as mine.

You dont hear of any of the Longford or Westmeath lads going over to the US,and christ we have as good a chance as progressing in the qualifiers as they do.



Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: LaurelEye on June 13, 2007, 03:21:12 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on June 13, 2007, 01:24:50 PM
Quote from: Maximus Marillius on June 13, 2007, 01:02:52 PM
Why are there so mnay wankers in Cavan football

your guess is as good as mine.

You dont hear of any of the Longford or Westmeath lads going over to the US,and christ we have as good a chance as progressing in the qualifiers as they do.

Well, Longford managed to do OK in the qualifiers last year in spite of one player fecking off to San Fran the week after the Dublin game. It didn't do us any harm and it could serve to motivate the rest of them, provided things are OK otherwise.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: LaurelEye on June 13, 2007, 03:42:06 PM
Quote from: cavanmaniac on June 13, 2007, 01:20:08 PMI hoep the guy in the Echo goes to town on these players this weekend as well, you needn't rely on the Celt to reflect the mood of the supporters.

To judge by the commentary on Hoganstand, the general attitude of the Cavan supporters seems to be in support of their players walking off as they see fit. Perhaps it's a case of the loudest voices drowning out the rest, perhaps people don't want to rock boats within the respective clubs, but that seems to be the general outlook all the same.

I'm not saying I agree with it (I don't), but it seems to chime with the general "where's mine?/what's in it for me?" attitude in this country these days. Idealists like yourself and myself are a dying breed, maniac :(
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on June 13, 2007, 04:24:38 PM
Quote from: LaurelEye on June 13, 2007, 03:42:06 PM
Quote from: cavanmaniac on June 13, 2007, 01:20:08 PMI hoep the guy in the Echo goes to town on these players this weekend as well, you needn't rely on the Celt to reflect the mood of the supporters.

To judge by the commentary on Hoganstand, the general attitude of the Cavan supporters seems to be in support of their players walking off as they see fit. Perhaps it's a case of the loudest voices drowning out the rest, perhaps people don't want to rock boats within the respective clubs, but that seems to be the general outlook all the same.

I'm not saying I agree with it (I don't), but it seems to chime with the general "where's mine?/what's in it for me?" attitude in this country these days. Idealists like yourself and myself are a dying breed, maniac :(

The thing with the hoganstand is that it is heavily sensored. I used to post there a bit but half them didn't get published. There is a strong editorial bias in many of the debates. I keep in contact with a lot of friends at home and I would say that most of them are disgusted with what these boys did. Most players would think twice before doing that to their local club never mind the county team. Anyway, most of them clowns on the hoganstand are 15 year olds that don't have fully developed brains so I would mind what they are saying.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on June 13, 2007, 04:52:29 PM
Some lad on Hoganstand reckons he was at the Mayo match, I pasted his analysis below....

Cavan v Mayo
I went over to the cavan mayo match last night. Cavan were missing a lot, obviously none of the USA bound lads and no pierson mckeever fordey or sean brady, while mayo seemed to have nearly everyone apart from a few (andy moran, pat harte, david brady, could be more...)

Fairly high intensity with a massive amount of turnovers on both sides but good hard hitting
In truth cavan could have won by more - jayo got both goals and could have had another, donal thomas came on and got thru a couple of times and fired over
Johnny crowe played well on mcdonald, mccabe was good, as was walsh larry and cian mackey. Keith fannin and michael hannon were good in the full back line

Hopefully might help get things back on track and give us a few more days out during the summer
martin , cavan Ireland , 13/06/2007 at 16:01
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on June 13, 2007, 09:55:37 PM
Shooting the messangers:





A few folks here have gone in seriously hard on Gunner and Jelly and, while I understand their frustration and certainly agree that some (not all) panelists are entitled to feel let down, I can't agree with the stick that they are getting.



Without knowing either of these fellas, they certainly struck me, up to now, as being two of the more committed members of the panel, good levels of fitness/committment, no major stories of them being among the more, ahem, social members of the team/panel. So they hammer along training through the shite all winter, we achieve our first objective of getting out of Division 2B and Messrs Keoghan and Grimley advise us that all is sweetness and light-fitness/training/togetherness etc. Next thing we line up for the first round of the Ulster Championship with at least three players that I counted in a state of unfitness that would not have been tolerated in the days of McHugh or, god help us, Val Andrews. This is then compounded by a level of tactical awareness on the sidelines that the Cavan Echo memorably dubbed "Under 12 Challenge"-whatever the problem, replace the corner forwards. Out we go at the replay and then a seven week wait ensues and most of the information about our panelists revolves around an element of socialising. Numbers at training total 16 on one night.



So then Jelly and Gunner get phone calls asking them to come to Chicago and play for the summer for SERIOUS bloody mullah. I know of players from other counties that have received the offers and they are certainly enough to make people think. I have  no doubt they did agonise over it but can fully understand, theyre not going to be getting that offer in 10 years time and Cavan would not be the greatest at looking after some of it's former stars that could do with some support. Whether we like it or not folks Money is now the common language of this country and is one reason why self employed men like, for instance, Trevor Crowe cannot make the committment we would all love to see.



Of course a win in the qualifiers and this will soon be forgotten. The really sad thing is that, rather than banging on about these guys actions, the county board should perhaps be doing some serious soul searching as to why a situation has arisen whereby two Railway Cup players have taken this action. Problem for our county board is that part of the responsibility may lie a bit close to home.



Finally-not real clever of Donal to dismiss this lot as well as Gaynor. My feeling is that Gaynor and Jelly will be wearing the blue Jersey when the current management team is well forgotten




Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on June 13, 2007, 11:54:37 PM
I can see why they went ac39. It's a good offer, they're young men, not tied down, and in Gunners case it's a chance to base himself Stateside and make another few bucks at the handball, which is all he has to put bread on the table.

But their decision to jump now, 2 weeks before our next game, shows how flimsy their commitment to the cause really is when the surface is scratched. The first wave of a bit of cash and they literally can't wait to drop their knickers. I agree fully with Keogan when he says that this shows what they really think of Cavan football. Cavan football, in return for their own ackowledged efforts has nurtured them, given them their profile, improved them as players and I'm sure has had various positive knock on effects in their personal and professional lives.

St. Brendans in Chicago doesn't give a f**k about Cavan or its footballers, or even about Gunner and Sean Johnston for that matter. It has done nothing for the development of the game in Cavan, and by flashing the wallet at players before they are finished their commitments to the hundreds of volunteers and team mates that have given them so much at both their clubs and county team, is absolutely bang out of order.

I have no problem with players going over on a jolly - once their commitment to the clubs and people that helped make them what they are, and gave them the platform for being head hunted by glory hunting american clubs (who'd be better off investing their money in teaching locals the games, especially if it's such big sums we're talking here) has been realised. I'm just an idealist like Laurel Eye says, I guess.

I do agree that Jelly will play again in a Cavan shirt long after the current management is gone and I suspect you offered this as a tacit endorsement of what they're doing and their greater importance in the overall scheme of things to come down the line than Keogan, but welcoming back guys like this is just more quick-buckism of the type that has hindered our county team for years. A good player is forgiven all ills for the short term gain, nobody looks at the bigger picture of why some of our best players have lost sight of what playing for a county like ours should still mean - or is all that obliterated by the 'what's in it for me' attitude as well, or more so in the place of Cavan players especially, 'sure they'll beg me to come back anyway, I'll look after meself and play when it suits me.'

All this still applies irrespective of how unfit the likes of Mulvey etc were against Down. Those guys aside there was a definite upswing in player commitment to training this year and a much better attitude and pride/fighting spirit in the squad. This pair (soon to be trio?) going against that grain makes all this even more lamentable and inexscusable. I applaud Keogan if he stays brave and keeps guys like this off the panel because 15 fighting and passionate Cavan men with pride in their county and its jersey is better in the long term than a bunch of malcontents with delusions of grandeur, serving their own interests first and behaving like guys who have a sideboard full of medals when in fact nobody would recognise them or give them a second look outside their own county.

Sorry for banging on but this really fucks me off altogether.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: shotstopper1 on June 14, 2007, 06:33:15 PM
Just a suggestion, but do any of ye think that if the county championships were up and running (or even regular league games) would these lads be as quick to head off.As it is they can feck off for 2 months in the middle of summer to the states, and arrive back in time to play in the semi - finals of the championship in mid August.(presuming the Gaels & Mullahoran get that far).
The County Board are as big a culprits in this as the players are,and Keoghan should have held his whist,some management.

At least there's a chance these players will be available in the future (Gunner could/but unlikely change his mind about retiring).What if Cian Mackey takes up Cork City's invitation to train with them and is successful, chances are he may not play for the County again.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on June 14, 2007, 10:18:57 PM
Fair points in there Maniac.

Who are Gunner and Jelly letting down? I don't think they owe a whole lot to Cavan supporters who, like me, are an increasingly fickle and critical lot. Clubs/counties that nurtured/developed them-up to a point but that is a two way street.

Who they have let down is the other panel members and the management team. But here's my point-as far as I'm concerned a number of other players have let their fellow panel members down already-the three players (not just Mulvey, 20% of the bloody team) who lined out against Down clearly unfit for 70 minutes of championship football, the fella who split his time between Monaghan United and the County Panel, the number of blokes who, we are led to believe, did not let county committments get in the way of their social committments. Surely as Gunner and Jelly were contemplating their offer their thinking was informed by the attitudes of othe panel members. Interestingly these two guys would have had exposure to another side of sports preparation-Gunner with the Handball and Jelly with a DCU Sigerson Cup team.

Hopefully we will win at least one game in the qualifiers although it will be challenging. If the season becomes a bit more shambolic I will gladly line up to cast the first stone at Mr Grimley who has been reassuring us of the mini-Armagh style revolution that was undeway during his tenure, Jaysus boy there were some large panting elephants in the drawing room at Breffni during the preliminary round. Anyway, no more bitching and hopefully Grimley can turn this into a bit of a siege thing with the remaining players.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on June 16, 2007, 02:24:37 PM
Report on game against Mayo.....

http://www.cavanecho.com/pdf/pages/cav030.pdf

Our favorite news columists take on Mad Eddie

http://www.cavanecho.com/pdf/pages/cav028.pdf
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on June 16, 2007, 10:13:49 PM
Martin Reily at wing back?  :o

as for the team,Like the idea of two ball winners in the half forward line in Galligan and Cullivan.

Dermot Sheridan at Full Back? i think thers place on the team for him but not full back

No Sign of Darren Rabbitte which is diappointing.

anyway its always good to win, against what looks to be a strong Mayo team.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on June 18, 2007, 03:22:53 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on June 16, 2007, 10:13:49 PM
two ball winners in the half forward line in Galligan and Cullivan.

No offence but any time I've seen (Ciarán) Galligan he looks like he wouldn't win a ball if it was first prize in a raffle and he had bought all the tickets. A big strapping lad and every inch of him is scared of his shite. :o

I saw him up close in Newry and he ran around all day after Down lads steadfastly refusing to put a tackle on anyone. Going through the motions and hoping nobody noticed. It's a shame that when we unearth a genuine big strong player, he looks like he'd fall over in a swoon if you flicked him with a leaf of lettuce or be in traction for a month after a firm handshake. Very disappointed in him so far and seeing as you can't buy bravery I don't see him changing much.

Or am I being too harsh?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on June 18, 2007, 03:40:04 PM
Your right maniac there is no football in him and he lets games drift by him without making an impact.  He is getting out shone this year at club by his midfield partner who is 33/34.  I don't wanna be to harsh on the lad cos he gives more commitment that most but he isn't even a good club player.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on June 18, 2007, 04:22:39 PM
Would agree with both accounts on Galligan. No questioning the lad's commitment in training if only he could commit to a 50-50 in Newry.

Hair pulling stuff to think one of his own club-men can admit his flaws and inadequacies as a club midfielder yet Keoghan and Co. would start the fella midfield in an Ulster Championship match.  ::)

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on June 18, 2007, 04:48:41 PM
we are back to a McCabe, Walsh Midfield for the rest of this year anyway,No-one else has shown themselves to be up to the required standard  ::)

C4ever
Paul Slowey is indeed playing great stuff for you lads, averaging what 4 or 5 points per game from MF?

i seen Donal Thomas was brought on as a sub in that Mayo game aswell.
Dont think he has it for Intercounty either though,

who was it that mentioned Homers clubmate McDermott as a possible option a few weeks back?
im beginning to see the possibilities there.Heard hes playing great stuff for Ballinagh.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on June 18, 2007, 05:00:19 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on June 18, 2007, 04:48:41 PM


C4ever
Paul Slowey is indeed playing great stuff for you lads, averaging what 4 or 5 points per game from MF?

i

Yeah i haven't seen him playing aswell in a long time playing serious stuff , he's making the lad beside him look awful bad.  Yeah he has 9 points from his last 2 games can't remember what he has scored before that but he has been catching any ball that comes near him.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on June 18, 2007, 05:28:19 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on June 18, 2007, 04:48:41 PM
who was it that mentioned Homers clubmate McDermott as a possible option a few weeks back?
im beginning to see the possibilities there.Heard hes playing great stuff for Ballinagh.

Cian has more than enough ability and power to make it at inter-county level but I doubt he would be interested to be honest. He went into the county u21s for 2 weeks last year before packing it in. A pity as he would have made a great addition to the side had he stuck with it. Looked sluggish in our last two games but I would consider exam-time had a lot of bearing on this, that and he did have the unenviable task of marshaling Trevor Crowe and Dermot McCabe.

Damien McInerney is another fella that needs to be convinced to return to the county-fold. A lion-hearted footballer and a tremendous athlete, he just doesn't know how to let you down. I wouldn't let his small stature fool you either - a little tank.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on June 18, 2007, 06:04:42 PM
I have been flitting in and out of this discussion so some of my questions may have been answered.

1) are the players getting a transfer to St. Brendan's  If they have been transfered, surely they can't play for their clubs until next year.

2)  what has the county board said about this? More importantly, what has Croke park said about it?

The qualifiers when the happen will be of a standard that is as high as these vguys woud ever play.  Surely they want to prove themselves.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on June 18, 2007, 06:25:52 PM
Quote from: Denn Forever on June 18, 2007, 06:04:42 PM
I have been flitting in and out of this discussion so some of my questions may have been answered.

1) are the players getting a transfer to St. Brendan's  If they have been transfered, surely they can't play for their clubs until next year.

2)  what has the county board said about this? More importantly, what has Croke park said about it?

The qualifiers when the happen will be of a standard that is as high as these vguys woud ever play.  Surely they want to prove themselves.

Regarding 1, you can get a 60 day sanction to play football with foreign clubs and then return and play for your own club in the same year. As far as I know the sanction lasts the full 60 days so they will miss the next two months.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on June 18, 2007, 09:03:36 PM
McInerney is a class act no doubt,Put him in at Cornerback on the county and forget about that position for 5-10 yearss

As for Cian McDermott
i seen him playing for Ballinagh under 21's against our lot,in November 2005,He played the field,outfielding Cullivan and Conor Lyons with ease it seemed,we dragged out our Full Back to spoil him then after 25 minutes,but the damage was already done,i thought he was a certainty for County Under 21's 06 after seeing that.
Shame he doesnt have the interest.

Denn Forever

How did ye Denn H00rs react when ye heard Martin Cahill was US Bound?  :P
a Big Blow to yer hopes of progressing in the Senior Championship.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on June 18, 2007, 10:54:19 PM
Need you ask when we got hammered by the Gaels.  Do we need to get Donal out of retirement.


Thanks for the answer Homer.  Good luck to them.
So it appears that the GAA condon this practice.  I thought that recently someone fell foul of this recently

Will we miss them?  Johnson played with DCU but in the final they won, terrible wether but he didn't play as well as Mortimer.  So will we miss him.   I don't think so.  Cahill is not a corner back.  He is a direct player and doesn't seem to have the "cuteness" required.  Should the postion be given to someone who plays there for their club.  The   ideal would be a Tony Sculion clone.  Re. the gunnar, he doesn't appear to be very glic witness coming back from america and expecting to play well the next day.  A management failure to allow him to start?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on June 19, 2007, 01:31:12 PM
Quote from: CC1 on June 19, 2007, 08:13:27 AM
Not so sure about Cian McDermott myself. He was very very quiet for Ballinagh in our game with them in the u21 championship last year. Podge Reilly was the only Ballinagh player the stood out and he was head and shoulders over everyone else on the pitch that day. Maybe McDermott just had an off day...

He had an off day alright CC1... he had an off the pitch day, he injured his cruciate ligament in the league semi-final and wasn't fit to play.

Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on June 18, 2007, 09:03:36 PM
McInerney is a class act no doubt,Put him in at Cornerback on the county and forget about that position for 5-10 yearss

The issue with McInerney is that he feels he'd be codding himself going in to the senior panel, that he would not be able for it. He's finished college now so maybe somebody might be able to persuade him to give it a shot.

Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on June 18, 2007, 09:03:36 PM
As for Cian McDermott
i seen him playing for Ballinagh under 21's against our lot,in November 2005,He played the field,outfielding Cullivan and Conor Lyons with ease it seemed,we dragged out our Full Back to spoil him then after 25 minutes,but the damage was already done,i thought he was a certainty for County Under 21's 06 after seeing that.
Shame he doesnt have the interest.

Remember that game too BhaiseMan, we started with McInerney CHB, Gaynor and McDermott MF, and Podge CHF. I recall thinking at the time it must have been one of the strongest u21 diamond formations in the country.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Maximus Marillius on June 19, 2007, 01:33:50 PM
QuoteRemember that game too BhaiseMan, we started with McInerney CHB, Gaynor and McDermott MF, and Podge CHF. I recall thinking at the time it must have been one of the strongest u21 diamond formations in the country

Only in Cavan would ye think that shite....that sentance tells all that is wrong with Cavan football...when are ye going to realise ye are shite...and do something from u6s up to bring change! Ye are unreal!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on June 19, 2007, 01:39:57 PM
Quote from: Maximus Marillius on June 19, 2007, 01:33:50 PM
QuoteRemember that game too BhaiseMan, we started with McInerney CHB, Gaynor and McDermott MF, and Podge CHF. I recall thinking at the time it must have been one of the strongest u21 diamond formations in the country

Only in Cavan would ye think that shite....that sentance tells all that is wrong with Cavan football...when are ye going to realise ye are shite...and do something from u6s up to bring change! Ye are unreal!

someones cranky  :D Bellaghy not win in that McGlinchy cup thing last night then Max?  ;)  i do read the Derry thread once in a while to see you lot bitching at each other.  ;D

Far be it for me to be defending Ballinagh,as we have killed each other at all levels over the last 5 years on and off the pitch  :D

But that was one hell of an under 21 team alright.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on June 19, 2007, 01:50:18 PM
Quote from: Maximus Marillius on June 19, 2007, 01:33:50 PM
QuoteRemember that game too BhaiseMan, we started with McInerney CHB, Gaynor and McDermott MF, and Podge CHF. I recall thinking at the time it must have been one of the strongest u21 diamond formations in the country

Only in Cavan would ye think that shite....that sentance tells all that is wrong with Cavan football...when are ye going to realise ye are shite...and do something from u6s up to bring change! Ye are unreal!

I did mean at club level Max and i just meant those central 4 players, its only IMHO but McInerney, Gaynor and Podge were key players in the Cavan u21 team that year that would have beaten Down in the Ulster-final but for Gaynor losing the head and leaving us a man down after 15 mins.

but cheers for that input.  ::)

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Maximus Marillius on June 19, 2007, 02:03:01 PM
Thanks lads, try to get a bite...but ye kept ur heads :-* :D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on June 19, 2007, 02:55:26 PM
Try the Armagh or Tyrone threads Max, plenty of snappers over there

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Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Hollow Man on June 19, 2007, 03:39:44 PM
QuoteRemember that game too BhaiseMan, we started with McInerney CHB, Gaynor and McDermott MF, and Podge CHF. I recall thinking at the time it must have been one of the strongest u21 diamond formations in the country

Only in Cavan would ye think that shite....that sentance tells all that is wrong with Cavan football...when are ye going to realise ye are shite...and do something from u6s up to bring change! Ye are unreal!

Lads I know this boy was on a wind up but I agree. That's some pile of shite, with all due respect.

McInerney is a very solid player but too small in my opinion. Gaynor and Podge, fair enough, both had played in the Ulster senior championship, but McDermott is unproven at Cavn senior championship level, let alone Ulster. He's unproven at any level whatsoever for Cavan actually!

McInerney and McDermott are very good club players but the fatc that someone here (Homer?) excused two poor McDermott performances on the basis that he was marking inter county standard players (McCabe and Crowe) tells it's own story.

Crowe absolutely cleaned him out in Lacken that evening, although I would like to see McDermott go in to see what he has to offer, he could well make the step up but the jury is out...

What Max says is true, we're absolutely useless at every level of football and hurling and the stats back this up. Minors, Under 21s and seniors gone at the first round again this year - I wouldnt mind but the old hard luck stories of losing by a point to the team who wins the AI don't ring true either; Down minors and seniors were both beaten next time out, and Monaghan Under 21s couldn't get out of Ulster, beaten by a Down team who were themsleves dispatches next time out.

If Cavan football were a racehorse, there'd be so many lines of form running against us that we'd be 100/1 shots every day out!

PS Just thought of another - Ros, who we all said were class (brilliant massive midfield, nippy forwards etc), lost to Sligo. I mean, Sligo!!!

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on June 19, 2007, 04:57:45 PM
Ger Heneghan absolutely destroyed Anthony Forde at full forward,what did he do against Sligo? f**k all

Cathal Cregg?? destroyed Gunner at wing forward,and was annointed Roscommons next great hope,
He done sweet f**k all against Sligo either.

Finneran and O Neil made a show of us in the midfield area in Croker,

O Hara and Quinn showed them up to be what they were,two statues, who can catch a decent ball alright.

we now know in hindsight,That night showed more of the deficiencies of Our team than Rossies brilliance.

As for the naming of McInerney and McDermott as possible countymen,Its speculation i started because i was conversing with a Ballinagh GFC player/member,I dont know what club you are from HM?  ;) if i did,id be debating what players from your club should be getting a chance at the county set-up.I often have the same debates with Drungman C4ever.

Its boring this time of the year,No county games and now club championships.we need something to post about.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on June 19, 2007, 06:09:23 PM
Quote from: Hollow Man on June 19, 2007, 03:39:44 PM
QuoteRemember that game too BhaiseMan, we started with McInerney CHB, Gaynor and McDermott MF, and Podge CHF. I recall thinking at the time it must have been one of the strongest u21 diamond formations in the country

Only in Cavan would ye think that shite....that sentance tells all that is wrong with Cavan football...when are ye going to realise ye are shite...and do something from u6s up to bring change! Ye are unreal!

Lads I know this boy was on a wind up but I agree. That's some pile of shite, with all due respect.

McInerney is a very solid player but too small in my opinion. Gaynor and Podge, fair enough, both had played in the Ulster senior championship, but McDermott is unproven at Cavn senior championship level, let alone Ulster. He's unproven at any level whatsoever for Cavan actually!

McInerney and McDermott are very good club players but the fatc that someone here (Homer?) excused two poor McDermott performances on the basis that he was marking inter county standard players (McCabe and Crowe) tells it's own story.

Crowe absolutely cleaned him out in Lacken that evening, although I would like to see McDermott go in to see what he has to offer, he could well make the step up but the jury is out...

What Max says is true, we're absolutely useless at every level of football and hurling and the stats back this up. Minors, Under 21s and seniors gone at the first round again this year - I wouldnt mind but the old hard luck stories of losing by a point to the team who wins the AI don't ring true either; Down minors and seniors were both beaten next time out, and Monaghan Under 21s couldn't get out of Ulster, beaten by a Down team who were themsleves dispatches next time out.

I made the above statement in reference to the players, their form and my opinion of them at that time. Nothing to do with what has happened since HM.

Whatever about it having a bearing now, I don't believe that McInerney's size was that much of a factor at u21 level.

I agree that McDermott is the weak player in the 4 but again you're using present day arguments against the fella. But just to clarify I did mention that those two matches occurred during exam time which can fairly knock the stuffing out of anybody (Well actually the Gowna game was played just aprés exams, so you can make your own mind up on that one   :P).

Having said all that, I know it was a bit rich to come out with a statement like that. I don't think we were world beaters or anything  ;)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on June 22, 2007, 01:44:24 PM
Any news anyone????
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on June 24, 2007, 06:20:37 PM
Just f**kin perfect

a Trip to Castlebar was  about the last thing we wanted.  >:(
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on June 24, 2007, 09:02:46 PM
Division Two seems exciting CC1,
Redhills were flying a few weeks ago now they arent even top 4? right? lost by a point to Ballymachugh who seem to be going well themselves
Very close up there.

a few other shocks,Drumalee beat Ballinagh 0-8 to 0-6 in Ballinagh

we beat Denn 0-12 to 1-05 in Div 1
and drew 2-04 apiece in Div 4.

Gowna only beat Kingscourt by a point 1-12 to 1-11.

Gaels matches in Div 1,3 and 4 were all called off.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on June 25, 2007, 09:06:56 AM
Quote from: CC1 on June 24, 2007, 09:34:30 AM
We lost to Drung by two or three points, despite scoring three goals (one absolute clanger by James Reilly, who had a very poor game by his standards). We missed too many (6 or 7) very scorable frees which cost us the game along with some very questionable decisions from the referee in Drung's favour in the first half. He improved in the second half and allowed the game to flow and it was a good end to end game of football. Drung made more use of the ball than we did and they duely punished us with it. We will now have to pick ourselves up for the big derby against Drumgoon.

We were missing our county star aswell  ;) .  Use missed way to much CC1 but your not gonna win many games when opposition scores 18 points.  James Reilly wasn't great but the defence did him no favours for two of the goals. 
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: shotstopper1 on June 25, 2007, 10:39:33 AM
Quotea few other shocks,Drumalee beat Ballinagh 0-8 to 0-6 in Ballinagh

Did Ballinagh not beat Drumalee by a point?

Mullahoran bt Drumlane
Lacken v CuCu's draw
Gowna bt Kingscourt

Good win for Ballyhaise, heard Denn failed to register a score (or even a wide) in the second half !!!

Div 1 Table
Team                  P.          Points
Cavan Gaels         7             13
Crosserlough         7             12
Ballinagh              8              11
Gowna                8              11
Castlerahan          7               9
Mullahoran           8               8
Denn                  8               8
Drumalee             8               8
Cuchullains           8               7
Belturbet             7               6
Lacken                8               6
Ballyhaise             8              5
Drumlane             8              2
Kingscourt            8              2
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on June 25, 2007, 11:31:19 AM
That referee is a fool we had him before and he blows stupid frees and lets more serious things go.  There was a couple of dodgy decisions for both teams.   Don't know what the story with Galligan was he wasn't missed anyway becasue Alan Curran is twice the footballer he is. 
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on June 25, 2007, 12:37:18 PM
shotstopper

i read the Drumalee result off Aertal,apologies if its wrong.

Denn got into the Ballyhaise half i think 4 times in the second half,

Ray Cullivan just dominated everything at Centrefield...alongside him Conor Lyons was very good aswell.
Barry Kelly also outstanding at Wing Back,suprised Keoghan hasnt been in touch with Gunner going to bring him back in,after he left due to injury.

In reality how we only won by 4 is beyond me,when we had 90+ percent of the play the second half.

Denn didnt look at all fit or sharp,which is suprising with only 6/7 weeks to go until championship time,although it could be that they are undergoing the traditional pre championship heavy training at the moment.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on June 25, 2007, 01:36:29 PM
Quote from: Thastheball on June 25, 2007, 01:08:16 PM
I see Martin Mc Elkennon is now in an Ulster final with Monaghan. the Irish news is raving a bout the conditioning of the Monaghan players. Maybe our players are the problem ;)

The attitude of the players is a big problem.  They were supposed to be off the drink this weekend but i seen 3 of them out drinking on saturday night.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on June 25, 2007, 02:55:50 PM
Indeed every Monaghan Player was in peak physical condition,and were as asharp a team as ive seen in this years championship
McElkennon has even got Rory Woods into good condition FFS,They guy isnt carrying too much bodyfat by the looks of him.

Compare that to the Cavan shambles of overweight players.Why is it tolerated in Cavan and nowhere else?it should not matter who the player is and how good he is,if hes not fit or has too much weight on,he should be dumped off the panel.

C4ever
i dont doubt it,
Two weeks before championship football and out on the lash.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Cavanfan on June 25, 2007, 04:35:47 PM
Look I don't doubt that there were players out at the wend! But were they all on the beer and can u be sure about that? If the were more fools them, they go mental when they lose and they can't understand why!! Maybe it is because of these beer session two weeks before games.

I think it's unfortunate that some players do this as there are players completely dedicated to the cause of the Cavan football scene and they will never progress unless all the panel get their act together.

Was the manager on the beer all weekend too? If so this is a bit of a bad example. I know these players are old enough but if u see your manager falling around drunk it leads players astray! Anyway that's only my opinion.

Maybe we can get some dignity back against Mayo, we did beat them in a challenge, while the compition will be diff I think it may be an advantage to us, once the players don't believe the hype that they can beat them two times in a rowi.e sure we beat them a few weeks ago we can do it again. Hopefully for the next two week they will get their heads down do the work needed!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on June 25, 2007, 04:44:56 PM
Quote from: Cavanfan on June 25, 2007, 04:35:47 PM
Look I don't doubt that there were players out at the wend! But were they all on the beer and can u be sure about that?

Two of them were anyway, as for the other it would be strange if he wasn't .   Anyways hopefully they will give Mayo a good game !!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on June 25, 2007, 06:28:11 PM
Quote from: Thastheball on June 25, 2007, 01:08:16 PM
I see Martin Mc Elkennon is now in an Ulster final with Monaghan. the Irish news is raving a bout the conditioning of the Monaghan players. Maybe our players are the problem ;)

Dead right. Nobody could ever question McElkennon's credentials as a trainer, it's just that he didn't have the wherewithal to be a manager and impose the necessary discipline to make sure everybody adhered to his training regime. When Coleman was calling the shots in the dressing room and Marty was doing the training only, we went practically 70 minutes in Clones against Armagh, with 14 men, and should have won.

It's too bloody right the players that are the problem.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on June 27, 2007, 08:20:59 AM
Cavan 0-13 Fermanagh 1-9  last nite in Breffini

It could have been a draw either someone else had it 0-12 to 1-9

1. James Reilly
2. Michael Hannon
3. Dermot Sheridan
4. Keith Fannin
5. Eamon Reilly
6. Johnny Crowe
7. Martin Reilly
8. Dermot McCabe
9. Nick Walsh
10. Michael Brennan
11. Anthony Forde
12. Cian Mackey
13. Jason Reilly
14. Mark Mckeever
15. Ger Pierson

Jason went off injured after 10 minutes and lyng came on for him.  Lyng didn't come out for the second half and Sean Brady came on for him and he played quiet well at Full Forward.  Very poor in first half and improved slighly in second half.  Is Cullivan injured Ballyhaiseman??
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on June 27, 2007, 11:13:31 AM
That's two challenges in a row we've had Sheridan at fullback. Fingers crossed he holds it together if he's there against Mayo.

I know Mackey did well against mayo some weeks ago but I'd be worried he'll totally disappear in a championship battle in Castlebar, if he's started, and it looks like he will with Johnston - he of the rousing point celebrations and jersey-clutching, remember - out banking a few dollars.

Ah sure all we can do is wait and see what happens.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: the Deel Rover on June 27, 2007, 11:21:25 AM
Quote from: cavanmaniac on June 27, 2007, 11:13:31 AM
That's two challenges in a row we've had Sheridan at fullback. Fingers crossed he holds it together if he's there against Mayo.

I know Mackey did well against mayo some weeks ago but I'd be worried he'll totally disappear in a championship battle in Castlebar, if he's started, and it looks like he will with Johnston - he of the rousing point celebrations and jersey-clutching, remember - out banking a few dollars.

Ah sure all we can do is wait and see what happens.

Cavanmaniac Come down for the match and have a few pints of porter in Johnny Mc Hales and let the best team win
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on June 27, 2007, 12:23:43 PM
I'd like nothing better, have family and friends in Claremorris and all, but won't make Castlebar I'm afraid. I've gotten to more Ulster SFC games this year than ever before and then the weekend of a Cavan game, I'm tied up. Typical!

I'll just have to rely on the sagely publishings of Cavan4ever, Ballyhaiseman, thatstheball etc. as well as yon reprobate anglocelt39 who I expect will wake up and post his opinion on the game fairly soon. ;)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on June 27, 2007, 04:26:25 PM
Quote from: cavanmaniac on June 27, 2007, 12:23:43 PM
I'd like nothing better, have family and friends in Claremorris and all, but won't make Castlebar I'm afraid. I've gotten to more Ulster SFC games this year than ever before and then the weekend of a Cavan game, I'm tied up. Typical!

I'll just have to rely on the sagely publishings of Cavan4ever, Ballyhaiseman, thatstheball etc. as well as yon reprobate anglocelt39 who I expect will wake up and post his opinion on the game fairly soon. ;)

Not sure if i will make it myself have to much going on at the moment with weddings and stags but im sure it would be a good weekends craic for anyone who is staying over.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on June 27, 2007, 05:07:37 PM
Quote from: cavan4ever on June 27, 2007, 08:20:59 AM
Cavan 0-13 Fermanagh 1-9  last nite in Breffini

It could have been a draw either someone else had it 0-12 to 1-9

1. James Reilly
2. Michael Hannon
3. Dermot Sheridan
4. Keith Fannin
5. Eamon Reilly
6. Johnny Crowe
7. Martin Reilly
8. Dermot McCabe
9. Nick Walsh
10. Michael Brennan
11. Anthony Forde
12. Cian Mackey
13. Jason Reilly
14. Mark Mckeever
15. Ger Pierson

Jason went off injured after 10 minutes and lyng came on for him.  Lyng didn't come out for the second half and Sean Brady came on for him and he played quiet well at Full Forward.  Very poor in first half and improved slighly in second half.  Is Cullivan injured Ballyhaiseman??

Cullivan took a knock on either his knee or ankle,not sure against Denn,im sure they just didnt risk him in a challenge match,he had a stormer for us and is in good form.
Has been flying in both club and (county training aswell so ive heard).
whats the deal with Martin Reily a wing back and Brennan, a wing forward,Perhaps he will line out like this in order to try and Confuse Mayo...with them switching before throw-in  ???

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on June 27, 2007, 05:33:11 PM
More to the point, how did Sheridan do at full-back? Is he the makings of a decent number 3 and could he handle the aerial prowess of Austin O'Malley?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on June 27, 2007, 05:36:07 PM
hes not terribely big CM,i think hed be more at home in the corner.a very good man marker and hard as nails as you would expect any Mullahoran man to be.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on June 28, 2007, 08:12:45 AM
Cullivan took a knock on either his knee or ankle,not sure against Denn,im sure they just didnt risk him in a challenge match,he had a stormer for us and is in good form.
Has been flying in both club and (county training aswell so ive heard).
whats the deal with Martin Reily a wing back and Brennan, a wing forward,Perhaps he will line out like this in order to try and Confuse Mayo...with them switching before throw-in 

I dunno thats 2 games Martin Reilly has played at wing-back and the other nite he played quiet well, he seem to be a good tackler.  If cullivan and Mulvey are fit can't see brennan starting.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on June 28, 2007, 08:15:57 AM
Quote from: cavan4ever on June 28, 2007, 08:12:45 AM
Cullivan took a knock on either his knee or ankle,not sure against Denn,im sure they just didnt risk him in a challenge match,he had a stormer for us and is in good form.
Has been flying in both club and (county training aswell so ive heard).
whats the deal with Martin Reily a wing back and Brennan, a wing forward,Perhaps he will line out like this in order to try and Confuse Mayo...with them switching before throw-in 

I dunno thats 2 games Martin Reilly has played at wing-back and the other nite he played quiet well, he seem to be a good tackler.  If cullivan and Mulvey are fit can't see brennan starting.

I wish they would play Mckeever at Wing back it my opinion it is his best postion and he would get in for breaks at midfield and drive forward.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Barney on June 28, 2007, 08:17:01 AM
Quoteand could he handle the aerial prowess of Austin O'Malley?
:o
:D

Said I'd have a spy lads. If ye are worried about Austie ye'd want to line-up some new scouts
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: The Bottom Brick on June 28, 2007, 09:53:39 AM
Cavan drew with Fermanagh, I heard ref Eugene Murtagh tell Mulgrew when he was coming that it was 1-9 to 0-12, same score as I had and those around me...

Although to be fair, there were no umpires in second half so it was sometimes hard to tell what the ref was givin unless you watched closely the kickout position...

Brennan won't start at all I wouldn't say, Larry and Sean Brady and Lyng would be ahead of him in the forwards and Forde/Martin Reilly in the half back line

Walsh was dire the other night, he looks more like a number 5 in rugby than an inter county midfielder

Martin Reilly v good, Sean Brady was excellent when he came on too.

Like Forde at 11, did well when he wasn't ass-raping the ref over things like lineballs  ;)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: shotstopper1 on June 28, 2007, 10:35:53 AM
Just a theory, but Cullivan played well for Ballyhaise at the w/e v Denn, a game Keoghan was at, and they may be thinking of playing him at FF v Mayo.He'd be still a bit of an unknown quanity to Mayo,as he played his worst half of football for Cavan in the drawn Down game and didn't feature in the replay.Doubtful if Mayo were watching too many of the league games other than the Roscommon game.Cavan showed their hand with Martin Reilly in the challenge game v Mayo (don't think Cullivan featured in that)and therefore may be keeping Cullivan under wraps for the moment.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Davitt Man on June 28, 2007, 10:38:46 AM
I heard about a lad from Ballyconnell a few years ago Colin O Hara, i heard he impressed in a few challenge games but then just disappeared off the scene. What happened him
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on June 28, 2007, 10:42:17 AM
Quote from: The Bottom Brick on June 28, 2007, 09:53:39 AM


Walsh was dire the other night, he looks more like a number 5 in rugby than an inter county midfielder

Martin Reilly v good, Sean Brady was excellent when he came on too.


Walsh was getting up higher than his man most of the time for the kickouts but instead of putting his two hands up to catch the ball he was at his usual fisting the ball away or flicking it.  I never seen him play before he went to australia but could he catch a ball back then?  Id say Sean Brady will start the next day at least he isn't afraid to shoot and is accurate most of the time.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Stagmeister on June 28, 2007, 04:05:19 PM
Quote from: Davitt Man on June 28, 2007, 10:38:46 AM
I heard about a lad from Ballyconnell a few years ago Colin O Hara, i heard he impressed in a few challenge games but then just disappeared off the scene. What happened him

He's a great footballer alright, very talented midfielder just dont know if he has it upstairs...few sandwiches short of a picnic if ya now what I mean.
He's playing his football down in Kildare this year with Allenwood...supposed to be playing great stuff too, I heard from a reliable source that he was approached to join up with the senior panel back around january or february however he turned down the opportunity citing drinking committments and also the fact that his tourrets condition, which he was diagnosed with a couple of years ago is said to be worsening.

Also, his Daddy, Inspector O'Hara, has been putting pressure on him to switch his allegiance to the lilywhites...so dont be surprised if you see him lining out for the flourbags in the next year or two, he'd be a perfect replacement for Dermot Earley

WATCH THIS SPACE!!!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Davitt Man on June 28, 2007, 04:12:23 PM
Quote from: Stagmeister on June 28, 2007, 04:05:19 PM
Quote from: Davitt Man on June 28, 2007, 10:38:46 AM
I heard about a lad from Ballyconnell a few years ago Colin O Hara, i heard he impressed in a few challenge games but then just disappeared off the scene. What happened him

He's a great footballer alright, very talented midfielder just dont know if he has it upstairs...few sandwiches short of a picnic if ya now what I mean.
He's playing his football down in Kildare this year with Allenwood...supposed to be playing great stuff too, I heard from a reliable source that he was approached to join up with the senior panel back around january or february however he turned down the opportunity citing drinking committments and also the fact that his tourrets condition, which he was diagnosed with a couple of years ago is said to be worsening.

Also, his Daddy, Inspector O'Hara, has been putting pressure on him to switch his allegiance to the lilywhites...so dont be surprised if you see him lining out for the flourbags in the next year or two, he'd be a perfect replacement for Dermot Earley

WATCH THIS SPACE!!!

Another case of a player switching counties, this is getting out of hand now.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Hollow Man on June 28, 2007, 04:28:20 PM
Quote
Walsh was getting up higher than his man most of the time for the kickouts but instead of putting his two hands up to catch the ball he was at his usual fisting the ball away or flicking it

was at the game as well the other night, at one stage Walsh got up and kept his hands by his side! Looked like he was going up for a header!!

good and bad points to take from it

Their goal was a shocker, walked through

One other thing:

As they say in Hot Press....CIAN MACKEY HAS BECOME A PASTICHE OF HIMSELF!

I thought nobody could run past a man, and instead of tapping ober, put the head down and go past another, then another and then kick it up in the air from the corner flag at least once every game, then I saw Mackey! Few classics the other night again...
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on June 28, 2007, 04:38:28 PM
Lets hope he does it tonight aswell as we are playing them in Ballyjamesduff  :D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Stagmeister on June 29, 2007, 11:00:49 AM
Anyone at the KingsCourt Stars game last night...heard they beat cavan gaels by a goal, great win for them
Apparently its between themselves, Ballyhaise and someone else to go down - with two teams going down

I have a mate from kingscourt who reckons they should stay up now and is even tipping them to get to the championship final and possibly win it!!

Realistically have they any chance of winning the championship or is this fella talkin through his hole???
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on June 29, 2007, 11:37:38 AM
I heard from a fairly reliable source that Kieran McDonald is out of the Cavan game. Anyone else hear that.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Davitt Man on June 29, 2007, 11:48:34 AM
Quote from: Stagmeister on June 29, 2007, 11:00:49 AM
is this fella talkin through his hole???

Talking through his hole i reckon Stagmeister, sure he reckons that kingscourt will win all there remaining league games even though they couldnt buy a win all season!!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Davitt Man on June 29, 2007, 12:23:40 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on June 29, 2007, 11:37:38 AM
I heard from a fairly reliable source that Kieran McDonald is out of the Cavan game. Anyone else hear that.

Ciaran and not "Kieran" is more than likely out of this game he pulled his hamstring during the week
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: CC1 on June 29, 2007, 12:38:43 PM
Quote from: Davitt Man on June 29, 2007, 11:48:34 AM
Quote from: Stagmeister on June 29, 2007, 11:00:49 AM
is this fella talkin through his hole???

Talking through his hole i reckon Stagmeister, sure he reckons that kingscourt will win all there remaining league games even though they couldnt buy a win all season!!
In fairness, their whole first team were out injured at stages this season. No team could cope with their injury problems. I believe that they are just getting back to normal now with only Alan Clarke out with a broken leg.

We lost to the Goonies last night after going in at the break 0-11 to 0-03 up and completely in control of the game. They came out in the second half with Hannon and Fannin in the full forward line. We went completely asleep in the second half and won about two balls in midfield in the second half which ultimately lost us the game. Fannin scoring at least 1-5 and Hannon scoring 0-2. Shercock 0-12, Drumgoon 1-13.  :(
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on June 29, 2007, 12:42:44 PM
Quote from: Davitt Man on June 29, 2007, 12:23:40 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on June 29, 2007, 11:37:38 AM
I heard from a fairly reliable source that Kieran McDonald is out of the Cavan game. Anyone else hear that.

Ciaran and not "Kieran" is more than likely out of this game he pulled his hamstring during the week

It won't make much difference anyway. 
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on June 29, 2007, 01:03:30 PM
Quote from: cavan4ever on June 29, 2007, 12:42:44 PM
Quote from: Davitt Man on June 29, 2007, 12:23:40 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on June 29, 2007, 11:37:38 AM
I heard from a fairly reliable source that Kieran McDonald is out of the Cavan game. Anyone else hear that.

Ciaran and not "Kieran" is more than likely out of this game he pulled his hamstring during the week

It won't make much difference anyway. 

What are you on about. A "C" or a "K" could be the winning or losing of this game!!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on June 29, 2007, 02:17:53 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on June 29, 2007, 01:03:30 PM
Quote from: cavan4ever on June 29, 2007, 12:42:44 PM
Quote from: Davitt Man on June 29, 2007, 12:23:40 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on June 29, 2007, 11:37:38 AM
I heard from a fairly reliable source that Kieran McDonald is out of the Cavan game. Anyone else hear that.

Ciaran and not "Kieran" is more than likely out of this game he pulled his hamstring during the week

It won't make much difference anyway. 

What are you on about. A "C" or a "K" could be the winning or losing of this game!!

Sorry i know that the "C" or "K" are very important  :D :D .

What i meant is i don't think it will make any differance if he plays or not.

Players Cavan will be missing or likely missing,
Sean Johnston
Paul Brady
Martin Cahill
Larry Reilly (shoulder)
Mickey Lyng (Hamstring)
Jason Reilly (Hamsting)
Ciarain Galligan (not sure)

Apparently Aaron Donohoe is back as sub goalkeeper.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on June 29, 2007, 04:07:08 PM
F**k it with Kingscourt winning
we got well beaten by Castlerahan last night, 6 or 7 point sin it in the end.

we went 1-3 to no score up,then Castlerahan brought on Flanagan,and he played the field,magnificant,at MIDFIELD as well,he even outfielded McCrudden once ::)

Sean Brady, outstanding at full forward,kicked id say 0-4 or 0-5

Mackey scored the goal,but was kept very quiet by Fergal Slowey.

for us,Ray Cullivan was missing,
Eamon Costello,kicked over 3 or 4 marvelous points,but we were never in the 2nd half.
will go into more detail if asked,but other than that cant be arsed.

Kingscourt could give the championship a good run,They were without a ridiculous amount of players,
No Club team with possible exception the Gaels could cope with the players they had out missing.

Im in a bad mood over last nights match btw,so if you see some angry posts by me on the board,you will know why  >:(  :D

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: CC1 on June 29, 2007, 04:24:02 PM
Quote from: CC1 on June 29, 2007, 12:38:43 PM
Quote from: Davitt Man on June 29, 2007, 11:48:34 AM
Quote from: Stagmeister on June 29, 2007, 11:00:49 AM
is this fella talkin through his hole???

Talking through his hole i reckon Stagmeister, sure he reckons that kingscourt will win all there remaining league games even though they couldnt buy a win all season!!
In fairness, their whole first team were out injured at stages this season. No team could cope with their injury problems. I believe that they are just getting back to normal now with only Alan Clarke out with a broken leg.

We lost to the Goonies last night after going in at the break 0-11 to 0-03 up and completely in control of the game. They came out in the second half with Hannon and Fannin in the full forward line. We went completely asleep in the second half and won about two balls in midfield in the second half which ultimately lost us the game. Fannin scoring at least 1-5 and Hannon scoring 0-2. Shercock 0-12, Drumgoon 1-13.  :(
Correction, looks like Toastie was back for the Gaels game last night, he got one of the goals that made the difference on the night. I feel your pain BM, its just sickening to be up by so much and just lose a game like that... :(
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on June 29, 2007, 04:29:08 PM
Flanagan is developing into a savage footballer altogether by the sounds of things. It's hard to bring that level to intercounty but can you imagine if he did?

Didn't hear about those injuries to Larry, Lyng and Jason but Galligan's no loss I have to say....
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on June 29, 2007, 04:33:34 PM
CC1 just read youse lost to Drumgoon after being 0-11 to 0-03 up,
jaysus,im sure ya feel worse than me so.Fannin is in good form i see,wouldnt mind seeing him as a half forward against Mayo,he seemingly can score.
Read on Hoganstand Drumlane beat Gowna,someone please tell me thats not true,or we are in deep sh*t altogether.

CManiac
Flanagan picked up an obscene amount of ball last night,he was everywhere.
Good from a county perspective that Flanagan and Brady looked very sharp,
Mackey was always going to get it hard to impress with Fergal Slowey man marking him.Slowey is an absolute nightmare to play against.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on June 29, 2007, 04:44:24 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on June 29, 2007, 04:33:34 PM
Mackey was always going to get it hard to impress with Fergal Slowey man marking him.Slowey is an absolute nightmare to play against.

Heard you on about this guy before. Did he ever get a chance with the county or what age of a chap is he? The more I read the contributions on here the more I think there's unheralded chaps like this lurking in clubs that the county broom never seems to sweep up and afford a chance to. Then again, people always think there's lads not on the panel that should be, might be wishful thinking but if we never try them we'll never know.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on June 29, 2007, 04:47:21 PM
hes small only about 5'7 or 5'8,Hes a brilliant footballer,his height is the only thing against him.
Played County at all levels underage and Under 21 this year,started against Rossies in last years Tommy Murphy Cup game aswell.
I still think despite his small stature,hes going to be a regular on the Cavan team from next year on.
some of you no doubt will disagree.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mannix on June 29, 2007, 07:32:02 PM
"Hes only 5 '7 or 5' 8 ".I am 5'9 and do not consider myself small.I am fairly fit and weigh 13 stone, am i small?wHAT DOES SMALL MEAN IN YOUR TERMS?
Marty Mc Nicholas is smaller than me, so is conor mort, dillon may be my height,noel connelly was about my height last time i was beside him.What is small these days?
Did anyone see the meath team recently?
Smallest starter against the dubs was 6 foot and about 13 stone, monsters or am i tiny?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on June 29, 2007, 08:10:46 PM
anything under 5'9 is small mannix,  :D i dodged that one  :D!!!You can get away with a few small forwards for sure,But not too many small backs,thats my opinion in modern day intercounty football
the Meath team is monstorous no doubt,not one member down the central positions under 6'2 and 14 stone...
No other intercounty team could compare in terms of height and weight id say,yet it didnt get them past Dublin.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on June 30, 2007, 01:15:31 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on June 29, 2007, 08:10:46 PM
anything under 5'9 is small mannix,  :D i dodged that one  :D!!!You can get away with a few small forwards for sure,But not too many small backs,thats my opinion in modern day intercounty football
the Meath team is monstorous no doubt,not one member down the central positions under 6'2 and 14 stone...
No other intercounty team could compare in terms of height and weight id say,yet it didnt get them past Dublin.


Meath are reverting back to their 'core' setup of old at the moment alright but aother huge team has to be Cork. Canty, Cussen, Kavanagh, Nicholas Murphy and a whole lot of other strapping lads. And with the enmity between the sides from Billy Morgan v Sean Boylan era, there'd be almighty walloping if these sides managed to meet in the championship this year. And then had to play Armagh or something. Ouch!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on July 02, 2007, 05:06:36 PM
Quote from: cavanmaniac on June 30, 2007, 01:15:31 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on June 29, 2007, 08:10:46 PM
anything under 5'9 is small mannix,  :D i dodged that one  :D!!!You can get away with a few small forwards for sure,But not too many small backs,thats my opinion in modern day intercounty football
the Meath team is monstorous no doubt,not one member down the central positions under 6'2 and 14 stone...
No other intercounty team could compare in terms of height and weight id say,yet it didnt get them past Dublin.


Meath are reverting back to their 'core' setup of old at the moment alright but aother huge team has to be Cork. Canty, Cussen, Kavanagh, Nicholas Murphy and a whole lot of other strapping lads. And with the enmity between the sides from Billy Morgan v Sean Boylan era, there'd be almighty walloping if these sides managed to meet in the championship this year. And then had to play Armagh or something. Ouch!

Yeh - I see Meath are reverting back to their "core" alright, thuggery (see Geraghty booted of panel thread). Brings a tear to the eye ;)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on July 03, 2007, 12:41:01 PM
Poor old Golden Graham, eh? Great footballer but never lost his uncanny knack for pissing on his own chips.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Hollow Man on July 03, 2007, 10:29:04 PM
Hits the nail bang on the head!!!

http://www.cavanecho.com/pdf/pages/cav030.pdf


Although I still think we'll get a result this weekend (a positive result would be getting within 3/4 of Mayo). Wonder what the handicap is?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on July 03, 2007, 11:08:17 PM
Hollow man - meant to post that myself but forgot. It is a good piece and gives an insite into McElhennons opinions on why it didn't happen for him at Cavan - which until now have not been in the public arena. It is good to have some critical journalism in Cavan for a change.

The thread is gone very quiet here. Any of ye joining me in Castlebar on Saturday? I could be going mad but I reckon we have a chance as I think Mayo will almost certainly go into the game over confident - christ they went into the AI final last yr against kerry over confident if you ask me. So for me it is going to be Cavan by 2 points or Mayo by 10 points - I think which way it goes will be clear after 10 minutes of the match.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on July 04, 2007, 12:23:36 AM
Very good article, shame it's not a bit longer because if anything it could go further. Really refreshing to see some genuine analysis and critique in Cavan GAA media, long may it continue.

It'd be a cold day in hell before the see-no-evil-hear-no-evil Anglo Celt would produce anything like that.

And actually, fair play to McElkennon for not putting a tooth in it as well. The players have hid behind the supposed inadequacies of various managers and have largely got away with swinging the lead themselves. I'd hope the jettisoning of the Yankee day trippers mark the start of a no bullshit policy with players but I won't hold my breath.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on July 04, 2007, 12:09:06 PM
Here lads
i think "The Bottom Line" is one of us on here or he gets his stuff from us  :D
Not for the first time hes echoing  ;) the thoughts of all of us.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on July 04, 2007, 01:23:16 PM
Sigh, cover blown, so alright then, it's me.... ;D

I'm actually Eamon Gaffney in disguise and the Echo column is a covert side operation where I give vent to the opinions that are just TOO DAMN HOT for the Celt!

(Joking)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: shotstopper1 on July 04, 2007, 02:58:18 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on July 04, 2007, 12:09:06 PM
Here lads
i think "The Bottom Line" is one of us on here or he gets his stuff from us  :D
Not for the first time hes echoing  ;) the thoughts of all of us.



I'd say for "Bottom Line" read "Bottom Brick", similarity in the names,also from the same club.I may be wrong but what the hell, fair play to him for telling it like he sees it, and not as how the county board would like him to see it.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on July 04, 2007, 04:19:22 PM
CROABH CHOMÓRTAS 2007

Thursday, 26th July 2007 @ 8pm
Hotel Kilmore Intermediate Championship
Cootehill V Redhills
Venue:  Kingspan Breffni Park

Friday, 27th July 2007 @ 8pm
Hotel Kilmore Senior Championship
Drumalee V Ramor
Venue:  Lavey

Friday, 27th July 2007 @ 8pm
Hotel Kilmore Intermediate Championship
Ballinagh V Bailieboro
Venue:  Stradone
Drung V Drumlane
Venue:  Kingspan Breffni Park

Friday, 27th July 2007 @ 8pm
Hotel Kilmore Junior Championship
Arva V Maghera
Venue:  Ballymachugh
Butlersbridge V Mountnugent
Venue:  Killygarry

Saturday, 28th July 2007 @ 7.30pm
Hotel Kilmore Senior Championship
Knockbride V Killygarry
Venue:  Kingspan Breffni Park

Saturday, 28th July 2007 @ 7.30pm
Hotel Kilmore Intermediate Championship
Ballymachugh V Lavey
Venue:  Crosserlough




Saturday, 28th July 2007 @ 6pm
Hotel Kilmore Junior Championship
Shercock V Killeshandra
Venue: Kingspan Breffni Park

Saturday, 28th July 2007 @ 7.30pm
Hotel Kilmore Junior Championship
Munterconnacht V Templeport
Venue:  Lacken
Corlough V Cornafean
Venue:  Kildallon

Sunday, 29th July 2007 @ 12.30pm
Hotel Kilmore Senior Championship
Lacken V Belturbet
Venue:  Cornafean

Sunday, 29th July 2007 @ 2.15pm
Hotel Kilmore Senior Championship
Mullahoran V Denn
Venue:  Kingspan Breffni Park

Sunday, 29th July 2007 @ 3pm
Hotel Kilmore Senior Championship
Kingscourt V Cuchullains
Venue:  Bailieboro

Sunday, 29th July 2007 @ 3.45pm
Hotel Kilmore Senior Championship
Castlerahan V Crosserlough
Venue:  Kingspan Breffni Park

Sunday, 29th July 2007 @ 7.30pm
Hotel Kilmore Senior Championship
Gowna V Cavan Gaels
Venue:  Kingspan Breffni Park

Sunday, 29th July 2007 @ 3pm
Hotel Kilmore Intermediate Championship
Drumgoon V Kill
Venue:  Cootehill
Ballyhaise V Swadlinbar
Venue:  Drumlane

Laragh V Killinkere
Venue:  Drumalee

Sunday, 29th July 2007 @ 3pm
Hotel Kilmore Junior Championship
Kildallon V Shannon Gaels (Sunday 3pm)
Venue:  Templeport

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on July 04, 2007, 04:36:14 PM
Quote from: cavan4ever on July 04, 2007, 04:19:22 PM
CROABH CHOMÓRTAS 2007

Thursday, 26th July 2007 @ 8pm
Hotel Kilmore Intermediate Championship
Cootehill V Redhills
Venue:  Kingspan Breffni Park

Friday, 27th July 2007 @ 8pm
Hotel Kilmore Senior Championship
Drumalee V Ramor
Venue:  Lavey

Friday, 27th July 2007 @ 8pm
Hotel Kilmore Intermediate Championship
Ballinagh V Bailieboro
Venue:  Stradone
Drung V Drumlane
Venue:  Kingspan Breffni Park

Friday, 27th July 2007 @ 8pm
Hotel Kilmore Junior Championship
Arva V Maghera
Venue:  Ballymachugh
Butlersbridge V Mountnugent
Venue:  Killygarry

Saturday, 28th July 2007 @ 7.30pm
Hotel Kilmore Senior Championship
Knockbride V Killygarry
Venue:  Kingspan Breffni Park

Saturday, 28th July 2007 @ 7.30pm
Hotel Kilmore Intermediate Championship
Ballymachugh V Lavey
Venue:  Crosserlough




Saturday, 28th July 2007 @ 6pm
Hotel Kilmore Junior Championship
Shercock V Killeshandra
Venue: Kingspan Breffni Park

Saturday, 28th July 2007 @ 7.30pm
Hotel Kilmore Junior Championship
Munterconnacht V Templeport
Venue:  Lacken
Corlough V Cornafean
Venue:  Kildallon

Sunday, 29th July 2007 @ 12.30pm
Hotel Kilmore Senior Championship
Lacken V Belturbet
Venue:  Cornafean

Sunday, 29th July 2007 @ 2.15pm
Hotel Kilmore Senior Championship
Mullahoran V Denn
Venue:  Kingspan Breffni Park

Sunday, 29th July 2007 @ 3pm
Hotel Kilmore Senior Championship
Kingscourt V Cuchullains
Venue:  Bailieboro

Sunday, 29th July 2007 @ 3.45pm
Hotel Kilmore Senior Championship
Castlerahan V Crosserlough
Venue:  Kingspan Breffni Park

Sunday, 29th July 2007 @ 7.30pm
Hotel Kilmore Senior Championship
Gowna V Cavan Gaels
Venue:  Kingspan Breffni Park

Sunday, 29th July 2007 @ 3pm
Hotel Kilmore Intermediate Championship
Drumgoon V Kill
Venue:  Cootehill
Ballyhaise V Swadlinbar
Venue:  Drumlane

Laragh V Killinkere
Venue:  Drumalee

Sunday, 29th July 2007 @ 3pm
Hotel Kilmore Junior Championship
Kildallon V Shannon Gaels (Sunday 3pm)
Venue:  Templeport



right what shall i attend that weekend

Thursday Cootehill,Redhills

Friday
Drung V dRUMLANE

Saturday
shercock/Killeshandra

Knockbride.Kilygarry double header in Breffini

Sunday

Playing against Swad in Drumlane at 3

will go and see Gowna/Gaels game

jaysus il be fair and broke after that weekend.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on July 04, 2007, 04:43:58 PM
jaysus il be fair and broke after that weekend

i do have a card from 2006 that the club referee gave me it's great for championship time  ;D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on July 05, 2007, 01:02:22 PM
Seen this on Hoganstand the last bit is good.

Idont think we have a half decent full back in the county.We havent had on since Damien O Reilly and before that Dermot Dalton in the mid 70s.Successive Team Managers dont seem to want to address the problem.Its allways left to the last minute.Itake your point about the 6ft+ Mayo full forward.that seems to be the trend this year as Cork and Kerry showed last Sunday.Kick the high ball into the tall full forward and he wins it and is able to take his score or he lays it off.Worked well last Sunday.Even GCanty of Cork was made look ordinary at times and he is one of the better full backs.Maybe if Mayo use this tactic on Saturday putting McCabe in there even for a short space of time i.e. Cavan playing against the wind would be an option.Iknow he is needed elsewhere but we dont have anyone else to contest a high ball.maybe N Walsh?We need a clean catcher in the square to ease the treat of the high ball.
RICHIE , london , 05/07/2007 at 12:04

That would be a night mare  but i think were safe enough what we have isn't great but no point in making things worse .
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: shotstopper1 on July 05, 2007, 03:37:36 PM
Cavan v Mayo
J Reilly; M Hannon, D Sheridan, K Fannin; R Flanagan, J Crowe, M Reilly; D McCabe, N Walsh; R Cullivan, A Forde, M McKeever; J O'Reilly, S Brady, G Pearson.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on July 05, 2007, 09:50:51 PM
Quote from: cavanmaniac on June 27, 2007, 12:23:43 PM
I'd like nothing better, have family and friends in Claremorris and all, but won't make Castlebar I'm afraid. I've gotten to more Ulster SFC games this year than ever before and then the weekend of a Cavan game, I'm tied up. Typical!

I'll just have to rely on the sagely publishings of Cavan4ever, Ballyhaiseman, thatstheball etc. as well as yon reprobate anglocelt39 who I expect will wake up and post his opinion on the game fairly soon. ;)


Out of circulation for a while Maniac, just back in and finding it hard in the land of exile to get excited about this one. This whole six week break for defeated teams before the qualifiers makes it all difficult to predict what the state of minds of the teams will be. Hope we can put up a show and who knows, if that is the case the new management team will be claiming progress for the season. We've gone back a fair bit on where we were when the late Eamon Coleman was calling the shots with Marty providing backup doing what he does best. Discussions post the match will be interesting.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on July 05, 2007, 10:38:29 PM
Yeah I suppose promotion, bit of spirit shown against Down (but with the negatives of poor fitness in some quarters and bad decisions on sideline) isn't that great a return on the year if we lose to Mayo, but if we see the emergence of a few new contenders for the team to replace the outgoing Larry and Jason et al., then it might not have been too bad. The manner of the display will indicate alot as regards the new management's effectiveness and how worhty they are of serving their full term with genuine hope of progression next season and beyond.

I expect they'll give it a rattle and frighten Mayo but in the heel of the hunt, Cavan teams are too often content with the moral victory.

Johnny Crowe, Ronan Flanagan, hopefully Dermot Sheridan and Martin Reilly would all be new players unearthed from the end of the Marty era, while Hannon, Lyng, Fannin etc. are all young yet, so that's not too bad I guess. But it's all ifs buts and maybes isn't it?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: trim blue on July 05, 2007, 11:29:35 PM
No Lyng, what do you make of that chaps ???
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on July 06, 2007, 10:59:37 AM
I think he was injured in the recent challenge against Fermanagh and hasn't been able to tain, hamstring I think.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: trim blue on July 06, 2007, 10:37:04 PM
Cheers maniac, only now saw earlier posts where it was mentioned...
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on July 06, 2007, 11:09:44 PM
Not sure yet if im going to Castlebar,can be assured of a full report Sunday if im there.

so Gallagher for Jason.

At least someone who can kick the ball off the ground,
Sean Brady is a very good player,but a free kick specialist he is not,another point of sh**y preparation for the Down game.
He has to contribute from play though,something he hasnt done in the county shirt much this year.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on July 07, 2007, 11:34:54 AM
Will the game be on any internet radio station where I can listen to commentary?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on July 07, 2007, 12:34:24 PM
Quote from: Denn Forever on July 07, 2007, 11:34:54 AM
Will the game be on any internet radio station where I can listen to commentary?

You can listen to the match on www.northernsound.ie - God help you!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on July 07, 2007, 03:02:00 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on July 07, 2007, 12:34:24 PM
Quote from: Denn Forever on July 07, 2007, 11:34:54 AM
Will the game be on any internet radio station where I can listen to commentary?

You can listen to the match on www.northernsound.ie - God help you!


And you can be assured of some mind expanding revelations of very limited relevance to the game in progress, such as the hairstyle adopted by the bold Beethoven the last time I tuned into a game there. Mere detail like the score at any given time, the number of minutes played, scorers etc. tend to be a bit more elusive.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on July 08, 2007, 11:08:28 PM
well that was erhm interesting yesterday in Castlebar.

1- 19 conceded is just great ::)
10 scores in 70 minutes of championship football is poor.

good thing about this year for me is the emergence of

Martin Reily
Dermot Sheridan(outstanding when he came on)
Jonathon Crowe
Ronan Flanagan(not good yesterday but will be a top class performer in future)

we still need to find

a full back
a centre half back

2 midfielders(Walsh was atrocious)

and play McCabe on the 40,i know he good yesterday,but i wonder how many more years he will have the legs for midfield.

and will someone please teach our inside forwards how to make decent runs please!!!
Jason and Larry should be impact subs in future no more.
Mark McKeever has been very poor in the championship this year.

Look for Paul Grimley to get the Armagh job and Julie Davis to join him as Fitness Trainer,
wouldnt be suprised if we are looking for a manager if that occurs,although id like to see them give it one more year.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: The Bottom Brick on July 09, 2007, 02:34:53 PM
Was very impressed with Martin Reilly

Walsh was class by his standards in my opinion (still only middling by inter county standard though). He actually caught a ball cleanly Saturday, I swear I haven't seen him do that in about 2 years

Agree about Flanagan, poor on Saturday but an amazing talent and applies himself too

McKeever has had a desperate year

Sheridan did well

McCabe was our best player on Saturday, as he is in 75% of our games.

Forde was too preoccupied with pestering the ref and ensuring that any 50/50 decsions would go Mayo's way

This management team don't fancy Pierson, his attitude stinks by all accounts, and he won't be there next year, mark my words...

Larry will hang up the boots too probably

The Bottom Line The Bottom Brick - jaysus lads you were scraping the barrell there!

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on July 09, 2007, 02:58:28 PM
Quote from: The Bottom Brick on July 09, 2007, 02:34:53 PM
This management team don't fancy Pierson, his attitude stinks by all accounts, and he won't be there next year, mark my words...

Heard this from more than one source. Practically has to be dragged to training and just can't be arsed putting it in. So typical of talented Cavan footballers in recent years, lazy and no dedication. Himself and McKeever have had two absolute stinkers of seasons.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Cromagh on July 09, 2007, 03:16:09 PM
You lads cudnt wait to get rid of McIlkennon & Cassidy last year.......u have done as bad this year......as both of them said...if the players dont want it, it wudnt matter if O'dwyer was in charge!!!!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: The Bottom Brick on July 09, 2007, 03:21:06 PM
Yippie ky ay motherfucker

Cromagh you think the nail on the head there!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Hollow Man on July 09, 2007, 03:28:03 PM
anyone got the link to the preview from the echo last week? six steps to beating mayo or something...

cant find the link on their site
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Cromagh on July 09, 2007, 03:28:39 PM
Exactly Brick.....McIlkennon got rid of him last year for same reason....he doesnt want county football enough, neither does pierson! Thats ok but you lads just keep throwing crazy money at outside men.......who wufdnt take the money......u need to start with u-16,s u-14's and breed the winning mentality and what it takes at this age!!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on July 09, 2007, 03:37:13 PM
Pierson has outstanding ability but is lazy in all aspects, he labours to the ball in games,and is often caught behind his man which is unacceptable for forwards at interCounty Level.
He never looks very fit so id also question how hard and often he trains.And reading the few last comments,im not alone there either.
Id respect the management alot more if they would do away with these type of players and get some in there who may not just have as much football ability but will be physically and mentally fit for championship football.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on July 09, 2007, 04:41:09 PM
After watching Sligo yesterday it just shows what can be done when players put in the effort.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on July 09, 2007, 05:42:03 PM
Predictions
Senior Championship

Drumalee V Ramor     - Ramor
Knockbride V Killygarry  -Killygarry
Lacken V Belturbet    -  draw with Belturbet winning replay
Mullahoran V Denn      -Mullahoran
Kingscourt V Cuchullains   -Kingscourt
Castlerahan V Crosserlough   -Crosserlough
Gowna V Cavan Gaels   - Cavan Gaels

Intermediate Championship
Cootehill V Redhills           -Redhills
Ballinagh V Baileboro        -Ballinagh
Drung V Drumlane          -Draw with Drumlane winning replay (sorry C4ever)
Ballymachugh V Lavey     -Lavey
Drumgoon V Kill             -Drumgoon
Ballyhaise V Swad          - Ballyhaise
Laragh V Killinkere         -Killinkere

Junior Championship
Arva V Maghera                         -Arva
B'bridge V Mountnugent           -Bridge
Shercock V Killeshandra              -Shercock although i fancy Killeshandra to be in contention come Sept/October aswell
M'Connacht V Templeport          -Munterconnacht
Corlough V Cornafean                -Cornafean
Kildallan V Shannon Gaels           -Killdallan
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on July 09, 2007, 10:20:55 PM
Quote from: cavan4ever on July 09, 2007, 04:41:09 PM
After watching Sligo yesterday it just shows what can be done when players put in the effort.

It reminds me of a favourite topic of mine; the need for a good, respected manager to put the right environment in place, followed by the buy-in of the players, and anything is possible.

We beat Sligo in the league and achieved promotion ahead of them but they've done better than us in the summer when it matters by dint of a determined, passionate manager who has a bunch of players willing to die for the shirt and who quite simply never give up. Cavan made some progress in this area this year but more is required. It just shows you what's possible with an inspirational manager in charge and all players pulling together for the cause and working like demons for a win.

A few of Cavan's players have lost sight of what it should mean to pull on the shirt and believe they own the jersey and it owes them, as opposed to being mere keepers of the flame on a temporary basis. The pride in our county, self belief and will to win we had under McHugh and last glimpsed under Coleman has shimmered away into thin air. The guys ducking off to the States said it all in that regard.

Cromagh is spot on about the need to start from scratch with the underage guys and instil a mentality of pride and determination in them, we're waiting on another 1997 to lift the whole scene when that logic is basically a case of putting the horse before the cart. It's the younger generations that can bring Cavan football back to health, not the other way around, and we must out our faith in them and leave no stone unturned until the dream is realised.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on July 09, 2007, 10:22:56 PM
04 and 05-competing creditably and hard at business end of the year against-Down, Armagh, Derry, Tyrone, Donegal, Meath and Mayo. 06 and 07 we won a sum total of ONE championship match at ANY level (Down minors last year). There are lads much closer to the action who can offer a view on this decline, from a distance was some of it related to the departure of the late Eamon Coleman. As far as I can see the Coleman/Marty team was the last time we had a structured management team in place where responsibilities were clear-Eamon-knew the game, knew Cavan football, took no shit from players or oficials and convinced young players they were good enough, backed up by a top class fitness coach.

One factor that can't be disputed is that in 06 and 07 we turned out teams that simply were not fit enough for championship football. Was it a case of player power kicking in once a man of Eamon's stature was out of the way?

What's really frustrating is that with a top class management structure in place we should have been in a position to do something this year-by that I mean a take no shite from players or anybody else and only put out players that want to play/are fit to play at the required level-think back to the potential in the younger players that were emerging in 04-Hannon, Gaynor, McKeever, Lyng, Pierson-a lot of un-realised potential there which is a shame. Coax back Crowe and Mckenna and there was the makings of a respectable run of some sort this year. So next year can herald big improvements, whether the management team has what it takes to force a major change in attitude by the players-who knows.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: maverick on July 10, 2007, 10:43:06 PM
Ballyhaise Man

Have to disagree with you on 2 accounts. First off I think Cootehill will beat Redhills. I was talking to a redhills player lately and he reckons the wheels have come off their wagon. So thats not a good sign. Also I know the next comment might create a few raised eyebrows but I think Balieborough will beat Ballinagh. what with the 'naghs ability to c**k up at every opportunity and and recent reports i've heard about a resurgence in the east cavan club (though you wouldn't thnk it from their results) i'm thinking we could be about to see an early upset. i mean there's gonna be at least one big upset. there usually is, and i have a funny feeling its gonna be that match.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Hank Everlast on July 11, 2007, 08:54:19 AM
So what are the chances of Paul Grimley being tempted back to Aramgh, anyone know how long he has agreed to stay with cavan? Alot of rumours are circulating around the big man goin homewards to replace joe kernan?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: shotstopper1 on July 11, 2007, 10:57:28 AM
Quote from: Hollow Man on July 09, 2007, 03:28:03 PM
anyone got the link to the preview from the echo last week? six steps to beating mayo or something...

cant find the link on their site

http://www.cavanecho.com/home.tvt?_ticket=M75OV6KACK3SMLDEIOQNCP2DALOLQEHFURUSKONHAUUFBTPIDIRGUU21S0MAAQ6EAKLAEUTITRRHVR29ANVROXKACJ5S2QRFK10L9NTHLF3NBHSJ7TUEIOQL4AFDALONBHSMXQRFOPMAAUZDALRBBHSM8QRFLZFKXB&_scope=CavanEcho/Content/Sport&id=808&psv=1 (http://www.cavanecho.com/home.tvt?_ticket=M75OV6KACK3SMLDEIOQNCP2DALOLQEHFURUSKONHAUUFBTPIDIRGUU21S0MAAQ6EAKLAEUTITRRHVR29ANVROXKACJ5S2QRFK10L9NTHLF3NBHSJ7TUEIOQL4AFDALONBHSMXQRFOPMAAUZDALRBBHSM8QRFLZFKXB&_scope=CavanEcho/Content/Sport&id=808&psv=1)


How to beat Mayo in seven easy steps!
   
Cavan Echo   
   
07/06/2007   
   
INCREDIBLE as it may seem, The Bottom Line has a strange feeling that Cavan may pull off a huge surprise, and in the process mess up countless weekend accumulators, in McHale Park this weekend.Mayo are without their talisman Ciaran McDonald, their grafting midfielder Pat Harte and former young footballer of the year Keith Higgins. How can we capitalise on this? Let The Bottom Line show you in seven easy steps. You see, it's simple. To win, Cavan need to:1. Curb the influence of Conor Mortimer. The Shrule-Glencorrib man may look like a member of Busted, but he's not a bad player. Whether you rate him or not, Mortimer is a current All Star and, if only for that reason alone, he has to be respected. The Bottom Line can see our resident man-marker Michael Hannon picking him up, not only to match him in the hair stakes but to shadow his every movement. To be fair to Hannon, he's the most consistent defender in the county, and he has the pace to match Mortimer, who needs to be fed low ball out in front of his man. Hannon has the legs to get a hand in, but to make sure he's not completely bombarded we need to...2. Win the midfield battle. With the news that Ronan McGarrity is back to fitness and may play some part, the pressure is on the expected Cavan midfield duo of Dermot McCabe and Nicholas Walsh to perform more than ever. If we can starve Mayo of the oxygen of possession – and ensure a steady flow for our own danger men – we will be ar mhuin na muice.3. Get at least one of our forwards to kick six points or 1-3. When was the last time this happened in championship football? The Bottom Line has often mentioned here the need for one Cavan player to emerge as an out and out matchwinner, to be the focal point of the attack and to land the big scores that win us matches. In championship football, a 'fox in the box' in the full forward line is essential. Jason hasn't hit the heights he's capable of yet this year, and is struggling with a hamstring injury, and with Johnston wearing the green and gold of St Brendan's for the remainder of the summer, Ger Pierson is the man for the job. The Gowna forward had a stormer in a recent challenge against Fermanagh – he's been threatening long enough, so now is the time to get the best out of him.4. Decide who's taking the frees and stick with it. McKeever or Cullivan with the citeogs (not Jason's left, please) and Lyng or Pierson from the other side.5. Catch John O'Mahony by surprise. Ballaghadereen's favourite son is one of the shrewdest managers in the game (not like a politician to be cunning), and he is sure to have picked up some pointers from the recent challenge outing against Donal Keogan's team in Athlone. Whether it is Forde's penchant for bombing forward or Mackey's pace, Johnno will have noticed and will take action accordingly. Keogan needs to try something different, something to throw Mayo's best laid plans into disarray and offer Cavan an outlet we haven't had. Forde on the 40 anyone? Cullivan at full forward? Watch this space...6. Get more out of Mark McKeever. The team captain is the most naturally gifted player on the side in the opinion of The Bottom Line. If he can rediscover the form of 2004, Cavan will have a ball carrier as fearless as any in the country.7. Carpe Diem – Seize the Day. This one's self explanatory really. Donal Keogan told the Cavan Echo this week that the departure of the 'Chicago Three' has galvanised the squad. If this is the case, they are in with a really strong shout. It's all to play for in Castlebar, and The Bottom Line has a sneaking suspicion that the year isn't over for us just yet....



Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: maverick on July 11, 2007, 01:15:40 PM
I hope he dosent head back to Armagh. I reckon that another year with these bunch of lads and Cavan could see some rewards. This year was about laying the foundation and next year you will see lads been rewarded for all the hard work. People cant expect a new management to come in and all of a sudden change things they need to be allowed to get their ideas and routines in place.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Maximus Marillius on July 11, 2007, 02:42:28 PM
Lads, Cavan wont win anything ie Ulster championship for the foreseeable future. Get a reality check...and it would not matter if God took Cavan the same result would stand...yer club structure is poor, coaching at school level pratically non existant...until that changes, then it will be the same as it has been for the past 50 years. Not trying to be smart
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: The Bottom Brick on July 11, 2007, 03:38:22 PM
St Pats College will have a full time GAA development coach as from this September, a definite step in the rigth direction...
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Maximus Marillius on July 11, 2007, 04:20:19 PM
Without doubt..thats a bog step forward...if that college could start producing..well it would change everything
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: maverick on July 11, 2007, 05:14:16 PM
What about the Virginia Schools winning the All-Ireland. That has got to mean we have some underage talent in the county......
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on July 11, 2007, 05:27:44 PM
What about the fact that Nicholas Walsh is a schools GAA coach (or whatever the title is) and he can't kick the ball straight.  :-[
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on July 11, 2007, 05:29:16 PM
Virginia All Ireland win is a start, yes

Niall Lynch is the coach of them and is one of the best in the county.

St Pats have done f**k all for too long,

One Rannafast is about all they have won in about 20 years.

shocking record...I know they are at a disadvantage in one year at McRory,but they should still do better,

Ray Cullivan Senior many years has taken on about 4 different team and has done a trojan amount of work,but help is needed,and its good to see they are appointing a full time coach there according to Brick.

The Under 16's now playing Ulster Football tournaments instead of the extremely overrated FrManning Cup/O Reily Shield against Poor Opposition is also a great step forward and should prepare our minors better.

It would also be good to see one of our clubs end the wait for an Ulster Club Senior title also.

May may be a bit of a bo**ox alright  :D  :-* ,but hes correct in this case,just like the Wexford Hurling manager said about them challenging Killkenny, we are about 5 years from challenging for Ulster Titles,if we start correcting the problems now.



Myles
Walsh can kick the ball straight,he can catch the ball great aswell,
hes just more interested in handpassing the ball to someone else,and breaking the ball and someone elses jaw at the same time these days.
Austrailia ruined him.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on July 12, 2007, 08:09:35 AM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on July 11, 2007, 05:29:16 PM

Myles
Walsh can kick the ball straight,he can catch the ball great aswell,
hes just more interested in handpassing the ball to someone else,and breaking the ball and someone elses jaw at the same time these days.
Austrailia ruined him.

I'd say he has only caught about 3-4 balls all year for cavan and that may sound bad but i wouldn't think it is far wrong.


Drung V Drumlane          -Draw with Drumlane winning replay (sorry C4ever)

I'd agree with this but there will be no need for a replay because there are a lot of players going away on holidays but im sure every team has this problem and with the weather were having i wouldn't blame anyone for heading off. 
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on July 12, 2007, 10:12:27 AM
Quote from: maverick on July 10, 2007, 10:43:06 PM
Also I know the next comment might create a few raised eyebrows but I think Balieborough will beat Ballinagh. what with the 'naghs ability to c**k up at every opportunity and and recent reports i've heard about a resurgence in the east cavan club (though you wouldn't thnk it from their results) i'm thinking we could be about to see an early upset. i mean there's gonna be at least one big upset. there usually is, and i have a funny feeling its gonna be that match.

Not shocked at this either. We've been having a poor run of form lately losing to Crosserlough and Gowna, luckily beating Lacken and Drumalee and drawing with Denn after a woeful display from our forwards. Also Bailieborough are nowhere near as bad as their recent results have shown and I'm sure they will relish the underdogs tag. To put it in gambling terms there's better value on the shamrogí.

Walsh was completely and utterly ruined by the Austrailians alright but when you think of it, in 1998 we had 3 players on the Irish u16 international rules team; Walsh, John Teirney and Martin Donohoe. Walsh being underage the following year went on to captain the Irish side. The future looked very bright.  :-\

Glad to see St. Pats taken some action, as BHMan said Cullivan senior is a bit of bo**ox alright but he gives great devotion to the development of GAA in Pats (remember he is also involved in the Hurling set-up too, limited as it is). To be honest I really think this is big factor, I mean after a couple of years of playing under Ray you can get fairly sick of him and maybe that's why some players are losing interest come Ranafast / McRory level.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Cavanfan on July 12, 2007, 11:40:19 AM
Yes indeed there is talent in Cavan and I believe that this talent is being recognised! There are are few problems with how we treat these players with talent.
We start them too early at each level which means they may have to play with 3/4 teams which is very unfair. And they are the worst in the world if they let down a team, by not going to trainings even though hey may have had a gruelling training session the previous evening. They can't please everyone and this leads to them being stressed out and this is probably one of the main reasons injury occurs and they are out for long periods off time. Some continue to have the hunger while there are some who leave football by the wayside. Sometimes not enough respect for the players from the people they should be getting it from.

Another big problem in the Cavan team is the fact that so many of the players are selfish on the pitch. At club level they may be expected to do all the work but when it comes to senior county unless you play as a unit you will never win anything. I mean has noone told them that unless they win they in fact will get no glory even tho they may score 5/6 points. Sometimes Cavan fans look upon the fact that someone has scored five points in a game and take that away from the game instead of actually seeing the real problem that the same player had another 5/6 points off target shooting from silly angles whereby it could have been passed off to a player in a better position.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on July 12, 2007, 04:37:55 PM
Cavan through to Buncrana Cup U-16 football final
12 July 2007


Cavan under-age football got a timely boost last Saturday, 7th of July at Kinawley, Co. Fermanagh when they defeated a strong and well-balanced Tyrone side in the semi-final of the annual Buncrana Cup – Ulster U-16 competition on a scoreline of 3-8 to 1-12.

This was a very exciting game from start to finish between two well-matched sides and at the interval it was the Breffni side who were ahead by 2-4 to 0-7.
The Red Hands side came back strongly in the second-half and put Mickey Graham's Cavan side under real pressure. With the game entering its final five minutes the Tyrone side went ahead by a point and Cavan looked in real trouble. However they showed admirable commitment and forced a free to equalise from Darragh Seagrave. The Drumlane youngster who came into the Cavan side as a sub proved something of a hero in those final minutes when after a nice move he finished the ball to the Tyrone net after being set up by the impressive Kevin Tierney.
In the final minutes Tyrone went all out in attack, and really had the Cavan defence under pressure. However, the Breffni side weren't to be denied on this occasion, although they had to sweat it out as Tyrone got in for a goal to reduce the leeway to a single point. There was no more scores in the game as the Cavan side held on for a narrow but deserved victory.
A great win against a quality side for the Cavan side, and team-manager was fulsome in his praise for the players efforts in the game. However, he won't settle for anything less than an outright win in the competition as the Cavan side now go through to this season's prestigious Buncrana Cup.
Cavan – Sean Brady (Mullahoran); David Doherty (Killeshandra), Killian Brady (Mullahoran), Tomas Rogers (Kingscourt Stars); Darragh Brady (Drumlane), Conor Tierney (Bailieboro' Shamrocks), Michael Brady (Mullahoran); Packy Leddy (Redhills), Barry Reilly (Kingscourt Stars); David Smith (Killinkere), Patrick King (Killeshandra), Christy Shiels (Lurgan); Patrick Rudden (Laragh Utd.), Kevin Tierney (Ballyhaise), Ray Lynch (Mullahoran).
Subs used – Shane Reilly (Killeshandra) and Darragh Seagrave (Drumlane)

These are the types of tournaments against Northern Opposition we should be playing.Theres a difference in playing The Roscommons/westmeaths and Tyrone/Derry's at this level.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: CC1 on July 12, 2007, 05:25:44 PM
I hear that Tierney lad is nifty enough. He scored 0-10 against Kingscourt in the U16 Rionn A final a week or so ago. 0-8 of which from play... Not bad going at all! How do you rate him BHM?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on July 12, 2007, 05:33:05 PM
Kevin Tierney is a class wee player no doubt.
Best prospect in the club at the minute no doubt,but hes only 15, so its hard to judge how good he will be at minor,if he grows etc,
Versitile aswell, can play Full Back,CHB,Midfield and any forward position aswell.
if he can continue to improve at this rate ,we will have a genius on our hands at senior level within 5 years.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: gortnaleck on July 13, 2007, 02:42:14 AM
Is he a son of Barry"s
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on July 13, 2007, 08:24:19 AM
yeah he is a son of barry's which is a good thing because he will look after him well and make sure he isn't flogged to death like other good talents in the county.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: maverick on July 13, 2007, 09:44:02 AM
I have heard from a number of people how good this Tierney lad is. He destroyed that Kingscourt team in the U-14 final aswell if im not mistaken 2 years ago?However we must remember not to put too much pressure on these lads and allow them to develop without thinking they need to prove themselves at every grade all at the same time. Too many good players have gone by the wasteside in the past couple of years.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: shotstopper1 on July 13, 2007, 10:33:45 AM
Tierney no doubt has the ability to become a regular fixture on the Cavan seniors for years to come.Size shouldn't be a problem, and he has an eye for goal and can use either foot.Barry himself was a brilliant talent underage but unfortunately due to illness in his late teens early twenties he wasn't able to transfer this to the full in his senior career.As has being said hopefully he will be able to look after the talent that Kevin is.
It might also be well to note that of the U-16 named both Kevin and Barry Reilly (The Stars) are also playing soccer with Monaghan Utd.(there may be more of them but I'm not too sure)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Hollow Man on July 13, 2007, 12:43:07 PM
Tierney looks like a really exciting prospect. Saw him in Cootehill against the Stars and he ran the show, although it was absolutely ridiculous that K'court brought Barry Reilly back to mark him.

Reilly is worth four or five points to the team, and they may as well not have had him at all because with the service Tierney was getting and the form he was in, he would have destroyed anyone. Kingscourt would have won it only for this switch in my opinion.

Tierney has the size and strength, but to make it to the top he'll need to work on his bad foot a bit, he is over reliant on one (think it's his left?). Class act though.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on July 13, 2007, 02:52:41 PM
It doesn't say much for us when we have to talk about a 15 yr old  :-\
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on July 13, 2007, 04:30:06 PM
Indeed C4ever its bad when we are talking about our under 16's   :'(
young Barry Reily of Kingscourt is a class wee player aswell

a young lad called Joe Dillon of Kingscourt isnt a bad wee talent either and has good bloodlines aswell.

Barry Tierney is himself an outstanding trainer,been lucky enough to be coached by him a few times,so Kevin will be fine.

One thing on that under 16 County team,

Not one Cavan Gaels player  :o

its a long time since that happened. Shift in Power?

when i was playing underage we were always one of the best Roinn B (Division Two) teams.
we played those gaels underage teams in friendlies and they wiped us out,along with the rest of division one in Cavan.
they dont seem to have the same talent coming through either.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: trim blue on July 13, 2007, 08:02:28 PM
B'Haiseman is that a son of the '80's Joe Dillon you mentioned?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on July 13, 2007, 10:03:59 PM
Quote from: trim blue on July 13, 2007, 08:02:28 PM
B'Haiseman is that a son of the '80's Joe Dillon you mentioned?

Ive been told it is his son TB.But i could be wrong,id imagine hes related anyway,cant be too many Dillons around K'Court  ;D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: trim blue on July 13, 2007, 11:40:20 PM
Both Barry Tierney and Joe Dillon would have played for Cavan together at some point, from what I remember Tierney had huge skill but lacked a little pace (might have been the illness you mentioned) Cavan team was pretty dire at the time too but even at that I dont think he was given a proper shot at it, great to hear his young lad is showing promise, Dillon for me was a legend and reminded me a bit of Willie Joe Padden, small for midfield but jaysus what a leap, always gave 100% too, things are getting bad when you start remembering the '80's with a degree of fondness.. ::)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: maverick on July 15, 2007, 10:14:17 PM
Was just at the Clough - Gowna game. Bad game gowna won by 2 but Clough could have snatched it.No sign Gallagher looks like he is finished with Cavan football for this year at lest
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on July 15, 2007, 11:06:45 PM
Mayo getting a spanking above in Derry really puts our senior team in perspective. We couldn't beat a Down team subsequently dumped on by Monaghan and held to a single point from play by Meath, and then concede 20 scores and manage ten against a team that then score 1-6 against Derry. :-[

It's time to ask a serious question. Has the senior intercounty team in Cavan ever been as low as it is now? We truly are desperate although I guess the run of six championship campaigns pre-McHugh without a win or whatever it was, was probably worse. In hindsight the last chance we had of making any sort of impression was when Coleman was in charge and there was some semblance of unity and pattern to the side. For the '97 crew, Coleman's tenure was last-chance for them, they've gone over the hill and slipped badly since. When they finally pack it in, and you'd only want Dermot and Forde to stick around really, we really will be fucked entirely.

We're an absolute dead loss and it's hard enough to see things changing in the medium term. After Keogan's first season you'd be less confident about our prospects especially given the continuing uneven fitness levels in the camp and no apparent input from Grimley as regards a definitive, identifiable gameplan. Promotion and team spirit aside, it's been a sloppy enough year overall. The optimistic side of me hopes Keogan has learned good lessons in his rookie year and might get hardline with the less committed elements in the dressing room but I doubt it seeing as he has by all accounts indulged them thus far. Sligo, Monaghan's and Meath's upturn in fortunes down to sheer hard work and commitment contrasts sharply with our guys cutting corners in training, pissing off in mid-season and other guys simply not caring or being inspired enough about the county team to actually join the panel. There's just no pride or prestige in the players, no sense of mission surrounding our county side. I hope I'm wrong but I haven't seen anything dramatic from the maagement this year to suggest that this will change.

More than ever, our only chance is for the youth and at minors and 21s, we have to pour everything into underage but our track record there is equally lamentable despite years of investment. Once again we're reduced to hoping against hope, I really can't recall things ever looking so bad or personaly feeling so glum about the whole thing. :(
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Blue06 on July 16, 2007, 12:06:47 AM
Only positives from the year were the unbeaten league run which ended up in promotion to the new Div 2 and there appeared to be a better spirit in the team this year, didn't lie down as they had previously.

I have seen somewhere Keogan quoted as saying that he and the mgt team have been shocked by the attitude of certain members of the panel and they will not be there next year.  He said he wasn't referring to the Chicago 3 either. 
Lets hope theres action here rather than idle talk.

I was one of few on the board here last year backing Keogan for the job (mainly because I had little confidence in the other options) and think he should be let at it again next year.  This decision should be made by the CB asap so work can start now.

The same decisions should be made now for both U21 & minor so that team mgt can see players playing during the club championships.

We are away behind so the only way the catch up in the short term is to work harder than the rest. 
As the Gallant John Joe was once quoted "You don't get fit playing football, you have to be fit to play football".

When Down won the All Ireland in'94 they started training the week after Derry hammered them in Newry '93.  Now I know we are not even thinking of AIs but the determination to get competitive again should be there. 
Hence a squad should be put together as early as possible so that fitness for 70 mins championship football should not be an issue.






Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on July 16, 2007, 11:09:51 AM
I think Keoghan should set up trials for the county team as soon as the club championships are over and that everyone should be made attend and I am including the current senior panel. Some of these boys obviously think they are on the county team for life and have some god given right to it. We need to do something to show these players they are not half as important as they think they are. In Roy Keanes book he described how Brian Clough kept his feet on the ground by making him clean the 1st team player boots even though he was making 1st team appearances himself - so he never lost sight that he was still an apprentice and still had to work to earn the right to be a 1st team regular. I think a trial could be the GAA equivalent of such action. From what I hear Pearson will be getting the boot next year - it is a shame but if he isn't going to give it everything there is no place for him. The damage players like that do to young lads coming onto the panel is huge - they need to be removed from the panel.

I wasn't in favour of having keoghan as manager simply as he is not a good example to players. But there is no point in removing him now, especially since no one with any nouse would be interested in the job anyhow.

As for the club championships I am going, predictably for

Senior - Gaels
Intermediate - Ballinagh
Junior - Killeshandra
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on July 16, 2007, 12:23:08 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on July 16, 2007, 11:09:51 AM
I think Keoghan should set up trials for the county team as soon as the club championships are over and that everyone should be made attend and I am including the current senior panel. Some of these boys obviously think they are on the county team for life and have some god given right to it.

My thoughts exactly. There is an almost ridiculous sense of entitlement among some of our county players and a grossly over exaggerrated sense of importance about some of them, despite their abject failure to realise their potential either individually or as a team. It almost makes me laugh when I see these guys with one Ulster medal or whatever thinking they're somehow bigger than the county team that they are there to serve - not the other way round - and believing they are untouchable. For too long a string of managers have given these guys the notion that they they will be accommodated no matter what their sins because the county can't afford to do without them. Result: Lazy bastards swinging the lead, the tail wagging the dog and senior guys setting a poor example to others.

In short, the county team can ill afford to carry malcontent trouble makers like these and the sooner we go back to the drawing board and start again with young players, the better. I'll gladly take a few years in lower divisions and another few poor championships if we have a good committed and solid team at the end of it. The way we're going now, we're going nowhere so something radical has to be done and tough decisions taken with the longer term view in mind.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Blue06 on July 16, 2007, 01:39:09 PM
Club championship predictions.

Senior : Gaels to coast it & eventually make a serious impact on the Ulster Club

Intermediate: Drumgoon to return to Senior straight away

Junior: I ll go for Shercock


Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Hollow Man on July 16, 2007, 04:17:15 PM
I think we need to wield the axe, Charlie Mulgrew style.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on July 16, 2007, 10:18:47 PM
Quote from: Blue06 on July 16, 2007, 12:06:47 AM
Only positives from the year were the unbeaten league run which ended up in promotion to the new Div 2 and there appeared to be a better spirit in the team this year, didn't lie down as they had previously.

I have seen somewhere Keogan quoted as saying that he and the mgt team have been shocked by the attitude of certain members of the panel and they will not be there next year.  He said he wasn't referring to the Chicago 3 either. 
Lets hope theres action here rather than idle talk.

I was one of few on the board here last year backing Keogan for the job (mainly because I had little confidence in the other options) and think he should be let at it again next year.  This decision should be made by the CB asap so work can start now.

The same decisions should be made now for both U21 & minor so that team mgt can see players playing during the club championships.

We are away behind so the only way the catch up in the short term is to work harder than the rest. 
As the Gallant John Joe was once quoted "You don't get fit playing football, you have to be fit to play football".

When Down won the All Ireland in'94 they started training the week after Derry hammered them in Newry '93.  Now I know we are not even thinking of AIs but the determination to get competitive again should be there. 
Hence a squad should be put together as early as possible so that fitness for 70 mins championship football should not be an issue.



When did Donal become shocked at the attitude of certain members of the panel-last November, March, June????? I'm assuming fellas didn't become shocking the closer the championship came, I'm presuming whatever shocked Donal was self evident at an early stage which kind of begs the question why wait till next year to deal with it. One of the reasons constantly put forward for Donal getting the job was that he knows Cavan football and knows the players by extension. How exactly did he get himself into a position where he was shocked by some of the carry on? Did he not have a fair idea of the characters on the panel before he came in and if not what does this say about the mans knowledge of the local scene. Strange and depressing



Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: maverick on July 16, 2007, 11:52:01 PM
QuoteWhen did Donal become shocked at the attitude of certain members of the panel-last November, March, June?Huh? I'm assuming fellas didn't become shocking the closer the championship came, I'm presuming whatever shocked Donal was self evident at an early stage which kind of begs the question why wait till next year to deal with it. One of the reasons constantly put forward for Donal getting the job was that he knows Cavan football and knows the players by extension. How exactly did he get himself into a position where he was shocked by some of the carry on? Did he not have a fair idea of the characters on the panel before he came in and if not what does this say about the mans knowledge of the local scene. Strange and depressing

in fairness, i'd say its probably the opposite, as it gets closer to championship players get titchy and they probably reveal their real personalities, attitude problems come to the surface as tensions rise. despite what we might think about a footballer you only really know them when you have to work with them. I''ve heard a few stories about some of the county players that would strike me as out of character, certain lads have a bit of the prima donna about them. others that you would think had this attitude are more committed and willing to make sacrifices.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: SuperHans on July 17, 2007, 12:44:47 PM
Lads we are headin down to breffni to watch the Derry game.Will it be worth it stayin in Cavan town that nite? Whats the nightlife like,ne good clubs or ne were cheap to stay the nite?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on July 17, 2007, 03:38:24 PM
The Imperial (owned by current Cavan boss) and the Farnham Arms are both fairly popular nightspots and are pretty busy of a weekend, you could do worse to head there after a few pints in more traditional spots like the Cruiscin Lan, Black Horse and so on. Being a local, have never had any need of somewhere to stay but I'm sure a few here will help you out on that score...
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: SuperHans on July 17, 2007, 04:03:35 PM
Cheers Maniac, sounds good.we are tempted about monaghan town aswell.
You know any farmers who will let us throw a tent up in a field? Alternatively ne B & BS?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on July 17, 2007, 11:02:41 PM
IMO Monaghan is a shit hole. Went there on a stag once and was made feel like a black man at a KKK convention! There are a few B&Bs on the outskirts of Cavan town but there would be much more in the surrounding towns like Butlersbridge, Belturbet and Killeshandra as they cater more for fishermen. In cavan you are probably best to look at Kilmore hotel or Cavan Crystal Hotel, unless some of the other lads have a better idea.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on July 18, 2007, 08:08:11 AM
MCcauls Pub have a B&B and also the Bridge Resturant thats all that i know of in the town but if u go to goldenpages.ie and type in B&B's in Cavan u should find more.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: shotstopper1 on July 18, 2007, 10:43:28 AM
Hotels

http://www.farnhamarmshotel.com/  (http://www.farnhamarmshotel.com/)  (centre of town)

http://www.kilmorehotelcavan.com/ (http://www.kilmorehotelcavan.com/)

http://www.cavanhotel-crystal.com/ (http://www.cavanhotel-crystal.com/)

http://www.farnhamestate.ie/ (http://www.farnhamestate.ie/)

B&B's in Town

McCauls Pub + B&B      049 4331327
The Bridge Restaurant    049  4331538

B&B'S 5-10 min walk from town centre

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Glendown House   049 4332257
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Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: SuperHans on July 18, 2007, 11:26:07 AM
Thanks a million folks will get on it asap. McCauls sounds good. Beer, Bed and Breakfast!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on July 18, 2007, 11:41:10 AM
Quote from: SuperHans on July 18, 2007, 11:26:07 AM
Thanks a million folks will get on it asap. McCauls sounds good. Beer, Bed and Breakfast!

We have very little to be at until the Club Championship's start next weeked!!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on July 18, 2007, 12:50:25 PM
if your're interested in a piss up and are looking at staying in a hotel id advise staying in the farnham arms,
as its in the centre of town,and you're right in the middle of the action.

Kilmore,Crystal and Radisson are well removed from the town centre.
Cant say i know too much about B and B's in Cavan as i only live about 5/6 miles out the road.

On a sat night
McMahons or the Sibin for starters up until 11.30-12

Then Farnham(night club) if you're under 25
Imperial Night Club if you're over 25  :D

as all us Ballyhaise footballers are known to be alcoholics,i should know the places fairly well by now  ;)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on July 18, 2007, 01:02:24 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on July 18, 2007, 12:50:25 PM


as all us Ballyhaise footballers are known to be alcoholics,i should know the places fairly well by now  ;)

Well use will have f**k all else to do in a few weeks anyway  :D :D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on July 18, 2007, 01:32:13 PM
Quote from: cavan4ever on July 18, 2007, 01:02:24 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on July 18, 2007, 12:50:25 PM


as all us Ballyhaise footballers are known to be alcoholics,i should know the places fairly well by now  ;)

Well use will have f**k all else to do in a few weeks anyway  :D :D

if youse get through the losing first round back door system,i hope we get to play you later on in the championship  ;)  ;D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on July 18, 2007, 01:49:52 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on July 18, 2007, 01:32:13 PM
Quote from: cavan4ever on July 18, 2007, 01:02:24 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on July 18, 2007, 12:50:25 PM


as all us Ballyhaise footballers are known to be alcoholics,i should know the places fairly well by now  ;)

Well use will have f**k all else to do in a few weeks anyway  :D :D

if youse get through the losing first round back door system,i hope we get to play you later on in the championship  ;)  ;D

Well we will have 2 new players but will be missing 3-4 for the drumlane game because of holidays so chances are slim for that one anyway.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: maverick on July 18, 2007, 03:47:35 PM
QuoteWell we will have 2 new players but will be missing 3-4 for the drumlane game because of holidays so chances are slim for that one anyway.

reckon drumlane will win this one, hear drung are missing a good few. And what about poor Galligan, i know you boys like to give him a hard time on this board from time to time but he's had a realy tough time of it these last 2 and a half years. believe he's having surgery tomorrow so hope it goes well. i think he's gonna develop eventually into a decent county footballer but he needs a little bit of time. its a f**cking scandal that he was misdiagnosed all year long, playing through the year with that injury and not getting it sorted out as a result.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Cavanfan on July 18, 2007, 03:55:31 PM
Then Farnham(night club) if you're under 25
Imperial Night Club if you're over 25  [/color]

The farnham if under 20 I'd say! Hit Imperial Nightclub and then residents bar in Farnham after, always a good laugh!!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on July 19, 2007, 10:42:03 AM
Quote from: maverick on July 18, 2007, 03:47:35 PM
i know you boys like to give him a hard time on this board from time to time but he's had a realy tough time of it these last 2 and a half years. believe he's having surgery tomorrow so hope it goes well. i think he's gonna develop eventually into a decent county footballer but he needs a little bit of time. its a f**cking scandal that he was misdiagnosed all year long, playing through the year with that injury and not getting it sorted out as a result.

Yeah bit of a joke alright, it would make u wonder if they know what there at in there.  I do give him a hard time myself but as you say he has had a tough time with injuries which i wasn't taking account off so maybe he will come good when all is sorted but i won't be holding my breath.  Don't expect us to beat Drumlane if we had a full squad would fancy are chances so just hope we have players back for the  "losing first round back door system" as BHman calls it !!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on July 19, 2007, 11:29:37 AM
Looks like this p***k is on the move too. Good riddance I say. He showed no heart or balls all year for Cavan. Fermanagh were better off without him and so will Cavan be. Just goes to show how much respect he had for the 'Lough! Who'd want a it of him at county level now?

From Hoganstand....

Rory Gallagher on the move again?
18 July 2007


It is strongly rumoured in Cavan GAA circles that Rory Gallagher the former Fermanagh player who declared for Cavan this season and played with the Breffni county in the recent NFL and indeed the championship, as well as playing his club football with one of the top senior clubs in the county, Crosserlough could well be on the move once again. He failed to line out for the Crosserlough side in the Cavan SFL Division One game at the Gowna venue last Sunday – a top of the table clash – and is currently on holidays.

It has been learned that Gallagher is returning to Dublin senior club, St. Brigid's in Blanchardstown from where he was originally transferred to the Killnaleck club.

A Cavan Co. Board official said during the week that no transfer has been received to date from Gallagher. A Crosserlough GFC spokesman said that his transfer was in the process of completion. Gallagher had expressed a wish to go back to the St. Brigid's GFC where he played for a number of years.

The news has taken the Crosserlough club and supporters completely by surprise. He had transferred to Cavan at the beginning of the year and was in business in the county and played in a number of national league games and in the championship with Cavan as well as lining out with Crosserlough. While nothing has been signed as yet informed sources indicate that the transfer is in the pipeline. It is understood that Gallagher has cited work changes with his job with Manpower and personal reasons for his decision to return to Dublin.

Gallagher made his debut for Cavan against Queen's University in the Dr McKenna Cup last January when he came on in the second-half of that game. He has been playing his club football for Crosserlough in the senior league competition. Incidentally, his last game for Crosserlough was against Mullahoran on Friday 29th June in Kilnaleck when he scored nine points in his club's 1-11 to 1-9 win.

Should he transfer it would be a severe blow to Crosserlough hopes of success at senior level this season, coming just weeks before the commencement of the championship season in the Breffni county.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: CC1 on July 19, 2007, 11:39:27 AM
Disgraceful... You have to feel for Crosserlough more than anyone in this. Could be a huge blow to their championship hopes.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on July 19, 2007, 11:42:06 AM
Quote from: CC1 on July 19, 2007, 11:39:27 AM
Disgraceful... You have to feel for Crosserlough more than anyone in this. Could be a huge blow to their championship hopes.

I dunno he didn't train once with them and only played four games, id say there glad to see the back off him.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on July 19, 2007, 12:17:32 PM
Quote from: cavan4ever on July 19, 2007, 11:42:06 AM
Quote from: CC1 on July 19, 2007, 11:39:27 AM
Disgraceful... You have to feel for Crosserlough more than anyone in this. Could be a huge blow to their championship hopes.

I dunno he didn't train once with them and only played four games, id say there glad to see the back off him.

From what I've heard from a few Lough boys c4ever is spot on. Good riddance to the pre-madonna...

Lads just thinking about this, will we have a panel at all next year at this rate;

Jelly ??
Gunner ??
Cahill ??
Gaynor ??
Pierson ??
Gallagher ??

Also the possiblity of one or two boys hanging up the boots ?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on July 19, 2007, 12:25:38 PM
Quote from: Homer on July 19, 2007, 12:17:32 PM
Quote from: cavan4ever on July 19, 2007, 11:42:06 AM
Quote from: CC1 on July 19, 2007, 11:39:27 AM
Disgraceful... You have to feel for Crosserlough more than anyone in this. Could be a huge blow to their championship hopes.

I dunno he didn't train once with them and only played four games, id say there glad to see the back off him.

From what I've heard from a few Lough boys c4ever is spot on. Good riddance to the pre-madonna...

Lads just thinking about this, will we have a panel at all next year at this rate;

Jelly ??
Gunner ??
Cahill ??
Gaynor ??
Pierson ??
Gallagher ??

Also the possiblity of one or two boys hanging up the boots ?

We'll have a panel alright. There are plenty of lads that would give their right arm to play for Cavan. What we won't have is a bunch if self important prima donnas that think they are bigger than Cavan. I'd rather lose with 15 hard working Cavan men to be honest.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: maverick on July 19, 2007, 12:48:59 PM
QuoteQuote from: cavan4ever on Today at 11:42:06 AM
Quote from: CC1 on Today at 11:39:27 AM
Disgraceful... You have to feel for Crosserlough more than anyone in this. Could be a huge blow to their championship hopes.


I dunno he didn't train once with them and only played four games, id say there glad to see the back off him.


From what I've heard from a few Lough boys c4ever is spot on. Good riddance to the pre-madonna...


aren't we very polemic on this board today ;D ;D i was talking to a an unnammed person yesterday and he gave me the scoop on the rory gallagher issue. initially when he wanted to transfer to cavan he was told there was no way he could do it without leaving his club in dublin. he didn't want to do this, which is part of the reason, if oyu can remember, why his transfer took so long to go through, as all parties were trying to find an alternative way get his transfer completed. when it became clear he would have to transfer the county board told him that they would be picking the club he would be going to. Gallagher had no say in the matter, and crosserlough was chosen for him, the county board were told that he would more than likely transfer back to brigids at the 1st opportunity he could. looks like nobody in crosserlough was told though.

on a separate issue, is anybody here subscribed to gaaresults.ie?  i got an interesting text message a few days back about getting free text messages for the summer and was wondering if anybody knows what its about?  ??? ???
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on July 19, 2007, 12:52:04 PM

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We'll have a panel alright. There are plenty of lads that would give their right arm to play for Cavan. What we won't have is a bunch if self important prima donnas that think they are bigger than Cavan. I'd rather lose with 15 hard working Cavan men to be honest.
[/quote]

Not sure if there are many of them about.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on July 19, 2007, 05:04:21 PM
Quote from: Homer on July 19, 2007, 12:17:32 PM
Quote from: cavan4ever on July 19, 2007, 11:42:06 AM
Quote from: CC1 on July 19, 2007, 11:39:27 AM
Disgraceful... You have to feel for Crosserlough more than anyone in this. Could be a huge blow to their championship hopes.

I dunno he didn't train once with them and only played four games, id say there glad to see the back off him.

From what I've heard from a few Lough boys c4ever is spot on. Good riddance to the pre-madonna...

Lads just thinking about this, will we have a panel at all next year at this rate;

Jelly ??
Gunner ??
Cahill ??
Gaynor ??
Pierson ??
Gallagher ??

Also the possiblity of one or two boys hanging up the boots ?

Gaynor
Jelly and Cahill will be back

Gunner is of course retiring,

Dont hold your breath for Pierson playing again under this management though  ;)

Gallagher is gone aswell. Disgusting how he treated Crosserlough.He could have at least played out the season with them even if he transferred next year.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: footballmad on July 19, 2007, 09:56:59 PM
Yeah I dont think you need to worry about players. Cavan have lots of players on the panel who really love Cavan football and want to make a difference. It wont happen overnight but I think we have a future with this group. Alot of them are young and enthusatic. As regards the Gallagher issue. It would be great to know why Crosserlough was the team that was picked for Gallagher? Interesting.......
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Goin Down on July 19, 2007, 10:23:58 PM
When was the last time Cavan had a good team??
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: maverick on July 20, 2007, 11:11:11 AM
QuoteAs regards the Gallagher issue. It would be great to know why Crosserlough was the team that was picked for Gallagher? Interesting.......

it was decided that he should join a senior county club, cavan gaels, gowna, mullahoran were all ruled out as they are seen as challengers for the senior championiship and the transfer would thus be seen as too controversial. then they went through the county board and senior management team and any club connected to any representative was ruled out... so Kingscourt were ruled out as the county chairman was from there. Denn was ruled out as keoghan was from there. knockbride as rogers is from there, castlerahan as mcGinn is from there and so on... in the end they decided that crosserlough was the best of the rest that had no connections and that he should go there. maybe if he had been allowed pick his own club he might have stayed till the end of the year? Doesn't really matter now really.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: inisceithleann on July 20, 2007, 04:12:28 PM
I feel for crosserlough as they've lost a very good player, but as a fermanagh man i hope he stays in the inter county wilderness and they new Erne manager whoever he may be does not convince him to play for us again. Fermanagh were a much better team without him, he's not a team player. By the way if he choose to make himself available for fermanagh is there any rules preventing him from playing with cavan this season?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Hollow Man on July 20, 2007, 05:27:07 PM
http://www.cavanecho.com/pdf/pages/cav032.pdf

and inside

http://www.cavanecho.com/pdf/pages/cav030.pdf

Looks like the fella has no loyalty whatsoever...
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: inisceithleann on July 20, 2007, 05:35:23 PM
one has to a the question why cavan entertained him at all? i suppose it had the potential to work out, but when any man plays for his own county's rivals and was training with cavan only a few miles from the fermanagh/cavan border you'd have to ask questions.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Goin Down on July 21, 2007, 01:52:31 AM
Again I'll ask as no-one replied, mabye cause they dont remember i dont know but:
When was the last time Cavan had a good team?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: CC1 on July 21, 2007, 03:33:21 PM
Quote from: Goin Down on July 21, 2007, 01:52:31 AM
Again I'll ask as no-one replied, mabye cause they dont remember i dont know but:
When was the last time Cavan had a good team?
2001 to early 2002 I guess. They were a reasonable enough team. Got to the Ulster final and were unlucky to be beaten as they were all over Tyrone and like Monaghan the experience let Cavan down.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Goin Down on July 21, 2007, 03:52:34 PM
Thanks for that! :D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on July 21, 2007, 11:13:46 PM
Quote from: Goin Down on July 21, 2007, 03:52:34 PM
Thanks for that! :D

Is something funny about the reply?  Personally i didn't reply because I thought it was a stupid question from someone who spends most of his time on the coronation street thread. Maybe you should go back there and ask when the last time Vera kissed Jack was.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on July 23, 2007, 09:43:53 AM
Anyone here have any dealings with that p***k of a ref from Swad before?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Goin Down on July 23, 2007, 11:06:10 AM
Quote from: cavan4ever on July 23, 2007, 09:43:53 AM
Anyone here have any dealings with that p***k of a ref from Swad before?

Whos that now?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Goin Down on July 23, 2007, 11:11:50 AM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on July 21, 2007, 11:13:46 PM
Quote from: Goin Down on July 21, 2007, 03:52:34 PM
Thanks for that! :D

Is something funny about the reply?  Personally i didn't reply because I thought it was a stupid question from someone who spends most of his time on the coronation street thread. Maybe you should go back there and ask when the last time Vera kissed Jack was.

Hey Gobshite, I dont like Coronation St personally, I was only joining in with the craic on the thread! Got a problem with it? :P

Oh and whos Vera and Jack?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Gnevin on July 23, 2007, 01:43:14 PM
Quote from: The Bottom Brick on July 09, 2007, 02:34:53 PM
Was very impressed with Martin Reilly

Walsh was class by his standards in my opinion (still only middling by inter county standard though). He actually caught a ball cleanly Saturday, I swear I haven't seen him do that in about 2 years

Agree about Flanagan, poor on Saturday but an amazing talent and applies himself too

McKeever has had a desperate year

Sheridan did well

McCabe was our best player on Saturday, as he is in 75% of our games.

Forde was too preoccupied with pestering the ref and ensuring that any 50/50 decsions would go Mayo's way

This management team don't fancy Pierson, his attitude stinks by all accounts, and he won't be there next year, mark my words...

Larry will hang up the boots too probably

The Bottom Line The Bottom Brick - jaysus lads you were scraping the barrell there!


I think you'll find decsions is spelt decisions and barrell is spelt barrel
::) ::) ::)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on July 23, 2007, 02:27:31 PM
The last two interjections into this thread have me scratching me head. (http://www.est1892.co.uk/forums/images/smilies/liverpool/rash.gif)

Anyway, first round of SFC down for decision this weekend, yeah? At long last.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on July 23, 2007, 02:38:48 PM
Well I am taking a vow of silence in relation to those latest interjections from now on. As for the championship, what the story with Ballinagh. They seem to be self destructing lately although Ballyhaiseman will no doubt be delighted with their victory over them at the weekend. Any feedback on that match? 2-5 to 0-10 I believe it was.

As for the county team. We drew with 14 men against Meath in 1st round of the league in Navan and were clearly the better team. Look at the difference between then and now!! :-\
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on July 23, 2007, 03:24:44 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on July 23, 2007, 02:38:48 PM
Well I am taking a vow of silence in relation to those latest interjections from now on. As for the championship, what the story with Ballinagh. They seem to be self destructing lately although Ballyhaiseman will no doubt be delighted with their victory over them at the weekend. Any feedback on that match? 2-5 to 0-10 I believe it was.

We haven't been in any sort of good form of late and this result is another in long line of poor performances. The Fin from Mullahoran was refereeing and he was atrocious for both sides to be honest.

We started slowly, but looked the more dangerous side; Declan Beard crashing a one-on-one effort of the post and wide.

At the break with Ballinagh leading 0-7 to 0-4, Ballyhaise introduced James Brady to full forward. Almost immediately from the re-start, Ballyhaise dropped one in on the square and a combination of Brady and a clanger from our goalie saw the ball in the back of the net. Ballinagh took the kickout and were on the attack when The Fin stopped the game claiming he had never received any slip for the Brady's substitution and ordered the second-half be restarted with the original score!

Ballyhaise soon rectified the incident after an opportunistic goal again from a high ball into the square. Ballyhaise were then reduced to 14 for verbal abuse and Cullivan went off shortly after with a knee injury. With Ballinagh leading by two at this stage it looked as though we would kill them off. But Ballyhaise kept at it and reduced the margin to one before being awarded and converting a penalty with minutes to go (a very dubious decision considering the rest of the Fin's refereeing IMO). We clawed one back but Ballyhaise held out for a one point win and two precious points for them.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: shotstopper1 on July 23, 2007, 03:26:46 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on July 18, 2007, 12:50:25 PM
as all us Ballyhaise footballers are known to be alcoholics ;)

Is that why your not around today after your result at the w/e.
Was at the game Sat evening,entertaining enough with Ballinagh winning the first half and Ballyhaise the second. It was the introduction of James Brady who turned things around for ye and also the positioning of Kelly (who scored an excellent taken penalty in the last minute) on Durkin in the second half.Cullivan picked up a knee injury which looked like it was serious enough, will be a blow for ye're championship ambitions.Also Ballyhaise had one of their half backs sent off early in the second half for two yellows.As for Ballinagh,they missed several scoring opportunities in the first half , they should've being out of sight.Terry Smith and Cian McDermott were excellent, but Gumley was kept quiet by Slowey and Galligan was also quiet.McInerney came on in the second half but was a bit rusty, Gaynor togged out but didn't play,strange.
A case for the what happened next crew at the start of the second half.The ref threw the ball in Ballyhaise won it and drove it into the square where brady got a touch and it landed in the net.Goal for Ballyhaise,not so, they introduced two subs at half time but forgot to give the ref the note with the changes on it,therefore the goal was disallowed and the ref threw the ball in again after receiving the elusive slip of paper.This result may keep Ballyhaise in Div 1 for another year and may be a blow to Ballinagh in their defence of their league title.

Both teams were missing a number of regulars and it will be interesting to see how they fare in an Intermediate Championship, where among others Drumgoon and Lavey will be major contenders.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on July 23, 2007, 03:58:08 PM
Are there any good refs in the county at the moment? Please god no one say Tommy Lyons!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on July 23, 2007, 03:59:13 PM
Quote from: shotstopper1 on July 23, 2007, 03:26:46 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on July 18, 2007, 12:50:25 PM
as all us Ballyhaise footballers are known to be alcoholics ;)

A case for the what happened next crew at the start of the second half.The ref threw the ball in Ballyhaise won it and drove it into the square where brady got a touch and it landed in the net.Goal for Ballyhaise,not so, they introduced two subs at half time but forgot to give the ref the note with the changes on it,therefore the goal was disallowed and the ref threw the ball in again after receiving the elusive slip of paper.

Thats well dodgy the ballyhaise secetary must have been on the drink before the game.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on July 23, 2007, 04:02:29 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on July 23, 2007, 03:58:08 PM
Are there any good refs in the county at the moment? Please god no one say Tommy Lyons!

Very few myles .. there are alot more bad one's especially that muppet from swad and the other fool from carnaross.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on July 23, 2007, 04:28:49 PM
Shotstopper

No i wasnt on the beer all weekend after the game for once.

Cullivans injury is very bad on first reports,il let you know more after Tommorow nights training.

Homer, i would gloat,but you're a decent lad so,all il say is

have you every came across such an absolute tool of a referee as him on Saturday night? an absolute loony.

Alan Durkan cleaned out Brendan Lyons on Saturday night,
Barry Kelly was outstanding when he went back in on Durkan,not too many backs as good as him in the county.

Kevin Rooney was sent off for a reaction in an exchange with his Ballinagh opposition,not for a verbal.

both teams will be there or thereabouts for the intermediate championship,

we were missing Barry Lynch,Michael Rooney who is just back from injury and of course US Bound Sean McCormack who will be back sometime next month.

Ballinagh were of course also short.

Good to beat the nagh for once, its nearly four years ago since we beat them last and god knows how long since we beat them in Ballinagh.

a championship rematch would be interesting.

things worked out well for us with Castlerahan beating Kingscourt by a point

and Cavan Gaels beating Drumlane 2-16 to 0-05(in fairness Drumlane put up a better fight than the score shows,the Gaels pulled away in the last 15 minutes)

i believe that puts us 3 points ahead of Kingscourt and Drumlane with 3 games left.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: The Bottom Brick on July 23, 2007, 04:33:30 PM
Oliver Og Reilly is the worst. most ignorant ref I have ever come across.

reffed us in a league match against Shercock a couple of yearts ago, I jogged past and asked him "what's the score", to which he growled

"Are ya blind? Can ya not see the fukin score board". I mean that's a joke. He destroyed that match, giving us everything early on (we went seven or eigth up) and then doing the opposite at the end, including giving a last minute free for a lift ball by Adrian Fitz which was about a foot off the ground! Of corse, Jody Clakre tapped over the equaliser

If he was just ignorant it wouldn't be as bad (like Pappy "Shut your fuckin mouth" Woods!), but he's a terrible, vindictive excuse for a ref.

See he reffed a couple of games in the Ulster MFC this year - times are bad, that's for sure...
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on July 23, 2007, 04:42:15 PM
Quote from: cavan4ever on July 23, 2007, 04:02:29 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on July 23, 2007, 03:58:08 PM
Are there any good refs in the county at the moment? Please god no one say Tommy Lyons!

Very few myles .. there are alot more bad one's especially that muppet from swad and the other fool from carnaross.

I think I remember that lad from Carnaross. Was he kicked out of Meath or something for being so woeful? If it is the guy I am thinking off I remember playing against Ramor in Virginia once and seeing him totally destroy a game. In the end one of our players pushed him over cos he just couldn't handle his ridiculous decisions and got 12 months for it. It was chaotic stuff. I honestly thought he was tossing a coin when making his decision. Packie Smith was a great man for playing for the draw. I remember a few yrs abck cornafaen played Drumgoon in the Junior final. Drumgoon were well on top but still only a point up and Packie was playing and playing for the draw. Next thing Cornafaen has a shot for a point, half blocked, deflected and bounces in for a goal. Now Packie has really fucked up the draw so he starts playing more and more injury time - it was like he played a 3rd half. Anyway, the reds won and Drumgoon were not happy campers.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on July 23, 2007, 04:46:56 PM
in fairness Packie Smith is one of the better ones in my opinion Myles,
always found him to be very fair.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on July 23, 2007, 04:50:10 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on July 23, 2007, 04:46:56 PM
in fairness Packie Smith is one of the better ones in my opinion Myles,
always found him to be very fair.

He does play for a draw whenever he can though
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on July 23, 2007, 04:51:22 PM
Quote from: cavan4ever on July 23, 2007, 04:50:10 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on July 23, 2007, 04:46:56 PM
in fairness Packie Smith is one of the better ones in my opinion Myles,
always found him to be very fair.

He does play for a draw whenever he can though

all referees do c4ever,  :o

id question whether they are encouraged to do so by County Board officials who want extra money they would garner from Replays.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on July 23, 2007, 04:55:13 PM
nope these are in league games aswell he players for a draw more than any other ref i know.

while talking about ref's anyone know the procedure if a person enters the field(not a player or sub) and kicks a player on the ground and punches another on the jaw. 
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on July 23, 2007, 04:59:20 PM
Quote from: cavan4ever on July 23, 2007, 04:55:13 PM
nope these are in league games aswell he players for a draw more than any other ref i know.

while talking about ref's anyone know the procedure if a person enters the field(not a player or sub) and kicks a player on the ground and punches another on the jaw. 

That person is fair game to get the living shit kicked out of him then!!!

oh you mean by rules,

I would say that the identity of that person would have to be noted,and sent to the Garda,because it is surely assault.dont know what a referee can do other than insist the person is removed from the ground before recommencing play.

The Assailant would then be banned from all GAA grounds for a period of time id say.

Happen over the weekend C4ever?

not asking for names of course,just basic details.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on July 23, 2007, 05:03:56 PM
yep happenend against ballymachugh .  One of there lads was getting a bit of a clipping near the touchline which he deserved and his daddy decided to get involved.  Referee seen all and just stood watching with his hands behind his back and when all calmed down just threw the ball up.  Very biased referee who was looking for revenge for us kicking them off the field in Bunnoe 15 years ago when he was playing. 
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on July 23, 2007, 05:07:51 PM
well if the referee is as big a **** as you say,
Then no danger in it being reported, and that tr**p who done the assault may get away free.
Unless Drung want to take it to the county board themselves.
Suprised none of ye Drung lads didnt give yer man a good clipping,
Drung were never afraid to stand back when the going got tough  ;)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on July 23, 2007, 05:08:41 PM
Quote from: cavan4ever on July 23, 2007, 04:55:13 PM
nope these are in league games aswell he players for a draw more than any other ref i know.

while talking about ref's anyone know the procedure if a person enters the field(not a player or sub) and kicks a player on the ground and punches another on the jaw. 

Probably will get a meaningless 12 month ban or something - assuming the ref bothered to get his name and report it. I seen a guy once get a 12 month ban for stamping on a guys head in a match and a few weaks later he was managing a minor team, didn't like a decision by the ref and walked onto the pitch to have words with him. Nothing said about it at all. In fairness, anyone coming out of the stand to strike a player should be banned from all GAA grounds for life IMO.

As for Packie - well they certainly love him in Cornafaen anyhow!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: shotstopper1 on July 23, 2007, 05:09:41 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on July 23, 2007, 04:28:49 PM

i believe that puts us 3 points ahead of Kingscourt and Drumlane with 3 games left.


Ye are also a point ahead of Lacken and level on points with Belturbet.


As for refs, when a player makes a mistake he has 14 other players to hide behind or when a manager makes the mistake he has the selectors as a buffer,but mostly their excuse is to blame the ref.When the ref fcuks up he's out there in the middle on his own and has to be strong enough to take all the criticism and abuse.I for one wouldn't like the job and I say fair play to the lads that do it.Refs need to concentrate for 60 mins + of the game and have eyes in the back of their heads because as we all know there's not much use relying on umpires or linesmen from either team who are well educated in giving even the 30/70 decisions to their team.Definitely there's times you'd feel like thumping them (or worse) but at the end of the day no ref no game, no matter how bad he is.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on July 23, 2007, 05:12:54 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on July 23, 2007, 05:08:41 PM
Quote from: cavan4ever on July 23, 2007, 04:55:13 PM

while talking about ref's anyone know the procedure if a person enters the field(not a player or sub) and kicks a player on the ground and punches another on the jaw. 

He didn't bother.. 

Quote from: shotstopper1 on July 23, 2007, 05:09:41 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on July 23, 2007, 04:28:49 PM

i believe that puts us 3 points ahead of Kingscourt and Drumlane with 3 games left.




As for refs, when a player makes a mistake he has 14 other players to hide behind or when a manager makes the mistake he has the selectors as a buffer,but mostly their excuse is to blame the ref.When the ref fcuks up he's out there in the middle on his own and has to be strong enough to take all the criticism and abuse.I for one wouldn't like the job and I say fair play to the lads that do it.Refs need to concentrate for 60 mins + of the game and have eyes in the back of their heads because as we all know there's not much use relying on umpires or linesmen from either team who are well educated in giving even the 30/70 decisions to their team.Definitely there's times you'd feel like thumping them (or worse) but at the end of the day no ref no game, no matter how bad he is.


Well if they don't up there standards there won't be to many young lads playing the game because someone could have got a serious injury the other evening, it was more like Aussie rules with all the fighting going on and throw-ups.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on July 23, 2007, 05:14:19 PM
 its probably not logistically posible, but neutral umpires and Linesmen are in place for championship games,could this not be extended to league games?

Shotstopper
you're correct, i for one wouldnt want to be a referee,the abuse they take is unreal.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on July 23, 2007, 05:16:30 PM
On a better note im looking forward to the Championship this weekend .  Redhills and Cootehill should be entertainng enough and ourselves and drumlane friday evening then.  Drumlane should win because we have to many injuries but hopefully we can push them the whole way and maybe get something out of it.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: shotstopper1 on July 23, 2007, 05:21:27 PM
Quote from: cavan4ever on July 23, 2007, 05:03:56 PM
yep happenend against ballymachugh .  One of there lads was getting a bit of a clipping near the touchline which he deserved and his daddy decided to get involved.  Referee seen all and just stood watching with his hands behind his back and when all calmed down just threw the ball up.  Very biased referee who was looking for revenge for us kicking them off the field in Bunnoe 15 years ago when he was playing. 

Believe the man in question(The Daddy) has a track record of assaulting players as far back as when he played himself.I'd say he retired a few men in his day,with broken legs etc.

Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on July 23, 2007, 05:07:51 PM
Suprised none of ye Drung lads didnt give yer man a good clipping,
Drung were never afraid to stand back when the going got tough  ;)

If auld Crowe got at him he'd think twice about hitting a Drung player in the future.
Surprised the cops weren't called ala Drung v Ramor last year.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on July 23, 2007, 05:22:50 PM
teams who win their first round match will have no championship action for 4 weeks, while the team/s ?(dont know how many or if its just one) who gets through the qualifying type system will have played 3 matches in that space and time.
Could work out better in the long run if you lose your first round tie!!!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: shotstopper1 on July 23, 2007, 05:24:17 PM
Quoteit was more like Aussie rules with all the fighting going on and throw-ups.


If ye stayed outta the Sod there'd be less of that going on. :)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on July 23, 2007, 05:27:25 PM
Yep ur right about the daddy shotstopper.

Sure we only had a team of young lads playing.  
Quote from: shotstopper1 on July 23, 2007, 05:24:17 PM
Quoteit was more like Aussie rules with all the fighting going on and throw-ups.


If ye stayed outta the Sod there'd be less of that going on. :)


True  :D :D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: footballmad on July 24, 2007, 10:31:18 AM
ah referees... can't live with 'em, cant play a game of football without 'em.

Quoteon a separate issue, is anybody here subscribed to gaaresults.ie?  i got an interesting text message a few days back about getting free text messages for the summer and was wondering if anybody knows what its about?

i got that message too, seems interesting enough. went to the website to check it out but could see nothing about it. was just fluting about really and accidently clicked on the spar ad on the side of the page... And like magic it took me to this page ;)

http://gaaresults.blogspot.com/

ballyhaise man, hope cullivan isn't too badly injured. he's a heavy enough set lad, if he starts picking up the injuries i'd fear for him John Tierney style!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on July 24, 2007, 11:41:01 AM
Quote from: CC1 on July 23, 2007, 05:44:15 PM
Tommy Lyons is one referee that has had a grudge against us for years, because of something that happened years and years ago between himself and one of the local "characters" to say the least. We have only won one game in the last ten years with him in charge (last year against Shannon Gaels). Should tell its own story...  :-\

Looking forward to the championship myself, Killeshandra at the weekend in BHM's back garden. Should be one of the ties of the weekend as there is history between alot of the younger lads on both sides. Both teams are packed full of u21's and that should make it a lively encounter. We lost by two points in New Inns with out our three main full forwards, Ollie Ward (ankle), Paddy McPhillips (rested) and Shane McPhillips (ribs). They are needed big time if we are to beat Killeshandra.

I just remembered a Tommy Lyons special. Throwing  the ball up between two players, missing them and hitting some guy standing behind. Anyhow, reckon my old team Killeshandra will beat ye at the weekend. They are going very well this year and seem to be peaking at the right time. It will be a tight one though.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on July 24, 2007, 11:53:22 AM
From what im hearing Cullivan will be out for around 6 months  :(

Devastating news for the club and the young man himself.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on July 24, 2007, 11:54:47 AM




CROABH CHOMÓRTAS 2007

Thursday, 26th July 2007 @ 8pm
Hotel Kilmore Intermediate Championship
Cootehill V Redhills
Venue:  Kingspan Breffni Park
Referee:  Martin Brady - Ballinagh
Linesmen:  James Clarke & Martin Sexton

Friday, 27th July 2007 @ 8pm
Hotel Kilmore Senior Championship
Drumalee V Ramor
Venue:  Lavey
Referee:  Raymond Kelly

Friday, 27th July 2007 @ 8pm
Hotel Kilmore Intermediate Championship
Ballinagh V Bailieboro
Venue:  Stradone
Referee:  Martin Sexton
Drung V Drumlane
Venue:  Kingspan Breffni Park
Referee:  Oliver O'Reilly
Linesmen:  Felim O'Reilly & Margaret Farrelly

Friday, 27th July 2007 @ 8pm
Hotel Kilmore Junior Championship
Arva V Maghera
Venue:  Ballymachugh
Referee:  Thomas Doonan
Butlersbridge V Mountnugent
Venue:  Killygarry
Referee:  Tony McDonald



Saturday, 28th July 2007 @ 7.30pm
Hotel Kilmore Senior Championship
Knockbride V Killygarry
Venue:  Ramor
Referee:  Seamus O'Connor

Saturday, 28th July 2007 @ 7.30pm
Hotel Kilmore Intermediate Championship
Ballymachugh V Lavey
Venue:  Crosserlough
Referee:  Gerry Sheridan

Saturday, 28th July 2007 @ 7.30pm
Hotel Kilmore Junior Championship
Shercock V Killeshandra
Venue: Ballyhaise
Referee:  Brian Seagrave
Munterconnacht V Templeport
Venue:  Lacken
Referee:  Mickey Lee

Sunday, 29th July 2007 @ 12.30pm
Hotel Kilmore Senior Championship
Lacken V Belturbet
Venue:  Cornafean
Referee:  Packie Smith
Linesmen:  Ollie Donohoe & Ronan Bannon 

Sunday, 29th July 2007 @ 2pm
Hotel Kilmore Junior Championship
Corlough V Cornafean
Venue:  Kildallon
Referee:  John Emmo

Sunday, 29th July 2007 @ 2.15pm
Hotel Kilmore Senior Championship
Mullahoran V Denn
Venue:  Kingspan Breffni Park
Referee:  Jimmy Galligan - Killygarry
Linesmen:  Daniel Luby & Harry Conaty




Sunday, 29th July 2007 @ 3pm
Hotel Kilmore Senior Championship
Kingscourt V Cuchullains
Venue:  Bailieboro
Referee:  Darren Ward

Sunday, 29th July 2007 @ 3.45pm
Hotel Kilmore Senior Championship
Castlerahan V Crosserlough
Venue:  Kingspan Breffni Park
Referee:  Brian Crowe
Linesmen:  Mickey Lee & Damien Brady

Sunday, 29th July 2007 @ 7.30pm
Hotel Kilmore Senior Championship
Gowna V Cavan Gaels
Venue:  Kingspan Breffni Park
Referee:  Jimmy Galligan - Lacken
Linesmen:  Oliver Henry & Tony McDonald

Sunday, 29th July 2007 @ 3pm
Hotel Kilmore Intermediate Championship
Drumgoon V Kill
Venue:  Cootehill
Referee:  Kieran McGovern
Laragh V Killinkere
Venue:  Drumalee
Referee:  M.G. Brady

Sunday, 29th July 2007 @ 4pm
Hotel Kilmore Intermediate Championship
Ballyhaise V Swanlinbar
Venue:  Drumlane
Referee:  Martin Brady - Lacken

Sunday, 29th July 2007 @ 5pm
Hotel Kilmore Junior Championship
Kildallon V Shannon Gaels
Venue:  Templeport
Referee:  Michael Lyons

Suspensions:
Stephen Colwell, Ballyhaise, rest of the game 29/06/2007.
Tomas Rogers, Kingscourt, rest of the game 29/06/2007.
Joe Crowe, Lacken, rest of the game 22/06/2007.
Paddy McNamee, Cuchullains, 8 weeks effective from 22/06/2007.
Patrick Brady, Gowna, 4 weeks plus next game in competition effective from 08/07/2007.
Philip Yore, Maghera, 8 weeks effective from 29/06/2007.
Michael Shanaghey, Lacken 4 weeks plus next game in competition effective from 04/07/2007.




Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on July 24, 2007, 12:23:30 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on July 23, 2007, 04:28:49 PM
have you every came across such an absolute tool of a referee as him on Saturday night? an absolute loony.

As the last two pages of this thread shows BallyhaiseMan we come across them far too often. Our secretary takes stats at our matches just for reference after games and he counted us being pulled up 9 times for over-carrying after averaging 2-3 so far this season. I know a lot of the lads were watching the Dubs in the Leinster final but come on!

Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on July 24, 2007, 11:53:22 AM
From what im hearing Cullivan will be out for around 6 months  :(

Devastating news for the club and the young man himself.

Bad news for Ballyhaise and Ray alright. I presume that injury occurred on the way into the tackle with McDermott rather than a result of it BhaiseMan? Also is this a re-occurrence of the injury earlier this year.

Damien McInerney strained his hamstring again moments after being introduced on Saturday and also looks set to miss the championship. On the other hand Gaynor and Niall O'Reilly were out last weekend due to dead legs and should be fit to play against Bailieboro. I believe Podge is also flying home on Thursday night and he may yet play some part in the tie.

I see we have Martin Sexton refereeing on Friday night. Don't know much about him, anybody know what he's like?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on July 24, 2007, 12:33:06 PM
Yes Homer
he shipped two tackles and got caught at a very bad angle when the third tackle in quick sucession hit.

Its a much worse injury than the one earlier in the year.

Dont think you will have any problems with Baileborough,They are facing likely relegation to Division 3.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: shotstopper1 on July 24, 2007, 01:03:02 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on July 24, 2007, 11:53:22 AM
From what im hearing Cullivan will be out for around 6 months  :(

Devastating news for the club and the young man himself.

Cullivan's initially injured his knee playing for DCU and then aggravated it again in the Ballyhaise v Denn game.Seems he never got it looked at properly.On Sat evening he hurted the knee after climbing on McDermotts (I think,maybe T Smiths) back to catch a ball,his studs got caught in the jersey and he landed awkwardly.He should've went off then,but instead stayed on only to suffer further damage in the tackle with McDermott.Heard that the father was was supposed to bring him to the hospital after the game but didn't, and then he had to go in later that night as the pain was severe.As footbalmad said unfortunately looks like he could be heading the John Tierney way, a great pity indeed.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on July 24, 2007, 03:31:54 PM
**Groans**

Not another one for the scrapheap, surely? It seems that all half decent youngsters in Cavan either get injured, get burned out through overuse or if they come through the early portion of the careers unscathed against the odds, simply don't have the commitment.

I'm full of the joys today. ::)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Gnevin on July 25, 2007, 08:49:39 AM
Quote from: The Bottom Brick on July 23, 2007, 04:33:30 PM
Oliver Og Reilly is the worst. most ignorant ref I have ever come across.

reffed us in a league match against Shercock a couple of yearts ago, I jogged past and asked him "what's the score", to which he growled

"Are ya blind? Can ya not see the fukin score board". I mean that's a joke. He destroyed that match, giving us everything early on (we went seven or eigth up) and then doing the opposite at the end, including giving a last minute free for a lift ball by Adrian Fitz which was about a foot off the ground! Of corse, Jody Clakre tapped over the equaliser

If he was just ignorant it wouldn't be as bad (like Pappy "Shut your fuckin mouth" Woods!), but he's a terrible, vindictive excuse for a ref.

See he reffed a couple of games in the Ulster MFC this year - times are bad, that's for sure...
Yearts= Years?
eigth= eight ?
corse = course?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on July 25, 2007, 08:54:34 AM
Quote from: Gnevin on July 25, 2007, 08:49:39 AM
Yearts= Years?
eigth= eight ?
corse = course?

Whats your problem?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Gnevin on July 25, 2007, 08:56:09 AM
Quote from: cavan4ever on July 25, 2007, 08:54:34 AM
Quote from: Gnevin on July 25, 2007, 08:49:39 AM
Yearts= Years?
eigth= eight ?
corse = course?

Whats your problem?
Bottom brick has found it very useful to point out my spelling errors I'm just returning the favour.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on July 25, 2007, 08:58:08 AM
The pair of use should go back to school and learn your spellings then.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Gnevin on July 25, 2007, 09:00:15 AM
Quote from: cavan4ever on July 25, 2007, 08:58:08 AM
The pair of use should go back to school and learn your spellings then.
Jesus their is a lot of Muppets on high horses from cavan , at least I've admitted by spelling is cat.
:o
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on July 25, 2007, 09:02:49 AM
Your the Muppet
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: CavanCola on July 25, 2007, 09:31:16 AM
Quote from: Gnevin on July 25, 2007, 09:00:15 AM
Quote from: cavan4ever on July 25, 2007, 08:58:08 AM
The pair of use should go back to school and learn your spellings then.
Jesus their is a lot of Muppets on high horses from cavan , at least I've admitted by spelling is cat.
:o


What does "I've admitted by spelling is cat" mean exactly?
I think you need some grammar lessons as well.

Your on the Caaavan message thread now, so ya are. We'll educate ya.  ;D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on July 25, 2007, 09:41:34 AM
Gnevin is a hero member, 1300+ posts. One hint, you might consider changing your signature to "Quantity over Quality". Seriously Cavan lads, lets not entertain these two clowns anymore and stick to talking about Cavan GAA matters.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on July 25, 2007, 10:24:56 AM
Quote from: Gnevin on July 25, 2007, 08:58:08 AM
What does "I've admitted by spelling is cat" mean exactly?

Cats can spell? Allow me while I paws fur a minute to digest that. That's some tail altogether.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: CC1 on July 25, 2007, 10:41:04 AM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on July 24, 2007, 11:41:01 AMAnyhow, reckon my old team Killeshandra will beat ye at the weekend. They are going very well this year and seem to be peaking at the right time. It will be a tight one though.
We'll just have to see this weekend, mts... ;)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Maximus Marillius on July 25, 2007, 12:59:33 PM
Looking at placing a bet on the Cavan club championship, I am considering Castlerahan, is it worth my while or am I throwing my money away?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on July 25, 2007, 01:57:11 PM
Quote from: Maximus Marillius on July 25, 2007, 12:59:33 PM
Looking at placing a bet on the Cavan club championship, I am considering Castlerahan, is it worth my while or am I throwing my money away?

Keep your money in your pocket. 
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on July 25, 2007, 02:08:06 PM
Quote from: Maximus Marillius on July 25, 2007, 12:59:33 PM
Looking at placing a bet on the Cavan club championship, I am considering Castlerahan, is it worth my while or am I throwing my money away?

they are an outside bet Max,then again every team other than Mullahoran and the Gaels are,migth be worth a punt if you've money to lose,but i just cant see them winning it,They have a tought first round tie against the now Rory Gallagher less Crosserlough.

i dont think the senior championship is going anywhere except to Cavan Gaels im afraid,They are more focused this year it seems than any year i remember.Malachy O Rourke has done a good job there.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on July 25, 2007, 02:30:54 PM
Quote from: Maximus Marillius on July 25, 2007, 12:59:33 PM
Looking at placing a bet on the Cavan club championship, I am considering Castlerahan, is it worth my while or am I throwing my money away?

They're a half decent little team but judging by the U21 final last year, a team supplying alot of seniors judging by reports, they are too light and too fond of shortpassing so are easily bottled up by a physical team. They'll be better than most but no match for the big guns. Someone said the Gaels gave them a proper trimming recently. Hard to see the title ending up anywhere other than with the Gaels to be honest.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: ExiledGael on July 25, 2007, 06:51:29 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on July 25, 2007, 02:08:06 PM
Quote from: Maximus Marillius on July 25, 2007, 12:59:33 PM
Looking at placing a bet on the Cavan club championship, I am considering Castlerahan, is it worth my while or am I throwing my money away?

they are an outside bet Max,then again every team other than Mullahoran and the Gaels are,migth be worth a punt if you've money to lose,but i just cant see them winning it,They have a tought first round tie against the now Rory Gallagher less Crosserlough.

i dont think the senior championship is going anywhere except to Cavan Gaels im afraid,They are more focused this year it seems than any year i remember.Malachy O Rourke has done a good job there.

Seems to be talk of him leaving for Fermanagh job?
Was he a success in Cavan?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: lynchbhoy on July 26, 2007, 11:31:25 AM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on July 25, 2007, 02:08:06 PM
they are an outside bet Max,then again every team other than Mullahoran and the Gaels are,migth be worth a punt if you've money to lose,but i just cant see them winning it,They have a tought first round tie against the now Rory Gallagher less Crosserlough.

was wondering when that would get out..

still , I believe he is eligible and willing to play for Cavan again next year.
IMO I didnt think he was really wanted or appreciated in Cavan.....
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on July 26, 2007, 11:45:32 AM
Quote from: lynchbhoy on July 26, 2007, 11:31:25 AM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on July 25, 2007, 02:08:06 PM
they are an outside bet Max,then again every team other than Mullahoran and the Gaels are,migth be worth a punt if you've money to lose,but i just cant see them winning it,They have a tought first round tie against the now Rory Gallagher less Crosserlough.

was wondering when that would get out..

still , I believe he is eligible and willing to play for Cavan again next year.
IMO I didnt think he was really wanted or appreciated in Cavan.....

It's been out a while Lynchbhoy,

http://gaaboard.com/board/index.php?topic=53.msg122558#msg122558 (http://gaaboard.com/board/index.php?topic=53.msg122558#msg122558)

And I'm 100% sure he isn't eligible to play with Cavan next year.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Hollow Man on July 26, 2007, 12:19:17 PM
Quotestill , I believe he is eligible and willing to play for Cavan again next year.
IMO I didnt think he was really wanted or appreciated in Cavan.....

He's not eligible.

He wasn't "appreciated" - what a joke. He was useless, slowest forward I've seen this year and afraid to shoot when the pressure came on (in Croker v Ros for example, he was offloading 20 yards out instead of having a go).

Crosserlough are furious. He didn't train with them once and only turned up with his gear for three matches. Poor Rory, he wasn't appreciated.

Apparently he scored 1-12 in ten games for Cavan, about 1-3 of which came from play.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: lynchbhoy on July 26, 2007, 12:35:49 PM
Havent heard much from the player himself, but as I was watching with interest, I just didnt see that he was accepted too readily - but thats human nature.

As for calling him fat and useless - well people are entitled to their opinions, but he has a proven track record in the ulster championship, and has proven himself in Dublin club league and championship - and its not as if Cavan have too many supreme scoring forwards in their ranks, or even players that would be better than Rory.

Obv in my opinion, but I cant apologise for thinking your opinion on this,  is old school bog warrior outsider hater type of stuff.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: lynchbhoy on July 26, 2007, 12:47:12 PM
Quote from: inisceithleann on July 20, 2007, 05:35:23 PM
one has to a the question why cavan entertained him at all? i suppose it had the potential to work out, but when any man plays for his own county's rivals and was training with cavan only a few miles from the fermanagh/cavan border you'd have to ask questions.

After a falling out with Fermanagh, th players want him back , but a couple of the current backroom staff refuse to allow him to return.
Gallagher and a large proportion of the squad want him to. My source is a brother of one of the Fermanager team stars.

Crosserlough were picked for him to join, it was known by the club when he joined that this was a marraige of convenience, a 'phantom' job was given (to get his transfer into Cavan) - he was never really going to feature much with the club, alsthough that the plan to transfer immediately back to St Brigids once Cavan were out was a not public knowledge beforehand.

However, and this wont surprise Cavan folk - donal keoghan is not exactly telling the truth.
He knew this was the plan when Gallagher signed up.


Thansk for the info homer - I can see why Gallagher is being critiscised, but its not all just him. The county board/cavan mgt agreed this before he joined Cavan from what I am being told.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on July 26, 2007, 01:07:02 PM
Quote from: lynchbhoy on July 26, 2007, 12:47:12 PM

Thansk for the info homer - I can see why Gallagher is being critiscised, but its not all just him. The county board/cavan mgt agreed this before he joined Cavan from what I am being told.


He is  been critiscised because he was useless and didn't look interested when he was playing. He was afraid to go down on the ball and afraid to shoot.  I don't think anybody is too bothered that he is gone .
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: CC1 on July 26, 2007, 01:20:25 PM
Quote from: lynchbhoy on July 26, 2007, 12:35:49 PMand its not as if Cavan have too many supreme scoring forwards in their ranks, or even players that would be better than Rory.
I think many people would beg to differ with you on that. I could name at least 8 forwards in the county that are better than Rory at this moment in time.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on July 26, 2007, 01:46:42 PM
Have to agree with the Cavan posters. Gallagher showed us sweet FA in his time here. I was expecting a lot from a man with something to prove. Instead we got a player who showed no balls or fight or passion for one minute for Cavan. All he did this year was take the place of another Cavan man who might not have the same skill level but would certainly give 100% for Cavan. I won't miss him and Fermanagh aren't either.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Hollow Man on July 26, 2007, 01:54:00 PM
Me too CC1

Larry
Jason
Johnston
Eddie R
Mackey
Danny Brady
Finbar Reilly
Sean Brady
Ray Cullivan

are all better from what I've seen of Gallagher in a Cavan jersey. Pluse a good few more I would say.

QuoteAs for calling him fat and useless - well people are entitled to their opinions, but he has a proven track record in the ulster championship, and has proven himself in Dublin club league and championship - and its not as if Cavan have too many supreme scoring forwards in their ranks, or even players that would be better than Rory.

Obv in my opinion, but I cant apologise for thinking your opinion on this,  is old school bog warrior outsider hater type of stuff.

Who called him fat? Handy little piece of fiction to aid your argument there Lynchbhoy...

He wasn't liekd because, in the words of one Cavan legend of the 90s, "Gallagher played with wing mirrors"! Funny but true. This isn't "bog warrior outside hating" - I remeber we had a fella from Cork called Paul murphy and he was very popular beacuse his heart was in it. Meath man Mickey Brennan ditto.

It's because he was slow, never put in a hit (the throught of him hiting hard provokes a smile) and then abandoned club and county.

This "phantom job" thing - are you saying you condone that? That a player with absolutely no ties (eg work or residence) with a county should transfer to them? Personally, I am against any sort of inter county transfer system. You obviously are in favour of it.

Look, you obviously know Gallagher just as we all know county players. He may be a sound chap, but he was terrible in a Cavan jersey and pulled a dirty stroke at the end, whether or not the county board or management was complicit. FACT!


Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: lynchbhoy on July 26, 2007, 02:30:12 PM
Quote from: Hollow Man on July 26, 2007, 01:54:00 PM
are all better from what I've seen of Gallagher in a Cavan jersey. Pluse a good few more I would say.

QuoteAs for calling him fat and useless - well people are entitled to their opinions, but he has a proven track record in the ulster championship, and has proven himself in Dublin club league and championship - and its not as if Cavan have too many supreme scoring forwards in their ranks, or even players that would be better than Rory.

Obv in my opinion, but I cant apologise for thinking your opinion on this,  is old school bog warrior outsider hater type of stuff.

Who called him fat? Handy little piece of fiction to aid your argument there Lynchbhoy...

He wasn't liekd because, in the words of one Cavan legend of the 90s, "Gallagher played with wing mirrors"! Funny but true. This isn't "bog warrior outside hating" - I remeber we had a fella from Cork called Paul murphy and he was very popular beacuse his heart was in it. Meath man Mickey Brennan ditto.

It's because he was slow, never put in a hit (the throught of him hiting hard provokes a smile) and then abandoned club and county.

This "phantom job" thing - are you saying you condone that? That a player with absolutely no ties (eg work or residence) with a county should transfer to them? Personally, I am against any sort of inter county transfer system. You obviously are in favour of it.

Look, you obviously know Gallagher just as we all know county players. He may be a sound chap, but he was terrible in a Cavan jersey and pulled a dirty stroke at the end, whether or not the county board or management was complicit. FACT!
I would be somewhat of a Cavan fan (for a good few years now - long before I married a cavan girl) so I would like to see them do well.
I can understand what you all say and think about Gallagher, but he is still quite young, so whatever pace he had - he still should have (point being pace is not or never was part of his game) - his track record as a scorer esp in the ulster championship speaks for itself.
I think that as a scoring forward I would not rate more than possibly one of the players mentioned above Gallagher (Larry too a few years back).
Sure Mad Eddie isnt even on the squad (and I wont start on again about Gaynor).
Its obv my opinion.
what I will suggest is that players that transfer rarely prosper. For every Larry tomkins, there are a hundred ray cunninghhams/Rory Gallaghers etc.

The guy did not play up to the high standard he is capable of - I will agree to that
but as he has played v well already with St Brigids - then it is down to two things - did he want it bad enough and secondly did he get the kind of help/backup/support/service from his new team mates.

I dont know him well, but think cavan players (and supporters) didnt do what it took to get the best out of this guy.
He certainly was VERY keen on playing for Cavan when he enthusiastically told me about the whole venture a few months back.
If you cavan folk are happy to see the back of him then thats life.
That will be St Brigids gain.
Another thing - its Castleknock that the club is based , which is a bit of another mistruth quoted in the paper (Celt?)
The first lie - was keoghans not knowing of it all a few months before this took place.

Best of luck in the championship to Ballinagh and Mullahoran
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on July 26, 2007, 02:41:55 PM
Quote from: lynchbhoy on July 26, 2007, 02:30:12 PM
what I will suggest is that players that transfer rarely prosper. For every Larry tomkins, there are a hundred ray cunninghhams...

The same Raymond Cunningham that kicked that all important point [sic] against Derry in 97  ;)


Quote
Best of luck in the championship to Ballinagh and Mullahoran

Cheers Lynchbhoy  :)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Hollow Man on July 26, 2007, 02:47:53 PM
Raymond Cunningham lived in Kingscourt, inside the Cavan county boundary, but in Kilmainhamwood parish funnily enough.

Sure the fella had about ten All Ireland handball medals representing Kingscourt Handball Club and Cavan before he even switched to the Stars for football.

Gallagher ws slow as hell, in terms of running for the ball and his decision making. How many times did Pierson or Jayo make a run expecting a McCabe style delivery only for Gallagher to hang on to it, soloing around in the same spot?

Who called Gallagher fat Lynchbhoy?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: lynchbhoy on July 26, 2007, 02:55:24 PM
Quote from: Hollow Man on July 26, 2007, 02:47:53 PM
Who called Gallagher fat Lynchbhoy?
jeezuz
since you are honing in on this one, then its not from the board, its from a discussion i had with a cavan friend of mine.
The usual - lazy/useless/slow/afraid/not wanting to put it in/ not wanting to bend for the ball kind or tripe was punctuated by him being 'Fat' as well !
But the list of negative attributes comeing from cavan folk about him is growing rapidly

so its not you who i was quoting, though your focus on this one point/comment/aspect is quite bemusing  ???
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Hollow Man on July 26, 2007, 02:58:40 PM
Gallaghers shite, I win the argument, good night! ;)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: lynchbhoy on July 26, 2007, 03:09:23 PM
Quote from: Hollow Man on July 26, 2007, 02:58:40 PM
Gallaghers shite, I win the argument, good night! ;)
good enough if thats what you think
the shitiest player ever to score 3-9 in the ulster championship....(sure its easy done and no doubt any one or all of those aforementioned Cavan hot shots will soon emulate this easy feat)

::)

btw such debates/discussions are not about 'winning'...its a long time since I left primary (hedge) school
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on July 26, 2007, 03:19:03 PM
Quote from: lynchbhoy on July 26, 2007, 03:09:23 PM
Quote from: Hollow Man on July 26, 2007, 02:58:40 PM
Gallaghers shite, I win the argument, good night! ;)
good enough if thats what you think
the shitiest player ever to score 3-9 in the ulster championship....(sure its easy done and no doubt any one or all of those aforementioned Cavan hot shots will soon emulate this easy feat)

::)

btw such debates/discussions are not about 'winning'...its a long time since I left primary (hedge) school

He wasn't interested for whatever reason lynchboy, you seem to know him so if you seem him soon ask him how come it didn't work out for him.  I wouldn't go as far to say that he is crap he has proved himself before but in the cavan jersey he looked like a fellow that didn't want to be there.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Maximus Marillius on July 26, 2007, 03:27:35 PM
Quotebut in the cavan jersey he looked like a fellow that didn't want to be there.


Reminds me of a number of Cavan players who are from cavan who looked like they did not want to be there...judging by their performances
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on July 26, 2007, 03:30:49 PM
Quote from: Maximus Marillius on July 26, 2007, 03:27:35 PM
Quotebut in the cavan jersey he looked like a fellow that didn't want to be there.


Reminds me of a number of Cavan players who are from cavan who looked like they did not want to be there...judging by their performances

They didn't go to the trouble of transfering clubs and making up jobs to play for the county though. 
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Hollow Man on July 26, 2007, 03:49:26 PM
Jeez Louise. Take it easy Lynchbhoy, it was a joke, you know, a "ha ha", a funny... as indicated by the -->  ;)

Gallagher scored 3-9 (including two penalties, that never gets mentioned) for Fermanagh six years ago I think, I was at it. For whatever reason, he can't do it anymore at county level.

He played 10 games for Cavan and was ordinary in every one. In some of them (crunch league matches I'm thinking of eg Sligo, Wexford, Roscommon) he barely even got a kick.

Surely in ten matches, he'd do something of note?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: lynchbhoy on July 26, 2007, 04:01:17 PM
Quote from: cavan4ever on July 26, 2007, 03:19:03 PM
Quote from: lynchbhoy on July 26, 2007, 03:09:23 PM
Quote from: Hollow Man on July 26, 2007, 02:58:40 PM
Gallaghers shite, I win the argument, good night! ;)
good enough if thats what you think
the shitiest player ever to score 3-9 in the ulster championship....(sure its easy done and no doubt any one or all of those aforementioned Cavan hot shots will soon emulate this easy feat)

::)

btw such debates/discussions are not about 'winning'...its a long time since I left primary (hedge) school

He wasn't interested for whatever reason lynchboy, you seem to know him so if you seem him soon ask him how come it didn't work out for him.  I wouldn't go as far to say that he is crap he has proved himself before but in the cavan jersey he looked like a fellow that didn't want to be there.
wont or cannot disagree (not that I am looking to do so).
I would say the underlying problem is in the 'integration'
This is a two way thing so I would say that both parties will not be blameless...

no prob HM - was trying (misreably it seems) inject some humour in that post. Shows that a boring hoor like me cant be funny.

I'd ask the same question about the rest of the Cavan forwards though....
Not too many apart from maybe the second half of the drawn Down game - can say they looked good. (loads of effort is great but is still the square root of fcuk all)
But I did not see Cavan play much this year so my comments can only be on RG and what he is capable of.

IMO - transferring to another county (and club) generally never works.


Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on July 26, 2007, 06:06:31 PM
Maybe Rory will prosper elsewhere and live up to his reputation but he has done nothing but sully it in the last six months, both on and off the field.

This guy was always one that was mentioned as a 'problem player' and a negative influence in the Fermanagh dressing room. Touch of the primadonnas about him and there was one particularly scurrilous rumour about him, before leaving Ernemen the first time, that I wouldn't even mention here, even though my source is quite good. It's noticeable how the team did much better than heretofore under Dom Corrigan(?) the year Rory left. Players nor managers wanted him, all were glad to be shut of him. With the passing of time maybe those feelings have dimmed and some want him back but he's not being given a continued wide berth for no reason.

He has done okay - just okay Dubs tell me - in the SFC in the capital. He was linked with the Dublin panel at one stage remember, until Tommy Lyons blew it out of the water even if Gallagher himself wasn't quoted, which is the norm. Then he arrived in Cavan and despite some grumblings the majority were very willing to give him a chance. He got ample gametime in the blue shirt but singularly and utterly failed to impress and this cannot be down to integration problems alone.
Not having the balls to shoot from 14 yards dead in front of goal, or pulling out of tackles, has nothing to do with not being made feel welcome if indeed that was ever the case. Not turning up for training is hardly a sound way of integrating oneself with a new group in any case, but the best way of all to get over any barriers there might have been was to get out and do the business on the pitch, which he simply and abjectly failed to do.
The mercenary whiff about his leavetaking is entirely in keeping with the reputation he has in Fermanagh and frankly, bad though we are, we have alot of forwards in the county way better than this chap who's afraid to shoot and brings nothing to the team.

I'm sure he's an okay sort of fella lynchbhoy but his intercounty days would appear to be behind him.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: ExiledGael on July 26, 2007, 07:05:48 PM
Quote from: cavanmaniac on July 26, 2007, 06:06:31 PM
Maybe Rory will prosper elsewhere and live up to his reputation but he has done nothing but sully it in the last six months, both on and off the field.

This guy was always one that was mentioned as a 'problem player' and a negative influence in the Fermanagh dressing room. Touch of the primadonnas about him and there was one particularly scurrilous rumour about him, before leaving Ernemen the first time, that I wouldn't even mention here, even though my source is quite good. It's noticeable how the team did much better than heretofore under Dom Corrigan(?) the year Rory left. Players nor managers wanted him, all were glad to be shut of him. With the passing of time maybe those feelings have dimmed and some want him back but he's not being given a continued wide berth for no reason.

He has done okay - just okay Dubs tell me - in the SFC in the capital. He was linked with the Dublin panel at one stage remember, until Tommy Lyons blew it out of the water even if Gallagher himself wasn't quoted, which is the norm. Then he arrived in Cavan and despite some grumblings the majority were very willing to give him a chance. He got ample gametime in the blue shirt but singularly and utterly failed to impress and this cannot be down to integration problems alone.
Not having the balls to shoot from 14 yards dead in front of goal, or pulling out of tackles, has nothing to do with not being made feel welcome if indeed that was ever the case. Not turning up for training is hardly a sound way of integrating oneself with a new group in any case, but the best way of all to get over any barriers there might have been was to get out and do the business on the pitch, which he simply and abjectly failed to do.
The mercenary whiff about his leavetaking is entirely in keeping with the reputation he has in Fermanagh and frankly, bad though we are, we have alot of forwards in the county way better than this chap who's afraid to shoot and brings nothing to the team.

I'm sure he's an okay sort of fella lynchbhoy but his intercounty days would appear to be behind him.


Simple rule, when Rory Gallagher leaves your squad/team you're better off.
Some of the things he has done over the years are a disgrace to the teams he's played on, and I've witnessed some of these
Great talent with the ball in his day, though always cowardly. His 3-9 against Monaghan was absolutely hilarious as I was on the hill among a group of Farney friends, but he has a terrible attitude
Bad bad news, end of story!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: inisceithleann on July 26, 2007, 07:21:38 PM
Quote from: ExiledGael on July 26, 2007, 07:05:48 PM
Quote from: cavanmaniac on July 26, 2007, 06:06:31 PM
Maybe Rory will prosper elsewhere and live up to his reputation but he has done nothing but sully it in the last six months, both on and off the field.

This guy was always one that was mentioned as a 'problem player' and a negative influence in the Fermanagh dressing room. Touch of the primadonnas about him and there was one particularly scurrilous rumour about him, before leaving Ernemen the first time, that I wouldn't even mention here, even though my source is quite good. It's noticeable how the team did much better than heretofore under Dom Corrigan(?) the year Rory left. Players nor managers wanted him, all were glad to be shut of him. With the passing of time maybe those feelings have dimmed and some want him back but he's not being given a continued wide berth for no reason.

He has done okay - just okay Dubs tell me - in the SFC in the capital. He was linked with the Dublin panel at one stage remember, until Tommy Lyons blew it out of the water even if Gallagher himself wasn't quoted, which is the norm. Then he arrived in Cavan and despite some grumblings the majority were very willing to give him a chance. He got ample gametime in the blue shirt but singularly and utterly failed to impress and this cannot be down to integration problems alone.
Not having the balls to shoot from 14 yards dead in front of goal, or pulling out of tackles, has nothing to do with not being made feel welcome if indeed that was ever the case. Not turning up for training is hardly a sound way of integrating oneself with a new group in any case, but the best way of all to get over any barriers there might have been was to get out and do the business on the pitch, which he simply and abjectly failed to do.
The mercenary whiff about his leavetaking is entirely in keeping with the reputation he has in Fermanagh and frankly, bad though we are, we have alot of forwards in the county way better than this chap who's afraid to shoot and brings nothing to the team.

I'm sure he's an okay sort of fella lynchbhoy but his intercounty days would appear to be behind him.


Simple rule, when Rory Gallagher leaves your squad/team you're better off.
Some of the things he has done over the years are a disgrace to the teams he's played on, and I've witnessed some of these
Great talent with the ball in his day, though always cowardly. His 3-9 against Monaghan was absolutely hilarious as I was on the hill among a group of Farney friends, but he has a terrible attitude
Bad bad news, end of story!

Fermanagh a better team without gallagher? it's possible but based on what evidence. Aparts from the great run in 2004 fermanagh have faltered the last 2 years and our main problem has been in the forwards. Don't get me wrong i'm not rory's biggest fan but a county as small as fermanagh cannot do without a player of gallaghers ability. if he can sort out his attitude and become a real team player i'd be delighted to have him back. the chances are, if the new fermanagh manager comes from within the county and knows rory personally he'll be asked back, especially if the senior players on the fermanagh panel want it.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: ExiledGael on July 26, 2007, 07:32:43 PM
Don't think he could contribute much now apart from frees and Brewster (left) and O'Reilly (right) have those bases covered.
Last year we got to the last twelve, lost very narrowly to Meath this year to reach that stage again, nothing less than what we done with him in the side.
He is around 30 now anyway, is he playing with a club in Dublin again now?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: inisceithleann on July 26, 2007, 07:42:07 PM
i thought he was heading back to st. brigid's? i know we have o'reilly and tom brew, but o'reilly doesn't contribute enough from play and tom has struggled with injury. we need strength and depth. rory's only 29, probably the age were most players are at their peak. i know fermanagh have employed little and maguire on the wings but this is too predictable. with rory in team we have another option, especially him in at full forward which is a problem position. as lynchbhoy stated any player who scores 3-9 in the ulster championship is a bit special. what harm would it be to have him back. it might pay off and we'll do no worse than we did this season and i think the next fermanagh manager will take the gamble.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: ExiledGael on July 26, 2007, 08:27:57 PM
These were all the same arguments being touted about in 2005, after doing so well, the two Gallaghers came back and we got knocked out in first round of Championship and qualifiers.
Gallaghers both pissed off, Rory then appeared in Cavan, now he's gone again, I think, too much trouble, not worth it.
A real waste of a talent, would love to see a properly focused Rory Gallagher in the green shirt, but over the years he has led me to believe that person doesn't exist
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: inisceithleann on July 26, 2007, 08:52:35 PM
ExiledGael we'll just have to agree to disagree on the gallagher issue. but in my opinion, if we're honest, we're going to struggle to win an ulster title with the current panel and what real talent is coming through? there's lads on the panel that are nowhere near county standard. just because he's a player with a poor attitude doesn't mean he should be overlooked, sure every county has their prima donnas. what about geraghty with meath? depsite all his faults as an individual, they took him back  because he's a lethal footballer and a rory gallagher on form is as well.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: ExiledGael on July 26, 2007, 09:15:59 PM
OK agreed
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Hollow Man on July 27, 2007, 10:17:06 AM
QuoteMaybe Rory will prosper elsewhere and live up to his reputation but he has done nothing but sully it in the last six months, both on and off the field.

This guy was always one that was mentioned as a 'problem player' and a negative influence in the Fermanagh dressing room. Touch of the primadonnas about him and there was one particularly scurrilous rumour about him, before leaving Ernemen the first time, that I wouldn't even mention here, even though my source is quite good. It's noticeable how the team did much better than heretofore under Dom Corrigan(?) the year Rory left. Players nor managers wanted him, all were glad to be shut of him. With the passing of time maybe those feelings have dimmed and some want him back but he's not being given a continued wide berth for no reason.

He has done okay - just okay Dubs tell me - in the SFC in the capital. He was linked with the Dublin panel at one stage remember, until Tommy Lyons blew it out of the water even if Gallagher himself wasn't quoted, which is the norm. Then he arrived in Cavan and despite some grumblings the majority were very willing to give him a chance. He got ample gametime in the blue shirt but singularly and utterly failed to impress and this cannot be down to integration problems alone.
Not having the balls to shoot from 14 yards dead in front of goal, or pulling out of tackles, has nothing to do with not being made feel welcome if indeed that was ever the case. Not turning up for training is hardly a sound way of integrating oneself with a new group in any case, but the best way of all to get over any barriers there might have been was to get out and do the business on the pitch, which he simply and abjectly failed to do.
The mercenary whiff about his leavetaking is entirely in keeping with the reputation he has in Fermanagh and frankly, bad though we are, we have alot of forwards in the county way better than this chap who's afraid to shoot and brings nothing to the team.

I'm sure he's an okay sort of fella lynchbhoy but his intercounty days would appear to be behind him.

Absolutely brilliant post.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: shotstopper1 on July 27, 2007, 10:29:29 AM
Quote from: inisceithleann on July 26, 2007, 07:42:07 PM
any player who scores 3-9 in the ulster championship is a bit special.

Maybe so but one swallow doesn't make a summer.He played 3 other championship games that year and scored 1-9 in total in the 3.

Quote from: inisceithleann on July 26, 2007, 08:52:35 PM
individual, they took him back  because he's a lethal footballer and a rory gallagher on form is as well.

The difference is ,that it's being a long time since Gallagher has being in form.

As for not being accepted in Cavan, one of the biggest cheers this year in Breffni was when he made his debut in the last minutes of a McKenna Cup game and scored a point.Down through the years Cavan have had many outsiders play for them and fully accepted by the supporters once they pulled on the blue jersey, Gallagher included.I for one don't believe he got anymore criticism on the field of play than any of the other players when they fcuked up.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on July 27, 2007, 11:07:29 AM
Quote from: shotstopper1 on July 27, 2007, 10:29:29 AM

.I for one don't believe he got anymore criticism on the field of play than any of the other players when they fcuked up.

He probably did get more criticism but that was down to his half-hearted attitude which was obvious to everyone.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: shotstopper1 on July 27, 2007, 11:22:47 AM
Quote from: cavan4ever on July 27, 2007, 11:07:29 AM
Quote from: shotstopper1 on July 27, 2007, 10:29:29 AM

.I for one don't believe he got anymore criticism on the field of play than any of the other players when they fcuked up.

He probably did get more criticism but that was down to his half-hearted attitude which was obvious to everyone.

Maybe , but I was at a right few games this year and on leaving the various grounds people were equally as critical about the form of Mckeever,the full back line, the full forward line , etc., as they were of Gallaghers form.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on July 27, 2007, 11:37:46 AM
In fairness Homer the bould Maniac can have his uses on this board, only betimes mind.

I have a mate down here who is a fanatical follower of Fermanagh's fortunes. When the Rory transfer came through he more or less said to me-you're welcome to him. Bit of a prima donna, bit of a mouth, wants to run the show, not willing to put the effort in etc. Said to myself should fit right into our set up so.

Being serious, looks like Rory's best days have been behind him for a bit too long and he was only ever going to give us more of what we already have enough of-a forward with some bit of ability but not a team player or a target man. Now if he had the makings of a ball winning midfielder or a working full back it might have been a different story.

In summary-right man, wrong time, wrong position and an attitude which we don't seem to need to import. Pity.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: inisceithleann on July 27, 2007, 11:39:33 AM
In fairness lads, i haven't seen anything of rory gallagher this year and i suppose you fellas are in a better position to judge his current form etc. In my defence, i'm thinking back to the good days rory had in a fermanagh jersey, and it'd be great if we could get that player back, but i suppose it looks like we won't. He may have a poor enough attitude but he is a great sportsman. I remember him playing soccer for my own club in enniskillen and watching him play for the North when he was 17. He was head and shoulders above the rest, a real classy centre half. I think he was on the books of celtic and probably could have made it. Maybe the fact that he didn't tells his own tale. But, you never know. Who would have predicted he'd end up playing for Cavan. It's not implausible that he'll play for fermanagh again, whether we think it's worth the hassle or not.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: CavanCola on July 27, 2007, 03:46:51 PM
Quote from: ExiledGael on July 26, 2007, 07:32:43 PM
Don't think he could contribute much now apart from frees and Brewster (left) and O'Reilly (right) have those bases covered.
Last year we got to the last twelve, lost very narrowly to Meath this year to reach that stage again, nothing less than what we done with him in the side.
He is around 30 now anyway, is he playing with a club in Dublin again now?

Definitely played for Brigids last weekend in the Dublin SFC.

Cavan SFC: Have a feeling Gowna might put it up to the gaels this weekend? If they don't I can see the Gaels being stopped. ::) Yawn!!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on July 29, 2007, 11:54:16 PM
SFC:

heard cucus and kingscourt drew, gaels came from 7 behind at ht to draw with gowna 1-8 apiece, crosserlough snatched a 0-7 apiece draw in a dreadful game with castlerahan while mullahoran beat denn out the gate and up the road by about 15 points I think.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: CC1 on July 30, 2007, 12:11:29 AM
Was at the Kingscourt v Cuchullains game myself... Brilliant game to watch, and definately a game of two halves which funnily enough were dominated by the team kicking against the wind. Kingscourt lost two key players early on and it probably had a bearing on the result at the end. Terry Farrelly dominated the midfield in the second half and was probably the main reason for Cucus comeback from 6 points down at half time. Some terrible defending from both sides however, men allowed to stroll through the defence unchallenged and unmarked. Reminded me of watching Cavan! Very entertaining match, Philip Smith and Sean og Gargan being the two main main men for Kingscourt and Terry Farrelly for Cuchullains.

We won on Saturday ourselves, scraping through with a one point win over Killeshandra. Probably should have had alot more scores on the board with the amount of possession we had in Killeshandra's third of the pitch, but being without Paddy Mac, Ollie and Shane Mac in the full forward line I suppose it would have been expected. Killeshandra are a good footballing team and they play the ball well. Their movement off the ball is very good but they seem to be missing something to make them click in my opinion... Some of the hits going in in the last ten minutes of the game were unreal. Some sore lads walking about after the game!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: The Bottom Brick on July 30, 2007, 10:10:01 AM
I'd say the Gaels will beat Gowna in the replay and go on to walk it, although Mullahoran seem to be coming right at the right time...
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: shotstopper1 on July 30, 2007, 10:58:44 AM
HOTEL KILMORE SENIOR CHAMPIONSHIP QUALIFIERS



Qualifiers Quarter Finals

Losers of Castlerahan/Crosserlough a bye                  TEAM A

Losers of Kingscourt/Cuchullains V Denn                  TEAM B

Losers of Cavan Gaels/Gowna V Lacken                    TEAM C

Knockbride V Drumalee                                             TEAM D



Qualifiers Semi Finals



Team B V Team A

Team C V Team D



HOTEL KILMORE SENIOR CHAMPIONSHIP QUARTER FINALS



Belturbet V Killygarry

Winners of Cavan Gaels/Gowna V Ramor

Mullahoran V Winners of Kingscourt/Cuchullains

Winners of Castlerahan/Crosserlough V Winner of the Qualifier



HOTEL KILMORE INTERMEDIATE CHAMPIONSHIP QUALIFIERS



Qualifiers Quarter Finals

Bailieboro a bye                                                         TEAM A

Losers of Drung/Drumlane V Swanlinbar                   TEAM B

Losers of Laragh/Killinkere V Redhills                      TEAM C

Ballymachugh V Kill                                                   TEAM D



Qualifiers Semi Finals



Team A V Team C

Team B V Team D



HOTEL KILMORE INTERMEDIATE CHAMPIONSHIP QUARTER FINALS



Winners of Drung/Drumlane V Winners of Laragh/Killinkere

Drumgoon V Lavey

Ballinagh V Cootehill

Ballyhaise V Qualifier           





HOTEL KILMORE JUNIOR CHAMPIONSHIP QUALIFIERS



Maghera V Corlough                                                      TEAM A

Kildallon V Mountnugent                                               TEAM B

Templeport V Killeshandra                                            TEAM C



Team A V Team B                                                         Quarter Final Place

Losers of Team A/Team B V Team C                            Quarter Final Place



HOTEL KILMORE JUNIOR CHAMPIONSHIP QUARTER FINALS



Shannon Gaels V Winner of Team A/Team B

Arva V Shercock

Cornafean V Butlersbridge

Munterconnacht V Losers of Team A/Team B V Team C

                                                                                                         
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on July 30, 2007, 11:18:51 AM
Catlerahan C'Lough was one of the worst games I've ever seen. Absolutely dreadful stuff. Typical of club football in Cavan, tactically obsessed nonsense with the basics of the game like kicking and scoring sadly lacking.

Lough equalised deep in injury time but were full value for the draw. They hadn't as much of the ball for alot of the match but took their scoring opportunities well whereas Castlerahan squandered alot, Mackey in the corner shooting about five identical wides from 25 yards when in space and nobody near him for a few of those.

Castlerahan throw the ball about alot, some daft possession-type tactic, teams just push up on them and put them in a load of trouble close to their own goals. This approach demands pinpoint accuracy with handpasses and good kick deliveries out from defence into space, but no Castlerhan men with exception of Flanagan seemed able to do this, or often they had no man waiting outside anyway as Lough had it all bottled up, even with one man sent off.

Crosserlough are much more direct and shift the ball up the field alot quicker. Philip Smith caught a great ball and drilled it over the bar in the second half, Johnny Crowe kicked two huge place balls from the hand. Brian Crowe was the ref, did a decent job, Lough's Mark Rehill got the line - straight red - for an elbow but I didn't see it, but I'd say was a better ref for Castlerahan as the lighter team. A change of ref will favour Crosserlough for the replay who have the better approach to win the replay.

Mullahoran as usual seem to be saving their big ammunition for the championship while Gowna had the Gaels beat at half time but seemingly collapsed after the break and drew it. Anyone at it to offer a report?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on July 30, 2007, 02:30:01 PM
We scraped by Bailieborough on Friday evening 1-8 to 1-6. Some decent football played in the first half but the second half was an awful scrappy affair.

Gaynor and David Rooney (Bailieborough), were sent off within 5 minutes of each other. I didn't see either incident thanks to my crap position at the match but as always there was uproar from the crowd in both cases.

Podge, Terry Smith and Niall McDermott were probably our best players. Niall is an excellent prospect considering he is underage for minor again next year. Bailieborough had big games from Sean Cooney, Adrian Lambe and Neil Donnellan.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on July 30, 2007, 02:34:32 PM
Adrian Lambe? Last seen nicking a last-minute place at no.14 on the Cavan team that lost to Down in the Ulster semi in 1996, only to bomb spectacularly and never be seen again. He must be a big age for football now surely? Evidently still a handful though.

Is Podge going to throw his lot in with Cavan seniors next year do you think?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Hollow Man on July 30, 2007, 02:59:55 PM
Speaking of Lambe, how many other veterans of the Cavan panel of '97 are still playing club football?


Jason
Larry
Peter
Forde
McCabe
Terry Farrelly
Lambe
Mickey Graham

Actually there are rakes of them
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on July 30, 2007, 03:25:39 PM
Quote from: cavanmaniac on July 30, 2007, 02:34:32 PM
Adrian Lambe? Last seen nicking a last-minute place at no.14 on the Cavan team that lost to Down in the Ulster semi in 1996, only to bomb spectacularly and never be seen again. He must be a big age for football now surely? Evidently still a handful though.

Lambe's a right age alright but he hasn't lost the strength and still knows how to throw himself about.

Quote from: cavanmaniac on July 30, 2007, 02:34:32 PM
Is Podge going to throw his lot in with Cavan seniors next year do you think?

Haven't been speaking to him maniac but I'm sure he will. I think he took the year out because he always knew he would be heading stateside come summer.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on July 30, 2007, 03:34:49 PM
Very responsible of him. Tell him have a word with the Chicago deserters when they come home!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: SuperHans on July 30, 2007, 04:49:10 PM
Lads had a great weekend down in Cavan
Stayed in  B &B near Butlersbridge. Drank in Cruiscin lan, good wee bar then later after the game in McMahons then the Imperial. Good auld steam. I wouldnt mind another qualifer down there in future. Breffni was in good nick too.Id rather have it than Clones
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on July 30, 2007, 04:55:24 PM
we were awful against Swad,They ran straight through us in the first 10 minutes
went 5 down albeit playing into a stiff breeze,managed to get on top in the 2nd half but couldnt put them away.
switch with Barry Kelly and Brendan Lyons done the trick.Fergal Slowey outstanding as usual.Eamon Costello and Collie Reily also very good.
Swad showed they are better than their bottom place in Division Two.Would fancy them to win at least a game in qualifiers.
Good to see Michael Rooney back after injury,we could do with Baz Lynch and Sean McCormack aswell.
Mark Cunningham for swad is some prospect.
Far more football in him than either brother im afraid but typically the others are six footers and he doesnt look like reaching that mark anytime soon.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on July 30, 2007, 05:11:04 PM
You mention Fergal Slowey alot in your reports BHMan. Either he's some footballer or you're Fergal Slowey yourself ;D

Seriously, was he ever tried for the county, I think you may have mentioned him before as county material...
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on July 30, 2007, 05:17:14 PM
Quote from: cavanmaniac on July 30, 2007, 05:11:04 PM
You mention Fergal Slowey alot in your reports BHMan. Either he's some footballer or you're Fergal Slowey yourself ;D

Seriously, was he ever tried for the county, I think you may have mentioned him before as county material...

no im not Fergal slowey CM  :D
He is some footballer,only thing against him is his size at around 5'8.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: CC1 on July 30, 2007, 05:21:58 PM
Did you make it down to the Shercock v Killeshandra game BHM? Just saw a post on hoganstand that is winding me up like a feckin jack-in-the-box and was just wondering what your thoughts were on the game...
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on July 30, 2007, 05:25:05 PM
Quote from: CC1 on July 30, 2007, 05:21:58 PM
Did you make it down to the Shercock v Killeshandra game BHM? Just saw a post on hoganstand that is winding me up like a feckin jack-in-the-box and was just wondering what your thoughts were on the game...

didnt make it down im afraid CC1

but i was told by a fair few of the lads who were there watching on the hill that Shercock were well deserved their victory.

Ignore what the Hoganstand cretins say.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: CC1 on July 30, 2007, 05:30:20 PM
Sound man. At least I can stop punching the monitor now... ;)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on July 31, 2007, 09:00:52 PM
Quote from: cavanmaniac on July 30, 2007, 02:34:32 PM
Adrian Lambe? Last seen nicking a last-minute place at no.14 on the Cavan team that lost to Down in the Ulster semi in 1996, only to bomb spectacularly and never be seen again. He must be a big age for football now surely? Evidently still a handful though.

Is Podge going to throw his lot in with Cavan seniors next year do you think?


The mists of time can play tricks with the memory Maniac. Lambo was one of five Shamrocks men to play in the 95 Final Against Tyrone (Pod, Gerry Sheridan, John Donnellan and Aidan Connolly were the others). Adrian was also a panel member in the 97 campaign all the way through to Croker but didn't see action. Saw a fair bit of action in the NFL that year (Division 1 vintage as I recall). Once marty disappeared I think Adrian went off the scene. Good ball player and not a bit afraid to stand up for himself either, a comment that could also apply to all the above mentioned clubmates. We could do with a lad like him winning ball in the FF line now.

While I'm on the point of useless reminiscing I think Donnellan missed the 97 campaign through injury-thinking of Croke park and the Ramor mans travails in the full back line that day we could have used him.

Anyway, that was then
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on July 31, 2007, 11:50:40 PM
Yeah didn't see sight nor light of him in '97 at all, I guess McHugh felt burned after risking him in '96 for no return. One of the last genuinely big number 14s we had, Finbar Crowe came soon after/around the same time and nothing really since except Tierney.

That Neil Donnellan playing fullback for B'boro must be some relation of the aforementioned John? A decent little corner back in his day if I recall right...would've done better than Kermath for sure although in fairness, he wasn't shown up all year until Croker I thought.

Pointless talking about it now anyway.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: PoloGrounds on August 01, 2007, 10:45:44 AM
Adrian Lambe? Last seen nicking a last-minute place at no.14 on the Cavan team that lost to Down in the Ulster semi in 1996, only to bomb spectacularly and never be seen again. He must be a big age for football now surely? Evidently still a handful though.

Is Podge going to throw his lot in with Cavan seniors next year do you think?

Lads,

Cavan V Derry Championship 2000

2-13 to 1-05 defeat in Casement

DERRY - M Conlon; K McKeever, SM Lockhart, D O'Neill; G Coleman, H Downey, P McFlynn; A Tohill, D Heaney; B Murphy, D Dougan, R Rocks; P Bradley, E Muldoon, J McBride. Subs: G McGonigle for B Murray; J Cassidy for P Bradley; S Downey for J McBride; C Gilligan for J Cassidy.

CAVAN - B McCormack; G Sheridan, T Farrelly, C McCarey; R Rogers, A Forde, C Collins; D McCabe, P Smith; L Reilly, A Lambe, P Reilly; J Reilly, F Cahill, M Graham. Subs: P Shiels for T Farrelly; B Lynch for C McCarey; B Morris for P Shiels; P Galligan for A Lambe; P Murphy for J Reilly.



Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on August 01, 2007, 12:00:43 PM
 :o

And me there and all, although I thought Derry gave us the two skinnings in Breffni and not Casement, thought we drew with them up there.

That had completely gone from my memory.

Conor McCarey, Raphael Rogers ::)

And Terry Farrelly at fullback, worst experiment ever in Cavan football and probably ended his intercounty career. he had really looked the part at midfield with the U21s in '96 but never quite imapcted much at senior. Still playing too I believe.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on August 01, 2007, 12:28:34 PM
how Barry Lynch wasnt on that team that year after some great league performances i dont know.

Jaysus that was one weak team alright.

i remember Anthony Tohill kicked a point from a free from almost 60 metres that day and gave a masterclass of a display.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on August 01, 2007, 12:42:38 PM
Quote from: cavanmaniac on August 01, 2007, 12:00:43 PM
And me there and all, although I thought Derry gave us the two skinnings in Breffni and not Casement, thought we drew with them up there.

I think it was 99' that we drew with them in Casement, we had the match won but for a late point by one Joe Brolly they then proceeded to thump us in Breffni in the replay. Derry repeated this slaughter back in Casement in 2000 as shown in AngloCelt39 post. Could be wrong.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: shotstopper1 on August 01, 2007, 01:10:47 PM
Quote from: cavanmaniac on August 01, 2007, 12:00:43 PM
:o

And me there and all, although I thought Derry gave us the two skinnings in Breffni and not Casement, thought we drew with them up there.


I think your right ther manic Derry gave us a hammering two years in a row then 99 & 2000, I also think they beat us in the qualifiers in 2001 in Clones when Tohill ran through our defence with boys hanging out of him to sore a goal.

QuoteI think it was 99' that we drew with them in Casement, we had the match won but for a late point by one Joe Brolly they then proceeded to thump us in Breffni in the replay.

Actually Derry were up by 7 or 8 points with only about 5/10 mins left, McCabe was then moved to FF where he proceeded to destroy the Derry backline . I think he scored one goal and won a penalty which Peter Reilly?? despatched , at that stage most of the Cavan people were well on their way home.Although your right that Brolly drew it in the end.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Hollow Man on August 01, 2007, 01:34:02 PM
My memory of that match in Casement is a little different.

Cavan were outplayed and we threw McCabe and and he won a penalty when we were six or seven down, sort of sympathy vote by the ref. Next thing a high ball comes in and McCabe fists it to the net, and the ref realised he had made a f**k up and played about 7 minutes of injury time to allow Brolly to hook over the equaliser off that trusty left.

Is this right or am I talking shite?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: shotstopper1 on August 01, 2007, 01:45:15 PM
Come to think of it it was Carolan who scored the penalty after Larry was fouled, was a definite sympathy vote by the ref.Brolly only came on as a sub in injury time (suffering from scarlet fever at the time) Derry won a 45 which Brolly played a one two with someone else and scored the equalising point.Cavan at the time believed that the ref had indicated that Brolly's 45 was to be the last kick of the game however it wasn't to be.All history now.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: CavanCola on August 01, 2007, 01:59:21 PM
Found this archive on that match..... clears up a few things on the 1999 match.

Cavan out to prove draw was no fluke
by Mark Gallagher
BY the time Dermot McCabe raced into the square to meet Raymond Cunningham's cross last Sunday, that famous Derry spirit was destroyed.
As his fist rose to direct the ball into the net, it appeared an incredible, if controversial, championship comeback had been completed. The muscular Cavan captain using his shock of red curls as target in full-forward appeared to have ended the reign of Derry in Ulster.
"In the heat of battle, you have no real indication of time," the bulky targetman said. "We knew when Ronan had scored the penalty, it was coming very close to full time. I knew it was close, but couldn't tell how close. And there was still only a point in it at that stage, so were really thinking of victory. We only realised time was up when we were told Tohill's free was the last kick of the game, which of course it wasn't. But there you go, a draw was probably a fair result in the end."
Cavan turned the match on its head in the last five minutes. Using the bizarre penalty decision to their advantage, they found the net twice in 90 seconds, something they never looked like doing throughout the match.
"I'd disagree with that. There was a spell in the first ten minutes of the second half where scores came from all over the park. We got five or six points in a row and we were really on fire. We were finding it difficult to threaten their goal, but once the penalty went it, it panicked them a little bit and luckily, I was able to take advantage of that."
McCabe shares his manager's belief that his team were extremely fortunate last Sunday. With Joe Brolly telling anyone who will listen that Cavan's continued presence in the championship is an Ulster council conspiracy, McCabe believes there is a deeper reason.
"We were lucky, very lucky. We got out of jail three times. But, we never gave up either, even when Derry were pulling further and further away. We always came back and we deserved a draw and a chance to fight another day. And, we almost won it in the end."
Not only has the venue changed for the replay, So too has the official. After the farcical final five minutes on Sunday, Mick McGrath has been set aside, Paddy Russell coming into his place. Sigh of relief heard from Derry, but what do Cavan make of the decision?
"I haven't heard anything about it," McCabe answers. "But, it really shouldn't affect the game one way or other. I suppose the Derry players have been complaining about some of the decisions, particularly the penalty decision. In that sort of atmosphere, there would be an awful lot of pressure for the same referee again. Personally, I don't care who referees the game on Sunday, it will have little effect on us."
In Derry, they are looking ahead to Sunday with just a little dread. Brolly is still unfit, Ronan Rocks is suspended and a hurling game is entrapping some squad members on Saturday. Cavan, meanwhile, suffer no injury doubts and are primed for the replay, having almost snatched victory in Belfast.
"We would like to think that maybe their spirits are broken a small bit from Sunday, but it is another game, back to square one and when you go into any championship game, you still have to have that will to win," McCabe said.
"And I'm sure Derry will have it as much as us on Sunday. What happened in Casement is history now. We can't allow the fact Derry might have some problems because of the sending-off and the hurling game to come into our minds for this game. We have to just concentrate on our preparations."
For the captain himself, it has been another week to dispel any lingering fitness doubts. McCabe sustained an injury ten weeks ago in a club game. Although the injury did not rule him out of the team, he was shuffled between midfield and full-forward until his sharpness returned.
"There are still slight problems from the injury and I had been playing midfield a bit because of that. It is wherever Val decides to play me. I was originally selected for midfield, but he decided to move me forward before the game last Sunday. I don't really care where I play, as long as I am playing."
This Sunday, McCabe's loping gait and curly red mop will lead Cavan around Breffni Park for the first time in the cauldron of championship football. An honour which he himself ensured with a precise punched goal in Casement Park. The chance of playing championship football in Breffni is a rare experience for this young Cavan side. McCabe hopes this will benefit the team on Sunday.
"Overall, I think this team has only played one championship game at Breffni Park, and it will a great experience for some of the younger lads. But in the championship, I don't know how much of an advantage a home venue is. Derry will be coming down determined to put last Sunday behind them, and playing at Breffni will fire them up as much as us."


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Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on August 01, 2007, 02:28:03 PM
It truly was high farce at Casement Park. The peno was definitely soft as shite and duly despatched, but barely raised a cheer as time was up. Then with the next attack McCabe fisted to the net, cue bedlam.

The ref then spent the next 7/8 minutes desperately hoping Derry would equalise and Brolly duly obliged clipping over from the endline at the entrance gate end of the ground. I recall us having a free on the '45m line very deep in injury time (getting near the time when even the brass-necked ref surely felt he was pushing it by adding on any more time) and instead of playing it short and tossing the ball about to run down the clock, Peter Reilly thumped it into the square and Derry manufactured their equaliser from the resulting attack I think. (I've never forgiven Peter Reilly for this or for the massive wide he skied to the right below in Thurles in the 1996 All-Ireland U21 final. Ran the length of the field, saw the headlines, and kicked it away. Sure he made up for it later on I suppose.)

Those hammerings by Derry were the beginning of the end of any hopes we had of building on 1997. We could put 1998 down to dissatisfaction with Liam Austin and what have you but 1999 and 2000 killed us altogether.

I recall Enda Muldoon absolutely gutting and filleting us at Breffni in 2000, totally murdered Cathal Collins at fullback. That was the same day our inspired minor management brought on a lame John Tierney near the end when we were leading by three or four, demanded that every kickout go to him and didn't stop demanding until Tierney had failed to win a single one of them and Derry gubbed us with a late goal. And bad as he might be now, Nick Walsh was catching at least 2/3 of the ball coming near him that day but of course the management knew better.

Ah well. 'Tis history now. No more reminiscing, it's making me pine for the bad old days ha ha...
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: PoloGrounds on August 01, 2007, 02:55:59 PM
Came across this article when checking up Lambes inter-county stats...

Now we get to read this journalist every week in the Cavan Life!

Saturday May 15 1999
Cavan's former goalkeeper PAUL O'DOWD quit the county team because he thought it wasn't worth the hassle. Here he reflects on his decision, and outlines why he feels it has improved the quality of his life.

Cavan's former goalkeeper PAUL O'DOWD quit the county team because he thought it wasn't worth the hassle. Here he reflects on his decision, and outlines why he feels it has improved the quality of his life.
MONDAY 5.30: I log off my PC and leave work. Just months ago I would have hurried into town to catch a lift to Cavan for training. Not today though, as an ex-inter-county footballer I'll instead take the leisurely walk back to my house in Ranelagh.

At 6 o'clock, as I'm putting on the spuds for dinner, it occurs to me that I could now be in a minibus caught in a tailback outside Dunshaughlin.

I was seven years on the Cavan panel. From when I started at UCD I travelled to Cavan twice during the week for training, returning at the weekend either for a game or training.

My brother Thomas has started college at St Pat's, Drumcondra and earns spending money by working part-time at weekends. At college I was always broke and lost out socially because I couldn't get a part-time job due to time spent playing for college, club and county.

It would have been nice to get a fiver an hour for the 40 hours a week I spent travelling, training and playing football.

AS the spuds boil I read the paper. I get a good laugh from articles where some bloke protests his undying love for the county jersey and scorns professionalism. I wonder how is his pub/shop doing or how many sales he might make on the road the next day.

Some people gain benefit in kind from the GAA, most don't. When any team has a measure of success star players can trawl the medal-presenting circuit and make a handy few pounds, the other 27 panel members have to be content with the odd pat on the back and a pint in return for a year full of bullshit.

Eat spuds. Watch Simpsons, think smugly that if on that bus between Cavan and Virginia now I'd be complaining, saying ``I've had enough of this crap''.

When I joined the Cavan panel in 1992 I became conditioned to going from Dublin to Cavan for training, never being able to plan a weekend away, always feeling like a convict if I had a pint on the Saturday night before a game (every Saturday is the night before a game).

At 8 o'clock I go for a jog around UCD. They start training at Breffni Park now. At the start of the '98/99 league campaign I was injured and took a break from training. It was great to be relaxing at home instead of travelling to Cavan to run around a windswept Killygarry on dirty winter nights.

I didn't go to any of the Cavan matches because as a rule I don't watch games. In November I went to Detroit as part of the training programme for my job with EDS. Out there, far away from football, I wondered would I bother playing on my return.

Why train as a professional, play in front of 30,000 paying people at Clones and get nothing for it? League of Ireland players are paid yet have much smaller crowds.

Run finished. Shower and make cuppa. Phone rings. It's Charlie Clarke a clubmate of mine from Bailieboro.

Charlie was on the Cavan Ulster championship winning panel in 1997 but dropped off soon after because, as a farmer, he cannot afford to give the time to football.

I tell Charlie about a conversation I had with Aidan Connolly, one of the best footballers in Cavan, if not Ulster. Aidan politely declined the offer to train with Cavan for 12 nights over Easter. Aidan works in Dublin travelling from Bailieboro daily. We both agree he was right.

Talk turns to the club championship. We wonder will Adrian Lambe be back for the first round. Adrian played with Aidan, Charlie and I from under 12 right the way up to county senior level.

Like Charlie, Adrian left after '97 because of lost overtime at work. After quitting Cavan he could work overtime along with taking up other hobbies. He then decided to go to Australia for a while. Why not, we say. Couldn't do that if he was with Cavan.

Charlie asks will I ever go back. I laugh. What would I have to gain out of it. It has no bearing on my job. If I'm over in Luton requesting sign-off on a computer programme, the customer is unlikely to sign just because I'm a county footballer. I say I'd play if paid.

MANAGERS are paid five-figure sums, players shouldn't have to play for nothing and then have to beg for paltry expenses. Charlie comments that a lot of players are retiring lately because of work and personal commitments, Kieran McDonald and Martin McNamara come to mind.

Call ends. Call around to my friend's house in Rathmines. He has just watched Pat Comer's excellent documentary about Galway's passage to success in the All-Ireland final.

He's amazed at the training put in and the sacrifices made, more amazed when I tell him that 31 other teams probably put in the same training and got no All-Ireland for it. I'm sure that any county footballer who watched Pat's video saw nothing out of the ordinary.

My friend reckons he'd want to lose a good bit of weight and become a lot fitter to do that training. I tell him to be a 'keeper.

At 11 o'clock I'm driving back through Ranelagh. I could be on the bus doing well to be at Kells at this stage of the return journey. Watch telly.

By 12 o'clock I'm in bed. I had a good, relaxing evening. The bus won't hit Dublin until after midnight and by the time the lads get taxis and lifts it will be 12.30 before they make bed. I could handle that while at college because I could skip a lecture and lie on, not any more work comes first.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on August 01, 2007, 10:28:43 PM
Old yet entertaining piece of writing by the Podman all right. The idea of Butt Connolly "politely declining" ANYTHING, is an image I'm trying hard to deal with.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on August 03, 2007, 10:12:11 AM
Just read this on the Cavan Hoganstand Message Board.


Michael Lyng
QuoteRumour has it that micky lyng is returning to crosserlough next year, apparently he has been seen at quite a few of the loughs matches this year.
in the know , Ireland , 02/08/2007 at 14:54

What jibberish are you talking - do you realise that he has a brother on the Crosserlough panel and this may be the reason he goes to their matches.
Another thing - can you please answer why a lad of his natural ability would leave Cavan Gaels (where his place is not in danger) to join a team that as far as I am concerned are playing to go as far as they can because they have no chance of winning the championship anytime soon - especially judging the match I watched at the weekend - not even 1st cousins of footballers (sounds familiar but sadly very true).

Tired of nonsense , Cavan , 02/08/2007 at 18:32
_____________________________________________________________________


Pretty much sums up the quality of discussion on that site.  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on August 03, 2007, 10:33:39 AM
Don't think we should get too precious about the refined, urbane, informed etc. level of discourse on this site relative to Hogan Stand. Excluding this thread of course, this board has it's share of fools also, look at the moderator notices. Cavan page on Hogan Stand does seem to have a few text speak illiterates thrown in along with a few really good, informed and entertaining contributors-Ishmael, Righteous Melody etc.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on August 03, 2007, 11:00:20 AM
Agreed AngloCelt, there are a few good eggs on the Hogan Stand whose contributions would be more than welcome on this board, but the sad thing is we have no way of telling them without invoking an influx of idiots as well.  We can only hope the survival of the fittest bears out and they eventually find there way over here.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on August 03, 2007, 11:29:53 AM
Ishmael has to be a serious transfer target during the close season. Classy act in the Trevor Giles mould-would be a first season automatic choice for the GAA Board Ulster Railway Cup selection, if you get my fairly drift, which I don't fully get myself to be honest, must be a long weekend on the way
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on August 05, 2007, 09:32:31 PM
was in at Breffini tonight, Disgraceful scenes at the end of the Cavan Gaels match, a free for all with players,managers and supporters,must have been over 100 people involved.

Crosserlough 0-10 Castlerahan 0-08

desperate game, picked up a bit in the 2nd half,

Jonathon Crowe outstanding for C'Lough kicked over a few marvelous scores from midfield

Adrian Reily, and Enda Gaffney also kicked some great points,

Declan Gaffney was very good for them in midfield as well.

Jarlath O Reily kept Mackey very quiet in the backs.

Only 5 guys for me who looked anything approaching county standard

From Castlerahan

Mackey was atrocious,no feet on him what so ever.

Sean Brady was destroyed at Midfield by Gaffney but kicked 3 points from Play when moved to full forward.

Flanagan was ok,not up to his usual standards.

No-one else from Castlerahan was impressive,desperately disappointed in them to be honest.


Cavan Gaels 2-14 Gowna 3-08
Great game of football.
Gaels raced into a 1-10 to 0-3 lead just before half time with,Sean Reily running riot at midfield outplaying Paddy Brady,
and Niall Collins and Sean Higgins and Mickie Graham destroying the Gowna Full Back line. And Cathal Collins keeping Pierson in check
Then McCabe fisted in a goal just before half time.

Gowna came out fighting in the second scoring 1-3 without reply.
McCabe must have finished up with about 1-06 as a personal tally.
The Gaels were a disgrace discipline wise
Karl Crotty was sent off for a second booking for the Gaels.
He was then joined by teammate Sean Reily a straight red for a disgraceful elbow on Mark McKeever.
Sean Higgins was then given a straight red for a horrible trip near the end.
Gowna brought on Ciaran Brady and Morris to try and change it but couldnt narrow the gap.

At the end from what i seen a Gaels sub nudged one of the Gowna management under the stand which started the free for all,This wasnt handbags stuff guys,there were a fair few punches thrown.
Some players are looking at long bans.

For Gaels,
Pauric Smith at cornerback was good
Gavin Duffy attacked well,
Sean Reily very good at centre field
Paul O Donnell also very good at wing forward,

and the trio inside

Niall Collins, Sean Higgins and Mickie Graham were on fire.
if Keoghan or Grimley were at the game,they should look at some of those 3.

For Gowna

McCabe was outstanding,almost single handidly pulled it off on his own.
McKeever came into it well in 2nd half as did Pierson
Dreadfully disappointed in Paddy Brady
also disappointed in Niall Madden and Ciaran Fitzpatrick two ex county minors and under 21's.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on August 07, 2007, 01:11:16 PM
C4ever

just an update of this thread

a Paddy Baxter from Ballymachugh got a 48 week suspension,

i wonder had that anything to do with the incidents in the Drung game  ;) .
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Maximus Marillius on August 07, 2007, 01:20:41 PM
Things not going according to plan Haise....


Last season's junior champions, Swanlinbar turned in one of their best performances of the season in their Cavan IFC opening round game against a fancied Ballyhaise side at O'Connell Park, Milltown on Sunday last, 29th of July, losing a very close and competitive game on a scoreline of 1-13 to 0-14.

Ballyhaise despite being without key players Ray Cullivan (injured) and Ali Pickett were expected to win this game easily against a side that is struggling in Division 2 of the SFL.

The Swad side started the game in a blaze of glory with three early points to put down a marker for their Division One opponents. As the half progressed they grew in confidence and led at the break by five points 0-11 to 1-3 – the Ballyhaise goal scored by Eamonn Costello.

Gerry O'Rourke's Ballyhaise side had a real battle ahead of them at the start of the second-half but to their credit they 'rose to the challenge'. They slowly but surely worked their way back into the game, and thanks to some shooting by their attack ran out winners in the end.

Ballyhaise are now through to the quarter-finals of the IFC and a meeting with the winners of the losers qualifier group. Swanlinbar hopes of getting back into the championship depend on how they fare in the losers' group where they play the losers of the Drumlane v Drung first round replay.

Ballyhaise - B. Maguire; Anthony Lyons, Barry Kelly, Martin Tackney; Fergal Slowey, Brendan Lyons, Kevin Rooney; Barry McCrudden, Conor Lyons; Stephen Smith, Eamonn Costello, John Donoghue; Colm Reilly, James Brady, Ciaran McGowan.

Swanlinbar – Anthony McGoldrick; Seamus Corrigan, Michael Curran; Liam Prior, Paul Prior, Thomas Prior; Damien Leydon, Gearoid McKiernan; Kevin Brennan, Rory McBarron, Paul Brennan, Adrian McGoldrick, Mark Cunningham, Kevin Prior, Padraig McManus.
Subs used – Neil McGovern for P. Prior and Michael Cunningham for P. McManus.

Referee – Martin Brady, Lacken Celtic.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on August 07, 2007, 01:24:42 PM
Quote from: Maximus Marillius on August 07, 2007, 01:20:41 PM
Things not going according to plan Haise....


Last season's junior champions, Swanlinbar turned in one of their best performances of the season in their Cavan IFC opening round game against a fancied Ballyhaise side at O'Connell Park, Milltown on Sunday last, 29th of July, losing a very close and competitive game on a scoreline of 1-13 to 0-14.

Ballyhaise despite being without key players Ray Cullivan (injured) and Ali Pickett were expected to win this game easily against a side that is struggling in Division 2 of the SFL.

The Swad side started the game in a blaze of glory with three early points to put down a marker for their Division One opponents. As the half progressed they grew in confidence and led at the break by five points 0-11 to 1-3 – the Ballyhaise goal scored by Eamonn Costello.

Gerry O'Rourke's Ballyhaise side had a real battle ahead of them at the start of the second-half but to their credit they 'rose to the challenge'. They slowly but surely worked their way back into the game, and thanks to some shooting by their attack ran out winners in the end.

Ballyhaise are now through to the quarter-finals of the IFC and a meeting with the winners of the losers qualifier group. Swanlinbar hopes of getting back into the championship depend on how they fare in the losers' group where they play the losers of the Drumlane v Drung first round replay.

Ballyhaise - B. Maguire; Anthony Lyons, Barry Kelly, Martin Tackney; Fergal Slowey, Brendan Lyons, Kevin Rooney; Barry McCrudden, Conor Lyons; Stephen Smith, Eamonn Costello, John Donoghue; Colm Reilly, James Brady, Ciaran McGowan.

Swanlinbar – Anthony McGoldrick; Seamus Corrigan, Michael Curran; Liam Prior, Paul Prior, Thomas Prior; Damien Leydon, Gearoid McKiernan; Kevin Brennan, Rory McBarron, Paul Brennan, Adrian McGoldrick, Mark Cunningham, Kevin Prior, Padraig McManus.
Subs used – Neil McGovern for P. Prior and Michael Cunningham for P. McManus.

Referee – Martin Brady, Lacken Celtic.


its called winning in the championship Maxi,something ye havent done this year yet i may add  ;D  :-*
But no we were awful against Swad il give ye that.
we have til the weekend of the 24th of August to put that right though.  :)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Maximus Marillius on August 07, 2007, 01:26:12 PM
I was watching the results and i'm glad I took some of your comrades in the cavan pages advice and not bet on castlerahan....they were beaten.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on August 07, 2007, 01:31:45 PM
Castlerahan were awful...i did tell you not to bet on them aswell unless you wanted to lose money dont forget  ;)

Cavan Gaels if they dont get half their team suspended  :D will walk this championship im afraid.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: shotstopper1 on August 07, 2007, 02:49:46 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on August 07, 2007, 01:11:16 PM
C4ever

just an update of this thread

a Paddy Baxter from Ballymachugh got a 48 week suspension,

i wonder had that anything to do with the incidents in the Drung game  ;) .

Wonder will any of the Gowna or Gaels lads get anything near that,seemingly it was all caught by the video, but of course the recording of such incidents can often, convienently, go missing,too many county players involved etc.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on August 07, 2007, 02:52:55 PM
Quote from: shotstopper1 on August 07, 2007, 02:49:46 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on August 07, 2007, 01:11:16 PM
C4ever

just an update of this thread

a Paddy Baxter from Ballymachugh got a 48 week suspension,

i wonder had that anything to do with the incidents in the Drung game  ;) .

Wonder will any of the Gowna or Gaels lads get anything near that,seemingly it was all caught by the video, but of course the recording of such incidents can often, convienently, go missing,too many county players involved etc.

You're probably right,The County Board will probably be too afraid to punish them incase half of them refused to play for the county next year over the treatment of their clubs etc etc.  ::)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on August 07, 2007, 03:00:38 PM
Quote from: shotstopper1 on August 07, 2007, 02:49:46 PM

C4ever

just an update of this thread

a Paddy Baxter from Ballymachugh got a 48 week suspension,

i wonder had that anything to do with the incidents in the Drung game  ;) .


No just talking to a lad from ballymachugh and he got sent off for 2 bookings and gave the ref alot of shit and then again after the game , and i believe the auld fella gave the ref more shit in the car park after the game.  The ref was ollie the finn .

On the gaels gowna thing heard there are suspensions ranging from 1 year to 3 months, don't think any county players got suspended.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on August 07, 2007, 03:06:26 PM
One of the Gowna supporters gave one of the Gaels players(think it was Gearoid Collins ,but i was down the Cavan side of the stand) an awful hiding down near the corner,must have connected with 3 or 4 punches and a few kicks.

also wasnt impressed with the Gaels Gamesmanship of Lyng going down with cramp 5 minutes after he came on as a sub when Sean Higgins seen red.
McCabe and Ciaran Brady went mad  :D

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on August 07, 2007, 03:09:14 PM
I heard there was no camera footage but I could be wrong. Wouldn't mind a copy of it.

I know that one Breffni Park official (who shall go unnamed) was given the job of taking the down the names/numbers of the players, management and supporters involved in the melee. After the whole thing calmed down and the teams had gone into the dressing room area the official approached a player (who shall also go nameless) to inform him that his name was certainly on the list, to which said player responded by grabbing the notepad of him, sticking it in his bag and taking off out the door!!

Don't think suspensions will be handed out til Friday night.

Felt sorry for Collins as I believe he was only holding a Gowna player back when the Da' came over and split him.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on August 07, 2007, 03:15:30 PM
Quote from: Homer on August 07, 2007, 03:09:14 PM

I know that one Breffni Park official (who shall go unnamed) was given the job of taking the down the names/numbers of the players, management and supporters involved in the melee. After the whole thing calmed down and the teams had gone into the dressing room area the official approached a player (who shall also go nameless) to inform him that his name was certainly on the list, to which said player responded by grabbing the notepad of him, sticking it in his bag and taking off out the door!!


:D  :D  :D  :D
just cant stop laughing at that.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on August 07, 2007, 03:15:58 PM
Seems like there was some craic in Breffni alright. If the gaels get landed with those suspensions it will certainly open up the championship a bit. Indeed, Gowna could yet figure as could Mullahoran. Anyone got the rest of the results yet? Aertel is still trying to get results from the week before. Hoganstand isn't updating and GAA results.ie isn't updating either. FFS you think you'd get championship results fairly sharpish.

Since I am now out in the wilderness I only heard that Killeshandra beat Templeport by 1 goal + what you lads have already put up here.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on August 07, 2007, 03:18:49 PM
Kingscourt beat Cuchullains 2-11 to 1-10 in the replay Myles.

Cuchullains now play Denn in one of the qualifiers
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: shotstopper1 on August 07, 2007, 04:14:39 PM
Outcome of weekend games, someone may have the full results (they were actually on aertel on d'tele pg 476)

Senior

Crosserlough bt Castlerahan
Gaels bt Gowna
Kingscourt bt Cuchullains

Senior Qualifier

Knockbride bt Drumalee


Intermediate

Drumlane bt Drung
Laragh bt Killinkere

Qualifier
Ballymachugh bt Kill


Junior Qualifiers

Killeshandra bt Templeport
Kildallan bt Mountnugent


Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: maverick on August 08, 2007, 12:34:06 AM
If you want the results from all the championship games this year go here and follow the instructions.The results are sent out every evening after the last game finishes. http://gaaresults.blogspot.com its free for this year. Signed up to it about 3 weeks ago.Even got the draws as they happened was happy enough with that.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on August 08, 2007, 01:12:13 PM
Heavy fines and suspensions
08 August 2007


The after-match brawl which followed the Cavan SFC first round replay between Cavan Gaels and Gowna on Sunday 5th August in Kingspan/Breffni Park, Cavan which resulted in three Cavan Gaels players being sent off and a sideline brawl at the conclusion of the game was dealt swiftly and efficiently by the Competitions Control Committee of Cavan Co. Board who met on Monday night last, 6th of August. Having viewed the video evidence of both the match and the scenes afterwards they issued the following suspensions and fines – The Gowna club was fined

1,000 euros and the following were suspended – Sean McGahern (Gowna) 48 weeks, Martin McKeever (Gowna) 48 weeks, Bernard Morris (Gowna) 24 weeks and Willie Stephens (Gowna) 4 weeks, plus the next game in the competition.

Cavan Gaels were fined 2,000 euros and warned as to their future conduct. Sean Reilly received 48 weeks, Sean Higgins 8 weeks and Eoghan Elliott 4 weeks and the next game in the championship, Karl Crotty 2 weeks.

The clubs have just three days in which to appeal the suspensions and fines to the Hearings Committee of the Co. Board.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Hollow Man on August 08, 2007, 02:03:12 PM
Gowna are absolutely brutal. Pierson's head is up his hole and McKeever isn't half the player he was. Paddy Brady isn't a quarter of the player he was either.

Seeing them bring on Bernard Morris and Ciaran Brady has lead me to one logical conclusion:

Take Dermot McCabe out of the Gowna team and they wouldn't even be a senior club, let alone compete well in the Cavan senior championship...

Discuss.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on August 08, 2007, 02:35:44 PM
Haven't seen gowna play this year but those players have gone backwards. 

What age is morris and brady now?  McCabe was the only player cavan had this year hope he is back next year.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on August 08, 2007, 04:02:59 PM
Quote from: Hollow Man on August 08, 2007, 02:03:12 PM
Gowna are absolutely brutal. Pierson's head is up his hole and McKeever isn't half the player he was. Paddy Brady isn't a quarter of the player he was either.

Seeing them bring on Bernard Morris and Ciaran Brady has lead me to one logical conclusion:

Take Dermot McCabe out of the Gowna team and they wouldn't even be a senior club, let alone compete well in the Cavan senior championship...

Discuss.

agree completely Hollow Man

McCabe was majestic for Gowna on Sunday and has been for Cavan all year.

Pierson and McKeever have disappointed greatly this year. You wouldnt even know either were playing on Sunday.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on August 08, 2007, 04:19:27 PM
The question has to be asked... How can two of the counties brightest hopes (i.e. Pierson and McKeever) be so off form. Two years ago I watch Pierson in Navan kick 5/6 points from play against Meath. He won MOM even though Cavan lost which is saying something. McKeever put in one of the best displays I ever seen from a Cavan player in the Ulster Semi Final against Armagh the year before that when we played the whole match with 14 men. Both have been mediocre in the County Campaign and it is very disturbing to hear that they are even looking mediocre at club level - where they should be standing out. What is the cause of this I wonder? My gut feeling tells me palyer attitudes are the problem. The big fish in a small Pond syndrome? Someone told me once that the problem with Cavan footballers is that once they make the Cavan panel they start thinking that they've made it, there is nothing left to achieve. What do ye think?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on August 08, 2007, 09:11:28 PM
Bernard Morris would be 41/42
Larry Brady is 40
Dessie Brady is 39
Ciaran Brady is 38

Still playing?  Fair play
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on August 08, 2007, 11:38:08 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on August 08, 2007, 04:19:27 PM
The question has to be asked... How can two of the counties brightest hopes (i.e. Pierson and McKeever) be so off form. Two years ago I watch Pierson in Navan kick 5/6 points from play against Meath. He won MOM even though Cavan lost which is saying something. McKeever put in one of the best displays I ever seen from a Cavan player in the Ulster Semi Final against Armagh the year before that when we played the whole match with 14 men. Both have been mediocre in the County Campaign and it is very disturbing to hear that they are even looking mediocre at club level - where they should be standing out. What is the cause of this I wonder? My gut feeling tells me palyer attitudes are the problem. The big fish in a small Pond syndrome? Someone told me once that the problem with Cavan footballers is that once they make the Cavan panel they start thinking that they've made it, there is nothing left to achieve. What do ye think?

I think you could have something there. There's just no pride in the blue shirt any more, no sense of prestige or honour among the players. I've said it before but it's worth re-stating - at the moment the county's fortunes are so bad that talented players are brought in and indulged and made to feel indispensible because we as fans and the manager and backroom team are too desperate for things to improve to ever drop them. This gives the player an inflated sense of worth and instead of him having a deep sense of being just a small part of something bigger, better and more enduring than himself, the tail wagging the dog mentality kicks in and he instead thinks he's bigger than the team and it's there to serve him rather than the other way around.

That sounds like dreadful pop psychology but there's something wrong somewhere. In alot of other counties the likes of Pierson would never have gone the way he is and countless others like him in this county.

We've all said it here lots of times, it'd be better to clear out the bad apples and start from scratch with a panel of players who understand and know what it means to play for Cavan and the responsibility that goes with it. If we have three seasons without a win but have 30 lads willing to walk through a wall for the jersey, like Meath, Monagahan, Sligo, Louth have, then we'd be all the better for it. And you'd quickly find that the bad apples would turn good again and if returned to the panel on the county's terms and not their own, might just realise their potential.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on August 09, 2007, 09:02:27 AM
Drop McCabe!!

McCabe is a winner through and through and is one of the few players on the panel that will give it all year in year out to try and advance Cavan's cause. The occasional outburst during games and the like stems from this constant urge to win and in my opinion the positive influence he has on a team as a leader by example, far out-weighs any negative impact.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on August 09, 2007, 09:07:00 AM
Quote from: CC1 on August 09, 2007, 08:38:00 AM
Don't think you could have hit the nail any sweeter there cavanmaniac. Problem is, I don't think we'll see that for a good while. We have been talking about the bad influence McCabe can be at times, but could you honestly see anyone dropping him from the squad at this moment in time? The quality just isn't there I'm afraid.

Don't think McCabe has been as bad as in previous years. OK, so he still wants to take every free within 100 miles of the goals but he did his talking on the field. Maybe his moaning in previous yrs stemed out of him having a lot of injury problems and never being able to get properly fit. I would be looking elsewhere at players who did not perform this year. I'm talking McKeever, Pierson, Johnstone, Gunner, Jason, Mulvey, Larry, James Reilly, Eamonn Reilly... Thats a long list (could even be longer) but those guys did not do it this year, and none of them walked through walls for us as Maniac put it. I said it before. We need county trials where every player has to "re-apply" for their place on the panel.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on August 09, 2007, 09:50:00 AM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on August 09, 2007, 09:07:00 AM
Quote from: CC1 on August 09, 2007, 08:38:00 AM
Don't think you could have hit the nail any sweeter there cavanmaniac. Problem is, I don't think we'll see that for a good while. We have been talking about the bad influence McCabe can be at times, but could you honestly see anyone dropping him from the squad at this moment in time? The quality just isn't there I'm afraid.

I said it before. We need county trials where every player has to "re-apply" for their place on the panel.

Thats does be said every year but probably won't happen, it prob is  the only way of moving forward though.   Divison 2 is though next year and avoiding relegation won't be easy but rebuilding definately has to start.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Hollow Man on August 09, 2007, 10:24:32 AM
Gunner didn't perform? What are you smoking?

Best player in the league when the going got tough against the likes of Meath, Sligo and Wexford, then he got shafted by being put out of position on Down's best player. When he was brought out to wing back that day his direct opponent James McGovern was taken off, yet Brady was dropped for the replay. Crazy stuff.

As for Johnston, he was a bit burnt out and suffered from injury during the league, but in the championship he was tearing Down apart, so they took hm off and dropped him. When he came on the following day he kicked three points.

Larry and Jason are past it at county level - it's a joke that we're relying on them, but they made a big effort. Mulvey and Eamon Reilly didn't underperform because they're both rubbish at inter county level - one too cumbersome and fond of the beer, the other too light and unable to tackle.

The real underperformers this year were McKeever, Pierson and, most of all, Donal Keogan.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Maximus Marillius on August 09, 2007, 10:35:57 AM
The under performers in Cavan are the supporters, who cannot see that they have hardly a decent county footballer, and yet they cannot understand how the f**k they are not doing better....No college teams worth two balls of blue for 30 years, no winning minor or u21 teams for god knows how long and nto a club team in cavan to have played in an Ulster club final never mind won it, and ye still expect cavn to have a division one team :o :o :o :o :o :o :o
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on August 09, 2007, 10:45:55 AM
Quote from: Maximus Marillius on August 09, 2007, 10:35:57 AM
The under performers in Cavan are the supporters, who cannot see that they have hardly a decent county footballer, and yet they cannot understand how the f**k they are not doing better....No college teams worth two balls of blue for 30 years, no winning minor or u21 teams for god knows how long and nto a club team in cavan to have played in an Ulster club final never mind won it, and ye still expect cavn to have a division one team :o :o :o :o :o :o :o

Max - you pop your head in here talking shite every so often - whats the deal. Fishing for a row? Maybe you are bored - take up a hobby or something. Who on here has said that we expect to be a Div 1 team. We all know that we have limitations but we also know when our players (the ones that many of us here watch week in week out in club and county games) are under performing. True, our underage success level is abysmal but our defeats this year stench of something else.

Hollow Man. Was at all 3 of those games. He was good against Meath but did nothing against Sligo or Wexford that I can remember (2 games we were lucky to win & Draw). He was destroyed against Roscommon in league semi and then against Down (no matter who he was marking) and then he fucked off - thats my reading of it. He dissapointed me anyhow as I expected him to be one of our main men this year after some great performances in previous years. Johnstone was poor all league. He used to take players on and beat them but this year he didn't seem to want to and was more inclined to take stupid shots from impossible angles and then he fucked off too. Leaving for the US shows me both players hearts weren't in it. Oh yeh - I am smoking Angry Pot today, works the opposite to normal Pot! ;D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Maximus Marillius on August 09, 2007, 10:54:35 AM
Myles i read most of the county pages from time to time, but this one, to me is something else. I read the same tripe, player attitude, committment atc etc, the point is your not good enough and all the aformentioned teams ie college, club, minor and u21 continue to provide you with nothing of any quality. Stop knocking the players...accept they are not good enough. The clubs are your real problem, they are the ones not producing the talent, or devloping the talent....that is your real problem
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: shotstopper1 on August 09, 2007, 11:14:12 AM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on August 08, 2007, 01:12:13 PM
Heavy fines and suspensions
08 August 2007


The after-match brawl which followed the Cavan SFC first round replay between Cavan Gaels and Gowna on Sunday 5th August in Kingspan/Breffni Park, Cavan which resulted in three Cavan Gaels players being sent off and a sideline brawl at the conclusion of the game was dealt swiftly and efficiently by the Competitions Control Committee of Cavan Co. Board who met on Monday night last, 6th of August. Having viewed the video evidence of both the match and the scenes afterwards they issued the following suspensions and fines – The Gowna club was fined

1,000 euros and the following were suspended – Sean McGahern (Gowna) 48 weeks, Martin McKeever (Gowna) 48 weeks, Bernard Morris (Gowna) 24 weeks and Willie Stephens (Gowna) 4 weeks, plus the next game in the competition.

Cavan Gaels were fined 2,000 euros and warned as to their future conduct. Sean Reilly received 48 weeks, Sean Higgins 8 weeks and Eoghan Elliott 4 weeks and the next game in the championship, Karl Crotty 2 weeks.

The clubs have just three days in which to appeal the suspensions and fines to the Hearings Committee of the Co. Board.



Wasn't at the game but from all reports there was a mass brawl involving all the players,mentors and some supporters.Yet after having viewed video evidence of the game and aftermath only 8 people were suspended (subject to appeal),3 who were sent off during the game, .Does this seem to anyone like a cop out from the CB's Competitions Control Committee?Or just maybe was the whole thing blown outta proportion?
I actually think that both Morris and Reilly's suspensions as players were severe,if they were suspended for the rest of the championship it would have sufficed.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on August 09, 2007, 11:28:55 AM
Quote from: shotstopper1 on August 09, 2007, 11:14:12 AM

Wasn't at the game but from all reports there was a mass brawl involving all the players,mentors and some supporters.Yet after having viewed video evidence of the game and aftermath only 8 people were suspended (subject to appeal),3 who were sent off during the game, .Does this seem to anyone like a cop out from the CB's Competitions Control Committee?Or just maybe was the whole thing blown outta proportion?
I actually think that both Morris and Reilly's suspensions as players were severe,if they were suspended for the rest of the championship it would have sufficed.

Wasn't at it either but was told that it was Reilly who started the brawl by charging onto the pitch after the final whistle and taking into a Gowna player.  If this is true his ban would be fair enough.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on August 09, 2007, 11:32:01 AM
Quote from: Maximus Marillius on August 09, 2007, 10:54:35 AM
Myles i read most of the county pages from time to time, but this one, to me is something else. I read the same tripe, player attitude, committment atc etc, the point is your not good enough and all the aformentioned teams ie college, club, minor and u21 continue to provide you with nothing of any quality. Stop knocking the players...accept they are not good enough. The clubs are your real problem, they are the ones not producing the talent, or devloping the talent....that is your real problem

There is no doubt that there is some truth in what you are saying about the standard of our clubs, underage levels etc. But that is no where near the whole story. I look back from 1999 - 2003 we were in Div 1 of the league and even contested a league final. Most of the players we had then are still on the team -maybe that is part of the problem - but surely you would expect those same players to perform a little better than they have been. The year we got relegated we beat a Full strength Armagh team 3-12 to 0-08 in Breffni. Club football in Cavan was shite back then too. Now don't take it that I am saying we are some great 1st division team or anything, but I do think that we could be a decent Div 2 team. Look around, there are only a handfull of teams capable of winning the All Ireland. But Sligo won connaught (we beat them this yr), Meath are in the All Ireland Semi (we did everything but beat them with 14 men this yr), Louth had a good run in qualifiers. The standard of club football is pretty similar in all those counties I would say. We have had young players making Irish compromise rules teams although any sort of minor success has eluded us. Something else has to be wrong somewhere. In defence of our thread, some of us here are just discussing what that "wrong" is and how we might rectify it. Believe me, I read other threads here and there is no where near the level of crap talked here than there is elsewhere - check out the mayo one!. All the Cavan boys on here are quite reasonable people, we don't have one "Hoganstand" type fool even. Your problem Max, is that everything is black or white. You are good or you are shite - no in between. It is not so simple. One thing I will say in all honesty. If we had our best 15 players lined up, hungry, organised and ready to kill for the Cavan jersey I reckon, on our day, we would be capable of beating 85-90% of the other counties in Ireland just like the Sligos and Louths and Meaths are at the moment.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Maximus Marillius on August 09, 2007, 12:06:56 PM
You may have a point, certainly with Louth, but meath have had successful school teams and minor team teams producing players....Sligo, now that a different question, have they improved or was it a case of the others going backwards big time, Sligo looked really out of their depth last weekend. I suppose in essence your right, with the esxception of meath, but would you not agree that for your county to really prosper your clubs have to take a real long hard look at what they are doing because producing quality players they are not. Thats where I see the real progreess that will make a huge difference happen. For instance at our club and I know that we might have a strong football culture, but I cant see that as being anymore different to a large amount of your clubs, we have very poor underage tems from minor to u16, five age groups, 18, 17,15 & 14 year olds. D.Cassidy has pulled a number of people together and the work at u13 level down has increased 3 fold with the result that we have strong skill base in these groups down. We target 6 year olds and get them playing with the coaching. Heres the rub he insists that it is done 11 months of the season at least twice a week, so we have from 12 to 6 year olds getting it at least twice a week and in the better weather sometimes 3 times. that takes a lot of committment. As a result we know we have strong teams coming again. Maybe clubs there are doing that also, if they are and not improving they need to look at the coaching. Cass insist that each team has a level one qualified coach from that age group down and that person is totlally responsable for the coaching,and the new recruits are donig the foundation level, no exceptions.  We also meet to agree the style of football we want so that each team is being taught to play in a similalr way
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on August 09, 2007, 12:17:41 PM
Quote from: Maximus Marillius on August 09, 2007, 12:06:56 PM
You may have a point, certainly with Louth, but meath have had successful school teams and minor team teams producing players....Sligo, now that a different question, have they improved or was it a case of the others going backwards big time, Sligo looked really out of their depth last weekend. I suppose in essence your right, with the esxception of meath, but would you not agree that for your county to really prosper your clubs have to take a rweal long hard look at what they are doing because producing quality players they are not. Thats where I see the real progreess that will make a huge difference happen. For instance at our club and I know that we might have a strong football culture, bu ti cant see that as being anymore different to a large amount of your clubs, we have very poor underage tems from minor to u16, four age groups. D.Cassidy has pulled a number of people together and the work at u13 level down has increased 3 fold with the result that we have strong skill base in these groups down. We target 6 year olds and get them playing with the coaching. Heres the rub he insists that it is down 11 months of the season at least twice a week, so we have from 12 to 6 year olds getting it at least twice a week and in the better weather sometimes 3 times. As a result we know we have strong teams coming again. Maybe clubs there are doing that also, if they are and not improving they need to look at the coaching. Cass insist that each team has a level one qualified coach from that age group down, and the new recruits are donig the foundation level, no exceptions

Seeing as we have far more clubs than you,too many for our population of just over 60,000... its not possible for all clubs to put these proceedures in place

The best clubs at underage here however are putting similar efforts in that Bellaghy are.


we dont win at McRory Level because we give up a one year advantage to McCartans and all the Northern Schools.One year at that age is insurmountable.

despite being a bit of a tool you are right that we do overhype our underage teams every year.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on August 09, 2007, 12:21:01 PM
Quote from: Maximus Marillius on August 09, 2007, 12:06:56 PM
You may have a point, certainly with Louth, but meath have had successful school teams and minor team teams producing players....Sligo, now that a different question, have they improved or was it a case of the others going backwards big time, Sligo looked really out of their depth last weekend. I suppose in essence your right, with the esxception of meath, but would you not agree that for your county to really prosper your clubs have to take a real long hard look at what they are doing because producing quality players they are not. Thats where I see the real progreess that will make a huge difference happen. For instance at our club and I know that we might have a strong football culture, but I cant see that as being anymore different to a large amount of your clubs, we have very poor underage tems from minor to u16, five age groups, 18, 17,15 & 14 year olds. D.Cassidy has pulled a number of people together and the work at u13 level down has increased 3 fold with the result that we have strong skill base in these groups down. We target 6 year olds and get them playing with the coaching. Heres the rub he insists that it is done 11 months of the season at least twice a week, so we have from 12 to 6 year olds getting it at least twice a week and in the better weather sometimes 3 times. that takes a lot of committment. As a result we know we have strong teams coming again. Maybe clubs there are doing that also, if they are and not improving they need to look at the coaching. Cass insist that each team has a level one qualified coach from that age group down and that person is totlally responsable for the coaching,and the new recruits are donig the foundation level, no exceptions.  We also meet to agree the style of football we want so that each team is being taught to play in a similalr way

Agree completely in what you are saying about underage development. Too many clubs have old style ejits running their underage set-ups. Many are unwilling to listen to advice never mind take a course. This is certainly where it starts to go wrong. I think many clubs are improving but many are not. Part of the problem is getting the right people involved to do training. Many parents are happy to dump their kids at the door and speed of for some freedom for an hour. I myself trained teams in U12 and U14 when I was about 25 yrs old. I was offered no training or the like. I did have an attitude of never giving up on a kid which a lot of the older generation would do if you were too fat, too small or just not from the right family stock. The U12's i trained got to a county final and 3/4 of them are now county minors. What I am most proud of is that about 15 of the panel of 20 are still playing football. The biggest problem is getting volunteers and then ones that are open minded enough to attend training courses and to apply what they are told.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Hollow Man on August 09, 2007, 12:31:26 PM
QuoteHe was good against Meath but did nothing against Sligo or Wexford that I can remember (2 games we were lucky to win & Draw). He was destroyed against Roscommon in league semi and then against Down (no matter who he was marking


I personally thought Brady's performance at wing back against Sligo (his man was taken off, he cleared a ball off the line, filelded some crazy balls, kicked a point from the right corner flag with his right foot - best Cavan point this year -  and had another sweet point ruled out when it was clearly over) was probably the best by any Cavan player this year.

When the going got tough against Wex, her got stuck in I thought - he had won the All Ireland senior singles the evening before.

Agree re roscommon, but he was out of position - put McCabe at full back or Hannon at full forward and you'll see the same result!

Anyway, doubt he or Jelly will be back when Keogan's there...

What i would be worried about is McKeever, Pierson etc. The amount of Cavan fellas you see falling round the town drunk is incredible - I would suggest that their hearts aren't in it.

I'd have a lot more respect for fellas who give it everything all eyar but leave on a point of principle (ie being fucked around) than fellas who go through the motions all year, drinking, messing about. You can tell who they are by their performances.

I understand when people say that the lads probably shouldn't have gone to Chicago (esp Cahill who was keeping his place ahead of Fannin, who had done very well) but they knew the camp was fucked, there was no discipline and the manager was incompetent. Plus they got a great offer and needed to support themselves.

Keogan is a clown, pure and simple. He's going to set us back years, and we're bad enough already...
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on August 09, 2007, 12:46:41 PM
well Keoghan has one more year in which to bring cavan on,staying up in Division Two and at least two wins in the championship are realistic and achieveable goals for me anyway.If he doesnt he will be gone its that simple.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Hollow Man on August 09, 2007, 12:56:35 PM
Grimley will go to Armagh and we'll be left with the other clown, whose two managerial jobs are with the county minors and then seniors. It's just laughable.

QuoteStop knocking the players...accept they are not good enough

We have had more representatives on the Irish Under 17 International Rules team than any other county in Ulster. This suggests that we are producing 16/17 year olds as talented as anywhere else. So, Max, you're completely wrong - the players are good enough.

The attitudes, however, are terrible.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on August 09, 2007, 01:03:56 PM
HM

If Grimley goes to Armagh,Keoghan would have to bring another trainer in to replace him id imagine.
Keoghan doesnt actually train the team(Julie Davis does the physical work and Grimley the ball work) or do tactics(Grimley) or make the changes along the line(Grimley again)  :D, so in all honesty what the f**k is he there for?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on August 09, 2007, 01:08:14 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on August 09, 2007, 01:03:56 PM
HM

If Grimley goes to Armagh,Keoghan would have to bring another trainer in to replace him id imagine.
Keoghan doesnt actually train the team(Julie Davis does the physical work and Grimley the ball work) or do tactics(Grimley) or make the changes along the line(Grimley again)  :D, so in all honesty what the f**k is he there for?

Maybe he is supplying the after match refreshments which Homer reckons has the boys falling around the town. I did see him collecting the balls after shooting practice in Croker before the Roscommon game so he is contributing something else.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Maximus Marillius on August 09, 2007, 01:09:00 PM
Quote from: Hollow Man on August 09, 2007, 12:56:35 PM
Grimley will go to Armagh and we'll be left with the other clown, whose two managerial jobs are with the county minors and then seniors. It's just laughable.

QuoteStop knocking the players...accept they are not good enough

We have had more representatives on the Irish Under 17 International Rules team than any other county in Ulster. This suggests that we are producing 16/17 year olds as talented as anywhere else. So, Max, you're completely wrong - the players are good enough.

The attitudes, however, are terrible.

Hollow man, Derry and Tyrone do not let their kids go to that shit.....so pretend ye know what yer talking baout....its says more about cavan I think
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on August 09, 2007, 01:18:45 PM
Quote from: Maximus Marillius on August 09, 2007, 01:09:00 PM
Quote from: Hollow Man on August 09, 2007, 12:56:35 PM
Grimley will go to Armagh and we'll be left with the other clown, whose two managerial jobs are with the county minors and then seniors. It's just laughable.

QuoteStop knocking the players...accept they are not good enough

We have had more representatives on the Irish Under 17 International Rules team than any other county in Ulster. This suggests that we are producing 16/17 year olds as talented as anywhere else. So, Max, you're completely wrong - the players are good enough.

The attitudes, however, are terrible.

Hollow man, Derry and Tyrone do not let their kids go to that shit.....so pretend ye know what yer talking baout....its says more about cavan I think

aye but the fact that we have had more youngsters on it than the likes Kerry,Armagh,Dublin,Laois,Mayo,Galway etc means nothing of course does it max?  ::)
Hollowman is correct in what he says,The attitude of players in this county is atrocious.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Maximus Marillius on August 09, 2007, 01:24:04 PM
FFs Haise, would you listen to yourself, ye have more from Kerry, Armagh, Galwat etc, if these lads are so good why haven't you won a minor Ulster championship....don't you get most counties dont let there best go

QuoteThis suggests that we are producing 16/17 year olds as talented as anywhere else
...that is some laugh...with all those minor titles
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on August 09, 2007, 01:30:23 PM
Quote from: Maximus Marillius on August 09, 2007, 01:24:04 PM
FFs Haise, would you listen to yourself, ye have more from Kerry, Armagh, Galwat etc, if these lads are so good why haven't you won a minor Ulster championship....don't you get most counties dont let there best go

QuoteThis suggests that we are producing 16/17 year olds as talented as anywhere else
...that is some laugh...with all those minor titles

Its alot easier to win Leinster,Munster and Connacht Minor titles Max.
Our lack of minor titles is a combination of
bad coaching/management,bad preparation,over confidence and yes you are correct in a fair few cases lack of talent.
However we have had a few talented teams over the last 10 years that have matched eventual all ireland and Ulster champions all the way in games,yet have contrived to lose them all.

Derry in 2001
Tyrone in 2003 etc

we simply have a losing culture at County level down here im afraid Max.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on August 09, 2007, 01:32:04 PM
Max piss of we know we are crap and haven't won anything in a long time. 
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Maximus Marillius on August 09, 2007, 01:35:39 PM
How does a county that has 5 all irelands...admittedly all won before our club bellaghy won its first of 21 county titles in 58 develop a losing culture, what went wrong.....i'm asking this so we done fall into the same trap in Bellaghy ;)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on August 09, 2007, 01:41:40 PM
Quote from: Maximus Marillius on August 09, 2007, 01:35:39 PM
How does a county that has 5 all irelands...admittedly all won before our club bellaghy won its first of 21 county titles in 58 develop a losing culture, what went wrong.....i'm asking this so we done fall into the same trap in Bellaghy ;)

You develop a losing culture by first of all not winning Ulster and All Ireland titles,
we however have gone further.
in losing close games which were there for the taking.ive lost count of how many times we have done that since ive first went to Cavan games.
You have no idea what that does to the psyche of a county.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Hollow Man on August 09, 2007, 01:45:58 PM
Jesus, Ballyhaise, don't do it to us...

2004 Ulster Under 21 final, one point after extra time...

2005 Ulster minor semi final, one point after extras time in a replay to the team who went on to win the All Ireland...

QuoteDerry and Tyrone do not let their kids go to that shit

They're dead right Max. One thing though - was Tony Scullion not the Under 17 manager the first year of the series (Cavan captain that year by the way)?

Wouldn't be like a Derry legend and full time coach to initiate "that shit", would it?

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on August 09, 2007, 01:50:07 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on August 09, 2007, 01:41:40 PM
Quote from: Maximus Marillius on August 09, 2007, 01:35:39 PM
How does a county that has 5 all irelands...admittedly all won before our club bellaghy won its first of 21 county titles in 58 develop a losing culture, what went wrong.....i'm asking this so we done fall into the same trap in Bellaghy ;)

You develop a losing culture by first of all not winning Ulster and All Ireland titles,
we however have gone further.
in losing close games which were there for the taking.ive lost count of how many times we have done that since ive first went to Cavan games.
You have no idea what that does to the psyche of a county.

That certainly is a large factor in Cavans case. Every year we seem to have this problem. We can't hold onto a narrow lead, somewhere deep in the back of the mind we expect to be caught. Somewhere in the back of the minds we are happy with the moral victory I suppose. It is probably the most difficult of all our problems to fix and it will probably require a minor team to win ulster and come up through the rankings expecting to win. Max, you could help us out here. When Cavan were winning there 39 Ulster titles and 5 All irelands teams like Derry, tyrone and Armagh were all loosing. How did Derry break the cycle of losing to win the All Ireland? ;D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Maximus Marillius on August 09, 2007, 01:55:52 PM
QuoteThey're dead right Max. One thing though - was Tony Scullion not the Under 17 manager the first year of the series (Cavan captain that year by the way)?

Wouldn't be like a Derry legend and full time coach to initiate "that shit", would it?

Hollow man....name a derry player who played please
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Maximus Marillius on August 09, 2007, 01:57:48 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on August 09, 2007, 01:50:07 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on August 09, 2007, 01:41:40 PM
Quote from: Maximus Marillius on August 09, 2007, 01:35:39 PM
How does a county that has 5 all irelands...admittedly all won before our club bellaghy won its first of 21 county titles in 58 develop a losing culture, what went wrong.....i'm asking this so we done fall into the same trap in Bellaghy ;)

You develop a losing culture by first of all not winning Ulster and All Ireland titles,
we however have gone further.
in losing close games which were there for the taking.ive lost count of how many times we have done that since ive first went to Cavan games.
You have no idea what that does to the psyche of a county.


Myles, I only tell you what i think happened in derry we started to takje it reakky seriously, but the other very important thing happened , the troubles, our identity was threatened to be take away from us so we doubled our efforts....probably that than any other thing

That certainly is a large factor in Cavans case. Every year we seem to have this problem. We can't hold onto a narrow lead, somewhere deep in the back of the mind we expect to be caught. Somewhere in the back of the minds we are happy with the moral victory I suppose. It is probably the most difficult of all our problems to fix and it will probably require a minor team to win ulster and come up through the rankings expecting to win. Max, you could help us out here. When Cavan were winning there 39 Ulster titles and 5 All irelands teams like Derry, tyrone and Armagh were all loosing. How did Derry break the cycle of losing to win the All Ireland? ;D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on August 09, 2007, 02:08:37 PM
Quote from: Maximus Marillius on August 09, 2007, 01:55:52 PM
QuoteThey're dead right Max. One thing though - was Tony Scullion not the Under 17 manager the first year of the series (Cavan captain that year by the way)?

Wouldn't be like a Derry legend and full time coach to initiate "that shit", would it?

Hollow man....name a derry player who played please

Mark Lynch captained the team only a few of years ago Max.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Maximus Marillius on August 09, 2007, 02:14:13 PM
Well done Homer, he did, he was the first and last. 10 out of 10 Homer, your the winner. but he was the first and last, it was stopped. I mean that...it was stooped
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Hollow Man on August 09, 2007, 02:27:32 PM
Quotebut he was the first and last, it was stopped. I mean that...it was stooped

As bearla le do thoil.

(Quick Max, get on Dictionary.com!!)

Seriously, you're looking down on the U17 Rules as "shit" but the first ever manager and a recent captain were Derry men?

Anyway, I agree, it is a load of shit. I'd like to see it stopped, but my point was that it is a decent indicator of the talent of your players at U16/U17 level.

By the way, after years of hammering teams in the Manning Cup, Cavan Under 16's entered the Buncrana Cup this year and beat all around them. They are in the final this weekend I think, they gave Tyrone a nice trimming in the semi.

So the players are being produced, up to that level at least. It's the attitudes of player and various managements that are shite - you see county minors strutting around like they're Maurice Fitzgerald, that's the problem...
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: billy the kid on August 09, 2007, 02:57:20 PM
its some strech to compare a group of cavan u16s who have got to the final of a tin cup to the great fitzgerald!!! I totally agree wid max on this one if cavan football is so great in the last 20 years wheres all the Rannafast cups youve won, mccrory cups, ulster and all ireland minors, U21 ulster and all irelands and senior ulster and all irelands????  Fair enough you won an ulster in 1997 with by a point that was actually a wide but honestly what else??? 

the fact you are citing getting players on the u17 international rules side as some sort of achievement to beat the rest of us with just demonstrates how far you have fallen from the days of 5 all irelands.  Derry dont send the stars of the future to these u17 talent shows cause this is where the australian teams go for their bargain hunting.  ie Martin Clarke. 

the u17 shit means nothing its not that long ago that cavans nicolas walsh was "the next big thing" because he was starring for the u17 team at the time.  now look at him he is a decent enough squad player on a poor county team he doesnt dominate games and is usually detailed to play a very negative marking and fouling game on the star mid fielder on the other team. 

U17 INTERNATIONAL SHIT
your right max!!!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Hollow Man on August 09, 2007, 03:05:07 PM
From this...

QuoteIt's the attitudes of player and various managements that are shite - you see county minors strutting around like they're Maurice Fitzgerald, that's the problem...

You came up with this...

Quoteits some strech to compare a group of cavan u16s who have got to the final of a tin cup to the great fitzgerald!!!

I give up!

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on August 09, 2007, 03:08:11 PM
Quote from: billy the kid on August 09, 2007, 02:57:20 PM
its some strech to compare a group of cavan u16s who have got to the final of a tin cup to the great fitzgerald!!! I totally agree wid max on this one if cavan football is so great in the last 20 years wheres all the Rannafast cups youve won, mccrory cups, ulster and all ireland minors, U21 ulster and all irelands and senior ulster and all irelands????  Fair enough you won an ulster in 1997 with by a point that was actually a wide but honestly what else??? 

the fact you are citing getting players on the u17 international rules side as some sort of achievement to beat the rest of us with just demonstrates how far you have fallen from the days of 5 all irelands.  Derry dont send the stars of the future to these u17 talent shows cause this is where the australian teams go for their bargain hunting.  ie Martin Clarke. 

the u17 shit means nothing its not that long ago that cavans nicolas walsh was "the next big thing" because he was starring for the u17 team at the time.  now look at him he is a decent enough squad player on a poor county team he doesnt dominate games and is usually detailed to play a very negative marking and fouling game on the star mid fielder on the other team. 

U17 INTERNATIONAL SHIT
your right max!!!

we arent comparing under 16's to Fitzgerald,
We are saying our under 16's think they are Maurice Mitzgerald because they are on a county team.

St Pats have won 1 Rannafast in recent memory,
we arent in a position to compete in the McRory competition as we give away one year to all the rest of the schools.The last time St Pats even qualified for the quarter finals of the competition!!!!!! was about 8/9 years ago they had about 4 or 5 repeats as key members,repeats who would have been the same age as the vast majority of the opposition team.
Daryl McConnell,Enda King etc.And thats only 4 or 5!!!
Virginia Vocational schools have however won the last two All Ireland Vocational schools titles.
we have been debating as to why we havent won any Minors and Under 21's.

Nicholas Walsh was in Austrailia for two years.
Hes now more interested in the more physical aspects of the game than actually playing football,usually doesnt even bother trying to catch the ball and when he gets it in open play just hand passes it.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: billy the kid on August 09, 2007, 03:17:18 PM

Nicholas Walsh was in Austrailia for two years.
Hes now more interested in the more physical aspects of the game than actually playing football,usually doesnt even bother trying to catch the ball and when he gets it in open play just hand passes it.

[/quote]

this is another reason that counties with a bit of foresight keep their stars of the future away from such squads.  theres no doubt that theres talent in cavan but attitudes, coaching, preparation or something is badly wrong because at present only antrim rank lower thaqn you in ulster and this shouldnt be the case.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on August 09, 2007, 03:40:38 PM
Thanks for that Billy. You seem to be on a whirlwind tour of all the County threads today, don't let us hold you back  ;)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on August 09, 2007, 04:20:22 PM
The Step of bringing our Under 16's into the Buncrana Cup playing other Ulster teams is the key one,
if we can get our young players beating the Tyrones,Derry's at that age,
the culture of losing which ive said is evident in Minor and Under 21 will mean little to them as they know they have what it takes to beat such teams.

i see they havent appointed a minor manager yet,when now would be the perfect time as the Minor championships will be starting shortly.

If its not either Niall Lynch or Mickey Graham i for one wont be happy.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on August 09, 2007, 05:48:54 PM
Maxemathics for Idiots:

No recent minor pedigree (title wins the only factor considered) + No recent U21 pedigree (title wins the only factor considered) and No recent senior pedigree (title wins the only factor considered) = A county full of useless players.

For God's sake lads it's that simple, really, I can't think why we didn't realise it before and give up on the whole thing long ago. ::)

Max you're a tourist in this thread - Lord knows why but all are welcome - and any eejt can look at provincial minor, U21 results etc. and make a sweeping generalisation. But we just might know slightly better than you what's going on in our own county. Just maybe, ever think of that?

It's hardly a roll of honour to shout about or anything but in last few years, and these are the things people inside the county know and remember before taking a glance at the underage trophy lists:

- we held our own in Division 1 up until quite recently and reached a final
- gave Tyrone one of their toughest games en route to Sam and weren't as far away in the replay as the score suggests, gave them something to think about in an Ulster final a few years previously as well
- lost a 50/50 battle to the eventual All-Ireland minor champs two years ago after a replay and extra time, just the latest episode in a tale of underage woe of which there's too many chapters to bother listing
- have had numerous standout players on the international rules underage sides
- pushed Armagh all the way in an Ulster semi-final, when they were in their pomp and one of the best teams around by some distance
- won 2 All-Ireland vocational schools titles in a row

It's easy to look in and in your boundless wisdom pronounce us as a county with no decent players. In fact we have lots of players - as a county that more or less plays no other sports it'd be hard not to, thought you'd know that - but their attitude is lousy and some of them won't even bother coming on to the panel.

You're just a WUM anyway and I normally wouldn't bother but guys like you sneering at us just piss me off.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on August 09, 2007, 07:57:54 PM
Well fair play Maximus you seem to have got a bit of a response anyway, Just a thought, there I was thinking that it was your political representatives up there who craved attention (Adams, McGuinness, Paisley, Donaldson etc. etc. etc. yawn yawn) and were willing to do anything to gain it. Your performances would suggest that this malaise may affect the broader population of the six county statlet. Why is this so? Discuss.

agree we're shite and it's depressing. Will agree that Under 17 Aussie Rules representation has not been worth Jack Shit to Cavan over the past 10 years in terms of development at senior level. Also agree that our representation is skewed by the fact that many counties keep their lads well clear of it-how many Armagh/Tyrone players in the last few panels. Mickey Harte's publc attitude to this project says a lot.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Maximus Marillius on August 10, 2007, 08:55:20 AM
You know, I will agree that underage success at county level is not completely necessary for senior success, but make no mistake about it, having good club structure, with competent coaching and then after that successful club sides winning Ulster titles is certainly a major factor in a successful winning county side....especially for some reason in Ulster.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Hollow Man on August 10, 2007, 04:27:33 PM
Quotehow many Armagh/Tyrone players in the last few panels

Don't know about Tyrone but there have been a few from Armagh - I think Charlie Vernon captained the team recently...
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on August 14, 2007, 10:25:13 AM
Anyone know if its true about gaynor not getting suspension because his name wasn't on the team sheet??  Seen it on hoganstand
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on August 14, 2007, 10:41:26 AM
Haven't been home in the last couple of weeks.. but from what I hear.

Gaynor's name was indeed missing from the team sheet due to some administration error which instead included Declan Beards name. This does seem to be the reason he got off. I'm sure there has to be a little more to it then this but thats alls I knows.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on August 14, 2007, 10:52:21 AM
Strange that there is no action been taken against the club then, i remember an u-21 club being kicked out of championship a few years back for having team sheet wrong.  Balliangh are very lucky.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on August 14, 2007, 11:15:23 AM
The incident you're referring to involved Castlerahen and Gowna in the 2004 u21 championship. Castlerahen had already disposed of the the Gaels before going through Gowna in the quarter-final.

Gowna lodged a complaint that one of the Castlerahen players had played illegally after playing football in London that summer. Castlerahen  responded by putting in their own complaint against Gowna; that the chairman of the club failed to sign their team-sheet as gaeilge.

The result of the calamity was both clubs were thrown out of the competition, and so with the Gaels, Castlerahen and Gowna now eliminated, Lacken were ultimately gifted their first Division 1 title.

Like I said I'm sure there is more to this than meets the eye. I know Gaynor was planning on appealing the suspension and I believe he was doing so with the backing of incident-witness Paul Grimley.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on August 14, 2007, 11:37:33 AM
Quote from: Homer on August 14, 2007, 11:15:23 AM

Like I said I'm sure there is more to this than meets the eye. I know Gaynor was planning on appealing the suspension and I believe he was doing so with the backing of incident-witness Paul Grimley.

Thats interesting and sets a precident if it happens again.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on August 14, 2007, 12:28:25 PM
Quote from: Homer on August 14, 2007, 11:15:23 AM
The incident you're referring to involved Castlerahen and Gowna in the 2004 u21 championship. Castlerahen had already disposed of the the Gaels before going through Gowna in the quarter-final.

Gowna lodged a complaint that one of the Castlerahen players had played illegally after playing football in London that summer. Castlerahen  responded by putting in their own complaint against Gowna; that the chairman of the club failed to sign their team-sheet as gaeilge.

The result of the calamity was both clubs were thrown out of the competition, and so with the Gaels, Castlerahen and Gowna now eliminated, Lacken were ultimately gifted their first Division 1 title.

Like I said I'm sure there is more to this than meets the eye. I know Gaynor was planning on appealing the suspension and I believe he was doing so with the backing of incident-witness Paul Grimley.

So let me get this right. Gaynor is/was going to appeal his suspension using a selector of the county team as a witness, the same selector who refused to allow him to play for the county all year cos he took a holiday! The mind boggles. Hopefully that means he will get a chance on the panel next year so.

On another note, this is Div 2 for next years league.....

Dublin (AI semi finalists, Favorites to win)
Cork (AI semi finalists)
Westmeath
Armagh
Monaghan (AI quarter finalists)
Roscommon
Cavan
Meath (AI semi Finalists)

We are going to have serious problems making any head way in this group, it looks stronger than Div 1.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on August 14, 2007, 01:01:23 PM
Staying in that division would be a bonus.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on August 14, 2007, 02:48:53 PM
2 from 3 to go down out of Cavan, Westmeath and Roscommon, it's simple as that looking on at this juncture. Lose or draw either of our games against those two and we're out the trap door, unless we catch one of the big boys cold in the first game or something, the league can throw up some odd results...
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on August 14, 2007, 06:02:39 PM
Quote from: cavanmaniac on August 14, 2007, 02:48:53 PM
2 from 3 to go down out of Cavan, Westmeath and Roscommon, it's simple as that looking on at this juncture. Lose or draw either of our games against those two and we're out the trap door, unless we catch one of the big boys cold in the first game or something, the league can throw up some odd results...

Armagh are in rebuild mode and we will see how good Cork in fact are in a few weeks. What's not beyond dispute is that we are facing a serious step up on last year and I'm sure Paddy Power will have us raging hot favourites to go down. Monaghan have showed what is possible with a bit of application, aided and abetted by Marty in his proper job, Paul O Dowd and, it would seem, feck all prima donnas from numbers 1 to 30.

Myles, the impression I got from our Ballinagh source on this thread was that it is Keoghan has it in for Gaynor, so it might be significant that Grimley is going the extra few yards for him. Mind you reports of Anthony's performances at club level this year have not been encouraging.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on August 14, 2007, 10:02:55 PM
Quote from: anglocelt39 on August 14, 2007, 06:02:39 PM
Myles, the impression I got from our Ballinagh source on this thread was that it is Keoghan has it in for Gaynor, so it might be significant that Grimley is going the extra few yards for him. Mind you reports of Anthony's performances at club level this year have not been encouraging.

Sums it up alright.

Gaynor hasn't stood out at all for us this year, IMO this is partially due to niggling injuries but mostly down to his absence from intercounty level training. In truth Anthony was an ordinary underage footballer before he became involved with the county minor set-up. Indeed I recall being quite shocked when he was selected to play centre half back against Donegal in his final year at the level.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BCharlie on August 15, 2007, 08:27:44 AM
Do you all really think A Gaynor is the answer?? Come on plz  ::)  :D
You never know Cavan may not get relegated, they usually lift their game against bigger teams. Typical really
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on August 15, 2007, 08:51:55 AM
Quote from: BCharlie on August 15, 2007, 08:27:44 AM
Do you all really think A Gaynor is the answer?? Come on plz  ::)  :DYou never know Cavan may not get relegated, they usually lift their game against bigger teams. Typical really

Who said anything about gaynor being the answer to anything?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on August 15, 2007, 09:23:21 AM
Quote from: BCharlie on August 15, 2007, 08:27:44 AM
Do you all really think A Gaynor is the answer?? Come on plz  ::)  :D
You never know Cavan may not get relegated, they usually lift their game against bigger teams. Typical really

Well he is not the whole answer but he may be part of it. Anytime I have seen him play he has always worn his heart on his sleeve. He goes in hard and gives 100% and his attitude alone has lifted players around him. In summary, he plays with a bit of balls. We have too many who don't and while his "skills" may be ordinary he more than makes up for it in other ways.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on August 15, 2007, 11:04:03 AM
The Irish News has it that Paul Grimley was interviewed for the Armagh job last week along with a few other candidates. If true, it doesn't say much for his committment to Cavan although then again, it's easy to understand why he'd be interested.

If Keogan is in charge on his own next year, we may fold up the tent now!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on August 15, 2007, 11:16:09 AM
Quote from: cavanmaniac on August 15, 2007, 11:04:03 AM
The Irish News has it that Paul Grimley was interviewed for the Armagh job last week along with a few other candidates. If true, it doesn't say much for his committment to Cavan although then again, it's easy to understand why he'd be interested.

If Keogan is in charge on his own next year, we may fold up the tent now!

There is a thread on GAAboard about this, the armagh boys seem to think that Grimley won't get it and instead it will go to some McDonald guy. They reckon the interviews are over anyhow and a decision will be made in the next day or two.  Keoghan on his own would be a joke, whats worse there would be a line of other fools behind him if he did step down. The likes of King or someone else with just as little know how.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on August 15, 2007, 12:31:44 PM
Can ye blame Grimley for trying to get the Armagh job?
the Armagh lads will give a proper committment,wouldnt go out for championship football,overweight etc...wouldnt f**k off to the US when still in the qualifiers.
as i said before,Keoghan will get another coach/trainer in if Paul Grimley leaves.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on August 15, 2007, 01:01:38 PM
Does it really matter who is in charge anyway  :-[
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on August 15, 2007, 01:04:13 PM
Quote from: cavan4ever on August 15, 2007, 01:01:38 PM
Does it really matter who is in charge anyway  :-[

sure it does,if we had a manager with some balls,Players wouldnt try these present chirades,and if they did,they would be fucked off the panel and other players who would give the required commitment brought in.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on August 15, 2007, 10:45:55 PM
just back from training,

beforehand,our juniors lost to Drumgoon 2-13 to 2-08 in ballyhaise

Drumgoon juniors included no other than Edward Jackson and Colm Hannon  :o

not bad players to be playing reserve football.

they will be a big bonus to the Goonies when they are fit enough to play championship football in a few weeks.

Drumgoon will be hard stopped for the intermediate.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on August 16, 2007, 10:36:24 AM
Anyone see any players who would be worth a go with county for next season?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: CavanCola on August 16, 2007, 10:46:16 AM
Quote from: cavan4ever on August 16, 2007, 10:36:24 AM
Anyone see any players who would be worth a go with county for next season?


John McCabe from Muntirconnaught. Was fantastic against Templeport. Great attitude - never quits. Probably won't get a call up becuase he's from a low profile Junior club - Cavan's loss.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Cavanfan on August 16, 2007, 03:31:35 PM
There are plenty of good players throughout the county, and that's why I believe there should be trials so that these players can be noticed. Wasn'tJohn McCabe the captain of the minors in 2003 if my memory serves me correctly, so what has happed to him since. Has he just not had the chance to prove himself as a senior player. There were a few finds this year and one of them was Johathan Crowe from Crosserlough. Was at the last to Xlough games and he played well in both so his confidence in his own ability has improved.

I think Keoghan will be able to get good selectors if Grimley does head off to Armagh. While it's a pity that he might go he's been looking at Joe's job for a few years now.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on August 16, 2007, 04:50:59 PM
John McCabe is a good player,would like to see him given a trial.He is probably not as fit as he could be playing Junior Football,County Training would give him that burst back that he had at underage level and improve his all round physique.
In the past ive listed25-30 players who i think should be tried on the county,im sure ye lads are sick and tired of seeing the list by now,so i wont bother posting it again.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: descartes on August 16, 2007, 05:45:20 PM
go ahead ballyhaise man, been off this board for a while, got a bit depressed with the football scene and stopped reading the boards, so don't know this list of yours, could you post it again, i'll do my best to critique it honestly. was it players who have never played county football before or was it players who currently aren't playing county football... cause if Trevor crowe/pierce Mckenna are  mentioned once more i'm gonna go ballistic. these guys dont want to play for cavan. Personally i think theres loads of talent out there. And i'm sick of people saying underage success is a prerequisite for senior success, and then too seconds later people talking about how great monaghan are. well Monaghan have won damn all at underage recently. All that underage success means is that the talent in the county is being succesfully harnessed (Laois population 67,000 being our role model), and a lack of underage success does not necessarily mean there is no talent in the senior ranks.

Anyway back to this list...
because at the same time i think certain people put forward as possible county players aren't near the level or capable of reaching the level required for county football. Take john McCabe, fantastic striker of the ball, very accurate, strong lad, but in my opinion far too slow for county level. is there a place for a slow but skilled player at county level these days? there's not too many of them about, certainly not in defence. Remeber Trevor crowe... He had to be jettsioned out of centre back and into midfield during his year on the panel as he was repeatedly exposed in defence for his lack of pace, johnathon crowe, this years find, struggled against both mayo and Antrim when marking fast lads and was substituted. Coleman decided to change his team in his second year in charge as he felt he needed more pace throughout the side. In came Martin Cahill, Michael Hannon, Keith Fannin. He moved Paul Brady and Eamon Reilly out of the corner backs, good defenders but too slow for that position. If any of the 3 defenders above (cahill, hannon, fannin) had to mark john McCabe i would be very surprised if he would get his hands on the ball more than once or twice in the match.

Anyway, this is not meant to be a rant... more like i'm trying to start a discussion. So can You please post this list of players BallyhaiseMan and we see what we have  ;)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on August 16, 2007, 08:11:47 PM
alright then alongside the present lads,
in 3 posts.

Senior Clubs

Mullahoran- Ciaran Sheils, Mad Eddie

Cavan Gaels-Niall Collins,Sean Higgins,Paul O Donnell,Gavin Duffy,Pauric Smith

Ramor Utd-Peter Monaghan,Anton Reily

Crosserlough-Declan Gaffney,Declan McCabe

Castlerahan-John Clarke,Pauric Smith

Drumalee-Darragh Gaffney,Gary Fernacombe

Lacken-Terry Hyland and Raymond Galligan

Belturbet-Rory Donohoe

Kingscourt-Darragh Gunne,Alan Clarke,Joe McMahon,Ryan McCormack,Thomas Wakely

Cuchulains-Seamus Clarke

Killygarry-Eoin Smith,Pauric Cahill,Thomas Leonard

Denn-Thomas Corr(deserves a better shot than 10 minutes in a McKenna Cup game)


Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on August 16, 2007, 08:44:40 PM
Intermediate

Drumgoon-Michael McDonald,Colm Hannon

Ballinagh-Podge,Gaynor,Cian McDermott

Baileborough-Neil Donnellan

Drung-Michael McEntee(worth a shot at cornerback)

Drumlane-Barry Corrigan

Swanlinbar-Michael Curran(midfield or full back) Mark Cunningham

Ballymachugh-James Kiernan

Lavey-Joey Jordan,Kevin Brady,Sean Maguire

Cootehill-John McCutcheon,

Ballyhaise-Barry Kelly,Fergal Slowey


Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on August 16, 2007, 08:47:20 PM
Junior

Arva-Dermot McGlade

Shercock-Liam Og Reily (CC1 ;) )

Munnterconnacht-John McCabe

Killdallon-Aaron Duignan

Mountnugent-Thomas Brady

Killeshandra-Declan McKiernan
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Handball Ace on August 16, 2007, 11:24:28 PM
Ballyhaise, what you have just done is complie of list of decent club players. A lot of them don't even stand out for thier clubs very often.


How can you possibly mention the likes of Aaron Duignan, Thomas Brady, Sean Maguire, Fergal slowey, Gavin Duffy, Niall Collins, John McCabe, Terry Hyland, Raymond Galligan, Ryan McCormack, Thomas Leonard, Seamus Clarke or Padraig Cahill as potential county seniors??

Most of these lads are average club players, and almost all of them have played either minor or Under 21 for Cavan in the recent past and not stood out. How could they compete in the Ulster SFC then?

You list Declan McKiernan there - come on, he barely got a kick for the minors against a shite Down team who were knocked out next time out. No way would he be anywhere near county senior standard in my opinion.

A few of thse lads could be worth a shout ofr size and strength eg Declan Gaffney, Michael McDonald but that's the pick of it.

You have Barry Corrigan, he's nearly 30!

The reality is that the best 30 players in the county, give or take a Gaynor here or an Eddie Reilly there, are on the panel.




Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on August 16, 2007, 11:44:10 PM
Well you should remember too Handball Ace, as Homer says earlier, Gaynor was not even a standout club player at underage or senior level for Ballinagh before getting pitched in against Down in the senior replay some years ago, and he was a revelation. A few years ago, Thomas Prior was unheralded and did a workmanlike job at number 3 for us - he was actually a fairly good defender in many respects but was crippled by a lack of strength under a high ball. Barry McCrudden was another came in and did a job for a spell, others like James Doonan and Karl Crotty also. All's I'm saying is: you just never know who'll sink and who'll swim when they're turfed into the waters.

I doubt BH man reckons all these guys are county material but if they were all given a go and we unearthed even two prospects out of the thirty tried, it'd leave us two players better off than we are at the minute. It can't hurt to try.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on August 17, 2007, 09:06:24 AM
Quote from: Handball Ace on August 16, 2007, 11:24:28 PM
Ballyhaise, what you have just done is complie of list of decent club players. A lot of them don't even stand out for thier clubs very often.


How can you possibly mention the likes of Aaron Duignan, Thomas Brady, Sean Maguire, Fergal slowey, Gavin Duffy, Niall Collins, John McCabe, Terry Hyland, Raymond Galligan, Ryan McCormack, Thomas Leonard, Seamus Clarke or Padraig Cahill as potential county seniors??

Most of these lads are average club players, and almost all of them have played either minor or Under 21 for Cavan in the recent past and not stood out. How could they compete in the Ulster SFC then?

You list Declan McKiernan there - come on, he barely got a kick for the minors against a shite Down team who were knocked out next time out. No way would he be anywhere near county senior standard in my opinion.

A few of thse lads could be worth a shout ofr size and strength eg Declan Gaffney, Michael McDonald but that's the pick of it.

You have Barry Corrigan, he's nearly 30!

The reality is that the best 30 players in the county, give or take a Gaynor here or an Eddie Reilly there, are on the panel.






I guaruntee you Declan mcKiernan will be on the county senior panel in time. He is still a minor and probably played the worst game of his life against Down. He was Cavans main man in any other minor match this year. I would also expect Thomais Reilly, his club mate, to make it too. They are only young lads so will need time.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on August 17, 2007, 12:00:55 PM
Handball Ace, are you not being a bit over critical of the Haise Mans efforts. From that lot we only need 3/4 to make some difference. Any proposals yourself? While we're on the topic of "club footbalers" it might be worth recapping on a few club standard players from the mid 90's-Philip Kermath, Ciaran Brady, Pat Sheils, Philip Smith, Ray Cunningham. These guys ended up having a crack at getting through to an All Ireland Final because they had a boss who had a game plan and a specific job for them to do within that plan. It also helped that McHugh was willing to trawl the county in search of players rather than taking the lazy route of going for fellas that played county minor (usually with limited enough success). Anthony Forde was unheard of until McHugh got a call from Athlone IT about his Sigerson Cup efforts. The story goes that once Marty heard where Forde hailed from he could work out how he had not been picked up through underage structures. Did Jason Reilly play at county minor level, don't think so.

We  now seem to have slipped back into the lazy system of Manning Cup Winner/Ulster Minor Loser=county panellist in fullness of time. This Aussie Rules thing seems to be another curse. From reading the posts of some others on this board it seems that Stevie Wonder has spotted that one or two of those lads are not inter county standard, yet we persist. Lets throw in Ger Pierson to the mix-everybody bangs on about him playing well in a match against Meath a few years ago, there have been a fair few anonymous performances for the amount of chances he has had.

There are a nucleus of 14/15 players on the current panel who, with the right leadership, programmes etc, defintely have what it takes to be competitive in next years league. Dump the names/deadwood/passengers and start to give blokes like Dermot Sheridan, Johnny Crowe, Michael Cunningham etc. a real chance. what have we got to lose?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Handball Ace on August 17, 2007, 12:18:13 PM
I know what you're saying lads, my point is that we should be picking fellas who are standing out for their clubs, at every level (then we won't miss a Forde)...

I agree about Declan McKiernan too (saw him in Trench Cup final, he was brilliant), but he's obviously not nearly ready yet.

Like, if we're naming fellas for the future why stop at this year's minors, why not Under 16s?

Also, good point about Gaynor that he came from nowhere, ut it's not as if he came on and won an All Star or somehting, he played a few good games, that was it.

I'm not being critical of your effort BH Man, I'm saying that a lot of those names just have absolutelyt nothing ot offer at county level.

We have enough ordinary players on the county panel.

As Val Andrews once noted, there is a hell of a difference between a good 19 year old and a good 25 year old. I'm totally against throwing 18 year olds in to the senior panel. I think we should leave them with their clubs and let them develop.

In other words, pick the players who do the business with their clubs.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on August 17, 2007, 02:07:37 PM
Quote from: Handball Ace on August 17, 2007, 12:18:13 PM
I know what you're saying lads, my point is that we should be picking fellas who are standing out for their clubs, at every level (then we won't miss a Forde)...

I
In other words, pick the players who do the business with their clubs.



I think alot of the lads that BHman mentioned are doing the business with their clubs, someone of them might be a bit young but the older men with the right trainng and coaching might be fit to do a job.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: descartes on August 17, 2007, 02:19:10 PM
QuoteSenior Clubs

Mullahoran- Ciaran Sheils, Mad Eddie

Cavan Gaels-Niall Collins,Sean Higgins,Paul O Donnell,Gavin Duffy,Pauric Smith

Ramor Utd-Peter Monaghan,Anton Reily

Crosserlough-Declan Gaffney,Declan McCabe

Castlerahan-John Clarke,Pauric Smith

Drumalee-Darragh Gaffney,Gary Fernacombe

Lacken-Terry Hyland and Raymond Galligan

Belturbet-Rory Donohoe

Kingscourt-Darragh Gunne,Alan Clarke,Joe McMahon,Ryan McCormack,Thomas Wakely

Cuchulains-Seamus Clarke

Killygarry-Eoin Smith,Pauric Cahill,Thomas Leonard

Denn-Thomas Corr(deserves a better shot than 10 minutes in a McKenna Cup game)

Terry Hyland? ...In fairness i don't think he's up to the standard. and Eoin Smith and Pauric Cahill had chances but were not up to it either.

alan clarke is definitely good enough, and were it not for his broken foot/leg this year i'd say he would have been on the scene.

Wakely and McCormack don't have the attitude for it, don't think McCormack is good enough anyway Ditto Peter Monaghan, shane cole his clubmate, now he had the talent but not the desire

Ciaran Shiels, reckon he deserves a shot alright, believe he was in before but only lasted a few weeks.

One very underrated player in my opinion is paul o'donnell, he has the potential to get through an  enormous amount of work, think this is important in the current game(  ::) duh einstein). that was one of the stand out things for me this year watching young martin reilly, work rate is a huge part of creating easily convertable scoring chances
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on August 17, 2007, 02:44:01 PM
Descartes post who you think should be on panel ?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on August 18, 2007, 12:48:58 PM
i dont mind criticism Handball ace :D

a very small percentage of those named would get on the panel no doubt,But we have to extend the net far and wide over the county,
That may mean trying out slots of players in McKenna Cup games games that wont make it,but sure its worth it in the chance we find some gems.

i named over 50 players there,if 5 of them made the breakthrough it would be a success

You had questions marks about the following...
Aaron Duignan, Thomas Brady, Sean Maguire, Fergal slowey, Gavin Duffy, Niall Collins, John McCabe, Terry Hyland, Raymond Galligan, Ryan McCormack, Thomas Leonard, Seamus Clarke or Padraig Cahill

Slowey and Duffy are definite countymen for me,both always outstanding for their clubs.Niall Collins gave a display of point taking against Gowna that i havent seen in Cavan Football for years.
Sean Maguire deserves one more shot to make it IMO.The Others are worth a trial at least,thats all i was thinking when i made the list.
Descartes

would disagree with you about Peter Monaghan,He has a world of talent,Power,Pace and a cultured left foot.

i probably shouldnt have named Declan McKiernan,as he was just a minor this year,and wouldnt be physically ready for senior for about 2 years.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: KIDDO on August 18, 2007, 01:57:32 PM
Any result for Gowna , last night.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: gortnaleck on August 18, 2007, 04:34:53 PM
Ballyhaise Man, What do you think about Sean Mc Cormick's left foot.Is he a prospect ?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on August 18, 2007, 04:56:21 PM
Quote from: gortnaleck on August 18, 2007, 04:34:53 PM
Ballyhaise Man, What do you think about Sean Mc Cormick's left foot.Is he a prospect ?

Sean McCormack barring injury will probably be the full back on the county under 21's next year.
He is a great prospect in my opinion.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: descartes on August 18, 2007, 08:47:47 PM
BHman, the Peter Monaghan conundrum... where do you play him? is he good enough for full forward? i reckon you put an intercounty fullback/corner back on him and he'll struggle. He plays midfield with his club from time to time but could he do it for the county? another 6 foot midfielder is all this county needs! ::) my recollection of him was he was a little on the lazy side, so that would rule him out of playing in the half forward line these days.

Paddy Brady from gowna needs to be brought back into the panel and worked on so he can get in top class shape again. he hasn't been fit since he was playing with sligo IT  a few years ago, shortly after they won the sigerson he screwed up his ankle, hobbled through an u21 championship with cavan and has suffered one niggling injury after another ever since.

Agree that Colm Hannon and Michael McDonald from drumgoon should be looked at. McDonald IMO has enormous potential, Hannon is a big strong intelligent player and performed very well under Kerrigan... why was he discarded? and why was gavin dufy discarded too, i think he suffered from living in gaynors shadow even if by the time he got his chance gaynor wasn't actually playing well for cavan, or was but in a sporadic fashion? there should be a core of talented players in the county in the age bracket of 23-27 that we should be looking at. we were in two Ulster U21 finals in 4 years (2002 and 2005) these players should be coming to the fore now. were it not for the foot and mouth in 2002 and lyngs injury in 2005 we would have won those titles. well the talent is there... Andrews proved that by cobbling together a motley crew, which kerrigan more or less kept ticking over to reach a National league division 1 final.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: gortnaleck on August 19, 2007, 06:58:25 PM
Ballyhaise Man  The San Francisco Sean Mc Cormack is a ful foward (13 aside)and the free taker so he'll probably want to be assigned different duties when he goes back
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on August 19, 2007, 10:26:14 PM
Lads my apologies but I wrongly informed you all that Gaynor had got off scot free.

Found out over the weekend that it was all just a big tale that gathered some steam.

Anyway turns out Gaynor lost his appeal during the week and was given a four week suspension and next game in competition.

Ooops  :-X
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Blue06 on August 20, 2007, 10:59:40 AM
Regarding Div 2 Nation League next year.

I think the promotion/relegation works like this. 

Promotion
2 go up automatically with 3rd place playing 3rd from bottom in Div1 in a play off  for the final Div 1 spot.

Relegation

Bottom 2 go down with 3rd from bottom playing 3rd from top in Div 3 in a play off for a Div 2 spot.

This will probably mean everyone playing for something right up to the last round.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: CC1 on August 20, 2007, 05:31:06 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on August 16, 2007, 08:47:20 PM
Junior
Shercock-Liam Og Reily (CC1 ;) )
Ah now he doesn't have my good looks in fairness BHM! ;)

I have to say though, he is an absolutely quality player and any player with any calibre that has come up against him has struggled to have any effect on the game (John McCabe, Keith Fannin, Larry Reilly, Darragh Gaffney etc. etc.). Our best player since Kenny Burns. He's being played at full forward with our injury problems up there for the last few matches and has scored some vital scores including the winning goal against Killeshandra.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: gortnaleck on August 21, 2007, 04:05:41 AM
CC1   Is Liam Og a son of Packy's
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: CC1 on August 21, 2007, 07:56:44 AM
Quote from: gortnaleck on August 21, 2007, 04:05:41 AM
CC1   Is Liam Og a son of Packy's
Son of Plunkett O'Reilly gortnaleck, Mickey Reilly is a son of Packy (I think... There's three of them!). They're related I think. Tom O'Reilly would be their uncle, if any of you remember him from his Cavan days.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on August 21, 2007, 08:55:37 AM
Quote from: CC1 on August 21, 2007, 07:56:44 AM
Quote from: gortnaleck on August 21, 2007, 04:05:41 AM
CC1   Is Liam Og a son of Packy's
Son of Plunkett O'Reilly gortnaleck, Mickey Reilly is a son of Packy (I think... There's three of them!). They're related I think. Tom O'Reilly would be their uncle, if any of you remember him from his Cavan days.

There were two Tom O'Reillys in the 1930s. Big Tom and Tom O'Reilly Mullahoran. Which one do you refer to?

Also I doubt theres anybody on this board that would have seen either of them playing.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: CC1 on August 21, 2007, 09:25:16 AM
Quote from: Homer on August 21, 2007, 08:55:37 AM
Quote from: CC1 on August 21, 2007, 07:56:44 AM
Quote from: gortnaleck on August 21, 2007, 04:05:41 AM
CC1   Is Liam Og a son of Packy's
Son of Plunkett O'Reilly gortnaleck, Mickey Reilly is a son of Packy (I think... There's three of them!). They're related I think. Tom O'Reilly would be their uncle, if any of you remember him from his Cavan days.

There were two Tom O'Reillys in the 1930s. Big Tom and Tom O'Reilly Mullahoran. Which one do you refer to?

Also I doubt theres anybody on this board that would have seen either of them playing.
Tom O'Reilly from Shercock, he played for Cavan too and was quite a good player at that.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on August 21, 2007, 09:44:27 AM
Quote from: CC1 on August 21, 2007, 09:25:16 AM
Tom O'Reilly from Shercock, he played for Cavan too and was quite a good player at that.

Was thinking there had to be another one, tried googling it and all but theres feck all out there.

Hadn't much to do yesterday and with this board down I ended up spending half the day reading the Cavan GAA thread on the old board.

Seem to have lost a few good posters since;

Give it Long, had some great stuff, must have got lost in the transition.

Rossi was here for a while but seems to have gone missing too.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on August 21, 2007, 09:56:11 AM
The board has gone quiet lately the club championships are at the quarter final stage and there is no talk of them atall.   

So Homer do u think you will finally win intermediate this year?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on August 21, 2007, 10:36:46 AM
Quote from: cavan4ever on August 21, 2007, 09:56:11 AM
So Homer do u think you will finally win intermediate this year?

Hmmm, we seem to be improving slightly so maybe coming good at the right time cavan4ever.

We're playing Cootehill in the park on Friday night. Anytime we have played them in the past its been fairly physical so we mightn't be too bad off having Gaynor in the stand. They have a few decent players in McCutcheon and young Smith. The big pitch will presumably suit Ballinagh more as I fell we will be fitter. Head on the line, Ballinagh by 5.

Personally I have to say Drumgoon are the team to beat this year.

What happened to Drung against Swad cavan4ever?

What does the HaiseMan think about their own aspirations?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on August 21, 2007, 10:41:02 AM
I see Castlerahan got knocked out by Cuchculains in the championship. What is the story with Castlerahan, they looked to be a promising team coming through but seem to have gone backward this year.

Still can't see anyone but the Gaels winning the Senior championship.

Intermediate is looking like a tough one to call. Ballinagh were my pick earlier and I won't change my mind but I see Swad are coming strong now at the right time. Wouldn't rule out Ballyhaise either.

Junior. For me it is one from Shercock, Killeshandra or Cornafaen.

I Copied this report on the Buncrana Cup from Hoganstand in case any of you didn't see it....

From Donegal News - Buncrana Cup Final (U16)
Donegal.......2-13

Cavan.........1-16

after extra time


REPORT BY CHRIS MCNULTY


DONEGAL and Cavan must do it all over again to determine the destination of the 2007 Buncrana Cup after an action-packed final finished all square at The Scarvey, Buncrana on Saturday afternoon last.

A dramatic soccer style goal from Cormac Coughlin three minutes from the end ensured that Donegal get another crack at the whip after they looked to be dead and buried when Darren Smith goaled for Cavan less than a minute earlier.

On eleven separate occasions in this keenly contested affair, the sides were level and they must meet again with St Eunan's man Coughlan having the final say when he fired past Sean Briody.

The ball broke to Coughlan and he showed fine soccer skills to dribble away from his man and powerfully blast beyond the reach of the 'keeper. Mere moments earlier, Darren Smith struck a hammer blow at the other end when he punished slack defending from the Donegal side to find the back of the Tir Chonaill net and give his men a 1-16 to 1-13 lead.

Cavan were dealt a blow when they were reduced to 14men and indeed the travelling contingent from the Breffni County was none too pleased with the referee in the minutes that followed the conclusion of this game.

There was some confusion at the end too when officials seemed unclear if there would be a second period of extra time played or whether the game would go to a replay with information first being relayed that another period of two five-minute spells would be played.

Donegal boss Des Newton was missing the services of the likes of Fiacra McGinley,Mark Dowds, Dara Grant and Jonathan Ward for Saturday's final and in the opening couple of minutes it was Cavan who asserted their worth with two Barry Reilly points giving them an early cushion.

The big midfielder turned in a magnificent display at centrefield and was a constant thorn in the Donegal side, kicking an impressive tally of nine points, six of which came from frees.

Eight minutes in, after Raymond McLaughlin opened their account, Donegal went into the driving seat when they burst through for the game's opening goal. Raymond McLaughlin did the spade work and it was his pass that released Dermot Molloy.

Naomh Conaill clubman Molloy took his pass and he beat a couple of Cavan defenders before driving a powerful shot beyond the reach of the helpless Sean Briody.

The visitors came back though and the next three scores were to the Breffni boys with a Barry Reilly point from play being followed by two well-taken points from his midfield partner Packie Leddy.

Michael McEniff, Owen Ward and Raymond McLaughlin were all on target then for Donegal with Kevin Tierney and Barry Reilly finding the range at the other end to leave the sides tied at 1-4 to 0-7 as the first half neared a finish.

Cavan looked as if they would have the upper hand at the interval when substitute Sean Nolan took a pass from Christy Shiels who had broke through the shackles of the Donegal defence and he popped over from close range.

But, the sides were deadlocked for the changeover when Gaoth Dobhair's Owen Ward clipped over at the other end after concluding a good move forward by the Donegal boys.

One felt that the corner forward's effort could perhaps have gone under, rather than over, the crossbar, but his effort ensured that the participants went in tied 1-5 to 0-8 after the first instalment.

Raymond Lynch and a free from Reilly gave Cavan a two-point lead at the start of the second half again, but three scores in as many minutes, two from Raymond McLaughlin and one from Dermot Molloy, had Donegal back in front.

Entering the final two minutes, after three scores in a row from the deadly Reilly, Donegal trailed by two, but they took the game to the extra period with Owen Ward and Raymond McLaughlin sending over well-executed points.

Into the extra time and Cavan were once again the quickest to settle and they had Reilly and substitute Dara Seagrave made it a two-point game again with two early frees, but at the changeover there was just a point to separate them, Owen Ward the Donegal point scorer.

Gaoth Dobhair native Ward had Donegal level again two minutes into the second half of extra time when he converted a free before Killian Brady came to the rescue of Cavan 'keeper Briody who spilled a long punt into the mixer from Molloy.

The two goals in the space of a minute then had collective hearts in mouths around The Scarvey and they proved to be the final acts of what was an entertaining final, played in wintery conditions.

Part two promises to be just as interesting.


Donegal: Ashley Mulhern; Johnny Harkin, Peter Devine, Stephen Doak; Thomas McKinley, Sean Kennedy, Cathal Ellis; Peter McGonigle, Stephen McCahill; Michael McEniff (0-1), Cori Gallagher, Dermot Molloy (1-2, 1 '45'); Jamie Doherty, Raymond McLaughlin (0-5, 1f), Owen Ward (0-5, 1f). Subs: Cormac Coughlan (for McGonigle, h/t, 1-0); David Dolan (for Doherty, 56mins); Sean Kennedy (for McCahill, 79mins).


Cavan: Sean Briody; Thomas Rodgers, Killian Brady, Fergal Blessing; Darragh Brady, Conor Tierney, Michael Brady; Barry Reilly (0-9, 6f), Packie Leddy (0-2); Christy Shiels (0-1), Kevin Tierney (0-1), Shane Reilly; Patrick Rudden, Raymond Lynch (0-1), Patrick King. Subs: Sean Nolan (for King, 21mins, 0-1); Dara Seagrave (for Tierney, 60mins, 0-1, 1f); Darren Smith (for S.Reilly, 1-0).


Referee: Fergal Daly (Tyrone).
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on August 21, 2007, 10:57:26 AM
Quote from: Homer on August 21, 2007, 10:36:46 AM
Quote from: cavan4ever on August 21, 2007, 09:56:11 AM
So Homer do u think you will finally win intermediate this year?

Hmmm, we seem to be improving slightly so maybe coming good at the right time cavan4ever.

We're playing Cootehill in the park on Friday night. Anytime we have played them in the past its been fairly physical so we mightn't be too bad off having Gaynor in the stand. They have a few decent players in McCutcheon and young Smith. The big pitch will presumably suit Ballinagh more as I fell we will be fitter. Head on the line, Ballinagh by 5.

Personally I have to say Drumgoon are the team to beat this year.

What happened to Drung against Swad cavan4ever?

i was away so didn't see the game. i've been told that the best team one.  Drung have had problems with players away on holidays for all the champiosnhip games but the biggest problem in my opnion seems to be lack of interest and management with no tactical cop on.   I think Drumgoon will win it handy enough.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on August 21, 2007, 11:09:46 AM
When is the replay of that U16 match? Has Mickey Graham and Co. not been given the county minor management gig yet?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on August 21, 2007, 11:12:36 AM
Quote from: CC1 on August 21, 2007, 09:25:16 AM
Quote from: Homer on August 21, 2007, 08:55:37 AM
Quote from: CC1 on August 21, 2007, 07:56:44 AM
Quote from: gortnaleck on August 21, 2007, 04:05:41 AM
CC1   Is Liam Og a son of Packy's
Son of Plunkett O'Reilly gortnaleck, Mickey Reilly is a son of Packy (I think... There's three of them!). They're related I think. Tom O'Reilly would be their uncle, if any of you remember him from his Cavan days.

There were two Tom O'Reillys in the 1930s. Big Tom and Tom O'Reilly Mullahoran. Which one do you refer to?




Tom O Reilly from Shercock-would have emigrated to New York in the late 60's early 70's and was in the pub game over there. A son of Plunkett would be handy enough at the ball all right-his Uncles would be Gerry and Joe-two good ball players and hardy lads to boot, played minor football in partnership with the Shamrocks when the clubs were merged at underage level in the mid-late 70's. As was the unfortunate trend at the time Joe headed off to Canada at a very young age-was a right hardy bucko the same boy. Brendan Carolan from the Shamrocks was another lad from that team that was lost to the emigrant boat, Mickey McEntee from Shercock also left but I think he's back now. Think Brendan is coaching GAA in Birmingham. Good players, big losses as was the trend at the time

Also I doubt theres anybody on this board that would have seen either of them playing.
Tom O'Reilly from Shercock, he played for Cavan too and was quite a good player at that.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on August 21, 2007, 03:57:03 PM
My ould fella was ironically telling a story at the weekend about Tom O'Reilly. He was watching the Meath match and was recalling one of the Royal's legendary hatchet men of yore, a guy called Red Collier who I've heard from numerous people was a filthy player. Apparently he buckled a gifted midfielder from Cork in an All-Ireland final, rushing in underneath him and turning him in the air as he jumped for a high ball and taking him to the ground at an awkward angle and breaking his collarbone.

Anyway, apparently Cavan played Meath in a Grounds Tournament match some time later and Collier gave Tom O'Reilly a belt of some description. The next thing, Collier takes off like a hare to get away and Tom tore off after him and caught him with a box on the side of the head and crumpled him. Collier was carted off in a daze and my father reckons it was the only time he saw the Meathman get his well-deserved comeuppance on the football field.

I'm sure Meath history has a different picture of both players but sure borders alter perceptions and all that. ;)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on August 21, 2007, 04:40:11 PM
I heard a rumour that Mickey Graham has got the minor job. Good luck to him I say - probably the best man for the job. Hearing mixed info on Grimleys position. The armagh gang seem to think he won't get the job but I am hearing in Cavan that he is taking it. I can't see how keoghan will stay on his own if Grimley goes and I also can't see how he can bring someone else in as it basically would show that he hasn't a clue - as most Cavan people know.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on August 21, 2007, 04:43:49 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on August 21, 2007, 04:40:11 PM
I heard a rumour that Mickey Graham has got the minor job. Good luck to him I say - probably the best man for the job. Hearing mixed info on Grimleys position. The armagh gang seem to think he won't get the job but I am hearing in Cavan that he is taking it. I can't see how keoghan will stay on his own if Grimley goes and I also can't see how he can bring someone else in as it basically would show that he hasn't a clue - as most Cavan people know.

Thats good about Mickey Graham anway.    I dunno if Grimley was much addition anyway but maybe it was just the players he had to work with.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
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Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Smokin Joe on August 22, 2007, 08:21:45 AM
Quote from: cavan4ever on August 21, 2007, 04:43:49 PM
  I dunno if Grimley was much addition anyway but maybe it was just the players he had to work with.

Is that the general thinking down in Cavan, that Grimley didn't add much to the set up this year?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on August 22, 2007, 09:59:38 AM
Smokin Joe, I think you will find out soon enough how good he is as I have heard yet again from a reliable source that Grimley is gone from Cavan - I expect that means he is going to manage Armagh. I have no idea where Cavan go from here - Mickey promote Mickey graham to senior manager too???
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on August 22, 2007, 10:08:07 AM
Well Grimley talked the usual talk about the players "giving it their all and training hard all year" and then we saw the usual number of unfit porkers huffing and puffing their way about the field against Down. I see today's paper says he has handed in his notice to the Cavan county board so where that leaves Keogan and the county team I don't know.

In mitigation, I would say he probably got nowhere near the same level of commitment and dedication out of the Cavan world-owes-me-a-living-I'm-a-countyman-so-I-don't have-do-the-work lead-swingers that he got in Armagh as a given. The players that put it in this year looked fit and decent enough, those who think they're too big to to have to descend to such lows as actual training and what not, they looked badly off the pace. Team fighting spirit on the pitch was well up on previous years as well.

Overall, he was hardly a raging success but some of that can be put down to the players. The fact is, the county board keeps trying to address the senior team's problems with its managerial appointments, when in reality the difficulties are more fundamental - there's no pride among playes in playing for the county any more, too many egos got away with too much for too long, nobody wants to work like the Monaghans of this world and nobody wants to take the long term view and start from scratch by disbanding the panel and starting again with 30 players who have signed up to a code of conduct or whatever, hence we're continually adhering to the same patterns with seriously diminishing returns.

I read in a yearbook that the new county chairman is committed to targeting underage sides and in particular their brittle mentality and smaller physique, by taking some of the methods of other Ulster sides. Has to be a start if it happens.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on August 22, 2007, 10:09:54 AM
It's in the indo today. Grimley's resignation as Cavan coach and imminent appointment as new Armagh manager.

(EDIT - maniac beat me to it)

Mickey Graham's new appointment is also mentioned. An excellent choice IMO. I take it Niall Lynch will be his number 2 then?

I can't see Keoghan being able to find anyone that would justify him another year at the helm.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on August 22, 2007, 12:38:19 PM
Quote from: Homer on August 21, 2007, 10:36:46 AM
Quote from: cavan4ever on August 21, 2007, 09:56:11 AM
So Homer do u think you will finally win intermediate this year?

Hmmm, we seem to be improving slightly so maybe coming good at the right time cavan4ever.

We're playing Cootehill in the park on Friday night. Anytime we have played them in the past its been fairly physical so we mightn't be too bad off having Gaynor in the stand. They have a few decent players in McCutcheon and young Smith. The big pitch will presumably suit Ballinagh more as I fell we will be fitter. Head on the line, Ballinagh by 5.

Personally I have to say Drumgoon are the team to beat this year.

What happened to Drung against Swad cavan4ever?

What does the HaiseMan think about their own aspirations?

we have either Swad or Baileborough Friday week in Breffini,

will be tough seeing as they will have played 3 games since we last played,but id fancy us to come through.

Agree, Drumgoon are the team to beat followed by ourselves and yous(the last two in no particular order btw  ;) )
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on August 22, 2007, 12:40:52 PM
Best of luck to Paul Grimley,cant blame him for going to work with players with a professional attitude afterall.

Who will Keoghan get as his assistant i wonder,

Im fairly sure he will stay though lads.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on August 22, 2007, 01:17:42 PM
Lord only knows what will happen now.

Keogan might see this as a good opportunity to get out after realising the enormity of the challenge facing him, explain it away with "me and Paul were a team, I won't continue without him etc."

We also have to consider how much Grimley's presence on the ticket swung the job for Keogan in the first place, will they get rid and give Keogan no say in his destiny at all?
Or will Keogan's financial input/sponsorships save him?

If he is to stay he'll have to bring in someone with a big coaching reputation that's for sure, if he takes it on himself I'm never going to a Cavan game again! He might look inside the county, you'd enver know.

All's up in the air again, between Eamon's illness and Marty taking over and eventual defection, to this, it's been a long period of flux for Cavan.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on August 22, 2007, 01:38:11 PM
Maniac

Keoghan isnt a recognised trainer and wouldnt be accepted by the our pre madonna's

Remember the fuss they kicked up over Liam Austin/Hugo Clerkin that the training wasnt good enough.

as if they would do the training anyway  :D

expect an appointment of someone within a few weeks id say.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on August 22, 2007, 01:55:28 PM
Well if he is not a trainer (as in tactics etc) and he's not a physical trainer then what the f**k is Keoghan there for. I don't like  this changing of the manager every year craic but this guy is a fool who doesn't command respect from anyone. He does not lead by example, knows Sweet FA about football and has no past form as a decent manager. He commands no respect from anyone that knows anything about football. Strip away the people he gathered around him and you are left with nothing. He won't quit himself but I'd like to see him given the door.

Unfortunatley I don't know who could take over from him. Possibly Peter Forde? Who would want to take over is the question.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on August 22, 2007, 01:57:12 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on August 22, 2007, 01:38:11 PM
Maniac

Keoghan isnt a recognised trainer and wouldnt be accepted by the our pre madonna's

Remember the fuss they kicked up over Liam Austin/Hugo Clerkin that the training wasnt good enough.

as if they would do the training anyway  :D

expect an appointment of someone within a few weeks id say.



He is hardly a recognised manager either .  He had a few catchphrase's to shout during a game from the line and grimley seemed to do everything else.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on August 22, 2007, 02:08:08 PM
Donal "WORKRATE" Keoghans CV

Cavan Minors 04
First round loss to Down

Cavan Minors 05
First Round win over Antrim
Semi-Final draw to Down
Semi-Final replay loss to Down

Cavan u21s 07
First round loss to Monaghan

Cavan Seniors 07
Ulster - First Round loss to Down
Qualifiers - First Round loss to Mayo



How many other counties would have him?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on August 22, 2007, 02:10:00 PM
yep

not a recognised manager, as he didnt do the tactics or gameplan,

Not a recognised coach, as he didnt do the physical fitness training or ball work either.

i dont know lads.

possible replacements jaysus

Charlie Mulgrew for me.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on August 22, 2007, 02:51:12 PM
Charlie Mulgrew is a decent shout I think, if Keogan goes. He was take-no-shit kinda guy in Fermanagh and fashioned a number of decent intercounty footballers from meagre enough resources. He might be just what we need if somebody at the top finally cottons on that we need to wipe the slate clean and start from fresh all over again, that's how rotten the thing has become.

We're in as dire a situation now as we were pre-McHugh, and a similar 'from-the-ground-up' type approach is needed. Don't hold your breath for the county board seeing it that way though, ten years of short-termism doesn't fill me with hope.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on August 22, 2007, 06:56:36 PM
change of pace here lads( and ladies now with Killygarry girl looking in)

seen a good debate on Hoganstand about a Junior XI

and why Cavan dont have a junior team?

whats the criteria for Juniors? have to play in Junior clubs or never have played senior intercounty?are intermediate club players ruled out?  :(

There was me raising my hopes of actually getting to wear the famous Breffini Blue shirt in Breffini :D

also seen one of our resident posters was named in a Junior XI,congrats on that  ;)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on August 22, 2007, 10:02:02 PM
Well Grimleys actions say more than all the platitudinous shite he went on with all year about lads giving it their all, every bit as professional as the Armagh set up etc. I, personally, am getting sick of listening to that sort of ballocks being spouted by bought in names with big expense accounts and limited committment.

Where the hell that leaves us now is anybodys guess. There's not much faith in the bold Donal on this board at any rate. It's all very well saying go for a local man, we don't have anybody in the county that can point to a real history of achievement at a worthwhile level, sort of a first step in commanding respect and getting fellas to want to wear the jersey. I have a lot of respect for what Mulgrew achieved in Fermanagh, would he want the hassle of the Cavan post? The best team we have had since McHugh was probably Coleman (had the record and knew to local game) and McIlkennon (doing the job he was qualified for). So there may be options outside the county, but god knows that brings it's share of freeloaders as well.

Never a dull moment. What worries me about the latest upheaval is that the players who have singularly failed to do the business over the past few years will get yet another chance to prove their lack of committment and ability.,
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: CC1 on August 23, 2007, 11:35:52 AM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on August 22, 2007, 06:56:36 PMalso seen one of our resident posters was named in a Junior XI,congrats on that  ;)
How did you find out BHM?! Should have been on the Senior 15 to be honest... ;)  ;D

Read that little discussion there alright, I definately think there should be a Cavan junior team and I think that point about Brian Farrell and Stephen Bray is definately a good one. There are some very talented players in the JFC, McCabe, Liam Og, Eamon O'Reilly (Shannon Gaels), McKiernan and others that have been mentioned already on this thread. Surely some of these lads should be given a chance to prove themselves on the intercounty stage, and if not senior intercounty, then junior intercounty. What is there to lose?

I'm not sure what the criteria is for junior intercounty but surely it would include players from intermediate that have never played in a senior championship or league game.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: maverick on August 23, 2007, 11:39:06 AM
Ballyhaise man. I just wanted to take you up on the quote below
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on August 22, 2007, 12:40:52 PM
Best of luck to Paul Grimley,cant blame him for going to work with players with a professional attitude afterall.

Who will Keoghan get as his assistant i wonder,

Im fairly sure he will stay though lads.

How do you know that the lads in the county at the moment dont have the same professional attitude as the armagh lads. They come down twice or 3 times a week along with weekends since november. I can gurantee you that they put in the exact same effort if not more. Just because we havent been successfull no need to knock a players commimtment. It takes alot of personal time to be a county footballer.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on August 23, 2007, 11:48:06 AM
Quote from: maverick on August 23, 2007, 11:39:06 AM
Ballyhaise man. I just wanted to take you up on the quote below
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on August 22, 2007, 12:40:52 PM
Best of luck to Paul Grimley,cant blame him for going to work with players with a professional attitude afterall.

Who will Keoghan get as his assistant i wonder,

Im fairly sure he will stay though lads.

How do you know that the lads in the county at the moment dont have the same professional attitude as the armagh lads. They come down twice or 3 times a week along with weekends since november. I can gurantee you that they put in the exact same effort if not more. Just because we havent been successfull no need to knock a players commimtment. It takes alot of personal time to be a county footballer.

All day drinking sessions is something i doubt the armagh players got up to when they were still in the championship and saturday nights leading up to games.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on August 23, 2007, 01:07:44 PM
Quote from: maverick on August 23, 2007, 11:39:06 AM
Ballyhaise man. I just wanted to take you up on the quote below
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on August 22, 2007, 12:40:52 PM
Best of luck to Paul Grimley,cant blame him for going to work with players with a professional attitude afterall.

Who will Keoghan get as his assistant i wonder,

Im fairly sure he will stay though lads.

How do you know that the lads in the county at the moment dont have the same professional attitude as the armagh lads. They come down twice or 3 times a week along with weekends since november. I can gurantee you that they put in the exact same effort if not more. Just because we havent been successfull no need to knock a players commimtment. It takes alot of personal time to be a county footballer.

as C4ever said

all day drinking sessions a couple of weeks before a championship game by a few major members of the team

a number of players being overweight and not fit enough for championship football

different players falling drunk around the town at weekends

Not exactly the highest degree of professionalism maverick.

Compare it to the Monaghan players enforced Drink ban and how seriously they took it.


we arent criticising the whole panel now,id say out of the 30, 23 /24 do put in the effort you say.
unfortunately having 6/7 of a panel messing around isnt good enough.




Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: maverick on August 23, 2007, 03:13:11 PM
All you need is 15 players on the pitch. How do you know the same does not happen in Armagh?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on August 23, 2007, 05:10:03 PM
Only an utter clown would argue that the attitude, professionalism and commitment of ALL the Cavan players is in any way on a par with what is widely recognised as one of the most obsessed, focused and self-disciplined bunch of players of the modern era - Armagh.

Most Cavan players are putting in the effort but there's quite a few who aren't and that's clearly obvious. Lorcan Mulvey, Larry Reilly and Jason Reilly were just three players carrying varying amounts of heavy timber this year and looking very unfit, can you name anyone on the Armagh team you could say the same about? Just look at their physiques for God's sake!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: descartes on August 23, 2007, 10:04:06 PM
Quotemost Cavan players are putting in the effort but there's quite a few who aren't and that's clearly obvious. Lorcan Mulvey, Larry Reilly and Jason Reilly were just three players carrying varying amounts of heavy timber this year and looking very unfit, can you name anyone on the Armagh team you could say the same about? Just look at their physiques for God's sake!

Any of the o'rourkes??? ciaran McKeever, but in fairness can never be sure if he just has a chest like arnie or if he's carrying weight  ;D ;D ;D

interesting debate raging on, whisper it now, hoganstand.com/cavan about an intercounty junior team. little known fact out there is that cavans junior team was disbanded in 1969ish, the last year we won an ulster excluding 97 of course. a coincidence? methinks not. people always talk about no minor win since blah blah blah, but the lack of a junior team has been a far greater contributor to our bad run than the lack of a minor titles.

BH Man, cullivan has done his cruciate i believe? that fairly throws a spanner in your plans for the intermediate. think bailieborough are slowly gathering momentum, of course b'nagh and drumgoon seem favourites.

heres a few thoughts on the weekend...

think k'scourt are gonna scare the b'jasus out of mullahoran this weekend, and think the gaels are gonna limp past ramor by no more than 4 pts.

Gowna will struggle without pierson against chucullains, but reckon they'll still do it. think its an interesting weekend in cavan football this weekend, the big 3 are all going to have it tight enough.


wonder will keoghan be at any of the games or will he be spending his time shopping for a new back room team ??? ??? ???
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Blue06 on August 23, 2007, 10:21:03 PM
Interesting quotes from our chairman Phil Smith in the Celt this week.  He said Grimley was given an ultimatum in that if he wished to apply for the Armagh job he had to resign his Cavan position first and that even if he failed to secure the Armagh position he wouldn't be welcomed back.
What do ye make of that? Is it some sort of smokescreen to save face ?

He also said that the management committee(who\what are they?) will now be looking to replace him.  Surely if Donal is the manager he should be doing the recruiting.

I am getting a bit suspicious now and this leads me to believe that Donal is simply a County Board representative to keep an eye on
whats going on as years of wasted money on outsiders has caught up with us.

Maybe i am in cuckoo land but something doesn't add up.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on August 23, 2007, 10:50:54 PM
Quote from: descartes on August 23, 2007, 10:04:06 PM
Quotemost Cavan players are putting in the effort but there's quite a few who aren't and that's clearly obvious. Lorcan Mulvey, Larry Reilly and Jason Reilly were just three players carrying varying amounts of heavy timber this year and looking very unfit, can you name anyone on the Armagh team you could say the same about? Just look at their physiques for God's sake!

Any of the o'rourkes??? ciaran McKeever, but in fairness can never be sure if he just has a chest like arnie or if he's carrying weight  ;D ;D ;D

I wouldn't confuse physical size with lack of fitness. Those guys train to be big so they might not look sleek but they'd leave alot of our boys puking over a hedge if it came down to a training session I'd wager...

Blue06...it certainly sounds like Keogan is emasculated there. Let's just sit tight and see how it plays out. I like what I've hard from this Phil Smith so far, a vocal chairman offering leadership?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on August 24, 2007, 08:23:47 AM
Yeah Phil Smith was definalty right in the way he handled Grimley.  If Keoghan is only there as a County Board representative and letting on he is manager nobody any addition will  want to be assistant manager.  Well i wouldn't think anyone who has managed inter-county teams before would go for it . 
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: The Bottom Brick on August 24, 2007, 01:24:45 PM
Isn't there some "history" between Keogan and Smith?

Smith was minor board chairman the year that keogan got shafted if I'm not mistaken...
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Blue06 on August 24, 2007, 02:17:42 PM
Isn't there some "history" between Keogan and Smith?

Smith was minor board chairman the year that keogan got shafted if I'm not mistaken...

I  know when Keogan finished as minor manager he was after receiving  a 6 month suspension from the county board.
He resigned citing not enough time to do the job due to personnel & business reasons.

He got that suspension late on in the year so his position as minor manager would have been untenable.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on August 24, 2007, 04:42:45 PM
Quote from: descartes on August 23, 2007, 10:04:06 PM
Quotemost Cavan players are putting in the effort but there's quite a few who aren't and that's clearly obvious. Lorcan Mulvey, Larry Reilly and Jason Reilly were just three players carrying varying amounts of heavy timber this year and looking very unfit, can you name anyone on the Armagh team you could say the same about? Just look at their physiques for God's sake!

Any of the o'rourkes??? ciaran McKeever, but in fairness can never be sure if he just has a chest like arnie or if he's carrying weight  ;D ;D ;D

interesting debate raging on, whisper it now, hoganstand.com/cavan about an intercounty junior team. little known fact out there is that cavans junior team was disbanded in 1969ish, the last year we won an ulster excluding 97 of course. a coincidence? methinks not. people always talk about no minor win since blah blah blah, but the lack of a junior team has been a far greater contributor to our bad run than the lack of a minor titles.

BH Man, cullivan has done his cruciate i believe? that fairly throws a spanner in your plans for the intermediate. think bailieborough are slowly gathering momentum, of course b'nagh and drumgoon seem favourites.

heres a few thoughts on the weekend...

think k'scourt are gonna scare the b'jasus out of mullahoran this weekend, and think the gaels are gonna limp past ramor by no more than 4 pts.

Gowna will struggle without pierson against chucullains, but reckon they'll still do it. think its an interesting weekend in cavan football this weekend, the big 3 are all going to have it tight enough.


wonder will keoghan be at any of the games or will he be spending his time shopping for a new back room team ??? ??? ???

Descartes

Cant say i agree at all with the Armagh comparisons,Theres absolutely none of them carrying any excess baggage,i would bet that if if the body fat percentages were taken off Ciaran McKeever and Martin o Rourke,they would be in the low teens.
dont think we could say the same for our boys.

Agree with you on the lack of a junior team,we need to start entering one,Gives guys not just ready for Senior intercounty a chance.

Cullivan is out for the rest of the year im afraid,its a terrible blow,because we all know how good he is,
would agree Ballinagh and Drumgoon are favourites  ;)

as for this weekends games

I fancy Kingscourt to shock Mullahoran,even though they are missing their key defender and should be future countyman Brendan Corcoran.Great defender.

Cavan Gaels by 10+ for me,
Ramor have alot of young talent,and in a year or two will be challenging for the senior championship,but i cant see them coping with the gaels this year.

Gowna by 3 or 4 for me aswell.


Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on August 26, 2007, 09:48:44 PM
I see Arva beat Shercock 1-10 to 0-9 in the junior championship. Thats a big big shock for me. Kill Beat Killinkere in the intermediate relegation too which is another shock result. Gowna beat cuchulains by 5, The Gaels beat Ramor by 7, Mullahoran drew with Kingscourt (as predicted on this very forum) Lacken hammered Drumalee in the senior relegation match. Drumgoon drew with Lavey in the intermediate QF, while B'Boro squeaked past Swad by 1 point in the intermediate backdoor. Thats all I got
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on August 27, 2007, 10:24:09 AM
Also as predicted we scraped by Cootehill by 5. Very poor first half from us with only two early goals (Niall McDermott and Paul Galligan) keeping us in the lead by the minimum at half-time. We didn't start much better after the break and then with 15 minutes to go tore through them landing a few nice scores, Terry Smith getting a third goal and leaving the difference at 7. Cootehill edged this down to 5 before the whistle.

Best for us was Niall and Podge Reilly, Niall McDermott and Damien McInerney.

Cootehill had John McCutcheon, Colm Smith and their full-forward McCarney(?) as their best.

Drumlane beat Laragh by 3 also.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on August 27, 2007, 10:27:09 AM
The intermediate semi-finals now looks like

Drumlane v (Drumgoon v Lavey)

Ballinagh v (Ballyhaise v Bailieborough)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
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Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on August 27, 2007, 02:32:42 PM
Quote from: Homer on August 27, 2007, 10:24:09 AM
Also as predicted we scraped by Cootehill by 5. Very poor first half from us with only two early goals (Niall McDermott and Paul Galligan) keeping us in the lead by the minimum at half-time. We didn't start much better after the break and then with 15 minutes to go tore through them landing a few nice scores, Terry Smith getting a third goal and leaving the difference at 7. Cootehill edged this down to 5 before the whistle.

Best for us was Niall and Podge Reilly, Niall McDermott and Damien McInerney.

Cootehill had John McCutcheon, Colm Smith and their full-forward McCarney(?) as their best.

Drumlane beat Laragh by 3 also.

wasnt in at the game due to training,but i heard Colm Smith was outstanding for Cootehill and that they dominated Midfield mostly.

also heard B'nagh were in a bit of disarray with choice of Goalkeepers etc, you had to put Declan Beard one of your best forwards in goals?
no Darragh McCarthy or other options?Bit suprising as id have though B'Nagh would have had a few goalkeeping prospects available from your great underage success.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: CC1 on August 27, 2007, 02:52:45 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on August 27, 2007, 02:32:42 PM
Quote from: Homer on August 27, 2007, 10:24:09 AM
Also as predicted we scraped by Cootehill by 5. Very poor first half from us with only two early goals (Niall McDermott and Paul Galligan) keeping us in the lead by the minimum at half-time. We didn't start much better after the break and then with 15 minutes to go tore through them landing a few nice scores, Terry Smith getting a third goal and leaving the difference at 7. Cootehill edged this down to 5 before the whistle.

Best for us was Niall and Podge Reilly, Niall McDermott and Damien McInerney.

Cootehill had John McCutcheon, Colm Smith and their full-forward McCarney(?) as their best.

Drumlane beat Laragh by 3 also.

wasnt in at the game due to training,but i heard Colm Smith was outstanding for Cootehill and that they dominated Midfield mostly.

also heard B'nagh were in a bit of disarray with choice of Goalkeepers etc, you had to put Declan Beard one of your best forwards in goals?
no Darragh McCarthy or other options?Bit suprising as id have though B'Nagh would have had a few goalkeeping prospects available from your great underage success.


I can transfer to them if they want. Have nothing else to do for another couple of months...  :-[
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on August 27, 2007, 02:55:15 PM
Quote from: CC1 on August 27, 2007, 02:52:45 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on August 27, 2007, 02:32:42 PM
Quote from: Homer on August 27, 2007, 10:24:09 AM
Also as predicted we scraped by Cootehill by 5. Very poor first half from us with only two early goals (Niall McDermott and Paul Galligan) keeping us in the lead by the minimum at half-time. We didn't start much better after the break and then with 15 minutes to go tore through them landing a few nice scores, Terry Smith getting a third goal and leaving the difference at 7. Cootehill edged this down to 5 before the whistle.

Best for us was Niall and Podge Reilly, Niall McDermott and Damien McInerney.

Cootehill had John McCutcheon, Colm Smith and their full-forward McCarney(?) as their best.

Drumlane beat Laragh by 3 also.

wasnt in at the game due to training,but i heard Colm Smith was outstanding for Cootehill and that they dominated Midfield mostly.

also heard B'nagh were in a bit of disarray with choice of Goalkeepers etc, you had to put Declan Beard one of your best forwards in goals?
no Darragh McCarthy or other options?Bit suprising as id have though B'Nagh would have had a few goalkeeping prospects available from your great underage success.


I can transfer to them if they want. Have nothing else to do for another couple of months...  :-[

fairly shocked you lost to Arva mate, what happened?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on August 27, 2007, 03:01:33 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on August 27, 2007, 02:32:42 PM
Quote from: Homer on August 27, 2007, 10:24:09 AM
Also as predicted we scraped by Cootehill by 5. Very poor first half from us with only two early goals (Niall McDermott and Paul Galligan) keeping us in the lead by the minimum at half-time. We didn't start much better after the break and then with 15 minutes to go tore through them landing a few nice scores, Terry Smith getting a third goal and leaving the difference at 7. Cootehill edged this down to 5 before the whistle.

Best for us was Niall and Podge Reilly, Niall McDermott and Damien McInerney.

Cootehill had John McCutcheon, Colm Smith and their full-forward McCarney(?) as their best.

Drumlane beat Laragh by 3 also.

wasnt in at the game due to training,but i heard Colm Smith was outstanding for Cootehill and that they dominated Midfield mostly.

also heard B'nagh were in a bit of disarray with choice of Goalkeepers etc, you had to put Declan Beard one of your best forwards in goals?
no Darragh McCarthy or other options?Bit suprising as id have though B'Nagh would have had a few goalkeeping prospects available from your great underage success.

  McCarthy was is goals but came off at half time injured and Beard who was only a sub went into goals. 
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on August 27, 2007, 03:54:12 PM
Darragh McCarthy decided to retire from senior football at the end of last year. He continued to play junior football this year.

Enda Culligan our would be first choice keeper this year, broke a bone in his hand and also his thumb in training during the week so Darragh resumed the position. Then at half-time in the match McCarthy had to come off with a suspected broken ankle (later turned out to be tissue damage). So Declan Beard was thrown into the fray. He was on the bench and has a decent kick off the ground so was an obvious choice.

We actually had four players go to hospital; Darragh McCarthy, Colin Gumley, Alan Durkin (both required a few stitches) and Paul Galligan (shoulder ligament damage). But it wasn't a dirty game.

Cootehill won the midfield battle 70-30 if not more. Cian McDermott looked very tired had an absolute nightmare. Moved him to CHF with Terry Smith coming out but Cootehill remained dominant.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: CC1 on August 27, 2007, 04:10:46 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on August 27, 2007, 02:55:15 PM
fairly shocked you lost to Arva mate, what happened?
Bad day at the office all round I'm afraid BHM, started off with three or four first teamers going out on the drink last Friday and Saturday night week ago. None of whom started. All would be fairly high profile players. That didn't help one bit. But the biggest thing of all was the destinct lack of hunger for the breaking ball. Arva won serious amounts until our lads realised that they were in bother, we got back into it and got back level.

Looked like we were going to sneak it then Emo gave Arva a free, ball dropped in between crossbar and post. I caught it, but while in flight my shoulder came off the post and an Arva player came in grabbed it out of my hands. I block his shot, the ball goes across the goal mouth. One of our players hoofs the ball in an attempt to get it away, it hits an Arva player on the way and cannoned into the net. The story of our day. Comedy of errors and lack of hunger in certain areas of the field cost us on the day. Simple as that. I'm just really really gutted, I thought we could do it this year but yet again we let ourselves down.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on August 27, 2007, 06:08:03 PM
so Arva,Shannon Gaels,Cornafean and Killeshandra are the last 4,

some good local derbies no doubt ending with a few punch ups and sendings off no doubt. :o

Homer,its a sign of a good team.playing badly and winning,if we get o ver Baileborough next Friday ,im guessing we have a date with Ballinagh in a fortnight in Breffini. :)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on August 27, 2007, 07:42:33 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on August 27, 2007, 06:08:03 PM
so Arva,Shannon Gaels,Cornafean and Killeshandra are the last 4,

some good local derbies no doubt ending with a few punch ups and sendings off no doubt. :o

Homer,its a sign of a good team.playing badly and winning,if we get o ver Baileborough next Friday ,im guessing we have a date with Ballinagh in a fortnight in Breffini. :)


Confident of getting over the famed Shamrocks on Friday night then, Haise Man?? I'm on my annual trip to the old home place this weekend, unfortunately will not be there till Saturday so will not make the game it seems, more the pity. Impression I get is that scoring is a bit of a problem for the East Cavan lads, certainly seems to be a bit of a blend of youth and experience there, will be surprised if they lie down on the job.


Anyway, on to a different topic:

newspaper group River Media is adding a 10th title to its stable.


The first edition of the Cavan Post set to land on newsagents' shelves tomorrow where it will challenge the dominance of the Anglo Celt, the local behemoth, writes Joe Brennan.

Backed by the 'Irish News' and investors Padraig O'Dwyer and Tim Collins, both of whom were involved in Irish local radio, River Media has already launched or acquired nine other newspapers.

The latest title consolidates its position as the fifth largest newspaper group in the country.

, with a circulation of over 120,000 newspapers a week.

Seán McCabe, former deputy editor of the Longford Leader, is joining the Cavan Post as editor, with former Cavan goalkeeper Paul O'Dowd the sports editor


Should be interesting, certainly with POD as sports editor we are not talking about "Celt Lite", all the better. Finally, cannot imagine too many of our county heroes lasting too long in Crokers white heat yesterday. Work to do
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on August 27, 2007, 09:55:06 PM
not confident AC

Baileborough are one of the most improved teams around in the county.
was impressed watching them against Swad.
It will be a battle.
i have confidence though that we will be up for it though.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Owenmoresider on August 27, 2007, 11:43:47 PM
Quote from: anglocelt39 on August 27, 2007, 07:42:33 PM
newspaper group River Media is adding a 10th title to its stable.


The first edition of the Cavan Post set to land on newsagents' shelves tomorrow where it will challenge the dominance of the Anglo Celt, the local behemoth, writes Joe Brennan.

Backed by the 'Irish News' and investors Padraig O'Dwyer and Tim Collins, both of whom were involved in Irish local radio, River Media has already launched or acquired nine other newspapers.

The latest title consolidates its position as the fifth largest newspaper group in the country.

, with a circulation of over 120,000 newspapers a week.

Seán McCabe, former deputy editor of the Longford Leader, is joining the Cavan Post as editor, with former Cavan goalkeeper Paul O'Dowd the sports editor


Should be interesting, certainly with POD as sports editor we are not talking about "Celt Lite", all the better. Finally, cannot imagine too many of our county heroes lasting too long in Crokers white heat yesterday. Work to do
Off topic, but this is getting ridiculous. This is the crowd that owns our local radio station (Ocean FM), and already they have similiar 'Posts' in Sligo, Leitrim, Donegal, Finn Valley, Letterkenny, Monaghan, Kildare (AFAIK), and obviously elsewhere too. You would at least think they would change the title name around a bit when they are at this. All have similiar layout and similiar quality - i.e. not all that great. Still it's one extra paper for areas which don't have any competition (like Cavan I guess), but in our case we had two and that was enough.

Anyway, back to topic, what stage of the Championship are Ballinagh at now Homer? Would have thought ye could get out of Intermediate when ye seem to be doing well enough in Division 1, compared to your lovely Senior southern neighbours. :P I presume they are safe from relegation now after that win?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on August 28, 2007, 10:41:21 AM
Quote from: Owenmoresider on August 27, 2007, 11:43:47 PM
Anyway, back to topic, what stage of the Championship are Ballinagh at now Homer? Would have thought ye could get out of Intermediate when ye seem to be doing well enough in Division 1, compared to your lovely Senior southern neighbours. :P I presume they are safe from relegation now after that win?

In the semi-finals now OMS, but this is all to familiar territory for us. Its been a really frustrating past few years as theres a young team there that could really benefit from Senior Championship football and possibly someday come to challenge at that level. Its a fairly open championship this year too with all six teams remaining, well equipped to bring it home on their day.

Yeah Lacken are indeed safe after annihilating Drumalee at the weekend. Trevor Crowe played full-forward with a broken bone in his foot. Last week the the doc' in the hospital explained to Trevor that he would need a cast, Trevor then explained to him how much he disliked Drumalee.

You from / have family in Lacken OMS?



Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on August 28, 2007, 11:23:13 AM
Quote from: Homer on August 28, 2007, 10:41:21 AM
Trevor Crowe played full-forward with a broken bone in his foot. Last week the the doc' in the hospital explained to Trevor that he would need a cast, Trevor then explained to him how much he disliked Drumalee.

;D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Owenmoresider on August 28, 2007, 09:31:28 PM
Quote from: Homer on August 28, 2007, 10:41:21 AM
You from / have family in Lacken OMS?
No, just know a few lads from there through college, who were on their U21-winning team a few years back (when ye won the B, and they went off and won the A title!). Know one or two Ballinagh lads as well. Had good craic with them during the college days.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on August 31, 2007, 10:31:56 AM
The Mullahoran - Kingscourt game has been called off this weekend due to the death of Dermot Sheridans father. RIP.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on August 31, 2007, 03:01:49 PM
What is the current state of play about the manager?  Who could we get or who woud we  want?  Good thread on the main board>
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on August 31, 2007, 03:15:01 PM
Ideally, Brian McIver but I doubt he'll be interested. BHM mentioned Charlie Mulgrew who is a more realistic option.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on September 01, 2007, 05:55:58 PM
Congratulations to Brendan Sweeney (Ballymachugh) who will be the 4th official at the Hurling AI tomorrow.  Should this not be on the Hurling Thread?

Brendan was a corner back on the Ulster winning U21 team and I would think the last Cavan team to take part in an All Ireland final in 1988, where we lost to Offaly in Longford.  Fair play to him.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: descartes on September 02, 2007, 01:14:59 AM
QuoteCongratulations to Brendan Sweeney (Ballymachugh) who will be the 4th official at the Hurling AI tomorrow.  Should this not be on the Hurling Thread?

Brendan was a corner back on the Ulster winning U21 team and I would think the last Cavan team to take part in an All Ireland final in 1988, where we lost to Offaly in Longford.  Fair play to him.

what about the u21 team of 1996? but yeah, fair play to him anyway. its a big day for everyone involved tomorrow. hope limerick do it. just heard earlier that lavey and drumgoon drew yet again tonight. 2-10 to 1-13 AET. drumgoon were apparently winning easily at half time by 7 or 8 pts but conceded a bad goal and needed a wonder pt from keith fannin to force extra time. They were winning again by 4 pts in added time but conceded another sloppy goal. heard all this from a drung man so reckon its an unbiased enough account of the match. he said that for lavey joey jordan, darren smith, and Paul brady played well, and for drumgoon the Hannons, Edward jackson and Michael McDonald were all decent.

the rumour out is that pierson is still hamstrung and will miss the crosserlough gowna match tomorrow. Even still i'd Gowna to win, but not by much.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on September 02, 2007, 10:31:17 AM
Killeshandra beat Munchies by 5 points last night too, to put them into the semi finals. That means the 3 teams from the Killeshandra parish are in the junior champ semis. I wonder has that happened before with any parish in one of the championships?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: descartes on September 02, 2007, 02:44:33 PM
Gowna beat crosserlough by 4 pts today, 1-09 to 0-08. Heard McCabe was very good. Pierson played but looked out of shape.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on September 02, 2007, 04:11:27 PM
McCabe has been Brilliant for Gowna in every game this year,

Player of the championship and its not even close.

Myles
so Killeshandra,Cornafean and Arva are semi finalists who is the last semi finalist Shannon Gaels?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on September 02, 2007, 04:45:19 PM
Quote from: descartes on September 02, 2007, 01:14:59 AM
QuoteBrendan was a corner back on the Ulster winning U21 team and I would think the last Cavan team to take part in an All Ireland final in 1988, where we lost to Offaly in Longford.  Fair play to him.

what about the u21 team of 1996?

Actually lads (one for the pub quiz here) the last Cavan team to win an All Ireland was 2007. That honor going to Paul Brady and Micheal Finnegan in the mens doubles handball finals in May.

Belturbet beat Lacken in the league last night. Big shmozzle before half-time saw Joe Crowe getting the line with bro' Trevor and Gary McGahern following suit before the finish. Its between Lacken, Ballyhaise, Kingscourt and Drumalane for relegation now.

Good luck tonight BallyhaiseMan, I shall be watching from the wings. Break a leg  :D.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on September 02, 2007, 05:04:27 PM
Quote from: Homer on September 02, 2007, 04:45:19 PM
Quote from: descartes on September 02, 2007, 01:14:59 AM
QuoteBrendan was a corner back on the Ulster winning U21 team and I would think the last Cavan team to take part in an All Ireland final in 1988, where we lost to Offaly in Longford.  Fair play to him.

what about the u21 team of 1996?

Actually lads (one for the pub quiz here) the last Cavan team to win an All Ireland was 2007. That honor going to Paul Brady and Micheal Finnegan in the mens doubles handball finals in May.

Belturbet beat Lacken in the league last night. Big shmozzle before half-time saw Joe Crowe getting the line with bro' Trevor and Gary McGahern following suit before the finish. Its between Lacken, Ballyhaise, Kingscourt and Drumalane for relegation now.

Good luck tonight BallyhaiseMan, I shall be watching from the wings. Break a leg  :D.

thanks Homer ;D
hear Baileborough have Charlie Clarke and Roy Brennan back for the game tnite aswell,bringing all the big guns out ;)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on September 02, 2007, 08:59:51 PM
Haise man, just back from the annual visit to the home place last night, hope you played a blinder and got bet by a point. Impression I got was that the Shamrocks felt they were slowly getting their act together and were up for the game, were fancying their chances particularly with Cullivan out of action. Didn't hear anytyhing about Roy or the Banker being back in action. Would be very surprised re. Charlie, since I thought he had well and truly chucked it in. In any event, there are enought good young fellas who will get more peed off if that sort of stuff sharts happening again. Look forward to your report either way.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on September 02, 2007, 09:37:36 PM
well what a fuckin shambles >:(

Baileborough won 2-04 to 0-05 and deservedly so.

we were absolutely terrible,shamrocks were just a bit better.

for us,
Barry Lynch was good

Barry Kelly was also good in the half backs,

Barry McCrudden caught a fair few balls and Stephen Smith alongside him score 0-4 out of our pitful taly of 0-5.

our forwards,one of which was me,(i was absolutely useless)were terrible.

we are a good team on paper,with lots of lads who have been on county under 21's and senior panels,but we just cant seem to produce it when it counts.

for Shamrocks,

Neil Donnelan good at full back,but went off injured.
David Rooney very good at CHB,
Finbar Clarke at midfield good.
Dessie Reily outstanding at wing forward,
Adrian Lambe very good at Centre Forward,
Andrew Coleman very good in the full forward line.

No Complaints,they were the better team,
hate that p**k of a manager Vincent Kelly though,Big headed c**t.
Hope Ballinagh annihilate them then rub it in next week.
im sick to be honest and will take a hiatus from the board for a few days.

Homer if im not on before next week,best of luck to Ballinagh and hope you now go on and win it.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: shotstopper1 on September 03, 2007, 10:00:36 AM
QuoteStephen Smith alongside him score 0-4 out of our pitful taly of 0-5.

I think you'll find that Stephen Smith scored all 5 points 2 from play.Ballyhaise achilles heel down through the years seems to be a major lack of scoring forwards,was told that last year their highest scorer from play was James Brady a 37/38 year old who played most of his career as a back!!Youse may bring back big Gerry :)
Bailieborough were by far the better team but once again their lack of a scoring forward will be their downfall.They were also easily capable of keeping Ballyhaise at bay even after losing their fullback early in the second half through injury and playiny the last 10/15 minutes with 14 men (Lambe got the line 2 yellows).P Byrd was introduced early in the first half for BB and scored a great point from play from about 50 yards out on the stand side, he also got their second goal late on.All in all though it was a dreadful game with ball being given away too easily by both sides and the shooting (as the scoreline suggests) pathetic.BB will have to up their game by 200%,  on this performance, if they intend troubling Ballinagh.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Maximus Marillius on September 03, 2007, 10:17:28 AM
Haise...so yer out of the championship...guess what, were still in it :P
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: descartes on September 03, 2007, 11:08:29 AM
B'boro looked the better team yesterday, the haise were up 4 pts to 1 at one stage in the first half. i thought g sheridan and s cooney were exceptional for b'boro. they carried the ball and broke tackles repeatedly. B'haise played like they had no game plan. they moved the ball quick but never engineered clear cut chances. And when they had the spare man everyone should have been bombing forward on overlaps but players would pass and stop running, not going for the return. B'boro are very strong defensively, 5 pts conceded last night, 1-07 against swad, 1-08 against bailinagh, 10 pts against redhills. i know this is probably a bizzare comparisson to make but they reminded me of chelsea. Not great to watch but methodical and well drilled!!!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on September 04, 2007, 11:32:57 AM
Commiserations BallyhaiseMan it was just one of those days when nobody turns up, we've had plenty of them. Cullivan was a huge loss not only as an excellent footballer but as one of the reliable heads that produces without fail.

Cheers for the well wishes also.

The shamrocks will be a very tough nut to crack with all this momentum they've built up. Down to the wire I'd say.

Right lads back to some county discussion. The Chicago 3 are back, so have we cooled down or is there no room in the inn?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: shotstopper1 on September 04, 2007, 12:14:38 PM
A bit of history repeating itself on the Baileborough v Ballyhaise game, as was said Ballyhaise the hot favourites were 4 to 1 up at one stage and subsequently only scored another point for the rest of the game. Coincidently in 1981? Bailieboro played Ballyhaise in the Senior Championship Semi Final , where Ballyhaise were once again hot favourites,Ballyhaise proceded to go 5 points to 1 up early on, the final score Bailieboro 8 Ballyhaise 6.

QuoteThe Chicago 3 are back, so have we cooled down or is there no room in the inn?

See in the Cavan Post they not only won the divisional title with St Brendans but they've also won the NACB title.By the state of this years championship, so far, I'd say there's plenty of room in the inn!!


Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Blue06 on September 04, 2007, 01:30:49 PM
A bit of history repeating itself on the Baileborough v Ballyhaise game, as was said Ballyhaise the hot favourites were 4 to 1 up at one stage and subsequently only scored another point for the rest of the game. Coincidently in 1981? Bailieboro played Ballyhaise in the Senior Championship Semi Final , where Ballyhaise were once again hot favourites,Ballyhaise proceded to go 5 points to 1 up early on, the final score Bailieboro 8 Ballyhaise 6.

That was probably '82 as Kingscourt & Drumalee played in the '81 final.  I think Bailieboro were only a Div 2 team at the time also.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on September 04, 2007, 05:14:30 PM
No Complaints,they were the better team,
hate that p**k of a manager Vincent Kelly though,Big headed c**t.
Hope Ballinagh annihilate them then rub it in next week.
im sick to be honest and will take a hiatus from the board for a few days.


I feel you pain Haise man, scant consolation to know you only have to listen to fab Vinnie once every so often, the Shamrocks lads have that privilege three times a week.

But seriously, the Shamrocks have been down on their arse for the last number of years which should never have happened. Nobody wanted to touch the job with a barge pole, particularly this year so fair dues to Kelly he took it on. For all his faults he brings non-stop energy and enthusiasm to the table and this has had a positive impact. Even when the league results were going poorly earlier in the year there was some optimism that the corner would be turned and it is being, slowly. A few old heads still around, a few good lads back from injuries/travel (Rooney, Donnellan) and last but not least youth is being given it's head. Good to see
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on September 04, 2007, 07:51:22 PM
Quote from: Homer on September 04, 2007, 11:32:57 AM
Right lads back to some county discussion. The Chicago 3 are back, so have we cooled down or is there no room in the inn?

No room at the Inn as far as I'm concerned. About the only thing I can say I agree with Keoghan on!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: descartes on September 05, 2007, 02:01:52 PM
i love these quite days when nothing is happening on the board.  ??? BHMan wasn't joking about his hiatus....  :D


QuotePosted by: mylestheslasher 
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Quote from: Homer on September 04, 2007, 11:32:57 AM
Right lads back to some county discussion. The Chicago 3 are back, so have we cooled down or is there no room in the inn?


No room at the Inn as far as I'm concerned. About the only thing I can say I agree with Keoghan on!

let me play devils advocat here for a minute... Think a county the size of cavans can't afford to dismiss its talent, Johnston, Gunner, Cahill, Gaynor, Brides(who has been exceptional for Plunketts in dublin this year), when does the carnage stop.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Handball Ace on September 05, 2007, 07:23:45 PM
Anyone notice any players who HAVEN'T been tried before in the championships (BH Man, please don't list 50 has-beens and never will be's plrease!!!)

Any B'boro? Killeshandra?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on September 05, 2007, 11:52:24 PM
Just a couple for now.

Bailieborough

David 'Rooster' Rooney is well worth a run with the county, if he stays in the country. He was involved with the county u21s a few years ago and seemed to show a some promise. He spent the last 2-3 years in New York playing for Cavan and also represented the New York team while out there. Unfortunately I believe he's planning on skipping off to the land of Oz sometime in the future.

Neil Donnelan also looked a very decent prospect at full-back against Ballyhaise the other night. Can't say I noticed him much in our encounter last month but must admit I've the fingers crossed that the knock he picked up at the weekend might see him absent Sunday week.

Drumgoon

Micheal McDonald has impressed me a lot in the last year and looks to have developed from a limited lanky lump into a decent footballer. If we can get him introduced to inter-county standard we could really hone a fine midfielder out of him.

Cavan Gaels

Geroid Collins a bit smaller than we'd like he has the heart on the sleeve characteristic that we really need in the panel. Always excelled at underage for the county and  I believe Coleman gave him a run in a few senior challenge matches. Took a year out of football last year due to travel / injury and may not be yet back to his best.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on September 06, 2007, 10:31:15 PM
Quote from: Handball Ace on September 05, 2007, 07:23:45 PM
Anyone notice any players who HAVEN'T been tried before in the championships (BH Man, please don't list 50 has-beens and never will be's plrease!!!)

Any B'boro? Killeshandra?

Handball ace  >:(  :D

anyway,
agree with the names Homer has given,

im wondering about the position of The Coach of the Cavan team manager,
anyone see any way,Paul Grimley might be brought back,or has that bridge been burned?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on September 07, 2007, 10:42:09 AM
Welcome back Ballyhaise man, the thread is all the worse for your temporary absence. Looks like the Shamrocks wound you up a bit on Sunday night (or at least Kelly and Donnellan), tell us more? Neil and Andy Coleman would nearly be the last guys to represent the club at county minor level (up until this year at any rate). From what I know of Donnellan he would be a good, hardy, combative type of chap. The big brudder played for the county in the mid-90's and was no slouch. Took a year out travelling and back to the fold. Why are you keen to see him miss the semi-final?

there is probably a bit of an issue with getting some of the names to make the necessary committment to the County panel, apart altogether from whether they have the ability or  not.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on September 07, 2007, 11:37:16 AM
Quote from: anglocelt39 on September 07, 2007, 10:42:09 AM
Why are you keen to see him miss the semi-final?

Possibly conveyed myself incorrectly there. What I meant was that his performance on Sunday night was impressive enough that a Ballinagh man like myself might prefer to take on Bailieborough without his like, not so much that I'm immorally glad he's injured.

Can't see Grimley returning or being welcomed back by the county board. Unless the players express their willingness for him to return, but I haven't heard anything that would suggest they would.

One more player that should get a run with the seniors next year is Alan Clarke of Kingscourt. Was out most of this year due to injury. A very strong and smart footballer, would be excellent addition.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on September 07, 2007, 12:42:22 PM
Sorry Homer, had not woken up on that one, thought it was a different poster. Anyway, looks like ye are hot favourites on weekend.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on September 07, 2007, 11:30:14 PM
Quote from: anglocelt39 on September 07, 2007, 12:42:22 PM
Sorry Homer, had not woken up on that one, thought it was a different poster. Anyway, looks like ye are hot favourites on weekend.

No worries ac39, wasn't just sure if it was aimed at me either but thought I should clarify just in case.

I'd admit we're favorites next weekend but definitely not hot favorites. Lone Shark would be wise to keep the odds on the short side for Bailieborough.

Sad day for cavan4ever. Drung were relegated tonight  :o. Beaten by Killinkere and now find themselves playing junior football next year.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on September 08, 2007, 08:54:57 PM
Mullahoran beat Kingscourt by four points, Kingscourt and numerous chances at the death including an effort of the crossbar.

Third time lucky for Lavey as they defeated Intermediate favorites Drumgoon again by four points. Leaves it very wide open now.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: CC1 on September 10, 2007, 08:47:51 AM
I see Killeshandra are now in the junior final. Puts into perspective what we might have achieved this year...  :-[

If they win, which I think they will, that will mean that we have beaten the Junior champions in the championship for two years running yet fail to do it ourselves. Makes me think that maybe we would be better off going the scenic route... If we had done we wouldn't have had to deal with this whole "Bulmers 5" situation, and could have built up a bit of momentum coming up to the quarters. Any thoughts?

Yes, yes I am still feeling sorry for myself...  ;D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on September 10, 2007, 10:54:37 AM
Quote from: CC1 on September 10, 2007, 08:47:51 AM
I see Killeshandra are now in the junior final. Puts into perspective what we might have achieved this year...  :-[

If they win, which I think they will, that will mean that we have beaten the Junior champions in the championship for two years running yet fail to do it ourselves. Makes me think that maybe we would be better off going the scenic route... If we had done we wouldn't have had to deal with this whole "Bulmers 5" situation, and could have built up a bit of momentum coming up to the quarters. Any thoughts?

Yes, yes I am still feeling sorry for myself...  ;D

It was a great win for the Leaguers yesterday against the age old rivals Cornafaen. I think, barring a serious bout of complacency, they should be too good for Shannon Gaels. As regards to potential county players from Killeshandra - I would suggest the following...

Potential Call Ups for next yrs McKenna Cup..

Austin Fitzpatrick - Austin is 20, big strong lad. Can play Ctr back or Ctr forward. Was once on minor panel but wasn't that bothered about it. I think he is more mature now and might just be able for the commitment.
Colm Duffy - Colm is 25 I think. He is a big lad who was away travelling last year. Was an excellent FB but has recently been playing at midfield.

Future Call up's 2 yrs away

Declan McKiernan - Excellent footballer but needs to bulk up a bit - would be a crime to throw him in to early. He is a creative scoring midfielder/Ctr Forward. Would give 100% commitment to the county I reckon. A County minor again this yr.
Thomais Reilly - Big strong lad and a county minor again this yr.
Daragh Tighe - Tenacious Back, will probably make county minors this yr.

It is hard to know how these lads would cope with the step up in class as all we are use to seeing them against are junior teams. I'd like to see them get a chance though.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Hollow Man on September 10, 2007, 05:12:11 PM
Colm Duffy is 23 this year

I'm 99% sure Declan McKiernan isn't minor next year agin, sure he's going into second eyar in college

Duffy was class underage but had a bad knee and wasn't that quick as far as I can remember

McKiernan looks like he will be a county player in a year or two, definitely

I'd say Shannon Gaels have some county standard players, but the clubs "way out west" don't usualy get noticed
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on September 11, 2007, 11:38:14 AM
Quote from: Homer on September 07, 2007, 11:30:14 PM
Quote from: anglocelt39 on September 07, 2007, 12:42:22 PM
Sorry Homer, had not woken up on that one, thought it was a different poster. Anyway, looks like ye are hot favourites on weekend.

Sad day for cavan4ever. Drung were relegated tonight  :o. Beaten by Killinkere and now find themselves playing junior football next year.

Didn't get to the game but im not suprised and the team manager has a lot to answer for.    Drumlane who we drew with and then lost replay to are in the semi-final and i wouldn't rate them any better than us.  It won't be easy to get out of Junior either as CC1 knows all to well.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on September 11, 2007, 02:13:47 PM
Ridiculous Drung getting relegated from Intermediate,Players should have been far too good to get beaten by some of the teams they did.
who is the manager C4ever?
i could have managed Drung and not got them relegated FFS.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on September 11, 2007, 02:32:05 PM
One of Keoghans side kicks i reckon u kno BHman.  He hasn't a clue how to manage a team, he is a good trainer but that is all he should be doing.  He lost us at least one intermediate final and now he has gotten us relegated.  He is way to slow to make changes, pick's players who are playing poor and leaves them on all the game even though they might not get a touch of the ball (which im told happened the other evening) .  One of the players told me that the best way to get on the team is to not turn up to training for a few weeks.  Can't blame him for everything though players away on holidays at vital times had a lot to do with it aswell.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Kentucky Blue on September 11, 2007, 02:41:11 PM
Greetings, just wondering if anyone could give me a brief summary about how cavan gaels are going this year? and their prospects for the championship?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on September 11, 2007, 05:08:35 PM
ah him,

it will be a struggle in Junior next year,but if all your lads put in the effort,id imagine you would be strong favourites.

Kentucky Blue

welcome to the board.

Cavan Gaels are as usual flying this year,

beat Gowna after a replay in first round, then beat Ramor convincingly

now Play Belturbet in the semi final,anything other than a Gaels win would be the biggest shock in the history of Cavan Football.

Then they play the winners of Gowna/Mullahoran in the final,
that in contrast will be a dogfight for the Gaels whoever they are playing.

They have been flying in the leage as well,Giving out some awful trashings,
To my club earlier this year aswell im afraid  :-[
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Kentucky Blue on September 11, 2007, 05:27:08 PM
Thanks BallyhaiseMan, you're a gentleman. All questions answered and beyond!   :)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on September 13, 2007, 01:42:52 PM
I see Cavan have a new assistant Manager some Sheridan fella from Tyrone.  I wonder does he know what he's getting himself into..
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on September 13, 2007, 01:47:27 PM
Cavan Co. Board appoint new senior team trainer and coach
12 September 2007

In recent days the Cavan Co. Board has announced the appointment of a new senior county team trainer and coach to succeed Paul Grimley. The 'new man' is Conal Sheridan, a 34 year-old PE teacher, and a member of the St. Enda's club in Co. Tyrone.

Conal who is a schoolteacher in Irvinestown in Co. Fermanagh is well-known in coaching and training circles throughout the province, and was assistant to Charlie Mulgrew the former Fermanagh county team boss over the last two years.

He has also been involved in coaching a number of clubs, and achieved success at this level with the Gweedore club in County Donegal, who won senior championship honours last season. He comes highly recommended to the Cavan Co. Board and a man with new ideas and fresh training methods could just what is needed as the Cavan team-management start their preparations for the new season in the weeks ahead.

http://www.hoganstand.com/Cavan/ArticleForm.aspx?ID=83252 (http://www.hoganstand.com/Cavan/ArticleForm.aspx?ID=83252)

Have to say I've never heard of him  ??? Maybe the Tyrone and Fermanagh boys might be able to shine some light on him.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Verbal Kint on September 13, 2007, 02:02:43 PM
Long time reader, first time poster!
Interesting to see the county board have gone for a relatively unknown man to replace Grimley!
Seems like Tyrone have a tradition in team trainers with Tally, McElkannon, Harte, McIver etc
Hopefully the new man can be as good as them!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on September 13, 2007, 02:15:52 PM
If I am reading the right the new man is more of a physical trainer than a manager/coach - is that right? If so, that leaved Keoghan as the "brains" of the operation which is a recipe for complete disaster. Anyone know any details on this new man and why he might have left Fermanagh?

Welcome aboard Verbal kint
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on September 13, 2007, 02:20:59 PM
Welcome to the board Kaiser  ;)

Have to say I was expecting a bigger name but can't fault the installation til I here more about him.

To me the reports come across, as if the decision did not involve Keoghan and was made almost entirely by the County Board.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Kentucky Blue on September 13, 2007, 03:56:27 PM
Anyone think Belturbet have a decent chance against Cavan gaels at the weekend?

I seen Loneshark put up odds on the game on another thread, the bookies certainly dont think so making the Gael's 1/4 shot's!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on September 13, 2007, 09:46:01 PM
Interesting that appointment. Does it not seem that Keogan is effectively emasculated by all this? At least Grimley was a partner of his own choosing and had recognisable credentials as a football man who could make decisions on the team and so on, this new fella seems very inexperienced and might not be able to do that. The thoughts of Keogan in sole control makes my eyes water.

We can only wait and see, at least he's in place in time to take in a few club matches to assess players and if we meet Tyrone at some level might help us finally get a win over them.  ;)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Hollow Man on September 15, 2007, 07:26:48 PM
Ballinagh by 4 and Gaynor sent off! Again!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Our Nail Loney on September 15, 2007, 08:07:56 PM
Was Ballinagh playing Cavan Gaels?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: KIDDO on September 15, 2007, 08:11:23 PM
Cavan Gaels ,defeated Belturbet, in the Cavan senior championship tonight
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on September 15, 2007, 11:04:59 PM
Quote from: Hollow Man on September 15, 2007, 07:26:48 PM
Ballinagh by 4 and Gaynor sent off! Again!

Thanks but no thanks for that, anyway as an East Cavan exile it's progress of a sort, hope we can kick on next year. Gaynor, well what can you say. Any windup involved, any ex county players involved in same??
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on September 17, 2007, 04:10:26 PM
Ah jaysus not again :o

can nobody control the man or what is it?

how many sendings off is that over the last 2 or 3 years.

was he wound up again or what?

Hear mad Eddie Reily is playing great stuff at midfield for Mullahoran.

Supposedly It was Grimleys doing that him and Gaynor werent on the panel this year(what my source on the county panel has told me)
With Grimley gone,
would love to see Eddie on the panel again.
at midfield with McCabe moving to Centre Half Forward.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on September 17, 2007, 11:21:17 PM
So its Ballinagh v Lavey in the Intermediate final 2007.

Just on the Gaynor sending off, it was two yellow cards and in my honest (if admittedly somewhat biased) opinion a bit harsh. However after receiving his marching orders Gaynor lost it and gave the ref some abuse that could well land him a suspension. ::) Thats 3 dismissals in two years BHM, can't remember exactly his stats for 2005 but the average would go up considerably.

Anyway back to the football. Ballinagh were first out of the blocks clocking up a 1-6 to 0-2 lead after fifteen minutes, Niall McDermott grabbing (1-1) with Gaynor causing havoc for the Bailieborough defense at full forward. Bailieborough moved Andy Coleman out to centre half affectively changing the game with Coleman showing some very impressive fielding. A 40-yard free from the shamrocks came back of the crossbar and Patrick Byrd was on hand to punch it home. Ballinagh going into the break with a 1-6 to 1-4 advantage.

Bailieborough continued their spell of dominance in the second half. Ten minutes in with Bailieborough trailing by the minimum Gaynor got the line and moments later they landed there second goal leaving the score Bailieborugh 2-5 Ballinagh 1-6.

This was the wake up call Ballinagh needed with every player upping their game. Points from David Finnegan and Niall McDermott restored Ballinagh's lead then a fast paced attack ended with Terry Smith grabbing his second goal in as many games. Bailieborough pulled one back but never looked like grabbing a third elusive goal and it ended Ballinagh 2-10 Bailieborough 2-6.

Andy Coleman really stood out for Bailieborough. As for ourselves Podge was excellent in defense but man of the match had to be Niall McDermott. Still has us scratching our heads as to why he didn't merit a position on the county minor team this year but he is underage next year and very much one to look out for.

In the corresponding semi-final Lavey defeated Drumlane in an exciting finish after a predominantly lacklustre affair Lavey 0-9 Drumlane 0-8. Finbar Jordan produced a fine display at CHB. Declan Murphy also came on after returning from a summer in the US, he landed an excellent point and looked very sharp.

Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on September 17, 2007, 04:10:26 PM
Supposedly It was Grimleys doing that him and Gaynor werent on the panel this year(what my source on the county panel has told me)
With Grimley gone,
would love to see Eddie on the panel again.
at midfield with McCabe moving to Centre Half Forward.

Would agree with Eddie's reintroduction to the panel but midfield BHM? Really can't see any hope of him cutting it there.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Handball Ace on September 18, 2007, 12:51:21 PM
Any opinions on the Cavan Voice?

Interesting to see Dermot McCabe writing a column...
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on September 19, 2007, 01:53:30 AM
Good strength in depth you have there Homer
being able to bring Paul Galligan and Damien McInerney off the bench.
id say id expect you to beat Lavey,but i said the same last year against Drumalee and jinxed yas  :D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: CC1 on September 19, 2007, 08:35:35 AM
I said the same, went down to see the first IFC final last year and it looked like Ballinagh did what we do every year... They just froze and didn't play at all, it resulted in one of the poorest matches I think I've ever seen in Breffni ending 8 points a piece.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Kentucky Blue on September 19, 2007, 01:53:31 PM
FAO Ballyhaise Man - Keep an eye out for 'Lesser Spotted Ulster' next Tuesday night (25th) with Joe Mahon.
You're lovely parish is in the limelight!  :)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on September 19, 2007, 02:31:16 PM
Quote from: Kentucky Blue on September 19, 2007, 01:53:31 PM
FAO Ballyhaise Man - Keep an eye out for 'Lesser Spotted Ulster' next Tuesday night (25th) with Joe Mahon.
You're lovely parish is in the limelight!  :)

Jayus, I didn't think we were recognised as being in Ulster on the UTV/BBC channels.  ;)

Anyway, back to the championship. I am still in the running for 3 out of 3 for the championship. I had Gaels for senior, Ballinagh for intermediate and Killeshandra for Junior. Pity I didn't put my money where my mouth is. Any word on whether Gaynor will miss the game for the verbal he gave the ref after being sent off last w'end?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on September 19, 2007, 04:37:11 PM
Quote from: Kentucky Blue on September 19, 2007, 01:53:31 PM
FAO Ballyhaise Man - Keep an eye out for 'Lesser Spotted Ulster' next Tuesday night (25th) with Joe Mahon.
You're lovely parish is in the limelight!  :)

thanks for that info KB,
il most definetely be watching out for it.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on September 19, 2007, 04:38:44 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on September 19, 2007, 02:31:16 PM
Quote from: Kentucky Blue on September 19, 2007, 01:53:31 PM
FAO Ballyhaise Man - Keep an eye out for 'Lesser Spotted Ulster' next Tuesday night (25th) with Joe Mahon.
You're lovely parish is in the limelight!  :)

Jayus, I didn't think we were recognised as being in Ulster on the UTV/BBC channels.  ;)

Anyway, back to the championship. I am still in the running for 3 out of 3 for the championship. I had Gaels for senior, Ballinagh for intermediate and Killeshandra for Junior. Pity I didn't put my money where my mouth is. Any word on whether Gaynor will miss the game for the verbal he gave the ref after being sent off last w'end?

think i tipped
Gaels,
Ourselves
Shercock.

so at best 1 out of 3 for me.

CC1
i know how you feel, we share the feat of not showing up in semi finals,quarter finals aswell.  :(
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: CC1 on September 20, 2007, 10:29:36 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on September 19, 2007, 04:38:44 PMCC1
i know how you feel, we share the feat of not showing up in semi finals,quarter finals aswell.  :(
Am all too aware of Ballyhaise doing the same. Both yourselves and Ballinagh on paper and normally in the league are consistantly good and playing at a good level. Its just the mentality that our players go out with I think... Whatever way you get rid of that I don't know...

Anyway, a nice handy one for us at the weekend... Killygarry!  ;D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on September 21, 2007, 04:07:32 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on September 19, 2007, 01:53:30 AM
Good strength in depth you have there Homer
being able to bring Paul Galligan and Damien McInerney off the bench.
id say id expect you to beat Lavey,but i said the same last year against Drumalee and jinxed yas  :D

We have been one of the very lucky clubs that seem to hold on to there players BallyhaiseMan. Galligan and McInerney were not started as they were not fully recovered from injury. McInerney has been having a torrid time with injury this summer and came back off after only ten minutes.

Quote from: mylestheslasher on September 19, 2007, 02:31:16 PM
Anyway, back to the championship. I am still in the running for 3 out of 3 for the championship. I had Gaels for senior, Ballinagh for intermediate and Killeshandra for Junior. Pity I didn't put my money where my mouth is. Any word on whether Gaynor will miss the game for the verbal he gave the ref after being sent off last w'end?

Gaynor's a free man for next weekend the referee didn't mention any verbals in his report, maybe he didn't say anything too bad... "Excuse me Mr. Referee but I cannot agree with that last decision of yours and feel the need to voice my disapproval in this manner"...... hmmmm well maybe not.

Think I tipped
Cavan Gaels
Ballinagh
Shannon Gaels

but like yourself Myles also didn't trouble the bookies with it, so Goan the Leaguers!

Anyway lads I think I've finally solved Cavan's problem of a strong and mobile player, meet Phil O'Reilly (http://www.rugbyworldcup.com/home/news/newsid=2010627.html).
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: North Longford on September 24, 2007, 10:42:37 AM
Was in at Gowna and Mullahoran yesterday. Not a particularly good game but Gowna deserved the win. There big players, McCabe, McKeever, Pierson all done well and thought Niall Madden was very good too.
Having seen a lot of crap referees in Longford I actually thought the guy yesterday totally took the biscuit. Inconsistency seemed to be his middle name. Don't know if it was just me or did he do his utmost to bring Mullahoran back into the game. What appeared to be oversteps in the case of a Gowna player on a least 4 or 5 occassions would be a free to a Mullahoran player in the exact same situation. Thought 2 or 3 of the decisions to blow Gowna lads for overcarying was shoking as a blind man could see they were being fouled. One instance with McCabe in particualar was crazy where in the midlle of a crowd and lumps being taken out of him he still manged to play the ball but was blown up for overcarrying anyway. When the dust settled Mcabe actually need treatment for his bout of overcarrying!!!
In the last 10 minutes every time Eddie Reilly got the ball he tried to run through fellas and managed to get a free every time.
Have to say I was very impressed with McCabe, both his performance and his restraint considering the abuse he took every time he caught a ball in the middle of the field. It was nice to see Eddie running 70 yards to wish him the best of luck with the penalty though!!
Really think Eddie gets madder every time I see him play and to be honest despite all the passion and ability he brings to the thing I think he probably would be a liabilty to a county team. He also seems to have to go for a score himself almost all the time. Very poor at bringing other players into the game.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: CC1 on September 24, 2007, 12:01:56 PM
Quote from: CC1 on September 20, 2007, 10:29:36 PMAnyway, a nice handy one for us at the weekend... Killygarry!  ;D
Another story of a game of two halves for us, played some great stuff in the first half and we were all over Killygarry. Only a couple of soft decisions from the referee let them come in a point behind us at 0-7, 0-6 to Shercock. We started the second half very well and got the first point with what could have been a goal, Killygarry replied with a point to leave one between the teams.

Then Martin Reilly who had been a thorn in our side for the whole game got the goal that more or less turned the game in Killygarry's favour. After that we were just chasing the game which we didn't want to happen because once we were chasing the game it made it easier for them to attack. They duely punished us with their quick breaks up the field and before we knew it they were 6 points up. We battled with them right until the end but in the last two minutes they got 1-2 to give them the 2-14 to 0-8 scoreline, not really a true reflection on the game as a whole (in truth 4-5 points would have been a better reflection I think).

Martin Reilly is a class act, he was the one player that caused us problems. However I think if Liam Og had been playing he wouldn't have had the same effect on the game. I must give our midfield of Michael O'Reilly, Mickey McEntee, 18 and 19 years of age respectively a special mention. They won nearly every ball that came near them and were totally on top for the whole game with the help of Brian Hamilton drifting in and out from the half forward line. If our forwards had been a little sharper we could have put it up to Killygarry in the second half, unfortunately they weren't.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on September 24, 2007, 12:46:47 PM
Quote from: North Longford on September 24, 2007, 10:42:37 AM
Really think Eddie gets madder every time I see him play and to be honest despite all the passion and ability he brings to the thing I think he probably would be a liabilty to a county team. He also seems to have to go for a score himself almost all the time. Very poor at bringing other players into the game.

He's not good enough for county team anyway NL agree strongly with what your saying he is very selfish and wants to do it all himself.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on September 24, 2007, 01:41:40 PM
A friend of mine from Mullahoran was telling me of rows in the camp during the week so I promptly took this information to the bookies for wee profit. Incidentally he mentioned most of the tension started from Eddie giving out that the ball was not being played into him enough in training.

The problem with Mullahoran is that the team is divided by two rivalry cliques, the Gunners & Co. and then everybody else (Eddie & Co), and sparks between the two are quite frequent.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on September 24, 2007, 01:58:51 PM
Quote from: Homer on September 24, 2007, 01:41:40 PM

The problem with Mullahoran is that the team is divided by two rivalry cliques, the Gunners & Co. and then everybody else (Eddie & Co), and sparks between the two are quite frequent.

Did anyone see Eddie wrestling with Paul the Gunner trying to get the ball off him when he was about to kick a free?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: North Longford on September 24, 2007, 02:59:42 PM
I know one of Eddie's sister fairly well although haven't seen her in a while. Shes a sound lady but even chats with her about football are fairly stirring and indications of the above 2 camps would have been noted as long as 2 years ago
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on September 26, 2007, 11:36:32 AM
It's hard to believe that the Intermediate and Junior Finals are on in a couple of days, this thread has gone the same way as the rest of Gaaboard.  There was a thread earlier saying that the lifespan of the board was up and i think it might be right.

So who's to you guys think going to win?  Id like to see Shannon Gaels win the Junior and i can see Lavey putting it up to Ballinagh.

Anyone know of what players are in with the county at the moment?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on September 26, 2007, 11:45:22 AM
Quote from: cavan4ever on September 26, 2007, 11:36:32 AM
It's hard to believe that the Intermediate and Junior Finals are on in a couple of days, this thread has gone the same way as the rest of Gaaboard.  There was a thread earlier saying that the lifespan of the board was up and i think it might be right.

So who's to you guys think going to win?  Id like to see Shannon Gaels win the Junior and i can see Lavey putting it up to Ballinagh.

Anyone know of what players are in with the county at the moment?


i'd like to see my own club Killeshandra win the junior (although I don't play with them anymore) and I reckon they will win it.
I'd like to see Ballinagh win intermediate as they've got some good county potential players that need to be playing at senior level. I think they will finally win it too.
I'd like to see Gowna win Senior to add a bit more competition into it but I reckon the Gaels will win it.


Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on September 26, 2007, 12:04:22 PM
I agree that the threads been quiet lately, I'd post more myself but theres only really one subject I'd be talking about and theres only so much Ballinagh crap ye can take  ;D.

Quote from: mylestheslasher on September 26, 2007, 11:45:22 AM
i'd like to see my own club Killeshandra win the junior (although I don't play with them anymore) and I reckon they will win it.
I'd like to see Ballinagh win intermediate as they've got some good county potential players that need to be playing at senior level. I think they will finally win it too.
I'd like to see Gowna win Senior to add a bit more competition into it but I reckon the Gaels will win it.

Would love to see Killeshandra and Gowna do the business also (keep it local), Killeshandra have a young team that would significantly benefit from a higher level of football. Unfortunately I think Gowna will lack a lot of the surprise package thunder that Mullahoran stole on them last year and just can't see them taking the Gaels.

As for the Intermediate....  (http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p261/BallinaghMan/fingerscrossed.gif)  (http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p261/BallinaghMan/fingerscrossed.gif)  (http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p261/BallinaghMan/fingerscrossed.gif)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on September 26, 2007, 03:59:40 PM
Shannon Gaels
and Ballinagh to win on Sunday.

anyway back to the real stuff  :P  :D
Ballyhaise V Cuchullains Division One league Game on Saturday? predictions   :D  :D  :D  :D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on September 27, 2007, 10:24:05 AM
Quote from: cavan4ever on September 26, 2007, 11:36:32 AM
It's hard to believe that the Intermediate and Junior Finals are on in a couple of days, this thread has gone the same way as the rest of Gaaboard.  There was a thread earlier saying that the lifespan of the board was up and i think it might be right.

So who's to you guys think going to win?  Id like to see Shannon Gaels win the Junior and i can see Lavey putting it up to Ballinagh.

Anyone know of what players are in with the county at the moment?


I wouldn't worry about the health of the board my child for these things are cyclical like the passing of the seasons. And verily, akin to the seasons themselves guided by Mother Nature's fair hand, there are the times of growth, blossom, bounty, harvest and yes, eventually cometh the winter and hibernation.

But spring cometh round every year and in the first flushes of rebirth hope doth spring eternal that Donal's sap will rise in tandem, in time for the Division 1 campaign and henceforth shall there be a new explosion of chatter and speculation on the Cavan GAA thread and great times of plenty shall ensue and we shall wonder why we ever thought the great lifeforce was dying out.

Any more wine over there?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on September 28, 2007, 11:26:53 AM
From Hogan Stand - Does anyone know anything about this man? Does he have any idea what he is up against?

'Cavan have underachieved' - Sheridan
28 September 2007


New Cavan senior football trainer Conal Sheridan believes that the Breffni blues have underachieved since last scooping the Ulster SFC title.

It's 1997 since the border county lifted the Anglo-Celt Cup and new boy Sheridan acknowledges that improvement is needed.

"Over the past decade or so Cavan have generally underachieved," said the Tyrone native. "My role will be a case of going in, looking at the strengths and seeing how we can improve upon them in terms of fitness and their ball skills.

"From my experience Cavan have always been a quick and pacy team which produces workmanlike displays.

"The job is to build on that because we can't afford to let things slip in next year's Division Two."

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on September 28, 2007, 04:02:10 PM
he forgot to put the words small before quick and pacy team,

Cavan team are back training individually i see with a Diet Regime,Cardio and weight training programme all given to each seperate member.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on September 28, 2007, 11:02:47 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on September 28, 2007, 04:02:10 PM

Cavan team are back training individually i see with a Diet Regime,Cardio and weight training programme all given to each seperate member.

I'd say Jason, Larry and Lorcan Mulvey are up to their oxters in nutritional research as they pore over the latest research on carbs, protein, fat burning and plyometrics.

Trusting some of our boys with individual programmes away from the squad is like putting kids into a sweet shop unsupervised and asking them not to touch anything.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on October 01, 2007, 10:36:59 AM
Just in case some of you didn't hear the results from yesterday. Killeshandra beat Shannon gaels 0-11 to 0-08 to win the junior championship. Ballinagh won the intermediate 1-07 to 0-09 against Lavey. Great day for the yellows!! I think in 5 years or so Killeshandra will be a senior team again, they have an impressive amount of young players coming through and when they fill out and get a bit cuter they will be a force to be reckoned with.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: shotstopper1 on October 01, 2007, 12:37:13 PM
Congrats to both Killeshandra and Ballinagh on winning their respective championships.Also to Dromard who won the Longford senior championship and who were celebrating in style in Arva.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on October 02, 2007, 10:43:02 AM
Has the Senior final been played yet?  I thought it was usually played at the end of September?

How will the champions do in the Ulster Club championship?  We talk about how crap the county team is, but when has a Cavan club won the Ulster Club Championship?  Does this not go hand in hand with County team success e.g. Armagh, Tyrone, Derry.

Comments
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Hollow Man on October 02, 2007, 12:48:00 PM
Is Keogan looking for the Chicago Three back????
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on October 02, 2007, 02:42:30 PM
Quote from: Denn Forever on October 02, 2007, 10:43:02 AM
How will the champions do in the Ulster Club championship?  We talk about how crap the county team is, but when has a Cavan club won the Ulster Club Championship?  Does this not go hand in hand with County team success e.g. Armagh, Tyrone, Derry.

Comments

I think it's this weekend DF.

From the point of view of Ulster club progress, you'd hope the Gaels come through as they'd seem better placed but then again there's the argument that winter football in the Ulster club gives a hard, physical team like Gowna a good chance of progress. This didn't come to pass with Mullahoran last year though.

Overall, I think the standard of senior club football in Cavan is lamentable. Managers are trying to ape national trends and are concentrating on negative tactics at the expense of basic skills, over burdening the players and compicating what should be a very simple game at times. It's such a broken record I know but you only hear it so often because it's true. I haven't seen as much of the SFC this year as I normally would but then again, I haven't wanted to nor haven't been too inspired to go along to the games. I'm in Dublin anyway. By all reports there's mostly been very poor games in the championship this year, following the trend of other seasons, but some of the locally based posters can tell us more on that one.

The Gaels should have enough expoerience of the Ulster club SFC to advance a bit but you'd only be hoping as opposed to expecting, which is what all levels of Cavan football club and county have been reduced to. The Derry/Tyrone champs and Crossmaglen would be comfortably able for the best team in Cavan nine times out of ten, possibly the Antrim and Down representatives as well. You'd only be hopeful against a team from Monaghan, Donegal, Fermanagh going on previous years' results in the club SFC.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Hollow Man on October 02, 2007, 05:11:10 PM
Quotethere's the argument that winter football in the Ulster club gives a hard, physical team like Gowna a good chance of progress.

Lazy sterotype there in my opinion.

Gowna aren't just the physically daunting force of old - Morris and a few Bradys are gone, and the Gaels are as hard and physical, even cynical,  as anyone.


Both sides have class forwards, and this game will be won or lost at midfield. Gowna will have to completely dominate here if they are to win because their backs aren't as good as the Gaels' six ie the Gaels forards will have the beating of Gowna's backs every single time, whereas it's possible that the likes of Chesty and Co will contain Pierson etc reasonably well unless they are bombarded.

Just my opinion...

I reckon Gowna by one, but don't rule out a draw
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: shotstopper1 on October 03, 2007, 12:47:24 PM
Ballyhaiseman,

What happened at the U14 final last night v BBoro.Heard a BBoro selector (ex Cavan Gaels) presuaded a neutral umpire (Cavan Gaels person) to change the refs (P Gilheany Swad) mind in allowing a last minute goal for BHaise which would've drew the game .Seemingly all hell broke loose afterwards.
Is this a true reflection on what happened? if so its no wonder Cavan Football is in such a sorry state.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on October 03, 2007, 03:12:52 PM
Quote from: Hollow Man on October 02, 2007, 05:11:10 PM
Quotethere's the argument that winter football in the Ulster club gives a hard, physical team like Gowna a good chance of progress.

Lazy sterotype there in my opinion.

Possibly, but only in the light of both Gowna and Mullahoran conforming to this stereotype and failing miserably to make an impact despite having a few bites at the Ulster club at this stage.

On the other side of the coin the the Crossmaglen, Bellaghy, Ballinderry contingent and other teams that have tended to do well over the last few years were certainly not lacking in the brawn department if memory serves which might indicate that in general a bit of muscle is a help rather than a hindrance, no? 

I agree that the Gaels have toughened up a bit over the last few years as well. TG4 showed them in the Ulster club a few years ago in Clones and they tried to mix it with a team from Derry and they got their arses handed back to them with interest. Thye might be better fit for it now alright but back then it was frankly embarrassing to look at. I think Chesty was sent off for anrking that day, anyone recall?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on October 03, 2007, 06:33:30 PM
Quote from: shotstopper1 on October 03, 2007, 12:47:24 PM
Ballyhaiseman,

What happened at the U14 final last night v BBoro.Heard a BBoro selector (ex Cavan Gaels) presuaded a neutral umpire (Cavan Gaels person) to change the refs (P Gilheany Swad) mind in allowing a last minute goal for BHaise which would've drew the game .Seemingly all hell broke loose afterwards.
Is this a true reflection on what happened? if so its no wonder Cavan Football is in such a sorry state.

true reflection shotstopper,
Cheated out of an Under 14 final by cowardly umpires and referees,and that bollox of a baileborough selector.
Ballyhaise Supporters obviously enraged went for the referee after the game,and a whole schmozzle erupted,
shame the referee and umpire in question and the Baileborough selector got out of it without getting a few thumps though.  >:(
I hope the club sent in objections over this bullshit,
On the other hand,no doubt there will be some Ballyhaise Club members called in on front of the county board sometime soon.
as you say no wonder Cavan football is in such a sorry state.

Belated congratulations to Homer over Ballinaghs win in the IFC,
and to Myles for Killeshandras Win in the JFC.
Both deserved.
Hope yer enjoying the celebrations Homer,probably still hungover ;D
and hope ye enjoyed it in exile Myles.  :)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Hollow Man on October 03, 2007, 07:38:33 PM
QuotePossibly, but only in the light of both Gowna and Mullahoran conforming to this stereotype and failing miserably to make an impact despite having a few bites at the Ulster club at this stage.

Gowna and Mullahoran are no "harder" or more "physical" than the Gaels, and it's lazy to label them as such just because the old sterotype has it that they are big hardy boyos and the town sides are lighter, flakier, whatever you're having yourself...

I would say all three are on an equal footing in terms of having a few strong footballers in their team who are limited skill-wise, but of course it suits the Gaels to play up to the abiding image of them as some sort of super slick side who beat the cynical country bumpkins by sheer falir.

The Gaels are as cynical as any of them...
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on October 03, 2007, 10:57:00 PM
I agree they are now alright. Only in relatively recent times though.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on October 05, 2007, 01:45:54 PM
(http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p261/BallinaghMan/cheers.gif)  lads and congrats to Killeshandra on their victory too, a great year for local saffrons (and an even better day for local publicans).

Was heart in mouth stuff at the death but we just about held on to grab that elusive title and more importantly the opportunity to rub shoulders with the big boys next year.

Heard the county boys met up during the week, Podge is back in there but I think the jury is still out on Gaynor (ye' mightn't recognise him now as he is sporting a much leaner haircut after taking the shears to it this week).

Good luck to Gowna and Cavan Gaels this weekend. I believe Gowna will put it up to them especially with Jimmy Galligan refereeing (likes to let the hard stuff go) but can't imagine the Gaels letting this one slip. Gaels by 4.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Our Nail Loney on October 07, 2007, 04:54:37 PM
How'd Gaels match going?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Hollow Man on October 07, 2007, 06:15:31 PM
Gaels by four

Gowna lost McCabe after 15 mins with a very serious looking ankle injury, unfortunate for them with Paddy Brady out as well

Gaels were the better team, Gowna couldn't handle Johnston at all

Lot of play acting and cocky shit as usual though
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on October 08, 2007, 04:38:21 PM
Quote from: Hollow Man on October 07, 2007, 06:15:31 PM
Gaels by four

Gowna lost McCabe after 15 mins with a very serious looking ankle injury, unfortunate for them with Paddy Brady out as well

Gaels were the better team, Gowna couldn't handle Johnston at all

Lot of play acting and cocky shit as usual though

Pierson was excellent yesterday for Gowna and I felt he fully deserved the MOM award. First time I've seen him play as well since the Meath game a couple of years ago. I recall some posts suggesting he may be excluded from the Cavan panel this year, I doubt this will be the case now.

On the other hand I can see Keoghan sticking to his guns on the Chicago 3 issue. He has already shown with Gaynor that he is a man of his principals(/stubborn  :P).

McCabe was carrying a back injury going into the match and I apparently the ankle injury occurred as a result of compensating for it, looked to be in a great deal of agony before going off.

There was a comical incident between Walsh and McCabe before his departure. Elliot was about to take a kick-out for the Gaels when Walsh ran over to the wing and stood on the sideline. McCabe followed him half-way before he realised what he was doing and began shouting out to Walsh "Come over and stand beside me like a man". Walsh didn't move but he was probably frozen with fear at this stage.

McKeever came into the game in the second half and like Pierson showed some excellent long lost form.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Kentucky Blue on October 08, 2007, 04:53:14 PM
Malachy O'Rourke certainly appears to have the Mida's touch, 3 championships in 3 different counties. Loup in 2003, Errigal Ciaran in 2006 and now Cavan Gaels in 2007!

some achievement!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: wobbller on October 08, 2007, 05:05:16 PM
 None in his own county 8)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on October 08, 2007, 11:22:50 PM
Quote from: Homer on October 08, 2007, 04:38:21 PM
Quote from: Hollow Man on October 07, 2007, 06:15:31 PM
Gaels by four

Gowna lost McCabe after 15 mins with a very serious looking ankle injury, unfortunate for them with Paddy Brady out as well

Gaels were the better team, Gowna couldn't handle Johnston at all

Lot of play acting and cocky shit as usual though

Pierson was excellent yesterday for Gowna and I felt he fully deserved the MOM award. First time I've seen him play as well since the Meath game a couple of years ago. I recall some posts suggesting he may be excluded from the Cavan panel this year, I doubt this will be the case now.

McCabe has had ankle trouble before - kept him off international rules team down in OZ a few years ago I think - so I'd be very much afeared he's out now for a while with the usual long grind back to fitness as well. It's a shame as he'd been on his longest injury-free run for a while and was playing good stuff by all accounts.

On Pierson, I think the question marks are over his attitude more so than his talent. I've heard it from alot of different people that he just isn't particularly arsed about playing for the county apart from when Coleman was there to get the best out of him and he got subbed alot last year - harshly sometimes - so I wouldn't say he's best buddies with Keogan either.

Another potential intercounty star to waste his talent in Cavan?

And a last word on Johnston - great player on his day but if he's not committed enough to stay with his county until the championship is over, Keogan is right to leave him outside the tent unless/until he can prove otherwise, along with the other two. This issue is actually bigger than merely three players pissing off, if they're let back in it will - yet again - send out the entirely wrong message that favoured/talented players are bigger than the county team and so desperately needed that no matter how they behave all will be overlooked if they'll only be so good as to line out for the team. This short termism has left us running to stand still the last 10 years and this is a good opportunity to send out a message that the team is bigger than all individuals and that only those there for the long haul and willing to put in the work are welcome on the squad from here on. Backing down would be a disiastrous move IMO.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Hollow Man on October 09, 2007, 11:39:17 AM
I think it is the manager who should be looking at himself, not the players.

Sending out the wrong message? Are you joking? This is Donal Keogan we're talking about - the man doesn't exactly command respect, or "send out the right message" in general.

Here's my take on Johnston:

Sean Johnston was 23 in August. He has, incredibly, played six championship campaigns for Cavan, which means six winters training, not drinking, sacrificing nights out, watching what he eats - putting his life on hold actually.

In 2006 his form was so good he was picked for the Ulster team, and this year he trained like an animal and lifted weights religiously to bulk up, only to be dropped for the replay against Down. He came off the bench to kick three points from play, but he was badly hurt I would imagine.

He then faced a choice - he could go to America for the first time (he hasn't had a chance before due to football), earn money to keep himself in college (he hasn't had time for a part time job because he has been on the Cavan team since he was a boy of 18 remember) or he could hang around to get mistreated by management again. What would you do?

Would you be the martyr who takes his medicine, hanging around to warm the bench while Cavan bomb out in the first round of the qualifiers and then heading back to college penniless again?

Or would you live in the real world?

The bottom line is that Johnston is the best forward in the county bar none, he's committed and he's a winner.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on October 09, 2007, 12:05:44 PM
My two cents on the issue would be to insure Johnston would only return if the other players expressed their willingness for his inclusion.

We only have to look at the Graham Geraghty incident last year to see the possible benefits of such a turn around. Battering a fellow team-mate sends out as much of a bad message as Johnston's stunt, yet his return was vital in the defeat of Tyrone.

On the other hand what's to suggest that come next summer Johnston wouldn't take the hump again and pull another Houdini? He was a great success over there and I'd imagine even more lucrative offers may be thrown his way.

Also if Johnston was that p**sed off with the set-up last year, has he even made himself available for selection this year?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on October 09, 2007, 01:21:17 PM
Quote from: Hollow Man on October 09, 2007, 11:39:17 AM
I think it is the manager who should be looking at himself, not the players.

Sending out the wrong message? Are you joking? This is Donal Keogan we're talking about - the man doesn't exactly command respect, or "send out the right message" in general.

Here's my take on Johnston:

Sean Johnston was 23 in August. He has, incredibly, played six championship campaigns for Cavan, which means six winters training, not drinking, sacrificing nights out, watching what he eats - putting his life on hold actually.

In 2006 his form was so good he was picked for the Ulster team, and this year he trained like an animal and lifted weights religiously to bulk up, only to be dropped for the replay against Down. He came off the bench to kick three points from play, but he was badly hurt I would imagine.

He then faced a choice - he could go to America for the first time (he hasn't had a chance before due to football), earn money to keep himself in college (he hasn't had time for a part time job because he has been on the Cavan team since he was a boy of 18 remember) or he could hang around to get mistreated by management again. What would you do?

Would you be the martyr who takes his medicine, hanging around to warm the bench while Cavan bomb out in the first round of the qualifiers and then heading back to college penniless again?

Or would you live in the real world?

The bottom line is that Johnston is the best forward in the county bar none, he's committed and he's a winner.

Sorry Hollow man. I wouldn't agree with the Poor Seanie Line. 1st - No one forced him to play for Cavan for the last 6 years. 2nd - He has an attitude problem, constantly shaking his fist at the crowd etc, wanting recognition of his greatness,  which tells me not to send too much pity his way. If he wanted to go to the US he should have planned it up front and declined to play for Cavan. He ended up taking someone elses place on the panel, f**king over his team mates and showing the followers of Cavan no loyalty at all. For me those 3 guys are out for next year with a possible review the following year. Lack of loyalty must be punished by any manager who wants to keep a good morale and team spirit in the camp otherwise the message is "anything goes". Agree that Keoghan is an idiot but even idiots can be right once in a while.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on October 09, 2007, 02:01:08 PM
Didn't gunner say at start of last year that he was going to concentrate on Handball and was quiting county football anyway. 
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on October 09, 2007, 02:08:00 PM
He said back in January/Febuary that it was going to be his final year playing county football and he was going to give it his all.  ::)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Hollow Man on October 09, 2007, 03:33:15 PM
Brady did give it his all in my opinion - he was shafted though and sometimes you have to take a stand.

I personally think the three lads were dead right - the set up is a joke, you had fellas overweight starting against Down and others who were clearly underperforming getting their place all year.

It's easy pontificating on a message board - put yourself in their place and then say that you would have hung around all summer to sit on the bench when there were fellas who clearly hadn't done the work starting?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on October 09, 2007, 04:18:00 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on October 09, 2007, 01:21:17 PM
Sorry Hollow man. I wouldn't agree with the Poor Seanie Line. 1st - No one forced him to play for Cavan for the last 6 years. 2nd - He has an attitude problem, constantly shaking his fist at the crowd etc, wanting recognition of his greatness,  which tells me not to send too much pity his way. If he wanted to go to the US he should have planned it up front and declined to play for Cavan. He ended up taking someone elses place on the panel, f**king over his team mates and showing the followers of Cavan no loyalty at all. For me those 3 guys are out for next year with a possible review the following year. Lack of loyalty must be punished by any manager who wants to keep a good morale and team spirit in the camp otherwise the message is "anything goes". Agree that Keoghan is an idiot but even idiots can be right once in a while.

Agree fully. Keogan is no Einstein but even a stopped clock is right twice a day.

I also agree Johnston is a very valuable player. But never to the extent that he be allowed call the shots over ANY manager, Keogan or not. Think about how Larry, Jason and countless others have been indulged, indulged and indulged again over the years because they're 'star' players and the short-term view has always been taken. Getting that league promotion, winning that first round Ulster tie has always been more important than taking a step back and asking: "What sort of culture and philosophy are we putting in place for the county team and what long term damage are we doing by carrying passengers and allowing the tail to wag the dog?" Alot of Cavan's problems are IMO due to the fact that players think the team owes them a living as opposed to knowing that they are servants of the team and only passing through in something that is much bigger than any individual.

Hollowman you say the set up is a joke. Your answer to the problem is to re-admit three players who abandoned their club and their county at the height of the season for a few dollars in USA and basically pubicly announce to the county that no matter what, good players always get their way? You speak about these players as if they have all lived like Trappist monks, are you sure about that? Have you also considered the countless indirect benefits players accrue simply because of their status as a county player, when it comes to jobs, lifestyle and other opportunities? It's not all give give and hard grind you know, you do get something back in return or else nobody would bother, would they?

Nobody forces Sean Johnston to play intercounty football. If it's stopping him getting a job etc. nobody will begrudge him quitting to look after himself. It's a voluntary thing on his part and we're glad to have him when he's fully there and committed to the cause but he cannot be there part-time or on his own terms. He's smart enough to know the duties and sacrifices that come with being a county player if he cannot meet those then thanks Sean, you will be missed certainly but off you go, Cavan needs 30 players busting a gut, not 22 with the other 8 getting special dispensations to cut corners just because of who they are. And if those players aren't immediately as good and results suffer then so be it, at the end of it all we'll have a proper environment in place where the good players of the future can prosper instead of the one at present which is getting us nowhere and won't either with flawed thinking like yours.

The message that if you're a good player, you can do what you like and still have a county jersey waiting for you regardless simply has to stop if we're to go anywhere in anything other than the short term. And yes, Keogan needs to take that stance not just with the abandon ship brigade but also with the others who stayed behind but hadn't trained or looked after themselves.

I call that living in the real world, if you're more concerned with short term gains then go ahead, but in due course you'll be back here talking about the set up being a joke and you won't even notice the irony.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Hollow Man on October 09, 2007, 04:34:38 PM
QuoteThink about how Larry, Jason and countless others have been indulged, indulged and indulged again over the years because they're 'star' players and the short-term view has always been taken

You're right. Johnston should have hung around and been a sub so, while both these fellas were starting ahead of him this summer.

That would have achieved a lot...


QuoteYou speak about these players as if they have all lived like Trappist monks, are you sure about that?

Yes. Johnston and Brady were two of the players that you definitely could have no doubt about in terms of fitness and whether or not they did the work. They are the best two best athletes on the panel, and they are both winners, which is why they took a stand.

I say fair play to them - we'll win f**k all without them.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on October 09, 2007, 05:02:36 PM
Yep that's why I said Keogan needs to sort out all the problem players not just the Chicago three, you might have missed that in your hurry to reply and show how smart you are.

And sure if he'd hung around to be a sub anyway, wouldn't it be the best way to shove it down Keogan's throat by coming on and doing great stuff like he did in replay against Down? He made his point that way and then pissed off. A real team player.

As for the boys being 'winners' and 'taking a stand'?  ;D

Wake up and smell the coffee will you. I think anyone can see they went off to make money as first priority and not to, ahem, 'take a stand,' like the great bastion of principle you're making Johnston out to be.

And well done on ignoring the rest of my post, I'd like to hear your thoughts on if you think indulging players is good for the joke set up or not? 
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Giveitlong on October 09, 2007, 05:49:45 PM
It's been a while, but I had to log back in and reacquaint myslef with the board having read this latest thread in the discussion.....Maniac...I salute you. 100% agree with you and extraordinarily well put sir.

He went to Chicago...he did the crime. He opted to stop rowing with his team mid row - and I'm afraid if you are trying to build something then that just doesn't fly.
So do the time. Heck - enjoy it Seanie....have a few pints..put on some more weight in the more traditional manner. However please keep your turn of speed though....it is electric and very tough to mark...legitemately.
While you're away - and I mean this in the nicest sense of the word...learn some humility..it's possible to have some whilst still being confident. Arrogance doesn't work for me, and it is not welcome in our association (nor are white boods or homeboy hairstyles but I think you're clear there) And finally learn to pass the ball a bit more...your ratio of wides to scores from play is still not Cooperesque. You should be aspiring to that type of performance level.

So one year of penance, but a year of learning so don't stagnate please. I think you went/go to DCU so you should be intelligent enough to understand that all of Cavanmaniac's points are fair enough and you can have no gripes.

We'll see you in around 18 months so and in the meantime best of luck in the Ulster Club campaign.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on October 09, 2007, 07:39:07 PM
Ah yes, the joys of man management. Geraghty kicks the shite out of his team mates and he ends up getting brought back into a panel by a switched on management and makes a contribution. Stephen Ireland on his 15k per week makes a fool of all and sundry and all is forgiven at club and international level. Numerous players from numerous counties are indulged in going on the round Europe or Oz trip during the league campaigns. So how do we handle the issue of Gaynor, Johnston, Cahill and Gunner (although the last seems to have made up his own mind). Do we take Maniacs High Moral ground, take the long term view and say total and unfettered loyalty to the cause is now required from 30 men good and true so good luck lads? While we're at it, do we also tell lads that turned up for first round championship games in the last two years in states of clear unfitness that their services are no longer required. Admirable sentiments, but at this rate we are really going to be starting from scratch again, don't think Keogan has that sort of time.

So lads, sorry I don't have the answers. Long term plans are fine, the fact is that at the moment we are, at best Joint Number 8 in Ulster Rankings and very few people would be willing to accept a three year total clean up and catch up period.

Dare we say that the manager is part of the problem? From my little connection with football at home any more it seems that the fellas not on the panel are as much a problem as those on it i.e. there are, by all accounts, many players who have no interest in going on the panel and I'm not sure the existing management set up is doing much to tempt these blokes in. Maniac, those were the days when lads were begging to be asked to wear the Cavan jersey, like the ass and cart, long gone.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Hollow Man on October 10, 2007, 11:54:44 AM

From what I know, the three lads who headed off are still on great terms with most of the rest of the panel - the general feeling is that they were dead right, incredible as that sounds.

I say fair play to them - we'll win f**k all without them. The lads made their point and got their money, Brady will go off and dominate handball, Jelly has just won a county SFC and will probably now win a Sigerson and Cavan supporters will huff and puff about commitment while their remaining players are out drinking and lining out way overweight.

Then, come next summer, Keogan will go cap in hand and ask them back.

Just wait and see.


Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on October 10, 2007, 12:42:30 PM
Quote from: anglocelt39 on October 09, 2007, 07:39:07 PM
Ah yes, the joys of man management. Geraghty kicks the shite out of his team mates and he ends up getting brought back into a panel by a switched on management and makes a contribution. Stephen Ireland on his 15k per week makes a fool of all and sundry and all is forgiven at club and international level. Numerous players from numerous counties are indulged in going on the round Europe or Oz trip during the league campaigns. So how do we handle the issue of Gaynor, Johnston, Cahill and Gunner (although the last seems to have made up his own mind). Do we take Maniacs High Moral ground, take the long term view and say total and unfettered loyalty to the cause is now required from 30 men good and true so good luck lads? While we're at it, do we also tell lads that turned up for first round championship games in the last two years in states of clear unfitness that their services are no longer required. Admirable sentiments, but at this rate we are really going to be starting from scratch again, don't think Keogan has that sort of time.

So lads, sorry I don't have the answers. Long term plans are fine, the fact is that at the moment we are, at best Joint Number 8 in Ulster Rankings and very few people would be willing to accept a three year total clean up and catch up period.

Dare we say that the manager is part of the problem? From my little connection with football at home any more it seems that the fellas not on the panel are as much a problem as those on it i.e. there are, by all accounts, many players who have no interest in going on the panel and I'm not sure the existing management set up is doing much to tempt these blokes in. Maniac, those were the days when lads were begging to be asked to wear the Cavan jersey, like the ass and cart, long gone.



ac39 I was looking forward to a post from you because we disgree often but you are respectful while you do it.

I agree about other players being indulged in other codes. In some cases I'd even condone it. But most examples that spring to mind like Stephen Ireland, Eric Cantona etc. concern one bad apple in an otherwise solid, sound and disciplined set up. That is simply not the case in Cavan where there are quite a few swinging the lead and the only way to get it cleared up - and get to a situation where maybe, just maybe, you might be able to carry one lad like Johnston - is indeed to start from scratch. We've been running about with one foot nailed to the floor from 1997 and where has it got us, and what are our longer-term prospects if it's allowed to continue. I'm like a broken record but at some stage we have to stop dreaming about the quick fix and take the pain of building for the long term only with guys who are switched on and fully focused. Gaelic football has become too professional and demanding to have lads shitehawking. It's a cruel commitment and no arguments from me there but if you want to be there you put it in, you know all about the demands beforehand, and if you can't do it, then stay away with the best wishes of all fans who understand the need to look after your career or family.

On the point of players travelling for a few months, this is generally done during the winter and done responsibly and maturely by arrangement with management and therefore nobody has a problem because it's all above board and in the open. And crucially, not at the height of the season and for the sake of a few quid either.

I think you're right also about lads not wanting to wear the shirt.

You offer this as the cause of our problems but I see it as the symptom.

There were plenty of lads aching for the shirt in 95-97 when the set up was clean, disciplined and players could see we were going places and there was a chance of glory. I doubt many that were called by wee Martin back then chose to stay off the panel. So if we clean things up again, realise that the current way just doesn't work and start from scratch, I see no reason why there woudn't be 30 guys willing to bust a gut in Cavan to bring the team places. And if it takes a few seasons - and progress can be quicker than you think - then won't we be better off? Will we honestly fare any better if we keep doing what we're doing now? The odd big victory maybe but nothing lasting, if that at all.

They can do it in Monaghan - and believe me, our Farney neighbours are a shining example to us Breffnis with our delusions of adequacy - using a former manager of ours getting them to peak fitness with total commitment. Are we not all men made of the same stuff this side of the border, or might it just be our attitude that's the difference?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on October 10, 2007, 08:46:39 PM
Johnston,Cahill should be brought back in my opinion.

Gunner has retired from intercounty football,

Gaynor deserves a trial back on the county team to see if he can keep his head.

Mad Eddie should also be brought back.

Maniac and Hollowman know far more about Cavan Football than Keoghan could ever know!!!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on October 10, 2007, 09:09:11 PM
The seniors were back in the gym last Friday I hear. Anyone know who got called up. I only new one I heard from home was Austin Fitzpatrick from Killeshandra. Will try and find out who else.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on October 10, 2007, 09:13:15 PM
Of course I'm respectful towards you Maniac, sure it beats having you rear up on me.

Is the existing management team now a bit of a joke, or put another way what other county is currently trying to head hunt DK into it's management setup.

If I was given a clean slate as of now I would:

1. Start with a new management team, don't even start to ask me who but I agree with previous poster that DK on his own could be an accident waiting to happen with a challenging league campaign coming up;

2. Say goodbye to a number of players-Larry and Jason have done their bit and fair play, but time to put the feet up. I'd also make a special case for Mulvey, if a junior club footballer has as little respect for himself and the county jersey as he showed against Down last May he deserves special treatment.

3. Declare an anmesty/clean slate for all other players on the understanding that it will be fully reviewed, and appropriate actions taken at the and of McKenna Cup campaign. Panel of 40 selected now for winter training program etc, and slackers cut from NFL panel at start of february regardless of who the f**k they are. I think an anmesty has to be declared because there are so many ways of offending in the Cavan set up at present-not training, going on the beer, pulling out of the panel and being cajaoled back in, fecking off to the USA, getting "lost" on the way to pre championship challenge matches, blatantly bullying other panel members etc. etc.

If somebody had the balls to carry this through we could be all the better. There are plenty of players around that can do a job for us in the right setup-Hannon, Dermot Sheridan, Podge, Gunner, Gaynor, Forde, McCabe, Flanagan, Cullivan, Lyng, Mckeever, Pierson, Johnston. What they need is to be shown a bit of direction and to know that no shite will be taken. Very easy said, not as easy done. There is enough football in the county to at least make us respectable again a la Louth of this year.

Not holding my breath but here's hoping.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on October 10, 2007, 09:36:17 PM
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Wouldn't disagree with a word of that.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on October 10, 2007, 11:23:35 PM
if there was to be a 30 man panel named,these players would be definities for me. 19 definites, other 11 spots up for grabs
Opinions?

Goalkeepers

James Reily( Drung)
Colm Anderson(Cuchullains)

Backs
Michael Hannon(Drumgoon)
Keith Fannin(Drumgoon)
Martin Cahill(Denn)
Ronan Flanagan(Castlerahan)
Padraig Reily(Ballinagh)
Anthony Forde(Cavan Gaels)
Jonathon Crowe(Crosserlough)
Anthony Gaynor(Ballinagh)
1.
2.
3.


Midfield
Dermot McCabe(Gowna)
Nicholas Walsh(Cavan Gaels)
1.
2.
3.
4.

Forwards
Mark McKeever(Gowna)
Sean Johnston(Cavan Gaels)
Michael Lyng(Cavan Gaels)
Sean Brady(Castlerahan)
Gerard Pierson(Gowna)
Ray Cullivan(Ballyhaise)
Eddie Reily(Mullahoran)
1.
2.
3.
4.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on October 11, 2007, 08:20:50 AM
I heard that James Reilly and Colm Anderson were gone off the panel.  Laragh and Lavey Goalkeepers brought in.  And more worrying that Pierson was not to be asked back. 
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on October 11, 2007, 12:01:15 PM
Quote from: cavan4ever on October 11, 2007, 08:20:50 AM
I heard that James Reilly and Colm Anderson were gone off the panel.  Laragh and Lavey Goalkeepers brought in.  And more worrying that Pierson was not to be asked back. 

James Caroloan of Lavey? a good goalkeeper

Brian Carolan of Laragh also good,

But Miller would be a huge miss.

also heard the info about Pierson not being asked back,
can we really do without probably our most naturally talented forward.?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on October 11, 2007, 12:18:09 PM
Pierson was quite poor last year and if the stories are true then it was as a result of his half arsed approach. IF this is the case then I would support him being dropped. Pierson, Johnstone, Cahill etc are all the same thing really.  The county team is at rock bottom, we are putting up with shit that other counties won't. We need to send out a clear message that says "You will not play for Cavan if you won't give 100%". We may need to take pain for the next year or two but I'd rather that than be back here in 2010 wondering why we have not improved. Maybe in time these dropped players will think to themselves about what legacy they will leave when they finish playing (e.g. we all know how people talk of the great players that didn't have the head for it, drank too much etc etc). This is what their kids will have to hear. Some day, with changed attitudes, people may be brought in from the cold. One thing for sure, playing for Cavan needs to be made a privelage again. If you see it as a chore then f**k off and go and tell Dessie Farrell. A couple of years back Fermanagh kicked out a number of high profile player like the great Ruairi Gallagher. Everyone said that the team couldn't afford to loose players of that class - that team contested an All Ireland semi the next year. The team is much much bigger than the individual player. The starting point needs to be to get the camp in order and move on from there and I support Keoghan if that is what he is trying to do.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on October 11, 2007, 04:21:32 PM
Quote from: anglocelt39 on October 10, 2007, 09:13:15 PM


If somebody had the balls to carry this through we could be all the better. There are plenty of players around that can do a job for us in the right setup-Hannon, Dermot Sheridan, Podge, Gunner, Gaynor, Forde, McCabe, Flanagan, Cullivan, Lyng, Mckeever, Pierson, Johnston. What they need is to be shown a bit of direction and to know that no shite will be taken. Very easy said, not as easy done. There is enough football in the county to at least make us respectable again a la Louth of this year.


The above reminds me of the English soccer team and the Pundits refrain  We need an English British Manager, Svens no good.  So they get an English Manager with the same players and guess what?  They are no good.  Sven goes into Premiership management and for now, Man City are third.

My point is that we need people who want to play for Cavan always.  If you have a chance to go off and make money, sort it out at the start of the season.  Don't start the championship, then look for/accept an offer.  I am thinking more of Johnson who is a student at the moment.  If he'd gone over to the US at the start of his  summer holidays, we wouldn't be having this conversation.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on October 11, 2007, 08:31:28 PM
My point is that we need people who want to play for Cavan always.  If you have a chance to go off and make money, sort it out at the start of the season.  Don't start the championship, then look for/accept an offer.  I am thinking more of Johnson who is a student at the moment.  If he'd gone over to the US at the start of his  summer holidays, we wouldn't be having this conversation.


Can't agree there DF, think the conversation has broadened out a bit from the Chicago 3 to the fact that we are not where we should be at with the players that are available to the county. In this case we're not talking about getting rid of Sven, he's left and is assisting Kildare at this stage, we're talking about Sven's assistant. Now some of the comments on this board over the past few months would not fill me with confidence that DK is the man to bring things forward. But what the hell, wee Marty had feck all management experience until he came down our way. Mind you, he had a savage appetite for success through discipline.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on October 11, 2007, 10:38:59 PM
Wee Marty had his problems when he came down too. He read a lazy unfit King the riot act and forced him to train to his standard - King was such a big head he thought he could dictate what his training regime would be. He also kick tobar to touch and as I said earlier, what legacy did he leave behind?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on October 12, 2007, 11:45:12 AM
Cavan Rejects 2007

James Reilly
Joey Jordan
Cathal Collins
Martin Cahill
Anthony Gaynor
Trevor Crowe
Paul Brady
Pierce McKenna
Enda King
Alan Clarke
Rory Gallagher
Finbar Reilly
Sean Johnston
Eddie Reilly
Gerard Pierson

....not a bad side.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on October 13, 2007, 12:13:34 AM
I heard this evening that new absentees from the Cavan Panel also include Larry Reilly and Cian Mackey.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on October 14, 2007, 11:53:52 PM
Larry is probably only good/fit for an impact sub role now and probably isn't willing to hang around for just that, Mackey meanwhile, for all the hype, isn't the first cousin of an intercounty footballer and doesn't even stand out for his club any time I've seen him, so he's no big loss at the present time.

Will be interesting to see who the new triallists are ahead of the new season. If Keogan can do one thing it's blood a few new players before his tenure ends. I was prepared to stomach him as long as he had Grimley there but now I just can't wait to see the back of him. Unless this new guy whose name I've forgotten already turns out to be something special...
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: CavanCola on October 15, 2007, 09:19:50 AM
How many times have cavan been in the Preliminary round of the ulster Championship in the last 10 years?

Thought that years ago that a bunch of teams had to go into a draw to see if they would be in the prelim round. (Teams that hadn't being in the prelim round for some time?). This way every team took turns to play the "Extra match" at some point.

Just seems like we are out in the middle of May travelling to Belfast on a yearly basis now?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on October 15, 2007, 10:41:21 AM
If I recall correctly

Preliminary Round 2001 - Antrim
Preliminary Round 2002 - Donegal
Preliminary Round 2006 - Down
Preliminary Round 2007 - Down
Preliminary Round 2008 - Antrim ???

Would agree that Mackey is no major loss to the set-up as he never really showed the spark that I for one was anticipating.

On the other hand I feel Larry definitely has something more to give, you only have to look at his single handed demolishing of Killygarry at the weeknend to see that. (2-4 from play).

Ballinagh lost to Cuchuillainns yesterday 2-12 to 4-08. Played some decent football ourselves and led by 7 shortly after the break then all of a sudden we fell asleep while the Cu cu's found their shooting boots and notched up 3-5 unanswered in ten minutes  :o.

(EDIT - Actually we lost the last four prelim's)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on October 15, 2007, 11:05:19 AM
Mullahoran beat us this weekend but there were multiple sendings off I hear.  Were there?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Hollow Man on October 15, 2007, 12:39:48 PM
2-4 from play?  ::)

Larry scored three points from play, five frees and a penalty...

Rogers got Knockbride's other goal

It's amazing the way stuff gets exaggerated...
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on October 15, 2007, 02:16:40 PM
Apologies Hollow Man, Chinese whispers and all that.  :-\
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on October 15, 2007, 02:21:35 PM
The draw has been very unkind to us again. First away to Antrim, a team under year 2 of a new regime. They'll be looking at that fixture as winnable and I think that game will be the focus of their year. I think it will be a tough one for us but we should be good enough to beat Antrim surely?

Assuming we do, we get a home draw against Armagh. It is hard to know at this point how good or bad either Cavan or Armagh will be next summer but it will certainly be a tough game. Home advantage might count for something but it will harldy be enough. The reward for winning that will be a semi against Down or Tyrone. You'd have to say Tyrone but again it is too early to judge form. Could Cavan beat Armagh or Tyrone in 2 games in a row? I doubt it as most teams in Ireland would have problems doing that.

The other side of the draw is pretty nasty too with Donegal, Monaghan and Derry all looking to win their 1st Ulsters in a long while and all with a good shout of doing it. It really is a graveyard of a province.

It is time of the year to set goals for the year ahead. For primary goal, I would like to see a new Cavan team with dedicated players giving it their all with tales of drinking and shitty attitudes gone. Secondary goal, is retaining our place in Div 2 of the league do that this new team can keep learning against the types of teams we want them to compete with and not with the lower tier teams we've been playing for the last 2 years. Third goal, Winning two games in Ulster and two in the back door. I think that is a fairly tough assignment but if the year was going well up to that point maybe it is possible.

Not sure what type of minor team we will have next year but hopefully we can build on the promise everyone talks about and actually win Ulster (although I presume the minors get the same draw as the seniors which will make it very hard too).

Can't say I am too optomistic but heres hoping.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on October 15, 2007, 02:52:01 PM
That's all fair enough Myles, it's achieveable at a stretch and would represent some sort of progress. Most vital for me is the foundations though, the results can wait to a degree IMO although surviving in Div 2 is an absolute must...but the core of dedicated players all working towards one goal in a disciplined way is priority number one now and always. It's the only hope we have of achieving something in the next few years but it remains to be seen whether management/county board have recognised the mistakes of the last 10 years and are willing to take a longer term approach. There needs to be the same ackowledgement now that there was in 1995 that we have effectively hit rock bottom and need to start from scratch all over again, instead of trying to put sticking plaster solutions in place for what's there - and patently not working - at the moment. Like 1995, despite the current malaise there are players in the county that can do much, much better than we are faring at present if someone at the top will only reorganise, reinvigorate and re-inspire the whole scene.

It wouldn't do to hold your breath as Cavan football isn't exactly thick with visionaries as far as I can see.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on October 16, 2007, 01:47:23 PM
Just after reading about a county regional competion that is going to be taking place with a view of selecting players for Cavan Senior and U-21 teams.  It's a good idea and is definately worth a try but i can't see to many lads from West Cavan travelling to Kingscourt or Mullahorn on a week night.


Drung are teamed up with Belturbet, Drumlane, Kildallon, Ballyhaise, Redhills :o , Killl

I don't know if we would have to many interested in this, Barry Watter and Mickey McEntee would be the only one's worth looking at.  What about yourselves BHman?  Barry Kelly, Slowey who else?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on October 17, 2007, 02:03:36 PM
Them two alongisde Cullivan on the seniors

and Sean McCormack and Ray Cullivan on the under 21's.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on October 17, 2007, 04:08:56 PM
How is young Cullivan's injury? I hope he's in cotton wool and taking it slowly.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on October 17, 2007, 10:30:34 PM
Quote from: cavanmaniac on October 17, 2007, 04:08:56 PM
How is young Cullivan's injury? I hope he's in cotton wool and taking it slowly.

had another operation last wednesday,was at the Belturbet league game and could walk around and kick the ball on the other foot :o .

for a normal player he should be ready for the league next year,but seeing as Cullivan is an absolute animal on the field and in the gym,nothing would suprise me to see him play in an under 21 final in december should we make it!!!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on October 18, 2007, 02:06:16 PM
This is the Ulster team for the Railway cup game at the weekend.

Ulster (SF v Connacht): J Reilly (Cavan); B Owens (Fermanagh), K McCloy (Derry), K Lacey (Donegal); A Kernan (Armagh), C Gormley (Tyrone), K Cassidy (Donegal); O Lennon (Monaghan), D Gordon (Down); D Clerkin (Monaghan), S Cavanagh (Tyrone), P Finlay (Monaghan); T Freeman (Monaghan), G Pierson (Cavan), E Muldoon (Derry).

Interesting that the two Cavan men on the team are supposedly not even on the Cavan panel!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on October 18, 2007, 02:10:21 PM
C4ever mentioned this regional trials competition though myles,so with that id doubt there is a proper panel put in place at present.

if James Reily and Gerard Pierson arent on the panel come February il be shocked.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Maximus Marillius on October 18, 2007, 02:30:27 PM
What si Pierson donig on the Ulster team FFS, he w as crap all year for Cavan in the championship
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on October 18, 2007, 02:35:31 PM
Quote from: Maximus Marillius on October 18, 2007, 02:30:27 PM
What si Pierson donig on the Ulster team FFS, he w as crap all year for Cavan in the championship

Stephen McDonnell,Bradley,Coulter etc are unavailable thats why.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Maximus Marillius on October 18, 2007, 03:25:11 PM
Haise man sure you would be better than him and your crap :P
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on October 18, 2007, 03:30:42 PM
Quote from: Maximus Marillius on October 18, 2007, 03:25:11 PM
Haise man sure you would be better than him and your crap :P

5 all Irelands and what is it 39 Ulster Titles now,

we are the undisputed Kings of Ulster.  8)

dont worry max,

you might catch up with us in 100 years if we dont win anything else  :-*  :-*
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Maximus Marillius on October 18, 2007, 03:42:14 PM
Quoteyou might catch up with us in 100 years if we dont win anything else   

thats one thing we can safely count on
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on October 18, 2007, 04:48:59 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on October 18, 2007, 02:10:21 PM
C4ever mentioned this regional trials competition though myles,so with that id doubt there is a proper panel put in place at present.

if James Reily and Gerard Pierson arent on the panel come February il be shocked.

Great chance for Pierson to show what he can do.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Hollow Man on October 20, 2007, 02:25:00 AM
QuoteWhat si Pierson donig on the Ulster team FFS, he w as crap all year for Cavan in the championship

I don't understand what you're trying to say...

Is this the Queen's English you're speaking?

As bearla le do thoil...

An labhrann tú Gaeilge í Bhreataine?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on October 20, 2007, 02:21:24 PM
Quote from: Hollow Man on October 20, 2007, 02:25:00 AM
QuoteWhat si Pierson donig on the Ulster team FFS, he w as crap all year for Cavan in the championship

I don't understand what you're trying to say...

Is this the Queen's English you're speaking?

As bearla le do thoil...

An labhrann tú Gaeilge í Bhreataine?

Ah Hollowman. He may be an Illitirate fool but accusing him of being british is below the belt methinks.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Maximus Marillius on October 20, 2007, 03:06:15 PM
Quote from: Hollow Man on October 20, 2007, 02:25:00 AM
QuoteWhat si Pierson donig on the Ulster team FFS, he w as crap all year for Cavan in the championship

I don't understand what you're trying to say...

Is this the Queen's English you're speaking?

As bearla le do thoil...

An labhrann tú Gaeilge í Bhreataine?

You don't understand, that means yer stupid.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on October 22, 2007, 05:14:16 PM
Anybody go to the Gaels v St. Eunan's match at the weekend? It sounds like it was a proper low-scoring bore-fest and the Gaels will likely meet their Waterloo against St. Galls in a fortnight's time...
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on October 23, 2007, 08:11:30 AM
It was a poor game. Gaels were crap and a draw prob would have been a fair result.  St Galls should have no problem.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on October 23, 2007, 02:13:31 PM
Bore-fest sums it up alright. How Cavan Gaels could play as bad as they did in the first half and still come away with a win, I'm still scratching my head.

Walsh was unusually impressive in midfield, seems to have adopted a new tactic of trying to catch the ball.

I'd imagine the presence of Brendan Devenny would have heavily altered the result and the Gaels will have to seriously improve if they're to stay within touching distance of St. Galls.

The Ballinagh juniors captured the Division 2A championship in some style at the weekend defeating a Laragh side by a cricket score and continuing a great year for the club.

The seniors will face Tyholland in the Ulster Intermediate Club Championship after the Farney boys thrashed Mourne side Downpatrick over the weekend.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on October 24, 2007, 03:39:47 PM
From hoganstand...

What happened to "those guys will never play for Cavan again as long as I am manager". Clearly this says that the only reason Brady is not being considered is that he is giving his time to handball. Surely this statement opens the door for johnstone and cahill to come back in too. I believe this is a sign of management weakness and points to another poor year ahead. Also, Brady didn't leave until we were out of the Ulster championship if I remember correctly so that is shite too.


Cavan lose Brady

Paul Brady
24 October 2007


Cavan selector Thomas Jackson has admitted that handball star Paul Brady is unlikely to feature for the county side in 2008.

The World Handball champion pocketed $25,000 last weekend after retaining his US Open title at Fountain Valley and it's expected that he will concentrate solely on handball in the coming year. Earlier this year, the Mullahoran clubman admitted that it was becoming increasingly difficult to combine both sports and left the football panel before the Ulster championship started.

And it now seems that the Cavan management have lost hope of him returning for the new season.

"I'd say it's very unlikely Paul will be involved with us next year," Jackson said.

"Paul is involved almost full-time in handball and so there is a conflict of interests for him. In those circumstances, it would be very difficult to accommodate him in the county panel."

Jackson did, however, express the hope that veteran midfielder Dermot McCabe will commit himself for another year.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on October 24, 2007, 09:07:45 PM
Paschal Canavan is the new Mullahoran senior team-manager
24 October 2007


The former Tyrone All-Ireland star, Pascal Canavan has been appointed manager of Mullahoran in succession to Tommy Dowd and Damien O'Reilly for next season.

Canavan who is highly regarded in GAA circles not alone in his native county but throughout Ulster, was one of Tyrone's most consistent players during their successful run in recent years, and is brother of Peter Canavan, and a member of the successful Errigal Ciaran club.

He retired from club football this year, and has some experience in club management. He was a very successful player with his home club, Errigal Ciaran, and has a good insight on what it takes to win at club and county levels.

He replaces the Tommy Dowd and Damien Reilly partnership who took over from Paul Bealin as club management during the recent Cavan SFC campaign. Mullahoran were defeated by their great rivals and near-neighbours in the recent SFC semi-final, and according to Club Chairman, Noel Reilly they are keen to get back to winning championship titles, and feel the addition of such a well-respected former county player as Paschal Canavan will give the whole club a real boost ahead of next season.


jaysus they get some high profile managers alright.
Justin McNulty
Paul Bealin
Tommy Dowd and now Pascal Canavan.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: descartes on October 26, 2007, 05:17:06 PM


Does anybody know who this fella is spouting on about, pulled this from the hoganstand


tarnsfers
Transfers
There are a number of Cvan players transferring to clubs in Dublin- what is your view of this
Seamus , Bawn Ireland , 26/10/2007 at 16:14



Any idea's?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on October 26, 2007, 06:35:40 PM
Quote from: descartes on October 26, 2007, 05:17:06 PM


Does anybody know who this fella is spouting on about, pulled this from the hoganstand


tarnsfers
Transfers
There are a number of Cvan players transferring to clubs in Dublin- what is your view of this
Seamus , Bawn Ireland , 26/10/2007 at 16:14



Any idea's?

No idea - sure the clown didn't even spell Cavan right.

Anyone hear how the county training is going?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on October 27, 2007, 08:25:07 PM
lads anyone hear about Maghera Templeport game Division 3 this weekend?
whoever loses is relegated to Div 4 alongside the B teams,

anyone in the know, know if Maghera have threatened to disband if they lose and are forced into being relegated in with all the Reserve teams in Div 4? or is it all bullshit

rumours on Hoganstand probably,
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on October 27, 2007, 10:18:09 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on October 27, 2007, 08:25:07 PM
lads anyone hear about Maghera Templeport game Division 3 this weekend?
whoever loses is relegated to Div 4 alongside the B teams,

anyone in the know, know if Maghera have threatened to disband if they lose and are forced into being relegated in with all the Reserve teams in Div 4? or is it all bullshit

rumours on Hoganstand probably,

Maghera 3-06 Templeport 1-05. Templeport get relegated to Div 4. As for disbanding clubs, well that is fine as far as I am concerned. Everyone knew what was at stake this year and at the end of the season you pretty much get what you deserve. Templeport should be nowhere near where they ended up and only have themselves to blame - maybe it is the kick in the hole  that they need.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on October 28, 2007, 04:03:38 PM
Division 1 League action this weekend

Cavan Gaels hammered Crosserlough
Ballinagh beat Belturbet
Lacken beat Gowna this afternoon

So Division 1 currently looks like....

Cavan Gaels have topped Division 1 with a game in hand and some room to spare.

Ballinagh are currently 2nd on 16 points and all games played. Gowna are one point behind on 15 and have yet to play Denn. Castlerahen are also on 15 points and also have yet to play their final round against Cuchullains. No semi-finals this year so top two go into the final.

At the other end, Division 1 new-comers Drumlane are already relegated with 4 points.

Lacken's win today leaves them on level points (8) with Kingscourt. So it comes down to Round 13 Lacken v Kingscourt, winner takes all.


Also I heard a rumour this weekend that Gerard Pierson is heading to the States for a year but I could be wrong on that.

(EDIT - Castlerahen actually take on Cuchullains not Drumlane)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: gortnaleck on October 28, 2007, 04:13:27 PM
The Gowna /Denn game would want to happen before the weekend or he'll probably miss it alright,wouldn'tknow anything about duration though
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on October 28, 2007, 10:34:24 PM
National League Fixtures

Sunday 3 February

Armagh v Cavan (2.30)

Saturday 9 February

Cavan v Monaghan(7.00)

Saturday 1 March

Cavan v Dublin(7.00)

Saturday 15 March

Meath v Cavan(7.00)

Saturday 29 March

Cavan v Cork(7.00)

Sunday 6 April

Westmeath v Cavan(2.30)

Sunday 13 April

Roscommon v Cavan(2.30)

dirty dubs will be visiting unfortunately  :P

realistically
unless theres some miraculous improvement it will be for me

Armagh Loss
Monaghan Loss
Dublin Loss
Meath Loss
Cork Win(Cork arent good travellers during the league)
Westmeath Win
Roscommon Win




Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on October 30, 2007, 12:22:16 AM
Sounds about right although the form of teams can be wildly erratic during the league so you'd hope to benefit from one or two off-colour displays by the big boys. But overall, we'll be doing well to avoid the drop I'd say.

PLus, is there some rule stating Meath never have to travel to Breffni Park? It's been a few years since we welcomed them down although usually we travel to Dublin as well...
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on October 30, 2007, 01:27:28 PM
I think our best chances in this division will rely on us making a good start. There is a chance of catching an aging Armagh team off guard in the first game and maybe a Monaghan team suffering 2nd season syndrome the 2nd day out. I can't see us beating Dublin or Cork. Meath away will be a battle but I think they have progressed better than us since last February. The last 2 games away to WestMeath and Roscommon are likely to be the key games as they will most likely be the teams fighting with us to stay up. 1 win out of those two should be enough as 6 points should be enough to keep us up judging from last years tables. In summary, we need...

Armagh - win
Monaghan - win
Dublin - lose
Cork - lose
Meath - lose
Westmeath - win
Ros - lose

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Hollow Man on November 01, 2007, 12:34:11 PM
See one of our posters got a mention in the Cavan Voice this week!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on November 01, 2007, 01:47:06 PM
Quote from: Hollow Man on November 01, 2007, 12:34:11 PM
See one of our posters got a mention in the Cavan Voice this week!

who would that be HM?

maybe Keoghan is impressed with my knowledge of potential inter county stars by reading my lists(which you like  :-[) on here and wants to offer me a job  ;D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on November 01, 2007, 03:24:36 PM
Cavan Voice? Is that another new one then so, along with the Echo, the Post and the Celt? Jasus it's either a famine or a feast.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: CC1 on November 01, 2007, 04:12:43 PM
Quote from: Hollow Man on November 01, 2007, 12:34:11 PM
See one of our posters got a mention in the Cavan Voice this week!
Yours truly was in the Post last week... Manly chap!  8)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Hollow Man on November 01, 2007, 04:38:19 PM
There was no name mentioned but someone said Templeport need a kick in the hole or something (the slasher??) and the columnist took the oppositie view

I'll post it up later if I find it
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on November 01, 2007, 04:44:11 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on October 27, 2007, 10:18:09 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on October 27, 2007, 08:25:07 PM
lads anyone hear about Maghera Templeport game Division 3 this weekend?
whoever loses is relegated to Div 4 alongside the B teams,

anyone in the know, know if Maghera have threatened to disband if they lose and are forced into being relegated in with all the Reserve teams in Div 4? or is it all bullshit

rumours on Hoganstand probably,

Maghera 3-06 Templeport 1-05. Templeport get relegated to Div 4. As for disbanding clubs, well that is fine as far as I am concerned. Everyone knew what was at stake this year and at the end of the season you pretty much get what you deserve. Templeport should be nowhere near where they ended up and only have themselves to blame - maybe it is the kick in the hole  that they need.

Are you telling me that my words of wisdom are being quoted now in the wider media? I'd be interested to read that report if it were available.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on November 01, 2007, 08:21:56 PM
Quote from: CC1 on November 01, 2007, 04:12:43 PM
Quote from: Hollow Man on November 01, 2007, 12:34:11 PM
See one of our posters got a mention in the Cavan Voice this week!
Yours truly was in the Post last week... Manly chap!  8)

getting named in the team lists at the end of the column doesnt count CC  ;D  ;D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: LackenLegend on November 02, 2007, 10:40:12 AM
Hello Turds!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on November 02, 2007, 10:57:24 AM
Welcome neighbour and all the best tomorrow against Kingscourt too.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on November 02, 2007, 12:02:27 PM
Are templeport relegated or not a fella i know that plays for them says the county board have told them they will be in division 3 next season.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on November 02, 2007, 12:51:16 PM
surely that will just mean all teams who are relegated have a reason to complain then?  ::)

you cant just do away with a rule when a team you dont want relegated is.

Our own Junior team could be relegated to Division 5 tommorow, its brought more competition to all Divisions.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on November 02, 2007, 12:55:50 PM
Quote from: LackenLegend on November 02, 2007, 10:40:12 AM
Hello Turds!

also welcome to the Board LackenMan.  :)

Best of luck tommorow as well.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on November 02, 2007, 01:15:00 PM
Quote from: LackenLegend on November 02, 2007, 10:40:12 AM
Hello Turds!

Yes, Welcome Lacken man. Such a well constructed opening post too ;D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on November 03, 2007, 12:18:42 PM
Quote from: cavan4ever on November 02, 2007, 12:02:27 PM
Are templeport relegated or not a fella i know that plays for them says the county board have told them they will be in division 3 next season.

Apparently this is true cavan4ever.

Seemingly this years Division 3 was ran with 13 teams and Division 4 with 15, so the county board are planning to just take one team up from Div 4 and even it out.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Davitt Man on November 03, 2007, 12:38:30 PM
Lacken v Kingscourt

Any predictions lads??
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Hollow Man on November 03, 2007, 08:06:15 PM
I'll go for the draw ;)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on November 05, 2007, 09:10:18 AM
Well done to ballinagh yesterday.  Did Killeshandra win?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on November 05, 2007, 11:36:31 AM
Killeshandra won 1-11 to 1-5. They played well in the first half but they nearly blew it in the 2nd. The first half they ran through the Antrim team but for some reason they were instructed to start blasting high 50/50 balls at their youg FF in the 2nd half. The Antrim team were big but hadn't much football and that tactic suited them fine. Still they hadn't enough quality to damage the leaguers in the end. Best for Killeshandra were Cillian Reilly at corner back, Colm Duffy at Full Back and Adrian Burns at wing forward. Austin Fitzpatrick had a decent game going forward but was clearly injured for all of the game. He wasn't taken off until about 5 mins were left. Declan Mckieran scored some great long range frees.

Only seen 20 minutes of the Ballinagh game. They were losing early on so the Monaghan team must have been ok (or maybe the 'nagh were poor). The bit I seen though the 'nagh looked a class above them. A lot of good interceptions, good running support for the man on the ball. Most of the scores I seen them get were simple tap overs. Gaynor (minus his hair) at FF won a lot of ball but doesn't have the pace/skill to turn a man. He seems a bit wasted up there but maybe he is also injured as he looked slugish near the end.

As for the Gaels. 0-08 to 0-02 down at half time. 0-13 to 0-08 at full time. Pretty pathetic considering the amount of current and former county men on the team. This is a sad reflection of football in Cavan when we can't even give a game to the Antrim champions.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: LackenLegend on November 05, 2007, 03:54:58 PM
Hello dudes. Were any of yas at the match on Saturday? It fairly came down to the wire!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Handball Ace on November 05, 2007, 05:12:43 PM
I heard it was extremely close all right, should Lacken have won it?

Rumour has it Gavin Crowe was a big loss due to flatulence?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on November 05, 2007, 10:46:24 PM
A very impressive (well I would say that wouldn't I  ;D) 2nd half performance saw Ballinagh through on Sunday with a convincing 1-13 to 2-5 victory of a strong Tyholland side. After starting well and notching the first scores of the tie Tyholland soon showed their danger with some slick moves and fast interchanges landing them both their goals and sending them in at half time four points to the good (2-3 to 0-5). We started the second half a much different side and in the end it was the 100% improvement in work ethic that earned us the spoils. Best for Ballinagh were Paul Galligan, Niall McDermott, Niall O'Reilly, Patrick Carroll and Cian McDermott with Kevin Smith and Anthony Duffy also producing fine displays when introduced. Ballinagh now take on the winners of Fanad Gaels (Donegal) and Killyman (Tyrone) who drew at the weekend and will meet again next Sunday.

I only caught the first half of the Killeshandra match as I had an awful thirst on me  :P and the leaguers looked home and dry. For the bit I did see, it was an excellent display from the young Killeshandra side who snuffed out all Ahoghill's attacks and drove at there defense in waves. I was quite surprised to hear how tight it finished in the end as the Antrim side seemed to have no answer for the gallant leaguers in the first half. It's hard to believe that this team is propelled by two 19 year olds at midfield. The future looks very prosperous for Slashers lot.

Commiserations to Cavan Gaels it would have been a great boost for the county to see the three teams progress to the semi-finals stages but alas by all accounts St. Galls were a step too far. Johnston was obviously a big loss as the Gaels struggled to find the scores necessary to compete. Encouraging to hear reports of a good Mícheal Lyng display who seems to be getting back to himself and could really make a difference to Cavan can he stay of the stretcher.

I was in attendance alright LackenLegend for the sudden death encounter and I must say a draw was a fair result as there was nothing between the two sides (Duh!). The football at times may not have been for the purists but it remained an exciting and tense affair throughout. The moving of Joe Crowe to midfield swung the match back in Lacken's favour with brother Trevor and himself dominating midfield in the 2nd half. Had Finbar Reilly been given a little more help inside my neighbours would be enjoying another year in the top flight. I thought the Stars' two corner backs were very impressive. I'm told the replay is likely to take place in Mullahoran under lights on Friday night. The immediacy will probably cost both sides of their full-backs with both Paul Brady (Lacken) and Wakely (Kingscourt) leaving the pitch with injuries on Saturday.

I also caught some of the Redhills Vs Mountnugent u21 game on Saturday afternoon. Redhills came through easy enough and have strong physical outfit that will mean a very interesting tie when they meet our own u21 side this Saturday. David Finnegan will be a big loss to the Ballinagh after pulling his hamstring in the Tyholland clash.

Quote from: Handball Ace on November 05, 2007, 05:12:43 PM
I heard it was extremely close all right, should Lacken have won it?

Rumour has it Gavin Crowe was a big loss due to flatulence?

Knowing the family this is probably true, the Crowe brothers have emptied many a pub over the years.  :D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: LackenLegend on November 06, 2007, 10:01:06 AM
Quote from: Homer on November 05, 2007, 10:46:24 PM
I'm told the replay is likely to take place in Mullahoran under lights on Friday night.

I really hope this isn't true as the Kingscourt lads would have a slight advantage of being used to playing under lights.

Quote from: Handball Ace on November 05, 2007, 05:12:43 PM
I heard it was extremely close all right, should Lacken have won it?

Rumour has it Gavin Crowe was a big loss due to flatulence?

Yes this is so. Gavin's flatulence has been the demise of his playing career. A sad finish to a promising career.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on November 06, 2007, 12:00:35 PM
Forgot to mention this last night. Both Gowna and Castlerahen won their respective League games at the weekend and will now face each other in a play-off to decide who will meet Cavan Gaels in the Division 1 League final.

I really don't mean to sound like sour grapes here but does anyone else feel that the league should return to its "top four through to a semi-final" format. I found that the league became very meaningless for a lot of mid-table teams as the competition approached the final rounds this year, whereas at the same stage last year every team had something to play for (be it relegation or a semi-final spot). Any thoughts?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on November 06, 2007, 12:11:13 PM
Homer. Agree with you on that. But the fourth and fifth placed teams, if level on points, should be decided on score difference instead of a play-off. I forgot to say earlier that I heard from a 100% source that Gerard Pierson has gone to the US and is supposed to be coming back at Christmas. That would seem to mean he is not going to feature for Cavan considering what happened to Gaynor when he did it.

Homer - Is Gaynor carrying an injury? He seemed a bit sluggish in the last 10 mins on Sunday and was wearing a knee strapping.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on November 06, 2007, 12:36:19 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on November 06, 2007, 12:11:13 PM
Homer. Agree with you on that. But the fourth and fifth placed teams, if level on points, should be decided on score difference instead of a play-off.

I'd probably prefer this situation to be decided in an against the head manner with the winner of their previous encounter getting the nod. If this happened to be a draw, settle it on points difference.

Quote from: mylestheslasher on November 06, 2007, 12:11:13 PM
Homer - Is Gaynor carrying an injury? He seemed a bit sluggish in the last 10 mins on Sunday and was wearing a knee strapping.

I only noticed the heavy strapping at the game myles so I couldn't tell ya but I don't think he was too bad. I would agree his fitness is not near the levels of his county days and his absence from the scene is may even be a bigger loss to Ballinagh than Cavan. He's not your natural full forward by any stretch of the imagination but he can very useful at winnning and breaking balls and the tactic works well with the likes of Niall McDermott around him to gather.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on November 06, 2007, 11:44:45 PM
I hear Lorcan Mulvey is playing rugby at full back for a local team in Cavan and by all accounts is acquitting himself well.

Discuss. :P
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on November 07, 2007, 08:26:50 AM
Quote from: cavanmaniac on November 06, 2007, 11:44:45 PM
I hear Lorcan Mulvey is playing rugby at full back for a local team in Cavan and by all accounts is acquitting himself well.

Discuss. :P

He did that last year aswell, keeps him fit during the winter   ;) .
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: gortnaleck on November 07, 2007, 02:32:03 PM
I hear Pearson is trying out for the 49ers as well. Is Keogan getting rid of them or what
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Blue06 on November 07, 2007, 03:16:02 PM
I heard Mad Eddie is back in.

Pearson I am told is out, wasn't putting the effort in.

Also told theres definetly no way back for Johnston & Cahill.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on November 07, 2007, 10:06:08 PM
Eddie is worth another shot I suppose. I have my doubts that he has the class required for intercounty but I'd rather have him in there than someone more talented, but only interested in swinging the lead, like Pearson.

Cahill and Johnston debate has already been done but I'll reiterate that I think it'll do us better long term to take a stand on things like this.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: gortnaleck on November 08, 2007, 01:52:10 AM
By all accounts he wasn't swinging the lead in the County Final and that with a couple of lads marking him.Managers need to be part psychologist I think to work with all the different personalities in a squad.What motivates Jim might not necessarily work with Joe.Cavan need all their players and these players have to be made feel that they are needed and are important too.The good teams all have players who are ,lets say a bit different,but the good managers know how to make the situation work without alienating half the other players.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: LackenLegend on November 09, 2007, 09:49:13 AM
Well lads what do yas think for this weekend? :o
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on November 09, 2007, 11:09:35 AM
Quote from: gortnaleck on November 08, 2007, 01:52:10 AM
By all accounts he wasn't swinging the lead in the County Final and that with a couple of lads marking him.Managers need to be part psychologist I think to work with all the different personalities in a squad.What motivates Jim might not necessarily work with Joe.Cavan need all their players and these players have to be made feel that they are needed and are important too.The good teams all have players who are ,lets say a bit different,but the good managers know how to make the situation work without alienating half the other players.

He busts a gut for his club and always looks a decent player with Gowna but I've been hearing for years that he practically has to be dragged kicking and screaming to play for the county, the only exception to that being when Eamon Coleman was at the helm. Some Cavan lads have been made feel TOO important and that's a bigger problem than the opposite.
There comes a point where you have to make a distinction between indulging a guy a wee bit to get the best out of him, and giving him carte blanche to act the maggot. If Pierson could be got right he'd be great to have but there's no smoke without fire and stories of his lack of motivation have been doing the rounds for years. I'd say that's why he wasn't getting starts this year, he probably wasn't putting it in, and now has got the elbow. In the short term his absence will hurt us just like Johnston's but longer term we're better off letting everyone know that only 100% committed players are welcome because we'll just be running to stand still every year otherwise.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: billy the kid on November 09, 2007, 01:09:08 PM
I think the GPA should be ashamed of themselves they are undermining everything the GAA stands for.  What they are asking for is Pay for |Play dressed up in fancy clothes.

They are an elitist Organisation who are only concerned with themselves and I firmly believe its a case of a few leading the many.

Don't get me wrong i totally agree with players being treated well and looked after if they get injured but they are always looking for more and more.

Currently every season inter-county players in Derry get:

2 pairs of boots
2 full kits a season,
2 full sets of training gear. (1 wet and 1 normal)
1 rain jacket
1 zip up top
1 jumper
2 polo shirts
1 tracksuit
Home training Equipment
Free access to state of the art gym

All the above are official Derry gear from O neills with emblems and crests and this is only the gear I KNOW FOR CERTAIN they get!

Also they have access to a top class physio, team doctor dietician and heart screening facilities.

they receive meals after ALL games and on the way to away games

they get fed after every training

and they also get VERY GOOD rebates on their mileage expenses.

Again these are jut the things i KNOW FOR CERTAIN!!

for each national league game they receive 4 passes each allowing friends and family to gain admission to the games for FREE and the passes can be used for both hurling and football even if only involved in one code.

They receive at least 2 and sometimes more FREE tickets for ALL championship matches they are involved in

They receive 2 good tickets for the all Ireland final in their code (hurling or football) for FREE

Before the club championship begins they receive a pass allowing them to gain FREE entry to ALL championship matches within the county in EITHER code at ANY level
 
The above list was given to me when I asked a PRESENT COUNTY PLAYER from our club about conditions at inter-county level.

I don't think anyone would begrudge them these things as the gear and medical farcicalities are a MUST and so are the mileage expenses and the meals.

The other stuff are added perks and again I would say Just right they are training very hard and giving a big commitment to Our County.

Looking at the list I would say our county players are fairly well looked after wouldn't you? And this is just the example of our county alot of other counties like Armagh and Tyrone get even more gear and perks which again is fair enough.

But to ask for money and to make out that they are so hard done by and listening to some of their leaders you'd think some were hardly fit to feed themselves and on the way to financial ruin is an absolute myth and border line lie!!

What ever happened to being proud to play for your county and pride in the jersey? That used to be enough to make people play for their counties.

Has Pride and honour fallen of the radar of the GPA in their obsession with self-worth and self-gain.
If pride in the jersey and being honoured to represent your County plus the list i have supplied aren't enough to make individuals play for OUR county teams do we really want them to? The type of character who would undermine the very fabric of our great organisation to line his own pockets.   

I was also informed by the County player from my own Club that most county players don't want to strike but are being openly pressurised to do so. Is this Democracy?

Its also evident the GPA are so far removed from the grassroots GAA and the supporters that they haven't noticed that the vast majority are strongly against it, but why would they listen to us mere mortals?

Down Manager Ross Carr has the right idea:

If these prima donnas strike and refuse to play Each County should find a panel of players who will represent their counties for pride honour and the other perks i listed. There would be a stampede to trials and it would totally negate the strike and render their actions futile and meaningless.

We cannot let the elitist few hold the rest of us to ransom while they try to gain financially for doing what most TRUE Gaels consider an Honour and a privilege – PLAY FOR YOUR COUNTY 
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on November 09, 2007, 02:24:49 PM
From Hoganstand....

I would be in agreement with Billy the Kid on this. I have no idea how many of the Cavan panel are involved in the GPA but if they want to strike Keoghan should go out and find 15 players that want to wear the jersey. I am sick of hearing Dessie Farrell talking shite. County players give a lot alright but they do get a lot in return. They get fame, popularity, health, fitness and they get to leave a legacy behind on top of what Billy the kid says - hard to put a value on that. No one is forced to play football or hurling. If it is too much then quit and let someone else have a go. I would be disgusted if Cavan fail to field a team in any game this year.


Players vote for strike action
09 November 2007


A ballot held among GPA members saw 95% of them vote to go on strike arising from discontent at the stalling of negotiations in relation to the distribution of five million euros worth of player grants.

Dessie Farrell, chief executive of the GPA said there had been a 71% turnout in the ballot.

The association has a membership just short of 1,900 players and 1,348 players sent their voting slips back.

The strike comes into effect immediately with GPA members allowed to train with their counties but they will not be allowed to participate in intercounty games of any type, while they may still line out with their clubs. The strike will stay in place until a method has been fully agreed which will free up the proposed Eur5m in players grants which the government have promised.

GPA secretary Donal Og Cusack read out a prepared statement in which he indicated that he was hopeful that a resolution could be found.

"The GPA believes that a resolution can be found in the interim and accepts the genuine commitment being made by the other two parties to this process," said Cusack.

"However, while there is optimism, we remain resolute that we will carry out our strike action should the impasse continue indefinitely. Our campaign for the implementation of the grants scheme has been on-going for five years and we have a duty to our members to expedite this important matter which we intend to do."

Although the strike comes into effect straight away, in reality the GPA are giving the GAA two months to sort out the issue as there are no intercounty games until January and county boards have for the past two years been told not to play challenge matches in the months of November and December as they are deemed part of the close season.

Minister for Sport Seamus Brennan has already indicated that he is willing to work with the GPA and GAA to sort out the matter, so many will view this strike action from the GPA as a show of strength from the players body which quite possibly may not have to be seen through.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: LackenLegend on November 09, 2007, 02:51:47 PM
I have to say i agree with the lads' comments above. Many people would kill to play county football. Imagine what is was like years ago when county players got F all for their troubles. I think a bit of greed is involved here. Its the poor punter who is paying the price. If people didn't show up to watch these games then the players wouldn't be too bothered. But no, they get a kick out of playing in front of big crowds, something most people can only dream about. Not to mention all the gear and perks they get for doing something they love. They are not forced to play the game so i think they should like it or lump it.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on November 09, 2007, 06:00:31 PM
Mouthpiece Dessie has been spoiling for a fight for a long time and he's got it now. As far as I'm concerned he's backed himself and his GPA mates into a corner out of which they will find it hard to escape. I can tell you from a personal viewpoint that Nicky Brennan will be well fit for him in this little skirmish. I reckon the authorities will just sit this one out and let Dessie and co wriggle. Nothing to do with us, these elite player grants says the GAA, and there is a not fully representative group of players who want to go on strike over it, ok lads sit out the Mckenna and O Byrne cup for a few rounds and see who takes the flak.

Dessie's been seeking attention for some time now and he might get it, interesting to see what he's made of when the heat turns on him.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on November 10, 2007, 03:34:58 PM
None of the Cavan players can complain about their treatment,thats for sure,Money brought in by great fundraising by The Dublin Cavan Supporters club etc is thrown at the County team each year,despite the fact that we go out of the championship most years very early,we always seem to spend more on our team that most who are in the championship 2 months more.

Would be interesting to know what the support for the strike was like in the Cavan camp.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on November 12, 2007, 11:18:48 AM
I'm glad it has come to this point at last. Only now will we truly see if the emporer has no clothes; up to now there's been a certain fear factor over the potential for a strike. Now they've finally gone for broke let's just wait and see how many of the 95% have the balls to go through with it and face the wrath of the GAA communities at large in their own counties. It's one thing having socks down protests and late start protests and what have you, another entirely to refuse to play.

I fully agree with all comments above. If the players do decide to sit it out, then leave them to their own devices to f**k with them. The assumption underpinning the 'decision' to strike is that the games and the association cannot and somehow won't survive without the current players. The answer to that has to be to call their bluff and leave them sitting on the sidelines in their free gear and allow 15 others to take their place. No player is bigger than the association and must never be allowed to be.

Players deserve to be treated properly and the GPA has done laudible work, with a previously very reticent GAA, to improve conditions. And fair play to them for that. However, what have they done for the club player outside the 1800 or so (not that they've ever told us how many members they have so how many counties haven't signed up for this. Keeping that very quiet aren't they?) elitist intercounty members on their books? They're all about looking after themselves and the top johnnies, and nobody else, and now 'looking after' doesn't concern meals and tickets, it's all about cold hard cash. This grant thing or however they want to dress it up is just the thin end of the wedge as regards pay for play and everybody knows it, and as such could be the beginning of the end for an association already suffering and alienating people because of an obsession with money.

There has to be a better way of rewarding players for their efforts than paying them.

The actuarial report about loss of earnings was certainly interesting. I'd love to see a similar report documenting the money players actually make through being an interconunty player, in nixers here and there, through getting sales rep jobs, through having jobs invented for them by the county board to keep them at home and so on. There's alot of intercounty players in jobs that wouldn't have them if they weren't intercounty players, nobody is commissioning actuarial reports into any of that.

f**king GPA are a bunch of grasping c***ts.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Hollow Man on November 12, 2007, 11:26:56 AM
QuoteThe actuarial report about loss of earnings was certainly interesting. I'd love to see a similar report documenting the money players actually make through being an interconunty player, in nixers here and there, through getting sales rep jobs, through having jobs invented for them by the county board to keep them at home and so on. There's alot of intercounty players in jobs that wouldn't have them if they weren't intercounty players, nobody is commissioning actuarial reports into any of that.

Hear hear. Well said Maniac.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: CoillyG on November 12, 2007, 11:52:18 AM
Very well put Maniac, my thoughts exactly.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on November 12, 2007, 12:39:14 PM
Oh dear - looks like the GPA haven't much of a fanbase amongst the Cavan board members :D. I hear Lacken beat Kingscourt relegating them to Div 2. Anyone at the game or know the score? I presume Lackenlegend will let us know when he logs on today.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Hollow Man on November 12, 2007, 12:41:32 PM
Lacken won 1-8 to 0-6

Kingscourt were brutal, R McCormack scored all of their six, all of them were frees

Lacken were leading 1-7 to 0-2 early in the second half and then took their foot off the pedal
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: CC1 on November 12, 2007, 03:58:25 PM
I see Cavan Gaels beat Denn by 45 points in the division 1 Under 21 championship... Am I the only one who thinks that this layout for the u21 championship is absolutely ridiculous?! I remember playing the majority of this Denn team a few years in a row a while back and with all due respect they were a struggling Rionn C side then and on one occasion they couldn't field a team (7 of their players turned up).

Surely teams like Denn should be in Division 2 for such championships and teams like Ballinagh, Lavey, Ballyhaise and maybe even Shercock (we have a very strong side this year) could give Division 1 a go.

On another note and again, nothing against Denn! Well done to our u16 side who won their championship at the expense of Denn yesterday. Great team performance and lots of potential there for the future for us. That is a few underage titles we have won this year, well done to all involved.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: LackenLegend on November 12, 2007, 04:03:44 PM
Great win for Lacken. Commiserations to Kingscourt. This match was not as evenly contested as the las with Lacken in control for most of it. As said before Kingscourt depended on the frees. For a change Lacken did not direct everything through Finbar Reilly as Kingscourt expected and this allowed other players to get on the scoreboard. Powerful perfmance by Lacken. Kingscourt beware, Div2 is not am easy place to get out of but best of luck.

P.S. Nice pic above Thastheball
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: billy the kid on November 12, 2007, 04:56:23 PM
Best picture on entire site!!!!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Handball Ace on November 12, 2007, 05:05:04 PM
QuoteGowna won the senior league yesterday, a 1 pt win over Castlerahan. Rahan need to get a little bit more size into their team, to make the championship break through, although they seem to doing alot of work at underage level, which could eventually find the 2/3 players they need.

That was only the semi

They play the scum, I mean Cavan Gaels, in the final...

Joke there by the way any sensitive Gaels fellas.... ;D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on November 12, 2007, 05:10:57 PM
Supose the gaels will win that aswell.  They have won some amount of trophies this year.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Handball Ace on November 12, 2007, 05:34:24 PM
In relative terms though, their senior team is still one of the worst in the province.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: LackenLegend on November 13, 2007, 09:24:26 AM
Good win for neighbours Gowna. I think we might see an upset in the final. Gowna's Niall Madden seems to be in flying form since Pierson's departure. Maybe its because all the ball was previously directed to Pierson and others didn't get the chance to get on the scoresheet. That said Pierson is still in the top three forwards in the county. I heard a rumour that he will be home for the final. Anybody know if this is true? Castlerahan's midfield were dominated by an ageing Ciaran Brady. Surely not a good sign for the maroons.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on November 13, 2007, 11:56:39 AM
Was there any regional games last weekend?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: clarshack on November 13, 2007, 12:18:44 PM
how come ballinagh play in the intermediate championship when they finished something like 4th in division 1. surely they should have been playing in the senior championship?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on November 13, 2007, 12:30:37 PM
Quote from: clarshack on November 13, 2007, 12:18:44 PM
how come ballinagh play in the intermediate championship when they finished something like 4th in division 1. surely they should have been playing in the senior championship?

Because in Cavan promotion/releagtion from Leagues is totally seperate from championship. Theoretically in cavan you could be in Div 6 and be competing in the Senior championship. To get promoted from Div 2 to Div 1 you must finish in the top two in Div 2. To get promoted from intermediate to senior championship you must win the intermediate championship. Ballinagh only won the intermediate this year after "choking" on the big stage in previous years. They actually won Div 1 in the league last year too.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: clarshack on November 13, 2007, 02:14:09 PM
i take it ballinagh would fancy themselves for an ulster intermediate then? if so they would need to be a lot better than drumalee who were in ulster year. i saw the dvd of drumalee and ballymacnab and drumalee disappointed me considering they were a 1st division cavan side. i thought butlersbridge (who we beat in ulster a few years ago) were as good as drumalee. maybe drumalee had an off day against the nab.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on November 13, 2007, 02:19:05 PM
Quote from: clarshack on November 13, 2007, 02:14:09 PM
i take it ballinagh would fancy themselves for an ulster intermediate then? if so they would need to be a lot better than drumalee who were in ulster year. i saw the dvd of drumalee and ballymacnab and drumalee disappointed me considering they were a 1st division cavan side. i thought butlersbridge (who we beat in ulster a few years ago) were as good as drumalee. maybe drumalee had an off day against the nab.

Drumalee would be decent at times but not as good as ballinagh I would say. They would be much better than Butlersbridge who are a Div 3 team now. Homer who posts here is from ballinagh - he may or may not give you some inside info on whether the team is really chasing the Ulster crown or if they are happy to have the intermediate. That desire (or lack of it) could play a part.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: clarshack on November 13, 2007, 02:30:21 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on November 13, 2007, 02:19:05 PM
Quote from: clarshack on November 13, 2007, 02:14:09 PM
i take it ballinagh would fancy themselves for an ulster intermediate then? if so they would need to be a lot better than drumalee who were in ulster year. i saw the dvd of drumalee and ballymacnab and drumalee disappointed me considering they were a 1st division cavan side. i thought butlersbridge (who we beat in ulster a few years ago) were as good as drumalee. maybe drumalee had an off day against the nab.

Drumalee would be decent at times but not as good as ballinagh I would say. They would be much better than Butlersbridge who are a Div 3 team now. Homer who posts here is from ballinagh - he may or may not give you some inside info on whether the team is really chasing the Ulster crown or if they are happy to have the intermediate. That desire (or lack of it) could play a part.

do ballinagh have many county men?

whatever happened to butlersbridge? 3 years ago they gave us our toughest game on our path to the all-ireland junior final. i thought they were a decent side and on the way up. mulvey was a good target man in full forward and mickey graham seemed to have them in good shape too.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on November 13, 2007, 02:43:07 PM
Quote from: clarshack on November 13, 2007, 02:30:21 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on November 13, 2007, 02:19:05 PM
Quote from: clarshack on November 13, 2007, 02:14:09 PM
i take it ballinagh would fancy themselves for an ulster intermediate then? if so they would need to be a lot better than drumalee who were in ulster year. i saw the dvd of drumalee and ballymacnab and drumalee disappointed me considering they were a 1st division cavan side. i thought butlersbridge (who we beat in ulster a few years ago) were as good as drumalee. maybe drumalee had an off day against the nab.

Drumalee would be decent at times but not as good as ballinagh I would say. They would be much better than Butlersbridge who are a Div 3 team now. Homer who posts here is from ballinagh - he may or may not give you some inside info on whether the team is really chasing the Ulster crown or if they are happy to have the intermediate. That desire (or lack of it) could play a part.

do ballinagh have many county men?

whatever happened to butlersbridge? 3 years ago they gave us our toughest game on our path to the all-ireland junior final. i thought they were a decent side and on the way up. mulvey was a good target man in full forward and mickey graham seemed to have them in good shape too.

They have Pauric (Podge) Reilly at Full Back. He played with the county 2 years ago but opted out last year for exams I think. Anthony Gaynor is playing for them at FF - he was left out of panel last year for a number of reasons depending on who you talk to. Paul Galligan is a corner forward who is ex county. He played for Cavan in 2001 Ulster Final against Tyrone and had a good game. Again, Homer would have the minor/u21 players better than I would.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: LackenLegend on November 13, 2007, 02:46:51 PM
Lads, ye should check out the article about the GPA in the comment section of the Irish Indo today. I think its by Darragh McManus. Interesting stuff and entirely correct in my opinion.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on November 13, 2007, 03:11:14 PM
Quote from: LackenLegend on November 13, 2007, 02:46:51 PM
Lads, ye should check out the article about the GPA in the comment section of the Irish Indo today. I think its by Darragh McManus. Interesting stuff and entirely correct in my opinion.

Any chance of a link - can't find it.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Cavanfan on November 13, 2007, 04:47:38 PM
Here's the links

http://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-football/gpa-still-hoping-to-play-ball-as-sides-meet-for-vital-talks-1217714.html

http://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-football/gaa-managers-need-to-butt-out-of-strike-1217712.html

http://www.independent.ie/sport/hurling/gaa-deny-mooted-all-stars-boycott-of-new-york-trip-1217725.html
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on November 13, 2007, 04:54:53 PM
I think the one Lackenlegend is on about is actually this one which isn't in the sports section...

http://www.independent.ie/opinion/gaa-strikers-on-target-to-score-an-own-goal-1217777.html
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on November 13, 2007, 04:59:14 PM
Sure I'll just post it here ....


by Darragh McManus
Tuesday November 13 2007


Have you ever heard of someone "striking" against their own hobby? No, me neither, but for Dessie Farrell and his cohort in the Gaelic Players' Association (GPA), the impossible is not only possible, but likely.


Let's be clear about what hurling and football are to inter-county players: a pastime, freely chosen, which they do because they enjoy it. Despite extravagant declarations about player "sacrifice" which is costing them time and money, they are not forced to play, by anybody or for anybody.

They are free to quit entirely or swap to other sports at any time. Indeed, there is a club level in GAA to suit all tastes, from top-quality senior sides to Division 10 junior teams who only meet up for matches.

The essential point again: this is a hobby. To expect to be financially recompensed for your hobby -- and to threaten a so-called "strike" if your demands are not met -- is totally unreasonable, not to mention absurd.

It's also unworkable. These players are not employed by the GAA, so who exactly do they intend to "strike" against, what form will it take and what effect do they expect it to have?

Inter-county players are voluntary members of GAA clubs who are invited, by their county board in the person of the team manager, to play on the county team; nothing more nor less. Should they decline that invitation, as is their right, the county board has the responsibility and obligation to extend the invitation to alternative players.

There are thousands of fine talents across the country who would give their right arm to play for the county, and the paying public will follow these players in their thousands. GPA mouthpieces may say that the big stars are the main attraction, but this is untrue.

While they have affection for individual players, GAA people follow their club and county -- team members are considered privileged to wear that coveted jersey. This is why inter-county and club competitions have thrived for 13 decades, long before the current era of hype and "the big occasion", and why the recent inter-provincials in Croke Park -- despite gathering an impressive collection of star players -- were attended by less than 10,000 people.

And please, enough of the loaded terminology, like "crossing the picket line", to emotionally blackmail other players into supporting this "strike": nobody's employment is under threat, and replacements have every moral right to play. (Enough, also, of self-fulfilling prophecies which declare, like Sean Diffley in this paper on Saturday, that professionalism in the GAA is inevitable. It only is if you keep saying it is.) A GPA "strike" will not succeed, and should not. The GAA was set up as a cultural and community organisation, to foster indigenous games and arts.

It exists so that every child or adult who wants to play has a field, a dressing room, a hurley or football, and someone to coach them and arrange matches.

It is an elemental force in Irish life, and cannot be held hostage by a contentious, and tiny, group of elite players. (The GPA represents less than 2,000 members of an organisation totalling more than 800,000 -- not even a quarter of one per cent.)

The GAA is immeasurably bigger, and more important, than individual players, managers, club members, famous stars, media commentators or anybody else.

And it is worth preserving at any expense. The inter-county championship may be the jewel in the crown, but the GAA can survive without it.

But it won't come to that, anyway. Despite claims to the contrary, I don't believe the ordinary grassroots member supports this GPA brinkmanship; I don't even believe they support the principle of grant payments for inter-county players. Many nervously see it as the thin end of the wedge regarding full professionalism, and considering how money-oriented the GPA has proven itself, they are right to be nervous.

If I had GAA President Nickey Brennan on the phone, I would tell him, hold fast in the face of this provocation -- the people will support you.

Donal Og Cusack and his ilk endlessly recite the mantra, "It's all about respect". Well, you have to give respect if you want to receive it. Where is the GPA respect, for example, for GAA officials at all levels, those sneered-at "suits" who do the tedious, unglamorous jobs behind the scenes?

All they get is contempt and abuse, despite the fact that their dedication is as great as inter-county players and their work just as important.

Where is the respect for the club member who doesn't want to see his association threatened by avarice and discord? Or the hugely committed inter-county camogie player or women's footballer, or senior club player?

Here's one example: my father was club chairman for 18 years. He coached primary schools teams, boys and girls, under-age and adult club teams, played, attended meetings, drove us to matches, sold lotto tickets, helped gather the grass when the pitch was mown. Post-retirement he is still involved, as a club-man, supporter and selector on the county U21 football team.

People like this made the GAA the most remarkable sporting organisation on the planet.

To concede the principle of elitism, to stratify the assocation, to yield to threats and media pressure, to open up the appalling vista of professionalism, is to betray the values and principles that inspired them.

My father was not unique, but the GAA is -- let's keep it that way.

Darragh McManus is author of 'GAA Confidential (Everything you never knew you wanted to know about Gaelic games)'

- Darragh McManus
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: LackenLegend on November 14, 2007, 09:06:04 AM
Yep thats the one mylestheslasher!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: CoillyG on November 14, 2007, 10:04:32 AM
Right Lads year is over, bar Ballinagh and Killashandra's exploits in Ulster and a few league finals. How do people feel the year went nad what can we learn for next year.

Keogans appointment,
The promising start hammering Derry in the Mc Kenna Cup,
The whole Gallagher affair and the disaster it turned out to be,
The unearthing of Jonathan Crowe and Michael Cunningham at intercounty level only for the to dissapear come championship.
Miller opting out of the panel then returing,
Gaynors absence,
Scraping a result against Wexford in our promotion bid,
Gaining promotion,
The exception year Mc Cabe had at Club and County,
Fluking a draw against Down,
Droping Johnstone,
Playing attrociously in the lovely new Park Esker,
Cahill, Brady, Johnstone leaving,
Nicholas Walsh being a disaster yet again,
The entire team looking a bit heavy for both games,
Mc Cabe attempting to pull us through against a very poor Mayo team,
The Gaels v Gowna in the first round of the Championship,
The suspensions,
The potential breakthrough from Killygarry and Castlerahan never materialising,
Rory Donohoes form for Belturbet,
Bailieboro's mini renissance,
Mc Cabes injury depriving us of a potentialy good county final,
Drumgoons disasterous finish to the year failing to win the necessary 1 game out of 5,
Kingscourts league disaster,
Killygarry being the first team in a long time to make the bounce straight back to Division 1,
Martin Reillys club form kicking 10 points against Drumgoon,
Proud Laragh being relegated,
Maghera threatening to disband,
Templeport being regulated to division 4,
The Gaels flop in Ulster yet gain,

I know there is a hell of alot more, but whats people's thoughts?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: shotstopper1 on November 14, 2007, 11:04:18 AM
Now that Cavan Gaels and Gowna are in the league final, would there be any chance that the county board could fix a double header in Breffni? Div 3 league final replay to be played before the Div 1 league final.Sure wouldn't it save the Gaels supporters a lot of hassle and money.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on November 14, 2007, 11:33:57 AM
Quote from: CoillyG on November 14, 2007, 10:04:32 AM
Right Lads year is over, bar Ballinagh and Killashandra's exploits in Ulster and a few league finals. How do people feel the year went nad what can we learn for next year.

Keogans appointment,
The promising start hammering Derry in the Mc Kenna Cup,
The whole Gallagher affair and the disaster it turned out to be,
The unearthing of Jonathan Crowe and Michael Cunningham at intercounty level only for the to dissapear come championship.
Miller opting out of the panel then returing,
Gaynors absence,
Scraping a result against Wexford in our promotion bid,
Gaining promotion,
The exception year Mc Cabe had at Club and County,
Fluking a draw against Down,
Droping Johnstone,
Playing attrociously in the lovely new Park Esker,
Cahill, Brady, Johnstone leaving,
Nicholas Walsh being a disaster yet again,
The entire team looking a bit heavy for both games,
Mc Cabe attempting to pull us through against a very poor Mayo team,
The Gaels v Gowna in the first round of the Championship,
The suspensions,
The potential breakthrough from Killygarry and Castlerahan never materialising,
Rory Donohoes form for Belturbet,
Bailieboro's mini renissance,
Mc Cabes injury depriving us of a potentialy good county final,
Drumgoons disasterous finish to the year failing to win the necessary 1 game out of 5,
Kingscourts league disaster,
Killygarry being the first team in a long time to make the bounce straight back to Division 1,
Martin Reillys club form kicking 10 points against Drumgoon,
Proud Laragh being relegated,
Maghera threatening to disband,
Templeport being regulated to division 4,
The Gaels flop in Ulster yet gain,

I know there is a hell of alot more, but whats people's thoughts?


Templeport the First team to get relegated to divison 4 and then the county board change their mind and let them stay up.
Drung getting relegated to Junior  >:(
Keoghan not selecting Miller for 08 season and then having to go back to him  because other goalkeepers were not up to standard.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on November 14, 2007, 04:03:37 PM
Quote from: cavan4ever on November 14, 2007, 11:33:57 AM
Quote from: CoillyG on November 14, 2007, 10:04:32 AM
Right Lads year is over, bar Ballinagh and Killashandra's exploits in Ulster and a few league finals. How do people feel the year went nad what can we learn for next year.

Keogans appointment,
The promising start hammering Derry in the Mc Kenna Cup,
The whole Gallagher affair and the disaster it turned out to be,
The unearthing of Jonathan Crowe and Michael Cunningham at intercounty level only for the to dissapear come championship.
Miller opting out of the panel then returing,
Gaynors absence,
Scraping a result against Wexford in our promotion bid,
Gaining promotion,
The exception year Mc Cabe had at Club and County,
Fluking a draw against Down,
Droping Johnstone,
Playing attrociously in the lovely new Park Esker,
Cahill, Brady, Johnstone leaving,
Nicholas Walsh being a disaster yet again,
The entire team looking a bit heavy for both games,
Mc Cabe attempting to pull us through against a very poor Mayo team,
The Gaels v Gowna in the first round of the Championship,
The suspensions,
The potential breakthrough from Killygarry and Castlerahan never materialising,
Rory Donohoes form for Belturbet,
Bailieboro's mini renissance,
Mc Cabes injury depriving us of a potentialy good county final,
Drumgoons disasterous finish to the year failing to win the necessary 1 game out of 5,
Kingscourts league disaster,
Killygarry being the first team in a long time to make the bounce straight back to Division 1,
Martin Reillys club form kicking 10 points against Drumgoon,
Proud Laragh being relegated,
Maghera threatening to disband,
Templeport being regulated to division 4,
The Gaels flop in Ulster yet gain,

I know there is a hell of alot more, but whats people's thoughts?


Templeport the First team to get relegated to divison 4 and then the county board change their mind and let them stay up.
Drung getting relegated to Junior  >:(
Keoghan not selecting Miller for 08 season and then having to go back to him  because other goalkeepers were not up to standard.

Ballinagh winning Intermediate
Killeshandra winning Junior with very young team.
"The Brains" of the operation leaves giving Keoghan full control of the reigns
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on November 14, 2007, 09:43:45 PM
Check this out

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GzDERELGpsc

Big future ahead for Gownas Ferdia Enterprises NOT.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Maximus Marillius on November 15, 2007, 12:58:20 PM
WTF...St Pats Cavan ahve pulled out of the Mac Rory Cup after one league game...underage system in Cavan is producing results. Unbelieveable...but its true :o
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Hollow Man on November 15, 2007, 01:25:12 PM
Quoteunderage system in Cavan is producing results

How do you work that out?

Sure we haven't won anything in ages at underage level and St Pats have just pulled out of the MacRory.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Maximus Marillius on November 15, 2007, 02:39:10 PM
Quote from: Hollow Man on November 15, 2007, 01:25:12 PM
Quoteunderage system in Cavan is producing results

How do you work that out?

Sure we haven't won anything in ages at underage level and St Pats have just pulled out of the MacRory.

Are you stupid or sometning ye haven't won anything since 97 and foot all for ages before that, yer problem is that obvious you can't see it....no success at underage...even haiseman sees it ;) and thats says something! :o :o :o
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Maximus Marillius on November 15, 2007, 02:55:01 PM
The guy cant interpret sarcasm on the keyboard
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Maximus Marillius on November 15, 2007, 03:09:35 PM
Why because I follow colleges football closely and was disgusted at St Pats pulling the plugs...the second year in a row. I mean what are they at...they got a beating in one game and they run with their tails between their legs. I don't get it?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Maximus Marillius on November 15, 2007, 03:42:37 PM
Well hard stataion the guy taking the team must be stupid. It not like you know what players are each school or how your school competed against these scholls or how they have develop through the dalton, corm na og, rannafast etc....ye get plenty of clues before deciding where to pitch the level of the team. If this is the type of clown they let take senior college teams...well any wonder.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: billy the kid on November 15, 2007, 04:18:41 PM
I totally agree Max.  Look at what having the right man ( Adrian McGuckin) in charge at St Pats Maghera Done for them.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Hollow Man on November 16, 2007, 11:09:12 AM
QuoteThe guy cant interpret sarcasm on the keyboard

I was being sarcastic in return, you plank.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on November 16, 2007, 02:00:19 PM
Cavan4ever is Miller back in the fold then?

Belated congrats to Lacken and indeed their resident poster on retaining their top flight status.

Sunday 18 November
Killeshandra v The Rock (Tyrone) in Clones @ 12.30
Ballinagh v Fanad Gaels (Donegal) in Casement Park @ 2.15
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on November 16, 2007, 02:23:04 PM
Quote from: Maximus Marillius on November 15, 2007, 02:39:10 PM
Quote from: Hollow Man on November 15, 2007, 01:25:12 PM
Quoteunderage system in Cavan is producing results

How do you work that out?

Sure we haven't won anything in ages at underage level and St Pats have just pulled out of the MacRory.

Are you stupid or sometning ye haven't won anything since 97 and foot all for ages before that, yer problem is that obvious you can't see it....no success at underage...even haiseman sees it ;) and thats says something! :o :o :o

:D you fruitcake max  :P
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on November 16, 2007, 02:24:19 PM
wishing Myles and the Leagures and Homer and Ballinagh the best of luck on Sunday,a provincial title at any level is needed badly in this county,

Fly the flag well lads.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on November 16, 2007, 02:30:33 PM
Yeah he is back with them Homer.  On his last chance and has to do the same training as everyone else.  I heard Aaron Donohoe had a lot to do with him coming back. 
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on November 16, 2007, 02:47:49 PM
Quote from: cavan4ever on November 16, 2007, 02:30:33 PM
Yeah he is back with them Homer.  On his last chance and has to do the same training as everyone else.  I heard Aaron Donohoe had a lot to do with him coming back. 

We've had Aaron in as our Goalie Coach this year and the boys rate as second to none, he's a sound man too. I always felt he got a bit of a raw deal for county stint.

Great to see the prodigal son return, as you've already pointed out we don't have anyone else up to the standard.

Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on November 16, 2007, 02:24:19 PM
wishing Myles and the Leagures and Homer and Ballinagh the best of luck on Sunday,a provincial title at any level is needed badly in this county,

Fly the flag well lads.


Cheers BHM and best wishes to Myles and the Leaguers too.
Fingers crossed that between us we can see some saffron in an Ulster final this year.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: LackenLegend on November 16, 2007, 03:02:18 PM
Quote from: Homer on November 16, 2007, 02:00:19 PM
Belated congrats to Lacken and indeed their resident poster on retaining their top flight status.

Cheers lad and good luck in Belfast. Best of luck to Killashandra too.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on November 16, 2007, 03:25:02 PM
Yeah good luck to both teams this weekend  :)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: CC1 on November 19, 2007, 11:08:14 AM
Anyone know what referee was down for the Bailieborough vs. Shercock u21 match yesterday??  >:(
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on November 19, 2007, 04:23:58 PM
I hear Ballinagh are through to their Ulster club final. Homer must have a sore head today but well got, even this small(ish) achievement for Cavan football is most welcome. Well done to all concerned let's hope a few decent county players come out of the whole lot.

Shame about Killeshandra.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on November 19, 2007, 04:39:52 PM
Well done to Ballinagh - would be great for Cavan football if they could win this out. Killeshandra did well this year and were a bit unlucky not to sneak something from the game. They were well behind at half time as the rock controlled the game but the 2nd half they came right back and were only 1 point behind with a few minutes left. Unfortunately, the rock got a goal then at that finished the game. Killeshandra are a ridiculously young team I think only 2 of the normal 1st team is over 25 (one of whom wasn't playing yesterday due to a serious cheekbone injury - Captain Adie Burns). The majority of them are under 21. Good luck to the nagh next day out.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Hollow Man on November 19, 2007, 05:47:59 PM
QuoteI think only 2 of the normal 1st team is over 25 (one of whom wasn't playing yesterday due to a serious cheekbone injury - Captain Adie Burns). The majority of them are under 21.

Would you agree then that it's a disgrace that Killeshandra have joined with another club for the U21?

And aren't in Division One?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on November 19, 2007, 09:05:45 PM
I thought that they were in division 1 as Parnells. The whole idea of joining was to let these players compete at a higher grade. If they are not in Div 1 then it is a disgrace.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on November 20, 2007, 11:35:41 AM
Fair play to the lads on reaching the Ulster final on Sunday. It wasn't the most aesthetic football seen all year but they really produced an all-round grafting performance and were fully deserved of the victory.

Having just about faltered to an Intermediate Championship this year, the lads have really hit the ground running in Ulster and fingers crossed they can keep the momentum going for this Sunday against Antrim champions Dunloy.

No confirmation yet on the venue for the final but it's looking like it will be Omagh over Clones (You gotta love that Ulster council ).

Commiserations to Killeshandra from what I hear they gave it a good shot on the day and perhaps had they the services of their injured captain they could have taken it.

Re: HollowMan - Parnells are definitely in Division 1 u21.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on November 21, 2007, 07:43:14 PM
McKenna Cup Draw - Not a bad group for us I suppose....


Group A
Fermanagh, Armagh, Derry, St Mary's College Belfast.

Group B
Tyrone, Down, Donegal. University of Ulster, Jordanstown.

Group C
Antrim, Cavan, Monaghan, Queen's University, Belfast.

Semi-Finals
Winners Group B vs Winners Group C
Winners Group A vs Best Runner-Up.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on November 22, 2007, 10:37:02 AM
Not a bad draw alright, we should be able to experiment and still pick a few points.

The Antrim tie may be an interesting one.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on November 22, 2007, 10:53:04 AM
Quote from: Homer on November 22, 2007, 10:37:02 AM
Not a bad draw alright, we should be able to experiment and still pick a few points.

The Antrim tie may be an interesting one.


I wouldn't be over confidant with that.  What do you think of the crosserlough suspension ?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on November 22, 2007, 06:25:16 PM
fully expect Ballinagh to win the Ulster Inter on Sunday,

Ballinagh are a good Senior league team and will be challenging the Gaels dominance within two years in the senior championship.

like ourselves they have constantly underacheived with the talent they have at their disposal.

It seems they have now got their act together.

Been out of the clique for a while,as havent been around our club scene since the Belturbet game,

who are the new men on the county panel etc etc

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Hollow Man on November 22, 2007, 09:19:25 PM
What is Sean McCormack like as a footballer Ballyhaise Man?

I notice somebody has been 'bigging him up' all over the hogan stand lately.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on November 23, 2007, 11:30:25 AM
Quote from: Hollow Man on November 22, 2007, 09:19:25 PM
What is Sean McCormack like as a footballer Ballyhaise Man?

I notice somebody has been 'bigging him up' all over the hogan stand lately.

very good player HM

will probably be full back on the County Under 21's this coming year.

As for Hoganstand? probably some of the lads either trying to raise his profile,or some just looking for a reaction.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on November 23, 2007, 03:40:22 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on November 22, 2007, 06:25:16 PM
fully expect Ballinagh to win the Ulster Inter on Sunday,

Ballinagh are a good Senior league team and will be challenging the Gaels dominance within two years in the senior championship.

Cheers BallyhaiseMan, no pressure or anything like  :P  ;D

You're right about that hoganstand crowd though. Read some very informative posts there today so just to catch up...

- Congratulations to Paul Galligan on his 1997 Ulster medal.

- Fair play to our two county representatives this year.

- And kudos to the lads on beating Cavan Gaels last month

:D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: shotstopper1 on November 23, 2007, 03:51:36 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on November 22, 2007, 06:25:16 PM
fully expect Ballinagh to win the Ulster Inter on Sunday,

Ballinagh are a good Senior league team and will be challenging the Gaels dominance within two years in the senior championship.

like ourselves they have constantly underacheived with the talent they have at their disposal.

It seems they have now got their act together.

Been out of the clique for a while,as havent been around our club scene since the Belturbet game,

who are the new men on the county panel etc etc



I agree that Ballinagh seem to be the team to challenge the gaels in the next few years.they have a very talented bunch of players at the moment.They had a good enough squad for the last few years with Gaynor,Gumley, Durkin,McInerney etc, but now with the introduction of the youngsters, the Reillys ,McDermotts,Smiths, etc., they have a team to hold their own in future years in the senior league & championship.
BHM , Don't think ye have underachieved , just haven't had a talented forward who could score 6/7 points or the equalivent in a game ever since big Gerry retired.


Best of luck to Ballinagh on Sunday
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on November 25, 2007, 09:26:46 PM
CONGRATULATIONS to Ballinagh, Ulster Intermediate Club Champions 2007,
Once again i was proven right with my prediction  :P  ;D
You've done your parish and your county proud lads.

Be wary of the Galway Champions,Paul Clancy's team though,they seem to be a tasty outfit.

Im guessing the semi final will be after Christmas,One game away from Croker.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on November 26, 2007, 09:29:24 AM
Very well done to ballinagh. Also well done to Killeshandra on beating the gaels in the division 3 league final. Great season for both clubs.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: LackenLegend on November 26, 2007, 10:47:15 AM
Fair play to yis lads. Doing your county proud!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on November 26, 2007, 11:16:31 AM
Enjoy the hangover Homer and well done to Ballinagh, at last a little bright spot in a dull season for Cavan football ;D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: shotstopper1 on November 26, 2007, 06:05:15 PM
Congrats to Ballinagh also.Their 6 starting forwards scored and also young Bun who came on as a sub got on the scoresheet

Report from the Indo,



Ballinagh battle to victory in cracking final
Ballinagh 2-11 Dunloy 2-3



Ballinagh won most of the battles in a real war of attrition to lift the Patrick McCully Cup after a cracking Ulster club IFC final clash with Dunloy at Omagh.


It was a day when the Cavan champions' big guns came good to blow a less than dynamic Dunloy out of the water in front of 1,226 fans in Healy Park.

Rising star Niall McDermott and former county ace Paul Galligan both chipped in with 1-2 while gamekeeper turned poacher Anthony Gaynor played the target-man role to a tee.

In contrast, Dunloy were as dismal up front as the afternoon itself.

Dunloy flattered to deceive and even the leg-up of a 2nd minute goal by Kevin McAllister failed to hoist them onto the same level as their more fluid opponents.

The lights remained stuck on green for Ballinagh as the first half progressed and a 21st minute belter by McDermott helped propel the would-be champions into a 1-5 to 1-0 lead.

Things got progressively better for the Saffrons with Paul Galligan cantering his way past a brace of powder-puff tackles before rattling the back of the Dunloy net from 12 metres.

The Glensmen from Dunloy seemed to have grabbed a lifeline in the 41st minute when Brendan McGarry goaled after great approach work by Brendan Marron, Kevin McQuillan and Jerome McAllister which cut Ballinagh's lead to a more manageable six points.

The Antrim champions desperately needed a third goal to get themselves out of jail but, instead, it was the leaders who finished with a flourish with Anthony Gaynor, Kevin Smith and Colin Gumley all pointing to seal an impressive, and ultimately comfortable, win for the Cavan men.

SCORERS -- Ballinagh: C Gumley (0-3, two frees), D Beard (0-1), D Finnegan; N McDermott (1-2), A Gaynor (0-2, one 45), P Galligan (1-2), K Smith (0-1). Dunloy: B McGarry (1-1), A McAllister (0-1), K McAllister (1-0), D McGarry (0-1).

Ballinagh-- D McCarthy; K McBride, P Carroll, A Duffy; N O'Reilly, P O'Reilly, D McInerney; A Maguire, C McDermott; C Gumley, D Beard, D Finnegan; N McDermott, A Gaynor, P Galligan. Subs: K Smith for D Finnegan; T Smith for D Beard; R Brennan for N McDermott; T Moore for P Galligan;C Brady for N McDermott.

Dunloy -- G McIlfatrick; C Brogan, C McKinley, D Webb; B Murphy, P Shivers, C Cunning; J McAleese, G McAllister; B McGarry, AMcAllister, D Birt; K McAllister, K McQuillan, Jn McFerran. Subs: C Cunning for D Birt; B Marron for P Shivers; J McAllister for B Murphy; D McGarry for J McAleese; S Boyle for C Brogan.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: CavanCola on November 30, 2007, 10:41:39 AM
I see the "Johnny-come-lately" Lads on bebo have stolen the campagin started on gaaboard.com to reintroduce the "nectar of the gods". I'm personally not impressed.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/northern_ireland/7118861.stm

Campaign to bring back Cavan Cola 

The cola's popularity soon spread throughout Ireland
Fans of an Irish soft drink have launched a campaign to get it back onto shop shelves.
Cavan Cola became a cult favourite during the 1980s and was stocked in stores across Ireland before being withdrawn.

However, the drive to resurrect it has been given impetus with a new online campaign.

Cavan Cola first hit the shelves in County Cavan in 1984 and its popularity soon spread throughout Ireland.


The dark cola had a frothy burnt brown head when poured and had a distinctive taste which apparently set it apart from similar drinks.

'Defines refreshment'


In the mid-1990s, owners Cavan Mineral Water began phasing out the drink, and by 2001 it had disappeared from most shops.

Hundreds of people have now backed the 'Bring Back Cavan Cola' campaign.

It is being spearheaded by Don Leahy on the social networking site Bebo.


T-shirts have been made backing the campaign

He said: "Cavan Cola is a forgotten symbol of what Cavan stood for - Cavan Cola defines refreshment, coolness and vintage Cavan culture.

"It has been sorely missed. No more Cavan children should have to grow up not being able to drink Cavan Cola from the brown bottle with a bag of Tayto (crisps)."

The drink is also featured on online encyclopedia Wikipedia and T-shirts have been made backing the campaign.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: LackenLegend on November 30, 2007, 02:43:34 PM
Quote
I see the "Johnny-come-lately" Lads on bebo have stolen the campagin started on gaaboard.com to reintroduce the "nectar of the gods". I'm personally not impressed.

Firstly, id like to say im sorry your campaign was hijacked but i suppose the end justifies the means as they say.

Secondly, im amused at what i heard on the sports bulletin (can't remember who or what radio station) that its great relief that the strike was averted and the playing season can go ahead. That would assume that it wouldn't go ahead if this current crop of players refused to play. The GAA wouldn't have crumbled because of this. Ok fair enough, in marketing the game it might lose out if players like the Gooch, for example, weren't available. However, there are so many players who could be unearthed to play at this level and may be well fit to do so. I believe that in this county it might not be such a bad thing. Current players are not playing to their potential and maybe its due to resting on their laurels and getting too comfortable in their status. Constant competition for places is whats needed and it improves everybody. I like the idea of this regional competition as it gives players a chance to show themselves playing alongside good quality players and good opposition. Where a star of a 'middle of the road team' may get a call in to the county and fail, he now has a chance to see how he can compete and cooperate with good quality players. Anyone agree/disagree?

Furthermore, i was impressed to see Lacken stalwarts and young supporting Ballinagh in their Ulster final win. I, for one, didn't go to the match to support them as im not a Ballinagh supporter but im happy they won and fair play to them. Doing the county proud. It's great to see the Lacken/Ballinagh hatred is over, although a healthy rivalry is maintained and who would wan't it any other way!  
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: shotstopper1 on November 30, 2007, 03:46:06 PM
QuoteCavan Cola first hit the shelves in County Cavan in 1984

Cavan Cola was around long before 1984,it's unlikely to be resurrected as its inventor has sadly passed away and (supposely) brought the recipe to his grave.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on November 30, 2007, 03:50:43 PM
Wouldn't it be great to resurrect the fizzy black stuff. We could all have brown rings around our lips again. We could ditch Kingspan and be sponsored by Cavan Cola and we could rename Breffni to Cavan Cola Breffni Park. I bet we could get a few extra gears out of Larry if he was put on a Cavan Cola diet but we'd have to keep it away from Mad Eddie or it would drive him Bananas altogether. If that lad brought it to his grave it is time to start exhuming...
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on December 01, 2007, 07:08:50 PM
Mad Eddie would be climbing the stand in Breffini if he got whiff of Cavan Cola.

See a list of new or old recalled players supposedly in with the county on Hoganstand,truth or fiction lads?

Eddie

Finbar Reily

Mark Johnson(Cornafean)

Austin Fitzpatrick(Killeshandra)

Gavin Doyle(Arva)

Niall Madden(Gowna)

and Messiour Gaynor.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on December 02, 2007, 11:57:32 AM
I can confirm that Mark Johnson and Austin Fitzpatrick are on there but I think U21 and seniors are training together and there will be a cull of the panel in a few weeks.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on December 03, 2007, 11:10:34 AM
Only getting chance to post now after a bit of a hectic week there.

Tremendous stuff from the Ballinagh lads last week, words do not express the joy and pride felt while watching them battle their way to victory in an Ulster final. They really did play like men possessed and Dunloy just didn't have any answer for them. The scenes on the pitch and back in Ballinagh on Sunday night will stay with me forever. Well the bits I can remember anyway  :P

The Leinster IFC final; Ashbourne/Donaghmore Vs Fingal Ravens takes place next weekend, with Ballinagh meeting the champions in February.


I can also confirm that Gaynor, Eddie and Finbar have indeed been recalled. Cian McDermott was also called in but, to my great disappointment, has turned down the opportunity.


A few u21 games played over the weekend:
Cavan Gaels will meet Castlerahen in this years Division 1 final after defeating Lurgan and Cuchulainns respectively.
Lavey overcame Cootehill to reach the Division 2 final where they await the winners of Ballinagh and Baileborough who meet next weekend.


Finally belated congratulations to Killeshandra, Cavan Gaels and Killygarry on their respective titles last weekend.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Hollow Man on December 03, 2007, 11:46:47 AM
Ballinagh U21s in div2? what a joke

i suppose thye only have podge, niall o reilly, kevin smith, niall mcdermott, paddy carroll, tom moore ...

ridiculous
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on December 03, 2007, 12:06:07 PM
Quote from: Hollow Man on December 03, 2007, 11:46:47 AM
Ballinagh U21s in div2? what a joke

i suppose thye only have podge, niall o reilly, kevin smith, niall mcdermott, paddy carroll, tom moore ...

ridiculous

While not wanting to sound cocky here, I'm very disappointed with that myself as I feel they could have given Division 1 a real go this year. Many of the players have already won 2 Div 2 u21 championships and the rest would have been involved in this years Div 2 minor and I'm sure they would prefer to just have a shot at Division 1.

Unfortunately the county board in their eternal wisdom, still deem it acceptable to base the u21 championships on senior status.

Having said that Division 2 success is by no means a sure thing, Lavey and Bailieborough are both good sides and although Ballinagh have some very high standard players we only have a panel of 17 including Terry Smith and David Finnegan who are currently on the injured list.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on December 05, 2007, 12:23:41 PM
Quote from: Homer on December 03, 2007, 11:10:34 AM
Only getting chance to post now after a bit of a hectic week there.

Tremendous stuff from the Ballinagh lads last week, words do not express the joy and pride felt while watching them battle their way to victory in an Ulster final. They really did play like men possessed and Dunloy just didn't have any answer for them. The scenes on the pitch and back in Ballinagh on Sunday night will stay with me forever. Well the bits I can remember anyway  :P

The Leinster IFC final; Ashbourne/Donaghmore Vs Fingal Ravens takes place next weekend, with Ballinagh meeting the champions in February.


I can also confirm that Gaynor, Eddie and Finbar have indeed been recalled. Cian McDermott was also called in but, to my great disappointment, has turned down the opportunity.


A few u21 games played over the weekend:
Cavan Gaels will meet Castlerahen in this years Division 1 final after defeating Lurgan and Cuchulainns respectively.
Lavey overcame Cootehill to reach the Division 2 final where they await the winners of Ballinagh and Baileborough who meet next weekend.


Finally belated congratulations to Killeshandra, Cavan Gaels and Killygarry on their respective titles last weekend.

Glad to see that sense has prevailed and Gaynor has been called back in. I wonder will they try him in the FF line? I hope that Finbarr has learnt his lesson too as I believe he has a lot to offer the county panel. Any others from lacken get called up?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on December 05, 2007, 01:48:07 PM
Quote from: Thastheball on December 05, 2007, 12:36:52 PM
Finbar O'Reilly has been called back into the county. What a f**king joke. He was vice captain and he did not turn up to represent Cavan in the senior championship two years ago. What a tool and what a disgrace that he is getting the opportunity to play for Cavan again. SHAME SHAME

I suppose I can't really argue with that considering the position I took on the USA 3 saga. The only thing I would say is that Finbarr was a good professional when it came to training etc previously. He was then made a scapegoat for that embarrasing defeat in the league to Waterford in Breffni. He should not have done what he did but I hesitantly say that I think he deserves a 2nd chance after being punished for it last year.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on December 05, 2007, 02:44:10 PM
Quote from: Thastheball on December 05, 2007, 01:56:17 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on December 05, 2007, 01:48:07 PM
Quote from: Thastheball on December 05, 2007, 12:36:52 PM
Finbar O'Reilly has been called back into the county. What a f**king joke. He was vice captain and he did not turn up to represent Cavan in the senior championship two years ago. What a tool and what a disgrace that he is getting the opportunity to play for Cavan again. SHAME SHAME

I suppose I can't really argue with that considering the position I took on the USA 3 saga. The only thing I would say is that Finbarr was a good professional when it came to training etc previously. He was then made a scapegoat for that embarrasing defeat in the league to Waterford in Breffni. He should not have done what he did but I hesitantly say that I think he deserves a 2nd chance after being punished for it last year.
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Made a scapegoat. He was on the team to hit frees, thats it, he is not good enough as a footballer and the frees were his ticket, he missed 6 very scorable frees in that game and a number throughout the league. He was not up to it and got his rewards for his poor performance. If he had scored half of what he missed we would have won that game..its that simple. I have no respect for the guy, he is guttless. Total lack of disrepect.If he did not want to be part of the panel, he should have went to the game and pulled the plugs afterwards, instead he choose to pay no respect to the county, the players and the supporters. Shame Shame

Again, I don't disagree to a point but I think if you are relying on a free taker to have a 100% record against Waterford in Breffni park in order to win then there was obviously plenty else wrong that day. I too was at the game and if Finbarr was to be dropped another 7/8 should have been dropped too. The fact that he was the only one means he was the scapegoat. I also think he is a decent footballer and can give a nice pass too on his day.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on December 05, 2007, 04:18:44 PM
Quote from: Thastheball on December 05, 2007, 02:47:53 PM
We beat Waterford by a small margin last season, what do you think was the main difference, the frees were scored. Also a fit mc Cabe, he had the flu in the previous waterford game

We beat them 3-12 to 1-11 in Waterford. Hardly a small margin, also McCabe had a pretty poor game against them if i remember correctly - in fact his form was not great this year untill we hit the championship.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Hollow Man on December 05, 2007, 05:14:55 PM
Wouldn't agree with that, thought Mccabe was class in the league against Sligo and Tipp

Shite v roscommon though
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on December 05, 2007, 09:43:26 PM
ah the Finbar Reily discussion.

heres what happened lads.

On a team outing before the Championship the team were staying in a Hotel and they didnt even bother their hole booking Finbar a room FFS,It was Finbar who was treated like shite,not the other way around
The Man missed 0 trainings for two years in a row with the county and its widely known he was probably the most committed player on the panel.
whatever your opinions of him as a footballer is up to you,but questioning his committment is rubbish IMO.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on December 06, 2007, 10:11:55 AM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on December 05, 2007, 09:43:26 PM
ah the Finbar Reily discussion.

heres what happened lads.

On a team outing before the Championship the team were staying in a Hotel and they didnt even bother their hole booking Finbar a room FFS,It was Finbar who was treated like shite,not the other way around
The Man missed 0 trainings for two years in a row with the county and its widely known he was probably the most committed player on the panel.
whatever your opinions of him as a footballer is up to you,but questioning his committment is rubbish IMO.

Would agree that I heard he was No 1 trainer. That is why I believe he deserves a 2nd chance but I also think he was wrong to walk as vice captain. Heopfully he will contribute this year and put it all behind him.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Cavanfan on December 06, 2007, 03:23:50 PM
Heard the Cavan lads did well last night for DCU, anyone at the game?? Good to see them playing well :)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on December 06, 2007, 04:41:31 PM
Report from Hoganstand. They have some team in fairness...

Cavan players to the fore in DCU Ryan Cup success
06 December 2007


Dublin City University were convincing winners of the Ryan Cup on Wednesday night, 5th of December under lights at the Silverbridge, Co. Armagh venue when they defeated Queen's University on a scoreline of 1-14 to 1-4. This victory is a real morale booster to the DCU side ahead of the Sigerson Cup competition next spring, and on this occasion they left down a marker that they are the side to beat in university football competitions this season.

The winners dominated the game from start to finish and led at the break by 0-7 to 1-2, with Cavan's Michael Lyng very much to the fore in most of their promising attacks.

The expected comeback from the current Sigerson Cup holders, Queen's never really materialised in the second-half as the DCU side now playing with poise and confidence ran out convincing winners in the end with Lyng scoring his sides only goal of the game in the 50th minute from almost 20 yards.

Indeed, only for some superb saves by the Queen's 'keeper F. Murphy his side could have gone down by a greater margin.

This was a great all-round team performance by the DCU side with Cavan players Dermot Sheridan (Mullahoran), Ronan Flanagan (Castlerahan) and Michael Lyng (Cavan Gaels) playing their parts to the full.

DCU - M. Savage; D. Sheridan, P. Andrews, D. Mooney; P. Howard, K. Leahy 0-2, one free and a '45', Ronan Flanagan; Dick Clerkin 0-1, K. O'Reilly 0-1; D. Keenan 0-1, Michael Lyng 1-1, C. Cregg 0-1; Shane O'Rourke 0-1, Conor Mortimer 0-4, one free, B. Sheridan.
Subs - M. McElhinney for C. Cregg; M. McNally for D. Keenan.

Queen's University - F. Murphy; P. Treanor, L. Howard, R. Dillon; D. O'Neill, J. O'Kane, J. Crozier; P. Courtney, C. Vernon; J. Grimley, M. O'Rourke, B. McArdle; Paul McComiskey 1-4, 2 frees, C. McGinn, M. Ward.
Subs - N. Bogue for O'Neill; C. Kielt for B. McArdle; H. Gallagher for P. Treanor; E. Hughes for C. Vernon.

Referee - Pat McEneaney from Monaghan.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on December 07, 2007, 08:24:38 AM
These games are good for building up lyngs fitness so hopefully he will be in top shape for us this year.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on December 10, 2007, 01:55:18 PM
I caught a glimpse at the Gaelic Life there last week, a decent write up about Conor Smith in it, Mickey Harte reckoned he was the most naturally talented player he'd ever seen when he came up against him with Ballygawley against Virginia in vocational schools football a few years ago. He's with the U21s this year, just 18, supposed to have a good partnership with Eugene Keating although I couldn't really see it against Down in the minors last year - all's I remember is a string of wides from a team well on top. Typical Cavan minor stuff.

Has anybody any info on how the county teams are gathering pace for 2008, and more to the point, anyone know anything about Keogan's new right hand man from Tyrone, haven't heard a thing baout him since he was appointed.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on December 10, 2007, 02:44:46 PM
Conor Smith is indeed a very talented footballer, serious pace and a great eye for goal but I've seen him turn out some very ordinary performances on a regular basis for instance the Down match that you mentioned and the Donegal semi-final in 06. However his All-Ireland accomplishments with Virginia vocational school would suggest that this is hardly solely down to big-match syndrome. To be honest he strikes me as the type of fella that could let it all go to his head and said article could be the last thing he needs.

Ballinagh u21s overcame Bailieborough to reach the Division 2 u21 final on Saturday (1-9 to 2-2). It was a hard fought game in desperate conditions but the young saffrons did just enough to ensure another meeting with Lavey in the final. There has been some real rivalry between the two sides over the past few years....

Year - CUP - Rnd - Winner
2002 - u21 SF Lavey AET
2003 - u21 SF Ballinagh
2004 - u21 Final Ballinagh
2005 - IFC QF Lavey
2005 - u21 Final Ballinagh
2007 - IFC SF Ballinagh
2007 - IFC Final Ballinagh
2007 - u21 Final ? ? ?

Ballinagh will meet Dublin supremes Fingal Ravens who defeated Meath champions Ashbourne/Donaghmore yesterday (1-9 to 0-9) in the Leinster IFC final.

Haven't heard much to be honest regarding the county scene, I do know that our lot aren't fully joining the panel until they are finished in the All-Ireland series, well at least that's the plan anyway.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on December 10, 2007, 04:31:52 PM
All I heard was that the training was savage enough and that they went down to the curragh last weekend to do an assault course. The McKenna cup games at the start of January will tell a tale or two.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on December 10, 2007, 11:45:26 PM
Is Lorcan Mulvey still on the panel? He'd be some handful if we got him fit and rearing to go, big men like him are ironically 'thin' on the ground in Cavan.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on December 13, 2007, 10:31:47 AM
Is there a rule starting that teams are not aloud to train durning November and December.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on December 13, 2007, 11:13:01 AM
There is a rule that county teams aren't allowed train in those months. However, what most counties do is give out training programs to the panel members for gym work. Thats what Cavan are at anyway.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on December 13, 2007, 11:29:06 AM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on December 13, 2007, 11:13:01 AM
There is a rule that county teams aren't allowed train in those months. However, what most counties do is give out training programs to the panel members for gym work. Thats what Cavan are at anyway.

I think they are doing quiet a bit more than that.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on December 13, 2007, 11:44:49 AM
Lads
the ruling is no County Teams are allowed play games against Outside opposition in November and December.
There is no rules on training.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on December 13, 2007, 11:55:09 AM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on December 13, 2007, 11:44:49 AM
Lads
the ruling is no County Teams are allowed play games against Outside opposition in November and December.
There is no rules on training.

Im sure i seen some where that they couldn't but i must have been wrong.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on December 13, 2007, 12:08:31 PM
Quote from: cavan4ever on December 13, 2007, 11:55:09 AM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on December 13, 2007, 11:44:49 AM
Lads
the ruling is no County Teams are allowed play games against Outside opposition in November and December.
There is no rules on training.

Im sure i seen some where that they couldn't but i must have been wrong.

know a fair few lads from other county panels and they have been back in Training collectively since early November.
If there is a rule for training,EVERYONES breaking it.  :-\
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: LackenLegend on December 13, 2007, 05:10:55 PM
I've been away for a while but i see Finbar is not too popular here   :D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on December 13, 2007, 09:26:56 PM
Ach in fairness he's worth a place on the panel, but if he had legitimate grievances about how he was being treated, running off and sulking and having his club bring it up at a county board meeting and so on, wasn't exactly the way to go about it. He should have showed his doubters on the pitch, he's just lost everyone's respect the other way. Or am I just being all idealistic again...
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: LackenLegend on December 14, 2007, 12:40:48 PM
The fact is he has a chance now and we should just wait and see if he's up to the task. If he goes and plays savage al year there won't be another word about the past. Cavan supporters, like many others are a very fickle bunch.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: RONAN on December 14, 2007, 01:31:51 PM
Following a request by the family of the late Emon Coleman, a special day of celebration to mark the life of the man himself is currently been organised for Saturday 7th June 2008, the first anniverasry of his death. On the day there will be a game between Derrys 93 All Ireland winning team and an Irish select of past and present players who played for and against Eamon.

Later in the evening an Informal Dinner will take place in a specialised marquee on the premises of St Treas Ballymaguigan Co Derry, which of course was Eamons home club. Cost of this event is £1000 per table, but in the event that you may not wish to avail of a table a donation of any kind would be very much appreciated.

The charities being supported which were close to Eamon are: Marie Curie Cancer, GOAL, Adoption UK, SMA and Foyle Hospice.

To book a table or make a voluntary contribution you can contact myself on 07875 400 839 or email me on: ronan@moltools.co.uk, or contact Jim Crozier on 07841100141 or email: jimgcrozier@msn.com. Jims address is 246 Shore Road, Magherafelt, Co Derry, BT45 6LH.

Any contributions via cheque can be made out to "Eamon Coleman Memorial Fund"

Many thanks.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on December 14, 2007, 11:08:21 PM
Finbar is a good player,but one thing we lack is Blistering speed in attack which we had from 96 even up to a few years ago with younger versions of Larry and Jayo.we all remember Jayo roasting the Tyrone full back line with speed in Ulster Final in 2001 and Larry when he was younger aswell.
when i look at the collection of forwards now,some very good football players but none which would have a corner back up all night beforehand worrying about. which is what speed does.
anyone agree? sorry had to start some sort of discussion the thread was dead.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on December 15, 2007, 01:58:15 PM
It's funny you should mention it, because Finbar was actually as quick as anything we had. He seldom ever went full pelt though, but the few times I saw him tearing after a ball I was very surprised at his turn of pace.

Remember Raphael Rogers? Raphael the Rabbit I used to call him - run Raphael run. Frighteningly quick but always ended up somewhere he hadn't intended and invariably lost the ball.

Of the current crop, I'd say Mackey is fairly quick and Jelly too but I don't think either are involved now.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on December 17, 2007, 12:20:20 PM
Castlerahen 2:8
Cavan Gaels 0:3

A fine performance from the rahen brought them there second title in as many years. They looked a much hungrier outfit from the start and never let the gaels get into second gear. Ronan Flanagan was fully deserved of the man of the match award.

Lavey 1:10
Ballinagh 2:6

Bitterly disappointed to lose this in the manner that we did. After dominating the game for long periods Ballinagh were in front by 7 with 15 mins to go and began to slowly let Lavey back into the game, then as the game entered added time with 3 points the margin Lavey were awarded a free which they duly dropped into the square to be met by a Lavey fist and it was all square. The next kick-out broke about 30 yards from our own goal a Lavey player was fouled in the panic to retrieve the ball and man of the match Kevin Brady obliged with the last kick of the game. Congratulations all the same to Lavey and fair play to them for never giving up.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on December 17, 2007, 02:17:23 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on December 14, 2007, 11:08:21 PM
Finbar is a good player,but one thing we lack is Blistering speed in attack which we had from 96 even up to a few years ago with younger versions of Larry and Jayo.we all remember Jayo roasting the Tyrone full back line with speed in Ulster Final in 2001 and Larry when he was younger aswell.
when i look at the collection of forwards now,some very good football players but none which would have a corner back up all night beforehand worrying about. which is what speed does.
anyone agree? sorry had to start some sort of discussion the thread was dead.



I would take a different view to this. I think in the past we have let this pace issue too much into our game. We have persisted with fast players that like to run into corners. They are great against a slow back but crowd them out or put a speedy back on them and its game over. Cavans forward tactic has been to try an isolate a fast forward 1 to 1 on a back (pretty much impossible in todays tactical game), and tell that forward to turn, beat the man and score the point. That tactic just does not work anymore. What we need are some more Pierson type forwards that just use a bit of trickery to move the back 1 step in the wrong direction and kick it over, without having to burst past at the speed of light. I would put Gooch, Paddy Bradley etc in this catagory. Then we need a big ball winner that can win 50 50 balls and has the brains to feed oncoming forwards. The final thing is to then teach these players when and when not to shoot, how to play as an attacking unit, to give the ball to the man in a better position. I wouldn't get hung up on the speed issue. Look at our FF line in 1997. Jayo, King and Damian Reilly. Some speed but mostly intelligence.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on December 17, 2007, 02:56:05 PM
Look at our FF line in 1997. Jayo, King and Damian Reilly. Some speed but mostly intelligence.

What about larry and cahill.  None of the 3 u named played for to long in full forward line that year.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on December 17, 2007, 03:28:37 PM
I meant in the final that year. Cahill was strong, fast and powerful but not too inteligent or skillful.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on December 17, 2007, 06:04:35 PM
Pierson annoys me though getting caught behind his man too often.
Definetely not all your forwards have to be speed merchants,you need the intelligent playmakers(Lyng) the very good ball winners(Cullivan)the deadly accurate scorers from play(Pierson and Jelly,sometimes!!) ,but i think it helps if one or two are lightening quick.Gives the Opposite backs something extra to think about.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on December 17, 2007, 08:36:19 PM
Another gripe of mine is the lack of players we have that could score from 40/45 meters out. McCabe is really the only one. Mad Eddie can do it too sometimes.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on December 24, 2007, 08:46:47 PM
Happy Christmas to ye all lads :)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on January 02, 2008, 11:16:41 AM
Happy new year lads! I'm buried here with work so only have time for a rushed post.

Cavan u21s had a challenge at the weekend, I've no time for a report but heres the team and some comments.

1. Coleman (Lavey) - Decent kick-outs, could not do much about either goal.
2. Damien Reilly (Belturbet)
3. Rory Dunne (Redhills) - played quite well despite his man scoring 2-1
4.Sean McCormack (Ballyhaise)
5. Tomas Reilly (Killeshandra)
6. Dane O'Dowd (Drumlane)
7. Barry Watters (Drung) - good game
8. Givney/Gibney ?? (Munterconnaught)
9. Raymond Galligan (Lacken)
10. Pauric Smith (Castlerahen)
11. Austin Fitzpatrick (Killeshandra) - very quiet
12. Colm Smith (Cootehill)
13. ??
14. Enda McHugh (Shannon Gaels) - snuffed out of everything
15. Martin Dunne (Cavan Gaels) - didn't want to know

The seniors also had a friendly against Fermanagh, didn't hear much from it but apparently they played 2 halves but played their subs in the second half. Cavan won the first half well but got hammered in the second. Didn't hear the exact team but..

Pierson started but was taken off after one minute, apparently for the lazy manner in which he ran after the first ball in.
Podge was CHB and McKeever CHF
James Clarke (Killinkere) started!
Mad Eddie started
Walsh played midfield and was sent off for punching (well he wasn't sent off a such but the referee had him substituted).

Oh and he didn't play but Johnstone is back in, yet no sign of a re-call for Martin Cahill.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on January 02, 2008, 11:23:31 AM
I heard they were playing. The U21 game was against Ballinagh wasn't it? What was the final score? Pierson took off after 1 minute!! I am surprised he is on the panel at all but maybe that won't last too long, his attitude really stinks by all accounts. James Clarke, the speed demon with no steering wheel! Maybe they can get a bit on intelligence into his game and he might be a dangerous player. Anyone heading to Breffni next w'end against Monaghan in Mckenna cup. I see queens beat them last w'end by a point in Clones. Might make the trip myself and see who is playing.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on January 02, 2008, 11:36:53 AM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on January 02, 2008, 11:23:31 AM
I heard they were playing. The U21 game was against Ballinagh wasn't it? What was the final score?

Was going to keep the opposition quiet but yes it was Ballinagh, the match finished 3-11 to 1-10 to Ballinagh after a very poor performance from the u21s albeit without their best players Cullivan, Flanagan, Finbar Jordan and Martin Reilly.

Quote from: mylestheslasher on January 02, 2008, 11:23:31 AM
Pierson took off after 1 minute!! I am surprised he is on the panel at all but maybe that won't last too long, his attitude really stinks by all accounts. James Clarke, the speed demon with no steering wheel! Maybe they can get a bit on intelligence into his game and he might be a dangerous player. Anyone heading to Breffni next w'end against Monaghan in Mckenna cup. I see queens beat them last w'end by a point in Clones. Might make the trip myself and see who is playing.

I really don't see any hope in Clarke he's just a headless chicken that doesn't even do the business for Killenkere these days.

As for the match this weekend, yeah I'll be there but I've mixed hopes for Cavan.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Cavanfan on January 02, 2008, 12:09:34 PM
Just wondering can the college lads play this weekend for Cavan? I don't think their game is until midweek so this is probably a yes. If not then they are missing a few lads, Flanagan, Lyng, Sherdian, Johnston, Hannon etc.....

Can't believe the new season is upon us already......
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Mr. Pain on January 02, 2008, 04:06:27 PM
Hello to all. I am Mr. Pain. Here is my rant. The turkey is only being recycled now and it's time for more football. It's great but I'm not looking forward to the heavy winter training sessions. But as i say myself; no Pain no gain. Has anyone seen the Nicholas Walsh interview on Hoganstand? Talk about a space filler! Is he not supposed to be out teaching kangaroos how to play the spoons? If not then it was worthwhile him starting a diary in the Cavan Post. Is he supposed to be the football guru of Cavan? Discuss
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on January 02, 2008, 05:11:02 PM
Quote from: Mr. Pain on January 02, 2008, 04:06:27 PM
Hello to all. I am Mr. Pain. Here is my rant. The turkey is only being recycled now and it's time for more football. It's great but I'm not looking forward to the heavy winter training sessions. But as i say myself; no Pain no gain. Has anyone seen the Nicholas Walsh interview on Hoganstand? Talk about a space filler! Is he not supposed to be out teaching kangaroos how to play the spoons? If not then it was worthwhile him starting a diary in the Cavan Post. Is he supposed to be the football guru of Cavan? Discuss

Welcome Mr Pain. You sound like BA from the A team. ;) Anyway, that truly was a load of shite on Walsh. The amount of adjectives used to describe him was ridiculous and also mostly inaccurate. I suppose it is silly season and no one has much to say until the games start again.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on January 02, 2008, 05:32:54 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on January 02, 2008, 05:11:02 PM
ridiculous and also mostly inaccurate.

Well if they'd included those two anywhere along the line they'd have been off to a good start. :P
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on January 02, 2008, 07:39:12 PM
Quote from: cavanmaniac on January 02, 2008, 05:32:54 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on January 02, 2008, 05:11:02 PM
ridiculous and also mostly inaccurate.

Well if they'd included those two anywhere along the line they'd have been off to a good start. :P

:D :D :D

And I agree, absolute drivel!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: LackenLegend on January 03, 2008, 02:15:52 PM
Anyone know the who is managing the Gaels next year? Any new appointments lately?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Cavanfan on January 03, 2008, 03:25:38 PM
Rumour on the Hoganstand message board says it's Joe Kernan. It's not the first time I have heard it either. 
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on January 03, 2008, 05:17:58 PM
Quote from: Homer on January 02, 2008, 11:16:41 AM
Happy new year lads! I'm buried here with work so only have time for a rushed post.

Cavan u21s had a challenge at the weekend, I've no time for a report but heres the team and some comments.

1. Coleman (Lavey) - Decent kick-outs, could not do much about either goal.
2. Damien Reilly (Belturbet)
3. Rory Dunne (Redhills) - played quite well despite his man scoring 2-1
4.Sean McCormack (Ballyhaise)
5. Tomas Reilly (Killeshandra)
6. Dane O'Dowd (Drumlane)
7. Barry Watters (Drung) - good game
8. Givney/Gibney ?? (Munterconnaught)
9. Raymond Galligan (Lacken)
10. Pauric Smith (Castlerahen)
11. Austin Fitzpatrick (Killeshandra) - very quiet
12. Colm Smith (Cootehill)
13. ??
14. Enda McHugh (Shannon Gaels) - snuffed out of everything
15. Martin Dunne (Cavan Gaels) - didn't want to know

The seniors also had a friendly against Fermanagh, didn't hear much from it but apparently they played 2 halves but played their subs in the second half. Cavan won the first half well but got hammered in the second. Didn't hear the exact team but..

Pierson started but was taken off after one minute, apparently for the lazy manner in which he ran after the first ball in.
Podge was CHB and McKeever CHF
James Clarke (Killinkere) started!
Mad Eddie started
Walsh played midfield and was sent off for punching (well he wasn't sent off a such but the referee had him substituted).

Oh and he didn't play but Johnstone is back in, yet no sign of a re-call for Martin Cahill.

heard Forde was jawing at the referee and was taken off before he was sent off aswell)when will they ever learn,
Pierson taken off after 1 minute :o  :D , anyone else find that hilarious,that must be some sort of record for quick substitution with no injury involved.
Podge should be either centre half or full back on that team,with Gaynor if he can control himself,at the other central position in defence.
Heard Declan Gaffney the towering Crosserlough midfielder played quite well,Not very mobile,but huge with good hands.

as for the under 21's
As homer said its only a shadow team compared to what it will be in a month or two.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on January 03, 2008, 06:27:05 PM
I believe this was the team that started against Fermanagh the last day.

1 James Reilly
2 Michael Brides
3 John Clarke
4 Keith Fannin
5 Martin Reilly
6 Padraic O'Reilly
7 John McCutcheon
8 Nicolas Walsh
9 Declan Gaffney
10 James Clarke
11 Mark McKeever
12 Anthony Forde
13 Eddie Reilly
14 Gerald Pierson
15 Jason Reilly

Clarke at full-back and young McCutcheon are suppose to have played well.
I've also heard that Johnny Crowe is not in this year but I don't know has he opted out or been dropped.

BallyhaiseMan how is Cullivans recovery coming along? Is he hoping to be fit for the u21 Championship?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on January 03, 2008, 09:00:57 PM
hes back running and hes been lifting weights in The Gym for the last couple of months
Dont think he will be cleared to play Football for a few months yet though.
Under 21 championship would be touch and go id say..but nothing would suprise me,Hes an absolute animal.

John Clarke has probably been one of the best full backs in senior championship for past 3/4 years,shame they have left it until hes around the 30 mark to bring him in.
McCutcheon i dont know,ive seen the best and worst of him.
Gary Fernacombe of Drumalee or Declan McCabe of C'Lough or Alan Clarke of kingscourt id have before him at wing half back.
As you said i cant see James Clarke making it.

Hows Ballinaghs preparations for the all ireland going homer?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on January 04, 2008, 10:55:55 AM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on January 03, 2008, 09:00:57 PM
hes back running and hes been lifting weights in The Gym for the last couple of months
Dont think he will be cleared to play Football for a few months yet though.
Under 21 championship would be touch and go id say..but nothing would suprise me,Hes an absolute animal.

John Clarke has probably been one of the best full backs in senior championship for past 3/4 years,shame they have left it until hes around the 30 mark to bring him in.
McCutcheon i dont know,ive seen the best and worst of him.
Gary Fernacombe of Drumalee or Declan McCabe of C'Lough or Alan Clarke of kingscourt id have before him at wing half back.
As you said i cant see James Clarke making it.

Hows Ballinaghs preparations for the all ireland going homer?

Well it must be said they're training hard but its difficult to know how the momentum will hold up over the break.

Fingal Ravens are suppose to be a serious outfit who, like ourselves, have been knocking on the door of an intermediate championship for a few years. Although one could presume a marginally better standard in Dublin.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Mr. Pain on January 04, 2008, 03:32:35 PM
Has this Mr. Keogan guy seen a match in his life? That's some panel he has for the McKenna cup match. Crazy! Not enough big guys in there. Who is gonna deliver the Pain? Whatever big guy is in there is either at the end of his career with not much county experience or else bull**it. Gaynor will do. Bring back Morris and drag Trevor Crowe in. Break some bones. Our little weiners are no match for the Northerners come championship. Where is our little corner backs Terry Hyland and Joey Jordan? Terriers to the last. Should be given a shot. We need Pearson fully fit because he is our best hope in the forwards. McCabe fully fit is our No1 priority. Best player in Cavan this year. Some of the lads brought in wouldn't make it into a top Div1 team so why should they make the county team? Fitz, Doyle, M. Johnston etc. Thats my rant!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on January 04, 2008, 03:36:38 PM
Can you post the panel Mr. Pain?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Cavanfan on January 04, 2008, 03:50:20 PM
That was some rant Mr. Pain, though I just have to say a few things.

Firstly, we're only in Jan and I'd say some of the panel might change. Sure can Gaynor play this weekend with his clubs upcoming match? I don't think any off the college boys will be playing either, so this leaves out Hannon, Flangan, Lyng, Sherdian to name but a few which is unfortunate. U say Pierson is the only guy for the forward line, I have no questions over his ability he is a great footballer, but is he committed to the job at hand. And if we get Jelly and Lyng fully fit this year it would be a good forward line. Lets give some of these boys a chance. I don't know what the story with Crowe is but he will be a loos if he doesn't come back into the panel. I don't really think you can judge how the season will go anyway on the McKenna Cup. Look at Micky Harte he's starting 7 debutants aswell. 
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Mr. Pain on January 04, 2008, 05:26:12 PM
Quote from: Homer on January 04, 2008, 03:36:38 PM
Can you post the panel Mr. Pain?
It's in the Celt. Don't be lazy.

Fair point Cavan Fan. Gaynor is named in the panel. I hope Pearson commits because he is a class act when he plays well, which is most of the time. Jelly hasn't got the bottle or isn't tough enough. Lyng needs to be fully, and i mean fully, fit if he is to be an addition. There is talk of pulling colleges out of the cup again so hopefully we wont have this problem again. I guarantee Mickey Harte's debutants are of great quality, three i think from senior championship winning team Drumore. Trevor Crowe is not interested. Johnny Crowe might be injured, also a loss. McKenna Cup is about preparing for the league. A development panel is what a lot of these lads should be on, not giving them false hope and temporary big heads. Rant over!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Cavanfan on January 04, 2008, 06:25:49 PM
Mr. Pain I totally agree with your idea of a developmental panel! 
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on January 04, 2008, 08:35:14 PM
What worries me most is that the team against Fermanagh - a development team, if you like - doesn't have one new forward on it. James Clarke being the only suprise and is unlikely to be much of a help later on. McKeever is not a ctr forward in my opinion, Jason is a impact sub for me, Forde is a becoming a liability (mounthing, fouling) + has lost something as he got older and didn't really get any wiser to compensate. Pierson does not appear to be committed. Eddie is mad. Where is Finbarr Reilly, we were all discussing him being recalled and no sign off him. Surely to god there are a couple of new forwards that could be tried out or were they all playing with the U21's?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on January 05, 2008, 02:43:24 PM
Quote from: Mr. Pain on January 04, 2008, 05:26:12 PM
Quote from: Homer on January 04, 2008, 03:36:38 PM
Can you post the panel Mr. Pain?
It's in the Celt. Don't be lazy.

Wasn't being lazy I just didn't have access to a copy of the Celt til today.

Anyway for anybody else that might be in a similar situation, here is the McKenna Cup panel as per Celt

Micheal Brides (St. Oliver Plunketts)
James Carolan (Lavey)
Alan Clarke (Kingscourt)
James Clarke (Killenkere)
Mark Cunningham (Swanlinbar)
Micheal Cunningham (Swanlinbar)
Gavin Doyle (Arva)
Rory Donohoe (Belturbet)
Keith Fannin (Drumgoon)
Austin Fitzpatrick (Killeshandra)
Anthony Forde (Cavan Geals)
Anthony Gaynor (Ballinagh)
Declan Gaffney (Crosserlough)
Colm Hannon (Drumgoon)
Mark Johnston (Cornafean)
Niall Madden (Gowna)
Lorcan Mulvey (Butlersbridge)
John McCabe (Munterconnaught)
Ryan McCormack (Kingscourt)
John McCutcheon (Cootehill)
Mark McKeever (Gowna)
James O'Reilly (Drung)
Finbar O'Reilly (Lacken)
Eddie O'Reilly (Mullahoran)
Padraic O'Reilly (Ballinagh)
Jason Reilly (Belturbet)
Martin Reilly (Killygarry)
Darren Rabbitte (Cavan Geals)
David Rooney (Bailieborough)


The article also mentions that Larry Reilly (must be back), Anthony Forde (even though he is named in the panel), Cathal Collins and Nicolas Walsh will continue to be part of the panel despite not taking part in this competition.

Sean Johnston, Michael Hannon, Mícheal Lyng and Ronan Flanagan would all be involved with college sides.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on January 05, 2008, 02:56:10 PM
Quote from: Homer on January 05, 2008, 02:43:24 PM
Quote from: Mr. Pain on January 04, 2008, 05:26:12 PM
Quote from: Homer on January 04, 2008, 03:36:38 PM
Can you post the panel Mr. Pain?
It's in the Celt. Don't be lazy.

Wasn't being lazy I just didn't have access to a copy of the Celt til today.

Anyway for anybody else that might be in a similar situation, here is the McKenna Cup panel as per Celt

Micheal Brides (St. Oliver Plunketts)
James Carolan (Lavey)
Alan Clarke (Kingscourt)
James Clarke (Killenkere)
Mark Cunningham (Swanlinbar)
Micheal Cunningham (Swanlinbar)
Gavin Doyle (Killeshandra)
Rory Donohoe (Belturbet)
Keith Fannin (Drumgoon)
Austin Fitzpatrick (Killeshandra)
Anthony Forde (Cavan Geals)
Anthony Gaynor (Ballinagh)
Declan Gaffney (Crosserlough)
Colm Hannon (Drumgoon)
Mark Johnston (Cornafean)
Niall Madden (Gowna)
Lorcan Mulvey (Butlersbridge)
John McCabe (Munterconnaught)
Ryan McCormack (Kingscourt)
John McCutcheon (Cootehill)
Mark McKeever (Gowna)
James O'Reilly (Drung)
Finbar O'Reilly (Lacken)
Eddie O'Reilly (Mullahoran)
Padraic O'Reilly (Ballinagh)
Jason Reilly (Belturbet)
Martin Reilly (Killygarry)
Darren Rabbitte (Cavan Geals)
David Rooney (Bailieborough)


The article also mentions that Larry Reilly (must be back), Anthony Forde (even though he is named in the panel), Cathal Collins and Nicolas Walsh will continue to be part of the panel despite not taking part in this competition.

Sean Johnston, Michael Hannon, Mícheal Lyng and Ronan Flanagan would all be involved with college sides.

we cant blame them for not experimenting anyway.
team id name tommorow out of that would be

1.James Carolan
2.Colm Hannon
3.Anthony Gaynor
4.Keith Fannin
5.Alan Clarke
6.Padraig Reily
7.David Rooney
8.Declan Gaffney
9.Lorcan Mulvey
10.Niall Madden
11.Rory Donohoe
12.Austin Fitzpartick
13.Ryan McCormack
14.Eddie Reily
15.John McCabe

In my opinion theres no point playing the likes of Forde,Jason Reily,Mark McKeever, Miller in the McKenna Cup, we should use the 3 games to experiment.

PS Homer i dont think  Arva Gavin Doyle would be too happy with you saying hes a leaguer  :D  ;D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on January 05, 2008, 03:21:47 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on January 05, 2008, 02:56:10 PM
PS Homer i dont think  Arva Gavin Doyle would be too happy with you saying hes a leaguer  :D  ;D

Ah sure they're all the same around that neck of the woods   ;D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on January 06, 2008, 05:30:10 PM
Cavan 0-15 Monaghan 1-09

Well lads good start to the season

Team was

1.James Carolan... Kickouts good,couldnt do anything for the goal. 7

2.Colm Hannon...good to see him back,didnt look very fit which is understandable,taken to the cleaners a few times,but will take him a while to get back to the speed of county football. 6

3.John Clarke... Good game but his lack of pace will be his undoing as the year progresses im afraid. 7

4.Keith Fannin... very good game, Monaghan brought his man out into the half forward line,Not the smartest thing to do as Fannin played a lot more football than him. 8

5.John McCutcheon..very good  for his first competitive game,Mobile,Gutsy and done all the simple things right... 7

6.Padraig Reily...Outstanding first at centre half,then when he went back to mark Freeman when he came on..Mark him down for the CHB position and forget about it for 10 years. 8

7.David Rooney...very quiet,didnt get into the game much really. 6

8.Declan Gaffney..some very good fielding,competed for everything,not very mobile or fit looking,id be interested if County Training could bring him on in that department,if so look out. 7

9.Mark McKeever....Although out of place at MF,McKeever for me was  MOM, went through a mountain of work,and his delivery into the forwards and ball carrying was
outstanding. 9

10.James Clarke...made a few dashing runs but other than that was quiet, 6

11.Rory Donohoe...made some bad decisions,and held onto the ball too long,but worked very hard and kicked the insurance point near the end.Will Improve. 7

12.Martin Reily...possibely the most naturally talented football player on the team,great workrate,and kicked 1/2 very good points from play and frees. 8

13.Jason Reily.....scored 4 points,didnt look fit like the majority of the team,but worked very very hard and always looked dangerous whenever he got to the ball. 8

14.Eddie Reily,missed some guilt edged frees and shots from on front of the posts,then proceeded to kick a few outrageous scores,Workrate was outstanding as always,Gives us that ball winning ability in the FF line. 7

15.Ryan McCormack....The most impressive newcomer, took over the free duties from Eddie and with the exception of one in the second half,kicked them over from all angles.Also kicked one fantastic one from play,Again good workrate and movement. 8.

Subs
Alan Clarke for Colm Hannon----Decent enough game,put himself about. 6

Barry Watters for David Rooney--very good going forward but suspect in defence.Migth be a better wing forward,looked impressive though for someone making their debut at Senior Inter County Level. 7

Nicholas Walsh for Eddie Reily----Good Targetman,set up the last 2 points for Donohoe and Jayo i think by knocking the ball down,Ruffled a few feathers in the Monaghan back-line when he came on,Pushing and shoving etc  :D

Conor Smith for Ryan McCormack--not on long enough to rate

Austin Fitzpatrick for ????? near the end

Good start,anyone going down to Belfast Wednesday Night(i wont be due to work) write a report.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on January 06, 2008, 08:03:19 PM
Thanks for the report. I got called away at the last minute and couldn't attend. I am glad to see a coupld of new forwards in the teams doing well (as per my last post). It is always nice to get the better of Monaghan. Won't be able to make it wednesday with work but a win there will put us in the semis and give us another game which is good. Queens will be hard bet though.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on January 06, 2008, 10:01:02 PM
Very greatful to you for the report BH man, that's alot more and better info than we'll get in any paper over the next week anyway. Ta very much.

I recall us playing some mighty stuff against Derry this time last year, Michael Cunningham getting MOM and disappearing afterwards. These January games come with a health warning as regards serious analysis but sure a win is a win and a win against Monaghan is twice as nice. And we're trying out a few lads as well, if three or four of them stick we'd have to be happy and hopefully we'll avoid relegation at the least this year.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on January 07, 2008, 09:07:25 AM
From Indo...

Cavan victory ends Monaghan hopes
Cavan 0-15 Monaghan 1-9
Dr McKenna Cup
Monday January 07 2008


CAVAN'S first game of 2008 was marked by a victory over old rivals Monaghan at Kingspan Breffni Park. The result meant the elimination of Monaghan from the competition as this was their second defeat, but signalled progress for Cavan and team manager Donal Keogan.


More than 2,000 fans watched as managers Seamus McEnaney and Keogan chose to experiment, Monaghan starting just two regulars while Cavan included five.

Cavan gradually got on top and points from Rory Donohoe, Jason Reilly, Martin Reilly and Ryan McCormack put them 0-6 to 0-2 ahead by the 26th minute.

Five minutes before half-time a shot from Monaghan's Daniel McNally was deflected to the net by Owen Duffy and Cavan's lead was cut to one point. Cavan recovered and led at half-time, 0-9 to 1-2.

Two points from Daniel McNally reduced Cavan's advantage to two points but the home side responded with points from Eddie Reilly, Jason Reilly and two from Martin Reilly to lead by six points with 15 minutes left.

Although Monaghan made a big effort in the closing stages, Cavan always looked as if they had something in reserve and a three-point win was thoroughly deserved.

A satisfied Keogan said: "Any time you beat Monaghan it is a good day. We have been training hard over the winter months and have been doing some early Sunday morning stints at 8 o'clock. We have done six or seven of these sessions."

Scorers -- Cavan: J Reilly 0-4, M Reilly and R McCormack 0-3 each, R Donohoe and E Reilly 0-2 each, M McKeever 0-1. Monaghan: O Duffy 1-1, T Freeman 0-3, D McNally 0-2, L McAdam, C McManus and G McQuaid 0-1 each.

Cavan: J Carolan, C Hannon, John Clark, K Fannin, J McCutcheon, P O'Reilly, D Rooney, D Gaffney, M McKeever, James Clark, R Donohoe, M Reilly, R McCormack, E Reilly, J Reilly. Subs: M Lyng for D Rooney 43, A Clark for C Hannon 44, N Walsh for E Reilly 59, C Smith for R McCormack 68, A Fitzpatrick for J Clark 70.

Monaghan: P McBennett, C Flanaghan, C Hughes, M Duffy, G McEneaney, S Mulligan, S Fitzpatrick, J Kingham, M Daly, M McIlroy, L McAdam, C McManus, O Duffy, D Mone, D McNally. Subs: J P Mone for J Kingham 24, G McQuaid for S Fitzpatrick and R Woods for M Duffy half-time, T Freeman for M McIlroy 45, D McArdle for D McNally 49.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on January 07, 2008, 10:56:58 AM
Was very suprised to see Barry Watters coming on yesterday our management still haven't learned their lesson on how to treat the young players, but id say he was only there beacuse of injuries and the other lads with college teams.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on January 07, 2008, 11:38:00 AM
Great report there HaiseMan. A few of my own comments to add

1. James Carolan - maybe could of been nearer the post for the goal but would still have been difficult to stop.

2. Colm Hannon - looked fairly skeptic to me but thankfully this went unnoticed to Monaghan who failed to target his man enough. As BallyhaiseMan said looked rather unfit.

3. John Clarke - had a decent debut at full-back but I did notice that every time a ball came into his man he would fly in, in an effort to break the ball away and end up on his arse. This tactic worked ok yesterday as he did achieve in either breaking the ball or pushing his man out but I can only imagine what the likes of Benny Coulter would do to him in the same situation. Loves to hit a shoulder though.

4. Keith Fannin - as BHM mentioned played well especially when he followed his man out the field.

5. John McCutcheon - see BHM comments

6. Podge - looked solid at CHB and done well to snuff out Freeman when he came on but I'd like to see him drive forward more. However I'm sure the game will give him confidence and he will soon bring this more into his game.

7. David Rooney - looked out of his depth and will need a lot more football at that standard if he is to adapt.

8. Mark McKeever - was outstanding yesterday. Fielding, breaking, passing, running, tackling, he really looked a class apart. Having said that I would still have strong reservations about him playing midfield come the ulster championship but I'd imagine the position is temporary.

9. Declan Gaffney - looked another decent prospect. Doesn't seem to get very airborn when fielding but his height and reach seemed to make up for that yesterday. Will need to impose himself more on the game other than the fielding aspect.

10. James Clarke - hasn't relinquished his lightening pace but unfortunatley, nor his abilty to just run blindly with the ball. Seemed to be struggling fitness wise towards the end.

11. Rory Donohoe - just doesn't seem to have a forward's head on his shoulders. Made too many poor decisions.

12. Martin Reilly - good game, always lively and kicked some nice scores with one monster free from 50 yards.

13. Jason Reilly - see BHM comments

14. Eddie Reilly - tried hard and always made himself available but it rarely came off for him. Kicked a great point but scourned some desperate frees early.

15. Ryan McCormack - started very quietly but came into the game after he converted he resumed free taking duties from Eddie. Should take confidence from the game and hopefully progress.

Subs

Alan Clarke - needs to play the ball more, tried to give everyone a shoulder, not that any of them where effective.

Barry Watters - Very slick player and as BHM says done well going forward. However he is to light for this grade (or at least defence at this grade) and this was evident when his man easily rounded him for a late point.

Nicolas Walsh - see Alan Clarke (replace shoulder with punch)

Conor Smith - Seems to have put on a lot of weight, looked sluggish.

All in all an encouraging performance from an experimental Cavan side.

AOB

Podge and Gaynor are now unavailable to the county until finished with Ballinagh now.

Finbar Reilly picked up an injury during the week and thus was not togged out.

Dermot Sheridan was also due to tog out but altough uninjured he was rested after his car skidded into a ditch that morning.

Won't be making it to Belfast myself either  :-\
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Mr. Pain on January 07, 2008, 03:54:57 PM
Mr. Pain wasn't at the Cavan match because his little cat Snuggles had a cold and had to be looked after. However, from different reports, he feels he can comment. It's always good to win but i believe the two teams that played yesterday will be nothing like the teams that will line out come championship. Some guys should have never been brought back into the panel (Mr. Clarke). McCutcheon is not a wing half back, he would be better in the centre or midfield. Ah i could go on but i couldn't be bothered. Falling asleep at the computer................................................rant over!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: CavanCola on January 07, 2008, 04:13:15 PM
Mr Pain,
I felt the pain of having to listen to the match on the way back to Dublin on Northern sound. I now know the complete history of the McKenna cup competition, the names of just about everyone that is in Lisdarn at present and the bishop of clogher at some point in time when the McKenna cup started out. Also I can break the good news that iniskeen are thinking about challenging Maghera McFinns in a reinactment of some match that happened before 1888. Quality information. As for the match I think Cavan won. ::)
CavanCola
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Mr. Pain on January 07, 2008, 04:42:50 PM
Fizzy Drink,

I'm with you there, it's torturous. You don't even know the score until nearly the end of the game with scores being kicked as he talks about somebody's neighbour's sister's brother-in-law's uncle's ex-wife's medal in arts and crafts when she was 10. Riveting stuff!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Mr. Pain on January 07, 2008, 04:44:31 PM
That's a fine booty you got there!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on January 07, 2008, 11:54:26 PM
Quote from: CavanCola on January 07, 2008, 04:13:15 PM
Mr Pain,
I felt the pain of having to listen to the match on the way back to Dublin on Northern sound. I now know the complete history of the McKenna cup competition, the names of just about everyone that is in Lisdarn at present and the bishop of clogher at some point in time when the McKenna cup started out. Also I can break the good news that iniskeen are thinking about challenging Maghera McFinns in a reinactment of some match that happened before 1888. Quality information. As for the match I think Cavan won. ::)
CavanCola

:D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: LackenLegend on January 08, 2008, 03:38:54 PM
How's it goin lads? Just want to say well done to the Cavan Junior B handball team who won the All-Ireland before Xmas. There wasn,t much said about it.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: An Laoch on January 09, 2008, 12:23:08 PM
There's nothing about it any of the usual places, but does anyone here know if the Fermanagh v Armagh game is still going ahead tonight at Breffni Park - 8.00? It might take a wander down and see how they're shaping up.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on January 10, 2008, 10:18:42 AM
Disappointing defeat last night, here is a quick report from an Antrim perspective....

Quote from: hardstation on January 10, 2008, 12:15:53 AM
Antrim 0-10
Cavan 0-09
Brutal match. Lucky to be drawing at half time. Most of the first half scores came from frees. Kevin McGourty was moved into full forward from centre three quarters and had a goal chance when he went through, one on one with the 'keeper. He blasted it straight at the Cavan goalie who did well to knock it to safety. Cavan went up the pitch and had a one on one with Sean McGreavey. The Cavan forward went for the same plan as McGourty and McGreavey was equal to it. McGourty and his marker were booked a minute after receiving a warning from the ref for off the ball antics.
Antrim started very well in the second half and started winning a lot of ball around the middle. They raced into a 3 point lead with the score of the night going to substitute, Conor Murray. Antrim were cruising mid way through the second half but took their foot off the pedal and Cavan capitalised by knocking over a run of points. Cavan, who were now dominating the middle of the park with Joe Quinn struggling to get into the game, had another one on one with the Antrim 'keeper. McGreavey made a fantastic save to deny them. It was a very tight finish to the game and it looked like a draw was on the cards when Cavan got a free from about 40. Luckily for Antrim, it hit the outside of the post and went wide. That was it.
Neither team impressed but a win is a win.

Anybody hear anything more?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on January 10, 2008, 11:56:18 AM
From the Fenian News:

Slick Saffrons get off to winning start
Dr McKenna Cup Group C: Antrim 0-10 Cavan 0-9
From Tony McGee at Casement Park
10/01/08

ANTRIM chalked up a deserved win over Cavan in a Dr McKenna Cup battle that never really got out of third gear, though the Saffrons will be happy to get their first points on the board.
Both teams tried to make the contest interesting, but play never really rose above the mediocre. However, the scores were always close, with the teams level three times in the first half and at the break.
Defences were mostly on top, with the bulk of the scores coming from placed balls. In the opening half, the visitors looked the more lively side but failed to make use of their possession and didn't repeat their accuracy of last Sunday's win over Monaghan.
At midfield, Joe Quinn held sway for the home side and that helped to give the Antrim attack a fair supply of the ball in the second half.
Despite Cavan's outfield dominance, the sides went in level at half-time, 0-5 to 0-5, as the Breffni boys shot five wides to Antrim's two.
It was Jason Reilly who opened the scoring in the first minute and Cavan were 0-3 to 0-1 ahead after 10 minutes, but points from Michael McCann and Niall Doyle (free) had the game all square on 15 minutes.
Ryan McCormack sent over his second free-kick and Eddie O'Reilly cut nicely inside to put Cavan in control again, but they failed to raise a flag for the closing 16 minutes of the first half while points from Niall Doyle (free) and a long range effort from Michael Magill levelled the argument for the third time.
Antrim turned on the power play on the restart and went 0-8 to 0-5 ahead with two pointed frees by McCann and a point from play by substitute Conor Murray.
After a barren 29 minutes, Martin Reilly popped a Cavan free over the bar to close the gap to two points but McCann struck two frees to keep the scent of victory in Antrim's nostrils.
Reilly kept the visitors in the game with two more points from placed balls to leave just two points in the match.
The visitors now sensed victory, and when half-back John McCutcheon sent over another point the minimum separated the sides at 0-10 to 0-9. The chance for an equaliser fell to Martin Reilly two minutes from time, but his effort from a placed ball came off the post and seconds later he sent another effort from play wide.
The teams will meet again at Casement Park in the Ulster Championship next May, and while this result gives Antrim a boost, neither team will put much stock into last night's scoreline when the real action hots up.

MATCH STATS
Antrim: S McGreevy; T Scullion, P Doherty, A McLean; L Carland, E O'Neill, S Kelly; B Hasson, J Quinn; T O'Neill, J McGourty, S McVeigh; M McCann (0-5, four frees), M Magill (0-1), N Doyle (0-3, all frees). Subs: C Murray (0-1) for Doyle, inj (40); G Crossey for McVeigh (53); M Cougan for Hasson (59).
Cavan: James Reilly; D Rooney, John Clarke, K Fannin; J McCutcheon (0-2), A Forde, A Clarke; D Gaffney, M McKeever; James Clarke, R Donohue, M Reilly (0-3, all frees); R McCormack (0-2, both frees), E Reilly (0-1), Jason Reilly (0-1). Subs: A Fitzpatrick for McCormack (52); B Watters for A Clarke (53).
Ref: E O'Hare (Down)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on January 10, 2008, 07:14:45 PM
James Reilly; D Rooney, John Clarke, K Fannin; J McCutcheon (0-2), A Forde, A Clarke; D Gaffney, M McKeever; James Clarke, R Donohue, M Reilly (0-3, all frees); R McCormack (0-2, both frees), E Reilly (0-1), Jason Reilly (0-1). Subs: A Fitzpatrick for McCormack (52); B Watters for A Clarke (53).

well what these games obviously tell us is

James Clarke isnt up to it at inter county level

I have grave doubts about John Clarke aswell.

John McCutcheon,Declan Gaffney and Ryan McCormack,Alan Clarke and indeed Barry Watters(although in my opinion its a year too early for him) have played their way into the reckoning for the National League.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on January 11, 2008, 09:02:28 AM
Ryan McCormack has a way  to go I think. Was talking to a lad that went to  the game and he said McCormack wasn't in it really, both his scores from frees. Austin Fitz came on for him after 50 mins and played well. I think Austin will get a start next day to see what he is like. But I suppose it is very very early days yet. Any word on McCabe - I hear rumours he has to have operations following his injury in the county final.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: shotstopper1 on January 11, 2008, 11:55:12 AM

From Indo

Johnston the hero for DCU
DCU 1-14 Louth 0-11

Friday January 11 2008


Fast-starting DCU were too strong for Louth in last night's O'Byrne Cup clash in Darver to set themselves up for a joust with Offaly on Sunday.


The Dublin College registered the first five scores of the game, three of them falling to Cavan star Seanie Johnston who was ably supported in attack by Shane Smith and Conor Mortimer.

DCU established a 0-10 to 0-3 lead at the break.

Ronan Carroll and Brian White lead a Louth charge in the second-half, however, hopes of a Louth comeback were dashed in the 63rd minute when DCU's Cathal Gregg struck for the only goal of the game to seal the victory.

Scorers -- DCU: C Mortimer (0-5, two frees), S Johnston (0-4, two frees), C Gregg (1-0), S Smith (0-2), R Flanagan (0-1, free), D Kelly (0-1).

Louth: B White (0-4, two frees), R Carroll (0-2), M Stanfield (0-2, one free), D Finnegan (0-1), P Matthews (0-1), D Clarke (0-1).

DCU -- C Munnelly; P Andrews, D Sheridan, D Mooney; C Guckian, K Leahy, M McElhinney; F O¹Reilly, R Flanagan; D Keenan, S Smith, C Gregg; S Johnston C Mortimer D Kelly. Subs:, K Nolan for Guckian (half-time), C Rogers for Mortimer (53 mins.), W Mulhall for Johnston (60), D Walsh for Leahy (60), B Sheridan for O¹Reilly (64).

Louth -- S Connor; A Page, M Fanning, B McArdle; D Finnegan, C McGuinness, R Finnegan; R Carroll, P Mallon; A Reid, E Carroll, JJ Quigley; B White, M Stanfield, P Matthews. Subs: B Donnelly for Mallon, D Clarke for Reid, J Murray for Quigley, J Neary for Page (all half-time), Keith White for E Carroll (60).

Ref -- P Daly (Westmeath).

- Louth 0-11

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: trim blue on January 12, 2008, 08:42:12 PM
Cavan 2-10 Queens 0-11
I'm sure Ballyhaise will have been there to give us the lowdown and detail
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on January 12, 2008, 08:57:19 PM
alright lads

Cavan 2-10 Queens 0-11

why in gods name i braved the elements to go into this i do not know.

desperate conditions fairly poor quality game with a few moments of excitement and good play.

Cavan team was

1.James Carolan- Kickouts good,got injured in first half,replaced at half time by Miller 7

2.David Rooney-again quite anonymous for large parts of the game,i know hes a good footballer,but hes not doing himself justice in these games. 6

3.Rory Dunne-The Redhills man made his debut and had a tough time against Armagh county panelist Michael O Rourke who scored 2 points from play,Dunne however stuck at it,got out first to a fair few balls,and was very comfortable in posession.a Very encouraging debut. 8

4.Martin Reily-Man of the match for me,switching back into defence on Queens dangerman Paul McComiskey and marked the Down man well.,just looks so composed at everything he does,a real class act, 9

5.John McCutcheon-The Find of the McKenna Cup,very mobile and got his hands on alot of ball,defended well also,Great workrate.Has definetely played himself into contention for the National League. 8

6.Anthony Forde- was roasted by the very fast number 11 for Queens,didnt look at all fit but improved in the second half. 6

7.Barry Watters- Another great Find,Very Good going forward like we seen against Monaghan,but defended very well tonight.I think its a year too soon for him,but who knows,Is going to be a key player for the under 21's AT LEAST. 8

8.Lorcan Mulvey-played in fits and starts,not very fit looking,but a bit lighter looking than last year which is good, competed well with Charlie Vernon,Caught one or two balls and drove forward at times.7

9.Mark McKeever-outsanding for the third game in a row,Workrate is outstanding and gets his hands on an obscene amount of ball,has really stepped up into the Captains role by the look of it. 8

10.Austin Fitzpatrick-The Killeshandra man didnt exactly get a lot of time to impress, was taken off after about 12-15 minutes and replaced by James Clarke,wasnt in the game at all,but giving players only a few minutes to impress is ridiculous. 6

11.Rory Donohoe-Not impressive at all,holds onto the ball too long,doesnt have great feet,Not the answer at Centre Forward. 6

12.Alan Clarke-Again not terribely impressive,worked hard though,things just didnt go his way. 6

13.Finbar Reily- Accurate scored 3 points,workrate good,suffered from Queens crowding the backs,Good return to competitive inter county action though. 7

14.Eddie Reily--Workrate as usual outstanding,scored 3 points,kicked a few wide,needs to learn how to make the telling pass. 7

15.Jason Reily-scored the opening goal in the first half,but not sure he touched the ball after that,very very quiet by his standards. 6

Subs

Declan Gaffney for Mulvey--caught  a good ball and threw his weight around when he came on near the end.

James Clarke- we criticse him on here,but he played very well,kicking two points from play,sometimes he doesnt know what to do with the ball,and gets caught in two minds,leading to overcarrying and wasted possesion,he can be frustrating to watch. 8

John McCabe for Alan Clarke--didnt see any of the ball really

Damien Reily for???- think thats one of the under 21's who came on near the end,hes from either Belturbet or Killeshandra? not sure

James Reily--Kickouts not what they will be in May,didnt have anything to do. 6


Dunne,Martin Reily,McCutcheon,Watters were the bright spots
would have liked to see Mulvey and Gaffney at Centre field-dont know why hes persisting with McKeever there,hes not big enough.
hopefully we will have another game now.
The old enemy could do us a favour tommorow and beat Antrim.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on January 12, 2008, 09:08:56 PM
Thanks for that BHM. Didn't make the game but was talking to a few lads that did from home and they pretty much agreed with you on everything there. They, like me, were dissapointed in the treatment of Austin Fitz. After the Antrim game he was told he made a big impact when introduced so he was given a start today. The lads reckon he wasn't in it much but he didn't make any f**k ups or anything so why not give him half a match at least instead of takling him off after 15 minutes?? Now you have a player who has good potential but probably low confidence. Sometimes you would wonder if Keoghan has any brains at all. Speaking of early subs, was pierson togged out for any of these games in McKenna cup after his 1 minute substitution vrs Fermanagh in that challenge.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on January 12, 2008, 09:12:40 PM
disgraceful treatment of Fitzpatrick Myles, you just dont do that to young players who are trying to find their way,That sort of shite has the potential to ruin his confidence. Didnt see Pierson at the game, fairly sure he wasnt among the subs.Was in the stand.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Hollow Man on January 12, 2008, 09:14:50 PM
Austin Fitz got one ball and kicked wide, don't know why he was taken off

Mulvey was anonymous I thought, 0 out of ten

McCutcheon was good again, Martin Reilly outstanding - hopefully he can keep the form he has shown this winter going all year

Watters looks sharp but I can't see him making a place, a few lads like Flanagan, Sheridan, Fannin and Hannon to come back in the backs, all should start. Rabbitt also in contention so Watters will have his work cut out, one for the future though without doubt

Eddie isn't effective at full forward at county level, won't make the cut from what I've seen in this McKenna Cup

Finbar started well and was quite good overall

Dunne was impressive at full back, lost his man a couple of times but overall got stuck in and did well



Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on January 12, 2008, 09:21:21 PM
HollowMan

i think Eddie would be more effective out at wing forward,
The Half forward line was non existant with the exception of  James Clarke.Need some agression in there.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on January 13, 2008, 11:25:13 AM
Happy new year and a special shout to the likes of Haise Man, Homer and others for very informative postings, match reports etc, keep it up lads. Very poor treatment of that Fitz lad last night but still doesn't beat the daddy of them all a few years ago in a match against Wicklow during Marty Mac's reign. Eugene Kiernan was brought on as a sub, went for one ball, fumbled it and was replaced two minutes later by Larry Reilly.................not surprisingly the lad has neen nowhere near the team since.

I've heard no mention of one name that I think is vital to our league campaign-Sean Brady of Castlerahan. Any info?????? we need the lad available
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on January 13, 2008, 01:55:02 PM
I'd say he plays with whatever college he goes to in Dublin ac39, and will likely be back with the panel later.

It sounds like we're unearthing a few options anyway, how well they'll do when the real stuff starts remains to be seen but until then they're worth their go.

I'm more curious about the role of Keoghan's new wet nurse right hand man, I can't even remember his name but is there any evident change in our style of play/tactics and so on?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: trim blue on January 13, 2008, 03:14:51 PM
sean brady is finished college as far as I know so I presume he is injured at present
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on January 13, 2008, 04:23:08 PM
Indeed fair play to the mushroom pickers - as long as they don't expect us to do them any favours I'll be happy ;) From what I am told Keoghan is the only presence on the line for cavan at the McKenna cup games, no sign of the new trainer from Tyrone (who's name I can't remember right now). So does that mean we are through to the semi? I suppose if Antrim absolutley hammer Queens they might get ahead on score difference.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Blue06 on January 13, 2008, 07:10:06 PM
I reckon we should be through now.  Queens would have to beat Antrim by 12 points to overtake us OR Antrim would have to beat Queens by 15 pts to do so.
Even so we would probably get through as best runner up.

Braved the elements myself last night and given the conditions I thought we got a decent enough match.

Re Austin Fitzpatrick

I noticed him getting hurt during the warm up, missed a simple chance in front of the posts and was beat handily to a couple of balls. 
First time seeing the lad play so I can't really comment but he did get a knock during the warm up which would not have helped him.

Agree with the general consensus on who played well. 


Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on January 14, 2008, 09:11:37 PM
Satisfactory rather than impressive performance on Saturday night in tough conditions. I'll just bang out a few comments.

Martin Reilly was tremendous at corner back on young Comiskey, posters will remember him the Down speed merchant that broke our hearts last year by leveling the Breffni tie with the last kick of the game. Reilly really snuffed him out of everything also some fine fielding and never failed in picking out a pass when coming out with the ball. In fairness I give Keoghan a hard enough time so I must commend him for getting this move right.

Rory Dunne gave a good game at full-back and looks promising but one must take the performance with a pinch of salt as the fella he was marking was only a couple of years older than himself and of similar stature so it's more encouraging from an u21 point of view.

Barry Watters for a young lad he is just brimming with confidence, his poor marker(s) didn't get a chance to think about making an attack as they were just fecked from chasing after him.

Forde was farily poor at CHB fouled a lot and doesn't seem to have given up giving out to referees for new years. Did well when in possession though.

Lorcan Mulvey will need lots of games to regain any match fitness as at the moment he has none.

McKeever once again excellent. Covers on unbelievable amount of ground and always seems to be on the ball.

Austin Fitz seemed to pick up some injury in the warm-up alright. Scorned one opportunity but I must agree the substitution did seem a bit harsh and will do the lads confidence no favours.

Rory Donohoe didn't do anything to change my opinion from the Monaghan game. The CHF needs to be the playmaker up front and Donohoe simply isn't a forward.

I'd agree with the rest of the comments on the others.

All in all encouraging stuff from some from the young guns and a result that might secure us a semi-final spot.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: North Longford on January 15, 2008, 08:50:05 AM
Lads its interesting reading the comments here after listening to Phelim Plunkett on Sha side No Sound last night.
What stands out most is his ascertation that Anthony Forde and Lorcan Mulvey were immense and totally dominated that area of the field?? That would seem to diifer quite significantly with what I'm reading up above??
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on January 15, 2008, 10:51:47 AM
Quote from: North Longford on January 15, 2008, 08:50:05 AM
Lads its interesting reading the comments here after listening to Phelim Plunkett on Sha side No Sound last night.
What stands out most is his ascertation that Anthony Forde and Lorcan Mulvey were immense and totally dominated that area of the field?? That would seem to diifer quite significantly with what I'm reading up above??

I was thinking to myself after the game that Forde wouldn't get his place when the college lads and injured players come back.  I though mulvey did o.k he didn't dominate though.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on January 15, 2008, 10:55:29 AM
Northern Sound is a bit like the Anglo Celt. Some boy who know sweet FA just names a couple of guys he recognised on the field as being the key men. Anthony Forde hasn't played a good game for Cavan in a long time - in fact he is too busy fouling and moaning to worry about the ball.  Mulvey is "immensce" alright (i.e. as in large) , he was fairly emmence 1st day out in the championship last year too. The Celt and Northern Sound are like two dinosaurs and personally I ignore the crap both of them come out with.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on January 15, 2008, 11:27:17 AM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on January 15, 2008, 10:55:29 AM
Northern Sound is a bit like the Anglo Celt. Some boy who know sweet FA just names a couple of guys he recognised on the field as being the key men. Anthony Forde hasn't played a good game for Cavan in a long time - in fact he is too busy fouling and moaning to worry about the ball.  Mulvey is "immensce" alright (i.e. as in large) , he was fairly emmence 1st day out in the championship last year too. The Celt and Northern Sound are like two dinosaurs and personally I ignore the crap both of them come out with.

I agree about Northern Sound but it was one of the selectors that was saying it which would make you wonder if he was looking at the same game as the rest of us.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Blue06 on January 15, 2008, 11:37:13 AM
Both players had decent enough second halves after poor first half showings.

Plunkett being a selector is never going to give an impartial opinion, he is only going to say positive things about his players as he should.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Hollow Man on January 16, 2008, 09:39:47 PM
I wuldn't critice the Celt too much if I used the word "emmence" instead of "immense"...
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on January 16, 2008, 10:27:04 PM
I was critising Mulvey, Hollow Man. The only thing immence about him was his weight last year!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on January 16, 2008, 11:16:05 PM
i thought Mulvey was half decent at QUB,
Forde got absolutely destroyed by the movement from the QUB number 11.
See the Celt also proclaiming David Rooneys great performance, he wasnt poor by any means,but hes wasnt in the game very much.  ::)

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Hollow Man on January 17, 2008, 12:15:55 AM
QuoteThe only thing immence about him was his weight last year!

The word is immense man, immense...

I thought Mulvey was brutal to be honest. I think Forde will struggle this year as well, apparently he was considering not going back, did anyone hear that?

Was Larry dropped or did he hang up the boots?

If he's finished with Cavan, it's the end of an era for a player who was incredible on his day, but who struggled with fitness in the end, and who blighted his legacy with too many shoddy, ball hogging performances.

On form though in the late 90s, top class... My favourite Cavan player to watch.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on January 17, 2008, 08:11:03 AM
Quote from: Hollow Man on January 17, 2008, 12:15:55 AM



Was Larry dropped or did he hang up the boots?

If he's finished with Cavan, it's the end of an era for a player who was incredible on his day, but who struggled with fitness in the end, and who blighted his legacy with too many shoddy, ball hogging performances.

On form though in the late 90s, top class... My favourite Cavan player to watch.

What i hear he isn't finished yet
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on January 17, 2008, 10:23:09 AM
Antrim 1-11 0-16 Queen's

So by my calculations that result puts Cavan through on score difference


Cavan +7 4pts
Queens +3 4pts
Monaghan  -5 2pts
Antrim -6 2pts

:)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: LackenLegend on January 17, 2008, 02:50:08 PM
New Lacken manager - Joe O' Connor. Any comments? Do the Gaels have a manager yet?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on January 21, 2008, 09:29:41 AM
We won't have to give out about Walsh on this anymore!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on January 21, 2008, 10:11:29 AM
Quote from: cavan4ever on January 21, 2008, 09:29:41 AM
We won't have to give out about Walsh on this anymore!

What do you mean cavan4ever?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on January 21, 2008, 10:17:16 AM
He has quit the Cavan squad didn't here any reaon but it was his own choice.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on January 21, 2008, 10:25:42 AM
Quote from: cavan4ever on January 21, 2008, 10:17:16 AM
He has quit the Cavan squad didn't here any reaon but it was his own choice.

:o Did not see that one coming. He will be big loss. Looks like McKeever's midfield role may become more permanent.

Anybody heading up to Newry tomorrow night?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on January 21, 2008, 10:39:46 AM
Quote from: Homer on January 21, 2008, 10:25:42 AM
Quote from: cavan4ever on January 21, 2008, 10:17:16 AM
He has quit the Cavan squad didn't here any reaon but it was his own choice.

:o Did not see that one coming. He will be big loss. Looks like McKeever's midfield role may become more permanent.

Anybody heading up to Newry tomorrow night?

is it tomorrow or wednesday either way i wont be going anyway

Martin Cahill is back training with them aswell now
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on January 21, 2008, 11:12:05 AM
It's tomorrow night alright, Pairc Esler, 8.00pm with the Derry v Fermanagh game on Wednesday night. Won't be able to make the Cavan game myself either.

Anybody going to the Ballinagh game in Navan on Sunday?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: North Longford on January 21, 2008, 11:41:55 AM
Was in Pearse Park yesterday at the DCU game.
Just some info on the 3 Cavan lads playing.

Dermot Sheridan did ok but he was on the weakest of the Longford FF line. A guy playing his first game. Not sure if he started FB, as I was the other end of the field but if he did he only lasted there a few minutes because Paddy Andres played full back on Brian Kavanagh for most of the game (conceding 1-04).
Hard to judge whether Sheridan is the answer to FB as the corner is a different kettle of fish but it would appear the DCU selectors didn't feel he was up to marking Kavanagh.

Flanagan looks like a good player but I thought he got a raw deal yesterday. He started midfield and was coming out at least 50 50 against a guy of 6'4 including scoring a good point. DCU then had a wing back injured and Flanagan went back there and they brought on Kevin Reilly from Meath to midfield. Reilly didn't do as well as Flanagan had been doing but Flanagan didn't do particularly well at wingback. His man got on a lot of ball (Dowd is a very good player though) and Flanagan moved up to wing forward. H was poor here but that was as much to do with Longford completely dominating around the middle. He did kick a second good point at the very end but I though he didn't look particularly comfortable at half forward and was beaten to a good bit of ball (again though he was on a longford regular whos a very athletic wing back)

Johnstone was the poorest of the 3. After a decent early burst he did very little. Was being marked by another guy playing his first game.  Mortimer and Kelly (tiny fella) the Sligo corner forward were both better than johnstone in the first half when DCU had lots of possession and the 3 men inside had loads of space. DCU's half forwards dropped very deep to give the inside line lots of space. Kicked a point in the second half near the end but only handled the ball a couple of times in the whole second half.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on January 21, 2008, 04:23:43 PM
Quote from: Homer on January 21, 2008, 11:12:05 AM
It's tomorrow night alright, Pairc Esler, 8.00pm with the Derry v Fermanagh game on Wednesday night. Won't be able to make the Cavan game myself either.

Anybody going to the Ballinagh game in Navan on Sunday?

Yeah i will probably head up on Sunday for a look, is everyone fit and well?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on January 21, 2008, 04:56:09 PM
Quote from: cavan4ever on January 21, 2008, 04:23:43 PM
Quote from: Homer on January 21, 2008, 11:12:05 AM
It's tomorrow night alright, Pairc Esler, 8.00pm with the Derry v Fermanagh game on Wednesday night. Won't be able to make the Cavan game myself either.

Anybody going to the Ballinagh game in Navan on Sunday?

Yeah i will probably head up on Sunday for a look, is everyone fit and well?

There's one or two lads carrying knocks but hopefully they should be right come Sunday.

Cheers for the report North Longford. From what I here Mícheál Lyng was also on the bench too but didn't come on. I don't know how true this is but apparently he has been out injured for the last few weeks after being caught with a boot in a challenge match against Tir Conaill Gaels, which resulted in him having to get 12 stitches in his leg. Must have been some kick!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Cavanfan on January 21, 2008, 05:38:53 PM
Yea Lyng got a kick in the leg and had to get stitches. Are the DCU lads available tomorrow night?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: North Longford on January 22, 2008, 09:57:20 AM
Lyng was listed in the subs but not sure he was even there. They brought on 3 or 4 subs and he wasn't one of them. Certainly if he was fit they could have done with him. They had about 12 subs listed but I'd doubt if they had 7 or 8 togged.
Going back to Flanagan I think they were mad to take him out of the middle. While he was there he looked like a very good player. They guy he was on ended up being the best midfielder on the pitch afterwards.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on January 22, 2008, 10:44:58 AM
Flanagan's talent and versatility seem to hinder him sometimes in that he gets shunted around the field to firefight whatever problems there are. I think he looks best in the half-backs, he has a centre-back's skills but not the physique to be a long-term prospect in the position, so probably on the wings. He's U21 again this year God it looks like we have a decent team at this level once again maybe we'll do ok blah blah fill in the same shit we say every year....

Keoghan kept him stationed at full-back to mark a half-fit Martin Clarke in the minor replay against Down some years ago, if he had been further out the field you have to think we'd have won that game.

Then again, if me auntie had balls she'd be me uncle.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on January 22, 2008, 02:03:38 PM
Expected Cavan team for tonight:

1. James Reilly
2. .........................
3. Rory Dunne
4. Martin Reilly
5. John McCutcheon
6. Anthony Forde
7. Barry Watters
8. Lorcan Mulvey
9. Mark Mckeever
10. James CLarke
11. Rory Donohoe
12. .....................
13. Jason Reilly
14. Gerard Pierson
15. Finbar Reilly

Can't remember who the other players i am missing are.
Eddie is injured.

Although Martin Reilly played well corner back against Queens the last day he has something that not many forward in Cavan have and that it the ability to kick points from long range which is why id rather see him in the forwards.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on January 22, 2008, 09:39:28 PM
Cavan beaten by 1 point in Newry. Last minute point 2-12 to 1-16 I think. Eddie and Waters got the goals. McCutcheon sent off in last minute. Got two yellows, took a swipe at someone and then got his two yellows swapped for a straight red. Lyng started but was subbed in 2nd half. Got this from northern sound so apologies if it is inacurrate.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on January 23, 2008, 09:52:41 AM
Report from the Indo http://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-football/late-hughes-point-seals-down-win-1271866.html (http://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-football/late-hughes-point-seals-down-win-1271866.html)

Late Hughes point seals Down win

Down 1-16 Cavan 2-12

A point by Danny Hughes on the stroke of time gave Down a narrow victory over Cavan in this Gaelic Life Dr McKenna Cup semi final in Pairc Esler Newry last night.

In one of the most exciting game seen for some time both sides treated the game as a championship clash.

Down showed greater hunger and although they conceded two goals, they came back to snatch victory. Despite the wet conditions there was some great fielding by both sides.

Down opened with a point inside a minute from a free by John Fegan. Cavan were level two minutes later when Gerald Pearson set up Finbar O'Reilly to send over the bar.

The winners moved into a four 0-4 0-1 lead after ten minutes but Cavan came back strongly and were level after 20 minutes with some good open football.

Danny Hughes put Down ahead within a minute of the restart but they were shocked four minutes later when a lightening Cavan move saw Finbar O'Reilly set up Barry Watters for a goal. There was misery for Cavan four minutes later when Cavan midfielder Mark McKeever received a straight reed card.

Down came back with two pointed frees by John Fegan to keep them in the game. Midway through the half Cathal Magee pointed from long range and the sides were level again.

The sides were both down to 14 men when Down's Colm Murney received a second yellow card and was dismissed.

Cavan moved up a gear and Finbar O'Reilly regained the lead with a point from a 45, but Kevin McKernan leveled.

Again Cavan regained the lead with a Lorcan Mulvey point. Down had a great chance for a goal but a great Danny Hughes effort came back off the post but two minutes later John Fegan set up Hughes for a goal. But the sides were level again when following a scramble Eddie Reilly poked the ball ton the net and it was level again. Danny Hughes regained the lead with a point. Cavan's John Mc Cutcheon received a second yellow card and was also dismissed a minute into injury-time.

Down -- B. McVeigh; C.McGovern, G. McArdle, M. Cole; D. O'Hanlon, L. Doyle, K. McGuigan; P. Turley, J. Lynch; J. Fegan (0-5 frees), K. McKernan(03), D. Hughes(1-2; J. Clarke(0-3), C. Magee (0-3), R. Sexton. Subs: C.Murney for J.Lynch; R.Murtagh for D. O'Hanlon

Cavan -- J. Reilly; M. Brides (0-1), R. Dunne, M.Reilly; J.McCutcheon, K.Fannin, B.Watters (1-0); L.Mulvey (0-2), M.McKeever; M.Lyng, R.Donohue, E.Reilly (1-1); F. O'Reilly (0-6. 0-2 n45,0-3 frees), G.Pearson (0-1), J. O'Reilly(0-1). Subs: J. Clarke for G.Pearson; D.Gaffney for M.Lyng; R.McCormack for E.Reilly

REF -- J.J. Cleary (Derry).

Report from BBC NI http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/northern_ireland/gaelic_games/7203800.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/northern_ireland/gaelic_games/7203800.stm)

Down qualify for McKenna decider

An late point from Danny Hughes helped Down beat Cavan 1-16 to 2-12 in the Gaelic Life McKenna Cup semi-final.

Down led 0-4 to 0-1 early on but Cavan were level (0-9 to 0-9) by the break.

Barry Watters' goal put Cavan three up but they had Mark McKeever sent off and Down got quickly on terms only for them to have sub Colm Murney dismissed.

Danny Hughes' goal helped Down move three ahead but John McCutcheon's goal levelled late on before he was sent off and Hughes then struck the winner.

The Mourne County will face either Fermanagh or Derry in Saturday's final.

Derry take on the Erne County in Wednesday's second semi-final at Omagh (2000 GMT).

Kevin McKernan (two), John Fegan and Cathal Magee were on target for Down early on as they forged a 0-4 to 0-1 lead.

However, Michael Brides, Eddie Reilly and Gerard Pierson hit the next three scores as Cavan levelled.

Down did move two ahead again in the second quarter but two Finbarr O'Reilly frees before the break brought the sides level.

Cavan looked to have struck a crucial blow when Watters slammed in his team's first goal six minutes into the second half.

However, almost immediately Cavan midfielder Mark McKeever received a straight red card after an off-the-ball incident and Down used their man advantage to reply with three quick scores to level.

Down sub Colm Murney was sent off after getting his second yellow card on 55 minutes.

Finbarr O'Reilly's point edged Cavan ahead again inside the final 10 minutes but Danny Hughes' 65th-minute goal put Down 1-14 to 1-12 ahead.

Cathal Magee's third point extended Down's lead to three but John McCutcheon then levelled for Cavan when he scrambled in his team's second goal.

McCutcheon's goal was his final involvement in the game as he received his second caution in the dying seconds of the contest to leave Cavan with only 13 players.

Hughes supplied the winner to put Down in the final.

John Fegan finished with five points for Down while Hughes contributed 1-2
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on January 23, 2008, 10:14:19 AM
Looks like McKeever will get landed with at least a months suspension and miss a couple of League games now.

The same could be true for McCuthcheon if Northern Sound were correct.

Was only talking to a fella at the game for a minute and he reckoned it was the best game he's been at in a while and that Cavan would have taken it with a full 15.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on January 23, 2008, 11:17:20 AM
I suppose there's reason to be encouraged somewhat seeing as it was a largely very experimental team we had out, I'd say approx 10 of whom had no senior involvement last year or have been off the scene for a while. Down defintely had the edge in experience I'd say and with Podge, Johnston, McCabe, Hannons, Flanagan, Sean Brady to come back as well, you'd nearly be getting hopeful if you hadn't seen this so many times before.

Sendings off a bit disappointing though and when all's said and done it's only January and it doesn't matter a shiny shite really.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on January 23, 2008, 12:50:14 PM
Quote from: cavanmaniac on January 23, 2008, 11:17:20 AM
I suppose there's reason to be encouraged somewhat seeing as it was a largely very experimental team we had out, I'd say approx 10 of whom had no senior involvement last year or have been off the scene for a while. Down defintely had the edge in experience I'd say and with Podge, Johnston, McCabe, Hannons, Flanagan, Sean Brady to come back as well, you'd nearly be getting hopeful if you hadn't seen this so many times before.

Sendings off a bit disappointing though and when all's said and done it's only January and it doesn't matter a shiny shite really.

He will miss the first 2 league games apparently which ain't good cos he has been best player so far this year and with Walsh gone we are limited around the middle of the field.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: LackenLegend on January 23, 2008, 02:20:17 PM
Quote
He will miss the first 2 league games apparently which ain't good cos he has been best player so far this year and with Walsh gone we are limited around the middle of the field.

Are you serious? Limited without Walsh. I would have said that we are fairly limited when hes there!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on January 23, 2008, 02:38:01 PM
Quote from: LackenLegend on January 23, 2008, 02:20:17 PM
Quote
He will miss the first 2 league games apparently which ain't good cos he has been best player so far this year and with Walsh gone we are limited around the middle of the field.

Are you serious? Limited without Walsh. I would have said that we are fairly limited when hes there!

Limited in the players on panel who can play midfield. 
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on January 23, 2008, 07:24:26 PM
no problem,

Good oppertunity to play Declan Gaffney and see what hes got now.

reading on the down page that we won the midfield battle well, thats a new one for us,Im guessing Mulvey and McKeever were both very good,

Like seeing Eddie at wing forward ,gives a good 3rd target for Millers massive kickouts aswell.

Id be very happy with the McKenna cup, 4 good practice games which have thrown up,McCutcheon, Bary Watters, Martin Reily and Rory Dunne tio prominence.

Nicholas Walsh has left the panel? wonder what happened with that.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Caitlin on January 23, 2008, 08:50:33 PM
Enjoyable game last night- could have gone either way -Mc Keever bit of a hallion but overall what you would expect from the two aristocrats of Ulster-good luck this season and good luck to Ballinagh on Sunday from a Down/Corlismore woman.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on January 23, 2008, 11:51:17 PM
Quote from: cavan4ever on January 23, 2008, 12:50:14 PM
He will miss the first 2 league games apparently which ain't good cos he has been best player so far this year and with Walsh gone we are limited around the middle of the field.

You're right of course, I just made a bags of the sentence and meant that the current results and level of performance don't really matter too much with the tougher tests to come. I recall this time last year things seeming much the same and look what happened...
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: LackenLegend on January 24, 2008, 09:56:45 AM
Lads we need a midfielder of 6ft 4". It's the only way we can compete come championship. Paddy Brady if fit is the nearest best thing. McKeever is doing well at the moment but he is too small to be a championship midfielder and in my opinion better suited to wing back. On a side note, good luck to Ballinagh on Sunday.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on January 24, 2008, 11:45:58 AM
Newslone (BBC) had some clips of the Down match on yesterday. Looked like an exciting game in front of a decent crowd. The first Cavan goal from Barry Waters was classy. He looked like the gooch shimying and dummying past two defenders before burying a left foot shot into the bottom corners. He looks like he has some real natural football talent. The 2nd goal was from McCutcheon and not Eddie Reilly. It was a big scramble in the box and he got a boot to it. Downs winner was a real peach. I think Ruairi Donohoe was applying a lot of pressure to the down player pushing him wide but then he just kicked a brilliant point over his shoulder - game over.

I think the McKenna cup has been a worthwhile campaign for us. Tried a few players and also had 6/7 getting runs with their colleges. Weh have had a chance to look at full backs and midfielders and a couple of new forwards. Question is, are any of the new faces better than what is already there? The competition the bring will certainly be a positive effect on the panel. A few players were missing in action so far and I am not sure why...

Sean Brady - unknown
McCabe (injured till mid league I believe)
Cullivan (Injured)
Larry - unknown
Rabbitte - Unknown
Michael Hannon - Unknown

Disapointed to hear Walsh is gone too. He can do a job for the team in the right conditions.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on January 24, 2008, 12:25:53 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on January 24, 2008, 11:45:58 AM


Sean Brady - unknown
McCabe (injured till mid league I believe)
Cullivan (Injured)
Larry - unknown
Rabbitte - Unknown
Michael Hannon - Unknown

Sean brady is recovering from injury and is training as is rabbitte, not sure about Mickey Hannon.  Rumour has it larry is back training

Disapointed to hear Walsh is gone too. He can do a job for the team in the right conditions.



Heard that he has lost his appetite for the game.  Whatever we say about his ability he always gave his all for cavan.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on January 24, 2008, 12:58:27 PM
Quote from: descartes on October 26, 2007, 05:17:06 PM


Does anybody know who this fella is spouting on about, pulled this from the hoganstand


tarnsfers
Transfers
There are a number of Cvan players transferring to clubs in Dublin- what is your view of this
Seamus , Bawn Ireland , 26/10/2007 at 16:14

Any idea's?

This was you last post and it reminds me that Lyng is going to play with a dublin club.  Plunketts i heard?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on January 24, 2008, 01:00:50 PM
If they lose Michael Lyng, They will just "persuade" some other player to join them   ;)  ;)  ;)  ;)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Mr. Pain on January 24, 2008, 04:28:58 PM
Any truth in Barry Watters looking for a transfer to the Gaels? I've heard it from a few different sources.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on January 24, 2008, 04:41:43 PM
Quote from: descartes on January 24, 2008, 03:28:46 PM
QuoteQuote from: descartes on October 26, 2007, 05:17:06 PM


Does anybody know who this fella is spouting on about, pulled this from the hoganstand


tarnsfers
Transfers
There are a number of Cvan players transferring to clubs in Dublin- what is your view of this
Seamus , Bawn Ireland , 26/10/2007 at 16:14

Any idea's?

This was you last post and it reminds me that Lyng is going to play with a dublin club.  Plunketts i heard?

heard that too, but no word of it happening yet,

also heard sean brady for kilmacud,
Ciaran galligan for na fianna,
M hannon for brigids
then i heard hannon to plunketts
then i heard lyng for vincents
then i heard lyng for brigids
then i heard eddie reilly for brigids
then i heard david rooney for brigids
then i heard Brian Kavanagh from longford for brigids
then i heard Sean Maguire for kilmacud

and then i knew it was all bullsh*t

one of the above might move but the mass exodus seamus from bawn boy was wondering about is probably not on the arising!




I heard That Mad Eddie Reilly was looking for a transfer to Gowna and then I knew it was all bullshit :D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on January 24, 2008, 07:59:10 PM
County Leagues scheduled for a start on March 9th.

Hear Templeport werent relegated to Division 4,

Its an absolute disgrace it its true.

No wonder Dublin arent winning all-ireland,Their clubs are just importing or trying to import all the best talent from around the country.

Michael Brides has already transferred from Redhills to a Dub club hasnt he?Big miss for our neighbours.  ;D  ;D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on January 24, 2008, 08:58:02 PM
Quote from: Mr. Pain on January 24, 2008, 04:28:58 PM
Any truth in Barry Watters looking for a transfer to the Gaels? I've heard it from a few different sources.

:D :D :D :D

Michael Brides has already transferred from Redhills to a Dub club hasnt he?Big miss for our neighbours.     

He was with them last year BMman.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on January 25, 2008, 10:39:03 AM
Michael Brides plays for Oliver St. Plunketts now. Apparently he had an excellent year at corner back for them last year.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: shotstopper1 on January 25, 2008, 10:53:56 AM
Best of luck to the 'nagh on Sunday,only one game from Croker,it would be some achievement if they could make it.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on January 25, 2008, 12:37:02 PM
Quote from: Thastheball on January 25, 2008, 12:31:13 PM
Quote from: shotstopper1 on January 25, 2008, 10:53:56 AM
Best of luck to the 'nagh on Sunday,only one game from Croker,it would be some achievement if they could make it.

A snior club playing intermediate FFS.

Yeah how dare they! Why didn't they just go up to senior instead of greedily waiting in the intermediate ranks for years until they felt they were ready to pounce on the poor unsuspecting intermediate clubs of Ulster.

You're some craic.  :D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on January 25, 2008, 12:46:42 PM
The Munterconnaught challenge:
'The Munchies' - as Munterconnaught are popularly known - play in the Junior football championship in Cavan and play their league football in Division Three. Their challenge this year is promotion to Division Two and to win the Junior championship.

From 1995 – 2001, Munterconnaught did not won a single championship game. They had finished bottom of the league eight seasons in a row. In 2006, thanks to an exciting blend of youth and some grizzled veterans, they started to turn a corner, getting to the junior championship final in that year. Last year, however, they fell at the Quarter Final stage. That was when John McCabe took it upon himself to enter the club for the Powerade Challenge. Their belief is that they need one good shove to make the breakthrough.

The 'Munchie' spirit is strong with players travelling home from Dublin, Dundalk and as far away as Edinburgh and Aberdeen at the peak of the season to train and play matches.

That kind of commitment deserves its reward. With Powerade's help, will 2008 be year of 'The Munchies'?


What will they do for them?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on January 25, 2008, 02:25:46 PM
Nutrition advisers,Fitness advisors for Training and Advisors for Games so ive heard C4ever.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Mr. Pain on January 25, 2008, 02:46:48 PM
Powerade, schmowerade! You can't teach a turd how to play the piano. If you don't got the skills you just gotta put in the work. No Pain, no gain! Even that might not do it for you. Small area, Munterconnacht. Ya gotta deal with emigration, college and foremost; neighbouring catchment areas. Are Templeport going down this year? If not then why should the likes of, say, Ballyhaise reserves be relegated or any other team for that matter? What will happen next year when a team finishes bottom? I say Templeport to finish bottom again and the "Munchies" to piss blue Powerade all year and do no better than last year. Oh and good luck to Ballinagh, you will be sick of football when the year starts again. Rant over!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on January 25, 2008, 02:55:00 PM
Quote from: Mr. Pain on January 25, 2008, 02:46:48 PM
Powerade, schmowerade! You can't teach a turd how to play the piano. If you don't got the skills you just gotta put in the work. No Pain, no gain! Even that might not do it for you. Small area, Munterconnacht. Ya gotta deal with emigration, college and foremost; neighbouring catchment areas. Are Templeport going down this year? If not then why should the likes of, say, Ballyhaise seniors be relegated or any other team for that matter? What will happen next year when a team finishes bottom? I say Templeport to finish bottom again and the "Munchies" to piss blue Powerade all year and do no better than last year. Oh and good luck to Ballinagh, you will be sick of football when the year starts again. Rant over!

Templeport knew before the last game of year that they would not be relegated
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on January 25, 2008, 03:07:22 PM
Just want to wish the 'nagh the best of luck in the semi final. I won't be around myself but might tune into Northern Sound (God help me!). The argument of them being a senior club is a load of crap too. Look around the other counties for example and you'll find lots of examples of this. When knockbride won the jnr all ireland they went up to snr champ and league in 2 years. Does that mean they should give their all ireland medals back? The nagh can only go out and beat what is in front of them and fair fucks that is what they have done. If a few other cavan teams could do the same we might be in business.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Mr. Pain on January 25, 2008, 04:36:24 PM
Actually i meant Ballyhaise reserves you fool. They were relegated, not the seniors.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on January 25, 2008, 04:58:07 PM
Quote from: Mr. Pain on January 25, 2008, 04:36:24 PM
Actually i meant Ballyhaise reserves you fool. They were relegated, not the seniors.

Easy tiger  :-*
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on January 27, 2008, 10:21:04 AM
Was looking at the Northern Ireland soccer highlights yesterday cos I couldn't get to sleep and had run out of sleeping pills and who did I see playing for Armagh City only the bold Cian Mackey. They lost 2-1 to Linfield with mackey having their only 2 chances of the game, shooting narowly wide for one after out pacing the entire defence and then squaring for a team mate to score. He looked a better soccer player than Gaelic to me. Does that mean he is finished with Cavan?

Down had a comfortable win in the McKenna cup yesterday and judging by the size of the crowd and the mini pitch invasion at the end it seemed that it mattered a lot to them. I think it puts cavans performace against them in a good light in the semi final.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on January 27, 2008, 04:28:13 PM
Myles, I just don't know how a lad like Mackey could turn his back on Cavan GAA for the short grass game, think of all the stuff he would lose out on, including the option to log onto this page the odd time to see what sort of shit keyboard jockey knobs like you and I are hilariously trying to hang on him this week. Youngsters these days, they just have no appreciation of the finer things in life.

Our eternal optimist Cavan Maniac, he who forever thinks this is the year for the breakthrough at Under 21 level regardless of what sort of humiliation was visited upon the corresponding minor outfit, seems particularly upbeat at our chances in the grade this year. The "names" on the equivalent minor team were Mackey and Flanagan. A key guy who was sprung during the minor clashes with Down was Cillian Sheridan, currently wearing the number 19 Junior B jersey with Celtic. Interesting.

Finally, good performance against Down, the ultimate is we lost by conceding a lot of scores. Meanwhile our goals were from two half backs. We seem to have a long and on-going history of picking fellas in the back line, particularly half back line, on the basis of what they can do with the ball in hand rather than what they can do to stop to other fella playing-Forde, Peter Reilly, Brides, Fannin. Now it looks like we are going the same way with Martin Reilly, McCutcheon, Watters. Michael Hannon seems to be one of the few stick to them like shite to a blanket all out defenders we have, I hope the reason he ain't around is that he is playing with DIT. That's why I think Dermot Sheridan should get a go-out and out defender playing colleges at a good level.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: CoillyG on January 27, 2008, 06:44:22 PM
A week to go to the opener. I think we are coming along nicely. For all the negative comments Keogan has brought on a right few lads and deserves credit. Big problems in mid field still though. Personally I feel maybe Martin Reilly at wing forward would be an option to win possesion. He seems wasted inside and as stated he is one of the few men on the team who can kick points from distance.

As for Ballinagh, they really showed their true colours today. Thanks lads for shaming the county. At leat ye will make the papers
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: CC1 on January 28, 2008, 09:42:15 AM
Quote from: CoillyG on January 27, 2008, 06:44:22 PM
As for Ballinagh, they really showed their true colours today. Thanks lads for shaming the county. At leat ye will make the papers
I wasn't at the game so maybe I'm uninformed of what all happened. But I heard that none of the players were involved, just supporters? If that is the case I think you should retract what you've just said. Every town and parish has its nuts. I am pretty sure there were a few people from Ballinagh that hadn't been to a game before at that game yesterday and it could well have been one of them involved, no one knows. Don't tar everybody with the same brush, that is grossly unfair on the Ballinagh club.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on January 28, 2008, 10:10:21 AM
Could end up in a big fine for the club especially if he is  a member of club.   

Anyways hard luck to Ballinagh im sure the players will enjoy a short break now.   
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Hollow Man on January 28, 2008, 01:00:58 PM
This "Get Sean McCormack on to the county team" internet campaign is getting ridiculous and is frankly embarrassing.

Between hogan stand and this site (not so bad on this site anymore), you'd swear he was Darren Fay.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on January 28, 2008, 01:30:22 PM
Match Report From Hoganstand.com - No mention of a fracas or assault on Umpire. No mention of Gaynors red card. I'm sure the Ballinagh posters will give us the details but I am hearing that Gaynor got a straight red and that a club member struck the linesman and was questioned by the gardai. Sorry end to what was a great year for Ballinagh.

Ballinagh fail in bid for All-Ireland club final place
28 January 2008


Cavan IFC title-holders, Ballinagh failed in their bid for a place in this season's All-Ireland IFC final when on Sunday 27th January at Pairc Tailteann, Navan they were narrowly defeated by the Dublin and Leinster champions, Fingal Ravens on a scoreline of 0-11 to 0-8.

As predicted this was a close and competitive encounter from start to finish with very little between two determined sides. The Dublin side started the game well and by the tenth minute they were ahead by four points to nil. Ballinagh then began to settle and by the half-time break they were right back in the game and trailing by 0-6 to 0-4.

The Cavan champions started the second-half in determined mood and in the opening minutes they were on level terms with points from Colin Gumley and Adrian Maguire. Ballinagh were now playing with confidence, however a lack of sharpness in front of goal denied them scores as they put the Ravens under pressure. In the closing minutes the Dublin side upped their performance and went ahead by three points with five minutes of the game remaining.

Ballinagh 'threw caution to the wind' in the closing minutes and were rewarded when sub Kevin Smith reduced the leeway to two points. Both teams then went in search of scores and exchanged points in a two minute spell. In the dying minutes Ballinagh almost got in for the goal that could have given them the spoils. However, it wasn't to be, and the Leinster and Dublin champions held out for a deserved three points win with the last score of the game from Gary Brennan in the 65th minute.

The Ballinagh side were very disappointed at the end of the game. It was a match they could have got something from. However, the slow start plus some poor marksmanship in their period of dominance in the second-half proved their undoing in the end. They more than matched the Fingal Ravens side in every facet of the game except on the scoreboard, and it must be said they gave of their best in what was a very competitive and exciting game that 'went to the wire.'

Ballinagh - Darragh McCarthy; K. McBride, C. Brady, A. Duffy; N. O'Reilly, P. O'Reilly, D. McInerney; Adrian Maguire 0-1, Cian McDermott; C. Gumley 0-2, Declan Baird 0-2, D. Finnegan 0-1; Niall McDermott 0-1, A. Gaynor, P. Galligan.
Subs - Kevin Smith for Paul Galligan; T. Smith for D. Beard.

Fingal Ravens - D. Mitchell; J. Boland, K. McGrath, S. Maxwell; C. Prenderville, D. Daly 0-1, M. White; K. Kavanagh 0-1, P. Brennan; I. Rooney, N. Tormey 0-2, D. Flanagan; K. Norton 0-2, I. Kavanagh 0-3, S. Madigan.
Subs - S. Arthurs for D. Flanagan; G. Brennan 0-2 for P. Brennan; R. Norton for S. Madigan; J. Morris for I. Rooney; D. Kavanagh for K. Kavanagh.

Referee - D. Hunter (Roscommon).
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on January 28, 2008, 02:24:06 PM
Right lads before I go on to the football, this is everything I know and an honest account.

With two minutes of normal time left an umpire alerted the attention of the referee, after a quick consultation the ref came back out the field and brandished Anthony Gaynor a red card (I'm honestly not sure was the card for verbal abuse or striking etc, unfortunately history would suggest that Anthony was hardly an innocent party). Gaynor then began to head in the umpire's direction and started remonstrating with him about why he was sent off. One of our selectors ran around to the goals and pulled Anthony away and they headed for the sideline. As he was doing so a Ballinagh spectator made his way onto the pitch and struck the umpire. The match remained underway as a Garda who was present at the game caught up with the assaulter and arrested him.

I would like to point out that the man in question has always been thought of by the vast majority of Ballinagh people as a maniac and I hope he never graces a GAA grounds again. It is also looking like the club will now face a hefty fine too.

There was also a fraca when the final whistle blew. One of our younger lads was getting a goading from a ravens player and the two became involved in a tussle and some fisty-cuffs ensued with a couple of more players from both sides joining in. However IMHO most of the players that ran in were doing so to pull boys out of it and it wasn't the free for all that it is being described as and was soon separated.

Now as for the football...

Ballinagh were very slow out of the blocks and after ten minutes Fingal had raced into a 4 point lead with Ballinagh yet to register a score.

Ballinagh finally got off to a start and began exerted some dominance on the game as they clawed back the lead. The sides exchanged further scores but Ballinagh proved very wasteful and scourned far too many chances and left the half time score 0-6 to 0-4 to the Dublin outfit, with Ballinagh kicking 11 wides to Fingals 1.

It was Ballinagh's turn to start quickest in the second half and soon found themselves on level terms. Ballinagh continued to have the better of their opponents but again failed to capitalise and the chance to take the lead slipped away. Fingal eventually came back into the game and proved far more clinical in front of the posts stretching the lead to 3 points.

Ballinagh pushed forward and saw one close range effort roll across the goals and wide. Shortly after this a quick interchange saw Anthony Gaynor bearing down on goal but he was taken out just outside the 14 and Ballinagh had to settle with the point to leave it 0-8 to 0-10 with a minute or two of ordinary time to play.

Gaynor was then sent off and the final minutes were played out amid pandemonium as Ballinagh went in search of a goal, and all the while the off pitch antics were kicking off.

With Ballinagh a man down they struggled to open up the Ravens defense to find the goal they desperately needed and Fingal eventually closed the deal with another point. Full-time Fingal Ravens 0-11 Ballinagh 0-8.

Fingal obviously had a lot of homework done on Ballinagh and successfully employed a lot of spoiling tactics throughout the game. Every time Ballinagh looked to be on a break they would foul and lie down for a few minutes and whereas the rule in Ulster football states that the game should continue provided it isn't a head injury, in yesterdays game this wasn't the case and the game was inundated with stoppages that really killed any momentum Ballinagh tried to build up and frustrated the hell out of them.

That said Ballinagh just didn't fire on all cylinders and had their chances but Fingal were fully deserved of their victory.

Cian McDermott was a class act in midfield yesterday, with Podge also showing some great stuff. Niall McDermott again showed some brilliant moments but he could have been given more protection from the referee.

Have to say I doubt Mr. Keoghan's plans for 2008 will include Gaynor now.

As Myles has said a very disappointing end to a great year but I hope the wiser folk on here will bare in mind that one swallow doesn't make a summer.

I'm still very proud of the team for all their achievements and I'm sure they can learn from the experience and go on to greater things.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on January 28, 2008, 04:09:57 PM
I see TG4 have delayed transmission of the Cavan Armagh match next Sunday...

http://www.tg4.ie/Spor/week.htm

I think we are in with a chance of winning this one with the Crossmaglen players missing and a Armagh team that is in transition. In fact I think it could be critical for our survival in Div 2 that we do win it.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: ExiledGael on January 28, 2008, 04:21:00 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on January 28, 2008, 04:09:57 PM
I see TG4 have delayed transmission of the Cavan Armagh match next Sunday...

http://www.tg4.ie/Spor/week.htm

I think we are in with a chance of winning this one with the Crossmaglen players missing and a Armagh team that is in transition. In fact I think it could be critical for our survival in Div 2 that we do win it.

Has a venue been confirmed for this? Might be in the area
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on January 29, 2008, 10:00:47 AM
Quote from: ExiledGael on January 28, 2008, 04:21:00 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on January 28, 2008, 04:09:57 PM
I see TG4 have delayed transmission of the Cavan Armagh match next Sunday...

http://www.tg4.ie/Spor/week.htm

I think we are in with a chance of winning this one with the Crossmaglen players missing and a Armagh team that is in transition. In fact I think it could be critical for our survival in Div 2 that we do win it.

Has a venue been confirmed for this? Might be in the area

It's in Crossmaglen at 2.30pm.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on January 29, 2008, 03:10:01 PM
Quote from: anglocelt39 on January 27, 2008, 04:28:13 PM
Our eternal optimist Cavan Maniac, he who forever thinks this is the year for the breakthrough at Under 21 level regardless of what sort of humiliation was visited upon the corresponding minor outfit, seems particularly upbeat at our chances in the grade this year.

Ach Jasus, hardly...even I'm losing the faith. Sure if they rechristened it the Cavan-only U21 championship and only Cavan could take part, we'd still lose to Cavan by a point after extra time in the Cavan final. Which would be staged in Cavan.

And yes, the optimistic part of me is hoping that this new reverse-psychology 'I've given up' approach will cause a fiendish flipping of the tide and we'll romp home at minor and U21.

I'm fierce clever altogether ;)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: shotstopper1 on January 29, 2008, 03:46:08 PM
From Hogan Stand

The following is Cavan's 29-man N.F.L. panel - James Reilly (Drung), Michael Brides (Oliver Plunketts, Dublin), Rory Dunne (Redhills), Martin Reilly (Killygarry), John McCutcheon (Cootehill), Keith Fannin (Drumgoon), Barry Watters (Drung), Lorcan Mulvey (Butlersbridge), Mark McKeever (Gowna), Micheal Lyng (Cavan Gaels), Rory Donohoe (Belturbet), Eddie O'Reilly (Mullahoran), Finbar O'Reilly (Lacken), Gerard Pierson (Gowna), Jason Reilly (Belturbet), Declan Gaffney (Crosserlough), Sean Brady (Castlerahan), Michael Hannon (Drumgoon), Darren Rabbitte (Cavan Gaels), James Carolan (Lavey), Sean Johnston (Cavan Gaels), Pauric Reilly (Ballinagh), Dermot Sheridan (Mullahoran), Ronan Flanagan (Castlerahan), John Cunningham (Swanlinbar), Conor. Smith (Cuchulainns), Sean McCormack (Ballyhaise), Mark Johnston (Cornafean) and Anthony Forde (Cavan Gaels).

So much for all the mouthing last year about the Chicago 3 not playing for Cavan again.
With Rabbitte,Dermot Sheridan, Sean McCormack and Rory Dunne also on the panel we'll surely have a full back for the championship (unlike last year).
Tough army training (presumably shooting ;D) in the Curragh on Sat left Cavan unable to field 15 v  Longford on Sunday due to injuries.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Cavanfan on January 29, 2008, 04:20:04 PM
From the Hoganstand

Cavan 29-man national league panel for the start of the league campaign
29 January 2008


The following is Cavan's 29-man N.F.L. panel - James Reilly (Drung), Michael Brides (Oliver Plunketts, Dublin), Rory Dunne (Redhills), Martin Reilly (Killygarry), John McCutcheon (Cootehill), Keith Fannin (Drumgoon), Barry Watters (Drung), Lorcan Mulvey (Butlersbridge), Mark McKeever (Gowna), Micheal Lyng (Cavan Gaels), Rory Donohoe (Belturbet), Eddie O'Reilly (Mullahoran), Finbar O'Reilly (Lacken), Gerard Pierson (Gowna), Jason Reilly (Belturbet), Declan Gaffney (Crosserlough), Sean Brady (Castlerahan), Michael Hannon (Drumgoon), Darren Rabbitte (Cavan Gaels), James Carolan (Lavey), Sean Johnston (Cavan Gaels), Pauric Reilly (Ballinagh), Dermot Sheridan (Mullahoran), Ronan Flanagan (Castlerahan), John Cunningham (Swanlinbar), Conor. Smith (Cuchulainns), Sean McCormack (Ballyhaise), Mark Johnston (Cornafean) and Anthony Forde (Cavan Gaels).

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on January 29, 2008, 05:44:46 PM
Quote from: Hollow Man on January 28, 2008, 01:00:58 PM
This "Get Sean McCormack on to the county team" internet campaign is getting ridiculous and is frankly embarrassing.

Between hogan stand and this site (not so bad on this site anymore), you'd swear he was Darren Fay.

Sorry What? Theres no campaign getting Sean onto the County team,just because a few idiots on Hoganstand write in messages doesnt make it a campaign.
Im delighted for Sean,a Nicer Lad you will not meet and a cracking footballer as well.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on January 29, 2008, 05:50:41 PM
Quote from: shotstopper1 on January 29, 2008, 03:46:08 PM
From Hogan Stand

The following is Cavan's 29-man N.F.L. panel - James Reilly (Drung), Michael Brides (Oliver Plunketts, Dublin), Rory Dunne (Redhills), Martin Reilly (Killygarry), John McCutcheon (Cootehill), Keith Fannin (Drumgoon), Barry Watters (Drung), Lorcan Mulvey (Butlersbridge), Mark McKeever (Gowna), Micheal Lyng (Cavan Gaels), Rory Donohoe (Belturbet), Eddie O'Reilly (Mullahoran), Finbar O'Reilly (Lacken), Gerard Pierson (Gowna), Jason Reilly (Belturbet), Declan Gaffney (Crosserlough), Sean Brady (Castlerahan), Michael Hannon (Drumgoon), Darren Rabbitte (Cavan Gaels), James Carolan (Lavey), Sean Johnston (Cavan Gaels), Pauric Reilly (Ballinagh), Dermot Sheridan (Mullahoran), Ronan Flanagan (Castlerahan), John Cunningham (Swanlinbar), Conor. Smith (Cuchulainns), Sean McCormack (Ballyhaise), Mark Johnston (Cornafean) and Anthony Forde (Cavan Gaels).

So much for all the mouthing last year about the Chicago 3 not playing for Cavan again.
With Rabbitte,Dermot Sheridan, Sean McCormack and Rory Dunne also on the panel we'll surely have a full back for the championship (unlike last year).
Tough army training (presumably shooting ;D) in the Curragh on Sat left Cavan unable to field 15 v  Longford on Sunday due to injuries.

Dermot Sheridan would be an excellent Cornerback on the Cavan team,but IMO isnt big enough to play full back.
would rather see Sean at Cornerback for a year to find his feet before hed move to Full, He must be performing very well in training though.
Rory Dunne is a very good footballer,but i dont know if he has the burst of speed to play Full back at IC level,Definetely a place for him on the team though.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Hollow Man on January 29, 2008, 07:06:26 PM
QuoteSorry What? Theres no campaign getting Sean onto the County team,just because a few idiots on Hoganstand write in messages doesnt make it a campaign.
Im delighted for Sean,a Nicer Lad you will not meet and a cracking footballer as well.

Sorry what me arse!

It's a bit embarrassing if you ask me, it's been going on a long time now...
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on January 30, 2008, 09:49:20 AM
Got a bit of info on the team for sunday.

Dunne, Waters, Mc Cutheon(spelling), John Cunningham all rumoured to be starting on sunday.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Hollow Man on January 30, 2008, 04:37:59 PM
I strongly doubt Dunne will start.

I'd say Brides will be corner back, Jelly Jason and Eddie in the full forward line.

Not sure where they'll put Forde, maybe wing forward?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on January 30, 2008, 05:25:54 PM
Quote from: Hollow Man on January 30, 2008, 04:37:59 PM
I strongly doubt Dunne will start.

I'd say Brides will be corner back, Jelly Jason and Eddie in the full forward line.

Not sure where they'll put Forde, maybe wing forward?

Brides is isn't fit he got knocked out cold in the dublin league final last friday night.   I have it from a good source that Dunne will be full back , Dermot sheridan is injured. No place for your friend McCormack Holllow man that must be a shock  ;).

Mulvey and John Cunningham midfield.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Hollow Man on January 30, 2008, 06:04:54 PM
Wait and see.

I reckon Brides will be in the corner (think he is fit), Sheridan full back, Watters wing back, Cunningham and Mulvey in the middle...

Martin Reilly should be a shoo in for half foward, Jayo Eddie and Jelly full forward line I would think...
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on January 30, 2008, 10:01:51 PM
Quote from: Hollow Man on January 29, 2008, 07:06:26 PM
QuoteSorry What? Theres no campaign getting Sean onto the County team,just because a few idiots on Hoganstand write in messages doesnt make it a campaign.
Im delighted for Sean,a Nicer Lad you will not meet and a cracking footballer as well.

Sorry what me arse!

It's a bit embarrassing if you ask me, it's been going on a long time now...

i dont think Donal Keoghan or his selectors read the Hoganstand though,so i dont know exactly what difference it makes? Hoganstand is full of Children.
Or do you have something personally against Sean?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on January 31, 2008, 08:11:38 AM
Quote from: Hollow Man on January 30, 2008, 06:04:54 PM
Wait and see.

I reckon Brides will be in the corner (think he is fit), Sheridan full back, Watters wing back, Cunningham and Mulvey in the middle...

Martin Reilly should be a shoo in for half foward, Jayo Eddie and Jelly full forward line I would think...

From Hoganstand
Cavan (NFL v Armagh) - J Reilly; M Brides, D Sheridan, K Fannin; B Watters, P Reilly, J McCutcheon; L Mulvey, J Cunningham; M Reilly, R Donohoe, A Forde; J O'Reilly, E O'Reilly, S Johnston.

Your info was more accurate than mine Hollow Man.


Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on January 31, 2008, 09:30:19 AM
From Hoganstand... Keoghans quote from last year is quite pathetic really

Johnston back for Cavan

Cavan's Seanie Johnston
30 January 2008


Just seven months after Donal Keoghan said that Seanie Johnston wouldn't wear a Cavan jersey again during his tenure as manager, the ace corner forward has been included in the side to face up to Armagh in their NFL Division 2 clash on Sunday.

Johnston left the Cavan squad after they exited the Ulster championship last summer and went to play football in Chicago, thus missing out on the All-Ireland qualifier loss to Mayo.

Keoghan was so infuriated at the time that he said any player who left the squad midseason to go to America would not feature under him again.

"Any fella that goes away to America won't be wearing a Cavan jersey again while I'm in charge. I'm very hurt about it. There's definitely no way they'll be back playing while I'm in charge," said Keoghan in June 2007 after Johnston, Paul Brady and Martin Cahill dropped off his squad.

However, Johnston returned to Ireland play a staring role as Cavan Gaels landed the county crown and he excelled for DCU in this year's O'Byrne Cup. That form has seen the forward recalled in a side that included three debutants.

Wing backs Barry Watters and John McCutcheon make their first starts after impressing as the Breffni County made it to the semi-finals of the Dr. McKenna Cup.

John Cunningham is called up in midfield to partner Lorcan Mulvey.

Cavan (NFL v Armagh) - J Reilly; M Brides, D Sheridan, K Fannin; B Watters, P Reilly, J McCutcheon; L Mulvey, J Cunningham; M Reilly, R Donohoe, A Forde; J O'Reilly, E O'Reilly, S Johnston.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: LackenLegend on January 31, 2008, 09:37:53 AM
I hear Martin Cahill was brought in for three trainings (1 week) and was told he was cut from the panel. I'd say there is more to that than meets the eye. Spite maybe. Also, i heard the departure of Nicholas Walsh has more to it. I won't say what happened but it looks bad on the manager. Why are they putting Martin Reilly back into the forwards after playing him corner back for the last couple games? Why is Anthomy Forde playing? Who am i? Are those my feet?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on January 31, 2008, 10:45:25 AM
There have certainly been some strange goings on. I heard the same about Cahill alright. Then there were two guys from our parish on the initial team. Austin Fitz who played some part in 3 McKenna cup games and then got cut and Mark Johnston who didn't play in any games and he stays on the panel. If it was anyone but Keoghan I would give him the benefit of the doubt but I don't think I trust Keoghans judgement. Mulvey and Cunningham at midfield worries me greatly. Mulvey big but slow and Cunningham very inexperienced. We could be taken to the cleaners in there. I am less optomistic that we can get something from this game.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on January 31, 2008, 10:55:28 AM
Quote from: LackenLegend on January 31, 2008, 09:37:53 AM
I hear Martin Cahill was brought in for three trainings (1 week) and was told he was cut from the panel. I'd say there is more to that than meets the eye. Spite maybe. Also, i heard the departure of Nicholas Walsh has more to it. I won't say what happened but it looks bad on the manager. Why are they putting Martin Reilly back into the forwards after playing him corner back for the last couple games? Why is Anthomy Forde playing? Who am i? Are those my feet?

It looks like Cahill may have been just brought in so he could be dropped he was giving no playing time and should have been let work on his fitness.  I haven't heard much about the Walsh thing but if there is more to im sure it will come out eventully.  Martin Reilly, id rather see him  in the forwards anyway but the only reason he might have been playing corner back was to see if he could play there if required.  As for Forde i don't think he is worth a place.  The last while all he does is turn ref's against Cavan with mouthing and constant fouling.   Midfied is a worry i don't know much about John Cunningham.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Hollow Man on January 31, 2008, 12:15:02 PM
Quotedont think Donal Keoghan or his selectors read the Hoganstand though,so i dont know exactly what difference it makes? Hoganstand is full of Children.
Or do you have something personally against Sean?

Sure I have never met you...
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on January 31, 2008, 12:24:42 PM
Quote from: Hollow Man on January 31, 2008, 12:15:02 PM
Quotedont think Donal Keoghan or his selectors read the Hoganstand though,so i dont know exactly what difference it makes? Hoganstand is full of Children.
Or do you have something personally against Sean?

Sure I have never met you...

Careful now !!!!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on January 31, 2008, 12:27:59 PM
For anyone not going to the game sunday this is bound to be better than Northern Sound.

Sunday Sportsound returns to BBC Radio Ulster medium wave this week for the start of the National Football League. The programme will have a fixed time-slot of 2.02 to 5pm every Sunday afternoon for the entire season on 1341 MW There will also be a results round-up in the evening at 6.07 on MW and FM.

The programme will aim to have a strong sportsnews content - with GAA at the heart of it.

We'll be featuring five live matches during our first programme.
The main commentary game will be Armagh v Cavan at Crossmaglen. There will also be a commentary team in Clones for Monaghan's meeting with Roscommon.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on January 31, 2008, 01:02:13 PM
J Reilly; M Brides, D Sheridan, K Fannin; B Watters, P Reilly, J McCutcheon; L Mulvey, J Cunningham; M Reilly, R Donohoe, A Forde; J O'Reilly, E O'Reilly, S Johnston.

They should have put Barry Watters up to wing forward and kept Martin Reily in the Backs, Watters is a great footballer,but i dont think he has the defensive qualities at this time to play in the backs at IC Level.

Mulvey,Cunningham midfield is big,but wouldnt be the most mobile as has been said before.

You would think Keoghan would know by now Rory Donohoe isnt an IC Centre Forward.

Should be tried as a wing back or nowehere.

dont think Forde should be on the Cavan team anymore, agree with C4ever, he offers nothing but jawing at the referee

Quote from: Hollow Man on January 31, 2008, 12:15:02 PM
Quotedont think Donal Keoghan or his selectors read the Hoganstand though,so i dont know exactly what difference it makes? Hoganstand is full of Children.
Or do you have something personally against Sean?

Sure I have never met you...

;D  ;D  ;D Nice response HM

ive now been accused of being Fergal Slowey and Sean McCormack on this board  :D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Hollow Man on January 31, 2008, 02:19:40 PM
I wouldnt be that quick to write off Forde, he's in good nick and brings a lot of experience. He'd definitely be ahead of Watters (far too light as of now) for me.

As for the midfield - the worst to line out for Cavan since McCrudden/Doonan a few years ago? I'd say McCrudden/Doonan were better actually...

I think Sean McCormack should be played as the entire full back line which would allow us two extra forwards. The lad is that good...

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on January 31, 2008, 02:27:55 PM
Quote from: Hollow Man on January 31, 2008, 02:19:40 PM
I wouldnt be that quick to write off Forde, he's in good nick and brings a lot of experience. He'd definitely be ahead of Watters (far too light as of now) for me.

As for the midfield - the worst to line out for Cavan since McCrudden/Doonan a few years ago? I'd say McCrudden/Doonan were better actually...

I think Sean McCormack should be played as the entire full back line which would allow us two extra forwards. The lad is that good...



Sorry i have to disagree HM,Forde offers nothing to the Cavan team, he doesnt have the very good speed he had a few years, hes never had great feet, and he continuously barks at referees aswell as tackling with a closed fist most of the time.

as for the Midfield,
well we are quite limited in that particular area to be fair,Might as well Give those two a chance, although a bit like Mulvey last year against Down, i dont think either will have the legs for the hard ground come championship time.
id say we should play Sean on his own against Antrim,well maybe with Miller in goals, and rest all the other  players for the Armagh game, Hes quite obviously that good that he can beat a whole county team on his own....

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on January 31, 2008, 02:57:33 PM
Lets wait and see
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Mr. Pain on January 31, 2008, 04:11:24 PM
Jibber jabber and blabber! Hollow Man flyin' in with these accusations about this Sean guy. Maybe im Sean. Maybe Ballyhaise dude is actually a little old lady wearing very old panties, with a hole in them because she can't control her bladder or bowel movements. Lets talk about the game guys. We have a very average team and a below average manager to play Armagh on Sunday. I say it's up to us to win the game. Go support the guys, i don't care if it's a flamin' piece of shit wearing a blue jersey, you support it. Mr. Pain will be there with Mrs. Pain and the Paininis. He'll be the one wearing the Cavan jersey beneath the trenchcoat. Rant over!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on January 31, 2008, 04:40:07 PM
There is traditionally a lot of guys wearing trench coats in the cross area  ;) You might be hard to spot. You are right though, we must support the team anyway. I think there will be a good crowd travelling over. It is the 1st league campaign in 3-4 years where we get to play some of the heavyweights of football so hopefully we do the county justice.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on January 31, 2008, 05:21:16 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on January 31, 2008, 04:40:07 PM
It is the 1st league campaign in 3-4 years where we get to play some of the heavyweights of football so hopefully we do the county justice.

The mystery behind Lorcan Mulvey's selection, revealed at last...

Very dodgy-looking midfield. If it was a pie-eating contest I'd fancy Mulvey but then again he might be too slow to get to the table ahead of younger more fleet of foot opponents. Ach sure he has to be given a go I suppose, he can only improve and if he'd only do some real training he'd be a worthwhile addition, possibly an option at no.14 maybe.

I haven't seen Cunningham (was he U21 last year, no?) or any of the other new lads yet so I'll hold fire until after Sunday before passing judgement...

I am mystified by Rory Donohoe's persistent selection though, he has never looked the first cousin of a decent county footballer, and nobody here had a good word about his McKenna campaign. Ho-hum, we'll wait and see.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on February 01, 2008, 10:31:17 AM
Keogan welcomes Johnston back into the fold
01 February 2008

Cavan football boss Donal Keogan says it's time to let bygones be bygones and move on after ace attacker Sean Johnston apologised to the team-management and his team-mates.

Johnston - and team mates Paul Brady and Martin Cahill - quit the panel last year after the Ulster SFC and didn't hang around for the qualifiers, preferring to travel to the US for a holiday. At that juncture, team-manager said all three wouldn't play for Cavan again while he was manager.

However things have been patched up . . .at least with Johnston.

"On the spur of the moment you say things," Keogan admitted. "Seanie Johnston is a talent. I am big enough to realise he is a scoring forward which are scarce in Cavan.

"He was wrong at the time. He accepts he was wrong. He came back in and apologised to everybody concerned and let's move on for the good of Cavan football."

---------------------------------------------------------------------------


Quote"Donal Keogan says it's time to let bygones be bygones and move on.....

......... provided you have a sufficient amount of talent of course!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Mr. Pain on February 01, 2008, 11:07:23 AM
Quote
There is traditionally a lot of guys wearing trench coats in the cross area  ;)
Mr. Pain's trenchcoat is not like any other. It is very distinct. It has more pockets than your traditional trenchcoat plus a lovely furry lining in the pockets which feel good on my skin....... >:( This ain't no fashion parade. I'd whoop those wannabee Mr. Pains with my eylids so you better hope you're not around when Mr. Pain decides to blink. Mr. Pain will self-destruct in 30 seconds if he doesn't take his tranquiliser. Rant over!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Davitt Man on February 01, 2008, 11:10:22 AM
Just a quick word on the club scene in Cavan. How are kildallon coming on, could they challenege for a Junior C\Ship this year?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on February 01, 2008, 12:21:06 PM
Potential disaster area. In fairness to DK he's gone at it since he came in, but a bit in the fashion of somebody chucking money into a one armed bandit machine-Thomas, Jonny Crowe, Nico Walsh, Michael Cunningham, Mulvey, McCabe, Cullivan, McKeever, Gaffney, now the other Cunningham lad, Mulvey was such a disaster the first day against Down last year that Galligan was brought in for the replay and hasn't been heard tell of since.

One of the problems with all of this is that a new lad has to be given a chance to settle in. Look at Pierce McKenna as the classic example. He was fairly limited, got a few years to prove himself and we'd be glad of him now. That's what makes it a bit of a shame that Michael Cunningham and Jonny Crowe don't seem to be in the frame at all this year. They were probably the two introductions that came closest to making an impression last year (Cunningham until he got injured midway through the league) and might have come on a bit with another year.

As regards midfield-Sean Brady might be your best bet since he seems to have nailed down that position when he was with UCD, pity he's injured so much.

Watters and Martin Reilly-young and light????????? oh no, not again.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on February 01, 2008, 12:32:39 PM
According to the Armagh thread this the orchard team for Sunday ...

McKinney

McNulty
Donaghy
Moriarty

Duffy
O'Rourke
Smyth

McGrane (c)
O'Neill

Mallon
McKeever
O'Rourke

Swift
Clarke
McDonnell

Some new faces but the Armagh posters seem to reckon it's a fairly strong lineout.

Re: anglocelt69: Michael Cunningham is out injured at the moment but is still training as part of the panel. In fact I believe the three brothers (Michael, Mark and John) are all part of the panel now.

Quote from: Davitt Man on February 01, 2008, 11:10:22 AM
Just a quick word on the club scene in Cavan. How are kildallon coming on, could they challenege for a Junior C\Ship this year?

To be honest I don't much about Kildallen but I doubt they'll be in the running for the Junior champ this year, it will be one of Shannon Gaels, Cornafean or Munterconnaught.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on February 01, 2008, 12:38:53 PM
Quote from: Homer on February 01, 2008, 12:32:39 PM
To be honest I don't much about Kildallen but I doubt they'll be in the running for the Junior champ this year, it will be one of Shannon Gaels, Cornafean or Munterconnaught.


:o :o :o :o :o    >:( >:(
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on February 01, 2008, 12:39:54 PM
Quote from: cavan4ever on February 01, 2008, 12:38:53 PM
Quote from: Homer on February 01, 2008, 12:32:39 PM
To be honest I don't much about Kildallen but I doubt they'll be in the running for the Junior champ this year, it will be one of Shannon Gaels, Cornafean or Munterconnaught.


:o :o :o :o :o   

Your a betting man Homer i will put a wager on with you that it wont be one of those 3
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on February 01, 2008, 01:23:30 PM
Quote from: anglocelt39 on February 01, 2008, 12:21:06 PM
Mulvey was such a disaster the first day against Down last year that Galligan was brought in for the replay and hasn't been heard tell of since.

Galligan is no loss. A windier, scaredy cat, shivering, quaking waste of space as I've never seen in a blue jersey before. Absolutely afraid of his living life, and the size of him!!!!

I can't for the life of me figure out what happened to Johnny Crowe though. A teak tough customer who was really starting to come into his own I thought and a strong man we are desperately in need of around the middle sector. Is he a victim of the policy you indentified of playing ball-carriers as opposed to defenders in the half back line?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on February 01, 2008, 01:46:40 PM
Quote from: cavan4ever on February 01, 2008, 12:39:54 PM
Quote from: Homer on February 01, 2008, 12:32:39 PM
To be honest I don't much about Kildallen but I doubt they'll be in the running for the Junior champ this year, it will be one of Shannon Gaels, Cornafean or Munterconnaught.


:o :o :o :o :o   

Your a betting man Homer i will put a wager on with you that it wont be one of those 3

:D

Apologies cavan4ever I forgot who went down this year.

Down to Bunnoe the junior champ will go!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on February 01, 2008, 01:55:45 PM
Quote from: Homer on February 01, 2008, 01:46:40 PM
Quote from: cavan4ever on February 01, 2008, 12:39:54 PM
Quote from: Homer on February 01, 2008, 12:32:39 PM
To be honest I don't much about Kildallen but I doubt they'll be in the running for the Junior champ this year, it will be one of Shannon Gaels, Cornafean or Munterconnaught.


:o :o :o :o :o   

Your a betting man Homer i will put a wager on with you that it wont be one of those 3

:D

Apologies cavan4ever I forgot who went down this year.

Down to Bunnoe the junior champ will go!
Our new manager has  3 all-ireland club medals and about 10 County championships so he know a thing or 2 about winning so hopeful he can work with players who are so used to losing finals  :-\ .


Johnny Crowe has groin injury but is doing light training with county.


Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on February 01, 2008, 01:58:16 PM
Keoghan reveals all - Seanie apologised??

Keogan welcomes Johnston back into the fold

Cavan manager Donal Keoghan
01 February 2008


Cavan football boss Donal Keogan says it's time to let bygones be bygones and move on after ace attacker Sean Johnston apologised to the team-management and his team-mates.

Johnston - and team mates Paul Brady and Martin Cahill - quit the panel last year after the Ulster SFC and didn't hang around for the qualifiers, preferring to travel to the US for a holiday. At that juncture, team-manager said all three wouldn't play for Cavan again while he was manager.

However things have been patched up . . .at least with Johnston.

"On the spur of the moment you say things," Keogan admitted. "Seanie Johnston is a talent. I am big enough to realise he is a scoring forward which are scarce in Cavan.

"He was wrong at the time. He accepts he was wrong. He came back in and apologised to everybody concerned and let's move on for the good of Cavan football."
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on February 01, 2008, 02:46:37 PM
i hear Gaynor was to be brought back into County Training the day or two after the Ballinagh game if they had lost,But after his behaviour,Keoghan has decided to forget about him altogether.

Homer
Also heard some of the Fingal Ravens players gave Podge disgusting abuse over his deceased mother.  Scumbags

League starting back 9th of March, Championship 24th or last week of July, Entire league to be finished before championship starts.
Under 21 championship to be played mid week in the summer.
Great stuff,Season will be over once the county finals end in early October. No More November and December games.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on February 01, 2008, 02:57:38 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on February 01, 2008, 02:46:37 PM
i hear Gaynor was to be brought back into County Training the day or two after the Ballinagh game if they had lost,But after his behaviour,Keoghan has decided to forget about him altogether.

Homer
Also heard some of the Fingal Ravens players gave Podge disgusting abuse over his deceased mother.  Scumbags


That is sick i hope they get hammered in the final, i have no time for that sort of abuse.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on February 01, 2008, 03:05:22 PM
Galligan is no loss. A windier, scaredy cat, shivering, quaking waste of space as I've never seen in a blue jersey before. Absolutely afraid of his living life, and the size of him!!!!


Ah yes, the sheer joy of being a Cavan inter county footballer. The opportunity to cop personalised, gratuitous abuse from the giants of the GAA that inhabit this thread. Think we should confine that sort of stuff to Christiano Ronaldo and his ilk who at least can console themselves with an inflated pay packet.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on February 01, 2008, 03:21:33 PM
I actually forgot to mention earlier that Gaynor has been handed a 3 month ban, mainly for the dissent he gave to the umpire after his sending off. Although I think Keoghan was dropping him anyway.

I'm still not sure whether or not I should mention the name of the main culprit last Sunday, so I will leave it out but he did receive a life time ban from the county board but apparently this just means that he can't become a member of any club and can still attend games.  >:(

Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on February 01, 2008, 02:46:37 PM
Also heard some of the Fingal Ravens players gave Podge disgusting abuse over his deceased mother.  Scumbags

I haven't heard this myself HaiseMan. There was a large element of goading / sledging going on alright but I don't know did it reach these levels.

Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on February 01, 2008, 02:46:37 PM
Great stuff,Season will be over once the county finals end in early October. No More November and December games.

Don't hold your breath on that one.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on February 01, 2008, 03:25:06 PM
Quote from: Homer on February 01, 2008, 03:21:33 PM


I'm still not sure whether or not I should mention the name of the main culprit last Sunday, so I will leave it out but he did receive a life time ban from the county board but apparently this just means that he can't become a member of any club and can still attend games.  >:(


You on about the fella that hit the umpire?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on February 01, 2008, 03:26:54 PM
Quote from: Homer on February 01, 2008, 03:21:33 PM
I actually forgot to mention earlier that Gaynor has been handed a 3 month ban, mainly for the dissent he gave to the umpire after his sending off. Although I think Keoghan was dropping him anyway.

I'm still not sure whether or not I should mention the name of the main culprit last Sunday, so I will leave it out but he did receive a life time ban from the county board but apparently this just means that he can't become a member of any club and can still attend games.  >:(

Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on February 01, 2008, 02:46:37 PM
Also heard some of the Fingal Ravens players gave Podge disgusting abuse over his deceased mother.  Scumbags

I haven't heard this myself HaiseMan. There was a large element of goading / sledging going on alright but I don't know did it reach these levels.

Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on February 01, 2008, 02:46:37 PM
Great stuff,Season will be over once the county finals end in early October. No More November and December games.

Don't hold your breath on that one.

Thing is a lifetime ban from all GAA games would be nie on impossible to keep. We all know the identity of him by now,Wouldnt go naming him incase there is legal proceedings taken by the umpire against him,could cause problems etc etc just to cover yourself.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on February 01, 2008, 03:28:18 PM
He was named in some of the local papers but that wasn't right either.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on February 01, 2008, 04:56:49 PM
Quote from: anglocelt39 on February 01, 2008, 03:05:22 PM
Galligan is no loss. A windier, scaredy cat, shivering, quaking waste of space as I've never seen in a blue jersey before. Absolutely afraid of his living life, and the size of him!!!!


Ah yes, the sheer joy of being a Cavan inter county footballer. The opportunity to cop personalised, gratuitous abuse from the giants of the GAA that inhabit this thread. Think we should confine that sort of stuff to Christiano Ronaldo and his ilk who at least can console themselves with an inflated pay packet.

Have you seen him play? If I said it nicer and that he was "slightly lacking in intestinal fortitude", it still amounts to the same. The guy's afraid, end of, has no business near a county team.

And anyway, it was more a criticism of Keogan's selecting of him than the player himself per se.

I find your 'giants of the GAA' taunt a little ironic as well given that the majority of your own ever-so-slightly judgemental posts are offered mainly to point out the perceived flaws in others', but it's a board and it's about opinions at the end of the day. 
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on February 01, 2008, 05:02:53 PM
Quote from: cavanmaniac on February 01, 2008, 04:56:49 PM
Quote from: anglocelt39 on February 01, 2008, 03:05:22 PM
Galligan is no loss. A windier, scaredy cat, shivering, quaking waste of space as I've never seen in a blue jersey before. Absolutely afraid of his living life, and the size of him!!!!


Ah yes, the sheer joy of being a Cavan inter county footballer. The opportunity to cop personalised, gratuitous abuse from the giants of the GAA that inhabit this thread. Think we should confine that sort of stuff to Christiano Ronaldo and his ilk who at least can console themselves with an inflated pay packet.

Have you seen him play? If I said it nicer and that he was "slightly lacking in intestinal fortitude", it still amounts to the same. The guy's afraid, end of, has no business near a county team.

And anyway, it was more a criticism of Keogan's selecting of him than the player himself per se.

I find your 'giants of the GAA' taunt a little ironic as well given that the majority of your own ever-so-slightly judgemental posts are offered mainly to point out the perceived flaws in others', but it's a board and it's about opinions at the end of the day. 

I'd agree that he isn't up to county standard but i don't think it's fair on the lad to say them things about him.  You wouldn't find anyone more dedicated than him but as you said it's keoghan who picked him.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on February 01, 2008, 05:09:52 PM
Yer that's what I meant really only it came out a bit sour because I remember being incredibly frustrated by him in Newry. Just wouldn't put a hand on anyone, shocking stuff...
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Hollow Man on February 01, 2008, 06:25:53 PM
Maniac your extremely personal abuse of Ciaran Galligan is way out of order.

QuoteI can't for the life of me figure out what happened to Johnny Crowe though. A teak tough customer who was really starting to come into his own I thought and a strong man we are desperately in need of around the middle sector. Is he a victim of the policy you indentified of playing ball-carriers as opposed to defenders in the half back line?

The above quote shows that you haven't a clue of what's going on in Cavan football either – if you can't "for the life of you" figure that Crowe is out injured, or ask somebody, then it doesn't say much for your knowledge.

If you must have an opinion (albeit a clearly uninformed one), try not to make personal attacks on an amateur player.

It's all well and good saying a fella is not fit, or is unreliable or whatever, but describing a young player as "a windy, scaredy cat, shivering, quaking waste of space" is offensive.

By the way, do you regard yourself as a "supporter" of the Cavan team?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on February 01, 2008, 06:43:47 PM
Ciaran Galligan needs to put on about 1 stone of pure mass and start horsing everyone out of it around the midfield area. Aka do what Mulvey does.
Hes too loose of  footballer for an IC Midfielder,Hes not a coward,but he gives me the impression of someone who is very laid back.Good Footballer who i have a lot of time for and have played against countless times from juvenille to senior level.
still think hed be worth a try at Full Forward in the next year or two because at 6'5 and athletic, hed be a handful to anyone.

anyone else goin on Sunday, decided i would. but not expecting aything out of it against a stronger than usual(for this time of year) Armagh team.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on February 01, 2008, 09:21:39 PM
Christ Maniac you're dog rough altogether when you take the rise. I'm sitting here feeling like a novice Fine Gael politician that's just gone 15 bruising rounds with Micheal McDowell. Think I'll get over it.

Anyway, since I kicked this off, unwittingly this morning let me try to help put it to bed.

Firstly all the regular posters here have something in common, we are all passionate Cavan GAA people in our own way, some of us smack bang in the middle of it, some of us removed. Sometimes we post things that reflect that passion. Have we said worse about players at a game-yes, have some of us said worse in the pub with a skinful on board-me definitely. Now call me old fashioned, which I am, but I find the Net a bit of a cruel forum by times in that the posted word stays there for all to see.

Anway, down out of the pulpit, off with the dog collar now because I'm off for a skinful.

Here's hoping for Sunday.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: CC1 on February 02, 2008, 03:27:19 AM
Quote from: Homer on February 01, 2008, 01:46:40 PM
Quote from: cavan4ever on February 01, 2008, 12:39:54 PM
Quote from: Homer on February 01, 2008, 12:32:39 PM
To be honest I don't much about Kildallen but I doubt they'll be in the running for the Junior champ this year, it will be one of Shannon Gaels, Cornafean or Munterconnaught.


:o :o :o :o :o   

Your a betting man Homer i will put a wager on with you that it wont be one of those 3

:D

Apologies cavan4ever I forgot who went down this year.

Down to Bunnoe the junior champ will go!
Me arse!  >:( >:(  ;)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on February 02, 2008, 03:13:53 PM
Quote from: CC1 on February 02, 2008, 03:27:19 AM
Quote from: Homer on February 01, 2008, 01:46:40 PM
Quote from: cavan4ever on February 01, 2008, 12:39:54 PM
Quote from: Homer on February 01, 2008, 12:32:39 PM
To be honest I don't much about Kildallen but I doubt they'll be in the running for the Junior champ this year, it will be one of Shannon Gaels, Cornafean or Munterconnaught.


:o :o :o :o :o   

Your a betting man Homer i will put a wager on with you that it wont be one of those 3



:D

Apologies cavan4ever I forgot who went down this year.

Down to Bunnoe the junior champ will go!
Me arse!  >:( >:(  ;)

lol...  u might have a chance if u get new gloves
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on February 02, 2008, 03:38:15 PM
You're all dead right, looking back now it was harsh of me, too personalised and, I hope, out of character. Expunge it from the record m'luds, I was having a "dog rough" day as the man said.

@Hollowman, I'm in exile so cut me some slack on Johnny Crowe, I was only going by the 29-man panel and McKenna cup lineouts on previous pages.

As for being uninformed, I or many others hadn't heard of this campaign you mentioned either, but that'd be my cloth ears again I guess although maybe it shows we can all overegg the pudding sometimes:

"This "Get Sean McCormack on to the county team" internet campaign is getting ridiculous and is frankly embarrassing.

Between hogan stand and this site (not so bad on this site anymore), you'd swear he was Darren Fay."
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on February 02, 2008, 09:22:25 PM
Team for tomorrow is as cavan4ever described.

J Reilly; M Hannon, R Dunne, K Fannin; B Watters, P O'Reilly, J McCutcheon; L Mulvey, J Cunningham; M Reilly, R Donohoe, A Forde; J O'Reilly, E O'Reilly, S Johnston.

Podge has been named vice-captain for the year and so will take over duties from McKeever for tomorrow.

County u21s had a run out against Sligo today. Don't have time to write much of a report but they were diabolic in the first half and went in at the break 1-5 to 0-2. Played much better in the 2nd half and really should have won the game but it finished all square, Cavan 0-12 Sligo 1-9.

Team was

Simon Delaney (Killenkere)
Dane O'Dowd (Drumlane)
Sean McCormack (Ballyhaise)
Damien Reilly (Belturbet)
Niall O'Reilly (Ballinagh)
Stephan Connolly (Ramor)
James McEvoy (Crosserlough)
Fiachra Cork (Castlerahen)
Pauric Smith (Castlerahen)
Paddy Byrd (Bailieborough)
Tomas Reilly (Killeshandra)
Paddy Brady (Mullahoran)
Cian Mackey (Castlerahen)
Martin Dunne (Cavan Gaels)
Aido Cole (Ramor)

Subs
James McEnroe (Mountnugent)
Daniel Graham (Cavan Gaels)
Levi Murphy (Cavan Gaels)
Conor Smith (Cuchuillainns)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on February 03, 2008, 12:15:45 PM
Thanks for that Homer. That's a surprisingly low number of Gaels for a Cavan underage team. Interested to hear your low-down when you have time.

J Reilly; M Brides, D Sheridan, K Fannin; B Watters, P Reilly, J McCutcheon; L Mulvey, J Cunningham; M Reilly, R Donohoe, A Forde; J O'Reilly, E O'Reilly, S Johnston.

What happened the pair above since the first team was named?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Hollow Man on February 03, 2008, 10:07:55 PM
Jesus the ref bulled us from behind today!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on February 04, 2008, 08:29:27 AM
Quote from: Hollow Man on February 03, 2008, 10:07:55 PM
Jesus the ref bulled us from behind today!

He was a disgrace, in the first half he wasn't bad but as soon as the second half started he gave everything he could to Armagh. 

Could have got a hammering up there if they had off took all there chances in the first half.   
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Cavanfan on February 04, 2008, 09:43:47 AM
Neither Brides or Sherdian were togged out yest. As far as I know Sherdian is injured.

Yes indeed the referee was awful yesterday in the 2nd half especially. However, if all the Armagh frees had gone over yest the result of the game would have been alot different.

Some decent enough performances from some of the lads in the first half.

Good to see a good crowd at it even with the terrible conditions and considering it was on TV later in the evening.

Hopefully we can get a good performance in two weeks at home to our near neighbours!!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: shotstopper1 on February 04, 2008, 10:21:29 AM
Quote from: Cavanfan on February 04, 2008, 09:43:47 AM
Neither Brides or Sherdian were togged out yest. As far as I know Sherdian is injured.


Brides was injured during the week playing for his club (St Oliver Plunkett's) in the Dublin league final,a game in which they beat St Vincents 2-13 to 1-7.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on February 04, 2008, 01:40:16 PM
Very disappointing second half performance i must say, Encouraging first half.

Seanie Johnston, Martin Reily and John McCutcheon for me were all outstanding.

Midfield absolutely non existant.


Miller, absolutely brilliant, Best Goalkeeper in Ireland and its not even close.

Backs very shaky, only for Armagh continuously screwing up and Miller, there could have been 5 goals back there.

Rory Dunne isnt the answer at Full Back does too much ball watching and isnt fast enough, im afraid we need either Colm Hannon  Rabbitte or move Podge back there
Michael Hannon done good enough job on McDonnel but he Hannon didnt look very fit,which is understandable for this time of year.

Keith Fannin got a bit of a run around by Gareth Swift and was taken off.

the place for Barry Watters is in the forward line,talented football player but not a Wing Back.

Podge played ok,had to curtail himself a bit after the booking and we didnt see too much of him in the 2nd half.

McCutcheon outstanding.

Mulvey and Cunningham done absolutely nothing at Midfield. not looking good for the Monaghan game with Eoin Lennon dominating there for them.

Martin Reily,kicked 4 wonderful points,workrate phenomonal as well.

Rory Donohoe, surely by now the selectors have discovered hes not an IC Forward, either a wing back or nothing. Contributed next to nothing.

Anthony Forde, done ntohing but mouth at referee and foul.

Seanie Johnston, outstanding scoring 1-4,with little support in the full forward line.

Eddie, not an IC full forward, hes either a wing forward or shouldnt be there,Non existant.

Jason, see Eddie, done nothing,behind his man constantly aswell.


Subs

Michael Lyng, played ok, got on a lot of ball, probably the only answer for the 11 jersey that we have. Has to start the next day if fit.

gerard Pierson, wasted the only two balls which he got.

Sean Brady, wasted the one ball he got,but wasnt on for too long

Michael Cunningham, wasnt on for long.

 
Team for the next day for me should be

1. James Reily
2. Michael Hannon
3. Padraic Reily
4. Dermot Sheridan
5. John McCutcheon
6. Rory Donohoe
7. John Cunningham
8. Declan Gaffney
9.  Michael Cunningham
10. Sean Brady
11. Michael Lyng
12. Barry Watters
13. Seanie Johnston
14. Gerard Pierson
15. Martin Reily


Eddie,
Jason
Forde
Mulvey and Fannin on the bench to bring on.

cant believe im saying this, but with McCabe out injured, we could do with Nicholas Walsh for midfield.  :o
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on February 04, 2008, 02:19:30 PM
James Reilly - Some excellent shot-stopping, good kick-outs. Still fills me with anxiety when on the ball though.

Keith Fannin - Made some good runs up the field and used the ball well when we were in possession but was found loose when Armagh threatened. Gifted the orchard boys a few scorable frees and was lucky that they didn't oblige. Replaced just before half-time.

Rory Dunne - Armaghs first half goal chance and penalty came off him standing to far in front of Clarke. Will have to get much tighter if he is going to hold the position. Made good use of the ball when in possession.

Michael Hannon - Had the unenviable task of picking up McDonnell. Caught out in the second-half when making a break up the field and left McDonnell to take an easy point. Will need a few more games.

Barry Watters - Decent game driving forward but the constant push up the field by himself and McCutcheon left serious gaps in the defense. Unlucky to see a last gasp effort fly over the bar.

Padraic O'Reilly - Done well in the first half at CHB. Moved to Corner/Full Back in place of Fannin. Originally done well on Swift who was then replaced but struggled when the big midfielder moved in on him.

John McCutcheon - Scored an excellent point and always made him self available when driving forward. Needs to work on discipline as he had an important free brought on for descent.

Lorcan Mulvey - Very poor, didn't win anything from kick-outs and was always behind the play.

John Cunningham - Got more involved than Mulvey but again nothing from kick-outs.

Martin Reilly - Some excellent scores yesterday but his man done a lot of damage driving forward in the second half.

Rory Donohoe - The facade cannot continue, contributed very little and was destroyed by his man on the back-foot. Would expect Lyng to start in his place next time out.

Anthony Forde - Done ok in the first half when WHF but lazily kicked a ball wide from the wing when we had men over. Often found loose when moved to CHB. Made Jelly and Co. work hard by ballooning balls in.

Sean Johnston - Always dangerous and along with Martin Reilly our only threat up front. Had to work hard for a free but needs to keep the head when things don't go his way.

Eddie Reilly - Never in the game and should have been replaced earlier.

Jason Reilly - Like Eddie Reilly very poor. Missed two goal chances the second one fortunately falling to Jelly to poach home.

Subs

Micky Lyng - Looked the part when introduced always available and made good usage of the ball. Did make the criminal mistake of dropping one ball into the keepers hands near the end.

Gerard Pierson - Despite coming on late he gained a fair bit of possession and looked lively but failed to translate any of this into anything.

Sean Brady - Encouraging to see him return. Not on long enough to comment much.

As I've said Rory Donohoe just isn't up to it and surely now Keoghan will act on this.

McCutcheon and Watters need to take turns when driving forward, countless scores in second half came from the full forward line just laying it off/ breaking it down to the Armagh half forwards for them to slot it over the bar.

Midfield was a disaster but in fairness our half-forward and half-back line were as bad with the breaks.

Bar Seanie Johnston and Martin Reilly none of the other forwards ever looked like scoring.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on February 04, 2008, 03:53:00 PM
Hear Padraic Smith of Castlerahan on the County under 21's is playing good stuff at midfield, but hes a bit small for midfield as well just around 6 ft 6'1 mark.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on February 04, 2008, 04:00:22 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on February 04, 2008, 03:53:00 PM
Hear Padraic Smith of Castlerahan on the County under 21's is playing good stuff at midfield, but hes a bit small for midfield as well just around 6 ft 6'1 mark.



Would Mulvey be much bigger than that?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Mr. Pain on February 04, 2008, 04:03:54 PM
Painful result. >:(
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on February 04, 2008, 04:34:18 PM
Quote from: cavan4ever on February 04, 2008, 04:00:22 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on February 04, 2008, 03:53:00 PM
Hear Padraic Smith of Castlerahan on the County under 21's is playing good stuff at midfield, but hes a bit small for midfield as well just around 6 ft 6'1 mark.



Would Mulvey be much bigger than that?

Mulvey is about 6'2 C4ever and is about 15 Stone(according to last years match progrmme against Down wich had him at 15 and a half)

hes big enough but he needs to be both fitter and a good bit lighter,

Anthony Tohill in his prime was 15 stone, but he was 6'4
hes a lot bigger of a man than Mulvey.


Padraic Smith would be about 6ft and 13 stone, great fielder and very fast,but not big enough for IC Midfield unless he has a man mountain beside him.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on February 04, 2008, 04:50:09 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on February 04, 2008, 04:34:18 PM
Quote from: cavan4ever on February 04, 2008, 04:00:22 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on February 04, 2008, 03:53:00 PM
Hear Padraic Smith of Castlerahan on the County under 21's is playing good stuff at midfield, but hes a bit small for midfield as well just around 6 ft 6'1 mark.



Would Mulvey be much bigger than that?

Mulvey is about 6'2 C4ever and is about 15 Stone(according to last years match progrmme against Down wich had him at 15 and a half)

hes big enough but he needs to be both fitter and a good bit lighter,

Anthony Tohill in his prime was 15 stone, but he was 6'4
hes a lot bigger of a man than Mulvey.


Padraic Smith would be about 6ft and 13 stone, great fielder and very fast,but not big enough for IC Midfield unless he has a man mountain beside him.


So where you think McKeever should play when he is back. I think he should be centre or wing-half back.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on February 04, 2008, 04:53:36 PM
it we cant find a full back

its Podge at Full Back

and Mark McKeever at Centre Half Back for me,

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on February 04, 2008, 04:55:26 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on February 04, 2008, 04:53:36 PM
it we cant find a full back

its Podge at Full Back

and Mark McKeever at Centre Half Back for me,


Are we ever going to find a full back  :-[
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on February 04, 2008, 04:57:09 PM
Quote from: cavan4ever on February 04, 2008, 04:55:26 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on February 04, 2008, 04:53:36 PM
it we cant find a full back

its Podge at Full Back

and Mark McKeever at Centre Half Back for me,


Are we ever going to find a full back  :-[

we had a good one in Darren Rabbitte,but he just cant stay healthy

wouldnt mind seeing Colm Hannon given an oppertunity there,

if all else fails,Podge is the only answer for this year.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on February 04, 2008, 05:01:26 PM
Is he even on the panel , don't think he was listed but he could be injured.  How did Sean McCormack play for U-21's at weekend?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on February 04, 2008, 05:04:04 PM
Quote from: cavan4ever on February 04, 2008, 05:01:26 PM
Is he even on the panel , don't think he was listed but he could be injured.  How did Sean McCormack play for U-21's at weekend?

i believe he was doing some training with them,but could be wrong,dont know how Sean Played to be honest, i rate him very highly as you know,But its a year too soon for him in my opinion,
Id rather he concentrated on the under 21's.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on February 04, 2008, 05:09:20 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on February 04, 2008, 05:04:04 PM
Quote from: cavan4ever on February 04, 2008, 05:01:26 PM
Is he even on the panel , don't think he was listed but he could be injured.  How did Sean McCormack play for U-21's at weekend?

i believe he was doing some training with them,but could be wrong,dont know how Sean Played to be honest, i rate him very highly as you know,But its a year too soon for him in my opinion,
Id rather he concentrated on the under 21's.

Same as Dunne and Watters maybe. 

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Hollow Man on February 04, 2008, 07:40:20 PM
Flanagan in there instead of Pierson, Sean Brady instead of Cunningham, McCabe instead of BIG BAD LORCAN MULVEY!!!, Pierson instead of Eddie...

Not a bad looking side

Oh yeah, I forgot, AN Other instead of Pter Stringfellow on the line!!!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on February 04, 2008, 08:40:30 PM
I think we must be one of the most stylish county teams. Hannon looks a bit like Nesta, Lyng has a nice hair cut and even Seanie Johnson is looking pretty cool these days. Pierson I am not so sure about, those big bog man locks are a little too retro for me.

Onto the match...

Make no mistake lads, we were well bet. We might have strung some nice moves together but the Directness of Armagh ye again tells every team we play how to beat us. Don't like to be critical of new players but Dunne will struggle unless he puts on some serious muscle. Fannin was subbed before he got sent off. He had a yellow and gave away two frees after that so that decision was correct. Hannon was ok but not fully fit. Half back line was poor defensively in the 2nd half and midfield was very bad. All Lorcan wanted to do was stick out his chest and walk into lads of the ball. He might be big and strong but he'd want to grow some brains. John Cunningham struggled to compete but this was his 1st ever game for Cavan so maybe he has more to offer. Agree that Walsh could have had something to offer if he was around. Martin Reilly was very impressive. Tremendous ball carryer, passer and scorer. His work rate is also tremendous. Cavans best player. Forde is a waste of time out the field. For me I'd give him a run at corner forward and see if he can do anything for us. Lyng was decent when he came on too but a bit to go to get to his best. Full Forward line was shocking bad. Jelly did quite well. Mad Eddie tried hard but is just lacking a bit of skill - at least he looks to lay of the ball when nothing is on. Jayo was pure shit. He looks heavy and slugish and I think his days are numbered. Pierson tried hard but he seems to be lacking some conviction (or confidence?) when his on the ball. He hit one pathetic shot for a score of his left from a very tight angle, knowing himself that he wouldn't score it. Ruairi Donohoe is no Ctr Forward and needs to be in the backs or nowhere really. Special mention to James Reilly who was top class. However, when a forward is 1 on 1 for a goal he should not be missing. Armagh could have scored 4 goals and hammered us. That team will be heavily beaten by Monaghan next time out without some drastic surgery. Maybe the following...


Reilly
Hannon
Colm Hannon? Need to try someone else.
Fannin
McCutcheon
Podge
Waters
J Cunningham
Sean Brady
M Reilly
Lyng
Flanagan (if hes back)
Jelly
Eddie Reilly
Pierson

Like I said I'd give Forde half a game at corner forward. I'm presuming McKeever is still out.

I think we'll be doing very well to stay up this year.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on February 05, 2008, 10:20:44 AM
Sean Brady and Lyng aren't fit enough at the moment to start games.  I heard that some weren't impressed with them getting on the last day.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on February 05, 2008, 10:56:24 AM
With impeccable timing, I arrived in on Sunday just as Watters was drilling over that last point so I missed most of the action.

On the face of it, it seems our performance was fairly decent (first half especially) but not so much maybe from reading everyone's eye witness accounts. I thought there'd be more positives than just Miller and Martin Reilly. I'd still be hopeful we can take points off Westmeath and Roscommon however, games against Meath are always tight so anything's possible, and with Cork in the mire, as long as we avoid relegation I'll be happy.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: shotstopper1 on February 05, 2008, 11:15:06 AM
In all fairness to Mulvey he doesn't pick the team,and I'm sure he does his best.As anyone who has seen him play down through the years knows, he may have stood out in Div 3 & junior championship football,but when the 'Bridge moved up a grade to Div 2 and intermediate he just couldn't hack it.

As for Dunne & Watters these are good young lads who could do with bulking up a bit, and a few more years club football before being thrown on the county.Dunne had a bad ankle injury which kept him out of football for the best part of a year when he 16/17.How many good young lads have had career threatening injuries , by being thrown on to the county panel too soon,Cullivan being the lastest.I may be wrong but I believe that players should have at least two full years of senior club football to get them used to the senior game.It's a very big jump from county minor to county senior.
McCormack likewise, heard he has really only played one year senior club,had a shoulder injury for the early part of the year and was in the States for the summer.

It's time we looked to the future and not the present,why not take the likes of the 3 lads above,put them on a weights programme, or whatever, to build them up over a year or so ,and let them do their playing and training with their clubs.Would this not be better than spending money on medical bills?
I may be wrong but it's just an opinion.

As for the current league,we have Westmeath and Roscommon as the last two games and at that stage it looks like the 3 of us will be fighting for 6th position (depending of course on the outcome of the Cork situation),we'd need at least a couple of points going into these games,but where are they going to come from .
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on February 05, 2008, 06:12:01 PM
Quote from: shotstopper1 on February 05, 2008, 11:15:06 AM
It's time we looked to the future and not the present,why not take the likes of the 3 lads above,put them on a weights programme, or whatever, to build them up over a year or so ,and let them do their playing and training with their clubs.Would this not be better than spending money on medical bills?
I may be wrong but it's just an opinion.

A man after my own heart. The short term view is king though, and will never change until someone with an eye on the bigger picture takes control at county board level. It's the same at clubs pitching in young fellas too early as well. We have a new county chairman who seems reasonably enlightened in the interviews I've read, so maybe there's hope.
But for now the county team is trapped in the twilight zone of being just too good in status terms - in that we haven't hit toal rock bottom yet - to warrant a root and branch, back to basics start afresh, while at the same time are really going nowhere fast because of the lack of a long term plan and examination of the bigger picture. Like, for example, getting under the real reasons why we have moral victories aplenty versus Tyrone, Armagh, Down etc. at underage and senior in recent years, but always seem to come out on the wrong side by a point when it really matters, cursing our supposed and mythical "bad luck." We're like the Irish rugby team of a few years ago, always have a big display when written off, always struggle under any degree of pressure or expectation.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on February 05, 2008, 06:24:24 PM
Shotstopper is 100% correct in my opinion.

Young players like Dunne, Barry Watters, and Sean McCormack in my opinion should be given a 2 year weights programme to build themselves up before getting on the county team,

Ray Cullivan was and is a bit different,seeing as hes been been on a serious Weights programme in the DCU Academy and is very well built and is more than fit for IC Senior level.

If you looked at the Armagh team,There wasnt one player who you could consider light,
Even the smaller guys like Brian Mallon and Paul Duffy and Enda McNulty none of whom are near 6ft were built like absolute tanks.

We on the otherhand have too many light players,

Martin Reily for example is a great player,But the abuse he must take from physically fit players 2 and 3 stone heavier than him will take its toll.

id be of the opinion you could probably get away with a lack of height in some areas if all your players were very physically strong.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: shotstopper1 on February 06, 2008, 10:45:48 AM
Have heard that, although not injured during the game Rory Dunne's ankle swoll up afterwards, but he's not too sure of what damage, if any, may have being done.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on February 07, 2008, 02:40:16 PM
Anyone get a look at the fixtures yet.  I think there is going to be a vote(maybe it has taken place) on whether Templeport are relegated or not.  I heard that they are going to go to the Ulster Council if they are relegated.  They reckon that a motion wasn't passed to relegate a team to Division 4 that it was only prosposed.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on February 07, 2008, 03:01:17 PM
First round games...

Round One - Div 1

Cuchullains v Belturbet
Ballinagh v Mullahoran
Ballyhaise v Gowna
Denn v Cavan Gaels
Drumalee v Lavey
Lacken v Killygarry
Crosserlough v Castlerahan


Round One - Div 2

Drung v Drumgoon
Cootehill v Kingscourt
Redhills v Drumlane
Ballymachugh v Killeshandra
Knockbride v Bailieboro
Shercock v Killinkere
Ramor Utd. v Cavan Gaels

Round 1 - Div 3

Arva v Maghera
Swanlinbar v Butlersbridge
Kildallan v Crosserlough
Corlough v Shannon Gaels
Muntirconnacht v Mountnugent
Laragh Utd. v Cornafean
Kill a bye
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Mr. Pain on February 07, 2008, 04:49:12 PM
So is that the way it is. Would Templeport rather sit at the foot of Div.3 or take it like men, play in Div.4 and get promoted back to Div.3. If they are good enough they will get back up. What happens next year? Can a team not be relegated? Is there a glass ceiling above Div.4. It ruins the league for everyone. If this does go much further Mr. Pain predicts a late start for the league. Mr. Pain sees a conspiracy where the top-class facilities at Templeport will be used to leverage a deal with the County Board. Just a theory. Rant over!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on February 07, 2008, 05:42:33 PM
Quote from: Mr. Pain on February 07, 2008, 04:49:12 PM
So is that the way it is. Would Templeport rather sit at the foot of Div.3 or take it like men, play in Div.4 and get promoted back to Div.3. If they are good enough they will get back up. What happens next year? Can a team not be relegated? Is there a glass ceiling above Div.4. It ruins the league for everyone. If this does go much further Mr. Pain predicts a late start for the league. Mr. Pain sees a conspiracy where the top-class facilities at Templeport will be used to leverage a deal with the County Board. Just a theory. Rant over!

Its a complete Joke Mr Pain, i hope our club appeals to the county board should Templeport stay in Division 3, over our junior teams relegation to Division 5.

Templeport are afraid of their lives to go down to Division 4 because they wouldnt come straight back up.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on February 08, 2008, 03:45:23 PM
Lads just reading on the main board about break out stars this year

who do we all think could be Cavans break out stars this year

Im expecting big things out of Martin Reily,Podge
and Ronan Flanagan this year.i also think this could be the year Michael Lyng exerts himself into one of the best Centre Forwards in Ulster.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on February 08, 2008, 04:54:20 PM
Our young talent are a bit like this (http://forum.football365.com/images/smiley_icons/fergie.gif)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Mr. Pain on February 08, 2008, 05:00:59 PM
Mr. Pain gives the thumbs up c4eva!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Davitt Man on February 11, 2008, 09:05:23 AM
I hear Colin O'Hara has transfered back to kildallon after a year in allenwood. Kildallon could be a force to be reckoned with this year. It mustnt have worked out in allenwood.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Hogarty78 on February 11, 2008, 12:24:08 PM
Quote from: Davitt Man on February 11, 2008, 09:05:23 AM
I hear Colin O'Hara has transfered back to kildallon after a year in allenwood. Kildallon could be a force to be reckoned with this year. It mustnt have worked out in allenwood.

Yeah just heard last week he is leaving to go back to Cavan, he's a decent footballer alright and should make a big difference to Kildallon, he just wasn't quite cut out for senior football though. He's a big strong fella but I think he found the pace hard to deal with at senior level...by all accounts he would have struggled to make the first team in Allenwood this year so it is probably a good call moving home.  Very nice fella though and couldn't fault him for effort, would like to see him do well...
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: count_the_pennys on February 11, 2008, 12:40:57 PM
Quote from: Hogarty78 on February 11, 2008, 12:24:08 PM
Yeah just heard last week he is leaving to go back to Cavan, he's a decent footballer alright and should make a big difference to Kildallon, he just wasn't quite cut out for senior football though. He's a big strong fella but I think he found the pace hard to deal with at senior level...by all accounts he would have struggled to make the first team in Allenwood this year so it is probably a good call moving home.  Very nice fella though and couldn't fault him for effort, would like to see him do well...

That fella was never gonna cut the mustard at senior level...sure he's only an auld mucker, all that fella is good for is cuttin turf and batin auld fat fella's around the pitch in mickey mouse junior games...I dunno why he went to Allenwood in the first place, he was always gonna be found out up there...
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on February 11, 2008, 12:45:48 PM
Had the U-21's a game at the weekend?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on February 11, 2008, 02:04:53 PM
The u21s played Donegal up in Donegal alright. Apparently they won well with a fairly strong team out. Was told the lineout over a few pints on Saturday night I think it was something like this.

Simon Delaney (Killenkere)
Daniel Graham (Cavan Gaels)
Sean McCormack (Ballyhaise)
Damien Reilly (Belturbet)
Barry Watters (Drung)
Dane O'Dowd (Drumlane)
Finbar Jordan (Lavey)
James McEvoy (Crosserlough)
Rory Dunne (Redhills)
Pauric Smith (Castlerahen)
Paddy Brady (Mullahoran)
Tomas Reilly (Killeshandra)
Cian Mackey (Castlerahen)
Conor Smith (Cuchuillainns)
Aido Cole (Ramor)

Can't really report anything else.

I never got back to ye on the last game against Sligo (Cavan 0-12 Sligo 1-9) so I'll give a quick run through what I can recall

Simon Delaney (Killenkere) - good kickouts, not much could be done about the goal
Dane O'Dowd (Drumlane) - tried hard but not a corner back
Sean McCormack (Ballyhaise) - looked a bit slow but kept his man quiet
Damien Reilly (Belturbet) - played well
Niall O'Reilly (Ballinagh) - played well, made some nice runs forward
Stephan Connolly (Ramor) - poor and looked to be on the lazy side, replaced early in second half
James McEvoy (Crosserlough) - quiet game, replaced last 15 mins
Fiachra Cork (Castlerahen) - midfield was poor no real fielding and found behind the play
Pauric Smith (Castlerahen) -  see above
Paddy Byrd (Bailieborough) - poor game, taken off injured
Tomas Reilly (Killeshandra) - played quite well always made himself available scored a fine point
Paddy Brady (Mullahoran) - poor in the first half played better after the break and kicked one monster point but proceeded to think this gave him to right to shot at first sight. A bit greedy.
Cian Mackey (Castlerahen) - Again poor in the first half, moved to a sweeper role behind midfield in the second half and played well
Martin Dunne (Cavan Gaels) - Never got into the game and was replaced early by Conor Smith
Aido Cole (Ramor) - Started quiet, but came into the game as it progressed.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Up the port on February 11, 2008, 02:29:48 PM
Quote from: CC1 on February 08, 2008, 11:09:54 AM
Relegation to division 4 might be a blessing in disguise for Templeport, I'd imagine that some of the teams in that division would be far better than beating the likes of Maghera by cricket scores. Then again we are talking about Templeport... They might be playing our junior team next year...  ;D

i hope they fecking sort it out one way or the other
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Up the port on February 11, 2008, 02:33:18 PM
Quote from: count_the_pennys on February 11, 2008, 12:40:57 PM
Quote from: Hogarty78 on February 11, 2008, 12:24:08 PM
Yeah just heard last week he is leaving to go back to Cavan, he's a decent footballer alright and should make a big difference to Kildallon, he just wasn't quite cut out for senior football though. He's a big strong fella but I think he found the pace hard to deal with at senior level...by all accounts he would have struggled to make the first team in Allenwood this year so it is probably a good call moving home.  Very nice fella though and couldn't fault him for effort, would like to see him do well...

That fella was never gonna cut the mustard at senior level...sure he's only an auld mucker, all that fella is good for is cuttin turf and batin auld fat fella's around the pitch in mickey mouse junior games...I dunno why he went to Allenwood in the first place, he was always gonna be found out up there...

I have played against O'hara and he wasnt bad at junior level but the step up to senior would have been difficult for him i reckon. I understand he had a few runs out in the kildare senior league when the allenwood team were without the county players but then come summer and c\ship he was dropped. If he is back with kildallon he will get first team football anyway even if its only junior.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on February 11, 2008, 02:41:10 PM
We have 3 new members all registered within a short space of time and all posting about the same topic  ::)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Mr. Pain on February 11, 2008, 02:48:52 PM
Quote from: cavan4ever on February 11, 2008, 02:41:10 PM
We have 3 new members all registered within a short space of time and all posting about the same topic  ::)

Yep, something smells here!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on February 11, 2008, 09:38:30 PM
Lads
im just booking holidays
Can any of ye post the Master League Fitxures(what weekends the games are on etc)
Cheers cant find it anywhere.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on February 12, 2008, 09:19:56 AM
Anyone have the full champioship draw?  We got Bridge thats all i know.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on February 12, 2008, 09:47:37 AM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on February 11, 2008, 09:38:30 PM
Lads
im just booking holidays
Can any of ye post the Master League Fitxures(what weekends the games are on etc)
Cheers cant find it anywhere.

This is what i got of a lad . It was sent to him edited for Divison 2 fixtures but im sure that division 1 will l be played the same weekend.





CAVAN ACFL DIVISION TWO ROUND 1 SUNDAY MARCH 9TH

CAVAN ACFL DIVISION TWO ROUND 2 SUNDAY MARCH 23RD

CAVAN ACFL DIVISION TWO ROUND 3 SUNDAY MARCH 30TH

CAVAN ACFL DIVISION TWO ROUND 4 SATURDAY APRIL 5TH (WITHOUT COUNTY PLAYERS)

CAVAN ACFL DIVISION TWO ROUND 5 SUNDAY 20TH APRIL

CAVAN ACFL DIVISION TWO ROUND 6 SUNDAY 6TH MAY

CAVAN ACFL DIVISION TWO ROUND 7 SAT 10TH / SUN 11TH MAY WITHOUT COUNTY PLAYERS)

Sunday 18th may Ulster sfc Cavan v Antrim

CAVAN ACFL DIVISION TWO ROUND 8 SAT / SUN 24TH 25TH MAY

CAVAN ACFL DIVISION TWO ROUND 9 SAT/SUN 31ST MAY JUNE 1ST

CAVAN ACFL DIVISION TWO ROUND 10 SAT 7TH / 8TH JUNE (PROVISIONAL)

CAVAN ACFL DIVISION TWO ROUND 11 SAT JUNE 14TH (PROVISIONAL) 15TH JUNE CAVAN/ANTRIM V ARMAGH ULSTER SFC CAVAN ACFL DIVISION TWO ROUND 12 SAT JUNE 21ST (PROVISIONAL)

CAVAN ACFL DIVISION TWO ROUND 13 SAT July 12th (PROVISIONAL)

Championship ( 24th / 25th / 26th / 27th July)

August 15th wknd league final provisional)

5th September quarters cship

19th Sept championship semi finals

SUNDAY 12TH OCTOBER INTERMEDIATE FINAL 2008
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on February 12, 2008, 11:11:54 AM
Championship draws according to the Hoganstand

Senior Championship:
Belturbet v Mullahoran
Denn v Knockbride
Ballinagh v Killygarry
Crosserlough v Gowna
Castlerahan v Kingscourt
Cuchullains v Ramor
Cavan Gaels v Lacken

Intermediate Championship:
Killeshandra v Bailieboro
Laragh v Redhills
Drumalee v Ballyhaise
Kill v Swanlinbar
Lavey v Killinkere
Ballymachugh v Drumlane
Cootehill v Drumgoon

Junior Championship:
Templeport v Cornafean
Arva v Corlough
Butlersbridge v Drung
Mountnugent v Shercock
Shannon Gaels v Maghera
Munterconnacht v Kildallon
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on February 12, 2008, 01:35:00 PM
Quote from: cavan4ever on February 12, 2008, 09:47:37 AM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on February 11, 2008, 09:38:30 PM
Lads
im just booking holidays
Can any of ye post the Master League Fitxures(what weekends the games are on etc)
Cheers cant find it anywhere.

This is what i got of a lad . It was sent to him edited for Divison 2 fixtures but im sure that division 1 will l be played the same weekend.





CAVAN ACFL DIVISION TWO ROUND 1 SUNDAY MARCH 9TH

CAVAN ACFL DIVISION TWO ROUND 2 SUNDAY MARCH 23RD

CAVAN ACFL DIVISION TWO ROUND 3 SUNDAY MARCH 30TH

CAVAN ACFL DIVISION TWO ROUND 4 SATURDAY APRIL 5TH (WITHOUT COUNTY PLAYERS)

CAVAN ACFL DIVISION TWO ROUND 5 SUNDAY 20TH APRIL

CAVAN ACFL DIVISION TWO ROUND 6 SUNDAY 6TH MAY

CAVAN ACFL DIVISION TWO ROUND 7 SAT 10TH / SUN 11TH MAY WITHOUT COUNTY PLAYERS)

Sunday 18th may Ulster sfc Cavan v Antrim

CAVAN ACFL DIVISION TWO ROUND 8 SAT / SUN 24TH 25TH MAY

CAVAN ACFL DIVISION TWO ROUND 9 SAT/SUN 31ST MAY JUNE 1ST

CAVAN ACFL DIVISION TWO ROUND 10 SAT 7TH / 8TH JUNE (PROVISIONAL)

CAVAN ACFL DIVISION TWO ROUND 11 SAT JUNE 14TH (PROVISIONAL) 15TH JUNE CAVAN/ANTRIM V ARMAGH ULSTER SFC CAVAN ACFL DIVISION TWO ROUND 12 SAT JUNE 21ST (PROVISIONAL)

CAVAN ACFL DIVISION TWO ROUND 13 SAT July 12th (PROVISIONAL)

Championship ( 24th / 25th / 26th / 27th July)

August 15th wknd league final provisional)

5th September quarters cship

19th Sept championship semi finals

SUNDAY 12TH OCTOBER INTERMEDIATE FINAL 2008

Thanks C4ever
much appreciated.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on February 12, 2008, 01:43:15 PM
Quote from: Homer on February 12, 2008, 11:11:54 AM
Championship draws according to the Hoganstand

Senior Championship:
Belturbet v Mullahoran
Denn v Knockbride
Ballinagh v Killygarry
Crosserlough v Gowna
Castlerahan v Kingscourt
Cuchullains v Ramor
Cavan Gaels v Lacken

Intermediate Championship:
Killeshandra v Bailieboro
Laragh v Redhills
Drumalee v Ballyhaise
Kill v Swanlinbar
Lavey v Killinkere
Ballymachugh v Drumlane
Cootehill v Drumgoon

Junior Championship:
Templeport v Cornafean
Arva v Corlough
Butlersbridge v Drung
Mountnugent v Shercock
Shannon Gaels v Maghera
Munterconnacht v Kildallon

Predictions lads.
Mullahoran
Knockbride
Ballinagh
Gowna
Kingscourt
Ramor
Cavan Gaels

Intermediate
Baileborough
Redhills
Dhaise  :)(tie of the round intermediate id say)
Swad
Lavey
Drumlane
Drumgoon

Junior
Cornafean
Arva
Drung(junior tie of the round)
Shercock
Shannon Gaels
Kildallon

Early predictions on winners for me

Senior: Cavan Gaels

Inter: Ballyhaise

Junior: Drung
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: CC1 on February 13, 2008, 12:44:40 AM
Quote from: Davitt Man on February 11, 2008, 09:05:23 AM
I hear Colin O'Hara has transfered back to kildallon after a year in allenwood. Kildallon could be a force to be reckoned with this year. It mustnt have worked out in allenwood.
We have Kenny Burns back from the Aus... :)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: OakLeaf on February 14, 2008, 10:12:45 AM
I've added a new Live Scores feature to GAA Radio. If you're at any Cavan club games it'd be good if you could text score updates to 447624804328. This service is free for everyone to view at http://www.gaaradio.com/scores/liveScores.jsp . Thanks.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: LackenLegend on February 14, 2008, 04:21:36 PM
Lads, Cavan v Monaghan Sat night. What ye think? Funny statement about Larry Reilly by Keogan on the Hoganstand i must say.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on February 14, 2008, 08:39:19 PM
Unfortunately I think we will struggle to beat Monaghan on Saturday. They should be too good for us around the middle to start with. The fact that it is a Derby match and it is in Breffni does give me some hope but I think we would need to start with a fit Lyng, Flanagan and Sean Brady to compete with them. I expect there should be a good home support and a good athmosphere so hopefully we can really tear into them from the start. I expect Monaghan to win by 2/3 points.

Sad in a way to see Larry out but in fairness we need to move on. Larry was a great servant for Cavan and a great entertainer. As for Keoghans cryptic statement - who knows what he is going on about.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on February 15, 2008, 10:17:27 AM
It said in the Star Yesterday that McKeever is back for tomorrow night. 

Can anyone confirm this?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on February 15, 2008, 10:24:40 AM
Hope  Mckeever is back alright, think it was a four week suspension he picked up against Down so should be just about up now. No sign of Sheridan or Flanagan to line out for DCU during the week, Lyng played a full game along with Johnston. Hannon lined out for DCU which is good, he seemed a bit off the pace against Armagh. Some sort of rumor that big Dermot might be seen tomorrow?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on February 15, 2008, 10:25:40 AM
Hope  Mckeever is back alright, think it was a four week suspension he picked up against Down so should be just about up now. No sign of Sheridan or Flanagan to line out for DCU during the week, Lyng played a full game along with Johnston. Hannon lined out for DCU which is good, he seemed a bit off the pace against Armagh. Some sort of rumor that big Dermot might be seen tomorrow?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on February 15, 2008, 10:28:38 AM
McKeever was suspended on 22nd January for 4 weeks so it won't be up til the 19th February.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on February 15, 2008, 10:32:19 AM
Jesus lads have a look at our newest member!

Don't be shy Larry.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Mr. Pain on February 15, 2008, 11:02:21 AM
Mr. Pain's sources have told him Mckeever won't even be at the match as he is in New York with his missus. We have to make do with what we have. Beat the Farneys and get the league going. It is a tough game but if we lose we could have an uphill battle the rest of the league. Rant over!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on February 15, 2008, 11:07:05 AM
Quote from: Homer on February 15, 2008, 10:32:19 AM
Jesus lads have a look at our newest member!

Don't be shy Larry.

Lawrence of Knockbride - could it be that Larry is amongst us.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on February 15, 2008, 11:23:50 AM
Look above in top right corner TTB, in the latest members box.

I don't know if Larry's arrival is a good thing. He'll just hog all the debate to himself and go on mad runs refusing to pass!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on February 15, 2008, 11:24:22 AM
A bit of wrongbuttonitis, happens us all....
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on February 15, 2008, 11:34:46 AM
Quote from: cavanmaniac on February 15, 2008, 11:23:50 AM
Look above in top right corner TTB, in the latest members box.

I don't know if Larry's arrival is a good thing. He'll just hog all the debate to himself and go on mad runs refusing to pass!

Yeh, but then he'll come out with one beauty and we'll all be shouting "GO ON LAAAAAAARRRRRRY"
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on February 15, 2008, 11:35:31 AM
Or my personal favourite:

"Gwan Laaaarry, shkin the hoor!"
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on February 15, 2008, 11:49:12 AM
All the same, isn't it funny how we get all misty-eyed for players when we feel they're about to retire, after giving out alot about them when they were playing.

Larry had many faults but he was one of the most dangerous forwards in the country on his day, which he sadly had very opportunities to show with Cavan after 1997.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on February 15, 2008, 11:59:34 AM
Larry Burst his hole for the county, but never reached the standards he could have due to weight issues.

wont be at the game Saturday as the club are going away for the weekend so could I PLEASE have some reports in here the day after.

;D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on February 15, 2008, 12:45:34 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on February 15, 2008, 11:59:34 AM
Larry Burst his hole for the county, but never reached the standards he could have due to weight issues.

wont be at the game Saturday as the club are going away for the weekend so want some reports in here the day after.

You could at least say please  ;D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on February 15, 2008, 12:57:41 PM
Quote from: cavan4ever on February 15, 2008, 12:45:34 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on February 15, 2008, 11:59:34 AM
Larry Burst his hole for the county, but never reached the standards he could have due to weight issues.

wont be at the game Saturday as the club are going away for the weekend so want some reports in here the day after.

You could at least say please  ;D

OK :D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on February 15, 2008, 01:40:08 PM
Steady on lads. So McCabe is midfield then? IMHO we need to get Rory & Lorcan off the team pretty quick. Decent enough men to have on the panel but just not at the races in any game this year. I know we're lacking around the middle with McKeever & McCabe out recently and Walsh packing it in but they're just not up to it.


By the way did anyone see the prodigal johnston pushing the 2 Armagh boys after the ref did him for over-carrying. What a knob. And then he flicks one of the boys in the balls with his knuckles. Welcome back Seanie-Greatest Irish Hero. And then telling the media that a lot was said in the heat of the moment (I agree, but surely a go at Keoghan) and that he's "happy enough" to be back. He can GTF as far as I'm concerned.

C'mon the Breffni.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on February 15, 2008, 01:59:55 PM
Ive heard that there are 3 changes from the Armagh game.

Dermot Sheridan
Pierson
Declan Gaffney
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on February 15, 2008, 02:11:02 PM
delighted Declan Gaffney is going to be given a chance,
we need some f**kin height at Midfield.

Dermot Sheridan in for Keith Fannin possibely?

Pierson for Eddie id say.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on February 15, 2008, 02:24:34 PM
Team posted by someone from Hoganstand,dont know how accurate

James Reilly
Fannin
Sheridan
Brides
McCutchen
Podge
Waters
McCabe
J Cunningham
M Reilly
Sean Brady
M Cunningham
Johnston
Jayo
Pearson

???
Not a bad selection if true,prefer is McCabe didnt play this early as we need him healthy later on.
Like the look of that half forward line though.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on February 15, 2008, 02:32:35 PM
Don't know if I'd believe that Hoganstand team. I'd agree on Shierdan for Dunne, but I'd leave Eddie on and put in Pierson for Jayo.
So anyway Lawrence, I don't know anyone called Lawrence or Larry so their can't be too many of them in Knockbride so come clean, are you the real Larry or a pretender to the crown. Agree that Johnstone is a total knob but I think he is taking lessons from Mortimor at DCU.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on February 15, 2008, 02:35:08 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on February 15, 2008, 02:24:34 PM
Team posted by someone from Hoganstand,dont know how accurate

James Reilly
Fannin
Sheridan
Brides
McCutchen
Podge
Waters
McCabe
J Cunningham
M Reilly
Sean Brady
M Cunningham
Johnston
Jayo
Pearson

???
Not a bad selection if true,prefer is McCabe didnt play this early as we need him healthy later on.
Like the look of that half forward line though.

Think thats not accurate.  Maybe that is the team that's released for the program.  As far as i know there are no cunninghams or mccabe and Johnston got injured playing for DCU so is out.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on February 15, 2008, 03:04:03 PM
That's a pretty scary name but you scared me more saying you'd leave Eddie in. Have you seen him play this year? He missed two 20 metre frees in the first McKenna Cup game-one off the ground and one from his hands just to show his consistency. Jayo is frustrating as hell but he offers a goal threat. I know we need humour on the field now that one of the great corner forwards of our times is no longer around, but this joke isn't funny anymore. Forgot to check-is Donohoe and Mulvey off that team? That other lad Gaffney doesn't even try so he's no addition eithe. Although I suppose he deserves one more chance.

What happened that Fitzpatrick lad from Killeshandra. Did he get cut? Looked good in the few Junior games I saw last year but he wasn't playin for the U-21s last week either. Is he overage?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on February 15, 2008, 03:12:45 PM
Didn't mean to scare you there Larry ;D Anyhow, my reasoning for leaving in Eddie instead of Jayo is that Jayo hasn't looked like winning one ball for himself in any game I have seen this year - his legs are gone.  Missed goal chances last week too. Eddie is not the worlds greatest player but he gives 100% and he has a bit of a football brain, i.e. he can lay off a ball instead of running into the corner and shooting from stupid angles. He is also strong enough to compete with a big guy for 50/50 ball. If missing frees is his biggest crime then simply we need to give someone else free taking responsibility.

Austin Fitz got cut from Senior panel before the league. No idea why he isn't featuring in the U21 games which he is definetely underage for.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on February 15, 2008, 03:20:57 PM
Would have to say that if Eddie is the brains of any operation we're in trouble. I'll grant that I have seen him giving at least on handpass against Down but he's the main culprit when it comes to trying for the spectacular. I think him and johnston have a competition going for who can kick one from the narrowist angle. And a bit harsh on Jayo if you're implying he's not a tryer. I think he wears himself out trying but then maybe the leg are going. I'd have Jayo as an impact sub and Eddie back foddering.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on February 15, 2008, 06:06:01 PM
Wasn't trying to imply that Jason isn't a tryer only that he doesn't seem to be able to get out and win his own ball anymore. He has given Cavan a lot so no insult intended. I think that Eddie is more of a fighter and more of a target man. His skill level isn't great but we need to have a big strong FF option or we'll be easily snuffed out later in the year. Reckon Eddie will make way at FF for McCabe in the summer anyway but we need to start thinking about a different game plan rather than low ball into fast small & often selfish forwards.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on February 15, 2008, 08:13:07 PM
I read an interview with Keoghan in one of the new local papers and in fairness to him he pointed out the selfishness of the forwards as one of the big problems last year so if nothing else at least he's seeing that. I see we'll have to face the Cork boys afterall. That arbitration is strange. You have two groups nowhere near a compromise and they both accept whatever this man/group says. So Holland gets the boot which the county board would not do in the first place. I suppose it washes their hands off it to some extent. Maybe we should enter it.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on February 16, 2008, 03:49:18 PM
I have just came home from one of the Division One Minor league games and I have to say I don't think I have been this depressed about the state of Cavan football in a long time...  Trinity Gaels (St. Finbarr's and Cootehill) even though they couldn't field a team separately in last years minor and u-16 leagues and depsite then the combined team not winning a single game in the U-16 or Minor championships - this year's Trinity Gaels Minor Team find themselves in Division One of the league and have just been hammered 5 - 18 to 1 - 4 by Crosserlough

Now I'm not whinging about the result - the difference in class between the teams is unbelievable, although I was told by a member of the Crosserlough Management that they mightn't win another game this year - my complaint is with the grading system that puts a team, who can only field 16 players and didn't play in the league last year and couldn't win a game in the championship, into Division One????  This is a disgrace how can you ask young players not to go off and play soccer or rugby or to keep any kind of a interest in Gaelic football when they get beaten like that???? Especially when they know it will only get worse too when playing Castlerahan, RedBridge and of course Cavan Gaels!!

Shame on the Minor County Board whose job it is to promote minor football in the county for allowing this to happen.... How can we complete at Inter county level when we don't have a competitive Minor club league....  Especially when the delegates were told that there was no 11 a side league this year and that it wasn't even up for discussion at the Minor Board AGM!!!  If it wasn't so serious, it would be laughable... Mr Chairman thinks he is running a dicatorship.... and where is he from??? My own club!!

What is the situation with other clubs?  Why are there so many amalgamations?

Hopefull the Seniors can cure my depression this evening...
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on February 16, 2008, 09:50:52 PM
Trip to Donegal not to Next week, so ::)
one word to describe that performance was disgusting.
a more Inept performance from a Cavan teams ive never seen.

13 Euro in to see that boll*x, daylight robbery.

Cavan team

1.James Reily. Once again saved us twice or 3 times, Kickouts good in the most part. 8

2.Dermot Sheridan, Caught out for the first goal that his marker Ronaghan scored, but other than that was fairly solid. 7

3.Podge, Keoghan started Podge at Full back,then moved him onto Finlay then moved him back, MAKE UP YOUR F****N MIND already you tool.
He had an ok game,probably should have been the man to mark Freeman.
i said before that Podge would make a great full back, but We are so poor, we need him out the field.  7

4.Michael Brides. Putting him on Freeman was a big mistake, he just didnt have the legs for him, behind his man the whole game and when Freeman took him on he either beat him or got a free. 5

5.Barry Watters. Not a back,not strong enough for this level, pushed off the ball a few times in the few minutes he was on.
Replaced by Michael Hannon. 5

6.John McCutcheon, Putting a young lad starting out at IC level on one of the best players in Ireland Vincent Corey,another masterstroke,McCutcheon was good in open play,but he just doesnt have the experience for Centre Half Back and was caught out by the slick movement of Corey who set up one of the goals and alot more, 6

7.Keith Fannin, Got on alot of ball,looked better going forward than back,Not convincing in the backs,Play him a half forward 6.

8.Lorcan Mulvey, competed with Lennon fairly well in my opinion,theres still alot more in him though,caught one clean ball over Lennon in second half,but was outfielded by Lennon 2 or 3 times,whether he has it for this level is debateable. 6

9.Declan Gaffney, doesnt have the legs for this level of football.wasnt fit to stay with Dick Clerkin, replaced by John Cunningham early on. 5

10.Martin Reily, Very poor,nothing went right for him all night and replaced by Sean Brady. 5

11.Michael Lyng, just hasnt gotten back to the standards since before his horrific injury,passing was poor in first half and replaced at half time by Jason Reily. 5

12.Anthony Forde. Ive been critical of him,but In my opinion, he was one of cavans better players, ran himself into the ground and got on alot of ball,carried well. One of the few that can hold their heads high. 7

13.Eddie Reily. Sent off for a straight red, for 2 punches on Dessie Mone, got on the ball well in the first half when he was Wing Forward,but was beaten by JP Mone in the air at Full Forward. couldnt be faulted for effort,but its that type of stuff at the end,that makes me think he could be a Gaynor( a loose cannon)
if hes to play,It has to be at Wing Forward. 5

14.Seanie Johnson. Roasted Dessie Mone,but the ball that came into him was atrocious, accurate from frees,movement outstanding aswell,Monaghan knew the danger,they bunched around Jelly, whenever he got the ball,he was crowded out. 8

15.Rory Donohoe, huffed and puffed,got on alot of ball but nothing much came out of it,Not up to it at this level. 6

subs.
Michael Hannon, Ok when he came on. 7

Jason Reily, cant be faulted for work ethic, The ball coming in was atrocious and all the full forward line was crowded out. 6

John Cunningham,not very fit looking,looks like hes carrying some weight,but competed well with Dick Clerkin i though,kicked a good score,dont think hes the answer at Midfield, but could be an option at wing back. 7

Dermot McCabe,The messiah came on, looked trim and fit,good job too,because hes going to have to carry us again this year. didnt have much time to have an impression.

Sean Brady, again didnt have much time to make an impression.


Lads we have no tactics,
We continued to kick the ball in high to seanie Johnson and Eddie Reily even when they were outnumbered 5-2
as Monaghan were playing a packed defense and withdrawing players.
No Tactical knowledge by Keoghan.
We made lots of handling errors,one moment of comedy in the second half when we got the ball back twice and gave it away 3 times in the space of 10 seconds.

We arent going to go anywhere this year im afraid.
We will be lucky if we can win a leagye game,Roscommon might be the only bet,
Id say Antrim might very well beat us aswell in Casement.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on February 16, 2008, 10:22:46 PM
Now I only had the benefit of listening on internet radio via podge and rodge on Northern Sound but.............outclassed by the Farneys..............you'd have to be sore. In all my long life following Cavan football find it hard to remember a time when we were so totally bowl axed at such a vital place as midfield. Latest try was Gaffney, who was replaced by my reckoning after 13 minutes...............for god's sake. If the lad has any chance of making it at this level well that does shag all for his confidence and belief. His replacement Cunningham is on the subs bench for a College that got mullered in the Sigerson cup during the week, so maybe he's not quite ready for this level either

What positives are there..................McCabe back on to try and carry us for another year? Jonny Crowe came on as a blood sub, he might fill a blocker role when he gets fit.

Bottom line is that we would have our hands full with a fair few of the division 3 teams. Meeting the Dubs and all that upper body strength worries me.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on February 16, 2008, 11:06:03 PM
we are indeed a division 3 team,and only a middle of the pack one aswell.

we are out of our depth in division two with this team.

unless we tighten up severly

Dublin could put 5/6 goals past us and hockey us out of breffini.

AC
consider yourself fortunate you werent there,getting charged 13 Euro  >:( for that shambles.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on February 16, 2008, 11:12:14 PM
Positives for me

Good to see Johnny Crowe back involved.

Darren Rabbitte was named as a sub.

with Michael Hannon,Mark McKeever,Ronan Flanagan,Dermot McCabe, Sean Brady, Gerard Pierson and Hopefully Ray Cullivan(Around April possibely)

to come back we should be a fair bit stronger.

uh also, uhm, ok thats it.



Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boshiba on February 17, 2008, 12:07:37 AM
By God we are cat.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on February 17, 2008, 12:44:07 PM
I was going to do a proper report player by player but I don't think it would be fair on everyone as what we are is a complete disorganised, directionless and poorly motivated rabble that no player could really shine in. No one knew what they were supposed to be at last night. We might be an average team but even average teams can have a plan and can set themselves up to be competitive. Donal Keoghan is probably the most clueless manager we have ever had - and I don't say that lightly. I seen Pierson in the crowd, I heard that Walsh left because other players were on the piss and not putting in the work. We need every player back in this panel immediately so that they can get fit for championship. I am talking Walsh, Gaynor and whoever else because this Cavan team will NOT win one game in Div 2. They will not beat Antrim either. We can not rely on youngsters like Martin Reilly and Barry Waters - it is simply not fair on them. There was not one positive to take from last night and I am deadly serious about that.I am totally depressed with that pathetic performance. With that team/management setup I can't see us being withing 10 points of Dublin next outing.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on February 17, 2008, 03:23:39 PM
Jesus. I didn't fancy us to get anything out of the game but given the derby status, Monaghan's tendency to struggle against us and the fact we'd done ok to a point in Armagh, a hammering was the last thing I expected.

It's now clear that if we don't get a performance and salvage some pride against Dublin - and ac39 is right to be worried about their upper body strength - Keoghan is going nowhere with this team. We'll be murdered.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on February 17, 2008, 04:41:41 PM
Westmeath fair tanked Armagh, just goes to put our moral victory in the loss against Armagh in perspective,They played us off the park and they themselves arent much good as they showed today.

McKeever should be back against Dublin, and i can see McCabe starting at Midfield alongside Mulvey.

team id start against Dubs if possible

1.James Reily
2.Dermot Sheridan
3.Darren Rabbitte
4.Michael Hannon
5.John McCutcheon
6.Padraig Reily
7.Mark McKeever
8.Dermot McCabe
9.Lorcan Mulvey
10.Anthony Forde
11.Sean Brady
12.Keith Fannin
13.Gerard Pierson
14.Seanie Johnston
15.Ronan Flanagan.

Withdraw
Flanagan, Forde and Fannin back into Defense,
Two man full forward line
and crowd Dublin out, only shot we have at competing with them.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Cavanfan on February 17, 2008, 05:18:11 PM
BHM your taking out Reilly and Lyng from that attack. Reilly had one poor game(things didn't just go right) and I don't think Lyng had that poor a game. No poorer than anybody else. I agree with Hannon being back in and will McCabe be fit for a full game just yet? He's not that long back in with the team. They tried the two man full forward line on Sat and it didn't seem to work either so not sure if it will against Dub.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: footballmad on February 17, 2008, 06:10:25 PM
BHM what are you talking about, What has sean brady done to get a start? You could drop the following from last nights performance.

Podge...Jap destroyed him in the first half
Mulvey was crap, see him walking away from woods.
Ford was terrible
Sheridan..what did he do?


Also rabbit hasnt played any football since the gaels ulster club,you want him to start on someone like alan brogan?good call....  Pierson has a pulled hamstring, he should be flying in 2 weeks...not..... Big dermot has about 3 weeks training done since the county final,great idea starting him!.

Hannon did well when introduced, should have been starting!


As for lyng, thought he did ok,at least he can pass the ball to johnston not like the other headers...Mad eddie..need i say more!

As for the dubs game, alot of work needed!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on February 18, 2008, 10:48:28 AM
Hard to know where to go from there  :-[

Having said that I for one had really underestimated that Monaghan team, they probably have the best midfield pairing in the country whereas we all knew how ill-equipped Cavan are in this area.

The only white hope was the return of Dermot McCabe who actually contested a few balls when he came on, hopefully he will be fit to start a game fairly soon and along with McKeever coming in we can produce some remediation.

On another note the u21s won again yesterday against Fermanagh didn't hear anything of the lineout though.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on February 18, 2008, 11:00:43 AM
Lads - I said it already but it is pointless complaining about a players individual performance in a game like that. Cavan had absolutely no game plan. They did not have a clue what to do when Monaghan dropped men back. They were moving players into different positions every 5 minutes. Monaghan had a plan. They were going to use a running game from deep (was a flawed plan btw cos if the put the ball in faster they would have beaten us by 20 points) and they were going to get men behind the ball and around Johnstone. Our lads looked like a team that had never even heard of these tactics even though half the teams in Ireland are using them. Added to that we are not fit (maybe we are in stamina terms, but not in speeed endurance), we are not strong enough and a large number of players didn't seem up for it.

Someone said Forde did nothing yesterday. Well you must have been at another match cos he ran himself ragged chasing other players men around the pitch - if the others had been motivated the same way maybe we could have put up a fight.

The subbing of gaffney was another total f**k up by the genius Keoghan. Now I am not sure if he is good enough at this level but he is making a step up and surely deserves more than 10 minutes to make it before Mr f**king Genius Keoghan crushes his confidence. As it happens he is short of pace (so is McCabe) but he got his hands to a lot of kick outs (failing to hold on due to nervousness I would guess) and he also got himself into scoring positions (missed again probably due to nerves). Pierce MCKenna was very similar when he started with the county but many of us would like to seem him back in the team again now. Maybe the great DK has a load of ready made midfielders around the county to come in there instead so he doen't have  to worry about Gaffney!!

It is the managers roll to a) Have a game plan b)Motivate players c) Have the team fit to play. d)Pick the right players in the right positions. For me Keoghan does not tick one of those boxes. He is going to be found out now cos without Grimley he doesn't have anyone to help him. It is hard to see how this can all be turned around.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on February 18, 2008, 11:14:55 PM
Going by the tone of footballmad's comments to BHman, I think there's a few hoganstand refugees making their way here.

It just couldn't last...
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on February 19, 2008, 09:13:44 AM
Quote from: Thastheball on February 19, 2008, 09:08:39 AM
Descartes, perhaps our players are shite as well as the manager. How long does it take you to realise how shite our players are ....20 years ;) we had a good man last year in Grimley and it did not make one ounce of difference...come championship we lost as usual. \interesting Grimley got out as quick as he could. George cartwright is not to blame for Keogan, he wanted Cassidy....Liam Mc Cabe and our now retired treasurer are to blame for Keogan...you can take that to the bank

The majority are just good club footballers and wouldn't get a look in most other counties.  As for the Manager he wouldn't get a job with a Division 5 or 6 team.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on February 19, 2008, 10:51:52 AM
Quote from: Thastheball on February 19, 2008, 09:08:39 AM
Descartes, perhaps our players are shite as well as the manager. How long does it take you to realise how shite our players are ....20 years ;) we had a good man last year in Grimley and it did not make one ounce of difference...come championship we lost as usual. \interesting Grimley got out as quick as he could. George cartwright is not to blame for Keogan, he wanted Cassidy....Liam Mc Cabe and our now retired treasurer are to blame for Keogan...you can take that to the bank

A very over simplified opinion if you ask me. Are Cavans players any more shite than say Sligo (Connaught Champs) or Wicklow (Tommy Murphy Cup) etc. We are no world beaters for sure but the right man in charge can get the best out of this team and that is simply not happening at the moment. Do you think subbing a new player after 10 minutes is a good way to build team morale and player confidence?? Removing players from the panel and then bringing them back only to cut one of them 1 week later? The ridiculous comments on Larry Reilly? Walsh quiting the panel cos the effort isn't going in? I could go on...
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on February 19, 2008, 10:53:23 AM
From Hoganstand. Cullivan back in 2 weeks??

Keogan's honest assessment of the Monagan game
19 February 2008


The Cavan team-manager Donal Keogan said: "On trhe night we we were comprehensively beaten by a more experienced Monaghan side. The two first-half goals I felt killed our chances. We made too many silly mistakes and the two goals we conceded ended the game as a contest. We only scored one point from play in the first-half. I thought we started well but kicked too many balls into the goalkeeper's hands and we made too many mistakes from which Monaghan capitalised.

"Key players Dermot McCabe and Michael Lyng are just coming back from injury, and we have seven or eight more players to come back into the team. I'm not offering that as an excuse for this defeat. There were fifteen Cavan men on the field and we were comprehensively beaten and I am very disappointed with our performance.

"Against Dublin in Kingspan/Breffni Park on Saturday week we are hoping to have Mark McKeever back from suspension, as well as Ronan Flanagan, Dermot McCabe, Ray Cullivan and hopefully, a fit Micheal Lyng and Sean Brady and will need to perform much better".

"There are no easy games in this division, and my players are finding that out. If we can 'turn the corner' and hopefully get something from the Dublin game that could well be the turning point to our league season. The Cavan supporters can be assured we in the management team will be doing everything in our power to get the strongest available side out for the Dublin game on Saturday week, and we will take it from there,'' he concluded
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Hollow Man on February 19, 2008, 03:20:14 PM
Brides 5 out of ten and Mulvey "competed with Lennon fairly well"?

You truly haven't a clue BH Man!!!

Sean McCormack would have been a better option around defence/midfield/attack...
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on February 19, 2008, 03:31:34 PM
Quote from: cavan4ever on February 19, 2008, 09:13:44 AM
Quote from: Thastheball on February 19, 2008, 09:08:39 AM
Descartes, perhaps our players are shite as well as the manager. How long does it take you to realise how shite our players are ....20 years ;) we had a good man last year in Grimley and it did not make one ounce of difference...come championship we lost as usual. \interesting Grimley got out as quick as he could. George cartwright is not to blame for Keogan, he wanted Cassidy....Liam Mc Cabe and our now retired treasurer are to blame for Keogan...you can take that to the bank

The majority are just good club footballers and wouldn't get a look in most other counties.  As for the Manager he wouldn't get a job with a Division 5 or 6 team.

I dunno I might be demented but to me we've always had a sprinkling of very good players, just not in key positions over the years/too small. Full back, midfield and full-forward we've been struggling for generations, and for size all over the field. But Lyng, Sean Brady, McKeever, McCabe, Jelly, Hannon, Podge, Pierson, Flanagan would surely get a go with most other counties and who knows what a structured coaching approach and commitment to excellence in managerial appointments over the years would have done for various others on the periphery as well. Sean Boylan took many a clogger from Junior football in Meath and they're walking about now in retirement with Leinster and All-Ireland medals to comfort them.

I more or less gave up on the seniors when Keoghan took charge, it's all about underage for me and the pickings have been slim there too. Carlow minors can reach a Leinster final and Antrim an Ulster one, while Roscommon beat Kerry in the final, and all the while Cavan minors can't even reach a provincial decider. Can't all be down to bad luck!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on February 19, 2008, 06:27:39 PM
Right. Time to move on lads. No point crying over a shite game. I agree largely with what's being said but the news that Cork have handed 2 points each to Meath & Dublin is now upon us. On the one hand it takes a potential relegation rival (Meath) two points higher but puts Cork right in it with us. Now given that maybe Cork haven't been training too hard is this good or bad news? I'm not sure. My first reaction was the GAA have fucked the other five counties by rewarding the Dubs & Meath, i.e. the look of the fixtures draw has suited them. But any chance we could draw the whingers in with us?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on February 19, 2008, 06:37:21 PM
Quote from: Hollow Man on February 19, 2008, 03:20:14 PM
Brides 5 out of ten and Mulvey "competed with Lennon fairly well"?

You truly haven't a clue BH Man!!!

Sean McCormack would have been a better option around defence/midfield/attack...

f**k off with yourself will you

Brides got roasted by Freeman and was behind his man all game,

Mulvey wasnt up to much,but he competed to a degree with Lennon.

as with the Sean McCormack thing, you're showing yourself up to be a real w**ker alright.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on February 19, 2008, 06:49:45 PM
dont know about the minors.

But i think last years under 21's were a more talented bunch than this years ones.

and look how far they went,

Not optimistic for this year.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on February 19, 2008, 06:56:04 PM
..........and I agree with an earlier poster. There seems to be an overspill of hoganstanders. There's no need for personal abuse lads. Opinions are just opinions.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: LackenLegend on February 20, 2008, 09:32:41 AM

Quote
f**k off with yourself will you

Brides got roasted by Freeman and was behind his man all game,

Mulvey wasnt up to much,but he competed to a degree with Lennon.

as with the Sean McCormack thing, you're showing yourself up to be a real w**ker alright.

oooh this is getting heated!!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on February 20, 2008, 11:59:47 AM
I sympathise with BHMan here. Now I know I lose the run of myself occasionally and I'm a bit shaky on the soapbox after slagging off Ciaran Galligan the way I did, but BHMan is generally a level-headed guy who provides good info, offers his opinions straightforwardly and when he has to, disagrees without slagging anyone off. There's a slight tough guy element creeping in here where one poster can't disgaree with another without taunting them, name-calling or trying to make themselves look superior/make the other look small. It's juvenile, teenage bravado stuff.

I hope it's not something that's going to take hold, it sounds wanky I know but there's standards as long as I've been here (seven years if anyone cares) and I think it'd be to everyone's benefit if they were upheld.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on February 20, 2008, 12:04:34 PM
Yeh - everyone just chill out 8). I think the hammering by Monaghan has us all in a bad mood. Pop over the the general section and check out the thread on the great Larry Reilly - that will cheer us all up.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on February 20, 2008, 12:40:12 PM
I just did Myles, I LOL'd as they say.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on February 20, 2008, 01:17:47 PM
whats the opinion on Mark McKeever playing midfield here like he did and(did well aswell) in the McKenna Cup?

do you think it could work even if he is lacking a bit of height?

Shane Ryan of Dublin isnt the tallest after all.

im starting to come around to the idea, because we dont see to have any alternatives with the exception fo Mulvey who continues to fail to produce to the standards he can.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Hollow Man on February 20, 2008, 01:52:10 PM
Quoteyou're showing yourself up to be a real w**ker alright.

Cheers for that - hard to beat a witty and biting riposte when someone lightheartedly (note the exclaimation mark) says you "haven't a clue".

QuoteBrides got roasted by Freeman and was behind his man all game,

We were completely overrrun out the field, which meant Monaghan came at us in waves, so the full back line was completely exposed. Like it or not, Brides held All Star Freeman (who is in red hot form recently) to a point from play, which isn't a complete roasting in my opinion.


Quotewith the exception fo Mulvey who continues to fail to produce to the standards he can.

I completely disagree. I have seen this fella playing maybe 30 times for club and county in the last few years, and I can remember him playing one very good game for Cavan (in the McKenna Cup against Derry, in January, when everybody else was down to his level of conditioning), and a couple of decent games for his club.

I just think he's all posturing and playing the hard man (witness his reaction to being sent off for a sly dig against Wexford last year, kicking the bin in front of the stand, roaring to draw attention to himself etc and also his embarrassing little cameo with Rory Woods last week) and adds little to the team.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on February 20, 2008, 02:02:55 PM
Quote from: Hollow Man on February 20, 2008, 01:52:10 PM
Quoteyou're showing yourself up to be a real w**ker alright.

Cheers for that - hard to beat a witty and biting riposte when someone lightheartedly (note the exclaimation mark) says you "haven't a clue".

QuoteBrides got roasted by Freeman and was behind his man all game,

We were completely overrrun out the field, which meant Monaghan came at us in waves, so the full back line was completely exposed. Like it or not, Brides held All Star Freeman (who is in red hot form recently) to a point from play, which isn't a complete roasting in my opinion.


Quotewith the exception fo Mulvey who continues to fail to produce to the standards he can.

I completely disagree. I have seen this fella playing maybe 30 times for club and county in the last few years, and I can remember him playing one very good game for Cavan (in the McKenna Cup against Derry, in January, when everybody else was down to his level of conditioning), and a couple of decent games for his club.

I just think he's all posturing and playing the hard man (witness his reaction to being sent off for a sly dig against Wexford last year, kicking the bin in front of the stand, roaring to draw attention to himself etc and also his embarrassing little cameo with Rory Woods last week) and adds little to the team.



Fine i may have over-reacted in my reply and apologise for calling you a "w**ker"
But you need to leave this Sean McCormack stuff to rest already.

have to disagree about Brides,
Freeman set up the goal from what i can remember,Its very hard to play a forward like Freeman behind a beaten midfield, but you've got to play him either from the side or the front,
Brides played him from behind all game conceding posession,which is a killer at this level.Freeman may have scored just a point from play, but he had a hand in most of Monaghans good work.

Lorcan Mulvey i believe has talent,I believe its a combination of carrying too much weight and other Hijinks,(  ::) dont think i need to go into detail here) that he fails to show anywhere near his talent.
Unless he improves by the league though,its time for him to be discarded.
we dont seem to be able to produce a big midfielder good enough to partner for McCabe which will hurt against the towering Antrim pair Joe Quinn and Michael McCann?!??
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on February 20, 2008, 03:09:48 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on February 20, 2008, 01:17:47 PM
whats the opinion on Mark McKeever playing midfield here like he did and(did well aswell) in the McKenna Cup?

do you think it could work even if he is lacking a bit of height?

Shane Ryan of Dublin isnt the tallest after all.

im starting to come around to the idea, because we dont see to have any alternatives with the exception fo Mulvey who continues to fail to produce to the standards he can.

I don't know, I suppose no matter where he's played in the middle eight, he'll be doing the same thing - he'll not be catching any high ball really but has great strength for bursting in on breaking ball and driving forward, and can tackle back as well. Which, as you say, is precisely what Shane Ryan tends to do.

Ideally you'd have an out and out midfielder there and leave McKeever in the half backs (between playing McKeever and Rory Donohoe at 11, Keoghan's idea of a centre-forward differs from mine) where I feel he belongs, but in reality we're faced with McCabe plus a mixum-gatherum of McKeever, Sean Brady and so on...

McKeever might make a decent number six longer-term, which could free Podge up for full-back maybe?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: descartes on February 20, 2008, 03:22:33 PM
BHMAN... I have no idea who u are but i'm guessing you have never played corner back before?


Quotehave to disagree about Brides,
Freeman set up the goal from what i can remember,Its very hard to play a forward like Freeman behind a beaten midfield, but you've got to play him either from the side or the front,
Brides played him from behind all game conceding posession,which is a killer at this level.Freeman may have scored just a point from play, but he had a hand in most of Monaghans good work.


Brides was marking from the side the entire match, this is how he always marks, however when you're on someone with the speed of tommy freeman you can end up behind him alot. If The player out the pitch can delay his pass a split second (and thats all it takes at intercounty football) it gives the inside forward the opportunity to lose his man, fake one way, the other way, another way and then make his run, its very hard to defend against. Hence you can be marking side by side, suddenly you're in front, then your moving across the pitch then your in front then your behind again, now the gets ball let in, and your man looks like a hero. now if the player out the pitch is under serious pressure he will often let it in when it suits him, and not when it suits the inside forward., for me thats a huge key in winning a football match.

sorry if this is boring anyone with the technical nuances of life as a corner back, cause i can appreciate it sure ain't sexy.

i was watching brides for a few periods during the match and what i found most heartening was his acceleration to recover from freeman's movement, freeman only looked like getting past him once in each half. considering the speed of freeman and the amount of space Monaghan created that was pretty impressive.

I thought brides did exceptionally well Saturday night.


in summary, glad to see you and hollow man are back to being BFF's
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Hollow Man on February 20, 2008, 04:26:02 PM
Excellent post Descartes
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on February 20, 2008, 04:49:55 PM
Quote from: descartes on February 20, 2008, 03:22:33 PM
BHMAN... I have no idea who u are but i'm guessing you have never played corner back before?


Quotehave to disagree about Brides,
Freeman set up the goal from what i can remember,Its very hard to play a forward like Freeman behind a beaten midfield, but you've got to play him either from the side or the front,
Brides played him from behind all game conceding posession,which is a killer at this level.Freeman may have scored just a point from play, but he had a hand in most of Monaghans good work.


Brides was marking from the side the entire match, this is how he always marks, however when you're on someone with the speed of tommy freeman you can end up behind him alot. If The player out the pitch can delay his pass a split second (and thats all it takes at intercounty football) it gives the inside forward the opportunity to lose his man, fake one way, the other way, another way and then make his run, its very hard to defend against. Hence you can be marking side by side, suddenly you're in front, then your moving across the pitch then your in front then your behind again, now the gets ball let in, and your man looks like a hero. now if the player out the pitch is under serious pressure he will often let it in when it suits him, and not when it suits the inside forward., for me thats a huge key in winning a football match.

sorry if this is boring anyone with the technical nuances of life as a corner back, cause i can appreciate it sure ain't sexy.

i was watching brides for a few periods during the match and what i found most heartening was his acceleration to recover from freeman's movement, freeman only looked like getting past him once in each half. considering the speed of freeman and the amount of space Monaghan created that was pretty impressive.

I thought brides did exceptionally well Saturday night.


in summary, glad to see you and hollow man are back to being BFF's

No ive never played Corner back in my life, so i cant say id know too much about defending a player of freemans ability. I do know a bit about Being a Forward and the movement you have described where you let the back out in front then switch direction across the field,giving the option of a diagonal ball, Very hard move to defend against,nigh impossible one on one if the forward is top quality.
Brides tried his hardest and done as well as anyone probably could,But i would still be of the opinion Freeman did alot of damage Saturday Night,but il give way to your obviously greater knowledge of defensive tactics Descartes.  :)
In conclusion though and im fairly sure everyone will agree, the blame comes down to the management in allowing Brides or any player to be isolated so much on a player of Freemans calibre.
In the second half near the end Freeman got the ball and ran at Brides and there wasnt a cavan player within 30 yards to support Brides.
In Comparison to Seanie Johnson who was mugged and harrassed by 3 or 4 Monaghan Players everytime he got the ball.
Its just terrible tactics,Obselete and shouldnt happen at Inter County Level.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on February 20, 2008, 05:11:35 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on February 20, 2008, 04:49:55 PM
Its just terrible tactics,Obselete and shouldnt happen at Inter County Level.

Someone told me saturday night that Cavan have a Donkey and 2 Asses in charge of them, i think he was right.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Hollow Man on February 20, 2008, 05:38:37 PM
QuoteIn the second half near the end Freeman got the ball and ran at Brides and there wasnt a cavan player within 30 yards to support Brides.

Humiliating climb down BH Man... ;)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on February 20, 2008, 05:41:04 PM
Quote from: Hollow Man on February 20, 2008, 05:38:37 PM
QuoteIn the second half near the end Freeman got the ball and ran at Brides and there wasnt a cavan player within 30 yards to support Brides.

Humiliating climb down BH Man... ;)

::)  ::)

however shall i live with myself!!!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: LackenLegend on February 21, 2008, 10:52:05 AM
You guys have been moaning.............. like a bitch!!! Kiss and make up. Im sure ye could go out on a date and BH Man could try to fill your Hollow.............Man!! :D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: descartes on February 21, 2008, 11:19:43 AM
Lacken Legend? are u sure your not the todd from scrubs in disguise. if i wasn't so impressed with your innuendo I'd be disgusted!!!  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Hollow Man on February 21, 2008, 01:24:57 PM
Lacken Bell-end, calm those dreads down or I'll have to get your favourite white guy on yo ass...

He owes you for this one...
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: descartes on February 25, 2008, 10:35:38 AM
Has anybody heard anything more about this junior team cavan are putting together for the leinster junior championship?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on February 25, 2008, 10:44:21 AM
Quote from: descartes on February 25, 2008, 10:35:38 AM
Has anybody heard anything more about this junior team cavan are putting together for the leinster junior championship?

Where did you hear that. We are Junior this year and none of our players are on it.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: descartes on February 25, 2008, 11:55:25 AM
QuoteQuote from: descartes on Today at 10:35:38 AM
Has anybody heard anything more about this junior team cavan are putting together for the leinster junior championship?

Where did you hear that. We are Junior this year and none of our players are on it.

someone was talking to me about it at the weekend, apparently if you haven't played senior intercounty last year then you're eligible. its not a team picked from junior clubs if thats what you're getting at? players from senior intermediate and junior  teams can play on it just so long as they're not on this years cavan panel or last years cavan panel. Take last years beaten all ireland finalists cork, four of the team that started in this years all ireland final won junior all ireland medals playing for Corks junior team, either the year before or the year before that. Teams like cork and meath have a strong junior team tradition, with their squads being used as a shop window for guys trying to get onto the senior panel. something tells me fellas in cavan are going to be all dismissive of the junior panel and not entertain the thought of playing on it, so it might take a few years before it gets up and running properly. There is much merit in having a junior panel, especially for a county like cavan though, too many u21's disappear after that grade who are not ready for senior but could be in a year or two. initially i heard Martin Brady from Ramor was over it, then i heard that Terry brady/smith, (the guy with the moustache????) from Lacken/denn/lavey???? ( anybody?? somebody?? help me out here?) was over it so was just wondering if anyone heard anything else about it.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: CC1 on February 25, 2008, 11:58:06 AM
I haven't heard anything on it either. Would be nice to have though, give some of us Vauxhall Conference players a chance... ;)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on February 25, 2008, 12:31:56 PM
Was just talking about this is at the weekend.

It's Terry Hyland from Lacken who is taking charge. As Descartes says it will probably be met with a lot of early skepticism but if we can get this off the ground and running over the next couple of years I'm sure it would prove to be a valuable development.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on February 25, 2008, 12:40:31 PM
Anyone know who is on the panel?  Senior were beating by Fermanagh Saturday evening.  Heard they were very poor again  >:(
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Mr. Pain on February 25, 2008, 01:03:50 PM
Sounds like Hollow Man is gonna bring the Pain!!! Mr. Pain thinks this Junior team is a good idea. Think the lads had their first training on Saturday morning for the Development Squad which will then play as Cavan Juniors. Anybody else here wondering what in God's name is going on with the county team. As i said before, leave the young lads to play u21 or whatever before throwing them in at the deep end in Senior county football. Any poor performance and the abuse that goes with it puts a severe dent on a young lad's confidence. Rant over.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on February 25, 2008, 01:22:20 PM
Quote from: Mr. Pain on February 25, 2008, 01:03:50 PM
Anybody else here wondering what in God's name is going on with the county team.

I'm getting so disinterested in the whole stinking lot I don't even wonder any more. Let's face it, and I know it's not exactly out of the 'Support Through Thick and Thin Handbook' but the senior team are an absolute dead loss and are basically going through the motions again this year. It looks very much like ee have no prospect of doing anything in either league or championship and Keogan's reign is every bit the farce we thought it might be. He's had his chance, he's clearly not making much progress, even with the injured lads to come back.

You can see in recent seasons how the previously unconditional support of Cavan people is dwindling away bit by bit, unfortunately I'm starting to ask myself is it worth the bother any more?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on February 25, 2008, 02:26:51 PM
Junior Football  Date Venue
1. Kilkenny v Wicklow 28.5.2008 Kilkenny
2. Louth v Meath 28.5.2008 Dundalk
3. Wexford v Kildare 28.5.2008 Wexford
4. Dublin v Cavan 28.5.2008 Parnell Park
5. 1 v 2  11.6.2008 Kilkenny/Aughrim
6. 2 v 4  116.2008 Wexford/Newbridge
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on February 25, 2008, 05:05:39 PM
Cavan u21s beat Wexford by two points in a challenge game on Saturday. Wexford were aided by the strong wind in the first half and put up a 4 point margin and continued to lead well into the second half but a late goal from Martin Reilly brought Cavan back on terms before going on to seal the deal. I felt Wexford were probably more deserved of a victory having dominated the game for longer periods and looking more clinical in front of the posts but Cavan to their credit improved as the game went on and never gave up. Impressive game from the Cavan defense but the forwards left a lot too be desired. I'm still very worried by the lack of any sort of size to the Cavan team.

A rough run through of the line-out and comments..

James McEvoy (Crosserlough) - Not much to do, decent kick-outs
Daniel Graham (Cavan Gaels) - Started corner-back and played ok here moved to WHF at half time and looked more suited
Sean McCormack (Ballyhaise) - Tried hard but was found fouling on too many occasions and was sent off (forced substitution) with ten minutes to go
Niall O'Reilly (Ballinagh) - Played well after getting one early roasting.  Good going forward.
Tomas Reilly (Killeshandra) - Lost his man and gave the ball away on a couple of occasions in the first half, played better after the break.
Dane O'Dowd (Drumlane) - Needs to let the ball move faster when in possession and also needs to stop ball watching when not. Having said that still played ok.
Finbar Jordan (Lavey) - Quiet enough game although he's not long back from injury. Didn't let his man get up to much either.
Fiachra Cork (Castlerahen) - Played ok and always tracked back when required. Wind didn't allow for much of a fielding spectacle.
James McEnroe (Mountnugent) - Not the tallest or most skillful but he is strong and hard working, had a fairly good game.
Patrick Byrd (Bailieboro) - Not up to the pace and taken off at half time
Paddy Brady (Mullahoran) - Scored a fine point in the first half but did little else, got much more involved in the second half.
Austin Fitzpatrick (Killeshandra) - Quiet enough game, replaced at half time.
Enda Gaffney (Crosserlough) - Movement was excellent but he is very light and worryingly he struggled in the first half to convert anything from further than 25 yards.
Enda(?) Gibney (Mountnugent?) - Never seen the lad before tall but light fella, always moving but nothing really came off for him looked shy TBH. Taken off at HT.
Conor Smith (Cuchuilainns) - He's a good man for getting possession but was often found wanting when it came to final result. Still needs a lot of work on his fitness.

Subs
Martin Reilly (Killygarry) - Half-Time WHF, excellent from play and frees a bit lucky with a deflected goal.
Rory Dunne (Redhills) - Half-Time full back, sound performance when introduced.
Raymond Galligan - Half-Time midfield, quiet but scored one fine point.
Aido Cole (Ramor) - 2nd half corner forward, quiet.

I also heard the seniors had a run out against Fermanagh on Saturday night and were beaten. Apparently McKeever was back but played poorly.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Hollow Man on February 25, 2008, 07:25:39 PM
Is that James McEvoy who was wing back for the minors last year?!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on February 25, 2008, 08:28:44 PM
The very one. He also played in goals for the minors in 2006.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on February 25, 2008, 11:28:14 PM
Ach I'd imagine they're trying lads out and the championship team will be fairly different...
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on February 26, 2008, 10:34:10 AM
By my own guesstimations I reckon the team is shaping up something like this...

1. Simon Delaney (Killenkere) / James McEvoy (Crosserlough)

2. Damien Reilly (Belturbet)
3. Rory Dunne (Redhills)
4. Niall O'Reilly (Ballinagh)

5. Barry Watters (Drung)
6. Dane O'Dowd (Drumlane)
7. Finbar Jordan (Lavey)

8. Fiachra Cork (Castlerahen) / Raymond Galligan (Lacken) / Pauric Smith (Castlerahen)
9. Ray Cullivan (Ballyhaise)

10. Martin Reilly (Killygarry)
11. Paddy Brady (Mullahoran)
12. Cian Mackey (Castlerahen)

13. Enda Gaffney (Crosserlough) / Martin Dunne (Cavan Gaels)
14. Ronan Flanagan (Castlerahen)
15. Conor Smith (Cuchuilainns)

Others
Sean Higgens (Cavan Gaels),
Enda McHugh (Shannon Gaels),
Tomas Reilly (Killeshandra),
Aido Cole (Ramor),
Austin Fitzpatrick (Killeshandra),
Sean McCormack (Ballyhaise),
Daniel Graham (Cavan Gaels).

I may have left somebody out.

It's very nice team on paper with tonnes of talent but as I've already said no real element of size to them, which you can be sure that Tyrone won't be lacking.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on February 26, 2008, 10:41:29 AM
I heard Raymond Galligan played midfield for the seniors in challenge game last weekend.  It was same day as U-21 game so it just shows what management know.  Martin Reilly played for seniors also.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on February 26, 2008, 12:03:23 PM
Lads do any of ye know where Michael McDonald from Drumgoon has gone?

He seemed to be progressing nicely into a useful midfielder but I haven't heard anything of him this year.  ???
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boshiba on February 26, 2008, 01:03:02 PM
Mick was asked to join the panel by keoghan in the imperial one night over christmas, as he was pissed he agreed to be there at training the following wednesday. Wednesday, and training arrived, alas mick didnt.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on February 26, 2008, 01:08:25 PM
Quote from: boshiba on February 26, 2008, 01:03:02 PM
Mick was asked to join the panel by keoghan in the imperial one night over christmas, as he was pissed he agreed to be there at training the following wednesday. Wednesday, and training arrived, alas mick didnt.

Is that how you get on the county panel now - go into the imperial and get locked. I hope you are joking :-\
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on February 26, 2008, 01:22:01 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on February 26, 2008, 01:08:25 PM
Quote from: boshiba on February 26, 2008, 01:03:02 PM
Mick was asked to join the panel by keoghan in the imperial one night over christmas, as he was pissed he agreed to be there at training the following wednesday. Wednesday, and training arrived, alas mick didnt.

Is that how you get on the county panel now - go into the imperial and get locked. I hope you are joking :-\

Thats true heard it shortly after xmas,  Big Mick would prefer the pints to the county football.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Hollow Man on February 26, 2008, 03:48:07 PM
By my own guesstimations I reckon the team is shaping up something like this...

1. Simon Delaney (Killenkere) / James McEvoy (Crosserlough) - Didnt know mcevoy was a keeper, wouldnt rate delaney

2. Damien Reilly (Belturbet) - don't know him
3. Rory Dunne (Redhills) - soild
4. Niall O'Reilly (Ballinagh) - tidy player

5. Barry Watters (Drung) - his best position, v good
6. Dane O'Dowd (Drumlane) - v strong
7. Finbar Jordan (Lavey) - class player

8. Fiachra Cork (Castlerahen) / Raymond Galligan (Lacken) / Pauric Smith (Castlerahen) - don't know much about the rahan boys but wouldnt rate galligan
9. Ray Cullivan (Ballyhaise) - brilliant if he's fit

10. Martin Reilly (Killygarry)  - brilliant
11. Paddy Brady (Mullahoran) - does the odd flashy thing but overall not great
12. Cian Mackey (Castlerahen) - can be class on his day but then again, can be muck

13. Enda Gaffney (Crosserlough) / Martin Dunne (Cavan Gaels) - wouldnt rate either, too flashy, we saw dunne's worth last year for cavan in minor league and cvhampionship
14. Ronan Flanagan (Castlerahen) - best player on the side but should be centre back
15. Conor Smith (Cuchuilainns)  - lightning speed, awkward sort of like pierson, wouldnt be up to this level i wouldnt think

In all, I wouldnt hold too much hope for this team, although they could go and surprise us and do well (in the same way that class teams in the past have slipped up)

Hopefully that's the case

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on February 26, 2008, 04:57:34 PM
Well lads, what do you think the team will be this saturday?  Will the big man in charge show any sort of tatical know how and come up with a game plan to stop dublin first of all and then maybe a plan for what we do with the ball when we have it??? I'm not too hopeful....  We have McKeever back and hopefully Flanagan (fitness test tomorrow) I hear but McCutcheon broke his arm on sunday playing for us against Cuchulainns in a challenge...
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: LackenLegend on February 26, 2008, 05:04:30 PM
Oooh nasty!!  :o I just read the Bottom Line in the Cavan Voice there. They give Keogan an awful time of it. Maybe he deserves it, i don't know but controversial stuff all the same! Do ye think it is all the manager or do we just not have the players? I heard about a few bust ups between different players and the manager and between players after the Monaghan game. Hot heads or prima donnas?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on February 26, 2008, 06:04:33 PM
Can you post it up? Might be worth a read.

As regards Saturday, we'll be doing well to hold the Dubs to 5/6 points. Dubs can slacken when they think they've a game won and you'd have to imagine there'll be some class of a response to the drubbing from Monaghan, but I really think that Cavan seniors are now at an even lower ebb than when McHugh took over.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on February 26, 2008, 09:56:40 PM
Celt Man
desperate to hear about John McCutcheon's injury as he was the one newcomer this year who looked completely at home at IC level.

My own under 21 team would be.

1.Simon Delaney/James McEvoy(dont know much about either)
2.Niall Reily (very good defender)
3.Rory Dunne (have my doubts about him as a full back,but he will probably get the nod,V Good player though)
4.Sean McCormack( seems to have struggled at Full Back in the challenge games,he played his best football for us two years ago as a corner back)
5.Dane O Dowd(Good defender very strong and good at launching attacks)
6.Ronan Flanagan(Best player in the team hands down)
7.Finbar Jordan(Great attacking wing back)
8.Raymond Galligan(Good fielder, not very quick, but has size hes around 6'2??? ,also a good free taker,) Midfield options with size are very limited this year
9.Fiachra Cork( mobile,good fielder,has improved over the last few years,hope hes added some mass,because he was very light last year)
10.Padraig Smith(adds ball winning ability to the half forward line,Very quick player and good ball carrier,dont know if he has great feet though)
11.Martin Reily( a class act)
12.Barry Watters(another class act, i think hes a more natural wing forward than back)
13.Enda Gaffney(very quick and classy looking,but desperately small about 5'6 or 5'7,) /Cian Mackey(is he definetely in the panel? )
14.Raymond Cullivan(hed be further out the field only id have doubts whether hed have the fitness to last 70 minutes at Midfield, a class act)
15.Sean Higgins( thought he was the Gaels best player in a few of the championship games last year, Very strong for his size,and quick)

is Mackey definetely in the panel? id have thought his games with Armagh City would be clashing with the GAA.
Midfield is a weak area,
the two lads are good footballers, but they wont dominate at this level.
wasnt impressed at all with Martin Dunne or Conor Smith
Paddy Byrd isnt up to it at this level,
Paddy Brady of Mullahoran is a good player,but think he will make the team for the championship.
Damien Reily of Belturbet is a good defender, but is smallish.
Like the look of Thomas Reily and Daniel Graham as  footballers,but they are under 21 for the next two years,might be a bit early for them

dont know what to make of this team to be honest,not expecting anything though.as have been disappointed too often in underage teams in the past.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on February 27, 2008, 08:24:57 AM
Quote from: LackenLegend on February 26, 2008, 05:04:30 PM
Oooh nasty!!  :o I just read the Bottom Line in the Cavan Voice there. They give Keogan an awful time of it. Maybe he deserves it, i don't know but controversial stuff all the same! Do ye think it is all the manager or do we just not have the players? I heard about a few bust ups between different players and the manager and between players after the Monaghan game. Hot heads or prima donnas?

Didn't see it myself but it's good to see some off our local papers can say things like they see it.  The way i see it and what i have been told the management (not just the manager) are alot to blame.  Only game plan is to kick ball into forward line.  One player from a Senior club told me that they have more game plans at club level.  All they seem to be told is to work hard.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on February 27, 2008, 10:52:31 AM
Can you elaborate on that ttb? I always thought it was board-wide money saving thing that got Keogan in.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on February 27, 2008, 11:52:27 AM
Ah right, thanks ttb. Out of a farce, a farce is born it seems. ::)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on February 27, 2008, 01:38:42 PM
It is early days yet but it seems to me that this season is going to be a total disaster. If I were a betting man I'd say Keoghan will not be in charge next year. My big fear is that they go after someone like Stephen King (Cavan man, big name) who I can tell you from 1st hand experience would be exactly the same as Keoghan. The outside manager idea seems to have lost favour in Cavan but i don't see there being an inside man capable of the job. Meanwhile the McCabes and Fordes and those with some experience will drift into retirement leaving behind a team too young and raw to make an impact. I agree with Cavanmaniac in that this is getting very very depressing and I believe we are back in the 80's/early 90's in terms of expectations - especially when I read that county players are bemused by the lack of a game plan (something we all noted after the Monaghan game). Oh well, you never know we could go out and beat the dubs and all will be forgiven.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on February 27, 2008, 02:30:04 PM
"It is early days yet but it seems to me that this season is going to be a total disaster. If I were a betting man I'd say Keoghan will not be in charge next year." NAP!

I see they've even started a petition on the Hoganstand http://FreeOnlineSurveys.com/rendersurvey.asp?sid=ndgd95eu3xd7iil400493 (http://freeonlinesurveys.com/rendersurvey.asp?sid=ndgd95eu3xd7iil400493)  :o

(EDIT - I see its actually a survey)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on February 27, 2008, 03:34:35 PM
Forgive my stupidity but what does "NAP!" mean?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on February 27, 2008, 03:46:51 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on February 27, 2008, 03:34:35 PM
Forgive my stupidity but what does "NAP!" mean?

Ah its just racing jargon for a very good bet.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on February 27, 2008, 07:01:45 PM
Just thinking, if you were looking for people within the county to coach the Cavan team, Not many names stick out

Mickie Graham in a year or two if he does well with the minors

Ciaran Brady possibely(heard hes good from some of my longford sources and got his team to the senior final last year)

Stephen King,Ronan Carolan,Damien Reily are big names in Cavan football,but none have been successful at club level.

Has to be an outside man next year.

There is no way Keoghan will be there next year,
we would have to go on a winning spree,for him to survive.
Beat Antrim and Armagh and avoid relegation,Beating Antrim is the only likely there and even that is debateable.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on February 28, 2008, 11:33:18 AM
In a way I feel sorry for DK. Let's give him some credit, he went in there full of passion for the job and he has tried his utmost; some of his predecessors weren't so committed, that's for sure. But none of this can compensate for his total lack of suitability for the role and his inexperience. Anyone could see that before he went in, apart from, evidently, certain county board eejits with euro signs flashing in their eyes. I genuinely feel this season is going to end with us completely at rock bottom, unless the underage teams lift us somehow and who in their right mind would expect anything of a Cavan underage side? Even I've given up on them!

It's glum down here in the doldrums, I nearly can't be bothered with it anymore and if support starts to drift away (and I believe it has been doing) then Cavan are rightly screwed.

BHMan is right in that Mickey Graham looks to be the only Cavan man making any waves at any level in management but he has to prove himslef with the minors first and like I said above, many's the blossoming management career has been ruined by Cavan minor sides.

If we beat the Dubs this weekend, I'll paint my arse royal blue and sit in Dunnes window for a week.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: CC1 on February 28, 2008, 11:53:19 AM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on February 27, 2008, 07:01:45 PM
Just thinking, if you were looking for people within the county to coach the Cavan team, Not many names stick out

Mickie Graham in a year or two if he does well with the minors

Ciaran Brady possibely(heard hes good from some of my longford sources and got his team to the senior final last year)

Stephen King,Ronan Carolan,Damien Reily are big names in Cavan football,but none have been successful at club level.

Has to be an outside man next year.

There is no way Keoghan will be there next year,
we would have to go on a winning spree,for him to survive.
Beat Antrim and Armagh and avoid relegation,Beating Antrim is the only likely there and even that is debateable.
How about Bernard Morris? Won Ulster IC with Ballinagh. Stephen King won the JFC with Killeshandra last year too.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on February 28, 2008, 12:04:17 PM
Quote from: CC1 on February 28, 2008, 11:53:19 AM
How about Bernard Morris? Won Ulster IC with Ballinagh. Stephen King won the JFC with Killeshandra last year too.

Wouldn't recommend Morris, he's fairly limited when it comes to tactics and strategy. Grand at club level but wouldn't fair much better than Keoghan in inter county management.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on February 28, 2008, 03:49:15 PM
Quote from: CC1 on February 28, 2008, 11:53:19 AM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on February 27, 2008, 07:01:45 PM
Just thinking, if you were looking for people within the county to coach the Cavan team, Not many names stick out

Mickie Graham in a year or two if he does well with the minors

Ciaran Brady possibely(heard hes good from some of my longford sources and got his team to the senior final last year)

Stephen King,Ronan Carolan,Damien Reily are big names in Cavan football,but none have been successful at club level.

Has to be an outside man next year.

There is no way Keoghan will be there next year,
we would have to go on a winning spree,for him to survive.
Beat Antrim and Armagh and avoid relegation,Beating Antrim is the only likely there and even that is debateable.
How about Bernard Morris? Won Ulster IC with Ballinagh. Stephen King won the JFC with Killeshandra last year too.

Definetely not for me CC,

it took Morris what 3 attempts to win an intermediate,even though they had the most talented panel each year.(slightly ahead of us Homer  :P )
Hes underacheived with Ballinagh,as they shouldnt have been in Intermediate football this year.
With a better man along the line they might have been in an all ireland final aswell.
Fingal Ravens were far better tactically on the day.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on February 28, 2008, 03:52:26 PM
also good article from Paul Fitzpatrick,
im guessing him being from Redhills,

He was/is the Bottom Brick on here  ;)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on February 28, 2008, 03:57:30 PM

From Hoganstand
McCabe plays in SF challenge
28 February 2008


Fermanagh senior footballers had a much needed outing on Saturday evening, 23rd of February in Kingspan/Breffni park, Cavan when they defeated the home side in a lively challenge game on a scoreline of 1-13 to 1-8.

The Fermanagh management were delighted with the match practice ahead of their NFL clash with Longford in Pearse Park, Longford next Sunday, 2nd of March. They started the first-half in determined fashion and were good value for their 0-12 to 1-3 lead at the interval. Cavan came more into the game in the second-half, and really put the visitors under some pressure, but never looked like catching a confident Fermanagh side in the end.

For the Cavan management ahead of this Saturday night's NFL Division 2 clash with Dublin there were a number of positives to take from the game. Dermot McCabe started the game along with Sean Brady, Michael Lyng and team-captain Mark McKeever and all four players will be the better for this outing.

Both managements made changes in personnel at the start of the second-half and this seemed to suit the home side. They came more into the game, and with the wind at their backs put the Erne sides defence under greater pressure. However, the Fermanagh side never lost their composure, and when Matthew Keenan scored an opportunist goal at the end of the third quarter, after a show by Mark Murphy was parried by the Cavan keeper they held out for a deserved five points win in the end.

This was a good work-out for both sides with key games this coming week-end against Dublin and Longford respectively. In defence for the Fermanagh side Damien Kelly and Shane McDermott were outstanding in defence. James Sherry and Marty McGrath were to the fore in the midfield sector, while up front Mark Little caused the Breffni defence some problems, while Liam McBarron at full-forward played the 'target-man' role very well.

Those who impressed for Cavan included Rory Dunne at full-back and in the half-back line, John Cunningham and John McCutcheon, while Anthony Forde looked sharp in attack which included Seanie Johnston, Dermot McCabe and Sean Brady.

Cavan - James Carolan (Lavey); Michael Hannon, Rory Dunne (Redhills), Michael Brides; Dermot Sheridan, John Cunningham, John McCutcheon; Raymond Galligan (Lacken), Mark McKeever; Martin Reilly, Micheal Lyng, Anthony Forde; Seanie Johnston, Dermot McCabe, Sean Brady (Castlerahan).

Fermanagh - Ronan Gallagher; Paul Johnston, Paddy Mohan, Niall Leonard; Damien Kelly, Shane McDermott, Raymond Johnston; James Sherry, Martin McGrath; Mark Murphy, Ciaran McElroy, Mark Little; Pat Cadden, Liam McBarron, Eamon Maguire.



Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: shotstopper1 on February 28, 2008, 05:05:37 PM
QuoteHes underacheived with Ballinagh,as they shouldnt have been in Intermediate football this year.

Senior League(beat both Gowna and Gaels on the way) ,Intermediate title(beaten finalists in 2006),an Ulster title and an u21,a junior title and probably more, and this is underachieving :o,

He may not be county manager material but surely you can't say he's underachieved with Ballinagh.
But then again ye're own managers overachieving keeping ye in Div 1 :P
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on February 28, 2008, 05:14:05 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on February 28, 2008, 03:52:26 PM
also good article from Paul Fitzpatrick,
im guessing him being from Redhills,

He was/is the Bottom Brick on here  ;)

Good article is right, hope he doesn't mind you 'outing' him though! About time someone started reflecting in the media what the dogs on the street know and the ordinary supporter says in the pubs. As long as a sheepish local media remains, it gives the county board, manager and players somewhere to hide IMHO.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on February 28, 2008, 06:25:59 PM
Quote from: shotstopper1 on February 28, 2008, 05:05:37 PM
QuoteHes underacheived with Ballinagh,as they shouldnt have been in Intermediate football this year.

Senior League(beat both Gowna and Gaels on the way) ,Intermediate title(beaten finalists in 2006),an Ulster title and an u21,a junior title and probably more, and this is underachieving :o,

He may not be county manager material but surely you can't say he's underachieved with Ballinagh.
But then again ye're own managers overachieving keeping ye in Div 1 :P


id be of the opinion SS that Ballinagh have possibely the 3rd most talented panel of players in the county, After the Gaels and probably Mullahoran.
He definetely underacheived in losing 2 Intermediate Finals(i could be wrong but wasnt he manager for the first one??? against Denn ) il put my hand up if i got that one wrong.

Ulster Intermediate and Senior Leage were good wins alright.

Under 21, Ballinagh were streets ahead of the rest in Division 2, and would have beaten every Div 1 team except the Gaels.

hes a good manager,id question his tactical knowledge though, Ballinagh have lost some games over the last few years that they shouldnt.

Anyway, enough of this i feel all dirty praising Ballinagh,

They are the enemy after all  >:(   >:(  >:(

:D



Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on February 28, 2008, 06:43:03 PM
Quote from: cavanmaniac on February 28, 2008, 05:14:05 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on February 28, 2008, 03:52:26 PM
also good article from Paul Fitzpatrick,
im guessing him being from Redhills,

He was/is the Bottom Brick on here  ;)

Good article is right, hope he doesn't mind you 'outing' him though! About time someone started reflecting in the media what the dogs on the street know and the ordinary supporter says in the pubs. As long as a sheepish local media remains, it gives the county board, manager and players somewhere to hide IMHO.

he hasnt been active in a long time,so i doubt he would mind.
He writes some great articles,doesnt tug the party line like others and reflects the views of many of us on here.
pity there wasnt more like him.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on February 28, 2008, 06:46:54 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on February 28, 2008, 06:25:59 PM
He definetely underacheived in losing 2 Intermediate Finals(i could be wrong but wasnt he manager for the first one??? against Debb ) il put my hand up if i got that one wrong.

Just to clarify Morris has been in charge for 3 years alright but only lost the single IFC final in 2006 to Drumalee the year before we made an early exit once again at the hands of Drumalee. The Denn final was 4 years ago back in 2003 and under different management.

Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on February 28, 2008, 06:25:59 PM
Anyway, enough of this i feel all dirty praising Ballinagh,

No, no please go on HaiseMan, I'm sure everyone is enjoying it as much as I am.


Great article from the The Bottom Line and welcome to KingOfSeptember.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on February 28, 2008, 06:50:03 PM
Quote from: Homer on February 28, 2008, 06:46:54 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on February 28, 2008, 06:25:59 PM
He definetely underacheived in losing 2 Intermediate Finals(i could be wrong but wasnt he manager for the first one??? against Debb ) il put my hand up if i got that one wrong.

Just to clarify Morris has been in charge for 3 years alright but only lost the single IFC final in 2006 to Drumalee the year before we made an early exit once again at the hands of Drumalee. The Denn final was 4 years ago back in 2003 and under different management.

Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on February 28, 2008, 06:25:59 PM
Anyway, enough of this i feel all dirty praising Ballinagh,

No, no please go on HaiseMan, I'm sure everyone is enjoying it as much as I am.


Great article from the The Bottom Line and welcome to KingOfSeptember.

ah well i was wrong about the Denn match i see,
how do you rate him Homer?
Possible Future County Manager? if he had a good supporting cast??
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on February 28, 2008, 06:59:44 PM
Quote from: Homer on February 28, 2008, 12:04:17 PM
Quote from: CC1 on February 28, 2008, 11:53:19 AM
How about Bernard Morris? Won Ulster IC with Ballinagh. Stephen King won the JFC with Killeshandra last year too.

Wouldn't recommend Morris, he's fairly limited when it comes to tactics and strategy. Grand at club level but wouldn't fair much better than Keoghan in inter county management.

Well what I've already said pretty much sums up my own sentiments. Morris was grand for figuring out a game plan for a certain team but once a plan B was required he was often found wanting. To be honest a lot of the players would have considered Morris's second in command Sean Finnegan to be the brains of the operation and unfortunately for Ballinagh's cause it's looking like he's taking a break now.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: LackenLegend on February 29, 2008, 09:40:27 AM
Cheers KOS, i was asked to post that article and not being great at the ould computer i couldn't find a way to do it. Ya saved me a bit of hassle. I see the general consensous is that it is good stuff. Who is Paul Fitzpatrick though? The singer?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: shotstopper1 on February 29, 2008, 12:46:31 PM
Quote from: LackenLegend on February 29, 2008, 09:40:27 AM
Who is Paul Fitzpatrick though? The singer?

Paul is from Treehoo in Redhills,wrote as the Bottom Line in the Echo(Bottom Brick here) and now is with Cavan Voice.Looks like he's busier now than when he was with the Echo as his posts here dried up since his move :D
At least he writes it as he sees it and fair play to him.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: CC1 on February 29, 2008, 01:41:50 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on February 28, 2008, 06:25:59 PM
Under 21, Ballinagh were streets ahead of the rest in Division 2, and would have beaten every Div 1 team except the Gaels.
*ahem*  ;D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on February 29, 2008, 01:46:14 PM
Quote from: CC1 on February 29, 2008, 01:41:50 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on February 28, 2008, 06:25:59 PM
Under 21, Ballinagh were streets ahead of the rest in Division 2, and would have beaten every Div 1 team except the Gaels.
*ahem*  ;D

not the year ye beat them mate,  ;)
The year before when they won it.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on February 29, 2008, 01:49:42 PM
Cavan team named:

J Reilly
M Hannon, P Reilly, K Fannin
A Forde, R Flanagan, D Sheridan
D McCabe, M McKeever
M Reilly, M Lyng, R Donohoe
J O'Reilly, S Brady, S Johnston

Cavan team
im happy with it to be honest.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on February 29, 2008, 01:55:18 PM
good player who warranted a shot at the county.

cant say im sorry to see Abramovich GFC losing 7 players in total.  ;D

we got 3 of them  :D  :D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Hollow Man on February 29, 2008, 02:10:25 PM
Is that definitely Gavin Duffy that plays on their seniors? I doubt it, sure isn't he awy in Australia

I'd say it could be some juvenile player???
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Mr. Pain on February 29, 2008, 02:40:47 PM
The way Mr. Pain sees it, if you don't play for a club for a year you may be allowed to play for any club without transfer. As Gavin Duffy is already away in Oz for a year he would not need to transfer. Mr. Pain agrees with Hollow Man that this might be un underage player with the same name. Does the other Gavin Duffy have a brother called Eamonn cos he is goin to Cornafean too? There seems to be a little bit of in-fighting in the Gaels club with prima donnas trying to call the shots. I could name them but i wont, you probably can guess, our county men, some of which haven't played with the Gaels all their lives.......Rant over!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on February 29, 2008, 02:42:46 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on February 29, 2008, 01:49:42 PM
Cavan team named:

J Reilly
M Hannon, P Reilly, K Fannin
A Forde, R Flanagan, D Sheridan
D McCabe, M McKeever
M Reilly, M Lyng, R Donohoe
J O'Reilly, S Brady, S Johnston

Cavan team
im happy with it to be honest.


Not bad on paper I suppose.

According to a very detailed post on the Hoganstand "brides has flu"

Podge's move to full-back comes as little surprise as he has started 3 games this year at CHB but finished them in the full back line.

It's great to see Flanagan back, I do think he is getting thrown in at the deep end here at CHB but will probably be suited to picking up Alan Brogan.

Looking forward to see how McCabe and McKeever fair out in the middle, fitness will obviously be the main worry here.

How long can the Rory Donohoe show go on? Seriously I think he is the only player to have played every game this year and yet he still hasn't produced the goods.

I remember Sean Brady playing at Full Forward for the county minors against Down in Casement some years ago and he did so to excellent effect but I'd imagine he will pull out to midfield tomorrow night. Again another player who gives me worries over his fitness.

Is Pierson injured or what is going on there?


QuoteIs that definitely Gavin Duffy that plays on their seniors? I doubt it, sure isn't he awy in Australia

I'd say it could be some juvenile player???

Duffy, Paraic Smith and Michael Cooke are all in Australia so I'm sure you're right and it's some kid.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on February 29, 2008, 03:47:23 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on February 29, 2008, 01:55:18 PM
good player who warranted a shot at the county.

cant say im sorry to see Abramovich GFC losing 7 players in total.  ;D

we got 3 of them  :D  :D

Who did you get BHMan.  Any who all is leaving them?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on February 29, 2008, 03:52:52 PM
Quote from: cavan4ever on February 29, 2008, 03:47:23 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on February 29, 2008, 01:55:18 PM
good player who warranted a shot at the county.

cant say im sorry to see Abramovich GFC losing 7 players in total.  ;D

we got 3 of them  :D  :D

Who did you get BHMan.  Any who all is leaving them?

O.k seen them on HS
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on March 01, 2008, 10:38:01 PM
well very good performance albeit a bad result tonight. looked a right bad night from my cosy seat in the stand.  :P

magnificant opening 25 minutes by Cavan,Best football ive seen them play in a long time.
went out of it before Half time and allowed Dubs to get a few scores to go in level.
Dubling started dominating midfield in the 2nd half but we were hanging in there until Brogans Goal killed the game off.

1.James Reily, Kickouts were monsterous throughout,got  something on the ball for Brogans goal,touching it onto post,but all in all faultless. 7

2.Michael Hannon, found it very hard to contain Jason Sherlock in the first half,but started to impose himself into the game after. Done well.8

3.Padraig Reily, Got caught out by Bernard Brogan a few times,but made some great interceptions and blocks aswell. 8

4.Keith Fannin, Ok not as good as in some matches ive seen him. 6

5.Anthony Forde, went through a collosus of work at wing back,Completely rejuvinated as a player when we(especially me) had him written off a few weeks ago. 8

6.Ronan Flanagan, i thought he done very well also, looks so comfortable on the ball and his defending has improved alot,Might not be a Centre Half,but is a dead cert in the half back line. 8

7.Dermot Sheridan. My man of the match, Vaughan looked dangerous but Sheridan gave a terrific display in my opinion.good in all aspects of play. 9

8.Dermot McCabe, i heard people saying after that McCabe had a very good game, he done well in open play,and in the most part his delivery was very good good,but Fenell outfielded him throughout,,Struggled for Fitness also,Wasnt fit to stay with the Dublin Midfielder when he moved around.Move to Full Forward was 10 minutes too late though. 7

9.Mark McKeever, went through a serious amount of work,and i thought in the most part he got the better of Shane Ryan.Terrific Ball carrier and worker. 8

10.Martin Reily, Showed the Monaghan game was just a mere blip,terrific vision and passing abilities,one particular outrageous ball into Johnstone in the second half,Workrate also terrific. Frees were a bit off,but the conditions were diabolical. 8

11.Michael Lyng,runner up for Man of the Match for me,terrific passing abilities,and movement,Ran Paul Casey into the ground in the first half and was prominant in the second half for Cavan aswell. Workrate phenominal as he never stopped chasing and harrying the Dubs players. 8

12.Rory Donohoe,Good opening half and won alot of possession,vastly improved over recent performances,but doesnt really offer a scoring threat.Place will be up for grabs,with Cullivan or Niall Madden around for the Meath Game. 7

13.Jason Reily, Poor my his standards,never really got going and was taken off with about 15 minutes left. 6

14.Sean Brady,worked very hard but didnt impact open play a great deal,not really the type of player that will take on a man and beat him.Better in the half forward line. 6

15.Sean Johnstone,once again kept the torch lit in the full forward line,looked dangerous every time he touched the ball,skinned his marker a few times,accurate from Placed balls,workrate and movement outstanding. 8

Management got it tactically correct to give them their due,in dropping players back behind the ball, and soaking up the Dublin Pressure.
Only mistake was leaving McCabe at midfield a bit too long,as Fennell had the beating of him in the air,
I thought the backs in general were outstanding,
Midfield Workmanlike if not spectacular,
Forwards, Some Good,some Not so good.

with the exception of maybe 2/3 changes,thats the strongest team we can put out.

If we could play like that every time,
we would beat Cork,Roscommon and Westmeath i have no doubt.
Optimism has returned in the BHMan household.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: descartes on March 01, 2008, 10:51:18 PM
much better performance tonight. couldn't believe the wind changed direction in the second half!!!! Lyng was superb in the first half, instrumental in us leading 5pts to 1. thought when mcCabe and Forde started kicking stupid ball (Forde) or Ridiculously long ball (McCabe) we started losing our grip on the game. Flanagan makes some difference to the team. In fairness to Cavan they seemed to have worked on alot of things tactically speaking, on their game since the monaghan match. I wonder who has started calling the shots?? If my sources are correct Keoghan is empowering the players!! and my sources are always correct ha ha (jaysus don't i sound like a mafioso type now)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on March 02, 2008, 12:52:29 PM
I think you might be getting a bit carried away there BHM. Too many 8's out if 10 and a 9/10 for Dermot Shierdan whos man almost single-handedly won the game? Agree that there were some positives such as better team work and a semblance of a game plan in the 1st half. But there were more negatives...

- Only 2 points in the second half
- Only one player scored for Cavan
- Fitness very poor throughout the team
- Beaten at midfield for 3/4 of the match
- No idea how to play against a packed defence in 2nd half.

We are now almost certain to be relegated I think unless we can win 3/4 of our last games which is very unlikely.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on March 02, 2008, 01:49:53 PM
Dermot Sheridan for me had an outstanding game, Myles
Vaughan was great from frees and kicked a point or two from play,No way though did he nearly single handidly beat Cavan on his own,
He got on an awful lot of ball,buts thats because Sheridan was instructed not to follow him and Sheridan covered in front of the full back line.
He picked up an unreal amount of ball in the backline.

Only 2 points in second half is poor.

Jelly is the only threat in the full forward line,
Neither Brady or Jayo contributed anything last night,You cannot expect to win with that.

McCabe isnt fit for midfield, at this time of year,we were well beaten in midfield because The Management refused to move him  out of there.
the way to beat a packed defence is to run at them in numbers from all areas of the field,Cornerbacks,Half backs and all, and draw fouls.
Like Kerry did against Tyrone a few weeks ago.
we didnt do that.


Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on March 02, 2008, 06:51:59 PM
Would have to disagree with Myles comments about Vaughan. He stood out on the terrace side wing most of the second half and was rarely picked out. I think he's in the team for his outstanding ability from deadballs. But I think he's an average enough player at that level. Sheridan had a strange game. He did fumble a lot of balls but retrieved a lot of them. Overall it was a step in the right direction. But Keoghan picked Flanagan,McCabe,Lyng & Brady right down the middle of the field, all of whom were on their way back from injury so fitness was always going to be a worry. When McCabe was moved in to full forward the players didn't give it into him except for the time he got the shot on goal. Twice Michael Hannon went on long runs with the ball only stopping when he hit a wall of light blue. Surely the idea would have been to hit McCabe when he was in there. Lyng also had an odd game. On numerous occasions he ran half the length of the field tracking a man and at other times he was standing on the 40 looking at his man race up the field. Rory Donohoe worked hard defensively but the man is just not up to it.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: gortnaleck on March 03, 2008, 12:52:26 AM
I recorded the game and watched it today.The weather affected the cameras and it was as if the game was being played in a thick fog.The similarity of the jersey colors didn't help matters either.I was not expecting to see such a good display from Cavan.The defence did good.Midfield play has changed and now there are very few kickouts caught or attempted to catch so its usually a matter of who gets the breaks.That's a bit of a lottery but I thought Cavan picked up their share.Mc Cabe or McKeever(esp) did not seem to have the ball on too many occasions.The forwards looked like they did not want to be scoring except for Johnstone.Martin Reilly was also taking on the defence which I liked.I can't stand the frees being kicked out of the hands esp the long range ones. Seanie took one free towards the end out on the left hand side and it looked like he was just kicking it as hard as he could and hoping for the best.Missing frees and kicking it into the goalies hands are a killer because the  that are so good at starting a counter attack.Anyway I don't see the doom and gloom except maybe they will get relegated if that makes any difference.Maybe I'm mad but I don't see a hell of a lot of difference between any of the teams any more that a good freetaker and two good scoring forwards wouldn't bring them over the top
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: descartes on March 03, 2008, 04:00:26 AM
QuoteWhen McCabe was moved in to full forward the players didn't give it into him except for the time he got the shot on goal. Twice Michael Hannon went on long runs with the ball only stopping when he hit a wall of light blue. Surely the idea would have been to hit McCabe when he was in there.

Eh... didn't hannon hit mcCabe with the ball at the end of one of those runs, that set up mcCabe for the goal chance???

Anthony forde tried to hit McCabe as well then from the terrace side of the pitch but its near impossible to retain possession lobbing a ball into one man at full forward when the opposition have loads of men behind the ball if its too short they mop it up, too long its the full backs ball. Add in the fact that the gael force wind had started blowing the other direction by the time Keoghan moved McCabe in full forward and it only makes it more difficult, and then theres the added fact that McCabe wasn't exactly moving like kieran donaghy on saturday night if you know what i mean.

when teams drop men back you have to run at them!! or else let it in early, but at the same time you can't force it in if its not on.
An example of this was the pass McCabe kicked in the 2nd half when he was still in midfield, from near his own 45 metre line with ronan flanagan (i think) coming off his shoulder. he tried to find seanie johnston and it was intercepted easily.

agree that james reilly could do with a few variety tricks on his kicking resume.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Mr. Pain on March 03, 2008, 11:44:25 AM
Mr. Pain ate something dodgy on Friday night and was confined to watch the match at home on Setanta, in close proximity to the nearest jax! Bad coverage due to the rain but it could be seen that Dublin rued a few early chances. Mr. Pain always had the feeling that one Dublin took the lead that would be it. Finito. As it turns out Mr. Pain was once again correct. Cavan were just delaying the enevitable and were always goin to be beaten. It's a terrible thing to say but a lot of Mr. Pain's chronies feel the same. The substitutions were also baffling. There seems to be a totally new team every match and different subs coming on all the time. How can a team settle? Rant over!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on March 03, 2008, 01:27:47 PM
Quote from: Mr. Pain on March 03, 2008, 11:44:25 AM
Cavan were just delaying the enevitable and were always goin to be beaten. It's a terrible thing to say but a lot of Mr. Pain's chronies feel the same.

That's what I was thinking watching the game as well. It was always only going to be a matter of time before Dublin asked some serious questions of us and as usual, once they did, our lads as good as packed up the tent and went home. Once their goal went in, I thought we let the heads drop and gave it up.

We were good in the first 15/20 minutes, all geed up after the Monaghan defeat but our lead was built on a few soft enough frees converted by Jelly and one nice one from play by Lyng. We scored a miserly two points thereafter, and coughed up alot of chances at the start of the second half as well which is, I'm afraid, just typical Cavan to the back bone.

A team with a genune belief and winning mentality - not to mention fitness - would have raised some sort of meaningful gallop in the last ten minutes when only four down at home but the concession of the goal sucked the life out of us and although we attacked afterwards there was no real conviction of belief, it was like we were just going through the motions of chasing it without ever having any genuine expectation of turning it around. The only time in the last 15 years a Cavan senior team has had genuine belief and spirit was under McHugh and then Eamon Coleman, and even under the latter we choked in two big games we should have won, v Armagh and v Derry in the subsequent qualifier. And at underage there's enough other examples to make your eyes bleed.

This pattern is endemic in Cavan football at all levels, it never changes and our fortunes will stay mired as long as it doesn't. The best we'll get is a few plucky performances and moral victories because it's easier for us to go out and play well when we're totally written off - it's motivation in itself but also there's the safety net that if you lose narrowly nobody will mind because everyone thought it'd be worse and we can walk away saying how "unlucky" we were. Again. Somebody needs to get a handle on it like McHugh did but with the county board appointing Keogan in the first place, we might be waiting a while. If that's the level of leadership we have, then what's the point?

If there is a positive, defensively I thought we were alright at times  and as always the famous Keogan 'workrate' was there. But up front we have nothing apart from Jelly. You'd hope that others will come into it as they get fitter but at the moment we're in trouble. Jason Reilly is now an impact sub at best and the sooner Keogan realises it the better.

I guess overall it was a step in the right direction and something of an improvement, but looking at the longer-term bigger picture, I see no reason to change my opinion that the sooner this season is over - and it will end sooner than we'd like - the better for all, because then we might get a decent structure in place and move on.

We're going nowhere lads. I get more and more disillusioned with this team and how its run with every passing week.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: gortnaleck on March 03, 2008, 02:47:18 PM
I thought Dublin would be one of the favorites to win the All Ireland.Cavan did not look that much out of their depth except Dublin had more accurate forwards.The Ref should have sent off the Dublin midfielder but stopped when he realised he had booked him already.The chances are if it was Eddie or Gaynor they would have walked.Cavan probably still would not have won as they would still not be able to score.I don't know what some people expect .If there were better players around that wanted to play for Cavan they would be out there.We have to play with what we have
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: descartes on March 03, 2008, 03:29:46 PM
QuoteThe Ref should have sent off the Dublin midfielder but stopped when he realised he had booked him already.The chances are if it was Eddie or Gaynor they would have walked.

he should have sent off sherlock too.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on March 03, 2008, 04:01:03 PM
Why what did Sherlock do? Didn't catch him at anything????
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: descartes on March 03, 2008, 05:23:53 PM
QuoteWhy what did Sherlock do? Didn't catch him at anything?Huh

he was throwing punches in the 2nd half. ref gave him a yellow, when he should've given him a red.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on March 03, 2008, 11:16:24 PM
Sherlock hit Michael Hannon off the ball, should have walked,
disgraceful decision only to give a yellow card.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Mr. Pain on March 04, 2008, 09:34:12 AM
Quote
The chances are if it was Eddie or Gaynor they would have walked.
:D :D :D Yeah, that would be because they are stupidly obvious when they do it, right in front of the ref or another official.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on March 04, 2008, 02:12:55 PM
Quote from: gortnaleck on March 03, 2008, 02:47:18 PM
I don't know what some people expect. If there were better players around that wanted to play for Cavan they would be out there.We have to play with what we have

It's not so much the players I'm down on, it's the county board first, then the manager they appointed and finally, the whole apparent lack of genuine belief in the team - which is a totally different issue to mere playing personnel on board. We're just running to stand still every year and only a true visionary or messiah type figure such as McHugh can rise the tide for us.

All things considered, I think we're going nowhere at the moment. I see nothing to suggest at present that, barring a huge turnaround or upsurge, we're going to have a better championship this year than last. I take no pleasure in saying it, it's just my opinion.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: gortnaleck on March 05, 2008, 04:03:36 AM
McHugh probably had a better panel of players in 97 and I don't think he managed them that great against Kerry in Croke Park.Do you not think he would have came back if he thought he could get them to progress any further.There would have been another hard luck story that year only an umpire had visions.Still he is the Messiah for leading them to an Ulster Championship
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on March 05, 2008, 01:58:47 PM
You're missing my point. I'm not contesting that McHugh may have had a better panel of players or subjective stuff like that, the point is that this was the last time we made a genuinely good managerial appointment.

Cast your mind back to those days and the buzz there was about the team. There was a real sense that we were going places, building towards something, and we went from no-hopers to competitive inside two or three years on the back of a commitment to basics like excellence and discipline in training and crucially, true hardened belief in ourselves. McHugh gave us that and you can't buy it, if you could we'd not have been bumbling along like we have since. It's why we hung in against Fermanagh in 1997 and gubbed them again in 1998 - we believed.

The Cavan team of the present would accept their fate and lose both those games in 97 and 98, possibly be content to say "Ah we were unlucky," as usual and that's the difference. If we don't get real ambition and leadership and belief back in the county side, we'll always be just mid-ranking also rans, maybe worse. We'll talk the talk, we'll try new players, the supporters club will throw money at it, we'll go close in big games and lose by a point and that will comfort us in our ignorance, the Breffni Blue annual will churn out the same shit every year, but we'll just be running about with one foot nailed to the floor.

You can draw a good comparison between Cavan then and Monaghan now. They've got all the components in place like commitment, good manager, sprinkling of good players - and are clearly going places, we have bits and bobs and are clearly going nowhere. If something doesn't get the ball rolling in a real way, and it certainly isn't going to be Keogan to do it, then it'll just go on and on.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: gortnaleck on March 05, 2008, 02:16:16 PM
If we had Paddy Bradley and Freeman in the forward line there would be a good buzz to the team and I could stand on the line and manage them
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: DirtyDozen12 on March 05, 2008, 09:43:48 PM
Any Mullahorn posters on the board??  Just want to know your thoughts on the new Tyrone management in charge??  It is Pascal Canavans first time managing any senior team, dont know if he would actually take any tranining though?  Did he bring a back-room staff with him by any chance??
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on March 06, 2008, 12:17:27 AM
Quote from: gortnaleck on March 05, 2008, 02:16:16 PM
If we had Paddy Bradley and Freeman in the forward line there would be a good buzz to the team and I could stand on the line and manage them

If we had Paddy Bradley and Freeman in our forward line they'd likely be kicking their heels, in and out of the panel, not training properly, boozing on the sly and gallantly underachieving to a massive degree the same as Pierson, Jason and Larry did for years, and just like Jelly probably will do as well. I'm afraid your view of things doesn't really scratch the surface if you think adding a one or two good players will solve the problems, that's somewhat simplistic in fairness.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on March 06, 2008, 02:35:18 PM
Quote from: DirtyDozen12 on March 05, 2008, 09:43:48 PM
Any Mullahorn posters on the board??  Just want to know your thoughts on the new Tyrone management in charge??  It is Pascal Canavans first time managing any senior team, dont know if he would actually take any tranining though?  Did he bring a back-room staff with him by any chance??

dont know the particulars of this case DD,

but with every manager even at junior level getting enlarged travelling expenses, someone of Canavans stature would command even more,
You dont pay people these  types of money if they dont get involved with the training.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on March 06, 2008, 09:58:16 PM
You're missing my point. I'm not contesting that McHugh may have had a better panel of players or subjective stuff like that, the point is that this was the last time we made a genuinely good managerial appointment.


Know a lot of people didn't rate him too much but I thought Val Andrews wasn't the worst. Did ok with us in championship and league, not too bad with TIT (Tralee IT) or Louth either. The late Eamon Coleman was ok.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on March 07, 2008, 10:54:07 AM
Thanks for that TTB, think we are sort of in agreement so
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on March 07, 2008, 12:06:02 PM
Ok, I think I'm slightly confusing "good" managerial appointment with "manager who won something," fair enough on that score.

Coleman I think was a very decent manager for sure but the main point I'm making that everyone's missing is that no manager since McHugh has really, root and branch, truly and genuinely addressed the problems we face. McHugh went at the psychology, he went at the fitness, he went at the attitude, he went at the discipline, and the results followed. Andrews was alright to an extent but he did preside over some lamentable hidings from Derry and despite deserving more support before he got pissed off and left, I don't think he'd have got us back to an Ulster-winning level and nothing I've seen from him since would change my mind there.

Coleman was more old-school but in hindsight was a real opportunity missed as I've opined before, he also seemed to be in the process of addressing the above and as if to prove my point, it's the last time we went toe-to-toe with the best around and didn't look out of place. McElkennon only achieved what the residue left over from Coleman allowed; on his own steam, he was lost, because he let the tail wag the dog.

If we're not hiring with all the above as priorities, then my point still stands, we're going nowhere and it's just lazy and hackeyed thinking - clap trap if that's your bag - to offer up the old "we don't have the players" chestnut. We don't have All-Ireland winning quality but we should be and could be doing much better than we are. A similar bounce back to respectability and competitiveness could be achieved with a proper manager, like happened when Coleman took over from Mattie Kerrigan, another farcical reign (NFL final included), when equally alot of people would have been saying we didn't have the players then either.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on March 07, 2008, 07:15:04 PM
Quote from: Thastheball on March 07, 2008, 10:45:35 AM
Quote from: anglocelt39 on March 06, 2008, 09:58:16 PM
You're missing my point. I'm not contesting that McHugh may have had a better panel of players or subjective stuff like that, the point is that this was the last time we made a genuinely good managerial appointment.

Know a lot of people didn't rate him too much but I thought Val Andrews wasn't the worst. Did ok with us in championship and league, not too bad with TIT (Tralee IT) or Louth either. The late Eamon Coleman was ok.

Total clap trap. Colewan RIP was a top class manager. he won Ulster and senior All Irelands, 2 National Leagues, an All iIeland Minor plus numerous Ulster titles at all levels, never mind the Sigersons. In other words a VASTLY superior management record to Mc Hugh. Val Andrews was decent enough and his record supports it. Our county board really messed up by getting it all back to front. Instead of making Cassidy manager, they made Mc Elkennon manager and Cassidy the coach. Being involved it was obvious to see it should have been the other way around and that both were servely restricted because of the roles they were in. As for Keogan FFS. In other words we have had managers that were good enough. We have very average to poor players. Mnanagers come and go, but the players are basically the same, the same crap.

Whats the story with the agressive responses? No need for it - we are all just putting forward opinions at the end of the game. I don't like to see terms like "total clap trap" and also the branding of all our players as crap (we have some very good players, some honest hard working average ones and some gobshite wasters). In my opinion the ability of the manager is about more than winning and is certainly to be measured by more than simply trophys won. McHugh only managed one inter county team. He took over a team that hadn't even won a championship match in years (7 i think), that had no confidence or belief and a had a large proportion of piss heads. In 3 years he had a U21 all ireland final appearance and a senior ulster title. I believe he resigned due to family reasons. I would put his achievement along the same lines as if Mick O Dwyer won Leinster with Wicklow (which would probably be his greatest achievement which is saying something). He was on a par with Coleman I reckon. One thing that is for certain, our current management will not progress this team and it will be another short year. I am praying at underage Mickey Graham makes an overdue breakthrough and sets himself up for a future senior team manager. Undeage is where we need to start winning and I think everyone knows that.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on March 07, 2008, 09:03:17 PM
Howya Myles, yes the bould TTB doesn't mind getting his retaliation in first. Fascinating the little insight that he "was involved" during the McIlkennon/Cassidy era, though in what sort of role we can only speculate. He ain't too happy with the current management team either. Now if his involvement was in capacity of a panel member it would be interesting if his posting style matches his playing style i.e. a good man to pick up the odd yellow or red card I'd say. Fascinating stuff altogether.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on March 07, 2008, 09:14:28 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on March 07, 2008, 07:15:04 PM
Whats the story with the agressive responses? No need for it - we are all just putting forward opinions at the end of the game.

It gets on my wick too I must admit. There seems to be a pseudo thread police operating here sometimes where over hormonal keyboard-warrior types are only too keen to wade in with the scathing condescension and I-know-way-more-than-that-imbecile put downs. We all speak out of turn sometimes but it's the default setting for more than one poster on here and it'd wear you down.

I'm not aiming that at TTB in particular as I enjoy his contributions and agree mostly with his last one (and it's better craic in here than when it was just me and ac39 flying the oul blue flag), it's a general point about the thread and indeed board in the wider sense.

And a good post there as well myles.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Davitt Man on March 08, 2008, 08:23:05 PM
Any word on how kildallon got on today??
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on March 08, 2008, 09:58:03 PM
Saturday league results.

Denn 0-04 Gaels 1-07
Ballinagh 0-08 Mullahoran 0-09

Kildallon 1-08 C'lough 0-10
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on March 09, 2008, 04:39:29 PM
Ballyhaise 0-16 Gowna 0-09

;)

we were 11-2 up at half time,Gowna had McCabe and McKeever but no Pierson.
McCrudden outplayed McCabe,who just wasnt fit to keep up with the pace of the game.
Other great performances by us included Collie Reily,John Donoghue,Donal Farrelly,Michael Rooney,F Slowey, Ali Pickett and Sean McCormack in the 2nd half where he put McKeever in his back pocket( somone on here wont like to hear that though  ;D )
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on March 09, 2008, 04:41:46 PM
Cootehill -  Kingscourt and Drung - Drumgoon both called off due to the state of the respective pitches in Cootehill and Bunnoe
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: CC1 on March 09, 2008, 09:30:38 PM
All results up on Aertel now... We lost to Killinkere today. 1-09 to 2-13 it says on the tele text but I'm nearly sure there was 5 points in it, wouldn't surprise me in the slightest if the referee handed in that result though...  ::) Both goals killed us though, horrible ones to concede...
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Davitt Man on March 10, 2008, 09:45:04 AM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on March 08, 2008, 09:58:03 PM
Saturday league results.

Denn 0-04 Gaels 1-07
Ballinagh 0-08 Mullahoran 0-09

Kildallon 1-08 C'lough 0-10

Any report on the Kildallon C'lough game??
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on March 10, 2008, 11:38:45 AM
Ballinagh 0-08 Mullahoran 0-09

Very poor game in bad conditions, a draw might have been a fairer result with Mullahoran grabbing the lead at the death from a rather dubious free.

Not too disheartened as the lads only started back training last Friday and we were also without the services of a few of our first team players (Cian McDermott, Niall McDermott, Patrick Carolan and Anthony Gaynor) while Mullahoran lined-out an almost full strength team.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Cavanfan on March 11, 2008, 09:48:39 AM
Well hello, it has been a while.

So we are back to game week and it's Meath up next. So what are people's thoughts on the game? We all know it's a must win game in order to try and avoid reglegation! Can we do it?

We did well against Dublin in the first half. Can that performance help us beat Meath?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on March 11, 2008, 02:35:18 PM
Well Meath haven't exactly been setting the world alight in the division either so it's crucial from a survival standpoint that we beat them, given that they're precariously enough placed as well, with only the gift points from Cork and a draw with Roscommon disguising a slow enough start from them.

They'll be getting better all the time though, but hopefully we can improve a bit as well. Meath, Roscommon and Westsmeath (away to Ros and West in last 2 games) were the three 'winnable' looking games before the ball was thrown in for round one, despite Westmeath's strong start I'd still stand by that as the possible 6 points we need to stay up. We have a home game with Cork as well - again live on Setanta I'm told - and home advantage should count for something and again, Cork might be in a relegation battle themselves and therefore it's a 4-pointer.

That's all fine in theory however. In reality, I think we're going down. With a better manager we're just about good enough to stay up I think, but we don't have one, so we won't.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Davitt Man on March 11, 2008, 02:49:54 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on March 08, 2008, 09:58:03 PM
Saturday league results.
Kildallon 1-08 C'lough 0-10

Does anyone know if Colin O'Hara was back for kildallon?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on March 11, 2008, 03:02:40 PM
I see the U21s are down to play Tyrone in the Ulster Championship on March 19th. I haven't heard a dickie-bird about our U21s for a few weeks, anyone have any information over and above what appeared a few pages back?

I'm refusing to be in any way hopeful this year. Trying to trick the Karma I am...
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on March 11, 2008, 03:39:12 PM
Quote from: cavanmaniac on March 11, 2008, 03:02:40 PM
I see the U21s are down to play Tyrone in the Ulster Championship on March 19th. I haven't heard a dickie-bird about our U21s for a few weeks, anyone have any information over and above what appeared a few pages back?

I'm refusing to be in any way hopeful this year. Trying to trick the Karma I am...

Where is it been played?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on March 11, 2008, 04:32:31 PM
I didn't see a venue C4ever, just got the info on the Cadbury's website. The winners play Antrim or Down in the semi on the 26th, provincial final down for April 5th, but that's all the info there at the moment.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on March 11, 2008, 05:22:48 PM
Quote from: cavanmaniac on March 11, 2008, 03:02:40 PM
I see the U21s are down to play Tyrone in the Ulster Championship on March 19th. I haven't heard a dickie-bird about our U21s for a few weeks, anyone have any information over and above what appeared a few pages back?

I'm refusing to be in any way hopeful this year. Trying to trick the Karma I am...

They played Donegal in a friendly at the weekend.
beat them i believe.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: shotstopper1 on March 12, 2008, 10:27:03 AM
BHM what's the story on McCormack was he taken off injured or was he sent off? Seeing as HM hasn't commented I'd presume its the former .
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on March 12, 2008, 02:13:41 PM
I believe the Tyrone game is in Omagh on the 19th although I wouldn't regard the person who told me as trustworthy on that.

Who's managing the U21s, please someone tell me it's not Keogan?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: shotstopper1 on March 12, 2008, 02:35:35 PM
From Ulster Council website


Ulster U21 Football Championship
Team 1 Team 2 Venue Date Time Referee Comment
Down  Antrim  Pairc Esler Newry Down 19/03/2008 20:00 Darren McQuillan   
Tyrone  Cavan  Healy Park Omagh Tyrone 19/03/2008 20:00 Aiden McAlynn
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Cavanfan on March 12, 2008, 02:59:38 PM
Quote from: shotstopper1 on March 12, 2008, 10:27:03 AM
BHM what's the story on McCormack was he taken off injured or was he sent off? Seeing as HM hasn't commented I'd presume its the former .

I heard that he came off injured (his groin). Not 100% sure.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on March 12, 2008, 03:23:47 PM
Well lads. Meath this weekend in a must win game. I think we have a chance as they are no great shakes. All the usual problems will still be there but hopefully McCabe will be a bit fitter as will McKeever and Flanagan. What I am worried about is that it will probably be a close match and Meath are famous for coming out on the right side of those types of games. Never the less, breaking with my recent depressed outlook on Cavan football I predict a Cavan win by 2 points.

It is worth noting we have played Meath in the league for the past 3 years and on each occassion it has been in Navan. What is the story with that?

I hear Larry was playing great stuff for Knockbride at the w'end. It wouldn't suprise me if he got a call back into the panel. I'd say he would be a good man to bring on for the last 20 minutes of a match.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on March 12, 2008, 04:49:32 PM
I think they just pluck league venues out of the air to be honest...and Larry is definitely good for the last 15 minutes of any game, we're way too dependent on Johnston and anyone that can chip in with a point or two would be welcome.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4sam on March 12, 2008, 05:27:21 PM
Hi guys, new to the board, Nicholas Walsh was called back into the county panel and was present at training last night.
Ronan Flanagan is injured, seems to be having a lot of trouble with his hamstring. Didn't play for Castlerahan at the weekend. Sean Brady didn't play either ??? Think Cavan may still do ok in Navan on Saturday night as Meath are without a number of their star forwards; Bray, Farrell, O'Rourke and Sheridan, Peader Byrne was sent off the last day against Westmeath so not too sure on his availability.

Im hopeful of a Cavan win.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on March 13, 2008, 12:01:25 AM
Welcome...we'll soon school that optimism out of ya, don't worry! 8)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on March 13, 2008, 10:23:28 AM
I am glad to hear Walsh is back in the panel. He may not be the greatest footballer in the world but he is still capable of doing a job for us I think and we sure aren't blessed with many good midfielders. Its a shame that Flanagan is struggling as he had a good game against the dubs. Can't make the game myself this w'end as I have to go to a wedding so I'm hoping for a decent report from our budding journalists on the board!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4sam on March 13, 2008, 11:19:07 AM
Don't think Flanagan will be risked on Saturday considering the u21s are playing in Omagh on Wednesday night. I would hope that he will be back for that, as he is probably their most important player.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on March 13, 2008, 12:20:23 PM
Yep I'd rather have him for the U21s as well to be honest.

Can anyone tell me if Keogan is in charge of the U21s, or someone else? Please say it's not Keogan...
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Hollow Man on March 13, 2008, 01:20:51 PM
I'll drop dead of shock if we get a result in Navan.

Keogan is an absolute disgrace, on and off the line. The man shouldn't be let over an Under 12 club team (incidentally, he never was), let alone a county senior side.

The set up is a shambles, with Keogan and McCabe calling the shots - one who the players don't respect, and the other who is a great, great player but who is too domineering by half and undermines morale.

While I appreciate that we need options at midfield, what will brining Walsh back do for morale? It means that the likes of Gaffney and Galligan, busting themselves in training, are back down the pecking order automatically because, well, Walsh is Walsh.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on March 13, 2008, 01:38:05 PM
Cavan 11/4 to beat the Royals lads-get on it before I put one of my houses on it and slash the odds. With all the forwards missing as mentioned above and especially Peadar Byrne. The work that boy puts in is ridiculous. It may be unfound optimism but Lawrence just has a feeling in his gut about this one.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on March 13, 2008, 02:40:22 PM
Best odds I can see are 2-1 with ladbrokes. 15-8 with paddypower. Maybe you already put the house on it Lawrence. ;)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on March 13, 2008, 05:57:39 PM
Boylesports my good man but you could be right about the house.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Mr. Pain on March 14, 2008, 11:29:14 AM
Hey Hollow Man that's quite the spiel. Mr. Pain agrees with ya though.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4sam on March 14, 2008, 03:18:39 PM
I don't know if anyone has replied to you yet cavanmaniac but to answer your question, Keogan is over the u21s.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on March 14, 2008, 05:15:16 PM
Ah right. By which I mean: Ah bollocks.

Jasus. ::)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on March 14, 2008, 06:43:27 PM

Just to get your weekend off to a good start Maniac and set your mind at rest regarding our Under 21's here is a little snippet from HOganstand:

county u21's
im not sure what the story is with cork and that whole story but i know hes studyin law in trinity. anyway i believe keogan doesnt care bout the u21s, they weren't even traaining 2gether there for a long time, he told them t train wit there colleges. id say keogan is feelin the pressure of da seniors and doesnt have the time for them.should be different management anyway.
your ma , cavan Ireland , 13/03/2008 at 16:35

Now I know you have to take some of what you read on the Net with a pinch of salt but this is depressing, underage and senior, and that's the leftovers of your team that gave Down a run for their money at minor level a few years ago. I'm outta here
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on March 15, 2008, 11:52:42 AM
Ah bollocks. By which I mean: Oh for fucks sake.

Wake me up when it's 2009.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on March 16, 2008, 12:19:27 AM
Another close game, another defeat... gettin very worried about the mindset of this group of players - always coming out on the wrong side of close games... Down in the mckenna cup, armagh, dublin and meath this evening... self belief should be instilled in the players from the management from the start and that clearly isn't happening.  Looking at the second half, we were completely devoid of any tactics regardless of the strength of the wind and, much in the same way when Dublin got their goal, when Meath went ahead we looked like we were well and truely beaten, heads dropped and you could see that most of the players couldn't see a way back... very few leaders out there at all, no one took charge in the final 5 minutes and decided to take some responsibiliity with the ball so we were left with a mini game of "hand pass 5 yards to a man beside you" all the while Meath were getting men behind the ball.
Some positives from the game definitely, some lovely points scored by jelly, McCabe, Pierson and Martin Reilly in the first half, Ray Galligan had a good game - depsite marking Mark Ward who must be 6 or 7 inches taller than him - until he was taken off out of the blue.
Reilly's kickouts are killing us, this craic of kicking the ball out as far as I can can't go on... we aren't able to win enough possession off them and did he have to ba told to keep the ball away from Ward as much as he could???
Any word on injuries to Fannin and Hannon
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on March 16, 2008, 11:46:20 AM
Quote from: Celt_Man on March 16, 2008, 12:19:27 AM
Another close game, another defeat... gettin very worried about the mindset of this group of players - always coming out on the wrong side of close games... Down in the mckenna cup, armagh, dublin and meath this evening... self belief should be instilled in the players from the management from the start and that clearly isn't happening.  Looking at the second half, we were completely devoid of any tactics regardless of the strength of the wind and, much in the same way when Dublin got their goal, when Meath went ahead we looked like we were well and truely beaten, heads dropped and you could see that most of the players couldn't see a way back... very few leaders out there at all, no one took charge in the final 5 minutes and decided to take some responsibiliity with the ball so we were left with a mini game of "hand pass 5 yards to a man beside you" all the while Meath were getting men behind the ball.
Some positives from the game definitely, some lovely points scored by jelly, McCabe, Pierson and Martin Reilly in the first half, Ray Galligan had a good game - depsite marking Mark Ward who must be 6 or 7 inches taller than him - until he was taken off out of the blue.
Reilly's kickouts are killing us, this craic of kicking the ball out as far as I can can't go on... we aren't able to win enough possession off them and did he have to ba told to keep the ball away from Ward as much as he could???
Any word on injuries to Fannin and Hannon




DON'T DO IT MANIAC DON'T DO IT PLEASE, no not your weekly essay on how it's all down to lack of self belief due to lack of success at underage level/soft underbellies at senior level/teams knowing they can roll us when things get tight/the effect of the limestone in the soil down Tunnyduff way on John Tierneys left leg etc. etc. etc. I just can't take it any more, paricularly seeing as you're right on all counts.

Same oul story tonight from what I could gather from the podge and rodge show on Northern Sound. Ran through the Rials in the first half. Bit of a ballocking for the neighbours in the sheds at half time, they come out, up the intensity, throw in a few shoulders and the rest is history.

A few positives, based on last years championship we are probably in the most competitive division, and at least are competing with the likes of Dublin, Armagh and Meath. Secondly, we have plenty of good, talented footballers who could get better as the pitches get harder. Now for the bad bits.

1. the total lack of physical power among our team has long gone beyond a joke, we were bulled out of it again tonight. Now McHugh was able to get to an All Ireland Semi using three or four lads that weren't necessarily outstanding in their own right but could do a specific job. We MUST have at least four blokes on the park at any given time that can successfully mix it and/or do the dirty work of winning ball, taking and giving a few shoulders whatever. They may not be among the best 15 footballers in the county but there are enough nice lads on the team to blend in-options that I can see at the moment and they are by no means perfect but can be worked on-Gaynor, Walsh, Johnny Crowe, Cunningham (Swad), Alan Clark, Duffy (Gaels), McCutcheon,  there may be others. I think Dermot Sheridan is at least a step in the right direction there.

2. The belief bit is the other part, our man Maniac has done this to death, again, and again..................it comes down to whether Donal is the man to instill that belief in a group of reasonably talented players
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on March 16, 2008, 12:20:48 PM
Quote from: anglocelt39 on March 16, 2008, 11:46:20 AM
DON'T DO IT MANIAC DON'T DO IT PLEASE, no not your weekly essay on how it's all down to lack of self belief due to lack of success at underage level/soft underbellies at senior level/teams knowing they can roll us when things get tight/the effect of the limestone in the soil down Tunnyduff way on John Tierneys left leg etc. etc. etc. I just can't take it any more, paricularly seeing as you're right on all counts.

2. The belief bit is the other part, our man Maniac has done this to death, again, and again..................it comes down to whether Donal is the man to instill that belief in a group of reasonably talented players

;D ;D

I know, I know! But don't worry, I can't even be arsed any more. Keogan has taken away my enthusiasm, my interest, and now, worst of all, my bar stool psychology. Yes, that's how deep this runs :o
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on March 16, 2008, 03:43:40 PM
i didnt go last night as i was up in Dublin studying ,first league game i missed this year.

when i turned on Northern sound and heard we were 11-4 up, i nearly had a Heart attack.

but was disgusted when i heard we lost 15-13.

what we have is a group of very good young players in

Michael Hannon
Padraig Reily
Michael Lyng
Martin Reily
Ronan Flanagan
Mark McKeever
Ray Cullivan
Sean Brady
Seanie Johnston


most of these lads would get on any team in Ulster
what we dont have though is the pure physical presence to deal with the likes of Meath,
It why Trevor Crowe is so popular on here,not the greatest footballer in the world,dont get me wrong he is good though,
But had a bit of size and brute strength about him.
Raymond Galligan the Lacken under 21 played well i heard but he was hopelessly outgunned by a man of 6'6 Mark Ward,You cannot hope to win a duel at Centrefield against a man 4/5 inches bigger than you. Galligan isnt small either he would be 6'1 maybe 6'2
The need for someone 6'3 plus to contend with players like Ward such as Paddy Brady,Sean Maguire,Ciaran Galligan, Declan Gaffney is obvious.
I believe with the introduction of a few players with size and strength,
we arent THAT far off the likes of Meath and Dublin.


Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
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Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
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Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on March 18, 2008, 10:12:28 AM
Didn't make the game but some of my mates went down and basically the feeling I get is that Meath went in at half time, changed their tactics a bit and totally wiped us out in the second half. Does our manager need an hour to come up with something to counter these tactics? It would appear so. 2 points in the 2nd half again is absolutely pathetic. Now we need to win our last 3 games and that will probably still not be enough to save us. All last years hard work in the league is gone to waste and I tell you we will struggle big time to get out of Div 3. Write of this season, get rid of that muppet Keoghan and start from scratch next year.

Any word on the U21 team for tomorrow night, Anyone going to it?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Cavanfan on March 18, 2008, 10:30:05 AM
Was at the game on Saturday night and what I don't get is that we were winning in the first half well and come 2nd half Keoghan changed what was going right. From what I could gather Lyng and Reilly in the first half were allowed to roam quite freely and won some good ball with Reilly scoring and Lyng setting up a few. Then in the 2nd half it all changed. It seemed to me that they were told to stay in closer to the goals and it made it look like there were no forwards available for the ball. IMO they contributed to the midfield area in the first half. Thought McCabes point from play was excellent and it was great to see more forwards getting on the scoreboard. Johnston played well but he lacked getting ball in the 2nd half. More positives in the game were the performances of the players in the 1st half. It showed that we do have the talent in this county so what is the problem? It's just a pity that after such a good first half a lead like that was let slip. Anyway thats all I have to say.   
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4sam on March 18, 2008, 10:55:55 AM
I can understand peoples frustration at losing such a big lead but for me, at least, it was obvious that Meath were goin to get back into the game second half. The wind was a major factor in this, but the reason i thought that Meath were going to comeback strong was the fact that they had a lot of possession in Cavans half in the first half against the strong wind, and perhaps could have had 2 goals, especially the chance gifted to Geraghty where Fannin passed straight to him but he opted to take a point. We won very little at midfield, by this i mean clean ball fielded by the midfielders. We need physically bigger men to compete with these strong teams. Meath were man for man larger than their opposite number on the Cavan team.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Cavanfan on March 18, 2008, 11:42:02 AM
I completely agree that we lost the game at midfield. I think we made one clean catch in the first half and it was Raymond Galligan who caught it. The wind was unbelievable and it was a contributing factor to how each team played in each half.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4sam on March 18, 2008, 11:45:48 AM
We caught 2, Mckeever in the second half ran across the field to collect 1. the only 2 balls we got at midfield were uncontested. The 1 Galligan got was the first kickout of the game and every1 was caught out by the wind, after that Meath were on top.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on March 18, 2008, 01:47:42 PM
2.5 days of a cooling down period has now finished and Lawrence is still bubbling. Anyone that was at the match will note that midfield was indeed the determining factor but let's go through it with a fine comb to try and get inside the head of the jester that is Mr. Keoghan. His attempts to give every midfielder in the county a chance (albeit less than half an hour) continued with a starting place for young Galligan from Lacken. He started well, fielding a hanging ball, offloading to McCabe who used the wind superbly. For the rest of his time he competed and neither won nor lost his personal battle to any great extent. Considering he was on the giant Ward this has to be commendable. But our Leader saw differently and called him ashore before half-time. Even at that you could say fair enough but the change consisted of Finbar coming on at wing-forward with McKeever going in to "mark" Ward at approx 7 inches smaller.
So when the inevitable wind-assisted comeback from the other shower started, Keoghan oversaw our keeper drive kickout after kickout to a midfield sector hopelessly being overrun. How many times does the ball have to go straight back down and over our bar before this clown might try something, anything, different to change the flow? Oh lest I forget he did try something. He brought the kid from The Incredibles in from the wing to add a little weight to the centre. Laughable if I wasn't so f**king wet. Seriously this is basic stuff and either he changes the midfield pairing or he tells Miller to kick the f**king ball somewhere else.
Talking of Mr. Mackey, what rock has he crawled out from under? I thought we'd seen the last of him and his one effort on goal with his left foot travelled about 20 metres in the air and about 10 towards their keepers chest.

All the rumours have started now. Flanagan being injured and out of U-21 game due to Keoghan starting him against the Dubs against the players wishes. Mackey now dropped from both panels for drinking offences. And finally, but at the top of the list if any truth can be attached to it, a lock-in in the imperial after the game on Saturday night with most of the players involved. Rumours is all they are but this is is the stuff of Albert Square and such and I'm not in the mood for laughing.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on March 18, 2008, 03:57:58 PM
Please see signature. That will be all. Thank you.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on March 19, 2008, 08:13:33 AM
Quote from: Lawrence of Knockbride on March 18, 2008, 01:47:42 PM
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All the rumours have started now. Flanagan being injured and out of U-21 game due to Keoghan starting him against the Dubs against the players wishes. Mackey now dropped from both panels for drinking offences. And finally, but at the top of the list if any truth can be attached to it, a lock-in in the imperial after the game on Saturday night with most of the players involved. Rumours is all they are but this is is the stuff of Albert Square and such and I'm not in the mood for laughing.

Thats seem to go on after every game there wouldn't be another county in the country at it.  Also heard that Walsh was brought back in without the knowledge of the selectors and the first they knew about it was when they seen him in dressing room.   I fell that there is a decent enough team there if they had some leadership along the line and all this crap of drinking at weekends stopped.  This year is a loss now anyway and all we can hope for is a decent management team next year but a good manger won't get the full support of the players because they won't want to give up the drink.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4sam on March 19, 2008, 11:29:15 AM
Has anyone any inside info on the startin team for tonight in the u21 match?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on March 19, 2008, 11:42:05 AM
Quote from: cavan4sam on March 19, 2008, 11:29:15 AM
Has anyone any inside info on the startin team for tonight in the u21 match?

From a poster on Hoganstand


1) simon delaney
2)sean mccormak
3)rory dunne
4)niall o reilly
5)finbarr jordan
6)dane o dowd
7)daniel graham
8)raymond galligan
9)james mcenroe
10)barry watters
11)paddy brady
12)martin reilly
13)enda gaffney
14)coner smith
15)eugene keating
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Hollow Man on March 19, 2008, 12:59:40 PM
Flanagan is a massive loss.

I'd say Keating will come out round midfield.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on March 19, 2008, 01:06:01 PM
Quote from: cavan4ever on March 19, 2008, 08:13:33 AM
I fell that there is a decent enough team there if they had some leadership along the line and all this crap of drinking at weekends stopped.  This year is a loss now anyway and all we can hope for is a decent management team next year but a good manger won't get the full support of the players because they won't want to give up the drink.

Correct. A while ago I proposed a new manager, a disbanded panel and only those players committing to a code of conduct and excellence to be allowed back in.

If that means we have 30 junior footballers/U21s representing Cavan for the next three years and results go backwards (even more backwards that is) then so be it, we'd ironically be in a stronger position at the end of it to have laid down a marker and put a correct, healthy structure in place. And I'm assuming there's quite a few decent skins on the current panel would sign up as well so I'm just offering the nuclear option with the juniors/U21s thing.
We're moving deckchairs on the Titanic for years now only worrying about the short term and carrying guys who want the attention of being a county footballer but not the responsibility that goes with it unfortunately.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on March 19, 2008, 01:28:38 PM
Well in defence of the majority of the players, and as a former player myself. If you are on a panel and are expected  to make huge sacrifices then it is reasonable to expect that things will be done right and fair. If on the other hand you have a set-up where the manager is an idiot, has no tactics at all, no man management skills, subs new players 15 minutes in etc - then in this instance it is clear to players and supporters alike that the team is going nowhere. Now if a player was to take that opinion, maybe it isn't such a big jump to saying "whats the point in me making all these sacrifices for this?" In summary, if the thing was going well this behaviour would be imited to a couple of muppets that should be kicked of the panel. In a situation where the set up is fast becoming a total farce then all standards start to drop elsewhere. It is only a shame that Keoghan the clown is over the U21's too
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on March 19, 2008, 02:16:00 PM
Yes that's a very reasonable point too Myles, I/we do always tend to blame the players and who's to say that maybe Mattie Kerrigan, McElkennon and so on weren't exactly the types to inspire great devotion or commitment in a body of young men like McHugh and Coleman did. Keogan doesn't bear mentioning but the county board are very culpable as well and, as supposed custodians of the game in our county and as those charged with helping the county team be the best it can be, they've proven to be abject failures also.

There is a responsibility on both sides of the white line, you're right, but that said there definitely have been some guys swinging the lead in the last decade and at some point, a stop dead and reassess approach has to be taken so a totally fresh start can be made with a manager who knows what he's doing and can therefore leave any errant players with nowhere to hide. We missed the last opportunity to do this when McElkennon stepped down, surely we can't make the same mistake again when Keogie Bear packs up his picnic basket and goes, as hopefully he will come June?

We can all see there are players good enough in Cavan to have us ranked among the second tier of teams outside of the leading Sam contenders every year. McHugh proved we can belong there and perhaps beyond but only if everyone is on board - players, county board - and if the right manager is there at the helm with the knowledge and ability steering it along.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on March 19, 2008, 02:46:14 PM
Keogan strikes me as the kind of guy who doesn't know his own limitations (after all he feckin applied for this job) and I doubt he would resign at the end of this season... so that leaves us hoping that the county board to push him out the door.... I'm not gonna hold my breath on that one
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on March 19, 2008, 03:53:50 PM
Quote from: Celt_Man on March 19, 2008, 02:46:14 PM
Keogan strikes me as the kind of guy who doesn't know his own limitations (after all he feckin applied for this job) and I doubt he would resign at the end of this season... so that leaves us hoping that the county board to push him out the door.... I'm not gonna hold my breath on that one

One of the problems is that if a club needs a few bob for something and approach him he is generous enough and will normally throw a few Euro's there way. This is why clubs may not want to upset him. 
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on March 19, 2008, 03:59:23 PM
I just heard that Mackey is gone from the panel. Apparently Keoghan organised the lock in for the boys on Saturday night (I suppose it is his venue so who else would organise it). Mackey went on the piss on Sunday again and was dropped from the panel when Keoghan found out?? I don't know any more than that but does that mean Keoghan allowed U21's with an Ulster championship match in 3 days, to go on an all night bender in his pub and sanctioned by himself. That is a sackable offence in my book and if the members of the county board have any f**king balls that is exactly what they will do right now! The end of  the season is not good enough after this.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on March 19, 2008, 04:04:21 PM
They're the eegits appointed him, I wouldn't hold my breath for swift and determined retribution... ;)

Sad but true, if it is true.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on March 19, 2008, 04:19:21 PM
It's all fun and games till someone loses an eye!!!!!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on March 19, 2008, 04:54:41 PM
Just heard that there is going to be a drinks ban from next weekend. That will give them at least one more lock-in anyway.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on March 19, 2008, 05:09:55 PM
Anyone going to the U21 game tonight I wonder, or providing scores to the guy that advertises the service on here?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on March 19, 2008, 05:12:26 PM
Are Northern Muppets not commentating on it. 250 mile round trip on a wednesday to watch a team managed by Keogan is a bridge to far for me.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on March 19, 2008, 05:20:12 PM
The service where folks text in latest scores is on www.gaaradio.com, if anyone at the match is doing the Good Samaritan thing, you might find a few scores there...
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Cavanfan on March 19, 2008, 05:36:05 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on March 19, 2008, 05:12:26 PM
Are Northern Muppets not commentating on it. 250 mile round trip on a wednesday to watch a team managed by Keogan is a bridge to far for me.

It's a pity that this is the way we are thinking. I think it would be nice to get a crowd up for the lads and cheer them on. 
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: ExiledGael on March 19, 2008, 08:13:38 PM
Seems Derry were, and they're going ok. But maybe not for long.
I hear a lot of criticism of Keogan, can somebody sum up what exactly makes him so shit? (Apart from rumours)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on March 19, 2008, 08:21:32 PM
He has no CV for inter county level EG

Manged a talented Minor panel, and done nothing with them,

Hasnt managed a club team in Cavan to my knowledge,

Hes not a qualified sports scientist or Physical Trainer either.

Compare him to your own Malachy O Rourke,Titles in Cavan and Tyrone and Derry with Cavan Gaels , Errigal Chiarain, and Loup and an Ulster Club With Loup,

Theres just no comparison.

and then theres the off the field troubles hes had,Dont even get me started ::)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: ExiledGael on March 19, 2008, 08:26:19 PM
Is he in the second year of a two year deal?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on March 19, 2008, 08:31:12 PM
Quote from: ExiledGael on March 19, 2008, 08:26:19 PM
Is he in the second year of a two year deal?

not sure its either a 2 or 3 year deal he got,Theres no way he will be around next year though unless we go an a completely unexpected winning spree this year.Thank God for that.
Unfortunately this year is a write off.
Possible win against Antrim,Might lose that too
Then defeat against Armagh and defeat in the first qualifying round.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on March 19, 2008, 09:38:46 PM
U21 result

Tyrone 2-10 Cavan 1-10. Another brave performance and another defeat. Wasn't at it so have no details except it was 1-06 each at half time
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on March 19, 2008, 10:49:08 PM
Ah but sure we were unlucky I'm sure!

Cheers for the result anyway.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on March 20, 2008, 09:06:31 AM
One other item of interest is that Tyrone played the last 11 minutes with 14 men and won thanks to a late goal. Also, seems sessions in the imperial also happened after the Dublin defeat the week before. Some joke.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on March 20, 2008, 09:19:54 AM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on March 20, 2008, 09:06:31 AM
One other item of interest is that Tyrone played the last 11 minutes with 14 men and won thanks to a late goal. Also, seems sessions in the imperial also happened after the Dublin defeat the week before. Some joke.

It goes on after every Saturday Night game and probaly happens on the weekends that there are no games also.  Heard that Mulvey has left the panel now.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on March 20, 2008, 09:21:47 AM
From the Tyrone Board seems like a typical Cavan performance

Quote from: DirtyDozen12 on March 19, 2008, 10:03:41 PM
Heard Tyrone under 21's won by a goal tonight in the championship played at Omagh.  Anyone actually present at the game to give us a run down on the proceedings??


Good first (1-6) and last (1-2) 10 minutes with a terrible 40 (0-2) in between. Johnny Lafferty got a well worked goal in the first half and Colm Cavanagh got a fairly soft (from a defensive viewpoint) fisted goal which won the game for Tyrone - left it 2-8 to 1-10 when Cavan where totally on top. Danny McBride of Strabane got sent off for a second yellow. Sean O'Neill of Dromore would have been my MOTM, followed by Niall McGinn of Eskra. Colm Cavanagh had an outstanding last 10 minutes after being virtually anonymous for the preceding 50. Midfield was cleaned out during the terrible 40 minutes, but excelled during the good bits. To keep Ziggy happy Danny McDermott replaced Niall Kerr about 10 minutes into the second half, but didn't really get into the game.

Cavan will be gutted to have lost this and have every right to be.

Tyrone v Down next week, presumably at Casement.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on March 20, 2008, 10:10:30 AM
What a shock. Keoghans Cavan play well for long periods and lose in the last 10 minutes (a period in which they had an extra man). I am sure Donal worked on what to do with an extra man in training with the lads... Oh wait, didn't he tell  them to train with their colleges? I think we need him gone right now. Maybe then we could at least get a new man in with a chance to at least motivate the players for the championship. Leaving him there till the end of the season brings nothing to Cavan football except more disgrace.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on March 20, 2008, 10:38:21 AM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on March 20, 2008, 10:10:30 AM
What a shock. Keoghans Cavan play well for long periods and lose in the last 10 minutes (a period in which they had an extra man). I am sure Donal worked on what to do with an extra man in training with the lads... Oh wait, didn't he tell  them to train with their colleges? I think we need him gone right now. Maybe then we could at least get a new man in with a chance to at least motivate the players for the championship. Leaving him there till the end of the season brings nothing to Cavan football except more disgrace.

Im afraid that won't happen so as said before all we can do is write off this year and hope for a decent setup next year.  Its the least the players and supporters deserve.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on March 20, 2008, 11:39:13 AM
Quote from: cavan4ever on March 20, 2008, 09:21:47 AM
From the Tyrone Board seems like a typical Cavan performance

Good first (1-6) and last (1-2) 10 minutes with a terrible 40 (0-2) in between. Johnny Lafferty got a well worked goal in the first half and Colm Cavanagh got a fairly soft (from a defensive viewpoint) fisted goal which won the game for Tyrone - left it 2-8 to 1-10 when Cavan where totally on top. Danny McBride of Strabane got sent off for a second yellow. Sean O'Neill of Dromore would have been my MOTM, followed by Niall McGinn of Eskra. Colm Cavanagh had an outstanding last 10 minutes after being virtually anonymous for the preceding 50. Midfield was cleaned out during the terrible 40 minutes, but excelled during the good bits. To keep Ziggy happy Danny McDermott replaced Niall Kerr about 10 minutes into the second half, but didn't really get into the game.

Cavan will be gutted to have lost this and have every right to be.

Am trying very, very hard not to run and hurl myself in front of a f**king bus. (http://www.est1892.co.uk/forums/images/smilies/liverpool/ranting.gif) There goes the best set of underage players the county has ever had, mismanaged at minor and U21 by a buffoon with the county board's blessing, and with nothing to show for their efforts apart from the usual bullshit soon to appear in the Celt about how 'unlucky' they were and 'agonisingly close to a breakthrough.'

It makes my f**king blood boil. How many more tales of woe and underachievement must there be before someone gets a handle on the situation and addresses the fact that our teams are being beaten for the lack of something upstairs between their ears and not necessarily what's missing downstairs in their feet?

Once again we play really well and an usual, once the teams with a big reputation come at us late on we don't have the gumption or true belief to stand firm and see the f**king thing home, like they'd be able to do against us if the roles were reversed. You could have scripted this horror story last month, yet another Cavan team buckles at the knees with yet another winning post in sight against yet another big name team simply because deep down, they always expect to lose.

Anyway, I've a bus to catch, I'm outta here. (http://www.est1892.co.uk/forums/images/smilies/liverpool/wallbash.gif)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on March 21, 2008, 05:33:14 PM
Moving on from the depression that is the county set up at the weekend.... any opinions on the league games this weekend? For the record I could see the games panning out as follows...

Division One
Cavan Gaels v Ballyhaise. Gaels by 4 or 5, wouldn't be surprised if they struggled thru this one
Crosserlough v Lacken think lacken might catch C'lough on d hop in this one if Finbarr isn't injured from Meath game
Mullahoran v Cuchullains home win for the Dreadnoughts
Lavey v Denn Possibly lavey but a draw wouldn't shock me in this derby
Killygarry v Drumalee another derby but can see Martin Reilly being the difference here
Castlerahan v Belturbet.  This one all depends on wheither Brady, Flanagan and Mackey lined out for Castlerahan if not they will struggle and Belturbet could sneek it.
Gowna v Ballinagh game in Ballinagh, another tough one to call... gonna go for a draw in this one

Division Two

Bailieboro' Shamrocks v Ballymachugh. Shamrocks by 3/4 points
Drumlane v Cootehill. Celtics win by 2 or 3
Kingscourt v Drung. Kingscourt to struggle but win by 2 or 3
Killinkere v Knockbride. Lawrence will be the difference Knocks by 5
Ramor Utd. v Shercock. Ramor by 5
Killeshandra Leaguers v Redhills -  very tight one to call... two good young footballing teams but Leaguers to make home advantage count, home win by a point or two
Cavan Gaels v Drumgoon. Gaels first team playing the day before is a factor and could see them sneaking a surprise win here after a good showing the last day against Ramor

Division Three (I confess don't know a great deal about some of these teams)

Shannon Gaels v Kildallan. another derby, maybe home advantage might count for something??? Gaels win
Butlersbridge v Arva. Bridge win
Cornafean v Munterconnacht kind of a mystery here but can't ever remember an easy away game against Cornafean so gonna give them the shout
Kill v Laragh Utd. Laragh win, Kill aren't a great side and Laragh will be looking for promotion this year
Templeport v Maghera. Templeport to avenge the playoff defeat from last year
Crosserlough v Swanlinbar - Swad should have too much for C'lough seconds
Mountnugent v Corlough - Another mystery to be honest, so I'll go for home win???

These are only my opinions and I trust we can be a bit more civilised here unlike posters on Hoganstand if anyone disagrees....
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: DirtyDozen12 on March 21, 2008, 05:48:40 PM
Here Cavan lads, report on the under 21 match the other night.  Was talking to a few people who where at it and apparently Tyrone where very lucky, Cavan probably should have won the game from what i heard:

QuoteTyrone made it through to the Ulster semi final but they were made to fight hard for their win against Cavan at Healy Park last night in an entertaining encounter.

It was honours even at halftime 1-6 apiece although Tyrone will feel they should have been ahead as they kicked seven wides to their opponents none. Tyrone started brightly with Aidan Cassidy and Shane O'Hagan on top in midfield and points from Gareth Devlin and Cathal McCarron were followed by a brilliant goal from full forward Johnny Lafferty in the seventh minute.

Cavan though responded two minutes later when Paddy Brady placed Enda Gaffney for a neat finish low to the bottom left hand corner of the net. Two McCarron frees was followed by a fine effort from O'Hagan as Tyrone forged three ahead again but a brace of frees from Raymond Galligan kept the Breffini men in touch before efforts from Brady and Eugene Keating drew them level at the short whistle.

In the second half Cavan forged two points ahead with Galligan proving unerring from placed balls and things didn't look good for the hosts when full back Danny McBride was sent off for a second yellow card offence. With six minutes to go Tyrone senior star Colm Cavanagh got on the end of a Lafferty free to palm to the net before the same player added a gem with his left. Substitute Conor O'Donnell then put Tyrone further ahead as the Cavan challenge faded.

Tyrone – G Kelly, N McGinn, D McBride, C McGinley, N Kerr, S O'Neill [0-1],  H Gallagher, A Cassidy, S O'Hagan [0-1], G Devlin [0-1], C Cavanagh [1-2], J McAnulla, R McRory [0-1], J Lafferty [1-1], C McCarron [0-2]. D McDermott for Kerr, C O'Donnell [0-1] for Devlin

Cavan – S Delaney, N O'Reilly, R Dunne, S McCormack, F Jordan, D O'Dowd, D Graham, R Galligan [0-6], J McEnroe, B Watters, P Brady [0-1], M Reilly [0-1], E Keating [0-1], C Smith, E Gaffney [1-1]. Subs – C Mackey for Graham
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on March 23, 2008, 11:37:13 PM
Gaels beat us 1-08 to 0-07 on Saturday, poor game,
Fairly evenly matched,
They brought Johnstone on with 15 minutes left,
he scored 4 points, a class act,
we just didnt produce what we are capeable of either though.

Also Darren Rabbitte was playing for the Gaels,He was very good,looked very fit.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Davitt Man on March 25, 2008, 11:18:57 AM
Shannon Gaes v Kildallon

any report on the Shannon Gaels v Kildallon game?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on March 25, 2008, 12:07:58 PM
Quote from: Davitt Man on March 25, 2008, 11:18:57 AM
Shannon Gaes v Kildallon

any report on the Shannon Gaels v Kildallon game?

Shannon Gaels 1-06, Kildallon 1-07. I don't think there are any posters from Ballyconnel on the forum so your best bet for a report would be www.hoganstand.com/cavan (if you can bear wading through all the shite comments to find it). Decent win on paper anyway as Shannon Gaels are one of the better junior league teams.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Hollow Man on March 25, 2008, 01:08:15 PM
Who was the ref CC1?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: shotstopper1 on March 25, 2008, 01:38:43 PM
w/e results from aertel

Div 1

Crosserlough    0-9   Lacken  2-7
Cavan Gaels    1-8   Ballyhaise 0-7
Mullahoran        0-8  Cuchullains  1-7
Lavey        1-5  Denn       0-8
Killygarry        0-8  Drumalee  1-8
Castlerahan        P     Belturbet   
Gowna        1-8  Ballinagh   1-7

Div 2

Bailieboro   1-10     Ballymachugh   1-6
Drumlane   0-5      Cootehill         2-9
Kingscourt   0-14     Drung   1-11
Ramor Utd  2-20    Shercock   2-6
Killeshandra 0-9      Redhills   0-6
Killinkere   0-7      Knockbride   0-7
Cavan Gaels 4-8     Drumgoon   1-6

Div 3

Shannon Gaels 1-6   Kildallan 1-7
Bultersbridge   1-13  Arva    1-5
Cornafean       0-9   Muntirconnacht   3-5
Kill       0-12  Laragh Utd.   1-8
Templeport       0-7   Maghera   1-4
Crosserlough   2-8   Swanlinbar   0-9
Mountnugent  1-7   Corlough   2-8

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on March 25, 2008, 02:12:37 PM
i believe Shannon Gaels are missing their Talisman Eamon Reily who is gone to London?????

if so they would be a good bit weaker than usual.

Good talent in that Killdalon club with the likes of Ronan Reily and Aaron Duignan anyway.

Laragh United have fairly slipped over the last 15/20 years, from winning senior championships to Division 3  :o
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Mr. Pain on March 25, 2008, 02:26:42 PM
The league is starting to gain momentum now. It's good to see it being played every weekend but im sure there will be a big gap somewhere. Great starts for Cuchullains, Lacken and the Gaels. Killygarry are already in trouble with Lavey close behind. It is early days though but vital times also. If Lacken can beat Castlerahan at home next weekend they may stay up. Laragh Utd should be bitterly disappointed to be beaten by Kill. It was also shocking to see Drumgoon beaten by Gaels2. It is all happening now and very interesting following. Rant over!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on March 25, 2008, 02:31:27 PM
Drumgoon are in disarray,

how can a team with

Eddie Jackson
Michael and Colm Hannon
Keith Fannin
Michael McDonald
Jim McNally

be losing to a second string outfit like the Gaels B Team.

we have Lavey and Killygarry the next two weekends,
even at this stage for them, they are must win games,
2 wins out of them and i think even at this stage we would be safe.

Joe O Connor has had a good start with Lacken, they will be tough to beat this year for anyone.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Mr. Pain on March 25, 2008, 03:42:49 PM
Indeed. Cuchullains will be hard beat this year. They have not got a bad team and i can see them challenging for league honours. Ballinagh are not doing so well yet but i suppose they were playing two supposed big guns. It might bring them down a peg or two. Ballyhaise will do ok too i think. Crosserlough will regain composure and have a good league. They have some good players. Drumalee will struggle. Killeshandra to finish near top of Div 2 but miss out on promotion. Ramor to regain Div 1 status. Rant over!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: CC1 on March 25, 2008, 04:33:38 PM
Quote from: Hollow Man on March 25, 2008, 01:08:15 PM
Who was the ref CC1?
Oliver Reilly from Mullahoran (I think thats his name). I couldn't believe some of the decisions he was coming out with, but hey I guess he's got a chip on his shoulder because Mullahoran are a senior club...
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Mr. Pain on March 25, 2008, 05:25:55 PM
Ollie the Finn. Not surprised.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Hollow Man on March 25, 2008, 07:56:36 PM
He's far and away the worst ref I've seen in Cavan in the last few years, ridiculous comments to players (myself included) and generally poor attitude

Also one of the most shall we say "ignorant" refs since Pappy "f**k You" Woods...
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on March 25, 2008, 08:36:15 PM
He is brutal in fairness... now there are a lot of bad referees in cavan i.e. they are just gonna get decisions wrong for both sides and you just have to accept that and move on... but there a few, only a few mind, that are very nasty and deliberately go against certain teams and sometime individual players... in certain cases making comments before a ball has even been thrown in
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on March 26, 2008, 09:37:03 AM
Quote from: CC1 on March 26, 2008, 09:00:21 AM
But f**k it... We'll just have to take it to the Gaels B's at the weekend, try and take our frustration out on them...

Best of luck in that one!!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Hollow Man on March 26, 2008, 01:20:07 PM
CC1, I feel your pain.

Shite refs are one thing, but having been on the receiving end of that particular individual's ignorance, I don't think he should be a referee. If he feels the need to verbally abuse players (I remember asking him the score while jogging past, his reponse was "Isn't there a f**king scoreboard up there?") and conduct himself like he tends to, he must be a couple of sandwiches short of a picnic....

He actually reffed games in the Ulster minor championship last year as well - the mind boggles...





Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on March 26, 2008, 02:22:45 PM
Once upon a time I was captaining our junior team and the great Brian Crowe was reffing. He informed me at the coin toss that this particular game was a "mickey mouse" game and a waste of his  time. He said he was only there to stand in for another ref who was unable to attend and if he had have realised that it was a junior match he wouldn't have bothered. This man has ref'd all irelands finals.

A ref should not be giving chat to players except to say what they did wrong. There should be no insults or slagging or any of that. If a ref feels a player is giving him guff he should use his cards to reply, not his mouth. That lad Terry ???? from lacken was the same, always having something to say to players and him then in charge of county underage teams.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on March 26, 2008, 02:54:57 PM
Gowna 1-8  Ballinagh 1-7

Another one that got away for our lot.

Ballinagh dominated the early periods of the game and were also benefiting from a strong wind on their backs but frustratingly just couldn't translate this into scores. When we did finally manage to game some headway we let Gowna back in the game with calamitous goal leaving only the minimum of differences at the break. The sides exchanged points in the early stages of the second half with Gowna eventually leveling the game after scores from McCabe and Pierson. A draw looked ominous but Mark McKeever popped up to kick a monster point from all of 45 yards on the sideline to ensure the Gowna boys took the spoils.

Pierson (although well marshaled by Patrick Carroll) seemed to be playing on one leg and took both his scores during the game with his weaker left peg. McCabe took a few beautiful frees but wasn't his usual force in play but did improve in the second half. McKeever was excellent and some of his points were just breath-taking. As for Ballinagh Patrick Carroll, Podge and Damien McInerney were best.

So two home games leaves Ballinagh with two one-point defeats ..... Good job the next one's a handy one  :-\

Quote from: mylestheslasher on March 26, 2008, 02:22:45 PM
That lad Terry ???? from lacken was the same, always having something to say to players and him then in charge of county underage teams.

That's Terry Brady he's a right pain in the hole alright.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: DirtyDozen12 on March 26, 2008, 02:57:48 PM
Quote from: shotstopper1 on March 25, 2008, 01:38:43 PM
w/e results from aertel

Div 1
Mullahoran        0-8  Cuchullains  1-7

Lads, has the Cavan league started long?  How many games are you in so far?  Any reviews on how Mullahoran are doing? interesting being a Tyrone man in which Mullahoran have Tyrone management.

Thanks
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on March 26, 2008, 04:15:28 PM
Quote from: CC1 on March 26, 2008, 10:04:50 AM
Quote from: cavan4ever on March 26, 2008, 09:37:03 AM
Quote from: CC1 on March 26, 2008, 09:00:21 AM
But f**k it... We'll just have to take it to the Gaels B's at the weekend, try and take our frustration out on them...

Best of luck in that one!!
Thats why I said TRY... ;)

Of the team they played against Drumgoon, Their forwards will be dangerous
put Liam Og o Reily on Martin Dunne,Without him they are nowhere

Levi Murphy is dangerous,

Niall Collins if fit is very good

They also brought on Cormac Nelligan who can play abit

Midfield is of 2 of the most big and awkward lads you will ever meet, one 6'6 the other 6'3 and as strong as a horse,
They will spoil Michael O Reily/and or Brian Hamilton all day long

Backline is there for the taking,if your forwards are up to it.

Also be prepared for the verbals that ye are just a bunch of "farmers and junior footballers" that shouldnt be allowed on the same field as the "superstars" you are playing.
;D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on March 26, 2008, 04:45:18 PM
Quote from: DirtyDozen12 on March 26, 2008, 02:57:48 PM
Quote from: shotstopper1 on March 25, 2008, 01:38:43 PM
w/e results from aertel

Div 1
Mullahoran        0-8  Cuchullains  1-7

Lads, has the Cavan league started long?  How many games are you in so far?  Any reviews on how Mullahoran are doing? interesting being a Tyrone man in which Mullahoran have Tyrone management.

Thanks

Two games in already. I think Mullahoran have won one and lost one so far. Not really close enough to that club to know how training is going - they don't talk to outsiders!!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Mr. Pain on March 27, 2008, 09:44:21 AM
Quote from: Homer on March 26, 2008, 02:54:57 PM
McKeever was excellent and some of his points were just breath-taking. As for Ballinagh Patrick Carroll, Podge and Damien McInerney were best.
I wasn't at the game but was Podge not marking McKeever or did the papers get it wrong again. Seems funny that they both could play well if they were marking eachother.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on March 27, 2008, 11:43:52 AM
Quote from: Mr. Pain on March 27, 2008, 09:44:21 AM
Quote from: Homer on March 26, 2008, 02:54:57 PM
McKeever was excellent and some of his points were just breath-taking. As for Ballinagh Patrick Carroll, Podge and Damien McInerney were best.
I wasn't at the game but was Podge not marking McKeever or did the papers get it wrong again. Seems funny that they both could play well if they were marking eachother.

Podge and McKeever were marking eachother alright, and I know I seem to be contradicting myself but to be fair both players did actually stand out and they had a real good tussle over the hour. McKeever for me was man of the match, he linked-up well and took some fine scores whereas Podge cleaned up a lot of Gowna attacks and made good delivery into the Ballinagh forward line but in fairness to him there was little he could do to prevent some of the points McKeever put up.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Mr. Pain on March 27, 2008, 12:56:58 PM
Quote from: Homer on March 27, 2008, 11:43:52 AM
Quote from: Mr. Pain on March 27, 2008, 09:44:21 AM
Quote from: Homer on March 26, 2008, 02:54:57 PM
McKeever was excellent and some of his points were just breath-taking. As for Ballinagh Patrick Carroll, Podge and Damien McInerney were best.
I wasn't at the game but was Podge not marking McKeever or did the papers get it wrong again. Seems funny that they both could play well if they were marking eachother.

Podge and McKeever were marking eachother alright, and I know I seem to be contradicting myself but to be fair both players did actually stand out and they had a real good tussle over the hour. McKeever for me was man of the match, he linked-up well and took some fine scores whereas Podge cleaned up a lot of Gowna attacks and made good delivery into the Ballinagh forward line but in fairness to him there was little he could do to prevent some of the points McKeever put up.

Obviously the marking duties were not up to scratch. Otherwise one would cancel out the other.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on March 27, 2008, 01:40:11 PM
Any predictions for Saturday. I think a 5 point win for Cork with Mr Keoghan playing a star role for Cavan.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Hollow Man on March 27, 2008, 04:13:50 PM
Prediction for Saturday?

I reckon we'll show well enough early on, probably lead by four or five midway through the first half following a couple of points from Johnston, a couple from Martin Reilly and a left footed 14 metre free from Jason (who should keep his place for the next 12 months on the strength of that).

Cork will come back as McCabe starts to fade, doing his patented "swim run" on turning and beginning to give abuse to his teammates. Meanwhile, Mulvey will be sent off for being, well, just too damn tough, and will kick a Lucozade bottle on the way off just to hammer home the point. Walsh will then be brought in with more than likely Pierson (or whichever of the corner forwards hasn't got a pass yet) making way. After Cork get a couple more points on the board, Keogan will physically shit himself and take off whatever newcomer he started (come in Raymond Galligan/Ciaran Galligan/Declan Gaffney/Austin Fitzpatrick, your time is up) while frantically switching Martin Reilly back to mark the Cork fella who just scored the most recent point.

The Rebels will be level at half time and will rack up 1-4 in the first ten minutes of the second half. James Reilly will continue to belt every ball as far as he can and Walsh, not realising yet that Nicholas Murphy is too tall for him to stick his knees into the back of or to do something dirty with his digits, will fail to catch any ball with his fist (one of these days he will field one that way).

By the 45 minute mark, big Dermot is on the edge of the square and our one shining light Martin Reilly will have been switched to every position bar nets. The ref will move a free from the Cork 13 metre line back to the Cavan 13 metre line due to Forde's whinging.

Keogan will throw in Mackey in desperation, who will run around in circles and kick one ball 50 yards in the air from the 14 metre line.

We'll then introduce one of the stars of last year's Fr Manning Cup campaign, ("He's only 14 but he's class"), who will do so well in the first five minutes that he'll be captain by full time, taking the arm band as he's carried off on a stretcher holding his knee.

Peter Stringfellow will shrug his shoulders and scratch his head when interviewed after the game, wondering why his shouting "WORKRATE!" and having lots of money wasn't enought to see us take the points.

After that, it's back to the Imperial for a bit of grub and a piss up for most of the lads. We've a game the following week though, so NO SESSION TOMORROW LADS, says the gaffer. Actually, he'll text them that on his way to Coppers...

You heard it here first....

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on March 27, 2008, 04:32:06 PM
Quote from: Hollow Man on March 27, 2008, 04:13:50 PM
Prediction for Saturday?

I reckon we'll show well enough early on, probably lead by four or five midway through the first half following a couple of points from Johnston, a couple from Martin Reilly and a left footed 14 metre free from Jason (who should keep his place for the next 12 months on the strength of that).

Cork will come back as McCabe starts to fade, doing his patented "swim run" on turning and beginning to give abuse to his teammates. Meanwhile, Mulvey will be sent off for being, well, just too damn tough, and will kick a Lucozade bottle on the way off just to hammer home the point. Walsh will then be brought in with more than likely Pierson (or whichever of the corner forwards hasn't got a pass yet) making way. After Cork get a couple more points on the board, Keogan will physically shit himself and take off whatever newcomer he started (come in Raymond Galligan/Ciaran Galligan/Declan Gaffney/Austin Fitzpatrick, your time is up) while frantically switching Martin Reilly back to mark the Cork fella who just scored the most recent point.

The Rebels will be level at half time and will rack up 1-4 in the first ten minutes of the second half. James Reilly will continue to belt every ball as far as he can and Walsh, not realising yet that Nicholas Murphy is too tall for him to stick his knees into the back of or to do something dirty with his digits, will fail to catch any ball with his fist (one of these days he will field one that way).

By the 45 minute mark, big Dermot is on the edge of the square and our one shining light Martin Reilly will have been switched to every position bar nets. The ref will move a free from the Cork 13 metre line back to the Cavan 13 metre line due to Forde's whinging.

Keogan will throw in Mackey in desperation, who will run around in circles and kick one ball 50 yards in the air from the 14 metre line.

We'll then introduce one of the stars of last year's Fr Manning Cup campaign, ("He's only 14 but he's class"), who will do so well in the first five minutes that he'll be captain by full time, taking the arm band as he's carried off on a stretcher holding his knee.

Peter Stringfellow will shrug his shoulders and scratch his head when interviewed after the game, wondering why his shouting "WORKRATE!" and having lots of money wasn't enought to see us take the points.

After that, it's back to the Imperial for a bit of grub and a piss up for most of the lads. We've a game the following week though, so NO SESSION TOMORROW LADS, says the gaffer. Actually, he'll text them that on his way to Coppers...

You heard it here first....



:D
Nice One - although worryingly it is a quite accurate picture of how the standard Cavan game pans out.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on March 27, 2008, 04:41:51 PM
Quote from: Hollow Man on March 27, 2008, 04:13:50 PM
Prediction for Saturday?

I reckon we'll show well enough early on, probably lead by four or five midway through the first half following a couple of points from Johnston, a couple from Martin Reilly and a left footed 14 metre free from Jason (who should keep his place for the next 12 months on the strength of that).

Cork will come back as McCabe starts to fade, doing his patented "swim run" on turning and beginning to give abuse to his teammates. Meanwhile, Mulvey will be sent off for being, well, just too damn tough, and will kick a Lucozade bottle on the way off just to hammer home the point. Walsh will then be brought in with more than likely Pierson (or whichever of the corner forwards hasn't got a pass yet) making way. After Cork get a couple more points on the board, Keogan will physically shit himself and take off whatever newcomer he started (come in Raymond Galligan/Ciaran Galligan/Declan Gaffney/Austin Fitzpatrick, your time is up) while frantically switching Martin Reilly back to mark the Cork fella who just scored the most recent point.

The Rebels will be level at half time and will rack up 1-4 in the first ten minutes of the second half. James Reilly will continue to belt every ball as far as he can and Walsh, not realising yet that Nicholas Murphy is too tall for him to stick his knees into the back of or to do something dirty with his digits, will fail to catch any ball with his fist (one of these days he will field one that way).

By the 45 minute mark, big Dermot is on the edge of the square and our one shining light Martin Reilly will have been switched to every position bar nets. The ref will move a free from the Cork 13 metre line back to the Cavan 13 metre line due to Forde's whinging.

Keogan will throw in Mackey in desperation, who will run around in circles and kick one ball 50 yards in the air from the 14 metre line.

We'll then introduce one of the stars of last year's Fr Manning Cup campaign, ("He's only 14 but he's class"), who will do so well in the first five minutes that he'll be captain by full time, taking the arm band as he's carried off on a stretcher holding his knee.

Peter Stringfellow will shrug his shoulders and scratch his head when interviewed after the game, wondering why his shouting "WORKRATE!" and having lots of money wasn't enought to see us take the points.

After that, it's back to the Imperial for a bit of grub and a piss up for most of the lads. We've a game the following week though, so NO SESSION TOMORROW LADS, says the gaffer. Actually, he'll text them that on his way to Coppers...

You heard it here first....



Swim run! Perfect description! (http://www.est1892.co.uk/forums/images/smilies/liverpool/laugh.gif)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on March 27, 2008, 05:02:15 PM
Great post Hollow Man  :D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on March 27, 2008, 06:33:46 PM
nice post indeed Hollow man.... probably going to be another case of heroic failure on Saturday... unless the weird feeling I have isn't from a dodgy Chinese last night and might be a deep feeling Cavan may get something from this game on Saturday....

Anyway to the Club scene, perdictions for the weekend.... could be interesting to see how many casualties there will be as a result of the Cavan game on Saturday night

Division One

Belturbet v Mullahoran... Mullahorn to take points after slip up last week
Cuchullains v Gowna... going for Gowna in this one barring any injuries to McCabe or McKeever
Ballyhaise v Lavey.... very tough to call... going to say a draw there
Denn v Killygarry... Killygarry to win this one by point or two after recent disappointments
Lacken v Castlerahan... Lacken to continue impressive start by 2 or 3
Ballinagh v Cavan Gaels... Gaels to continue Ballinagh miserable if not unfortunate start with Johnstone for a change coming on in last 15 and winning the game barring injury
Drumalee v Crosserlough... another tough one but could see C'lough sneak it, a draw wouldn't be a shock either

Division Two

Shercock v Cavan Gaels. (Saturday fixture)... coz this is before the cavan game and more importantly the Gaels senior game on sunday, I fancy to win this one with Gaels missing their senior players
Knockbride v Ramor... a tight one both teams will be there abouts at the upper end of the table at years end... Larry to continues impressive form.. Knocks by a point
Drumgoon v Kingscourt. McCormacks free taking and Bates' inside knowledge of goonies to prove crucial... kingscourt by 3
Drung v Drumlane Drung no question going on Drumlane's form... they were hopeless last week
Cootehill Celtic v Killeshandra. Have to back ourselves for this one although it won't be easy against impressive leaguers outfit
Redhills v Bailieboro' Shamrocks. Redhills to pip this one at home
Ballymachugh v Killinkere. Killinkere to win by 3 as Clarke will eat up the space in Ballymachugh pitch

Division Three

Arva v Crosserlough (Sat) this being played a day before C'lough senior game is a factor, along with home advantage Arva by 4
Corlough v Cornafean Cornafean to jump back after last weeks defeat
Maghera v Butlersbridge. Bridge to continue good form
Swanlinbar v Shannon Gaels. West cavan derby... gonna vote for Swad by a two points
Munterconnacht v Kill Shamrocks. very tough one... Kill are going well with a serious effort being put in.. but Munterconnacht hard to break down at home - Draw
Kildallan v Mountnugent - Kildallan by 4
Laragh v Templeport - Laragh to bounce back after defeat to Kill last week


Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on March 27, 2008, 08:03:11 PM


Peter Stringfellow will shrug his shoulders and scratch his head when interviewed after the game, wondering why his shouting "WORKRATE!" and having lots of money wasn't enought to see us take the points.




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Brilliant post Hollow Man,maybe thats the only way to deal with these depressing times in Cavan football,stand back and laugh.I kno I've gone thru every other emotion! >:( >:(
This is my 1st post back on in like a year and a half Id say.Ballyhaise Man mite remember me.
Anyway Hollow Man we obviously both share the same disgust at having Peter Stringfellow over our Senior team.Im seriously thinkin of startin a petition to get him out.Who cares if I cant get into Double Vision,Im barred half the time anyway!!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on March 28, 2008, 08:39:45 AM
I reckon Mackey could start after the happenings of the last few weeks. Nicholas Murphy needs someone of his ilk to mark him and Mackey had plenty of practice against Ward in Navan. He's also got a few pints into him on Paddy's weekend and hopefully last week too. Hopefully he'll fun after one of those Garryowens, catch it and hit Keoghan as he goes for goal.

Seriously though lads, we're now getting onto the players as well as Keoghan. Maybe we need to boycott a few games if only for the sake of our mental health-have you not seen the ads. Then come May we'll be ready with all the fairweathers, we'll turn off the light before we leave and head for Belfast with unfounded hope and the Anglo-Celt will be ours. Now why doesn't this keyboard have a GIANT exclamation mark?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on March 28, 2008, 08:50:05 AM
Quote from: Lawrence of Knockbride on March 28, 2008, 08:39:45 AM
I reckon Mackey could start after the happenings of the last few weeks. Nicholas Murphy needs someone of his ilk to mark him and Mackey had plenty of practice against Ward in Navan. He's also got a few pints into him on Paddy's weekend and hopefully last week too. Hopefully he'll fun after one of those Garryowens, catch it and hit Keoghan as he goes for goal.

Seriously though lads, we're now getting onto the players as well as Keoghan. Maybe we need to boycott a few games if only for the sake of our mental health-have you not seen the ads. Then come May we'll be ready with all the fairweathers, we'll turn off the light before we leave and head for Belfast with unfounded hope and the Anglo-Celt will be ours (http://www.picturethisphotography.ca/images/ExclamationMark.gif)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Cavanfan on March 28, 2008, 10:10:26 AM
From the Hoganstand

Keogan rings the change
28 March 2008


Cavan boss Donal Keogan has made four changes to his team as the Breffni County go in search of their first NFL win against Cork at Kingspan Breffni Park on Saturday night.

From the side that lost to Meath a fortnight ago, out go Keith Fannin, Raymond Galligan, Micheal Lyng and Cian Mackey. They are replaced by John McCutcheon, John Cunningham, Ronan Flanagan and Eddie O'Reilly.

Cavan have lost all of their Division 2 games to date, and another defeat on Saturday would almost certainly consign them to Division 3 next season.

Cavan (SF v Cork): J Reilly; M Hannon, P Reilly, M Brides; J McCutcheon, A Forde, D Sheridan; D McCabe, J Cunningham; M Reilly, R Flanagan, M McKeever; E O'Reilly, S Johnston, G Pearson.


Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on March 28, 2008, 01:35:45 PM
Ta' Cavan4Ever-I must get me one of those new computers. Just saw the team and not too disheartenend. I'd definitely have tweaked it a little with Sean Brady in for that amandán at full forward but maybe he's not fit. Lyng being dropped is a tough call but might do him no harm. Fanin is hard done by despite his crossfield pass to Geraghty in Navan but he's not a corner back never was never will be and should be given more opportunities at wing-back. He played the second half there against the Dubs and was our best player that day, or was it Monaghan. Anyway, what we'll be we'll be.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on March 28, 2008, 02:31:55 PM
Quote from: boojangles on March 28, 2008, 12:10:43 PM
Ah seriously,I dont like turning on or giving out about players but i really dont see what Keoghan sees in John Cunningham,he's not near the standard,I know we need big men but slow,cumbersome and lazy are definetley not key attributes of any Inter-County footballer.
I also dont know what his problem with Keith Fannin is,over the last 3 years he has consistently been our best back after Michael Hannon.Mayb he's injured,Im not sure,Im not as informed as I used to b.Its hard keepin interest in a team managed by a man that has never managed a club team.
I think Flanagan is one of our best talents just not sure about him filling a central role just yet.
Wont make the game,Il b watching 1 of the most eagerly awaited Merseyside Derbies in years in Anfield.
As sad as it sounds I kno wher Id rather be this wkend.
Cork to snatch a win by 3 or 4.

Things would want to get a lot worse than at the moment for me to miss a Cavan game to watch a bunch of f**king pussies diving around the field in England. I'd say keoghan is just making changes for the sake of it, to show he is taking no shit. Mad Eddie has had his chance and if that is the best he can come up with then we are in big trouble. Mackey disappearance as quick as his reappearance is no harm. Flanagan at Ctr forward - why? Played brilliantly at Ctr Back in his last game - how does he expect players to grow into these important roles. Forde won't cut it there anymore so he should be on the wing. And as for his abysmal f**king around with midfield. Young Galligan gave a decent account against Meath and got took of and then dropped to be replaced by a guy who he gave a similar cameo appearance to previously to be dropped. What the f**k is he at?

Just to summarise his stupidty, did any of you see last weeks celt? Reporter ask Keoghan if he has any intention of addressing the fact that Cavan haven't had a proper settled midfield partnership since the 60's. Keoghan says that he will bring back John Joe O Reilly - very funny except John Joe played Ctr Back. Then asked to explain why he took of Galligan when most observers thought he did well Keoghan says he'd rather keep that one to himself (translates as I haven't a f**king clue).
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on March 28, 2008, 04:11:51 PM
welcome back to the board Boojangles.  :)
Looking forward to our war in July?  ;D
in Dermot mc cabe and Cunningham, Has there ever been a less mobile midfield at Inter County Football,

not forgetting both give about 3 inches of height to Nicholas Murphy aswell.

im abit suprised Darren Rabbite isnt in the reckoning as hes very fit looking.

Dont have a problem with Ronan Flanagan at centre forward, because while i think Michael Lyng is a great player, he just wasnt getting it done like we need from a CHF.He showed glimpses of that flair and passing ability but only glimpses.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on March 28, 2008, 04:41:36 PM
can't believe this.... From rte.ie

Cavan host Cork at Breffni Park knowing that anything less than a win over the Rebels will almost certainly condemn the hosts to Division 3 football next year.


The Ulster side's glaring deficiency has been their inability to hold on to leads in three of their four games to date.


It was only in the clash with neighbours Monaghan that Donal Keoghan's men showed no signs of taking two points, and the Breffni side's full-forward Seanie Johnston has admitted that Saturday's clash is 'do-or-die'.


Cork have been fortunate to have an away tie with Roscommon and a home game against Westmeath to bed them in to their late start to the campaign.


However, the time they lost as a result of the players' strike is likely to catch up on them before the league is out, and a Cavan side desperate to avoid relegation might just have too much of an edge for them.


The Rebels are in limbo - in that they are unlikely to be relegated but have little chance of promotion - and the distraction of upcoming games with Monaghan and Armagh may also be a factor.


Verdict: Cavan
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on March 28, 2008, 05:00:06 PM
in fairness Celt Man

This is a winnable game, Cork are never that good away from home in the League,
Cork beat a Roscommon team away that was walloped by 25 points against Armagh and a poor Westmeath team by their standards at home.

we would have or at least we should be far fitter than them aswell,Christ we have nearly 2 months training more done than them.

i believe they dont have their Nemo Rangers contingent starting either,

we will never have a better chance to beat Cork than tommorow.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Cavanfan on March 28, 2008, 05:22:43 PM
Things would want to get a lot worse than at the moment for me to miss a Cavan game to watch a bunch of f**king pussies diving around the field in England. I'd say keoghan is just making changes for the sake of it, to show he is taking no shit. Mad Eddie has had his chance and if that is the best he can come up with then we are in big trouble. Mackey disappearance as quick as his reappearance is no harm. Flanagan at Ctr forward - why? Played brilliantly at Ctr Back in his last game - how does he expect players to grow into these important roles. Forde won't cut it there anymore so he should be on the wing. And as for his abysmal f**king around with midfield. Young Galligan gave a decent account against Meath and got took of and then dropped to be replaced by a guy who he gave a similar cameo appearance to previously to be dropped. What the f**k is he at?

Just to summarise his stupidty, did any of you see last weeks celt? Reporter ask Keoghan if he has any intention of addressing the fact that Cavan haven't had a proper settled midfield partnership since the 60's. Keoghan says that he will bring back John Joe O Reilly - very funny except John Joe played Ctr Back. Then asked to explain why he took of Galligan when most observers thought he did well Keoghan says he'd rather keep that one to himself (translates as I haven't a f**king clue).
[/quote]

Aw this got me lauging. Excellent synopsis.

I'm not sure about changing Flanagan from CHB to CHF and I think it was tough on Lyng don't think he deserved to be dropped. Can't show much flair if your not getting the ball and when your told your job is to stay on the CHF line. Was the same with Martin Reilly in the Meath game he didn't see much of the ball in the 2nd half.  I also think Galligan should be given another opportunity at midfield he wasn't bad two weeks ago.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on March 28, 2008, 06:59:12 PM
Seemingly Rabitte played very well for the Gaels last week and no shortage of fitness which was the main worry. Why is he there if he's not fit to play and he's been there since the first McKenna Cup game if that beautifully constructed programme was anything to go by. Myles, I'm not sure you're anti-soccer line was necessary. It sounds like a great opportunity to take in such a game and diving or otherwise I don't think it should be run down.

I reckon Cunningham has done ok at midfield if a little raw. I don't rate Gaffney esp if he's alongside McCabe as he's not much of a runner. Did any of the  U-21s get promoted. I'm thinking Finbar Jordan as he's looked good for years despite his size disadvantage.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on March 28, 2008, 07:12:10 PM
John Cunningham is a good player,but isnt terribely mobile,It might be ok if he were alongside someone like McKenna,but hes alongside someone else who is even slower!!!!!
Disappointed Rabbitte didnt get a start,It would free Podge to play in the half back line(he would be a much better CHB than Forde)

You can virtually pick the team for the championship now anyway

1.Miller
2.M Hannon
3.Podge
4.Brides/Fannin
5.McCutcheon
6.Forde/Flanagan
7.Sheridan
8.McCabe
9.One from Galligan,Cunningham,Mulvey(heard rumours he was off the panel) or Gaffney
10.Martin Reily
11.Lyng/Flanagan
12.McKeever
13.Eddie/Jason
14.Jelly
15.Pierson
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on March 29, 2008, 09:59:58 PM
well lads,just back from the Seanie Johnstone show, good performance by the team all round,i didnt think for a second we would hold out for the win,but fair play to the lads, hopefully we have turned a corner now.

1.James Reily, two good saves in the first half,kickouts good,but not alert often enough for the short option,still one of the best in the business. 7

2.Michael Hannon, Outstanding for me, Moved onto Donncha O Connor,after 20 minutes and done a great job on him, holding him to 0-1 from play,even though O Connor was the focal point for all Corks attacks and about 80% of the ball in was targeted towards him. 9

3.Padraig Reily, Destroyed by Donncha O Connor in the first 20 minutes,who scored 4 points from play on him,just didnt have the speed to stay with him, came good after though, and was very solid for the rest of the game. 7

4.Michael Brides,done a good job on Kevin O Sullivan,i had my doubts whether he was still up to it at this level,he proved it tonight. 7

5.John McCutcheon, another one of Keoghans substitutions, the Cootehill man didnt seem to be doing anything wrong, yet was taken off after 25 minutes,Unless he was injured im mystified over it. 6

6.Anthony Forde, Fintan Gould was very prominent for Cork throughout the game, but in fairness Forde done a fair job on him,and got on alot of ball,Passing was erratic at times though. 7

7.Dermot Sheridan, not one of his better games ive seen him play, but was nonetheless fairly solid. 7

8.Dermot McCabe, very good i thought kicked 2 points one from play one from a free, and was at the heart of alot of what was good, sprayed some lovely ball around to the forwards. 8

9.John Cunningham,competed well with Nicholas Murphy, still dont think hes the answer at midfield,but done nothing wrong,theres a place in the team for him in my opinion, and thats wing half back if anything. 7

10.Martin Reily,Got on alot of ball,workrate as ever tremendous,He comes far too deep for my liking,hes one of our better scorers,i would like to see him nearer the goals,Replaced by Lyng in second half. 7

11.Ronan Flanagan, very good game i thought,showed Tremendously,and passing was in the most part first class, ball handling a bit suspect in parts but overall. very good. 8

12.Mark McKeever,he irritates the hell out of me when he holds onto the ball too long drawing tackles from all angles, apart from two passes which went wayward, he was very good, carried the ball well. 8

13.Eddie Reily,Best game ive seen him play for Cavan, you got the usual heart,guts and determination thats never been lacking,but he had a bit of composure about him tonight,made some very good runs,also gave the simple pass instead of trying the impossible points or passes which we've seen from him previously.Very Good. 8

14.Seanie Johnstone, well what can be said, an absolute Masterclass, 9 points in all, 6 from play 3 from frees,they tried Grahanm Canty on him,he scored 4 from play,they tried doubling him, he scored another 2 or 3, They had to resort to playing 3 men on him near the end,He was on fire,Probably the best single individual performance ive seen from a Cavan Player,along with Pierson in Navan a few years ago. 10

15.Ger Pierson,started ok,kicked a good score from play,and won a free,taken off at half time though replaced by Jayo at half time. 7

Subs, Jason Reily,showed well and won some good ball when he came on. 7

Barry Watters,replaced McCutcheon,then got injured and was replaced himself at half time by Rory Dunne. 6

Rory Dunne, not involved much,but done nothing wrong 6

Michael Lyng,very good when he came on,sprayed some lovely ball into the full forward line. 8

Lorcan Mulvey, came on for Cunningham in injury time to waste time.

what we found out tonight is that:

Podge will struggle against really quick full forwards,(although he could have been injured)

Midfield still isnt solved,even though both McCabe and Cunningham had solid games,

we are very poor at picking up the breaks, for periods of 10/15 minutes in the second half, Cork won 5/6 straight breaks from contested kickouts,we dont seem to geared to collect the breaking ball at all.

Seanie Johnstone is on fire, but is going to be a marked man for the rest of the league and championship,
we will need more fscores from the likes of Martin Reily,Flanagan ,McKeever and Eddie and desperately need a fit Pierson.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: gortnaleck on March 30, 2008, 05:51:28 AM
Thanks for the report Haiseman.I was listening to Northern Sound and that is tough shit.They would talk about everything but the match.You would never know what part of the field the ball was in until they would interupt one of their stories to say there was another point scored for either team.I am delighted for the lads and that was a good win.Cork could probably have won the All Ireland except their keeper had a mare of a game.Midfield seemed to do OK seeing as Murphy is an All Star. Pity Pierson cant step up.The league results are a fair enough reflection of the team .There not as good as Armagh,could have sneaked a win.Dublin and Monaghan are better than them,Meath are pretty close to them,lost o the day,Cork are better than them but they got a win.By the way the Lock in has been postponed until Sunday night.Seemingly there are League games on Sunday
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: ExiledGael on March 30, 2008, 04:18:03 PM
Last year's break seems to have done Johnston good, outstanding last night. Unplayable almost.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: shotstopper1 on March 31, 2008, 12:39:03 PM
w/e results
Div 1

Belturbet   1-8  Mullahoran 1-10
Cuchullains   3-8  Gowna        0-10
Ballyhaise   1-9  Lavey        0-14
Denn   P    Killygarry     P
Lacken   0-7 Castlerahan 1-7
Ballinagh   0-11  Cavan Gaels 0-8
Drumalee    0-4   Crosserlough 1-8

Div 2
Shercock   P  Cavan Gaels  P
Knockbride   P  Ramor Utd    P
Drumgoon   1-10  Kingscourt 1-6
Drung   P      Drumlane  P
Cootehill   0-9   Killeshandra  0-12
Redhills   1-9   Bailieboro     1-2
Ballymachugh  1-14  Killinkere  2-9

Div 3
Arva   P    Crosserlough   P
Corlough   1-8  Cornafean    1-5
Maghera   P    Bultersbridge  P
Swanlinbar   3-6  Shannon Gaels 2-9
Muntirconnacht  P  Kill   P
Kildallan   1-9  Mountnugent  1-7
Laragh Utd.    P   Templeport    P


Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: shotstopper1 on March 31, 2008, 12:44:17 PM
Div 1   
   PL   Pts
Cuchullains   3   6
Cavan G    3   4
C'lough   3   4
Lacken   3   4
Mullahoran   3   4
Drumalee   3   4
Lavey   3   3
Ballyhaise   3   2
Ballinagh   3   2
Castlerahan   2   2
Gowna   3   2
Denn   2   1
Belturbet   2   0
Killygarry   2   0
      
Div 2      
   PL   Pts
Killeshandra   3   6
Ramor Utd   2   4
Redhills   3   4
Killinkere   3   3
Knockbride   2   3
Cavan G   2   2
Cootehill   2   2
Bailieboro   3   2
Ballymac   3   2
Drumgoon   2   2
Drung   1   1
Kingscourt   2   1
Drumlane   2   0
Shercock   2   0
      
Div 3      
   PL   Pts
Corlough   3   6
Kildallan   3   6
Munitir Con   2   3
Swanlinbar   3   3
B'bridge   2   2
Arva   2   2
C'lough   2   2
Laragh Utd   2   2
Kill   1   2
Templeport   1   1
Shannon G   3   1
M'nugent   3   1
Maghera   2   1
Cornafean   3   0
      
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Hollow Man on March 31, 2008, 01:11:10 PM
QuoteYou can virtually pick the team for the championship now anyway

1.Miller
2.M Hannon
3.Podge
4.Brides/Fannin
5.McCutcheon
6.Forde/Flanagan
7.Sheridan
8.McCabe
9.One from Galligan,Cunningham,Mulvey(heard rumours he was off the panel) or Gaffney
10.Martin Reily
11.Lyng/Flanagan
12.McKeever
13.Eddie/Jason
14.Jelly
15.Pierson


Yeah you're right BH Man, the team is more or less picked. Just any 15 out of that 22 you named there... ::)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on March 31, 2008, 01:31:09 PM
Quote from: Hollow Man on March 31, 2008, 01:11:10 PM
QuoteYou can virtually pick the team for the championship now anyway

1.Miller
2.M Hannon
3.Podge
4.Brides/Fannin
5.McCutcheon
6.Forde/Flanagan
7.Sheridan
8.McCabe
9.One from Galligan,Cunningham,Mulvey(heard rumours he was off the panel) or Gaffney
10.Martin Reily
11.Lyng/Flanagan
12.McKeever
13.Eddie/Jason
14.Jelly
15.Pierson


Yeah you're right BH Man, the team is more or less picked. Just any 15 out of that 22 you named there... ::)

thats me told so  :D  :D  :D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on March 31, 2008, 01:32:20 PM
AsShotstopper said Lavey beat us 0-14 to 1-09, the less said about it the better  ::)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on March 31, 2008, 03:10:51 PM
Well what can ya say,we finally seem to have got a bit of luck.I only seen the 2nd half from a bar in Liverpool,didnt even kno Setanta were showing it.From what I seen we had nearly all the ball,the backs seem to do well altho Podge was caught for pace at times.McCabe looked good for most of the 2nd half,didnt see Cunningham at all.I heard he did well enough in the 1st half but BH Man this comment of 'Didnt do anything wrong' kind of annoys me.Its Inter-County football and if he cant do something right then he shouldnt be there.I actually thought we went out of it at midfield for the last 10 minutes and of course Keoghan did nothing except bring on Mulvey with time-up.
Flanagans work-rate was exceptional,I thought Lyng did well when introduced,Him and Jelly always link very well.
What else can be said about Jelly-All the people calling for him to be barred from the county team this year can fairly eat their words,including some people on this board.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: shotstopper1 on March 31, 2008, 03:43:06 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on March 28, 2008, 04:11:51 PM
im abit suprised Darren Rabbite isnt in the reckoning as hes very fit looking.

Heard Rabbite has quit the county scene for the year,due mainly to his studies.It's a pity, but as far as I could see he was listed on the panel from January but never appeared in any game be it McKenna cup,league or even a challenge.

Johnston came on for the Gaels yesterday (scored 0-1) with his ankle bandaged,hopefully just a precautionary measure.BTW good win for Homers guys.
What's with Lyng not playing with the gaels but playing with the county?

BHM heard a dispute over the taking of a last minute free which would've drawn the game fecked ye up yesterday.The lad who was taking and scoring the frees wasn't let take this one,it was duly put wide and Lavey proceeded up the field to score the insurance point.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on March 31, 2008, 06:38:36 PM

What else can be said about Jelly-All the people calling for him to be barred from the county team this year can fairly eat their words,including some people on this board.
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Yeah he's no longer an unreliable member of our panel. He couldn't possibly quit again come our possible exit from the Ulster Championship at the first hurdle!! You should have hit backspace the minute you typed that. Johnston is a very good player in a very good run of form but if he quit my team with minimal notice he wouldn't be lining out again anytime soon.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on March 31, 2008, 08:52:59 PM
Quote from: Lawrence of Knockbride on March 31, 2008, 06:38:36 PM

What else can be said about Jelly-All the people calling for him to be barred from the county team this year can fairly eat their words,including some people on this board.



Yeah he's no longer an unreliable member of our panel. He couldn't possibly quit again come our possible exit from the Ulster Championship at the first hurdle!! You should have hit backspace the minute you typed that. Johnston is a very good player in a very good run of form but if he quit my team with minimal notice he wouldn't be lining out again anytime soon.
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It was a good win for Cavan on Saturday. Johnstone had an excellent game but he'll need a few more to excuse his behaviour last year. I agree with what Lawrence is saying above as there is still a question mark over his dedication and also what his includion in the panel does to team morale elsewhere - happily there seems to be no backlash from players on that front. It may sound strange to say but what most impressed me about Johnstone was that he eliminated his "greedy" side (i.e. shooting from any angle instead of a simple pass to a better placed team mate) and balanced perfectly the decision making of when to shoot and when to pass. He does owe a great deal to the ball into him from players like McCabe and Lyng, he had nothing to do to win most balls cos they were so accurately placed. As for Keoghan. Part of me want to think that a corner has been turned and the confidence is up and Keoghan is maybe doing a bit better than we thought but then some of his subs were crazy (unless there were injuries that I don't know about.). Pierson was doing ok I thought and was capable of scoring, McCutcheon wasn't too bad and took of. Replaced McCutcheon 10 mins before half time with Waters and then subbed him at half time! If Cork had snuck the game I know what we'd be talking about.

We still have a problem in the middle and I think Cork won 70% from kickout in that area. We have our Half back line to  thank for a lot of turnovers and going forward we were good and used the ball efficiently. Amazingly we have a chance to stay up. W'Meath next have a few key players and if we can neutralise them we could win. Roscommon seem to be in total dissarray and we should have a chance of beating them. It is hard to know if that would be enough given that our score difference is -15. I think our best chance is to catch Cork who have Monaghan at home (Mushroom men to win) and then Armagh away. If we draw level with them we will at least get a play-off as score difference will not apply.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on March 31, 2008, 09:47:09 PM
I agree with what Lawrence is saying above as there is still a question mark over his dedication and also what his includion in the panel does to team morale elsewhere.

I wasnt on the Board for any of the Chicago 3 episode(I was ironically in America playin Ball myself) and I certainly dont wanna be dragging it back up again but I cant really understand how Myles and Laurence yas can question Johnstons dedication to Cavan.Ok fair enough he went to Chicago to get away for a few months and view some of the world but I know Sean quite well and I know that if every other Cavan player trained and looked after himself as well as Jelly then we would be competing with the big boys in Ulster.Do Cavan supporters expect our county footballers to stay round Cavan until they're 30 something and never venture out until they retire??He was pissed off with the decision of Keoghan to drop him and he took the chance to head Stateside and earn a few pound.I did the same last summer,I came home on the Thursday before our 1st round Championship match and started,Are you saying that I shouldnt b allowed play with my club this year???
There was never a problem with team morale in Tyrone after McGuigan and Hughes came back from Austrailia was there?
The big mistake made was Keoghan sayin they would never play under him again and then going back on his word which made him look like a bigger Idiot.
At least Jelly probably realised he owed the supporters an apology and he his paying us back in the best possible way.Top Scorer in the Naational League so far is a good start I reckon.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on April 01, 2008, 08:16:06 AM
The win is good for the team to build on but that was a poor cork team.   
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on April 01, 2008, 09:21:37 AM
Quote from: boojangles on March 31, 2008, 09:47:09 PM
I agree with what Lawrence is saying above as there is still a question mark over his dedication and also what his includion in the panel does to team morale elsewhere.

I wasnt on the Board for any of the Chicago 3 episode(I was ironically in America playin Ball myself) and I certainly dont wanna be dragging it back up again but I cant really understand how Myles and Laurence yas can question Johnstons dedication to Cavan.Ok fair enough he went to Chicago to get away for a few months and view some of the world but I know Sean quite well and I know that if every other Cavan player trained and looked after himself as well as Jelly then we would be competing with the big boys in Ulster.Do Cavan supporters expect our county footballers to stay round Cavan until they're 30 something and never venture out until they retire??He was pissed off with the decision of Keoghan to drop him and he took the chance to head Stateside and earn a few pound.I did the same last summer,I came home on the Thursday before our 1st round Championship match and started,Are you saying that I shouldnt b allowed play with my club this year???
There was never a problem with team morale in Tyrone after McGuigan and Hughes came back from Austrailia was there?
The big mistake made was Keoghan sayin they would never play under him again and then going back on his word which made him look like a bigger Idiot.
At least Jelly probably realised he owed the supporters an apology and he his paying us back in the best possible way.Top Scorer in the Naational League so far is a good start I reckon.

I don't expect our players to stay around until they are 30 something and never see the world. What I do expect is that when a player makes a commitment to management, fellow players and his county that he see it through to the end. Johnstone took someone else place on the panel. Got the huff cos he was dropped and instead of standing up like a man and showing Keoghan he was the player he is, he pissed off to the US and let his teammates down. We were still in the championship at that time. Tyrones players did not leave mid championship, the opted out at the start of the year. If they had done what Johnstone did Mickey Harte would not have stood for it (look how he handled the students playing for colleges issue last year). As to your own case, if you went to the US and came back and played the next w'end in the championship I'd say you have a manger who is of the same calibre as Keoghan. You just  took the place of a team mate who probably trained hard for a couple of months while you were away having the craic. What did that decision do his and the rest of the teams morale? If I were your manager you would have had to prove yourself at training for a couple of weeks before I'd consider giving you a run out as a sub. Maybe my standards of discipline are just higher than everyones elses?

All that said, I'd like to think  that Johnstone is sorry he did what he did and that this year he will make ammends on the field of play. He has certainly started of very well but now comes a new challenge as he will be a marked man, possibly double marked and will be on the end of all sorts of abuse on the field.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Mr. Pain on April 01, 2008, 10:32:59 AM
Mr. Pain is thinking of throwing in his lot with this website. The Hogan Stand has gone to fcuk and Mr. Pain has stated this under a thread someone made up about the Cavan jersey. It's debatable if it will be posted or not. This site it now superior. Mr. Pain gives it three thumbs up and a cool face. Rant over! 8)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on April 01, 2008, 10:42:43 AM
Quote from: Mr. Pain on April 01, 2008, 10:32:59 AM
Mr. Pain is thinking of throwing in his lot with this website. The Hogan Stand has gone to fcuk and Mr. Pain has stated this under a thread someone made up about the Cavan jersey. It's debatable if it will be posted or not. This site it now superior. Mr. Pain gives it three thumbs up and a cool face. Rant over! 8)

Hoganstand messageborad is total shite. I must have got banned or something a while ago cos no matter what I post it never gets up on it and then you look at what does get posted and you have to wonder is a 12 year old girl running the board.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Cavanfan on April 01, 2008, 10:57:19 AM
Mr. Pain's message got posted. Good win on Sat night by the lads! Johnston was class in the forward line. McCabe hit some lovely ball in as did Lyng when he came on. Eddie did some good hard slogging to win ball. And I thought moving Hannon earlier on was one of Mr. Keoghan's better tactical moves this year. How do ye think they will get on this weekend, they'll have a bit of confidence now. Yea hope Johnstons ankle is okay.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on April 01, 2008, 11:18:21 AM
Encouraging stuff on Saturday night, most of all was that we had the balls to hang on in a tight game.

Johnston was outstanding but I agree with the posters who say that he owes us this after last summer. A fine performance in a league game on wet night in March, vital and outstanding though it was, does not for me wipe out what was a very selfish and spoilt brat act last summer. But fair play to Seanie regardless, all will be forgiven if he keeps this up and doesn't sulk again if he happens to be dropped, which is highly unlikely anyway.

We went to Westmeath two years ago for a crucial league tie and on a miserable day in Mullingar, Keith Fannin parked as a free defender in front of the full-forward line and cut out any ball going in near Dolan. Westmeath were clueless without his scoring threat and Larry bagged some classy points near the end to secure the win. Unfortunately the Waterford debacle came afterwards, but hopefully we can get two wins in our last two games and see where the Gods take us after that. You'd never assume we've turned a corner as this is a Keogan team with many faults and Cork had way less training done than us, but fingers crossed, eh?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: footballmad on April 01, 2008, 12:20:57 PM
Quote from: cavanmaniac on April 01, 2008, 11:18:21 AM
Encouraging stuff on Saturday night, most of all was that we had the balls to hang on in a tight game.

Johnston was outstanding but I agree with the posters who say that he owes us this after last summer. A fine performance in a league game on wet night in March, vital and outstanding though it was, does not for me wipe out what was a very selfish and spoilt brat act last summer. But fair play to Seanie regardless, all will be forgiven if he keeps this up and doesn't sulk again if he happens to be dropped, which is highly unlikely anyway.



sorry to be the one to inform you but seanie owes you nothing
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on April 01, 2008, 12:31:38 PM
Quote from: footballmad on April 01, 2008, 12:20:57 PM
Quote from: cavanmaniac on April 01, 2008, 11:18:21 AM
Encouraging stuff on Saturday night, most of all was that we had the balls to hang on in a tight game.

Johnston was outstanding but I agree with the posters who say that he owes us this after last summer. A fine performance in a league game on wet night in March, vital and outstanding though it was, does not for me wipe out what was a very selfish and spoilt brat act last summer. But fair play to Seanie regardless, all will be forgiven if he keeps this up and doesn't sulk again if he happens to be dropped, which is highly unlikely anyway.



sorry to be the one to inform you but seanie owes you nothing

Really insightful post there.

Heres one for you all. If every Cavan player under Keoghan left the country after being dropped would we have much of a panel left? Damn right, he owes us something. We are the people who drive up and down the country watching Cavan and supporting Cavan. Seanie strikes me as someone who enjoys being cheered by the crowd. Football has made him a household name in Cavan and has given him an element of fame. He owes Cavan football quite a bit as do all county footballers. I don't know the lad so I have no bias for or against him. I am glad he is playing well. I hope he goes on to be known by his children and grandchildren as one of the best forwards Cavan ever produced, but what he did last year was wrong. I am leaving it there as I don't want to get involved in a negative exchange about the lad when we should just be congratulating him on his performance at the weekend.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: footballmad on April 01, 2008, 12:43:36 PM
agree with you there about not getting into it again, its well discussed at this stage but you still didnt get my point, my post may not have been that insightfull after all  ::) seanie dose not owe you anything or any cavan fan including myself anything. what dose he owe you? (rhetorical question)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on April 01, 2008, 12:55:41 PM
You're right footballmad. He owes me nothing, and I never suggested that he did either.

I was more thinking of the team mates he'd trained with all year, the manager (whatever you think of him) and coaching staff that had worked with him, built plans around, not to mention the string of people in his club who had no doubt voluntarily given of their free time and effort to mould his huge natural talent into the player he has become today. He's on a scholarship to DCU/gets GPA grants (not sure which) as well due to his involvement with Cavan, you might have forgotten that, and I'm sure his profile opens other doors for him also.

Have you ever heard of a thing called loyalty, or being a team player, not to mention not being a cry baby and spitting the dummy even if your cerebrally challenged manager decides to drop you?

I'd have had no problems with Seanie leaving had he signalled his intentions to do so early in the year like the more considerate players in Kerry and Tyrone did. To up sticks and leave in the middle of championship was very poor form.

But look, like myles rightly says, this shouldn't be a time for recriminations for past actions, it's done with now and everyone involved is moving on. The guy has just turned in one of the best individual performances I've ever seen in a Cavan shirt, on which basis he could soon be among the top five forwards in the country. He deserves our congratulations and admiration and perhaps now he has learned his lesson and can get on with the business of being a top class intercounty forward and our brightest hope in a dark and lean time.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on April 01, 2008, 01:41:11 PM
Fair play to all (almost) of ye. Not a black & white issue the Seanie one but the grey areas have been well highlighted (in grey) and open minds remain. That f**king hoganstand. 12 year olds is right. I was on it a couple of weeks ago and someone (possibly Donal Keoghan) posted what will surely be graffitied on walls for centuries to come - "Gowna for Sam" which was followed by "Da Gaels will hammer Yis".

Anyway, just a little update on Saturday's game and this time remarkably it's in defence of Keoghan. Both Pierson & Watters had injuries and are doubtful for Sunday. Hamstring & Groin injuries repsectively. McCutcheon on the other hand played midfield for Cootehill on Sunday so not so sure about that one.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: shotstopper1 on April 01, 2008, 01:57:29 PM
 
Quotewas more thinking of the team mates he'd trained with all year, the manager (whatever you think of him) and coaching staff that had worked with him, built plans around, not to mention the string of people in his club who had no doubt voluntarily given of their free time and effort to mould his huge natural talent into the player he has become today. He's on a scholarship to DCU/gets GPA grants (not sure which) as well due to his involvement with Cavan, you might have forgotten that, and I'm sure his profile opens other doors for him also.

1. If you were to build plans around a player,surely you'd start him in your biggest game of the year?

2. It's the persons dedication to the game what makes them the player they are.People can try to nuture talented footballers but if the lads haven't the dedication it will come to nought.I'd argue that it was Johnston's dedication to the game which got him involved with Cavan in the first place,and it was this dedication that has risen his profile and opened doors, as you say, for him.


QuoteWe are the people who drive up and down the country watching Cavan and supporting Cavan.

As has being said Cavan supporters are a very fickle bunch.Some of the lads travel more in a week to training and matches than most Cavan people do in a year.

The only person Seanie Johnston owes is himself.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on April 01, 2008, 02:22:10 PM
Interesting logic shotstopper.

So any time a manager makes a bum selection, a player can feel entitled to spit the dummy and bugger off with an important championship game around the corner? It's a good thing for Kerry that Maurice Fitzgerald had a more corinthian and less selfish attitude (Seanie owes nobody but himself etc. etc.) back when Paudie was keeping him benched yet he still kept coming on and doing the business like a real sportsman, as evidenced when he sliced over that free against Dublin in Thurles. He'd have done well to kick it if he was in Chicago.

"It's the persons dedication to the game what makes them the player they are. People can try to nuture talented footballers but if the lads haven't the dedication it will come to nought."

Precisely. It's a two-way street between coaches and player - all the talent in the world can equally be squandered without proper mentoring and good influence from an early age - but Seanie took the one-way option when he went to the States with a vital match around the corner. I don't deny he's been dedicated and from people who know him personally, I hear the lad absolutely lives for football, but he let alot of people down, mostly himself, when he went. Like I said, I hope he now knows that what he did was wrong and he can concentrate on developing into an even better player than he is, and perhaps if he wants to go the USA in future summers, he'll make his arrangements in winter and then head off in July with everyone's blessing, mine included.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on April 01, 2008, 02:31:11 PM
This has being flogged to death at this stage.  I think it is good that he is back and playing well but cavan are no better off with him than they were without him.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on April 01, 2008, 02:43:06 PM
Anyway, just a little update on Saturday's game and this time remarkably it's in defence of Keoghan. Both Pierson & Watters had injuries and are doubtful for Sunday. Hamstring & Groin injuries repsectively. McCutcheon on the other hand played midfield for Cootehill on Sunday so not so sure about that one.


Naa John wasn't injured, he was just taken off... another one of Keogan's infamous substitutions
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on April 01, 2008, 02:46:29 PM
Quote from: Celt_Man on April 01, 2008, 02:43:06 PM
Anyway, just a little update on Saturday's game and this time remarkably it's in defence of Keoghan. Both Pierson & Watters had injuries and are doubtful for Sunday. Hamstring & Groin injuries repsectively. McCutcheon on the other hand played midfield for Cootehill on Sunday so not so sure about that one.


Naa John wasn't injured, he was just taken off... another one of Keogan's infamous substitutions

Great win again for the Leaguers though ;D. 3 out of 3 is a great start in Div 2.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on April 01, 2008, 02:59:00 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on April 01, 2008, 02:46:29 PM
Quote from: Celt_Man on April 01, 2008, 02:43:06 PM
Anyway, just a little update on Saturday's game and this time remarkably it's in defence of Keoghan. Both Pierson & Watters had injuries and are doubtful for Sunday. Hamstring & Groin injuries repsectively. McCutcheon on the other hand played midfield for Cootehill on Sunday so not so sure about that one.


Naa John wasn't injured, he was just taken off... another one of Keogan's infamous substitutions

Great win again for the Leaguers though ;D. 3 out of 3 is a great start in Div 2.

Ahh yea, a few of our boys  let us the night before but the best team won.... I saw you play a couple of times last year and knew you would cause problems in Division 2 and the champo... definitely not a case of a auld junior team just happy to be in Intermediate. Ye have a very good team but tell one of your mid fielders to close his gob in future... he is taking away from his footballing abilities with that kind of carry on which I would normally associate with the Dubs....
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on April 01, 2008, 03:39:12 PM
Quote from: shotstopper1 on March 31, 2008, 03:43:06 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on March 28, 2008, 04:11:51 PM
im abit suprised Darren Rabbite isnt in the reckoning as hes very fit looking.

Heard Rabbite has quit the county scene for the year,due mainly to his studies.It's a pity, but as far as I could see he was listed on the panel from January but never appeared in any game be it McKenna cup,league or even a challenge.

Johnston came on for the Gaels yesterday (scored 0-1) with his ankle bandaged,hopefully just a precautionary measure.BTW good win for Homers guys.
What's with Lyng not playing with the gaels but playing with the county?

BHM heard a dispute over the taking of a last minute free which would've drawn the game fecked ye up yesterday.The lad who was taking and scoring the frees wasn't let take this one,it was duly put wide and Lavey proceeded up the field to score the insurance point.

wouldnt say it was a dispute, but both Ray Cullivan and Jarlath Moran wanted to take the free which was about 47 metres out,Ray took it and sent it wide,we probably should have worked it in.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on April 01, 2008, 04:07:31 PM
Darren Rabitte quit the county panel about 3 weeks ago.A bit of a shame considering we arent brimming with good Full-Backs.Podge would be far better at CHB.Rabitte should have been given more of a try,I dunno why he wasnt,he has plenty of experience and has played at championship level there before.He is fast and strong and is over 6ft.BH Man I heard he hit Slowey the mother of all raps last week and Fergal had to come off.And Slowey wouldnt b the weakest either.He must do about 500 sit-ups a night judging by the last time I seen him togged.Six pack isnt the word!!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on April 01, 2008, 04:38:15 PM
Ballinagh 0-11 Cavan Gaels 0-08

An excellent 2nd half defensive performance from the Ballinagh boys albeit against an almost second-string Gaels side proved enough to lift the yellow submarine of the ocean floor. The depleted Gaels were without the services of Enda King, Darren Rabitte, Anthony Forde, Nicolas Walsh and Micheal Lyng (not playing with them this year) while man of the moment Seanie Johnston started on the bench although having said that, Ballinagh were also understrength with Gaynor still on suspension while David Finnegan, Cian McDermott, Killian McBride, Anthony Duffy and Damien McInerney all missed out through injury or illness.

A tight game throughout, the first half played out a rather dull affair with both sides exchanging frees and saw Ballinagh taking a one point advantage in at the break. The second half was played at a much higher tempo although the difference between the two sides remained slight. Ballinagh began to take control of the game as the half progressed but just failed to stretch their lead accordingly the Gaels sideline responded by introducing Johnston at full-forward. Despite the move it was Ballinagh who continued dominate with further frees from Colin Gumley and Declan Beard and another from play from Niall O'Reilly. The Gaels sought desperately for a goal but the full back line were always on top with the last score of the game coming from a Seanie Johnston free.

Excellent performances from full-back duo Patrick Carolan and Derek Hatchett who did an extremely good job in marshaling players of the caliber of Johnston and Martin Dunne coming out with every ball that came their way.

A vital 2 points for the Saffrons as 3 home defeats would have left things very grim. The Gaels won't be too despondent considering the class of players they had to do without.

Up next, old rivalries are renewed with what always promises to be an interesting encounter with Lavey. I know it might be painful BHM but I'd be interested to hear a little more from you about them.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on April 01, 2008, 04:39:41 PM
Quote from: boojangles on April 01, 2008, 04:07:31 PM
Darren Rabitte quit the county panel about 3 weeks ago.A bit of a shame considering we arent brimming with good Full-Backs.Podge would be far better at CHB.Rabitte should have been given more of a try,I dunno why he wasnt,he has plenty of experience and has played at championship level there before.He is fast and strong and is over 6ft.BH Man I heard he hit Slowey the mother of all raps last week and Fergal had to come off.And Slowey wouldnt b the weakest either.He must do about 500 sit-ups a night judging by the last time I seen him togged.Six pack isnt the word!!

the hit on Fergal wasnt legal though to be honest mate,Rabbitte went for the big shoulder but caught him high and frontal aswell,Accidental of course,Rabbitte isnt like that.He also took a few big hits against Lavey,and had to go off injured,this time a leg injury,He takes some abuse in games.

Fergal is unbelieveabely fit,I have no idea what his training regime is like outside the normal club training,It must be outrageous though. His fitness levels dont drop all year round either.
Quite Unbelieveable to be honest.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on April 01, 2008, 04:41:23 PM
Quote from: Homer on April 01, 2008, 04:38:15 PM
Ballinagh 0-11 Cavan Gaels 0-08

An excellent 2nd half defensive performance from the Ballinagh boys albeit against an almost second-string Gaels side proved enough to lift the yellow submarine of the ocean floor. The depleted Gaels were without the services of Enda King, Darren Rabitte, Anthony Forde, Nicolas Walsh and Micheal Lyng (not playing with them this year) while man of the moment Seanie Johnston started on the bench although having said that, Ballinagh were also understrength with Gaynor still on suspension while David Finnegan, Cian McDermott, Killian McBride, Anthony Duffy and Damien McInerney all missed out through injury or illness.

Whats that about?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on April 01, 2008, 04:43:54 PM
He's looking for a club in Dublin to play with apparently. I also heard a rumour that he dropped off the county panel after the game on Saturday night but I have heard nothing since so I'm not giving it any mileage.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on April 01, 2008, 04:46:55 PM
Quote from: Homer on April 01, 2008, 04:38:15 PM
Ballinagh 0-11 Cavan Gaels 0-08

An excellent 2nd half defensive performance from the Ballinagh boys albeit against an almost second-string Gaels side proved enough to lift the yellow submarine of the ocean floor. The depleted Gaels were without the services of Enda King, Darren Rabitte, Anthony Forde, Nicolas Walsh and Micheal Lyng (not playing with them this year) while man of the moment Seanie Johnston started on the bench although having said that, Ballinagh were also understrength with Gaynor still on suspension while David Finnegan, Cian McDermott, Killian McBride, Anthony Duffy and Damien McInerney all missed out through injury or illness.

A tight game throughout, the first half played out a rather dull affair with both sides exchanging frees and saw Ballinagh taking a one point advantage in at the break. The second half was played at a much higher tempo although the difference between the two sides remained slight. Ballinagh began to take control of the game as the half progressed but just failed to stretch their lead accordingly the Gaels sideline responded by introducing Johnston at full-forward. Despite the move it was Ballinagh who continued dominate with further frees from Colin Gumley and Declan Beard and another from play from Niall O'Reilly. The Gaels sought desperately for a goal but the full back line were always on top with the last score of the game coming from a Seanie Johnston free.

Excellent performances from full-back duo Patrick Carolan and Derek Hatchett who did an extremely good job in marshaling players of the caliber of Johnston and Martin Dunne coming out with every ball that came their way.

A vital 2 points for the Saffrons as 3 home defeats would have left things very grim. The Gaels won't be too despondent considering the class of players they had to do without.

Up next, old rivalries are renewed with what always promises to be an interesting encounter with Lavey. I know it might be painful BHM but I'd be interested to hear a little more from you about them.

Lavey are no great shakes Homer, we just had one of our all too common, complete Disaster games,where we were absolutely atrocious after playing well against Gowna and the Gaels,  :-\
Sean Maguire was injured, Joey Jordan wasnt playing either
David Smith and Stephen Jordan were midfield, Smith was very good,
Kevin Brady also good at wing forward,
Finbar Jordan the other half forward.
Declan Murphy at full forward was a danger,but well contained by Sean McCormack until he switched out.
Number 11, i dont know his name(i wouldnt know too much about Lavey,first time we have played them in a long time) was very good,
They run in packs through the centre,Half backs push forward. I dont think you will have too much problems with them.
I was shocked by your win against the Gaels, i was expecting Ballinagh to not take the league at all seriously then make a serious run at the senior champ.

Michael Lyng not playing with the Gaels!!! wonder why that is?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on April 01, 2008, 04:51:13 PM
Boojangles

PJ Carroll seems to have had quite a good start with you lads,id say training is fairly tough with him????
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on April 01, 2008, 05:27:18 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on April 01, 2008, 04:46:55 PM
Lavey are no great shakes Homer, we just had one of our all too common, complete Disaster games,where we were absolutely atrocious after playing well against Gowna and the Gaels,  :-\
Sean Maguire was injured, Joey Jordan wasnt playing either
David Smith and Stephen Jordan were midfield, Smith was very good,
Kevin Brady also good at wing forward,
Finbar Jordan the other half forward.
Declan Murphy at full forward was a danger,but well contained by Sean McCormack until he switched out.
Number 11, i dont know his name(i wouldnt know too much about Lavey,first time we have played them in a long time) was very good,
They run in packs through the centre,Half backs push forward. I dont think you will have too much problems with them.

Cheers for that HaiseMan.

I think Sean Maguire is actually on suspension after being sent off against Drumalee in the first round. Ballinagh's meeting with Lavey is down for next Saturday night and I think that leaves Maguire out of contention as his ban isn't up til the Sunday.

Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on April 01, 2008, 04:46:55 PM
I was shocked by your win against the Gaels, i was expecting Ballinagh to not take the league at all seriously then make a serious run at the senior champ.

Nah you're right, there is a fairly relaxed approach to the league campaign so far, after the long year the lads had last year there's no point going hell for leather during the league and then finding ourselves crippled by burnout come championship. I think the win on Sunday was born out of both necessity and just that fact that it was the Gaels.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on April 01, 2008, 10:02:06 PM
AND NOW FOR SOMETHING COMPLETELY DIFFERENT...................this isn't Cavan-related but I just don't feel comfortable on the more general threads. Anyway, a story on hoganstand:

In an amazing development, Dublin have snatched three prominent AL players from under the noses of stunned Aussie officials.

The trio - who play for Sydney Swans, Carlton and Essendon - will link up with Paul Caffrey's squad ahead of the Leinster championship.

With anger in Ireland over the number of young players heading Down Under, it is a major coup for the Sky Blues to convince professionals from the antipodean game to move in the opposite direction.

The players have been promised key coaching roles in the capital and will also help prepare Ireland teams for future International Rules series.

In a related story, Dublin chiefs will tonight draw up plans to have an oval ball introduced on an experimental basis in next year's O'Byrne Cup.


What the hell is this last bit about? An oval ball? Fuckin Dubs and fuckin GAA. Can we not leave things alone for any length of time? I reckon we give this topic a day and then we'll get in the zone for Mullingar
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on April 02, 2008, 08:08:33 AM
Lawerence  ;D ;D ;D

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Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on April 02, 2008, 08:48:24 AM
A shite. April Fool. I got to about 10:30 p.m. without a sniff. Like I said, fuckin dubs..............
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: CC1 on April 02, 2008, 08:49:39 AM
I hope the real Larry is as aware as you were there against us on Saturday afternoon... ;)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Maximus Marillius on April 02, 2008, 09:05:13 AM
Larry....its hard to believe but I am sure you are the only one on this board who fell for that one...as cavn4ever says


Quote from: cavan4ever on April 02, 2008, 08:08:33 AM
Lawerence  ;D ;D ;D

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Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Cavanfan on April 02, 2008, 09:44:47 AM
Good April Fool it got someone on Hoganstand aswell :D I see there were a few more yesterday according to the papers today-not sport related.

So lads what do ya think our chances are on Sunday? If we play with confidence I think we can win. Mite be tough though being an away game.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on April 02, 2008, 10:27:19 AM
I think we have a chance but what worries me is that tactics and ability to react to tactical changes on the other side will play a very big part. We will (or should be) trying to eliminate the threat of Glennon. I think Hannon will have to take him as Podge wasn't great on Sunday. We may look at a sweeper system to mop up in front of him too. But the 1st key to success is winning midfield. We need a really big game from the lads in there to win primary possesion. From what I am hearing W'Meaths midfield has been doing quite well  this year so it will be a challenge. Now the next thing we need to do is counter whatever W'Meath have in mind for Seanie Johnstone, who will no doubt get some close attention. Maybe they will play a sweeper too. This is what worries me because Keoghan has shown very little tactical know how in the league so far. I am hoping Johnstone can divert attention one way and that Pierson is fit and will fire on all cylinders. A big game from Pierson is the 2nd key I think. As for a prediction, well I think there will be no more than 1 or 2 points in it but not sure who will win.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Cavanfan on April 02, 2008, 10:43:02 AM
Is Pierson injured? I heard that's why he was taken off on Saturday. Yea Johnston is going to be a marked man for the rest of the year but against Cork in the 2nd half he had two on him and when he got quality ball he still did good. It's true we can't be relying on Johnston all year but I don't think we have too. If McCabe can pull it off at midfield I think that would be a huge bonus and if we get good games from Flanagan, McKeever,Lyng, Reilly and Pierson in the forward line I think we could win on Sunday. Hannon is having as good a year in the back line as Johnston is in the forward line so we have to hope he stays in form and injury free. Sherdian is also coming into his own in the back line and we know Podge is a good player I think a bit of fitness and he'll be there. I didn't understand why Fannin was dropped last week and he isn't injured as he played for the club on Sunday. I think a major problem is the constant changing of the team. Week in week out there has been at least four changes. I'm not saying that others don't deserve a chance but I do think it takes a game or two to link well. We seen on Saturday how Jelly and Lyng linked well and McCabe and Pierson did too and I think this id due to the fact that they are used to how each other play.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Hollow Man on April 02, 2008, 03:47:02 PM
What has happened to Sean Brady? On the Cavan senior panel seven years and still not a regular starter.

Is he fit?

He would be a potential midfielder if he got a run of fitness.

Just thinking abck to that minor team he was on - the likes of McKeever, Johnston, Paddy Brady (Gowna), Gaynor, Sean Brady - those five were absolutely brilliant minors, you'd think they would have carried a team on their own.

The likes of Shane Cole, Damien McInerny, Colin Gumley, Paddy Galligan and Padraig Cahill were on it as well among others. Best Cavan minor side I've seen.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on April 02, 2008, 04:23:40 PM
Perdictions for this wkend

Division 1 
Castlerahan v Mullahoran - Mullahorn, C'rahan will miss their county boys more
Gowna v Belturbet - Belturbet same reason as above
Cavan Gaels v Cuchulainns Gaels will up their game after defeat last week, Gaels by 3
Lavey v Ballinagh think Lavey will sneak this one
Killygarry v Ballyhaise draw
Crosserlough v Denn C'lough tough to beat at home, win by 2/3 pts
Lacken v Drumalee lDrumalee to sneak this against a lacken without galligan and finbarr

Division 2
Drumlane v Drumgoon - Goonies by a few pts
Killeshandra v Drung - Killeshandra to continue impressive start
Bailieboro v Cootehill -  Celtics by 2
Killinkere v Redhills -  Redhills to keep good start going
Shercock v Knockbride - Larry to beat shercock on his own
Ramor Utd. v Ballymachugh - Ramor should be able to take B'hugh with at least 5 pts to spare
Cavan Gaels v Kingscourt Stars Gaels without many of their senior players, Stars by 4

Division 3 - Round 4:
Cornafean v Kildallan - Cornafean to turn around earlier brutal performances with narrow win
Shannon Gaels v Arva - another close one... go for a draw???
Mountnugent v Swanlinbar - Swad without J. Cunningham could struggle but still should win by a poitn or two
Kill v Corlough - Kill win by few points
Laragh v Munterconnacht - tough one to call, maybe laragh might sneak it
Crosserlough v Maghera - maghera to sneak this as it will be second C'lough game that day
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on April 02, 2008, 06:02:29 PM
Quote from: Hollow Man on April 02, 2008, 03:47:02 PM
Best Cavan minor side I've seen.

It was pretty good alright. Is that the one beat Down the first day out in Casement and came a cropper later on? I think Sean Brady might have got a goal that day, but he's been always injured since.

I'd have to say, I personally rated Keogan's minor team a few years later as a better prospect. But sure it never matters how good they are, they always choke!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: gortnaleck on April 03, 2008, 02:10:12 AM
Cavan's teams of all grades have not had an above average freetaker since Ronan Carolan and I think that is why we suffer so many close losses rather than choking.I hope Seanie is the next good one but I'm old school and would rather have someone kick off the ground
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on April 03, 2008, 09:40:23 AM
Quote from: gortnaleck on April 03, 2008, 02:10:12 AM
Cavan's teams of all grades have not had an above average freetaker since Ronan Carolan and I think that is why we suffer so many close losses rather than choking.I hope Seanie is the next good one but I'm old school and would rather have someone kick off the ground

There is no doubt that kicking of the ground is the most accurate way to take a free. I don't think Johnstone is really an answer from frees as I think his range is really only 30 - 35m. Outside that you'll find McCabe will start to take them. When Carolan was on song anything within 50m was scorable. It suprises me that teams in football don't try and work on developing place kickers. I mean a few years ago Lyng was knocking them over from 45m (Ulster semi vrs Tyrone) and now he doesn't take a free anymore. In fact, half our team have been free takers in the last few years. Mad Eddie, Johnstone, Pierson, McKeever, McCabe, Lyng and  Finbarr Reilly have all had a go that I remember.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4sam on April 03, 2008, 11:17:00 AM
yea lyng was an excellent free taker, in fact he was equally adapt with both feet from the placed baal, however since his groin injuries, he is not allowed to take frees.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on April 03, 2008, 11:17:29 AM
Quote from: Thastheball on April 03, 2008, 10:17:58 AM
Finbar hit a few beauties against waterford a few years ago >:( resulting in a defeat, before he did a runner in the middle of ulster championship as vice captain. Still a disgrace thats he is back in the panel

Good result at the weekend, gives us some hope thaty we have some decent players who need help with getting direction. But it is so typical of us, one big performance followed by a pile of tripe performances.

He had a bad day at the office that day but any player can have a bad day. I don't think it was fair to make Finbarr a scapegoat for that defeat (which is what the manage did). 14 other players that day were pretty brutal too. I'm not going to drag up the Finbarr Reilly argument here again, we just finished the Seanie Johnstone argument!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on April 03, 2008, 01:10:53 PM
Quote from: boojangles on April 03, 2008, 12:33:55 PM

I was part of that panel and remember really believing we were going places that year,but Im sure every Cavan Minor can say the same about every team since.
:( :( :(

I think that is a problem with our minor teams they believe all the hype and this then affects performance on the field.  >:(
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on April 03, 2008, 01:41:45 PM
Talking of Finbar (which we're not) what's going on with him. He started against Down, disappeared, came on against Meath and never touched the ball and then no sign last week? Also Myles, Mickey Brennan was dropped after the Waterford game. He was outstanding against Westmeath in the previous game at midfield but was moved to wing-back against the mighty deise and was poor. He never as much as got a substitute appearance in the remaining two/three (?) championship games. Luckily Drumalee had more sense than Lacken to start whinging and putting forward a vote of no confidence. Sorry, it's closed now.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on April 03, 2008, 02:02:53 PM
Quote from: boojangles on April 03, 2008, 12:33:55 PM
It was pretty good alright. Is that the one beat Down the first day out in Casement and came a cropper later on? I think Sean Brady might have got a goal that day, but he's been always injured since.

That Minor team was 2002 that You're referring to.We bet Donegal in Breifne in 1st round with McKeever outstanding at Full-Forward.He gave Karl Lacey(who has since won an All-Star) the run around that day.Our Seniors lost that day(after losing the League Final to Tyrone) despite Pierson kicking 10 points!!We then beat Down in Ballybay by 5 points with a great team performance,Paddy Galligan saving a penalty.We then played Derry in Brewster Park on a miserable wet day,Paddy Brady had to go off at half-time and we went down by 4 points.Derry after a big scare in the Ulster Final went on to hammer all before them(including Meath in the final) before lifting the Tom Markham cup.Players from that panel who have played Senior county include Padraig Cahill,Dermot McGlade,Anthony Gaynor,Paddy Brady,Sean Brady,Sean Johnston,MarkMcKeever,Niall Madden,Peter Monaghan.
Tony Brady was Manager with Fintan Cahill,Niall Brady and Jimmy Carroll selectors.Niall Lynch and PJ Lee also helped with the training.
I was part of that panel and remember really believing we were going places that year,but Im sure every Cavan Minor can say the same about every team since.
:( :( :(

Remember it like it was only yesterday.
The Donegal game as you say with McKeever unstoppable, and a little known Anthony Gaynor putting in a tremendous performance at CHB
The evening game against Down in Ballybay again you've mentioned Galligan's penalty save, Paddy Brady sealing the match with a 60 yard free-kick
The trip all the way up to Ballybofey just for it to be called off a half hour before the throw in
The re-fixed game against Derry when the lads just kicked themselves out of it, Paddy Brady leaves the field at half time injured, played crap and still could have beat them
The sick feeling watching Derry coast there way to a All-Ireland title.

Jesus I'm depressed all over again.  :-\

That was an excellent team alright. It's hard to believe that at that time people were divided over who was better Seanie Johnston or Colin Gumley?

Quote from: Lawrence of Knockbride on April 03, 2008, 01:41:45 PM
Talking of Finbar (which we're not) what's going on with him. He started against Down, disappeared, came on against Meath and never touched the ball and then no sign last week?

Finbar had a re-occurrence of a old shoulder injury around that time and was out for a while with it, not sure why he has never found himself in contention since.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: North Longford on April 03, 2008, 03:01:53 PM
Jesus lads I remeber that Cavan minor team. I was absolutely certain that they and Longford would end up meeting in the All Ireland series. (Longford won Leinster that year). I remember Cavan/Longford played a challenge just before the championship and Longford won by a couple of points but I would have had no great confidence in them doing it again. Moyne CC had a team that won the All Ireland colleges B at an absolute canter. They were probably as good as any team in the A championship and they had 5 of the Longford minors and 5 of the Cavan minors playing for them. It was an exceptional team and an awful pity they hadn't been in the A. Derry beat Longford easily in the All Ireland semi but it was a day that Longford just didn't play. It was their 8th game as they had to take part in a preliminary group for the weaker Leinster counties. It looked like it was just a game too many. They had already beaten Meath in the Leinster Final but Meath ended up getting further than them! There are 5 of the Longford lads now on the senior panel.  The star of the minor team didn't even make the U21 team 3 years later. Its strange how different guys come through and some don't. How many of that Cavan team made it through
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on April 03, 2008, 03:31:58 PM
fill in the blanks for me lads about that minor team or correct me if im wrong, the team was something like this

Was Sean Brady midfield or Centre Forward?
1.Paddy Galligan
2.Damien McInerney
3.
4.Padraig Cahill
5.Dermot McGlade
6.Anthony Gaynor
7.Michael Cooke
8.Paddy Brady
9.
10.
11.
12.
13.Colm Gumley
14.Mark McKeever
15.Seanie Johnston

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Hollow Man on April 03, 2008, 04:10:52 PM
Sean Brady was in there somewhere, as was Shane Cole I think?

What a class team.

There was an unreal minor team a year or tow befopre that as well with Walsh, Daryl McConnell, Sean Maguire etc
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Maximus Marillius on April 03, 2008, 04:22:40 PM
Ah lads I'm enjoy the last lot of posts....talking about those great minor teams that Cavan have produced over the past 8 years. Outstanding conveyer belt of successful teams :D :D :D :D :D Ah let me guess it was the managers fault....nah...it was the ref.....nah...it was the pitch....the changing rooms.....nah
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: shotstopper1 on April 03, 2008, 04:24:11 PM
Ronan Fitzsimons @ FB,S Brady @ CF,  N Madden,S. Cole, Ciaran Fitz were the half forward line (I think) also McCabe from MConnaught was also on the panel
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on April 03, 2008, 04:29:32 PM
Quote from: Maximus Marillius on April 03, 2008, 04:22:40 PM
Ah lads I'm enjoy the last lot of posts....talking about those great minor teams that Cavan have produced over the past 8 years. Outstanding conveyer belt of successful teams :D :D :D :D :D Ah let me guess it was the managers fault....nah...it was the ref.....nah...it was the pitch....the changing rooms.....nah

Its almost as funny as Derrys great senior team of the 90's (great by Derry standards anyhow) only managing 1 all ireland when they should have achieved much more.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on April 03, 2008, 04:37:46 PM
thanks SStopper, good team alright.

Lads Ignore the Attention seeking Derry wan and maybe he will go away  ;D  :-*
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on April 03, 2008, 08:05:43 PM
fill in the blanks for me lads about that minor team or correct me if im wrong, the team was something like this

Was Sean Brady midfield or Centre Forward?
1.Paddy Galligan
2.Damien McInerney
3.
4.Padraig Cahill
5.Dermot McGlade
6.Anthony Gaynor
7.Michael Cooke
8.Paddy Brady
9.
10.
11.
12.
13.Colm Gumley
14.Mark McKeever
15.Seanie Johnston

Memories not bad BH Man-Sean Brady was at 9,Keith Soden from Ramor started instead of Ciaran Fitz at No.10.Cole at 11 and Niall Madden at 12.
Some players on that panel that were rarely seen again even at Club level in some cases-Keith Soden(was in Athlone when I last seen him)Paul McEnroe(Drumgoon)????,Gary McNamee(Ramor-mental as ever in Liverpool),Ronan Farrelly(a Garda now,transferred to the Gaels)James Briody(Transferred to Drumalee,hasnt kicked a ball in 2 years)'Stephen Smith(Mountnugent)-a teacher in Nobber,back playing with Mountnugent.Its unreal the way so many talented footballers are let slip of the radar.
Cavan4Ever made the point that we believed the hype and that was our downfall-I dont agree.Mayb it was just me but I really dont think there was much hype about that Minor team.If there was we certainly werent too aware of it.None of this winning our 1st round and announcing on BBC that we would win the All-Ireland. :-[ :-[
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Maximus Marillius on April 03, 2008, 08:35:36 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on April 03, 2008, 04:29:32 PM
Quote from: Maximus Marillius on April 03, 2008, 04:22:40 PM
Ah lads I'm enjoy the last lot of posts....talking about those great minor teams that Cavan have produced over the past 8 years. Outstanding conveyer belt of successful teams :D :D :D :D :D Ah let me guess it was the managers fault....nah...it was the ref.....nah...it was the pitch....the changing rooms.....nah

Its almost as funny as Derrys great senior team of the 90's (great by Derry standards anyhow) only managing 1 all ireland when they should have achieved much more.

unless your a very old man ye would not know much about seeing a winning all ireland team....infact ye would not know a championship medal if it hit in the face

Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on April 03, 2008, 04:37:46 PM
thanks SStopper, good team alright.

Lads Ignore the Attention seeking Derry wan and maybe he will go away  ;D  :-*

Haiseman at least you have a bit of sense auld hand
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on April 04, 2008, 10:18:34 AM
Cavan make two changes
04 April 2008

Jonathan Crowe and Jason O'Reilly have been drafted into the Cavan team for Sunday's crucial NFL clash with Westmeath in Mullingar.

Crowe replaces John McCutcheon at right half back, while the vastly experienced Jason O'Reilly is retained at top of the left after coming on as a half-time substitute for Gerard Pierson during last Saturday's dramatic win over Cork.

Nothing less than a victory will suffice for the Breffnimen in their bid to avoid relegation to Division 3 next season, while Westmeath still harbour hopes of reaching the Division 2 final.

Cavan (SF v Westmeath): J Reilly; M Hannon, P Reilly, M Brides; J Crowe, A Forde, D Sheridan; D McCabe, J Cunningham; M Reilly, R Flanagan, M McKeever; E O'Reilly, S Johnston, J O'Reilly.

http://www.hoganstand.com/Cavan/ArticleForm.aspx?ID=92317 (http://www.hoganstand.com/Cavan/ArticleForm.aspx?ID=92317)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on April 04, 2008, 10:20:58 AM
Anyone have any more news on the story about Lyng quitting the panel?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on April 04, 2008, 10:48:01 AM
Good to see Jonny Crowe still around the panel. thought he did alright last year in his first year, played both league and Championship. Brings a bit of much needed size to proceedings. Cousin of Trevor the Tank?

Pity if Lyng is off the panel, our talent well ain't too deep and one or two injuries to key players, and we know who they are so I'm not going to set off another whole debate by naming them, and we're in trouble.

Here's hoping
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on April 04, 2008, 10:59:22 AM
Quote from: anglocelt39 on April 04, 2008, 10:48:01 AM
Good to see Jonny Crowe still around the panel. thought he did alright last year in his first year, played both league and Championship. Brings a bit of much needed size to proceedings. Cousin of Trevor the Tank?

Johnny Crowe of Crosserlough, Trevor and Joe Crowe of Lacken and Adrian and Padraig Maguire of Ballinagh are all first cousins. And everyone of them built like a shithouse.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on April 04, 2008, 11:44:31 AM
While I wasnt there myself,by all accounts Johnny Crowe had a fine game for Crosserlough last wkend,he was moved to midfield in 2nd half to curb Ferncombes influence.Mayb Keoghan has his spies out.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on April 04, 2008, 11:56:26 AM
Delighted to see Johnny Crowe back. A bit of ball-busting ignorance is much required. I hope he's up to the pace of what should be a frantic enough encounter after so long out, but if he's doing well with his club that's encouraging on that score.

Here's hoping indeed. I have a bad feeling but I'll keep it to myself.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on April 04, 2008, 12:32:20 PM
Check this link out.....    http://news.bbc.co.uk/player/sol/newsid_7320000/newsid_7322200/7322228.stm?bw=bb&mp=rm&news=1&bbcws=1

Our esteemed leader talking after the Cork game
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on April 04, 2008, 12:54:49 PM
Quote from: cavanmaniac on April 04, 2008, 11:56:26 AM
Delighted to see Johnny Crowe back. A bit of ball-busting ignorance is much required. I hope he's up to the pace of what should be a frantic enough encounter after so long out, but if he's doing well with his club that's encouraging on that score.

Here's hoping indeed. I have a bad feeling but I'll keep it to myself.

I have a bad feeling myself but not about this Sunday when I am going for a barnstorming performance on a par with our our five goal performance at the same venue a number of years ago against the Rossies. Cue ecstacy, an explosion of internet traffic, recalls to the panel for Rabbitte, Crowe, Gaynor, Gunner, McKenna, miracle cures for the Ailments of John Tierney/Paddy Brady and special one off returns from retirement by Mick Higgins, Peter Donoghue, Ray Carolan and Texas Brady; the enforced weeks break to accommodate the dubs allows our leader to organise a few extra lock in/bonding sessions before we snatch defeat from the jaws of victory against a down on their arse Rossie outfit resulting in relegation on points difference with the Rials getting out of jail

Next chapter has the Chicago 3 being replaced by the Chicago 15 in Summer but can't muster the energy for that one.

Hope ta jasus I'm wrong.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Hollow Man on April 04, 2008, 01:29:35 PM
Max, go back to Londonderry son, no Johnny Come Latelies wanted on this thread...

Ronan Fitzsimons, there's a name I forgot.... Speaking of Stephen Smith, remember your man David Sheridan ("nugget"), he was a bloody good player, as was another Mountnugent lad called Bernard Lee...
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on April 04, 2008, 02:06:44 PM
i didnt see Johnny Crowe coming to be honest, i thought he was out of the reckoning and consigned to a squad place, Delighted though,he brings  a bit of size and power.

jaysus this thread is bringing back the memories,

Keith Soden  a very good player, dont hear anything about him now

same as Gary McNamee

does Paul McEnroe even get on Goonie first team.

Ronan Farrely in fairness transferred to the Gaels from us, Played well for the Gaels against us a few weeks ago.

His younger brother Donal would have been playing midfield for us only he was sick.


Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4sam on April 04, 2008, 02:46:45 PM
Gary McNamee is living in Liverpool and as far as i know, playing football is the last thing on his mind, Ronan Fitzsimons is in Australia to the best of knowledge and I'm not sure what the story is with Soden, think he is just a bit lazy to be honest.

Paul McEnroe was injured for a long time but is back playing for Drumgoon at Full Forward, someone please correct me if this is wrong
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: shotstopper1 on April 04, 2008, 04:50:33 PM
Quote from: cavan4sam on April 04, 2008, 02:46:45 PM
I'm not sure what the story is with Soden, think he is just a bit lazy to be honest.

Your probably right there,although I heard he was giving a dressing down by a Ramor manager,in front of the rest of the players, a year or two ago for playing soccer and has since thrown his lot in with the local soccer club.( it was in a 7-a-side tournament in B'duff that he had played in, and Ronan Flanagan was on his team.)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on April 04, 2008, 07:19:08 PM

God this thread is gonna turn into Cavans best Minors that never made it!
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Well sure if All Irelands were won on talk we'd have won the last 7 minor All Irelands so why not continue the fantasy long after the lads in question have disappeared into the blue yonder, suppose the one good angle to that is if it stops us talking about the curent crop of under 18 superstars..........
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on April 04, 2008, 10:57:53 PM
Quote from: cavan4ever on April 04, 2008, 10:20:58 AM
Anyone have any more news on the story about Lyng quitting the panel?

Sorry to break the news lads but its true. Apparently he's done a Joe Sheridan and left the panel as he just wasn't enjoying it.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on April 05, 2008, 02:40:57 PM
Very sad to hear that news-I cant imagine the frustration he has gone through in the last 3 years.Injury after injury.For a man so used to the high standards he set himself,it must have got too much for him to not b quite hitting those standards again.But judging by his performance against Cork he was definetley headin in the right direction.I just wonder what he's gonna do now.Mayb a break from the game might do him good? Id know a few clubs in America that would only b too happy to throw $$$$$ his way!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: CC1 on April 05, 2008, 06:20:46 PM
Quote from: Celt_Man on April 02, 2008, 04:23:40 PM
Shercock v Knockbride - Larry to beat shercock on his own
:)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on April 06, 2008, 07:07:36 PM
So normal service is resumed. Should I moan? Do I have the right? Is there any point? 5 points all at half time and some decent play despite Johnston's double marking and his end-line magnet back in play. Yet out we came and managed 1 early point in the whole second half. McCabe was thrown in amongst the sea of backs on the edge of the square to save the day but alas it wasn't to be. A very strange game with Keoghan actually employing unorthodox tactics although I'm not quite sure what the overall plan was. Westmeath were equally strange, making two changes from the team named, including the feared Glennon, only for both men to be introduced by half-time with a total of four new faces lining out at the start of the second half.

A general run through as yours truly saw it:

Miller's kickouts seemed to blow/curl off to either wing in the first half and in the second he actually played a couple short (belatedly) to Jonny Crowe. Made a good, if "for the cameras" save in the first-half from Glennon and was generally ok. He needs to realise that he's not a protected species and that he doesn't have the right to walk through forwards just because he's the 'keeper. Brides and Hannon did ok, both coming out with the ball on numerous occasions. It's a pity Brides refuses to kick the ball. After a slow and very loose start Podge came into it more but according to the program and my own eyes it looks like Rabitte was listed on the subs. Did we not read on here that he had left some weeks ago?

Dermot Sheridan as usual looked swashbuckling going forward but loose when it came to defending. Forde had a good tussle with Dolan but some of his passing was brutal. Jonny Crowe was one of Keoghan's experiments with him sweeping but with his man doing the same for Westmeath and so Jonny was seen sporadically to make a burst up the field to find his man when the ball was dead. Did ok though.

The two midfielders competed well and we won more than our fair share of breaks in this area. McCabe took one free from the left sideline that he shouldn't have gone near and sent Westmeath on a counter attack ala  Fanin v Meath.

Flanagan had a good first half as did Martin Reilly but both faded very badly in the second with the latter repalced. Our lack of size was embaressing in this sector as time went on. McKeever never really got into despite trying hard. Johnston was off form. Double marked and trying to kick difficult points with the outside of the boot. In his defence, to say he was starved of service in the second half is an understatement. Jayo won a few balls and kicked a point from play (hurrrrrahhhhhhhhhh) but was also replaced. Eddie had his day out last week and wasn't doing great when he was withdrawn in the first half and replaced by the clueless, blind, drunk(?) Mackey. Seriously, this lad HAS to be the best trainer in the world because he's shocking otherwise.

In summary, we had no plan B once Johnston was double marked, and who could have guessed that would happen?! Keoghan's emotional words following our last victory about trying their best etc smells like the shite I suspected they were. It indeed appears Lyng is gone as is Rory Donohoe (?) I  still have hope as the players individually aren't doing too bad and if we can add Pierson & Sean Brady to a toothless forward line and if Jelly doesn't wobble like last summer we could still get a mini summer run.

Now someone fill in my gaps.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on April 06, 2008, 08:40:24 PM
Keoghan should do the decent thing, and F**k off and resign.

i wasnt at the game, will be at the Rossie game even though it means nothing now,

Fair play to any of ye who made the trip

How did John Cunningham play? was he good, did he look like the heir apparent at midfield?





Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Hollow Man on April 06, 2008, 08:56:30 PM
Cunningham was dire, he doesn't look fit and he can't

a) get off the ground
b) catch the ball
c) kick the ball

It was obvious from about ten minutes into the second half that the game was going away from us but Keogan didn't respond, eventually he brought in Fannin for Martin Reilly (that was hardly going to radically change things), brought Mulvey into midfield (need I comment on this?) and stuck McCabe on the edge of the square, where he was surounded most of the time.

DK also hauled Eddie Reilly off midway through the first half - has he ever gone through a match without replacing someone in the first half, usually a corner forward?

Jelly and Jayo were inside on their own which meant that Mackey was out around the middle, he actualy got plenty of the ball but the poor lad can only do one thing, put down his head and go on a solo run. It just didnt work.

Flanagan started well but faded badly alright. Jelly wasn't great at all, albeit on a brutal supply of possession.

Still, we kicked about 15 wides I would say, shocking really. Westmeath are dung too, to be honest. Two shite teams.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on April 06, 2008, 09:19:54 PM
I think you're being a bit harsh on Cunningham. If he survived the full 70 mins at midfield under Keoghan he can't be doing too badly. I should point out for those that weren't at the game that the wides, especially in the second half, were kicked from ridiculous positions and missed by ridiculous amounts. A few in the first half were unlucky with the wind playing a factor. Oh, I forgot to mention that Mulvey hit someone with a late shoulder in his cameo so mission accomplished Lorcan. I think I need a break from the Rossie game so I'll leave that one to you BH man.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on April 06, 2008, 09:26:39 PM
Its going to have be a Nicholas Walsh(who isnt back training that long), Dermot McCabe midfield this year so.

surely Cunningham hasnt done enough to be there for the championship  :o

i like him as a player, but hes out of his depth at Midfield at IC level.

and we have no-one else.

what a lovely situation to be in eh Donal?  >:(
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on April 06, 2008, 10:45:21 PM
Man Im just depresed after that tripe.I dont think I have ever seen such a bad 2nd half in all my life.Keoghan hasnt a clue,totally clueless.We did well in the 1st half,carrying the ball against the wind.Then Westmeath come out in 2nd half and play a extra man in front of our full-forward line.So what do we do,leave our extra man in defence as either Crowe,Brides,Sheridan and Forde.We were playing with the f**king wind and we leave our extra man in defence with us behind by 2 or 3 points.We played with 4 FORWARDS with the wind and Westmeath played 7 defenders.Jelly,Jason,Flanagan and Mackey against 7 defenders.How do you expect to win a game with such tactics? McKeever and Reilly spent most of the game in our half-back line.Number 5 and 7 were Westmeaths 2 best players because they more or less had nobody marking them.A total shambles.Plunkett began calling on Forde and the group of 4 or 5 players we had hanging round centre-field to push forward with 13 minutes to go.
I have said it before and Il say it again-John Cunningham is not a county footballer.played ok for about 5 minutes in the 1st half.He is not fast,not mobile,cant jump.cant catch,cant kick.Goes down with the slightest of raps.
Westmeath were brutal too but we were worse.No Ideas.Im just so annoyed looking at such tripe when we could do so much better with the players we have in most positions if we had a manager who can make moves along the line.I listened to as many as 15 grown men who have watched Cavan football all their life after the game and all said Keoghan has to go.They couldnt believe the lack of ideas and tactics or bad tactics.
Tell me some of the following players wouldnt b better than what we had out today.
Paul the Gunner
Martin Cahill
Larry Reilly
Ray Cullivan
Eamon Reilly Chesty
Micky Brennan
Niall Madden
Darren Rabitte
Most of these either wont play or werent asked back in.
But thinking about the whole lot,there is so much wrong with Cavan Football Im just too depressed to keep typing.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on April 06, 2008, 11:21:58 PM
Isnt Mickey Brennan on the Meath Panel now hes back with Simonstown Boojangles?????, dont think wed get away with that  :D



Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on April 06, 2008, 11:33:38 PM
He's gone back to his home club Simonstown,was on Meath panel for O Byrne cup but didnt make cut but may get a chance again.
Brennan wasnt called back in to the Cavan panel this year.Keoghan hadnt the manners to ring him up and tell him.Micky met Keoghan on the street and was told the bad news and that he hadnt the time to ring 7 or 8 players to tell them they wouldnt b back in.Thats great man management skills ha?
Im good friends with Brennan and I could say with almost certainty that if Micky Brennan had been called back in this year he would still be playing with Drumalee.So now ya know why I really have a hatred of Keoghan.We could b doing with him July27th ha!! ;)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on April 06, 2008, 11:38:29 PM
nice, i also have no time for him after witnessing what hes like in the Imperial. As you also no doubt know  >:(

Players with actual size,mobility and skill, not wanted. And Keoghans man management skills once again showing.

Hes a loss to Cavan Football il say that, its a shame , although im happy hes gone from ye lot  ;D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on April 07, 2008, 09:48:06 AM
Well at least we are all in agreement on this one. Keoghan the muppet must get the boot asap. One of ye posted a link to BBC of his interview last week, have a listen to it now in light of the most recent game. What is clear is that the game plan to beat Cavan is so simple that I'd say one of our senior clubs would probably beat them. You crowd defence and you watch Keoghan scratch his head. Was he surprised that W'Meath did that, cos everyone I know knew that they would do that - especially after Johnstones performance last week. So now we are relegated (unless Armagh lose 2 games in a row and we have up a 32 point difference!). We are out of the U21 championship and I am full sure we'll only get 2 games in the senior championship too. Speaking of which where are we now for all the subs and messing he's been at....

- Still no options at midfield
- Not so sure about Podge at FB, never even gave Rabbitte a run.
- One small talented forward. No one else showing.
- No settled CHB
- No Settled CHF
- The smallest team in Ireland in the toughest province.
- Low Morale
- Lyng gone
- Rabbitte Gone
- The biggest idiot of a manager that the county has ever seen.

Not ringing Brennan is exactly the same as what he did to Gaynor too. Has he no idea the damage that sort of behaviour does to players that have busted their hole for Cavan in previous years. The man is a total disgrace and needs to go right now.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4sam on April 07, 2008, 10:22:37 AM
Keogan did the same thing with Ciaran Galligan 2, Never as much as rang him after his operation to see how he was progressing with his rehabilitation. Its the likes of Ciaran Galligan that we need on the county panel, fully committed, he big, hes athletic and he is young. Its not as though we are blessed with options for midfield.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on April 07, 2008, 12:31:54 PM
Well I'm not sure Ciaran Galligan is the answer either as I think he's a bit windy, but I'd put 15 Ciaran Galligans out there if it meant getting rid of Keogan.

The county board's money-saving experiment is now hopefully over. Maybe there's enough € in the account now that we can actually get a real manager in, instead of looking on with our mouths open as the county team rapidly descends into Carlow/Tipperary/Clare football territory. We all blame Keogan but the idiots that appointed him have to be questioned here as well, but as always, nobody will say a word to them and the same clowns will make the next appointment as well.

But let's be honest, who expected any different when he was appointed? I stomached him as long as Grimley was there to be his wet nurse, once the Armagh man left we were always fucked as whatever brains there were in the operation left with him.

If I was picking a Cavan manager in the morning, realistically, completely off the top of my head I'd be looking at these guys if available:

Luke Dempsey - proven track record of lifting morale and working with young players. Unlikely to deliver huge success or anything but would bring back pride and inject momentum.

Dessie Dolan snr - has done very well with limited resources in Leitrim, very unlucky in championship. Might not get the same work ethic in Cavan though

Tommy Carr - Mullingar based, available, strict disciplinarian, experience at the very highest level, would put a good base in place and redress some of the damage done by the Era of the Buffoon

McHugh - I'd have him back in a heartbeat but there's no chance

I wouldn't touch Maughan or Tommy Lyons. I don't know the local scene very well right now so I'm unaware of any club managers on the scene that might be candidates...
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on April 07, 2008, 01:26:28 PM
Quote from: cavanmaniac on April 07, 2008, 12:31:54 PM
Well I'm not sure Ciaran Galligan is the answer either as I think he's a bit windy, but I'd put 15 Ciaran Galligans out there if it meant getting rid of Keogan.

The county board's money-saving experiment is now hopefully over. Maybe there's enough € in the account now that we can actually get a real manager in, instead of looking on with our mouths open as the county team rapidly descends into Carlow/Tipperary/Clare football territory. We all blame Keogan but the idiots that appointed him have to be questioned here as well, but as always, nobody will say a word to them and the same clowns will make the next appointment as well.

But let's be honest, who expected any different when he was appointed? I stomached him as long as Grimley was there to be his wet nurse, once the Armagh man left we were always fucked as whatever brains there were in the operation left with him.

If I was picking a Cavan manager in the morning, realistically, completely off the top of my head I'd be looking at these guys if available:

Luke Dempsey - proven track record of lifting morale and working with young players. Unlikely to deliver huge success or anything but would bring back pride and inject momentum.

Dessie Dolan snr - has done very well with limited resources in Leitrim, very unlucky in championship. Might not get the same work ethic in Cavan though

Tommy Carr - Mullingar based, available, strict disciplinarian, experience at the very highest level, would put a good base in place and redress some of the damage done by the Era of the Buffoon

McHugh - I'd have him back in a heartbeat but there's no chance

I wouldn't touch Maughan or Tommy Lyons. I don't know the local scene very well right now so I'm unaware of any club managers on the scene that might be candidates...

Some ok guys there but I'd be looking at doing something like what Ireland soccer team did and getting a big name that will simply inpsire the panel just by being there. I say to the county board get Joe Kiernan. It would be difficult i know, but aim high I say. Maybe keoghan could wash the jerseys or something simple, 2nd thought no - we'd probably end up with blue shorts.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on April 07, 2008, 02:42:56 PM
the likes of Ciaran Galligan may not be the answer, But unfortunately in this county we have to substitute, Skill for Size and Athletic ability in some cases if we wanted a bigger more physical team, we just dont seem to have many brilliant players with size and skill.

Another question about C4ever's clubmate,
Would anyone here have John Cunningham at Midfield instead of 6'5 Ciaran Galligan, I know i wouldnt. He could also do a job at Full Forward as well i think if given a chance.

Its good to see we are all united for once against Keoghan, our  7 or 8 different posters all want him gone.

As for Managers, my top 3

Joe Kiernan
Damien Cassidy
Charlie Mulgrew

Theres no-one on the local scene that stands out.

Maniac
id only agree with you on Dessie Dolan Senior and the Great Wee Donegal man of that list.

Wouldnt touch any of the others with a barge pole to be honest.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: orangeman on April 07, 2008, 02:44:57 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on April 07, 2008, 02:42:56 PM
the likes of Ciaran Galligan may not be the answer, But unfortunately in this county we have to substitute, Skill for Size and Athletic ability in some cases if we wanted a bigger more physical team, we just dont seem to have many brilliant players with size and skill.

Another question about C4ever's clubmate,
Would anyone here have John Cunningham at Midfield instead of 6'5 Ciaran Galligan, I know i wouldnt. He could also do a job at Full Forward as well i think if given a chance.

Its good to see we are all united for once against Keoghan, our  7 or 8 different posters all want him gone.

As for Managers, my top 3

Joe Kiernan
Damien Cassidy
Charlie Mulgrew

Theres no-one on the local scene that stands out.

Maniac
id only agree with you on Dessie Dolan Senior and the Great Wee Donegal man of that list.

Wouldnt touch any of the others with a barge pole to be honest.



For the purpose of balnce, is there anyone out there who thinks Keoghan is a good manager and is doing a good job at the minute ?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on April 07, 2008, 02:46:17 PM
Not unless Keoghan himself is registered on here OM  :D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: orangeman on April 07, 2008, 02:48:44 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on April 07, 2008, 02:46:17 PM
Not unless Keoghan himself is registered on her OM  :D

;D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Mr. Pain on April 07, 2008, 03:25:02 PM
Awwwh. What a touching moment! ;)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4sam on April 07, 2008, 03:33:37 PM
Getting away from the county team for a minute, has anyone got any reports on any of the club games from the weekend, I didn't get to see my team as I had to work. We were bet by Mullahoran and by all accounts were very very poor, county men are a serious loss to a club like ours, also have a few injured and few not bothering to play this year.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on April 07, 2008, 03:34:41 PM
Quote from: cavan4sam on April 07, 2008, 03:33:37 PM
Getting away from the county team for a minute, has anyone got any reports on any of the club games from the weekend, I didn't get to see my team as I had to work. We were bet by Mullahoran and by all accounts were very very poor, county men are a serious loss to a club like ours, also have a few injured and few not bothering to play this year.

The leaguers are flying. 4 wins out of 4 and a good home win against Drung.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on April 07, 2008, 03:39:00 PM
Killygarry 2-10 ourselves 1-08

we were s**t, Killygarry fully deserved their win. we shot wide after wide in the first half playing with a strong breeze, Always going to be tough after that.

Ray Cullivan outstanding at Centrefield, Caught about 7 or 8 clean balls and scored 1-2.

For Killygarry Thomas Leonard was good as was Donal Thomas at Centre Field,

Pauric Cahill and Dec Gallen good aswell in full back line.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Mr. Pain on April 07, 2008, 03:43:21 PM
Townies beat Cuckoos
Wellie Throwers beat Harlem
Crowes beat the Halt
Gaels Wannabies beat Gaels Wannabies
Tog Dungers beat Yellow Bellied Nagh
Rorys beat Scrabby
Keoganville beat Skintown

Work that out  8)


Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on April 07, 2008, 03:47:45 PM
Quote from: Mr. Pain on April 07, 2008, 03:43:21 PM
Townies beat Cuckoos
Wellie Throwers beat Harlem
Crowes beat the Halt
Gaels Wannabies beat Gaels Wannabies
Tog Dungers beat Yellow Bellied Nagh
Rorys beat Scrabby
Keoganville beat Skintown

Work that out  8)




Townies beat Cuckoos                               Gaels  Cuchullains
Wellie Throwers beat Harlem                       Mullahoran beat Castlerahan
Crowes beat the Halt                                 Lacken Drumalee
Gaels Wannabies beat Gaels Wannabies         >:(  >:(  Killygarry Ballyhaise
Tog Dungers beat Yellow Bellied Nagh             Lavey Ballinagh
Rorys beat Scrabby                                       Belturbet Gowna
Keoganville beat Skintown                              Denn beat Crosserlough
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on April 07, 2008, 03:48:14 PM
Not ringing Brennan is exactly the same as what he did to Gaynor too.

Myles your wrong there-Gaynor was asked back in to the panel,was back in for a few weeks and then Gaynor didnt show up for a challenege match against Fermanagh because he went on the piss for his Birthday-around 29th of December.Thats a fact.Im friends with Anthony and Id love to see him back in but I dont think he has an interest once Keoghan is involved.

The club scene seems to be as bad round the County,nobody seems to b giving a shit about the League.everybody is on between 2 and 6 points in Division 1.We got bet by Lacken 1-9 to 0-6.The game was probably as bad as what we witnessed in the 2nd half in Mullingar yesterday,No Bite.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: shotstopper1 on April 07, 2008, 04:06:42 PM


Castlerahan    0-7  Mullahoran   0-12
Gowna    0-6  Belturbet    0-9
Cavan Gaels  1-8 Cuchullains 0-7
Lavey     1-16 Ballinagh  0-16
Killygarry     2-11  Ballyhaise  1-8
Crosserlough  2-5   Denn        2-6
Lacken     1 -9  Drumalee   0-6


Drumlane    0-9     Drumgoon  1-7
Killeshandra    0-9     Drung        0-5
Bailieboro   1-5      Cootehill     0-7
Killinkere    0-9     Redhills     2-9
Shercock   1-8      Knockbride 0-10
Ramor Utd   2-7      Ballymachugh   0-10
Cavan Gaels 1-7     Kingscourt   0-13


Cornafean    0-9   Kildallan  1-6
Shannon Gaels  2-10    Arva  0-7       
Mountnugent    2-12   Swanlinbar 0-6
Kill   3-7         Corlough  1-7
Laragh Utd.   1-5    Muntirconnacht   0-8
Crosserlough  3-17  Maghera   0-5
Templeport    v Bultersbridge abandoned in second half due to adverse weather conditions
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: shotstopper1 on April 07, 2008, 04:10:19 PM
Div 1               
      PL   W   D   L   Pts
Cavan Gaels   4   3   0   1   6
Lacken      4   3   0   1   6
Mullahoran      4   3   0   1   6
Cuchullains      4   3   0   1   6
Lavey      4   2   1   1   5
Crosserlough  4   2   0   2   4
Drumalee      4   2   0   2   4
Denn      3   1   1   1   3
Killygarry      3   1   0   2   2
Belturbet      3   1   0   2   2
Ballinagh      4   1   0   3   2
Ballyhaise      4   1   0   3   2
Castlerahan      3   1   0   2   2
Gowna      4   1   0   3   2
               
Div 2               
   PL   W   D   L   Pts
Killeshandra   4   4   0   0   8
Ramor Utd   3   3   0   0   6
Redhills   4   3   0   1   6
Bailieboro   4   2   0   2   4
Drumgoon   3   2   0   1   4
Knockbride   3   1   1   1   3
Killinkere   4   1   1   2   3
Kingscourt   3   1   1   1   3
Cavan G     3   1   0   2   2
Cootehill   3   1   0   2   2
Ballymac   4   1   0   3   2
Shercock   3   1   0   2   2
Drung   2   0   1   1   1
Drumlane   3   0   0   3   0
               
Div 3               
   PL   W   D   L   Pts
Corlough   4   3   0   1   6
Kildallan   3   3   0   0   6
Crosserl   3   2   0   1   4
Kill   2   2   0   0   4
M Connacht   3   1   2   0   4
Mtnugent   4   1   1   2   3
Shannon G   4   1   1   2   3
Laragh Utd   3   1   1   1   3
Swanlinbar   4   1   1   2   3
Bbridge   2   1   0   1   2
Arva   3   1   0   2   2
Templeport   1   0   1   0   1
Cornafean   4   0   1   3   1
Maghera   3   0   1   2   1
               


Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on April 07, 2008, 04:13:18 PM
lads read this on the Hoganstand messageboard

countrytool
County: Cavan
Posts: 2

4177  I have heard that Barry Watters has Gilmores Groin and has to have an operation. The specialist told him that it is from overuse. Everybody in the county could see this coming, but do you think management cares, no way. I think it is an absolute disgrace that this young lad has now this injury and also a torn musle in his groin. Cavan County Board & Management should be ashamed of themselves for, which could, destroy a very talented player. Players like this sholud be looked after and treated with care and respect. His Club must also be outraged, as they will loose this player probably for the rest of the year. There should be some sort of compensation for the club. DCU will also suffer as they have him on a Scholarship. I cant see them being too happy as they are paying his fees and might not be able to play for them next year. Keogan, Selectors & County Board you have alot to answer for and you are going the right way to alienating yourselves from clubs  

Big blow for Drung's junior championship hopes if true.

The question fo burnout comes up again,
Perhaps it could be improved by not letting under 21's play or train for the County seniors in the league and let them concentrate on the under 21 championship until its over.
anyone other solutions?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on April 07, 2008, 04:38:20 PM
It's a question of adopting the longer term view ahead of the quick-buck approach. Can you imagine if Cavan had won the All-Ireland minor like Roscomon did, half the team would be playing senior already and well on their way to burn out some of them.

Cavan's problem is that we're so poor we need to promote guys quickly, without realising we're contributing to a vicious circle by doing so and actually being counter-productive. Some day, somehow, somebody at the helm with see the bigger picture and put sensible structures in place with a target of three or four years down the road in mind, instead of trying clowning about heaping too much traning and expectation on young lads.

On the manager thing, Joe Kernan isn't going to manage outside Armagh so we can forget him. BH man mentioned Charlie Mulgrew who is one I forgot, I'd definitely have him on any shortlist.

But who's to say our super county board will even show Keogan the door after our two championship defeats this summer?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cornafean on April 07, 2008, 04:39:37 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on April 07, 2008, 04:13:18 PM
anyone other solutions?

Abandon U21 altogether? Or adopt Donal McAnallen's recommendations in the Sindo yesterday...

http://www.independent.ie/sport/other-sports/tough-decisions-needed-as-gaa-at-crossroads-1339768.html

QUOTE:
1 Limit training

The amount of training done by county teams is the biggest strain on the GAA's amateur status. For people who work by day, they are asked to train too much -- and their bodies and time are overburdened. The GPA decries "the plight of inter-county players". Yet it never calls for less training, as it needs a "plight" to justify monetary demands.

The ban on "full-time training" in Rule 11 should be defined: for example, to read, "Full-time training is prohibited, according to limits set by Central Council." Then set a rate of, say, no more than two/three collective sessions (including team meetings) per week. Players could also train with clubs or individually.

There is a clear precedent. In 1954, the amateur status was first put into rule to stop teams holding full-time training camps for weeks before big finals. Teams on such camps were often paid for time off work ("broken-time payment") and even more. In 1953 Kerry allegedly spent £18 a week per player on training camps. Congress' decision to ban full-time training was brave. Sceptics said it couldn't work, or that it would lower the standard of play and the crowds would stop watching. How wrong they were. The amateur status was copperfastened from then until recently.

2 Prioritise Player Health

A government taskforce advised the GAA to screen all inter-county players for heart defects, as a duty of care. Only a couple of hundred are being screened, and very slowly.

The GAA could have its own mobile screening unit on the road, screening all county players and ordinary members, and partly funded by heart charities, commercial sponsors and the Department of Health. Such mobile units operate in Britain and America. The costs of defibrillators to clubs can also be defrayed.

Insurance cover should be enhanced; for example, for players who need regular physiotherapy or osteopathic treatment.
END QUOTE
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Davitt Man on April 07, 2008, 05:04:36 PM
Cornafean, how did ye get on against Kildallon? What was there line up??
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on April 07, 2008, 05:15:29 PM
Quote from: boojangles on April 07, 2008, 03:48:14 PM
Not ringing Brennan is exactly the same as what he did to Gaynor too.

Myles your wrong there-Gaynor was asked back in to the panel,was back in for a few weeks and then Gaynor didnt show up for a challenege match against Fermanagh because he went on the piss for his Birthday-around 29th of December.Thats a fact.Im friends with Anthony and Id love to see him back in but I dont think he has an interest once Keoghan is involved.

The club scene seems to be as bad round the County,nobody seems to b giving a shit about the League.everybody is on between 2 and 6 points in Division 1.We got bet by Lacken 1-9 to 0-6.The game was probably as bad as what we witnessed in the 2nd half in Mullingar yesterday,No Bite.


Maybe so, I was just repeating what some of the Ballinagh lads told me. Anyway, since when did going on the piss mean being kicked of the panel? Maybe he just didn't go to the imperial. Point is you need to work with guys like Gaynor, who in my opinion could be the back bone of Cavan teams of the future.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cornafean on April 07, 2008, 05:20:42 PM
Quote from: Davitt Man on April 07, 2008, 05:04:36 PM
Cornafean, how did ye get on against Kildallon?
Drew 0-9 (us) to 1-6 (them). According to accounts, we threw it away.
Quote from: Davitt Man on April 07, 2008, 05:04:36 PMWhat was there line up??
Wasn't there myself so can't help you there.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: CC1 on April 07, 2008, 05:30:59 PM
Good win for ourselves (Shercock) against near neighbours Knockbride and it could have been by much much more (1 missed penalty and 1 on 1 goal chance along with a host of missed chances for points). Very important to get those two points as we were starting to look a bit lonesome down at the bottom of div 2.

We are now starting to get a few players back from injury (we had 12 out injured against Ramor) and this victory will be a huge morale booster. We still have Mickey Reilly to come back from suspension along with Shane McPhillips, Brian Hamilton, Eddie and John McDermott. The two week break will suit us down to the ground and hopefully then we can play to our full potential.

For now, sickening the boggers of Knockbride will have to do!!  ;D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on April 07, 2008, 05:47:52 PM
Scrapping the Under 21 Championship is not the answer-If this Championship was run at the right time of the year in Cavan it would b a step in the right direction.How can we pick a County Under21 team properly when the championship is played in Autumn and Winter and the Ulster Champioship starts the previous March.Alot of lads playing in the club Under 21 championship in Cavan are overage to represent the County.
When we last won Ulster in 97,that whole panel bar 5 or 6 had won an Ulster Under 21 medal in 88 or 96 and had played in an All-Ireland Final at that level.Success breeds success.
The Clubs in Cavan have a lot of the blame to take for the lack of success in Ulster.Most clubs in Cavan dont really want to improve themselves.They are only interested in winning things and it dosent matter at what level.Most clubs in Cavan would prefer to go down a Division at underage level if it means they'd win something.
I was at the Bord Peil na nOg AGM in the Meadow View this year and all I could hear was most delegates looking to get down a Division.The aim of every club should b to b playing in Division 1.My own club were playing in Division 2 last year but we'v been moved up to Division 1 which I was delighted about.Shercock a Junior club were moved up with us and they expressed how great it was to see a Junior club playing Division 1 football at U-14 level.Young lads playing at the highest level is only going to improve them as footballers.
Mullahoran are 1 of the biggest clubs in the county but I remember them about 10 years ago getting down to Division 2 at U-14 level when it was obvious to all that they were the 2nd best team in the county bar Cavan Gaels.Sure enough they won Division 2 that year beating ourselves in the final.
I know that lately alot of good work is being done in most clubs as regards coaching but we really have to put more of an effort in to improve the basic skills of all footballers at Underage.How many great young footballers do we see round Under-12 and U-14 that can dominate games because of their physical size but come Under16 and Minor they are only average because they havent been coached properly on their weaknesses.
Its easy talking here on a discussions board about what should be done.Judging by most peoples views on Gaelic football on this board we all mostly know our football.So why not transfer some of that knowledge to the Youth teams in your club.Cavan Gaels are a shining example.Ask every player who has won a championship with the Gaels in the last 10 years,wher they learned how to play football.The answer will b the same from them all-JJ Reilly,John Fee RIP,Finian Farrell,Paddy Reilly and probably 10 other names I have forgotten in Terry Coyle park on a Saturday morning.Like them or hate them you have to admire them.Cavan Gaels have put in tireless work at Underage level over the last 20 years and look where its got them.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on April 07, 2008, 08:12:28 PM
Quote from: boojangles on April 07, 2008, 05:47:52 PM
Mullahoran are 1 of the biggest clubs in the county but I remember them about 10 years ago getting down to Division 2 at U-14 level when it was obvious to all that they were the 2nd best team in the county bar Cavan Gaels.Sure enough they won Division 2 that year beating ourselves in the final.

ye beat us in the semi final that year yas c**nts  >:( , but we won the championship  ;D

That Mullahoran team was men against boys,

Gerard Reily was a collosus at midfield already 6ft tall,

James Briody CHB

The best of the lot, Wee Oliver Galligan at Centre Half Forward, The boy was like lightening.

and Big Donoghue at Full Forward about 6ft and 14 stone aged 14 an absolute tank.

None of us stood a chance in Division 2.

although the Gaels tanked that Mullahoran team in the division One championship that year.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4sam on April 08, 2008, 12:09:39 PM
Lads i see there is a possibility that round 5 of the league might be played this weekend for teams that have county players, This came through from the county board

From the CB:

The clubs that will be involved with the county team for the NFL match against Roscommon are: Drung, Drumgoon, Ballinagh, Cavan Gaels, Mullahoran, Crosserlough, Gowna, Swanlinbar, Castlerahan, Belturbet, Butlersbridge, Redhills, Cootehill and Killygarry. Due to their involvement with the county team their club matches for round 5 can be played on this coming Sunday if their opponents are agreeable to bringing the fixture forward. If clubs are not agreeable it will go down as a postponed fixture which will be played on a Wednesday evening.

The A.C.F.L. Division 4 to 6 Round 5 which was due to take place on this weekend (19th/20th) also has been postponed due to the county fixture.

Thanking you in advance.
Is mise le meas

Fixtures:
Friday, 11th April 2008 @ 7pm
National Irish Bank A.C.F.L. Division 5 Round 2
Killinkere v Knockbride
Referee: Margaret Farrelly

Friday, 11th April 2008 @ 7pm
A.C.F.L. Division 6 Round 2
Butlersbridge v Arva
Referee: Gavin Smith

Saturday, 12th April 2008 @ 6pm
John Brady Insurances Ltd. A.C.F.L. Division 4 Round 2
Gowna v Ballinagh
Referee: Brian Seagrave
Lacken v Killygarry (Game at 2pm)
Referee: Noel Mooney
Kingscourt v Denn
Referee: Raymond Tynan
Castlerhan v Belturbet
Referee: Jim Hyland

Saturday, 12th April 2008 @ 6pm
National Irish Bank A.C.F.L. Division 5 Round 2
Bailieboro v Kildallon (Game at 2pm)
Referee: T P Gray
Lavey v Drung
Referee: Ronan Bannon
Ballyhaise v Cootehill
Referee: Daniel Luby
Laragh v Redhills
Referee: Kieran McCarville
Ramor v Shercock
Referee: Patrick Brady

Saturday, 12th April 2008 @ 6pm
A.C.F.L. Division 6 Round 2
Killinkere v Swanlinbar
Referee: Jim Giblin
Templeport v Killygarry
Referee: John Cassidy
Shannon Gaels v Ballymachugh
Referee: Harry Conaty
Mountnugent v Kill
Referee: Felim O Reilly
Killeshandra v Muntirconnacht
Referee: John Pat Martin
Cornafean v Maghera
Referee: Chris McCaffrey

Saturday, 19th April 2008 @ 7pm
Imperial Bar A.C.F.L. Division 1 Round 5
Belturbet v Cavan Gaels (Game 4.30pm)
Referee: Ollie Donohoe
Ballinagh v Killygarry
Referee: Gavin Smith
Cuchullains v Lavey
Referee: Jimmy Galligan - Lacken
Ballyhaise v Crosserlough (Game 4.30pm)
Referee: Martin Brady - Lacken
Mullahoran v Gowna
Referee: Donal Reilly
Denn v Lacken
Referee: Jimmy Galligan - Killygarry
Drumalee v Castlerahan
Referee: Gerry Sheridan

Saturday, 19th April 2008 @ 7pm
Cathal Brady Audi A.C.F.L. Division 2 Round 5
Drumgoon v Killeshandra
Referee: Padraig Kelleher
Drung v Bailieboro
Referee: Martin Brady - Ballinagh
Cootehill v Killinkere
Referee: Tony McDonald
Redhills v Ramor
Referee: Seamus O Connor
Kingscourt v Drumlane
Referee: Packie Smith
Ballymachugh v Shercock
Referee: Jim Hyland
Knockbride v Cavan Gaels
Referee: MG Brady

Saturday, 19th April 2008 @ 7pm
Lakeside Manor Hotel A.C.F.L. Division 3 Round 5
Swanlinbar v Cornafean
Referee: Harry Conaty
Corlough v Laragh
Referee: Ronan Bannon
Munterconnacht v Templeport
Referee: Oliver O'Reilly
Maghera v Shannon Gaels
Referee: Raymond Kelly
Kildallon v Kill
Referee: Margaret Farrelly
Arva v Mountnugent
Referee: Patrick Brady
Butlersbridge v Crosserlough
Referee: Donal Reilly
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on April 08, 2008, 04:52:20 PM

ye beat us in the semi final that year yas c**nts   , but we won the championship 

We hammered yas out in lacken as rite.Then we got disqualified for playing an overage player in nets in the 1st round of the Championship Vs Lacken.The lad we played was 3rd choice goalie and was at fault for 2 goals against Lacken,but we still bet them by 8 points.il never forgive Lacken for that.If the game had been tight then they might have had cause for objection.We couldnt have known he was overage,the stupid dummy(who has since transferred to the Gaels where he carries water) gave the wrong date of birth.That deprived me of winning a medal at every Age-Group with Drumalee. >:(
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Mr. Pain on April 09, 2008, 10:25:46 AM
 :'(
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: LackenLegend on April 10, 2008, 09:13:25 AM
Ha :D nice one Mr. Pain.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Hollow Man on April 10, 2008, 09:39:57 AM
Well, are you playing this weekend Double L?

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: LackenLegend on April 10, 2008, 10:52:21 AM
Lacken are playing a Junior match on Saturday at 2pm. Playing Killygarry in Lacken. I think Killygarry have a third team playing away to Templeport at 6pm that evening. Plus they have a stag that weekend. It will be interesting to see what happens. No senior game this weekend.

On another note:
QuoteOverage player in nets in the 1st round of the Championship Vs Lacken.The lad we played was 3rd choice goalie and was at fault for 2 goals against Lacken,but we still bet them by 8 points.il never forgive Lacken for that.If the game had been tight then they might have had cause for objection.We couldnt have known he was overage,the stupid dummy(who has since transferred to the Gaels where he carries water) gave the wrong date of birth.That deprived me of winning a medal at every Age-Group with Drumalee. >:(

Bullshit, Boojangles. I remember that match. Half the Lacken lads knew he was overage so how did Drumalee not? Ye aren't that stupid are ye? I don't care if he played shite or not. Drumalee then got ratty and pointed out that Lacken hadn't written the team sheet in Irish/signed it in Irish and both teams got thrown out. So if ya want to blame somebody blame your managers and club for their idiocy!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Hollow Man on April 10, 2008, 01:25:29 PM
It's going off...
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on April 10, 2008, 02:43:32 PM
Was talking to a lad there and he was telling me that Cavan only had 20 togged out against Westmeath. He reckons 10 players have left the panel in the last few weeks due to falling out with management. I know Lyng, Rabbitte and Donohoe have gone but not sure who the rest are. The guy has a relation on the panel so I have no reason to doubt his information. Anyone know who the rest are.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on April 10, 2008, 08:04:24 PM
if thats true Myles its an even bigger joke of a situation than we thought, it will end up like Mattie Kerrigan, calling up 4 or 5 players a week or two before the championship just to make up the squad numbers.  ::)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4sam on April 11, 2008, 09:41:48 AM
yea a few lads have left the panel in the last couple of weeks, Micheal Lyng, Rory Donoghue, Raymond Galligan. There were only 20 togged against westmeath. Mick Mcdonald from drumgoon has been called in.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on April 11, 2008, 09:46:05 AM
Quote from: cavan4sam on April 11, 2008, 09:41:48 AM
yea a few lads have left the panel in the last couple of weeks, Micheal Lyng, Rory Donoghue, Raymond Galligan. There were only 20 togged against westmeath. Mick Mcdonald from drumgoon has been called in.

I wonder does he know that the lock-ins are over till the championship.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4sam on April 11, 2008, 10:01:23 AM
Does anybody here think that Mick McDonald is a better option than Ciaran Galligan at midfield? He is less mobile for 1.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on April 11, 2008, 10:32:46 AM
I don't know if either are good enough.. what u think yourself?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4sam on April 11, 2008, 10:50:44 AM
I dont really know the answer either, I suppose it would be good if both were in at the beginning of the year because they are the kind of guys we need for midfield, big lads Galligan 6' 4" and McDonald 6' 2". Think both are better than either declan gaffney or john cunningham.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on April 11, 2008, 11:05:52 AM
I was hoping that someone would come back and tell me that I was wrong and that we had more  than 20 togged out against westmeath. Just goes to show you what a mess Keoghan is making of the job. It is way too late bringing in new midfielders now. Is Walsh still on the panel cos as far as I can see we need him in there as he's the best we have at the moment. I also think there is a good chance Ros will turn us over next week.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4sam on April 11, 2008, 11:34:42 AM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on April 11, 2008, 11:05:52 AM
I was hoping that someone would come back and tell me that I was wrong and that we had more  than 20 togged out against westmeath. Just goes to show you what a mess Keoghan is making of the job. It is way too late bringing in new midfielders now. Is Walsh still on the panel cos as far as I can see we need him in there as he's the best we have at the moment. I also think there is a good chance Ros will turn us over next week.

Why do you think its too late? We all agree that the midfielders that are there at the minute aren't up to it so why not at least have a look at these guys?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on April 11, 2008, 12:15:09 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on April 11, 2008, 11:05:52 AM
I was hoping that someone would come back and tell me that I was wrong and that we had more  than 20 togged out against westmeath. Just goes to show you what a mess Keoghan is making of the job. It is way too late bringing in new midfielders now. Is Walsh still on the panel cos as far as I can see we need him in there as he's the best we have at the moment. I also think there is a good chance Ros will turn us over next week.


Jesus H Christ. Now Myles we know where you stand on Keogan but please tell me you're having a laugh on this one. One week after we roll Cork, a vital match against W/meath which was winnable and only 20 togged out. Surely not. Am I the only one noticing that quite a few of our Gaels Superstars are not on/have left the panel. Eamon Reilly not called back, Walsh/Rabbitte/Lyng.............perhaps they don't quite appreciate DK's somewhat homespun approach to things..................there's a lot more to this than meets the eye and I'd reckon, not for the first time, that certain players not without blame.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on April 11, 2008, 12:16:12 PM
Well because the championship is just around the corner and these guys, through no fault of their own, have missed out on about 6 months of training. They probably wouldn't do themselves justice on the county team now if they got a chance. In fairness, the midfielders that are on the panel haven't had much of a chance to shine either thanks to our great leader. It just seems to be such a total mess. It is a sad sad state of affairs when the best we can hope for is to beat Antrim - and i'd seriously doubt we will do that. Any idea why Galligan is gone from the panel? Or who the rest of the players that left are?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on April 11, 2008, 12:20:52 PM
Quote from: anglocelt39 on April 11, 2008, 12:15:09 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on April 11, 2008, 11:05:52 AM
I was hoping that someone would come back and tell me that I was wrong and that we had more  than 20 togged out against westmeath. Just goes to show you what a mess Keoghan is making of the job. It is way too late bringing in new midfielders now. Is Walsh still on the panel cos as far as I can see we need him in there as he's the best we have at the moment. I also think there is a good chance Ros will turn us over next week.


Jesus H Christ. Now Myles we know where you stand on Keogan but please tell me you're having a laugh on this one. One week after we roll Cork, a vital match against W/meath which was winnable and only 20 togged out. Surely not. Am I the only one noticing that quite a few of our Gaels Superstars are not on/have left the panel. Eamon Reilly not called back, Walsh/Rabbitte/Lyng.............perhaps they don't quite appreciate DK's somewhat homespun approach to things..................there's a lot more to this than meets the eye and I'd reckon, not for the first time, that certain players not without blame.

Just putting forward what I heard from a reliable source. Maybe some players are also to blame - I don't know. What I do know is who's responsibility it is to keep the panel together and to keep players motivated. We've seen how Keoghan handled the Chicago 3, Gaynor, Larry etc so if I were a betting man i'd say that this is of his making and that is what my contact tells me too.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Hollow Man on April 11, 2008, 01:16:26 PM
It's common knowledge why one of those Gaels lads isn't back.

Jesus, what a joke when you think about it...
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on April 11, 2008, 01:27:01 PM
Quote from: Hollow Man on April 11, 2008, 01:16:26 PM
It's common knowledge why one of those Gaels lads isn't back.

Jesus, what a joke when you think about it...

Its not that common cos I don't know what you are talking about. Fill me in...
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on April 11, 2008, 01:36:28 PM
I can't shed much light on this but I did take the chance to watch the team warm up. The subs had bibs on and I would've thought there were more than five. I also thought I spotted Rabbitte but couldn't be sure. He was named on the programme which I acknowledge isn't reliable. Rory seems to be gone as he played for his club last week and wasn't listed on the programme. Good old reliable Rory-he plays poorly in about 6 games in a row and once he's dropped he's gone. I think I remember this happening before. So tell us then, what's this obvious news about the boys that have left that I also haven't heard about?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on April 11, 2008, 02:52:39 PM
I'm fairly sure that Rabbitte is still in there, and if he isn't I'm sure it's because he has been fully fit for the past few weeks and still hasn't been given a run. Lyng and Rory Donohoe are definitely gone and it's rumored that apart from being injured Pierson has also left the panel.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: shotstopper1 on April 11, 2008, 03:22:29 PM
Did Rabbitte not play with the Gaels Sat evening v Cuchullains?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on April 11, 2008, 03:27:01 PM
im delighted Michael McDonald ixs in the panel, but too little too late im afraid, hes missed 6 months of intense County Training, i cant think he will be fit enough for anything other than substitute appearances unless hes been training very hard on his own.

as for the news on why the players left

Rumours around that Darren Rabbitte was going to leave the panel due to him stuyding,i believe hes still there though.

Nicholas Walsh is on the panel and was among the subs for the Cork game.Hes probably working his way ba ck to fitness as hes months behind the rest of the panel.

Havent heard anything about Pierson
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Mr. Pain on April 11, 2008, 03:30:08 PM
Now now Hollow Man, Mr. Pain thinks it's best if you don't answer that one. Mr. Pain has a feeling he knows what you are talking about. Best leave it be. If the man in question knows himself, then it was up to him to do something about it, and Mr. Pain has killed for less.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on April 11, 2008, 03:40:23 PM
anyone PM me this news that MrPain and HM are referring to? Obviously has no place in a public forum.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Hollow Man on April 11, 2008, 03:41:26 PM
Rant over Mr Pain?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Davitt Man on April 11, 2008, 03:45:07 PM
Quote from: cavan4sam on April 11, 2008, 11:34:42 AM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on April 11, 2008, 11:05:52 AM
I was hoping that someone would come back and tell me that I was wrong and that we had more  than 20 togged out against westmeath. Just goes to show you what a mess Keoghan is making of the job. It is way too late bringing in new midfielders now. Is Walsh still on the panel cos as far as I can see we need him in there as he's the best we have at the moment. I also think there is a good chance Ros will turn us over next week.

Why do you think its too late? We all agree that the midfielders that are there at the minute aren't up to it so why not at least have a look at these guys?

What about Colin O'Hara for midfield. He was in there a few years back for trials. I think he is back with kildallon?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on April 11, 2008, 03:47:53 PM
i thought he was a full back Davitt Man, i dont know very much about him though, Is it true he struggled to get on the Kildare club team he played with?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on April 11, 2008, 03:50:06 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on April 11, 2008, 03:40:23 PM
anyone PM me this news that MrPain and HM are referring to? Obviously has no place in a public forum.

Yeh, me too!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on April 11, 2008, 03:50:50 PM
Quote from: shotstopper1 on April 11, 2008, 03:22:29 PM
Did Rabbitte not play with the Gaels Sat evening v Cuchullains?

He did and by all accounts is suppose to have played very well. He also played earlier rounds in the league against Ballyhaise for one and only missed the Ballinagh game as he was away.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on April 11, 2008, 03:53:08 PM
we are like a bunch of women just eager to hear all the dirt and gossip  :D  :D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Hollow Man on April 11, 2008, 03:55:36 PM
Davitt Man has a serious horn for Colin O'Hara
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Stagmeister on April 11, 2008, 04:25:37 PM
Quote from: Hollow Man on April 11, 2008, 03:55:36 PM
Davitt Man has a serious horn for Colin O'Hara

Can we cut a long story short here..Is he good looking??
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Mr. Pain on April 11, 2008, 04:26:16 PM
Quote from: Hollow Man on April 11, 2008, 03:41:26 PM
Rant over Mr Pain?

Rant over Hollow Man!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: LackenLegend on April 11, 2008, 04:29:16 PM
Any senior games going ahead this weekend? Clubs could agree to play them couldn't they. I think i know what the big mystery is too. I heard something but i wouldn't like to say on this site. If it got out it would make national headlines, that's all i can say.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Mr. Pain on April 11, 2008, 04:31:13 PM
Damn right it would LackenLegend. Better keep it on the QT for now.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Hollow Man on April 11, 2008, 04:47:09 PM
Say nothing till ya hear more...
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on April 11, 2008, 04:47:46 PM
 ::)  ::)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on April 11, 2008, 06:04:38 PM
Theres obviously 2 sides to every story lacken legend,fair enough but the player in question was in the same class as Terry Hyland and he obviously picked up on it.Our captain Martin O Neill was in the same class as him in Pats and he didnt kno,so to say half the Lacken lads knew is shite.If we had have known he was overage we obviously wouldnt hav played the muppet,its not like he was any good.When U register with a club You dont have to show a Birth-cert,so whats to stop any young lad giving a false DOB? As soon as we found out he was overage,we went to Willie Mimnagh of Bord Peil and told him the truth-that the lad had given a FALSE date of birth.We also went to Lacken(Gussie Crowe and Terry Hyland snr) and admitted he was overage.We offered to replay the game in Lacken.Lacken declined.
When it came to the County Board Lackens objection was thrown out on a technicality of some part not been written in Irish.Then Lacken called for an investigation into the Drumalee Club when they were thrown out,NOT the other way around as You stated.My Father was our Manager so I remember this like it was yesterday.We were then thrown out.Rules are rules fair enough,but to stop young lads of 13 and 14 from playing football,even after we had offered to replay in Lacken was wrong.Drumalee won the game convincingly by 8 points,in my eyes You win matches on the field.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on April 11, 2008, 06:45:50 PM
Is this big secret the one about Keoghan riding a few of the Gales boys? Ah yeah, I read that in The Sun. Old news.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: pedro on April 11, 2008, 07:31:04 PM
Can someone PM me the details please? A couple of our lads are related to Gaels folk and I heard some quare stories about the Cavan panel so I would like to hear the details! As BHMan says, I'm worse than a woman!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on April 11, 2008, 07:34:22 PM
aye lads come on, send some PM's to us uninformed,  :)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on April 11, 2008, 07:42:21 PM
I think I know what this secret is,I actually never thought of it until I put 2 and 2 together when thinkin about why 1 of the Gaels lads wasnt back in.I really dont know if it shud b discussed.Whats this PM jazz lads?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on April 11, 2008, 07:44:46 PM
Private Messaging boojangles so as to not discuss it on a public forum.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on April 11, 2008, 08:38:28 PM
jaysus I haven't a clue what all this wink wink nudge nudge craic about the seniors is about???? anyone care to enlighten me?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on April 12, 2008, 10:26:47 AM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on April 11, 2008, 03:50:06 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on April 11, 2008, 03:40:23 PM
anyone PM me this news that MrPain and HM are referring to? Obviously has no place in a public forum.

Yeh, me too!

Me 2 !!!

Rabbitte is still there as far as i know but walsh broke a bone in is hand .
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on April 14, 2008, 02:41:35 PM
Can't believe none of ye feckers has sent me on the latest scandal by PM! I am outraged.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on April 14, 2008, 03:46:21 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on April 14, 2008, 02:41:35 PM
Can't believe none of ye feckers has sent me on the latest scandal by PM! I am outraged.

me 2  >:(
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: LackenLegend on April 15, 2008, 09:56:07 AM
Ah Boojangles i don't really care anymore. I'm too lazy to argue anyway!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Handball Ace on April 15, 2008, 11:01:58 AM
Congratulations to Patrick Clerkin on winning the All Ireland 40x20 Junior B Singles title in Mullingar last Sunday.

Also, good luck to Paul Brady and Michael Finnegan wo take on Mayo in the All Ireland senior doubles final in Kingscourt this Saturday. Anyone whois intrested in attending what will be one of the top sporting events in the county this year can PM me and I'll sort out tickets.

Cavan handball is booming at the moment, there is a new club on the go in St Pats and all players, beginners and experienced, are welcome to join. The courts have been recently done up (thanks to Terry Hyland Auctioneering, Ballyhaise, for sponsorship) and a doubles tournament is planned for a few weeks time to open it. There will be grades for players of all abilities...

PM me if you're interested!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on April 15, 2008, 12:57:15 PM
Rumour has it that Gunner and Martin Cahill are back with County Panel.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on April 15, 2008, 01:10:16 PM
You know what? I see the words 'Cavan' and 'county' and 'team' in the one sentence these days and I just look the other way.

Oh Lord what did we do to deserve this burden? :'(
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on April 15, 2008, 01:20:15 PM
I hear the fixtures for Junior B and C championships and U-21 are out..... we got Drumgoon in the juniors as well.... praise the Lord ;D kicking off in August 6th..... anyone have the full list or dates for the 21s?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on April 15, 2008, 03:01:52 PM
Celt Man

where you playing against our juniors on Saturday? Good game.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on April 15, 2008, 03:52:09 PM
aye i was captain fantastic :D... good game thought we might get something out of it but everytime we got close... we leaked another soft goal... jaysus that ref Tony McDonald has a bee in his bonnet about time wasting... we were four points down at half time and then he is shouting at our keeper to hurry up, quit time wasting and kick the ball out!! As if we were time wasting 4 points down 30 seconds into the second half.... ahh sure not the worst complaint to have about a ref i suppose
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on April 15, 2008, 04:07:08 PM
 wasnt playing myself  and didnt see it that closely as the seniors had a light training session,but it was a good game,some good play by both sides in terrible conditions. we would have a fairly good junior team anyway

Juniors were top 4 in Division 4 just 2 years ago,

didnt see who yer captain was either so your identity is safe  ;)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on April 16, 2008, 01:21:53 AM
Sincerely doubt it that Paul the Gunner is back in on the County,I kno he has said that he wouldnt go near the County while that bollix(his 1st Cousin) is over them.And who would blame him ha
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: CC1 on April 16, 2008, 01:51:26 AM
Quote from: Celt_Man on April 15, 2008, 03:52:09 PM
aye i was captain fantastic :D... good game thought we might get something out of it but everytime we got close... we leaked another soft goal... jaysus that ref Tony McDonald has a bee in his bonnet about time wasting... we were four points down at half time and then he is shouting at our keeper to hurry up, quit time wasting and kick the ball out!! As if we were time wasting 4 points down 30 seconds into the second half.... ahh sure not the worst complaint to have about a ref i suppose
Yeah he's always been like that. He said to me before throw in one time that I had 20 seconds to kick the ball out, he didn't mention that myself or the umpires had to retrieve the ball and kick it out in 20 seconds though... Not a nice thing when you're trying to get into your routine of kicking the ball out. Strange strange ref, had one or two chats with him and he talks alot of sense, too bad he doesn't transfer it onto the pitch sometimes.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on April 17, 2008, 11:03:53 PM
with all the posts on here you can tell Cavan Football is buzzing  :D
any thoughts on the game Sunday?
anyone heard any team lineups etc?

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on April 18, 2008, 12:12:03 AM
Absolutely no interset in this Sundays game,I doubt 200 will travel over to Rosscommon.The once famous Cavan supporters have mostly disappeared,disillusioned and disappointed with the overall Senior set-up.Bad bad times for a Cavan supporter.
Dare I say it but could our Minors be our only hope? ::) ::)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on April 18, 2008, 11:56:36 AM
Argghghghhghghghhghhhhh like the first cuckoo of spring, there it is....the first mention of our U18s being our hopes for the year and so the kibosh is firmly fixed on our minors for 2008!

It's all over now lads, blame boojangles! :P
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on April 19, 2008, 12:37:34 PM
Heard Goonies beat Killeshandra last night by 5 or 6 points.... McDonald got the line in the first ten minutes and Declan McKiernan saw red before the end too
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Hollow Man on April 20, 2008, 04:36:50 PM
Any word on the match other then that we let a lead slip near the end, were ebaten by a point and Keogan is the worst manager in the EU?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on April 20, 2008, 05:13:44 PM
The Cavan senior football team's predicament, in pictures.

The world sees us like this (http://www.est1892.co.uk/forums/images/smilies/liverpool/point.gif) because everyone can see our manager's a bit of a (http://www.est1892.co.uk/forums/images/smilies/liverpool/crackoff.gif) who thinks management is about letting lads drink until they are(http://www.est1892.co.uk/forums/images/smilies/liverpool/chunks.gif), or about standing on a sideline (http://www.est1892.co.uk/forums/images/smilies/liverpool/ranting.gif) about WORKRATE!!!!

I think everyone here agrees it's time we told him to (http://www.est1892.co.uk/forums/images/smilies/liverpool/finger.gif) or ordered him a (http://www.est1892.co.uk/forums/images/smilies/liverpool/taxi.gif) to get rid quick sharp.

Until he goes, we'll all be just (http://www.est1892.co.uk/forums/images/smilies/liverpool/duh.gif) and (http://www.est1892.co.uk/forums/images/smilies/liverpool/wallbash.gif).

I give up...(http://www.est1892.co.uk/forums/images/smilies/liverpool/sigh.gif)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on April 21, 2008, 12:12:57 AM
this shit is beyond a joke now

Roscommon are in disarray cant beat anyone else at the moment,they would struggle to beat most of the division 4 teams!!!, yet they can beat us.  ::)

we might and its just a might pip Antrim in Casement,and thats just because they will no doubt be in pieces after they done a "cavan" and lost out on promotion on the last day. But we will go no further, I dread to think what an Armagh team might do to us if they caught form.

ah well lads,look at the bright side, 2 or at most 3 games until this joker is out of a job.

now what was that about this great minor team we have this year :P


Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on April 21, 2008, 10:06:00 AM
Thats the first game Roscommon have won since they beat us 12 months ago    :D :D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on April 21, 2008, 02:13:15 PM
Maniac  :D just seen that post now.

now to the important stuff

Lavey and Cuchullains drew in Division 1 at the weekend. 1-8 to 0-11.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on April 23, 2008, 10:33:06 AM
Anyone have any news?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4sam on April 23, 2008, 11:30:30 AM
think everybody has lost interest in the whole thing, are there going to be clubs fixtures this weekend? postponed games??
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on April 23, 2008, 01:41:18 PM
Just to keep your spirits up Cavan4Ever...........


http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/northern_ireland/7362450.stm
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: CC1 on April 23, 2008, 02:07:55 PM
Quote from: cavan4sam on April 23, 2008, 11:30:30 AM
think everybody has lost interest in the whole thing, are there going to be clubs fixtures this weekend? postponed games??
Yeah, we are playing Cavan Gaels B team this weekend, after the game was originally postponed. Should be an interesting encounter. Gaels need a win after two losses on the bounce and will field a very strong side as they have no senior game this weekend. We are playing reasonably well at the moment and if the forwards get their shooting boots on we will be hard to stop in my opinion. Could have won the Knockbride and Ballymachugh games by at least 8 points but for wasteful play. We might have a few lads back so hopefully we can get 3/4 of our strongest side out at least...
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4sam on April 23, 2008, 02:08:57 PM
He would also miss the Armagh game should cavan manage to beat Antrim, incidentally the picture is of Finbar and not Mark.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on April 23, 2008, 03:34:37 PM
Quote from: Lawrence of Knockbride on April 23, 2008, 01:41:18 PM
Just to keep your spirits up Cavan4Ever...........


http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/northern_ireland/7362450.stm

I've lost all hope anyway the year is a write off.  One of the players told me that Keoghan is just using same tactics as grimley did last year and alot of the more Senior players are getting very frustrated with him.  He reckons that he should get gate and someone else brough in even at this late stage.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on April 23, 2008, 03:54:58 PM
Cavan are going to be a write off this year and there is no doubt about that. Not only is Keoghan a completely useless manager, as we all know, but the players have clearly had enough of him too. What a mess. Another year pissed away. I am starting to consider what team to adopt this year after our enevitable collapse. I am thinking Fermanagh. I think they will shock the mushroom men who are totally over rated in my opinion.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on April 23, 2008, 04:24:30 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on April 23, 2008, 03:54:58 PM
Cavan are going to be a write off this year and there is no doubt about that. Not only is Keoghan a completely useless manager, as we all know, but the players have clearly had enough of him too. What a mess. Another year pissed away. I am starting to consider what team to adopt this year after our enevitable collapse. I am thinking Fermanagh. I think they will shock the mushroom men who are totally over rated in my opinion.

You would get more enjoyment outta that anyway.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on April 24, 2008, 05:30:25 PM
Can anyone shed any light on the supposed foul up with the Under 21 draw this year? Hearing talk of it having to be done again as Drumalee were put in the wrong division, division 1 instead of 2.
Anyone else have the fixtures for the junior b, c and d championships?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on April 25, 2008, 09:09:58 AM
Cavan Junior team drew with Kildare Wednesday evening.  Hear they only had 16 players because of lads away in college. Trevor Crowe centre half back and sean maguire midfield was all i heard off , anyone know who else is on the team.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on April 25, 2008, 06:38:33 PM
From Hoganstand. Who could have forseen such behaviour the big K:...........................Players such as Nicholas Walsh, Martin Cahill (Denn) and Darren Rabbitte (Cavan Gaels) are back in training with the county panel and can expect to get a run-out in these challenge games.........................................


So two of the three are back and morale amongst the fringe players must be as low as Keoghan's integrity. I can almost see the next few weeks unfolding. What chance a recall for Larry & The Gunner with none of our midfielders from the league starting against Antrim. Rabitte will come in at full-back having not played this year yet as will Cahill, Walsh & Larry. Fanin, Cunningham et al will pack it in due to the treatmeant they've received and we'll lose the back-door game to Clare.

C'mon, I know it's childish but Spirits need a-lifting.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on April 25, 2008, 07:35:22 PM
Well ya definetely couldnt blame anyone called in to the panel at this late stage for going in.Anybody on the Championship panel gets the £2500 grant.Not bad cash after having a handy enough Winter and Spring without pre-season county training.
Didnt hear anything about the c**k-up with the U-21 draw,but it wouldnt suprise ya would it.Like any Board that could pick Keoghan as Senior manager couldnt hardly b relied upon.
The one good thing about this year if ya could call it that is that we are expecting absolutely NOTHING from this summer,compared to some other years.So at least when we (probably) fail we wont really b that disappointed.Thats about the only positives I can take from the whole situation-Sad isnt it. ???
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on April 26, 2008, 10:45:47 AM
Speaking of the grant i heard the great one encouraged a player to come in 2 weeks ago by promise of the grant.  player - "No Donal i have no interest i just want to play with club "   Mr K -" sure come in for a few weeks u will get the grant"   player - "ok"
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: 5 Sams on April 28, 2008, 11:33:10 AM
Just got this from O'Neills....new Cavan jersey

http://www.oneills.com/news/newsletter.php?ID=34
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on April 28, 2008, 11:40:49 AM
I hate the way O'Neills are taking liberties by adding strange colours to county shirts.

Navy on the Cavan jersey?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on April 28, 2008, 01:41:32 PM
I imagine the county board must also sanction it, hence the silly design and change in colour. I suppose it looks nice enough but i would prefer a traditional design myself.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on April 28, 2008, 02:34:43 PM
its a nice jersey, for all the good it will do us when we are out of the championship within the next month and a half.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on April 28, 2008, 05:44:25 PM
I stayed at home to watch the foreign sports yesterday,Munster-(now theres lads that play as a team) and Everton(5th spot thank U very much) but my Dad was mental enough to head up to watch our Senior stars play Sligo in Blacklion.They were on the way home from a training wkend in Donegal.They supposedly trained 3 times on Saturday.Reminds me of a big cramming session coming up to a big exam on a subject that you'v done F*** all for all year!!
Very poor performance,going thru the motions really.Final score was 2-18 to 4-7 to Sligo.(Did they not just get relegated to Div.4)
Team was Carolan Colm Hannon Rabitte and Fannin,Crowe Rory Dunne Brides,McDonald and Walsh,Forde Cullivan ?,Pierson Sean Brady and Mackey.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: shotstopper1 on April 28, 2008, 06:02:19 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on April 28, 2008, 02:34:43 PM
its a nice jersey, for all the good it will do us when we are out of the championship within the next month and a half.

See O'Neills think that also, as the Cavan Jersey is €37 whilst the others are €31
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on April 28, 2008, 07:14:25 PM
think il pass,
il just ask Sean or Ray for one for about 25-30 quid.  :P
Boojangles, no-one can ever dispute what a gael your da is, travelling 50 mile to see a challenge match.
Training 3 times on a saturday on a training weekend,if theres a problem with fitness now that they have to train 3 times a day,then we are in big trouble,
They should have all the hard work done by now as all the other county teams do and be concentrating on sharpness and speed training.Then again most teams dont have to run all those pints off at this time of year  >:(

Carolan Colm Hannon Rabitte and Fannin,Crowe Rory Dunne Brides,McDonald and Walsh,Forde Cullivan ?,Pierson Sean Brady and Mackey

conceding 2-18 really is desperate stuff
From how i see it

James Carolan
Colm Hannon
Rory Dunne
Michael McDonald
Cian Mackey
will all be definite subs against Antrim

Rabbitte
Walsh and Ray depend on fitness,

Keith Fannin
Johnny Crowe
Michael Brides
Forde
Pierson
Sean Brady
are probable starters

depending on strength of Sligo team of course, i wouldnt be that worried about losing these games.




Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on April 29, 2008, 10:58:55 AM
Match report from the Hoganstand. It seems like the hoganstand is becoming the celt when it comes to match reporting. Apparantley Cavan came into the game in the 2nd half when at one point they were 11 points down, yet they were only 3 down at half time. Sean Brady either scored 2-4 or 2-2....

Cavan lose to Sligo
29 April 2008


The senior county sides of Cavan and Sligo continued their preparations for their respective provincial championship competitions when they met in a challenge game on Sunday, April 27th to mark the official opening of Shannon Gaels GFC redeveloped Park, Pairc Ghaeil na Sionnainne in Blacklion.

Both sides fielded experimental sides on this occasion, and after a high-scoring and enjoyable encounter it was the reigning Connacht champions, Sligo who came out on top on a scoreline of 2-19 to 4-7.

Both sides go into the championship campaign on the back of disappointing league campaigns which saw Cavan return to Division Three football next season, while Sligo will be playing their league football in the fourth division next season.

Sligo dominated this game on Sunday from start to finish and at one stage in the game they were ahead by 11 points. The Breffni side came more into the game in the second-half after the Yeats county had led at the break by 0-9 to 2-2.

The game saw the return to competitive action of the Cavan Gaels duo of defender, Darren Rabbitte and midfielder, Nicholas Walsh. However, Walsh retired from the action towards the end of the first-half to be replaced while Rabbitte's return will give the Breffni management some defensive options ahead of the Antrim game. Castlerahan's Sean Brady also made a return to county action in the full-forward line and contributed 2-4 to the Cavan sides tally.

The Sligo side had the better of the third quarter and goals from Sean Davey and Gary Gaughan left them in a strong position leading by 2-11 to 2-2. The Breffni side finished the game strongly and reduced the leeway to five points at the finish. However, over the hour Sligo were the superior side and had the satisfaction of finishing the game with the final score of the game - a point from Daniel Davey.

Cavan play Meath in their final challenge game before the Ulster senior football championship game with Antrim in Ashbourne on Sunday next at 6 p.m. when it is hoped that the Cavan management will be in a position to field a much stronger side, and go all out for a morale-boosting victory ahead of the Antrim game in the coming weeks.

Cavan - James Carolan; Colm Hannon, Darren Rabbitte, Keith Fannin; Jonathan Crowe, Rory Dunne, Michael Brides; Michael McDonald (1-1), Nicholas Walsh; Anthony Forde, Raymond Cullivan, Martin Cahill; Cian Mackey (1-2), Sean Brady (2-2), Gerald Pearson.
Subs - Lorcan Mulvey for Nicholas Walsh), Ronan Flanagan for Anthony Forde (half-time), Dermot Sheridan for Michael Brides, Eddie Reilly for Jonathan Crowe, John Cunningham (0-1) for Lorcan Mulvey, Jason Reilly (0-1) for Gerald Pearson, Declan Gaffney for Sean Brady.

Sligo - Thomas Jordan; Jason Farrell, Niall Ewing, Pat Naughton; Ross Donovan, Eoin McHugh (0-1), Brendan Philips; Paul McGovern, Brendan Egan; Sean Davey (1-1), Gary Gaughan (1-2), Kenneth Sweeney; Daniel Davey (0-4), Eamonn Cawley (0-4) John. Davey (0-3), David Kelly (0-4).
Subs - S. Henry for B. Egan, L. Bree for E. McHugh.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Hollow Man on April 30, 2008, 11:57:01 AM
Normally you can have a stab at the championship 15 round this time but it's impossible this year.

Imagine trying to pick the midfield for example. It could be any two from:

McCabe
Mulvey
Walsh
Cunningham
Gaffney
McDonald

with only McCabe any better than the rest.

Then in the full forward line, Keogan is persisting with Mackey (who apparently went on the beer before the u21 debacle then was dropped then recalled), so it looks like any two from Mackey, Pierson, Eddie and Jason along with Johnston.

What odds someone completely new to join the panel yet and make a championship appearance? Quite likely I would think...


My team would be

Reilly

Hannon
Rabbitt
Brides/Fannin

Sheridan
Podge
Flanagan

McCabe
Walsh


McKeever
Forde
Sean Brady

Pierson
Johnston
Eddie Reilly

Who am I forgetting? Is Cullivan on the panel?

Chances are Martin Cahill will start - I also wouldnt rule out Keogan starting some of his favourites like Crowe (a poor man's Dermot Sheridan in my opinion), McCutcheon, Mackey...

Rory Dunne to get a game around midfield too, ya heard it here first.

I have a feeling that this will be a very short summer, and that Keogan will still be manager this time next year.







Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on April 30, 2008, 12:38:45 PM
Quote from: Hollow Man on April 30, 2008, 11:57:01 AM
Normally you can have a stab at the championship 15 round this time but it's impossible this year.

Imagine trying to pick the midfield for example. It could be any two from:

McCabe
Mulvey
Walsh
Cunningham
Gaffney
McDonald

with only McCabe any better than the rest.

Then in the full forward line, Keogan is persisting with Mackey (who apparently went on the beer before the u21 debacle then was dropped then recalled), so it looks like any two from Mackey, Pierson, Eddie and Jason along with Johnston.

What odds someone completely new to join the panel yet and make a championship appearance? Quite likely I would think...


My team would be

Reilly

Hannon
Rabbitt
Brides/Fannin

Sheridan
Podge
Flanagan

McCabe
Walsh


McKeever
Forde
Sean Brady

Pierson
Johnston
Eddie Reilly

Who am I forgetting? Is Cullivan on the panel?

Chances are Martin Cahill will start - I also wouldnt rule out Keogan starting some of his favourites like Crowe (a poor man's Dermot Sheridan in my opinion), McCutcheon, Mackey...

Rory Dunne to get a game around midfield too, ya heard it here first.

I have a feeling that this will be a very short summer, and that Keogan will still be manager this time next year.









If he is still manager I am going to lead an angry mob to the imperial for a hanging :( Only Joking before I get banned or something. Team is impossible to pick. I mean, the team above from our 2nd last match before Antrim is basically a reserve team from those starting in the league. I think we need a new plan. Johnstone will be double marked by Antrim and will be removed as the level of  threat he can be. I know midfield is a mess but I'd guve serious thought to putting mcCabe at FF and leaving Johnstone inside with him with maybe Pierson. I think maybe Walsh and McDonald midfield (scored 1-1 against sligo but lets see how he does in next game vrs Meath). I think McKeever is suspended so he'll probably be replaced by Crowe or maybe Cahill. Rabbitte played FB against sligo and look at the score that went in, maybe it wasn't his fault I suppose. Feck it - i don't really know who will play where after that.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: thejuice on April 30, 2008, 02:36:41 PM
The Cavan senior footballers have their final challenge game in preparation for the Ulster championship meeting with Antrim in Casement Park, Belfast on Sunday 18th May when they meet old rivals Meath on Sunday 4th May to mark the official opening of the Donaghmore/Ashbourne club's impressive new facilities at Ashbourne at 6pm.

After their defeat by Sligo at the opening of the re-developed grounds of the Shannon Gaels GFC, Blacklion the Breffni side will be hoping for a morale-boosting win against their near-neghbours and keen rivals down the years. According to reports both team-managements will be fielding their strongest available sides for this challenge, although the Royal county will be without a number of key players - currently serving suspension after the recent Dublin v Meath NFL Division Two encounter in Parnell Park, Dublin

With places up for grabs on both sides, Sunday evenings game should be very competitive and interesting, and the local Donaghmore/Ashbourne Club G.F.C. are hoping for a big crowd - with many Dublin-based Cavan folk hopefully making the trip out to the Ashbourne venue to see the current fitness and form of their side ahead of the Ulster championship clash with Antrim in a few weeks time.

Over §6.5m has been spent on the facilities which includes a pavilion with bar and functions room, ten dressingrooms, an indoor arena with an artificial surface, as well as two full-size pitches and two juvenile pitches.

Also provided is weights room and bar and functions room. With such outstanding facilities the Donaghmore/Ashbourne GFC are very much geared for a successful future.

The Cavan v Meath SF challenge has a 6.30 p.m. start.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on May 03, 2008, 03:51:54 PM
we lost to Lacken last night i think it was 1-11 to 2-7 but dont hold me to it,
Crucially for the county,

Ray Cullivan came off just after half time, and was heavily bandaged before the game,he has to be a major doubt for any championship football this year.

Ray Galligan was immaculate for Lacken from frees,
he has to start if only for his free taking and he was good from open play as well.

Trevor Crowe was sent off after a tussle with Barry McCrudden.

we were poor,we are going to get a hammering by Drumalee next week  :(
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on May 05, 2008, 07:15:56 PM
I wouldnt count on that BH man,bet by Denn yesterday,went 6 points up with bout 15 minutes to go but let it slip and got bet by 3 points.We'r still missing a fair few but have to start picking up points again.Next Saturdays game is crucial for both of us.
I missed a humdinger of a match in Terry Coyle Friday evening by all accounts,any other results?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on May 05, 2008, 08:23:53 PM
 Cuchullains beat K'Garry in Crubery

Gowna beat Castlerahan well

Ballinagh beat Crosserlough 0-13 to 0-10

Belturbet beat Lavey

Lacken beat us it was 1-12 to 2-06 actually

obviously Denn Bet Yourselves

Gaels 2-10 Mullahoran 2-10

think thats it.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Rollout on May 05, 2008, 08:58:58 PM
Congratulations to Paul Brady who won the senior all ireland at the weekend. This win makes it 4 in a row and 5 in 6 years.

Its been an extrordinary season for Cavan Handballers this year with Paul and Michael Finnegan winning the senior doubles recently along with Padraig Cahill and Pat Clerkin taking all ireland Junior B honours. Pat Clerkin also won the singles Junior B alli reland while Kingscourts Roisin Faulkner won the Intermediate singles last weekend.

The newly formed St Pats handball club is busy developing the facilities in the college in Cavan and training up a new generation of players.

A doubles tournament for underage and junior grade players is being organised for 24th & 25th May. For more info see

www.cavan.handball.gaa.ie
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on May 05, 2008, 09:10:26 PM
Quote from: Rollout on May 05, 2008, 08:58:58 PM
Congratulations to Paul Brady who won the senior all ireland at the weekend. This win makes it 4 in a row and 5 in 6 years.

Its been an extrordinary season for Cavan Handballers this year with Paul and Michael Finnegan winning the senior doubles recently along with Padraig Cahill and Pat Clerkin taking all ireland Junior B honours. Pat Clerkin also won the singles Junior B alli reland while Kingscourts Roisin Faulkner won the Intermediate singles last weekend.

The newly formed St Pats handball club is busy developing the facilities in the college in Cavan and training up a new generation of players.

A doubles tournament for underage and junior grade players is being organised for 24th & 25th May. For more info see

www.cavan.handball.gaa.ie


Congratulations to Gunner, Michael Finnegan,Paddy Clerkin, pauric cahill and Roisin Faulkner(some good sporting genes in that family  id say) Gunner really is a terrific athlete.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Handball Ace on May 06, 2008, 12:32:33 PM
Yeah, very well done and congrats to Paul Brady and the other winners.

Cavan won six All Irelands in all, and will fancy their chances of another couple before the year is out.

Also, the Cavan 40x20 doubles championship is on in a couple of weeks. The St Patrick's club are trying to encourage fellas who played handball in St Pats to take it up again - they will be very welcome at this tournament, there will eb plenty of grades so beginners etc won't be playing Brady or Clerkin in the first round.

Good work on the website Rollout
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Handball Ace on May 06, 2008, 12:33:31 PM
We may as well support the handballers because the footballers and hurlers don't look like winning anythign any time soon...
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: thejuice on May 06, 2008, 12:39:36 PM
Cavan won the challenge match against Meath on Sunday in Ashbourne, 0-16 to 0-15, from what I hear it was 2 experimental sides and played mid-tempo, Although I heard Meath were down by 8 points at one stage still hard to put value on it.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on May 06, 2008, 01:23:04 PM
From Hoganstand. Cavan fielding a near championship team versus Meaths reserves. Interesting again to see McDonald scoring 0-3, he also got 1-02 against Sligo which isn't bad for an untried player. I don't know much about the lad but he seems to be playing himself into a starting roll against Antrim. Question is, why wasn't he on the panel earlier in the year. Rabbitte looking like starting at FB but surely he should have been playing some matches before now. Half back line looks weak enough too. No sign of Forde at match

Meath 0-15
Cavan 0-16

Monday 5th May saw Cavan defeat Meath by the minimum margin in a challenge game which marked the opening of new facilities by the Ashbourne/Donaghmore club.

The huge crowed which attended the unveiling of the Meath club's grounds were treated to a free-flowing game of football with Donal Keogan's side coming out on top with a more smooth style of football, which helped them build up a seven point lead in the second-half.

Meath manager Colm Coyle put out a somewhat experimental side to face the Breffni County with nearly all of the squad participating in the county's Club Championships over the weekend.

The last time the two sides met was in league action earlier on in the year where a superb second-half performance saw the Royal County overcome at seven-point deficit to win by two points in Navan.

It was 11 minutes before the first score was on the board and when it arrived Cavan centre-forward Ronan Flanagan was the one to raise the first white flag for Donal Keogan's charges.

Jason O'Reilly thumped over a second for the visitors but a pair of Brian Sheridan frees in response levelled the sides.

Cavan came into a good spell soon after with Jason O'Reilly, Gerald Pierson and Michael McDonald all pointing for their side which was followed up by midfielder Dermot McCabe sending over a long-range trademark effort with his left boot.

The hosts replied through points from Brian Sheridan, David Morgan and Joe Sheridan in the closing stages of the half but it was Cavan who would take in a three point lead the interval, with the scores reading 0-8 to 0-5 at half-time in favour of the visitors.

Cavan began the second-half brightly with substitute Sean Johnston and Gerald Pierson firing over two more for the visitors.

Brian Sheridan, who finished the contest as top-scores with 0-7, done his best to pull his side level but Cavan more accuracy from Johnston and Pierson along with Michael McDonald and Martin Reilly saw Cavan take a seven point advantage towards the closing stages.

Points from Sheridan and David Morgan helped reduce the gap but it was Cavan who held out for a one point victory come Pat McEneaney's full time whistle.
Teams:

Meath: Mick Ahern; Chris O'Connor, Cormac McGill, Brian O'Reilly; Alan Nestor, Colm O'Mealoid, Terry Skelly; Rory O'Connor, Damien Sheridan; Ciaran Kelly, Brian Meade (0-2); Tadgh Brosnan; Brian Sheridan (0-7), Joe Sheridan (0-1), David Morgan (0-2) . Subs: Eoghan Harrington for Terry Skelly, Shane Carr for Cormac McGill, Mark Ward for Rory O'Connor, Cian Ward (0-1) for Damien Sheridan, Paddy O'Rourke for Mick Ahern, Graham Geraghty (0-1) for Ciaran Kelly, John Tully for Tadgh Brosnan

Cavan: James Reilly; Michael Hannon, Darren Rabbitte, Padraig O'Reilly; Barry Watters, Jonathon Crowe, Martin Cahill; Michael McDonald (0-3), Dermot McCabe (0-1); Martin Reilly (0-1), Ronan Flanagan (0-1), Gerald Pierson (0-5); Cian Mackey, Sean Brady, Jason O'Reilly (0-2). Subs: Sean Johnston (0-3) for Cian Mackey

Referee: Pat McEneaney (Monaghan)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on May 06, 2008, 02:10:03 PM
Was very suprised to hear last nite that Paul the Gunner is back in on the Senior panel.Apparentley Keoghan told him that he would b a definite starter for the Championship,Gunner has made it clear that Handball comes first.He trained last Thursday I believe.
Ah the whole set-up seems a shambles.Like how do the boys that have trained all year feel? I know that Paul is good enough obviously but it does no good to overall team morale for lads being brought straight in to the team at this stage of the year.
Interesting to see Pierson as a wing-forward,Keoghan definetely wasnt getting near the best out of him in the corner.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on May 06, 2008, 02:48:56 PM
Quote from: boojangles on May 06, 2008, 02:10:03 PM
Was very suprised to hear last nite that Paul the Gunner is back in on the Senior panel.Apparentley Keoghan told him that he would b a definite starter for the Championship,Gunner has made it clear that Handball comes first.He trained last Thursday I believe.
Ah the whole set-up seems a shambles.Like how do the boys that have trained all year feel? I know that Paul is good enough obviously but it does no good to overall team morale for lads being brought straight in to the team at this stage of the year.
Interesting to see Pierson as a wing-forward,Keoghan definetely wasnt getting near the best out of him in the corner.

Are you only finding this out now???

Course your not but nothing shocks me with them anymore.  Is there many heading up on the 18th??
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on May 06, 2008, 03:12:39 PM
I'll be heading up out of habit and nothing else. Don't hold up much hope of a win - Antrims management team have a 2/3 year plan to make progress and I expect this game is a big target for them. We are mentally and tactically weak and if they put it up to us we will crumble. Are the minors out the same day?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: LaurelEye on May 06, 2008, 08:01:25 PM
Quote from: boojangles on May 06, 2008, 02:10:03 PM
Was very suprised to hear last nite that Paul the Gunner is back in on the Senior panel.Apparentley Keoghan told him that he would b a definite starter for the Championship

That would be all of the "Chicago Three" back then, wouldn't it? The three fellas who were never going to pull on a Cavan jersey again as long as Keogan was in charge?

As a Longfordman, all I'll say is that Cavan are a great comfort to us this year :)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4sam on May 07, 2008, 11:11:13 AM
Any1 have any report from the game against meath? Any of you guys make the trip?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on May 07, 2008, 05:12:22 PM
myles posted it earlier on this page C4sam
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4sam on May 07, 2008, 07:18:36 PM
Yea i seen that but i wanted the opinion of some of our guys on here who may have bn at it, might be able to give us some info on what player did well etc. Meath had a second string team out yet we only won by a point, we really are in dire straits, the sooner the county get knocked out the better, at least we wil get our county boys back playing for us. playin denn this wknd and witout the 3 county men i cant see us getting anythin out of the match.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on May 09, 2008, 01:11:55 PM
I hear we beat Carlow in a challenge 3-13 to 0-14. Anyone have any info on it. Jaysus lads, we are out in the championship in just over a week and no chat out of us at all. The man in charge is a muppet but we'll have to give the team support on the day anyway, for the sake of the players that did bust a gut since last November.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on May 09, 2008, 01:28:31 PM
On the contrary perhaps offering no support might be a better move. Let me explain. My guess is that we could have as many as 4 players starting against Antrim who haven't played competitively for the county this year. I talk of Rabbitte, Walsh, Cahill, & Gunner. Now I don't need to explain what this will do to the lads on the bench. It reeks of SHITE. The same shite that McElkennon was guilty off a few years back when he hauled Peter Reilly & McKeever from the stands, the latter of which wasn't deemed dedicated enough the previous January. Quick fix bullshit at best, at worst an embaressment for all concerned. He's gone completely back on his words about the Chicago 3 and we're supposed to be happy if we succeed. I follow the county everywhere but I cannot envisage myself being happy even if we do win. I'd rather it was late summer, we were out, we had a new manager who was looking round the county for talent and character for next year.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on May 09, 2008, 02:26:07 PM
Lawrence..........a new manager looking around the county for talent and character for next year. New manager????, well we don't seem to have a whole pile of options inside the county at present as in I'm not sure who would want to take it on in the light of the roasting Keogan is getting (some ,but not all of which is justified in my opinion). So who from outside the county, John Maughan is at a loose end, Paidi (although be warned the lad likes a drink which might rule him out among some of us zealots), Mattie Kerrigan? Liam Austin.

My point is that we've tried new managers maybe it's the availability of players of talent and character where we have fallen a bit short. And you can't totally blame Keogan on that front, he's certainly trawled players during the league, and ok I agree that his chopping and changing at midfield, to take one area, has been a bit of a bloody joke, but it's not as if the next Stephen King or Dermot McCabe is exactly staring us all in the face. So now we are faced with the potential recall of the "old guard" for the first round of the championship and I'm glad Lawrence pointed out the DK doesn't have the monopoly on that particular trick, as in witness the joke of McIlkennons playing of just about the least fit team in Ireland a couple of years ago in some bloody championship game or other.

So there we have it, bit of a bloody shambles but sometimes we cavan lads are a bit too inward looking I reckon. Look at the Laois camp with all it's underage talent of many years ago and the comings and goings. Any number of other cases of players being called up into panels at late stages. What's the betting on Kieran McDonald wearing the Green and Red before this summer is out?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on May 09, 2008, 02:30:28 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on May 09, 2008, 01:11:55 PM
I hear we beat Carlow in a challenge 3-13 to 0-14. Anyone have any info on it. Jaysus lads, we are out in the championship in just over a week and no chat out of us at all. The man in charge is a muppet but we'll have to give the team support on the day anyway, for the sake of the players that did bust a gut since last November.

Won by a point and very lucky according to player i was talking to. 
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on May 09, 2008, 03:07:35 PM
Anglocelt - What criticism of him is unjustified? As far as I am concerned he has failed on everyone of the basic principles of management...

Results (to date) - Failed
Player Motivation - Failed
Player Discipline - Failed
Search for new talent - We might be short on talent but surely McDonald from Drumgoon is coming in a bit late now. Waters, m Reilly are too young and light. Chesty, we know the rumours. Chicago 3 - what a total joke. For me - Failed.

I agree with what Lawrence says to a point but at the end of the day there are a large proportion of good Cavan men who have worked hard for the team and deserve our support against Antrim, in spite of the manager.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on May 09, 2008, 03:25:13 PM
By not showing up Myles the good Cavan men may unsderstand that the GAA fans in the county aren't going to be part of this shambles. The players, both those being wronged and those in the wrong, may take note as may the county board. Anglo-Celt, I'm not saying there's a line of managers to pick from but that's not the point. To put up with a fool who has no respect or pride in himself (by calling in these players late) and lacking in so many other areas is wrong. We might as well give any of us the job as well as him. Surely there's a decent club manager with some principles that could take a long term view, select a panel with a relatively young average and build over a number of years. Football fans aren't (all) stupid. They'll put up with loss and appreciate the long-term goal if it's clear to see. By the way I assume this Chesty stuff is the big taboo of a few weeks ago on here. Well I'm still none the wiser and I don't care to be honest.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on May 09, 2008, 06:08:56 PM
Jesus lads I know alot of people were glad to see the back of McElkannon as Cavan manager and they were probly right but I wouldnt ever put McElkannon and DK in the same sentence.If DK had even quarter of the know-how on team preparation,motivation,coaching or even tactics then we wouldnt b in this mess we'r in now.I dont wanna b bringing it all back up but the County Board should have had the foresight to hold on to McElkannon as Coach.The best in the business as far as Im concerned.
As for not supporting Cavan on the 18th,I just dont think I could do that.As much as I hate DK and the whole set-up,the lads representing us on the field against Antrim deserve our support.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on May 09, 2008, 06:30:46 PM
I have never, and I mean NEVER been so wholly disinterested in football so close to the championship in my entire life.

DK is a clown who was appointed by buffoons to preside over a shambles and he's turned it into a farce. That's about it in a nutshell for me. Pardon the mixed metaphors but this year had write off written all over it from early on. DK brought passion and interest to the job like we knew he would but that's all - the glaring lack of craft on the sideline and in the dressing room is all too apparent.

The real culprits here are the county board though, that's what really annoys me most, you can't blame DK for taking the job if they were stupid and short-sighted enough i.e. €, to offer it to him.

Long-term view, start from scratch approach with a new manager that ticks all the necessary boxes is what's required now, else we may c**k our arse to it and forget about it.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on May 09, 2008, 06:56:56 PM
what cavan maniac said.....................and perhaps it was unfair to compare McElkennon to Keoghan but the happenings of the last two weeks are extremely similar. Anyway, the way I heard it was that McElkennon was a good coach but not the greatest tactician in the world.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on May 10, 2008, 01:32:12 AM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on May 09, 2008, 03:07:35 PM
Anglocelt - What criticism of him is unjustified? As far as I am concerned he has failed on everyone of the basic principles of management...

Results (to date) - Failed
Player Motivation - Failed
Player Discipline - Failed
Search for new talent - We might be short on talent but surely McDonald from Drumgoon is coming in a bit late now. Waters, m Reilly are too young and light. Chesty, we know the rumours. Chicago 3 - what a total joke. For me - Failed.

I agree with what Lawrence says to a point but at the end of the day there are a large proportion of good Cavan men who have worked hard for the team and deserve our support against Antrim, in spite of the manager.


So Myles, first things first I was among a number of people who questioned the Keogan/Grimley appointment as regards the general management setup implied who was in charge etc. etc. There were plenty willing to support the appointment at the time on this site on a number of bases mostly along the lines of we've had enough of being bled dry by out of county goldiggers etc. so lets go along with it for a while and see what happens sez I.

You reckon he's been a failure on results, player motivation and discipline, let's boil that down to results which will reflect motivation and discipline. Well lets be fair now, relative to McHugh he deserves to be whipped to within an inch of his life. Austin, Andrews, Kerrigan, Coleman (RIP), McIlkennon? I'm not so sure. Boojangles reckons McIlkennon was some man and who am I to argue. I saw us struggle seriously under Marty's tenure against Tipp/Carlow/Wicklow before the Waterford end of league issue. Much and all as it might sicken you Myles Keogan presided over us coming out of that division. We've competed unsuccessfullly against Armagh, Monaghan, Dublin, Meath, Westmeath (division 2 champions) this year. Interestingly I have never seen this board as quiet as the week after we beat last years all Ireland Finalists. Possibly what John Maughan would have referred to as a "customer issue" over in Roscommon.

So Myles the one issue we are left with it Keogans abject failure in the search for new talent. Now I'm long out of the locaL scene so can you point me out the budding talents he has ignored that would make a serious difference over the next few weeks? And for god's sake leave Trevor Crowe out of the equation since that issue has been done to death at this stage. While you are at it leave Anthony Gaynor out of it since he hasn't set the world on fire for his club over the last several months.

Look, bottom line, I have no doubt that there might be somebody, somewhere, who could achieve slighly better results than what we have under the current setup, but who is that person and what the degree of improvement is i don't really know. Myles, I think it might have been you who suggested a few weeks ago that we replace the current bossman with SOMEBODY  and bring Anthony Gaynor back into the panel. If that's the short term answer I'm damned if I'm sure what the question is.



Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on May 10, 2008, 12:14:08 PM
Fair enought Thatstheball so let's get rid of Keogan, then what, exactly. If somebody dropped in from outer space and read some of the postings on here they could be forgiven for thinking that he has inherited an Ulster Championship winning panel with a conveyor belt of successful underage teams to back them up. People banging on about Keogan to the exclusion of all the other issues with the county set up is convenient lazy analysis. No doubt there will be somebody else to bitch about in a few years time.

So Thatstheball I'm in agreement the Keogan is not be the best that there is out there, now would you be willing to consider a few things in return, namely:
1. The talent mightn't be the absolute best there is, not in terms of a panel of 26/30 players anyway;
2. The dedication levels of a few lads on the panel might not be at a level seen in other counties and, MOST IMPORTANTLY, that some of these blokes have had those issues long before the current management team came into being; and
3. The attitude of some of the more senior panel members might not be overly conducive to building a winning setup.

And before you come back with the reasonable argument that it's up to Keogan to deal with the players in the panel, it might be worth adding that some of the guys in question were indulged in their habits by a  number of management teams.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on May 10, 2008, 12:30:15 PM
Anglocelt - i agree that the players are not there to make us a power that we once were. But I do believe that we have sufficient players to achieve what the likes of Westmeath achieved this year. I think we can be a decent 2nd tier team and build from there. Do be a decent 2nd tier team you need a smattering of class around the field and good solid workers around them. I look at the likes of Westmeath, Fermanagh etc and I see teams that player for player we are well capable of matching - Is that unreasonable.
You made some other comments on the issues I'd like to pull you up on. I was totally against Keoghan getting the job as was nearly everyone on the board. I think only Maniac was in favour and that was a hesitant "yes" based on Grimley being there with him (Correct me if I am wrong Maniac). McElhennon has showed that he was a excellent trainer but maybe not a great manager. The year he didn't get us out of Div2 (waterford defeat) we struggled to win games well, but we had an unbelievable injury crisis that year. Andrews was a decent manager and we reached a Div 1 league final under him, but he never seemed to get it tactically right for the championship. Coleman was the best since McHugh. Thatstheball is right in my opinion in that there is simply no comparison between Keoghan and any one of these. I also don't accept your point that the board was very quiet after the Cork game - you seem to be implying we were disappointed that we won. The board has been very quiet for a good while now and that is down to depression with the current set up.
Anyway, I don't intend to continue repeating myself on these issues. I think everyones view has been put forward at this stage so lets hope for a win next Sunday and see what happens after that. I am glad to see there is no great optimism in Antrim either.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on May 10, 2008, 01:03:03 PM
Fair bit of sense in what you say there all right Myles. I'll just pull you up no one thing though, there was PLENTY of support for DK on this board at the time of the appointment. I remember it well for taking plenty of stick for Comparing the management team of himself and the other fella to a Staunton/Robson type setup. Anway, can't be bothered splitting hairs any more, it's the weekend, here's hoping..........
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on May 10, 2008, 03:44:52 PM
I was initially dead set against DK alright but was prepared to reluctantly give him a chance on the basis that Grimley was there with him to hold his hand, and also on the basis that it wasn't right to bury him totally before he'd even started. Once Grimley went, I kinda knew it was curtains for DK although there was rumour of some Tyrone lad coming on board to assist (?). I know we eventually lost the replay against Down last year but I felt our tactics were spot on that day, with only the sending off really tipping it in Down's favour before the end - tactics with Grimley's autograph all over them, tactics that DK wouldn't have come up with himself in a million years. Once that intelligence was gone off the sideline we were, quite simply, always going to be banjaxed.

But there's so many elements wrong with the set up at the moment, from county board, to manager, to player commitment, discipline, morale, supporter apathy, you name it, that the only thing to do is take a wrecking ball to the whole edifice. The county board committee that appointed Keogan should never be allowed have anything to do with another appointment ever again. I know prime candidates aren't dripping from the branches out there but that's no reason to persist with the current untenable situation either. Doing nothing is not an option.

With a new manager in place, again I say the county panel should be disbanded and with no recourse to profile/big names etc., only those prepared to sign up to a code of conduct and committment are allowed in, and if they don't stick to it, out they go. End of story. I know it's a voluntary sport and so on, and these guys are amateur, but that's no reason to accept our lads being more amateur than all the other counties. Everyone joining the panel would do so fully aware of what's being asked and if they find they can't live with it, then they're free to leave with everyone's thanks for their efforts. At most, we'd roughly lose 7/8 off the current panel and you'd be surprised how much some of the other ambitious lads actually crave a decent structure and would respond with an extra 20% in a proper, disciplined set up where they can see things are progressing.

But if we have to build with raw youth and accept a few more lean years, it'd be better than sticking with the way we do things now and still have lean years, just with no prospect of it changing down the road. At least if we start anew we'll be in a healthy position inside 2/3 years, unlike now where we're just eating ourselves away slowly from the inside out.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on May 10, 2008, 03:49:55 PM
Andrews was a decent manager and we reached a Div 1 league final under him,
Sorry to nitpick Myles but we reached the Division 1 league final under Kerrigan.We reached the 01 Ulster final under Andrews.
Anglocelt-I agree with alot of your points but basically 2 wrongs dont make a right.Some players have an attitude problem and I agree whatever manager is over them we mite never see the best out of them but DK was never the right man to get the best out of any group of players.The County Board are a disgrace to appoint him which I have stated before.There is so much wrong with Cavan football at the moment and I mite b retired before alot of the problems are sorted.
But we have the players to at least compete in Division 2.I wouldnt see much difference in the talent we have compared to Monaghan,Westmeath,Fermanagh.None of the these counties have won anythin at Underage in the last 10 years either.Nobody is expecting us to win Ulster but the least we could ask for is for our County team to play to its potential,like it did under Coleman (most of the time).
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: gortnaleck on May 10, 2008, 05:41:13 PM
I think Cavan were very competitive in the League this year except for the Monaghan game and on another day a few of those results could be reversed,including the Cork one.We do not have better players in the county who want to play for Cavan or they would be out there.I think we have any amount of good footballers  in what I would call the 2nd level,who would be interchangeable without much drop in performance.Cavan,and every team i suppose,need the couple of superstars.Two freetakers  would be nice too and not five or six.A bit of luck would be good as only for it we'd be still talking about 1969 and the useless manager McHugh was as well as the rest of our managers.!!!!!!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on May 10, 2008, 11:44:19 PM
Any results from any of the league games this evening? we beat Shercock by 3 points or so... heard Killeshandra were beaten by Drumalane
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on May 11, 2008, 02:00:58 AM
Boooooooooojangles i can seeeee you pe\king in  :P  :D  :D  :D  :D

you had a very solid game yerself though if it is any consolationm.

Boys wer goign to win SAM!!! i can feel it.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: CC1 on May 11, 2008, 02:25:39 AM
Quote from: Celt_Man on May 10, 2008, 11:44:19 PM
Any results from any of the league games this evening? we beat Shercock by 3 points or so... heard Killeshandra were beaten by Drumalane
Absolutely sickened. We missed so many chances. Your lads were making some serious runs forward though. Colm Smith scored two or three great points and McCutcheon was too much for our makeshift midfield. Our forwards were our downfall... again...
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on May 11, 2008, 02:58:48 PM
Well done BH Man,better and fitter team won.Were ya playin yourself?Ah I dont really wanna talk about it but we need a serious big mirror in our dressingrooms.Gaffney and Enda McCormack were very poor and our midfield made BarryMcCrudden look like an All-Star.The game turned after the penalty,I kno I gave it away but I was left in a bit of a spot after Heffos blunder.Where was Gerry O Rourke?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on May 11, 2008, 05:22:03 PM
i was indeed playing,,i think you clattered me a few times,  ye started well,but  faded out of it in the 2nd half,Yas missed Gary Fernacombe  around the centre field area

Hefernan is a good shotstopper, but jaysus hes horrid eccentric, the chances he takes, :D hed give me a heart attack if he were my goalkeeper.

Gerry had personal matters i believe and was away this weekend,he will be delighted im sure.

as for results

Killygarry beat Belturbet 0-09 to 0-08
thats all i know

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on May 12, 2008, 12:20:42 PM
In fairness to Heffernan,I wouldnt swap him for many Goalies in the county,he is a serious shotstopper and his kick-outs are usually great but if he loses the head thats it,mite as well take him off.He loses it every so often and unfortunately it seems to b against Ballyhaise alot.Il never forget the Championship semi against yas in 2005,he came about 40 yards off his line that day a few times.
Ferncombe is a serious loss along with a few others but we still had enough quality I felt to win the game,obviously I was wrong.Ah hopefully when all the lads are home for the summer we'l get some serious training done.
The bottom of Division 1 is starting to look very tight.Think ourselves,yourselves,Belturbet,Gowna and Killygarry are all on 4 points.
Lavey bet Mullahoran,Gaels bet Gowna,Ballinagh bet Lacken, cant remember the rest.
I cant get over how well Lavey are doing,we bet them the 1st day and I really thought they'd struggle.They would have to b Championship favourites at this stage??
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on May 12, 2008, 02:26:50 PM
A hard fought two points for Ballinagh on Saturday in a hard-hitting but low-scoring victory over neighbours Lacken. Patrick Carroll, Damien McInerney and Paul Galligan were on form for us and Darragh McCarthy also providing a fantastic save to keep us on top. Lacken are flying fit and were somewhat hard won by to leave without a point as they looked the hungrier for most of the game but failed to make it count on the scoreboard. One has to wonder have they peaked a little early in the year.

As for the county scene I heard Rabbitte limped off from a training game and looks unlikely to start next Sunday.  :(
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on May 12, 2008, 03:46:57 PM
Id be very wary of Drumgoon for the intermediate Boojangles,

any team with Two Hannons,Keith Fannin,Michael McDonald,Jim McNally and Eddie Jackson along with the Crossans and Paddy McCabe firing on all cylinders would be hard to stop and they seem to be doing well in Division two,

Lavey have started well but the question i have ,is have they peaked too soon,will they have gone stale by the end of july when the championship is in full swing.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: shotstopper1 on May 12, 2008, 04:23:11 PM
I think this is how the tables stand after w/e games,



Div 1               
   PL   W   D   L   Pts
Cuchullains   7   5   1   1   11
Lacken   7   5   0   2   10
Cavan Gael   6   4   1   1   9
Lavey   7   3   2   2   8
Mullahoran   6   3   1   2   7
Denn   6   3   1   2   7
Ballinagh   6   3   0   3   6
Belturbet   5   2   0   3   4
C'lough   6   2   0   4   4
Killygarry   5   2   0   3   4
Ballyhaise   6   2   0   4   4
Gowna   6   2   0   4   4
Drumalee   6   2   0   4   4
Castlerahan   5   1   0   4   2

Div 2               
   PL   W   D   L   Pts
Killeshandra   7   5   0   2   10
Drumgoon   6   5   0   1   10
Ramor Utd   5   4   1   0   9
Redhills   6   4   1   1   9
Knockbride   6   3   2   1   8
Kingscourt   6   3   1   2   7
Drung   5   2   2   1   6
Cavan Gael   7   3   0   4   6
Cootehill   5   2   0   3   4
Drumlane   6   2   0   4   4
Bailieboro   7   2   0   5   4
Shercock   7   2   0   5   4
Killinkere   6   1   1   4   3
Ballymac   7   1   0   6   2

Div 3               
   PL   W   D   L   Pts
Kill   5   5   0   0   10
Shannon G   7   4   1   2   9
Laragh Utd   6   4   1   1   9
Corlough   7   4   1   2   9
Kildallan   6   4   0   2   8
C'lough   5   3   0   2   6
Arva   6   3   0   3   6
Munitir Con   6   1   3   2   5
Templeport   5   2   1   2   5
B'bridge   5   2   0   3   4
M'gent   7   1   2   4   4
Swanlinbar   6   1   1   4   3
Maghera   6   0   3   3   3
Cornafean   6   0   2   4   2
               
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on May 12, 2008, 05:00:10 PM
Jaysus - what is going on with Cornafean. As much as I dislike them  ;) I wouldn't like to see the once kingpins of Cavan football disappear into  the reserve leagues.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on May 12, 2008, 07:02:29 PM
Such happy banter about the club scene. Time to take it down a notch:

Darren Rabbitte has been ruled out of Cavan's Ulster Senior Football Championship opener against Antrim at Casement Park on Sunday.

Rabbitte only returned to action recently following a cruciate ligament injury but he suffered cartilage damage in a recent challenge win over Meath.

The Breffni County are also expected to be without injured Ray Cullivan.

However, Nicholas Walsh and Anthony Forde are available after recovering from hamstring injuries.

While Rabbitte has suffered a further setback, Cavan's medical staff are confident that the player will be available for the county's next championship game after the Antrim clash.

Veteran Dermot McCabe is expected to start at midfield in Belfast while the Breffni County will be hoping that Seanie Johnston can maintain the fine form that he showed during the National League.

Cavan suffered relegation from Division 2 in the league but they did claim a victory over last year's beaten All-Ireland finalists Cork.

In addition, Cavan lost several tight games - including a one-point defeat by Armagh.

   
606: DEBATE
Give your Championship predictions

"The only game that we were well-beaten in was the Monaghan match," Cavan PRO Mark Gillick told BBC Sport Interactive.

"But we know that the game in Belfast is a potential banana skin so we won't be taking them lightly at all.

"We beat Meath in a challenge game recently and we played fairly well so we'll reasonably optimistic."

Johnston will be joined in the squad for the Casement Park clash by Martin Cahill and Paul Brady.

All three infuriated manager Donal Keoghan last summer when they opted to head to the US to play club football instead of remaining with the squad during the All-Ireland qualifiers.

At the time, Keoghan vowed never to pick any of the three players again but all three are now back in contention.

"Donal was very disappointed at the time but Cavan needs to have every footballer available and Donal was big enough to go back on what he said to the media last summer and take them back for the good of the county."



So let's get the guessing game started. Who will be called in to replace Rabitte? I'm going to go with Ciaran Brady.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: North Longford on May 13, 2008, 09:18:11 AM
It appears rumours of th late night lock ins in the Imperial have some substance.........from the horses mouth....

Keoghan backs Cavan against Antrim

May 12, 2008

Cavan boss Donal Keoghan has revealed that he locked his side away the past few weeks as he looks to prepare his players ahead of next Sunday's Ulster SFC preliminary round clash with Antrim in Casement Park.

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Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on May 13, 2008, 09:31:58 AM
Quote from: North Longford on May 13, 2008, 09:18:11 AM
It appears rumours of th late night lock ins in the Imperial have some substance.........from the horses mouth....

Keoghan backs Cavan against Antrim

May 12, 2008

Cavan boss Donal Keoghan has revealed that he locked his side away the past few weeks as he looks to prepare his players ahead of next Sunday's Ulster SFC preliminary round clash with Antrim in Casement Park.

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Nice one :D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: LackenLegend on May 13, 2008, 10:32:48 AM
Quote from: Homer on May 12, 2008, 02:26:50 PM
A hard fought two points for Ballinagh on Saturday in a hard-hitting but low-scoring victory over neighbours Lacken. Patrick Carroll, Damien McInerney and Paul Galligan were on form for us and Darragh McCarthy also providing a fantastic save to keep us on top. Lacken are flying fit and were somewhat hard won by to leave without a point as they looked the hungrier for most of the game but failed to make it count on the scoreboard. One has to wonder have they peaked a little early in the year.

As for the county scene I heard Rabbitte limped off from a training game and looks unlikely to start next Sunday.  :(

Yes we have definitely peaked too early, and with Ballinagh missing Beard, Podge and Gaynor as well as Moore and Niall McDermott from the minors. We could have gotten a point. It didn't really matter that we were missing Trevor Crowe, Gary McGauran, Raymond Galligan (came on at the end though f**ked), Colm Sheridan, Terry Hyland, Shane O Reilly and played with a half fit Finbar O Reilly. Its looking like Paul McGauran, Johnny Sheridan and Donal Shanaghy will be out for a while now too. We are but a small club ya know!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: CC1 on May 14, 2008, 08:40:45 AM
Just want to say congrats to the Shercock u14's on making the Rionn A final in the clubs first ever year at that grade. Beating Ramor Utd by 6 points in Bailieboro. Hopefully now they can go on to win it, make another little bit of history for the club.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on May 14, 2008, 11:14:28 AM
CC1-Well done I was up in Bailieboro to watch the U-14 semi-finals last nite.Shercock beat my lads in the Quarter final so I was delighted to see yas make the final.I spoke to your manager after our game and told him that if your lads play to their potential they would definetely trouble the best in the County.We had beaten Cavan Gaels the week before and while(making no excuses) we hadnt played near as well against Shercock I still feel yous are in with a big shout against the Gaels.The Gaels hav some fine footballers including a brother of Mickey Grahams at full-forward,and a good forty-yards man too.Il not say too much more about my neighbours,Im sure your Coaches were watching too!
On another note the death of Veronica Sharkey nee Brady(Gunner) occurred yesterday morning.Veronica was married to Pat Sharkey(Drumalees Club President),Aunt of Donal Keoghan and Paul the Gunner and related to Dermot McCabe I believe also.A very popular woman locally,she has represented Fianna Fail at County Council level for a number of years.May she rest in peace.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Hollow Man on May 15, 2008, 01:44:14 PM
what do you think of the team for sunday lads?

There's not much physical power there, bar McCabe, McDonald and Sheridan.

The half forward line of Martin Reilly, Flanagan and Watters has to be one of the smallest and lightest in the country.

However, there is a lot of pace in the team, bar Jason...
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on May 15, 2008, 01:45:38 PM
I'm posting on it in the "official" match thread over on the GAA Discussion page. Agree with what you say though.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: gortnaleck on May 16, 2008, 04:52:29 AM
Come on lads,some of you in the know has to enlighten us as to what is going on regarding the team for Sunday.I heard Eddie has a knee injury,what about Podge ?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on May 16, 2008, 07:57:54 AM
Quote from: gortnaleck on May 16, 2008, 04:52:29 AM
Come on lads,some of you in the know has to enlighten us as to what is going on regarding the team for Sunday.I heard Eddie has a knee injury,what about Podge ?

I'm told he is playing bad.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on May 16, 2008, 01:20:45 PM
and Sean Brady, Gerard Pierson?  ::) this selection in just mystifying.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Hollow Man on May 16, 2008, 03:33:00 PM
Pierson hasn't played much recently and maybe isn't 100 per cent, and as for Sean Brady... while I rate him, it's about time he started actually doing the business. He's on the panel six years now, same as Johnston and McKeever, yet he is no closer to a regular spot on the team than he was back whe he started.

He always loks the part, but he rarely actually delivers, unfortunately, because I rate him as a very talented footballer.

At this stage, I would definitely have Eddie Reilly ahead of Jayo - Jason is too slow now and he's lost his mobility.

While I think Martin Reily and Ronan Flanagan are two of the best yong players around, you can only afford to have so may players of that type in the side.

How many really small fellas can you get away with in the Ulster championship? Michael Brides is very small, Martin Cahill is the same, Flanagan is small, Martin Reily is small and light as is Watters. Mackey is small, Jelly is small... You're talking lads of 5 foot 7 or 8 here. Think of the Meath side with the likes of Crawford, Fay, O'Rourke, Ward, monsters all.

I think we could see a change with McCabe going to full forward and someone else starting at midfield... I know Cullivan isn't in great shape at the moment, maybe Walsh or Mulvey? Could Jason make way?


We only have one option now, that is the low ball into space - in order to create that space, one of the full forwards will have to drop deep. Going on other games, I think Keogan sees Mackey as suitable for this role, which would be an awful move in my opinion.

Could we see McCabe on the edge of the square with Jason starting on the bench and Mackey out the field?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on May 16, 2008, 03:43:48 PM
I wouldn't be suprised to see Keoghan on the edge of the square to be honest. Joking aside, I think there could be something in what you are saying. I have been harping on here in the past about the need for plan B. I would like to see McCabe given a decent run at FF and a move like that would certainly give us some more options. What you are saying could also come to pass as I don't think McCabe played in any game since we lost in the league to Westmeath. I suspect he might have an injury which may mean Keoghan will move him out of midfield. At the moment this team is far far too small. Maybe it is a master plan and there will be wholescale changes before throw in but I doubt it.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on May 16, 2008, 05:04:31 PM
Well what more could we expect from the Maverick that is Keoghan.A team that has some Cavan fans wondering is it worthwhile travelling(bar the minors of course).I really really cant see us starting with that team.Like where did Watters come from?he didnt even feature in the challenge games in the last few weeks.Podge is supposed to b Captain yet isnt starting,whats that about.I also think we'l see Gunner at some stage.Antrims Midfield isnt great so we mite see McCabe on the square.Ah who knows really.Im not expecting much from Cavan which probably means we'l win by 15 points,but I wouldnt put my house on it.
Any of yas read todays Star-an interview with Cian Mackey in which he reckons Cavan should beat Antrim 'fairly well' and he reckons the Dubs are no great shakes.Thats all rich coming from a Cavan player.That kinda shite can b done without and only gives teams motivation.
The Minor team in comparison has gone with no real suprises, has no injuries to report and a very low-key build-up.It can b all on the day with Minors so Im not gonna predict anything.All I will say though is that I will b more disappointed if our Minors lose. :'( :'( :'(
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on May 16, 2008, 05:19:29 PM
Mackey says the dubs aren't that great????? Wonder what the Dubs are saying about him? Cian who...
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on May 17, 2008, 05:37:41 PM
Tite prediction time lads-Im going for the draw in the Senior and the Minors by 4 points.McCabe to do damage in the square.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: water boy on May 19, 2008, 11:33:50 AM
Loved the commentators quote yesterday " Looks like this man has killed a few bears." classic
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on May 19, 2008, 11:43:52 AM
Watched the game on BBC.  Whats going to happen against Armagh?  Where will be played?

Will Johnson get as much freedom as he did yesterday?  How did he play against Armagh in the league?

Mackey got through a lot of work yesterday but was he playing a diversionary role?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on May 19, 2008, 11:50:40 AM
Quote from: Denn Forever on May 19, 2008, 11:43:52 AM
Watched the game on BBC.  Whats going to happen against Armagh?  Where will be played?

Will Johnson get as much freedom as he did yesterday?  How did he play against Armagh in the league?

Mackey got through a lot of work yesterday but was he playing a diversionary role?

In Breffini

he wont get near as much freedom, he will still get 4 or 5 points though id say.

Mackey was good in the most part and dropped deep as a sort of playmaking role,he sprayed some lovely ball about, but his man Scullion got on alot of ball aswell and only for bad decision making and delivery on his behalf,Cavan could have been in trouble a few times.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on May 19, 2008, 02:04:01 PM
Anyone have any ideas why our FB line was so bad yesterday. Worst game I ever seen hannon play. We can be happy with the win and Keoghan must take some credit for making the right change at the right time in bringing on Mulvey, but Antrim are a very poor side. I think we need to revisit what way we approach Armagh. No point half injured McCabe standing in at FF on Francie Bellew. I'd go two man FF line and McCabe back into midfield with McDonald (who after a shakey start came into his own in the last 1/4). Mulvey is still an sub for me as I don't think he'd last a full 70 mins. We really could do with some size in the backs. Maybe Rabbitte if fit? I can't see us beating them unfortuantely but stranger things have happened and a bit of confidence and momentum can do wonders.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Hollow Man on May 19, 2008, 02:37:26 PM
QuoteI think we could see a change with McCabe going to full forward and someone else starting at midfield... I know Cullivan isn't in great shape at the moment, maybe Walsh or Mulvey? Could Jason make way?


We only have one option now, that is the low ball into space - in order to create that space, one of the full forwards will have to drop deep. Going on other games, I think Keogan sees Mackey as suitable for this role, which would be an awful move in my opinion.

Could we see McCabe on the edge of the square with Jason starting on the bench and Mackey out the field?

I had a feeling McCabe would be FF and Mackey round the middle, I think in fairness to the manager, both worked out OK and Mulvey played a stormer.

Johnston is outstanding, and with McDonald's surprisingly good showing freeing up Mccabe, we now have options up front. A win is an enormous confidence boost. Remember, the likes of McKeever, Sean Brady, Pierson, Cullivan, Podge, Fannin etc will be chomping at the bit now to get into the side.

We are starting to fit the profile of a team who could make a mild impact. As a reporter in the Indo stated the other day, there is always one surprise team in the qualifiers, it could be us this year. Johnston is in the top 5 attackers in Ireland at present, Flanagan and Martin Reilly are exceptional as well.

It's going to be much more physical the next day, and the full back line is a worry, but all in all I think we have made progress since last year judging on yesterday... At least we looked fit - this team is full of small, nippy players, so pace and fitness won't be an issue for once.

That's half the battle...

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on May 19, 2008, 02:57:33 PM
Concerning the next day

Barry Watters who done very well for his first game i think will almost certainly lose out to McKeever

or Could we see McKeever in the half back line?

i was impressed with the actual game plan, its a while since ive seen a clear game plan from a Cavan team thats worked.

Keoghan, Sheridan and the management deserve credit for that.

as for the full back line,
if ye remember back to when we played Armagh under wee Eamon, Darren Rabbitte kept Ronan Clarke completely out of the game , Clarke didnt get a sniff. Would it be risky to start Rabbitte in his first competitive game against such quality when he hasnt played at this level for 2 years?

id favour Podge on McDonald, as McDonald would be too strong aerially for Hannon in my opinion, hes magnificant under the high ball.

that would leave Hannon on probably Tony Kernan.

thats how i see it.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Mr. Pain on May 20, 2008, 02:56:27 PM
The man still has to walk.  >:(
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Uladh on May 20, 2008, 03:12:38 PM
Quote from: boojangles on May 20, 2008, 01:03:52 PM
We beat Armagh handy enuf in the league I believe which isnt ideal and Im sure Armagh will b alot stronger come Championship.

eh?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on May 20, 2008, 03:13:36 PM
Yeah one swallow won't make our summer I fear and when we meet a decent team alot of Keogan's shortcomings will resurface. Hell, even a poor Antrim side almost had the beating of us.

Does anyone know if the minor match will be a curtain raiser to the senior game on 15th or will it be postponed due to exams and stuff? It'd be a shame if it was played at a different venue in midweek or soemthing when nobody wil get to see it.

Uladh, think boojangles weas referring to the minor league.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Uladh on May 20, 2008, 03:20:47 PM
Grand.

Don't expect much from our minors
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on May 20, 2008, 05:08:58 PM
I thought McDonald was quite average up until the last quarter. But I think we have to give him a break, it was his 1st competitive game for Cavan and he was thrown into midfield in the championship. He does seem a little slugish to get down on balls but in his favour he can take a point of both feet. I seem him in the warm up "tapping" the ball over from 40 meters with both feet. He got two fine points and when the confidence came after his 1st point he started winning some ball in the middle. I think the lad has a future. Leaving McCabe at FF is a risky one for me. There is nothing worse than thumping high ball in and seeing the FB come storming out with it. Maybe start him there but have a very definite plan B going into the match incase that option doesn't work. The other thing is whether he will be sit enough to last a match anywhere else. He was clearly hampered against Antrim with some sort of injury. As I understand it Armagh are weakish in the middle. I can see them crowding the midfield and breaking ball where the big men they have in Half back and half forward line will use their muscle to get in for breaks first. If Armagh win 50% ball we'll be in real trouble cos they are a team that will score goals. I think Fannin might be a man to come in to the backs, with Hannon (hopefully got his shitty match of the year behind him) and then maybe Rabbitte if he is fit. Unfortunately we are pinning our FB hopes on a guy who hasn't kicked a ball for Cavan in competition for 2 years - maybe that is unrealistic. I think we can give Armagh a game but in the end I expect their strength, direct play and experience to win the game by at least 3 pts
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Mr. Pain on May 21, 2008, 11:26:38 AM
There needs to be a complete overhaul of the team that played Antrim, well at least 4 or 5 changes anyway. Some of the small lads will have to make way. Perhaps Martin Reilly should stay and be given a chance as he can score. Mr. Pain's team for Armagh is:

James Reilly
Hannon (deserves another chance)
Sheridan (worth a try here)
Fannin (can do a job here)
Forde (better suited to wing)
Crowe (big man, can play well in this position)
Gunner (better than Cahill here, will track back and mark)
McDonald (had a good enough game to keep place and can play well off Mulvey)
Mulvey (enabled McDonald to play by doing donkey work, if he blows up can throw in Walsh or bring out McCabe)
M. Reilly (good feet on him if a bit light)
Flanagan (intelligent player and worth another go)
McKeever (can cover lots of ground but needs to play more in the 2nd half, tends to play great 1st half)
Johnston (keep it up)
McCabe (the same idea, an option for high ball)
Pierson (with Johnston and McCabe being marked this can provide an opportunity for Pierson to shine)

Watters and Dunne may not be suited for this game and Jayo can come in as an impact sub. Any complaints?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on May 21, 2008, 12:05:07 PM
Quote from: Mr. Pain on May 21, 2008, 11:26:38 AM
There needs to be a complete overhaul of the team that played Antrim, well at least 4 or 5 changes anyway. Some of the small lads will have to make way. Perhaps Martin Reilly should stay and be given a chance as he can score. Mr. Pain's team for Armagh is:

James Reilly
Hannon (deserves another chance)
Sheridan (worth a try here)
Fannin (can do a job here)
Forde (better suited to wing)
Crowe (big man, can play well in this position)
Gunner (better than Cahill here, will track back and mark)
McDonald (had a good enough game to keep place and can play well off Mulvey)
Mulvey (enabled McDonald to play by doing donkey work, if he blows up can throw in Walsh or bring out McCabe)
M. Reilly (good feet on him if a bit light)
Flanagan (intelligent player and worth another go)
McKeever (can cover lots of ground but needs to play more in the 2nd half, tends to play great 1st half)
Johnston (keep it up)
McCabe (the same idea, an option for high ball)
Pierson (with Johnston and McCabe being marked this can provide an opportunity for Pierson to shine)

Watters and Dunne may not be suited for this game and Jayo can come in as an impact sub. Any complaints?

Mr Pain. I'd agree with your thinking. I am not sure if Crowe has the pace for Ctr back but maybe he is worth his place. I thought Paul Brady looked tired in that game and he only came on as a sub. I seen him jogging very slowly back one time while at the same time Mulvey was busting a gut to track a guy. I do recognise that we are limited in what we can do so maybe your team isn't too bad.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on May 21, 2008, 12:57:02 PM
Quote from: Mr. Pain on May 21, 2008, 11:26:38 AM
There needs to be a complete overhaul of the team that played Antrim, well at least 4 or 5 changes anyway. Some of the small lads will have to make way. Perhaps Martin Reilly should stay and be given a chance as he can score. Mr. Pain's team for Armagh is:

James Reilly
Hannon (deserves another chance)
Sheridan (worth a try here)
Fannin (can do a job here)
Forde (better suited to wing)
Crowe (big man, can play well in this position)
Gunner (better than Cahill here, will track back and mark)
McDonald (had a good enough game to keep place and can play well off Mulvey)
Mulvey (enabled McDonald to play by doing donkey work, if he blows up can throw in Walsh or bring out McCabe)
M. Reilly (good feet on him if a bit light)
Flanagan (intelligent player and worth another go)
McKeever (can cover lots of ground but needs to play more in the 2nd half, tends to play great 1st half)
Johnston (keep it up)
McCabe (the same idea, an option for high ball)
Pierson (with Johnston and McCabe being marked this can provide an opportunity for Pierson to shine)

Watters and Dunne may not be suited for this game and Jayo can come in as an impact sub. Any complaints?

mine would be

James Reily
Michael Hannon
Pauric Reily
Keith Fannin
Anthony Forde
Johnny Crowe(Martin O Rourke is their 40 yards man so pace shouldnt be a problem)
Martin Cahill/Gunner if hes match fit(which he wasnt against antrim)
Lorcan Mulvey
Michael McDonald
Martin Reily
Ronan Flanagan
Mark McKeever
Cian Mackey
Dermot McCabe
Seanie Johnston

Pierson is obviously not doing it in training or he would be on the team. Mackey deserves his place after his good performance against Antrim.
Barry Watters unlucky to miss out.
as was Dermot Sheridan.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Mr. Pain on May 21, 2008, 03:17:27 PM
Yes, similar ideas and Mr. Pain forgot Padraig Reilly, might slip in there for Sheridan and move into the corner as Hannon would be Mr. Pain's next choice for full back.

Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on May 21, 2008, 12:57:02 PM
Pierson is obviously not doing it in training or he would be on the team. Mackey deserves his place after his good performance against Antrim.
Barry Watters unlucky to miss out.
as was Dermot Sheridan.

Mr Pain would not agree on the Mackey issue. Yes he did very well when on the ball but his man did a lot of damage running up the field and Mackey was nowhere near him. If his man had only converted some of his chances we might not be talking about the Armagh game because we'd be in the qualifiers. Mr Pain can see Gunner being in good shape for the next game as he is a professional by nature and was only just on the panel 2 weeks or so before the Antrim game. Pierson can change a game and he is said to be very disappointed whether warranted or not. Rant over!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on May 22, 2008, 02:45:45 PM
Its hard to know about Midfield and full back line.IMO Hannon has to pick up Stevie from Killeavy but the Question is who will pick up Ronan Clarke.Rabbitte would b my 1st choice but he can hardly b near Championship pace.Dermot Sheridan mite do a job but I think he's far too easily turned,and at full-back that would spell Disaster.Podge I dont think would hav the physical power.I think we will b in serious trouble in this area and thats not even thinking about Oisin.
From looking at the Armagh thread it seems that they are worried about Midfield themselves.But if PaulMc Grane is in good shape we could b in trouble.
I doubt if Keoghan will make that many changes but we need alot more power against Armagh.If Paul the Gunner is fit I would b starting with him.
I think Id try the following:

Miller
Hannon
Podge??
Fannin
Crowe
Forde
Cahill
McKeever
McDonald
Reilly
Flanagan
Pierson
Jelly
McCabe
Paul the Gunner

Paul the Gunner is excellent in the air,is brave and comfortable on the ball and would work well as a 3rd midfielder.Mackey is unlucky but could b used as a sub.I thought Forde did well against Antrim and I think he would stick well on O Rourke.Crowe would bring a bit more power to the back-line.I gave a very tentative vote to Podge at Full-back,thats if Rabbite isnt fit to play.
I think it will b damage limitation with Armaghs Full-forward line and if Im honest I think if we come within 5 points against Armagh Id b happy enough.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on May 23, 2008, 10:57:23 PM
dont think you could put Sheridan on Clarke Boojangles, Dermot is a good man marker but

thats a 6'2 man in on a 5'10 man, Podge would be the best bet (for his Aerial abilities) for Clarke if Rabbitte isnt fit.

Oisin is starting for Armagh on sunday against Dublin, so that could be yet another worry in the full back line if he starts hitting form.

we are playing Denn tommorow Night

Martin Cahill went off injured for them against Killygarry wednesday night,will let you know if hes playing tommorow or is a doubt for Amagh.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on May 24, 2008, 11:45:07 AM
Quote from: Mr. Pain on April 07, 2008, 03:43:21 PM
Townies beat Cuckoos
Wellie Throwers beat Harlem
Crowes beat the Halt
Gaels Wannabies beat Gaels Wannabies
Tog Dungers beat Yellow Bellied Nagh
Rorys beat Scrabby
Keoganville beat Skintown

No harm to ya Mr Pain but I think BH Man got caught up in the excitement of Cavans 1st Ulster Championship win in 3 years and he has since clarified his position.Ballyhaise Man is on 1 of the best contributors to this board and he shouldnt hav to listen to shit from some1 who occasionally drops in and when U do,U rarely hav anythin good to say. I doubt if Im alone in remembering the above post.You may think you're the smart boy hiding behind a message board giving little digs here and there,without even giving your own club-if you even belong to a club that is.I play for Drumalee,Ballyhaise Man knows my identity from my contributiuons to this board and he obviously knows his football.So the next time you want to call me a kn**ker why dont you come do it face to face.
RANT OVER




Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Mr. Pain on May 24, 2008, 11:58:07 AM
Ooh Mr. Pain thinks someone has got a little sand in their vagina!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on May 24, 2008, 07:02:34 PM
Have I missed something here, I don't see where Mr Pain called anyone a kn**ker. Lads, calm down a wee bit and lets not be falling out.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on May 24, 2008, 09:22:29 PM
Quote from: Mr. Pain on May 24, 2008, 11:58:07 AM
Ooh Mr. Pain thinks someone has got a little sand in their vagina!


Ah absolutely excellent comment there mate and thanks for adding to the sum total of discussion of Cavan football in the process. Now if somebody was to respond in kind, which they wouldn't anway, they would suggest something along the lines of fecking off back to your bebo page etc. As an information source this thread is excellent for us exiles, primarily due to Haise Man. Plays the game locally, is passionate about the county, ain't afraid to share his opinions. Clearly will get into a situation where those with plenty of time on their hands will be able to go back xxxxxxxxxxx months to find inconsistencies in his posting as a kind of social service (not) to the rest of us. Some other top class sources of news such as Homer and the returned Boojangles. Must give a special mention to CC1 since I reckon I know his aul fella by way of showing off my age. Most other posters fairly ok bar a few occasional clowns who stray into the realms of tosspotology, bug sure god help us the net is a free forum and an empty vessel makes plenty of noise.

Myles, and I'd have you among the good ones now, long and all as I'm out of the place I know where Boojangles is coming from and would support him 100%. Would like to see one or two of our heroic screen jockeys tog out against himself and the Haise man. Keep her lit lads
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on May 24, 2008, 09:27:59 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on May 24, 2008, 07:02:34 PM
Have I missed something here, I don't see where Mr Pain called anyone a kn**ker. Lads, calm down a wee bit and lets not be falling out.


Refer preceding post
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on May 25, 2008, 12:29:34 AM
Jaysus a man goes on the beer for a few celebrating the end of collegeand doesn't check the message board and when he comes back... it's all kickin off... settle down lads and say that kind of talk for northies and monaghan people ;D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on May 25, 2008, 11:05:37 AM
Results from Saturday...

Div 1
Lavey 1-05 Gowna 2-09
K'Garry 0-13 Mullahoran 0-10
C'Lough 0-12 Belturbet 1-09
Lacken 0-13 Cuchullains 1-10
Drumalee 0-10 Ballinagh 0-17
C'Rahan 0-14 Gaels 1-13
Denn 2-09 B'Haise 1-13

Div 2

K'kere 3-16 K'Court 1-10
B'Machugh 0-09 Redhills 1-14
Shercock 0-10 Drung 2-07

Div 3

Cornafean 0-11 B'Bridge 2-05
Laragh 0-16 Arva 0-10
M'Connacht 1-14 Swad 1-15
T'Port 1-12 Shannon Gaels 1-10
Corlough 2-08 Kildallon 2-08
Kill 1-12 Maghera 1-06
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on May 25, 2008, 02:05:47 PM
Well Im sorry if I insulted anybody(bar MrPain in the hole) but I dont take that shit.Mr.Pain referred to my club as the Halt a while back and while I let it lie to save this page turning into a slagging match for a while I felt it was time to get it off my chest.Some of it may have to do with my frustration with how Drumalee are doing this year and I know there are some lads who play with us who would b no saints but to b indirectly referred to as a kn**ker bugs me big time.
We all know the decent posters on the Cavan thread and some of us mite kno each others identities,but 1 thing we all know about each other is what Club we'r from.Its easy for a smart ass like Mr.Pain to ridicule other clubs without disclosing his own-(unless Im missing something)
Anyway Im glad Mr Pain showed himself up for what he is with a well thought out reply to my initial RANT.Good Man.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Hollow Man on May 25, 2008, 11:59:56 PM
I'm staying out of this but I thought Mr Pain's reply was witty to be fair.

Boojangles, I know lots of Drumalee lads (not sure if I know you) and most of them are absolutely dead on. However, a few dodgy fellas give your club a bad name. Wihtout any offence intended, I'm sure you know the individuals I'm talking about.

It's always the same, a few tramps give a team a bad name, but overall Drumalee fellas are usually sound. They tend to have a lot of your stereotypical "hardy" townies but most of these are gone after under 16 - maybe that's the reason for the unwarranted rep?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on May 26, 2008, 08:35:18 AM
K'kere 3-16 K'Court 1-10     :o
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Mr. Pain on May 26, 2008, 09:11:16 AM
Mr. Pain retracts that comment about the Halt and he also retracts the slagging of anyone else in that comment left a good while ago. If Mr. Pain has done anything to insult anyone about their living arrangements then he apologises. That is to you too Boojangles. Enjoy Mr. Pain responsibly.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on May 26, 2008, 01:24:26 PM
Kingscourt must be in disarray whats wrong with them?

Hear Ballinagh beat ye 17 to 10 Boojangles,

Are ye back to near full strength yet?

we beat Denn 1-13 to 2-09, scrappy enough game,Colm Reily hit a hug free to win it in injury time,Martin Cahill lined out at corner forward,didnt look injured,played well.

K'garry had a good win over Mullahoran, Everything isnt rosy for Pascal Canavan up there.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on May 26, 2008, 01:38:13 PM
Division One Table

Team P W L D Pts
Cuchullains 8 5 1 2 12
Cavan Gaels 7 5 1 1 11
Lacken 8 5 2 1 11
Lavey 8 3 3 2 8
Killygarry 7 4 3 0 8
Gowna 8 4 4 0 8
Ballinagh 7 4 3 0 8
Mullahoran 8 3 4 1 7
Denn 8 3 4 1 7
Ballyhaise 7 3 4 0 6
Crosserlough 7 2 4 1 5
Belturbet 6 2 3 1 5
Drumalee 7 2 5 0 4
Castlerahan 6 1 5 0 2

Cuchullains are flying!!!

Division 2

Team P W L D Pts
Drumgoon 8 7 1 0 14
Ramor United 7 5 1 1 11
Redhills 7 5 1 1 11
Killeshandra 8 5 3 0 10
Knockbride 8 4 2 2 10
Cavan Gaels 8 4 4 0 8
Drung 7 3 2 2 8
Kingscourt 8 3 4 1 7
Cootehill 7 3 4 0 6
Drumlane 7 3 4 0 6
Killinkere 7 2 4 1 5
Shercock 8 2 6 0 4
Bailieboro 8 2 6 0 4
Ballymachugh 8 1 7 0 2




Division Three
Team ------------P W L D Points
Kill-------------- -7 6 1 0 12
Laragh Utd ------7 5 1 1 11
Crosserlough ---7 5 2 0 10
Corlough --------8 4 2 2 10
Kildallan ---------8 4 2 2 10
Shannon Gaels--8 4 3 1 9
Arva -------------8 3 5 0 6
Templeport -----7 4 2 1 9
Butlersbridge ---7 3 3 1 7
Swanlinbar ------8 3 4 1 7
Muntirconnacht -7 1 3 3 5
Mountnugent ----8 1 5 2 4
Maghera --------8 0 5 3 3
Cornafean-------8 0 5 3 3

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on May 26, 2008, 06:06:21 PM
Just after hearing there Pierson is gone from the panel.Left it last week after Gowna played Mullahoran in the league.Told management that he got injured against Mullahoran,which I heard was only an excuse.Sad.
Mr Pain apology accepted,Mr.Pain obviously has a diferent sense of humour to Boojangles,which I can now accept.I think theres enough bickering(Hollow and BH Man) on the Board without us continuing.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on May 26, 2008, 09:06:49 PM
Quote from: boojangles on May 26, 2008, 06:06:21 PM
Just after hearing there Pierson is gone from the panel.Left it last week after Gowna played Mullahoran in the league.Told management that he got injured against Mullahoran,which I heard was only an excuse.Sad.
Mr Pain apology accepted,Mr.Pain obviously has a diferent sense of humour to Boojangles,which I can now accept.I think theres enough bickering(Hollow and BH Man) on the Board without us continuing.

That really is a pity. With McCabe and Jelly likely to be watched carefully against Armagh, Pierson could really have had a big chance to show what he is worth (assuming he was picked)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on May 26, 2008, 09:09:43 PM
cavan4sam has just posted on the official Armagh V Cavan thread that he heard gunner Brady is gone to  the US again. I find that hard to believe but then again nothing would surprise me at this stage.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on May 27, 2008, 08:08:11 AM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on May 26, 2008, 09:09:43 PM
cavan4sam has just posted on the official Armagh V Cavan thread that he heard gunner Brady is gone to  the US again. I find that hard to believe but then again nothing would surprise me at this stage.

I heard after the Antrim game that he wouldn't be available for the Armagh game beacause of handball.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on May 27, 2008, 02:47:24 PM
Sad to here that about Pierson apparently he has declared himself retired as long as DK is still at the reigns.

As regards the Gunner, I'd imagine cavan4ever has it the right way around with him due to miss the Armagh match with handball commitments in the US and the Chinese whispers have turned it into the story cavan4sam had posted.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on May 27, 2008, 03:39:54 PM
Quote from: Homer on May 27, 2008, 02:47:24 PM
Sad to here that about Pierson apparently he has declared himself retired as long as DK is still at the reigns.

As regards the Gunner, I'd imagine cavan4ever has it the right way around with him due to miss the Armagh match with handball commitments in the US and the Chinese whispers have turned it into the story cavan4sam had posted.

He'll probably be bac next year or so ....hopefully.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on May 27, 2008, 03:52:33 PM
Fingers crossed myles.

It's absolutely amazing how many players have come and gone this year and it really does say something about Keoghan's lack of any man-management skills.

While on the subject, did anyone else here rumours of a heated discussion between McCabe and the Gunner at the lock-in after the Antrim game? Apparently McCabe tackled him about the Chicago incident.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on May 27, 2008, 04:40:40 PM
Quote from: Homer on May 27, 2008, 03:52:33 PM
Fingers crossed myles.

It's absolutely amazing how many players have come and gone this year and it really does say something about Keoghan's lack of any man-management skills.

While on the subject, did anyone else here rumours of a heated discussion between McCabe and the Gunner at the lock-in after the Antrim game? Apparently McCabe tackled him about the Chicago incident.

Didn't hear that. Fair play to McCabe if he did pull him up on it. McCabe might be a mouth and think he should take every free, but he has always stuck in their in the panel through some really crappy days and through some nasty injuries. He's been on the Cavan panel now 12 yrs I think and has only missed things through injury.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Hollow Man on May 27, 2008, 04:56:16 PM
Fair play to him my hole - are you saying that, if that did happen, a night club is the place for a senior county player to pull another up on an incident from 10 months ago?

An incident that has been conveniently forgotten about in the case of Sean Johnston.

How are Cavan supposed to progress if nobody can get over two players who weren't even in the starting team missing one match due to travelling to the US? Myles, would you pick Johnston, Cahill and Brady if you were manager? In other words, would you stand by these strong principles of yours or would you do what is best for the team?

Magnificent player that he was and is, McCabe can be a negative influence from what I've heard. Apparently Pearse McKenna for one isn't his biggest fan.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on May 27, 2008, 05:17:03 PM
Quote from: Hollow Man on May 27, 2008, 04:56:16 PM
Fair play to him my hole - are you saying that, if that did happen, a night club is the place for a senior county player to pull another up on an incident from 10 months ago?

An incident that has been conveniently forgotten about in the case of Sean Johnston.

How are Cavan supposed to progress if nobody can get over two players who weren't even in the starting team missing one match due to travelling to the US? Myles, would you pick Johnston, Cahill and Brady if you were manager? In other words, would you stand by these strong principles of yours or would you do what is best for the team?

Magnificent player that he was and is, McCabe can be a negative influence from what I've heard. Apparently Pearse McKenna for one isn't his biggest fan.


Hollow man. Are you unable to reply  to a post without coming across as aggressive!! Take some pills or something and calm down. If I were manager. Well I am not privy to exactly how these guys did walk. Did they announce this at training to their team mates or did they leak to the media first? Clearly, a punishment of some sort is required or else everyone can do the same. I'd have weighed these factors up, dished out the punishement and then stuck to my decision - for the best of Cavan football, now and in the future.

Now I may have mis-interpreted the previous post, but I took it to mean that the discussion was in the dressing room after the match. Maybe that was me being Naive. I can't believe we are still having lock ins in the imperial in the middle of the championship - Is there not a drinks ban in place! Clearly a night club would not be the place for this
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Hollow Man on May 27, 2008, 05:26:12 PM
Myles, sorry if I appeared aggressive, just thought that you were wrong to praise McCabe if he came at one of the Chicago Three - it's all water under the bridge at this stage...
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Mr. Pain on May 27, 2008, 05:43:15 PM
Mr. Pain is just happy to be here. Your'e in the jungle baby....you're gonna die! Did you lot hear that some fixtures are being rearranged so that the county boys can have a rest before a tournament match Monday. c**k and balls!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on May 27, 2008, 05:46:00 PM
Jasus I've been reading the Donal Keogan and this thread and I think everyone is on the rag or something. :-[ >  >:( >  :'(

Yis are all even narkier than me! ;D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on May 27, 2008, 09:51:01 PM
Suck my c**k & balls.javascript:void(0);
Grin
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: gortnaleck on May 28, 2008, 05:17:51 AM
I doubt McCabe said anything sure he's not long back from Chicago himself,probably played with the same team,and probably missed a few Gowna games as well,so he'd be more understanding I'd imagine.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: CC1 on May 28, 2008, 09:08:12 AM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on May 26, 2008, 01:24:26 PM
Kingscourt must be in disarray whats wrong with them?
Was talking to one of their older heads and he says that they are missing loads of players. He said that he went down to watch the game, and ended up having to play the game.

We're not in much better nick ourselves, missing lots of players at the moment. At training the other night myself and another player counted that in or around 90% of the 35 man squad had been injured for games at one stage or another this year so far. I got injured in the Drung game and the two other lads that could stand in are injured too... We're playing Drumgoon on Friday... :(

Also cavan4ever... Very sexy tracksuits it must be said... ;)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4sam on May 28, 2008, 12:16:59 PM
Playing Belturbet tonight lads, hopefully with the three county men we should have enough to beat them and get ourselves off the bottom of the divsion. Then Ballyhaise on Saturday and hopefully get a win there 2 and then with Lavey, Drumalee, Killygary, Cuchulainns and Ballinagh to play it is in our own hands.

BH Man how do you guys think the game will go Saturday? Would you be hopeful of getting a victory?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Mr. Pain on May 28, 2008, 12:29:18 PM
Where is that match c4s?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4sam on May 28, 2008, 12:37:06 PM
The match tonight is in Ballyjamesduff at 8.

The match on Saturday is in Ballyhaise at 5.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on May 28, 2008, 03:09:13 PM
any of ye heading to parnell park tonight? was thinking about it headng up but I have a feelin if I do I know I'll end up in a certain nightclub on harcourt street drinking whiskey till 4 in the morning!!
All the same it would be nice if they got a win over a decent dublin outfit tonight.... perhaps get a good buzz back with the fans ahead of the armagh game
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on May 28, 2008, 03:21:48 PM
Won't be making it myself due to other commitments but I wouldn't be expecting a win as its a fairly new development within the county and these things take time to get up and running. My main fear is that we get tanked and everyone abandons ship on the idea come next year.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on May 29, 2008, 08:09:18 AM
Quote from: CC1 on May 28, 2008, 09:08:12 AM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on May 26, 2008, 01:24:26 PM
Kingscourt must be in disarray whats wrong with them?


Also cavan4ever... Very sexy tracksuits it must be said... ;)


Yeah new manger insisted that tracksuits and training gear had to be got for the players. 
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: CC1 on May 29, 2008, 08:29:39 AM
Quote from: cavan4ever on May 29, 2008, 08:09:18 AM
Quote from: CC1 on May 28, 2008, 09:08:12 AM
Also cavan4ever... Very sexy tracksuits it must be said... ;)
Yeah new manger insisted that tracksuits and training gear had to be got for the players. 
Looks good, don't think I've seen any other club in the county with them. Fair play.

Anyone have any word on how the Junior game went last night?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on May 29, 2008, 08:43:54 AM



Anyone have any word on how the Junior game went last night?

Wasn't at it but got text from a lad that was at it .

Lost by 4.  Had most of the ball but couldn't score.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: North Longford on May 29, 2008, 09:38:39 AM
Small report lads..................

An Eoghan O'Gara goal for Dublin on 27 minutes was the score that ultimately separated these two teams at Parnell Park last night.

A Paddy Gumley point had put Cavan up by 0-6 to 0-3, only for Dublin to hold their opponents scoreless for the rest of the half.

Dublin led 1-9 to 0-6 at the interval. Although Cavan managed to cut Dublin's lead to three points in the second half, the Dubs rediscovered their form, with points from Ronan Joyce and Austin Denis breaking the back of Cavan's resistance.

SCORERS -- Dublin: W Finnegan 0-4(3f) K Connolly 0-3, E O'Gara 1-0, G Brennan 0-2, A Dennis, R Joyce, A Darcy 0-1 each. Cavan: K Brady (2f,1sl), P Gumley 0-3 each, T Crowe, S Maguire, S Clarke (1f), J Tierney, G Doyle 0-1 each.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4sam on May 29, 2008, 09:41:16 AM
Lads, Castlerahan had a good win over Belturbet last night. 1-17 to 1-8.

Castlerahan had the 3 county men and looked a lot stronger than they had done in the league to date. Jason wasn't playing for Belturbet.

Hopefully we will get the win over Ballyhaise on Saturday.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4sam on May 29, 2008, 09:51:35 AM
Updated table after last nights game

Team P W L D Pts
Cuchullains 8 5 1 2 12
Cavan Gaels 7 5 1 1 11
Lacken 8 5 2 1 11
Lavey 8 3 3 2 8
Killygarry 7 4 3 0 8
Gowna 8 4 4 0 8
Ballinagh 7 4 3 0 8
Mullahoran 8 3 4 1 7
Denn 8 3 4 1 7
Ballyhaise 7 3 4 0 6
Crosserlough 7 2 4 1 5
Belturbet 7 2 4 1 5
Castlerahan 7 2 5 0 4
Drumalee 7 2 5 0 4
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on May 29, 2008, 05:01:57 PM
Dont wanna drag it up again but on that point made about McCabe and Gunner having a wee barney after the Antrim game,while I didnt indulge in the Lock-In that nite(I waited until last Sunday)I have it from a good source that it was actually McKeever who was having a go at Paul.I had heard about it the day after but dont think that kinda stuff should b talked about.But while we are acting like Desperate Housewifes-can anybody guess who was the only County Senior I met in Vision Sunday nite full-You guessed it-Mackey.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on May 29, 2008, 05:10:46 PM
Cavan Team
Cavan - Fintan O'Reilly(Redhills); Michael Clarke(knockbride), Darren Smith(Lavey), K O'Neill(who is he); James Moynagh(Lacken), Alan Clarke(Kingscourt), Andrew McConnell(Buttlersbridge); Trevor Crowe(Lacken) (0-1), S Maguire (0-1)(Lavey); James Clarke(Killinkere), Seamus Clarke (0-1) (1f)(Cuchullains), Kevin Brady (0-3)(Lavey) (2f); Paddy Gumley(Redhills) (0-3), John Tierney(Knocbride) (0-1), Gavin Doyle(Arva) (0-1).

Subs: Dane O'Dowd(Drumlane) (29) for S Clarke, Paddy Brady(Mullahoran??) for Doyle (50), Alan Curran(Drung) for M Clarke (55), Colm Reilly(Ballyhaise) for J Clarke (58), P Smith for McConnell (59), Could be Philip Smith of Kingscourt or Padraig Smith(Castlerahan)

anyone fill in the blanks.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4sam on May 29, 2008, 05:14:15 PM
It was Mackeys 21st at the weekend, didn't seem to have affected him that much as he played very well last night. I don't think havin a few pints on the 25th May is going to affect his performance on the 15th June.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on May 29, 2008, 05:18:01 PM
also regarding the juniors, whats the criteria in selecting them???

i know some counties select players only from junior clubs like Mayo do,

Others only select players who havent played senior club championship football last year
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on May 29, 2008, 05:19:24 PM
i dont mind Mackey going out enjoying his 21st and getting full,

i just hope he ran it off the day after,  :D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4sam on May 29, 2008, 05:22:26 PM
BH Man, you never got back to me, how do you think you guys will do against us on Saturday evening?

Seen a couple of Ballyhaise men at the match last night.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on May 29, 2008, 05:26:18 PM
Quote from: cavan4sam on May 29, 2008, 05:22:26 PM
BH Man, you never got back to me, how do you think you guys will do against us on Saturday evening?

Seen a couple of Ballyhaise men at the match last night.

sorry C4sam i didnt look back at any of the posts before,

we are missing an awful lot of players on Saturday,Missing a fair few of our first team players, and some of our better junior players who might have stepped up are also injured.so it will be very tough to get anything out of it especially if your 3 county men are playing

Our 2 county men are still injured.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on May 29, 2008, 05:28:26 PM
Id hav no problem with anybody having a few 3 weeks before a game-as long as a Drinks Ban hasnt been called.Altho Keoghan was plastered himself so he probably wouldnt remember even if Stevie McDonnell was falling around Vision.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on May 29, 2008, 05:34:45 PM
what Boojangles left out is that it was he who buying the drinks for Mackey and Keoghan in exchange for the latest Gossip   :P
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
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Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: gortnaleck on May 30, 2008, 01:04:10 AM
Boojangles,it's even harder to believe that McKeever was having a go at Paul for playing in Chicago
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4sam on May 30, 2008, 09:55:21 AM
Does anyone have a full list of this weekends fixtures?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4sam on May 30, 2008, 10:02:26 AM
Its ok lads, I think this is correct? Predictions please!!

Cavan Gaels   v      Lavey.................................Gaels
Gowna      v      Killygarry..............................Gowna
Mullahoran      v      Crosserlough........................Draw
Belturbet      v      Lacken................................Lacken
Cuchullains      v      Drumalee.............................Cuchullains   
Ballinagh      v      Denn..................................Draw
Ballyhaise      v      Castlerahan..........................Rahan
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Hollow Man on May 30, 2008, 12:06:04 PM
QuoteBut while we are acting like Desperate Housewifes-can anybody guess who was the only County Senior I met in Vision Sunday nite full-You guessed it-Mackey

You're out of order here Boojangles. Naming an individual who was drunk is wrong - we're not a crowd of gossiping old women here.

You don't know the context here. Were you full on Sunday night? Should Mackey post that?

I know he's a county player etc but do you see my point?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on May 30, 2008, 01:09:38 PM
OK I was wrong to post that.But in fairness Hollow Man Im not the 1st person to post gossip about a County Senior or Cian Mackey for that matter.It doesnt make it right tho and it wont happen again.I wouldnt like to see this thread turn into a gossiping column.
As regards Gortnalecks post-well it was a girl who wouldnt kno anything about Football that said it to me but anyway what the hell does it really matter who was having words with who.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Hollow Man on May 30, 2008, 03:11:58 PM
No hassle Boojangles.

If we were going to post every time a Cavan player went on the piss we'd need to set up a new website.

PS I love Ballyhaise Man
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on May 30, 2008, 03:20:28 PM
Quote from: cavan4sam on May 30, 2008, 10:02:26 AM
Its ok lads, I think this is correct? Predictions please!!

Cavan Gaels   v      Lavey.................................Gaels
Gowna      v      Killygarry..............................Gowna
Mullahoran      v      Crosserlough........................Draw
Belturbet      v      Lacken................................Lacken
Cuchullains      v      Drumalee.............................Cuchullains   
Ballinagh      v      Denn..................................Draw
Ballyhaise      v      Castlerahan..........................Rahan


Cavan Gaels   v      Lavey.................................Gaels
Gowna      v      Killygarry..............................Gowna
Mullahoran      v      Crosserlough........................Crosserlough
Belturbet      v      Lacken................................Lacken
Cuchullains      v      Drumalee.............................Cuchullains   
Ballinagh      v      Denn..................................Ballinagh
Ballyhaise      v      Castlerahan..........................Ballyhaise  ;)

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: CoillyG on May 31, 2008, 09:13:05 PM
Killygarry v Gowna was a draw. 12  points apiece. Fairly exciting game, both teams had chances to win it. Mc Cabe was very influential. He kicked some monsterous points.  Killygary have hit a decent run of form.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on June 02, 2008, 05:30:12 PM
Was home for the 1st time in a long time so called into watch the leaguers play B'boro in what was the last match in Packie Devlin park before the ground is redeveloped. Leaguers won by 14 - 10. The match was close early on but leaguers went in 3 points up at half time. Thomais O Reilly was sent off for punching 10 minutes before half time (rightly so). 10 mins into the 2nd half Declan McKiernan was also sent of for striking (again rightly so) but leaguers held on to win by 4. B'boro are shockingly poor. They look unfit, lacking in ideas and never looked like winning this game. They look like a team that could dissappear into junior football and stay there for a long time. Killeshandra have a very young team with some real good county prospects. Phillip Kings (King Communication fame and brother of Steven) son Patrick started FF and is only just gone 17. The lad is well over 6 ft and absoltuley destroyed his man. I am bit mistified why he didn't get a chance when he was on the minor panel this year. At Corner back is Cillian Reilly who is a real speed merchant and tight marker. Makes tackles, lays it off simple and never mouths to the ref or other players. At midfield Declan McKiernan and Thomais Reilly are two certainties for county football. But there is a down side. Killeshandras discipline is a disgrace. Constantly niggling off the ball, throwing punchs and mouthing to players and refs. I saw 3 times Declan McKiernan struck a player. Twice with the fist and one sly dig with the knee. Thomais Reilly also punched an opposition player which is not his usual form. A B'boro player was also knocked out by a punch on the half time whistle and looked in a bad way as he was treated during the whole half time break. On Tuesday night last in a reserve game they also had 2 men sent off for boxing. If the Leaguers management don't get this under control they will ruin this team. The problem is the management are just as bad, encrouching onto the pitch to abuse the ref and defend the undefensible. Some of the more sensible Killeshandra playes had to drag King of the pitch (on a side note king was wearing a vest tucked in under a track suit and was the closest thing I have ever seen to Rab C Nesbit - big belly to boot). I also hear that Declan McKiernan is gone to the US now for the summer so won't feature in the championship.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: CC1 on June 02, 2008, 10:04:40 PM
We lost to the Goonies with a last minute goal...  :-[
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on June 03, 2008, 12:50:18 AM
I was at the game CC1 on friday, goonies robbed you with that goal.... but ye should have been out of sight at half time... could have had 2 maybe 3 goals in d first half.... glad Mickey Reilly (is that his name,,, young buck wearing No. 9) wasn't playing against us - very lively footballer but unfortunately you needed him at mid field and another version of him in full forward...
myles have to agree about the mouthing and behaviour of some of the killeshandra boyos... they beat us fair and square earlier on in the league... but some of the things one of the mid fielders was saying was just brutal... some of his team mates looked actually embarrassed of him...
we played ballymachugh on saturday... absolutely blessed to get a point even though we missed a glorious chance to win it with the last kick of the ball.... terrible performance by ourselves
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on June 03, 2008, 08:52:07 PM
Longford hand Cavan defeat in Dromard
03 June 2008


Longford emerged as three-point victors from their meeting with Cavan in the Stevie O'Reilly annual tournament at Pairc Na Gael, Dromard last Monday evening.

Longford 1-19
Cavan 1-16

Ten points from Longford ace Brian Kavanagh saw the hosts register an uplifting win against a Cavan side who were without sharpshooter Sean Johnston for the majority of the match.

Despite trailing by two points at the break, Luke Dempsey's side put together a vigorous second-half display, which was spearheaded by the illustrious Kavanagh, to see off Donal Keogan's charges on the day.
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Liam Keenan's switch to full-forward also proved crucial for the Leinster side as the St. Patrick's clubman capped off his impressive performance by hitting the back of the Cavan net at the halfway stage of the second-half.

Former All Star Dermot McCabe started with the number 14 jersey on his back for the visitors and had a tally of 1-7 to boast come the full-time whistle in Dromard.

However, it was Keenan's green flag which levelled the game and gave Longford the edge coming into the final quarter.

Kavanagh had given the Cavan defence a torrid time up to now and the Kilmacud Crokes star kept his outstanding performance going until the 70 minutes were up as he pointed his side to the finish line.

Sean Johnston came on late for the Ulster outfit to lash over a late free, but to no avail as an inspired Longford side held out for victory with three points to spare over their neighbours in the end.

Absent of Johnston for much of the game, Cavan were also without team captain Mark McKeever, Ronan Flanagan and Jason O'Reilly, who should all be available for the Ulster SFC quarter-final meeting with Armagh in Breffni Park on June 15.

Meanwhile, Longford have a timely wait ahead of them until their next SFC outing as they play in the All-Ireland qualifiers on the weekend of July 18/19, after exiting in the first round of the Leinster SFC to Westmeath.

Longford - Damien Sheridan; Dermot Brady, Arthur O'Connor, Noel Farrell; Paddy McDonnell, Enda Williams, Declan Reilly; Liam Keenan (1-0), Paddy Dowd (0-2); Peter Foy (0-1), Paul Barden (0-1), David Barden (0-2); Mark Smith (0-1), Brian Kavanagh (0-10) (4f), Francis Magee (0-2)

Subs: Stephen Watters for Damien Sheridan, Cathal Conefrey for Paddy McDonnell, Thomas Gallagher for Mark Smith

Cavan - James O'Reilly; Padraig O'Reilly, Rory Dunne, Martin Cahill; Anthony Forde, John Cunningham, Jonathan Crowe; Lorcan Mulvey, Michael McDonald; Martin Reilly (0-3) (1f), Barry Watters, Cian Mackey (0-1) (1f); Sean Brady (0-1), Dermot McCabe (1-7), Eddie O'Reilly (0-3)

Subs: James Carolan for James O'Reilly, John McCutcheon for Martin Cahill, Keith Fannin for Jonathan Crowe, Declan Gaffney for Michael McDonald, Sean Johnston (0-1) (1f) for Eddie O'Reilly
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: CC1 on June 04, 2008, 08:15:39 AM
Quote from: Celt_Man on June 03, 2008, 12:50:18 AM
I was at the game CC1 on friday, goonies robbed you with that goal.... but ye should have been out of sight at half time... could have had 2 maybe 3 goals in d first half.... glad Mickey Reilly (is that his name,,, young buck wearing No. 9) wasn't playing against us - very lively footballer but unfortunately you needed him at mid field and another version of him in full forward...
It was one of those days alright, everything we did seemed to be right on the day but the day just wasn't ours. Every goal chance we had seemed to just rise over the bar and in the second half we seemed like we were ran off our feet in periods. The hard work in the first half tired us out and if we had taken our chances maybe it could have been a different story. Story of our year so far really. Yeah Mickey is a super footballer when he's flying fit, both he and Kenny Burns (number 14 against the goonies) have the highest spring for a ball I think I have ever seen and personally I think they're as good as anybody in the county. You're right though we do need one forward of some calibre at the moment, the lads up there are good footballers but they can go missing far too often, there are lads on the bench but its hard to know who the right combination is...

Very surprised to hear you drew with BMH, would have thought that it would have been an easy two points for you as they are a very limited team in my opinion. Big, hard hitting men but not enough footballers. Thought the movement of your half backs and midfield coming forward would have been too much for them...
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Mr. Pain on June 04, 2008, 11:45:38 AM
Rough weekend, kidneys sore, league games over for a while. Focus is back on the county team, a team who couldn't beat Longford. Only plus is McCabe's scoring.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on June 04, 2008, 03:15:43 PM
Div 3 league table. Can't believe that Cornafean are so bad - what the hell is going on with  them? Is their relegation in Div 4 after Templeports appeal last year? Believe it or not there is a poster on these boards called "Cornafean" but he/she never posts on the Cavan thread for some reason. I'd be interested to know what is happening there. Anyone have up to date tables on the other divisions.

Team ------------P W L D Points
Laragh Utd ------8 6 1 1 13
Kill-------------- -8 6 2 0 12
Crosserlough ---8 6 2 0 12
Templeport -----8 5 2 1 11
Corlough --------9 4 3 2 10
Kildallon ---------9 4 3 2 10
Shannon Gaels--9 4 4 1 9
Butlersbridge ---8 4 3 1 9
Swanlinbar ------9 4 4 1 9
Muntirconnacht -8 2 3 3 7
Arva -------------9 3 6 0 6
Mountnugent ----9 2 5 2 6
Maghera --------9 0 6 3 3
Cornafean-------9 0 6 3 3
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on June 04, 2008, 03:27:12 PM
id have taken Cornafean to be a top 4 Division 3 team at the start of the year, shocking to see them rock bottom

There is relegation this year yes

1 goes down and 1  from Division 4 goes up.

I Still think they will stay up

Maghera for me will go down.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on June 04, 2008, 03:29:20 PM
we lost 1-08 to 0-08 to Castlerahan after dominating the game for all but the last 10 minutes

Mackey scored 1-04, The Goal was dodgy though,Goalkeeping mistake

Barry Kelly kept him very quiet.

He moved out to centre forward for last 15 minutes and done damage.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Hollow Man on June 04, 2008, 03:39:21 PM
I would suggest that he didn't keep him that quiet if he scored almost as much as your whole team put together.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on June 04, 2008, 03:44:15 PM
Quote from: Hollow Man on June 04, 2008, 03:39:21 PM
I would suggest that he didn't keep him that quiet if he scored almost as much as your whole team put together.

do you want me to spell it out for you

he scored a flukey goal with an attempted shot that was dropped into the goal by our keeper,
He was completely non existant at full forward were Barry Kelly won virtually every ball,
He then switched out to Centre Forward where Kelly stayed at Full Back, where he made a huge impact and scored 0-3 in the last 15 minutes.
Is that clear enough for you now?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on June 04, 2008, 03:46:32 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on June 04, 2008, 03:44:15 PM
Quote from: Hollow Man on June 04, 2008, 03:39:21 PM
I would suggest that he didn't keep him that quiet if he scored almost as much as your whole team put together.

do you want me to spell it out for you

he scored a flukey goal with an attempted shot that was dropped into the goal by our keeper,
He was completely non existant at full forward were Barry Kelly won virtually every ball,
He then switched out to Centre Forward where Kelly stayed at Full Back, where he made a huge impact and scored 0-3 in the last 15 minutes.
Is that clear enough for you now?

These cavan threads are getting very bitchy  :D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Mr. Pain on June 04, 2008, 03:52:10 PM
Yis are at it again! 8)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on June 04, 2008, 03:55:47 PM
im sorry lads i just cannot help it  ;D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on June 04, 2008, 04:12:41 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on June 04, 2008, 03:55:47 PM
im sorry lads i just cannot help it  ;D

You're getting risen to easy these days BHM.  How is the league going anyway?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on June 04, 2008, 04:17:21 PM
Quote from: cavan4ever on June 04, 2008, 04:12:41 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on June 04, 2008, 03:55:47 PM
im sorry lads i just cannot help it  ;D

You're getting risen to easy these days BHM.  How is the league going anyway?

bottom 4
           Points
B'Haise   6
Castlerahan 6
Belturbet  5
Drumalee  4

Its very close
Ballinagh in 4th place are on 9 points.
with Cuchullains,Gaels, Lacken way ahead on 14, 13, 13 points respectively at the top.

How are drung going? Knockbride beat ye at the weekend? Howd the county lads get on, Larry on Fire?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on June 04, 2008, 04:31:28 PM
Yeah kicked alot of wides against Knockbride probably should have beaten them but they took there chances. Larry kicked a few nice points and John Tierney played well in midfield.  Goals conceded are costing us games, our county goalie has let in 6 in last 3 games and Watters is playing very poor trying to do it all himself.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on June 04, 2008, 05:16:00 PM
How's Tierney looking these days, is he any way fit?

I think Keogan should draft him on to the county panel and send him training down to Crusheen with Mike Mac, would bring him on a ton.

:o
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Mr. Pain on June 05, 2008, 10:48:54 AM
What does everyone think of how the league has shaped up so far? Cuchullains and Lacken near top, Mullahoran having a poor run to date, Killygarry coming good after a good start, Ballyhaise starting well then doing poorly...... Mr. Pain could go on and on. It's a fcuked up league so far. Any predictions for winners, who will get relegated? Looks like Drumalee at the minute (no offence Boojangles) 
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on June 05, 2008, 11:09:48 AM
Don't really know who is going down from Div 1 as I haven't seen any Div 1 games but I think it is a good sign that quite a lot of clubs can compete with each other across the division and there is at least a little bit of competition for honours. I didn't expect to see cuchulains do so well. On the downside to see big towns like B'boro and K'court doing so bad is a great shame - Cavan football could do with these teams being strong.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Mr. Pain on June 05, 2008, 12:39:42 PM
Mr. Pain would have to agree with that. Those big clubs would need to be feeding players on to the county team. The smaller clubs are doing well but don't have the numbers and are less likely to have an exceptional player in their ranks. That said, there are serious problems when the likes of Kingscourt and Balieborough are not competing at the highest level. These are towns with large populations but perhaps that is the problem and the influence of foreign sports doesn't help things. Rant over!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on June 05, 2008, 05:58:28 PM
The League definetely has been a strange one so far.At the moment we look like certs to go down,We hav alot of problems and alot of injuries.We are missing a few big strong experienced men round the middle that can grab a game by the scruff of the neck..We have lost an unbelieveable amount of players in the last 3 years,some have left the club or country(Micky Brennan,Johnny Higgins,Seanie Flea Lee,Francie Cleary,Micky Lee) while injuries are also killing us(Brendan Smith,Kevin Gavigan,Colm Caffrey)to name but a few.We have 6 weeks to get things right and hopefully give a good account of ourselves against Ballyhaise.
The point was made earlier about foreign sports being a problem for town teams such as Bailieboro and Kingscourt and to be honest I can only see these problems getting worse for the GAA.We hav about 5 or 6 Senior players who also play competitive soccer but I look to our U-14 Team I would say about 10 or 11 are playing soccer while some have quit to play soccer.
The best I can do with my U-14 panel is try to work around soccer games and training,because I know it sounds sad but alot of young lads if they had to choose between Gaelic and Soccer there is only 1 winner.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on June 06, 2008, 01:12:16 AM
Quote from: boojangles on June 05, 2008, 05:58:28 PM
The League definetely has been a strange one so far.At the moment we look like certs to go down,We hav alot of problems and alot of injuries.We are missing a few big strong experienced men round the middle that can grab a game by the scruff of the neck..We have lost an unbelieveable amount of players in the last 3 years,some have left the club or country(Micky Brennan,Johnny Higgins,Seanie Flea Lee,Francie Cleary,Micky Lee) while injuries are also killing us(Brendan Smith,Kevin Gavigan,Colm Caffrey)to name but a few.We have 6 weeks to get things right and hopefully give a good account of ourselves against Ballyhaise.
The point was made earlier about foreign sports being a problem for town teams such as Bailieboro and Kingscourt and to be honest I can only see these problems getting worse for the GAA.We hav about 5 or 6 Senior players who also play competitive soccer but I look to our U-14 Team I would say about 10 or 11 are playing soccer while some have quit to play soccer.
The best I can do with my U-14 panel is try to work around soccer games and training,because I know it sounds sad but alot of young lads if they had to choose between Gaelic and Soccer there is only 1 winner.

Yeh losing Two county men
in Micky Brennan and Johnny Higgins would be a blow to any Senior Club,
Clubs at Intermediate level cant afford to lose such players.
Francie Clearly was a class act at underage level and was playing good stuff for London this yera i believe aswell,
Flea and Mickey Lee are also loses.

Dont be trying your sweet talk about how ye will try and give a "good account" of yerselves in the Championship. Im not Buying it. ;D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on June 06, 2008, 01:18:56 AM
Lads any idea who was marking Brian Kavanagh who scored 0-10 including 0-6 from play in the recent Challenge game?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: North Longford on June 06, 2008, 09:07:02 AM
QuoteLads any idea who was marking Brian Kavanagh who scored 0-10 including 0-6 from play in the recent Challenge game?
Both Pauric Reilly and Rory Dunne tried but there wasn't much difference in the effect they had...I 'd say no difference at all. And it could have been worse. I'd say he kicked at least 5 wides from play all of which could have been scored.
Kavanagh is a bit bigger than your regular speedy free scoring corner forward so the ball doesn't have to always be the best which makes it very hard for a back to mark him. I'd say there are a lot of backs in Longford club football glad to see him plying his trade inm Dublin!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on June 06, 2008, 10:47:14 AM
Kavanagh is a rare breed, he's right up there with the very best. I love watching him play, I'm not surprised to hear he had the Cavan defenders in ribbons, he's taken on far better and made bits of them as well.

I fancy Armagh to stick 2-15 past us on Sunday week.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on June 06, 2008, 05:04:09 PM
Quote from: cavanmaniac on June 06, 2008, 10:47:14 AM
Kavanagh is a rare breed, he's right up there with the very best. I love watching him play, I'm not surprised to hear he had the Cavan defenders in ribbons, he's taken on far better and made bits of them as well.

I fancy Armagh to stick 2-15 past us on Sunday week.

I know Kavanagh is a class act,but you cannot let a player score 0-10 with 6 from play, and expect to beat any half decent team.
Stevie from Killeavy could score 3 or 4 goals on his own with the way we are going.
Keoghan still thinks Rory Dunne is an IC Full back i see.  ::)
Anyone can see he doesnt have the speed of the mark to compete with Top Class players.(at least not yet this early in his IC Career)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on June 06, 2008, 05:12:40 PM
It's not Rory Dunne at full back that worries me.... John Cunningham at centre half back... with all due respect to him John but holy jaysus... don't understand why Keoghan is starting to try him there at this late stage??
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Mr. Pain on June 06, 2008, 05:35:48 PM
Dudes this is the team:

1.CC1 (watched James Reilly enough and will replace him at club level due to recent form)
2.Celt_Man (wants to fix the backs problem)
3.Ballyhaise Man (very defensive)
4.cavanmaniac (there to stop Armagh from scoring 2-15 against Cavan)
5.Anglo Celt 39 (good wing back, ultra-defensive but often offensive)
6.boojangles (another defensive man who can also attack, will steady the ship)
7.mylestheslasher (has a good brain most times but can be caught ball-watching)
8.cavan4ever (can lead the team and does not get into arguments)
9.Homer (steady hands at midfield)
10.North Longford (well, Cavan often have at least one blow-in)
11.Lawerence of Knockbride (if anything like his namesake he should do well)
12.cavan4sam (good young fella coming through)
13.Mr. Pain (offensive player)
14.Hollow Man (unbelievably offensive, plus it would be good to keep him far away from BHM)
15.Denn Forever (between him and the young gortnaleck)

Anyone agree/disagree?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on June 06, 2008, 06:17:42 PM
Only if I'm captain and Peter & Michael can play. I'm away after my tail.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on June 06, 2008, 09:10:00 PM
A selection in the finest tradition of Cavan Football, full of attack minded defenders. Poor CC1 could be pretty exposed by times as I imagine a fair few lads pressing forward to make sure the opposition full back line are doing their job to the full.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on June 06, 2008, 09:54:49 PM
Glaring omission Mr Pain, the ultimate impact sub, That's the Ball-plays in short sharp spurts to devastating effect. Serious fireworks if brought into the full forward line late on I would say. Please keep him well away from me.

Based on experience, long service and a knowledge of what is needed in Cavan Football I have Maniac as Captain. Can be relied on to bring a bit of calmness when all around him are losing the head, but god help us all if he goes off. What he did to deserve trying to pull this bunch of yahoos together into a cohesive unit god only knows.

Again in the best traditions of Cavan football I have Lynchbhoy as manager, the out of county appointment, intimate knowledge of Cavan football, intimitate knowledge of all other counties, intimate knowledge of everything. Thought about the Rial County's leading Exile Hardy but god knows we have enough trouble looking at players 1 to 15.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: CC1 on June 07, 2008, 04:34:20 PM
Quote from: anglocelt39 on June 06, 2008, 09:10:00 PM
A selection in the finest tradition of Cavan Football, full of attack minded defenders. Poor CC1 could be pretty exposed by times as I imagine a fair few lads pressing forward to make sure the opposition full back line are doing their job to the full.
Keoghan to make rash substitution and replace CC1 with shotstopper1 after a point is conceeded... ;)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on June 07, 2008, 07:29:52 PM
 ;D at all of yis.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: gortnaleck on June 07, 2008, 08:33:38 PM
I think Mr Pain jumped the gun a little bit with the team selection.I had started the process and had even done some research on another thread.I'm willing to let it slide this time and see how it pans out. Even at this early stage there seems to be a couple of unhappy punters so I sense some trouble in the near future for Mr Pain
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on June 07, 2008, 08:41:28 PM
Take my eye of the ball - by jasus I'd clean you out Mr Pain. Also, Hollowman man and BHM could be marking each other in training and that could get nasty. We have so many posters maybe we should have a junior team too.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: REDCOL on June 07, 2008, 08:41:54 PM
Anyone here anything from last nights match with cork. Heard the score was 2-14 to 10 with cork winning. Masters did not play. Canty beat big dermot, and midfield in a lot of trouble, had to move dermot out.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: gortnaleck on June 08, 2008, 03:28:31 AM
I hope Canty didn't  mind not having to mark Johnston again
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4sam on June 09, 2008, 11:33:47 AM
Team that lined out against Cork at weekend.

1. James Reilly
2. Michael Hannon
3. Rory Dunne
4. Dermot Sheridan
5. Padraig Reilly
6. Anthony Forde
7. John McCutheon
8. Michael McDonald
9. Mark McKeever
10. Martin Reilly
11. Ronan Flanagan
12. Cian Mackey
13. Eddie Reilly
14. Dermot McCabe
15. Seanie Johnston
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4sam on June 10, 2008, 11:29:56 AM
5/6 days to the Armagh match and no Cavan supporters online, whats going on??

Personally i think our back line is too weak and ultimately that will be our downfall.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on June 10, 2008, 11:37:00 AM
Everyone will have to play to there best to have any chance.  The team selection will be interesting i heard Dunne was very poor against Cork and barely got a tackle in.  If that happens on Sunday Miller will be busy. 
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Mr. Pain on June 10, 2008, 11:45:20 AM
You said it c4s. Mr. Pain senses a slight lack of interest in the county team or maybe disillusionment. Mr. Pain would agree that the back line is far too weak. Cavan's forward have the potential to cause problems though. It will be hard to see Cavan getting a result but Mr. Pain will be there hoping both teams get a win but not expecting anything. Its like when you go to see a movie and don't expect much and it turns out to be good. That will be Mr. Pain's mindset going into this game and hopefully it wil turn out to be good.

With regard to the team Mr. Pain posted with the members of this thread lined out. Its a bit of fun, relax the kacks! Thastheball should be on the panel alright. Gortnaleck, ya snooze ya lose. Rant over!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4sam on June 10, 2008, 11:51:57 AM
What i believe the team will be on Sunday

1. James Reilly
2. Michael Hannon
3. Padraig Reilly
4. Martin Cahill
5. Dermot Sheridan
6. Anthony Forde
7. Jonathon Crowe
8. Michael McDonald
9. Mark McKeever
10. Martin Reilly
11. Ronan Flanagan
12. Cian Mackey
13. Jason O' Reilly
14. Dermot McCabe
15. Seanie Johnston

Probably a mile off with this team but said id have a go.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on June 10, 2008, 01:33:19 PM
C4S your team could be close enough although I think Jayo will make way for Eddie or Sean Brady. Yeah a big lack of interest and hardly surprising. I fear a walloping although I doubt Armagh are too good and could be caught cold. Their forwards gave a remarkable display of bad shooting against us in Cross which surely won't happen again. McCabe is our only hope at FF as I think Johnston will be looked after by an extra man. Full back line will again be troubled by Clarke and others. What bets a moral victory for DK and a right good session afterwards? I'm booking Monday off just incase.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on June 10, 2008, 01:58:08 PM
Quote from: Lawrence of Knockbride on June 10, 2008, 01:33:19 PM
C4S your team could be close enough although I think Jayo will make way for Eddie or Sean Brady. Yeah a big lack of interest and hardly surprising. I fear a walloping although I doubt Armagh are too good and could be caught cold. Their forwards gave a remarkable display of bad shooting against us in Cross which surely won't happen again. McCabe is our only hope at FF as I think Johnston will be looked after by an extra man. Full back line will again be troubled by Clarke and others. What bets a moral victory for DK and a right good session afterwards? I'm booking Monday off just incase.

You may book the Tuesday off aswell, there was a good rip on the Monday after the Mighty Antrim team were beaten so a moral victory against Armagh would surely lead to a bigger session.  Seen in the star today that Keoghan reckons if Cavan are leading after 60 mins that we will win.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on June 10, 2008, 02:07:11 PM
Quote from: cavan4sam on June 10, 2008, 11:51:57 AM
What i believe the team will be on Sunday

1. James Reilly
2. Michael Hannon
3. Padraig Reilly
4. Martin Cahill
5. Dermot Sheridan
6. Anthony Forde
7. Jonathon Crowe
8. Michael McDonald
9. Mark McKeever
10. Martin Reilly
11. Ronan Flanagan
12. Cian Mackey
13. Jason O' Reilly
14. Dermot McCabe
15. Seanie Johnston

Probably a mile off with this team but said id have a go.

my bet

1.James Reily
2.Michael Hannon
3.Rory Dunne
4.Padraig Reily
5.Martin Cahill
6.Anthony Forde
7.Dermot Sheridan
8.Michael McDonald
9.Mark McKeever
10.Martin Reily
11.Ronan Flanagan
12.Cian Mackey
13.Eddie Reily
14.Dermot McCabe
15.Seanie Johnston
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: CavanCola on June 10, 2008, 03:30:01 PM
Meanwhile, Cavan manager Donal Keogan is upbeat about his team's prospects after a first championship win for three years against Antrim in Casement Park.

Keogan believes that "success is imminent" in Cavan because of growing reservoir of young talent that now exists in the county.

"The breakthrough is imminent in Cavan football. There are so many quality footballers coming through and I've given more young players an opportunity this year," he said.

"It is a very young team. We have two minors from last year -- Rory Dunne at full-back and Barry Dunne at wing-back who are both 18 -- on the team the last day who performed well.

"I think we can win titles in the next few years. There are a lot of quality players coming through. Our whole half-forward line the last day against Antrim was under 21 years of age."

Keogan admits, however, that he may not see this success in his time as manager.

"The pressure is never off you when you are manager of the Cavan team," he explained.

"Everyone wants success like turning on a tap or switching on a light but it doesn't work like that. I'm here preaching that it is going to take time but I know that I haven't got time. But we need a result on Sunday and I'm hopeful we'll get it."

Keogan, who reports a clean bill of health and will select from a full strength squad, feels Sunday will benefit Cavan football in future years.

"Every one of the Armagh team will have an All-Ireland medal, whether it's the real thing or whether it's an U-21 medal. But Sunday's game for our lads will stand them in good stead in the future. The experience they will gain before a huge crowd in Breffni Park will be invaluable."

...

Some of this sounds like a Post match Moral victory interview  :'(

Mr Pain...
Re the fantasy team ... can I drive the Team bus or carry the bucket and sponge.  My attendance at training would be like my posting - sporadic!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Uladh on June 10, 2008, 03:38:34 PM
Quote from: CavanCola on June 10, 2008, 03:30:01 PM
"Every one of the Armagh team will have an All-Ireland medal, whether it's the real thing or whether it's an U-21 medal.

That wouldn't be true. off the top of my head - McKinney, mallon, Toner, Martin O'Rourke and Miceal o'rourke of the reported starting 15 wouldn't have an all ireland medal?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: CavanCola on June 10, 2008, 03:48:06 PM
Quote from: Uladh on June 10, 2008, 03:38:34 PM
Quote from: CavanCola on June 10, 2008, 03:30:01 PM
"Every one of the Armagh team will have an All-Ireland medal, whether it's the real thing or whether it's an U-21 medal.

That wouldn't be true. off the top of my head - McKinney, mallon, Toner, Martin O'Rourke and Miceal o'rourke of the reported starting 15 wouldn't have an all ireland medal?

Don't be playing it down now Uladh. Donal is right, your coming down to KBP with Medals flowing out of your pockets. We'll let you in at the turnstyles with them or even better you can cash them in at the Imperial Bar later on. ;D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Uladh on June 10, 2008, 03:52:57 PM

Just straightening out oul donal's facts!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Mr. Pain on June 10, 2008, 04:07:12 PM
Cavan Cola you can supply the refreshments if you like. Mr. Pain likes a good old Guinness head on his cola!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Hollow Man on June 10, 2008, 04:50:51 PM
Mr Pain, I'm quitting the panel. I can't play with a reject like BH Man.

(Here it comes...)


In seriousness lads, I'm going to throw out a name here, a fella who would make most county teams in my opinion.

Keith Fannin.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Mr. Pain on June 10, 2008, 05:25:49 PM
HM & BHM will have to work together for the good of the team. HM is correct, in Mr. Pain's opinion, about Keith Fanin. He could do a good job in that backline and may be even better there than P Reilly or Dunne. What about Hannon at FB?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on June 10, 2008, 06:05:23 PM
3 day week done C4E. Next week I'm gonna party like it's 1997. I agree with the general Fanin point and with our lads dropping of the panel in recent times like lemmings off a cliff I wouldn't have begrudged Fanin too much if he'd packed it in. Thing is he's no corner back. I'm not sure which of our managers decided he was but he's not. He's a good attacking wing back or wing forward. Anyway, how about a few in the Breffni before the game. I hear the Guinness is like Cavan Cola.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: gortnaleck on June 11, 2008, 01:08:35 AM
Cavan to take it on Sunday by one or two points.The wide open spaces of Breffni Park should suit Cavan and Armagh would not have a very settled team compared to other years
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on June 11, 2008, 08:41:43 AM
Gortnaleck, by both the content and the time you made your post I think you've been...........................LOCKED IN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!   Keoghan is using his one strong point on supporters as well as players in order to fulfill his ultimate goal of total GAA ruination in the Breffni County. Who we gonna call?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on June 11, 2008, 09:30:11 AM
Armagh don't normally hammer teams but I fear that Sunday could be the exception. I think Francie will handle McCabe on the square. I think Johnson will be marked by Mallon and if he causes too much trouble they'll stick a sweeper in front of him. I think that Armagh at worst will break even around the middle and that they will pump high balls into the FF line where McDonald and Clarke will do serious damage. I can see armagh getting 2/3 goals and winning this game by 6 points or more. I hope I am wrong.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on June 11, 2008, 10:48:35 AM
I'm with you myles. Even if we break even around the middle, Armagh will still be getting enough ball to Stevie & Co. to stick approx 2-15 (that's my go-to scoreline) past our rice-paper defence. The only hope we have is that their forwards have another off day like in the league or we predictably turn in a good performance as plucky underdogs, given that there's absolutely no expectation on us. We tend to play alright on occasions like that, a la versus Tyrone and Armagh a few years ago.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Hollow Man on June 11, 2008, 07:26:34 PM
I think we will be beaten because of weaknesses at the back.

We conceded 1-19 to Longford in a challenge two weeks ago and I think 2-12 or 2-13 against Cork last Friday night.

Also, Flanagan is carrying a hamstring injury - he woud be a massive loss.

I think we'll run up a decent score, maybe 1-12 or more likely 0-15 (seeing as we've only scored two goals all year) but Armagh will probably score more.

The thing is, this is the worst Armagh team for years. They're no great shakes at all but, while home advantage will count for something, we lack either a) the physicality, b) the ball winning ability at the back or c) brains on the sideline to win it.

The jury is out on McDonald at m/f, and while Dunne is a superb 19 year old, it'll be a year or two before he's fit for inter county full back. He'll be Cavan midfielder for years to come when he fills out though.

Martin Reilly is in the form of his life, but then you have Podge and Watters both playing terribly, and one of our best defenders, Fannin, not getting a look in from Peter Stringfellow in the Bainisteoir bib. For every plus there is a negative.

Pierson quit the panel too - another option, albeit an erratic one, gone.

I expect Sean Brady to start, and Keogan may continue his fascination with Jonny Crowe. McKeever will probably start at midfield with McDonald... Hmmm....

I wouldn't rule out a draw with Armagh destorying us the second day, but I'll plump for them to do the job first time out.

Prediction: Armagh 2-13 Cavan 0-15
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on June 12, 2008, 12:38:38 AM
Apparently.....

J Reilly
R Dunne
P O'Reilly
M Hannon
B Watters
A Forde
M Cahill
M McDonald
M McKeever
C Mackey
R Flanagan
M Reilly
S Johnstone
D McCabe
J Reilly

Not a huge surprise, and although Keoghan made a few positional changes before the last day I'd say the team will line out as above.

Looks like Hannon will take McDonald and Podge picking up Clarke.

Dunno about playing a man as small as McKeever in middle especially if McGrane is to be partnered by Toner

The half forward line is again very shy steak dinners.

The bookies aren't even taking a bet on Jason being the first man called to shore.

(EDIT - Just seen on the official match thread that the BBC already had the team  ::))
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on June 12, 2008, 08:45:47 AM
You'll also note Homer that McCabe is named at midfield, McKeever on the 40 and Ronan Flanagan at Full Forward. The obvious guess is that those 3 will switch around with McCabe on the square and McKeever on the 40 but you never know with that old fox Keoghan. Disappointed to see Watters keeping his place. I'm sure he'll turn out to be a fine player but a definite weak link as Rory Dunne is likely to be. Surprised Jason kept his place too as a fit Sean Brady is surely a much better option. Mulvey never plays for more than 10-15 minutes so I'm glad he is where he is. I'm more anxious about the Armagh team to be honest.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Mr. Pain on June 12, 2008, 10:12:01 AM
Mr. Pain was just browsing through the Armagh thread. There is barely a mention of this match at all. For them a win must be a foregone conclusion. Mr. Pain would disagree with Hollow Man anout Crowe. He would bring a bit more power than some of the carboard cut-outs that line out on that team. This is looking like a complete disaster and Cavan will be annihilated. Mr. Pain does not know if he spelt annihilated correctly but he will fast all day in hope that he will be eating his words after the game.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Uladh on June 12, 2008, 11:16:34 AM

The Armagh club thread is for discussion on club football. There's a hint in the title. discussion on the game is in the Cavan Vs Armagh thread (clue in the title), which very few of you boys seem much interested in.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on June 12, 2008, 12:49:24 PM
Quote from: Lawrence of Knockbride on June 12, 2008, 08:45:47 AM
...but you never know with that old fox Keoghan...

;D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Mr. Pain on June 12, 2008, 12:53:08 PM
That was an oversight on Mr. Pain's part. He didn't see the word "club" first time around! iT WILL NEVER HAPPEN AGAIN.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on June 12, 2008, 02:41:14 PM
Im getting to this discussion late

Keith Fannin is a better player than all the following in my opinion, Rory Dunne, Padraig Reily(on current form anyway),Martin Cahill,Anthony Forde and Barry Watters(at this stage in his career),Dermot Sheridan,Johnny Crowe and John McCutcheon
Yet he is nowehere near the reckoning for the team.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on June 12, 2008, 03:27:08 PM
Although I would agree that Fannin has been given a raw deal recently, my sources tell me that he is in poor enough himself of late and doesn't seem to have the same interest anymore. That's just going on what I'm told though as I haven't seen the lad play since he fell out of flavour.

Any word on the fitness of Darren Rabbitte? At the time of his injury i was led to believe it was not too severe.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: CC1 on June 13, 2008, 01:55:42 AM
Quote from: Homer on June 12, 2008, 03:27:08 PM
Although I would agree that Fannin has been given a raw deal recently, my sources tell me that he is in poor enough himself of late and doesn't seem to have the same interest anymore. That's just going on what I'm told though as I haven't seen the lad play since he fell out of flavour.
Seems to be the case alright. He was woeful against us a few weeks back and kicked a sight of balls out over the sideline. When you compare that to the Keith Fannin we faced last year the dip in form is very noticable... Doesn't look interested to me either to be honest.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on June 13, 2008, 09:07:31 AM
 Interesting article from the Echo. Think everybody knows there has been an increasing issue with fellas opting out of county football but when it's brought together in an article like this you really get a feeling for the extent of the problem. The problem was there, I think, before the current management team came on board but it hasn't lessened by the looks of things. Anyway heres hoping for both teams on Sunday, looks like we need a very fast open game at senior level because we sure as heck haven't selected a team to take part in an arm wrestle. 


 

 
 
THE BURNING ISSUE: A chore rather than an honour? 
 
Cavan Echo 
 
By Declan Gallen 
 
30/05/2008 
 
And yet another player falls by the wayside. Gerald Pierson has left the county panel in what will be seen as another blow to the team's build-up for Armagh. Pierson, on form, is one of the best corner forwards in Ulster, but unfortunately he has not been at his best at all this year. It is hard to put your finger on why so many of our players are dropping from the county panel. Is it lack of hunger, lack of opportunities — or lack of motivation?
It does not seem to be a problem in other counties. The turnover in players in Cavan is simply huge. Every year to the next there seems to be a massive clearout of players with new more inexperienced ones in to take their place. A few players stick out already this year: Eamon Reilly from the Gaels, Donal Thomas from Killygarry and Ciaran Galligan from Drung. Reilly and Galligan all played Championship football for Cavan last year and while Thomas didn't, he has been most impressive for Killygarry in their bad performances and good so far this year.
Pierson leaving the panel is a blow no matter what way you dress it up. Accounts will put it that he has not had the hunger to push himself into the starting 15 and from the appearances he has put in he did not look overly intent on keeping a jersey. But how can this be? Rewind to last year's Senior Championship final. Ger Pierson put in one of the most impressive performances seen in Cavan club football this side of the turn of the millennium. He very nearly single-handedly pushed Gowna over the finishing line, shorn as they were of the talismanic Dermot McCabe. Pierson took over McCabe's mantle that day and, despite at times being treble marked, he still managed to give the Gaels back line a severe chasing. The guy is obviously still hell-bent on success for his club, so why would it be any different for the county team.
Add his name to Raymond Galligan, Rory Donohue and Micky Lyng – to name but a few – then you have players who, with a bit of work, could have pushed themselves maybe not into the starting, 15 but surely roles on the bench; Galligan of Lacken especially, on current form, as he beat Belturbet by himself last weekend. He is coming back to himself after injury and the confidence hammer-blow he received in Navan.
With such a small player base in the county, we cannot afford to lose players mid-way through the year. People who come in to replace these bodies will not have the same preparation put in or have the benefits of league football behind them. Whatever happens against Armagh – whether we get beat by twenty points or by two, if we go into the qualifiers and get beat by 10 points or go on to the quarter finals of the All-Ireland – if we win and go on to an Ulster Final, the most worrying thing about this year is why all these players are quitting the county panel in the heat of the summer months.
Easy answer: blame management. Easy answers are not always the correct ones. Any player in this county should be willing to give his right arm to play for Cavan, whether Donal Keoghan, Martin McHugh or Mickey Mouse is over the team. You just don't see that hunger in too many of the players around at the moment. When you see Terry Hyland having to ring up to 60 people just to get twenty to say yes to play for a Cavan development squad, there must be a problem somewhere.
Is the gloss coming off representing Cavan? Would players rather play away for their clubs where the pressure is off and with the spotlight removed from their every step? The rewards of playing at inter-county level do not represent an equal exchange for the amount of time, effort and dedication players are putting in. Training will take over your life, your family and job will play second fiddle. Maybe it is no surprise that players who have been exposed to it so young are stepping away from it long before their prime. In reality, if you are not in one of the top five teams in the country, playing Gaelic football is an occupational hazard that will bring you attention (good or bad) for a maximum of three days a year. The rest of the time you will spend slogging it out in the gym or running the hard yards around a training field. Is it really worth it?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on June 15, 2008, 12:58:06 PM
Alright lads, Judgement day has arrived

i think we are going to sneak it today  ;)

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on June 15, 2008, 06:48:16 PM
Good win for the minors today anyway, i thought they were very impressive and much better than they were against Antrim.
Next Up Future AFLer Kyle Coney and co, should be a terrific game in Clones on the 29th.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on June 15, 2008, 08:33:15 PM
Sorry folks being in exile in the outer regions of the country I was reduced to watching this on the web which is better than nothin but not exactly like being behind the town goals. Looked to me like the expression "thrashed by 4 points" applies. Physical power certainly was an issue all through the game. What the fecking around at midfield with McDonald/Mulvey was is a mystery, and that's being charitable. I don't like having a go a fellas, so will confine it to saying Mulvey was off the pace.............The use, or lack of use, of Sean Brady, who was playing at a gool level at midfield with UCD when the won the Dublin County Championship is a bit of a mystery. Now we knew where the Armagh threat was going to be......Clarke and Stevie, did we have any plan at all to try and deal with them, none that I could see really, certainly not in the first half. On the other hand they knew where our threat lay and they really managed to bottle up Jelly in the first half particularly, mind you the quality of ball going in was nowhere near what Stevie and Ronan were getting.

Final point, almost, Michael Hannon would be considered the nearest thing we have to a man marker well jesus he took some chasing from Stevie today in addition to the one he took from Coulter last year. Has he lost a small bit?

Keogans skills will be stretched to the last now, we might start to see the real fallout from the Chicago last year scene now. While I'm rambling, saw a pic from yesterdays paper of the 04 clash against Armagh and two physical looking lads mixing it with the Armage attack-Rabbitte and Gaynor. Pity, see above article from Gallen in the Echo.

Delighted for our minors, really would love to see them roll Tyrone, and fair play the hype bullshit has been contained so far.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: KIDDO 4 on June 15, 2008, 09:43:00 PM
Mulvey seemed to have his hand bandaged today, perhaps  this is why  he was  so ineffective on his introduction.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: shotstopper1 on June 16, 2008, 08:11:52 AM
The treatment of Declan Gaffney was a disgrace,a lad (centrefielder) who was on the panel all year having to sit on the bench and watching them f**king about with McDonald and Mulvey,surely he should've being given a chance.It wouldn't really give a young lad the desire to put the commitment in for county football now would it?on another note why play a big full forward and not give the ball into him?Also this carry on of bringing good minors from the year before onto the senior panel will have to stop also,it was clear that Watters and Dunne were too light and not up to Championship football.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: CC1 on June 16, 2008, 08:42:25 AM
Anyone know what the official attendance was for the game yesterday? I think I may have won a bet... Unfortunately the only bet I'll have won this weekend. :D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Mr. Pain on June 16, 2008, 09:14:18 AM
Cavan didn't even get the moral victory all thought they would. Mr. Pain is not disappointed really as this was to be expected. It would have been a bigger disappointment if the minors had've lost. Mr. Pain is hungover now though and is starting to lose his typing skills. Rant ongoing!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Hollow Man on June 16, 2008, 11:02:13 AM
This was Hollow Man's prediction:

QuoteI think we will be beaten because of weaknesses at the back.

We conceded 1-19 to Longford in a challenge two weeks ago and I think 2-12 or 2-13 against Cork last Friday night.

I think we'll run up a decent score, maybe 1-12 or more likely 0-15 (seeing as we've only scored two goals all year) but Armagh will probably score more.

The thing is, this is the worst Armagh team for years. They're no great shakes at all but, while home advantage will count for something, we lack either a) the physicality, b) the ball winning ability at the back or c) brains on the sideline to win it.

The jury is out on McDonald at m/f, and while Dunne is a superb 19 year old, it'll be a year or two before he's fit for inter county full back. He'll be Cavan midfielder for years to come when he fills out though.

I wouldn't rule out a draw with Armagh destorying us the second day, but I'll plump for them to do the job first time out.

Prediction: Armagh 2-13 Cavan 0-15

Well, prediction was right (Armagh by four) with both teams scoring exactly two points less than I thought. The amazing thing was that I felt we were well able to compete with Armagh in every section bar midfield.

Johnston was outstanding in the second half, taking the game by the scruff of the neck after a difficult first half. McCabe did quite well too, and at the back, considering the quality ball he was getting, Clarke was curtailed reasonably well by Padraig Reilly.

I felt at half time that Keogan should have taken off Jason and brought Sean Brady on AS A MIDFIELDER to spoil McGrane, thus creating some space for Jelly and McCabe. However, I think Brady was instructed to play as a forward.

Another move I felt he could have made was bringing Martin Reilly back to wing back and taking off Watters, but he left the Drung man on when he wasn't playing well.

In Keogan's defence, we have f**k all options at m/f but surely we have better than Mulvey? And to bring a fella off after he was hopeless, then bring him back on because his replacement was even worse - that is plain embarrassing. I forgot about Gaffney; he must feel he was treated terribly, and rightly so.

Think of the players who have either quit the panel or not been called back - Lyng, Donohoe, Pierson, Chesty, Mickey Brennan (remember him?! At least he would have been fit and given his all, not run around with no boot!), Gaynor, Raymond Galligan, Ciaran Galligan... Some of these lads would have been decent options surely? And what about Cullivan? Is it true he quit because he was pissed off with the manager?

Instead, we were left with a makeshift, cobbled together panel (Eugene Keating listed as a sub? Where did they spring him from? Very promising player, but that just smacks of "make it up as we go along").

The sad thing is we ALMOST have the players. We saw that yesterday. Forde and McCabe played well I thought, and after that almost all of the young players did well enough. McKeever had a stormer on the ball, but he played too deep (as per instructions I'm sure) for a midfielder.

We need a couple of fit, strong and ignorant midfielders and a manager who can motivate and make the big calls.


Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on June 16, 2008, 11:04:30 AM
Here's what I posted on the match thread, it'll do for here as well:

Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on June 15, 2008, 11:28:18 PM
BUT....Cavan as a team are poor.  They have a number of excellent individual players who on their day will cause any opposition trouble.  They, however, have no discernable game plan or style of play.  It is all very individualistic and opportunistic.  The Cavan defence played reasonable well considering the pressure they were under.  They had no midfield.  the forwards are not a unit and did not seem to know what they were at.

Well observed, opportunistic is the word. The lack of cohesion and pattern on the field is entirely in keeping with the scatter gun, panic-button, try anything/try everything approach of the manager off it. It's basically a whole lot of different parts being slotted and moved hither and yon in the hope some of it sticks and something comes off. Never was this better exemplified than when McCabe was forced to stride 40 yards to bawl Martin Cahill out of it for going for a point instead of dropping the ball into the square, promptly ignored by Cahill who just turned his back and trotted off. We singularly failed to hit McCabe for most of the day, despite a number of other apeals from the big man himself. What was our manager doing on the sideline and in training that this hotch-potch, disparate collection of individuals couldn't be coached to play a team game and hit big Dermot with high ball? Three times in the second half a decent ball went into him, the first he blasted over for a point and on the other two occasions the ball broke to Johnston I think and scores came of it. But still we refused to hoist them in there despite the evidence it had Armagh in a degree of trouble. The result probably wouldn't have been any different but it was baffling all the same and I suppose just another bewilderment in the crazy chapter of Keogan's messy reign.

Overall the game went as expected. I'd have taken a four point loss before the game, I expected us to be carved up for goals and only for Miller we would have been dismantled entirely. Our 'midfield' was an embarrassment to our county. McDonald tried hard but was literally stuck to the ground all day, Mulvey's rank lack of fitness was so glaring he looked like a bizarre panto character or something instead of an intercounty footballer and only the industry of McKeever saved us from total and utter wipeout. His performance along with that of Miller, Flanagan, Jelly, Mackey sometimes and Sean Brady to an extent show that there is still something there to work with if we take the long view and are prepared to build from the bottom up for the next two seasons. We'll be a soft touch in the qualifiers now and hopefully that'll be the end of Keogan and we can close the book on this disastrous money-saving adventure.

Armagh still have work to do in my opinion. No other team they meet will offer carte blanche in midfield like we did which will curb the influence of Clarke and McDonnell inside, who are serious box office with the ball in hand and the type of players you're glad to say you saw playing in the flesh. Neither hit top gear today and were still head and shoulders above everyone. I'd also be worried about the full back line against a more mobile, team-work oriented unit who are winning more ball around the middle, but they're worries for another day. Well done to Armagh and best of luck for the rest of the year now.

My day was more or less done once the minors won anyway, fair play to them they made heavy weather of it but in hindsight it's best to come through with ample room to improve and without making too many headlines. It'd be massive for us to make an Ulster final now and get back on the national stage for the first time since the 70s, here's hoping. :)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4sam on June 16, 2008, 12:23:30 PM

Think of the players who have either quit the panel or not been called back - Lyng, Donohoe, Pierson, Chesty, Mickey Brennan (remember him?! At least he would have been fit and given his all, not run around with no boot!), Gaynor, Raymond Galligan, Ciaran Galligan... Some of these lads would have been decent options surely? And what about Cullivan? Is it true he quit because he was pissed off with the manager?

Instead, we were left with a makeshift, cobbled together panel (Eugene Keating listed as a sub? Where did they spring him from? Very promising player, but that just smacks of "make it up as we go along").


Thats the thing, the turnover of players on the panel is far too high, how is a team ever going to progress when they have new men drafted in every couple of weeks? What did Michael McDonald or Lorcan Mulvey offer yesterday that Ciaran Galligan wouldn't have? Galligan started the replay last year and in my opinion done a very god job at what he was told to do which was to curtail Dan Gordan (we all seen how good he is over the last 2 weeks) yet he wasn't deemed good enough this year? Eamonn Reilly, captain of the County Champions, he would surely be good enough to be there, correct me if I am wrong but didn't he start both games against Down last year at CHB. I don't think he has disimproved that much?? Pierson would surely have been a better option to start ahead of Jason or at least be on the panel.

Where did Eugene Keating come from is right!! I know he is an excellent player and definitely a Cavan player for the future but he was asked into the county panel about 10 wks ago and wouldn't join up and now he is listed as a sub yesterday, it tells you all you need to know about the Cavan set up at present!!




Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Hollow Man on June 16, 2008, 01:29:08 PM
As I said on the other thread Maniac, brilliant post there. My sentiments exactly.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Mr. Pain on June 16, 2008, 03:22:58 PM
Eugene Keating is a smart man. He togged out yesterday and that earned him over a grand in grant money. Mr. Pain should have thought of that first.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on June 16, 2008, 05:23:34 PM
Is it that easy though? I thought you had to provide evidence of being on the panel for a good spell of time, level of fitness and so on. I can't see the government handing over lolly if they think any kind of fella that can kick a ball is joining the panel two or three weeks before championship.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on June 16, 2008, 06:28:12 PM
Now if we couldn't compete with them, particularly at midfield could we not at least have tried to stop them playing. In other words, what was the story with Walsh???? Not a great ball player (but we didn't see much of that from anybody eles around the middle either. Is he injured. Christ I even would have tried him at full back by way of giving Ronan something to think about.

If 10% of what I'm reading here is true about comings and goings I better agree it's time for change. Willl be a fairly messy situation for somebody to try to come in and change though, as regards options please don't anybody mention Paidi, he's the current man minus the brains, plus the All Ireland medals and on a par on the "other" stuff
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on June 16, 2008, 11:06:12 PM
It'd be a messy situatio to clear up, but it has to be tackled. That said, most of the 97 crew are all but gone now so if a new manager comes in and tries to build from the bottom up, he'll at least be dealing with lads that have won nothing and so should be hungry and willing to take instruction. That's the theory anyway.

I think we made suggestions a few pages back as to potential replacements, my shouts (and I hope to Jesus I'm not tempting fate here and that Keogan might actually decide to stay) would be Charlie Mulgrew or Dessie Dolan Snr as he'll likely finish up in Leitrim this year. Páidí I wouldn't have him around the place, a bit too impulsive and definitely not what's required.

Whether we like it or not, someone like Mickey Moran would inevitably be mentioned as well and some of the big corporate hitters might bankroll a move for Mickey Harte if he becomes available ;)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on June 16, 2008, 11:39:36 PM
dont think Paidi O Se would come this far North again,even if we did want him.

Couldnt see Joe Kernan taking it.

Most Likely as Maniac said
Charlie Mulgrew
Mickey Moran
Dessie Dolan

id add in
Brian McIvor(probably will be finished with Donegal this year although may get the Derry job)

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: gortnaleck on June 17, 2008, 02:51:44 AM
I did not see the game yet and I was listening to Northern Sound so I think we got beaten.We seemed to play up to our ability though and to be beaten by just four points is a bit flattering.I don't know much about Keegan's ability as a manager but you could give that panel (add Pierson,Gaynor whoever) to any manager you like and it still would not be better on paper or on the field than the Armagh team.Of course this is from someone who didn't even see the game andwas hearing about fundraisers up in Maghera.There are a lot of tough teams in the qualifiers also so it's going to be hard to progress.I just think we have to be realistic about what is available and keep adding to what is a young team that could have sat down and took a good beating on Sunday but kept playing tough to the end having pretty much being outplayed at midfield for the duration
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on June 17, 2008, 10:47:16 AM
Well it was a disapointing if not suprising result on Sunday. I said here before that we would need to win midfield to have a chance and we were a million miles from doing that. Armagh could have easily hammered us if they had taken their goal chances. It was impossible to rank our FB line as they were under immense pressure, at times Podge did ok on Clarke but Hannon had a really tough time. It is also interesting to watch how McDonnell and Clarke link up, looping around each other almost telepathically. Our forward line is still to individualistic for my liking. Half back line tried hard but struggled and midfield was a wipeout although McKeever worked very hard. half Forward line weren't really in it much and were crowded out. Our lack of size really showed up here. Johnstone had a good 2nd half but his childish behavior at the end of the match (bitching to ref and umpire for about 5 mins, then doing his best to get sent of by making reckless challenges) is why many people just don't take to him. He want to develop some dignity to go with his skills. We were outclassed by a much better team in the end and no one can argue that. However, the actions on the line were yet again bizarre. Taking off McDonald putting on Mulvey and then taking off Mulvey was a joke even by Keoghans standards. After the game he said Mulveys hamstring injury flared up which is pure dung as Mulvey was clearly not happy being taken off. Gaffney must be seriously pissed of he didn't get a run. Also we had McCabe FF and hardly a ball put into him, if the ball wasn't going to be put in then why not move him out to fix midfield. Instead we just ended up wasting one of our best players. I heard that Walsh is injured since the challenge match with Sligo a few weeks ago. Apparently, Keoghan held an all-day training camp on a Saturday 2 weeks before the Antrim game. They started training at 10am, had a break mid day and went back at it in the evening. I heard it was a very very tough day. Then Keoghan has a challenge match against Sligo the next day. Most of the players can hardly get up at half time to go back out on the pitch they are so wrecked. Walsh picked up an injury in that game. Why oh why would a manager do the like of that 2 wks before a championship match is beyond me when the likes of Tyrone hardly train at all leading into these games.

The minors were quiet good but were helped by an strange decision by the Armagh management to remove the sweeper they had with the wind in the 1st half. The tactic worked very well for them but when the sweeper was removed Cavan totally took over. I really hope  they can take Tyrone now and maybe we can get some joy this summer.

As for the seniors in the back door, there are a lot of big guns in there and I also wonder will we lose many more players to abroad. I can't really see us getting a decent run in it to be honest, which will hopefully result in the speedy departure of Keoghan. Who will take over is the question. I am hearing the name Stephen King everywhere I go and it fills me full of fear. Great player but just as bad as Keoghan on the line. His stock is rising due to the good run Killeshandra are having - but I assure you this is in spite of him. If you don't believe me ask anyone who has played under him. Joe Kernan would be the ideal man but he is getting into TV work and I'd imagine he'll advance that career instead. Mulgrew could be the man.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on June 17, 2008, 10:50:18 AM
Most of that is true gortnaleck but you could also give it to almost any other manager and you'd at least be sure that the side was properly prepared and run in a professional fashion, and in that sense, gave themselves the best chance against the opposition even if it might have ended in failure.
I don't think anybody expects we'd be in an All-Ireland final with a different manager, what's nagging at us all is that we'd be alot better and more comeptitive with someone who instilled discipline, manged men better and has a better grounding in tactics and so on. I guess in a nutshell we'd be happy if we felt we gave ourselves the best conceivable chance every time we took the field.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on June 17, 2008, 10:58:59 AM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on June 17, 2008, 10:47:16 AM
Johnstone had a good 2nd half but his childish behavior at the end of the match (bitching to ref and umpire for about 5 mins, then doing his best to get sent of by making reckless challenges) is why many people just don't take to him. He want to develop some dignity to go with his skills.

Have to say I agree there, I was very much in fear he'd get the line and give the Armagh fans something to jeer about. He was clearly frustrated and all but that's little excuse.

I forgot to put it in my original run down of the game but it was also very noticeable the lack of team-ethic that nobody pulled Johnstone aside and told him to calm down. They all just stood back and watched him potentially walking into a suspension for the qualifiers. ???
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on June 17, 2008, 01:34:36 PM
Cavanmaniac & Myles summed up everything pretty well. As well as Gaffney we also had John Cunningham on the bench  who started the league at midfield. We also had McCabe & Forde who, despite their dedication to the cause, feel the need to attack the officials with the game going on around them. They're unlikely to learn at this stage.

I still think the minors aren't playing as a team with a lot of the lads putting the head down and running before having a look. Fortunately our wing forwards were very good at doing that but ultimately I think Graham needs to address this.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Hollow Man on June 17, 2008, 02:11:00 PM
Quoteas regards options please don't anybody mention Paidi, he's the current man minus the brains, plus the All Ireland medals and on a par on the "other" stuff

Unlike the current man, who has never managed even a club team, Paidi has done the business with Kerry, and even more impressively, with Westmeath, whose famine was even worse than ours (ie they'd never won ANYTHING). He was a disaster for Clare though.

Trying to work out Keogan's managerial record in the championship (minor and senior). As far as I know, with the minors they lost in the first round to Down in his first year and then beat Antrim and lost a replay to Down the second year.

With the seniors, they lost a replay to Down, then lost to Mayo in the first year, then beat Antrim and lost to Armagh this year.

With the Under 21s we've lost the first round to years in a row.

So excluding the worst team in the province and one of the worst in Ireland, Antrim, Keogan's championship record as a manager reads:

PLAYED 9
WON    0
LOST    7
DREW   2

Pathetic.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: CavanCola on June 17, 2008, 02:54:38 PM
Quote from: Hollow Man on June 17, 2008, 02:11:00 PM
Quoteas regards options please don't anybody mention Paidi, he's the current man minus the brains, plus the All Ireland medals and on a par on the "other" stuff

Unlike the current man, who has never managed even a club team, Paidi has done the business with Kerry, and even more impressively, with Westmeath, whose famine was even worse than ours (ie they'd never won ANYTHING). He was a disaster for Clare though.

Trying to work out Keogan's managerial record in the championship (minor and senior). As far as I know, with the minors they lost in the first round to Down in his first year and then beat Antrim and lost a replay to Down the second year.

With the seniors, they lost a replay to Down, then lost to Mayo in the first year, then beat Antrim and lost to Armagh this year.

With the Under 21s we've lost the first round to years in a row.

So excluding the worst team in the province and one of the worst in Ireland, Antrim, Keogan's championship record as a manager reads:

PLAYED 9
WON    0
LOST    7
DREW   2

Pathetic.



Paidi was blessed and in the right place at the right time for westmeath. Luke Dempsey deserved and should have been the man who got Westmeath to the Leinster title. Instead Paidi like some type of Cuckoo swooped into the nest. Damien O'Reilly should have finished him off in 1997 when he charged onto the field.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Hollow Man on June 17, 2008, 04:22:31 PM
QuotePaidi was blessed and in the right place at the right time for westmeath. Luke Dempsey deserved and should have been the man who got Westmeath to the Leinster title.

You're right. Ger Loughnane was also in the right place at the right time when he led Clare from the wilderness in 95, sure Len Gaynor "deserved" that one.

Remember when Joe Kernan won an All Ireland in his first year with Armagh? Brian Canavan and Brian McAlinden "should have been" the men to lead Armagh to that.

There's no such thing as being lucky in that instance, when a team is winning a title for the first time or coming off a long famine. The manager always plays a much more important role in those sort of wins, because those type of victories require players to be dragged across a psychological barrier, and it takes a charismatic motivator who is a real leader to do so - in short, an excellent manager.

Think of:

Martin McHugh - ended the 28 year famine with us
Micko in Kildare - 42 year famine
Micko in Laois - something similar
Liam Griffin - 30 years

Justin McCarthy in Waterford - they hadn't won a Munster since late 50's and hadn't even competed well in decades. Gerald McCarthy takes over and they draw a Munster final (98) but, crucially, don't cross that line. In Justin McCarthy's first year, they are Munster champions, and they've done it twice since.

Nobody calls Justin "blessed" or says Gerald McCarthy "deserved to win it".

Remember, Paidi also won two senior All Irelands and an Under 21 and a NFL with Kerry. Hardly should be compared with Keogan.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Mr. Pain on June 17, 2008, 04:53:07 PM
You go girl!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on June 17, 2008, 06:03:53 PM
Páidí certainly has something alright but his commitment to any job outside of Kerry is questionable.

He took the Westmeath job very soon after being snubbed for another term in Kerry, which smacked of wanting to stick it to the powers that be at home more than any great desire to lead Westmeath per se. He did however work the oracle with the Lake county but it is true to say (as I recall) that he had a very seasoned team to work with and was basically providing the elusive last 5% to get an experienced team over the line. It's like when you're stuck on the last clue in a crossword for hours and then someone saunters over, takes one look and solves it in an instant. There didn't seem to be any real donkey work to be done as such and I think he showed his true colours when he more or less went through the motions the year after despite seeming to have a good platform to build on.

He was rumoured to be sniffing for the Kerry job again before Pat O'Shea got it and then promptly hopped into bed with Clare, again a move that looked rash and impetuous.

So my opinion is that Hollowman is right about Páidí's specific 'mojo' and special abilities when he's switched on but I wouldn't have him round the place where a real job requiring commitment and long term hard work is required, such as is the case in Cavan.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on June 17, 2008, 08:14:49 PM
Howya Hollow Man, can I take it that your last post is a statement of opinion rather than supposed fact? Some good points in there but plenty to take issue with. First things first we need somebody in who is going to help effect an absolutely major change in attitude and approach, too many of your examples already had the foundations in place and had the luxury of being able to concentrate on delivering the missing 5%:

Westmeath and Laois-number of years of success at underage level and a consequent conveyor belt of talent coming through in a province that was waiting for teams to make the breakthrough. There was great jubilation when the made the break but not total surprise as I recall.

McHugh was our best, most successful and luckiest coach in the last 20 or so years. Two Cavan teams have contested football All Irelands in the last 56 years and he playeres from both of them available to him. Club scene wasn't half bad either if you cast your mind back to Gowna and Bailieborough's Ulster Club exploits. He certainly helped deliver the missing 5%. The new man in, if there is to be one, will have an awful lot tougher time on his hands, club scene poor and absolutely no success at underage level of several years, plus what looks like numerous disillusioned players at the way they have been pissed around over the past number of years, some but not all by the current management setup either.

Exploits of Wexford hurling of absolutely no relevance to our situation since winning an All Ireland out of Leinster in the mid-90's about the equivalent of winning a Connacht football championship, bang the door often enough and eventually it might open.

My comments on Paidi were partly tongue in cheek and bear out the fact that not all social animals in this country have to live within 5 miles of the Imperial, anyway Maniac has dealt with that matter pretty well.

Otherwise, would agree with  most of what you say
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Hollow Man on June 17, 2008, 09:24:27 PM
That "last 5%" is harder to get than the first "95%" in my opinion. To make that final breakthrough, to cross the line - that's the sign of a great manager.

I think the Wexford analogy is relevant. Your point about winning an All Ireland out of Leinster in the id 90s is invalid. '96 was when Clare were at their peak and Limerick were still brilliant (Limerick threw away the 94 All Ireland). So Wexford had to first get out of Leinster (no mean feat with that amazing Offaly team, and Kilkenny there, plus 30 years of failure on their shoulders), and then beat Galway.

Meanwhile, Limerick got a handy semi against Antrim. Wexford had a tough route, beating teams that had contested the previous two All Ireland finals. Having won nothing for 30 years, losing countless provincial and league finals in the process, I doubt it was an inevitability that they would win an All Ireland.

Surely if it was Cavan would have won more than one Ulster SFC in 40 odd years, "bang the door often often" and so on...

I'm not saying for a second that we should get Paidi, in his current incarnation, in as manager. We saw from his tenure in Clare that he probably has lost the hunger at this stage, but there's still no denying that he was a great manager.

And if we are being pedantic here, you will find that McHugh was in his second year in the job when the 96 team reached the All Ireland final. Was it "luck" on his part to happen upon such a fine bunch, or was he the reason, or a good part of it, that they reached our second national final in 50 odd years?

PS: Keogan has the Cavan job as long as he wants it in my opinion, sad as it sounds. Having bought his way in (rumour has it), he will stay as long as he feels like it.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on June 17, 2008, 09:43:05 PM
PS: Keogan has the Cavan job as long as he wants it in my opinion, sad as it sounds. Having bought his way in (rumour has it), he will stay as long as he feels like it.


Jesus
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on June 17, 2008, 10:34:08 PM
Quote from: anglocelt39 on June 17, 2008, 09:43:05 PM
PS: Keogan has the Cavan job as long as he wants it in my opinion, sad as it sounds. Having bought his way in (rumour has it), he will stay as long as he feels like it.


Jesus

Unfortunately that's not the first time I've heard that either...
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on June 18, 2008, 09:36:57 AM
One other thing I forgot to mention. I believe Fannin fell out of favour with Keoghan in a big way cos he played a club match for Drumgoon when instructed not to. Heard this from a lad from cootehill at the match. This happened after he had been left on the bench for the whole league. Maybe Mr Keoghan doesn't want some of his players to play for anyone!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on June 18, 2008, 11:42:14 AM
Ah Jasus. I'd heard that Keogan himself stated he'd be gone as soon as we were finished in championship. I do have a nagging fear that when the time comes he'll find reasons to reappoint himself. The craven county board being in thrall to his wallet doesn't surprise me in the least, but I had hoped that even Keogan would have the presence of mind to walk away.

Hope the rumours are wrong is all I can say.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: CavanCola on June 18, 2008, 02:32:36 PM
Quote from: Hollow Man on June 17, 2008, 09:24:27 PM
That "last 5%" is harder to get than the first "95%" in my opinion. To make that final breakthrough, to cross the line - that's the sign of a great manager.

I think the Wexford analogy is relevant. Your point about winning an All Ireland out of Leinster in the id 90s is invalid. '96 was when Clare were at their peak and Limerick were still brilliant (Limerick threw away the 94 All Ireland). So Wexford had to first get out of Leinster (no mean feat with that amazing Offaly team, and Kilkenny there, plus 30 years of failure on their shoulders), and then beat Galway.

Meanwhile, Limerick got a handy semi against Antrim. Wexford had a tough route, beating teams that had contested the previous two All Ireland finals. Having won nothing for 30 years, losing countless provincial and league finals in the process, I doubt it was an inevitability that they would win an All Ireland.

Surely if it was Cavan would have won more than one Ulster SFC in 40 odd years, "bang the door often often" and so on...

I'm not saying for a second that we should get Paidi, in his current incarnation, in as manager. We saw from his tenure in Clare that he probably has lost the hunger at this stage, but there's still no denying that he was a great manager.

And if we are being pedantic here, you will find that McHugh was in his second year in the job when the 96 team reached the All Ireland final. Was it "luck" on his part to happen upon such a fine bunch, or was he the reason, or a good part of it, that they reached our second national final in 50 odd years?

PS: Keogan has the Cavan job as long as he wants it in my opinion, sad as it sounds. Having bought his way in (rumour has it), he will stay as long as he feels like it.


I'm not convinced that Paidi had lost anything when he got to Clare - he brought along his 5% of "Mojo" but that alone is not what a manager should bring.

In Westmeath it was his side kick Tomas O'Fleaharta that done all the hard graft and Luke Dempsey in previous years before him. Westmeath had some fantastic minor teams from about 1992 onwards. They were unlucky not to pick up more than one minor allireland back then bar their 1995 one. Good Meath teams robbed them on a few occasions after replays in the leinster minor champioship from 1992 onwards. So the foundations were definitely there to start with. Paidi is the high profile media star so he got all the accolades.

Mchugh brought the 5% Mojo to cavan but he also done his fair share of the 95% donkey work. I think Mchugh could have probably seen the potential that was there in Cavan at the time before he took the job.  In 92 when he won his allireland medal wasn't it Cavan that came closed to beating Donegal that year in Breffnie Park? I have always thought that the Cavan team around that time (90-94) would have benifited alot from a back door competition as ulster was so strong at the time.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Hollow Man on June 18, 2008, 03:09:25 PM
I hear what you're saying about Paidi, but I don't agree.

Examine his achievements in the game.

This is a man who won I think eight All Ireland medals and conceded somehting like three points to his direct opponent in All Ireland finals. He then managed Kerry to two All Ireland senior titles (ending an 11 year 'famine' for them, and beating the shite out of Cavan en route), an Under 21 (beating Cavan) and an NFL.

He then went on to Westmeath and won their first ever Leinster title.

In short, the man is an out and out winner.

Whether Westmeath had a couple of decent minor teams (incidentally, that 95 minor team, bar one or two players, disappeared without trace) or not, it still took a great manager to knit everything together - to get the right backroom team (so O Fatharta put in a lot of work? That's what Paidi picked him for), to get the players motivated and to instill the confidence to drag them across that elusive finishing line.

For all their talent, this was a bunch of players who were as menatlly fragile as you'd ever see. As someone pointed out, they lost a lot of close decisions at minor level and if anyone can remember all the times they let Meath off the hook at senior level around 2000 to 2003....

And as for the earlier point about Luke Dempsey - with all due respect to the man, he hasn't exactly turned Longford, who have a similar profile (long famine, successful college side, superb minor team a couple of years ago), into world beaters, so I doubt he'd have done it with Westmeath.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: CavanCola on June 18, 2008, 03:34:51 PM
See your point Hollow Man.
I think its the whole Media profile of the man that drives me nuts.

Some teams are easier to manage than others .When I look at other sports I think of the American basketball team of 1992. The infamous dream team. As management goes there wasn't really much to do here - it was just a matter of telling the lads to go out and do their best. I'd liken this to some of Paidi's sucess espeically his allIreland wins with Kerry. Its not every GAA team in the country that had at the time the likes of the talent of Maurice Fitz, MF Russell , Seamus Moynihan etc to draw on. I probably could have managed the 1997 Kerry team fairly well from my PC here. ;D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on June 18, 2008, 04:49:29 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on June 18, 2008, 09:36:57 AM
One other thing I forgot to mention. I believe Fannin fell out of favour with Keoghan in a big way cos he played a club match for Drumgoon when instructed not to. Heard this from a lad from cootehill at the match. This happened after he had been left on the bench for the whole league. Maybe Mr Keoghan doesn't want some of his players to play for anyone!

And your point is?

Hasn,t always been the case that once you are on the panel (team and SUBS), you do what the managers asks you.  If you can't do that, either resign from the panel or go for the manager's job.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on June 18, 2008, 05:48:51 PM
yeh to be fair our Ballyhaises's own Sean McCormack  and indeed Ray when he wasnt injured,
werent used in the league at all and was a panel member, and despite us asking they werent allowed to play in a few League games the week before NFL Matches.

the 10 day rule is one i hate and it really affects the lads from 26-30 on the county panel as they get very little game time while the county is still Playing.

10 days before a championship i wouldnt mind, but National League games,Its bullshit.

However if a manager enforces it all the players have to adhere to it.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on June 19, 2008, 10:29:23 AM
Quote from: Denn Forever on June 18, 2008, 04:49:29 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on June 18, 2008, 09:36:57 AM
One other thing I forgot to mention. I believe Fannin fell out of favour with Keoghan in a big way cos he played a club match for Drumgoon when instructed not to. Heard this from a lad from cootehill at the match. This happened after he had been left on the bench for the whole league. Maybe Mr Keoghan doesn't want some of his players to play for anyone!

And your point is?

Hasn,t always been the case that once you are on the panel (team and SUBS), you do what the managers asks you.  If you can't do that, either resign from the panel or go for the manager's job.

My point is that it is a fairly brainless rule to ask fringe players to not play for their clubs, especially players that haven't even had a game at all. Keoghan isn't the only manager in Ireland doing this but it does go well with the other brainless things he has done over the past year.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on June 19, 2008, 10:54:14 AM
Ballinagh beaten by Killygarry 0-6 1-8 last night. Wasn't at the game so can only tell you what I've heard. Apparently we were missing a couple who couldn't make it home for the game couldn't tell you if Killygarry had anyone missing for similar reasons. Adrian Maguire was carrying an injury so he started on the bench before being introduced as a sub only to be giving his marching orders for ploughing into Martin Reilly. Killygarry the better team throughout and fully deserved the win, will be big lift to them a month ahead of the championship meeting.

Other results...

Drumalee 0-12 2-12 Castlerahan

Belturbet 2-10 0-8 Cavan Gaels

Ballyhaise 0-10 2-13 Crosserlough
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: CoillyG on June 19, 2008, 11:06:58 AM
Martin Reilly's had his nose broken in that incident. The ref, Gerry Sheridan was hit after the game by a Ballinagh supporter. Assaulting officials seems to be a problem among Ballinagh supporters. Again the club is let down by one idiot. Killygarry have put together a fine run of form.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on June 19, 2008, 11:15:39 AM
Quote from: CoillyG on June 19, 2008, 11:06:58 AM
Martin Reilly's had his nose broken in that incident. The ref, Gerry Sheridan was hit after the game by a Ballinagh supporter. Assaulting officials seems to be a problem among Ballinagh supporters. Again the club is let down by one idiot. Killygarry have put together a fine run of form.

Are you serious? Hadn't heard anything about that.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Mr. Pain on June 19, 2008, 11:26:46 AM
Yep, Mr. Pain also heard that Gerry Sheridan was assaulted by a Ballinagh "supporter". It was a brave man to do it as Gerry is a big fcuker! It seems that that same section of Ballinagh "supporters" are still giving the club a bad name. Mr. Pain was also informed of Reilly's broken nose and was told that Tomas Leonard was unlucky to be sent off as Rory Brennan ducked into the the tackle thus getting a skite in the head rather than the shoulder.

Disclaimer: Don't take Mr. Pain's word for it as this is only second hand information.

Rant over!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on June 19, 2008, 11:54:56 AM
Drung were beat by Drumlane last night.  Another masterclass of referering by Packie.  He is another ref that does be lucky not to get a slap, not that i condone hitting referee's.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on June 19, 2008, 12:24:29 PM
as Homer said Crosserlough hammered us last night, we were atrocious.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Maximus Marillius on June 19, 2008, 12:32:45 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on June 19, 2008, 12:24:29 PM
as Homer said Crosserlough hammered us last night, we were atrocious.


:D :D :D nothing changes    :D :D  from tripe to tripe BHM ;) ;)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on June 19, 2008, 12:36:39 PM
Quote from: Maximus Marillius on June 19, 2008, 12:32:45 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on June 19, 2008, 12:24:29 PM
as Homer said Crosserlough hammered us last night, we were atrocious.


:D :D :D nothing changes    :D :D  from tripe to tripe BHM ;) ;)

damn thats like a dagger through the Heart Maxi,  :(
Im utterly distraught now.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on June 19, 2008, 06:42:52 PM
I heard pretty similar to what Mr. Pain said but in addition McCarthy and the Ballinagh umpire made their feelings known when Maguire got sent off with McCarthy getting a yellow and the umpire being sent off. Also I heard that Gerry Sheridan wanted to call the guards following the assault (him being a guard also) but was convinced otherwise. It happened up outside the dressing rooms and Morris is well pissed off with the culprit. What's the story with the Gaels result does anyone know?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on June 20, 2008, 02:29:15 PM
Was just filled in on the story there last night, a third party account so possibly not completely accurate.

I won't be naming names but I must say I'm surprised at the offender in question as it seems very out of character for him.

Allegedly, after the game Sheridan was just after leaving the pitch when said individual approached him and began remonstrating with him, the two exchanged words and before the Ballinagh man gave him a puck in the chest. Sheridan grabbed him and put him against the wall but after a short while the two were separated. Apparently the villain later apologised to Sheridan who in turn accepted it.

Again I wasn't present but my source seemed very surprised as it was well-accepted that Killygarry were fully deserved of the win.

It truly depresses me to see the name of the club tarnished through the idiotic actions of grown men who should know a lot better. Some hefty repercussions could be on the way for Ballinagh  :'(
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on June 20, 2008, 02:58:24 PM
Ballinagh seem to be getting a reputation for this type of thing, admittedly based on just two incidents I'm aware of but unfortunately that's all it takes. Every club has its lunatics...
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on June 21, 2008, 03:15:16 PM
Ive always stayed out of any Ballinagh bashing because of the histories of incidents between players of our respective clubs, on the field and off it aswell!!!!

They do have a few middle-aged supporters that are loud mouths and very aggressive which ive seen at a fair few games as a neutral.Its only a few individuals who are doing the hundreds of other club members a disservice and blackening the clubs name by their actions.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Hollow Man on June 23, 2008, 02:05:30 AM
I hear Martin Reilly had his nose broken as well...

The CCC came down hard here but to be fair, once can be excused but two "assaults" on an official and the club shoud be hit with a suspension.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Mr. Pain on June 23, 2008, 10:10:07 AM
Watcha gonna do?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on June 23, 2008, 03:46:08 PM
We were told yesterday that Ballinagh as a club have been suspended for 6 months,so yesterday would be their last league game and they would be relegated from the senior championship without even playing a game.

Yet no mention of it in those suspensions.

Homer will know the full story.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on June 23, 2008, 04:46:47 PM
So what does that mean. Are the relegated in the league or do they just stick on the points they have and hope that no one below catches them. I expect it means they are relegated from the senior championship. If the above is true I'd say that "supporter" is not too popular around the 'nagh.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on June 23, 2008, 04:50:39 PM
They could be relegated in the league aswell.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on June 23, 2008, 04:55:43 PM
what we were told yesterday is
That yesterday was their last game that they would stay on 10 points now, and hope no-one caught them,Thing is though, because we were forced to play them when this ban was known,
at least two of our rivals in the relegation, think its belturbet and Castlerahan get a free 2 points each as Ballinagh cant play against them  >:(  >:(  >:(  >:(
Its a fuckin shambles if its true
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on June 23, 2008, 09:04:04 PM
From Hoganstand....

As BHM says, no mention of the club being banned....

Ref assailant gets two-year ban
23 June 2008


A football supporter in Cavan has been hit with a massive 96-week suspension following an attack on a referee in the county last week.

Former Mullahoran and Cavan player Gerry Sheridan was allegedly assaulted in the dressing room by a supporter of host club Ballinagh following their Division 1 league clash with Killygarry last Wednesday night. During the game itself, Killygarry and Cavan half forward Martin Reilly sustained a broken nose and one player from each team was red-carded.

The Cavan Competitions Control Committee has reacted to last Wednesday's incident by handing out bans totalling 184 weeks, including 96 weeks for the Ballinagh supporter who is alleged to have carried out the assault on the referee.

"There was an incident coming off the pitch last Wednesday night where a referee was struck," confirmed Cavan PRO Mark Gillick.

"There was an investigation by the CCC in Cavan and they doled out the suspensions on Saturday. One player who was dismissed got 12 weeks, another got eight weeks, another four weeks, while two supporters got eight weeks, one 24 weeks and another 96 weeks."

Ballinagh, who are the reigning Cavan and Ulster intermediate club champions, were also in the news for the wrong reasons last February when one of their supporters ran onto the pitch during the All-Ireland semi-final against Fingal Ravens and assaulted an umpire before being led away in handcuffs by gardai.

"Ballinagh were already on a warning from the Fingal Ravens intermediate semi-final," Gillick said.

"They were dealt with by Croke Park for that. In a way, this is kind of a repeat incident which is why the suspensions were so serious."
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: North Longford on June 24, 2008, 08:58:32 AM
From the Indo

IN the latest crackdown on GAA indiscipline, a Cavan club was left reeling yesterday by the news that its senior teams have been banned from all competitions for six months.

As the GAA at national level has adopted a 'zero-tolerance' approach in recent weeks, Cavan's Competition Controls Committee has followed suit and suspended Ballinagh for six months following an assault on a local referee.

The Cavan CCC met twice over the weekend and opted to suspend the Ballinagh senior team, as well as a host of supporters involved in verbally and physically abusing referee Gerry Sheridan last week. Ballinagh are expected to appeal the decision that puts them out of the Cavan senior championship and league.

They only won the Cavan intermediate championship in 2007 and progressed to the All-Ireland IFC semi-final in Navan last February when they were involved in another controversial incident that earned a two-year ban for a supporter who entered the pitch and struck an umpire after one of their players had been sent off.

This time the Cavan CCC has decided to punish the club and they will play no more competitive football in 2008 unless they can appeal successfully.

Sheridan -- a garda -- was refereeing a Cavan league match between the hosts Ballinagh and Killygarry on Wednesday night last. Three players were sent off in the course of the game and the current Cavan player Martin Reilly, who plays with Killygarry, suffered a broken nose.

During the game, Sheridan was verbally abused by one of his umpires, who was from the home club, and had to replace him. As Sheridan, a former Cavan footballer, was making his way off the pitch afterwards he was confronted by a number of Ballinagh supporters. One 'fan' is alleged to have struck him three times and as a result has picked up a 96-week ban.

The umpire was one of two Ballinagh supporters to be banned for eight weeks while a fourth supporter was hit with a six-month suspension. Sheridan provided a detailed report of the incident to Cavan CCC, who met on Friday night last for three hours before convening again the following day to complete their proposals.

Ballinagh will be afforded a hearing and are understandably keen to have the ban imposed on their activities turned over.

The suspension imposed on the Ulster intermediate champions is further evidence of the GAA's 'get tough' measures on indiscipline.

Last year, Cavan showed a swift and ruthless approach to a melee that broke out at the end of a senior championship first-round game between Cavan Gaels and Gowna. Suspensions and fines were handed down and the teams later met in the championship and league finals, which passed off without incident.

- Colm Keys

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on June 24, 2008, 11:35:33 AM
In instances like this what do the players do?

Some will obviously Transfer to the States to play football.

Will any others transfer away  to other clubs for the rest of the year so they can play championship football??

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on June 24, 2008, 11:57:31 AM
From a long distance away let me guess one key aspect of the profile of the bonehead who took on Gerry Sheridan-never kicked a ball in anger worth talking about at any level? Just a guess but would not be surprised. I can remember back to the days when Gerry Sheridan was a minor footballer and even in those days the Nagh was not the first place on your list of must get to venues for an away fixture. It's a shame for lots of good decent players involved and of absolutely no good to football in the county that this is probably as close as we'll get to making national headlines this year. You had to see it coming though-Dubs V Meath and the Galvin incident. I'm totally in support of the general move to clean things up but there will be innocent victims along the way until people start to get the message.

Are our minors out on Sunday-absolutely massive day for them because if the system is the same as last year provincial finalists are in an All Ireland Quarter. Here's hoping, will be a huge day at Clones for the senior game.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on June 24, 2008, 12:16:11 PM
Yes - minors are playing Tyrone in Clones on Sunday. Best of luck to them.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on June 24, 2008, 12:29:01 PM
Will Niall McDermott follow the fashion now and opt out of the minor side in protest at how his club has been dealt with? That'd be just typical with the minors needing all hands on deck against Tyrone, who I presume are excellent at this level as usual...
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on June 24, 2008, 12:59:01 PM
Are any of the panelists from Ballinagh?  If so, can they still play?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on June 24, 2008, 01:31:31 PM
Playing St Finbarrs in U21s at their home venue.  Which one is it?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Mr. Pain on June 25, 2008, 04:30:34 PM
Hello. Helllloooooooo. Hellllloooooooooooooooooo! Anybody here?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on June 25, 2008, 04:35:40 PM
I am here - just waiting for Homer to come back in and tell us  the craic. Maybe the CB have banned ballinagh posters too!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Mr. Pain on June 25, 2008, 05:02:34 PM
Mr. Pain thinks that the meeting has been delayed until Friday night and the outcome will not be known until after that. Mr. Pain finds it kinda funny. Some supporters are just idiots! The Ballinagh ones are worst because every club has a few but Ballinagh have a lot of these stupid bas***ds who heckle referees, officials, opposition players, opposition management, opposition supporters and even their own players and management whenever the opportunity arises. They seem to go to games just for that purpose. Mr. Pain has encountered this on numerous occasions. It is frustrating and Mr. Pain often feels like inflicting maximum pain on these lugs but unlike some he has restraint. Rant over!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on June 27, 2008, 08:29:04 AM
Anyone heading the Minor Semi Final on Sunday. Might make the trip up myself. Hopefully we'll get a result which will minimum get us a place in  the All Ireland quarter final. That would be a great achievement given our terrible runs in previous years.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on June 27, 2008, 03:50:42 PM
Jasus, Ulster Minor Semi and senior qualifier draw this weekend and not a peep out of anyone. Has there been a nuclear explosion in Cavan in my absense. Good luck to our minors. Our seniors need more than luck I am afraid.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: The Bottom Brick on June 27, 2008, 04:01:08 PM
Long time away from the board!

I have a feeling that we'll take Tyrone this Sunday. I was very impressed with the way Cavan kicked on late in the game against Armagh.

The two wing forwards and two midfielders are excellent, though I think McClarey should start.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on June 27, 2008, 04:12:55 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on June 27, 2008, 08:29:04 AM
Anyone heading the Minor Semi Final on Sunday. Might make the trip up myself. Hopefully we'll get a result which will minimum get us a place in  the All Ireland quarter final. That would be a great achievement given our terrible runs in previous years.
The Game is all Ticket Myles so cant see too many Cavan Fans being at it.

Also Welcome Back to the board Brick.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on June 27, 2008, 04:55:58 PM
Just sticking my head in door as I'm absolutely buried with work this week.

Anyway to cut a long story short you may not be surprised to find that I think the ban is ridiculous.

I just can't see how the county board can punish the players of Ballinagh who had absolutely nothing to do with the incident. The lads worked their bo***ks off, to finally return Ballinagh to Division One football after 15 years of trying and why should the luantic actions of a "fan" take that away from them. At the end of the day they just want to play football.

If the ban does go ahead the fallout from this could be catastrophic for GAA in Ballinagh.

As for all the open questions on the suspension I'm afraid I know as much as yourselves as to what the ban actually entails, for instance the Junior Division 4 Championship requires players are not involved with the Senior Championship so I guess we have a full squad for it then.

Ballinagh put forward their appeal tonight. but with all the media attention it's hard to see the CB budging.


Anyway best of luck to the minors on Sunday and see ye in Clones
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on June 27, 2008, 05:20:44 PM
It is a harsh sentence but we need to make an example someplace.  There was a lot of kudos on the main board about the stand thatt the CB made.

How will the GAA be affected in Ballinagh?  All other teams as far as I understand will still be operating.  You'll have one hell of a division 4 and Junior B team.  Saw that the Div 4 team was playing on Wedensday night (well the carpark was filled and ballinagh were supposed to be playing mullahoran).

The GAA seem to be coming down hard on all ill discipline and hopefully it will all stick.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on June 30, 2008, 10:48:05 AM
Heard minors were a point up with a minute to go, lost it by two.

Are we stuck in a f**king time loop or something when it comes to big minor championship games? I f**king give up, I really do.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on June 30, 2008, 02:47:22 PM
Made the trip to Clones on Sunday and came home wondering what might have been. It was a strange game with both teams losing their half badly when playing with the wind. Cavan switched their FF Tierney (Ballyhaise) with Ctr Forward McDermott (ballinagh) and treid to Isolate McDermott on the Tyrone FB. While Cavan had loads of ball in the 1st half they kicked brutal passes into McDermott. The other problem they had was a total obsession with hand passing the ball out of defence. Tyrone put on the pressure and turned these chances into points. Tyrones goal game from a hopeful punt forward that was totally misjudged by Leddy at Fb (Gaels), Tyrones forward headed for goal and Leddy pulled him down. Cavan went in 0-3 to 1-6 behind at half time. A couple of switches at half time really changed the game. Packie Leddy of Rehills came on at FF and McDermott went back out the field. Team Captain Oisin Minagh (Redhills) went to Ctr Back for the injured Fergal Flanagan. The 2nd half belonged to Cavan.Big McKiernan lad from Mullahoran at midfield started winning everything from kickout and direct ball into the sub at FF casued Tyrone serious problems. Tyrones FB was then sent of for a 2nd yellow just into the 2nd half and suddenly it looked like we could get back at them. Some fine attacks yielded points and we were back to only 2 down with 10 minutes left. Then A long ball in broke of the FF to Tierney who scored with ease. So 1 point up and that winning mentality of Tyrone kicked in. A free equalised and then their star man Kyle Coney kicked a huge point from 45m to put them ahead again in injury time. He then go himself sent of for a 2nd yellow, yet even with two men less Tyrone were able to run the entire field with an overlap to kicked the security point.

It is hard to sum up the game really. This is not as good a minor team as in the past but they had a lot of heart. But they were very wasteful when in possesion kicking wildly at the posts and fumbling the ball a lot. Team Captain Minagh was very poor I thought and to be honest its the 3rd time I've seen him this year and he has been poor in all. He only was taken of with injury near the end. I think he should have come off earlier. Best for Cavan was mcKiernan at midfield. He had no help but still lorded it against a midfield that Tyrone tried to crowd out. He is a big lad and is definetely one for the future. Niall McDermott was our most acurate forward and Tierney of the Haise was good in parts. He seems like a very strong young lad. He palmed of a Tyrone back at one stage and nearly put him into the stand!

I would give Mickey Graham some credit as this was not the best minor team ever but he did get two wins out of them and put for some atrocious ball play in the 1st half we would have beaten Tyrone. I expect Tyrone will win the final and god knows maybe the whole thing.

I see the seniors got Kildare away in the back door. Same as a few years ago. Not a bad draw on paper but that is what Kildare are thinking too I'd imagine.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on July 01, 2008, 10:30:08 AM
Thanks for the report myles, just like I feared, we once again had the beating of Tyrone but when it comes to the last few minutes, when the big boys are separated from the little boys, the northern teams always have that mental edge over us. Until we change the mindset and approach a gamewith real belief, we'll always be the bridesmaids with moral victories. What's the bets Tyrone go all the way now and reflect at year's end and say Cavan was the toughest game they had?

I should say though that Mickey Graham looks our most promising minor manager for as long as I can recall, hopefully he'll have learned a bit himself and has a decent team to work with next year. E.g. many of that team still underage next year?

Depressing fact: We haven't beaten Tyrone in a competitive game, NFL or championship, at minor, U21 or senior, since 1996.  :o  So many times in the last 12 years, particularly at minor we've been in pole position and coughed it up. Ah well  :-\
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Hollow Man on July 01, 2008, 12:31:36 PM
I agree that Graham is shaping up as a good manager by his results with the Bridge and Scumalee, sorry Drumalee (THIS IS A JOKE BOOJANGLES CALM DOWN) but at the end of the day his results with the minors are the same as those acheived by Nelligan, Brady, Clarke, Keogan etc at that level ie competing well but not winning the Ulster Minor League, then choking when they have the beating of a good Northern team.

I think they have a good side next year, I know Barry Reilly, Kevin Tierney, Packie Leddy etc are underage again.

PS The midfielder McKiernan is from Swad I think, not Mullahoran as someone said earlier

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on July 01, 2008, 12:37:57 PM
Oh aye, it seems we've got Kildare in the qualifiers again, almost forgot.

Newbridge is a tough place to go but you'd reckon if Wicklow can beat them, Cavan can at least give them a game. Mind you, Kildare have had a good while to recover since that loss and I hear on the grapevine that McGeeney has Kildare hitting all around them in challenge games which won't suit our boys.

It's a terrible thing to have to say but I hope we lose it convincingly so that people at the top realise that big changes have to be made. I honestly think the county is at as low an ebb now as it ever was, it's utterly depressing what a shambles the whole thing is, administration, management, you name it.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Hollow Man on July 01, 2008, 12:41:53 PM
Apparently Kildare lost to Tipp in a challenge at the weekend
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on July 01, 2008, 02:31:17 PM
Quote from: Hollow Man on July 01, 2008, 12:41:53 PM
Apparently Kildare lost to Tipp in a challenge at the weekend

:o

Holy fack.

You know the danger here is that we win a game or two in the qualifiers and Keogan stays? Perish the thought. I have nothing personal against the fella and I'll concede he did his best and was very passionate (good to see after years of outsiders) but the bottom line is that he just won't be able to take the team forward.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on July 01, 2008, 06:41:40 PM

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:o

Holy fack.

You know the danger here is that we win a game or two in the qualifiers and Keogan stays? Perish the thought. I have nothing personal against the fella and I'll concede he did his best and was very passionate (good to see after years of outsiders) but the bottom line is that he just won't be able to take the team forward.
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I think that most people want a new manager.  A number of points

What specifically needs to be done?

Who is currently missing from the panel?  What would they bring to the mix?

What changes need to be made to the tactics? 
Been away from "live" football for a while but have watched a few games in Cavan (U21, Junior and Senior).  It seems that teams are playing like Armagh/Tyrone/Derry/Kertry etc i.e.quick ball, no body taking a shot from any distance greater than 25 yards but trying to walk the ball in.  The unfortune thing is that I've seen no team that does it well.  The team that wins do it less badly than the other team

What input have the current panel to the current bad showing?

I have no great ideas as I think that the current team and players don't have a plan and even if they were given a plan of action, they would not keep to it.  Getting very disillusioned.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Onlooker on July 01, 2008, 09:33:55 PM
Quote from: Hollow Man on July 01, 2008, 12:41:53 PM
Apparently Kildare lost to Tipp in a challenge at the weekend
As far as I know the challenge between Kildare and Tipperary was played about 10 days ago.  You are right that Tipp won the game.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Swadman on July 02, 2008, 08:29:01 AM
Great report on the Minor game, Mylestheslasher. Hollowman is corect in saying McKiernan is from Swad, An Muileann Iarainn in Irish. I had to corect Northern Sound on it, as I was trying to make sense of their commentary. I say put Myles in the commentary box.  ;D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on July 02, 2008, 11:15:43 AM
Welcome aboard Swadman. I think we have the a good geographical spread across the county now.

Denn Forever, if I go into it all again I'll probably collapse and if ac39 has to come in and read it all again he'll hunt me down and have me embalmed so I never ever post my views on it in this thread, but I think if we're looking at tactics and players as our first priority, we are putting the cart before the horse.

Attitude, pride in the county, commitment to training from all players (and those that can't commit can leave), and appointing highly respected and capable manager, provided by a county board that worries about success first and the cost of it second, are all top priorities. Then we can worry about personnel and tactics. We might have to take some pain but long term we'd be better off. It's the idea that changing tactics or a few players here and there will make the difference that's holding us back I think. Cavan's problems go right to the marrow of the bone; preparation, mentality, pride, organisation, belief etc. Until we grasp the nettle and address the foundations, we can have no aspirations as regards building any fortress.

I still stand by the assertion that a respected, proven manager with fresh ideas and good man management skills could come into this county and like McHugh did, have us battling for at least provincial honours inside three years. I think we have the players to be doing at least that, and more coming. Hell that man might even be McHugh himself if he's willing.

Just my opinion anyway, I'm sure others differ.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Swadman on July 02, 2008, 09:00:11 PM
Thanks Maniac,
Your thoughts on "a proven manager with fresh ideas and good man management skills" is spot on but he wouldnt even need fresh ideas, ANY ideas would do. The key is the man management element. Sorry, but our man dont have it. Your right, we have the players (some great minor hopes over the last 3 or 4 years) but they have been left without a shepard (to quote the Good Book) We are tripping over development squads from U-14 to U-17 but nothing between Minor and U-21. In rugger they have backs coaches and forwards coaches, we need to be targeting /grooming players for specific positions. Our most imediate requirement being mid-fielders.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on July 03, 2008, 10:40:55 PM
Quote from: cavanmaniac on July 02, 2008, 11:15:43 AM
Welcome aboard Swadman. I think we have the a good geographical spread across the county now.

interesting comment about geographical spread... thought that was lacking a bit with the minor squad... I think a few clubs are looked at a bit harder than others... ie those around cavan town with a few notable exceptions.... thought a lad from my own club was worth a better go than he got...

Having said that thought Mickey G did a better job than the two before him, I wonder would his proven track record at club level have anything to do with that???  Anyone else want to mention the elephant in the room?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on July 04, 2008, 08:54:16 AM
I agree with all that is being said but I don't believe getting a respected man would do F**k all.  Remember Liam Austin?

If I'm honest I think it is all down to players attitudes.  Who in the current panel is a leader of men?  Not the captain but the leader?  My one abiding memory of the Armagh game is Dermot McCabe bellowing to let the ball in long.  But was it done?

You talk about then good minors/U21 that have come and gone.  What changed?  Was it just natural wastage or specifically things that were done or not done?

My feeling is that we believe that we are better than we really are.  My thoughts go back to the players getting rid of manager.  If the players think they know better, prove it like the English rugby team did in the world cup. 

So endeth the rant (for now).
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: North Longford on July 04, 2008, 09:49:34 AM
QuoteArmagh game is Dermot McCabe bellowing to let the ball in long.  But was it done?


I couldn't understand that with the Armagh game. A couple of weeks previously it was used at least 10 -15 times during the game and seemed to be a very concious tactic. Yet with most of the same players 2 weeks later it is gone out the window. The one exception was Johnstone who only played 15 mins against Longford. Is it possible with his presence, players know there is no point kicking high ball in to him and so don't kick any high ball in at all.
Maybe they are more used to trying to finding Johnston with low fast ball and once he was there they reverted to this. Obviously when it wasn't working in the first half you would hope they'd see this and change tactic.
I'd say in club football in Cavan the high ball to a big fullforward would not be the normal tactic. More there would be use of the quicker ball to a faster fullforward....johnston with  the gaels, Pierson with Gowna, Eddie with Mullahoran, Jason with Belturbet etc. I don't think of a lot of the top 10 or 12 teams that would use a big man at the edge of the square and hit him with high ball. If you are playing one way for 3/4 of the year it is very hard to change for a month in June.
Its something the management would need to have as a plan B for the whole year and be working on it throughout the year.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Mr. Pain on July 04, 2008, 12:38:56 PM
Hey Denn Forever thats too much like Mr. Pain's line. Rant over!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on July 04, 2008, 04:36:36 PM
to be honest it would be my opinion, Underage success isnt a necessity to sucess at senior level,
Sure Tyrone,Derry,Laois,Westmeath etc have been successful at Minor and U21 and have improved their Senior teams.
And we must continue to try and improve our underage teams and structures.

However we have been as successful as the likes of
Fermanagh,Monaghan at underage level over the last 10-15 years at under 21 and Minor level,Yet both are playing at a much higher standard than us at the minute.
In reality its a cop out to just blame lack of success at Underage level.
Theres something seriously wrong the psyche of Cavan Footballers when they go out against the Likes of Tyrone and Derry.They are beaten before they take the field.
The Employment of  couple of full time Sports Psychologists is a step in the right direction.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on July 08, 2008, 12:16:32 PM
Very quiet around these parts.

Congratulations all round to everyone involved with the Feile at the weekend. By all accounts a brilliant festival with some very enjoyable games produced.

Ballinagh will learn their irreversible fate by the end of this week as they re-submit an appeal of clemency to the county board. The club has taken a few internal measures and hopes this may be enough to sway things in their favour but I can't say I hold much hope on the CB budging after all the media coverage.

As for the county set-up it's been confirmed that McDonald, Gaffney and Cunningham have all jumped ship over the last week.
Myles, any sightings of Keoghan around Killeshandra with a spade?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on July 08, 2008, 02:53:33 PM
Quote from: Homer on July 08, 2008, 12:16:32 PM


As for the county set-up it's been confirmed that McDonald, Gaffney and Cunningham have all jumped ship over the last week.


I knew about Gaffney and Cunningham and didn't hear about McDonald but i knew well  he would walk. 

Keogan got the Team to go to Clones last Sunday for a challenge game with Monaghan.  When they got there they found out the game wasn't till this Sunday.  Is it any wonder players are walking if he can't even organise a challenge game properly.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Hollow Man on July 08, 2008, 03:19:16 PM
Gaffney had good reason to quit, thought he was harshly treated. Still, he should hang on and see out the year anyway.

McDonald had no grounds to quit the panel. He was handed a starting jersey having done no training, then was given a second chance against Armagh having been taken off once. If I were him I'd be embarrassed.

Cunningham didn't look fit when I saw him.

How many have quit the panel now? Donohoe, Lyng, Ciaran Galligan, Raymond Galligan, Gaffney, Cunningham, Pierson... Is Fannin still there? Finbar Reilly?

There must be f**k all left on the squad. Hopefully they can rustle up 15 to give Monaghan a challenge game if they get the date right.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Hollow Man on July 08, 2008, 03:20:07 PM
If Keogan was going to run to the papers and talk shite every time someone quit the panel this year, like he did last year, he'd have been a busy man!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on July 08, 2008, 03:47:01 PM
Quote from: cavan4ever on July 08, 2008, 02:53:33 PM

Keogan got the Team to go to Clones last Sunday for a challenge game with Monaghan.  When they got there they found out the game wasn't till this Sunday.  Is it any wonder players are walking if he can't even organise a challenge game properly.

Heard the same actually, a couple of lads supposedly came down from Dublin for it too, only to find someone had got the dates wrong.

Quote from: Hollow Man on July 08, 2008, 03:19:16 PM
How many have quit the panel now? Donohoe, Lyng, Ciaran Galligan, Raymond Galligan, Gaffney, Cunningham, Pierson... Is Fannin still there? Finbar Reilly?

Off the top of my head the following players have left the panel or been dropped this year:

Colm Anderson
Rory Donohoe
Anthony Gaynor
Eamon Reilly
Alan Clarke
John Cunningham
Michael Cunningham
Michael McDonald
Declan Gaffeney
Raymond Galligan
Raymond Cullivan
Ciaran Galligan
Micheal Lyng
Gerard Pierson

Also Finbar Reilly and Nicolas Walsh both quit the panel this year but later returned as well as the Chicago 3. Fannin is still in there I think.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on July 08, 2008, 04:29:12 PM
Quote from: Homer on July 08, 2008, 03:47:01 PM
Quote from: cavan4ever on July 08, 2008, 02:53:33 PM

Keogan got the Team to go to Clones last Sunday for a challenge game with Monaghan.  When they got there they found out the game wasn't till this Sunday.  Is it any wonder players are walking if he can't even organise a challenge game properly.

Heard the same actually, a couple of lads supposedly came down from Dublin for it too, only to find someone had got the dates wrong.

Quote from: Hollow Man on July 08, 2008, 03:19:16 PM
How many have quit the panel now? Donohoe, Lyng, Ciaran Galligan, Raymond Galligan, Gaffney, Cunningham, Pierson... Is Fannin still there? Finbar Reilly?

Off the top of my head the following players have left the panel or been dropped this year:

Colm Anderson
Rory Donohoe
Anthony Gaynor
Eamon Reilly
Alan Clarke
John Cunningham
Michael Cunningham
Michael McDonald
Declan Gaffeney
Raymond Galligan
Raymond Cullivan
Ciaran Galligan
Micheal Lyng
Gerard Pierson

Also Finbar Reilly and Nicolas Walsh both quit the panel this year but later returned as well as the Chicago 3. Fannin is still in there I think.

Any explainations why these persons were dropped or left the panel?

If we get a new manager, will these players make themselves available?

If they left the panel of their own accord, will the manager trust them?

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on July 08, 2008, 04:41:37 PM
I don't know the exact reasons behind most of the players, some have opted out through injury or disinterest, others dropped due to inadequacy or misbehaviour, while some may have also made themselves unavailable due to disagreements with the management.

Whatever the reasons it's still an alarming amount of talent that we have to do without.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on July 08, 2008, 04:44:05 PM
Ciaran Galligan wasn't on the panel this year beacuse he was recovering from injury.  He was told that he would be looked at after he played 6 games for Drung.  He has been very poor this year which is probably why he wasn't called back in but his form has improved the last few games.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: billy the kid on July 08, 2008, 05:04:40 PM
Quote from: cavan4ever on July 08, 2008, 04:44:05 PM
Ciaran Galligan wasn't on the panel this year beacuse he was recovering from injury.  He was told that he would be looked at after he played 6 games for Drung.  He has been very poor this year which is probably why he wasn't called back in but his form has improved the last few games.

So would it be fair to say he has been DUNG for DRUNG?? ;) ;)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on July 09, 2008, 10:45:45 AM
U21 games on tonight.  What are the options?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: LackenLegend on July 09, 2008, 11:19:39 AM
Hello there dudes, long time no post. Just to comment on the last post. I don't think Fiinbar left the panel at all. I think he was injured and was then allowed to play for club after as he was nowhere near the starting team. I think he was on the panel all along which probably wasn't fair on other players. Do any of ye know if the games are going ahead this weekend with or without county players? I know the qualifier is next week.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on July 09, 2008, 01:27:42 PM
Quote from: Homer on July 08, 2008, 12:16:32 PM
Very quiet around these parts.

Congratulations all round to everyone involved with the Feile at the weekend. By all accounts a brilliant festival with some very enjoyable games produced.

Ballinagh will learn their irreversible fate by the end of this week as they re-submit an appeal of clemency to the county board. The club has taken a few internal measures and hopes this may be enough to sway things in their favour but I can't say I hold much hope on the CB budging after all the media coverage.

As for the county set-up it's been confirmed that McDonald, Gaffney and Cunningham have all jumped ship over the last week.
Myles, any sightings of Keoghan around Killeshandra with a spade?

Not following you there Homer. Been away on hols for past weeks so maybe I missed something.

Denn Forever suggests that players leaving the panel may be just down to the fact that the players are not dedicated. There may be an element in that but the larger probability is that it is down to man management - or the lack of it. A panel will always consist of numbers of players not getting a game but it is the managers job to keep these guys motivated, to convince them that they can get on the team, to convince them that a year or two on the panel will get them on the team in the future. I have no doubt that keoghan does not have the brains  to do that  nor the ability. Comapre him to Mick O Dwyer. He inherited Wicklow which has always been stricken by in fighting, guys refusing  to play with other guys etc. Micko comes in and suddenly everyone is willing to have a go and stick at it.

Cavan need a new manager. A man that can motivate, has tactical knowledge of football  and knows how to train a team. Basically the total opposite of Donal Keoghan.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on July 09, 2008, 01:28:09 PM
Had to laugh at C4ever's post about Keoghan taking the team down to Clones on the wrong day  :D  :D  :D
Comical stuff really.
3 midfielders gone from the panel.
Lorcan Mulvey,Mark McKeever midfield pairing against the 6'4 duo of Kildare i expect.  :D
:-\
Was there anyone brought in to the panel lately?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on July 09, 2008, 01:39:55 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on July 09, 2008, 01:27:42 PM
Quote from: Homer on July 08, 2008, 12:16:32 PM
Myles, any sightings of Keoghan around Killeshandra with a spade?

Not following you there Homer. Been away on hols for past weeks so maybe I missed something.

Because I honestly don't know if he is joking anymore....

Quote from: mylestheslasher on March 28, 2008, 02:31:55 PM
Just to summarise his (Keoghan's) stupidty, did any of you see last weeks celt? Reporter ask Keoghan if he has any intention of addressing the fact that Cavan haven't had a proper settled midfield partnership since the 60's. Keoghan says that he will bring back John Joe O Reilly - very funny except John Joe played Ctr Back. Then asked to explain why he took of Galligan when most observers thought he did well Keoghan says he'd rather keep that one to himself (translates as I haven't a f**king clue).
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on July 09, 2008, 03:13:51 PM
Quote from: Homer on July 09, 2008, 01:39:55 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on July 09, 2008, 01:27:42 PM
Quote from: Homer on July 08, 2008, 12:16:32 PM
Myles, any sightings of Keoghan around Killeshandra with a spade?

Not following you there Homer. Been away on hols for past weeks so maybe I missed something.

Because I honestly don't know if he is joking anymore....

Quote from: mylestheslasher on March 28, 2008, 02:31:55 PM
Just to summarise his (Keoghan's) stupidty, did any of you see last weeks celt? Reporter ask Keoghan if he has any intention of addressing the fact that Cavan haven't had a proper settled midfield partnership since the 60's. Keoghan says that he will bring back John Joe O Reilly - very funny except John Joe played Ctr Back. Then asked to explain why he took of Galligan when most observers thought he did well Keoghan says he'd rather keep that one to himself (translates as I haven't a f**king clue).

Now I follow you  ;D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Maximus Marillius on July 10, 2008, 09:33:35 AM
Jez lads do yuse lads not know anything.....according to ye your manager knows nothiong and according to all reports yer county board does not know or have any control of who can use breffni park (aussie trail) :o :o is it  melt down in cavan?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Swadman on July 10, 2008, 10:25:26 AM
Myles, youre bang on the money again. "A panel will always consist of numbers of players not getting a game but it is the managers job to keep these guys motivated, to convince them that they can get on the team, to convince them that a year or two on the panel will get them on the team in the future. I have no doubt that keoghan does not have the brains  to do that  nor the ability."
As for Maximus, The Breffni gate affair is obviously a clever arrangement whereby our Co Board give the Aussies a couple of u-14 gossins and in exchange we get a couple of 6'-4" midfielders.  Cavan for Sam in 2013  ::)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on July 11, 2008, 09:26:34 AM
Cavan lost by 4 points to Laois last night.  Have no other details other than Sean Brady picked up a bad injury.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Mr. Pain on July 11, 2008, 03:25:33 PM
Brady injured. Well that is a big surprise!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: CoillyG on July 12, 2008, 06:11:15 PM
I heard its not bad at all and he played on the rest of the game. Lord knows, we need him!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on July 14, 2008, 10:49:15 AM
Anyone have the league tables?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on July 14, 2008, 11:41:59 AM
Div 1

PL W D L Pts
Cuchullains 11 7 3 1 17
Cavan Gaels11 8 1 2 17
Lacken 11 7 1 3 15
Killygarry 11 6 1 4 13
Crosserlough11 5 1 5 11
Denn 11 4 3 4 11
Mullahoran 11 5 1 5 11
Lavey 11 4 2 5 10
Ballinagh 10 4 2 4 10
Gowna 11 4 1 6 9
Belturbet 10 3 2 5 8
Ballyhaise 11 3 1 7 7
Castlerahan 9 3 0 6 6
Drumalee 11 2 1 8 5

Div 2

PL W D L Pts
Drumgoon 11 10 0 1 20
Redhills 11 8 2 1 18
Ramor Utd 10 7 2 1 16
Knockbride 11 6 2 3 14
Killeshandra 10 6 0 4 12
Cavan Gaels11 5 0 6 10
Drumlane 11 5 0 6 10
Drung 11 4 2 6 10
Cootehill 11 4 1 6 9
Bailieboro 11 4 0 7 8
Kingscourt 11 4 1 6 8
Killinkere 11 3 1 7 7
Shercock 11 3 0 8 6
Ballymachugh11 1 1 9 3

Div 3

PL W D L Pts
Crosserlough11 8 1 2 17
Kill 11 8 1 2 17
Laragh Utd 11 6 1 3 13
Swanlinbar 11 6 1 4 13
Templeport 11 6 1 4 13
Bultersbridge11 5 2 4 12
Kildallan 11 5 2 4 12
Corlough 11 5 2 4 11
Munitir Connacht11 3 4 4 10
Shannon Gaels11 4 1 6 9
Arva 11 4 0 7 8
Mountnugent11 3 2 6 8
Cornafean 11 2 3 6 7
Maghera 11 0 3 8 3 
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4sam on July 14, 2008, 11:55:38 AM
That table is rubbish, Castlerahan have 8 pts and if you include the ballinagh game saturday 10 pts.

Anyway, was away in galway all wknd and only heard bouts Sean's injury, apparently its not lookin good, could be the cruciate.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on July 14, 2008, 12:04:13 PM
Quote from: cavan4sam on July 14, 2008, 11:55:38 AM
That table is rubbish, Castlerahan have 8 pts and if you include the ballinagh game saturday 10 pts.

Anyway, was away in galway all wknd and only heard bouts Sean's injury, apparently its not lookin good, could be the cruciate.

Sure we'll probably play him anyway and make sure he is fu*ked for the rest of his career.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4sam on July 14, 2008, 12:06:32 PM
Any of you guys have anymore info on Sean? ill do my best to find out.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on July 14, 2008, 12:42:58 PM
Quote from: cavan4sam on July 14, 2008, 11:55:38 AM
That table is rubbish, Castlerahan have 8 pts and if you include the ballinagh game saturday 10 pts.


Very insulting considering all the work I put in compiling it.... I lifted it straight from hoganstand... forgot to put a disclaimer at the end of my last post
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on July 14, 2008, 12:45:35 PM
Quote from: Celt_Man on July 14, 2008, 12:42:58 PM
Quote from: cavan4sam on July 14, 2008, 11:55:38 AM
That table is rubbish, Castlerahan have 8 pts and if you include the ballinagh game saturday 10 pts.


Very insulting considering all the work I put in compiling it.... I lifted it straight from hoganstand... forgot to put a disclaimer at the end of my last post

Must have took you along time to do alright!

Any word on Johnstowns ankle?  Anyone heading to game saturday?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on July 14, 2008, 01:34:14 PM
I was thinking of heading alright but not sure why. Heart isn't really in it. The quicker this season ends the better.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on July 14, 2008, 01:41:52 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on July 14, 2008, 01:34:14 PM
I was thinking of heading alright but not sure why. Heart isn't really in it. The quicker this season ends the better.

Will be away myself so won't make it, i don't think anyone's heart is in it and if Cavan didn't some how mange to win the start of the county Championships will probably be affected. 
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Mr. Pain on July 14, 2008, 02:54:48 PM
Mr. Pain is doubtful about the possibility of his attendance at this match. At least four starting players were on the beer at least two out of the 3 nights of the weekend gone by. This includes your captain. If they aren't bothered why should we be?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on July 14, 2008, 03:15:22 PM
I bet Kildares players aren't out on the beer, with the manager they have. Contrast that to the manager we have.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on July 14, 2008, 06:37:13 PM
I'll just direct you all to my signature and leave it there.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on July 15, 2008, 12:16:00 PM
Quote from: Mr. Pain on July 14, 2008, 02:54:48 PM
Mr. Pain is doubtful about the possibility of his attendance at this match. At least four starting players were on the beer at least two out of the 3 nights of the weekend gone by. This includes your captain. If they aren't bothered why should we be?

I am constantly amazed that posters think it will be better when Keogan is no longer manager.  Will panelist stop drinking as Mr Pain has highlighted here?  My feeling is that nothing will change while Cavan players think that rules don't apply to them and they know best.   ???
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: CC1 on July 15, 2008, 12:42:53 PM
Ballyhaiseman, any word on what is happening with our U21 match with yourselves? Was it called off or what was the story?

Haven't been speaking to anyone about it as I'm just back from a couple of weeks holidays and I read that it was off on Hogan Stand. Then when I went to read the fixtures they have Ballyhaise down for the semi final against Drumlane. Surely that can't be right can it??
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on July 15, 2008, 12:51:00 PM
Quote from: CC1 on July 15, 2008, 12:42:53 PM
Ballyhaiseman, any word on what is happening with our U21 match with yourselves? Was it called off or what was the story?

Haven't been speaking to anyone about it as I'm just back from a couple of weeks holidays and I read that it was off on Hogan Stand. Then when I went to read the fixtures they have Ballyhaise down for the semi final against Drumlane. Surely that can't be right can it??

Supposedly Shercock were unable to field a team last wednesday night CC1 and Ballyhaise got a walkover straight to the semi final.
i was suprised Shercock with their recent good underage teams were unable to field a team.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on July 15, 2008, 01:25:46 PM
Quote from: Denn Forever on July 15, 2008, 12:16:00 PM
Quote from: Mr. Pain on July 14, 2008, 02:54:48 PM
Mr. Pain is doubtful about the possibility of his attendance at this match. At least four starting players were on the beer at least two out of the 3 nights of the weekend gone by. This includes your captain. If they aren't bothered why should we be?

I am constantly amazed that posters think it will be better when Keogan is no longer manager.  Will panelist stop drinking as Mr Pain has highlighted here?  My feeling is that nothing will change while Cavan players think that rules don't apply to them and they know best.   ???

Maybe some of the players will always abuse the rules and if they are of that kind they should be kicked of the panel. But I feel  that in the majority of cases the manager is just weak on the issue. He owns a pub, has a "colourful" reputation and brings the teams into his pub on lock ins after matches. Do you expect players to take drinks bans serious when this is the craic that has been going on all year. You put a Ger Loughnane in charge of Cavan and I bet you that anyone drinking when there is a drinks ban or matches approaching will be gone and will be replaced with someone who wants to give their all for the county. Like in a business, behaviour and discipline always comes from the top down and that is one of the major problems we have.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on July 15, 2008, 02:03:23 PM
Btw
we got battered by Cuchullains at the weekend 1-17 to 0-9

They will do some damage in the senior championship this year,although they probably wont have enough to win it.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on July 15, 2008, 03:52:08 PM
I don't think that there is a drink ban in place anyway.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on July 15, 2008, 05:03:47 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on July 15, 2008, 02:03:23 PM
Btw
we got battered by Cuchullains at the weekend 1-17 to 0-9

They will do some damage in the senior championship this year,although they probably wont have enough to win it.

Who have ye left to play now HaiseMan? Mullahoran is one of them I believe but can't remember the second. 3 points out of 4 to sink the yellow submarine.

Like the rest of ye I'll be heading for Newbridge but I'm still struggling to find a reason to justify the trip. Also not sure if it has been mentioned but Ronan Flanagan is still doubtful for the Kildare match.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on July 15, 2008, 05:30:19 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on July 15, 2008, 01:25:46 PM
Maybe some of the players will always abuse the rules and if they are of that kind they should be kicked of the panel. But I feel  that in the majority of cases the manager is just weak on the issue. He owns a pub, has a "colourful" reputation and brings the teams into his pub on lock ins after matches. Do you expect players to take drinks bans serious when this is the craic that has been going on all year. You put a Ger Loughnane in charge of Cavan and I bet you that anyone drinking when there is a drinks ban or matches approaching will be gone and will be replaced with someone who wants to give their all for the county. Like in a business, behaviour and discipline always comes from the top down and that is one of the major problems we have.

(http://www.est1892.co.uk/forums/images/smilies/liverpool/handshake.gif)

What he said. Carrying players who think they're bigger than the team when they're really just custodians of a tradition that will always be bigger than themselves, should never be an option no matter what the imapct in the short term. Until we see things this way, we're going nowhere. You'd also be surprised how previously wayward players would buy into a disciplined setup when they see the results it can bring. As it stands, you can't talk to any other county player in the country but when they hear where you're from, they all mention the shambolic attitude of the Cavan set up at all levels, administrative, management and players.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on July 16, 2008, 10:02:24 AM
Ahh I think the pair of boys, Flanagan and Jelly will be alright in the end.... Jaysus help us if they are missing... who will be mid field now that McDonald, Cunningham and Gaffney dropped out? Mulvey and A.N. Other?? Anyone know about Walshe?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on July 16, 2008, 10:26:19 AM
Can someone please post the fixtures for next weekend's championship games, i want to start planning my weekend.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: CC1 on July 16, 2008, 11:16:57 AM
Thursday, 24th July 2008 @ 8pm

Hotel Kimore Senior Championship

Crosserlough v Gowna
Venue:  Kingspan Breffni Park
Referee:  Brian Crowe

Hotel Kilmore Junior Championship
Butlersbridge v Drung
Venue:  Annalee Park, Ballyhaise
Referee:  Raymond Tynan


Friday, 25th July 2008 @ 8pm

Hotel Kimore Senior Championship

Belturbet v Mullahoran
Venue:  Kingspan Breffni Park
Referee:  Martin Sexton

Denn v Knockbride
Venue:  Lavey GAA Grounds, New Inns
Referee:  Packie Smith


Hotel Kilmore Junior Championship

Mountnugent v Shercock
Venue:  P.J. Duke Park, Stradone
Referee:  Seamus O'Connor


Saturday, 26th July 2008 @ 7.30pm

Hotel Kimore Senior Championship

Castlerahan v Kingscourt
Venue:  Ramor United Park, Virgina
Referee:  Oliver O'Reilly

Cavan Gaels v Lacken
Venue:  Kingspan Breffni Park
Referee:  Joe McQuillan


Hotel Kilmore Intermediate Championship

Laragh v Redhills (Match at 5pm)
Venue:  St. Felim's Park, Drumalee
Referee:  Ollie Donohoe

Lavey v Killinkere (Match at 6pm)
Venue:  Kingspan Breffni Park
Referee:  Gerry Sheridan


Hotel Kilmore Junior Championship

Templeport v Cornafean (Game at 5pm)
Venue:  Páirc Na Gaeilige, Ballyconnell
Referee:  Darren Ward

Arva v Corlough
Venue:  St. Aidan's Park, Bawnboy
Referee:  Robbie McDermott

Shannon Gaels v Maghera
Venue:  O'Connell Park, Drumlane
Referee:  Brian Seagrave

Munterconnacht v Kildallon
Venue:  Athletic Grounds, Crubany, Killygarry
Referee:  John Emmo


Sunday, 27th July 2008 @ 3pm

Hotel Kimore Senior Championship

Cuchullains v Ramor
Venue:  O'Reilly Park, Kingscourt
Referee:  Jimmy Galligan - Killygarry


Hotel Kilmore Intermediate Championship

Killeshandra v Bailieboro (Game at 2.30pm)
Venue:  Kingspan Breffni Park
Referee:  Brendan Sweeney

Cootehill v Drumgoon (Game at 4pm)
Venue:  Kingspan Breffni Park
Referee:  Martin Brady - Ballinagh

Kill v Swanlinbar (Game at 3pm)
Venue:  Rory O'Moore Park, Belturbet
Referee:  Patrick Brady

Drumalee v Ballyhaise (Game at 7.30pm)
Venue:  Kingspan Breffni Park
Referee:  Jimmy Galligan - Lacken

Ballymachugh v Drumlane (Game at 7.30pm)
Venue:  Páirc Naomh Fionnán, Cornafean
Referee:  Raymond Kelly
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on July 16, 2008, 11:55:07 AM
Some serious games there...
Drung and Bultersbridge could be the junior tie of the round,
Gaels and Lacken on the saturday and especially Cuchullainns v ramor will be a interesting game, both teams going well in their leagues and a derby as well...
bailieboro and killeshandra should be a tight affair as well, have the pair of boys at mid field went to america yet Myles??
Ballyhaise and Drumalee should be a civil affair in breffini on sunday evening.... then ourselves against our fellow parishioners Drumgoon will be twice as civil as haise v drumalee!! ;)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on July 16, 2008, 12:01:06 PM
oh by the by, anyone else hear a dirty rumour about the last two rounds of the league are supposed to be scheduled for the first two weeks in october!!! and the county board said they would have the league, finals and all, wrapped up by the end of June :D :D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Hollow Man on July 16, 2008, 12:21:09 PM
One Cavan player was at Oxegen last week and missed a challenge match with the blessing of the management.

Another couple were, shamelessly, on the rip over the weekend (both will be starting).

Meanwhile, the entire Kildare panel were in the National Training Centre (think that's right?) in Limerick doing fitness tests.

Who is your money on?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on July 16, 2008, 01:21:59 PM
Quote from: Celt_Man on July 16, 2008, 11:55:07 AM
Some serious games there...
Drung and Bultersbridge could be the junior tie of the round,
Gaels and Lacken on the saturday and especially Cuchullainns v ramor will be a interesting game, both teams going well in their leagues and a derby as well...
bailieboro and killeshandra should be a tight affair as well, have the pair of boys at mid field went to america yet Myles??
Ballyhaise and Drumalee should be a civil affair in breffini on sunday evening.... then ourselves against our fellow parishioners Drumgoon will be twice as civil as haise v drumalee!! ;)

Only Declan McKiernan is gone to America and will not be playing. Haven't been talking to the lads lately but they had picked up a number of suspensions in recent times and I am not sure if  they are up yet or not. No doubt that the leaguers form has dipped since start of the year but I did see them against B'Boro in the league and I couldn't believe how bad B'boro were. I still think leaguers will win that one.

I've decided not to  go to Kildare match. I'm not wasting my time driving from the west coast to Newbridge to watch players who have clearly already given up, with the blessing of the manager it appears. I think Kildare will win easy - although what they are doing fitness tests for at this time of the year is a bit of a mystery too!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on July 16, 2008, 01:31:23 PM
Myles, Damien Higgins is also gone to the states so he won't be playing either. I think the suspensions are up too.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Hollow Man on July 16, 2008, 01:43:37 PM
QuoteMaybe some of the players will always abuse the rules and if they are of that kind they should be kicked of the panel. But I feel  that in the majority of cases the manager is just weak on the issue. He owns a pub, has a "colourful" reputation and brings the teams into his pub on lock ins after matches. Do you expect players to take drinks bans serious when this is the craic that has been going on all year. You put a Ger Loughnane in charge of Cavan and I bet you that anyone drinking when there is a drinks ban or matches approaching will be gone and will be replaced with someone who wants to give their all for the county. Like in a business, behaviour and discipline always comes from the top down and that is one of the major problems we have.

Almost missed this. My sentiments EXACTLY.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on July 16, 2008, 02:33:09 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on July 16, 2008, 01:21:59 PM
Quote from: Celt_Man on July 16, 2008, 11:55:07 AM
Some serious games there...
Drung and Bultersbridge could be the junior tie of the round,
Gaels and Lacken on the saturday and especially Cuchullainns v ramor will be a interesting game, both teams going well in their leagues and a derby as well...
bailieboro and killeshandra should be a tight affair as well, have the pair of boys at mid field went to america yet Myles??
Ballyhaise and Drumalee should be a civil affair in breffini on sunday evening.... then ourselves against our fellow parishioners Drumgoon will be twice as civil as haise v drumalee!! ;)

Only Declan McKiernan is gone to America and will not be playing. Haven't been talking to the lads lately but they had picked up a number of suspensions in recent times and I am not sure if  they are up yet or not. No doubt that the leaguers form has dipped since start of the year but I did see them against B'Boro in the league and I couldn't believe how bad B'boro were. I still think leaguers will win that one.

I've decided not to  go to Kildare match. I'm not wasting my time driving from the west coast to Newbridge to watch players who have clearly already given up, with the blessing of the manager it appears. I think Kildare will win easy - although what they are doing fitness tests for at this time of the year is a bit of a mystery too!

Not really Myles,
Bleep Tests
Speed Endurance Tests
Vo2 Max tests.
They would help a manager assess the fitness levels of each player and whether he has it in him to play 70 minutes of championship football.
I dont know if you have done some of these,but they constitute a good training session in themselves.
Definetely better preparation that attending Oxygen anyway  :D
It would be hilarious if it werent so sad.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on July 16, 2008, 03:08:17 PM
Forgot about Damian Higgins. BHM - Did the bleep test in my day, but always in pre season to make sure we were making progress. Never heard of it been used so close to important matches.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on July 16, 2008, 03:17:14 PM
Quote from: Hollow Man on July 16, 2008, 12:21:09 PM
One Cavan player was at Oxegen last week and missed a challenge match with the blessing of the management.

Another couple were, shamelessly, on the rip over the weekend (both will be starting).

Meanwhile, the entire Kildare panel were in the National Training Centre (think that's right?) in Limerick doing fitness tests.

Who is your money on?

I know one player who texted DK to tell him he was at oxygen and wouldn't be going to the challenge game.  Same player didn't come back to play for his club Saturday evening while two of his team mates did.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Cavanfan on July 16, 2008, 03:27:49 PM
Keoghan in midfield dilemma-From Hoganstand.

16 July 2008


Cavan boss Donal Keogan might have to start his veteran All Star Dermot McCabe at centre-field this Saturday against Kildare after it has emerged that the Breffni County may have lost five midfielders in a fortnight.

Withdrawals from Michael McDonald, John Cunningham and Declan Gaffney from the panel last week have preceded the news that both Sean Brady and Lorcan Mulvey have picked up serious injuries ahead of the Newbridge encounter.

Brady was forced off the pitch in a recent challenge match with Laois at Mullingar and is rated as doubtful for his county's clash with the Lilywhites, while Mulvey has suffered a hamstring strain in what is reported to have been an injury picked up off the playing-field and he looks certain to miss out on his county's first round qualifier.

Along with McCabe, who has started Cavan's two Championship matches thus far at full-forward, it leaves Nicholas Walsh as the only natural midfielder on the panel fit to play at Newbridge, but the Cavan Gaels clubman's action for his county this season has been limited, with no appearances at all in the Championship this summer.

Therefore, Keogan may opt to start team captain Mark McKeever alongside McCabe, reuniting the pair as they have both been playing at centre-field for their club side Gowna as of late
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on July 16, 2008, 03:45:26 PM
Was Mulvey stage diving at Oxygen :D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on July 16, 2008, 04:40:59 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on July 16, 2008, 03:45:26 PM
Was Mulvey stage diving at Oxygen :D

He must have been or else he collapsed a human pyramid.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Swadman on July 17, 2008, 08:41:50 AM
Quote from: Cavanfan on July 16, 2008, 03:27:49 PM
Keoghan in midfield dilemma-From Hoganstand.

Cavan boss Donal Keogan might have to start his veteran All Star Dermot McCabe at centre-field this Saturday against Kildare after it has emerged that the Breffni County may have lost five midfielders in a fortnight.


We hadn't five midfielders in the last two years never mind the last two weeks !!! >:(
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on July 17, 2008, 08:54:54 AM
Quote from: Swadman on July 17, 2008, 08:41:50 AM
Quote from: Cavanfan on July 16, 2008, 03:27:49 PM
Keoghan in midfield dilemma-From Hoganstand.

Cavan boss Donal Keogan might have to start his veteran All Star Dermot McCabe at centre-field this Saturday against Kildare after it has emerged that the Breffni County may have lost five midfielders in a fortnight.


We hadn't five midfielders in the last twenty years never mind the last two weeks !!! >:(
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on July 17, 2008, 09:20:50 AM
Your right CC1 if finished talking about them till a proper Manager is put in charge.

I wil try and predict some of Next weeks Championship games.

Thursday, 24th July 2008 @ 8pm

Hotel Kimore Senior Championship

Crosserlough v Gowna

Hotel Kilmore Junior Championship
Butlersbridge v Drung

Friday, 25th July 2008 @ 8pm

Hotel Kimore Senior Championship

Belturbet v Mullahoran


Denn v Knockbride


Hotel Kilmore Junior Championship

Mountnugent v Shercock



Saturday, 26th July 2008 @ 7.30pm

Hotel Kimore Senior Championship

Castlerahan v Kingscourt


Cavan Gaels v Lacken



Hotel Kilmore Intermediate Championship

Laragh v Redhills

Lavey v Killinkere (Match at 6pm)



Hotel Kilmore Junior Championship

Templeport v Cornafean  Have one  there last couple of games while t'port have lost .


Arva v Corlough


Shannon Gaels v Maghera


Munterconnacht v Kildallon




Sunday, 27th July 2008 @ 3pm

Hotel Kimore Senior Championship

Cuchullains v Ramor



Hotel Kilmore Intermediate Championship

Killeshandra v Bailieboro (Game at 2.30pm)


Cootehill V Drumgoon

Kill v Swanlinbar (


Drumalee v Ballyhaise Draw


Ballymachugh v Drumlane
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on July 17, 2008, 10:33:19 AM
Quote from: CC1 on July 17, 2008, 09:07:43 AM
Lads I fail to see any valid reason to keep an interest in the county team this year. Our minors are out, the u21's are out, hurling if I'm right is over for the year, and the Cavan senior football set up is a joke. Why are we even discussing a lost cause?! 2009 is the next time I will discuss anything to do with Cavan but for now here is my opinion on the set up:

Keoghan not a "joke of a manager", how can he be, he's not even a manager. He is clueless as everybody knows. His man management is shite, the "sessions" he organises after games, his tactical knowledge as we all know is non existant. He's basically a Cavan person making the most of being given a position by a bunch of misers in the county board.

The players attitudes have to change. Years ago, we were all giving out about the likes of McCabe and Forde trying to call the shots and intimidating younger players coming through. Has this attitude changed? Players going on the beer weeks before championship games, and players pulling out of the squad weeks before a game is that a sign of commitment? The players need to take a long hard look at themselves and think, are they going to make something of themselves, are they willing to put everything in for that blue jersey? At the moment they are not.

The county board are a joke, and whoever has appointed Keoghan or whoever has kept him on for this year should lose their jobs/positions.

We have an absolute joke of a county set up in Cavan and I for one couldn't be arsed with it. Its not fun being the laughing stock of the GAA.

I think we are still in the Hurling Rackard Cup. Playing Monaghan in Clones this weekend I think.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on July 19, 2008, 09:27:39 PM
Hoorah. Another moral victory and a another hard luck story. Please Donal, leave now! Got the garden finished today anyhow - its looking really nice.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on July 19, 2008, 10:18:37 PM
Looks like youi'll get what you want now Myles as in the new management team to lead us to the promised land. Met a few exiled Cavanmen down here last night and in a haze of pints I was told that, from impeccable sources of course, that a new management team has been lined up-Stephen King and Bernard Morris. Did you organise that yourself Myles? I reckon not.

Tuned in to Podge and Rodge for some of the Second half tonight. Down 8-3, goal from Gunner, down 13 to 1-9, then reeled them in steadily and went two points up into injury time and sure you were just waiting for what came next..............I suppose lads that have grown up on a steady diet of last minute defeats at underage level etc............It's actually a pity since I got the impression that the players really battled back into the game and were giving them a right going and then. From what I can gather Mackey and Johnston played quite well. Walsh came on in the second half, got a yellow card before he kicked a ball but things seemed to improve around the middle when he was introduced.

The really sad part from my own point of view was that this was a close as it gets to a local fixture for me now and I couldn't be arsed going. Three years ago a few of us were joyfully batin it up the road to an NFL fixture in Newbridge in the February pisses of rain and now it's come to this. From listening to the radio there were 8,000 people there and it sounded like about 200 were from Cavan. Awful sad it's come to this. We probably have enough talent to be at least respectable-if Fermanagh and Monaghan can do it we can too. The more I hear the more I accept that change is needed at managment level. Don't envy the new management team if it comes to that, lot of players have a poor attitude and they didn't pick it up under the current management team.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: trim blue on July 19, 2008, 10:22:28 PM
Just back from Newbridge and only went out of habit and some deep seated loyalty to 'Cavan football' which I vaguely remember as something worth supporting. I share everyones frustration at the current set up and the only shred of comfort from tonight is that it will hopefully now change. Having said that with 5 mins to go I was as passionate and as excited a Cavanman and supporter as I have ever been and so losing this way was just savage and at the moment I feel as depressed about it as losing to Derry in the qualifiers in 04 and losing to Armagh in 05, I could even throw in losing to Derry in 87. Anyway the king is dead long live the king.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on July 19, 2008, 10:37:50 PM
Quote from: anglocelt39 on July 19, 2008, 10:18:37 PM
Looks like youi'll get what you want now Myles as in the new management team to lead us to the promised land. Met a few exiled Cavanmen down here last night and in a haze of pints I was told that, from impeccable sources of course, that a new management team has been lined up-Stephen King and Bernard Morris. Did you organise that yourself Myles? I reckon not.

Tuned in to Podge and Rodge for some of the Second half tonight. Down 8-3, goal from Gunner, down 13 to 1-9, then reeled them in steadily and went two points up into injury time and sure you were just waiting for what came next..............I suppose lads that have grown up on a steady diet of last minute defeats at underage level etc............It's actually a pity since I got the impression that the players really battled back into the game and were giving them a right going and then. From what I can gather Mackey and Johnston played quite well. Walsh came on in the second half, got a yellow card before he kicked a ball but things seemed to improve around the middle when he was introduced.

The really sad part from my own point of view was that this was a close as it gets to a local fixture for me now and I couldn't be arsed going. Three years ago a few of us were joyfully batin it up the road to an NFL fixture in Newbridge in the February pisses of rain and now it's come to this. From listening to the radio there were 8,000 people there and it sounded like about 200 were from Cavan. Awful sad it's come to this. We probably have enough talent to be at least respectable-if Fermanagh and Monaghan can do it we can too. The more I hear the more I accept that change is needed at managment level. Don't envy the new management team if it comes to that, lot of players have a poor attitude and they didn't pick it up under the current management team.

I've said it once and I'll say it again. Stephen King would be a disaster of  a manager. Played with him and played for him and he was a great player but gives you nothing on the line. He just doesn't have what is needed. Maybe Morris does, I don't know. King would be no better than Keoghan and I mean that.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on July 19, 2008, 11:07:03 PM
I probably shouldn't post this giving the mood I'm in. First the positives. Miller, Hannon (excellent first half in particular), Flanagan (despite being moved around the pitch like a chess piece) Johnston (second half) Eddie (for pure effort) Mackey(for one amazing point and a bit of heart and effort). Negatives. McKeever (disgraceful lack of effort for a captain) Keating (lost, but I won't blame him as I didn't blame McDonald) half back line Forde, Watters & McKeever (again) non-existent. The season ended in appropriate fashion by letting Kildare's centre back fun 50 metres unchallenged to set up a goal in injury time with us two up. He could have been dragged, tripped, shoulderd, boxed, or f**king headbutted and  we would've won the game by a point but instead moses took hold and the defence opened up. I dared to believe for one minute that we would have just a little glory and then my heart sunk. Kildare are woeful and will get a kicking next week. One man team in the excellent John Doyle. Oh I forgot-the last of our conveyor belt of midfielders Walsh was the changing of the game today. Wel done Donal on keeping the best til last. And to rub it in someone has to mention Stephen f**king King. As all board members as my witnesses if he gets the job next year I won't go to one game. Goodnight 2008, and good riddance.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: trim blue on July 19, 2008, 11:48:53 PM
On a brighter note, brought my two young sons and their cousin to the match tonight and as we arrived at the ground the Cavan team bus pulled up alongside us and we waited to wish good luck to the players, Michael Brides spotted us and came over and said heres some tickets to get you and the boys in, don't know the man from Adam but it was an act of pure decency on his part which left a huge impression on us all on a night short of memorable moments.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on July 19, 2008, 11:53:12 PM
we're a choosy enough oul' bunch, we don't like outsiders that are here for the money, we certainly don't like keoghan and Stephen King ain't our cup of tea either. Now I was the one who mentioned his name and I wouldn't give it too much credence as there was drink involved among some cavan emigrants however my source would have a good line into the county board. My worry would be if it's another, ahem, "dream team" of King and Morris, say. As in, who the f**k exactly is running the show. Morris' record to date would be at least as good as King's, so who is accountable, where does the buck stop etc.

We ain't exactly brimming over with Cavan born managers that have set the world alight at club level county level or any level so is it a case of a dual team approach where, say, somebody like Kernan, Boylan, whoever could be brought in for 2/3 years with a suitable assistant e.g. Damian O Reilly/Morris/Ray Cullivan, POD for fucks sake with a view to any of them learning on the job and taking over when the outsider pisses off. Anothe local to come in as an assistant when that happens. But maybe that's too simple or involves spendig a few bob.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on July 20, 2008, 10:21:38 PM
Just as the weather looks set to pick up there's that silver lining most of us were looking for.............

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/northern_ireland/gaelic_games/7516416.stm

Now for the annoying months of speculation.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on July 20, 2008, 11:11:58 PM
Praise the lord
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on July 21, 2008, 12:53:02 AM
THERE IS A GOD AFTERALL!!!!!!!!  ;D  ;D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on July 21, 2008, 11:28:43 AM
Another last minute goal and we're out.  At least we are consistant!

Couldn't make to the game but got a report from someone who was there.  He said that the 1st half performance was bad and it was a miracle that we were only 4 point down.  2nd half was much better except of those last 30 seconds.  What was the difference?  Were Kildare that much better in the 1st half or did Cavan under perform?  If you look at from outside you'd say they must have got some Bolloxin from the manager?  So question is, was it the manager or did the players say, f**k it, lets get into them.

Who did perform?  My source was impressed by Mackey but was very unimpressed by the full back line?  Are there any good full backs in the county?  The Denn full back is a converted wing half back.  Are there any dedicated full backs out there.

Again a last minute goal.  Was there a clock at Newbridge?  Could the player have known that it was the last minute? If they did would they have as Lawrence said He could have been dragged, tripped, shoulderd, boxed, or f**king headbutted and  we would've won the game by a point but instead moses took hold and the defence opened up. .  When Martin McHugh was manager he told the players they should keep an eye on the clock in order that they could act accordingly.

Maybe the Management team should have a big clock giving the time and indicating how much injury time is to be played and much injury time has gone.  This should be easy enough to do.  Ask Mullaghhoran or Belturbet where the go their scoreboard.

I'll stop now as I am getting more and more disillusioned. :( :( :( ???
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on July 21, 2008, 11:55:59 AM
I heard that McKeever was a disgrace at the game and showed zero workrate and leadership. I am told that when the Kildare player ran half the field our captain just stopped and watched him go. I hope he enjoyed his session last weekend anyway. Keoghan is a muppet, no doubt, but some of these players also need to be cut loose by the new manager. Boozing the w'end before a championship match is disgraceful behaviour no matter who is in charge. I heard that Hannon was good, Johnstone was good in 2nd half and Walsh totally changed the game when he came on. What a joke that he never got a kick all year until every midfielder had left or been injured. Enough on Keoghans stupidity - whats for the future. I'd say a few managers will be available before the championship is over so best sit tight and see what happens.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Hollow Man on July 21, 2008, 02:12:31 PM
Things need to change from the very bottom up.

Cavan is a football-mad county, and we have always afforded our county footballers huge respect and placed them on a plateau because of their ability. However, many of the current crop haven't EARNED this respect. They take all the benefits that come from being a Cavan footballer, yet they don't earn them, and don't deserve them. I think that's the problem, and I don't know how it can be fixed.

I was in Newbridge and the manner in which we lost was devastating. I was on the terrace in a bad spot with a stupid fence restricting my view, but I thought Martin Cahill did well, and Johnston. McCabe was very poor by his standards, and McKeever and Watters were just awful.

I think Mackey has had quite a good championship, he was impressive at times, as was Johnston. We were dire in the first half and should have been seven or eight down but the second half performance was very good. We were six down two minutes before half time and from there until the point where Kildare got the goal Cavan turned it around to go two ahead, which was impressive.

Dermot Sheridan got a bit of a run around at times but showed great heart and aggression - he's definitely one that we can build around.

Walsh did turn the game by getting in Killian Brennan's face and spoiling things - as far as I know he was injured for ages and that's why he didn't feature before now.

It was a massive ask of Keating to play midfield, he wasn't up to it yesterday but judging by his body language he's a confident player and he's one to watch out for.

With the other clown now gone (some cracking stories doing the rounds from the after party), I think we need a disciplinarian, preferably an outsider who doesn't know that McKeever can never be dropped etc.

We can look to build the team around the likes of Padraig Reilly, Hannon, Fannin (remember him?), Cahill, Cullivan, Sheridan, Lyng, Gunner and Johnston and cut out some of the dead wood. I think McCabe might be hanging up his boots which is a pity because I'd like to see him at full-forward for a good long spell, I think he could link very well with Johnston.

All in all, a terrible season. Keogan's championship record as manager with Cavan is now as follows

Minors - Played 4, won 1 (v Antrim)
Under 21s - Played 2, won 0
Seniors - Played 6, won 1 (v Antrim)

So, aside from Antrim, Donal Keogan has failed to win a championship match in ten attempts. Pathetic.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: trim blue on July 21, 2008, 08:49:56 PM
Although we already knew it Saturday proved what a millstone we were carrying all year with our patched up midfields. There was a difference of night and day in how we played before and after Walsh came on and in saying that it wasn't like he was doing anything special. The difference was he was a midfielder in the first place who was strong, athletic and relatively quick who was getting in Brennans face, literally, and not allowing him to stand back and measure passes into king Johnny. He also plays with confidence and is obviously unfazed by anyone he's up against which is half the battle. Now while Walsh has been injured a lot he wasn't exactly Keoghans favourite either and so he is far from blameless in my eyes. As for the rest, McKeever did nothing and was way off his man a lot but when switched to CHB Flanagan played that position very well. Thought the Full backline did good enough as in the first half Kildare dropped in a lot of high stuff which they dealt with ok and in the second they got on a lot more ball. Would agree with previous poster that Sheridan and Cahill really put the effort in alongside Hannon. The real problem for me in the first half was midfield and the half backs, none of who played well. McCabe's distribution was uncharacteristically poor but his effort and free kicks stood out. We had no right to be only 4 points down at half time. Eddie scored a couple of really good points and as always his effort was faultless, he just lacks that bit of composure. Mackey scored one great point but when he operates as a conventional half forward he's too much of a liability in my book, he cant win his own ball unless its handed to him on a plate and on at least three occasions on Saturday he gave away the ball with dreadful foot passes, having said that I thought he put in the effort and in the first half he tracked his man the whole way back to the 21 yard line to prevent a score which unfortunately wasn't repeated in the 71st minute by some of the others. Now I know we are no world beaters but considering the mess Keoghan made of things and the lack of a midfield this year there are enough good players around for any new manager to look at things and feel he can make improvements if, and its a big if, we get someone like Coleman who laid down the law and had the players respect. Hope McCabe hangs on for another year and would love to see Lyng back fit and rarin to go along with Rabbitte and Eamon Reilly, I'm afraid that we may forget about Pierson which saddens me as he is one of the most naturally gifted footballers we have produced in years but only Eamon Coleman was able to bring the best out of him, maybe Eamons great friend Dessie Dolan could repeat the trick?

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on July 21, 2008, 09:47:34 PM
Good summarisation Trim Blue. But to say the half-back line didn't play well is a huge understatement. I think we all agree we have a decent panel of players there and so many more scattered around the county who, for one reason or another aren't involved. Think Rabbitte, Jordan, Gaynor, Pierson, Lyng, Crowe to name a few. It's all been said before but our players really do need to be ready to commit to the panel from November/December until (hopefully) August the following year if we're to make any progress. And that includes squad players to borrow a soccer phrase. The likes of Rory Donohoe and............well Rory Donohoe have proven that they don't have the commitment so thanks, but no thanks. We need lads in for the long haul. Of course a respected and respectful manager will increase the chances of this happening by not calling lads into the panel in late April at the expense of others. Am I being too simplistic?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on July 21, 2008, 09:55:27 PM
I've discussed Cavan football with any number of outsiders and insiders in the past few weeks and if one more person tells me that "Cavan haven't the players" I'll swing for someone.

I accept that at full tilt we probably wouldn't be All-Ireland material but anyone that thinks we haven't the resources to be at least as good as Fermanagh - although they have better men in key positions than we have, like fullback and midfield - they want to have a word with themselves. Too many people thought and believed the same about our players in 1994 when McHugh took over, only McHugh himself refused to accept it, came in, raised the bar in every area, everyone signed up and gave it a lash and with a bit of luck we might have been in an All-Ireland final if not winning the thing. A rising tide can lift all boats and very, very quickly change the landscape along with  resetting the horizons.

Make no mistake, we're at as low an ebb now as we were back in those dark, depressing days. A cursory glance over the last ten pages of this thread will tell you as much. Once again, we're the grand old aristocrats of Ulster without a pot to piss in, never mind a crown.

The right appointment now is absolutely crucial. The trouble-makers and dressing room dictators that dined out perennially on 1997 and thought it gave them licence to boss the managers around will be largely gone after this season. There's a crop of fairly talented young players there, and more coming, that have to be disillusioned with the crap way things are run and if the right man is brought in they can be turned around, inspired and invigorated just like 1994, and become good players for Cavan and win another Ulster within three years.

If the county board make another dodgy, thoughtless appointment - i.e. just slot another man in there with no recourse to the type of man he needs to be to sort out Cavan's particular problems - then I seriously doubt I will bother going to a game next year. And I won't be the only one, while the supporters clubs will find there'll be nobody putting their hand in their pocket at fundraisers either, because why would we continue to dumbly bankroll a county board so hopelessly out of touch with what its duties are and so lacking in smarts when it comes to analysing the core problem and applying the solution most likely to rectify it.

I have a little more faith in the present chairman who I don't think presided over the Keogan debacle and who impressed me with some quotes I read somewhere which suggested he had his eye on the bigger picture. It's his first big test and time to deliver.

As the man said, goodbye 2008 and good riddance.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on July 21, 2008, 10:14:47 PM
agree with a lot of what has been said but we have a long way to go out of this mess before we get to the level that Fermanagh are currently at. They have been knocking at the door for a number of years now, having been in a semi in Croker a few years ago and now this year. How have they managed it, Well no nonsence management that wouldn't take shite from prima donnas like the Gallaghers for starters. No problem there. What they have that we haven't is a group of players that know what it is to win things i.e. 10 of last Sunday's panel have McRory Cup medals with St Michaels, I could stand corrected there. We at present have a bunch of lads who know how to lose matches in the last minute at Minor, Under 21 and Senior level. That won't be changed overnight.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on July 22, 2008, 12:42:39 AM
Can't disagree with you there ac39, but McHugh got to an U21 final with a bunch of guys who had done nothing at minor so you'd hope that if the scene in general got a bit of a lift, there'd be a trampoline effect at all levels.

You're right that Fermanagh are a bit ahead of us though, a few other counties have been quietly getting on with business and progressing while we've been largely faffing about for the past decade.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on July 22, 2008, 10:09:18 AM
Keoghans rant after resigning from Hoganstand. I'm sorry Donal, but you were there 2 years and if there were players that didn't give it there all you should have got rid. Thats what you are there to do...

Keogan blasts players' 'lack of commitment'
22 July 2008


Outgoing Cavan boss Donal Keogan has hit out at the attitudes of some of the players in the Breffni squad in the wake of his departure.

The Denn clubman has cited a "lack of commitment" among a number of the Cavan players as the reason for his resignation and why the team are out of the All-Ireland Championship again in the first round of the qualifiers this year.

Keogan revealed that his decision to exit his post after two years in charge as Cavan manager had been made in his mind after the Breffni County's poor League campaign which saw them relegated from Division Two.

"I had my mind made up about three months ago," admitted Keogan. "I was fed up with the players' attitude. They just didn't want success badly enough and that's why we're out of the Championship. A lot of the players wanted the trappings of an inter-county footballer, but they weren't prepared to put the effort in and work.

"A lot of the Cavan players, though not all of them, have serious attitude problems. The ability in the squad is unquestionable, but they don't want it enough. It doesn't hurt them enough when they lose.

"After we beat Antrim in the Ulster Championship, about 90 per cent of our fellas exchanged shirts. What does that say about the Cavan jersey? They didn't have enough pride in it."

Keogan added: "The problem with some of these fellas is they know it all. I don't know what happens to some players in this county after they leave minor level."

While neighbouring counties Fermanagh and Monaghan have been prospering over the past two years, Cavan have been in decline and having spoken to the man he succeeded about the team's issues, Keogan still believed he could iron out the problems in Cavan because he was a native of the county.

"When you look at how well Fermanagh are doing and the Monaghan boys getting to the All-Ireland quarter-finals last year, you would think our boys would grasp the opportunity and go for it - put the work in and get the reward at the end of it, but it wasn't the case."

Keogan added: "I talked to Marty McElkennon who I replaced as Cavan manager and he told me about the team, but I thought I could do a better job because I was a Cavan man. I'm bitterly disappointed with the way it went."
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on July 22, 2008, 10:34:16 AM
Looking at the main board, Paul Galvin has succeeded at the DRA, will Ballinagh now appeal?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on July 22, 2008, 11:13:50 AM
Well Keogan might not be in a great position to be talking like that but in one way, I'm happy he has done so. That's the first time any Cavan manager has lifted the lid even slightly on the shite that goes on in the dressingroom and now that it's out there, it might put some pressure on the stray players to either put up or shut up, as well as focus the mind of the new manager coming in.

Maybe some good can come of this awful, awful year.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Hollow Man on July 22, 2008, 01:26:29 PM
Keogan hit the nai on the head with one thing there:

QuoteA lot of the players wanted the trappings of an inter-county footballer, but they weren't prepared to put the effort in and work.

This is what I was getting at yesterday when I posted this:

Quotewe have always afforded our county footballers huge respect and placed them on a plateau because of their ability. However, many of the current crop haven't EARNED this respect. They take all the benefits that come from being a Cavan footballer, yet they don't earn them, and don't deserve them.

I have no sympathy for the man, he's a buffoon but I agree with him in this case.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Mr. Pain on July 22, 2008, 02:54:16 PM
Yes the players did not put in the commitment, Keogan was right about this. However he must also take some responsibility for this as he could not motivate the players or control their habits. It is clear that the players had no respect for this manager but, even worse, no respect for the jersey. The non-committed players should have been dropped and Keogan is at fault here. There are plenty of lads out there who would be mad to play for Cavan. There are a lot of people to blame here. The saddest thing here is how a lot of club footballers had their football held up in the middle of summer just for these lads to go out and make a show of themselves. Rant over!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on July 22, 2008, 04:04:12 PM
Fron Mr Pain

Yes the players did not put in the commitment, Keogan was right about this. However he must also take some responsibility for this as he could not motivate the players or control their habits.

Yes, he wouldn't have the presense but why should players need motivating to play for their county.  Remember we got rid of McElkennon (?) and Austin.  Played Gallagher who wasn'tt even wanted by his own county.  I hope the new manager will be able to wield the big stick and get rid of the dead wood and nay sayers.

Who would be the best person to help him identify the first panel?  Hopefully the apoint ment will be soon so we can get a good run at the league.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on July 22, 2008, 05:07:18 PM
whats the opinion on the time frame on hiring a new manager? Would you favour waiting out and see who becomes available in late September/October
or Hiring immediately(in next few few weeks) to give the manager a chance to check out the Club Championships?

Id favour the latter.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on July 22, 2008, 07:31:00 PM
Somewhere in between ideally BHMan. If it's a local man then the scene should be known to him. If we're to go outside then this won't be the case but we might need to wait til September to pick (can we?) from a bigger pool. I remember at U-16 level being asked by our club manager to go in for county trials. Does anybody think that it's a good idea for each club's management to suggest up to a maximum of X number of players to go in for trials around late October/eary November. Obviously the tried and tested players would be known to an outside man to some extent. But with this approach a nugget would not be missed unless of course he chose not to play. I suppose the development squad serves this to a similar extent.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on July 22, 2008, 08:28:39 PM
I would hope that the decision is made sooner rather than later.  If made soon, can have a look at the championship games.  Can guage the "cut of their jib". 

Waiting for later to see who is available would not work as who of the managers of the teams still in the AI will be available?  Those left I would think will stay with their counties their respective counties as either  they have exceeded their expections (and so would like to see how they get on next year), have nearly got there and so will stay on or will have won the AI.

Local manager?  Who is availablle?  Heard the King/Morris duo?  Would take much shite but questions have been expressed about how good they are.  Anyone else?  Any people who have retired lately be any good?

Colm Coyle?  Luke Dempsey?  Who is out there?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Uladh on July 23, 2008, 12:59:46 AM

Justin McNulty?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on July 23, 2008, 08:38:11 AM
This is a dangerous time for Cavan football. It is vital, absolutley vital, that we get the right man for the job. Of course it would be ideal to have someone in place to watch the championship matches but the danger is we rush in and get the wrong man. I would prefer us to  take our time, get the right man and maybe do a couple of player trials later in the year as suggested by Lawrence. I think the county board need to think big. For me Joe Kiernan is the outstanding choice. Could we tempt him away from his new TV career - I doubt it, but we need to try. I don't like Sean Boylan as he is old school and is from Meath. Internally there is no one of sufficient ability. I'd like to see Morris as a selector maybe but I wouldn't let King near the place. I agree that the county board should get a panel together of some ex players with no vested interests in any of the candidates. I do believe that Cavan can do much much better with the right man in charge. Have a look at some of the players that we don't have at our disposal this year for one reason or another.

Chesty
Pierson
Crowe
Gaynor
Lyng
McKenna
etc

Surely the right man could raise things enough to get these guys interested again.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Hollow Man on July 23, 2008, 10:15:01 AM
Chesty - class player and a real leader for his club, but he has never done it for Cavan. He had a lot of chances but just doesn't have it at county level

Pierson - an enigma. A great talent but his attitude stinks by all accounts. I'd like to see him motivated and firing on all cylinders, but I doubt we'll see it from him.

Crowe - Trevor is it? He's not interested, fine. At least he doesn't go in to the panel half-hearted, I would respect his decision.

Gaynor - Definitely fits the bill of the type of aggressive player we need, but he's a liability too, as he has showed countless times in pressure situations. Could be worth another try

Lyng - Has something to offer, has that belief that we generally lack, but he needs to find his best form and get a long run injury-free

McKenna - Surely he's past it by now?

Instead of rounding up the usual suspects, I would like to see a new manager get the best out of the players who are there and willing to work and learn. F**k the ego trippers and prima donnas who are on the panel every year and always seem to cause problems through lack of discipline, poor attitude or whatever.

If even one player of this type is tolerated and carried (and we've had several over the last decade), then the whole team beomes infected, morale plummets and you're fucked before you start.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on July 23, 2008, 11:07:46 AM
Agree to an extent Hollowman but I think no one should be ruled in or out at this stage. I'd like to see the new man start from scratch. Let the new man give out his vision of how things will progress and what is required. Let any players interested in working to his plan come in and those who don't buy in are free to go. Now after that, anyone (and that means anyone) who fu*ks up gets kicked of the panel and no come backs. The new man will need to be ruthless in this regard to show the prima donna that he won't take crap from anyone. Agree totally that carrying players like that has a terrible knock on effect on other players.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on July 23, 2008, 01:34:40 PM
Excuse my ignorance but who is this Chesty that I keep hearing about?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on July 23, 2008, 02:00:34 PM
Chesty = Eamonn Reilly of the Gaels. Wouldn't play this year due to "serious" disagreement with Keoghan - but that is another story.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4sam on July 23, 2008, 02:20:03 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on July 23, 2008, 02:00:34 PM
Chesty = Eamonn Reilly of the Gaels. Wouldn't play this year due to "serious" disagreement with Keoghan - but that is another story.

Myles, I remember when this came up on the board a while back and am still none the wiser as to what this "serious" disagreement with Keoghan was. Would you be able to enlighten me via a pm perhaps?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on July 23, 2008, 02:28:46 PM
Chesty-definetely good enough to be in the panel.

Pierson- we've never seen how good he can be,because he just doesnt want to put in the heavy training,i cant see him changing now.

Crowe-he played for the county juniors this year,but he just wont give the effort required for IC Senior,im afraid we can forget about him.

Gaynor-a Liability, i dont honestly think he can be controlled,he would be a terrific addition if he could be gotten to channel that aggression.

Lyng-he will be back next year id say, im sure he will get back to his best form,hes only 22.

McKenna- im afraid we can forget about Pierce, hes about 32 or 33 at this stage,

Better to target the likes of Sean Maguire(Lavey) Cian McDermott(Ballinagh) etc for future panels.

now onto the management,
Uladh threw up Justin McNulty's name, He done the business with a Mullahoran team which i would say was inferior to the Gaels in about 9 positions on the field,
i wouldnt mind seeing him get the job.

Paul Bealin perhaps? id say hed leave Carlow for Cavan if given the oppertunity,He also knows Cavan Football from his time with Mullahoran.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on July 23, 2008, 02:45:50 PM
They are just names TTB calm down  ;D

i know McNulty moved onto St Brigids i think it is,Not sure if he won anything there.

Damien Cassidy, id love for him to get it aswell, Although he will more than likely be a candidate for the Derry Job,

no way Joe Kernan takes the job, he wouldnt want to go against Armagh, and hes raking it in with his TV  job with BBC and TV3
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Hollow Man on July 23, 2008, 03:21:23 PM
How about Sean McCormack as player-manager?

WHOA!! Calm down BH Man, it's only a joke...
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on July 23, 2008, 03:26:21 PM
Come out of the closet already Hollow Man

Its quite obvious by now that you have feelings for Sean McCormack,

Its the 21st century nowadays, we wont hold it against you.  ;)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Mr. Pain on July 23, 2008, 03:38:35 PM
Ah ya dirty ould dog ya BHM! If SMc is that way inclined so be it. What about Terry Brady for coach? Just kidding...
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on July 23, 2008, 04:29:06 PM
Sure i think Hollow Man should tell Sean how he feels,  :D

im afraid Sean Might not see the funny side though and im not responsible ,when i mean erh ''should'' any physical harm come to Hollow Man :P  :D

Mr Pain i know for a fact Sean along with about 6/7 county players(that i know of) reads this site, so id be careful if i were you.  ;)

Big men hiding behind online identities sniping at players. Some lads on here wouldnt be so brave in the Farnham or the Imperial  ;D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Hollow Man on July 23, 2008, 06:34:39 PM
Who is sniping at anyone?

I think I might register with one of the fishing message boards and reveal the big catch I just had with BH Man. Simple, just throw out the bait, wait a few minutes, then reel that baby in  :-*
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Mr. Pain on July 24, 2008, 10:07:31 AM
Thats very hard talking BHM. Somehow Mr. Pain is not shaking in his boots, somehow.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on July 24, 2008, 12:00:02 PM
Whispers circulating suggesting that Ballinagh have been given a reprieve of sorts.

Club fined €6000, Ballinagh forfeit's first round of Senior Championship but may participate in the back-door / relegation battle, Ballinagh also forfeit all home games.

I'm not sure what the story is with the League yet or for how long we forfeit home games.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on July 24, 2008, 12:18:37 PM
Just confirmed

Club fined €6000,
Ballinagh forfeit first round of Senior Championship but may participate in the back-door / relegation battle,
Ballinagh forfeit all remaining games of ACFL
Ballinagh also forfeit home advantage for 96 weeks (2 years)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on July 24, 2008, 01:26:31 PM
Quote from: Homer on July 24, 2008, 12:18:37 PM
Just confirmed

Club fined €6000,
Ballinagh forfeit first round of Senior Championship but may participate in the back-door / relegation battle,
Ballinagh forfeit all remaining games of ACFL
Ballinagh also forfeit home advantage for 96 weeks (2 years)

Personally I think this is fair enough. The club get punished quite severely but at least the players have something to train for and are not being punished for the act of one idiot.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on July 24, 2008, 01:34:13 PM
Home advantage? What a load of shite. I'm not saying I agree or disagree with the original punishment but making them play up the road in exchange for effectively re-entering the championship is typical GAA. Maybe they should think things through before the dish out the punishments. At least Killygarry can put the feet up for a while if General Lovett allows it.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on July 24, 2008, 02:23:47 PM
Both Luke Dempsey and Tommy Carr making noises in the press about taking up new manager positions, both are handily located, would anyone here have them in Cavan?

I quite like Dempsey to a degree, I have to say. I know he has never won anything as such but he has a track record in working with young players and getting the best out of them, and effectively, there's a rebuilding job on with young players in Cavan. I'd love to have him in charge of our next few U21 teams as well. He seems to be a good motivator too but the worry I'd have is that he might not be the strong enough personality required to clear out the bad influences in the dressing room.

On that score, Tommy Carr as a noted disciplinarian, deserves a mention. His track record isn't great with Dublin in terms of silverware, but I can't imagine any of Cavan's A-league superstars getting shirty with him in the dressing room and living to tell the tale, he will have worked with some of the biggest egos there are when in Dublin and is obviously used to pressure as well. He got Roscommon to Croke Park through the qualifiers as well and they gave Kerry a game of it as far as I recall. I'm not sure he'd have us challenging but giving him the job for two years to instil a culture of discipline might not be a bad idea.

Anyway, just throwing it out there and getting the ball rolling, have a cut off the two of them there 'till we see what the brains of the board think!   
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on July 24, 2008, 02:46:34 PM
I never thought of Tommy Carr.  Been there, done that and has the T-Shirt!

Does he have other committements like press or TV?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Hollow Man on July 24, 2008, 02:55:21 PM
He has never achieved anything. That was a very good Roscommon team with the likes of Francie Grehan and Frankie Dolan among other class players, yet Carr the "disciplinarian" let them run riot.

Also, he did nothing with Dublin. Don't want him!

Dempsey has a decent record, but his last two years with Longford were brutal and he's ot well liked down there for some reason.

I'd like Mickey Moran and John Morrison to take it.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Maximus Marillius on July 24, 2008, 03:01:57 PM
Quote from: Hollow Man on July 24, 2008, 02:55:21 PM
He has never achieved anything. That was a very good Roscommon team with the likes of Francie Grehan and Frankie Dolan among other class players, yet Carr the "disciplinarian" let them run riot.

Also, he did nothing with Dublin. Don't want him!

Dempsey has a decent record, but his last two years with Longford were brutal and he's ot well liked down there for some reason.

I'd like Mickey Moran and John Morrison to take it.

Moran is a very good coach who wanted to become a manager. He is not noted as a disciplinarian...but has a decent record thou
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on July 24, 2008, 04:57:15 PM
Quote from: Hollow Man on July 24, 2008, 02:55:21 PM
He has never achieved anything. That was a very good Roscommon team with the likes of Francie Grehan and Frankie Dolan among other class players, yet Carr the "disciplinarian" let them run riot.

Also, he did nothing with Dublin. Don't want him!

Dempsey has a decent record, but his last two years with Longford were brutal and he's ot well liked down there for some reason.

I'd like Mickey Moran and John Morrison to take it.

I can't recall too well but I don't think Grehan and Dolan were too bad them times...Dolan played a stormer against Kildare in the qualifiers under Tommy Carr I think. I'm only guessing though.

Dempsey would be a better shout for me though. I think he'd have a better calibre of player to work with than in Longford and possibly more youth coming through. I think he did as well as he could with the resources he had in Longford...decent forwards but a defence that kept leaving the door open, and they gave Kerry a rattle in championship too. In short, I'm not sure I know manay managers that would have done better than Luke in Longford but I'm open to correction.

Mickey Moran deserves a mention alright but I absolutely despise that awful basketball crab-like shortpassing game that he insists on playing every time with every team. I think its day is done at this stage with direct ball into big full forward now the way to go.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Hollow Man on July 24, 2008, 05:37:30 PM
They were OK till they played pool in the nip and got the county team disbanded.

My point is, that was a class team and would have won something with a good manager, which Carr is not.

Moran had Mayo playing sensational football in 2006. Remember when they came back from seven down to beat Dublin? Best game of football I've seen. Pity about the final collapse.

Who else is out there?

Any other seedy night club owners who have never managed a club team and done nothing with an exceptional minor team?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on July 24, 2008, 08:59:54 PM
Jesus aye the naked pool incident how could I forget. Was that not on the previous manager's watch though, the Tobin guy? Think Tommy was drafted in as the sherriff to clean up that town, I actually don't think there was anything too untoward when he was at the helm but clearly, my memory is hazy if I can't even recall the Nudie Pool!

Dunno if it was a 'class' team as such but it wasn't too bad either I suppose.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on July 24, 2008, 09:05:31 PM
I started a thread on the main section to see what managers are out there. When it has run a while I'll paste the list back in here.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tierworker blue on July 25, 2008, 12:16:13 AM
Quote from: trim blue on July 19, 2008, 11:48:53 PM
On a brighter note, brought my two young sons and their cousin to the match tonight and as we arrived at the ground the Cavan team bus pulled up alongside us and we waited to wish good luck to the players, Michael Brides spotted us and came over and said heres some tickets to get you and the boys in, don't know the man from Adam but it was an act of pure decency on his part which left a huge impression on us all on a night short of memorable moments.
fair play to him...that's nice to see...hopefully you'll get to bring them to some winning games soon!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on July 25, 2008, 11:13:44 AM
Alright lads,its been a month or so since I posted.Dont worry BH Man I havent disappeared!
Moved house in the last month and only getting settled now.
Well we finally got our man Keogan out of the job and as has been discussed already the next appointment is crucial.I really think we need a REALLY strict man on discipline who has a good pedigree working with young players but somebody with a high profile that should generate a buzz about our county team and encourage everybody to want to play and win things for Cavan.
Our Minors got beaten and while I have to say I thought some of his tactics in the 1st half against Tyrone were stupid,I really believe that Mickey Graham should b left at that Minor job.Dare I say the Fatal words-but supposedly next Years Minor team is supposed to b alot stronger.(Now where have I heard that before?)
The Club Championships got underway last night with Gowna using their get out of jail card.There is some interesting clashes.Drumgoon-Cootehill,Ramor-Cuchulainns and Drumalee-Ballyhaise.Obviously the latter being of most consequence to me.
Heres to a great weekend of football.Im getting the butterflys already.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on July 25, 2008, 04:38:52 PM
should be good Boojangles, Looking forward to a few of yer customary hard hits on Sunday,
Best of luck to all you lads playing championship over the weekend...Even HollowMan and Mr Pain  :-*
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: shotstopper1 on July 27, 2008, 01:57:50 PM
If the next Cavan manager was to be a local , what would ye think of Terry Hyland and/or Ciaran Brady? Hyland has the experience of being there before in the back ground with Andrews at Cavan and Louth,and Brady has had some relative success in management.

On the Ballinagh issue,now that they're back in the championship,it begs the question could Ballyhaise be the real losers in the end?

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on July 27, 2008, 05:12:06 PM
From what I hear Terry Hyland dosent know his arse hole from his ear hole along the line and I dont think he has near the necessary experience for the county Senior job.What has he ever won really? An Intermediate with Knockbride if my memory serves me well.BH Man and Lacken Legend should know more than me tho.I played under Ciaran Brady and found him excellent in most cases but he was only really involved in the training end of things.
Shotstopper I dont see what you mean about Ballyhaise being the real losers in the Ballinagh affair.Surely if Ballyhaise have been hard done by then surely my own club(Drumalee) are in the same boat? Castlerahan and Belturbet were just above both ourselves and Ballyhaise and it seems like both them teams will be awarded 2 points from Ballinagh.While we both had played them already.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on July 28, 2008, 12:16:22 PM
Anyone draw the complete draw for the backdoor? I know we got laragh and then the winners play the losers of the lavey killinkere replay....
As for the game yesterday, I'm not ready to talk about it yet
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on July 28, 2008, 02:27:29 PM
was told it after the match last night Celt Man but cant remember it now,
we got the winner of the qualifying round again like last year,so no game for 6 weeks.  ::)

Cavan Gaels-Mullahoran quarter final though, nice draw.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: shotstopper1 on July 29, 2008, 12:25:13 AM
Quote from: boojangles on July 27, 2008, 05:12:06 PM
From what I hear Terry Hyland dosent know his arse hole from his ear hole along the line and I dont think he has near the necessary experience for the county Senior job.

Following the trend of the last two appointments he'd be ideal for the county board so. I'd agree with ya he has won F all, but who at the moment within the county has? The last few county champions have being managed by outsiders,  (just thought of another man Martin McCabe who won a few County Championships in Wmeath),Mickey Graham won both the Junior and Intermediate with different clubs,his time will come but not yet,other than that there's really no stand out character from within the county,is there?

QuoteShotstopper I dont see what you mean about Ballyhaise being the real losers in the Ballinagh affair.Surely if Ballyhaise have been hard done by then surely my own club(Drumalee) are in the same boat? Castlerahan and Belturbet were just above both ourselves and Ballyhaise and it seems like both them teams will be awarded 2 points from Ballinagh.While we both had played them already.

In fairness your last two games are Gowna and Cavan Gaels, ye haven't won since the first two league games v Lavey and Killygarry ye're on 5 points so ya can hardly blame me for assuming that at best ye might win one of these games (to win both highly unlikely,Gowna need the points to ensure safety and the Gaels will be hoping to top the Division) which would leave ye on 7 points at best. Ballyhaise are on 7 (one gained/dropped against Ballinagh while Ballinagh were under the threat of suspension),with Belturbet and Mullahora to play.Belturbet 8 with two points to pick up against Ballinagh which will leave them safe(last game v Ballyhaise),Castlerahan (after  getting the Ballinagh 2 points now on 10 points with the CuCu's and Killgarry to play.

So what I'm trying to show here is that Ballinaghs suspension was highly unlikely to effect Drumalee's position whereas Ballyhaise may have had a chance to stay up if they,Ballinagh, hadn't had being suspended .

Senior Champ Draw

Gaels v Mullahoran
Denn v CuCu's
Killygarry v Crosserlough/Gowna
Kingscourt v Qualifier
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on July 29, 2008, 05:10:23 PM
Full Results from w'end...
Senior
Crosserlough 2-04  Gowna 0-10
Belturbet 0-11 Mullahoran 1-12
Denn 2-16 Knockbride 1-12
Cavan Gaels 1-17 Lacken 0-10
Castlerahan 1-10 Kingscourt 1-14
Cuchullains 1-12 Ramor 1-09

Intermediate
Kill 0-16 Swanlinbar 2-10
Drumalee 1-08 Ballyhaise 0-16
Ballymachugh 2-05 Drumlane 1-09
Cootehill 0-08 Drumgoon 1-10
Killeshandra 0-07 Bailieboro 1-09
Laragh 1-10 Redhills 2-12
Lavey 0-14 Killinkere 2-08

Junior
Butlersbridge 1-05 Drung 1-08
Mountnugent 0-11 Shercock 2-10
Templeport 1-17 Cornafean 2-14
Arva 1-07 Corlough 2-04
Shannon Gaels 2-14 Maghera 0-06
Mounterconnaught 3-10 Kildallon 1-08

Anyone got the full draws for the next round.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on July 29, 2008, 05:58:33 PM
Ballymachugh V Drumalee in the qualifiers is one i know of.

Killeshandra had a bad night against B'boro, Just found intermediate a step too far Myles? or what was the problem????
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on July 29, 2008, 07:18:34 PM
Not sure what is happening with leaguers. Wasn't around for the game but me bro said they were brutal bad in the 2nd half. I think they are well good enough for intermediate but they seem to have lost their way. I seen them beat B'boro easily with 13 men for half the game a few weeks back in the league and I couldn't believe they didn't win. The wheels have definetely come of but hopefully they can consolidate their place in intermediate for next year and give it a good lash then. Congrats to you on the win against Drumalee - not a beep out of Boojangles, he must be soar. What sort of game was it, is cullivan back in action?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on July 29, 2008, 07:26:36 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on July 29, 2008, 07:18:34 PM
Not sure what is happening with leaguers. Wasn't around for the game but me bro said they were brutal bad in the 2nd half. I think they are well good enough for intermediate but they seem to have lost their way. I seen them beat B'boro easily with 13 men for half the game a few weeks back in the league and I couldn't believe they didn't win. The wheels have definetely come of but hopefully they can consolidate their place in intermediate for next year and give it a good lash then. Congrats to you on the win against Drumalee - not a beep out of Boojangles, he must be soar. What sort of game was it, is cullivan back in action?

Thanks
Boojangles had a good game Myles,But im sure it stung to lose to us, ;)
Cullivan was midfield, against Gary Fernacombe, he was very good,Getting back to his old self thank god.
Good game i thought,some very good scores,
Ciaran McGowan(Son of Cavan great Enda) scored 4 great points from play, and young Kevin Tierney was also a danger.
Michael Rooney and Fergal Slowey outstanding in defence.

For Drumalee
Kevin Donohoe had a good game on Ali Pickett even though Pickett seen alot of ball.
Drumalee changes and tactics were strange,Putting Fernacombe on Cullivan didnt make sense to me as Fernacombe didnt have as great a impact as he would have had at wing back,
Enda McCormack had a quiet enough game i thought.
Bringing on Shane Donoghue then replacing him after 15 minutes was puzzling aswell.
Im not saying Drumale would have won with better actions along the line,But it might have been closer.

We were much improved from our defeat against Cuchullains,but more improvement will be needed if we are to progress to the semi finals.
Darragh Gaffney is some free taker,if he would contribute more from play,hed be a definite starter for the county.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Hollow Man on July 29, 2008, 08:17:03 PM
Where was Pickett playing?

Was Stephen Rooney playing?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on July 30, 2008, 11:37:03 AM
Shotstopper I suppose when ya go through it Ballyhaise look to b the real losers in the whole affair,its just unfortunate but Im not sure what else the County Board could do,bar having only 1 team relegated along with Ballinagh.
Ballyhaise Man well done,The better team won.You's were hungrier and sharper and took your chances.
You'r rite in saying that our tactics were strange.Shane Donoghue wasnt fit to walk and probably shouldnt have even been togged out,I doubt he was even on for 10 minutes.Gary Ferncombe was due to play midfield anyway but the lad doesnt know how to play the position really and he was trying too hard to stop Cullivan instead of playing his own game.In my opinion he is one of the best half backs in the County and Id b suprised if he's not back there against Ballymachugh.
You's never gave us a chance to settle,your work rate was excellent even in the final minutes you's were battling for every ball.That was the difference.Too many of our lads werent up to Championship tempo.
I thought Enda McCormack was one of our better players TBH although I thought Eamon Costello had a fine game too.Your rite about Daragh Gaffney,he is a superb free taker and he is starting to throw himself about more but I really dont think he wants to play County football,he's a very laid back fella(which does drive me mental on the field at times) and I think he was asked in last year but he said no.He has everything going for him as a footballer and he would b some additionto the County team but I just dont think he wants it.
Its back to the drawing board for us but to b brutally honest we have too many problems not just on the field that might not b fixed this year.But ya never know.
Ballyhaise definetely had the Indian sign over me this week-On Saturday you's bet our Under 15s after Extra time in the Semi-final of the County 7-a side blitz in Breifne Park.Myself and the brother were over our lads.Then Sunday in the Park and then on Monday in Drumalee Ballyhaise bet our Under13s in the Division 2 Semi final  and I was manager of that team too.If I see another Ballyhaise jersey this year it will b too soon.Unless its in the Quarter Finals of the Championship of course!!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on July 30, 2008, 02:52:43 PM
Quote from: boojangles on July 30, 2008, 11:37:03 AM
Shotstopper I suppose when ya go through it Ballyhaise look to b the real losers in the whole affair,its just unfortunate but Im not sure what else the County Board could do,bar having only 1 team relegated along with Ballinagh.
Ballyhaise Man well done,The better team won.You's were hungrier and sharper and took your chances.
You'r rite in saying that our tactics were strange.Shane Donoghue wasnt fit to walk and probably shouldnt have even been togged out,I doubt he was even on for 10 minutes.Gary Ferncombe was due to play midfield anyway but the lad doesnt know how to play the position really and he was trying too hard to stop Cullivan instead of playing his own game.In my opinion he is one of the best half backs in the County and Id b suprised if he's not back there against Ballymachugh.
You's never gave us a chance to settle,your work rate was excellent even in the final minutes you's were battling for every ball.That was the difference.Too many of our lads werent up to Championship tempo.
I thought Enda McCormack was one of our better players TBH although I thought Eamon Costello had a fine game too.Your rite about Daragh Gaffney,he is a superb free taker and he is starting to throw himself about more but I really dont think he wants to play County football,he's a very laid back fella(which does drive me mental on the field at times) and I think he was asked in last year but he said no.He has everything going for him as a footballer and he would b some additionto the County team but I just dont think he wants it.
Its back to the drawing board for us but to b brutally honest we have too many problems not just on the field that might not b fixed this year.But ya never know.
Ballyhaise definetely had the Indian sign over me this week-On Saturday you's bet our Under 15s after Extra time in the Semi-final of the County 7-a side blitz in Breifne Park.Myself and the brother were over our lads.Then Sunday in the Park and then on Monday in Drumalee Ballyhaise bet our Under13s in the Division 2 Semi final  and I was manager of that team too.If I see another Ballyhaise jersey this year it will b too soon.Unless its in the Quarter Finals of the Championship of course!!

You've had a bad week alright.
Ballymachugh in the qualifiers, you should win that.

Quote from: Hollow Man on July 29, 2008, 08:17:03 PM
Where was Pickett playing?

Was Stephen Rooney playing?

Ali Pickett was part of a two man FF line with Kevin Tierney

Stephen Rooney would be one of the first subs for the forwards,Hes played alot of league games, however the management only used subs for injuries on Sunday so he wasnt brought on.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on July 30, 2008, 04:40:57 PM
Heard a rumour that the county board are looking at boylan to take over, any views on that?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on July 30, 2008, 04:51:55 PM
Quote from: cavan4ever on July 30, 2008, 04:40:57 PM
Heard a rumour that the county board are looking at boylan to take over, any views on that?
I really cant see it happening,with Boylan being such a fanatical Meath man Id say it would kill him to manage any other County but mayb and hopefully Im wrong.I would love to see Boylan in as manager.I read his book and he is a big man on discipline but is also a big players man.He would demand high standards from all sides-Players,Selectors and County Board.
Bar Mick O Dwyer I dont think theres a more popular or high profile manager in the country and if lads didnt want to play for Cavan under Sean Boylan then forget about them.
How relaible is the word tho?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on July 30, 2008, 04:57:35 PM
Quote from: boojangles on July 30, 2008, 04:51:55 PM
Quote from: cavan4ever on July 30, 2008, 04:40:57 PM
Heard a rumour that the county board are looking at boylan to take over, any views on that?
I really cant see it happening,with Boylan being such a fanatical Meath man Id say it would kill him to manage any other County but mayb and hopefully Im wrong.I would love to see Boylan in as manager.I read his book and he is a big man on discipline but is also a big players man.He would demand high standards from all sides-Players,Selectors and County Board.
Bar Mick O Dwyer I dont think theres a more popular or high profile manager in the country and if lads didnt want to play for Cavan under Sean Boylan then forget about them.
How relaible is the word tho?
Not sure don't know the fella who told me that well but he would have some contact with people in county board. He reckons that there is big money on the table but time will tell i supose.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on July 30, 2008, 06:28:10 PM
Big money is never a problem when it comes to manager time in Cavan, if you'll forgive me a shite joke, you can take that to the bank. Watching with interest myself to see what names filter out, heard a very flimsy rumour myself but nothing worth mentioning.

As regards Boylan, I'd rate that one a very doubtful starter indeed. But at the end of the day, we're all just guessing really.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on July 31, 2008, 09:23:38 AM
Boylan looks terrific on paper but is he out of the game a bit too long. I'd suspect he is old school and might not have the tactics to deal with Ulster football. Or maybe I'm just making excuses cos I don't really want a Meath man to manage Cavan ;)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on July 31, 2008, 11:15:47 AM
The last one made a right bags of it anyway, maybe Meath have a policy of planting managers here to take us back years. And when they don't do it, we make a right good job of it ourselves.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: LackenLegend on July 31, 2008, 12:03:48 PM
I've been away for a while but i couldn't let this slip away.

Quote from: boojangles on July 27, 2008, 05:12:06 PM
From what I hear Terry Hyland dosent know his arse hole from his ear hole along the line and I dont think he has near the necessary experience for the county Senior job.

That is quite a statement there Boojangles. Have you ever trained under the man? I'm not sayin he's the best in the world but he has trained a number of clubs including Lacken, Denn, Knockbride, Ballyhaise and Lavey. He has also managed the Cavan over 40's for a number of years with success. He is selector for the successful Irish over 40's for the last number of years and is preparing them for another trip down under. He was selector with Louth and Cavan. This year he set up and managed the county development/junior squad. Maybe i'm forgetting some stuff there too.

Maybe you're right. Sure he wouldn't know anything.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on July 31, 2008, 04:42:53 PM
Quote from: LackenLegend on July 31, 2008, 12:03:48 PM
I've been away for a while but i couldn't let this slip away.

Quote from: boojangles on July 27, 2008, 05:12:06 PM
From what I hear Terry Hyland dosent know his arse hole from his ear hole along the line and I dont think he has near the necessary experience for the county Senior job.

That is quite a statement there Boojangles. Have you ever trained under the man? I'm not sayin he's the best in the world but he has trained a number of clubs including Lacken, Denn, Knockbride, Ballyhaise and Lavey. He has also managed the Cavan over 40's for a number of years with success. He is selector for the successful Irish over 40's for the last number of years and is preparing them for another trip down under. He was selector with Louth and Cavan. This year he set up and managed the county development/junior squad. Maybe i'm forgetting some stuff there too.

Maybe you're right. Sure he wouldn't know anything.

Speaking from a Ballyhaise point of view,
Terry Hyland managed us at a time when the senior team were at their most weakest,The likes of Padraig McCrudden,amongst others had just retired, and minors like Eamon Costello,Barry Kelly,Brendan Lyons etc were plucked straight in to be the backbone of the team while they were 18/19/20.
he done as well as anyone could. So i dont have a bad word for him.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Hollow Man on July 31, 2008, 05:50:56 PM
To be fair to T Hyland, I know nothing about him bar the fact that he made a good job of the Cavan juniors this year (ran Dublin very close in Parnell Park, they went on to win the All Ireland), and has got Lavey flying high in the top half of ACFL Div One.

Also, wasn't he a selector the year Cavan got to the Ulster final and were beaten by two or three points by Tyrone?

Who else is said to be in the running? Ciaran Brady? Morris? King? I hear Phelim Plunkett is in for it??

Know nothing about the latter but we need a total break from the Keogan era I think.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on July 31, 2008, 09:01:18 PM
Maybe Iv put my foot in it there,Lacken Legend mite b Terry Jnr or Mark.Ok mayb I was a bit harsh on Terry.No I have never played under him.But I have been around long enough to form my own opinions on people on the football scene within the County.You name a host of clubs that he was over but bar Knockbride who has he won anything with?
He was a selector with Val Andrews when he was over Cavan and yes we got to an Ulster Final in 2001 but that doesnt make him a good manager.I could name a host of people who have been selectors with Cavan who hadnt a clue what they were at and were only Yes men and there for the prestige.Im not saying that was the case with Terry but my point is,being an Inter-County selector is totally different from managing.
Correct me if Im wrong but the last time we won the Over 40s All-Ireland was in 1996 and I dont think Terry was over that team.
Yes he was over Cavan Juniors this year and made a good enough job of them but how serious was it taken?
No disrespect to Terry but I really think that we should b looking at bigger names and managers who have won something at inter-County level.
Lacken Legend,Do you honestly think Terry Hyland is good enough to manage Cavan Seniors?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: LackenLegend on August 01, 2008, 11:26:46 AM
Boojangles i assure you i am neither of the Hyland lads but i have a fair idea who you are and you are not around that long if you ask me. I never said he was the right man for the job but "not knowing his arsehole from his ear hole" isn't true and i felt i had to stand up for my fellow clubman there.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on August 01, 2008, 11:29:40 AM
Quote from: boojangles on July 31, 2008, 09:01:18 PM
Lacken Legend,Do you honestly think Terry Hyland is good enough to manage Cavan Seniors?

Well they thought that Donal was good enough, a man who had managed the Cavan minors with no great success, had managed no club team.  He was always on a hiding to nothing.  
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on August 01, 2008, 01:16:58 PM
Ok Lacken Legend I apologise for that statement,it was obviously OTT.Im sure you probably do know who I am.I have never made any attempt to disguise it.While I may not b that old Im playing Senior football 8 years,mayb that doesnt entitle me to an opinion but anyway it still gives me no right to insult anyone like that and again I apologise.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Hollow Man on August 01, 2008, 01:42:38 PM
I think we've had problems with you before "Boojangles".

Back off.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on August 01, 2008, 02:03:48 PM
Quote from: Hollow Man on August 01, 2008, 01:42:38 PM
I think we've had problems with you before "Boojangles".

Back off.

At least he has the testicular fortitude to let his club be known  ;)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Hollow Man on August 01, 2008, 03:15:34 PM
???

No one ever asked me what club I play for.

It's Ramor, by the way.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on August 01, 2008, 03:43:28 PM
Quote from: Hollow Man on August 01, 2008, 03:15:34 PM
???

No one ever asked me what club I play for.

It's Ramor, by the way.

ah a mouthpiece from Ramor, shouldnt be too hard to find out who you are then.  ;)  ;D

(im only joking by the way,i dont actually give a f**k who anyone on this board is)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Hollow Man on August 01, 2008, 04:33:33 PM
The fact that it is you who calls me a mouthpiece is high praise indeed.

Now back off. :-*
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Mr. Pain on August 01, 2008, 04:47:47 PM
Mr. Pain thinks you all need to back the hell off. Its getting like Mullingar in here. Mr. Pain thinks it is such a pity Mr. Keogan is gone as the topic of his "carry-on" approach to management had us all in agreement, well most of the time anyway. The only way Mr. Pain can see this ending is some sort of a virtual dance off where the losers be banished from the GAA board. Oh yeaaaah!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on August 01, 2008, 07:41:40 PM
Quote from: Hollow Man on August 01, 2008, 01:42:38 PM
I think we've had problems with you before "Boojangles".

Back off.
And 'WE' being who??
I'l take that comment in the light heartedness it was meant Hollow Man ye?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Hollow Man on August 02, 2008, 08:00:58 AM

Boojangles, I must admit that I dislike your internet persona, though I know your identity and you're not the worst. ;)

I also know who Ballyhaise'Man' is and... hmmmm. As they say on Oprah, let's not go there.

Over to you to prove my point Ballyhaise.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on August 02, 2008, 02:57:28 PM
Jesus this is a terror,everybody seems to know who I am on this thread.I'm not even sure of my neighbour Ballyhaise Mans identity.I took you boys for granted on your knowledge of Cavan football.Well I will always speak my mind whether its on this board or away from it.Hollow Man being from Virginia Im sure we'v tripped across eachother socially.I always got on with most Ramor lads,yas are a bit mental like us Drumalee lads.
How yas finding PJ Buckley this year? I trained a bit under him in Dublin when he was over Mullahoran,he seemed a big man on fitness anyway.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on August 02, 2008, 05:18:32 PM
Quote from: Hollow Man on August 02, 2008, 08:00:58 AM

Boojangles, I must admit that I dislike your internet persona, though I know your identity and you're not the worst. ;)

I also know who Ballyhaise'Man' is and... hmmmm. As they say on Oprah, let's not go there.

Over to you to prove my point Ballyhaise.



My internet path has just been, i'm pretty sure, GAA Board/Local GAA Discussion/Official Cavan GAA Thread. Hollow Man, I've been tempted to ask you in respect of a few of your postings but now seems as good a time as any, what is the precise relevance of the above to Cavan GAA? Is there some sort of Bebo for over 12's type site you could continue this fascinating discussion on? Just a thought.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on August 03, 2008, 05:46:51 PM
Crosserlough 0-13 Gowna 0-9

how do ye reckon you will do against them HM?
Heard Declan Gaffney was very good at midfield
didnt hear who played well or poorly for Gowna

as for Intermediate

Kill 1-16 Swanlinbar 2-06

Bit of a shock there  :o
i know Kill came back well but id have thought Swad would have too much for them with all the Cunninghams and Robbie Prior and co.

JFC
Templeport beat Cornafean 0-12 to 0-9

Under 21
Ballinagh beat Castlerahan 0-15 to 1-10,Bit suprised there as Castlerahan would have been strong this year at Under 21 with Mackey,Flanagan,Brian Coleman,Fiachra Cork,Daniel Lynch and co ,This Team would have won Minor leage and Championship a few years ago.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on August 03, 2008, 07:38:43 PM
Quote from: Hollow Man on August 02, 2008, 08:00:58 AM

Boojangles, I must admit that I dislike your internet persona, though I know your identity and you're not the worst. ;)

I also know who Ballyhaise'Man' is and... hmmmm. As they say on Oprah, let's not go there.

Over to you to prove my point Ballyhaise.

you've caught me out Hollow Man

Im really a woman  :-*

im more interested in Fake Tan than Football.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on August 03, 2008, 08:46:36 PM
Ah jesus christ Haise Man between yourself coming out and Hollow Man owing up to being a Closet fan of Orpah is it any shagging wonder Cavan football is where it is. Ramor's demise from the heady days of the early 90's has at last been explained, don't think the McNamees/Coles etc. would have been wasting their time whiling daylight hours away in the TV company of womankinds answer to Jerry Springer, well maybe they were but would have had the smarts not to own up to it.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on August 04, 2008, 09:56:37 PM
Lavey beat Killinkere think it was 2-11 to 0-13,but dont hold me to that.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4sam on August 05, 2008, 09:43:13 AM
Castlerahan should have been the favourites to win this competition this year, after all we won it last year with the same team bar 1 player. But with injuries and lads away for the summer it was never going to be easy. Pauric Smith is injured, needs an operation on knee, Fergal Flanagan has a broken hand and Ronan Brady is also injured. Fiachra Cork, Daniel Lynch, Shane Boylan and Sean Fitzpatrick are in Chicago. In sayin that Castlerahan should have no excuses. They were 7 points up at half time and it looked to be over. Ballinagh showed great spirit to get back into it and Castlerahan had no answer. Didn't help ourselves by some decisions made on the line or lack of them. Fair play to Ballinagh on a good win.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: The Bottom Brick on August 05, 2008, 01:15:50 PM
Any more rumours as to who the new manager is going to be?

Who will pick it?

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on August 05, 2008, 05:10:08 PM
Quote from: The Bottom Brick on August 05, 2008, 01:15:50 PM
Any more rumours as to who the new manager is going to be?

Who will pick it?



Was just home for the weekend and the news i got is depressing. A lad I know was at a wedding attended by the county chairman (Can't remember his name now). He got talking to him about the county job. Well our chairman told him that it would be great if King were to get it since he achieved so much in the past. My friend asks what exactly has he achieved since he quit playing. Chairman says he took the leaguers to junior championship. My buddy leaves depressed that head man in Cavan could come up with such shit. You see, in Killeshandra everyone knows what King is like. He was the biggest problem McHugh had in terms of getting him to train cos King thought he was bigger than Cavan. I believe McHugh told him to do the work or F*ck off. His managerial career has been nothing great. He refused to manage leaguers for years instead taking the money from Belturbet - where he achieved nothing. He applied for Cavan job last 2 times it came up and was refused. He then decided to take on Killeshandra when a couple of decent underage teams started coming through. These Underage teams were brought through from U16 by Junior McKiernan. Last year King said he wouldn't be manager but would help out Junior McKiernan and Tom Downes as senior management team - but as things started going well, suddenly King was manager,prancing around with his Maor bib and doing interviews with the Celt. But ask any player in Killesandra who the brains behind the operation is and they'll tell you Junior McKiernan. King is unable to compile a good team talk, motivate players (his speeches before games almost have the lads laughing), make calls on the line etc. etc. The only people who think the man is a good manager are people who have never worked with him. King in charge would be an unmitigated disaster.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on August 05, 2008, 05:58:29 PM
I heard the same more or less about Stephen King.No real clue or cuteness along the line but in his defence-My brother was one of the Coaches on the Under 15 development squad(this team will make up our County Minor team next year) 2 years ago along with Stephen King.He said that basically King was only learning and had no clue about Coaching methods but was very eager to learn and was always asking questions.Something which my brother found impressive for a man of his age and standing as a player to b listening to young lads like Nicholas Walsh and my brother.
But if we'r talking about giving him the Senior job I am dead against it.I really dont think there is man in the County who can do the job.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on August 05, 2008, 10:36:18 PM
Crosserlough 0-13 Gowna 0-9

how do ye reckon you will do against them HM?
Heard Declan Gaffney was very good at midfield
didnt hear who played well or poorly for Gowna

Crosserlough were much the better team  The only man on the Gowna team that you would pick was?......you guessed it Dermot McCabe.  He was trying to win it single handed.  Gaffney(or was it the other midfielder?) had a good game with a lot of good highfielding.  But then there wasn't really much opposition.  Gowna played with the wind in the first half but it was obvious that Crosserlough were the better team.  The only thing to br decided was whether Crosserlough could use the wind and they did.  

The forwards for Crosserlough had the beating of their opposite number in all area.  McKiernan I think was taking the frees and he was very good both with and against the wind.  He looks a bit light but it wouldn't be the first time that we carrieda free taker.

Will they go further?  Have the pedigree and looked good but Gowna were not really at the races.  

A question to answer.  Do you think that the Cavan senior champions will go anywhere in the AI club championship?  We talk about who we want to manager the county team but I don't see the county team doing much until one of our clubs do well in the Club AI.  And Antrim who last year had St. Galls in the Club AI final.  They've won the Tommy Murphy cup.  There will be no easy team in next years Ulster Championship!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on August 06, 2008, 12:50:16 AM
Wheres Hollow Man??
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Hollow Man on August 06, 2008, 11:13:23 AM
Here. Why?

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Babe Ruth 47 on August 06, 2008, 01:06:51 PM
 Well Lads, long time lurker, first time poster. Glad to finally see some fairly reasoned debate on Cavan football.

Was really looking forward to the start of the championship after Cavan's demise, there has however been very little to get excited about. Every
single game was of a poor standard with only the Gaels showing glimpses of brilliance. You have to admire their strength and depth, with three county minors all stating on the bench.

Crosserlough have a very lively team and I'm really looking forward to see them play Killygarry. Should be a good open game.

The game between the Gaels and Mullahoran has the potential to be a cracker but I fear the Gaels will destroy them. Only for Paul the Gunner and Eddie they looked very poor against Belturbet. If only Belturbet had given Jason enough ball it could have been a surprise. As far as I remember they only
let in two balls to him in the first half, both of which he won and scored.

The qualifiers look like there is the potential for some great games. Castlerahan and Gowna will be trying to resurrect their year's but I feel
the later are as good as finished. Will be interesting to see Ballinagh playing after their reprieve. They will find it extremely hard to progress
but have a handy enough opening game an a huge incentive.

Hopefully we can see some good football and maybe give some of the good intercounty managers out there the incentive to take an interest in the
Cavan senior team.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on August 06, 2008, 03:46:02 PM
Quote from: Babe Ruth 47 on August 06, 2008, 01:06:51 PM
Well Lads, long time lurker, first time poster. Glad to finally see some fairly reasoned debate on Cavan football.

Was really looking forward to the start of the championship after Cavan's demise, there has however been very little to get excited about. Every
single game was of a poor standard with only the Gaels showing glimpses of brilliance. You have to admire their strength and depth, with three county minors all stating on the bench.

Crosserlough have a very lively team and I'm really looking forward to see them play Killygarry. Should be a good open game.

The game between the Gaels and Mullahoran has the potential to be a cracker but I fear the Gaels will destroy them. Only for Paul the Gunner and Eddie they looked very poor against Belturbet. If only Belturbet had given Jason enough ball it could have been a surprise. As far as I remember they only
let in two balls to him in the first half, both of which he won and scored.

The qualifiers look like there is the potential for some great games. Castlerahan and Gowna will be trying to resurrect their year's but I feel
the later are as good as finished. Will be interesting to see Ballinagh playing after their reprieve. They will find it extremely hard to progress
but have a handy enough opening game an a huge incentive.

Hopefully we can see some good football and maybe give some of the good intercounty managers out there the incentive to take an interest in the
Cavan senior team.

Welcome to the board Babe Ruth, Good analysis of Cavan Club Football.
If you were ranking Cavan Club Football in its competitivety in regards to the Ulster Club

id rank the counties by the following

1.Armagh(really Crossmaglen but still an Armagh team wins it so often)
2.Derry(Loup,Bellaghy,Balinderry have all won an Ulster Club)
3.= Antrim(St Galls former All Ireland Club Finalists and Cargin are strong)
3.=Tyrone(strong club scene as well with Errigal,Carrickmore and champions Dromore)
5.=Down(One strong team like Cavan who dominate alot in Mayobridge who frequently flatter to deceive in Ulster although correct me if im wrong,they have reached an Ulster Final)
6.=Fermanagh(the only reason they are here is because of Enniskillen Gaels recent good performances in reaching an Ulster Final,i dont think theres much else of a high quality in the county,certainly Newtownbutler werent very strong last year
6.Cavan(One team Cavan Gaels have dominated with an odd Mullahoran win here or there, Neither have made any impact on the Ulster Club.
7.Monaghan(Clontibret and Blaney can always put up a challenge,But neither along with other winners,Latton and Mageracloone have really challenged for an Ulster Club recently that is.)
8.Donegal(For some reason their teams dont do well in the Ulster Club,St Eunans seem to win most years,but most other teams including the Gaels can handle them easily in the UC.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Hollow Man on August 06, 2008, 04:12:07 PM
What's your criteria for ranking Cavan ahead of Monaghan?

No Cavan club has ever won the Ulster club, while a Scotstown won it a few times and reached an All Ireland club final and Blayney I think either won it or reached the Ulster final.

Also, their champions Clontibret have lost by a point to Cross maglen two years in a row. Much better track record than Cavan, unfortunately.

Good post Babe Ruth, welcome to the board. Keep posting sense and you'll be very welcome!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Hollow Man on August 06, 2008, 04:52:05 PM
Now that I think of it, Inniskeen won the Ulster and All Ireland intermediate two years ago and MOnaghan Harpd won the Ulster junior the same year - they are light years ahead of us!

All we have to cling to is Drumgoon a few years ago and Ballinagh, who were a senior team in an intermediate competition. In all fairness, they were Division One league champions and only that they slipped up so many times in the championship they wouldn't have won it.

In saying that, they were very impressive. Remember how they scrped by Monaghan's Tyholland, a real intermediate side...

On a side note, Monaghan football is so far ahead of us it's not funny anymore. Leaving aside senior level, they have reached two McRory finals, an Ulster Under 21 final and a Ulster minor final in the last four years, and only lost them all narrowly.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on August 06, 2008, 05:18:07 PM
Quote from: Hollow Man on August 06, 2008, 04:12:07 PM
What's your criteria for ranking Cavan ahead of Monaghan?

No Cavan club has ever won the Ulster club, while a Scotstown won it a few times and reached an All Ireland club final and Blayney I think either won it or reached the Ulster final.

Also, their champions Clontibret have lost by a point to Cross maglen two years in a row. Much better track record than Cavan, unfortunately.

Good post Babe Ruth, welcome to the board. Keep posting sense and you'll be very welcome!

I was only going over the Ulster Senior Club championship Hollowman

id put Cavan Senior club football ahead of Monaghan over the last 5 years or so because
the Gaels have beaten Magheracloone, Latton and Clontibret, all Monaghan Champions,in the Ulster Club, Gaels have also lost to Cross by only a few points a few years ago in Enniskillen,although they have taken bad beatens by Ballinderry and Galls. I dont know enough of Monaghan Intermediate and Junior championships to compare them to ours.
Overall though as you say Monaghan Football at underage,College,Under 21 is streets ahead of us.

Also a question re Drumgoon, Their Junior All Ireland win wasnt the same competition, of nowadays, I think all games were hosted by a Monaghan team(Cremartin??)
a great acheivement no doubt though.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Hollow Man on August 06, 2008, 05:56:29 PM
Alright, I just thought when you said Ulster club that you meant that and not Ulster senior club.

Good point about the Gaels beating Latton and Magheracloone. When did they beat Clontibret? I don't think they did, although I am open to correction on that.

Also, Latton and Magheracloone had both won their first ever Monaghan SFC's, whereas the Gaels were very experienced. I can imagine the sessions in the fortnight leading up to the Ulster club!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on August 06, 2008, 06:17:05 PM
Quote from: Hollow Man on August 06, 2008, 05:56:29 PM
Alright, I just thought when you said Ulster club that you meant that and not Ulster senior club.

Good point about the Gaels beating Latton and Magheracloone. When did they beat Clontibret? I don't think they did, although I am open to correction on that.

Also, Latton and Magheracloone had both won their first ever Monaghan SFC's, whereas the Gaels were very experienced. I can imagine the sessions in the fortnight leading up to the Ulster club!

sorry it was actually Gowna that beat Clontibret not the Gaels in 2002 i think it was. my mistake
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Hollow Man on August 06, 2008, 07:11:34 PM
 ??? ???

Also, where is Boojangles?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on August 06, 2008, 08:11:11 PM
Quote from: Hollow Man on August 06, 2008, 07:11:34 PM
??? ???

Also, where is Boojangles?

Here.Why???

Hollow was getting worried about ya, thought you were pulling bit of a huff after what Anglo39 said.But obviously I was wrong.
Welcome Babe Ruth.The more the merrier on here.Agree totally about what you say about the Mullahoran-Gaels tie.While I would have a certain affection for Mullahoran I really think the Gaels could do serious damage.Mullahorans back-line is very very weak,and while they probably deserved their win against Belturbet thanks to the brilliance of Paul the Gunner,I cant see them getting away with such defending against the Gaels.Norbert Smith has quit.Ciaran Shields is in America and Dan Mel Reilly is struggling to make it.3 big losses for any club.
Lacken were really up for their 1st round tie against the Gaels and had been training very well all year yet the Gaels never really had to get into 5th gear.(Lacken Legend dont get offended now)
Id b very suprised if the Gaels dont make it 6 titles since 2001.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on August 06, 2008, 08:53:28 PM
Id b very suprised if the Gaels dont make it 6 titles since 2001.

But will they have a hope in Ulster club competion?

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on August 06, 2008, 10:29:42 PM
as for Lacken, a very understrength Ballyhaise team missing 7 starters against Drumalee beat Lacken last night,who were missing Trevor Crowe and Colm Sheridan and maybe a few more(LackenLegend will tell us im sure)
Lacken seem to have hit a bad patch of form.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Hollow Man on August 06, 2008, 11:36:51 PM
Were you playing yourself Haise Man?

How is Cullivan playing?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on August 07, 2008, 12:23:12 AM
Quote from: Hollow Man on August 06, 2008, 11:36:51 PM
Were you playing yourself Haise Man?

How is Cullivan playing?

i was Yes Hollow Man, why do you ask? still trying to find out who i am  :P  :P

Ray was outstanding, kicked some fantastic scores and got on alot of ball.

Hes coming back to his best.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: LackenLegend on August 07, 2008, 09:06:25 AM
Yeah, you're right there Boojangles the Gaels had it very handy in the second half especially. We totally collapsed as a unit at that stage. As for the Ballyhaise game i wouldn't be too bothered about it. I heard it was a shitty evening with poor football being played by teams missing players. I wasn't at it myself but from the Gaels game (not really something to go by i know) we were missing Trevor Crowe, Micheal Shanaghy, Colm Sheridan, Phillip Moynagh, Shane Sheridan.....can't remember if there was any more. Belturbet on Sunday is the big one.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4sam on August 07, 2008, 10:00:33 AM
Jaysus lads ye are on very late!!

So who do ye think will come through the qualifiers?

Castlerahan a bye Team 1
Knockbride v Ballinagh Team 2
Ramor v Losers C'lough/Gowna Team 3
Belturbet v Lacken Team 4


Think Ballinagh will beat Knockbride,
I'm going for a shock here and think ill pick Ramor to upset Gowna (although from what i heard Ramor were on beer for 3 days after losing to the Cucus)
And a full strenght Lacken to beat Belturbet

So that leaves
Castlerahan V Ballinagh
Ramor V Lacken

Ballinagh to beat a weakened Castlerahan side even with 3 county men
Lacken to beat Ramor

Leaving it a local derby in th qualifier final with Ballinagh winning.

Anyone else have any thoughts?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Cavanfan on August 07, 2008, 12:33:33 PM
From the Hoganstand


Cavan take alternative route in management appointment
07 August 2008


It is understood that Cavan County Board will be looking to a Dundalk-based recruiting company to help find a replacement for Donal Keogan, who left his position as Cavan senior team manager last month.

SportTrackerjobs provide an analysis support system for sportspeople and are the company that will play a major part in allocating a new senior boss in the Breffni County.

Anyone considered by the County Board as a potential candidate will be invited to apply online at www.sporttrackerjobs.ie and nominations from clubs within the county can be made until next Monday, after which a list will be constructed for interviews for the position.

According to Managing Director Peter Larkin the service will be free to Cavan on SportTracker's part in order to raise awareness of the company which began last year.

Cavan County Board chairman Philip Smith admitted that their reasons for using the recruiting companied were to consider all options and appoint the best person possible.

"We want to make the best effort we can to find the right man for the job which is why we're involving SportTracker," said Smith.

Whether or not the new Cavan boss' appointment proves to be a success could have a telling impact on whether the company will last, but with several managers departing in recent weeks it looks to be a good time to launch the programme.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on August 07, 2008, 01:14:34 PM
Quote from: Denn Forever on August 06, 2008, 08:53:28 PM
Id b very suprised if the Gaels dont make it 6 titles since 2001.

But will they have a hope in Ulster club competion?



The quick answer is No.The Gaels in the middle of their 3 in a row winning team(03-05) were at their strongest and were beating strong opposition in Mullahoran for 3 years.Thens when they should have been winning Ulster.They had Anthony Forde,Micky Graham and Cathal Collins still on top of their game and they had Micky Lyng at the height of his powers.Now they have neither.The Gaels may still win Ulster in the coming years but I dont think it will b this year.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Babe Ruth 47 on August 07, 2008, 01:42:02 PM
Similar views here too re the qualifiers, however I think Gowna will definitely overcome Ramor. The Belturbet v Lacken game should be extremely close with Lacken probably shading it. I hope for their sake Finbarr Reilly steps up to the mark as he was very poor the last day. Was very impressed with Raymond Galligan. Although he missed a lot of chances she was always showing and won a huge amount of ball of Rabitte. My predictions for the semis are too great matches:

C'rahan v Ballinagh
Gowna v Lacken

with probably Ballinagh and Lacken victorious.

As for the county champions the Gaels seem right on track, though if the draw goes their way I feel maybe Killygarry give them a rattle in the County final. I seen Killygarry three times this year and when they hit the right gear they play with a great intensity. Questions remain can they carry the form they have shown into the championship after the break they have had
though Cuchallains are in a similar situation. I feel they should easily overcome Denn and would relish the opportunity of a pop at the Gaels.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on August 07, 2008, 02:04:58 PM
From Hoganstand...

Cavan take alternative route in management appointment
07 August 2008


It is understood that Cavan County Board will be looking to a Dundalk-based recruiting company to help find a replacement for Donal Keogan, who left his position as Cavan senior team manager last month.

SportTrackerjobs provide an analysis support system for sportspeople and are the company that will play a major part in allocating a new senior boss in the Breffni County.

Anyone considered by the County Board as a potential candidate will be invited to apply online at www.sporttrackerjobs.ie and nominations from clubs within the county can be made until next Monday, after which a list will be constructed for interviews for the position.

According to Managing Director Peter Larkin the service will be free to Cavan on SportTracker's part in order to raise awareness of the company which began last year.

Cavan County Board chairman Philip Smith admitted that their reasons for using the recruiting companied were to consider all options and appoint the best person possible.

"We want to make the best effort we can to find the right man for the job which is why we're involving SportTracker," said Smith.

Whether or not the new Cavan boss' appointment proves to be a success could have a telling impact on whether the company will last, but with several managers departing in recent weeks it looks to be a good time to launch the programme.

Are we going mad or something. Somehow I can't see Joe Kiernan touching up his cv and sending it into a recruitment agency. I think our county board have totally lost the plot. The best managers don't need us as much as we need them and I simply can't see this approach working at all.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on August 07, 2008, 03:36:16 PM
My Application for the Cavan job is going in today lads.

Boojangles can be the Physical Trainer

Myles,Maniac,Anglocelt Selectors

HollowMan can do PR.

and there will be jobs for all of you aswell  ;)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on August 07, 2008, 03:53:54 PM
 ;D

Sweet Lord, we're on ebay looking for a new manager. What next?

Ach sure it'll be a good gauge for the county board to see the level and calibre of interest out there. If they don't like the applications, they can always approach their own candidates I suppose.

In a way I'm slightly rncouraged that it seems to indicate they're not just looking within the county because I don't think there's anyone there could do it.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on August 07, 2008, 03:58:30 PM
whats the bet they get al load of lads applying for the craic?

for example

Name: BallyhaiseMan

CV: i won the National League, Ulster Championship and the All Ireland 10 years in a row on GAA Football 2008 on the PS2  ;D

how on earth you need help with these things from Sports Management Companies i dont know  ::)

Pathetic on the county boards behalf.



Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tierworker blue on August 07, 2008, 09:01:25 PM

personally i think its a county board cop-out...if it goes badly they can wash their hands of it and if it goes well (perhaps it might...it can't exactly get worse than it was under keogan!) they can pat each other on the back for being innovative and ahead of the pack.
until i research the company involved i reserve judgement on them, but it smacks of snake oil sales at the moment.
on a positive note, im all for keeping the decision away from the county board, because in my opinion they hav'nt a clue about so many aspects of how things should be done, but i believe that a panel of intelligent, respected ex players (for example john donnellan, ronan carolan etc etc...there are plenty of capable people available) could have gotten their heads together and came up with a list of candidates for the job...essentially doing exactly what this recruitment company is doing, but keeping it all 'in house' so to speak. im afraid of someone who is all talk and no trousers getting the job just because they do a good interview. we need to start getting things right at every level from here on out if we're to get out of the doldrums and have a bright future (which is entirely possible...it may take a while, but it can be done!)
anyway, that's my sixpence...whether we agree with this approach or not it's going ahead, so hopefully it will click (i'll happilly eat my words in exchange for some success to shout about!)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cornafean on August 08, 2008, 09:22:09 AM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on August 05, 2008, 05:10:08 PM

A lad I know was at a wedding attended by the county chairman (Can't remember his name now). He got talking to him about the county job. Well our chairman told him that it would be great if King were to get it since he achieved so much in the past.

Dunno where you heard that story Myles, but it sounds like a load of cobblers. There is absolutely no way that Philip Smith, the County Chairman, would say something like that, either in relation to Stephen King or any other possible candidate for the position.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Hollow Man on August 08, 2008, 11:35:57 AM
It struck me as complete dung too, but bear in mind that this is the same Myles who, on another thread about players who went on to high-profile success after playing county football, wrote that "Big Tom O'Reilly was a TD and I'm sure there are other TD's, I'll have to look into it."

Anyone with even half a brain cell would immediately think of John Wilson, All Ireland senior medallist and Tanaiste. But not old Mylie!

Also, Myles has a serious problem with Stephen King for some reason, and to the best of my knowledge has neevr said a good word about his clubman on this board.

Myles, I like you but you need to get away from the likes Ballyhaise Man and learn to think things through clearly before you post something.

What says you AngloCelt39, moral guardian of all that is right and fair on this board? Want to come down hard on the Hollow Man, or will you leave it to class clown BH Man - he of the "Cavan club football is better then Monaghan, Gaels beat Clontibret, Wee Eamon, Aidan Connolly" school of idiocy -  to bite the lure?


Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Mr. Pain on August 08, 2008, 11:48:48 AM
Oh my God the shits kicking off here! And Mr. Pain don't mean that runny shit an athlete might get mid-action or the stuff you pourput on your chicken. No way Mr. Pain is talkin' about good old hard house-knockin', decapitating, pulpitating, retardating shhiiiiiiiiiiiiiit! We is gonna have to put some plastic sheets down here and take away the ornaments cause the shit is flying in here. Rant over! 
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on August 08, 2008, 12:05:34 PM
First up - that is a true story. Believe it or not, thats up to you. The thing is, the chairman doesn't get to pick the manager in isolation. 2nd I did embarrasingly forget John Wilson, I knew I was forgeting someone and it just wouldn't come to me. My apologies Hollowman for this terrible crime. I have said a good word about King, i.e. he was a very good footballer. However, I have also outlined that the negative side of the man far out weighs the good. **Deleted**. As i said before, it is always clowns from other parts of the county, that just seen the man play, who come out defending his greatness. I am glad you like me Hollowman, it means a lot to me. Unfortunately, I find your posts totally over aggressive. You didn't need to come on implying that I had half a brain cell did you? Then throw in a kick a BHM (who in my opinion is a very good and fair poster on this board), and then another dig at Anglocelt39. Part of me thinks you are a piss taker here to raise a row and sit back at home on your pc giggling to yourself - is that what passes for fun now in Virginia? It is you that needs to  take a deep breath before posting I'm afraid.

Now onto cornafean. Can I ask you 2 questions? Anytime you have come onto a Cavan topic on this board it was to defend the county chairman (first Cartright and now Smith). You have posted numerous occassions on the board but not on Cavan issues. Why do you not post on the Cavan thread? Is it a coincidence you have defended both these men in the past, would you be on the county board at some level?

Relax Mr Pain - I'm not going to rise to it in the way some would like me to - put the plastic sheeting away.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on August 08, 2008, 12:39:58 PM
Quote from: Hollow Man on August 08, 2008, 11:35:57 AM

What says you AngloCelt39, moral guardian of all that is right and fair on this board? Want to come down hard on the Hollow Man, or will you leave it to class clown BH Man - he of the "Cavan club football is better then Monaghan, Gaels beat Clontibret, Wee Eamon, Aidan Connolly" school of idiocy -  to bite the lure?



Hollow Man I think You should have thought that sentence thru before ya posted it cos it doesnt make much sense.
Anyway lads relax,Are we gonna have a big split on this thread or we gonna stop the petty arguments.Iv had my problems with MR.Pain before but thats all sorted.Hollow you and BH Man obviously will never marry but there is no need for the rest of the slagging towards Myles.
I find his posts usually well thought out and informative.He obviously has a thing about Stephen King but I can see where he is coming from.I know plenty of Ex and Current Cavan footballers who would still b treated like some kinda Gods around the place just because of who they are,but if the truth be told they are nothing but chancers who are still living off their names and hav no problem exploiting people because they still think they are somebody.
Im not implying in any way that Stephen King was like this.
Anyway lads Chill the f**k out
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on August 08, 2008, 01:27:17 PM
Quote from: Hollow Man on August 08, 2008, 11:35:57 AM
It struck me as complete dung too, but bear in mind that this is the same Myles who, on another thread about players who went on to high-profile success after playing county football, wrote that "Big Tom O'Reilly was a TD and I'm sure there are other TD's, I'll have to look into it."

Anyone with even half a brain cell would immediately think of John Wilson, All Ireland senior medallist and Tanaiste. But not old Mylie!

Also, Myles has a serious problem with Stephen King for some reason, and to the best of my knowledge has neevr said a good word about his clubman on this board.

Myles, I like you but you need to get away from the likes Ballyhaise Man and learn to think things through clearly before you post something.

What says you AngloCelt39, moral guardian of all that is right and fair on this board? Want to come down hard on the Hollow Man, or will you leave it to class clown BH Man - he of the "Cavan club football is better then Monaghan, Gaels beat Clontibret, Wee Eamon, Aidan Connolly" school of idiocy -  to bite the lure?




did you just blow a casket typing out that post?
For someone who once told me to calm down on here, maybe you heed your own advice.
Lunatic  :D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cornafean on August 08, 2008, 02:03:32 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on August 08, 2008, 12:05:34 PM
Now onto cornafean. Can I ask you 2 questions? Anytime you have come onto a Cavan topic on this board it was to defend the county chairman (first Cartright and now Smith). You have posted numerous occassions on the board but not on Cavan issues. Why do you not post on the Cavan thread? Is it a coincidence you have defended both these men in the past, would you be on the county board at some level?

I most certainly am not a County Board member at any level, nor have I ever been. What I said was not a defence of Phil Smith. I merely pointed out that Smith would never make such a comment to anyone, least of all at a social function such as a wedding.

I make no apology for the relative infrequency of my posts here (athough these are not as infrequent as you make out). Unlike some others I have a job to do and do not log on as often as I would like. And unlike some others I only bother posting when I feel I have something useful to say.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on August 08, 2008, 02:07:45 PM
Quote from: cornafean on August 08, 2008, 02:03:32 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on August 08, 2008, 12:05:34 PM
Now onto cornafean. Can I ask you 2 questions? Anytime you have come onto a Cavan topic on this board it was to defend the county chairman (first Cartright and now Smith). You have posted numerous occassions on the board but not on Cavan issues. Why do you not post on the Cavan thread? Is it a coincidence you have defended both these men in the past, would you be on the county board at some level?

I most certainly am not a County Board member at any level, nor have I ever been. What I said was not a defence of Phil Smith. I merely pointed out that Smith would never make such a comment to anyone, least of all at a social function such as a wedding.

I make no apology for the relative infrequency of my post here. Unlike some others I have a job to do and do not log on as often as I like. And unlike some others I only bother posting when I feel I have something useful to say.

If we all kept to that it would be a quiet board  :P
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on August 08, 2008, 02:55:32 PM
Quote from: cornafean on August 08, 2008, 02:03:32 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on August 08, 2008, 12:05:34 PM
Now onto cornafean. Can I ask you 2 questions? Anytime you have come onto a Cavan topic on this board it was to defend the county chairman (first Cartright and now Smith). You have posted numerous occassions on the board but not on Cavan issues. Why do you not post on the Cavan thread? Is it a coincidence you have defended both these men in the past, would you be on the county board at some level?

I most certainly am not a County Board member at any level, nor have I ever been. What I said was not a defence of Phil Smith. I merely pointed out that Smith would never make such a comment to anyone, least of all at a social function such as a wedding.

I make no apology for the relative infrequency of my posts here (athough these are not as infrequent as you make out). Unlike some others I have a job to do and do not log on as often as I would like. And unlike some others I only bother posting when I feel I have something useful to say.

Just to make it clear. You have posted 122 times, of which 4 were on the Cavan thread. Surely you have something interesting to say - perhaps about the dire state of Cornafean football this year, where ye were threatened with relegation to div 4? Now you must have some connections with Phillip Smith if you claim to know him so well that you could say it is impossible that he made that comment - cos I know for absilute certainty that he did say that. And you know what - he is fully entitled to have an opinion on the matter.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cornafean on August 08, 2008, 03:11:11 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on August 08, 2008, 02:55:32 PM
... you could say it is impossible that he made that comment - cos I know for absilute certainty that he did say that.

How can this be so when you say yourself that you heard this story second hand?  "A lad I know..."
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on August 08, 2008, 05:18:06 PM
Quote from: cornafean on August 08, 2008, 03:11:11 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on August 08, 2008, 02:55:32 PM
... you could say it is impossible that he made that comment - cos I know for absilute certainty that he did say that.

How can this be so when you say yourself that you heard this story second hand?  "A lad I know..."

Because the guy I know is a very good friend of mine. He doesn't talk shite and when he tells me something I know I can stand by it 100%.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cornafean on August 08, 2008, 05:31:49 PM
Fair enough.  It will be interesting to see if King gets the job.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on August 08, 2008, 05:43:43 PM
I can't see them going to the very public and somewhat embarrassing trouble of this sportstracker malarkey if they were sure of their man already and it was a done deal. I know they went through some sort of charade before appointing Keogan, with interviews etc., but I doubt they'd be this elaborate if King was already the anointed son.

I'll restate the opinion that I doubt there's anyone in the county could do the job well or command the respect and discipline of a very wayward buynch of players that at the very least need a good kick in the hole to buck them up. Unless there's someone out there hiding their very big light under a very big bushel.

- Actually, I'd heard that about those team pics before alright but I'd be careful about posting an allegation like that, you might be best advised to modify it with an 'allegedly' in there somewhere.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on August 09, 2008, 10:51:55 AM
Looking for a new County manager via a recruitment agency, I'd share a lot of the reservations of various posters and would particularly be in agreement with the Tierworker man. Just a few thoughts of my own, does this in part reflect the a bit of desperation along the lines that not many fellas that want to advance their reputation would be all that keen to go near us, given the sort of stories doing the rounds re discipline/application etc. The one hope I would have with this approach is if there is a shit keen sort lurking out there that might be uncovered by a headhunter. Putting it another way, not too many people had heard of Jason Ryan two years ago and he's done a bloody good job at Wexford, particulalry impressed with how he picked them up against Down after the Dublin game. The next appointment is vital, as there is potential there, look at where Kildare are this weekend and we had them all but bet up a stick a few weeks ago.

PS-welcome on board to our new member Babe Ruth. I can do no better than repeat verbatim the words of our irony free zone from the Shores of Lough Ramor........" Keep posting sense and you'll be very welcome!........................................................."
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on August 09, 2008, 12:58:19 PM
Quote from: cornafean on August 08, 2008, 05:31:49 PM
Fair enough.  It will be interesting to see if King gets the job.
I don't think the comment by smith means that King will get the job, he was only stating his own opinion on the thing. The point I was making initially was that it worried me that people so high up the ladder hold King in such high regard. In the end of the day it will be a group of people who decide and best of luck to whoever gets the job.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Hollow Man on August 09, 2008, 01:13:14 PM
Myles, on a scale of one to ten, how would you rank Stephen King as a person?

One being Frog Ward and ten being Gandhi.

Can you also give reasons for your answer.

Cheers,

Hollow Man

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on August 09, 2008, 02:04:28 PM
I won't be rating King as a person - it has nothing to do with this board. I will only comment on him as a player and in terms of his ability to be Cavan manager.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Hollow Man on August 09, 2008, 03:51:21 PM
OK, keep to "comments on him as a player and ability to be Cavan manager."

Wait a second ??? WHAT IS THIS?

QuoteRemember when he tried to sell photos of the 97 team letting people think the money was for the county board when he was pocketing the lot.

???

Does implying* that he defrauded people have anything to do with his playing ability? His ability to manage a football team? I thought not.

Once again, and I don't like saying this, but the Hollow Man's gut instinct has been proven right on you myles.




*NOTE: You actually didn't 'imply' anything, you openly stated that King mislead people and took their money. Just wanted to clarify that.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on August 09, 2008, 05:40:19 PM
Begod Hollow Man but you're a man of many talents, daytime TV correspondent and now, it appears, barstool lawyer to boot. Just as a matter of interest could you answer me a question if it's not too much trouble. How far back did you have to delve to uncover this fascinating posting that you've just quoted from Myles. I'm a kind of getting a picture here of a lad with a bit of time to spare. Surely there's some oul satellite shopping channel out there doing omnibus re-runs of your hero Orpah's shows that would better occupy your time. Away with ye now like a good gauson and maybe you could write up a report on  a few Ramor fixtures for everybodys sakes.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Hollow Man on August 09, 2008, 05:46:12 PM
QuoteJust as a matter of interest could you answer me a question if it's not too much trouble. How far back did you have to delve to uncover this fascinating posting that you've just quoted from Myles

One page. :-*

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on August 09, 2008, 08:22:22 PM
Listen Hollowman, this is the last time I am going to reply to you directly, you are like a dog with a bone. I come on here to talk about football not to rate people or answer your every stupid question. Now, I think a candidate for the county Job ripping of the county board is relevant when deciding if that same person is suitable for the job. I don't really want to go on about it any more as the mods will be after me - but I am 100% certain of the facts of what happened since I even bought a line or two in the raffles for those photos, plus I know what the publicans of Killeshandra did with those pictures when they found out the truth. Now for christ sake let it go or go back to hoganstand - whichever is easier for you. I have had a belly full of your muck for one week.

ps - You might have gone back one page for that last quote but you went to a different thread for ammo on the previous attack you made on me.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on August 09, 2008, 09:21:56 PM
Hollow Man.Back off.You'r turning the thread into Catch Myles out.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: JMohan on August 09, 2008, 10:55:21 PM
What about Gerry McCarville as manager?
Didn't he do a good job with Cvaan Gaels?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on August 09, 2008, 11:23:52 PM
Just as a matter of interest could you answer me a question if it's not too much trouble. How far back did you have to delve to uncover this fascinating posting that you've just quoted from Myles

One page.


Ah jasus hollow child you get more disappointing by the minute, I mean you sourced that "information" reasonably quickly and that is the actual best use you could make of it? Maybe you need to hire a scriptwriter/assistant. What are you majoring in during transition year by the way, afternoon telly or legal studies for beginners................
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Mr. Pain on August 10, 2008, 03:56:10 PM
Myles you were caught out there but Anglo Celt you just keep digging. You tried to be smart and Hollow Man showed you up. Seriously, think of a response before you type. Mr. Pain thinks you need to get up very early in the morning to catch Hollow Man, very very early!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: The Bottom Brick on August 10, 2008, 06:35:32 PM
Like it or not Myles, this is NOT the place to say things like you said about King. It's all well and good having a bit of craic and slagging but that is out of order, regardless of what you may know, simply because it is an anonymous attack. I don't think you would say it to his face.

You also should be careful with this thing of "I heard from a friend", like in the alleged Phil Smith wedding conversation.

There are a few wind-up merchants on here; lads, let's just get on with talking football.

Mickey Moran was mentioned on here, looks like he is interested in Antrim, so we'll hardly get him... Anyone else been mentioned? Who within the county could get it? Terry Hyland? Ciaran Brady? Bernard Morris? Stephen King?

How many clubs are represented on here now as a matter of interest?

Redhills
Ballyhaise
Lacken
Drung
Cootehill
Cornafean?
Ramor
Killeshandra
Bailieborough?? Where is Tierworker??
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on August 10, 2008, 06:52:05 PM
Aren't all comments on the board anonymous? Haven't we all "attacked" Keoghan over the past year on his competence to manage Cavan. Don't presume to know what I would or even have said to someones face. Anyway, I'm done talking on the issue.

Mr Pain - may I ask what your club is, I believe you refused to tell us before?

Thatstheball - there is a contributer from Denn on here too (Denn Forever), Definetely one from Cornafean, then there is Lawrence of Knockbride who has gone missing (I presum he is from Knockbride, but you never know with the popularity of the bould Larry) think that might be it but there are a few that post the odd time that never stated where they were from.

Was watching Donaghy and Cushin there for Cork and Kerry and it got me thinking who is the tallest player in Cavan, playing at a decent level? Anyone got any ideas? A tall atheletic man on the square can cause some chaos with the right ball in.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on August 10, 2008, 08:27:54 PM
Mr Pain would be far better at getting the rise out of posters if he wasn't such a harmless oul fecker at heart......


Bricks question as to new bossman the more I think about it, it probably needs to be somebody from outside the county. There is no absolutely outstaning candidate inside the county and I'd be afraid that any internal appointment would be indebted to some of the movers and shakers (if that's the appropriate expression) at county board level. Theres a big clean up job to be done and the new man needs to be starting from a position of strength and taking shite from nobody-players or officials. Also needs to be somebody who will stay the distance for three or four years as we badly need a bit of continuity to allow players to be brought through on some sort of a planned basis. Very impressed with what McGeeney (and Grimley........) ended up achieving at Kildare with a limited enough bunch of players and as for Wexford.........so there is hope but big changes required.

Also like to see some of the emerging types on the local scene (Graham, Morris, King if he's willing to be in the background) brought into the setup with a view to being groomed for more responsibility later on. Where's Ray Cullivan now-he had some success with Pat's at Rannafast level, coaching over in Longford or some such?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: The Bottom Brick on August 10, 2008, 08:44:21 PM
Not all comments are anonymous because some people's identity is well-known, or easy to figure out.

To be honest Slasher, criticising Keogan as a manager is a long way from accusing someone of what you have accused King of. We all now plenty of shady stories about different football people from around the county, but nobody else posts specific things like you have, bar the odd vague lock-in story. I'm not trying to be a p***k here but I think your comment has no place on this board and if you don't remove it, I'll report it to the moderator.

Back to the football conversation. Ray Cullivan has a lot of experience as a manager but, again, not all that much success. If we could get his son back on the team and firing on all cylinders we would be better off!



Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on August 10, 2008, 08:48:05 PM
Just heard Ballymachugh beat Drumalee by a point with a last minute goal in the Intermediate Qualifiers.... that ballymachugh through to play Killeshandra and ourselves against Killinkere next weekend.... and Drumalee in the relegation playoff along with Swad and Laragh and possibly Killinkere as well...
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on August 10, 2008, 09:33:13 PM
Quote from: The Bottom Brick on August 10, 2008, 08:44:21 PM
Not all comments are anonymous because some people's identity is well-known, or easy to figure out.

To be honest Slasher, criticising Keogan as a manager is a long way from accusing someone of what you have accused King of. We all now plenty of shady stories about different football people from around the county, but nobody else posts specific things like you have, bar the odd vague lock-in story. I'm not trying to be a p***k here but I think your comment has no place on this board and if you don't remove it, I'll report it to the moderator.

Back to the football conversation. Ray Cullivan has a lot of experience as a manager but, again, not all that much success. If we could get his son back on the team and firing on all cylinders we would be better off!





Have it your way brick - I deleted the relevant section from my post. I think everyone has the jist of my comments anyhow so to keep the peace consider it done.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tierworker blue on August 10, 2008, 10:24:28 PM

Where is Tierworker??
[/quote]

Tierworker (or Teevurcher on your maps!) is a wee spot near b'boro...half in cavan, half in meath. traditionally most tierworker people play for the shamrocks, although the odd one has been known to play for kilmainhamwood (technically the parish team...it's a split parish)  or moynalty...depends on what national school you ended up at i suppose...the border zigs in and out like nobody's business! we used to have a team of our own waaaaay back in the day apparently (tierworker st. patricks) but it's so long ago that nobody remembers it.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4sam on August 11, 2008, 09:59:30 AM
What about my predictions lads, I didn't do too bad!!

Knockbride 1-08 Ballinagh 1-12
Gowna 0-16 Ramor 1-16 AET
Beturbet 0-10 Lacken 1-12

Just to clear thongs up for brick, I'm from Castlerahan, have stated so in the past.

By the way I think Knockbride are doomed now.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on August 11, 2008, 11:37:18 AM
Results from the weekend...

Senior
Knockbride 1-08 Ballinagh 1-12
Gowna 0-16 Ramor 1-16
Belturbet 0-10 Lacken 1-12

Intermediate
Cootehill 2-09 Laragh 1-08
Killeshandra 2-12 Swad 0-07  :)
Drumalee 1-06 Ballymachugh 1-07

Junior
Cornafean 2-09 Mountnugent 2-11
B'Bridge 1-12 Corlough 2-02
Kildallon 1-13 Maghera 1-07

Good win for our lads and a decent chance of going further against Ballymachugh. Very suprised Drumalee were beaten there. What happen Boojangles? Looks like the end of an era for Gowna too.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on August 11, 2008, 05:34:31 PM
Knockbride 1-08 Ballinagh 1-12

Conditions could only be blamed so much as overall it was a poor performance by both sides. Knockbride starting the better clocked up a 1-04 to 0-01 lead after 20 mins. Ballinagh eventually got going and probably played the more dominant part for the rest of the game. Having said that Ballinagh were very fortunate to get the last-gasp free to tie the match and just did enough in extra-time to come up with the goods.

While it wasn't a great performance from our lot, I felt the defence, especially the full-back line gave a solid account of themselves despite the poor relief given to them by there colleagues up front. To be fair to Ballinagh this was the type of game that a little over a year ago would have saw them choke out of the championship once again so it's good to see some grit in the team even if it wasn't pretty.


Belturbet 0-10 Lacken 1-12

A very workmanlike and comprehensive victory for Lacken who obliterated the Rories in the first-half. Raymond Galligan caused havoc at full-forward and produced some excellent scores his decision making at times is questionable and if Lacken are to cause real damage this year he will need to learn to take the safe option. Belturbet seemed lost without Rory Donohoe and only managed to put a good look on the scoreline when the game was long over.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on August 11, 2008, 09:07:02 PM
Was at the Belturbet/Lacken game and Belturbet were not at the races.  Heard someone say that the Lacken fullback playing on Jason Reilly was a minor.  Don't have a program so don't know who he was but didn't look out of place during the game.

Very poor football.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on August 12, 2008, 02:54:24 PM
Quote from: Homer on August 11, 2008, 05:34:31 PM
Knockbride 1-08 Ballinagh 1-12

Conditions could only be blamed so much as overall it was a poor performance by both sides. Knockbride starting the better clocked up a 1-04 to 0-01 lead after 20 mins. Ballinagh eventually got going and probably played the more dominant part for the rest of the game. Having said that Ballinagh were very fortunate to get the last-gasp free to tie the match and just did enough in extra-time to come up with the goods.

While it wasn't a great performance from our lot, I felt the defence, especially the full-back line gave a solid account of themselves despite the poor relief given to them by there colleagues up front. To be fair to Ballinagh this was the type of game that a little over a year ago would have saw them choke out of the championship once again so it's good to see some grit in the team even if it wasn't pretty.


Belturbet 0-10 Lacken 1-12

A very workmanlike and comprehensive victory for Lacken who obliterated the Rories in the first-half. Raymond Galligan caused havoc at full-forward and produced some excellent scores his decision making at times is questionable and if Lacken are to cause real damage this year he will need to learn to take the safe option. Belturbet seemed lost without Rory Donohoe and only managed to put a good look on the scoreline when the game was long over.

Homer - was Tierney playing for Knockbride? How did he play - I heard he was back on form.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on August 13, 2008, 04:17:39 PM
i hear Anthony Gaynor was back and made a big impact when he came on against Knockbride.

Anyone seen any players that they reckon could make the step up to inter county then, in this years Club Championship,

Il keep my mouth shut though,Hopefully it might stop the Ramor Tool  from posting for a while  ;D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on August 13, 2008, 05:13:14 PM
Jayus lads, I disappear for a few weeks holidays and it's mayhem on here. Poor ould Myles is being slated for stating what I thought was common knowledge around the county. There is of course the whole thing of the mask of the internet boards but I think it's a bit rich of anyone to bring that up on here following what has been said recently about many people, not least poor old Mr. Keoghan. Hollow Man's posts are at best funny but I won't lend any more time to such drivel*. Tierney is indeed back and playing well but I missed his latest outing. Is it the end of an era for Gowna? That's them facing a relegation battle isn't it? I must get a few games in this weekend to get back up to scratch with the club scene as this poster stands by his previous statement about attending County Games (Hollow Man could you check the archives for me on this one) if the very honourable, salt of the earth Mr. King is elevated to the greatest job of them all.


*I note that I do indeed mention his Hollowness again in this post.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on August 14, 2008, 01:50:06 AM
Good win for our lads and a decent chance of going further against Ballymachugh. Very suprised Drumalee were beaten there. What happen Boojangles? Looks like the end of an era for Gowna too.

[/quote]Still cant really talk about it Myles.Sick isnt a strong enough word.But as I said after the Ballyhaise
game there are a few problems(which I wont b getting in to) that will not b sorted this year in the club.We have some fine footballers but some lads just dont want it enough at the moment.
Weshould have won Sunday but we couldnt put Ballymachugh away and we got nailed with a terrible goal in the last minute.Yours truly had a difficult chance to equalise but the goalie palmed it off the bar.We scored from the rebound but the referee had blown his whistle with the ball still in the box but anyway.I doubt he wanted Extra-time.Fair play to Ballymachugh they never gave up but to b
honestI doubt they will beat Killeshandra.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Hollow Man on August 14, 2008, 04:48:38 PM
Everyone just CALM DOWN ok?

Boojangles, hard luck against Ballymachugh. We know all about the bad times, I'm sure Drumalee will bounce back. You would want to be careful you stay up though.

I was disappointed with Gowna, I felt we could have beaten them more comfortably, we got a wee bit nervous (including myself) and let them back when we should have had it won in normal time.

Still, nice to get a win after the disappointment of losing the first round.

Ballyhaise, let's make up. Please don't call me a tool, it hurts my feelings and we know I'm really soft from watching what Anglocelt curiously calls "Orpah" (I think I know what he's on about, it's a show on that new fangled 'television' yoke, isn't that right Mr Anglocelt? Don't spit out your Werthers Original now, and please don't try to be smart and end up looking stupid again).

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on August 14, 2008, 05:14:26 PM
We would wanna b very careful we stay up.No team is too good to b relegated as we found out last year.
Hollow whats the story with Shane Cole? Was speaking to him and Gary McNamee a few weeks ago but didnt get a proper chat with Cole.I havent sen him mentioned with Ramor since he came home.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Hollow Man on August 15, 2008, 12:53:15 AM
Cole is just back from injury. He was in Australia for a year there but he's home now and if we could get him to tune in and put the head down he'd be a good addition, I'm sure he'll make an appearance this summer yet.

The forwards are playing well enough now though so we're not too badly stuck.

Gary McNamee was in London for a while, hasn't much interest. The brother is playing very well actually.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on August 15, 2008, 09:39:49 PM
Cole is the most laid back fella I know which doesnt help him when it comes to the Football but the lad has serious talent.Eamon Coleman thought alot of him but the lad is a bit too fond of the good life.But he would b a serious addition if yas get him back playing the way he can.
Gary McNamee has been in Liverpool for a few years,he was playing with John Mitchells over there I believe but football has become only a social thing at this stage for him I think.A shame too because he was a fine footballer too.Great cutting in him.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on August 16, 2008, 10:09:07 AM
Leaguers had a good win against Ballymachugh last night winning by 5 points. Seem to be coming back into a bit of form at the right time.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on August 18, 2008, 08:49:28 AM
Most games were wash outs

Killdallon beat Mountnugent in the JFC 1-13 to 1-11 i think it was.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Babe Ruth 47 on August 18, 2008, 11:02:38 PM
Yeh very dissapointing weekend with the weather. The only game I managed to see was the above metioned between Kiloldallon and Mountnugent. Actually quite an enjoyable game and the rain held off for the most part. For the last 10 solid minutes Killdallon counldnt string 2 passes together and when Mountnugent moved their no.9 to the edge of the square they picked of 4/5 points in a row, 3 of which, with a little more composure could/should have been goal chances. Ohter than that outing it was a weekend in frontof the Gaa on the box.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on August 20, 2008, 10:39:33 AM
So any word on who the clubs have put forward for the managers job? I'm hearing nothing on that front at all.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on August 20, 2008, 10:42:22 AM
Just check Hoganstand and these are the names that the clubs have come up with...

Former Fermanagh boss Dominic Corrigan
ex-Antrim manager Jody Gormley
Terry Hyland
Tony Brady
Stephen King

Also, they claim that the CB have Glenn Ryan, Kildares U21 manager, on their shortlist (as have Laois apparently)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on August 20, 2008, 01:58:30 PM
Was talking to some of the lads at home there and they were telling me about 17 year old Patrick Kings performance for Killeshandra against B'McHugh. Patrick is a nephew of Stephen and son of Philip (King Communications). He is 6'3 i'd say. He normally plays FF for leaguers this year but moved to midfield against BMcchugh where he scored 5 points from play. He was on the minor panel last year but left cos he wasn't getting a game but he is minor next year too. Seriously nice lad too and very down to earth. I think he could be a real star in the future if he is minded well.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Mr. Pain on August 20, 2008, 02:29:31 PM
Settle Myles!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on August 20, 2008, 02:51:07 PM
Quote from: Mr. Pain on August 20, 2008, 02:29:31 PM
Settle Myles!

eh?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on August 20, 2008, 03:11:57 PM
The ideal man for the managers job would be someone from the back room staff or ex-player from either Tyrone or Armagh.  I know we had Grimley from Armagh but he was second in command. 

Any thoughts?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Hollow Man on August 20, 2008, 03:36:58 PM
Do you think Grimley was second in command?

I agree that we need someone who has a proven track record, will take no shit, possibly from one of the successful Northern counties. How about Damian Cassidy?

Wait a second... The more you think about it, the county board should hang their heads in shame at appointing Keogan.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on August 20, 2008, 03:52:12 PM
Agree with Hollowman. Discipline has to be the No 1 item on the list. I think we also need a real motivator, someone who can inspire some of the players and convince them that they are good enough. I think the person really needs to have a good track record so that no one can be in doubt that he knows what he is doing. I don't believe anyone on that list really fits the bill....
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on August 20, 2008, 04:58:36 PM
Glen Ryan supposedly on the short list for both Laois and Cavan Jobs.. According to Northern Sound.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on August 20, 2008, 07:33:50 PM
Why no mention of Pillar Caffrey? Isn't his mother one of Duignans from Cornafean and some relation of the Bradys of the garage. He may want a while away but I think he's as good a choice as there's out there who might actually want the job. Was at the Killeshandra match Myles and the Leaguers badly need their two men back from the States, which I believe is imminent. A late goal flattered them against a 14 man Ballymachugh.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on August 20, 2008, 09:40:33 PM
New boss? Think Ryan made a good impression with Kildare Under 21's all right, but we, as they say are a different kettle of fish. Would be worth looking at no doubt.

Over the past few years a few people have made the move straight into management and made a go of it and were well known to have a point to prove to people within their own county-McHugh and McGeeney spring to mind. There might be a few recently retired sorts up Tyrone way anxious to put their money where their mouth is, a gamble but beggars can't be choosers. Cassidys name comes up every so often on this thread, what was his role during McIlkennons last year?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on August 21, 2008, 08:37:52 AM
Quote from: anglocelt39 on August 20, 2008, 09:40:33 PM
New boss? Think Ryan made a good impression with Kildare Under 21's all right, but we, as they say are a different kettle of fish. Would be worth looking at no doubt.

Over the past few years a few people have made the move straight into management and made a go of it and were well known to have a point to prove to people within their own county-McHugh and McGeeney spring to mind. There might be a few recently retired sorts up Tyrone way anxious to put their money where their mouth is, a gamble but beggars can't be choosers. Cassidys name comes up every so often on this thread, what was his role during McIlkennons last year?

I think Cassidy will have had enough of dealing with Cavan CB after the way he was treated when Keoghan got the job. Also, going for cassidy would mean the people on the county board would be admitting they got it wrong when they appointed Keoghan over him - I doubt that will happen.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on August 21, 2008, 06:21:57 PM
Gormley and Corrigan interested in Cavan job
Antrim manager Jody Gormley
21 August 2008

Former Antrim manager Jody Gormley along with ex-Sligo and Fermanagh boss Dominic Corrigan are among the five candidates who have applied to take over the reigns in Cavan.

The Breffni County board have asked SportsTracker, a Dundalk based firm headed by former GAA President Peter Quinn, to assist them with the appointment of a replacement from the recently resigned Donal Keoghan. Interested candidates could apply via the company's website and five individuals have put their names forward, the Cavan county board have confirmed.

Gormley along with Corrigan as well as Meath man Sean Kelly have all signalled their interest in the job.

Gormley led Antrim to success in this year's Tommy Murphy Cup and had improved the fortunes of the Saffron's prior to his decision to stand down last month.

Dominic Corrigan has been out of the intercounty scene since he stood down as Sligo manager early during the 2006 NFL campaign. Prior to that he had a successful spell as Fermanagh manager, leading them to the All-Ireland quarter-final in 2003.

Kelly also has his name in the hat for the Meath job but it now appears that Eamon O'Brien is the favoured candidate there. Kelly is a former underage selector with Meath and played under Sean Boylan for the county.

Two local men, Castlerahan's Tony Brady and Lacken's Terry Brady have also applied, but at this stage the odds are on an outside candidate being appointed.

Clubs in the county can still nominate individuals with SportsTracker then interviewing the best qualified candidates before recommending their choice to the Cavan county board.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on August 22, 2008, 03:56:46 PM
not very optimistic over either to be honest,
Corrigan done well with Fermanagh getting them to an All Ireland Quarter before being annihilated by Tyrone.
He flopped with Sligo. Hes probably the best of a bad lot.

Gormley didnt win a championship game with Antrim in his 3 years there,With the talk of the goings on in the Antrim camp during his time there aswell,He doesnt seem much of a man for discipline either,All he has to show is a Tommy Murphy Cup win.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on August 22, 2008, 04:28:57 PM
Hopefully going to the Ramor v Lacken game at the weekend.  Saw Lacken against Belturbet and the played what was in front of them.  So don't know what they will be like if it is put upto them.

Who should I look out for and what position will they be playing.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on August 23, 2008, 07:37:16 PM
Oh never mind.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on August 23, 2008, 09:16:55 PM
Great win this evening Hollow.Ramor 0-15 Lacken 0-9.Have to say young Ado Cole was the best footballer on show.A fine prospect.Ramor played the more direct football and had the better balanced team.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on August 25, 2008, 09:07:06 AM
Quote from: Lawrence of Knockbride on August 20, 2008, 07:33:50 PM
Why no mention of Pillar Caffrey? Isn't his mother one of Duignans from Cornafean and some relation of the Bradys of the garage. He may want a while away but I think he's as good a choice as there's out there who might actually want the job. Was at the Killeshandra match Myles and the Leaguers badly need their two men back from the States, which I believe is imminent. A late goal flattered them against a 14 man Ballymachugh.

I am hearing a lot of rumour about Caffrey. What would he be like I wonder. He certainly is a bigish name in GAA circles now and might be as close to the like of Big name that we can hope for.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on August 25, 2008, 03:08:42 PM
Paul Caffrey has Cavan blood coarsing through his veins.His mother is from Cornafen and his father was from Mullahoran.I severley doubt if that would b enough to tempt him into going for the Cavan job.He seems like a very honest decent man,would probably b very good with the players especially the younger ones.He would b a high enough profile name to bring a bit of a buzz about the scene but whether he'd have the full backing of the clubs I dont know.
Cootehill had a fine win against Killinkere last nite-2-14 to 0-9.Colm Smith while very selfish kicked some great scores.
Castlerahan bet Ballinagh easy enough I believe 0-12 to 0-6.Mackey and Mulvey causing alot of problems.
That leaves Ramor V Castlerahan in the Senior Qualifier and Cootehill V Killeshandra in the Intermediate Qualifier
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Hollow Man on August 25, 2008, 11:04:10 PM
Cheers Boojangles

We're going very well at the right time, Ado in particular is flying as you say.

Bring on Castlerahan...
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Babe Ruth 47 on August 26, 2008, 10:27:42 AM
It has been a very frustrating year for Cavan football. We have arguably as good as, if not better footballers than Monaghan, Down, Kildare, Fermannagh and Wexford yet we remain in the abyss having only managed to beat Antrim. Hopefully now we can get a decent man, both a leader and a disciplinarian.

Personally, I don't feel Pillar Caffrey is the man for the job. He has achieved very little with Dublin that any other manager wouldn't have achieved. Four Lenister titles against poor opposition, and championship defeats against any team of note that they have come up against in Championship isn't a great. He has the Dubs in great shape physically but when it came to the crunch he offered very little tactically or otherwise. I do admire the intensity he has them working at though.

Throughout his reign Dublin have also been prone to loosing convincing leads in matches - Tyrone '05, Mayo'06 etc. This unfortunately has also become a trait of Cavan and I feel we need a manager who has the know how, to have a team mentally strong enough to be able to finish a game off. He also seemed to have a discipline problem in his early days with Dublin, although it seems he has rectified this. Declan Bonner usually being the main culprit but McKeever, Pierson etc would give Bonner a run for his money.

Corrigan on the other hand while not being perfect, I feel, is a better option. It seemed he was in 'no win' situation in Sligo without the support of the county board from the outset, so it might be harsh to judge him on this. With Fermanagh he got a fairly standard team to an All Ireland Quarter Final. In Cavan we most definitely have better footballers than Fermnnagh both then and now. At this point in time we would be extremely content with a place in the Quarter finals. With that Fermanagh team Corrigan also laid  the foundations for Charlie Mulgrew's Semi Final run in '04.

Corrigan has a good record at Ulster Club football. He won the Tyrone title in his first term with Carrickmore and was unlucky not to repeat the feat in his second term. He would have a good knowledge of Cavan club football too, having been over Killygarry for a year or so. I know lads from both Carrickmore and Killygarry and all hold him in very high regard.

Another good option would be the aforementioned Charlie Mulgrew but he is probably holding out for the Donegal job. I feel Letrim have made a very shrewd move in appointing Moran and Morrison. They have a great pedigree.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on August 26, 2008, 10:33:27 AM
Paddy Crozier is also available now, Talk of Cassidy getting the Derry job.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on August 26, 2008, 11:16:55 AM
Castlerahen fully deserved there win on Sunday as once again Ballinagh failed to get out of the blocks. I was another very poor game for the neutral with both sides showing very poor precision in front of the posts. The 'rahen dominated the breaks throughout the game and I felt we got a few things wrong along the line. Mackey showed some brilliance in patches giving Derek Hatchett an awful roasting before Patrick Carroll moved over on him and coped a little better, Enda Mulvey also proved very troublesome up front and the full-back Barry Cusack didn't give Gaynor an inch. Not too many stand-out performances for Ballinagh, Damien McInerney probably being the pick of the lot, and handled Ronan Flanagan quite well.

Although much the better team on the day Castlerahen will ready need to improve if they are going to go any further. I can't see Ramor letting them away with it if they are as wasteful the next day.

With the seniors suspended from their last two league games the defeat brings the year to an end, a very disappointing campaign but at least we have Senior football to look forward to next year which is more than could be said a month ago.


As for the search for a new manager I'm really not filled with too much confidence by the short-list. I'd be very close to Babe Ruth's line of thinking (Good post btw). Pillar completely under-achieved with the Dubs and I wouldn't go near him. Crozier would fall into the same category for me. Corrigan is possibly the best of the bunch so far but I still wait in hope for more adept candidates.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on August 26, 2008, 01:24:56 PM
A little harsh on Caffrey lads I think. I agree that maybe he needed to play a slightly less orthodox game at times which he failed to do but he still got the Dubs to within a whisker of beating Kerry last year which would have been a great achievement giving the attacking style he deployed. He also kept that Dublin team together for his term which is something we could welcome. Maybe if Cavan were looking to a little further down the line I'd agree we need a manager with a plan b but if he could instill a the same fight  and workrate in us I'd have him. Or we could appoint King.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on August 26, 2008, 06:53:34 PM
Homer more or less said it for me, that shortlist would want to get a little longer as far as I'm concerned.

What worries me is that the names currently in the shakeup are just that - names. Just tossed in there because they've been about or are easily recognisable, some of them not even that. Where is the evidence that a man with the necessary skills, particular to the unique challenge in Cavan, is being actively analysed and headhunted for the role. Because anything less than that and we are just throwing rice through a keyhole and hoping some of it gets through.

Anyway, don't want to say too much as it's obviously early days but I'd hope for more considered candidates than what's there for the time being.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on August 27, 2008, 03:48:00 PM
Quote from: Homer on August 26, 2008, 11:16:55 AM
Damien McInerney probably being the pick of the lot, and handled Ronan Flanagan quite well.


Am I the only person who thinks Damien McInerney has to get a long overdue call up to the County Seniors.I know he is not the tallest but the lad rarely seems to have a bad game.I have played with and against him and he is one of the most fiercely competitive footballers I know.IMO he should have been called into the Seniors after 2005 when we were beaten in the U-21 Ulster final.If he had been called in then he would be an established Inter-County footballer now.I know Podge Reilly and Anthony Gaynor have done it at the highest level(because they got the chance) but I really feel Damien is every bit a good a footballer as these 2.Homer what do you think?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on August 27, 2008, 04:50:21 PM
Quote from: boojangles on August 27, 2008, 03:48:00 PM
Quote from: Homer on August 26, 2008, 11:16:55 AM
Damien McInerney probably being the pick of the lot, and handled Ronan Flanagan quite well.


Am I the only person who thinks Damien McInerney has to get a long overdue call up to the County Seniors.I know he is not the tallest but the lad rarely seems to have a bad game.I have played with and against him and he is one of the most fiercely competitive footballers I know.IMO he should have been called into the Seniors after 2005 when we were beaten in the U-21 Ulster final.If he had been called in then he would be an established Inter-County footballer now.I know Podge Reilly and Anthony Gaynor have done it at the highest level(because they got the chance) but I really feel Damien is every bit a good a footballer as these 2.Homer what do you think?

Was he not asked in and wouldn't do it?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Hollow Man on August 27, 2008, 07:03:01 PM
Damien McInerny?

You must be joking. We have far too many small handy players there as it is.

He is no better than, say, Martin Cahill, Keith Fannin, Ronan Flanagan, Barry Watters, Michael Brides etc in my opinion. In fact, he isn't as good as the first three I named.

Nothing against him, he is a good player, but Cavan need to be looking for big fellas at this stage.

A good big one, as they say, is better than a good small one.

How about this for a team

James Reilly

Hannon
Rabbitt
Sheridan


McKeever
Podge O'Reilly
Gunner

Walsh
Paddy Brady (?)

Sean Brady
John Tierney
Flanagan

Johnston
McCabe
Sean Maguire (third midfielder)

Just throwing it out there. A predominantly young, mobile and more importantly physically strong team.

Forget Pierson, Gaynor etc. Get a panel who want to play and are willing to put in the effort. I dn't know what the story is with Paddy Brady or Sean Maguire, just threw them in there as good club footballers who have the size to offer something...



Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on August 28, 2008, 04:05:04 AM
Games i will be at this weekend

Saturday, 30th August 2008 @ 5.30pm
Hotel Kilmore Intermediate Championship Qualifier Final
Killeshandra v Cootehill
Venue: Annalee Park, Ballyhaise
Referee: Oliver O'Reilly
Linesmen: Harry Conaty & Phil Devine

Sunday, 31st August 2008 @ 1pm
Hotel Kilmore Senior Championship Quarter Final
Denn v Cuchullains
Venue: Kingspan Breffni Park
Referee: Mickey Lee
Linesmen: Paddy Carroll & Brian Seagrave

Sunday, 31st August 2008 @ 6.30pm
Hotel Kilmore Intermediate Championship Quarter Final
Drumlane v Drumgoon
Venue: Kingspan Breffni Park
Referee: Packie Smith
Linesmen: Ollie Henry & Jim Giblin

looking forward to see Cuchullains whom ive been so impressed with this year.id expecgt them to beat Denn,


We meet the winners of Cootehill and Leaguers,should be a good game Saturday, I think Cootehill might pip a young and somewhat inexperienced but very talented Killeshandra team.

Drumgoon by at least 5 on Sunday evening.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on August 28, 2008, 09:14:01 AM
BHM - let me know what you think of leaguers v Cootehill next week. I'm away this weekend and won't be able to attend. Cheers.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: CC1 on August 28, 2008, 11:05:58 AM
Big game for us this weekend against Arva. Hopefully we'll be able to put last years terrible performance behind us and come out with a win. We have the players, the main thing is that we perform on the day against what will be a physical Arva side confident of victory.

Drung vs the Muchies will be an interesting one. Drung are very very strong and they have some reasonable strength in depth which I reckon will be too much for the Munchies who do rely on a few of their players. I think it will be a tight one, the Munchies on their day are no push overs, Drung should have enough though.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on August 28, 2008, 01:40:50 PM
Quote from: Hollow Man on August 27, 2008, 07:03:01 PM
Damien McInerny?

You must be joking. We have far too many small handy players there as it is.

He is no better than, say, Martin Cahill, Keith Fannin, Ronan Flanagan, Barry Watters, Michael Brides etc in my opinion. In fact, he isn't as good as the first three I named.

Nothing against him, he is a good player, but Cavan need to be looking for big fellas at this stage.

A good big one, as they say, is better than a good small one.

How about this for a team

James Reilly

Hannon
Rabbitt
Sheridan


McKeever
Podge O'Reilly
Gunner

Walsh
Paddy Brady (?)

Sean Brady
John Tierney
Flanagan

Johnston
McCabe
Sean Maguire (third midfielder)

Just throwing it out there. A predominantly young, mobile and more importantly physically strong team.

Forget Pierson, Gaynor etc. Get a panel who want to play and are willing to put in the effort. I dn't know what the story is with Paddy Brady or Sean Maguire, just threw them in there as good club footballers who have the size to offer something...




Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on August 28, 2008, 01:58:31 PM
Whoops forgot to reply,No Hollow Im not joking, you have named at least 4 players who have played with Cavan for at least 4 Years,have got umpteen chances and still never proved it.Sean Maguire lets b honest,good footballer and lovely fella but even he has realised at this stage that he isnt a County footballer.Paddy Brady is too fecked with injuries and to b honest I dont think he wants to play with Cavan full stop.John Tierney-A great shame and all  because he could have been the best but ya must b joking.He had numerous chances to get himself into shape and didnt.Thats it.Sean Brady has been on the Cavan Seniors since 2003 and he still hasnt nailed down a place or put 2 or 3 good games in a row together.How many chances are players like this gonna get?Nicholas Walsh while hard done by this year could b put in the same boat.I hope Im wrong but I dont think we'l ever see the best of this fella.
You can laugh at me all you want but give me Damien McInerney any day ahead of Dermot Sheridan in the corner.Damien McInerney is faster,more comfortable on the ball,is a better passer,can take a score better,and is every bit as strong.If being bigger compensates for all that Hollow Man than You and Me have totally different opinions on the game.Watch Dermot Sheridan against Cavan Gaels and see how many times he gives the ball away,or is done for pace or caught in possesion.
I also see no mention of the best young talent in the County on your team-Ray Cullivan.Any Cavan team without that man on it is a mistake.FACT.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on August 28, 2008, 02:53:14 PM
Potential Managers List. That seems to be everyone I can think of,


Paul Grimley
Damian Cassidy
Paul Caffrey
Tommy Brehony
Jack O Connor
Joe Kiernan - Won't manage anyone other than Armagh until his sons are done playing
Charlier Mulgrew
Pat Roe
Luke Dempsey
Paidi O Se
John Maughan
Colm Coyle
Sean Boylan
Dominic Corrigan
Tommy Carr
James McCartan
Pete McGrath
Teddy Holland
Billy Morgan - surely too far away unless he'd move
Jody Gormley
Terry Hyland
Tony Brady
Stephen King
Glenn Ryan
Dessie Dolan
Bernard Morris

Any stand out options there.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Hollow Man on August 28, 2008, 03:58:17 PM
I just threw that team out there for discussion, totally forgot Cullivan - would have him as first choice midfielder.

Quoteand is every bit as strong

Come now, Boojangles. A 5 ft 6 (max), not particlularly stocky fella is 'every bit as strong' as a six foot lad whose a bit of a tank?

As for Myles. I had a very quick glance at your list and the first name I saw was Billy Morgan. I stopped reading then.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on August 28, 2008, 04:09:05 PM
Quote from: CC1 on August 28, 2008, 11:05:58 AM
Big game for us this weekend against Arva. Hopefully we'll be able to put last years terrible performance behind us and come out with a win. We have the players, the main thing is that we perform on the day against what will be a physical Arva side confident of victory.

Drung vs the Muchies will be an interesting one. Drung are very very strong and they have some reasonable strength in depth which I reckon will be too much for the Munchies who do rely on a few of their players. I think it will be a tight one, the Munchies on their day are no push overs, Drung should have enough though.

Im not looking forward to this. Drung have been poor enough all year apart from a couple of games.  Have a habit of starting well and going 3-4 points up and then letting in soft goals.  If the game turns into a battle id be afraid of who would want it more.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on August 28, 2008, 04:18:51 PM
Quote from: Hollow Man on August 28, 2008, 03:58:17 PM
I just threw that team out there for discussion, totally forgot Cullivan - would have him as first choice midfielder.

Quoteand is every bit as strong

Come now, Boojangles. A 5 ft 6 (max), not particlularly stocky fella is 'every bit as strong' as a six foot lad whose a bit of a tank?

As for Myles. I had a very quick glance at your list and the first name I saw was Billy Morgan. I stopped reading then.

A while back I started a thread asking what managers were available for work. Those are the names that came up on that thread. But you know I just threw it out there for discussion, totally forgot you had a problem with Billy Morgan.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on August 28, 2008, 04:46:24 PM
How tall was Oige Moran with 8 All Ireland medals?  If you are good enough, you'll adapt.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on August 28, 2008, 05:14:08 PM
Quote from: Denn Forever on August 28, 2008, 04:46:24 PM
How tall was Oige Moran with 8 All Ireland medals?  If you are good enough, you'll adapt.


Totally agree Denn Forever.Peter Canavan didnt let something like height get in the way of him being the best footballer of his generation. Hollow You obviously dont know McInerney very well.If you ran into him you'd know all about it.He's actually 5 ft 8.
Just because Dermot runs with his shoulders out like an American footballer and wears tight shorts doesnt make him Trevor Crowe.
You didnt comment on the rest of my points about Damiens strengths?Are you saying all them attributes in a footballer should b overlooked because he isnt 6ft and a bit of a Tank?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on August 28, 2008, 09:06:38 PM
Couldn't agree more with Hollow Man's assessment that there's a serious lack of big, strong. mobile guys with footbally ability who are currently donning the county jersey. Also agree with Boojangles assessment of the team that HM threw out for discussion. there's a good few lads in there who were marquee names playing Manning Cup football 8/10 years ago. They certainly got their chance at senior level but whether it was injury, loss of interest, work, women, drink or whatever they haven't made the transition to senior level in any consistent fashion and I suppose you'd wonder if they are likely to now. In fairness, if you lads are involved in the game up there and there were any standout players with a bit of size/ability/attitude etc. you'd know who they were.

We were all having a moan about this a few months back and somebody. CC1 put it pretty much in context, along the lilnes of, those players aren't there at the moment.

Pity, 2 or 3 could make a huge difference.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on August 28, 2008, 09:47:51 PM
John Tierney is going back to study in England so hes ruled out anyway

Paddy Brady has barely played for Gowna in the last 2 years.

Sean Maguire, well the jury is still out on him,He was very good for the county Juniors alongside Crowe at midfield against Dublin.
But he hasnt impressed in his few chances before.

Darren Rabbite, im afraid we can forget about him,He hasnt played for the county in about 3 years.

The Problem we have as you lads have said is the most talented "Big Players" we have produced over the last 5-8 years at underage level

Paddy Brady
Sean Maguire
Nicholas Walsh
Darryl McConnell
John Tierney
Colm Hannon
Shane Cole
and indeed Sean Brady
Havent broken through and formed a backbone of the team through whatever reason.

So we are left using and looking at Bigger Players who may not have the necessary skills but have the Physique.

Also the McInerney debate
Damien McInerney is as good a Man Marker as is in the county,
Ive played against Both himself and Dermot Sheridan and i have to agree with Boojangles,McInerney is a better all round footballer.
His Height on an already too small of a team is the sticking point.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on August 29, 2008, 01:59:05 AM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on August 28, 2008, 09:47:51 PM

The Problem we have as you lads have said is the most talented "Big Players" we have produced over the last 5-8 years at underage level

Paddy Brady
Sean Maguire
Nicholas Walsh
Darryl McConnell
John Tierney
Colm Hannon
Shane Cole
and indeed Sean Brady
Havent broken through and formed a backbone of the team through whatever reason.

So we are left using and looking at Bigger Players who may not have the necessary skills but have the Physique.

Excellent point BH Man,all them lads had as much talent at underage level as any lads in Ulster.Mite I also add in a blast from the past one Ritchie Graham from the Gaels.Never really played after Minor 2000.Same year as Daryl McConnell and Pierson.Robbed by Derry with last minute goal in Breifne Park.He was a serious talent who got Man of the Match in the final of the Ulster Club Minor Final which the Gaels won in StPauls in 2000.No interest once the social life became a factor.
Anyway lads thats enuf of the auld GAA until Monday for me.Its off to Electric Picnic for me in the morn.My 1st proper free weekend since June so Im gonna enjoy it.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on August 29, 2008, 10:18:57 AM
Quote from: boojangles on August 29, 2008, 01:59:05 AM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on August 28, 2008, 09:47:51 PM

The Problem we have as you lads have said is the most talented "Big Players" we have produced over the last 5-8 years at underage level

Paddy Brady
Sean Maguire
Nicholas Walsh
Darryl McConnell
John Tierney
Colm Hannon
Shane Cole
and indeed Sean Brady
Havent broken through and formed a backbone of the team through whatever reason.

So we are left using and looking at Bigger Players who may not have the necessary skills but have the Physique.

Excellent point BH Man,all them lads had as much talent at underage level as any lads in Ulster.Mite I also add in a blast from the past one Ritchie Graham from the Gaels.Never really played after Minor 2000.Same year as Daryl McConnell and Pierson.Robbed by Derry with last minute goal in Breifne Park.He was a serious talent who got Man of the Match in the final of the Ulster Club Minor Final which the Gaels won in StPauls in 2000.No interest once the social life became a factor.
Anyway lads thats enuf of the auld GAA until Monday for me.Its off to Electric Picnic for me in the morn.My 1st proper free weekend since June so Im gonna enjoy it.

Watch out for Mulvey doing stage dives at electric picnic :D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Hollow Man on August 29, 2008, 04:57:52 PM
QuoteJust because Dermot runs with his shoulders out like an American footballer and wears tight shorts doesnt make him Trevor Crowe

Some questions about this setence:

1) How does an American footballer run?
2) Why are you concerned with how tight his shorts are?
3) How would anyone think that wearing a particular style of shorts and having an odd way of running 'makes' you a footballer from Lacken?
4) What other players have nice shorts?

Thanks.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Mr. Pain on August 29, 2008, 05:18:25 PM
Excellent 8)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tierworker blue on August 29, 2008, 05:48:22 PM
the jungle drums have been pounding, and i've heard from a decent source today that pillar caffrey has the cavan job if he wants it. i know his name was mentioned some time back, and that his folks are from cavan etc etc, but i paid little heed back then. i can't see him taking it, assuming that he might take some time away from inter county management, but now im getting curious.
any thoughts...?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on August 29, 2008, 07:37:26 PM
He'd have high standards of preparation, would carry a bit of weight in the dressing room, would be thick and ignorant enough to take no shit from our band of Spice Boys and mightn'd be a bad option despite the fact that he failed/his players failed in the big tests of the last few years, most notably against Mayo and recently against Tyrone both of whom were very beatable.

That said, Cavan's next manager shouldn't really be tasked with winning anything, we're fallen way back too far for that so now it's more about getting a solid structure in place and weeding out the bad eggs, bringing the young fellas on another bit and generally smartening up our act. In that respect, I think we could do worse than Pilar for two years. A big question would have to be his appetite and hunger after so many years with the Dubs, and whether his heart would be in it despite the Cavan links.

Plus the rumours might all be bullshit as well, you never know with these things.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on August 29, 2008, 09:02:06 PM
Caffrey might not be my no 1 choice but i think he is the best of what we can hope to get. I think he is a big enough name in GAA circles to command respect in the dressing room. He may have failed in his attempts to land sam for the dubs but he did win leinster titles and put a commited team on the pitch. It is easy to point out each candidates bad points but there is no super manager available that I can see. Based on this reality I'd give Caffrey a hesitant nod for the job at this stage. But is he mad enough to take it....
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on August 29, 2008, 10:08:15 PM
Ramor Und 1 16             Castlerahan 1  12

Breffni Park looked well under the floodlights.  But again I ask where is the clock?  Mullaghhoran and Beltubet have similar scoreboards and under them is an incorporated clock.  

Castlerahanstarted brightly and Mackey was the star of the show.  Ramor started as if they couldn't be bothered but the came good as the half wore on.  The fullforward line started to gain influence.  Went in Ramor 0  7  Castlerahan 0  8 I think.

In the second half, Ramor had most of the ball.  I was near the town goal and it became obvious that Castlerahan had a problem at midfield and the Ramor team quickly cottoned on to the Castlerahan kickouts.  Castlerahan scored the first goal and the comment from the Ramor supporter beside me was "Why could he be fouled before he scored the goal?"  Does this scenario sound familiar?

Ramor scored a peach of a goal, a pass from the right wing falling into the hands of the onrushing forward.

Some very good scoring from both sides.  But it was nowhere near the pace of intercouny football so I'll just enjoy it at for what it was.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Maximus Marillius on August 29, 2008, 11:21:15 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on August 29, 2008, 09:02:06 PM
Caffrey might not be my no 1 choice but i think he is the best of what we can hope to get. I think he is a big enough name in GAA circles to command respect in the dressing room. He may have failed in his attempts to land sam for the dubs but he did win leinster titles and put a commited team on the pitch. It is easy to point out each candidates bad points but there is no super manager available that I can see. Based on this reality I'd give Caffrey a hesitant nod for the job at this stage. But is he mad enough to take it....

Jez, myles very nice of you give Pillar a hesitant nod to take the second worst team in Ulster who have not had any underage county success in numerous years, no club within the past, god knows how many years has got an Ulster senior club final never mind win it. At this stage you should on your knees begging some one like Pillar to put his reputation on the line for your high fliers. f**k...your metality takes the biscuit. You must be on the wind up...with your hesitant nod.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on August 30, 2008, 12:13:12 AM
Aha, there's the Cavan football expert now with one of his timely and insightful interjections. Good man Max, sort it out there like a good chap, yer man myles is only a windup merchant from Derry that has practically no knowledge of football in the county, sure you couldn't be listening to him. ;D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Maximus Marillius on August 30, 2008, 01:14:36 AM
Quote from: cavanmaniac on August 30, 2008, 12:13:12 AM
Aha, there's the Cavan football expert now with one of his timely and insightful interjections. Good man Max, sort it out there like a good chap, yer man myles is only a windup merchant from Derry that has practically no knowledge of football in the county, sure you couldn't be listening to him. ;D

From reading what u lads are writing I'm making as much sense of it as the rest on this thread.

CM....its the arrogant 'hesitant nod' that got me going. I'm not going to sort it out...sure u cavan lads had the basis of a super set up 50 years ago and made a balls of a production line some 40 years ago......how did ye manage to f**k it up...what did kerry do at the time that u didn't?. It is not more a case of getting what will come yer way.

Any way on a more serious note paddy heaney in the Irish news was writing about how county boards get it more often than not wrong. Cavan was one exaple they used...ie Keogan. But his view was that Graham was the obious choice, had proven success at club management and had driiled the cavan minor team this year well to hold its own with the current Tyrone minor team. His arguement was cavan needed to go home grown.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tierworker blue on August 30, 2008, 05:24:06 PM
From 'Hogan Stand'...

O'Rourke tipped for Cavan post

Down's Paddy O'Rourke
30 August 2008


Former Down boss Paddy O'Rourke has emerged as a frontrunner in the race to become the new Cavan senior football manager.

O'Rourke, captain of the Mourne County's 1991 All-Ireland SFC winning team, managed his native county three years ago.



Now the former ace defender has apparently leaped into pole position for the vacant Cavan job for which the SportTracker company has been hired to fill.

What do y'all think?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on August 30, 2008, 05:37:59 PM
I'm only taking a hand at ya Max, but I do find your proclaimations on Cavan football a bit amusing. We might just know what we're talking about when we talk about Cavan football, you think?

I'd say, hypothetically, you'd have held the same opinions in the winter of 1994 when we hadn't won an Ulster championship game for Lord knows how long, and if anyone here had suggested that a good managerial appointment could prompt an U21 All-Ireland final appearance, two Ulster final appearances and a win in one of them, I think you'd have been accusing us of being on the wind up with delusions of grandeur then as well.

We know our place for now, but we also know where we could be with the right decisions taken. Observers from the outside such as yourself only judge on the bottom line whereas we are privy to what's above it. Sure hopefully we'll emerge from the undergrowth again in a few years, who knows?

* As for Paddy O'Rourke, I'd avoid, he didn't exactly cover himself in glory when he had the Down job and he definitely does not seem to be the man to sort out the dressing room mess in Cavan.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Uladh on August 30, 2008, 05:38:42 PM

I think his mate Pete must be having a laugh!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on August 31, 2008, 02:16:29 PM
Max, welcome back. Nice to have a genuine windup merchant on board rather than some of our home grown talent that borders between windup and unhinged by times. Anyway. Would actually agree with you sometimes that we need to get a grip of ourselves, although your imagery might be a bit ott by times. Why the heck should Cavan GAA people, or Myles for that matter, not be hesitant in giving the nod to a high profile external manager. That's the way of the GAA these days Max. Longford, Leitrim, Roscommon, Westmeath, Wicklow, Louth etc. etc have followed the relatively high profile external appointment route in the recent past. So no need for us lot to fall over ourselves at the first "name" that might show a bit of interest.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on August 31, 2008, 02:28:43 PM
Some questions about this setence:


Now Hollow Man, if anybody else on the board penned the above I could probably use my imagination. On the other hand a poster of your impeccable status who is willing to show his on going committment to all elements of correctness as regards facts, opinions, grammar and spelling, particularly where the latter relates to the names of daytime TV Hosts surely must have some meaning intended in the above that leaves the rest of us floundering. I've parsed and analysed the hell out of it and am stumped. Perhaps you can clarify your question before Boojangles gets back from pogoing to Johnny Lydon and the boys down at Stradbally. On second thoughts no ,forget it, haven't Ramor gone on a fairly impressive run in the championship seeing off Castlerahan in the wake of Gowna and Lacken. Sure maybe you might give us a bit of an update of some sort instead, you know, who played well, any emerging prospects, can Ramor go further etc. etc. Refer posts of Homer, Boojangles, Ballyhaise Man and you'll get an idea of what I mean. Only if it's no trouble now, mind.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on August 31, 2008, 08:31:38 PM
Quote from: Maximus Marillius on August 30, 2008, 01:14:36 AM
Quote from: cavanmaniac on August 30, 2008, 12:13:12 AM
Aha, there's the Cavan football expert now with one of his timely and insightful interjections. Good man Max, sort it out there like a good chap, yer man myles is only a windup merchant from Derry that has practically no knowledge of football in the county, sure you couldn't be listening to him. ;D

From reading what u lads are writing I'm making as much sense of it as the rest on this thread.

CM....its the arrogant 'hesitant nod' that got me going. I'm not going to sort it out...sure u cavan lads had the basis of a super set up 50 years ago and made a balls of a production line some 40 years ago......how did ye manage to f**k it up...what did kerry do at the time that u didn't?. It is not more a case of getting what will come yer way.

Any way on a more serious note paddy heaney in the Irish news was writing about how county boards get it more often than not wrong. Cavan was one exaple they used...ie Keogan. But his view was that Graham was the obious choice, had proven success at club management and had driiled the cavan minor team this year well to hold its own with the current Tyrone minor team. His arguement was cavan needed to go home grown.

Max max max, what is your problem. Is derry not the county that does most whinging about their manager than any other. I was commenting on Caffreys suitabiliy for the job. Some here think he couldn't do it with Dublin so he'd struggle to improve Cavan (which is what we are looking for) I think that is a valid point but I also think that his big name in the GAA will command respect in the dressing room. Hence the hesitant nod. Paddy Heaney is only half right about Graham. He has done very well as a manager but he needs some more time before stepping up to the senior job, sure he played with many of the lads on the current team. I'd like him to stay at minor for another 2 years and achieve something there 1st. There is no suitable home grown manager for the job.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on September 01, 2008, 12:16:14 PM
Denn 0 11  Cuchullains  0.07

We won after having a really good first 15-20 minutes.  Every attempt went over the bar.  Hubert Smith was playing really well at full forward but our performance really dipped when for some reason he went out the field.  Didn't see why we had a player sent off.  It was at the other end of the field and was after the referee consulted the umpires.

Was expecting Cuchulains to tear into us in the second half but fortunately it didn't happen.

It was a disappointing game to watch if you were a neutral.  Did Cuchulains really beat Ramor?  There were no standout players over the sixty minutes.  Martin Cahill had an effective game, did what he had to.  Was looking forward to seeing how Ciaran Mc Govern would do at full back but Cuchullains played with only two players  in the fullforward line.  

Denn also did the running down the clock thing at the end, passing the ball all over the pitch.  Our half forward got the ball and there was acres of space in front of him but he immediately turned back towards our goal and passed it back.

It seems to be a fairly recent thing but I hate it.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on September 02, 2008, 04:47:33 PM
Quote from: Hollow Man on August 29, 2008, 04:57:52 PM
QuoteJust because Dermot runs with his shoulders out like an American footballer and wears tight shorts doesnt make him Trevor Crowe

Some questions about this setence:

1) How does an American footballer run?
2) Why are you concerned with how tight his shorts are?
3) How would anyone think that wearing a particular style of shorts and having an odd way of running 'makes' you a footballer from Lacken?
4) What other players have nice shorts?

Thanks.
Good Man Hollow,You have nothing good to add to the argument or anything to back up your argument so you turn it into a farce and turn it away from an argument about football.But at least you impressed Mr Pain.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: JMohan on September 02, 2008, 07:33:45 PM
Is it looking now like only King and Corrigan are in for the job?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on September 02, 2008, 10:37:01 PM
The sky is darkening and I feel a shiver down my spine..................


New Cavan boss to be known by next week
02 September 2008

The Cavan County Board is hoping to know who will lead the county's senior team into the 2009 season in the "next seven to ten days".

Interviews to find the man who will take over from Donal Keogan have commenced today (Tuesday) and County Board chairman Philip Smith is hopeful that the Denn man's successor will be known by next week.

Smith told the Cavan Post: "Hopefully inside the next seven to ten days we will be in a position to appoint a new manager.

"There are between eight to ten candidates for the role, and they're all within a 50 mile radius of Cavan," added Smith.

The chairman also added that recruitment company Sportstracker would be lending a hand during the week-long interview process, indicating whom they feel is the best person for the job.

"They (Sportstracker) will be aiding and assisting us in the interview process and recommending who they feel is the best candidate to do the job."

The fact that Smith has stated that all the candidates, voted for by clubs within the Breffni County, are within a 50 mile radius of Cavan fuels speculation that the likes of ex-Fermanagh boss Dominic Corrigan and former player Stephen King are still among the front runners to take the position.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on September 03, 2008, 08:35:43 AM
It's from Hoganstand website and includes direct quotes but I suppose I cannot be certain.  So come on then, who's your source. Give me some hope.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on September 03, 2008, 09:02:43 AM
Yeh, no point sneaking in here looking for hints on what we have heard and then not letting us know what you have heard.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on September 03, 2008, 09:41:51 AM
Assuming Hoganstand is right, this is who I believe is available inside 50 miles of Cavan

Paul Grimley
Damian Cassidy
Paul Caffrey
Tommy Brehony
Jack O Connor
Joe Kiernan - Won't manage anyone other than Armagh until his sons are done playing
Charlie Mulgrew
Pat Roe
Luke Dempsey
Paidi O Se
John Maughan
Colm Coyle
Sean Boylan
Dominic Corrigan
Tommy Carr
James McCartan ?
Pete McGrath ?
Teddy Holland
Billy Morgan - surely too far away unless he'd move
Jody Gormley
Terry Hyland
Tony Brady
Stephen King
Glenn Ryan
Dessie Dolan
Bernard Morris

Some I am guessing on distance as I am not sure where they are based. Hard to get  too excited about that list.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on September 03, 2008, 10:43:17 AM
Quote from: Thastheball on September 03, 2008, 10:29:26 AM
Myles the hogan stand has been fed alot of bull. I can tell u that this man lives a bit away. Will he say yes to an interview...doubtfull...but thats my guess, I will find out his answer tomorrow.

Ah give us a hint - is he on my list
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cornafean on September 03, 2008, 11:17:05 AM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on September 03, 2008, 09:41:51 AM

Paul Grimley

Paul Caffrey

??

Armagh is within 50 miles of the county. As is Dublin, more or less.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Davitt Man on September 03, 2008, 11:22:06 AM
Junior C\Ship Saturday

Kildallon v Templeport

What way do people think this will go??
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: CC1 on September 03, 2008, 11:27:17 AM
Quote from: cornafean on September 03, 2008, 11:17:05 AM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on September 03, 2008, 09:41:51 AM

Paul Grimley

Paul Caffrey

??

Armagh is within 50 miles of the county. As is Dublin, more or less.
Yup... I'm less than 50 miles from Dublin and 18 Miles to Crossmaglen. They don't say exactly what part of Cavan the radius is from so I assume it is within a 50 mile radius of Co. Cavan.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: CC1 on September 03, 2008, 11:34:17 AM
Quote from: Davitt Man on September 03, 2008, 11:22:06 AM
Junior C\Ship Saturday

Kildallon v Templeport

What way do people think this will go??
Really hard to say, its usually a really tight game whenever two local rivals play each other and this game will be no different. It all depends on who has the hunger on the day. I think that Kildallon might have the edge as they have played a few games in the qualifiers where as Templeport have been waiting over a month since their first round match... A draw or Kildallon by a point for me.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on September 03, 2008, 12:03:57 PM
Quote from: cornafean on September 03, 2008, 11:17:05 AM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on September 03, 2008, 09:41:51 AM

Paul Grimley

Paul Caffrey

??

Armagh is within 50 miles of the county. As is Dublin, more or less.

Well I presumed they meant Cavan town which is 60 -70 miles from Dublin surely. Armagh is probably close to 50 miles alright. I better ring the county board and see is it as the crow flies, using only major roads or all in.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cornafean on September 03, 2008, 01:01:44 PM
Depends on what way you read it, alright. 50 miles from Cavan town effectively means someone from an immediately neighbouring county, ie Leitrim, Fermanagh, Monaghan, Meath, or Westmeath, and perhaps South Tyrone, parts of Armagh and Louth.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: CC1 on September 03, 2008, 01:04:16 PM
Remember, Philip Smith is from Kingscourt also so he might have it as 50 miles from his house...  ;D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on September 03, 2008, 01:04:34 PM
Denn 0 11  Cuchullains  0.07
No respect Denn Forever but I have to say I was shocked by this result.I know ya should never b shocked by Championship football but after playing both clubs this year I really felt that Cuchulainns could b ready to make the step into the Top 2/3 teams in the County.They seemed to have a very nice blend of experience in Terry Farrelly,Tommy the Bo,Martin Lynch,Barry Smith,Seamus Clarke etc mixed with some fine young talent coming along in Conor Smith,Eugene Keating,Adrian Taite.
Have to say that I was very impressed with Ramor when I seen them against Lacken.Im not sure how the Semi-Final draw goes if its decided already (mayb Hollow could fill me in) but I think Ramor could b heading for a County final which would b very good for football in the County I believe.Although seeing Kingscourt back in their 1st final since 99 wouldnt b at alll bad either.
But at the end of the day I still dont see any club taking the mantle of the Gaels just yet.
As regards all the talk about prospective Cavan managers,I really think its idle talk at the end of the day because no matter what any of us think We really have no say in it and its gonna come down to whoever Philip Smith and Co think is suitable.As has happened before I really wouldnt b that confident that they will find the right man to please most of us.I have come to accept that thats just the way things go in Cavan.Sad I know.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on September 03, 2008, 02:52:54 PM
I have the same uneasy feeling boojangles, I'm preparing myself for a massive sense of anticlimax when the time comes. Sure if you expect the worst, anything better will be a pleasant surprise. The names being bandied about do little for me though, I must say, particularly because they seem to have no recourse to what the specific problems are and who might be the right man to solve them. They're all just 'names' and a few clubs trying to get their own man in and stuff probably.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on September 03, 2008, 03:12:47 PM
But at the end of the day I still dont see any club taking the mantle of the Gaels just yet.

Hopefully Mullahoran will do the business against Cavan Gaels!

Haven't seen the Gaels in the flesh yet but having seen Mullahoran a few times, I don't think Cavan Gaels will have much problem.  The only hope is that the larger Breffni pitch will be more advantageous to Mullahoran than Cavan Gaels.  Looking forward to seeing Cavan Gaels in the flesh this sunday though.

I'll be cheering for Mullahoran and hopefully they can be a fly in the Ointment for CG.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on September 03, 2008, 03:39:32 PM
Quote from: CC1 on September 03, 2008, 01:04:16 PM
Remember, Philip Smith is from Kingscourt also so he might have it as 50 miles from his house...  ;D

I was hoping that it would be more than 50 miles from Kingscourt to Killeshandra but alas I checked it on the AA route planner and it is only 40 miles. Damn it. :)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cornafean on September 03, 2008, 04:31:42 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on September 03, 2008, 03:39:32 PM
I was hoping that it would be more than 50 miles from Kingscourt to Killeshandra but alas I checked it on the AA route planner and it is only 40 miles. Damn it. :)

So you're out of the running for the job, then? Not skilled enough at the expense claims ;)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on September 03, 2008, 07:15:43 PM
Just to note Cavanmaniac that Killeshandra didn't put King's name forward. He applied himself. Now his CV would be worth a look.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on September 03, 2008, 09:05:31 PM
Quote from: Lawrence of Knockbride on September 03, 2008, 07:15:43 PM
Just to note Cavanmaniac that Killeshandra didn't put King's name forward. He applied himself.

Holy Jasus, I don't know which is worse, a club trying to get their own man in or a guy without even the support of his club trying to get himself in. The whole world's in a terrible state of chassis...
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on September 04, 2008, 09:25:15 AM
The Plot thickens... I think he also qualifies under the 50 mile rule :D

Carr becomes latest Breffni candidate
03 September 2008


Former Dublin boss Tommy Carr has emerged as the latest candidate linked to take over the reins of the vacant Cavan manager's position.

According to a report in today's Irish Daily Star, Carr has become the leading contender to succeed Donal Keogan in the Breffni post after the Denn man stepped down from the manager's position in the days after his side's All-Ireland SFC exit to Kildare.

Carr has been away from the inter-county management scene since leaving the Roscommon job in 2005, but revealed a few weeks ago that he was looking to get back into managing at inter-county level.

"I am considering returning to inter-county management," said Carr.

"I suppose a lot of jobs are coming up but you have to ask yourself what jobs do you want to get involved with and what ones you don't?"

The ex-Dublin player now lives in Westmeath and has been linked with a number of vacant jobs in neighbouring counties, with Cavan now looking the most likely to appeal to him.

The interviewing process, conducted jointly by the Cavan County Board and recruitment company Sportstracker, began yesterday (Tuesday) and will continute throughout the rest of the week with a manager hoping to be in place by next week.

Carr joins the likes of ex- Antrim and Fermanagh managers Jody Gormley and Dominic Corrigan in the list of men to succeed Keogan, along with locals Stephen King, Terry Hyland and Tony Brady. In recent times former Down boss Paddy O'Rourke has emerged as a front-runner for the position too.


Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on September 04, 2008, 09:58:34 AM
Tommy Carr was, to me, one of the obvious candidates from early on if we're talking about needing a tough task master. Given the calibre of people mentioned thus far, I think we could do worse that slot him in for two years and let him put a solid disciplined structure in place which will hopefully remain for future mangers to work on. This appointment is effectively a stepping stone one for me, or at the very most, perhaps it'll result in an Ulster SFC challenge in the third year if the first two have been promising and his services are retained.

I mentioned him before and someone said he presided over disciplinary shambles in Roscommon but I think that was all under John Tobin and Tommy's appointment was the Roscommon CB's response to the nudie pool and all that nonsense. I don't think there were any PR disasters during his time at the helm, in fact Roscommon looked reasonably competitive. That's all from memory mind you, someone can put me right if I've got any of that wrong...
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on September 04, 2008, 10:22:44 AM
Carr joined Ros in 2002. In his first year he got them to all ireland quarter finals, 2nd year to Connaught Final and I believe the 3rd year was pretty bad for them. The players had a meeting and wanted him gone and the county board told him and so he resigned. I think the players got frustrated that frankie Dolan got the boot from the team for poor discipline - Carr was not going to take shite from him. You could be right that he might be the man to put a foundation in place but a lot of ros people were not too happy with his tactical approach to games. I think I'd prefer Caffrey to Carr but either wouldn't be a bad result for us, given some of the other names being bandied about. Any updates on your man thatstheball?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cornafean on September 04, 2008, 11:09:28 AM
I hope to God he doesn't bring Frankie with him :o
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Babe Ruth 47 on September 04, 2008, 11:30:30 AM
Quote from: Lawrence of Knockbride on September 03, 2008, 07:15:43 PM
Just to note Cavanmaniac that Killeshandra didn't put King's name forward. He applied himself. Now his CV would be worth a look.

Rumors have it that he didn't even send in his C.V., apparently he just sent them the link to his Bebo page ;)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on September 04, 2008, 11:32:16 AM
Quote from: cornafean on September 04, 2008, 11:09:28 AM
I hope to God he doesn't bring Frankie with him :o

Yeh, could you imagine naked pool in McSeain's.  :D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on September 04, 2008, 11:45:40 AM
I dunno lads, while Carr's reputation as a take-no-prisoners disciplinarian looks good on paper, but at the end of the day he never tasted any real success with Dublin or Ros.  :-\
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on September 04, 2008, 12:02:47 PM
I'd have reservations about nearly every potential manager linked with the job but we have to be realistic. This is Cavan, 2nd worst county in Ulster. No success in 11 years at any level. Discipline problems in the camp, players not willing to put in the work. This is not an appealing job for a lot of managers. I haven't heard a name yet that is jumping out of the page at me and thats why I am saying maybe Carr isn't too bad in comparison to the others. I'd prefer Caffrey but my ideal man would be Joe Kernan (who just won't do it). I don't see a trapatoni type appointment out there anywhere.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on September 04, 2008, 12:04:45 PM
True (@ Homer), but like I said I think this appointment is more about putting a solid base in place and stop the indisciplinary rot that's threatening to ruin whatever good young players we have - Tyrone came from behind on stroke of full-time to beat Cavan minors this year and they're in the final in a few weeks, remember. There's more to work with in Cavan than people realise I believe.

If we're thinking in terms of a manager who will come in and have us challenging right away I think we're being a wee bit previous and possibly overestimating ourselves. Given time, the next manager could eventually mould a team to challenge but what's absolutely vital is that he leaves a solid team and a work ethic behind him for the next guy to take us over, when hopefully we'll be a more attractive proposition to managers that we are right now.

As for the nudie pool in McSeains, I thought they did that there every Saturday night?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on September 04, 2008, 01:40:00 PM
I agree with what Myles & Cavanmaniac are saying. We pick the best of what's available and what we need is a long-termist manager with no ego and who will instill discipline. Sounds like Tom Carr. I know a couple of the Roscommon lads that worked with him and although they have a laugh at him as he was quite dour they say he was tough and got relatively good results. He was dealing with the greatest band of bastards you ever came across. Some of the stories out of that camp in the year Carr was there make the naked pool look very mild. I don't mean to go on about it but if in two years time after Stephen King's reign (excuse the pun) comes to a shambolic end and we all talk about how we still need a disciplinarian won't we just have wasted two years and some good footballers when we could make a simple and less risky appointment now?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cornafean on September 04, 2008, 02:24:19 PM
Quote from: cavanmaniac on September 04, 2008, 12:04:45 PM
As for the nudie pool in McSeains, I thought they did that there every Saturday night?

jaysus shut up willya, the next thing you know the Guards will be here  :o
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on September 04, 2008, 02:48:20 PM
so the list goes like

Dominic Corrigan
Paddy O Rourke
Stephen King
Tommy Carr

Has Jody Gormley officially dropped out of the race?

Corrigan for me.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on September 04, 2008, 08:07:40 PM
Heard from a reasonable source that the Reilly bloke from Dunsany is/was in the picture. Currently involved with Navan O Mahony's and was, I think, Involved with Kingscourt when they last got to a County Fnal (99??). Some story that Meath were courting him but he didn't want to hop straight in there. Where it's currently up to, who knows. Hear there may be some white smoke come Monday night.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on September 05, 2008, 06:54:15 PM
Big Weekend ahead lads, I wasnt too hot on the predictions last week so here it goes.

Hotel Kilmore Senior Championship Relegation Match
Belturbet v Knockbride
Venue: Kingspan Breffni Park

I Fancy Knockbride to win this, by 3
Belturbet have fallen badly from the great improvements of last year

Saturday, 06th September 2008 @ 6pm
Hotel Kilmore Intermediate Championship Quarter Final
Redhills v Bailieboro
Venue: Kingspan Breffni Park

Baileboro to spring a bit of a suprise for me by 2,

Ballyhaise v Cootehill (Game at 4.30pm)
Venue: St. Felim's Park, Drumalee

Will be a tough game,id hope the greater intensity of playing in division one will see us nick it by a few points,
B'Haise by 2

Saturday, 06th September 2008 @ 5.30pm
Hotel Kilmore Junior Championship Quarter Final
Kildallon v Templeport
Venue: O'Connell Park, Drumlane

Ronan Reily and Duignan wont do enough to stop an ever improving Templeport team for me,
Port by 5

Saturday, 06th September 2008 @ 7.30pm
Hotel Kilmore Senior Championship Quarter Final
Kingscourt v Ramor
Venue: Kingspan Breffni Park

Im going for a shock here, I think Kingscourt might catch an overconfident Ramor,who ive been most impressed with this year,
Meath men by 1 ;D

Sunday, 07th September 2008 @ 1pm
Hotel Kilmore Junior Championship Quarter Final
Shannon Gaels v Mountnugent
Venue: Kingspan Breffni Park

Mountnugent powered by very impressive David Gibney and Tomas Brady will win this by 3 for me
dont know about Eamon Reily's availability for Gaels,

Sunday, 07th September 2008 @ 7pm
Hotel Kilmore Senior Championship Quarter Final
Cavan Gaels v Mullahoran
Venue: Kingspan Breffni Park

The Big One
i just cant see how Mullahoran will have enough to beat the Gaels,
With Lyng out,Mullahoran will naturally key to Johnston, Even If somehow Dermot Sheridan and co can hold Jelly quiet,
Sean Higgins,Cormac Nelligan and co will still have enough firepower to put a big score up.Norbert Smith is a big loss in the Mullahoran backline
at the other end

You will see Chesty on Eddie Reily, as usual,
Chesty has always done a reasonable good job of keeping him quiet,
Unfortunately with Eddie More likely going to be contained,I dont see where the scores are going to come from.

Gaels by 7.

No doubt il probably make an utters balls of this like last week  :P
im
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on September 05, 2008, 11:15:00 PM
Game was called off tonight. Hope it wasn't because of the weather or we could have a wipe-out of all the games.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Hollow Man on September 06, 2008, 05:30:45 PM
Haven't been on in a few days...

Off to the game now, wish us luck, I'm not making any predictions... Feels great to be within 60 minutes of a county semi-final.

Word on the grapevine is that Tommy Carr has the job sewn up, personally I'm not sure how good an appointment he would be.

Boojangles, apologies for lowering the tone, it's just I disagreed on your opinion of Sheridan and thought your reasoning and references to tight shorts etc were open to ridicule; thus, I ridiculed them. How was Electric Picnic?

AngloCelt, will you please lay off the Hollow Man, we're all friends here.

PP, will Ballyhaise beat Cootehill?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on September 06, 2008, 08:25:58 PM
Quote from: Thastheball on September 06, 2008, 08:04:16 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on September 04, 2008, 10:22:44 AM
Carr joined Ros in 2002. In his first year he got them to all ireland quarter finals, 2nd year to Connaught Final and I believe the 3rd year was pretty bad for them. The players had a meeting and wanted him gone and the county board told him and so he resigned. I think the players got frustrated that frankie Dolan got the boot from the team for poor discipline - Carr was not going to take shite from him. You could be right that he might be the man to put a foundation in place but a lot of ros people were not too happy with his tactical approach to games. I think I'd prefer Caffrey to Carr but either wouldn't be a bad result for us, given some of the other names being bandied about. Any updates on your man thatstheball?

I can confirm that Damian Cassidy was approached to attend interview. His name was put to the county board by the players. Unsurprisingly he turned the offer to attend down.

Not really suprised by that either after the shafting he got the last time. Interesting that the players thought highly of him.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on September 06, 2008, 08:37:28 PM
AngloCelt, will you please lay off the Hollow Man, we're all friends here


arrah sure no bother hollow man, just that your way of showing your, ahem, friendship towards other posters borders on the questionable/half witted by times. Show your friendship towards me any way you want as I couldn't give a toss, particularly if it means sparing other posters your, what's the phrase again, somewhat iconic approach to posting and that's being charitable. Best of luck this pm although I would have more than a soft spot for your opponents although I would have a softer spot still for a participant in the curtain raiser.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: An Laoch on September 07, 2008, 12:49:56 PM
Can anyone confirm if Mullahoran v Gaels is going ahead? Hoping to head up to it after Waterford win the hurling :)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: CC1 on September 07, 2008, 01:57:43 PM
Was anyone at the templeport vs. Kildallon game yesterday?? Looks like quite a low scoring game. Did either side impress??
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on September 07, 2008, 02:21:03 PM
Hard to know what way to feel about the game yesterday.... glad to get that last point to get a replay but we should have the game wrapped up... missed a peno and another great goal chance... should be a interesting replay...

what this about the shercock management walking away???
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Babe Ruth 47 on September 07, 2008, 08:45:12 PM
Geals beat Mullahoran this evening by a single point. Eddie missed a free with the last kick of the game to level it.


The draw is:

Ramor v Cavan Gaels
Killygarry v Denn

Two good games for the neutral, though I'm afraid the Ramor forwards won't be getting the same space against the Gaels as they did against Kingscourt.
The second game is intriguing. Healthy rivalry between these two clubs. Both teams attempting to step up to the mark this last few years.  Didnt it take 3 matches to seperate them in '05/'06 ?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on September 07, 2008, 08:51:54 PM
I don't think you were at the game Babe Ruth as you couldn't possibly have gotten home and to your PC quicker than me. Eddie missed alright from the 45 but it was a big ask. Good second half. Gaels upped it a gear after the break and looked like they'd go on to win it easy with Johnston starting to beat Sheridan. But Mullahoran got a goal and a point in quick succession to put them ahead. Gaels upped it again and although they only won by a point it didn't really look like the got into full flow.

Eddie, Paul Brady & Philip Brady carried Mullahoran for a long time but they just don't have the quality to compete with the Gaels. Johnston was up to his old tricks, lying down after a brush across the head-very hard to like fella. McQuillan was shocking in the first half giving everything to Mullahoran and the linesman watched Fergal Brady drag Paul O'Donnell around the field for half an hour without bringing it to the refs attention.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on September 07, 2008, 08:53:49 PM
......oh and the other draws are Redhills v Drumlane & Ballyhaise/Cootehill v Lavey in the intermediate. Shercock v Drung & Mountnugent v Templeport in the Junior.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on September 07, 2008, 10:37:37 PM
Better side of the draw for us!

Didn't see the CG Mullahoran game.  Were Mullahoran unlucky?

Saw the Ramor game.  Kingscourt were very disappointing so can't really gauge how good Ramor are.  Ramor broke all the ball at midfield and the Ramor players were always first to it.

That said, the number 11 for Ramor really caught the eye.  He seemed to have all the time in the world or maybe he wanted all the time in the world.  If I was asked to describe his play it would be that it was that he was very "floaty".  I wonder how he would cope with tight marking.  Maybe he makes his own space whatever the opposition.  The game against CG will tell the tale.

Who are in the minor semis and will they be played as a double header with the seniors?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Babe Ruth 47 on September 07, 2008, 10:58:40 PM
Quote from: Lawrence of Knockbride on September 07, 2008, 08:51:54 PM
I don't think you were at the game Babe Ruth as you couldn't possibly have gotten home and to your PC quicker than me. Eddie missed alright from the 45 but it was a big ask. Good second half. Gaels upped it a gear after the break and looked like they'd go on to win it easy with Johnston starting to beat Sheridan. But Mullahoran got a goal and a point in quick succession to put them ahead. Gaels upped it again and although they only won by a point it didn't really look like the got into full flow.

Eddie, Paul Brady & Philip Brady carried Mullahoran for a long time but they just don't have the quality to compete with the Gaels. Johnston was up to his old tricks, lying down after a brush across the head-very hard to like fella. McQuillan was shocking in the first half giving everything to Mullahoran and the linesman watched Fergal Brady drag Paul O'Donnell around the field for half an hour without bringing it to the refs attention.





Afraid I was at it Lawrence, just got home very quickly, living very close! Agree with you about McQuillan, I cant understand how he is an intercounty referee, diabolical.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: CC1 on September 08, 2008, 08:20:27 AM
Quote from: Celt_Man on September 07, 2008, 02:21:03 PM
what this about the shercock management walking away???
Not saying too much about it Celt man, as you can imagine I don't want to give too many details away. There was just a difference of opinion between some of the players and some of the management, so one of the selectors and the trainer (who was linked with the selector) resigned. Meath man Martin Barry is training us from this week onward.

Real pity that the coach and the selector had to leave because things were going nice and smoothly. A change at this stage in the season isn't exactly ideal but thats life and we must get on with it. We must go onward and upward from here on, we have a tough semi final against Drung who certainly won't be any push overs and if we can't get ourselves up for this game we wouldn't stand a chance anyway. Barry is a top class trainer (he won the Junior All Ireland as manager of Meath) so we'll be prepared for the huge task ahead. It's purely down to the players now.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: North Longford on September 08, 2008, 09:25:26 AM
Was at the Gaels/Mullahoran game and would concur with all that was said. The only other point though is  that Danny Brady missed a very kickable free just before Eddie's free and also missed a couple of other handy enough chances. In fairness to Sheridan I thought he did a good job on Johnston. Was dissapointed with Nicholas Walsh, thought he'd cause more trouble as he had a big size advantage over seanie smith.
Gaels definitely the better football team but fair play to Mullahoran. They put in a fierce effort but I'd have to agree that some of it was a bit over the line and McQuillan and his linesmen were atrocious. How Eddie managed to get to the end of the game without even a yellow card is unreal. He was mad to get a hold of chesty after the game too whatever chesty said. Harldy anyone left the stand for about 2 minutes after the game to see if he'd get a swing at him. He's some boy but I reckon chesty must have said something to him becasue he was sitting disconsolate on the field way off on his own for about 30 seconds after the game and then all of a sudden he goes mad.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on September 08, 2008, 01:33:31 PM
In fairness to McQuillan I think he's usually a good ref and I defended him on a different thread after the Kerry v Cork game. But in the first half last night I couldn't believe what he was at although he was a lot closer than me to the action than I was. Sheridan did do quite well but Johnston's ability to turn onto either foot will catch out any man that gets that bit too tight without winning the ball. I also agree with the comments on Walsh. Having heard about, but not seen, his performance against Lacken I thought the county could have another option on their hands but Seanie Smith did quite well on him. Eddie had a very good game and good to see that someone on the county panel can find the distance from long range frees off the ground, if not always the accuracy. The problem is he wants to take them all and he tried one from beside the sideline on the 45 in the first half. Typical Cavan football. No interest in working the ball to a better position. All or nothing.
I'll call over for tea some evening Babe Ruth...........
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on September 08, 2008, 02:42:49 PM
We are dead lucky to get a replay out of the Cootehill game on Saturday, we were an utter shambles,

Cootehill will be kicking themselves.

Replay is on Friday Night at 8pm

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on September 08, 2008, 05:03:54 PM
Looks like Tommy Carr is going to get the job.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on September 08, 2008, 06:02:22 PM
For f**k sake Myles. You might as well as have put ..................s after that comment. Give us some details, back-up or whatever.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on September 08, 2008, 07:35:14 PM
Quote from: Lawrence of Knockbride on September 08, 2008, 06:02:22 PM
For f**k sake Myles. You might as well as have put ..................s after that comment. Give us some details, back-up or whatever.

I heard it from a lad from Roscommon that Carr has the job if he wants it. Don't really know how reliable this guy is so don't quote me on it............ :D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Mr. Pain on September 09, 2008, 08:49:50 AM
So far off the mark lads. Word is Carr turned it down and is interested in the Donegal job although news this morning states he threw in a bid to become the next Meath manager. Not known yet who will take the job.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cornafean on September 09, 2008, 09:37:15 AM
Was anything said at the County Board meeting last night?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Hollow Man on September 09, 2008, 10:11:58 AM
QuoteWas anything said at the County Board meeting last night?

You should know
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on September 09, 2008, 10:30:06 AM
Quote from: Mr. Pain on September 09, 2008, 08:49:50 AM
So far off the mark lads. Word is Carr turned it down and is interested in the Donegal job although news this morning states he threw in a bid to become the next Meath manager. Not known yet who will take the job.

Well if he turned it down then he must have been offered it, which is what I was told. I am getting a sinking feeling now that Stephen King will be successful.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Mr. Pain on September 09, 2008, 10:49:28 AM
Nope - outside man. ;)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: CavanCola on September 09, 2008, 11:05:05 AM


http://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-football/carr-to-drive-meath-1472089.html


Carr has been the favourite for the Cavan job since last week when it was strongly speculated that he had been offered it. This was denied by Cavan officials yesterday.

Cavan County Board met last night and delegates were informed that their search is now down to three potential candidates.

Cavan employed the services of SportsTracker to recruit a manager and Peter McGrath, the former Down manager, helped with the interview process.

Justin McNulty, Dominic Corrigan and Paddy O'Rourke are also thought to be under consideration for the role.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on September 09, 2008, 01:11:38 PM
Quote from: cornafean on September 09, 2008, 09:37:15 AM
Was anything said at the County Board meeting last night?
The word from the County Board meeting last night was-20 men applied for the job.8 Men were interviewed in the last week and it is now down to 3 Men.NONE are from inside the County.My source from the meeting got the feeling that its gonna b Tommy Carr but he could b wrong.
The dispute over the Intermediate Relegation Play-off was also settled last night with it decided that Killenkere will now have to play in the Play-offs.
Was at the Ballyhaise-Cootehill game Saturday evening in Drumalee Saturday evening.Was actually doing umpire.It was a very strange game with lots of over the top tackling,which the referee John Emo did feck all about.There was a very strong breeze blowing towards the complex end in the 1st half which left Ballyhaise up 5-0 at HT.Cootehill started 2nd half well with Paul McCarney being brought on at Full-Forward giving Sean McCormack a torrid time,he was brought down for a penalty but the Cootehill Goalie kicked it wide.A mistake from the Ballyhaise corner back led to Colm Smith firing home the only goal of the game.Cootehill though failed to keep hitting McCarney with the ball for some reason and Ballyhaise got it back all level.The Cootehill sub NO 13 I think then had a serious chance for a goal(although he shud have just fisted it over the bar) but he pulled his shot wide.Ali Pickett who had been very well marked by Barry McGahan got loose for once and fired over what seemed like the winner but up popped our friend NO13 the sub to make amends for the earlier miss and fire over a superb point with the final kick of the game.
Its all to play for Next week.Have Cootehill missed the boat? All I will say though is that both teams will have to improve if they are to win the Championship outright.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on September 09, 2008, 02:41:29 PM
Quote from: CavanCola on September 09, 2008, 11:05:05 AM


http://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-football/carr-to-drive-meath-1472089.html


Carr has been the favourite for the Cavan job since last week when it was strongly speculated that he had been offered it. This was denied by Cavan officials yesterday.

Cavan County Board met last night and delegates were informed that their search is now down to three potential candidates.

Cavan employed the services of SportsTracker to recruit a manager and Peter McGrath, the former Down manager, helped with the interview process.

Justin McNulty, Dominic Corrigan and Paddy O'Rourke are also thought to be under consideration for the role.



This report doesn;t make sense. It says thata they are down to 3 potential candidates but that 3 others (McNulty, Corrigan and O Rourke) are under consideration. Didn't think of McNulty - anyone know what he was like with Mullahoran. Boojangles - Did your contact at the CB meeting get any feeling for the time frame of a decision?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on September 09, 2008, 06:07:25 PM
Well there was no definite time-frame given but Philip Smith did say that he had hoped to have a man to ratify at the meeting last night but he said it was a possibility that the delegates may b asked back next Monday night to ratify a manager.
I'd say that the 3 names are Tommy Carr,Paddy O Rourke and Dominic Corrigan.
As regards the Mullahoran game,I wasnt at it but I believe Mullahoran had the winning of it.My father said to me during the week that Mullahoran stood a chance once Joe McQuillan was refereeing it,Joehas no love for the Gaels and any time the 2 play he always gives whatevers in it to Mullahoran so he was true to form anyway.Joe can b an excellent referee when he wants to be but he takes sides and thats the worst trait any referee can have in my book.
I also believe Eddie showed himself up for what he is again.The man gives Mullahoran a bad name and Mullahoran may not realise it but they are probably better off without him.He dictates to everybody on the team and he wants to take every free.(A bit like McCabe with the County team)I believe he was taking frees off Paul the Gunner when he should have been staying inside himself so they had a target man.The man never thinks about the team.He may b a sound fella off the field I dunno but I know on the field he's nothing but a gypsy and Il stand by that.
I think Iv wasted enough of my time ranting about him.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Hollow Man on September 09, 2008, 09:14:53 PM
Quote.He may b a sound fella off the field I dunno but I know on the field he's nothing but a gypsy

Coming from a Scumalee player that is high praise indeed.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on September 09, 2008, 09:30:58 PM
Quote from: Hollow Man on September 09, 2008, 09:14:53 PM
Quote.He may b a sound fella off the field I dunno but I know on the field he's nothing but a gypsy

Coming from a Scumalee player that is high praise indeed.



Coming from a prize winning tosspot that's right up there with your usual standard of contribution
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on September 10, 2008, 12:44:53 AM
In order of my preference.
1.Justin McNulty
2.Dominic Corrigan
3.Paddy O Rourke(ive heard hes real oldschool like O Dwyer,Lots of laps etc)

would still rather either of those 3 than Tommy Carr.



Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on September 10, 2008, 03:05:34 AM
Quote from: Hollow Man on September 09, 2008, 09:14:53 PM
Quote.He may b a sound fella off the field I dunno but I know on the field he's nothing but a gypsy

Coming from a Scumalee player that is high praise indeed.
Il let ya away with that one Hollow,I dont believe in reporting to the Mods.Supposedly ya know my identity Hollow ya tell me?Im sure ourselves and Ramor will cross paths in the next while.How about you come in and mark me for a while some day and if I come out with the same personal shit that one Eddie the Great does then you can call me Scum all ya want,I mite even let ya get a rap in at me.Until then keep it shut,OK?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Mr. Pain on September 10, 2008, 09:35:17 AM
It appears some peoplem are on the blob!

BHM for what reason would you have Justin McNulty at the top of the list? What intercounty managerial experience?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on September 10, 2008, 09:45:52 AM
Quote from: Mr. Pain on September 10, 2008, 09:35:17 AM
It appears some peoplem are on the blob!

BHM for what reason would you have Justin McNulty at the top of the list? What intercounty managerial experience?

I'd be interested in knowing that too. Have you heard good things about him in Mullahoran? I would be really against Corrigan and O Rourke. O Rourke got sweet FA out of a half decent Down side and Corrigans lot went down hill big time in Sligo. I'd put Carr above those two anyhow. McNulty I know nothing about, but he does have a very good football career behind him at the top level and does  have some Cavan club football experience. Unless someone tells me something else about him though, I would still have Carr top of the list.

According to the TV3 news this morning Carr says he has not been approached about the Meath job and is waiting to hear back from Cavan. Its hard to know what is the truth and what isn't.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Mr. Pain on September 10, 2008, 10:10:22 AM
You will find that a lot of lies are being told throughout this process. ;)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: North Longford on September 10, 2008, 11:06:38 AM
Was talking to a well respected TV pundit yesterday who reckoned Carr has just about been offered the Cavan job but had not commited yet. Same man thought this was because he would have a bit of a hankering for the Meath job and wanted to see how this panned out. Same man thought Carr would be a good appointment for either county.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on September 10, 2008, 08:17:08 PM
Out of all the candidates on the list, Tommy Carr seems to come closest to ticking the necessary boxes that come with this challenging job of work - he's his own man, takes no shit, is a recognised disciplinarian and doesn't kow-tow to big names.

If he got the proper support from the county board - i.e. no sponsors or clubs getting shirty when their man isn't in there or gets fucked off the panel for being a waster - then I think Tommy Carr is someone our young players would respect and look up to, and he would have us in a solid, if perhaps unspectacular position in two years time.

I hope he gets offered it and I hope he takes it. At least our pursuing him would suggest that someone on the CB recognises that the shower of posers and wasters currently defaming our county jersey need a tough hand to batter them into shape.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on September 10, 2008, 09:29:14 PM
Im in 2 minds over Tommy Carr.One side off me sees the need for a strict disciplinarian that Im sure as an Army man he would bring but on the other side,what sort of new ideas or tactics would he bring? From what I hear he is lacking ideas along the line-something that really frustrates me about a manager.I couldnt give a bollix if a manager doesnt know how to spell 'Ladders' or 'Cones' but he has to know a footballer and should b quick on his feet during matches.Some clubs in Cavan take these requirements in a Manager for granted.
I was also speaking to a man during the week and he reckons that he will object at the County Board meeting if Tommy Carr is sent for ratification.I dont know if that will make any difference but it shows that you will never please everybody.
I also think alot of us are overlooking Dominic Corrigans credentials,forgetting about Sligo.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on September 10, 2008, 11:44:08 PM
Quote from: Mr. Pain on September 10, 2008, 09:35:17 AM
It appears some peoplem are on the blob!

BHM for what reason would you have Justin McNulty at the top of the list? What intercounty managerial experience?

Quote from: mylestheslasher on September 10, 2008, 09:45:52 AM
Quote from: Mr. Pain on September 10, 2008, 09:35:17 AM
It appears some peoplem are on the blob!

BHM for what reason would you have Justin McNulty at the top of the list? What intercounty managerial experience?

I'd be interested in knowing that too. Have you heard good things about him in Mullahoran? I would be really against Corrigan and O Rourke. O Rourke got sweet FA out of a half decent Down side and Corrigans lot went down hill big time in Sligo. I'd put Carr above those two anyhow. McNulty I know nothing about, but he does have a very good football career behind him at the top level and does  have some Cavan club football experience. Unless someone tells me something else about him though, I would still have Carr top of the list.

According to the TV3 news this morning Carr says he has not been approached about the Meath job and is waiting to hear back from Cavan. Its hard to know what is the truth and what isn't.

Yes i do know that Justin McNulty is highly regarded  over on the Longford border,
My source is a prominent Mullahoran Player and has been for the last 10 years plus.
Off Topic,
i know hes not in for the job, But ive heard great things about Pascal Canavan aswell,The Mullahoran lads supposedly would swear by him.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on September 12, 2008, 08:41:12 AM
According to the national media Tommy Carr is to be named manager this evening.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on September 12, 2008, 10:18:33 AM
Seems to be a done deal all right. Indo this morning refers to Meath making a late bid for his services so he must have something to offer. Mind you it seems to be a bit of a managers merry go round for certain blokes once they get on the treadmill. Anyway, being positive for a moment and theres plenty of reason to be positive, we weren't a million miles away from some reasonable teams this year with a poor enough system and a manager that was out of his depth. If Carr is not stymied by clubs/county board etc. there should be some scope for improvement. Would be good if somebody like Graham or Morris were brought into the setup with an eye to the future.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: The GAA on September 12, 2008, 12:33:55 PM

These county managerial appointments amuse me. on what basis would you give tommy carr the job of managing your county senior team?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on September 12, 2008, 02:01:26 PM
Well for me he is the best of what is left. He achieved some success with Roscommon in getting them to a connaught final and to the all ireland quarter finals. He is a tough disciplinarian, which is very important for any manager coming into Cavan. He has been in the media spotlight previously and has managed Dublin. The guy will demand respect and I imagine will lead by example in this regard, unlike our previous manager.

There maybe better more experienced and more successful managers out there but they will not want to come to Cavan. Our stock is low at the moment and we can only get the best of the people who are interested. I think Carr will be a decent appointment if he accepts.

What do you find so amusing about the appointment?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on September 12, 2008, 02:35:07 PM
Tough enough to disagree with that assessment Myles. If it goes through will represent a bit of playing safe by the County Board, if they went for the next Jason Ryan and it backfired we'd have hell to play. The probably see somebody like Carr as giving some chance of a small bit of a return to respectability. Anyway, the manager can only take you so far, or so Shanahan/Mullane/McGrath etc. have discovered in the other code.

Wonder if they lifted the phone to any specific individuals as part of the process. Heard Mickey Moran was saying the other day that he was buggered if he'd be applying/sending in his CV for inter county positions , if you want Mickey, lift the phone it seems.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on September 12, 2008, 03:29:31 PM
Quote from: anglocelt39 on September 12, 2008, 02:35:07 PM
Heard Mickey Moran was saying the other day that he was buggered, if you want Mickey, lift the phone it seems.

Now that's just outrageous anglocelt39, I had you down as better than that.

;)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Hollow Man on September 12, 2008, 03:44:26 PM
 ;D Classic!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on September 12, 2008, 03:50:40 PM
It seems Tommy Carr is the choice,

Cant say im thrilled,he wouldnt have been my choice.

Good luck to him though, He will need it.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on September 12, 2008, 08:26:11 PM
Quote from: cavanmaniac on September 12, 2008, 03:29:31 PM
Quote from: anglocelt39 on September 12, 2008, 02:35:07 PM
Heard Mickey Moran was saying the other day that he was buggered, if you want Mickey, lift the phone it seems.

Now that's just outrageous anglocelt39, I had you down as better than that.

;)

You dirty, dirty dog you maniac. Let's just be asolutely clear now, I heard it SECOND HAND, OK
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on September 12, 2008, 08:29:00 PM
Quote from: Hollow Man on September 12, 2008, 03:44:26 PM
;D Classic!


Indeed it is. Excellent play on words, genuinely humourous, no offence intended or taken. Go away and study it for a year or two and see if you can learn likewise, shiteforbrains. Best of luck against the Gaels while I'm at it.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on September 12, 2008, 08:42:45 PM
Quote from: anglocelt39 on September 12, 2008, 08:29:00 PM
Quote from: Hollow Man on September 12, 2008, 03:44:26 PM
;D Classic!


Indeed it is. Excellent play on words, genuinely humourous, no offence intended or taken. Go away and study it for a year or two and see if you can learn likewise, shiteforbrains. Best of luck against the Gaels while I'm at it.

Sorry, can I just update the above for "posted by somebody who has a relatively consistent record in making reasoned, relevant and intelligent posting contributions. "

Think that covers most of it but sure if there are any other matters that I feel might be of relevance to the remedial education program of the Hollow Skulled one I'll post in due course
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Mr. Pain on September 13, 2008, 11:47:39 AM
Whoa whoa whoa! Hold on a second there Anglo Celt. You have the audacity to call Mr. Pain's buddy Hollow a shitforbrains! Mr. Pain fails to see the reason for this seemingly unprovoked attack. Mr. Pain can guarantee you one thing as he has read many of Hollow's posts: In a duel, you would be the shitforbrains! This man knows his shit. Rant over!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on September 13, 2008, 01:20:18 PM
I believe I can now tell you Mr Pain - I told you so.....

Carr drives into Cavan

Cavan manager Tommy Carr
13 September 2008


Former Roscommon and Dublin football boss Tommy Carr is the new team-manager of the Cavan senior team.

It was understood that Carr would be announced at the Cavan County Board's monthly meeting on Monday night next but, instead, the board issued a statement last night (Friday).

The statement, after a specially convened management meeting of the board, confirmed Carr's three-year appointment:

"At a specially convened management meeting of Cavan County Board held tonight (Friday), the name of Tommy Carr was put forward as the new Cavan senior team-manager for 2008.

"He will be appointed for a three-year term. He will be presented to county board delegates at a meeting in the Hotel Kilmore on Monday night. His backroom team will be appointed in due course."

Eight candidates had been interviewed for the position and the number was whittled down to three.

Carr succeeds Donal Keogan in the hot seat following the latter's resignation after Cavan lost out to Kildare in this year's All-Ireland qualifiers.

Best of luck to Tommy Carr. I hope he now brings in at least one local selector into his team. I think I'd like to see Bernard Morris in there. An honest to God footballer and a man with no clouds of shit hanging around him (as far as I know)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tierworker blue on September 14, 2008, 02:56:56 AM
so the wait is over and tommy carr is about to take over the biggest and most high profile job in (cavan) football...the very best of luck to him, and here's hoping we have something to shout about and be proud of before long. there seems to be quite a few people who want to knock him before he even gets a chance, but i guess you'll always get that and it really is hard to please all of the people all of the time (of course, as always, these are normally the first folk to hop on the bandwagon when it gets going, although the breffni blue bandwagon will need a good servicing before it gets revved up methinks!)
a lot of high profile names have been bandied about, but being realistic, these people were never going to take the cavan job. personally, i think tommy carr is a decent appointment, and hopefully he can instigate a set up that will take us forward, instead of backwards as we have been going for the past while. he is known as a strict manager and discipline is a high priority with him, and that is exactly what we need. i have no doubt that a few years of a professional set up will create a good foundation that can be built on for the future. if mickey graham is left alone to work well with the minors and they are fed into a solid senior set up, there is no reason that we cannot challenge for honours in the future...it can be done, and it is amazing what a few wins and some confidence in ourselves could do! if someone is told every day that they are ugly, very soon they  believe that they are ugly. to run with that analogy for a minute, in footballing terms, we have been called ugly so often (barring a peak in the mid to late 90's i've never seen any success and that air of always being at that bottom of the pile permeates throughout everyone who is blue blooded!) that it seems to be part of our mindset and is definetly one of the biggest mountains that must be climbed. i hope he brings in a few good selectors from within the county who have no personal agendas (less parochial...more unbiased!) and i also think that the involvement of a good a sports psychologist would'nt do any harm at all...its important to be physically top of the heap, but i also think that we need some mental motivation to reinstil the belief that we can stand up and be counted like anyone else. now i know many people are of the opinion that that kind of thing is mumbo jumbo, but what im talking about is'nt about trickery or gimmicks...just basic man motivation (like what gerry mc entee has been doing for kilkenny for the past while...it certantly has'nt done them any harm, eh?!)
i have often been slated for being too optimistic about the breffni blues and what we could achieve (the glass is usually half full in tierworker!) but i have a feeling in my gut that things are going to start getting better (either that or it's indegestion...!) and that the blue army, the true aristocrats of ulster football (that statement usually draws bewildered looks from most people who don't read history books!) will be able to stand proud before too long...the only way is up after all, eh?!

an cabhan abu...
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Hollow Man on September 14, 2008, 12:56:28 PM
Anglo Celt, that was a totally unwarranted attack.

If you really want, and if it will make you feel better, the Hollow Man will cease posting on here - the forum is gone to hell anyway.

Say the word my pretentious chum. If you can't stand someone who doesn't tolerate your shite - or any shite talk for that matter - say it and I will stop posting here. Myself and Boojangles are at each other's throats full time, but he doesn't resort to random attack, but if that's your style go for it!

Should the Hollow Man quit the board? Vote now.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on September 14, 2008, 01:00:53 PM
Can't really disagree with anything that the Tierworker man has said. Carr has some job on his hands and things might have to get worse before they get better. If he's a strict disciplinarian and you believe half of what you read in forums like this, there could be an awful lot of lads due to get gate. No problem doing something like that in Dublin where you can go out and find a few more running robots to join the panel, we wouldn't quite have the numbers to accommodate wholesale sackings so lets hope players buy into a more professional way of doing things.

If he gets the discipline thing sorted out the measure of whether he can be successful or not might depend on how good he is at getting players to believe in themselves i.e. despite all the one points losses at minor and under 21 level and all the senior championship defeats over the last few years you are as good as the rest of them. That's what the late E Coleman seemed to be good at and what DK didn't seem strong at, you got the impression in the last two years that players had nearly conceded championship defeat before the ball was thrown in, maybe that's a bit harsh but just an impression. Interesting times, time to be positive, Division 3 will be no cake walk next year.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on September 14, 2008, 01:32:19 PM
With apologies to the other posters on this board let me explain myself once and for all Hollow Man. 90% of what you have been posting on here for the last whatever has been highly relevant etc. etc. The other 10% that combines personalised/windup/smartarse/putdown etc. got a bit boring after a while, that's just my personal view mind I'm sure there are others found it entertaining. I'm not a bit proud to say that I've taken the view that if you're willing to dish it out, you should be prepared to take it. You say yourself and Boojangles are at each others throats, a while back it was yourself and Ballyhaise Man, a few weeks ago it was yourself and Myles. There's a common demoninator in these disagreements, can you work out what it is? In fairness to you in your exchanges with BHM you made no bones about the fact that you were deliberately setting out to wind the lad up so no ambiguity there.

I have shag all to add to this board most of the time and I've had my disagreements with plenty of people (Myles about Keogan, Maniac about too many things to reproduce here). I'd like to think the disagreements have mostly been about some aspect of Cavan football which we are all passionate about and we've, mostly, agreed to differ and move on.

So there you have it. Oh and as regards any vote you have my vote to stop posting on the basis that I would have found this forum much more enjoyable, informative and entertaining two years back, but sure that's my own view which you asked for.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Babe Ruth 47 on September 14, 2008, 07:37:34 PM
Can anyone tell me on what date is the county final? I think it is either the 12th / 19th October
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cornafean on September 15, 2008, 01:27:52 PM
19th, I've heard.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Mr. Pain on September 15, 2008, 02:19:17 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on September 13, 2008, 01:20:18 PM
I believe I can now tell you Mr Pain - I told you so.....

Yes myles you can now tell Mr. Pain that you told him so. However, at the time of Mr. Pain's comment he was correct in what he said. Carr was given time to accept and then refused and was then given more time to decide and Mr. Pain reckons he was given a more attractive offer before he accepted! ;)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Gold on September 15, 2008, 03:34:35 PM
Whos gonna win your club championship?

I took in the Denn, Knockbride first round game one friday night a few months back and Denn looked quite a good side although the 2 Reillys nearly pulled it back for Knockbride near the end. Are the Gaels certs this year or can anyone cause a shock?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on September 15, 2008, 05:20:01 PM
Quote from: Gold on September 15, 2008, 03:34:35 PM
Whos gonna win your club championship?

I took in the Denn, Knockbride first round game one friday night a few months back and Denn looked quite a good side although the 2 Reillys nearly pulled it back for Knockbride near the end. Are the Gaels certs this year or can anyone cause a shock?

I'll be predictable and say the Gaels will win. Question is are they going to be up to much in Ulster.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on September 15, 2008, 06:35:17 PM
We got the better side of the draw although I don't know what the mindset of the team will be like after the tragic death of Martin Cahill's brother.

It brings everything into perspective really.  RIP
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on September 15, 2008, 08:39:31 PM
Quote from: Denn Forever on September 15, 2008, 06:35:17 PM
We got the better side of the draw although I don't know what the mindset of the team will be like after the tragic death of Martin Cahill's brother.

It brings everything into perspective really.  RIP

Very true words.Worked for a few weeks for Shane,didnt know him too well but seemed a very sound fella.RIP.

Hollow dont think anybody is gonna vote for you to leave the Board in fairness.As Anglo said 90% of the time what you post is informative and all that but when you start the smart shit(like the Scumalee jibe) thats what I have a problem with.I would call that a personal attack as bad as what Anglo called you.You said you dont tolerate people talking shit,if you disagreed with my comments about Eddie Reilly then explain your opinion-like I did?
Anyway thats all Im gonna say about it,I dont come on here to argue.Maybe debate but definetely not argue.
PS- Mr Pain,are you related to Hollow Man or sometin,you seem like a big brother watching his back or mayb its just me??
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on September 16, 2008, 08:19:32 AM
For what its worth I don't want Hollow man to leave the board. I would like him to simply have a bit more manners and respect for some of the people on here. If you disagree with someone you don't need to jump in two footed and start slagging. I like to think that type of stuff stays on the Hoganstand website for minors, while we would be a bit older and wiser.

I didn't hear about Martin Cahills brother until. It is sad news indeed. May he rest in peace.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on September 17, 2008, 10:40:54 AM
Carr hits the right note from the start, I find it refreshing that we have a manager that seems to be talking the talk that I have been waiting to hear for years, now lets see if he walks the walk too.

Carr looking for commitment
17 September 2008


New Cavan manager Tommy Carr insists he will have no problem dropping players from his panel if they are not fully committed to the cause.

The former Dublin and Roscommon supremo is determined to revive the Breffni County's footballing fortunes, but says this can only be achieved if the players are fully committed.

"The one thing I've learned in my experience as a manager is that if you have players on the panel and they are not fully committed, then no matter how talented they are, you are better off without them," he said.

"No matter how much effort is being put in by the management and selectors, it will not bring success or an improvement of standards unless every player in the panel is willing to give his all.

"For me, that will be important in my working with Cavan. And neither should the manager feel that taking over a county team should be some sort of opportunity for the glory of playing in a big championship game in Croke Park.

"For a start, you have to want to do it and I've given a commitment to Cavan and want to try to do a job for them to the best of my ability.

"I feel that perhaps too many guys look at the TV and they see Croke Park and big qualifying games and All-Ireland semi-finals and think that is brilliant.

"But that is only a very small percentage of what is involved in the whole thing. At the end of the day, it's the commitment from management and players together that makes for a successful county team."
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: PhilsJemmysField on September 17, 2008, 11:31:57 AM
PROPOSED CHANGES FOR THE A.C.F.L. LEAGUE BY THE COUNTY BOARD

•   Semi Finals in all divisions
•   Division 1 to 3 relegation semi finals to allow 4 games without county players (This gives clubs with county players chance to get out of relegation)
•   Rounds of league to be completed before championship starts on Master Plan


PROPOSED CHANGES FOR CHAMPIONSHIP

•   Move 2 teams from Intermediate to Senior.
•   This leaves 16 teams – 4 groups of 4, top 2 quarter finals, bottom team relegation.  Semi finalists from previous year grade into each group.
•   Same procedure for the Intermediate and Junior
•   Allow teams who want to play in Junior Championship who have 2 teams play and promotion from Junior B to Junior.

Condition:  If Cavan make it to An All Ireland Championship Quarter Final that the championship reverts to a straight knockout.


Other Options:

1.   Straight Knockout Competition
2.   Run on a league basis – 4 groups of 4.  A shield final could be run for the bottom 2 in each group.



"We would appreciate your comments or any other suggestions for the format of our league and championship"

Please reply before 03rd October with views.

Thanking you.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on September 17, 2008, 02:01:40 PM
Quote from: PhilsJemmysField on September 17, 2008, 11:31:57 AM
PROPOSED CHANGES FOR THE A.C.F.L. LEAGUE BY THE COUNTY BOARD

•   Semi Finals in all divisions - No problems with that.
•   Division 1 to 3 relegation semi finals to allow 4 games without county players (This gives clubs with county players chance to get out of relegation) - Not sure I understand what you mean here. I don't believe county men should be excused from any club fixtures. Club fixtures should be arranged so that they don't conflict with county matches.
•   Rounds of league to be completed before championship starts on Master Plan - absolutley agree


PROPOSED CHANGES FOR CHAMPIONSHIP

•   Move 2 teams from Intermediate to Senior. - Good Idea
•   This leaves 16 teams – 4 groups of 4, top 2 quarter finals, bottom team relegation.  Semi finalists from previous year grade into each group. - Good Idea
•   Same procedure for the Intermediate and Junior - Good Idea
•   Allow teams who want to play in Junior Championship who have 2 teams play and promotion from Junior B to Junior. - I like this idea but does it mean that a junior club can get relegated to junior B? That might not go down well.

Condition:  If Cavan make it to An All Ireland Championship Quarter Final that the championship reverts to a straight knockout. - Is this workable?, surely it depends on what stage the championship is at. This rule could result in total farce.

Other Options:

1.   Straight Knockout Competition - I prefer a system of groups then knockouts. It gives teams a chance to play a few games.
2.   Run on a league basis – 4 groups of 4.  A shield final could be run for the bottom 2 in each group. - Forget the shield, no players will be interested in that. Relegation play offs for the bottom teams in each group.


"We would appreciate your comments or any other suggestions for the format of our league and championship"

Please reply before 03rd October with views.

Thanking you.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on September 17, 2008, 02:12:41 PM
There should be no semi finals or finals in the League,
it should be
Top team wins the league and Second also gets promoted.
Its the way they do it in Armagh i believe.

as for the  Leagues finishing before Championship starts, Nice idea in theory,But if Cavan win a game or two,as usual the league will be jacked in for a month or two.

Move 2 teams from Intermediate to Senior. -dont know if i agree.i sure as hell wouldnt want promotion for finishing as runners up in the intermediate!
•   Allow teams who want to play in Junior Championship who have 2 teams play and promotion from Junior B to Junior. - Agree with this
Cavan Gaels ,Crosserlough and Killygarry have the top 3 Junior B or Reserve teams in the county
They would more than hold their own in the Junior Championship and should be allowed to participate.

If Cavan make it to An All Ireland Championship Quarter Final that the championship reverts to a straight knockout. -
Agree with Myles, how the hell are you meant to change the format mid-season,It aint fair on Managers and Teams who may be designing their Training programmes around the current structure.Farcical idea.

Straight Knockout Competition-No,Teams train to hard nowadays just to be one and done in championship football,

Groups of 3 and 4 like it was before is the correct way to go,at least it gives a team 2 or 3 games.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on September 19, 2008, 10:59:52 AM
PROPOSED CHANGES FOR THE A.C.F.L. LEAGUE BY THE COUNTY BOARD

•   Semi Finals in all divisions  To what end?  Is this not more games.  I would suggest that a league is a league, those best over the whole league deserve to be champions
•   Division 1 to 3 relegation semi finals to allow 4 games without county players (This gives clubs with county players chance to get out of relegation)
More games.  Those who do worst during the year should be relegated.  This system as I would undertstand it could mean that the team that finished fourth from bottom could be relegated if they lose their semi final.  Hardly seems fair?
•   Rounds of league to be completed before championship starts on Master Plan 12 games in 3 months as the league stands.  When will the league start?  February?  Would fly in the face of GAA plans to prevent player burnout i.e. no training over the winter.  Sounds good but what about county players and their loss to their clubs before the ulster championship.  And when do the semi finals (both relegation and winners) get played?


PROPOSED CHANGES FOR CHAMPIONSHIP

•   Move 2 teams from Intermediate to Senior.
OK but how are the lucky one chosen?
•   This leaves 16 teams – 4 groups of 4, top 2 quarter finals, bottom team relegation. Similar to what it is at the moment
Semi finalists from previous year grade into each group.What does this mean?
•   Same procedure for the Intermediate and Juniorsee above
•   Allow teams who want to play in Junior Championship who have 2 teams play and promotion from Junior B to Junior.Sound good.  Player should always try and play at the highest level

Condition:  If Cavan make it to An All Ireland Championship Quarter Final that the championship reverts to a straight knockout.
See below.  Maybe for the next two years it should revert to staight knockout so it can give Carr the best chance without having to worry about a complicated League/Championship putting demand on the players


Other Options:

1.   Straight Knockout CompetitionSee Above
2.   Run on a league basis – 4 groups of 4.  A shield final could be run for the bottom 2 in each group.
That way every one has a chance of winning something?  Championship is championship, old school


It is good to see that Cavan GAA are thinking about things but my reading of it is that there will be more games and these games will be compressed into a very narrow time frame.  It also demands that clubs buy into this and are willing to work with the county board and with other clubs.


Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on September 19, 2008, 11:01:26 AM
Jaysus lads, I'm suprised a few of ye that are playing ball aren't bothered to comment on the proposed structure above. Where is Hollowman, CC1, Homer etc etc?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on September 19, 2008, 01:58:18 PM
I'm still here, just don't get posting as much as I use to.


Re: Tommy Carr
Not hugely excited by the appointment but I wish Tommy all the best and would be only too delighted for him to prove me wrong. I think Myles said it best,  as a county we're just not attractive enough to get anyone better at the minute. Hopefully he'll have learned from his time with Dublin and Roscommon and things could work out for us. Will be interesting to see what sort of names return to the panel... Lyng? Gaynor? Chesty?


As for the format proposals, I think one of the main problems they are trying to address is that the Leagues are not competitive enough at the moment, and every year the arse always falls out if them as the year goes on as only a handful of teams have either promotion/semi-final to play for or relegation to avoid. Introducing Semi-Finals may help this but I'd prefer to see the League given more importance by allowing it to have a bearing on the Championship. Something like a seedings system introduced where a team's end of year League position would assign them there seeding and this would be used during the championship draw for the coming year (however as it's unlikely that we will get the league run-off in time it may have to used for the following year). So for the first round of the championship seed 1 teams go into one pot and are drawn against a seed 2 side. Just an idea but it might help keep things a little more competitive right to the end.


A few of the Ballinagh lads are heading up for a 7-a-side competition in Ratoath tomorrow. This is the first year they've organised it, inviting the reigning intermediate champions from every county. I have always heard great things about the Kilmacud tournament so hoping to go along for the day.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on September 19, 2008, 02:37:26 PM
I went to the Kilmacud 7s one year and it was one of the best days I've passed watching GAA. Some major intercounty stars on show playing exhibition football what with the extra space and fast pace of the games. Marvellous stuff. Just highlights how good a game it could be when there's less negativity and crabbed handpassing.

As for returning players for Tommy Carr, I'd be surprised if he didn't at least give Gaynor a chance. Unfortunately, with Gaynor I expect this would be a chance to screw up again, but I expect Tommy will give him at least one to see if he can be handled or responds properly.

Lyng I would expect back as well, I'd say his reasons for quitting last time were 80% Keogan-related.

Chesty will likely get a turn too if he's interested, although I must say he has always totally underwhelmed me in an intercounty shirt, maybe it's just me, I dunno. I'd far rather see Rabbitte back in harness, fully fit, he was the last passing impression of a full-back we had I think.

Ah sure it's a new slate and hope as ever, springs eternal. I think Pearse McKenna's time may have passed in terms of age as well as motivation but if he had anything left in the tank in either respect, he'd be worth a look for a year at least.

By the way, did anyone see that hilarious email of DK doing the rounds?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on September 19, 2008, 03:01:26 PM
Saw 'the email' alright Maniac... you'd think Keoghan of all people would remember to lock himself in!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on September 19, 2008, 03:02:42 PM
Quote from: cavanmaniac on September 19, 2008, 02:37:26 PM
I went to the Kilmacud 7s one year and it was one of the best days I've passed watching GAA. Some major intercounty stars on show playing exhibition football what with the extra space and fast pace of the games. Marvellous stuff. Just highlights how good a game it could be when there's less negativity and crabbed handpassing.

As for returning players for Tommy Carr, I'd be surprised if he didn't at least give Gaynor a chance. Unfortunately, with Gaynor I expect this would be a chance to screw up again, but I expect Tommy will give him at least one to see if he can be handled or responds properly.

Lyng I would expect back as well, I'd say his reasons for quitting last time were 80% Keogan-related.

Chesty will likely get a turn too if he's interested, although I must say he has always totally underwhelmed me in an intercounty shirt, maybe it's just me, I dunno. I'd far rather see Rabbitte back in harness, fully fit, he was the last passing impression of a full-back we had I think.

Ah sure it's a new slate and hope as ever, springs eternal. I think Pearse McKenna's time may have passed in terms of age as well as motivation but if he had anything left in the tank in either respect, he'd be worth a look for a year at least.

By the way, did anyone see that hilarious email of DK doing the rounds?

I think a clean slate is def required. He needs to lay his cards on the table and make everyone know what he expects. If it is beyond players then they can walk away. If some of them screw up then he can give them the boot. But I think it is only right to start from scratch with everyone.

I'd like to see that email on Keoghan. Can you PM it to me if it can't be posted.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on September 19, 2008, 10:02:59 PM
Drung 1 09       Shercock 1  04

An enjoyable game after the negative, scared senior football that I've seen this year.  Drung were always in control with the wing backs joining with the attack at will in the first half.  Shercock were much better possession wise in the second half and may have caused Drung more problems if they'd taken the points instead of going for goals.  The referee wasn't too bad but I would say that Shercock followers will not be sending him a christmas card this year. 

The game also demonstated the usefulness of having a keeper that has a good kickout.  The Shercock keeper had to be inventive when kicking out the ball to get his man where as the Drung keeper could drive it long to his midfielders.  But I hope next year in the Ulster chamnpionship he won't let as soft a goal as he let in tonight.  I'd say he'll be there as are there any other keepers about.

That said, enjoyable football and the first championship game I've been at this year when there was a good atmosphere kept alive by the play on the field.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Swadman on September 20, 2008, 11:18:25 AM
PROPOSED CHANGES FOR THE A.C.F.L. LEAGUE BY THE COUNTY BOARD

•   Semi Finals in all divisions:  This is more games and I know that a league is a league but it would keep the interest of the mid table teams in the competition. The top 2 at the end of the league obviously get promoted but a top 4 play-off for a League cup would be good.
•   Division 1 to 3 relegation semi finals to allow 4 games without county players (This gives clubs with county players chance to get out of relegation) Don't agree at all. This means that if you have a county player(s) you will have to play 4 games of the league without him/them. Pointless. Makes a joke of the league. Whatever about one or two games without him/them, but no relegation play-offs.
•   Rounds of league to be completed before championship starts on Master Plan Yes. League should start early March but the Master Plan should take into account delays in finishing the league eg. bad weather, funerals, etc. and set the championship to start mid August.
Division 6 My own idea for this division is that it should be 13 a side, 25 mins per half. It is the bottom of the barrell and a place where old boys are out to pasture and very young lads are blooded but a lot of games this year have been cancelled either because clubs would have to play most of their 1st team, or it was a mid week fixture, or it was'nt played as a doudle header (when it could have been). I feel sorry for the guys who help to make up the numbers at training all season but are just not good enough for even a bench start on the 1st team. Games in Div 6 are for these Walter Mitty's and the few youngsters who will make it to the next level. The GAA and every club need these guys involved, it's not all about winning, taking part and adding life and commitment to your club should be rewarded too.  

PROPOSED CHANGES FOR CHAMPIONSHIP

•   Move 2 teams from Intermediate to Senior.
•   This leaves 16 teams – 4 groups of 4, top 2 quarter finals, bottom team relegation.
•   Same procedure for the Intermediate and Junior
•   Allow teams who want to play in Junior Championship who have 2 teams play and promotion from Junior B to Junior.Sound good. If it starts mid August then by the first or second week in October it should be all over bar the shouting.
Condition:  If Cavan make it to An All Ireland Championship Quarter Final that the championship reverts to a straight knockout.

Other Options:

1.   Straight Knockout Competition
2.   Run on a league basis – 4 groups of 4.  OK
A shield final could be run for the bottom 2 in each group. NO
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on September 20, 2008, 01:08:10 PM
Was up in Breifne last night for the Shercock-Drung game.Shercock had a world of ball in the 2nd half but have to say I was
disappointed in their use of the ball.I seen them 2 years ago and the 1 thing I liked about Shercock back then was how fast they moved
the ball.You's also had some fine young fellas coming through but you's never seem to get going last night.Men in the stands were shouting for the ball to be kicked in high and long but it was coming straight back out.Drung while not looking world beaters still did what they had to and never really looked troubled in the 2nd half,which was strange considering the amount of chances Shercock had.CC1 Why wasnt Paddy McPhilips started? he kicked 2 great points when he came on and looked like the only man who could unlock the Drung defence.Your No.5 Gary Smith had a fine game but in saying that his opposite number No.15
Michael McEntee did damage also kicking 2 or 3 nice scores.
As regards the changes to League and Championship.Firstly I think its a positive step that the County Board are thinking of ways to improve the standard of football in the County.For too long structures were in place that obviously werent working.
My own club have picked 3 men to try and brainstorm some ideas and we have also contacted our neighbouring clubs to try and pool our ideas together.
The idea of 16 Senior teams seems a good idea,as it will give more players a chance to compete at a higher level.BH Man mentioned the idea of going back to the way of having groups of 3 and 4 for the Championship,personally I dont think its the way to go.While we all know about the long hard training that goes in preparation for Championship football,and 1 game is not enough for 1 summer I think Championship should b as close to knock out as we can get it.BH Man you will remember as well as Me and Homer do the year Lacken won their Intermediate in 2004,they had been beaten 3 times by Ballinagh,Ballyhaise and ourselves.No offence to Lacken or anything but I dont think that system works.
The Round Robin system in place is grand to an extent but the 1st round winners are not benefitting fron a break of 6 or 7 weeks as Ballyhaise nearly found out against Cootehill the 1st day.There has to b a tighter time limit put on these Qualifier games or we will have clubs trying to get into the Qualifiers to get a few tough games under their belt while the Q-Final opponents are like sitting ducks.
I like Homers suggestion about seeding teams for the Championship based on their League form but I dunno how clubs like Gowna who are very dependent on their County men would agree with it.But its definetley a good idea,because the way the League has gone no teams give a f**k about it(or mayb Im speaking for myself?) The attendances at some league games I played in and attended this year was dreadful.We have to generate some sort of a buzz about club football in the County again.
At the moment too many good footballers are being pulled away from our National games.Young lads are sick and tired of sacrificing so much especially in the Summer(6 or 7 weeks not drinking or going out,missing festivals,holidays etc) only to be beaten by a dodgy decision from a referee or a last minute goal.
Iv been lucky enough to win a Championship with my club and it was the best day of my life,2 years of serious training and sacrifices but at least I got a reward at the end of it all.I have to feel sorry for the lads who carry on year in,year out and never get their just rewards.Its obviously about Pride in yourself and your club and family but theres only so far that can take you without a medal.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on September 20, 2008, 03:28:11 PM
Quote from: boojangles on September 20, 2008, 01:08:10 PM
BH Man mentioned the idea of going back to the way of having groups of 3 and 4 for the Championship,personally I dont think its the way to go.While we all know about the long hard training that goes in preparation for Championship football,and 1 game is not enough for 1 summer I think Championship should b as close to knock out as we can get it.BH Man you will remember as well as Me and Homer do the year Lacken won their Intermediate in 2004,they had been beaten 3 times by Ballinagh,Ballyhaise and ourselves.No offence to Lacken or anything but I dont think that system works.

id be a fan of that system Boojangles,But i can see where you are coming from
i know the year Cuchullains won the IFC
we hammered them in one of the group games.

im not a fan of this present format,as we have been f**ked over two years going, with a 6 or 7 week break until we play the qualifier winner in the quarter final.

im also not a fan of course of straight knockout,as you said,Teams do too much training for just the possibility of one game.

As for the Championship based on seeding,Its an interesting idea,But for example the intermediate this year

How would Drumalee,Ballyhaise(at bottom of Division One  :(  ) and Lavey in Division One be seeded in comparison to the likes of Drumgoon and Redhills who are at the top of Division Two
Automatically higher due to the division????
It would probably work better with Senior as  all senior teams bar Ramor and Knockbride are in Div 1, whereas Inter and Junior Championship are comprised of Division 1,2,3 and 2,3 respectively
Interesting Suggestion though Homer.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on September 20, 2008, 03:33:38 PM
Just seen Drung 1-09 Shercock 1-04

Shercock fail to make the breakthrough yet again,

they are underachieving greatly as there lots of talent in that club.

Same as their neighbours Drumgoon, Ballinagh(up to last year) and probably ourselves to a degree.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: CC1 on September 20, 2008, 06:38:32 PM
Quote from: PhilsJemmysField on September 17, 2008, 11:31:57 AM
PROPOSED CHANGES FOR THE A.C.F.L. LEAGUE BY THE COUNTY BOARD

•   Semi Finals in all divisions - As Denn Forever has already pointed out. This means more games. The top team should be declared as the winner unless there is another team or teams on equal points. Only then should they have knock out games
•   Division 1 to 3 relegation semi finals to allow 4 games without county players (This gives clubs with county players chance to get out of relegation) - Absolutely stupid idea. Creates more games and headaches. Gaelic football is a team game and should not be influenced by individuals.
•   Rounds of league to be completed before championship starts on Master Plan - Good idea, but it has been proposed before and has never happened.


PROPOSED CHANGES FOR CHAMPIONSHIP

•   Move 2 teams from Intermediate to Senior. - Good idea. How would it work though? The two intermediate finalists promoted??
•   This leaves 16 teams – 4 groups of 4, top 2 quarter finals, bottom team relegation.  Semi finalists from previous year grade into each group. - Good idea.
•   Same procedure for the Intermediate and Junior - Good idea
•   Allow teams who want to play in Junior Championship who have 2 teams play and promotion from Junior B to Junior. - Well obviously I'm going to object to this until we're promoted ourselves! :P

Condition:  If Cavan make it to An All Ireland Championship Quarter Final that the championship reverts to a straight knockout. - Good idea. Will never happen in a million years though


Other Options:

1.   Straight Knockout Competition - I personally like the idea of a straight knock out. Others will disagree I'm sure because of lack of games and what not, but I think the championship has lost alot of its charm since they allowed a back door and group games
2.   Run on a league basis – 4 groups of 4.  A shield final could be run for the bottom 2 in each group. The groups have been done before and are a waste of time. The shield sounds even worse.



"We would appreciate your comments or any other suggestions for the format of our league and championship"

Please reply before 03rd October with views.

Thanking you.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on September 21, 2008, 11:31:45 AM
Division 1 to 3 relegation semi finals to allow 4 games without county players (This gives clubs with county players chance to get out of relegation)


Any know what Carr's opinion on keeping County players for the county and not allowing them to play in club league games?  Do other counties do this?  I would imagine that it would be better for players to play competative game rather than sit them out and only train with the county.  What are the opinions of the people on the board?

Tyrone by two. 

Ramor Denn final.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on September 22, 2008, 03:53:12 PM
Well Done Tyrone,superb team and manager.Won me 500 bucks too.Backed them at 14s and 12s 2 months ago.Crazy price in hindsight.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Hollow Man on September 22, 2008, 06:18:47 PM
QuoteWell Done Tyrone,superb team and manager.Won me 500 bucks too.Backed them at 14s and 12s 2 months ago.Crazy price in hindsight.

You should have backed it in euros, you would have made more.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on September 22, 2008, 06:21:00 PM
f**k that,the bucks currency is worth far more round Cavan town anyway.It got me well steaming last nite anyway.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on September 24, 2008, 09:30:49 AM
Seen that email with Keoghan. What a classy man. I don't believe you could ever catch Mickey Harte in that situation somehow. Unbelievable our county board gave that man our management job. Thank God it is all over now.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Babe Ruth 47 on September 24, 2008, 11:06:54 AM
Sme picture of Keoghan alright. A sorry specimen of an individual.

Looking forward to this weekends games? Seen the revised fixture schedule with the Gaels v Ramor game now on Sunday at 7:30. Any reason why its been changed from Sat. Nice and convieniet gap between the games so we can be charged in twice!

Killygarry v Gaels for me
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on September 24, 2008, 12:15:05 PM
Jasus Myles I was meant to send that to you and forgot, apologies old chap, but sure you got it in the end.

As for Keogan's end, the less said the better.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Mr. Pain on September 24, 2008, 12:39:56 PM
Libellous stuff there lads. Wanna be careful. :o
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on September 24, 2008, 01:14:24 PM
Quote from: cavanmaniac on September 24, 2008, 12:15:05 PM
Jasus Myles I was meant to send that to you and forgot, apologies old chap, but sure you got it in the end.

As for Keogan's end, the less said the better.

No worries Maniac, I forgot about it myself until a buddy of mine sent it on. Mr Pain - do you know how to paste a picture into this thread, I have a really interesting one ;)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on September 24, 2008, 01:56:02 PM
Pm me it pwleeaaaaase lads.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cornafean on September 24, 2008, 02:02:52 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on September 24, 2008, 01:56:02 PM
Pm me it pwleeaaaaase lads.

Me too please, if you don't mind. Thanks. The mind is boggling at the moment.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Mr. Pain on September 24, 2008, 02:19:08 PM
Mr. Pain is not too sure what you mean but, go on, send it through to him if you can!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on September 24, 2008, 05:22:03 PM
Ballyhaise Man, you can now change your subscript to "HELLOOOO  TOMMY" and make him feel at home.  Donal is gone, long live Donal. ;)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tierworker blue on September 25, 2008, 12:04:23 AM
I see big james has another all star nomination. I did'nt expect it this year, but fair dues. The best keeper in the country in my opinion.

(By the way, what's this Keoghan email thats doin' the rounds?...someone bang it on to me if you get the chance!)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on September 25, 2008, 02:12:28 AM
Quote from: Denn Forever on September 24, 2008, 05:22:03 PM
Ballyhaise Man, you can now change your subscript to "HELLOOOO  TOMMY" and make him feel at home.  Donal is gone, long live Donal. ;)

:)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on September 25, 2008, 09:20:58 AM
Quote from: tierworker blue on September 25, 2008, 12:04:23 AM
I see big james has another all star nomination. I did'nt expect it this year, but fair dues. The best keeper in the country in my opinion.

(By the way, what's this Keoghan email thats doin' the rounds?...someone bang it on to me if you get the chance!)

I didn't see that coming either don't think he will get it but you never know.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on September 28, 2008, 12:06:12 PM
Best of luck to all our Posters competing in the Park today.Any Predictions lads?
Im gonna go for a draw with Lavey and Ballyhaise,Killygarry to sneak to the final and as much as Id like to see 2 new teams in the Final I cant see the Gaels giving up the crown yet.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on September 28, 2008, 04:47:28 PM
Fair play to James Reilly on his all star nomination, great honour particularly given the non-season we had in the championship. Am I the only one who heard we had one nomination on the radio and thought it was Sean Johnston? Think it will be tricky enough for James to get the All Star. If theres a bit of a quota mentality brought to the pick they will take the view that Wexford are due one or two all stars and the Keeper might be in to fill one on that basis. Also no problem in satisfying Ulster's needs via Tyrone nominees.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on September 28, 2008, 10:11:32 PM
We have made the final.  Yippee!!!!

Was at all the games today.

Ballyhaise won the intermediate.  Should be a humdinger against Redhills.  Is there any love between the two teams?  I hope there has been not intense rivalry between them in the past a we want the "potentially" best and most  evenly balanced game being spoiled by settling any old scores.  Ballyhaise were slow to start but until the Lavey goal, they were cruising.  Dodgy goal as you couldn't see if the ball had crossed the line and anyway I don't think pushing the player is allowed?


As you may have gathered from above, we won the first semi final.  Was hoping that we might meet Ramor in the final but the Gaels we just too good.  Denn we awful in the first half.  Lucky to get a point with 5 minutes to go, to take the bad look off it.  Killygarry should have been well home before half time.  And missing the penalty gave me the sneaking feeling that it might be our day.  Glad we won, for Martin's sake.

Cavan Gaels won.  Was a poor game with Ramor never in it except at the start of the second half when they were going well until the second goal went in.  Both CG goals were well worked.  Sean Johnson showed why he might get a game in Australia.  Some good points and he showed his strenght in fighting for and keeping possession.

How can we beat them?  Man marking all over the field and failing that, bringing down to our level.  Pains me to say it but our only hope may be that they go out for a meal the evening before the final and suffer the way the Tottenham did a few years ago.  They seem to have great players all over the field.  Any suggestions how we might give them a game?

I wonder was Tommy Carr at any of the games today?  If he didn't have a program, he would have thought the first game was the senior game.  

I'll sign off now and dream about how we can beat CG.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on September 29, 2008, 08:27:11 AM
Quote from: Denn Forever on September 28, 2008, 10:11:32 PM
We have made the final.  Yippee!!!!

Was at all the games today.

Ballyhaise won the intermediate.  Should be a humdinger against Redhills.  Is there any love between the two teams?  I hope there has been not intense rivalry between them in the past a we want the "potentially" best and most  evenly balanced game being spoiled by settling any old scores.  Ballyhaise were slow to start but until the Lavey goal, they were cruising.  Dodgy goal as you couldn't see if the ball had crossed the line and anyway I don't think pushing the player is allowed?


As you may have gathered from above, we won the first semi final.  Was hoping that we might meet Ramor in the final but the Gaels we just too good.  Denn we awful in the first half.  Lucky to get a point with 5 minutes to go, to take the bad look off it.  Killygarry should have been well home before half time.  And missing the penalty gave me the sneaking feeling that it might be our day.  Glad we won, for Martin's sake.

Cavan Gaels won.  Was a poor game with Ramor never in it except at the start of the second half when they were going well until the second goal went in.  Both CG goals were well worked.  Sean Johnson showed why he might get a game in Australia.  Some good points and he showed his strenght in fighting for and keeping possession.

How can we beat them?  Man marking all over the field and failing that, bringing down to our level.  Pains me to say it but our only hope may be that they go out for a meal the evening before the final and suffer the way the Tottenham did a few years ago.  They seem to have great players all over the field.  Any suggestions how we might give them a game?

I wonder was Tommy Carr at any of the games today?  If he didn't have a program, he would have thought the first game was the senior game.  

I'll sign off now and dream about how we can beat CG.


Congrats to BMH and Denn Forever. Commisserations to Hollow Man.

How do you beat the gaels? Have no idea.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on September 29, 2008, 08:45:32 AM
Good to see Denn getting threw to the final they worked really hard in the second half but Killygarry should have been out of site at half time and only have themselves to blame.  Im afraid of what the Gaels will do to them in the final they destroyed Ramor last night and the game was over before half time.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on September 29, 2008, 05:41:50 PM
How do you beat the gaels?

I mitent be the best judge having never beaten the Gaels at Senior level but one thing I do remember that Mickey Graham used to say to us before we played Cavan Gaels in the League was to play football against them.That obviously sounds stupid but his point was that for years Gowna and Mullahoran have been trying to kick and box the Gaels and it has never worked,we have all seen the last few League or Championship finals where Gowna and Mullahoran have come out and tried to physically dominate the Gaels ,yet each year (bar 2006 where Mullahoran played them at their own game) who has brought home the cup?-Cavan Gaels. If you play a fast running game against them(just like they play) they arent as well suited to handle it.We played football that day and scored 15 points but we still lost by 6.Most of them of the boot of Jelly.If you can somehow stop that man you would go a long way to beating the Gaels but thats another matter altogether. Anyway Best of Luck Denn Forever.
PS Well done BH Man,you's deserve to be in the Final after all them years of trying.Remember to enjoy it,its a superb occasion but the only way to enjoy it,is to win it.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: milltown row on September 29, 2008, 05:51:56 PM
let them play Naomh Gall  ;)  good team but all teams like ourselves have their moment, just like Cross, mayobridge. 

it all comes to a close
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on September 29, 2008, 06:54:07 PM
Fortunately I don't think that we have players to compete with them physically, so we should (I know it and you know it) should try and play football against them.  Hopefully the management will hammer that point home.

What happened Ramor?  Don't know.  What was the feeling in the Ramor camp Hollowman?

CG seemed to be tuned in from the start.  Were first to the ball all over the pitch.  For the first goal you could see Forde starting his run from halfback while the play was the other side of the field. He wasn't tracked and had acres of space. Brilliant ball to find him and it almost had the look of a rehearsed move.

In order to have a chance, everyone (from No.2 to No.15) must be aware of where their man is and when CG have to ball, be tracking their man.  We will have to break the ball if we have no chance of catching.  And most importantly, don't let a CG man catch it cleanly.

If we could, play like Tyrone but we don't have the players.  If we do have a game plan that might work, I'd feel sorry for the paying public because it would be horrible to watch.  But if we won, I wouldn't give a flying............

Re last night, I didn't dream about how we could beat CG.  They were horrible dreams so in a way it could mean that we do have a game plan (see above) and we will win!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4sam on September 30, 2008, 10:51:41 AM
Boojangles, you obviously talk a lot of sense from your dealing with Mickey Graham in Drumalee and I think you are right, the best game to play against the gaels is to play good football. I know that when we beat the gaels it was by playin good open football and whenever we played them in the championship we never disgraced ourselves gettin bet by 4 points in semi 2 yrs ago. Its the only way forward when you dont have the big men to control the game physically and we certainly dont have them. They may beat you but at least it wont be a hammering. Seanie Johnston will need to be stopped though if Denn are to have any chance. Is it worth Denn wasting their best player to man mark him? Or would Denn be better off with Cahill at CHB?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on September 30, 2008, 11:46:44 AM
Sunday, 12th October 2008 @ 2pm
Hotel Kilmore Junior Championship Final
Drung v Mountnugent
Venue: Kingspan Breffni Park
Referee: Packie Smith
Linemen: Padraig Kelleher & Jim Hyland
04th Official: Brian Seagrave

Sunday, 12th October 2008 @ 4pm
Hotel Kilmore Intermediate Championship Final
Redhills v Ballyhaise
Venue: Kingspan Breffni Park
Referee: Brian Crowe
Linemen: Gerry Sheridan & Ollie Donohoe
04th Official: John Emmo

Sunday, 19th October 2008 @ 4pm
Hotel Kilmore Senior Championship Final
Denn v Cavan Gaels
Venue: Kingspan Breffni Park
Referee: M.G. Brady
Linemen: Donal Reilly & Joe McQuillan
04th Official: James Clarke
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on September 30, 2008, 06:31:45 PM
Glad to see that somebody has a bit of common sense in the County and Niall Lynch has been giving the job of trainer with the County Seniors.His record with Virginia speaks for itself. The best up and coming coach in the County and its good to see its a Cavan man.I hear word also that Peter Reilly and Ciaran Brady of Gowna have been approached about being selectors.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tierworker blue on September 30, 2008, 11:09:42 PM
Quote from: boojangles on September 30, 2008, 06:31:45 PM
Glad to see that somebody has a bit of common sense in the County and Niall Lynch has been giving the job of trainer with the County Seniors.His record with Virginia speaks for itself. The best up and coming coach in the County and its good to see its a Cavan man.I hear word also that Peter Reilly and Ciaran Brady of Gowna have been approached about being selectors.

I like the sound of all that...they have the makings of a good backroom team.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: milltown row on September 30, 2008, 11:17:56 PM
if seannie Johnstone is their main scoring threat then ya have two options, double team him like Armagh did, or cut off the supply to him, win midfield and stop low early ball into him, cover the space in front and force a high ball in, hes not the tallest of players. but if hes on the ball he'll score. is Lynng playing or injured, another outlet for them.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on October 01, 2008, 08:00:15 AM
Quote from: milltown row on September 30, 2008, 11:17:56 PM
if seannie Johnstone is their main scoring threat then ya have two options, double team him like Armagh did, or cut off the supply to him, win midfield and stop low early ball into him, cover the space in front and force a high ball in, hes not the tallest of players. but if hes on the ball he'll score. is Lynng playing or injured, another outlet for them.

If Johnston is double teamed the Gaels will have an extra man around the field and if they play their running game they will destroy Denn.  They were carrying the ball from the Full back line up the field against Ramor and getting scores.  Can't see any way that Denn will win this or even get close.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4sam on October 01, 2008, 09:23:27 AM
Good to hear that Niall Lynch has been given the job as trainer of the Cavan team, I have worked with him a few times and have to say that when I worked him was the fittest I have ever been in my life, brilliant trainer and always thinking of new things. Like the sounds of those selectors also. Seems we could finally be getting the type of backroom team we all wanted, now it will be up to the players to prove they are good enough.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on October 01, 2008, 10:26:59 AM
Quote from: cavan4sam on October 01, 2008, 09:23:27 AM
Good to hear that Niall Lynch has been given the job as trainer of the Cavan team, I have worked with him a few times and have to say that when I worked him was the fittest I have ever been in my life, brilliant trainer and always thinking of new things. Like the sounds of those selectors also. Seems we could finally be getting the type of backroom team we all wanted, now it will be up to the players to prove they are good enough.

I like the look of this set-up and its been a while since I have said that. Now it is up to the players to get the finger out and get us back to where we belong.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on October 01, 2008, 11:31:55 AM
This mite only be speculation yet lads.Niall Lynch is definetely on board but whether Ciaran Brady will leave Colmcille after winning the Longford Championship remains to be seen.I still think we mite need at least 2 more selectors who are tactically aware and not just YES men.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4sam on October 01, 2008, 12:26:32 PM
Would Ciaran Brady have to leave Colmcille to work as a selector with th Cavan team though? I would imagine he would be able to do both??
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on October 01, 2008, 12:39:55 PM
Quote from: cavan4ever on October 01, 2008, 08:00:15 AM
Quote from: milltown row on September 30, 2008, 11:17:56 PM
if seannie Johnstone is their main scoring threat then ya have two options, double team him like Armagh did, or cut off the supply to him, win midfield and stop low early ball into him, cover the space in front and force a high ball in, hes not the tallest of players. but if hes on the ball he'll score. is Lynng playing or injured, another outlet for them.

If Johnston is double teamed the Gaels will have an extra man around the field and if they play their running game they will destroy Denn.  They were carrying the ball from the Full back line up the field against Ramor and getting scores.  Can't see any way that Denn will win this or even get close.

I wouldn't advocate double teaming a la Armagh but would go for the Tyrone approach i.e. swarming the man in possession.  It may be too late for the team to learn this approch be here is hoping.  As was said CG coud play the ball from full back so if we are to do anything, all player from No. 2 to 15 will have to tackle, hastle and harry.

The key to the swarm policy is hastling without fouling.  Hard to do.  Looking at from outside the best teams can skate on the edge of fouling.

I hope that we can give them a game as they should have a competative match before the AI club championship.  It will be sad indictment of the quality of Cavan senior football if they don't give a good account of themselves in Ulster.  Has any Cavan team won the Ulster Club championship.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on October 01, 2008, 12:55:07 PM
Quote from: Denn Forever on October 01, 2008, 12:39:55 PM
Quote from: cavan4ever on October 01, 2008, 08:00:15 AM
Quote from: milltown row on September 30, 2008, 11:17:56 PM
if seannie Johnstone is their main scoring threat then ya have two options, double team him like Armagh did, or cut off the supply to him, win midfield and stop low early ball into him, cover the space in front and force a high ball in, hes not the tallest of players. but if hes on the ball he'll score. is Lynng playing or injured, another outlet for them.

If Johnston is double teamed the Gaels will have an extra man around the field and if they play their running game they will destroy Denn.  They were carrying the ball from the Full back line up the field against Ramor and getting scores.  Can't see any way that Denn will win this or even get close.

I wouldn't advocate double teaming a la Armagh but would go for the Tyrone approach i.e. swarming the man in possession.  It may be too late for the team to learn this approch be here is hoping.  As was said CG coud play the ball from full back so if we are to do anything, all player from No. 2 to 15 will have to tackle, hastle and harry.

The key to the swarm policy is hastling without fouling.  Hard to do.  Looking at from outside the best teams can skate on the edge of fouling.

I hope that we can give them a game as they should have a competative match before the AI club championship.  It will be sad indictment of the quality of Cavan senior football if they don't give a good account of themselves in Ulster.  Has any Cavan team won the Ulster Club championship.

no cavan team has ever won the Ulster Club Championship.Bailieboro made the final in 1995 but were controversially beaten by Kieran mc geeneys mullabawn
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on October 01, 2008, 02:23:47 PM
Myles and Boojangles

Thanks for your well wishes.

Denn Forever
Ourselves and Redhills do not like each other,

Our two big rivalries are Dumalee and Redhills.

They have blown away their opposition while we have struggled to an intermediate final,

Should be an interesting game.

Re the Denn/Killygarry game, most of us Haise lads left Breffini with Killygarry 0-5 0-1 up
i thought K'garry were going to annihilate Denn the way it was going,
Fair play to Denn though,
i cant see anyway of ye beating the Gaels though ,sorry DF.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on October 01, 2008, 02:34:56 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on October 01, 2008, 02:23:47 PM
Myles and Boojangles

Thanks for your well wishes.

Denn Forever
Ourselves and Redhills do not like each other,

Our two big rivalries are Dumalee and Redhills.

They have blown away their opposition while we have struggled to an intermediate final,

Should be an interesting game.



thats not a bad thing, they seem pretty confident of beating you so go out and kick lumps of them  ;D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on October 01, 2008, 03:07:40 PM
 cant see anyway of ye beating the Gaels though ,sorry DF.  

If I'm honest I can't see it either but hopefully we might give them a game so they will be ready for the club Ulster championship.  I think a cavan club team has to well in this before the county team will have something tot emulate.  Boojangles says the last cavan team to do well in it was Bailiboro in 1995.  Guess what happened in 96 and 97?

I think the best days football will be on the 12th.  Drung should have too much for Mountnugent and Ballyhaise/Redhills may be too close to call.  Hopefully it won't be too fractious!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on October 01, 2008, 05:34:16 PM
Niall Lynch as trainer

Ciaran Brady
Peter Reily as selectors.

Interesting idea,i was reading on the other thread Lynch studied Physical Education/Sports Science with Jason Ryan in Strawberry Hill
hopefully Lynch can have  an impact on Cavan like the one Ryan did with Wexford.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on October 02, 2008, 12:49:00 PM

They have blown away their opposition while we have struggled to an intermediate final,

Obviously playing yourselves down there BH Man but no harm in that. I still think you's have come through the tougher side as I thought Cootehill have improved alot and Lavey would have been my favourites along with yourselves.And thats not even mentioning your easy disposal of the mighty Drumalee :D :D :D
In hindsight I actually thought we were going alot better the year we were beaten in the final by Cuchulainns compared to the year after so I wouldnt worry too much about struggling through to the Final. At the end of the day I just think Ballyhaise will have too much experience and power for the smaller,faster Redhills team.But who knows?
Maybe The Bottom Brick will make a come back and offer us some insight into Redhils preparations???
I know he would be delighted to get on over Yours Truly if Redhills win.Myself and Himself had a difference of opinions 2 years ago when Drumalee were in the final,Thankfully we proved him wrong at the time but I doubt he's forgotten my dismissal of Redhills as a Junior club back then either.How the mighty(Drumalee) have fallen!!
Its a thin line and it shows that success is never guaranteed unless your willing to work hard.
Anyway best of Luck to all teams in the County finals and heres hoping for a humdinger in the Intermediate anyway.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on October 02, 2008, 01:50:02 PM
If you think BHM is playing down his chances look at the sly fox Denn Forever. He has us all sure Denn will be beaten so badly we they'll never want to play football again :D

I'm heading to the bookies now to put the house on them.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on October 02, 2008, 01:52:06 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on October 02, 2008, 01:50:02 PM
If you think BHM is playing down his chances look at the sly fox Denn Forever. He has us all sure Denn will be beaten so badly we they'll never want to play football again :D

I'm heading to the bookies now to put the house on them.

Good luck with that  :P
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on October 02, 2008, 01:52:58 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on October 02, 2008, 01:50:02 PM
If you think BHM is playing down his chances look at the sly fox Denn Forever. He has us all sure Denn will be beaten so badly we they'll never want to play football again :D

I'm heading to the bookies now to put the house on them.

Maybe the garden shed?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on October 02, 2008, 05:36:59 PM
Right lads Heres one,It was done on Hoganstand a few weeks back,but of course they are children!!!
im guessing between the lot of us we have seen most of these teams in action sometime this year

Every club is listed, Pick players you believe should be on the county panel next year
Should start a few arguments anyway  ;)

Arva-
Baileborough-
Ballinagh-
Ballyhaise-
Ballymachugh-
Belturbet-
Butlersbridge-
Castlerahan-
Cavan Gaels-
Cootehill-
Corlough-
Cornafean-
Cuchullains-
Crosserlough-
Denn-
Drumalee-
Drumgoon-
Drumlane-
Drung-
Gowna-
Kildallan-
Killinkere-
Kill-
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Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BigMac on October 02, 2008, 05:42:29 PM
Just stumbled across this website. A bit like hoganstand but it would seem without the childish comments. Firstly i would like to start by saying i am looking forward to Tommy Carr taking control, the situation last year was a total shambles, and although Tommy Carr isnt everyones choice, at least he has a bit of managerial experience in compared to the other buffoon last year. There is a lot of good talent coming through the underage in the last few years so hopefully Tommy will be able to work with that and give us a few more good days that we crave.
With regards the county finals, there is two obvious favorites in Drung and the Gaels, with the intermediate seemingly more open. I would love to see Mountnugent win the junior, and with Givney playnig well and Ronan Caffery back playing after a long break due to injury, they have a chance. I think everything has went well for them this year with all the players coming back at the right time. Drung, as stated would be the obvious favorites, and rightly so, its not long since they were in an intermediate semi final. With Watters playing well and Reilly in goals, they should win it.
The intermediate seems open, but i think Ballyhaise are ready to finally take the step and go up to senior. Redhills are a very good young team and they will win it soon, but i just dont think this is their year. If Ballyhaise dont win it this year they might not get another chance for a long time. They are a bit older with McCrudden and a few others nearly finishing their football. Redhills are a seriously young team with a lot of good minors coming through. I feel that ballyhaises good young footballers from a few years ago like cullivan, mc cormack, costello and pickett are ready for the big step.
As for the senior, it seems sewn up. I just cant see how Denn can topple the gaels. I dont think the gaels have even gotten into top gear yet. If they do win it, hopefully they will do something in ulster, and if denn win (unlikely in fairness), i cant see them winning a game in ulster. Would love to see them win it though. It would be great for football in the county, and for the young lads around crosskeys and there would be some session in Hairy Neds!!  :P
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on October 02, 2008, 05:45:30 PM
Welcome to the Board BigMac

Very well balanced first post aswell.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on October 02, 2008, 06:34:47 PM
Thanks for the support BigMac but I think it will CG.  Not close to the Denn team so don't know if they are working out any tactics to beat CG.  The 19th will tell the tale. 

As you suggest, CG would have the best chance in Ulster and as I have said before, a good run in the Provincial Senior club championship would really put it up to the county team!

Question: Are all the CG players natives of Cavan?  Now Donal has gone, will we see more CG players on the county panel
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on October 02, 2008, 07:43:13 PM
Cavan Gaels players on the county team next year,well from the team that hammered Ramor

Next year

Definites for Senior panel

Sean Johnston
Nicholas Walsh
Michael Lyng
Anthony Forde
Darren Rabbite(if he doesnt get injured again)

Possibly Eoin Elliot as a sub goalkeeper

i cant see any of the others being brought into the senior panel.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on October 05, 2008, 06:34:45 PM
I heard young Minagh of redhills got a straight red in the minor game against the gaels. He won't be able to play in the intermediate final now. A big loss for redhills.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on October 05, 2008, 09:41:34 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on October 05, 2008, 06:34:45 PM
I heard young Minagh of redhills got a straight red in the minor game against the gaels. He won't be able to play in the intermediate final now. A big loss for redhills.
Myles Oisin Minagh got sent off in the previous round against the Crooserlough/Ballymachugh amalgamation so he missed the Semi-Final yesterday which the Gaels won by 1 point.Mite have made the difference.
Co-incidentley Micky Lee the referee who sent Minagh off in the previous round was knocked out at the end of that match by a Ballymachugh Minor player.
Who'd wanna be a referee nowadays ha!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on October 06, 2008, 09:12:39 AM
I heard wrong obviously.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Swadman on October 08, 2008, 08:44:01 AM
Co-incidentley Micky Lee the referee who sent Minagh off in the previous round was knocked out at the end of that match by a Ballymachugh Minor player.
Who'd wanna be a referee nowadays ha![/glow]  Just to update you Bo J - It was a Crosserlough minor who hit Mickey Lee (no relation of Bruce Lee then). He got suspended by his club and Co Board gave him 96 weeks and fined C/Lough 2 grand. P.S. Mickey has bought the "Enter the Dragon" DVD and all the back catauogue of Bruceys films. ;D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4sam on October 08, 2008, 09:28:49 AM
I see the bean didn't make the International Rules panel anyway.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on October 08, 2008, 11:09:44 AM
Quote from: Swadman on October 08, 2008, 08:44:01 AM
Co-incidentley Micky Lee the referee who sent Minagh off in the previous round was knocked out at the end of that match by a Ballymachugh Minor player.
Who'd wanna be a referee nowadays ha![/glow]  Just to update you Bo J - It was a Crosserlough minor who hit Mickey Lee (no relation of Bruce Lee then). He got suspended by his club and Co Board gave him 96 weeks and fined C/Lough 2 grand. P.S. Mickey has bought the "Enter the Dragon" DVD and all the back catauogue of Bruceys films. ;D
Yes just heard that last night,It was a Crosserlough player.Crosserlough Minors have also been banned for 12 weeks.
And yes Mickey has now taken up Thai Boxing lessons-Beware!!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Hollow Man on October 08, 2008, 11:58:31 AM
This weekend's predictions:

Mountnugent to surprise Drung by 2-9 to 0-13 - big question marks over Drung full-back line, Mountnugent have great forwards and can match Drung for power. David Sheridan is a topping defender and he may be able to handle Watters, that remains to be seen...

Redhills to beat Ballyhaise by 1-14 to 0-13 - just think Ballyhaise will struggle for scores.

Should be two good tight games though...

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4sam on October 08, 2008, 12:49:25 PM
HM you say you think both games this weekend will be tight yet you have predicted Mountnugent to beat Drung 2-19 to 0-13 thats a margin of 12 points. I don't think there will be 12 points of a difference in it. I think Drung should be too strong for Mountnugent and I think the other match is too hard to call but should be interesting considering its a local derby.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Hollow Man on October 08, 2008, 01:18:51 PM
Shit sorry I meant 2-9 to 0-13 I'll change that now
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on October 08, 2008, 01:26:39 PM
96 weeks ban, Hope Mickey is alright after his assault.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Hollow Man on October 08, 2008, 01:54:21 PM
QuoteHope Mickey is alright after his assault.

Whatever you're into...
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on October 08, 2008, 02:01:30 PM
C4ever

how are the preparations for the Final going?  ;)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on October 08, 2008, 02:25:07 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on October 08, 2008, 02:01:30 PM
C4ever

how are the preparations for the Final going?  ;)

All seems is going well.
Nobody getting to exicted you wouldn't know the club were in a final atall.
Everything is very low key.  I think you will have the majority of the Drung support on your side on sunday Redhills aren't well liked up our way.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on October 08, 2008, 02:35:12 PM
Cheers for that C4ever
Hope myself Drung win the Junior Championship

Would be Good to see the likes of Ciaran Galligan,Barry Watters,Miller,Alan Curran(who ive heard has been outstanding this year) etc back playing at Intermediate level(although hopefully we wont be there next year  :P )
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on October 08, 2008, 02:40:02 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on October 08, 2008, 02:35:12 PM
Cheers for that C4ever
Hope myself Drung win the Junior Championship

Would be Good to see the likes of Ciaran Galligan,Barry Watters,Miller,Alan Curran(who ive heard has been outstanding this year) etc back playing at Intermediate level(although hopefully we wont be there next year  :P )

Its the worst year that he has had in a long time.  He was lucky not to be taken off after 10 mins in the semi final but on his day can be very good. 

Sent u a pm BHman
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on October 08, 2008, 02:46:25 PM
Quote from: cavan4ever on October 08, 2008, 02:40:02 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on October 08, 2008, 02:35:12 PM
Cheers for that C4ever
Hope myself Drung win the Junior Championship

Would be Good to see the likes of Ciaran Galligan,Barry Watters,Miller,Alan Curran(who ive heard has been outstanding this year) etc back playing at Intermediate level(although hopefully we wont be there next year  :P )

Its the worst year that he has had in a long time.  He was lucky not to be taken off after 10 mins in the semi final but on his day can be very good. 

Sent u a pm BHman

Jaysus my information is bad so  :D, i was told he was playing great stuff.

Reply sent.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on October 08, 2008, 02:48:44 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on October 08, 2008, 02:46:25 PM
Quote from: cavan4ever on October 08, 2008, 02:40:02 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on October 08, 2008, 02:35:12 PM
Cheers for that C4ever
Hope myself Drung win the Junior Championship

Would be Good to see the likes of Ciaran Galligan,Barry Watters,Miller,Alan Curran(who ive heard has been outstanding this year) etc back playing at Intermediate level(although hopefully we wont be there next year  :P )

Its the worst year that he has had in a long time.  He was lucky not to be taken off after 10 mins in the semi final but on his day can be very good. 

Sent u a pm BHman

Jaysus my information is bad so  :D, i was told he was playing great stuff.

Reply sent.

Mickey McEntee is having a great year.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on October 08, 2008, 02:50:56 PM
Mickey McEntee is well deserving of at least a trial for the county at Cornerback or wing back.
He plays midfield for Drung though doesnt he?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on October 08, 2008, 02:53:34 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on October 08, 2008, 02:50:56 PM
Mickey McEntee is well deserving of at least a trial for the county at Cornerback or wing back.
He plays midfield for Drung though doesnt he?

Corner forward but roams out the field.  He could play anywhere from 1-15.  He prob should get a trial but he is to one-footed and that wouldn't go well at county level.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on October 08, 2008, 02:58:39 PM
whats the reckoning on David Givney as a future County Player???
Been Impressed with him the once ive seen him this year.
Hard to believe he was left off the county minor team last year isnt it  ::)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on October 08, 2008, 09:15:10 PM
Im not gonna rock the boat too much and Im gonna go for a narrow Drung win over Mountnugent.David Gibney will take stopping but a few raps from Ronan Crowe inc mite soften his cough a bit.I only seen Drung once and I was impressed with Michael McEntee in his roaming role.Ciaran Galliagn and Barry Watters will have to step up on the big day and show what we know they are capable of.Barry Watters was very selfish in the semi-final and he will have to keep the head up alot more if he is playing on the 40 again.I cant speak about Gibney as County material as Iv only seen him once but I heard great things about him such as an expert eye for a goal.Im sure he has potential and could be worked on but at the end of the day he's been racking up scores against Junior teams and he didnt make the County Under 21 team last year so he mite have a bit to go yet.
In the other final Im gonna have to go for Ballyhaise.The key man here is of course one Ray Cullivan.I dont think Redhills have anybody of the calibre close to marking Cullivan and with Barry McCrudden beside him it should definetely swing Midfield in Ballyhaises favour.If Ballyhaise can control that vital area and get the better ball into their forwards who in my opinion are better as a unit then Ballyhaises long wait should b over.
Ballyhaise on paper have the better outfit,I dont think anybody can question that but alot of it will come down to how Ballyhaises back line manages with Redhills forwards.Paddy Gumley is dangerous but as a small man he needs the right type of ball every time.They have been free scoring most of the year and Breifne Park will suit them but finals arent known for great open football but more about who is willing to work and tackle and put their body on the line and for them reasons Im gonna go for the more experienced and physically stronger Ballyhaise team to win by 3 points.
On a different note Id just like to ask SwadMan if he is reading what he makes of the current situation with the Intermediate Relegation play-off? At this stage I think its gone beyond a joke.Killinkere should be ashamed and embarrassed at holding up a competition for 5 weeks.The Bottom Line is Killinkere did not win a game in the Intermediate Championship or Qualifiers,the same as Drumalee,Laragh and Swanlinbar and therefore how they think they should be exempt from a relegation play-off baffles me.
I dont give a damn if it wasnt ratified properly at a County Board meeting or if Mark Gillick pushed it through himself or if Castlerahan got away with it last year,Killinkere if they had any decency would put a halt to all this Ulster Council or Croke Park appeal shit and let the games go ahead.Killinkere should be in the relegation play-off and if they are I sure as well hope we get to play them.
RANT OVER
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tierworker blue on October 08, 2008, 11:15:19 PM
Howdy folks,
two things...
1. what do y'all think of our championship draw?
2. does anyone have a copy of the all ireland final they might be able to burn off for me? (if so pm me)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Swadman on October 08, 2008, 11:59:36 PM
QuoteThe current situation with the Intermediate Relegation play-off?
I agree with you B J to a point, This has dragged on to the point of absurdity. 3 teams have been hanging around since early August with no ball played in League or C/ship. Its a joke, I cant blame Killinkere too much for digging their heels in. C.B left the loophole there. I would have thought a swifter decision by Ulster Council would have been forthcoming and if/when its made (whichever way it goes)  do we have to wait for it to be batted up to Croke Park for an appeal ? This could really drag on into next year. There is a solution that would suit all sides. Promote the Junior winners, no team relegated from Intermediate this year. This would leave an even amount of teams in it for next year (no bye in 1st round, the cause of the problem) 
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on October 09, 2008, 12:37:03 PM
Cavan seem to have done alright in the draw by my reckoning.

Avoiding the big guns is a major and obvious bonus. Depending on the progress we make in the next few months you'd have to hope we will be at least competitive in that side of the draw. It should give a newly reformed and refocused panel of players something to target and work towards instead of looking ominously at the horizon all year before a date with Armagh or Tyrone or whoever. The minors can feel similarly as well, if they're as well marshalled as this year, a year off from routine last-minute defeats to Tyrone et al will do them the world of good.

Happy enough for now.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Mr. Pain on October 09, 2008, 12:45:05 PM
Quote from: boojangles on October 08, 2008, 09:15:10 PM
RANT OVER

Mr. Pain has been in Tokyo, Japan for the last 3 weeks participating in a martial arts competition but has returned to find his former nemises Boojangles using his catchphrase "Rant over!". Mr. Pain will try to educate Boojanges as to what a rant actually is. Taken from the Oxford Dictionary (which Mr. Pain wrote by the way):

rant

  • verb speak or shout at length in a wild, impassioned way.

  • noun a spell of ranting.

  — DERIVATIVES ranter noun.

  — ORIGIN Dutch ranten 'talk nonsense, rave'.

In conclusion Mr. Pain would advise Boojangles to come up with his own catchphrase or signature finale to a post. Mr. Pain even suggests you come up with one, perhaps, in relation to your namesake Bill "Bojangles" Robinson (a wonderful tapdancer). This assumes you didn't coincidentally come up with the name yourself. So, dance the night away Boojangles and Mr. Pain will look forward to your choice. RANT OVER!

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: shotstopper1 on October 09, 2008, 01:27:46 PM
Two interesting finals ahead of us on Sunday,to be honest can't see Mountnugent troubling Drung on Sunday,but sure you never know,seen Drung one year in Div 1 being beat in the Intermediate final by Castlerahan in Div 3.Mountnugent though haven't done much in the championship so far to suggest they'll be winners,they were beat twice (by Shercock and Kildallan) and had victories over BBridge,Shannon Gaels & Tport (they beat both SG &TP in the league and were bet by a point by the Bridge) which suggests that they haven't really improved all that much during the Championship.
The Intermediate is harder to call,Div 1 strugglers Ballyhaise against Div 2 promotion hopefuls Redhills.If Bhaise can stay with Redhills for the first 15-20 mins then the game could be theirs.Of the games so far Redhills have shown the more firepower wheras Bhaise find it hard to get scores,especially goals.On the other hand Ballyhaise would have the better defence,if they can hold Rocky & Gumley it could go their way.Minagh will be a big loss as an attacking wing back,and Redhills would then have to rely on two minors in Leddy and Callan for their scores.If Bhaise shade the centrefield area, which I think they will with Cullivan and McCrudden,then I think Tierney Pickett etc will do enough for a Ballyhaise victory.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on October 09, 2008, 01:37:01 PM
Quote from: Mr. Pain on October 09, 2008, 12:45:05 PM
Quote from: boojangles on October 08, 2008, 09:15:10 PM
RANT OVER

In conclusion Mr. Pain would advise Boojangles to come up with his own catchphrase or signature finale to a post. Mr. Pain even suggests you come up with one, perhaps, in relation to your namesake Bill "Bojangles" Robinson (a wonderful tapdancer). This assumes you didn't coincidentally come up with the name yourself. So, dance the night away Boojangles and Mr. Pain will look forward to your choice. RANT OVER!


It was in part homage to yourself Mr.Pain that I used that sign-off,everybody on this thread associates it with you,Id never dare steal it!!
As regards my namesake Boojangles,its actually the name of the Niteclub in one of my favourite films,Chopper.A factual Austrailian film about a serial killer (Mark 'Chopper' Reid) played by Eric Bana, who gained notoriety due to the fact he never was convicted of Murder,even after killing 18 people.He went on to write 6 Best selling books about his experiences.And as he says himself-'I CANT EVEN SPELL''

Swad Man thats a good point you make but I dunno if the County Board would see it that way.I believe that if Killinkere are successful in their appeal that Laragh are going to object which will hold it up even more.We'l b lucky if its sorted this side of Xmas if thats the case, which is frustrating.We have had a nightmare year and the sooner we can put it behind us the better.This sort of thing dragging on doesnt encourage players to keep training.In fact 7 or 8 of our Senior team are now playing competitive soccer,which cant be a good thing for the GAA in my opinion.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Swadman on October 10, 2008, 08:08:45 AM
QuoteQuote from: boojangles on October 08,  7 or 8 of our Senior team are now playing competitive soccer,which cant be a good thing for the GAA
maybe not in the long term but at least they are keeping fit. I presume they would be available for ye whenever this fiasco gets resolved. Our guys are in "Winter hibernation mode" mentally anyway. Where do they play soccer and what is the soccer season in Cavan now? It used to be a winter sport which I always thought was strange. Why play a game, which is best played "on the deck", in a time when the ground conditions are at their worst. Though I suppose the GAA could be accused of the same, by the time the leagues and our relegation final is played.......
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on October 10, 2008, 10:29:10 AM
Quote from: cavanmaniac on October 09, 2008, 12:37:03 PM
Cavan seem to have done alright in the draw by my reckoning.

Avoiding the big guns is a major and obvious bonus. Depending on the progress we make in the next few months you'd have to hope we will be at least competitive in that side of the draw. It should give a newly reformed and refocused panel of players something to target and work towards instead of looking ominously at the horizon all year before a date with Armagh or Tyrone or whoever. The minors can feel similarly as well, if they're as well marshalled as this year, a year off from routine last-minute defeats to Tyrone et al will do them the world of good.

Happy enough for now.


Ah feckit Maniac you're surpassing yourself altogether this time, usually we leave it until the Anglo Celt has reported the first cuckoo of spring before somebody put's the hex on our up and coming minor prospects. We've done our bit with routine last minute defeats to Down and Derry over the years too now that I remember it. Being serious, I know where you're coming from and there is a chance for these lads to focus over the winter on possibly winning a game or two. Is this the lot the opted out of the Manning Cup and competed in Ulster at Under 16 level, if so will be interesting to see how that has worked.

Some soft side of the draw for the seniors all right, only in Ulster. We await the defeated provincial finalists from last year or a team that beat the All Ireland Champs over two games. Get over that and the 06 League champions might await. Bet our Kerry friends are happy enough not to be dealing with that sort of snake pit every year.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on October 10, 2008, 11:12:36 AM
Quote from: anglocelt39 on October 10, 2008, 10:29:10 AM
Some soft side of the draw for the seniors all right, only in Ulster. We await the defeated provincial finalists from last year or a team that beat the All Ireland Champs over two games. Get over that and the 06 League champions might await. Bet our Kerry friends are happy enough not to be dealing with that sort of snake pit every year.

Er yes, well when you put it like that it kinda changes the outlook alright. There are no easy games at this level Marty.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on October 10, 2008, 11:46:35 AM
You're right in your analysis though, we should have enough to be competitive against Fermanagh/Down and who knows. A win in that, a good performance in the next round, a win in the qualifiers would be a START of what will need to be a three year plan. Would like to see Under 21's getting a bit of attention as well.

Tommy has winter to find a midfield partnership, apart from Catherina McKiernan, was there any tall/rangy sportsperson from inside the County that DK did not try out in that position during his two year tenure?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on October 10, 2008, 12:50:38 PM
Quote from: anglocelt39 on October 10, 2008, 11:46:35 AM
You're right in your analysis though, we should have enough to be competitive against Fermanagh/Down and who knows. A win in that, a good performance in the next round, a win in the qualifiers would be a START of what will need to be a three year plan. Would like to see Under 21's getting a bit of attention as well.

Tommy has winter to find a midfield partnership, apart from Catherina McKiernan, was there any tall/rangy sportsperson from inside the County that DK did not try out in that position during his two year tenure?

In my opinion he tried no one out. He threw lads in for 20 minutes and then took them off again. We need to give these new lads a chance to find their feet. Not punish them for struggling to make the jump to intercounty football. The draw is as kind as it could be to us but everyone on our side of the draw is thinking the same. it is a pity last years minors didn't get this draw or we could be in an Ulster final. Hopefully we'll see a good crop come through this year too.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on October 10, 2008, 03:27:26 PM
Ah...the mythical Cavan midfielder. Some say he does not exist, but...

I don't see much club football now to be honest but anything like a decent midfielder in Cavan would be heard about two mins after catching one high ball in a Junior match as far away as a small cave high in the Andes, so not having seen any smoke signals for a while I can only assume the situation is bleak. These smoke signals were last seen for the likes of Charlie Clarke from Baileboro, Jimmy Magee's favourite Cavan midfielder never to make it. Loved a bit of Charlie, did our Jimmy. Not that way though, obviously, although it would make for an entertaining edition of Sunday Sport all the same. Charlie had prospects now, and many touters for sure, but alas, had infinitely more cows that needed milking and was never heard of after his initial blossoming. Quickly followed, of course, by Fergus Reilly of Killinkere who looked promising too and spiky to boot, which he was fond of, before disappearing for unexplained reasons. He was replaced by an imported Corkman from Duhallow who was minding the gym at the Slieve Russell and was at a loose end, his name eludes me but I'll live on the edge and hazard a guess by saying he was Something Murphy. He lined out in a first round Ulster defeat under Val Andrews and looked good but went back to Cork for reasons unsought, before turning up for the first round of championship the year after, when he looked bad. That was the end of him.

I'm not going to say anything about Jamie Coffey. The grief, it seems, is still too near.

Pearse McKenna, now, was something of an enigma, first trialled under the fateful stewardship of Liam "I'd bought them all beanie hats, you know" Austin. Dermot McCabe, post 9-7, was in his full pomp and ceremony back then however. And so, pompously and without ceremony, Dermo edged Pearse away from the scene by simply showing the poor man no love at all, despite the latter's blood sacrifice in Tullamore after getting his teeth knocked out by an Offaly man, who, in fairness, have always done a fair line in amateur dentistry. All allegedly. Pearse would make a return in later years under Eamon Coleman and made a fine contribution only truly recognised by us, the great and the good, now that we have absolutely nobody to make any contribution whatever, fine or otherwise. In truth though, who can forget the mere breeze of his hammerhand knuckles crippling and felling Francie 'The Oaken Heart' Bellew at Clones? Sure with superpowers like that, imagine what he'd have done to Darragh O'Se? Cracked off a fart and turned the poor divil inside out, I'll wager.

Barry McCrudden was briefly a star as we went on a coruscating run to the 2001 Ulster final under the laconic Dub Andrews, and even sustained a subcutaneous haemotoma in the run up to the big game which would have had us all talking but sure we could barely pronounce it never mind spell it. Barry shuffled off soon after and was never heard of again despite turning in a few decent displays. Ah, it's truly the truth, that the good go first.

Thankfully, next unto the breach of our dizzy hopes and dreams stepped returning Aussie starlet Nicholas Walsh, who has had his moments in fairness - most of them on the physio table or, ahem, chewing the fat with Sean Cavanagh, but we do love him for THAT hang in the air jump that makes us all blink twice and wonder what was in the previous night's beer, hallucinogenic frogs? If only because the pints were in the Imperial though. Nicholas, all the same, is now the flawed anti-hero in possession it would seem, with Dermot ensconced on the edge of the square, caged, angry and railing at the Gods because Martin Cahill won't kick it next nor near him.

A staggering cast of hopefuls have trooped through the parade ring in recent times but all suffered the indignity of not even acquiring the status of potential-but-doomed-to-failure-great-white-hope before exiting stage left to embarrassing chuckles up sleeves. Maguire from Lavey, Donal Thomas, Michael McDonald (twice in the one day, surely a record), Declan Gaffney and Dermot Sheridan have all taken a turn in the pumphouse, but all have leaked water and in the battle to sink or swim, were all but drowned.

At least Paddy Brady had the sense to get injured, but heaven help us that he did, for now we all look to Lorcan Mulvey to step up to the plate. And I think Lorcan won't disappoint in that regard.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on October 10, 2008, 04:08:32 PM
Epic Maniac Epic. Slow news day? Bewildering list of names there and you ain't even scratched the surface of the last two years I reckon-Cunningham, Jonny Crowe, Mckeever, didn't the lad from Mullagh get a gallop at some stage I'm getting dizzy now.

Back to the late 70's and we very much went for the bigger is better approach-Ollie Leddy and Ciaran O Keefe are two names that spring to mind. Ciaran was cursed from an early stage when Micheal O Muir@$@$@ dubbed him the next Mick O Connell after St Pat's won the hogan cup in Croker. Work took him to England where, unfortunately, the lad seemed to winter quite well before being flown home for first round of the championship. Fielding was never a problem, getting around the pitch tended to be a different matter. Different times.

On a serious note for a moment Mckenna became a good midfielder but it took serious time for him to develop into that which in turn get's back to Myles' point regarding the way players were brought in and discarded over the last two years, not the way to build up a lad's confidence I agree.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on October 10, 2008, 04:29:31 PM
You missed out on Cathal Collins for god's sake
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on October 10, 2008, 04:42:55 PM
Quote from: anglocelt39 on October 10, 2008, 04:29:31 PM
You missed out on Cathal Collins for god's sake

Ah Jesus, and he the subject of my favourite story after an seasoned observer saw him in his first intercounty game and remarked:

"They shot the wrong Collins."

Damn and blast. Ach sure it wasn't bad working from memory, funny how you remember the older/obscure ones and not the current generation.

And yes, it's a slow Friday!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on October 10, 2008, 05:15:22 PM
To be fair i also remeber Collins doing a good job at corner back on Mark Stanfield of Louth  and Stephen Maguire of Fermanagh under Mattie Kerrigans reign,While he was never a county midfielder,He wasnt a donkey by any means.

Ahh the Cavan County Midfielder,Great discussion lads
Pre 1997 we had the enigma that was Charlie Clarke, Often magnificant for Baileborough(seen him destroy McCabe in many a game)yet with the exception of his debut against Cork in 96 never made it,oh well

where do we start After the glorious year of 1997
From 98

a very promising but light Pierce McKenna shows up under Liam Austin,Then disappears only to show up a few years later(2002 i believe),after adding about a stone in Solid Mass and became a Very Serviceable Inter County Midfielder

From 99 -00 we had
Fergus Reily of Killinkere,dont think Bold Fergus is even playing Club anymore.

Paul Murphy the corkman,Where in gods name did he come out of.

Jamie Coffey,Still playing great stuff in London to this day  ;)

2001
Big Baz McCrudden,
Oustanding League and Championship in 2001, Outstanding Ulster Final, Had a nightmare in the qualifier against Derry though, and was never the same for the county after that.

2002 under Mattie Kerrigan saw the re-emergence of Pierce McKenna alongside Cathal Collins in a new look midfield,Didnt half look bad in the league destroying the Rossies vaunted Seamie O Neil and co,

Flopped against Tyrone,Donegal and Limerick though.

2003
seen
Sean Maguire alongside Dermot McCabe against Antrim
with Paddy Brady as a third midfielder

Sean caught the first ball of the game,then was replaced at half time
Paddy Brady was also replaced.

Pierce McKenna and Paddy Brady made up the midfield duo against Louth, and done quite well

what happened against Fermanagh, only God knows.

2004
under wee Eamon
cant remember what midfield started against Down,Could have been Collins and McKenna

we ended up though with Shane Cole and Trevor Crowe manning centre-field against Derry when we decided not to play Extra time.

2005
Seen the emergence of Nicholas Walsh into the scene, Will we ever forget his welcome that he extended to Sean Kavanagh.

McCabe and McKenna manned centrefield in the qualifier wins over Meath and Donegal,

Midfield was absent against Mayo in the "game of the century"

2006

i dont think we even want to think about 2006.

2007
Paul Grimley,Donal Keoghan,Julie Davis and co

Lorcan Mulvey,Donal Thomas welcome to the fore,

they did look good against Derry in the McKenna cup though.

2008
Michael McDonald,John Cunningham,Declan Gaffney,Lorcan Mulvey,Eugene Keating,Raymond Galligan

no more needs to be said.

The career expectancy of a Cavan Midfielder  
(Apologies for the other 10 lads i probably left out)  :D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on October 10, 2008, 07:02:28 PM
One that wasn't mentioned and is still a possibility is Galligan of Drung. Will be interesting to see him when the relatively small chips are down on Sunday. A fair size of a man with injuries behind him (hopefully) he could be worth at least a trial. Did Tierney ever have a go i lar na pairce? And let's not forget Enda "c'mon the f**k lads, c'mon the f**k, lads, pick it up. c'mon lads" King. And yes Mr. Keating (?) from Cuchullains has the unfortunate honour(!) of being the last of the list that DK tried when he lined out against Kildare.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on October 10, 2008, 07:10:57 PM
Ah Cavans Midfielders,nearly brings a tear to my eye.Paddy Brady the great hope,don't think he ever recovered from the injury he got Down Under representing Ireland Under 17s.John Tierney is another one who looked destined for Midfield greatness. No mention of Micky Brennan??? Played alot more than Donal Thomas or Cunningham around the middle.Him and Nicholas Walsh seemed to play well together.Playing midfield for Simonstown now.
I believe that the Ulster Council upheld Kilinkeres appeal at their monthly meeting last night.So its down to 3 now.I hear that these play-offs are fixed for the Bank Holiday weekend, Why the f**k that couldnt have been done a month ago I dont know.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on October 10, 2008, 07:27:08 PM
Larry of Canningstown, believe me young Enda didn't lick if off the Ground. Big Daddy was drafted into the Midfield in the 78 Ulster final against Down and his first act was to batter Liam Austin in the ribs with the closed fist about ten times, no attempt to connect with the round object at all. Would qualify as attempted assault and battery under the current rules. Austin kind of rubbed his ribs, lauged it off, Down kicked lumps out of us and the rest is history.

Big daddy's encounter with an umbrella weilding lady the day after a County final between Laragh and Bailieborough Shamrocks (1980ish) is the stuff of East Cavan legend to this day.

absolutely no personal criticism intended on my part anyway of any of the many potential midfielders named in the last few posts, it's just incredible when you look back at how many have been tried out, obscure Cavan midfielders is bound to be a Mastermind specialist topic sometime soon.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Swadman on October 10, 2008, 08:07:05 PM
Obscure list indeed. Swad hockeyed Mulahoran in the Junior Championship in  '98 (they were going for the double, having secured the Senior) Damien Prior was asked into the county setup and played 10 mins at the end of some qualifier game. Swad played 4 or 5 league games without him that year because, after all, he WAS on the County Panel.

Bo - Lets see what happens now after Killinkere were reprieved. It will be interesting to see what, if anything, can delay the first game which is fixed for Sat 25th. Dont know yet who gets to sit out the 1st one. Let me know how your minors do on Sat in the championship Semi final. I saw them v our lot and they have some good prospects, some lad called "cookie" or "cokey" looked to be one for the future for ye. I think he was the Captain.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on October 11, 2008, 06:16:04 PM
Quote from: Swadman on October 10, 2008, 08:07:05 PM
Bo - Lets see what happens now after Killinkere were reprieved. It will be interesting to see what, if anything, can delay the first game which is fixed for Sat 25th. Dont know yet who gets to sit out the 1st one. Let me know how your minors do on Sat in the championship Semi final. I saw them v our lot and they have some good prospects, some lad called "cookie" or "cokey" looked to be one for the future for ye. I think he was the Captain.
The Draw will be made for that Relegation play-off on Monday nite,It will b interesting to see will it b held up more.
Our Minor match was called off because of the pitch last night,Was fixed for Ballyhaise.They probly need it more today and in the morning I suppose.
Young Cokie the Captain,His name is Patrick Colton,great footballer and great attitude all we need for him now is to grow.Laragh Minors should be tough,We have a few weak links in the backline but we mite pull it off.Game fixed for next Saturday instead.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on October 11, 2008, 10:03:07 PM
alright lads

2 hours until the biggest day in my club football career.

Want to thank all ye for your well wishes.

Also want to wish C4ever and Drung the best of luck,while i wont see the game,Il surely be in your corner.

if we lose il be back wednesday or Thursday sometime hungover to face the music.

If we win i should be back by next week in some state, if not Boojangles can call the gardai and report me missing :P

Hope ye all enjoy the games tommorow.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on October 11, 2008, 11:51:36 PM
Hope yas do it BH Man,You's are surely due it anyway.Redhills are favourites in the Bookies which pleased me,€50 on Ballyhaise at 5/4 great value in my eyes.
All Il say to ya BH Man is No Regrets-because you never know when you'l b back there again.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: PhilsJemmysField on October 12, 2008, 07:10:49 PM
Killinkere won the appeal against the county board changing the rules of the Intermediate competition in September. From talking to our secretary it was no contest down with the Ulster Council. We all know this is a killer, but from our side as a club we have turned over too many times for the county board. Best of luck to all of you in the relegation. The way we are going we will end up back in it sometime soon anyway. No big triumph from Killinkere. Great to see that Fergus Iggy O'Reilly still getting a mention we could do with him back
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Hollow Man on October 12, 2008, 08:34:57 PM
Congratulations to Drung, much the better team on the day. Ciaran Galligan and Barry Watters were excellent, Galligan has a serious engine and Watters drives at the opposition every time he gets the ball.

Watters is a hardy bit of stuff, he gets serious punishment on the field but that's the way he plays and he's well fit for it.

Mountnugent were disappointing, they didn't threaten apart from Givney and I thought they maybe could have moved David Sheridan on to Watters from the start. I honestly felt Mountnuegnt would have taken Drung but they had upped it a lot from the Shercok game and were totally deserving winners.

Also well done to Redhills, they were ten points the better side I thought but missed some absolute sitters. The Ballyhaise forward line, with the exception of Costello, were brutal against what was a dodgy enough Redhills defence.

Redhills ruled the midfield and that ensured a steady flow to Gumley, Wests, Packie Leddy etc who made hay, with most of their scores coming from play. Aprat from Cullivan and Costello, every Ballyhaise player lost their own battle I felt and they should have been beaten by more - they had basically a four point headstart given their amazing opening three minutes and they kicked a late consolation when the game was over, without those scores it would have been eight points which I thought would have been more like the margin between the teams on the day.

Hard luck BH Man and Boojangles - 5/4 doesn't look so tasty now!

Now for the big one...
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on October 13, 2008, 08:58:49 AM
Hard luck to BHM. Wasn't at the game but the brother was and he tells me redhills were well deserving of their win. They have come along way over the past few years. When were they last a senior club? Ballyhaise will come again next year I'm sure. Well done to Drung too.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on October 13, 2008, 01:41:13 PM
Agree with most of hat Hollow Man says. The junior game was a little embaressing for Mountnugent. The gulf in class was huge. Ciaran Galligan never got out of first gear and still dominated while I don't think I've ever seen a man get as bad a roasting as Watters gave Kearney. I'd love to see the stats as the amount of wides Drung kicked and the amount that Mountnugent didn't give the scoreline a healthier scoreline than Mountnugent deserved.

Very impressesed with Redhills once they had the ball in their hands. They reminded me of last year's Killeshandra team the way they supported from wing-back and they executed the basic skill of kick-passing to chest superbly. Dunne had a fine first half even if he faded a bit in the second half and I think they have a star in the making in Packie Leddy. Was he on the county minors? I seem to remember two Redhills boys against Tyrone but not sure the names.

I thought Ballyhaise had a good spell in the second half when they moved McCormack out around the middle but the amout of unforced errors they made was unforgiveable none more so than when they got back within two points with about five to go only to give possession away and send Colin Reilly through for a point.

All in all an enjoyable afternoon in the sun. I think I'll give next Sunday a miss.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on October 13, 2008, 04:54:35 PM
My hands are up,I got the Intermediate wrong.I really felt that Ballyhaise had a big game in them and as Hollow said,Redhills backline was there for the taking but apart from Eamon Costello and Cullivan in the 2nd half (Colm Reilly to a lesser extent) Id struggle to pick anyone else out that did themselves justice.Poor Sucker(Brendan Lyons) wasnt at the races and was at fault for at least 2 scores.
I know its probly not nice for anyone to hear BH Man but I watched you's warm-up and I have to say I really feared for yas from what I seen.The warm up was like one you'd see for a challenge match.Too lethargic,no intensity.I feel sorry for Gerry O Rourke to lose another final as a manager but I really have to question his tactics or lack of them in this case.How Conor Lyons stayed on the field for the full game baffled me.Sean McCormack looked lost at full back and gave Paddy Gumley far too much room.Michael Rooney the same.Barry McCrudden basic skills let him down.
You's were crying out for a real ball-winner like Cullivan at Full-forward,Pickett and Tierney may have worked inside then.The only men who ran at Redhills and opened them up was Costello and Cullivan in the 2nd half,Redhills back line was weak but you's didnt test it near enough.
The difference in the 2 teams was Redhills work rate,they really seemed to want it more.They hassled and made things difficult for Ballyhaise ,never giving them time to settle.
Paddy Gumley who was superb,Packie Leddy and Rocky(Colin Reilly) got the important scores but the work rate of the 2 Wests Pierce and Ciaran was superb.They ran and ran and ran,leaving more room in the forward line for the danger men to do the scoring.
Don't take that the wrong way BH Man,Im sure you's will be back.They say you have to Lose one to Win one.But I don't think you's will get a better chance than you's had yesterday.
Anyway drown your sorrows BH Man and count yourselves lucky that you's arent staring Junior football straight in the face. :'( :'( :'(
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on October 13, 2008, 07:57:18 PM
Hard luck BH Man and Boojangles - 5/4 doesn't look so tasty now


Amazing how often the odds on offer take on a different perspective after the event. Tomorrow's newspaper today is indeed top of any punter's wish list.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Hollow Man on October 13, 2008, 09:47:56 PM
True.

I tought Mountnugent were great value and they imploded. On the other hand, anyone who saw Redhills in the earlier rounds and saw Ballyhaise and then tipped the Haise to win it... I just can't figure out the logic there.

Redhills scored a minimum of 2-12 per game in their three games apparently, Ballyhaise's highest score was 1-7 in four matches I think.

The again, we were running up big totals till we met the Gaels :'(

You won't win a championship with scoring totals like that. Against a weak Redhills defence they only got 1-8 yesterday and they were handed the goal on a plate in the first two minutes.

Boojangles, when is your date with destiny?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on October 14, 2008, 08:31:40 AM
Hard luck Ballyhaiseman.  You were beat by the better team but a bit more composure in front of goal and things could have been different.  It's your first final in a whilie and hopefully it will not be too long till you are back again.  Heard some bad stories about the antics of redhills supporters in the nights before the game, its no wonder there not well liked.

As for the Junior final it was a serious mis-match, Drung never looked like losing it.  Watters and Galligan was excellant through out the whole game and neither of them got any protection from the referee.  Galligan had to go to hospital after the game with concussion after a elbow to the head off the ball.  It Mountnugent had of tried to play a bit of football instead of trying to break lads in two they might have made a better game of it.  Givney looks like a decent enough football but was well marked by Alan Curran who had a great game and kicked a lovely point. 

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on October 14, 2008, 07:19:59 PM
Hollow,My logic behind thinking Ballyhaise would win was that Ballyhaise are a Division 1 team the last 4 years,they had beaten 2 Division 1 teams to get to the final,IMO Redhills a Division 2 team had beaten poor enuf opposition.Ballyhaise had struggled through the rounds to get to the final and looked primed for a big game.
Redhills looked like they may have peaked too soon.I was obviously wrong.
The draw for the Intermediate Relegation was made last night. Laragh V Swanlinbar Saturday 25th October.The Losers play Drumalee on the 1st of November. Last chance saloon for the Lilywhites,the way our year has gone it couldnt have been any other way.
Cavan4 Ever what were your views on Man of the Match? While I felt Barry Watters had played well I really felt that Alan Curran deserved the award considering the job he did on Mountnugents danger man,but also in his use of the ball and that wonderful point.IMO as I have seen too many times in this county-the people selecting it just go for the County man because everybody recognises him and nobody would usually disagree.Pure Lazy if you ask me.God forbid a defender would ever get a MOTM Award!!!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on October 15, 2008, 08:51:52 AM
While Alan Curran had a fine game i though Watters deserved to get the award.  He was outstanding from start to finish and really drove at Mountnugent.  He did well to keep his head with all the hits he was taking, although he did lose it and swing out near the end and i believe we have a Mountnugent selector to thank for shouting in at the referee not to send him off.  It was a great team performance though and the only player who wasn't playing well was taking off before half time which would never have happened before under the previous management.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Hollow Man on October 15, 2008, 01:05:57 PM
Curran was good, curtailing Givney to two points from play and getting one himself, but Watters was unbelievable, he scored a point and was involved in practically evry other score, either drawing a foul or laying off the final pass.

Givney is a good player though, I've been very impressed with him. The most striking attribute he has are his ability of field the ball - he has great hands and would be an ideal target man, especially given his eye for goal.

While he has been playing junior football, scoring 7-19 in the championship (apparently that's his total) is superb for a 19 year old, especially considering practically all of that was from play. Bear in mind that any young, stylish forward in junior comes in for serious hits and it's even more impressive.

Then, he didn't make the couty minor team so his chance is probably gone. Sure everyone knows that once you make a Manning Cup or minor squad in Cavan, you've made it. The senior call up generally follows and you can live off your name until you are totally burned out at 23.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on October 15, 2008, 01:27:11 PM
I'd have to agree with Hollow Man & Cavan4Ever. Curran was more solid than outstanding in that he didn't have too much defending to do. Like I said earlier, Watters destroyed his man time and time again. In saying that, I saw him earlier in the competition and he could do nothing right. So, has anyone got any inside knowledge on what TC (we're very close) intends doing in the close season to identify new players? Development squads?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Hollow Man on October 15, 2008, 01:59:42 PM
To be fair, I saw Watters int he semi-final against Shercock and he was the best player on show, think he scored two points but again he set up everything.

McEntee was very good too that evening.

Will be good to see how Ciaran Galligan progresses, great athlete and very fit but needs to improve his shooting and maybe impose himself more physically.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on October 15, 2008, 07:52:44 PM
Quote from: Hollow Man on October 15, 2008, 01:59:42 PM
To be fair, I saw Watters int he semi-final against Shercock and he was the best player on show, think he scored two points but again he set up everything.

McEntee was very good too that evening.

Will be good to see how Ciaran Galligan progresses, great athlete and very fit but needs to improve his shooting and maybe impose himself more physically.
Was at that game myself Hollow and Id hav to disagree.Mc Entee set up at least 3 or 4 scores and scored 3 points.IMO he was the best man on show.Dont get me wrong,I rate Watters and think he will be a County footballer but IMO he is still very greedy,too inclined to try and beat 2 or 3 men instead of laying off the simple ball.Half the reason why he may take so much punishment.
Ciaran Galligan if he can stay free of injury could make a County midfielder.He is very committed and has a great attitude.As you said if he could impose himself more on a game,A man of his size should be able to dominate and control a game.
As regards Tom Carrs plans-well he has a whole new panel to pick.There shoud be no presumptions.everybody should start of on a par.I myself think that a few trial games never did any harm and if it can throw up 1 or 2 potential players then its worthwhile.Anybody disagree?
BH Man(should I send out the search brigade yet??) posted a week or so ago about potential County footballers throughout the county,Anybody uncovered any hidden talent this year?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on October 15, 2008, 08:36:36 PM
agh shit

well first of all congratulations to C4ever and Drung,didnt see any of the match but i heard you were more than deserving winners.

as for our game,to be honest we were very poor and Redhills truely deserved to win it.
About 4 of our players came out with passing marks for me
Brendan Maguire in Goals
Colm Reily
Ray Cullivan and Eamon Costello,
Redhills won all the other battles.

Injuries wise
(Sean McCormack had a bad groin injury and wasnt anywhere near his best.
Barry McCrudenn was also struggling with a back injury)
Im not using these as Excuses tough,
Redhills were fitter and sharper than us on Sunday and we could just not live with their intensity.
They were worthy winners.
I thought
Rory Dunne,Brendan Leddy,Pierce West,Colin Reily,Ciaran West,Paddy Gumley were outstanding for them and Packie Leddy for me was the best player on the pitch(and hes minor again next year)

Boojangles tipped us because hes played against us over the years and  has seen us when we have played well and looked like a good intermediate team,
Even in getting to the intermediate final we havent reached the level of performances which we have shown in previous years in the championship.
Its bewildering because the spirit in the club has never been better.

Anyway enough about the Ballyhaise team.

C4ever
at least 8 B'Haise Flags were stolen in the week before the final
4 Flags were stolen alone from Goose's(Stephen Smith) 's house.
Some twat from Redhills supposedly came up and burned a B'Haise flag in front of our community centre as well
Not to mention Ballyhaise Flags burned down in Redhills,
and finally a car some of the younger lads painted Green and Gold and left in the square, was vandalised with windows broken and all the night before the final.
They are charming people down there  ::)

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on October 16, 2008, 08:15:59 AM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on October 15, 2008, 08:36:36 PM

C4ever
at least 8 B'Haise Flags were stolen in the week before the final
4 Flags were stolen alone from Goose's(Stephen Smith) 's house.
Some t**t from Redhills supposedly came up and burned a B'Haise flag in front of our community centre as well
Not to mention Ballyhaise Flags burned down in Redhills,
and finally a car some of the younger lads painted Green and Gold and left in the square, was vandalised with windows broken and all the night before the final.
They are charming people down there  ::)

Yeah thats what i heard it's very bad form and no need for it what so ever.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on October 16, 2008, 08:32:06 AM
...and I thought the dubs were the ones embracing the soccer culture. Looks like we have our own little Millwall F.C. Commiserations BH Man, good to see you managed to crawl out of wherever you were.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Hollow Man on October 16, 2008, 11:09:32 AM
Just got this from CNN.com

Uproar after digraceful scenes in Irish village

Ballyhaise, Ireland

Unconfirmed reports from the Irish village of Ballyhaise, Co Cavan suggest that "at least eight" flags were stolen and an old scrap car callously vandalised in the run-up to a Gaelic football match last weekend. In a shocking further development, at least two flags are also reported to have been set alight in a move which as been condemned by local residents.

The shocking scenes came following two weeks of relentless verbal sparring among supporters of both sides. The Ballyhaise squad, who were well-beaten by a team full of teenagers, are said to be deeply traumatised by the despicable actions of their opponents' supporters, which some suggested was the root cause of their lily-livered performance on the day.

"Some t**t from Redhills supposedly came up and burned a Ballyhaise flag in front of our community centre," revealed one anonymous player. "Not to mention Ballyhaise Flags burned down in Redhills."

The source declined to explain why there were Ballyhaise flags across the border, although it is thought that the flags were stolen and burned as a sort of ritual. The player was magnanimous in defeat, however, mentioning that "Redhills truely [sic] deserved to win it" and that injuries to two players were not an excuse.

The Irish government have moved quickly to avoid a futher escalation of trouble and have sent a team of trained counsellors to the Ballyhaise area to assist locals who may have witnessed the flag larcenies. The Gardai have also confirmed that a high-level investigation is underway, while Amnesty International were quick to condemn the despicable actions.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on October 16, 2008, 12:05:41 PM
Quote from: Lawrence of Knockbride on October 16, 2008, 08:32:06 AM
...and I thought the dubs were the ones embracing the soccer culture. Looks like we have our own little Millwall F.C. Commiserations BH Man, good to see you managed to crawl out of wherever you were.

to be honest the session lasted just Sunday and Monday,Tuesday was spent in Bed and back to work yesterday  :D
Still dying though.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on October 16, 2008, 12:06:14 PM
Quote from: Hollow Man on October 16, 2008, 11:09:32 AM
Just got this from CNN.com

Uproar after digraceful scenes in Irish village

Ballyhaise, Ireland

Unconfirmed reports from the Irish village of Ballyhaise, Co Cavan suggest that "at least eight" flags were stolen and an old scrap car callously vandalised in the run-up to a Gaelic football match last weekend. In a shocking further development, at least two flags are also reported to have been set alight in a move which as been condemned by local residents.

The shocking scenes came following two weeks of relentless verbal sparring among supporters of both sides. The Ballyhaise squad, who were well-beaten by a team full of teenagers, are said to be deeply traumatised by the despicable actions of their opponents' supporters, which some suggested was the root cause of their lily-livered performance on the day.

"Some t**t from Redhills supposedly came up and burned a Ballyhaise flag in front of our community centre," revealed one anonymous player. "Not to mention Ballyhaise Flags burned down in Redhills."

The source declined to explain why there were Ballyhaise flags across the border, although it is thought that the flags were stolen and burned as a sort of ritual. The player was magnanimous in defeat, however, mentioning that "Redhills truely [sic] deserved to win it" and that injuries to two players were not an excuse.

The Irish government have moved quickly to avoid a futher escalation of trouble and have sent a team of trained counsellors to the Ballyhaise area to assist locals who may have witnessed the flag larcenies. The Gardai have also confirmed that a high-level investigation is underway, while Amnesty International were quick to condemn the despicable actions.

Nice to see that you care Hollow   :-*  ;D

I think we should just give Redhills back to the Brits,
Redhills, Co.Fermanagh, UK has a good sounf of it  :P
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on October 16, 2008, 12:11:31 PM
I agree with the Boo Jangly one on picking a whole new panel from scratch. The new broom really needs to sweep totally clean. Everyone starts on the same footing with a clear understanding of the commitment involved, no heed paid to reputation or 'past achievements' such as they would be in Cavan. That's the only way a genuinely new leaf can be turned.

Interested to see Ciarán Galligan getting more shouts here again. I can't see this guy ever making it though, sure he's big, committed and looks after himself but for all his attributes, there's no manager out there that will be able to coach raw courage and a bit of balls into him. Sorry lads, but the chap is just too reluctant in the physical stakes and I can't see this changing. I didn't see the recent final but I recall him in the replay in Down just 'shadowing' opposition players all day and not getting stuck in at all. Very frustrating to see a big man like that, that we're crying out for, not putting it to any use.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on October 16, 2008, 02:09:08 PM
Quote from: cavanmaniac on October 16, 2008, 12:11:31 PM
Interested to see Ciarán Galligan getting more shouts here again. I can't see this guy ever making it though, sure he's big, committed and looks after himself but for all his attributes, there's no manager out there that will be able to coach raw courage and a bit of balls into him. Sorry lads, but the chap is just too reluctant in the physical stakes and I can't see this changing. I didn't see the recent final but I recall him in the replay in Down just 'shadowing' opposition players all day and not getting stuck in at all. Very frustrating to see a big man like that, that we're crying out for, not putting it to any use.

I can't disagree with alot of that.  He isn't that great of a fielder of the ball either but im sure he will get another chance with the county this year but unless he starts putting his head in where it hurts he wont make it.  If he had the same guts as his midfield partner last weekend Aidan McCaul not much would get in his way.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on October 16, 2008, 05:12:14 PM
The same used to be said about Ronan Carolan. We'd give our left arm to have him there now.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on October 16, 2008, 06:02:25 PM
And the same was true of Ronan Carolan as well, but he was always dead-eyed enough from frees to make him worth his place in the team. Mostly anyway. I can't see as of yet what Galligan could bring to the table to make up for his own shortfall. Both are actually very similar by the sounds of it, super fit, very dedicated etc.

Carolan showed what he was truly capable of when riled up, when McHugh dropped him in '97, the next few games back he played like a man possessed (nearly beat Donegal on his own), before gradually returning to meeker ways.

If it's not there already, it can't be transplanted or manufactured unfortunately. :-[
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on October 16, 2008, 08:44:46 PM
I heard all about the Vandals from Redhills,sure they were at the same caper in 2005 when Butlersbridge bet them in the Junior Final.I'd have a fair idea who was behind that shit too.Was all the more reason to beat the shite out of them.
Your right BH Man,I have to say that Ballyhaise were alot stronger outfit 2 or 3 years ago.Thats not to say that you's wont be back.Fergal Slowey was a big loss for you's.Couldnt see him giving the same room to Colin(Rocky) Reilly.
Not taking away from Redhills fine team performance but I dont think the Intermediate grade is as tough as it used to be.Ballinagh couldnt win the Intermediate 2 years ago but could still win the Division 1 League a few weeks later.
Ciaran Galligan deserves a trial anyway.He may not be Bernard Morris but I wouldnt call him near as Yella as Ronan Carolan was.
Who retired after the Kildare game? Forde,McCabe,Jason???
Mite we see Larry back in,now that Peter is involved.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on October 16, 2008, 10:41:01 PM
I hear the Gaels have a new recurit for next year,
Peter Donnelly Tyrone Panel member from Coalisland,
Taking up a coaching job with Cavan GAA.
anyone hear anything about it?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on October 17, 2008, 09:51:48 AM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on October 16, 2008, 10:41:01 PM
I hear the Gaels have a new recurit for next year,
Peter Donnelly Tyrone Panel member from Coalisland,
Taking up a coaching job with Cavan GAA.
anyone hear anything about it?


Didnt hear anythin about that.He was listed in the Programme on Sunday that he is the new coach for the East side of Cavan,gave his club as Coalisland.But whether he is moving to the Gaels Id have my doubts.Im sure Nicholas Walsh has been wrecking his head about it.That would put any man off.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on October 17, 2008, 10:45:40 AM
I didn't hear that anyone had quit after the Kildare game. I was talking to a friend of mine from Gowna. He says McCabe will be back but he reckons he is getting frustrated that he can't perform at the levels he used to (age is catching up with him) - hence all  the moaning and bollocking he is always at. Funny enough he reckons McKeever is an animal to train and very seldom misses one. He tells me Pierson is a lost cause, a loose cannon. He went as far as to say that pierson would never make it at county level because of this attitude he has. I think Forde will be there again too  and I know he always puts in the work but has he the legs anymore? Jason I think is a sub at best, he has lost that pace that made him such a goal threat in the past. A great servant of Cavan and a man we never heard of being in any discipline disputes. In fact I know he used to quit the booze altogether. Tommy has some important positions to fill down the center of the team. I see no Full Back (Dunne from Redhills in a yr or two maybe), Ctr Back (McKeever maybe, Gaynor needs another chance I believe), Midfiled (we are in bother here with only walsh cutting the mustard as far as I can see), Ctr Forward (hopefully Lyng will come back but who else), FF (no one unless McCabe can be transferred). Tommy Carr has a tough job on his hands. I wouldn't expect too much of him in yr 1. A decent run in the league - although we'll struggle for promotion and some sign of improved work rate and effort would be my goal. Weed out the wasters and put a soild base in place.

Interesting times but I am looking forward to next year which is the  total opposite of how I felt last year.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on October 17, 2008, 10:52:24 AM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on October 17, 2008, 10:45:40 AM
Tommy Carr has a tough job on his hands. I wouldn't expect too much of him in yr 1. A decent run in the league - although we'll struggle for promotion and some sign of improved work rate and effort would be my goal. Weed out the wasters and put a soild base in place.

Agree with that. Although you'd never know in the league, sometimes you can capitalise on the other teams not being so tuned in early on, plus there's always a couple of rogue results in weekends where big hitters are after doing their heavy stamina training for the championship. It's a stretch but we should at least be flirting with the idea of promotion, whether we close the deal or not is another thing.

But there's an awful lot of problem positions to be filled and the candidates would seem thin on the ground. But you never know how a rising tide can lift all boats, sometimes lads come to the fore that never shone previously. Here's hoping anyway, let's enjoy the honeymoon for now.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Hollow Man on October 17, 2008, 10:59:21 AM
QuoteIn fact I know he used to quit the booze altogether

Wow, never realised he was so dedicated.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on October 17, 2008, 11:09:36 AM
Quote from: Hollow Man on October 17, 2008, 10:59:21 AM
QuoteIn fact I know he used to quit the booze altogether

Wow, never realised he was so dedicated.
Wow - another breathtakingly informative post by hollow head
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on October 17, 2008, 11:27:27 AM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on October 17, 2008, 11:09:36 AM
Quote from: Hollow Man on October 17, 2008, 10:59:21 AM
QuoteIn fact I know he used to quit the booze altogether

Wow, never realised he was so dedicated.
Wow - another breathtakingly informative post by hollow head

Used to is the word he hasn't quit it in the last few years.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Hollow Man on October 17, 2008, 12:23:36 PM
My point was that the fact that Jason going off the drink before the championship is deemed noteworthy shows the lack of commitment our county panels have had over the last few years. In any successful county, nobody would ever have to say "AN Other is dedicated, sure he goes off the drink" - that would be a given.

Sorry to have to spell it out yet again Myles. Please pay attention.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on October 17, 2008, 01:36:52 PM
When I worked in Belturbet a long time ago he used to quit the drink for the whole season. He was a young lad in his mid 20's then so I would call that a fair commitment, especially when a lot of the others were boozing away. Now that might have changed - i don't know.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on October 17, 2008, 04:36:20 PM
Its beginning to rain down here in Cavan. 

Would rain do us any favours?  I dunno.  It might be a leveller.  I'd say enjoy but both neurtral and intetrested bystanders will have to endure.

Ah well, f&ck it, lets enjoy the moment, 1st of many Senior finals.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on October 17, 2008, 06:48:25 PM
Id say rain would do Denn a favour

If Breffini were a mud bath on Sunday you just never know what might happen,

i dont think there will be as much in it as some people are saying, but Gaels by 6 for me.

Best of luck to you and all in Denn though DF.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on October 19, 2008, 04:36:09 PM
Quote from: Hollow Man on October 17, 2008, 12:23:36 PM
My point was that the fact that Jason going off the drink before the championship is deemed noteworthy shows the lack of commitment our county panels have had over the last few years. In any successful county, nobody would ever have to say "AN Other is dedicated, sure he goes off the drink" - that would be a given.

Sorry to have to spell it out yet again Myles. Please pay attention.


Christ Myles thank god somebody got in before me to pull you up on such a ridiculous assertion on your part, don't you know that it's a precondition of membership of any inter county GAA panel that you subscribe to an abstemious lifestyle akin to that of a trappist monk, no exceptions ok, well maybe slight exceptions in the case of Cavan, Roscommon, Donegal, Laois (Football), Limerick, Galway, Waterford (Hurling). F@#k maybe you actually have a point after all, any other panels you can think of that wouldn't be averse to the odd libation???
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: ardmhachaabu08 on October 19, 2008, 05:22:36 PM
Any update on Cavan Gaels v Denn ???
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on October 19, 2008, 05:40:59 PM
Gaels won 15 points to 7. Didn't sound like a classic then again who knows when you're listening to Northern Sound. He was talkin about horse shoes, police in LA and telegrams and weather reports from London. Never again...
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on October 19, 2008, 05:52:33 PM
Thanks for that CeltMan I suppose it was the result that most people expected while most of us would have been hoping for an upset. Let's see what the Gaels can do in Ulster. As for those tulips on Northern Sound, words do indeed fail you (but not them) by times
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on October 19, 2008, 07:53:15 PM
It wasn't a classic but with the gale that was blowing and overall sh1ttyness of the weather what did you expect?

CG were better drilled and had the look of Tyrone about them, always a man running off the man in possession and skirtting with fouling but never getting over the line. Something you notice all good teams doing.

I'll let them off with their below par performance due to the shocking weather, but I worry about them in Ulster.  They should have put us to the sword and beaten us out of sight.  We were lucky we played with the wind in the first half and so they never got up a head of steam.

Looking at it I wonder why the county team could never seem to play with the same intensity as CG.

Ah well, there is alway next year but with CG winning the minor as well, fair F%cks.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: ludermor on October 19, 2008, 08:07:53 PM
Denn Forever,
Is Donnacha and Fergal Brady still playing with Denn?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on October 19, 2008, 09:31:56 PM
Fergal was playing.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on October 19, 2008, 09:39:21 PM
I don't think Donnacha was there and it would be a bit too fast. 

That said he could maybe have played full back and allowed Ciaran McGovern to play further out field where he could have been a threat.  CG were comfortable in defense with Eamonn Reilly always available to mop things up or provide an outlet.

I'll leave it now and mope quietly in a corner.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on October 20, 2008, 10:44:38 AM
Is there any chance of Ciarán McGovern getting a run with the county or what sort of level is he playing at these days? Is he too old now?

I saw him a few times over the years before decamping to other pastures and he looked a classy player, most of the time. Had a few abberrations last time I saw him mind you...
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Hollow Man on October 20, 2008, 11:02:22 AM
Hard luck Denn, missing a few forwards but didn't lack commitment.

Martin Cahill and Thomas Corr about the best for them.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on October 20, 2008, 01:05:08 PM
anyone hold out much hope for the Gaels against St Galls in Casement?

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Maximus Marillius on October 20, 2008, 01:17:38 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on October 20, 2008, 01:05:08 PM
anyone hold out much hope for the Gaels against St Galls in Casement?



none
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on October 20, 2008, 01:19:06 PM
Ciaran is 29 I think but as for county football I don't know.  Where would you play him?  Midfield or half forward if you are going to play pressurised football as he was wasted at full back.  A bit hotheaded but if you could channel it.

CG against St Galls?  They have the ability but does anyone know if the treat the Ulster seriously?  Also as I said earlier, they should have put us to the sword if mthey are that good.  Hopefully they can do the business and really put it up to the county team.

But if winning Cavan is the sum of their ambitions, oh god.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on October 20, 2008, 02:09:31 PM
Quote from: Maximus Marillius on October 20, 2008, 01:17:38 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on October 20, 2008, 01:05:08 PM
anyone hold out much hope for the Gaels against St Galls in Casement?



none

Care to expand on that Max? I mean you normally measure a teams quality based on  the quality of their underage. Haven't seen much at underage up in Antrim in a while. Have you seen the gaels  this year and if so what about them has not impressed you? Come on Max, don't hold back.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on October 20, 2008, 03:46:20 PM
How did Rabbitt and Lyng play in the county final? I know the latter got 0-2 but in general play, did they look like they were on the verge of an intercounty return perhaps?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Maximus Marillius on October 20, 2008, 03:57:09 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on October 20, 2008, 02:09:31 PM
Quote from: Maximus Marillius on October 20, 2008, 01:17:38 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on October 20, 2008, 01:05:08 PM
anyone hold out much hope for the Gaels against St Galls in Casement?



none

Care to expand on that Max? I mean you normally measure a teams quality based on  the quality of their underage. Haven't seen much at underage up in Antrim in a while. Have you seen the gaels  this year and if so what about them has not impressed you? Come on Max, don't hold back.

Myles gaels have done nothing of any note at any stage in Ulster. Real simple stuff here big lad. St Galls are a serious team, real quality, doesn't mean that the gaels are a decent team.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Hollow Man on October 20, 2008, 04:01:28 PM
What I would be worried about is the fact that Denn won so much around the middle. I felt Denn got about 45% round the middle but were let down by atrocious shooting. The Gaels on the other hand were excellenT in front of goal, kicking very few wides.

In other words, if Denn had a couple of forwards they could have been much closer than they were.

The Gaels still have a couple of passengers in their side, and as for bringing on three minors in the last five minutes and letting older lads rot on the bench.. says it all about them. Surely someone like Gearoid Collins could have come on, rather than light young lads who already got a game that day. That's why the Gaels have done nothing in Ulster and will continue to do very little in my opinion.

Forde's legs are gone, he can't force the pace at the top level, or even the level just below that (Ulster club). Dominic and Sean Reilly aren't up to that level either, neither are Daniel Graham or Martin Dunne (poor at county minor level last year, how would they be fit for a much higher standaRd 12 months later?).

What's the betS that those same minors won't be heard tell of when they get to their mid 20's, or will be left sitting on the bench as a new wave of 17 years olds are introduced? Sean Higgins anyone? Richie Graham?

PS: Max, can you really not spell "Gaels"? What is the Queen's education system coming to?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on October 20, 2008, 04:41:58 PM
The reason why we won so much around the middle was that we flooded the area.

In the first half, Eamonn Reilly was standing by himself in the half back line and all Denn forwards in the area were marked.  If we'd a few better forwards we might have troubled them but they were playing well within themselves.

Best of luck to them in Ulster.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on October 21, 2008, 12:35:23 PM
Anyone have updated league tables?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on October 21, 2008, 12:47:10 PM
Hoganstand

Division Two to end in exciting climax
21 October 2008


This year's ACFL Division Two campaign is set for another enthralling finish as Drumgoon, Ramor and Redhills all hold 20 points at the top of the table with a game each remaining in the final round of fixtures.

by Shane Corrigan

Last weekend, newly crowned Cavan intermediate champions Redhills overcame promotion rivals Drumgoon by two points thanks to Colin Reilly's late goal at Max McGrath Park. The result brings Mickey Cadden's side level on points with the Éire Ógs, after chasing their lead at the summit at the table for most of the season.

After losing out in the semi-finals of the SFC earlier this month, Ramor United ensured that they too would have their say in promotion back to complete senior status by trouncing Bailieborough, who are battling for safety at the foot end of the table, in Virginia last Saturday on a score-line of 1-17 to 2-5, with half-forward Stephen Monaghan instrumental in hitting 0-8.

The closing games (Round 13) of ACFL Division Two are set for next Saturday week, November 1 at 3.00pm. Ramor visit Killinkere, who are in a relegation dog fight with Bailieborough and Shercock, and Redhills making the trip to O'Raghallaigh Park to take on Kingscourt, who assured their safety with a win over Ballymachugh at the weekend.

Drumgoon host rivals Cootehill, who denied them immediate promotion last year with a defeat at Hugh O'Reilly Park which forced a three-way play-off between 'the Goonies', Killygarry and Lavey, with the latter two achieving promotion to the top tier.

With another play-off likely here, the division has once again proved that the intermediate section in Cavan remains the most unpredictable of the three.



Exciting stuff it will probably go to a play off in which id have Ramor and Redhills as favourites.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on October 21, 2008, 01:32:31 PM
Eoghan Elliot; John Gurhy, Darren Rabbitt, Karl Crotty; Anthony Forde (0-1), Eamon O'Reilly, Daniel Graham; Enda King (0-1), Cathal Collins; Sean O'Reilly, Sean Johnston (0-7) (3f), Cormac Nelligan (0-1) (1f); Michael Lyng (0-2), Nicholas Walsh, Dominic O'Reilly (0-2). Subs: Martin Dunne (0-1), Shane McGlade, Robert Maloney-Derham, Kevin Meehan, Niall Murray.

agree with Hollow Man, Thats gaels team isnt anywhere near as strong as they could put out. The weak links being Daniel Graham, Sean O Reily and Dominic O Reily

Gearoid Collins
Shane McGlade are two that should definetely be starting

what happened  Sean Higgins and Paul O Donnell? Both would be alot better than Sean and Dominic O Reily

Gavin Duffy is travelling, Hes another player they could do with.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on October 21, 2008, 10:06:47 PM
Difference between the Cavan Senior Panel and the Champions League Soccer Competition

Bailieborough Shamrocks have somebody involved in the Champions League.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on October 22, 2008, 08:33:27 AM
I thought he did well when he came on, especially compared to some of the Donkeys Celtic have on display. I only saw him once or twice for Cavan as a minor. I think he came on against Down in 06 in casement as a sub and kick a supreme point from in front of  the terrace. Bailieboro could do with him now...
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Swadman on October 22, 2008, 08:40:38 AM
QuoteDifference between the Cavan Senior Panel and the Champions League Soccer Competition
Bailieborough Shamrocks have somebody involved in the Champions League.
Any chance they can get Cillian back for the last game in Div 2 and hopefully avoid the drop to Div 3. I don't want to be getting my bicycle out for that trip next year !!!
Team      Pts
Redhills       20
Drumgoon       20
Ramor United     20
Knockbride    14
Drumlane         12
Killeshandra    12   
Drung            11
Kingscourt       11
Cootehill       10
Cavan Gaels    10 (2 games left)
Shercock       8
Bailieboro       8
Killinkere       7 (2 games left)
Ballymachugh 3
________________________
All the rest have 1 game left
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Swadman on October 22, 2008, 08:41:58 AM
Team   P   W   L   D   Pts
Cuchullains    12   8   1   3   19
Cavan Gaels    11   8   2   1   17
Lacken    11   7   3   1   15
Killygarry    11   6   4   1   13
Lavey    12   5   5   2   12
Mullahoran    11   5   5   1   11
Denn    11   4   4   3   11
Crosserlough    12   5   6   1   11
Ballinagh    12   4   6   2   10
Castlerahan    11   5   6   0   10
Gowna    11   4   6   1   9
Belturbet    11   3   6   2   8
Ballyhaise    11   3   7   1   7
Drumalee    11   2   8   1   5
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Swadman on October 22, 2008, 08:49:47 AM
Lakeside Manor Hotel A.C.F.L. Division 3
Team         P   W   L   D   Pts
Kill           12   9   2   1   19
Crosserlough 12   9   2   1   19
Templeport    12   7   4   1   15
Laragh Utd    12   7   4   1   15
Kildallan      12     6   4   2   14
Swanlinbar    12   6   4   2   14
Butlersbridge  12   5   4   3   13
Corlough        12   5   4   3   13
Munterconnacht 12   3   5   4   10
Shannon Gaels 12   4   7   1   9
Arva              12     4   7   1   9
Mountnugent    12   3   7   2   8
Cornafean   12   2   7   3   7
Maghera     12    0    9    3    3
 
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on October 22, 2008, 09:16:03 AM
How many teams are going down in Div 3 to Div 4, or does that depend on who is in the bottom 2.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on October 22, 2008, 10:51:41 AM
Cillian Sheridan was shaping up as some prospect before he left. Had one savage catch of a ball. Would have been lost at senior level with his lack of physique I fear, but sure we'll never know now anyway...
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Hollow Man on October 22, 2008, 12:00:01 PM
You're right, according to this link he is 6 ft 2 and weighs nothing!

http://www.4thegame.com/club/glasgow-celtic-fc/player-profile/37508/cilliansheridan.html
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on October 22, 2008, 12:10:11 PM
He was referenced in the ITV commentry as a talented Gaelic Footballer.  Well done the lad and hopefully he won't fade away like Stokes.

Does anyone know if Tommy Carr is one to change when the initial plan of action is redundant?  

Apparently Denn had had practice a plan for the final and when they were faced with the conditions that were present i.e. CG playing against a strong wind in the first half, they stuck to their plan i.e. flood midfield and defense.  That why we got so much possession HM.  No one had the cop on to play to the conditions.  So I hope that Tommy Carr can adapt.

11 wides in the game so we need to unearth some forwards. But it was great to be there.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on October 22, 2008, 12:40:54 PM
He must be the first Cavan man to play at Old Trafford. Not unless we had a few cricketers there over the years that the Celt didn't pick up on...
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on October 22, 2008, 06:34:54 PM
Quote from: cavanmaniac on October 22, 2008, 12:40:54 PM
He must be the first Cavan man to play at Old Trafford. Not unless we had a few cricketers there over the years that the Celt didn't pick up on...

Quite a few Cavan men have played in wembley though.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: CC1 on October 22, 2008, 09:09:24 PM
Quote from: Swadman on October 22, 2008, 08:40:38 AM
Any chance they can get Cillian back for the last game in Div 2 and hopefully avoid the drop to Div 3. I don't want to be getting my bicycle out for that trip next year !!!
Well you have Bailieboro, Shercock or Killinkere to choose from... Take your pick from those three! Going to be a long trip whatever way you look at it! :P
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on October 23, 2008, 02:43:39 PM
Can anyone shed any light on the 'Regional Games' that Tommy Carr has organised? What are they about, how are they organised etc.? They're a new one on me I must say but are obviously some sort of trawling/trialling system so they can't be a bad idea...
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on October 23, 2008, 03:53:30 PM
Quote from: cavanmaniac on October 23, 2008, 02:43:39 PM
Can anyone shed any light on the 'Regional Games' that Tommy Carr has organised? What are they about, how are they organised etc.? They're a new one on me I must say but are obviously some sort of trawling/trialling system so they can't be a bad idea...

They were done last year too. The county is split into a number of regions containing a number of clubs. Each club nominates some players. The county board appoint some selectors/managers for each region. They select a team and the different regions play each other as the Cavan management look on. That is it as far as I know. I'm not sure how well it went last year but supposedly it is going to be done better  this time around.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on October 23, 2008, 04:06:53 PM
Quote from: cavanmaniac on October 22, 2008, 12:40:54 PM
He must be the first Cavan man to play at Old Trafford. Not unless we had a few cricketers there over the years that the Celt didn't pick up on...

There's a young lad from Swad who is signed with United and he's only a gauson but probably would have played some underage games in OT. One for the pub quizers.


Quote from: mylestheslasher on October 23, 2008, 03:53:30 PM
Quote from: cavanmaniac on October 23, 2008, 02:43:39 PM
Can anyone shed any light on the 'Regional Games' that Tommy Carr has organised? What are they about, how are they organised etc.? They're a new one on me I must say but are obviously some sort of trawling/trialling system so they can't be a bad idea...

They were done last year too. The county is split into a number of regions containing a number of clubs. Each club nominates some players. The county board appoint some selectors/managers for each region. They select a team and the different regions play each other as the Cavan management look on. That is it as far as I know. I'm not sure how well it went last year but supposedly it is going to be done better  this time around.

Did any of those games actually go ahead last year? I remember Ballinagh were pooled in with Killeshandra and Swad and few others as West Cavan but none of our boys took part with the Ulster Club ongoing.


(Also belated congrats to cavan4ever, BottomBrick, thastheball and commiserations to HaiseMan and DennForever.)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on October 23, 2008, 08:16:15 PM
I believe that only one of them Regional games went ahead out in Mullahoran last year.The rest didnt.Our region was supposed to go up to Kingscourt but it was postponed about 3 times and eventually done away with.
They are trying the same crack this year,hopefully better organised than last year.Micky Lee is involved with our Region(probably Drumalee,Gaels,The Bridge,Ballyhaise,Redhills,Killygarry etc.) thats all I know.Its supposed to be staring next week.

Did any of yas hear about the wee disagreement the Gaels boys had after the County Final?Supposedly Forde and Chesty Reilly and a few more wanted to train Monday evening but most of the rest told them to f**k off.Cavan Gaels trained Tuesday night instead.They have a massive match in Casement in 2 weeks time,if they lose it could end their chances of winning Ulster for a few years anyway.Anthony Forde and Cathal Collins aint gettin any younger.2 experienced men ya need in Ulster.
Shane McGlade picked up an injury the week before the final thats why he wasnt playing.
The jurys still out on Daniel Graham,he has made it further than his more talented brother Ritchie and as far as his even more talented brother Johnny.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Swadman on October 24, 2008, 08:48:46 AM

QuoteAny chance they can get Cillian back for the last game in Div 2 and hopefully avoid the drop to Div 3. I don't want to be getting my bicycle out for that trip next year !!!

Well you have Bailieboro, Shercock or Killinkere to choose from... Take your pick from those three! Going to be a long trip whatever way you look at it!
Its a better road to Killinkere!!!

Christopher Curran, (17),from Swad signed for Man U last year and has played for their reserves (and scored)

Tommy Carr told the Anglo-Celt newspaper.
"Any fella who is keen on making a county panel needs to play in those games."
The games struggled to get off the ground last year due to the overrunning of club fixtures, but it is understood that the County Board have pledged their full backing this year.
Co-ordinator and Cavan junior manager, Terry Hyland has insisted that once again this year every club in the county will be represented in the regional games and has urged all clubs to get their players out.

Regional Games, Monday, October 27 at 2.00pm:
West Cavan Gaels v Sheelin Gaels at First Ulsters Park, Ballyconnell. Ref: Chris McCaffrey.
Sillian Gaels v East Cavan at O'Raghallaigh Park, Kingscourt. Ref: Ollie Donohoe.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: PhilsJemmysField on October 24, 2008, 12:34:05 PM
Swadman, Killinkere beat the County Champions on Wednesday in Div2 in a fairly good game of football. So unless Shercock and Bailieboro draw and there ends up being a 3 way relegation battle. Then you will end heading further East.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on October 24, 2008, 06:59:29 PM
Its a good idea the Regional Games,They werent taken too seriously last yera thats for sure, i know a good few lads asked to take part that turned up their noses at it.

anyone know if they are open to the public???

Might take a trip up to watch them.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on October 24, 2008, 07:25:19 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on October 24, 2008, 06:59:29 PM
Its a good idea the Regional Games,They werent taken too seriously last yera thats for sure, i know a good few lads asked to take part that turned up their noses at it.

anyone know if they are open to the public???

Might take a trip up to watch them.
Its up to the club to nominate who they want in, as far as I know.I seen them fixtures there,what clubs are West and East Cavan representing??
Ballyhaise Man would you not bring your gear along???
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on October 24, 2008, 07:31:45 PM
Quote from: boojangles on October 24, 2008, 07:25:19 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on October 24, 2008, 06:59:29 PM
Its a good idea the Regional Games,They werent taken too seriously last yera thats for sure, i know a good few lads asked to take part that turned up their noses at it.

anyone know if they are open to the public???

Might take a trip up to watch them.
Its up to the club to nominate who they want in, as far as I know.I seen them fixtures there,what clubs are West and East Cavan representing??
Ballyhaise Man would you not bring your gear along???

dont know Boojangles might be asked to attend tonight or tommorow, You never know  ;)
Have you gotten the call yourself?
You're well worth a place on the panel in my honest opinion.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on October 24, 2008, 07:40:17 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on October 24, 2008, 07:31:45 PM
Quote from: boojangles on October 24, 2008, 07:25:19 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on October 24, 2008, 06:59:29 PM
Its a good idea the Regional Games,They werent taken too seriously last yera thats for sure, i know a good few lads asked to take part that turned up their noses at it.

anyone know if they are open to the public???

Might take a trip up to watch them.
Its up to the club to nominate who they want in, as far as I know.I seen them fixtures there,what clubs are West and East Cavan representing??
Ballyhaise Man would you not bring your gear along???

dont know Boojangles might be asked to attend tonight or tommorow, You never know  ;)
Have you gotten the call yourself?
You're well worth a place on the panel in my honest opinion.
Ye I was asked if I was interested last week but not sure if we'r playing this week,(hopefully not cos Im off to Galway 2mrw evening) just headin training now Il probably know more after.
Well if you are who I think you are BH Man judging on your County Final performance you are worth a place yourself.
Serious bit of Brown nosing going on here ha!!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on October 24, 2008, 07:58:40 PM
Quote from: boojangles on October 24, 2008, 07:40:17 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on October 24, 2008, 07:31:45 PM
Quote from: boojangles on October 24, 2008, 07:25:19 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on October 24, 2008, 06:59:29 PM
Its a good idea the Regional Games,They werent taken too seriously last yera thats for sure, i know a good few lads asked to take part that turned up their noses at it.

anyone know if they are open to the public???

Might take a trip up to watch them.
Its up to the club to nominate who they want in, as far as I know.I seen them fixtures there,what clubs are West and East Cavan representing??
Ballyhaise Man would you not bring your gear along???

dont know Boojangles might be asked to attend tonight or tommorow, You never know  ;)
Have you gotten the call yourself?
You're well worth a place on the panel in my honest opinion.
Ye I was asked if I was interested last week but not sure if we'r playing this week,(hopefully not cos Im off to Galway 2mrw evening) just headin training now Il probably know more after.
Well if you are who I think you are BH Man judging on your County Final performance you are worth a place yourself.
Serious bit of Brown nosing going on here ha!!

nah im not him Boojangles  ;),Nice try though  :P i was poor enough in the county final to be honest,
Played alright in some of the games beforehand though.

Drumalee might be included in some of those im not sure.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Swadman on October 24, 2008, 08:02:41 PM
Well done Phil Jemmys lads !!! Looks like I will have to invest in a new set of shock absorbers for me jam jar after all.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Swadman on October 24, 2008, 08:12:04 PM
There are 6 regional Teams:
ERNE GAELS = B/turbet, Drumlane, Redhills, Drung, Kill, B/Bridge, Balliangh.
W CAVAN GAELS = Kildallan, Corlough, Swad, Shannon Gaels, Templeport, Killeshandra, Cornafean, Gowna.
SHEELIN GAELS = M/horan, M/nugent, B/Machugh, Arva, C/Lough, Lacken.
ANNALEE GAELS = Cavan Gaels, D/lee, Killygarry, Denn, Lavey.
SILLAN GAELS = Cootehill, K/Bride, D/Goon, B/Boro, Shercock, Laragh.
EAST CAVAN  = K/court, Ramor, C/Rahan, Mahera, M/Connaght, Killinkere, C/Cullans.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on October 24, 2008, 11:07:04 PM
Sure if two or three players fit for the intercounty squad were unearthed, it'd be worthwhile.

And if a full back and a midfielder materialised, I think I'd faint.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tierworker blue on October 25, 2008, 12:56:34 AM
Quote from: boojangles on October 24, 2008, 07:40:17 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on October 24, 2008, 07:31:45 PM
Quote from: boojangles on October 24, 2008, 07:25:19 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on October 24, 2008, 06:59:29 PM
Its a good idea the Regional Games,They werent taken too seriously last yera thats for sure, i know a good few lads asked to take part that turned up their noses at it.

anyone know if they are open to the public???

Might take a trip up to watch them.
Its up to the club to nominate who they want in, as far as I know.I seen them fixtures there,what clubs are West and East Cavan representing??
Ballyhaise Man would you not bring your gear along???

dont know Boojangles might be asked to attend tonight or tommorow, You never know  ;)
Have you gotten the call yourself?
You're well worth a place on the panel in my honest opinion.
Ye I was asked if I was interested last week but not sure if we'r playing this week,(hopefully not cos Im off to Galway 2mrw evening) just headin training now Il probably know more after.
Well if you are who I think you are BH Man judging on your County Final performance you are worth a place yourself.
Serious bit of Brown nosing going on here ha!!

Jaysus lads...get a room! (Only kidding...best of luck to anyone who gets the shout.)
Hopefully if the tree is shaken hard enough something new might fall out...!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Swadman on October 25, 2008, 04:20:49 PM
I see Ciallian Sheridan has scored Celtics 2nd goal. They lead Hibs 2:1
I think thats his first goal for the 1st team. Well done the lad.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on October 25, 2008, 05:37:07 PM
On a related topic, did anybody catch the program on the US open handball on TG4 this week. I caught all of the last five minutes today when I was surfing around. Wouldn't be a huge expert on the sport but to say Paul the Gunner looked impressive is an understatement. Spoke to somebody earlier in the week who had seen "Run 1" of the program and said he was very impressed with the Gunner, they did a bit of profiling and delved into his GAA activities a bit.


Fair play to young Sheridan, the head of the oul fella plus about six inches in height. Not sure if it's his first goal for the first team but as near as makes no differ
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on October 25, 2008, 07:09:42 PM
Saw the programme on the 2007 US Open ac39, they filmed a bit with Gunner down at the club and stuff, was a very enjoyable programme and Gunner came across as the progressive thinker and meticulous preparer that he is.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: shotstopper1 on October 27, 2008, 10:11:51 AM
Quote from: Swadman on October 24, 2008, 08:12:04 PM
There are 6 regional Teams:
ERNE GAELS = B/turbet, Drumlane, Redhills, Drung, Kill, B/Bridge, Balliangh.
W CAVAN GAELS = Kildallan, Corlough, Swad, Shannon Gaels, Templeport, Killeshandra, Cornafean, Gowna.
SHEELIN GAELS = M/horan, M/nugent, B/Machugh, Arva, C/Lough, Lacken.
ANNALEE GAELS = Cavan Gaels, D/lee, Killygarry, Denn, Lavey.
SILLAN GAELS = Cootehill, K/Bride, D/Goon, B/Boro, Shercock, Laragh.
EAST CAVAN  = K/court, Ramor, C/Rahan, Mahera, M/Connaght, Killinkere, C/Cullans.

BHM looks like your self and your teammates will be looking on from the sidelines,no room for ye in the regionals.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Hollow Man on October 27, 2008, 10:30:31 AM
Cavanmaniac, the number of the beast...
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on October 27, 2008, 06:35:50 PM
Any major finds at the trial games?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on October 27, 2008, 08:13:04 PM
Quote from: Hollow Man on October 27, 2008, 10:30:31 AM
Cavanmaniac, the number of the beast...

I convulsed when I went to mass this morning. Now I know why.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on October 27, 2008, 09:28:43 PM
I was at the game in Kingscourt, Sillan Gaels against east Cavan Gaels. Sillan Gaels kicked them around the place. First of all can't believe they charged a fiver in, unbelievable. Fannin was a corner forward, kicked 5 or 6 points. McCutcheon was good in the middle and sean Gargan from Kingscourt impressed me too. McCarney and Liam Reilly had good first halves too. Didn't know many on the other side, killan lynch was decent that was about it.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Swadman on October 29, 2008, 08:11:42 AM
Was at the game in Ballyconnell between West Cavan & Sheelin Gaels. Yes they charged a €5 there too. I think it goes towards a prize fund for the winners, sports vouchers or something. Game ended in a draw, Ronan Reilly, Kildallan, and Madden, Gowna, played well as did Galligan from Lacken. The rest looked too small for county (this year, anyway)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on October 29, 2008, 11:17:48 AM
Quote from: Swadman on October 29, 2008, 08:11:42 AM
Was at the game in Ballyconnell between West Cavan & Sheelin Gaels. Yes they charged a €5 there too. I think it goes towards a prize fund for the winners, sports vouchers or something. Game ended in a draw, Ronan Reilly, Kildallan, and Madden, Gowna, played well as did Galligan from Lacken. The rest looked too small for county (this year, anyway)
Thats right,the winning region get either 100 Euro or vouchers or something like that each.just an incentive to get up of your arse really.
The next game is on in Drumalee on Sunday at 12 o Clock.Its Annalee Gaels Vs Erne Gaels I think ????
Pelting Snow in October-I've seen it all now!!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on October 29, 2008, 04:53:14 PM
Too small for County football?  Had a look at the stats of the Tyrone footballers before the AI and there were a lot who were 5'8" e.g. Philip Jordan.  If you are good enough, you don't have to be giant!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4sam on October 29, 2008, 05:29:30 PM
Quote from: Denn Forever on October 29, 2008, 04:53:14 PM
Too small for County football?  Had a look at the stats of the Tyrone footballers before the AI and there were a lot who were 5'8" e.g. Philip Jordan.  If you are good enough, you don't have to be giant!

I'm not sure here but i think when he said they were too small I think he may have meant physically, as in that they were a bit lightweight, and not in terms of their height.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on October 30, 2008, 12:12:11 PM
What sort of a chance do yas reckon the Gaels have in Casement Park on Sunday?
Anybody making the trip up?
I think they really could have their work cut out.St Galls are after coming through a tight game against Mayobridge,compare that to the Gaels encounter with Denn.the only tight game the Gaels have had in a year is against Mullahoran in the Q-Final.If Galls get a handle on Johnston and Lyng then it could be game over.I would like to see the Gaels progress for the sake of Cavan football but also as I think this may be their last rattle at it for a few years.
Also has the draw for the Ulster Intermediate and Junior Championships been made yet?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on October 30, 2008, 12:22:48 PM
Quote from: boojangles on October 30, 2008, 12:12:11 PM
What sort of a chance do yas reckon the Gaels have in Casement Park on Sunday?
Anybody making the trip up?
I think they really could have their work cut out.St Galls are after coming through a tight game against Mayobridge,compare that to the Gaels encounter with Denn.the only tight game the Gaels have had in a year is against Mullahoran in the Q-Final.If Galls get a handle on Johnston and Lyng then it could be game over.I would like to see the Gaels progress for the sake of Cavan football but also as I think this may be their last rattle at it for a few years.
Also has the draw for the Ulster Intermediate and Junior Championships been made yet?
Drung are playing the Derry champions on Sunday in Breffini and i heard Redhills play the Tyrone champions on the 8th
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on October 30, 2008, 05:20:37 PM
Quote from: boojangles on October 30, 2008, 12:12:11 PM
What sort of a chance do yas reckon the Gaels have in Casement Park on Sunday?
Anybody making the trip up?
I think they really could have their work cut out.St Galls are after coming through a tight game against Mayobridge,compare that to the Gaels encounter with Denn.the only tight game the Gaels have had in a year is against Mullahoran in the Q-Final.If Galls get a handle on Johnston and Lyng then it could be game over.I would like to see the Gaels progress for the sake of Cavan football but also as I think this may be their last rattle at it for a few years.
Also has the draw for the Ulster Intermediate and Junior Championships been made yet?

Nobody's really too bothered I think. The Gaels have had enough nibbles at the Ulster club by now to have learned something but seem to get further away every year. Not good enough based on previous efforts but they'll have to takea big scalp soon on the law of avergaes alone. Galls are a big hitter though, too good for the Gaels I'd reckon.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on October 31, 2008, 11:39:37 AM
See the league fixtures are in the indo today.

Starts away to Longford, end with away to Louth. We have Down, Offally away too. Ros, Limerick and Tipp at home.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on October 31, 2008, 03:17:03 PM
Four away games is a pisser, that two of them are in Down and Offaly is a total bags. We'll really struggle to get out of those venues unscathed, Longford under Glenn Ryan will be all-out from the start of the league too.

Tough task ahead in year one of the Tommy project!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Mr. Pain on October 31, 2008, 04:24:22 PM
Quote from: cavanmaniac on October 31, 2008, 03:17:03 PM
Four away games is a pisser, that two of them are in Down and Offaly is a total bags. We'll really struggle to get out of those venues unscathed, Longford under Glenn Ryan will be all-out from the start of the league too.

Tough task ahead in year one of the Tommy project!

Mr. Pain is unfamiliar with this new language. He always thought that a pisser was a lavatory and was very useful in times of need. Also a bag can be handy although Mr. Pain would encourage the use of paper bags as plastic does harm our environment and Mr. Pain would like the Paininis to grow up on a clean earth. A big bag of shite, however, is a negative thing and perhaps this is what the maniac is referring to. Rant over!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on November 01, 2008, 07:15:59 PM
We did it again... Beat Drumgoon on the last day of the league to deny them promotion... Played them off the park really won 8 - 4 winning 6 points to 1 at half time.... So with Redhills and Ramor both won so they go up...
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: CC1 on November 02, 2008, 01:30:04 AM
we relegated bailieboro to division 3. To be honest we should have been out of sight by half time but for poor shooting and woeful refereeing. Bailieboro came back into it in the second half mainly due to our management moving mickey reilly out of midfield into the forward line. It baffled everybody including the knockbride boys standing in the crowd beside me. It got bailieboro back on level terms and it then looked like anything could happen... Luckily our boys regained their composure and found out a result. Special word for Gary Smith, the boy is a class act. If he keeps his head he is one of the best backs in Cavan. IMO of course...
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on November 02, 2008, 11:16:37 AM
Thanks CC1 for the update, well sort of. Heard on the Jungle Drums down this far that the Shamrocks are down to Junior level next year, don't know when that last happened if at all. Probably some of it due to not bringing some new lads through and giving them a chance over the mid-90's crew, still have to be more reasons than just that for ending up at this stage.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: CC1 on November 02, 2008, 01:09:20 PM
Very true ac39. I know alot of lads that played for Bailieboro underage and were very decent players. I can't think of one of them still playing ball for the shamrocks right now. Now that most of the 90's crew have moved on they are left with a very average side and personally I think they will struggle in division 3 too. They really do need some youngsters to start coming through soon and it will be another while yet because the next promising group of lads are this years u16 team. The near future is looking very very bleak for them.

As for ourselves, business as usual. The backs and midfield were completely on top and the forwards were very very poor. I don't think we've put over more than 10 points in a game so far this year. Which is not good at all. Our forwards really need to start playing or we will struggle again next year.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on November 02, 2008, 02:11:30 PM
Belturbet 6-08 Ballyhaise 1-11

Ballyhaise relegated to division Two alongside Drumalee.

Jason Reily scored a hatrick.

We were beyond abysmal with only Sean McCormack, Donal Farrelly Kevin Tierney and Eamon Costello playing any football.

Belturbet were outstanding,

Conor Vaughan and Brendan Bud Fitzpatrick look like outstanding prospects.

Now for this Hangover  :-X
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on November 02, 2008, 04:46:32 PM
Quote from: Maximus Marillius on October 20, 2008, 01:17:38 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on October 20, 2008, 01:05:08 PM
anyone hold out much hope for the Gaels against St Galls in Casement?



none

Oh Dear Max - wrong again.

St Gall 0-07 Cavan Gaels 1-07
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on November 03, 2008, 09:10:34 AM
Who played well for the gaels? 
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on November 03, 2008, 09:24:51 AM
Quote from: cavan4ever on November 03, 2008, 09:10:34 AM
Who played well for the gaels? 

Dunno, wasn't at it - this is from Hoganstand...

Cavan Gaels secured a 1-7 to 0-7 win over St. Galls at Casement Park thanks to a first half Michael Lyng goal.

Gaels finished with 14-men following the dismissal of Darren Rabbitte in the first half, but their Antrim counterparts were reduced to 13 by the full-time whistle following red cards for Sean Burke and Kevin McGourty.

McGourty's injury-time dismissal compounded Galls woes in a game which saw the hosts miss a lot of scoring opportunities.

With the sides level midway through the second half, and Galls on top in the possession stakes following three well taken points it looked like the Antrim champions could secure a semi-final spot.

However a Ciaran McGourty goal miss and wasted opportunities by Karl Stewart and Aodhan Gallagher opened this game up for a strong Cavan Gaels finish.

In a game full of off-the-ball incidents, no more than three points separated the sides throughout this contest.

It was a scoring spree from Seanie Johnston who finished with five points which ultimately secured a Cavan Gaels win and they will now meet Ballinderry in the semi-final, after the Derry side were 1-11 to 0-10 winners over Latton at Ballinascreen.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on November 03, 2008, 12:51:18 PM
Jasus, fair play to the Gaels. A Cavan club had to have a decent win in this competition sooner or later but I didn't think it'd be against Galls. Can lightning strike twice now against Ballinderry? At least it's a game on which Max's opinion will be half worth something!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Maximus Marillius on November 03, 2008, 01:15:02 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on November 02, 2008, 04:46:32 PM
Quote from: Maximus Marillius on October 20, 2008, 01:17:38 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on October 20, 2008, 01:05:08 PM
anyone hold out much hope for the Gaels against St Galls in Casement?



none

Oh Dear Max - wrong again.

St Gall 0-07 Cavan Gaels 1-07

myles my predictions along with everyones elses about cavan football are 9 times out of 10 accurate auld hand. 9 times out 10 it is that easy. Betting on cavan teams losing is usually where i make easy money. the odds are always shite but if you bet large amounts, 9 times out of 10 you will get the returns, although small, but still 9 times out of 10 sure money.

Congratualtions to the cavan gaels. I went up to the match in belfast yesterday. I just had a gut feeling about this game. I was talking to one of the St galls players during last week and the confidence was just a little to much. he sounded like a guy who was thinking of the next game, so on that basis i went. And on that basis I didnt bet this time, always wise to check the form before ye bets heavy money, my nose was spot on, thank god.The gaels really went about their business and got seriously stuck inot them. They prevented St galls from playing their usual running game and did not allow the game to flow at the start. It start, stop start type of football. no doubt St galls missed a few chances, but when the game was in the mettling pot with 15 to go you could sense that the gaels believed they could win it.
All joking aside I was delighted to see this team finally get a break in the club c'ship. They have been knocking on the door for some time and surely a win against a quality side like St Galls will help their confidence agianst our own B'dery in 2 wks time. Lyng has some work rate lads. As the Ulser scots would say 'a wee daftie' was your full back Rabitte. Couldn't believe him!!!!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on November 03, 2008, 01:25:14 PM
Quote from: Maximus Marillius on November 03, 2008, 01:15:02 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on November 02, 2008, 04:46:32 PM
Quote from: Maximus Marillius on October 20, 2008, 01:17:38 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on October 20, 2008, 01:05:08 PM
anyone hold out much hope for the Gaels against St Galls in Casement?



none

Oh Dear Max - wrong again.

St Gall 0-07 Cavan Gaels 1-07

myles my predictions along with everyones elses about cavan football are 9 times out of 10 accurate auld hand. 9 times out 10 it is that easy. Betting on cavan teams losing is usually where i make easy money. the odds are always shite but if you bet large amounts, 9 times out of 10 you will get the returns, although small, but still 9 times out of 10 sure money.

Congratualtions to the cavan gaels. I went up to the match in belfast yesterday. I just had a gut feeling about this game. I was talking to one of the St galls players during last week and the confidence was just a little to much. he sounded like a guy who was thinking of the next game, so on that basis i went. And on that basis I didnt bet this time, always wise to check the form before ye bets heavy money, my nose was spot on, thank god.The gaels really went about their business and got seriously stuck inot them. They prevented St galls from playing their usual running game and did not allow the game to flow at the start. It start, stop start type of football. no doubt St galls missed a few chances, but when the game was in the mettling pot with 15 to go you could sense that the gaels believed they could win it.
All joking aside I was delighted to see this team finally get a break in the club c'ship. They have been knocking on the door for some time and surely a win against a quality side like St Galls will help their confidence agianst our own B'dery in 2 wks time. Lyng has some work rate lads. As the Ulser scots would say 'a wee daftie' was your full back Rabitte. Couldn't believe him!!!!

Good man max. You said they had no hope 2 weeks ago but your trusty nose started working earlier in the week and you changed your mind! I believe you Max :D.

You are right about Lyng. For such a small guy he really gets stuck in and often turns over ball for the team. What did Rabbitte do that you couldn't believe? He was the last decent FB Cavan had but has been detroyed by injury for the past 3-4 years. So whats your nose telling you about the gaels v Ballinderry match or are you going to wait till the match is over to tell us.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on November 03, 2008, 01:28:01 PM


Quote from: Maximus Marillius on November 03, 2008, 01:15:02 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on November 02, 2008, 04:46:32 PM
Quote from: Maximus Marillius on October 20, 2008, 01:17:38 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on October 20, 2008, 01:05:08 PM
anyone hold out much hope for the Gaels against St Galls in Casement?



none

Oh Dear Max - wrong again.

St Gall 0-07 Cavan Gaels 1-07

myles my predictions along with everyones elses about cavan football are 9 times out of 10 accurate auld hand. 9 times out 10 it is that easy. Betting on cavan teams losing is usually where i make easy money. the odds are always shite but if you bet large amounts, 9 times out of 10 you will get the returns, although small, but still 9 times out of 10 sure money.

Congratualtions to the cavan gaels. I went up to the match in belfast yesterday. I just had a gut feeling about this game. I was talking to one of the St galls players during last week and the confidence was just a little to much. he sounded like a guy who was thinking of the next game, so on that basis i went. And on that basis I didnt bet this time, always wise to check the form before ye bets heavy money, my nose was spot on, thank god.

:D  :D  :D

Shrewd as they come Max any chance you could update your predictions on here before the match itself and we might believe ya.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on November 03, 2008, 01:31:06 PM
Congrats to the Gaels a great upset for them and one that was long overdue. Hopefully they can keep their feet on the ground now and take Ballinderry.

Were Drung playing yesterday? I know Redhills are waiting on another round to be finished.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on November 03, 2008, 02:14:33 PM
Quote from: Homer on November 03, 2008, 01:31:06 PM
Congrats to the Gaels a great upset for them and one that was long overdue. Hopefully they can keep their feet on the ground now and take Ballinderry.

Were Drung playing yesterday? I know Redhills are waiting on another round to be finished.

Drung got beat by 5 or 6 points yesterday.  Watters was brillant for first 10 minutes and was then double marked and both he and Drung went out of the game.  Got destroyed at midfield Galligan was very poor, he is not a county player.

Well done to the Gaels that was a big win for them yesterday and as much as i don't like them it will do no harm to football in the county to see them making progess in Ulster.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Maximus Marillius on November 03, 2008, 02:17:51 PM
Myles...he was on a yellow and the tackle he hit for his second yelow(which IMo was a straight red) beggars belief considering it was tsill the 1st half. Lads i bet on games..and suzzing the attitude out of another team is what i always i try to do, if it can be done. The St galls lad i talked too had his head where the sun dont shine..crossmaglen was all that he talked about. What do you want me to do come on the board and tell all youse gaels lads who were at the match ;) The gaels had a bucket full of guts yesterday.

BTW lads my nose has made me  few pounds over the years. Made my money on the Ballinderry game yesterday. i know they had a few problems before the game ...a midfielder with food poisioning etc and devlin not playing but i just coldn't see latton doing them. B'drry have an extremely strong panel. Another easy money spinner is cross' game next wk. But it will take about a grand to make any money.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on November 03, 2008, 08:03:40 PM
Congrats to the Gaels yesterday,a great win for Cavan football.While I didnt predict a result I had a feeling that there was a big game in them and sooner or later these lads had to grow up in Ulster and show what we know most of them are capable of.Ballinderry will be another kettle of fish altogether though.Cavan teams dont have a great record against Derry teams but Im sure they will give it a good shot.The venue could play a big part.
You would have to admire Mick O Dowd in the way he sent out 3 Minors instead of some household names like Karl Crotty who has played Inter-County football at all levels.Some people on this thread said in the last few weeks that the reason that the Gaels would never do anything in Ulster was for reasons such as this,but it worked yesterday.Supposedly Niall Murray was outstanding.
Max is right about Micky Lyng,his work-rate is top class,brilliant man at dispossesing.For a man blessed with such natural ability,his work rate shows that he is not afraid to get stuck in.Cavan football needs Micky Lyng back to his best and its great to hear that he is coming back to himself.
Was at the Regional game in Drumalee yesterday.Annalee gaels(Drumalee,Denn,Ballyhaise,Killygarry and Lavey) played a mixture of about 9 clubs.the game was played at a very high tempo with some great scores from both sides.The Final score was Annalee Gaels 2-13 Sillan Gaels 1-11
Tommy Carr and Peter Reilly were both in attendance.Il try my best at the teams
Annalee Gaels
1.Paddy Galligan Kgarry
2.Darren Smith Lavey
3.Eoin Smith Kgarry
4.Eoin McPhillips Denn
5.Pauric Cahill Kgarry
6.Sean McCormack Bhaise
7.Gary Ferncombe Dlee
8.Donal Thomas Kgarry
9.Enda McCormack Dlee
10.Martin Reilly Kgarry
11.Colm Reilly Bhaise
12.Timmy Looney Dlee
13.Kevin Brady Lavey
14.Daragh Gaffney Dlee
15 Colin Kiernan Denn
Subs:Kevin Donohoe Dlee
       Brendan Murray Kgarry
Sillan Gaels(sorry not as familiar but Il give it a shot)
1.Cootehill goalkeeper
2.Martin lynch CuCus
3.Sean Mcgee Shercock
4.Colm Smith Kingscourt
5.Paddy Smith Kilinkere
6.???
7.????
8.John McCutcheon Cootehill
9.Kingscourt player???
10.Alan Clarke Kcourt
11.Sean Brady Castlerahan
12.Baileboro player Paddy???
13.John Tierney Knockbride
14.PaulMccarney Cootehill
15.Daragh???? Laragh
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on November 03, 2008, 09:48:16 PM
Well done CG.  Surprised at the result but I suppose I shouldn't believe the hype.  Well done and where will the next round be played?  Will it be a neutral venue?

Would CG have challenge games before the next round?  If they wanted one, would it be a good idea to play against a county team picked by Tommy Carr et al?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on November 03, 2008, 10:26:53 PM
Wasn't at it but I'd have an idea of the Sillan Gaels team. Glen Nulty was in goals, josh Hayes centre half and I think Mickey Reilly from Shercock was playin too so he could have been mid field
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Rasmatazz:) on November 03, 2008, 11:33:57 PM
Lets be honest people , the galls had a bad day, all the gaels boys wanted to do was fight,not for the ball but their opposite number.
They pull the jerseys off the galls boys backs, the no 14 . All he wanted to do was roll about the grass, at one stage i thought he was digging for gold, i tell yea he needs no shorts, that big baby needs a nappy :P, Lets be true, the match was played to the gaels strenghts, that is . Stop start, stop start, foul of the ball looking to get the other guy sent off , they def had the linesmen backing, Galls had lost their descipline during the 2nd half and only themselves to blame , def a bad day at the office for kicking points , but the shit happens , if gaels really want to win ulster they will have to prove that the st galls match was no fluke , me i don't think they will get past the derry boys , thay put a few boys on their backsides for sure  ;D
Good luck anyway the Rass 8)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: CC1 on November 03, 2008, 11:40:16 PM
Sour grapes eh?? I'm not a Gaels man so I don't really care how they won the game. I'm sure all that matters at the end of the day is the result... Am I right?!  ;)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Rasmatazz:) on November 03, 2008, 11:52:01 PM
But at the end off the day will that improve cavn geals chance off winning ulster, don't think so but what does show if they are best u got in cavan who are repersenting ur county then u must support that kind of football through out ur county , good luck in the future ButtHead ;D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on November 04, 2008, 08:07:54 AM
That would not be the Gaels normal style of play but they always got beat by teams playing that way against them and it looks like they have made there mind up that they are going to do whatever it takes to try and win Ulster.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: CC1 on November 04, 2008, 01:13:37 PM
Quote from: Rasmatazz:) on November 03, 2008, 11:52:01 PM
But at the end off the day will that improve cavn geals chance off winning ulster, don't think so but what does show if they are best u got in cavan who are repersenting ur county then u must support that kind of football through out ur county , good luck in the future ButtHead ;D
Butthead, nice... Shows your maturity mate.

Yes Cavan Gaels are the best we have in Cavan, and are representing our county. They are winning games in Ulster so thats all I really care about. It doesn't matter how you win as long as you win. I believe Tyrone and Armagh have proven that over the past few years. Then again, you're from Antrim, how would you know?  :P
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on November 04, 2008, 06:29:46 PM
Judging by a few reactions to the Gaels win,it seems St Galls really only thought they had to show up.Their cockiness suprises me really.I know they have contested an All-Ireland final but coming from one of the weaker counties,I dunno how they could have been so sure of themselves.Im glad to see the Gaels doing well,at last a Cavan man got to shut the smug Max up for a week or 2 anyway.As far Rassmataz,I dont think his opinion should even be heeded.
CC1 it was Glen Nulty in goals,he did well,made one great save in the 1st half.couldnt think of his name, and Joshua Hayes was playing too now ya mention it.Im not sure if it was Michael Reilly at midfield,this lad seemed to be wearing Kingscourt shorts.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: CC1 on November 04, 2008, 10:17:51 PM
Michael Reilly was wearing blue and white shorts against Bailieboro on Saturday, maybe they're the same ones? If they are he's gonna get a slagging! As for Nulty in goal, he's a fairly handy keeper alright, he's stood in goal for the Celts due to Clegg being away and has been very solid from what I've seen. Does the simple things right which is what it's all about.

As for razzmatazz, I'm actually having a bit of craic with him. He doesn't come across as the smartest guy you'd meet!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Rasmatazz:) on November 04, 2008, 11:16:29 PM
All a bit of craic cc1 aka (BUTTCHEEKS) ::)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Gold on November 04, 2008, 11:20:43 PM
Quote from: boojangles on November 04, 2008, 06:29:46 PM
Judging by a few reactions to the Gaels win,it seems St Galls really only thought they had to show up.Their cockiness suprises me really.I know they have contested an All-Ireland final but coming from one of the weaker counties,I dunno how they could have been so sure of themselves.Im glad to see the Gaels doing well,at last a Cavan man got to shut the smug Max up for a week or 2 anyway.As far Rassmataz,I dont think his opinion should even be heeded.
CC1 it was Glen Nulty in goals,he did well,made one great save in the 1st half.couldnt think of his name, and Joshua Hayes was playing too now ya mention it.Im not sure if it was Michael Reilly at midfield,this lad seemed to be wearing Kingscourt shorts.

because they have won 7 antrim's in last 8 years, won Ulster, played in 3 Ulster finals, and won Kilmacud and Castlewellen 7's twice in last 3 years
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on November 04, 2008, 11:38:28 PM
As for Nulty in goal, he's a fairly handy keeper alright, he's stood in goal for the Celts due to Clegg being away and has been very solid from what I've seen. Does the simple things right which is what it's all about.


Actually Nulty was always a goal keeper, he always played there for the seniors - he just played out the field when Clegg was in goals... Clegg didn't play this year and Glen was always going back into goals anyway.  In fairness he should have gotten a look in with the county a couple of years ago and I know he impressed several current county players at one trial a few years ago.  He is as good a keeper I've played with and I've played with a brave few inter county keepers.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on November 04, 2008, 11:46:57 PM
Quote from: Gold on November 04, 2008, 11:20:43 PM
Quote from: boojangles on November 04, 2008, 06:29:46 PM
Judging by a few reactions to the Gaels win,it seems St Galls really only thought they had to show up.Their cockiness suprises me really.I know they have contested an All-Ireland final but coming from one of the weaker counties,I dunno how they could have been so sure of themselves.Im glad to see the Gaels doing well,at last a Cavan man got to shut the smug Max up for a week or 2 anyway.As far Rassmataz,I dont think his opinion should even be heeded.
CC1 it was Glen Nulty in goals,he did well,made one great save in the 1st half.couldnt think of his name, and Joshua Hayes was playing too now ya mention it.Im not sure if it was Michael Reilly at midfield,this lad seemed to be wearing Kingscourt shorts.

because they have won 7 antrim's in last 8 years, won Ulster, played in 3 Ulster finals, Kilmacud and Castlewellen 7's twice in last 3 years
So they were sure of themselves.Credit where its due,an ulster and 3 final appearances is no mean feat in this province but Cavan Gaels have been knocking on the door for the last 7 years.They have won 7 out of the last 9 County Championships,have a list of Inter county players nearly as long as St Galls and they were always gonna b hungry after last years defeat.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: CC1 on November 05, 2008, 09:27:08 AM
Quote from: Rasmatazz:) on November 04, 2008, 11:16:29 PM
All a bit of craic cc1 aka (BUTTCHEEKS) ::)
No bother Mr Tiernan...
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: CC1 on November 05, 2008, 09:36:03 AM
Quote from: Celt_Man on November 04, 2008, 11:38:28 PM
Actually Nulty was always a goal keeper, he always played there for the seniors - he just played out the field when Clegg was in goals... Clegg didn't play this year and Glen was always going back into goals anyway.  In fairness he should have gotten a look in with the county a couple of years ago and I know he impressed several current county players at one trial a few years ago.  He is as good a keeper I've played with and I've played with a brave few inter county keepers.
Ah I wasn't really aware of that, I'm only new to the scene really. I'm the same age as Clegg so I'm not really in on who was in goals before him. So I only remember Nulty playing against us in outfield positions. Both of them are good keepers.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on November 06, 2008, 03:15:55 PM
heard from some of the lads Kevin Brady, Gary Fernacombe, Darragh Gaffney and Sean McCormack were good for Annalee at the weekend Boojangles? who in your opinion was good and looked worthy of a place on the county team.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on November 07, 2008, 09:34:00 AM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on November 06, 2008, 03:15:55 PM
heard from some of the lads Kevin Brady, Gary Fernacombe, Darragh Gaffney and Sean McCormack were good for Annalee at the weekend Boojangles? who in your opinion was good and looked worthy of a place on the county team.

Did you just read the Celt BH Man? despite what Paul Fitz from the Celt said about the intensity of the game,I can assure you the game was played at a very good pace and I only played the 2nd half!! All the lads you mentioned played very well,Gaffney looked a class apart at times.Kicking with ease off both feet.But I suppose there was some great quality ball going in.Kevin Brady showed very well too.Gary Ferncombe stood out as usual,him and Alan Clarke had a good battle.John McCutcheon and Enda McCormack also had a good battle in the middle of the field,Enda scoring a great goal in the 1st half.John Tierney came into it in the 2nd half and kicked some great scores.He still looks very unfit but his aerial ability is still superb.Martin Reilly and Mousey Kiernan were very lively and got lots of ball but alot of attempts landed in the goalies hands.Colm Smith the County Minor from Kingscourt(Phils son) did a fine job of marking Martin Reilly,both players could run all day.Im sure Tommy Carr would  been impressed with a few
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on November 07, 2008, 09:46:04 AM
Quote from: boojangles on November 07, 2008, 09:34:00 AM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on November 06, 2008, 03:15:55 PM
heard from some of the lads Kevin Brady, Gary Fernacombe, Darragh Gaffney and Sean McCormack were good for Annalee at the weekend Boojangles? who in your opinion was good and looked worthy of a place on the county team.

Did you just read the Celt BH Man? despite what Paul Fitz from the Celt said about the intensity of the game,I can assure you the game was played at a very good pace and I only played the 2nd half!! All the lads you mentioned played very well,Gaffney looked a class apart at times.Kicking with ease off both feet.But I suppose there was some great quality ball going in.Kevin Brady showed very well too.Gary Ferncombe stood out as usual,him and Alan Clarke had a good battle.John McCutcheon and Enda McCormack also had a good battle in the middle of the field,Enda scoring a great goal in the 1st half.John Tierney came into it in the 2nd half and kicked some great scores.He still looks very unfit but his aerial ability is still superb.Martin Reilly and Mousey Kiernan were very lively and got lots of ball but alot of attempts landed in the goalies hands.Colm Smith the County Minor from Kingscourt(Phils son) did a fine job of marking Martin Reilly,both players could run all day.Im sure Tommy Carr would  been impressed with a few

Was Tommy Carr at the match or just the selectors?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on November 07, 2008, 10:26:09 AM
Think boojangles mentioned a couple of pages back that both Tommy Carr and Peter Reilly were in attendance.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on November 07, 2008, 10:45:50 AM
At least it looks like there's a few new names that will at least get a trial. Thanks to all posters for keeping us exiles informed as well.

Can I assume that Tierney's participation in these games means his injuries might stand up to a tentative return to intercounty football? Before his final breakdown, Eamon Coleman really had him motoring as our target man full-forward, he even had a burst of pace for a big man as I recall. I understand he's been playing away with the club, I for one would be delighted to see him back in an intercounty shirt and the worst of his injuries behind him.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on November 07, 2008, 12:10:27 PM
Never give up hope Maniac but I wonder at this stage if John Tierney has got to the stage where it isn't going to happen at inter county level due to fitness/injuries etc. He lined out in the last Ulster Final we contested and has had very sporadic appearances in the County Jersey since then. A pity but what might be of more hope is the fact that one or two of these trial games seem to be well contested and throwing up one or two possible options for next year.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on November 07, 2008, 05:54:31 PM
Aye he might be able to plough away with the club with little or no recurrences, intercounty training and hitting etc. might be beyond him. Still, if he's taking part in these trial games he must hopeful of a return or why bother otherwise?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on November 07, 2008, 06:36:20 PM
Well he is in college in London for the year so that could put the dampener on things...
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on November 08, 2008, 05:31:03 PM
Just back from the Div 2 final in Lacken.Ramor 1-7 Redhills 0-4.I only seen the 2nd half so I cant comment too much.Firstly Congrats to Hollow Man,the stronger team won on the day,conditions were terrible with the wind and rain playing havoc.As my father said on the way out-Redhills tried to play Summer football on a Winters day.Ramor played the more direct football and their stronger back-line kept it tight.Ramor also counteracted Redhils 3rd midfielder Ciaran West well by letting his man(Damien Barkey) roam up the field,Barkey hit 1-1 from play in the 2nd half.Redhills are still very young and will take time to adapt to Senior football,Ramor on the other hand looked that bit more experienced and more composed on the ball.
An interesting thing to note is that now for the 1st time since the league format was changed in the county about 6? years ago,there will be no Senior team playing in Division 2.Ramor and Redhills are promoted and Knockbride have been relegated from Senior.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on November 09, 2008, 05:03:33 PM
Laragh beat Swad,2-12 to 1-7 I think it was.Swad started very well hitting 1-2 in 1st few minutes but faded very badly after.Laragh deserved their win.So its Swad V Drumalee next week to see who goes Junior. Have to say that Oliver Og from Mullahoran who refereed the game was an absolute disgrace in the 2nd half.I know Oliver personally and he is a nice fella but how the man is still getting games of such importance is a terrible indictment of the County Board.Is it gonna take some young lad to get his leg broke or jaw broke before the County Board do something about the standard of refereeing? we have some quality referees in the county who referee at Inter-county level,but when they show up to referee a Club league game,they think they are above it and end up making a balls of it.Joe McQuillan automatically springs to mind there.Some referees are only out to settle old scores and have a hatred of some clubs.Then we have the like of Oliver Og who should never be let near a football field.Don't get me wrong,A referees job is a thankless one and they are never gonna please everybody but some of the standard of refereeing I have seen this year would do nothing to encourage young lads to stick at the game.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Swadman on November 10, 2008, 08:47:50 AM
You are spot on Boojangles. Laragh were the better team on the day. Swad looked like a team that hadn't played football for 3 months, (come to think of it, they hadn't)  but Oliver Og didn't help maters. He red carded M.C. for lip in the C/ship game v Kill and yesterday did the same after disalowing a goal for Swad. Up to that there wasn't a card or tick for some hefty personal fouling by both sides. "Some referees are only out to settle old scores and have a hatred of some clubs." you said, smacks of it with our Oliver. He lost the plot ater that and blew it up 2 to 3 mins early, not that Swad were ever going to get back into it at that stage.
See you next week!!!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on November 10, 2008, 12:23:38 PM
Anyone know when the county is going back training. It is normally November when they start doing a bit in the gym isn't it.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: CC1 on November 10, 2008, 01:51:24 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on November 10, 2008, 12:23:38 PM
Anyone know when the county is going back training. It is normally November when they start doing a bit in the gym isn't it.
Not sure myself. I do know that there are some rules against starting training so early now though. Seemingly any county breaching these rules will be fined.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on November 10, 2008, 01:56:05 PM
Our own HaiseMan already has a thread on this http://gaaboard.com/board/index.php?topic=10038.0

Can't see it making much difference as counties will always find a way of getting around this. You can expect the county boys to be in the gym come December.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on November 10, 2008, 06:08:51 PM
Went down memory lane or rather the road from Ballyhaise to Redhills and went past the old Changing rooms for the Flagon Field (I think).  Always remember it during Summer evenings when playing underage football.  Bordered on one side by a fence and the other by a river hidden by trees.  How long since Ballyhaise moved into town?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cornafean on November 11, 2008, 10:40:10 AM
Down played Cavan to officially open their new field in the village in early summer 1992. They were AI champions at the time.

They may have had been in the new field for a little while prior to its official opening.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on November 11, 2008, 02:19:53 PM
Remember playing one of my 1st games of football out in the old Flaggon bottom as we used to call it.No dressing rooms that I remember.Some change for Ballyhaise to move to the new field.I believe that Ballyhaise is the 2nd widest pitch in the country.Not sure obviously but I was definitely told that.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on November 11, 2008, 02:38:59 PM
Quote from: boojangles on November 11, 2008, 02:19:53 PM
Remember playing one of my 1st games of football out in the old Flaggon bottom as we used to call it.No dressing rooms that I remember.Some change for Ballyhaise to move to the new field.I believe that Ballyhaise is the 2nd widest pitch in the country.Not sure obviously but I was definitely told that.

Wouldn't be suprised if it was.  Crossmaglen have a new pitch now which is suposed to be longer and wider than Croke Park.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on November 11, 2008, 03:37:13 PM
I always hated playing on that huge pitch of theirs. Far too much running on it for my liking. Anyone remember Templeports old field before they moved into the fancy new one or even Shannon Gaels one. Jaysus, they were kips.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Babe Ruth 47 on November 12, 2008, 12:36:32 AM
Corlough's old field was something to behold too. A stand that could cater for 8 people, a field like a dirt bike track, and a shough the size of the grand canyon running along one side of it. Seeemed to be surrounded by boglands. It still can be seen on the road to their new field, of which i am extremely jealous!!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on November 12, 2008, 09:50:27 AM
Quote from: Babe Ruth 47 on November 12, 2008, 12:36:32 AM
Corlough's old field was something to behold too. A stand that could cater for 8 people, a field like a dirt bike track, and a shough the size of the grand canyon running along one side of it. Seeemed to be surrounded by boglands. It still can be seen on the road to their new field, of which i am extremely jealous!!
The county was blessed with some amazing pitches.I think of all the old fields I played on, the worst had to be Drumlanes,it had a large drain or shough running straight through it.Swanlinbars old field was a gem too.I remember getting relegated to Division 3 playing on that field one year around 7 years ago.Hope history doesnt repeat itself!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on November 12, 2008, 09:50:36 AM
McKenna Cup Draw...

Dr McKenna Cup draw: Group A - Fermanagh, Derry, UUJ, Donegal; Group B - Tyrone, Monaghan, Down, St. Mary's; Group C - Armagh, Cavan, Antrim, Queen's University. Semi-final draw - Group A winners v best runners-up. Group B winners v Group C winners.

Nice group to start TC off.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Swadman on November 13, 2008, 11:13:11 PM
Ah....the memories. I remember playing Shannon Gaels in the early 80's. We had to move the sheep off it before the start. It seemed like playing up the north face of the Eiger with a great big lump of stone around the 20 yard line whick everyone just accepted and played around. The worst place, however, had to be Butlersbridge. Not sheep but cows had to be moved and they would duly sh*t the place in protest at being moved off their patch. They also left one foot deep potholes where, if you were unlucky, you could go to your kneecaps in muck. Come to think of it, its not a whole lot better now.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on November 14, 2008, 07:06:33 PM
Best of luck to Swadman and Swad and Boojangles and Drumalee this weekend,

Best of luck to the Gaels who will be seriously up against it,against Ballinderry,i think Ballinderry will have a couple of pints to spare but hopefully the Gaels lads can prove us wrong yet again.

Best of luck to Trillick on Sunday in the Intermediate,

Yep im a sore loser!!!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on November 15, 2008, 10:54:41 PM
Well thank God that year is over.Annus Horibulus if I ever heard of it.We bet Swad 3-11 to 0-9 in Bawnboy.Scoreline probably doesnt do Swad justice.We only started to play after we got the 1st goal in the 2nd half.But we'r safe and thats all that matters.
Just back from the regional game in Kingscourt( don't get me started) East Cavan Gaels bet us (Annalee Gaels) by 8 points.We only had 11 players.Very disappointing,nobody from Denn and obviously the Gaels. As bad as our game was,I heard the other one in Mullahoran was a farce.11 a side 20 minutes a half.Tommy Carr not too impressed. And we wonder why Cavan football is in the state its in.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on November 16, 2008, 10:05:00 AM
Quote from: boojangles on November 15, 2008, 10:54:41 PM
Well thank God that year is over.Annus Horibulus if I ever heard of it.We bet Swad 3-11 to 0-9 in Bawnboy.Scoreline probably doesnt do Swad justice.We only started to play after we got the 1st goal in the 2nd half.But we'r safe and thats all that matters.
Just back from the regional game in Kingscourt( don't get me started) East Cavan Gaels bet us (Annalee Gaels) by 8 points.We only had 11 players.Very disappointing,nobody from Denn and obviously the Gaels. As bad as our game was,I heard the other one in Mullahoran was a farce.11 a side 20 minutes a half.Tommy Carr not too impressed. And we wonder why Cavan football is in the state its in.

Jesus Christ that is a total disgrace. Tommy Carr must be wondering what sort of a place he has come to. Where does the blame lie for this fiasco. Is it the organisers? Is it the clubs themselves that are not making the effort? Or is it that there aren't enough players out there with the ambition to play for Cavan.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Swadman on November 16, 2008, 11:11:07 AM
Yes BJ, Drumalee deserved the win for your 2nd half performance. I thought we had a chance when it was 5 a piece at half time but we missed 2 goal chances and you took yours well. One of your backs made a great goal line clearance when your goalie (header!!) was beaten and the ball heading for the net. That would have put us 4 points up but the goals went in at the other end and I could see our lads drop the heads after that. That young number 12 kept Drumalee in it in the 1st half, he's very quick.
The truth is we are a junior team and will be competitive there. It would have been no good for us winning yesterday and having the same old relegation battle at the end of next year again.

Only 11 a side at the regional games ?? Are we copying yet another aspect of soccer ??? Tommy Carr must have felt like Trappatoni !!!
Seriously though, Myles has it spot on,  "there aren't enough players out there with the ambition to play for Cavan." and its too late in a long year for this.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on November 16, 2008, 04:28:40 PM
Quote from: Swadman on November 16, 2008, 11:11:07 AM
Yes BJ, Drumalee deserved the win for your 2nd half performance. I thought we had a chance when it was 5 a piece at half time but we missed 2 goal chances and you took yours well. One of your backs made a great goal line clearance when your goalie (header!!) was beaten and the ball heading for the net. That would have put us 4 points up but the goals went in at the other end and I could see our lads drop the heads after that. That young number 12 kept Drumalee in it in the 1st half, he's very quick.
The truth is we are a junior team and will be competitive there. It would have been no good for us winning yesterday and having the same old relegation battle at the end of next year again.

Only 11 a side at the regional games ?? Are we copying yet another aspect of soccer ??? Tommy Carr must have felt like Trappatoni !!!
Seriously though, Myles has it spot on,  "there aren't enough players out there with the ambition to play for Cavan." and its too late in a long year for this.

Spot on Swadman,Swad definitely showed alot more heart yesterday than the week previous and yas definitely threw everything at us in the 1st half.Our defence was a bit shaky including myself but our extra fitness probably showed in the 2nd half.Our wee number 12 John O Connor gave your wing-back a torrid time,he has serious pace and a great dummy.Pity he's not 4 inches bigger.I got that feeling from a few of your players yesterday that yas were probably happy enough going back down.Yas have some good young footballers coming along,no reason why yas cant push for a Junior Championship again.Gearoid Mc Kiernan is a good prospect but the lad will need alot of coaching,He is very selfish and he is inclined to lose the head far too easy.He got sent off in the last 2 minutes yesterday for a stupid box in front of the stand.
Where was Michael Cunningham?
These regional games are a great idea if run properly.A manager should be chosen for each region at the start of the year or at least before the Championship,let him then choose who he thinks is good enough from each region.Then when each region has a panel picked,they should train
collectively for even 2 weeks and then the matches should start.But I suppose at this time of the year at the end of a long season,there isnt too many who are interested.But the Question is,Will Tommy Carr reward the lads who put in the effort and showed up and showed that they want to play for Cavan or will he go with the usual lads who have got umpteen chances at Inter-County level but couldnt be bothered to show up on a winters evening?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Maximus Marillius on November 17, 2008, 12:02:56 PM
Any of you footballing whizz kids at yesterdays mauling of Cavan Gaels  by Derry club Ballinderry. Have to say i didn't bet on this game...the bookies weren't giving odds that would have encouraged me to bet. The Gaels were truely awful
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on November 17, 2008, 12:16:00 PM
Quote from: boojangles on November 16, 2008, 04:28:40 PM
But the Question is,Will Tommy Carr reward the lads who put in the effort and showed up and showed that they want to play for Cavan or will he go with the usual lads who have got umpteen chances at Inter-County level but couldnt be bothered to show up on a winters evening?

That will tell the tale alright. TC made an early point about only bringing along players who show the commitment. I for one would support him if he took the long term view and went with a panel of raw, young, committed lads with whatever sprinkling of players from the current panel retain their place, getting rid of whoever can't/won't commit to a strict regime. I honestly think we'd be better off after two years than if we keep taking the short term view.

It'll also indicate just how strict he plans on being. Anything less and it'll be an immediate signal from Carr that he will talk the talk but perhaps not follow up with stern action. Interesting times.

Very disappointing news about poor turnouts at the matches. It shows the depth to which the whole thing has been allowed sink. Even in our darkest days of yore the lads were always mad to pull on the blue jersey. Hopefully it's not terminal.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on November 17, 2008, 12:35:28 PM
Quote from: Maximus Marillius on November 17, 2008, 12:02:56 PM
Any of you footballing whizz kids at yesterdays mauling of Cavan Gaels  by Derry club Ballinderry. Have to say i didn't bet on this game...the bookies weren't giving odds that would have encouraged me to bet. The Gaels were truely awful

Didn't bother go Max - sure I knew they were going to get hammered :D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Maximus Marillius on November 17, 2008, 12:51:41 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on November 17, 2008, 12:35:28 PM
Quote from: Maximus Marillius on November 17, 2008, 12:02:56 PM
Any of you footballing whizz kids at yesterdays mauling of Cavan Gaels  by Derry club Ballinderry. Have to say i didn't bet on this game...the bookies weren't giving odds that would have encouraged me to bet. The Gaels were truely awful

Didn't bother go Max - sure I knew they were going to get hammered :D

Myles to be honest I was shocked as I wasnt expecting it
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on November 17, 2008, 12:57:56 PM
Quote from: Maximus Marillius on November 17, 2008, 12:51:41 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on November 17, 2008, 12:35:28 PM
Quote from: Maximus Marillius on November 17, 2008, 12:02:56 PM
Any of you footballing whizz kids at yesterdays mauling of Cavan Gaels  by Derry club Ballinderry. Have to say i didn't bet on this game...the bookies weren't giving odds that would have encouraged me to bet. The Gaels were truely awful

Didn't bother go Max - sure I knew they were going to get hammered :D

Myles to be honest I was shocked as I wasnt expecting it
Shocked,since when have you been shocked about the lack of quality of Cavan teams? Pull the other one.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on November 17, 2008, 01:01:32 PM
In all seriousness it was a shocking result. 5 each at half time and then a hammering in the 2nd half. Did johnstone play or go off injured?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Maximus Marillius on November 17, 2008, 01:02:09 PM
Boo shocked because I saw them beat St Galls...they didnt even resemble the team that beat St galls.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on November 17, 2008, 02:09:16 PM
Johnston went off injured in the first half Myles,i believe he kicked 0-1 before leaving with a reoccurance of the hamstring injury.

young minor Robert Maloney Derham came on for him.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on November 17, 2008, 02:48:00 PM
I didnt go up to Armagh yesterday,wasnt in Casement either so wasnt gonna hop on the bandwagon.My father and brother both travelled.1st half was fairly even,all but 1 score coming from play.Johnston and Paul O Donnell both had to come off injured after about 10 minutes.Both being replaced by Minors.2nd half was a completely different story.Gaels played stupid tactics with only 2 inside forwards and Lyng coming back far too deep.Gaels had 5 Minors on at one stage yesterday.Only Anthony Forde played well for the Gaels.Enda King tried hard as usual but the Midfield was dominated by the Derry men.
Some people are blaming the fact that the Gaels had to play the League final last weekend and they were sluggish as a result,I cant take that as an excuse.The Gaels have enough talent in reserve that could have competed, and probably beat Cucuhalinns last weekend. Surely the Ulster match should be the priority,and resting a few like Johnston would have been the wise thing to do.Like how many League titles have the Gaels won now?Did the Gaels look to have that game called off last weekend?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Maximus Marillius on November 17, 2008, 02:51:41 PM
Quote from: boojangles on November 17, 2008, 02:48:00 PM
I didnt go up to Armagh yesterday,wasnt in Casement either so wasnt gonna hop on the bandwagon.My father and brother both travelled.1st half was fairly even,all but 1 score coming from play.Johnston and Paul O Donnell both had to come off injured after about 10 minutes.Both being replaced by Minors.2nd half was a completely different story.Gaels played stupid tactics with only 2 inside forwards and Lyng coming back far too deep.Gaels had 5 Minors on at one stage yesterday.Only Anthony Forde played well for the Gaels.Enda King tried hard as usual but the Midfield was dominated by the Derry men.
Some people are blaming the fact that the Gaels had to play the League final last weekend and they were sluggish as a result,I cant take that as an excuse.The Gaels have enough talent in reserve that could have competed, and probably beat Cucuhalinns last weekend. Surely the Ulster match should be the priority,and resting a few like Johnston would have been the wise thing to do.Like how many League titles have the Gaels won now?Did the Gaels look to have that game called off last weekend?

ballinderry were down to play the ;ast league game of the season last weekend, if they had won it they had the league won...guess what?...they conceded the game. Tells its own story of priorities.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on November 17, 2008, 03:14:18 PM
Quote from: Maximus Marillius on November 17, 2008, 02:51:41 PM
Quote from: boojangles on November 17, 2008, 02:48:00 PM
I didnt go up to Armagh yesterday,wasnt in Casement either so wasnt gonna hop on the bandwagon.My father and brother both travelled.1st half was fairly even,all but 1 score coming from play.Johnston and Paul O Donnell both had to come off injured after about 10 minutes.Both being replaced by Minors.2nd half was a completely different story.Gaels played stupid tactics with only 2 inside forwards and Lyng coming back far too deep.Gaels had 5 Minors on at one stage yesterday.Only Anthony Forde played well for the Gaels.Enda King tried hard as usual but the Midfield was dominated by the Derry men.
Some people are blaming the fact that the Gaels had to play the League final last weekend and they were sluggish as a result,I cant take that as an excuse.The Gaels have enough talent in reserve that could have competed, and probably beat Cucuhalinns last weekend. Surely the Ulster match should be the priority,and resting a few like Johnston would have been the wise thing to do.Like how many League titles have the Gaels won now?Did the Gaels look to have that game called off last weekend?

ballinderry were down to play the ;ast league game of the season last weekend, if they had won it they had the league won...guess what?...they conceded the game. Tells its own story of priorities.
Point proven.The Gaels should not have been risking most of their 1st team last weekend.That was the Gaels best chance of winning an Ulster or at least getting to a final in the last 10 years.A league Final should not have got in the way.Derry County Board didnt call off the game for them,but Ballinderry didnt let that get in the way.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on November 17, 2008, 04:27:54 PM
I see Saint Pats Cavan have failed to build on their opening win over Omagh CBS in the McRory.

Beaten by St. Pat's Armagh and St. Mary's of Belfast by 12 and 18 points respectively in their most recent games. :-[
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on November 17, 2008, 08:06:24 PM
Anyone know how Redhills did in their game?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on November 17, 2008, 08:12:07 PM
Quote from: Denn Forever on November 17, 2008, 08:06:24 PM
Anyone know how Redhills did in their game?

They lost to Trillic but not sure by how much
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: milltown row on November 17, 2008, 08:20:44 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on November 14, 2008, 09:38:18 AM
Quote from: milltown row on November 13, 2008, 09:57:23 PM
he's a forward player!!!

if Jonstone is injured then i fear for Cavan Gaels

So forwards don't defend now! Have you missed the last 10 yrs of Ulster Football.

so he must have stayed up front this week ;)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on November 17, 2008, 08:27:00 PM
Quote from: cavanmaniac on November 17, 2008, 04:27:54 PM
I see Saint Pats Cavan have failed to build on their opening win over Omagh CBS in the McRory.

Beaten by St. Pat's Armagh and St. Mary's of Belfast by 12 and 18 points respectively in their most recent games. :-[
Not sure what went on there. I believe that they were missing most of their best players because of some of the recent club fixtures.Minor finals,Senior games etc.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on November 18, 2008, 10:46:11 AM
This fixture bullshit really annoys my hole. Cavan were out of the championship in June or whatever and yet we still only managed to play our senior final in mid October or something. Every year around this time, the county board seem to pile in various competitions that have been mothballed and long fingered all year, if there was streamlining in all counties there'd be much more room for more fixtures and players would be freed up for alot more important competitions. I'm no longer based at home and not a player but that's how it looks from afar anyway...
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on November 18, 2008, 10:51:59 AM
Quote from: cavanmaniac on November 18, 2008, 10:46:11 AM
This fixture bullshit really annoys my hole. Cavan were out of the championship in June or whatever and yet we still only managed to play our senior final in mid October or something. Every year around this time, the county board seem to pile in various competitions that have been mothballed and long fingered all year, if there was streamlining in all counties there'd be much more room for more fixtures and players would be freed up for alot more important competitions. I'm no longer based at home and not a player but that's how it looks from afar anyway...

The senior final does be fixed from the start of the year for October.  The majority of county finals are played in September/October.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on November 18, 2008, 12:22:37 PM
Yes I realised that but surely Cavan - and all other county boards - could have their championships finished off earlier. I'm asking, not stating. I would be fairly sure there were large tracts of the summer where clubs were idle and even when the county team exited the championship, there seemed to be no hurry to keep the games coming thick and fast. Is that not what players would want (again, asking).

I dunno, I just reckon tighter scheduling all round would leave ample room for whatever other championships have to be finished, as well as Interprovincials and International Rules? After all, this is not the opportune time of the year to be playing finals and so on.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on November 18, 2008, 04:46:13 PM
Quote from: cavanmaniac on November 18, 2008, 12:22:37 PM
Yes I realised that but surely Cavan - and all other county boards - could have their championships finished off earlier. I'm asking, not stating. I would be fairly sure there were large tracts of the summer where clubs were idle and even when the county team exited the championship, there seemed to be no hurry to keep the games coming thick and fast. Is that not what players would want (again, asking).

I dunno, I just reckon tighter scheduling all round would leave ample room for whatever other championships have to be finished, as well as Interprovincials and International Rules? After all, this is not the opportune time of the year to be playing finals and so on.

Maniac has a point. Cavan Gaels finished up the championship 2 weeks before there 1st game in the Ulster Club. Cavan exited the championship at 1st round stage. Tyrone won the All Ireland and their county championship is finished and ready for Ulster Club. How can that be?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on November 19, 2008, 12:57:32 AM
The Problem is lads,

The Master Fixture list has the Championship down for starting in Late July,

Even though Cavan are Anually out of the championship in Mid June,

you're then left with maybe 5/6 weeks free,Without league games for alot of teams aswell.

If the County Board tried bringing the championship forward, Clubs would object that their training was set for them to peak in Late July,Lads were taking holidays etc etc.


Id prefer a championship starting in May and Finishing in Late August,
Season is far too long from January-October(County Final day) and then it finally ends in October/November with League games and Under 21 Finals.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on November 19, 2008, 10:51:56 AM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on November 19, 2008, 12:57:32 AM
The Problem is lads,

The Master Fixture list has the Championship down for starting in Late July,

Even though Cavan are Anually out of the championship in Mid June,

you're then left with maybe 5/6 weeks free,Without league games for alot of teams aswell.

Crazy stuff, and I expect it's the norm in most counties judging by the slew of county finals around October time. If Croke Park grasped the nettle they could regulate club fixtures within counties because by the looks of things the boards aren't really up to doing an efficient job.
It makes me laugh when I hear about fixture congestion and there being no room for the Interprovincial Fixtures and so on...there'd be plenty of boards weren't leaving six week chunks of the summer idle. I thought there was something brought in a few years ago about the number of weeks boards could leave teams idle but I guess they're getting around this by playing off less meaningful league games and leaving the championships in cold storage?
It's make more sense to me to have the SFC wrapped up by late August like the man says and then use the next month for finishing off leagues and what have you, to keep the SFC winners sharp for the club championships.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Mr. Pain on November 19, 2008, 11:30:03 AM
Quote from: cavanmaniac on November 18, 2008, 10:46:11 AM
This fixture bullshit really annoys my hole.

Interesting. Perhaps you should take something for that.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on November 21, 2008, 10:41:18 AM
I heard Bernard Morris is the new Gowna manager. Did he leave the Nagh on good terms or was there a falling out? I know Gowna are his club and all but surely he has not done his management career any favour by leaving an up and coming team to join one on the way down.

Mr pain - I think you can do better than that reply, don't start becoming Hollow Man No 2.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on November 21, 2008, 11:08:15 AM
No big falling out or anything just time to move on. Would wish him every success with Gowna in the future.

So who next for Ballinagh? Mickey Graham seems to be mentioned by a few. Would be a good choice in my opinion but I don't know how possible it would be with him still involved with the minors.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on November 21, 2008, 11:59:29 AM
Quote from: Homer on November 21, 2008, 11:08:15 AM
No big falling out or anything just time to move on. Would wish him every success with Gowna in the future.

So who next for Ballinagh? Mickey Graham seems to be mentioned by a few. Would be a good choice in my opinion but I don't know how possible it would be with him still involved with the minors.

I'd say Thomas Jackson will be looking for a team  :D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on November 21, 2008, 01:23:54 PM
Quote from: Homer on November 21, 2008, 11:08:15 AM
No big falling out or anything just time to move on. Would wish him every success with Gowna in the future.

So who next for Ballinagh? Mickey Graham seems to be mentioned by a few. Would be a good choice in my opinion but I don't know how possible it would be with him still involved with the minors.
It definitely seems like a backward step for Morris.But I suppose there may have been pressure on from Gowna to come back and try and steady the ship.As bad as Gowna may seem,any team that can call on McCabe,McKeever,Pierson,Paddy Brady and Niall Madden isnt in too bad of a position.
Its a big decision for Ballinagh who they get in next.They have a wealth of talent aroung 18-21 coming through that needs to be managed very carefully.A bad decision could set them back 2 or 3 years.Drumalee know all about that.
I feel Ballinagh if they get in a top-class manager they could really improve.I know Morris won alot with Ballinagh and was a great success but I still feel he was a little naive on the line.If Ballinagh got a top class Coach and a very astute man along the line they could be Senior contenders in 2 years. I believe that Cian Mc and a few are heading away to Oz,I suppose thats gonna be happening in every club though the way its gone around here.The new man will have to get Gaynor back to his best,I know that he has a few niggling injuries that has to be sorted over the winter but he is back living at home now so that can only be a good thing.Who knows? We mite even see him in a Blue jersey next year????
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on November 26, 2008, 03:40:14 PM
This year cant end soon enough.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on November 26, 2008, 04:49:09 PM
Keep up BH Man, I've been saying that since April! :'(
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on November 26, 2008, 08:13:31 PM
well the County was fucked since April Maniac

dont know how your home club done,

But its been a nightmare, 2 Finals lost and relegation,

Someone wake me up January 1st.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on November 26, 2008, 08:56:00 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on November 26, 2008, 03:40:14 PM
This year cant end soon enough.
Head up BH Man.in 2005, we lost an Intermediate Championship final,a Junior Championship final and an Under 21 Semi-Final to Ballinagh after extra-time. we came back the next year and won the Intermediate and Under 21 double. I doubt Gerry O Rourke will be back with yas next year anyway but Id really despair if I was him, looking at his record in finals. Is the man cursed?
I couldnt speak highly enough of Gerry in terms of motivation and team preparation,he just needs a bit of savvy on the line.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on November 27, 2008, 03:46:39 PM
Saw this in the Indo, at the end of an article in which Tommy Carr is bemonaing the ban on games in November and December.

"Carr got some good news as senior squad members like Dermot McCabe and Larry Reilly have expressed an interest in returning in 2009 but says he will be looking to give youth a chance.

"We have a three-year plan going in there. A guy of 32 or 33 doesn't have a big future in front of him. But certainly I think that everybody that is willing to have a positive contribution to the panel we are interested in. There aren't many counties with oodles of talent and I think you need everything that you can get."

Stand by, Larry's coming back. (Or to translate, Cavan for Sam!).
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on November 28, 2008, 01:47:34 PM
No mention of Larry here. I am glad to see a couple of the older guys there, it is almost impossible to win with only young lads. A couple of wiser heads, even if just at training, will help them along. As long as the wise heads aren't acting the maggot of course.

I think Carr could still work with McCabe for FF. I think he has to start telling Dermot that he can't just stand on the edge of the small box and wait for the ball to drop in his hands. He needs to be moving like Donaghy does for Kerry. Obviously his movement is not going to be at Donaghys level but if a good plan is put in place I don't see why he couldn't cause serious problems in there. Jason has been a good servant but I can't see him making an impact, he'll be just a panel member. If Larry can get some fitness and weight off he could be good for the final 10-15 minutes of a match for some injection of pace when others are fading. Forde probably has something to offer too.

We need those younger players that have been on the panel for a good few years now to step up to the plate and be the new leaders. Mckeever, Flanagan, Lyng etc are the boys I'm talking about.



From Hoganstand....


Carr wants veteran duo to continue
28 November 2008


New Cavan football manager Tommy Carr is eager for Dermot McCabe and Jason O'Reilly to extend their inter-county careers.

The veteran duo, who were members of the Breffni County's Ulster championship winning side in 1997 (McCabe received an All-Star award that year), have already spoken to Carr and have confirmed their intention to remain involved next year.

The former Dublin and Roscommon boss said: "I spoke to Dermot. I think what tends to happen in these counties is that fellas that are 31, 32, 33, if they are not spoken to, then they just disappear type of thing.

"It can be a cold enough end to your career when nobody contacts you or asks you what you want to do. But I think Dermot is anxious to stay.

"We will have to discuss his role within it all. He is very keen and anxious to give it another go."
The Mullingar resident added: "I spoke to Jason and he is very anxious to stay.

"We said we have a three-year plan going in there and a guy of 32 or 33 doesn't have a big future ahead of him, let's be honest.

"But certainly everyone that is willing to have a positive influence on the panel and make a contribution then most certainly interests me. There are counties out there with oodles of talent and I think you need everything you can get."
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on November 28, 2008, 05:36:33 PM
Dermot, Larry, Jason. Is it fair to say Mr Carr has not been bowled over by the emerging talent from the trial games then..........?

In fairness I think McCabe still has a bit to offer. Larry might have a thing to prove after being discarded by DK last year. Boils down to what sort of an influence they will have on the panel as a whole. One or two of the stalwarts would have had question marks in the past in that area. Good test of Carrs management skills coming up.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on November 28, 2008, 09:51:58 PM
Yeh its Jason not Larry,
i dont mind having the likes of McCabe,Jayo or Forde around,but none of them should be assured of their places.

Its time for the likes of

Michael Hannon
Nicholas Walsh
Sean Brady
Darren Rabbitte(if he can stay fit)
Michael Lyng
Paul Brady
and Seanie J to become the backbone of this team
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on November 30, 2008, 11:30:12 PM
How old is Dooher?  32 -33?  The whole Tyrone team was quite old so I reckon if you are good enough and hungry enough, play.

When will the panel be finalised?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on December 01, 2008, 12:05:46 AM
Quote from: Denn Forever on November 30, 2008, 11:30:12 PM
How old is Dooher?  32 -33?  The whole Tyrone team was quite old so I reckon if you are good enough and hungry enough, play.

When will the panel be finalised?
the panel should be finalised in the next week.There were 2 final trials last Saturday and this weekend and also the regional final on today so they should have the panel well picked by now.Training starting next week I believe.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on December 01, 2008, 05:00:15 PM
I heard a rumour that Mickey Graham is the new Ballyhaise manager. Any truth in that BHM? Would be a good appointment for ye.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on December 02, 2008, 12:29:09 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on December 01, 2008, 05:00:15 PM
I heard a rumour that Mickey Graham is the new Ballyhaise manager. Any truth in that BHM? Would be a good appointment for ye.
Its true
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: PhilsJemmysField on December 02, 2008, 05:21:17 PM
Any word from match on Sunday in Drumalee  did anybody put their best foot forward for a stab at the county
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on December 02, 2008, 10:30:29 PM
Cavan V Fermanagh Clones
Cavan V Down Athletic Grounds

Heard this on radio this evening .  what is wrong with Newry, Enniskillen or Cavan as venues,

All seem a bit odd 2 me
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on December 02, 2008, 11:13:07 PM
Quote from: cavan4ever on December 02, 2008, 10:30:29 PM
Cavan V Fermanagh Clones
Cavan V Down Athletic Grounds

Heard this on radio this evening .  what is wrong with Newry, Enniskillen or Cavan as venues,

All seem a bit odd 2 me

I'm almost certain that is wrong. If fermanagh get through it is in Breffni. If Down in Newry. Where did you hear that?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on December 03, 2008, 02:14:08 AM
Cavan V Fermanagh Breffini
Cavan V Down Newry

Myles as Bjangles already told you, its true, Im absolutely ecstatic about the appointment,
He pushed a Drumalee team which wasnt very far from the summit over the top,Im hoping he can do the same with us.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on December 03, 2008, 08:33:56 AM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on December 02, 2008, 11:13:07 PM
Quote from: cavan4ever on December 02, 2008, 10:30:29 PM
Cavan V Fermanagh Clones
Cavan V Down Athletic Grounds

Heard this on radio this evening .  what is wrong with Newry, Enniskillen or Cavan as venues,

All seem a bit odd 2 me

I'm almost certain that is wrong. If fermanagh get through it is in Breffni. If Down in Newry. Where did you hear that?

Heard it on Northern Sound seen the venues on the Hoganstand now,  i dunno how they can get things so wrong.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on December 03, 2008, 11:43:39 AM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on December 03, 2008, 02:14:08 AM
Cavan V Fermanagh Breffini
Cavan V Down Newry

Myles as Bjangles already told you, its true, Im absolutely ecstatic about the appointment,
He pushed a Drumalee team which wasnt very far from the summit over the top,Im hoping he can do the same with us.
We definitely went over the top,we havent come back since!!!!
Is that the Championship fixture and venues??
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on December 03, 2008, 02:13:03 PM
id imagine it would be,
last year it was Antrim V Cavan in Belfast in Prelim

if Antrim had to have won,It would be an Armagh "Home" Fixture,
as Cavan won it was a Cavan home fixture.

Its bullshit if it has been changed.

Athletic Grounds couldnt hold a Cavan V Down game anyway.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on December 03, 2008, 04:42:41 PM
I think it would be a farce if the venue changed. Whats the point in developing your ground if you get no games in it?

BBC had the origincal details of the draw  - see the link below....

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/northern_ireland/gaelic_games/7760247.stm
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Swadman on December 03, 2008, 11:10:33 PM
Cool the jets, Myles. Youe are mixing up Football and Hurling. In the hurling championship Fermanagh will play Cavan in Brewster. In football, if they meet, it will be in Breffni.
Ulster Hurling Championship
First round (9 May)
Fermanagh v Cavan (Enniskillen)
Donegal v Tyrone (Letterkenny)
Armagh v Monaghan (Athletic Grounds)

Ulster Football Championship
6 June: Cavan v Fermanagh (Kingspan Breffni Park) or Down (Pairc Esler)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on December 08, 2008, 02:02:44 PM
Anyone have any news?  The Mckenna cup squad must be going to be named soon.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on December 08, 2008, 05:00:39 PM
No news I'm afraid but am looking forward with interest to the naming of the panel. Will be the first real opportunity to assess Tommy Carr's ideas, albeit with a health warning given that it'll be a 30-man panel and only the McKenna Cup after all.

I didn't see any of the regional games, did anyone unheard of step up to the mark, can any one here reveal?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on December 08, 2008, 05:49:11 PM
Final trial games were held over the last few weekends.The management outlined that they wanted to have a panel picked for the 1st week or so of December.Tommy Carr spoke a bit about what he was looking for, such as team work,communication,work rate etc.The trial I was at 2 weeks ago was very loose with a few suspects trying to do it all themselves.Fitness levels wouldnt have been the best with alot of us but I thought that David Givney from Mountnugent really impressed,Paddy Gumley also showed well.Lorcan Mulvey looked good on the ball as usual.Its hard to know if there will be that many new faces called in.Most of the lads at that trial would have been on the County panel at some stage over the last few years.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on December 08, 2008, 07:55:08 PM
HAD things worked out differently, Nicholas Walsh would be alongside Tadhg Kennelly offering advice to the host of Irish youngsters about to try their hand in the Australian Football League.

As the 21st century dawned, Walsh was Cavan's -- and possibly the country's -- brightest up-and-coming Gaelic football talent. So much so that he was handed the impressive honour of being selected on the Irish U-17 International Rules teams for two successive years, in 1999 and 2000.

At that stage, clubs and counties were more naive about the shop window that those underage tests against an AFL selection were. Unwittingly, the GAA had shone a spotlight on some of the country's finest young players by bringing them together in one convenient location for AFL clubs to scout. Departures were inevitable and Walsh was quickly spotted and signed by the Melbourne Demons.

And with the recruitment of some of the best young players again in the headlines, Walsh's story is perhaps more relevant now than ever. After he captained the Irish side against the Aussies in 2000, he received a telephone call while on his way home from school. Representatives from the Demons were in his Cavan home waiting to speak to him about a possible move Down Under.

Some months earlier, he had performed well in a trial co-hosted by the Melbourne club and the Western Bulldogs. Naturally, his parents were unsure about letting the then 17-year-old move to the other side of the world to pursue a professional career in a sport that was alien to him, but Walsh's ambition was such that they finally relented and agreed to a contract with the club.

Unfortunately, it was that same ambition and drive that ultimately proved to be his undoing. Eager to catch up with the more physically developed Aussies of his age, Walsh pushed his young body to extremes, to the point where it simply couldn't cope with the demands he placed on it.

Osteitis pubis (OP) set in on the Cavan youngster, a condition that can render sufferers incapable of sustained physical activity. In other words, his core muscles couldn't carry the bulk he had managed to build up quite quickly in Australia. With no established cure, the Cavan man's days as a professional athlete were numbered.

"I was taking extra sessions at every opportunity," Walsh recalled. "More kicking and more weights, every chance I got. I thought it would help bring me on quicker and help me improve, but in reality my body broke down from the inside out."

OP is quite a common problem in the Aussie Rules, but Walsh maintains an admirably philosophical view on his time in the AFL. The Demons were good to him and put him through his final year of secondary school in Australia while they also helped finance a sports management degree. He was assigned an established club professional (Cameron Bruce), who was charged with helping Walsh develop as an AFL footballer.

"When I played with the school I was placed in and with Melbourne's feeder club, they used to make a video of all my matches," he revealed. "And then Cameron would sit down and go through them with me and point out different things, like what I had done well and where I should have made the run. Really they couldn't have done any more for me. And when my contract was up I suppose they had to make a business decision and I came back home."

And despite having come so close to a professional career, Walsh isn't one for regrets.

"I'm not one for looking back and saying, 'what if'. Of course, if I had to go over a year later my body would have been better able to cope with the demands. But then there is nothing to say that a contract would have been on the table then. And the club were very good to me, you couldn't fault them. At the end of the day, they are running a business."

In his own words, Walsh was "just getting by" financially in his first year, but by year two he was earning approximately AUS$30,000 (about €15,500). With accommodation paid for and transport supplied, it was more than enough for a comfortable existence.

Perhaps the disappointment of missing out on another contract with the Demons was tempered when he made his debut for the Cavan senior side shortly after returning home.

"I made my debut for Cavan playing alongside Larry Reilly against Donegal in 2004 and he was a legend in Cavan before I left and still is.

"But I found it hard to get back kicking the round ball. Some people would say my kicking was never great anyway, but I found it particularly hard to re-adjust."

Now he works full-time for the Cavan County Board as football development officer and has resumed activity with both club (Cavan Gaels) and county.

But during the summer the AFL was thrust back into his life dramatically. On the weekend the Feile was being held in Cavan, Australian scout Gerard Scholly let himself on to the back pitch at Breffni and conducted trials with AFL hopefuls. Walsh happened on the scene and told him in no uncertain terms where to go.

"It was a disgrace what went on there. He just turned up on the pitch and I actually couldn't believe what was going on. He said that he presumed it was a public park, but anyone who knows the back pitch knows that would be a very hard mistake to make. He even had the lads togging out in the cars because obviously the dressing-rooms wouldn't have been open.

"Obviously with my links to the AFL, some people might have assumed I had something to do with that, but that's just not true. It was a big day for Cavan and myself personally to be hosting the Feile and it was just a disgrace what went on there.

"I spoke to Nickey Brennan directly about it since then, and also to some of the parents who had turned up on the day, and they all presumed he had gotten permission to use the pitch. But that simply wasn't the case."

While the 'talent drain' is not as significant as stated by some commentators, young GAA players will continue to find the lure of a chance of life as a professional sportsman too great to turn down, as we have witnessed in recent weeks.

Traffic

It's not all one-way traffic, though. Cork's Michael Shields recently returned home after a spell with Carlton, while Aisake O hAilpin looks set to follow suit after being released by the same club. Laois duo Colm Begley and Brendan Quigley went out to the Brisbane Lions but Quigley didn't settle and returned home, while Begley has just been picked up by St Kilda. Previously, Bernie Collins (Cork) and Kevin Devine (Dublin) went out to Australia around the same time as Walsh but both returned home. It seems that more players will return to Gaelic football than carve out a career in the AFL but as long as there are success stories like Martin Clarke -- who has taken the game by storm -- Aussie clubs will continue to take the chance of unearthing a gem on these shores.

Kyle Coney is the most noted young player to take his chance. A star of the Tyrone All-Ireland minor-winning side, he recently confirmed his intention to join the Sydney Swans and more are sure to follow his lead after Ricky Nixon confirmed that he will run more camps similar to the one held in Breaffy, Co Mayo, earlier this year.

Although Walsh's time Down Under ended in disappointment, he believes it is worth the risk.

"There is no harm going over, but do your research," Walsh urged. "I spoke to Tadhg Kennelly before going over and he is always more than willing to help out and give you a pointer and I would speak to anyone who might be thinking of going over too. Some clubs are better prepared to cope with taking on an Irish lad than others and that has to be taken into account.

"Be sure of your terms too, I have heard stories of lads going over and not getting what they had been promised. But there are good stories too. I happened to be over there last year and I spoke to Martin Clarke and he is getting on very well. He has a separate coach for each skill set and is being very well looked after."

So is the same fate that befell Walsh likely to repeat itself with another Irish youngster?

"I don't think that is as likely to happen again. GAA players have really caught up in terms of weight programmes and most lads going over will have been introduced to physical conditioning at a young age, so they'll be better able to take it."

The U-17 tests that provided the platform for Walsh to shine are no longer part of the calendar but it seems likely that as long as the AFL continues to offer the only chance of life as a professional sportsman for the GAA player, some of the best talent in the country will be willing to take a chance
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on December 09, 2008, 10:47:48 AM
Quote from: boojangles on December 08, 2008, 05:49:11 PM
Final trial games were held over the last few weekends.The management outlined that they wanted to have a panel picked for the 1st week or so of December.Tommy Carr spoke a bit about what he was looking for, such as team work,communication,work rate etc.The trial I was at 2 weeks ago was very loose with a few suspects trying to do it all themselves.Fitness levels wouldnt have been the best with alot of us but I thought that David Givney from Mountnugent really impressed,Paddy Gumley also showed well.Lorcan Mulvey looked good on the ball as usual.Its hard to know if there will be that many new faces called in.Most of the lads at that trial would have been on the County panel at some stage over the last few years.

Cheers boojangles, it's always good to get the inside steer! I hope TC holds true to the bit above in bold, that's the basic building block he needs to put right at the corbnerstone of anything he hopes to achieve in Cavan, be it success in its own right or more realistically, the leaving behind of something solid to work with for the next man in charge. How did he strike you, how did he come across?

ac39, read that earlier yesterday alright, I remember being quite annoyed when we lost Walsh and maybe he owuld have become a great footballer had he stayed for those formative years. All in all, I think Australia ruined him...he no longer tries to catch a ball, is a poor kicker and seems overly interested in the niggle. That said, he'll still be an important player for Cavan as a spoiler/agitator when fit because we're very bare around midfield.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on December 09, 2008, 12:06:36 PM
I was at the final trial on Saturday in Killinkere.... 12 a side (although in fairness they had only planned to play 13 a side and two boys didn't make the game for whatever reason) with no sideline marked out on at least one side of the field, no subs and 25 mins a side... Anyway, have to say overall it was a good match, very even until one side lost one of their backs, they were calling him "Ted" and he looked to be wearing killygarry coloured shorts - don't know him, and there was no subs to bring on and then the other side pulled away.  Hard to judge players on a trial game in December, a lot were lacking that bit of sharpness from training away a couple of times a week apart from anyway of the ones in college.  John Tierney played a great game in the middle of the field alongside McCutcheon - the pair of them shaded it over Walshe and I think it was Fiachra Cork from Castlerahan.  Paddy Gumley from Redhills is a cert for the panel, kicked some outrageous scores  as did Ronan Reilly from Kildallon, big lump of a lad with great feet - anyone know what age he is???  Flanagan, Mackey and Cullivan were very good as well and Darren Smith from Lavey - given his performance against Dublin for the juniors as well -  should get a shot and make the panel.  Ciaran Shields played well but I haven't seen a lot of him - how did he do in the regional games, definitely looked up to the pace anyway.   A few others who will be on the Under 21 side would benefit from training with the seniors but maybe just aren't ready for the complete set up to the senior panel proper a la Ado Cole and Dane O'Dowd.  Interesting enough Jayo was there and played reasonably well, obviously still content to go through the trial process to make the panel again.... should make it also
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on December 09, 2008, 12:46:50 PM
Cheers Celt Man, us exiles appreciate the info. Such knowledge is important for pontificating in the pub you know. ;D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on December 09, 2008, 04:37:04 PM
Quote from: cavanmaniac on December 09, 2008, 10:47:48 AM
Quote from: boojangles on December 08, 2008, 05:49:11 PM
Final trial games were held over the last few weekends.The management outlined that they wanted to have a panel picked for the 1st week or so of December.Tommy Carr spoke a bit about what he was looking for, such as team work,communication,work rate etc.The trial I was at 2 weeks ago was very loose with a few suspects trying to do it all themselves.Fitness levels wouldnt have been the best with alot of us but I thought that David Givney from Mountnugent really impressed,Paddy Gumley also showed well.Lorcan Mulvey looked good on the ball as usual.Its hard to know if there will be that many new faces called in.Most of the lads at that trial would have been on the County panel at some stage over the last few years.

Cheers boojangles, it's always good to get the inside steer! I hope TC holds true to the bit above in bold, that's the basic building block he needs to put right at the corbnerstone of anything he hopes to achieve in Cavan, be it success in its own right or more realistically, the leaving behind of something solid to work with for the next man in charge. How did he strike you, how did he come across?

ac39, read that earlier yesterday alright, I remember being quite annoyed when we lost Walsh and maybe he owuld have become a great footballer had he stayed for those formative years. All in all, I think Australia ruined him...he no longer tries to catch a ball, is a poor kicker and seems overly interested in the niggle. That said, he'll still be an important player for Cavan as a spoiler/agitator when fit because we're very bare around midfield.
Tommy Carr only spoke for a bit,but I was impressed with what he said.Basically that he wasnt looking for individuals but rather lads who did the simple things well,supported team mates,worked hard and communicated well.After that it was mostly Peter Reilly and Niall Lynch who did the talking.
Would agree with Celt Man,I would be very suprised if Paddy Gumley doesnt make the panel.As for Ronan Reilly from Kildallon,I would have to disagree,didnt do alot in the trial I was at and is very lazy.Will kick points if he gets room.No harm to Killinkere but surely there is a better surface in the county to have a County Trial on,whats wrong with Kildallon or Templeport,Drumalee has staged a few trial and regional games in the last few weeks too.13 a side is a bit stupid too.I doubt it would have been that hard to get 4 more lads,but anyway.
The TED you refer to is Eoin Smith from Killygarry,a fine full-back who has been very unlucky with injuries.he would have won a Sigerson medal with Sligo IT a few years back.Would definitely be worth a shot on the panel.Great upper body strength.
Im sure they will have a panel in place in the next week as I think they should have got a look at most players by now.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on December 09, 2008, 04:50:27 PM
The trials may not be going 100% to plan and it remains to be seen if  they unearth players good enough to play at inter county level but I think the county board, Tommy Carr and his selectors should be commended for at least trying to do the right thing. Maybe next year they will be run a bit better and the players/clubs will show a bit more interest in them
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on December 09, 2008, 04:56:50 PM
When do we wake Cavanmaniac up?  2008 is nearly over and I'm sure he would like to rub the sleep from his eyes and be ready for the McKenna Cup.

WAKEY WAKEY CAVANMANIAC!!![/b]

;D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on December 09, 2008, 05:22:28 PM
Wouldn't know too much about Ronan Reilly at all, but I was impressed with the few scores he kicked on Saturday -  I wouldn't know from that one game I saw him in if he was good enough and I'm always wary about taking a young lad into the senior set up too soon... Another reason why the U-21s is so important, apart from the merits of winning anything at that level, it really should be a staging ground for younger players who are maybe just not quite ready for the senior set up.... Also the Junior team/Development squad should be used as a follow on for players who are in the same boat outside the U 21 grade to eventually feed into the senior set up.  It should be said that 3 of the better performers on Saturday - Tierney, Paddy Gumley and Darren Smith - played very well on the junior team in Dublin in June which was a wee bit unlucky to be beaten by Dublin who went to win the All-Ireland.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on December 09, 2008, 05:24:35 PM
Ha ha Denn Forever I've just copped that alright, hopefully I'll awake to find the new reality is a lot more pleasant than the nightmare. Ah feck it I can't wait for some sort of intercounty action to start up again!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4sam on December 10, 2008, 11:38:57 AM
I just stole this off the Ulster Club Championship thread.

Word is coming through that Cavan Gaels have launched an appeal into their game last weekend with Ballinderry - Cavan Gaels allege that Ballinderry played a lad who was under 14. 

Technically Cavan Gaels are right  - the lad Bell ( who is a monster for 14 ) is under 14 and under the new rules shouldn't be playing -


But surely Cavan Gaels should have taken their beating and forgot about a protest ?


It's not as if he was overage ?? He's an under 14 who happens to be a huge lad for his age.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: seamusthebard on December 10, 2008, 11:55:03 AM
Quote from: cavan4sam on December 10, 2008, 11:38:57 AM
I just stole this off the Ulster Club Championship thread.

Word is coming through that Cavan Gaels have launched an appeal into their game last weekend with Ballinderry - Cavan Gaels allege that Ballinderry played a lad who was under 14. 

Technically Cavan Gaels are right  - the lad Bell ( who is a monster for 14 ) is under 14 and under the new rules shouldn't be playing -


But surely Cavan Gaels should have taken their beating and forgot about a protest ?


It's not as if he was overage ?? He's an under 14 who happens to be a huge lad for his age.

What a crowd of sore losers.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on December 10, 2008, 12:04:06 PM
God if this is true I would have to agree with Seamus the Bard.We had the same problem this year for a Minor Championship game.We had a superb U-14 who was well fit to play Minor and we played him in the Championship Q-Final against Drumgoon.There was word that Drumgoon were gonna object but common sense prevailed and they let it pass and fair play to them.i know rules are rules but the Gaels will be doing themselves no favours if they object here.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on December 10, 2008, 12:50:37 PM
Quote from: seamusthebard on December 10, 2008, 11:55:03 AM
Quote from: cavan4sam on December 10, 2008, 11:38:57 AM
I just stole this off the Ulster Club Championship thread.

Word is coming through that Cavan Gaels have launched an appeal into their game last weekend with Ballinderry - Cavan Gaels allege that Ballinderry played a lad who was under 14. 

Technically Cavan Gaels are right  - the lad Bell ( who is a monster for 14 ) is under 14 and under the new rules shouldn't be playing -


But surely Cavan Gaels should have taken their beating and forgot about a protest ?


It's not as if he was overage ?? He's an under 14 who happens to be a huge lad for his age.

What a crowd of sore losers.

Rules are rules though. 

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: seamusthebard on December 10, 2008, 01:01:18 PM
Is it true that the referee dished out about five red cards to your players after the game for their misconduct and that they will not be available and that they will be severely punished for the remainder of the competition anyway if you were to win your protest.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on December 10, 2008, 01:14:01 PM
I think I'd be embarrassed with this appeal if I was involved with the Cavan Gaels... I know its illegal but jaysus he was U-14, you'd think they would be trying to keep that fact on the down low... Any reports on how the game actually went?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on December 10, 2008, 01:38:16 PM
Quote from: seamusthebard on December 10, 2008, 01:01:18 PM
Is it true that the referee dished out about five red cards to your players after the game for their misconduct and that they will not be available and that they will be severely punished for the remainder of the competition anyway if you were to win your protest.

There are no Gaels posters on here as far as i know. I did hear that there were red cards after the final whistle though.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on December 10, 2008, 02:29:14 PM
Sounds like there's alot of bitterness in the air after the game itself, was there a few rows? Do the Ballinderry team have anything to answer for in this regard or were the Gaels the aggressors, or was anyone to blame? I'd say if the Gaels are nursing a grievance over something else that happened elsewhere in the game then it might explain why they're appealing, if it's true.

Either way, if a game is won on the field it should stay that way, the only exception should be the in the case of a blatantly disallowed score or an extra man on the field or something that might have a direct bearing. Derry have experience of the latter after Cork's Kieron Murphy stayed on the field in the 2000 minor semi-final despite getting two yellows, and Derry lost by a point, don't think their appeal got anywhere.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on December 10, 2008, 02:41:22 PM
^^^ I agree.

Also from what I heard most of ructions occurred after the game. Hadn't heard there was five red cards though.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on December 10, 2008, 03:00:05 PM
You gotta laugh at those who have been caught cheating,
Calling Cavan Gaels sore losers.
They should throw Ballinderry Seniors and Minors out of the Ulster Club Competitions.
Thats a fair punishment.  :)  ;D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on December 10, 2008, 04:16:03 PM
16 team senior championship in 2009

anywhere from 2 up to 4 amalgamations.

No relegation from Intermediate Championship for 2 years to bring the number up to 16 teams.

Club Reserve teams can now enter the Junior Championship(entry process i dont know, Im guessing they would have to win the division 4 championship the year before,but i could be wrong)

Jaysus lads some fun with these amalgamations.
i would imagine there would be a West Cavan one.(Swad,Corlough,Shannon Gaels,Templeport etc)
East Cavan one(Baileborough,Shercock)
maybe St Joesphs(Killeshandra/Cornafean,but no offence Myles but i dont think they would be strong enough to compete in the senior)
anyone any other ideas lads?.
I give the county board awful stick on here like alot of others,But to be fair they are at least trying new ideas to improve the standards of cavan football.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on December 10, 2008, 04:33:04 PM
Jaysus lads some fun with these amalgamations.
i would imagine there would be a West Cavan one.(Swad,Corlough,Shannon Gaels,Templeport etc)
East Cavan one(Baileborough,Shercock)
maybe St Joesphs(Killeshandra/Cornafean,but no offence Myles but i dont think they would be strong enough to compete in the senior)

Any of them wouldn't win an intermediate between them.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on December 10, 2008, 05:59:08 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on December 10, 2008, 03:00:05 PM
You gotta laugh at those who have been caught cheating,
Calling Cavan Gaels sore losers.
They should throw Ballinderry Seniors and Minors out of the Ulster Club Competitions.
Thats a fair punishment.  :)  ;D

That'd be really taking things to the Max, BHman.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on December 10, 2008, 06:18:54 PM
Yes have to agree BHMan,I would also have been a critic of the County Board but I definitely think they are looking to improve things.The League format definitely needed changing,Im not sure if Semi-Finals will improve it too much but something had to b done.As Myles said also they have to be commended in the way they tried to get some new talent on to the scene for the Senior team.The Regional games can be improved on but anybody who showed up and impressed at least got a further trial.I would say that Tommy Carr would have seen at least 80 potential County footballers in the last month.Alot is up to the players after that.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on December 10, 2008, 06:29:20 PM
Quote from: cavanmaniac on December 10, 2008, 05:59:08 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on December 10, 2008, 03:00:05 PM
You gotta laugh at those who have been caught cheating,
Calling Cavan Gaels sore losers.
They should throw Ballinderry Seniors and Minors out of the Ulster Club Competitions.
Thats a fair punishment.  :)  ;D

That'd be really taking things to the Max, BHman.

i was having a laugh Maniac,
Ballinderry will probably get thrown out of the competition if the allegation prove correct.
dont think Gaels shouldnt be let back in though,
Ardboe should just get a bye to the Final.

C4ever
i was just throwing around some suggestions, you're correct though,none of those i mentioned would put up much of a challenge in Senior.
Any suggestions of amalgamations?? anyone???

Dont think semi finals in the league are the way to go as Boojangles said,
It should be like it is in Armagh, 1st Place =league championships 2nd+ promotion and leave it at that,They are Two unnecessary games taking place in the middle of November in my opinion.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on December 10, 2008, 06:41:19 PM
Note the capital 'M' on Max, BHMan. I expect he'll be in soon to speak with authority from the lectern on all things Cavan GAA. :D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on December 10, 2008, 06:57:12 PM
16 team senior

Cuchulainns
Cavan Gaels
Crosserlough
Lacken
Mullahoran
Redhills
Ballinagh
Castlerahan
Gowna
Denn
Belturbet
Killygarry
Ramor Utd
Kingscourt
(Amalgamation)
(Amalgamation)


14 team intermediate
Ballyhaise
Lavey
Drumalee
Killeshandra
Killinkere
Knockbride
Bailieborough
Cootehill
Ballymachugh
Drumgoon
Drung
Drumlane
Laragh Utd.
Kill



12/14 team junior
Shercock
Kildallan
Corlough
Muntirconnacht
Swanlinbar
Arva
Buttlersbridge
Mountnugent
Maghera
Templeport
Shannon Gaels
Cornafean
+
2 Reserve teams
Cavan Gaels II
CrosserloughII
Killygarry II            ??????

they are also bringing back the championship groups of 3/4 teams, so each team will have 2/3 games to qualify.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on December 10, 2008, 07:05:26 PM
Didn't know what you were on about for while there BHM  :)

From Hoganstand...

Championship returns to old format

Following last Monday night's meeting of the county committee it has been confirmed that next year's championship structure is to revert back round robin group system of old, after just two years of the qualifying system.

Suggestions from clubs over this year's league and championship formats had been taken into consideration by the committee and have seen a number of changes take place.

A maximum of two amalgamated team will enter the county's Senior Football Championship in order to make up a total of 16 teams, while a preliminary round play-off will act as provision if more than two amalgamations enter the competition.

The teams that finish in the top two position of each group will qualify for the quarter-finals, while the bottom pair will enter into a relegation play-off.

In order to maintain the numbers in SFC to 16, there will be no relegation from the Intermediate Football Championship for two seasons, while the senior and intermediate clubs will be allowed to enter their second teams into the Junior Football Championship.

In the six divisions of the All County Football League, semi-finals have been reintroduced for the top four of each section, while the top two in Divisions Two and Three after 13 games will be promoted up a rank. The top team from Divisions Four, Five and Six will also move up, and Division Six is now set to be the only section that will be played as a 13-a-side competition for the coming season.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on December 10, 2008, 07:19:15 PM
"while the senior and intermediate clubs will be allowed to enter their second teams into the Junior Football Championship"

That would be some laugh if about 20 of them decided to do so  :D  :D  :D  :D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on December 11, 2008, 08:21:01 AM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on December 10, 2008, 06:29:20 PM
Quote from: cavanmaniac on December 10, 2008, 05:59:08 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on December 10, 2008, 03:00:05 PM


C4ever
i was just throwing around some suggestions, you're correct though,none of those i mentioned would put up much of a challenge in Senior.
Any suggestions of amalgamations?? anyone???


I know i was just seen if i could get the rise out of someone. Drung and Kill used to join up and the last time they did had a very good team but it wouldn't be worth their while now.  It only causes problems in clubs in my opinion.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on December 11, 2008, 10:10:24 AM
From Hoganstand....

Rowley takes Lacken job

Declan Rowley as Leitrim manager
10 December 2008


Lacken Celtic have appointed former Leitrim boss Declan Rowley as the club's new senior football manager.

by Shane Corrigan

Rowley, who managed Leitrim's senior footballers for three years before stepping aside in 2004 for Dessie Dolan to take over, succeeds Joe O'Connor in the position after the former Cavan Gaels boss brought the club to its highest finish in Division One in his first year in charge.

O'Connor was recently appointed to Tommy Carr's backroom team in Cavan, while Rowley now comes in having worked under Luke Dempsey for the past four years in his native county of Longford.

In 2005, he coached St Mel's College to a Leinster Championship final where the Longford students were narrowly beaten by Knockbeg of Carlow.

Meanwhile, Killeshandra Leaguers GFC have confirmed that they will be unveiling their new senior management to the club's players this coming weekend, while also verifying that an approach towards former Cavan boss Donal Keogan was made over the manager's position, where the Denn clubman told the club that he has opted to take a year out from football management.



Good God. I can't believe they got rid of one clown to try and replace him with another one. If Keoghan was 1st choice I wonder who 2nd choice is! I dred to think.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on December 11, 2008, 10:32:29 AM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on December 11, 2008, 10:10:24 AM

Meanwhile, Killeshandra Leaguers GFC have confirmed that they will be unveiling their new senior management to the club's players this coming weekend, while also verifying that an approach towards former Cavan boss Donal Keogan was made over the manager's position, where the Denn clubman told the club that he has opted to take a year out from football management.

Good God. I can't believe they got rid of one clown to try and replace him with another one. If Keoghan was 1st choice I wonder who 2nd choice is! I dred to think.

That club has problems.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on December 11, 2008, 10:47:19 AM
Quote from: cavan4ever on December 11, 2008, 10:32:29 AM
That club has problems.

That club has dementia.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on December 11, 2008, 10:49:04 AM
Luckily Donal has decided to take a year out. Might I suggest he takes a century out or alternatively head into club management in Monaghan or Meath.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on December 11, 2008, 10:53:12 AM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on December 11, 2008, 10:49:04 AM
Luckily Donal has decided to take a year out. Might I suggest he takes a century out or alternatively head into club county management in Monaghan or Meath.

Fixed your post Myles
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on December 11, 2008, 02:42:58 PM
 :D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on December 11, 2008, 07:57:00 PM
Quote from: Homer on December 11, 2008, 10:53:12 AM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on December 11, 2008, 10:49:04 AM
Luckily Donal has decided to take a year out. Might I suggest he takes a century out or alternatively head into club county management in Monaghan or Meath.

Fixed your post Myles
Meath preferably. Thats twice I have heard that Joe O Connor is new selector with Tommy Carr.Can anybody confirm it? He wasnt at any of the Regional games I was at, nor the Trial. He would have a fair knowledge of the club scene I suppose but I would have preferrred to see somebody with a bit more tactical nous, if thats the word Im looking for? But Joe will give it his all and if anybody steps out of line,they will know about it with Joe Bonner, which could be a good thing with some of our boys.
Homer any sign of Ballinagh getting a new manager? Or are yas still reeling from Ballyhaise pipping yas to the Big S? I doubt yas should have much problem attracting a man with the right credentials.Or maybe yas have somebody within the club?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on December 11, 2008, 08:13:27 PM
No chance of Donal taking on an inter county post in Meath or Monaghan, too much to ask for altogether I suppose.

Congrats to our very own BHM who is the sole cavan representative on the GAA Board All stars match up on the Non-GAA discussion section. Selected midfield, described as a fitness fanatic and, as the smart arse selector posted, Cavan man, so keep him well away from the posts.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on December 11, 2008, 09:01:58 PM
Just to keep you up to date Myles, I'm hearing Ciaran Reilly from Mullahoran will be taking over the Leaguers' job for the coming year. It'll be interesting to see what he can do with what seems a very talented if temperamental panel.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on December 11, 2008, 10:00:46 PM
I'm sure the 'nagh could tempt Donal out of his self imposed exile.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on December 12, 2008, 03:30:58 AM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on December 11, 2008, 10:00:46 PM
I'm sure the 'nagh could tempt Donal out of his self imposed exile.

Jesus Christ Myles no! (or at least I hope so anyway)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on December 12, 2008, 03:33:55 AM
Quote from: boojangles on December 11, 2008, 07:57:00 PM
Quote from: Homer on December 11, 2008, 10:53:12 AM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on December 11, 2008, 10:49:04 AM
Luckily Donal has decided to take a year out. Might I suggest he takes a century out or alternatively head into club county management in Monaghan or Meath.

Fixed your post Myles
Thats twice I have heard that Joe O Connor is new selector with Tommy Carr.Can anybody confirm it?

There's no question about it as far as I know.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on December 12, 2008, 03:41:28 AM
Quote from: boojangles on December 11, 2008, 07:57:00 PM
Homer any sign of Ballinagh getting a new manager? Or are yas still reeling from Ballyhaise pipping yas to the Big S? I doubt yas should have much problem attracting a man with the right credentials.Or maybe yas have somebody within the club?

I'd say Big S (Micky Graham) was definitely the man they were looking for but BH have snatched him up now (a brilliant appointment for hm by the way) I'd imagine they will go for someone outside the county now but to be honest I'm only guessing. Don't think there's anyone up for it within the locality.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4sam on December 12, 2008, 10:13:31 AM
What clubs within the county are currently managerless? Our club (Castlerahan for those that dont know) are currently without a manager and in my opinion will find it very hard to get someone in, yes we have a half decent team but our committee are very tight with the cheque book. We have never had to pay anyone so you would think we would be in a position to offer someone a good package but I doubt we will.

Also what good managers are available, (nobody say Donal!!!)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on December 12, 2008, 11:39:59 AM
Quote from: cavan4sam on December 12, 2008, 10:13:31 AM
What clubs within the county are currently managerless? Our club (Castlerahan for those that dont know) are currently without a manager and in my opinion will find it very hard to get someone in, yes we have a half decent team but our committee are very tight with the cheque book. We have never had to pay anyone so you would think we would be in a position to offer someone a good package but I doubt we will.

Also what good managers are available, (nobody say Donal!!!)

Don :-X

King is available and I'm sure he is looking for a job that pays well.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4sam on December 12, 2008, 11:58:18 AM
To be honest I think they are looking at someone from outside the county but they will not come cheap!! I know I'm on the Cavan thread here but does anyone know any outside men that are available that might be good?

I wouldn't let Stephen King manage an U-14 team, was a great player, but from what I know of him as a manager he hasn't a clue!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on December 12, 2008, 05:12:23 PM
Quote from: cavan4sam on December 12, 2008, 11:58:18 AM
To be honest I think they are looking at someone from outside the county but they will not come cheap!! I know I'm on the Cavan thread here but does anyone know any outside men that are available that might be good?

I wouldn't let Stephen King manage an U-14 team, was a great player, but from what I know of him as a manager he hasn't a clue!
What sort of money would you be talking about C4Sam? I know we paid PJ Carroll 5 grand this year.We paid Big S and PaulMcCorry 7 grand between them the year we won Intermediate.Would Castlerahan pay that much?
There seems to be an awful merry-go round of managers in Cavan,some have won things but alot are just chancers who are around a long time but still havent won a thing.
Ciaran Reilly mite not be the worst man for Killeshandra.He was over Mullahoran when they won the Senior in 98.Didnt do much since but he would have some talent to work with.
Bar the Gaels and Mullahoran,I cant see any other club in Cavan attracting a big name from Ulster or anywhere else really.Paul Bealin was on huge money when he was with Mullahoran,no other club in Cavan would dream of paying what he got.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on December 14, 2008, 01:35:11 AM
Really to attract a "Big Name" from outside the county you have to be one of the top 2- 3 clubs

Gowna-Eamon Coleman,Mick McCormack
Gaels-Malachy O Rourke,Gerry McCarville
Mullahoran-Pascal Canavan,Paul Bealin,Justin McNulty,Tommy Dowd
Maybe Crosserlough if you would call Ollie Murphy a big name this year,
But not too many others have attracted a big name in recent times.

hearing speculation around the town that the Gaels are going to,or have approached Joe Kernan to take them over for a year,
No way hed take it though,(possible match with Cross and his sons in Ulster Club?? )

Man Ballinagh should go after is Ciaran Brady,Has the pedigree after winning the Longford Championship this year.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on December 15, 2008, 06:49:14 PM
BallyhaiseMan, any truth to the rumour floating around that Cullivan is leaving to play with Sylvesters in Dublin?  Heard it last week and I see someone else asking the same question on hoganstand???  It would be a serious loss to ya if true or is it one of these annual rumours which do the rounds at this time of the year??
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on December 15, 2008, 07:20:18 PM
Quote from: Celt_Man on December 15, 2008, 06:49:14 PM
BallyhaiseMan, any truth to the rumour floating around that Cullivan is leaving to play with Sylvesters in Dublin?  Heard it last week and I see someone else asking the same question on hoganstand???  It would be a serious loss to ya if true or is it one of these annual rumours which do the rounds at this time of the year??
Just heard that today myself,Couldnt believe it.I had heard a rumour about a Cavan player in DCU and presumed it was the stories about Jelly leaving the Gaels.I think its more or less a done deal.He has told a few people anyway I know.An awful loss for Ballyhaise,but Im sure they will recover.
The County panel was announced to the press today too. There are a few new names anyway.Gary Ferncombe and Enda McCormick from my own club.Most of the old names back in apart from Forde.No sign of Larry.John Tierney and Eamon Reilly (Chesty) are back in,So is Michael Brides.Ciaran Galligan,Anton Reilly,David Givney,Eugene Keating,Martin Reilly,Conor Smith a few of the younger lads in.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on December 15, 2008, 07:45:27 PM
Celt Man
i also heard the rumour today,Seemingly its true,
Its a desperate blow to any club to lose a player of Ray Cullivans calibre.hed have been the backbone of this team and i believe the county for the next 15 years,
But as Boojangles said life will go on,we have a few lads that were on the fringes,that many in the club believed should have been playing in the first place,They will get their chance now.Drumalee battled on with Mickey Brennan,Redhills have done the same without Michael Brides
Wish Ray the best of luck with St Sylvesters,Great lad who only deserves the best.
Boojangles, any chance of you naming as many of the panel as you know? would be much appreciated
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on December 15, 2008, 09:36:36 PM
This isn't the panel that was announced but maybe someone Boojangles or someone else in the know can tell me who I'm missing or who is on the list that shouldn't be

Sean Brady
Michael Brides
Martin Cahill
Ray Cullivan
Jonathon Crowe
Rory Dunne
Keith Fannin
Ronan Flanagan
Anthony Forde
Ciaran Galligan
Raymond Galligan
David Givney
Paddy Gumley
Michael Hannon
Sean Johnston
Eugene Keating
Michael Lyng
Cian Mackey
Dermot McCabe
John McCuthceon
Michael McDonald
Mark McKeever
Lorcan Mulvey
Padraic O'Reilly
Jason O'Reilly
Gerard Pierson
Darren Rabbitte
Anton Reilly
Eamon Reilly
James Reilly
Martin Reilly
Dermot Sheridan
Conor Smith
John Tierney
Nicholas Walsh
Barry Watters

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on December 16, 2008, 10:41:45 AM
Anyone see anything offical on the panel yet? 

Losing cullivan must be a major blow to you BHM. 
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on December 16, 2008, 10:47:21 AM
Quote from: Homer on December 15, 2008, 09:36:36 PM
This isn't the panel that was announced but maybe someone Boojangles or someone else in the know can tell me who I'm missing or who is on the list that shouldn't be

Sean Brady
Michael Brides
Martin Cahill
Ray Cullivan
Jonathon Crowe
Rory Dunne
Keith Fannin
Ronan Flanagan
Anthony Forde
Ciaran Galligan
Raymond Galligan
David Givney
Paddy Gumley
Michael Hannon
Sean Johnston
Eugene Keating
Michael Lyng
Cian Mackey
Dermot McCabe
John McCuthceon
Michael McDonald
Mark McKeever
Lorcan Mulvey
Padraic O'Reilly
Jason O'Reilly
Gerard Pierson
Darren Rabbitte
Anton Reilly
Eamon Reilly
James Reilly
Martin Reilly
Dermot Sheridan
Conor Smith
John Tierney
Nicholas Walsh
Barry Watters



Forde isn't on it according to reports
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on December 16, 2008, 12:02:18 PM
Cavan provisional squad 2009:

Goalkeepers: James Reilly (Drung), Eoghan Elliot (Cavan Gaels), Brian Coleman (Castlerahan)

Defenders: Michael Brides (Oliver Plunkett's), Johnny Crowe (Crosserlough), John McCutcheon (Cootehill), Keith Fannin, Michael Hannon (Drumgoon), Mark McKeever (Gowna), Padraig O'Reilly (Ballinagh), Barry Watters (Drung), Rory Dunne (Redhills), Eamonn Reilly (Cavan Gaels), Paul Brady, Dermot Sheridan (Mullahoran), Ronan Flanagan (Castlerahan), Martin Cahill (Denn), Dane O'Dowd (Drumlane), Enda McCormack, Gary Ferncombe (Drumalee)

Midifelders: Dermot McCabe (Gowna), Ciaran Galligan (Drung), Nicholas Walsh (Cavan Gaels), Lorcan Mulvey (Butlersbridge), John Cunningham (Swanlinbar)

Forwards: Raymond Galligan (Lacken), John Tierney (Knockbride), David Givney (Mountnugent), Micheál Lyng, Sean Johnston (Cavan Gaels), Gerard Pierson (Gowna), Anton O'Reilly (Ramor Utd), James Clarke (Kilinkere), Ronan O'Reilly (Kildallan), Martin Reilly (Killygarry), Paddy Gumley (Redhills), Jason O'Reilly (Belturbet), Sean Brady, Cian Mackey (Castlerahan), Conor Smith (Cuchullains), Eddie O'Reilly (Mullahoran), Ray Cullivan (Ballyhaise)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4sam on December 16, 2008, 12:16:00 PM
Thanks C4ever, where did you get this from?

I didn't know that Brian Coleman had been called in as a Goalkeeper, if only we could get him to play there for us. No major shocks.

I'm having trouble with my eyes today but I don't Eugene Keatings name there? I know he is on the panel.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on December 16, 2008, 12:21:23 PM
Quote from: cavan4sam on December 16, 2008, 12:16:00 PM
Thanks C4ever, where did you get this from?

I didn't know that Brian Coleman had been called in as a Goalkeeper, if only we could get him to play there for us. No major shocks.

I'm having trouble with my eyes today but I don't Eugene Keatings name there? I know he is on the panel.

Sorry hoganstand http://www.hoganstand.com/cavan/ArticleForm.aspx?ID=104862
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4sam on December 16, 2008, 12:24:55 PM
Ah right cheers, I don't see his name on that either, I know he was at the training on Saturday.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on December 16, 2008, 12:33:26 PM
Quote from: cavan4sam on December 16, 2008, 12:24:55 PM
Ah right cheers, I don't see his name on that either, I know he was at the training on Saturday.

Im not sure but i though i say his name in the Cavan Post.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on December 16, 2008, 01:41:03 PM
Midfielders look a bit thin on the ground there. Where is that McDonald lad from Drumgoon. He did ok as a late arrival in the summer (minus the months of county training). Would a run in the McKenna cup be good for him? Maybe he is not interested.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on December 16, 2008, 01:58:58 PM
I think McDonald suffers from the chronic problem of not being good enough... a decent club footballer but it's some step up to inter county level especially in mid field
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on December 16, 2008, 02:40:38 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher link=topic=53.msg437541#msg437541 date=122943486h3
Midfielders look a bit thin on the ground there. Where is that McDonald lad from Drumgoon. He did ok as a late arrival in the summer (minus the months of county training). Would a run in the McKenna cup be good for him? Maybe he is not interested.

If he is not interested he should not be there.  He walked out last year so i don't know if the commitment will be there, he has also started out a new business venture which may not help matters either.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on December 16, 2008, 02:49:16 PM
Looks like Darren Rabbitte is missing too

Anyone know if Forde or Rabbitte have opted-out through choice or injury?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on December 16, 2008, 05:31:12 PM
Quote from: Homer on December 16, 2008, 02:49:16 PM
Looks like Darren Rabbitte is missing too

Anyone know if Forde or Rabbitte have opted-out through choice or injury?
Im not sure what the story on Forde is, I heard after the Kildare defeat he said he was packing it in.He mite be just having a bit of a break,which he fully deserves and it may do him the world of good.Rabbitte may not have impressed.
I mightnt always be his number one fan but I feel Daragh Gaffney has been hard done by.For once his reputation may have been his downfall.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on December 16, 2008, 08:49:03 PM
Quote from: Celt_Man on December 16, 2008, 01:58:58 PM
I think McDonald suffers from the chronic problem of not being good enough... a decent club footballer but it's some step up to inter county level especially in mid field

I don't know the lads situation but in terms of being good enough, is he any worse than Cunningham or mulvey?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on December 16, 2008, 09:44:44 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on December 16, 2008, 08:49:03 PM
Quote from: Celt_Man on December 16, 2008, 01:58:58 PM
I think McDonald suffers from the chronic problem of not being good enough... a decent club footballer but it's some step up to inter county level especially in mid field

I don't know the lads situation but in terms of being good enough, is he any worse than Cunningham or mulvey?

No definitely not but that would lead a man to ask why are they there so?  But I suppose what else is there? Therein lies the problem...
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tierworker blue on December 16, 2008, 11:36:17 PM
Decent squad. Fingers crossed and all that. Here we go again folks...!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on December 17, 2008, 11:04:14 AM
Rabbitte is a big omission, I can only assume he didn't impress. I don't like the looks of us for full back or midfield, but sure that's the way it has been for years.

Forde, I would reckon, will come back into the panel after missing the early rounds of the league. He strikes me as the type to extract as much as he can from himself in his intercounty career. Just a guess.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on December 17, 2008, 12:12:02 PM
Quote from: cavanmaniac on December 17, 2008, 11:04:14 AM
Rabbitte is a big omission, I can only assume he didn't impress. I don't like the looks of us for full back or midfield, but sure that's the way it has been for years.

Forde, I would reckon, will come back into the panel after missing the early rounds of the league. He strikes me as the type to extract as much as he can from himself in his intercounty career. Just a guess.
Exactly my thinkings Maniac,I think maybe in the long run we mite be better trying Rory Dunne at midfield and hopefully he adapts.In the long run he is a better option than Cunningham(dont know how he even made the panel,he said he wasnt going in) or Mulvey.He is tall,can catch a ball,can defend and attack and most importantly he can pass a ball.He may not be ready yet but he has the potential.The other options have been tried countless times.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on December 17, 2008, 02:09:53 PM
I'm intrigued to see Tierney back though. Fingers crossed something doesn't snap on him again, he's a serious option if he can put any sort of a run of games together. We had him operating in the full-forward role under Coleman, mostly picking up chest-high ball in the channel through the number 6 and 3 positions, had a serious burst of pace out of the traps for such a hefty lad and was leaving a lot of leaner full-backs sitting. I presume that's where he'll get a run, in the 'Mad Eddie' role... ;), especially if McCabe is still being deployed about the middle. But make no mistake, a fit and functioning Tierney could transform our attack, gives us options high and low. Let's not put too many eggs in the Tierney basket yet though, eh?

Also intrigued to see Pierson return. Everything you hear suggests he's lazy and disinterested, yet he keeps coming back. It's odd. Hopefully, TC can get inside his head and coax some performances out of him to take the pressure of Johnston. (Who might be heading off again this summer, no objections from me because at least he's announcing it early and letting the team prepare in advance).

It's all starting again, just a few more weeks. These new yellow card rules will take a bit of getting used to. I just hope they stop persistent fouling like they're supposed to, and not just further erode the physicality of the game, Lord knows it's watered down enough with all the whistling as it is.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on December 17, 2008, 08:25:27 PM
Cavan provisional squad 2009:

Goalkeepers: James Reilly (Drung), Eoghan Elliot (Cavan Gaels), Brian Coleman (Castlerahan)

Defenders: Michael Brides (Oliver Plunkett's), Johnny Crowe (Crosserlough), John McCutcheon (Cootehill), Keith Fannin, Michael Hannon (Drumgoon), Mark McKeever (Gowna), Padraig O'Reilly (Ballinagh), Barry Watters (Drung), Rory Dunne (Redhills), Eamonn Reilly (Cavan Gaels), Paul Brady, Dermot Sheridan (Mullahoran), Ronan Flanagan (Castlerahan), Martin Cahill (Denn), Dane O'Dowd (Drumlane), Enda McCormack, Gary Ferncombe (Drumalee)

Midifelders: Dermot McCabe (Gowna), Ciaran Galligan (Drung), Nicholas Walsh (Cavan Gaels), Lorcan Mulvey (Butlersbridge), John Cunningham (Swanlinbar)

Forwards: Raymond Galligan (Lacken), John Tierney (Knockbride), David Givney (Mountnugent), Micheál Lyng, Sean Johnston (Cavan Gaels), Gerard Pierson (Gowna), Anton O'Reilly (Ramor Utd), James Clarke (Kilinkere), Ronan O'Reilly (Kildallan), Martin Reilly (Killygarry), Paddy Gumley (Redhills), Jason O'Reilly (Belturbet), Sean Brady, Cian Mackey (Castlerahan), Conor Smith (Cuchullains), Eddie O'Reilly (Mullahoran), Ray Cullivan (Ballyhaise)


Podge or Rory Dunne only real options at full back,

Midfielders, 2 from Ciaran Galligan/McCabe/Walsh/ and maybe Anton Reily.

Forwards,
more height and phyisque in there than past Cavan forward lines,
David Givney,Ronan Reily , John Tierney and Anton Reily are all Big Men.

Like the look of the panel. we will be missing 14 of those lads for the McKenna Cup due to colleges.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on December 17, 2008, 10:49:32 PM
Wheres Anthony Gaynor - did he not play in those regionals?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on December 17, 2008, 11:41:03 PM
Homer

did Gaynor play much football with B'nagh this year?

do much training etc??

i was thinkining maybe  lack of match practice and general fitness might be one of the reasons Carr overlooked him? or maybe Tommy has heard the stories and has decided not to risk it.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on December 18, 2008, 12:14:07 PM
2009 ACFL fixtures confirmed
17 December 2008

The fixtures for next year's All County Football Leagues have been confirmed, throwing up some interesting first round ties.

Divisions One through Three will kick-off on the weekend of February 28-March 1, and sees 21 games in all taking place across the county.

Arguably, the pick of the games comes in Division One, where former Ulster intermediate champions Ballinagh travel to Terry Coyle Park to take on the might of Cavan Gaels. Both sides have served up some cracking league encounters in the past, and the visitors will be keen to make a good start given that they must play all their games away from home this season as a result of the suspension handed down to them this past summer by the Cavan CCC.

In Division Two, the opening day sees the four sides relegated from the top tier over the past two season's face-off against one another. Kingscourt will host Drumalee and Mickey Graham's Ballyhaise travel to O'Connell Park looking for a good start against west Cavan side Drumlane.

Killygarry's second string begin their new life in the county's third section by welcoming Laragh United, who narrowly missed out on promotion back to Division Two this year, to Crubany, while another interesting clash is set to take place the same weekend between Butlersbridge and Ballymachugh at Emmet Park.

The first two rounds of Division One, Two and Three will hoped to be complete before Divisions Four through Six commence on March 15. Incidentally, '09 will see Division Six being played as a 13-a-side competition, as was revealed earlier in the month at a county committee meeting.

Meanwhile, it has been confirmed that next year's Hotel Kilmore Championships have been scheduled for a much earlier start of June 11, as opposed to this year when they threw-in on July 24. The draws for next year's three championships are expected to take place at next February's meeting of the County Board.

Round One of the ACFL Divisions One through Six are as follows:

Division One (February 28-March 1)

Cavan Gaels v Ballinagh
Cuchullains v Denn
Killygarry v Gowna
Crosserlough v Castlerahan
Mullahoran v Lavey
Redhills v Belturbet
Ramor v Lacken

Division Two (February 28-March 1)

Killeshandra v Crosserlough
Cavan Gaels v Cootehill
Kingscourt v Drumalee
Kilinkere v Drumgoon
Drumlane v Ballyhaise
Knockbride v Drung
Shercock v Kill

Division Three (February 28-March 1)

Butlersbridge v Ballymachugh
Shannon Gaels v Munterconnaught
Swanlinbar v Templeport
Kildallan v Corlough
Mountnugent v Cornafean
Killygarry v Laragh
Bailieborough v Arva

Division Four (March 15)

Drumlane v Ballinagh
Cuchullains v Denn
Maghera v Gowna
Mullahoran V Castlerahan
Kingscourt v Drumalee
Knockbride v Belturbet

Division Five (March 15)

Knockbride v Lacken
Kildallan v Templeport
Redhills v Ballyhaise
Kilinkere v Drumgoon
Lavey v Laragh
Shercock v Cootehill
Bailieborough bye

Division Six (March 15)

Butlersbridge v Ballymachugh
Shannon Gaels v Munterconnaught
Swanlinbar v Kill
Killeshandra v Drung
Mountnugent v Cornafean
Killygarry v Maghera
Kilinkere v Arva
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on December 18, 2008, 12:15:40 PM
Can people post what they reckon there club manger is getting paid in expenses. 
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on December 18, 2008, 12:16:41 PM
Quote from: cavan4ever on December 18, 2008, 12:15:40 PM
Can people post what they reckon there club manger is getting paid in expenses.  wages
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on December 18, 2008, 02:04:10 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on December 17, 2008, 11:41:03 PM
Homer

did Gaynor play much football with B'nagh this year?

do much training etc??

i was thinkining maybe  lack of match practice and general fitness might be one of the reasons Carr overlooked him? or maybe Tommy has heard the stories and has decided not to risk it.

Since February (the Fingal Ravens game) he has played a little under, an hour and a half of football.  :-\

He wasn't overlooked as such he's just taking a break and giving an injury that he has a bit of time. He didn't attend any of the trial games.

Would love to see it, but I wouldn't rate his chances of being back in the blue next year. I don't think he could play up front for the county and it's been a few years since he played in a defensive roll, it will take time for him to re-adapt.

Quote from: cavan4ever on December 18, 2008, 12:15:40 PM
Can people post what they reckon there club manger is getting paid in expenses. 

Sorry C4E, wouldn't have a clue what Ballinagh gave Morris nor what they would be offering now.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on December 18, 2008, 02:33:31 PM
Quote from: Homer on December 18, 2008, 02:04:10 PM

Quote from: cavan4ever on December 18, 2008, 12:15:40 PM
Can people post what they reckon there club manger is getting paid in expenses. 

Sorry C4E, wouldn't have a clue what Ballinagh gave Morris nor what they would be offering now.

Right, just that i heard out manger got 10k last year and wants more to come back this year.  Seem to be a bit much for a club of our size to be paying especially when we are trying to do up the grounds.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on December 19, 2008, 11:12:32 AM
Just heard that Ballinagh have appointed John Mulvaney as the new manager. Played county and had spells with Moynalty and Killenkere but wouldn't know a whole pile about him as a manager. Anybody here able to fill me in?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on December 19, 2008, 02:24:25 PM
Quote from: Homer on December 19, 2008, 11:12:32 AM
Just heard that Ballinagh have appointed John Mulvaney as the new manager. Played county and had spells with Moynalty and Killenkere but wouldn't know a whole pile about him as a manager. Anybody here able to fill me in?
Gaynor mite not play football for a few months yet.He had scans on his 2 ankles a while back and he has to get that sorted before he's back.
John Mulvanney,could be a good man,I hear he is very big on discipline.He did very well with Killinkere,brought them to a Championship Semi Final in 2005.
10 grand is a serious amount to be asking for.Most clubs Id imagine would be giving around 5k.
I heard that Keogan is the new manager with Denn,with Gary Farrelly staying on with him.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on December 19, 2008, 02:56:30 PM
Quote from: boojangles on December 19, 2008, 02:24:25 PM
Quote from: Homer on December 19, 2008, 11:12:32 AM
Just heard that Ballinagh have appointed John Mulvaney as the new manager. Played county and had spells with Moynalty and Killenkere but wouldn't know a whole pile about him as a manager. Anybody here able to fill me in?
Gaynor mite not play football for a few months yet.He had scans on his 2 ankles a while back and he has to get that sorted before he's back.
John Mulvanney,could be a good man,I hear he is very big on discipline.He did very well with Killinkere,brought them to a Championship Semi Final in 2005.
10 grand is a serious amount to be asking for.Most clubs Id imagine would be giving around 5k.
I heard that Keogan is the new manager with Denn,with Gary Farrelly staying on with him.

So much for taking the year out but I suppose he was never a great man for saying what he means.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on December 19, 2008, 03:27:25 PM
I heard that Keogan is the new manager with Denn,with Gary Farrelly staying on with him.

Is this the truth you speak?

Well it would be par for the course at Denn.  Get out of our way while we shoot ourself in the foot!  You'd only make a balls of it.

Getting rid of Kevin O'Donnell? 

Comfortable in Division 1 and Senior Championship Final.   Should have done better.

Well I suppose we know best.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on December 21, 2008, 06:11:15 PM
Quote from: Denn Forever on December 19, 2008, 03:27:25 PM
I heard that Keogan is the new manager with Denn,with Gary Farrelly staying on with him.

Is this the truth you speak?

Well it would be par for the course at Denn.  Get out of our way while we shoot ourself in the foot!  You'd only make a balls of it.

Getting rid of Kevin O'Donnell? 

Comfortable in Division 1 and Senior Championship Final.   Should have done better.

Well I suppose we know best.


Dont quote me on it,I actually thought you(Denn4ever) cud clarify it.When ya look at it,yas would be crazy to change your Management team.Was Gary Farrelly the manager or was it KevinMcDonnell?
Keogan would b better off managing your U-12s or something,let him learn the ropes!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on December 22, 2008, 02:20:06 PM
To be honest Bojangles, I've been afraid to ask in case it is true!

I don't have a problem with Donal but I don't know what we the club want?  Mid Table and Senior Championship final.  What more could you ask for?

Don't know where to start.........................
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on December 22, 2008, 02:30:03 PM
I see where your coming from Denn4ever,No disrespect to Denn or anything but last year would have to be seen as a very very good year.Like the year before yas beat us in a relegation play-off to stay in Senior.I doubt any of your supporters could have even dreamed of reaching a Championship final within a year of that.So what is the point of changing managers? I really dont see Denn taking on the Gaels, so last year should have been viewed as a bonus,not a failure.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: 118cmal on December 26, 2008, 12:42:08 AM
Well lads, can anyone answer me this, how has larry reilly never won an all star?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on December 27, 2008, 06:10:36 PM
Denn management team is Gary Farrelly, Pat Baker and Gerry Brady.  The only reason why Donal's name might have been linked is that Gary Farrelly is his brother in law.

The reason Larry Reilly never won an All Star is that he wasn't in that class.  If I want to go through a brick wall, I'll be behind Larry.  But I think I'd check if the door was opened first.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on December 31, 2008, 03:07:04 PM
Hope everyone of ye had a good christmas lads,A Few pounds of alcohol will have to be run off in the next few weeks,this end anyway.
First game this weekend against Queens.
I believe theres a challenge match against Meath tommorow(Probably for the players on the fringes)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on January 01, 2009, 08:14:09 PM
Don't think I'll be home for the queens game. Any report on how it goes would be apprecited. Happy new year to all of ye lads.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on January 02, 2009, 12:51:21 AM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on January 01, 2009, 08:14:09 PM
Don't think I'll be home for the queens game. Any report on how it goes would be apprecited. Happy new year to all of ye lads.

No bother Myles,will have one on the board Saturday Night.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on January 02, 2009, 10:39:06 AM
Someone on Hoganstand says that Cavan and Meath drew 2-12 each in Navan yesterday. Anyone know anything about who lined out for us?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on January 02, 2009, 04:42:57 PM
Heard Meath won by two... only remember a few positions... Fintan Reilly in goals, pauirc reilly full back... McCutcheon and McCormack were in the half back, Galligan and Muvley in the middle (that'll work alright!!)... Keating in the half forward line was injured early on, Tierney replaced him... Gibney apparently had a serious game at full forward and Paddy Gumley was in the corner, Jayo might have been in the other corner.... Heard Ward in the middle of the field had it his own way for most of the game for Meath
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on January 03, 2009, 01:55:00 AM
It's a pity we wont get to see givney in mckenna cup.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on January 03, 2009, 12:35:26 PM
Quote from: cavan4ever on January 03, 2009, 01:55:00 AM
It's a pity we wont get to see givney in mckenna cup.
Why?what college is he with? Hopefully he turns out to be the find of the season.
Happy and sucessful new year to all Cavan men.Lets hope for some progress this year and dare I say at least an Ulster Final appearance at Underage.Our Minors are on the handier side of the draw with Down the big worry
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on January 03, 2009, 01:42:48 PM
Happy new year lads and hope for some sort of improvement/success at any level in 09. Hear there is a chronic absence of goalkeeping talent at minor level this year which has some people close to the panel a bit worried.

Sorry to be a bore about this Givney lad but isn't he 19, playing junior football and didn't feature in any minor panels (not that the last part is any harm necessarily). If there's finally any sense he'll be given time if he's good enough.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on January 03, 2009, 02:31:30 PM
Quote from: anglocelt39 on January 03, 2009, 01:42:48 PM
Happy new year lads and hope for some sort of improvement/success at any level in 09. Hear there is a chronic absence of goalkeeping talent at minor level this year which has some people close to the panel a bit worried.

Sorry to be a bore about this Givney lad but isn't he 19, playing junior football and didn't feature in any minor panels (not that the last part is any harm necessarily). If there's finally any sense he'll be given time if he's good enough.

He was on minor panel but never played in championship.  I heard he was in athlone and then i heard he was in sligo so dunno what college he is in.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: CC1 on January 03, 2009, 03:11:23 PM
Quote from: anglocelt39 on January 03, 2009, 01:42:48 PM
Happy new year lads and hope for some sort of improvement/success at any level in 09. Hear there is a chronic absence of goalkeeping talent at minor level this year which has some people close to the panel a bit worried.

Sorry to be a bore about this Givney lad but isn't he 19, playing junior football and didn't feature in any minor panels (not that the last part is any harm necessarily). If there's finally any sense he'll be given time if he's good enough.
Happy new year to all!

Not so sure there is an absense of goalkeeping talent at minor level, I know two lads over this part of the country that could make it in goal for the minors easily even though they're only 17, Gilsenan from Bailieboro and Ward from Shercock. Two serious keepers, although I think the latter of the two doesn't seem to be all that interested. None the less, if the minors had either in goal, I wouldn't be all that worried.

Givney is definately good enough, he is one of the best players I've seen play against Shercock at club level for some time now. That is including a number of county players like Larry Reilly, Martin Reilly, Fannin, Hannon, McCutcheon etc. etc. I have no doubt that if he keeps the form he had in last years championship up, he will be a star for Cavan, never mind make the team or the squad. Hard to say if we should play him just yet, but he could easily play for Cavan this year without any problems.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on January 03, 2009, 08:58:27 PM
Happy new year to all. Was that Givney wearing 24 tonight? If it was I think he needs a bit more time although of course it was only his first start. Wasn't sure who the other corner back-guessing Enda McCormack? Boojangles, you might advise. Galligan surprised me with his workrate at midfield. Jason & Pearson looked fresh and up for it with the latter kicking one savage score in the second half. Still nobody to kick a placed ball and watching Pearson and McKeever trying is a little embaressing. But to keep the worst for last I thought Podge Reilly was terrible and to add that to his performaces last year I think he'll be lucky to make the panel never mind the team. His decision making was dreadful and he's often 10 metres off his man, who in this case was one of the best on show. We still need a full-back badly and whatever the story is with Rabbitte, I think he'll be back on the panel shortly.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on January 03, 2009, 10:04:41 PM
Absolutely dire performance tonight losing 3-13 to 0-12. Supposedly players were doing their own programmes for the last month,It didnt show as some of the players werent fit to walk.

1.Eoin Elliot,Kickouts were ok, was all over the place for the first goal,Not as good an option as Colm Anderson. 4

2.Michael Brides,didnt do much wrong,lacking in speed,but made some crucial blocks and interceptions. 6

3.Pauric Reily, Not his best day, Shaun Snowy O Neil scored 3 goals on him,Despite all his good qualities,Podge just doesnt have the speed off the mark to keep up with really quick forwards. 4

4.Enda McCormack,started off sluggishly,but came into the game after,done the simple things right,and was solid after. 6

5.John McCutcheon,went off with a blood injury??? missed a good part of the game and never really impacted the game when he returned,Decent. 6

6.Rory Dunne, wasnt within 10 yards of his man all night,i said if before i dont think he has the ability for IC level,Not terribely fast or strong and not a high fielding type.Just not up to it.  4

7.Mark McKeever, wasnt at the races,lucky not to have gotten a yellow in the first half for a deliberate trip. 4

8.Ciaran Galligan,One of the bright spots tonight,while his opposite number Charlie Vernon played alot of football,Galligan caught some great ball,won his own breaks and drove at the Queens defense.If he could play like this all year,It would be one half of our midfield problems solved. 7.5

9.Lorcan Mulvey,i thought he was yellow-carded,but apparently he was not,Replaced by Adrian Taite early in the first half,Might have been injured???.Didnt do much while he was on. 4

10.Eddie Reily,wasnt on long enough to have an opinion on him as he got yellow carded early.

11.Anton Reily,done ok,played his part in some of cavan best moves,definetely deserves another chance.Got yellow carded. 6

12.James Clarke,How this guy gets selected time and time again,i dont know,He offered nothing and touched the ball about 3 times the entire game and gave it away before being replaced by Declan McKiernan, 4

13.Gerard Pierson.Looked sharp,good from frees and kicked a lovely score near the end. 7

14.David Givney.He looked slow to be honest,was a decent targetman,but got disposesed and blocked down too easily,although he definetely deserves another chance. 5.5

15.Paddy Gumley,kicked one terrific score in the first half,but wasnt much of a factor throughout. 5

subs,
Paul Brady,Gunner was solid if not spectacular.
Dane O Dowd,Gave the ball away far too much when he was on,dont think he will cut it at this level,
Adrian Taite,Cuchullains player,wasnt much of a factor throughout,dont think he is up to it at this level, 5
Jason Reily,replaced Eddie, looked sharp when he came on kicking a few frees and a good score from play. 7
Declan McKiernan,the Killeshandra man,didnt get too long to impress.
Joshua Hayes,Cootehill defender only got on for the last few minutes.

Fitness levels were very low,Only about 3 or 4 good passages from play throughout the whole game.
Not too many of these players will figure come the national league.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on January 04, 2009, 12:39:44 PM
This competion is a waste of time.  If you cant pick near enough your best team what is the point of playing it.  1-3 new players would be enough to have in the team at any time.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Babe Ruth 47 on January 04, 2009, 02:36:07 PM
Was at the game last nite, albeit missing the first 15mins but agree with most of the comments from Ballyhaise Man. Very surprised by Galligan, was very solid. Delighted to see Pearson back, looking a bit like his old self. The full back position is a problem, which I would argue that it had an impact in Elliotts indecisiveness, although I do agree that Anderson is a better keeper.
With regard to the full back issue, it just goes to show what a farce the provincal club team thingy was. As far as I could see and hear, Eoin Smith was one of the most consistent performers. I seen him in Kingscourt roast Eugene Keating who was at FF. I heard from one of the other lads involved  in the panels that he was consistently good and he felt  Smith was guaranted a place on the panel. The fact that there is no natural full back on the panel makes the decision to leave him out all the more curious. Podge is a fine footballer but way to restricted at FB. Personally i think Rabbitte, while being good is way over rated. He showed against Ballinderry how slow he was of the mark, and had the turning circle of a bus.

On a different note, does the new yellow card system essentially mean you have up to 15 substitutes? That would fairly suit Tyrone, Kerry and the likes
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on January 04, 2009, 05:11:08 PM
Quote from: Babe Ruth 47 on January 04, 2009, 02:36:07 PM
Was at the game last nite, albeit missing the first 15mins but agree with most of the comments from Ballyhaise Man. Very surprised by Galligan, was very solid. Delighted to see Pearson back, looking a bit like his old self. The full back position is a problem, which I would argue that it had an impact in Elliotts indecisiveness, although I do agree that Anderson is a better keeper.
With regard to the full back issue, it just goes to show what a farce the provincal club team thingy was. As far as I could see and hear, Eoin Smith was one of the most consistent performers. I seen him in Kingscourt roast Eugene Keating who was at FF. I heard from one of the other lads involved  in the panels that he was consistently good and he felt  Smith was guaranted a place on the panel. The fact that there is no natural full back on the panel makes the decision to leave him out all the more curious. Podge is a fine footballer but way to restricted at FB. Personally i think Rabbitte, while being good is way over rated. He showed against Ballinderry how slow he was of the mark, and had the turning circle of a bus.

On a different note, does the new yellow card system essentially mean you have up to 15 substitutes? That would fairly suit Tyrone, Kerry and the likes

Not sure about that i though that 5 was the max and then you started to loose players.  It's a bit crazy it you can keep replacing players.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4sam on January 04, 2009, 06:57:16 PM
Quote from: cavan4ever on January 04, 2009, 05:11:08 PM
Quote from: Babe Ruth 47 on January 04, 2009, 02:36:07 PM
Was at the game last nite, albeit missing the first 15mins but agree with most of the comments from Ballyhaise Man. Very surprised by Galligan, was very solid. Delighted to see Pearson back, looking a bit like his old self. The full back position is a problem, which I would argue that it had an impact in Elliotts indecisiveness, although I do agree that Anderson is a better keeper.
With regard to the full back issue, it just goes to show what a farce the provincal club team thingy was. As far as I could see and hear, Eoin Smith was one of the most consistent performers. I seen him in Kingscourt roast Eugene Keating who was at FF. I heard from one of the other lads involved  in the panels that he was consistently good and he felt  Smith was guaranted a place on the panel. The fact that there is no natural full back on the panel makes the decision to leave him out all the more curious. Podge is a fine footballer but way to restricted at FB. Personally i think Rabbitte, while being good is way over rated. He showed against Ballinderry how slow he was of the mark, and had the turning circle of a bus.

On a different note, does the new yellow card system essentially mean you have up to 15 substitutes? That would fairly suit Tyrone, Kerry and the likes

Not sure about that i though that 5 was the max and then you started to loose players.  It's a bit crazy it you can keep replacing players.

As far as I'm aware you now have a maximum of 6 substitutes. That was all Cavan had a t their disposal last night anyway and used them all.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on January 04, 2009, 07:25:57 PM
Wasnt at the game last night Im dosed with a flu but heard the run-down.It doesnt surprise me to be honest.I really hate to be negative already in the year,but already Im hearing bad reports from the set-up.I know one man that has walked away from the panel already.
He said that on the first few nights training,the management showed up with a weights programme done out on sheets,there was only 15 of these sheets,when the lad I was speaking too asked about getting one of the programmes he was told he would be given one shortly.The same happened when the panel was given their Diet Plans.15 sheets were given out.This was for a panel of 34.
When enquiring again about the weights and diet sheets he was told basically that this wasnt a closed panel and that some lads may be brought back into the panel later on that havent been in so far.I dont think thats the type of talk that a lad who has committed to a Winter of hard training wants to hear.
I know of another well known player who hasnt played for Cavan in 2years, who has been told that he will be back in on the panel as soon as he sorts out his injury problems.This man has to have an operation and hasnt played proper football in over a year but has already been told he will be back on the panel.Somethings not right there.
I can understand that happening to the likes of Brian McGuigan or Colm Cooper or players who have done it all and won it all with their counties but for it to be happening in Cavan is plain crazy.
Babe Ruth made the point about Eoin Smith of Killygarry not making the panel and I totally agree with him.He is the closest thing to a Full-Back we have and surely he could be brought in and worked on.No offence to Padraig Reilly,he is a great footballer but he showed up to the trials not fit to walk yet still starts last night.Eoin Smith had the better of Eugene Keating at one of the regional games in Kingscourt and showed well after that so why not give him a try? We have tried every other option and they havent worked.
I could name 5 players who made the County Panel who were only picked for one reason and thats because of their reputation.Again as Babe Ruth says,it goes to show that the Regional games amounted to nothing because some lads were picked regardless how they played.
I hope it all works out and Im proved to be only nit-picking but that stuff wouldnt go on in Club football what I mentioned at the start of my post.
So much for starting off fresh.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on January 04, 2009, 08:18:04 PM
Boojangles, happy new year. No doubt there are a few lads out there disappointed after the regional games etc. etc. However surely the fact that the team that started last night against Queens contained 4 or 5 relatively new faces suggests that some heed was paid to the trial games. We all wanted a new manager and we've got one, with not too bad a record either. One of the downsides of change is that he will have to get to know players for himself, rather than on the basis of reputations, gossip etc. that will take time. So whether we like it or not we will have to allow him time and form our (preliminary) conclusions after a few league games, rather than on the basis of the McKenna cup which is now a glorified challenge set of games to allow colleges to warm up for the Sigerson, or so it seems to me.

You're teasing us all with this fella who hasn't played for Cavan for two years etc. So let me get the speculation going, from East Cavan rural club with a long history of injury problems, totally uneducated guess on my part but have to start somewhere? If it is the lad i'm thinking of, telling him he has his place on the panel once he gets his injuries sorted out is a VERY conditional sort of assurance.

Thanks as always to yourself, BHM etc. for keeping us up to date, hope ye are posting updates well into August this year.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on January 04, 2009, 10:05:51 PM
Dont get me wrong Im not naive enough to judge a man or a set-up on its 1st month but what Im saying is that some of the things Iv heard are not good,which definitely surprised me.That kind of detail in terms of weights or diets wouldnt go on in any top county,I can guarantee you it wouldnt even go on in Monaghan.
As regards the new lads that started last night I would say that only Enda McCormick made it on the back of the regional/trial games.
Gumley and Givney both had exceptional championships,Ciaran Galligan(who has been there before) to a lesser extent.
My main point about the regional games was that we had a man show very well at a very big problem area for us in the Regional/Trial games and he wasnt even brought in.Doesnt make any sense to me.
As regards the well known player.Its a man I would love to see back in a Cavan jersey but I really feel that he will need about 6 months to get himself right and alot of club games and even then I cant see him being right for Inter County.He has had alot of disciplinary problems in the past which is another thing to take into account unfortunately.I may as well spell it out at this stage.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on January 04, 2009, 10:28:58 PM
Quote from: boojangles on January 04, 2009, 10:05:51 PM
As regards the well known player.Its a man I would love to see back in a Cavan jersey but I really feel that he will need about 6 months to get himself right and alot of club games and even then I cant see him being right for Inter County.He has had alot of disciplinary problems in the past which is another thing to take into account unfortunately.I may as well spell it out at this stage.

Oh christ, here we go again.... Can you see him last more than 10 minutes so these new abortion of yellow card and you're off rules...
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on January 05, 2009, 09:01:27 AM
Can't see him being back on county or even playing must club football this year, but it is a kick in the teeth for the fringe players who are finding out they are just there to make up the numbers till the sigerson lads come back in and others return from injury.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on January 05, 2009, 10:27:31 AM
Have to say it is hard to know what is going on with the McKenna cup panel. I know Declan McKiernan wasn't named on the panel but out of nowhere comes on as a sub last day. Did they just draft a load of lads in cos they knew half the team would be sent off. The other joke of the thing is that no team training is supposed to be going on in Decemeber yet there is a competitive match on Jan 3rd. How is a team supposed to prepare. I think it will probably take a month or two for Carr to see what is going on. The McKenna cup will be a write of really and I wouldn't pay much heed to what happens in it.
I have no explanation why this lad from Killygarry didn't get a call up. Are ye sure that he hasn't refused to go in himself?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on January 05, 2009, 03:25:03 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on January 05, 2009, 10:27:31 AM
Have to say it is hard to know what is going on with the McKenna cup panel. I know Declan McKiernan wasn't named on the panel but out of nowhere comes on as a sub last day. Did they just draft a load of lads in cos they knew half the team would be sent off. The other joke of the thing is that no team training is supposed to be going on in Decemeber yet there is a competitive match on Jan 3rd. How is a team supposed to prepare. I think it will probably take a month or two for Carr to see what is going on. The McKenna cup will be a write of really and I wouldn't pay much heed to what happens in it.
I have no explanation why this lad from Killygarry didn't get a call up. Are ye sure that he hasn't refused to go in himself?
Well he played in 2 of the Regional games and the final trial,altho he did come off injured in that.He has had problems with injuries in the past but if he showed up for all them games Im sure he was keen.
As Cavan4Ever says,how are we ever gonna build up a panel and encourage young lads, if some lads are already being promised a place on the panel even if they havent put in the hard winters training.But dont be suprised if you see him back on the panel at some stage this year.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on January 05, 2009, 05:19:25 PM
I'm surprised and disappointed to hear that the running of things might not be shipshape and streamlined behind the scenes. You'd be taking that as a given with Tommy Carr's reputation for structure and discipline etc.

Still, early days, let's see how it goes.

Happy New Year to all. Time to change the signature I think.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Mr. Pain on January 05, 2009, 05:39:01 PM
Time to stop whining. Mr. Pain reckons that the last day was like a first gathering training session for the team. A few new faces who have to gel in well with the other lads. No Dermot McCabe either. Mr. Pain was surprised that Carr didn't move someone else onto that Shawn O Neill lad. Poor Podge was getting a roasting and had an embarrasing evening which could have been lessened if another man shared some of his torture. The thought in the Pain camp was that Eoin Smith received an injury during the trial games and will probably feature in the near future. Ciaran Galligan will run all day but that is as good a performance as you may see from him this year as he is so much fitter than everyone else. Needs to track back. Mulvey needs training. Givney needs more games as does Gumley and McCormack. These three guys could turn out to be a great new addition if given the chance. Anton Reilly could be a star if trained right. It is early days and the students had a lot of training done which was to their advantage against a depleted Cavan side. Rant over!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on January 05, 2009, 09:25:48 PM
Between the ban on collective training and the colleges inclusion it's hard to look at the McKenna cup as anything more than a sort of final regional trial, there won't be much time to decide on a settled team come first round of the league when it really matters. Carr was in Portarlington yesterday-Flanagan, Cullivan (midfield.......), Lyng and Watters lined out, Johnston was out injured. Would say he learned as much from that fixture as Saturday nights. Flanagan was top class according to reports. Martin Reilly and Enda Gaffney lined out for DIT, Gaffney kicked a few points (against Kilkenny mind........),

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on January 05, 2009, 11:17:34 PM
Quote from: Mr. Pain on January 05, 2009, 05:39:01 PM
Time to stop whining. Mr. Pain reckons that the last day was like a first gathering training session for the team. A few new faces who have to gel in well with the other lads. No Dermot McCabe either. Mr. Pain was surprised that Carr didn't move someone else onto that Shawn O Neill lad. Poor Podge was getting a roasting and had an embarrasing evening which could have been lessened if another man shared some of his torture. The thought in the Pain camp was that Eoin Smith received an injury during the trial games and will probably feature in the near future. Ciaran Galligan will run all day but that is as good a performance as you may see from him this year as he is so much fitter than everyone else. Needs to track back. Mulvey needs training. Givney needs more games as does Gumley and McCormack. These three guys could turn out to be a great new addition if given the chance. Anton Reilly could be a star if trained right. It is early days and the students had a lot of training done which was to their advantage against a depleted Cavan side. Rant over!
Nobody is whining,just stating a few facts.I wish Tommy Carr and all the best of luck and obviously realise it will get better,but I just dont like the sounds of some of the things Im hearing.I fill people in on what I hear round the county,its not always going to be positive but people have a right to hear whats going on.If people wanna read only positive stuff then read The Post and the Celt.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on January 05, 2009, 11:39:50 PM
Just to take it away from the County for a minute here.Mickey Lee has just been appointed our(Drumalees) manager for the year.Was just wondering of any other appointments lads mite know off?

Drumalee-Mickey Lee
Ballyhaise-Mickey Graham
Lacken-Declan Rowley
Butlersbridge-Phelim Plunkett
Ballinagh-John Mulvanney
Gowna-Bernard Morris
Cornafean-Gerry Cadden

I hear the Gaels are looking for Mick Dowd to stay another year.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: bart_simpson on January 05, 2009, 11:54:10 PM
david givney did play county minor championship in 07 came on for martin dunne against down in the first round and was on the county u-21's in 08 just another note seen as im a mountnugent clubman sean fitzpatrick form castlerahan manger has taken over mountnugent!!!!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on January 06, 2009, 12:25:49 AM
God we'll have Marge and Maggie next on the Cavan thread.
Welcome Bart.Its good to have another club represented on the Board.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on January 06, 2009, 12:40:05 AM
no Joe Kiernan for the Gaels then  ;D
welcome to the board Bart.

Unusually decent post from Mr Pain there  :P,

David Givney
Paddy Gumley
Enda McCormack
Anton Reily are definetely worth staying with, All Very good footballers
Would disagree with you on Ciaran Galligan though Mr Pain on him being fitter than the rest of the team
Hes a terrific athlete,But he wasnt getting much height at all on his jumps(having played against him countless times,id know),and he ran out of steam after a few blazing runs,
He can improve alot on Saturday.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on January 06, 2009, 01:01:27 AM
Good appointment for your lads Boojangles,Mickey lee knows his stuff.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on January 06, 2009, 08:41:04 AM
Did I not hear that Mickey Graham is no longer taking up the role with Ballyhaise due to the County Minors job? The way I heard it was that the County Board wouldn't allow it. Although it was a Redhills man that told me.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on January 06, 2009, 09:04:18 AM
I know that Tony Brady wasn't allowed manage Drung last year because he was County Development Officer or some similar role. That worked out well for us in the end anyway.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4sam on January 06, 2009, 09:11:21 AM
Quote from: cavan4ever on January 06, 2009, 09:04:18 AM
I know that Tony Brady wasn't allowed manage Drung last year because he was County Development Officer or some similar role. That worked out well for us in the end anyway.

Thats not true cavan4ever, Tony had taken the job but was unable to give the commitment to Drung. I think its fairly safe to say that if Tony had been over Drung they would have still won the Junior Championship and in my opinion would have got on better than they did in the League.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on January 06, 2009, 09:15:17 AM
Quote from: cavan4sam on January 06, 2009, 09:11:21 AM
Quote from: cavan4ever on January 06, 2009, 09:04:18 AM
I know that Tony Brady wasn't allowed manage Drung last year because he was County Development Officer or some similar role. That worked out well for us in the end anyway.

Thats not true cavan4ever, Tony had taken the job but was unable to give the commitment to Drung. I think its fairly safe to say that if Tony had been over Drung they would have still won the Junior Championship and in my opinion would have got on better than they did in the League.
Fair enough.  All they aimed for in the league was to stay up though.  Not a good thing for managemnt to be saying to players at the start of the year but it worked out for them in the end.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4sam on January 06, 2009, 09:45:48 AM
Quote from: cavan4ever on January 06, 2009, 09:15:17 AM
Quote from: cavan4sam on January 06, 2009, 09:11:21 AM
Quote from: cavan4ever on January 06, 2009, 09:04:18 AM
I know that Tony Brady wasn't allowed manage Drung last year because he was County Development Officer or some similar role. That worked out well for us in the end anyway.

Thats not true cavan4ever, Tony had taken the job but was unable to give the commitment to Drung. I think its fairly safe to say that if Tony had been over Drung they would have still won the Junior Championship and in my opinion would have got on better than they did in the League.
Fair enough.  All they aimed for in the league was to stay up though.  Not a good thing for managemnt to be saying to players at the start of the year but it worked out for them in the end.

Drung will find it tough going in the League this year if the 3 lads remain on the County, which they probably will. Its a disaster, We have 4 now with Flanagan, Mackey, Sean Brady and now Brian Coleman. We are a bad Division 2 team without them lads. For those of you that don't know too much about Brian Coleman as a goalkeeper, in my opinion he is the next best to James Reilly in the county, great kickout, very accurate and good distance, very good shot stopper and excellent under a high ball. With a bit of luck he will play there for us this year.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4sam on January 06, 2009, 09:49:38 AM
Just a paragraph taken from the report in the Indo on the DCU match:

'Laois followers breathed a sigh of relief on learning that Cavan star Seanie Johnson would not line out because of injury and while his county manager Tommy Carr -- who was watching from the stand -- may have been disappointed initially he was surely suitably comforted by the performance of another Cavan man, the outstanding Ronan Flanagan.'
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on January 06, 2009, 10:01:43 AM
Quote from: cavan4sam on January 06, 2009, 09:45:48 AM
Quote from: cavan4ever on January 06, 2009, 09:15:17 AM
Quote from: cavan4sam on January 06, 2009, 09:11:21 AM
Quote from: cavan4ever on January 06, 2009, 09:04:18 AM
I know that Tony Brady wasn't allowed manage Drung last year because he was County Development Officer or some similar role. That worked out well for us in the end anyway.

Thats not true cavan4ever, Tony had taken the job but was unable to give the commitment to Drung. I think its fairly safe to say that if Tony had been over Drung they would have still won the Junior Championship and in my opinion would have got on better than they did in the League.
Fair enough.  All they aimed for in the league was to stay up though.  Not a good thing for managemnt to be saying to players at the start of the year but it worked out for them in the end.

Drung will find it tough going in the League this year if the 3 lads remain on the County, which they probably will. Its a disaster, We have 4 now with Flanagan, Mackey, Sean Brady and now Brian Coleman. We are a bad Division 2 team without them lads. For those of you that don't know too much about Brian Coleman as a goalkeeper, in my opinion he is the next best to James Reilly in the county, great kickout, very accurate and good distance, very good shot stopper and excellent under a high ball. With a bit of luck he will play there for us this year.

Hopefully they won't miss to many games.  Galligan reckons that they will only miss two games but it will be more than that and Miller will surely be injured for a few aswell.  Was Coleman not available the other night?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4sam on January 06, 2009, 10:05:40 AM
No Coleman is not allowed to play McKenna Cup because of his involvement with DCU.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: KingOfSeptember on January 06, 2009, 10:05:59 AM
From anglocelt.ie
Article published just before Christmas I think.

THE GAA close season has seen plenty of action behind the scenes as clubs look to secure managers for the 2009 season.
The cult of the "have whistle, will travel" outside manager continues to grow in popularity, with the majority of the 40 clubs in the county opting for managers from outside their own members and, in many cases, from outside the county.
Most Cavan clubs will have new men at the helm in 2009, while a number, including county champions Cavan Gaels, have yet to confirm a manager.
Beaten Intermediate finalists Ballyhaise landed a coup by securing the services of the highly-rated Mickey Graham, the county minor coach, while Lacken Celtic will be managed by former Leitrim manager Declan Rowley.
Their neighbours Ballinagh, who have enjoyed considerable success in recent years under Bernard Morris, will be managed by the experienced John Mulvaney of Ramor, while Morris himself returns to home club Gowna, where he will take on a selector's role.
Junior and Intermediate champions Drung and Redhills are holding on to their managers (Joe Fitzpatrick and Mickey Cadden respectively) for the new season.
Kingscourt also retain their outgoing manager, Meath native Dudley Farrell.

Movers and Shakers

Arva
2008: Sean Pierson 2009: Lacken clubman Gabriel Keogan takes the reins.
Bailieborough
2008: Vincent Kelly 2009: Francis Clarke, who was selector last year under Kelly, will take over as manager.
Ballinagh
2008: Bernard Morris 2009: Former Ramor United manager and Cavan defender John Mulvaney.
Ballyhaise
2008: Gerry O'Rourke 2009: Mickey Graham will be combining the Ballyhaise role with his duties as county minor manager
Ballymachugh
2008: Malachy Flanagan 2009: Flanagan has gone back to play with his club Killoe in Longford so the club are in the process of selecting a new manager.
Belturbet
2008: Mark Lawlor 2009: The club are in the process of looking for a new manager and should have someone in place by the time of the AGM on January 7.
Butlersbridge
2008: Brendan Nelligan 2009: Former Cavan senior selector and Drumlane and Ballyhaise manager Phelim Plunkett returns to the club.
Castlerahan
2008: Sean Fitzpatrick 2009: No manager has been appointed yet, although it has been rumoured that this ambitious club approached no less a figure than Crossmaglen manager Donal Murtagh.
Cavan Gaels
2008: Mick O'Dowd 2009: No change at the moment following another successful year. The club will examine it over the close season.
Cootehill Celtic
2008: Kevin Caraher 2009: Reports suggest that Monaghan native Caraher is staying on, although this has not been confirmed. Caraher met the players before the AGM recently.
Corlough
2008: Cathal Murphy 2009: Kinawley native Murphy is staying on.
Cornafean
2008: Ciaran Creegan 2009: Former Gowna official Gerry Cadden takes over from Leitrim native Creegan, who was in the job for three years.
Crosserlough
2008: Ollie Murphy (took over from Colm McEvoy during the season) 2009: Murphy will be manager again.
Cuchullains
2008: Fintan Cahill 2009: Cahill retains the job
Denn
2008: Kevin Mulvaney 2009: Despite rumours that Donal Keogan is to return to his home club as manager, it looks likely that, with Kevin Mulvaney having stepped aside, 2008: team trainer Gary Farrelly will take on the role of bainisteoir.
Drumalee
2008: PJ Carroll 2009: Undecided. The club elected a new chairman and vice-chairman at their recent AGM and they are in the process of looking for a new team manager.
Drumgoon
2008: Ray McCarron 2009: The club are looking for someone at present.
Drumlane
2008: Noel Marron 2009: Former Monaghan defender Marron will be staying on as manager.
Drung
2008: Joe Fitzpatrick 2009: Although it has yet to be confirmed, all of the indications are that Fitzpatrick will be staying on following a successful 2008:.
Gowna
2008: Mick McCormack 2009: Mick McCormack will continue in the manager's bib. Former Cavan player and Ballinagh manager Bernard Morris will be a selector.
Kildallan
2008: Emmet Curry 2009: The club are currently looking for a new manager after Curry opted not to stay on.
Kill
2008: Barry Crudden 2009: Having delivered the Division Three league title in 2008:, Crudden, a garda, will stay on as team manager
Killeshandra
2008: Stephen King, Tom Downes and Junior McKiernan 2009: Ciaran O'Reilly, who guided Mullahoran to the 1998 county title, has been appointed.
Kilinkere
2008: John Mulvaney 2009: Sean Finnegan takes over as manager.
Killygarry
2008: Declan Sheridan 2009: Unclear as of yet, although trainer James Lovett will not be staying on. The AGM is on January 10.
Kingscourt Stars
2008: Dudley Farrell took over from Paddy Bates midway through 2009: Farrell, a Meath selector under Colm Coyle in recent years, will remain as manager.
Knockbride
2008: Brian Comesky 2009: Comeskey is not running again and the club have yet to appoint a manager.
Lacken
2008: Joe O'Connor 2009: Former Leitrim senior manager Declan Rowley, who has enjoyed success with St Mel's College in Longford, is the new manager.
Laragh United
2008: George Crowe 2009: Crowe is seeking a second term but nothing will be ratified until the AGM on January 3.
Lavey
2008:; Terry Hyland 2009:.
The experienced Hyland will remain as Lavey manager.
Maghera
2008: Paul O'Dowd 2009: A final decision on the new manager will be taken after a meeting of the players.
Mountnugent
2008: John Lynch, Martin O'Reilly 2009: Sean Fitzpatrick of Castlerahan takes over as manager.
Mullahoran
2008: Pascal Canavan 2009: Tyrone legend Canavan was re-appointed at the AGM last month.
Munterconnaught
2008: Jim Gilsenan 2009: Gerry Hanly, a Galway man who managed the club to the junior final a number of years ago, returns.
Ramor United
2008: PJ Buckley 2009: The same management team has been ratified by the club executive.
Redhills
2008: Mickey Cadden 2009: Donagh, Co Fermanagh native Cadden will stay at the helm as the club enter senior ranks.
Shannon Gaels
2008: Tom Reilly 2009: The club's minor manager Eugene Walsh has stepped up to take over the senior team. Reilly will continue as club chairman.
Shercock
2008: Raymond Reilly, Liam Duffy, John Coyle 2009: The club AGM was postponed due to a death recently and nothing will be decided until after Christmas. Last year's management team are  in the running for the role again, along with a couple of others.
Swanlinbar
2008: Aodhan Murphy 2009: Murphy is staying on as manager.
Templeport
2008: Tommy Mimna 2009: Mimna, who is a Templeport clubman, is staying on as manager with Tyrone man Hugh Donnelly acting as team trainer.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4sam on January 06, 2009, 10:16:30 AM
I don't know where the rumour about Castlerahan approaching Donal Murtagh started but the only places ive heard it mentioned are in the local papers. Why would a man whose team are in the All-Ireland Semi Final want to leave to manage Castlerahan, its ridiculous!  ???
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on January 06, 2009, 10:25:22 AM
Happy new year one and all.

It appears as if we are resorting to our old whinging mentality.

Point to remember.

It was Cavan's first game and if we have adhered to the rules, there was no training on a pitch together.  Queens have been training together since at least October and so would be a tighter team.

Didn't make the game but there were some good points?  Can we highlight these and move on.



Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on January 06, 2009, 10:54:18 AM
Quote from: Denn Forever on January 06, 2009, 10:25:22 AM
Happy new year one and all.

It appears as if we are resorting to our old whinging mentality.

Point to remember.

It was Cavan's first game and if we have adhered to the rules, there was no training on a pitch together.  Queens have been training together since at least October and so would be a tighter team.

Didn't make the game but there were some good points?  Can we highlight these and move on.


Read the thread and you will see the good and the bad points.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on January 06, 2009, 01:40:18 PM
Agreed with previous comments Podge looked very slugish, although it was obvious from last year that he struggles against the pacier customers ( a la Donnacha O'Callaghan in the Cork league game last year .) Carr or one of his selectors should have swapped him with Rory Dunne early on, their failure to do so throughout the entirety of the game does not bode well but I suppose is forgivable for their first night on the job.

Really surprised at Boojangles comments Re: a certain player. Hopefully if true Carr & Co. intended it as more of an incentive to get back fit and disciplined  :-\

Just to continue with the good news the u21s had a challenge match against Roscommon on Saturday morning. Didn't make it too the game but I heard it was a close tie up until the break but after the restart the gates opened and Ros won by 15 points or so. Having said that I think Cavan had a few injuries at half time and you should also take into account that this would be the All Ireland winning Ros minor team of 2006.

Lastly welcome to the board Bart and a happy new year to all.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on January 06, 2009, 01:49:03 PM
Quote from: Homer on January 06, 2009, 01:40:18 PM
Agreed with previous comments Podge looked very slugish, although it was obvious from last year that he struggles against the pacier customers ( a la Donnacha O'Callaghan in the Cork league game last year .) Carr or one of his selectors should have swapped him with Rory Dunne early on, their failure to do so throughout the entirety of the game does not bode well but I suppose is forgivable for their first night on the job.

Really surprised at Boojangles comments Re: a certain player. Hopefully if true Carr & Co. intended it as more of an incentive to get back fit and disciplined  :-\
Just to continue with the good news the u21s had a challenge match against Roscommon on Saturday morning. Didn't make it too the game but I heard it was a close tie up until the break but after the restart the gates opened and Ros won by 15 points or so. Having said that I think Cavan had a few injuries at half time and you should also take into account that this would be the All Ireland winning Ros minor team of 2006.

Lastly welcome to the board Bart and a happy new year to all.
Thats exactly what I would hope it would achieve.He may also need a kick up the arse to go with that.Maybe someone out your way will give him that.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4sam on January 06, 2009, 05:50:55 PM
The U-21 match against Roscommon was in the Hastings Cup and the final score was 3-21 to 0-7, so i heard on newstalk on my way to the match against Queens on Saturday night.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on January 06, 2009, 08:38:41 PM
anyone any ideas to what the under 21 panel is?

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on January 06, 2009, 09:49:38 PM
Quote from: cavan4sam on January 06, 2009, 05:50:55 PM
The U-21 match against Roscommon was in the Hastings Cup and the final score was 3-21 to 0-7, so i heard on newstalk on my way to the match against Queens on Saturday night.

Jaysus thats an awful hammering. Hard to see how anyone showed well in that game to be selected for the McKenna cup game. Is the Antrim game on tomorrow - anyone heading?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Babe Ruth 47 on January 07, 2009, 02:19:11 AM
Was hoping to go alright, what time is throw in?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on January 07, 2009, 02:57:38 AM
Its on Sunday at 2pm lads??? or so i believe.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Babe Ruth 47 on January 07, 2009, 04:18:11 PM
Was looking at the fixtures that are on the Gaelic Life Website, It says it is on Wed the 9th of Jan at 8pm. By my reconing wednesday does not fall on the 9th till 2013. Thats gonna make some balls of the fixtures shedule. They are going to have to hold up the All Ireland for some McKenna cup game thats not on for 4 years :)
Seriously though, any one confirm when it is on? Have to head up that end of the country tomorrow any way but was planning to hit the road soon and watch the match?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Babe Ruth 47 on January 07, 2009, 04:23:52 PM
Found a correct version:


2009 Dr McKenna Cup

All Sunday games at 2pm: All midweek and Saturday games at 7.30pm

(Extra time must be played in Semi finals & Final)

Saturday January 3

Cavan v Queens at Cavan

Sunday January 4

Roinn 1

Section A

Fermanagh v Derry at Enniskillen

UUJ v Donegal at Ballybofey

Section B

Tyrone v Monaghan at Omagh (Date TBC)

St Mary's v Down at Newry

Section C

Armagh v Antrim at Armagh

Sunday January 11

Round 2

Section A

Derry v UUJ at Ballinascreen

Donegal v Fermanagh at Ballyshannon

Section B

Monaghan v St Mary's at Emyvale

Down v Tyrone at Newry

Section C

Antrim v Cavan at Casement Park

Queens v Armagh at Armagh

Wednesday January 14

Round 3

Section A

Fermanagh v UUJ at Enniskillen

Derry v Donegal at (TBC)

Section B

Tyrone v St Mary's at Omagh

Monaghan v Down at Inniskeen

Section C

Armagh v Cavan at Cavan

Antrim v Queen's at Casement Park

Wednesday January 21

Semi Finals:

(1) C v B

(2) A v 4th Placed Team

Sunday January 24

Final

1 v 2
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on January 07, 2009, 04:28:15 PM
From The Hoganstand...

Under 21s crash to defeat against Rossies
07 January 2009

Cavan 0-7
Roscommon 3-13

Cavan's Under 21's suffered a heavy defeat in the preparations for their new season last Saturday as they fell victim to Roscommon by a massive 15 points at St Aidan's, Templeport in the Hastings Cup.

In fairness to the hosts, they were came up against a Roscommon side in which many of their players would have been part of the minor side that captured the All-Ireland Minor Championship in 2006 without the likes of Rory Dunne, Dane O'Dowd, Barry Watters, Eugene Keating and Conor Smith due to college commitments.

It was Cavan who opened the score after three minutes though, when Cavan Gaels attacker slipped Declan McKiernan inside for a point. Donal Shine cancelled that out for the visitors, but a 30 metre free from Mark Cunningham got the young Breffni men back in front.

The Rossies replied in the best possible fashion when Fintan Cregg crept through to force a good save off Mark Clarke in the Cavan goal and was quickest to the rebound to net his side in front.

A long range free from Shine was met by some accurate kicks from Dunne, but it was Roscommon that would lead at the interval by 1-5 to 0-4.

After the game's resumption, the leaders had put the difference to seven Shine (2) and David O'Gara undoing the Cavan defence before McKiernan and Dunne kept Tommy Carr's side in the chase with a white flag each.

Time was running out on Cavan though and when Kevin Higgins popped up with a superb point at the last quarter it looked as though Roscommon were on their way. Two minutes later Higgins tapped in a goal after a mistake from Cavan's sub 'keeper Brian Coleman.

The half-forward would get his second before the game was out to ensure that a 15-point defeat would be endured by the home side before the full-time whistle sounded.

Cavan - Mark Clarke; Niall O'Reilly, Tomas O'Reilly, Joshua Hayes; Declan Meehan, Damien Reilly, Oisin Minagh; Daniel O'Hara, James McEnroe; Mark Cunningham (0-1), Declan Costello, Declan McKiernan (0-3); Adrian Cole, Enda McHugh, Martin Dunne (0-3). Subs: Stefan Connolly, Raymond Farrelly, John Sheridan, Brian Coleman, Levi Murphy.

Roscommon - Mark Miley; Paul Gleeson, Neil Collins, Peter Domican; Donal Ward (0-2), David Flynn, Colm Garvey; Donal Shine (0-5), David Keenan; Fintan Cregg (1-0), Paul Garvey (0-1), Kevin Higgins (2-1); Conor Devaney (0-1), Mark Laughlin (0-1), David O'Gara. Subs: James McKeague, Keith Waldron (0-1), Ger Brady, Eamonn Bannon, Alan O'Hara.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on January 07, 2009, 06:03:37 PM
Quote from: Homer on January 07, 2009, 04:28:15 PM
From The Hoganstand...

Under 21s crash to defeat against Rossies
07 January 2009

Cavan 0-7
Roscommon 3-13

Cavan's Under 21's suffered a heavy defeat in the preparations for their new season last Saturday as they fell victim to Roscommon by a massive 15 points at St Aidan's, Templeport in the Hastings Cup.

In fairness to the hosts, they were came up against a Roscommon side in which many of their players would have been part of the minor side that captured the All-Ireland Minor Championship in 2006 without the likes of Rory Dunne, Dane O'Dowd, Barry Watters, Eugene Keating and Conor Smith due to college commitments.

It was Cavan who opened the score after three minutes though, when Cavan Gaels attacker slipped Declan McKiernan inside for a point. Donal Shine cancelled that out for the visitors, but a 30 metre free from Mark Cunningham got the young Breffni men back in front.

The Rossies replied in the best possible fashion when Fintan Cregg crept through to force a good save off Mark Clarke in the Cavan goal and was quickest to the rebound to net his side in front.

A long range free from Shine was met by some accurate kicks from Dunne, but it was Roscommon that would lead at the interval by 1-5 to 0-4.

After the game's resumption, the leaders had put the difference to seven Shine (2) and David O'Gara undoing the Cavan defence before McKiernan and Dunne kept Tommy Carr's side in the chase with a white flag each.

Time was running out on Cavan though and when Kevin Higgins popped up with a superb point at the last quarter it looked as though Roscommon were on their way. Two minutes later Higgins tapped in a goal after a mistake from Cavan's sub 'keeper Brian Coleman.

The half-forward would get his second before the game was out to ensure that a 15-point defeat would be endured by the home side before the full-time whistle sounded.

Cavan - Mark Clarke; Niall O'Reilly, Tomas O'Reilly, Joshua Hayes; Declan Meehan, Damien Reilly, Oisin Minagh; Daniel O'Hara, James McEnroe; Mark Cunningham (0-1), Declan Costello, Declan McKiernan (0-3); Adrian Cole, Enda McHugh, Martin Dunne (0-3). Subs: Stefan Connolly, Raymond Farrelly, John Sheridan, Brian Coleman, Levi Murphy.

Roscommon - Mark Miley; Paul Gleeson, Neil Collins, Peter Domican; Donal Ward (0-2), David Flynn, Colm Garvey; Donal Shine (0-5), David Keenan; Fintan Cregg (1-0), Paul Garvey (0-1), Kevin Higgins (2-1); Conor Devaney (0-1), Mark Laughlin (0-1), David O'Gara. Subs: James McKeague, Keith Waldron (0-1), Ger Brady, Eamonn Bannon, Alan O'Hara.

I like to keep myself up to date with most underage players coming through but can anybody tell me what clubs the lads in bold play for?
Thtas not a strong Cavan outfit by any stretch of the imagination while Roscommon have a few Senior players,I wouldnt be too worried by this TBH.we have alot of strong footballers to come back to that panel.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on January 07, 2009, 07:19:35 PM
Although I understand those that say "don't be so negative so early", I would agree with Boojangles' comments re the senior panel but would also mention that I know of one player who should at least be on the U-21 panel. He came home from college two weekends in a row for the Development games only to be told they were postponed and so gave up after that due to exam pressures.
Then despite two of his club-mates being called up for the U-21s he received no call-up despite being at least as good and in fact a more consistent performer. The difference between him and the other two is that they were county minors two years ago and so have been seen by most with any interest in the inter-county scene.
It begs the question of how much scouting is done for underage players or is it just a case of bringing through members of previous U-16 and minor panels.
This one individual has played for his club since he was 16 and has been consistently outstanding but hasn't had the exposure of many others. So when are the likes of Peter Reilly or Tommy Carr supposed to have seen him?
I'm sure there are plenty of others in similar boats.
But as Mr. Pain says, rant over.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on January 07, 2009, 08:16:03 PM
Quote from: boojangles on January 07, 2009, 06:03:37 PM
Quote from: Homer on January 07, 2009, 04:28:15 PM
From The Hoganstand...

Under 21s crash to defeat against Rossies
07 January 2009

Cavan 0-7
Roscommon 3-13

Cavan's Under 21's suffered a heavy defeat in the preparations for their new season last Saturday as they fell victim to Roscommon by a massive 15 points at St Aidan's, Templeport in the Hastings Cup.

In fairness to the hosts, they were came up against a Roscommon side in which many of their players would have been part of the minor side that captured the All-Ireland Minor Championship in 2006 without the likes of Rory Dunne, Dane O'Dowd, Barry Watters, Eugene Keating and Conor Smith due to college commitments.

It was Cavan who opened the score after three minutes though, when Cavan Gaels attacker slipped Declan McKiernan inside for a point. Donal Shine cancelled that out for the visitors, but a 30 metre free from Mark Cunningham got the young Breffni men back in front.

The Rossies replied in the best possible fashion when Fintan Cregg crept through to force a good save off Mark Clarke in the Cavan goal and was quickest to the rebound to net his side in front.

A long range free from Shine was met by some accurate kicks from Dunne, but it was Roscommon that would lead at the interval by 1-5 to 0-4.

After the game's resumption, the leaders had put the difference to seven Shine (2) and David O'Gara undoing the Cavan defence before McKiernan and Dunne kept Tommy Carr's side in the chase with a white flag each.

Time was running out on Cavan though and when Kevin Higgins popped up with a superb point at the last quarter it looked as though Roscommon were on their way. Two minutes later Higgins tapped in a goal after a mistake from Cavan's sub 'keeper Brian Coleman.

The half-forward would get his second before the game was out to ensure that a 15-point defeat would be endured by the home side before the full-time whistle sounded.

Cavan - Mark Clarke; Niall O'Reilly, Tomas O'Reilly, Joshua Hayes; Declan Meehan, Damien Reilly, Oisin Minagh; Daniel O'Hara, James McEnroe; Mark Cunningham (0-1), Declan Costello, Declan McKiernan (0-3); Adrian Cole, Enda McHugh, Martin Dunne (0-3). Subs: Stefan Connolly, Raymond Farrelly, John Sheridan, Brian Coleman, Levi Murphy.

Roscommon - Mark Miley; Paul Gleeson, Neil Collins, Peter Domican; Donal Ward (0-2), David Flynn, Colm Garvey; Donal Shine (0-5), David Keenan; Fintan Cregg (1-0), Paul Garvey (0-1), Kevin Higgins (2-1); Conor Devaney (0-1), Mark Laughlin (0-1), David O'Gara. Subs: James McKeague, Keith Waldron (0-1), Ger Brady, Eamonn Bannon, Alan O'Hara.

I like to keep myself up to date with most underage players coming through but can anybody tell me what clubs the lads in bold play for?
Thtas not a strong Cavan outfit by any stretch of the imagination while Roscommon have a few Senior players,I wouldnt be too worried by this TBH.we have alot of strong footballers to come back to that panel.
Like yourself Boojangles id like to think that id know a fair bit about players around the county,
But i have no idea what club Mark Clarke plays for.
Daniel O Hara is a Shannon Gaels clubman i believe.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on January 07, 2009, 09:21:19 PM
Quote from: Lawrence of Knockbride on January 07, 2009, 07:19:35 PM
Although I understand those that say "don't be so negative so early", I would agree with Boojangles' comments re the senior panel but would also mention that I know of one player who should at least be on the U-21 panel. He came home from college two weekends in a row for the Development games only to be told they were postponed and so gave up after that due to exam pressures.
Then despite two of his club-mates being called up for the U-21s he received no call-up despite being at least as good and in fact a more consistent performer. The difference between him and the other two is that they were county minors two years ago and so have been seen by most with any interest in the inter-county scene.
It begs the question of how much scouting is done for underage players or is it just a case of bringing through members of previous U-16 and minor panels.
This one individual has played for his club since he was 16 and has been consistently outstanding but hasn't had the exposure of many others. So when are the likes of Peter Reilly or Tommy Carr supposed to have seen him?
I'm sure there are plenty of others in similar boats.
But as Mr. Pain says, rant over.
I couldnt agree more about your point there Lawrence.I dont know who you are talking about in particular but I know for sure that in Cavan once you have made your place as a County Minor that will definitely guarantee you at least a call-up at Under-21 level,no matter how you have been playing with your club.That is 3 years after minor level. There is feck all scouting done in this county.Nobody is responsible for it.the County manager will do very little scouting in general.Its handier to just call up a lad from the Under-21 panel.Then we wonder why some lads fall away and on the other side of it,why some lads arent performing that are on County teams.
Most people judge a footballer in this county from reading the Celt,Echo or the Post.the problem with that is that in general it is One mans opinion and in most cases the sports writers in this county dont know next to nothing about football(Kevin Carney and Paul Fitz to a lesser extent not included)Typical lazy journalism- its the same names get mentioned over and over.once a man gets a reputation,its very hard for him to lose it, no matter how bad he plays.I know of one man in my club and no matter how good or bad he plays he will always be earmarked as playing well.Im sure all of yous could name somebody from your own club in the same position.
Until we get some sort of scouting structure in the county at all levels we will always be behind.
Whats Tony Bradys job in the County Board? Is he Coaching Officer?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on January 07, 2009, 09:53:01 PM
would Nicholas Walsh not be Coaching Officer Boojangles??
Tony Brady owns his own business so im told,
a job as a Coaching Officer should be full time.
County Board recently appointed, 5 or 6 full time coaches throughout the county,Tyrone's Peter Donnelly being one of those.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on January 07, 2009, 10:21:04 PM
No Nicholas Walsh is Full-time Development Officer.That is more in charge of games development,development squads and coaching in the schools.he would be the boss of Peter Donnelly, Shaun Doherty and Finbar Reilly and all them coaches AFAIK.As far as I am aware Tony Brady is Coaching officer,but its not a full-time post as it should be.
All it would take is one man to organise scouting for all grades up to Senior.He could have a list of people from all across the county that could watch particular players that may be performing well.If he hears good things about one player then he could go watch him himself.If he thinks he is up to it then he should get a call in to whatever panel applies,or at least be asked to go in and train with a particular panel.There would be an overlap on different teams( A minor could be playing with a senior club team) so he could kill 2 birds with the one stone as they say.I know it would take a full-time post or close to it but surely 25-30k could be set aside each year for such a post.I suppose the best thing to do would be to send in a motion at the next convention.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on January 07, 2009, 11:06:33 PM
Definetely agree,Every club  in the county should be screened and observed at least once throughout the year to see if they have any players to offer,
They way its done nowadays in most clubs,
Club officials are asked to nominate players for trials,
a process which can be complicated and ruined by favouritism etc etc.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on January 09, 2009, 01:04:35 PM
Quote from: boojangles on January 07, 2009, 10:21:04 PM.
All it would take is one man to organise scouting for all grades up to Senior.He could have a list of people from all across the county that could watch particular players that may be performing well.If he hears good things about one player then he could go watch him himself.If he thinks he is up to it then he should get a call in to whatever panel applies,or at least be asked to go in and train with a particular panel.There would be an overlap on different teams( A minor could be playing with a senior club team) so he could kill 2 birds with the one stone as they say.I know it would take a full-time post or close to it but surely 25-30k could be set aside each year for such a post.I suppose the best thing to do would be to send in a motion at the next convention.

One problem with that is who would that man be, scouting for players is a very skilled task and it's surprising to see how many people don't notice all the off the ball runs one forward could make to create space for his centre forward who ends up scoring 7 or 8 points or whatever.  In other words everyone sees the flashy stuff but the simple off the ball work often time doesn't get notice at all.

Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on January 07, 2009, 11:06:33 PM
Club officials are asked to nominate players for trials,
a process which can be complicated and ruined by favoritism etc etc.

I understand your point about favoritism complicating clubs sending some players for trials but I've been at trials that have been ruined by favouritism to certain clubs also.  For example about scouting, we should definitely have another two of our lads involved in the U 21 set up this year, most people on here will guess who one of them is fairly quickly but I doubt if anyone will get the second person.  Even though last year was his third year of intermediate championship and he was minor in '08 and honestly he can play anywhere on the field and did play everywhere for us throughout the year too.  But he didn't make the county minor panel last year (a fact which will always baffle me) and that will probably be held over him for the next few years as regards County selection, but if he had of made the panel, regardless of how he played last year for our seniors he would have been looked at for the U21s this year.  Therein lies the problem with a lot of county football in cavan
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on January 09, 2009, 01:10:57 PM
Would it be that Mullen lad Celt man?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on January 09, 2009, 01:56:19 PM
Quote from: Celt_Man on January 09, 2009, 01:04:35 PM
Quote from: boojangles on January 07, 2009, 10:21:04 PM.
All it would take is one man to organise scouting for all grades up to Senior.He could have a list of people from all across the county that could watch particular players that may be performing well.If he hears good things about one player then he could go watch him himself.If he thinks he is up to it then he should get a call in to whatever panel applies,or at least be asked to go in and train with a particular panel.There would be an overlap on different teams( A minor could be playing with a senior club team) so he could kill 2 birds with the one stone as they say.I know it would take a full-time post or close to it but surely 25-30k could be set aside each year for such a post.I suppose the best thing to do would be to send in a motion at the next convention.

One problem with that is who would that man be, scouting for players is a very skilled task and it's surprising to see how many people don't notice all the off the ball runs one forward could make to create space for his centre forward who ends up scoring 7 or 8 points or whatever.   In other words everyone sees the flashy stuff but the simple off the ball work often time doesn't get notice at all.

Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on January 07, 2009, 11:06:33 PM
Club officials are asked to nominate players for trials,
a process which can be complicated and ruined by favoritism etc etc.

I understand your point about favoritism complicating clubs sending some players for trials but I've been at trials that have been ruined by favouritism to certain clubs also.  For example about scouting, we should definitely have another two of our lads involved in the U 21 set up this year, most people on here will guess who one of them is fairly quickly but I doubt if anyone will get the second person.  Even though last year was his third year of intermediate championship and he was minor in '08 and honestly he can play anywhere on the field and did play everywhere for us throughout the year too.  But he didn't make the county minor panel last year (a fact which will always baffle me) and that will probably be held over him for the next few years as regards County selection, but if he had of made the panel, regardless of how he played last year for our seniors he would have been looked at for the U21s this year.  Therein lies the problem with a lot of county football in cavan
Thats exactly what Im trying to get at,I hate selfish players and it drives me even more insane when I see them getting recognised as being Star men and all that.But at times I wonder whether you'd be better off being a selfish player in this County because thats all anybody
seems to recognise. Not too many people can pick out a player like the one you describe Celt man.But thats not to say there isnt a man who can do the job,but it definitely couldnt be given to any tom,dick or harry.
Like Cootehill for instance,Colm Smith-loads of ability and a great left foot but very selfish and wouldnt have a great work rate.yet he is seen as your star forward.Typical Cavan.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on January 09, 2009, 03:35:11 PM
Quote from: cavan4ever on January 09, 2009, 01:10:57 PM
Would it be that Mullen lad Celt man?

No although Mark Mullen would be a candidate for the U 21s definitely, the other two I meant to say earlier should be very close to if not on the team.
Quote from: boojangles on January 09, 2009, 01:56:19 PM
Thats exactly what Im trying to get at,I hate selfish players and it drives me even more insane when I see them getting recognised as being Star men and all that.But at times I wonder whether you'd be better off being a selfish player in this County because thats all anybody
seems to recognise. Not too many people can pick out a player like the one you describe Celt man.But thats not to say there isnt a man who can do the job,but it definitely couldnt be given to any tom,dick or harry.
Like Cootehill for instance,Colm Smith-loads of ability and a great left foot but very selfish and wouldnt have a great work rate.yet he is seen as your star forward.Typical Cavan.

I agree whole heartily with ya but again look at the people who would have the power to appoint a person to this position... personally I don't think the present county board could run water, never mind a complex organisation like a modern day county board.  Gone are the days when anyone can hold a poistion at the top table - without sitting on the fence some people just aren't qualified to do the job properly.  The county board should be run like a medium sized business and have the right people at the top to administer it too.  The current co board would give that job if it ever existed to someone already in the scene (one of the good old boys), you know the kind, doing the rounds with coaching jobs with the county and doubling up being over teams as well i.e. someone who shouldn't get it.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on January 09, 2009, 07:26:55 PM
Quote from: Celt_Man on January 09, 2009, 03:35:11 PM
Quote from: cavan4ever on January 09, 2009, 01:10:57 PM
Would it be that Mullen lad Celt man?

No although Mark Mullen would be a candidate for the U 21s definitely, the other two I meant to say earlier should be very close to if not on the team.
Quote from: boojangles on January 09, 2009, 01:56:19 PM
Thats exactly what Im trying to get at,I hate selfish players and it drives me even more insane when I see them getting recognised as being Star men and all that.But at times I wonder whether you'd be better off being a selfish player in this County because thats all anybody
seems to recognise. Not too many people can pick out a player like the one you describe Celt man.But thats not to say there isnt a man who can do the job,but it definitely couldnt be given to any tom,dick or harry.
Like Cootehill for instance,Colm Smith-loads of ability and a great left foot but very selfish and wouldnt have a great work rate.yet he is seen as your star forward.Typical Cavan.

I agree whole heartily with ya but again look at the people who would have the power to appoint a person to this position... personally I don't think the present county board could run water, never mind a complex organisation like a modern day county board.  Gone are the days when anyone can hold a poistion at the top table - without sitting on the fence some people just aren't qualified to do the job properly.  The county board should be run like a medium sized business and have the right people at the top to administer it too.  The current co board would give that job if it ever existed to someone already in the scene (one of the good old boys), you know the kind, doing the rounds with coaching jobs with the county and doubling up being over teams as well i.e. someone who shouldn't get it.
I know what ya mean.Politics plays a big part in the running of football in this county,be it the administration end of things or the picking of teams and that is another big problem hindering us. Id have damn all trust in the County Board and you'l be pleased to hear Celt man that it will probably get worse as regards giving jobs out to the boys.There are now only 6 County Board meetings a year after this years convention which means most of the Officers in there will be basically making decisions without consulting the clubs.
Would you have any ideas for a man that could fill that role?
On another point Celt man,I seen yas a few times this year,What age is that McCrudden lad Gary is it,he impressed me against Killinkere.is he underage for Under 21?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on January 09, 2009, 09:17:55 PM
Hiya lads, agree with most of your heartfelt comments about favouritism, fellas being overlooked if they have not made it at underage level, fellas being overlooked if they are not flash harry's etc. etc. However I think the answer at each level of County team (Minor, under 21 and senior) is a bit simpler than ye are making out i.e. Bossman and selectors to get off their holes, attend games, form their own conclusions and take no shite from so called movers and shakers on the County board.

example of same-Marty McHugh-anthony forde and Jason Reilly didn;t play minor football for Cavan (might stand corrected on Jayo, it's a fact re. Forde. Marty also didn't go for the flash harry all the time, more the bloke who could do a very specific job (Shiels, Cunningham) Didn't take shite either-Butt. We're a pretty small enough county, it shouldn't take a massive infrastructure to uncover the real talent-it will take a bit of application, real appreciation of what is required and a tendency not to take too much shite from people .
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on January 09, 2009, 11:19:49 PM
Quote from: boojangles on January 09, 2009, 07:26:55 PM
Would you have any ideas for a man that could fill that role?
On another point Celt man,I seen yas a few times this year,What age is that McCrudden lad Gary is it,he impressed me against Killinkere.is he underage for Under 21?

No idea, someone without an agenda or prejudice against any clubs??? Does such a man exist??  Ehh Gary is 23 sometime this year but I could never see him going for the county anytime soon, just wouldn't have the interest to commit it.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Drung on January 11, 2009, 09:54:53 PM
QuoteLike Cootehill for instance,Colm Smith-loads of ability and a great left foot but very selfish and wouldnt have a great work rate.yet he is seen as your star forward.

Colm Smith is Cootehill's best forward.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tierworker blue on January 11, 2009, 11:31:24 PM
Did'nt make it to Casement today...Anyone at it? Any ska?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on January 12, 2009, 08:12:40 AM
Quote from: tierworker blue on January 11, 2009, 11:31:24 PM
Did'nt make it to Casement today...Anyone at it? Any ska?

I wouldn't think their were to many at it.  Doesn't seem to be any reports knockng about either.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on January 12, 2009, 09:22:52 AM
Didn't go up myself but I thought someone on here was going to make the trip (Ballyhaiseman?). Couldn't get Northern Sound working on the old pc either - although that was probably a blessing in disguise.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on January 12, 2009, 09:32:19 AM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on January 12, 2009, 09:22:52 AM
Didn't go up myself but I thought someone on here was going to make the trip (Ballyhaiseman?). Couldn't get Northern Sound working on the old pc either - although that was probably a blessing in disguise.

Tried that myself they are a disaster.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on January 12, 2009, 11:00:42 AM
Just heard the team that's all.... Fintan Reilly between the sticks, McCormack, Podge and Martin Cahill; McCutchen, Dane O'Dowd and Gunner in the Half backs; Galligan and Walshe in the middle, Mackey, Anton Reilly and Mad Edward, Gumley, Gibney and Pierson in the FF line.  Heard Galligan and someone else got yellows, galligan was also captain. And I believe the bould Larry make an appearance...

Quote from: Drung on January 11, 2009, 09:54:53 PM
QuoteLike Cootehill for instance,Colm Smith-loads of ability and a great left foot but very selfish and wouldnt have a great work rate.yet he is seen as your star forward.

Colm Smith is Cootehill's best forward.

Colml is definitely Cootehill's best scoring forward and that's not always the same thing as a team's best forward...
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on January 12, 2009, 11:08:17 AM
Quote from: Celt_Man on January 12, 2009, 11:00:42 AM
Just heard the team that's all.... Fintan Reilly between the sticks, McCormack, Podge and Martin Cahill; McCutchen, Dane O'Dowd and Gunner(0-1) in the Half backs; Galligan and Walshe(0-1) in the middle, Mackey, Anton Reilly and Mad Edward, Gumley(1-3), Gibney and Pierson(0-1) in the FF line.  Heard Galligan and someone else got yellows, galligan was also captain. And I believe the bould Larry make an appearance...Jason also scored a point.  Cavan only scored 3 points in second half.  Got the scorers from the star don't remember the rest.

Quote from: Drung on January 11, 2009, 09:54:53 PM
QuoteLike Cootehill for instance,Colm Smith-loads of ability and a great left foot but very selfish and wouldnt have a great work rate.yet he is seen as your star forward.

Colm Smith is Cootehill's best forward.

Colml is definitely Cootehill's best scoring forward and that's not always the same thing as a team's best forward...
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on January 12, 2009, 11:09:35 AM
Didn't make it up myself as I was struck down with the dreaded man-flu all weekend.

From Northern Sound I could tell...

Dane O'Dowd seemed to have a good game.
Ciaran Galligan was also said to be playing well up til his dismissal (yellow card)
Martin Cahill was the other player to leave the pitch with a yellow card
Nicolas Walsh went in and out of the game
Gibney made some great catches inside and set-up a lot of scores
LARRY is back!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on January 12, 2009, 11:16:42 AM
Quote from: Homer on January 12, 2009, 11:09:35 AM
Didn't make it up myself as I was struck down with the dreaded man-flu all weekend.


Anyone who travelled up there would need their head examined especially if they were in Breffini the week before. 
It seems like it was an improvement anyway.  Looking forward to the Armagh game next weekend.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on January 12, 2009, 11:20:08 AM
Also I heard the u21s ran out 5 point winners over Longford at the weekend in the Hastings Cup. Didn't hear teams or anything else though.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on January 12, 2009, 11:45:39 AM
Tommy Carr celebrated his first win as manager of Cavan when the Breffni County came away from Casement Park with a hard-fought two-point win over a dogged Antrim side.

The strong breeze blowing from the M1 end of the ground ensured that the football wasn't going to be pretty and while Carr's side scored just three second-half points, they just about deserved their victory.

Antrim, also under new management in the shape of Liam Bradley, will rue a number of missed chances. Corner-forward Ciaran Close and midfielder Michael McCann had gilt-edged opportunities to find the net -- one in each half -- but on both occasions goalkeeper Fintan Reilly saved brilliantly.

The game's only goal came through Cavan's Paddy Gumley, who fired past John Finucane on 22 minutes in the middle of a 1-3 burst without reply for the visitors, after which they led by 1-5 to 0-2.

Six minutes later, Ger Pearson added a point to give Cavan a seven-point cushion, but Antrim replied with points from McCann, Aodhan Gallagher and Close to trail 1-8 to 0-7 at the break.

The home side continued to enjoy plenty of possession after the restart, but were simply not clinical enough in front of the posts. However, they stuck to their task and chipped away at the Cavan lead, cutting the deficit to two points through McCann on 53 minutes.

Close saw his goalbound shot saved when one-on-one with the goalie before Pearson and Eddie O'Reilly gave Cavan breathing space.

Close added his sixth point of the day in injury-time and sub Colm Fleming completed the scoring with a great effort with his first touch of the day, but Cavan held out for a deserved win - much to the relief of Carr.

<>Scorers -- Cavan: P Gumley 1-3 (0-2f, 0-1 '45), E O'Reilly 0-3, G Pearson 0-2, P Brady, N Walsh, J O'Reilly 0-1 each. Antrim: C Close 0-6, M McCann 0-3 (0- 2f), A Gallagher, K Brady, C Fleming 0-1 each.

Cavan -- F Reilly; M Cahill, P Reilly, E McCormack; P Brady, D O'Dowd, J McCutcheon; C Gallagher, N Walsh; C Mackey, A Reilly, E O'Reilly; P Gumley, D Givney, G Pearson. Subs: J O'Reilly for Gumley, L Reilly for Gallagher (yellow card), J Clarke for A Reilly, J Crowe for Brady, Gumley for Cahill.

Antrim -- J Finucane; C Maxwell, S McVeigh, A Douglas; T Scullion, P Carey, L Carlin; M McCann, B Hasson; A Gallagher, K Brady, D McAlernon; C Close, D Graham, G McAleese. Subs: K Cunningham for Douglas, D Edwards for Graham, N O;Connell for McAleese, C Creaney (yellow card) for D McAlernon, K McGlinchey for Hasson, C Fleming for Creaney.

Ref -- C Branagan (Down)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on January 12, 2009, 01:37:31 PM
Anyone who travelled up there would need their head examined especially if they were in Breffini the week before. 
It seems like it was an improvement anyway.  Looking forward to the Armagh game next weekend.
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Cavan4Ever, what kind of statement is that to make? Especially considering the name you've given yourself. Should it be Cavan4EverExceptForWhenThey'rePlayingALongDistanceAwayInTheMcKennaCup?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on January 12, 2009, 01:47:59 PM
Quote from: Lawrence of Knockbride on January 12, 2009, 01:37:31 PM
Anyone who travelled up there would need their head examined especially if they were in Breffini the week before. 
It seems like it was an improvement anyway.  Looking forward to the Armagh game next weekend.
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Cavan4Ever, what kind of statement is that to make? Especially considering the name you've given yourself. Should it be Cavan4EverExceptForWhenThey'rePlayingALongDistanceAwayInTheMcKennaCup?
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It's to far to be travelling at this time of year in bad weather for a glorified challenge game.  Were you in Breffini for the Queens match?  If you were you would understand what im saying. As i said last week this competion is a waste of time when half a dozen of lads that probably would be starting aren't aload play.

P.S  i like your purple writing.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Drung on January 12, 2009, 03:42:43 PM
I know I'd rather have a scoring forward on a club team as opposed to soem other type of forward who doesn't score!

Smith is excellent, he may be a bit greedy but he's by far the best forward Cootehill have.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on January 12, 2009, 04:39:56 PM
Colm Smith is a terrific player,definetely worth his place on the county panel(if hes interested)

Is it true the GREAT ONE from Knockbride is back?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on January 12, 2009, 05:07:11 PM
Quote from: Drung on January 12, 2009, 03:42:43 PM
I know I'd rather have a scoring forward on a club team as opposed to soem other type of forward who doesn't score!

Smith is excellent, he may be a bit greedy but he's by far the best forward Cootehill have.


I know that... Sure we'd be lost without him.... That wasn't my point.... I was trying to make a more general point - for example Brian McGuigan wouldn't be the best scoring forward for Tyrone but a lot of people would say that he is Tyrone's best forward...

And yes, Colm deserves a run with the county but he is in Manchester in college and I'm not sure what way that would work out
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on January 12, 2009, 06:26:20 PM
Cavan4Ever, I was at the Queens game and of course it was poor fair but still I applaud any dedicated Breffnit man who made the journey north. And as for the purple writing, I don't know how to do the quote thing that everyone uses with the purple box. I see you haven't mastered it either.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on January 12, 2009, 06:37:46 PM
Quote from: Lawrence of Knockbride on January 12, 2009, 06:26:20 PM
Cavan4Ever, I was at the Queens game and of course it was poor fair but still I applaud any dedicated Breffnit man who made the journey north. And as for the purple writing, I don't know how to do the quote thing that everyone uses with the purple box. I see you haven't mastered it either.

Yeah its very hard to do.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on January 13, 2009, 08:40:21 AM
Quote from: Lawrence of Knockbride on January 12, 2009, 06:26:20 PM
Cavan4Ever, I was at the Queens game and of course it was poor fair but still I applaud any dedicated Breffnit man who made the journey north. And as for the purple writing, I don't know how to do the quote thing that everyone uses with the purple box. I see you haven't mastered it either.

Hit the quote buton beside the post you want to reply to and it will appear in the reply box you type into. Now please stop using purple - my eyes are getting soar!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on January 13, 2009, 01:24:35 PM
Quote from: cavan4ever on January 12, 2009, 06:37:46 PM
Quote from: Lawrence of Knockbride on January 12, 2009, 06:26:20 PM
Cavan4Ever, I was at the Queens game and of course it was poor fair but still I applaud any dedicated Breffnit man who made the journey north. And as for the purple writing, I don't know how to do the quote thing that everyone uses with the purple box. I see you haven't mastered it either.

Yeah its very hard to do.
Quote from: cavan4ever on January 12, 2009, 06:37:46 PM
Quote from: Lawrence of Knockbride on January 12, 2009, 06:26:20 PM
Cavan4Ever, I was at the Queens game and of course it was poor fair but still I applaud any dedicated Breffnit man who made the journey north. And as for the purple writing, I don't know how to do the quote thing that everyone uses with the purple box. I see you haven't mastered it either.

Yeah its very hard to do.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on January 13, 2009, 01:25:53 PM
That was difficult. Thanks Myles
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on January 13, 2009, 05:06:12 PM
From Hoganstand - Have ye been a naughty boy Ballyhaiseman?

Graham denies walk out rumours

Mickey Graham
13 January 2009


Mickey Graham has brushed aside the accusations that he has vacated his position as Ballyhaise senior football manager - just over a month after taking the job.

by Shane Corrigan

Rumours have been whirling around the county that the ex-Cavan senior, who is also in charge of Cavan's minor footballers this year, was not happy with early signs of a lack of commitment from the Ballyhaise players at the start of the year and was moving towards a return to his native club Cavan Gaels, who had made an approach to him over the senior manager's position.

However, Graham has denied such accusations and confirmed to www.hoganstand.com that he is to stay with Ballyhaise for the 2009 season.

"There's no truth in that," Graham confirmed. "I meet with the players last week and we're starting training for the new season next week.

"There were a few strong rumours going around that I was going back to my own club Cavan Gaels, but I've made a commitment to Ballyhaise and intend to see it through," he added.

With Graham secure at the helm, Ballyhaise will be approaching the 2009 season with thoughts of promotion to top flight status in the county firmly on their minds. Their season begins with a trip to O'Connell Park, Milltown, where they take on intermediate rivals Drumlane on March 1 in the first round of ACFL Division Two.

Meanwhile, county champions Cavan Gaels have indicated that Mick O'Dowd is set to resume as senior manager at the club, after suggestions that the Clontibret man was to leave his position after just a year in charge of the Cavan town side.

"We only had our AGM last Sunday, but at the moment things seem to be the same as last year," said club PRO Philip Finnegan.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on January 13, 2009, 07:24:28 PM
Nah Myles,
just some sh**stiriing from hoganstanders,
There was a load of players at our meeting with Mickey last saturday night.id say 25-30
Some of our lads dont help things with their constant abusing other clubs on the hoganstand messageboard.  ::)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on January 14, 2009, 11:25:38 AM
The best thing about the hoganstand messageboard is that it keeps all the chimps in the one cage. I pray that they may never darken the door of this thread.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Mr. Pain on January 14, 2009, 12:50:37 PM
Did anyone read Tommy Carr's quotes in the Celt today? He says Enda McCormack has been outstanding. Nothing against the guy (before you attack Mr. Pain, Boojangles) but did his man not score five points from play? What about the comment he makes about not being bothered by what mistakes the lads make as long as they are good on the ball? Baffling stuff to Mr. Pain. Anyone agree? Rant ongoing....
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on January 14, 2009, 08:33:21 PM
Quote from: cavanmaniac on January 14, 2009, 11:25:38 AM
The best thing about the hoganstand messageboard is that it keeps all the chimps in the one cage. I pray that they may never darken the door of this thread.

Someone put a quote from here on it earlier in week and said it was from here.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on January 14, 2009, 08:40:29 PM
This board is read by alot of club and county footballers in Cavan,
Fewer register because you cant shit stir like you can on hoganstand.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on January 14, 2009, 09:54:34 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on January 14, 2009, 08:40:29 PM
This board is read by alot of club and county footballers in Cavan,
Fewer register because you cant shit stir like you can on hoganstand.


How you know that ?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on January 14, 2009, 10:06:39 PM
know of at least 5 playing members of my own club who read,
including One who was on the county panel last year.

also know from talking to lads, another 2/3 lads on the county panel have read this thread,
Mainly to see what we think of them to be honest  :P

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4sam on January 15, 2009, 09:14:22 AM
BH Man is right I know of a fair few members of the current county panel who are regular visitors to this site.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on January 15, 2009, 12:34:13 PM
Well long may the quality control remain in place on this site. I looked at Hogan Stand for a week about three years ago and quickly tired of the nonsense.

I'm not saying this place is the nub of philosophical discourse or anything but at least most people here have cop on and manners, or have them quickly taught to them if they don't.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: An Laoch on January 17, 2009, 01:59:41 PM
looks like being a wild evening for the match in Breffni tonight

an interesting game in its own way all the same, one that might even be winable
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on January 17, 2009, 02:50:51 PM
Quote from: An Laoch on January 17, 2009, 01:59:41 PM
looks like being a wild evening for the match in Breffni tonight

an interesting game in its own way all the same, one that might even be winable

If this keeps us will it go ahead?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: An Laoch on January 17, 2009, 03:21:51 PM
never felt a wind like it cavan4ever

I've taken everything in from the garden....just hoping the barna sheds dont lift.

I wouldnt risk driving across the county in this weather anyway
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on January 17, 2009, 03:39:19 PM
Quote from: An Laoch on January 17, 2009, 03:21:51 PM
never felt a wind like it cavan4ever

I've taken everything in from the garden....just hoping the barna sheds dont lift.

I wouldnt risk driving across the county in this weather anyway

Skys opened there for aabout 10 mins seem to have calmed a bit now.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: FermGael on January 18, 2009, 03:17:09 PM
Will Seanie Johnston be back for Cavan in the national league??
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on January 18, 2009, 04:47:53 PM
Great win last night, any time you beat Armagh it's a good win.  Decent enough performance in patches, some great passing movement in some bits only for the final pass to go astray or fall short or mis judged, kinda typical for January though.
Paddy Gumley was impressive, always on the move and looking for the ball, as usual Martin Reilly went through massive amounts of work all over the field.  But we desperately need a full back, when Clarke went in there when Armagh were on top for 10 minutes in the second half he scored two points with ease and missed two more.  Podge Reilly is just too slow for that position (maybe it's the fact that he isn't as fit as he should be but he was never too quick in my opinion).
Good to see Tierney back in a cavan jersey again, had a solid game and chipped in with a point.  Pierson is showing signs of his potential with a couple of sweetly taken points and a lovely finish for the goal.
A few things would worry me, McCormack misjudged the ball on a couple of occasions - even allowing for the terrible conditions - I'm not too sure if he is an out and out corner back and Dane O'Dowd while he does several things very well always seems to give the ball away a couple of times during the game.
Pity about Ronan Reilly getting taken off after 25 mins or so, I believe he was injured - I was looking forward to seeing how he fared... Although Anton had a good game when he came on.  His good pressure overturned the ball which led directly to Pierson's goal.
Overall taking in the 3 games, from a disaster of a game against Queens to an improvement against Antrim and another improving performance against Armagh last night so maybe we are slowly heading in the right direction.

Fintan Reilly, Brides, Podge Reilly, Enda McCormack; Gunner, Dane O'Dowd, Johnny Crowe; Galligan and Walshe; Martin Reilly, Ronan Reilly, Eddie Reilly; Pierson, Tierney, Gumley.
Subs: Anton Reilly for R Reilly; Cahill for Gunner, McKeever for O'Dowd, Gibney for Tierney and Mackey for Gumley.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on January 19, 2009, 02:30:29 PM
Good to see Pierson getting back to himself and hopefully he will stick at it this year.  A full forward line of Johnson, McCabe and Pierson has potential to do alot of damage if they can get the right ball.  

There is a good pick in the Forwards now but with match panels reduced to 24 there will be some dissapointed players. In a panel of 24 how many forwards would normally be in it?


Half Forward/Full Forwards
Flanagan,Lyng,Cullivan,Martin Reilly,Eddie Reilly,Mackey,Anton Reilly,Gumley,Tierney,Givney,Larry,Jason.

Anyone else im missing? James Clarke wont make it and i havent seen enough of Ronan Reilly.

Who has being full back for the U-21's in he last few years?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on January 19, 2009, 04:08:36 PM
Pierson will be more inclined to knuckle down now that there's someone over the team that actually seems to know something about football, but he'll always be a bit of an enigma and might very well switch off again. Hopefully not though, he showed in flashes under Coleman that he's capable of taking on the best on his day. A rejuvenated Pierson might stand as a very pointed indictment of the Keogan folly by the county board.

Anyway, it was decent enough to get a win over whatever sort of side Armagh had out, hopefully we can take another few steps forward when we get the college lads back for the interesting league opener across the border in Longford.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on January 19, 2009, 07:14:45 PM
Flanagan,Lyng,Cullivan,Martin Reilly,Eddie Reilly,Mackey,Anton Reilly,Gumley,Tierney,Givney,Larry,Jason.

Anyone else im missing?


Johnston lad from the Gaels might be worth a run
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on January 19, 2009, 07:29:03 PM
Quote from: anglocelt39 on January 19, 2009, 07:14:45 PM
Flanagan,Lyng,Cullivan,Martin Reilly,Eddie Reilly,Mackey,Anton Reilly,Gumley,Tierney,Givney,Larry,Jason.

Anyone else im missing?


Johnston lad from the Gaels might be worth a run

Quote from: cavan4ever on January 19, 2009, 02:30:29 PM
Good to see Pierson getting back to himself and hopefully he will stick at it this year.  A full forward line of Johnson, McCabe and Pierson has potential to do alot of damage if they can get the right ball.  

There is a good pick in the Forwards now but with match panels reduced to 24 there will be some dissapointed players. In a panel of 24 how many forwards would normally be in it?


Half Forward/Full Forwards
Flanagan,Lyng,Cullivan,Martin Reilly,Eddie Reilly,Mackey,Anton Reilly,Gumley,Tierney,Givney,Larry,Jason.

Anyone else im missing? James Clarke wont make it and i havent seen enough of Ronan Reilly.

Who has being full back for the U-21's in he last few years?

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on January 19, 2009, 08:42:11 PM
Fair point Cavan4Ever, hard to see him not being there unless he decides to go travelling or some such, hope not. Any chance Flanagan might end up in defence which is where he's operating with DCU, gives you one more space to fill in the forwards
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on January 19, 2009, 09:10:36 PM
Quote from: anglocelt39 on January 19, 2009, 08:42:11 PM
Fair point Cavan4Ever, hard to see him not being there unless he decides to go travelling or some such, hope not. Any chance Flanagan might end up in defence which is where he's operating with DCU, gives you one more space to fill in the forwards

Id say Flanagan prob will play in defence.  If everyone stays fit there should be a good forward line and half back line.  Midfield will be weak and we all know the problems in the full back line.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Mr. Pain on January 19, 2009, 11:07:39 PM
Call him Mr. Raider call him Mr. Wrong
Call him Mr. Pain
Call him Mr. Raider call him Mr. Wrong
Call him Mr. Pain
He'd say: I know what I want
and I want a row
I want you cause I'm Mr. Pain
I know what I want and I want a row
I want you cause I'm Mr. Pain


Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: North Longford on January 20, 2009, 01:32:03 PM
Quotehe interesting league opener across the border in Longford.

On our side of the border I would say the main interest is actually what 15 Longford will have.
For some strange reason despite the acquisition of Glen Ryan things seem to have gone a bit belly up.
The 20+ point hammering by Louth does not tell a lie with the amount of players missing for various reasons and Ryan has said he is going to continue to use the league to experiment.
The depth of talent in Longford football does not allow for much valid experimentation.
The list below are the players who played for Longford in the championship last year.
None of those in bold are likely to be playing against Cavan and its probably true to say if you were asked to name the 5 best players in Longford most of them would come form these. I fear a hiding!!

D Sheridan;  - Injured longterm
D Brady,
N Farrell,
C Conefrey;  - retired
S Mulligan,  - currently not available
A O'Connor,
DC O'Reilly; - currently not available
L Keenan, - Injured longterm
P Dowd (0-02); - injured
D Farrell,
P Barden (0-02), - injured
D Masterson;
F McGee (0-04, 1f),
P Berry,
B Kavanagh (0-03, 2f). - currently not available
K Mulligan,
P Foy 
James Martin (0-3, 2f), currently not available
David Barden  - injured
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on January 20, 2009, 07:48:16 PM
Quote from: Mr. Pain on January 19, 2009, 11:07:39 PM
Call him Mr. Raider call him Mr. Wrong
Call him Mr. Pain
Call him Mr. Raider call him Mr. Wrong
Call him Mr. Pain
He'd say: I know what I want
and I want a row
I want you cause I'm Mr. Pain
I know what I want and I want a row
I want you cause I'm Mr. Pain




What sort of gobshite are ya?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on January 20, 2009, 07:52:26 PM
Quote from: Celt_Man on January 20, 2009, 07:48:16 PM
Quote from: Mr. Pain on January 19, 2009, 11:07:39 PM
Call him Mr. Raider call him Mr. Wrong
Call him Mr. Pain
Call him Mr. Raider call him Mr. Wrong
Call him Mr. Pain
He'd say: I know what I want
and I want a row
I want you cause I'm Mr. Pain
I know what I want and I want a row
I want you cause I'm Mr. Pain




What sort of gobshite are ya?

:D :D :D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Mr. Pain on January 21, 2009, 11:00:12 AM
Celt Man, Mr. Pain was trying to lighten up the site a little bit. You are now on Mr. Pain's hitlist and off his Christmas card list! You think you know pain?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on January 21, 2009, 10:14:09 PM
Jesus North Longford, that looks like a fairly thorough emptying of the can.

I can see Ryan's reasons though, if there are so many not available along with the fact that he's a new man in an unfamiliar county, he has little choice but to experiment if it's only to confirm that the talent is not there. How many of the Leinster minor side from a few years back actually came through?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: North Longford on January 22, 2009, 10:34:43 AM
QuoteHow many of the Leinster minor side from a few years back actually came through

From Last years championship........

N Farrell,
S Mulligan,  - currently not available
DC O'Reilly; - currently not available
D Farrell,

plus Enda Williams who was injured for the championship last year.
I suppose 1/3 is not too bad if they were all still available.

The following years minor team was possible even better but got beaten by Louth in the 1st round.
They subsequently were very unlucky to lose a leinster U21 final to laois and would have added the following to last years team

P Dowd (0-02); - injured
D Masterson;
F McGee (0-04, 1f),
P Berry,
B Kavanagh (0-03, 2f). - currently not available
P Foy


and the following from the same team are also on the panel this year

B Gilleran,
B McElvaney
K Smith,
C Flynn (59).

plus shane Mulligan and Noel farrel were underage for the second year.

So the 2003 minor team/2006 U21 team has contributed 12 to the panel which is way above average i'd say.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Drung on January 22, 2009, 02:56:50 PM
Classic stuff on Hogan stand today...

Point 1 : its called sarcasim! I know u ballyhaise people dont have much of a sense of humor,but come on-try to smile once in a while or ar you in a thick mood looking towards as quoted "another unsuccessful slog in division 2"?
Point 2 :This is a message board for comments! its not an spelling competition!
Point 3 :All my medals I won-I played for all them every match leading to the final and including the final-just shows how much you know!

Point 3 to lighten up your humor-Did you hear of the Ballyhaise Bra?....All support and no cup!!

Point 3 in twice. Brilliant.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on January 22, 2009, 04:05:42 PM
Quote from: Drung on January 22, 2009, 02:56:50 PM
Classic stuff on Hogan stand today...

Point 1 : its called sarcasim! I know u ballyhaise people dont have much of a sense of humor,but come on-try to smile once in a while or ar you in a thick mood looking towards as quoted "another unsuccessful slog in division 2"?
Point 2 :This is a message board for comments! its not an spelling competition!
Point 3 :All my medals I won-I played for all them every match leading to the final and including the final-just shows how much you know!

Point 3 to lighten up your humor-Did you hear of the Ballyhaise Bra?....All support and no cup!!

Point 3 in twice. Brilliant.

Sweet mother of god let this cretin never find this board.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on January 22, 2009, 06:12:43 PM
 :D :D :D  It gets better and better.  That place should be closed down or else a age limit but on it on sign-up.  Thats persuming that they are kids if there not god help them.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on January 22, 2009, 07:59:18 PM
Hogan Stand, some good posts and posters, it's a pity that you have to wade through some desperate dross to get there. Interestingly though, about a year ago a certain visitor to this thread had to effectively re-sit his/her admission exam to Hogan Stand when the other posters ganged up on said person for the particularly inane nature of material posted. Some achievement or what.

T Carr maintaining a fair media presence anyway, hope it's still going on in July. Look forward to Longford in just over a week. So the two problem positions-fullback-in common with every County in the Country. Secondly midfield, are things getting a bit more promising there-Walsh if he can remain injury free, the Galligan lad seems to have started well and is getting stuck in which would not have been a huge trait, McCabe (?), Ray Cullivan is playing there with DCU might be an option. Final comment/question, can anybody update on Sean Brady, unless I'm mistaken he won a County medal in Dublin playing midfield for UCD a few years ago and was highly rated which seemed promising-injuries, loss of interest or something else? Thanks for any help on this one.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on January 22, 2009, 08:12:16 PM
Are the new rules going to be in place for the championship?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Drung on January 23, 2009, 10:36:06 AM
Quotethe Galligan lad seems to have started well and is getting stuck in which would not have been a huge trait

Seeing as you have said "seems", I take it you haven't seen any matches so far this year.

How many times have you seen Galligan play?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on January 23, 2009, 10:56:40 AM
Yes Drung I'm long gone out of the County by a fair distance and have not seen any matches this year, so my opinions on lads like Galligan are very much based on second hand reports. There seems to be some potential there anyway, what's your view?

On a separate  note TG4 are showing the O'Byrne final between DCU and Louth live on Sunday which may have a few Cavan lads lining out. Might be interesting.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Drung on January 23, 2009, 01:06:16 PM
You shouldn't cast aspersions on players without having really seen them play.

Galligan was oustanding for us in the championship and has been good for Cavan so far, along with Walsh.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on January 23, 2009, 01:49:54 PM
I'm glad to see Walsh back in the midfield. He may not be as skillfull a player as we'd hoped he'd be (after being a very skillful minor) but he does get stuck in. I can't believe that idiot Keoghan didn't play him all last year until the Kildare game (a game he nearly swung our way). Walsh will not leave a ball easy won against him and when you are short a couple of really good midfielders you need a spoiler like walsh. Galligan is playing well and I know some have their doubts about him but I'm happy to see Carr give him a few games to find his feet, unlike Keoghan who gave his midfielders about 20 mins each in the McKenna cup last year, before hauling them off in the 1st half.
Our fringe players beating Armaghs fringe players has to be a boost to the confidence if nothing else. We also know that in past years Cavan have gone ok in the McKenna cup and early league as they may have had a fitness advantage which was erroded as the league completed. New rules mean that this is not the case now, so in many ways it was a level playing field.
We have a lot of good players to come back in but we still have a lot of problem positions. FB is the obvious big one. I am not confident over Podge in there. I suspect Dunne might have to grow up quicker than we'd like and take that role. Ctr Back is troublesome too. I see Podge being a bit better out there but with the possibility of gaynor "maybe" coming back who knows come championship.
The positive is that we have some real potential up front. The trio of Johnstone, McCabe and Pierson in the FF line (assuming all going well) is a real big threat to any back line in the country. Then we have the likes of Lyng and Cullivan too. Some nice potential subs like Larry (if fit), Jason and Tierney. Two or three years of good management, good focus and good player dedication could result in us getting back to having a decent shot at ulster. Maybe just maybe there is some light at the end of what has been a dark period for Cavan football.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on January 23, 2009, 01:52:42 PM
Welcome on board Drung. Wasn't aware that I was casting aspersions in any particular direction. If you don't mind I'll let you settle into the board a wee bit before deciding whether I accept your instructions/suggestions as to what I post. It would be a huge boost to Cavan football if a top class inter county midfielder can be uncovered, whoever that is. I keep thinking back to Pierce McKenna who I would have seen in action many times. An awful lot of us weren't too impressed with him for his first year or two, we would be more than happy so see his likes now. The moral of the story being that we might need to persist with lads and give them a chance to develop, something we weren't great at over the last year or two.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on January 23, 2009, 01:53:45 PM
Quote from: Drung on January 23, 2009, 01:06:16 PM
You shouldn't cast aspersions on players without having really seen them play.

Galligan was oustanding for us in the championship and has been good for Cavan so far, along with Walsh.

Think you are being a bit touchy there Drung. I dont think AC was slagging Galligan. There was a feeling last year that he didn't get stuck in as much as we'd have hoped and AC was just saying it is good to see him going well. I think we'd all like to see him do very well for Cavan.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4sam on January 23, 2009, 02:20:40 PM
Id just like to get your definition on getting stuck in lads? Its good that he has been given a few games to help him settle in and also the confidence boost of being made captain for the last 2 games is a sign that Carr likes him.

Wait and see is what I say
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on January 23, 2009, 03:00:26 PM
Quote from: cavan4sam on January 23, 2009, 02:20:40 PM
Id just like to get your definition on getting stuck in lads? Its good that he has been given a few games to help him settle in and also the confidence boost of being made captain for the last 2 games is a sign that Carr likes him.

Wait and see is what I say

I suppose, from what I seen of him last year I thought there was a lack of aggression from him when competing for the ball, a sort of hunger to get that ball at all costs. Everyone has a section of their game they need to work on, maybe that was his. Now I hear he had a good championship this last year so no doubt he is improving. I really don't want to slag the lad though because I'd love to see him do well and Carr obviously thinks he has the potential to do well.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on January 23, 2009, 03:46:55 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on January 23, 2009, 03:00:26 PM
Quote from: cavan4sam on January 23, 2009, 02:20:40 PM
Id just like to get your definition on getting stuck in lads? Its good that he has been given a few games to help him settle in and also the confidence boost of being made captain for the last 2 games is a sign that Carr likes him.

Wait and see is what I say

I suppose, from what I seen of him last year I thought there was a lack of aggression from him when competing for the ball, a sort of hunger to get that ball at all costs. Everyone has a section of their game they need to work on, maybe that was his. Now I hear he had a good championship this last year so no doubt he is improving. I really don't want to slag the lad though because I'd love to see him do well and Carr obviously thinks he has the potential to do well.

He wasn't on the panel last year.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on January 23, 2009, 04:08:23 PM
Ive played against Ciaran my whole football career, i would also know him pretty well by now.
Ive heard people question whether he has guts and whether he was a coward,Which is complete bullshit,if you've seen enough of him or played enough against him enough,You would know thats not the case.
Hes not a Trevor Crowe or Nicholas Walsh in that he doesnt go  throwing his weight around looking for contact,Hes a stylish classy footballer who wants to play football,but will get stuck in when its necessary.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on January 23, 2009, 04:54:39 PM
I'd have seen a little bit of him BH Man and I know lads that played on teams with him in college etc. they'd all have the opinion that he lacks intestinal fortitude. It was at one stage something of an in-joke on the team. I was at boiling point watching him in Newry a few years ago, he had no steel at all, was just going through the motions which was a desperate sight because he's built like a tank.

But like ac says, lads can change and come on in a few years so if he's back in there on merit and doing well - albeit that he's miles fitter than anyone else because he's definitely a dedicated buck who looks after himself - then that can only be a good thing and I hope he continues to make progress. I wish him luck and it'd be brilliant for the team if he developed into a true county midfielder, but doubts remain until we see him play in a tough match I suppose.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on January 23, 2009, 05:11:05 PM
Hes can be sluggish at times,but ive never seen him pull out of a 50/50 ball
A Few people have said to be he was miles fitter than everyone else,he may be sharper but he definetely doesnt have the stamina
He definetely wasnt in the Queens game because he ran out of steam in the last quarter like everyone else, and only made a few bursts after that.
The way IC Midfield these days require at least 1 to be over 6'3,(Tyrone being an exception to the rule)
Barring injury, Galligan for me is a definite starter come the championship, i dont want to see a Dermot McCabe/Nicholas Walsh midfield AGAIN,giving away 3 or 4 inches of height in the most important sector of the field.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on January 23, 2009, 05:22:10 PM
The more I read of this debate the more I think of Pierce McKenna. He came into the panel as a guy who was very much playing second fiddle (you guessed who), it took him a while on the panel to develop a bit of contrariness which did his game no harm. In fairness to Galligan in the Down game Maniac, and I could stand corrected here, he was sprung from absolutely nowhere for the replay into midfield in a Championship game, another masterstroke from our departed leader. Now well and good if this was an established player coming back from injury, but in that case young Galligan was an inexperienced player coming back from injury. I'm sure, subconsciously, there must have been a very smalll bit of him that day wondering "how the @#@@ did I get here"

Any info on Sean Brady anybody?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on January 23, 2009, 05:27:18 PM
Galligan didnt play much football against Down in Newry,however he largely curtailed Dan Gordons influence who if you remember absolutely destroyed Cavan at midfield in the first game.
That for me often gets overlooked.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4sam on January 23, 2009, 06:44:19 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on January 23, 2009, 05:27:18 PM
Galligan didnt play much football against Down in Newry,however he largely curtailed Dan Gordons influence who if you remember absolutely destroyed Cavan at midfield in the first game.
That for me often gets overlooked.

You just managed to get in before me BHMan, I thought Galligan had a very good game that day against Down. If you look at the drawn game in Breffni, Dan Gordon absolutley destroyed us making runs from midfield and Mulvey wasn't fit enough to track him. Galligan was sent out in the replay to stop Gordon, and for me he did a good job at this.

I for one am glad that he is getting a run in the team because he really is the best prospect we have coming through, Mulvey is never going to be fit enough for championship football, McDonald is more interested in going on the beer and John Cunningham wouldn't get a game for some club teams. Eugene Keating might step up but is young and after that the next best is Gearoid McKiernan who is still young and a bit of a loose cannon from what I hear. Galligan has all the right attributes, is totally commited and has made a good start. I hope to see a midfield of Galligan and Walsh for the championship.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Drung on January 23, 2009, 07:25:35 PM
QuoteIt was at one stage something of an in-joke on the team

If we're going to repeat every "in-joke" we hear then we'll be here a long time.

Quotehe was sprung from absolutely nowhere for the replay into midfield in a Championship game, another masterstroke from our departed leader.

If that wasn't enough the following season he repeated the dose - twice! Keogan handed two fellas who had never even played a league game for Cavan a starting jersey at no 9 in one championship  - McDonald and Keating.

Surely that's a record and if it's not, the fact that he took McDonald off and put him back on is.

McDonald must be only player to make two starting appearances and one as sub in his two championship matches!!!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on January 23, 2009, 07:33:14 PM
Anglo Celt mentioned your clubmate Sean Brady C4Sam,
id hope this would be the year that he cements his starting place on the county team,we all know of his undoubted ability.
Id like to see him tried at Centre Half Back.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on January 23, 2009, 07:39:05 PM
Cavan football is on the up!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on January 23, 2009, 07:56:31 PM
well after last year, its the only way it could head  :-[
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on January 23, 2009, 08:38:55 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on January 23, 2009, 07:33:14 PM
Anglo Celt mentioned your clubmate Sean Brady C4Sam,
id hope this would be the year that he cements his starting place on the county team,we all know of his undoubted ability.
Id like to see him tried at Centre Half Back.


Where would you position Mark McKeever BHM. I still think back to that day against Armagh when McKenna got sent off in the first minute (was it 04?). I think Mckeever was drafted into the centre in the re-organising that went on. I though the was awesome that day. But I suppose there's a lot of water under the bridge since then and he's been chopped and changed a good bit since.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Drung on January 23, 2009, 09:37:49 PM
I thought he played as a conventional wing-forward that day?

Could be wrong though...

Jesus he was class that year. Unreal against Derry too.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on January 23, 2009, 10:55:15 PM
He scored a couple of unreal points against Derry,
If it had been Maurice Fitzgerald or the Gooch who scored them,people countrywide would still be raving about them.
For all Marks qualities,His one weakness is speed,he doesnt have blazing speed,Himself and Ronan Flanagan are two similar and somewhat interchangeable players players,outstanding on the ball,tough as nails,but both lack pure speed and both can play either a half back or forward.
Any coach will tell you your fastest men on the team should be your backs,Dont know with the way the game is going whether we can afford both Flanagan and McKeever in the backline.
id have Mark as a wing forward.

Ray Cullivan Michael Lyng Mark McKeever

Sean Johnston Dermot McCabe Gerard Pierson

everyone fit that would be my forward line.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on January 23, 2009, 11:11:18 PM
I'm not sure where McKeever ended up that day, I thought Trevor Crowe was moved out to the middle after McKenna was sent off and McKeever was drafted back, I just remember being awe struck by this 19 year old barrelling into Armagh men without fear or favour, and that's without even thinking of the points which others have mentioned. Other memories of that day were a fired up Ger Pierson and McCabe patrolling midfield on one leg-the common theme of course being Gowna and the late Eamon Coleman, interesting indeed. That year can possibly go down as a massive missed opportunity-Crowes one and only year, Lyng and Gaynor plucked from minor level and doing some serious stuff. Eamon RIP had his faults but christ he showed that we have the players to do the business if there is a bit of belief instilled. Over to Mr. Carr.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on January 23, 2009, 11:15:44 PM
Quote from: anglocelt39 on January 23, 2009, 11:11:18 PM
I'm not sure where McKeever ended up that day, I thought Trevor Crowe was moved out to the middle after McKenna was sent off and McKeever was drafted back, I just remember being awe struck by this 19 year old barrelling into Armagh men without fear or favour, and that's without even thinking of the points which others have mentioned. Other memories of that day were a fired up Ger Pierson and McCabe patrolling midfield on one leg-the common theme of course being Gowna and the late Eamon Coleman, interesting indeed. That year can possibly go down as a massive missed opportunity-Crowes one and only year, Lyng and Gaynor plucked from minor level and doing some serious stuff. Eamon RIP had his faults but christ he showed that we have the players to do the business if there is a bit of belief instilled. Over to Mr. Carr.

best memory of that year for me was against Derry. Anthony Gaynor lost the head momentarily as he was getting a hard time with Johnny McBride, and wee Eamon goes mental with him,all you could see from the terrace was them going at verbally,
And the Cavan and Derry fans in stitches.  ;D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on January 23, 2009, 11:26:12 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on January 23, 2009, 11:15:44 PM
Quote from: anglocelt39 on January 23, 2009, 11:11:18 PM
I'm not sure where McKeever ended up that day, I thought Trevor Crowe was moved out to the middle after McKenna was sent off and McKeever was drafted back, I just remember being awe struck by this 19 year old barrelling into Armagh men without fear or favour, and that's without even thinking of the points which others have mentioned. Other memories of that day were a fired up Ger Pierson and McCabe patrolling midfield on one leg-the common theme of course being Gowna and the late Eamon Coleman, interesting indeed. That year can possibly go down as a massive missed opportunity-Crowes one and only year, Lyng and Gaynor plucked from minor level and doing some serious stuff. Eamon RIP had his faults but christ he showed that we have the players to do the business if there is a bit of belief instilled. Over to Mr. Carr.

best memory of that year for me was against Derry. Anthony Gaynor lost the head momentarily as he was getting a hard time with Johnny McBride, and wee Eamon goes mental with him,all you could see from the terrace was them going at verbally,
And the Cavan and Derry fans in stitches.  ;D

Pierson nearly chipping Hearty with Cavan leading by 2 points and time nearly up :(
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on January 23, 2009, 11:32:18 PM
I'm fairly sure he played at ctr back after Crowe went to mid field. He went ploughing into armagh men that day like they were minors. Its amazing what lads can do when they have nothing to lose.

As for the Gaynor, coleman spat. That was nothing compared to the U21 final when Gaynor got sent off. I was sitting behind the Cavan dug out and coleman went absolutley bananas with gaynor. Called him every sort of a c*nt that ever walked. It was awful funny. Gaynor looked totally shell shocked :D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on January 23, 2009, 11:45:28 PM
Quote from: Drung on January 23, 2009, 07:25:35 PM
QuoteIt was at one stage something of an in-joke on the team

If we're going to repeat every "in-joke" we hear then we'll be here a long time.

Being an 'in-joke' doesn't mean it wasn't being said, by an actual team mate of his, do you think I just made it up for the craic? Like I said, I hope he comes on strong, literally. Nobody could but be pleased to see a big and somewhat mobile man operating effectively around the middle for Cavan.
Btw, I think it was Tommy Carr that was quoted about him being a good bit fitter than most others on the team. Anyway, I don't want it to sound like I'm against the lad, I just have my doubts, but players can up their game and I hope my doubts are unfounded.

ac is a man after my own heart with that observation about how the Gowna lads were running through walls for Coleman. It just shows there is potential there if the right man instills the right attitude (and don't bother wading in Max we don't want to hear it). That was the last time Cavan really looked like doing something although the following year took us to Rd 4 of the qualifiers I think we were slipping back into bad habits.

Jesus don't remind me of the game against Derry. I have the video of it here - two balls I think dropped into the goalkeeper's arms in the dying moments and the scores level (I'd rather see a ball blazed wide than that) one of them from Jayo, can't recall the other. And then we were shot to ribbons in extra time. Another galling loss to Derry, by Jesus they've made us pay for '97.

Myles was that U21 game against Down, went to extra time? I recall it clearly. Coleman went f**king postal altogether after he got the line, in fairness he was a candidate for a red all match and Coleman was at his wits' end trying to keep him in check, he just went ape when Gaynor inevitably let his hot head ruin things.

Ach let the games begin then we can really start talking. Who's heading Longford?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tierworker blue on January 24, 2009, 02:18:58 AM

I'm heading anyhoo. Other stuff goin' down over the last few weeks meant that I did'nt get to any mc Kenna cup games and I'm itching for the league to start!
For the first time in years I have the feeling we're on the road back to something decent. The last eejit set us back years, and it'll take time to build a proper foundation but with the right set up and a reinstilled sense of belief (that has been lacking for far too long...the psychological side is as important an element as anything imo) it'll not be long before we're compeditive again methinks.
I feel a change in the air...nothing like a new beginning to shake things up, eh?!
You may change that tagline Cavanmaniac...it's safe to wake up...the year of the idiot is over!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on January 24, 2009, 11:14:41 AM
Quote from: tierworker blue on January 24, 2009, 02:18:58 AM

I'm heading anyhoo. Other stuff goin' down over the last few weeks meant that I did'nt get to any mc Kenna cup games and I'm itching for the league to start!
For the first time in years I have the feeling we're on the road back to something decent. The last eejit set us back years, and it'll take time to build a proper foundation but with the right set up and a reinstilled sense of belief (that has been lacking for far too long...the psychological side is as important an element as anything imo) it'll not be long before we're compeditive again methinks.
I feel a change in the air...nothing like a new beginning to shake things up, eh?!
You may change that tagline Cavanmaniac...it's safe to wake up...the year of the idiot is over!
I'll be there too. Only saw the Queens game which was depressing. But I have my season ticket ordered. Did any of the rest of ye invest in one? Anyone heading to cheer on our boys in Drogheda tomorrow
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4sam on January 24, 2009, 01:00:25 PM
BHMan sorry for only getting back to you now re Sean Brady. To tell you the truth your guess is as good as mine with that man. it really is time for him to step up to the mark at seior inter county level, he has never done anything of note (although some seasons were ruined by injury) and this will be his sixth year on the panel. I think Sean is too lazy, Cavan had a meeting before the Armagh game last week and all players were supposed to be there college lads and all and there was no sign of Sean Brady or Dermot McCabe (there may have been others absent but i know those 2 for a fact). I think if he was dropped of the panel it might give him the kick up the arse he needs. Maybe then he might play a few games for us and get back to his best. In reality he hasn't played to his full potential for Castlerahan since we won the Intermediate in 2001 when he was outstanding, he was 16 for that whole championship apart from the 2 finals.


We had our first meeting with new manager Eamonn Barry on Sunday last and there was sign of Sean either, in fact only 17 turned up. Sean is undoubtedly a superb player, dont get me wrong, but I dont know if this will be his year, I hope he proves me wrong.

I know a lot of you will disagree with me on this point but I think Ronan Flanagan should be centre half back for Cavan. Ive seen so much of the lad and played with him often enough to know that his most effective position is at CHB. Some of you might think that he is not a stopper, which he isn't but his contribution from CHB is unbelievable. He has unbelievable vision and sees everything so quickly. I know a lot of you that were at the Kildare game last year think that Nicholas Walsh changed the game but in my opinion in was the move to put Ronan at CHB that changed it. If he has a flaw it is that he is too versatile and can paly as well at corner back as he could at corner forward. He needs to nail down a position.

I was going to make the trip to Drigheda tomorrow but i think i will watch it on the box instead. In all our conversation about midfielders I dont think we really mentioned that Cullivan has been playing there for DCU for the whole of the O'Byrne Cup and it will be interesting to see what Tomy Carrs plans are for him. In my opionion he is a bit too short to be a top class inter county midfielder but if you had Pierson and Johnston inside on their own and Cullivan lined out at 14 but brought out to play around the middle it would be interesting. Ill definitely be in Longford next Sunday, lets hope our boys get off to a winning start.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: The Forfeit Point on January 24, 2009, 01:05:48 PM
you shouldnt have any fears cavan4sam, ye will get your winning start! in tatters at the moment, dont seem to be able to pull together a decent club team!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on January 24, 2009, 02:36:43 PM
Quote from: cavan4sam on January 24, 2009, 01:00:25 PM
BHMan sorry for only getting back to you now re Sean Brady. To tell you the truth your guess is as good as mine with that man. it really is time for him to step up to the mark at seior inter county level, he has never done anything of note (although some seasons were ruined by injury) and this will be his sixth year on the panel. I think Sean is too lazy, Cavan had a meeting before the Armagh game last week and all players were supposed to be there college lads and all and there was no sign of Sean Brady or Dermot McCabe (there may have been others absent but i know those 2 for a fact). I think if he was dropped of the panel it might give him the kick up the arse he needs. Maybe then he might play a few games for us and get back to his best. In reality he hasn't played to his full potential for Castlerahan since we won the Intermediate in 2001 when he was outstanding, he was 16 for that whole championship apart from the 2 finals.


We had our first meeting with new manager Eamonn Barry on Sunday last and there was sign of Sean either, in fact only 17 turned up. Sean is undoubtedly a superb player, dont get me wrong, but I dont know if this will be his year, I hope he proves me wrong.

I know a lot of you will disagree with me on this point but I think Ronan Flanagan should be centre half back for Cavan. Ive seen so much of the lad and played with him often enough to know that his most effective position is at CHB. Some of you might think that he is not a stopper, which he isn't but his contribution from CHB is unbelievable. He has unbelievable vision and sees everything so quickly. I know a lot of you that were at the Kildare game last year think that Nicholas Walsh changed the game but in my opinion in was the move to put Ronan at CHB that changed it. If he has a flaw it is that he is too versatile and can paly as well at corner back as he could at corner forward. He needs to nail down a position.

I was going to make the trip to Drigheda tomorrow but i think i will watch it on the box instead. In all our conversation about midfielders I dont think we really mentioned that Cullivan has been playing there for DCU for the whole of the O'Byrne Cup and it will be interesting to see what Tomy Carrs plans are for him. In my opionion he is a bit too short to be a top class inter county midfielder but if you had Pierson and Johnston inside on their own and Cullivan lined out at 14 but brought out to play around the middle it would be interesting. Ill definitely be in Longford next Sunday, lets hope our boys get off to a winning start.

I agree C4S, Flanagan did swing the Kildare game more than Walsh. Walsh definitely spoiled everything that came his way at midfield and was a huge improvement as I've never seen a pair dominate that area as Kildare's two men did. But equally, McKeever was disgracefully bad that day at CHB and when Flanagan moved in there it coincided with Cavan getting a foothold.
I'd be happy to see him there for a few league games as his reading of the game can easily make up for his lack of stature. Put it this way, I'd prefer him there than Podge and definitely ahead of Chesty who would most likely step aside for a big man anyway. If Gaynor came back and got his game together then he's an obvious option but that's a very huge IF and not one we should be holding out for.
I'd say Cullivan would do us for wing-forward where he can add another pair of hands to our new look midfield. McCabe at full-forward, providing he's in some way mobile, is our best best IMO. Sean Brady for full back I say ;)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on January 24, 2009, 09:08:16 PM
So are Sean Brady and McCabe training with the county if they are missing meetings?

I was reading in the gaelic life that Cavan and some other counties have hired John Maughan to train their Dublin based players. I think Mayo were one of the other teams. With so many players in Dublin you'd wonder how well that would work if Carr is working on tactics and the like. Maybe it is only for the pre season hard running stuff.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on January 25, 2009, 02:01:10 PM
The stories of the Late Eamon and Anthony G, bring tears to your eyes. Gave him his start at senior level as a 19 year old, you get the impression that Eamon was like a father trying to control an out of control son by times. I was at a game against Waterford in Dungarvan a few years ago when we absolutely hammered the Deise, it was embarrasing really, Despite the total mismatch it didn't stop Anthony getting involved in a running battle with his opposite number. Cue Eamon bursting a blood vessel from the sideline trying to get him to "Calm the !@#@#@ down.........", possibly not the best way to look for the desired effect but priceless in a way. Eventually the lad was subbed to a stream of invective from Wee Eamon.

We could run a separate thread in tribute to the departed Derry Man. I was at a League Match in Wexford Park in the piss pours of rain, the one year Trevor Crowe lined out. A narkier shower of feckers in the stands and on the sideling you would travel a good distance to come across. The agro was getting serious between the mentors and Paddy McNamee and Marty McIlkennon were showing themselves as well capable of holding the Breffni line. In the middle of the Shemozzle Eamon is roaring at the Wexford lads calling them "free state B@#tards". In the excitement I think he forgot that he was now in charge of a team of free state b@#@rds"
Thanks for the memories and hope the view is good from Heavens sidelines Eamon.

Boojangles was having a go here the other week about too many people being on the panel based on what they did at minor level. By the looks of it, seems that Sean Brady would be one case in point. He's been around the panel for the last 3/4 years without doing an awful lot. If he's not showing the interest at this stage might be time for a rest.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on January 25, 2009, 02:43:49 PM
Quote from: anglocelt39 on January 25, 2009, 02:01:10 PM


Boojangles was having a go here the other week about too many people being on the panel based on what they did at minor level. By the looks of it, seems that Sean Brady would be one case in point. He's been around the panel for the last 3/4 years without doing an awful lot. If he's not showing the interest at this stage might be time for a rest.

What i heard of him last year he was well rested as he was always carrying a injury when it came to training and was lazy.  Maybe C4S can let us know if he is a good trainer from what i heard he isn't
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on January 25, 2009, 05:46:48 PM
Watched the DCU Louth game today,

we had Barry Watters(on programme at corner back but was dragged out)
Dermot Sheridan and Ronan Flanagan on the wings,
Ray Cullivan at midfield.

Barry Watters done well at times as did Rony Flanagan who got yellow carded in frustration near the end. Dermot Sheridan seemed to be doing a man marking job on Darren Clarke at least for the first half,made a few good blocks and interceptions,but had a tough time on the on-form Clarke.
Ray started well,kicked a good score and caught a couple but went out of the game after that,His marker Brian White had a great game. Disappointed with his performance.

Jelly came on,kicked a few frees and a lovely score from play,and lofted a high ball in for the goal.

so sign of Michael Lyng(injured???)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on January 25, 2009, 08:34:40 PM
Jelly got t wo points from play. Both suberb. Ball into his chest, 1/2 steps and bang over the bar. One of the right and one of the left. I'd say he most of got 0-5 in half a game. I think Cullivan is too small for midfield and likewise Flanagan too small for ctr back. Shierdan got a bit of a roasting. Louth looked very fit. So much for no training in December. The same applies for Donegal who finished strong in extra time against Queens which makes me wonder how long they've been training.

Anyone hear about Cavan playing a challenge this weekend?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on January 25, 2009, 09:29:43 PM
Cavan beat wexford in a challenge on Saturday. Think it was 2-14 to 12 points. Larry and Tierney were supposed to be on fire, larry wit 5 and Tierney wit 1-3. Team was: Elliot; McCormack, dunne, fannin; McCutcheon, sean brady, Cahill; Podge, Gibney; Martin Reilly, Anton Reilly, McKeever; jayo, Tierney and Larry.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on January 26, 2009, 10:54:20 AM
Great to see that optimism has returned to the thread.

Saw the DCU game on TG4 and Louth were well worth their win.  At times it seemed like men against boys.

Looking at the game, I was thinking that DCU were a Cavan-lite team when I thought it was only Watters, Cullivan and Johnson.  Now it seems there were other cavanmen on the team.

I thought that Cullivan had a good first half but was a bit anonymous in the 2nd half.  Surprised to see Watters as a corner back but was thinking that maybe he was going to used like Ryan McMennamin of Tyrone.  He does play as a forward in Cavan (?) and it was a bit obvious when he tried to tackle.

Enough of the analysis, it is great that Cavanmen are getting lots of game and it can only be for their and our good.  Roll on assault on Division 3!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on January 26, 2009, 10:59:01 AM
Quote from: Denn Forever on January 26, 2009, 10:54:20 AM
Great to see that optimism has returned to the thread.


I thought that Cullivan had a good first half but was a bit anonymous in the 2nd half.  Surprised to see Watters as a corner back but was thinking that maybe he was going to used like Ryan McMennamin of Tyrone.  He does play as a forward in Cavan (?) and it was a bit obvious when he tried to tackle.

Enough of the analysis, it is great that Cavanmen are getting lots of game and it can only be for their and our good.  Roll on assault on Division 3!

He has played nearly all his club football in the forwards. The louth corner forward came out the field and that was probaly the reasons that watters was put there.  His attacking abilities would be stronger than his defensive ones.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cornafean on January 26, 2009, 12:56:14 PM
If there's anyone from Cornafean here, they might be interested in this article which appeared in the Sunday Indo yesterday.

http://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-football/tradition-and-toil-keep-the-flame-alive-1614024.html

The print edition of the paper also contains a nice photo of Peadar McSeain, Sean Masterson and Pat Joe Brady along with a Cornafean jersey.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on January 26, 2009, 02:20:20 PM
Found this on cavan gaa board, Cavan beat wexford 2-14 to 12 points. Larry and Tierney were supposed to be on fire, larry wit 5 and Tierney wit 1-3. Team was: Elliot; McCormack, dunne, fannin; McCutcheon, sean brady, Cahill; Podge, Gibney; Martin Reilly, Anton Reilly, McKeever; jayo, Tierney and Larry.

Will whoever posted this stop quoting this board on hoganstand. 
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on January 26, 2009, 04:59:02 PM
Are most people heading to Longford on Sunday?

Who would you prefer to see in goals Ellliot or Fintan Reilly?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on January 26, 2009, 06:50:20 PM
Hope to head over to longford. The person quoting you on hoganstand is probably just having a wee look in and not posting here. I'd say that the hoganstand admin will not let them print the URL of this site. I feel like that film "night of the living dead", we are all in the safe shopping mall of gaaboard and the zombies are outside in hoganstand trying to get in to eat our brains!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on January 26, 2009, 06:56:13 PM
Quote from: cornafean on January 26, 2009, 12:56:14 PM
If there's anyone from Cornafean here, they might be interested in this article which appeared in the Sunday Indo yesterday.

http://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-football/tradition-and-toil-keep-the-flame-alive-1614024.html

The print edition of the paper also contains a nice photo of Peadar McSeain, Sean Masterson and Pat Joe Brady along with a Cornafean jersey.

I doubt they are looking in, I'd say your the only one with internet access out there in Redland. ;)

From the article....

"Some fine players came from the outskirts, from Killeshandra and Arvagh, to play for the Reds in those days of plenty because they had a senior team and it offered blow-ins a route to the county team"

To name a few "blow ins" from Killeshandra,
Big Tom
John Joe
Tommy Connolly
Packie Phair
Packie Devlin
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on January 26, 2009, 06:59:27 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on January 26, 2009, 06:50:20 PM
Hope to head over to longford. The person quoting you on hoganstand is probably just having a wee look in and not posting here. I'd say that the hoganstand admin will not let them print the URL of this site. I feel like that film "night of the living dead", we are all in the safe shopping mall of gaaboard and the zombies are outside in hoganstand trying to get in to eat our brains!

:D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tierworker blue on January 26, 2009, 10:27:43 PM
Quote from: cavan4ever on January 26, 2009, 06:59:27 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on January 26, 2009, 06:50:20 PM
Hope to head over to longford. The person quoting you on hoganstand is probably just having a wee look in and not posting here. I'd say that the hoganstand admin will not let them print the URL of this site. I feel like that film "night of the living dead", we are all in the safe shopping mall of gaaboard and the zombies are outside in hoganstand trying to get in to eat our brains!

:D

Sssssshhhhhhh......they might hear us!
What time is the game on Saturday evening?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on January 27, 2009, 08:12:20 AM
Quote from: tierworker blue on January 26, 2009, 10:27:43 PM
Quote from: cavan4ever on January 26, 2009, 06:59:27 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on January 26, 2009, 06:50:20 PM
Hope to head over to longford. The person quoting you on hoganstand is probably just having a wee look in and not posting here. I'd say that the hoganstand admin will not let them print the URL of this site. I feel like that film "night of the living dead", we are all in the safe shopping mall of gaaboard and the zombies are outside in hoganstand trying to get in to eat our brains!

:D

Sssssshhhhhhh......they might hear us!
What time is the game on Saturday evening?

It's on Sunday in Longford.  Not sure of the time probably 14.00 or 14.30
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on January 27, 2009, 11:29:31 AM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on January 26, 2009, 06:50:20 PM
I feel like that film "night of the living dead", we are all in the safe shopping mall of gaaboard and the zombies are outside in hoganstand trying to get in to eat our brains!

;D

You can understand some of them wanting to eat brains though. What's seldom seen over there must taste wonderful.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: LackenLegend on January 27, 2009, 11:37:10 AM
Hello there lads, it has been a while. Don't worry, i've been reading back and am now up to date. Are there many lads missing for Sunday? It's a pity we didn't get to see more of the lads in McKenna Cup.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cornafean on January 27, 2009, 11:40:07 AM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on January 26, 2009, 06:56:13 PM

I doubt they are looking in, I'd say your the only one with internet access out there in Redland. ;)


;D

Quote from: mylestheslasher on January 26, 2009, 06:56:13 PM

To name a few "blow ins" from Killeshandra,
Big Tom
John Joe
Tommy Connolly
Packie Phair
Packie Devlin

"Through the length and breadth of Breifne they are singing one refrain
God rest you John Joe Reilly you were the pride of Killeshandra :o :o :o "


;D

I don't think Big Tom & John Joe could be classed as "blow ins from Killeshandra". They did have Killeshandra addresses (as do half of Cornafean) but Being from the Upper Derries, they went to Corliss School and they played football in Cornafean from the time they were children.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on January 27, 2009, 05:39:56 PM
Quote from: cavan4ever on January 26, 2009, 04:59:02 PM
Are most people heading to Longford on Sunday?

Who would you prefer to see in goals Ellliot or Fintan Reilly?

Fintan Reily over Eoin Elliot everytime.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on January 27, 2009, 05:40:36 PM
Its been years since ive been in Pearse Park, anyone got directions?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on January 27, 2009, 06:09:55 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on January 27, 2009, 05:40:36 PM
Its been years since ive been in Pearse Park, anyone got directions?

http://maps.google.com/maps?f=d&source=s_d&saddr=Ballyhaise+Cavan&daddr=Pearse+Park,+Longford,+Co.+Longford,+Republic+of+Ireland&hl=en&geocode=&mra=ls&sll=53.74064,-7.795572&sspn=0.016244,0.038624&ie=UTF8&z=10

Don't know whether I will be able to make it yet but fingers crossed.

Throw-in is at 2.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: North Longford on January 27, 2009, 06:29:30 PM
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Coming in from edwardstown
You won't find that on a map but when you get to Edgeworthstown  ;) next town is Longford on the Sligo road.
You'll come to a roundabout at the edge of Longford and you need to go right onto the Bypass(Second exit).
Go straight through the next roundabout and when you get to the third one, ;) Pearse park is the first exit off it to the left but as I said you might be as well to park there before the roundabout for a quick getaway. (Altho I'm afraid a lot of us may be gone before it's over!)

Excuse my spelling!

Will it be ok to park there will the car be sitting on blocks when i get back?    :P

Directions from another thread where I got some help from Cavan4ever and reciprocated it with directions.

And to answer the last question...........now we'd hardly leave 4 good blocks behind would we!!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on January 27, 2009, 06:30:59 PM
Head to longford from Arva and you are heading in the right road. If you come the edgeworthstown road head for Sligo till you get to the Drumlish roundabout and then head into the town. Ground is on the right hand side just a bit along that road
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: LackenLegend on January 28, 2009, 10:14:23 AM
Yeah, it's beside McDonalds isn't it?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on January 28, 2009, 10:36:20 AM
Yeah just past McDonalds.

Use to go there every year for the Fr. Manning Cup final. Cavan reqularly made the final and won it on more occasions than not too. A sign of things to come?  :'(
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: LackenLegend on January 28, 2009, 10:57:36 AM
It will be interesting to see how Carr lines out the team. It would be great to see some of the so-called "stars" back and mixed in with the new lads who are playing well. You have to look at Larry to start or at least feature on Sunday. It's no journey to Longford really from any part of Cavan and any Cavan man who can make it should!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on January 28, 2009, 06:13:20 PM
Are the students back available for this weekend?

I fancy Cavan to win this one (providing carr is making it a priority to get promoted and isn't going to use the league like another McKenna cup) . I think it is vital we do and set ourselves up for the next game at home.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4sam on January 29, 2009, 09:23:50 AM
Sorry for being away for so long lads, work commitments and all that.

Heard Cavan were pretty good against Wexford on Saturday, Sean Brady is supposed to have performed well at CHB while Rory Dunne was also fairly solid at FB, he was marking Mattie Forde. David Gibney started at a serious pace at midfield catching a few balls and kicking 2 points in the opening 10 minutes but his man also kicked 2 points in the same period, not fond of tracking back. He went off 5 minutes into the second half with sore hamstrings. Mark McKeever was apparently excellent at HF and the star of the show was Larry Reilly kicking 5 points from play. John Tierney played well in the second half when the Wexford players got tired, scored 1-3

Just to go back to the question somebody asked me about Sean and training, he would be kinda lazy i suppose but hopfully with him now injury free we might to get to see the best of him. May be in line to start at CHB on Sunday.

Ill be at the match anyway, apparently Longford are a shambles so hopefully we get off to a winning start!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on January 29, 2009, 01:16:11 PM
Has anyone seen Tierney recently? Is he in good physical shape or carrying alot of weight or what? He seems to be playing well in most games anyway, he's a player I'd love to see getting a good run of matches to see what he can do, which I suspect, is quite a bit.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4sam on January 29, 2009, 02:21:32 PM
Tierney seems to be carrying quite a bit of timber but from what i have heard he is actually in the best shape he has been in for a long time.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on January 29, 2009, 05:53:10 PM
Looking at the Cavan Hoganstand message board this evening and seen the following post...


QuoteDenn Man:      Could everybody please read the last paragraph on the Nuggets AGM update.....


So back to the main Cavan page and open up the article..........


QuoteMount Nugent club notes
29 January 2009

Droichead Ui Dalaigh
Mount Nugent gaa
Newsletter Weekending 1st February 2009

Issue No 53
Juvenile AGM
The Juvenile AGM was held on Friday 23rd January with a disappointing turn out of Parents. Tina Mc Cabe stepped down as Chairperson after two years in the position. We thank Tina for her hard word and dedication during her term in office and it was a pleasure to work with her. She has a great love of the game and we will miss her from the Juvenile club. The Juveniles loss is the Ladies Club gain. Tina is First aid officer with the ladies. Thanks again Tina and we wish you every success with our Ladies team. Kieran Knowd was elected as Chairperson. Kieran has been involved with underage football for a number of years with the club and we look forward to working with him in 2009 and beyond.

Chairman ; Kieran Knowd Secretary ; Siobhan Duffy Treasurer ; Breege Reilly Club/School Link ; Paul Campbell

U14 Management ; Arthur O'Reilly, Mattie Finnegan & Dermot ( Jahobi) Brady

U12 Management ; Kieran Known, Kieran Woodful & Louise O'Reilly

U6/8/10 Management ; Kevin Smyth, Paul Campbell, Andy Cooke, Mario Sylvetta

First Aid officer : Louise O'Reilly

Juvenile Membership : ?10 (now due)

Training for U12 & U14's starts on Sunday 1st February at 12 noon

U12 league starts on 30th March and U14 league starts on 2nd April

Senior AGM
The Senior AGM took place on Saturday 24th January with a large turn out for what was a very constructive (and fun) meeting. Sean Reilly stepped down as Club Chairman after 12yrs of service. Sean was an inspirational leader who took a hands on approach to running the club. He was never one to shy away from hard work or decision making and led by example when it came to getting jobs done. Sean succeeded Norbert Hanley in 1996 and guided the club through 12 years of team building and grounds development. He was always available to speak to and had Mountnugent Gaa running through every fibre of his body. Most of the present Senior team were playing underage football ( I said "most") when Sean took office and through an excellent underage structure we now have a team capable of fighting for top honours. Sean has not gone away and has vowed to continue working for the club. He wished all teams' success in the coming year and thanked all club officers and members for their support during his tenure as Chairman. We in turn thank Sean for his hard work and dedication to the club and wish him well in his (semi) retirement
Michael Caffrey succeeds Sean as Chairman. He brings a wealth of experience and knowledge to the position as he has been vice Chairman for a long number of years. We wish to take this opportunity to wish Michael every success in the job and to assure him of our full support as he leads the club to what we hope will be a golden era for Mountnugent GFC.

Chairman: Michael Caffrey Vice Chairman: Terry Reihill Secretary: John Duffy Assistant Secretary: Siobhan Duffy

Treasurer : Peter Boylan PRO; Noeleen Douglas, Siobhan Duffy, Terry Reihill Medical Officer; Terry Reihill

Delegates to the County Board; The rule has changed regarding delegates with only the Chairman & Secretary attending County Board meetings. In the absence of either one, a club office must replace them. These officers are Peter Boylan and Terry Reihill

Irish officers : Ronan Caffrey & Thomas Brady Referee : Jimmy Brady Linesmen/umpires: Stephen Deveraux to arrange for games

Gate attendance: Peter Boylan, Keith Greene, Noel O'Hagan, Suzie O'Reilly, Sean Cooke

Grounds maintenance Committee ; Dermot Brady, Chrissie Murray, Joey Adams, David Sheridan, Peter Boylan, Sean Brady, Martin Dunne, Seanie Reilly

Senior Team management; Sean Fitzpatrick, Dave Clarke & Bernie Lynch

U21 Team Management: Dermot Brady, Bernie Lynch & Eurick Reilly

Minor and U16 Team Management: Eurick Reilly, John Duffy, Conor Kelly, Killian Fitzsimons, Darren Fitzsimons, David Sheridan, Mattie Finnegan
& John Brady

Scor ; 2009 is the 40th Anniversary of Scor and Mary Garry appealed for more help with Scor. She is looking for Actors, singers, a team for question time and someone for a recitation. As we have a ladies club we are entitled to enter two teams in each category.



Membership ; details of membership will be published next week as we are looking into an offer of membership combined with entry to the lotto for 12 months.


Meeting on Thursday 29th January
There is an important meeting on Thursday 29th January at 9pm in the Clubrooms. Membership, lotto and injury management are on the agenda. All players/ members please attend.

Ladies Senior Training
Senior training continues on Wednesdays at 8pm and Sundays at 1pm. All new members welcome. With only four weeks to go to the start of the league, fitness and skills have to be worked on.

Ladies U14 training
The management and committee met last week and it has been decided that U14 training will re commence on 2nd March at 6.30pm . All parents must be present before commencement of the first U 14 training session.

Lotto Results
Results from Monday 26th Jan 2009
Jackpot ? 9400 Winning No's 6, 16, 20, 22 No Jackpot Winner Next weeks Jackpot ? 9550 Tickets ?2
5 x ?20 Winners
Caroline Murphy Ross , Matt McDonnell Dungimmon, James Tuite C/o Jacobi, P & A Smith Ross Mary Caffrey Tullyegan

Election time - Get Voting
The nominations have been made for the Anglo Celt / Northern Sound GAA player of the year award. Our clubman David Givney has been nominated for Junior Player of the year. There is an open vote for club of the year on the nomination sheet. Vote for Mountnugent. . Let's give our club players the recognition they richly deserve. Vote for David and vote for Mountnugent. Get voting !
You can post in the nomination sheet from the Celt or e mail your selection to media-awards@cavan.gaa.ie or register at anglocelt.ie

Cardiac Screening
Coole Surgery, near Castlepollard offers a Cardiac Screening Programme. It is a 30 minute session which involves questions on Family Medical History, an ECG and a physical examination. Cost per person is ?60 and screening is advised for players aged from 12 to 35 years. Appointments can be made with Dr Richard Look Tong 044 9661104

Scor
The first round of Scor takes place in Drumavaddy on Friday 20th February. Mary Garry needs your help with sketches, singing, recitations etc. Contact Mary 049 8541772

Star Personality - is this you ?
AQUARIUS- The Sweetheart ( Jan 20 - Feb 18) Optimistic and honest. Sweet personality. Very independent. Inventive and intelligent. Friendly and loyal. Can seem unemotional. Can be a bit rebellious. Very stubborn, but original and unique. Attractive on the inside and out. Eccentric personality.

Two Blue
We now have two Clubmen wearing the blue shirt of Breffni. Graham Patterson played for Cavan U21's against Longford last weekend and we have David Givney on the Senior team at present. We wish both lads every success with Cavan and we hope their experience will be of benefit to Mountnugent in 2009.

Happy Birthday
We wish to send our best wishes to this week's birthday girl, Louise O' Reilly.

And Finally
Flynn staggered home very late after another evening with his drinking buddy, Paddy. He took off his shoes to avoid waking his wife, Mary. He tiptoed as quietly as he could toward the stairs leading to their upstairs bedroom, but misjudged the bottom step. As he caught himself by grabbing the banister, his body swung around and he landed heavily on his rump. A whiskey bottle in each back pocket broke and made the landing especially painful.
Managing not to yell, Flynn sprung up, pulled down his pants, and looked in the hall mirror to see that his butt cheeks were cut and bleeding. He managed to quietly find a full box of Band-Aids and with the aid of the mirror began putting a Band-Aid as best he could on each place he saw blood.
He then hid the now almost empty Band-Aid box and shuffled and stumbled his way to bed.
In the morning, Flynn woke up with searing pain in both his head and butt and Mary staring at him from across the room.
She said, "You were drunk again last night weren't you?"
Flynn said, "Why you say such a mean thing?"
"Well," Mary said, "it could be the open front door, it could be the broken glass at the bottom of the stairs, it could be the drops of blood trailing through the house, it could be your bloodshot eyes, but mostly.....it's all those Band-Aids stuck on the hall mirror.



:D :D :D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on January 29, 2009, 07:20:34 PM
I wonder was it done intentionally - pure class :D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on January 29, 2009, 08:48:17 PM
Anyone have the master fixtures. i cant find them.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on February 01, 2009, 06:11:12 PM
How in gods fuckin name do you lose a game when you have at least 70% possession.  >:(
Longford got into our half about 4 times in the second half!
absolutely disgusted at losing a match we dominated,
we Lost this game from numbers 1 to 4.

Goalkeeper Fintan Reily cost us a point by being slow and should have done better with that first goal.

Michael Brides,was average enough,caught sleeping for the first goal.


Padraig Reily, i dont enjoy saying this,because i like the guy and think he has great football ability,but he was atrocious today,
slow,cumbersome,and was in serious trouble in the air against that big full forward,who scored 2-1 i think
im afraid the Podge era at full back has seen its last day,still place for him on the team but he just doesnt have the speed for FB

Martin Cahill same as brides,not sure which of the full back line was caught sleeping for the goal from a ball dropped short.
Horrendous stuff alround though,

Paul Brady,thought he done well,and won his personal battle,picking up breaks and driving forward.

Ronan Flanagan,dropped in front of the full back line in the first half,picking up breaks and stray ball,had a good battle with Pauric Berry in the second half,but overall i thought he done well.

Johnny Crowe,won some good breaks and came off the better of his marker,didnt look very fit though.
I thought the half back line all in all were very good.

Midfield,
Ciaran Galligan,played well i thought,won the dirty ball,put his head and body on the line a few times,drove forward well also.
Nicholas Walsh,struggled with Kevin Mulligans speed at times,but Nicko put himself about a bit won breaks,gave some good ball(and a few bad ones) into the forwards.Tired near the end and was replaced by a board favourite Lorcan Mulvey!!
Midfield won their battle all ends up for me,We had streams and streams of possession.

Half Forwards
Eddie Reily, Eddie Worked hard but drifted out of the game after the first 20 minute sin which he was prominent,replaced by Jelly near the end,done ok,but not one of eddie's best games for cavan.

Ray Cullivan, thought my former clubmate was outstanding, fielded some great ball,and gave some great ball into the forwards especially in the first half,he did miss one and get blocked down,but i was encouraged,good to see him back to near his best.

Mark McKeever,decent throughout,worked hard,got on a bit of ball,but didnt impact the game as we know Mark can,maybe it will come as the fitness improves,i dont know, he just hasnt shown that ability in the last 2 years,which we know he has.

Martin Reily, terrific from frees except his last one which he missed,won some good ball out in front,and was fouled alot,would like to see him score a few more from play,but overall done well.

David Givney,i was pulling my hair out,over him at times, hes a terrific targetman, with fantastic hands,that catch he made down the town-end to set up a goal chance, was as good as you would see anywhere, he does lack pace though,and takes a bit too much out of the ball, sometimes,with a bit of coaching hes going to be a star.

Gerard Pierson, Gerry was good from frees throughout mostly,wasnt great from play in the first half,but had a great second half,kicked one lovely point in particular from play,his marker was eventually double black booked,as he was hanging out of Pierson the whole game.

subs
Seanie Johnson,Seanie came on and kicked a point,but hes not match fit or sharp at all,doubt we would have seen him at all,only things were going so bad.

Larry Reily,The Great one didnt do much when he came on,got done for overcarrying once,
has a bit more beef to lose,before we see  his best.

Lorcan Mulvey,came on,gave the ball away,yep.
dont know if anyone else came on,i was out the gate when McGee scored Longfords sixth point.

The Goalkeeper/ Full Back line were a complete bombscare,its no exagerration to say Longford had about 5 attacks in 30 minute sthe second half,and they came away with 2-1.
Big Shanley at full forward looks a good player for our neighbours,but he wont make anyone forget about Benny Coulter/Ronan Clarke/Stephen O Neil.
we have got to clean up that mess back there or we will be embarrassed come the championship.
Forwards dropped 4 balls into the goalkeepers hands,thats the only other concern for me.
Otherwise we arent in bad shape.

Congratulations to our longford neighbours,
Despite you missing about 80% of your first choice players,you beat us fair and square,
Best of luck for the rest of the league and championship.

i think il go into hibernation until the Tipp game,this one today stung!!!!

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Shamrock Shore on February 01, 2009, 06:17:05 PM
My virginal posting in the Cavan thread  :o

Thanks man from Ballyhaise. I listened in on Shannonside and I couldn't believe how we won that one. We were odds on for a Biblical baytin but Cavan seemed to have conspired successfully not to win a game there for the taking.

What this says about Cavan is anyones guess.

Early days to be sure and I hope to see ye boys (hey, I am married to a Cavan woman) do well for the rest of the year.

Cavan and Longford for promotion!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: LaurelEye on February 01, 2009, 06:18:57 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on February 01, 2009, 06:11:12 PMCongratulations to our longford neighbours,
Despite you missing about 80% of your first choice players,you beat us fair and square,
Best of luck for the rest of the league and championship.

Anyone who ever said that Cavan people weren't generous never met the Cavan defence ;D

Best of luck to Cavan in the rest of the league and thanks for the best wishes - I think we're going to need them.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on February 01, 2009, 07:29:32 PM
Miller is needed back in nets ASAP.  If he had of played today we would have won.

Thats the worst team that we will play all year and couldn't beat them.  A team wouldnt have that amount possesion in two games 
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on February 01, 2009, 07:48:53 PM
Well lads plenty of people on this thread predicted that we were going to be in trouble in the full back line and so it has come to pass. The options seem to be limited enough it seems-Dermot Sheridan was under serious pressure against Louth for DCU. Where is Hannon? The year we got through the qualifiers against Meath etc. he was superb. I think he suffered a bit by being the one we offered up to mark Benny Coulter against Down a few years ago when, in reality, nobody in Cavan would have lived with said man.Eamon Reilly? Gunner?

Don't want to be a total pessimist but I think we seriously needed a win today, Longford aren't in great shape and I don't fancy our chances of promotion after that. We need three wins to stay in Division 3 and relegation to 4 would be an absolute shagging disaster.

The comment about Miller is also relevant, when was the last time we conceded three goals with him in the sticks, could do with working on his kickouts mind.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Drung on February 01, 2009, 09:16:20 PM
The goalkeeper was at fault for a point in the first half (Longford's first I think) but he wasn't at fault for ANY of the goals.

The first goal Padraig Reilly went up and the forward fisted it and it deflected off Podge's hand and in off the far post. The second one Fintan Reilly actually made a good save when he was hopelessly exposed but the forward buried the rebounder (again, the full back was at fault).

The third goal, my clubmate Ciaran Galligan made a big mad flap at it instead of busting through man and all - the forward just stuck out his fist and directed it home.

The problem was not the keeper, it was the full-back. Podge is a great footballer but he's not an inter-county full-back. Time to try a new option there and maybe experiment with Podge somewhere else.

All in all it was a very good performance bar the goals! Sounds stupid but it's true. Should have been 0-12 to 0-6.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on February 01, 2009, 09:44:24 PM
Quote from: Drung on February 01, 2009, 09:16:20 PM
The goalkeeper was at fault for a point in the first half (Longford's first I think) but he wasn't at fault for ANY of the goals.

The first goal Padraig Reilly went up and the forward fisted it and it deflected off Podge's hand and in off the far post. The second one Fintan Reilly actually made a good save when he was hopelessly exposed but the forward buried the rebounder (again, the full back was at fault).

The third goal, my clubmate Ciaran Galligan made a big mad flap at it instead of busting through man and all - the forward just stuck out his fist and directed it home.

The problem was not the keeper, it was the full-back. Podge is a great footballer but he's not an inter-county full-back. Time to try a new option there and maybe experiment with Podge somewhere else.

All in all it was a very good performance bar the goals! Sounds stupid but it's true. Should have been 0-12 to 0-6.



He may not have being at fault as such but i though he made a poor attempt to get to the first and the third nearly hit him on the way past.  If Miller had of being playing Cavan would have won.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on February 01, 2009, 11:31:51 PM
lads
no sign of Paddy Gumley
John Tierney
or Anton Reily on the panel, 3 lads who were good in the McKenna Cup and challenges. were they cut from the panel?

its far too soon to cut down to 24 players like Carr done friday night.yes a panel of 43 needed to be cut down,but not that much.
Yes you can only name 24 for a game,but why not keep 30 of a panel.

of the lads that i would imagine might be starting come championship we were without

Keith Fannin(sub)
Dermot Sheridan(sub)
Dermot McCabe
Sean Brady
Michael Lyng
Michael Hannon
James Reily
Jason Reily.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on February 02, 2009, 08:12:28 AM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on February 01, 2009, 11:31:51 PM
lads
no sign of Paddy Gumley
John Tierney
or Anton Reily on the panel, 3 lads who were good in the McKenna Cup and challenges. were they cut from the panel?

its far too soon to cut down to 24 players like Carr done friday night.yes a panel of 43 needed to be cut down,but not that much.
Yes you can only name 24 for a game,but why not keep 30 of a panel.


Id say it isn't cut down that much yet.  They will need at least 30 players to cover for injuries and suspension.  You are right about those 3 players anyway.  It would have being ideal to bring on Tierney when Givney went off.  No direct ball went in after that.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on February 02, 2009, 08:31:02 AM
As BMH says, how do you lose to a team that you had as much as 80% possesion against and a team that are simply not nearly as good as Cavan. Incredible that we lost this game. We had a wasteful first 20 minutes when we owned the ball but kept giving it away. Then we got hit for the first of 3 sucker punch goals against the run of play. Longford sensed we were a bit shell shocked and pushed on for the last 10 minutes of the 1st half (the only time they got any sort of decent possesion) tagging on a few points. The 2nd half had to be seen to be believed. We won almost 100% possesion from every kick out and did quite well with the ball against Longfords "all out defend" where they had only two men in cavans half and also their repetitive fouling which the ref was a joke on btw (i'll elaborate more on the thread on the new rules). So we pull ourselves back only to get hit on the counter for a terrible terrible goal and then we pull ourselves back again to take the lead only to concede another woeful goal.

Anton Reilly did ok. Was responsible for a point but thats it. Anyone complaining about him being slow of his line should also remember that it is not exactly James Reillys strong point either. Hard to rate ourt corner backs of Brides and Cahill. Had nothing to do most of the game. Brides at fault for one goal. Podeg was atrocious. He is no full back and doesn't look like he wants to be playing there if I read the body language right. It was not speed that did him yesterday lads. The guy he was marking was no speed merchant. It is concentration that is his problem. He is reacting too slowly to his mans runs. He also has no real physical presence to be playing in there. I know Carr has no ready made FB at the moment and he is trying to "build" one but I think he'll have to build elsewhere.
Half back line (crowe, Flanagan and Gunner) were ok in the 1st half but dominated totally in the 2nd (although Flanagan had a good battle with the Longford No 11 when he came on). In midfield we won hands down. Galligan did well breaking ball to his own men as did walsh throwing his weight around. Still some room for improvement as the ball in was not always great. Half forwards (Eddie, Cullivan & McKeever)did not work hard enough for me in the 1st half. We had lots of possesion in the FF line and no runners were coming on the shoulder to break down the Longford mass defence. Eddie was on the ball a lot in the 1st half but seemed to tire. Cullivan really picked it up in the 2nd half and was our best player. Looks really bulked up and strong. McKeever had a poor game imo. Looks to not be fit and kicked some poor passes. Pearson was very wasteful in the 1st half but most of got a kick up  the hole at half time as he was really up for it in the 2nd and was repeatedly fouled by his man who eventually got a yellow card. Givney was a mixed bag. Won nearly every ball that went into him (even some real shitty balls coming out of the clouds) but then gave it away when he got it - sometime due to having no support and sometimes just by taking too much out of it. Martin Reilly did ok and was good from frees.

Some positives. First time in a long long time we looked a big team. Crowe, Walsh, Galligan Givney all looked bigger and stronger  than there counterparts. We played all the ball and if we played Longford tomorrow we'd beat them easy. That game was a freak incedent in that they got so many soft goals. If we were playing  them tomorrow Podge would have to be moved out of FB i'm afraid. Other negative is that it does not look like we'll be getting promoted and we could get into some bother in this league now. We have difficult away games at Down & Louth. We have to win our home games againts Tipp, Limerick and Offally to stay clear of trouble.

So who can we realistically try at FB. Here are some names, some are not practical but we need to consider everybody...

Dunne - too young, light?
Rabbitte - missing from panel, injury prone
Chesty - where the hell is he?
Sean Brady - Would he have the pace?
Gaynor - Or maybe not?
McCutheon - Height, pace. I don't know.
edit - Dermot Shierdan - Is he big enough?

Carr will have to try someone else or we'll be in bother come championship.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on February 02, 2009, 08:40:58 AM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on February 02, 2009, 08:31:02 AM

Anton Reilly did ok. Was responsible for a point but thats it. Anyone complaining about him being slow of his line should also remember that it is not exactly James Reillys strong point either. .

It's Fintan that was in goals. 

Yes we all know that Miller can be slow but not letting the ball into the goals is one of his strong points and he would not have let 3 in yesterday.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on February 02, 2009, 08:44:43 AM
Re- Fintan/Anton : Sorry - typing error.

I think you are being harsh on him. 2 goals were punched from inside the small square. One right in off the post and the other with power into the roof of the net. The middle goal he saved the 1st shot and  the rebound was scored. For me he was not at fault. Whether James Reilly would have saved them who knows. Maybe if James was playing FB we might not have conceded either
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on February 02, 2009, 08:48:35 AM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on February 02, 2009, 08:44:43 AM
Re- Fintan/Anton : Sorry - typing error.

I think you are being harsh on him. 2 goals were punched from inside the small square. One right in off the post and the other with power into the roof of the net. The middle goal he saved the 1st shot and  the rebound was scored. For me he was not at fault. Whether James Reilly would have saved them who knows. Maybe if James was playing FB we might not have conceded either

Maybe i am being harsh on him but i expected more from him. I though he would step in comfortable enough and be good cover for Miller.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on February 02, 2009, 10:56:39 AM
I don't know if it's worse just to lose, or to lose after playing well enough to win by a street.

I suppose the former speaks of our defensive frailties against a weakened team while the latter does indicate we at least have something to work with and build on.

It leaves us effectively out of the promotion battle or at the least, with a massive mountain to climb already. We'd probably need to win every game from now to the finish and I can't see that happening seeing as we've played out f**k up card after just one game!

Would love to know what became of Gumley and Tierney.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: LaurelEye on February 02, 2009, 11:53:47 AM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on February 02, 2009, 08:31:02 AMSome positives. First time in a long long time we looked a big team.

Don't get carried away, Myles -  everyone looks big beside Longford... :)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on February 02, 2009, 01:59:31 PM
Disaster of a result despite an unbelievable amount of procession... Have said throughout the McKenna Cup that Podge isn't next or near an average full back and I don't disagree with some of you saying we could accommodate him elsewhere in the team... Why?  He is slow, unfit and carrying a lot of weight, personally I'm not sure he is good enough at all.  If we were to accommodate him, then it would be because of his name and his previous performances a couple of years ago, something which most of us agree shouldn't be happening...

Don't know where all this about Fintan Reilly came from, absolutely nothing he could do about the three goals in fact he made a great save for the second one and nothing he could do about the rebound.


As for Tierney and Gumley, well I'm not too sure about Gumley but I know Tierney is still training with the squad but I believe they aren't gonna rush him into any games for the first half of the league and let him sort out a few small niggly injuries.... I think there is a few in the same boat, Hannon, Sean Brady, big Dermot....  I don't believe Gumley is in that bunch of players, I think it was that he was unfortunate not to make the Match day 24.  If I'm right as well, a few boys were told to go back to their clubs and their performances would be monitored a la Anton Reilly

I think we'll get it hard to get promoted now, barring a few slip ups from a couple of other teams -  hard to know really, I think Limerick are a better team than their result showed yesterday and that Louth will be found out as the fitness levels of other teams catch up to them.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on February 02, 2009, 03:11:23 PM
Fintan Reily was slow across his line for the first goal in my opinion, also was the cause of 1 point.
dont think he could do anything about the other two.
i was disappointed in him, i believed he could be a good number to Miller.
bring back Colm Anderson i say(if hes interested and in the country).

John McCutcheon at full back is an interesting one,
Power,Pace and height. Certainly worth a try. Especially after that half back line was very good yesterday.
Celt Man what do you think?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on February 02, 2009, 03:35:48 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on February 02, 2009, 03:11:23 PM
Fintan Reily was slow across his line for the first goal in my opinion, also was the cause of 1 point.
dont think he could do anything about the other two.
i was disappointed in him, i believed he could be a good number to Miller.
bring back Colm Anderson i say(if hes interested and in the country).

John McCutcheon at full back is an interesting one,
Power,Pace and height. Certainly worth a try. Especially after that half back line was very good yesterday.
Celt Man what do you think?

I didn't think he was slow across the line for the first only that the flick came from so close in, he had so little time to react that's all... 

As for John at full back, to be honest, I think you could play him anywhere... certainly has the physicality and statue for full back and definitely the pace to handle any full forward we have come across so far.  It would be an interesting one alright although still think he would be a better option in the half back line.  Even though they played reasonably well yesterday (taking into account they were rarely put on the back foot), I think John is actually one of the rare defenders who can actually defend....  A lot of the time, when people say a defender has played well, it is because he looked good on the ball going forward... I think a lot of the defenders today not just in Cavan,  think the Dublin backs are chronic for this, try to look good on the ball going forward to cover up their defensive frailties....
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on February 02, 2009, 04:15:41 PM
I don't think we should be too hard on Carr yet. He is probably being advised by the selectors that Podge could be a good full back. It is clear enough to me now Podge doesn't have the mentality for a FB and to be honest his form has been quite poor last year too. I hope Carr sees this now and moves on to plan B. Why not try McCutcheon. He has always impressed me when I've seen him play and as someone said above we are not too bad in the half back line that we couldn't spare a man for FB!
Its a sickener to lose to Longford (I went to Moyne back in the day and just don't like losing to  them) but we haven't dominated a game like that in a long time so its not all bad news. I think if Carr can work on Johnstone, Pearson and some of the half forwards supporting Givney when he wins ball that we'll start to present a goal threat that has been missing for a few years. This team does need some time to develop so lets not be too hard on them yet.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on February 02, 2009, 04:21:51 PM
i had my doubts about givney after the first McKenna Cup game,

but its hard not to be impressed with what he done yesterday, outstanding fielding ability and good balance,took the wrong option a few times,but that will improve as he gets more experience.
his one real weakness is Speed,but he has all the other qualities to do well at Inter county level.
i mentioned it before but that Catch he made in the second half,when he set up a goal chance,where he seemed to have misjudged the flight of the ball,was as good as ive seen.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on February 03, 2009, 12:53:43 PM
Quote from: Celt_Man on February 02, 2009, 03:35:48 PM

John McCutcheon at full back is an interesting one,
Power,Pace and height. Certainly worth a try. Especially after that half back line was very good yesterday.
Celt Man what do you think?

As for John at full back, to be honest, I think you could play him anywhere... certainly has the physicality and statue for full back and definitely the pace to handle any full forward we have come across so far.  It would be an interesting one alright although still think he would be a better option in the half back line. 
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I dont think he will get his place in the half back line, he is a good player but i think that there are better than him in the squad.  He would definately be worth a go at full back i dont think there is anything to lose by giving him a couple of league games there anyway. 

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on February 04, 2009, 05:51:26 PM
I know you might say this should be in the General Discussion, but a bit of fun for anyone in the Ballinagh Area this Friday 6th February.

The Slieve Glah Dramatic society are showing Run for you Wife in the Ballinagh Hall at 8.30.

Members are from Denn, Crosserlough and Lavey so we have a good mix .  We played to sell out crowds in the Ramor Theatre last weekend and everyone had a blast and its a perfect tonic for the doom and gloom we have to go through these days.

Hope anyone in the vicinity can make it.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on February 05, 2009, 12:13:07 PM
I was reading the match report for Longford game on the Celts website (www.anglocelt.ie). Its pretty well written and I think captures my feelings on the game. That is a big change as normally I'd associate the celts reporting to be the same level as Northern Sounds commentary. Have they changed editors or reporters recently?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on February 05, 2009, 01:26:09 PM
Aye Paul Fitzpatrick is the sports editor now and definitely there has been an improvement in the coverage.  He doesn't sit on the fence as much as the last crowd.  I think he is a Redhills man and he was the sports editor for the short lived Celt off-shoot Cavan Life
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on February 05, 2009, 02:50:19 PM
Aha - I believe he once posted here or is that a different redhills man.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on February 05, 2009, 03:02:39 PM
Don't know - either it was before my time or just can't remember
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: LackenLegend on February 05, 2009, 03:03:22 PM
Yeah he's handy enough alright. I read a good one there too. www.anglocelt.ie/articles/2/35752. It gives a fair account of what is happening and the post match analysis.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on February 05, 2009, 03:55:37 PM
I could give his username but that would be akin to outing the man. He wouldn't like that. Last time he was here he was treatening to report me for abusing the legendary stephen king.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on February 05, 2009, 04:13:52 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on February 05, 2009, 03:55:37 PM
I could give his username but that would be akin to outing the man. He wouldn't like that. Last time he was here he was treatening to report me for abusing the legendary stephen king.

Ahh sure there's no need for that... If a man wanted to put his name out here he would... Mind you it wouldn't be too hard to figure out or at least narrow down, who a few boys are, myself included
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on February 05, 2009, 06:50:01 PM
I'd say he is keeping an eye out for our tremendous opinions of the matches and the like even though he hasn't been on here since last in a few months. Are Cavan playing a challenge against Mayo next weekend?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on February 05, 2009, 06:55:18 PM
Ah yes Myles, your scurrious attacks on our former leader those were the days. I remember you being threathened with damnation by a sometimes visitor to the site, did the lad in question and Stephen once scribble for the same sheet (Cavan Echo) which might explain a few things?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on February 05, 2009, 07:02:50 PM
And what about the banishing of the Hollowhead man. I better stop this before it gets out of hand!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on February 05, 2009, 07:40:42 PM
I though everyone here knew who the the Bottom Brick is .
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on February 05, 2009, 07:43:33 PM
Quote from: Celt_Man on February 05, 2009, 04:13:52 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on February 05, 2009, 03:55:37 PM
I could give his username but that would be akin to outing the man. He wouldn't like that. Last time he was here he was treatening to report me for abusing the legendary stephen king.

Ahh sure there's no need for that... If a man wanted to put his name out here he would... Mind you it wouldn't be too hard to figure out or at least narrow down, who a few boys are, myself included

Ive been trying to do that since you starting posting!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on February 05, 2009, 09:07:24 PM
Quote from: cavan4ever on February 05, 2009, 07:40:42 PM
I though everyone here knew who the the Bottom Brick is .

So much for not "outing" the man! He might out you in next weeks Celt :D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on February 05, 2009, 09:19:49 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on February 05, 2009, 09:07:24 PM
Quote from: cavan4ever on February 05, 2009, 07:40:42 PM
I though everyone here knew who the the Bottom Brick is .

So much for not "outing" the man! He might out you in next weeks Celt :D

Im safe enough i think another poster "outed" him months ago.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on February 06, 2009, 12:08:50 AM
think that poster was me  :D
doubt Brick cares,he hasnt posted in nearly a year,anyway hes one of the
as for guessing the identities of posters here,
i only know who Boojangles is,Nobody else.
Be Careful lads, or some of ye might be getting a few slaps outside the imperial for something ya post.  ;D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on February 06, 2009, 12:21:36 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on February 06, 2009, 12:08:50 AM
think that poster was me  :D
doubt Brick cares,he hasnt posted in nearly a year,anyway hes one of the
as for guessing the identities of posters here,
i only know who Boojangles is,Nobody else.
Be Careful lads, or some of ye might be getting a few slaps outside the imperial for something ya post.  ;D


I think if the identities of the posters became common knowledge it's a life ban from the Imperial rather than a few slaps outside it is what would be the order of the day by now.............................

Had an interesting conversation with a work colleague this morning whose son is involved in the Tipperary football panel (our next game I think). "So it's route one into the full forward line with you lot then" was the jist of what he had to say, not surprising really. We might cope with that approach from Tipp but we need to have something a bit more sorted by the time Down are taking route one into Benny and co. Think Mark McKeever or whoever ends up in our half forward line could be spending a lot of time in the space between our  numbers 3 and 6.

Couldn't agree more with the poster who made the point about needing defenders who can actually defend as opposed to being good when they get the ball in hand, on that basis maybe McCutcheon is worth a look in the Full back line. Anybody know what the situation is with M Hannon-injured or travelling or what. Have a lot of time for him and think he was hung out to dry a bit in the championship over the past two years.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on February 06, 2009, 01:05:18 PM
I think if the identities of the posters became common knowledge it's a life ban from the Imperial rather than a few slaps outside it is what would be the order of the day

Couldn't agree more with the poster who made the point about needing defenders who can actually defend as opposed to being good when they get the ball in hand, on that basis maybe McCutcheon is worth a look in the Full back line. Anybody know what the situation is with M Hannon-injured or travelling or what. Have a lot of time for him and think he was hung out to dry a bit in the championship over the past two years.
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Twas myself.... Hannon had a big operation on his groin around Christmas time and I think is able to start joggin again in the next couple of weeks.  I believe he is another of the likely lads whose form will be monitored by the county set up.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: descartes on February 06, 2009, 11:16:53 PM
QuoteHannon had a big operation on his groin around Christmas time and I think is able to start jogging again in the next couple of weeks.  I believe he is another of the likely lads whose form will be monitored by the county set up.

i believe it was actually his second operation in a year, someone close to the panel told me he's been in trouble with his groin for the last 2 years, apparently he wasn't really able to train last year at all, and only played the games at the weekends. I heard he'd failed a few times trying to come back from this latest operation, but that things have been going better for him these past few weeks. Even still, despite his injury trouble i thought himself and Dermot Sheridan were excellent against kildare last year in the championshp, only to be badly let down by the half back line, and an out of sorts midfield (that is untill walsh came on, and flanagan moved back in the 2nd half.) Would like to see these two in there again at some stage this year, partnerships and a good understanding among colleagues can be just as important as individual talent when it comes to getting a solid functioning fullback line.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on February 07, 2009, 09:10:10 PM
Got the result from a friend in Mayo. It was in Ballinrobe and Mayo won 2-13 to 2-09. Didn't get much time to chat to my friend but he told me Walsh and Galligan played in the middle, Podge FB and Larry and Jason in the FF line. Cavan started well but Mayo got ahead by a goal coming to half time by a goal. Sorry have no other info.

Welcome to the board RednBlack.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: the salmon of knowledge on February 09, 2009, 08:03:28 PM
hello all,
first post on this site so good to be here... a certain other site gets a bit tedious when you have to sift through so many threads to find any proper football conversations.
still playing ball myself(just about!) with my local club, a junior A side, so that and the county side is what i am interested in discussing.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on February 09, 2009, 09:45:19 PM
Welcome aboard Salmon, and Rednblack, refugees welcome as long as the riff raff stay where they are!

We must have one of the biggest contingents on the board now, outside of Tyrone, Armagh posters anyway.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on February 09, 2009, 09:46:56 PM
Welcome tsok and hope you find the site worthwhile and enjoyable.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on February 09, 2009, 09:53:18 PM
Well lads another newcomer on board. Was tellin a friend of mine I was running out of patience with a popular website named after a section of Croke Park and he suggested this one. Far too much rubbish on the other one and pointless topics.

Was wondering if anyone heard about the Mayo game at the weekend. I know both the senior and U21 panel played games. Any news on either of them?

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on February 09, 2009, 10:03:41 PM
Quote from: put-it-up on February 09, 2009, 09:53:18 PM
Well lads another newcomer on board. Was tellin a friend of mine I was running out of patience with a popular website named after a section of Croke Park and he suggested this one. Far too much rubbish on the other one and pointless topics.


Welcome to all the new members. 

What clubs are you all from if you dont mind telling?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Owenmoresider on February 09, 2009, 10:07:47 PM
Quote from: cavanmaniac on February 09, 2009, 09:45:19 PM
Welcome aboard Salmon, and Rednblack, refugees welcome as long as the riff raff stay where they are!

We must have one of the biggest contingents on the board now, outside of Tyrone, Armagh posters anyway.
Hard to know on that, the club threads from the Ulster counties are quite large, so Derry and Down could be added to those two too. And then there's Mayo... :-X

When's the club action starting over there? We're under way next weekend, as are Roscommon, and Leitrim the week after next.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on February 09, 2009, 10:09:06 PM
Hot off the press - Club Championship draws...

Junior

Group one:
M'connacht
Shercock
Cavan Gaels
Swad

Group 2:
Arva
Maghera
Shannon Gaels

Group 3:
Corlough
Cornafern
Mountnugent

Group 4:
B'Bridge
Killdallon
Templeport

Inter:

G 1:
Drumalee
Lavey
Ballyhaise
Killeshandra

G2:
Ballymachugh
Drumgoon
Bailieboro
Drung

G3:
Laragh
Kilinkere
Kill

G4:
Knockbride
Drumlane
Cootehill

Senior:

3 amalgamations:  
Drumbride: Goonies and Knockbride
West Cavan Gaels: Shannon Gaels, Corlough, templeport and kildallon
Blackwater Gaels: Maghera and M'connacht

Drumbride play WCG and winners go into senior champo proper, losers play Blackwater gaels and winner of that then goes into senior champo

G1:
Redhills
winner of Drumbride/WCG
Belturbet
winner of Blackwater gaels v loser of Drumbride/WCG

G2:
Gowna
Cuchullainns
Castlerahan
Ramor

G3:
Mullahorn
Cavan Gaels
C'lough
Ballinagh

G4:
Killygarry
Denn
Lacken
Kingscourt

Round 1: 1 v 2; 3 v 4
Round 2: 1 v 3; 2 v 4
Round 3: 1 v 4; 2 v 3

First round of games take place weekend after cavan play in Ulster with the redhills v winner of Drumbride/WCG and Belturbet v winner of Blackwater gaels v loser of Drumbride/WCG games on the Wednesday to give Amalgamated teams a chance to recover....
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on February 09, 2009, 10:16:16 PM
G1 in intermediate looks nasty. Drumalee, Ballyhaise, Killeshandra & Lavey. There'll be fun on here Boojangles and BHM!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on February 09, 2009, 10:20:37 PM
Aye ourselves, Knockbride and Drumlane - not too much room for messing up there either....
All the groups in the senior champo look competitive too
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on February 10, 2009, 01:53:45 AM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on February 09, 2009, 10:16:16 PM
G1 in intermediate looks nasty. Drumalee, Ballyhaise, Killeshandra & Lavey. There'll be fun on here Boojangles and BHM!

jesus
3 contenders for the title
Drumalee
ourselves and Lavey

and an ever improving young Slasher team who i believe are going to be intermediate champions within the next 5 years.

a couple of good teams are going to lose out.

Its going to be exciting,thats for sure.

Group 3 in the senior will be tasty:
Mullahoran
Cavan Gaels
C'lough
Ballinagh



Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on February 10, 2009, 09:38:59 AM
3 amalgamations: 
Drumbride: Goonies and Knockbride
West Cavan Gaels: Shannon Gaels, Corlough, templeport and kildallon
Blackwater Gaels: Maghera and M'connacht

What you think of the amalgamations?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on February 10, 2009, 10:53:01 AM
QuoteGroup 3
Mullahoran, Cavan Gaels, Crosserlough, Ballinagh

Lord have mercy!

I see the teams involved in amalgamations are also playing individually in the intermediate / junior. I dunno how well this will work out and could potentially throw up some fixture headaches more than anything. Drumbride could be a strong outfit if both houses are in order I don't know about the other two.

Welcome to the board RednBlack, Salmon and Put-it-up
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: LackenLegend on February 10, 2009, 01:04:07 PM
Well RednBlack and Denn Forever what do ye think of our group for the championship? It may throw up the best games as no team is much better than another.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on February 10, 2009, 01:59:30 PM
Quote from: RednBlack on February 10, 2009, 01:14:21 PM
Group 4 could throw up any two teams. Everyone of them will fancy beating the other on any given day. I was surprised they didn't put the four semi finalists from last year into the four groups as seeds and then do the draw. The Gaels, Mullahoran, Crosserlough, Ballinagh group will be a battle royale and at least two of them would really fancy their chances of winning it out. Speaking of Ballinagh I heard from someone at the game in Mayo that Podge did well at FB and that Mayo had a good strong team. I would expect to see him there again on Sunday. Conditions were supposed to be dreadful and freezing. Makes you wonder what benefits a team gets from games on nights like that cos I know a number of the players are now dosed with the flu. And we need to beat Tipperary!!!!

I asked my man from Mayo that was at the game how our FB did. He said it was hard to judge! Mayo seemingly had a strong enough outfit out but not sure who Cavan had. Surely we have enough to beat Tipp anyhow.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on February 10, 2009, 02:15:57 PM
How many go from each group or is it like last season?

Thank god we are not in the group of death.  Any of the teams there would grace any semi/final.

As for our group, I wouldn't be so hopeful of good games and there is the sleeping giant of Kingscourt.  Although Denn/Killygarry will be illuminating.  We need to win as I don't know how we'd do in the qualifiers.

Will Setanta be in for coverage of the games in Group 1 of the seniior championship?  Looking at it there will be some ding-dong games there! 

Are CG in line to equal Crosserlough's seven in a row?  Maybe it will be seven in a decade?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: glens abu on February 10, 2009, 02:38:13 PM
I played football at school many years ago with a Cavan footballer Donal Meade and heard last year that he had passed away would anyone on this site be able to confirm this and be able to give me any information about him.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: LackenLegend on February 10, 2009, 02:40:15 PM
In Group 1 i would think that Drumbride would make the group and themselves and Belturbet might get through although you cannot rule out Redhills. In my opinion Group 2 is the toughest. I would think it will be Gowna and Cuchullains to go through. Group 3 seems straight-forward enough for me with Cavan Gaels and Mullahoran to proceed. Group 4 is tough to gauge but ill be optimistic and say Lacken and Kingscourt to go through. Sorry lads, i will probably be proven wrong yet.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on February 10, 2009, 03:06:37 PM
Quote from: Denn Forever on February 10, 2009, 02:15:57 PM

Are CG in line to equal Crosserlough's seven in a row?  Maybe it will be seven in a decade?

Mullahoran won the Championship in 2006 I think, but they have won six this decade. 
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on February 10, 2009, 03:15:02 PM
Quote from: glens abu on February 10, 2009, 02:38:13 PM
I played football at school many years ago with a Cavan footballer Donal Meade and heard last year that he had passed away would anyone on this site be able to confirm this and be able to give me any information about him.

I don't know the lad. Do you remember where he was from?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: glens abu on February 10, 2009, 03:20:30 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on February 10, 2009, 03:15:02 PM
Quote from: glens abu on February 10, 2009, 02:38:13 PM
I played football at school many years ago with a Cavan footballer Donal Meade and heard last year that he had passed away would anyone on this site be able to confirm this and be able to give me any information about him.

I don't know the lad. Do you remember where he was from?

no as far as I know he went on to represent Cavan,in the early 70's
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on February 10, 2009, 03:21:25 PM
Quote from: LackenLegend on February 10, 2009, 02:40:15 PM
In Group 1 i would think that Drumbride would make the group and themselves and Belturbet might get through although you cannot rule out Redhills. In my opinion Group 2 is the toughest. I would think it will be Gowna and Cuchullains to go through. Group 3 seems straight-forward enough for me with Cavan Gaels and Mullahoran to proceed. Group 4 is tough to gauge but ill be optimistic and say Lacken and Kingscourt to go through. Sorry lads, i will probably be proven wrong yet.

disagree about group 3,
it all depends for me exactly how many players ballinagh are missing due to emigration,specifically to Oz,
If they had a full time id fancy them to knock Mullahoran out.
Crosserlough can be great on their day and be atrocious aswell.
Gaels to go through,and any one of the other 3.

Lads weigh in with your top 15 players from Cavan,on the thread on the main discussion board.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tierworker blue on February 10, 2009, 03:43:08 PM
Quote from: glens abu on February 10, 2009, 03:20:30 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on February 10, 2009, 03:15:02 PM
Quote from: glens abu on February 10, 2009, 02:38:13 PM
I played football at school many years ago with a Cavan footballer Donal Meade and heard last year that he had passed away would anyone on this site be able to confirm this and be able to give me any information about him.

I don't know the lad. Do you remember where he was from?

no as far as I know he went on to represent Cavan,in the early 70's

I don't have any direct connection, so I'm not 100% sure, but as far as I know he passed away last year some time.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on February 10, 2009, 04:42:55 PM
Quote from: tierworker blue on February 10, 2009, 03:43:08 PM
Quote from: glens abu on February 10, 2009, 03:20:30 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on February 10, 2009, 03:15:02 PM
Quote from: glens abu on February 10, 2009, 02:38:13 PM
I played football at school many years ago with a Cavan footballer Donal Meade and heard last year that he had passed away would anyone on this site be able to confirm this and be able to give me any information about him.

I don't know the lad. Do you remember where he was from?

no as far as I know he went on to represent Cavan,in the early 70's

I don't have any direct connection, so I'm not 100% sure, but as far as I know he passed away last year some time.

Don't know much about him but found this http://www.rip.ie/death_notices_detail.asp?NoticeID=54096
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: the salmon of knowledge on February 10, 2009, 04:46:51 PM
for the record i am a mountnugent man.

championship draw with all respect looks ok for us anyway, well if you can believe the reports that corlough have lost up to 7 players due to immigration... its championship though, so nothing can be taken for granted. its sad to see a club that doesnt have huge numbers anyway to take such a crippling blow.
could anyone shed more light on their clubs around the county in relation to this matter?

according to reports cavan played quite well in mayo, mackey got 1-2 and jayo weighed in with 1-1. but the real talking points came later on in the night, when certain members of the panel were noted for their boxing skills as much as their ball skills!!

on another note, didn anyone read the piece in the cavan post titled "blue is the colour", jesus that fella shoots from the hip!!! say he is off larrys xmas card list ;)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: glens abu on February 10, 2009, 04:53:00 PM
Quote from: Homer on February 10, 2009, 04:42:55 PM
Quote from: tierworker blue on February 10, 2009, 03:43:08 PM
Quote from: glens abu on February 10, 2009, 03:20:30 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on February 10, 2009, 03:15:02 PM
Quote from: glens abu on February 10, 2009, 02:38:13 PM
I played football at school many years ago with a Cavan footballer Donal Meade and heard last year that he had passed away would anyone on this site be able to confirm this and be able to give me any information about him.

I don't know the lad. Do you remember where he was from?

no as far as I know he went on to represent Cavan,in the early 70's

I don't have any direct connection, so I'm not 100% sure, but as far as I know he passed away last year some time.

Don't know much about him but found this http://www.rip.ie/death_notices_detail.asp?NoticeID=54096

many thanks lads
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on February 10, 2009, 04:54:04 PM
il ask the auld boy about him at the weekend glens abu, He followed Cavan everywhere during the 60's and 70's.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: glens abu on February 10, 2009, 05:03:36 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on February 10, 2009, 04:54:04 PM
il ask the auld boy about him at the weekend glens abu, He followed Cavan everywhere during the 60's and 70's.

thanks Ballyhaise would appreciate that.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Drung on February 10, 2009, 05:46:36 PM
Donal Meade was a Cuchullains and Cavan footballer of the 70s, I remember him well, a classy player in midfield or attack.

He died last September and is buried in Raffoney cemetery near Cross.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: glens abu on February 10, 2009, 05:56:52 PM
Quote from: Drung on February 10, 2009, 05:46:36 PM
Donal Meade was a Cuchullains and Cavan footballer of the 70s, I remember him well, a classy player in midfield or attack.

He died last September and is buried in Raffoney cemetery near Cross.



M.any thanks Drunk I rem him from school days and he sure was a class footballer then,I see on the death notice he died tragically in England
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on February 10, 2009, 08:00:55 PM
I remember seeing Donal Meade in Action on quite a few sunny days in Clones during the early/mid 70's. Played for Cross/Cuchulainns. As I recall played half-forward/Midfield and was well worth his place. Fairly sure he was involved in Ulster Final Against Derry in 75 or 76 which we lost after a replay. For some reason or other I think he was either lost to England or else used to commute home from England for matches, which wasn't totally unhdeard of at the time.

wouldn't bet my house on all of the above, the years plays tricks on the mind.

RIP and thanks for the good days.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Swadman on February 10, 2009, 09:41:56 PM
Quotereports that corlough have lost up to 7 players due to immigration... its championship though, so nothing can be taken for granted. its sad to see a club that doesnt have huge numbers anyway to take such a crippling blow.
Hi Guys, I'm back from hibernation mode now that most of the snow has melted off Cuilcagh. I don't think my neighbours' plight is as bad as the rumour suggests. They may be trying to lull you into "over-cocky" mode, Salmon of K. You were lucky you missed group 1.  :o
FYI: I am fairly sure that 2 teams go through from each group, so in a group of 3 there is the possibility of play-offs and therefore further fixture delays.
Let's pray for a dry summer.
Myles, you got the Death Group too but Co. Board has decided that there won't be any relegation from Intermediate or Senior for 2 years.  So no pressure, enjoy the experience and build on it.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: gortnaleck on February 11, 2009, 01:54:49 AM
Donal passed away last year alright.I think he went to secondary school up north some where.As far as I know he was related to the Morgans who played for Cavan in the 40s. In Cavan he played with Cuchullains(sp).He lined out for Cavan in the 70s and would have been a wing half back in the Ulster Final of 1978 which Cavan lost to Down. He was a good lad RIP
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on February 11, 2009, 01:07:28 PM
Quote from: RednBlack on February 11, 2009, 12:34:41 PM
Heard Mark McKeever got kicked off the panel. Anyone else hear this? Supposed to do with a day on the razz wearing County gear last weekend!!

Hope not but wouldnt suprise me.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on February 11, 2009, 01:31:00 PM
Quote from: RednBlack on February 11, 2009, 12:34:41 PM
Heard Mark McKeever got kicked off the panel. Anyone else hear this? Supposed to do with a day on the razz wearing County gear last weekend!!
Any idea how reliable this rumour is RednBlack? I agee with C4E. Given both McKeever's history and that of Carr I wouldn't be surprised. If it's true (and I hope it's not) the silver lining might be the message sent to anybody else interested in it. I'm going to be optimistic and assume it's untrue for the minute.

Very interesting championship draws. A couple of questions for any of ye that might fill me in. What happens if one of the amalgamted teams gets relegated from senior. Will they play intermediate next year and would they be obliged to compete or could the amalgamation be scrapped if they so wished?

Also, is one of the amalgamtions Maghear/Muinterconnaught or Magher/Mountnugent? I wouldn't have thought either of these combined would be fit for senior level (no offence SOK).
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on February 11, 2009, 01:40:12 PM
Swadman mentioned it above but I had heard from a few others that there will be no relegation invloved in both Senior and Intermediate this year (Swadman also includes next year).
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on February 11, 2009, 01:44:15 PM
Quote from: Lawrence of Knockbride on February 11, 2009, 01:31:00 PM

Very interesting championship draws. A couple of questions for any of ye that might fill me in. What happens if one of the amalgamted teams gets relegated from senior. Will they play intermediate next year and would they be obliged to compete or could the amalgamation be scrapped if they so wished?

Also, is one of the amalgamtions Maghear/Muinterconnaught or Magher/Mountnugent? I wouldn't have thought either of these combined would be fit for senior level (no offence SOK).



Maghera/Munterconnaught wouldn't be fit for intermediate IMHO and  the West Cavan Clubs i dont know if they would be fit for senior.  
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on February 11, 2009, 01:54:37 PM
If McKeever was acting the bollox then he deserves to be given the boot. This year we got rid of Keoghan, got a decent manager and are trying to rebuild. It should have been a clean sheet for every player. It is very dissapointing if a player of McKeevers talents threw that away to go on the rip.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on February 11, 2009, 02:47:20 PM
Yea there is on relegation in senior or intermediate this year or next year. This will bring the number of teams up to 16 in both grades- handier for the 4 groups of 4 scenario.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on February 11, 2009, 02:48:46 PM
If it's true re: McKeever, it's a shame because he's a good player, but if he deserved it, then I applaud it.

We've carried too many slackers and wasters in the past to the long-term detriment of our prospects of ever getting back to some sort of respectability, and it has to stop if we are to have any sort of a foundation on which to build. Carr said as much in his first week about commitment and discipline, he flagged it up for all to see and he's now (if it's true) showing that he's consistent and not to be messed with in this regard. Hard decisions have to be taken and a line drawn in the sand on the sorry debacles of years past.

I'm not writing McKeever's epitaph prematurely here, I'm more making a general point.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on February 11, 2009, 02:53:39 PM
Right ladsIf its true will he be that much of a miss?

Has he performed to the levels of his early years in the past 2-3 years?

There is no doubt he would be a miss but i dont know if it that big.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Drung on February 11, 2009, 03:00:39 PM
He's no loss. He hasn't played a good game for Cavan since 2004, mainly because he hasn't dedicated himself to the cause for any manager bar Coleman. By the way, he wasn't the only Cavan player on the beer last Sunday!
I drove through Cavan Town and saw five players heading into the Imperial - how did I spot them? Every one was wearing Cavan gear and they were all full!
Also, one was singing and two were wrestling! My pasenger said to me "only in Cavan" and I had to agree.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Drung on February 11, 2009, 03:01:49 PM
Cavan Town was like a ghost town by the way, which made the Party Boys all the more noticeable.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on February 11, 2009, 04:14:45 PM
I suppose in truth lads we don't know the full story so all this is speculation. But surely Carr must have a reason for putting McKeever of the panel - why else would he do it?
I was told once (don't know if its true) that the tyrone players are made fold up their jerseys and treat it with the utmost respect after games/training. I can buy into that as respect should be shown to your teams colours. When you wear the county gear you have an obligation to have a bit of manners. Falling around the street would not be acceptable to me if I were Cavan manager. A few pint in February would be ok but getting hammered definetely not. If thats harsh well I'm sure there'd be another lad willing to make that life choice and join the panel. No one is forced to play football after all.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on February 11, 2009, 04:40:13 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on February 11, 2009, 04:14:45 PM
I suppose in truth lads we don't know the full story so all this is speculation. But surely Carr must have a reason for putting McKeever of the panel - why else would he do it?
I was told once (don't know if its true) that the tyrone players are made fold up their jerseys and treat it with the utmost respect after games/training. I can buy into that as respect should be shown to your teams colours. When you wear the county gear you have an obligation to have a bit of manners. Falling around the street would not be acceptable to me if I were Cavan manager. A few pint in February would be ok but getting hammered definetely not. If thats harsh well I'm sure there'd be another lad willing to make that life choice and join the panel. No one is forced to play football after all.

I agree with that Myles.  The players have to decide what they want and im sure they all said at the start of the year that they would follow whatever rules tommy set out for them or else they wouldn't be on the panel.  It not the first time this player has been dropped for similar either, but if their were other players "singing" and "wrestliing" around the streets on a Sunday night how can 1 player be singled out?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on February 11, 2009, 05:11:17 PM
wasnt McKeever dropped last year aswell for the same reason? then he returned to the panel later.
It might be different this year though.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tierworker blue on February 11, 2009, 06:44:17 PM
If this is true (again, stressing the 'if'...) then it is unacceptable behaviour and Carr has made the right decision.
I have no problem with a lad enjoying himself at all, and I'm quite partial to a few pints and a bit of buckleppin' myself, but there must be pride in the jersey above all in my opinion. Falling around Cavan town in a beered up state in county gear just is'nt good enough. It's that kind of thing that must be purged from the county set up completely if we are ever going to find our way out of the doldrums...we've seen it way too often.
I'm happy that Carr does'nt seem willing to pander to lads who are given an inch and take a mile. A solid foundation for the future cannot be built on that kind of eegitin'.
Myles mentioned about the Tyrone lads having to fold the jerseys and such and whilst I don't like comparing ourselves to other counties, I believe this is the respect that is due to the colours.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on February 11, 2009, 10:21:27 PM
actin the bollix by members of the Cavan panel Act 6.0.

Eamon Coleman RIP had a benevolent enough attitude towards it, Marty McIlkennon tried to control it but failed (witness his last year in charge, the team he put out in the first round of the championship featured one of the most crippled forward lines ever seen as I recall), Donal Keogan, well,....................................., so the test was always going to be very soon coming to Tommy.

Now it's an amateur sport and it's the Month of February but if it's true that fellas are falling around the place in their County gear, how much more of a direct challenge to a new managers authority can you have.

Entering the Imperial-were they so shitfaced as to forget who is in charge??

If it's in any way true it's time to act Tommy
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on February 12, 2009, 09:37:30 PM
Looks like I am going to miss the game on Sunday. Have a club match myself in my adoped team. Could some kind board member post a report please?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on February 12, 2009, 10:34:27 PM
No bother myles, il have one u by 6pm on sunday evening

Yes i have no life outside football   :'(
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on February 13, 2009, 12:33:19 PM
Quote from: RednBlack on February 13, 2009, 11:05:02 AM
Good chance James Reilly back between the posts on Sunday. Will be interested to see if the onion sack billows as much as recent games!!!

He might need a bit of training first as he will be a bit rusty after a long lay off but its a must win game so i wouldnt be suprised to see him play.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: descartes on February 14, 2009, 10:43:22 AM
QuotePosted by: RednBlack

Cavan vs Tipperary - F Reilly, M Brides, P Reilly, M Hannon, M Cahill, P Brady, J Crowe, C Galligan, N Walsh, E Reilly, R Flanagan, C Mackey, M Reilly, D Givney, G Pierson

wher'd you get that team from?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on February 14, 2009, 01:44:51 PM
Good man rednblack. you seem to have the inside line on the county set-up. Looks like you were right about McKeever. Carr seems to be still trying new things. Flanagan at Ctr Forwrd and Paul Brady to Ctr Back. No sign of Cullivan - perhaps he is injured. He still seems to be persevering with Podge at FB. Still no Johnstone in the team. Will be interesting to see how we get on. Tipp might not be that bad and I expect, if they have done the basic homework, that they'll pump loads of high ball at their FF.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on February 14, 2009, 03:18:37 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on February 14, 2009, 01:44:51 PM
Good man rednblack. you seem to have the inside line on the county set-up. Looks like you were right about McKeever. Carr seems to be still trying new things. Flanagan at Ctr Forwrd and Paul Brady to Ctr Back. No sign of Cullivan - perhaps he is injured. He still seems to be persevering with Podge at FB. Still no Johnstone in the team. Will be interesting to see how we get on. Tipp might not be that bad and I expect, if they have done the basic homework, that they'll pump loads of high ball at their FF.

I'd imagine they'd be told to pump lots of low balls at our full forward as he would have time to waken up when it's in the air if they were hight.

I see miller & fintan's cousin is getting married today. I wonder who'll be spiking whose drink
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on February 14, 2009, 07:22:46 PM
Been away for a few weeks,havent been at any Cavan games this year at all so Im not going to comment too much.Very dissapointed that our man Enda McCormack didnt make the cut,for a lad who seemed to be progressing well but I suppose some things never change in this county.Some lads find it harder to get off the Cavan panel than they do getting on it.A name means more in Cavan than footballing ability.
Just heard that Paddy Gumley is gonna be out of football for a number of months.He was concussed or something at a training lately but they sent him to the Doctors just to be cautious,it turns out he was very lucky and that there may be a heart problem or something.Very sad news for a lad who had done so well to get in there.I wish Paddy a full recovery.
Red n Black makes a very good but obvious point about Coaching in this county.I made a similiar point on the board a number of months ago about the lack of good coaches or people willing to give their time to clubs any more.The proof of the pudding has been in Terry Coyle park every Saturday morning for the last 20 years.Cavan Gaels with the enormous effort of the Reilly brothers and numerous other volunteers dedicated themselves to coaching week in week out for the last 20 years.They thought young lads how to be winners and they have been reaping the rewards ever since.6 County Champioships in this decade alone tells its own tale.No other club in the county has sustained the level of Underage success like the Gaels and it shows at Senior level.
As for the Championship draw,well nothing like a good tough Group to get the head focused.We will be lucky to win a game in that group!!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on February 14, 2009, 08:28:30 PM
Welcome back boojangles.  Im afraid Enda McCormack wasnt up to the standard in the 2 games that i saw and i dont think it was a big suprise that he was cut from the panel.  Yeah heard that about Gumley hopefully he will make a full recovery.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on February 14, 2009, 10:25:09 PM
Quote from: cavan4ever on February 14, 2009, 08:28:30 PM
Welcome back boojangles.  Im afraid Enda McCormack wasnt up to the standard in the 2 games that i saw and i dont think it was a big suprise that he was cut from the panel.  Yeah heard that about Gumley hopefully he will make a full recovery.
More than a little harsh on McCormack C4E IMO. Maybe it was because he was beside Podge but I thought he did ok. Especially when you see the number 3 unchanged. Sad to hear about Gumly. I suppose if he's ok and healthy it's a good thing it was spotted on time but at least it explains his absence after a decent spell with the county. Here hopes all works out for him.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on February 15, 2009, 12:02:56 PM
Quote from: REDCOL on February 15, 2009, 10:50:34 AM
He got gate on Friday night, he iis not in the country today

Holy Fu*k. Carr is that pissed with him that he banned him from the country. This man must wield unreal power :D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on February 15, 2009, 01:31:08 PM
As I said I wasnt at any of the games but I know for certain that McCormack couldnt have been any worse than at least 2 or 3 other backs who will be playing today.There is more future in trying to bring on a lad who is 22 and give him plenty of games than trying and trying with a lad who is 27/28 who has got numerous chances with the County but hasnt played well since 2002 IMO.But anyway I dont wanna start a personal slagging match or an argument but thats my opinion.There were alot of lads who could have got the chop that werent playing well but their reputations kept them there.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Drung on February 15, 2009, 01:35:10 PM
QuoteI wasnt at any of the games... There were alot of lads who could have got the chop that werent playing well

How do you know?

McCormack's man, Ciaran Close, scored 0-5 from play in Belfast. That was the game which lost him his place. Good lad and good club player but county player? No.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on February 15, 2009, 01:37:59 PM
Quote from: boojangles on February 15, 2009, 01:31:08 PM
As I said I wasnt at any of the games but I know for certain that McCormack couldnt have been any worse than at least 2 or 3 other backs who will be playing today.There is more future in trying to bring on a lad who is 22 and give him plenty of games than trying and trying with a lad who is 27/28 who has got numerous chances with the County but hasnt played well since 2002 IMO.But anyway I dont wanna start a personal slagging match or an argument but thats my opinion.There were alot of lads who could have got the chop that werent playing well but their reputations kept them there.

I know he is a good player but he did himself no favours againsts Queens but with match day panels of 24 lads are going to be giving much time to prove themselves. So it looks like Galligan and Walsh in Midfield for the year now with Mulvey rumoured to be gone, it will be interesting to see what will happen if either get injured.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on February 15, 2009, 04:50:30 PM
 >:(  >:(  >:(  >:(

Cavan 0-11 Tipperary 0-13
that was fuckin disgraceful, Even Donal Keoghan didnt lose to Hurling counties.Tommy Carr should f**k off back to dublin if thats the best he  can do,

1.Fintan Reily
done nothing wrong,varied kickouts well in second half. 7

2,Michael Brides
One of Cavans better players, got some key blocks and deflections in. 7

3.Pauric Reily
wasnt great,dragged out and didnt impact the game much. 6

4.Keith Fannin,
Like Brides, had to defend alot of space,fouled a few times,but wasnt the worst. 6

5.Martin Cahill,
done ok,legs went near the end,was probably one of the better players in an atrocious performance. 7

6.Ronan Flanagan
thought he was very poor,distribution was poor,nearly got a few players killed by poor passing,
Number 11 Philip Austin for Tipp roasted him and was Tipp's main man from open play. 5

7.Johnny Crowe,
decent, wasnt really bad or good,needs to get quicker and lighter if he is to have afuture at IC level. 6

8.Nicholas Walsh,
caught 2 or 3 clean, didnt have a bad game,put himself about,but had no support what so ever though. 7

9.Ciaran Galligan, im a big fan,but he was very poor today, he didnt seem to be jumping at all(injury)didnt impact the game whatsoever,change could have came quicker,replaced by Lyng. 5

10.Eddie Reily
scored 0-1,works hard,but hes missing that bit of class and composure for IC level,not accurate enough. 5

11.Ray Cullivan
got on alot of ball,but delivery was poor,didnt win any ball in the air eitherand dropped a few short, 5

12.Martin Reily,
kicked a few frees,but his man, No. 7 Brian Fox, ran forward at will scoring 2 or 3 from play, 5

13.Sean Johnston,
Very poor,dropped ball after ball short and just never got going. 5

14.David Givney,
He has talent,but he has absolutely no pace whatsoever,beaten 4 or 5 times after getting a 5 yard headstart,caught 3 times for overcarrying aswell,he wont be a serious option this year im afraid. 4

15.Gerard Pierson
Cavans best player,
always showing,battling,kicked couple from play and very accurate from frees. 7

subs
Michael Lyng
Dermot Sheridan(yellow carded) then replaced by John McCutcheon
Cian Mackey(scored aterrific point from play)

One again like after the Waterford game, we are the laughing stock of the whole Country.
Relegation seems certain, as if we cant beat Longford or Tipp,
we arent going to beat Limerick,Louth or Down..
Thank God Club football is starting back soon.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on February 15, 2009, 04:53:21 PM
Quote from: REDCOL on February 15, 2009, 04:35:34 PM
I never thought I would say it, but our new manager is a joke. Still playing Podge FB and this result is right up there with the Waterford debacle.


Bit insulting to Waterford, very insulting to Tipp and showing an unwillingness to recognise where we are at as a county, I.e. number 8 in Ulster at best and things may have to get worse before they get better-i.e. number of guys at the stalwart level all but finished-McCabe, Forde, Larry, Jason. trying to pick up the pieces after a two year joke of a management regime (the McKeever incident could be seen as one of the leftovers of the previous regime). Two weeks break now, Sigerson will be well and truly finished by next game, achievement at this stage will be to stay in Division 3. We have two of to so-called winnable games played and lost, division 4 is possibility and potentially disasterous.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on February 15, 2009, 05:04:32 PM
AC
even Donal Keogan with Paul Grimley/Julie Davis on board,beat teams like Tipp and Longford well in his first year to get us promotion,
This was diabolical.
We dont have the best players in Ulster or Ireland,
But we have the players to be contesting for promotion in this division,
Losing to a patched up Longford and Tipp(at home!) is unacceptable,
If Carr had any pride, he would walk after that.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on February 15, 2009, 05:21:47 PM
RednBlack
Re:Your comment about the fundamentals(picking the ball up)

the likes of Jelly,Mickey Lyng,Cullivan Ronan Flanagan and co have spent as many hours on the training field practising the skills of catching,kicking,shooting,picking the ball up all their lives as the Sean Cavanaghs and Gooch Coopers of this island.
players will make mistakes,falling over the ball when trying to pick it up which happened,Martin Cahill and Johnny Crowe a couple of times today.
my disgust with today was,that Cavan didnt know what to do when they were down,No ideas, when Tipp dropped two men back,Kicking the ball straight to the spare man, or launching it in high when our forwards were outnumbered 5-2.
Tipp just ran the ball on the overlap in wave after wave,they always seemed to have a free man running into space at speed every time.
The Players arent completely blameless,But that team today looked to have no direction,co-ordination or planning,
Tipp were a far better coached team,with an actual game plan of running the ball at speed.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Onlooker on February 15, 2009, 05:28:08 PM
That was a very sweet win today for a young Tipperary team that is largely based on the Under 21 teams of 2007 and 2008 that pushed the eventual All Ireland Champions Cork and Kerry all the way in two Munster Finals.  I am not one for gloating but the references to losing to hurling counties I find quite insulting and condescending.  Hurling is the No. 1 sport in Tipperary, but there are a lot of footballers in the county as well and I am proud of the players that pulled off that win today.  This win gives us a chance of keeping our place in Div. 3.  It will be a struggle, but we have a realistic chance of surviving as wins away from home are a major boost in the NFL.  With regard to Tommy Carr it is worth mentioning that he played for Tipperary, before he played for Dublin.  He would have a certain knowledge of some of the Tipp players, but he does not seem to have put that to any great use today.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on February 15, 2009, 05:37:41 PM
Quote from: Onlooker on February 15, 2009, 05:28:08 PM
That was a very sweet win today for a young Tipperary team that is largely based on the Under 21 teams of 2007 and 2008 that pushed the eventual All Ireland Champions Cork and Kerry all the way in two Munster Finals.  I am not one for gloating but the references to losing to hurling counties I find quite insulting and condescending.  Hurling is the No. 1 sport in Tipperary, but there are a lot of footballers in the county as well and I am proud of the players that pulled off that win today.  This win gives us a chance of keeping our place in Div. 3.  It will be a struggle, but we have a realistic chance of surviving as wins away from home are a major boost in the NFL.  With regard to Tommy Carr it is worth mentioning that he played for Tipperary, before he played for Dublin.  He would have a certain knowledge of some of the Tipp players, but he does not seem to have put that to any great use today.

my comments were not meant to be condescending Onlooker,and i apologise if you were insulted by them however you can imagine how we feel,we were expecting to be challenging for promotion,yet we have lost to the two supposedly weakest teams in the division.
You do have some fine players in that team,
Barry Grogan is as good a placekicker as ive seen.
Philip Austin your number 11 was outstanding
as was Number 7 Brian Fox.
we are in freefall,thanks for not gloating and best of luck to Tipp in Football and Hurling for the rest of the year
as for Tommy Carr, i hope he doesnt let the door hit him on the way out  >:(
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Onlooker on February 15, 2009, 05:54:38 PM
Cheers, Ballyhaiseman.  No hard feelings at all.  I can certainly sympathise with Cavan supporters, having left many League and Championship games in deep despair!.  Things are never as bad as they seem at the final whistle, but I am a loss to understand how Cavan have struggled for so many years.   I know that there is a passion for football in Cavan and they do say that the darkest hour is before the dawn.  With regard to Barry Grogan, I expect he was kicking the frees off the ground and I think there is lot to be said for that method instead of kicking from the hand.  I still can't see Cavan being relegated to Div. 4.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on February 15, 2009, 05:57:30 PM
Quote from: Onlooker on February 15, 2009, 05:54:38 PM
Cheers, Ballyhaiseman.  No hard feelings at all.  I can certainly sympathise with Cavan supporters, having left many League and Championship games in deep despair!.  Things are never as bad as they seem at the final whistle, but I am a loss to understand how Cavan have struggled for so many years.   I know that there is a passion for football in Cavan and they do say that the darkest hour is before the dawn.  With regard to Barry Grogan, I expect he was kicking the frees off the ground and I think there is lot to be said for that method instead of kicking from the hand.  I still can't see Cavan being relegated to Div. 4.

I think your wrong there.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Drung on February 15, 2009, 06:52:48 PM
QuoteIf Carr had any pride, he would walk after that.
Just so we're clear: you think that if Tommy Carr doesn't quit as manager after six weeks of collective training, he has no pride?
Also, the Tipp freetaker was good but by no means that best I have seen. It's not like he kicked 0-10 and was flinging them over from all angles. He scored six or seven frees, all in front of the goals (more or less) and a couple from about 40 to 45 metres.
He dropped a couple short as well, actually.
Well done to Tipp, thoroughly deserved the win, great workrate.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on February 15, 2009, 07:23:39 PM
Quote from: Drung on February 15, 2009, 06:52:48 PM
QuoteIf Carr had any pride, he would walk after that.
Just so we're clear: you think that if Tommy Carr doesn't quit as manager after six weeks of collective training, he has no pride?
Also, the Tipp freetaker was good but by no means that best I have seen. It's not like he kicked 0-10 and was flinging them over from all angles. He scored six or seven frees, all in front of the goals (more or less) and a couple from about 40 to 45 metres.
He dropped a couple short as well, actually.
Well done to Tipp, thoroughly deserved the win, great workrate.


Yes Carr should quit,perhaps it might stop the plunge into division 4 if we could get someone decent in.
6 weeks of collective training? give me a break,Its the same for everyone, Yet the Tipp players were far faster and fitter than us.
He gave strength and conditioning programmes out in November, he should have been able to judge if the players had done it and whether their fitness was up to scratch beforehand.If not they should have been left off the panel.
One example is Pauric Reily, who is clearly off the pace and not fit,Yet was played in both games.
Either Tommy Carr cant judge a player or his training programmes are not worth a shit.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on February 15, 2009, 07:34:12 PM
Probably best if some of us didn't post right after the game as emotions are running high. I'd agree a little with what everyone says. The basic skills were lacking in places-not being able to pick the ball up etc. although the pitch looked bumpy. But the biggest problem as far as I saw it was all under the broad heading of Attitude.

We came out very relaxed and I would suspect that the players were complacent. If you start a game like that it's very difficult to change the mentality half way through. Tipperary played some nice football in the first half, moving & supporting the ball well in hand passing moves in particular. But what are our lads thinking or being taught?

When a half back goes on the overlap to support a team-mate why must our lads wait until he has the bal in his handsl and is 10 metres ahead before deciding to make the big lung-bursting, crowd pleasing chase back. I remember John Giles saying of Denis Irwin that he rarely makes sliding tackles cos he puts himself in a position so that it's rarely necessary. We had Eddie & Martin Reilly chasing back trying to gain 10 metres on a man when being switched on in the first place would have done the job.

The half foward line wasn't interested in making themselves available as an option all day long and the amount of times our backs had to play the ball across the pitch to retain possession was unbelievable. Of course you got the usual old school brainless fans demanding it be lumped in long to nobody.
There was no gameplan and you could clearly hear Brides telling them not to be putting every ball in high. Was the plan to put the ball in high? Was there a plan?

The Cavan mentality has been there for years. We think we're better than we are. We'll walk over Tipperary is the belief whereas the Tipp belief was ""We can win this game if we work our arses off". And guess who was right?

Having spoken to players that worked with TC, the fear was always that despite his much needed disciplinarian approach, he is a dour manager that won't do much for inspiration. Our lads need both sides of it.

Ridiculous to be calling for him to resign IMO but another sad day to add to the list of the recent ??? years. I took look forward to club action in a fortnight. :'( ???

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on February 15, 2009, 08:05:32 PM
The Forward movement has been poor for years,on one occasion in the first half all 3 in the full forward line all dummied one way then  ran into the same area crowding it out.
we used to get away with it, when we had sheer pace in Jayo and Larry in their youth who could take on and beat their markers with sheer speed,but some coaching and set plays must be undertaken,
If you ever watch the Tyrone forwards even in the McKenna cup, they make diagonal runs,interchange and are very hard to pick up.

im going to give the talk about Carr and the Tipp game a rest,like evryone else im in bad form over it.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: whats my name on February 15, 2009, 09:06:44 PM
i think ballyhaise man your being a bit hard on givney there with the ratings out of 10 if you look at the game he set up 3 points from wining the ball inside he scored a point he won the ball in the early stages that set up eddie for a goal chance i know he wasnt outstanding but sum of the ball that was going into him was cat because hes a big man speed isnt hes strongest point its ball wining ability!!!! balls in high is where he is going to do the damage for cavan and also most of the balls that came near him today he either broke or caught i think he has a big future with cavan and hes only 19 he has plenty of time 2 mature into his role do you agree??????

and also did anyone think cavan looked unfit 2day or was it just me???????
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Drung on February 15, 2009, 09:11:47 PM
To say Carr should quit is completely ludicrous.
He has been manager for five competitive matches, two of which we have won! Is five matches enough to fix two years of rubbish from the Keogan era??
If we get in a new manager, what happens if we lose two more league matches? He should go and we can get someone else in???
Let's talk sense here. The search for the quick fix solution is what we've all said is wrong with Cavan, including you BallyhaiseMan. It takes time to build a winning team. That was Keogan's team today, not Carr's.
I will judge him at the end of this season. Defeat, and the manner of it, is a bitter pill to swallow but let's not be hasty.
On Givney, he set up a couple of points and scored one which was almost a goal. He'll make it in time.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on February 15, 2009, 09:15:29 PM
i think Givney has terrific football ability whats my name,and has a big future with Cavan
Unfortunaely hes lacking pace,and the support around him is lacking at times, he did score 1 great point,but he got beaten in races he should have won 3 times for the ball and got blown up for overcarrying twice.i do agree that some of the ball going in to him was atrocious.
he mixed the good and the bad today. Hes a young lad and id say with the correct strength and conditioning,he can get faster and stronger,theres no question of the ability. As you can see im a big fan of his.
but the forward unit as a whole needs to be worked on immediately as theres no system of dummy runs,checks,diagonal runs and making space.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on February 15, 2009, 09:28:59 PM
Quote from: Drung on February 15, 2009, 09:11:47 PM
To say Carr should quit is completely ludicrous.
He has been manager for five competitive matches, two of which we have won! Is five matches enough to fix two years of rubbish from the Keogan era??
If we get in a new manager, what happens if we lose two more league matches? He should go and we can get someone else in???
Let's talk sense here. The search for the quick fix solution is what we've all said is wrong with Cavan, including you BallyhaiseMan. It takes time to build a winning team. That was Keogan's team today, not Carr's.
I will judge him at the end of this season. Defeat, and the manner of it, is a bitter pill to swallow but let's not be hasty.
On Givney, he set up a couple of points and scored one which was almost a goal. He'll make it in time.

To be honest Drung,Myself and a good few of the board's posters werent thrilled that Tommy Carr was appointed mainly for me because he isnt held in high regard by knowledgeable Dubs ive spoken to or Rossies either.but we gave him the benefit of the doubt.
I wasnt happy with some players being left off the panel(mainly the best full back in Cavan football Eoin Smith of Killygarry)
i believe he has picked too many of the same players that have failed to make the grade under Keoghan,so instead of building a new team,hes just altering slightly the shambles that Keoghan left.
Perhaps you are right,i may be far too hasty in calling for him to quit after 2 games,
but i cant see anything other than relegation to Div 4 after what ive seen so far from him.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on February 15, 2009, 09:34:17 PM
Quote from: REDCOL on February 15, 2009, 05:00:00 PM
Insulting to Tipp & Waterford - Come on they are hurling counties. If the Cavan Hurling Team beat one of their teams the Management would walk out of embarrassment. We are a football county and it is meant to be our number one sport. That performance was shocking and if Tommy Carr cant see that we need a new full back then he should walk. I know we are not in top 15 teams in the country  but a bit of pride please.



Antrim and Waterford are hurling counties as well so, unfortunately, when it comes to ourselves there's a bit of an unfortunate trend forming. We are, indeed, a football county as are leitrim, Longford, Louth etc. Would the world stop revolving if any of those outfits were taken out by Tipp, no. As one sensible poster put it, time to take a few days out folks and revisit things in the cold light of day on Tuesday. Immediate objective is to knuckle down, win three of remaining five games, stay in Div 3 and build from there, not easy but can be done with cool heads.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on February 15, 2009, 09:47:44 PM
Down Sat 7th at 7.30 pm in Newry,next one up.

Club Leagues start in 2 weeks,heres the fixtures

Division 1 Round 1
Redhills v Belturbet
Mullahoran v Lavey
Cavan Gaels v Ballinagh
Cuchulainns v Denn
Kilygarry v Gowna
Crosserlough v Castlerahan
Ramor Utd v Lacken

Div 2

Killeshandra v Crosserlough
Cavan Gaels v Cootehill
Kingscourt v Drumalee
Killinkere v Drumgoon
Drumlane v Ballyhaise
Knockbride v Drung
Ramor Utd v Lacken
Shercock V Kill

Division 3 Round 2
Munterconnacht v Butlersbridge
Templeport v Shannon Gaels
Corlough v Swanlinbar
Cornafean v Kildallon
Laragh Utd v Mountnugent
Bailieboro v Killygarry
Arva v Ballymachugh

Divsion 4-6 including the relegated Maghera start their league the weekend around 14th March

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: whats my name on February 15, 2009, 10:10:42 PM
ballyhaiseman i rember the 2 times givney was blown up for over carrying they where abit harsh one in the middle of the pitch where he caught a lovely ball took it down hopped it and gave it 2 walsh i can only rember him taking 3 steps and he was blown up and the other one was when he came on to a ball in the forwards and his man had his two arms around him which should of been a free because he wasnt able 2 play the ball in the first place 
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on February 15, 2009, 10:18:43 PM
Indeed
They could be considered harsh,
But Givney does have a tendancy to hold onto the ball a second too long and then he gets in trouble and is surrounded,its omething you can get away with at club level,but will get caught out at IC level.
As i said before some of that is because he has to,due to poor support play,but some of it is down to him aswell.
it occured a couple of times against Longford also.
But for me hes one of the bright spots of an otherwise disasterous start to the season.
If he gets good quality ball in(which he didnt today)he will cause mayhem.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on February 15, 2009, 10:21:30 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on February 15, 2009, 09:47:44 PM
Down Sat 7th at 7.30 pm in Newry,next one up.

Club Leagues start in 2 weeks,heres the fixtures

Division 1 Round 1
Redhills v Belturbet
Mullahoran v Lavey
Cavan Gaels v Ballinagh
Cuchulainns v Denn
Kilygarry v Gowna
Crosserlough v Castlerahan
Div 2

Killeshandra v Crosserlough
Cavan Gaels v Cootehill
Kingscourt v Drumalee
Killinkere v Drumgoon
Drumlane v Ballyhaise
Knockbride v Drung
Ramor Utd v Lacken
Kill a bye

Division 3 Round 2
Munterconnacht v Butlersbridge
Templeport v Shannon Gaels
Corlough v Swanlinbar
Cornafean v Kildallon
Laragh Utd v Mountnugent
Bailieboro v Killygarry
Arva v Ballymachugh

Divsion 4-6 including the relegated Maghera start their league the weekend around 14th March



Those fixtures for divisio 2 aren't right. There is only 14 teams in it, so no one has a bye. Ramor aren't in that division anymore either
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on February 15, 2009, 10:30:24 PM
shercock v kill in Div 2

Ramor/Lacken in Div 1.

my bad,poor cut and paste job.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on February 15, 2009, 10:35:39 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on February 15, 2009, 10:18:43 PM
Indeed
They could be considered harsh,
But Givney does have a tendancy to hold onto the ball a second too long and then he gets in trouble and is surrounded,its omething you can get away with at club level,but will get caught out at IC level.
As i said before some of that is because he has to,due to poor support play,but some of it is down to him aswell.
it occured a couple of times against Longford also.But for me hes one of the bright spots of an otherwise disasterous start to the season.
If he gets good quality ball in(which he didnt today)he will cause mayhem.

I agree with that he is always border line when it comes to over carrying.  He seems to have to stop and think when he gets the ball which wont cut it at this high a level  :-\.   I dont know if that can be coached out of him but he is far to slow and wont cut it this year.

Maybe the wont cut it this year is a bit harsh because he is as good as the rest of them but he needs to work on his sharpness.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4sam on February 16, 2009, 09:25:14 AM
Lads, I couldn't make it to the game yesterday but by the sound of the reaction here, this must have been an absolutley terrible performance. No offence intended to Tipp people but this must be our lowest point since the defeat to Waterford. At least we can look at it this way, the only way is up, because it cant get much worse!!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on February 16, 2009, 09:27:55 AM
Quote from: cavan4sam on February 16, 2009, 09:25:14 AM
Lads, I couldn't make it to the game yesterday but by the sound of the reaction here, this must have been an absolutley terrible performance. No offence intended to Tipp people but this must be our lowest point since the defeat to Waterford. At least we can look at it this way, the only way is up, because it cant get much worse!!

We could go through the whole league with out a win. 
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4sam on February 16, 2009, 10:04:41 AM
You know where im coming from though, Tipp are supposedly the worse team in the division.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on February 16, 2009, 11:36:38 AM
Quote from: Drung on February 15, 2009, 01:35:10 PM
QuoteI wasnt at any of the games... There were alot of lads who could have got the chop that werent playing well

How do you know?

McCormack's man, Ciaran Close, scored 0-5 from play in Belfast. That was the game which lost him his place. Good lad and good club player but county player? No.
Just because I couldnt go to the matches doesnt mean I dont get a run-down of things.I have been going to Cavan games for 20 years but when you see the same old shit happening over and over you just get sick of it all TBH.The interest just isnt there anymore.Il play with my club and give it my all but my days of following Cavan down to Ardfinnan and Dungarvan are over.
Im not saying that Enda should b starting with the County at the moment but give him time and he would be good enough.The lad was given a few games to prove himself.With the training and experience he would only have improved.There are some players on the Cavan panel who have been there for SIX seasons and still havent proven themselves to be an Inter-County footballer.That shit doesnt go on in successfull counties.Its no wonder Tipp are beating us.As a county at least they know what it takes to be successful.
BH Man, I think calling for Tommy Carrs head is a bit premature TBH but in the end I dont think it matters.
Red n Black Im sorry to say but your wasting your time thinking you can change things.I have been involved in my club at coaching for the last few years and Im only 24 and still playing.Ideally players should be let play and ex-players or parents should look after Underage in a club but its not happeneing.Parents or anybody else for that matter just don't wanna give up their time anymore.If one good thing comes out of this recession it is that maybe some people mite dedicate more of their free time(because there should be lots) to Coaching young lads.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on February 16, 2009, 11:44:09 AM
Anyone going to head to Newry in two weeks?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Drung on February 16, 2009, 12:38:07 PM
I was at all the three McKenna Cup matches and McCormack was poor in all - when I saw his direct opponents scored 0-5 against Antrim (and got in for a goal whioch he fluffed), the writing was on the wall.
In fairness, he shouldnt have been left on Close for the whole match that day.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4sam on February 16, 2009, 12:39:29 PM
Quote from: RednBlack on February 16, 2009, 11:45:47 AM
Quote from: cavan4ever on February 16, 2009, 11:44:09 AM
Anyone going to head to Newry in two weeks?
Wouldn't miss it!!

Ill be there
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on February 16, 2009, 12:46:36 PM
Quote from: Drung on February 16, 2009, 12:38:07 PM
I was at all the three McKenna Cup matches and McCormack was poor in all - when I saw his direct opponents scored 0-5 against Antrim (and got in for a goal whioch he fluffed), the writing was on the wall.
In fairness, he shouldnt have been left on Close for the whole match that day.


T think that enough about him now.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on February 16, 2009, 01:13:23 PM
Quote from: Drung on February 16, 2009, 12:38:07 PM
I was at all the three McKenna Cup matches and McCormack was poor in all - when I saw his direct opponents scored 0-5 against Antrim (and got in for a goal whioch he fluffed), the writing was on the wall.
In fairness, he shouldnt have been left on Close for the whole match that day.

last Question on this matter-Was he worse than our Full-Back?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on February 16, 2009, 01:19:23 PM
Quote from: boojangles on February 16, 2009, 11:36:38 AM

BH Man, I think calling for Tommy Carrs head is a bit premature TBH but in the end I dont think it matters.
Red n Black Im sorry to say but your wasting your time thinking you can change things.I have been involved in my club at coaching for the last few years and Im only 24 and still playing.Ideally players should be let play and ex-players or parents should look after Underage in a club but its not happeneing.Parents or anybody else for that matter just don't wanna give up their time anymore.If one good thing comes out of this recession it is that maybe some people mite dedicate more of their free time(because there should be lots) to Coaching young lads.

I honestly don't think I could agree with ya more, I'm the same with my club... Some parents don't want to know and they use it as  a baby sitting service and some of the coaches or people involved really don't know what they are doing and can end up doing more harm than good.  There are days when it could depress ya...

By the way, wasn't at the game yesterday but have heard a few accounts of it by now and it seems to me that the attitude was poor yesterday and it's a hard thing to try and change half way through the game especially when it's in the back of your mind that it's against supposed "inferior" opposition...
Roll on Cavan Gaels and the start of the leagues!!!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on February 16, 2009, 01:21:57 PM
Quote from: boojangles on February 16, 2009, 01:13:23 PM
Quote from: Drung on February 16, 2009, 12:38:07 PM
I was at all the three McKenna Cup matches and McCormack was poor in all - when I saw his direct opponents scored 0-5 against Antrim (and got in for a goal whioch he fluffed), the writing was on the wall.
In fairness, he shouldnt have been left on Close for the whole match that day.

last Question on this matter-Was he worse than our Full-Back?

He was worse in the Armagh game podge did ok when clarke moved out the field a bit.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on February 16, 2009, 01:36:31 PM
Quote from: RednBlack on February 16, 2009, 11:45:47 AM
Quote from: cavan4ever on February 16, 2009, 11:44:09 AM
Anyone going to head to Newry in two weeks?
Wouldn't miss it!!
......fuckin season ticket.
I felt like you on Sunday at half-time Boojangles. You feel a bit of pride in attending all the games and laugh at people that say they wouldn't watch if it was in their back garden. But when you see a lack of effort it might be a time to pack all in. Here's hoping that there was heavy training during the week or some reason we couldn't function.
Can you imagine the slobbering that Benny Coulter must be doing?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Drung on February 16, 2009, 01:59:17 PM
QuoteT think that enough about him now.

I don't understand?
Boojangles, apart from the Queens match, McCormack was worse than Podge in the other two games in my opinion. He should have been tried in a different position because he was lost at corner-back.
What has happened Tierney??
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Mr. Pain on February 16, 2009, 03:07:58 PM
This is typical of Cavan supporters. Slating players and managers before they get a chance. Carr has to be given a bit of time, no matter what credentials he has or hasn't. The lads playing are good enough to beat Tipperary. The problem has to be in the head. Ballyhaise Man, a bit OTT. Boojangles, go to the games and then make a point. Mr. Pain posted back a while ago about McCormack. While he is a good footballer he didn't perform in the games he played. Yes, you can talk about Padraig Reilly, it is strange to keep him in that position, he will probably tell you that himself. We do have to build a team and instant success will not happen although we should be beating these teams. Are there any leaders in the team? Who is the captain? The players have to stand up and take charge. Rant over!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on February 16, 2009, 03:17:11 PM
I tend to agree with Mr Pain. Carr and his back room team need some time. I think BMH when some time passes you'll see that changing manager now will do no good. I wasn't at the game but I can only imagine ye all felt like I did when I went to  the famous Waterford game a couple of years ago. There was a lot more at stake that day mind you (promotion if we got 1 point if I remember correctly). We have left ourselves an awful hill to climb but I think we are capable. I also have a theory as to part of the reason we are been beaten. Since now we have a potentially dangerous FF line, teams like Longford and Tipp are going to pack the defence. I don't think Cavan are used to playing against that and certainly have no idea how to counter it. This happened this year v Longford, then Tipp. Last year against W'Meath for one. We played better against the bigger teams that went one on one with us. The fact that we are not a big strong team means that it is harder to play against these tactics as we need men to break the tackle. That is a contributory factor IMO.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on February 16, 2009, 09:01:18 PM
There's an awful lot of despair in here but I can't help thinking alot of it is a bit knee jerk. I'm surprised at BHM's signature change and calls for Carr out, that smacks of over reaction to me to be honest and not like BHM but I guess it's still very soon after a very galling loss.

I was working in Dublin so didn't make the game, so perhaps I'd be feeling a lot worse if I'd witnessed the performance first hand. Then again, at this remove, maybe it's easier to have more perspective.

Carr, quite simply, hasn't had a wet week to implement his ideas or do anything really. He's experimenting a little and will obviously have a certain style he will need time to implement, or worst case scenario, time to show he can't implement one. If he had dispensed with Podge at full back already we'd likely be saying he was chopping and changing too quickly a la Keogan, who let's not forget was giving debuts at midfield come championship time, so dishevelled and panicky were his preparations. Whatever our best team will be, we will know it come summer, I'm confident of that with this manager.

Also, at this time of the year, off the wall results like this are common in the league. Lower ranked teams like Tipp can have a serious fitness edge and that counts for alot too, especially if the other team happens to have had a very heavy session in a given week, as someone alluded to on this very thread in the run up to the match. The Longford loss too was something of a comparable freak by all accounts.

I'm hopeful that the Sheridan(?) lad brought in from Virginia VS to train the team will have us in the right shape coming nearer the end of the campaign. I'm also happy that the likes of Mulvey and McKeever were given a fair crack to prove themselves and have taken too much rope and are now after getting fucked off, unlike previous regimes where they were endlessly indulged. That's a huge plus for me, it's the corner stone of anything we hope to do and was the first step that we were avoiding taking in recent years, so let's just wait and see if results slide into line in time.

As ac says, with cool heads and a reaction to this defeat, plus the selection lessons learned perhaps, we can still hold our place in this Division I believe.

Put it this way, I still doubt, with all respect, that Tipp would beat Cavan in a championship match come summer, all things being equal as regards a full team, fitness etc. Let's keep a bit of perspective and not be takiing the nuclear option quite so hurriedly. I accept this raises a few doubts and casts a few clouds but it's very early days and let's take a breath and see how the rest of the season goes before making our judgements.

I'm not expressing full confidence in Carr or anything as regards winning things, just saying we have to give him a fair crack before assessing him properly. I do believe he can put a solid foundation in place and sad though it is to have to acknowledge it, Cavan football is so firmly in the mire that with this small acheivement we would have to be happy. Only on that can we build.

Let's just take a breath here.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Maximus Marillius on February 16, 2009, 09:18:05 PM
Quote from: cavanmaniac on February 16, 2009, 09:01:18 PM
There's an awful lot of despair in here but I can't help thinking alot of it is a bit knee jerk. I'm surprised at BHM's signature change and calls for Carr out, that smacks of over reaction to me to be honest and not like BHM but I guess it's still very soon after a very galling loss.

I was working in Dublin so didn't make the game, so perhaps I'd be feeling a lot worse if I'd witnessed the performance first hand. Then again, at this remove, maybe it's easier to have more perspective.

Carr, quite simply, hasn't had a wet week to implement his ideas or do anything really. He's experimenting a little and will obviously have a certain style he will need time to implement, or worst case scenario, time to show he can't implement one. If he had dispensed with Podge at full back already we'd likely be saying he was chopping and changing too quickly a la Keogan, who let's not forget was giving debuts at midfield come championship time, so dishevelled and panicky were his preparations. Whatever our best team will be, we will know it come summer, I'm confident of that with this manager.

Also, at this time of the year, off the wall results like this are common in the league. Lower ranked teams like Tipp can have a serious fitness edge and that counts for alot too, especially if the other team happens to have had a very heavy session in a given week, as someone alluded to on this very thread in the run up to the match. The Longford loss too was something of a comparable freak by all accounts.

I'm hopeful that the Sheridan(?) lad brought in from Virginia VS to train the team will have us in the right shape coming nearer the end of the campaign. I'm also happy that the likes of Mulvey and McKeever were given a fair crack to prove themselves and have taken too much rope and are now after getting fucked off, unlike previous regimes where they were endlessly indulged. That's a huge plus for me, it's the corner stone of anything we hope to do and was the first step that we were avoiding taking in recent years, so let's just wait and see if results slide into line in time.

As ac says, with cool heads and a reaction to this defeat, plus the selection lessons learned perhaps, we can still hold our place in this Division I believe.

Put it this way, I still doubt, with all respect, that Tipp would beat Cavan in a championship match come summer, all things being equal as regards a full team, fitness etc. Let's keep a bit of perspective and not be takiing the nuclear option quite so hurriedly. I accept this raises a few doubts and casts a few clouds but it's very early days and let's take a breath and see how the rest of the season goes before making our judgements.

I'm not expressing full confidence in Carr or anything as regards winning things, just saying we have to give him a fair crack before assessing him properly. I do believe he can put a solid foundation in place and sad though it is to have to acknowledge it, Cavan football is so firmly in the mire that with this small acheivement we would have to be happy. Only on that can we build.

Let's just take a breath here.

:D :D :D...cant see the wood for the trees....thats as funny as I have seen in a while...not near wise. That warped sense of non reality explains it all :D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on February 16, 2009, 09:26:22 PM
Quote from: Maximus Marillius on February 16, 2009, 09:18:05 PM
Quote from: cavanmaniac on February 16, 2009, 09:01:18 PM
There's an awful lot of despair in here but I can't help thinking alot of it is a bit knee jerk. I'm surprised at BHM's signature change and calls for Carr out, that smacks of over reaction to me to be honest and not like BHM but I guess it's still very soon after a very galling loss.

I was working in Dublin so didn't make the game, so perhaps I'd be feeling a lot worse if I'd witnessed the performance first hand. Then again, at this remove, maybe it's easier to have more perspective.

Carr, quite simply, hasn't had a wet week to implement his ideas or do anything really. He's experimenting a little and will obviously have a certain style he will need time to implement, or worst case scenario, time to show he can't implement one. If he had dispensed with Podge at full back already we'd likely be saying he was chopping and changing too quickly a la Keogan, who let's not forget was giving debuts at midfield come championship time, so dishevelled and panicky were his preparations. Whatever our best team will be, we will know it come summer, I'm confident of that with this manager.

Also, at this time of the year, off the wall results like this are common in the league. Lower ranked teams like Tipp can have a serious fitness edge and that counts for alot too, especially if the other team happens to have had a very heavy session in a given week, as someone alluded to on this very thread in the run up to the match. The Longford loss too was something of a comparable freak by all accounts.

I'm hopeful that the Sheridan(?) lad brought in from Virginia VS to train the team will have us in the right shape coming nearer the end of the campaign. I'm also happy that the likes of Mulvey and McKeever were given a fair crack to prove themselves and have taken too much rope and are now after getting fucked off, unlike previous regimes where they were endlessly indulged. That's a huge plus for me, it's the corner stone of anything we hope to do and was the first step that we were avoiding taking in recent years, so let's just wait and see if results slide into line in time.

As ac says, with cool heads and a reaction to this defeat, plus the selection lessons learned perhaps, we can still hold our place in this Division I believe.

Put it this way, I still doubt, with all respect, that Tipp would beat Cavan in a championship match come summer, all things being equal as regards a full team, fitness etc. Let's keep a bit of perspective and not be takiing the nuclear option quite so hurriedly. I accept this raises a few doubts and casts a few clouds but it's very early days and let's take a breath and see how the rest of the season goes before making our judgements.

I'm not expressing full confidence in Carr or anything as regards winning things, just saying we have to give him a fair crack before assessing him properly. I do believe he can put a solid foundation in place and sad though it is to have to acknowledge it, Cavan football is so firmly in the mire that with this small acheivement we would have to be happy. Only on that can we build.

Let's just take a breath here.

:D :D :D...cant see the wood for the trees....thats as funny as I have seen in a while...not near wise. That warped sense of non reality explains it all :D

YAWN!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on February 16, 2009, 09:45:49 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on February 16, 2009, 09:26:22 PM
Quote from: Maximus Marillius on February 16, 2009, 09:18:05 PM
Quote from: cavanmaniac on February 16, 2009, 09:01:18 PM
There's an awful lot of despair in here but I can't help thinking alot of it is a bit knee jerk. I'm surprised at BHM's signature change and calls for Carr out, that smacks of over reaction to me to be honest and not like BHM but I guess it's still very soon after a very galling loss.

I was working in Dublin so didn't make the game, so perhaps I'd be feeling a lot worse if I'd witnessed the performance first hand. Then again, at this remove, maybe it's easier to have more perspective.

Carr, quite simply, hasn't had a wet week to implement his ideas or do anything really. He's experimenting a little and will obviously have a certain style he will need time to implement, or worst case scenario, time to show he can't implement one. If he had dispensed with Podge at full back already we'd likely be saying he was chopping and changing too quickly a la Keogan, who let's not forget was giving debuts at midfield come championship time, so dishevelled and panicky were his preparations. Whatever our best team will be, we will know it come summer, I'm confident of that with this manager.

Also, at this time of the year, off the wall results like this are common in the league. Lower ranked teams like Tipp can have a serious fitness edge and that counts for alot too, especially if the other team happens to have had a very heavy session in a given week, as someone alluded to on this very thread in the run up to the match. The Longford loss too was something of a comparable freak by all accounts.

I'm hopeful that the Sheridan(?) lad brought in from Virginia VS to train the team will have us in the right shape coming nearer the end of the campaign. I'm also happy that the likes of Mulvey and McKeever were given a fair crack to prove themselves and have taken too much rope and are now after getting fucked off, unlike previous regimes where they were endlessly indulged. That's a huge plus for me, it's the corner stone of anything we hope to do and was the first step that we were avoiding taking in recent years, so let's just wait and see if results slide into line in time.

As ac says, with cool heads and a reaction to this defeat, plus the selection lessons learned perhaps, we can still hold our place in this Division I believe.

Put it this way, I still doubt, with all respect, that Tipp would beat Cavan in a championship match come summer, all things being equal as regards a full team, fitness etc. Let's keep a bit of perspective and not be takiing the nuclear option quite so hurriedly. I accept this raises a few doubts and casts a few clouds but it's very early days and let's take a breath and see how the rest of the season goes before making our judgements.

I'm not expressing full confidence in Carr or anything as regards winning things, just saying we have to give him a fair crack before assessing him properly. I do believe he can put a solid foundation in place and sad though it is to have to acknowledge it, Cavan football is so firmly in the mire that with this small acheivement we would have to be happy. Only on that can we build.

Let's just take a breath here.

:D :D :D...cant see the wood for the trees....thats as funny as I have seen in a while...not near wise. That warped sense of non reality explains it all :D

YAWN!

In fairness to Max it is a really stupid statement to make.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: the salmon of knowledge on February 16, 2009, 09:50:35 PM
i must say, that was the worst cavan preformance i ever seen yesterday, no joke...
but to look for carrs head is too much, sack him, then what,?? no matter what any man needs some time, a precious commodity as a manager these days.
but, probably the most distressing thing of all yesterday was the lack of shape, premedittated attacking patterns and any type of a general plan. I think anyone who was at the game will agree, we looked like the hurling county yesterday(with respect).

so what were our attacking options??

presumabaly the high ball to our FF who ideally collects and offloads to oncoming WHFs was one plan.
well that was out the window, the FB marshalled givney well, and even if he won it, there was literally a cavan man in sight!

we cant run hard at opponents as we cant break tackles
we cant rely on quality distribution from midfield and CHB


just very very bad
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on February 16, 2009, 10:15:53 PM



Quote from: Maximus Marillius on February 16, 2009, 09:18:05 PM
Quote from: cavanmaniac on February 16, 2009, 09:01:18 PM
There's an awful lot of despair in here but I can't help thinking alot of it is a bit knee jerk. I'm surprised at BHM's signature change and calls for Carr out, that smacks of over reaction to me to be honest and not like BHM but I guess it's still very soon after a very galling loss.

I was working in Dublin so didn't make the game, so perhaps I'd be feeling a lot worse if I'd witnessed the performance first hand. Then again, at this remove, maybe it's easier to have more perspective.

Carr, quite simply, hasn't had a wet week to implement his ideas or do anything really. He's experimenting a little and will obviously have a certain style he will need time to implement, or worst case scenario, time to show he can't implement one. If he had dispensed with Podge at full back already we'd likely be saying he was chopping and changing too quickly a la Keogan, who let's not forget was giving debuts at midfield come championship time, so dishevelled and panicky were his preparations. Whatever our best team will be, we will know it come summer, I'm confident of that with this manager.

Also, at this time of the year, off the wall results like this are common in the league. Lower ranked teams like Tipp can have a serious fitness edge and that counts for alot too, especially if the other team happens to have had a very heavy session in a given week, as someone alluded to on this very thread in the run up to the match. The Longford loss too was something of a comparable freak by all accounts.

I'm hopeful that the Sheridan(?) lad brought in from Virginia VS to train the team will have us in the right shape coming nearer the end of the campaign. I'm also happy that the likes of Mulvey and McKeever were given a fair crack to prove themselves and have taken too much rope and are now after getting fucked off, unlike previous regimes where they were endlessly indulged. That's a huge plus for me, it's the corner stone of anything we hope to do and was the first step that we were avoiding taking in recent years, so let's just wait and see if results slide into line in time.

As ac says, with cool heads and a reaction to this defeat, plus the selection lessons learned perhaps, we can still hold our place in this Division I believe.

Put it this way, I still doubt, with all respect, that Tipp would beat Cavan in a championship match come summer, all things being equal as regards a full team, fitness etc. Let's keep a bit of perspective and not be takiing the nuclear option quite so hurriedly. I accept this raises a few doubts and casts a few clouds but it's very early days and let's take a breath and see how the rest of the season goes before making our judgements.

I'm not expressing full confidence in Carr or anything as regards winning things, just saying we have to give him a fair crack before assessing him properly. I do believe he can put a solid foundation in place and sad though it is to have to acknowledge it, Cavan football is so firmly in the mire that with this small acheivement we would have to be happy. Only on that can we build.

Let's just take a breath here.

:D :D :D...cant see the wood for the trees....thats as funny as I have seen in a while...not near wise. That warped sense of non reality explains it all :D

A lot of sense talked but maybe we should be concentrating on the league rather than the championship.

Oh learned one Max, please do enlighten us. Let me guess, you backed Tipp to win?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on February 16, 2009, 10:34:25 PM
Quote from: RednBlack on February 16, 2009, 10:20:58 PM
Quote from: boojangles on February 16, 2009, 11:36:38 AM
Quote from: Drung on February 15, 2009, 01:35:10 PM
QuoteI wasnt at any of the games... There were alot of lads who could have got the chop that werent playing well

How do you know?

McCormack's man, Ciaran Close, scored 0-5 from play in Belfast. That was the game which lost him his place. Good lad and good club player but county player? No.
Just because I couldnt go to the matches doesnt mean I dont get a run-down of things.I have been going to Cavan games for 20 years but when you see the same old shit happening over and over you just get sick of it all TBH.The interest just isnt there anymore.Il play with my club and give it my all but my days of following Cavan down to Ardfinnan and Dungarvan are over.
Im not saying that Enda should b starting with the County at the moment but give him time and he would be good enough.The lad was given a few games to prove himself.With the training and experience he would only have improved.There are some players on the Cavan panel who have been there for SIX seasons and still havent proven themselves to be an Inter-County footballer.That shit doesnt go on in successfull counties.Its no wonder Tipp are beating us.As a county at least they know what it takes to be successful.
BH Man, I think calling for Tommy Carrs head is a bit premature TBH but in the end I dont think it matters.
Red n Black Im sorry to say but your wasting your time thinking you can change things.I have been involved in my club at coaching for the last few years and Im only 24 and still playing.Ideally players should be let play and ex-players or parents should look after Underage in a club but its not happeneing.Parents or anybody else for that matter just don't wanna give up their time anymore.If one good thing comes out of this recession it is that maybe some people mite dedicate more of their free time(because there should be lots) to Coaching young lads.

I disagree. To improve our young players then coaches, be they parents or players need to go and learn how to coach. Just because someone has played ball doest make them a coach. Fair play for being involved with coaching in your club but did you attend the recent Mid Cavan two Introduction Coaching Course or travel to the Ulster Coaching Conference. How about the Conference in the Kilmore next weekend. If coaches don't continuously educate themselves as to what is happening in this crucial area of player development then Cavan football can go no where. In our own club with huge effort from some of the coaches already involved with coaching they got 29 people out over two days to complete the new course. Lots of current players, ex players and parents took part. The previous weekend saw 16 clubs offered coaching courses in two regions in Cavan and less than 30 turned up in two venues!!! Players should give something back even when playing as the young players look up to them as Seniors in the club and fair play to you for getting involved. Check out the last Ulster winning team in Cavan and see how many are coaching at club level!!! Then go through the Tyrone All Ireland winning teams, especially at colleges level, and see how many ex players help out. A team effort is needed in Cavan to dig ourselves out of this mess. A lot of folks love to hate the Gaels but you have to admire the coaching efforts they put in over the last 20 years. We need the same effort put in at all clubs to balance out the standards across the county and make our club games more competitive and then our players will learn about playing to a high standard all the time. Try out the coaching courses and even current payers learn so many new things to bring back to their senior training sessions. Some of our players didn't become great drinkers by just having the odd one now and again. It takes repeated practice. So does football and coaching!!!!

f**k thats to much text for this time of night!!

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on February 16, 2009, 11:41:16 PM
Re/ Underage structures
i know a serious amount of work has gone on at underage level in my own club over the last 10 years.. we are seeing the benefit as we are now competing in Division One and more than holding our own,Bailebrough are another one who are putting in the work,they have some great young talent coming through at underage level(and they have size aswell!!)
i won everything from U 12 up,alot of the time competing with Boojangles and Drumalee  ;) but it was all Division 2, as the Gaels powered by Nicholas Walsh and co, owned Division One at every grade and annihilated everyone in their path.To me our minor team even if they dont win a league or championship this year have achieved far greater than we did by competing and holding their own with the best teams in the county.

i think it shows a great amount of work has been done in certain clubs as Baileborough(under 14, under 16 mainly) Castlerahan,Crosserlough  Kingscourt and Lurgan/Ramor  have improved and on occasion indeed surpassed the Gaels at different age groups. There are still clubs who have to get their act together though,but definite improvements have been made by certain clubs

id always hold Tyrone up as the benchmark as to where we must get to in terms of coaching and youth development,
Tyrone were putting their youth and coaching structures together in 1994, a good 10-12 years before we caught on so we have alot of catching up to do.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on February 17, 2009, 12:36:14 AM
Quote from: cavanmaniac on February 16, 2009, 09:01:18 PM
Also, at this time of the year, off the wall results like this are common in the league. Lower ranked teams like Tipp can have a serious fitness edge and that counts for alot too, especially if the other team happens to have had a very heavy session in a given week, as someone alluded to on this very thread in the run up to the match. The Longford loss too was something of a comparable freak by all accounts.

To the Cavan supporter on the thread that questioned it, I'd stand over all this no problem.

Certain teams make a bigger effort for the league than others and know that they can steal a march on opponents early on with higher fitness levels, this is a widely accepted factor in results every year, especially early on. e.g. Louth in January were way ahead of everyone else by all accounts, it's hardly a madness to suggest that maybe fitness levels were just one factor in this result. I don't know because I wasn't there, I was just suggesting.

Heavy training sessions with a view on later in the year can also lop-side league results, I think someone mentioned Cavan were doing heavy stamina work in the week? Again I don't see anything outlandish in that, and in any game where you dominate midfield and control possession to a 65%, or more, extent as against Longford, it's hardly stretching it to say it's a fairly rare result to lose that particular game.

Anyway, I could be worse, I could be off in other counties' threads offering my own repetitive world view in some vain effort at WUMing, but people who do that are basically akin to Shane McGowan setting up a mobile clinic to offer free dental advice.
And believing your opinion counts for much in another county's thread, when everything posted to date points the other direction, well that might be the most warped and non realistic thing of all.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on February 17, 2009, 08:03:05 AM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on February 16, 2009, 11:41:16 PM
Re/ Underage structures
i know a serious amount of work has gone on at underage level in my own club over the last 10 years.. we are seeing the benefit as we are now competing in Division One and more than holding our own,Bailebrough are another one who are putting in the work,they have some great young talent coming through at underage level(and they have size aswell!!)
i won everything from U 12 up,alot of the time competing with Boojangles and Drumalee  ;) but it was all Division 2, as the Gaels powered by Nicholas Walsh and co, owned Division One at every grade and annihilated everyone in their path.To me our minor team even if they dont win a league or championship this year have achieved far greater than we did by competing and holding their own with the best teams in the county.

i think it shows a great amount of work has been done in certain clubs as Baileborough(under 14, under 16 mainly) Castlerahan,Crosserlough  Kingscourt and Lurgan/Ramor  have improved and on occasion indeed surpassed the Gaels at different age groups. There are still clubs who have to get their act together though,but definite improvements have been made by certain clubs

id always hold Tyrone up as the benchmark as to where we must get to in terms of coaching and youth development,
Tyrone were putting their youth and coaching structures together in 1994, a good 10-12 years before we caught on so we have alot of catching up to do.


I see you've been cleaning up  the carnage you left on the board on Sunday :D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on February 17, 2009, 08:11:48 AM
 :D :D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on February 17, 2009, 01:36:47 PM
Yep i lost the plot, did anyone notice?  ???  :D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on February 17, 2009, 02:22:29 PM
Quote from: RednBlack on February 17, 2009, 02:14:50 PM
Tis the effects of following Cavan. Seniors to play Under 21's this weekend. Will they win this one???????? Would be great to see the players away from home pooling cars and making the efforts to come home for training midweek. Its a proud moment in any players career to make his home county panel so with all the modes of transport available to these guys maybe they could use some of the grant money to travel once a week!!!!

It's easy saying that from here, but I don't care what panel you're on - If you're working on the far side of Dublin and you don't finish work till 6 bells you haven't a snowballs hope in hell of getting to Cavan for 8 bells.  Anyway I don't think this time of year is the most important time to be coming down for training... couple of weeks before champo obviously.

Anyway I believe that the training the Dublin based players are doing up there with the Mayo and Wexford boys is top notch stuff.  The guy running it, Jim Kilty knows his stuff big time.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on February 17, 2009, 05:57:33 PM
Quote from: Celt_Man on February 17, 2009, 02:22:29 PM
Quote from: RednBlack on February 17, 2009, 02:14:50 PM
Tis the effects of following Cavan. Seniors to play Under 21's this weekend. Will they win this one???????? Would be great to see the players away from home pooling cars and making the efforts to come home for training midweek. Its a proud moment in any players career to make his home county panel so with all the modes of transport available to these guys maybe they could use some of the grant money to travel once a week!!!!

It's easy saying that from here, but I don't care what panel you're on - If you're working on the far side of Dublin and you don't finish work till 6 bells you haven't a snowballs hope in hell of getting to Cavan for 8 bells.  Anyway I don't think this time of year is the most important time to be coming down for training... couple of weeks before champo obviously.

Anyway I believe that the training the Dublin based players are doing up there with the Mayo and Wexford boys is top notch stuff.  The guy running it, Jim Kilty knows his stuff big time.

Our club trained in Navan on a wednesday night nearly all last summer, so the dublin lads could come down,
Theres no reason why the dublin based players cant continue working with the Mayo/Wexford lads with Jim Kilty,but also meet with the Cavan based lads one night DURING the week somewhere in Meath,Anyone who has ever done county training at this time of the year could tell you,heavy sessions take days to recover from,so its not ideal to be doing heavy sessions on a friday,then having national league matches on a Sat or Sunday, it would explain why the lads looked very sluggish against Tipp.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on February 17, 2009, 06:23:10 PM
Is Sean McCormack U21 this year haisman?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on February 17, 2009, 07:35:01 PM
Hes not, no C4ever
Hes in the US working aswell, went 3 or 4 weeks ago. Huge Miss for the club.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on February 17, 2009, 07:38:06 PM
Quote from: Drung on February 16, 2009, 01:59:17 PM
QuoteT think that enough about him now.

I don't understand?
Boojangles, apart from the Queens match, McCormack was worse than Podge in the other two games in my opinion. He should have been tried in a different position because he was lost at corner-back.
What has happened Tierney??
Your right there.Enda hasnt played corner back since 2005.
Drumalee played Knockbride on Saturday,John Tierney played the full match at Midfield and looked very good.His composure and reading of the game is second to none.Not sure whats the story with him and Cavan.
BH Man whats the story with Cullivan,is it true that there is problems with his transfer??
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on February 17, 2009, 07:40:26 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on February 17, 2009, 07:35:01 PM
Hes not, no C4ever
Hes in the US working aswell, went 3 or 4 weeks ago. Huge Miss for the club.
God thats some number he must have if they are flying him home for the weekends??Seen him in Cavan on Saturday
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on February 17, 2009, 07:44:10 PM
Quote from: boojangles on February 17, 2009, 07:40:26 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on February 17, 2009, 07:35:01 PM
Hes not, no C4ever
Hes in the US working aswell, went 3 or 4 weeks ago. Huge Miss for the club.
God thats some number he must have if they are flying him home for the weekends??Seen him in Cavan on Saturday

Ballyhaiseman must still be not right from sunday!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on February 17, 2009, 10:53:43 PM
Quote from: boojangles on February 17, 2009, 07:40:26 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on February 17, 2009, 07:35:01 PM
Hes not, no C4ever
Hes in the US working aswell, went 3 or 4 weeks ago. Huge Miss for the club.
God thats some number he must have if they are flying him home for the weekends??Seen him in Cavan on Saturday

:D He hasnt trained with the club this year yet, because he was/is supposed to be heading to the States to work/holiday until May when he was coming back.
dont know whats the story so.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on February 17, 2009, 10:57:34 PM
Quote from: boojangles on February 17, 2009, 07:38:06 PM
Quote from: Drung on February 16, 2009, 01:59:17 PM
QuoteT think that enough about him now.

I don't understand?
Boojangles, apart from the Queens match, McCormack was worse than Podge in the other two games in my opinion. He should have been tried in a different position because he was lost at corner-back.
What has happened Tierney??
Your right there.Enda hasnt played corner back since 2005.
Drumalee played Knockbride on Saturday,John Tierney played the full match at Midfield and looked very good.His composure and reading of the game is second to none.Not sure whats the story with him and Cavan.
BH Man whats the story with Cullivan,is it true that there is problems with his transfer??

As RednBlack says, For an Inter County Transfer you have to give an address, He supposedly gave DCU as his address which was rejected because it wasnt a permanent residence.
dont know if he will put in another request(is there a deadline??), or if he will play for us this year.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on February 17, 2009, 11:25:43 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on February 17, 2009, 10:57:34 PM
As RednBlack says, For an Inter County Transfer you have to give an address, He supposedly gave DCU as his address which was rejected because it wasnt a permanent residence.
dont know if he will put in another request(is there a deadline??), or if he will play for us this year.

If my memory serves me right, there is no deadline for Inter County transfers at all
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on February 18, 2009, 12:19:09 AM
Quote from: Celt_Man on February 17, 2009, 11:25:43 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on February 17, 2009, 10:57:34 PM
As RednBlack says, For an Inter County Transfer you have to give an address, He supposedly gave DCU as his address which was rejected because it wasnt a permanent residence.
dont know if he will put in another request(is there a deadline??), or if he will play for us this year.

If my memory serves me right, there is no deadline for Inter County transfers at all
Correct.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on February 18, 2009, 09:14:53 PM
well then im sure all he will have to do is get an address out around Malahide to put down on the form,
dont know how this one will play out,will know more at the weekend when the lads get together.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: LackenLegend on February 19, 2009, 10:20:14 AM
Lads this makes good reading and really sums it up: http://www.anglocelt.ie/articles/2/36258
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on February 19, 2009, 12:14:20 PM
A few of the Cavan boys seem to showing well in the Sigerson anyway

http://www.hoganstand.com/ArticleForm.aspx?ID=107198

Quote
Sigerson: Reilly really on form
19 February 2009

Martin Reilly bagged two fine goals as DIT romped to an emphatic 2-15 to 0-9 win over GMIT in their Ulster Bank Sigerson Cup quarter-final clash at Pearse Stadium.

In a lively first half both teams enjoyed pockets of supremecy with GMIT going in 0-7 to 0-6 ahead at the interval.

DIT proceeded to grab the initiative in a big way on the restart though and a 2-3 unanswered tally left them sitting pretty on the back of an eight point lead.

Reilly was the chief architect of DIT's crucial burst of scores with his goals coming in the 42nd and 45th minutes.

GMIT's in-form freetaker Donie Shine ended a 17 minute barren spell for his side with a neat point but DIT replied with Reilly stroking over a classy point to keep his side firmly in the driver's seat.

The dying stages of the game was all about the margin of victory for the Dublin-based outfit with Reilly pulling the strings throughout.

A flurry of points in the final five minutes from Reilly, John Coughlan, Paul Brogan, Daniel Graham and Donnacha Reilly copper-fastened the winners' advantage 'till the death.

DIT - E Sommerville; D Walsh, N O'Shea, D Hughes; K McLoughlin (0-1), R Glavin (0-1), B Flanagan; J Coughlan (0-1), P O'Neill (0-1); M Reilly (2-3), D Reilly (0-2), M Burke; P Brogan (0-1), B Moran (0-2), K McManamon (0-2). Subs: E Naughton (0-1) for Hughes, G Grehan for McLoughlin, C McIntyre for McManamon, C Daly for O'Neill, G Gallagher for Coughlan.

GMIT - R Hannan; C Garvey, D Vaughan, A Deacy; P McGinley, T Cunniffe, D Lee; P Conroy, C Glynn; N Darby (0-2), D Shine (0-5), S Kavanagh; J Ryan, S Griffin, M Martin (0-2). Subs: S Hughes for Martin, J Mannion for Glynn, C Boyle for Deacy, B Faherty for Kavanagh.

Ref - G Guinan (Galway).


http://www.hoganstand.com/ArticleForm.aspx?ID=107195

QuoteSigerson: CIT are A1
19 February 2009

CIT made it into the semi-finals of this year's Ulster Bank Sigerson Cup after edging out DCU by 1-15 to 0-14, after extra time, following a thrilling tie at CIT.

The deadly duo of Colm O'Neill and Daniel Goulding accounted for 1-12 of CIT's final tally but the game was slightly overshadowed by a mass brawl which broke out at the end of normal time.

CIT got off on the frontfoot from the opening whistle and were 0-5 to 0-1 in front by the 21st minute.

However DCU rallied and thanks to Cavan duo Ray Cullivan and Sean Johnston they drew levet at 0-5 apiece by half-time.

CIT once again got off the blocks the quickest and O'Neill's goal in the 37th minute had DCU trailing once again.

DCU were still trailing by 0-9 to 1-8 approaching added-on time but then Ronan Flanagan and Martin McElroy fired late points to get their side out of jail.

CIT began the first period of extra-time in the driving seat once more, hitting four points on the trot to move into a 1-12 to 0-11 lead.

DCU again worked hard to get within two points by the 75th minute but two late scores from Cork star Goulding served to book a last four place for CIT.

Cork IT - L Sheehan; A Fenton, R Carey, N Galvin; S O'Donoghue, A O'Sullivan, C O'Driscoll; S O'Hare, P O'Flynn; S McCarthy (0-1), P Kerrigan (0-1), G Sayers; D Goulding (0-7), C O'Neill (1-5), S Cahalane. Subs: J Fitzpatrick for Sayers, R Leahy (0-1) for Cahalane, C Crowley for O'Neill, O'Neill for Crowley, Cahalane for McCarthy.

DCU - M Boyle; P Andrews, C Gavin, H Gill; D Sheridan, R Flanagan (0-2), K Leahy; R Cullivan (0-3), S O'Rourke; R Maguire, M McElroy (0-1), D Kelly; C Mortimer (0-2), B Sheridan, S Johnson (0-6). Subs: K Nolan for O'Rourke, M Lyng for Maguire, C Guckian for Leahy, P Howard for Gill, D Keenan for Guckian, L Sweetman for Keenan.

Ref - M Collins (Cork).



Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on February 19, 2009, 12:45:27 PM
Quote from: LackenLegend on February 19, 2009, 10:20:14 AM
Lads this makes good reading and really sums it up: http://www.anglocelt.ie/articles/2/36258

Thanks for sharing that, it's refreshing to see a bit of real opinion in the Celt at last. Local media have been giving blow job coverage of the county team for decades, putting no spotlight on the players and their failings at all and afraid to call it like it is. A bit of pressure in the local media can help keep lads on their toes, generally speaking.
That said, I don't totally buy into all the doom and gloom and think it's too early for all this despondency. If it's this way by the end of March or so, I'll revise that opinion though.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: whats my name on February 19, 2009, 01:24:33 PM
what other cavan county players took part in the sigerson cup for their collages how did they do??????
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Zulu on February 19, 2009, 01:34:03 PM
Lads considering all this talk of booze hounds drinking their football careers away I was surprised to se so many Cavan lads on the various Sigerson teams, surely these guys aren't too fond of the sauce and they must be coming out of college with good footballing pedigrees.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on February 19, 2009, 03:36:06 PM
Quote from: Zulu on February 19, 2009, 01:34:03 PM
Lads considering all this talk of booze hounds drinking their football careers away I was surprised to se so many Cavan lads on the various Sigerson teams, surely these guys aren't too fond of the sauce and they must be coming out of college with good footballing pedigrees.

Its not really the sigerson lads that would be the problem Zulu,

all the lads who took part in the sigerson cup that i know of

Ray Galligan(Lacken) Athlone IT

Barry Watters
Dermot Sheridan
Mickey Lyng
Jelly
Ronan Flanagan
Ray Cullivan          (DCU)

Daniel Graham(Cavan Gaels)
Martin Reily (DIT)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on February 20, 2009, 11:23:40 AM
Sorry lads was away on a wee break for the last couple of days, so missed all the arguments over the dismal performance last weekend.

All I can say is, calls for Carr's head are ridiculous. I dont think many understand the size of the task on his hand. Yes, we have been really poor but Carr not only has to pick the best team - he has to change players attitudes, restore confidence in them when playing  in the blue jersey. I looked at the Sigerson Reports during the week. Plenty of Cavan lads showed well, and they always do with their clubs. But playing for Cavan is a different story. They dont believe. They are used to losing. At this stage it is almost a habit.

Nobody can turn that around in a week. Its going to take time. But maybe using more younger players instead of the likes of Brady, Fannin and Eddie who are  used to losing. Naturally youngers players are a wee bit ignorant you know?

And if we have to take one step back to go two forward then so be it. At this stage once we avoid relegation this year - we can be reasonably happy. Let the man have two years and then judge him.

He is managing a county that expects a lot but delivers very little. I am not saying I agree with all his decisions (ie. Podge at FB) but he needs to learn things about the players too.

My team for next game
James Reilly
Mickey Hannon
Rory Dunne
M Brides / D Sheridan
Barry Watters
Ronan Flanagan
Martin Cahill
Ciaran Galliigan
N Walsh
Martin Reilly
Ray Cullivan
E Keating
Jelly Johnston
D GIbney (stick with him, he is a great asset)
G Pearson
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on February 20, 2009, 11:24:47 AM
Also Tomas Reilly, D Gibney and Eugene Keating playeed Sigerson with Sligo and I am pretty sure Enda Gaffney did for DIT
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on February 20, 2009, 11:38:52 AM
You can speak for yourself.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tonesfirstandlast on February 20, 2009, 11:56:41 AM
Thastheball. One of the things which has baffled us derry ones is how Damian Cassidy was such a disaster when he took cavan, yet has been such success every where else he has been.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tonesfirstandlast on February 20, 2009, 01:52:36 PM
Quote from: Thastheball on February 20, 2009, 12:06:42 PM
Quote from: tonesfirstandlast on February 20, 2009, 11:56:41 AM
Thastheball. One of the things which has baffled us derry ones is how Damian Cassidy was such a disaster when he took cavan, yet has been such success every where else he has been.

he wasn't the manager, and that essentially was the problem. I was part of the panel at that time. Martin Mc Elkennon was the manager, and Cassidy did the coaching, and that was the order. Typical of our county board to make a balls of that. We all knew it was back to front, but that was how it was! But to be frank with you, our players are not good enough, as Sundays result has shown once again.

Are you saying that damian was a bad coach or that McElkennon a bad manager or both?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on February 20, 2009, 03:12:54 PM
Quote from: Thastheball on February 20, 2009, 02:28:15 PM
I'm saying that their roles were messed up. A coach who was the manager and a manager who was the coach. Only in Cavan, imagine having two of the best in Ulster at their respectives jobs and our county board messes it up. where else would it happen

Tragic when you put it that way all right. Kind of obvious question though, given that they are two of the best in the game in their proper roles, did they ever think of just putting their heads togehter and both doing what they were best at, regardless of the job title?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tonesfirstandlast on February 20, 2009, 03:19:00 PM
Quote from: anglocelt39 on February 20, 2009, 03:12:54 PM
Quote from: Thastheball on February 20, 2009, 02:28:15 PM
I'm saying that their roles were messed up. A coach who was the manager and a manager who was the coach. Only in Cavan, imagine having two of the best in Ulster at their respectives jobs and our county board messes it up. where else would it happen

Tragic when you put it that way all right. Kind of obvious question though, given that they are two of the best in the game in their proper roles, did they ever think of just putting their heads togehter and both doing what they were best at, regardless of the job title?

You would have thought that. two men of their calibre and experience, you would think that they would have said, irrespective opf our job titles, let's do this our way. Would there not be a serious cross over of the skills involved in each role?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on February 20, 2009, 06:02:25 PM
Welcome back to the board TTB, your insights have been missed.

as for a team the next day, its too soon to be asking Michael Hannon to start a game in my opinion, he doesnt have the amount of training behind him,most others do.
Better to keep our best defender(in my opinion) out until hes 100%

Put it up

Barry Watters
Ronan Flanagan
Martin Cahill, That is a fairly light half back line, i would imagine Johnny Crowe or Podge would be in there to give it a bit of power.

Full Back come the championship will be Michael Hannon id imagine, Podge and Dunne just dont have the burst of speed at IC level for the position.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on February 20, 2009, 06:21:04 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on February 20, 2009, 06:02:25 PM
Welcome back to the board TTB, your insights have been missed.

as for a team the next day, its too soon to be asking Michael Hannon to start a game in my opinion, he doesnt have the amount of training behind him,most others do.
Better to keep our best defender(in my opinion) out until hes 100%

Put it up

Barry Watters
Ronan Flanagan
Martin Cahill, That is a fairly light half back line, i would imagine Johnny Crowe or Podge would be in there to give it a bit of power.

Full Back come the championship will be Michael Hannon id imagine, Podge and Dunne just dont have the burst of speed at IC level for the position.

I think Watters is struggling with a groin injury and is going to need a operation.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on February 20, 2009, 06:23:42 PM
I really don't see it but a lot of people seem to think that Michael Hannon is our best defender... Where has that come from?? I can't remember him playing well on any of the opposite's dangerman in a long time...

Again don't know where Barry Waters comes from either, still very young and very light for this level.  And he isn't actually a good defender, I'm not saying he isn't good on the ball and going forward but that's not what half back is all about at all
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: whats my name on February 20, 2009, 08:24:38 PM
i think put it up has a good team there the only way cavan are goin 2 make an impact in the next few years is by sticking with the younger lads on the panel like watters keating,dunne,givney the should be getting reagular football at inter county level thats the only way cavan will be able to compete with the power houses of ulster football in the next few years!!!!

and on another note sean brady why is he still on the county panel he has only played with castlerahan twice in the last three years you wouldnt see that on any county panel in the country he has not merited a place on the county panel i know he is injured alot and thats whats holding him back from playing but by him being in there and not being fit to play he is keeping another good footballer of the current county i.e anton reilly different position but well fit for county football from what we seen in the mckenna cup i know where talking gaa here but in soccer if a player has only played that much in a three year spell he would be let go
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: whats my name on February 20, 2009, 08:30:14 PM
i dont think watters is struggling with an injury cavan4ever he played a full u-21 game against fermanagh at the weekend was at it he played very well as did rory dunne
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on February 20, 2009, 10:05:31 PM
Quote from: whats my name on February 20, 2009, 08:30:14 PM
i dont think watters is struggling with an injury cavan4ever he played a full u-21 game against fermanagh at the weekend was at it he played very well as did rory dunne

Maybe not but thats what im being told.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on February 21, 2009, 02:51:47 PM
Thatstheball - how do you think the players will react after the widespread criticism of their performance against Tipp? Will we get a big effort against Down or will it be more of the same.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on February 21, 2009, 03:18:49 PM
I hope they do. A win against Down could really lift our season and get us going again. Some of our players put in great performances in the Sigerson Cup last week. Martion Reilly scored 2-3 for DIT. Seanie Johnstone 0-6 for DCU. Cullivan got 0-3 and Flanagan got a point or two. It is hard to see why we don't get the same level of performance from our players in Cavan jerseys. I do believe the blanket defences in the last 2 games are posing major problems for our smaller players.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: descartes on February 21, 2009, 04:58:06 PM

QuoteSome of our players put in great performances in the Sigerson Cup last week. Martion Reilly scored 2-3 for DIT. Seanie Johnstone 0-6 for DCU. Cullivan got 0-3 and Flanagan got a point or two.

its good to see so many of the cavan lads doing well at this level. a brother of one of the dublin lads on the DIT panel was asking me about hannon... came as news to me but apparently he is over them? good to see that too.


anyway, based on the polar opinions of these two, Ballyhaiseman Vs Celt_Man

QuotePosted on: February 20, 2009, 06:02:25 PMPosted by: BallyhaiseMan

Full Back come the championship will be Michael Hannon id imagine, Podge and Dunne just dont have the burst of speed at IC level for the position.

QuotePosted on: February 20, 2009, 06:23:42 PMPosted by: Celt_Man
I really don't see it but a lot of people seem to think that Michael Hannon is our best defender... Where has that come from??


it got me thinking... if you could only pick 1 defender on the cavan panel to play in the full back line... who would you pick?
now i know i've already said that Sheridan and Hannon should be in the fullback line come championship but that was based on them having great games and a very good partnership in the qualifier match against kildare, if i could only pick one sheridan would probably lose out based on his relative lack of experience, but i really think this guy could be our francie bellew in a few years. and i mean that as a compliment, He's not the best player in the world but from what i've heard his attitude is top class. Francie didnt really start playing intercounty untill he was 25/26 so b4 anyone starts hounding on about this being ridiculous give sheridan time to develop.


so BHman, Celt_Man et al? lets be having it from you??  will anyone pick podge i wonder?  ;)


and just to finish off, the calls for tommy carr to go are ridiculous. 2 games? if you were an intercounty manager how much time with your panel do you think you should be given before getting the chop, and no the Mckenna cup dont count since the college based lads are not around!!!

give the man a chance, even keoghan got 2 years ffs!!!!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on February 21, 2009, 05:55:03 PM
lads i have a lot of time for Mickey Hannon. I think he has been hung out to dry in the past by been given the sole responsability of say Benny Coulter but In my opinion he will be corner back. The reason I included Rory Dunne is simple - he is fantastic in the air. He is calm and has a great pair of hands. He struggles though, when asked to be a more typical corner back. if asked to follow his man left right and centre, he can be punished. But use the fella's strengths and let him take control of the skies.

Again anyone know where Eamon Reilyl went too?He would give us an anchor at centre back.

Watters does not need an operation - immediately anyway, he played a full game last week with the U21's

I think the U21s need to step up to the plate this year. If they show they are good enough for senior level, let 6 or so of them into the team to freshen things up. I dont think are problem is having poor players. Just too many players at the same average level
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on February 21, 2009, 08:55:03 PM
Quote from: Celt_Man on February 20, 2009, 06:23:42 PM
I really don't see it but a lot of people seem to think that Michael Hannon is our best defender... Where has that come from?? I can't remember him playing well on any of the opposite's dangerman in a long time...

Again don't know where Barry Waters comes from either, still very young and very light for this level.  And he isn't actually a good defender, I'm not saying he isn't good on the ball and going forward but that's not what half back is all about at all

he got a roasting from Coulter in Casement in McElkennons last year fair enough

Coulter scored 2 goals on Paul Brady the next year in Breffini when we were under Keoghan/Grimley, Michael Hannon switched over onto him and kept him quiet,
Hannon also kept him quiet in the replay in Newry where Coulter had next to no impact.
I believe he is the best defender we have.
He also done a good job on StevieMac last year against Armagh.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on February 21, 2009, 08:57:57 PM
Quote from: descartes on February 21, 2009, 04:58:06 PM

QuoteSome of our players put in great performances in the Sigerson Cup last week. Martion Reilly scored 2-3 for DIT. Seanie Johnstone 0-6 for DCU. Cullivan got 0-3 and Flanagan got a point or two.

its good to see so many of the cavan lads doing well at this level. a brother of one of the dublin lads on the DIT panel was asking me about hannon... came as news to me but apparently he is over them? good to see that too.


anyway, based on the polar opinions of these two, Ballyhaiseman Vs Celt_Man

QuotePosted on: February 20, 2009, 06:02:25 PMPosted by: BallyhaiseMan

Full Back come the championship will be Michael Hannon id imagine, Podge and Dunne just dont have the burst of speed at IC level for the position.

QuotePosted on: February 20, 2009, 06:23:42 PMPosted by: Celt_Man
I really don't see it but a lot of people seem to think that Michael Hannon is our best defender... Where has that come from??


it got me thinking... if you could only pick 1 defender on the cavan panel to play in the full back line... who would you pick?
now i know i've already said that Sheridan and Hannon should be in the fullback line come championship but that was based on them having great games and a very good partnership in the qualifier match against kildare, if i could only pick one sheridan would probably lose out based on his relative lack of experience, but i really think this guy could be our francie bellew in a few years. and i mean that as a compliment, He's not the best player in the world but from what i've heard his attitude is top class. Francie didnt really start playing intercounty untill he was 25/26 so b4 anyone starts hounding on about this being ridiculous give sheridan time to develop.


so BHman, Celt_Man et al? lets be having it from you??  will anyone pick podge i wonder?  ;)


and just to finish off, the calls for tommy carr to go are ridiculous. 2 games? if you were an intercounty manager how much time with your panel do you think you should be given before getting the chop, and no the Mckenna cup dont count since the college based lads are not around!!!

give the man a chance, even keoghan got 2 years ffs!!!!

Big fan of Dermot Sheridan, hes a typical Mullahoran player,Tough,Resiliant, a good defender,good marker and has good ability aswell.

Michael Hannon, A N Other ,Dermot Sheridan             would be my first choice full backline
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on February 22, 2009, 06:58:25 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on February 21, 2009, 03:18:49 PM
I hope they do. A win against Down could really lift our season and get us going again. Some of our players put in great performances in the Sigerson Cup last week. Martion Reilly scored 2-3 for DIT. Seanie Johnstone 0-6 for DCU. Cullivan got 0-3 and Flanagan got a point or two. It is hard to see why we don't get the same level of performance from our players in Cavan jerseys. I do believe the blanket defences in the last 2 games are posing major problems for our smaller players.


?????? blanket defence from Tipperary. I didn't see it Myles. No need for it as they had no interest in the ball.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on February 23, 2009, 05:37:36 PM
Quote from: put-it-up on February 23, 2009, 05:30:38 PM
Heard the Seniors beat the U21's at the weekend in Breffni.

Wasn't at it myself but I was told by one of the players that Walsh was very effective at full-forward, Lyng was creative at CF and McCabe was back too. Dermot Sheridan was meant to have done very well of Givney. Oh an James Reilly appeared as well.

The U21's are still not a settled team. Cullivan and Dane O'Dowd were missing. Keeper made a couple of saves and Rory Dunne did ok on Walsh but was left far too exposed. Other than that it was a battling performance with no stand out performances.



we are playing Armagh 18th of march the day after Cross play in the club final, Cross have 6 members of the under 21 team in their ranks,
you couldnt get Armagh at a better time, and id be very disappointed if we didnt beat them. it was said before but id much prefer a seperate manager for the under 21's someone who could devote their entire time from November-May to them.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: the salmon of knowledge on February 23, 2009, 06:57:24 PM
put it up, dunno where you get ur info, but sheridan could not have linked up well with givney, seeing as givney was playing for mountnugent at the weekend :P
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on February 23, 2009, 07:14:01 PM
Quote from: the salmon of knowledge on February 23, 2009, 06:57:24 PM
put it up, dunno where you get ur info, but sheridan could not have linked up well with givney, seeing as givney was playing for mountnugent at the weekend :P

All weekend? 

He must be tired and Sheridan was marking him.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on February 24, 2009, 10:49:11 AM
Quote from: RednBlack on February 24, 2009, 08:05:28 AM
Quote from: cavan4ever on February 23, 2009, 07:14:01 PM
Quote from: the salmon of knowledge on February 23, 2009, 06:57:24 PM
put it up, dunno where you get ur info, but sheridan could not have linked up well with givney, seeing as givney was playing for mountnugent at the weekend :P

All weekend? 

He must be tired and Sheridan was marking him.

Spot on Cavan4ever. Givney was out performed by Sheridan. The young lad has potential but needs a lot of work done. Was told Walsh did well at FF bagging 3 goals. No sign of Seanie. Heard he had a spot of bother in Dublin last week after the DCU game. Dermot McCabe back at midfield.

I reckon it would be hard to coach the basics of the game to 19/20 year old. 
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Drung on February 24, 2009, 11:33:05 AM
Do you think Givney hasn't mastered the basics, like catching and kicking?
I think he has unreal hands and he kicked some amazing scores in the Junior Championship last year.
We would be glad of him C4E, would you not agree? Him and O'Rourke in the full forward line...!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on February 24, 2009, 11:48:13 AM
From what im seen of him for Cavan this year all he can do is catch. 

He can't pass and he took some wild shots against Longford and there still looking for the balls, he isnt winning balls in front of him that he should be. 

I only seen him once last year in the Junior Final  and he fielded some lovely ball and kicked some good scores but he still lost out on a lot of ball he should have being winning. 

The above rant has nothing to do with the fact i hate Mountnugent.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Drung on February 24, 2009, 12:23:09 PM
I think he scored something crazy like 8-21 in the Junior last year.
Must have headed the goals and fisted the points so.
He kicked two massive points in the second half of the junior final, did you miss them?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on February 24, 2009, 12:42:42 PM
Quote from: Drung on February 24, 2009, 12:23:09 PM
I think he scored something crazy like 8-21 in the Junior last year.
Must have headed the goals and fisted the points so.
He kicked two massive points in the second half of the junior final, did you miss them?

Against poor teams i dont want to be putting the lad down he is a good Junior footballer but i dont think he would cut it at a higher level his reactions are very slow.

I hope he proves me wrong in the blue of Cavan but cant see it happening.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on February 24, 2009, 12:53:02 PM
Quote from: cavan4ever on February 24, 2009, 11:48:13 AM
From what im seen of him for Cavan this year all he can do is catch. 

He can't pass and he took some wild shots against Longford and there still looking for the balls, he isnt winning balls in front of him that he should be. 

I only seen him once last year in the Junior Final  and he fielded some lovely ball and kicked some good scores but he still lost out on a lot of ball he should have being winning. 

The above rant has nothing to do with the fact i hate Mountnugent.



Givney has potential but in fairness to any full forward in the land, you always limit the damage he can do when both corner forwards don't stand within an asses roar of him.

Anyone hear the latest about the County junior team? Apparently it is up and running, it seems that Tierney, Anton and Ronan Reilly have kinda been pushed over to that without any word for the senior management.  Heard that one lad appeared for training in dublin to find out it was cancelled and then came down on Friday night to find out training had been on the night before. Talk about being cut out of the loop.  If that happen in the club, there would be an uproar and rightly so.  It starting to reel of a bit of a shambles but in fairness that could be an isolated incident (which happened twice!!!) so I won't break down in despair just yet..

Heard a few names mentioned for the juniors -  Tierney, Anton, Ronan Reilly, darren smith and sean maguire from lavey, ted smith, donal thomas and padraig cahill from killygarry, declan gaffney.
I think they pretty much have games for the next couple of weeks where possible with Louth in the Leinster Junior championship in 4 or 5 weeks, Terry Hyland is over them it seems so sounds like it is being run right, unlike the senior set up, remember with a bit of luck Cavan could have beaten Dublin last year.  A dublin side that went on to win the All-Ireland
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on February 24, 2009, 12:57:02 PM
They beat the Gaels in a challenge game on Saturday.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on February 24, 2009, 01:35:02 PM
Quote from: cavan4ever on February 24, 2009, 12:42:42 PM
Quote from: Drung on February 24, 2009, 12:23:09 PM
I think he scored something crazy like 8-21 in the Junior last year.
Must have headed the goals and fisted the points so.
He kicked two massive points in the second half of the junior final, did you miss them?

Against poor teams i dont want to be putting the lad down he is a good Junior footballer but i dont think he would cut it at a higher level his reactions are very slow.

I hope he proves me wrong in the blue of Cavan but cant see it happening.
Lads, I'm all for developing the game at inter-county level but does anyone think that again the clubs are likely to lose out? We have the usual number of league games where the senior county players aren't available. We're used to that. But with the leagues starting up this weekend I'm now hearing that we have a panel for the Cavan Junior team. I'm not sure about Sigerson but I know there are Trench Cup games on this weekend which will deprive clubs of players. And to top it off I've spoken to someone who is playing football for their employer in the All-Ireland inter-firms tournament.
We hear all about burn-out, too many games etc. and here we have limited companies travelling the country to play games.
Any views?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Drung on February 24, 2009, 01:55:21 PM
QuoteCoulter scored 2 goals on Paul Brady the next year in Breffini when we were under Keoghan/Grimley, Michael Hannon switched over onto him and kept him quiet,
.

Your memory is playing tricks BallyhaiseMan.
Coulter scored one goal on Brady, who was then switched to the wing, and he got another and a couple of points on Hannon...

QuoteHe also done a good job on StevieMac last year against Armagh

And again... A quick trawl online shows that McDonnell scored (0-6, 0-2 frees), 0-1 "45" in that game. 0-3 from play and conceding a couple of frees is poor enough in my opinion.

QuoteHannon also kept him quiet in the replay in Newry where Coulter had next to no impact.


You're right there!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: the salmon of knowledge on February 24, 2009, 02:11:46 PM
you seem to know your ball pretty well C4E so i will overlook the snipe at mountnugent, cause as you say, it has nothing to do with givney waering a blue shirt.
i am not just standing up for him cause he is a club man, but in all fairness when the lad wins one of those big high balls, surley the inside forwards should be queing to take the ball off him, but against longford and tipp there was nobody there... nobody can deny this surely!!! eddie was the only lad who looked to play off him and they took him off wrongly in both games, in my opinion, seeing also that he was the only one really trying to hassle the backs coming out with the ball!!
in the games leading up to the league, gumley was working well with givney but things have turned out unfortunately for him.
but as for the statement about givney not having mastered the basics... well, if he can score 7-17 in a championship run without the basics, cant wait to see him when he does
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on February 24, 2009, 02:27:55 PM
Quote from: the salmon of knowledge on February 24, 2009, 02:11:46 PM
you seem to know your ball pretty well C4E so i will overlook the snipe at mountnugent, cause as you say, it has nothing to do with givney waering a blue shirt.
i am not just standing up for him cause he is a club man, but in all fairness when the lad wins one of those big high balls, surley the inside forwards should be queing to take the ball off him, but against longford and tipp there was nobody there... nobody can deny this surely!!! eddie was the only lad who looked to play off him and they took him off wrongly in both games, in my opinion, seeing also that he was the only one really trying to hassle the backs coming out with the ball!!
in the games leading up to the league, gumley was working well with givney but things have turned out unfortunately for him.
but as for the statement about givney not having mastered the basics... well, if he can score 7-17 in a championship run without the basics, cant wait to see him when he does

Ive only got my disliking for Mountnugent from the weekend.

I am just going on from what i have seen from him in a Blue Jersey.  Yes he scored 7-17 or 10-27 in the junior championship and that was a great achievement.  How many other counties in ulster would he get playing for at number 14, a good full forward shouldnt need players running off them they should be fit to beat their man and get some of their own scores.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on February 24, 2009, 02:37:47 PM
Yea in fairness I think it was a wee bit over the top to say Givney hasn't mastered the basics... I think the best word to describe him is raw and I mean that in a good way.  Like anything raw, he will be what you make of him.  He is a big man and that already puts defenders on edge and in fairness at the Longford he won a handful of balls cleanly while the longford full back to my memory never one clean at all - I'm disregarding the few that the FB outpaced him for, anyone can see Givney isn't the quickest so the solution is don't give him a ball where he has to rely on speed.  Bascially what I'm saying is going by the Longford game (wasn't at Tipp game) Givney will guarntee you some clean ball and a fair few breaks around the square so it's up to the corner forwards and to a lesser extend wing forwards to get in and get those breaks like their life depending on it (i.e. showing a bit of hunger)

Quote from: RednBlack on February 24, 2009, 08:05:28 AM
No sign of Seanie. Heard he had a spot of bother in Dublin last week after the DCU game.

What does that mean??

By the by, were anyone of you at the coaching conference on Saturday in the Kilmore?  I thought it was a interesting enough day, some of the presentations were more relevant than others but I took a lot from it all the same
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: whats my name on February 24, 2009, 05:32:04 PM
i think celt man is right with what he said how many balls did givney break in the tipperary game and no one was around to make use of the breaking ball he is a very good player and its going to take time to get used to the inter-county senior game but he definitly has a future in the cavan jersey and tommy carr said in the post or maybe the celt that givney was a huge asset at full forward and that he was a star in the making!!!! he would be better then mc cabe in there hes far more agile and he doesnt look like he has a 40ft trailer attached to him when he is trying 2 turn!!!!!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on February 24, 2009, 05:53:32 PM
Quote from: Drung on February 24, 2009, 01:55:21 PM
QuoteCoulter scored 2 goals on Paul Brady the next year in Breffini when we were under Keoghan/Grimley, Michael Hannon switched over onto him and kept him quiet,
.

Your memory is playing tricks BallyhaiseMan.
Coulter scored one goal on Brady, who was then switched to the wing, and he got another and a couple of points on Hannon...

QuoteHe also done a good job on StevieMac last year against Armagh

And again... A quick trawl online shows that McDonnell scored (0-6, 0-2 frees), 0-1 "45" in that game. 0-3 from play and conceding a couple of frees is poor enough in my opinion.

QuoteHannon also kept him quiet in the replay in Newry where Coulter had next to no impact.


You're right there!

Sorry Drung,i have to say i disagree, Coulter scored both goals on Gunner that day,i remember it well because i thought beforehand,Gunner would be well fit to compete with Coulter in the air,but he was taken to the cleaners.
Hannon then switched in on him, and while Coulter did see alot less ball after that, Hannon stuck a lot tighter.
He did of course take Coulter completely out of the game in the replay.

as for the Armagh match, its hard to blame any backs for conceding frees and scores from play
when Paul McGrane and KieranToner won about 65% of the ball at midfield,
Hannon done as good a job on McDonnell as anyone considering the circumstances.

I think hes the best man marker we have, with Dermot Sheridan the next best.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on February 24, 2009, 07:52:08 PM
Quote from: cavan4ever on February 24, 2009, 02:27:55 PM
Quote from: the salmon of knowledge on February 24, 2009, 02:11:46 PM
you seem to know your ball pretty well C4E so i will overlook the snipe at mountnugent, cause as you say, it has nothing to do with givney waering a blue shirt.
i am not just standing up for him cause he is a club man, but in all fairness when the lad wins one of those big high balls, surley the inside forwards should be queing to take the ball off him, but against longford and tipp there was nobody there... nobody can deny this surely!!! eddie was the only lad who looked to play off him and they took him off wrongly in both games, in my opinion, seeing also that he was the only one really trying to hassle the backs coming out with the ball!!
in the games leading up to the league, gumley was working well with givney but things have turned out unfortunately for him.
but as for the statement about givney not having mastered the basics... well, if he can score 7-17 in a championship run without the basics, cant wait to see him when he does

Ive only got my disliking for Mountnugent from the weekend.

I am just going on from what i have seen from him in a Blue Jersey.  Yes he scored 7-17 or 10-27 in the junior championship and that was a great achievement.  How many other counties in ulster would he get playing for at number 14, a good full forward shouldnt need players running off them they should be fit to beat their man and get some of their own scores.

I don't agree with what you say there really and it is also a trait that you see throughout the county clubs and county senior panel. The days of giving the ball to a man and waiting for him to best his man and score are long gone. Todays game is about the FF line playing as a unit, making space for each other, running off each other and taking the ball at speed from each other. Cavan are chronic at this and have been for years. Was at the Longford game and Givney won lots of ball in dangerous positions, turned looking to lay it off and there was no one coming anyhwere near him. He even managed to hold the ball up a bit and still no support arrived. Eventually he lost the ball or got pulled for a foul. I would say 80% of the time that was the fault of his fellow forwards or management tactics, the other 20% were his mistakes mostly down to a little lack of sharpness and lack of experience. I think he is only 19 and I expect to see him do well for Cavan in the future.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on February 24, 2009, 08:25:53 PM
Ronan Clarke and Sean Cavanagh dont wait to be done for over carrying waiting to pass to someone when they get the ball.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on February 24, 2009, 08:37:47 PM
2 perfect examples. Both make way more scores than they take themselves. Armagh especially are masters of the FF line working as a unit. You don't think you are being a bit harsh critising a 19 year old, used to playing jnr football in his first season as an inter county player? We can't have it both ways in demanding new players are tried and then bemoaning the fact that they are not good enough. We have no choice but to work with these lads and try and bring them along.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on February 24, 2009, 09:21:56 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on February 24, 2009, 08:37:47 PM
2 perfect examples. Both make way more scores than they take themselves. Armagh especially are masters of the FF line working as a unit. You don't think you are being a bit harsh critising a 19 year old, used to playing jnr football in his first season as an inter county player? We can't have it both ways in demanding new players are tried and then bemoaning the fact that they are not good enough. We have no choice but to work with these lads and try and bring them along.

Thats the problem he is to used to having all day on the ball playing junior football.  Yes i may be harsh but its my opinion and i hope he proves me wrong.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on February 24, 2009, 10:07:43 PM
Delighted to see this Givney lad get a chance-bit of size, ability to catch a ball allied to some scoring power isn't something we seem to have a lot of in the county this few years. We must allow him, surely, 2 or three years to realise his potential given that he's 19 years old and playing junior football at the moment. He may not even make it onto the championship team but a prolonged run in the league might bring him on a lot. Remember Pierce McKenna-we took him out of junior football and he looked that for 2/3 years, we persisted with him and he didn't work out too bad at all. It took Anthony Forde one heck of a long time to settle into a defensive role on the County Seniors (he got there in the end although I think he would have been a really top class half forward in a county that wasn't so desperately stuck, or so it seemed) for defenders. Looking at the small ball code, Dan Shanahan would never have made it to year 3 for Waterford if certain supporters had their way, by year 10 he was hurler of the year.

Keogan got absolutely lambasted, and quite rightly, for giving lads a "chance" and then dispensing with them after 20 or 30 minutes, hope we can learn from that. A final thought on the topic, we've given Ger Pierson a fair few chances over the past 6 years, hopefully this is the year he shows what he can do.

What was the story about Jelly in today's indo, denying he had quit the county panel, hopefully nothing more than a bit of a blow out after what was a disappointing week at colleges level.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: the salmon of knowledge on February 25, 2009, 12:48:23 AM
please fill us in on why mountnugent has you in a tizzy since the weekend C4E??
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on February 25, 2009, 02:21:43 AM
C4ever were you fighting some mountain men from mountnugent at the weekend? :P Tough shower up that part of the country  ;D  ;)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on February 25, 2009, 08:06:52 AM
Quote from: the salmon of knowledge on February 25, 2009, 12:48:23 AM
please fill us in on why mountnugent has you in a tizzy since the weekend C4E??
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on February 25, 2009, 02:21:43 AM
C4ever were you fighting some mountain men from mountnugent at the weekend? :P Tough shower up that part of the country  ;D  ;)

I heard the abuse that some of them were dishing out to one of my fellow clubmen at the Tipperary game, i'd say alot of them were never at County game before until this year.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on February 25, 2009, 10:19:22 AM
Theres nothing worse than going to a match and having to listen to imbeciles roaring garbage beside you. I expect they were demanding that our players stop "pricking around with the ball" i.e. Handpass and "Let it in the fu*k", code for drive the ball as high and long as possible in the general direction of the goal.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on February 25, 2009, 10:25:50 AM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on February 25, 2009, 10:19:22 AM
Theres nothing worse than going to a match and having to listen to imbeciles roaring garbage beside you. I expect they were demanding that our players stop "pricking around with the ball" i.e. Handpass and "Let it in the f**k", code for drive the ball as high and long as possible in the general direction of the goal.

No it was nothing like that.

Who all is going to Newry on Saturday evening?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Drung on February 25, 2009, 11:28:23 AM
QuoteSorry Drung,i have to say i disagree, Coulter scored both goals on Gunner that day,i remember it well

You obviously don't remember it that well because Coulter only scored one goal that day...

http://www.independent.ie/sport/other-sports/cavan-smash-and-grab-669705.html

Embarrassing.

What else do you remember well, as a matter of interest??!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on February 25, 2009, 11:31:27 AM
Quote from: cavan4ever on February 25, 2009, 10:25:50 AM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on February 25, 2009, 10:19:22 AM
Theres nothing worse than going to a match and having to listen to imbeciles roaring garbage beside you. I expect they were demanding that our players stop "pricking around with the ball" i.e. Handpass and "Let it in the f**k", code for drive the ball as high and long as possible in the general direction of the goal.

No it was nothing like that.

Who all is going to Newry on Saturday evening?

No one I hope, it's not till the following Saturday night the 7th March.
I would hazard a guess at what they were roaring at Galligan was it?  I don;t mind people giving out about the play, "ah he shouldn't have passed it etc" but I don't understand why they have to get personal.  I have gotten into more than one "exchange of views" with other cavan "fans" when they said stuff that cut particularly close to the bone, and it wasn't about any of my clubmen either.  
Having said all that I wouldn't hold it against the club that person was from, after all there's gobshites in every club. Yes even my own, look at the minor board chairman ;)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on February 25, 2009, 11:51:14 AM
Any truth in what I heard about a bit of trouble at your Minor game at the weekend Celt_Man a few red cards and game blown up early?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on February 25, 2009, 12:09:19 PM
Quote from: cavan4ever on February 25, 2009, 11:51:14 AM
Any truth in what I heard about a bit of trouble at your Minor game at the weekend Celt_Man a few red cards and game blown up early?

Yea unfortunately it's true and even more that I wasn't at it... Oh the trouble we have had getting a minor team this year, first of all we really do only have 13 or 14 players and the county board - in all their wisdom - put us in division 2 so we had to fight to get out of that and into division 4 where we have been hammered in both games so far. 
I heard that there was a nasty enough undercurrent to the whole game, it was the second half and we were getting well beaten, think we had 4 points, ballymachugh maybe 3 -9 or something like that. One of our players was through on goal but got taken out with a two footed lunge from behind!!! so our boy pushed the guy that tackled him and then some other ballymachugh boy came in and punched our player and away yer go.... I think 5 saw red, 2 cootehill and 3 of their boys, one of our lads had to get stitches in his face where he was opened - one of their boys seemingly was wearing a ring.... I am told the ref wanted to start the game again but another fight broke out beside him and he had enough and lifted the ball... so overall it's a bit of clusterf**k
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on February 25, 2009, 02:17:57 PM
How can a town the size of cootehill struggle to field a minor team?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on February 25, 2009, 02:34:30 PM
Ha I knew that one was coming.... Because it's not that big of a town, with a very small catchment area.  For example, less than a mile from the pitch (which is the center of town) you have people playing from rockcorry and latton, kill, drumgoon and drung.  This years minor team at under 14 level four years ago only had 18 players two of which were girls.  Sure look at Fannin, he lives in the main estate in the tow but yet he plays for drumgoon. 
And as well as one of our minor players transferred to Kill this year too and another player U16 transferred to Drumgoon.
The numbers in the national school aren't as big as they were when I was at school there either.  When I was in 6th class, there was 35 in the class now I think the average is 16/17 so that doesn't help either.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on February 25, 2009, 04:27:22 PM
Quote from: Drung on February 25, 2009, 11:28:23 AM
QuoteSorry Drung,i have to say i disagree, Coulter scored both goals on Gunner that day,i remember it well

You obviously don't remember it that well because Coulter only scored one goal that day...

http://www.independent.ie/sport/other-sports/cavan-smash-and-grab-669705.html

Embarrassing.

What else do you remember well, as a matter of interest??!

Yes im very embarrassed indeed, i should remember every single detail from every match that ive been to since i was 6 or 7,averaging about 5 league games and every championship game every year. Grow up Drung  :D

"Michael Hannon provided the solution. Coulter was far less accurate and dangerous once he was switched onto him after 21 minutes and, under pressure, shot three wides in the second half." Nice quote there, Seems like Hannon didnt do such a bad job.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on February 25, 2009, 04:30:37 PM
Quote from: Celt_Man on February 25, 2009, 12:09:19 PM
Quote from: cavan4ever on February 25, 2009, 11:51:14 AM
Any truth in what I heard about a bit of trouble at your Minor game at the weekend Celt_Man a few red cards and game blown up early?

Yea unfortunately it's true and even more that I wasn't at it... Oh the trouble we have had getting a minor team this year, first of all we really do only have 13 or 14 players and the county board - in all their wisdom - put us in division 2 so we had to fight to get out of that and into division 4 where we have been hammered in both games so far. 
I heard that there was a nasty enough undercurrent to the whole game, it was the second half and we were getting well beaten, think we had 4 points, ballymachugh maybe 3 -9 or something like that. One of our players was through on goal but got taken out with a two footed lunge from behind!!! so our boy pushed the guy that tackled him and then some other ballymachugh boy came in and punched our player and away yer go.... I think 5 saw red, 2 cootehill and 3 of their boys, one of our lads had to get stitches in his face where he was opened - one of their boys seemingly was wearing a ring.... I am told the ref wanted to start the game again but another fight broke out beside him and he had enough and lifted the ball... so overall it's a bit of clusterf**k

i think any of us who have played Ballymachugh before,would know they arent  the most civilised individuals that ever stepped onto a football field.
Worst supporters for abuse i ever came across at underage level.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: descartes on February 25, 2009, 04:43:01 PM
QuoteSorry Drung,i have to say i disagree, Coulter scored both goals on Gunner that day,i remember it well

QuoteYou obviously don't remember it that well because Coulter only scored one goal that day...

http://www.independent.ie/sport/other-sports/cavan-smash-and-grab-669705.html

Embarrassing.

What else do you remember well, as a matter of interest??!


Coulter scored one goal on Brady, set up another goal a few minutes later, and had set up a goal chance a few seconds earlier that was badly missed by daniel hughes... this all in the first 2o mins or so

heres a quote from that article

QuoteCavan were guiltier of even wilder shooting from further out, with 9 to 6 wides by the break, but their big worry was one which has bamboozled many a team: how to stop the brilliant Coulter?

Michael Hannon provided the solution. Coulter was far less accurate and dangerous once he was switched onto him after 21 minutes and, under pressure, shot three wides in the second half.

and here are the cavan players ratings from that same article


CAVAN -  J Reilly 7; P Brady 5. E O'Reilly 6, M Cahill 6; M Hannon 8, A Ford 6, R Flanagan 6; D McCabe 9, L Mulvey 5; R Cullivan 6, M McKeever 6, L Reilly 7; J O'Reilly 6, G Pierson 8, S Johnston 7.  Subs: M Lyng 8 for Cullivan (42 mins), C Mackey 7 for Johnston (50), N Walsh 6 for Mulvey (55), S Brady 7 for Pierson ( 61), J Crowe 7 for Brady (63).


so according to the paper he was, along with lyng who was a second half substitute and pierson, cavans best player after dermot mcCabe that day.

you obviously dont like the guy celt_man. is this a cootehill v drumgoon tribal thing? Steven McDonnell is armagh free taker, he takes the frees regardless of who gets fouled, so now you're blaming him for all the fouls that get committed? i always thought that was one of hannons best attributes, that he doesnt give up frees...

and in light of what i've found out about how he's been playing injured for the last 2-3 years requiring a couple of operations to fix the problem i only have more respect for the man.

you still never came up with an alternaitve Celt_Man???

Cavan have to play sheridan full back, and give him 4-5 games to get comfortable in there, hannon beside him when he's fit and recovered, and then depending on the opposition Either brides or Dunne will slot in.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on February 25, 2009, 05:05:56 PM
Quote from: descartes on February 25, 2009, 04:43:01 PM

so according to the paper he was, along with lyng who was a second half substitute and pierson, cavans best player after dermot mcCabe that day.

you obviously dont like the guy celt_man. is this a cootehill v drumgoon tribal thing? Steven McDonnell is armagh free taker, he takes the frees regardless of who gets fouled, so now you're blaming him for all the fouls that get committed? i always thought that was one of hannons best attributes, that he doesnt give up frees...

and in light of what i've found out about how he's been playing injured for the last 2-3 years requiring a couple of operations to fix the problem i only have more respect for the man.

you still never came up with an alternaitve Celt_Man???

Cavan have to play sheridan full back, and give him 4-5 games to get comfortable in there, hannon beside him when he's fit and recovered, and then depending on the opposition Either brides or Dunne will slot in.

Ahh here, go handy, that's a bit of a leap... I said I don't know where it keeps coming that he is our best man marker and you reckon I don't like him... I never even said that he shouldn't be on the team, it's just I hate this business of AN other (anyone not specifically Hannon) has the name of being our best forward or best defender or "I remember one day he played and he was unstoppable" etc etc - basically giving someone a tag and then regardless of how he plays after that, he has this tag and thats what everyone refers to.

Then you reckon I'm blaming him for McDonnell putting over frees, again a bit of a stretch... I never mentioned anything of the sort. I remember the Armagh game very well last year and Hannon didn;t do very well on him at all for several reasons among them his groin problem definitely hampered him as well as recovering from being sick or a head injury or something like that plus the fact that Armagh had a unbelievable amount of possession in the middle of the field so the pressure was almost relentless.

It has nothing to do with a Cootehill Drumgoon thing, I always thought Fannin had a very rough ride last year, couldn't understand why he was being left out in the cold and I would even say that I think Fannin is a better corner back than Hannon. Always remember he did a great job on Peter C in the drawn Tyrone game a couple of years ago but like I said earlier his performance then shouldn't get him a place on the team now
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: the salmon of knowledge on February 25, 2009, 05:30:58 PM
ok C4E point taken and cant possibly disagree with you, i was at the 2 league matches so far this year, as always should i mention, unless they are miles away, eg waterford. i dont know what club your from so dont know who was shouting what... i know alot of those lads would not be at league games if not for givney.
does not matter though, nobody goes out with a blue shirt on without aiming to give it his all. personal insults are terrible and have no place in football. Read the other GAA website, and any county player would hand back the jersey, with the abuse personally directed at them.
but to be honest C4E, stand beside a bunch of lads from any club in the county, and you will be able to associate them with that sort of stuff, a very fickle crowd the cavan supporters
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on February 25, 2009, 05:53:41 PM
Quote from: the salmon of knowledge on February 25, 2009, 05:30:58 PM
ok C4E point taken and cant possibly disagree with you, i was at the 2 league matches so far this year, as always should i mention, unless they are miles away, eg waterford. i dont know what club your from so dont know who was shouting what... i know alot of those lads would not be at league games if not for givney.
does not matter though, nobody goes out with a blue shirt on without aiming to give it his all. personal insults are terrible and have no place in football. Read the other GAA website, and any county player would hand back the jersey, with the abuse personally directed at them.
but to be honest C4E, stand beside a bunch of lads from any club in the county, and you will be able to associate them with that sort of stuff, a very fickle crowd the cavan supporters

I think the abuse had as much to do with where is was from than anything else.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: the salmon of knowledge on February 25, 2009, 10:49:12 PM
i find that mulvey and especially Walsh get a hard time from some groups of so called fans... behind me in longford a certain group of players from a div 2 club gave walsh an awful doing, including telling one of Carrs staff to take that fat f$%*er out of the middle of the field...
dont think you can fall out with a parish over a few sunshine supporters, myself and the two guys i travel to all games with will not be heard, no matter how the game goes...
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on February 26, 2009, 12:23:44 AM
Quote from: the salmon of knowledge on February 25, 2009, 10:49:12 PM
i find that mulvey and especially Walsh get a hard time from some groups of so called fans... behind me in longford a certain group of players from a div 2 club gave walsh an awful doing, including telling one of Carrs staff to take that fat f$%*er out of the middle of the field...
dont think you can fall out with a parish over a few sunshine supporters, myself and the two guys i travel to all games with will not be heard, no matter how the game goes...

You can bet though that the same lads wouldnt call Nicholas Walsh a fat f**ker to his face though, they would shit themselves.
i always go by the opinion that either on here or at a game, you shouldnt say anything about a player that you wouldnt say to his face.
Theres no problem with criticising a players performance,but that type of personalised crap is out of order.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: descartes on February 26, 2009, 12:45:41 AM
ok Celt_Man, fair enough, i was just making reference to this point

QuoteAnd again... A quick trawl online shows that McDonnell scored (0-6, 0-2 frees), 0-1 "45" in that game. 0-3 from play and conceding a couple of frees is poor enough in my opinion.

dont remember him conceding those frees.

i wouldn't be a prolific poster on this board, more an avid reader but when i see something i disagree with i'll throw my hat into the ring. I'd be a big cavan supporter, haven't missed a league or championship game since 2004, which includes 2 trips to waterford (05 & 07) where there were less than 30 of us down there, and 2 trips to tipperary whose pitch in ardfinnan i swear is actually further away from cavan than waterfords, so i feel like i can talk confidently on form displayed by various cavan players over the last half decade anyway...

agreed on the fannin thing, dont think he got a fair deal from keoghan, think it all stems from the time he conceded 4 pts from play against mattie forde inside the first 20 mins in a league match in breffni parkr, heard afterwards that keoghan never really gave him a fair chance after that. (incidentally i remember him being replaced by hannon after 25 minutes or so, who kept forde completely out of the game thereafter.)


on a differetn subject walsh takes abuse he definitely doesnt deserve, always feel he's underapreciated, might not be the most technically gifted footballer int he world, but has great athleticism, can nullify an opponent, and can think his way around a pitch, hope time proves me right on that last assertion  ;)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Drung on February 26, 2009, 01:30:41 AM
QuoteThe numbers in the national school aren't as big as they were when I was at school there either.  When I was in 6th class, there was 35 in the class now I think the average is 16/17 so that doesn't help either.

That doesn't hold water in my opinion.
Lots of rural clubs in the county would struggle to have nine or ten in a class in their local school.
The problem with Cootehill seems to be deeper than that. It would be a huge boost for the county if Cootehill could get a decent set-up and start contributing players to various county teams.
Bailieborough, Ramor and Kingscourt are on the way back, time for Cootehill and Belturbet (to a lesser extent) to step.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: jimjim on February 26, 2009, 12:59:12 PM
You can bet though that the same lads wouldnt call Nicholas Walsh a fat f**ker to his face though, they would shit themselves.
i always go by the opinion that either on here or at a game, you shouldnt say anything about a player that you wouldnt say to his face.
Theres no problem with criticising a players performance,but that type of personalised crap is out of order.
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Hello all, have been viewing the board in recent times and its good to see that there is people that can talk sense about football instead of that bull on hoganstand. At least ye all seem to know what ye are talking about.

Tis a disgrace the amount of bloody eejits that attend games, you will hear them criticise all day long but never appreciate them when its due.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on February 26, 2009, 01:15:36 PM
Quote from: Drung on February 26, 2009, 01:30:41 AM
QuoteThe numbers in the national school aren't as big as they were when I was at school there either.  When I was in 6th class, there was 35 in the class now I think the average is 16/17 so that doesn't help either.

That doesn't hold water in my opinion.
Lots of rural clubs in the county would struggle to have nine or ten in a class in their local school.
The problem with Cootehill seems to be deeper than that. It would be a huge boost for the county if Cootehill could get a decent set-up and start contributing players to various county teams.
Bailieborough, Ramor and Kingscourt are on the way back, time for Cootehill and Belturbet (to a lesser extent) to step.

I know lots of rural clubs struggle to have nine or ten but I can only talk about what I know is happening in Cootehill.  That isn't the main reason but any club would suffer if their playing pool dropped by 50% in 5 years or so.

Truthfully we have always struggled with numbers and a lot of the time we seem to perform and paper over the cracks. For example, a couple of years ago we had a U16 team in a div 2 semi final against ballyhaise actually, it was 15 a side but we only had 17 so we were struggling the whole year to field a team.  But we had two players on that team who were playing senior football at the same time (basically they were exceptional footballers for their age) who carried the team that far.  So an outsider could look in and say jaysus they were in a div 2 semi final cootehill must be flying but in reality that team should have been playing 13 a side at a lower division.


Anyway enough about that, BHM whats the story with Cullivan? Is he back? Is he gone? Is he in limbo?

And welcome to the board jimjim, that hoganstand wrecks my head, the whole thing of starting a thread and creating 10 other usernames so I can agree with myself really bugs me...
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: whats my name on February 26, 2009, 05:43:12 PM
cavan4ever you should stop criticising other clubs when your on club is just as bad we witnessed dogs abuse towards the munterconnught players from a certain county members mother from drung at the munterconnught game last year which was uncalled for and you don't hear us complaining it happens in football !!!!!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: whats my name on February 26, 2009, 05:45:12 PM
cavan are playing meath to night in navan at 8pm if anyone wants to go im going to it myself i will inform the board members tomorrow on how it goes!!!!!!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on February 26, 2009, 05:55:18 PM
Quote from: whats my name on February 26, 2009, 05:45:12 PM
cavan are playing meath to night in navan at 8pm if anyone wants to go im going to it myself i will inform the board members tomorrow on how it goes!!!!!!

Not good enough, if you were any addition, you would be giving us live updates from your mobile!! :D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on February 26, 2009, 07:59:46 PM
Quote from: whats my name on February 26, 2009, 05:43:12 PM
cavan4ever you should stop criticising other clubs when your on club is just as bad we witnessed dogs abuse towards the munterconnught players from a certain county members mother from drung at the munterconnught game last year which was uncalled for and you don't hear us complaining it happens in football !!!!!

I didn't think you knew much about that up there.

Oppostion player are fair game.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: the salmon of knowledge on February 27, 2009, 12:17:48 AM
what are ya on about C4E?
opposition players fair game... surely a contradiction to your preachings from yesterday, no??
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on February 27, 2009, 09:13:38 AM
Quote from: the salmon of knowledge on February 27, 2009, 12:17:48 AM
what are ya on about C4E?
opposition players fair game... surely a contradiction to your preachings from yesterday, no??

Dont think i have salmon but if i have show me where.

Any word from last night?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: whats my name on February 27, 2009, 11:24:10 AM
walsh didnt last long enough 2do anything he went off after 10 mins the team that started was james reilly,keith fannin,dermott sheridan,micheal hanon,martin cahill,sean brady,barry watters,dermott mc cabe,ciran galligan,david givney,ronan flanagan,micheal lyng,larry reilly, nicholas walsh, seanie johnstone. dermott sheridan,walsh,watters went off injured!!! best for cavan where lyng,larry reilly,givney, and mc cabe and galligan in patches also mackey did well when he came on at full forward and miller made a serious save in the second half!!!!!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: whats my name on February 27, 2009, 11:26:48 AM
i wasnt keeping an eye on the score but meath won it by 2 or 3 points!!! and cavan looked much improved from the tipp game so fingers crossed we might get a result in newry!!!!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on February 27, 2009, 07:30:30 PM
Yea first round of the club league this weekend... Playing Down next Saturday at 7 in Newry then club fixtures the day after... then Limerick at home at 7 the following Saturday..

Quote from: put-it-up on February 27, 2009, 06:17:45 PM
I think the Tipp defeat might have been the kick up the backside we have needed for a while. When is the Down game. I am right in saying club games take over this weekend ament I?

In relation to the comment about Walsh, he doesn't help himself at times to be honest. For a big man he tends to hit the deck like a sack of spuds at times. He is not a very liked man but for me can play a big role for the team. Like him or loathe him his strength alone cause headaches for teams in and around the square. I mean, shouldering him is like hitting a wall..I found that out the hard way!

As regards Walsh, he is an ape of a man and I mean that in a good way, if Carr can get him every week playing half as effective as he was when he came against Kildare last year it would be a major next in the right direction...
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on February 27, 2009, 07:53:05 PM
For what it's worth, here;s the fixtures for the weekend and the way I think they MIGHT pan out...


Imperial Bar A.C.F.L. Division 1 Round 1

Saturday - Redhills v Belturbet - Gumley missing will be a huge loss this team, jayo and vaughan to be the diffence
Saturday - Mullahoran v Lavey - Would fancy Mullahorn with home advantage to win by 3 or 4
Cavan Gaels v Ballinagh - Can't look past the Gaels
Cuchulainns v Denn -  Very tight to call, Cucu maybe to continue good league form by 2, wouldn't rule out  a draw
Kilygarry v Gowna - Gowna to win, McKeever, Pierson and McCabe too much to handle
Crosserlough v Castlerahan - Haven't a clue, Castlerahan always should be doing better than do... but C'lough hard to beat at home
Ramor Utd v Lacken - Ramor will make an impact this year, ramor by 3

Cathal Brady Audi A.C.F.L. Division 2 Round 1

Saturday - Shercock v Kill - Gonna fancy Shercock in this one, always do better in early part of league
Saturday - Cavan Gaels v Cootehill - Gonna have to back the horse I'm riding in this one.... think we might shade it (please don't come back to haunt me)
Killeshandra v Crosserlough - Killeshandra, would expect McKiernan and O'reilly to fancy swing one, interesting to see how C'lough junior team gets on
Kingscourt v Drumalee - very tough one, both had seasons to forget last year, home advantage to count maybe???
Killinkere v Drumgoon - would expect goonies to sneak through but Killinkere are never easy to beat at home
Drumlane v Ballyhaise - Gonna give Drumlane the shout (if like I'm told Cullivan and Pickett won;t be there)
Knockbride v Drung  - another close one to call, Tierney is flying and Larry finding form gonna go for Knockbride despite galligan and waters

John Brady Insurances Ltd A.C.F.L. Division 3 Round 1

Saturday - Butlersbridge v Ballymachugh - Bridge by couple of points
Saturday - Kildallon v Corlough - Kildallon by 4 or 5
Shannon Gaels v Munterconnacht - Wouldn't know the form here at all so not gonna open my mouth!!
Swanlinbar v Templeport - again not too sure at all, Swad to sneak thru
Mountnugent v Cornafean - Expecting Givney to shine even more in Div 3 so Mountnugent by 3
Killygarry v Laragh Utd - expecting a young laragh team to push for promotion this year, laragh by 3
Bailieboro v Arva - again expecting to see bailieboro in the shake up at the top, so shamrocks by 4/5



Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on February 27, 2009, 10:07:02 PM
Pickett is away travelling

Cullivan is ??????  ???  ::) your guess is as good as mine.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: the salmon of knowledge on February 27, 2009, 10:36:45 PM
very good celt man, you must take in alot of games over the year.

all i meant C4E  is that your answer to put it ups comment sounded a little contradictary, nobody at any match has the right to personally critise any player, county, club from the stand, or the dugout.
anyway dont want a war of words with you, i just feel you were harsh, expressing your hatred for mountnugent over what a small group of lads were saying.

another thing, i did not mean to start up a discussion about the abuse walsh gets, for my money he has been an easy target by begrudgers as far back as the time he played  aussie rules, doesnt deserve it, tried very hard in longford, good lad.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on February 27, 2009, 11:57:18 PM
Fair play to you Celt man taking that time out to make your predictions. Even if I disagree with a few, I think we are all wasting our time trying to predict the opening results. Games are about as predictable the Irish Weather.  ;)

Love picking up the Celt during the week and seeing who score what.Great to get the football back!

Cant wait to see how Bailieborough shape up this year, Its sad to see us down in Division Three..Unfortunately it is completely deserved. What should I expect to see from Arva on Sunday, dogged I am sure???Never had the joy of playing against them
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on February 28, 2009, 12:12:01 AM
Folks, I'm a long time gone out of the county but still maintain an interest, in spite of everything. I have one or two very reliable sources regarding what is going on up there and some of the recent feedback I have got is interesting, and that's being charitable. The current discipline situation (attitude to drink, turning up for training, turning up on time for training) has been described as worse than during the last days of the Keogan era,,,,,,,,,,,,ye gods. Now it was never going to be easy and will take time etc. etc. I'm certainly one for giving Carr a decent chance, god knows it ain't going to be easy to turn things around BUT, the next point I don't know how to react to. Apparently after training last Friday night it was the County Board Chairman who was laying down the law about the general attitude which even the Anglo Celt has copped on to at this stage. Now, with Carr's reputation/military background etc I would have hoped that his expense allowance would require him to be the man laying down the law on this one.

We have tolerated a half arsed attitude to wearing the senior county jersey for the last 30 years to tell the truth, and I reckon we are close to the point of no return. We really need the County Board/Carr etc. to see this out and deal with some of the clowns involved. There seems to be a bit of a start made but there can be no going back, unless we want defeats to Limerick, Antrim, Waterford and Tipp to be followed up by similar fates against London, New York, and FFs, Kilkenny.

Critical times, hope to christ we can rise to it.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on February 28, 2009, 12:15:39 AM
Best of luck to ya put it up, different eras (different centuries now that I think of it) same jersey. Gowan da shamrocks.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tierworker blue on February 28, 2009, 06:46:15 AM
Quote from: anglocelt39 on February 28, 2009, 12:15:39 AM
Best of luck to ya put it up, different eras (different centuries now that I think of it) same jersey. Gowan da shamrocks.

Ditto!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on February 28, 2009, 09:01:01 AM
Quote from: Celt_Man on February 27, 2009, 07:53:05 PM
For what it's worth, here;s the fixtures for the weekend and the way I think they MIGHT pan out...


Imperial Bar A.C.F.L. Division 1 Round 1

Saturday - Redhills v Belturbet - Gumley missing will be a huge loss this team, jayo and vaughan to be the diffence
Saturday - Mullahoran v Lavey - Would fancy Mullahorn with home advantage to win by 3 or 4
Cavan Gaels v Ballinagh - Can't look past the Gaels
Cuchulainns v Denn -  Very tight to call, Cucu maybe to continue good league form by 2, wouldn't rule out  a draw
Kilygarry v Gowna - Gowna to win, McKeever, Pierson and McCabe too much to handle
Crosserlough v Castlerahan - Haven't a clue, Castlerahan always should be doing better than do... but C'lough hard to beat at home
Ramor Utd v Lacken - Ramor will make an impact this year, ramor by 3
Cathal Brady Audi A.C.F.L. Division 2 Round 1

Saturday - Shercock v Kill - Gonna fancy Shercock in this one, always do better in early part of league
Saturday - Cavan Gaels v Cootehill - Gonna have to back the horse I'm riding in this one.... think we might shade it (please don't come back to haunt me)
Killeshandra v Crosserlough - Killeshandra, would expect McKiernan and O'reilly to fancy swing one, interesting to see how C'lough junior team gets on
Kingscourt v Drumalee - very tough one, both had seasons to forget last year, home advantage to count maybe???
Killinkere v Drumgoon - would expect goonies to sneak through but Killinkere are never easy to beat at home
Drumlane v Ballyhaise - Gonna give Drumlane the shout (if like I'm told Cullivan and Pickett won;t be there)
Knockbride v Drung  - another close one to call, Tierney is flying and Larry finding form gonna go for Knockbride despite galligan and waters

John Brady Insurances Ltd A.C.F.L. Division 3 Round 1

Saturday - Butlersbridge v Ballymachugh - Bridge by couple of points
Saturday - Kildallon v Corlough - Kildallon by 4 or 5
Shannon Gaels v Munterconnacht - Wouldn't know the form here at all so not gonna open my mouth!!
Swanlinbar v Templeport - again not too sure at all, Swad to sneak thru
Mountnugent v Cornafean - Expecting Givney to shine even more in Div 3 so Mountnugent by 3
Killygarry v Laragh Utd - expecting a young laragh team to push for promotion this year, laragh by 3
Bailieboro v Arva - again expecting to see bailieboro in the shake up at the top, so shamrocks by 4/5





My last relevant post was ignored by all and sundry to debate mountnugent boys in the stand but I'l chance another one (where's boojangles when you need him).

Celt Man, I was gonna pop up to your match (3:30 in Terry Coyle??) to try and gain as much club knowledge as yourself. How are ye getting on in training and where might you be playing so that I can give you a review of your own performance?

As for your predictions I'd be disagreeing with you on the Gowna v Killygarry and Killeshandra v Crosserlough games but we'll see.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Babe Ruth 47 on February 28, 2009, 11:08:48 AM
Best of luck too DIT and all the Cavan lads involved with the Sigerson Final today. Unfortunately only one starting, Martin Reilly, who is showing some great form at this level. Hopefully he can carry some of this forward to the Down game. Its on at 3 on tg4, so get watching and never mind the ould egg chasers.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on February 28, 2009, 11:47:47 AM
Quote from: the salmon of knowledge on February 27, 2009, 10:36:45 PM

all i meant C4E  is that your answer to put it ups comment sounded a little contradictary, nobody at any match has the right to personally critise any player, county, club from the stand, or the dugout.
anyway dont want a war of words with you, i just feel you were harsh, expressing your hatred for mountnugent over what a small group of lads were saying.

another thing, i did not mean to start up a discussion about the abuse walsh gets, for my money he has been an easy target by begrudgers as far back as the time he played  aussie rules, doesnt deserve it, tried very hard in longford, good lad.

Pull it out didnt know what she was talking about.  Cavan supporters shouldnt be abusing cavan players if there going to do that they should stay at home. As for hating Mountnugent i dont but i cant see why they would single out Galligan other than him being Drung captain last year. 
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on February 28, 2009, 12:49:06 PM
Ah I am ragin I am going to miss the Sigerson final today..arrrgh

Promised a mate of mine I would bring him to see Shercock -v- Kill :D. Might tell him I feel sick now!!!!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: the salmon of knowledge on February 28, 2009, 05:34:22 PM
sorry C4E think the brain is on overtime there, galligan captin of drung last year, drung beat mountnugent... he has to slagged off????
thats crap
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on February 28, 2009, 08:36:13 PM
Saturday's ACFL Round-up
28 February 2009


Saturday afternoon, February 28, saw this year's All County Football League get underway, with five games down for decision in total from Divisions One through Three.

The first throw-in of the new season was in Division One at Our Lady of Lourdes Park, where the hosts Mullahoran welcomed last year's intermediate championship semi-finalists, Lavey.

Pascal Canavan's men were quick out the traps here, kicking three points in the first five minutes before Lavey struck points through Kevin Brady and Darren Jordan to help narrow down the gap.

With the wind in their sails for the opening half, Mullahoran continued to peg back their opponents though and the frees of Danny and Philip Brady helped them take in a 0-7 to 0-4 lead at the break.

In the second-half, Lavey mirrored their opponents' start with unanswered points from Kevin Brady, Sean Maguire and Declan Murphy and looked as though they were to move into an advance position.

However, on the 40-minute mark the men in black were caught napping at the back and it was Raymond Lynch that buried a brilliant finish past Conor Martin in the Lavey goal to bring the difference back to three for the Dreadnoughts.

Both Philip and Danny Brady raised white flags thereafter coming towards the last 10, and despite their best effort their was no coming back for Lavey after that as the home side went on to record a 1-9 to 0-10 victory.

Arguably, the best game of the day was the other Division One fixture at Max McGrath Park where Redhills announced their return to senior football in the county with a two-point win over neighbours Belturbet.

All looked to be going well for the visitors when there talisman Jason O'Reilly netted in a trademark goal after 10 minutes, but Redhills regrouped well from the initial shock and fired in a goal of their own from the excellent Rory Dunne at centre-field, which helped them into a 1-5 to 1-4 lead at half-time.

From the restart it was nip and tuck for both sides, with Brendan Fitzpatrick doing most of the damage up front for the Rories, and it was all to play for until Redhills centre-forward Colin Reilly bagged the game's third goal with 10 minutes remaining to make sure the border men would start off their new life in Division One with an early pair of points on the board.

In Division Two Shercock scored a convincing win over newcomers Kill with a superb second-half showing at O'Hagan Park, which saw them outscore their visitors 1-5 to 0-1.

Pierce McKenna was on form for Kill during the opening half-hour, but his team failed to make use of the heavy wind advantage at their backs and the two sides went in level on 0-5 each at the break.

In the second-half Shercock flew out of the traps to hit four unanswered points, three of which came from the boot of Cathal Reilly, and when Francis McPhilips came off the bench to net the game's only goal with under 10 minutes remaining the issue was settled, 1-10 to 0-6.

At Terry Coyle Park Cootehill came back from a four-point deficit to earn a draw from Cavan Gaels, largely thanks to the introduction of ace attacker Colm Smith to the game after half-time.

A lethal full-forward line of Conor McClarey, Levi Murphy and Martin Dunne caused Cootehill major problems in the first-half and after Tommy McCormack booted over the score of the game they trailed 0-6 to 0-2 at the break.

Smith was sent on by the Cootehill management at the restart and had an immediate impact, setting up Mark Mullen for an early score that inspired the team.

Cavan Gaels' best goal chance came from McClarey shaving the post towards the last quarter before Cootehill's big full-forward Paul McCarney rattled the net in the following attack at the other end. Smith landed two points to edge the visitors in front before Levi Murphy and Joshua Hayes swapped points to leave the difference at one towards the closing stages.

Just when it looked as though Cootehill were to gain a memorable victory, the Gaels' full-forward drew one last free and it was Murphy that earned the Cavan town side a share of the spoils by popping the placed kick over.

In Ballyconnell, Emmett Curry gained an opening win over his former team Kildallan with Corlough at First Ulsters Park in the day's only Division Three encounter.

After taking in a 0-6 to 0-4 lead at the interval, the visitors maintained a two-point lead, with Brendan and Fintan McGovern and Aaron Duignan swapping points, up until the last quarter when Curry's son, Jason, hit the net to put KILDALLAN a point ahead.

However, the home side couldn't push on and instead it was Corlough that re-took the lead through the two McGovern's in the final stages to see out a 0-15 to 1-10 victory in this local derby.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on February 28, 2009, 08:45:18 PM
Redhills won, f**k  >:(

Shercock beating Kill was no suprise, Kill have some great players like McKenna but no strength in depth. They will struggle to win a game.(watch them beat Ballyhaise now after i said that  :D )

Mullahoran Lavey was tighter than id have expected.

Cootehill got a draw,not a bad result.
that Gaels full forward line of McClarey. Levi Murphy and Martin Dunne will take some watching this year(all 3 would be certain starters on any other club team in the county bar the gaels)

bit of a shock in Div 3 with Corlough pulling one over Kildallan,whom id have reckoned would be strong contenders for league and championship this year.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on February 28, 2009, 09:39:48 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on February 28, 2009, 08:45:18 PM
Redhills won, f**k  >:(

Shercock beating Kill was no suprise, Kill have some great players like McKenna but no strength in depth. They will struggle to win a game.(watch them beat Ballyhaise now after i said that  :D )

Mullahoran Lavey was tighter than id have expected.

Cootehill got a draw,not a bad result.
that Gaels full forward line of McClarey. Levi Murphy and Martin Dunne will take some watching this year(all 3 would be certain starters on any other club team in the county bar the gaels)

bit of a shock in Div 3 with Corlough pulling one over Kildallan,whom id have reckoned would be strong contenders for league and championship this year.


Murphy only came on for the Gaels and although McClarey gave his man a serious roasting in the first half (hope it wasn't Celt Man) he wasn't nearly as potent in the second. Smith had a great second half for Cootehill and McCutcheon seems to follow the ball around the field offering support.
Very entertaining game for the first of the year and probably a fair result.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on February 28, 2009, 10:00:52 PM
thanks for the updates lads. Myles, a career in the GAA media surely awaits you, just be careful to avoid any red top type allegations about former county legends ok. Well done to all concerned.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on March 01, 2009, 12:57:20 AM
It didnt take me long to find out where those match reports were pulled from :D

I was over at the Shercock -v- Kill game. Wasnt great stuff and if I am being completely honest, i think Kill will struggle this year. Really lack any major presence in the forwards and are far too reliant on McKenna for inspiration.

That Shercock team is a young squad with plenty of youth replacing older heads. Cathal Reilly was excellent at full forward and I think very highly of their young midfielder Michael Reilly.

With it five points apiece at the break, Kill only got a point in the second half as Shercock powered on and got 1-5 or 1-6 - not entirely sure.

Not surprised Redhills got off to a winning start. Even without Gumley they are an upcoming team, while as Belturbet are a side on their last legs. Not much coming through the ranks out there..
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on March 01, 2009, 08:54:38 AM
Quote from: anglocelt39 on February 28, 2009, 10:00:52 PM
thanks for the updates lads. Myles, a career in the GAA media surely awaits you, just be careful to avoid any red top type allegations about former county legends ok. Well done to all concerned.

Afraid I just copied and pasted from hoganstand  :D, too lazy to be a real journalist.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on March 01, 2009, 11:29:19 AM
Quote from: the salmon of knowledge on February 28, 2009, 05:34:22 PM
sorry C4E think the brain is on overtime there, galligan captin of drung last year, drung beat mountnugent... he has to slagged off????
thats crap


That was the worst team we played all year dont know how they got they got to the final but they would have no other reason to say the things they were saying.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on March 01, 2009, 11:42:44 AM
Quote from: cavan4ever on March 01, 2009, 11:29:19 AM
Quote from: the salmon of knowledge on February 28, 2009, 05:34:22 PM
sorry C4E think the brain is on overtime there, galligan captin of drung last year, drung beat mountnugent... he has to slagged off????
thats crap


That was the worst team we played all year dont know how they got they got to the final but they would have no other reason to say the things they were saying.



Ahh jaysus will you drop it the pair of ye... don't want it getting like the other place.

Probably was a fair enough result in our game although I think we hit 10 wides alone in the first half - easy knowing we haven't kicked a ball hardly yet in training - thought we have most 65 - 70% of the play.  But you're always disappointed when you're up by a point with 2 minutes to go and you draw the game.
I think I know why most people don't like the gaels now, beating a team doesn't seem to be enough for them they have to mouth and throw sly ones all the time, ahh well I'll know for the next time.

Quote from: put-it-up on March 01, 2009, 12:57:20 AM
It didnt take me long to find out where those match reports were pulled from :D

I was over at the Shercock -v- Kill game. Wasnt great stuff and if I am being completely honest, i think Kill will struggle this year. Really lack any major presence in the forwards and are far too reliant on McKenna for inspiration.

That Shercock team is a young squad with plenty of youth replacing older heads. Cathal Reilly was excellent at full forward and I think very highly of their young midfielder Michael Reilly.

With it five points apiece at the break, Kill only got a point in the second half as Shercock powered on and got 1-5 or 1-6 - not entirely sure.

Not surprised Redhills got off to a winning start. Even without Gumley they are an upcoming team, while as Belturbet are a side on their last legs. Not much coming through the ranks out there..

In fairness to kill, they were missing 5 of their starting forward line not many clubs could handle that. Didn't exactly shed a tear for them either
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on March 01, 2009, 12:27:38 PM
Quote from: Celt_Man on March 01, 2009, 11:42:44 AM
Quote from: cavan4ever on March 01, 2009, 11:29:19 AM
Quote from: the salmon of knowledge on February 28, 2009, 05:34:22 PM
sorry C4E think the brain is on overtime there, galligan captin of drung last year, drung beat mountnugent... he has to slagged off????
thats crap


That was the worst team we played all year dont know how they got they got to the final but they would have no other reason to say the things they were saying.



Ahh jaysus will you drop it the pair of ye... don't want it getting like the other place.

Probably was a fair enough result in our game although I think we hit 10 wides alone in the first half - easy knowing we haven't kicked a ball hardly yet in training - thought we have most 65 - 70% of the play.  But you're always disappointed when you're up by a point with 2 minutes to go and you draw the game.
I think I know why most people don't like the gaels now, beating a team doesn't seem to be enough for them they have to mouth and throw sly ones all the time, ahh well I'll know for the next time.

Quote from: put-it-up on March 01, 2009, 12:57:20 AM
It didnt take me long to find out where those match reports were pulled from :D

I was over at the Shercock -v- Kill game. Wasnt great stuff and if I am being completely honest, i think Kill will struggle this year. Really lack any major presence in the forwards and are far too reliant on McKenna for inspiration.

That Shercock team is a young squad with plenty of youth replacing older heads. Cathal Reilly was excellent at full forward and I think very highly of their young midfielder Michael Reilly.

With it five points apiece at the break, Kill only got a point in the second half as Shercock powered on and got 1-5 or 1-6 - not entirely sure.

Not surprised Redhills got off to a winning start. Even without Gumley they are an upcoming team, while as Belturbet are a side on their last legs. Not much coming through the ranks out there..

In fairness to kill, they were missing 5 of their starting forward line not many clubs could handle that. Didn't exactly shed a tear for them either

Trying to the last few days.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on March 01, 2009, 06:26:51 PM
Knockbride beat Drung by 2.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: whats my name on March 01, 2009, 09:57:01 PM
Lakeside Manor Hotel A.C.F.L. Division 3 Round 1
Butlersbridge off?? Ballymachugh

Kildallon 1-10 0-14 Corlough

Shannon Gaels 0-14 3-04 Munterconnacht

Swanlinbar 0-14 1-09 Templeport

Mountnugent 1-07 1-04 Cornafean

Killygarry 0-06 0-09 Laragh Utd

Bailieboro 1-09 0-06 Arva

got it of the hoganstand
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on March 02, 2009, 01:12:48 AM
Here is a full list of results lads..

Celt Man, when you rise and shine in the morning I would live to know how many you got right!

For now though, I need my beauty sleep!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4sam on March 02, 2009, 11:39:55 AM
Good win for Castlerahan over Crosserlough yesterday, 0-12 to 1-5, could and probably should have won by more.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on March 02, 2009, 01:38:04 PM
Imperial Bar A.C.F.L. Division 1 Round 1

Saturday - Redhills v Belturbet - Gumley missing will be a huge loss this team, jayo and vaughan to be the diffence                  Wrong
Saturday - Mullahoran v Lavey - Would fancy Mullahorn with home advantage to win by 3 or 4                                               Right
Cavan Gaels v Ballinagh - Can't look past the Gaels                                                                                                           Wrong
Cuchulainns v Denn -  Very tight to call, Cucu maybe to continue good league form by 2, wouldn't rule out  a draw                Right
Kilygarry v Gowna - Gowna to win, McKeever, Pierson and McCabe too much to handle                                                       Right
Crosserlough v Castlerahan - Haven't a clue, Castlerahan always should be doing better than do... but C'lough hard to beat at home     never committed to it
Ramor Utd v Lacken - Ramor will make an impact this year, ramor by 3                                                                            Right

Cathal Brady Audi A.C.F.L. Division 2 Round 1

Saturday - Shercock v Kill - Gonna fancy Shercock in this one, always do better in early part of league                                                                       Right
Saturday - Cavan Gaels v Cootehill - Gonna have to back the horse I'm riding in this one.... think we might shade it (please don't come back to haunt me)   Wrong
Killeshandra v Crosserlough - Killeshandra, would expect McKiernan and O'reilly to fancy swing one, interesting to see how C'lough junior team gets on      Right
Kingscourt v Drumalee - very tough one, both had seasons to forget last year, home advantage to count maybe???                                                    Right
Killinkere v Drumgoon - would expect goonies to sneak through but Killinkere are never easy to beat at home                                                            Right
Drumlane v Ballyhaise - Gonna give Drumlane the shout (if like I'm told Cullivan and Pickett won;t be there)                                                                Right
Knockbride v Drung  - another close one to call, Tierney is flying and Larry finding form gonna go for Knockbride despite galligan and waters                   Right

John Brady Insurances Ltd A.C.F.L. Division 3 Round 1

Saturday - Butlersbridge v Ballymachugh - Bridge by couple of points                                                             
Saturday - Kildallon v Corlough - Kildallon by 4 or 5                                                                                                                                             Wrong
Shannon Gaels v Munterconnacht - Wouldn't know the form here at all so not gonna open my mouth!!                                                          didn't commit to it
Swanlinbar v Templeport - again not too sure at all, Swad to sneak thru                                                                                                              Right
Mountnugent v Cornafean - Expecting Givney to shine even more in Div 3 so Mountnugent by 3                                                                            Right
Killygarry v Laragh Utd - expecting a young laragh team to push for promotion this year, laragh by 3                                                                        Right
Bailieboro v Arva - again expecting to see bailieboro in the shake up at the top, so shamrocks by 4/5                                                                      Right

14 right out of the 18 predictions I committed to.... Got Kildallon wrong, didn't see that coming in fairness - great result for corlough. ourselves and the gaels drawing as well as ballinagh and gaels and redhills beating belturbet... that's 78 % jaysus it's a long long time since I saw that high a mark after my work!!!

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on March 02, 2009, 05:04:06 PM
desperate result for us against Drumlane,poor game Drumlane kicked the last 3 scores to win it from a point down.
we were missing a fair few 1st choice, Brendan Lyons,Sean Mac,Slowey,Pickett and Kevin Tierney only came on as a sub due to minor commitments.No Complaints though,we werent good enough to kill the game off and congrats to drumlane.
Hopefully we can get a result against Killinkere on Sat.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on March 02, 2009, 05:41:22 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on March 02, 2009, 05:04:06 PM
desperate result for us against Drumlane,poor game Drumlane kicked the last 3 scores to win it from a point down.
we were missing a fair few 1st choice, Brendan Lyons,Sean Mac,Slowey,Pickett and Kevin Tierney only came on as a sub due to minor commitments.No Complaints though,we werent good enough to kill the game off and congrats to drumlane.
Hopefully we can get a result against Killinkere on Sat.

In fairness that a fair crew of boys to be missing... what's the story with Slowey this year?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: the salmon of knowledge on March 02, 2009, 05:42:40 PM
good result for my crowd the weekend, showed a high work rate in the first half against the breeze which seemed to shock a cornafean side who were in mountnugent  an hour and a half before kickoff. in fairness mountnugent kicked about 17 wides, this could have been a bit of a touch up if the free takers brought there shooting boots.
a good turn out also, the away support travelled well.

any other info from the weekends proceedings, any sendings off around the county
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on March 02, 2009, 05:43:20 PM
Quote from: Celt_Man on March 02, 2009, 05:41:22 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on March 02, 2009, 05:04:06 PM
desperate result for us against Drumlane,poor game Drumlane kicked the last 3 scores to win it from a point down.
we were missing a fair few 1st choice, Brendan Lyons,Sean Mac,Slowey,Pickett and Kevin Tierney only came on as a sub due to minor commitments.No Complaints though,we werent good enough to kill the game off and congrats to drumlane.
Hopefully we can get a result against Killinkere on Sat.

In fairness that a fair crew of boys to be missing... what's the story with Slowey this year?

had surgery on the knee,believe he will be back later on in the year,knowing him it wont take him long to get back back to fitness once hes cleared by the doctors.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on March 02, 2009, 05:49:50 PM
Not so bad, well for Ballyhaise anyway... Am I right in saying he had some heart complaint shown up last year during a check up or is that just a rumour?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on March 02, 2009, 05:51:58 PM
Quote from: Celt_Man on March 02, 2009, 05:49:50 PM
Not so bad, well for Ballyhaise anyway... Am I right in saying he had some heart complaint shown up last year during a check up or is that just a rumour?

havent heard that one Celt Man, i very much doubt its true. would be fairly friendly with Fergal and id have heard it.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on March 02, 2009, 05:56:30 PM
a rumour that turned out to be bullshite... well there's a first!!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: jimjim on March 03, 2009, 09:22:31 AM
That result was def a bit of a suprise but no wonder when ye are missing all those players.
Heard that about Slowey last year as well, towards the end of the summer something on his heart showed up but then he got the all clear. Am friendly with 1/2 of the Ballyhaise lads and they told me that last year.
Were u playing urself BallyhaiseMan. Was it fitness that won it for Drumlane in the end or what kind of shape are they in?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on March 03, 2009, 11:11:52 AM
Cavan Gaels 0-10 Ballinagh 0-10

Good performance by Ballinagh at the weekend could have taken the win but a draw was a fair result. The Gaels were a depleted outfit, missing Walsh, Lyng, Johnston, Forde and a couple of others but still good to get some kind of a result of them. A couple of our younger lads showed well Patrick Carroll continues to impress at full back and Niall McDermott was ever dangerous up front, scoring 7 points out of 10 (can't remember how many were frees 3 or 4).

Lacken up next Sunday, always a clinker.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on March 04, 2009, 12:21:17 PM
Am i right in saying the game against Newry is fixed for half 7 on a Saturday evening?

Is going to be a tough tough game, but we have to roll up or sleeves and start fighting.

I am sure alot of county players will be missing for Sunday's club games then as well, which is a pity but sure waht can you do.

Any predictions on Carr's line-up
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on March 04, 2009, 12:35:14 PM
Its hard to know what the selection will be since a few lads went of injured against Meath in that challenge a while back. I think we can expect to see McCabe starting and also Seanie Johnstone. Walsh if fit could be thrown in a FF but I'd prefer to see him and galligan stay in Midfield and look at McCabe at FF (if Givney is to be dropped). Podge out of FB to be replaced by Dermot Shierdan. I'm going to make this game so I'll let you know what I think of it on Sunday.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on March 04, 2009, 12:44:55 PM
I reckon Sheridan will be full back and I could see Hannon starting beside him... McCabe will play whether he starts or not depends on whether Walsh is fit or not... If he isn't then McCabe could be beside Galligan in the middle with Gibvey at FF... Pierson and Jelly in the corners and hopefully they will look for a few more breaks from the FF whoever it is and not demand primary possession all the time.
I think Larry could be making an appearance this Saturday too, given how well he played against Meath with Miller probably in goals even though Fintan Reilly did feck all wrong...
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: whats my name on March 04, 2009, 02:42:28 PM
i think the game is at 6.45 in newry thats what i have seen in the celt!!!!!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on March 04, 2009, 02:51:30 PM
Quote from: jimjim on March 03, 2009, 09:22:31 AM
That result was def a bit of a suprise but no wonder when ye are missing all those players.
Heard that about Slowey last year as well, towards the end of the summer something on his heart showed up but then he got the all clear. Am friendly with 1/2 of the Ballyhaise lads and they told me that last year.
Were u playing urself BallyhaiseMan. Was it fitness that won it for Drumlane in the end or what kind of shape are they in?


i was playing yes, it wasnt fitness,training has been going very well under Mickey,we just didnt play to anywhere near our potential and we got caught in the last few minutes because of that,They are in decent enough shape,fairly fit but their forwards were quite wasteful at times though.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on March 04, 2009, 03:45:18 PM
I'm surprised nobody has picked up on ac39's post from a few pages back. I too heard some uninspiring tales about the behind-the-scenes set up on the county team, to indicate that the Tommy Carr 'era of discipline' is something of a red herring by all appearances.

I heard there was some hotel shenanigans after the game with Mayo and all in all, if these things are true then it doesn't look good. McKeever, Carr said when questioned, is 'on a break' which is probably code for some sort of suspension? before coming back all things forgiven, which doesn't fill me with hope for the long term either. We'll suspend you temporarily while letting you know you're indispensable sort of thing.

Anyway, these are just rumours at this stage but combine them with results, the drinking stories from earlier etc., and you wouldn't be as positive as early January.

Hopefully we'll get some sort of response against Down and if these things are genuinely going on, they'll be out of the system before serious championship preparation starts.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on March 04, 2009, 03:58:19 PM
'We CAN beat Down' - Carr (www.cavanpost.ie)

March 2nd, 2009

By Niall Boyle

A defiant Tommy Carr stoked the fires ahead of Cavan's clash with Down next Saturday roaring: "I believe we can beat Down."

The Cavan boss says that his troops have the mettle to down Benny Coulter and co in Newry, (throw-in at 6.45pm), and says that any problems the Breffni Blues have experienced so far have nothing to do with their ability on the field.

"We're underdogs for this game no doubt about it– we were expected to win the first two games, but not this one.

"Do we expect to win it? I expect to win it. It might be a bold statement, but I expect to win it. I believe it to happen; I just need the players to believe that as well

"We've to pick up six points in this competition – and I see Newry as a good place to start.

"I think if this team plays to its potential then there's six/eight points to be picked up before the end of the league campaign.

"Being able to play together isn't a technical ability, that's purely a team and belief thing. The problem for Cavan isn't physical attributes – but mental.

"You don't turn on a tap with commitment, and confidence etc, in just two months," he said.

Going into the game with Ross Carr's men, the ex-Dublin captain has a number of injuries to contend with as both Mickey Lyng and Nicholas Walsh are doubtful.

But this way give Gowna powerhouse Dermot McCabe the chance to start in centre-field after he impressed at last week's challenge game with Meath.

And he's buoyed by the fact that the college competitions have finished – allowing players to focus on their inter-county commitments

"Last Sunday was the first time that we had a panel together in daylight. It's been my first opportunity to some coaching with the panel, and that's a good indication of how frustrating it's been there for me.

"This has been a very rushed affair since the start of January because of the burnout rule and the non-collective training.

"The players are only starting to come onboard mentally, because I know that having played in three Sigersons your mind is with the college until you get knocked out."

And, he brushed off suggestions that his tenure with the Breffni Blues may be a short one saying: "I'm not immune to certain mumblings around, and after two months it's laughable really. I can understand people's mindsets – but I don't think you can point your finger at the management why Longford scored three goals, and we owned 70 per cent of possession and couldn't convert it."
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cornafean on March 06, 2009, 10:57:29 AM
Angela Hamilton of Shercock GAA club has circulated the following appeal to Cavan GAA clubs today. I am posting it here in case some of you don't see it elsewhere.



Hi,

I am sure a number of you read about Adam Clerkin on the front page of the Anglo Celt this week.

Adam was born in May 2007 and is the only child of Sinead and Donal Clerkin.

At 18 months, Adam was diagnosed with a tumor on his lower jaw bone called a Ewing's Sarcoma.

This is a rare type of Bone cancer largely affecting teenage children. Adam is currently undergoing an intensive course of Chemotherapy to shrink the tumor in Our Ladies Hospital for Sick Children in Crumlin.

Adam will also require surgery to remove the tumor which will entail removing his jaw bone and replacing it with a bone from his leg.

This surgery is going to be performed in Childrens Hospital Boston as this type of surgery is not available in Ireland.

There has been a committee set up in Shercock to raise the money needed for Adam's Surgery and we start with a sponsored walk on Sunday, March 15th.

Already, people from all over have shown incredible generosity, considering the times we find ourselves in. But there is a long road ahead and we are asking for your help in raising the money necessary for Adam to have the operation in Boston.

There is a website now set up with more information -

www.adamclerkin.com

Or you can contact Committee chairman Peadar Mohan on 042 9669593.

I am also on the committee so if you need further information, you can email me to this address. shercock@cavan.gaa.ie

Any help will be greatly appreciated.

kind regards

Angela Hamilton
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on March 06, 2009, 03:05:29 PM
Sure I'll give this a go again...


John Brady Insurances Ltd A.C.F.L. Division 3 Round 2


Imperial Bar A.C.F.L. Division 1 Round 2
Denn v Cavan Gaels - Cavan Gaels to win a close one
Gowna v Cuchulainns - CuCu's to beat a Gowna team with tired county players
Castlerahan v Killygarry -
Lavey v Crosserlough - Lavey to beat - going by reports from last week - a poor C'lough side
Belturbet v Mullahoran - Belturbet to bounce back after last week
Ramor Utd. v Redhills - one of the ties of the round, ramor to repeat last years div 2 final win
Lacken v Ballinagh - ballinagh to improve upon last wk's performance but local derbies like this are sometimes a lottery

Cathal Brady Audi A.C.F.L. Division 2 Round 2
Cootehill v Killeshandra - I think this is gonna be very tight but we have one of our main boys back - so ourselves by 1 or 2???
Drumalee v Cavan Gaels - again a derby but you'd think Drumalee might be too much for CG, considering both CG teams are playing at same time
Drumgoon v Kingscourt - Kingscourt by a point or two
Ballyhaise v Killinkere - Ballyhaise to get things back on track by a goal or more
Drung v Drumlane - always a tight game between these two especially down in bunnoe, going for a draw
Shercock v Knockbride - Knockbride to win by 3 or 4, tierney and a lesser extend larry too much for Shercock to handle
Kill v Crosserlough - I believe Kill are still missing a few but the fact that C'lough are playing the same day and need a win in div 1 so won;t use the same players, kill by a point or two

John Brady Insurances Ltd A.C.F.L. Division 3 Round 2
Sat - Templeport v Shannon Gaels - not too sure about div 3 in general, both teams beaten last wk, but going for Shannon Gaels - the goals killed them last wk so if they stop them this wk, 1 or 2 point win
Munterconnacht v Butlersbridge - again a tight one, munterconnacht to make home advantage count
Corlough v Swanlinbar - good win for corlough last week but I could see Swad having too much for them this wk, Swad by 3 or 4
Cornafean v Kildallon - Killdallon to bounce back after last weeks defeat
Laragh Utd v Mountnugent - again potential cracker, both will be in the shake up for promotion if Laragh can handle Givney they'll win but I don't think they will so Mountnugent by 2
Bailieboro v Killygarry - bailieboro should win this by 5 or more
Arva v Ballymachugh - not too sure, ballymachugh haven't played yet so Arva with a game under the belt and home advantage by 2
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on March 06, 2009, 04:23:38 PM
il be checking in on your predictions again this week Celt Man and if you keep up your outstanding sucess rate, I'l have to look into getting you a job with Sky Sports ;D

Alot of close games at the weekend, plenty too hard to call. The fact the county players are in action the night before will have a big affect on teams such as Gowna.

Also the club teams, whose second string are in action will find life a lot more diifficult too this weekend! Glad we got thrown against Killygarry's this week. The Gaels will be stretched too, especially with there injuries and county players in action.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on March 06, 2009, 08:29:13 PM
Quote from: Celt_Man on March 06, 2009, 03:05:29 PM
Sure I'll give this a go again...


John Brady Insurances Ltd A.C.F.L. Division 3 Round 2


Imperial Bar A.C.F.L. Division 1 Round 2
Denn v Cavan Gaels - Cavan Gaels to win a close one
Gowna v Cuchulainns - CuCu's to beat a Gowna team with tired county players
Castlerahan v Killygarry -
Lavey v Crosserlough - Lavey to beat - going by reports from last week - a poor C'lough side
Belturbet v Mullahoran - Belturbet to bounce back after last week
Ramor Utd. v Redhills - one of the ties of the round, ramor to repeat last years div 2 final win
Lacken v Ballinagh - ballinagh to improve upon last wk's performance but local derbies like this are sometimes a lottery

Cathal Brady Audi A.C.F.L. Division 2 Round 2
Cootehill v Killeshandra - I think this is gonna be very tight but we have one of our main boys back - so ourselves by 1 or 2???
Drumalee v Cavan Gaels - again a derby but you'd think Drumalee might be too much for CG, considering both CG teams are playing at same time
Drumgoon v Kingscourt - Kingscourt by a point or two
Ballyhaise v Killinkere - Ballyhaise to get things back on track by a goal or more
Drung v Drumlane - always a tight game between these two especially down in bunnoe, going for a draw
Shercock v Knockbride - Knockbride to win by 3 or 4, tierney and a lesser extend larry too much for Shercock to handle
Kill v Crosserlough - I believe Kill are still missing a few but the fact that C'lough are playing the same day and need a win in div 1 so won;t use the same players, kill by a point or two

John Brady Insurances Ltd A.C.F.L. Division 3 Round 2
Sat - Templeport v Shannon Gaels - not too sure about div 3 in general, both teams beaten last wk, but going for Shannon Gaels - the goals killed them last wk so if they stop them this wk, 1 or 2 point win
Munterconnacht v Butlersbridge - again a tight one, munterconnacht to make home advantage count
Corlough v Swanlinbar - good win for corlough last week but I could see Swad having too much for them this wk, Swad by 3 or 4
Cornafean v Kildallon - Killdallon to bounce back after last weeks defeat
Laragh Utd v Mountnugent - again potential cracker, both will be in the shake up for promotion if Laragh can handle Givney they'll win but I don't think they will so Mountnugent by 2
Bailieboro v Killygarry - bailieboro should win this by 5 or more
Arva v Ballymachugh - not too sure, ballymachugh haven't played yet so Arva with a game under the belt and home advantage by 2


Having seen both clubs on the opening weekend Celt Man I'd have to disagree. You'll definitely have to tighten up around the half back line to stop the leaguers overlapping half-backs and midfiled.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on March 06, 2009, 10:31:42 PM
Quote from: Lawrence of Knockbride on March 06, 2009, 08:29:13 PM
Quote from: Celt_Man on March 06, 2009, 03:05:29 PM
Sure I'll give this a go again...


John Brady Insurances Ltd A.C.F.L. Division 3 Round 2


Imperial Bar A.C.F.L. Division 1 Round 2
Denn v Cavan Gaels - Cavan Gaels to win a close one
Gowna v Cuchulainns - CuCu's to beat a Gowna team with tired county players
Castlerahan v Killygarry - forgot this one originally coz I was coming back to it - still not sure, maybe Castlerahan to shade it but tiredness of county boys could be for a big factor in last 10 mins
Lavey v Crosserlough - Lavey to beat - going by reports from last week - a poor C'lough side
Belturbet v Mullahoran - Belturbet to bounce back after last week
Ramor Utd. v Redhills - one of the ties of the round, ramor to repeat last years div 2 final win
Lacken v Ballinagh - ballinagh to improve upon last wk's performance but local derbies like this are sometimes a lottery

Cathal Brady Audi A.C.F.L. Division 2 Round 2
Cootehill v Killeshandra - I think this is gonna be very tight but we have one of our main boys back - so ourselves by 1 or 2???
Drumalee v Cavan Gaels - again a derby but you'd think Drumalee might be too much for CG, considering both CG teams are playing at same time
Drumgoon v Kingscourt - Kingscourt by a point or two
Ballyhaise v Killinkere - Ballyhaise to get things back on track by a goal or more
Drung v Drumlane - always a tight game between these two especially down in bunnoe, going for a draw
Shercock v Knockbride - Knockbride to win by 3 or 4, tierney and a lesser extend larry too much for Shercock to handle
Kill v Crosserlough - I believe Kill are still missing a few but the fact that C'lough are playing the same day and need a win in div 1 so won;t use the same players, kill by a point or two

John Brady Insurances Ltd A.C.F.L. Division 3 Round 2
Sat - Templeport v Shannon Gaels - not too sure about div 3 in general, both teams beaten last wk, but going for Shannon Gaels - the goals killed them last wk so if they stop them this wk, 1 or 2 point win
Munterconnacht v Butlersbridge - again a tight one, munterconnacht to make home advantage count
Corlough v Swanlinbar - good win for corlough last week but I could see Swad having too much for them this wk, Swad by 3 or 4
Cornafean v Kildallon - Killdallon to bounce back after last weeks defeat
Laragh Utd v Mountnugent - again potential cracker, both will be in the shake up for promotion if Laragh can handle Givney they'll win but I don't think they will so Mountnugent by 2
Bailieboro v Killygarry - bailieboro should win this by 5 or more
Arva v Ballymachugh - not too sure, ballymachugh haven't played yet so Arva with a game under the belt and home advantage by 2


Having seen both clubs on the opening weekend Celt Man I'd have to disagree. You'll definitely have to tighten up around the half back line to stop the leaguers overlapping half-backs and midfiled.

Now in fairness, you'd hardly expect me to come out and say Killeshandra are gonna give us a kicking, they beat us last year in the league by 3 and we beat them in the champo by 2 or 3 so I'll say it'll be tight, so in a tight game where I come be playing, I'll always back ourselves otherwise there would be no point in playing
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on March 07, 2009, 10:08:28 AM
Quote from: Celt_Man on March 06, 2009, 10:31:42 PM
Quote from: Lawrence of Knockbride on March 06, 2009, 08:29:13 PM
Quote from: Celt_Man on March 06, 2009, 03:05:29 PM
Sure I'll give this a go again...


John Brady Insurances Ltd A.C.F.L. Division 3 Round 2


Imperial Bar A.C.F.L. Division 1 Round 2
Denn v Cavan Gaels - Cavan Gaels to win a close one
Gowna v Cuchulainns - CuCu's to beat a Gowna team with tired county players
Castlerahan v Killygarry - forgot this one originally coz I was coming back to it - still not sure, maybe Castlerahan to shade it but tiredness of county boys could be for a big factor in last 10 mins
Lavey v Crosserlough - Lavey to beat - going by reports from last week - a poor C'lough side
Belturbet v Mullahoran - Belturbet to bounce back after last week
Ramor Utd. v Redhills - one of the ties of the round, ramor to repeat last years div 2 final win
Lacken v Ballinagh - ballinagh to improve upon last wk's performance but local derbies like this are sometimes a lottery

Cathal Brady Audi A.C.F.L. Division 2 Round 2
Cootehill v Killeshandra - I think this is gonna be very tight but we have one of our main boys back - so ourselves by 1 or 2???
Drumalee v Cavan Gaels - again a derby but you'd think Drumalee might be too much for CG, considering both CG teams are playing at same time
Drumgoon v Kingscourt - Kingscourt by a point or two
Ballyhaise v Killinkere - Ballyhaise to get things back on track by a goal or more
Drung v Drumlane - always a tight game between these two especially down in bunnoe, going for a draw
Shercock v Knockbride - Knockbride to win by 3 or 4, tierney and a lesser extend larry too much for Shercock to handle
Kill v Crosserlough - I believe Kill are still missing a few but the fact that C'lough are playing the same day and need a win in div 1 so won;t use the same players, kill by a point or two

John Brady Insurances Ltd A.C.F.L. Division 3 Round 2
Sat - Templeport v Shannon Gaels - not too sure about div 3 in general, both teams beaten last wk, but going for Shannon Gaels - the goals killed them last wk so if they stop them this wk, 1 or 2 point win
Munterconnacht v Butlersbridge - again a tight one, munterconnacht to make home advantage count
Corlough v Swanlinbar - good win for corlough last week but I could see Swad having too much for them this wk, Swad by 3 or 4
Cornafean v Kildallon - Killdallon to bounce back after last weeks defeat
Laragh Utd v Mountnugent - again potential cracker, both will be in the shake up for promotion if Laragh can handle Givney they'll win but I don't think they will so Mountnugent by 2
Bailieboro v Killygarry - bailieboro should win this by 5 or more
Arva v Ballymachugh - not too sure, ballymachugh haven't played yet so Arva with a game under the belt and home advantage by 2


Having seen both clubs on the opening weekend Celt Man I'd have to disagree. You'll definitely have to tighten up around the half back line to stop the leaguers overlapping half-backs and midfiled.

Now in fairness, you'd hardly expect me to come out and say Killeshandra are gonna give us a kicking, they beat us last year in the league by 3 and we beat them in the champo by 2 or 3 so I'll say it'll be tight, so in a tight game where I come be playing, I'll always back ourselves otherwise there would be no point in playing
Steady on Celt Man. I appreciate your point completely. I was just offering my unbiased, informed (based on seeing both teams) opinion. Maybe just skip your games as you did quite well with last weeks efforts.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on March 07, 2009, 12:39:55 PM
Any confirmed starting fifteen for tonight? Or is Carr keeping it all under wraps?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: jimjim on March 07, 2009, 02:15:11 PM
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Imperial Bar A.C.F.L. Division 1 Round 2
Denn v Cavan Gaels - Cavan Gaels by 2
Gowna v Cuchulainns - Cuchulainns by 3
Castlerahan v Killygarry - Draw
Lavey v Crosserlough - Lavey by 2
Belturbet v Mullahoran - Mullahorn by 3
Ramor Utd. v Redhills - Ramor by 2
Lacken v Ballinagh - Draw

Cathal Brady Audi A.C.F.L. Division 2 Round 2
Cootehill v Killeshandra - Draw
Drumalee v Cavan Gaels - Drumalee by 3
Drumgoon v Kingscourt - Kingscourt by 3
Ballyhaise v Killinkere - Ballyhaise by 3
Drung v Drumlane - Drumlan by 2
Shercock v Knockbride - Knockbride by 2
Kill v Crosserlough - Crosserlough by 1
John Brady Insurances Ltd A.C.F.L. Division 3 Round 2
Sat - Templeport v Shannon Gaels - Draw
Munterconnacht v Butlersbridge - Bridge by 3
Corlough v Swanlinbar -  Swad by 5
Cornafean v Kildallon - Killdallon by 3
Laragh Utd v Mountnugent - Laragh by 3
Bailieboro v Killygarry - Baileboro by 5
Arva v Ballymachugh - Ballymachugh by 2/3

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Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on March 07, 2009, 03:20:53 PM
Quote from: Lawrence of Knockbride on March 07, 2009, 10:08:28 AM

Steady on Celt Man. I appreciate your point completely. I was just offering my unbiased, informed (based on seeing both teams) opinion. Maybe just skip your games as you did quite well with last weeks efforts.

Sorry lost the run of myself there, auld blood was up from training!! Lovely day for a match!!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on March 07, 2009, 08:20:38 PM
Two points up at half time but sounds like we are playing with a fairly strong wind, Coulter not playing for Down, two yellow cards, including Mulvey on our side. Get the impression that Sheridan and Hannon are steady in the full back line. Larry in for Pierson, Lyng off injured. Improved performance, will it be enough, who knows
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on March 07, 2009, 09:37:29 PM
Only heard it via Northern Sound (!) on the net so what you can take out of it is anybodys guess. Anyway much better result. Gather they played at a much greater tempo than the previous games (thats probably stating the obivous). Got a lot of bodies behind the ball and Sheridan/Hannon seemed to make a bit of a difference in defence. attack got good press-Johnston, Martin Reilly and Cullivan at full forward seemed to work. Had to feck off on family duty midway through the second half (damn) but sounds like Givney started off handy enough in the middle when he came on.

Am sure Myles and some of our other travelling support will be able to shed much more light. Would lift the mood a lot, we need to build  now against Limerick in Breffni next weekend.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on March 07, 2009, 09:48:11 PM
Had to make do with the wireless myself. BY the sounds of things Mackey played very well along with Galligan and Gibney when introduced. Sheridan received good reports at full back too. Worryingly we let Down back into the game and failed to score in the last fifteen minutes but a great result all the same.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on March 07, 2009, 10:28:58 PM
Still on the way home, god bless the mobile. Absolutely cracking result unbelievable second half performance against the wind. Mackey Martin Reilly and cullivan worked the ball short fierce well. Down looked hopeless more than a few times. The full back line were bad, more good luck than good defending but sure I'll take it anyway.  Galliagan went missing for long stretches of the game but in truth without Keating and Givney we wouldn't have won. Keating kicked some great scores from play
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on March 07, 2009, 10:47:28 PM
Also how did Larry fare boys? was he skinning???
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on March 07, 2009, 11:12:35 PM
Team was Miller, Hannon Sheridan Fannin, McCutcheon flanagan crowe, galligan Mulvey (Givney) martin Reilly, Lyng (keating) Mackey jelly cullivan larry. Larry done well kicked a good point in first half. No competition though when Pierson comes back
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on March 07, 2009, 11:27:57 PM
Reasons to be cheerful:

1. Without having seen the game. if you were told after Longford, Tipp and Down we would have one win out of three which would you have expected? Which would you have wanted?

2. Important blow struck for potential first round clash.

3. Most importantly as far as I'm concerned, for the first time in god knows how long we seem to have available a few big lads who can play a bit of ball-Sheridan, McCutcheon, Crowe, Galligan, Walsh, Givney, Keating, Cullivan, McCabe. This has to give us options.

4. Absolutely vital to build on this next week.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: whats my name on March 08, 2009, 12:37:15 AM
ill agree with celt man sheridan looked suspect in at F.B at times and he did get very lucky at times but a good result all in all very impressed with mackey and keating good showing!!!!!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on March 08, 2009, 10:48:19 AM
Made the trip too lads. Got drowned and my hands are still numb. A great fighting win given that the wind almost doubled in strength for the 1st 10 minutes of the 2nd half and in that time we increased our lead. I don't think previous posters are givin Galligan enough credit. He was my man of the match. He fielded some great ball, knocked ball down to his half backs and his work rate was outstanding. One minute he is our corner forward position the next hes at corner back. Our FB line struggled to get tight in the 1st half, conceding ball before trying to win it back. I think they tightened up a lot in the 2nd half with Dermot Shierdan getting the better of his man eventually. Down pumped a load of high ball in to our goal mouth near the end but we dealt with it fairly ok. Half back line were ok. Flanagan being the best and did very well in the 2nd half breaking up tackles and moving the ball on. 2 subs Givney and Keating did well. Givney fiedling a load of kickouts and keating getting two nice points. In the Half forwards Martin Reilly worked hard without doing a lot going forward, Lyng was decent enough before going off. In the 2nd half Mackey put in a tremendous display. On these pages I have given him a bit of abuse in the past but I hold my hand up now and say he has something to offer the team. He was a great outlet fo us into the wind and he carried the ball huge distances at times. He seems to have got the rid of the stupid decisions he used to make and gives nice simple ball. He would have run Galligan close for man of the match. Cullivan played most of the game around the middle and like Mackey was a great outlet. He is an intelligent footballer that can hold up the ball and wait till the best pass is on. Larry was decent in the 1st half and scored one peach of a point. He too was witnessed passing the ball that shocked all around me. He tired in the 2nd half and was replaced. JOhnstone looked unfit but still scored  one tremensous point of his left foot from a tight angle to the left of the posts into the wind. He followed that up a few minutes later with a  point from the rh side line into the wind.

Individual performances aside Cavan showed great character. They worked hard and displayed hunger to show all us internet warriors that they are not a bad team when they want to be. Attitude can make a real difference. Down took us for granted, played a weakened team and then started bringing on the big guns to dig them out of a hole but still we did not waver. I just hope the heads don't swell now and we go out next Satuday thinking we have the game won! I'm of for a hot whiskey :)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on March 08, 2009, 10:49:57 AM
Well my first Cavan game of the year and I must have brought them luck. Have to say that the brand of football that we played in the 2nd half against terrible conditions was some of the best football I have ever seen Cavan play. Central to this was Cullivan who came out to midfield when Mulvey got gate.His work rate was immense.Mackey was also outstanding and if reproduces a performance like that he is a shoe-in for wing half forward.Down couldnt handle him at all.Flanagan may not be the answer at centre half but man can he play football,he hardly put a foot wrong last night.
Sheridan is not the answer at FB but still did well enough.Coped grand with Coulter for the few minutes he was on. As the game wore on Hannon and Fannin both did very well.IMO Keith Fannin is good enough for that team and has rarely let Cavan down no matter what Keoghan thought of him.
RednBlack I think that John McCutcheon was playing on instructions when not stepping up on their number 12,he was doing feck all damage so I dont see why he should have followed him. he was minding the shop IMO. Thought the young lads did well when introduced,Givney must have caught 4 clean balls at Midfield.Keating kicked 3 points and won a world of ball but the lad needs to look up,he lost the ball 3 times in the last 10 minutes at crucial times and a better team will punish them mistakes.he is far too selfish still and needs alot of coaching to knock it out but he definitely has potential.
Martin Reillys work rate was superb and some of his passing was excellent,I would never have replaced him with the Mad one,Eddie Reilly wouldnt kno how to play controlled possesion football like Cavan had to play last night.The one ball he got he gave it away.
Galligan drifted in and out of the game but he is a presence in the centre and we all know we need big men.Whether he is the answer time will tell but he is still learning and should be given time.
Jelly wasnt at his best but we have come to expect his best all the time.he still kicked 6 points 3 from play,with one magnificent effort in the 2nd half from a very tight angle.One thing I dont like is his bitching to other players,this has to stop.He cant expect the perfect pass all the time.
Larry did well also and worked his socks off,he was actually looking up last night and finding a man with the ball so maybe Carr and Peter are working on him.He kicked one superb score out on the left in the 1st half.
Overall a Great performance and lads really stood up and were counted last nite.They restored a bit of pride to Cavan and thats the main thing.On the negative side it was hard to believe how bad Down were at times and their total lack of tactics when they had the wind.But a win when not many expected it will do.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on March 08, 2009, 11:50:19 AM
Fair fucks to ya on the stats RednBlack, ya must be a journalist or something if ya can take them kinda notes on a game!? I agree with ya about the breaking ball, we have to get in there more although I thought Flanagan was good in that regard.
I dont usually like Mr Coldrick as a ref being from Meath and all that but I thought last nite he gave anything that was in it to us especially in the 2nd half.One or 2 crazy decisions actually went our way for once.Not sure what happened with Mulveys sending off, I believe it was retaliation but it was the linesman who got that wrong.There was one very high tackle on Dermot Sheridan that went unnoticed should have been a yellow.Apart from that I thought he was grand.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: whats my name on March 08, 2009, 12:03:03 PM
keating got 4 points i think his first point when he came on was a peach of a score id give mackey man of the match played really well he gave some intelligent ball in and in the second half carried the ball when we had the strong breeze against us instead of kicking it aimlessly into the goal keepers hands!!!!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on March 08, 2009, 12:34:32 PM
From the Match Thread

QuoteWell done to Cavan and back to the drawing board for Down. Poor, poor effort and maybe Division 3 is about right.Struggling to find a positive- Luke Howard was the pick of our defenders until he was yellow carded, Kevin Mc Kernan was one of the few up for it, typified by his block in the 70th minute but the defence remains our greatest worry.Dee Rafferty also got tore in but they badly need to learn to tackle- the first 15 of the second half was brutal .Down have struggled against teams who withdraw a HF to HB but , to be fair, Cian Mackey has some engine in him, and was the difference.Playing the spare man in front of the fullback only works if teams are lumping it in but Cavan's whole game plan was to work it in, particularly in the second half.Holding it up for the excellent Seanie Johnstone was the right tactic, particularly in the second half- Cullivan and the sub Keating were also good.
Jackie has become an embarrassment and Dan is far from match-fit- a bad move to throw Ambrose in on a dirty physical night - ironically he could have won the game if he had connected with Benny's fisted cross but he needs more time before coming back .I can't understand what happened to Kearney - if the team isn't named until Friday , what happened ?And is it true that Benny got injured at soccer or was that just a rumour from the stands?
Half forward line did not count, Daniel has lost whatever he had, Rony showed and tried and Mc Comiskey recovered after a poor start when he came on.If we don't get wins in Longford or Limerickwe could be looking down rather than up - I don't think it will happen but a bad night in more ways than one.
No surprise that Cavan produced - they are a big fit team- excellent FB line, strong spine and Mackey and Johnstone easily the best players on display.Obviously their Sigerson men bring a lot as hard to fathom how this team could lose to Tipp.Interested in their management- Carr was static and seemed to read the game like Harte- nothing like his time with Roscommon - while Peter Reilly called the shots.He was always a brainy footballer and not surprised he's in there. DJ used up a lot more energy than all 3 of our midfielders- would not like to have been in that dressing room. Ross will be sick. Somebody give me a reason to be optimistic.

Anyone think that would be said about a Cavan team.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on March 08, 2009, 01:07:28 PM
Most points covered so no point regurgetating it. I agree with Boojangles in that we have to assume that McCutcheon was told to withdraw and leave his man which was strange considering how they worked the ball out from the keeper in the first half. I'm not sure what the spare man was meant to achieve but it didn't work IMO. Also I agree with Myles in that Galligan did an incredible amount of work off the ball.
On the negative side I agree with Boojangles again on the Jelly factor. He took a free from the right wing on the 45 that was made for Martin Reilly. Then when Reilly questions it he gets a look from Johnston. Then the next sideline ball from that side, again made for Reilly he holds on to the ball instead of handing it over and is forced to take it by the ref as he's delaying. He's an undbouted talent but as I've said before he makes it hard for us to get behind him.
I also agree that Sherdian was lucky at times at FB but in all fairness he was often out in front of his man and breaking ball. Compare that to the performances at full-back in the Queens, Longford & Tipp games (the ones I was at) and it's an improvement. It might be square peg in round hole tactics but it's better that than no peg. And until Smith is brought in from Killygarry then I'm happy enough with him there.
The players should hold their heads up Today and tomorrow and then focus on Limerick and demand the same standards of themselves.............and each other (ala Jerry Springer ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on March 08, 2009, 02:32:17 PM
Thanks for all the match reports lads. Apart from the fact that the Down lads were really peed off with their own performance it is very hard to take any negatives from the game. We were minus Walsh, McCabe and Pierson (was he injured?) as well which is worth noting. I thought it was a very interesting comment from some of the Down lads that Peter Reilly seemed really active on the sideline with Carr standing back a bit. I always had a lot of time for Peter as a player, he's a very intelligent and focused guy and we may get a bonus out of all this in growing one of our own.

What's the opinion of our playing posters on Eoin Smith form Killygarry. There seems to be a bit of a groundswell of opinion that he is worth a look in the full back line. Didn't he play full back for Sligo IT a few years ago when they were quite strong? Think he's had a few injury problems. The impression  I get is that he wouldn't be pushed off the ball in a hurry anyway. Absolutely vital now that there is no pissing around and we clock up another win against Limerick next weekend, which will NOT be easy.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4sam on March 08, 2009, 02:53:44 PM
Sean Brady was at full forward for us the last day out so if he is on from should prove a good test of Eoin Smiths credentials. Our boys will tired from a tough game last night. Thankfully Sean wasn't playing.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on March 08, 2009, 05:36:34 PM
Any other results from the club scene? We drew with Killeshandra today, they drew with the last kick of the ball - second week in a row. We had a man sent off with 15 mins to go and missed two great goals chances so I'm pretty disappointed. Kingscourt beat Drumgoon by 5 and Knockbride beat Shercock well too
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on March 08, 2009, 05:39:57 PM
Keating scored 3 points.1 in the first half,2 in the second.
Eoin Smith is definitely worth a look at.Was in a few trial games with him and he is very strong and solid.I would call him a no nonsense Full-back.If he gets all injuries cleared up Im sure they will have a look.
Peter Reilly definitely came across as very vocal last night,I like this idea of him and one or 2 others in the Orange bibs sprinting across the field to give instruction or just to encourage even.It keeps lads on their toes.
We bet the Gaels by a point today.We made hard work of it,missed a penalty and a few handy goal chances but a wins a win.Im out injured at the mo and my heart still isnt right from watching on the side line.
Ballyhaise were beating Killinkere 2-9 to 1-7 with few minutes to go,it started to rain so it was time to go.
Any other results?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on March 08, 2009, 06:16:13 PM
Quote from: Celt_Man on March 08, 2009, 05:36:34 PM
Any other results from the club scene? We drew with Killeshandra today, they drew with the last kick of the ball - second week in a row. We had a man sent off with 15 mins to go and missed two great goals chances so I'm pretty disappointed. Kingscourt beat Drumgoon by 5 and Knockbride beat Shercock well too


Was watching ye again Today Celt Man. Poor game although I assume a lot of it was down to the conditions and the ref. They did level it late but then ye levelled late too. Probably a fair enough result. Some laugh the ref getting the score wrong. Just as well some of your lads questioned it or you could have been robbed off a point
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on March 08, 2009, 06:40:32 PM
Killygarry robbed Castlerahan 2-5 to 1-7 with a last minute goal. Scrappy game. Mackey showed well first half kicking four point but faded out!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on March 08, 2009, 07:10:41 PM
Here you go boys

IMPERIAL BAR ACFL DIVISION 1             
Denn   1-8   1-11   Cavan Gaels   
Gowna   2-7   2-4   Cuchulainns   
Castlerahan   1-7   2-5   Killygarry   
Lavey   1-4   1-4   Crosserlough   
Belturbet   0-10   1-6   Mullahoran   
Ramor Utd   0-8   0-8   Redhills   
Lacken   2-4   2-8   Ballinagh   
            
CATHAL BRADY AUDI ACFL DIVISION 2             
Cootehill   0-8   0-8   Killeshandra   
Drumalee   0-9   0-8   Cavan Gaels   
Drumgoon   0-6   0-11   Kingscourt   
Ballyhaise   2-10   1-7   Killinkere   
Drung   0-5   1-5   Drumlane   
Shercock   0-4   2-9   Knockbride   
Kill   1-11   1-7   Crosserlough   
            
JOHN BRADY INSURANCES LTD ACFL DIVISION 3             
Corlough   1-5   0-11   Swanlinbar   
Bailieborough   2-4   0-2   Killygarry   
Arva   1-5   0-9   Ballymachugh   
Templeport   2-8   1-10   Shannon Gaels   
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on March 08, 2009, 07:24:57 PM
Team Pld Won Draw Lost For Against Diff Points
Roscommon 3 2 0 1 44 34 10 4
Down 3 2 0 1 44 39 5 4
Tipperary 3 2 0 1 39 42 -3 4
Longford 3 1 1 1 39 38 1 3
Offaly 3 1 1 1 32 40 -8 3
Louth 3 1 0 2 45 36 9 2
Cavan 3 1 0 2 35 38 -3 2
Limerick 3 1 0 2 33 44 -11 2
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on March 08, 2009, 07:25:17 PM
Quote from: RednBlack on March 08, 2009, 11:37:14 AM
have just completed some stat analysis on last nights game. in first half we won 22% possession from breaking ball at midfield and 26% in second half. my point about their number 12 was based on the fact that from Down kick outs he was involved in either primary or secondary possession from kickouts 72% of the time he was on the field. that is why i felt McCutcheon should have pushed in tighter to him. we really need to improve this aspect of our game as Galligan and Walsh when he plays are good at breaking ball but we need someone to go and hoover it up. another interesting number is that in the second half from attacks inside the Down 45m line we converted 5 out of 11 intrusions into scores which in the conditions last night is very very good.

Myles: were you part of that poor crew down in the front of the stand who had to scramble at half time?? some shower that!!

What was everyones opinion of Mr Goldrick in the middle last night? Have the new rules gone by the wayside or are players now allowed to give one good tackle over the shoulder/around the head and only get a black book. This is the third league game I have witnessed a number of these tackles going in and no yellow yet it is stated clearly in the new rules that its a straight yellow. Just a question??

I was sitting with 6/7 brave leaguers on the entrance side of the stand. We didn't get under the cover so there was a bit of a scramble from some of the less hardy lads. I didn't scramble myself cos i'm just too hardy. I was the one with the bermuda shirt and shorts :D

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on March 08, 2009, 07:26:40 PM
Quote from: cavan4ever on March 08, 2009, 07:24:57 PM
Team Pld Won Draw Lost For Against Diff Points
Roscommon 3 2 0 1 44 34 10 4
Down 3 2 0 1 44 39 5 4
Tipperary 3 2 0 1 39 42 -3 4
Longford 3 1 1 1 39 38 1 3
Offaly 3 1 1 1 32 40 -8 3
Louth 3 1 0 2 45 36 9 2
Cavan 3 1 0 2 35 38 -3 2
Limerick 3 1 0 2 33 44 -11 2


You know, if we were to win all our remaining games we could still get promoted. This division is going to be very tight.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on March 08, 2009, 08:16:29 PM
we beat Killinkere today, in horrendous conditions,
Best for us were Mark Brennan who kept James Clarke quiet,Michael Rooney at Full back, Shane Briody at wing back,
Stephen Smith at wing forward who was terrific from frees, Collie Reily at Centre Forward and Niall and Eamon Costello in the full forward line.

went down to Newry last night after telling myself all week that i wouldnt,
i thought Dermot Sheridan has a great game at full back despite a couple of worrying moments.
Best full back line that we can put out,hope they stick with it.
Ronan Flanagan i thought was very good and Johnny Crowe done fairly well also,John McCutcheon should have been let follow his man,but i wont attack Tommy Carr for trying different tactics.
Midfield,i thought Dan Gordon was very prominent in the first half until he ran out of steam, Galligan drifted in and out,hasnt put together a full great game this year yet,but he does show flashes of his undoubted ability.
Thought Martin Reily,Ray Cullivan and Cian Mackey especially were terrific,Michael Lyng and Jelly were good,disappointed in Larry, he  scored a great point, but still needs to drop some of the weight.
David Givney has a terrific pair of hands,Eugene Keating is just a terrific all round footballer,(scored 0-8 for cuchullains last week).

id imagine it will be David Givney and Ciaran Galligan at midfield next week, with Eugene Keating wing forward, perhaps Martin Reily switching into the corner and Larry losing out.
i think Rays position at IC level wil be full forward,hes such a handful with his movement and aerial ability.

There will be no Tommy Carr out calls this week  :P
i hope he makes me look like an idiot a few more times with wins like last night's, this year.  :D


Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on March 08, 2009, 08:36:44 PM
I think you need to watch Galligan closely. I did last night. He contested every kickout and Down were really struggling  to get to the ball in the air before him. Clean catching was difficult in those condition. What is really impressing me is his running of the ball. When is the last time Cavan had a midfielder that ran up and down the pitch all night. He supported his men going forward and he tracked men back all night. Down could not run with him. If McCabe put in that performance for Cavan we'd all be saying how great he was. Cavan would not have won that game without Galligan. Suddenly, we have options in the middle of the park. McCabe, Galligan, Cullivan, Givney and Mulvey will all be fighting for those spots.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tierworker blue on March 08, 2009, 08:52:38 PM
Cheers for all the reports folks...could'nt make it north myself. Good to get a win under the belt and some improved performances...hopefully we can build on it and try to achieve some consistancy. Are we turning a corner?! Lets hope so!

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on March 08, 2009, 09:35:08 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on March 08, 2009, 08:16:29 PM
we beat Killinkere today, in horrendous conditions,
Best for us were Mark Brennan who kept James Clarke quiet,Michael Rooney at Full back, Shane Briody at wing back,
Stephen Smith at wing forward who was terrific from frees, Collie Reily at Centre Forward and Niall and Eamon Costello in the full forward line.

went down to Newry last night after telling myself all week that i wouldnt,
i thought Dermot Sheridan has a great game at full back despite a couple of worrying moments.
Best full back line that we can put out,hope they stick with it.
Ronan Flanagan i thought was very good and Johnny Crowe done fairly well also,John McCutcheon should have been let follow his man,but i wont attack Tommy Carr for trying different tactics.
Midfield,i thought Dan Gordon was very prominent in the first half until he ran out of steam, Galligan drifted in and out,hasnt put together a full great game this year yet,but he does show flashes of his undoubted ability.
Thought Martin Reily,Ray Cullivan and Cian Mackey especially were terrific,Michael Lyng and Jelly were good,disappointed in Larry, he  scored a great point, but still needs to drop some of the weight.
David Givney has a terrific pair of hands,Eugene Keating is just a terrific all round footballer,(scored 0-8 for cuchullains last week).

id imagine it will be David Givney and Ciaran Galligan at midfield next week, with Eugene Keating wing forward, perhaps Martin Reily switching into the corner and Larry losing out.
i think Rays position at IC level wil be full forward,hes such a handful with his movement and aerial ability.

There will be no Tommy Carr out calls this week  :P
i hope he makes me look like an idiot a few more times with wins like last night's, this year.  :D

speaking of cullivan, I presume he is still with ye. was he involved today or this year yet?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Drung on March 08, 2009, 10:01:49 PM
QuoteI think Galligan was on but he kept drifitng in and out of vision

Were Mulvey and McKeever there?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on March 08, 2009, 10:21:47 PM
Quote from: Celt_Man on March 08, 2009, 09:35:08 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on March 08, 2009, 08:16:29 PM
we beat Killinkere today, in horrendous conditions,
Best for us were Mark Brennan who kept James Clarke quiet,Michael Rooney at Full back, Shane Briody at wing back,
Stephen Smith at wing forward who was terrific from frees, Collie Reily at Centre Forward and Niall and Eamon Costello in the full forward line.

went down to Newry last night after telling myself all week that i wouldnt,
i thought Dermot Sheridan has a great game at full back despite a couple of worrying moments.
Best full back line that we can put out,hope they stick with it.
Ronan Flanagan i thought was very good and Johnny Crowe done fairly well also,John McCutcheon should have been let follow his man,but i wont attack Tommy Carr for trying different tactics.
Midfield,i thought Dan Gordon was very prominent in the first half until he ran out of steam, Galligan drifted in and out,hasnt put together a full great game this year yet,but he does show flashes of his undoubted ability.
Thought Martin Reily,Ray Cullivan and Cian Mackey especially were terrific,Michael Lyng and Jelly were good,disappointed in Larry, he  scored a great point, but still needs to drop some of the weight.
David Givney has a terrific pair of hands,Eugene Keating is just a terrific all round footballer,(scored 0-8 for cuchullains last week).

id imagine it will be David Givney and Ciaran Galligan at midfield next week, with Eugene Keating wing forward, perhaps Martin Reily switching into the corner and Larry losing out.
i think Rays position at IC level wil be full forward,hes such a handful with his movement and aerial ability.

There will be no Tommy Carr out calls this week  :P
i hope he makes me look like an idiot a few more times with wins like last night's, this year.  :D

speaking of cullivan, I presume he is still with ye. was he involved today or this year yet?

He hasnt been involved this year yet,IF he is still with us Celt Man. Your guess is as good as mine.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on March 08, 2009, 11:25:40 PM
JUst catching up with these momentous events now, suffice to say I'm a happy maniac. All we need now is for Max to come in and tell us he backed Cavan to beat Down the day after we lost to Tipp, and then my weekend will be complete ;D

Expected a big response from our lads but was still surprised that we actually won. Delighted actually. What impresses me most is that we now seem to have a lot of options for various positions and although the full back line still isn't watertight, we at least look like a team with proper and intelligent input from the sideline, and with grit and fire and pride and all those good things we haven't seen much of for a long time. It's a good score for TC after he stuck his neck out last week and backed us to win the game, I hope now that he has the full panel under his thumb for the first time we can really get a measure of what he will be able to do.

I just hope this wasn't a one-off repsonse to the criticism after Tipp, we have to perform in every game with that level of commitment and graft and can't bask in this overlong and then revert to type when there's no big point to prove. From a hopeless position after two games, this win is a huge boost and with Louth having pissed on their chips against Offaly we have a right chance of promotion now if we can maintain this level of performance. All teams in the division can still retain realistic hopes of finishing in the top two as just two points separates first from last, it's a fair dogfight now for sure!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Onlooker on March 09, 2009, 12:05:45 AM
Maybe this week-end's results in Newry and Kilmallock might suggest that both Tipp and Cavan are better teams than most of you were saying after the game in Breffni Park.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on March 09, 2009, 12:19:26 AM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on March 08, 2009, 08:36:44 PM
I think you need to watch Galligan closely. I did last night. He contested every kickout and Down were really struggling  to get to the ball in the air before him. Clean catching was difficult in those condition. What is really impressing me is his running of the ball. When is the last time Cavan had a midfielder that ran up and down the pitch all night. He supported his men going forward and he tracked men back all night. Down could not run with him. If McCabe put in that performance for Cavan we'd all be saying how great he was. Cavan would not have won that game without Galligan. Suddenly, we have options in the middle of the park. McCabe, Galligan, Cullivan, Givney and Mulvey will all be fighting for those spots.

Galligan is a terrific athlete with very good football ability and a great attitude, in my opinion hes done enough in periods of games this year(which ive seen, the only one ive been disappointed with him was Tipp) to warrant nearly an automatic place at midfield. None of the other options in Givney,McCabe, Cullivan,Mulvey and Walsh have his engine to get up and down the pitch,even if hes not playing particularly well at times, he will give us that.
id like to see Givney alongside him at MF against Limerick.
Might not even be a bad idea to put Walsh as a sweeper in the backline IF limerick have a tall full forward.
Good to see some big men showing promise.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on March 09, 2009, 02:26:54 PM
I think for things to click with that Cavan team we need to create as much space in the forward line as possible. My father has been going on and on about the need for Cavan to play a 3rd Midfielder leaving Jelly and Pierson inside.His ideal man for the 3rd midfielder role is Paul the Gunner(being from Mullahoran) and I suppose he has a point.He is excellent in the air,has the reactions of a cat to get in for breaking ball,he is very comfortable on the ball,he can attack and defend and he is very fit.He is also a good passer of the ball which is vital.I think Cullivan could work also in this role.Judging by his performance Saturday nite,a free role would definitely suit him.BHMan and Myles talked about the yards Galligan covered and they are right,Galligan was crying out for ball around the Down goals a few times but never got it but Cullivan I felt covered even more ground,he was everywhere.
You can say that the opposing team can just drop a man back in front of the full-forward line but it is very hard to cover the runs of a 2 man full-forward line on an open field like Breifne Park,anybody who has played in the States or 13-a side could tell you that.With Johnson and Pierson firing on all guns you have 2 of the most dangerous forwards in the province.And if that isnt working you always have the option of throwing in a big target man.
Just on another point,a quick question for anybody who was in Newry-Would any of yous think that Cavan could have played the brilliant controlled possesion game on Saturday nite if Dermot McCabe was playing?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: the salmon of knowledge on March 09, 2009, 03:04:59 PM
spot on BHM, givney and galligan for MF next week hopefully,galligan is a good foil for givney as he does a hell of alot of tracking back that goes unhearlded, a good footballer, but it seems to be his great attitude and application that sets him apart, when givney is on form, catching well we dont need a 3rd midfielder, as there is no reason to crowd the midfield, keating really threw his name into the ring for future games, mackey also
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on March 09, 2009, 03:45:00 PM
Quote from: the salmon of knowledge on March 09, 2009, 03:04:59 PM
spot on BHM, givney and galligan for MF next week hopefully,galligan is a good foil for givney as he does a hell of alot of tracking back that goes unhearlded, a good footballer, but it seems to be his great attitude and application that sets him apart, when givney is on form, catching well we dont need a 3rd midfielder, as there is no reason to crowd the midfield, keating really threw his name into the ring for future games, mackey also
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As well as Givney did,there is a hell of a difference between a league match in March and the intensity of an Ulster Championship match.We seen the stats that RednBlack had up about the Down game,we won something like 25% of breaks or possession at Midfield.imagine if we had have broke even!Midfield is a minefield and if we are to have any chance of competing against the Tyrones,Derrys or Armaghs, it will be at getting more breaking ball and not winning clean possession-Just ask Mickey Harte and Brian Dooher.Maybe RedNBlack can be more precise but I would say that 90% of ball at Midfield is broke in the modern game,no matter whether we have Daragh O Se or Sean Cavanagh,which we do not.My main point of the 3rd midfielder was to create more space for our inside forwards-not to crowd midfield. But we can not rely on David Givney,Ciaran Galligan,Nicholas Walsh or anybody else to win enough possession therefore its Breaks,Breaks and more Breaks.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Drung on March 09, 2009, 05:26:00 PM
Boojangles, did your father consider running for the Cavan job?

Just curious.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on March 09, 2009, 05:30:47 PM
Quote from: Drung on March 09, 2009, 05:26:00 PM
Boojangles, did your father consider running for the Cavan job?

Just curious.
No, why do you ask?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on March 09, 2009, 05:52:13 PM
Quote from: RednBlack on March 09, 2009, 04:21:19 PM
Quote from: boojangles on March 09, 2009, 03:45:00 PM
Quote from: the salmon of knowledge on March 09, 2009, 03:04:59 PM
spot on BHM, givney and galligan for MF next week hopefully,galligan is a good foil for givney as he does a hell of alot of tracking back that goes unhearlded, a good footballer, but it seems to be his great attitude and application that sets him apart, when givney is on form, catching well we dont need a 3rd midfielder, as there is no reason to crowd the midfield, keating really threw his name into the ring for future games, mackey also
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As well as Givney did,there is a hell of a difference between a league match in March and the intensity of an Ulster Championship match.We seen the stats that RednBlack had up about the Down game,we won something like 25% of breaks or possession at Midfield.imagine if we had have broke even!Midfield is a minefield and if we are to have any chance of competing against the Tyrones,Derrys or Armaghs, it will be at getting more breaking ball and not winning clean possession-Just ask Mickey Harte and Brian Dooher.Maybe RedNBlack can be more precise but I would say that 90% of ball at Midfield is broke in the modern game,no matter whether we have Daragh O Se or Sean Cavanagh,which we do not.My main point of the 3rd midfielder was to create more space for our inside forwards-not to crowd midfield. But we can not rely on David Givney,Ciaran Galligan,Nicholas Walsh or anybody else to win enough possession therefore its Breaks,Breaks and more Breaks.

thats a pretty impressive guesstimate!!!! On Saturday between wides and scoring kick outs there was 44 in total. Only 4 clean catches were made. Thats a 91% breaking ball rate.

If you study the difference in Galligan and Walsh under the ball you will see Galligan bats it down whereas Walsh tries to direct it volleyball style out to a player. This is a part of Galligan's game he needs to work on. Even from talking to squad players they will tell you that he can run forever but needs to put in Sean Cavanagh style hours to get his ball skills up to IC level. Even allowing for the horrible conditions last weekend and his fantastic running a number of times he spilled the ball in possession either during pick up stage or soloing. He looks damn good moving around the field so I hope Carr puts in that work with him similar to what Harte did with Cavanagh to get him strong on both feet.

And it is great to see a big strong Cavan team on the park. We no longer look like we can be bullied easily and that was a promise Carr made at the start. That he would find big men and coach them into IC footballers if he has to at this stage. Lets hope the ball keeps rolling next Saturday.

Having watched McCabe at our place a last week I have to say his only position if at all is on the square. He just couldn't get up and down the park in a club league game. I know he ended up in bed the rest of the week sick so maybe he wasn't feeling well even then but with Walsh Galligan Givney and Cullivan around the place I would say give these guys the scope to learn and gel and not have them looking over their shoulders for the old brigade to return for summer football.

Only a few weeks ago some people were talking about Giveny being too slow in releasing ball etc when at FF. I know he had a couple of nice moments catching on Saturday (he did that at FF too) but is MF a position for him if he is seen as too slow inside??

i believe you can afford one midfielder who isnt the quickest, if you have an athletic fast player alongside him, which we have in Galligan.
a comparison in type would be Colin Holmes(not very quick) and Enda McGinley(very athletic) who combined well at midfield for Tyrone last year.
Before anyone says anything about that comparison,im not comparing them as players to our lads,but as type of players with certain strengths and weaknesses.
Its worth a go for 45-50 minutes of a league game,and if its not working, we can change it.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Swadman on March 09, 2009, 08:15:25 PM
Belturbet   0-10   1-6   Mullahoran.   Played in Kildallan. I hear there was a "shamozal" where a player thumped someone on the line. I dont know the details or who hit who but the sooner every club strictly controls how many they let into the field the better (I suggest all toged out subs + 6 max)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on March 10, 2009, 12:46:55 PM
Was talking to a Belturbet player last nite but got cut off before I got the full low down but basically the Belturbet player went to fetch the ball out of the Mullahoran dugouts to take a sideline ball when one of the selectors dropped an elbow as he went by,the Belturbet player(who I wouldnt mess with) turned around and split him.All hell broke loose I heard then.Now 2 wrongs don't make a right but I know myself in the heat of a game if an opposing selector met me with a shoulder or elbow I know exactly what Id end up doing.And I wouldnt apologise for it either.
Drung,ya never answered me?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Drung on March 10, 2009, 01:30:13 PM
He seems to be an expert from what you say, I just thought we could do with a man like that in charge.

I don't know either of you by the way.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on March 10, 2009, 02:11:40 PM
Imperial Bar A.C.F.L. Division 1 Round 2
Denn v Cavan Gaels - Cavan Gaels to win a close one                                                                                Right
Gowna v Cuchulainns - CuCu's to beat a Gowna team with tired county players                                                 Wrong
Castlerahan v Killygarry - forgot this one originally coz I was coming back to it - still not sure, maybe Castlerahan to shade it but tiredness of county boys could be for a big factor in last 10 mins                                                                                                                                Wrong
Lavey v Crosserlough - Lavey to beat - going by reports from last week - a poor C'lough side                              Wrong
Belturbet v Mullahoran - Belturbet to bounce back after last week                                                                  Wrong
Ramor Utd. v Redhills - one of the ties of the round, ramor to repeat last years div 2 final win                            Wrong
Lacken v Ballinagh - ballinagh to improve upon last wk's performance but local derbies like this are sometimes a lottery                   Right

Cathal Brady Audi A.C.F.L. Division 2 Round 2
Cootehill v Killeshandra - I think this is gonna be very tight but we have one of our main boys back - so ourselves by 1 or 2???       Wrong
Drumalee v Cavan Gaels - again a derby but you'd think Drumalee might be too much for CG, considering both CG teams are playing at same time        Right
Drumgoon v Kingscourt - Kingscourt by a point or two                                                                                                                Right
Ballyhaise v Killinkere - Ballyhaise to get things back on track by a goal or more                                                                               Right
Drung v Drumlane - always a tight game between these two especially down in bunnoe, going for a draw                                      Wrong
Shercock v Knockbride - Knockbride to win by 3 or 4, tierney and a lesser extend larry too much for Shercock to handle                   Right
Kill v Crosserlough - I believe Kill are still missing a few but the fact that C'lough are playing the same day and need a win in div 1 so won;t use the same players, kill by a point or two                                                                                                                                                                      Right

John Brady Insurances Ltd A.C.F.L. Division 3 Round 2
Sat - Templeport v Shannon Gaels - not too sure about div 3 in general, both teams beaten last wk, but going for Shannon Gaels - the goals killed them last wk so if they stop them this wk, 1 or 2 point win                                                                                                                                     Right
Munterconnacht v Butlersbridge - again a tight one, munterconnacht to make home advantage count                                        off
Corlough v Swanlinbar - good win for corlough last week but I could see Swad having too much for them this wk, Swad by 3 or 4   Right
Cornafean v Kildallon - Killdallon to bounce back after last weeks defeat                                                                                     Off
Laragh Utd v Mountnugent - again potential cracker, both will be in the shake up for promotion if Laragh can handle Givney they'll win but I don't think they will so Mountnugent by 2                                                                                                                                                              Off
Bailieboro v Killygarry - bailieboro should win this by 5 or more                                                                                                      Right
Arva v Ballymachugh - not too sure, ballymachugh haven't played yet so Arva with a game under the belt and home advantage by 2            Wrong

ten out of 18 right - 56% getting a bit closer to my college results now!!!
Just a point, it seems given the number of close games where I got the verdict wrong by one score or a draw that there was a good few entertaining games on despite the sticky conditions... I often think it's a pity that the league games aren't staggered a bit more, would enjoy taking in a couple of league games over the wkend.  It's one of the things I love about the championship, heading to games on thursday, friday, saturday and maybe one before you play on sunday or whatever way it works out....
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on March 10, 2009, 04:56:55 PM
Quote from: Drung on March 10, 2009, 01:30:13 PM
He seems to be an expert from what you say, I just thought we could do with a man like that in charge.

I don't know either of you by the way.
He would be very knowlegable about the game.He has been over alot of winning teams over the years both with my own club and his home club,all the way up through underage and onto Senior level. He was never involved with any County teams but he would definitely have been alot better than some selectors we would have seen involved in Cavan teams over the years.He can read a game and wouldnt freeze along the line like alot of managers but anyway,thats life.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Mr. Pain on March 10, 2009, 06:39:07 PM
Quote from: boojangles on March 10, 2009, 04:56:55 PM
Quote from: Drung on March 10, 2009, 01:30:13 PM
He seems to be an expert from what you say, I just thought we could do with a man like that in charge.

I don't know either of you by the way.
He would be very knowlegable about the game.He has been over alot of winning teams over the years both with my own club and his home club,all the way up through underage and onto Senior level. He was never involved with any County teams but he would definitely have been alot better than some selectors we would have seen involved in Cavan teams over the years.He can read a game and wouldnt freeze along the line like alot of managers but anyway,thats life.

Hey Daddy's boy, give us a break! If he was that good he'd be considered.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on March 10, 2009, 06:46:51 PM
Quote from: Mr. Pain on March 10, 2009, 06:39:07 PM
Quote from: boojangles on March 10, 2009, 04:56:55 PM
Quote from: Drung on March 10, 2009, 01:30:13 PM
He seems to be an expert from what you say, I just thought we could do with a man like that in charge.

I don't know either of you by the way.
He would be very knowlegable about the game.He has been over alot of winning teams over the years both with my own club and his home club,all the way up through underage and onto Senior level. He was never involved with any County teams but he would definitely have been alot better than some selectors we would have seen involved in Cavan teams over the years.He can read a game and wouldnt freeze along the line like alot of managers but anyway,thats life.

Hey Daddy's boy, give us a break! If he was that good he'd be considered.

What a gobshite.....

The man was asked a question and gave an answer... Do your stirring elsewhere
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on March 10, 2009, 06:50:52 PM
Quote from: Celt_Man on March 10, 2009, 06:46:51 PM
Quote from: Mr. Pain on March 10, 2009, 06:39:07 PM
Quote from: boojangles on March 10, 2009, 04:56:55 PM
Quote from: Drung on March 10, 2009, 01:30:13 PM
He seems to be an expert from what you say, I just thought we could do with a man like that in charge.

I don't know either of you by the way.
He would be very knowlegable about the game.He has been over alot of winning teams over the years both with my own club and his home club,all the way up through underage and onto Senior level. He was never involved with any County teams but he would definitely have been alot better than some selectors we would have seen involved in Cavan teams over the years.He can read a game and wouldnt freeze along the line like alot of managers but anyway,thats life.

Hey Daddy's boy, give us a break! If he was that good he'd be considered.

What a gobshite.....

The man was asked a question and gave an answer... Do your stirring elsewhere


:D :D :D :D Mr Pain your a Legend

Celt_Man relax
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on March 10, 2009, 07:04:53 PM
Button it Mr Pain. Coming in here once in a blue moon to stir shit. You are capable of better. What makes you think Cavan would consider good people for the management team. Were you asleep when the hired Donal Keoghan?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on March 10, 2009, 07:08:21 PM
Quote from: cavan4ever on March 10, 2009, 06:50:52 PM
Quote from: Celt_Man on March 10, 2009, 06:46:51 PM
Quote from: Mr. Pain on March 10, 2009, 06:39:07 PM
Quote from: boojangles on March 10, 2009, 04:56:55 PM
Quote from: Drung on March 10, 2009, 01:30:13 PM
He seems to be an expert from what you say, I just thought we could do with a man like that in charge.

I don't know either of you by the way.
He would be very knowlegable about the game.He has been over alot of winning teams over the years both with my own club and his home club,all the way up through underage and onto Senior level. He was never involved with any County teams but he would definitely have been alot better than some selectors we would have seen involved in Cavan teams over the years.He can read a game and wouldnt freeze along the line like alot of managers but anyway,thats life.

Hey Daddy's boy, give us a break! If he was that good he'd be considered.

What a gobshite.....

The man was asked a question and gave an answer... Do your stirring elsewhere


:D :D :D :D Mr Pain your a Legend

Celt_Man relax


Ahh here, no need for sniping comments like that, why bother coming on here once in a blue moon, referring to yourself in the third person and trying to stir shite???
I just don't see the point
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on March 10, 2009, 07:42:02 PM
Quote from: Drung on March 09, 2009, 05:26:00 PM
Boojangles, did your father consider running for the Cavan job?

Just curious.


Fairly comprehensive answer from Boojangles, you happy enough with his reply Drung?

Just curious
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Drung on March 10, 2009, 07:52:32 PM
Yes thanks Anglo Celt.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on March 10, 2009, 07:53:34 PM
Quote from: Mr. Pain on March 10, 2009, 06:39:07 PM
Quote from: boojangles on March 10, 2009, 04:56:55 PM
Quote from: Drung on March 10, 2009, 01:30:13 PM
He seems to be an expert from what you say, I just thought we could do with a man like that in charge.

I don't know either of you by the way.
He would be very knowlegable about the game.He has been over alot of winning teams over the years both with my own club and his home club,all the way up through underage and onto Senior level. He was never involved with any County teams but he would definitely have been alot better than some selectors we would have seen involved in Cavan teams over the years.He can read a game and wouldnt freeze along the line like alot of managers but anyway,thats life.

Hey Daddy's boy, give us a break! If he was that good he'd be considered.

Something tells me you wouldnt be mouting off as much if you werent hiding behind a pseudonym
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Mr. Pain on March 10, 2009, 08:31:31 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on March 10, 2009, 07:53:34 PM
Quote from: Mr. Pain on March 10, 2009, 06:39:07 PM
Quote from: boojangles on March 10, 2009, 04:56:55 PM
Quote from: Drung on March 10, 2009, 01:30:13 PM
He seems to be an expert from what you say, I just thought we could do with a man like that in charge.

I don't know either of you by the way.
He would be very knowlegable about the game.He has been over alot of winning teams over the years both with my own club and his home club,all the way up through underage and onto Senior level. He was never involved with any County teams but he would definitely have been alot better than some selectors we would have seen involved in Cavan teams over the years.He can read a game and wouldnt freeze along the line like alot of managers but anyway,thats life.

Hey Daddy's boy, give us a break! If he was that good he'd be considered.

Something tells me you wouldnt be mouting off as much if you werent hiding behind a pseudonym

Perhaps, "Ballyhaise Man". That's a very common name in Cavan, glad to see you're using your real name. The thing is a lot of people here need to relax. It is not too long ago that the morally proper Ballyhaise Man went on his rant about getting rid of Carr. Come on, would you say that to his face? Myles, don't tell Mr. Pain to button it. Celt Man, as C4ever said, relax. Finally, Boojangles, Drung set you up nicely for that rant you made. Obviously, sarcasm is alien to you. Rant over!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on March 10, 2009, 08:57:01 PM
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Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Swadman on March 10, 2009, 09:47:43 PM
 R n B
QuoteSo all, thoughts turn towards the Limerick boys coming up on Saturday. On a scale of 1 - 10 how confident would ye be of a comfortable win, a battle with a one point margin either way or another Tipp display (is that really possible  )?
Cavan Football is still like the Irish weather - totally unpredictable. I know its early days for Tommy but my hope would be that he can get a settled team playing to a structured plan, otherwise we'll still be bringing the sunglasses, wellies, factor 15, umberella, etc. not knowing what to expect.  8)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on March 10, 2009, 09:54:15 PM
Mr. Pain your'e an entertainer and welcome in my book. As for Limerick I'll go for a narrow win-2points. Celt Man, what did you make of the red card in your game on Sunday. I heard the opposition were fearing the worst for Fitzpatrick but maybe it's not as bad as it seemed. Terrible challenge. Hope it wasn't you. ???
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on March 10, 2009, 10:04:54 PM
Quote from: Mr. Pain on March 10, 2009, 06:39:07 PM
Quote from: boojangles on March 10, 2009, 04:56:55 PM
Quote from: Drung on March 10, 2009, 01:30:13 PM
He seems to be an expert from what you say, I just thought we could do with a man like that in charge.

I don't know either of you by the way.
He would be very knowlegable about the game.He has been over alot of winning teams over the years both with my own club and his home club,all the way up through underage and onto Senior level. He was never involved with any County teams but he would definitely have been alot better than some selectors we would have seen involved in Cavan teams over the years.He can read a game and wouldnt freeze along the line like alot of managers but anyway,thats life.

Hey Daddy's boy, give us a break! If he was that good he'd be considered.

Post of the year so far and id say boojangles will even see funny side of it .
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on March 10, 2009, 10:50:00 PM
Quote from: Lawrence of Knockbride on March 10, 2009, 09:54:15 PM
Mr. Pain your'e an entertainer and welcome in my book. As for Limerick I'll go for a narrow win-2points. Celt Man, what did you make of the red card in your game on Sunday. I heard the opposition were fearing the worst for Fitzpatrick but maybe it's not as bad as it seemed. Terrible challenge. Hope it wasn't you. ???

Indeed it wasn't me... Gonna pull a Wenger on it and say I didn't see it during the game, saw it since that, yea it was a bad tackle.  Not particularly dirty just a kind of headless tackle, he didn't shoulder him or body check him really, just ran into him.
Why what was the news about him Fitzpatrick?? Didn't hear anything???
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on March 10, 2009, 10:57:41 PM
Quote from: Celt_Man on March 10, 2009, 10:50:00 PM
Quote from: Lawrence of Knockbride on March 10, 2009, 09:54:15 PM
Mr. Pain your'e an entertainer and welcome in my book. As for Limerick I'll go for a narrow win-2points. Celt Man, what did you make of the red card in your game on Sunday. I heard the opposition were fearing the worst for Fitzpatrick but maybe it's not as bad as it seemed. Terrible challenge. Hope it wasn't you. ???

Indeed it wasn't me... Gonna pull a Wenger on it and say I didn't see it during the game, saw it since that, yea it was a bad tackle.  Not particularly dirty just a kind of headless tackle, he didn't shoulder him or body check him really, just ran into him.
Why what was the news about him Fitzpatrick?? Didn't hear anything???
All sorts of stuff like he'd be left with a limp for life. Word is that his hip came out of it's joint and chipped a bit of bone but have since heard that it might not be that bad. All rumour but from lads that know him. These things happen.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on March 11, 2009, 12:41:38 AM
Quote from: Mr. Pain on March 10, 2009, 08:31:31 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on March 10, 2009, 07:53:34 PM
Quote from: Mr. Pain on March 10, 2009, 06:39:07 PM
Quote from: boojangles on March 10, 2009, 04:56:55 PM
Quote from: Drung on March 10, 2009, 01:30:13 PM
He seems to be an expert from what you say, I just thought we could do with a man like that in charge.

I don't know either of you by the way.
He would be very knowlegable about the game.He has been over alot of winning teams over the years both with my own club and his home club,all the way up through underage and onto Senior level. He was never involved with any County teams but he would definitely have been alot better than some selectors we would have seen involved in Cavan teams over the years.He can read a game and wouldnt freeze along the line like alot of managers but anyway,thats life.

Hey Daddy's boy, give us a break! If he was that good he'd be considered.

Something tells me you wouldnt be mouting off as much if you werent hiding behind a pseudonym

Perhaps, "Ballyhaise Man". That's a very common name in Cavan, glad to see you're using your real name. The thing is a lot of people here need to relax. It is not too long ago that the morally proper Ballyhaise Man went on his rant about getting rid of Carr. Come on, would you say that to his face? Myles, don't tell Mr. Pain to button it. Celt Man, as C4ever said, relax. Finally, Boojangles, Drung set you up nicely for that rant you made. Obviously, sarcasm is alien to you. Rant over!

dont see whats wrong with ranting about a sacking a manager,nothing personal in that.
You however are just trying to get a rise out of boojangles, let me tell you, knowing who he is, you would want to be a fairly tough lad to mouth off to him in person.  ;)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on March 11, 2009, 08:25:18 AM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on March 11, 2009, 12:41:38 AM
Quote from: Mr. Pain on March 10, 2009, 08:31:31 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on March 10, 2009, 07:53:34 PM
Quote from: Mr. Pain on March 10, 2009, 06:39:07 PM
Quote from: boojangles on March 10, 2009, 04:56:55 PM
Quote from: Drung on March 10, 2009, 01:30:13 PM
He seems to be an expert from what you say, I just thought we could do with a man like that in charge.

I don't know either of you by the way.
He would be very knowlegable about the game.He has been over alot of winning teams over the years both with my own club and his home club,all the way up through underage and onto Senior level. He was never involved with any County teams but he would definitely have been alot better than some selectors we would have seen involved in Cavan teams over the years.He can read a game and wouldnt freeze along the line like alot of managers but anyway,thats life.

Hey Daddy's boy, give us a break! If he was that good he'd be considered.

Something tells me you wouldnt be mouting off as much if you werent hiding behind a pseudonym

Perhaps, "Ballyhaise Man". That's a very common name in Cavan, glad to see you're using your real name. The thing is a lot of people here need to relax. It is not too long ago that the morally proper Ballyhaise Man went on his rant about getting rid of Carr. Come on, would you say that to his face? Myles, don't tell Mr. Pain to button it. Celt Man, as C4ever said, relax. Finally, Boojangles, Drung set you up nicely for that rant you made. Obviously, sarcasm is alien to you. Rant over!

dont see whats wrong with ranting about a sacking a manager,nothing personal in that.
You however are just trying to get a rise out of boojangles, let me tell you, knowing who he is, you would want to be a fairly tough lad to mouth off to him in person.  ;)

:D Was it one of the Derry lads that got a bit of a clip around the ears for mouthing off about someone on gaaboard.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on March 11, 2009, 12:07:03 PM
Quote from: Lawrence of Knockbride on March 10, 2009, 10:57:41 PM
Quote from: Celt_Man on March 10, 2009, 10:50:00 PM
Quote from: Lawrence of Knockbride on March 10, 2009, 09:54:15 PM
Mr. Pain your'e an entertainer and welcome in my book. As for Limerick I'll go for a narrow win-2points. Celt Man, what did you make of the red card in your game on Sunday. I heard the opposition were fearing the worst for Fitzpatrick but maybe it's not as bad as it seemed. Terrible challenge. Hope it wasn't you. ???

Indeed it wasn't me... Gonna pull a Wenger on it and say I didn't see it during the game, saw it since that, yea it was a bad tackle.  Not particularly dirty just a kind of headless tackle, he didn't shoulder him or body check him really, just ran into him.
Why what was the news about him Fitzpatrick?? Didn't hear anything???
All sorts of stuff like he'd be left with a limp for life. Word is that his hip came out of it's joint and chipped a bit of bone but have since heard that it might not be that bad. All rumour but from lads that know him. These things happen.

Jaysus no one wants to be hearing things like that... Hope he will be alright...
Rumors can be sometimes a funny thing, one of our lads was in hospital recently and some of the rumors doing the rounds were so far away from the truth it was nearly funny.

To all the Dalcassians on the board, why was Waters not playing for ye on Sunday??
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on March 11, 2009, 12:11:58 PM
Quote from: Celt_Man on March 11, 2009, 12:07:03 PM
Quote from: Lawrence of Knockbride on March 10, 2009, 10:57:41 PM
Quote from: Celt_Man on March 10, 2009, 10:50:00 PM
Quote from: Lawrence of Knockbride on March 10, 2009, 09:54:15 PM
Mr. Pain your'e an entertainer and welcome in my book. As for Limerick I'll go for a narrow win-2points. Celt Man, what did you make of the red card in your game on Sunday. I heard the opposition were fearing the worst for Fitzpatrick but maybe it's not as bad as it seemed. Terrible challenge. Hope it wasn't you. ???

Indeed it wasn't me... Gonna pull a Wenger on it and say I didn't see it during the game, saw it since that, yea it was a bad tackle.  Not particularly dirty just a kind of headless tackle, he didn't shoulder him or body check him really, just ran into him.
Why what was the news about him Fitzpatrick?? Didn't hear anything???
All sorts of stuff like he'd be left with a limp for life. Word is that his hip came out of it's joint and chipped a bit of bone but have since heard that it might not be that bad. All rumour but from lads that know him. These things happen.

Jaysus no one wants to be hearing things like that... Hope he will be alright...
Rumors can be sometimes a funny thing, one of our lads was in hospital recently and some of the rumors doing the rounds were so far away from the truth it was nearly funny.

To all the Dalcassians on the board, why was Waters not playing for ye on Sunday??

He had to go into hospital on Monday for tests and possibly had to be fasting for 24hrs beforehand so playing a match would have been out of the question.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on March 11, 2009, 12:42:14 PM
Fair enough, hope he'll be alright for the U21s which, by the way, have been moving under the radar ahead of the championship game against Armagh this night week...
Anyone hear anything about them, challenge games, teams etc?  Is it low key because not much is expected of them or have we, as a county, finally learned that you shouldn't hype a team up until after they have won??
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on March 11, 2009, 01:37:42 PM
Quote from: cavan4ever on March 11, 2009, 08:25:18 AM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on March 11, 2009, 12:41:38 AM
Quote from: Mr. Pain on March 10, 2009, 08:31:31 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on March 10, 2009, 07:53:34 PM
Quote from: Mr. Pain on March 10, 2009, 06:39:07 PM
Quote from: boojangles on March 10, 2009, 04:56:55 PM
Quote from: Drung on March 10, 2009, 01:30:13 PM
He seems to be an expert from what you say, I just thought we could do with a man like that in charge.

I don't know either of you by the way.
He would be very knowlegable about the game.He has been over alot of winning teams over the years both with my own club and his home club,all the way up through underage and onto Senior level. He was never involved with any County teams but he would definitely have been alot better than some selectors we would have seen involved in Cavan teams over the years.He can read a game and wouldnt freeze along the line like alot of managers but anyway,thats life.

Hey Daddy's boy, give us a break! If he was that good he'd be considered.

Something tells me you wouldnt be mouting off as much if you werent hiding behind a pseudonym

Perhaps, "Ballyhaise Man". That's a very common name in Cavan, glad to see you're using your real name. The thing is a lot of people here need to relax. It is not too long ago that the morally proper Ballyhaise Man went on his rant about getting rid of Carr. Come on, would you say that to his face? Myles, don't tell Mr. Pain to button it. Celt Man, as C4ever said, relax. Finally, Boojangles, Drung set you up nicely for that rant you made. Obviously, sarcasm is alien to you. Rant over!

dont see whats wrong with ranting about a sacking a manager,nothing personal in that.
You however are just trying to get a rise out of boojangles, let me tell you, knowing who he is, you would want to be a fairly tough lad to mouth off to him in person.  ;)

:D Was it one of the Derry lads that got a bit of a clip around the ears for mouthing off about someone on gaaboard.

Yeh one of the Derry lads got assaulted over something he supposedly said on here  :o . Dangerous place to start mouthing off because as we said before while we dont have a massive amount of Cavan posters, we have alot more lads on the county team and on club teams who read this board and thread in particular.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Maximus Marillius on March 11, 2009, 01:47:26 PM
Yes that is true...he said something about s'neil(or spmeone from S'neil) and they ganged up (thats there way ;)) and he got a bit of a beating. Throwing water is progress thou from throwing a punch :D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Mr. Pain on March 11, 2009, 03:58:26 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on March 11, 2009, 12:41:38 AM
Quote from: Mr. Pain on March 10, 2009, 08:31:31 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on March 10, 2009, 07:53:34 PM
Quote from: Mr. Pain on March 10, 2009, 06:39:07 PM
Quote from: boojangles on March 10, 2009, 04:56:55 PM
Quote from: Drung on March 10, 2009, 01:30:13 PM
He seems to be an expert from what you say, I just thought we could do with a man like that in charge.

I don't know either of you by the way.
He would be very knowlegable about the game.He has been over alot of winning teams over the years both with my own club and his home club,all the way up through underage and onto Senior level. He was never involved with any County teams but he would definitely have been alot better than some selectors we would have seen involved in Cavan teams over the years.He can read a game and wouldnt freeze along the line like alot of managers but anyway,thats life.

Hey Daddy's boy, give us a break! If he was that good he'd be considered.

Something tells me you wouldnt be mouting off as much if you werent hiding behind a pseudonym

Perhaps, "Ballyhaise Man". That's a very common name in Cavan, glad to see you're using your real name. The thing is a lot of people here need to relax. It is not too long ago that the morally proper Ballyhaise Man went on his rant about getting rid of Carr. Come on, would you say that to his face? Myles, don't tell Mr. Pain to button it. Celt Man, as C4ever said, relax. Finally, Boojangles, Drung set you up nicely for that rant you made. Obviously, sarcasm is alien to you. Rant over!

dont see whats wrong with ranting about a sacking a manager,nothing personal in that.
You however are just trying to get a rise out of boojangles, let me tell you, knowing who he is, you would want to be a fairly tough lad to mouth off to him in person.  ;)

Who do you think you are talking to? This is Mr. Pain. Also, are you insinuating violence? Where is the Hollow Man? On so many occasions he showed you up for what you really are and you lost your composure with him. It seems some guys on this site need to take a prescription of chill pills. Perhaps Boojangles will cop now that Drung was being sarcastic and see the funny side of it. However, Ballyhaise Man you were right up his ass there and ready to retaliate. Quit being so anal and relax! Rant over!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on March 11, 2009, 04:22:48 PM
Quote from: Mr. Pain on March 11, 2009, 03:58:26 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on March 11, 2009, 12:41:38 AM
Quote from: Mr. Pain on March 10, 2009, 08:31:31 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on March 10, 2009, 07:53:34 PM
Quote from: Mr. Pain on March 10, 2009, 06:39:07 PM
Quote from: boojangles on March 10, 2009, 04:56:55 PM
Quote from: Drung on March 10, 2009, 01:30:13 PM
He seems to be an expert from what you say, I just thought we could do with a man like that in charge.

I don't know either of you by the way.
He would be very knowlegable about the game.He has been over alot of winning teams over the years both with my own club and his home club,all the way up through underage and onto Senior level. He was never involved with any County teams but he would definitely have been alot better than some selectors we would have seen involved in Cavan teams over the years.He can read a game and wouldnt freeze along the line like alot of managers but anyway,thats life.

Hey Daddy's boy, give us a break! If he was that good he'd be considered.

Something tells me you wouldnt be mouting off as much if you werent hiding behind a pseudonym

Perhaps, "Ballyhaise Man". That's a very common name in Cavan, glad to see you're using your real name. The thing is a lot of people here need to relax. It is not too long ago that the morally proper Ballyhaise Man went on his rant about getting rid of Carr. Come on, would you say that to his face? Myles, don't tell Mr. Pain to button it. Celt Man, as C4ever said, relax. Finally, Boojangles, Drung set you up nicely for that rant you made. Obviously, sarcasm is alien to you. Rant over!

dont see whats wrong with ranting about a sacking a manager,nothing personal in that.
You however are just trying to get a rise out of boojangles, let me tell you, knowing who he is, you would want to be a fairly tough lad to mouth off to him in person.  ;)

Who do you think you are talking to? This is Mr. Pain. Also, are you insinuating violence? Where is the Hollow Man? On so many occasions he showed you up for what you really are and you lost your composure with him. It seems some guys on this site need to take a prescription of chill pills. Perhaps Boojangles will cop now that Drung was being sarcastic and see the funny side of it. However, Ballyhaise Man you were right up his ass there and ready to retaliate. Quit being so anal and relax! Rant over!

Hollow Man is no loss, anyone who refers to a whole club as tramps , wont be missed. Boojangles is someone i know off the board(not that well just to speak to,although he hasnt guessed who i am yet  ;)
No-one had a problem with what Drung said, he asked a question Boojangles answered it,Infact Drung has already shown hes a competant and intelligent contributor to this board in the short space of time he been on.
You on the otherhand, well thats another story  ;)
Insinuating violence? Sure everyone knows us Ballyhaise men are soft.   :P
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: whats my name on March 11, 2009, 05:50:32 PM
who is Boojangles the debate continues!!!!!!! lol
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on March 11, 2009, 06:04:10 PM
Quote from: put-it-up on March 11, 2009, 05:58:25 PM
U21's are quietly confident, but a lot of these players have bottled it in the past at minor level, so I think they themselves have learned a lesson in that. Everything is hush hush, and just focusing on the game. I am very good friends with one of the players and I was delighted to hear that a lot of places are still up for grabs...it means players are not playing off their reputation.

Armagh in Armagh is a tough tough game for them.

A likely team would be something like this..

Alan O'Mara
Damien Barkey
Rory Dunne
Oisin Minnagh
Barry Watters
James McEnroe
Dane O'Dowd
Gearoid McKiernan/David Givney
Ray Cullivan
Deco McKiernan
Eugene Keating
Paddy Brady
Conor Smith
Ado Cole
Niall McDermott.

Heard G McKiernan picked up a knock so might be unable to play. If he can, McDermott would probably down to bench because of his youth. Hope i haven't forgotten anyone!!!

How they will fare in the big day....I dunno, but it is defintely worth the drive to Armagh to see how it goes.

I know that a young lad from Killeshandra was in on the panel for a while. A great willing lad, I trained him myself along time ago. Anyway, he didn't make the cut but nobody bothered to even contact him to tell him that. It seems that some of the communication is still shite anyway. I didn't realise Cullivan is still U21. He is some horse of a lad for an U21. Do you not Fancy Thomais Reilly to make the team?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: the salmon of knowledge on March 11, 2009, 07:24:00 PM
someone wrote a comment a while back regarding something they read on the post... does anyone else find the ravings of the "journalist" writing under the heading CSI a bit much??
A couple of weeks ago he totally ridiculed larry and this week praising him.. some other stuff the guy writes is a bit iffy
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on March 11, 2009, 09:55:19 PM
Put it up, have all the 95 lads gracefully retired to the Comfort of Nixys etc. or are there still a few around? Did it end up a mixed blessing, lads wanting to retire, young lads not getting a chance and chucking it in etc. Vital to get up from Junior level straight away I would think.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Mr. Pain on March 12, 2009, 10:12:15 AM
Quote

Hollow Man is no loss, anyone who refers to a whole club as tramps , wont be missed. Boojangles is someone i know off the board(not that well just to speak to,although he hasnt guessed who i am yet  ;)
No-one had a problem with what Drung said, he asked a question Boojangles answered it,Infact Drung has already shown hes a competant and intelligent contributor to this board in the short space of time he been on.
You on the otherhand, well thats another story  ;)
Insinuating violence? Sure everyone knows us Ballyhaise men are soft.   :P

BHM, you are an idiot. Obviously you didn't read through Mr. Pain's last post. Also, sarcasm seems to be lost on you too.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on March 12, 2009, 08:18:16 PM
Quote from: anglocelt39 on March 11, 2009, 09:55:19 PM
Put it up, have all the 95 lads gracefully retired to the Comfort of Nixys etc. or are there still a few around? Did it end up a mixed blessing, lads wanting to retire, young lads not getting a chance and chucking it in etc. Vital to get up from Junior level straight away I would think.

it was a bit of both to be honest anglocelt! The likes of Lambo and Charlie Clarke i think realised it was for the clubs benefit that they step aside and get a new panel coming through. To be honest it was badly needed. For the last few years the dressing room has been as stale as second hand bread.

The evergreen Gerry Sheridan may make an appearance in the summer. You see alot of young lads were getting pissed off that they were not being given a chance because of the older players reputations. But to be fair the new manager has had a mini-clear out and I reckon the average age of the squad now is 23 or so. O'Mara, Declan Reilly, Gary Reilly, James Cooney and Sean Cooney are all talking alot more responsability this year.

You have probably never heard of many of these but I suppose that was the problem with the club, young lads werent coming through.

I admit we are not playing great stuff, but it is nice to be winning again. A long long way to go though

Fingers crossed we get out of DIV 3 straight away. I don't plan watching this football again next year. No disrespect tp the other teams.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: whats my name on March 12, 2009, 09:03:29 PM
I don't plan watching this football again next year if the shamrocks were any addition they wouldn't be in this division in the first place. that comment is a bit demeaning to clubs and players in division 3!!!!!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on March 12, 2009, 09:44:19 PM
Quote from: Thastheball on March 12, 2009, 10:18:07 AM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on February 21, 2009, 02:51:47 PM
Thatstheball - how do you think the players will react after the widespread criticism of their performance against Tipp? Will we get a big effort against Down or will it be more of the same.

I answered


Quote from: Thastheball on February 21, 2009, 03:01:40 PM
In the past when the players have taken that criticism they have reacted. So I would expect that to happen again.

Indeed you called that well - thankfully. So I have another one for you. Do you expect the team to maintain the level of workrate they produced against Down when a lesser light of Limerick arrive at the weekend or can we expect swollen heads going onto the pitch?

100% spot on.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Swadman on March 12, 2009, 10:12:37 PM
Quote from: put-it-up on March 11, 2009, 09:20:11 PM
to be completely honest with you SOK i gave up on the post a couple of months ago. The standard just got really bad before christmas and when the celt got new leadership, it just blew it out of the pond. It's a shame I used to like the post - they did different things and really freshened things up. Who is in charge of it now?

what kind of name is CSI for a column in a Cavan paper anyway :D
Must stand for "Cavan Sports Idiot"
Re the U-21s, Gearoid McKiernan didn't play for Swad at the weekend v Corlough. He is nursing a fractured toe, possibly out for 6 - 8 weeks. I watched them in a challange v Fermanagh in Swad 3 or 4 weeks ago. Dunne at FB was masterful, Watters in Half back line was very busy and gave good diagonal ball into the forward line. Thomas Reilly played well and would def be concidered for a start. Our man is a great fielder and a good athlete and point taker but still has a bit to learn about MF, like when to pass and when to run it.   
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on March 12, 2009, 10:14:43 PM
Quote from: Thastheball on March 12, 2009, 10:18:07 AM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on February 21, 2009, 02:51:47 PM
Thatstheball - how do you think the players will react after the widespread criticism of their performance against Tipp? Will we get a big effort against Down or will it be more of the same.

I answered


Quote from: Thastheball on February 21, 2009, 03:01:40 PM
In the past when the players have taken that criticism they have reacted. So I would expect that to happen again.



100% spot on.

(http://school.discoveryeducation.com/clipart/images/big-prize-color.gif)





Sorry THB couldnt resist  :P
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on March 12, 2009, 11:35:03 PM
Quote from: whats my name on March 12, 2009, 09:03:29 PM
I don't plan watching this football again next year if the shamrocks were any addition they wouldn't be in this division in the first place. that comment is a bit demeaning to clubs and players in division 3!!!!!

what's my name i shalll apologise to you. I didnt mean to upset anyone. I know we are were we deserve to be. Sure we have been hovering in the bottom of Division Two for the last 2 or 3 years.

A club in a town of the size it is, should not be in Division Three. Not many of us are used to being considered a division three team (it hurts), so you can understand if i want our rebuilding operation to be as short as possible. Don't even know if we are good enough to get out of it yet, tougher challenges ahead
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on March 12, 2009, 11:42:08 PM
Quote from: RednBlack on March 12, 2009, 09:31:24 PM
Quote from: put-it-up on March 12, 2009, 08:18:16 PM
Quote from: anglocelt39 on March 11, 2009, 09:55:19 PM
Put it up, have all the 95 lads gracefully retired to the Comfort of Nixys etc. or are there still a few around? Did it end up a mixed blessing, lads wanting to retire, young lads not getting a chance and chucking it in etc. Vital to get up from Junior level straight away I would think.

it was a bit of both to be honest anglocelt! The likes of Lambo and Charlie Clarke i think realised it was for the clubs benefit that they step aside and get a new panel coming through. To be honest it was badly needed. For the last few years the dressing room has been as stale as second hand bread.

The evergreen Gerry Sheridan may make an appearance in the summer. You see alot of young lads were getting pissed off that they were not being given a chance because of the older players reputations. But to be fair the new manager has had a mini-clear out and I reckon the average age of the squad now is 23 or so. O'Mara, Declan Reilly, Gary Reilly, James Cooney and Sean Cooney are all talking alot more responsability this year.

You have probably never heard of many of these but I suppose that was the problem with the club, young lads werent coming through.

I admit we are not playing great stuff, but it is nice to be winning again. A long long way to go though

Fingers crossed we get out of DIV 3 straight away. I don't plan watching this football again next year. No disrespect tp the other teams.

What's the story at underage in Bailieboro. I see they are down in Div 2 at Under 12 grade. Doesn't see to make sense. Are they that low on numbers this year?

I dunno whats going on there. Didn't even realise they had dropped down. I can only imagine its down to numbers. Why don't O'Neills give out some free football's in schools or something..I never see kids around the town playing ball anymore.

We have won the last 3 U16 titles I believe. Unfortunately, I don't know why that success is not been transported to minor or u21 level
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: whats my name on March 13, 2009, 11:50:13 AM
i hope the u-21's can do the business on wedensday they have a talented team i hear that armagh might be missing 6-7 players that are playing in the all-ireland the day before so hopefully we can catch armagh on the hop!!!!!!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on March 13, 2009, 12:27:49 PM
Whats my name !!!!

What has happened u since the end of February even sentance ends with a clatter of !!!!!!.

Anyway i will be away for the weekend and wont get to the game tomorow evening so hopefully Haise man or someone else will have a report up !!!!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on March 13, 2009, 12:54:51 PM
Quote from: cavan4ever on March 13, 2009, 12:27:49 PM
Whats my name !!!!

What has happened u since the end of February even sentance ends with a clatter of !!!!!!.

Anyway i will be away for the weekend and wont get to the game tomorow evening so hopefully Haise man or someone else will have a report up !!!!
Consider it done but what a dose if I have to start to go to the match before the Six Nations match is over!!!  It better be worth it!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on March 13, 2009, 01:53:21 PM
Afraid I won't be able to make my way back from the West on Saturday. Look forward to a match report from the usual suspects and not looking forward to listening to Northern Sound.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on March 13, 2009, 02:05:32 PM
Quote from: Celt_Man on March 13, 2009, 12:54:51 PM
Quote from: cavan4ever on March 13, 2009, 12:27:49 PM
Whats my name !!!!

What has happened u since the end of February even sentance ends with a clatter of !!!!!!.

Anyway i will be away for the weekend and wont get to the game tomorow evening so hopefully Haise man or someone else will have a report up !!!!
Consider it done but what a dose if I have to start to go to the match before the Six Nations match is over!!!  It better be worth it!

Fair play.
Why dont you head over to Cavan and watch the Rugby in the Orchard there was a good crowd in for the last match and was good crack, and when its over tip up to the park.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on March 13, 2009, 02:26:38 PM
Quote from: cavan4ever on March 13, 2009, 02:05:32 PM
Quote from: Celt_Man on March 13, 2009, 12:54:51 PM
Quote from: cavan4ever on March 13, 2009, 12:27:49 PM
Whats my name !!!!

What has happened u since the end of February even sentance ends with a clatter of !!!!!!.

Anyway i will be away for the weekend and wont get to the game tomorow evening so hopefully Haise man or someone else will have a report up !!!!
Consider it done but what a dose if I have to start to go to the match before the Six Nations match is over!!!  It better be worth it!

Fair play.
Why dont you head over to Cavan and watch the Rugby in the Orchard there was a good crowd in for the last match and was good crack, and when its over tip up to the park.
Not a hope, can't stand watching matches - apart from most soccer matches because it is so much slower -  in the pub sure you can never get watching them properly.... and you always have some know it all beside ya - and I'm enough of a know it all that I don't need the opinion of another one!!!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on March 13, 2009, 03:43:23 PM
Does everybody else find listening to Northern Sound a painful experience!!!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on March 13, 2009, 03:51:21 PM
Quote from: put-it-up on March 13, 2009, 03:43:23 PM
Does everybody else find listening to Northern Sound a painful experience!!!

It's a torment I rarely put myself through, I usually just ring around till I find someone I know at the game and then plague them for updates.... The auld fella couldn't follow the game last week at all, apparently they kept saying that Johnny Crowe was CHB and him on the wing - simple mistake I know but it was easy to see he was on the wing the whole game too!!
I love the dead silences for 5 - 10 seconds and then "oh a goal" or "and it's a red card"!!!!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: lynchbhoy on March 13, 2009, 04:27:28 PM
Quote from: put-it-up on March 13, 2009, 03:43:23 PM
Does everybody else find listening to Northern Sound a painful experience!!!
used to be amused by its football coverage initially, then after listening to 40 mins of the game and still couldnt fathom who was winning or what score it was (a lot of new players on both the cavan and monaghan teams that day made it doubly hard) I barely caught the final score at the end announcing monaghan had won.

the diddly diddly stuff and 1950's style might have suited the father in law, but feckin hell its torture to have to listen to (and he insisted on having it on in the car when youd be driving too).

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on March 13, 2009, 06:05:31 PM
ah their coverage really is chronic. no offence, but they are atrocious at their work. They rarely tell us the score and one of the boys, spends most of his time describing players relations than the game.

Sometimes I wonder if they can actually see what is going on!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on March 13, 2009, 07:13:01 PM
The only real chance I get to follow Cavan's progress these days is via Northern Sound on the net. After a while you have no choice but to get used to it , in fact it gets to the stage of being "so bad it's good" type of thing as you wait for the next faux pas. Put it up I've seen the Shamrocks play twice in the current century-distance and slim pickings being the reason, still a few of us keep tabs on things from  a distance so I would be familiar with a few of the names you mention.

Seems from what you say that a few of the old guard stayed around a bit too long, happens in manys a club. Are the likes of Neil Donnellan, Rob Mulhall, Andy Coleman togging out-it's lads like that you would need to be stepping up if you are to bounce back. Young Luke Sheridan was one hardy buck at minor level, I think injuries did him no real good. Will watch, as best we can, from distance. Keep us posted.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on March 13, 2009, 07:32:59 PM
Quote from: anglocelt39 on March 13, 2009, 07:13:01 PM
The only real chance I get to follow Cavan's progress these days is via Northern Sound on the net. After a while you have no choice but to get used to it , in fact it gets to the stage of being "so bad it's good" type of thing as you wait for the next faux pas. Put it up I've seen the Shamrocks play twice in the current century-distance and slim pickings being the reason, still a few of us keep tabs on things from  a distance so I would be familiar with a few of the names you mention.

Seems from what you say that a few of the old guard stayed around a bit too long, happens in manys a club. Are the likes of Neil Donnellan, Rob Mulhall, Andy Coleman togging out-it's lads like that you would need to be stepping up if you are to bounce back. Young Luke Sheridan was one hardy buck at minor level, I think injuries did him no real good. Will watch, as best we can, from distance. Keep us posted.

No Neal Donnellan is not around this year and Andy Coleman said he did not want to play. Truth be told he has not wanted to play for the last couple of years...It is a shame because boy god was he one good footballer in his younger years!
Young Sheridan has had cruciate troubles, done it for a second time only two weeks ago. The poor fella was only getting back into the swing of things.

PS, my heart goes out to you having to use Nortern Sound, you must be an intelligent man to decipher the codes they use :D

What club are u anglocelt39?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on March 13, 2009, 08:02:03 PM
Quote from: put-it-up on March 13, 2009, 07:32:59 PM
Quote from: anglocelt39 on March 13, 2009, 07:13:01 PM
The only real chance I get to follow Cavan's progress these days is via Northern Sound on the net. After a while you have no choice but to get used to it , in fact it gets to the stage of being "so bad it's good" type of thing as you wait for the next faux pas. Put it up I've seen the Shamrocks play twice in the current century-distance and slim pickings being the reason, still a few of us keep tabs on things from  a distance so I would be familiar with a few of the names you mention.

Seems from what you say that a few of the old guard stayed around a bit too long, happens in manys a club. Are the likes of Neil Donnellan, Rob Mulhall, Andy Coleman togging out-it's lads like that you would need to be stepping up if you are to bounce back. Young Luke Sheridan was one hardy buck at minor level, I think injuries did him no real good. Will watch, as best we can, from distance. Keep us posted.

No Neal Donnellan is not around this year and Andy Coleman said he did not want to play. Truth be told he has not wanted to play for the last couple of years...It is a shame because boy god was he one good footballer in his younger years!
Young Sheridan has had cruciate troubles, done it for a second time only two weeks ago. The poor fella was only getting back into the swing of things.

PS, my heart goes out to you having to use Nortern Sound, you must be an intelligent man to decipher the codes they use :D

What club are u anglocelt39?
What age is Coleman? I watched him play in the intermediate first round last year and he had a savage second half. Destroyed his man. I'm with ya on the pub Celt-Man. Can't watch any game properly. Good craic if you don't care about the performance but if it's any kind of analysis you're after then forget it. Luckily I don't care too much for the rugger.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on March 13, 2009, 08:32:35 PM
Same as yourself put it up, but long long gone. Ties that bind and all that
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on March 13, 2009, 09:37:08 PM
Quote from: Lawrence of Knockbride on March 13, 2009, 08:02:03 PM
Quote from: put-it-up on March 13, 2009, 07:32:59 PM
Quote from: anglocelt39 on March 13, 2009, 07:13:01 PM
The only real chance I get to follow Cavan's progress these days is via Northern Sound on the net. After a while you have no choice but to get used to it , in fact it gets to the stage of being "so bad it's good" type of thing as you wait for the next faux pas. Put it up I've seen the Shamrocks play twice in the current century-distance and slim pickings being the reason, still a few of us keep tabs on things from  a distance so I would be familiar with a few of the names you mention.

Seems from what you say that a few of the old guard stayed around a bit too long, happens in manys a club. Are the likes of Neil Donnellan, Rob Mulhall, Andy Coleman togging out-it's lads like that you would need to be stepping up if you are to bounce back. Young Luke Sheridan was one hardy buck at minor level, I think injuries did him no real good. Will watch, as best we can, from distance. Keep us posted.

No Neal Donnellan is not around this year and Andy Coleman said he did not want to play. Truth be told he has not wanted to play for the last couple of years...It is a shame because boy god was he one good footballer in his younger years!
Young Sheridan has had cruciate troubles, done it for a second time only two weeks ago. The poor fella was only getting back into the swing of things.

PS, my heart goes out to you having to use Nortern Sound, you must be an intelligent man to decipher the codes they use :D

What club are u anglocelt39?
What age is Coleman? I watched him play in the intermediate first round last year and he had a savage second half. Destroyed his man. I'm with ya on the pub Celt-Man. Can't watch any game properly. Good craic if you don't care about the performance but if it's any kind of analysis you're after then forget it. Luckily I don't care too much for the rugger.

Ah Coleman is  a serious footballer, has serious talent. But motivation was the problem. He broke his collarbone a few years ago and never really recovered.

I am another man, that bloody hates watching a game in the pub. Someone is always there to distract and you cant fully focus on the game itself.

Ah you must return to the Shamrocks anglocelt. Any chance we could put you in on the square :D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on March 13, 2009, 11:41:17 PM
Random obscure Northern Sound moment (away league game versus Waterford some years ago)

"And McCabe goes up for the ball.....he soars high...and down he comes. He's like a jumbo jet.

"Interestingly, a jumbo jet, I read during the week, burns some 34,000 litres of aviation fuel on take off which is an incredible amount when you think about it meanwhile the applause in the background tells you Pierson has tapped over a free for Cavan..."

Honest to Jasus, if you listen long enough they'd nearly do something outrageous - like tell you the f**king score or something.

Worst of all, and I'll never forget it, was the qualifier against Limerick some years back, we drew down there and then lost in Breffni. We were a point down in injury time (perhaps in extra time I can't recall) and we won a scoreable free near the Limerick goals. Just as you're inching to the edge of the seat and saying a Hail Mary, the commentator in his boundless wisdom breaks off for some interesting fact or other about such and such's grandfather who won a Junior C league with Adrigole in Cork having worked in Cavan earlier in the year as a rat catcher for the council etc. etc.
You can hear the crowd cheering in the background and you're dancing around the kitchen with your heart in your mouth wondering is it Limerick fans cheering a wide or our boys cheering an equaliser and then you hear the full time whistle and - almost as an afterthought - the bollocks casually mentions that Peter Reilly tapped over a free moments previously and the game was going to a replay.

You couldn't make it up, seriously.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on March 13, 2009, 11:42:34 PM
ah a Balieborough discussion, this is a first  :-* il try and not offend Anglocelt and put it up
Neil Donnelan could have done with a trial on the county team, ive seen him put some very good players in his pocket.
David Rooney is also a very good footballer as is Declan Reily.
Midfield would be a problem for you lads id say, Never really replaced big Charlie.
Seen your junior team against our lads in Championship semi final last year in atrocious conditions in Virginia, you had a few big lads at centre field who were useful, Barry McMahon???
Paddy Byrd is a good player, terrific free taker off the ground from what i seen a few years ago. Dessie Reily is also a good forward.
what age is young Niall Kelly,been hearing he was the scourge of some very good Ballyhaise underage teams over the last 5 years,hes going to be a good one id imagine.
Andy Coleman was a class act,done well on his only real county duty under Eamon Coleman(especially good game against Armagh in the league)
Far too many good players to be getting relegated to Div 3, i cant imagine if the attitude is right,that anyone will take any points off ye in the league.

as for Big Charlie and Lambe, still strutting their stuff for the juniors ,handy lads to have about for a junior team
Running into Charlie Clarke even at 35/36 would not be pleasant.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on March 13, 2009, 11:44:40 PM
Quote from: cavanmaniac on March 13, 2009, 11:41:17 PM
Random obscure Northern Sound moment (away league game versus Waterford some years ago)

"And McCabe goes up for the ball.....he soars high...and down he comes. He's like a jumbo jet.

"Interestingly, a jumbo jet, I read during the week, burns some 34,000 litres of aviation fuel on take off which is an incredible amount when you think about it meanwhile the applause in the background tells you Pierson has tapped over a free for Cavan..."

Honest to Jasus, if you listen long enough they'd nearly do something outrageous - like tell you the f**king score or something.

Worst of all, and I'll never forget it, was the qualifier against Limerick some years back, we drew down there and then lost in Breffni. We were a point down in injury time (perhaps in extra time I can't recall) and we won a scoreable free near the Limerick goals. Just as you're inching to the edge of the seat and saying a Hail Mary, the commentator in his boundless wisdom breaks off for some interesting fact or other about such and such's grandfather who won a Junior C league with Adrigole in Cork having worked in Cavan earlier in the year as a rat catcher for the council etc. etc.
You can hear the crowd cheering in the background and you're dancing around the kitchen with your heart in your mouth wondering is it Limerick fans cheering a wide or our boys cheering an equaliser and then you hear the full time whistle and - almost as an afterthought - the bollocks casually mentions that Peter Reilly tapped over a free moments previously and the game was going to a replay.

You couldn't make it up, seriously.

Terrible commentary indeed Maniac,they would sicken your hole rambling on about something or another. id say about 30-40% of their commentary is non football related, absolutely abysmal.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: trim blue on March 14, 2009, 12:15:12 AM
Ah yes Northern Sound, Radio Ga Ga with a couple of A's missing  ;D The problem with yer man is that you get the impression he would be just as happy doing a programme on knitting as commentating on a match.. thanks to all you lads for last weeks great match reports, will be depending on you again this week...
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on March 14, 2009, 12:45:50 AM
Ah you must return to the Shamrocks anglocelt. Any chance we could put you in on the square


The Square as in Nixy's? That's the only Square I'd be up to at this stage put it up. Amazing how things change, Kingscourt were bloody serious operators when I was knocking around in the late 70's early 80's, you wouldn't think it now. Beauty of the GAA I suppose, one or two mentors can make such a difference to a club, The Shamrocks were absoultely banjoed at the time and the legendary Donal Kellly returned from England and banished all negative attitudes within 12 months (understand his son Paul is busy doing the same thing at underage level now). He took a minor team from the arsehole of nowhere to a county final within 12 months. Remember him in the dressing room in Breffni before a County semi final against a Mullahoran/Gowna combination who were hot favourites. He gave a very reasoned and sensible team talk to the assembled townies before concluding with the immortal words "right lads get out there and kick the shite out of the f**kers, which we did............."

Sorry to be a bore about all this lads and sounding like your fathers but enjoy the moment, don't end up a sad p***k like me saying 20 years later "why didn't I try harder"

Fair play for the words BHM, after all the annoyance Fab Vinnie landed on you.

God the pints were ok tonight.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on March 14, 2009, 12:48:24 AM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on March 13, 2009, 11:42:34 PM
ah a Balieborough discussion, this is a first  :-* il try and not offend Anglocelt and put it up
Neil Donnelan could have done with a trial on the county team, ive seen him put some very good players in his pocket.
David Rooney is also a very good footballer as is Declan Reily.
Midfield would be a problem for you lads id say, Never really replaced big Charlie.
Seen your junior team against our lads in Championship semi final last year in atrocious conditions in Virginia, you had a few big lads at centre field who were useful, Barry McMahon???
Paddy Byrd is a good player, terrific free taker off the ground from what i seen a few years ago. Dessie Reily is also a good forward.
what age is young Niall Kelly,been hearing he was the scourge of some very good Ballyhaise underage teams over the last 5 years,hes going to be a good one id imagine.
Andy Coleman was a class act,done well on his only real county duty under Eamon Coleman(especially good game against Armagh in the league)
Far too many good players to be getting relegated to Div 3, i cant imagine if the attitude is right,that anyone will take any points off ye in the league.

as for Big Charlie and Lambe, still strutting their stuff for the juniors ,handy lads to have about for a junior team
Running into Charlie Clarke even at 35/36 would not be pleasant.

Ballyhaise man you know more about our team than some of the previous managers ;D

We do, talent is not our problem - from what I gather it is more an attitude thing! Sometimes I think of us as the club version of Cavan (tongue in cheek)/

Niall Kelly has singlehandedly beaten Ballyhaise at times in the last few years. It was like a little shoot off between him and Tierney (another outstanding talent).Kelly's problem is he is currently out of shape and a has lost his burst of space. Still only a minor I am sure he will get it back.

Byrd is a fantastic player, but ther is no controlling him. Paul Sharkey is another good player.

I think it is going to take the majority of this season for our team to click, given there are so many new faces. But as you say if the attitude is right, not many teams should take points off us.

PS. if only there was a record of dumb quotes from Norther Sound. I reckon if the two boys were asked to speak about a ball of cotton wool for 70 minutes they would somehow manage it!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Babe Ruth 47 on March 14, 2009, 09:04:49 PM
2 more points, won 9 - 10. Sounded absolutely diabolial, but 2 points ia 2 points. Limerick seemed to miss an awful lot. Roll on Armagh and the Rossies
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on March 14, 2009, 09:48:45 PM
Quote from: Babe Ruth 47 on March 14, 2009, 09:04:49 PM
2 more points, won 9 - 10. Sounded absolutely diabolial, but 2 points ia 2 points. Limerick seemed to miss an awful lot. Roll on Armagh and the Rossies
Wouldn't go as far as diabolical but Limerick should've been out of sight after 20 minutes missing both goal and point chances aplenty. It took that same length of time for Jelly & Larry to decide to run, although in fairness to Johnston he had his hands full telling Martin Reilly what he should be doing. ::)

Full-back line did well overall but I hope that's the last we see of Sean Brady at CHB. Whoever's plan that was, hats off for originality but bring back Flanagan (where was he and Cullivan?)
Midfield were poor enough although Mulvey ran around gamely if headless before being called ashore for the ginger one.
Keating did quite well as did Mackey, overdoing it on occassion.
It seems like Carr is trying different players in different positions, and as with Podge let's hope he learns as time goes on.

2 points in the bag if a little fortunate and I haven't mentioned Jonny Crowe's performance which I think we should all try to forget.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on March 14, 2009, 10:17:36 PM
Quote from: Lawrence of Knockbride on March 14, 2009, 09:48:45 PM
Quote from: Babe Ruth 47 on March 14, 2009, 09:04:49 PM
2 more points, won 9 - 10. Sounded absolutely diabolial, but 2 points ia 2 points. Limerick seemed to miss an awful lot. Roll on Armagh and the Rossies
Wouldn't go as far as diabolical but Limerick should've been out of sight after 20 minutes missing both goal and point chances aplenty. It took that same length of time for Jelly & Larry to decide to run, although in fairness to Johnston he had his hands full telling Martin Reilly what he should be doing. ::)

Full-back line did well overall but I hope that's the last we see of Sean Brady at CHB. Whoever's plan that was, hats off for originality but bring back Flanagan (where was he and Cullivan?)
Midfield were poor enough although Mulvey ran around gamely if headless before being called ashore for the ginger one.
Keating did quite well as did Mackey, overdoing it on occassion.
It seems like Carr is trying different players in different positions, and as with Podge let's hope he learns as time goes on.

2 points in the bag if a little fortunate and I haven't mentioned Jonny Crowe's performance which I think we should all try to forget.
it wasnt pretty, it wasnt great, but it was a win.

Couldn't believe when i saw Brady with number six on his back (really dont rate him), and Crowe was appalin..would have taken him off at HT.

I thought Keating was poor but he needs time - has alot of potential. Mackey impressed. Larry got in the way at times,  it was like he was trying too hard. That was a good lad marking Jelly.

Cullivan got an injection today and was rested. Wednesday was given the priority over this league game. Was reasonably happy with FB line, but Limerick were  poor. If they had of brought there scoring boots they would of been out of sight after 15 mins.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: whats my name on March 15, 2009, 03:40:41 AM
poor game but 2 points is 2 points not much positives from the game keating was poor as was johnny crowe where was larry in the second half was he playing though dermott sheridan was solid enough at full back limericks number 25 donealot of damage who ever he was but at least we got 2 points
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on March 15, 2009, 12:53:54 PM
25 for Limerick was Stephen Kelly, he wasnt very far away from an all star 5/6 years ago when limerick got to a few Munster finals in a row,hard man to watch.

Going by the ratings you can see our full back line was outstanding last night.
Miller made a terrific save in the first half, best goalkeeper for one on one's in the country and its not even close,Kickouts were varied,He hit Givney well when he came on. 8

Michael Hannon, he was marking AFL Target and one of the best young players in the country, Ian Ryan who scored 3-7 against Meath last year, and what did he do?? completely nullified him from open play. Terrific performance. 8

Dermot Sheridan, i thought he was going to be in trouble with that 6'3 plus full forward,but he coped very well,only made one mistake when he misjudged the flight of the ball in the first half. 8

Keith Fannin, Man of the match for me, made interception after interception, terrific defensive display. 9

Only harsh point on the full back line was they did give away a few frees, However the referee Duffy from Sligo was awful and you couldnt touch a Limerick player inside your own 45 without giving away a free.

Half back line,
John McCutcheon, done well, kicked a great point off his left foot in the second half, switched over onto Stephen Kelly in the second half and kept him fairly quiet after. 7

Sean Brady, got a roasting by the aforementioned Kelly in the first half, never really enforced himself into the game,dont think hes going to hold the Number 6 jersey. 5

Johnny Crowe, Johnny had a night to forget, gave the ball away 3 times in a row in the first half, also got a bit of a roasting when Kelly moved onto him. Taken off and replaced by Rory Dunne. 5

Lorcan Mulvey, i might get abuse for this,but i thought Mulvey done fairly well last night,he seems to have lost a bit of weight from the start of the year,was moving rightly last night,done stupid things like diving into tackles,kicked a good score and put in a good shift against a player who was at least 2 inches taller than him.Only caught one clean ball from what i can remember though,replaced by McCabe. 7

Ciaran Galligan,done well,Like Mulvey only had one clean catch,but most of the ball was broken,kicked a good score in the first half,got up and down the field all night long,just like we have come to expect from him. 7

Martin Reily,kicked a few frees and one from play but his first touch last night was terrible,he kept on fumbling the ball and losing it in contact,H has all the skills but didnt have his best day at the office last night,kicked 2 wides. 6

Eugene Keating, got on a lot of ball,kicked 3 wides from fairly scoreable positions which could have proved crucial,Hes definetely worth another shot though,id say he will be much improved wednesday night. 6

Cian Mackey, Rednblack im going to have to disagree with you here, while he wasnt near as good as his majestic performance against Down,and he did do some stupid things,like holding the ball too long and running into cul de sacs as you said,i thought he was decent last night,scored a good point from play,ran at the Limerick backline causing them problems. 7

Eddie Reily,worked very hard and battled gamely,unlucky to be taken off as he didnt do anything wrong,Hes improved an awful lot in knowing when to give the pass,if all the Cavan players had his heart and determination, we wouldnt be in Division 3,thats for sure. 7

Sean Johnston, looked dangerous when he got the ball,but kicked two balls short which he has a habit of doing,must have ended up with 0-4 or 0-5, as RednBlack said he does roar and shout alot at other players about the type of ball coming in,Not what you want to be hearing when your bursting your arse. 8

Larry Reily, Larry had a night to forget, kicked 4 wides all from scoreable positions bar maybe 1,he has lost a fair bit of weight, and still has that burst of speed, when he left 3 Limerick defenders for dead in the second half. I think he will be more of an impact sub come the summer. 5

subs
Rory Dunne for Crowe, made two telling dispossessions in the last 10 minutes,One on Limericks last attack of the game.Big game from him wednesday night and he might force his way back into the team at wing back.

Dermot McCabe, a slimmer McCabe came on,sprayed some good ball around,has alot of work to do on his sharpness and fitness though.

David Givney,thought he was outstanding when he came on for Martin Reily i think it was, One of the few Cavan men to win a few breaks, an area which we were cleaned out of,for certain periods especially in the first half,Made one good catch aswell and drove forward when given the chance. 8

Conor Smith,only came on at very end

Jason Reily, came on with a few minutes left.

Positives for me was the Goalkeeper/ Full back line who were excellent, we also created alot of chances, Larry had 4 wides, Keating 3 ,Martin Reily 2 and Seanie dropped 2 short,all scoreable.

Negatives were plenfitful aswell im afraid, for a period of 10 minutes in the first half we didnt win one break at centrefield, all in all with the exception of McCutcheon, The Half back and half forward lines were very poor in my opinion.
Midfield battled gamely against bigger men, while Limerick caught 4 clean ballagainst our 3(Givney,Mulvey,Galligan) it was mostly breaks as the modern game is,and we werent proficient at that last night at all.

Forwards were wasteful last night,Limerick missed 6-7 points in the first half
we didn the same in the second.

Good to win all the same,we played better in Longford and lost.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on March 15, 2009, 05:13:42 PM
Think Larry will defo be a impact sub come the summer. He is not past it yet, just needs to sharpen up. I think he is a great asset to have in the panel and apparently he is excellent in training.

Lads, whats the story with Pierson? What did he injure?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on March 15, 2009, 05:23:31 PM
It sounds to me like first priority for Tommy Carr is trying out as many players in different positions as he can, and if we can chalk up enough wins and challenge for promotion at the same time, then so be it.

I feared we wouldn't have the same sting in us against Limerick as we had against Down when we took to the field with public opprobrium bouncing off the drumlins, and it sounds like this is how it played out.

It's pleasing on one hand that we're trying lots of things at this stage of the year rather than juggling with the formula come June like Keogan did last year, but I'd personally like to see a relatively young side learning in the higher level of Division 2 next year and I hope we knuckle down a bit better to the task from here on.

It'll be a hell of a battle against the table-topping Rossies on the 29th in Breffni now especially if the lads are as up for it as they were in Newry.

And I'll tell you something else, Tipp are giving the division a fair rattle!

Thanks to all observers for keeping us absentees posted!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on March 16, 2009, 04:27:48 PM
Anyone know what the story with Pierson is. I heard he was injured but not from a reliable source. Pity if he is gone from the panel as he was playing well.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on March 16, 2009, 06:27:15 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on March 16, 2009, 04:27:48 PM
Anyone know what the story with Pierson is. I heard he was injured but not from a reliable source. Pity if he is gone from the panel as he was playing well.
He missed the opening game against Killygarry through injury so I presume that's still the case. He talked to the papers as if he meant business this year so hopefully he'll be back soon.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on March 17, 2009, 11:14:08 AM
The U21 team arrived in my email account last night. Here it is

Alan O'Mara
Patrick Carroll
Rory Dunne
Ray Farrelly
Barry Watters
James McEnroe
Daniel Graham
Gearoid McKiernan
David Givney
Declan McKiernan
Eugene Keating
Robert Maloney-Dernham
Conor Smith
Ray Cullivan
Niall McDermott
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on March 17, 2009, 11:45:16 AM
Thanks Put it up, was it yourself on another thread was saying that only 4 or 5 lads are at their final under 21 year, have you any idea what that number is on the team you have just posted. It's hard to see us going a serious distance in this competition if you have not got a strong core of lads who are right at the age limit I would have thought. Mind you, now that I've typed that, we got to an Under 21 AIF in 96 with a pretty young team. Feckit forget those few sentences and give me an idea of the number, if  you can..........
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on March 17, 2009, 12:04:10 PM
Is the game in Armagh and what time? Anybody going? Anyone got directions to the pitch?-
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on March 17, 2009, 12:46:22 PM
Quote from: put-it-up on March 17, 2009, 12:30:40 PM
Quote from: anglocelt39 on March 17, 2009, 11:45:16 AM
Thanks Put it up, was it yourself on another thread was saying that only 4 or 5 lads are at their final under 21 year, have you any idea what that number is on the team you have just posted. It's hard to see us going a serious distance in this competition if you have not got a strong core of lads who are right at the age limit I would have thought. Mind you, now that I've typed that, we got to an Under 21 AIF in 96 with a pretty young team. Feckit forget those few sentences and give me an idea of the number, if  you can..........

Angloclet, of that starting 15, only Cullivan is overage next year i believe. Jesus that is a young team. O'Dowd and Gaffney aren't playing so I presume they are injured.

I dont know, i'm a believer in if they are good enough they are old enough. Sure 5 or 6 of that team have already experienced senior-inter county football.

It will be interesting to see if they can produce on the night. But for gods sake we need a repeat of that AI sucess back in 96. It gave the whole county a boost and boy god could we do with that again. It only takes one team to change a counties reputation

We need some of our underage teams to produce very soon. There have been to many moral victories over the years.  What AI sucess was there in 96 ?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on March 17, 2009, 01:02:30 PM
Quote from: cavan4ever on March 17, 2009, 12:46:22 PM
Quote from: put-it-up on March 17, 2009, 12:30:40 PM
Quote from: anglocelt39 on March 17, 2009, 11:45:16 AM
Thanks Put it up, was it yourself on another thread was saying that only 4 or 5 lads are at their final under 21 year, have you any idea what that number is on the team you have just posted. It's hard to see us going a serious distance in this competition if you have not got a strong core of lads who are right at the age limit I would have thought. Mind you, now that I've typed that, we got to an Under 21 AIF in 96 with a pretty young team. Feckit forget those few sentences and give me an idea of the number, if  you can..........

Angloclet, of that starting 15, only Cullivan is overage next year i believe. Jesus that is a young team. O'Dowd and Gaffney aren't playing so I presume they are injured.

I dont know, i'm a believer in if they are good enough they are old enough. Sure 5 or 6 of that team have already experienced senior-inter county football.

It will be interesting to see if they can produce on the night. But for gods sake we need a repeat of that AI sucess back in 96. It gave the whole county a boost and boy god could we do with that again. It only takes one team to change a counties reputation

We need some of our underage teams to produce very soon. There have been to many moral victories over the years.  What AI sucess was there in 96 ?

my bad, I think my subconcious was wishing we had sucess in 96! ;D I just meant that sucess they enjoyed in getting to the final, played a big part in the Ulster Win of 97.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on March 18, 2009, 01:04:58 PM
Massive Cavan crowd in Thurles that day, Peter Reilly went for glory in the last few minutes, didn't pass the ball and elected to shoot a wild one that went high wide and not very handsome. Kerry tacked on a few scores and won easily enough in the end.

We were a county on the move then alright. I've highlighted the players I recall as going on to represent their counties in senior championship, and had a stab at the clubs as well for a laugh, someone can correct any mistakes no doubt.

I believe there has been underage talent enough in the county to at least repeat our All-Ireland final appearance at this grade in the intervening years, it'd be a huge fillip if we even got to an Ulster final or something this year. Anyway, that's very previous of me, but am just highlighting how a county in the doldrums with seemingly no apparent right to expect an U21 run, can sometimes do just that.

Here's hoping anyway.

Kerry 1-17 Cavan 2-10

Kerry: D. Murphy; K O'Driscoll, B McCarthy, M O'Shea; K Burns, C Drummond, E Fitzmaurice; D O'Sé, W Kirby; D Dwyer, L Hassett, D O'Cinneide; J O'Shea, B Clarke, MF Russell. Subs: J Brennan for Clarke, R O'Rahilly for Brennan, J Ferriter for J O'Shea

Cavan: A Donohoe - Belturbet; P Murphy - Belturbet, M Reilly - Knockbride, C McCarey - Kill; P Brady - Laragh, P Reilly- Knockbride, M McGuaran - Lacken; D McCabe - Gowna, T Farrelly - Cucus ; D Fagan - Mullahoran, R Brennan - B'Boro, A Forde Shannon Gaels as he was then; J Reilly - Belturbet, L Reilly - Knockbride, M Graham - Cavan Gaels
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on March 18, 2009, 03:12:46 PM
EDIT-  D'oh missed it on previous page  :P

Cavan u21 team for tonight....

Alan O'Meara (Bailieborough)
Patrick Carroll (Ballinagh)
Rory Dunne (Redhills)
Raymond Farrelly (Ramor)
Daniel Graham (Cavan Gaels)
James McEnroe (Ramor)
Barry Watters (Drung)
David Givney (Mountnugent)
Gearóid McKiernan (Swanlinbar)
Declan McKiernan (Killeshandra)
Eugene Keating (Cuchullains)
Robert Maloney Derham (Cavan Gaels)
Niall McDermott (Ballinagh)
Raymond Cullivan (Ballyhaise)
Conor Smith (Cuchuillains)


Dane O'Dowd, Enda Gaffney, Adrian Cole and Niall O'Reilly all out injured. Fairly strong side considering the injuries, lots of versatility there. Looking like I'll be able to make the trip up, hopefully it will be a happy one home.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on March 18, 2009, 04:51:56 PM
Has that team being realised to the media?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on March 18, 2009, 05:02:14 PM
Are Northern Sound covering the match?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on March 18, 2009, 09:19:03 PM
Beaten again by 2 points. I'm pissed off now.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on March 18, 2009, 09:42:10 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on March 18, 2009, 09:19:03 PM
Beaten again by 2 points. I'm pissed off now.

Behind for most of game, there is always next year.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: whats my name on March 18, 2009, 11:45:48 PM
wouldn't say givney had an outstanding game but kept probably the best midfielder in ulster at the minute kieran toner quiet for most of the game if that was galligan we would be singing from the high heavens about how good he was!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on March 19, 2009, 02:50:44 AM
Quote from: Homer on March 18, 2009, 03:12:46 PM
EDIT-  D'oh missed it on previous page  :P

Cavan u21 team for tonight....

Alan O'Meara (Bailieborough)
Patrick Carroll (Ballinagh)
Rory Dunne (Redhills)
Raymond Farrelly (Ramor)
Daniel Graham (Cavan Gaels)
James McEnroe (Ramor)
Barry Watters (Drung)
David Givney (Mountnugent)
Gearóid McKiernan (Swanlinbar)
Declan McKiernan (Killeshandra)
Eugene Keating (Cuchullains)
Robert Maloney Derham (Cavan Gaels)
Niall McDermott (Ballinagh)
Raymond Cullivan (Ballyhaise)
Conor Smith (Cuchuillains)


Dane O'Dowd, Enda Gaffney, Adrian Cole and Niall O'Reilly all out injured. Fairly strong side considering the injuries, lots of versatility there. Looking like I'll be able to make the trip up, hopefully it will be a happy one home.

To be honest im not suprised we lost,id have to disagree with you on it being a fairly strong side,Homer

Raymond Farrelly
Daniel Graham
James McEnroe 
Robert Maloney Derham(Not in the same class as Niall Murray )

None of those 4 are up to it at this level in my opinion

Conor Smith was highly rated from his displays with Virgina College, ive never seen anything from him in a Cavan jersey at any level.

Who was good and bad Rednblack?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on March 19, 2009, 03:45:25 PM
06.06.2009
TBC 7.00pm Cavan v Fermanagh/Down

Semi Finals
27.06.2009
TBC 7.00pm Donegal/Antrim v Cavan/Fermanagh/Down

Just noticed that these games are fixed for saturday evenings, i prefer sunday games myself especially championship games.

Have there being any venues decided, i though i seen a while back that there was.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on March 19, 2009, 04:06:28 PM
I'm almost certain that if Fermanagh win the preliminary round then we play them in Breffni. If Down win its in Clones I think.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on March 20, 2009, 09:37:23 AM
Quote from: the salmon of knowledge on March 11, 2009, 07:24:00 PM
someone wrote a comment a while back regarding something they read on the post... does anyone else find the ravings of the "journalist" writing under the heading CSI a bit much??
A couple of weeks ago he totally ridiculed larry and this week praising him.. some other stuff the guy writes is a bit iffy

Just another point on this CSI dude in the Cavan Post.  Twice he said in his artile this week "Where is Gerad Pierson gone?" as if he had vanished of the face of the earth, while else where in the paper in the Tommy Carr post match interview it said that Pierson was injured and should be back in two weeks so id say he was one of the few people interested in Cavan football who didnt know because Carr said it on radio aswell
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: the salmon of knowledge on March 20, 2009, 02:52:46 PM
think you should have reread some of that last post put it up, some of it doesnt make sense.

anyway, from what i seen of the armagh game the FF line were bad, every one of them. CHB was useless to be honest and the no 12 had a free run the whole game long. mid field were overpowered under kickouts, same as what most other people are saying really, pity though, been at most competitive matches this year with the exception of Down and have seen nothing yet to inspire me
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on March 20, 2009, 07:16:02 PM
Apologies if you cant make senso of stuff SOK, was typing in a hurry.

What you have problems understanding? Just had a quick look at it, with regards to Givney, i meant he should have been put FF if they wanted Cullivan brought out.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: club_man on March 20, 2009, 10:55:29 PM
Well lads,

Interesting to read that only one player of the starting u-21 team is overage next year (Cullivan). i know there were some good young players playing on wednesday but surely there should be more of the minor team from 3 years ago playing.

Just came accross the minorfrom 2006

James McEvoy; Niall O'Reilly, Terry Smith, Damien O'Reilly; James McEnroe, Dane O'Dowd, Barry Watters; Rory Dunne, Raymond Cullivan (0-1); Colm Smith (0-1, free), Paddy Brady, Eugene Keating (0-1); Enda McHugh (0-1), Conor Smith, Enda Gaffney (0-1, free).
Subs; Martin Dunne (0-1) for Enda Gaffney; Martin Cunningham for Conor Smith; Sean Higgins for Rory Dunne.

Quite a few lads have been lost over the past few years for various reasons.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on March 21, 2009, 12:12:58 PM
I v only just got over Mr Pains Daddys Boy jibe, I just couldnt face the Board I was that hurt :'( :'(.
But at least there was some heated debate in my absence which is always good. Im gonna be a Mammys Boy 2mrw and wont be travelling to Tullamore either.
Very disappointed about the U-21 result but I suppose I shouldnt really be, I've kinda become immune to pain from Cavan underage defeats. One thing that really riled me about the defeat was what I heard the following day,One of the subs that came on for the U-21s had been drinking all weekend and yet this lad got a run. This man obviously has no respect for himself, his club or his county.
WTF is it with this county.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on March 21, 2009, 03:05:10 PM
Quote from: put-it-up on March 21, 2009, 02:14:18 PM
Quote from: boojangles on March 21, 2009, 12:12:58 PM
I v only just got over Mr Pains Daddys Boy jibe, I just couldnt face the Board I was that hurt :'( :'(.
But at least there was some heated debate in my absence which is always good. Im gonna be a Mammys Boy 2mrw and wont be travelling to Tullamore either.
Very disappointed about the U-21 result but I suppose I shouldnt really be, I've kinda become immune to pain from Cavan underage defeats. One thing that really riled me about the defeat was what I heard the following day,One of the subs that came on for the U-21s had been drinking all weekend and yet this lad got a run. This man obviously has no respect for himself, his club or his county.
WTF is it with this county.

From the sounds of things there is going to be a fairly shocking crowd at the game tomorrow. Not going myself either. From what I hear Boojangles, that sub you are referring to was even drinking on Paddy's day..the day before the game. He wasnt drunk now or anything I believe but he was still sitting in a pub the day before a game havin a pint or two. It's not good enough and how the management did not hear about it I will never know.

I dont know when Cavans teams are going to get sick of losing. They are stuck in a rut and cant get out of it. I genuinely believe, they forget what it takes to win at this level. One bunch is going to have to stand up and say 'f*ck this'. Last years minors were the best I have seen in recent years. They genuinely looked like a team, and worked for each other. During the week, the u21's just looked like a bunch of indivuduals. To be honest - looking at them, pissed me off.

Does anyway else thing the U21's should have a separate manager? Like i accept they would need to get on with the senior manager and trust one another. But two teams should have two managers
Exactly,like surely someone on the team should have had a quiet word to the captain or manager about it. I heard he was drinking Friday,Saturday,Sunday and Monday.That kind of carry on wouldnt go on with a team or panel that was well prepared and well bonded. I really dont think it matters if the manager is doing both Senior and U-21 jobs,once he is good enough.Martin McHugh had no problem in 96,and Eamon Coleman(Marty McElkannon) nearly brought us Ulster glory in 2005. Things were starting to turn for Cavan around 2005.Our Seniors nearly bet Tyrone that year before making the Last 12 of the Championship, the U-21s were a kick of a ball away from an Ulster title.While our Minors took the eventual All-Ireland champs to a replay and extra-time.We had the one of best coaches in the business training our Seniors and U-21s and he was bringing a Tyrone type preparation into Cavan.We havent been the same since he left IMO.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on March 21, 2009, 10:03:46 PM
Hope someone can post about Offaly game as I don't think the missus would appreciate a NFL entrance fee as a Mothers Day gift!!!!!!

Bloody helll rednblack a mothers day gift for the wife, I thought it was only us savages from outside the cosmopolitan confines of Cavan town that were guilty of such deparvity. Only actin the maggot by the way, enjoy the day. Glad to hear rumors of Walsh back in action tomorrow
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: whats my name on March 22, 2009, 12:35:38 AM
boojangles i know the lad you were talking about we where talking to him sunday night when we were out in cavan town (not drinking big game next sunday) and he could barely hold a conversation i believe he was a gaels man. its actually a farce the way a lad who might be fully committed to playing football for cavan and didn't get picked for the team and go and see a lad who was drinking the whole weekend getting playing on wedensday night.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on March 22, 2009, 09:51:24 AM
The way things are in this county if a lad wasnt out drinking he would be odd.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on March 22, 2009, 11:15:41 AM
Was this lad a sub and a Gaels lad? Leaves only one option if so.
Am headin to the game this afternoon so I'll let ye all know how it pans out
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on March 22, 2009, 11:23:30 AM
Saw Higgins in the first game of the year (Celt-Man will back me on this) and he's bout 2-3 stone overweight and it shows on him being so small. Headin to the game myself so I will post my amateur opinion later. Lot of lads not going. We must be a mothering county since we can't call ourselves a footballing one anymore. :'( ;D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on March 22, 2009, 04:43:54 PM
Eventually beaten out the gate by 6 points. 1-16 to 13. Jelly missed a penalty at the end of the first, got it back to a draw with 10 to go, then Hannon and Sheridan kinda got cleaned. They were lefted isolated and gave away a goal, peno and a few points in the last ten... And no changes to be seen either. Sickener
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on March 22, 2009, 05:04:26 PM
First League game ive missed this year,so cant comment,
Conceding 1-16 wont win you many games and it would lead me to believe some of the following occured

Midfield was cleaned out giving a great supply of ball to the Faithful forwards
Full back line was left isolated(which ive just seen Celt Man has revealed)
we picked up f**k all breaks.

Forwards havent scored a goal this year in the league yet with 5 games gone,Something which needs to be rectified
Abuse we gave Jayo over the years,but by god he came up with goals when they were needed.

Looking forward to Celt Man's and Lawrence's reports on the game.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on March 22, 2009, 07:40:26 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on March 22, 2009, 05:04:26 PM
First League game ive missed this year,so cant comment,
Conceding 1-16 wont win you many games and it would lead me to believe some of the following occured

Midfield was cleaned out giving a great supply of ball to the Faithful forwards
Full back line was left isolated(which ive just seen Celt Man has revealed)
we picked up f**k all breaks.

Forwards havent scored a goal this year in the league yet with 5 games gone,Something which needs to be rectified
Abuse we gave Jayo over the years,but by god he came up with goals when they were needed.

Looking forward to Celt Man's and Lawrence's reports on the game.
Well here goes, although I'm getting pretty tired of this.
Miller - Did fine, stopped a one-on-one first half an deflected a penalty over the bar with his foot. Good distance in his kicks into a strong enough wind in the first half.

Hannon & Sheridan, apart from the first 10 mins when overhit balls in missed their men they were roasted.  Disappointing as both stood out well against Limerick and while Sheridan was close to his man at times Hannon was destroyed by McNamee.

Fanin - Not great either but was playing a strange enough roll (along with the tactics generally IMO) where he played in front of the back two and at times in the second half he swapped the free-man role with Flanagan.

McCutcheon & Dunne - The bright points for me. You just have to like McCutcheon. He marks his man (something wing-backs seem to forget they have to do these days) and offers support at the right times as shown with his point in the second half and the one he got with his left foot last week. In a team with many places up for grabs he's one of the certs in my book. Dunne is going to be a very good player. Cool on the ball and you can already see that he's filling out. May lack a little agresssion but he ran through brilliantly for a great goal chance but a poor finish/good stop denied us our first goal in how long...................?

Flanagan - As mentioned above, played a free role which backfired as far as I could see as Offaly won ball at midfield in the second half and Flanagan stayed deep in front of the full-back line. Anyone know what the point was? A very likeable player with a great future but I wonder if the plaudits for his ability to read the game are missing the point that he's not often tight to his man when he is in a one-on-one battle.

Mulvey & Galligan. Typical Galligan performance. Tried to compete without much joy and tracked back well when needed. Left most of the running forward to Mr. Mulvey who really doesn't know what he's at. He seemed to take a dive in the first half (didn't see it but he was up in no time) and then gestured to the crowd when abused for it. Mind elsewhere, a showman with very little to show at the end of the day.

Eddie - Don't know why he's there. No pace, no creativity and trying hard isn't enough. Was hauled off.

Martin Reilly - Taken off and although not especially poor, made little impression.

Lyng - Needs a good run of games but was always looking to get involved although he got a bit sidetracked in niggling with his man.

Larry - used as a third midfielder for a spell. Scored his token wonder point in the first half and left the defence sitting on another run second half (as he did against Limerick). Not involved enough though and still makes the same mistakes he always has.

Johnston - Not his biggest fan but Today he just had a poor game. Tried harder than usual and kept his mouth shut. If he wasn't overcarrying he was fouling.

Walsh - Worth a try at FF and you have to say at least Carr is trying things. Broke a couple in the second half that almost created havoc. Did better when he came out the field for a while.

Subs - Givney, Keating, Jayo. The latter had a great late goal chance but missed at the near post. The other two didn't really get into it when they came on.

Overall, a poor full-back line performance, confusing tactics which deprived us of possession at midfield and no cutting edge or goal threat up front leaves us looking pretty toothless. No idea where Mackey was as the game was made for him. No Cullivan and no McCabe from the bench so I' m not sure what the management was thinking as Offaly pulled away.

Anyway, see you all next Sunday for something similar I'd imagine. ;D >:( :-\ :'(
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Drung on March 22, 2009, 08:02:13 PM
QuoteConceding 1-16 wont win you many games and it would lead me to believe some of the following occured

Midfield was cleaned out giving a great supply of ball to the Faithful forwards
Full back line was left isolated(which ive just seen Celt Man has revealed)
we picked up f**k all breaks.

Cheers for that ballyhaiseMan. Not being smart here, but that post was a total waste of time! I wasn't at the Monaghan match on Saturday night but going by the fact that it was 0-12 each, I can safely say...

Come on Haise, you're better than that!

I actually attended the game and here's my reading of it:
Dunne and McCutcheon were very good and Flanagan did reasonably well, so the full-back line wasn't totally exposed, they were just poor and up against three savage players who knew how to play their role and revelled in the direct ball.

Cavan, on the other hand, took off the only two forwards creating anything (Eddie and Larry, who scored 0-3 from play and won the penalty) and were relying on Jelly and Lyng who looked like a pair of prima donnas today.

Johnston needs to sort his atitooood out - you only had to look at Niall McNamee to see a real, top class forward.

I wouldn't write off Dermot Sheridan or Hannon - both are quality players but were poor today. I would write off Mulvey however, and the jury is out on Galligan - he needs to quit trying the spectacular fetches and do more of the dirty work.

Walsh was also absolutely dire.
James Reilly was very good.


On a different note, folk are saying that it was an U21 sub and a Gaels player who was drinking - basically, McClarey. I don't know if this is true or not. I would be very disappointed if it was though, I rate him highly.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on March 22, 2009, 08:10:09 PM
Quote from: RednBlack on March 22, 2009, 08:07:01 PM
Quote from: Lawrence of Knockbride on March 22, 2009, 07:40:26 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on March 22, 2009, 05:04:26 PM
First League game ive missed this year,so cant comment,
Conceding 1-16 wont win you many games and it would lead me to believe some of the following occured

Midfield was cleaned out giving a great supply of ball to the Faithful forwards
Full back line was left isolated(which ive just seen Celt Man has revealed)
we picked up f**k all breaks.

Forwards havent scored a goal this year in the league yet with 5 games gone,Something which needs to be rectified
Abuse we gave Jayo over the years,but by god he came up with goals when they were needed.

Looking forward to Celt Man's and Lawrence's reports on the game.
Well here goes, although I'm getting pretty tired of this.
Miller - Did fine, stopped a one-on-one first half an deflected a penalty over the bar with his foot. Good distance in his kicks into a strong enough wind in the first half.

Hannon & Sheridan, apart from the first 10 mins when overhit balls in missed their men they were roasted.  Disappointing as both stood out well against Limerick and while Sheridan was close to his man at times Hannon was destroyed by McNamee.

Fanin - Not great either but was playing a strange enough roll (along with the tactics generally IMO) where he played in front of the back two and at times in the second half he swapped the free-man role with Flanagan.

McCutcheon & Dunne - The bright points for me. You just have to like McCutcheon. He marks his man (something wing-backs seem to forget they have to do these days) and offers support at the right times as shown with his point in the second half and the one he got with his left foot last week. In a team with many places up for grabs he's one of the certs in my book. Dunne is going to be a very good player. Cool on the ball and you can already see that he's filling out. May lack a little agresssion but he ran through brilliantly for a great goal chance but a poor finish/good stop denied us our first goal in how long...................?

Flanagan - As mentioned above, played a free role which backfired as far as I could see as Offaly won ball at midfield in the second half and Flanagan stayed deep in front of the full-back line. Anyone know what the point was? A very likeable player with a great future but I wonder if the plaudits for his ability to read the game are missing the point that he's not often tight to his man when he is in a one-on-one battle.

Mulvey & Galligan. Typical Galligan performance. Tried to compete without much joy and tracked back well when needed. Left most of the running forward to Mr. Mulvey who really doesn't know what he's at. He seemed to take a dive in the first half (didn't see it but he was up in no time) and then gestured to the crowd when abused for it. Mind elsewhere, a showman with very little to show at the end of the day.

Eddie - Don't know why he's there. No pace, no creativity and trying hard isn't enough. Was hauled off.

Martin Reilly - Taken off and although not especially poor, made little impression.

Lyng - Needs a good run of games but was always looking to get involved although he got a bit sidetracked in niggling with his man.

Larry - used as a third midfielder for a spell. Scored his token wonder point in the first half and left the defence sitting on another run second half (as he did against Limerick). Not involved enough though and still makes the same mistakes he always has.

Johnston - Not his biggest fan but Today he just had a poor game. Tried harder than usual and kept his mouth shut. If he wasn't overcarrying he was fouling.

Walsh - Worth a try at FF and you have to say at least Carr is trying things. Broke a couple in the second half that almost created havoc. Did better when he came out the field for a while.

Subs - Givney, Keating, Jayo. The latter had a great late goal chance but missed at the near post. The other two didn't really get into it when they came on.

Overall, a poor full-back line performance, confusing tactics which deprived us of possession at midfield and no cutting edge or goal threat up front leaves us looking pretty toothless. No idea where Mackey was as the game was made for him. No Cullivan and no McCabe from the bench so I' m not sure what the management was thinking as Offaly pulled away.

Anyway, see you all next Sunday for something similar I'd imagine. ;D >:( :-\ :'(

Dermot went to Cardiff to watch rugby and didn't come back for game!!
A joke right?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on March 22, 2009, 08:11:10 PM
Yeh, I could've sworn I seen Dermot roaring behind O Gara with 3 minutes left demanding that he take the drop at goal for the win :D. It that is true it is a poor reflection on the dedication of some panel members.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on March 22, 2009, 08:20:36 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on March 22, 2009, 08:11:10 PM
Yeh, I could've sworn I seen Dermot roaring behind O Gara with 3 minutes left demanding that he take the drop at goal for the win

Brilliant Myles  ;D  ;D  :D  :D

IF its true it doesnt say much for McCabe's attitude, because he needs as much game time as possible from now on to get him fit for the championship.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tierworker blue on March 22, 2009, 08:32:03 PM
Just back from Tullamore...yet another disappointing day out (will they ever end?!)
Backline was awful...seriously lacking in shape. We were never out in front for the ball, and a better forward line could've had a few goals on us. We won precious little ball in midfield, so there was no decent supply into the forwards. There was far too much passing over and back across the pitch and to players only a few yards away...at times they were nearly running into each other. We were against the wind in the first half, but very few players seemed to make allowances for this...there was some dodgy reading of the ball going on. It's a pity they did'nt have a better day out, because Offaly are no world beaters, and a result was very achievable. When we made a comeback at the three quarter mark and drew at 12 points each (our scores came from a passage of more direct play...less fiddling about resulted in our best time of the match) it looked like we were going to get a result, but their goal killed it off.

Negatives...
Very little shape to the team betimes.

Backs never first to the ball.

Missing the peno.

No ball won in midfield.

Lorcan Mulveys antics in trying to get a man sent off...shameful. I'm not a fan of his anyway, and I don't think he has what it takes to be on the team. In fairness he scored a lovely point but he caught nothing all day. For those who were'nt there, he had a bit of a shamozzle with a dude (nothing serious) which resulted in him ending up on the ground. As he got up he tried to do a Zidane on it and headbutted yer man into the stomach/chest. This only pushed the Offaly player back a bit so Mulvey grabbed his face and hit the deck like he had been shot. He then proceeded to roll around a bit holding his head. I had a direct line of sight of this and there was no contact next or near his face. I was sitting with quite a few Cavan folk and the embarassment was palpable. If the most you can contribute to a game is trying to get a man sent off then you don't deserve to wear the blue. Not that I would condone on field violence, but I would have had more respect for him if he flattened yer man and took his punishment like a man instead of trying to be sly (and failing miserably...he made a tool out of himself!)

Lyng did'nt look interested half the time.

I would'nt have taken off Eddie or Larry...there were others who should've went first. Eddie was Eddie (i'm sure we all know what that means by now!)...it was'nt pretty, but 10 out of 10 for passion and committment. He was on the ball a lot and did feck all wrong. He scored a sweet point too. Larry played well and it's great to see him back in shape and knocking over the points. He had the beating of them and should'nt have been called ashore.

A few positives...
Larry back playing well. The old turn of pace has'nt left him and he skinned all before him a few times. Nice scores.

James made a nice save in the first half. Good kickouts...pity we had nobody to catch them!

There was a small crowd but the majority seemed to be from Cavan. A good few older folk out and about...nice to see them out enjoying the game, and the multi generational banter was good.

Fair play to the Offaly gang...O' Connor park is looking well since the renovation...I hav'nt been there in over 10 years.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on March 22, 2009, 08:40:26 PM
Quote from: RednBlack on March 22, 2009, 08:24:20 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on March 22, 2009, 08:11:10 PM
Yeh, I could've sworn I seen Dermot roaring behind O Gara with 3 minutes left demanding that he take the drop at goal for the win :D. It that is true it is a poor reflection on the dedication of some panel members.
very accurate info and says a lot. not even going to comment on todays farce in Tullamore. Took my life in my hands bringing all down there and boy did it backfire. Lunch in the Kilmore, a walk in Killykeen and a pint in the Meadow View would have been more fun!!!!!!!!!!!!! I wouldn't agree with Drung's comments re. Walsh He did he what he could with the shite ball coming in at him. Also considering the man has been out out of action for over three weeks and struggling with ankle injuries doesn't reflect well on the back up we have ie NONE. Full back line is chronic, midfield well......have yet to see any man at midfield catch a ball coming from 3 yards behind his man!!! And this is happening all the time. Same in Armagh and Breffni with U21s and Minors. Rory Dunne is the only bright light I see at the moment. Galligan and Mulvey cutting no salt for me at the moment. I expect every player at this level to be able to run so its not a good enough reason to heap praise on Galligan. His overall contribution and distribution not of high enough quality. Mulvey..........heard him called Ronaldo today for his amazing dive. Don;t like to see that.....for me his antics in Newry refusing to shake hands and now today are nothing short of bad sportsmanship.

We could do worse than try Rory Dunne at midfield.He was very good in the Intermediate Final last year against Ray Cullivan. Gunner would slot into wing half back when he returns.
Tommy Carr should really consider dropping McCabe off the panel for that type of behaviour,it just signifies everything that has been wrong with the Cavan scene for the past number of years.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on March 22, 2009, 08:53:54 PM
i wasnt a big fan of Dunne when he first came on the scene and was tried at full back as his lack of speed off the mark was a problem. But he was very good when he came on against Limerick, and was very good at midfield and wing back for Redhills last year.
I believe hed offer more than Mulvey at Midfield anyway.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on March 22, 2009, 09:02:51 PM
Have to say i am surprised with story on McCabe. He has his faults and he pisses me off with his mouthing and all that but I never heard anyone question his commitment before.

Does anyone think Carr is treating this league as a big experiement? I don't mind that he does as long as we stay in Div 3!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on March 22, 2009, 09:30:57 PM
Cheers for that ballyhaiseMan. Not being smart here, but that post was a total waste of time! I wasn't at the Monaghan match on Saturday night but going by the fact that it was 0-12 each, I can safely say...

Come on Haise, you're better than that!



Drung, looking at some of your posts I'd say we are two of the "older" posters on this thread. Now I know from personal experience that age can bring bitterness laced with cynicism but come on now, give Haise Man a break. Or if you do have to pick him up on trivial detail sure you could try pm'ing him. Thanks for the report on the game today by the way.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on March 23, 2009, 10:23:29 AM
Any sign of McCabe yet?

We can do without him now if them stories are true, he let the team, management and supporters down.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on March 23, 2009, 01:04:47 PM
Right first time near a computer to put more than a few lines of my thoughts up here....
Kinda typical of Cavan to get you more than a bit of hope by drawing level with ten minutes to go and the wind in their backs then to fall apart so completely in the remainder of the game....
Couldn't believe how much space there was left between the half back/midfield area and the full back line that added to the fact that both Hannon and to a less extend Sheridan weren't at the races led to Offaly completely dominating the match once we drew level.
Couldn't understand why Cavan kicked it as much as they did in the first half, especially kicking it high. They were playing against a very strong breeze and Under 16s will tell you that you have to run the ball in the face of a breeze like that and save the most of the kicking for the second half.

Miller - was solid in goals and had a good save with his leg for the peno, kickouts were grand but we need to have another option for them other than just kicking it long and hoping to catch it or get the break. Dublin had a nice system which has worked for a good few kickouts in a most games of dropping the ball over the corner backs head, pulling the half back away and Shane Ryan runs into the space collecting the ball - would like to see something like that tried with Cavan.

Hannon - Just isn't good enough at the minute, no doubting his ability from previous years but he is carrying a site of weight and doesn't look like he has lost much of it from the Down game, he is constantly behind his man and has none of the speed which served him well any other year.  Got caught out a couple of times kicking or passing the ball out of defence, reinforcing my theory that is isn't a good "footballer"

Sheridan - Tends to keep his marker a whole lot more honest, insofar as he gets a lot closer to him and so can get more pressure on the ball.  Struggled at times yesterday and sometimes after doing great work to get the ball he would shoot himself in the foot by dropping it or losing it.  Overall though an improvement at full back

Fannin - Did well enough until he was told or decided to follow his man out to midfield where he was lost and totally out of the game, should have been deployed in the 40 yards of open space in front of the other 2 full backs.

McCutcheon - Himself and Dunne were the pick of the backs and actually the pick of the whole cavan team by a good distance, again got forward to score a point but not at the expense of his defensive duties. Was close to his man at all times and broke the ball away from him several times during the game, really cementing his place.

Flanagan - Had a quiet game, didn't exactly set the world on fire but did nothing wrong either.  Don't think he is a CHB though and would like to see him on the wing. Saw a lot of ball as the spare man in defence especially in the first half and used it well but maybe could be closer to his man when marking him

Dunne - Very impressed with him, picks up a lot of loose ball around the half back line and looks a good bit bigger than last year.  Would like to see him and Flanagan swap, just to see if Dunne's greater size could be more useful in that position.  Should have made better work of his goal attempt, it seemed to be hit straight at the keeper.

Galligan & Mulvey - Mid field struggled big time yesterday and I think we are gonna be found out in this area more times than not this year.  Both do a lot of good but sometimes I feel it papers over the cracks.  While a lot of people give Galligan a lot of credit for being so fit and it is to be commended, I think he isn't so much more fitter than other players as he was in the McKenna Cup and so he is a lot quieter in games now.

Eddie - As usual Eddie went through a lot of the donkey work and tried to work the ball against the wind in the first half.  Scored a nice point in the first half maybe left one or two more scores behind him, overall I thought he played well enough.  seems to be taken off no matter how he plays and that can eat into a players confidence even Eddie's!!

Lyng - Not too sure if this is his best position although I have no other suggestions where to play him.  he isn't the quickest so can't beat all that many boys with pure speed, sometimes with Lyng I think we lack a bit of penetration at CHF.  Again though, same as Flanagan, sees a lot of the ball and rarely loses it or doesn't find a man.

Martin Reilly - some of his kick passing and decision making was poor although scored a great 45 in the second half and as usual goes through a lot of work off the ball

Jelly - some nice scores from play and frees without playing well at all. needs to close his gob at times and remember no one ever hits an intention bad pass.  Cavan need to get away from " if jelly plays well then cavan play well because the opposition is then true too"

Walsh - quiet game form the big man and when it wasn't working for him in there, would like to have seen him brought out around the middle

larry- gettin back to a bit of form, clipped over a few points from play, won the penalty and tracked back a couple of won the ball, only kinda realising it now but Larry was probably the pick of the forwards
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: the salmon of knowledge on March 23, 2009, 01:32:13 PM
mccabe was last seen in a cardiff alehouse signing autographs pretending to be paul o connell, he even robbed a powerade tracksuit top from munterconaught to pull off this charade. shame on you dermot >:(
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on March 24, 2009, 01:05:39 PM
Thanks for all the reports lads.
Hard to know what to make of the whole situation.
Im sure McKeever will be getting a recall soon enough.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on March 24, 2009, 02:06:00 PM
Hannon will come could eventually I'd stick with him the matches will have him back in shape a lot quicker than a 100 hours training.

Sheridan has brought an improvement at full back but tends to give away a few too many frees. I don't think he has been fully tested yet and would worry that when he is he'll be seeing yellow.

Worryingly Carr has been very slow to make changes and in some cases has ended making them a week late (Podge coming off against Tipp, Larry subed at the weekend)

Lads can any of ye tell the last time we scored a goal?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on March 24, 2009, 02:30:27 PM
Last time we scored a goal - not counting challenge games - was Pierson against Armagh in the McKenna cup! Long time ago!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on March 24, 2009, 02:57:09 PM
Homer is Reilly still on the panel.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on March 24, 2009, 03:48:30 PM
I think i might become a sunshine supporter and only go to championship games, following Cavan is bad for your health.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: whats my name on March 24, 2009, 04:21:58 PM
Celt Man whats your predictions for the league fixtures this weekend who will be the winners and losers out of each division??
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on March 24, 2009, 05:58:42 PM
Quote from: whats my name on March 24, 2009, 04:21:58 PM
Celt Man whats your predictions for the league fixtures this weekend who will be the winners and losers out of each division??

You can put Drung down as losers against Kilinkere anyway.  No county players and 4 other lads going to a Stag and with a panel of about 18 there will only be one winner.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on March 24, 2009, 06:09:58 PM
Division One

Mullahoran V Ramor           M'horan by 3
Ballinagh V Denn               Ballinagh by 5
Cavan Gaels V Gowna        Draw
Cuchullains V Castlerahan    Cucu's by 4
Killygarry V Lavey               K'Garry by 2
Crosserlough V Belturbet    C'lough by 4
Redhills V Lacken               Redhills by 1

Div Two
Kingscourt V B'Haise          K'Court by 2   :(
Crosserlough V Cootehill     Cootehill by 7
Kil'shandra V Drumalee       Drumalee by 2
Cavan Gaels B V Drumgoon  Drumgoon by 5
Killinkere V Drung               K'Kere by 8
Drumlane V Sherock           Drumlane by 2
Knockbride V Kill                 Knockbride by 10

Div 3
Ballymachugh V Munnterconnacht    B'mchugh by 5
Buttlersbridge V Templeport           Bbridge by 4
Shannon Gls V Corlough                  S Gaels by 3
Swad V Cornafean                         Swad by 4
Killdallon V Laragh                          Draw
Mountnugent V Baileborough          B'boro by 3
Killygarry V Arva                             Arva by 6
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on March 24, 2009, 08:02:32 PM
Quote from: RednBlack on March 24, 2009, 03:16:36 PM
Q. What does a Cavan Senior Footballer and a Kilkenny Senior Footballer got in common?

A. Neither has scored a goal in the current NFL.

We are in top class company now lads!!!! Podge still on panel.

Heard there was a bit of dirt flying around at the County Board meeting last night. I believe Killeshandra got stuck in about the Under 21 mess and also a few others had a go about Senior team. Also heard a few clubs had a go about the mess that is Bord Peil na nOg and the messing that has gone with them this year. Top table all stuck together and Tom & Jerry got great praise for the work they are doing at underage. Could laugh only it would hurt so much!!!!!
Any idea what Killeshandra's problem was RNB? I have a hunch. Word is that both Mackey & Cullivan were sick at the weekend by the way. Any truth in the McCabe thing?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on March 24, 2009, 08:49:54 PM
Don't know what Killeshandra were complaining about. I did hear that Tommy Carr rang Thomais Reilly to tell him he wasn't starting the game against Armagh and then proceeded to tell him he was very impressed with him and was thinking of bringing him into the senior panel ???
Thay may also be annoyed with the way Damian Higgins was dropped from the panel without getting as much as a phone call. Or maybe they just want King to be new manager and are trying to get a few million from the county board to fund it!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on March 24, 2009, 10:21:39 PM
Imperial Bar A.C.F.L. Division 1 Round 3
Mullahoran v Ramor Utd - Fancy Ramor to sneek this by a point or two
Ballinagh v Denn - Ballinagh by a 2 or 3
Cavan Gaels v Gowna - Can't look past the Gaels
Cuchulainns v Castlerahan - hard one to call, maybe Castlerahan will miss county men more, Cucus to win
Killygarry v Lavey - Fancy Killygarry to win a close one, draw wouldn't be a shock
Crosserlough v Belturbet - Home win, Jayo a big loss
Redhills v Lacken - Fancy Redhills to win, McGrath park is a hard place to win

Cathal Brady Audi A.C.F.L. Division 2 Round 3
Crosserlough v Cootehill - Ourselves by a few points, C'lough had been disappointing so far
Killeshandra v Drumalee - not too sure, drumalee maybe by 2
Cavan Gaels v Drumgoon - goonies to struggle without co men but expect them to sneak thru, don't be surprised if its a draw
Killinkere v Drung - defer to cavan4ever's judgement, killinkere win
Drumlane v Shercock - can't look past drumlane
Knockbride v Kill - Knockbride by 5 or 6, tierney v mckenna will be some battle though
Kingscourt v Ballyhaise - Home win, kingscourt going well by all reports

John Brady Insurances Ltd A.C.F.L. Division 3 Round 3
Ballymachugh v Munterconnacht - bakkymachugh hard to beat at home, home win
Butlersbridge v Templeport - Bridge by 2
Shannon Gaels v Corlough - Shannon gaels by 3
Swanlinbar v Cornafean - Swad to win by few scores
Kildallon v Laragh Utd - maybe tie of the round in div 3, gonna go for laragh
Mountnugent v Bailieboro - expect bailieboro to continue good run
Killygarry v Arva - arva to beat a stuggling k'garry team
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4sam on March 25, 2009, 09:08:02 AM
Mackey and Cullivan both have the mumps. I know for sure that Mackey will be out this weekend, not sure on Cullivan.

Also Sean Brady broke his nose at training on Paddy's morning in a collision with Eddie. Think it needs an operation and he will be out for around 2 months.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on March 25, 2009, 12:54:51 PM
Quote from: cavan4sam on March 25, 2009, 09:08:02 AM
Mackey and Cullivan both have the mumps. I know for sure that Mackey will be out this weekend, not sure on Cullivan.

Also Sean Brady broke his nose at training on Paddy's morning in a collision with Eddie. Think it needs an operation and he will be out for around 2 months.

Mumps is a serious dose in adults. I'd say you'd be 2 weeks getting over it properly.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on March 25, 2009, 01:33:13 PM
Quote from: RednBlack on March 25, 2009, 11:53:40 AM
Quote from: Lawrence of Knockbride on March 24, 2009, 08:02:32 PM
Quote from: RednBlack on March 24, 2009, 03:16:36 PM
Q. What does a Cavan Senior Footballer and a Kilkenny Senior Footballer got in common?

A. Neither has scored a goal in the current NFL.

We are in top class company now lads!!!! Podge still on panel.

Heard there was a bit of dirt flying around at the County Board meeting last night. I believe Killeshandra got stuck in about the Under 21 mess and also a few others had a go about Senior team. Also heard a few clubs had a go about the mess that is Bord Peil na nOg and the messing that has gone with them this year. Top table all stuck together and Tom & Jerry got great praise for the work they are doing at underage. Could laugh only it would hurt so much!!!!!
Any idea what Killeshandra's problem was RNB? I have a hunch. Word is that both Mackey & Cullivan were sick at the weekend by the way. Any truth in the McCabe thing?
Want Under 21s to be kept away from senior set up and that seniors play mckenna cup minus under 21 and college contingent. get in training lads we all may be needed in 2010 if we rest all that gang!!!!

McCabe info is solid. Sure he must have had a ball in Cardiff compared to Tullamore.

Check out Celt photos of game. Shows Hannon winning a ball in front of McNamee. That photographer deserves great credit in snapping the only one of the day!!!!!   :D
IF the McCabe story is true and UNLESS he genuinely missed a boat/flight home, and I mean a cancellation rather than him being late, a big blue f**k OFF to you Mr.McCabe. I'm sure the moderator will make an allowance here.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on March 25, 2009, 07:10:34 PM
don't think Dermot could possibly have been in Cardiff, well not in the ground at any rate. ROG'S (passing) resemblance to Pierce Mckenna (from a great distance) would have been too much, he'd have been in there barging him off the ball every time the Ireland Number 10 was even threathening to line up a kick.

Seriously for a moment, somebody asked if we think TC has written off the league and is using it to experiment for the championship. I could see what he's at up to a point, just hope to god we don't end up experimenting in Ruislip and Ballyraggett, Co. Kilkenny during next years league campaign.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on March 25, 2009, 08:33:34 PM
I'm all for experimenting now and getting the right lads on the panel. I can take some short term pain (i.e. loses to Longford, Tipp etc) for the long term gain. However, at the start of the year - unlike many - I was happy to say I only wanted Cavan to maintain  their Div 3 status and that promotion was not a milestone that was a must. Avoiding relegation is a must for me though. You do not want to be going around Div 4 as it is no good for developing a team. I think Sunday is a big game as we need to bury this Roscommon hoodoo and then make ourselves safe. I note our score difference is also shite which means we need to be picking up these points or we could be in trouble.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on March 26, 2009, 04:28:48 PM
The hilarious thing is that despite doing our best not to, we continue to have a chance of promotion. Mind you, relegation is just as big a possibility as well.

We're two points off the second placed team at the moment and the way teams are taking points off each other, God knows what might happen. That said, it does look like TC is more concerned with testing his resources and so on rather than chasing the top two spots, and that's fine by me as long as we stay in Division 3. I thought we were going to kick on after the Down game but we just went back to the regular level of performance again.

I'd say if we're in danger of the drop, we'll pull a big display out again like we did in Newry and stay up.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on March 26, 2009, 06:48:09 PM
Quote from: cavanmaniac on March 26, 2009, 04:28:48 PM
The hilarious thing is that despite doing our best not to, we continue to have a chance of promotion. Mind you, relegation is just as big a possibility as well.

We're two points off the second placed team at the moment and the way teams are taking points off each other, God knows what might happen. That said, it does look like TC is more concerned with testing his resources and so on rather than chasing the top two spots, and that's fine by me as long as we stay in Division 3. I thought we were going to kick on after the Down game but we just went back to the regular level of performance again.

I'd say if we're in danger of the drop, we'll pull a big display out again like we did in Newry and stay up.


...........like a tap............. :P
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on March 26, 2009, 08:09:59 PM
Lack of county players will affect a lot of club's this weekend. My own club won't be too badly hit though :D


Looking forward to the game on Sunday. Think Cavan are going to put in a really big performance, even better than the Down one.

Any see the Celt this week? Interesting article about the U21's exit last week.

Is Pierson fit for this weekend? We need his intelligence on the field. I think he was doing a bit of running during the week?Any got any predictions for the team or other team news?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on March 26, 2009, 08:20:06 PM
By the way, I have asked this before but how come Eamon Reilly from the Gaels is not on the Cavan Panel. Don't really understand that!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on March 27, 2009, 03:34:43 PM
Not sure if il get to the game Sunday as one of our lads is getting married Tommorow and the hangover will be serious. Look forward to the usual reports if i dont make it.
As for the team

cant see too many changes
id imagine the Backline will stay the same.
Probably Walsh to Midfield in place of Mulvey if hes fit enough.
Givney brought in to Full Forward.
Id love to see McCutcheon tried at Full back  but i cant see it happening.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on March 28, 2009, 09:46:22 PM
We beat Crosserlough by 2 points this evening... Disastrous start, 2 goals in the first ten minutes, 8 points down at one stage.  I think Belturbet beat their senior team handy enough before us, Jayo seemed to do well for them.
I know Kilinkere beat Drung by 4 points or so.  Any more results?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on March 28, 2009, 09:50:51 PM
Quote from: Celt_Man on March 28, 2009, 09:46:22 PM
We beat Crosserlough by 2 points this evening... Disastrous start, 2 goals in the first ten minutes, 8 points down at one stage.  I think Belturbet beat their senior team handy enough before us, Jayo seemed to do well for them.
I know Kilinkere beat Drung by 4 points or so.  Any more results?

Jayo did well? Are county men allowed play with their clubs the day before a Cavan league match?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on March 29, 2009, 12:26:41 AM
bboro beat mnugent.was a dog rough game.redhills beat lacken and kingscort drew with ballyhaise.     G
Eddie at ff tomoro; flanagan a wf with gunner in at cb. Hannon is dropped, same midfield.givney in at wf.think lyng plays.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on March 29, 2009, 12:27:59 AM
No i believe a 24 man panel was named and no one in it could play
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tierworker blue on March 29, 2009, 04:06:09 PM
Cavan 0-14 Roscommon 0-06.
Jesus those eejits on the radio would wreck your head!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on March 29, 2009, 04:36:46 PM
Poor game really but who gives a damn when we got the result. Hopefully that should see us safe only a hiding against Louth and a rake of results would see us dragged back into the relegation dog fight. The sending off for Roscommon change the game and Cavan only pulled away at that stage. 
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on March 29, 2009, 04:43:59 PM
Bang on Celt Man. Difficult game to analyse from a Cavan point of view as Roscommon were very poor. Poor shooting in the first and more mentality when they had Duning sent off. And as an aside, what an ass that lad is. Still goodperformances all over the field esp The Gunner IMO who was everywhere. Thought Flanagan also did well. But no really bad performances and I'll make an allowance for both sides due to the poor conditions. A good performance against Louth to lift the spirits and we'll be on the favourable side of average going into the championship. Anyone like the free against Dunne for his foot-block in the second half? What a decision.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on March 29, 2009, 04:58:52 PM
We stuttered our way through it but a wins a win.Roscommon were very poor.We are still gonna be in serious trouble in the full-back line.When they were kicking high ball in we were in serious bother.Thought referee was a joke,some of his decisions were beyond belief.
I couldnt understand them taking Givney off.The problem at that stage wasnt in the half-forwards.Niall Lynch is getting his man in there anyway.Flanagan and the Gunner were probably the pick of them,Flanagans work rate is unreal while Gunner reads the game so well.
Killeshandra bet us by 2 yesterday.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: whats my name on March 29, 2009, 05:26:12 PM
love to know why givney was taken off???? lyng was poor again gunner was serious mccutcheon was very good Flanagan very good as well the back line was poor very small compaired to the rossies forward line and look dodgy under high balls!!!!!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on March 29, 2009, 06:14:29 PM
Quote from: whats my name on March 29, 2009, 05:26:12 PM
love to know why givney was taken off???? lyng was poor again gunner was serious mccutcheon was very good Flanagan very good as well the back line was poor very small compaired to the rossies forward line and look dodgy under high balls!!!!!
Have to disagree there, Lyngs tackling and work rate was superb.His running off the ball was good too.he isnt fully right yet but he is getting there.We need Micky Lyng back the way he was and the more games he gets the better IMO.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on March 29, 2009, 06:28:24 PM
Who was your full-forward that broke his arm Boojangles? Heard he was only back from a cruciate injury?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4sam on March 29, 2009, 06:40:43 PM
Lads did ye really think Flanagan was that good today? I actually thought it was one of his poorer performances, maybe Ive just come to expect too much from him?? Thought Gunner was the best player on the field today by a long way.

We had a good win against the cucus yesterday considering we had no county men and our full back was missing.

Was talking to Sean Brady last night and he had his operation on his nose on Monday wll be out for another 4 weeks.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on March 29, 2009, 06:45:21 PM
Quote from: Lawrence of Knockbride on March 29, 2009, 06:28:24 PM
Who was your full-forward that broke his arm Boojangles? Heard he was only back from a cruciate injury?
Full-Back Laurence-it was Kevin Gavigan a Donegal native.Was out for a year and a half with his Cruciate ligament and only his 3rd game back.I had the misfortune of seeing the arm and it wasnt pretty.Compound fracture in 3 places and he had to get a plate and pins in it.Very unfortunate and he will be out of work for a month at least now too.He'l be a big loss.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on March 30, 2009, 12:49:38 AM
The decision against Dunne was absolutely hilarious! The ref was mind boggling at times. Thought Gunner was excellent and cant believe someone thought lyng was poor. For me, he was one of our top 3 players. Got on the ball a lot and lead by example in the forward with his workrate and tackling - as well as his passing.

Also thought our midfield done pretty well. Galligan in particular done Trojan work. Have a lot of time for Dunne, think he is a good young lad. But what the management done to Givney was shocking. Personally I thought they used him as an example, to show after their reluctance to change things last week, that they arent afraid to make changes anymore. Really harsh on the young lad and they are completely messing with his confidence. I admit he hadn't really got into the game but at the same time I felt he did not do anything to justify whipping him off.

Anyone else wonder how Eddie stayed on for so long?

PS. You have got to love Larry

Roscommon were poor, but we were deserved victors
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on March 30, 2009, 08:37:56 AM
Sorry Boojangles, meant to type full-back. Larry is funny, esp the way he didn't break his stride as he both celebrated and ran off the field after scoring. I thought Lyng had a good game but did have a spell in the second-half where he had two or three sloppy passes in a row. I'd really like to know the extent to the whole McCabe thing-that's bothering me. Some interesting club scores at the weekend. Gaels' second team beating Drumgoon was a bit of turn up for one.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on March 30, 2009, 10:32:31 AM
Was at the game yesterday and agree with a lot that has been previously said. Gunner superb. Flanagan very good. A much better show from Lyng, we badly need his creativity. I thought the backs played very well after an initial shaky start. I complained last week that the management were a bit slow to call ashore but they really went from one extreme to another with Givney.

Ballinagh beat Denn by four at the weekend, nothing major to report from it.

I heard Johnny Crowe did some leg-ligament damage in Crosselough's defeat to Belturbet and will be out for a while now.

Other results as per Aertel...

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Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on March 30, 2009, 10:41:17 AM
Quote from: Homer on March 30, 2009, 10:32:31 AM
Was at the game yesterday and agree with a lot that has been previously said. Gunner superb. Flanagan very good. A much better show from Lyng, we badly need his creativity. I thought the backs played very well after an initial shaky start. I complained last week that the management were a bit slow to call ashore but they really went from one extreme to another with Givney.

Ballinagh beat Denn by four at the weekend, nothing major to report from it.

I heard Johnny Crowe did some leg-ligament damage in Crosselough's defeat to Belturbet and will be out for a while now.

Other results as per Aertel...

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Is gaynor back playing with ye yet?

Good to see a new team like Redhills do well in Div 1 after coming up the leagues quickly.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on March 30, 2009, 11:18:01 AM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on March 30, 2009, 10:41:17 AM

Is gaynor back playing with ye yet?

Good to see a new team like Redhills do well in Div 1 after coming up the leagues quickly.

Gaynor isn't long off the crutches after an ankle operation, won't be back til closer to the Summer.

Redhills have really hit the ground running and deserve a lot of credit considering they are playing without Paddy Gumley and also missing Rory Dunne at the weekend.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on March 30, 2009, 11:37:21 AM
Quote from: Homer on March 30, 2009, 11:18:01 AM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on March 30, 2009, 10:41:17 AM

Is gaynor back playing with ye yet?

Good to see a new team like Redhills do well in Div 1 after coming up the leagues quickly.

Gaynor isn't long off the crutches after an ankle operation, won't be back til closer to the Summer.

Redhills have really hit the ground running and deserve a lot of credit considering they are playing without Paddy Gumley and also missing Rory Dunne at the weekend.

They have a lot of good young players and their not afraid to use them.  There is good competiton for places and the players seem to have a good attuide to training etc.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Babe Ruth 47 on March 30, 2009, 03:53:04 PM
Was at the Cavan match (Desperated crowd by the way) and as previously stated not a huge pile can be read into it. I was impressed by the Gunner though, thought he had a powerful game.

With regard to the full back line, is it just me or does anyone else brake out in a fit of skakes and  cold sweats when a high ball is launched it and there is panic stations below in the full back line awaiting its arrival. This line as a unit will be dismantled come championship. I don't mean to harp on about it either but i heard that, (hopefuly 'RednBlack@ can confrim it) Eoin Smith, had a powerful game for Killygarry at fullback. I think he may be on the Cavan Junior panel but is there any hope he will get a run at the senior position. Is it too late at this stage for a call up?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on March 30, 2009, 05:20:21 PM
Dont see how it would be took late, Eoin Smith would be fairly fit if hes playing with Killygarry and Cavan developmental panel, We are not out in the championship until the 6th June,over two months away.
Its a bit different   to bringing  lads back after the league is over when we are out in the Preliminary round of the championship 3/4 weeks later in early May(ala Mick McDonald last year)

If we could get full back sorted we would have basis of a solid team in my opinion.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on March 31, 2009, 08:13:33 AM
Quote from: RednBlack on March 31, 2009, 12:02:23 AM
Quote from: Babe Ruth 47 on March 30, 2009, 03:53:04 PM
Was at the Cavan match (Desperated crowd by the way) and as previously stated not a huge pile can be read into it. I was impressed by the Gunner though, thought he had a powerful game.

With regard to the full back line, is it just me or does anyone else brake out in a fit of skakes and  cold sweats when a high ball is launched it and there is panic stations below in the full back line awaiting its arrival. This line as a unit will be dismantled come championship. I don't mean to harp on about it either but i heard that, (hopefuly 'RednBlack@ can confrim it) Eoin Smith, had a powerful game for Killygarry at fullback. I think he may be on the Cavan Junior panel but is there any hope he will get a run at the senior position. Is it too late at this stage for a call up?

Ted's has had three top class games at FB against Gowna, Castlerahan and Lavey and his 15 minute cameo at midfield against Lavey swung the game for us. Also did v well on Junior County team so well worth a look at Senior.

This is like a broken record on this board,  either the management dont rate him or else they are stupid.   I find it hard to believe that their is a full back out their playing well every week and he isnt on the panel when we are crying out for one.  Could someone from your club not talk to someone to get them to have a look at him, or does anyone know do they even go to games.  Well Peter doesnt for obvious reasons.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on March 31, 2009, 08:52:33 AM
Would probably work.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on March 31, 2009, 05:17:16 PM
Is Tommy Carr himself or Niall Lynch doing the training?
Larry and Mulvey look in far better shape than ive seen them in years.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on March 31, 2009, 09:04:13 PM
Quote from: RednBlack on March 31, 2009, 08:19:17 AM
Quote from: cavan4ever on March 31, 2009, 08:13:33 AM
Quote from: RednBlack on March 31, 2009, 12:02:23 AM
Quote from: Babe Ruth 47 on March 30, 2009, 03:53:04 PM
Was at the Cavan match (Desperated crowd by the way) and as previously stated not a huge pile can be read into it. I was impressed by the Gunner though, thought he had a powerful game.

With regard to the full back line, is it just me or does anyone else brake out in a fit of skakes and  cold sweats when a high ball is launched it and there is panic stations below in the full back line awaiting its arrival. This line as a unit will be dismantled come championship. I don't mean to harp on about it either but i heard that, (hopefuly 'RednBlack@ can confrim it) Eoin Smith, had a powerful game for Killygarry at fullback. I think he may be on the Cavan Junior panel but is there any hope he will get a run at the senior position. Is it too late at this stage for a call up?


Ted's has had three top class games at FB against Gowna, Castlerahan and Lavey and his 15 minute cameo at midfield against Lavey swung the game for us. Also did v well on Junior County team so well worth a look at Senior.

This is like a broken record on this board,  either the management dont rate him or else they are stupid.   I find it hard to believe that their is a full back out their playing well every week and he isnt on the panel when we are crying out for one.  Could someone from your club not talk to someone to get them to have a look at him, or does anyone know do they even go to games.  Well Peter doesnt for obvious reasons.

Rumour has it the club are going to transfer him to Cuchullains to get him a run!!!!!!!!!!!!




Eh? a trek across town to Terry Coyle Park mightn't go amiss either
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Swadman on April 02, 2009, 08:24:31 AM
QuoteWalsh has helped Larry lose the weight and get fit with a personal fitness programme.
Now if he could only get him to look up and pass to a blue jersey once in a while !!! ;D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on April 03, 2009, 12:23:08 PM
Think I broke even with the last round of perdictions although there were a fair few draws across the 3 divisions....
For what its worth, here's how I think it might pan out this weekend, board has gone quiet the last few days anyway...

Imperial Bar A.C.F.L. Division 1 Round 4
Castlerahan v Cavan Gaels - CG by a few scores
Belturbet v Killygarry - tough one to call
Ramor Utd. v Crosserlough - Clough were terrible last week in the wee bit I saw before our game, Ramor to win
Gowna v Ballinagh - Gowna to bounce back after last week
Lavey v Cuchulainns - Not too sure at all, maybe cucu to sneak it
Redhills v Mullahoran - Gonna go for a home win here
Lacken v Denn - Lacken by a few points

Cathal Brady Audi A.C.F.L. Division 2 Round 4
Drumgoon v Killeshandra - Goonies to bounce back but only by a point or two
Ballyhaise v Cavan Gaels - Would expect Ballyhaise to shade it but CG will cause problems and will
Drung v Kingscourt - Must win for drung so expect them to take points off K'court, home win
Shercock v Killinkere - tough one to call, great result for shercock last wk
Knockbride v Drumlane - draw wouldn't be a shock but expect knockbride by a score
Kill v Cootehill - Not touching this one at all, local derbies can be a lottery
Drumalee v Crosserlough - Drumalee win by 4 or 5

John Brady Insurances Ltd A.C.F.L. Division 3 Round 4
Templeport v Ballymachugh - Templeport by a few
Corlough v Butlersbridge - exect the bridge to win
Cornafean v Shannon Gaels - home win
Laragh Utd v Swanlinbar - Laragh to continue good form but will get it tough against Swad
Bailieboro v Kildallon - Bailieboro  by a few points
Arva v Munterconnacht - not sure at all, go for home win
Killygarry v Mountnugent - Mountnugent, killygarry are looking like certs to drop this year
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on April 03, 2009, 02:43:15 PM
Last weeks predictions
Division One

Mullahoran V Ramor           M'horan by 3       Right
Ballinagh V Denn               Ballinagh by 5       Right
Cavan Gaels V Gowna        Draw                   Wrong
Cuchullains V Castlerahan    Cucu's by 4          Wrong
Killygarry V Lavey               K'Garry by 2          Right
Crosserlough V Belturbet    C'lough by 4          Wrong
Redhills V Lacken               Redhills by 1           Right

Div Two
Kingscourt V B'Haise          K'Court by 2          Wrong (thankfully)
Crosserlough V Cootehill     Cootehill by 7         Right
Kil'shandra V Drumalee       Drumalee by 2        Wrong
Cavan Gaels B V Drumgoon  Drumgoon by 5      Wrong
Killinkere V Drung               K'Kere by 8             Right
Drumlane V Sherock           Drumlane by 2         Wrong
Knockbride V Kill                 Knockbride by 10     Right

Div 3
Ballymachugh V Munnterconnacht    B'mchugh by 5    wrong
Buttlersbridge V Templeport           Bbridge by 4        wrong
Shannon Gls V Corlough                  S Gaels by 3        right
Swad V Cornafean                         Swad by 4           wrong
Killdallon V Laragh                          Draw                   wrong
Mountnugent V Baileborough          B'boro by 3          Right
Killygarry V Arva                             Arva by 6            Match postponed

9/20  :-[ , not a good start.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on April 03, 2009, 02:46:09 PM
Hope i do better this week.
Imperial Bar A.C.F.L. Division 1 Round 4
Castlerahan v Cavan Gaels - Cavan Gaels
Belturbet v Killygarry - Belturbet
Ramor Utd. v Crosserlough - Ramor
Gowna v Ballinagh - Ballinagh
Lavey v Cuchulainns - Cuchullains
Redhills v Mullahoran - Mullahoran
Lacken v Denn - Lacken

Cathal Brady Audi A.C.F.L. Division 2 Round 4
Drumgoon v Killeshandra - Drumgoon
Ballyhaise v Cavan Gaels - B'Haise
Drung v Kingscourt - Kingscourt
Shercock v Killinkere - draw
Knockbride v Drumlane - Knockbride
Kill v Cootehill - Cootehill
Drumalee v Crosserlough - Drumalee

John Brady Insurances Ltd A.C.F.L. Division 3 Round 4
Templeport v Ballymachugh - Templeport
Corlough v Butlersbridge - Buttlersbridge
Cornafean v Shannon Gaels - Shannon Gaels
Laragh Utd v Swanlinbar - Laragh
Bailieboro v Kildallon - Bailieboro 
Arva v Munterconnacht - Munnterconnacht
Killygarry v Mountnugent - Mountnugent,
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Babe Ruth 47 on April 03, 2009, 06:10:08 PM
Shur I might as well give it a rattle too....

Imperial Bar A.C.F.L. Division 1 Round 4
Castlerahan v Cavan Gaels - Cavan Gaels
Belturbet v Killygarry - Killygarry
Ramor Utd. v Crosserlough - Crosserlough
Gowna v Ballinagh - Draw
Lavey v Cuchulainns - Cuchullains
Redhills v Mullahoran - Mullahoran
Lacken v Denn - Lacken

Cathal Brady Audi A.C.F.L. Division 2 Round 4
Drumgoon v Killeshandra - Drumgoon
Ballyhaise v Cavan Gaels - Ballyhaise
Drung v Kingscourt - Kingscourt
Shercock v Killinkere - Shercock
Knockbride v Drumlane - Knockbride
Kill v Cootehill - Cootehill
Drumalee v Crosserlough - Drumalee

John Brady Insurances Ltd A.C.F.L. Division 3 Round 4
Templeport v Ballymachugh - Draw
Corlough v Butlersbridge - Buttlersbridge
Cornafean v Shannon Gaels - Cornafean
Laragh Utd v Swanlinbar - Larah
Bailieboro v Kildallon - Bailieboro
Arva v Munterconnacht -Arva
Killygarry v Mountnugent - Killygarry
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Bongo on April 03, 2009, 07:01:35 PM
Anywhere online that I would be able to see the league tables?

I mean the club league in cavan..... (Actually I wouldn't mind having a look at the NFL tables too?)

cavan.gaa.com is meant to have current tables up, but it seems like that site hasn't been updated in a while.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on April 03, 2009, 10:14:58 PM
Quote from: RednBlack on April 03, 2009, 07:55:10 PM
Quote from: Bongo on April 03, 2009, 07:01:35 PM
Anywhere online that I would be able to see the league tables?

I mean the club league in cavan..... (Actually I wouldn't mind having a look at the NFL tables too?)

cavan.gaa.com is meant to have current tables up, but it seems like that site hasn't been updated in a while.

www.killygarry.com (http://www.killygarry.com) for up to date league tables


Your site only has 3 division tables 1,3 & 6 but its 3 more than the county homepage which is a joke. Have a look at sligos in comparison...

http://www.sligogaa.ie/
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Bongo on April 04, 2009, 07:03:04 PM
That's a great website yis have there RednBlack. It's a dread that I had to look there to see the championship draw for my own club, Bailieboro.
All the clubs should get their fingers out and have something like that.... and as for the county website... enough said!! :-X

I see we got Drumgoon, Drung and Ballymachugh in the c'ship.... It wont be easy.... The lads seem to have gotten a good start in Division 3. Hopefully that will do the confidence the world of good. Are Gerry Sheridan, Jimmy Clarke & Flash toggin out this year? I heard Coleman quit again and Donnellan is away again. Hopefully the young lads won't get carried away with a wee run of form.... it is Div3 after all, big step up to Intermediate Champ, although in fairness we've held our own in that comp over the last few years. Thought we were unlucky to drop to Div 3 anyway.

Anyway hopefully 2009 will bring some small bit of sucess back to the shamrocks, we badly need it.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on April 04, 2009, 07:35:24 PM
Quote from: RednBlack on April 04, 2009, 06:09:20 PM
Belturbet 2-07 Killygarry 2-11

Castlerahan Cavan Gaels off

Isn't it just great the way the throw-in time for a game is changed? That game was down for 5:30 in the celt and I arrive two hours late for it. Sure only the players and the boys need to know.

>:(

Why was the other game off?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on April 04, 2009, 07:57:20 PM
Fair play to ya bongo a few Shamrocks lads on board now, mind you some of us are long retired and in exile. I think it's long gone time Gerry, Lambo, Flash etc were given an honourable discharge. Like a lot of clubs probably a few fellas stayed around too long and the long term effects aren't great. On the topic of websites the Shamrocks website was great craic up to about two years ago when it folded, I know POD was probably fairly involved as well as, I think, young Halton, But sure like GAA clubs themselves you are relying on the efforts of a small few, who are often taken for granted, to deliver on these things.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Babe Ruth 47 on April 05, 2009, 01:31:08 AM
How did 'Ted' aka Andy Ried do today RednBlack. Was he on Jayo? Did Jayo score much/at all.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on April 05, 2009, 01:00:18 PM
Quote from: Babe Ruth 47 on April 05, 2009, 01:31:08 AM
How did 'Ted' aka Andy Ried do today RednBlack. Was he on Jayo? Did Jayo score much/at all.



Is there something going on between yourself and this lad ?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on April 05, 2009, 01:10:06 PM
I assume he calls him Andy Reid as he's been left out in the cold even though he appears to have the makings of a county man.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on April 05, 2009, 03:41:17 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on April 05, 2009, 01:10:06 PM
I assume he calls him Andy Reid as he's been left out in the cold even though he appears to have the makings of a county man.

Is he not a she?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on April 05, 2009, 05:04:30 PM
Ballyhaise 0-10 Cavan Gaels B 1-13

we were awful, Gaels youngsters
Martin Dunne,Niall Smith, and particularly Robert Maloney Derham at midfield and Kevin Meehan at wing back were terrific.
We are understrength at the moment
Missing 6 definite starters come championship, in Michael Rooney,Colm Reily,Sean Mac,Fergal Slowey,Ray and Ali Pickett.
At this moment in time we just arent strong enough.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on April 05, 2009, 05:27:58 PM
We beat Kill by 7 points, Drumgoon were beaten by 4, Kingscourt beat Drung and Drumlane won by a point
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on April 05, 2009, 05:38:54 PM
Drumgoon beaten by Killeshandra suprised me a bit,but in reality i shouldnt be,Killeshandra have some terrific young talent in their club
Drumlane winning up in Knockbride is a definite suprise.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on April 05, 2009, 05:48:23 PM
Dont know how we are going to manage to avoid relegationg.  0 from 4 and the Gaels next weekend without County players. >:(
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on April 05, 2009, 05:52:56 PM
Quote from: cavan4ever on April 05, 2009, 05:48:23 PM
Dont know how we are going to manage to avoid relegationg.  0 from 4 and the Gaels next weekend without County players. >:(

i would say you would be alright.

id imagine you will pick up more points than Kill and Crosserlough B team over the 13 games.

Think we can kiss promotion goodbye after today,
Pick up a few more wins,get a bit up the table and concentrate on the championship.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on April 05, 2009, 06:03:15 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on April 05, 2009, 05:52:56 PM
Quote from: cavan4ever on April 05, 2009, 05:48:23 PM
Dont know how we are going to manage to avoid relegationg.  0 from 4 and the Gaels next weekend without County players. >:(

i would say you would be alright.

id imagine you will pick up more points than Kill and Crosserlough B team over the 13 games.

Think we can kiss promotion goodbye after today,
Pick up a few more wins,get a bit up the table and concentrate on the championship.
Hope you right wont be any easy games though.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on April 05, 2009, 07:21:58 PM
Drumalee won by a point. Deserved to win nothing but a wins a win. Bit suprised by Ballyhaise result. Many of the Seniors make an appearance? Just heard Nelligan came on. I wouldnt rule promotion out just yet BH Man, Id say it will be very tight in Div 2 this year with about 4-5 teams in contention most of the way.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on April 05, 2009, 09:04:46 PM
Quote from: boojangles on April 05, 2009, 07:21:58 PM
Drumalee won by a point. Deserved to win nothing but a wins a win. Bit suprised by Ballyhaise result. Many of the Seniors make an appearance? Just heard Nelligan came on. I wouldnt rule promotion out just yet BH Man, Id say it will be very tight in Div 2 this year with about 4-5 teams in contention most of the way.

Dominic Reily and Cormac Nelligan came on.

Their team
was
1.Paddy O Keefe
2.Paddy Heslin
3.John Reily
4.Joe Dunne
5.Kevin Meehan
6.(cant remember)
7.Christopher Quinn
8.Ed O Hanlon
9.Robert Maloney Derham
10.Alan O Riordan
11.Tommy McCormack
12.Niall Smith
13.Conor McClarey
14.Levi Murphy
15.Martin Dunne


Declan Meehan
Cormac Nelligan
Domninic Reily
some other small red haired lad were the subs
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on April 07, 2009, 03:11:33 PM
Ballinagh were well beaten by Gowna at the weekend. Final score something like 3-09 to 0.09. Ballinagh were missing a fair few players but even bearing that in mind it was a very performance. McCabe and Pierson played well and kicked almost all their scores. McKeever was fairly anonymous for much of the game bar a few nice runs.

I don't think too many of the Ballinagh boys are expected back from injury before the Castlerahen game next week so wouldn't rate our chances too highly.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on April 07, 2009, 05:43:45 PM
Results from weekend and how my predictions went
Divsion 1
Catlerahan OFF Cavan Gaels       
Belturbet 2-07  Killygarry 2-11            wrong
Ramor 2-08 Crosserlough 1-06            right
Gowna 3-09 Ballinagh 0-09                wrong
Lavey 2-13 Cuchullains 0-09               wrong
Redhills 1-07 Mullahoran 1-12             right
Lacken 2-09 Denn 1-08                     right

Division 2
Drumgoon 1-06 Killeshandra 1-10       wrong
B'Haise 0-10 Cavan Gaels B  1-13       wrong
Drung 1-09  Kingscourt 2-13             Right
Shercock 0-05 Killinkere 1-14            wrong
Knockbride 1-10 Drumlane 2-08        wrong
Kill 0-09 Cootehill 2-13                      Right
Drumalee 1-10 Crosserlough B 2-06     Right

Division 3
Templeport 1-07  Ballymachugh  0-11   wrong
Corlough 0-05 B'Bridge 1-14                Right
Cornafean 1-10 S Gaels 1-08                wrong
Laragh 2-11 Swad 0-14                        Right
Baileborough 0-11 Kildallan 1-06             Right
Arva 2-10 M'Connacht 0-8                     Wrong
Killygarry 0-09 Mountnugent 1-06           Wrong

9/20,
my predictions are going about aswell as Ballyhaise are  :(                   

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Babe Ruth 47 on April 07, 2009, 06:00:25 PM
Catlerahan OFF Cavan Gaels       
Belturbet 2-07  Killygarry 2-11           o
Ramor 2-08 Crosserlough 1-06         x
Gowna 3-09 Ballinagh 0-09                x
Lavey 2-13 Cuchullains 0-09              x
Redhills 1-07 Mullahoran 1-12             o
Lacken 2-09 Denn 1-08                    0

Division 2
Drumgoon 1-06 Killeshandra 1-10      x
B'Haise 0-10 Cavan Gaels B  1-13       x
Drung 1-09  Kingscourt 2-13             o
Shercock 0-05 Killinkere 1-14            x
Knockbride 1-10 Drumlane 2-08       x
Kill 0-09 Cootehill 2-13                     o
Drumalee 1-10 Crosserlough B 2-06     o

Division 3
Templeport 1-07  Ballymachugh  0-11   x
Corlough 0-05 B'Bridge 1-14             o
Cornafean 1-10 S Gaels 1-08                o
Laragh 2-11 Swad 0-14                       o
Baileborough 0-11 Kildallan 1-06             o
Arva 2-10 M'Connacht 0-8                     o
Killygarry 0-09 Mountnugent 1-06           x


11/20 - More mid table mediocrity
Looks like junior football is my speciality
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on April 07, 2009, 08:42:35 PM
Quote from: Homer on April 07, 2009, 03:11:33 PM
Ballinagh were well beaten by Gowna at the weekend. Final score something like 3-09 to 0.09. Ballinagh were missing a fair few players but even bearing that in mind it was a very performance. McCabe and Pierson played well and kicked almost all their scores. McKeever was fairly anonymous for much of the game bar a few nice runs.

I don't think too many of the Ballinagh boys are expected back from injury before the Castlerahen game next week so wouldn't rate our chances too highly.

I heard McKeever wasn't too anonymous inside & outside the Imperial Sunday night ;)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on April 07, 2009, 10:05:43 PM
Quote from: Lawrence of Knockbride on April 07, 2009, 08:42:35 PM
Quote from: Homer on April 07, 2009, 03:11:33 PM
Ballinagh were well beaten by Gowna at the weekend. Final score something like 3-09 to 0.09. Ballinagh were missing a fair few players but even bearing that in mind it was a very performance. McCabe and Pierson played well and kicked almost all their scores. McKeever was fairly anonymous for much of the game bar a few nice runs.

I don't think too many of the Ballinagh boys are expected back from injury before the Castlerahen game next week so wouldn't rate our chances too highly.

I heard McKeever wasn't too anonymous inside & outside the Imperial Sunday night ;)

No need for that Lawrence thats his own business and nobody elses.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on April 07, 2009, 10:22:16 PM
Quote from: cavan4ever on April 07, 2009, 10:05:43 PM
Quote from: Lawrence of Knockbride on April 07, 2009, 08:42:35 PM
Quote from: Homer on April 07, 2009, 03:11:33 PM
Ballinagh were well beaten by Gowna at the weekend. Final score something like 3-09 to 0.09. Ballinagh were missing a fair few players but even bearing that in mind it was a very performance. McCabe and Pierson played well and kicked almost all their scores. McKeever was fairly anonymous for much of the game bar a few nice runs.

I don't think too many of the Ballinagh boys are expected back from injury before the Castlerahen game next week so wouldn't rate our chances too highly.

I heard McKeever wasn't too anonymous inside & outside the Imperial Sunday night ;)

No need for that Lawrence thats his own business and nobody elses.
Aren't we so righteous. The wink of the eye was meant to read as a tongue in cheek comment. Funny, there was plenty to be said about the same player rolling around the ground outside the very same establishment a few months back and it seemed to all our business. Nevertheless, I apologise if anyone was offended, especially you C4E.
:D ;D ;)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: the salmon of knowledge on April 07, 2009, 10:25:34 PM
i was in tullyvin the other night c4e and asked a local (while buying 1 of your blottos) how was phil monaghan and he told me he was coming back from an operation, ye must be fairly hampered with injury up there what about b watters? is the lad fit of what??
heard ye got a new manager any truth in that??
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on April 08, 2009, 08:09:53 AM
Quote from: Lawrence of Knockbride on April 07, 2009, 10:22:16 PM
Quote from: cavan4ever on April 07, 2009, 10:05:43 PM
Quote from: Lawrence of Knockbride on April 07, 2009, 08:42:35 PM
Quote from: Homer on April 07, 2009, 03:11:33 PM
Ballinagh were well beaten by Gowna at the weekend. Final score something like 3-09 to 0.09. Ballinagh were missing a fair few players but even bearing that in mind it was a very performance. McCabe and Pierson played well and kicked almost all their scores. McKeever was fairly anonymous for much of the game bar a few nice runs.

I don't think too many of the Ballinagh boys are expected back from injury before the Castlerahen game next week so wouldn't rate our chances too highly.

I heard McKeever wasn't too anonymous inside & outside the Imperial Sunday night ;)

No need for that Lawrence thats his own business and nobody elses.
Aren't we so righteous. The wink of the eye was meant to read as a tongue in cheek comment. Funny, there was plenty to be said about the same player rolling around the ground outside the very same establishment a few months back and it seemed to all our business. Nevertheless, I apologise if anyone was offended, especially you C4E.
:D ;D ;)


Apology accepted   :D

I think club players should be left alone and not have their private lives spouted about on here  ;)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on April 08, 2009, 08:20:06 AM
Quote from: the salmon of knowledge on April 07, 2009, 10:25:34 PM
i was in tullyvin the other night c4e and asked a local (while buying 1 of your blottos) how was phil monaghan and he told me he was coming back from an operation, ye must be fairly hampered with injury up there what about b watters? is the lad fit of what??
heard ye got a new manager any truth in that??

It bad at the moment Salmon.  We havent had near a full team for any game yet.  Between injuries, stag parties and games where we cant play county players we are getting it hard to get 15 decent players on the field. 

Ronan Crowe, Philly Monahan, Ciarain Galligan and Alan Curran were missing against Kingscourt. Aidan McCaul has gone AWOL and Karl O'Rourke is just back last two weeks.   Barry Watters isnt well at the moment and probably should forget about playing this year for his own good.  He played last week but wasnt at the races.

Same manager is still there but i dont think he should be myself but where would you get a manger at this stage to take over a struggling team.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4sam on April 08, 2009, 12:21:15 PM
I see Tommy Carr has given the captaincy to Ronan Flanagan for the coming year. Another great achievement for the young man. Hopefully he will manage to stay injury free for the year and keep playing as well as we all know he can. Might not be a good thing for us tho.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on April 08, 2009, 12:36:25 PM
Quote from: cavan4sam on April 08, 2009, 12:21:15 PM
I see Tommy Carr has given the captaincy to Ronan Flanagan for the coming year. Another great achievement for the young man. Hopefully he will manage to stay injury free for the year and keep playing as well as we all know he can. Might not be a good thing for us tho.

Tommy Carr has made a right choice here i think, Flanagan would be one of my fav Cavan players.  Why might it not be good for Castlerahan C4S?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4sam on April 08, 2009, 12:52:43 PM
The lad already puts so much effort into the county that I'm afraid we wont get to see the best of him. He is an unbelievable player and I just hope that he doesn't burn out.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on April 08, 2009, 01:18:43 PM
Fantastic achievement for Ronan and his club and Im sure his father will be delighted. I think thats a great move because I dont think we have many more dedicated footballers than Ronan Flanagan. He is one player who has always kept his feet on the ground and has kept on improving, he never shouts or bitches at other players and just gets on with the game. For a 21 year old its a great achievement and Im sure he will go on to better things.
On another note about the County- we seem to have a fair spread of clubs on this thread from Senior, Intermediate and Junior.Has anybody spotted any prospective County players in any of the league games they have witnessed so far? we all know Eoin Smith of Killygarry deserves a call,anybody else?
Or any word on this Junior set-up? Is Terry Hyland in charge? who are his selectors?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on April 08, 2009, 01:30:50 PM
Quote from: boojangles on April 08, 2009, 01:18:43 PM
Fantastic achievement for Ronan and his club and Im sure his father will be delighted. I think thats a great move because I dont think we have many more dedicated footballers than Ronan Flanagan. He is one player who has always kept his feet on the ground and has kept on improving, he never shouts or bitches at other players and just gets on with the game. For a 21 year old its a great achievement and Im sure he will go on to better things.
On another note about the County- we seem to have a fair spread of clubs on this thread from Senior, Intermediate and Junior.Has anybody spotted any prospective County players in any of the league games they have witnessed so far? we all know Eoin Smith of Killygarry deserves a call,anybody else?
Or any word on this Junior set-up? Is Terry Hyland in charge? who are his selectors?
I'll get the ball rolling, if I may, Boojangles. I've seen (all division 2 coincidentally) Gaels (B), Cootehill, Killeshandra,Drumgoon & Drumalee. It's easy to pick out players that stand out but whether they'd make the county at this stage is hard to call.
Killeshandra have a few that I think could do with getting in around the scene over the next year or too namely Tomas O'Reilly & Damien Higgins. Higgins is incredibly conisistent while O'Reilly has a lot to learn but serious raw talent

I thought Gaffney for your own club is a lovely striker of the ball but he's been in before I think?

Colm Smith played great against the Gaels second team but then I don't think he played against Killeshandra. Did I hear he's away Celt man. Also, where is Colm Hannon these days as I don't think he's lining out for Drumgoon.

Other than that, nobody else is pushing from the few I've seen.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: offthebeatentrack on April 08, 2009, 02:17:02 PM
Hi board, am new here and it seems a good discussion place relating to the football scene. Fair play to Ronan Flangan on becoming captain. I'm sure he'll do a great job. On that note what do you think are our chances on Sunday? For me, anytime I thought they should win they lost and vice versa so its hard to call. I think if they play to their potential they can certaintly win it.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on April 08, 2009, 04:49:38 PM
Quote from: Lawrence of Knockbride on April 08, 2009, 01:30:50 PM
Quote from: boojangles on April 08, 2009, 01:18:43 PM
Fantastic achievement for Ronan and his club and Im sure his father will be delighted. I think thats a great move because I dont think we have many more dedicated footballers than Ronan Flanagan. He is one player who has always kept his feet on the ground and has kept on improving, he never shouts or bitches at other players and just gets on with the game. For a 21 year old its a great achievement and Im sure he will go on to better things.
On another note about the County- we seem to have a fair spread of clubs on this thread from Senior, Intermediate and Junior.Has anybody spotted any prospective County players in any of the league games they have witnessed so far? we all know Eoin Smith of Killygarry deserves a call,anybody else?
Or any word on this Junior set-up? Is Terry Hyland in charge? who are his selectors?
I'll get the ball rolling, if I may, Boojangles. I've seen (all division 2 coincidentally) Gaels (B), Cootehill, Killeshandra,Drumgoon & Drumalee. It's easy to pick out players that stand out but whether they'd make the county at this stage is hard to call.
Killeshandra have a few that I think could do with getting in around the scene over the next year or too namely Tomas O'Reilly & Damien Higgins. Higgins is incredibly conisistent while O'Reilly has a lot to learn but serious raw talent

I thought Gaffney for your own club is a lovely striker of the ball but he's been in before I think?
Colm Smith played great against the Gaels second team but then I don't think he played against Killeshandra. Did I hear he's away Celt man. Also, where is Colm Hannon these days as I don't think he's lining out for Drumgoon.

Other than that, nobody else is pushing from the few I've seen.
Gaffney was never in before, he was asked in this year and declined.He is very hard to motivate and is very laid back.Unreal talent and strength when he wants to use it but no real get up and go in him.he would be the best full-forward in the county IMO if he was bothered,but thats the problem. Do ya mind me asking what game ya saw Drumalee Lawrence?
Was impressed with Tomas Reilly but he still is very raw.He would need working on but I heard he did very well for U-21s when he came on.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4sam on April 08, 2009, 05:17:08 PM
Was this last nights training session?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: the salmon of knowledge on April 08, 2009, 06:14:13 PM
regarding givney red and black, in fairness he needed a few lads round him to get stuck in. not defending him blindly, but we got ate out of it for not putting bodies on the line for 50 50 balls. a critism that was deserved. greaney had a good game tho. talking to him after and he is only back from chickenpox, disappointing result for us though
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on April 08, 2009, 06:44:53 PM
Quote from: boojangles on April 08, 2009, 04:49:38 PM
Quote from: Lawrence of Knockbride on April 08, 2009, 01:30:50 PM
Quote from: boojangles on April 08, 2009, 01:18:43 PM
Fantastic achievement for Ronan and his club and Im sure his father will be delighted. I think thats a great move because I dont think we have many more dedicated footballers than Ronan Flanagan. He is one player who has always kept his feet on the ground and has kept on improving, he never shouts or bitches at other players and just gets on with the game. For a 21 year old its a great achievement and Im sure he will go on to better things.
On another note about the County- we seem to have a fair spread of clubs on this thread from Senior, Intermediate and Junior.Has anybody spotted any prospective County players in any of the league games they have witnessed so far? we all know Eoin Smith of Killygarry deserves a call,anybody else?
Or any word on this Junior set-up? Is Terry Hyland in charge? who are his selectors?
I'll get the ball rolling, if I may, Boojangles. I've seen (all division 2 coincidentally) Gaels (B), Cootehill, Killeshandra,Drumgoon & Drumalee. It's easy to pick out players that stand out but whether they'd make the county at this stage is hard to call.
Killeshandra have a few that I think could do with getting in around the scene over the next year or too namely Tomas O'Reilly & Damien Higgins. Higgins is incredibly conisistent while O'Reilly has a lot to learn but serious raw talent

I thought Gaffney for your own club is a lovely striker of the ball but he's been in before I think?
Colm Smith played great against the Gaels second team but then I don't think he played against Killeshandra. Did I hear he's away Celt man. Also, where is Colm Hannon these days as I don't think he's lining out for Drumgoon.

Other than that, nobody else is pushing from the few I've seen.
Gaffney was never in before, he was asked in this year and declined.He is very hard to motivate and is very laid back.Unreal talent and strength when he wants to use it but no real get up and go in him.he would be the best full-forward in the county IMO if he was bothered,but thats the problem. Do ya mind me asking what game ya saw Drumalee Lawrence?
Was impressed with Tomas Reilly but he still is very raw.He would need working on but I heard he did very well for U-21s when he came on.
Dunno why I thought Gaffney was in. Was he with the U-21s? Saw ye up in Templeport a couple of weeks ago when your full-back broke his arm.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on April 08, 2009, 08:10:41 PM
Quote from: Lawrence of Knockbride on April 08, 2009, 01:30:50 PM
Quote from: boojangles on April 08, 2009, 01:18:43 PM
Fantastic achievement for Ronan and his club and Im sure his father will be delighted. I think thats a great move because I dont think we have many more dedicated footballers than Ronan Flanagan. He is one player who has always kept his feet on the ground and has kept on improving, he never shouts or bitches at other players and just gets on with the game. For a 21 year old its a great achievement and Im sure he will go on to better things.
On another note about the County- we seem to have a fair spread of clubs on this thread from Senior, Intermediate and Junior.Has anybody spotted any prospective County players in any of the league games they have witnessed so far? we all know Eoin Smith of Killygarry deserves a call,anybody else?
Or any word on this Junior set-up? Is Terry Hyland in charge? who are his selectors?
I'll get the ball rolling, if I may, Boojangles. I've seen (all division 2 coincidentally) Gaels (B), Cootehill, Killeshandra,Drumgoon & Drumalee. It's easy to pick out players that stand out but whether they'd make the county at this stage is hard to call.
Killeshandra have a few that I think could do with getting in around the scene over the next year or too namely Tomas O'Reilly & Damien Higgins. Higgins is incredibly conisistent while O'Reilly has a lot to learn but serious raw talent

I thought Gaffney for your own club is a lovely striker of the ball but he's been in before I think?

Colm Smith played great against the Gaels second team but then I don't think he played against Killeshandra. Did I hear he's away Celt man. Also, where is Colm Hannon these days as I don't think he's lining out for Drumgoon.

Other than that, nobody else is pushing from the few I've seen.

Yea Colm is away in college in Manchester for the next couple of years unfortunately but should have him back for the summer.
Colm Hannon is retired I believe, injuries eventually caught up with him
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on April 08, 2009, 08:34:18 PM
Big loss for ye Celt Man, although not based on your result at the weekend.
Hannon has retired? Very young, no?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on April 08, 2009, 09:39:32 PM
Aye he is a big loss but things have been going fairly well this year.  Still he would be a serious addition at any stage of the year

Yea I believe he was and still is bad with injuries, think he has had enough and can;t continue....
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on April 08, 2009, 10:28:45 PM
ALright lads, got away on a wee holiday for a couple of days, encase anyone was worried where I have been :D Hope i still have a job now!!!!

From what i am told, Eoin Smith trained with the county team last night, as did Sean Maguire, Tomas Reilly, Declan MckIernan kevin Brady and John Tierney. Think they were just in to play apart in a practice game. Think they are all part of the current Cavan junior panel - dont think they are actually part of the senior panel yet anyway.

Apparently Ted done very well at FB in shocking conditions.

Also saw DCU win the All Ireland freshers today over UCC - Niall McDermott was class. Oisin Minnagh was very good as well
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on April 08, 2009, 10:30:17 PM
4 out of 4 for the Shamrocks by the way :D :D

Have not been able to say that in a while

Big test against Swad at the weekend!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on April 08, 2009, 10:37:12 PM
Witnessing Division THree footbal I dont have too many suggestion with regards ti players being good enough for the County.

From my own club I am amazed Declan Reilly has not been given a chance with at least the Junior Team. Paddy Byrd has talent as well but perhaps not the temperment!

I think Gearoid McKiernan has serious potential, and  I would like to hear who is playing well for Kingscourt these days?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on April 09, 2009, 12:33:56 PM
Quote from: put-it-up on April 08, 2009, 10:28:45 PM
Also saw DCU win the All Ireland freshers today over UCC - Niall McDermott was class. Oisin Minnagh was very good as well

Delighted for the two lads, especially Niall.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Babe Ruth 47 on April 09, 2009, 12:44:01 PM
Looking at the league tables there. Drumgoon have made a woeful start to the year. Only 2 point from 4 games and promotion nearly ruled out already. Just goes to show how hard it is to bounce back to senior after being relegated. Didn't they loose out on the last day a least twice?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on April 09, 2009, 12:52:39 PM
Quote from: Babe Ruth 47 on April 09, 2009, 12:44:01 PM
Looking at the league tables there. Drumgoon have made a woeful start to the year. Only 2 point from 4 games and promotion nearly ruled out already. Just goes to show how hard it is to bounce back to senior after being relegated. Didn't they loose out on the last day a least twice?

Yea I seemed to remember we had something to do with that both times actually!! ;D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: jimjim on April 09, 2009, 01:00:22 PM
Just thought I would give it another go :D
See how I get on??

Imperial Bar A.C.F.L. Division 1 Round 5
Denn v Gowna - Gowna
Ballinagh v Castlerahan  - Balinagh
Cavan Gaels v Lavey  - Gaels
Cuchulainns v Belturbet – Cuchulainns
Killygarry v Ramor Utd - Draw
Crosserlough v Redhills - Croesserlough
Mullahoran v Lacken - Mullahorn

Cathal Brady Audi A.C.F.L. Division 2 Round 5
Cootehill v Drumalee - Draw
Crosserlough v Drumgoon - Drumgoon
Killeshandra v Ballyhaise - Ballyhaise
Cavan Gaels v Drung - Gaels
Kingscourt v Shercock - Kingscourt
Killinkere v Knockbride - Knockbride
Drumlane v Kill - Drumlane


John Brady Insurances Ltd A.C.F.L. Division 3 Round 5
Munterconnacht v Templeport - Draw
Ballymachugh v Corlough - Ballymachugh
Butlersbridge v Cornafean - Draw
Shannon Gaels v Laragh Utd - Laragh
Swanlinbar v Bailieboro - Baileboro
Kildallon v Killygarry - Kildallon
Mountnugent v Arva - ~Arva

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on April 09, 2009, 01:07:47 PM
what time are saturdays games at?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4sam on April 09, 2009, 01:23:32 PM
I know our game is at 6 anyway.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on April 09, 2009, 02:26:26 PM
Saturday, 11th April 2009 @ 5.30pm

Imperial Bar A.C.F.L. Division 1 Round 5
Denn v Gowna (Game at 3.30pm)
Referee: Thomas Doonan
Ballinagh v Castlerahan (Game in Castlerahan at 6pm)
Referee: Martin Sexton
Cavan Gaels v Lavey (Game at 2pm)
Referee: Darren Ward
Cuchulainns v Belturbet
Referee: Sean Smith
Killygarry v Ramor Utd (Game at 3pm)
Referee: Martin Brady - Lacken
Crosserlough v Redhills (Game at 5pm)
Referee: M G Brady
Mullahoran v Lacken
Referee: Jim Hyland

Saturday, 11th April 2009 @ 5.30pm

Cathal Brady Audi A.C.F.L. Division 2 Round 5
Cootehill v Drumalee
Referee: Gerry Sheridan
Crosserlough v Drumgoon (Game at 2.30pm)
Referee: Ollie Henry
Killeshandra v Ballyhaise (Game in Lacken)
Referee: Oliver O'Reilly
Cavan Gaels v Drung
Referee: Donal Reilly
Kingscourt v Shercock (Game at 4pm)
Referee: Padraig Kelleher
Killinkere v Knockbride
Referee: Jimmy Galligan - Lacken
Drumlane v Kill
Referee: Chris McCaffrey

Saturday, 11th April 2009 @ 5.30pm

John Brady Insurances Ltd A.C.F.L. Division 3 Round 5
Munterconnacht v Templeport
Referee: Seamus O'Connnor
Ballymachugh v Corlough
Referee: Raymond Tynan
Butlersbridge v Cornafean
Referee: Patrick Brady
Shannon Gaels v Laragh Utd
Referee: Brian Seagrave
Swanlinbar v Bailieboro
Referee: John Emmo
Kildallon v Killygarry (Game at 6.30pm)
Referee: Martin Brady - Ballinagh
Mountnugent v Arva
Referee: Raymond Kelly

Saturday, 11th April 2009 @ 5pm

Cavan Waste Disposal Ltd A.C.F.L Division 4 Round 5
Denn v Gowna
Referee: Thomas Doonan
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on April 10, 2009, 08:01:27 AM
Pierson scored 2-3 for Gowna last weekend so you'd imagine he's back on the panel again unless there has been a falling out.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Superstar on April 10, 2009, 08:15:57 AM
Sorry to hijack youre thread lads, but here goes:

Hi there folks,

With the championship just around the corner, from now on in you will see various fantasy football competitions springing up, myself and a few other memebrs of our club have taken it upon ourselves to run a competition of our own as a fundraiser. Hopefully we will get alot of interest in it, weve kept the entry fee reasonably low, its a pretty straight forward competition, all the rules, scoring chart, and player lists ect can be found on our website, so why not have a nosey at it. I hope when you are deciding upon which of the competitions available to enter you will give us a thought, we may not have a flashy website with all the graphics, but in entering this competition, you will be supporting one of youre very own clubs. If you have any queries about the competition you can email me at clannnabanna@hotmail.co.uk

To view the competition just log on to clannnabanna.down.gaa.ie and click on the competitions link

Many thanks, i hope we can look forward to youre support.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on April 10, 2009, 10:31:36 AM
Quote from: RednBlack on April 09, 2009, 11:44:16 PM
Any news on team for Sunday - heard Dunne at full back, Gunner centre half with Podge outside him, Walsh in middle and Martin Reilly back in. Haven't heard if Pierson is back? Anyone hear anything else?

Galligan is out.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on April 10, 2009, 01:26:10 PM
Galligan is out. Martin Reilly and Mackey are back. Cullivan is fit also. Dermot Sheridan is struggling with injury.

McCabe will probably come in for Galligan, or if he is not ready then it will be Walsh.

Think Eddie will lose out and I think Pierson could be ready - probably just from the bench though.

Have a slight feeling Brides will start
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on April 10, 2009, 02:06:45 PM
It is round five of this year's ACFL this Saturday, with every team in action.

With the county team out on Sunday against Louth in Drogheda, county players will be unavailable for club duty. This will have a big effect on team's such as reigning champions Cavan Gaels, who will have to survive without the services of Mickey Lyng, Seanie Johnston and Nicholas Walsh.

Gowna, too will be badly effected, with former All-Star Dermot McCabe and ace forward Ger Pierson expected to feature in Cavan's final league fixture. Their absence will give struggling Denn a huge confidence boost.

In Division Two, the meeting of Killeshandra and Ballyhaise should be an interesting one, while there will be no love lost between Killinkere and Knockbride.

Table-toppers Bailieborough Shamrocks make the lengthy trip to Swanlinbar in Division 3. That fixture will be the one to watch, with Swanlinbar needing a win to keep their promotion hopes alive.

Imperial Bar A.C.F.L. Division 1 Round 5

Denn v Gowna - Denn are really struggling and badly need a win. With McCabe and Pierson missing they might just get it.

Ballinagh v Castlerahan - Home side have been poor this year, but to overcome Castlerahan who are without Mackey, Flanagan and Brady.

Cavan Gaels v Lavey - Gaels to once again show their strength in depth.

Cuchulainns v Belturbet – Cuchulainns in a rotten run of form and can't see them getting out of it.

Killygarry v Ramor Utd - It's gonna be a tight one. The fact Ramor have nobody on the county panel, they might nick a win.

Crosserlough v Redhills - Saw Croesserlough last week and they were brutal. Unless they improve, Redhills will get back to winning ways.

Mullahoran v Lacken - Mullahoran to kick on from last week's victory over Redhills.

Cathal Brady Audi A.C.F.L. Division 2 Round 5
Cootehill v Drumalee - Draw

Crosserlough v Drumgoon - Drumgoon to outclass Crosserlough's second string

Killeshandra v Ballyhaise - Ballyhaise missing a lot of important players. Killeshandra will get the job done.

Cavan Gaels v Drung - Mmmm. Going to go with Gaels - though there panel will be stretched considering both games are on the same day.

Kingscourt v Shercock - Kingscourt will blow Shercock away. My favourites for promotion.

Killinkere v Knockbride - Killinkere got a morale boosting victory last weekend but Knockbride will wipe the smiles from their faces.

Drumlane v Kill - Drumlane. Kill are really struggling in this Division and look out of their league.

John Brady Insurances Ltd A.C.F.L. Division 3 Round 5
Munterconnacht v Templeport - Draw

Ballymachugh v Corlough - Ballymachugh to condemn Corlough to another defeat.

Butlersbridge v Cornafean - Cornafaen going well at the minute and they might just shade the Bridge
Shannon Gaels v Laragh Utd - Another close one. Laragh have a long trip and I think Shannon Gaels will stop their unbeaten run in Blacklion.

Swanlinbar v Bailieboro - I am worried for the Shamrocks. Swad will be up for this one after losing two on the spin. Heart over rules head though - Bailieborough
Kildallon v Killygarry - Kildallon to bounce back from last week's defeat in emphatic style.
Mountnugent v Arva - ~M'Nugent playing shocking stuff at the minute. Arva
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on April 10, 2009, 02:19:19 PM
Quote from: put-it-up on April 10, 2009, 02:06:45 PM
Ballinagh v Castlerahan - Home side have been poor this year, but to overcome Castlerahan who are without Mackey, Flanagan and Brady.

Bear in mind that Ballinagh have to forfeit home advantage so this game will take place in Ballyduff.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on April 10, 2009, 02:44:43 PM
http://www.hoganstand.com/Cavan/ArticleForm.aspx?ID=109931

Carr given Wee boost
10 April 2009

Cavan boss Tommy Carr has been dealt a major boost ahead of this Sunday's NFL meeting with Louth, with the news that attacker Gerald Pierson will be available for the trip to Drogheda.

The Gowna clubman missed out on the majority of the Breffni County's Division Three campaign through a long injury-lay-off but looks set play some part against Eamonn McEneaney's team this weekend. His return should help provide Carr's side with the goal-scoring touch they've lacked throughout the entire NFL this year, with their last goal coming from Pierson in the McKenna Cup against Armagh.

"We're not sure if we're going to be picking him (Pierson) straight from the off, but we'd like to be springing him into action at some stage of the game," said the Cavan boss.

Other returnees for the trip to the Wee County include defender Michael Hannon and forward players Cian Mackey and Ray Cullivan, who have both recovered from the mumps.

The only absentee for the Breffni men looks to be half-back Johnny Crowe, who is expected to be out for a number of weeks after pulling ankle ligaments while playing for his club Crosserlough.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Babe Ruth 47 on April 10, 2009, 03:29:34 PM
I'll give it another rattle

Imperial Bar A.C.F.L. Division 1 Round 5

Denn v Gowna - Denn
Ballinagh v Castlerahan  - Balinagh
Cavan Gaels v Lavey  - Cavan Gaels
Cuchulainns v Belturbet – Cuchulainns
Killygarry v Ramor Utd - Killygarry
Crosserlough v Redhills - Redhills
Mullahoran v Lacken - Mullahoran

Cathal Brady Audi A.C.F.L. Division 2 Round 5
Cootehill v Drumalee - Cootehill
Crosserlough v Drumgoon - Drumgoon
Killeshandra v Ballyhaise -Killeshandra
Cavan Gaels v Drung - Drung
Kingscourt v Shercock - Kingscourt
Killinkere v Knockbride - Knockbride
Drumlane v Kill - Drumlane


John Brady Insurances Ltd A.C.F.L. Division 3 Round 5
Munterconnacht v Templeport -Munrirconnaught
Ballymachugh v Corlough - Ballymachugh
Butlersbridge v Cornafean - Bridge
Shannon Gaels v Laragh Utd - Laragh
Swanlinbar v Bailieboro - Baileboro
Kildallon v Killygarry - Killygarry
Mountnugent v Arva - Arva
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on April 10, 2009, 03:38:20 PM

Imperial Bar A.C.F.L. Division 1 Round 5

Denn v Gowna - Gowna
Ballinagh v Castlerahan  - Castlerahan
Cavan Gaels v Lavey  - Cavan Gaels
Cuchulainns v Belturbet – Belturbet
Killygarry v Ramor Utd - Killygarry
Crosserlough v Redhills - Redhills
Mullahoran v Lacken - Mullahoran

Cathal Brady Audi A.C.F.L. Division 2 Round 5
Cootehill v Drumalee - Drumalee
Crosserlough v Drumgoon - Drumgoon
Killeshandra v Ballyhaise -draw
Cavan Gaels v Drung - Cavan Gaels
Kingscourt v Shercock - Kingscourt
Killinkere v Knockbride - Knockbride
Drumlane v Kill - Drumlane


John Brady Insurances Ltd A.C.F.L. Division 3 Round 5
Munterconnacht v Templeport -Muntirconnaught
Ballymachugh v Corlough - Ballymachugh
Butlersbridge v Cornafean - B'Bridge
Shannon Gaels v Laragh Utd - Laragh
Swanlinbar v Bailieboro - Baileboro
Kildallon v Killygarry - KIldallon
Mountnugent v Arva - Mountnugent
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on April 10, 2009, 04:12:53 PM
Sure if everyone else is doing it why shouldn't I....

Imperial Bar A.C.F.L. Division 1 Round 5

Denn v Gowna - Gowna to continue after last week's win
Ballinagh v Castlerahan  - I reckon Ballinagh will sneak this one even away from home
Cavan Gaels v Lavey  - CG cant look past them
Cuchulainns v Belturbet – really not too sure, going for a draw
Killygarry v Ramor Utd - Ramor to win this one
Crosserlough v Redhills - I think Redhills might have too much for Clough
Mullahoran v Lacken - Lacken to sneak this one county men a big loss for Mullahorn

Cathal Brady Audi A.C.F.L. Division 2 Round 5
Cootehill v Drumalee - Not gonna open my mouth, not gonna put the B L I N K on it either way
Crosserlough v Drumgoon - You'd have to expect goonies to win but Clough have come close against ourselves and drumalee last week so I'm gonna say Draw
Killeshandra v Ballyhaise - think killeshandra will continue to impress and win by couple of points
Cavan Gaels v Drung - Drung have to start getting points on the board and I'm backing them to start this wkend, drung to win
Kingscourt v Shercock - Have to say Kingscourt but they will only do it by 2 points or so, shercock will improve from last week
Killinkere v Knockbride - Knockbride by 4 or 5
Drumlane v Kill - Can't look past Drumlane, Kill aren't great


John Brady Insurances Ltd A.C.F.L. Division 3 Round 5
Munterconnacht v Templeport - Not sure at all, both teams have been going well enough - draw
Ballymachugh v Corlough - Ballymachugh by 3 or more
Butlersbridge v Cornafean - Bridge but it'll be close
Shannon Gaels v Laragh Utd - Another tough away game for Laragh but fancy them to come through by couple of points
Swanlinbar v Bailieboro - this is gonna be tight, I think Swad will grab both points here, they will gutted after throwing away a huge lead away to laragh last week
Kildallon v Killygarry -  home win by a few points
Mountnugent v Arva - Mountnugent to struggle without the big man, so Arva by a few points
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Drung on April 10, 2009, 06:44:29 PM
Denn v Gowna - Draw
Ballinagh v Castlerahan  - Ballinagh
Cavan Gaels v Lavey  - Gaels
Cuchulainns v Belturbet – A lot depends on if Jason plays. If he does, Belturbet. If not... still Belturbet but by less!
Killygarry v Ramor Utd - Ramor
Crosserlough v Redhills - Redhills
Mullahoran v Lacken - OFF I think

Cathal Brady Audi A.C.F.L. Division 2 Round 5
Cootehill v Drumalee - draw
Crosserlough v Drumgoon - Drumgoon
Killeshandra v Ballyhaise - Ballyhaise
Cavan Gaels v Drung - Gaels all the way I'm afraid
Kingscourt v Shercock - Kingscourt
Killinkere v Knockbride - Killinkere
Drumlane v Kill - Drumlane


John Brady Insurances Ltd A.C.F.L. Division 3 Round 5
Munterconnacht v Templeport - Munchies
Ballymachugh v Corlough - Ballymachugh
Butlersbridge v Cornafean - Cornafean. Wouldn't rule out a draw
Shannon Gaels v Laragh Utd - Laragh
Swanlinbar v Bailieboro - Bailieboro
Kildallon v Killygarry -  Killygarry
Mountnugent v Arva - Mountnugent, without Givney, are still better than Arva
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on April 11, 2009, 07:25:15 PM
Drung beat Gaels by a goal.

Gaels beat lavey by 8 points.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on April 11, 2009, 07:50:10 PM
Think I heard that Redhills beat Crosserlough and that Ballyhaise & Killeshandra drew. Strange enough the Killygarry game being called off half way through. Don't remember that ever happening before.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on April 11, 2009, 09:16:38 PM
Heard Kingscourt won by 12 or so. Knockbride by 3, Kill beat Drumlane by 2. And I don't want to talk about our game
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on April 12, 2009, 09:25:39 AM
Quote from: Celt_Man on April 11, 2009, 09:16:38 PM
Heard Kingscourt won by 12 or so. Knockbride by 3, Kill beat Drumlane by 2. And I don't want to talk about our game
Did yourself & Boojangles fall out? ;D
Kingscourt are flying and what happened Drumlane?
Homer, your crowd seem to be in trouble?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on April 12, 2009, 10:24:36 AM
Heard a few stores about Redhills game best one was they were down by 5 with 3 minutes to go and got 2-1 in last few minutes.  Hope they get whats coming to them soon getting very hard to listen to some of them lads  :-X . There on some run though.

Cant believe Kill beat Drumlane.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Babe Ruth 47 on April 12, 2009, 12:21:43 PM
Shannon Gaels beat Laragh
Kildallon beat Killygarry
Ballymachugh beat Corlough
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on April 12, 2009, 06:38:20 PM
well another defeat, im off out for a few ,but some of our exiles,Maniac/Myles etc might not have been at the game,so here it goes.

Cavan 2-13 Louth 2-16

Cavan played some good football at times, but once again some serious weaknesses have been exploited by Louth,
The Full back line was at sea,too loose marking their men, i was scared shitless, everytime the ball went in high, Louth could have had 3 more goals.
Midfield without Galligan was seriously done for pace,
And we still havent figured out how to play against a crowded defense.
Shooting was terrible in the first half

1.Fintan Reily, Terrific save in the first half, kickouts were good,Solid game and couldnt do anything for either goal. 7

2.Michael Brides, ive always been a fan of Brides robust style of play,but he was seriously roasted by Colm Judge today, just hasnt the speed anymore. 5

3.Rory Dunne, good on the ball,but hes not the answer at full back, was pushed around by Shane Lennon,Will start come the championship but not at full back. 6

4.Michael Hannon, Worst game ive ever seen H play,Darren Clarke scored something like 1-5, 1-6 most of it from play.There has to be a problem with fitness or injuries there because Hannon has kept much better players than clarke quiet. 5

5.John McCutcheon, got on an obscene amount of ball, yellow carded when he cleaned one of the louth men out of it, done ok, certain strarter for me come the championship. 7

6.Gunner, gave away the first point,but was fairly steady thereafter,Best option we have for Centre Half. 7

7.Podge, i thought this was podges best performance for a long time in a Cavan shirt, finished well for the goal, drove forward at pace,
His lack of acceleration wasnt exploited on the wing.
Dont know if you can afford himself and Rory Dunne due to their lack of pace. 7

8.Nicholas Walsh,put himself about, got on alot of ball,made a good catch or two,competed well ine the air,
But he was taken to the cleaners by Paddy Keenan on the ground, Keenan must have scored 3 or 4 from play, Replaced by McCabe. 6

9.Lorcan Mulvey, replaced after 20 minutes by Eugene Keating, He found Ronan Carroll's pace hard to stay with, But he was perhaps unfortunate to be taken off. 6

10.Ray Cullivan,Ray done some good stuff, won good ball and good passes but he also done stupid things,like try and bull through 2 and 3 players at a time, and kicked some poor wides Fairly solid performance. 7

11.Michael Lyng, Still searching for his big performance after his injuries, He was solid,sprayed alot of ball around and was always an option for a pass,But again like Ray missed some bad wides. 7

12.Ronan Flanagan, Rony's worst performance in a Cavan shirt in my opinion,He didnt exert himself into the game like he usually does,and didnt impact the game. 5

13.Larry Reily, Larry had few wild shots, and was replaced after about  25 minutes by Martin Reily, perhaps unfair,

14.Seanie Johnston,he was virtually assaulted throughout the whole game today, and got nothing from the tool of a referee, also done some stupid things,but also kicked some great scores,Another day and another referee, hed have had about 5 or 6 more frees. 7

15.Eddie Reily, He was poor in the first half,but terrific in the second half, kicked 2 great points from play,chased harried everything,taken off near the end. 7

subs
McCabe on for Walsh
Keating for Mulvey--- kicked a good score, but was lethargic in the most his man,number 7 done a serious amount of damage.
Martin Reily----- decent enough performance, didnt impact the game as much as we know he can.
Pierson, came on near the end, as a replacement for the carded McCutcheon
Givney replaced Eddie,didnt see much ball.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on April 12, 2009, 08:16:38 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on April 12, 2009, 06:38:20 PM
well another defeat, im off out for a few ,but some of our exiles,Maniac/Myles etc might not have been at the game,so here it goes.

Cavan 2-13 Louth 2-16

Cavan played some good football at times, but once again some serious weaknesses have been exploited by Louth,
The Full back line was at sea,too loose marking their men, i was scared shitless, everytime the ball went in high, Louth could have had 3 more goals.
Midfield without Galligan was seriously done for pace,
And we still havent figured out how to play against a crowded defense.
Shooting was terrible in the first half

1.Fintan Reily, Terrific save in the first half, kickouts were good,Solid game and couldnt do anything for either goal. 7

2.Michael Brides, ive always been a fan of Brides robust style of play,but he was seriously roasted by Colm Judge today, just hasnt the speed anymore. 5

3.Rory Dunne, good on the ball,but hes not the answer at full back, was pushed around by Shane Lennon,Will start come the championship but not at full back. 6

4.Michael Hannon, Worst game ive ever seen H play,Darren Clarke scored something like 1-5, 1-6 most of it from play.There has to be a problem with fitness or injuries there because Hannon has kept much better players than clarke quiet. 5

5.John McCutcheon, got on an obscene amount of ball, yellow carded when he cleaned one of the louth men out of it, done ok, certain strarter for me come the championship. 7

6.Gunner, gave away the first point,but was fairly steady thereafter,Best option we have for Centre Half. 7

7.Podge, i thought this was podges best performance for a long time in a Cavan shirt, finished well for the goal, drove forward at pace,
His lack of acceleration wasnt exploited on the wing.
Dont know if you can afford himself and Rory Dunne due to their lack of pace. 7

8.Nicholas Walsh,put himself about, got on alot of ball,made a good catch or two,competed well ine the air,
But he was taken to the cleaners by Paddy Keenan on the ground, Keenan must have scored 3 or 4 from play, Replaced by McCabe. 6

9.Lorcan Mulvey, replaced after 20 minutes by Eugene Keating, He found Ronan Carroll's pace hard to stay with, But he was perhaps unfortunate to be taken off. 6

10.Ray Cullivan,Ray done some good stuff, won good ball and good passes but he also done stupid things,like try and bull through 2 and 3 players at a time, and kicked some poor wides Fairly solid performance. 7

11.Michael Lyng, Still searching for his big performance after his injuries, He was solid,sprayed alot of ball around and was always an option for a pass,But again like Ray missed some bad wides. 7

12.Ronan Flanagan, Rony's worst performance in a Cavan shirt in my opinion,He didnt exert himself into the game like he usually does,and didnt impact the game. 5

13.Larry Reily, Larry had few wild shots, and was replaced after about  25 minutes by Martin Reily, perhaps unfair,

14.Seanie Johnston,he was virtually assaulted throughout the whole game today, and got nothing from the tool of a referee, also done some stupid things,but also kicked some great scores,Another day and another referee, hed have had about 5 or 6 more frees. 7

15.Eddie Reily, He was poor in the first half,but terrific in the second half, kicked 2 great points from play,chased harried everything,taken off near the end. 7

subs
McCabe on for Walsh
Keating for Mulvey--- kicked a good score, but was lethargic in the most his man,number 7 done a serious amount of damage.
Martin Reily----- decent enough performance, didnt impact the game as much as we know he can.
Pierson, came on near the end, as a replacement for the carded McCutcheon
Givney replaced Eddie,didnt see much ball.


Almost not arsed to argue with you BH man but............
.....................Agree, Dunne good footballer - not a FB
I thought Lyng was poor.
I thought Keating carried the ball well for us.
Podge looked good going forward.
Their two wing-backs did most of the damage coming forward so think you're a little harsh on Hannon although he is off the pace of things.
Johnson is the Ronaldo of Cavan football. Anyone who likes Ronaldo will like him. Anyone with sense won't. He can't stand to attention for a minute silence or the National Anthem, tying his laces and talking to the lads. He's been in the papers talking about how the players attitudes need to be right for every game  :D He was fouled all day I agree and he also kicked some nice scores but every foul he gave away he had something to say, he pushed his player in retaliation on more than one occasion causing the ball to be brought forward. To be honest I'm sick looking at him and if he decided that his ever-so complicated life needed him to go to Australia or wherever then I'd be glad to see the back of him. Now easy on the abuse lads, i'm at the end of a long league campaign. ;)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on April 12, 2009, 09:10:53 PM
anyone know why miller was not in goals?who was the sub keeper then, did elliott come in?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on April 12, 2009, 09:41:27 PM
Quote from: Lawrence of Knockbride on April 12, 2009, 08:16:38 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on April 12, 2009, 06:38:20 PM
well another defeat, im off out for a few ,but some of our exiles,Maniac/Myles etc might not have been at the game,so here it goes.

Cavan 2-13 Louth 2-16

Cavan played some good football at times, but once again some serious weaknesses have been exploited by Louth,
The Full back line was at sea,too loose marking their men, i was scared shitless, everytime the ball went in high, Louth could have had 3 more goals.
Midfield without Galligan was seriously done for pace,
And we still havent figured out how to play against a crowded defense.
Shooting was terrible in the first half

1.Fintan Reily, Terrific save in the first half, kickouts were good,Solid game and couldnt do anything for either goal. 7

2.Michael Brides, ive always been a fan of Brides robust style of play,but he was seriously roasted by Colm Judge today, just hasnt the speed anymore. 5

3.Rory Dunne, good on the ball,but hes not the answer at full back, was pushed around by Shane Lennon,Will start come the championship but not at full back. 6

4.Michael Hannon, Worst game ive ever seen H play,Darren Clarke scored something like 1-5, 1-6 most of it from play.There has to be a problem with fitness or injuries there because Hannon has kept much better players than clarke quiet. 5

5.John McCutcheon, got on an obscene amount of ball, yellow carded when he cleaned one of the louth men out of it, done ok, certain strarter for me come the championship. 7

6.Gunner, gave away the first point,but was fairly steady thereafter,Best option we have for Centre Half. 7

7.Podge, i thought this was podges best performance for a long time in a Cavan shirt, finished well for the goal, drove forward at pace,
His lack of acceleration wasnt exploited on the wing.
Dont know if you can afford himself and Rory Dunne due to their lack of pace. 7

8.Nicholas Walsh,put himself about, got on alot of ball,made a good catch or two,competed well ine the air,
But he was taken to the cleaners by Paddy Keenan on the ground, Keenan must have scored 3 or 4 from play, Replaced by McCabe. 6

9.Lorcan Mulvey, replaced after 20 minutes by Eugene Keating, He found Ronan Carroll's pace hard to stay with, But he was perhaps unfortunate to be taken off. 6

10.Ray Cullivan,Ray done some good stuff, won good ball and good passes but he also done stupid things,like try and bull through 2 and 3 players at a time, and kicked some poor wides Fairly solid performance. 7

11.Michael Lyng, Still searching for his big performance after his injuries, He was solid,sprayed alot of ball around and was always an option for a pass,But again like Ray missed some bad wides. 7

12.Ronan Flanagan, Rony's worst performance in a Cavan shirt in my opinion,He didnt exert himself into the game like he usually does,and didnt impact the game. 5

13.Larry Reily, Larry had few wild shots, and was replaced after about  25 minutes by Martin Reily, perhaps unfair,

14.Seanie Johnston,he was virtually assaulted throughout the whole game today, and got nothing from the tool of a referee, also done some stupid things,but also kicked some great scores,Another day and another referee, hed have had about 5 or 6 more frees. 7

15.Eddie Reily, He was poor in the first half,but terrific in the second half, kicked 2 great points from play,chased harried everything,taken off near the end. 7

subs
McCabe on for Walsh
Keating for Mulvey--- kicked a good score, but was lethargic in the most his man,number 7 done a serious amount of damage.
Martin Reily----- decent enough performance, didnt impact the game as much as we know he can.
Pierson, came on near the end, as a replacement for the carded McCutcheon
Givney replaced Eddie,didnt see much ball.


Almost not arsed to argue with you BH man but............
.....................Agree, Dunne good footballer - not a FB
I thought Lyng was poor.
I thought Keating carried the ball well for us.
Podge looked good going forward.
Their two wing-backs did most of the damage coming forward so think you're a little harsh on Hannon although he is off the pace of things.
Johnson is the Ronaldo of Cavan football. Anyone who likes Ronaldo will like him. Anyone with sense won't. He can't stand to attention for a minute silence or the National Anthem, tying his laces and talking to the lads. He's been in the papers talking about how the players attitudes need to be right for every game  :D He was fouled all day I agree and he also kicked some nice scores but every foul he gave away he had something to say, he pushed his player in retaliation on more than one occasion causing the ball to be brought forward. To be honest I'm sick looking at him and if he decided that his ever-so complicated life needed him to go to Australia or wherever then I'd be glad to see the back of him. Now easy on the abuse lads, i'm at the end of a long league campaign. ;)

Keating did carry the ball well,but his man ran him into the ground, They eventually had to switch Flanagan onto him,
That should never have to happen a forward IMO. Really a mixture of good and bad from him.
Im a big fan of Michael Hannon, at his best,hes one of the best in Ulster in my opinion,but hes not playing up to his usual level.
Agree with yourself and RednBlack
Johnston has been at it the whole year, hes always been loud on the field,But this year has been staggering
He gave Keating an awful moutful aswell,when he gave the ball away,disgusting stuff
Thats not what a young lad who has bags of talent needs to be hearing,the same as Martin Reily,they need encouragement.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on April 12, 2009, 09:51:08 PM
Fintan Reily of redhills was the goalkeeper,Put it up.

Rednblack asks a good question, where are we at this stage in Carrs regime?

There has been some good signs and good football played,But we have serious weaknesses going forward,and if we can see them,IC managers can see them aswell.
Eoin Smith was on the bench today,I think he should have been brought on when the full back line was struggling,and to give him game time at this level.
The Importance of Galligan was obvious today,
Mulvey,Walsh,McCabe just cannot cover the ground with the more mobile midfielders at this level,
Ray is in my opinion an inch or two too small for IC midfield.
We need a targetman at full forward, either, Givney,McCabe,Cullivan or an other,whom we can kick first time ball into, because at the moment most of our play is slow and laboured we have no ideas when the opposition crowd out their backline.

Id be optimistic about Carrs regime, i lost the plot with him after the Tipp game,but ive seen glimpses of our potential in different games, and while it might not be saying much,We are going alot better than last year.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on April 12, 2009, 10:35:16 PM
An exile i might be but I made this match. I'm going to start with Johnstone and you know I hope he reads this board. I was disgusted when during the minutes silence he couldn't even stand to attention beside his own team and instead took the opportunity to tie his laces and stretch the hammers. During the national Anthem he decided to walk around the huddle of Cavan players who did show respect and drink some water and then spit it out. What a little bollix. He needs to learn some respect. His attitude on the pitch was also atrocious. Any ball that went astray got a volley of abuse and Seanie standing with his hands on his hips. Not once did he tackle a back coming out. If I were Cavan manager I would drop him for a game cos clearly he thinks he is Cavan. Your not Seanie, your just a player and no more. If we to look to Eddie Reilly beside him and take a leaf out of Eddies efforts he could be one of the best in Ireland. As someone said above Gooch, Canavan and the top forwards do not behave like that. Cop on Seanie and Tommy Carr, take some action.

I thought this was a poor Cavan performance. Dunne is not aggressive nor strong enough for FB. When the Louth CHB was moved in on him it was big trouble. I thought the two corner backs were also very loose. Hannon simply stood of that Clarke lad and let him shoot with no pressure. Our midfield did well enough for maybe 3/4 of the game but got cleaned in the vital last 1/4 when they seemed to have no legs. Some don't rate Galligan but I thought that he was a big loss. I thought podge did well on the ball but was loose enough defending and the same with Gunner. McCutcheon was decent enough. I thought our half forward line made little impact. For me Lyng was poor, didn't get into the game and in the end seemed to run out of steam. We really struggle against athletic teams that get men behind the ball. We have no strength to break tackles and no target man inside. We try and thread the ball through the eye of a needle to johnstone. Normally we kick it away and the defending team breaks at pace. Then you have some lads really trying to make tackles and some standing with their hands on their hips. Cavan allowed Louth to break repeatedly and the 6 forwards did not work enough to stop it.
The masters of mass defence and athletic counter attacks Fermanagh will probably be our 1st match in the championship.
Saying this I think Carr has done a reasonable job. Hes tried different players in different roles. At the start of the year we were really worried abour midfield but we seem to have a couple of options now. FB he has not solved and it is a shame Eoin Smith was not brought in on time to give him a run. He'd be a gamble at FF for the championship. I hope he can see that we need a target man at FF or at least the option of a target man. I think Carr will need another year or two to make any real strides bit he is doing ok and learning bit by bit of the panel he has inherited.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on April 12, 2009, 10:53:39 PM
Quote from: put-it-up on April 12, 2009, 10:05:06 PM
Aye I saw Fintan was in goals, but what I was wondering was where was James? Don't tell me there has been a fall out?

Do you know who was the sub-keeper BHM? And I thought you were heading out for pints!
It's still early yet  ;D
He was on the bench, Togged out aswell.
dont know what the story was, slight injury? or maybe just giving Fintan Reily a chance.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on April 13, 2009, 12:15:49 AM
It is very strange that James wasn't in the goals. He is far better than Fintan and mans the defence much better.

Fintan is ok but not really an intercounty keeper. Hannon is playing shocking stuff at the minute - think he could do with a couple of club games under his belt.

With regards to Jelly, i noticed that bad attitude sneaking into his game. Maybe he need's to have a look at himself. Potentially he is one of the top 5 forwards in the county, but he needs to work off the ball ( which i felt he did against Roscommon) and learn to apprecaite that the other boys are bursting their B locks off to try and get the ball into him.

After our league campaign what do you think our best 15 is? Here is what I think
James
Hannon - with time
Dermot Sheridan - no other real options. Wish Eoin Smith had of got a league game or two
Brides - Is a good man marker

Flanangan - A great all round footballer but it better in defence than attack
Gunner - If we just get him to use his head and hold the middle
McCutcheon or Dunne - Tough call, both have impressed and really developed under Carr

Galligan - Not his biggest fan, but we need his effort and engine
Still not sure who will partner him. Mulvey still has to win me over but looks the best option

Mackey - will be great when he is back to full fitness
Lyng - Really liked what I saw against Roscommon. Tackled hard and always gives an option
Martin Reilly - Has not been as consistent this year, but I think highly of him

Pierson - Two years ago he was better than Jelly
Cullivan - let him have a free role. Can drifit out and leave space for the boys inside
Jelly - Get him a spoon full of cop on and kicking points over the bar

On the bench we have the likes of Podge, Larry, Jayo, Dermot, Keating, Givney and so on. Players that are actually capable of coming on and doing something. One thing that does concern me of my team, is the lack of height, but Carr will just have to get us playing to out strengths
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on April 13, 2009, 09:29:52 AM
Quote from: put-it-up on April 13, 2009, 12:15:49 AM
It is very strange that James wasn't in the goals. He is far better than Fintan and mans the defence much better.

Fintan is ok but not really an intercounty keeper. Hannon is playing shocking stuff at the minute - think he could do with a couple of club games under his belt.

With regards to Jelly, i noticed that bad attitude sneaking into his game. Maybe he need's to have a look at himself. Potentially he is one of the top 5 forwards in the county, but he needs to work off the ball ( which i felt he did against Roscommon) and learn to apprecaite that the other boys are bursting their B locks off to try and get the ball into him.

After our league campaign what do you think our best 15 is? Here is what I think
James
Hannon - with time
Dermot Sheridan - no other real options. Wish Eoin Smith had of got a league game or two
Brides - Is a good man marker

Flanangan - A great all round footballer but it better in defence than attack
Gunner - If we just get him to use his head and hold the middle
McCutcheon or Dunne - Tough call, both have impressed and really developed under Carr

Galligan - Not his biggest fan, but we need his effort and engine
Still not sure who will partner him. Mulvey still has to win me over but looks the best option

Mackey - will be great when he is back to full fitness
Lyng - Really liked what I saw against Roscommon. Tackled hard and always gives an option
Martin Reilly - Has not been as consistent this year, but I think highly of him

Pierson - Two years ago he was better than Jelly
Cullivan - let him have a free role. Can drifit out and leave space for the boys inside
Jelly - Get him a spoon full of cop on and kicking points over the bar

On the bench we have the likes of Podge, Larry, Jayo, Dermot, Keating, Givney and so on. Players that are actually capable of coming on and doing something. One thing that does concern me of my team, is the lack of height, but Carr will just have to get us playing to out strengths
I was going to post that very question before the Louth game.

I'd adjust your team as follows put-it-up:
Fanin in for Brides
Cahill in for Hannon if form doesn't pick up. I like Brides but I think Fannin has performed best at corner-back overall and Cahill has been a little hard done by.
I agree that Sheridan is the best option we've tried and I must admit that despite some efforts, I've never seen Smith play.

I'd have McCutcheon and Dunne at wing-back with Gunner in the middle. They've been solid when playing there.

Walsh to partner Galligan in the middle. Can't rely on Lorcan to do anything. Could make an impact from the bench though.

I'd have Flanagan in for Martin Reilly. He's tried hard despite Johnston's efforts but I just don't think he's good enough if we have everyone available.

I'd probably have McCabe in for Cullivan. Tough to leave him out but something has to give plus he hasn't really been tried there has he?

That leaves a bench of Fintan,Brides,Cahill,Podge,Mulvey,Cullivan,Sean Brady,Eddie,Larry,Keating,Givney and of course McKeever whenever his sabbatical is over ;)

Now if we could only get them all pulling in the one direction.....

1.James Reilly
2.Michael Hannon
3.Dermot Sheridan
4.Keith Fannin
5.John McCutcheon
6.Paul Brady
7.Rory Dunne
8.Nicholas Walsh
9.Ciaran Galligan
10.Cian Mackey
11.Micheal Lyng
12.Ronan Flanagan
13.Gerard Pierson
14.Dermot McCabe
15.Sean Johnston

Has the look of champions, no? ???
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mattockranger on April 13, 2009, 12:47:11 PM
well lads tough game yesterday

just wonder was mackay injured?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on April 13, 2009, 05:18:11 PM
Quote from: mattockranger on April 13, 2009, 12:47:11 PM
well lads tough game yesterday

just wonder was mackay injured?
He's been out for a while with the mumps I think. Rumour had it he'd back yesterday but it wasn't the case.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Babe Ruth 47 on April 13, 2009, 06:07:52 PM
I was told from an exteremly reliable source that Miller was dropped due to disiplinary reasons. Refused to do some stuff at training. Pity but I'm sure it was just a gentle reminder.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: big balla on April 13, 2009, 08:46:49 PM
Quote from: cavan4ever on April 12, 2009, 10:24:36 AM
Heard a few stores about Redhills game best one was they were down by 5 with 3 minutes to go and got 2-1 in last few minutes.  Hope they get whats coming to them soon getting very hard to listen to some of them lads  :-X . There on some run though.

Cant believe Kill beat Drumlane.

I'm a new member to the board and this is my first post. have followed the thread for the last 50 pages or so. felt i had to comment on what you said cavan4ever.
redhills have come a long way since playing division 3 league and junior championship a few years ago, they should be allowed to enjoy the succuss they're having without people saying they "get whats coming to them". they are on a fantastic run for a club of their size and its only natural that they would become more confident
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4sam on April 14, 2009, 09:23:36 AM
Quote from: Lawrence of Knockbride on April 13, 2009, 05:18:11 PM
Quote from: mattockranger on April 13, 2009, 12:47:11 PM
well lads tough game yesterday

just wonder was mackay injured?
He's been out for a while with the mumps I think. Rumour had it he'd back yesterday but it wasn't the case.

Just to update ye on Mackey, he played for us on Saturday evening but had very little energy, his illness had completely drained him, still scored a couple of points, but was only at one third of what he can do.

By the way we bet Ballinagh 2-11 to 0-7. That moves us on to 6 points from 4 games and unlucky not to have the full compliment, last minute goal v Killygarry. Denn up next for us in a local derby and they are yet to pick up a point.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on April 14, 2009, 01:41:26 PM
Quote from: big balla on April 13, 2009, 08:46:49 PM
Quote from: cavan4ever on April 12, 2009, 10:24:36 AM
Heard a few stores about Redhills game best one was they were down by 5 with 3 minutes to go and got 2-1 in last few minutes.  Hope they get whats coming to them soon getting very hard to listen to some of them lads  :-X . There on some run though.

Cant believe Kill beat Drumlane.

I'm a new member to the board and this is my first post. have followed the thread for the last 50 pages or so. felt i had to comment on what you said cavan4ever.
redhills have come a long way since playing division 3 league and junior championship a few years ago, they should be allowed to enjoy the succuss they're having without people saying they "get whats coming to them". they are on a fantastic run for a club of their size and its only natural that they would become more confident

Point taken.

So there is a good break now till the championship starts for Cavan.  Hopefully there will be plenty of challenge games to get try and get the problem positions sorted out.  What is the real story with McKeever does anyone know.  At the time Carr said he wasnt suspended from the panel , that he was just taking some time off.  He'd struggle to get on the team anyway the way he was playing.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on April 14, 2009, 01:53:22 PM
Quote from: cavan4ever on April 14, 2009, 01:41:26 PM
Quote from: big balla on April 13, 2009, 08:46:49 PM
Quote from: cavan4ever on April 12, 2009, 10:24:36 AM
Heard a few stores about Redhills game best one was they were down by 5 with 3 minutes to go and got 2-1 in last few minutes.  Hope they get whats coming to them soon getting very hard to listen to some of them lads  :-X . There on some run though.

Cant believe Kill beat Drumlane.

I'm a new member to the board and this is my first post. have followed the thread for the last 50 pages or so. felt i had to comment on what you said cavan4ever.
redhills have come a long way since playing division 3 league and junior championship a few years ago, they should be allowed to enjoy the succuss they're having without people saying they "get whats coming to them". they are on a fantastic run for a club of their size and its only natural that they would become more confident

Point taken.

So there is a good break now till the championship starts for Cavan.  Hopefully there will be plenty of challenge games to get try and get the problem positions sorted out.  What is the real story with McKeever does anyone know.  At the time Carr said he wasnt suspended from the panel , that he was just taking some time off.  He'd struggle to get on the team anyway the way he was playing.
I believe that McKeever was more than willing to go back in to the panel if he was asked.At the time he thought it would be for a month or 2.He never got the call and I believe that he is very pissed off considering every other player(and there was a few) that broke the rules that Carr had set out has since been asked back to the panel.
I think at this stage he should have been asked back in.Cavan could really do with Mark McKeever on top of his game. but I dont think he would go back in now so we'l just have to get on with it.

The club coverage continues to spread on the Cavan thread.
Big Balla any word on Paddy Gumley,he had to wait a few months on word,Did he hear anything of late?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4sam on April 14, 2009, 01:54:50 PM
from what I have been told by members of the panel, McKeever was thrown off the panel of going on the beer after the over night stay in Mayo, it was his second offence so that was why he was kicked off. Apparently his first offence was either before or after the Antrim game. I cant remember which.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on April 14, 2009, 02:14:03 PM
Quote from: cavan4sam on April 14, 2009, 01:54:50 PM
from what I have been told by members of the panel, McKeever was thrown off the panel of going on the beer after the over night stay in Mayo, it was his second offence so that was why he was kicked off. Apparently his first offence was either before or after the Antrim game. I cant remember which.
Yes thats true.It was the second offence,the first being missing the Antrim game.I suppose its 2 strikes and your gone.But he should have been told that.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on April 14, 2009, 02:23:39 PM
Quote from: Lawrence of Knockbride on April 12, 2009, 09:25:39 AM
Quote from: Celt_Man on April 11, 2009, 09:16:38 PM
Heard Kingscourt won by 12 or so. Knockbride by 3, Kill beat Drumlane by 2. And I don't want to talk about our game
Did yourself & Boojangles fall out? ;D
Kingscourt are flying and what happened Drumlane?
Homer, your crowd seem to be in trouble?

Aye things aren't great at the moment. We have had a spate of injuries and as they say there's only so many times you can go to the well. Castlerahen were fully deserved of their win but the margin flattered them a little. No real stand out performances, Mackey was pretty quiet but kicked one tremendous score at the end. As cavan4sam says it will take him a while before he's fully over a dose of the mumps.

Lavey are up next and I'd only expect another one or two of the lads to make it back in time for it so another tough tie ahead.

Was up in Drogheda on Sunday. Thought the general fitness levels of our lads was very poor and a few of them seemed to be out on their feet. Would agree with some of the previous comments made regarding Johnston's attitude, he really needs to take a good look at himself before he starts talking to newspapers. I was surprised that Eoin 'Ted' Smith wasn't thrown in at FB for a while as it looked like a FF that would be right up his street.

Quote from: boojangles on April 14, 2009, 02:14:03 PM
Quote from: cavan4sam on April 14, 2009, 01:54:50 PM
from what I have been told by members of the panel, McKeever was thrown off the panel of going on the beer after the over night stay in Mayo, it was his second offence so that was why he was kicked off. Apparently his first offence was either before or after the Antrim game. I cant remember which.
Yes thats true.It was the second offence,the first being missing the Antrim game.I suppose its 2 strikes and your gone.But he should have been told that.

I'm a fan of McKeever's but he shouldn't have to be told. To be honest he should have been out on his ear after the first incident. Having a few too many drinks the weekend before a game is one thing but not bothering to turn up for a match because you're on the beer is completely unacceptable.

Besides this I had heard that he had been invited back in but didn't return. I'm not sure how long ago this invite was made.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on April 14, 2009, 02:37:18 PM
Quote from: Lawrence of Knockbride on April 12, 2009, 09:25:39 AM
Quote from: Celt_Man on April 11, 2009, 09:16:38 PM
Heard Kingscourt won by 12 or so. Knockbride by 3, Kill beat Drumlane by 2. And I don't want to talk about our game
Did yourself & Boojangles fall out? ;D
Kingscourt are flying and what happened Drumlane?
Homer, your crowd seem to be in trouble?

No didn't fall out with anyone, but still can't get over how we didn't at least grab a draw.  We were beaten by a point but missed a peno, 35m free and a 45 and the last shot came back off the upright to - and that was all in the last 5 minutes.... Mind you we weren't great by any means...
Boojangles what did you make of it? Were you playing?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on April 14, 2009, 02:42:07 PM
Quote from: boojangles on April 14, 2009, 02:14:03 PM
Yes thats true.It was the second offence,the first being missing the Antrim game.I suppose its 2 strikes and your gone.But he should have been told that.

Every time McKeever is mentioned on this board, a story about carousing in the Imperial or general indiscipline isn't far behind in coming. A lad playing intercounty as long as he is shouldn't have to be reminded that acting the candy man before or after games would result in excommunication. He's a good footballer at his best but hasn't been playing anywhere near that in recent times, going by reports here, and frankly, I'm of the opinion that one less shitehawker on the panel no matter how good he is or was, is a healthy thing in the long run. If Carr hits the panic button and has him back for the summer it'll be a very bad move and send out a bad signal to the others that once, again, it's cart blanche for everyone to behave how they want.

Tommy's either cleaning up the scene or he's not, there can be no inbetweens and half measures and that applies to all players I hope.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on April 14, 2009, 03:05:25 PM
Quote from: cavanmaniac on April 14, 2009, 02:42:07 PM
Quote from: boojangles on April 14, 2009, 02:14:03 PM
Yes thats true.It was the second offence,the first being missing the Antrim game.I suppose its 2 strikes and your gone.But he should have been told that.

Every time McKeever is mentioned on this board, a story about carousing in the Imperial or general indiscipline isn't far behind in coming. A lad playing intercounty as long as he is shouldn't have to be reminded that acting the candy man before or after games would result in excommunication. He's a good footballer at his best but hasn't been playing anywhere near that in recent times, going by reports here, and frankly, I'm of the opinion that one less shitehawker on the panel no matter how good he is or was, is a healthy thing in the long run. If Carr hits the panic button and has him back for the summer it'll be a very bad move and send out a bad signal to the others that once, again, it's cart blanche for everyone to behave how they want.

Tommy's either cleaning up the scene or he's not, there can be no inbetweens and half measures and that applies to all players I hope.


On that point in a differnt way alot of posters are disgusted with Johnstons continual abuse of his team mates and disrespect of the National anthem should he be dropped as it seems to be having an effect on the players around him.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on April 14, 2009, 03:37:33 PM
Quote from: Homer on April 14, 2009, 02:23:39 PM
Quote from: boojangles on April 14, 2009, 02:14:03 PM
Quote from: cavan4sam on April 14, 2009, 01:54:50 PM
from what I have been told by members of the panel, McKeever was thrown off the panel of going on the beer after the over night stay in Mayo, it was his second offence so that was why he was kicked off. Apparently his first offence was either before or after the Antrim game. I cant remember which.
Yes thats true.It was the second offence,the first being missing the Antrim game.I suppose its 2 strikes and your gone.But he should have been told that.

I'm a fan of McKeever's but he shouldn't have to be told. To be honest he should have been out on his ear after the first incident. Having a few too many drinks the weekend before a game is one thing but not bothering to turn up for a match because you're on the beer is completely unacceptable.

Besides this I had heard that he had been invited back in but didn't return. I'm not sure how long ago this invite was made.
What I meant there is that if he is gone of the panel for the year he should have been told that and not leaving him hanging.Tommy Carr was dead right in putting the foot down, once everybody got the same treatment.Im 99% sure that McKeever was never asked back in after that.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on April 14, 2009, 03:44:27 PM
Quote from: Celt_Man on April 14, 2009, 02:37:18 PM
Quote from: Lawrence of Knockbride on April 12, 2009, 09:25:39 AM
Quote from: Celt_Man on April 11, 2009, 09:16:38 PM
Heard Kingscourt won by 12 or so. Knockbride by 3, Kill beat Drumlane by 2. And I don't want to talk about our game
Did yourself & Boojangles fall out? ;D
Kingscourt are flying and what happened Drumlane?
Homer, your crowd seem to be in trouble?

No didn't fall out with anyone, but still can't get over how we didn't at least grab a draw.  We were beaten by a point but missed a peno, 35m free and a 45 and the last shot came back off the upright to - and that was all in the last 5 minutes.... Mind you we weren't great by any means...
Boojangles what did you make of it? Were you playing?
Was away for the weekend Celt Man,Im still injured anyway so Im making the most of this time off, in preparation for a long summer staying in.By all accounts it was a very exciting game although low scoring.Conditions had a big bearing on it too I heard.We wer missing a few so glad some lads are starting to step up to it. What happened for your penalty? I heard there was abit of squabbling over it? Were ya playing yourself?
Div 2 is looking like its gonna be very tight again.Kingscourt are looking good but after that who knows.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on April 14, 2009, 03:58:06 PM
Quote from: cavan4ever on April 14, 2009, 03:05:25 PM
Quote from: cavanmaniac on April 14, 2009, 02:42:07 PM
Quote from: boojangles on April 14, 2009, 02:14:03 PM
Yes thats true.It was the second offence,the first being missing the Antrim game.I suppose its 2 strikes and your gone.But he should have been told that.

Every time McKeever is mentioned on this board, a story about carousing in the Imperial or general indiscipline isn't far behind in coming. A lad playing intercounty as long as he is shouldn't have to be reminded that acting the candy man before or after games would result in excommunication. He's a good footballer at his best but hasn't been playing anywhere near that in recent times, going by reports here, and frankly, I'm of the opinion that one less shitehawker on the panel no matter how good he is or was, is a healthy thing in the long run. If Carr hits the panic button and has him back for the summer it'll be a very bad move and send out a bad signal to the others that once, again, it's cart blanche for everyone to behave how they want.

Tommy's either cleaning up the scene or he's not, there can be no inbetweens and half measures and that applies to all players I hope.


On that point in a differnt way alot of posters are disgusted with Johnstons continual abuse of his team mates and disrespect of the National anthem should he be dropped as it seems to be having an effect on the players around him.

I'm of the opinion that Carr should lay down the law to Johnstone. He needs to be told that his team mates deserve respect and that he needs to stop moaning and work as hard as everyone around him. He also needs to show respect to his country and his hosts by respecting the national anthem and the minutes silence. If he still thinks he is bigger than Cavan football then maybe a stint on the side line is exactly what is needed. Fermanagh had a certain Rory Gallagher that was at the same shite and he got the boot and the team moved on and bonded better. Its up to johnstone if he wants to be part of the team or if he is just interested in representing himself. I can tell you one thing, I would not tolerate the behaviour I witnessed in Drogheda from any player no matter how good they are.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on April 14, 2009, 04:02:59 PM
Quote from: boojangles on April 14, 2009, 03:44:27 PM
Quote from: Celt_Man on April 14, 2009, 02:37:18 PM
Quote from: Lawrence of Knockbride on April 12, 2009, 09:25:39 AM
Quote from: Celt_Man on April 11, 2009, 09:16:38 PM
Heard Kingscourt won by 12 or so. Knockbride by 3, Kill beat Drumlane by 2. And I don't want to talk about our game
Did yourself & Boojangles fall out? ;D
Kingscourt are flying and what happened Drumlane?
Homer, your crowd seem to be in trouble?

No didn't fall out with anyone, but still can't get over how we didn't at least grab a draw.  We were beaten by a point but missed a peno, 35m free and a 45 and the last shot came back off the upright to - and that was all in the last 5 minutes.... Mind you we weren't great by any means...
Boojangles what did you make of it? Were you playing?
Was away for the weekend Celt Man,Im still injured anyway so Im making the most of this time off, in preparation for a long summer staying in.By all accounts it was a very exciting game although low scoring.Conditions had a big bearing on it too I heard.We wer missing a few so glad some lads are starting to step up to it. What happened for your penalty? I heard there was abit of squabbling over it? Were ya playing yourself?
Div 2 is looking like its gonna be very tight again.Kingscourt are looking good but after that who knows.

Yea my favourite ref had a bit of sorting out to do before the penalty, making sure everyone stood exactly where they were told, which meant the kicker was standing over it for about 2 whole minutes which is never ideal. Not that I'd accuse him of doing that deliberately :P
Aye I was running around for a while, it was tight going not sure I have ever played on a pitch as heavy as that before.
Yea if someone doesn't take points off Kingscourt soon, they will be hard to catch. Although think that might happen this week when they are playing Knockbride.  
We on the other hand, get to pick ourselves up for another civil encounter with our fellow parishoners Drumgoon!!! ;D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on April 14, 2009, 04:16:38 PM
Quote from: Celt_Man on April 14, 2009, 04:02:59 PM
Quote from: boojangles on April 14, 2009, 03:44:27 PM
Quote from: Celt_Man on April 14, 2009, 02:37:18 PM
Quote from: Lawrence of Knockbride on April 12, 2009, 09:25:39 AM
Quote from: Celt_Man on April 11, 2009, 09:16:38 PM
Heard Kingscourt won by 12 or so. Knockbride by 3, Kill beat Drumlane by 2. And I don't want to talk about our game
Did yourself & Boojangles fall out? ;D
Kingscourt are flying and what happened Drumlane?
Homer, your crowd seem to be in trouble?

No didn't fall out with anyone, but still can't get over how we didn't at least grab a draw.  We were beaten by a point but missed a peno, 35m free and a 45 and the last shot came back off the upright to - and that was all in the last 5 minutes.... Mind you we weren't great by any means...
Boojangles what did you make of it? Were you playing?
Was away for the weekend Celt Man,Im still injured anyway so Im making the most of this time off, in preparation for a long summer staying in.By all accounts it was a very exciting game although low scoring.Conditions had a big bearing on it too I heard.We wer missing a few so glad some lads are starting to step up to it. What happened for your penalty? I heard there was abit of squabbling over it? Were ya playing yourself?
Div 2 is looking like its gonna be very tight again.Kingscourt are looking good but after that who knows.

Yea my favourite ref had a bit of sorting out to do before the penalty, making sure everyone stood exactly where they were told, which meant the kicker was standing over it for about 2 whole minutes which is never ideal. Not that I'd accuse him of doing that deliberately :P
Aye I was running around for a while, it was tight going not sure I have ever played on a pitch as heavy as that before.
Yea if someone doesn't take points off Kingscourt soon, they will be hard to catch. Although think that might happen this week when they are playing Knockbride.  
We on the other hand, get to pick ourselves up for another civil encounter with our fellow parishoners Drumgoon!!! ;D
No offence or anything Celt Man but I have to say I really hate playing in Cootehill.The grass always seems to be long and heavy and the whole look of the place is dreary. Im sure you think nothing off it tho.
Gerry Sheridan can be very picky lately,I used to really rate him as a ref when he would explain decisions but nowadays he seems to be the Boss and thats it.
I actually heard that there was a few of your lads fighting over who was taking the penalty but maybe I picked it up wrong??
We have Kill away next which can be tricky.Im sure they will be buzzing after that shock win.
Yous and Drumgoon,Im sure there will be fireworks.Yous are going for a treble of League wins are yas?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: big balla on April 14, 2009, 04:55:50 PM
Quote from: boojangles on April 14, 2009, 01:53:22 PM
Quote from: cavan4ever on April 14, 2009, 01:41:26 PM
Quote from: big balla on April 13, 2009, 08:46:49 PM
Quote from: cavan4ever on April 12, 2009, 10:24:36 AM
Heard a few stores about Redhills game best one was they were down by 5 with 3 minutes to go and got 2-1 in last few minutes.  Hope they get whats coming to them soon getting very hard to listen to some of them lads  :-X . There on some run though.

Cant believe Kill beat Drumlane.

I'm a new member to the board and this is my first post. have followed the thread for the last 50 pages or so. felt i had to comment on what you said cavan4ever.
redhills have come a long way since playing division 3 league and junior championship a few years ago, they should be allowed to enjoy the succuss they're having without people saying they "get whats coming to them". they are on a fantastic run for a club of their size and its only natural that they would become more confident

Point taken.

So there is a good break now till the championship starts for Cavan.  Hopefully there will be plenty of challenge games to get try and get the problem positions sorted out.  What is the real story with McKeever does anyone know.  At the time Carr said he wasnt suspended from the panel , that he was just taking some time off.  He'd struggle to get on the team anyway the way he was playing.
I believe that McKeever was more than willing to go back in to the panel if he was asked.At the time he thought it would be for a month or 2.He never got the call and I believe that he is very pissed off considering every other player(and there was a few) that broke the rules that Carr had set out has since been asked back to the panel.
I think at this stage he should have been asked back in.Cavan could really do with Mark McKeever on top of his game. but I dont think he would go back in now so we'l just have to get on with it.

The club coverage continues to spread on the Cavan thread.
Big Balla any word on Paddy Gumley,he had to wait a few months on word,Did he hear anything of late?



I'm working away from home at the minute and i'm not sure wht the story is with Gumley, I think he was told he'd have to wait three months to find out but i dont think the time is up yet.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on April 14, 2009, 05:19:40 PM
Quote from: boojangles on April 14, 2009, 04:16:38 PM
No offence or anything Celt Man but I have to say I really hate playing in Cootehill.The grass always seems to be long and heavy and the whole look of the place is dreary. Im sure you think nothing off it tho.
Gerry Sheridan can be very picky lately,I used to really rate him as a ref when he would explain decisions but nowadays he seems to be the Boss and thats it.
I actually heard that there was a few of your lads fighting over who was taking the penalty but maybe I picked it up wrong??
We have Kill away next which can be tricky.Im sure they will be buzzing after that shock win.
Yous and Drumgoon,Im sure there will be fireworks.Yous are going for a treble of League wins are yas?

Sure we'll try and cut the grass the next day for ya. ;D But I agree with you so far as to say the ground could do with a bit of spring cleaning or something to that effect.
Kill are a tough nut to crack at home, their pitch is very narrow and they are, obviously enough, well used to play on that narrow of a pitch.
Gerry has turned out to be a real see you next tuesday at times.  He did our league game against drumgoon last year and is alleged to have said a few things to them about ourselves during the game that a neutral ref shouldn't have said.
Aye going for three league wins in a row is right... taking nothing for granted nor have I any right to do otherwise but we need the win if we want to continue the move towards the top
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Babe Ruth 47 on April 15, 2009, 04:04:30 AM
Quick Question Lads

Is it available anywhere, or would it be possible to briefly compile, a list of the management teams for each individual club throughout the county????   

Cheers Lads
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on April 15, 2009, 08:28:51 AM
Quote from: Babe Ruth 47 on April 15, 2009, 04:04:30 AM
Quick Question Lads

Is it available anywhere, or would it be possible to briefly compile, a list of the management teams for each individual club throughout the county????  

Cheers Lads
I think someone posted an incomplete list here before the start of this season.
Now try to get some sleep. ::)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on April 15, 2009, 08:49:42 AM
Here is the article/list


Quote from: KingOfSeptember on January 06, 2009, 10:05:59 AM
From anglocelt.ie
Article published just before Christmas I think.

THE GAA close season has seen plenty of action behind the scenes as clubs look to secure managers for the 2009 season.
The cult of the "have whistle, will travel" outside manager continues to grow in popularity, with the majority of the 40 clubs in the county opting for managers from outside their own members and, in many cases, from outside the county.
Most Cavan clubs will have new men at the helm in 2009, while a number, including county champions Cavan Gaels, have yet to confirm a manager.
Beaten Intermediate finalists Ballyhaise landed a coup by securing the services of the highly-rated Mickey Graham, the county minor coach, while Lacken Celtic will be managed by former Leitrim manager Declan Rowley.
Their neighbours Ballinagh, who have enjoyed considerable success in recent years under Bernard Morris, will be managed by the experienced John Mulvaney of Ramor, while Morris himself returns to home club Gowna, where he will take on a selector's role.
Junior and Intermediate champions Drung and Redhills are holding on to their managers (Joe Fitzpatrick and Mickey Cadden respectively) for the new season.
Kingscourt also retain their outgoing manager, Meath native Dudley Farrell.

Movers and Shakers

Arva
2008: Sean Pierson 2009: Lacken clubman Gabriel Keogan takes the reins.
Bailieborough
2008: Vincent Kelly 2009: Francis Clarke, who was selector last year under Kelly, will take over as manager.
Ballinagh
2008: Bernard Morris 2009: Former Ramor United manager and Cavan defender John Mulvaney.
Ballyhaise
2008: Gerry O'Rourke 2009: Mickey Graham will be combining the Ballyhaise role with his duties as county minor manager
Ballymachugh
2008: Malachy Flanagan 2009: Flanagan has gone back to play with his club Killoe in Longford so the club are in the process of selecting a new manager.
Belturbet
2008: Mark Lawlor 2009: The club are in the process of looking for a new manager and should have someone in place by the time of the AGM on January 7.
Butlersbridge
2008: Brendan Nelligan 2009: Former Cavan senior selector and Drumlane and Ballyhaise manager Phelim Plunkett returns to the club.
Castlerahan
2008: Sean Fitzpatrick 2009: No manager has been appointed yet, although it has been rumoured that this ambitious club approached no less a figure than Crossmaglen manager Donal Murtagh.
Cavan Gaels
2008: Mick O'Dowd 2009: No change at the moment following another successful year. The club will examine it over the close season.
Cootehill Celtic
2008: Kevin Caraher 2009: Reports suggest that Monaghan native Caraher is staying on, although this has not been confirmed. Caraher met the players before the AGM recently.
Corlough
2008: Cathal Murphy 2009: Kinawley native Murphy is staying on.
Cornafean
2008: Ciaran Creegan 2009: Former Gowna official Gerry Cadden takes over from Leitrim native Creegan, who was in the job for three years.
Crosserlough
2008: Ollie Murphy (took over from Colm McEvoy during the season) 2009: Murphy will be manager again.
Cuchullains
2008: Fintan Cahill 2009: Cahill retains the job
Denn
2008: Kevin Mulvaney 2009: Despite rumours that Donal Keogan is to return to his home club as manager, it looks likely that, with Kevin Mulvaney having stepped aside, 2008: team trainer Gary Farrelly will take on the role of bainisteoir.
Drumalee
2008: PJ Carroll 2009: Undecided. The club elected a new chairman and vice-chairman at their recent AGM and they are in the process of looking for a new team manager.
Drumgoon
2008: Ray McCarron 2009: The club are looking for someone at present.
Drumlane
2008: Noel Marron 2009: Former Monaghan defender Marron will be staying on as manager.
Drung
2008: Joe Fitzpatrick 2009: Although it has yet to be confirmed, all of the indications are that Fitzpatrick will be staying on following a successful 2008:.
Gowna
2008: Mick McCormack 2009: Mick McCormack will continue in the manager's bib. Former Cavan player and Ballinagh manager Bernard Morris will be a selector.
Kildallan
2008: Emmet Curry 2009: The club are currently looking for a new manager after Curry opted not to stay on.
Kill
2008: Barry Crudden 2009: Having delivered the Division Three league title in 2008:, Crudden, a garda, will stay on as team manager
Killeshandra
2008: Stephen King, Tom Downes and Junior McKiernan 2009: Ciaran O'Reilly, who guided Mullahoran to the 1998 county title, has been appointed.
Kilinkere
2008: John Mulvaney 2009: Sean Finnegan takes over as manager.
Killygarry
2008: Declan Sheridan 2009: Unclear as of yet, although trainer James Lovett will not be staying on. The AGM is on January 10.
Kingscourt Stars
2008: Dudley Farrell took over from Paddy Bates midway through 2009: Farrell, a Meath selector under Colm Coyle in recent years, will remain as manager.
Knockbride
2008: Brian Comesky 2009: Comeskey is not running again and the club have yet to appoint a manager.
Lacken
2008: Joe O'Connor 2009: Former Leitrim senior manager Declan Rowley, who has enjoyed success with St Mel's College in Longford, is the new manager.
Laragh United
2008: George Crowe 2009: Crowe is seeking a second term but nothing will be ratified until the AGM on January 3.
Lavey
2008:; Terry Hyland 2009:.
The experienced Hyland will remain as Lavey manager.
Maghera
2008: Paul O'Dowd 2009: A final decision on the new manager will be taken after a meeting of the players.
Mountnugent
2008: John Lynch, Martin O'Reilly 2009: Sean Fitzpatrick of Castlerahan takes over as manager.
Mullahoran
2008: Pascal Canavan 2009: Tyrone legend Canavan was re-appointed at the AGM last month.
Munterconnaught
2008: Jim Gilsenan 2009: Gerry Hanly, a Galway man who managed the club to the junior final a number of years ago, returns.
Ramor United
2008: PJ Buckley 2009: The same management team has been ratified by the club executive.
Redhills
2008: Mickey Cadden 2009: Donagh, Co Fermanagh native Cadden will stay at the helm as the club enter senior ranks.
Shannon Gaels
2008: Tom Reilly 2009: The club's minor manager Eugene Walsh has stepped up to take over the senior team. Reilly will continue as club chairman.
Shercock
2008: Raymond Reilly, Liam Duffy, John Coyle 2009: The club AGM was postponed due to a death recently and nothing will be decided until after Christmas. Last year's management team are  in the running for the role again, along with a couple of others.
Swanlinbar
2008: Aodhan Murphy 2009: Murphy is staying on as manager.
Templeport
2008: Tommy Mimna 2009: Mimna, who is a Templeport clubman, is staying on as manager with Tyrone man Hugh Donnelly acting as team trainer.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on April 15, 2009, 10:48:31 AM
Quote from: Babe Ruth 47 on April 15, 2009, 04:04:30 AM
Quick Question Lads

Is it available anywhere, or would it be possible to briefly compile, a list of the management teams for each individual club throughout the county????   

Cheers Lads
Jesus there is football fanatics and there is you Babe! Couldnt sleep with this bothering ya???
Thats seems quite a comprehensive list-from whats missing -
Drumalee have former player Mickey Lee as Manager with 2 former players as selectors-JohnPat Reilly and Martin Sexton and former player Tommy Costello in charge of Div 4 side.
Gary Donohoe who used to play with Gowna is over Belturbet
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on April 15, 2009, 11:05:42 AM
Also to make a long story short, Crosserlough are now under the management of Sean 'Pilot' Lynch.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on April 15, 2009, 11:37:24 AM
Quote from: Homer on April 15, 2009, 11:05:42 AM
Also to make a long story short, Crosserlough are now under the management of Sean 'Pilot' Lynch.
Yea I heard there was all sort of comings and goings on there... need to get it sorted, we're almost at the half way point of the league and they still have no points

Oh and boojangles, ahh there wasn't any fighting over the penalty its just it wasn't immediately clear who was gonna take it thats all
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4sam on April 15, 2009, 11:38:51 AM
Castlerahan are being managed by former Meath manager Eamonn Barry.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Drung on April 15, 2009, 11:42:48 AM
Quoteacting the candy man

I give up!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on April 15, 2009, 12:08:39 PM
Quote from: Drung on April 15, 2009, 11:42:48 AM
Quoteacting the candy man

I give up!


Lents over Drung
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: handballer09 on April 15, 2009, 01:47:03 PM
Well lads.

The Irish Nationals are being held in Cavan this weekend, the Open Singles is in Kingscourt all weekend and the B Singles is in St Pat's on Saturday.

Paul Brady and Michael Finnegan are in the Open and Patrick Clerkin is in the B.

Worth checking it out, Paul and Michael are both playing Friday evening.

Here's a link to a story and a savage video clip (click the small white icon in the bottom right to make it full screen).

http://www.anglocelt.ie/articles/2/38472
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on April 15, 2009, 05:09:10 PM
Lads does anybody else not like the current format we use for our club league's?

I mean, if a team finsihed top of Division Two, should they not automatically be crowned champions? Why do they have to have a final with the second place team to see who wins the cup when they have topped the league you know?

Should second and third not play-off for promotion with the second and third bottom team from the higher Division instead?

Also think they the league should be wrapped up before championship - finishing off the season in Novemeber or December in my opinion is bullshit.

Anyone any suggestions on how to improve it's structure and competitiveness?

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on April 15, 2009, 05:35:10 PM
Quote from: put-it-up on April 15, 2009, 05:09:10 PM
Lads does anybody else not like the current format we use for our club league's?

I mean, if a team finsihed top of Division Two, should they not automatically be crowned champions? Why do they have to have a final with the second place team to see who wins the cup when they have topped the league you know?

Should second and third not play-off for promotion with the second and third bottom team from the higher Division instead?

Also think they the league should be wrapped up before championship - finishing off the season in Novemeber or December in my opinion is bullshit.

Anyone any suggestions on how to improve it's structure and competitiveness?


My Views on this would be
The Top placed team in the league should be the League Champions
Second place team should also be promoted, There should be no "League Final" .
Same in relegation
Bottom two relegated.

No need for any play off for second/third placed team,just adding unnecessary games.

I dont think its possible to have the league done with before the championship starts in June,
But its definetely possible to have the league over by Late July, Early August.
There are too many weeks during the summer when their are no games, when League games should be played.
If the county by some miracle are still involved in the Championship come late June/July,Then incase of scheduling problems clubs should have to play league games without them.
The Under 21 championship should also be started and finished between say April and June.

The last games of the year should be the Senior/Intermediate/Junior Championships finals or the Reserve Championships finals if they are played after.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on April 15, 2009, 05:37:47 PM
I'd be fairly happy with the league the way it is... it's mid way through April and after next weekend we'll have played 6 out of 13 rounds of the senior league and 2/3 games out of 12/13 of the juniors... I don't mind the top 2 playing off for silverware, I can even see the argument for the top 4 playing off but no point not top 8 for quarter finals.  I think most of the league will be 80% over by the time of the championship comes around and I'm glad there are group stages this year.  With the old way, you could get knocked out fairly quick and with the league pretty much over, you could potentially have some teams with few or none or only a couple of meaningless middle of the table league games during the summer months which would be torture.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on April 15, 2009, 06:26:23 PM
sorry but for me whoever tops the league should win.though I do understand if they wanted the second team in div2 to play say the second last in div1 to create some excitement. Also can't believe they don't get the u21s out of the way before summer. If they did that, then I would not mind the league  finishin up around October. Then everybody has November and December to rest up. Sorry if there are spellin mistakes, I'm on the iPhone.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on April 15, 2009, 06:59:22 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on April 15, 2009, 05:35:10 PM
Quote from: put-it-up on April 15, 2009, 05:09:10 PM
Lads does anybody else not like the current format we use for our club league's?

I mean, if a team finsihed top of Division Two, should they not automatically be crowned champions? Why do they have to have a final with the second place team to see who wins the cup when they have topped the league you know?

Should second and third not play-off for promotion with the second and third bottom team from the higher Division instead?

Also think they the league should be wrapped up before championship - finishing off the season in Novemeber or December in my opinion is bullshit.

Anyone any suggestions on how to improve it's structure and competitiveness?


My Views on this would be
The Top placed team in the league should be the League Champions
Second place team should also be promoted, There should be no "League Final" .
Same in relegation
Bottom two relegated.

No need for any play off for second/third placed team,just adding unnecessary games.

I dont think its possible to have the league done with before the championship starts in June,
But its definetely possible to have the league over by Late July, Early August.
There are too many weeks during the summer when their are no games, when League games should be played.
If the county by some miracle are still involved in the Championship come late June/July,Then incase of scheduling problems clubs should have to play league games without them.
The Under 21 championship should also be started and finished between say April and June.

The last games of the year should be the Senior/Intermediate/Junior Championships finals or the Reserve Championships finals if they are played after.

What he said.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: big balla on April 15, 2009, 07:56:24 PM
Quote from: Drung on April 15, 2009, 11:42:48 AM
Quoteacting the candy man

I give up!


do you kick any ball yourself drung?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Babe Ruth 47 on April 16, 2009, 03:37:09 AM
Quote from: Homer on April 15, 2009, 08:49:42 AM
Here is the article/list


Quote from: KingOfSeptember on January 06, 2009, 10:05:59 AM
From anglocelt.ie
Article published just before Christmas I think.

THE GAA close season has seen plenty of action behind the scenes as clubs look to secure managers for the 2009 season.
The cult of the "have whistle, will travel" outside manager continues to grow in popularity, with the majority of the 40 clubs in the county opting for managers from outside their own members and, in many cases, from outside the county.
Most Cavan clubs will have new men at the helm in 2009, while a number, including county champions Cavan Gaels, have yet to confirm a manager.
Beaten Intermediate finalists Ballyhaise landed a coup by securing the services of the highly-rated Mickey Graham, the county minor coach, while Lacken Celtic will be managed by former Leitrim manager Declan Rowley.
Their neighbours Ballinagh, who have enjoyed considerable success in recent years under Bernard Morris, will be managed by the experienced John Mulvaney of Ramor, while Morris himself returns to home club Gowna, where he will take on a selector's role.
Junior and Intermediate champions Drung and Redhills are holding on to their managers (Joe Fitzpatrick and Mickey Cadden respectively) for the new season.
Kingscourt also retain their outgoing manager, Meath native Dudley Farrell.

Movers and Shakers

Arva
2008: Sean Pierson 2009: Lacken clubman Gabriel Keogan takes the reins.
Bailieborough
2008: Vincent Kelly 2009: Francis Clarke, who was selector last year under Kelly, will take over as manager.
Ballinagh
2008: Bernard Morris 2009: Former Ramor United manager and Cavan defender John Mulvaney.
Ballyhaise
2008: Gerry O'Rourke 2009: Mickey Graham will be combining the Ballyhaise role with his duties as county minor manager
Ballymachugh
2008: Malachy Flanagan 2009: Flanagan has gone back to play with his club Killoe in Longford so the club are in the process of selecting a new manager.
Belturbet
2008: Mark Lawlor 2009: The club are in the process of looking for a new manager and should have someone in place by the time of the AGM on January 7.
Butlersbridge
2008: Brendan Nelligan 2009: Former Cavan senior selector and Drumlane and Ballyhaise manager Phelim Plunkett returns to the club.
Castlerahan
2008: Sean Fitzpatrick 2009: No manager has been appointed yet, although it has been rumoured that this ambitious club approached no less a figure than Crossmaglen manager Donal Murtagh.
Cavan Gaels
2008: Mick O'Dowd 2009: No change at the moment following another successful year. The club will examine it over the close season.
Cootehill Celtic
2008: Kevin Caraher 2009: Reports suggest that Monaghan native Caraher is staying on, although this has not been confirmed. Caraher met the players before the AGM recently.
Corlough
2008: Cathal Murphy 2009: Kinawley native Murphy is staying on.
Cornafean
2008: Ciaran Creegan 2009: Former Gowna official Gerry Cadden takes over from Leitrim native Creegan, who was in the job for three years.
Crosserlough
2008: Ollie Murphy (took over from Colm McEvoy during the season) 2009: Murphy will be manager again.
Cuchullains
2008: Fintan Cahill 2009: Cahill retains the job
Denn
2008: Kevin Mulvaney 2009: Despite rumours that Donal Keogan is to return to his home club as manager, it looks likely that, with Kevin Mulvaney having stepped aside, 2008: team trainer Gary Farrelly will take on the role of bainisteoir.
Drumalee
2008: PJ Carroll 2009: Undecided. The club elected a new chairman and vice-chairman at their recent AGM and they are in the process of looking for a new team manager.
Drumgoon
2008: Ray McCarron 2009: The club are looking for someone at present.
Drumlane
2008: Noel Marron 2009: Former Monaghan defender Marron will be staying on as manager.
Drung
2008: Joe Fitzpatrick 2009: Although it has yet to be confirmed, all of the indications are that Fitzpatrick will be staying on following a successful 2008:.
Gowna
2008: Mick McCormack 2009: Mick McCormack will continue in the manager's bib. Former Cavan player and Ballinagh manager Bernard Morris will be a selector.
Kildallan
2008: Emmet Curry 2009: The club are currently looking for a new manager after Curry opted not to stay on.
Kill
2008: Barry Crudden 2009: Having delivered the Division Three league title in 2008:, Crudden, a garda, will stay on as team manager
Killeshandra
2008: Stephen King, Tom Downes and Junior McKiernan 2009: Ciaran O'Reilly, who guided Mullahoran to the 1998 county title, has been appointed.
Kilinkere
2008: John Mulvaney 2009: Sean Finnegan takes over as manager.
Killygarry
2008: Declan Sheridan 2009: Unclear as of yet, although trainer James Lovett will not be staying on. The AGM is on January 10.
Kingscourt Stars
2008: Dudley Farrell took over from Paddy Bates midway through 2009: Farrell, a Meath selector under Colm Coyle in recent years, will remain as manager.
Knockbride
2008: Brian Comesky 2009: Comeskey is not running again and the club have yet to appoint a manager.
Lacken
2008: Joe O'Connor 2009: Former Leitrim senior manager Declan Rowley, who has enjoyed success with St Mel's College in Longford, is the new manager.
Laragh United
2008: George Crowe 2009: Crowe is seeking a second term but nothing will be ratified until the AGM on January 3.
Lavey
2008:; Terry Hyland 2009:.
The experienced Hyland will remain as Lavey manager.
Maghera
2008: Paul O'Dowd 2009: A final decision on the new manager will be taken after a meeting of the players.
Mountnugent
2008: John Lynch, Martin O'Reilly 2009: Sean Fitzpatrick of Castlerahan takes over as manager.
Mullahoran
2008: Pascal Canavan 2009: Tyrone legend Canavan was re-appointed at the AGM last month.
Munterconnaught
2008: Jim Gilsenan 2009: Gerry Hanly, a Galway man who managed the club to the junior final a number of years ago, returns.
Ramor United
2008: PJ Buckley 2009: The same management team has been ratified by the club executive.
Redhills
2008: Mickey Cadden 2009: Donagh, Co Fermanagh native Cadden will stay at the helm as the club enter senior ranks.
Shannon Gaels
2008: Tom Reilly 2009: The club's minor manager Eugene Walsh has stepped up to take over the senior team. Reilly will continue as club chairman.
Shercock
2008: Raymond Reilly, Liam Duffy, John Coyle 2009: The club AGM was postponed due to a death recently and nothing will be decided until after Christmas. Last year's management team are  in the running for the role again, along with a couple of others.
Swanlinbar
2008: Aodhan Murphy 2009: Murphy is staying on as manager.
Templeport
2008: Tommy Mimna 2009: Mimna, who is a Templeport clubman, is staying on as manager with Tyrone man Hugh Donnelly acting as team trainer.





Thanks for that lads. ;)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on April 16, 2009, 11:25:32 AM
I think the Senior Leagues are grand the way they are,as Celt Man said we will have 6 games played this weekend.AS long as the top 2 are promoted that is the main thing.A Final between the Top 2 is no harm as it generates revenue and at the end of the day winning a league final isnt as important as winning promotion.
I would have a problem with the way the Reserve Leagues are managed though. I havent played Reserve in years but there are alot of players who would only train for the point of playing Reserve football. Drumalee hav only played 2 reserve games so far this year.How are we supposed to keep all lads interested if they havent had a game in weeks. There seems to be a very relaxed attitude with getting these games ran off. When our reserve team is doing well it has a knock on affect on our Seniors. Numbers improve at training, some of the reserve team players are pushing for their place on the Senior team and it improves the overall standard of everybody. There is a better buzz about the place and everyone is pushing eachother on. I understand that logistically its not as easy with clubs in different divisions but 2 games so far this year isnt good enough.
I also think its a disgrace how our U-21 Championship is ran.As I have said before how are we supposed to pick our County U-21 team when we have no Championship running aroung the time the panel should be picked. U-21 football is probably the fastest grade of football you will play yet it is pushed to the end of the year to be played in bad pitches, in bad weather before bad crowds.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on April 16, 2009, 01:34:09 PM
Quote from: boojangles on April 16, 2009, 11:25:32 AM
I think the Senior Leagues are grand the way they are,as Celt Man said we will have 6 games played this weekend.AS long as the top 2 are promoted that is the main thing.A Final between the Top 2 is no harm as it generates revenue and at the end of the day winning a league final isnt as important as winning promotion.
I would have a problem with the way the Reserve Leagues are managed though. I havent played Reserve in years but there are alot of players who would only train for the point of playing Reserve football. Drumalee hav only played 2 reserve games so far this year.How are we supposed to keep all lads interested if they havent had a game in weeks. There seems to be a very relaxed attitude with getting these games ran off. When our reserve team is doing well it has a knock on affect on our Seniors. Numbers improve at training, some of the reserve team players are pushing for their place on the Senior team and it improves the overall standard of everybody. There is a better buzz about the place and everyone is pushing eachother on. I understand that logistically its not as easy with clubs in different divisions but 2 games so far this year isnt good enough.
I also think its a disgrace how our U-21 Championship is ran.As I have said before how are we supposed to pick our County U-21 team when we have no Championship running aroung the time the panel should be picked. U-21 football is probably the fastest grade of football you will play yet it is pushed to the end of the year to be played in bad pitches, in bad weather before bad crowds.
The reason that the reserve leagues are run so badly is that Gaelic Football is the most elitist sport I've ever came across. No matter what spin managers put on it, no matter if the games are on the same day against the same opposition it's always the same.
This is the level of the game I found myself at when I played and the bullshit ranged from the manager leaving after the senior game to the referee deciding to only play 20 minutes a half. And apart from the likes of Killygarry who always put out strong reserve teams, most clubs reserves will play approximately 6-7 games during the spring and early summer. Then when the championships kick in junior players might as well hang up the boots for 7-8 months as they'll be lucky to be allowed to train never mind play a game. It's always funny to look at the final league tables showing each team in division 6 having played 13 games whereas about 60% of that figure would be more accurate.
Rant on pause. >:(
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on April 16, 2009, 02:18:20 PM
Quote from: Lawrence of Knockbride on April 16, 2009, 01:34:09 PM
The reason that the reserve leagues are run so badly is that Gaelic Football is the most elitist sport I've ever came across. No matter what spin managers put on it, no matter if the games are on the same day against the same opposition it's always the same.
This is the level of the game I found myself at when I played and the bullshit ranged from the manager leaving after the senior game to the referee deciding to only play 20 minutes a half. And apart from the likes of Killygarry who always put out strong reserve teams, most clubs reserves will play approximately 6-7 games during the spring and early summer. Then when the championships kick in junior players might as well hang up the boots for 7-8 months as they'll be lucky to be allowed to train never mind play a game. It's always funny to look at the final league tables showing each team in division 6 having played 13 games whereas about 60% of that figure would be more accurate.
Rant on pause. >:(

I agree 100% with ya Lawrence, the thing about refs decided to only play 20 mins a side or something like that, just to get that annoyance of a junior game over with as quickly as possible, really gets on my nerves. 
I rememeber one year our seniors went 6/7 weeks without a game around the start of the summer because Cavan got a middling run in the chamionship that year and ok I wasn't happy but I could understand if not agree with the logical behind playing no club senior game - but why in the name of jaysus was there no junior games on?? Couldn't get my head around it.
And I think the reserve championships should be based on a groups too.  Adds to the whole competitiveness of a competition and as Boojanges said helps competitveness within a club.
I thought it was no coincidence that when Ballinagh won the intermediate title, they also won the  Junior C championship around the same time.  And also got to the Under 21 division 2 final 
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Drung on April 16, 2009, 06:22:41 PM
I don't know what the situation is now but I remember about seven or eight years ago our U16's didn't play a match for the whole of June, July and August!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on April 16, 2009, 10:15:02 PM
Quote from: RednBlack on April 16, 2009, 09:23:20 PM
Quote from: Drung on April 16, 2009, 06:22:41 PM
I don't know what the situation is now but I remember about seven or eight years ago our U16's didn't play a match for the whole of June, July and August!
when you try to arrange games for lads under 16 and down during the summer months you end up with half teams as so many are away on holidays. this year there will be a sevens tournament ran during the summer for under 14s and lots of blitz tournaments for under 12's with a new under 12 league starting in August rather than a championship. Under 16 championship happening in July to give them games with an under 16 sevens happening when they go back to school to give the guys who are not playing schools football more games.
Jaysus never heard anything about that before and I'd be involved in one of those teams... Where did you hear this? Any more information about it?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tierworker blue on April 16, 2009, 11:14:09 PM

This was in the Independent today. What think ye? Going by the games I was at last year (most of 'em) I'm surprised to see us 4th on the list to be honest. I know we're always up there as one of the best supported counties in the country (sometimes you'd wonder why, eh?!) but I thought DK's last year in charge had numbers at the lowest in years. If we're making the top 4 at this moment/standard imagine the numbers that would turn out if we even got a small glimmer of success......it would be unreal!
So if you're up there Jebus......



Fans' devotion to boys in blue confirmed by loyalty trends

Thursday April 16 2009

DUBLIN, Mayo, Monaghan and Cavan have the highest number of loyal football supporters in the country while Kilkenny, Tipperary, Limerick and Galway head the devotion list in hurling, according to receipts from league games.

The figures are based on average gates for home games in the 2008 competitions.

The returns for the 2008 Leagues also show that Division 2 yielded only €7,500 less than Division 1 in football and that between them they yielded a total of €1.52m. Divisions 3 and 4 combined brought in €387,000.

Division 1 of the NHL returned €1.1m while the three lower divisions grossed just €42,000 between them. Hurling finals out-performed football by €51,000 across the four divisions.

The highest-earning divisional games in football were Dublin v Meath (€80,545) and Dublin v Monaghan (€80,382). Both were Division 2 games but comfortably out-stripped the top two in Division 1 (Donegal v Derry, €58,610 and Galway v Mayo, €41,229). Mayo were well ahead of the rest in Division 1 but were lucky that two of their three games features clashed with 2007 All-Ireland champions, Kerry and Galway.

On the basis that supporters who attend league games are more loyal than the summer brigade who turn out for the championships only, the average home gate is a reasonable indicator of loyalty trends.

The huge population imbalances between various counties also has to be taken into account when assessing loyalty figures.

Monaghan had a solid campaign in Division 2, eventually losing out on promotion on the final day while Cavan were relegated. However, Monaghan averaged almost €34,000 in home gate receipts while Cavan reached €31,647.

That's considerably more than all of the Division 1 teams with the exception of Mayo who averaged €41,229. Cavan and Monaghan beat Tyrone, Kerry, Galway, Kildare, Donegal and Derry.

Dublin led the way nationally from Division 2, averaging €49,000 while Wexford, who were promoted, topped Division 3 on €15,498. Wicklow were the biggest home draw in Division 4, averaging €4,136 per game.

Kilkenny and Tipperary led the way in hurling, followed by Limerick, Galway and Wexford. The highest receipts at a Division 1 NHL group game was recorded at Nowlan Park where patrons paid €75,647 for the Kilkenny v Waterford clash while the lowest was €5,100 at Offaly-Clare.

The full house in Croke Park for the Dublin-Tyrone NFL game last January will give this year's figures a major boost but it now remains to be seen how much the Division 1 (Kerry v Derry) and Division 2 (Cork v Monaghan) finals will yield at Croke Park on Sunday week. It's unlikely that the crowd will exceed 25,000. However, that would be a major improvement on last year where less than 10,000 attended.

- Martin Breheny

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on April 17, 2009, 08:07:25 AM
That is good enough going because if i remember right there were only 3 home games last year, id say the Monaghan game draged us into that positon.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on April 17, 2009, 12:38:57 PM
it is the first I have heard about the restructuring of the underage competitions but it is something I would defo agree with. U12 and even u14 players can benefit alot more from blitz run competitions. Smaller pitches, greater intensity and will improive their basic skills IMO.

I am glad to see the organisers are trying to be progressive.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on April 17, 2009, 01:21:08 PM
Anyone got the weekend's fixtures?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on April 17, 2009, 02:13:14 PM
Here you go Lawrence



Saturday, 18th April 2009 @ 6pm
Imperial Bar A.C.F.L. Division 1 Round 6
Castlerahan v Denn
Referee:  M G Brady
Lavey v Ballinagh
Referee:  Patrick Brady
Belturbet v Cavan Gaels
Referee:  Raymond Kelly
Ramor Utd v Cuchulainns
Referee:  Jimmy Galligan - Lacken
Redhills v Killygarry
Referee:  Gerry Sheridan
Mullahoran v Crosserlough
Referee:  Martin Sexton
Lacken v Gowna
Referee:  Joe McQuillan

Saturday, 18th April 2009 @ 6pm
Cathal Brady Audi A.C.F.L. Division 2 Round 6
Drumgoon v Cootehill
Referee:  Martin Brady - Ballinagh
Ballyhaise v Crosserlough (Game at 3pm)
Referee:  Jimmy Galligan - Killygarry
Drung v Killeshandra
Referee:  Oliver O'Reilly
Shercock v Cavan Gaels (Game at 2.30pm)
Referee:  John Smith
Knockbride v Kingscourt
Referee:  Brian Crowe
Drumlane v Killinkere
Referee: John Emmo
Kill v Drumalee
Referee:  Robbie McDermott

Saturday, 18th April 2009 @ 6pm
John Brady Insurances Ltd A.C.F.L.  Division 3 Round 6
Corlough v Munterconnacht
Referee:  Martin Brady - Lacken
Laragh Utd v Butlersbridge
Referee:  Seamus O'Connor
Bailieboro v Shannon Gaels
Referee:  Darren Ward
Killygarry v Swanlinbar (Game at 3pm)
Referee:  Ollie Donohoe
Mountnugent v Kildallon
Referee:  Raymond Tynan
Arva v Templeport
Referee:  Gavin Smith

Sunday, 19th April 2009 @ 2pm
Cavan Waste Disposal Ltd A.C.F.L.  Division 4 Round 3
Drumlane v Gowna
Referee:  Gerry Skelly
Maghera v Kingscourt
Referee:  Kieran McCarville
Mullahoran v Belturbet
Referee:  Mickey Lee
Drumalee v Cuchulainns
Referee:  Harry Conaty
Knockbride v Castlerahan
Referee:  Tony Gregory

Sunday, 19th April 2009 @ 2pm
A.C.F.L.  Division 5 Round 3
Lacken v Templeport
Referee:  Ciaran O'Reilly
Bailieboro v Ballyhaise
Referee:  John Pat Martin
Kildallon v Drumgoon
Referee:  Chris McCaffrey
Redhills v Laragh Utd
Referee:  Jim Hyland
Killinkere v Cootehill
Referee:  Tony McDonald
Lavey v Ramor Utd
Referee:  Felim O'Reilly

Sunday, 19th April 2009 @ 2pm
Philp Miney Meats Ltd A.C.F.L.  Division 6 Round 3
Ballymachugh v Corlough
Referee:  Peter Fahy

Shannon Gaels v Butlersbridge
Referee:  Liam Kelly
Munterconnacht v Crosserlough
Referee:  Paddy Carroll
Swanlinbar v Arva
Referee:  John Cassidy
Kill v Killinkere (Game at 5pm)
Referee:  Ollie Henry
Drung v Mullahoran (Game at 5pm)
Referee:  Stephen McKiernan
Killeshandra v Killygarry (Game in Killygarry)
Referee:  Eugene Tormey
Mountnugent v Cornafean
Referee:  Jim Giblin

Fixtures:

Padraig Sheridan, Ballymachugh, rest of the game 28/03/2009.




Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on April 17, 2009, 02:17:20 PM
Surprised nobody mentioned the story in the Celt this week about Gearoid McKiernan at the AFL Camp. Dont think it was in any of the other papers.What do you's think about it.

On the topic of papers, I don't see the local papers every week? How is the coverage?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on April 17, 2009, 02:20:11 PM
ACFL Predictions Weekend 17/04/09

Last weeks score: 12/17


Imperial Bar A.C.F.L. Division 1 Round 6

Castlerahan v Denn – Denn have yet to pick up points and that does not like changing this weekend.
Lavey v Ballinagh – It is going to be a close one. Will predict Ballinagh to bounce back from last week's drubbing.
Belturbet v Cavan Gaels – Can't look past the Gaels at full strength.
Ramor Utd v Cuchulainns – Think I might try to get to this one. Cucu's have been brutal and although I see a big improvement coming, I think Ramor will utilize home advantage.
Redhills v Killygarry – Redhills to continue to defy belief in Division One. I've a lot of respect for this team.
Mullahoran v Crosserlough: Mullahoran with five or six to spare. Not impressed with Crosserlough at all this year.
Lacken v Gowna – Pearson is back, so is McCabe; Gowna to get their fourth win of the campaign.

Cathal Brady Audi A.C.F.L. Division 2 Round 6

Drumgoon v Cootehill: It's big. Potential share of the spoils here?
Ballyhaise v Crosserlough: Mickey Graham's team to hammer Ballyhaise with the help of Tierney and Cullivan.
Drung v Killeshandra: Drung were boosted by a win over the Gaels last week and will kick on and grab a second pair of two points from the unbeaten Killeshandra.
Shercock v Cavan Gaels: Shercock are poor and the Gaels will ease past them.
Knockbride v Kingscourt: This is a top of the table clash. Knockbride are going to push Kingscourt all the way. The Stars might just sneak it though.
Drumlane v Killinkere: Drumlane let themselves down last week and will come back strong.
Kill v Drumalee: Drumalee for me. Kill will do well to avoid relegation.

John Brady Insurances Ltd A.C.F.L. Division 3 Round 6

Corlough v Munterconnacht: Munchies to show there is life after Powerade!
Laragh Utd v Butlersbridge: Laragh were knocked off their pedestal last weekend by Shannon Gaels. A potential draw, but the home side might just sneak it.
Bailieboro v Shannon Gaels: The best game by a mile in this Division as top meets second. If Shannon Gaels win, it will blow the promotion race wide open but Bailieborough are going to be hard bet.
Killygarry v Swanlinbar: Swanlinbar are more or less already out of the promotion race, but they will blow Killygarry away.
Mountnugent v Kildallon: Both teams are yet to hit top form. Draw.
Hardest three to call:
Laragh Utd v Butlersbridge, Knockbride v Kingscourt, Drumgoon v Cootehill
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on April 17, 2009, 09:32:17 PM
I see Cornafean aren't down to play in Division 3 this weekend. They had a reserve game postponed because of a certain former players' stag a few weeks ago. And now his wedding is on tomorrow and they're not playing again. He mustn't have invited any reserve players as they're playing on Sunday. Marrying a Drumalee woman I think. Sure your game is on Boojangles? ;)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on April 17, 2009, 10:48:15 PM
Just a quick one on the club fixtures above. It seems a common theme here about reserve games and such like having erratic scheduling, and the one about the U16 team being idle in June July and August takes the biscuit.

I haven't lived in Cavan for years now, but wonder what happens at county conventions every year that the affected clubs don't rise a stink? It just seems to happen every year, is there never any pressure put on the CB about it?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on April 19, 2009, 08:56:19 AM
Good to see Redhills get what was coming to them  :D

Killeshandra beat Drung was great first half.  Drung dominated whole game but kicked wide after wide. Galligan was useless Drung play better when he isnt about if he was in most other counites he  wouldnt get near a county team, he cant catch or kick.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on April 19, 2009, 11:02:15 AM
Drung play better when galligan isn't about? Thats a bit of a stupid statement considering he was  their player of the year last year. Great to see the leaguers start so well but they did the same last year too before fading out towards the end of the season.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on April 19, 2009, 11:21:43 AM
Kill beat us by a point yesterday evening. McKenna scored a point in the last minute.Badly refereed by Robbie McDermott,bad for both teams and I never saw as many balls being thrown up in all my life-definitely the sign of a bad ref.Was a few heads at that wedding alright,Art McSeain married a daughter of everybodys favourite referee Tommy Lyons, but I think most of them behaved. Bad result and bad performance but we had enough chances to win it but we were 1-3 down after 10 minutes. Kingscourt and Killeshandra are starting to pull away
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on April 19, 2009, 11:26:14 AM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on April 19, 2009, 11:02:15 AM
Drung play better when galligan isn't about? Thats a bit of a stupid statement considering he was  their player of the year last year. Great to see the leaguers start so well but they did the same last year too before fading out towards the end of the season.


Did he make that up himself or is it just you saying it?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on April 19, 2009, 11:40:56 AM
I didn't mean a formal player of the year award but from what I heard he was their main man last year. Do you have something personal against Galligan, you should declare it now if you do. You seem to be implying he is an arogant sort of lad - I don't know him so I wouldn't know. From what I've seen of him he is a worker and an honest footballer and Cavan don't have too many of those.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on April 19, 2009, 12:10:35 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on April 19, 2009, 11:40:56 AM
I didn't mean a formal player of the year award but from what I heard he was their main man last year. Do you have something personal against Galligan, you should declare it now if you do. You seem to be implying he is an arogant sort of lad - I don't know him so I wouldn't know. From what I've seen of him he is a worker and an honest footballer and Cavan don't have too many of those.

He done alright but wasnt main man.  

I agree with everything you say boojangles.

I have nothing personal against him, he is a honest man and will always do his best but lets himself down with his performances too often. 

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on April 19, 2009, 12:58:27 PM
Was McCormack playing for ye Boojangles? Heard he had a slight mishap (say no more). Bad result for ye. Wouldn't get too concerned about the leaguers. No full forward line. Teams need to drop their half-forward line deep to counter their strong running IMO. Haven't seen the stars yet but a very good result for them yesterday. And anyone see the rories win?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: big balla on April 19, 2009, 09:52:56 PM
Quote from: cavan4ever on April 19, 2009, 12:10:35 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on April 19, 2009, 11:40:56 AM
I didn't mean a formal player of the year award but from what I heard he was their main man last year. Do you have something personal against Galligan, you should declare it now if you do. You seem to be implying he is an arogant sort of lad - I don't know him so I wouldn't know. From what I've seen of him he is a worker and an honest footballer and Cavan don't have too many of those.

He done alright but wasnt main man.  

I agree with everything you say boojangles.

I have nothing personal against him, he is a honest man and will always do his best but lets himself down with his performances too often. 




"he done alright"??   Not bad for a lad that "can't catch or kick", two of the basic skills in football i would've thought.  There is too much expectation at club level for county players to be outstanding  every game they play. Everyone is entitled to an off day. You've already upgraded him from useless to alright so he'l soon be man of the match at the rate your backtracking cavan4ever. Hard to see how they'd play better without one of their best players, good job your not picking the team. Would they play better without Waters and James aswell ?
""he is a honest man and will always do his best but lets himself down with his performances too often"   If he always does his best,how does he let himself down?


Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on April 20, 2009, 08:28:54 AM
Quote from: big balla on April 19, 2009, 09:52:56 PM
Quote from: cavan4ever on April 19, 2009, 12:10:35 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on April 19, 2009, 11:40:56 AM
I didn't mean a formal player of the year award but from what I heard he was their main man last year. Do you have something personal against Galligan, you should declare it now if you do. You seem to be implying he is an arogant sort of lad - I don't know him so I wouldn't know. From what I've seen of him he is a worker and an honest footballer and Cavan don't have too many of those.

He done alright but wasnt main man.  

I agree with everything you say boojangles.

I have nothing personal against him, he is a honest man and will always do his best but lets himself down with his performances too often. 



"he done alright"??   Not bad for a lad that "can't catch or kick", two of the basic skills in football i would've thought.  There is too much expectation at club level for county players to be outstanding  every game they play. Everyone is entitled to an off day. You've already upgraded him from useless to alright so he'l soon be man of the match at the rate your backtracking cavan4ever. Hard to see how they'd play better without one of their best players, good job your not picking the team. Would they play better without Waters and James aswell ?
""he is a honest man and will always do his best but lets himself down with his performances too often"   If he always does his best,how does he let himself down?


Was thinking you would take the bait  ;D

He did alright last year but was poor last Saturday dont think there is any backtracking there. 

If you seen him regular you would know how good he is at catching the ball and his shooting does be terrible by times
What i should have said is that he always trys his best.  He lets himself down by playing poorly i know that he sets himself high standards and would be annoyed with how he played at the weekend.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4sam on April 20, 2009, 09:19:35 AM
Just a quick comment on the Castlerahan v Denn game on Saturday evening, Castlerahan were very good but I dont think I have seen a team as bad a s Denn in a long time, in my opinion they will definitely be relegated this year, dont see any hope for them. Castlerahan Kicked 16 points, 12 from play and probably should have had another 5. The three county men were playing for us, Ronan centre half back, Cian on the 40 and Sean full forward - wearing a mask to protect his nose.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on April 20, 2009, 11:59:14 AM
Quote from: Lawrence of Knockbride on April 19, 2009, 12:58:27 PM
Was McCormack playing for ye Boojangles? Heard he had a slight mishap (say no more). Bad result for ye. Wouldn't get too concerned about the leaguers. No full forward line. Teams need to drop their half-forward line deep to counter their strong running IMO. Haven't seen the stars yet but a very good result for them yesterday. And anyone see the rories win?
Enda was playing surely,at Midfield and was outstanding.Didnt hear anything about a mishap?? I wasnt chatting him after match.Would you PM me?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Drung on April 20, 2009, 12:04:01 PM
QuoteLike myself he wasnt born with superb skill or talent
NEWSFLASH! Boojangles DOES NOT have superb skill and talent. Repeat, DOES NOT have superb skill and talent.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on April 20, 2009, 12:18:15 PM
Quote from: Drung on April 20, 2009, 12:04:01 PM
QuoteLike myself he wasnt born with superb skill or talent
NEWSFLASH! Boojangles DOES NOT have superb skill and talent. Repeat, DOES NOT have superb skill and talent.

Whats the point in that?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on April 20, 2009, 02:29:05 PM
Ballinagh beat Lavey at the weekend in a very tight and hard fought game. Lavey were largely dominant at midfield but luckily a much-improved performance by our lads at the back denied any advantage. Ballinagh weren't their sharpest up front but just did enough to get a gritty win and most importantly two points. Damien McInerney, Podge and Niall McDermott were probably the pick of our lads.

The Rories are up next. I didn't hear much from their weekend defeat of the Gaels, but they will be very hard stopped.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: CC1 on April 20, 2009, 03:46:52 PM
Quote from: put-it-up on April 17, 2009, 02:20:11 PM
ACFL Predictions Weekend 17/04/09
Shercock v Cavan Gaels: Shercock are poor and the Gaels will ease past them.
:o ;D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Babe Ruth 47 on April 20, 2009, 04:29:45 PM
anyone know the fixtures for this weekend. Attempting to organize a weekend of filth aound football fixtures and an aniversary mass
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: big balla on April 20, 2009, 09:43:51 PM
Quote from: cavan4ever on April 20, 2009, 08:28:54 AM
Quote from: big balla on April 19, 2009, 09:52:56 PM
Quote from: cavan4ever on April 19, 2009, 12:10:35 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on April 19, 2009, 11:40:56 AM
I didn't mean a formal player of the year award but from what I heard he was their main man last year. Do you have something personal against Galligan, you should declare it now if you do. You seem to be implying he is an arogant sort of lad - I don't know him so I wouldn't know. From what I've seen of him he is a worker and an honest footballer and Cavan don't have too many of those.

He done alright but wasnt main man.  

I agree with everything you say boojangles.

I have nothing personal against him, he is a honest man and will always do his best but lets himself down with his performances too often. 



"he done alright"??   Not bad for a lad that "can't catch or kick", two of the basic skills in football i would've thought.  There is too much expectation at club level for county players to be outstanding  every game they play. Everyone is entitled to an off day. You've already upgraded him from useless to alright so he'l soon be man of the match at the rate your backtracking cavan4ever. Hard to see how they'd play better without one of their best players, good job your not picking the team. Would they play better without Waters and James aswell ?
""he is a honest man and will always do his best but lets himself down with his performances too often"   If he always does his best,how does he let himself down?


Was thinking you would take the bait  ;D

He did alright last year but was poor last Saturday dont think there is any backtracking there. 

If you seen him regular you would know how good he is at catching the ball and his shooting does be terrible by times
What i should have said is that he always trys his best.  He lets himself down by playing poorly i know that he sets himself high standards and would be annoyed with how he played at the weekend.



I find it hard to believe you would post a comment insulting one of your own clubmates just so i would take the bait. Why not insult my club like you did before, begrudgery seems to be your strong point. I dont see many other posters running down their own team mates, most people would naturally defend them. The only conclusion i can come to is that you have an axe to grind with the lad and you feel that an anonymous message board is the best place to do it. Fairly pathetic if you ask me. I doubt if your as brave to his face cavan4ever. As for backtracking, do you actually read your own posts? I happen to attend alot of Drung's games as I live in the next parish and your talking shite
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: big balla on April 20, 2009, 09:52:23 PM
Quote from: RednBlack on April 18, 2009, 08:36:26 PM
Div 1 Redhills 1-08 Killygarry 0-13 (0-11 to 0-01 up at half time. Paddy Galligan peno save in last seconds to hang on!!! Phew)

Belturbet beat Gaels by 3 points.

Div 3 Killygarry 0-06 Swanlinbar 2-16 (McKiernan/Cunningham show)

what did you think of the game at the wkd rednblack? tight finish, couldn't believe it at the end!!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on April 21, 2009, 08:16:20 AM
Quote from: big balla on April 20, 2009, 09:43:51 PM
Quote from: cavan4ever on April 20, 2009, 08:28:54 AM
Quote from: big balla on April 19, 2009, 09:52:56 PM
Quote from: cavan4ever on April 19, 2009, 12:10:35 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on April 19, 2009, 11:40:56 AM
I didn't mean a formal player of the year award but from what I heard he was their main man last year. Do you have something personal against Galligan, you should declare it now if you do. You seem to be implying he is an arogant sort of lad - I don't know him so I wouldn't know. From what I've seen of him he is a worker and an honest footballer and Cavan don't have too many of those.

He done alright but wasnt main man.  

I agree with everything you say boojangles.

I have nothing personal against him, he is a honest man and will always do his best but lets himself down with his performances too often. 



"he done alright"??   Not bad for a lad that "can't catch or kick", two of the basic skills in football i would've thought.  There is too much expectation at club level for county players to be outstanding  every game they play. Everyone is entitled to an off day. You've already upgraded him from useless to alright so he'l soon be man of the match at the rate your backtracking cavan4ever. Hard to see how they'd play better without one of their best players, good job your not picking the team. Would they play better without Waters and James aswell ?
""he is a honest man and will always do his best but lets himself down with his performances too often"   If he always does his best,how does he let himself down?


Was thinking you would take the bait  ;D

He did alright last year but was poor last Saturday dont think there is any backtracking there. 

If you seen him regular you would know how good he is at catching the ball and his shooting does be terrible by times
What i should have said is that he always trys his best.  He lets himself down by playing poorly i know that he sets himself high standards and would be annoyed with how he played at the weekend.



I find it hard to believe you would post a comment insulting one of your own clubmates just so i would take the bait. Why not insult my club like you did before, begrudgery seems to be your strong point. I dont see many other posters running down their own team mates, most people would naturally defend them. The only conclusion i can come to is that you have an axe to grind with the lad and you feel that an anonymous message board is the best place to do it. Fairly pathetic if you ask me. I doubt if your as brave to his face cavan4ever. As for backtracking, do you actually read your own posts? I happen to attend alot of Drung's games as I live in the next parish and your talking shite


Tell me where i back tracked and i will hold my hands up if i did.  At the start of my message i said something about Redhills so i knew you would have a go. Good man going to Drung games would you not be better off going to you own club games?  Anyway im not going to get into a battle with the likes of you  ;D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Drung on April 21, 2009, 10:23:12 AM
Cavan4ever=Internet warrior.
Be afraid.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on April 21, 2009, 12:26:59 PM
Quote from: Drung on April 20, 2009, 12:04:01 PM
QuoteLike myself he wasnt born with superb skill or talent
NEWSFLASH! Boojangles DOES NOT have superb skill and talent. Repeat, DOES NOT have superb skill and talent.
Jesus your f**king hilarious Drung-You remind me of a previous poster we had-Hollow Man.Same smart ass comments but at least he knew his football (most of the time). You act under the name of a club that I rarely hear you speak of.What do you come on to the Board for? If its to post comments like that then I would safely say that everybody (bar Mr.Pain who we all love and respect) would prefer if you fucked back to the Hoganstand. if you have got a personal thing against me-PM me and we could arrange a meeting. If you know your Cavan football enough and trace back my comments,it wouldnt be too hard to figure out who I am.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Drung on April 21, 2009, 03:14:31 PM
Take it easy Boojangles, just joking with ya man!

Don't post comments about yourself like that if you don't want someone to pull the piss.

I don't think I know who you are, were you playing against Kill? I have been told who Cavan4ever is actually and I'm stunned by the fella's comments on here about one of his own clubmates. I won't mention the name or hint at it though, these things should be anonymous, although anonymous personal attacks are cowardly.

I was at the Killeshandra game, we were just brutal, in the second half especially.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on April 21, 2009, 03:43:08 PM
Quote from: Drung on April 21, 2009, 03:14:31 PM
Take it easy Boojangles, just joking with ya man!

Don't post comments about yourself like that if you don't want someone to pull the piss.

I don't think I know who you are, were you playing against Kill? I have been told who Cavan4ever is actually and I'm stunned by the fella's comments on here about one of his own clubmates. I won't mention the name or hint at it though, these things should be anonymous, although anonymous personal attacks are cowardly.

I was at the Killeshandra game, we were just brutal, in the second half especially.

I know i went a  touch to far but i wasnt the only one around Drung who was saying it, he wasnt the only one who played poor either so shouldnt have singled him out. 

I have always spoke my mind here but maybe there are too many posters here to be doing that now, someone is always going to take offence. 
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tierworker blue on April 21, 2009, 03:51:45 PM
'Tis all goin a bit Hogan Stand-esque dudes...!
Kiss and make up.     :-*
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on April 21, 2009, 04:02:38 PM
Quote from: tierworker blue on April 21, 2009, 03:51:45 PM
'Tis all goin a bit Hogan Stand-esque dudes...!
Kiss and make up.     :-*

No if it was hoganstand i would have another username and log in and agree with what im saying. 

This place is gone to f**k lately in my opinion, posters are more interested in playing little games like predicting who is going to win games at the weekend than having a conversation about football.   
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: the salmon of knowledge on April 21, 2009, 04:43:43 PM
sure in fairness c4e most of the time its you getting in arguements with others with your somewhat adverse views, like your condemnation of the people of mountnugent a couple of weeks ago of your slating of galligan, the man whom you loved so much, that you declared your hate for mountnugent, cause 1 fella from mtnugent slagged him from the stands!!
people are allowed predict the scores... sure its 1 of the things sites like this is for!
quit whingeing
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on April 21, 2009, 04:54:53 PM
Quote from: the salmon of knowledge on April 21, 2009, 04:43:43 PM
sure in fairness c4e most of the time its you getting in arguements with others with your somewhat adverse views, like your condemnation of the people of mountnugent a couple of weeks ago of your slating of galligan, the man whom you loved so much, that you declared your hate for mountnugent, cause 1 fella from mtnugent slagged him from the stands!!
people are allowed predict the scores... sure its 1 of the things sites like this is for!
quit whingeing

Your not going to get me going on that again. 

Yeah work away with your little games.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on April 21, 2009, 05:45:34 PM
Lads, take a chill pill and unknot your knickers!

I think we need a good debate going on football matters, to help you's rowdy pups settle down!

I see the post reviewed the NFL campaign this year, how about we do something simuilar based on the Cavan team.

Most Improved player:
Most consistent:
Rising Star:
Best at the Back:
Worst attitude:
Best Attitude:
Someone who deserves a call up:
One to drop off panel:
Most underachieving player:
Unfittest:
Three players to call up from U21's
Should McKeever be back:
Flanagan's best Position:
your choice of captain:
Is Mulvey good enough:

Feel free to add to the list but keep answers short and sweet

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on April 21, 2009, 06:15:56 PM


Most Improved player: John McCutcheon
Most consistent: Miller(consistently brilliant)
Rising Star: Ray
Best at the Back: John McCutcheon
Worst attitude: Sean Johnston
Best Attitude:  Eddie Reily/Ciaran Galligan
Someone who deserves a call up: Eoin Smith
One to drop off panel:None.
Most underachieving player: Michael Lyng
Unfittest: Podge/Rory Dunne-both were out on their feet against Louth
Three players to call up from U21's: None of them are ready
Should McKeever be back: Yes
Flanagan's best Position: Half Back
your choice of captain: Flanagan is a good choice
Is Mulvey good enough: For the Panel yes, For he first 15 on current form,No.


Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on April 21, 2009, 06:52:30 PM
Good man BHM, we needed to get the topic changed on the forum before there were tears..haha

Here is mine

Most Improved player: Defintely McCutcheon
Most consistent: James Reilly - best we have got
Rising Star: Givney - just need to be polished off
Best at the Back: McCutcheon
Worst attitude: Jelly
Best Attitude: Ciaran
Someone who deserves a call up: John Tierney, if he's fit
One to drop off panel:Podge, his lack of pace
Most underachieving player: Lyng
Unfittest: Derm
Three players to call up from U21's: Prob too many of them already on it
Should McKeever be back:Yep
Flanagan's best Position:WHB
your choice of captain:Fla is the best at the minute
Is Mulvey good enough: Not IMO
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: big balla on April 21, 2009, 07:13:15 PM
Quote from: RednBlack on April 20, 2009, 10:44:34 PM
Quote from: big balla on April 20, 2009, 09:52:23 PM
Quote from: RednBlack on April 18, 2009, 08:36:26 PM
Div 1 Redhills 1-08 Killygarry 0-13 (0-11 to 0-01 up at half time. Paddy Galligan peno save in last seconds to hang on!!! Phew)

Belturbet beat Gaels by 3 points.

Div 3 Killygarry 0-06 Swanlinbar 2-16 (McKiernan/Cunningham show)

what did you think of the game at the wkd rednblack? tight finish, couldn't believe it at the end!!
thank god gerry sheridan was too busy keeping lads out of the D and not seeing that Paddy was on top of your lad when he kicked the peno. Gerry seemed a long way of the pace and made a lot of decisions from way off the action. Exciting game though and those goals in Redhills will never change. All scores seem to go in there. I heard the same happened against Laragh on Sunday except the other way around and ended in a draw. Your lads played some lovely football in the second half. That Walsh lad looked handy. Thought our management lost the plot in bringing Ted out to midfield. Should have left him where he was and those runs through the middle would have been a lot more difficult  ;D

thats always the way but i dont remember scoring in them too often!!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: big balla on April 21, 2009, 07:32:30 PM
Quote from: cavan4ever on April 21, 2009, 08:16:20 AM
Quote from: big balla on April 20, 2009, 09:43:51 PM
Quote from: cavan4ever on April 20, 2009, 08:28:54 AM
Quote from: big balla on April 19, 2009, 09:52:56 PM
Quote from: cavan4ever on April 19, 2009, 12:10:35 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on April 19, 2009, 11:40:56 AM
I didn't mean a formal player of the year award but from what I heard he was their main man last year. Do you have something personal against Galligan, you should declare it now if you do. You seem to be implying he is an arogant sort of lad - I don't know him so I wouldn't know. From what I've seen of him he is a worker and an honest footballer and Cavan don't have too many of those.

He done alright but wasnt main man.  

I agree with everything you say boojangles.

I have nothing personal against him, he is a honest man and will always do his best but lets himself down with his performances too often. 



"he done alright"??   Not bad for a lad that "can't catch or kick", two of the basic skills in football i would've thought.  There is too much expectation at club level for county players to be outstanding  every game they play. Everyone is entitled to an off day. You've already upgraded him from useless to alright so he'l soon be man of the match at the rate your backtracking cavan4ever. Hard to see how they'd play better without one of their best players, good job your not picking the team. Would they play better without Waters and James aswell ?
""he is a honest man and will always do his best but lets himself down with his performances too often"   If he always does his best,how does he let himself down?


Was thinking you would take the bait  ;D

He did alright last year but was poor last Saturday dont think there is any backtracking there. 

If you seen him regular you would know how good he is at catching the ball and his shooting does be terrible by times
What i should have said is that he always trys his best.  He lets himself down by playing poorly i know that he sets himself high standards and would be annoyed with how he played at the weekend.



I find it hard to believe you would post a comment insulting one of your own clubmates just so i would take the bait. Why not insult my club like you did before, begrudgery seems to be your strong point. I dont see many other posters running down their own team mates, most people would naturally defend them. The only conclusion i can come to is that you have an axe to grind with the lad and you feel that an anonymous message board is the best place to do it. Fairly pathetic if you ask me. I doubt if your as brave to his face cavan4ever. As for backtracking, do you actually read your own posts? I happen to attend alot of Drung's games as I live in the next parish and your talking shite


Tell me where i back tracked and i will hold my hands up if i did.  At the start of my message i said something about Redhills so i knew you would have a go. Good man going to Drung games would you not be better off going to you own club games?  Anyway im not going to get into a battle with the likes of you  ;D

i go to as many of my club games as i can, but i have an interest in football in general and go to lots of our neighbouring clubs games,the likes of ballyhaise, bulersbridge and yourselves. I didn come on this board to have spats with people, but i just couldn't understand saying something like that about your clubmate. Drung seems to have figured who you are, i didnt think he was the type to hold back. Less of the negative stuff cavan4ever, try supporting your club instead and we'l all be the better for it. you dont want to become just another begrudger standing on the sideline givin out nonstop about everything from the ref to the price of bagged stuff, there's a few in every club. in the infamous words of Mr.PAIN, rant over!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on April 21, 2009, 07:48:59 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on April 21, 2009, 06:15:56 PM


Most Improved player: John McCutcheon
Most consistent: Miller(consistently brilliant)
Rising Star: Ray
Best at the Back: John McCutcheon
Worst attitude: Sean Johnston
Best Attitude:  Eddie Reily/Ciaran Galligan
Someone who deserves a call up: Eoin Smith
One to drop off panel:None.
Most underachieving player: Michael Lyng
Unfittest: Podge/Rory Dunne-both were out on their feet against Louth
Three players to call up from U21's: None of them are ready
Should McKeever be back: Yes
Flanagan's best Position: Half Back
your choice of captain: Flanagan is a good choice
Is Mulvey good enough: For the Panel yes, For he first 15 on current form,No.



Can't really disagree with you BHM except that McCabe is probably less fit than the two boys you listed. And there's another place Johnston could be put if he doesn't quit acting like some of the boys on here. :P
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on April 21, 2009, 08:19:17 PM
Most Improved player: McCutcheon followed by Dunne
Most consistent: Miller, Johnstone
Rising Star: Givney
Best at the Back: For me strangely this year it been Fannin when hes got a chance
Worst attitude: All star for Jelly, McKeever notable silver
Best Attitude: Galligan, Eddie
Someone who deserves a call up: Eoin Smith seems to have been called up
One to drop off panel: Anyone acting the bollix, don't know of anyone yet.
Most underachieving player: Lyng, McKeever
Unfittest: Podge (lack of matches), McCabe
Three players to call up from U21's: Some talent there but not for a year or two
Should McKeever be back: No. Fucked up once too many hasn't been performing anyhow.
Flanagan's best Position: Sweeper in front of FB line
your choice of captain: We don't have any real leaders but Flanagan is a decent choice
Is Mulvey good enough: Can give a decent 15 minutes but is limited. Good enough for the panel.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: the salmon of knowledge on April 22, 2009, 12:57:11 AM
Most Improved player: dunne
Most consistent: Miller
Rising Star: Givney
Best at the Back: gunner
Worst attitude: wibbley wobbley wonder wearing the no 13
Best Attitude: Galligan, Eddie
Someone who deserves a call up: john tierney i suppose sean maguire from lavey seems to be playing well
One to drop off panel:
Most underachieving player: walsh
Unfittest: none of them look razor sharp
Three players to call up from U21's: givney and cullivan already there, mc kiernan is still light
Should McKeever be back: No.
Flanagan's best Position: whb
your choice of captain: give ro a chance there
Is Mulvey good enough: most underrated player on the panel
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on April 22, 2009, 11:46:01 AM
Quote from: Drung on April 21, 2009, 03:14:31 PM
Take it easy Boojangles, just joking with ya man!

Don't post comments about yourself like that if you don't want someone to pull the piss.


Whatever Drung,keep it to the football and You and me will have no problems.little digs like that or trying to set me up and you can go sit on it! I come on here to have sensible debate about Cavan GAA,I have other ways to have a laugh.

I havent supported Cavan enough this year to complete that list but there are some very interesting comments.
What I seen of Cian Mackey in Newry,he has the ability to be a real star for us in the Summer,if he applies himself and is played in the right role.
I agree with Myles? about Fannin,think he should be a definite starter,I have rarely seen him let Cavan down over the last 4-5 years.
Mulvey definitely has a role as maybe a cameo ala Antrim. Flanagan seems the best man for Captain in the long run and lets hope we see Micky Lyng continue to improve.the man has had a torrid few years,the more games he gets the better IMO.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on April 22, 2009, 09:42:23 PM
Cavan are playing Galway on Sunday in Headford. Anyone making the trip over? Not sure if it is a good idea to play Galway, they are one of those teams that can really open up and hammer a team. A hammering is not what we need right now. Anyone remember a few years ago we played Dublin (in templeport I  think), Pierson did his cruciate and McKeever went on the beer instead of turning up. Dublin trounced us and the panel were demoralised. I think maybe we should be playing teams at our own level instead of teams that are a definite level above us. I suppose if we keep the score tight it will give us a boost though.

Also see our game in the 1st rd of Ulster is going to be on a Saturday evening under lights, either in Breffni or Newry.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Swadman on April 22, 2009, 11:27:34 PM
QuoteCavan are playing Galway on Sunday in Headford. Anyone making the trip over? Not sure if it is a good idea to play Galway, they are one of those teams that can really open up and hammer a team. A hammering is not what we need right now. Anyone remember a few years ago we played Dublin (in templeport I  think), Pierson did his cruciate and McKeever went on the beer instead of turning up. Dublin trounced us and the panel were demoralised. I think maybe we should be playing teams at our own level instead of teams that are a definite level above us. I suppose if we keep the score tight it will give us a boost though.
I have to agree with you Myles, I still remember the humiliation of the Dublin game in the Templeport pitch opening. Pierson was starting to go well until that injury put him out for a long time. McKeever and A N Other from B/nagh didnt make it past Killeshandra, took a wrong turn into the Shamrock. I hope the attitude of the current panel is a little more respectful, dare I say, professional, to challange games. I was involved in my own club when we were planning our pitch opening to co-incide with our centenary. Cavan let us down, promised to come the following year, let us down again !!! We had to get Fermanagh & Leitrim,  ??? But hey, we are in West Cavan, maybe thats where they think we should be playing anyway.
No, I'm not bitter. I'm over it now. ;D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: jimjim on April 23, 2009, 10:56:22 AM
Cavan Team V Galway

1. James Reilly Drung
2. Michael Brides Oliver Plunketts
3. Rory Dunne Redhills
4. Eoin Smith Killigarry
5. John Mc Cutcheon Cootehill
6. Padraig Reilly Ballinagh
7. Keith Fannin Drumgoon
8. David Givney Mountnugent
9. Nicholas Walsh Cavan Gaels
10. Sean Brady Castlerahan
11. Raymond Cullivan Ballyhaise
12. Cian Mackey Castlerahan
13. Jason Reilly Belturbet
14. Dermot Mc Cabe Gowna
15. Gerry Pearson Gowna
16. Fintan Reilly Redhills
17. Michael Lyng Cavan Gaels
18. Ronan Flanagan Castlerahan
19. Lorcan Mulvey Butlersbridge
20. Michael Hannon Drumgoon
21. Martin Reilly Killigarry
22. Gearoid Mc Kiernan Swanlinbar
23. Declan Mc Kiernan Killeshandra
24. Larry Reilly Knockbride



Galway team:
1- Doherty
2- K. Fitz
3- D. Finnegan
4- Damien Burke
5- D.Meehan
6- D.Reilly
7- Alan Burke
8- Bradshaw
9-Bergin
10- Coleman
11- Breathnach
12- G. O Donnell
13- Mattie Clancy
14- Armstrong
15-N.Joyce

Any Thoughts??

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on April 23, 2009, 11:32:25 AM
Clearly Carr is still in experimental mode. I'll give him this game to try out new people in new positions but he really needs to start firming up his team selection. Rory Dunne at FB is not a solution I fear no more than podge was. Eoin Smiths inclusion is good to see but its an awful pity he wasn't in earlier. McCabe is finished in the middle so its FF or bust for him. I like the idea of him in there but Cavan need to learn that just cos the FF is big doesn't mean you can just balloon shite hail mary balls in on top of him. They need to be diagonal direct balls in front of him. Dermot also needs to realise that he just can't stand still on the edge of the small box waitin for perfect balls, he has to be mobile.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4sam on April 23, 2009, 12:54:15 PM
If he is good enough, he will be able to adapt.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: D Best Full Forward ever on April 23, 2009, 01:13:18 PM
If Ted is played Full Back he will show how gud he is! no point in playin him corner back! was rabbitte eva played corner bak??

Fair play to Ted and Best of luck

He deserves his chance
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on April 23, 2009, 01:50:38 PM
Quote from: cavan4sam on April 23, 2009, 12:54:15 PM
If he is good enough, he will be able to adapt.

Sure by that logic we should be playing James Reilly at FF. FB is a specialist position.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4sam on April 23, 2009, 02:14:13 PM
Im not saying that, what im saying is that at intercounty football you need everyone of full back line to be able to play in all 3 positions. Im sure he is a very good full back, ive listened to ye guys talk about him for so long, maybe now he will show us. I seen him play against us and he was playing on Sean, came off around 50 50. I hope is does the business cos Cavan need a good full back.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on April 23, 2009, 02:31:18 PM
I'm sure the Cavan backs breathed a sigh of relief at the absences of Meehan, Joyce and Bane, but that's still a fairly strong Galway side and indeed FF line.

Rory Dunne is young lad I rate very highly, and I wouldn't rule him out as a full-back just yet. To be honest, I can't see us finding an all-round FB at this stage so I think we'll have to make do with a 'horses for courses' approach. Great to see Eoin Smith being given a chance. I know some of ye have suggested that corner-back isn't his position but I don't think Galway will play Matt Clancy up front, they'll more than likely have him operating as a third midfielder in that case 'Ted' and Dunne will be inside as joint-FBs on Armstrong and Nicky Joyce  

I've personally always preferred Fannin as a half-back, and it's good to see him start there, but I'd imagine he'll end up in the FB line at some point or may pick up Clancy if he moves out. I presume Gunner's absence is due to handball commitments. I heard recently that he may be missing for the first round of the Championship for similar reasons (note: this is completely unconfirmed) so no harm trying out a few others. As mentioned earlier in the thread there's plenty of worry over Podge's fitness, hopefully more and more matches will bring him on. He'll have it tough against Fiachra Breathnach.

Givney on Bradshaw and Walsh on Bergin doesn't really fill me with a lot of confidence, but I haven't seen a whole pile of either this year so I'll wait and see.

The return of Mackey and Brady is encouraging and bar any other mishaps both should have just enough time to regain fitness for the championship. Cullivan wouldn't be a CHF in my mind; he'll possibly switch with one of the lads on the wing at some point.

Jason supposedly put in a big display at the weekend so there may be life in the old dog yet. 'Star' Donaghy gave the Galway FB a torrid time last day out so there's hope McCabe can exploit some of the same weaknesses (although I fully agree with Myles's point in relation to him just sitting on the square). Hopefully Pearson can pick up where he left off and most importantly come through unscathed. Cavan are a bit over-reliant on Johnston, so no harm leaving him out and letting others step up to mark.

Fingers-crossed Cavan can give them a bit of a game or at least survive without any moral-sapping hammering.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on April 23, 2009, 02:37:56 PM
Quote from: cavan4sam on April 23, 2009, 02:14:13 PM
Im not saying that, what im saying is that at intercounty football you need everyone of full back line to be able to play in all 3 positions. Im sure he is a very good full back, ive listened to ye guys talk about him for so long, maybe now he will show us. I seen him play against us and he was playing on Sean, came off around 50 50. I hope is does the business cos Cavan need a good full back.
Agree with C4Sam here,If he is good enough which i think he is, he should be able to play in any of the Full-Back positions.Although I would be a wee bit worried that he may not have the pace for Corner back. Anyway Best of Luck Hope he shows well.
Don't like to see Gearoid McKiernan in on a County Senior panel and him only out of Minor.What is the point in that? While he is a big tall lad, he is very slight and IMO needs alot of coaching.Give him 2-3 years and he mite make it but throwing him into Senior InterCounty level before he is fully developed is stupid IMO.There are very few young lads who can make the transition so quick.Club football and Under-21 county should be enough.
Surely there are more experienced midfielders in the County?
Swadman what do you think?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: D Best Full Forward ever on April 23, 2009, 03:01:26 PM
I cant see him having much problem with speed! but if Tommy Carr wants to see his true potential full back is where he should play
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on April 23, 2009, 06:03:40 PM
Welcome to the board D Best Full Forward ever even if you have D Worst User Name ever. Glad to see you've sorted out your Hoganstand spelling form your first post. Don't mean to sound pretentious but "eva" for "ever" and "gud" for "good" makes no sense to me.

Anyway, I'd be thinking that although it may be desirable for a FB to be able to play CB I think that a lot of FBs are one-position only and Smith sounds like he's that type of player (from wath a few Killygarry boys have told me-I still haven't seen him play). Anyway, I agree that a morale victory will do us in this particular game.

I'm away this weekend so no club or inter-county games for Lawrence :'(. So as many reports as possible on Sunday evening please lads.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: the salmon of knowledge on April 23, 2009, 07:30:16 PM
i like the look of that team i must say, i will head to see the game i reckon, FF line has alot of strenght but i am not too sure about the service they will get, which will have to be pretty dead on. its a line out which will rely heavily on mackey i feel, but i think for cavan to do well in the summer, cian will have to be top of his game anyway. mackey against limerick, gunner against offaly and givney against down were the 3 best league preformances this year for me. gunner the pick of them.
ted should be well able to play CB no point making excuses for him before he puts on a jersey!!  sure hannon played CHF for his club last week so i cant see much logic in your message C4sam...
anyway good luck to him, hope he plays well
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4sam on April 23, 2009, 08:05:52 PM
Quote from: the salmon of knowledge on April 23, 2009, 07:30:16 PM
i like the look of that team i must say, i will head to see the game i reckon, FF line has alot of strenght but i am not too sure about the service they will get, which will have to be pretty dead on. its a line out which will rely heavily on mackey i feel, but i think for cavan to do well in the summer, cian will have to be top of his game anyway. mackey against limerick, gunner against offaly and givney against down were the 3 best league preformances this year for me. gunner the pick of them.
ted should be well able to play CB no point making excuses for him before he puts on a jersey!!  sure hannon played CHF for his club last week so i cant see much logic in your message C4sam...
anyway good luck to him, hope he plays well


I said that he shud be able to adapt to corner back if he is good enough. Am I missing something?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on April 23, 2009, 08:17:26 PM
Quote from: boojangles on April 23, 2009, 02:37:56 PM
Quote from: cavan4sam on April 23, 2009, 02:14:13 PM
Im not saying that, what im saying is that at intercounty football you need everyone of full back line to be able to play in all 3 positions. Im sure he is a very good full back, ive listened to ye guys talk about him for so long, maybe now he will show us. I seen him play against us and he was playing on Sean, came off around 50 50. I hope is does the business cos Cavan need a good full back.
Agree with C4Sam here,If he is good enough which i think he is, he should be able to play in any of the Full-Back positions.Although I would be a wee bit worried that he may not have the pace for Corner back. Anyway Best of Luck Hope he shows well.
Don't like to see Gearoid McKiernan in on a County Senior panel and him only out of Minor.What is the point in that? While he is a big tall lad, he is very slight and IMO needs alot of coaching.Give him 2-3 years and he mite make it but throwing him into Senior InterCounty level before he is fully developed is stupid IMO.There are very few young lads who can make the transition so quick.Club football and Under-21 county should be enough.
Surely there are more experienced midfielders in the County?
Swadman what do you think?

Disagree with you there about McKiernan, Salmon.

yes he is young and still a bit too light but training as part of the Cavan Senior panel will bring him on more than training with his club. Also this way, he along with a few other younger players that are currently training with the team, can be supervised and I am sure the management team will have the younger players doing individual work on the development of their bodies!

In three or four years time, I see McKiernan and Givney as Cavan's midfield, that is if the AFL dont take him from us.....
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on April 23, 2009, 09:25:17 PM
Cavan name 24 man panel three days before challenge match, is this some sort of record, we didn't know what the line up was in some of the league match before tuning in to the lads on Northern Sound. Am I blind or is one Sean Johsnston missing from the 24 man panel? Any comments on this, injury or something else?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on April 23, 2009, 09:34:34 PM
Quote from: anglocelt39 on April 23, 2009, 09:25:17 PM
Cavan name 24 man panel three days before challenge match, is this some sort of record, we didn't know what the line up was in some of the league match before tuning in to the lads on Northern Sound. Am I blind or is one Sean Johsnston missing from the 24 man panel? Any comments on this, injury or something else?

He's probably doesn't do friendlys  ::). He wasn't playing for the gaels at the weekend either.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on April 23, 2009, 10:44:24 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on April 23, 2009, 09:34:34 PM
Quote from: anglocelt39 on April 23, 2009, 09:25:17 PM
Cavan name 24 man panel three days before challenge match, is this some sort of record, we didn't know what the line up was in some of the league match before tuning in to the lads on Northern Sound. Am I blind or is one Sean Johsnston missing from the 24 man panel? Any comments on this, injury or something else?

He's probably doesn't do friendlys  ::). He wasn't playing for the gaels at the weekend either.
Ahh here lads, mind we don't get too personal here
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on April 24, 2009, 07:59:08 AM
Sorry Seanie!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on April 24, 2009, 08:39:26 AM
Quote from: the salmon of knowledge on April 23, 2009, 07:30:16 PM
i like the look of that team i must say, i will head to see the game i reckon, FF line has alot of strenght but i am not too sure about the service they will get, which will have to be pretty dead on. its a line out which will rely heavily on mackey i feel, but i think for cavan to do well in the summer, cian will have to be top of his game anyway. mackey against limerick, gunner against offaly and givney against down were the 3 best league preformances this year for me. gunner the pick of them.
ted should be well able to play CB no point making excuses for him before he puts on a jersey!!  sure hannon played CHF for his club last week so i cant see much logic in your message C4sam...
anyway good luck to him, hope he plays well

?????????????? Surely Mackey was the pick of the players that night?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on April 24, 2009, 01:00:58 PM
Cavan Team V Galway

1. James Reilly Drung
2. Michael Brides Oliver Plunketts
3. Rory Dunne Redhills
4. Eoin Smith Killigarry
5. John Mc Cutcheon Cootehill
6. Padraig Reilly Ballinagh
7. Keith Fannin Drumgoon
8. David Givney Mountnugent
9. Nicholas Walsh Cavan Gaels
10. Sean Brady Castlerahan
11. Raymond Cullivan Ballyhaise
12. Cian Mackey Castlerahan
13. Jason Reilly Belturbet
14. Dermot Mc Cabe Gowna
15. Gerry Pearson Gowna

16. Fintan Reilly Redhills
17. Michael Lyng Cavan Gaels
18. Ronan Flanagan Castlerahan
19. Lorcan Mulvey Butlersbridge
20. Michael Hannon Drumgoon
21. Martin Reilly Killigarry
22. Gearoid Mc Kiernan Swanlinbar
23. Declan Mc Kiernan Killeshandra
24. Larry Reilly Knockbride


That full back line will get done for a serious amount of goals on Sunday if Galway have Meehan,Armstrong,Joyce and Co about
Michael Brides doesnt have the legs for IC level anymore,
Rory Dunne isnt fast enough off the mark for Full back.
Good that Eoin Smith is getting a chance but he could have a tough time on sunday.

Decent enough looking rest of the team
Although who will be fit to Stay with Joe Bergin when he makes his runs, i dont know.
If Carr hasnt learned against Louth that two slow players at centrefield is not on,then i wouldnt think much of his game analysis ability.
Givney and Walsh are both good players,But neither are mobile enough to stay with the likes of Bergin,Paddy Keenan the last day, and the likes of Marty McGrath or Dan Gordan in the championship.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Swadman on April 24, 2009, 06:36:34 PM
I have to agree with Boojangles on the McKiernan issue. He is just out of minor and too light for I.C. at the moment. No way should he play even challenges yet. I have no objection to a few of the U-21's training with the panel for experience (and to put a rocket up the seniors, show them whats coming up the line) but to concider playing them now at I.C. level is literally risking their survival for the future.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: sams the aim on April 25, 2009, 12:07:02 AM
I'm new to this board but i have been reading a while now and I'm absolutely disgusted to hear abuse being fired at seanie johnston.Do yous so called fans not realise he is still our best player and top scorer by a country mile. Yous speak about attitude and before yous all reply I do see a problem when he gives out to players its not right i understand that but you dnt get as good as he has gotten without serious practice. Has anyone else seen the development in him physically in last two years. Obviously a lot of gym work being done. I have heard from numerous sources that he is never away from the pitch kicking including before and after every training. Now tell me if we more players doing this work would be in the position we are in now. He is one of the best players we have ever produced and yous just abuse him. The amount of players that move around during national anthems is huge and a lot of talking goes on during that time. To put the blame on just one player is crazy. Laurence you speak of attitude did you see where your club man headed when he was taking off( quite rightly i mite add). Do we ever here stories of Seanie out drinking with cavan gear on or falling about the place.
Michael lyng another one people saying biggest under achiever what he has gone through injury wise just to be playing. Do some fans not realise d effort these boys put in to perform aswel as they do against top players. Der are certain parts of Johnstons game he has to improve on but I do note he is passing more than ever this year another pass for podges goal against louth i think. He has to stop standing with hands on hips and stop shouting and be more positive to other players but folks we have got to get behind our players and try and progress this season and our future forwards.Other wise we are going no where. Please lets get behind them
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on April 25, 2009, 12:45:51 AM
Welcome to the board Sam's the Aim and I admire you optimistic name.
From reading your post you seem to agree with everyone on here. You've pointed out the same flaws that everyone else has and you state some positive things about the man. I criticised him doing what he does, I also criticised McCabe for (allegedly) missing the offaly game because he was at the rugby, I criticised Donal Keoghan's handling of affairs over the last two years and so on. The point is everyone knows what a good player he is and that's what makes his inappropriate behaviour harder to take. He has it all so why do the simple things right?
I get behind him and I don't abuse him or any other player/official at games. The point is everyone on here wants what's best for Cavan football and we point out the good and we point out the things taking away from it.
Showing disrespect to fellow players is wrong. I also think that Martin Reilly is a hard trainer and gives his all in games so maybe Seanie should get behind him.
No need to get defensive. I don't think there was too much wrong with the negatives pointed out. They were generally constructive.
Oh and I'm not from Knockbride...........just an ode...............
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on April 25, 2009, 10:40:15 AM
Quote from: Lawrence of Knockbride on April 25, 2009, 12:45:51 AM

Oh and I'm not from Knockbride...........just an ode...............

Jesus now that I didnt know.Altho I doubted the name,I always presumed you were from Knockbride.Care to inform us of your club or maybe people know already???
I can understand Sams the Aims point,Sean Johnston has dedicated his life to Cavan Football and making himself the footballer he is today.He is a winner and Cavan needs alot more of them but as you pointed out he lets himself down at times by bitching at other players.He has to understand that everybody on the Cavan team cant do everything as well as he can.One perfect example to look to is Colm Gooch Cooper.Most gifted footballer in Ireland but his attitude is what makes him the best.
Whats the club fixtures this weekend lads?
We are playing Drumgoon at home this evening at 6.30.need a win.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on April 25, 2009, 11:30:51 AM
Quote from: sams the aim on April 25, 2009, 12:07:02 AM
I'm new to this board but i have been reading a while now and I'm absolutely disgusted to hear abuse being fired at seanie johnston.Do yous so called fans not realise he is still our best player and top scorer by a country mile. Yous speak about attitude and before yous all reply I do see a problem when he gives out to players its not right i understand that but you dnt get as good as he has gotten without serious practice. Has anyone else seen the development in him physically in last two years. Obviously a lot of gym work being done. I have heard from numerous sources that he is never away from the pitch kicking including before and after every training. Now tell me if we more players doing this work would be in the position we are in now. He is one of the best players we have ever produced and yous just abuse him. The amount of players that move around during national anthems is huge and a lot of talking goes on during that time. To put the blame on just one player is crazy. Laurence you speak of attitude did you see where your club man headed when he was taking off( quite rightly i mite add). Do we ever here stories of Seanie out drinking with cavan gear on or falling about the place.
Michael lyng another one people saying biggest under achiever what he has gone through injury wise just to be playing. Do some fans not realise d effort these boys put in to perform aswel as they do against top players. Der are certain parts of Johnstons game he has to improve on but I do note he is passing more than ever this year another pass for podges goal against louth i think. He has to stop standing with hands on hips and stop shouting and be more positive to other players but folks we have got to get behind our players and try and progress this season and our future forwards.Other wise we are going no where. Please lets get behind them

I think you'll find that everyone posting on this thread is a big admirer of Seanie Johnstone. This isn't the hoganstand and most peoples view are a little less parochial than what is said over there. I don't think anyone on here has had a go at a particular club for example. Seanie Johnstone is at a crossroads. He has very defender in Ireland worried about marking him and fair play to him for getting that far. He can now push on or he can continue bitching and moaning and tell everyone how he was great and team he was on were shite when he gets old. As Boojangles pointed out you never see Gooch, Padraig Joyce, Canavan etc standing with there hands on hips roaring at your own players as their man tears up the field with the ball. Football is a team sport, eveyone has to work for each other. If your fellow player is under pressure you dig a bit deeper and give him a hand. He'll do the same for you some day. John Giles in the soccer calls it honesty of endeavour. Seanie is not displaying this very important trait. If he does then he'll be one of the best footballer this county has produced (and we've produced some fantastic players) if not he'll stay stationary. His performance against Louth in the last league game was disgraceful (and it gives me no pleasure in saying that). No respect for minutes silence, no respect for the national anthem and no respect for his team mates. If I were Tommy Carr some serious words would have been said after that game. Seanie is young and can still change. Maybe he needs the manager to help him - I hope he does for the sake of Cavan football, which is all I am interested in seeing improve.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on April 25, 2009, 01:48:05 PM
Quote from: boojangles on April 25, 2009, 10:40:15 AM
Quote from: Lawrence of Knockbride on April 25, 2009, 12:45:51 AM

Oh and I'm not from Knockbride...........just an ode...............

Jesus now that I didnt know.Altho I doubted the name,I always presumed you were from Knockbride.Care to inform us of your club or maybe people know already???
I can understand Sams the Aims point,Sean Johnston has dedicated his life to Cavan Football and making himself the footballer he is today.He is a winner and Cavan needs alot more of them but as you pointed out he lets himself down at times by bitching at other players.He has to understand that everybody on the Cavan team cant do everything as well as he can.One perfect example to look to is Colm Gooch Cooper.Most gifted footballer in Ireland but his attitude is what makes him the best.
Whats the club fixtures this weekend lads?
We are playing Drumgoon at home this evening at 6.30.need a win.
Oh Boojangles, I've come over all shy. Let's just say I'm unaffiliated at the minute.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on April 25, 2009, 10:50:32 PM
Gowna 1-12 C'Rahan 0-07
Denn 0-7 Lavey 1-12
Ballinagh 0-10 Belturbet 0-16
Gaels 1-14 Ramor 0-11
Cuchulainns 2-10 redhills 1-12
C'Lough 0-08 Lacken 2-12

Drumalee 1-11 Drumgoon 0-14
Cootehill 0-14 Ballyhaise 2-08
C'Lough B 3-05 Drung 3-08
Killeshandra 2-12 Shercock 1-05
Kingscourt 3-11 Drumlane 0-00
Killinkere 0-14 Kill 1-08

Templeport 1-11 Corlough 1-07
M'Connaught 0-14 Cornafean 2-06
B'Bridge 0-07 B'boro 0-09
Shannon Gaels 1-11 Killygarry B 1-07
Kildallon 0-09 Arva 1-08
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: big balla on April 26, 2009, 09:09:59 AM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on April 25, 2009, 10:50:32 PM



Kingscourt 3-11 Drumlane 0-00



IS THAT SCORE RIGHT?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on April 26, 2009, 09:41:58 AM
Quote from: big balla on April 26, 2009, 09:09:59 AM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on April 25, 2009, 10:50:32 PM



Kingscourt 3-11 Drumlane 0-00



IS THAT SCORE RIGHT?


I've been told it is - unbelievable.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on April 26, 2009, 11:38:02 AM
That scoreline is unbelievable.i have never heard of that before if its true! I know the Stars are going well but thats a bit much.Surely Cunningham or Corrigan kicked a free or 2??
Tipping bit of a game in Drumalee yesterday evening.1-11 to 14. Down by 4 points with 5 minutes to go and we scored 1-1 in last few minutes. Keith Fannin was outstanding,playing as a 3rd midfielder he was given a free role and looked very impressive.For Drumalee Enda McCormick was again outstanding.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on April 26, 2009, 02:27:53 PM
That score in Kingscourt is indeed correct. Even if it were the whipping boys of the division you'd expect some sort of response. Drumlane are the most hot and cold club in Cavan. They battled their way up over the past 15 years to Division 1 and in their first season up, in a relegation battle, didn't bother field a team for a game (against Castlerathan I think) and down they went.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on April 26, 2009, 03:11:00 PM
Quote from: Lawrence of Knockbride on April 26, 2009, 02:27:53 PM
That score in Kingscourt is indeed correct. Even if it were the whipping boys of the division you'd expect some sort of response. Drumlane are the most hot and cold club in Cavan. They battled their way up over the past 15 years to Division 1 and in their first season up, in a relegation battle, didn't bother field a team for a game (against Castlerathan I think) and down they went.
Dont remember that happening? That was only 2007 when they went down.Cant remember them being in a play-off,thought they went straight down because they only won 2 games all year??
Butlersbridge pitch is the pits,theres a hole in the bottom right hand side of the pitch and it looks like a meteor hit it!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on April 26, 2009, 03:24:47 PM
Aye boojangles i noticed that..we had a small cornerforward playing and his wee legs looked like they were struggling to get up and down that hill...When he was in the middle of it, we could only see the top half of his body ;D ;D

Any word on the Cavan game?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on April 26, 2009, 04:21:12 PM
Quote from: boojangles on April 26, 2009, 03:11:00 PM
Quote from: Lawrence of Knockbride on April 26, 2009, 02:27:53 PM
That score in Kingscourt is indeed correct. Even if it were the whipping boys of the division you'd expect some sort of response. Drumlane are the most hot and cold club in Cavan. They battled their way up over the past 15 years to Division 1 and in their first season up, in a relegation battle, didn't bother field a team for a game (against Castlerathan I think) and down they went.
Dont remember that happening? That was only 2007 when they went down.Cant remember them being in a play-off,thought they went straight down because they only won 2 games all year??
Butlersbridge pitch is the pits,theres a hole in the bottom right hand side of the pitch and it looks like a meteor hit it!
Not a play-off boojangles but there were 2 or 3 teams going into the last few games of the year that could go up/stay down. I think it was Drumlane, Kingscourt & Castlerathan and the former two went. There was some messing about re-arraning the game to suit a stag or a wedding and when their opponents wouldn't move the game to a desirbable time/date the Sons of O'Connell just gave it away.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: D Best Full Forward ever on April 26, 2009, 05:32:12 PM
Any news on the Cavan game today?? Anybody make the trip??
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: offthebeatentrack on April 26, 2009, 06:50:57 PM
Didn't go to it myself. Heard the lads lost by a few points. Didn't get any analysis of the game. Anyone hear any reports?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: D Best Full Forward ever on April 26, 2009, 09:45:09 PM
Final score was
Galway 2-11 Cavan 0-13
No other information
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on April 26, 2009, 09:46:47 PM
Well at least it wasn't a hammering.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: D Best Full Forward ever on April 26, 2009, 10:04:43 PM
Exactly better to lose to teams like Galway and learn something than play some of the lesser counties
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on April 26, 2009, 11:55:13 PM
better than i thought it would be,We arent anywere near Galways lstandard at the moment so im happy with that.
Ourselves and Cootehill played out an interesting draw 0-14 to ourselves 2-08 Saturday evening. We lead 2-03 to 0-1
Cootehill then outscored us 0-12 to 0-01 over a 30 minute period in the middle of the game,Mark Brennan kicked a great score with the last kick of the game to equalise.
Celt Man what did you think of the game?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: whats my name on April 27, 2009, 09:09:25 AM
red and black how did eoin smith get on did you hear anything? good result for cavan hopefully will give them a confidence boost going into championship.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on April 27, 2009, 10:44:09 AM
Didn't here much from the result only that Cavan played well with Galway's goals the only difference between the sides. Was given a quick run through the team...

Miller - came off second half with a tight quad, nothing serious

Fannin - followed Clancy out the field, played ok
Ted - played quite well overall
Hannon - got a bit of a roasting from Nicky Joyce

Podge - Played well
Keating - Unusual position for him, got a run around from Sean Armstrong
McCuthceon - Played well

Walsh - OK
Givney - OK

Mackey - Excellent
Cullivan - Not great
Sean Brady - Didn't hear
Jason - Played well
A.N Other ??
Pearson - Played well

In other news, Mulvey injured the hamstring during the week so will be out for a little while. There's also rumours abound that McCabe has quit the panel, not sure how true they are. Has anyone else heard anything?

Ballinagh lost out to Belturbet on Saturday by 6. A tight enough game throughout, Belturbet only pulled away in the last few minutes as Ballinagh threw everything forward but the Rories deserved the win. Jason showed his class up front, and kicked a couple of excellent points.

And lastly, that Drumlane result is shocking!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on April 27, 2009, 01:19:52 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on April 26, 2009, 11:55:13 PM
better than i thought it would be,We arent anywere near Galways lstandard at the moment so im happy with that.
Ourselves and Cootehill played out an interesting draw 0-14 to ourselves 2-08 Saturday evening. We lead 2-03 to 0-1
Cootehill then outscored us 0-12 to 0-01 over a 30 minute period in the middle of the game,Mark Brennan kicked a great score with the last kick of the game to equalise.
Celt Man what did you think of the game?

Ehh I'm still not too sure how I feel about the game, obviously we got off to a terrible start and 7 points down a few minutes into the second half, I would have taken a draw but anytime time you're winning in injury time and you end up drawing the game you are a little disappointed.  We missed an awful lot, think it was nearly 10 wides in the first half alone and a good few more when we were really on top in the second half.  Maybe though in the end both sides would have been happy enough with a draw, seen as both sides were missing a lot from their championship 15... Were you playing yourself??
BTW what's the story with Cullivan?? He didn't play on Saturday for you but he could play for Cavan in a challenge on Sunday??  Am I missing something here??
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: D Best Full Forward ever on April 27, 2009, 01:26:29 PM
Quote from: Homer on April 27, 2009, 10:44:09 AM
Didn't here much from the result only that Cavan played well with Galway's goals the only difference between the sides. Was given a quick run through the team...

Miller - came off second half with a tight quad, nothing serious

Fannin - followed Clancy out the field, played ok
Ted - played quite well overall
Hannon - got a bit of a roasting from Nicky Joyce

Podge - Played well
Keating - Unusual position for him, got a run around from Sean Armstrong
McCuthceon - Played well

Walsh - OK
Givney - OK

Mackey - Excellent
Cullivan - Not great
Sean Brady - Didn't hear
Jason - Played well
A.N Other ??
Pearson - Played well

In other news, Mulvey injured the hamstring during the week so will be out for a little while. There's also rumours abound that McCabe has quit the panel, not sure how true they are. Has anyone else heard anything?

Ballinagh lost out to Belturbet on Saturday by 6. A tight enough game throughout, Belturbet only pulled away in the last few minutes as Ballinagh threw everything forward but the Rories deserved the win. Jason showed his class up front, and kicked a couple of excellent points.

And lastly, that Drumlane result is shocking!

Think Martin Reilly was the An other but dont know if he was playing full forward. Heard he scored 5 points.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on April 27, 2009, 01:29:25 PM
Quote from: D Best Full Forward ever on April 27, 2009, 01:26:29 PM

Think Martin Reilly was the An other but dont know if he was playing full forward. Heard he scored 5 points.

Pierson was full forward with Martin and Jayo either side of him.  Both corner forwards scored 5 points each.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on April 27, 2009, 01:35:54 PM
Actually Cullivan should be AN Other on that team I put up. I didn't have it confirmed who was on the forty and meant to clarify that. All I heard was from a Galway man that their CHB had a good game on whoever our boy was.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: whats my name on April 27, 2009, 09:03:46 PM
was talking to one of the lads on the panel today yeah mc cabe has quit the panel for definate.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: big balla on April 27, 2009, 09:40:50 PM
Quote from: whats my name on April 27, 2009, 09:03:46 PM
was talking to one of the lads on the panel today yeah mc cabe has quit the panel for definate.
did you hear why he quit?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on April 27, 2009, 11:02:16 PM
Quote from: RednBlack on April 27, 2009, 10:57:01 PM
yeah he's heading to South Africa with the Lions in place of O'Leary!!!!!!!!!!  ;D


Hahahaah  brilliant red n black, could of come up with a better answer myself!

be surprised if he has quit, thought he woulda seen out the summer and then hang up his boots
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: sams the aim on April 27, 2009, 11:39:21 PM
yea well lets all hope seanie and all the lads give the championship a right go because the draw has been kind to cavan. Yea heard dermot packed it in its a strange one really after been on d squad for d league. Do the older fells still believe they are Cavan football and still believe 1997 was only last year and thats still the same way to win things. Heard galway was a good performance with a few good performances mackey martin reilly were good i think. Promising performance and hopefully we can keep improving in next six weeks or so.any word on club games d weekend?any good matches in div 1?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on April 28, 2009, 08:29:55 AM
Quote from: sams the aim on April 27, 2009, 11:39:21 PM
yea well lets all hope seanie and all the lads give the championship a right go because the draw has been kind to cavan. Yea heard dermot packed it in its a strange one really after been on d squad for d league. Do the older fells still believe they are Cavan football and still believe 1997 was only last year and thats still the same way to win things. Heard galway was a good performance with a few good performances mackey martin reilly were good i think. Promising performance and hopefully we can keep improving in next six weeks or so.any word on club games d weekend?any good matches in div 1?
What club are you from Sams The Aim?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Davitt Man on April 28, 2009, 10:17:04 AM
Whats happening in kildallon this year, 1 win out of 6?? Are they missing players?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on April 28, 2009, 12:17:25 PM
From Hoganstand:
McCabe's Cavan future in doubt

Dermot McCabe looks to have played his last game for Cavan after manager Tommy Carr confirmed that he would not be part of his championship plans.

The 33-year-old Gowna colossus wasn't involved with the Breffni County for last Sunday's challenge match defeat to Galway in Headford, and afterwards Carr admitted that he would play no part in this year's championship.

"He hasn't been around for the last two weeks. He was due to be with us in Galway on Sunday, but he didn't come. As far as I am concerned that is the end for this season," he said.

McCabe has been the leading light of Cavan football for over a decade, being an ever-present since breaking into the team in 1995 when they lost the Ulster final. Two years later, the flame-haired midfielder played a starring role as Cavan captured their first Anglo-Celt Cup in nearly 30 years, and he was duly honoured with an All-Star award.

In 1998, he helped Ireland to victory over Australia in the revived International Rules series, but over the last number of years, his career has been blighted by injury, though he remained one of Cavan's best players, either as a midfielder or full forward.




Anyone else hear anything about that???
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on April 28, 2009, 12:28:55 PM
Heard nothing, no, but reading between the lines of what Carr is saying in the article it sounds to me like McCabe wasn't putting it in. He missed a league game a few weeks ago didn't he, and I'd say this latest no-show is the last straw for Carr. Just my own surmising there though. If it's Carr cracking the whip here, I applaud it. Rules are rules and they apply to all.

There's things about McCabe have annoyed us all to distraction down the years but just like it was when Larry was off the panel for a while, his absence will make us appreciate him more. He had many faults and in some ways maybe the panel is better off without him and his domineering ways but overall the fella deserves our thanks for the years of service he gave us in the blue jersey; one of the better players we've produced in the last 20 years.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: The GAA on April 28, 2009, 12:34:21 PM

The best player you have produced in that time - if you want to consider producing the goods in championship football the barometer
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Drung on April 28, 2009, 01:11:01 PM
Well said TheGAA (terrible name by the way).

McCabe was head and shoulders above them all - consistently brilliant on the big day.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on April 28, 2009, 02:10:31 PM
Will always remember McCabe for almost single handidly beating Down on his own in 2001,
His point from the sideline was one of the best scores ive seen. He lorded midfield that day.
That was his best performance in a Cavan shirt in my opinion.

Again in 2005 when his 2 goal barrage beat Down in  a replay in Breffini.

He had a few years 2002-2004 when he was crippled with injuries and wasnt fit to train and looked like he was just about finished

Over the last 2/3 years he regained some of his best form for club and county.

I dont think it would be a stretch to say he was our most talented player over the last 20 years.
Hed have got on any team in Ireland at his best.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on April 28, 2009, 04:59:02 PM
From reading that statement from Carr it looks like Dermot did a couple of no shows and so Carr said that is it. Have to say, for all Dermots flaws, I don't remember anyone ever questioning his commitment to training or to the team. I find it strange that he would be a no show like that. I honestly thought there was a place for Dermot at FF on this Cavan team. So that could be the end for one of our best players of the modern era. I'd like to say thank you to Dermot, hes played for Cavan since he was 19 and he'd be 33 now by my reckoning. Thats a fair auld stint by any stretch of the imagination. The only breaks he took were for injuries and I'm suer he had plenty of chances to head to the states etc and leave the county to fend for  themselves.  For me, that intercepted handpass in the Ulster Final in 97 where he took 2 steps with the ball and belted it over from miles out, was the most memorable score. The day he came on against Down at FF on one leg and proceeded to wreck havoc was another. Hes had many a fine day and even when the legs started to go he still seldom but in a bad performance. Time now for the new lads and the lads getting into their mid 20's to take a step up and start to lead by example.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on April 28, 2009, 05:10:59 PM
I don't know the reasons why McCabe has opted out but regardless of that I would like to recognise his years of service to Cavan.

The u21 run of 1996, winning Ulster in 1997, Cavan's second all-star, the international rules performances, those gigantic sideline pints, the obliteration of Down....

Some great memories and a huge part in landing some much-awaited silverware. IMO Cavan's greatest player of the last couple of decades.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: big balla on April 28, 2009, 06:08:01 PM
your all talking like he's dead, he could be back before a ball is kicked in the championship
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on April 28, 2009, 06:20:24 PM
Quote from: big balla on April 28, 2009, 06:08:01 PM
your all talking like he's dead, he could be back before a ball is kicked in the championship
Got in just ahead of me Big Balla. He's certainly been a great player but for the time being I'd like to hear why he didn't show up for what seems to be the second time this year after sitting out the first 2 or 3 games. A bit of respect for ones fellow players doesn't take a huge effort.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on April 28, 2009, 07:17:24 PM
Quote from: big balla on April 28, 2009, 06:08:01 PM
your all talking like he's dead, he could be back before a ball is kicked in the championship

He could but it is highly unlikely when the manager says that he won't be involved any more this season. I expect Dermot knew that if he didn't turn up to games that is what would happen.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on April 28, 2009, 09:56:34 PM
RTE radio had it this morning that Dermot had retired. It's a sad way to finish. I would agree with most of what has been said about the lad-could drive you mad, may well have been a disruptive influence by times but huge talent and absolutely rode with injuries over the years. When you see the shower of pussies from Chelsea and Barcelona rolling around on their overpaid arses tonight it would be churlish not to say thanks to the man for the effort put in over the years. One of my memories of him was the Ulster final that got away in 2001 against Tyrone, not so much his performance as the amount of attention Tyrone devoted to curb his effectiveness, as only they can.

Don't think he fully reached is potential because of all the injuries, being one reason anway, look back at games in 96, 97 when he was moving freely kicking points for fun and think of what might have been.

While I'm at it, about time to also make a vote of thanks to Anthony Forde, again a man who always gave 100% and never struck me as one who messed around to excess. Always thought he had it in him to be a supremely talented half forward and I think he did his bit for the team by being converted into a defender to plug gaps that were there at the time, it may not have come naturally at first but certainly made a fair fist of it over the years.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: the salmon of knowledge on April 28, 2009, 11:03:57 PM
Quote from: Lawrence of Knockbride on April 24, 2009, 08:39:26 AM
Quote from: the salmon of knowledge on April 23, 2009, 07:30:16 PM
i like the look of that team i must say, i will head to see the game i reckon, FF line has alot of strenght but i am not too sure about the service they will get, which will have to be pretty dead on. its a line out which will rely heavily on mackey i feel, but i think for cavan to do well in the summer, cian will have to be top of his game anyway. mackey against limerick, gunner against offaly and givney against down were the 3 best league preformances this year for me. gunner the pick of them.
ted should be well able to play CB no point making excuses for him before he puts on a jersey!!  sure hannon played CHF for his club last week so i cant see much logic in your message C4sam...
anyway good luck to him, hope he plays well

?????????????? Surely Mackey was the pick of the players that night?


yes LoK sorry totally forgot that!!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: whats my name on April 29, 2009, 10:24:22 PM
i hear that cavan are playing antrim in lacken on saturday for the opening of there new pitch.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: sams the aim on April 29, 2009, 10:30:59 PM
well it appears big dermo is gone.good bye and thanks for all d good times.always felt he cud and shud have made more of the talent he had but appeard a bit to lazy to work on his game outside of trainings and matches. But what a talent he was.yea think cavan playing antrim in lacken is it a sat or a sunday lads. rumour has it Johnston a big doubt for first round wa kept in hospital for 3 days and nights after league game.supposedly serious enough and out for a few months now.Loss would be just ridiculous and does not bear talking about really. it was in the independant the other day. any view on league games this weekend?whos playing who
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: trim blue on April 29, 2009, 11:52:27 PM
Sorry to see big Dermot gone, especially in this way. When he swung over that point in the last minute against Louth I didn't think that would be the last time I'd see him do that for Cavan, a point was no good to us at that stage as we needed a goal but maybe he knew it was the last chance he'd get to swing one over. Of all the '97 contingent his retirement really marks the end of an era. Good luck to him and thanks for filling us with pride on so many occasions....
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on April 30, 2009, 08:43:53 AM
Quote from: whats my name on April 29, 2009, 10:24:22 PM
i hear that cavan are playing antrim in lacken on saturday for the opening of there new pitch.
Lacken have a new pitch? What time's the game at?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on April 30, 2009, 11:36:54 AM
This board has gone quiet over the last two days or so...Its almost as if we were subconciously mourning the loss of the Bull McCabe! :D

Lacken's pitch and clubhouse has been open for ages, its obviously one of those openings that happpen a year after it was actually finished!!!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Bongo on April 30, 2009, 12:25:02 PM
It is a shame Dermot's cavan career ended in such a fashion, but there you go, we need to move on and get a true replacement for that midfield position. Although I can't think of any options at the moment. Hopefully a few young lads will come through in the next few years.  i saw a small bit of a minor match at the weekend between Kingscourt and Ballyhaise. There was a couple of young lads who impressed me, No.8 for K'court and No.11 for B'haise (don't know their names). Big lads with plenty of skill. The type we need to be nurturing for the future.

If that news about Johnson is true, it'll be a big blow to our already feable chances. I'd say the best we could hope for realistically wud be a run in the backdoor. Hopefully I'm proven wrong. It'd be nice to see a wee bit of sucess come back to Breffni.

What to you think of the shamrocks run, Put-it-Up? 7 wins outta 7 is a great return. How will we fair in the championship? It'll be a big step up for these young lads.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on April 30, 2009, 01:40:46 PM
Quote from: Bongo on April 30, 2009, 12:25:02 PM
It is a shame Dermot's cavan career ended in such a fashion, but there you go, we need to move on and get a true replacement for that midfield position. Although I can't think of any options at the moment. Hopefully a few young lads will come through in the next few years.  i saw a small bit of a minor match at the weekend between Kingscourt and Ballyhaise. There was a couple of young lads who impressed me, No.8 for K'court and No.11 for B'haise (don't know their names). Big lads with plenty of skill. The type we need to be nurturing for the future.

If that news about Johnson is true, it'll be a big blow to our already feable chances. I'd say the best we could hope for realistically wud be a run in the backdoor. Hopefully I'm proven wrong. It'd be nice to see a wee bit of sucess come back to Breffni.

What to you think of the shamrocks run, Put-it-Up? 7 wins outta 7 is a great return. How will we fair in the championship? It'll be a big step up for these young lads.

I didn't know you were a Shamrocks man Bongo, great to have another one on board..haha!I know what your saying about Dermot, it was only a matter of time, but to be honest I dont think he would have started midfield for the team this year anyway. It will probably be Galligan and Walshe. His best bet of a game was on the square, I think anyway.

Personally I want to see us playing Pearson and Jelly inside and pull the other cornerforward out to play the free role..i think Cullivan would suit that role well.

Yeah, from what I have seen and heard it has been a great start to the year for the Shamrocks but i don't think championship  football is top of their priority list. They will be happy enough to get out of Division Three at the first attempt I would say. The prize of never having to use Butlersbridge's pitch again might inspire them. ;)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on April 30, 2009, 02:36:14 PM
Quote from: sams the aim on April 29, 2009, 10:30:59 PM
well it appears big dermo is gone.good bye and thanks for all d good times.always felt he cud and shud have made more of the talent he had but appeard a bit to lazy to work on his game outside of trainings and matches. But what a talent he was.yea think cavan playing antrim in lacken is it a sat or a sunday lads. rumour has it Johnston a big doubt for first round wa kept in hospital for 3 days and nights after league game.supposedly serious enough and out for a few months now.Loss would be just ridiculous and does not bear talking about really. it was in the independant the other day. any view on league games this weekend?whos playing who
After what league game? If its the Louth one,then thats bollix.He definitely wasnt kept in hospital for 3 days.As far as I know he had a slight problem but it shouldnt rule him out for too long.

It does look to be the last we will see of Big Dermot in the Royal Blue. The man has given us some of our best days and we will all fondly remember the contribution he has made to the Cavan cause since 1994.He may have been a bully to team mates at times and wanted to take every free but thats because he had such supreme confidence in himself and didnt think anybody could do it better. I will never forget the U-21s beating Meath after a replay in 1996 in Hyde Park against 6 lads who went on to win an All-Ireland Senior medals that year.
Who can forget his display in the Ulster Final in 1997 after Stephen King had to go off and being so proud when he was the only Cavan man I ever seen receiving an AllStar. His Man of the Match dispaly against the Aussies in Croke park at Full-Forward. His cameo appearance against Down at Full-Forward in 2004 was nothing short of inspiring and made Breifne Park rock like I have never seen. Cormac McAnallen RIP rated him as one the toughest opponents he ever came up against,for that alone he should be proud.
He carried our hopes for many a year and although he had his faults,we all have him to thank for being at the epicentre of all of Cavan Footballs good days in the last 15 years.
Thank you Dermot
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on April 30, 2009, 02:39:32 PM
I would not be so gloomy about our prospects this year. I expect Fermanagh to beat Down in the preliminary round - Enniskillen is a very hard place to get a win, especially against a dogged hard working team like Fermanagh. If that happens we would then have Fermanagh in Breffni. Now even in hard times I'd give us a fighting chance of turning over Fermanagh. They will probably be favorites but still we'd have a chance.
If we made it through we'd have a semi most likely against Donegal. Now Donegal are a better team than Cavan, no doubt but they are unpredictable and mentally weak. Things don't seem to be going well for them. They'd be big favorites but we could give them a game - maybe a win would be too much but there is always hope!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on April 30, 2009, 05:01:04 PM
Apparently lads, Johnston has done something to damage his kidney. A suspected rupture or something like that. Is a doubt for the championship but  i think he will play regardless
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on April 30, 2009, 09:40:40 PM
Quote from: RednBlack on April 30, 2009, 09:29:18 PM
Poor Seanie will be fine. Its just ribs and I reckon its from all the shouting!! Heard from a few players it was like a breath of fresh air in Galway last weekend with Dermo not around and Seanie out. Lads felt a freedom not experienced in a while. Dermot did give Cavan many great years of football and fair play to him. Time now for the younger brigade to step up to the plate and become the new McCabes and Kings etc. May not happen over night but a fresher panel with lads feeling they can rightfully earn a place and not just keeping an older lads jersey warm is a good thing IMO.

Thats what I was thinking but I didn't write it cos I didn't want to push Sams the Aim over the edge :D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on April 30, 2009, 09:47:25 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on April 30, 2009, 09:40:40 PM
Quote from: RednBlack on April 30, 2009, 09:29:18 PM
Poor Seanie will be fine. Its just ribs and I reckon its from all the shouting!! Heard from a few players it was like a breath of fresh air in Galway last weekend with Dermo not around and Seanie out. Lads felt a freedom not experienced in a while. Dermot did give Cavan many great years of football and fair play to him. Time now for the younger brigade to step up to the plate and become the new McCabes and Kings etc. May not happen over night but a fresher panel with lads feeling they can rightfully earn a place and not just keeping an older lads jersey warm is a good thing IMO.

Thats what I was thinking but I didn't write it cos I didn't want to push Sams the Aim over the edge :D
Ah c'mon lads. At least wait til you hear the full story in Hello. ;D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: sams the aim on May 01, 2009, 02:06:36 AM
supposedly is his kidney and is out for up to six weeks.in club game it happened.any one any ideas on club games this weekend.any more word on mc cabe?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on May 01, 2009, 08:41:02 AM
Here you go Sam-I can call you Sam can't I? ;)



Friday, 01st May 2009 @ 7.30pm
Imperial Bar A.C.F.L. Division 1
Castlerahan v Cavan Gaels
Referee: Gerry Sheridan
Killygarry v Ramor Utd
Referee: Martin Brady - Lacken

Friday, 01st May 2009 @ 7.30pm
John Brady Insurances Ltd A.C.F.L. Division 3
Butlersbridge v Ballymachugh
Referee: John Smith
Cornafean v Kildallon
Referee: Ollie Donohoe

Friday, 01st May 2009 @ 8pm
Cavan Waste Disposal Ltd A.C.F.L. Division 4 Round 5
Mullahoran v Knockbride
Referee: John Pat Martin

Saturday, 02nd May 2009 @ 3pm
John Brady Insurances Ltd A.C.F.L. Division 3
Laragh Utd v Mountnugent
Referee: Jim Hyland

Sunday, 03rd May 2009 @ 2pm
Imperial Bar A.C.F.L. Division 1
Mullahoran v Lacken
Referee: Jim Hyland
Denn v Gowna
Referee: Thomas Doonan

Sunday, 03rd May 2009 @ 2pm
John Brady Insurances Ltd A.C.F.L. Division 3
Killygarry v Arva
Referee: Kieran McCarville

Sunday, 03rd May 2009 @ 2pm
Cavan Waste Disposal Ltd A.C.F.L. Division 4 Round 5
Ballinagh v Maghera (Match in Maghera)
Referee: James Clarke
Drumlane v Kingscourt
Referee: Jim Giblin
Cuchulainns v Belturbet
Referee: Tony McDonald
Drumalee v Castlerahan
Referee: John Cassidy
Denn v Gowna (Game at 3.30pm)
Referee: Thomas Doonan

Sunday, 03rd May 2009 @ 2pm
A.C.F.L. Division 5 Round 5
Templeport v Ballyhaise
Referee: Brian Seagrave
Lacken v Drumgoon (Game at 5pm)
Referee: Margaret Farrelly
Redhills v Ramor Utd
Referee: Peter Fahy
Kildallon v Cootehill
Referee: John Emmo
Bailieboro v Laragh Utd
Referee: Ronan Bannon

Sunday, 03rd May 2009 @ 2pm
Philip Miney Meats Ltd A.C.F.L. Division 6 Round 5
Shannon Gaels v Corlough
Referee: Stephen McKiernan
Kill v Crosserlough
Referee: Ollie Henry
Cornafean v Killygarry (Game at 5pm)
Referee: Chris McCaffrey
Drung v Arva (Game at 5pm)
Referee: Eugene Tormey
Mountnugent v Mullahoran (Game at 5pm)
Referee: TP Gray
Swanlinbar v Butlersbridge
Referee: Liam Kelly
Munterconnacht v Ballymachugh
Referee: Harry Conaty
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on May 01, 2009, 10:47:58 AM
Quote from: RednBlack on May 01, 2009, 09:35:30 AM
Has anyone heard the story about Tesco in Antrim making the Under 12 GAA team remove their jerseys when bag packing because certain customers complained that they were offensive. In a time of Swine Flu, recession, growing unemployment it appears that a small minority still have the intelligence of our politicians. Certainly would colour my opinion of a chain like Tesco if they allow policy changes happen based on bigotry. Sad day

Have a look at the following threads, its being discussed at length on the board. I for one won't be giving tesco any business because of it and I'd ask everyone else to do the same...

http://gaaboard.com/board/index.php?topic=12123.180

http://gaaboard.com/board/index.php?topic=12135.15

and

http://gaaboard.com/board/index.php?topic=12130.0
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on May 01, 2009, 11:22:07 AM
would be interested to get the Tesco official line on this, if it ever comes to that. Funny enough if some young lads were doing a bag pack in my local store wearing Rangers or Linfieild tops I wouldn't be so petty as to complain, I'd just pack my own bags and give one of them a cuff on the ear on the blind side, only because in an unreconstructed bigot mind
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on May 01, 2009, 01:32:17 PM
Quote from: RednBlack on May 01, 2009, 09:17:47 AM
With Cavan playing Antrim in Lacken on their "new" pitch this weekend and a lot of games down for tonight I would be interested to see how many actually go ahead on the "old" pitches. Ours is in a terrible state and not fit for play. Pitch inspection this morning to see if it goes ahead.

Had an incident last weekend where CCC sent out a ref to inspect it before Div 6 game with Mountnugent, claimed it was playable when it was dangerous. In fairness our Chairman stood strong and pulled the plug and informed the CCC of his decision. Mountnugent traveled as noone in CCC contacted them and when they saw the pitch they also agreed it was way too dangerous for players to play.

However the CCC still go ahead and give Mountnugent the points even though both teams want to play the game and Killygarry agree to forfeit home advantage. Is this really sending the message that they are concerned for player welfare. Have since learned that the same pitch inspector "went" to Stradone a couple of weeks ago about two hours before a game and delcared the game on only for the referee to turn up and say it was in no fit state to be played on. Noone from either club was present for this "inspector" when he arrived or if he arrived!!!

Surely an officer of the club should be with the inspectors when they are on club grounds, even if just to be sure these guys do turn up.





Heard about that RNB. I also heard that your club wasn't made known of the fact until the tables were printed showing ye having lost one game more than you thought.
In fairness to Tesco I'd like to hear the full story (I've read some of it but haven't clicked on those links). I read that quite a few customers complained and so they had to take their customers' views into consideration. Not condoning or condemning anything yet-just would like to know the whole story. I do my shopping in Dunnes anyway-the difference is they're Irish ;D
Talking of games being called off I know that the Knockbride v Killeshandra game scheduled for this day week is off due to the county team bonding or the like. I'd have thought that if that reason is genuine that  a few more will follow. It makes no sense as everything is as it was in January when the fixtures were being made. It's type of shite that means that amateur players can't plan any kind of personal life around football.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: whats my name on May 01, 2009, 02:27:47 PM
was talking to a lad on the county panel and seemingly the only thing tommy carr knew of mc cabe packing it in was from the papers. carr tried to get in contact with him several times with no responce.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on May 02, 2009, 03:02:40 PM
Quote from: RednBlack on May 02, 2009, 12:37:44 PM
The real story is that Dermot sent a text to Peter Reilly last Sunday telling him that rather than travel to Headford and play Galway he was actually in Croke Park at the finals. Management had enough of it and told him go.

Sounds like he was looking for an out. Surely he would know that what he was doing would meet with only one result? Its a shame that he ended his long career like that.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on May 03, 2009, 11:56:22 AM
Thanks for the report RednBlack, hopefully heavy training has something to do with it.

Some of the posts I've been reading about Sean Johnston have got me thinking. Myles was going on a few weeks ago about Carr needing to sort him out, I reckoned at the time dropping him would be a bridge too far, with so much other stuff on the panel needing sorting out. However, the more I think about it if he continues to carry on like a prima donna whatever bit he brings to the team is nearly cancelled out by the negative impact he's having on team morale, other players etc.

So just Say Sean decides he has to go off and "find himself" again this summer, be it Chicago or Sydney, will the world stop turning on it's axis? No, In fact here is what a forward line might look like based on (reported) form, together with somebody to provide cover in each position:

Half Forward line:

Eddie Reilly (Sean Brady as cover): Might be a bit limited in certain regards but will give his all and will, hopefully, help out with some of the dirty stuff out around the middle where we may need help;

Cullivan (Lyng as cover): Again will give some help out around the middle'

Mackey (Keating): On form,

Pierson (Larry): Needs to start producing soon but we know what he can do;

Jason (Givney): On form at moment, can win the ball, can still hopefully sneak the all elusive goal and a bit of the old dog for the hard road now that Dermot, Forde are gone;

Martin Reilly (I give up now): On form, puts it in and might be one to benefit most from Seanies absence. From reading the posts on here it seems that our superstar seems to resere particular abuse for this lad. Remids me a bit of Dermots attitude to Pierce McKenna a few years ago. What is it, does he see a long term threat or is it a case of the shits because Martin played in a Sigerson final this year.


Look, hopefully Seanie cops on a lot because he would be a huge addition to our team. The forward line I've suggested above won't have Tyrone or Armagh quaking in their boots, but all I want at this stage is to see 15 lads who give 100% for the team and for each other. One of our newer posters reckons it "doesn't bear thinking about" if Seanie ain't fit for the championship-easy on the hyperbole now.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on May 03, 2009, 12:17:09 PM
From the Celt, bit of an improvement on some of the dross they have printed in the past




Useful run-out for new-look Cavan
by Paul Fitzpatrick
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Cavan midfielder Nicholas Walsh claims possession as Ray Cullivan tussles with Galway's Joe Bergin and Declan Meehan.

The concession of two first half goals put paid to Cavan's chances of beating Galway in this well-contested challenge match in rainy Headford last Sunday afternoon, but manager Tom Carr will have been reasonably pleased by his side's performance.

What will the Cavan boss have learned? The need for a freetaker is one; the necessity of varying the kick-outs another. On the plus side, Martin Reilly – in and out of the team during the league – looks a cert to be handed a starting jersey in the championship on the form he showed here last Sunday while Cian Mackey continues to show glimpses of staggering potential and will be a huge asset on the dry sod of summer if and when he regains full fitness.

Mackey it was who opened Cavan's account in the tenth minute, taking a short free from Gerald Pearson – who started very well but faded out of the game and was replaced at half-time – and curling in a sweet point with the outside of the boot.

That score, coming after a string of three wides, made it 0-2 to 0-1 after Galway raced into a lead through a Nicky Joyce brace, the first from a free.

Niall Coleman made it 0-3 to 0-1 with a free after the promising David Givney, who showed his undoubted talent over the 70 minutes but was frustratingly caught in possession on a couple of occasions, was blown for overcarrying.

Sean Brady set up the marauding John McCutcheon for a neat point from the wing in the 17th minute, but this was cancelled out by an Alan Burke score at the other end seconds later.

The first goal arrived on the 20 minute mark. Brilliant fielding by Joe Bergin at midfield launched a Galway attack which finished with Joyce burying the ball past James Reilly.

Although wearing number nine, Gareth Bradshaw – surely the tallest player on the field – lined out in the full-forward line where he had an engaging battle with robust newcomer Eoin Smith. The Killygarry man, one of the most consistent full-backs on the club scene, held his end up reasonably well however against a very awkward player.

Meanwhile at the other end of the field Jason O'Reilly, who has been in red-hot form for Belturbet in recent weeks, was proving that there's life in the old dog yet with a hardworking display. A super pass from Mackey, who carried the ball very well against the wind in the first half, found Jason in space and he swung over a sweet point to bring Cavan back to within a goal.

Good work by Mackey and Givney set up the lively Martin Reilly, who created space and fired over a nice point to make it 1-4 to 0-5 and a beautifully-weighted Givney pass to Reilly a minute later resulted in another identical point as Cavan began to seize control.

In true challenge match fashion, however, Galway struck back instantly, this time with another goal. Bradshaw received a pass, held off two defenders and fired a rocket in off the underside of the crossbar to make it 2-4 to 0-6 with four minutes left in the half.

Back came Cavan, who had struck six wides to this point. A brilliant cross-field pass from Sean Brady found Jason O'Reilly, who fired over his second point under pressure, but the hosts responded with two quick points from Bergin, who was impressive at midfield where Cavan – not helped by the tactic of sending kick-outs straight down the middle - struggled at times. A Joyce free left it 2-6 to 0-7 at the break.

Joyce started the second half with another score, holding off Padraig O'Reilly to curl in a neat effort. Despite the worsening conditions, Cavan continued to create - and, it must be said, squander - chances.

A well-struck 45 from Martin Reilly made it 2-7 to 0-8 and two minutes later the same player drove over a huge point from distance after a pass from sub Tomas Reilly.

Jason O'Reilly showed great strength to hold off a challenge and tap over his third point as Cavan began to motor, moving well but kicking three successive wides.

Spectacular fielding from Nicholas Walsh set up Mackey for a super point in the 20th minute to bring Cavan within two, and sub Ronan Flanagan cut the gap further from the next attack.

Sean Armstrong, who was well-marshalled by centre-back Eugene Keating, tapped over a free to put two between the sides again and added another from play shortly afterwards to make it 2-9 to 0-12.

Galway, having ridden out Cavan's storm, began to pour forward at this stage but the visitors' defence, where McCutcheon and Padraig O'Reilly worked hard, held out well.

A Martin Reilly free from the ground lifted the siege momentarily but Galway finished the stronger with two late points, the final one a sublime free from the wing by Armstrong.

So, a worthwhile trip west for Cavan, despite the result. The failure to score a goal again is a worry but if Cavan had taken half of the chances they created (they hit the upright three times and hit a dozen wides) they would have spoiled the party and taken the win. Still, in the week that Dermot McCabe - for reasons yet to beome clear - parted company with the panel, this was a decent antidote, with the majority of the players in good shape and showing decent form with the big test seven weeks away.

Small things, then, but cause for hope all the same.

GALWAY: Paul Doherty, Kieran Fitzgerald, David Finnegan, Damien Burke, Declan Meehan, David Reilly, Alan Burke (0-1), Gareth Bradshaw (1-0), Joe Bergin, Niall Coleman (0-1), Fiachra Breathnach, Gary O'Donnell, Matthew Clancy, Sean Armstong (0-3, 2f), Nicky Joyce (1-4, 1f)

SUB: Mark Lydon (0-1)

CAVAN: James Reilly, Keith Fannin, Michael Hannon, Eoin Smith, John McCutcheon (0-1), Eugene Keating, Padraig O'Reilly, David Givney, Nicholas Walsh, Sean Brady, Ray Cullivan, Cian Mackey (0-2), Martin Reilly (0-5, 1f, 1 45), Jason O'Reilly (0-3), Ger Pearson

SUBS: Tomas Reilly, Ronan Flanagan (0-1), Gearoid McKiernan, Fintan Reilly
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on May 05, 2009, 12:41:29 PM
So we lost to Antrim...just wonderful!

What 15 Cavan players lost to the might of the Saffrons?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on May 05, 2009, 01:45:18 PM
Team I heard was...

Fintan Reilly
Rory Dunne
Dermot Sheridan
Eoin Smith
Padraic O'Reilly
Eugene Keating
Thomas Reilly
Ciaran Galligan
Raymond Cullivan
Cian Mackey
Micheal Lyng
Ronan Flanagan
Jason Reilly
Eddie Reilly
Gerard Pierson

with Sean Brady, Martin Reilly, Givney, Larry, Walsh, Mulvey and Fannin all coming on.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on May 05, 2009, 03:52:33 PM
Wouldnt pay much heed into Challenge games, Id be confident we could take Antrim home or away in the Championship.
I hope Carr isnt going to do a Keoghan and start Tomas Reily in the Championship,
Hes a class act and is undoubtedly a future County Senior,But i have my doubts whether hed be up to the pace having played no competitive games for the Seniors this year yet.

Wonderful day for Ballyhaise yesterday as our Minors won the Division 1 league,The first top flight minor success in the clubs history.
Great achievement for such a small catchment area. Hopefully Kevin Tierney and Aidan Moran continue their fine form for the County Minors as they were both magnificant yesterday.

I know AngloCelt and some of you will probably kill me,But i think this years Minor team is going to do well .It will certainly contribute a fair few senior county players in the next 2-3 years.

Packie Leddy
Barry Reily
Kevin Tierney for definite.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Drung on May 05, 2009, 05:14:43 PM
Congrats BallyhaiseMan. Great for a new club to emerge and beat the big boys.
Yes, the minors look to have a good team if the manager gets it right - a succession haven't, with equally good teams.
What I'm hearing doesn't instil confidence.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on May 05, 2009, 05:18:37 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on May 05, 2009, 03:52:33 PM
Wouldnt pay much heed into Challenge games, Id be confident we could take Antrim home or away in the Championship.
I hope Carr isnt going to do a Keoghan and start Tomas Reily in the Championship,
Hes a class act and is undoubtedly a future County Senior,But i have my doubts whether hed be up to the pace having played no competitive games for the Seniors this year yet.

Wonderful day for Ballyhaise yesterday as our Minors won the Division 1 league,The first top flight minor success in the clubs history.
Great achievement for such a small catchment area. Hopefully Kevin Tierney and Aidan Moran continue their fine form for the County Minors as they were both magnificant yesterday.

I know AngloCelt and some of you will probably kill me,But i think this years Minor team is going to do well .It will certainly contribute a fair few senior county players in the next 2-3 years.

Packie Leddy
Barry Reily
Kevin Tierney for definite.

Who did ya's beat in the final BHM? Congratulations anyway, its a great achievement.

I will agree with you on those three names from the minors you mentioned - they will all go on to play senior with the county but to be honest I think this year's team is fairly limited. They are in great hands with Mickey, who I believe will eventually be the senior boss, but last year's county minor team was alot stronger. Would you not agree? Alot of players on this years team are very average, though I do appreciate they are a hardworkin bunch.Have seen this year's team play twice and have not been overly impressed, though nothing would make me happier than seeing them peak when it matters


Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: whats my name on May 05, 2009, 05:58:38 PM
i cant see tomas reilly making the seniors i hope he proves me wrong but he didnt even start for the u-21s this year in the championship when lads younger then him did like geroid mc kiernan and maloney derham. also i dont even think he can make the sligo sigerson team. i agree he has talent but not enough for inter county.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: whats my name on May 05, 2009, 06:02:56 PM
good win red and black this weekend for your division 3 team you's might stay up yet who played well for you's?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on May 05, 2009, 06:57:29 PM
Quote from: Drung on May 05, 2009, 05:14:43 PM
Congrats BallyhaiseMan. Great for a new club to emerge and beat the big boys.
Yes, the minors look to have a good team if the manager gets it right - a succession haven't, with equally good teams.
What I'm hearing doesn't instil confidence.
I'm sure Arva & Killeshandra will thank you for calling them the big boys. I didn't make the game as I'd hoped but heard that St.Joseph's kicked a lot of bad wides but that Tierney was class.
Quote from: whats my name on May 05, 2009, 05:58:38 PM
i cant see tomas reilly making the seniors i hope he proves me wrong but he didnt even start for the u-21s this year in the championship when lads younger then him did like geroid mc kiernan and maloney derham. also i dont even think he can make the sligo sigerson team. i agree he has talent but not enough for inter county.
A little birdie told me that Carr informed Tomás O'Reilly that he wouldn't be starting for the U-21s against Down but that he had impressed and that he might called up to the seniors ??? At least he was true to his word.
IMO he has all the ability in the world but he might never make it due to his temperament. He'd push Jelly hard for stropping from what I've seen and heard.
Here's hoping though.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dannymcfella on May 07, 2009, 03:02:07 PM
Hi there folks,

With the championship just around the corner, from now on in you will see various fantasy football competitions springing up, myself and a few other memebrs of our club have taken it upon ourselves to run a competition of our own as a fundraiser. Hopefully we will get alot of interest in it, weve kept the entry fee reasonably low, its a pretty straight forward competition, all the rules, scoring chart, and player lists ect can be found on our website, so why not have a nosey at it. I hope when you are deciding upon which of the competitions available to enter you will give us a thought, we may not have a flashy website with all the graphics, but in entering this competition, you will be supporting one of youre very own clubs. If you have any queries about the competition you can email me at clannnabanna@hotmail.co.uk

To view the competition just log on to clannnabanna.down.gaa.ie and click on the competitions link


PM me any queries
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on May 07, 2009, 03:31:52 PM
Maghera are doing very poor in Division 4
Theres only one relegated,They are lucky a desperately poor Drumlane team is there alongside them,or they might be heading to Division 5.  :o
RednBlack have your 2nd team played Corlough yet?
I think that could be a relegation decider.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: the salmon of knowledge on May 07, 2009, 07:29:18 PM
to be fair when our lads(mountnugent) drew against killygarry i said to anyone who would care to listen that killygarry would win a few games along the way. they got off to a bad start but i dont think they will be relegated, corlough look to be in serious bother at the minute.
ye might laugh, but div 4 is a horrible place for maghera to go.  alot of good teams to play and alot of teams would struggle from div 3 i think.
just to let any of ye poker players out there know, hibernan poker is running a texas holdem classic in aid of mountnugent gfc in the ceile house hotel in oldcastle on the 22 of may. 40e to enter with 2x 20e rebuys. it starts at 9pm, so if anyone would like to play please come ahead!
thanks!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on May 07, 2009, 08:44:27 PM
Quote from: Lawrence of Knockbride on May 05, 2009, 06:57:29 PM
Quote from: Drung on May 05, 2009, 05:14:43 PM
Congrats BallyhaiseMan. Great for a new club to emerge and beat the big boys.
Yes, the minors look to have a good team if the manager gets it right - a succession haven't, with equally good teams.
What I'm hearing doesn't instil confidence.
I'm sure Arva & Killeshandra will thank you for calling them the big boys. I didn't make the game as I'd hoped but heard that St.Joseph's kicked a lot of bad wides but that Tierney was class.
Quote from: whats my name on May 05, 2009, 05:58:38 PM
i cant see tomas reilly making the seniors i hope he proves me wrong but he didnt even start for the u-21s this year in the championship when lads younger then him did like geroid mc kiernan and maloney derham. also i dont even think he can make the sligo sigerson team. i agree he has talent but not enough for inter county.
A little birdie told me that Carr informed Tomás O'Reilly that he wouldn't be starting for the U-21s against Down but that he had impressed and that he might called up to the seniors ??? At least he was true to his word.
IMO he has all the ability in the world but he might never make it due to his temperament. He'd push Jelly hard for stropping from what I've seen and heard.

Lawrence just to take you up on that point about Tomas Reilly and this is not directed at you but it just raised some serious questions in my mind because I also heard that story about Tomas;.

How could Carr say I'v been really impressed with you and you might get a call-up to the seniors soon but your not startin with the U21's?That raises serious questions to me about his management.
So he sees him good enough to be involved with the seniors but not start with the U21's...Does that mean Daniel Graham, James McEnroe and Barry Watters are in with the Seniors, because Carr picked them ahead of Tomas to start the game.

Now I know Barry is strugglin with injuries but the other two are nowhere near the seniors and probably never will be, so if Carr thinks so highly of Tomas, why the bloody hell was he not playing?

Smells of politics if you ask me...

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on May 08, 2009, 08:39:09 AM
Quote from: RednBlack on May 07, 2009, 09:32:55 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on May 07, 2009, 03:31:52 PM
Maghera are doing very poor in Division 4
Theres only one relegated,They are lucky a desperately poor Drumlane team is there alongside them,or they might be heading to Division 5.  :o
RednBlack have your 2nd team played Corlough yet?
I think that could be a relegation decider.
No BHM didn't play yet. Will go a long way to deciding who drops alright. Heard the CCC threw out the clubs appeal over the Mountnugent Div 6 game as they had already published the table showing us losing two points and that Mountnugent didn't write tot hem saying they agree to replay it at their venue. Beggars belief the beurocracy with them at times. The pitch was dangerous and Mountnugent agreed it would be mad to play on it.

Last night the pitch was even worse and the ref told the lads "sure we will give it 10 minutes and see how it goes". A mud bath was the only way to describe it and the ball didn't hop once. Not a damn given about player welfare.
Bravo indeed to the county board. Once it's in print it ought not to be changed like the Fixtures times & venues and the master fixtures plan. Can anyone (outsided the county board) explain why, if TC wants to have a bonding weekend in Donegal for the county players, and wants all club fixtures postponed this weekend why most of them weren't shifted to last weekend when the majority of teams weren't playing? What we have now is the possibility of midweek games and players not being able to plan around fixtures as they don't know when they are.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: the salmon of knowledge on May 08, 2009, 04:47:13 PM
Quote from: RednBlack on May 07, 2009, 09:32:55 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on May 07, 2009, 03:31:52 PM
Maghera are doing very poor in Division 4
Theres only one relegated,They are lucky a desperately poor Drumlane team is there alongside them,or they might be heading to Division 5.  :o
RednBlack have your 2nd team played Corlough yet?
I think that could be a relegation decider.
No BHM didn't play yet. Will go a long way to deciding who drops alright. Heard the CCC threw out the clubs appeal over the Mountnugent Div 6 game as they had already published the table showing us losing two points and that Mountnugent didn't write tot hem saying they agree to replay it at their venue. Beggars belief the beurocracy with them at times. The pitch was dangerous and Mountnugent agreed it would be mad to play on it.

Last night the pitch was even worse and the ref told the lads "sure we will give it 10 minutes and see how it goes". A mud bath was the only way to describe it and the ball didn't hop once. Not a damn given about player welfare.



i walked the pitch that morning with some killygarry lads, to be honest red and black it was fine. not bone dry by any means but where is?? the fact of the matter there was a full team of our lads there with 15 mins to throw in and not 1 killygarry player??? fishy no?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on May 08, 2009, 05:22:27 PM
Lawrence just to take you up on that point about Tomas Reilly and this is not directed at you but it just raised some serious questions in my mind because I also heard that story about Tomas;.

How could Carr say I'v been really impressed with you and you might get a call-up to the seniors soon but your not startin with the U21's?That raises serious questions to me about his management.
So he sees him good enough to be involved with the seniors but not start with the U21's...Does that mean Daniel Graham, James McEnroe and Barry Watters are in with the Seniors, because Carr picked them ahead of Tomas to start the game.

Now I know Barry is strugglin with injuries but the other two are nowhere near the seniors and probably never will be, so if Carr thinks so highly of Tomas, why the bloody hell was he not playing?

Smells of politics if you ask me...

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on May 08, 2009, 07:00:25 PM
Quote from: put-it-up on May 08, 2009, 05:22:27 PM
Lawrence just to take you up on that point about Tomas Reilly and this is not directed at you but it just raised some serious questions in my mind because I also heard that story about Tomas;.

How could Carr say I'v been really impressed with you and you might get a call-up to the seniors soon but your not startin with the U21's?That raises serious questions to me about his management.
So he sees him good enough to be involved with the seniors but not start with the U21's...Does that mean Daniel Graham, James McEnroe and Barry Watters are in with the Seniors, because Carr picked them ahead of Tomas to start the game.

Now I know Barry is strugglin with injuries but the other two are nowhere near the seniors and probably never will be, so if Carr thinks so highly of Tomas, why the bloody hell was he not playing?

Smells of politics if you ask me...



what  ??????
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on May 10, 2009, 08:43:56 PM
I see our hurlers came very close to a first win in the Ulster championship, losing by 1 point away to Fermanagh. It would be nice for them to get some reward for what must be a tough station. There does seem to be some progress there though. Anyone hear how the team bonding weekend went?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on May 11, 2009, 11:49:12 AM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on May 10, 2009, 08:43:56 PM
Anyone hear how the team bonding weekend went?

Was McKeever there? :P
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on May 11, 2009, 12:28:01 PM
Cavan drew with Westmeath down in Mullingar at the weekend. Haven't hear teams or anything, but apparently they played quite well.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: whats my name on May 11, 2009, 02:54:25 PM
i was at the game in mullingar the team that started was fintain reilly,hannon,sheridan,brides,mc cutheon,keating,podge,galligan,walsh,sean brady,mackey,lyng,larry,jason,martain reilly. they played very well could have one it but the defence is a major problem anytime the ball comes near them your on edge they cant cope with high ball and its a major worry coming to championship.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Western Blue on May 11, 2009, 10:49:47 PM
Since Dermot McCabe 'hung up his boots' the team seem to be playing better football despite the losses against Galway/Westmeath in the knowledge that his dressing room influence is not a treat? As I see it, the defence in the games to date are tryinghard and are under pressure but we just don't have the quality defenders in the county now or in the last 10 years , which is a pity as we are getting 50/50 ball in midfield and the forwards  capable of roasting any opposition this summer. Fingers crossed we can be a surprise in Ulster this summer!!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on May 12, 2009, 08:01:24 AM
Quote from: Western Blue on May 11, 2009, 10:49:47 PM
Since Dermot McCabe 'hung up his boots' the team seem to be playing better football despite the losses against Galway/Westmeath in the knowledge that his dressing room influence is not a treat? As I see it, the defence in the games to date are tryinghard and are under pressure but we just don't have the quality defenders in the county now or in the last 10 years , which is a pity as we are getting 50/50 ball in midfield and the forwards  capable of roasting any opposition this summer. Fingers crossed we can be a surprise in Ulster this summer!!

Agreed, but if we couldf unearth a FB in the next year or two there would be hope. Our FB line is nervous, our corner backs have one eye on their man and one eye on the high ball in as the have no confidence that our FB can deal with it. Maybe in a year or two Dunne will get a bit stronger and do a job for us there. The last 2 decent FB's we had were big strong men (Ciaran Brady and Damian Reilly), we need another. I suppose we can't say carr has not tried to resolve the issue. He's Given Podge a decent amount of games, then Dermot Shierdan and than Eoin Smith (belatedly). I fancy Sheiridan to start the 1st game, get a rough ride and to be replaced by Smith!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Drung on May 12, 2009, 09:44:14 AM
QuoteHe's Given Podge a decent amount of games, then Dermot Shierdan and than Eoin Smith (belatedly

Eoin Smith has only played about two or three challenge matches.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on May 12, 2009, 09:55:29 AM
Quote from: Drung on May 12, 2009, 09:44:14 AM
QuoteHe's Given Podge a decent amount of games, then Dermot Shierdan and than Eoin Smith (belatedly

Eoin Smith has only played about two or three challenge matches.

I know - thats why I put "belatedly" at the end of  the sentence, i.e. he didn't try him early enough.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on May 12, 2009, 02:49:28 PM
Any truth in rumour of Killygarry playing illegal player(s) against Arva and Butlersbridge rednblack?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on May 12, 2009, 03:10:15 PM
Quote from: RednBlack on May 12, 2009, 02:56:21 PM
Quote from: cavan4ever on May 12, 2009, 02:49:28 PM
Any truth in rumour of Killygarry playing illegal player(s) against Arva and Butlersbridge rednblack?
Haven't heard anything but having been at both games and knowing who played all are members so would say its a rumour. What did you hear or whats been said?

It was a fellow that plays for Bridge that told me.  They have it that Killygarry played someone they shouldnt have against Arva and themselves.  Arva are suposed to be appealing to county board about it but Bridge arent because they won.   Someone from their first 12 is what i was told. 
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Drung on May 12, 2009, 03:43:26 PM
Eoin is a good footballer, but let's be serious - he's no Darren Fay. The attitude on here is that he will solve all of Cavan's defensive problems, but he won't. If he improves quite a bit  - which he could well a lot of players do when they get on a county panel  - and grows into the role, he'll do well. But that's a big if.

He is no better than Hannon, Dunne etc. Of course, he is also no worse and is probably worth his place on the panel, but he has had a couple of games and hasn't set the world alight with high fielding or big hits or any of the rest that rightly or wrongly we tend to associate with the traditional full-back.
Plus, he is injury prone. And the last thing we need is another defender with dodgy hamstrings/knees/head [insert here]...

QuoteTed has got all of about 45 minutes to impress TC at FB. He has been mostly played int he corner. He has also just done his hamstring so God knows when he will be back.

Red n Black, in the current era, where teams often play two players inside instead of three, the positions are evry much inter-changeable.
Ted marked a Bradshaw lad who was way over six foot against Galway according to the report I read, so even if he wasn't wearing number three, he can rest assured that he got his aerial ability round the square and all of the other traits you need in a full back tested.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on May 12, 2009, 04:16:40 PM
Quote from: RednBlack on May 12, 2009, 03:54:30 PM
Quote from: cavan4ever on May 12, 2009, 03:10:15 PM
Quote from: RednBlack on May 12, 2009, 02:56:21 PM
Quote from: cavan4ever on May 12, 2009, 02:49:28 PM
Any truth in rumour of Killygarry playing illegal player(s) against Arva and Butlersbridge rednblack?
Haven't heard anything but having been at both games and knowing who played all are members so would say its a rumour. What did you hear or whats been said?

It was a fellow that plays for Bridge that told me.  They have it that Killygarry played someone they shouldnt have against Arva and themselves.  Arva are suposed to be appealing to county board about it but Bridge arent because they won.   Someone from their first 12 is what i was told. 

Not true. One lad who played was originally on the first 12 back at start of year but got moved off it long ago. They are probably going by the list published in the blue book but as we all know that is out of date as soon as it is published!!!

I didnt think it would be a stunt a club would play in division 3 anyway. 
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: whats my name on May 12, 2009, 04:29:03 PM
i was at the westmeath game and eoin smith came on for hannon and i was actually surprised by the way he played he won the ball off his man 3 times when it was played into him and dispossessed a man for a half a goal chance i thought he gave a good account of himself
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on May 12, 2009, 05:22:53 PM
Quote from: Drung on May 12, 2009, 03:43:26 PM
Eoin is a good footballer, but let's be serious - he's no Darren Fay. The attitude on here is that he will solve all of Cavan's defensive problems, but he won't. If he improves quite a bit  - which he could well a lot of players do when they get on a county panel  - and grows into the role, he'll do well. But that's a big if.

He is no better than Hannon, Dunne etc. Of course, he is also no worse and is probably worth his place on the panel, but he has had a couple of games and hasn't set the world alight with high fielding or big hits or any of the rest that rightly or wrongly we tend to associate with the traditional full-back.Plus, he is injury prone. And the last thing we need is another defender with dodgy hamstrings/knees/head [insert here]...

QuoteTed has got all of about 45 minutes to impress TC at FB. He has been mostly played int he corner. He has also just done his hamstring so God knows when he will be back.

Red n Black, in the current era, where teams often play two players inside instead of three, the positions are evry much inter-changeable.
Ted marked a Bradshaw lad who was way over six foot against Galway according to the report I read, so even if he wasn't wearing number three, he can rest assured that he got his aerial ability round the square and all of the other traits you need in a full back tested.
Your commenting on Ted Smith from the reports you read?? I dont think your in any position to judge the lads 2 performances from reading about them. How do you know if he didnt set the world alight? You will find very few Full-backs in Ireland who set the world alight anyway.
Come Championship I think our 2 corner backs should be Michael Hannon and Keith Fannin and I would be very happy with them two men there. Full-Back is a toss of a coin between 3 or 4.
Eoin Smith seems to be very unlucky with injuries.I dont think he goes a full year injury free.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on May 12, 2009, 09:10:39 PM
So have the county team any further challenges lined up for the coming weeks.

Getting near the time to have a stab at the championship team. Heres mine for what its worth...


James Reilly (has he been in goals since being dropped against Louth?)
Hannon
Sheridan
Fannin
McCutcheon
Flanagan
Brady
Galligan
Walsh
Lyng
Cullivan
Mackey
Johnstone
Pierson
Givney (3rd midfielder)

A lot of lads on the bench that would expect a game too.

I think thats the best we have but on paper looks fairly weak. Should be a fit, athletic enough team though.



Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on May 12, 2009, 09:29:51 PM
You have two teams named there myles but i presume the one with James in goals is your championship team.  Alot of them lads have been around for a long time and   hopefully they will give us something to shout about.  Id say Martin Reilly is a cert to start though for Givney but other than that your prob not far away.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on May 12, 2009, 09:48:00 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on May 12, 2009, 09:10:39 PM
So have the county team any further challenges lined up for the coming weeks.

Getting near the time to have a stab at the championship team. Heres mine for what its worth...

fintain reilly,hannon,sheridan,brides,mc cutheon,keating,podge,galligan,walsh,sean brady,mackey,lyng,larry,jason,martain reilly

James Reilly (has he been in goals since being dropped against Louth?)
Hannon
Sheridan
Fannin
McCutcheon
Flanagan
Brady
Galligan
Walsh
Lyng
Cullivan
Mackey
Johnstone
Pierson
Givney (3rd midfielder)

A lot of lads on the bench that would expect a game too.

I think thats the best we have but on paper looks fairly weak. Should be a fit, athletic enough team though.




Opinions and all that Myles, but I'd say you have about as much chance of starting as Givney ;). I'd say you could swap Lyng & Cullivan and Gunner & Flanagan position wise and you wouldn't be too far off. What's the craic with CHB? He's tried Sean Brady and now Keating there (a couple of times) when it's one of the few positions we have had a number of good displays in form Brady and Flanagan.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: whats my name on May 12, 2009, 10:31:49 PM
wel first of all i dont think piearson will be starting he is having bad problems with his hamstring.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: whats my name on May 12, 2009, 10:34:05 PM
and Lawrence of Knockbride you could lay off on one of my relations please as he hasnt done anything wrong.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on May 12, 2009, 10:46:22 PM
My thinking on Givney being a 3rd midfielder is that two smallish forwards need space. Fermanagh (who I believe are likely to beat Down) will crowd out defence and ctr field. We'll need to make space in the forwards and have ball winners in the middle. I suppose Sean Brady could play for Givney in this scenario. Martin Reilly has showed well in challenge games and with DIT but was poor in the league from what I saw. He works hard no doubt and has a great attitude but is a bit small and needs to bulk up. He might just loose out. Givney or Brady give us the option of a big FF or 3rd midfielder.
Brady was very poor at ctr back versus Louth. Flanagan will play a sweeping role there to protect our dodgy FB line, I can't see that not happening. Lyng will be lucky to get his place as he has not done much this year. I think Cullivan up the middle is a better option. Keating could easily get in there for Lyng.

Whats your team Lawrence and please don't put me in there, I don't have the legs for it anymore.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: the salmon of knowledge on May 12, 2009, 11:36:57 PM
i reckon it lines itself out apart from the no 12, 14 and 15 shirts from the team myles lined out.
mckeevers omission from the panel is really highlighted when you see a probable cavan team on paper for the champ, pity...
i know this might vex some on here, but given johnstone and mackey are defo starters, can we afford another man of slight build, ie martin reilly?? i seriously would worry about being overpowered.
has lyng done enough?? or should keating get the nod, carr seems to like him
does givney start? plain and simple i really dont have a clue, it will depend on who the opposition is perhaps.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on May 13, 2009, 08:37:38 AM
Quote from: whats my name on May 12, 2009, 10:34:05 PM
and Lawrence of Knockbride you could lay off on one of my relations please as he hasnt done anything wrong.
Lay off him? All I said was I think he has very little chance of starting. Subtle family drop though. This family of yours isn't a mafia thing is it? :o
Myles, don't be so self-degrading-you've a few weeks to sharpen up yet. I posted my team before the Louth game but I forget it now. Something like:

1.Miller
2.Fanin
3.Sheridan
4.Hannon
5.McCutcheon
6.Gunner
7.Dunne
8.Galligan
9.Walsh
10.Mackey
11.Lyng
12.Cullivan
13.Johnston
14.(Might have had McCabe here
15Pierson

It doesn't look like he's going to go with Dunne at WHB even though he was outstanding there against Offaly and good against Roscommon. Maybe Cullivan to FF with Keating/Sean Brady/Martin Reilly on the wing.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: whats my name on May 13, 2009, 09:21:01 AM
wel first of all wer not in the mafia so your ok lawrence and i think you should have flanigan in the team somewhere seen as he is the captain and is playing well.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4sam on May 13, 2009, 10:04:07 AM
Lads just aquick line to inform you that the Gunner isn't going to be around for the first round of the championshp as he is away playing handball in the states or somewhere, world doubles or something I think. I would love to have him at centre back especialy if he was able to play it as well as he did against Roscommon in the league. Apparently Keating is now the favourite to start in that position. He is a good player but I don't think this is the time to start in there, I would rather see my own clubman get the nod in that position as he has played it many times before and I don't think either Down or Fermanagh are really that powerful so i feel he would cope in that aspect. He can really dictate the game from there so I'd like to see him there.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on May 13, 2009, 11:48:26 AM
Is Jelly not struggling with injuries???
as everyone knows im a big fan of Givney,But i still question whether he has the speed at this time in his career for Senior Championship football.
Cant remember ever seeing Eugene Keating play Centre Back in any game ive seen him,in Vocational Schools,Minor etc.
If Eoin Smith isnt fit to go at full back,
The Fullback line in my opinion should be
Hannon Sheridan Fannin.

But Carr seems to prefer Brides to Fannin,for whatever reason, Wouldnt be suprised to see him get the nod over the drumgoon man.
McCutcheon and Flanagan for me are certs in the half back line,If Keating is put in at CHB,Rory Dunne could be the one to lose out.

Midfield will be Walsh and Galligan barring injury.

Forwards,difficult to pick due to injury problems to Jelly and Gerald.
if Both or one were injured,i think Carr would go with Cullivan/Givney at Full Forward.
If both are there, a Pierson,Jelly,Martin Reily full forward line is likely with the Killygarry man,dropping deeper to leave a two man full forward line.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on May 13, 2009, 12:06:09 PM
Lads I honestly feel if Keating started CHB we are in serious trouble. He is too attack-minded and every time I've seen him play the defensive side if the game does not interest him. If he is going to get playing, it should be as a forward.

James Reilly will certainly be in goals but it is quite obvious places are still up for grabs in the fullback line. Killygarry's Eoin Smith is an option but he would be a gamble. Dermot Sheridan is most likely to wear number three on his back but Rory Dunne might just have something to say about that.

New Captain Ronan Flanagan will more than likely feature in the wing-back line although there is an option to deploy him as a forward. Paul Brady, will be at number six, while John McCutcheon, arguably Cavan's most improved players this year to get the nod to start. If Brady was unavailable, I would prob go with Podge at CB to hold the centre. Or move Fla in and put Dunne on the wing.

At midfield Ciaran Galligan looks a definite. Lorcan Mulvey failed to shine during the league campaign as did Nicolas Walsh. Due to his expierience Walsh will prob get the nod but he has a lot to prove.

The forward spots are the most keenly contested which is good news for us. Cian Mackey has been in superb form all year and if Martin Reilly and Mickey Lyng can pea, there will be plenty of scores and creativity coming from that line.

Seanie Johnston is a must. Yes, his attitude has been poor this year but an on from 'Jelly' is priceless in championship football. There are few better people in the country to put a ball over the bar under pressure. Alongside him I would leave to see Ger Pierson in the mix with Ray Cullivan playing 14 but been giving license to roam out the field and help out in the midfield section. On top of giving us another natural fielder of the ball at centre-field this will also leave space for the two sharpshooters inside to wreak havoc. Then with ten minutes to go, introduce Larry the Legend to swing over a score and send the Breffni supporters wild. ;) :D

Ah....let the football begin!

My Cavan 15 for championship:
James Reilly
Mickey Hannon
Dermot Sheridan
Eoin Smith
Ronan Flanagan
Paul Brady (if available)
John McCutcheon
Ciaran Galligan
Nicolas Walsh
Martin Reilly
Mickey Lyng
Cian Mackey
Seanie Johnston
Ray Cullivan
Ger Pierson - although Jayo is meant to be flying at the minute
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on May 13, 2009, 01:08:20 PM
Paul Brady Out with Handball
Eoin Smith Out??? with Hamstring pull(Rednblack confirmed this didnt he? )
Jelly struggling with injury
Pierson struggling with injuries

The team we start against Fermanagh/Down will probably be very different to what any of us have picked.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on May 13, 2009, 01:24:23 PM
Yes I heard Jelly is struggling and wont feature in any challenge games but he should be ok for the championship opener.

I think Jayo is coming right at the minute and will start in the FF line.

Gunner is a big big loss
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on May 13, 2009, 01:27:25 PM
Quote from: whats my name on May 13, 2009, 09:21:01 AM
wel first of all wer not in the mafia so your ok lawrence and i think you should have flanigan in the team somewhere seen as he is the captain and is playing well.
I knew I shouldn't have tried to remember. Maybe I had him at wing-forward with Cullivan FF. Sorry, can't remember. Where's Hollow Man when you want a bit of archivin done.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4sam on May 13, 2009, 01:32:58 PM
Jelly is apparently training by himself but is not getting involved in any contact, he will be available for the championship game though.

Keating played CHB for most of league last year for Cuchulainns and I think the reason they like him there is because he has excellent distribution. He does neglect his defensive duties, as pointed out, and that is why I would not like him there in the championship.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: the salmon of knowledge on May 13, 2009, 04:08:01 PM
good to see ya standing up for your "relations" WMN i even seen you stand up for your neighbour a few weeks ago on the pitch, even tho he needed no help ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on May 13, 2009, 04:11:51 PM
Can you post the names of all your relations WMN just incase you get upset again if someone comments about them ?


:D :D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on May 13, 2009, 04:23:58 PM
BHM, and others that have the benefit of normal jobs that allow you go to the odd match, can you fill me in a little on Cullivan?

It's been quite a while since I saw him play, pre-injury for the seniors and 21s, but any time I have I'm left wondering what all the fuss has been about. I've never seen him do anything to warrant the expectation on his shoulders. Have the games I've gone to happened to coincide with his off-days or is there substance to a suspicion he might not be as good at the top level as we'd all hoped?

Not chucking a grenade to start a row now, just an honest question coming with the admission that I don't get to see many games unfortunately...
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: whats my name on May 13, 2009, 04:36:43 PM
cavan4ever i can rember you getting annoyed about sumthing that was said about a drung player at a county game.  ;)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on May 13, 2009, 04:40:45 PM
Quote from: whats my name on May 13, 2009, 04:36:43 PM
cavan4ever i can rember you getting annoyed about sumthing that was said about a drung player at a county game.  ;)

I did but starting mentioning relations is funny.  Next thing there will be lads challenged to fights for saying something about someone  :D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on May 13, 2009, 04:45:23 PM
Quote from: cavanmaniac on May 13, 2009, 04:23:58 PM
BHM, and others that have the benefit of normal jobs that allow you go to the odd match, can you fill me in a little on Cullivan?

It's been quite a while since I saw him play, pre-injury for the seniors and 21s, but any time I have I'm left wondering what all the fuss has been about. I've never seen him do anything to warrant the expectation on his shoulders. Have the games I've gone to happened to coincide with his off-days or is there substance to a suspicion he might not be as good at the top level as we'd all hoped?

Not chucking a grenade to start a row now, just an honest question coming with the admission that I don't get to see many games unfortunately...

No its an honest question Maniac,
Id counter with that Ray has only played One championship game against Down, and needs experience at IC championship level
Hes been seen as being one of the great young hopes of Cavan football.
He starred at midfield for our Minors who won Division Two league at barely 14,roasting players who were on the county minor team that year.
He was terrific underage,eventually captaining his country at under 17 level.
Ray is in essence a natural midfielder,but unfortunately at 5'11 is maybe a few inches short for it at inter county level.
When you're up against men at 6'5 like the Corks of this world have, having a midfielder of 6'2 barely suffices never mind 5'11.
He has all the skills, Awesome strength,passing ability and best of all his Fielding ability which is out of this world,His only two weaknesses are possibly speed and sometimes his shooting can be erratic.
Like all players hes had off days, Down and Antrim in Minor two different years,
And he wasnt great against Down on his debut at senior.
But myself and some of the other lads who see him and play with him and against him frequently throughout the year know how talented he is.
Its why hes so highly rated in the county.
Id like to see him played at Full Forward at IC Level to be honest,where his strength and fielding ability could be put to great use.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on May 13, 2009, 05:08:27 PM
I thought cullivan was an outstanding prospect when he came on the senior scene in his 1st year in the league. He played some great games. He seems to have bulked up muscle wise but has that slowed him down a bit? He is still young so maybe we expect too much too soon.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: whats my name on May 13, 2009, 05:09:42 PM
lets just forget about it who cares cavan4ever lets talk football
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on May 13, 2009, 05:17:58 PM
Quote from: whats my name on May 13, 2009, 05:09:42 PM
lets just forget about it who cares cavan4ever lets talk football

Your the boss  8)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Drung on May 13, 2009, 06:08:22 PM
QuoteHe starred at midfield for our Minors who won Division Two league at barely 14,roasting players who were on the county minor team that year

He totally outplayed one of the best 17/18 year olds in Cavan when he was still Under 14?
What game was this?? Just curious to know, not disputing it...
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on May 13, 2009, 09:49:56 PM
Quote from: Drung on May 13, 2009, 06:08:22 PM
QuoteHe starred at midfield for our Minors who won Division Two league at barely 14,roasting players who were on the county minor team that year

He totally outplayed one of the best 17/18 year olds in Cavan when he was still Under 14?
What game was this?? Just curious to know, not disputing it...

Two actually
your own clubman
Ciaran Galligan was one of them,You were joined up with Kill as St Finbars for that one.
Dermot McGlade on Cormore Gaels was the other one.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on May 14, 2009, 10:13:00 AM
There are alot of players on the Cavan Panel who havent really stood up and done it on the big day.  Hoping to at least get by the first round this year, fed up off moral victories.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Drung on May 14, 2009, 11:50:27 AM
That is impressive about Cullivan.
He wouldn't have been barely 14 when Ciaran Galligan was a county minor though.
Dermot McGlade was a very good minor in 2002 as far as I remember. You're right, Cullivan would have been in his last year U14 that year I think.
It could be that the reason he has suffered from injuries and hasn't fulfilled his potential is that some clown played him at minor level when he was 14. That's disgraceful in my opinion.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on May 14, 2009, 12:58:30 PM
Thats the way every good young footballer is treated.  Barry Watters is no different, and i see he is back on county now.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on May 14, 2009, 01:08:41 PM
Quote from: Drung on May 14, 2009, 11:50:27 AM
That is impressive about Cullivan.
He wouldn't have been barely 14 when Ciaran Galligan was a county minor though.
Dermot McGlade was a very good minor in 2002 as far as I remember. You're right, Cullivan would have been in his last year U14 that year I think.
It could be that the reason he has suffered from injuries and hasn't fulfilled his potential is that some clown played him at minor level when he was 14. That's disgraceful in my opinion.

Theres no doubt hes played an awful lot of football already and hes only 20/21.
He Trains harder than most county players aswell so ive been told by some of his DCU Academy Collegues.
Hes nearly never away from a football or the gym.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: offthebeatentrack on May 14, 2009, 02:39:13 PM
There have been numerous players who have played out of their level and have played so much football that they burnout by their early 20's. This is an unfortunate situation. Clubs and Counties want to do well and will pick and play their best players at that given time, no matter what age bracket they lie in, IMO! I believe, especially underage players should only play in their age group. However alot of these players want to play in the older age groups especially if they are making their place and playing well. It happens in every county and it is one of the reasons player burnout should be looked at. In a given year a player might be playing, club U21, and senior, college football and Intercounty football. This is too much football in one season and the body needs a break especially as playing competitive football is so tough!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on May 14, 2009, 07:56:08 PM
Report from Celt on W'meath match, they do seem to be improving (the Celt that is). Very interesting chat about the possible line up for championship. Can't add much I'm afraid but somebody's comment that we can't afford to have too many lads who are a bit small in stature in the forward did stick out, this has been a killer for us over the past several years. Mackey and Martin Reilly seem to be on form at the moment and we know what Johnston can do, do we suffer something if all three line out? Martin Reilly impresses me and seems to be as game as they come but I recall him having a bit of stagefright against Armagh in the Championship last year which can happen to any lad, hopefully he will be more comfortable this time out if he gets the chance.




Positive performance by Cavan in challenge
by Paul Fitzpatrick
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Cian Mackey, who had an excellent game for Cavan, sets up an attack.
Pic by: James Brady

Westmeath 1-12

Cavan 0-15

Paul Fitzpatrick

at Cusack Park, Mullingar

A lively Cavan side, minus a number of regulars, drew with an almost full-strength Westmeath in this well-contested senior football challenge in excellent conditions at Cusack Park last Saturday evening.

While the intensity petered out in the closing stages of the match, which was played in a format of three 25-minute periods, there were plenty of hard hits and the workrate, for both teams, was impressive throughout.

A feature of the match was Cavan's ability to strike fast on the break. Having opened the scoring with a pointed free from the excellent Cian Mackey in the third minute, Cavan's next score came at the end of one such move when Nicholas Walsh and Martin Reilly combined to set up Mackey for a sweet score on the run.

Having made most of the early running, Cavan were hauled back in the ninth minute when Thomas McDaniel latched on to a pass from David Shaughnessy, cut through a gap in the Cavan full-back line and planted the ball in the bottom of the net, giving Fintan Reilly no chance.

In perfect conditions for attacking football, Cavan continued to press forward with Mackey and Micheal Lyng linking defence and attack to great effect. The latter saw a shot unluckily rebound off the upright after a nice move in the 13th minute and from the next attack, the reliable Dessie Dolan curled over a free to make it 1-1 to 0-2.

Conor Lynam extended Westmeath's lead on the quarter hour mark, collecting a quick free following a foul by Michael Brides - who went on to turn in a super second half - and tapping over from close range.

Cavan replied immediately with a brilliant point, Hannon starting a flowing move which involved Lyng and Jason O'Reilly and resulted in Larry Reilly firing over a neat right-footed score.

A Dolan free was cancelled out by a 40 metre point from Larry as Cavan continued to play the betetr football and their play was rewarded when Mackey slotted over his third point to leave a point in it in favour of Westmeath, 1-3 to 0-5, at the end of the first period.

A close-range Mackey free, following a foul on Nicholas Walsh, brought the sides level just after the restart.

Martin Reilly and Dolan exchanged frees before Ciaran Galligan nudged Cavan in front again with a neat point on the run.

Westmeath, who featured around a dozen of what is expected to make up their championship team, got little change out of a battling Cavan defence for long periods after the opening flurry and were reliant Dolan's placed balls for scores.

Two quick points from the full-forward, the second from play, saw the lead change hands but Cavan were soon back on level terms after a tidy point from Lyng, following good work by Martin Reilly.

Jason O'Reilly, who displayed a huge workrate as usual, pushed Cavan in front again with a punched point and substitute David Givney, who caught the eye with a couple of mesmerising catches, stretched the lead to two with another after Lyng and Martin Reilly had combined well.

Dolan set up David Duffy to bring the gap back to one, 0-11 to 1-7, as the second period drew to a close.

Despite a number of personnel changes, the intensity of the match dropped in the third period. Dessie Dolan helped himself to two quick points, the second of which came from play from the right touchline and was the score of the match, but Rya Cullivan – who showed well on his introduction – delivered a super pass for Mackey to tie matters once more.

Sub Barry Watters, who will provide an extra option for Tom Carr now that he has recovered fitness, set up Martin Reilly for another as the match opened up completely.

Dermot Sheridan, Michael Brides and Padraig O'Reilly battled hard as Cavan held off the Westmeath forwards under sustained pressure for five minutes and on a rare foray, Lorcan Mulvey curled over a fine point to put two in it for Cavan.

Another Dolan free, this time from 30 metres, was cancelled out by Sean Brady as Cavan looked set to hold on.

However, a tidy point by Conrad Reilly and, fittingly, a Dolan free drew Westmeath level as the match petered out.

CAVAN: Fintan Reilly, Michael Brides, Dermot Sheridan, Michael Hannon, Padraig O'Reilly, Eugene Keating, John McCutcheon, Nicholas Walsh, Ciaran Galligan (0-1), Cian Mackey (0-5, 1f), Micheal Lyng, Sean Brady (0-1), Jason O'Reilly (0-1), Larry Reilly (0-2), Martin Reilly (0-2, 1f)

SUBS: Eoin Smith, David Givney (0-1), Ray Cullivan, Lorcan Mulvey (0-1), Paul Brady, Barry Watters

WESTMEATH: Gary Connaughton, Finian Doyle, Jim Gavin, Alan Claffey, Michael Ennis, Derek Heavin, Donal O'Donoghue, David Shaughnessy, David Duffy (0-1), Conrad Reilly (0-1), John Smith, Doran Harte, Thomas McDaniel (1-1), Dessie Dolan (0-9, 7f), Conor Lynam
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on May 14, 2009, 09:10:57 PM
Dessie Dolan kicked 7 frees that not a good sign for our defence.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on May 14, 2009, 09:50:41 PM
Just a small point when we're guessing at the likely team for the championship. Larry was named at 14 against Westmeath and he spent the latter stages of the league coming out and playing as an extra man around the middle. It could well be that TC is going to go with 2 men inside given that he hasn't tried Cullivan in there and I don't think Givney has been used in there (in competive games) since the Longford match. ???
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on May 14, 2009, 09:58:54 PM
So whats the story with James Reilly not playing in any of the last few games. I heard a rumor that he has fallen out with management - anyone know if this is true?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on May 14, 2009, 10:01:43 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on May 14, 2009, 09:58:54 PM
So whats the story with James Reilly not playing in any of the last few games. I heard a rumor that he has fallen out with management - anyone know if this is true?

He came off injured in a challenge game, i think he will be alright for championship.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on May 14, 2009, 10:30:51 PM
Quote from: RednBlack on May 14, 2009, 10:17:23 PM
you can be guaranteed TC is going to go with two inside and that Mackey will come in off the right side to sweep around the middle of the park. Go in and watch a training session and its very obvious whats being rehearsed. Even the patterns of build up play form the back. No backwards ball and kick pass forward as much as possible.

Well I am glad to see that they are working on a game plan - something that was obviously missing in previous years.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on May 14, 2009, 10:48:12 PM
I dunno about these gameplans lads.

I for one am really going to miss the WORRRRRRRRRRKRAAAAAAAAATE.

:'(
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: whats my name on May 14, 2009, 11:09:59 PM
i was at the westmeath game and james Reilly was there as was Rory Dunne but none of them were togged out for some reason. but we need miller in the goals he is like the shay given of newcastle when he was with them. shit defence but still managed 2 keep them in games when they were being over run.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on May 15, 2009, 01:01:24 PM
Rednblack you seem to be keeping a particularly close eye on the action even getting as far as taking in a few training sessions and the likes. Now I've lost count of the number of times during the past several years where Mattie Kerrigan/Dermot McCabe/Sean Johnston have been in the media telling us how well training is going only for the results to suggest something else. What's your feeling on how the camp is set at the moment as regards morale, committment, reaction to new management team etc? Can you guage from the training sessions? Has the way the departures of Mckeever and McCabe been handled had a positive impact or......

Myles, wouldn't be so sure about Fermanagh being the opposition, certainly their League run wasn't up to much. Down will have a (small) amount of impetus from Div 3 promotion and, probably more importantly, under 21 run.

If we can win 1 championship game, one backdoor game, not get disgraced elsewhere and lads like McCutcheon, Galligan and one or two others show an aptitude for championship football I'll put that down as progress in a difficult enough year. Here's hoping.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on May 15, 2009, 01:56:40 PM
I think posters should be careful about what is said in relations to tactics on this.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on May 15, 2009, 02:59:37 PM
Quote from: cavan4ever on May 15, 2009, 01:56:40 PM
I think posters should be careful about what is said in relations to tactics on this.

I think it will be wet and windy on Sunday. I think Fermanagh will love that. I think that pitch is tight and is notoriously difficult to get a result in. Fermanagh will try and make a war out of this game and it all depends if Down have the balls to dig in and fight back. I don't think they have to be honest.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on May 15, 2009, 03:23:33 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on May 15, 2009, 02:59:37 PM
Quote from: cavan4ever on May 15, 2009, 01:56:40 PM
I think posters should be careful about what is said in relations to tactics on this.

I think it will be wet and windy on Sunday. I think Fermanagh will love that. I think that pitch is tight and is notoriously difficult to get a result in. Fermanagh will try and make a war out of this game and it all depends if Down have the balls to dig in and fight back. I don't think they have to be honest.

Are you on the party pills again myles.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on May 15, 2009, 03:41:14 PM
Carr announces championship panel

Cavan manager Tommy Carr
15 May 2009


Cavan senior football manager Tommy Carr has announced a 31-man panel for his side's championship campaign this summer.

After much speculation, the Tipperary man has opted not to include veteran midfielder Dermot McCabe in his selections, while Gowna club mate and former captain Mark McKeever is also left out after being dropped by Carr early on during the Breffni County's league campaign.

New captain Ronan Flanagan is obviously included and there are two goalkeepers selected with two-time All Star nominee James Reilly and Redhills' Fintan Reilly making the cut, while four recognised midfielders have been chosen in Nicholas Walsh, Lorcan Mulvey, Ciaran Galligan and Ray Cullivan to try and fill the void left by McCabe.

Carr has also brushed aside recent rumors that ace attacker Sean Johnston will be missing his county's championship campaign by selecting the Cavan Gaels sharpshooter in the squad.

There are three new faces that come into the panel since Cavan concluded their NFL campaign at the end of last month; Killygarry defender Eoin Smith and Under 21 stalwarts Gearoid McKiernan and Tomas O'Reilly.

Cavan kick-off their championship campaign one June 6 against the winners of this Sunday's Ulster SFC opener between Fermanagh and Down, who they will meet in either Kingspan Breffni Park or Pairc Esler, Newry in the quarter-finals depending on the outcome of this weekend's encounter.

Cavan SFC panel 2009: Ronan Flanagan (Castlerahan), James Reilly (Drung), Fintan Reilly (Redhills), Paul Brady (Mullahoran), Michael Brides (St Oliver Plunketts), Rory Dunne (Redhills), John McCutcheon (Cootehill), Keith Fannin (Drumgoon), Michael Hannon (Drumgoon), Padraig O'Reilly (Ballinagh), Dermot Sheridan (Mullahoran), Ciaran Galligan (Drung), Nicholas Walsh (Cavan Gaels), Lorcan Mulvey (Butlersbridge), Ray Cullivan (Ballyhaise), David Givney (Mountnugent), Larry Reilly (Knockbride), Martin Reilly (Killygarry), Eddie O'Reilly (Mullahoran), Jason O'Reilly (Belturbet), Sean Johnston (Cavan Gaels), Micheal Lyng (Cavan Gaels), Cian Mackey (Castlerahan), Gerald Pierson (Gowna), Eugene Keating (Cuchulainns), Martin Cahill (Denn), Sean Brady (Castlerahan), Eoin Smith (Killygarry), Barry Watters (Drung), Gearoid McKiernan (Swanlinbar), Tomas Reilly (Killeshandra).
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on May 15, 2009, 04:38:04 PM
Wouldnt worry about talking about tactics lads,
Malachy O Rourke will know all about us, if Fermanagh get through and Ross Carr/DJ Kane have already seen some of our tactics in the League game in Newry.

Anglocelt said what he believed would be a good championship for us.

For me
I sincerely believe we will beat Fermanagh if they get through with home advantage(i dont think we would beat them in Enniskillen)
It will be very hard to go down to Newry and get a result if its Down we are playing.(i wouldnt be confident at all)
If we can get through to the Ulster Semi Final,Then probably Donegal will await, in Clones, Again a very winnable game.
An Ulster Final apperance is a reasonable goal this year in my opinion,
An Ulster Title is very unlikely because i dont think we would beat any of the 4 in the other side of the draw,but you never know on the day i suppose.
3 Wins in the Championship this year would be significant progress.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on May 15, 2009, 05:02:52 PM
All i am getting at is there is one thing speculating about tactics but its another thing going into training and then coming onto this and spilling what you see. 
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on May 15, 2009, 07:01:06 PM
I heard a whisper on the grapevine that Micheáll Lyng done himself a damage at training this week and is out of the championship. Can anyone confirm? Shame but then again, he hasn't really been a feature of the side so we're used to being without him.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: offthebeatentrack on May 15, 2009, 07:32:21 PM
Yeah heard that alright! Pity for the lad. Agree with the report in the post a few weeks ago that any team with Lyng in it is always going to be at an advantage and after reding the Westmeath report it looks like he had a good game. I'm sure he'll be back soon.

I agree the we can get to an Ulster Final this year. Just have to see what June 6th brings :)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on May 15, 2009, 08:11:32 PM
Right lads, put the county to the back of your minds for the next week and get back to the club action. I didn't even know that Kingscourt gave Killinkere a hiding last weekend cos nobody told me. ;D Is there any stopping them? Will Gowna be a force to be reckoned with now that McCabe and McKeever definitely won't be with the county this year. Will Celt-Man get a 100% predictiion result this week?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on May 15, 2009, 09:07:12 PM
Lyng is unfortunate with injuries.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on May 15, 2009, 10:59:09 PM
Quote from: cavan4ever on May 15, 2009, 03:23:33 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on May 15, 2009, 02:59:37 PM
Quote from: cavan4ever on May 15, 2009, 01:56:40 PM
I think posters should be careful about what is said in relations to tactics on this.

I think it will be wet and windy on Sunday. I think Fermanagh will love that. I think that pitch is tight and is notoriously difficult to get a result in. Fermanagh will try and make a war out of this game and it all depends if Down have the balls to dig in and fight back. I don't think they have to be honest.

Are you on the party pills again myles.

Eh, no. Why do you ask?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on May 16, 2009, 09:28:28 AM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on May 15, 2009, 10:59:09 PM
Quote from: cavan4ever on May 15, 2009, 03:23:33 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on May 15, 2009, 02:59:37 PM
Quote from: cavan4ever on May 15, 2009, 01:56:40 PM
I think posters should be careful about what is said in relations to tactics on this.

I think it will be wet and windy on Sunday. I think Fermanagh will love that. I think that pitch is tight and is notoriously difficult to get a result in. Fermanagh will try and make a war out of this game and it all depends if Down have the balls to dig in and fight back. I don't think they have to be honest.

Are you on the party pills again myles.

Eh, no. Why do you ask?

Because i dont think your right in the head  ;D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on May 16, 2009, 12:57:02 PM
a few lads reckon we can make the Ulster Final and I hope they are right. I think a lot will depend on how good TC and his team are at the mind side of things as much as anything else. With McCabe and Forde gone and Larry/Jason just about gone we now have a panel of players none of whom have won anything in a Cavan jersey from minor level upwards. getting players to believe that they can do the business despite this fact will be a job. As bad and all as things have been over the last 20 years there were always 4 or 5 blokes on a panel that could draw on the experience/belief of having played in an AI under 21 final. Add to that the fact that nobody has won anything with their clubs at provincial level and the challenge gets a bit bigger.

Mind you, Charlie Mulgrew managed to deal with similar challenges up at Fermanagh so..........

C4E-i think the chicken needs to grow a head again
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on May 16, 2009, 02:18:24 PM
Quote from: anglocelt39 on May 16, 2009, 12:57:02 PM
a few lads reckon we can make the Ulster Final and I hope they are right. I think a lot will depend on how good TC and his team are at the mind side of things as much as anything else. With McCabe and Forde gone and Larry/Jason just about gone we now have a panel of players none of whom have won anything in a Cavan jersey from minor level upwards. getting players to believe that they can do the business despite this fact will be a job. As bad and all as things have been over the last 20 years there were always 4 or 5 blokes on a panel that could draw on the experience/belief of having played in an AI under 21 final. Add to that the fact that nobody has won anything with their clubs at provincial level and the challenge gets a bit bigger.

Mind you, Charlie Mulgrew managed to deal with similar challenges up at Fermanagh so..........

C4E-i think the chicken needs to grow a head again

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Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on May 16, 2009, 09:31:59 PM
Our game against Shercock was called off, our pitch is in a mess... heard Drumgoon beat ballyhaise by a goal... any more results?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on May 16, 2009, 10:21:52 PM
Heard Drung won by 6 points over Drumalee... serious win for them
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on May 17, 2009, 08:28:53 AM
Heard Killeshandra beat Drumlane by 5 I think it was. I think I heard that the two Gaels games were called off. No scores on Aertel yet.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on May 17, 2009, 10:42:21 AM
Quote from: Celt_Man on May 16, 2009, 10:21:52 PM
Heard Drung won by 6 points over Drumalee... serious win for them

Drumalee player had a serious leg injury with about 7/8 minutes to go.  Ambulance had to be called, poor fellow it looked very nasty hope he has a speedy recovery.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on May 17, 2009, 11:21:40 AM
Quote from: cavan4ever on May 15, 2009, 01:56:40 PM
I think posters should be careful about what is said in relations to tactics on this.


Cavan4ever you should not be worrying yourself about this stuff my reading of the siuation is that RednBlacks representation of tactical setup on here is so wide of the mark that I would think he is a member of the Cavan backroom team and is charged with putting mis information out via various sources in a master plan to confuse our championship rivals.

What I CAN EXCLUSIVELY REVEAL is that members of TC's team, including himself, have been seen checking in and out of various UK airports over the past several weeks. My sources on the ground over there (and they are indeed impeccable) have revealed that he has been in detailed negotiations with two of our exiled sons. These discussions have borne fruit and our championship midfield will comprise Darly McConnell and, yes, you've guessed it.....................Jamie Coffey.

The idea of Cian Mackey sweeping up and covering every blade of grass on the pitch is a clear smokescreen from our Killygarry source. That role has been handed to the 'Bridges own Lorcan Mulvey.

Tommy is also aware of our concerns about the full back line and has hatched a plot that will make opposing numbers 13 to 15 eyes water. Taking from the legendary and infamous "hells kitchen" employed by Tipperary hurling back lines in the late 60's early 70's our corner backs will be Martin Reilly and Cian Mackey. The full back position itself remains up for grabs but lets just say that Sean Johsnstons absence from training lately might be less to do with injury and more to do with the time he's been spending in the company of recently retired Armagh stalwart Francie Bellew around the trainging pitches of south Armagh.

Let the games begin.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on May 17, 2009, 11:24:56 AM
Quote from: anglocelt39 on May 17, 2009, 11:21:40 AM
Quote from: cavan4ever on May 15, 2009, 01:56:40 PM
I think posters should be careful about what is said in relations to tactics on this.


Cavan4ever you should not be worrying yourself about this stuff my reading of the siuation is that RednBlacks representation of tactical setup on here is so wide of the mark that I would think he is a member of the Cavan backroom team and is charged with putting mis information out via various sources in a master plan to confuse our championship rivals.

What I CAN EXCLUSIVELY REVEAL is that members of TC's team, including himself, have been seen checking in and out of various UK airports over the past several weeks. My sources on the ground over there (and they are indeed impeccable) have revealed that he has been in detailed negotiations with two of our exiled sons. These discussions have borne fruit and our championship midfield will comprise Darly McConnell and, yes, you've guessed it.....................Jamie Coffey.

The idea of Cian Mackey sweeping up and covering every blade of grass on the pitch is a clear smokescreen from our Killygarry source. That role has been handed to the 'Bridges own Lorcan Mulvey.

Tommy is also aware of our concerns about the full back line and has hatched a plot that will make opposing numbers 13 to 15 eyes water. Taking from the legendary and infamous "hells kitchen" employed by Tipperary hurling back lines in the late 60's early 70's our corner backs will be Martin Reilly and Cian Mackey. The full back position itself remains up for grabs but lets just say that Sean Johsnstons absence from training lately might be less to do with injury and more to do with the time he's been spending in the company of recently retired Armagh stalwart Francie Bellew around the trainging pitches of south Armagh.

Let the games begin.

Summary ?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on May 17, 2009, 11:29:38 AM
Let the reader summarise for him/herself C4E
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on May 17, 2009, 11:58:00 AM
Quote from: anglocelt39 on May 17, 2009, 11:29:38 AM
Let the reader summarise for him/herself C4E

anglocelt39 posts less than 100 words shocker  :o
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on May 17, 2009, 12:01:40 PM
C4E nominates himself for the Hollow Man in memoriam award pity
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on May 17, 2009, 12:03:58 PM
Quote from: anglocelt39 on May 17, 2009, 12:01:40 PM
C4E nominates himself for the Hollow Man in memoriam award pity

anglocelt39 nominates himself to go to one Cavan game this year.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on May 17, 2009, 12:38:18 PM
Bailieborough's game against Munterconnacht was called off.  Heard very few results so I presume a lot of games were called off.

I saw someone mention above that Miller and Carr are not getting on the best. I heard the same story yesterday. Would be a travesty if he wasn't in the nets..
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on May 17, 2009, 12:48:23 PM
Quote from: put-it-up on May 17, 2009, 12:38:18 PM
Bailieborough's game against Munterconnacht was called off.  Heard very few results so I presume a lot of games were called off.

I saw someone mention above that Miller and Carr are not getting on the best. I heard the same story yesterday. Would be a travesty if he wasn't in the nets..

I dont know what the story with this is but one thing i do know is that if Miller though he wasnt going to be playing in the championship he would pack his bag and walk. 
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on May 17, 2009, 12:58:20 PM
Quote from: cavan4ever on May 17, 2009, 10:42:21 AM
Quote from: Celt_Man on May 16, 2009, 10:21:52 PM
Heard Drung won by 6 points over Drumalee... serious win for them

Drumalee player had a serious leg injury with about 7/8 minutes to go.  Ambulance had to be called, poor fellow it looked very nasty hope he has a speedy recovery.


Seanie Lee,Mickeys younger brother.Leg broke in 4 places below the knee.If he wasnt so brave he wouldnt have went near the ball.Worst injury Iv ever seen and everybody in the stand had a perfect view,which made it all the more shocking.Game should have been called off straight away and Drung given the points.
Good win for Drung.They scored 2 great goals,while we had 2 certain goals brilliantly cleared off the line.After seeing that last night it puts it all in perspective tho.
All reserve games off today,County Board didnt even consult with clubs to see how pitches were holding up.After what happened in our Senior game last nite its better off but Drumalee was well fit to hold a game today.Treating Junior footballers like a joke.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on May 17, 2009, 01:04:19 PM
James Reilly didnt play for Drung last night,he was with the team tho,he must be injured.Galligan done well enough.Barry Watters-IMO very over rated,didnt stand out.Takes far too much out of the ball.
Anybody hear that Eugene Keating has refused to play for Cuchulainns at the moment,he is concentrating on Cavan??
Also heard that Mark Little is Gaels (not Enniskillen) bound??
Anybody shed light?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on May 17, 2009, 06:06:53 PM
Quote from: cavan4ever on May 16, 2009, 09:28:28 AM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on May 15, 2009, 10:59:09 PM
Quote from: cavan4ever on May 15, 2009, 03:23:33 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on May 15, 2009, 02:59:37 PM
Quote from: cavan4ever on May 15, 2009, 01:56:40 PM
I think posters should be careful about what is said in relations to tactics on this.

I think it will be wet and windy on Sunday. I think Fermanagh will love that. I think that pitch is tight and is notoriously difficult to get a result in. Fermanagh will try and make a war out of this game and it all depends if Down have the balls to dig in and fight back. I don't think they have to be honest.



Are you on the party pills again myles.

Eh, no. Why do you ask?

Because i dont think your right in the head  ;D

He said it would rain and it rained
He said it would be windy and the wind did blow
He said Fermanagh would make it a war and they did
He said Down were ball-less and not a ball was to be seen in red and black
He said Cavan v Fermanagh in Breffni and low and behold it came to pass.
He put on €10 and got €25 back.

Now where are me pills!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on May 17, 2009, 06:50:46 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on May 17, 2009, 06:06:53 PM
Quote from: cavan4ever on May 16, 2009, 09:28:28 AM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on May 15, 2009, 10:59:09 PM
Quote from: cavan4ever on May 15, 2009, 03:23:33 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on May 15, 2009, 02:59:37 PM
Quote from: cavan4ever on May 15, 2009, 01:56:40 PM
I think posters should be careful about what is said in relations to tactics on this.

I think it will be wet and windy on Sunday. I think Fermanagh will love that. I think that pitch is tight and is notoriously difficult to get a result in. Fermanagh will try and make a war out of this game and it all depends if Down have the balls to dig in and fight back. I don't think they have to be honest.

He said it would rain and it rained
He said it would be windy and the wind did blow
He said Fermanagh would make it a war and they did
He said Down were ball-less and not a ball was to be seen in red and black
He said Cavan v Fermanagh in Breffni and low and behold it came to pass.
He put on €10 and got €25 back.

Now were are me pills!

Are you on the party pills again myles.

Eh, no. Why do you ask?

Because i dont think your right in the head  ;D
Well we'v definitely found a new name for you-Mystic Myles!! Thought Fermanagh myself but fucked the bet up by throwing in Louth -2 points.Louth win by 2. :'( :'(
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on May 17, 2009, 07:12:08 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on May 17, 2009, 06:06:53 PM
Quote from: cavan4ever on May 16, 2009, 09:28:28 AM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on May 15, 2009, 10:59:09 PM
Quote from: cavan4ever on May 15, 2009, 03:23:33 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on May 15, 2009, 02:59:37 PM
Quote from: cavan4ever on May 15, 2009, 01:56:40 PM
I think posters should be careful about what is said in relations to tactics on this.

I think it will be wet and windy on Sunday. I think Fermanagh will love that. I think that pitch is tight and is notoriously difficult to get a result in. Fermanagh will try and make a war out of this game and it all depends if Down have the balls to dig in and fight back. I don't think they have to be honest.
..........he could have been gracious but he wasn't. Still good call.
Serious bad luck Boojangles with injuries after your full-back breaking his arm earlier in the year. I don't know that lad-he doesn't play midfield for you does he?


Are you on the party pills again myles.

Eh, no. Why do you ask?

Because i dont think your right in the head  ;D

He said it would rain and it rained
He said it would be windy and the wind did blow
He said Fermanagh would make it a war and they did
He said Down were ball-less and not a ball was to be seen in red and black
He said Cavan v Fermanagh in Breffni and low and behold it came to pass.
He put on €10 and got €25 back.

Now where are me pills!

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on May 17, 2009, 07:34:37 PM
Drumgoon beat us by a goal last night 1-8 to 0-8.
Division 2 is tight at the bottom,
I think Shercock and The Gaels could be joint 2nd bottom on 5 points  :o
Crosserlough are doomed.
Crucial game for ourselves against Kill next Saturday.
Lose that and its a relegation battle.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on May 17, 2009, 08:31:51 PM
Quote from: boojangles on May 17, 2009, 01:04:19 PM
James Reilly didnt play for Drung last night,he was with the team tho,he must be injured.Galligan done well enough.Barry Watters-IMO very over rated,didnt stand out.Takes far too much out of the ball.
Anybody hear that Eugene Keating has refused to play for Cuchulainns at the moment,he is concentrating on Cavan??
Also heard that Mark Little is Gaels (not Enniskillen) bound??
Anybody shed light?

Who was that lad who was marking Watters he did a good job on him.  Barry can be brillant one day but if things arent going his way he is inclinded to get involved in running battles with the referee and opposition players. 
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on May 17, 2009, 09:01:22 PM
Suprised Drung beat Drumalee,
Like ourselves,Drumalee have underachieved in the league so far,
Probably missing the leadership and abilities of Mr Boojangles  :P
Drung on 6 points now???
Told ye, you would pick up points C4ever  :P
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on May 17, 2009, 10:24:44 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on May 17, 2009, 09:01:22 PM
Suprised Drung beat Drumalee,
Like ourselves,Drumalee have underachieved in the league so far,
Probably missing the leadership and abilities of Mr Boojangles  :P
Drung on 6 points now???
Told ye, you would pick up points C4ever  :P

Dunno about that now BHMan,maybe leadership,dunno about the ability :P :P but we have definitely underachieved,no consistency.can be great one day terrible the next.But we have had a terrible time with injuries and we dont have the strength in depth to cope.From our 1st team last nite we were missing 7-8 regulars.We need everybody back if we are to stay within 4-5 points of Ballyhaise, going on last years campaign. I kicked my 1st ball in 6 months last wkend but Im getting there.A cameo appearance against Ballyhaise and Il b happy ;D ;D
C4Ever Barry Watters was marked by Timmy Looney who did a good job.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on May 18, 2009, 08:37:01 AM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on May 17, 2009, 09:01:22 PM
Suprised Drung beat Drumalee,
Like ourselves,Drumalee have underachieved in the league so far,
Probably missing the leadership and abilities of Mr Boojangles  :P
Drung on 6 points now???
Told ye, you would pick up points C4ever  :P

Good to be on 6 but still have tough games to come, we have the teams at the top played so we are up against teams in similar suituations as ourselves from now on.  Niall O'rourke started on saturday evening and played quiet well.  Its great to see him back playing again after so many years out.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on May 18, 2009, 11:09:45 AM
Couldnt believe when I seen Niall O Rourke as rite,I thought he had retired for good.I remember him as a Cavan Minor,like all the O Rourkes,serious talent.Whats the story on Karl? Who was your full-back on Saturday C4Ever?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on May 18, 2009, 01:46:30 PM
I'm quite hopeful we can overturn Fermanagh in Breffni. The big worry for me is whether we can match their workrate.

With the Fermanagh match being on a Saturday evening does anyone know what the plan is for the Down minor game? I presume it won't be played as a curtain raiser anyway.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on May 18, 2009, 02:57:30 PM
Quote from: Homer on May 18, 2009, 01:46:30 PM
I'm quite hopeful we can overturn Fermanagh in Breffni. The big worry for me is whether we can match their workrate.

With the Fermanagh match being on a Saturday evening does anyone know what the plan is for the Down minor game? I presume it won't be played as a curtain raiser anyway.

the minors play Down on May 30, which i think is the Saturday, in the Athletic Grounds Armagh in their first round game. I'm really not expecting much from them, heard they lost to Westmeath and Roscommon in challenges in the last two weeks.

Lyng is definetly out of the senior game, which is disappointing. We will neeed a bit of creativity to break down Fermanagh..man they are boring to watch
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on May 18, 2009, 03:14:42 PM
Fermanagh are definitely no world beaters but then again, neither are we.

My concerns having watched them v Down yesterday is that their big no.14 might do some damage under high ball, and as mentioned above, their workrate will take matching. It seems Keogan was right all along!

As usual the middle eight is where it will be won and lost. We have to break even at kickouts and get direct and long, accurate ball in before Fermanagh funnel everyone back, and hopefully we have the pace in attack to hit them on the break if their attacks break down. Their defence looked decent v Down but a lot of that was surely to do with how awful Down were at engineering attacks. Flanagan, Gunner and Mackey will have to get up and down the park and pick out the long passes from deep and I'm confident that they can do this.

I see it as an evely matched game with maybe home advantage swinging it our way. I expect to see Cavan being a very different animal to the league when, even from the outside looking in as I was, we never seemed too bothered apart from two games that TC would badly have wanted to win, i.e. v Down when the world and his mother was laughing at us following the loss to Tipp, and v Ros where he'd have wanted to stick it to them after the way he was treated there. So I'm hopeful we can apply ourselves like that more consistently in championship.

Having read that Dessie Dolan knocked over alot of frees in that challenge v Westmeath though, and looking at Fermanagh tapping over frees on Sunday, there's a major concern that our jittery defence will resort to silly fouling and cough up cheap scores. Or the ref might just be one of those whistle-happy eejits that buys every dive. If we work hard on disciplined tackling - Down clearly hadn't - then we'll take a lot of the sting out of Fermanagh.

That's my tuppence worth anyway. Cavan by two I'll say.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Babe Ruth 47 on May 18, 2009, 03:37:12 PM
Fermanagh's defence did look the part alright but as Maniac said a lot of this is due to a very one dimensional Down attack. The key men will be Mackey and Flanagan and their ability to ball carry. I feel the key man though may be Martin Reilly. His ability to pick out a pass is second to none and its rare you see him waste possession from the boot. My instict is that he will line out in the full forward line ad come deep acting as a link man, along with Mackey between deence ad attack. As also stated quick chest high ball in front of our full forwards will be key before Fermanagh get a chance to flter men back.

If you go through the teams individually I believe their is morre natual talent in the Cavan squad. All depends how we operate as a unit. Hopefully too if we put enough pressure on the Fermanagh forwards they will revert to type. I fully expect us to win, albeit narrowlyl
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on May 18, 2009, 04:26:32 PM
Quote from: boojangles on May 18, 2009, 11:09:45 AM
Couldnt believe when I seen Niall O Rourke as rite,I thought he had retired for good.I remember him as a Cavan Minor,like all the O Rourkes,serious talent.Whats the story on Karl? Who was your full-back on Saturday C4Ever?

When Joe Fitz are manager came last year he got talking to Niall and sent him to a surgeon in Belfast who looks after the Cross and Armagh players and he found a problem with the work done by previous surgeons and operated sorted him out.  I dont know where Karl was the other evening but he was playing poor and had lost his place, he was late coming back and missed a few games at start of the year.  Finabar O'Reilly was full back on saturday.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Western Blue on May 18, 2009, 05:11:43 PM
Just our luck...What is the extent of Michael Lyng injury...Has he any hope of making the game on the 6th June : ???
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: the salmon of knowledge on May 18, 2009, 07:36:36 PM
Quote from: boojangles on May 17, 2009, 01:04:19 PM
James Reilly didnt play for Drung last night,he was with the team tho,he must be injured.Galligan done well enough.Barry Watters-IMO very over rated,didnt stand out.Takes far too much out of the ball.
onAnybody hear that Eugene Keating has refused to play for Cuchulainns at the moment,he is concentrating  Cavan??Also heard that Mark Little is Gaels (not Enniskillen) bound??
Anybody shed light?


i am told by a CuCu player he was named on the team to play ramor and didnt even show up! was not his desicion
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: the salmon of knowledge on May 18, 2009, 07:40:09 PM
on the down game...
was it just me or did anyone think Bannon gave Fermanagh everything???
we could have big problems with that Carson guy at 14 for them
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on May 18, 2009, 08:39:59 PM
Quote from: the salmon of knowledge on May 18, 2009, 07:40:09 PM
on the down game...
was it just me or did anyone think Bannon gave Fermanagh everything???
we could have big problems with that Carson guy at 14 for them

Id say Dermot Sheridan will be fit for him, well im hoping anyway. 
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: ExiledGael on May 18, 2009, 09:17:34 PM
Have also heard the Little story from the Fermanagh end of things. All is not well.
Also anyone saying that Cavan posess far greater natural talent than Fermanagh is just wrong.
This is very close to a fifty fifty game, Fermanagh (St Micks) have been producing superb footballers for the last 10/15 years, many of whom have won McRory's and Sigersons.
Looking forward to this though.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on May 19, 2009, 09:08:17 AM
Quote from: the salmon of knowledge on May 18, 2009, 07:36:36 PM
Quote from: boojangles on May 17, 2009, 01:04:19 PM
James Reilly didnt play for Drung last night,he was with the team tho,he must be injured.Galligan done well enough.Barry Watters-IMO very over rated,didnt stand out.Takes far too much out of the ball.
onAnybody hear that Eugene Keating has refused to play for Cuchulainns at the moment,he is concentrating  Cavan??Also heard that Mark Little is Gaels (not Enniskillen) bound??
Anybody shed light?


i am told by a CuCu player he was named on the team to play ramor and didnt even show up! was not his desicion

Salmon what do you mean by it wasnt his decison.  Is someone stopping him from playing with his club?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on May 19, 2009, 11:12:37 AM
Boys I just wouldnt be expecting too much from Cavan just yet.I definitely wont be getting my hopes up,and expecting a Cavan win,because we know by no not to expect much,even if we are expecting to win.Fermanagh will be well drilled on how to stop Cavans main threat ie. Jelly and after that it all depends how the rest step up to the mark.Lyng is a huge loss,the best passer of the ball we have and definitely a key man in unlocking a tight defence but anyway.
Cavan Juniors are playing in the Championship next week I believe,I hear they are looking for players for a challenge in Meath tonight.I dont think they are too picky,I wonder is Mr Pain around? we could do with his hard man,straight talking type against the Royals! :P :P
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on May 19, 2009, 12:58:45 PM
Quote from: boojangles on May 19, 2009, 11:12:37 AM
Boys I just wouldnt be expecting too much from Cavan just yet.I definitely wont be getting my hopes up,and expecting a Cavan win,because we know by no not to expect much,even if we are expecting to win.Fermanagh will be well drilled on how to stop Cavans main threat ie. Jelly and after that it all depends how the rest step up to the mark.Lyng is a huge loss,the best passer of the ball we have and definitely a key man in unlocking a tight defence but anyway.
Cavan Juniors are playing in the Championship next week I believe,I hear they are looking for players for a challenge in Meath tonight.I dont think they are too picky,I wonder is Mr Pain around? we could do with his hard man,straight talking type against the Royals! :P :P

This could prove to be the perfect game to see how far Carr has come with this group in a short space of time. The overwhelming opinion was that our attitude stank and what we'll need to beat Fermanagh will be all the mental attributes we've been sadly lacking. I wouldn't judge Carr if we were to still be found wanting at this stage as Fermanagh have a great level of determination, fitness and pig-headed desire to win that our lads might struggle to match.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on May 19, 2009, 01:27:56 PM
Quote from: Lawrence of Knockbride on May 19, 2009, 12:58:45 PM
Quote from: boojangles on May 19, 2009, 11:12:37 AM
Boys I just wouldnt be expecting too much from Cavan just yet.I definitely wont be getting my hopes up,and expecting a Cavan win,because we know by no not to expect much,even if we are expecting to win.Fermanagh will be well drilled on how to stop Cavans main threat ie. Jelly and after that it all depends how the rest step up to the mark.Lyng is a huge loss,the best passer of the ball we have and definitely a key man in unlocking a tight defence but anyway.
Cavan Juniors are playing in the Championship next week I believe,I hear they are looking for players for a challenge in Meath tonight.I dont think they are too picky,I wonder is Mr Pain around? we could do with his hard man,straight talking type against the Royals! :P :P

This could prove to be the perfect game to see how far Carr has come with this group in a short space of time. The overwhelming opinion was that our attitude stank and what we'll need to beat Fermanagh will be all the mental attributes we've been sadly lacking. I wouldn't judge Carr if we were to still be found wanting at this stage as Fermanagh have a great level of determination, fitness and pig-headed desire to win that our lads might struggle to match.
With 2 relatively small,mobile teams in opposition, people may expect a good open game but I think this game will be won by the team thats willing to put in the most work.Breaks,Tackles,Blocks,Blocking runs,diving on ball,putting bodies on the line etc. Fermanagh look very well organised so you can expect the above from them. Now its Cavans turn to show how much they want it.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on May 19, 2009, 05:18:32 PM
I worry is

1   Will/Do we have a game plan
2   Can we stick to it

Hers hoping
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on May 19, 2009, 06:09:59 PM
Quote from: Denn Forever on May 19, 2009, 05:18:32 PM
I worry is

1   Will/Do we have a game plan
2   Can we stick to it

Hers hoping

We have to have a game plan,although theres no point in over complicating it really,Football is a simple game.But my worry is, if our initial game plan isnt working(guessing at 2 men inside with Mackey/Cullivan/Flanagan roaming) ,will the players have to cop on to see its not working and change it,without waiting for TC to change it.
We have a few options like Givney on the square but it mite b a bit much to ask of him.He is definitely worth a chance,just not sure TC agrees.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: the salmon of knowledge on May 19, 2009, 09:02:05 PM
Quote from: cavan4ever on May 19, 2009, 09:08:17 AM
Quote from: the salmon of knowledge on May 18, 2009, 07:36:36 PM
Quote from: boojangles on May 17, 2009, 01:04:19 PM
James Reilly didnt play for Drung last night,he was with the team tho,he must be injured.Galligan done well enough.Barry Watters-IMO very over rated,didnt stand out.Takes far too much out of the ball.
onAnybody hear that Eugene Keating has refused to play for Cuchulainns at the moment,he is concentrating  Cavan??Also heard that Mark Little is Gaels (not Enniskillen) bound??
Anybody shed light?


i am told by a CuCu player he was named on the team to play ramor and didnt even show up! was not his desicion

Salmon what do you mean by it wasnt his decison.  Is someone stopping him from playing with his club?

yes C4E, from what i hear, and its a pretty reliable fellow, the players and mentors agreed that after his antics at the ramor game they did not want him anymore...
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: the salmon of knowledge on May 19, 2009, 09:13:09 PM
mackey and martin reilly donig the roaming seems to be whats going to take place, for me the tactic of a target man at FF is one to start the game with not deploy as a result of other things going wrong. it is not one i would use at all because fermanagh will just play a sweeper to mop up. givney will get there at senior grade, that is a certainty, but to go from one good season at JFC to spearheading the county teams championship lineup would be roy of the rovers stuff.
anyway who is going to deliver in this quality early ball to the FF line, for all the league games i have been at, noone this year has released early, good ball on a regular basis.
maybe some of you guys think different
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on May 19, 2009, 11:15:08 PM
Quote from: the salmon of knowledge on May 19, 2009, 09:13:09 PM
mackey and martin reilly donig the roaming seems to be whats going to take place, for me the tactic of a target man at FF is one to start the game with not deploy as a result of other things going wrong. it is not one i would use at all because fermanagh will just play a sweeper to mop up. givney will get there at senior grade, that is a certainty, but to go from one good season at JFC to spearheading the county teams championship lineup would be roy of the rovers stuff.
anyway who is going to deliver in this quality early ball to the FF line, for all the league games i have been at, noone this year has released early, good ball on a regular basis.
maybe some of you guys think different
There can be too much made of what grade of football lads play at.The bottom line is if he is good enough he can play at any level.Pat Spillane played at Junior level in Kerry and the last time I checked he was on the Team of Century and Millenium with 8 All-Ireland medals. Jason Reilly was one the most exciting talents to come on the scene with Cavan in years,he started out with Belturbet as Junior,Peter and Larry Reilly the same.
If a lad is good enough and works hard at his game to improve himself,what does it matter whether he is playing Senior or Junior.
David Givney can give Cavan options at Midfield,at 14 or as a half forward-we dont have many men who can do that for us.I don't think he will or should start but he is an excellent option to have,as shown by his display at midfield in the 2nd half in Newry.
McCutcheon,Paul the Gunner,Flanagan,Cullivan and Martin Reilly are all good passers of the ball,it just has to be drilled into them to hit it early,if thats the plan they are going with.

You definitely couldnt blame the CuCus for taking that stance. It really is an unbelievable situation though and it would only happen in Cavan. I wonder whats Niall Lynchs views on it?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on May 20, 2009, 09:26:35 AM
Quote from: boojangles on May 19, 2009, 11:15:08 PM
Quote from: the salmon of knowledge on May 19, 2009, 09:13:09 PM
mackey and martin reilly donig the roaming seems to be whats going to take place, for me the tactic of a target man at FF is one to start the game with not deploy as a result of other things going wrong. it is not one i would use at all because fermanagh will just play a sweeper to mop up. givney will get there at senior grade, that is a certainty, but to go from one good season at JFC to spearheading the county teams championship lineup would be roy of the rovers stuff.
anyway who is going to deliver in this quality early ball to the FF line, for all the league games i have been at, noone this year has released early, good ball on a regular basis.
maybe some of you guys think different
There can be too much made of what grade of football lads play at.The bottom line is if he is good enough he can play at any level.Pat Spillane played at Junior level in Kerry and the last time I checked he was on the Team of Century and Millenium with 8 All-Ireland medals. Jason Reilly was one the most exciting talents to come on the scene with Cavan in years,he started out with Belturbet as Junior,Peter and Larry Reilly the same.
If a lad is good enough and works hard at his game to improve himself,what does it matter whether he is playing Senior or Junior.
David Givney can give Cavan options at Midfield,at 14 or as a half forward-we dont have many men who can do that for us.I don't think he will or should start but he is an excellent option to have,as shown by his display at midfield in the 2nd half in Newry.
McCutcheon,Paul the Gunner,Flanagan,Cullivan and Martin Reilly are all good passers of the ball,it just has to be drilled into them to hit it early,if thats the plan they are going with.

You definitely couldnt blame the CuCus for taking that stance. It really is an unbelievable situation though and it would only happen in Cavan. I wonder whats Niall Lynchs views on it?
Could somebody please tell me/remind me what happened at the Ramor game?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on May 20, 2009, 10:03:11 AM
Quote from: Lawrence of Knockbride on May 20, 2009, 09:26:35 AM
Quote from: boojangles on May 19, 2009, 11:15:08 PM
Quote from: the salmon of knowledge on May 19, 2009, 09:13:09 PM
mackey and martin reilly donig the roaming seems to be whats going to take place, for me the tactic of a target man at FF is one to start the game with not deploy as a result of other things going wrong. it is not one i would use at all because fermanagh will just play a sweeper to mop up. givney will get there at senior grade, that is a certainty, but to go from one good season at JFC to spearheading the county teams championship lineup would be roy of the rovers stuff.
anyway who is going to deliver in this quality early ball to the FF line, for all the league games i have been at, noone this year has released early, good ball on a regular basis.
maybe some of you guys think different
There can be too much made of what grade of football lads play at.The bottom line is if he is good enough he can play at any level.Pat Spillane played at Junior level in Kerry and the last time I checked he was on the Team of Century and Millenium with 8 All-Ireland medals. Jason Reilly was one the most exciting talents to come on the scene with Cavan in years,he started out with Belturbet as Junior,Peter and Larry Reilly the same.
If a lad is good enough and works hard at his game to improve himself,what does it matter whether he is playing Senior or Junior.
David Givney can give Cavan options at Midfield,at 14 or as a half forward-we dont have many men who can do that for us.I don't think he will or should start but he is an excellent option to have,as shown by his display at midfield in the 2nd half in Newry.
McCutcheon,Paul the Gunner,Flanagan,Cullivan and Martin Reilly are all good passers of the ball,it just has to be drilled into them to hit it early,if thats the plan they are going with.

You definitely couldnt blame the CuCus for taking that stance. It really is an unbelievable situation though and it would only happen in Cavan. I wonder whats Niall Lynchs views on it?
Could somebody please tell me/remind me what happened at the Ramor game?
Salmon of Knowledge was informed that he didnt show up for the game.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on May 20, 2009, 12:19:33 PM
I've heard strange situations before about Keating, even when he was in school there used to be some crazy stuff going on about will he or will he not play with the team.

I do understand it is not him though, there is, lets say another influence that has a big say in what he does!

ITS crazy that he is not playing with his club though. Personally I feel he wont get a lot of pitch time in the coming weeks if thats the case, because I just dont see him starting with Cavan...certainly not at CB anyway
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on May 20, 2009, 11:08:27 PM
Quote from: put-it-up on May 20, 2009, 12:19:33 PM
I've heard strange situations before about Keating, even when he was in school there used to be some crazy stuff going on about will he or will he not play with the team.

I do understand it is not him though, there is, lets say another influence that has a big say in what he does!

ITS crazy that he is not playing with his club though. Personally I feel he wont get a lot of pitch time in the coming weeks if thats the case, because I just dont see him starting with Cavan...certainly not at CB anyway

Who is this other influence you speak off?? Is it a Bird,or is it a Plane??

On another note,heard David Givney was outstanding for Cavan Juniors last nite against Meath at Full-Forward.Couldnt handle him at all.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on May 21, 2009, 12:20:41 AM
sorry boojangles, its underdog! I think that is how the cartoon went.

Sorry I don't think it is right to say it on here! But who has a major say over a young man? I dont want to go into the in's and out's of it.

I am delighted David is hitting a bit of form. I know he took the early subbing against, correct me if I am wrong, Roscommon to heart. It really knocked his confidence.

Would be a nice impact sub against Fermanagh. Any other news from that game sir?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on May 21, 2009, 09:38:31 AM
Quote from: put-it-up on May 21, 2009, 12:20:41 AM
sorry boojangles, its underdog! I think that is how the cartoon went.

Sorry I don't think it is right to say it on here! But who has a major say over a young man? I dont want to go into the in's and out's of it.

I am delighted David is hitting a bit of form. I know he took the early subbing against, correct me if I am wrong, Roscommon to heart. It really knocked his confidence.

Would be a nice impact sub against Fermanagh. Any other news from that game sir?

It was against Roscommon,It was a an awful thing to do on a young lad,especially when our problem that day wasnt in our half forward line but anyway,good to hear he is back to form and can play a big part in the Fermanagh match if given the chance.

Didnt hear too much,Terry Hyland one corner,Tomas Reilly was full-back,Johnny Higgins centre half( who was actually asked in to the Senior set-up but declined),Enda McCormack wing half, Donal Thomas and Niall Madden centre field,Givney full-forward,didnt hear the rest.We won a few points. Who are the Juniors playing in the Championship anyway?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on May 21, 2009, 10:45:33 AM
Not so bad. Did I see Levi Murphy's name mentioned with them a couple of weeks ago? And I think Sean Maguire and John Tierney are still involved. They are playing Louth next Wednesday - Champions league final night!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: jimjim on May 21, 2009, 11:59:19 AM

Think the team was something like this. Not sure of a couple of the players or names.

Drumlane Goalie??
Terry Hyland
Tomas Reilly
Killenkere corner back
Enda Mc Cormack
J Higgins
Killenkere player - plays wing back/midfield for them
Donal Thomas
Niall Madden
Anton Reilly
Ronan Reilly
Brady - Lavey
????
Givney
????

Givney scored 5 points in 1st half. Brought out midfield but went out of the game then.
Were losing by 6 points and came back to win.
Sean Maguire was brought on midfield with Givney but was not working so brought out Higgins and then they started winning ball.
Eamon Costello and Levi Murphy came on.
Put Anton Reilly in FF and scored 2 goals.
They also had a number of players missing.
Good result so hopefully they can go on a run now.

















Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on May 21, 2009, 03:48:17 PM
who is Johnny Higgins lads?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on May 21, 2009, 04:04:39 PM
He played for Drumalee up til a few years ago, and had a stint with Cavan during that time. He then transferred to Belturbet a few years back but I hadn't heard of him playing much recently.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on May 21, 2009, 04:27:44 PM
Quote from: Homer on May 21, 2009, 04:04:39 PM
He played for Drumalee up til a few years ago, and had a stint with Cavan during that time. He then transferred to Belturbet a few years back but I hadn't heard of him playing much recently.

He had a bad neck injury i think and was out of the game for a long time.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on May 21, 2009, 07:43:43 PM
Quote from: jimjim on May 21, 2009, 11:59:19 AM

Think the team was something like this. Not sure of a couple of the players or names.

Drumlane Goalie??
Terry Hyland
Tomas Reilly
Killenkere corner back
Enda Mc Cormack
J Higgins
Killenkere player - plays wing back/midfield for them
Donal Thomas
Niall Madden
Anton Reilly
Ronan Reilly
Brady - Lavey
????
Givney
????

Givney scored 5 points in 1st half. Brought out midfield but went out of the game then.
Were losing by 6 points and came back to win.
Sean Maguire was brought on midfield with Givney but was not working so brought out Higgins and then they started winning ball.
Eamon Costello and Levi Murphy came on.
Put Anton Reilly in FF and scored 2 goals.
They also had a number of players missing.
Good result so hopefully they can go on a run now.


















Danny Kelly in goals?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on May 22, 2009, 12:44:04 PM
Any word on games off this weekend?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Mr. Pain on May 22, 2009, 02:10:02 PM
The comeback is nigh.......
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on May 22, 2009, 02:23:50 PM
Quote from: Mr. Pain on May 22, 2009, 02:10:02 PM
The comeback is nigh.......

:o
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: This Years Model on May 22, 2009, 02:38:03 PM
Lads, any of ye hear about a Challenge between Cavan and Wexford in Ballyboden/St Enda's this Sunday evening?
Would any of ye know what time?
Thanks.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on May 23, 2009, 01:31:19 PM
Quote from: cavan4ever on May 21, 2009, 04:27:44 PM
Quote from: Homer on May 21, 2009, 04:04:39 PM
He played for Drumalee up til a few years ago, and had a stint with Cavan during that time. He then transferred to Belturbet a few years back but I hadn't heard of him playing much recently.

He had a bad neck injury i think and was out of the game for a long time.

He broke a bone in his neck in his 1st year with Belturbet and was very very lucky he wasnt paralysed.He works as a Prison warden in St Pats in Dublin so he was playing feck all until lately.Hear he is playing great stuff at the moment.One of the fittest players I ever seen.
It wasnt Danny Kelly in goals,it was the other Drumlane keeper,hes from Fermanagh-dunno his name.

They are giving for the weather to pick up this evening,didnt hear of any games off.We are playing Shercock in Corduff.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on May 23, 2009, 01:42:33 PM
Looks like Fintain is going to be in goals for cavan in the championship, james is acting the bollox.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on May 23, 2009, 01:58:20 PM
Quote from: cavan4ever on May 23, 2009, 01:42:33 PM
Looks like Fintain is going to be in goals for cavan in the championship, james is acting the bollox.

How so?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on May 23, 2009, 02:29:24 PM
Quote from: cavan4ever on May 23, 2009, 01:42:33 PM
Looks like Fintain is going to be in goals for cavan in the championship, james is acting the bollox.
Sure he's trying to move into his house. How would he have time for football? ;D

Quote from: boojangles on May 23, 2009, 01:31:19 PM
Quote from: cavan4ever on May 21, 2009, 04:27:44 PM
Quote from: Homer on May 21, 2009, 04:04:39 PM
He played for Drumalee up til a few years ago, and had a stint with Cavan during that time. He then transferred to Belturbet a few years back but I hadn't heard of him playing much recently.

He had a bad neck injury i think and was out of the game for a long time.

He broke a bone in his neck in his 1st year with Belturbet and was very very lucky he wasnt paralysed.He works as a Prison warden in St Pats in Dublin so he was playing feck all until lately.Hear he is playing great stuff at the moment.One of the fittest players I ever seen.
It wasnt Danny Kelly in goals,it was the other Drumlane keeper,hes from Fermanagh-dunno his name.

They are giving for the weather to pick up this evening,didnt hear of any games off.We are playing Shercock in Corduff.
Starting to piss down here in Cavan Town so I'm not so sure about that.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on May 23, 2009, 02:52:39 PM
Quote from: Lawrence of Knockbride on May 23, 2009, 02:29:24 PM
Quote from: cavan4ever on May 23, 2009, 01:42:33 PM
Looks like Fintain is going to be in goals for cavan in the championship, james is acting the bollox.
Sure he's trying to move into his house. How would he have time for football? ;D

Quote from: boojangles on May 23, 2009, 01:31:19 PM
Quote from: cavan4ever on May 21, 2009, 04:27:44 PM
Quote from: Homer on May 21, 2009, 04:04:39 PM
He played for Drumalee up til a few years ago, and had a stint with Cavan during that time. He then transferred to Belturbet a few years back but I hadn't heard of him playing much recently.

He had a bad neck injury i think and was out of the game for a long time.

He broke a bone in his neck in his 1st year with Belturbet and was very very lucky he wasnt paralysed.He works as a Prison warden in St Pats in Dublin so he was playing feck all until lately.Hear he is playing great stuff at the moment.One of the fittest players I ever seen.
It wasnt Danny Kelly in goals,it was the other Drumlane keeper,hes from Fermanagh-dunno his name.

They are giving for the weather to pick up this evening,didnt hear of any games off.We are playing Shercock in Corduff.
Starting to piss down here in Cavan Town so I'm not so sure about that.

I think I mentioned that about James before and nobody believed me!has there been another twist in the story?!

I heard Carr and Lynch just aren't impressed with him at all.

Hope the rain keeps off, I'm home for the weekend and want to see my boys make it nine from nine!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on May 23, 2009, 03:55:24 PM
If he is acting the bollox them leave him the fu*k where he is. There should be no place for boys that aren't willing to give 100%, expecially with the biggest game of the yr only a few weeks away. He'd want to think too that in two weeks Cavan will be on TV and if he is not in goals that will be a major talking point amongst the media and I'm sure the story will get out.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on May 23, 2009, 04:01:21 PM
Cootehill Knockbride game off... Bloody weather - haven't had a game in 4 weeks :(
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on May 23, 2009, 04:09:18 PM
Miller is a very laid back character, who Im sure can be very frustrating to manage at times but lets be honest we need his presence.In most Championship games he saves at least one certain goal.That is invaluable and theres no better shot stopper in the country IMO.He may not be the most energetic but when it comes to the big day he rarely lets Cavan down,which is what a lad should b judged on.Some boys need to be handled differently than most,but if it means making the odd exception for somebody like James then I think its worth it,for what he brings to the team.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on May 23, 2009, 04:20:45 PM
Quote from: boojangles on May 23, 2009, 04:09:18 PM
Miller is a very laid back character, who Im sure can be very frustrating to manage at times but lets be honest we need his presence.In most Championship games he saves at least one certain goal.That is invaluable and theres no better shot stopper in the country IMO.He may not be the most energetic but when it comes to the big day he rarely lets Cavan down,which is what a lad should b judged on.Some boys need to be handled differently than most,but if it means making the odd exception for somebody like James then I think its worth it,for what he brings to the team.
Same could be said for McKeever and even more so for McCabe...
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on May 23, 2009, 04:22:06 PM
Miller supposedly refused to take part in some aspect of Training Carr insisted he  do.
Anyone know what this included?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on May 23, 2009, 04:26:56 PM
Quote from: Celt_Man on May 23, 2009, 04:20:45 PM
Quote from: boojangles on May 23, 2009, 04:09:18 PM
Miller is a very laid back character, who Im sure can be very frustrating to manage at times but lets be honest we need his presence.In most Championship games he saves at least one certain goal.That is invaluable and theres no better shot stopper in the country IMO.He may not be the most energetic but when it comes to the big day he rarely lets Cavan down,which is what a lad should b judged on.Some boys need to be handled differently than most,but if it means making the odd exception for somebody like James then I think its worth it,for what he brings to the team.
Same could be said for McKeever and even more so for McCabe...

Have to disagree CM, Miller had a disagreement with Carr over training drills,
The Two Gowna men had more serious problems in regard to discipline
McKeever went on a Binge when he wasnt supposed to,
This reportedly happened in previous years aswell.
McCabe 's reported relationship with and attitudes towards some other players,
Pierce McKenna and James Clarke being two prominent examples left alot to be desired.
He also didnt bother turning up to a key Pre Championship tune up game.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on May 23, 2009, 06:13:34 PM
Quote from: boojangles on May 23, 2009, 04:09:18 PM
Miller is a very laid back character, who Im sure can be very frustrating to manage at times but lets be honest we need his presence.In most Championship games he saves at least one certain goal.That is invaluable and theres no better shot stopper in the country IMO.He may not be the most energetic but when it comes to the big day he rarely lets Cavan down,which is what a lad should b judged on.Some boys need to be handled differently than most,but if it means making the odd exception for somebody like James then I think its worth it,for what he brings to the team.

No personal offence intended boojangles, but this is the sort of hare-brained short term thinking that has Cavan in the mire we're in.

There are too many people out there, and you're not alone, being critical of Carr for giving gate to the likes of McKeever, McCabe and Miller, if it's true, because all they think about is the next match. Time and time again, managers thinking only of the next game and the football equivalent of the fast buck, indulged shitehawkers and leadswingers who - and just look at our record in the last few years for evidence - drag the thing down in the long term, irrespective of what they might do on a 'big day.'

f**k the big day, that's what I say.

The health of the county football team in Cavan and the liklihood of some sort of success in TC's reign, doesn't begin and end with one or two players who deign to come down from their pedestal and bless us with a big contribution on the big day. It's a year round, hard training, disciplined and proudful approach we need. League, challenges, winter nights hard training, that's what the lads have to sign up for, and most of all, sign up for a good dose of doing what the f**k they're told by the manager, and if they can't sign up to it, then leave and let someone else take their place. They'll go with the thanks of supporters who recognise that not everyone can make the commitment necessary. With patience, we'll be a hell of a lot better off in two seasons time, with a full squad of team players, than we would be by repeating the ills of previous years and constantly giving a stream of second chances to admittedly very talented players who keep shitting on their own doorstep time and time again in different ways. Everybody is equal and that's that. I obviously don't know what went on with Miller re: training drills, but would it kill any of our superstars to respect the team manager, be a team player and just do as he instructs?

Either we're serious about discipline or we're not. Either we're serious about not carrying passengers or we're not. Either we see the big picture and think long term, or we put a one-off game before the health of the county team for years to come.

If we have to lose a few games because the top players haven't committed, so be it. In my opinion, we'll be better for it in seasons to come.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on May 23, 2009, 08:19:29 PM
Put it up/ Cavanmaniac - I agree totally. Its not enough to turn up for training - it has to be put in. If Miller or anyone else doesn't want to do drills or fitness tests then fine, go back playing for their club and let some young lad come  in that wants to play. The alternative is to send out a message that if your good enough you can do whatever you like. Thats where we were and thats where we need to move away from.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on May 23, 2009, 09:54:40 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on May 23, 2009, 08:19:29 PM
Put it up/ Cavanmaniac - I agree totally. Its not enough to turn up for training - it has to be put in. If Miller or anyone else doesn't want to do drills or fitness tests then fine, go back playing for their club and let some young lad come  in that wants to play. The alternative is to send out a message that if your good enough you can do whatever you like. Thats where we were and thats where we need to move away from.

we can put the boxing gloves away now :)

No offence intended, but I really don't think Fintan is up to the task of the Ulster Championship match. Think he would be a bit of a liability.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on May 23, 2009, 10:08:50 PM
Whether he is up to it or not is irrelevant. The question is who is the best goalie available to the team. If Reilly is acting the p***k then Fintan is the man for the job. He hasn't done much wrong in any game I've seen him in.

Couple of results from today...

Div 1

C'Lough 0-7 Cavan Gaels 0-08
Lacken 3-7 Lavey 1-12

Div 2

Shercock 1-8 Drumalee 1-9
Drumlane 3-10 C'Lough 1-6
Killinkere 2-7 Killeshandra 1-11
Kingscourt 0-16 Cavan Gaels 0-02

Div 3

B'boro 3-10 Templeport 0-07
Kildallan 0-6 B'bridge 0-09
Swad 2-9 Shannon Gaels 0-15
Arva 0-6 Cornafean 0-09

Any game not listed was postponed due to weather.

Leaguers and Kingscourt steaming ahead in Div 2
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on May 24, 2009, 02:08:03 AM
Quote from: cavanmaniac on May 23, 2009, 06:13:34 PM
Quote from: boojangles on May 23, 2009, 04:09:18 PM
Miller is a very laid back character, who Im sure can be very frustrating to manage at times but lets be honest we need his presence.In most Championship games he saves at least one certain goal.That is invaluable and theres no better shot stopper in the country IMO.He may not be the most energetic but when it comes to the big day he rarely lets Cavan down,which is what a lad should b judged on.Some boys need to be handled differently than most,but if it means making the odd exception for somebody like James then I think its worth it,for what he brings to the team.

No personal offence intended boojangles, but this is the sort of hare-brained short term thinking that has Cavan in the mire we're in.

There are too many people out there, and you're not alone, being critical of Carr for giving gate to the likes of McKeever, McCabe and Miller, if it's true, because all they think about is the next match. Time and time again, managers thinking only of the next game and the football equivalent of the fast buck, indulged shitehawkers and leadswingers who - and just look at our record in the last few years for evidence - drag the thing down in the long term, irrespective of what they might do on a 'big day.'

f**k the big day, that's what I say.

The health of the county football team in Cavan and the liklihood of some sort of success in TC's reign, doesn't begin and end with one or two players who deign to come down from their pedestal and bless us with a big contribution on the big day. It's a year round, hard training, disciplined and proudful approach we need. League, challenges, winter nights hard training, that's what the lads have to sign up for, and most of all, sign up for a good dose of doing what the f**k they're told by the manager, and if they can't sign up to it, then leave and let someone else take their place. They'll go with the thanks of supporters who recognise that not everyone can make the commitment necessary. With patience, we'll be a hell of a lot better off in two seasons time, with a full squad of team players, than we would be by repeating the ills of previous years and constantly giving a stream of second chances to admittedly very talented players who keep shitting on their own doorstep time and time again in different ways. Everybody is equal and that's that. I obviously don't know what went on with Miller re: training drills, but would it kill any of our superstars to respect the team manager, be a team player and just do as he instructs?

Either we're serious about discipline or we're not. Either we're serious about not carrying passengers or we're not. Either we see the big picture and think long term, or we put a one-off game before the health of the county team for years to come.

If we have to lose a few games because the top players haven't committed, so be it. In my opinion, we'll be better for it in seasons to come.

Thats the passion we need CavanManiac,but I think you misread what I was getting at there.I probably posted too soon because I dont know what went on with Miller.I dont know that he missed sessions or whats the story,I know he didnt play against us last week so he must be injured.All I picked up was that their was a clash of personalities with TC .I think James needs to be handled a bit differently but there are players like that with every county,if you read Mickey Hartes or Jack O Connors books,even the top counties have the lads that need constant motivating.But for a man of James Reillys ability then it is worth it.I never said that he should be let miss trainings or do his own thing. If he is missing trainings or not training hard then I totally agree with everything you said. We are far better off picking a committed 15 than 15 stars who aren't willing to put in the work all year round.

Never did I ask for McCabe or McKeever to be brought back in to the panel.I questioned the way McKeever was dropped,as there was more than 1 player that broke the rules that time.But I said that it was McKeevers second chance and they were right.

We bet Shercock tonight in a tight game as usual.6 points down in 2nd half but thanks to Gary Ferncombe in particular,we scraped a win.
Some county lads were playing tonight with their clubs which is good to hear.A competitive game will them no harm.

When are Cavan playing Wexford?

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Western Blue on May 24, 2009, 10:14:41 AM
Let the Cull begin.!! Roy Keane ,Alex Ferguson Martin McHugh and Martin O'Neill  dont tolerate big egos .  Let T.C. put out those players that put in the work since Jan. The team that plays Wexford tonight in Dublin will be the team to play Fermanagh.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on May 24, 2009, 11:24:45 AM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on May 23, 2009, 04:22:06 PM
Miller supposedly refused to take part in some aspect of Training Carr insisted he  do.
Anyone know what this included?


I'd say it involved working up a sweat.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on May 24, 2009, 12:14:53 PM
where is the game tonight lads and what time is it at? If you let me know Il try get out to it and see how it goes!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on May 24, 2009, 01:40:31 PM
Quote from: This Years Model on May 22, 2009, 02:38:03 PM
Lads, any of ye hear about a Challenge between Cavan and Wexford in Ballyboden/St Enda's this Sunday evening?
Would any of ye know what time?
Thanks.

Put it up - See above.

Red n black said its on at 7pm.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on May 24, 2009, 01:48:03 PM
Match is in Ballyboden at 7.00

Quote from: mylestheslasher on May 23, 2009, 10:08:50 PMC'Lough 0-7 Cavan Gaels 0-08

Supposedly this match actually finished a draw but the scoreboard had it wrong and everyone left thinking that was the result
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on May 24, 2009, 04:25:21 PM
Quote from: boojangles on May 24, 2009, 02:08:03 AM
Thats the passion we need CavanManiac,but I think you misread what I was getting at there.I probably posted too soon because I dont know what went on with Miller.I dont know that he missed sessions or whats the story,I know he didnt play against us last week so he must be injured.All I picked up was that their was a clash of personalities with TC .I think James needs to be handled a bit differently but there are players like that with every county,if you read Mickey Hartes or Jack O Connors books,even the top counties have the lads that need constant motivating.But for a man of James Reillys ability then it is worth it.I never said that he should be let miss trainings or do his own thing. If he is missing trainings or not training hard then I totally agree with everything you said. We are far better off picking a committed 15 than 15 stars who aren't willing to put in the work all year round.

Fair play for the restrained response boojangles, reading my own post back I probably came across a bit narky and I didn't intend that, it's just that this is a particular hobby horse of mine for a long time now and I tend to get up on the old soapbox about it! ;D

I don't disagree with you in the slightest that certain players need to be handled differently to get the best out of them, but always and only within the confines of the rules that every player is asked to adhere to. Not doing as instructed in training would be a no-no in that regard, and if he got gate for it or whatever, then it's nobody's fault but his own.

Btw, when I mentioned McCabe and McKeever I wasn't referring to you specifically, more to general comments and vibes I pick up discussing the matter with various people and reading about it etc.

It's hard to accept having to do without good players but they effectively take the decision themselves when they act the maggot, and I'm more pleased than not to finally see a manager laying down the law and taking no shit. It's what we all prayed for and although TC's unlikely to win anything with us, his legacy will hopefully be the decent foundation he leaves behind for the managers that follow him.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on May 25, 2009, 08:36:09 AM
Thanks Put-It-Up. You really should look for a job with some of the local partners. Can you just clear up that it was Sean Brady at wing-forward and not The Gunner? Is the latter around for the Fermanagh game?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on May 25, 2009, 08:40:19 AM
Quote from: Lawrence of Knockbride on May 25, 2009, 08:36:09 AM
Thanks Put-It-Up. You really should look for a job with some of the local partners. Can you just clear up that it was Sean Brady at wing-forward and not The Gunner? Is the latter around for the Fermanagh game?

I'll presume it was Sean Brady. 

Does anyone else wonder how he is on the panel ?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: whats my name on May 25, 2009, 10:19:24 AM
who else came on put it up and how did they do?? was eoin smith playing are full back line is a major concern coming into championship our backs could cost us a good win over fermanagh if they dont get their finger out!!!!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on May 25, 2009, 10:29:32 AM
Quote from: Lawrence of Knockbride on May 25, 2009, 08:36:09 AM
Thanks Put-It-Up. You really should look for a job with some of the local partners. Can you just clear up that it was Sean Brady at wing-forward and not The Gunner? Is the latter around for the Fermanagh game?

Ah no Lawrence dont make me blush!

Yes it was Sean Brady and he was deplorable. Done nothing at all and I really just don't get what people see in him..Have never once seen him play well in blue.

As far as I know Gunner is away for the Fermanagh which is a loss. More or less everybody game on bar Eoin Smith and Tomas Reilly. Don't think Dunne or Jayo were togged from were I was standing.

From the team that started I reckon that will be the one to start against Fermanagh bar Brady and Brides. When Wexford were making loads of subs car gave the starting 15 the bulk of 55 minutes.

If Pierson is fit, id have him in CF and bring Martin out to replace Brady. With regards to the full-back line.....It is about as solid as jelly
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on May 25, 2009, 02:30:48 PM
Fannin or Eoin Smith in for Brides
Pierson for Sean Brady

Long time since Cavan has had any line other than midfield filled with lads over 6ft like that half back line.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Drung on May 25, 2009, 03:31:26 PM
I don't think McCutcheon is 6ft Ballyhaise man?
And Keating definitely isn't.
Padraig Reilly is about 6ft 1 I would think.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on May 25, 2009, 03:37:21 PM
Quote from: Drung on May 25, 2009, 03:31:26 PM
I don't think McCutcheon is 6ft Ballyhaise man?
And Keating definitely isn't.
Padraig Reilly is about 6ft 1 I would think.

I would think McCutcheon is  over the 6ft mark Drung,played against him a few weeks ago,and last year twice,Hes not massive by any means,but hes a decent size.
I havent seen much of him,but would have thought Keating is around the 6ft mark,although ive never been on the same field as him so im open to correction on him or McCutcheon if im wrong.
Podge is definetely over 6ft as you say
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on May 25, 2009, 07:01:08 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on May 25, 2009, 03:37:21 PM
Quote from: Drung on May 25, 2009, 03:31:26 PM
I don't think McCutcheon is 6ft Ballyhaise man?
And Keating definitely isn't.
Padraig Reilly is about 6ft 1 I would think.

I would think McCutcheon is  over the 6ft mark Drung,played against him a few weeks ago,and last year twice,Hes not massive by any means,but hes a decent size.
I havent seen much of him,but would have thought Keating is around the 6ft mark,although ive never been on the same field as him so im open to correction on him or McCutcheon if im wrong.
Podge is definetely over 6ft as you say


All three would be the guts of six foot. In fact I walked past McCutheon earlier in dublin and he is defo over 6 foot. What is more interesting to me is that even though they are big, they are all comfortable on the ball.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on May 25, 2009, 07:05:44 PM
The 3 men are all around 6 foot.McCutcheon and Keating are anyway,Podge is around 5' '11'
Paul the Gunner is a massive loss.Don't know if Keating will cut it at centre half,he is too greedy IMO and your centre half back has to be a great passer of the ball,but obviously defensively minded-something Im not sure Keating is.Its not just a position you can adapt to straight away,and for a man who has played most his football at Midfield or forward,I would be worried about throwing him in there in Championship football.

It looks like its gonna be Sheridan at Full-Back.So I really hope that TC has the cop on to play our 2 most experienced backs alongside him in Hannon and Fannin.While Fannin is not a natural corner back and probably too good of a footballer for there,he has played there for years now with Cavan and has very rarely let us down.Some people on here have reservations about Hannon,well I definitely don't.Michael Hannon has been Cavans best and most consistent defender for the last 5 years,he is always the one given the toughest jobs and the man-marking jobs and 90% of the time he does not let us down.A definite starter in my book.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on May 25, 2009, 09:28:57 PM
Put It Up. Could you describe Larrys goal for us please, I hear it was something special!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Hollow Man on May 25, 2009, 10:36:35 PM
Hello everyone! :-*

Call the Fermanagh game right now, on the facts we have:

- Fermanagh are no great shakes but have a great system
- our forwards are decent, midfield is settled but defence is dire
- we have no freetaker and can't score goals to save our lives
- they have shown themselves to be reliable in tight games, we are known for being flakey over the last few years
- we have home advantage and traditionally don't fear Fermanaagh
- we have Jelly

I'll say Cavan 1-12 Fermanagh 1-13.

Unfortunately.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on May 25, 2009, 10:43:03 PM
Quote from: Hollow Man on May 25, 2009, 10:36:35 PM
Hello everyone! :-*

Call the Fermanagh game right now, on the facts we have:

- Fermanagh are no great shakes but have a great system
- our forwards are decent, midfield is settled but defence is dire
- we have no freetaker and can't score goals to save our lives
- they have shown themselves to be reliable in tight games, we are known for being flakey over the last few years
- we have home advantage and traditionally don't fear Fermanaagh
- we have Jelly

I'll say Cavan 1-12 Fermanagh 1-13.

Unfortunately.

We really missed you - hope you are going to be good. One point thats worth noting is that we have as good a freetaker if not better than Fermanagh in Jelly. It'll be tight I'd say.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on May 25, 2009, 11:17:56 PM
Quote from: Hollow Man on May 25, 2009, 10:36:35 PM
Hello everyone! :-*

Call the Fermanagh game right now, on the facts we have:

- Fermanagh are no great shakes but have a great system
- our forwards are decent, midfield is settled but defence is dire
- we have no freetaker and can't score goals to save our lives
- they have shown themselves to be reliable in tight games, we are known for being flakey over the last few years
- we have home advantage and traditionally don't fear Fermanaagh
- we have Jelly

I'll say Cavan 1-12 Fermanagh 1-13.

Unfortunately.


welcome back HM, how are things in the Ramor camp this year?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on May 25, 2009, 11:58:49 PM
Im rubbing myeyes in disbelief :o :o :o :o.Hollow Man.I thought it was the last we heard of you.Hard to keep a good thing down ha  :P :P
Hope U and BHMan can b friends this summer!

Ye I really hope some peoples optimism about our chances against Fermanagh isnt misplaced.It is gonna be tight and a point or 2 either way should decide it. The last time we bet Fermanagh was in 98 in Breifne,and we were very lucky that day.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on May 26, 2009, 08:09:03 AM
Quote from: boojangles on May 25, 2009, 11:58:49 PM
Im rubbing myeyes in disbelief :o :o :o :o.Hollow Man.I thought it was the last we heard of you.Hard to keep a good thing down ha  :P :P
Hope U and BHMan can b friends this summer!

Ye I really hope some peoples optimism about our chances against Fermanagh isnt misplaced.It is gonna be tight and a point or 2 either way should decide it. The last time we bet Fermanagh was in 98 in Breifne,and we were very lucky that day.

We were lucky to beat them in 97 too. Anthony Forde equaliser must have been 5 mins into injury time in Clones.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on May 26, 2009, 08:42:16 AM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on May 26, 2009, 08:09:03 AM
Quote from: boojangles on May 25, 2009, 11:58:49 PM
Im rubbing myeyes in disbelief :o :o :o :o.Hollow Man.I thought it was the last we heard of you.Hard to keep a good thing down ha  :P :P
Hope U and BHMan can b friends this summer!

Ye I really hope some peoples optimism about our chances against Fermanagh isnt misplaced.It is gonna be tight and a point or 2 either way should decide it. The last time we bet Fermanagh was in 98 in Breifne,and we were very lucky that day.

We were lucky to beat them in 97 too. Anthony Forde equaliser must have been 5 mins into injury time in Clones.
Bernard Morris, no?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on May 26, 2009, 09:04:02 AM
Quote from: Lawrence of Knockbride on May 26, 2009, 08:42:16 AM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on May 26, 2009, 08:09:03 AM
Quote from: boojangles on May 25, 2009, 11:58:49 PM
Im rubbing myeyes in disbelief :o :o :o :o.Hollow Man.I thought it was the last we heard of you.Hard to keep a good thing down ha  :P :P
Hope U and BHMan can b friends this summer!

Ye I really hope some peoples optimism about our chances against Fermanagh isnt misplaced.It is gonna be tight and a point or 2 either way should decide it. The last time we bet Fermanagh was in 98 in Breifne,and we were very lucky that day.

We were lucky to beat them in 97 too. Anthony Forde equaliser must have been 5 mins into injury time in Clones.


Bernard Morris, no?

Bernard Morris!!! Are you mad.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BREANDRUM on May 26, 2009, 11:10:49 AM
Cavan v Fermanagh throw-in has been moved to 5.30pm so as not to clash with Ireland v Bulgaria soccer match
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on May 26, 2009, 12:00:33 PM
Quote from: Lawrence of Knockbride on May 26, 2009, 08:42:16 AM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on May 26, 2009, 08:09:03 AM
Quote from: boojangles on May 25, 2009, 11:58:49 PM
Im rubbing myeyes in disbelief :o :o :o :o.Hollow Man.I thought it was the last we heard of you.Hard to keep a good thing down ha  :P :P
Hope U and BHMan can b friends this summer!

Ye I really hope some peoples optimism about our chances against Fermanagh isnt misplaced.It is gonna be tight and a point or 2 either way should decide it. The last time we bet Fermanagh was in 98 in Breifne,and we were very lucky that day.

We were lucky to beat them in 97 too. Anthony Forde equaliser must have been 5 mins into injury time in Clones.
Bernard Morris, no?

Jesus Lawrence,I know its been 12 years but Bernard Morris. :o :o How could U ever forget Fordes point.

Maybe the Ulster Council have moved into the 21st century,moving the game forward.Very wise decision,and should make for a great Saturday evening. You would know that a certain Drumalee man is not making decisions on the Ulster Council anymore anyway.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on May 26, 2009, 12:26:08 PM
Seems that we have a fairly good idea what the line-out will be on Saturday week. I'm really feeling un-easy about Keating at CHB, He's just not a defender and I think Carr is only going with him there as he likes his distribution and range from the boot. He's a cool customer, but IMO he takes too long on the ball and could be really found out in the intensity of Ulster-Championship.

Larry's goal at the weekend was suppose to have been really something to behold. Apparently he took a pass through the centre at full tilt didn't even bother selling the full-back a dummy just went by him before he knew anything about it and sent an absolute humdinger past the keeper. G'wan Larry!!  ;D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on May 26, 2009, 01:02:09 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on May 25, 2009, 09:28:57 PM
Put It Up. Could you describe Larrys goal for us please, I hear it was something special!

Looking at the goal, there is definetly life in the old dog yet. Many blasted Carr for bringing him back in but I have said all along he is a great impact sub to have. Imagine him coming on for the last ten minutes against Fermanagh,,he will give the whole place a lift.

He got the ball about 40 yards out in the middle, saw there was little support and I presume he said to himself f*ck it! Cos he put the head down and took off like a hare. He was past the two defenders before the knew they had been 'Larried' and he sent a rocket past the keeper. Was an absolute cracker of a goal. 
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on May 26, 2009, 01:06:33 PM
Quote from: put-it-up on May 26, 2009, 01:02:09 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on May 25, 2009, 09:28:57 PM
Put It Up. Could you describe Larrys goal for us please, I hear it was something special!

Looking at the goal, there is definetly life in the old dog yet. Many blasted Carr for bringing him back in but I have said all along he is a great impact sub to have. Imagine him coming on for the last ten minutes against Fermanagh,,he will give the whole place a lift.

He got the ball about 40 yards out in the middle, saw there was little support and I presume he said to himself f*ck it! Cos he put the head down and took off like a hare. He was past the two defenders before the knew they had been 'Larried' and he sent a rocket past the keeper. Was an absolute cracker of a goal. 

There no greater sight in the GAA than Larry taking off. Then its a case of whether he hits the top corner or the corner flag :D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on May 26, 2009, 01:31:39 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on May 26, 2009, 01:06:33 PM
Quote from: put-it-up on May 26, 2009, 01:02:09 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on May 25, 2009, 09:28:57 PM
Put It Up. Could you describe Larrys goal for us please, I hear it was something special!

Looking at the goal, there is definetly life in the old dog yet. Many blasted Carr for bringing him back in but I have said all along he is a great impact sub to have. Imagine him coming on for the last ten minutes against Fermanagh,,he will give the whole place a lift.

He got the ball about 40 yards out in the middle, saw there was little support and I presume he said to himself f*ck it! Cos he put the head down and took off like a hare. He was past the two defenders before the knew they had been 'Larried' and he sent a rocket past the keeper. Was an absolute cracker of a goal. 

There no greater sight in the GAA than Larry taking off. Then its a case of whether he hits the top corner or the corner flag :D

It puts a smile on my face every time ;D Pretty sure he is going to be a sub but it what I wanted him to be all along anyway. Someone mentioned Keating aswell. What is the Fermanagh CF like?if he is a ball-carrier a potential roasting could be on the cards, because Keating, defensively anyway, is not ready for IC level yet
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Bongo on May 26, 2009, 01:41:44 PM
He got the ball about 40 yards out in the middle, saw there was little support and I presume he said to himself f*ck it! Cos he put the head down and took off like a hare.

Wait.... Larry actually "LOOKED" and saw there was no support!!!.... That's a first. He'd normally just "put the head down and take off like a hare"  :D :D :D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on May 26, 2009, 01:47:31 PM
Quote from: boojangles on May 26, 2009, 12:00:33 PM
Quote from: Lawrence of Knockbride on May 26, 2009, 08:42:16 AM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on May 26, 2009, 08:09:03 AM
Quote from: boojangles on May 25, 2009, 11:58:49 PM
Im rubbing myeyes in disbelief :o :o :o :o.Hollow Man.I thought it was the last we heard of you.Hard to keep a good thing down ha  :P :P
Hope U and BHMan can b friends this summer!

Ye I really hope some peoples optimism about our chances against Fermanagh isnt misplaced.It is gonna be tight and a point or 2 either way should decide it. The last time we bet Fermanagh was in 98 in Breifne,and we were very lucky that day.

We were lucky to beat them in 97 too. Anthony Forde equaliser must have been 5 mins into injury time in Clones.
Bernard Morris, no?

Jesus Lawrence,I know its been 12 years but Bernard Morris. :o :o How could U ever forget Fordes point.

Maybe the Ulster Council have moved into the 21st century,moving the game forward.Very wise decision,and should make for a great Saturday evening. You would know that a certain Drumalee man is not making decisions on the Ulster Council anymore anyway.
Woeful memory Boojangles but I could have swore Morris kicked an unlikely equaliser for us against someone at Clones around that time. Am I mixing it up with some other game or just losing the head altogehter? :-\
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on May 26, 2009, 01:49:55 PM
I only ever remember Morris scoring once for Cavan. He took a shot from in front of the posts about 30 meters out, it got blocked, went up in the air and crept over the bar. For the life of me I can't remember who it was against or when.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on May 26, 2009, 02:13:35 PM
I suppose while we're being nostalgic today...

Antrim 1995 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0r7JuD4E1h0&fmt=18) (Peter Reilly's two cracking goals)

Monaghan 1995 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pCypo6oeRsw&fmt=18) (Unstoppable Fintan Cahill, and POD saves the day)

Antrim 1996 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ooO3TSer8o0&fmt=18) (young Jayo making amends)

Armagh 04 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R9Wu8DPoLcc&fmt=18) (a not so happy finish but we gave them a fight)

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on May 26, 2009, 08:45:29 PM
There only expecting 10-11 k at this game,  thats small for neighbouring counties.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on May 26, 2009, 08:47:10 PM
Quote from: cavan4ever on May 26, 2009, 08:45:29 PM
There only expecting 10-11 k at this game,  thats small for neighbouring counties.

I reckon there will be 20k as long as the weather holds.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on May 26, 2009, 10:36:24 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on May 26, 2009, 08:47:10 PM
Quote from: cavan4ever on May 26, 2009, 08:45:29 PM
There only expecting 10-11 k at this game,  thats small for neighbouring counties.

I reckon there will be 20k as long as the weather holds.
I reckone there will be 20k and Bernard Morris will score the winning point. :P
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on May 26, 2009, 10:44:50 PM
Quote from: Lawrence of Knockbride on May 26, 2009, 10:36:24 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on May 26, 2009, 08:47:10 PM
Quote from: cavan4ever on May 26, 2009, 08:45:29 PM
There only expecting 10-11 k at this game,  thats small for neighbouring counties.

I reckon there will be 20k as long as the weather holds.
I reckone there will be 20k and Bernard Morris will score the winning point. :P

Do not mock mystic Myles.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: the salmon of knowledge on May 26, 2009, 11:32:18 PM
sorry lads but have to be honest here, we made a bad hand of attempting to get out of DIVISION 3 yes thats division 3 lads.
at some stages in the league we really did play puke football.
i hope i am wrong but i dont see much hope, sorry to drag the mood of optisim down, but Fermanagh, with one game under their belt already, actually have a system of play, are alot fitter than Cavan IMO and this stupid notion that we have a divine right to beat them cause we have better footballers??
what sets the bench mark for the marking system for better footballers???
the divison you play in and results in the last AI does for me anyway.
once again i hope to be proved seriously wrong....
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on May 27, 2009, 01:06:46 PM
Quote from: the salmon of knowledge on May 26, 2009, 11:32:18 PM
sorry lads but have to be honest here, we made a bad hand of attempting to get out of DIVISION 3 yes thats division 3 lads.
at some stages in the league we really did play puke football.
i hope i am wrong but i dont see much hope, sorry to drag the mood of optisim down, but Fermanagh, with one game under their belt already, actually have a system of play, are alot fitter than Cavan IMO and this stupid notion that we have a divine right to beat them cause we have better footballers??
what sets the bench mark for the marking system for better footballers???
the divison you play in and results in the last AI does for me anyway.
once again i hope to be proved seriously wrong....

Nothing like a dose of Realism-but its hard to argue with the facts alright.From last years team,we have lost McCabe,Forde and Paul the Gunner wont be playing either.Thats 3 hard lads to replace,and I am seriously worried about our half back line.Id still take Bernard Morris at CHB though,wasnt the best footballer in the world but God he was some animal,we don't have anybody like him to enforce a bit of rough justice.

What do lads think of our Minors chances on Saturday? I havent seen them all year and would only know a handful of footballers on the team.Kevin Tierney is out with glandular fever I hear,he will be a big loss.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on May 27, 2009, 01:26:33 PM
Quote from: boojangles on May 27, 2009, 01:06:46 PM
Quote from: the salmon of knowledge on May 26, 2009, 11:32:18 PM
sorry lads but have to be honest here, we made a bad hand of attempting to get out of DIVISION 3 yes thats division 3 lads.
at some stages in the league we really did play puke football.
i hope i am wrong but i dont see much hope, sorry to drag the mood of optisim down, but Fermanagh, with one game under their belt already, actually have a system of play, are alot fitter than Cavan IMO and this stupid notion that we have a divine right to beat them cause we have better footballers??
what sets the bench mark for the marking system for better footballers???
the divison you play in and results in the last AI does for me anyway.
once again i hope to be proved seriously wrong....

Nothing like a dose of Realism-but its hard to argue with the facts alright.From last years team,we have lost McCabe,Forde and Paul the Gunner wont be playing either.Thats 3 hard lads to replace,and I am seriously worried about our half back line.Id still take Bernard Morris at CHB though,wasnt the best footballer in the world but God he was some animal,we don't have anybody like him to enforce a bit of rough justice.

What do lads think of our Minors chances on Saturday? I havent seen them all year and would only know a handful of footballers on the team.Kevin Tierney is out with glandular fever I hear,he will be a big loss.

Stats are fine but Limerick did just beat Tipperary after a league campaign that wouldn't have suggested that result.

Tierney will be a huge loss to the minors and I hear Shane Reilly broke ribs last week so he must be doubtful too.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: jimjim on May 27, 2009, 02:13:57 PM
Heard Tierney was missing, massive loss. Minors going thru a bad run, but every other year they were going well then collapsed so hopefully they can perform this year... See Louth V Cavan in the Leinster Junior Championship Thurs @ 7:30 in Dundalk.
Anyone heading to this? Any word on the team? Seems like a very strong panel..
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on May 27, 2009, 02:20:54 PM
JimJim junior match against Louth is on tomorrow night not tonight
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: jimjim on May 27, 2009, 02:32:32 PM
Got mixed up there, Thanks Celtman
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Mr. Pain on May 27, 2009, 04:23:32 PM
pain
–noun
1. physical suffering or distress, as due to injury, illness, etc.
2. a distressing sensation in a particular part of the body: a back pain. 
3. mental or emotional suffering or torment: I am sorry my news causes you such pain. 
4. pains, a. laborious or careful efforts; assiduous care: Great pains have been taken to repair the engine perfectly. 
             b. the suffering of childbirth.

5. Informal. an annoying or troublesome person or thing.

–verb (used with object) 6. to cause physical pain to; hurt.
7. to cause (someone) mental or emotional pain; distress: Your sarcasm pained me. 

–verb (used without object) 8. to have or give pain.

—Idioms
9. feel no pain, Informal. to be intoxicated: After all that free beer, we were feeling no pain. 
10. on, upon, or under pain of, liable to the penalty of: on pain of death. 
11. pain in the ass, Slang: Vulgar.   
12. pain in the neck, Informal.

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Now you know all there is to know about where Mr. Pain is from. Let the games begin!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on May 27, 2009, 04:35:49 PM
Quote from: Mr. Pain on May 27, 2009, 04:23:32 PM
pain
–noun
1. physical suffering or distress, as due to injury, illness, etc.
2. a distressing sensation in a particular part of the body: a back pain. 
3. mental or emotional suffering or torment: I am sorry my news causes you such pain. 
4. pains, a. laborious or careful efforts; assiduous care: Great pains have been taken to repair the engine perfectly. 
             b. the suffering of childbirth.

5. Informal. an annoying or troublesome person or thing.

–verb (used with object) 6. to cause physical pain to; hurt.
7. to cause (someone) mental or emotional pain; distress: Your sarcasm pained me. 

–verb (used without object) 8. to have or give pain.

—Idioms
9. feel no pain, Informal. to be intoxicated: After all that free beer, we were feeling no pain. 
10. on, upon, or under pain of, liable to the penalty of: on pain of death. 
11. pain in the ass, Slang: Vulgar.   
12. pain in the neck, Informal.

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Now you know all there is to know about where Mr. Pain is from. Let the games begin!


It must be an awful shithole you are from Mr Pain if you're too ashamed to name it. Perhaps you are afraid we will learn your identity, there can't that many Mr Pains around the county after all.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on May 27, 2009, 05:04:49 PM
Quote from: RednBlack on May 27, 2009, 04:33:50 PM
Quote from: boojangles on May 27, 2009, 01:06:46 PM

Nothing like a dose of Realism-but its hard to argue with the facts alright.From last years team,we have lost McCabe,Forde and Paul the Gunner wont be playing either.Thats 3 hard lads to replace,and I am seriously worried about our half back line.Id still take Bernard Morris at CHB though,wasnt the best footballer in the world but God he was some animal,we don't have anybody like him to enforce a bit of rough justice.

What do lads think of our Minors chances on Saturday? I havent seen them all year and would only know a handful of footballers on the team.Kevin Tierney is out with glandular fever I hear,he will be a big loss.

going back to Doc and hopes to be given all clear to play on Saturday

I'd be very surprised if he gets the ok - glandular fever really flattens ya, takes months to get over it properly and leaves you very fatigued for a long time after it too
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on May 27, 2009, 05:21:38 PM
Quote from: Celt_Man on May 27, 2009, 05:04:49 PM
Quote from: RednBlack on May 27, 2009, 04:33:50 PM
Quote from: boojangles on May 27, 2009, 01:06:46 PM

Nothing like a dose of Realism-but its hard to argue with the facts alright.From last years team,we have lost McCabe,Forde and Paul the Gunner wont be playing either.Thats 3 hard lads to replace,and I am seriously worried about our half back line.Id still take Bernard Morris at CHB though,wasnt the best footballer in the world but God he was some animal,we don't have anybody like him to enforce a bit of rough justice.

What do lads think of our Minors chances on Saturday? I havent seen them all year and would only know a handful of footballers on the team.Kevin Tierney is out with glandular fever I hear,he will be a big loss.

going back to Doc and hopes to be given all clear to play on Saturday

I'd be very surprised if he gets the ok - glandular fever really flattens ya, takes months to get over it properly and leaves you very fatigued for a long time after it too

Was talking to Mickey Graham the other day and he said he didn't think Tierney would play, that the team doctor said it was a no no. It might just be a media trick to keep pressure off the team, but I think if he does feature it will be from the bench.

This year's team's build-up has been relatively low key, but I really don't think much of them. Don't think they are as good as last year's team, but then again I doubt Tyrone will be as good as they were again. Down look decent enough, heard they hammered Fermanagh last time out.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Mr. Pain on May 27, 2009, 05:36:20 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on May 27, 2009, 04:35:49 PM
It must be an awful shithole you are from Mr Pain if you're too ashamed to name it. Perhaps you are afraid we will learn your identity, there can't that many Mr Pains around the county after all.

Myles, Mr. Pain does not laugh regularly but he came very close there. To think - A punk from Killeshandra has the audacity to call another place a shithole! Mr. Pain is not from Killeshandra, ipso facto, he is not from a shithole. The Pain family name was brought over to this country years ago by visiting monks. Anyway, enough about Mr. Pain, let's talk football.

Cavan will drive Fermanagh close according to the Pain Predictor, a little machine invented by yours truly. However, the outlook is not so good. Cavan to lose by two points. Mr. Pain sincerely hopes the Predictor is malfunctioning for all our sakes. Rant over!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on May 27, 2009, 06:16:43 PM
Quote from: Mr. Pain on May 27, 2009, 05:36:20 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on May 27, 2009, 04:35:49 PM
It must be an awful shithole you are from Mr Pain if you're too ashamed to name it. Perhaps you are afraid we will learn your identity, there can't that many Mr Pains around the county after all.

Myles, Mr. Pain does not laugh regularly but he came very close there. To think - A punk from Killeshandra has the audacity to call another place a shithole! Mr. Pain is not from Killeshandra, ipso facto, he is not from a shithole. The Pain family name was brought over to this country years ago by visiting monks. Anyway, enough about Mr. Pain, let's talk football.

Cavan will drive Fermanagh close according to the Pain Predictor, a little machine invented by yours truly. However, the outlook is not so good. Cavan to lose by two points. Mr. Pain sincerely hopes the Predictor is malfunctioning for all our sakes. Rant over!

Perhaps Myles is a punk. Perhaps Killeshandra is a shit hole but myles is not afraid to declare where his colours are nailed. Perhaps the Pains live in Maghera or some other "too embarrassing to admit I'm from there" place, come on Mr Pain I promise I will not laugh.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on May 27, 2009, 06:37:41 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on May 27, 2009, 06:16:43 PM
Quote from: Mr. Pain on May 27, 2009, 05:36:20 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on May 27, 2009, 04:35:49 PM
It must be an awful shithole you are from Mr Pain if you're too ashamed to name it. Perhaps you are afraid we will learn your identity, there can't that many Mr Pains around the county after all.

Myles, Mr. Pain does not laugh regularly but he came very close there. To think - A punk from Killeshandra has the audacity to call another place a shithole! Mr. Pain is not from Killeshandra, ipso facto, he is not from a shithole. The Pain family name was brought over to this country years ago by visiting monks. Anyway, enough about Mr. Pain, let's talk football.

Cavan will drive Fermanagh close according to the Pain Predictor, a little machine invented by yours truly. However, the outlook is not so good. Cavan to lose by two points. Mr. Pain sincerely hopes the Predictor is malfunctioning for all our sakes. Rant over!

Perhaps Myles is a punk. Perhaps Killeshandra is a shit hole but myles is not afraid to declare where his colours are nailed. Perhaps the Pains live in Maghera or some other "too embarrassing to admit I'm from there" place, come on Mr Pain I promise I will not laugh.
Why does Mr. Pain get such agro? His song a few months back was a masterpiece. But yes, let's talk football.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: whats my name on May 27, 2009, 10:26:16 PM
maybe Mr pain is from munchie land another place 2 be ashamed of!!!!!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on May 27, 2009, 10:28:45 PM
Mr Pain, Welcome Back  ;D  ;D
Are you from Laragh Mr Pain?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: big balla on May 27, 2009, 10:53:32 PM
i heard Paddy Gumley got the all clear this week from a doctor in Liverpool. Great news for him and the club
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on May 27, 2009, 11:04:23 PM
Now now lads less of the condescending attitude, although I did hear that Mr Pain is from Corlough.

Hard to know what to expect from our Minors.one thing I know about Mickey Graham and his selector and trainer is that they are very good at preparing a team for the big day.Saturdays game is big and hopefully they will have a few big days.

Great news for Paddy Gumley,wish him all the best. Can he get straight back to training now?

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on May 28, 2009, 11:58:28 AM
Lads, I'm pretty sure that there are a few other Cootehill men who drop in and look on whats being said on this website so I'm just giving this a plug for their sakes in case they don't know about the new website for the club www.cootehillceltic.com  Only came across it the other day myself - it seems decent enough plenty of photos on it and there is a discussion forum (kinda the same to this) on it too.


Great news about Paddy Gumley to be honest from what I heard didn't think he would get the all clear - delighted for him....  by the way "doctor in Liverpool" - I would safely say it wasn't a local anyway..... :D :D :D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on May 28, 2009, 09:02:55 PM
Any word on the juniors tonight?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on May 28, 2009, 09:14:05 PM
Quote from: RednBlack on May 28, 2009, 09:09:27 PM
Louth 3-15 Cavan 3-05

Poor show then  :-X
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: whats my name on May 28, 2009, 10:19:03 PM
poor show it was terrible stuff couldn't defend couldn't score kicked seriously poor wides we were 2-1 up before louth even registered a score we were wining by 2 at half time and louth completely out played us in every sector of the field in the second half.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: big balla on May 28, 2009, 10:42:51 PM
Quote from: boojangles on May 27, 2009, 11:04:23 PM
Now now lads less of the condescending attitude, although I did hear that Mr Pain is from Corlough.

Hard to know what to expect from our Minors.one thing I know about Mickey Graham and his selector and trainer is that they are very good at preparing a team for the big day.Saturdays game is big and hopefully they will have a few big days.

Great news for Paddy Gumley,wish him all the best. Can he get straight back to training now?



back at training tonight apparently,take him a while to get fit id say but im sure he'l make an appearance at some stage in the championship
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on May 28, 2009, 10:44:39 PM
What was the team WMN?

That's fantastic news about Paddy Gumley. Will be great to see him back.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on May 29, 2009, 11:25:03 AM
HOGANSTAND

Louth 3-15
Cavan 3-5

Louth outscored Cavan by 2-6 to 0-1 in the final quarter to progress to a semi-final meeting with Dublin in the Leinster JFC at Dundalk last night.

Participating in the Leinster JFC for only the second time, Cavan made a dream start when full forward David McGibney netted twice inside the first four minutes. When the Mountnugent clubman completed his hat-trick early in the second half, it looked like the visitors were going to take the spoils, but Louth rallied late on with a brace of goals from Colm Rafferty seeing them through to the last-four.

Givney must be high on confidance, he will probably get a bit of game time next week.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Mr. Pain on May 29, 2009, 02:29:05 PM
Ok, comPainions Mr. Pain gives you credit for your current quest to find out his origins albeit through self-praising hilarity. As Mr. Pain previously stated, let's talk football. 

He just came across this piece on that junior game with a video clip:

www.anglocelt.ie/sport/matchreports/articles/2009/05/29/40096-givney-hattrick-not-enough-for-cavan/


Just click on the above, minions!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on May 29, 2009, 02:51:32 PM
OK Mr pain - it is obviously giving you too much pain to admit what club you belong to and I wouldn't like to do you any further pschological damage by continuing to interogate. So I will stop now and talk football....

According to the report Givney was a sub yet scored 2 goals in the first two minutes. How did he manage to come on as a sub and score twice by the 2nd minute of the match? I assume the sub bit is a mistake?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: whats my name on May 29, 2009, 04:21:08 PM
he started at full forward he wasnt subbed at all.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on May 29, 2009, 06:07:17 PM
Quote from: Mr. Pain on May 29, 2009, 02:29:05 PM
Ok, comPainions Mr. Pain gives you credit for your current quest to find out his origins albeit through self-praising hilarity. As Mr. Pain previously stated, let's talk football. 

He just came across this piece on that junior game with a video clip:

www.anglocelt.ie/sport/matchreports/articles/2009/05/29/40096-givney-hattrick-not-enough-for-cavan/


Just click on the above, minions!
Legend Mr. Pain but what a shite clip.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: big balla on May 29, 2009, 11:25:53 PM
Quote from: Mr. Pain on May 29, 2009, 02:29:05 PM
Ok, comPainions Mr. Pain gives you credit for your current quest to find out his origins albeit through self-praising hilarity. As Mr. Pain previously stated, let's talk football. 

He just came across this piece on that junior game with a video clip:

www.anglocelt.ie/sport/matchreports/articles/2009/05/29/40096-givney-hattrick-not-enough-for-cavan/


Just click on the above, minions!
that clip was painfully bad, but i suppose i should expect that from you...
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on May 30, 2009, 09:39:59 AM
Quote from: Lawrence of Knockbride on May 29, 2009, 06:07:17 PM
Quote from: Mr. Pain on May 29, 2009, 02:29:05 PM
Ok, comPainions Mr. Pain gives you credit for your current quest to find out his origins albeit through self-praising hilarity. As Mr. Pain previously stated, let's talk football. 

He just came across this piece on that junior game with a video clip:

www.anglocelt.ie/sport/matchreports/articles/2009/05/29/40096-givney-hattrick-not-enough-for-cavan/


Just click on the above, minions!
Legend Mr. Pain but what a shite clip.

Lawrence is Mr Pain.

Was talking to Enda McCormack,who was playing wing-back with the Juniors.He said Louths greater fitness showed.Apparently they have been training with their Seniors all year. Cavan on the other hand,hardly knew each others names.If something can be done half-arsed,you can be sure Cavan will do it.

Anybody heading to Armagh?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on May 30, 2009, 10:14:25 AM
Quote from: big balla on May 29, 2009, 11:25:53 PM
Quote from: Mr. Pain on May 29, 2009, 02:29:05 PM
Ok, comPainions Mr. Pain gives you credit for your current quest to find out his origins albeit through self-praising hilarity. As Mr. Pain previously stated, let's talk football. 

He just came across this piece on that junior game with a video clip:

www.anglocelt.ie/sport/matchreports/articles/2009/05/29/40096-givney-hattrick-not-enough-for-cavan/


Just click on the above, minions!
that clip was painfully bad, but i suppose i should expect that from you...

I doubt if Mr Pain works for the Celt.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on May 30, 2009, 10:39:29 AM
I don't know who is who on this board anymore ;D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: sams the aim on May 30, 2009, 11:53:43 AM
Johnston gone for fermanagh game.Supposedly did hamstring last nite at training
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on May 30, 2009, 02:25:28 PM
Quote from: sams the aim on May 30, 2009, 11:53:43 AM
Johnston gone for fermanagh game.Supposedly did hamstring last nite at training

Just don't be rushing to conclusions,was talking to his Father this morning,it miten't be that bad.Time will tell.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on May 30, 2009, 04:39:47 PM
And so another year of Cavan's underage players snatching defeat from the Jaws of victory passes. It would break your bloody heart at this stage.

Was that a mirage a few pages back or has our Ramor representative done a Lazarus? Welcome back me aul mucker
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on May 30, 2009, 05:17:16 PM
This is getting beyond a joke now,  :(
watch Down go on and win the All Ireland now aswell!
The Cavan Minor team is cursed.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on May 30, 2009, 06:06:38 PM
Quote from: RednBlack on May 30, 2009, 05:26:59 PM
From what I was told being cursed had little to do with it. Took wrong options with time up. Carried ball into tackles and lost it when all they had to do was work and support each other and keep possession. By all accounts Down by far the better team.

Was told the same,all we had to do was give simple balls and keep possession,one Sub no 24 in particular was caught twice when he had men free,wouldnt give it.Same old story,although from reports I doubt Down will go much further.They were there for the taking but as usual Cavan has no killer instinct.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Babe Ruth 47 on June 01, 2009, 11:00:56 PM
When I seen that minor result in the paper my heart sank, when will we ever get a decent run. There wasn't even much hype this year either for a change
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on June 02, 2009, 12:30:46 AM
 Im sick of fellas saying typlical bloody Cavan (if i gave you a euro for everytime I have heard since Saturday, you would be loaded.) Can we please elaborate.

Year after year we appear to be producing groups of losers - minors and u21's fell at the first hurdle this year.
Last year's minors I thought were the best we have seen in a while, but this year - I don't know if the fifteen best players available were on the pitch on Saturday. And there was far too many young lads on the panel if you ask me. I thought a lot of our lads were very naive when it came to the crunch at the end. When we went one up, just like last year, everybody pulled back into our own half bar one. That just doesn't work at this level. It is telling teams to coming have a go and nine out of ten teams have someone capable of putting it over. No matter how could your defence, if everyone just sits back, the other team will eventually score.


To be serious at minor level you needs the bulk of your starting 15 to be actual minors. From what I have heard Mickey is an excellent manager (his CV backs that up too) and I would love to see him working with the minors for another year and then moving up to the u21's to work with the teams he already has in the best.

I no a few of you disagree, but i think the big problem for us is at u21 level. This years team, apparently trained and I quote "f**k all" and they were a big let down. The senior management are doing alright this year, but I really do feel the U21's need a seperate manager. A manager that feels the u21's is his number one prority.

Serious questions have to start being raised. Most years we have had players just as good, if not better than other counties, but we have won jack-shit. No-one seems to believe Cavan have a right to win anymore. How many times have teams been a point up and let it slip away?Snatching defeat from the Jaws of victory!

PS. I wanted to post this rant on Saturday but ended up in the pub for the bulk of three days :D Hope it is still of interest to ya's!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on June 02, 2009, 12:59:11 AM
Cavan team for next Saturday

James Reilly
Michael Brides
Dermot Sheridan
Michael Hannon
John McCutcheon
Eugene Keating
Padraic O'Reilly
Nicolas Walsh
Ciaran Galligan
Sean Brady
Ronan Flanagan
Cian Mackey
Martin Reilly
Ray Cullivan
Sean Johnston

No huge surprises. A few of my own feelings on team...

Sheridan was always going to be FB has been solid enough since coming in and hopefully he can continue that form. Eoin Smith supposedly had great game last week for the juniors at FB so I'd be confident that he can step in if needs be.
It's hard to have a whole pile of confidence in Hannon and Brides, both are excellent footballers on their day, but they've also got their fair share of roastings this year too. Lets hope the big game brings out the best in them.
I've already commented on my apprehensions about Keating at CHB but too be fair I haven't seen a whole pile of him in that position and he might prove me wrong but if things aren't going his way I'd move Flanagan or possibly Podge here depending how they are getting on.
McCutcheon has been Cavan's most solid player all year and he's an easy starter. We'll need his huge engine.
Podge seems to have found a return to form of late after a very lethargic start to the year. He has a bit of a point to prove and hopefully he does exactly that.
Ciaran Galligan has been another solid player for Cavan this year and his selection is essential if only for his workrate.
Really haven't seen a whole pile of Walsh this year but he can often produce his best on the big day,
Sean Brady wouldn't be in my team but I suppose he must be doing something right? Maybe he can finally produce the goods.
Flanagan is undoubtedly a very clever player and hopefully he can make things happen from the forty. Good man to pick up breaks also.
Mackey has been a new man this year and always shows his best on the big day. We'll need plenty of tracking back from him.
Martin Reilly's move to corner forward seems to have brought out the best in him. We'll be relying heavily on his and Jelly's freetaking if we're going to get a result.
Cullivan is a big gamble at FF but it's likely he will roam to leave Jelly a bit more room inside.
Fingers crossed the stories about Jelly's injury are a bit exaggerated, we'll need him at his best, but just as importantly he'll need to be on his best behaviour.

Pierson is the obvious omission and may have been over-looked due to a lack of match fitness. If he is able to play I'd move Cullivan out to Sean Brady's place and have him in FF.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on June 02, 2009, 11:28:52 AM
Quote from: Homer on June 02, 2009, 12:59:11 AM
Cavan team for next Saturday

James Reilly
Michael Brides
Dermot Sheridan
Michael Hannon
John McCutcheon
Eugene Keating
Padraic O'Reilly
Nicolas Walsh
Ciaran Galligan
Sean Brady
Ronan Flanagan
Cian Mackey
Martin Reilly
Ray Cullivan
Sean Johnston

No huge surprises. A few of my own feelings on team...

Sheridan was always going to be FB has been solid enough since coming in and hopefully he can continue that form. Eoin Smith supposedly had great game last week for the juniors at FB so I'd be confident that he can step in if needs be.
It's hard to have a whole pile of confidence in Hannon and Brides, both are excellent footballers on their day, but they've also got their fair share of roastings this year too. Lets hope the big game brings out the best in them.
I've already commented on my apprehensions about Keating at CHB but too be fair I haven't seen a whole pile of him in that position and he might prove me wrong but if things aren't going his way I'd move Flanagan or possibly Podge here depending how they are getting on.
McCutcheon has been Cavan's most solid player all year and he's an easy starter. We'll need his huge engine.
Podge seems to have found a return to form of late after a very lethargic start to the year. He has a bit of a point to prove and hopefully he does exactly that.
Ciaran Galligan has been another solid player for Cavan this year and his selection is essential if only for his workrate.
Really haven't seen a whole pile of Walsh this year but he can often produce his best on the big day,
Sean Brady wouldn't be in my team but I suppose he must be doing something right? Maybe he can finally produce the goods.
Flanagan is undoubtedly a very clever player and hopefully he can make things happen from the forty. Good man to pick up breaks also.
Mackey has been a new man this year and always shows his best on the big day. We'll need plenty of tracking back from him.
Martin Reilly's move to corner forward seems to have brought out the best in him. We'll be relying heavily on his and Jelly's freetaking if we're going to get a result.
Cullivan is a big gamble at FF but it's likely he will roam to leave Jelly a bit more room inside.
Fingers crossed the stories about Jelly's injury are a bit exaggerated, we'll need him at his best, but just as importantly he'll need to be on his best behaviour.

Pierson is the obvious omission and may have been over-looked due to a lack of match fitness. If he is able to play I'd move Cullivan out to Sean Brady's place and have him in FF.

Wouldnt be worried about Cullivan in that role at all, I was very impressed with him against Wexford and think he has the brains to play that role correctly. Brides does worry me and I cannot believe Brady is starting, I just dont rate him at all.

I am slightly worried about Keating but I am sure the logic is for him to try play a sweeper role there and you might see Flanagan tucking back into the CB line at times if we are in trouble or under presssure?!

And yes the stories about Jelly are exaggerated
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on June 02, 2009, 11:49:56 AM
I'm not surprised but I have a few concerns..

Shierdan - Best we have but I would not be surprised if Carr was forced to use Smith at some stage
Brides - not as good as Fannin in my opinion
Martin Reilly - playing well but I suspect he will be too light to deal with the packed Fermanagh defence. A fit pierson would play here for me as he is bigger, stronger and a good shot under pressure.
Keating - Have not seen him play here but you'd be concerned that this is his 1st championship game and he is in such a critical position,

Brady, cullivan, Walsh and Galligan give us quite a bit of physical presence around the middle which is a nice to see and I think they can do well in there. I am optomistic for some reason on this match although I'm not sure if its the heart ruling the head.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Drung on June 02, 2009, 12:44:34 PM
I disagree with some of what you say Slasher.

QuoteShierdan - Best we have but I would not be surprised if Carr was forced to use Smith at some stage
Brides - not as good as Fannin in my opinion
Martin Reilly - playing well but I suspect he will be too light to deal with the packed Fermanagh defence. A fit pierson would play here for me as he is bigger, stronger and a good shot under pressure.
Keating - Have not seen him play here but you'd be concerned that this is his 1st championship game and he is in such a critical position,

Sheridan looks suited to this Carson fella, plus Eoin Smith has been exposed in challenge matches and was very poor for Cavan juniors too by all accounts. I think ti's a case of "the grass is always greener" with him.
Brides/Fannin - not much it it here, I agree. I would personally have Fannion wing-back.
Martin Reilly's speed could be a huge asset. Pierson is actin the maggot by all accounts and is notoriously unpredictable. Plus, he and Jelly don't play well togetehr. The FF line were unreal against Wexford, so Carr couldn't chnage it.
Keating started midfield against Kildare last year in the championship. I saw him play well for his club at CB before but it's  a big ask. Need a huge game from him.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on June 02, 2009, 12:59:30 PM
Quote from: Homer on June 02, 2009, 12:59:11 AM
Cavan team for next Saturday

James Reilly
Michael Brides
Dermot Sheridan
Michael Hannon
John McCutcheon
Eugene Keating
Padraic O'Reilly
Nicolas Walsh
Ciaran Galligan
Sean Brady
Ronan Flanagan
Cian Mackey
Martin Reilly
Ray Cullivan
Sean Johnston

No huge surprises. A few of my own feelings on team...

Sheridan was always going to be FB has been solid enough since coming in and hopefully he can continue that form. Eoin Smith supposedly had great game last week for the juniors at FB so I'd be confident that he can step in if needs be.
It's hard to have a whole pile of confidence in Hannon and Brides, both are excellent footballers on their day, but they've also got their fair share of roastings this year too. Lets hope the big game brings out the best in them.
I've already commented on my apprehensions about Keating at CHB but too be fair I haven't seen a whole pile of him in that position and he might prove me wrong but if things aren't going his way I'd move Flanagan or possibly Podge here depending how they are getting on.
McCutcheon has been Cavan's most solid player all year and he's an easy starter. We'll need his huge engine.
Podge seems to have found a return to form of late after a very lethargic start to the year. He has a bit of a point to prove and hopefully he does exactly that.
Ciaran Galligan has been another solid player for Cavan this year and his selection is essential if only for his workrate.
Really haven't seen a whole pile of Walsh this year but he can often produce his best on the big day,
Sean Brady wouldn't be in my team but I suppose he must be doing something right? Maybe he can finally produce the goods.
Flanagan is undoubtedly a very clever player and hopefully he can make things happen from the forty. Good man to pick up breaks also.
Mackey has been a new man this year and always shows his best on the big day. We'll need plenty of tracking back from him.
Martin Reilly's move to corner forward seems to have brought out the best in him. We'll be relying heavily on his and Jelly's freetaking if we're going to get a result.
Cullivan is a big gamble at FF but it's likely he will roam to leave Jelly a bit more room inside.
Fingers crossed the stories about Jelly's injury are a bit exaggerated, we'll need him at his best, but just as importantly he'll need to be on his best behaviour.

Pierson is the obvious omission and may have been over-looked due to a lack of match fitness. If he is able to play I'd move Cullivan out to Sean Brady's place and have him in FF.

By the way, is it confirmed that this is the team or just an educated guess??
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on June 02, 2009, 01:22:07 PM
Was talking to one of the County lads at weekend and thats the team that they had but they werent sure if Johnston would make it.   Jason Reilly is supposed to be out also but he wouldnt have started anyway.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on June 02, 2009, 05:01:32 PM
Quote from: RednBlack on June 02, 2009, 04:39:48 PM
RTE not showing Saturdays game live. Deferred coverage after the soccer. Think around 9pm

I saw that. A bit of a joke. They announced that they were showing it at the start of the year (even though they knew the soccer was on). Then they got the time changed and now they don't show it anyway. Are BBC still going to show it i wonder. They were going to show it when it was at 7pm.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on June 02, 2009, 05:18:00 PM
Video report from minor game ------------>  http://ulster.gaa.ie/landofthegiants/2009/06/02/minor-report-down-v-cavan/
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on June 02, 2009, 05:41:22 PM
Quote from: RednBlack on June 02, 2009, 05:36:50 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on June 02, 2009, 05:01:32 PM
Quote from: RednBlack on June 02, 2009, 04:39:48 PM
RTE not showing Saturdays game live. Deferred coverage after the soccer. Think around 9pm

I saw that. A bit of a joke. They announced that they were showing it at the start of the year (even though they knew the soccer was on). Then they got the time changed and now they don't show it anyway. Are BBC still going to show it i wonder. They were going to show it when it was at 7pm.
word is that it will still be shown at 7. sure we can go to the game and then go home and enjoy watching Galligan running 50 yards to score the winning point!!! Jesus I hope......... :o

Four more sleeps  ;D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Drung on June 03, 2009, 03:12:59 PM
QuoteVideo report from minor game ------------>  http://ulster.gaa.ie/landofthegiants/2009/06/02/minor-report-down-v-cavan/

Super video, thanks. Report here as well http://www.anglocelt.ie/sport/matchreports/articles/2009/06/01/40097-same-old-story-for-minors/

Hard to believe they are gone again. Anyone here at it??
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on June 03, 2009, 10:38:39 PM
According to my sky box BBC 2 is showing the game live. RTE is showing full deferred coverage at 9. I'll be at it anyway so doesn't matter to me.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on June 04, 2009, 02:20:28 AM
Quote from: Drung on June 03, 2009, 03:12:59 PM
QuoteVideo report from minor game ------------>  http://ulster.gaa.ie/landofthegiants/2009/06/02/minor-report-down-v-cavan/

Super video, thanks. Report here as well http://www.anglocelt.ie/sport/matchreports/articles/2009/06/01/40097-same-old-story-for-minors/

Hard to believe they are gone again. Anyone here at it??

Yeah I was at it! Felt depressed after the game. Despite playing pretty bad, it was there to be one but once again we let it slip trough the fingers
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on June 04, 2009, 10:16:40 PM
Less than 2 days til throw-in lads. What are the predictions?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on June 04, 2009, 11:44:32 PM
Cavan 0-16 Fermanagh 0-12
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tierworker blue on June 05, 2009, 01:22:34 AM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on June 04, 2009, 11:44:32 PM
Cavan 0-16 Fermanagh 0-12

Fingers crossed!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Babe Ruth 47 on June 05, 2009, 01:40:30 AM
0-16 to 2-8 in favour of Cavan.   

Getting excited about this game. Relatively confident about our chances. Hopefully Fermanagh will return to form in front of the posts. My only big issue is Podge. I think he is a top class footballer but against Fermanagh he may be badly exposed for pace. I really hope he proves me wrong though.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on June 05, 2009, 08:02:45 AM
Cavan 1-10
Fermanagh 1-9
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on June 05, 2009, 08:41:05 AM
Serious optimism amongst you lads so far-you'd know it was Friday. ;D
Babe Ruth, I'd have to say that I have concerns all around the field and not just Podge. I really find it too hard to call. It's a question of the Cavan players desire the win for one as Fermanagh won't be lacking in that department. Tactically, we could have any sort of formation with everyone in the forwards except Johnston able to come out around the middle. We could see Johnston marked by 5 or 6 players with our lads all about the middle looking for breaks. If it turns into such a slog I think we'll be beaten. However, we have a couple of aces. Mackey, needs plenty of ball and needs to show the form he did against Down. He missed quite a few games with the mumps and it'll be interesting to see if he can get back to that level. I'd also leave Cullivan inside rather than bring him out. Martin Reilly's a nice footballer but I wouldn't have him as a target man, especially against a blanket defence. Cullivan is the only real option of a direct high ball we have.
Defensively, all that needs to be said about the FB line has already been said. Carson looks a good player but not the sort that will destroy you. I think Sheridan might do ok on him. I'm bemused by the Keating/Sean Brady/Flanagan line-out. I'm a big fan of Rory Dunne's at wing-back and think he should have got the nod ahead of Brady who has shown nothing. I'd have had Dunne WB, Flangan CB and Keating WF.
Anyway after all that it's still impossible to call but I'll give a reluctant 1-9 to 0-10 call to Fermanagh in a frustrating but educational evening for the Breffni :'(
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Babe Ruth 47 on June 05, 2009, 08:58:39 AM
Regretably your probably right Lawrence, however we have a relatively good bench to come on. A few men who given half a chance can turn games. Pierson< Larry etc. Would much prefer the half back line as you stated but I'm optimistic TOmmy Carr knows what he's at. This could turn into a real slogging match between the two 45s where hopefully we have a good quota of big strong individuals to come out on top.  Fermanagh all of a suden haven't turned into the free scoring team that we seen against Down. Down were poor and their backs let Fermanagh have serious space. Hopefully if we are up for this game our backs are like bostick Fermanagh will start panicking, taking the wrong option, shooting from ludacris angles etc ala last years Ulster Championship.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Babe Ruth 47 on June 05, 2009, 09:50:09 AM
Hoganstand.com -



Fermanagh manager Malachy O'Rourke has kept faith with the side that defeated Down for tomorrow's Ulster SFC quarter-final against Cavan at Kingspan/Breffni Park.

It means there is no starting place for Mark Murphy, who recently returned from Australia, or for former All-Star full back Barry Owens, who is on his way back to full fitness following cruciate ligament surgery. However, there is every chance both will see action from the bench.

Ryan Carson, who made a dream debut against Down in the preliminary round, will once again start on the edge of the square, while Ryan McCluskey has shaken off injury to start at right half back.

Fermanagh (SF v Cavan): C Breen; N Bogue, S Lyons, H Brady; R McCluskey, S McDermott, T McElroy; M McGrath, J Sherry; R Keenan, C McElroy, M Little; D Keenan, R Carson, E Maguire.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on June 05, 2009, 10:38:54 AM
I think we have a chance.

Have major concerns in the FB line. Every time a long ball goes in there, I have a heart attack.

Keating is a massive gamble, but obviouslly the management think its going to work.

I think Flanagan will be sweeping back alot to help out, with Cullivan giving options on the square when we have pssession but drifting out when we dont and leaving Martin and Jelly in space. Worked very well against Wexford, though the Fermanagh defence will be much more formidable.

Keating, Brides and Brady have massive points to prove...I know they would not be in a lot of people's starting line-ups.

We need this win, if we lose, minors u21's and seniors will all have lost at teh first round
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: the salmon of knowledge on June 05, 2009, 11:02:05 AM
how much IC has sean brady played in the lead up to this game?

2-11   Cavan
1-12   Fermanagh

please god
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on June 05, 2009, 11:06:20 AM
Cavan 0-12
Fermanagh 1-8

One for the purists ;D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on June 05, 2009, 12:02:57 PM
Cavan 2-07
Fermanagh 0-13

The Ulster Championship is due a draw-I think it could be Saturday evening.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on June 05, 2009, 01:19:53 PM
Quote from: boojangles on June 05, 2009, 12:02:57 PM
Cavan 2-07
Fermanagh 0-13

The Ulster Championship is due a draw-I think it could be Saturday evening.
Even after extra-time?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on June 05, 2009, 03:57:13 PM
Quote from: Lawrence of Knockbride on June 05, 2009, 01:19:53 PM
Quote from: boojangles on June 05, 2009, 12:02:57 PM
Cavan 2-07
Fermanagh 0-13

The Ulster Championship is due a draw-I think it could be Saturday evening.
Even after extra-time?

f**k,forgot about that.Il say a draw after 70 minutes,after that Fermanagh may sneak it.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BigMac on June 06, 2009, 12:14:49 PM
Lads, can anyone tell me where i can get the game live on the internet? Im away due to the "current economic climate", but would love to see the game. Any help on the matter would be greatly appreciated.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on June 06, 2009, 12:46:05 PM
Quote from: BigMac on June 06, 2009, 12:14:49 PM
Lads, can anyone tell me where i can get the game live on the internet? Im away due to the "current economic climate", but would love to see the game. Any help on the matter would be greatly appreciated.
Yeah I see RTE's great on-line service is for Ireland only-what a marketing tool?
Try this link-you'll need to down load Mediaplayer too.
http://www.myp2p.eu/broadcast.php?matchid=41269&part=sports
http://www.myp2p.eu/softwareitem.php?softwareid=10&part=software

Usually best to get on-line early but I doubt there'll be too many using the service for this game.
When you have mediaplayer downloaded, clicking on any of the play links should automatically open the player for you. If one fails, just try another.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Babe Ruth 47 on June 06, 2009, 08:16:03 PM
Brilliant, the lads done well. Fermanagh were shown up to be a poor team. As hoped they returned to form in front of the sticks. Was very impressed by Johnston, Martin Reilly, Pauric Reilly, Nicholas Walsh, Mackey and Cullivan. Showed a lot of heart when we came under presure near the end. Cullivan proved to be quite a usefull outlet inside.  Jonhston kicked some lovely scores especially the one 10 mins from the end of the game. Was worried half way through the first half when he pulled up holding his hamstring. Only one fault with him was that free he took short when he should have left it for Reilly. A wee bit selfish. Martin Reilly also had a good day. A beautiful technique taking the frees from the ground. I'm glad I have to eat my words about Podge, thought he was excellent. Delighted..........roll on Donegal (or Antrim)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: handballer09 on June 06, 2009, 08:17:43 PM
Well done Cavan. Super win, should give the whole county a boost.

Here's a link to a brief report and video of Tommy Carr's reaction

http://www.anglocelt.ie/sport/matchreports/articles/2009/06/06/40388-cavan-tear-up-the-script/
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on June 06, 2009, 08:22:14 PM
Cavan 0 13
Fermanagh 1 08

We held out at the end but we didn't seem to use the wind in the second half but f&&k it we won!

Although I was a bit perturbed when I clicked on the Local GAA discussion, and saw Carr must go.  Looked at the originator and it wasn't Ballyhaise Man and sighed gratefully when I read it further and saw it was Ross Carr.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4sam on June 07, 2009, 10:48:01 AM
Mackey going for scan on cruciate today, its not torn but they want to see how bad it is. Big loss for us next weekend against Ramor but would be a massive loss for Cavan the next day out if his injury is serious.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on June 07, 2009, 02:57:47 PM
Terrific result,Good performance with lots of mistakes,we can improve an awful lot.
Its great to be winning these tight games,like yesterday and Down/Limerick in the league.
Other years we have been playing teams off the park and getting caught in the last 10  minutes.
Mackey was immense as was Jelly
Martin Reily and Ray were good.
Nicko Walsh battled well at midfield with Marty McGrath
John McCutcheon was very good,
Eugene Keating kicked two balls straight over the sideline and he was in there for his passing ability,hes worth another go at centre back against Donegal though,To be fair he coped well for his first game.
Podge has came on a sight since his dip in form at the start of the year
Rony Flanagan went through an immense amount of work.
Full back line was shaky at the start,But done rightly thereafter.

Sean Brady kicked two scores,but didnt contribute an awful lot more for me,he will struggle to hold his place for the game against Antrim/Donegal.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on June 07, 2009, 11:56:31 PM
Quote from: cavanmaniac on June 05, 2009, 11:06:20 AM
Cavan 0-12
Fermanagh 1-8

One for the purists ;D

Well, I was nearly right...too wrecked to post, but suffice to say I am delighted but not surprised.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4sam on June 08, 2009, 08:08:30 AM
Mackey injury not as bad as first feared, will report more when i hear it.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Maximus Marillius on June 08, 2009, 10:17:14 AM
BH man...you tom fool.....where is your Tommy Carr must go thread now :D :D :D :D :D TOM FOOL
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Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on June 08, 2009, 10:55:15 AM
Quote from: Maximus Marillius on June 08, 2009, 10:17:14 AM
BH man...you tom fool.....where is your Tommy Carr must go thread now :D :D :D :D :D TOM FOOL
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We missed you max. Amazing we won with such useless players and no underage etc etc etc. I suppose you had €100 euro on cavan to win by a point too.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Maximus Marillius on June 08, 2009, 11:26:22 AM
Congrats on the won...and a deserved win it was. You were the better team, and for a bit more self belief you could have won easier.

Its not amazing you won a home tie against another county with no underage success. I didn't bet on this game because of your home draw. My money at the weekend went on a ballinderry bellaghy double.



Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Hollow Man on June 08, 2009, 11:34:39 AM
Yeah, underage success is everything.
That's why Laois footballers and Galway hurlers are All Ireland favourites. Oh wait...
You clown!

I'll say two things in your favour Max. You are a wind up merchant par excellence and you nailed BH Man there. Calling for the head of a manager after two matches has to be the stupidest thing anyone has ever said on this board.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on June 08, 2009, 11:42:42 AM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on June 08, 2009, 10:55:15 AM
We missed you max. Amazing we won with such useless players and no underage etc etc etc. I suppose you had €100 euro on cavan to win by a point too.

The GAAboard tourist is back I see. Remember when I posted after Tipperary beat us months ago that 'freak' results can occur in the league because of varying fitness levels and 'smaller' counties training harder for it than others, and Max's incisive analysis was:

:D :D :D...cant see the wood for the trees....thats as funny as I have seen in a while...not near wise. That warped sense of non reality explains it all  :D

What's your dazzling insight on Tipp now, Max, since their defeat in championship to a Limerick team that had a comparable league record to Cavan's in the same division? Hmmm?

And also on Cavan, given that we beat last year's Ulster finalists/team who've been in All-Ireland series many times in recent years, and who count exceptionally well-run, utopian underage powerhouse counties such as Derry among their scalps of last year? Not to mention the big scalps of other years? And Cavan beat them without a minor or U21 success to speak of?

I can't wait for your laser sharp justifications drenched in hindsight and half truths....  
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on June 08, 2009, 11:46:07 AM
Quote from: Hollow Man on June 08, 2009, 11:34:39 AM
Calling for the head of a manager after two matches has to be the stupidest thing anyone has ever said on this board.

Look lads, who hasn't said something daft at some stage? Some on this board do it daily. Leave off the guy, he's a good poster and I enjoy what he writes, it was just a rush of blood and it's childish to keep bringing it up.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Maximus Marillius on June 08, 2009, 11:51:35 AM
Quote from: cavanmaniac on June 08, 2009, 11:42:42 AM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on June 08, 2009, 10:55:15 AM
We missed you max. Amazing we won with such useless players and no underage etc etc etc. I suppose you had €100 euro on cavan to win by a point too.

The GAAboard tourist is back I see. Remember when I posted after Tipperary beat us months ago that 'freak' results can occur in the league because of varying fitness levels and 'smaller' counties training harder for it than others, and Max's incisive analysis was:

:D :D :D...cant see the wood for the trees....thats as funny as I have seen in a while...not near wise. That warped sense of non reality explains it all  :D

What's your dazzling insight on Tipp now, Max, since their defeat in championship to a Limerick team that had a comparable league record to Cavan's in the same division? Hmmm?

And also on Cavan, given that we beat last year's Ulster finalists/team who've been in All-Ireland series many times in recent years, and who count exceptionally well-run, utopian underage powerhouse counties such as Derry among their scalps of last year? Not to mention the big scalps of other years? And Cavan beat them without a minor or U21 success to speak of?

I can't wait for your laser sharp justifications drenched in hindsight and half truths....  

well fermanagh haven't won a thing at all at any level also......so like for like. As i said congrats on your win...a well deserved win....but you were at home against a team who is now a divisin 3 team like yourselves and here is the rub....one swallow doesn't make a summer.

An observation on my part....Cavan had a bit of spirit about them on Sat, more spirit than I have seen in a while. Mc Cabe has now departed...any relationship between the two?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on June 08, 2009, 12:06:36 PM
Quote from: Maximus Marillius on June 08, 2009, 11:51:35 AM
Quote from: cavanmaniac on June 08, 2009, 11:42:42 AM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on June 08, 2009, 10:55:15 AM
We missed you max. Amazing we won with such useless players and no underage etc etc etc. I suppose you had €100 euro on cavan to win by a point too.

The GAAboard tourist is back I see. Remember when I posted after Tipperary beat us months ago that 'freak' results can occur in the league because of varying fitness levels and 'smaller' counties training harder for it than others, and Max's incisive analysis was:

:D :D :D...cant see the wood for the trees....thats as funny as I have seen in a while...not near wise. That warped sense of non reality explains it all  :D

What's your dazzling insight on Tipp now, Max, since their defeat in championship to a Limerick team that had a comparable league record to Cavan's in the same division? Hmmm?

And also on Cavan, given that we beat last year's Ulster finalists/team who've been in All-Ireland series many times in recent years, and who count exceptionally well-run, utopian underage powerhouse counties such as Derry among their scalps of last year? Not to mention the big scalps of other years? And Cavan beat them without a minor or U21 success to speak of?

I can't wait for your laser sharp justifications drenched in hindsight and half truths....  

well fermanagh haven't won a thing at all at any level also......so like for like. As i said congrats on your win...a well deserved win....but you were at home against a team who is now a divisin 3 team like yourselves and here is the rub....one swallow doesn't make a summer.

That was the detailed reply I was expecting Max, but nevertheless, while we're all very aware of the one swallow doesn't make a summer thing, you'd do well to apply the same thinking yourself too; i.e. no underage success doesn't mean a county is derisory or shite, so it's about time you let that old nugget die a death I think...

I know you're on the windup most of the time too but it's also about time you twigged that the majority of posters in this thread have forgotten more about Cavan football than you'll ever know, so a bit of respeck when you come visiting the neighbours wouldn't go amiss either.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Hollow Man on June 08, 2009, 12:11:54 PM
Maniac, don't take the bait!!!!!!!

Max, how will Derry fare against Tyrone?
Something wrong with the system whereby Limerick are guaranteed a spot in the last 12 by beating a Division Four team while Derry have to beat two Division One teams to reach that same stage.
Much as it pains me, I'm starting to think we should scrap the provincial system, OR go back to a straight knock-out.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Maximus Marillius on June 08, 2009, 12:18:21 PM
The Derry Tyrone game...usually is a very close dour game when we play. We are sort a serious amount of good players, Doherty, Muldoon, Mc Cusker, Patsy Bradley...al big, physically strong men. We'll not be to far away...perhaps a decesion here or there byn the ref ;)


Quote from: Hollow Man on June 08, 2009, 12:11:54 PM

Something wrong with the system whereby Limerick are guaranteed a spot in the last 12 by beating a Division Four team while Derry have to beat two Division One teams to reach that same stage.
Much as it pains me, I'm starting to think we should scrap the provincial system, OR go back to a straight knock-out.

i agree the provincial c'ship very unfair. I am in favour of adpoting a league basis that has then translates in the championship quater finals for Sam and quater finals for a second tier Sam
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on June 08, 2009, 12:37:55 PM
Quote from: Maximus Marillius on June 08, 2009, 10:17:14 AM
BH man...you tom fool.....where is your Tommy Carr must go thread now :D :D :D :D :D TOM FOOL
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i feel horrible. I  am being made look like a fool due to a Cavan win  ;D  ;D
Im really hurting now Maxxie  :-*
PS Remind what what happened your lot against Fermanagh in Omagh last year?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on June 08, 2009, 12:39:41 PM
Quote from: Hollow Man on June 08, 2009, 11:34:39 AM
Yeah, underage success is everything.
That's why Laois footballers and Galway hurlers are All Ireland favourites. Oh wait...
You clown!

I'll say two things in your favour Max. You are a wind up merchant par excellence and you nailed BH Man there. Calling for the head of a manager after two matches has to be the stupidest thing anyone has ever said on this board.

You say the nicest things...  :-*
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on June 08, 2009, 12:50:34 PM
Just like Clockwork-Max is back.But to be fair,at least he has made an appearance when Cavan have won.Max made the point about the relation between the fine team spirit we showed on Saturday and the fact that Dermot McCabe wasnt playing.As good a servant we all know Dermot was,I would be inclined to agree here.He was never a great man at encouraging on the field,and it seemed on Saturday that the team played without any pressure,and everybody was willing to take on their own responsibilities,without Big Dermot trying to do it for them.
It is hard not to look forward to the next game when you see that Paul the Gunner,Larry,Fannin,Cahill,Rory Dunne and Pierson among others may all be pushing for a place.

While I feel that Tyrone may conquer all in September,I feel that Derry may do the job in Ulster.Derry will be missing a lot but under Cassidy they seem to have added more steel and a better attitude.I backed them before the Monaghan game at 4-1 so heres hoping.God I dunno what Il do if its a Cavan Derry Ulster Final, ::) ::)
A Cavan man is not easy parted with 20 notes. :P :P
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on June 08, 2009, 04:30:07 PM
Anyone know if  Lyng be back in contention for the next day?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on June 08, 2009, 05:03:30 PM
Isn't amazing how good a championship win makes us at feel! Donegal will be a much sterner test though.

Anyway, lets forget about the county set-up and let the boy's get on with there preparations. We don't want to put too much pressure on them.

See the clun championship is getting under way this weekend, couple of very interesting games too. None more so than Gaels -v- Mullahoran. Who thinks who is going to win each championship?

Senior: Cavan Gaels Dark Horses: Gowna with McKeever and McCabe rested?! Think Kingscourt could cause a few upsets
Intermediate: Lavey Dark Horses: Killeshandra are flying in Division Two
Junior: Shannon Gaels Dark Horses: Gaels second team
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on June 08, 2009, 06:00:11 PM
Senior: Its hard to look by the Gaels but I know things are going far from well up in Terry Coyle.Also hear that one of their main men will be heading off in the next month or 2,while there are 4 lads gone to Donegal in Boston today.(McClarey,Daniel Graham and Robert Maloney)
Gowna should definitely be a force again while Mullahoran cannot be ruled out.Belturbet and Kingscourt will be buzzing,and its confidence they need but cant see them beating the Heavys when it comes to the crunch. Hesitantly Il go for Gowna.

Intermediate: As usual,any number of teams in contention.Our own Group will knock out 2 of the fancied teams,whoever that may be.I think Knockbride will be very hard bet this year.Larry and John Tierney are 2 massive additions for any Intermediate team.The same could be said for Drumgoon,with Hannon and Fannin to call upon.Lavey will also be very hard bet,considering they have been playing in Division 1 this year.Killeshandra are also flying,but just might lack experience when it comes down to it.While of course you can never rule out last years beaten finalists Ballyhaise out.
A very open Championship that should produce some very tight games,Im gonna go for Knockbride to reclaim the Gilroy Cup.

Junior-Im afraid I just dont know enough about it,having seen no games.I would guess that Swad will be hard beat again but could see a Senior club second team run it tight.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: the salmon of knowledge on June 08, 2009, 06:52:14 PM
Well, i questioned what Cavan could do to counter the higher workrate of Fermanagh... well work harder seems to be the answer! I am one of the ones who will quite happily hold my hand up and say i was wrong, heart and guts won the day for Cavan with jelly, mackey and IMO keating especially doing very well, not to mention some great deadball kicking from M reilly (first time Cavan kicked a 45 in the last 6 yrs in championship).
Walsh nullified Mcgrath, and Cullivan caused all sorts of problems in the first half.
Keatings diagional ball to jelly against the wind really drove cavan forward in the 1st half, i would have liked to see that idea empolyed more in the second half, high ball to Cullivan was very easily dealt with.
Great stuff, and there will be a huge amount of confidence gained.
Hard to fault them but Fermanagh seemed to be at their best when Cavan didnt mark up at quick frees.
Well done lads
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: sams the aim on June 08, 2009, 06:59:36 PM
Babe Ruth it seems u find it hard to give a certain mr johnston uch credit.how can u say it was selfish i believe he passed that one to flanaga.as far as i was concerned and although m reilly played well he was d only Cavan player who played a bit selfishly.delighted for the lads was in the stand at the end and seen seanie come out of the dressing room and hand his jersey to a young lad.his face lit up was a lovely touch. Very good display from all put in some serious work. Galligan and walsh worked so hard fair play to both. mackey outstanding and brides and all the back line tackled until they dropped. bit disappointed with ronan hope d captaincy is not to much on his shoulders.absolutely brilliant footballer thou and d semi final is now made for him noone will be looking at him before it. Lyng will not get back in d team as far i can see has not really shown us enough in d last few years to give him a start.dnt no about gunner its hard to change anything or anyone.Tom carr also gets a thumbs up had d lads very motivated wel done to d management. Wud anyone like to give ratings on the players? again well done to all.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on June 08, 2009, 09:14:29 PM
Quote from: sams the aim on June 08, 2009, 06:59:36 PM
Babe Ruth it seems u find it hard to give a certain mr johnston uch credit.how can u say it was selfish i believe he passed that one to flanaga.as far as i was concerned and although m reilly played well he was d only Cavan player who played a bit selfishly.delighted for the lads was in the stand at the end and seen seanie come out of the dressing room and hand his jersey to a young lad.his face lit up was a lovely touch. Very good display from all put in some serious work. Galligan and walsh worked so hard fair play to both. mackey outstanding and brides and all the back line tackled until they dropped. bit disappointed with ronan hope d captaincy is not to much on his shoulders.absolutely brilliant footballer thou and d semi final is now made for him noone will be looking at him before it. Lyng will not get back in d team as far i can see has not really shown us enough in d last few years to give him a start.dnt no about gunner its hard to change anything or anyone.Tom carr also gets a thumbs up had d lads very motivated wel done to d management. Wud anyone like to give ratings on the players? again well done to all.

Nah there are no need for ratings - the performance should be remembered for a Cavan team looking hungry and willing to roll up their sleeves and work hard! Have not been able to say that too often in recent years
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on June 09, 2009, 03:24:32 PM
Senior
Gaels

Intermediate
Lavey

Junior
Mountnugent
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: the salmon of knowledge on June 09, 2009, 10:40:15 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on June 09, 2009, 03:24:32 PM
Senior
Gaels

Intermediate
Lavey

Junior
Mountnugent

nice one BHM  i am actually sticking 50 on that triple, have not done it yet cause i reckon the leaguers are in with a shout in IFC...
guidence anyone???
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on June 09, 2009, 10:54:09 PM
Quote from: the salmon of knowledge on June 09, 2009, 10:40:15 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on June 09, 2009, 03:24:32 PM
Senior
Gaels

Intermediate
Lavey

Junior
Mountnugent

nice one BHM  i am actually sticking 50 on that triple, have not done it yet cause i reckon the leaguers are in with a shout in IFC...
guidence anyone???
50 quid? Well you are the Salmon of Knowledge. Have a fancy for Gowna, a last hurrah for McCabe perhaps. I'll go for the Graham touch to win it for Ballyhaise in the Intermediate and the junior I can't say I know a lot about. Looking forward to four nights in Breffni. ;D ;D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on June 09, 2009, 11:36:37 PM
Quote from: the salmon of knowledge on June 09, 2009, 10:40:15 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on June 09, 2009, 03:24:32 PM
Senior
Gaels

Intermediate
Lavey

Junior
Mountnugent

nice one BHM  i am actually sticking 50 on that triple, have not done it yet cause i reckon the leaguers are in with a shout in IFC...
guidence anyone???

Killeshandra might well cause a few surprises and may even put ourselves out of the Championship but in the grand scheme of things I honestly cant see them winning it.I know we were young when we won it,but Killeshandra are relying on 2 Under-21s around the middle of the field,and their forward line is young too.I think they may hav peaked too early and reading Ciaran O Reilly(their manager) in the Echo?? last week,it reinforced my view.
A very fit,well organised team with a great work rate and a bit of belief can win the Intermediate.It doesnt take a team with lots of outstanding footballers,just a team that will out work its opponents.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tierworker blue on June 10, 2009, 12:50:53 AM
Good win on Saturday...nice to see honest effort and pride in the jersey. I don't know how many times we've seen Cavan teams bottle winnable games, so it was refreshing to go the whole way, so to speak. Lets hope we can build from here...the only way is up!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on June 10, 2009, 04:10:23 PM
BallyhaiseMans championship preview and predictions

Senior Championship

Killygarry-Doing well again this year in the league,had a terrific championship last year with the exception of one half of football.
Players like Martin Reily,Donal Thomas,Pauric Chaill,Thomas Leonard will carry them far,i dont know if they have the overall quality to beat the Gaels,but i dont think its a stretch to say they are one of the top teams in the county now.

Prediction-Semi Finalists

Denn-Disasterous league campaign following a terrific run to the Championship final this year,Should be doing better with players like Martin Cahill,David Kiernan,Thomas Corr and co,But unless they improve greatly,I can see them playing intermediate championship in 2010.

Prediction-Relegation to intermediate

Mullahoran-up and down league campaign so far,But with Eddie Reily,Ciaran Sheils,Dermot Sheridan and co at the helm,They will be tough to beat.
I dont think they have the scoring forwards to beat the Gaels,but they will more than likely go far.

Prediction- Semi Finalists

Cavan Gaels-The standard bearers of Cavan football over the last number of years,They are only going to get stronger,with the Likes of Robert Maloney Derham,Kevin Meehan,Niall Murray,Niall Smith,Conor McClarey all breaking through to the first team,Add to that the wealth of experience and class in Walsh,Forde,Chesty,Darren Rabbitte,Enda King,Michael Lyng and Jelly.
Really unless they flop on the day,Theres no-one good enough to beat them.

Prediction- Winners

Redhills-Started brightly in the league,but have lost a few games recently,Paddy Gumley returning is a boost to the club,but he wont play any part unless Redhills progressed far into the competition.
There is a huge step up in class between Intermediate and Senior,
I think Redhills will struggle to stay up in the senior championship and i think they will be involved in the relegation playoff fixtures,but they will probably stay up.

Prediction-Relegation Play offs(wont progress from group stages)

Drumbride-Amalgamation of Drumgoon and Knockbride, some serious players in Michael McDonald,Keith Fannin,Michael Hannon,John Tierney,Larry Reily and Peter.
They are not alone there though  as there are Quality players throughout the panel
with Adrian Crossan,Ronan Keaskin,Michael Clarke etc
Talent wise they are as good as nearly any team in the senior championship except the Gaels.
But amalgamations are notoriously difficult to predict. With Knockbride and Drumgoon two favourites for the Intermediate,you would just woner how interested they will be in this team.

Prediction-cant see them progressing far to be honest.

Belturbet-Injection of newcomers over the past 18 months has rejuvinated what looked to be an aging team.
They have some quality young players in Conor Vaughan,Brendan Bud Fitzpatrick,Johnny Klusche and co.
Along with Jason Reily,Rory Donohoe and the returning Johnny Higgins,They will be a team to watch in the next few years.
Could realistically reach a semi final.

Prediction- Quarter Final

Lacken-They have played some terrific football in the league over the past 2 years but seem to have gone stale when championship comes,Perhaps too much training early in the year.
Have the potential in Joe/Trevor Crowe,Raymond Galligan,Finbar Reily and some good young players like Philip Moynagh to go far.
But just dont see them have a serious impact in the championship this year.

Prediction-will comfortably stay up,but will struggle to get out of the group stages.

Kingscourt-I think Kingscourt will really suprise people this year,i know they have been playing at a lower standard(Div 2)
but ive seen a couple of their games,and they are a completely rejuvinated team,fresh from all the drinking/controversery/ and clowing around that has dogged them over the past 2/3 years.
They have Quality players like Sean Og Gargan,Alan Clarke,Darragh Gunne,Joe McMahon,Daire McMahon,Philip Smith, amongst others etc

Prediction- i believe Kingscourt will reach either a semi final or final depending on the draw,Dont think they have what it takes yet to beat the Gaels,but i think they have the beating of any other team in the senior championship.


Castlerahan-have disappointed in the last few years,Should be legitimate contenders with players like Cian Mackey,Ronan Flanagan,Sean Brady backed by the likes of Dane Smith,John Clarke,Enda Mulvey,Nigel Duignan,Paul Brady and co.
They have Eamon Barry managing them this year so they may be on their way back to the latter stages.

Prediction-quarter finalists,have the potential to go further,but have flattered to deceive the last couple of years.

Gowna-You would think a team with McCabe,McKeever,and Pierson would be legitimate contenders and potential champions.
But i cant see it.
They have some good supporting players like,Niall Madden,Wille Stephens,Ciaran Fitzpatrick,Ciaran Brady jnr,but with Bernard Morris managing and not playing, and Ciaran Brady on his very last legs,they just dont have the overall quality of past Gowna Teams.
The big X Factor of course is Paddy Brady,
Hes been injury prone for the last 5 years,A fit Paddy Brady would leave this Gowna team as legitimate contenders,but ive seen nothing to believe he will be fit and back to his best.

Prediction- Quarter Finals most likely,McCabe could conceiveabely drag them to a county final on his own like he done two years ago,but i cant see it.

Ballinagh-
An awful lot of talent at this club,but circumstances with Supporters htting officials etc have left a cloud over the club over the past 18 months.
They have lost a fair bit of talent to Austrailia, Cian McDermott/Ciaran Brady are two i know thats gone,But the list is long so im told
a Fit and focused  Anthony Gaynor would be a great help,but with him,you just never know.
with all their missing players,they still have some great talent at the club,in Niall McDermott,Patrick Carroll,Damien McInerney,Podge,Alan Durkin,David Finnegan,Kevin Smith amongst others.
They are in a tough group though,so i cant see them progressing.
They will have more than enough to stay up though.

Prediction-wont get through the group stages

Crosserlough
2nd Bottom in Division One,they have been a mess this year since Ollie Murphy left them.
They will put in some decent performances in the championship,as they have some good players in Declan and Enda Gaffney,Johnny Crowe(if fit) Tomas McEvoy,Declan McCabe and co.

Prediction-Wont get past the group stages as they arent going well this year.
Could be a possible contender for relegation if they dont seriously improve.

Ramor Utd-
Going well in the league,
if all their players,Stephen Monaghan,Raymond Farrelly,Adrian Cole,Anton Reily,James McEnroe,Paddy McNamee and co are around and firing at all cylinders,they could go far
Ive also been told Keith Soden and Peter Monaghan are around this year(maybe Hollowman will confirm this)
Those two would be great additions to an already talented team.
Prediction-Have the talent to get to a final,But Semi or Quarter final is probably more realistic.

Cuchullains-
disasterous league campaign this year,
Things arent great in the camp,with Eugene Keating gone from them.
Lots of good players, in Barry Smith,Gavin Daly,Donnacha Dunne,Seamus Clarke and co though.
Prediction-Wont progress from the group,but wont have any relegation worries i dont think.

West Cavan Gaels-
Know nothing about them,Amalgamation of 3 junior teams from west Cavan from what im told.
I would say they will seriously be out of their depth.

Now i dont know group wise who is in which,so dont be bitching and complaining,if i tipped 3 teams from the same group to get to a semi or quarter final.
Intermediate tommorow.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on June 10, 2009, 04:59:42 PM
Someone had a productive afternoon  ;D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on June 10, 2009, 06:27:38 PM
Quote from: cavan4ever on June 10, 2009, 04:59:42 PM
Someone had a productive afternoon  ;D

Haha! What do work as BHM? Must have been a quiet day at the office ;) Only buzzing, thanks for the preview. Was thinking about doing the intermediate one, but seems like a lot of effort! Now a lot about all the teams but I am sure the Celt will have something, il buy it if I leave the house today  ;D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Rollout on June 10, 2009, 06:41:22 PM
Gunners handball matches are being shown live on the internet if anyones interested.
Theres a small download at www.ushandball.org ,if i've worked the time difference out right his quarterfinal should be on at around 8 this evening.

St. Pats handball clubmen Pat Clerkin and James Brady are also competing and have good chances in the mens A and B resp.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on June 10, 2009, 07:25:44 PM
By the way, don't forget there is no relegation in the Senior and Intermediate championship this year and next
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on June 10, 2009, 09:57:36 PM
Quote from: cavan4ever on June 10, 2009, 04:59:42 PM
Someone had a productive afternoon  ;D
quite  :D

Quote from: put-it-up on June 10, 2009, 06:27:38 PM
Quote from: cavan4ever on June 10, 2009, 04:59:42 PM
Someone had a productive afternoon  ;D

Haha! What do work as BHM? Must have been a quiet day at the office ;) Only buzzing, thanks for the preview. Was thinking about doing the intermediate one, but seems like a lot of effort! Now a lot about all the teams but I am sure the Celt will have something, il buy it if I leave the house today  ;D

as you can see i do sweet f**k all,  ;D
pity i f**ked it all about  the relegation.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on June 11, 2009, 02:52:03 PM
From a poster on Hoganstand

I hear that four Cavan Gaels players who had planned to play football in Boston for the summer were deported from the airport over there on arrival. Please say that they have all signed sanctions and won't be allowed to play any football until August, how funny/embarrasing would that be?



Anyone hear anything bout this or is it crap?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on June 11, 2009, 05:53:38 PM
Quote from: cavan4ever on June 11, 2009, 02:52:03 PM
From a poster on Hoganstand

I hear that four Cavan Gaels players who had planned to play football in Boston for the summer were deported from the airport over there on arrival. Please say that they have all signed sanctions and won't be allowed to play any football until August, how funny/embarrasing would that be?



Anyone hear anything bout this or is it crap?


Oh its true alright.they would have to have signed their 60 day sanctions before they left.So I cant see any way around it.One of the lads said that he was working for 2 weeks-Big NoNo.
I feel sorry for the lads TBH,Having been in the same position 2 years ago in Boston.We were grilled for 2 hours in Logan airport,but they had pity on us and let us through Thank god.Them Immigration officers make ya feel like Bin Laden :'( :'(
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Rollout on June 11, 2009, 07:22:20 PM
Gunner is playing his semi final against Luis Moreno now. Should be a cracker.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tierworker blue on June 11, 2009, 09:18:56 PM
Any stirrings on whether the Cavan v Donegal / Antrim match will be a pay in or an all ticket affair?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on June 11, 2009, 10:06:25 PM
Knockbride and Drumlane drew in Redhills tonight.Drumlane shud have won it but in the end were lucky to get the draw.
Denn were up 1-5 to 0-4 at HT. Im sure Denn4ever or RednBlack will fill us in.

BH Man I was waiting on your Championship predictions all day with bated breath,very disappointed :P :P
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on June 11, 2009, 10:21:16 PM
Draw in Breffini
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on June 11, 2009, 10:22:57 PM
Quote from: boojangles on June 11, 2009, 10:06:25 PM
Knockbride and Drumlane drew in Redhills tonight.Drumlane shud have won it but in the end were lucky to get the draw.
Denn were up 1-5 to 0-4 at HT. Im sure Denn4ever or RednBlack will fill us in.

BH Man I was waiting on your Championship predictions all day with bated breath,very disappointed :P :P

That other one took me nearly an hour to write  :D
Il leave the intermediate to yourself Boojangles
dont want to be stirring it with a game this weekend  :P
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on June 11, 2009, 10:34:15 PM
Quote from: cavan4ever on June 11, 2009, 10:21:16 PM
Draw in Breffini

Succinct and that is all you could say.  Won't leave anyone quaking in their boots.  We almost managed to pluck defeat from the jaws of victory.   We haven't had a victory all year and so we couldn't finish it off.

Some very strange decisions.  Why was the Killygarry guy sent off?  There were two of them at it.  I can only assume that he said something to the ref.  The Umpire did not seem to raise any objection.

Now tomorrows game should be a full throttle affair.

Spell checker gave Killygarry as Calgary.  Fittting really for the fare tonight.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on June 11, 2009, 10:38:23 PM
Quote from: Denn Forever on June 11, 2009, 10:34:15 PM
Quote from: cavan4ever on June 11, 2009, 10:21:16 PM
Draw in Breffini

Succinct and that is all you could say.  Won't leave anyone quaking in their boots.  We almost managed to pluck defeat from the jaws of victory.   We haven't had a victory all year and so we couldn't finish it off.

Some very strange decisions.  Why was the Killygarry guy sent off?  There were two of them at it.  I can only assume that he said something to the ref.  The Umpire did not seem to raise any objection.

Now tomorrows game should be a full throttle affair.

Spell checker gave Killygarry as Calgary.  Fittting really for the fare tonight.

Was it two yellows for he killygarry player? 

Ref did best to get Killygarry level and then didnt want them to win it.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on June 11, 2009, 11:04:18 PM
Quote from: cavan4ever on June 11, 2009, 10:38:23 PM
Quote from: Denn Forever on June 11, 2009, 10:34:15 PM
Quote from: cavan4ever on June 11, 2009, 10:21:16 PM
Draw in Breffini

Succinct and that is all you could say.  Won't leave anyone quaking in their boots.  We almost managed to pluck defeat from the jaws of victory.   We haven't had a victory all year and so we couldn't finish it off.

Some very strange decisions.  Why was the Killygarry guy sent off?  There were two of them at it.  I can only assume that he said something to the ref.  The Umpire did not seem to raise any objection.

Now tomorrows game should be a full throttle affair.

Spell checker gave Killygarry as Calgary.  Fittting really for the fare tonight.

Was it two yellows for he killygarry player? 

Ref did best to get Killygarry level and then didnt want them to win it.
Stephen McGovern got a second yellow-was booked in the first half. Didn't see what happened. A few bad decisions but overall I didn't think the ref did as bad as some thought. Some of the abuse from the Killygarry crowd was ridiculous. Strange game. Killygarry didn't score for about 25 minutes and went from 0-04 to 0-01 up to 1-05 to 0-04 down. But Denn got too deep and invited them on and paid the price. Where is Hubert Smith and Fergal Brady gone Denn Forever?
I think the Bridge beat Kildallon by a few points-didn't quite hear the score.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on June 12, 2009, 08:06:30 AM
Bridge 0-11 Kildallon 0-10 i think.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on June 12, 2009, 10:32:00 AM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on June 11, 2009, 10:22:57 PM
Quote from: boojangles on June 11, 2009, 10:06:25 PM
Knockbride and Drumlane drew in Redhills tonight.Drumlane shud have won it but in the end were lucky to get the draw.
Denn were up 1-5 to 0-4 at HT. Im sure Denn4ever or RednBlack will fill us in.

BH Man I was waiting on your Championship predictions all day with bated breath,very disappointed :P :P

That other one took me nearly an hour to write  :D
Il leave the intermediate to yourself Boojangles
dont want to be stirring it with a game this weekend  :P

Id never try to fill your boots BH Man. :P Id know most of the teams in Intermediate but I havent seen enough of any of them this year to pass proper judgement so Im not gonna start.Theres nothing I hate more than lazy journalism,something we had been more than used to in Cavan for long enough.
Have to say Im having secong thoughts after tipping Knockbride to go the whole way after seeing them last night.Drumlane were the better team and really should have had the game wrapped up.They missed 2 clear cut goal chances and a few points but I suppose Fair play to Knockbride for coming back from 4 points down and after missing a penalty.
Celt Man had you the spies out? The draw will leave the group wide open still anyway.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on June 12, 2009, 10:38:07 AM
Quote from: tierworker blue on June 11, 2009, 09:18:56 PM
Any stirrings on whether the Cavan v Donegal / Antrim match will be a pay in or an all ticket affair?

Id be pretty confident that it will be pay at the gate but the covered stand will be tickets.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on June 12, 2009, 12:06:43 PM
Well he done your fairly quick for over carrying in injury time, he only had it caught and he did him  :D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on June 12, 2009, 12:47:42 PM
Quote from: RednBlack on June 12, 2009, 12:01:11 PM
Quote from: cavan4ever on June 11, 2009, 10:38:23 PM
Quote from: Denn Forever on June 11, 2009, 10:34:15 PM
Quote from: cavan4ever on June 11, 2009, 10:21:16 PM
Draw in Breffini

Succinct and that is all you could say.  Won't leave anyone quaking in their boots.  We almost managed to pluck defeat from the jaws of victory.   We haven't had a victory all year and so we couldn't finish it off.

Some very strange decisions.  Why was the Killygarry guy sent off?  There were two of them at it.  I can only assume that he said something to the ref.  The Umpire did not seem to raise any objection.

Now tomorrows game should be a full throttle affair.

Spell checker gave Killygarry as Calgary.  Fittting really for the fare tonight.

Was it two yellows for he killygarry player? 

Ref did best to get Killygarry level and then didnt want them to win it.

Is it any wonder he wanted a draw. Stupid decision from CCC to put a Kingscourt man on a game between two sides in the same group as his own club Kingscourt.

Dreadful football from both teams and why Martin Reilly was left inside for so long did not make any sense. Midfield was lot 10 minutes in yet no changes made.

A lot of people cry about football standards throughout the county but surely we need to do something about the quality of refereeing. Watched our Under 14s play during the week against Denn and our lads got kicked around the park for the hour. Some of the comments from the ref to players during the game were unbelievable and he said he isn't into showing cards to under 14's. Madness.

It seems that whoever is organising the fixtures just doesnt think.Jimmy Galligan from Lacken was down to referee our game at the weekend against Lavey,with Terry Hyland from Lacken over Lavey. A wee bit more thought obviously should go into these decisions. Even at Underage in Cavan, I know of a well known referee who in the last month or 2 has refereed 2 U-16 games involving his own nephew. :o :oShows the honesty of the referee,but TBH I wouldnt expect any better.
As for the standard of refereeing,well I gave up on it a few years ago.I dunno if its the same in every county but I could name all the good referees in this county in 20 seconds. Far too many referees with an agenda and trying to get revenge on other clubs. We have been paying for the mistakes of a now retired referee from my club, for the last decade.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on June 12, 2009, 01:04:19 PM
I was wondering if either team objected to the Referee before the game.  Should have done.

Well done with the U14 the day before!  It was obvious he wasn'y going to give red cards when your player was poleaxed by it would seem a petulent Denn player.  You'd never think that might go on at U14, but remembeing back it did.

Preparation before game has improved/got more complex. When I was playing fado fado, good preparation was not having that can of Coke before the throw in or the midfielder  (who'd left primary school the year before) not passing around the Major.

But how cool was that to have the Roinn A final under floodlights?  If Bailieboro had started playing earliier, it could have been closer.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tierworker blue on June 12, 2009, 01:38:58 PM
Quote from: cavan4ever on June 12, 2009, 10:38:07 AM
Quote from: tierworker blue on June 11, 2009, 09:18:56 PM
Any stirrings on whether the Cavan v Donegal / Antrim match will be a pay in or an all ticket affair?

Id be pretty confident that it will be pay at the gate but the covered stand will be tickets.

Aye, I was thinking that allright. Cheers dude...
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Babe Ruth 47 on June 12, 2009, 02:03:40 PM
Strange game alright in the park with peculiar refereeing to add to the mix. Killygarry again seem the lack the determination to drive on when they get a lead. Major flaw in my opinion. In fairness to Denn though, they kicked a couple of great points to bring it back level when they were 4-1 down. Denn seemed to just try and defend their 4 point lead right from the throw in in the second half. They very seldom got forward though Killygarry lacked the guile to brake down the packed defence. Martin Reilly kicked some huge scores from frees from the ground, one of which must have bee 55 yards on his bad side. Very strange refereeing throughout, Killygarry's wee centre forward (Mc Gorven i think) was nearly decapitated on at least 2 occasions and didn't even get a free. Strange too to see Killygarry get more cards, both yellow and red over the course of the hour despite Denn being the team playing on the edge. One of the strangest decisions of the lot was the decision to penalise the Killygarry no. 18 for over carrying in front of the post despite having only landed after catching the ball. In fairness to the referee though the linesmen, especially those under the stand, seem afraid of intimidation if they make a controversial decision.

Overall the standard of football was poor, the only players standing out were Martin Reilly, Thomas Corr and Mousey (Cant remember his name, Denn no.13 i think). As mentioned Reilly was outstanding from frees and played well in general. Thomas Corr and his partner Mc Kiernan absolutely destroyed the Killygarry midfield. Corr in particular was excellent in the air and driving forward at every opportunity. Kicked one very important point too. I think the lad has great potential as an intercounty footballer. I understand he got a run under that previous goon Keoghan, but maybe if he got a run under a decent management set up he could thrive, he has the basics of height, power and ability in the air. That Mousey lad was a useful outlet for Denn, his pace had the Killygarry defence panicing every time he got the ball. Eoin Smith was also extremely composed through out. Very confident under a number of high balls.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on June 12, 2009, 02:36:37 PM
Quote from: Babe Ruth 47 on June 12, 2009, 02:03:40 PM
Strange game alright in the park with peculiar refereeing to add to the mix. Killygarry again seem the lack the determination to drive on when they get a lead. Major flaw in my opinion. In fairness to Denn though, they kicked a couple of great points to bring it back level when they were 4-1 down. Denn seemed to just try and defend their 4 point lead right from the throw in in the second half. They very seldom got forward though Killygarry lacked the guile to brake down the packed defence. Martin Reilly kicked some huge scores from frees from the ground, one of which must have bee 55 yards on his bad side. Very strange refereeing throughout, Killygarry's wee centre forward (Mc Gorven i think) was nearly decapitated on at least 2 occasions and didn't even get a free. Strange too to see Killygarry get more cards, both yellow and red over the course of the hour despite Denn being the team playing on the edge. One of the strangest decisions of the lot was the decision to penalise the Killygarry no. 18 for over carrying in front of the post despite having only landed after catching the ball. In fairness to the referee though the linesmen, especially those under the stand, seem afraid of intimidation if they make a controversial decision.

Overall the standard of football was poor, the only players standing out were Martin Reilly, Thomas Corr and Mousey (Cant remember his name, Denn no.13 i think). As mentioned Reilly was outstanding from frees and played well in general. Thomas Corr and his partner Mc Kiernan absolutely destroyed the Killygarry midfield. Corr in particular was excellent in the air and driving forward at every opportunity. Kicked one very important point too. I think the lad has great potential as an intercounty footballer. I understand he got a run under that previous goon Keoghan, but maybe if he got a run under a decent management set up he could thrive, he has the basics of height, power and ability in the air. That Mousey lad was a useful outlet for Denn, his pace had the Killygarry defence panicing every time he got the ball. Eoin Smith was also extremely composed through out. Very confident under a number of high balls.

I doubt if he is happy with his free taking, he missed some easy enough ones and seemed to kick the harder ones.   

I like the way you get your usual Eoin Smith is god statement in  :P
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Mr. Pain on June 12, 2009, 03:17:09 PM
Quote from: boojangles on June 11, 2009, 10:06:25 PM
BH Man I was waiting on your Championship predictions all day with bated breath,very disappointed :P :P

Quote from: boojangles on June 12, 2009, 10:32:00 AM
Id never try to fill your boots BH Man. :P

Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on June 08, 2009, 12:39:41 PM
You say the nicest things...  :-*

Love is in the air, do do do do do do...


Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on June 12, 2009, 04:43:45 PM
Quote from: Mr. Pain on June 12, 2009, 03:17:09 PM
Quote from: boojangles on June 11, 2009, 10:06:25 PM
BH Man I was waiting on your Championship predictions all day with bated breath,very disappointed :P :P

Quote from: boojangles on June 12, 2009, 10:32:00 AM
Id never try to fill your boots BH Man. :P

Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on June 08, 2009, 12:39:41 PM
You say the nicest things...  :-*

Love is in the air, do do do do do do...




I cant believe you went to the bother of copying and pasting that. ;D
You playing this weekend Mr Pain? how do you fancy your chances(with the game that is  :o )
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on June 12, 2009, 06:21:08 PM
Quote from: Babe Ruth 47 on June 12, 2009, 02:03:40 PM
Strange game alright in the park with peculiar refereeing to add to the mix. Killygarry again seem the lack the determination to drive on when they get a lead. Major flaw in my opinion. In fairness to Denn though, they kicked a couple of great points to bring it back level when they were 4-1 down. Denn seemed to just try and defend their 4 point lead right from the throw in in the second half. They very seldom got forward though Killygarry lacked the guile to brake down the packed defence. Martin Reilly kicked some huge scores from frees from the ground, one of which must have bee 55 yards on his bad side. Very strange refereeing throughout, Killygarry's wee centre forward (Mc Gorven i think) was nearly decapitated on at least 2 occasions and didn't even get a free. Strange too to see Killygarry get more cards, both yellow and red over the course of the hour despite Denn being the team playing on the edge. One of the strangest decisions of the lot was the decision to penalise the Killygarry no. 18 for over carrying in front of the post despite having only landed after catching the ball. In fairness to the referee though the linesmen, especially those under the stand, seem afraid of intimidation if they make a controversial decision.

Overall the standard of football was poor, the only players standing out were Martin Reilly, Thomas Corr and Mousey (Cant remember his name, Denn no.13 i think). As mentioned Reilly was outstanding from frees and played well in general. Thomas Corr and his partner Mc Kiernan absolutely destroyed the Killygarry midfield. Corr in particular was excellent in the air and driving forward at every opportunity. Kicked one very important point too. I think the lad has great potential as an intercounty footballer. I understand he got a run under that previous goon Keoghan, but maybe if he got a run under a decent management set up he could thrive, he has the basics of height, power and ability in the air. That Mousey lad was a useful outlet for Denn, his pace had the Killygarry defence panicing every time he got the ball. Eoin Smith was also extremely composed through out. Very confident under a number of high balls.

Its a terror the way people can read a game differently.My brother was in the park and he said that Eoin McPhillips had the upper hand on Martin Reilly while he also said that while Eoin Smith marked his man well,he was fairly quiet and never looked for the ball.
Who was the referee last nite anyway?

Me and BH Man would definitely make a great couple.Like he knows who I am,Im just waiting on the first move!

Mr Pain oh wise one 8) -come on put your neck on the line and give us your predictions for the Championship?

Great evening for a game,hopefully we get a humdinger in the Park.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on June 12, 2009, 06:36:58 PM
Quote from: boojangles on June 12, 2009, 06:21:08 PM
Quote from: Babe Ruth 47 on June 12, 2009, 02:03:40 PM
Strange game alright in the park with peculiar refereeing to add to the mix. Killygarry again seem the lack the determination to drive on when they get a lead. Major flaw in my opinion. In fairness to Denn though, they kicked a couple of great points to bring it back level when they were 4-1 down. Denn seemed to just try and defend their 4 point lead right from the throw in in the second half. They very seldom got forward though Killygarry lacked the guile to brake down the packed defence. Martin Reilly kicked some huge scores from frees from the ground, one of which must have bee 55 yards on his bad side. Very strange refereeing throughout, Killygarry's wee centre forward (Mc Gorven i think) was nearly decapitated on at least 2 occasions and didn't even get a free. Strange too to see Killygarry get more cards, both yellow and red over the course of the hour despite Denn being the team playing on the edge. One of the strangest decisions of the lot was the decision to penalise the Killygarry no. 18 for over carrying in front of the post despite having only landed after catching the ball. In fairness to the referee though the linesmen, especially those under the stand, seem afraid of intimidation if they make a controversial decision.

Overall the standard of football was poor, the only players standing out were Martin Reilly, Thomas Corr and Mousey (Cant remember his name, Denn no.13 i think). As mentioned Reilly was outstanding from frees and played well in general. Thomas Corr and his partner Mc Kiernan absolutely destroyed the Killygarry midfield. Corr in particular was excellent in the air and driving forward at every opportunity. Kicked one very important point too. I think the lad has great potential as an intercounty footballer. I understand he got a run under that previous goon Keoghan, but maybe if he got a run under a decent management set up he could thrive, he has the basics of height, power and ability in the air. That Mousey lad was a useful outlet for Denn, his pace had the Killygarry defence panicing every time he got the ball. Eoin Smith was also extremely composed through out. Very confident under a number of high balls.

Its a terror the way people can read a game differently.My brother was in the park and he said that Eoin McPhillips had the upper hand on Martin Reilly while he also said that while Eoin Smith marked his man well,he was fairly quiet and never looked for the ball.
Who was the referee last nite anyway?

Me and BH Man would definitely make a great couple.Like he knows who I am,Im just waiting on the first move!

Mr Pain oh wise one 8) -come on put your neck on the line and give us your predictions for the Championship?

Great evening for a game,hopefully we get a humdinger in the Park.
Tis strange how games are seen differently. While the Denn midfield were on top overall the first 15 minutes I couldn't believe how dominant Killygarry were. Donal Thomas rose uncontested on more than one occassion to claim kick-outs. Padraig Cahill was dominating at CB and then all of a sudden at 0-04 - 0-01 up they all stopped playing. I don't think McPhilips had the better of Reilly although he played quite well on the ball. I also thought Eoin Smith was brought out to the middle too much to assess overall.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on June 12, 2009, 06:43:04 PM
Wasn't impressed by Denn and Ki;ygarry at all last night. Denn are desperately short of some fire power and lets jsut say the refereeing was dubious to say the least! What eegit let a Kingscourt ref, do the game anyway!

Our boys Bailieborough are in for a big test tomorro against Drung, don't know if they have it in them.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on June 12, 2009, 10:17:06 PM
CG won but it was rather a damp squib. 

He who holds Sean Johnson have some hope.  Not a lot but some. 

CG always were in control and Mullahoran were in it, fluctuating between 2 to 3 points in arrears at the start of the 2nd half.  Mullahoran should have put away a 21 yard free but it was given welly, hit the post and rebounded far out.  After that, CG coasted.

Was somebody sent off?  Throughout the second half, Eamonn Reilly seemed to be playing sweeper but in any case Mullahoran couldn't get the ball up.

A poor two games in the Park.  Ah well there is always tomorrow.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Babe Ruth 47 on June 13, 2009, 12:16:05 AM
Agree with the above in the main. Final score 12 to 1-5. Another poor game, decent 1st but atrocious second half. Fairly tame game in general. Johnston the Gael main and arguably only attacking threat. More to follow at a more reasonable hour..............
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: sams the aim on June 13, 2009, 12:29:25 AM
yea poor game in breffni gaels always looke dcomfortable. Johnston class of his own although looked a bit injured and not overly pushed by the end everything he does just produces sumit. Mullahorn were poor and are very hit and miss in front of goal. hopefully tomorrows games will be better. Mullahorn goalie very good i have to say some super saves.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: RednBlack on June 13, 2009, 08:59:40 AM
Congrats to Paul Brady on his win in the states last night. The man is a true superstar.

http://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/championship/2009/0612/bradyp.html (http://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/championship/2009/0612/bradyp.html)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on June 13, 2009, 11:55:25 AM
Quote from: sams the aim on June 13, 2009, 12:29:25 AM
yea poor game in breffni gaels always looke dcomfortable.  :-* :-* :-*Johnston class of his own although looked a bit injured and not overly pushed by the end everything he does just produces sumit :-* :-* :-*. Mullahorn were poor and are very hit and miss in front of goal. hopefully tomorrows games will be better. Mullahorn goalie very good i have to say some super saves.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on June 13, 2009, 12:31:51 PM
Quote from: RednBlack on June 13, 2009, 08:41:14 AM
Will never understand how Eamonn Brady was not Cavan goalie for a number of years. The guy is a top class football man and is proving it even still not only on the pitch but off it with is work at underage with Castletara.


Couldnt agree more,the save he pulled off from Maloney in the 2nd half was Top drawer.A very quiet,unassuming man but still the best goalkeeper in Senior football in the county.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Drung on June 13, 2009, 02:41:15 PM
Good enough keeper, cost them a county final one year though.
Of senior ranks, the Lacken, Cuchullains, Belturbet, Redhills goalkeepers are all fairly good.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on June 13, 2009, 02:47:37 PM
Quote from: Drung on June 13, 2009, 02:41:15 PM
Good enough keeper, cost them a county final one year though.
Of senior ranks, the Lacken, Cuchullains, Belturbet, Redhills goalkeepers are all fairly good.
Ha?

Ye Shane Sheridan,Colm Anderson,Aaron Donohue and Fintan Reilly.All good goalies.Something we never fail to produce in Cavan in my lifetime anyway.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on June 13, 2009, 07:26:36 PM
Baileboro beat Drung this evening.  Thats 3 games ive been at now and none of them have being worth the entrance fee.  Anyway i would fancy Baileboro to get out of the group now but that will be as far as they will go.  They have a good full forward but i feel if he was held it would go along way to stopping them.  Watters was stretchered off early on which looked like an ankle injury. They had two sent off one with a straight red.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on June 13, 2009, 09:06:07 PM
Quote from: RednBlack on June 13, 2009, 08:43:41 PM
A real case of the uprights between Drumalee and Lavey. Balls coming back off them ending up as goals. Thought Lavey were unlucky not to get a penalty near the end. Poor football to watch. A few petulant digs going in off the ball and a few can thank their lucky stars they didn't get gate.

Don't know what game you were at? there wasnt one off the ball incident throughout,and only 3 bookings,correct me if Im wrong.Was by no means a dirty game. Mite have been poor to watch but at least there was a bit of bite to it.2 well matched teams playing Championship football at a good pace.
Laveys goal came from a rebound off the post,that was it.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on June 13, 2009, 10:01:51 PM
Congrats Boojangles-brilliant result for ye. Was up in Breffni. Castlerathan beat Ramor by around 10 points. Much like the Killygarry v Denn game I was at on Thursday, some teams just can't cut it mentally. Ramor fought back from 0-06 0-01 down to be level at 6 each but lost it completely at midfield for a 15 minute spell after the break and Castlerathan walked it without really having to try. Ramor had them against the ropes for the second quarter and they must question themselves as to why they couldn't maintain the effort. They kept Mackey very quiet apart from one great run late on. Ray Cole still soldiering away well at FB and that McNamee lad looked very good if he'd gotten any ball. If Anton Reilly put his talent to use instead of retaliating to every challenge and every decision given against him they'd have fared much better.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on June 14, 2009, 10:57:21 AM
Watters and McKeirnan both got lifts yesteday in ambulances.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on June 14, 2009, 02:26:37 PM
Yea there's talk that Barry may have broken his ankle, hope it's not true. McKiernan fro Swad yea? What way did that finish?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Drung on June 14, 2009, 02:36:53 PM
Barry's injury was nasty enough looking. I heard that G McKiernan from Swad broke his leg badly - hopefully not.
Swad won it by a couple of points.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on June 14, 2009, 05:34:13 PM
Yes I think Gearoid McKiernan broke his leg,hear it was a bad break too.Swad bet the Gaels by 4,Gaels had a man sent off after 5 minutes.
Was talking to a lad from Drung,they werent sure about Barry Watters injury,think it could be a broken ankle.Wish them both a speedy recovery.Not nice to happen to any young lad but especially when they are 2 very promising footballers.
Ballyhaise bet Killeshandra by 7 points earlier.Ballyhaise looked very impressive and very clinical in front of goals.Killeshandra missed a heap in the first half and Ballyhaise took their chances,that was the difference. Kevin Tierney and Fergal Slowey both came on,which is another bonus for Big S.
Gowna were beating CuCus 12 points to 7 with time near up.Poor game.Pierson picked up a bit of an injury but played on anyway.He still looked impressive.On todays performance,the Gaels would have to b fancied for another Championship.
Redhills bet Drumbride 2-16 to 1-9 in Drumalee.Larry Reilly didnt play.
Laragh and Killinkere drew 2-8 to 0-14
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on June 14, 2009, 06:49:50 PM
McKiernan is in a bad way from what I am told...Dislocated knee cap, and tore his cruciate aswell I believe...Awful news

Watters I don't think is as bad, its not broken, but he could be in bother with ligaments.

Tomas Reilly limped off today aswell
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on June 14, 2009, 07:05:53 PM
Ballyhaise did look very good but Killeshandra's tactics are baffling with every free being bombed in by McKiernan with no target. They're at their best when carrying and supporting but they had an off day in that regard. Gowna won in the end. McCabed completely dominated Farrelly at midfield and I thought their brand of accurate foot-passing was very impressive. Agreed that it's the Gaels title to lose having seen 6 contenders play over the weekend.
Why was Larry not playing? The more I think about these amalgamations the worse I think the idea is.
And what about Antrim. Just watched it on BBC and we have little to fear (although of course we're no world beaters and complacecny isn't an option). Donegal had 17 wides and some of them were just atrocious.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on June 14, 2009, 07:08:26 PM
Quote from: Lawrence of Knockbride on June 14, 2009, 07:05:53 PM
Ballyhaise did look very good but Killeshandra's tactics are baffling with every free being bombed in by McKiernan with no target. They're at their best when carrying and supporting but they had an off day in that regard. Gowna won in the end. McCabed completely dominated Farrelly at midfield and I thought their brand of accurate foot-passing was very impressive. Agreed that it's the Gaels title to lose having seen 6 contenders play over the weekend.
Why was Larry not playing? The more I think about these amalgamations the worse I think the idea is.
And what about Antrim. Just watched it on BBC and we have little to fear (although of course we're no world beaters and complacecny isn't an option). Donegal had 17 wides and some of them were just atrocious.

Larry has a dead leg.  Redhills were very impressive today and they were missing 2 or 3 key players. 

Fair play to Antrim good win for them.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on June 14, 2009, 08:06:19 PM
Liam Bradley was no doubt at the Cavan/Fermanagh game aswell and will have Cavans tactics well disected.
Dont want to see Michael Brides in at cornerback against Antrim,
Tomas McCann and Paddy Cunningham would roast him.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on June 14, 2009, 08:17:58 PM
Yep anyone rubbing their hands at the thoughts of an Ulster final because we're "only playing Antrim" in the semi would want to cop on.

All things being equal you would expect us to beat Antrim but you only have to look at Donegal to see what complacency can do, by the time they realised they were in a match, their goose was cooked although poor shooting when dominating the play was what really killed them off more than any great brilliance by Antrim per se.

The Saffrons are full of spirit and hard work though, very reliant on numbers/a deep lying defence like Fermanagh and they do it very well but committing so many numbers has to mean there's men free somewhere, so once again the game plan has to be long quick deliveries from our own 45 or switching play crossfield, and never mind the short passing in the corners that Donegal persisted with. If we go into this game with anything less than 100% application and effort, we could easily lose it, we were fully switched on in that regard against Fermanagh and still played quite poorly IMO and could have lost - we need to heed the warnings.

We don't like being favourites and we need to show we have the balls to perform when expected to win. I'd be hopeful that Tommy and the lads won't piss on their own chips by letting this opportunity slip. An Ulster final appearance with such a young side would be a great achievement in year one and really bring the players along.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on June 14, 2009, 08:26:06 PM
Thankfully as most of our panel were involved in someway or another against Antrim last year and years previously,and have been involved in tough games against them,id like to think there would be no taking anyone for granted.
Ask yourself this, what have we achieved to warrant us taking anyone for granted?
We got past the first round in Ulster for the first time in 4 years,against a team which flopped on the day and still nearly beat us.
An awful lot of work to be done before the 27th if we are to get to an Ulster Final.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on June 14, 2009, 10:04:14 PM
Crawl, Walk, Run.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on June 14, 2009, 11:16:50 PM
Quote from: Denn Forever on June 14, 2009, 10:04:14 PM
Crawl, Walk, Run.


Correct, 100%.

Put it this way, if you offered an Antrim man (or woman come to think of it) the chance to take part in an Ulster final for the first time in 30 plus years with one win necessary, who would they want in their way? They have their wish, and so have we.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on June 14, 2009, 11:34:54 PM
Last 4 c'ship matches...

Cavan 2 wins
Antrim 1 win
1 draw

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Drung on June 14, 2009, 11:37:57 PM
Cavan have beaten Antrim five or six times in the last few years in McKenna Cup and championship and drew a couple of times. That's a better record than we have against anyone.
Plus, Antrim were the only Division Four team in Ulster.
If we're being honest, Cavan usually beat Antrim most of the time and if both sides play to their best, Cavan will beat them again.
However, if we underperform - as we often do - they should beat us.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on June 14, 2009, 11:46:36 PM
Drung if I recall correctly you beat us by a point this year and we beat you by a point last year so I'm not sure about your 5 or 6 times...

I think there's also been a draw off late.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on June 14, 2009, 11:59:54 PM
Jesus the ambulances were in big demand this weekend! Mark Lynch from Crosserlough rushed off in an ambulance.Not sure whats the matter,think it was his ankle.Could be ligaments?
A game of 2 halfs really in the Park. Crooserlough showed great heart in the 1st,defended very well,particularly Colin Lynch at Full-Back and Pauric McKiernan at Midfield.Ballinagh kicked some very bad wides and looked very shaky.Half time was 1-3 to 0-2 to the Lough.But whatever John Mulvaney said at half time worked a treat as the Nagh came out a different side in the second half.Niall McDermott was the key man,with alot going through him,he kicked some fine scores and Pauric and Niall Reilly were outstanding also.I would have been moving Colin Lynch over on McDermott TBH,very impressed with Lynch throughout.Game finished 1-12 to 1-07 to Ballinagh.Ballinagh mite fancy their chances of beating Mullahoran if they could produce that second half display again.Cavan Gaels next for them though.
Gaynor came on with 5 minutes to go.

Cavan Antrim will be a war of attrition Id imagine.Its a massive chance for both teams,and as pointed out Antrim have massive motivation to reach their first Ulster final since 1970? playing the one team they would fancy their chances against.Alot has changed in both counties since we met last year so its hard to take anything from that win.Ultimately its 2 Division 3 sides so no reason for Cavan to be cocky. Time will tell how far Cavan have come.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on June 15, 2009, 11:48:32 AM
Not much to add on what Boojangles has said (Although I think it's Mullahoran and not the Gaels up next for Ballinagh (I think!))

Ballinagh started lively but wanted to rush the ball over the bar, and over-panicked and hurried themselves when it started to take a while. Having said that Crosserlough's defending was immense in the first half but they just didn't get enough relief from their midfield and half-forward line. Our lot eventually found their shooting boots in the second half and probably won the match in a 20 minute spell.

Also attended the Gaels-Mullahoran and Castlerahen-Ramor matches. Gaels never had to get out of second gear and it was hard to believe Mullahoran were so close to them for long periods of the game. Wouldn't take much out of Mullahoran's performance, they'll give ourselves and Crosserlough a much sterner test.

Castlerahen looked impressive, again without going through many gears, Mackey was the key-man and didn't show any ill-effects from the Fermanagh game. Ramor were far cry from last years side. Was Aido Cole injured?

Mark Lynch's injury looked to be the ankle, poor fella was in a lot of distress. Hopefully it isn't as bad as feared. Most of this weekends matches were played on very ground that had a spill of rain a couple of hours before, unfortunately those conditions are always liable for serious leg injuries.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on June 15, 2009, 02:00:48 PM
Anyone have any view on Oisin Minagh from Redhills.  He has a outstanding game yesterday marking Keith Fannin at both wing back and full back.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on June 15, 2009, 03:12:48 PM
Quote from: cavan4ever on June 15, 2009, 02:00:48 PM
Anyone have any view on Oisin Minagh from Redhills.  He has a outstanding game yesterday marking Keith Fannin at both wing back and full back.

Don't know alot about him,TBH wasnt that impressed with him as a Minor last year but I did hear that he was outstanding yesterday,keeping Fannin out of the game and also scoring 2 points himself.Definitelt looks one for the future.
Redhills definitely should not be taken for granted by any team at Senior level.I heard they were superb yesterday,kicking most of the 2-17 from play.I thought Drumbride would put up a better show,but I suppose playing 2 Championship matches in the 1 wkend is always gonna be tough.Plus I just don't see what the motivation could be.
Belturbet also had a good win against the other amalgamation,West Cavan Gaels, 3-11 to 1-9 I heard.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on June 15, 2009, 03:32:00 PM
Quote from: boojangles on June 15, 2009, 03:12:48 PM
Quote from: cavan4ever on June 15, 2009, 02:00:48 PM
Anyone have any view on Oisin Minagh from Redhills.  He has a outstanding game yesterday marking Keith Fannin at both wing back and full back.

Don't know alot about him,TBH wasnt that impressed with him as a Minor last year but I did hear that he was outstanding yesterday,keeping Fannin out of the game and also scoring 2 points himself.Definitelt looks one for the future.
Redhills definitely should not be taken for granted by any team at Senior level.I heard they were superb yesterday,kicking most of the 2-17 from play.I thought Drumbride would put up a better show,but I suppose playing 2 Championship matches in the 1 wkend is always gonna be tough.Plus I just don't see what the motivation could be.
Belturbet also had a good win against the other amalgamation,West Cavan Gaels, 3-11 to 1-9 I heard.

The Drumgoon lads had a Stag on Saturday night and i dont think they were drinking water at it, really is a pointless experiment and after the beating they got yesterday id say they wont be interested in it for much longer. 


Just to update you on Barry Watters it is his ankle and Knee that are injured.  I heard Geroid Mckiernan was heading to London today to get his injury accessed, maybe swadman will update when he is on. 

I wonder will TC call up anyone to replace these two.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on June 15, 2009, 04:17:14 PM
Quote from: Homer on June 15, 2009, 11:48:32 AM
Although I think it's Mullahoran and not the Gaels up next for Ballinagh (I think!)

Wrong again, Gaels up next. Handy win for us  :P
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on June 15, 2009, 04:18:39 PM
Quote from: Homer on June 15, 2009, 04:17:14 PM
Quote from: Homer on June 15, 2009, 11:48:32 AM
Although I think it's Mullahoran and not the Gaels up next for Ballinagh (I think!)

Wrong again, Gaels up next. Handy win for us  :P


When are these games going to be anyway?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on June 15, 2009, 05:09:22 PM
Quote from: Homer on June 15, 2009, 04:17:14 PM
Quote from: Homer on June 15, 2009, 11:48:32 AM
Although I think it's Mullahoran and not the Gaels up next for Ballinagh (I think!)

Wrong again, Gaels up next. Handy win for us  :P
I was thinking,It was your Goalie,Mr McCarthy who said it to me.

We were told that the next Championship match miten't b for 6-7 weeks.They are after changing from the Master Fixtures as usual >:(.One of our players is off to the States in July for 3weeks,he was supposed to only miss one game going on the Master fixtures,now it looks like he will miss 2.They will be going ahead with the next round of League fixtures in 3 weeks.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: whats my name on June 15, 2009, 05:16:19 PM
from what i hear they are bring in a few new players onto the panel this week to train I'm not sure if its to replace the two boys or is it just for them to get experience with the senior setup!!!!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Bongo on June 15, 2009, 09:02:40 PM
I'm delighted that Bailieborough won their first champ match against Drung on Saturday. I was afraid that the step up from Div 3 fare would be too much for them. The momentum they've carryed into the match has stood them well. Hopefully they can keep it going now for the next match against Ballymachugh. The shamrocks were underdogs for this match and I think that was also in their favour. They wont have that luxury the next time and I'd say it'll be a very tight game.

I was a bit disappointed in the way Drung approached the game. They had obviously been instructed to hit Bailieborough hard, however I felt that they overdid the niggly stuff. Their no.5 never quit at it with P.Sharkey. To be honest I'm suprised Sharkey didn't swing for him at some stage. Bailieborough were caught out be this tactic and although they won they had 2 men sent off for retalatory swipes, Paddy Bird with 2 yellows and Neil Donnellan with a straight red.

I thought that Galligan started the game very well and I felt that we were going to get a bit of a hiding. But our lads stuck to the task and after about 15 mins Galligan faded out of the game. Now and again he showed glimpses of what you might expect from a county man, but in fairness he should have been lording over our 2 relatively limited (no offence intended) midfielders. He also was nowhere to be seen when Drung needed him most, near the end, when they mounted a comeback of sorts.

It's still a big ask for the shamrocks but I think we can qualify out of this group, probably along with Drumgoon.

I thought Jimmy Clarke, Gary Reilly, Declan Reilly, Paddy Bird all did well for the shamrocks. The 2 midfielders, Ollie Kelleher and Damien Sheridan, have to be comended for their display also, full of heart and workrate. Indeed that could be said of the entire team.

Another small bit of entertainment was seeing Ronan Crowe and Micky Murtagh squaring up to each other on the sideline. That would have been a hell of a fight if it had developed!

On a final note, I hope that Barry Watters makes a speedy recovery. It's not nice to see that happening to any young lad, especially a guy with his potential. Brian O'Callaghan was also carried off after about 2 minutes, hopefully he will make a quick recovery too.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on June 15, 2009, 09:26:28 PM
Quote from: Bongo on June 15, 2009, 09:02:40 PM
I'm delighted that Bailieborough won their first champ match against Drung on Saturday. I was afraid that the step up from Div 3 fare would be too much for them. The momentum they've carryed into the match has stood them well. Hopefully they can keep it going now for the next match against Ballymachugh. The shamrocks were underdogs for this match and I think that was also in their favour. They wont have that luxury the next time and I'd say it'll be a very tight game.

I was a bit disappointed in the way Drung approached the game. They had obviously been instructed to hit Bailieborough hard, however I felt that they overdid the niggly stuff. Their no.5 never quit at it with P.Sharkey. To be honest I'm suprised Sharkey didn't swing for him at some stage. Bailieborough were caught out be this tactic and although they won they had 2 men sent off for retalatory swipes, Paddy Bird with 2 yellows and Neil Donnellan with a straight red.

I thought that Galligan started the game very well and I felt that we were going to get a bit of a hiding. But our lads stuck to the task and after about 15 mins Galligan faded out of the game. Now and again he showed glimpses of what you might expect from a county man, but in fairness he should have been lording over our 2 relatively limited (no offence intended) midfielders. He also was nowhere to be seen when Drung needed him most, near the end, when they mounted a comeback of sorts.

It's still a big ask for the shamrocks but I think we can qualify out of this group, probably along with Drumgoon.

I thought Jimmy Clarke, Gary Reilly, Declan Reilly, Paddy Bird all did well for the shamrocks. The 2 midfielders, Ollie Kelleher and Damien Sheridan, have to be comended for their display also, full of heart and workrate. Indeed that could be said of the entire team.

Another small bit of entertainment was seeing Ronan Crowe and Micky Murtagh squaring up to each other on the sideline. That would have been a hell of a fight if it had developed!

On a final note, I hope that Barry Watters makes a speedy recovery. It's not nice to see that happening to any young lad, especially a guy with his potential. Brian O'Callaghan was also carried off after about 2 minutes, hopefully he will make a quick recovery too.

Paddy Bird got his second yellow for dragging a Drung player who beat him to the ball to the ground not for retaliating.  Baileboro gave as good as they got, and i wouldnt be happy about the way Watters got injured.  That is typical Galligan and im glad you said it because i would get slatted if i said it.  As for getting out of group i think you will but wont go any further.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on June 15, 2009, 10:38:53 PM
Bongo thanks for the report much appreciated in the exile community. Is that Micky Murtagh as in retired from senior a few years ago, well able to hold his own all right. Good to see Neil Donnellan togged out again-take it the likes of Robbie Mulhall and Andy Coleman are gone by the wayside by now. Anyway, good to see youth get it's fling and delighted to see the lads hold their own given that they are playing down at Junior level, not for too long hopefully.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Swadman on June 15, 2009, 11:40:24 PM
Hi Guys, Just in from watching Dernacrieve Gaels (swad & corlough) under 12's win by a point in a semi final against Killygarry. Killygarry must be commended for their management of underage football. Great attitude from young lads and management not F*ing and blinding from the side line. A big crowd came with them to Swad a witnessed a really exciting and close game. Both teams were rightly applauded off the field. The "2 touch" rule has revolutionised the underage game in Cavan, again Killygarry were to the fore in putting it forward and I'm glad to say our club were fully supportive of it. Thanks to a few more progressive clubs it was brought in at U-12 & U-14. If any of you get the chance to catch a game you will see that it can only be good for the future of the game.
On a sadder note i can confirm the injury to G McKiernan will keep him out of football this year. His kneecap came out of place. Going to the Mater, Dublin for further scan to see if any more damage. (hope not) John Cunningham is also out for a while and attending hospital with a swelling behind his eye causing blurred vision. Cracked the socket too in the only dirty incident of the game. Young Levi Murphy was unconcoius for a good half hour but was up and about in the hospital visiting all the Swad men in the ward.
More later
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on June 15, 2009, 11:47:49 PM
Mickey Murtagh,,,,now there is a man I would not mess with ;D

From the sounds of things there was some amount of injurys at the weekend. We all wish for hard ground, then it break legs and ankles and the whole lot!

On the point about Galligan,from what I am told, he didn't look like the best midfielder on the field, never mind the county at the weekend. Kelleher has some pair of hands on him though and if he knuckled down could make a serious midfielder.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on June 16, 2009, 02:13:48 AM
i dont know much about Mickey Murtagh other than that hes a former Shamrocks stalwart.
But he would want to be some bear of a man to even contemplate going at it one on one with Ronan Crowe,  :D
I could name you the footballers within the county on one hand that could compete with Crowe when the punches start flying   :P

We beat Killeshandra 2-09 to 0-10 on Sunday,Good win,Lots of lads played well,Lots of lads have a lot more in them,Good to see Fergal Slowey back after a year out.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on June 16, 2009, 11:23:18 AM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on June 16, 2009, 02:13:48 AM
i dont know much about Mickey Murtagh other than that hes a former Shamrocks stalwart.
But he would want to be some bear of a man to even contemplate going at it one on one with Ronan Crowe,  :D
I could name you the footballers within the county on one hand that could compete with Crowe when the punches start flying   :P

We beat Killeshandra 2-09 to 0-10 on Sunday,Good win,Lots of lads played well,Lots of lads have a lot more in them,Good to see Fergal Slowey back after a year out.


How did you get on yourself BH Man? I doubt it will take Slowey long to get up to the pace,he's one lad who looks after himself.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: An Laoch on June 16, 2009, 12:29:36 PM
What's the championship structure? Backdoors/groups etc

thanks
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on June 16, 2009, 01:10:44 PM
Quote from: Swadman on June 15, 2009, 11:40:24 PM
The "2 touch" rule has revolutionised the underage game in Cavan, again Killygarry were to the fore in putting it forward and I'm glad to say our club were fully supportive of it. Thanks to a few more progressive clubs it was brought in at U-12 & U-14. If any of you get the chance to catch a game you will see that it can only be good for the future of the game.

Glad to hear that they have implemented this rule in to Underage in the county.I was at the Bord Peil na Nog AGM last year when there was a motion to bring it in for U-14 football.It wasnt passed but it was decided to bring it in for U-13 which our club was fully behind.We played 2 games in last years U-13 Championship and the rule wasnt used in either game.I went to the ref before the game and he knew nothing off it.
But I suppose like most things in this county we are slow to cop on.Delighted to hear its working well anyway.It should improve the overall quality of all players,and will make sure that some teams aren't being carried by 3-4 individuals as has happened for too long in Cavan at Underage.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on June 16, 2009, 09:55:38 PM
Just watched the Antrim - Donegal game.  If Cavan played like they played and Antrim play like they played (I'm trying out for a pundit's job on the Sunday game), I think we're in for a humdinger.  Both teams have good Sigerson experience and so they should be able to stand the pressure and both side have very tasty forwards.

My fear is that both teams may get stage fright and it'll be bity and fractious, but as long as we win, jobs a good'un.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on June 17, 2009, 12:32:30 PM
If Cavan play to their full potential they should win just about, but the being favourites factor concerns me a lot along with the potential for complacency. Ironically given recent championship history I was very confident of a narrow win over Fermanagh in the lead up but not so much so in the case of Antrim because of the psychology at play more than anything.

If we approach it in the right manner then I think we should win it narrowly, for me how Tommy Carr prepares the players mentally is absolutely vital but I'm confident he will.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: whats my name on June 17, 2009, 01:29:26 PM
I hear eamon reilly of Shannon Gaels and donal Thomas where brought in to replace watters and mc kiernan they trained last night with the panel
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on June 17, 2009, 01:35:49 PM
Might as well post here too.... From Hoganstand....

Brady switches attention to football
14 June 2009

Paul Brady will be available for Cavan's Ulster SFC semi-final against either Donegal or Antrim after returning from his latest handball success in California.

Brady confirmed his number one status on the world handball stage when he defeated legendary American player David Chapman on Friday night to claim his fifth consecutive US Men's Open title. The Mullahoran man will return to the US for the World Championships in October but, in the meantime, will be concentrating all his efforts on football.

"I'm finished with handball until the World Championships in October, so I will be able to concentrate fully on football with Mullahoran and whatever Cavan are involved in," said Brady, who had trained with Tommy Carr's squad before he flew out to the US Nationals.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on June 17, 2009, 02:20:02 PM
Team i would like to see start.

Miller
Hannon
Sheridan
Cahill
P Reilly
Gunner
McCutheon
Walsh
Galligan
Mackey
Flanagan
Lyng
M Reilly
Cullivan
Johnston
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on June 17, 2009, 03:13:30 PM
Quote from: cavan4ever on June 17, 2009, 02:20:02 PM
Team i would like to see start.

Miller
Hannon
Sheridan
Cahill
P Reilly
Gunner
McCutheon
Walsh
Galligan
Mackey
Flanagan
Lyng
M Reilly
Cullivan
Johnston

agree with your selection.
Gunner for Keating
Lyng for Brady
Cahill for Brides
would make the team far stronger,

I believe Lyng is struggling to be fit for Saturday week though.
Could be Pierson coming in at corner forward and Martin Reily moving out to the wing
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on June 17, 2009, 06:11:00 PM
Quote from: RednBlack on June 17, 2009, 05:06:36 PM
Gunner has hamstring issue since returning from US. Lyng making slower progress than hoped. McKiernan out for 6 - 9 months. cruciate not ruptured.

Thats good news on Mckiernan.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on June 17, 2009, 07:17:35 PM
Is Millar a nickname for Reilly? 

Reilly did nothing wrong against Fermanagh so why change?

The only place that I would put Gunner in would be posiblely be a wing forward in place of Sean Brady but that would be a bit harsh on Sean.  If he doesn't start, he would be first sub as he could go into defense or attack.



Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tierworker blue on June 17, 2009, 07:30:12 PM
Quote from: Denn Forever on June 17, 2009, 07:17:35 PM
Is Millar a nickname for Reilly? 

Reilly did nothing wrong against Fermanagh so why change?

The only place that I would put Gunner in would be posiblely be a wing forward in place of Sean Brady but that would be a bit harsh on Sean.  If he doesn't start, he would be first sub as he could go into defense or attack.





Yep, Big James is aka Miller.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on June 17, 2009, 08:07:06 PM
Quote from: tierworker blue on June 17, 2009, 07:30:12 PM
Quote from: Denn Forever on June 17, 2009, 07:17:35 PM
Is Millar a nickname for Reilly? 

Reilly did nothing wrong against Fermanagh so why change?

The only place that I would put Gunner in would be posiblely be a wing forward in place of Sean Brady but that would be a bit harsh on Sean.  If he doesn't start, he would be first sub as he could go into defense or attack.





Yep, Big James is aka Miller.

Yes and he was partly at fault for the goal against Fermanagh due to his general doziness. Thats why people do fitness tests at training so that they might be on their toes to make the ball before the defender. Its not the 1st  time he's been caught like that either. Apart from that I was very impressed with hie variation on kick outs which is something they have obviously been working on
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on June 17, 2009, 08:14:49 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on June 17, 2009, 08:07:06 PM
Quote from: tierworker blue on June 17, 2009, 07:30:12 PM
Quote from: Denn Forever on June 17, 2009, 07:17:35 PM
Is Millar a nickname for Reilly? 

Reilly did nothing wrong against Fermanagh so why change?

The only place that I would put Gunner in would be posiblely be a wing forward in place of Sean Brady but that would be a bit harsh on Sean.  If he doesn't start, he would be first sub as he could go into defense or attack.





Yep, Big James is aka Miller.

Yes and he was partly at fault for the goal against Fermanagh due to his general doziness. Thats why people do fitness tests at training so that they might be on their toes to make the ball before the defender. Its not the 1st  time he's been caught like that either. Apart from that I was very impressed with hie variation on kick outs which is something they have obviously been working on

:D :D :D  You should see him for the club sometimes.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on June 17, 2009, 09:32:25 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on June 17, 2009, 08:07:06 PM
Quote from: tierworker blue on June 17, 2009, 07:30:12 PM
Quote from: Denn Forever on June 17, 2009, 07:17:35 PM
Is Millar a nickname for Reilly? 

Reilly did nothing wrong against Fermanagh so why change?

The only place that I would put Gunner in would be posiblely be a wing forward in place of Sean Brady but that would be a bit harsh on Sean.  If he doesn't start, he would be first sub as he could go into defense or attack.





Yep, Big James is aka Miller.

Yes and he was partly at fault for the goal against Fermanagh due to his general doziness. Thats why people do fitness tests at training so that they might be on their toes to make the ball before the defender. Its not the 1st  time he's been caught like that either. Apart from that I was very impressed with hie variation on kick outs which is something they have obviously been working on

As good a shoptstopper as he is It's definitely his weakness. I've seen him caught out once or twice for Drung and he also should have done a lot better for Benny Coulter's goal up in Casement a few years ago.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: trim blue on June 17, 2009, 11:14:09 PM
Bang on Maniac, while there is little in it Cavan will still be favourites and we are on a hiding to nothing, anything other than a convincing performance and a sizeable win and we will get little credit, psychologically that leaves Carr and the players a lot to deal with but I am more sure he will get their heads right than anytime since Eamon Coleman. If we were playing Donegal there would be a better chance of us making a significant step up in performance. Having said that I believe that if we get a hold in midfield, and I think we will have the advantage there, then we will take a much higher percentage of our chances than Donegal did. Carr will probably start with the same 15 especially with Gunner and Lyng doubtful but I would expect to see Gunner, Pierson, Givney and Larry come on, after Mulvey's 15 minute cleanout last year he might just get the chance to do the same this year too. Cavan by 2.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on June 17, 2009, 11:19:35 PM
Theres sort of a similar feeling to 2001 about this game if anyone can remember,
It was Cavan V Monaghan in the semi final,
Tyrone and could have been Derry/Armagh in other semi, No-one gave Cavan,Monaghan any attention,saying the other semi final was virtually the Ulster Final.
We got through, 0-13 0-11 if i can remember correctly.
Then played Tyrone off the park for the first 50 Minutes of the final before losing in the end by 2 points.
id take something similar this year.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: trim blue on June 17, 2009, 11:29:41 PM
True BM but we are arguably coming from a lower base now, in 01 we had McCabe on fire and Peter, Larry & Jason not too far behind, the performance against Down in Casement was one of the best ever by that team and McCabe's finest hour for me. I seem to remember your clubman McCrudden catching some fierce ball in the final but the turning point for me was Larry missing that chance to put us 4 up at the start of the second half and a bit of panic setting in...
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on June 18, 2009, 08:51:25 AM
Quote from: trim blue on June 17, 2009, 11:14:09 PM
Bang on Maniac, while there is little in it Cavan will still be favourites and we are on a hiding to nothing, anything other than a convincing performance and a sizeable win and we will get little credit, psychologically that leaves Carr and the players a lot to deal with but I am more sure he will get their heads right than anytime since Eamon Coleman. If we were playing Donegal there would be a better chance of us making a significant step up in performance.

I think that is bullshit, a one point win will do well for me anyway.  Antrim and Cavan are two division 3 teams now and its along time since Cavan have had a sizeable win again anyone.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Drung on June 18, 2009, 09:42:35 AM
QuoteGunner for Keating
Lyng for Brady
Cahill for Brides
would make the team far stronger,

I believe Lyng is struggling to be fit for Saturday week though.
Could be Pierson coming in at corner forward and Martin Reily moving out to the wing

I think it would be extremely harsh on Brides to be dropped, he didn't put a foot wrong against Fermanagh, apart from a bit of a lapse for the goal which Reilly probably should have kept out.
Also, I think Lyng is trading off his name. When was the last time he played better for Cavan than what Sean Brady showed against Fermanagh? Think about it. Brady scored two from play in a tight game, remember.
Gunner for Keating is fair enough, I think Keating has a big future but not as a back.
Pearson and Jelly don't play well together, there is no chance of the GP starting in my opinion, unless Jelly or Martin Reilly are injured.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: trim blue on June 18, 2009, 10:43:22 AM
Quote from: cavan4ever on June 18, 2009, 08:51:25 AM
Quote from: trim blue on June 17, 2009, 11:14:09 PM
Bang on Maniac, while there is little in it Cavan will still be favourites and we are on a hiding to nothing, anything other than a convincing performance and a sizeable win and we will get little credit, psychologically that leaves Carr and the players a lot to deal with but I am more sure he will get their heads right than anytime since Eamon Coleman. If we were playing Donegal there would be a better chance of us making a significant step up in performance.

I think that is bullshit, a one point win will do well for me anyway.  Antrim and Cavan are two division 3 teams now and its along time since Cavan have had a sizeable win again anyone.



At the end of my post I said that it would be Cavan by 2 so I don't expect us to win handy and would settle for any sort of win.  We got a lot of credit for beating Fermanagh by a point and as Carr said afterwards this made a statement about Cavan football, irrespective of the fact that they are essentially 2 Div 3 teams we will be down as favourites, if we beat Antrim by a similar score we will not get the same credit and unless we win by a sizeable amount no one will be claiming it makes a statement about Cavan football. This will put more pressure on the players and management than was the case with the last match.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on June 18, 2009, 12:29:15 PM
Do I care if we don't get credit for beating Antrim? 

An Ulster final place will alleviate any gripes I'd have about not getting credit!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: trim blue on June 18, 2009, 01:12:57 PM
Quote from: Denn Forever on June 18, 2009, 12:29:15 PM
Do I care if we don't get credit for beating Antrim? 

An Ulster final place will alleviate any gripes I'd have about not getting credit!

The point is knowing you will get no credit for beating a team makes it harder to beat them in the first place and its this pressure on the team I'm talking about
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on June 18, 2009, 01:33:45 PM
Quote from: Drung on June 18, 2009, 09:42:35 AM
QuoteGunner for Keating
Lyng for Brady
Cahill for Brides
would make the team far stronger,

I believe Lyng is struggling to be fit for Saturday week though.
Could be Pierson coming in at corner forward and Martin Reily moving out to the wing

I think it would be extremely harsh on Brides to be dropped, he didn't put a foot wrong against Fermanagh, apart from a bit of a lapse for the goal which Reilly probably should have kept out.
Also, I think Lyng is trading off his name. When was the last time he played better for Cavan than what Sean Brady showed against Fermanagh? Think about it. Brady scored two from play in a tight game, remember.
Gunner for Keating is fair enough, I think Keating has a big future but not as a back.
Pearson and Jelly don't play well together, there is no chance of the GP starting in my opinion, unless Jelly or Martin Reilly are injured.
Although I agree with your general point about Lyng the fact that Sean Brady scored two points from play shows how misleading statistics can be. I would query if Sean Brady touched the ball in the second half at all. He was anonymous apart from his score(s) (did he definitely get two?). It's not unexpected as he hardly kicked a ball all year for the county. All being well I'd guess that Gunner might come in for Keating at CHB with the latter pushing up to the half-forward line in place of Sean Brady. The other factor to consider is that the likes of Pierson (although slightly injured) and Sean Brady will have benefited from a full hour of club championship last week and both looked quite sharp which will have brought them along.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on June 18, 2009, 01:36:32 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on June 17, 2009, 11:19:35 PM
Then played Tyrone off the park for the first 50 Minutes of the final before losing in the end by 2 points.
id take something similar this year.

Jasus I remember it well. Jayo's goal had Tyrone on the ropes right before half time, no Cavan fan wanted to hear the whistle for the interval that day. Tyrone fans gone very quiet around that point in the game alright! I'm amazed how few intercounty forwards will keep the ball on the deck with less power and more precision when shooting for goals like Jayo has always done, his shots to goals ratio is so high as a result. I despair when lads lash it at head height, always gives the goalie too much of a chance.

Forde was immense at centre half that year too, best in Ulster, but there was a sense of inevitability about the result for me, same as against Armagh a few years later. These were great performances to a point but there's always a deep-down willingness in the Cavan footballer to accept the moral victory I think, why else would we have so many of them? It's this psychological brittleness that worries me about Antrim but I have faith that Tommy can get the lads' heads right.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on June 18, 2009, 02:01:05 PM
Quote from: cavanmaniac on June 18, 2009, 01:36:32 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on June 17, 2009, 11:19:35 PM
Then played Tyrone off the park for the first 50 Minutes of the final before losing in the end by 2 points.
id take something similar this year.

Jasus I remember it well. Jayo's goal had Tyrone on the ropes right before half time, no Cavan fan wanted to hear the whistle for the interval that day. Tyrone fans gone very quiet around that point in the game alright! I'm amazed how few intercounty forwards will keep the ball on the deck with less power and more precision when shooting for goals like Jayo has always done, his shots to goals ratio is so high as a result. I despair when lads lash it at head height, always gives the goalie too much of a chance.

Forde was immense at centre half that year too, best in Ulster, but there was a sense of inevitability about the result for me, same as against Armagh a few years later. These were great performances to a point but there's always a deep-down willingness in the Cavan footballer to accept the moral victory I think, why else would we have so many of them? It's this psychological brittleness that worries me about Antrim but I have faith that Tommy can get the lads' heads right.

I f i remember correctlforde was marking stephen o neill that day at ctr back and did well first half. O neill then went into corner forward and the decision was taken to send Forde in after him and O Neill ran riot on him - game over.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: trim blue on June 18, 2009, 02:12:32 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on June 18, 2009, 02:01:05 PM
Quote from: cavanmaniac on June 18, 2009, 01:36:32 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on June 17, 2009, 11:19:35 PM
Then played Tyrone off the park for the first 50 Minutes of the final before losing in the end by 2 points.
id take something similar this year.

Jasus I remember it well. Jayo's goal had Tyrone on the ropes right before half time, no Cavan fan wanted to hear the whistle for the interval that day. Tyrone fans gone very quiet around that point in the game alright! I'm amazed how few intercounty forwards will keep the ball on the deck with less power and more precision when shooting for goals like Jayo has always done, his shots to goals ratio is so high as a result. I despair when lads lash it at head height, always gives the goalie too much of a chance.

Forde was immense at centre half that year too, best in Ulster, but there was a sense of inevitability about the result for me, same as against Armagh a few years later. These were great performances to a point but there's always a deep-down willingness in the Cavan footballer to accept the moral victory I think, why else would we have so many of them? It's this psychological brittleness that worries me about Antrim but I have faith that Tommy can get the lads' heads right.

I f i remember correctlforde was marking stephen o neill that day at ctr back and did well first half. O neill then went into corner forward and the decision was taken to send Forde in after him and O Neill ran riot on him - game over.

That was it, Val Andrews was on telly recently and mentioned that tactical decision as being the turning point (pity it took him 8 years to realise that!) Forde's goal against Derry the following week in the qualifiers was one of the best Cavan goals I ever saw too, albeit to no avail ultimately.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on June 18, 2009, 03:43:12 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on June 18, 2009, 02:01:05 PM
I f i remember correctlforde was marking stephen o neill that day at ctr back and did well first half. O neill then went into corner forward and the decision was taken to send Forde in after him and O Neill ran riot on him - game over.

Jesus yes, that's right, I'd completely forgotten. Rose-tinted memories and all that.

As for the best goal I've seen Cavan score, it would have to be Larry Reilly's v Donegal in the qualifiers in 2005. Such a shame the cameras weren't there to record it, but the boy Larry collected in space, bolted a few yards closer to goal and unleashed a rocket that somehow travelled from the 14 yard line or so without rising half a foot off the ground. He was unmarked and could have carried closer to goal but obviously just said "f**k it" and let fly from where he was. It nearly ripped the net from its rigging.

My all-time favourite Larry memory.

A close second would be Forde's v Meath in the U21 semi-final in 1996. It might trail behind Larry's in pure technical excellence, but for the sheer sicken-the-stonethrowers factor, it'll never be topped.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on June 18, 2009, 04:13:23 PM
Quote from: cavanmaniac on June 18, 2009, 03:43:12 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on June 18, 2009, 02:01:05 PM
I f i remember correctlforde was marking stephen o neill that day at ctr back and did well first half. O neill then went into corner forward and the decision was taken to send Forde in after him and O Neill ran riot on him - game over.

Jesus yes, that's right, I'd completely forgotten. Rose-tinted memories and all that.

As for the best goal I've seen Cavan score, it would have to be Larry Reilly's v Donegal in the qualifiers in 2005. Such a shame the cameras weren't there to record it, but the boy Larry collected in space, bolted a few yards closer to goal and unleashed a rocket that somehow travelled from the 14 yard line or so without rising half a foot off the ground. He was unmarked and could have carried closer to goal but obviously just said "f**k it" and let fly from where he was. It nearly ripped the net from its rigging.

My all-time favourite Larry memory.

A close second would be Forde's v Meath in the U21 semi-final in 1996. It might trail behind Larry's in pure technical excellence, but for the sheer sicken-the-stonethrowers factor, it'll never be topped.

Fordes goal against Derry in 01 definitely stands out although so does Tohills the same day :(
I don't remember Fordes score against Meath in 96.I was at both games,but I suppose I was only a gassin! Description??
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on June 18, 2009, 04:17:44 PM
Quote from: boojangles on June 18, 2009, 04:13:23 PM
Quote from: cavanmaniac on June 18, 2009, 03:43:12 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on June 18, 2009, 02:01:05 PM
I f i remember correctlforde was marking stephen o neill that day at ctr back and did well first half. O neill then went into corner forward and the decision was taken to send Forde in after him and O Neill ran riot on him - game over.

Jesus yes, that's right, I'd completely forgotten. Rose-tinted memories and all that.

As for the best goal I've seen Cavan score, it would have to be Larry Reilly's v Donegal in the qualifiers in 2005. Such a shame the cameras weren't there to record it, but the boy Larry collected in space, bolted a few yards closer to goal and unleashed a rocket that somehow travelled from the 14 yard line or so without rising half a foot off the ground. He was unmarked and could have carried closer to goal but obviously just said "f**k it" and let fly from where he was. It nearly ripped the net from its rigging.

My all-time favourite Larry memory.

A close second would be Forde's v Meath in the U21 semi-final in 1996. It might trail behind Larry's in pure technical excellence, but for the sheer sicken-the-stonethrowers factor, it'll never be topped.

Fordes goal against Derry in 01 definitely stands out although so does Tohills the same day :(
I don't remember Fordes score against Meath in 96.I was at both games,but I suppose I was only a gassin! Description??

I remember it well. Cavan were 6 points behind at half time and were sent out to score a goal early which was obvious as they were intent on working the ball in. Forde ran on to a pass took a solo and right on the laces from about 20 yards buried it in the top corner. There was also probably the best Cavan fight that day too when all 30 players on the pitch landed in a big heap boxing each other after some meath tr**p (as we called them back then!) kicked the ball into peter reillys head when he lay injured on the ground. The fight ended when Larry ran from one end of the field to the other, jumped kung fu style at the mass of fighting bodies and then sailed over the whole lot of them without making contact. Everyone stopped fighting and started laughing then :D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on June 18, 2009, 05:31:32 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on June 18, 2009, 04:17:44 PM
I remember it well. Cavan were 6 points behind at half time and were sent out to score a goal early which was obvious as they were intent on working the ball in. Forde ran on to a pass took a solo and right on the laces from about 20 yards buried it in the top corner. There was also probably the best Cavan fight that day too when all 30 players on the pitch landed in a big heap boxing each other after some meath tr**p (as we called them back then!) kicked the ball into peter reillys head when he lay injured on the ground. The fight ended when Larry ran from one end of the field to the other, jumped kung f* style at the mass of fighting bodies and then sailed over the whole lot of them without making contact. Everyone stopped fighting and started laughing then :D

Classic stuff. And the ref adding on an eternity of injury time before Roy Brennan slotted the free to take it to a replay...or did Forde's goal come in the replay itself? You've a better memory than me I must say, it if wasn't for me name I'd forget where I was from sometimes.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4sam on June 18, 2009, 09:43:37 PM
Quote from: Lawrence of Knockbride on June 18, 2009, 01:33:45 PM
Quote from: Drung on June 18, 2009, 09:42:35 AM
QuoteGunner for Keating
Lyng for Brady
Cahill for Brides
would make the team far stronger,

I believe Lyng is struggling to be fit for Saturday week though.
Could be Pierson coming in at corner forward and Martin Reily moving out to the wing

I think it would be extremely harsh on Brides to be dropped, he didn't put a foot wrong against Fermanagh, apart from a bit of a lapse for the goal which Reilly probably should have kept out.
Also, I think Lyng is trading off his name. When was the last time he played better for Cavan than what Sean Brady showed against Fermanagh? Think about it. Brady scored two from play in a tight game, remember.
Gunner for Keating is fair enough, I think Keating has a big future but not as a back.
Pearson and Jelly don't play well together, there is no chance of the GP starting in my opinion, unless Jelly or Martin Reilly are injured.
Although I agree with your general point about Lyng the fact that Sean Brady scored two points from play shows how misleading statistics can be. I would query if Sean Brady touched the ball in the second half at all. He was anonymous apart from his score(s) (did he definitely get two?). It's not unexpected as he hardly kicked a ball all year for the county. All being well I'd guess that Gunner might come in for Keating at CHB with the latter pushing up to the half-forward line in place of Sean Brady. The other factor to consider is that the likes of Pierson (although slightly injured) and Sean Brady will have benefited from a full hour of club championship last week and both looked quite sharp which will have brought them along.

Sean scored 2 very good points from play and had 1 taken off him in the first couple of minutes. He caught 2 kickouts clean and put in some decent ball to the full forward a couple of which i think resulted in frees that were converted, overall not a bad return I think. I don't think that sort of performance warrants being dropped?? If someone comes in they should have to earn their place. Perhaps Gunner in but I think we should stick with the lads that got us the win against Fermanagh.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on June 18, 2009, 10:14:52 PM
I really doubt Carr will change things too much to start with. I think Keating off and Gunner on and that will be it. Maybe we are being harsh on brady, he does add some more size and ball winning ability for Miller to aim his kicks at - Lyng wouldn't give you that. What it does give us with Lyng, Larry, Jason, Mulvey (who destroyed Antrim last yr when he came on), Gunner/Keating and pierson is a very strong bench to keep the starting 15 on their toes. Springing Larry in the last 20 minutes when the games breaks up a bit would really put pressure on Antrim. Have to say I am optimistic we can win this and thats not arrogance, I just believe we have slightly better footballers and for a change a manager that can get them in the right frame of mind.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: trim blue on June 18, 2009, 11:05:25 PM
All things being equal Brady would replace Keating but he hasn't played in a few weeks and has a bit of an injury too, add in the fact that we won the last day and Carr said afterwards that he only made changes because of tiredness so I can see him starting the same 15 with the changes being made a bit earlier this time. Have to say I like Carr's air of calm authority which bodes well for our mental approach to the game.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: the salmon of knowledge on June 19, 2009, 05:16:30 PM
i think everyone is being hard on keating... i felt his preformance warrented another day @ CHB.
And how much exactly has gunner done in that position to suggest he is that much better?
the team in my opinion should be:
miller
brides, sheridan, fannin
gunner, keating, mc cuetheon
galligan, walsh
mackey, cullivan, flanagan
johnstone, givney, reilly.

apart from his frees the last day martin reilly would not make the team.
i felt cullivan could have been used further out the field the last day as his fielding and option taking are generally good, and it makes the diamond very physically strong.
givney on the square, as if things are not working for him or walsh, they can switch without using a sub needlessly.

just my opinion
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on June 19, 2009, 05:55:51 PM
Quote from: the salmon of knowledge on June 19, 2009, 05:16:30 PM
i think everyone is being hard on keating... i felt his preformance warrented another day @ CHB.
And how much exactly has gunner done in that position to suggest he is that much better?
the team in my opinion should be:
miller
brides, sheridan, fannin
gunner, keating, mc cuetheon
galligan, walsh
mackey, cullivan, flanagan
johnstone, givney, reilly.

apart from his frees the last day martin reilly would not make the team.
i felt cullivan could have been used further out the field the last day as his fielding and option taking are generally good, and it makes the diamond very physically strong.
givney on the square, as if things are not working for him or walsh, they can switch without using a sub needlessly.

just my opinion
Fair enough SOK but if you questin what the gunner has done to warrant a place the same could be asked of Givney.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on June 19, 2009, 06:09:03 PM
Paul the Gunner has been playing for Cavan since 2002 and is IMO our most versatile player.I seen him against Roscommon and he was outstanding.No harm to Keating but he had nobody to mark against Fermanagh.We have to go with experience.Maybe Keating in for Sean Brady at HF. I like Givney and think he will make it,but I dunno about starting him.TC obviously likes him at Midfield tho so doubt we will see him at FF,altho IMO thats where Id play him.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on June 19, 2009, 07:15:52 PM
I'd personally just put Brady straight in for Brides or Sean Brady. He is versatile and well capable of playing both positions. If Keating wasn't working out at CB, changes can be made without substitutions. Him and Flanagan could swap for example. I think we will need Gunner's athletiscism in the full-back line, Antrim are lively there. Also Podge was excellent the last day, until he began to tire!

I think Carr will not want to change things about unneccesarily and I don't think Givney will start either, has not done enough to deserve it!

Id go with

Miller
Hannon Sheridan Gunner

McCutcheon Keating Podge

Walsh Gallo

Mackey Flanagan Martin Reilly
Johnston Cullivan Pierson
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on June 19, 2009, 09:00:10 PM
Quote from: put-it-up on June 19, 2009, 07:15:52 PM
I'd personally just put Brady straight in for Brides or Sean Brady. He is versatile and well capable of playing both positions. If Keating wasn't working out at CB, changes can be made without substitutions. Him and Flanagan could swap for example. I think we will need Gunner's athletiscism in the full-back line, Antrim are lively there. Also Podge was excellent the last day, until he began to tire!

I think Carr will not want to change things about unneccesarily and I don't think Givney will start either, has not done enough to deserve it!

Id go with

Miller
Hannon Sheridan Gunner

McCutcheon Keating Podge

Walsh Gallo

Mackey Flanagan Martin Reilly
Johnston Cullivan Pierson

The only time I saw Brady in the FB line he was marking Benny Coulter and got destroyed. On what basis would you put him at corner back.  Thats madness.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on June 20, 2009, 12:18:42 AM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on June 19, 2009, 09:00:10 PM
Quote from: put-it-up on June 19, 2009, 07:15:52 PM
I'd personally just put Brady straight in for Brides or Sean Brady. He is versatile and well capable of playing both positions. If Keating wasn't working out at CB, changes can be made without substitutions. Him and Flanagan could swap for example. I think we will need Gunner's athletiscism in the full-back line, Antrim are lively there. Also Podge was excellent the last day, until he began to tire!

I think Carr will not want to change things about unneccesarily and I don't think Givney will start either, has not done enough to deserve it!

Id go with

Miller
Hannon Sheridan Gunner

McCutcheon Keating Podge

Walsh Gallo

Mackey Flanagan Martin Reilly
Johnston Cullivan Pierson

The only time I saw Brady in the FB line he was marking Benny Coulter and got destroyed. On what basis would you put him at corner back.  Thats madness.

I agree
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on June 20, 2009, 12:33:13 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on June 19, 2009, 09:00:10 PM
Quote from: put-it-up on June 19, 2009, 07:15:52 PM
I'd personally just put Brady straight in for Brides or Sean Brady. He is versatile and well capable of playing both positions. If Keating wasn't working out at CB, changes can be made without substitutions. Him and Flanagan could swap for example. I think we will need Gunner's athletiscism in the full-back line, Antrim are lively there. Also Podge was excellent the last day, until he began to tire!

I think Carr will not want to change things about unneccesarily and I don't think Givney will start either, has not done enough to deserve it!

Id go with

Miller
Hannon Sheridan Gunner

McCutcheon Keating Podge

Walsh Gallo

Mackey Flanagan Martin Reilly
Johnston Cullivan Pierson

The only time I saw Brady in the FB line he was marking Benny Coulter and got destroyed. On what basis would you put him at corner back.  Thats madness.

I remember Gunner starting corner back against Down in 2004,marking Daniel Hughes,played very well. I wouldnt judge him on his performance against Benny tbh.The man can play anywhere IMO but I wouldnt waste him in the corner.Probably sound like an LP at this stage but I cant understand why they aren't playing Fannin,Id put him in for Brides.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Hollow Man on June 20, 2009, 01:14:43 PM
You are completely wrong again Bojangles. Daniel Hughes was brilliant that day, he gave the Gunner a roasting. He only scored a point from play but he was class.
So much so that Gunner was actually dropped for the next round, when the teams were:

Armagh: P Hearty, E McNulty, F Bellew, A Mallon, K Hughes, A O'Rourke, A McCann, J Toal, P McGrane, P McKeever (0-1), T McEntee, O McConville (0-5), S McDonnell (0-2), R Clarke (0-1), M O'Rourke. Substitutes: B Mallon (0-2), D Marsden (0-1), K McElvanna (0-1).

Cavan: E Elliott; C Collins, D Rabbit, R Donahoe; A Forde, A Gaynor, K Crotty; P McKenna, T Crowe, L Reilly (0-3); M Lyng (0-4), M McKeever, J O'Reilly; P Reilly, G Pearson (0-3). Substitute: D McCabe (0-1).

Gunner is one of the best three or four footballers in the county, but not at corner-back.
Also, from the other thread where we were debating about Pierson and Jelly playing together, I just noticed that both started together in that match against Down in 04, BOTH were taken off at half-time! All the talk about how Coleman had Pierson playing like a genius is exaggerated - GP scored 0-3 in two championship matches that summer, hardly Paddy Bradley/Tom Freeman etc scoring. How you think GP would make the Tyrone/Derry/Monaghan teams is beyond me.
I mean, the much-maligned Larry scored the same as him against Armagh but nobody remembers that.
Pierson is way over-rated.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on June 20, 2009, 05:04:33 PM
Quote from: Hollow Man on June 20, 2009, 01:14:43 PM
You are completely wrong again Bojangles. Daniel Hughes was brilliant that day, he gave the Gunner a roasting. He only scored a point from play but he was class.
So much so that Gunner was actually dropped for the next round, when the teams were:

Armagh: P Hearty, E McNulty, F Bellew, A Mallon, K Hughes, A O'Rourke, A McCann, J Toal, P McGrane, P McKeever (0-1), T McEntee, O McConville (0-5), S McDonnell (0-2), R Clarke (0-1), M O'Rourke. Substitutes: B Mallon (0-2), D Marsden (0-1), K McElvanna (0-1).

Cavan: E Elliott; C Collins, D Rabbit, R Donahoe; A Forde, A Gaynor, K Crotty; P McKenna, T Crowe, L Reilly (0-3); M Lyng (0-4), M McKeever, J O'Reilly; P Reilly, G Pearson (0-3). Substitute: D McCabe (0-1).

Gunner is one of the best three or four footballers in the county, but not at corner-back.
Also, from the other thread where we were debating about Pierson and Jelly playing together, I just noticed that both started together in that match against Down in 04, BOTH were taken off at half-time! All the talk about how Coleman had Pierson playing like a genius is exaggerated - GP scored 0-3 in two championship matches that summer, hardly Paddy Bradley/Tom Freeman etc scoring. How you think GP would make the Tyrone/Derry/Monaghan teams is beyond me.
I mean, the much-maligned Larry scored the same as him against Armagh but nobody remembers that.
Pierson is way over-rated.

That is bull-shit Hollow Man, Pierson is NOT over-rated. He just has not fulfilled his potential. The man can be a genius on the pitch if he sets his mind to it. Imagine if him and Jelly clicked on a big-day. "Put the flag up"

On the point about Brady perhaps I was abit hasty. I think I was over-desperate to get him on the field, and get Brides off it :) I'vv slept on it and think he should go into the half-forward line in place of Sean. And in his defence myles, Benny has destroyed most players that marked him! He is such a class act.

The corner-back slot is a difficult one...I reckon Carr will give Brides another run. Dublin clubs rate him very highly, unfortunately I'm noth is biggest fan!

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: the salmon of knowledge on June 20, 2009, 05:14:47 PM
Quote from: Lawrence of Knockbride on June 19, 2009, 05:55:51 PM
Quote from: the salmon of knowledge on June 19, 2009, 05:16:30 PM
i think everyone is being hard on keating... i felt his preformance warrented another day @ CHB.
And how much exactly has gunner done in that position to suggest he is that much better?
the team in my opinion should be:
miller
brides, sheridan, fannin
gunner, keating, mc cuetheon
galligan, walsh
mackey, cullivan, flanagan
johnstone, givney, reilly.

apart from his frees the last day martin reilly would not make the team.
i felt cullivan could have been used further out the field the last day as his fielding and option taking are generally good, and it makes the diamond very physically strong.
givney on the square, as if things are not working for him or walsh, they can switch without using a sub needlessly.

just my opinion
Fair enough SOK but if you questin what the gunner has done to warrant a place the same could be asked of Givney.

fair point alright...
but there is a difference in what both players bring to the team is really my point. we seem to have a few fast comfortable on the ball half back types and keating played well enough to start in the 6 shirt. he also was the cucus best player against gowna last weekend from that position...
in givneys case, he is something that the might have lacked the last day, for all the mayhem cullivan caused, he made his runs early, coupled with some slow ball in meant when he won the ball he was outside the real danger zone, ie. inside the 21.

i just like to see the FF playing the square with his HFs running off him.
we seem to be unable to do this, because our CFs have not been instructed to make decoy runs where by they make space but have no hope of getting the ball
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Hollow Man on June 20, 2009, 09:26:25 PM
QuoteThat is bull-shit Hollow Man, Pierson is NOT over-rated. He just has not fulfilled his potential

Hang on a second so we can get things straight put-it-up...
Boojangles said that Pierson would make any team in Ulster. I said that he wouldn't (can't make the Cavan team FFS!) and the comments from genuine supporters like Boojangles to that effect show that he is over-rated.
You now accuse me of talking bullshit, but in the next line state that Pierson hasn't fulfilled his potential.
So which is it? Would he make any team in Ulster?
If your answer is no, then Boojangles has over-rated him as I said. If your answer is yes, well God help the rest of the country when he finally fulfils that potential!
This Pierson debate is a lot of what's wrong in Cavan - the man has only played a handful of good games for us. 2004 is commonly regarded as his best year (a lot of posters here have mentioned how Coleman had Pierson firing on all cylinders) but as I have pointed out, he was taken off at half-time in the first round that year and scored 0-3 (as opposed to a huge tally or 1-5 or 1-6) against Armagh. A good performance, but not enough to live off for five years.
Good forwards are judged by their performances in the heat of battle in the championship. Are you saying that Pierson has done anything in the last five years to show that he would make any side in Ulster?
He's usually either injured or disinterested looking.
He's been in or around the Cavan team since '02 I think (debut v Donegal, scored 0-9 from frees that day alright) but has never done anything to merit the reputation he has among supporters in my opinion. I'm sure he's a sound fella, but he's not a top inter-county player and if anyone from one of the top counties saw Boojangles' comment they'd be laughing!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on June 20, 2009, 10:10:24 PM
You are correct to a point Hollowman but I think Pierson has the potential to be a great player if a)He can get fit and stay fit and b)If he starts to develop some hunger for the game. Big If's but he has serious skill to be unlocked.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on June 21, 2009, 09:13:45 AM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on June 20, 2009, 10:10:24 PM
You are correct to a point Hollowman but I think Pierson has the potential to be a great player if a)He can get fit and stay fit and b)If he starts to develop some hunger for the game. Big If's but he has serious skill to be unlocked.

Id be a Pierson fan myself the year he got injured he nearly beat Meath on his own up in Navan but because of injury and as myles said earlier about sitting around having the few beers when he cant play means he hasnt being consistent.

I would be guilty of talking him up myself as other do here but that is because we know what he can do.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on June 21, 2009, 07:29:11 PM
Quote from: Hollow Man on June 20, 2009, 09:26:25 PM
QuoteThat is bull-shit Hollow Man, Pierson is NOT over-rated. He just has not fulfilled his potential

Hang on a second so we can get things straight put-it-up...
Boojangles said that Pierson would make any team in Ulster. I said that he wouldn't (can't make the Cavan team FFS!) and the comments from genuine supporters like Boojangles to that effect show that he is over-rated.
You now accuse me of talking bullshit, but in the next line state that Pierson hasn't fulfilled his potential.
So which is it? Would he make any team in Ulster?
If your answer is no, then Boojangles has over-rated him as I said. If your answer is yes, well God help the rest of the country when he finally fulfils that potential!
This Pierson debate is a lot of what's wrong in Cavan - the man has only played a handful of good games for us. 2004 is commonly regarded as his best year (a lot of posters here have mentioned how Coleman had Pierson firing on all cylinders) but as I have pointed out, he was taken off at half-time in the first round that year and scored 0-3 (as opposed to a huge tally or 1-5 or 1-6) against Armagh. A good performance, but not enough to live off for five years.
Good forwards are judged by their performances in the heat of battle in the championship. Are you saying that Pierson has done anything in the last five years to show that he would make any side in Ulster?
He's usually either injured or disinterested looking.
He's been in or around the Cavan team since '02 I think (debut v Donegal, scored 0-9 from frees that day alright) but has never done anything to merit the reputation he has among supporters in my opinion. I'm sure he's a sound fella, but he's not a top inter-county player and if anyone from one of the top counties saw Boojangles' comment they'd be laughing!

My god Hollow-man, you really took my comment to heart didn't you? I didn't mean to upset you or make you feel the need to write such a lengthy reply. I suppose I do understand where you are coming from but I just don't understand how you can say the man is overrated. I didn't actually see the comment about Pierson getting playing with any other county and on his current form the answer is NO.

The reason some of us speak so highly of him, is we know what he is capable of - if the fire is burning in his belly. Since when does having unfulfilled potential mean you are over-rated? I admit he is no spring chicken at this stage, but I think there is a big performance going to come from him in a blue jersey soon. More than likely when he is sprung from the bench.

And I wouldn't say he is disinterested. His body language is lethargic, I give you that, but there are plenty of players that give off that impression. Conor Smith from Cuchulainns springs to mind. Were you not thaught to not judge a book by it's cover? 
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on June 21, 2009, 09:34:26 PM
Aye was over there for a while with a scatter of young ones. great novel idea for them to run. hope they raised a few pound
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on June 22, 2009, 10:47:13 AM
Didn't hear anything but if they broke it, well done to all concerned esp. Nicholas Walsh.  Hopefully next aturday will be a red letter day (or whatever the phrase is).
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on June 22, 2009, 12:29:29 PM
Quote from: Hollow Man on June 20, 2009, 01:14:43 PM
You are completely wrong again Bojangles. Daniel Hughes was brilliant that day, he gave the Gunner a roasting. He only scored a point from play but he was class.
So much so that Gunner was actually dropped for the next round, when the teams were:

Armagh: P Hearty, E McNulty, F Bellew, A Mallon, K Hughes, A O'Rourke, A McCann, J Toal, P McGrane, P McKeever (0-1), T McEntee, O McConville (0-5), S McDonnell (0-2), R Clarke (0-1), M O'Rourke. Substitutes: B Mallon (0-2), D Marsden (0-1), K McElvanna (0-1).

Cavan: E Elliott; C Collins, D Rabbit, R Donahoe; A Forde, A Gaynor, K Crotty; P McKenna, T Crowe, L Reilly (0-3); M Lyng (0-4), M McKeever, J O'Reilly; P Reilly, G Pearson (0-3). Substitute: D McCabe (0-1).

Gunner is one of the best three or four footballers in the county, but not at corner-back.
Also, from the other thread where we were debating about Pierson and Jelly playing together, I just noticed that both started together in that match against Down in 04, BOTH were taken off at half-time! All the talk about how Coleman had Pierson playing like a genius is exaggerated - GP scored 0-3 in two championship matches that summer, hardly Paddy Bradley/Tom Freeman etc scoring. How you think GP would make the Tyrone/Derry/Monaghan teams is beyond me.
I mean, the much-maligned Larry scored the same as him against Armagh but nobody remembers that.
Pierson is way over-rated.

Just steady on there Hollow before you jump to conclusions.I said I remember Paul Brady playing very well against Down at corner back marking Daniel Hughes in 2004.Paul Brady started the first Down game in 2004 at corner back in Casement marking Daniel Hughes,he played very well that day and Hughes only scored a point. He started the replay and was replaced by Rory Donohue in the 2nd half. So how am I completely wrong?? If you wanna pick holes through everything I write,make sure you have your facts right.
On the Pierson debate-I suppose we will just have to wait and see.Time is running out for him to prove to Ulster how good I know he is but if he gets an injury free run we just might see it. Don't forget that Keoghan had a serious dislike of Pierson which probably didnt help him for the past few years.

Was up in Breifne park Saturday morning,there was a great crowd and it was a credit to all the organisers and all the clubs in the county.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Hollow Man on June 22, 2009, 04:00:27 PM
QuoteI said I remember Paul Brady playing very well against Down at corner back marking Daniel Hughes in 2004.Paul Brady started the first Down game in 2004 at corner back in Casement marking Daniel Hughes,he played very well that day and Hughes only scored a point. He started the replay and was replaced by Rory Donohue in the 2nd half. So how am I completely wrong?? If you wanna pick holes through everything I write,make sure you have your facts right.

::) How are you completely wrong? Because you're talking through your arse Boojangles. Daniel Hughes scored 0-4 FROM PLAY on Paul Brady the first day, not a point as you seem to think.
Check out the report below if you don't believe me.
Just to re-iterate, you are COMPLETELY wrong this time. Again.


Monday May 17 2004

DOWN 1-13
CAVAN 1-13
CAVAN football has harboured Casement Park with the same enthusiasm in recent years as a pilot does for the Bermuda Triangle. Too often it has disappeared without trace on a Sunday afternoon in west Belfast. But there was respite for the pilgrims yesterday, a glint of hope that brightens the horizon.
A draw with Down was better than anything they had experienced on their previous three visits to the city venue. Moreover, it should have been a first Ulster championship win in three years for the Breffni men but for John Clarke's late intervention with an equalising point three minutes into injury time.

Twice Cavan, playing with an extra man for the second half after Michael Higgins was red carded for a double booking after 33 minutes, failed to defend a one-point lead after an inevitable Jason O'Reilly goal had turned their fortunes dramatically 11 minutes from time. In soaring temperatures they should have done better.

Down manager Paddy O'Rourke put it down to his side's character, his counterpart Eamonn Coleman felt their inexperience with the extra man cost them.

"If it was Johnny McGurk or Henry Downey there they would have killed the other team by coming at them," quipped Coleman in reference to his old Derry warhorses.

Both managers retired content with the result and another chance to redress on Sunday week in Kingspan Breffni Park.

However inexperienced Cavan were they must have been delighted with many of their new recruits. Michael Lyng played in the curtain raiser against Antrim 12 months earlier but yesterday he was a leader beyond his years, showing creative touches that gave sound reason for why such a young man was selected at centre-forward.

They had problems at midfield and the direction of Eoghan Elliott's kick-outs while full-back Darren Rabbit had few comfortable moments on Benny Coulter.

But when the ball went in fast to the Cavan forwards they looked dangerous.

Gerald Pearson showed why he carries such a high rating, O'Reilly displayed trademark opportunism while Mark McKeever and Larry Reilly worked tirelessly with Lyng to help reduce a four-point deficit.

Down established a decent foothold early on at midfield where Dan Gordon fielded impressively and Greg McCartan made his presence felt. Dermot McCabe's absence for Cavan through injury hit hard.

Gordon was named at full-forward but a pre-match switch with Benny Coulter worked effectively as Coulter did damage in the first half.

Cavan were 0-4 to 0-2 ahead thanks to some impressive movement in attack but their insistence on short passing out of trouble was high risk and costly.

Once Ward placed Coulter on 24 minutes with a well-directed pass and Rabbit tumbled giving chase, the gap that Down required opened and the Mayobridge man made no mistake.

Two minutes later, O'Reilly might have goaled when he turned Alan Molloy but Michael McVeigh advanced quickly and the danger was cleared.

They continued to trade points up to the break but Down retained their two point advantage (1-7 to 0-8 at half-time) even after Higgins' sending-off for a high challenge on Sean Johnson.

If Coulter was the star of the first half for Down, young Daniel Hughes picked up the baton after the break.

Four shots yielded four points for the Saval man and three in a row, interrupted by a Lyng free, had Cavan in disarray in the third quarter. But then the well dried up for Down as McCartan tired and Gordon began to feel the effects of an earlier knock.

Coleman urged his extra man - it alternated between Eamonn Reilly and Mark McKeever - to get forward, but it was a goal they needed to transform them and it came from an inevitable source.

O'Reilly has been banging them in throughout his career for Cavan and when the chance came on 59 minutes he didn't spurn it, availing of the industry of Anthony Forde and McKeever.

That left Cavan trailing by just one point, 1-10 to 1-11, but soon they were one clear as Lyng rolled his sleeves up. From that point Cavan should have won.

Down substitute Aidan O'Prey flicked over a Doyle free to equalise, Pearson slotted a third point after an intelligently-placed Lyng free but Down's patience was their virtue and O'Rourke's declaration of happiness afterwards when he saw Clarke in possession with time almost elapsed was well-justified.

SCORERS - Down: B Coulter 1-2, D Hughes 0-4, L Doyle 0-4 (4f), R Sexton, J Clarke, A O'Prey 0-1 each. Cavan: M Lyng 0-6 (4f), J O'Reilly 1-2, G Pearson 0-3, L Reilly, S Johnson 0-1 each.

DOWN - M McVeigh; M Higgins, A Molloy, A Scullion; J Clarke, M Cole, S Farrell; D Gordon, G McCartan; L Doyle, S Ward, R Sexton; E McCartan, B Coulter, D Hughes. Subs: J LLavery for Farrell (54), C McCrickard for G McCartan (64), B Grant for Sexton (66), A O'Prey for E McCartan (69).

CAVAN - E Elliott; E Reilly, D Rabbit, P Brady; A Forde, T Crowe, A Gaynor; P McKenna, C Collins; L Reilly, M Lyng, M McKeever; G Pearson, J O'Reilly, S Johnson. Subs: K Crotty for Collins (51), P Reilly for Johnson (61).

REF - D Coldrick (Meath).

Attendance: 19,417.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Hollow Man on June 22, 2009, 04:05:11 PM
By the way, Paul Brady should definitely be on the team as I've said, he's a class act at half-back or half-forward. Just thougth I'd pull Boojangles up on some obvious shite-talking. Now can we get along please? ;)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on June 22, 2009, 07:38:13 PM
f**k sake,I have been shown up as a true shite talker.I bow down to your greater memory and knowledge and promise to never talk shite again.We will all have to watch what we write now for fear of the wrath of Hollow Man.No more talking through our arses on here and I may get that memory of mine serviced too.

Now would you mind telling me where you got that match report from? I was looking the other day for an old match report and couldnt get anything, or maybe you wanna keep it to yourself and Il carry on talking through my arse ;) ;)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Hollow Man on June 22, 2009, 10:30:02 PM
In fairness, you were badly caught out, especialy when you came back with the whole 'in future, check your facts' thing when you were TOTALLY wrong.

Got it on www.independent.ie.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on June 22, 2009, 10:46:48 PM
Quote from: Hollow Man on June 22, 2009, 10:30:02 PM
In fairness, you were badly caught out, especialy when you came back with the whole 'in future, check your facts' thing when you were TOTALLY wrong.

Got it on www.independent.ie.

TOTALLY wrong-dunno about that.I was wrong with what Hughes scored,I still say Paul the Gunner played well that day.Or have you Paul the Gunners stats done out somewhere to prove me even further wrong?? ;)
Anyway you'v set a precedent now Hollow,you better be prepared to back everything up from now on. :-*
If theres one thing Boojangles hates-its being proven wrong.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on June 22, 2009, 11:46:49 PM
In fairness to you Hollow man, even if you do think your better than all of us, at least you proved your point!

You really could do with lightening up abit though ;D

Why so serious and confrontational all the time?

Come on pull yourself out of your misery at home and crack us a smile ;D

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Mr. Pain on June 23, 2009, 12:18:28 AM
It seems to Mr. Pain that some people get their thongs in a twist and start talking pure and utter crap in the run-up to a big match. Boojangles, let's get this straight. You say that a corner back who's man scored four points from play had a good game. Is the primary objective of a corner back not to contain his own man's scoring? It seems to the Pain Dawg that if everyone stuck to that, the team would be doing very well. That said, the player in question is excellent further out the field.

Hollow Man, excellent research it must be said but your sex life must be non-existent.

On another note, the Pain Predictor got it wrong against Fermanagh but now has another outcome and it is to the liking of the minions. Cavan to win by two.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on June 23, 2009, 12:25:19 AM
Quote from: Mr. Pain on June 23, 2009, 12:18:28 AM

Hollow Man, excellent research it must be said but your sex life must be non-existent.


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Haha was thinking the same but didn't want to be so harsh :)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Babe Ruth 47 on June 23, 2009, 12:54:10 AM
Jaysus lads, this spot is worse than working in an office full of women.
Back to a shot of serious chat. :D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tierworker blue on June 23, 2009, 01:53:30 AM
Doods, less of the bad vibes...now kiss and make up!
Really looking forward to Saturday...starting to get excited (ooh matron!) already.
I hav'nt wandered the streets of Clones in victory since the great day we beat Meath in '05 (Ah...the memories) ; fingers crossed it'll be another good 'un this weekend!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on June 23, 2009, 11:15:53 AM
Quote from: put-it-up on June 23, 2009, 12:25:19 AM
Quote from: Mr. Pain on June 23, 2009, 12:18:28 AM

Hollow Man, excellent research it must be said but your sex life must be non-existent.


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Haha was thinking the same but didn't want to be so harsh :)

That clears that up then so.I honestly thought that Mr Pain and Hollow Man were one and the same.
Mr Pain no need to get so personal, You mite scare Hollow Man off for another year with talk like that.

Anybody hear any word on how injuries are coming along??
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on June 23, 2009, 11:20:03 AM
All is quiet leading up to this. Cavan post is saying that Cullivan and Mackey i think it said are carrying knocks and that mad eddie has arm in a cast.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on June 23, 2009, 11:58:34 AM
Have you noticed? 


Mr Pain no longer rants!! ;D

Getting rid of Donal has had many strange and wonderful effects
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on June 23, 2009, 07:42:28 PM
Mr Pain is a legend.

Doubt we shall be hearing from Maximus for a few months,after his Derry team shit themselves against Tyrone.  :D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on June 23, 2009, 11:39:36 PM
Well lads the team for the weekend is completely unchanged.

1-15 anyway will line out as they were.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on June 23, 2009, 11:52:15 PM
Quote from: put-it-up on June 23, 2009, 11:39:36 PM
Well lads the team for the weekend is completely unchanged.

1-15 anyway will line out as they were.

Good to see in principle at least. Everyone performed reasonably well the last day and it'll be a confidence boost to that 15 what with the rumours and opinions we and others have put forward over the last fornight.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on June 24, 2009, 12:51:21 AM
Lads I know there has been a lot of hype about Givney, particularly in the local media, but I really haven't been overly impressed with him in the blue jersey!.

I am by no means calling for him to be kicked off the panel or anything, but I would be interested to hear where you think the boy's best position he is.

I'm happy for him to hang around the fringes of the senior squad, play u21 and keep developing his body and his game. He can become a strong strong boy from the looks of things! Still raw though in my opinion, and I just don't think he is quite ready yet to be thrown into a start in the Ulster CHampionship
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on June 24, 2009, 08:40:04 AM
Quote from: put-it-up on June 24, 2009, 12:51:21 AM
Lads I know there has been a lot of hype about Givney, particularly in the local media, but I really haven't been overly impressed with him in the blue jersey!.

I am by no means calling for him to be kicked off the panel or anything, but I would be interested to hear where you think the boy's best position he is.

I'm happy for him to hang around the fringes of the senior squad, play u21 and keep developing his body and his game. He can become a strong strong boy from the looks of things! Still raw though in my opinion, and I just don't think he is quite ready yet to be thrown into a start in the Ulster CHampionship
Agreed.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on June 24, 2009, 09:18:41 AM
Quote from: put-it-up on June 24, 2009, 12:51:21 AM.

I'm happy for him to hang around the fringes of the senior squad, play u21 and keep developing his body and his game. He can become a strong strong boy from the looks of things! Still raw though in my opinion, and I just don't think he is quite ready yet to be thrown into a start in the Ulster CHampionship

That isnt going to happen this year anyway.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on June 24, 2009, 02:16:55 PM
Givney needs to get quicker if hes going to be a force at IC level.
Hes a terrific fielder and good on the ball.
But he does not have the speed at the moment to stay with the likes of Enda McGinley/Sean Kavanagh etc.
A Few winters of heavy weight sessions for the lower body and alot of sprinting and hopefully he will get there.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on June 24, 2009, 09:47:01 PM
I wouldn't dream of starting Givney against Antrim, especially since Cullivan did well at FF last day, but I think he has a future. I seen his cameo at midfield in the league against Down and he did very well. Its in him but he needs some more work to make it at county level.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on June 25, 2009, 12:52:21 AM
The one thing I really like about Givney from what I seen of him is he is very aware of team mates and he isnt afraid to do the simple thing when needed,something I feel Keating could learn from. He is only learning and whether at Full-Forward or Midfield,I definitely feel he has a future if he keeps progressing.In other years I would definitely say a player of his ability should be used but thank god when you can call on players of the ability of Lyng,Larry,Pierson and Jason in the forwards from the bench it looks like he may not be needed-unless at midfield.
As mentioned already by a few,I have a feeling that Larry if given a chance could do damage and give the team a lift if it is geting tight in the 2nd half.
For the first time in a few years I think Cavan may actually travel in numbers,I know alot of people who werent even at the Fermanagh game who are headin for Clones.
What more could ya want-Good weather,Good atmosphere and a place in an Ulster Final -heres hoping.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: jimjim on June 26, 2009, 11:48:21 AM
Any predictions for the Weekend??
Maybe Cavan 14 - 9?? - Hopefully.........
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: the salmon of knowledge on June 26, 2009, 04:35:25 PM
Quote from: jimjim on June 26, 2009, 11:48:21 AM
Any predictions for the Weekend??
Maybe Cavan 14 - 9?? - Hopefully.........

goals a plenty, cavan 2-10
antrim 1-9


fingers crossed
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on June 27, 2009, 10:41:12 AM
Cavan 1-12
Antrim 0-13

He's always good for a goal he is Jayo Jayo He's always good for a goal he is Jayo Jayo
C-o-m-e O-n Y-o-u Boys in Blue Come on you boys in Blue come on you boys Come on you boys in Blue
If you'v won FIVE All-Irelands clap your hands If you'v won FIVE All-Irelands clap your hands
Jellys gonna get ya Jellys gonna get ya
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on June 27, 2009, 11:41:28 AM
Quote from: boojangles on June 27, 2009, 10:41:12 AM
Cavan 1-12
Antrim 0-13

He's always good for a goal he is Jayo Jayo He's always good for a goal he is Jayo Jayo
C-o-m-e O-n Y-o-u Boys in Blue Come on you boys in Blue come on you boys Come on you boys in Blue
If you'v won FIVE All-Irelands clap your hands If you'v won FIVE All-Irelands clap your hands
Jellys gonna get ya Jellys gonna get ya

Ahh the chants... you gotta love them

"I'd rather spend a euro than a pound"
Go home and pay your taxes to the crown" - they love that one!!!
If you've got 39 Ulsters clap your hands, etc etc
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Babe Ruth 47 on June 27, 2009, 11:41:39 AM
We've got 39 Ulster titles ye've got 10.............etc etc etc
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Hollow Man on June 27, 2009, 10:53:15 PM
Chants are embarrassing, we have too much of that British shite coming into our culture, like Irish fellas chanting at the TV in pubs in an English accent.

PS I refuse to talk about the match. Too depressing. PATHETIC.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on June 28, 2009, 12:36:25 AM
I made my late night analysis on the page thread. Dreadful day. :'(
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on June 28, 2009, 01:26:56 AM
Right back to zero after that folks. First time seeing Cavan in the flesh under Carr and dare I say it, we lactually ooked better under Keogan  :o. That's some achievement. Too early to criticise Carr too badly but questions will start to be asked now and something needs to happen to redeem oursleves even slightly in the qualifiers. I wouldn't hold my breath on that one though.

It's hard to know where to begin, but given that fitness is the first building block, let's start there. The humid conditions sapped us and were were yards off Antrim all day. In short, we just didn't do the f**king hard work all year and that's simply unforgivable. The last ten minutes we hadn't anything left - fair play to the lads for trying to the end but I think we can say that there's one county squad who didn't fully earn their grant money this year and can't complain too much about it being scrapped!

Tactically also we were inept, especially in the first half. Our defenders were isolated all half and getting turned inside out and it was clear we needed to flood the area with numbers to shore it up. How in the name of Jesus were we only a point down at the break?  The amount of space and time afforded the Antrim forwards was mind boggling at this level of the game, and the sheer refusal of any Cavan defender to even make a cursory effort at tackling their man - for fucks sake, even an effort at tickling their man - was enough to make you weep. When we did pull bodies back in second half, we tightened up to a small degree but then had absolutely no threat at the other end of the field becase we hadn't the puff to get up and down in support and...

...our use of the ball was absolutely horrendous anyway. Passes too long. Passes too short. Aimless, desperate punts to nobody at all. Men with ample time and space fumbling the ball for no reason. Walsh making a one-man bid to make a season's worth of mistakes in one match. Carrying possession, repeatedly, into thickets of eager and hungry Antrim men, or turning it over cheaply when electing to move it quickly.

Antrim were tremendous, buzzing, full of life and running, and I salute them. Despite this we were within a score of them at the end, they gave us every opportunity to get back at them, no matter how unjustified it would have been, with missed chances and so on. But we were such an affront to incompetence today we couldn't even raise a gallop.

I wasn't at the Fermanagh game but f**k knows how we won it. And Lord knows what this says about Down. The optimist in me wants to believe we can improve enough to win a qualifier game and that this is was just "one of those days" (yeah, another one) but if we ever play half as badly again as we did today, we wouldn't beat a ladies team. A big crowd travelled from Cavan and once again they were badly let down, if there's 1000 Cavan fans at the next game I'll be astonished.

We've got some fair trimmings down the years but it's genuinely hard to think of a single match in which we played worse than today. Even the last time Antrim beat us we were better than this.

One last thing: the first person to bemoan the absence of McCabe and McKeever gets shot. If they wanted to be there, they'd have been there, end of story.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on June 28, 2009, 04:24:07 AM
Just in now from drowing the sorrows, And i have training at 11 in the morning.
That was an utter disgrace,The worst in the Donal Keoghan era was better than what we produced today.
Antrim were at least 25% fitter than us today.

Im a big fan of Podge,But he didnt have the legs to stay with Kevin Brady,Brides has been a great servant but he doesnt have anything to offer.

Jesus i am in no way employed by the county management, and i could have lined out the backs man for man better than that shite today.

Michael Brides was destroyed by Tomas McCann.

Rory Dunne is too slow for a back at IC level.

Eugene Keating is no Back, he didnt know where he was today when he was the free man.
I thought McCutcheon whilst getting a bit of a roasting at times along with Hannon and Sheridan performed admirabely against a midfield which was destoryed.

How McCutcheon was taken off before Brides, i will never know.
Ive always been a Ciaran Galligan fan,One of the few on this board,But he was completely destoryed by Niall McKeever.

Nicholas Walsh was the worst man on the field,nothing went right for him,and heis lack of mobility was exposed.

The Frowards had no game plan,other than get it to Jelly,Flanagan worked extremely hard and was one of cavans better performers.
Mackey had a nightmare.
Martin Reily kicked a good score from play but missed a few frees which while difficult were scoreable for him.
Ray kicked a good score,but he tried to do too much and got dispossed too many times.
Sean Brady was non existant.
Jelly done his bot but he was marked by 3 men at times,He had no help.

The sad fact is,and im more guilty than anyone on this board of this,
we have been been living in hope for the last few years that the new era of Sean Brady,Michael Hannon,Ronan Flanagan,Michael Lyng etc would replace the likes of Larry,Jason,McCabe,Forde etc,Its quite clear now this generation isnt good enough to replace the last of our 97 stalwarts,they have fl;attered to deceive for too long now.

We will no doubt disect the panel and game more in the coming days,But we had a small,slow team out there today,Antrim were ,bigger,Fitter,More athletic and had better footballer sthan us. There are some names that i will throw up that i believe need to be brought in to reoplace some of the players who played today.

As for Tommy Carr,il say nothing about him,.because id be liable to start another Carr Must go Thread,after that shambles today.

The walk out of Clones today was gut wrenching,Its bad enough to get beaten by a better team,and Antrim were a better team,But we were embarrassed today and could have been annihilated.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: the salmon of knowledge on June 28, 2009, 11:45:04 AM
shambolic, i think is the word i used most watching yesterday.

it was asked, and warned about for the last 2 weeks, but we did it, we took antrim for granted, on the field but more so on the sideline.
sometimes it baffles me how15 players can look so much fitter than another set of 15 at IC. antrim ate us for fitness, 100% ran us off the field.
but the most annoying thing for me was talking to an antrim man whostated before the game how they would play a sweeper, big deal, sure the dogs on the street knew that...
not tommy carr by the looks of things. we could not use our extra man at the back at all. keating was lost.

yesterday was abysmal, and i really dont know how that team will be able up raise themselves to achive anything in the back door.


good luck to antrim, good value for their win, and their fans were brill, good day in clones with them, all but for 70 minutes
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Babe Ruth 47 on June 28, 2009, 04:08:52 PM

In foul humor here after that match and a bustin head. Again fair dues to Antrim, they thouroughly deserved the win. Their midfield diamond is extremely good. That young McKeever lad was very impressive. They won some amount of clean possession. Personally I think its up there with the Waterford humiliation as one of the worst Cavan performances in living memory.  Walsh in the middle of the field was like a statue, absolutely brutal. His reading of kick outs was atrocious always 5,6,7 yards away from his man. The full back line, as expected, as atrocious. How Brides stayed on the field is beyound belief. This thing the entire back 6 have developed of flapping their hands and standing like scarecrows instead of putting in a tackle is terrible. Instead of landing a forward back on their arses with a shoulder our backs would rather wave at them.

Did Tommy Carr not expect Antrim to drop a man back in front of Johnston? We seemed clueless ho to bypass this or utilise the free man out the field. Only for that soft goal Cavan could have/should have been beat by 12 points. On a lighter note I thought young Givney done well when he came on. At least he put himself about.

I really hope Antrim can go on and give Tyrone a good rattle. Clones was powerful craic with them about.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Babe Ruth 47 on June 28, 2009, 04:11:22 PM
Only after seeing your post RednBlack. How did management ever let Walsh stay on the field. Fair play to him for effort if that was the case. Very unfortunate.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on June 28, 2009, 04:19:53 PM
Quote from: Babe Ruth 47 on June 28, 2009, 04:08:52 PM

In foul humor here after that match and a bustin head. Again fair dues to Antrim, they thouroughly deserved the win. Their midfield diamond is extremely good. That young McKeever lad was very impressive. They won some amount of clean possession. Personally I think its up there with the Waterford humiliation as one of the worst Cavan performances in living memory.  Walsh in the middle of the field was like a statue, absolutely brutal. His reading of kick outs was atrocious always 5,6,7 yards away from his man. The full back line, as expected, as atrocious. How Brides stayed on the field is beyound belief. This thing the entire back 6 have developed of flapping their hands and standing like scarecrows instead of putting in a tackle is terrible. Instead of landing a forward back on their arses with a shoulder our backs would rather wave at them.

Did Tommy Carr not expect Antrim to drop a man back in front of Johnston? We seemed clueless ho to bypass this or utilise the free man out the field. Only for that soft goal Cavan could have/should have been beat by 12 points. On a lighter note I thought young Givney done well when he came on. At least he put himself about.

I really hope Antrim can go on and give Tyrone a good rattle. Clones was powerful craic with them about.

I didn't no that about Walsh but if that is the case, what the hell was he doing on the field...He was miles off the pace.And i genuinely believe the corner-back in my club would have been better than Brides yesterday. Stand up for him all you want, but he was awful. I had mates from Dublin texting me asking where we found him.

Agree with everything you say Babe Ruth. THought the tackling, or attempt at tackling I should say was hilarious. It just didn't work. And i do agree, Antrim had some pretty impressive players.

And i also agree about Givney. I questioned him during the week but at least he put himself about and tried to do something. So did Larry.

We all probably did get a bit excited after the Fermanagh match, but as they say you are only as good as your last game. For that reason I think it is important the qualifiers are taken seriously and pride is restored.



Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on June 28, 2009, 07:56:40 PM
The Thing that angers me is the lack of a plan B,
Its been the same throughout the league, Plan A is Seanie and if that doesnt work, we are f**ked.
Carr has been in the job well over 6 months now,Its just not good enough after maybe 80-100 training sessions,7 league games 3 McKenna Cup games and 1 Championship game and god knows how many challenges that,No Alternate pattern of play was developed.

For the next day id like to see
David Givney
Keith Fannin
Gunner
and Martin Cahill along with
Larry ,Jason and Eoin Smith(at full back if hes not injured??? ) all starting
The team definetely needs to be re-inforced

It might not be a bit of harm to give Keating another chance in the forwards.
Would also like to see Myles clubmate Tomas Reily being blooded aswell.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on June 28, 2009, 08:11:49 PM
Weird how a football game affects your mood.  Foul, Foul, Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhh.

Well done Antrim, we were schooled. 

They had a high tempo game and went at it from the start.  Double and Triple teaming Johnson.  We just didn'tt turn up.  In the second half, we couldn't get out of our half. 

Words and the ability to analyse what went on fail me.

I noted that Mr. Pain was no longer ranting.  Somehow I don't think that will last!

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on June 28, 2009, 08:15:56 PM
Quote from: Denn Forever on June 28, 2009, 08:11:49 PM
Weird how a football game affects your mood.  Foul, Foul, Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhh.

Well done Antrim, we were schooled. 

They had a high tempo game and went at it from the start.  Double and Triple teaming Johnson.  We just didn'tt turn up.  In the second half, we couldn't get out of our half. 

Words and the ability to analyse what went on fail me.

I noted that Mr. Pain was no longer ranting.  Somehow I don't think that will last!



Mr Pain is well entitled to rant about what happened Saturday Night!!!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on June 28, 2009, 11:38:44 PM
We can be well pissed off that our lads performed so poorly after what looked like a fair effort against Fermanagh however we should not take away from Antrim who will trouble at least one more outfit before the summer is past. Fair play to them. To sober us all up-we are a division 3 side and lucky enough to be that, we had a crowd of lads starting yesterday not one of whom has won anything of note playing in a Cavan jersey. Our club scene wouldn't be the best either now.

Before we get too bloody down on ourselves take a look around tomorrow for your colleagues at work from Laois, Westmeath, Roscommon. Three counties with some underage pedigrees who have been absolutely destroyed in the championship. Sligo nearly taking Galway today so there are all sorts of twists at this early stage. If our lads can regroup and win one game in the qualifiers I won't be too unhappy provided the following game isn't a disaster. We followed terrible league performances with ok so I'm just hoping we can retrieve the situation a small bit.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on June 29, 2009, 12:31:18 AM
That's a decent bit of perspective ac39 and well said but it's just so difficult to get away from the sheer, awful, dreadful poverty of our performance on Saturday.

'Complacency' is a consolatory and worthy exscuse for the strong teams when they inexplicably fail against the weak. We should have had no such delusiuons v Antrim and despite one delirious headbanger on the main board earnestly manufacturing reasons to suggest otherwise, I don't think we did. The effort and application was there I thought, but the execution was abysmal. Leave Tommy Carr out of the equation a moment and concentrate on the embarrassing failings of the actual players at all the basic skills of the game. It was so bad you'd have to ask was it nerves, a bad day at the office, or what? Can you literally imagine us playing any worse than if we went out to deliberately turn in a wretched performance? Or is that sort of speculation a refuge we don't deserve, no more than we don't deserve the relative comfort of saying it was complacency?

For all that, I firmly believe we are way better than yesterday. Not Ulster title winning better, but respectability and not being ashamed to tell people where you're from better. To illustrate, ask yourselves this, with regard to how crucial the correct managerial appointment is: if you'd been told after Cavan beat Antrim last year that the Saffrons would be in an Ulster final within 12 months, how hard would you have laughed? That's not an indictment of TC just yet but a nod to how the right man at the right time and you'd be astonished at what can be achived, just like McHugh did for us 14 years ago.

I guess I'm ackowledging that we've every right to be very downcast but some hope should remain. The manner of our next performance will be very, very telling IMO, and will really set the tone for TC's reign from here on. We are, remember, a very very young side, a decent qualifier performance will encourage, another capitulation will be extremely hard to recover from. The next match will show us if the display v Antrim was a true barometer of where we at, I can only hope and trust that it wasn't.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Hollow Man on June 29, 2009, 07:25:15 AM
Having seen Antrim v Donegal and Cavan v Fermanagh and having watched us beat Antrim handily enough last year, I was confident that Cavan would win this.
However, Antrim played better than I have ever seen them play (they were fantastic) and Cavan turned in their worst ever perfomance in my time watching them. I know they weren't let play all that much at times, but their passing and decision-making was pathetic.
I
QuoteWalsh sustained a dislocated shoulder 5 minutes into the game. the fact that he wasn't subbed is not his fault.

I don't believe this. I dislocated a shoulder in a match once and it's agony, one of the most painful injuries you can receive and even if someone pops it in, you are unable to continue. Nicholas Walsh was able to jog normally from what I've seen - with a dislocated shoulder/collar bone/whatever, you can't hold up the arm.
Walsh was cleaned out - it happens.
No need for ridiculous excuses.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4sam on June 29, 2009, 09:18:43 AM
I actually thought Galligan competed well with Niall Mckeever, got his hands to a lot of ball and fielded a couple of balls, it wasn't his fault that we were cleaned out in terms of breaking ball. The biggest factor in the defeat was the fact thta Mackey was destroyed, he is our main link between defense and attack and he just wasnt in it at all, so much so that his man got man of the match. The lads will bounce back, as they will never play as bad as that again, hopefully we get a nice draw in the qualifiers. The fact remains that those 30 players are the best available in the county at present and we need to stick with them. They didn't go out to play bad, shit happens!!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Hollow Man on June 29, 2009, 10:07:25 AM
According to the Irish News, McKeever made five clean catches during the 50 odd minutes he was on.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on June 29, 2009, 11:06:14 AM
Quote from: Hollow Man on June 29, 2009, 07:25:15 AM
Having seen Antrim v Donegal and Cavan v Fermanagh and having watched us beat Antrim handily enough last year, I was confident that Cavan would win this.
However, Antrim played better than I have ever seen them play (they were fantastic) and Cavan turned in their worst ever perfomance in my time watching them. I know they weren't let play all that much at times, but their passing and decision-making was pathetic.
I
QuoteWalsh sustained a dislocated shoulder 5 minutes into the game. the fact that he wasn't subbed is not his fault.

I don't believe this. I dislocated a shoulder in a match once and it's agony, one of the most painful injuries you can receive and even if someone pops it in, you are unable to continue. Nicholas Walsh was able to jog normally from what I've seen - with a dislocated shoulder/collar bone/whatever, you can't hold up the arm.
Walsh was cleaned out - it happens.
No need for ridiculous excuses.


How recently did you sustain the injury? Was the dislocation confined to the shoulder area?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on June 29, 2009, 11:32:34 AM
Quote from: hardstation on June 29, 2009, 12:42:49 AM
Quote from: cavanmaniac on June 29, 2009, 12:31:18 AM
'Complacency' is a consolatory and worthy exscuse for the strong teams when they inexplicably fail against the weak. We should have had no such delusiuons v Antrim and despite one delirious headbanger on the main board earnestly manufacturing reasons to suggest otherwise, I don't think we did.
I think you'll find that it was on this thread, on the last page and a one Mr. salmon of knowledge who suggested that this happened. That's not to mention a few others who saw this as a factor before the match even took place. For whatever reason, I don't know but please carry on....

Oh well sure if one person and at that, no less an oracle than the "salmon of knowledge" suggested it, it can't but be true! But if you'll recall, my main objection in the first place was you calling us "an arrogant shower of b**tards" and telling us to "suck it up." The best you've been able to provide as an example of this is someone suggesting we may have been complacent along with a quote from a Drung poster where he pointed out we had a good record v Antrim in the past, had every reason to believe we could win but equally had every chance of losing.

Now if mere, run-of-the-mill speculating like this on the simple liklihoods of beating Antrim gets you so hot and bothered, I can only imagine you spend the majority of your time on this board in a state of high agitation.

Had some Cavan poster suggested pre-match that Antrim were a "useless shower of b**tards" then you might have a case, but I think you'll find it's only a bad winner like yourself that uses such language about your opponents, ones who've been a hundred times more gracious in defeat than you in your very well-merited victory. So you trying to seize the moral high ground here is faintly ridiculous, don't you think?

But by all means carry on, it seems to be where you're getting the most pleasure from the win, which says it all really.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on June 29, 2009, 11:50:36 AM
Quote from: Hollow Man on June 29, 2009, 07:25:15 AM
Having seen Antrim v Donegal and Cavan v Fermanagh and having watched us beat Antrim handily enough last year, I was confident that Cavan would win this.
However, Antrim played better than I have ever seen them play (they were fantastic) and Cavan turned in their worst ever perfomance in my time watching them. I know they weren't let play all that much at times, but their passing and decision-making was pathetic.
I
QuoteWalsh sustained a dislocated shoulder 5 minutes into the game. the fact that he wasn't subbed is not his fault.

I don't believe this. I dislocated a shoulder in a match once and it's agony, one of the most painful injuries you can receive and even if someone pops it in, you are unable to continue. Nicholas Walsh was able to jog normally from what I've seen - with a dislocated shoulder/collar bone/whatever, you can't hold up the arm.
Walsh was cleaned out - it happens.
No need for ridiculous excuses.

Sorry Hollow Man, Walsh did in fact dislocate his shoulder. I take back my earlier insult about his performance if that is the case. How could the management leave him on the field though...bafflinig really!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on June 29, 2009, 11:52:57 AM
Now.  Who is up next.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Hollow Man on June 29, 2009, 02:12:32 PM
The shoulder can dislocate several different ways but once it does, it is very obvious, you will have your arm held at a weird angle and running, jumping for a ball etc is out of the question.
Nicholas Walsh may have hurt his shoulder, and if he did it explains a lot of his poor performance, but to say that he dislocated it and played on is laughable.
I'll try to find a pic online or someone with a dislocated shoulder to show you what it's like. Sore shoulder/restricted movement of shoulder is one thing; dislocation is entirely another.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on June 29, 2009, 02:37:48 PM
Quote from: Hollow Man on June 29, 2009, 02:12:32 PM
The shoulder can dislocate several different ways but once it does, it is very obvious, you will have your arm held at a weird angle and running, jumping for a ball etc is out of the question.
Nicholas Walsh may have hurt his shoulder, and if he did it explains a lot of his poor performance, but to say that he dislocated it and played on is laughable.
I'll try to find a pic online or someone with a dislocated shoulder to show you what it's like. Sore shoulder/restricted movement of shoulder is one thing; dislocation is entirely another.

Just to take you up on this HollowMan, I know of players who have dislocated their shoulder on a couple of occasions and have popped it back into place themselves and offered to play on after.

That's not to say a dislocated shoulder isn't a serious injury but it causes far more pain first time around as that's when the real ligament damage occurs whereas subsequent dislocations can be far more bearable.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Hollow Man on June 29, 2009, 02:46:48 PM
Fair enough Homer, I'll take your word for it. I only did mine the once.
It's just infuriating to hear this sort of thing though, smacks of a ready-made excuse. What other county would keep a player on in such a big match with a bad injury?
Especially when we had Mulvey on the bench who, for all his faults, turned the game against the same opposition last year.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on June 29, 2009, 03:36:12 PM
Quote from: REDCOL on June 29, 2009, 03:25:38 PM
Hollow Man, word has it mulvey was told he would never play again for cavan while one of the current cavan selectors is involved. I did not believe it until saturday.

Well that selector should get the boot right away.  Its no wonder were laughing stock off the country with crap like that going on.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on June 29, 2009, 03:53:19 PM
Quote from: Hollow Man on June 29, 2009, 02:12:32 PM
The shoulder can dislocate several different ways but once it does, it is very obvious, you will have your arm held at a weird angle and running, jumping for a ball etc is out of the question.
Nicholas Walsh may have hurt his shoulder, and if he did it explains a lot of his poor performance, but to say that he dislocated it and played on is laughable.
I'll try to find a pic online or someone with a dislocated shoulder to show you what it's like. Sore shoulder/restricted movement of shoulder is one thing; dislocation is entirely another.

Walsh was in Drogheda hospital this morning for a check-up and that was the diagnosis I am told form a reliable source.
When u say a certain selector, as far as I no We have a manager, a trainer and only one genuine selector. Is that correct?
Do you know the reason why he was told this and if that was the case, why would Mulvey sit on the bench?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on June 29, 2009, 04:17:13 PM
Quote from: REDCOL on June 29, 2009, 04:13:13 PM

Footnote: Some of the team celebrated their performance with a good knees up in Butlersbridge, good preparation for the 11th of July :o :o :o :o


Id doubt if anyone was celebrating.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on June 29, 2009, 04:32:07 PM
im sure a management team of 3,
One of which, the manager spent the whole league campaign going to as many Dublin Games as he could,many on days where there were Cavan Club games on, seen alot of club action during the earlier part of this year.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on June 29, 2009, 04:40:17 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on June 29, 2009, 04:32:07 PM
im sure a management team of 3,
One of which, the manager spent the whole league campaign going to as many Dublin Games as he could,many on days where there were Cavan Club games on, seen alot of club action during the earlier part of this year.



A manager who knew the system Antrim were going to play and still couldnt work out a plan to try and stop them.   I get the feeling that he didnt take Antrim serious.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on June 29, 2009, 04:46:13 PM
He wasnt even at the Donegal/Antrim game because he had the team training at the same time.
Thats unheard of at IC Level, a manager not going to see his potential opponents in person,watching a copy of the game on TV is no substitute.
Im not for one minute laying all the blame on Carr because almost all the players didnt perform,but theres no way the preparation was were it should have been.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on June 29, 2009, 04:58:50 PM
Some Stats from irish news

Cavan Kickouts
                         Cavan     Antrim
Breaks won           10             13
Clean Catches         0               4

Antrim Kickouts

                    Cavan     Antrim
Breaks won           9         3
Clean Catches        3        4



Kickout Summary

Cavan 48%  Antrim 52%
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on June 29, 2009, 05:04:34 PM
I actually think he took them no less seriously than he should have cavan 4 ever. You can see the two stools he was caught between - go man for man in defence and play numbers in attack to stretch what would be a packed, hard-working Antrim defence (although bewilderingly, we ran down the middle into cul de sacs time and time again, perhaps hoping to win frees and exploit Martin Reilly's form, which proved flawed in the end), or pack our own defence and leave the attack isolated and lacking support. Those were the choices facing him and patently, the first option didn't work in the first half because any time Antrim got the ball past the middle - i.e. most of the time - they were skipping around our defenders who seemed to think they were partaking in a non contact sport like f**king tag rugby or something.

The second option, i.e. matching Antrim's pattern and slugging it out like we tried in the second half was clearly the right thing to do. They kicked a lot more wides in this period - a marked contrast to the free and easy scoring before the interval - because of the pressure they were at last put under while kicking, but the sheer volume of attacks they could launch, because of the dominance at midfield, always meant that they'd secure enough scores to win it. Not least because although we belatedly adopted the right tactic, we simply didn't have the fitness to execute it properly. Remember Jayo on his own on edge of the square in the final minute, surrounded by 5/6 Antrim men, and not a supporting Cavan player in sight. Jayo somehow won a ball in and his free, took his first of two potshots at the goal and yet there still was barely a Cavan player anywhere in the same parish!

This rank lack of fitness as opposed to the tactics on the day is the biggest blame we can attach to TC I think. But the most culpability has to be laid at the door of the players who collectively and individually looked like they'd never seen a ball in their lives so mind-numbingly dreadful were their attempts at using it accurately and creatively. On the question of preparation, I presume TC took the same approach pre-Fermanagh and did okay there by all accounts, so I'd hold back on hanging the manager just yet. If in time he deserves a slating, let him have it, but let's wait and see if this game will prove typical of his reign or a mere one-off like we all have to desperately hope it is.

The next game has a helluva lot at stake in it folks, make no mistake about it, it's make or break and what happens in this game will colour the rest of TC's reign and every one of his plans.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on June 29, 2009, 06:21:05 PM
Quote from: cavan4ever on June 29, 2009, 04:17:13 PM
Quote from: REDCOL on June 29, 2009, 04:13:13 PM

Footnote: Some of the team celebrated their performance with a good knees up in Butlersbridge, good preparation for the 11th of July :o :o :o :o


Id doubt if anyone was celebrating.
The point is if I was one of those players I'd be hiding my head in shame until I could make up for it in a fortnight. A good few were guests of Mr.Keoghan on Saturday. Superstars.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on June 29, 2009, 06:29:56 PM
Quote from: Lawrence of Knockbride on June 29, 2009, 06:21:05 PM
Quote from: cavan4ever on June 29, 2009, 04:17:13 PM
Quote from: REDCOL on June 29, 2009, 04:13:13 PM

Footnote: Some of the team celebrated their performance with a good knees up in Butlersbridge, good preparation for the 11th of July :o :o :o :o


Id doubt if anyone was celebrating.
The point is if I was one of those players I'd be hiding my head in shame until I could make up for it in a fortnight. A good few were guests of Mr.Keoghan on Saturday. Superstars.
I have been quiet up to now coz I was trying to compose myself but gonna step in right now and say steady on.... I don't think we can criticize any of the boys for hitting town after Saturday's match.  If my team gets beaten or I have a bad game myself and if the opportunity allows me to, there's nothing like a dozen or so pints and then a slap of vodkas or whiskeys to take your mind off it for a couple of hours - and I know for a fact most of the boys on the county panel are people like the rest of us so why wouldn't they want to do the same...
Did we expect them to come home and go straight out on the field at Breffni and start training again or go to a Hotel for video analysis??
What exactly would have been the appropriate response to Saturday's result and more so the preformance? 
Believe me when I say the mood and humour on Saturday was a lot different when compared to after the Fermanagh game so they were hardly celebrating?

Everyone is hurting the players especially so lets try and not go over the top with some of the comments
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on June 29, 2009, 07:15:54 PM
Quote from: Celt_Man on June 29, 2009, 06:29:56 PM
Quote from: Lawrence of Knockbride on June 29, 2009, 06:21:05 PM
Quote from: cavan4ever on June 29, 2009, 04:17:13 PM
Quote from: REDCOL on June 29, 2009, 04:13:13 PM

Footnote: Some of the team celebrated their performance with a good knees up in Butlersbridge, good preparation for the 11th of July :o :o :o :o


Id doubt if anyone was celebrating.
The point is if I was one of those players I'd be hiding my head in shame until I could make up for it in a fortnight. A good few were guests of Mr.Keoghan on Saturday. Superstars.
I have been quiet up to now coz I was trying to compose myself but gonna step in right now and say steady on.... I don't think we can criticize any of the boys for hitting town after Saturday's match.  If my team gets beaten or I have a bad game myself and if the opportunity allows me to, there's nothing like a dozen or so pints and then a slap of vodkas or whiskeys to take your mind off it for a couple of hours - and I know for a fact most of the boys on the county panel are people like the rest of us so why wouldn't they want to do the same...
Did we expect them to come home and go straight out on the field at Breffni and start training again or go to a Hotel for video analysis??
What exactly would have been the appropriate response to Saturday's result and more so the preformance? 
Believe me when I say the mood and humour on Saturday was a lot different when compared to after the Fermanagh game so they were hardly celebrating?

Everyone is hurting the players especially so lets try and not go over the top with some of the comments
I had a feeling I'd get this response. They certainly are entitled to as many dozen pints as they want. I only made a suggestion as to what I would do (and I've done it in bold this time(I think)) which is what you're now asking. I was in no form for going out after watching it. Were you?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on June 29, 2009, 07:29:45 PM
Looked at the game again on RTE.ie.

No one likes to be made a fool of and we, the supporters made fools of ourselves.  Talk about TC not taking Antrim seriously, I didn't take Antrim seriously.  Put it up was worried before the game, but I didn't take the worries seriously.  We had loads of players with Sigerson experience, like Antrim.  So I'd like to think we just had a bad day att the office.

Back to the game, we just seemed to take the wrong options all the time and this seemed to introduce a panic into the players.  There were 12 minutes plus stopage time left when we scored the goal.  A bit more composure and taking our points may have worried the Antrim team.  Our shooting was abysmal but what can we do about that?  The forwards can score but seemed to be rattled.

Botttom line, 1st year of a rebuilding program so lets see what happens.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on June 29, 2009, 07:34:09 PM
Its all been said really.Still shocked,not at the loss but at the teams performance and lack of the basics.Nobody played well but the lack of ideas from the line was very worrying too.In saying that,he got his line-up wrong from the start,so we were on the back foot immediately.The myth that Keating is a Centre Half back can be put to bed and also the myth that he is one of Cavans best passers.There were so many mistakes made along the line and some questions Id love to hear an answer to include-
How McCutcheon was taken off before Brides or Sheridan was crazy.What do Fannin or Cahill have to do to get a game?Why not try a target man on the square and give Antrim something to think about? How was midfield left the same? How come Antrim looked like a Senior team in condition when Cavan looked like a Junior team?.Fitness wasnt a problem against Fermanagh but on Saturday every Cavan player looked jaded.
The biggest disappointment is that for the first time in about 3-4 years Cavan people actually travelled in numbers,with expectations might I add. It might be another 3-4 years before we see the same again.And who could blame them?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on June 29, 2009, 08:38:07 PM
Lads im more pissed off than anyone over the result but i've decided im not going to criticise the performance anymore.

Denn you are right, this was the first year of a rebuilding programme and at the start of the year we woulda grabbed the thought of a trip to Clones with both hands.

After the Fermanagh I wasn's sure about a lot of things. Antrim got us to learn about ourselves, and flagged up our weaknesses clear as day.

The team was relatively young and that was their first experience of a proper pressure enviroment..for a lot of them anyway!And lets not forget it was Carr's first experience of an Ulster pressure cooker too.

Now we will see what Carr is all about. I know a lot of the players speak very highly of him but TC has to learn from that defeat, as do the players. Everybody does. Many of them froze at the occasion, but next time they will no what to expect.

Next year we will see what the man is all about and if we are heading in the right direction.

Problems were flagged up. Now they have to start working towards solutions.

Our defensive system clearly didn't work. We went man for man but didn't tackle. Thats suicide.
Midfield again we were outclassed and I think we are going to have to start looking at playing someone like Keating,Givney or Cullivan at WF the help out our midfield.


I saw McHugh in the Star branded our forwards as individuals. And i really do feel they did not work as a unit. Johnston, as good as he is needs to take his hands of his hips and work...even if the ball isn't coming. If he is being marked by three men, he needs to make decoy runs to bring his teammates into the game, instead of standing still. I love Jelly and think he is brilliant but there is no I in team.

I would like to see a few changes by the time the qualifiers come round..and i dont want any radical changes. More Gradual progression.

Be interested to hear how you guys feel we can move forward.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on June 29, 2009, 09:58:05 PM
I agree with the last two posts despite what I posted earlier. I too have reminded myself that we just needed to see progress, but gradual process over TC's term. As far a the question of moving forward in the immediate future I would suggest the following. Take Sheridan, Brides and Hannon out of the full-back line and replace with Cahill,Smith and Fanin. No point having Smith sitting their and I think we might as well experiment in the back door to some extent. It will give the likes of Hannon a kick in the arse and give these three a chance to prove TC wrong for omitting them. I'd put McCutcheon back at WB with Flanagan in the middle and I'd move Dermot Sheridan to the other wing in place of Podge who is long out of chances. Midfield is tough as I can't bring myself to suggest giving Mulvey a chance. Try Keating and/or Givney there perhaps, maybe even Cullivan. In attack I'm not sure. Mackey will come good again and all that needs to be said about Johnston has been said. I think we'd all like to see Pierson get a run but who knows what goes on behind the scenes. Sean Brady needs to be left out similary to Podge.
See, simple isn't it. ;)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on June 29, 2009, 10:21:10 PM
Quote from: boojangles on June 29, 2009, 07:34:09 PM

The biggest disappointment is that for the first time in about 3-4 years Cavan people actually travelled in numbers,with expectations might I add. It might be another 3-4 years before we see the same again.And who could blame them?

Anyone who was at majority of league games would have know well not to have to high expectations.  That standard of that performance was very similar to several league games.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on June 29, 2009, 10:34:19 PM
Lawrence
Im the biggest Cullivan fan on here,
But hes not big enough for Midfield at IC Level.
Wing Forward as an extra option for kickouts is where he should be tried.
Ive seen Eugene Keating do well at midfield at minor,
Yet he was poor against Kildare there last year,even if he was thrown in at the deep end.
The Place for Walsh is full forward where he can use his strength and jumping ability to knock the ball down to Jelly and co and win posession.
He doesnt have the legs to get around the field.

Team i would like to see the next day is

1.James Reily
2.Michael Hannon
3.Eoin Smith
4.Martin Cahill/Keith Fannin
5.John McCutcheon
6.Dermot Sheridan(This is his best position in my opinion,He was very good here at Minor level)
7.Paul Brady
8.David Givney
9.Ciaran Galligan
10.Ronan Flanagan
11.Cian Mackey
12.Ray Cullivan
13.Martin Reily
14.Nicholas Walsh
15.Seanie Johnson

with Flanagan dropping into back line as , Mackey dropping deep aswell,Leaving hopefully  Walsh and Jelly inside with Martin Reily and Cullivan a bit deeper to get up in support up in support. If Whoever we play starts to crowd out Jelly,Then Mackey and Flanagan will have to carry it forward.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on June 29, 2009, 10:38:09 PM
What age is Mossy Corr from Denn now, ive being impressed with his fielding and power any time ive seen him and i think its players like him that we needed around midfield to get breaks.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tierworker blue on June 29, 2009, 10:41:00 PM
My first time online since the game...shocking stuff, and another kick in the goolies for being a Cavan supporter (I know I say through thick and thin, but christ...)
It's all been said over the last few pages, so there's no need for me to rehash the gory details. The problems on the day were so blindingly obvious to us all, yet the sideline folk seemed oblivious, and that worries me. I was particularly worried by the way the team came back out on the pitch after half time...in threes and fours, jogging / strolling in an obviously half arsed manner...zero fire in the bellies. Surely after playing a rubbish half of football, yet only going in 1 point down, it should've led to a half time dressing room awakening / bollocking / motivation with the lads re-energised and mad to tear Antrim apart. The way they sauntered back to the pitch was like they were tipping out for a challenge match. It did'nt bode well for a game that at that stage, was there to be turned around.
As many of y'all have said (and I agree...) the next match will tell a lot. Many's the team has got a beating, yet made a fist of it in the back door. Hopefully we can get another outing or two and find more positives from the season.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on June 29, 2009, 11:30:06 PM
Quote from: cavan4ever on June 29, 2009, 10:38:09 PM
What age is Mossy Corr from Denn now, ive being impressed with his fielding and power any time ive seen him and i think its players like him that we needed around midfield to get breaks.



hes not very old
I agree that he should be around the panel, Hes had Power Pace and great fielding ability.
There are a number of lads like Corr,
two others being Gary Fernacombe of Drumalee and our own Barry Kelly who i believe should be around the scene come the start of next year.
both of these players have great engines and speed to get up and down the field and are good defenders aswell.
The Fact is, we know there are a number of lads like Trevor Crowe etc who refuse to play county football,but there are a number of lads better than whats on the panel now,that need to be brought in.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: trim blue on June 29, 2009, 11:38:45 PM
Thought we would win but I felt going into this that Cavan being favourites, however slight, was going to be a factor and rather than produce complacency it seemed to induce nerves. It doesn't explain everything by any means as Antrim were terrific and tactically we got it wrong but nerves can make a team like Cavan -who are no world beaters or have no stock of underage or senior success to draw on -fumble balls, feel lethargic, lose composure and we saw plenty of all of this in the way we didn't against Fermanagh. Maybe I'm clutching at straws but we have to find some green shoots from somewhere. At least now TC knows exactly whats involved in being Cavan manager and the full extent of the problems he faces, what he and the players can or want to do about it is the million dollar question. On Saturday night I felt that I wouldn't go to see them again but now a few days later I'm thinking that its good we have a game in a couple of weeks and another chance to at least salvage some pride. We came back before after the Tyrone mauling and beat Donegal and Meath albeit with a lot more experience in the side, we also can't forget that they played way better against Fermanagh so its in them to improve on Saturday night. So what do you reckon lads will TC go with the psycholgy of giving the same team a chance to redeem themselves and rebuild confidence or go with a few changes?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: trim blue on June 29, 2009, 11:49:02 PM
Sorry lads didn't see those posts with proposed changes before my last post...
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: trim blue on June 30, 2009, 12:03:31 AM
My team
Miller
Cahill Sheridan Hannon
McCutcheon Gunner Fannin (not tight enough for the corner and could be great going forward from LHB)

Galligan Walsh

Cullivan Flanagan Mackey
Pierson Givney Jelly

Its a gamble leaving Reilly out for the frees but when it doesn't put them over he doesn't offer enough in open play for me, Pierson can take them further out
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on June 30, 2009, 12:08:41 AM
One problem we have if we dont play Martin Reily is,None of the rest of our players are competant kicking off the ground.
Martin Reily is a bit like Finbar Reily of Lacken in that some days he cant miss and some days he will kick a lot wide.
Declan McKiernan is around the panel and is a great long distance free taker from the hands,but hes only average kicking off the ground.
Raymond Galligan of Lacken is our long term answer to that problem in my opinion.
Big Man who can win ball,score and is a very good free taker.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: trim blue on June 30, 2009, 12:17:08 AM
Fair point BM, Finbar Reilly is a good example and I think Martin Reilly will be in and out of the side the same way that Finbar was as long as he shows that inconsistancy, sure even Carolan was dropped in 97 because of his lack of contribution in open play and he was one of the most consistant freetakers in the country, mind you it gave him a good kick up the arse at the time!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on June 30, 2009, 12:35:19 AM
To be fair while Martin Reily lost ball in contact and ran into blind alleys on Saturday  he also chased back and put in tackles on the marauding Antrim half backs, Loughrey and Scullion when some of his teammates either werent willing to track back or just were not fit to stay with speed half backs . He also kicked one tremendous point from play.
While he was nowhere near his best,He was one of Cavans better performers on saturday,although thats not saying much.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on June 30, 2009, 10:36:37 AM
Would agree with a few points BH Man.Kelly from your own club is a fine footballer with a great engine,but IMO too casual and probably wouldnt enjoy the commitment needed for IC Football,in saying that he's as good as some lads in there. Gary Ferncombe is as good a footballer as anybody at the moment in Cavan,but TBH Im glad he's not in there.He made his mind up at the start of the year that it wasnt for him,and he will be based in England from September so thats him ruled out.
Your point about Declan McKiernan being a good free taker,I dont agree with.Iv seen him a few times this year and Id say he misses more than he scores.He wouldnt add near enough from play to be near IC Level IMO.Raymond Galligan is a better free taker and when on his game would be an addition but he is far too slow for IC level,and for a big man he doesnt enjoy the physical side of the game.
I would agree that our whole Full Back line needs a revamp and its about time Ted Smith got his chance.We cannot possibly start with the same FB line the next day,and we also need to get a Centre Half Back,maybe Sheridan or Paul Brady who would be my choice.
I agree that we need to get a big man on the square who can win his own ball,which should also free up Jelly more.Givney done well on Saturday but maybe Walsh could be tried.Some how I dont see TC trying Walsh in there tho.
Midfield is also a problem area and we definitely need a few more men around the centre,maybe operating from Wing Forward.
When you actually go through the whole team,its hard to be optimistic because we have problems in so many key areas.
I was very disappointed in Millers kick outs also-especially when we were being cleaned out from the start.He never seems to vary his kicks or try a few short ones.But direction should have been coming from the line after 20 minutes instead of standing watching our own kickouts coming straight back at us and doing nothing.
The next game is vital to even restore a bit of pride,but in the grand scheme of things does it really matter. I will be there to support my county but after Saturday it just feels like we have taken two steps back.I know TC is there for a 3 year term but to see the lack of fight in some players,its hard to know if it can get much better.Maybe we just cant cut it at Senior level.
On a side note-Can anybody ever remember Cavan at any level win a game refereed by John Bannon? Im in no way saying he bet us but I really detest the man as a referee and as soon as I seen him in the middle,I knew the omens were bad.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on June 30, 2009, 11:15:19 AM
Quote from: boojangles on June 30, 2009, 10:36:37 AM
I was very disappointed in Millers kick outs also-especially when we were being cleaned out from the start.He never seems to vary his kicks or try a few short ones.But direction should have been coming from the line after 20 minutes instead of standing watching our own kickouts coming straight back at us and doing nothing.


He doesnt vary his kickouts ? Maybe be should have tried to launch a few to our giants of half forwards Mackey, Flanagan or Brady.  He always gets some short ones going but that doesnt work the whole game.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on June 30, 2009, 11:23:20 AM
Quote from: boojangles on June 30, 2009, 10:36:37 AM
The next game is vital to even restore a bit of pride,but in the grand scheme of things does it really matter.

I think the answer is in the first part of the question there boojangles. I firmly believe the next game is absolutely pivotal. If we don't win it and show a bit of pride and gumption like we did in the league match v Down, it will completely colour if not taint the rest of Tommy Carr's reign and given that it's only at its first stage, that would be pretty disastrous. We need to finish this season at least playing decently and looking like we're on some sort of upward curve. If we finish it out playing as abysmally as last Saturday, it'd be very hard to pick things up again next year or start it in any sort of a positive way.  
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on June 30, 2009, 11:42:03 AM
i actually just thought, did i read ages ago in a newspaper that Jelly was planning to go to the States for the summer?if so is he going to miss the qualifers do you know?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on June 30, 2009, 11:44:19 AM
Anyone hear that Lyng walked out with about two minutes to go Saturday evening?

Id tell Keating to have a bit of manners and go back and play with his club.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on June 30, 2009, 12:19:25 PM
Quote from: cavan4ever on June 30, 2009, 11:44:19 AM
Anyone hear that Lyng walked out with about two minutes to go Saturday evening?

Id tell Keating to have a bit of manners and go back and play with his club.

C4E, why does KEating need manners?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on June 30, 2009, 12:21:09 PM
Maybe not manners, respect.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on June 30, 2009, 12:29:21 PM
C4E, why does he need respect..I have no idea what your talking about!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on June 30, 2009, 12:45:23 PM
Quote from: cavan4ever on June 30, 2009, 11:44:19 AM
Anyone hear that Lyng walked out with about two minutes to go Saturday evening?

Id tell Keating to have a bit of manners and go back and play with his club.

I would love to know what the point is naming the like of Micky Lyng and Gerald Pierson in your 24 and not giving them a run.If they are not fully fit,they should not be in the panel.We missed Lyngs creativity big time.
I heard a while back that Jelly told the Gaels that he may not be around for the latter stages of the Senior Championship.Don't know if its the States and not sure if theres any truth in it,I know his girlfriend is over in New Zealand.
C4Ever don't see the point in criticising Keating really.The lad is only 19 or so and has alot to learn.Im not the biggest fan of him at CHB but lets not get personal. We all know Saturday wasnt good enough but nobody went out to lose on Saturday.There are a few club players on this board including myself and I cant say any of us would do any better than what was shown on Saturday. The 19 lads that played on Saturday were the ones who had put in 3-4 sessions/games a week since January.Its easy to criticise from behind a computer.Im as guilty as anybody for being over critical,I suppose we just have to keep the faith and hope that Saturday was a once off,and that everybody will learn from it-especially the Management.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on June 30, 2009, 01:10:32 PM
yep in fairness to then they do give up an awful lot of time, on a voluntary basis, so it is hard to properly slate them. It's not as if they are being paid thousands for their troubles you know?

Did Keating react badly to being taken off or something?
Still cant believe they actually put him in FF for a while!! Where did that notion come from!

Heard there was a bit of argy bargy in the imperial on Saturday!

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on June 30, 2009, 01:23:14 PM
He look like he hadnt played much football and if he bothered to play with his club it would work to his advantage. 
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on June 30, 2009, 01:45:04 PM
Quote from: cavan4ever on June 30, 2009, 01:23:14 PM
He look like he hadnt played much football and if he bothered to play with his club it would work to his advantage. 

He played against Gowna in the Championship so he is back playing with them.

Wasnt near the Imperial thank god.Was chatting a few of them Saturday and Sunday and they all were fairly subdued.I certainly wouldnt begrudge them a few pints.

The club Championships will go ahead 2 weeks after Cavan are eliminated from the Qualifiers.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on June 30, 2009, 01:54:46 PM
Jaysus I would not begrudge any of them pints at all. I cant stand people criticising players having a few jars after a game.

Just heard a story involving a current players and a former player, having a little bit of handbags!

What date will the club championship be back roughly?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on June 30, 2009, 02:12:36 PM
Quote from: put-it-up on June 30, 2009, 01:54:46 PM
Jaysus I would not begrudge any of them pints at all. I cant stand people criticising players having a few jars after a game.

Just heard a story involving a current players and a former player, having a little bit of handbags!

What date will the club championship be back roughly?

Cavan play July 11th.so 2 weeks from that if we lose.if we win 2 weeks from the 18th.If we win on the 18th then 2 weeks from the 25th or so on.
Thank God theres a bit of certainty anyway.
Drinks In,Wits out.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on June 30, 2009, 03:06:26 PM
Didn't know that Liam Bradley was the Derry Bradley's Da.

Makes interesting reading.

Quote from: Archie Mitchell on June 30, 2009, 11:39:49 AM
Antrim feel benefits of the love of the game

Against the Breeze
By Paddy Heaney
30/06/09

Liam Bradley's success in steering Antrim into their first Ulster Senior Football final in 39 years was laced with irony.

The day before Antrim created history in Clones the GPA announced that a media ban will be enforced during this year's Leinster Football and Munster Hurling finals.

Liam Bradley and his Antrim players must have scratched their heads when they heard this news. Bradley and his happy Saffrons inhabit a very different world.

This was evident in the immediate aftermath of Antrim's victory over Donegal in Ballybofey when Bradley let rip on the journalists who enforced their own media ban on his players ahead of the game.

In typically 'Baker' fashion, the Glenullin man asked where all their microphones were the previous Tuesday when journalists from just two newspapers (The Irish News and The Andersonstown News) attended Antrim's press night.

The snub was keenly felt. Press nights are good for managers because it allows all interviews to be completed in one fell swoop and it's good for journalists because there's no need to spend hours tracking down players on their mobile phones.

A bit of media coverage is one of the small perks of playing for Antrim. The players don't crave the attention, but it is appreciated by their family, friends and clubs. An interview is something that can be kept in the attic, proof that granda used to play for the county.

The typical Belfast

inter-county footballer has got little in common with some of his city counterparts in Dublin and Cork.

James Loughrey is a good example. At that press night in Creggan, Loughrey revealed how he turned his back on a career in basketball because all his friends played for St Brigid's. A gifted athlete, Loughrey graduated to the county senior team, but only to become the butt of the jokes and jibes from those same loyal friends.

Like his Antrim team-mates, James Loughrey plays football for the love of the game. There is nothing else. No sponsorship deals, cheques for appearances, or financial incentives to join other clubs.

The GAA in Dublin is a very different animal. Last week I was speaking to a club footballer living and playing in Dublin. His latest club provides him free accommodation and pays him E300 a week.

Then we wonder why there are individuals in Dublin who have signed for three different clubs, all within a 15-minute drive of each other.

In an environment where the GAA is acting as a revenue stream, it's not surprising that some people now hold a topsy-turvy view of what it's all about. If a footballer is getting a signing on fee, then of course he'll believe that: 'it's not what you can do for your club, but what your club can do for you.'

Those who believe that the GAA owe them a living would feel bewildered that Bradley is not getting paid to manage Antrim. And don't take my word for it.

Antrim chairman John McSparran made an unequivocal statement to this newspaper a few months ago, stating Bradley is not being remunerated for his services.

Nope. The real reason Liam Bradley is managing Antrim is because, one day, he wants to manage his native Derry. He has already been overlooked for the job twice.

But Bradley is refusing to go away. As Derry manager, he would have two sons on the team. This can pose problems. There would also have been some confusion over his ability to do the job. When he led Glenullin to the county title in 2007, some of the credit was attributed to Kevin Madden, who Liam brought in to assist him. There may also have been some doubts about Bradley's temperament. He's no lamb, and he'll say exactly what he thinks to anyone.

A lesser man might have simply accepted that the Derry job was always going to remain beyond his grasp.

But by taking the Antrim post, Bradley set out to prove that he can manage a county team, and that he can do it successfully. Now, his stock is soaring and his detractors must view him in a different light.

Antrim have played 11 League and Championship games this year and lost just once. They've gained promotion from Division Four and have progressed to the last 12 teams in the All-Ireland Championship.

Bradley deserves huge credit. His strength of personality lies at the heart of his success.

Weak, insecure managers surround themselves with weak, insipid, 'yes' men. A strong manager likes to surround himself with strong people, who may sometimes challenge him.

At Glenullin, Bradley took on Kevin Madden, and has now harnessed Niall Conway's expertise. Conway led the Derry minors to the 2007 All-Ireland final. His teams play 'heads up football'. It's fast, it's slick and it's effective. Conway coaches, Bradley calls the shots.

His conviction is unshakeable. His nickname, 'the Baker' was earned due to the white sports jacket he was fond of wearing at a time in the 1980s when a brown leather jacket, a moustache, and a pint of Bass was the standard leisure wear of most self-respecting North Derry men.

And, unlike a few other managers, Bradley hasn't turned into a Mickey Harte mimic. He will not be found standing on the sideline in thoughtful repose. After Sean Brady won Cavan's first three kick-outs, Liam could be seen addressing this state of affairs with Tony Scullion. Fingers were pointed, voices were raised, and it can be assumed Tony was told in no uncertain terms to make sure that Brady didn't make four catches in-a-row.

The previous week his son Paddy was snuffed out of the game in Casement Park when double-marked by Justin McMahon and Conor Gormley.

Having watched that performance, it would have been understandable if Bradley had aped Tyrone's system against Cavan's Seanie Johnston. But Bradley had his own ideas. During a conversation with him last week, he told me that there was no guarantee that he would put two men on Johnston. I thought he was joking, and laughed. Liam laughed too.

Liam wasn't joking. After Saturday's game, it emerged that Bradley had told the Antrim players that there was no need to double mark Johnston. He told them that as individuals they were better footballers than the Cavan players. He said if they went out and expressed themselves then they would win.

Liam Bradley is not the first manager to assure Antrim footballers that they are every bit as good as the outfit next door. The difference with 'the Baker' is that when he says something, players believe it.

Next up for the Saffrons is Tyrone, the All-Ireland champions in an Ulster final.

There will be no media bans. After 39 years in darkness, the Saffrons deserve their moment in the sun. And their families are entitled to store and treasure the newspaper supplements and television stories which will be produced for this rare and wonderful occasion.

Because when you manage and play for this Antrim team, you use the attic to store newspaper cuttings, not the brown paper bags from tax-free perks.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on June 30, 2009, 04:25:57 PM
Quote from: boojangles on June 30, 2009, 02:12:36 PM
Quote from: put-it-up on June 30, 2009, 01:54:46 PM
Jaysus I would not begrudge any of them pints at all. I cant stand people criticising players having a few jars after a game.

Just heard a story involving a current players and a former player, having a little bit of handbags!

What date will the club championship be back roughly?

Cavan play July 11th.so 2 weeks from that if we lose.if we win 2 weeks from the 18th.If we win on the 18th then 2 weeks from the 25th or so on.
Thank God theres a bit of certainty anyway.
Drinks In,Wits out.

No good if a club player wants to book a holiday and not miss championship. 
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on June 30, 2009, 08:49:16 PM
I haven't said a lot since the match on here as I was trying to compose myself. Needless to say it was very disappointing indeed. But on reflection beating Fermanagh didn't make us all ireland contenders and losing to Antrim does not make us the worst team in Ireland. Antrim are a handy enough outfit and are on a bit of a roll - I think they will give Tyrone a good game.

As for the match - I don't believe the Cavan team were less fit than Antrim. We went up against the workaholics of Fermanagh and we didn't lack in fitness that day. Perhaps Antrim are more athletic but I am more inclined to think it was a mental failing on our behalf. When you see guys just stand of their man instead of walking into him, allowing the man to run at them and trail behind like a junior football then you have to wonder were the lads really up for it or did they get some world beater attitude from 1 win. When I look back at the performance and note that no one really did their stuff you have to suspect that is the case. Where such an attitude would come from is beyond me. It is managements job to make sure this does not happen and I think they failed on this count.

I also think they made a big mistake sending McCutcheon into corner back having never played him in there all year. I mean it is not like Antrim were putting in high ball. I though Walsh was terrible but maybe the injury was the cause of this. So the players did not do themselves justice and the management weren't too clever either. But this is yr 1 of a total rebuild. The important thing is to learn and react well to this. We really need to go out next day, be up for it and go hard from start to finish. Make some personel changes if neccessary but for f**k sake lets be up for the bloody match! I won't give up all hope just yet even if thats what I felt like on Saturday.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on June 30, 2009, 08:57:05 PM
Quote from: boojangles on June 30, 2009, 01:45:04 PM
Quote from: cavan4ever on June 30, 2009, 01:23:14 PM
He look like he hadnt played much football and if he bothered to play with his club it would work to his advantage. 

He played against Gowna in the Championship so he is back playing with them.

Wasnt near the Imperial thank god.Was chatting a few of them Saturday and Sunday and they all were fairly subdued.I certainly wouldnt begrudge them a few pints.

The club Championships will go ahead 2 weeks after Cavan are eliminated from the Qualifiers.
Boojangles could you confirm that this is 100% accurate about the club championships? If we were beaten on Saturday week and the club championship started two weeks later do you know what would be on the weekend in between as that is the date scheduled for the next round of club championships game per the master list? Appreciate if you could clear that up, thanks.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on June 30, 2009, 11:36:40 PM
Quote from: Lawrence of Knockbride on June 30, 2009, 08:57:05 PM
Quote from: boojangles on June 30, 2009, 01:45:04 PM
Quote from: cavan4ever on June 30, 2009, 01:23:14 PM
He look like he hadnt played much football and if he bothered to play with his club it would work to his advantage. 

He played against Gowna in the Championship so he is back playing with them.

Wasnt near the Imperial thank god.Was chatting a few of them Saturday and Sunday and they all were fairly subdued.I certainly wouldnt begrudge them a few pints.

The club Championships will go ahead 2 weeks after Cavan are eliminated from the Qualifiers.
Boojangles could you confirm that this is 100% accurate about the club championships? If we were beaten on Saturday week and the club championship started two weeks later do you know what would be on the weekend in between as that is the date scheduled for the next round of club championships game per the master list? Appreciate if you could clear that up, thanks.

Cavan play July 11th.so 2 weeks from that if we lose.if we win 2 weeks from the 18th.If we win on the 18th then 2 weeks from the 25th or so on.

This is definitely the case,got the text from the one man who is always in the know in my club,he is our County Board delegate also.I would take it as gospel. They have changed from the Master Fixtures already as far as I know. I presume there would be nothing on the weekend in between to give the County players a chance to get back in with their clubs.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: the salmon of knowledge on June 30, 2009, 11:49:54 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on June 30, 2009, 12:35:19 AM
To be fair while Martin Reily lost ball in contact and ran into blind alleys on Saturday  he also chased back and put in tackles on the marauding Antrim half backs, Loughrey and Scullion when some of his teammates either werent willing to track back or just were not fit to stay with speed half backs . He also kicked one tremendous point from play.
While he was nowhere near his best,He was one of Cavans better performers on saturday,although thats not saying much.


are you for real???
worst on field IMO
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on July 01, 2009, 08:44:15 AM
Quote from: boojangles on June 30, 2009, 11:36:40 PM
Quote from: Lawrence of Knockbride on June 30, 2009, 08:57:05 PM
Quote from: boojangles on June 30, 2009, 01:45:04 PM
Quote from: cavan4ever on June 30, 2009, 01:23:14 PM
He look like he hadnt played much football and if he bothered to play with his club it would work to his advantage. 

He played against Gowna in the Championship so he is back playing with them.

Wasnt near the Imperial thank god.Was chatting a few of them Saturday and Sunday and they all were fairly subdued.I certainly wouldnt begrudge them a few pints.

The club Championships will go ahead 2 weeks after Cavan are eliminated from the Qualifiers.
Boojangles could you confirm that this is 100% accurate about the club championships? If we were beaten on Saturday week and the club championship started two weeks later do you know what would be on the weekend in between as that is the date scheduled for the next round of club championships game per the master list? Appreciate if you could clear that up, thanks.

Cavan play July 11th.so 2 weeks from that if we lose.if we win 2 weeks from the 18th.If we win on the 18th then 2 weeks from the 25th or so on.

This is definitely the case,got the text from the one man who is always in the know in my club,he is our County Board delegate also.I would take it as gospel. They have changed from the Master Fixtures already as far as I know. I presume there would be nothing on the weekend in between to give the County players a chance to get back in with their clubs.
Cheers. ;D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on July 01, 2009, 10:12:19 AM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on June 30, 2009, 08:49:16 PM
The important thing is to learn and react well to this. We really need to go out next day, be up for it and go hard from start to finish. Make some personel changes if neccessary but for f**k sake lets be up for the bloody match! I won't give up all hope just yet even if thats what I felt like on Saturday.

Learn i dont think they will learn much.  Not capable of playing well for two games in a row by the look of things.  They have carried the league form into the championship. 

In other posts i see that people are saying that Galligan is the best of what we have for midfield.  How is this true because he isnt consistant with Drung and often comes out second best as he did against Baileboro in club championship.   
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on July 01, 2009, 11:17:19 AM
Quote from: RednBlack on July 01, 2009, 01:07:09 AM
Quote from: put-it-up on June 30, 2009, 01:54:46 PM
Jaysus I would not begrudge any of them pints at all. I cant stand people criticising players having a few jars after a game.

Just heard a story involving a current players and a former player, having a little bit of handbags!

What date will the club championship be back roughly?
would that be the famous Ronan O'Gara ex midfielder rubbing it Cavan players faces that they could have done with him on Saturday night?? I believe the response was maybe we could but you were the one who walked out. What a p***k. Had so much respect for the man as a footballer but he should learn to f**k off gracefully and tarnish the memories.

Cannot believe that.That is some joke.From looking at him a few weeks ago in Breifni Park,he wouldnt have made any difference.
We just don't have midfielders in the County and at the moment I cant think of anybody who would do much better than Galligan
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Drung on July 01, 2009, 11:28:13 AM
Whoa.
McCabe has been scoring pressure frees for Cavan for years - if he was playing he would have slotted those couple that Martin Reilly missed. He can deliver inch perfect 60 metre passes into space (anyone see the ball he gave Pearson v Cuchullains?) - Walsh punts the ball like a rugby player.
Overall, for all his faults, McCabe is a leader. Cavan have very few.
I know he's supposed to be mouthy etc but he's still by far the best midfielder in the county. And he as balls, which a lot of Cavan players lack.
We don't know what went on behind the scenes but it's a sad day when a player like Dermot McCabe is in the stands watching while Cavan turn in one of the worst midfield performances we've seen.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on July 01, 2009, 11:34:29 AM
Quote from: Drung on July 01, 2009, 11:28:13 AM
Whoa.
McCabe has been scoring pressure frees for Cavan for years - if he was playing he would have slotted those couple that Martin Reilly missed. He can deliver inch perfect 60 metre passes into space (anyone see the ball he gave Pearson v Cuchullains?) - Walsh punts the ball like a rugby player.
Overall, for all his faults, McCabe is a leader. Cavan have very few.
I know he's supposed to be mouthy etc but he's still by far the best midfielder in the county. And he as balls, which a lot of Cavan players lack.
We don't know what went on behind the scenes but it's a sad day when a player like Dermot McCabe is in the stands watching while Cavan turn in one of the worst midfield performances we've seen.
I agree with the positives that he would bring to the game as you pointed out there but to attribute balls to anybody who mouths off in a nite club about what he could have offered is a bit wide of the mark.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on July 01, 2009, 11:37:44 AM
Quote from: Lawrence of Knockbride on July 01, 2009, 11:34:29 AM
Quote from: Drung on July 01, 2009, 11:28:13 AM
Whoa.
McCabe has been scoring pressure frees for Cavan for years - if he was playing he would have slotted those couple that Martin Reilly missed. He can deliver inch perfect 60 metre passes into space (anyone see the ball he gave Pearson v Cuchullains?) - Walsh punts the ball like a rugby player.
Overall, for all his faults, McCabe is a leader. Cavan have very few.
I know he's supposed to be mouthy etc but he's still by far the best midfielder in the county. And he as balls, which a lot of Cavan players lack.
We don't know what went on behind the scenes but it's a sad day when a player like Dermot McCabe is in the stands watching while Cavan turn in one of the worst midfield performances we've seen.
I agree with the positives that he would bring to the game as you pointed out there but to attribute balls to anybody who mouths off in a nite club about what he could have offered is a bit wide of the mark.

It was wrong of him to mouth off at players in a pub but if the players had of had any brains they wouldnt have gone near that place.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on July 01, 2009, 01:02:22 PM
Quote from: Drung on July 01, 2009, 11:28:13 AM
Whoa.
McCabe has been scoring pressure frees for Cavan for years - if he was playing he would have slotted those couple that Martin Reilly missed. He can deliver inch perfect 60 metre passes into space (anyone see the ball he gave Pearson v Cuchullains?) - Walsh punts the ball like a rugby player.
Overall, for all his faults, McCabe is a leader. Cavan have very few.
I know he's supposed to be mouthy etc but he's still by far the best midfielder in the county. And he as balls, which a lot of Cavan players lack.
We don't know what went on behind the scenes but it's a sad day when a player like Dermot McCabe is in the stands watching while Cavan turn in one of the worst midfield performances we've seen.

Note the Important word in all that-IF. He wasnt there,he made his mind up he didnt want to be there,so your ramblings about what he would have done are immaterial. I seen him give a few fine passes to Pierson against Cuchulainns-yes.That was in a club championship game played at a lethargic pace.If you think McCabe or anybody else for that matter could have got enough time on the ball to pick out inch perfect passes in Clones on Saturday,your dreaming.Dermot McCabe has been a superb servant for Cavan but HE forced the issue and made it clear he didnt want it any more.Now please can we move on.

Cavan4Ever No disrespect to you but your negativity towards the players is totally uncalled for. RedNBlack made the point that until we sort out the Coaching system in the county and start producing Winning underage teams we may forget about winning at Senior level. We are all at fault for this. Instead of bitching about our Senior players,get out and do something that may improve the standard of football in your local area.
We are so far behind in terms of Coaching and even in terms of people wanting to help out at Club level in this county,its no wonder we have been a failure since the 1960s. There is so much wrong in this county from County Board level down to Club level. For years Selectors being picked for County teams not for what they have achieved with their clubs or what coaching experience they have, but because they are Yes men. Jobs for the Boys.
People in Cavan still expect things to happen,instead of making it happen. Like it or not but the only club in Cavan who have done something about it are Cavan Gaels,hence dominating Cavan football for the last decade. Iv seen it in my own club.Massive effort put in by the same individuals with one or two Age groups.It pays dividends but its the other age groups that are neglected and therefore it is hard to keep a constant conveyor belt of talent coming along like the Gaels have done. Fair enough they have got an advantage in terms of numbers but the hard work still has to be put in with 7 and 8 year olds no matter what.
Things are moving slowly in the right direction but its up to individuals in every club in Cavan to put it right.Until then we are going nowhere and the best we can hope for is a once off Ulster win every 20 years or so.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on July 01, 2009, 01:53:14 PM
Quote from: boojangles on July 01, 2009, 01:02:22 PM



Cavan4Ever No disrespect to you but your negativity towards the players is totally uncalled for. RedNBlack made the point that until we sort out the Coaching system in the county and start producing Winning underage teams we may forget about winning at Senior level. We are all at fault for this. Instead of bitching about our Senior players,get out and do something that may improve the standard of football in your local area.
We are so far behind in terms of Coaching and even in terms of people wanting to help out at Club level in this county,its no wonder we have been a failure since the 1960s. There is so much wrong in this county from County Board level down to Club level. For years Selectors being picked for County teams not for what they have achieved with their clubs or what coaching experience they have, but because they are Yes men. Jobs for the Boys.
People in Cavan still expect things to happen,instead of making it happen. Like it or not but the only club in Cavan who have done something about it are Cavan Gaels,hence dominating Cavan football for the last decade. Iv seen it in my own club.Massive effort put in by the same individuals with one or two Age groups.It pays dividends but its the other age groups that are neglected and therefore it is hard to keep a constant conveyor belt of talent coming along like the Gaels have done. Fair enough they have got an advantage in terms of numbers but the hard work still has to be put in with 7 and 8 year olds no matter what.
Things are moving slowly in the right direction but its up to individuals in every club in Cavan to put it right.Until then we are going nowhere and the best we can hope for is a once off Ulster win every 20 years or so.

So i should say that they did their best better luck next time.   

Can we not critise players on the Cavan Thread on GAABOARD.com ?



Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Bongo on July 01, 2009, 01:54:18 PM
I am extremely disappointed with the performance on saturday. Everything I have been thinking has already been said by one or other of you over the past few days, so I won't repeat it.

I totally agree that the problem with our senior teams is a result of poor underage coaching throughout the county. The sad fact is that the current players on the panel are the best that are available. The only solution is to start at the bottom and work our way up and hopefully produce a crop of good players who are able to compete in 10 to 15 years time. Maybe sooner if we were lucky.

So, here is a mad idea that just occured to me, let me know what yis think!........

There are several GAA players throughout the county at present who, due to the construction industry collapse and general recession, have become unemployed recently. The GAA is a community in itself and should therefore be striving to look after it's own. I believe that this is the perfect opportunity for the county board to get of it's ass and create some employment for these guys.

I suggest that the county board put together a team of about 20/30 coaches, drawn from currently unemployed playing members from all over the county. They should be provided with tuition on how to coach the game to youngsters and then deployed to each club. In this manner the county board can promote a unique "cavan" style of football within each club. Each team will then be singing from the same hymn sheet and in a few years time we would have a good crop of young players, all with a similar background, from which to select our county panel.

It would create a win/win situation for everyone involved.
Unemployed lads would be provided a job
Underage teams, county wide, would get excellant coaching
This would improve the overall standard of the game in the county
The county board would have created something very special
And best of all we would have a decent supply of players for selection to the senior county teams

I really am convinced that this is the best way forward for all........ I must send the idea to the county board!!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on July 01, 2009, 02:03:41 PM
Cavan County Board have being involed in coaching some of these players for over 10 years so i dont know how they will try and coach them how to coach kids  :D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on July 01, 2009, 03:02:37 PM
Quote from: cavan4ever on July 01, 2009, 02:03:41 PM
Cavan County Board have being involed in coaching some of these players for over 10 years so i dont know how they will try and coach them how to coach kids  :D


Would you have any proposals to improve or modify Bongo's suggestion?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on July 01, 2009, 03:09:50 PM
Quote from: anglocelt39 on July 01, 2009, 03:02:37 PM
Quote from: cavan4ever on July 01, 2009, 02:03:41 PM
Cavan County Board have being involed in coaching some of these players for over 10 years so i dont know how they will try and coach them how to coach kids  :D


Would you have any proposals to improve or modify Bongo's suggestion?

I would have them go into the schools.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on July 01, 2009, 03:21:52 PM
Quote from: cavan4ever on July 01, 2009, 01:53:14 PM
Quote from: boojangles on July 01, 2009, 01:02:22 PM



Cavan4Ever No disrespect to you but your negativity towards the players is totally uncalled for. RedNBlack made the point that until we sort out the Coaching system in the county and start producing Winning underage teams we may forget about winning at Senior level. We are all at fault for this. Instead of bitching about our Senior players,get out and do something that may improve the standard of football in your local area.
We are so far behind in terms of Coaching and even in terms of people wanting to help out at Club level in this county,its no wonder we have been a failure since the 1960s. There is so much wrong in this county from County Board level down to Club level. For years Selectors being picked for County teams not for what they have achieved with their clubs or what coaching experience they have, but because they are Yes men. Jobs for the Boys.
People in Cavan still expect things to happen,instead of making it happen. Like it or not but the only club in Cavan who have done something about it are Cavan Gaels,hence dominating Cavan football for the last decade. Iv seen it in my own club.Massive effort put in by the same individuals with one or two Age groups.It pays dividends but its the other age groups that are neglected and therefore it is hard to keep a constant conveyor belt of talent coming along like the Gaels have done. Fair enough they have got an advantage in terms of numbers but the hard work still has to be put in with 7 and 8 year olds no matter what.
Things are moving slowly in the right direction but its up to individuals in every club in Cavan to put it right.Until then we are going nowhere and the best we can hope for is a once off Ulster win every 20 years or so.

So i should say that they did their best better luck next time.   

Can we not critise players on the Cavan Thread on GAABOARD.com ?



Criticise all you want but some of the points you made are more than plain criticism. Ronan Flanagan has been one of Cavans most consistent players over the last few years-yet you reckon he plays one good game followed by 3 bad.Totally wrong. Ronan along with Cullivan and Mackey are 21-22,surely they should be given time before we expect them to be the Heart of out team.IMO they are the 3 brightest footballers we have emerging in Cavan.I know that Cullivan and Flanagan dedicate most of their spare time to make themselves better footballers,they deserve more than having somebody behind a computer making little of their efforts.
You say Eugene Keating should learn some manners and respect and go play with his club.He is playing with his club and I wouldnt mind hearing your reasons again why he should learn respect? Do you know something the rest of us don't about Keating?
You mention about Galligan your club mate not being consistent enough and with that I probably agree-But name a few names that you think would be an improvement for Cavan?? Because I cant. Well sorry I can but he is no longer playing in Cavan.
You reckon that the Cavan players should know better than to go to a Cavan nite club the night of a game? As if they should know that they will be ridiculed by former greats. I don't know exactly who was involved or what happened but lets be honest- who should really know better?
We are all sickened and disappointed by what happened Saturday evening but lets not lose the run of ourselves in our criticism.

Bongo,great Idea but TBH I cant see the County Board giving the go-ahead.They have a number of Full-Time coaches(some of whom are excellent) looking after all areas of the County at schools level,I cant see them paying out more money on top of whats already being committed.But its definitely worth a shot. It may involve a motion being passed at Convention.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Drung on July 01, 2009, 03:39:41 PM
To be fair to Dermot McCabe, there are two sides to every story and I have heard it said that McCabe was both sinned against and sinning. I have heard the management was in the wrong and that McCabe was in the wrong, and my gut feeling is that it was a bit of both.

Sad though. McCabe is still class. He showed in his caemo against Louth in the last league match that he's still a quality player.
By the way, I said McCabe had balls for his temperament and nerve in big games over 14 years in the senior jersey, not for some hearsay on this message board about what he might have said in a pub.

I remember giving out about McCabe about three years ago and a fella said to me "he won't be properly appreciate till he's gone". Prophetic words when you look at last Saturday.
Cavan weren't destroyed at midfield like that when McCabe was there as far as I recall. Plus, he was worth a couple of points from frees, line balls and even play, and gave us an option of a target man on the square.

Hopefully for the good of the county team we'll have our best 15 out next season.

I would also like to see some new teams reach the latter stages of the championship eg Kingscourt, Castlerahan to get a look at more players. This thing of "county U16=county minor=county senior three years later" is nonsense.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on July 01, 2009, 03:43:59 PM
QuoteCriticise all you want but some of the points you made are more than plain criticism. Ronan Flanagan has been one of Cavans most consistent players over the last few years-yet you reckon he plays one good game followed by 3 bad.Totally wrong. Ronan along with Cullivan and Mackey are 21-22,surely they should be given time before we expect them to be the Heart of out team

I stand over my point about Mackey and Cullivan.  Flanagan is more consitant than the rest of them.   Keating has gone back to play with his club isnt he great, he didnt show them much respect to his team mates and parish earlier in the year by walking out on them.

QuoteYou mention about Galligan your club mate not being consistent enough and with that I probably agree-But name a few names that you think would be an improvement for Cavan?? Because I cant. Well sorry I can but he is no longer playing in Cavan.

Mick McDonald, Dermot McCabe  :P

QuoteYou reckon that the Cavan players should know better than to go to a Cavan nite club the night of a game? As if they should know that they will be ridiculed by former greats. I don't know exactly who was involved or what happened but lets be honest- who should really know better?
nite club?



Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on July 01, 2009, 04:15:45 PM
Have to disagree on Mick McDonald C4ever, he was very good against what was a poor Antrim team last year,But was absolutely destroyed by Paul McGrane against Armagh.
Dermot McCabe and to a lesser extent Pierce McKenna have been our only consistent midfielders over the past 10 years.
Barry Mac had a terrific year in 2001,but left the county scene very soon after.

Re your point on Cullivan,Mackey,Flanagan,

Flanagan is suffering from his constant moving between the half back and half forward line,
Hes an extremely naturally talented footballer,who if given one position to hold down,will go on and lead this team for the next 10 years.

Antrim had their homework done on Mackey, Against Fermanagh,The Fermanagh backs let him go at times and didnt follow him,and he caused havoc with his ball carrying abilities.
Antrim put Loughrey on him who matched him in pace and who also attacked which led to Mackey spending alot of time chasing his man down the field.
He has been one of the most consistent players over the league and championship this year for me.

Ray missed over a month of training,He hadnt trained in weeks prior to the Louth game,He played well against Fermanagh even though he wasnt close to full fitness,yet he can and will play far better than he did in that game. Anyone knows that if you miss a month of hard training it sets you back a sight, If Cavan can win a game or two in the qualifiers,Then you would see Ray at his best in my opinion.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on July 01, 2009, 04:27:50 PM
C4E just reading some of your posts there brings to mind how often at GAA matches at all levels there's the guy outside the white lines who's giving out the pay on all and sundry that's going on on the pitch, it's only a matter of time before the oft used but still enjoyable retort is heard.........."if ye were any use yid be playin"
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on July 01, 2009, 04:31:14 PM
Quote from: anglocelt39 on July 01, 2009, 04:27:50 PM
C4E just reading some of your posts there brings to mind how often at GAA matches at all levels there's the guy outside the white lines who's giving out the pay on all and sundry that's going on on the pitch, it's only a matter of time before the oft used but still enjoyable retort is heard.........."if ye were any use yid be playin"

Did it look good on the widescreen?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on July 01, 2009, 04:39:12 PM
Quote from: Drung on July 01, 2009, 03:39:41 PM


I would also like to see some new teams reach the latter stages of the championship eg Kingscourt, Castlerahan to get a look at more players. This thing of "county U16=county minor=county senior three years later" is nonsense.

That is a sensible post.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on July 01, 2009, 05:29:44 PM
Quote from: cavan4ever on July 01, 2009, 04:39:12 PM
Quote from: Drung on July 01, 2009, 03:39:41 PM


I would also like to see some new teams reach the latter stages of the championship eg Kingscourt, Castlerahan to get a look at more players. This thing of "county U16=county minor=county senior three years later" is nonsense.

That is a sensible post.
I agree. Made more or less the same point myself a while back. Cavan has a very very bad habit of continuing with players on County teams basically because they made a name for themselves 3 or 4 years ago and even though it is clear to all that they are no longer cutting it, for some reason or another they are still picked. We all know who Im talking about.Cavan had 3 players that fall into this category IMO starting on Saturday. Its not the players fault.Its the people over the team who are picking these players and giving them umpteen chances.
We also have a bad habit with picking Young lads coming through from Minor or U-21 when if they bothered their arse going out and watching Club games they would find lads who are more than capable of making the breakthrough if given the same chances.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on July 01, 2009, 05:48:56 PM
Quote from: RednBlack on July 01, 2009, 05:34:59 PM
Quote from: cavan4ever on July 01, 2009, 03:09:50 PM
Quote from: anglocelt39 on July 01, 2009, 03:02:37 PM
Quote from: cavan4ever on July 01, 2009, 02:03:41 PM
Cavan County Board have being involed in coaching some of these players for over 10 years so i dont know how they will try and coach them how to coach kids  :D


Would you have any proposals to improve or modify Bongo's suggestion?

I would have them go into the schools.
All primary schools have access to GAA Coaching so this area is covered. The clubs are the key. Coaches working in schools have access to all the children but like any PE class there will be a large portion with no interest in or will ever play GAA. Its better to take the opportunity of getting than not as you can be sure if the GAA pull out the FAI will fly in after them and are already trying to squeeze out the GAA.

Every club needs to stand back and totally re-evaluate their coaching structures.

How many of your current underage coaches have completed the introduction course to coaching and the Child Protection part?
How many are coaching and allowed coach a)because they are a parent or b) sure he was a great player in his day
I fully understand how hard it is to get people involved but a lot of the time parents are nervous to put themselves forward if new to the area or if a dominant figure is doing it his way because he has been doing it for years.

Go and watch your Under 8 and 10s train and see what they are doing. Is it focused on Agility and Coordination or are they playing 15 a side games with 10 subs looking on. Go and look at other counties websites to see how far their underage boards have progressed. In fairness the full time coaches in Cavan are pushing this but they lack support form the clubs and the attendances on courses is dismal. The Ulster Coaching Conference this year attracted 463 coaches from all over the province. 6 attended from Cavan. 93 from Tyrone. Are we really that far ahead that none of our coaches have a need for education?

Have a read below as to what is laid out in the National Strategic Plan and see if your club fits the criteria or will be able to? The unwritten bit is that all coaches will have the Introduction course as a minimum qualification. This is all available from the GAA website or the Ulster Council site.

               Year Children (aged under 12)                                   Youths Age (aged 13-18)
2010         'Award 1' coach: one per team.                                       'Award 1' coach: one per team.
2011         'Award 1' coach: two per team                                        'Award 1' coach: two per team.
2012         All coaches to have achieved 'Award 1' level.                      All coaches to have achieved 'Award 1' level.
               Each club/school to have one 'Award 2' coach.                   Each club/school to have one 'Award 2' coach.
2015         Each club/school to have two 'Award 2' coaches.                Each club/school to have two 'Award 2' coaches.
               Each club/school to have one 'Award 3' coach.                   Each club/school to have one 'Award 3' coach.

As Mr Pain would say rant over but I would implore all GAA loving members to get involved with their clubs at grassroots, become a coach and get the building blocks right. This process of directed and proper coaching got started in Tyrone circa 1993 or so and did not breed success overnight. We have to start somewhere to make a change.

You mention the Introduction Course-I presume thats the Foundation Level course?
Also Award 1-is that the same as Level 1 and so on?
There are a good few with the Foundation done in my club including myself. There are 3 or 4 with the Level 1 done.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on July 01, 2009, 08:56:10 PM
The debate about training at club underage is still raging I see. When I was a young lad of around 23/24 playing a bit of senior football with Killeshandra I was asked to train our U12's and U13 teams. I was asked because I played a bit of ball, had an interest in the club and mainly because no "adult/parent" could be arsed volunteering. No one mentioned anything about training courses to me at the time and I had no clue how you'd even go about getting on one. I did have a mate at the time who had done some courses when he was based in Dublin. I remember borrowing some training books from his course and inviting him to take a few sessions to see what the done thing was back then. I found them good and so did the young lads. We asked the same guy to share some of his training drills with some of the U14, U16, minor coaches and called a session to do that. 50% bothered to come and of that most of them just chatted and paid no heed - they knew it all. That year I remember a very prominent member of Killeshandra club telling me that the U12 team I was taking were no addition and would do well to win a game. Instead that team were the 1st underage team in aound 10 yrs in the club to contest a county final and included Declan McKiernan, Thomais Reilly, Daragh Tighe and Patrick King. The back bone of the current senior team. I put that down to the training methods we used. The point I am reaffirming is that underage training methods is incredibly important. About time all clubs recognised that.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on July 01, 2009, 10:41:53 PM
Quote from: REDCOL on July 01, 2009, 07:32:19 PM
G Pierson gone now.


Explain please?

Killeshandra beat Knockbride tonight-Knockbride effectively out of the running for promotion. They were 6 ahead and lost by 3. Larry spent most of the game looking for frees. Peter played well but lost the rag with the umpire and behaved disgracefully if I'm honest. Declan McKiernan absoloutely destroyed Tierney fielding-wise at midfield. I see two of our board members were going head-to-head tonight with Boojangles coming out on top.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on July 01, 2009, 10:44:38 PM
Quote from: Lawrence of Knockbride on July 01, 2009, 10:41:53 PM
Quote from: REDCOL on July 01, 2009, 07:32:19 PM
G Pierson gone now.


Explain please?

Yeah when you go to bother of posting you may aswell tell the whole story.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on July 01, 2009, 10:54:44 PM
Quote from: Lawrence of Knockbride on July 01, 2009, 10:41:53 PM
Quote from: REDCOL on July 01, 2009, 07:32:19 PM
G Pierson gone now.


Explain please?

Killeshandra beat Knockbride tonight-Knockbride effectively out of the running for promotion. They were 6 ahead and lost by 3. Larry spent most of the game looking for frees. Peter played well but lost the rag with the umpire and behaved disgracefully if I'm honest. Declan McKiernan absoloutely destroyed Tierney fielding-wise at midfield. I see two of our board members were going head-to-head tonight with Boojangles coming out on top.


What?? Badly misinformed Lawrence-Ballyhaise kicked us off the field,winning 3-7 to 0-7.Game was on 25 minutes before we realised we were in a game.Too late because we were 1-6 to 0-0 down.Ballyhaise should have won by 20 points.

Whats this about Pierson??
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on July 01, 2009, 10:56:35 PM
Shit had the right scoreline but the wrong way around.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: trim blue on July 01, 2009, 11:57:41 PM
Boojangles good stuff about under age there, on a more optimistic note I was down with our Trim Under 10's at a blitz in Navan before heading to Clones and Laragh and Baileboro had teams in it, Baileboro in particular ran rings round us and it was obvious that great time was being put into them as their basic ball skills, agility, balance, teamwork were really impressive. Having said that the point about under age is that from what I can see even though Under 10 has no competition their is still more focus on games and winning which ends up being at the expense of developing the basic skills during planned training. I know one of the other problems in Trim, and I'm sure its the same at home, is that the primary schools are doing less football as teachers are not in a position or won't give the amount of time needed as was the case in the past ( the auld priests and Christian Bros were good for something) and the involvement of the schools is crucial in giving kids a grounding in the basics as it can't be left to the clubs alone who only have them for a couple of months of the year anyway.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on July 02, 2009, 12:00:14 AM
Quote from: boojangles on July 01, 2009, 10:54:44 PM
Quote from: Lawrence of Knockbride on July 01, 2009, 10:41:53 PM
Quote from: REDCOL on July 01, 2009, 07:32:19 PM
G Pierson gone now.


Explain please?

Killeshandra beat Knockbride tonight-Knockbride effectively out of the running for promotion. They were 6 ahead and lost by 3. Larry spent most of the game looking for frees. Peter played well but lost the rag with the umpire and behaved disgracefully if I'm honest. Declan McKiernan absoloutely destroyed Tierney fielding-wise at midfield. I see two of our board members were going head-to-head tonight with Boojangles coming out on top.


What?? Badly misinformed Lawrence-Ballyhaise kicked us off the field,winning 3-7 to 0-7.Game was on 25 minutes before we realised we were in a game.Too late because we were 1-6 to 0-0 down.Ballyhaise should have won by 20 points.

Whats this about Pierson??

i wouldnt say that boojangles, we dominated the first half,but you lads  won the second half and in my opinion only Eamon got two good goals we would have been in trouble, You had a good game yourself especially in the second half  ;)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on July 02, 2009, 12:02:12 AM
Quote from: Lawrence of Knockbride on July 01, 2009, 10:41:53 PM
Quote from: REDCOL on July 01, 2009, 07:32:19 PM
G Pierson gone now.


Explain please?

Killeshandra beat Knockbride tonight-Knockbride effectively out of the running for promotion. They were 6 ahead and lost by 3. Larry spent most of the game looking for frees. Peter played well but lost the rag with the umpire and behaved disgracefully if I'm honest. Declan McKiernan absoloutely destroyed Tierney fielding-wise at midfield. I see two of our board members were going head-to-head tonight with Boojangles coming out on top.
How is Tierney performing Lawrence, i know he was on the Cavan Juniors but Is he fit,does he have the weight off? im suprised to hear McKiernan roasting him,as while McKiernan is a good player,John Tierney when on form is as good a fielder and player as anyone in the county.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on July 02, 2009, 12:22:02 AM
Quote from: trim blue on July 01, 2009, 11:57:41 PM
Boojangles good stuff about under age there, on a more optimistic note I was down with our Trim Under 10's at a blitz in Navan before heading to Clones and Laragh and Baileboro had teams in it, Baileboro in particular ran rings round us and it was obvious that great time was being put into them as their basic ball skills, agility, balance, teamwork were really impressive. Having said that the point about under age is that from what I can see even though Under 10 has no competition their is still more focus on games and winning which ends up being at the expense of developing the basic skills during planned training. I know one of the other problems in Trim, and I'm sure its the same at home, is that the primary schools are doing less football as teachers are not in a position or won't give the amount of time needed as was the case in the past ( the auld priests and Christian Bros were good for something) and the involvement of the schools is crucial in giving kids a grounding in the basics as it can't be left to the clubs alone who only have them for a couple of months of the year anyway.

Thats definitely true.Gaelic isnt near as big in schools anymore and teachers aren't in a position to coach it in most cases.Myself and the brother were doing a bit of Coaching in my clubs only real school for the last few months and it was the only bit of Gaelic coaching they had got in a few years. In my day in National school nearly everybody played with some club-nowadays Id say only about a third of schoolkids in some schools play Gaelic with a club.Soccer and Rugby are becoming more and more of a an attractive option for kids to play.
Not suprised to hear about Laragh or Bailieboro-Bailieboro are always traditionally strong at Underage while Laragh have really started to improve themselves in the last number of years.They obviously badly neglected things there for a while but good to see a big parish with a winning tradition coming back.

BH Man yous must have kicked 10 wides in the first half and although we had lots of possession in the 2nd,you's always looked like scoring when attacking. Cullivan gave an exhibition of fielding in the 2nd half.Was good battle with him and Peggy in 2nd half but its hard to match Rays power in the air.
I did OK,Im slowly getting back to myself.A fair bit to go yet though.Were you playing yourself,or ya still leaving me guessing? ;) ;)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on July 02, 2009, 12:28:27 AM
Quote from: boojangles on July 02, 2009, 12:22:02 AM
Quote from: trim blue on July 01, 2009, 11:57:41 PM
Boojangles good stuff about under age there, on a more optimistic note I was down with our Trim Under 10's at a blitz in Navan before heading to Clones and Laragh and Baileboro had teams in it, Baileboro in particular ran rings round us and it was obvious that great time was being put into them as their basic ball skills, agility, balance, teamwork were really impressive. Having said that the point about under age is that from what I can see even though Under 10 has no competition their is still more focus on games and winning which ends up being at the expense of developing the basic skills during planned training. I know one of the other problems in Trim, and I'm sure its the same at home, is that the primary schools are doing less football as teachers are not in a position or won't give the amount of time needed as was the case in the past ( the auld priests and Christian Bros were good for something) and the involvement of the schools is crucial in giving kids a grounding in the basics as it can't be left to the clubs alone who only have them for a couple of months of the year anyway.

Thats definitely true.Gaelic isnt near as big in schools anymore and teachers aren't in a position to coach it in most cases.Myself and the brother were doing a bit of Coaching in my clubs only real school for the last few months and it was the only bit of Gaelic coaching they had got in a few years. In my day in National school nearly everybody played with some club-nowadays Id say only about a third of schoolkids in some schools play Gaelic with a club.Soccer and Rugby are becoming more and more of a an attractive option for kids to play.
Not suprised to hear about Laragh or Bailieboro-Bailieboro are always traditionally strong at Underage while Laragh have really started to improve themselves in the last number of years.They obviously badly neglected things there for a while but good to see a big parish with a winning tradition coming back.

BH Man yous must have kicked 10 wides in the first half and although we had lots of possession in the 2nd,you's always looked like scoring when attacking. Cullivan gave an exhibition of fielding in the 2nd half.Was good battle with him and Peggy in 2nd half but its hard to match Rays power in the air.
I did OK,Im slowly getting back to myself.A fair bit to go yet though.Were you playing yourself,or ya still leaving me guessing? ;) ;)


No Comment  :P, were you asking McGowan was he BallyhaiseMan on GAABOARD when you were "walking into him"  :D
you really regret leaving your email showing now dont ya?  ;D
dont be worrying Boojangles,i wouldnt know ya that well other than say hello if i met you walking down the street!!!
Im not who you think i am!!!
Ray was terrific as was Eamon and Baz Kelly, anyway that was only the warm up game for the Real Match in Killygarry in a few weeks, time. Sure you lot are crafty feckers, probably trying to lull us into a false sense of security.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on July 02, 2009, 10:43:35 AM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on July 02, 2009, 12:02:12 AM
Quote from: Lawrence of Knockbride on July 01, 2009, 10:41:53 PM
Quote from: REDCOL on July 01, 2009, 07:32:19 PM
G Pierson gone now.


Explain please?

Killeshandra beat Knockbride tonight-Knockbride effectively out of the running for promotion. They were 6 ahead and lost by 3. Larry spent most of the game looking for frees. Peter played well but lost the rag with the umpire and behaved disgracefully if I'm honest. Declan McKiernan absoloutely destroyed Tierney fielding-wise at midfield. I see two of our board members were going head-to-head tonight with Boojangles coming out on top.
How is Tierney performing Lawrence, i know he was on the Cavan Juniors but Is he fit,does he have the weight off? im suprised to hear McKiernan roasting him,as while McKiernan is a good player,John Tierney when on form is as good a fielder and player as anyone in the county.
Tierney scored a goal in the first half. He started the move with a great run from inside his own half and was on hand to finish a bit of a scrap in the box. I was very surprised at his speed. But truly McKiernan won about 10 clean kickouts, and I mean cleanly caught, contested and never getting bottled up when he came down with it. If he had a little more pace he'd be a serious prospect. As it is I'd have him in the county. I know he turned down the offer from TC to concentrate on college but now myabe his exams are finished he may be tempted back. He kicked over two savage frees too. One with the outside of the boot from the 45 and the other from the sideline on the 20 metre line in the last minute.
Tierney faded badly in the second half and the younger fitter team ran through them.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Drung on July 02, 2009, 12:42:28 PM
Quotenowadays Id say only about a third of schoolkids in some schools play Gaelic with a club.

Maybe that's the case in towns such as Cavan Town Boojangles but in my experience football is as popular as ever in the rural National Schools. In Bunnoe and Drung for example, all the boys play that I know of.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on July 02, 2009, 03:28:11 PM
Quote from: Drung on July 02, 2009, 12:42:28 PM
Quotenowadays Id say only about a third of schoolkids in some schools play Gaelic with a club.

Maybe that's the case in towns such as Cavan Town Boojangles but in my experience football is as popular as ever in the rural National Schools. In Bunnoe and Drung for example, all the boys play that I know of.

Drung N.S is a soccer school. 
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on July 02, 2009, 05:34:32 PM
Watched a bit of the game online there, will i be shot for saying it wasnt quiet as bad as i though from being at the game  :P. 

Though Galligan played good enough and that if Martin Reilly had of kicked them early frees we could have won.  Any more on this Walsh story with discolated shoulder, i didnt see it but didnt watch it all.

The passing at time though  :(
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on July 02, 2009, 06:49:41 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on July 02, 2009, 12:28:27 AM

No Comment  :P, were you asking McGowan was he BallyhaiseMan on GAABOARD when you were "walking into him"  :D
you really regret leaving your email showing now dont ya?  ;D
dont be worrying Boojangles,i wouldnt know ya that well other than say hello if i met you walking down the street!!!
Im not who you think i am!!!
Ray was terrific as was Eamon and Baz Kelly, anyway that was only the warm up game for the Real Match in Killygarry in a few weeks, time. Sure you lot are crafty feckers, probably trying to lull us into a false sense of security.

Ah I was only saying hello back to Ciaran after he greeted me!
Im hardly gonna announce my identity on here but I dont really give a f**k to be honest,as Iv said before it wouldnt be too hard to make out who I am.
Yous had some fine performances alright,and going on yesterday we have alot of catching up to do.You's are in serious shape too.
That game should be played in Breifne Park,in 2005 we produced probably the game of the year there.But we'l settle for Killygarry.

Heard today that Lyng has left the County also. The Gaels are heading away for the weekend to Mayo and Lyng is heading. He scored 1-3 against Redhills last nite.
Any other scores from League games played last nite?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on July 02, 2009, 07:07:08 PM
Quote from: boojangles on June 18, 2009, 02:23:32 PM

--Boojangles does not think Micky Lyng is 'trading on his name' and thinks that we will see the best of him shortly
--Boojangles knows that Cavan has not seen near the best of Gerald Pierson in a while but feels that the time is getting close

If reports are correct thats 2 Fingers up to Boojangles and what he thinks anyway.

REDCOL can you confirm anything on Pierson?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on July 02, 2009, 07:09:17 PM
Quote from: boojangles on July 02, 2009, 07:07:08 PM
Quote from: boojangles on June 18, 2009, 02:23:32 PM

--Boojangles does not think Micky Lyng is 'trading on his name' and thinks that we will see the best of him shortly
--Boojangles knows that Cavan has not seen near the best of Gerald Pierson in a while but feels that the time is getting close

If reports are correct thats 2 Fingers up to Boojangles and what he thinks anyway.

REDCOL can you confirm anything on Pierson?

TC seems to like pissing off our big name players.  The McCabe stories and now Lyng and Pierson supposed to be gone.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on July 02, 2009, 07:18:43 PM
Quote from: cavan4ever on July 02, 2009, 07:09:17 PM
Quote from: boojangles on July 02, 2009, 07:07:08 PM
Quote from: boojangles on June 18, 2009, 02:23:32 PM

--Boojangles does not think Micky Lyng is 'trading on his name' and thinks that we will see the best of him shortly
--Boojangles knows that Cavan has not seen near the best of Gerald Pierson in a while but feels that the time is getting close

If reports are correct thats 2 Fingers up to Boojangles and what he thinks anyway.

REDCOL can you confirm anything on Pierson?

TC seems to like pissing off our big name players.  The McCabe stories and now Lyng and Pierson supposed to be gone.

Ah I just don't know what to think anymore.Nothing would amaze me anymore when it comes to this county. Like surely after Keating was moved from Centre Back and then to Centre Forward,surely Lyng should have replaced him then?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on July 02, 2009, 07:32:58 PM
Quote from: cavan4ever on July 02, 2009, 07:09:17 PM
Quote from: boojangles on July 02, 2009, 07:07:08 PM
Quote from: boojangles on June 18, 2009, 02:23:32 PM

--Boojangles does not think Micky Lyng is 'trading on his name' and thinks that we will see the best of him shortly
--Boojangles knows that Cavan has not seen near the best of Gerald Pierson in a while but feels that the time is getting close

If reports are correct thats 2 Fingers up to Boojangles and what he thinks anyway.

REDCOL can you confirm anything on Pierson?

TC seems to like pissing off our big name players.  The McCabe stories and now Lyng and Pierson supposed to be gone.
You could be right C4E or maybe we're just re-living the days of Liam Austin. Still, Lyng and Pierson have serious potential  ;)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on July 02, 2009, 07:37:39 PM
I'm beginning to worry about Carr to be honest... Apparently he said at half time that Galligan was carrying them out there and yes Galligan was definitely the better of the two mid fielders but carrying them?

And then he told John McCutcheon all along that he wouldn't be playing in the full back line - fair enough thinking, John has never played in the full back line - then 2 minutes before the start of the the game he tells him he is in the corner.... That move baffled me no end it made a wig out of McCutcheon and Brides.  
How many times did we see Brides on the ball on his own moving up the field, clearly uncomfortable/unused to that situation and he took the wrong option/ gave a bad pass every time.  In the very same situations that McCutcheon did so well in throughout the year up to Saturday...  Like I said baffled me
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on July 02, 2009, 08:29:46 PM
Quote from: Celt_Man on July 02, 2009, 07:37:39 PM
I'm beginning to worry about Carr to be honest... Apparently he said at half time that Galligan was carrying them out there and yes Galligan was definitely the better of the two mid fielders but carrying them?

And then he told John McCutcheon all along that he wouldn't be playing in the full back line - fair enough thinking, John has never played in the full back line - then 2 minutes before the start of the the game he tells him he is in the corner.... That move baffled me no end it made a wig out of McCutcheon and Brides.  
How many times did we see Brides on the ball on his own moving up the field, clearly uncomfortable/unused to that situation and he took the wrong option/ gave a bad pass every time.  In the very same situations that McCutcheon did so well in throughout the year up to Saturday...  Like I said baffled me
Couldn't agree more about McCutcheon. If ever a player could have felt that he deserved his place at wing-back it was John, and then to be put corner back made no sense.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on July 02, 2009, 09:32:55 PM
Quote from: Lawrence of Knockbride on July 02, 2009, 08:29:46 PM
Quote from: Celt_Man on July 02, 2009, 07:37:39 PM
I'm beginning to worry about Carr to be honest... Apparently he said at half time that Galligan was carrying them out there and yes Galligan was definitely the better of the two mid fielders but carrying them?

And then he told John McCutcheon all along that he wouldn't be playing in the full back line - fair enough thinking, John has never played in the full back line - then 2 minutes before the start of the the game he tells him he is in the corner.... That move baffled me no end it made a wig out of McCutcheon and Brides.  
How many times did we see Brides on the ball on his own moving up the field, clearly uncomfortable/unused to that situation and he took the wrong option/ gave a bad pass every time.  In the very same situations that McCutcheon did so well in throughout the year up to Saturday...  Like I said baffled me
Couldn't agree more about McCutcheon. If ever a player could have felt that he deserved his place at wing-back it was John, and then to be put corner back made no sense.

No sence what so ever  :-\
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on July 02, 2009, 10:22:00 PM
Quote from: boojangles on July 02, 2009, 06:49:41 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on July 02, 2009, 12:28:27 AM

No Comment  :P, were you asking McGowan was he BallyhaiseMan on GAABOARD when you were "walking into him"  :D
you really regret leaving your email showing now dont ya?  ;D
dont be worrying Boojangles,i wouldnt know ya that well other than say hello if i met you walking down the street!!!
Im not who you think i am!!!
Ray was terrific as was Eamon and Baz Kelly, anyway that was only the warm up game for the Real Match in Killygarry in a few weeks, time. Sure you lot are crafty feckers, probably trying to lull us into a false sense of security.

Ah I was only saying hello back to Ciaran after he greeted me!
Im hardly gonna announce my identity on here but I dont really give a f**k to be honest,as Iv said before it wouldnt be too hard to make out who I am.
Yous had some fine performances alright,and going on yesterday we have alot of catching up to do.You's are in serious shape too.
That game should be played in Breifne Park,in 2005 we produced probably the game of the year there.But we'l settle for Killygarry.

Heard today that Lyng has left the County also. The Gaels are heading away for the weekend to Mayo and Lyng is heading. He scored 1-3 against Redhills last nite.
Any other scores from League games played last nite?
definetely should be breffini i agree,Killygarry will be packed to the rafters that night.
Belturbet Beat Denn 0-10 to 1-03 or something along those lines.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on July 02, 2009, 10:28:47 PM
As for Lyng and Pierson leaving the panel,
Its a shame as we were all hoping that Lyng would make the 40 position his own and Pierson would prove his undoubted talent and take the pressure off Jelly and create one of the better full forward lines in the country.
It just doesnt seem to have happened.

McCabe
McKeever
Pierson
Lyng

4 players that in january you would have reckoned would be part of the backbone of this side.
Carr certainly isnt afraid to get rid of the big names.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on July 03, 2009, 12:03:46 PM
There's nothing like a bad defeat to start the rumour mill churning  ;)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Mr. Pain on July 03, 2009, 05:05:02 PM
They call him Mellow Yellow. Quite Rightly! Not much a writin' these days. Whole lotta drinkin'! The Pain has lost his marbles, yes finally. A game like that can do that to you.

Ok, Paininis. What's next? Why is the club championship still revolving around the County Weiner Team? Let's get it started! When is the Junior B, C & D going to commence? What's the capital of Mongolia? Are those Mr. Pain's feet?

Replies please to P.O.X.y 2009 Carr.

Rant over!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on July 03, 2009, 06:38:16 PM
Lyng has not left. . 99% sure of it.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on July 03, 2009, 06:46:18 PM
Thats good , hope the f**k he starts the next day.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on July 03, 2009, 07:32:03 PM
Quote from: put-it-up on July 03, 2009, 06:38:16 PM
Lyng has not left. . 99% sure of it.

Good to hear.

And good to hear from you Mr Pain.  Each one of your posts are well worth waiting for.

Hopefully the club championships will be in limbo for awhile longer as we progress in the AI series (and it will give Denn a chance to stay involved for a while longer too).

And I would suggest that people watch the game from last weekend.  If we can stop the silly mistakes and stop trying to short pass up the wings (there should be some wide open spaces that we can exploit), we aren't too bad. 
Quote from: cavan4ever on July 03, 2009, 06:46:18 PM
Thats good , hope the f**k he starts the next day.

They question is in what position?  I know people suggest that he would be an ideal 40 man but is he mobile enough, especially as he is just back from injury.  BHM has suggested that we haven't seen the best from Cullivan as he missed a month training.  How long was Lyng out.  Whatever, he needs to be given a chance.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Western Blue on July 03, 2009, 11:45:33 PM
Any news from the Cavan training session tonight.  I hope this group footballers stick together and give us depressed supporters  a win next Saturday week in the Qualifers.     Jumping ship and sulking is not the answer.  I am 100% behind T.C  at this time.  Out with those that are not prepared work with the Panel and abide by the team rules
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on July 04, 2009, 09:41:01 PM
Might be bad timing but seems like a worthy cause..


http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Cavan-GAA-football-jersey-with-team-autographs_W0QQitemZ320393259707QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_Sports_Memorabilia_ET?hash=item4a98ed2abb&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=65:12|66:2|39:1|72:1684|240:1318|301:1|293:1|294:50

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on July 05, 2009, 12:32:37 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on July 04, 2009, 09:41:01 PM
Might be bad timing but seems like a worthy cause..


http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Cavan-GAA-football-jersey-with-team-autographs_W0QQitemZ320393259707QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_Sports_Memorabilia_ET?hash=item4a98ed2abb&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=65:12|66:2|39:1|72:1684|240:1318|301:1|293:1|294:50



Great link myles, are you trying to sell it to raise a couple of euro?

Only joking, saw what it was for, no doubt it is a good cause but a bad time to try and sell a Cavan jersey!!!! If they had of get to the final, they might if got a decent price for it!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on July 05, 2009, 01:46:12 PM
Quote from: put-it-up on July 05, 2009, 12:32:37 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on July 04, 2009, 09:41:01 PM
Might be bad timing but seems like a worthy cause..


http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Cavan-GAA-football-jersey-with-team-autographs_W0QQitemZ320393259707QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_Sports_Memorabilia_ET?hash=item4a98ed2abb&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=65:12|66:2|39:1|72:1684|240:1318|301:1|293:1|294:50



Great link myles, are you trying to sell it to raise a couple of euro?

Only joking, saw what it was for, no doubt it is a good cause but a bad time to try and sell a Cavan jersey!!!! If they had of get to the final, they might if got a decent price for it!

I dare say it was probably worth more without the signatures :-[
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on July 05, 2009, 02:18:24 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on July 05, 2009, 01:46:12 PM
Quote from: put-it-up on July 05, 2009, 12:32:37 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on July 04, 2009, 09:41:01 PM
Might be bad timing but seems like a worthy cause..


http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Cavan-GAA-football-jersey-with-team-autographs_W0QQitemZ320393259707QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_Sports_Memorabilia_ET?hash=item4a98ed2abb&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=65:12|66:2|39:1|72:1684|240:1318|301:1|293:1|294:50



Great link myles, are you trying to sell it to raise a couple of euro?

Only joking, saw what it was for, no doubt it is a good cause but a bad time to try and sell a Cavan jersey!!!! If they had of get to the final, they might if got a decent price for it!

;D

I like your sense of humour! :D

Funny because it is true!

I dare say it was probably worth more without the signatures :-[
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tierworker blue on July 05, 2009, 02:20:01 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on July 05, 2009, 01:46:12 PM
Quote from: put-it-up on July 05, 2009, 12:32:37 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on July 04, 2009, 09:41:01 PM
Might be bad timing but seems like a worthy cause..


http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Cavan-GAA-football-jersey-with-team-autographs_W0QQitemZ320393259707QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_Sports_Memorabilia_ET?hash=item4a98ed2abb&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=65:12|66:2|39:1|72:1684|240:1318|301:1|293:1|294:50



Great link myles, are you trying to sell it to raise a couple of euro?

Only joking, saw what it was for, no doubt it is a good cause but a bad time to try and sell a Cavan jersey!!!! If they had of get to the final, they might if got a decent price for it!

I dare say it was probably worth more without the signatures :-[

Ah, you'd never know...it could be worth an absolute fortune after Cavan stage a complete turnaround in form, and march on to claim their sixth All Ireland title in September! Hang on a second...I think I just saw an airborne sow flying past the window  ;D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on July 05, 2009, 06:33:29 PM
Wicklow away....  :-\

Dont know whether to be happy or sad really!think we are in for a tough game down there.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: big balla on July 05, 2009, 06:45:57 PM
Quote from: put-it-up on July 05, 2009, 06:33:29 PM
Wicklow away....  :-\

Dont know whether to be happy or sad really!think we are in for a tough game down there.

We couldn't have got much better in fairness. It's just about the best result we could have hoped for unless we got them at home
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on July 05, 2009, 06:54:24 PM
Quote from: big balla on July 05, 2009, 06:45:57 PM
Quote from: put-it-up on July 05, 2009, 06:33:29 PM
Wicklow away....  :-\

Dont know whether to be happy or sad really!think we are in for a tough game down there.

We couldn't have got much better in fairness. It's just about the best result we could have hoped for unless we got them at home
I disagree. They have a great home record. We'd have been better off against Longford, Clare or Down. Still, it's a game we could win and it'll be a big test of our desire as you just know they'll be up for it.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Drung on July 05, 2009, 07:05:00 PM
I'd rather have Wicklow than Down and Longford already beat us this year and are coming off a good win in Leitrim.
If I had been offered Wicklow, even away, before the draw I'd have taken it but it's not easy by any means and I would imagine they will be favourites.
Tough, but not impossible. On the Antrim performance, we'll lose by ten points. On the Fermanagh one, it will be very tight but we'll probably lose.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on July 05, 2009, 08:04:30 PM
Wicklow have two big men in the middle that are not bad but apart from that they are very average. However, they will be well set up, fit, strong and athletic. They don't have much football about them but then that is the type of team we always seem to struggle against. Add to the fact that we have to play them in their own patch makes this a tough tricky encounter. To be fair if we have any business being around the championship after towards the end of July we need to be beating teams like Wicklow. Again it is critical that we are up for the game as Micko does not send teams into championship action in any other frame of mind.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on July 05, 2009, 08:12:09 PM
Just back from Redhills V Ballinagh in Redhills. Ballinagh up by 6 with 10 mins to go and cruising.Took the foot of the gas and let Redhills back into it.Redhills scrambled a ball across the line with the last kick of the game.Draw. Ballinagh must be kicking themselves. Cant say too many players stood out,Allen Durkin at midfield dominated on his cousin Brendan Leddy.Podge played in patches.Rory Dunne very poor. Gaynor started full-forward but was moved into the corner.Looks a long way off the pace,his handling especially letting him down.Surely he would be more effective and comfortable in the backs to try and let him find his feet after being out for so long. Redhills were supposedly outstanding against the Gaels during the week,didnt look anything near it tonight but fair play to them for sticking at it and getting a point.
Wicklow away- I suppose theres alot worse teams we could have got.Bar the home draw or Longford at home,I cant think of a better draw.In saying that it will obviously be tough,Aughrim is a hard place to go to,but it will be a good marker to see where we are at, at the moment. No disrespect to Wicklow but a loss wouldnt leave much hope for the future.We couldnt have drawn Clare as they were provincial losers like ourselves. Have a wedding next Saturday so thats One less that will make the trip.Cant see too many fans travelling down there TBH.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on July 05, 2009, 08:56:17 PM
Wicklow, I suppose they have seen off Fermanagh which is as much as we have done. I think we played them in Aughrim a few years ago during McIlkennon's spell in charge, possibly the year we lost to Waterford on the last day. On that day they struck me as a big crowd of mullockers with not a huge amount of skill, We ran them off the park, let them back into it as per usual and ended up lucky enough to get away with a win. Seem to remember Eugene Kiernan of Ballymachugh coming on as a sub that day, fumbling one or two balls and being replaced himself ten minutes after coming on by Larry Reilly, I joke you not. Eugene has not been back near the panel since, can't blame him really.

this is a bit test of Carrs year as far as I'm concerned, if players roll the sleeves up and put in a solid performance I think we can take some heart over the year as a whole.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on July 05, 2009, 09:13:43 PM
Quote from: anglocelt39 on July 05, 2009, 08:56:17 PM
Wicklow, I suppose they have seen off Fermanagh which is as much as we have done. I think we played them in Aughrim a few years ago during McIlkennon's spell in charge, possibly the year we lost to Waterford on the last day. On that day they struck me as a big crowd of mullockers with not a huge amount of skill, We ran them off the park, let them back into it as per usual and ended up lucky enough to get away with a win. Seem to remember Eugene Kiernan of Ballymachugh coming on as a sub that day, fumbling one or two balls and being replaced himself ten minutes after coming on by Larry Reilly, I joke you not. Eugene has not been back near the panel since, can't blame him really.

this is a bit test of Carrs year as far as I'm concerned, if players roll the sleeves up and put in a solid performance I think we can take some heart over the year as a whole.

James Kiernan-thats right,was an awful thing to do to a young lad who was only in on the panel. Like a lot of good footballers who got one or 2 chances to prove himself and wasnt perservered with.While others find it harder to make their way OFF the County set-up.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on July 05, 2009, 10:01:20 PM
Great draw but its a pity its not at home.

Actually, thinking about it, It is better.  No pressure on the lads and Wicklow under Micko play football.  It will be an ideal test of how the players react.  And TC will relish the battle.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on July 06, 2009, 10:22:56 AM
FYI venue is not Aughrim yet, there's a coin toss later today to decide home advantage.

Shocking collapse by Ballinagh yesterday, actually led by 7 points at one stage. Would agree with Boojangles other comments.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on July 06, 2009, 10:26:48 AM
Quote from: Homer on July 06, 2009, 10:22:56 AM
FYI venue is not Aughrim yet, there's a coin toss later today to decide home advantage.

Shocking collapse by Ballinagh yesterday, actually led by 7 points at one stage. Would agree with Boojangles other comments.

Thats what it said in yesterdays sunday world but all other reports would say otherwise.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on July 06, 2009, 10:45:14 AM
Quote from: Homer on July 06, 2009, 10:22:56 AM
FYI venue is not Aughrim yet, there's a coin toss later today to decide home advantage.

Shocking collapse by Ballinagh yesterday, actually led by 7 points at one stage. Would agree with Boojangles other comments.

I doubt that is correct. Sure they went to all the bother of saying 1st out of the pot gets home advantage and to try and make sure this was done fairly they drew the two teams out, put them in a 3rd bowl and took out the 1st team from there. It has to be in Wicklow, unless of course they are expecting 10k to travel from Cavan!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Hollow Man on July 06, 2009, 10:47:32 AM
I'm surprised at you Homer, you are usually not a complete halfwit.
Cavan "I hate Ciaran Galligan/Cavan are useless" 4ever usually is so I disregard what he says.

From RTE.ie:

The draw for the second round of the All-Ireland SFC qualifiers has pitted Ulster rivals Monaghan and Derry against each other.

The two sides have already clashed in the Ulster Championship in a game that received much bad press for what was perceived as violent play.

Derry were subsequently dumped out of the province by Tyrone at the semi-final stage, while Monaghan got through the first round of the qualifiers by overcoming Armagh after extra-time at Clones last night.

The other big tie of the round sees Leinster neighbours Meath and Westmeath drawn together, with the latter having home advantage.

Both sides were put out of Leinster by Dublin, with the Lakesmen on the end of a 27-point annihilation.

Longford will host Kerry, with the Midlanders looking for revenge for the qualifier defeat they suffered at the hands of the Kingdom in Killarney in 2006.

Wicklow have been rewarded for their win over Fermanagh in Aughrim with a home tie against Tommy Carr's Cavan, while Donegal continue their rehabilitation with a home game against Clare.

The other games will see Down host Laois, Wexford entertain Roscommon and Sligo travel to Tipperary.

All-Ireland SFC Qualifiers Round Two

Down v Laois

Monaghan v Derry

Longford v Kerry

Wexford v Roscommon

Tipperary v Sligo

Donegal v Clare

Westmeath v Meath

Wicklow v Cavan

(Games to be played on Saturday, 11 July)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on July 06, 2009, 10:55:28 AM
Good morning Hollow Man  :-*


For the record i dont hate Ciarain Galligan,  i just dont rate him. 

Should i pretend that Cavan are magic ?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on July 06, 2009, 01:35:17 PM
Quote from: Hollow Man on July 06, 2009, 10:47:32 AM
I'm surprised at you Homer, you are usually not a complete halfwit.

Wouldn't have expected anything less from you HollowMan.

It looks like my information is probably wrong, but I'm just telling you what one of the players told me yesterday.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on July 06, 2009, 02:00:33 PM
Wicklow will be delighted to have drawn us based on our efforts against Antrim. There's very little between the sides but as the poster above says, if we have any designs on building something decent, we simply have to win this match.

If we're sufficiently stung by the criticism after the Antrim debacle and go out like men possessed like we should, then I think we can win it but if we go out half cocked, a very plucky, well organised and fit Wicklow playing at home will do us by a few points for sure. They look a fairly limited side and again you would think we have the better class of players in this particular match up, but after Antrim, we have no reasons to be certain of winning.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on July 06, 2009, 02:31:02 PM
also heard Killygarry won the u14 All-Ireland Feile...Good to see a club doing something right at underage level. Red n Black, would be interested to know what exactly the club is putting in their water? ;D Only joking, the coaches must be doing something right up there.

Congratulations lads
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: North Longford on July 06, 2009, 03:31:03 PM
Was speaking to a fella today who has a bit of insider knowledge on the squad and he was told it has gone a bit down hill since the Antrim game. Fellas not turning up for training etc etc.......
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Mr. Pain on July 06, 2009, 03:35:00 PM
Next Saturday is a severe test of the character of the current crop of players. At this stage one would hope that the cockiness of each individual has subsided and they realise that they are not the superstars they thought they were. Well, hopefully. They will have to be humble if they are to overcome a Wicklow side that will have the support of most of the country due to their rags to, eh, small profit story. It is the only way they will progress. Cavan are not great, let's be honest. However in this Pain dude's opinion they are not as bad as the display they gave against Antrim. There will be no prediction made before this game. Rant over!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on July 06, 2009, 03:56:14 PM
Quote from: North Longford on July 06, 2009, 03:31:03 PM
Was speaking to a fella today who has a bit of insider knowledge on the squad and he was told it has gone a bit down hill since the Antrim game. Fellas not turning up for training etc etc.......

I suppose the performance on Saturday will show the validity of the above comment.

IF it is true, Hopefully the lads on the field will give it everything they've got.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on July 06, 2009, 03:58:57 PM
Quote from: put-it-up on July 06, 2009, 02:31:02 PM
also heard Killygarry won the u14 All-Ireland Feile...Good to see a club doing something right at underage level. Red n Black, would be interested to know what exactly the club is putting in their water? ;D Only joking, the coaches must be doing something right up there.

Congratulations lads

Congratulations to RednBlack and Killygarry,Its a terrific achievement to win an All Ireland title.
at the recent Coaching Conference Killygarry had an army of volunteers/coaches there compared to other clubs,They are certainly putting the work in underage.


I know the Gaels won their division about 10 years ago down in waterford
and Baileborough have competed well in recent times. They won one and lost two narrowly in this years.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Babe Ruth 47 on July 06, 2009, 06:16:37 PM
Well done RednBlack, wonderful achievement. Were you involved by any chance, you seemed very quiet over the weekend?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on July 06, 2009, 07:09:10 PM
Cahill is defo gone.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: trim blue on July 06, 2009, 11:37:04 PM
RednBlack fantastic achievement by all concerned
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: jimjim on July 07, 2009, 04:40:22 PM
Heard the transfer of Mark Little to Cavan Gaels is to be completed this week.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on July 07, 2009, 06:32:45 PM
Congrats RedN Black,great achievement.A win like that can keep a young bunch of footballers together until at least Minor level,and has also given them that winning feeling,which is vital at Underage.
Martin Cahill has definitely left the panel.wanted to concentrate on his club.Hard to know what to think there.He hasnt been given much of a chance this year.
My earlier reports of Lyng were proved untrue,he did not travel with the Gaels for the wkend away.
Id expect a few changes for Saturday. For what its worth here would be my moves-
Gunner in Centre Half
Fannin in for Brides
Lyng in for Sean Brady
Givney in for Keating

Miller
Hannon
Sheridan
Fannin
McCutcheon
Brady
Flanagan
Galligan
Cullivan
Mackey
Lyng
Martin Reilly
Jelly
Givney
Pierson/Larry

I would hope for a much improved performance from our Full-Back but I wouldnt be confident.Flanagan needs to be given a position and let him stay there. People can say what they like about Cullivan being too small for MF but I dont know of anybody else in the County that can field a ball as well as him.His judgement in the air is superb.Shane Ryan worked at MF for the Dubs and he is only 6ft.He couldnt be any worse than Walsh against Antrim,who may be injured anyway. Givney done well when introduced and he deserves his chance.He is aware and hopefully can break a few down for Jelly. Lyng seems to be moving well,he played well with his club last week and deserves a chance.Paul the Gunner has to be a cert for Centre Half. I don't know the situation with Pierson,hopefully he is still there.If not,Larry would give Wicklow something to worry about.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tierworker blue on July 07, 2009, 07:47:02 PM
Quote from: boojangles on July 07, 2009, 06:32:45 PM

Miller
Hannon
Sheridan
Fannin
McCutcheon
Brady
Flanagan
Galligan
Cullivan
Mackey
Lyng
Martin Reilly
Jelly
Givney
Pierson/Larry


That's the team I'd start as well...you just beat me to it Boojangles! I think Cullivan could bring some fight / energy to midfield and Givney deserves a chance...I like the cut of his jib (does anyone even say that anymore?!) so far. Gunner at chb is important too methinks. It would be great to see Lyng on, and playing well, spraying some intelligent ball about the forwards.
With the right attitude, it's a game that can be won, and would put us back on track to improving things. Wicklow won't be found wanting in the motivation stakes, but I believe we have the better footballers (yeah...I know that's what we said before the Antrim game!) so if the lads get their finger out, they are in with a good shout. As we have all said previously, this game will tell a lot!

Ps...congrats to Killygarry...well done to all involved.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on July 07, 2009, 09:53:52 PM
Sorry that Martin has left the panel.  I suppose he looked what was before him (what has happened up to now) and didn't see himself playing. Pity.

Wouldn't be that close to the club, but don't see how much can be done before the end of the year.  But hope springs eternal.

Well done Killygarry.  Must be all the goodness that flows from Sliabh Glah that fortifies you.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on July 07, 2009, 10:39:07 PM
Quote from: RednBlack on July 07, 2009, 10:31:02 PM
Quote from: Denn Forever on July 07, 2009, 09:53:52 PM
Sorry that Martin has left the panel.  I suppose he looked what was before him (what has happened up to now) and didn't see himself playing. Pity.

Wouldn't be that close to the club, but don't see how much can be done before the end of the year.  But hope springs eternal.

Well done Killygarry.  Must be all the goodness that flows from Sliabh Glah that fortifies you.
ha ha ha the Lavey boys will now try and take credit? Is that what your saying   ;D

Mulvey gone too.......that fairly reduces down the pack weight!!!!

Wont make any difference anyway the way things were going for him in there.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on July 08, 2009, 11:45:31 AM
Best of luck to the boys on Saturday - I'll be there anyway athough I presume all the "sunshine supporters" who left long before Cavan got their goal against Antrim won't make the trip...
Just a worrying point that some of the boys have only played one league game since the Antrim game and it's hard to judge whether there was any intensity to it.  I see both Mayo and Galway had club championship at the weekend despite playing in the Connacht Final this Sunday so I ask the question why couldn't Cavan had played the second round of club championship last weekend as well?
We had a bye in the first round so still haven't played a game obviously and if Cavan win on Saturday then it won't be played till August at the earliest....
We played Drung last Wednesday the 1st of July our first competitive game since the 25th April against Ballyhaise.... if the Championship doesn't get played till August Cootehill will have played 2 competitive games during the months of May, June and July - How in the name of jaysus is club football supposed to improve with that going on???? All the while Cavan will have only played 3 games so it's not like they will have gone on some amazing run with a couple of replays thrown in...
I would hazard to say that this gap of no games for club players contributes big time to the negativity surrounding the county side...
By the way, I'm not just lamenting my own club, I would say that there is plenty of clubs in a similar boat - obviously other teams who had a bye in the first round
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on July 08, 2009, 01:01:38 PM
Quote from: tierworker blue on July 07, 2009, 07:47:02 PM
Quote from: boojangles on July 07, 2009, 06:32:45 PM

Miller
Hannon
Sheridan
Fannin
McCutcheon
Brady
Flanagan
Galligan
Cullivan
Mackey
Lyng
Martin Reilly
Jelly
Givney
Pierson/Larry




Id like to see Ted given a chance at FB to be honest last. From what I hear Dermot is very dedicated and I do rate him but I feel Smith needs a chance.
Agree with the half-back line.
In midfield I would start Givney there and Ray at 14. Cullivan is more accomplished at point-taking. However what I like about this is the fact they can switch in games and when Givney goes in, that will give Wicklow something to think about. David does seem to have a knack for goals from FF which I like.
I go back to the Wexford challenge game I was at ages ago. Ray drifted out and was exceptional and left oceans of room for Seanie and Martin. Was effective, as Cavan kept playing diagonal balls. When Cullivan's man start sweeping, he went back in on the square and Cavan pumped ball into him, which he fielded impressively.


Also would like Larry to start, he looked very sharp the last day.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on July 08, 2009, 01:02:30 PM
By the way, how long is it from Bailieborough to Aughrim roughly?

I think i'll need a packed lunch ;D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Drung on July 08, 2009, 02:04:05 PM
I'm not a fan of martin Reilly, he's very average from play and is ridiculously light. I mean there's small light and hardy players, but he's extremely weak for inter-county senior football and you can't afford to have a player like that unless he's exceptional.
He's also not that great a free-taker - he got a couple of nice ones against Fermanagh but he was hopeless from frees against Antrim. For that reason I'd drop him and bring in Larry - I would always start Larry because he takes the game to the opposition, has experience and gets the crowd rose and behind the team.

Mulvey and Walsh are out, so it has to be Cullivan at midfield, I would try Givney at full-forward, we have nothing to lose by throwing him in there, he's had a few months since the Longford and Tipp games when he last featured at FF.
He scored a hat-trick for the Cavan juniors in that position against a very good Louth team, and marking their senior full-back Ciaran Goss.

I would have liked to see Cahill thrown in but he's gone now so I'd bring McCutcheon to centre-back with Flanagan and Gunner on the wings. Dunne should be full back along with Hannon/Brides/Fannin/Sheridan - any two. If things are going wrong at 3, bring on Ted. Brides was brilliant against Fermanagh remember, while Hannon, who I rate highly, has been off the pace ever since his injury.

So my team would be

James Reilly

Sheridan
Dunne
Brides/Hannon - I'd give Brides the nod.

Brady
McCutcheon
Flanagan

Galligan
Cullivan

Larry Reilly
Lyng
Mackey

Johnston
Givney
Pearson


Regradless, it's going to be very tough. Hopefully we get a big performance and a win.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on July 08, 2009, 03:59:10 PM
Quote from: Drung on July 08, 2009, 02:04:05 PM
I'm not a fan of martin Reilly, he's very average from play and is ridiculously light. I mean there's small light and hardy players, but he's extremely weak for inter-county senior football and you can't afford to have a player like that unless he's exceptional.
He's also not that great a free-taker - he got a couple of nice ones against Fermanagh but he was hopeless from frees against Antrim. For that reason I'd drop him and bring in Larry - I would always start Larry because he takes the game to the opposition, has experience and gets the crowd rose and behind the team.

Mulvey and Walsh are out, so it has to be Cullivan at midfield, I would try Givney at full-forward, we have nothing to lose by throwing him in there, he's had a few months since the Longford and Tipp games when he last featured at FF.
He scored a hat-trick for the Cavan juniors in that position against a very good Louth team, and marking their senior full-back Ciaran Goss.

I would have liked to see Cahill thrown in but he's gone now so I'd bring McCutcheon to centre-back with Flanagan and Gunner on the wings. Dunne should be full back along with Hannon/Brides/Fannin/Sheridan - any two. If things are going wrong at 3, bring on Ted. Brides was brilliant against Fermanagh remember, while Hannon, who I rate highly, has been off the pace ever since his injury.

So my team would be

James Reilly

Sheridan
Dunne
Brides/Hannon - I'd give Brides the nod.

Brady
McCutcheon
Flanagan

Galligan
Cullivan

Larry Reilly
Lyng
Mackey

Johnston
Givney
Pearson


Regradless, it's going to be very tough. Hopefully we get a big performance and a win.
a few points Drung that id disagree with
Brides brilliant against Fermanagh? he was caught for the goal, he wasnt terrible but brilliant is stretching it a bit.
Dunne isnt quick enough for full back at Inter County Level, a Full Back at IC Level needs to be either fast or at least very quick off the mark,preferebly both. Dunne is a good footballer ,but not at full back.

The Full back line IMO should be
Sheridan
Ted
Hannon/Fannin either one
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on July 08, 2009, 06:17:58 PM
No harm to Rory Dunne,he is a good footballer but Drung if you seen him playing with his club last week you wouldnt have him near the panel let alone starting him full back.He hasnt played there all year so how you think he is gonna be ready for a Championship start there is beyond me.
John McCutcheon has been playing well at Right Half back all year,leave him there.Paul the Gunner has played well this year at Centre Half back,thats why I think he should be there.A Championship game is the not the time to be trying boys out,especially in Key positions.
Also how you could pick Brides ahead of Hannon is a joke.Brides did well against Fermanagh-to say he was brilliant is a total exaggeration.I know Hannon seems to be playing below par,but come on,Brides should have been shipped off after 20 mins against Antrim.Hannon has been Cavans best corner back for the last 5 years and was the best player in the Full-Back line in Clones-although thats not saying much.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on July 08, 2009, 06:33:15 PM
Good to see a few of you are still interested. A lot of our so-called fans have reverted to type (as have the players by the sounds of things) and aren't travelling for vaious reasons. Drung, I have to disagree also about Dunne. I think he's a very natural footballer but not a FB. Boojangles, he did in fact play FB against Louth and got roasted as he did anytime he played there under Keoghan. Definitely time to give Smith a run at FB. I also disagree Boojangles that it ain't a time for experimenting. All TC's plans have come undone. He did plenty of experimenting in the league but had room for even more. Sheridan and Podge were shown to be weak at FB, Dunne was poor there last year so Smith should've at least come on against Louth. Throw him in I say. I'd have Fanin in for Brides and I'd have had Cahill in for Hannon too if he'd stuck around (more on that later). Hannon may have been our best CB for years but you go on form for the most part surely and he's been mediocre all year, bar the Limerick match.
Is Walsh def out by the way? I also wouldn't have Larry on from the start. He gets the crowd going alright because he's liable to do anything-still unreliable even at 31 or whatever he is.
As for Cahill and Mulvey, I'm sure I'm going to get abuse for this so I'll put it as a question rather than a statement. Why would an inter-county footballer train hard for 6 months and then pack it in a week before what may be the county's last game? Now of course I don't know all the details, but all things being equal, why not stick at it? Especially given the poor form and injuries in these lads' respective positions. I don't rate Mulvey and I find it hard to watch or listen to him but we could've used him on Saturday. Ditto Cahill who has been slightly hard done by. The Cavan way I reckon is the answer. At least when he headed for Chicago he had some sort of reason. Concentrating on his club? They don't have a game for at least two weeks.
Anyway, rant over as our sporadic poster would say. I'll be heading South East with no expectations for a last look at the Breffni this year possibly.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on July 08, 2009, 07:12:59 PM
I too agree that Dunne should not be FB. Dont get me wrong, I think he will eventually inherit the number 3 jersey but at 19 years old, he is still abit naive and a bit too nice. More experienced forwards can bully him. At the minute his best chance of a game is at WB, but McCutcheon and Flanagan would be my choices there.

He impressed me with the u21'S and I know a couple of the young lads from my own club think very highly of him.

On the point on the lads walking away, I couldnt agree more with you Lawrence. I remember reading an article in the Post this time last year questioning why lads would leave the panel after training for so long. It really doesn't make sense. At the end of the day, they are another bite at the cherry.

Cahill I would have started this Sat but to be fair, the management clearly dont think much of him. Mulvey, well I dont rate him, but something has gone on behind the scenes that I would love to know more about
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Drung on July 08, 2009, 09:16:36 PM
QuoteAlso how you could pick Brides ahead of Hannon is a joke.Brides did well against Fermanagh-to say he was brilliant is a total exaggeration.I know Hannon seems to be playing below par,but come on,Brides should have been shipped off after 20 mins against Antrim.Hannon has been Cavans best corner back for the last 5 years and was the best player in the Full-Back line in Clones-although thats not saying much.

Boojangles, by your own admission, you haven't seen much of Cavan this year. I've seen almost every game and Michael Hannon has been poor in most. Like I said, a class player who I thought a couple of years ago was actually the answer to our problems at full-back, but he's way off-form at the moment.
Brides was poor against Antrim but generally he's been solid this year. Martin McHugh said on TV after the Fermanagh game that he thougth he was the best defnder on the pitch that day.
Either way, it's a close call and I hope whoever plays can do the job. They both come across as fellas with great attitude so good luck to them both.
Put it up, did you see Dunne at full-back for the Cavan minors two years ago? He was outstanding. Obviously it's a massive, massive step up but you say yourself that he will be senior full-back for years to come - why not throw him in now?
Boojangles, didn't see Dunne in that game you were at. I'm not saying he's Darren Fay but he's big, young and can play football, why not give him a go?
Ted didn't set the world alight for the Cavan juniors, and neither did Fannin, when they really should have been staking a claim for a senir spot. Both were in the full-back line on a team that conceded 3-15 against a junior side that evening and I'd say that made up the management's minds.
Paul Brady had one super game at centre-back v Roscommon but didn't play there otherwise. He has to start, but I think he's better at wing-back, where has always been very good for Cavan. McCutcheon is more of a stopper in my opinion and could do a job in the centre.
Anyone going? I'll be there. Long spin.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on July 08, 2009, 10:06:49 PM
I agree that McCutcheon could do more of a job as a stopper and maybe hold the middle better but he is playing well at Half Back and gives a good attacking option.its his first year playing Championship,so id let him get his confidence up and let him keep progressing.Centre half maybe next year. I agree that Hannon seems to be playing within himself but IMO that is still better than Brides can play.Brides was an outstanding Wing half back when he first came on to the scene but I just think he hasnt been near the same since that horror leg break.
Believe me I would be travelling,I know I missed a few League games,the interest isnt what it used to be but I rarely miss a Championship match.Its hard to know what to expect really.Fingers crossed.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on July 08, 2009, 10:56:48 PM
Roadwatch says 3 hours so with the massive crowd  ;) maybe best to leave at 3. I'd say 4 o'clock from Cavan Town. See the first half of the slog in Clones and then head wondering why you bothered.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on July 09, 2009, 12:37:17 AM
McCutcheon defo out RednBlack? Big loss!

Not overly surprised by Cullivan at MF, little other options it seems. Is Larry actually 14? He has a big point to prove if so!

Any other info?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on July 09, 2009, 07:59:32 AM
Cullivan will struggle in the middle. Thats where wicklow are strong as they have two hig hoors in their, Walsh from Carlow being one and I forget the other lads name. Be better to put Givney in there. I'm afraid to say I think Wicklow will win this. I'll be there anyway.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on July 09, 2009, 08:41:35 AM
Quote from: RednBlack on July 09, 2009, 12:07:30 AM
McCutcheon gone - hamstring
Larry - FF
Cullivan midfield
Gibney - doubtful

Got the full team RNB?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on July 09, 2009, 11:38:50 AM
Quote from: RednBlack on July 09, 2009, 09:05:13 AM
no. from what i was told from a player he suspects dunne in the corner but may change with mccutcheon gone. gunner CB. walsh and cullivan in middle. got told gibney pulled out with injury during training. flanagan at wing back. fannin may be a surprise. brady, reilly and keating unsure if they got in. larry FF. hope pierson gets nod for the corner. Martin Cahill trained but no Mulvey

update: dunne on wing, brides in corner, keating WF with Brady CF, Pierson in corner and Reilly, Mackey off........gets stranger by the hour....what does Keating have to do to be dropped........the boy better produce this weekend

Ah RnB, i can't tell you how much I hope you are wrong.

Fair enough if Brides starts due to a lack of alternatives but if Cahill is back I would like him to start ahead of him with Dunne at WB.
I know I have said I want Flanagan put back into the HB line, but not if it means Sean Brady has to play CF. Am I the only person that thinks he is useless??

Keating, because of his relationship wit Niall Lynch over the years in school and CuCu's, seem that he can do no wrong. He has been mediocre all year with both the U21's and seniors. He needs to deliver this weekend and show what he can do. There is no doubt he has talent but he has now gotta show it. Let's be having you Eugene.

For me Mackey has to start.

We talked about having no targetman the last day, so if Cullivan is MF and Givney is injured we definetly wont be hitting in high balls.

PS. What's happened to Galligan?? Don't think he deserves to be dropped. Would keep him MF and put Ray WF or FF

Team is not officaily out yet anyway, must be giving the injured fella;s as much time as possible
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on July 09, 2009, 11:41:24 AM
Just saw the Hoganstand.

Carr delays team selection


Cavan manager Tommy Carr has delayed selecting his starting 15 for this Saturday's All-Ireland SFC qualifier against Wicklow.

The Tipperary man was due to announce his team after a training session at Kingspan Breffni Park last night (Wednesday), but knocks picked up by three members of the squad during last night's session have saw the team selection for Saturday's trip to Aughrim postponed.

Carr is now set to assess the fitness of John McCutcheon, Ciaran Galligan and David Givney before revealing his side that will take on the Garden men, which means the team could well be left to be named hours before the throw-in at 7.00pm.

If those 3 are injured, our squad will looked pretty poor. That would bring us down to about 21 players I reckon!!

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on July 09, 2009, 04:20:12 PM
Quote from: put-it-up on July 09, 2009, 04:00:09 PM
I am really starting to worry about team selection.

Sean Brady plays CF (absolutely baffling)...

Agree to an extent, Sean Brady can contribute well on his day but he's very erratic and hasn't really done anything to hang on to his shirt for this game IMO, he started reasonably against Antrim but was anonymous thereafter. He clipped a few scores v Fermanagh alright but as far as I can gather, wasn't great generally speaking.

He played very well for Cavan against Down in that replay in Newry under Keogan and prior to that in a qualifier against Kildare in Newbridge in the dying days of the McElkennon 'era' but that's about it, to my recall. Perhaps Lyng is good for a second half or so and is being held in reserve?

Either way, we're in for a rough ride in Aughrim make no mistake about it, Wicklow are limited enough mind you and we should be something of a wounded animal and well wound up. If we come out flat and play poorly again or fail to rouse ourselves, it'll be a serious question mark over Carr's tenure already and will leave us at a total crossroads once more, incredible though that sounds not even 12 months since he took over. But that's the reality as I see it. I'd bite the hand off anyone offering me a one-point win right now to get the thing back on the rails.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: GaelicGames.In on July 10, 2009, 09:55:37 AM
Hi there,
I'm trying to put together a list of all the recent Cavan footballers and their clubs. Can any one help by adding in the first names and the clubs?
(Please can you keep an eye out for players with the same first initals eg P Canavan could either of the Tyrone footballers so dont just change it to Peter or Pascal - could you just add a note to say that)

A   Donohoe   
G   Sheridan   
E   Jackson   
T   Prior   
A   Forde   
J   Doonan   
P   Reilly   
C   Clarke   
B   McCrudden   
P   Galligan   
John   Tierney   
R   Cunningham   
Michael   Graham   
Jason   O'Reilly   
Finbarr   O'Reilly   
R   Rogers   
B   Morris   
F   Reilly   
Dermot   McCabe   
C   McCarey   
H   Smith   
L   Reilly   
Michael   Brides   
R   Donohoe   
E   Reilly   
Colm   Hannon   
Cathal   Collins   
P   McKenna   
Gerald   Pierson   
C   Nelligan   
B   Corrigan   
P   Kermath   
James   Reilly   
B   McGahon   
Mark   McKeever   
Patrick   Brady   
Sean   Maguire   
K   Fannin   
E   King   
John   Clarke   
J   McNally   
J   Jordan   
Michael   Hannon   
D   Prior   
Sean   Brady   
E   Elliott   
Darren   Rabbitt   
Karl   Crotty   
T   Crowe   
S   Smith   
A   Coleman   
R   Galligan   
Darren   Rabbitt   
Nicholas   Walsh   
P   O'Dowd   
Eddie   O'Reilly   
C   McGovern   
Sean   Johnston   
Michael   Lyng   
Anthony   Gaynor   
S   Cole   
Martin   Cahill   
Paul   Brady   
Patrick   Brady   
Lorcan   Mulvey   
Peter   Reilly   
Pauric   Reilly   
P   O'Reilly   
Cian   Mackey   
C   Anderson   
M   Brennan   
G   Duffy   
J   Kiernan   
P   Cahill   
Ronan   Flanagan   
D   McGlade   
C   Mackay   
Eddie   O'Reilly   
Jonathan   Crowe   
D   Thomas   
M   Cunningham   
R   Gallagher   
Martin   Reilly   
Ray   Cullivan   
Ciaran   Galligan   
Dermot   Sheridan   
John   Clarke   
Keith   Fannin   
John   McCutcheon   
D   Rooney   
David   Givney   
Mark   McKeever   
Rory   Donohoe   
Martin   Reilly   
Ryan   McCormack   
A   Clarke   
A   Fitzpatrick   
John   McCutcheon   
Barry   Watters   
Rory   Dunne   
J   Cunningham   
M   McDonald   
E   McCormack   
A   Reilly   
P   Gumley   
D   O'Dowd   
Fintan   Reilly   
David   Givney   
E   Keating   
C   Smith   
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Bongo on July 10, 2009, 11:51:26 AM
Here is a start Gaelic Games.in

Aaron   Donohoe    Belturbet
Gerry   Sheridan    Bailieborough ( There was also a Gerry Sheridan from Mullahoran in the Early 90's)
Edward   Jackson   Drumgoon
Thomas   Prior   Swandlinbar
Anthony   Forde   Shannon Gaels/ Cavan Gaels
James   Doonan   Cavan Gaels
Peter   Reilly   Knockbride ( or Pauric Reilly Ballinagh)
Charles   Clarke   Bailieborough
Barry   McCrudden   Ballyhaise
Paul  Galligan   Ballinagh
John   Tierney   Knockbride
Raymond    Cunningham   Kingscourt / Kilmainhamwood
Michael   Graham   Cavan Gaels
Jason   O'Reilly   Belturbet
Finbarr   O'Reilly   Lacken
Rapheal   Rogers   Knockbride
Bernard   Morris   Gowna
F   Reilly   
Dermot   McCabe   Gowna
Conor   McCarey   Kill
Hubert   Smith   Denn
Larry   Reilly   Knockbride
Michael   Brides   Redhills / St. Vincents
Rory   Donohoe Belturbet
Eddie   Reilly   Mullahoran (or Eamonn Reilly Cavan Gaels)
Colm   Hannon   Drumgoon
Cathal   Collins   Cavan Gaels
Pierce   McKenna   Kill
Gerald   Pierson   Gowna
Cormac   Nelligan   Cavan Gaels
B   Corrigan   
Philip   Kermath  Ramor Utd.
James   Reilly   Drung
B   McGahon   
Mark   McKeever   Gowna
Patrick   Brady   Gowna
Sean   Maguire   
Keith   Fannin   Drumgoon
Enda   King   Cavan Gaels
John   Clarke   
J   McNally   Drumgoon
Joey   Jordan   Lavey
Michael   Hannon   Drumgoon
D   Prior   
Sean   Brady   Castlerahan
Eoin   Elliott   Cavan Gaels
Darren   Rabbitt   Cavan Gaels
Karl   Crotty   Cavan Gaels
Trevor   Crowe   Lacken
S   Smith   
Andrew   Coleman   bailieborough
R  Galligan   
Darren   Rabbitt   cavan Gaels
Nicholas   Walsh   Cavan Gaels
Paul   O'Dowd   Bailieborough
Eddie   O'Reilly   Mullahoran
C   McGovern   
Sean   Johnston   Cavan Gaels
Michael   Lyng   Cavan Gaels
Anthony   Gaynor   ballinagh
S   Cole   
Martin   Cahill   Denn
Paul   Brady   Mullahoran
Patrick   Brady   
Lorcan   Mulvey   Belturbet
Peter   Reilly   Knockbride
Pauric   Reilly   ballinagh
P   O'Reilly   
Cian   Mackey   castlerahan
Colm   Anderson   Cuchullains
Michael   Brennan   Drumalee
G   Duffy   
J   Kiernan   
P   Cahill   
Ronan   Flanagan   Castlerahan
D   McGlade   
C   Mackay   
Eddie   O'Reilly   
Jonathan   Crowe   
Donal   Thomas   Killygarry
Michael   Cunningham   Swandlinbar
Rory   Gallagher   Crosserlough
Martin   Reilly   Killygarry
Ray   Cullivan   Ballyhaise
Ciaran   Galligan   Drung
Dermot   Sheridan   Mullahoran
John   Clarke   
Keith   Fannin   Drumgoon
John   McCutcheon   Coothehill
David   Rooney   Bailiborough
David   Givney   
Mark   McKeever   
Rory   Donohoe   
Martin   Reilly   
Ryan   McCormack   Kingscourt
Alan   Clarke   Kingscourt
Adrian   Fitzpatrick   Redhills
John   McCutcheon   
Barry   Watters   ballyhaise
Rory   Dunne   Redhills
J   Cunningham   
M   McDonald   
E   McCormack   
A   Reilly   
Paddy   Gumley   Redhills
Dane   O'Dowd   Redhills
Fintan   Reilly   Redhills
David   Givney   
Eugene   Keating   Cuchulains
Colm   Smith   Cuchulains
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on July 10, 2009, 11:56:50 AM
f**king spam
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on July 10, 2009, 12:08:08 PM

Here is a start Gaelic Games.in

Aaron   Donohoe    Belturbet
Gerry   Sheridan    Bailieborough ( There was also a Gerry Sheridan from Mullahoran in the Early 90's)
Edward   Jackson   Drumgoon
Thomas   Prior   Swandlinbar
Anthony   Forde   Shannon Gaels/ Cavan Gaels
James   Doonan   Cavan Gaels
Peter   Reilly   Knockbride ( or Pauric Reilly Ballinagh)
Charles   Clarke   Bailieborough
Barry   McCrudden   Ballyhaise
Paul  Galligan   Ballinagh
John   Tierney   Knockbride
Raymond    Cunningham   Kingscourt / Kilmainhamwood
Michael   Graham   Cavan Gaels
Jason   O'Reilly   Belturbet
Finbarr   O'Reilly   Lacken
Rapheal   Rogers   Knockbride
Bernard   Morris   Gowna
Finbar   Reilly Lacken / Fintan Reilly - Redhills    
Dermot   McCabe   Gowna
Conor   McCarey   Kill
Hubert   Smith   Denn
Larry   Reilly   Knockbride
Michael   Brides   Redhills / St. Vincents
Rory   Donohoe Belturbet
Eddie   Reilly   Mullahoran (or Eamonn Reilly Cavan Gaels)
Colm   Hannon   Drumgoon
Cathal   Collins   Cavan Gaels
Pierce   McKenna   Kill
Gerald   Pierson   Gowna
Cormac   Nelligan   Cavan Gaels
Barry   Corrigan Drumlane   
Philip   Kermath  Ramor Utd.
James   Reilly   Drung
B   McGahon   
Mark   McKeever   Gowna
Patrick   Brady   Gowna
Sean   Maguire   Lavey
Keith   Fannin   Drumgoon
Enda   King   Cavan Gaels
John   Clarke   Castlerahen
J   McNally   Drumgoon
Joey   Jordan   Lavey
Michael   Hannon   Drumgoon
Damien   Prior Swanlinbar   
Sean   Brady   Castlerahan
Eoin   Elliott   Cavan Gaels
Darren   Rabbitt   Cavan Gaels
Karl   Crotty   Cavan Gaels
Trevor   Crowe   Lacken
Seanie  Smith Mullahoran
Andrew   Coleman   bailieborough
Raymond  Galligan Lacken   
Darren   Rabbitt   cavan Gaels
Nicholas   Walsh   Cavan Gaels
Paul   O'Dowd   Bailieborough
Eddie   O'Reilly   Mullahoran
C   McGovern   
Sean   Johnston   Cavan Gaels
Michael   Lyng   Cavan Gaels
Anthony   Gaynor   ballinagh
Shane   Cole Ramor Utd   
Martin   Cahill   Denn
Paul   Brady   Mullahoran
Patrick   Brady   Gowna
Lorcan   Mulvey   Belturbet
Peter   Reilly   Knockbride
Pauric   Reilly   ballinagh (duplicate of next)
Padraic  O'Reilly Ballinagh   
Cian   Mackey   castlerahan
Colm   Anderson   Cuchullains
Michael   Brennan   Drumalee
Gavin   Duffy Cavan Gaels   
J   Kiernan   
Padraig   Cahill Killygarry   
Ronan   Flanagan   Castlerahan
Dermot   McGlade Arva   
Cian   Mackay Castlerahen  
Eddie   O'Reilly  Mullahoran 
Jonathan   Crowe   Crosserlough
Donal   Thomas   Killygarry
Michael   Cunningham   Swandlinbar
Rory   Gallagher   Crosserlough
Martin   Reilly   Killygarry
Ray   Cullivan   Ballyhaise
Ciaran   Galligan   Drung
Dermot   Sheridan   Mullahoran
John   Clarke   Castlerahen (duplicate earlier)
Keith   Fannin   Drumgoon
John   McCutcheon   Coothehill
David   Rooney   Bailiborough
David   Givney   Mountnugent
Mark   McKeever   Gowna
Rory   Donohoe   Beturbet
Martin   Reilly   Killygarry
Ryan   McCormack   Kingscourt
Alan   Clarke   Kingscourt
Adrian   Fitzpatrick   Redhills
John   McCutcheon   Cootehill Celtic
Barry   Watters   Drung
Rory   Dunne   Redhills
John   Cunningham  Swanlinbar 
Michael   McDonald Drumgoon  
Enda   McCormack Drumalee   
Anton   Reilly Ramor Utd   
Paddy   Gumley   Redhills
Dane   O'Dowd   Redhills
Fintan   Reilly   Redhills
David   Givney  Mountnugent (duplicate above) 
Eugene   Keating   Cuchulains
Colm   Smith   Cuchulains
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on July 10, 2009, 12:17:51 PM
Quote from: RednBlack on July 10, 2009, 12:04:57 PM
Quote from: Bongo on July 10, 2009, 11:51:26 AM
Here is a start Gaelic Games.in

Well boss, any additions I made to the already fairly list were put in bold!

Aaron   Donohoe    Belturbet
Gerry   Sheridan    Bailieborough ( There was also a Gerry Sheridan from Mullahoran in the Early 90's)
Edward   Jackson   Drumgoon
Thomas   Prior   Swandlinbar
Anthony   Forde   Shannon Gaels/ Cavan Gaels
James   Doonan   Cavan Gaels
Peter   Reilly   Knockbride ( or Pauric Reilly Ballinagh)
Charles   Clarke   Bailieborough
Barry   McCrudden   Ballyhaise
Paul  Galligan   Ballinagh
John   Tierney   Knockbride
Raymond    Cunningham   Kingscourt / Kilmainhamwood
Michael   Graham   Cavan Gaels
Jason   O'Reilly   Belturbet
Finbarr   O'Reilly   Lacken (or Fintan Reilly Redhills)
Rapheal   Rogers   Knockbride
Bernard   Morris   Gowna
Finbarr   Reilly   Lacken
Dermot   McCabe   Gowna
Conor   McCarey   Kill
Hubert   Smith   Denn
Larry   Reilly   Knockbride
Michael   Brides   Redhills / St. Vincents
Rory   Donohoe Belturbet
Eddie   Reilly   Mullahoran (or Eamonn Reilly Cavan Gaels)
Colm   Hannon   Drumgoon
Cathal   Collins   Cavan Gaels
Pierce   McKenna   Kill
Gerald   Pierson   Gowna
Cormac   Nelligan   Cavan Gaels
B   Corrigan   Barry Corrigan Drumlane
Philip   Kermath  Ramor Utd.
James   Reilly   Drung
B   McGahon   
Mark   McKeever   Gowna
Patrick   Brady   Gowna
Sean   Maguire  Lavey 
Keith   Fannin   Drumgoon
Enda   King   Cavan Gaels
John   Clarke   Castlerahan
J   McNally   Drumgoon
Joey   Jordan   Lavey
Michael   Hannon   Drumgoon
Damien   Prior   Swanlinbar
Sean   Brady   Castlerahan
Eoin   Elliott   Cavan Gaels
Darren   Rabbitt   Cavan Gaels
Karl   Crotty   Cavan Gaels
Trevor   Crowe   Lacken
S   Smith   (Seanie Smith - am pretty sure he is a Mullahoran man)
Andrew   Coleman   bailieborough
R  Galligan   Raymond Galligan, Lacken
Darren   Rabbitt   cavan Gaels
Nicholas   Walsh   Cavan Gaels
Paul   O'Dowd   Bailieborough
Eddie   O'Reilly   Mullahoran
C   McGovern   
Sean   Johnston   Cavan Gaels
Michael   Lyng   Cavan Gaels
Anthony   Gaynor   ballinagh
S   Cole   Shane COle Ramor
Martin   Cahill   Denn
Paul   Brady   Mullahoran
Patrick   Brady   
Lorcan   Mulvey   Belturbet
Peter   Reilly   Knockbride
Pauric   Reilly   ballinagh
P   O'Reilly   
Cian   Mackey   castlerahan
Colm   Anderson   Cuchullains
Michael   Brennan   Drumalee
G   Duffy   Gavin Duffy Cavan Gales
J   Kiernan   
Padraig   Cahill   Killygarry
Ronan   Flanagan   Castlerahan
D   McGlade   Dermot McGlade Arva
Cian   Mackey Castlerahan  
Eddie   O'Reilly   Mullahoran
Jonathan   Crowe   Crosserlough
Donal   Thomas   Killygarry
Michael   Cunningham   Swandlinbar
Rory   Gallagher   Crosserlough
Martin   Reilly   Killygarry
Ray   Cullivan   Ballyhaise
Ciaran   Galligan   Drung
Dermot   Sheridan   Mullahoran
John   Clarke   Castlerahan
Keith   Fannin   Drumgoon
John   McCutcheon   Coothehill
David   Rooney   Bailiborough
David   Givney   Mountnugent
Mark   McKeever   Gowna
Rory   Donohoe   Belturbet
Martin   Reilly   Killygarry
Ryan   McCormack   Kingscourt
Alan   Clarke   Kingscourt
Adrian   Fitzpatrick   Redhills
John   McCutcheon   Cootehill
Barry   Watters   Ballyhaise
Rory   Dunne   Redhills
J   Cunningham   Swanlinbar
M   McDonald   Michael McDonald Drumgoon
E   McCormack   Enda McCormack Drumalee
Anton  Reilly Ramor   
Paddy   Gumley   Redhills
Dane   O'Dowd   DrumlaneFintan   Reilly   Redhills
David   Givney   Mountnugent
Eugene   Keating   Cuchulains
Colm   Smith   Cuchulains

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on July 10, 2009, 12:19:14 PM
Just to correct someone above, its Conor Smith that plays for CuCu's!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on July 10, 2009, 12:32:39 PM
A couple of possible pull-ups from above. I think C McGovern is Ciaran McGovern from Denn/Killygarry?
A Fitzpatrick could be Austin Fitzpatrick who Keoghan gave about 15 miinutes to two years ago-not sure if Adrian from Redhills ever played for Cavan.
Also does Brides not play for Oliver Plunkett?
Barry Watters plays for Drung, not Ballyhaise. Most likely thinking of Aiden.
Patrick Brady is from Gowna.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on July 10, 2009, 12:41:28 PM
see its only 10e into the game at the weekend and a fiver for OAP's and students. Nice to see the GAA not trying to rip us off with the qualifers and keep atttendances.

Saying that, I reckon there will be about 50 Cavan people at the game tomorrow....and that includes the players  :) :) :D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on July 10, 2009, 12:42:27 PM
Barry McGahan Cootehill
James Kiernan Ballymachugh

and yep doubt there will be 500 Cavan fans there
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on July 10, 2009, 01:23:18 PM
Quote from: put-it-up on July 10, 2009, 12:41:28 PM
see its only 10e into the game at the weekend and a fiver for OAP's and students. Nice to see the GAA not trying to rip us off with the qualifers and keep atttendances.

Saying that, I reckon there will be about 50 Cavan people at the game tomorrow....and that includes the players  :) :) :D

Id say there will be more, there are alot of Cavan people in Dublin who will probably head down. 
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on July 10, 2009, 02:25:14 PM
Quote from: RednBlack on July 10, 2009, 01:07:02 PM
fairly sure Brides plays for Oliver Plunketts in Dublin. wouldn't swear to it though

100% sure he plays for Oliver Plunketts/Eoghan Rua
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on July 10, 2009, 03:54:23 PM
Quote from: cavan4ever on July 10, 2009, 01:23:18 PM
Quote from: put-it-up on July 10, 2009, 12:41:28 PM
see its only 10e into the game at the weekend and a fiver for OAP's and students. Nice to see the GAA not trying to rip us off with the qualifers and keep atttendances.

Saying that, I reckon there will be about 50 Cavan people at the game tomorrow....and that includes the players  :) :) :D

Id say there will be more, there are alot of Cavan people in Dublin who will probably head down. 


We won't have much trouble bumping into each other so by the sound of things C4E. Where do you want to meet up beforehand
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on July 10, 2009, 04:01:43 PM
Quote from: anglocelt39 on July 10, 2009, 03:54:23 PM
Quote from: cavan4ever on July 10, 2009, 01:23:18 PM
Quote from: put-it-up on July 10, 2009, 12:41:28 PM
see its only 10e into the game at the weekend and a fiver for OAP's and students. Nice to see the GAA not trying to rip us off with the qualifers and keep atttendances.

Saying that, I reckon there will be about 50 Cavan people at the game tomorrow....and that includes the players  :) :) :D

Id say there will be more, there are alot of Cavan people in Dublin who will probably head down. 


We won't have much trouble bumping into each other so by the sound of things C4E. Where do you want to meet up beforehand

I dont know, was never down there before.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on July 10, 2009, 04:37:09 PM
Quote from: Homer on July 10, 2009, 12:08:08 PM

Here is a start Gaelic Games.in

Aaron   Donohoe    Belturbet
Gerry   Sheridan    Bailieborough ( There was also a Gerry Sheridan from Mullahoran in the Early 90's)
Edward   Jackson   Drumgoon
Thomas   Prior   Swandlinbar
Anthony   Forde   Shannon Gaels/ Cavan Gaels
James   Doonan   Cavan Gaels
Peter   Reilly   Knockbride ( or Pauric Reilly Ballinagh)
Charles   Clarke   Bailieborough
Barry   McCrudden   Ballyhaise
Paul  Galligan   Ballinagh
John   Tierney   Knockbride
Raymond    Cunningham   Kingscourt / Kilmainhamwood
Michael   Graham   Cavan Gaels
Jason   O'Reilly   Belturbet
Finbarr   O'Reilly   Lacken
Rapheal   Rogers   Knockbride
Bernard   Morris   Gowna
Finbar   Reilly Lacken / Fintan Reilly - Redhills    
Dermot   McCabe   Gowna
Conor   McCarey   Kill
Hubert   Smith   Denn
Larry   Reilly   Knockbride
Michael   Brides   Redhills / St. Vincents
Rory   Donohoe Belturbet
Eddie   Reilly   Mullahoran (or Eamonn Reilly Cavan Gaels)
Colm   Hannon   Drumgoon
Cathal   Collins   Cavan Gaels
Pierce   McKenna   Kill
Gerald   Pierson   Gowna
Cormac   Nelligan   Cavan Gaels
Barry   Corrigan Drumlane   
Philip   Kermath  Ramor Utd.
James   Reilly   Drung
Barry McGahon Cootehill 
Mark   McKeever   Gowna
Patrick   Brady   Gowna
Sean   Maguire   Lavey
Keith   Fannin   Drumgoon
Enda   King   Cavan Gaels
John   Clarke   Castlerahen
Jim    McNally   Drumgoon
Joey   Jordan   Lavey
Michael   Hannon   Drumgoon
Damien   Prior Swanlinbar   
Sean   Brady   Castlerahan
Eoin   Elliott   Cavan Gaels
Darren   Rabbitt   Cavan Gaels
Karl   Crotty   Cavan Gaels
Trevor   Crowe   Lacken
Seanie  Smith Mullahoran
Andrew   Coleman   bailieborough
Raymond  Galligan Lacken   
Darren   Rabbitt   cavan Gaels
Nicholas   Walsh   Cavan Gaels
Paul   O'Dowd   Bailieborough
Eddie   O'Reilly   Mullahoran
Ciaran McGovern  Denn
Sean   Johnston   Cavan Gaels
Michael   Lyng   Cavan Gaels
Anthony   Gaynor   ballinagh
Shane   Cole Ramor Utd   
Martin   Cahill   Denn
Paul   Brady   Mullahoran
Patrick   Brady   Gowna
Lorcan   Mulvey   Belturbet
Peter   Reilly   Knockbride
Pauric   Reilly   ballinagh (duplicate of next)
Padraic  O'Reilly Ballinagh   
Cian   Mackey   castlerahan
Colm   Anderson   Cuchullains
Michael   Brennan   Drumalee
Gavin   Duffy Cavan Gaels   
James  Kiernan Ballymachugh   
Padraig   Cahill Killygarry   
Ronan   Flanagan   Castlerahan
Dermot   McGlade Arva   
Cian   Mackay Castlerahen  
Eddie   O'Reilly  Mullahoran 
Jonathan   Crowe   Crosserlough
Donal   Thomas   Killygarry
Michael   Cunningham   Swandlinbar
Rory   Gallagher   Crosserlough
Martin   Reilly   Killygarry
Ray   Cullivan   Ballyhaise
Ciaran   Galligan   Drung
Dermot   Sheridan   Mullahoran
John   Clarke   Castlerahen (duplicate earlier)
Keith   Fannin   Drumgoon
John   McCutcheon   Coothehill
David   Rooney   Bailiborough
David   Givney   Mountnugent
Mark   McKeever   Gowna
Rory   Donohoe   Beturbet
Martin   Reilly   Killygarry
Ryan   McCormack   Kingscourt
Alan   Clarke   Kingscourt
Austin  Fitzpatrick   Killeshandra
John   McCutcheon   Cootehill Celtic
Barry   Watters   Drung
Rory   Dunne   Redhills
John   Cunningham  Swanlinbar 
Michael   McDonald Drumgoon  
Enda   McCormack Drumalee   
Anton   Reilly Ramor Utd   
Paddy   Gumley   Redhills
Dane   O'Dowd   Redhills
Fintan   Reilly   Redhills
David   Givney  Mountnugent (duplicate above) 
Eugene   Keating   Cuchulains
Conor  Smith   Cuchulains

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Babe Ruth 47 on July 10, 2009, 05:19:01 PM
Quote from: boojangles on July 10, 2009, 04:37:09 PM
Quote from: Homer on July 10, 2009, 12:08:08 PM

Here is a start Gaelic Games.in

Aaron   Donohoe    Belturbet
Gerry   Sheridan    Bailieborough ( There was also a Gerry Sheridan from Mullahoran in the Early 90's)
Edward   Jackson   Drumgoon
Thomas   Prior   Swandlinbar
Anthony   Forde   Shannon Gaels/ Cavan Gaels
James   Doonan   Cavan Gaels
Peter   Reilly   Knockbride ( or Pauric Reilly Ballinagh)
Charles   Clarke   Bailieborough
Barry   McCrudden   Ballyhaise
Paul  Galligan   Ballinagh
John   Tierney   Knockbride
Raymond    Cunningham   Kingscourt / Kilmainhamwood
Michael   Graham   Cavan Gaels
Jason   O'Reilly   Belturbet
Finbarr   O'Reilly   Lacken
Rapheal   Rogers   Knockbride
Bernard   Morris   Gowna
Finbar   Reilly Lacken / Fintan Reilly - Redhills    
Dermot   McCabe   Gowna
Conor   McCarey   Kill
Hubert   Smith   Denn
Larry   Reilly   Knockbride
Michael   Brides   Redhills / St. Vincents
Rory   Donohoe Belturbet
Eddie   Reilly   Mullahoran (or Eamonn Reilly Cavan Gaels)
Colm   Hannon   Drumgoon
Cathal   Collins   Cavan Gaels
Pierce   McKenna   Kill
Gerald   Pierson   Gowna
Cormac   Nelligan   Cavan Gaels
Barry   Corrigan Drumlane   
Philip   Kermath  Ramor Utd.
James   Reilly   Drung
Barry McGahon Cootehill 
Mark   McKeever   Gowna
Patrick   Brady   Gowna
Sean   Maguire   Lavey
Keith   Fannin   Drumgoon
Enda   King   Cavan Gaels
John   Clarke   Castlerahen
Jim    McNally   Drumgoon
Joey   Jordan   Lavey
Michael   Hannon   Drumgoon
Damien   Prior Swanlinbar   
Sean   Brady   Castlerahan
Eoin   Elliott   Cavan Gaels
Darren   Rabbitt   Cavan Gaels
Karl   Crotty   Cavan Gaels
Trevor   Crowe   Lacken
Seanie  Smith Mullahoran
Andrew   Coleman   bailieborough
Raymond  Galligan Lacken   ---------------- Could be Raymond Galligan, Killygarry either. He had a short league stint with the conty during the league 6/7 years ago.
Darren   Rabbitt   cavan Gaels
Nicholas   Walsh   Cavan Gaels
Paul   O'Dowd   Bailieborough
Eddie   O'Reilly   Mullahoran
Ciaran McGovern  Denn
Sean   Johnston   Cavan Gaels
Michael   Lyng   Cavan Gaels
Anthony   Gaynor   ballinagh
Shane   Cole Ramor Utd   
Martin   Cahill   Denn
Paul   Brady   Mullahoran
Patrick   Brady   Gowna
Lorcan   Mulvey   Belturbet
Peter   Reilly   Knockbride
Pauric   Reilly   ballinagh (duplicate of next)
Padraic  O'Reilly Ballinagh   
Cian   Mackey   castlerahan
Colm   Anderson   Cuchullains
Michael   Brennan   Drumalee
Gavin   Duffy Cavan Gaels   
James  Kiernan Ballymachugh   
Padraig   Cahill Killygarry   
Ronan   Flanagan   Castlerahan
Dermot   McGlade Arva   
Cian   Mackay Castlerahen  
Eddie   O'Reilly  Mullahoran 
Jonathan   Crowe   Crosserlough
Donal   Thomas   Killygarry
Michael   Cunningham   Swandlinbar
Rory   Gallagher   Crosserlough
Martin   Reilly   Killygarry
Ray   Cullivan   Ballyhaise
Ciaran   Galligan   Drung
Dermot   Sheridan   Mullahoran
John   Clarke   Castlerahen (duplicate earlier)
Keith   Fannin   Drumgoon
John   McCutcheon   Coothehill
David   Rooney   Bailiborough
David   Givney   Mountnugent
Mark   McKeever   Gowna
Rory   Donohoe   Beturbet
Martin   Reilly   Killygarry
Ryan   McCormack   Kingscourt
Alan   Clarke   Kingscourt
Austin  Fitzpatrick   Killeshandra
John   McCutcheon   Cootehill Celtic
Barry   Watters   Drung
Rory   Dunne   Redhills
John   Cunningham  Swanlinbar 
Michael   McDonald Drumgoon  
Enda   McCormack Drumalee   
Anton   Reilly Ramor Utd   
Paddy   Gumley   Redhills
Dane   O'Dowd   Redhills
Fintan   Reilly   Redhills
David   Givney  Mountnugent (duplicate above) 
Eugene   Keating   Cuchulains
Conor  Smith   Cuchulains

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on July 10, 2009, 07:11:38 PM
Gaelic Games you forgot my clubmate
Barry Lynch,  Played under Val Andrews in either 99 or 00
Came on against Derry and nullified big Geoffrey  ;), Didnt make much difference though as we still got kicked off the field.  :'(
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on July 10, 2009, 08:00:42 PM
Alan Curran also played league around 2001 i think.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on July 10, 2009, 08:12:37 PM
Quote from: cavan4ever on July 10, 2009, 04:01:43 PM
Quote from: anglocelt39 on July 10, 2009, 03:54:23 PM
Quote from: cavan4ever on July 10, 2009, 01:23:18 PM
Quote from: put-it-up on July 10, 2009, 12:41:28 PM
see its only 10e into the game at the weekend and a fiver for OAP's and students. Nice to see the GAA not trying to rip us off with the qualifers and keep atttendances.

Saying that, I reckon there will be about 50 Cavan people at the game tomorrow....and that includes the players  :) :) :D

Id say there will be more, there are alot of Cavan people in Dublin who will probably head down. 


We won't have much trouble bumping into each other so by the sound of things C4E. Where do you want to meet up beforehand

I dont know, was never down there before.



Very disappointed but not altogether surprised to hear you've never been there before given that we travelled the few hours four years ago to watch our division three league fixture against the Garden County, we scraped out with a one point win. For a kid that likes to dish out the pay about the attendance record of an exile like myself I'm sure you had a valid excuse though. Were you making youir confirmation on the day? Anyway look forward to meeting you tomorrow, Lawless's hotel is the pre match venue, bring your fake id
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on July 10, 2009, 08:50:46 PM
Quote from: anglocelt39 on July 10, 2009, 08:12:37 PM
Quote from: cavan4ever on July 10, 2009, 04:01:43 PM
Quote from: anglocelt39 on July 10, 2009, 03:54:23 PM
Quote from: cavan4ever on July 10, 2009, 01:23:18 PM
Quote from: put-it-up on July 10, 2009, 12:41:28 PM
see its only 10e into the game at the weekend and a fiver for OAP's and students. Nice to see the GAA not trying to rip us off with the qualifers and keep atttendances.

Saying that, I reckon there will be about 50 Cavan people at the game tomorrow....and that includes the players  :) :) :D

Id say there will be more, there are alot of Cavan people in Dublin who will probably head down. 


We won't have much trouble bumping into each other so by the sound of things C4E. Where do you want to meet up beforehand

I dont know, was never down there before.



Very disappointed but not altogether surprised to hear you've never been there before given that we travelled the few hours four years ago to watch our division three league fixture against the Garden County, we scraped out with a one point win. For a kid that likes to dish out the pay about the attendance record of an exile like myself I'm sure you had a valid excuse though. Were you making youir confirmation on the day? Anyway look forward to meeting you tomorrow, Lawless's hotel is the pre match venue, bring your fake id

No i was at a family funeral if you must know you ****.

And was it not a division 2B game.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on July 10, 2009, 09:02:43 PM
Quote from: cavan4ever on July 10, 2009, 08:50:46 PM
Quote from: anglocelt39 on July 10, 2009, 08:12:37 PM
Quote from: cavan4ever on July 10, 2009, 04:01:43 PM
Quote from: anglocelt39 on July 10, 2009, 03:54:23 PM
Quote from: cavan4ever on July 10, 2009, 01:23:18 PM
Quote from: put-it-up on July 10, 2009, 12:41:28 PM
see its only 10e into the game at the weekend and a fiver for OAP's and students. Nice to see the GAA not trying to rip us off with the qualifers and keep atttendances.

Saying that, I reckon there will be about 50 Cavan people at the game tomorrow....and that includes the players  :) :) :D

Id say there will be more, there are alot of Cavan people in Dublin who will probably head down. 


We won't have much trouble bumping into each other so by the sound of things C4E. Where do you want to meet up beforehand

I dont know, was never down there before.



Very disappointed but not altogether surprised to hear you've never been there before given that we travelled the few hours four years ago to watch our division three league fixture against the Garden County, we scraped out with a one point win. For a kid that likes to dish out the pay about the attendance record of an exile like myself I'm sure you had a valid excuse though. Were you making youir confirmation on the day? Anyway look forward to meeting you tomorrow, Lawless's hotel is the pre match venue, bring your fake id

No i was at a family funeral if you must know you ****.

And was it not a division 2B game.



Hook, line, sinker,


See you tomorrow C4E
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on July 10, 2009, 09:14:49 PM
Quote from: anglocelt39 on July 10, 2009, 09:02:43 PM
Quote from: cavan4ever on July 10, 2009, 08:50:46 PM
Quote from: anglocelt39 on July 10, 2009, 08:12:37 PM
Quote from: cavan4ever on July 10, 2009, 04:01:43 PM
Quote from: anglocelt39 on July 10, 2009, 03:54:23 PM
Quote from: cavan4ever on July 10, 2009, 01:23:18 PM
Quote from: put-it-up on July 10, 2009, 12:41:28 PM
see its only 10e into the game at the weekend and a fiver for OAP's and students. Nice to see the GAA not trying to rip us off with the qualifers and keep atttendances.

Saying that, I reckon there will be about 50 Cavan people at the game tomorrow....and that includes the players  :) :) :D

Id say there will be more, there are alot of Cavan people in Dublin who will probably head down. 


We won't have much trouble bumping into each other so by the sound of things C4E. Where do you want to meet up beforehand

I dont know, was never down there before.



Very disappointed but not altogether surprised to hear you've never been there before given that we travelled the few hours four years ago to watch our division three league fixture against the Garden County, we scraped out with a one point win. For a kid that likes to dish out the pay about the attendance record of an exile like myself I'm sure you had a valid excuse though. Were you making youir confirmation on the day? Anyway look forward to meeting you tomorrow, Lawless's hotel is the pre match venue, bring your fake id

No i was at a family funeral if you must know you ****.

And was it not a division 2B game.



Hook, line, sinker,


See you tomorrow C4E

Well at least you will be fit to talk about the game without relying on reports from others.  This your first game this year?, you must be excited.

Well im off to courtneys for a few, mind the roads anyone thats travelling tomorrow.

And hopefully not.



Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tierworker blue on July 11, 2009, 01:04:35 AM
Quote from: cavan4ever on July 10, 2009, 01:23:18 PM
Quote from: put-it-up on July 10, 2009, 12:41:28 PM
see its only 10e into the game at the weekend and a fiver for OAP's and students. Nice to see the GAA not trying to rip us off with the qualifers and keep atttendances.

Saying that, I reckon there will be about 50 Cavan people at the game tomorrow....and that includes the players  :) :) :D

Id say there will be more, there are alot of Cavan people in Dublin who will probably head down. 

Yeah, there'll be feck all. We may huddle together for warmth and support !  ;D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on July 11, 2009, 09:43:07 AM
C4E thanks for the PM. See ya in Lawless's later. Tierworker Blue, is the North Melbourne Guernsey getting an outing?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on July 11, 2009, 11:28:51 AM
Come on the lads.

Its Northern Sound for me but will they have the Roscommon game?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tierworker blue on July 11, 2009, 12:20:51 PM
Quote from: anglocelt39 on July 11, 2009, 09:43:07 AM
C4E thanks for the PM. See ya in Lawless's later. Tierworker Blue, is the North Melbourne Guernsey getting an outing?

Jaysus, it's been years since I wore that (although it has been farmed out to others for the odd match or two)...well spotted Anglocelt!
I must dig it out again for the craic, although probably not today...I believe it's forecasting inclement weather conditions, so a sleeveless top would hardly be fitting attire!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on July 11, 2009, 12:23:32 PM
well im just getting to ready to butter a few hang sangiches!
Gona need some body fuel on this journey!
Hopefully the sun starts shininng so I can enjoy a few whippy's!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on July 11, 2009, 04:34:39 PM
On the way down now with other 2 boys. Another 97 Cavan fans and I'd be suprised unfortunately. Anyone know what weather its giving for later on? 
Also pity to see the neighbours put in their place, I mean beaten
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on July 11, 2009, 08:44:32 PM
some fuckin joke
getting hammered by Wicklow
Celt Man, Ac,C4ever and Put it up have a long journey home.

Lads i didnt think it was possible but, we have sank even lower than last year,
Under Keoghan last year, We beat Antrim,Lost to Armagh and to a last minute goal against a good Kildare team.
Add to that we performed far better even in relegation from Division 2 in the league  than we did this year.
Now i and no-one here thinks the Keoghan era was anything other than a disaster.
But Carr has taken this team into a position where we have lost to Antrim and Wicklow in the same championship and done nothing in the league.
id be happy to hear from our travelling brethern whether they think Carr should be given another year after this years debacle, i dont honestly think he should be.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Blue06 on July 11, 2009, 08:49:44 PM
BH Man you may bump up that Tommy Carr Must Go thread of yours.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on July 11, 2009, 08:51:52 PM
Quote from: Blue06 on July 11, 2009, 08:49:44 PM
BH Man you may bump up that Tommy Carr Must Go thread of yours.


i deleted it Blue06
I wouldnt get abuse for starting one now, thats for sure.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on July 11, 2009, 08:58:44 PM
Well done to the Lads who went down there.  

The weather sounded brutal on the radio.  And unfortuneately so did the team.  

Could those there let us know was it as one sided as the commentary sounded?  How did the Wicklow backs keep Johnson to scores from frees only?  Fair or foul means?  After a promising start, I didn't hear much of Pierson and Larry Reilly was out where he could do no damage.

Lets see how Antrim and Wicklow do from now on.  As much as we don't like it, we are on a par with these teams i.e. Division 3/4 teams.

Again, fair f.cks to the lads who went down.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on July 11, 2009, 09:31:22 PM
Where to start... Currenty on the way home absolutely disgusted and soaked to the skin... Cavan seemed devoid of a game plan and seemed to have no idea how to deal with an extra man sittin in defence. Once they had it to look for the final ball they hadn't a clue what to do. There are little or no leaders in that Cavan team - once again it was left to boys like Larry to try and carry the ball around the middle. I don't think tactically Carr has it but unfortunately we don't have the players either
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on July 11, 2009, 09:32:42 PM
This game for me was always going to set the tone for the rest of TC's reign. I'm afraid it doesn't look good if this is the best he can do as regards getting the best out of the players. Cavan are now effectively ranked among the very worst teams in the country based on the last two performances, it's hard to credit it. At the moment we might beat Kilkenny or London and give a game to Carlow but every other team would be well fancied to beat us.

In a county where we eat, sleep, drink and spend vast amounts of money on the sport of gaelic football, it's an incredibly sobering and saddening realisation to have to make.

I think I'm going to take a long break from actually giving a shite about the county team, until such a time as they deserve it. Support has been unconditional and blind for far too long and I'm now at the stage where I just couldn't give a fiddler's fart about the whole shooting lot of it. You'll find a lot of folks thinking the same thing, I mean nobody is going to retain any sort of interest in such a dead loss.

How could the squad and manager pick itself up and face into next year with any sort of enthusiasm, after the tame, sheepish capitulations of the last two games. We've really hit rock bottom. Very hard to see any sort of future for us at this precise moment in time.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on July 11, 2009, 10:41:46 PM
BHM man analysis about right. Gone from throwing a game against Kildare away last year ( a bloody good Kildare team as it happens) to getting CONVINCINGLY beaten by Antrim AND Wicklow. However, one thing sticks out like a dogs balls and that's the fact that the "heroes of 97" have more or less departed all at once. It was never going to be easy for Carr and so it has come to pass.

We are where we are I'm afraid-from our last really competitive team Rabbitte, Forde, Doonan, McCabe, Peter Reilly, Larry Reilly, Jason, Gaynor, Mckeever, Paul Galligan, Finbar Reilly, Mickey Graham etc. etc. etc. are gone and the lads that are coming through haven't exactly got a winning habit so it's going to be a long way back. I'm gutted for the players that were out there tonight, none of them went out to let themselves or anybody else down and I think there is so much TC can do, I'm just not sure the players are there right now.

At the moment we are a division three team hovering on the brink of division 4 and maybe we need to get used to it. As a mate of mine said tonight "39 Ulster's, five sam's, pissed on by by Antrim and Wicklow. If your father was alive he'd turn in his grave". Not as he'd intended but I got the sentiment.

As far as I'm concerned, thanks to the players who put the effort in since January and hope next year brings better things. Just look back at the report on the Fermanagh match in the Cavan Echo online and think how things might get better. On that desperately optimistic note I'm off for a skinful
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on July 11, 2009, 11:20:16 PM
The team according to a hoganstand poster was

1.James Reily
2.Michael Hannon
3.Dermot Sheridan
4.Michael Brides
5.Rory Dunne
6.Paul Brady
7.Ronan Flanagan
8.Ray Cullivan
9.Nicholas Walsh
10.Eugene Keating
11.Sean Brady
12.Ciaran Galligan
13.Gerard Pierson
14.Larry Reily
15.Sean Johnston.

a midfield of a 5'11 Ray Cullivan and 6'1 Nicholas Walsh against Thomas Walsh and James Stafford both 6'5
>:( im sure that worked out well.
Lads how did each player play? did anyone have a good game?



Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tierworker blue on July 11, 2009, 11:55:11 PM
Just in the door after a long, horrible evening, absolutely soaked to the skin and trying to stave off the onset of hypothermia.
Fair play to the few who made the journey. Man, the things we do for Cavan football...I'm honestly wondering if I need my head examined!
It was a divil of a journey down, a divil to get parked, a divil of a game with unbelievably bad rain and wind, a divil of a result and then a divil of a journey home (You can substitute something fruitier for 'divil'...I'm just too polite to curse online!)
Like the rest of y'all, I'm annoyed / depressed / ashamed / worried etc etc...We are totally in limbo, and it's such a long road back to any semblance of success and that's hard to take. I'm too knackered to disect the game at the moment but sure there's hardly much point anyway...It's the same old story.
I see Bruce Willis is saving the world on the telly now...I wonder could he save Cavan football?! Now there's a thought............

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on July 12, 2009, 12:11:45 AM
Well that was more or less like the antrim game except I travelled three hours in the car and got soaked for an hour an a half due to the lack of cover!

Ah im not going to give out too much, I thought we would see a big performance after the Antrim game but it was a disaster. Tactically, well there is not much to talk about because there did not seem to be any tactic. I'm not saying any of the players were not comittmited, of course they were, but there was no genuine belief. I genuinely feel, Cavan have fallen into a habit of losing and habits are hard to break. I thought after the Fermanagh game we had turned a corner, but its turned out to be one step forward and three back .

Despite the difference in height at MF, we were not cleaned out but we were destroyed on the breaking ball. A couple of times I saw Sean Brady, Paul Brady and Rorry Dunne going up for the kickout - when there job should be sweeping in for breaks. That is basic stuff. Gunner was quite good though and was arguably our best performer.

Did not understand the reason the play Galligan WF and a lot of question marks will be raised about Keating now (whipped off mid-way through first-half).

FF line started well, but poor supply came in and at times Cavan players treated the ball like a hot potato when building an attack. Nobody wanted to take control of the situation. As i said, the lack of belief and execution was shocking.

Cavan football is at a real crossroads now. Does Carr deserve to stay in the job?On this year's performances probably not but I WOULD NOT sack him. He got given the job to start rebuilding and I am hoping that we have to go back before we can go forward. Anyway who else would take the job here? Carr is not free of blame but don't forget he is trying to change the mentality of 30 players who more or less have never suceeded at IC at any level. As much as we all want it, it just doesnt happen over night.

What I would like to see is for players who are playing well in the club championship to be given a shot next year. A few new faces who maybe have not played minor or u21 with Cavan you know?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on July 12, 2009, 12:14:44 AM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on July 11, 2009, 11:20:16 PM
The team according to a hoganstand poster was

1.James Reily
2.Michael Hannon
3.Dermot Sheridan
4.Michael Brides
5.Rory Dunne
6.Paul Brady
7.Ronan Flanagan
8.Ray Cullivan
9.Nicholas Walsh
10.Eugene Keating
11.Sean Brady
12.Ciaran Galligan
13.Gerard Pierson
14.Larry Reily
15.Sean Johnston.

a midfield of a 5'11 Ray Cullivan and 6'1 Nicholas Walsh against Thomas Walsh and James Stafford both 6'5
>:( im sure that worked out well.
Lads how did each player play? did anyone have a good game?





Honestly no point doing player ratings mate. Would only drag morale down even further!

Havin a cuppa and watching bruce save the world myself..and trying to forget a miserable day!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Babe Ruth 47 on July 12, 2009, 12:26:17 AM
Just in after the most miserable 3 hour journey in wet clothes imaginable. What a hole of a grounds. Actually had a ticket with a seat number on it, thought I might get some cover but it was just taken off me. Diabolical display. No leadership, direction nor gameplan. Midfield diabolical. Although Cullivan tried hard,  his height is always going to restrict him. Walsh is not an intercounty midfielder. No ability, engine, workrate, nor read of a ball. Pierson started brightly but quickly faded. Our full back line did ok. They managed to pick up a lot of ball. This definately wasn't as a result of being in front of their men but just picking up breaks from the sloppy handling of their counterparts. Gunner was quite good, Keating a disaster, Brady anonymous, Dunne poor etc.etc.etc........
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on July 12, 2009, 12:28:24 AM
Quote from: put-it-up on July 12, 2009, 12:14:44 AM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on July 11, 2009, 11:20:16 PM
The team according to a hoganstand poster was

1.James Reily
2.Michael Hannon
3.Dermot Sheridan
4.Michael Brides
5.Rory Dunne
6.Paul Brady
7.Ronan Flanagan
8.Ray Cullivan
9.Nicholas Walsh
10.Eugene Keating
11.Sean Brady
12.Ciaran Galligan
13.Gerard Pierson
14.Larry Reily
15.Sean Johnston.

a midfield of a 5'11 Ray Cullivan and 6'1 Nicholas Walsh against Thomas Walsh and James Stafford both 6'5
>:( im sure that worked out well.
Lads how did each player play? did anyone have a good game?





Honestly no point doing player ratings mate. Would only drag morale down even further!

Havin a cuppa and watching bruce save the world myself..and trying to forget a miserable day!

Only home now, absolutely soaking and miserable -  just remembered that Brucie is on tele which will cheer me up no end, turn on the tele and it's not working coz of the aerial being fucked... WORST DAY EVER
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on July 12, 2009, 12:47:09 AM
hang in there Celt Man, tomorrow is a new day!

On a positive note, club football will get going again!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on July 12, 2009, 11:35:56 AM
Quote from: RednBlack on July 12, 2009, 10:22:46 AM
just about dried out. what a pisser of a night.

Miller has to be one of the best shot stoppers in the game but thats twice this year a high ball has seen him beaten in the air. He should have come and cleaned the Wicklow lad out. Dermot Sheridan scrapped well but IMO is not a full back.

Flanagan bust a gut all night and looked far better at wing back and caught two great balls. Gunner has a habit of bombing forward and leaves big vacant holes behind.

Over the championship season I think its very important that TC finds 4 players for the middle of the park diamond.

Middle of the park competed ok, very slow to get into game but the second half saw an improvement with nothing coming off it. Cullivan has to learn not to jump through his own guys. He was at this in Armagh at U21 game this year and did it 2 or 3 times in second half when we had a sneaking chance of getting back into it.

Keating and S Brady not at it and Mackey not much better when he arrived. Keating had the ball in hand something like 16 times when he was on and turned it over 11. He needs to work on his delivery technique. Simple ball works better than a sexy slice kick making it very  hard for the receiver to grab hold of it. Especially on anight like last night.

Galligan was in as an out option on kickouts to avoid their middle but how many times did Miller send the ball his way?

FF line. Larry ended up coming way out to look for ball as the HF line not getting it in. Left Seanie marshalled by 2 -3 lads at times and Pierson faded in and out but it looked better for having him in there. If he had only carried the ball another 10 yards before shooting in the second half when we had them under a bit of pressure.

Where do we go from here? Up I hope as surely these players will have now learned whats needed at IC level to succeed.

Rather than the regional games played before Christmas where players didnt really give a damn about them I would love to see a Regional  Championship brought in that would have a bit of bit.

Break the county up into 8 regions with five clubs feeding into each side. Give up an coming coaches and managers the repsonsibility to look after them, try units from club teams out together to see how they work. Might just increase the standard of senior football as the current club football in Cavan is so poor.

Only a thought as something has to be done.


Not a bad suggestion RnB, but I think because of the time of year they are played at, it is hard to judge lads and interest from players does wane. And dont forget we already have a massive backlog of club fixtures and an U21 championship to run. The latter I think should be scrapped, if they are going to play it at the end of the year.

It really is a hard problem to solve. Amalgamations in the senior championship clearly are not the answer either.

But I do feel it is time to drag in a few new faces from the club scene. I know there are not many outstanding candidates, but I think TC has to search high and low for a hard-working, man-marking Corner back in the mould of Dessie Mone and a FB. It is clear Dermot Sheridan is not a natural FB, though I would like to see him given a chance in the HB line in next year's McKenna Cup.

MF really is a problem. Young McKiernan will definetly mature into one of our midfielderss but probably not for another two years, so we need short term solutions in that department. Easier said than done, I know. On kickouts I thought we had no system. I know James has a massive kick, but I have said this before, distance does not secure possession. If his kick is going 60 yards and coming straight back, its not helping anyone. Galligan was not used at all at WF, I agree with you there RnB.

I thought our FF line yesterday looked far more potent, but it was a poxy evening and the supply coming in was shite. Our HF line was atrocious. Provided no link from defence to attack. How many times did Flanagan, Brady or even Hannon carry the ball out of defence only to overrun it around the Wicklow 40 because a lack of support?

really interested to hear what TC said to the media and how he feels we can progress from here.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on July 12, 2009, 12:17:48 PM
Thought it best to leave it until today to post-not in much humour soaked to the skin at midnight to turn on the PC. It's good to see a lot of rational posts I have to say.
Firstly conditions were dreadful. Some handling errors can be put down to that but it affected both sides. Miller was completely to blame for the goal and for all his shot-stopping ability he's an accident waiting to happen and it happened yesterday. Our FB line did ok but by chance with Sheridan being a yard off all the time but his attempt at a tackle often breaking the ball due the conditions. I though Brides improved from the last day and actually hit a few hefty shoulders in the first half which was at least heartening. Gunner was outstanding in the first half and I thought Flanagan was good too. I'm a big fan of Dunne's ability. The problems lie with his desire/aggression and finding a position for him. He also has very little pace. Keating & Sean Brady were woeful. Galliagan tried his best. I thought Pierson was also outstanding first half holding every ball given the conditions.
In all a woeful result and season. It's hard to know where to start. We're not a great team but we're better than we've shown. It's mostly upstairs where the problems are. Belief/aggression and decision making need major work and that's where the management team come in. There's no way we should be looking for Carr to go but he needs to take what he can from this year and build on it. He needs a strong competitor to keep Miler on his toes. He needs Eoin Smith or Darren Rabbitte to compete for full-back. A couple of corner backs wouldn't go amiss either. Sheridan needs to be tried at wing back as he's one lad not lacking desire. Keating and Brady need kicks to the arse and at midfield I'm liking the look of Declan McKiernan. Pierson and Jelly fully fit and committed would be a geat option.

I'm rambling a bit but I'm just tyring to say that we can't be that far from being a decent team.

On a side note I would like to make my disgust known at a few Cavan fans in the terrace shouting abuse at Keating & Sean Brady when they were being taken off and also at the referee. You hear the same boys giving out about the negative soccer traits of diving etc coming in to GAA. Well this abuse is the worst thing to come across from soccer IMO. Regardless of how good/bad a player or referee is performing they're doing it for little reward and abuse is unilikely to make them want to do it any better. If a player isn't trying then maybe shout at him to run or whatever but this type of shite puts me off going near games.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on July 12, 2009, 12:56:07 PM
Quote from: Lawrence of Knockbride on July 12, 2009, 12:17:48 PM
Thought it best to leave it until today to post-not in much humour soaked to the skin at midnight to turn on the PC. It's good to see a lot of rational posts I have to say.
Firstly conditions were dreadful. Some handling errors can be put down to that but it affected both sides. Miller was completely to blame for the goal and for all his shot-stopping ability he's an accident waiting to happen and it happened yesterday. Our FB line did ok but by chance with Sheridan being a yard off all the time but his attempt at a tackle often breaking the ball due the conditions. I though Brides improved from the last day and actually hit a few hefty shoulders in the first half which was at least heartening. Gunner was outstanding in the first half and I thought Flanagan was good too. I'm a big fan of Dunne's ability. The problems lie with his desire/aggression and finding a position for him. He also has very little pace. Keating & Sean Brady were woeful. Galliagan tried his best. I thought Pierson was also outstanding first half holding every ball given the conditions.
In all a woeful result and season. It's hard to know where to start. We're not a great team but we're better than we've shown. It's mostly upstairs where the problems are. Belief/aggression and decision making need major work and that's where the management team come in. There's no way we should be looking for Carr to go but he needs to take what he can from this year and build on it. He needs a strong competitor to keep Miler on his toes. He needs Eoin Smith or Darren Rabbitte to compete for full-back. A couple of corner backs wouldn't go amiss either. Sheridan needs to be tried at wing back as he's one lad not lacking desire. Keating and Brady need kicks to the arse and at midfield I'm liking the look of Declan McKiernan. Pierson and Jelly fully fit and committed would be a geat option.

I'm rambling a bit but I'm just tyring to say that we can't be that far from being a decent team.

On a side note I would like to make my disgust known at a few Cavan fans in the terrace shouting abuse at Keating & Sean Brady when they were being taken off and also at the referee. You hear the same boys giving out about the negative soccer traits of diving etc coming in to GAA. Well this abuse is the worst thing to come across from soccer IMO. Regardless of how good/bad a player or referee is performing they're doing it for little reward and abuse is unilikely to make them want to do it any better. If a player isn't trying then maybe shout at him to run or whatever but this type of shite puts me off going near games.

More or less agree wit everything you have said Lawrence. Especially the point about Sheridan standing a foot off his man everytime. That just shows he is not a FB.
Miller was at fault for the goal, watched it again on line and he should cleaned your man out. He really does have no genuine competition at the minute.
Agree about Dunne, his lack of pace lets him down but I do think he will develop into an IC player. Still only 19 remember.
Keating was appaling and Brady, well I just dont think I have ever seen him play well in a blue jersey.

i think we should should just draw a line under yesterday and start talking about what we need for next year. No point of us keep saying how crap yesterday was. But one last time, it was crap  ;D

I was on the terrace and didn't hear abuse when they were being taken off, I heard one or two shouts during the game alright but that can be understood, fans get frustrated too and are entitled too. Once it is not personal abuse, it is just forgotten about.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on July 12, 2009, 01:08:40 PM
Quote from: put-it-up on July 12, 2009, 12:56:07 PM
Quote from: Lawrence of Knockbride on July 12, 2009, 12:17:48 PM
Thought it best to leave it until today to post-not in much humour soaked to the skin at midnight to turn on the PC. It's good to see a lot of rational posts I have to say.
Firstly conditions were dreadful. Some handling errors can be put down to that but it affected both sides. Miller was completely to blame for the goal and for all his shot-stopping ability he's an accident waiting to happen and it happened yesterday. Our FB line did ok but by chance with Sheridan being a yard off all the time but his attempt at a tackle often breaking the ball due the conditions. I though Brides improved from the last day and actually hit a few hefty shoulders in the first half which was at least heartening. Gunner was outstanding in the first half and I thought Flanagan was good too. I'm a big fan of Dunne's ability. The problems lie with his desire/aggression and finding a position for him. He also has very little pace. Keating & Sean Brady were woeful. Galliagan tried his best. I thought Pierson was also outstanding first half holding every ball given the conditions.
In all a woeful result and season. It's hard to know where to start. We're not a great team but we're better than we've shown. It's mostly upstairs where the problems are. Belief/aggression and decision making need major work and that's where the management team come in. There's no way we should be looking for Carr to go but he needs to take what he can from this year and build on it. He needs a strong competitor to keep Miler on his toes. He needs Eoin Smith or Darren Rabbitte to compete for full-back. A couple of corner backs wouldn't go amiss either. Sheridan needs to be tried at wing back as he's one lad not lacking desire. Keating and Brady need kicks to the arse and at midfield I'm liking the look of Declan McKiernan. Pierson and Jelly fully fit and committed would be a geat option.

I'm rambling a bit but I'm just tyring to say that we can't be that far from being a decent team.

On a side note I would like to make my disgust known at a few Cavan fans in the terrace shouting abuse at Keating & Sean Brady when they were being taken off and also at the referee. You hear the same boys giving out about the negative soccer traits of diving etc coming in to GAA. Well this abuse is the worst thing to come across from soccer IMO. Regardless of how good/bad a player or referee is performing they're doing it for little reward and abuse is unilikely to make them want to do it any better. If a player isn't trying then maybe shout at him to run or whatever but this type of shite puts me off going near games.

More or less agree wit everything you have said Lawrence. Especially the point about Sheridan standing a foot off his man everytime. That just shows he is not a FB.
Miller was at fault for the goal, watched it again on line and he should cleaned your man out. He really does have no genuine competition at the minute.
Agree about Dunne, his lack of pace lets him down but I do think he will develop into an IC player. Still only 19 remember.
Keating was appaling and Brady, well I just dont think I have ever seen him play well in a blue jersey.

i think we should should just draw a line under yesterday and start talking about what we need for next year. No point of us keep saying how crap yesterday was. But one last time, it was crap  ;D

I was on the terrace and didn't hear abuse when they were being taken off, I heard one or two shouts during the game alright but that can be understood, fans get frustrated too and are entitled too. Once it is not personal abuse, it is just forgotten about.
I agree, but it was personal. "About time you useless bastard" was one I remember. And I think we had more to worry about than a few poor refereeing decisions also.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on July 12, 2009, 01:17:50 PM
Will a player who doesnt have the pace at 19 to be a sucess as an IC footballer have the pace at an older age?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on July 12, 2009, 01:22:54 PM
Quote from: Lawrence of Knockbride on July 12, 2009, 01:08:40 PM
Quote from: put-it-up on July 12, 2009, 12:56:07 PM
Quote from: Lawrence of Knockbride on July 12, 2009, 12:17:48 PM
Thought it best to leave it until today to post-not in much humour soaked to the skin at midnight to turn on the PC. It's good to see a lot of rational posts I have to say.
Firstly conditions were dreadful. Some handling errors can be put down to that but it affected both sides. Miller was completely to blame for the goal and for all his shot-stopping ability he's an accident waiting to happen and it happened yesterday. Our FB line did ok but by chance with Sheridan being a yard off all the time but his attempt at a tackle often breaking the ball due the conditions. I though Brides improved from the last day and actually hit a few hefty shoulders in the first half which was at least heartening. Gunner was outstanding in the first half and I thought Flanagan was good too. I'm a big fan of Dunne's ability. The problems lie with his desire/aggression and finding a position for him. He also has very little pace. Keating & Sean Brady were woeful. Galliagan tried his best. I thought Pierson was also outstanding first half holding every ball given the conditions.
In all a woeful result and season. It's hard to know where to start. We're not a great team but we're better than we've shown. It's mostly upstairs where the problems are. Belief/aggression and decision making need major work and that's where the management team come in. There's no way we should be looking for Carr to go but he needs to take what he can from this year and build on it. He needs a strong competitor to keep Miler on his toes. He needs Eoin Smith or Darren Rabbitte to compete for full-back. A couple of corner backs wouldn't go amiss either. Sheridan needs to be tried at wing back as he's one lad not lacking desire. Keating and Brady need kicks to the arse and at midfield I'm liking the look of Declan McKiernan. Pierson and Jelly fully fit and committed would be a geat option.

I'm rambling a bit but I'm just tyring to say that we can't be that far from being a decent team.

On a side note I would like to make my disgust known at a few Cavan fans in the terrace shouting abuse at Keating & Sean Brady when they were being taken off and also at the referee. You hear the same boys giving out about the negative soccer traits of diving etc coming in to GAA. Well this abuse is the worst thing to come across from soccer IMO. Regardless of how good/bad a player or referee is performing they're doing it for little reward and abuse is unilikely to make them want to do it any better. If a player isn't trying then maybe shout at him to run or whatever but this type of shite puts me off going near games.

More or less agree wit everything you have said Lawrence. Especially the point about Sheridan standing a foot off his man everytime. That just shows he is not a FB.
Miller was at fault for the goal, watched it again on line and he should cleaned your man out. He really does have no genuine competition at the minute.
Agree about Dunne, his lack of pace lets him down but I do think he will develop into an IC player. Still only 19 remember.
Keating was appaling and Brady, well I just dont think I have ever seen him play well in a blue jersey.

i think we should should just draw a line under yesterday and start talking about what we need for next year. No point of us keep saying how crap yesterday was. But one last time, it was crap  ;D

I was on the terrace and didn't hear abuse when they were being taken off, I heard one or two shouts during the game alright but that can be understood, fans get frustrated too and are entitled too. Once it is not personal abuse, it is just forgotten about.
I agree, but it was personal. "About time you useless b**tard" was one I remember. And I think we had more to worry about than a few poor refereeing decisions also.

Fair enough, that is a bit personal :) i wouldn't abuse like that, he trains prob three nights a week you know? That ref is some twat as well!
C4E, obviously a lack of pace is a problem, but with experience you learn how to cope with your lack of pace you know? Your sense of positioning can mean you do not get exposed.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on July 12, 2009, 07:59:26 PM
Depressing, gut wrenching and embarrassing. The story of being being a Cavan fan in these times.

Since BHM has many's a time gone to the bother of giving player ratings in the past I'll return the favour for him.

Miller - 3/10. One dimensional kick outs. Totally at fault again for the goal coming out like a big pussy when he should come out like a man and bust all out of his way. Always had this flaw and clearly is not learning or improving.
Brides - 6/10. Did OK but with weather like we got it was a day for the backs. He even kicked the ball once, unfortunately to a Wicklow player.
Shierdan - 7/10. Not a full back but does try hard and improved a lot in the 2nd half.
Hannon - 6/10. Similar to brides, minus the kicking comment.
Dunne - 5/10. Got eaten in 1st half and exposed for his lack of pace big time.
Gunner - 7.5/10. Probably our best player. Broke up a lot of attacks, gave it away a bit too but often due to having no support and nothing to aim at.
Flanagan - 6.5/10. Came into game in 2nd half and looked busy but in the end of the day didn't really have any effect on the game.
Walsh - 5/10. Competes for ball alright but his foot passing was atrocious, his hand passing not much better. I hope he isn't passing this on when he is training Cavans youth.
Cullivan - 5.5/10. Tried hard, got on the ball but kicked an awful lot of poor passes. But then again, he was up against a lad of 6'4"
Galligan - 5/10. Out of position, had no impact on game but mostly because miller never kicked the ball anywhere near him.
Sean Brady - 3/10. A joke that he stayed on as long as he did. Might as well of put a training cone on the pitch instead of him.
Keating - 3/10. Terrible. People tell me he is creative and is on the pitch to make the passes. Well his passing was deplorable, in fact i don't think he found a player on his own team. He is young but I have to wonder is old fashioned favouritism at play here that he continues to start without producing.
Pierson - 7/10. Scored a class point and was only forward who took the slippery ball in and got turned. Why he didn't make an appearance against Antrim is beyond me.
Larry - 5.5/10. Couldn't get a ball anywhere near him and on the odd occasion they did he did nothing with it. He had one great run which he was fouled for and another goal chance he missed.
Johnston - 5/10. His body language was that he didn't fancy the day, the weather, the tight marking. He trotted out for ball instead of sprint. He turned and did a few "i'm a superstar" on the spot solo's, slowing the whole attack down. If he was anyone else he'd have been taken of but sure you can't sub superstars.

Subs
Mackey 7/10. An absolute joke he didn't start. Up and down the pitch like a hare. He made mistakes but always works hard. He got dropped on one bad performance against Antrim and look at some of the others that started ahead of him.
Cahill 6.5/10. Did well, how come we don't see him until now though. Has a bit of pace that was lacking through out the team.
Givney 5/10. Caused a bit of bother at FF but never seemed to take in the ball and then he started to lose balls he should win. Confidence was finally sapped when he did a dummy solo and ended up dummying himself.

Carr - 3/10. Wrong team started. No fire in the bellies of the players. No game plan. Then he stands on the sideline for 70 minutes with his arms folded. I thought he was the man for the job but the last two games something as fundamental as fight, spirit and work rate are missing. Should we sack him? If there is a big name out there  that is mad enough to take the job then yes we should. The county needs a lift like what a Mick o Dwyer can  bring. Imagine lads, we play in Ulster and our draw this year was Home to Fermanagh, Clones (almost as good as home) against Antrim and away to Wicklow. We won't get a draw like that for another 20 years by the laws of averages. Our players are under performing to such a degree that we now wonder are they just shite. They are not that bad in my opinion.

This performance was rock bottom. There is no county in Ireland that would not fancy their chances against us. We have seen the proud Breffni Jersey dragged through the mud and it makes me sick to the pit of my stomach. The fans have lost fate, I thought me and the 4 boys with me were the only Cavan ones in the crowd as I could hear no other fans. I have travelled the country watching Cavan (I drove from the west coast of Sligo to Cavan to Wicklow to see this game) and it is the first game I ever left before the final whistle blew. I never thought I'd say this but the team played better when Keoghan was the manager - God help us. BAck in the day we were a team that would not lie down, for f**k sake if a Cavan man had of thrown a box in frustration at least that would have displayed a bit of passion. What I see in front of me is a bunch of f**king superstars that think they have achieved something by playing for Cavan, managed by a lad that seems to have no idea how to get that mentality out of their heads. I see no hope for the future for at least 5 years - thats how depressing that was.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on July 12, 2009, 08:25:12 PM
Carrs man management have to be questioned. 

Mark McKeever - Carr said in interview that Mckeever was not dropped from panel and was just taking a break.   McKeever was never seen again and as far as i know Carr never spoke about him again. 

Dermot McCabe - Conflicting stories but im sure could have been handled better.

Lorcan Mulvey - Surely could have offered something at midfield for at least 20 - 25 mins in Antrim Game.  Didnt quit panel, was pushed out by Carr and his side kicks.

I cant think of anyone else, my head tells me im missing someone obvious, im still not right from last night.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on July 12, 2009, 08:28:21 PM
I give up.I have actually gone past caring.We have really hit rock bottom.Let club championships begin.I really hope Tommy Carr and co are watching because they have a lot of replacing to do.But TBH there just aint the footballers in this county.The last 2 games have really drilled that home.
No more talk about Cavan from me.Thats it.
Just back from an 18 year olds Removal.There are more important things in life than football.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on July 12, 2009, 08:31:23 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on July 12, 2009, 07:59:26 PM
Depressing, gut wrenching and embarrassing. The story of being being a Cavan fan in these times.

Since BHM has many's a time gone to the bother of giving player ratings in the past I'll return the favour for him.

Miller - 3/10. One dimensional kick outs. Totally at fault again for the goal coming out like a big pussy when he should come out like a man and bust all out of his way. Always had this flaw and clearly is not learning or improving.
Brides - 6/10. Did OK but with weather like we got it was a day for the backs. He even kicked the ball once, unfortunately to a Wicklow player.
Shierdan - 7/10. Not a full back but does try hard and improved a lot in the 2nd half.
Hannon - 6/10. Similar to brides, minus the kicking comment.
Dunne - 5/10. Got eaten in 1st half and exposed for his lack of pace big time.
Gunner - 7.5/10. Probably our best player. Broke up a lot of attacks, gave it away a bit too but often due to having no support and nothing to aim at.
Flanagan - 6.5/10. Came into game in 2nd half and looked busy but in the end of the day didn't really have any effect on the game.
Walsh - 5/10. Competes for ball alright but his foot passing was atrocious, his hand passing not much better. I hope he isn't passing this on when he is training Cavans youth.
Cullivan - 5.5/10. Tried hard, got on the ball but kicked an awful lot of poor passes. But then again, he was up against a lad of 6'4"
Galligan - 5/10. Out of position, had no impact on game but mostly because miller never kicked the ball anywhere near him.
Sean Brady - 3/10. A joke that he stayed on as long as he did. Might as well of put a training cone on the pitch instead of him.
Keating - 3/10. Terrible. People tell me he is creative and is on the pitch to make the passes. Well his passing was deplorable, in fact i don't think he found a player on his own team. He is young but I have to wonder is old fashioned favouritism at play here that he continues to start without producing.
Pierson - 7/10. Scored a class point and was only forward who took the slippery ball in and got turned. Why he didn't make an appearance against Antrim is beyond me.
Larry - 5.5/10. Couldn't get a ball anywhere near him and on the odd occasion they did he did nothing with it. He had one great run which he was fouled for and another goal chance he missed.
Johnston - 5/10. His body language was that he didn't fancy the day, the weather, the tight marking. He trotted out for ball instead of sprint. He turned and did a few "i'm a superstar" on the spot solo's, slowing the whole attack down. If he was anyone else he'd have been taken of but sure you can't sub superstars.

Subs
Mackey 7/10. An absolute joke he didn't start. Up and down the pitch like a hare. He made mistakes but always works hard. He got dropped on one bad performance against Antrim and look at some of the others that started ahead of him.
Cahill 6.5/10. Did well, how come we don't see him until now though. Has a bit of pace that was lacking through out the team.
Givney 5/10. Caused a bit of bother at FF but never seemed to take in the ball and then he started to lose balls he should win. Confidence was finally sapped when he did a dummy solo and ended up dummying himself.

Carr - 3/10. Wrong team started. No fire in the bellies of the players. No game plan. Then he stands on the sideline for 70 minutes with his arms folded. I thought he was the man for the job but the last two games something as fundamental as fight, spirit and work rate are missing. Should we sack him? If there is a big name out there  that is mad enough to take the job then yes we should. The county needs a lift like what a Mick o Dwyer can  bring. Imagine lads, we play in Ulster and our draw this year was Home to Fermanagh, Clones (almost as good as home) against Antrim and away to Wicklow. We won't get a draw like that for another 20 years by the laws of averages. Our players are under performing to such a degree that we now wonder are they just shite. They are not that bad in my opinion.

This performance was rock bottom. There is no county in Ireland that would not fancy their chances against us. We have seen the proud Breffni Jersey dragged through the mud and it makes me sick to the pit of my stomach. The fans have lost fate, I thought me and the 4 boys with me were the only Cavan ones in the crowd as I could hear no other fans. I have travelled the country watching Cavan (I drove from the west coast of Sligo to Cavan to Wicklow to see this game) and it is the first game I ever left before the final whistle blew. I never thought I'd say this but the team played better when Keoghan was the manager - God help us. BAck in the day we were a team that would not lie down, for f**k sake if a Cavan man had of thrown a box in frustration at least that would have displayed a bit of passion. What I see in front of me is a bunch of f**king superstars that think they have achieved something by playing for Cavan, managed by a lad that seems to have no idea how to get that mentality out of their heads. I see no hope for the future for at least 5 years - thats how depressing that was.

Thanks very much Myles, some trip for you from Sligo to wicklow via Cavan,There are a few of the afore-mentioned lads that shouldnt even be in the panel next year in my opinion,Anyway we have the next 6 months to discuss who should be brought in so i wont start it now.
Depressing stuff.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on July 12, 2009, 08:36:33 PM
Quote from: cavan4ever on July 12, 2009, 08:25:12 PM
Carrs man management have to be questioned. 

Mark McKeever - Carr said in interview that Mckeever was not dropped from panel and was just taking a break.   McKeever was never seen again and as far as i know Carr never spoke about him again. 

Dermot McCabe - Conflicting stories but im sure could have been handled better.

Lorcan Mulvey - Surely could have offered something at midfield for at least 20 - 25 mins in Antrim Game.  Didnt quit panel, was pushed out by Carr and his side kicks.

I cant think of anyone else, my head tells me im missing someone obvious, im still not right from last night.

His Man Management and Selection skills are atrocious, Anyone who knows anything about club football knows that Martin Cahill and Keith Fannin are better than Brides,Dunne and co.
About 50 people and thats no exagerration have said to me how they cant believe the two players mentioned were not played before the likes of those two,Keating  when at Centre Back etc. I dont know what to make of the whole situation,it doesnt look good from Carr's point of view anyway.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on July 12, 2009, 09:13:35 PM
I am just baffled by the whole situation and don't know whether to make heads nor tail of it.

I wonder how some of the players feel?

And some have been given so many chances they really don't deserve anymore. I am not even going through them individually, we all know who they are at this stage
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on July 12, 2009, 10:06:24 PM


Michael Brides replaced by Daire McMahon(Kingscourt)
Rory Dunne by Gary Fernacombe(Drumalee)
Eugene Keating by Kevin Brady(Lavey)
Ciaran Galligan by Thomas Corr(Denn)
Sean Brady by Sean Og Gargan(Kingscourt)

Nicholas Walsh at midfield experiment has to have ended,Hes either a targetman at full forward or he shouldnt be there,
Ive seen him play his best for club and county at full forward.
Tomas Reily and Declan McKiernan were on the panel,but both should see extensive action next year, a bit of power,Speed and lots of ability tied in with typical slasher aggression(isnt that right Myles ? )  :P

Gearoid McKernan(Swad) and Jonathon Crowe of Crosserlough should be brought in as well if they are healthy.

From the Gaels.
Chesty if hes willing to come back,i know he couldnt give the commitment this year due to work.
Robert Maloney Derham, Bit of power, speed and size.
Gavin Duffy if hes around,
And my final one, and im going to take abuse for this i know!!!

Sean Reily 6'5, terribly awkward to play against,Good Fielder,Hes worth at least a try in the McKenna Cup, he wouldnt be the best player to ever play for Cavan,but hes a big man and thats what we need.

Theres a good few more players that i would like to see tried,Actually it runs into about 20!!!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on July 12, 2009, 10:19:33 PM
Quote from: RednBlack on July 12, 2009, 10:11:07 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on July 12, 2009, 10:06:24 PM


Michael Brides replaced by Daire McMahon(Kingscourt)
Rory Dunne by Gary Fernacombe(Drumalee)
Eugene Keating by Kevin Brady(Lavey)
Ciaran Galligan by Thomas Corr(Denn)
Sean Brady by Sean Og Gargan(Kingscourt)

Nicholas Walsh at midfield experiment has to have ended,Hes either a targetman at full forward or he shouldnt be there,
Ive seen him play his best for club and county at full forward.
Tomas Reily and Declan McKiernan were on the panel,but both should see extensive action next year, a bit of power,Speed and lots of ability tied in with typical slasher aggression(isnt that right Myles ? )  :P

Gearoid McKernan(Swad) and Jonathon Crowe of Crosserlough should be brought in as well if they are healthy.

From the Gaels.
Chesty if hes willing to come back,i know he couldnt give the commitment this year due to work.
Robert Maloney Derham, Bit of power, speed and size.
Gavin Duffy if hes around,
And my final one, and im going to take abuse for this i know!!!

Sean Reily 6'5, terribly awkward to play against,Good Fielder,Hes worth at least a try in the McKenna Cup, he wouldnt be the best player to ever play for Cavan,but hes a big man and thats what we need. nothing wild about that. funny he crossed my mind today.

Theres a good few more players that i would like to see tried,Actually it runs into about 20!!!
what about Murray from the Gaels. How would you rate him compared to Maloney Derham?

Niall Murray is the best pure footballer out of those great group of minors the Gaels had,But Maloney Derham has impressed me greatly whenever i have seen him,Mobile,Powerful and a good ball carrier. Niall Murray i dont think is physically ready for IC Football.
Maloney Derham ran Ballyhaise Ragged this year in the Division Two league game,Most impressive performance ive seen against us and we have came up against different countymen.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on July 12, 2009, 10:29:07 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on July 12, 2009, 10:06:24 PM


Michael Brides replaced by Daire McMahon(Kingscourt)
Rory Dunne by Gary Fernacombe(Drumalee)
Eugene Keating by Kevin Brady(Lavey)
Ciaran Galligan by Thomas Corr(Denn)
Sean Brady by Sean Og Gargan(Kingscourt)

Nicholas Walsh at midfield experiment has to have ended,Hes either a targetman at full forward or he shouldnt be there,
Ive seen him play his best for club and county at full forward.
Tomas Reily and Declan McKiernan were on the panel,but both should see extensive action next year, a bit of power,Speed and lots of ability tied in with typical slasher aggression(isnt that right Myles ? )  :P

Gearoid McKernan(Swad) and Jonathon Crowe of Crosserlough should be brought in as well if they are healthy.

From the Gaels.
Chesty if hes willing to come back,i know he couldnt give the commitment this year due to work.
Robert Maloney Derham, Bit of power, speed and size.
Gavin Duffy if hes around,
And my final one, and im going to take abuse for this i know!!!

Sean Reily 6'5, terribly awkward to play against,Good Fielder,Hes worth at least a try in the McKenna Cup, he wouldnt be the best player to ever play for Cavan,but hes a big man and thats what we need.

Theres a good few more players that i would like to see tried,Actually it runs into about 20!!!


It will be good to see how many will get a chance.  Every year a few are brought in usually treated badly and by the time the league starts its back to the usual suspects apart form maybe 1 or 2 of the previous years Minor team.  

I think all the players that you named there are well worth a shot.  A big probem within the county is the attitude of spme club players and people inside clubs who dont care about the county team.  Im sure you all know people from your clubs who have being saying for the last few weeks "the sooner they are out of it the better".  
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on July 12, 2009, 10:42:48 PM
I named your clubmate in those that would be replaced,
But i dont see why He cant be tried at full forward either,Yourself and Drung will soon correct me,But i believe hes played with Drung there when he has had injury problems and has been very effective.
A Big Athletic player who can knock the ball down to the Likes of Jelly and Pierson is worth a try in there.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on July 12, 2009, 11:10:23 PM
Quote from: RednBlack on July 12, 2009, 10:44:11 PM
its players like that i would love to see play in a regional championship.

imagine having 8 regions in Cavan and players had something real to play for. you could try units of players from certain clubs to see how they mix with other players from other teams. it would not be hard to run off and could be used during the shutdown window for county work.

region 1: Gowna Mullahoran Lacken Cornafean Arva

region 2: cavan gaels drumalee killygarry ballyhaise Ballinagh

region 3: kingscourt shercock bailieboro laragh lavey

region 4: castlerahan mountnugent crosserlough ballymachugh Denn

region 5: ramor maghera munterconnacht killinkere cuchullains

region 6: drumgoon cootehill kill drung knockbride

region 7: swanlinbar shannon gaels templeport corlough kildallon

region 8: killeshandra butlersbridge redhills belturbet drumlane

Would be interesting to hear from ye who know each region well what kind of team you would come up with from those clubs paired together like that

it would take a few posts,but il give it a go.
Group 1

1. Shane Sheridan(Lacken)
2. Dermot Sheridan(Mullahoran)
3. Ciaran Sheils(Mullahoran)
4. Dermot McGlade(Arva)
5.James Moynagh(Lacken)
6.Paul Brady(Mullahoran)
7.Mark McKeever(Gowna)
8.Dermot McCabe(Gowna)
9.Eddie Reily(Mullahoran)
10.Niall Madden(Gowna)
11.Finbar Reily(Lacken)
12.Gavin Doyle(Arva)
13.Gerard Pierson(Gowna)
14.Raymond Galligan(Lacken)
15.Mark Johnston(Cornafean)

i havent seen Arva and Cornafean this year,but from previous outings,they were the lads i believe should get at least a trial.
I think your idea isa terrific one,but probably too far sighted for this county Rednblack.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on July 12, 2009, 11:19:39 PM
I know from my own club, Declan Reilly is as good as a corner back there is, though we have had to play him out of position this year. He is quick, fit and nippy.
Paddy Bird has single handedly destroyed teams this year. He ran Drung ragged and would love to see him given a shot. But I understand my lot is Div 3 at the minute.
Unfortunately Daire McMahon done his cruciate last week so a believe.

Instead of us all writing down random players, shall I make up a wish list and you can offer suggestions?

1. A man-marking corner back
2. A player who's natural position is FB and plays there with his club
3. A midfielder who can actually field
4. Another midfielder, who is strong and athletic and above six foot.
5. A creative influence on the 40?
6. A full forward to man the squre and slap down to Jelly and Pierson - personally id go with Walsh or Givney
7. Some genuine back-up to James, looked sluggish this year


Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on July 12, 2009, 11:23:42 PM
Quote from: put-it-up on July 12, 2009, 11:19:39 PM
I know from my own club, Declan Reilly is as good as a corner back there is, though we have had to play him out of position this year. He is quick, fit and nippy.
Paddy Bird has single handedly destroyed teams this year. He ran Drung ragged and would love to see him given a shot. But I understand my lot is Div 3 at the minute.
Unfortunately Daire McMahon done his cruciate last week so a believe.

Instead of us all writing down random players, shall I make up a wish list and you can offer suggestions?

1. A man-marking corner back
2. A player who's natural position is FB and plays there with his club
3. A midfielder who can actually field
4. Another midfielder, who is strong and athletic and above six foot.
5. A creative influence on the 40?
6. A full forward to man the squre and slap down to Jelly and Pierson - personally id go with Walsh or Givney
7. Some genuine back-up to James, looked sluggish this year




Neil Donnelan was very good at full back for you lads aswell a year or two ago.
Shame to hear about McMahon, the way he was playing he was a definite for the county,Hope he comes back stronger,Cavan need big lads who can run(Tackle!!!) and are good on the ball like him.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on July 12, 2009, 11:25:39 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on July 12, 2009, 11:10:23 PM
Quote from: RednBlack on July 12, 2009, 10:44:11 PM
its players like that i would love to see play in a regional championship.

imagine having 8 regions in Cavan and players had something real to play for. you could try units of players from certain clubs to see how they mix with other players from other teams. it would not be hard to run off and could be used during the shutdown window for county work.

region 1: Gowna Mullahoran Lacken Cornafean Arva

region 2: cavan gaels drumalee killygarry ballyhaise Ballinagh

region 3: kingscourt shercock bailieboro laragh lavey

region 4: castlerahan mountnugent crosserlough ballymachugh Denn

region 5: ramor maghera munterconnacht killinkere cuchullains

region 6: drumgoon cootehill kill drung knockbride

region 7: swanlinbar shannon gaels templeport corlough kildallon

region 8: killeshandra butlersbridge redhills belturbet drumlane

Would be interesting to hear from ye who know each region well what kind of team you would come up with from those clubs paired together like that

it would take a few posts,but il give it a go.
Group 1

1. Shane Sheridan(Lacken)
2. Dermot Sheridan(Mullahoran)
3. Ciaran Sheils(Mullahoran)
4. Dermot McGlade(Arva)
5.James Moynagh(Lacken)
6.Paul Brady(Mullahoran)
7.Mark McKeever(Gowna)
8.Dermot McCabe(Gowna)
9.Eddie Reily(Mullahoran)
10.Niall Madden(Gowna)
11.Finbar Reily(Lacken)
12.Gavin Doyle(Arva)
13.Gerard Pierson(Gowna)
14.Raymond Galligan(Lacken)
15.Mark Johnston(Cornafean)

i havent seen Arva and Cornafean this year,but from previous outings,they were the lads i believe should get at least a trial.
I think your idea isa terrific one,but probably too far sighted for this county Rednblack.

The idea does make sense but as Iv said before its tough to find a time for it, when they cant even organise club fixtures properly. This idea would be run off in Novemebr or something and it is very hard to judge lads then.

My problem with your team there BHM is that it is by and large just the same faces again. McCabe, Finbar, Eddie are all past the peak so what is the point of them playing in this. We want to find lads that have never played minor or u21 with the county but are talented and biting at the bit to get into a county squad.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on July 12, 2009, 11:44:45 PM
Quote from: RednBlack on July 12, 2009, 11:40:38 PM
the new 3G pitch will be ready behind Breffni from Sept/Oct. No reason why these games cant be played on that pitch in Nov/Dec. Top class good dry surface, central location in the county. Would provide senior management with better data closer to the start of the McKenna Cup and League.

RnB, you seem highly intelligent, would you like to take up a role on the CB and give them a kick up the backside from all us posters ;D Maybe even you could be an honorary advisor?

On the senior management, I think TC's could rejig or extend his backroom team. Would like to see someone older from Cavan, that none of the players would be overly friendly with, involved behind the scenes.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on July 13, 2009, 08:42:07 AM
Which jobs on the County board are full-time (paid) jobs?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on July 13, 2009, 09:24:37 AM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on July 12, 2009, 10:42:48 PM
I named your clubmate in those that would be replaced,
But i dont see why He cant be tried at full forward either,Yourself and Drung will soon correct me,But i believe hes played with Drung there when he has had injury problems and has been very effective.
A Big Athletic player who can knock the ball down to the Likes of Jelly and Pierson is worth a try in there.

He isnt County standard, for all the effort he puts in that isnt going to change.  You will see close hand next Saturday evening and if he plays the way he has being playing lately i will be interested in your views.

Quote from: RednBlack on July 13, 2009, 09:08:20 AM
Quote from: cavan4ever on July 13, 2009, 08:42:07 AM
Which jobs on the County board are full-time (paid) jobs?
Secretary, coaching and Breffni Park caretakers

Are many of your clubs having problems with the secetary?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Hollow Man on July 13, 2009, 10:03:30 AM
The drive from Arklow into Aughrim was lovely, forest on both sides and a river on the left. Parked about ten minutes away from the pitch in a housing estate full of caravans, surprisingly the car was still there when I came back.
Interesting to see the Wicklow Supporter's Club selling jerseys and other merchandise at the ground, shows that there must be a good buzz down there at the minute.
Also, had a nice lasagne and chips in the Woodenbridge Hotel on the way home, bit pricey but tasty enough.
Savage surface on the pitch given the conditions. Wicklow are in reality quite poor, better than Cavan but not great (same as Antrim).
And that's all I want to say about last Saturday.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on July 13, 2009, 12:12:40 PM
The drive from Cavan to the Lavey Inn was lovely.Trees on the left and Lavey lake on the right.Watched Derry Monaghan game on tele.Great game of football,with the goals being crucial for Derry.Had a fine Caesar salad for starters and lovely Roast Beef for Mains.The Best mans speech was hilarious. I was in bad humour when I heard the Cavan result but a few pints made me forget about that. I jived away on the dance floor for hours and was home by 4 o clock Sunday morning. Thats all I want to say about Saturday.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Hollow Man on July 13, 2009, 01:18:06 PM
Boojangles, Boojangles, Boojangles... When will you ever learn?
Please don't try to be funny and/or smart anymore - it DOESN'T suit you.
Next question - should Carr go? If your answer is YES, please state the name of the candidate you'd like to see take the job.
I'll start it off - NO, only because there is nobody better to take it on.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on July 13, 2009, 02:02:43 PM
Hopefully we'll see TC at some of the Championship games over the summer. Has he been at league games? 

The intensity of the Championship games will hopefully give an indication of how players will react at IC level.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on July 13, 2009, 03:10:25 PM
Quote from: Hollow Man on July 13, 2009, 01:18:06 PM
Boojangles, Boojangles, Boojangles... When will you ever learn?
Please don't try to be funny and/or smart anymore - it DOESN'T suit you.
Next question - should Carr go? If your answer is YES, please state the name of the candidate you'd like to see take the job.
I'll start it off - NO, only because there is nobody better to take it on.

Ha Ha Hollow-SmartAss Number 1 telling me not to be smart-Bit rich no.As for the funny bit-I beg to differ.Mayb you didnt find it funny.I just couldnt resist-Hollow Man talking about lovely views etc. Come on now.

As for your question I agree with ya-I wouldnt get rid of TC.Only for the reason that we probably wouldnt get anyone better to take on the job.Chopping and changing a manager every year or 2 has to stop.  Tactically he is not good and his selectors don't seem to be any better.Niall Lynch is obviously letting local pride cloud his judgement.He also must have a wee soft spot for one Castlerahan man.
I would keep Tommy Carr but look at a new back room team.But we all know that aint gonna happen.

Anybody hear of Trevor Crowe dishing out a bit of rough justice at a Lacken game recently?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Hollow Man on July 13, 2009, 03:20:22 PM
QuoteHa Ha Hollow-SmartAss Number 1 telling me not to be smart-Bit rich no.As for the funny bit-I beg to differ.Mayb you didnt find it funny.I just couldnt resist-Hollow Man talking about lovely views etc. Come on now.

Lord above, it's official - sarcasm is totally lost on you Boojangles. Read over my post again, if you don't detect a hint of sarcasm, retire from the board and stop embarrassing yourself.

:-*

PS Please take the bait.

PSS  :-*
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on July 13, 2009, 03:32:13 PM
Quote from: Hollow Man on July 13, 2009, 03:20:22 PM
QuoteHa Ha Hollow-SmartAss Number 1 telling me not to be smart-Bit rich no.As for the funny bit-I beg to differ.Mayb you didnt find it funny.I just couldnt resist-Hollow Man talking about lovely views etc. Come on now.

Lord above, it's official - sarcasm is totally lost on you Boojangles. Read over my post again, if you don't detect a hint of sarcasm, retire from the board and stop embarrassing yourself.

:-*

PS Please take the bait.

PSS  :-*

The only thing thats embarrassing is that post you wrote.Lovely drive from Arklow to Aughrim,trees on left bla bla bla-Get a grip of yourself man.Cavan lost-No need for you to start imitating William Wordsworth.
As for sarcasm-I take that as a given with every post you write.I doubt Im the only one either.

PS  :-*
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Hollow Man on July 13, 2009, 04:56:13 PM
I give up!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on July 13, 2009, 05:12:50 PM
Quote from: Hollow Man on July 13, 2009, 04:56:13 PM
I give up!
Well that's a relief. Or am I being sarcastic? Mmm, I'm so clever I've confused everybody even myself. Maybe I should go to a board where my higher levels of wit will be appreciated.
GAA please. ;D >:( :P :'(
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on July 13, 2009, 05:21:20 PM
Region 2 team for Rednblack

1.Patrick Galligan Killygarry/Eoin Elliot(Cavan Gaels)
2.Kevin Donohoe(Drumalee)
3.Eoin Smith(Killygarry)
4.Niall Reily(Ballinagh)
5.Barry Kelly(Ballyhaise)
6.Eamon Reily(Cavan Gaels)
7.Gary Fernacombe(Drumalee)
8.Sean Reily(Cavan Gaels)
9.Gavin Duffy(Cavan Gaels)
10.Thomas Leonard(Killygarry)
11.Martin Reily(Killygarry)
12.Robert Maloney Derham(Cavan Gaels)
13.Eamon Costello(Ballyhaise)
14.Darragh Gaffney(Drumalee)
15.Niall McDermott(Ballinagh)

left out Podge/Cullivan etc who have been around the county scene for years,
Plenty of backs to select, had to leave out lads like Enda McCormack of Drumalee who has county potential,but not as many top class forwards.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on July 13, 2009, 05:28:06 PM
Seems to be trends emerging from the last few posts/pages, wouldn't necessarily agree with a lot of it but then again, who among us are feeling terribly rational after the events of the last month?

1. Cavan don't have the players
Certainly not in terms of winning anything we don't but I remain convinced by events in our own county in 1997 and other counties such as Galway 96-98, Kildare of the same era, Mayo circa 1996, Fermanagh at various stages in the last decade, Sligo too, Limerick currently and under Liam Kearns, and Micko with Laois and Wicklow, and Baker with Antrim, that, what looks at any given time like a county "without the players" can at least be marshalled and organised by the right man, and quicker than you'd think, in such a way as to make them competitive to a certain level. Some but not all of those counties had underage success yes I know, but it's not a prerequisite all the time and besides, trophies aren't the only arbiter of the quality of your underage teams either.
We should be doing much, much better than we are with the resources available to us, by which I mean respectability and not being the new joke team of the country.

2. Tommy Carr should stay/go
The fact that we were better under someone as lacking as Keogan is a very damning indictment of Carr and his abilities. I'm at a loss as to how someone with a big gig under his belt like Dublin and who played at the very highest level, could come to our county and actually take us further backwards when we thought there was no further room to go any further backwards. This year has almost certainly tainted his rebuilding programme and given the abilities or lack of shown thus far, it's hard to see whether he is up to the task now of turning it around. Nobody could have envisaged that we'd actually get worse under a new manager.
However, if only because change wouldn't really serve any purpose at this juncture, I'd give him one more year to show some signs of progress and hope to Jesus something basic can be put in place.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on July 13, 2009, 05:29:25 PM
 Region 3 :kingscourt shercock bailieboro laragh lavey

1.James Carolan(Lavey)
2.Daire McMahon(Kingscourt)providing he comes back from injury the same player.
3.Darren Smith(Lavey)
4.Declan Reily(Baileborough)
5.Alan Clarke(Kingscourt)
6.Keith McCabe(Kingscourt)
7.Enda Clarke(Laragh)
8.Michael O Reily(Shercock)
9.Ollie Kelleher(Baileborough)
10.Sean Og Gargan(Kingscourt)
11.Kevin Brady(Lavey)
12.Joe McMahon(Kingscourt)
13.Darragh Gunn(Kingscourt)
14.Sean Maguire(Lavey)
15.Paul Cooney Jnr(Baileborough)

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on July 13, 2009, 05:33:11 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on July 13, 2009, 05:21:20 PM
Region 2 team for Rednblack

1.Patrick Galligan Killygarry/Eoin Elliot(Cavan Gaels)
2.Kevin Donohoe(Drumalee)
3.Eoin Smith(Killygarry)
4.Niall Reily(Ballinagh)
5.Barry Kelly(Ballyhaise)
6.Eamon Reily(Cavan Gaels)
7.Gary Fernacombe(Drumalee)
8.Sean Reily(Cavan Gaels)
9.Gavin Duffy(Cavan Gaels)
10.Thomas Leonard(Killygarry)
11.Martin Reily(Killygarry)
12.Robert Maloney Derham(Cavan Gaels)
13.Eamon Costello(Ballyhaise)
14.Darragh Gaffney(Drumalee)
15.Niall McDermott(Ballinagh)

left out Podge/Cullivan etc who have been around the county scene for years,
Plenty of backs to select, had to leave out lads like Enda McCormack of Drumalee who has county potential,but not as many top class forwards.

would donal Thomas not make MF on that team BHM?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Hollow Man on July 13, 2009, 05:34:18 PM
QuoteWell that's a relief. Or am I being sarcastic? Mmm, I'm so clever I've confused everybody even myself. Maybe I should go to a board where my higher levels of wit will be appreciated.
GAA please.    

Back off Lawrence. I wasn't sure about you - seems my suspicions were correct. You're not big and you're not clever, now grow up and stop trying to wind people up on here.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on July 13, 2009, 05:42:34 PM
Region 4: castlerahan mountnugent crosserlough ballymachugh Denn

1.Charlie Clerkin(Castlerahan)
2.Peter Cullen(Munnterconnacht)
3.Barry Cusack(Castlerahan)
4.Colin Lynch(Crosserlough)
5.Dane Smith(Castlerahan)
6.David Kiernan(Denn)
7.Jonathon Crowe(Crosserlough)
8.Thomas Corr(Denn)
9.Thomas Brady/Ronan Caffrey(Mountnugent,both good players,Our Mountnugent posters will tell us who is better and worth a place on this team)
10.James Kiernan(Ballymachugh)
11.Pauric Smith(Castlerahan)
12.Darren Costello(Denn)
13.Darragh Carroll(Munnterconnacht)
14.David Givney(Mountnugent)
15.Enda Gaffney(Crosserlough)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on July 13, 2009, 05:44:26 PM
Quote from: put-it-up on July 13, 2009, 05:33:11 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on July 13, 2009, 05:21:20 PM
Region 2 team for Rednblack

1.Patrick Galligan Killygarry/Eoin Elliot(Cavan Gaels)
2.Kevin Donohoe(Drumalee)
3.Eoin Smith(Killygarry)
4.Niall Reily(Ballinagh)
5.Barry Kelly(Ballyhaise)
6.Eamon Reily(Cavan Gaels)
7.Gary Fernacombe(Drumalee)
8.Sean Reily(Cavan Gaels)
9.Gavin Duffy(Cavan Gaels)
10.Thomas Leonard(Killygarry)
11.Martin Reily(Killygarry)
12.Robert Maloney Derham(Cavan Gaels)
13.Eamon Costello(Ballyhaise)
14.Darragh Gaffney(Drumalee)
15.Niall McDermott(Ballinagh)

left out Podge/Cullivan etc who have been around the county scene for years,
Plenty of backs to select, had to leave out lads like Enda McCormack of Drumalee who has county potential,but not as many top class forwards.

would donal Thomas not make MF on that team BHM?

Possibly Put it up, Id like to see Sean Reily tried out though,and Gavin Duffy is a terrific footballer,Thomas would definetly be in with a shout for a place on that team.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: the salmon of knowledge on July 13, 2009, 05:57:26 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on July 13, 2009, 05:42:34 PM
Region 4: castlerahan mountnugent crosserlough ballymachugh Denn

1.Charlie Clerkin(Castlerahan)
2.Peter Cullen(Munnterconnacht)
3.Barry Cusack(Castlerahan)
4.Colin Lynch(Crosserlough)
5.Dane Smith(Castlerahan)
6.David Kiernan(Denn)
7.Jonathon Crowe(Crosserlough)
8.Thomas Corr(Denn)
9.Thomas Brady/Ronan Caffrey(Mountnugent,both good players,Our Mountnugent posters will tell us who is better and worth a place on this team)10.James Kiernan(Ballymachugh)
11.Pauric Smith(Castlerahan)
12.Darren Costello(Denn)
13.Darragh Carroll(Munnterconnacht)
14.David Givney(Mountnugent)
15.Enda Gaffney(Crosserlough)



neither, tom brady at WB maybe, ronan will be lucky if he ever plays football again, the chap has seen every specialist in the country about his ankles at this stage and noone can fix them for him, mountnugent played xlough 2s sunday morning and drew with them, ronan came on for mccabe in midfield in the second half, kicked the ball once and had to come off in pain, pity for the lad...
by the way givney scored 4 goals in the game...


Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: the salmon of knowledge on July 13, 2009, 05:59:42 PM
martin cahill at no7 and johnny crowe in MF and the rest is spot on BHM
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on July 13, 2009, 06:02:44 PM
Thanks Salmon,Pity to hear about your clubmate, i seen him play at minor and for M'Nugent seniors and thought he was a good player.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on July 13, 2009, 06:05:33 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on July 13, 2009, 05:29:25 PM
Region 3 :kingscourt shercock bailieboro laragh lavey

1.James Carolan(Lavey)
2.Daire McMahon(Kingscourt)providing he comes back from injury the same player.
3.Darren Smith(Lavey)
4.Declan Reily(Baileborough)
5.Alan Clarke(Kingscourt)
6.Keith McCabe(Kingscourt)
7.Enda Clarke(Laragh)
8.Michael O Reily(Shercock)
9.Ollie Kelleher(Baileborough)
10.Sean Og Gargan(Kingscourt)
11.Kevin Brady(Lavey)
12.Joe McMahon(Kingscourt)
13.Darragh Gunn(Kingscourt)
14.Sean Maguire(Lavey)
15.Paul Cooney Jnr(Baileborough)



Its only when you see teams made like that you realise, there are plenty of lads that deserve a chance to shine at that level but they don't because they never made it at minor.

With regards to that team Paul Cooney is noweher near that standard. Paddy Bird would in my opinion roast most backs in this county. Clarke from Laragh would be lost at any level above club as well. Like the look of that team though! David Rooney would be in with a big shout too
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on July 13, 2009, 06:13:44 PM
Quote from: put-it-up on July 13, 2009, 06:05:33 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on July 13, 2009, 05:29:25 PM
Region 3 :kingscourt shercock bailieboro laragh lavey

1.James Carolan(Lavey)
2.Daire McMahon(Kingscourt)providing he comes back from injury the same player.
3.Darren Smith(Lavey)
4.Declan Reily(Baileborough)
5.Alan Clarke(Kingscourt)
6.Keith McCabe(Kingscourt)
7.Enda Clarke(Laragh)
8.Michael O Reily(Shercock)
9.Ollie Kelleher(Baileborough)
10.Sean Og Gargan(Kingscourt)
11.Kevin Brady(Lavey)
12.Joe McMahon(Kingscourt)
13.Darragh Gunn(Kingscourt)
14.Sean Maguire(Lavey)
15.Paul Cooney Jnr(Baileborough)



Its only when you see teams made like that you realise, there are plenty of lads that deserve a chance to shine at that level but they don't because they never made it at minor.

With regards to that team Paul Cooney is noweher near that standard. Paddy Bird would in my opinion roast most backs in this county. Clarke from Laragh would be lost at any level above club as well. Like the look of that team though! David Rooney would be in with a big shout too
Is Bird still as proficcient with 45's as he was a few years ago,his display of kicking off the ground in a championship against Ballinagh was one of the best ive seen at club level,Hes also a good player from open play.
David Rooney was another player screwed in the Keoghan era,He got something like 30 minutes during the McKenna Cup and was then discarded.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on July 13, 2009, 06:28:18 PM
Quote from: Hollow Man on July 13, 2009, 05:34:18 PM
QuoteWell that's a relief. Or am I being sarcastic? Mmm, I'm so clever I've confused everybody even myself. Maybe I should go to a board where my higher levels of wit will be appreciated.
GAA please.    

Back off Lawrence. I wasn't sure about you - seems my suspicions were correct. You're not big  :'( and you're not clever :'( :'(, now grow up and stop trying to wind people up on here. :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(
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Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on July 13, 2009, 06:46:58 PM
region 5: ramor maghera munterconnacht killinkere cuchullains
i fucked up number 3 including Munnterconnacht there.
so il only include the other 4 clubs for region 5.

1.Colm Anderson(Cuchullains)
2.Raymond Farrelly(Ramor)
3.Barry Smith(Cuchullains)
4.Damien Barkey(Ramor)
5.Paddy Smith(Killinkere)
6.Gavin Daly(Cuchullains)
7.Donncha Dunne(Cuchullains)
8.Shane Cole(Ramor)
9.Anton Reily(Ramor)
10.Jack Brady(Ramor)
11.Peter Monaghan(Ramor Utd)
12.Eugene Keating(Cuchullains)
13.Shane Smith(Cuchullains)
14.Paddy McNamee(Ramor)
15.Adrian Cole(Ramor Utd)


Hollow Man a couple of questions for you, ive not seen Maghera play in years,do they have any players that are county material?
Also how bad did Peter Monaghan injure his knee against our Reserve team last Wednesday night? It was bad from what some of our players told me.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on July 13, 2009, 06:48:22 PM
Quote from: put-it-up on July 13, 2009, 06:37:14 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on July 13, 2009, 06:13:44 PM
Quote from: put-it-up on July 13, 2009, 06:05:33 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on July 13, 2009, 05:29:25 PM
Region 3 :kingscourt shercock bailieboro laragh lavey

1.James Carolan(Lavey)
2.Daire McMahon(Kingscourt)providing he comes back from injury the same player.
3.Darren Smith(Lavey)
4.Declan Reily(Baileborough)
5.Alan Clarke(Kingscourt)
6.Keith McCabe(Kingscourt)
7.Enda Clarke(Laragh)
8.Michael O Reily(Shercock)
9.Ollie Kelleher(Baileborough)
10.Sean Og Gargan(Kingscourt)
11.Kevin Brady(Lavey)
12.Joe McMahon(Kingscourt)
13.Darragh Gunn(Kingscourt)
14.Sean Maguire(Lavey)
15.Paul Cooney Jnr(Baileborough)



Its only when you see teams made like that you realise, there are plenty of lads that deserve a chance to shine at that level but they don't because they never made it at minor.

With regards to that team Paul Cooney is noweher near that standard. Paddy Bird would in my opinion roast most backs in this county. Clarke from Laragh would be lost at any level above club as well. Like the look of that team though! David Rooney would be in with a big shout too
Is Bird still as proficcient with 45's as he was a few years ago,his display of kicking off the ground in a championship against Ballinagh was one of the best ive seen at club level,Hes also a good player from open play.
David Rooney was another player screwed in the Keoghan era,He got something like 30 minutes during the McKenna Cup and was then discarded.

Bird is playing the best football he ever has and if David Givney is good enough to be on the panel then so is Bird IMO. He would defo be the top scorer in Div 3 this year. He made the u21 panel last year but because he never featured when he was minor and didn't have the reputation of Conor Smith he never got a look in.

Keoghan screwed over Rooney alright and gave him a harsh deal, playing him corner back for like a half a game. If that was David's best position I am sure he would player there for the Shamrocks. I mean he would be the third choice corner back from just our club.

Funny story I heard actually. Apparently, when DK was letting him go after training for a month and getting half a game or something, he was told "The Door will always be opened David". Apparently Rooney's answer was, "The door will be bolted shut on my side Donal" ;D

Brilliant!

;D  ;D  ;D  ;D
Rooney played Connacht championship for New York didnt he?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on July 13, 2009, 06:50:42 PM
I'm not too sure. He is a brave footballer that would put his head where most wouldn't put his boot. Div Three football is right up his alley :L
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on July 13, 2009, 06:53:47 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on July 13, 2009, 06:46:58 PM
region 5: ramor maghera munterconnacht killinkere cuchullains
i fucked up number 3 including Munnterconnacht there.
so il only include the other 4 clubs for region 5.

1.Colm Anderson(Cuchullains)
2.Raymond Farrelly(Ramor)
3.Barry Smith(Cuchullains)
4.Damien Barkey(Ramor)
5.Paddy Smith(Killinkere)
6.Gavin Daly(Cuchullains)
7.Donncha Dunne(Cuchullains)
8.Shane Cole(Ramor)
9.Anton Reily(Ramor)
10.Jack Brady(Ramor)
11.Peter Monaghan(Ramor Utd)
12.Eugene Keating(Cuchullains)
13.Shane Smith(Cuchullains)
14.Paddy McNamee(Ramor)
15.Adrian Cole(Ramor Utd)


Hollow Man a couple of questions for you, ive not seen Maghera play in years,do they have any players that are county material?
Also how bad did Peter Monaghan injure his knee against our Reserve team last Wednesday night? It was bad from what some of our players told me.

Been brutally honest, there are not too many I fancy from this region. However I cant wait for Barkey to develop into a top class Corner-back. If we could fast-forward his life 3 years, that would be one problem solved from my list a page or too back! Also like the look of Ado Cole. Hope they keep improving
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on July 13, 2009, 07:00:59 PM
Quote from: put-it-up on July 13, 2009, 06:53:47 PM
Been brutally honest, there are not too many I fancy from this region. However I cant wait for Barkey to develop into a top class Corner-back. If we could fast-forward his life 3 years, that would be one problem solved from my list a page or too back! Also like the look of Ado Cole. Hope they keep improving

Id have big hopes for him looks the part, and as for rooney he got more than 30 minutes from what i remember.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on July 13, 2009, 07:35:19 PM
Quote from: RednBlack on July 13, 2009, 07:13:56 PM
This is great stuff lads. Exactly what I wanted to stimulate. Time now to wake up the County Board  ;D

As an extra, if teams like this were set up to play on somewhere like the new 3G would ye go in to watch these games. Thats if they were properly marketed and advertised, and were taken very seriously by not only the county board but by players and management.

Of course we would, sure aren't we the clowns that drove to Aughrim  ;D

Getting the right men in charge of teams would be diificult too. Would like to see it happen because that regional thing that was run last year was an absolute farce
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on July 13, 2009, 08:35:06 PM
Good to see some of you lads in the know lift the gloom a bit by naming lists of lads worth a go at county. I've been living out of the county for a good few years now and am pretty much out of touch with the club scene. One thing that stood out against Wicklow and Antrim is the lack of pace and power in the team. Are any of the lads named above big, fast and powerful cos I reckon we need about 5 like that.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on July 13, 2009, 09:39:20 PM
If Carr was to go what about Paul Caffrey and maybe Bernard Morris to take over? Would they be mad enough to take it over?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on July 13, 2009, 11:17:58 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on July 13, 2009, 09:39:20 PM
If Carr was to go what about Paul Caffrey and maybe Bernard Morris to take over? Would they be mad enough to take it over?

I know Bernard Morris is still learning but from what I came across him playing against teams he was over,he was naive along the line.I remember being shocked at some of the moves he made and didnt make when we played Ballinagh in the Intermediate final a few years back.I know he went on the next year and won Ulster so he has improved but I just would have my doubts about his suitabillity. I played under his fellow club man Ciaran Brady for a bit and IMO I feel he mite have more to offer.
Pillar Caffrey wont come near Cavan anyway.
I think talk of management is pointless really because unless TC walks the County Board wont sack him.Unless something like the farce that happened when Val Andrews left happens again.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on July 13, 2009, 11:52:55 PM
Quote from: put-it-up on July 13, 2009, 11:38:50 PM
Quote from: boojangles on July 13, 2009, 11:17:58 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on July 13, 2009, 09:39:20 PM
If Carr was to go what about Paul Caffrey and maybe Bernard Morris to take over? Would they be mad enough to take it over?

I know Bernard Morris is still learning but from what I came across him playing against teams he was over,he was naive along the line.I remember being shocked at some of the moves he made and didnt make when we played Ballinagh in the Intermediate final a few years back.I know he went on the next year and won Ulster so he has improved but I just would have my doubts about his suitabillity. I played under his fellow club man Ciaran Brady for a bit and IMO I feel he mite have more to offer.
Pillar Caffrey wont come near Cavan anyway.
I think talk of management is pointless really because unless TC walks the County Board wont sack him.Unless something like the farce that happened when Val Andrews left happens again.

More importantly I overheard a conversation in Cavan this evening while I was waiting for my grub. I hope it was just gossip but I heard the terms 'vote of no confidence' 'County Board' and 'Tommy Carr'in and around the same few sentences. Didn't recognise the man and I hope he is a nobody and just talking shite with his friend. 

Too many people who drive the major decisions in the county board wouldn't know a football if it hit them in the face anyway.

I wouldnt put anything past some of the dimwits in this county.There is still alot of the older generation in Cavan who havent moved with the times and still feel we should be competing for Ulster every year.Cant see the Big picture. Like when you think about what happened to Andrews in 2001-We run Tyrone to 3 points in an Ulster final that we really should have won. Yet some delegate (from out Homers neck of the woods-correct me if Im wrong) calls for a vote of No Confidence in Val Andrews.Tyrone were AI Champs within 2 years,while Cavan got beat out of Casement Park by Antrim. Only in Cavan. >:( >:( >:(
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on July 14, 2009, 12:32:11 AM
I dont necessarily agree with Tommy Carr getting the boot or a vote of no confidence,Hes hasnt impressed this year,but he should probably be given more time to put things right.
i would however fully support the no confidence motion for this county board,
Any County Board which has to outsource its search for a senior county manager to a private company doesnt deserve its position.
Not to mention the farce of the last few years when they elected to take the cheap way out and select Keoghan instead of Damien Cassidy.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: shotstopper1 on July 14, 2009, 12:48:16 AM
Did Andrews not walk out himself because although he got the majority support he wanted 100% support? There was talk at the time that what he really wanted was Dublin job but that just didn't happen.The biggest balls up the county board made was when Eamon Coleman (R.I.P.) took ill that they didn't give Cassidy the reigns.McIlkennon was no manager,he should have being left as trainer. The county board just seem to walk from one mess into another like the Liam Austin episode,it was a disgrace the way he was treated.
Not sure what sort of contract TC may be on, it could well be that he has a three year contract and if it were to be terminated he'd be due compensation,so therefore the only way he would be got rid of is if he walked out,which is unlikely to happen.
In all fairness he can't be solely to blame for our recent performances.The main thing that seems to be missing from the Cavan panel is the pride and the passion when they pull on the blue jersey,it just doesn't seem to be there for whatever reason.It's one thing losing but to go down lamely without putting up a fight is something else.These lads have trained all year for this and made a lot of sacrifices,but there's something missing,there doesn't seem to be any leaders within the squad,we don't seem to have any strong characters, that when things are going wrong they can drag the team back up by the scruff of the neck.Like the fullback who comes bursting outta defence or the midfielder who will soar highest and take the ball outta the clouds or the full forward who will take the responsiblity to kick a few inspirational scores,thats what we need inspirational players who can lift a team and supporters when things are going bad.
Also the attitude and commitment of some players is way off,there were three players a couple of years ago who were lambasted in the county and the media for heading to the States to make a few pound , I  just wonder will the lads who travelled from Punchestown to Aughrim to play get the same treatment, somehow I doubt it.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: the salmon of knowledge on July 14, 2009, 12:55:55 AM
Quote from: hardstation on July 14, 2009, 12:48:42 AM
You simply can't give Tommy Carr the boot. That would be ridiculous. You have to give him time to build a team. For fecks sake if you replace the manager every year you play crap, how are you supposed to learn?

correct 100%

no championship games this weekend in junior anyhow
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on July 14, 2009, 01:23:30 AM
Quote from: the salmon of knowledge on July 14, 2009, 12:55:55 AM
Quote from: hardstation on July 14, 2009, 12:48:42 AM
You simply can't give Tommy Carr the boot. That would be ridiculous. You have to give him time to build a team. For fecks sake if you replace the manager every year you play crap, how are you supposed to learn?

correct 100%

no championship games this weekend in junior anyhow

Championship is on on Thur/Friday/Sat/Sunday week i believe.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on July 14, 2009, 08:03:40 AM
Quote from: shotstopper1 on July 14, 2009, 12:48:16 AM
Also the attitude and commitment of some players is way off,there were three players a couple of years ago who were lambasted in the county and the media for heading to the States to make a few pound , I  just wonder will the lads who travelled from Punchestown to Aughrim to play get the same treatment, somehow I doubt it.

Are you serious ?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on July 14, 2009, 08:56:08 AM
Quote from: hardstation on July 14, 2009, 12:48:42 AM
You simply can't give Tommy Carr the boot. That would be ridiculous. You have to give him time to build a team. For fecks sake if you replace the manager every year you play crap, how are you supposed to learn?

You have to remember Hardstation, we are Cavan ::)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on July 14, 2009, 10:03:22 AM
Quote from: cavan4ever on July 14, 2009, 08:03:40 AM
Quote from: shotstopper1 on July 14, 2009, 12:48:16 AM
Also the attitude and commitment of some players is way off,there were three players a couple of years ago who were lambasted in the county and the media for heading to the States to make a few pound , I  just wonder will the lads who travelled from Punchestown to Aughrim to play get the same treatment, somehow I doubt it.

Are you serious ?

Please tell me no players travelled from Punchestown? There is no way that can be true.

Anybody see the post today~?

Jayo is not a happy camper!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on July 14, 2009, 10:22:12 AM
Quote from: RednBlack on July 14, 2009, 10:17:25 AM
whats wrong with him?

He was told to warm up that he was going on, asked how long was left and was told 7 minutes.   He then asked the linesman and he told him there was 1 minute left so when Carr called him to go on he told him to f**k off.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on July 14, 2009, 10:28:34 AM
Quote from: cavan4ever on July 14, 2009, 10:22:12 AM
Quote from: RednBlack on July 14, 2009, 10:17:25 AM
whats wrong with him?

He was told to warm up that he was going on, asked how long was left and was told 7 minutes.   He then asked the linesman and he told him there was 1 minute left so when Carr called him to go on he told him to f**k off.

Never heard that C4E? Is that defo true?If so, I presume thats the end of his IC career
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on July 14, 2009, 10:49:36 AM
certainly not the bit about telling Carr to f**k off!

I only read it in the shop, just says he doesnt think Carr will be here next year and not much has changed in the last year.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on July 14, 2009, 11:06:13 AM
Quote from: put-it-up on July 14, 2009, 10:28:34 AM
Quote from: cavan4ever on July 14, 2009, 10:22:12 AM
Quote from: RednBlack on July 14, 2009, 10:17:25 AM
whats wrong with him?

He was told to warm up that he was going on, asked how long was left and was told 7 minutes.   He then asked the linesman and he told him there was 1 minute left so when Carr called him to go on he told him to f**k off.

Never heard that C4E? Is that defo true?If so, I presume thats the end of his IC career

One of the players told me.

Quote from: put-it-up on July 14, 2009, 10:49:36 AM
certainly not the bit about telling Carr to f**k off!

I only read it in the shop, just says he doesnt think Carr will be here next year and not much has changed in the last year.

You give Cavan people a good name  :D :D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on July 14, 2009, 12:14:06 PM
Quote from: cavan4ever on July 14, 2009, 11:06:13 AM
Quote from: put-it-up on July 14, 2009, 10:28:34 AM
Quote from: cavan4ever on July 14, 2009, 10:22:12 AM
Quote from: RednBlack on July 14, 2009, 10:17:25 AM
whats wrong with him?

He was told to warm up that he was going on, asked how long was left and was told 7 minutes.   He then asked the linesman and he told him there was 1 minute left so when Carr called him to go on he told him to f**k off.

Never heard that C4E? Is that defo true?If so, I presume thats the end of his IC career

One of the players told me.

Quote from: put-it-up on July 14, 2009, 10:49:36 AM
certainly not the bit about telling Carr to f**k off!

I only read it in the shop, just says he doesnt think Carr will be here next year and not much has changed in the last year.

You give Cavan people a good name  :D :D

Haha, if a neutral stumbles across this board they will find that hilarious!  ;D

Ah I stopped buying that a long time ago, just flick through the odd time in the library,....i mean the shop!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on July 14, 2009, 03:34:24 PM
Quote from: RednBlack on July 14, 2009, 02:38:57 PM
Ha ha I dont think too many neutral will visit a Cavan thread for inspiration anytime soon!!!!  ;D

Followed your lead and had a cheap read. Funny I wouldn't trust any quotes in that paper. Saw one headline recently in the Post from the Drumalee Lavey championship game in Crubany which Drumalee won....."Spoils shared in Crubany"!!! Enough said.

That was probablt the worst piece of attempted sports journalism I have ever seen... The headline and score gave a draw then the opening paragraph went on about the goal which won it for Drumalee and then the closing paragraph started shite-ing on about a draw again...
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on July 14, 2009, 05:40:34 PM
Quote from: Celt_Man on July 14, 2009, 03:34:24 PM
Quote from: RednBlack on July 14, 2009, 02:38:57 PM
Ha ha I dont think too many neutral will visit a Cavan thread for inspiration anytime soon!!!!  ;D

Followed your lead and had a cheap read. Funny I wouldn't trust any quotes in that paper. Saw one headline recently in the Post from the Drumalee Lavey championship game in Crubany which Drumalee won....."Spoils shared in Crubany"!!! Enough said.

That was probablt the worst piece of attempted sports journalism I have ever seen... The headline and score gave a draw then the opening paragraph went on about the goal which won it for Drumalee and then the closing paragraph started shite-ing on about a draw again...

While I wouldnt usually trust the Cavan Post,as they have alot of clowns working there who wouldnt know next to nothing about Sport or Cavan football,I know the person who interviewed Jayo in this case and there has been nothing made up.I would be very doubtful that Jason or the interviewer wanted it on the front page but thats the Cavan Post for ya.Anything for a story.
As for what Jayo said to TC,I heard that myself today.Priceless.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on July 14, 2009, 06:01:54 PM
Miller says he has retired.... again
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Onlooker on July 14, 2009, 06:25:15 PM
Quote from: put-it-up on July 14, 2009, 10:49:36 AM
certainly not the bit about telling Carr to f**k off!

I only read it in the shop, just says he doesnt think Carr will be here next year and not much has changed in the last year.
Brilliant stuff put it up.  Post of the week.  I am still laughing at it.  Well done.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on July 14, 2009, 07:25:40 PM
Jaysus lads our county set up would be hilarious if it werent so sad.
*Players coming out telling the media the Manager wont be here next year
*Players telling a manager to f**k off when hes been brought on.
*Players going to a championship game from Oxygen

we can give out about Tommy Carr and his poor tactical knowledge and man management all we want,
But there are some utter clowns in that Cavan Panel.
If Carr stays i hope he drops about half of them, and brings in a new group of lads.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on July 14, 2009, 07:32:59 PM
Quote from: put-it-up on July 14, 2009, 10:49:36 AM
certainly not the bit about telling Carr to f**k off!

I only read it in the shop, just says he doesnt think Carr will be here next year and not much has changed in the last year.

;D  ;D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on July 14, 2009, 07:48:56 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on July 14, 2009, 07:25:40 PM
*Players going to a championship game from Oxygen

Shotstopper,what was the story here?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on July 14, 2009, 07:55:07 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on July 14, 2009, 07:32:59 PM
Quote from: put-it-up on July 14, 2009, 10:49:36 AM
certainly not the bit about telling Carr to f**k off!

I only read it in the shop, just says he doesnt think Carr will be here next year and not much has changed in the last year.

;D  ;D
I think I was in the queue behind you put-it-up. Just read the bear minimum there this evening and it's embaressing to see it on the front page. It's quite embaressing to discuss Cavan football at this point. Let's hope Hardstation and other outsiders only skim over the last few pages of this thread.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on July 14, 2009, 08:03:05 PM
Quote from: Lawrence of Knockbride on July 14, 2009, 07:55:07 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on July 14, 2009, 07:32:59 PM
Quote from: put-it-up on July 14, 2009, 10:49:36 AM
certainly not the bit about telling Carr to f**k off!

I only read it in the shop, just says he doesnt think Carr will be here next year and not much has changed in the last year.

;D  ;D
I think I was in the queue behind you put-it-up. Just read the bear minimum there this evening and it's embaressing to see it on the front page. It's quite embaressing to discuss Cavan football at this point. Let's hope Hardstation and other outsiders only skim over the last few pages of this thread.

Yeah 2 kids near drown in a lake and jayo's whinges gets the front page not right.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on July 14, 2009, 08:12:19 PM
Quote from: cavan4ever on July 14, 2009, 06:01:54 PM
Miller says he has retired.... again

Did he retire before the Wicklow game or after?

Best of luck to him, I'm sure he will find somewhere else nice and comfy to go to sleep.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on July 14, 2009, 08:27:11 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on July 14, 2009, 08:12:19 PM
Quote from: cavan4ever on July 14, 2009, 06:01:54 PM
Miller says he has retired.... again

Did he retire before the Wicklow game or after?

Best of luck to him, I'm sure he will find somewhere else nice and comfy to go to sleep.

I think he has given good enough service and shouldnt be sneered at.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on July 14, 2009, 08:31:26 PM
Quote from: cavan4ever on July 14, 2009, 08:27:11 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on July 14, 2009, 08:12:19 PM
Quote from: cavan4ever on July 14, 2009, 06:01:54 PM
Miller says he has retired.... again

Did he retire before the Wicklow game or after?

Best of luck to him, I'm sure he will find somewhere else nice and comfy to go to sleep.

I think he has given good enough service and shouldnt be sneered at.

I think he was at fault for two championship goals so if he had any character he'd want to work hard and put that right. I hear that he didn't want to do the training he was asked to either and this bears out in the fact that he has not shown any improvement in his game. Best rid of lads like him if you ask me as I for one am sick of some of these boys bullshit.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on July 14, 2009, 08:33:19 PM
Would anyone like to name the lads that went to Oxygen. I find that just unbelievable even in Cavan.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on July 14, 2009, 08:34:21 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on July 14, 2009, 08:31:26 PM
Quote from: cavan4ever on July 14, 2009, 08:27:11 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on July 14, 2009, 08:12:19 PM
Quote from: cavan4ever on July 14, 2009, 06:01:54 PM
Miller says he has retired.... again

Did he retire before the Wicklow game or after?

Best of luck to him, I'm sure he will find somewhere else nice and comfy to go to sleep.




I think he was at fault for two championship goals so if he had any character he'd want to work hard and put that right. I hear that he didn't want to do the training he was asked to either and this bears out in the fact that he has not shown any improvement in his game. Best rid of lads like him if you ask me as I for one are sick of some of these boys bullshit.

Still gave good service though, and saved cavan from many a hammering.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on July 14, 2009, 08:45:21 PM
Quote from: cavan4ever on July 14, 2009, 08:34:21 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on July 14, 2009, 08:31:26 PM
Quote from: cavan4ever on July 14, 2009, 08:27:11 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on July 14, 2009, 08:12:19 PM
Quote from: cavan4ever on July 14, 2009, 06:01:54 PM
Miller says he has retired.... again

Did he retire before the Wicklow game or after?

Best of luck to him, I'm sure he will find somewhere else nice and comfy to go to sleep.




I think he was at fault for two championship goals so if he had any character he'd want to work hard and put that right. I hear that he didn't want to do the training he was asked to either and this bears out in the fact that he has not shown any improvement in his game. Best rid of lads like him if you ask me as I for one are sick of some of these boys bullshit.

Still gave good service though, and saved cavan from many a hammering.
I'd have to agree with C4E Myles. A lot of rumours flying around. Miller is very sleepy and there have been rumours of his unwillingness to train over the last few years. But let's not slag lads off at this stage. People make rash decisions and say stupid things, especially in Cavan. Let's just let the dust settle-we have several months after all.
Any word of the fixture plan for the championship weekend til I unearth some stars?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on July 14, 2009, 08:52:48 PM
Quote from: Lawrence of Knockbride on July 14, 2009, 08:45:21 PM
Quote from: cavan4ever on July 14, 2009, 08:34:21 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on July 14, 2009, 08:31:26 PM
Quote from: cavan4ever on July 14, 2009, 08:27:11 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on July 14, 2009, 08:12:19 PM
Quote from: cavan4ever on July 14, 2009, 06:01:54 PM
Miller says he has retired.... again

Did he retire before the Wicklow game or after?

Best of luck to him, I'm sure he will find somewhere else nice and comfy to go to sleep.




I think he was at fault for two championship goals so if he had any character he'd want to work hard and put that right. I hear that he didn't want to do the training he was asked to either and this bears out in the fact that he has not shown any improvement in his game. Best rid of lads like him if you ask me as I for one are sick of some of these boys bullshit.

Still gave good service though, and saved cavan from many a hammering.
I'd have to agree with C4E Myles. A lot of rumours flying around. Miller is very sleepy and there have been rumours of his unwillingness to train over the last few years. But let's not slag lads off at this stage. People make rash decisions and say stupid things, especially in Cavan. Let's just let the dust settle-we have several months after all.
Any word of the fixture plan for the championship weekend til I unearth some stars?

Sorry but I'm not tippy toeing around these f**king superstars anymore. f**k them. They disgrace a county with a proud tradition. They could all do with a history lesson on Cavan GAA just so they can understand how low they are dragging it. I'm not expecting All Irelands or even Ulsters, but I expect the county players to behave to high standards and to put 100% into it. And don't give me the shite about sacrifices they make. They get lots back in return. Some got jobs, all get fame, the health, the tracksuit and bag and the struting around Cavan like f**king peacocks. They have to live up to their side of the deal too. Whinging to papers and quiting, going to f**king Oxygen. I am for an absolute zero tolerance on these boys and I don't care own f**k what they did last year or last week for that matter.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on July 14, 2009, 08:58:58 PM
f**k who Myles? Who are you giving out about? My point is that these are merely rumours for the minute. At least wait until some or all of them are substantiated. We've had one post about Oxegen and one about Miller quiting, without even a hint of an explanation or back-up to either story, and you have them in the dock before we even know who they are.
Relax.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on July 14, 2009, 09:00:26 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on July 14, 2009, 08:52:48 PM
Quote from: Lawrence of Knockbride on July 14, 2009, 08:45:21 PM
Quote from: cavan4ever on July 14, 2009, 08:34:21 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on July 14, 2009, 08:31:26 PM
Quote from: cavan4ever on July 14, 2009, 08:27:11 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on July 14, 2009, 08:12:19 PM
Quote from: cavan4ever on July 14, 2009, 06:01:54 PM
Miller says he has retired.... again

Did he retire before the Wicklow game or after?

Best of luck to him, I'm sure he will find somewhere else nice and comfy to go to sleep.




I think he was at fault for two championship goals so if he had any character he'd want to work hard and put that right. I hear that he didn't want to do the training he was asked to either and this bears out in the fact that he has not shown any improvement in his game. Best rid of lads like him if you ask me as I for one are sick of some of these boys bullshit.

Still gave good service though, and saved cavan from many a hammering.
I'd have to agree with C4E Myles. A lot of rumours flying around. Miller is very sleepy and there have been rumours of his unwillingness to train over the last few years. But let's not slag lads off at this stage. People make rash decisions and say stupid things, especially in Cavan. Let's just let the dust settle-we have several months after all.
Any word of the fixture plan for the championship weekend til I unearth some stars?

Sorry but I'm not tippy toeing around these f**king superstars anymore. f**k them. They disgrace a county with a proud tradition. They could all do with a history lesson on Cavan GAA just so they can understand how low they are dragging it. I'm not expecting All Irelands or even Ulsters, but I expect the county players to behave to high standards and to put 100% into it. And don't give me the shite about sacrifices they make. They get lots back in return. Some got jobs, all get fame, the health, the tracksuit and bag and the struting around Cavan like f**king peacocks. They have to live up to their side of the deal too. Whinging to papers and quiting, going to f**king Oxygen. I am for an absolute zero tolerance on these boys and I don't care own f**k what they did last year or last week for that matter.

Are they not allowed quit now? , and james doesnt strut about he isnt like that.  
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: big balla on July 14, 2009, 09:08:17 PM
Quote from: cavan4ever on July 14, 2009, 09:00:26 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on July 14, 2009, 08:52:48 PM
Quote from: Lawrence of Knockbride on July 14, 2009, 08:45:21 PM
Quote from: cavan4ever on July 14, 2009, 08:34:21 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on July 14, 2009, 08:31:26 PM
Quote from: cavan4ever on July 14, 2009, 08:27:11 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on July 14, 2009, 08:12:19 PM
Quote from: cavan4ever on July 14, 2009, 06:01:54 PM
Miller says he has retired.... again

Did he retire before the Wicklow game or after?

Best of luck to him, I'm sure he will find somewhere else nice and comfy to go to sleep.




I think he was at fault for two championship goals so if he had any character he'd want to work hard and put that right. I hear that he didn't want to do the training he was asked to either and this bears out in the fact that he has not shown any improvement in his game. Best rid of lads like him if you ask me as I for one are sick of some of these boys bullshit.

Still gave good service though, and saved cavan from many a hammering.
I'd have to agree with C4E Myles. A lot of rumours flying around. Miller is very sleepy and there have been rumours of his unwillingness to train over the last few years. But let's not slag lads off at this stage. People make rash decisions and say stupid things, especially in Cavan. Let's just let the dust settle-we have several months after all.
Any word of the fixture plan for the championship weekend til I unearth some stars?

Sorry but I'm not tippy toeing around these f**king superstars anymore. f**k them. They disgrace a county with a proud tradition. They could all do with a history lesson on Cavan GAA just so they can understand how low they are dragging it. I'm not expecting All Irelands or even Ulsters, but I expect the county players to behave to high standards and to put 100% into it. And don't give me the shite about sacrifices they make. They get lots back in return. Some got jobs, all get fame, the health, the tracksuit and bag and the struting around Cavan like f**king peacocks. They have to live up to their side of the deal too. Whinging to papers and quiting, going to f**king Oxygen. I am for an absolute zero tolerance on these boys and I don't care own f**k what they did last year or last week for that matter.

Are they not allowed quit now? , and james doesnt strut about he isnt like that.  
they are well entitled to quit C4E, but quitting every year just so they'l be begged to come  back is no good to anyone. And if reports are true, James isn't exactly the most dedicated when he does decide to grace us with his presence
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on July 14, 2009, 09:18:21 PM
I think the Oxegen thing started off as an (I hope) tongue in cheek/throw away line a page or two ago and it might have grown some legs, or at least I hope so. Christ if it seriously came to lads who togged out on Saturday making the trip down from a Rock Festival one of the following needs to happen:

1. Carr needs to come out with a statement that these lads would not be playing much further part in the panel; or else

2. He needs to come out with a statement about his own position.

I'm willing to believe it's a bit of poetic licence at this stage- like Paddy Bradley and Martin Cahill quitting their county panels last week
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on July 14, 2009, 09:36:14 PM
Quote from: RednBlack on July 14, 2009, 09:23:04 PM
Quote from: boojangles on July 14, 2009, 07:48:56 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on July 14, 2009, 07:25:40 PM
*Players going to a championship game from Oxygen

Shotstopper,what was the story here?
Only know of one for sure who definitely went on Friday - Rory Dunne

As if he isnt slow enough.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on July 14, 2009, 09:38:39 PM
Myles, no doubt about it you are hacked off and are entitled to be after your episode on Saturday. However I think you might need to pause for thought just for a moment. One area where the rewards of being an inter county player are disappearing a bit is on the job prospect front. Sure a few years ago it was a passport to a job in the bank sales repping or whatever if that was your line. The outfit I work for sponsor more than one inter county team. I've seen lads fall down on job interviews because it was clear they had big GAA committments and it was felt could not commit to the job. I've seen lads get jobs and lose them because of GAA committments. This will only get worse.

If we look outsider our own county I'd be worried about some of the developments this year. The likes of Laois, Roscommon, Westmeath getting absolutely tanked in the championship, all counties with some bit of past underage success. I fear it is going to get to the stage where there will be no more than 4 or 5 counties competing seroiusly with the rest having trouble getting 30 lads to commit to 6 months of hard slog with no real prospect of success at the highest level. Reading this it seems like we have trouble getting 30 to commit, we might not be alone on that one.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: ExiledGael on July 14, 2009, 10:08:40 PM
We've been through something like this in the past (mid eighties) and not too long after that we had the breakthrough success of a number of sides (Down, Donegal, Derry) so I don't think we're in the kind of trouble hurling is.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on July 14, 2009, 10:36:22 PM
Quote from: RednBlack on July 14, 2009, 09:23:04 PM
Quote from: boojangles on July 14, 2009, 07:48:56 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on July 14, 2009, 07:25:40 PM
*Players going to a championship game from Oxygen

Shotstopper,what was the story here?
Only know of one for sure who definitely went on Friday - Rory Dunne
Im flabbergasted to say the least. :o :o The management had to have known this.He obviously didnt travel down with the team. What is happening? I just dunno what to think anymore. The Cavan jersey obviously means f**k all to some anymore.
A club mate of mine walked away from the County set up in January.I thought he may have jumped the gun a bit. Obviously not.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on July 14, 2009, 11:05:16 PM
Quote from: cavan4ever on July 14, 2009, 09:36:14 PM
Quote from: RednBlack on July 14, 2009, 09:23:04 PM
Quote from: boojangles on July 14, 2009, 07:48:56 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on July 14, 2009, 07:25:40 PM
*Players going to a championship game from Oxygen

Shotstopper,what was the story here?
Only know of one for sure who definitely went on Friday - Rory Dunne

As if he isnt slow enough.

Rory Dunne has put in some great service to Cavan and doesn't deserve to be sneered at?

Angle Celt - No one is forced to play for Cavan. They should all know whats expected and if they don't want to do it then they should not go in. I am quite relaxed and I don't regret one letter in my post. The time for understanding and tolerance have gone and in hindsight it was gone 5 years ago. Enough is enough.

Lawrence - you know full well who the lads are swaning around Cavan on the beer after matches in their team jackets. I'd wouldn't give them one bit of gear to bring home with them until such a time as they've earned it. There are no doubt some genuine lads and I of course excuse them from my rant but clearly we still have an issue with this and I understood TC was going to deal with it - obviously he has not.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on July 14, 2009, 11:29:24 PM
Quote from: Onlooker on July 14, 2009, 06:25:15 PM
Quote from: put-it-up on July 14, 2009, 10:49:36 AM
certainly not the bit about telling Carr to f**k off!

I only read it in the shop, just says he doesnt think Carr will be here next year and not much has changed in the last year.
Brilliant stuff put it up.  Post of the week.  I am still laughing at it.  Well done.
Jaysus lads there is great banter in this lately!

I'm glad im not the only one that just scimped over it in the shop, even if i do sound like a cheap skate. Havin bought the post in at least a year..I gave up on it. I heard about the Drumalee Lavey report, it took the biscuit.

i am sorry but there is no way I believe Rory went to the game from oxegen. The management defo would have known about it or if not surely some of the players would have heard and should have flagged it up. If that really happened that is a new low, but I don't believe it. He knew beforehand he was starting surely any who half-cared would not do that.

With regards to miller, he does this every year. I'm sorry but i think we need to start looking at proper alternatives and find genuine competition for that place so he cant just do what he wants and waltz back in when the games start. Remember Keogan said something about many of them want the perks of being an intercounty player but dont want to put in the effort. Well he sounds like a chief culprit. Good keeper though ;D

Ah I just dont know what to think anymore. TC talks a good game but were not seeing it on the pitch, and I thought he was in there to put discipline on the panel. Then you have Jayo saying he is too easy-going. And by the way, if any of us were Jayo been asked to come on with a minute to go and 8 points downs. I'd say most of you would have said the same thing! ;D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on July 14, 2009, 11:35:46 PM
And I jsut though Rory could have went up on Friday with just a day pass and been home in his bed by 12.That is not that bad if that was the case. I imagine he would not have drank and left all his friend to drive him, So ease off until it becomes clear what went on.

innocent until proven guilty. We are all pissed off and frustrated but slating people wont solve anything. I think a lot of question will be raised about the teams performance this year, but TC will have to come up with the answers. He had a year to get to know players personalities and attitudes. He should know by now who he likes and who he doesnt. Judge him after another year>
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: shotstopper1 on July 14, 2009, 11:58:10 PM
From Cavan Post website
http://www.cavanpost.ie/2009/07/14/oreilly-predicts-carrs-departure/ (http://www.cavanpost.ie/2009/07/14/oreilly-predicts-carrs-departure/)


CAVAN manager Tommy Carr's reign hangs in the balance  the team's disastrous exit to unfashionable Wicklow in the All-Ireland Qualifier on Saturday led a senior player cast doubt on his future.

After a turbulent tenure which has seen Cavan languishing in D3 of the National League, and fall to footballing minnows Antrim and Wicklow in the Championship, Breffni marksman Jason O'Reilly has predicted Carr's resignation after less than a year. However the Cavan manager revealed to the Post that he wishes to stay in the hot-seat despite such a senior figure speaking out.

Thirteen-year veteran O'Reilly was less than optimistic of Carr's chances of staying on as manager after the weekend's poor 1-12 to 0-08 defeat at the hands of the Garden County. According to Jayo, one of the two surviving panel members of the triumphant Cavan '97 side, there were a deep-rooted problems in the team when previous manager Donal Keogan left and very little has changed under Carr's tenure.

"There are a number of lads in the set-up who just do what they need to do to keep hold of the shirt," said Jason. "They don't feel like they need to do more than the bare minimum to keep the shirt. I think a lot of the players were a little bit afraid of Donal and then Tommy came in and things were more easy going. It was more of the same. Something needs to change. You can't be losing the games we lost against teams like Antrim and Wicklow."

When asked if he thought Carr would be in charge of Cavan for the next campaign, Jason said "I don't think so".

The Rory O'Moore's forward says he was left feeling very disappointed by Carr's decision not to play him more regularly this year despite making a committment to senior players when he was appointed.

"In my 13 years with Cavan I've missed five training sessions," said Jason. "There are not a lot of players who can say that. To get the amount of playing time I got after being promised more was a huge disappointment."

While Tommy Carr refused to comment on individual players, he did say that there were a good 10 players in the squad who probably felt they had a right to more time on the pitch. He said he could understand the disappointment within the panel but also noted that Cavan's team was no great shakes when he took charge.

"Cavan football has been in free fall for the last few years," he said. "This year saw a bigger ratio of wins for the side than last year. I don't know if we even won a game in the league last year. There was never going to be an immediate turn around. We played three games in the Championship this year. We said we would be happy to play four, so we weren't that far off. A lot of work needs to be done and I would like to be here to do it."
Regardless of the manager's desire to stay on, the stinging criticism from such a senior figure as O'Reilly - who claims "a good few" county players feel the same way as himself - could lead to a wider loss in confidence. Tommy admits that he still has to consider his options.

"I haven't even spoken to my management team yet. We will meet up and reflect on how things went and look at where we are and then decide from there," said Tommy.


I think someone should have informed TC that last year we played Div 2 football against better opposition and beat Cork, and lost to Armagh (Div 2) & Kildare (div 1)in the Championship.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tierworker blue on July 15, 2009, 12:48:21 AM
Bejaysus...Things are lively here, eh?! I hav'nt been online since my beautiful evening in Aughrim...A few days off from thinking about Cavan football was required for sanity's sake!
Like most, I also think TC should be left where he is...chopping and changing management is not a solution and in my humble opinion we'd be cutting off our nose to spite our face. I liked the fact that he threw a few lads off the panel for being uncommitted etc and I believe that's the right approach to have from the get go, but I'll have to say now that I'm becoming increasingly unhappy at how he lines out the team and how slow he seems to make vital changes. Still, I think he deserves another year before I start calling for his goolies!
I firmly believe that a sports psychologist should be a permanent fixture on the backroom team, because if we are ever going to drag ourselves out of the doldrums and compete at a decent level again, there is going to have to be serious work on the mindset of the players. Now, I know this is a personal bugbear of mine, and feel free to tell me to shut up for dragging up the same stuff over and over (my sports psychology rant normally gets an airing every few months!) but unless you believe you can win, you'll find it difficult to go out and get results. I go to most games, and the manner in which the lads go about their business sometimes just screams defeatism...you just know by the way they are  carrying themselves that they are beaten men...even in games that are totally winable. I honestly can't get over how unmotivated they seem at times...absolutely no fire in the bellies whatsoever.
The weight of constant loosing is weighing us down and it will take a total mental attitude change before we can begin to turn this around. Some dismiss it as mumbo jumbo, but I think it's a vital ingredient.
I agree with all the other posts and ideas in relation to finding new players who should be given a shot, the divisional games (i'm a big fan of this idea...if run properly of course! The better players playing the better players more often...how could it be a bad thing?!) and I'm totally in favour of ditching wasters no matter how talented. Generally speaking, I think we're all basically on the same page, but that's just my 2 cents in relation to the motivational side of things.
A great manager will be part disciplinarian, part psychologist, part motivator, part trainer, part sideline genius etc etc (that list could go on...) and being realistic, it's hard to find all that in one person. Because we have gone so far down the food chain, it will possibly take someone who posesses all of these traits to help drag us up, and managers like this are'nt around every corner. If the manager himself does'nt have all the ingredients, he should be surrounded by people who bring the skills he is lacking in to the table.
TC does'nt have all the right stuff, so I'd be leaning towards putting together a stronger management team to help strengthen things. Sure, let the man work to his strengths, but that should'nt mean that the things he is weak in get left by the wayside...every aspect of preparing a winning team is as vital as the next. I have banged on a bit, but I'm sure ye'll get where I'm coming from!



Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on July 15, 2009, 08:12:02 AM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on July 14, 2009, 11:05:16 PM
Quote from: cavan4ever on July 14, 2009, 09:36:14 PM
Quote from: RednBlack on July 14, 2009, 09:23:04 PM
Quote from: boojangles on July 14, 2009, 07:48:56 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on July 14, 2009, 07:25:40 PM
*Players going to a championship game from Oxygen

Shotstopper,what was the story here?
Only know of one for sure who definitely went on Friday - Rory Dunne

As if he isnt slow enough.

Rory Dunne has put in some great service to Cavan and doesn't deserve to be sneered at?


You know full well James Reilly has played for Cavan for over 10 years. Rory Dunne hasnt been around pissing time.   I know your in bad form Myles but with your f**k everything attitude id say you could get a job beside Davey Fitz down in Waterford.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on July 15, 2009, 08:39:30 AM
I agree with put-it-up. Dunne probably wanted to see Lady Ga-Ga and so got a day pass and came home. Again, we don't know. I also agree with Tierworker Blue on the psychology thing. Upstairs is where the difference is made in GAA among the majority of teams who are of similar ability.
Now I'm done with this shite of damning everyone in the county panel with no evidence. I'll leave that to Myles and the rags.
Club football anyone?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Babe Ruth 47 on July 15, 2009, 10:48:47 AM
Jaysus lads this has really got heated in here. Think about it, if we had managed to get our heads out of our arses we should be preparing for an Ulster final. Imagine the excitement. Arguably we would be papering over the cracks, but no doubt we would have some people confident we could beat Tyrone if they had a bad day. Oh how things change in a fortnight. For my tupence worth after finally having calmed down after saturday. I definately think T.C. should stay. He really need to strenghten the backroom team, there seems to be a lot of favourites, Keating, Brady etc. Diassapointed to hear Jason's comments I really though T.C. would be able to lay a stable foundation, with an emphasis on discipline but this obviously isn't the case.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on July 15, 2009, 10:54:46 AM
Quote from: Lawrence of Knockbride on July 15, 2009, 08:39:30 AM
I agree with put-it-up. Dunne probably wanted to see Lady Ga-Ga and so got a day pass and came home. Again, we don't know. I also agree with Tierworker Blue on the psychology thing. Upstairs is where the difference is made in GAA among the majority of teams who are of similar ability.
Now I'm done with this shite of damning everyone in the county panel with no evidence. I'll leave that to Myles and the rags.
Club football anyone?

I didn't damn everyone on the panel. If your going to damn me get your facts right.

You wrote this after Antrim game so don't be comparing me to red top rags...

"Well done to Antrim. They played well and totally deserved their win. Now that we're all back to reality, as a Cavan follower for many a year that is the worst championship performance I've witnessed in the blue jersey, and I've thought about it for a few hours. To analyse what was wrong would take me several hours and this maybe should have been posted on our local thread.
Disgraceful attitude, baffling tactics and just plain bad performances by players we probably thought were better than they are. Embaressing. Them boys would want to keep out of sight til the qualifiers in shame. I'd nearly expect to see an apology for us fools that followed them around the country this year. If I was good enough to be a in a position to train for 6 months with these games being the ultimate focus and I turned out a performance like that you'd wonder was there any point.
Good night."

Cavan4ever - Is there a sliding scale of how much a waster you can be versus time on the panel?

Some of the county players need to get a message from the fans that this is not good enough. No more slaps on the back for making the panel, giving  them big heads and feeding the superstar attitudes. We can at least do that much. I'm done with the understanding of the sacrifice and the tolerance etc etc. I'm not the only one either, I'd say no more than 100 travelled to Wicklow.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on July 15, 2009, 11:00:30 AM
I'm with Myles to a certain extent here. By all means lets wait until we can be sure that some players have actually done wrong before calling for stern actions, but IF it has been shown that the culture of swinging the lead and acting the bollix is still rife in the panel, then I reiterate what I've been saying for years: chuck everyone of them out on their ear and start again with a panel of raw 20 year-olds who will stay there and work for the long haul to get longer term results. Because you're just running about with one foot nailed to the floor otherwise.

There's a black cancer eating away at Cavan football from the inside and it even looks terminal. I've honestly never felt as low as a Cavan supporter since I saw my first game in 1986.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on July 15, 2009, 11:06:36 AM
Quote from: RednBlack on July 15, 2009, 09:15:52 AM
Dunne went to Oxegen stayed in Dublin and got on the bus there. Jayo was told to warm up with Eddie Reilly, both went off to the corner, Eddie got called back a minute later. Jayo stood in corner 40 yards away from dugouts never came back down. Co Sec called him twice to come back and either didn't hear or didn't bother as he stayed in corner with rain gear on. With time nearly up Co Sec walked over to TC and asked about Jayo who looked at his watch and said its too late. Co Sec called Jayo back again and he came down. Co Sec shook his head at Jayo who walked into dugout with other players muttering something (nowhere within earshot of TC) and sat down. This is from a very accurate source who was within 20 feet of the whole thing was closer to Jayo than TC and heard him say nothing. There is always two sides to every story.

Now whoever was slating Dunne may apologise. There is nothing wrong with going to a concert the day before a game is there?and it made more sense to stay in Dublin rather than commute back, to come the whole way back up again. I knew there was no way, he would be sleepin in fields before a game.

Revgardless of what Jayo did or did not say, I think we can presume his IC career is over!I think we all need to stop to nasty gossip and let the dust settle down. All will be revealed in time. I'm hoping the Celt have a good interview with TC explaining where he wants to go and what he thinks needs to change this week. Jayo has humiliated him and he deserves a chance to defend himself. I do think there  should be changes to the backroom team. Some one said about using each others strenghts. Clearly tactics are not TC's so get the right man in to help him.

Any I think, as Lawrence suggests we need to move on for a while and as I said let the dust settle.

Wish there was championship games this weekend. Our club has been something like 5 weeks without a game which is jsut ridiculous.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on July 15, 2009, 11:13:46 AM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on July 15, 2009, 10:54:46 AM
Quote from: Lawrence of Knockbride on July 15, 2009, 08:39:30 AM
I agree with put-it-up. Dunne probably wanted to see Lady Ga-Ga and so got a day pass and came home. Again, we don't know. I also agree with Tierworker Blue on the psychology thing. Upstairs is where the difference is made in GAA among the majority of teams who are of similar ability.
Now I'm done with this shite of damning everyone in the county panel with no evidence. I'll leave that to Myles and the rags.
Club football anyone?

I didn't damn everyone on the panel. If your going to damn me get your facts right.

I never said you did anything so no facts required if you're going to get all Hollow Man on it.

You wrote this after Antrim game so don't be comparing me to red top rags...

"Well done to Antrim. They played well and totally deserved their win. Now that we're all back to reality, as a Cavan follower for many a year that is the worst championship performance I've witnessed in the blue jersey, and I've thought about it for a few hours. To analyse what was wrong would take me several hours and this maybe should have been posted on our local thread.
Disgraceful attitude, baffling tactics and just plain bad performances by players we probably thought were better than they are. Embaressing. Them boys would want to keep out of sight til the qualifiers in shame. I'd nearly expect to see an apology for us fools that followed them around the country this year. If I was good enough to be a in a position to train for 6 months with these games being the ultimate focus and I turned out a performance like that you'd wonder was there any point.
Good night."

I said all this after watching the game and it was based on the players performance on the pitch as I WITNESSED it. Not what I heard from other posters or rumours which may or may not have happened. It was an analysis of the performance and my opinion on what they should do in light of that performance. So I think you'll agree there's a fair difference. And I didn't compare you to a rag-I said I'd leave the damning of players without any evidence to you and the rags. So I won't respond aggressively and needlessly like you but reiterate my original point which is to not jump to conclusions until we hear some facts. I'm agreeing with your general view on things but only IF they're true.
Cavan4ever - Is there a sliding scale of how much a waster you can be versus time on the panel?

Some of the county players need to get a message from the fans that this is not good enough. No more slaps on the back for making the panel, giving  them big heads and feeding the superstar attitudes. We can at least do that much. I'm done with the understanding of the sacrifice and the tolerance etc etc. I'm not the only one either, I'd say no more than 100 travelled to Wicklow.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on July 15, 2009, 11:24:14 AM
From the Celt's website

Cavan manager Tom Carr stated that Breffni supporters are going to have to be "awfully patient" in their demands for success following Cavan's defeat to Wicklow last Saturday evening.

Asked what message he would give to disappointed fans after his side's championship exit, Carr stated that there is a future in this Cavan side and that the road to success would be "a long process".

"Well, I mean, I'm not sure if my head is being called for just yet after six months," he said.

"I haven't heard that... But that's fine, I don't have a problem with that.

"People have their views and opinions. But I think from where Cavan is coming from, they are going to have to be awfully patient. I don't have the magic touch, nor does any of my management team, it's purely and utterly a work ethic that's required."

The manager was adamant that his side had enough possession to win the match.

"No defeat is easy to swallow. We came here with how high hopes, we'd like to have addressed the last game we played against Antrim, we didn't do so. We had plenty of possession to do it [but] we couldn't convert it in the second half. It's very disappointing for all concerned," he said.

Carr admitted that he was aware prior to the game of the magnitude of the challenge an in-form Wicklow would present.

"I think you're coming to a team who are coming off the back of a win and were at home so it was always going to be difficult. Why didn't we turn it on? I don't know is the simple answer.

"We did everything in our power to do it but other than that, I don't know.

"We didn't play it fast enough, we allowed them to get back and make the tackles and they did work awfully hard as they did against Fermanagh, and credit to them for that."

Cavan's lack of physicality was exposed against a stronger Garden outfit whose strength, said Carr, afforded them an advantage in the conditions.

"The evening was horrific," he said.

"We're not the most physically-domineering team in the world and you'll pay for that on a day like today. We did get caught in the tackle and we did let balls go but ultimately we had enough possession, we just didn't convert it."

Asked what the solution to Cavan's poor run could be, Tipperary native Carr claimed that hard work and commitment will be key.

"It's a case of having to work, there is nothing wrong with Cavan football, the players are going to have to come together and be committed. They are going to have to make a choice to be in a physical condition to compete at the very highest level and that takes a massive, massive mental and physical commitment."

Veteran Wicklow manager Mick O'Dwyer admitted that he was "amazed" that his side had it so easy against an out of sorts Cavan.

"I think when we got the goal it settled our team and that was most important. I was amazed because that is a good Cavan team, they are a young team with a lot of good footballers but they'll come again. We held up the ball well and we worked for one another," he said.

"Our six backs played exceptionally well today, I think that was the secret of our win."

Cavan defender Paul Brady, meanwhile, claimed that the bigger picture needs to be looked at.

"It's very disappointing, but we have to go back to the drawing board and really I think everybody at all levels will have to look at everything and see where is it all going wrong," said the Mullahoran defender.

"The players, myself included, need to put their hands up and I think Cavan people really need to look at where we're going as a county.

Wicklow's goal, claimed Sean Johnston, was the crucial score.

"It was a disappointing result, maybe after the Antrim game we could have said we could have worked harder but I think all the boys did put their shoulder to the wheel and work hard, I think it was just a failure to get some crucial scores at crucial times," said the corner-forward.

"In fairness, you have to give credit to Wicklow, they played very well. It was poor conditions but it was the same for both teams, they got a slippy enough goal and a goal in a game like that was always going to make a huge difference.

"I think that might have put them four or five points up and even when we got it back to three, it was always difficult to get that back, that goal was still keeping them ahead.

Johnston, who scored 0-12 (0-5 from play) in Cavan's three championship matches praised what he called the "true fans" who made the long trek to Aughrim to support the team.

"The fans who came down this evening, I suppose you could call them true fans and it's very disappointing for them.

You have to give them great credit for travelling down this far, it's a long spin down on a very wet dreary evening and I'd be very disappointed for those fans, but only those fans," he stated.
Cavan manager Tom Carr stated that Breffni supporters are going to have to be "awfully patient" in their demands for success following Cavan's defeat to Wicklow last Saturday evening.

Asked what message he would give to disappointed fans after his side's championship exit, Carr stated that there is a future in this Cavan side and that the road to success would be "a long process".

"Well, I mean, I'm not sure if my head is being called for just yet after six months," he said.

"I haven't heard that... But that's fine, I don't have a problem with that.

"People have their views and opinions. But I think from where Cavan is coming from, they are going to have to be awfully patient. I don't have the magic touch, nor does any of my management team, it's purely and utterly a work ethic that's required."

The manager was adamant that his side had enough possession to win the match.

"No defeat is easy to swallow. We came here with how high hopes, we'd like to have addressed the last game we played against Antrim, we didn't do so. We had plenty of possession to do it [but] we couldn't convert it in the second half. It's very disappointing for all concerned," he said.

Carr admitted that he was aware prior to the game of the magnitude of the challenge an in-form Wicklow would present.

"I think you're coming to a team who are coming off the back of a win and were at home so it was always going to be difficult. Why didn't we turn it on? I don't know is the simple answer.

"We did everything in our power to do it but other than that, I don't know.

"We didn't play it fast enough, we allowed them to get back and make the tackles and they did work awfully hard as they did against Fermanagh, and credit to them for that."

Cavan's lack of physicality was exposed against a stronger Garden outfit whose strength, said Carr, afforded them an advantage in the conditions.

"The evening was horrific," he said.

"We're not the most physically-domineering team in the world and you'll pay for that on a day like today. We did get caught in the tackle and we did let balls go but ultimately we had enough possession, we just didn't convert it."

Asked what the solution to Cavan's poor run could be, Tipperary native Carr claimed that hard work and commitment will be key.

"It's a case of having to work, there is nothing wrong with Cavan football, the players are going to have to come together and be committed. They are going to have to make a choice to be in a physical condition to compete at the very highest level and that takes a massive, massive mental and physical commitment."

Veteran Wicklow manager Mick O'Dwyer admitted that he was "amazed" that his side had it so easy against an out of sorts Cavan.

"I think when we got the goal it settled our team and that was most important. I was amazed because that is a good Cavan team, they are a young team with a lot of good footballers but they'll come again. We held up the ball well and we worked for one another," he said.

"Our six backs played exceptionally well today, I think that was the secret of our win."

Cavan defender Paul Brady, meanwhile, claimed that the bigger picture needs to be looked at.

"It's very disappointing, but we have to go back to the drawing board and really I think everybody at all levels will have to look at everything and see where is it all going wrong," said the Mullahoran defender.

"The players, myself included, need to put their hands up and I think Cavan people really need to look at where we're going as a county.

Wicklow's goal, claimed Sean Johnston, was the crucial score.

"It was a disappointing result, maybe after the Antrim game we could have said we could have worked harder but I think all the boys did put their shoulder to the wheel and work hard, I think it was just a failure to get some crucial scores at crucial times," said the corner-forward.

"In fairness, you have to give credit to Wicklow, they played very well. It was poor conditions but it was the same for both teams, they got a slippy enough goal and a goal in a game like that was always going to make a huge difference.

"I think that might have put them four or five points up and even when we got it back to three, it was always difficult to get that back, that goal was still keeping them ahead.

Johnston, who scored 0-12 (0-5 from play) in Cavan's three championship matches praised what he called the "true fans" who made the long trek to Aughrim to support the team.

"The fans who came down this evening, I suppose you could call them true fans and it's very disappointing for them.

You have to give them great credit for travelling down this far, it's a long spin down on a very wet dreary evening and I'd be very disappointed for those fans, but only those fans," he stated.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on July 15, 2009, 11:39:18 AM
Thought this piece from the Indo would interest you boys as well. Isn't great how I dont even have to go into shops to read this stuff anymore thanks to the world wide web ;D ;D

Why do newspapers put their stuff up for natin anyway!!!

Cavan manager Tommy Carr has no intention of quitting, despite criticism from one of the county's most experienced players.

Jason O'Reilly, scorer of the goal that sealed Cavan's last Ulster title in 1997 when they beat Derry in the final, said he doesn't expect Carr to remain in place next season.

O'Reilly claims that his views are shared by "a good few" members of the squad following defeats to Antrim in an Ulster semi-final and to Wicklow in Aughrim in the qualifiers last weekend.

Carr took over last September after Cavan turned to the Sports Tracker company to oversee the recruitment process. They lost four out of seven games in Division Three of the NFL but perked up to beat Fermanagh in an Ulster quarter-final.

Carr (right) argued yesterday that O'Reilly's criticism may stem from the dearth of game time he had this season under his management.

"If Jason's views are shared by a number of players, it's something I would certainly have to reflect on," said Carr.

"But his comments should be taken in context. He didn't get much action and perhaps that is the source of his frustration."

O'Reilly told a local newspaper that things had become "more easy-going" under Carr than they had been under his predecessor Donal Keogan.

"There are a number of lads in the set-up who just do what they need to do to keep hold of the shirt," O'Reilly said. "They don't feel like they need to do more than the bare minimum to keep the shirt.

"I think a lot of the players were a little bit afraid of Donal and then Tommy came in and things were more easy-going. It was more of the same. Something needs to change. You can't be losing the games we lost against teams like Antrim and Wicklow.

"In my 13 years with Cavan I've missed five training sessions. There are not a lot of players who can say that. To get the amount of playing time I got after being promised more was a huge disappointment."

Carr said that at no stage was O'Reilly or any other player promised a particular amount of game time.

"Jason got bits and pieces here and there but we didn't see him as the future of Cavan football. We would have explained that to him."

Carr said there is enormous work to do in Cavan and he was prepared to oversee it. But he admitted that if it emerges that a majority of players don't want him, he would consider his options.

"I would imagine there are seven or eight fellas who feel like Jason but that's the nature of things when you don't get your game."

Carr was unimpressed with O'Reilly's decision to air his views so publicly so soon after the Wicklow game.

"It's very disappointing for everyone in Cavan," he said. "This week we could have been preparing for an Ulster final. But instead we have this.

"I'm more disappointed about the Antrim defeat than Saturday evening. The effort and application in Aughrim I couldn't fault."

- Colm Keys
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on July 15, 2009, 12:34:16 PM
That's just a lot of general old yadda yadda from TC as far as I can see, it doesn't really tackle the real issue at all. We were just flat on the day, can't explain it etc. etc. no mention of why we are so lacking in spirit and drive and so on.

You won't tackle a problem unless you admit it's there, if not in the press then hopefully behind closed doors although it's hard to be confident that's happening either.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on July 15, 2009, 12:53:27 PM
QuoteCavan4ever - Is there a sliding scale of how much a waster you can be versus time on the panel?

I just think someone who has been playing for cavan over 10 years deserves a bit more respect. 

Is Jason, Dermot, Peter and Larry Wasters?   

Id guess you would say they are.


Dunne went to the concert on Thurdsay, stayed over thurdsday night and went to dublin friday.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: North Longford on July 15, 2009, 01:14:26 PM
Tommy Carr acts as a pundit along with Declan Rowley on Shannonsides decent enough sports show between 6 and 7 on a Friday. Might be worth switching your dials over from Northern Sound for an hour this Friday lads as the presenter said on Monday that he would be questionning him about Cavans championship campaign.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on July 15, 2009, 02:53:00 PM
Quote from: put-it-up on July 15, 2009, 11:24:14 AM






Johnston, who scored 0-12 (0-5 from play) in Cavan's three championship matches praised what he called the "true fans" who made the long trek to Aughrim to support the team.

"The fans who came down this evening, I suppose you could call them true fans and it's very disappointing for them.

You have to give them great credit for travelling down this far, it's a long spin down on a very wet dreary evening and I'd be very disappointed for those fans, but only those fans," he  said You have to give them great credit for travelling down this far, it's a long spin down on a very wet dreary evening and I'd be very disappointed for those fans, but only those fans," he stated.

I love the little quib at the fans who didnt travel to Aughrim,
Wind your neck in Johnson, a better attitude from pre madonnas like yourself and maybe more Fans would travel distances to watch you.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on July 15, 2009, 03:17:04 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on July 15, 2009, 02:53:00 PM
Quote from: put-it-up on July 15, 2009, 11:24:14 AM






Johnston, who scored 0-12 (0-5 from play) in Cavan's three championship matches praised what he called the "true fans" who made the long trek to Aughrim to support the team.

"The fans who came down this evening, I suppose you could call them true fans and it's very disappointing for them.

You have to give them great credit for travelling down this far, it's a long spin down on a very wet dreary evening and I'd be very disappointed for those fans, but only those fans," he  said You have to give them great credit for travelling down this far, it's a long spin down on a very wet dreary evening and I'd be very disappointed for those fans, but only those fans," he stated.

I love the little quib at the fans who didnt travel to Aughrim,
Wind your neck in Johnson, a better attitude from pre madonnas like yourself and maybe more Fans would travel distances to watch you.

Agreed, such a little bollix. He doesn't mind waving at all the fans when he kicks over a point. This is the attitude I am talking about.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on July 15, 2009, 04:18:36 PM
Quote from: RednBlack on July 15, 2009, 03:42:15 PM
Quote from: cavan4ever on July 14, 2009, 11:06:13 AM
Quote from: put-it-up on July 14, 2009, 10:28:34 AM
Quote from: cavan4ever on July 14, 2009, 10:22:12 AM
Quote from: RednBlack on July 14, 2009, 10:17:25 AM
whats wrong with him?

He was told to warm up that he was going on, asked how long was left and was told 7 minutes.   He then asked the linesman and he told him there was 1 minute left so when Carr called him to go on he told him to f**k off.


Never heard that C4E? Is that defo true?If so, I presume thats the end of his IC career

One of the players told me.

Quote from: put-it-up on July 14, 2009, 10:49:36 AM
certainly not the bit about telling Carr to f**k off!

I only read it in the shop, just says he doesnt think Carr will be here next year and not much has changed in the last year.

You give Cavan people a good name  :D :D
;D Looking for a bit of value???? Killygarry v Ramor free entry tonight @ 8pm as its the replay of their abandoned game earlier in the season!!! Expecting a full house....lol



I don't think I am ever going to live that one down  ;D

Free in RNB, sure you would be losing money not going!

Im off football for a while ( a day or two), its the cinema for me tonight...I wonder if that will be free ;D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Hollow Man on July 15, 2009, 05:58:32 PM
Quotepre madonnas

Ballyhaise Man, do you mean "prima donnas", or are you talking about something which happened in the pop world in the era prior to the emergence of the American singer Madonna in the early 1980's?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on July 15, 2009, 06:12:29 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on July 15, 2009, 03:17:04 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on July 15, 2009, 02:53:00 PM
Quote from: put-it-up on July 15, 2009, 11:24:14 AM






Johnston, who scored 0-12 (0-5 from play) in Cavan's three championship matches praised what he called the "true fans" who made the long trek to Aughrim to support the team.

"The fans who came down this evening, I suppose you could call them true fans and it's very disappointing for them.

You have to give them great credit for travelling down this far, it's a long spin down on a very wet dreary evening and I'd be very disappointed for those fans, but only those fans," he  said You have to give them great credit for travelling down this far, it's a long spin down on a very wet dreary evening and I'd be very disappointed for those fans, but only those fans," he stated.

I love the little quib at the fans who didnt travel to Aughrim,
Wind your neck in Johnson, a better attitude from pre madonnas like yourself and maybe more Fans would travel distances to watch you.

Agreed, such a little bollix. He doesn't mind waving at all the fans when he kicks over a point. This is the attitude I am talking about.

Wouldn't agree at all.... In my mind, that's saying thanks to all the real fans out there... i.e. not the ones who go to one game against Antrim full as a bingo bus and leave 5 minutes into the second half and then think they know it all about Cavan football so much so that they are well within their right to point out the failings of the county team to any county players they meet - usually with by 10 pint of the Black stuff inside them...
I just think Johnston is an easy target sometimes
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on July 15, 2009, 06:49:30 PM
Quote from: Celt_Man on July 15, 2009, 06:12:29 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on July 15, 2009, 03:17:04 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on July 15, 2009, 02:53:00 PM
Quote from: put-it-up on July 15, 2009, 11:24:14 AM






Johnston, who scored 0-12 (0-5 from play) in Cavan's three championship matches praised what he called the "true fans" who made the long trek to Aughrim to support the team.

"The fans who came down this evening, I suppose you could call them true fans and it's very disappointing for them.

You have to give them great credit for travelling down this far, it's a long spin down on a very wet dreary evening and I'd be very disappointed for those fans, but only those fans," he  said You have to give them great credit for travelling down this far, it's a long spin down on a very wet dreary evening and I'd be very disappointed for those fans, but only those fans," he stated.

I love the little quib at the fans who didnt travel to Aughrim,
Wind your neck in Johnson, a better attitude from pre madonnas like yourself and maybe more Fans would travel distances to watch you.

Agreed, such a little bollix. He doesn't mind waving at all the fans when he kicks over a point. This is the attitude I am talking about.

Wouldn't agree at all.... In my mind, that's saying thanks to all the real fans out there... i.e. not the ones who go to one game against Antrim full as a bingo bus and leave 5 minutes into the second half and then think they know it all about Cavan football so much so that they are well within their right to point out the failings of the county team to any county players they meet - usually with by 10 pint of the Black stuff inside them...
I just think Johnston is an easy target sometimes

Would agree with Celt mostly here.We all know Jellys attitude can be frustrating to watch sometimes,and he could do with encouraging team mates around him more but at the end of the day if every Cavan player had the same attitude to improving themselves as Sean Johnston we wouldnt be in the mess we are in.The man has probably trained 6 out of 7 days for the last 5 years.Everything he does is to improve himself for Cavan football-Not Cavan Gaels,not DCU.3 years ago he was a run of the mill forward at Inter County level.Loads of potential but too small and light among other faults.He has now turned himself into one of the most dangerous forwards in Ulster with 2 perfect feet. A few boys could take a leaf out of his book.He is a Winner-something we don't have enough of in this county.

As regards the point about the 2008 Minor team being the future of Cavan- I would have certain reservations about a few from that team already.From what I came across from a few on that team on and off the field, they would want to be got at fairly lively or they will end up the same as so many good Minors that have gone before them.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on July 15, 2009, 09:51:27 PM
Ahem, just by way of cheering Myles up a bit more I was on to one of my more reliable contacts in the County today, well when it comes to GAA matters at any rate. Regarding Jasons article in the local paper he reckons it is a possible first move behind the scenes to replace TC with one of our very own home grown heroes from Myles home club. Now there's a prospect
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on July 15, 2009, 10:43:16 PM
Quote from: anglocelt39 on July 15, 2009, 09:51:27 PM
Ahem, just by way of cheering Myles up a bit more I was on to one of my more reliable contacts in the County today, well when it comes to GAA matters at any rate. Regarding Jasons article in the local paper he reckons it is a possible first move behind the scenes to replace TC with one of our very own home grown heroes from Myles home club. Now there's a prospect

Oh great. The man who probably single handedly started all this half arsed county footballer waster era comes full circle and takes over the team. If that happens I think I will join miller and resign as a fan.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on July 15, 2009, 10:56:08 PM
If theres a Cavan man that is going to replace Tommy Carr i think it should be either Ciaran Brady or Mickey Graham.
i dont know an awful lot about Stephen King,
Is he good tactically?
Good Man management skills?
Does he have any idea about Coaching/Fitness/Style of play.
His own clubmate on here doesnt think much of him ,so i wouldnt be too optimistic.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Drung on July 15, 2009, 11:08:54 PM
Graham struggled to win a junior with the Bridge (took replays in the semi-final and final that year) and struggled to win an Intermediate with Drumalee (replay in final).
Both clubs bombed in Ulster.
He then took over an excellent minor side and they choked against Tyrone. This year, minus their best forward through injury, they threw away a lead in the dying seconds and lost.
The Drumalee win was a very good one, but until he does something at inter-county or senior level, I'll reserve judgement.
Ciaran Brady did well in Longford but, again, the standard wasn't the best.
Stephen King didn't make a great job of Belturbet and while the Leaguers are going well and won the junior, it's common knowledge that the main man there isn't King.
I don't think there is anyone in the county that can do the job any better than Carr, unfortunately.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Drung on July 15, 2009, 11:10:47 PM
No offence to Drumalee or Butlersbridge by the way.
Drumalee were excellent the year they won it and beat a very good Ballinagh team. However, Graham is no messiah. Both teams got across the line but the point is that it wasn't like they steamrolled their way to the title like say the Gaels or Redhills or Drung last year.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on July 15, 2009, 11:17:06 PM
Quote from: Drung on July 15, 2009, 11:10:47 PM
No offence to Drumalee or Butlersbridge by the way.
Drumalee were excellent the year they won it and beat a very good Ballinagh team. However, Graham is no messiah. Both teams got across the line but the point is that it wasn't like they steamrolled their way to the title like say the Gaels or Redhills or Drung last year.

Couldn't agree more... We seem to have gone on a roll with Mickey Graham and one would nearly think that success is guaranteed once he is given the job.
Look it there are 3 teams that win championships every year in Cavan and 3 different managers so there are going to be 3 successful club managers every year but that doesn't mean they should be in the running for county jobs etc if you follow my thinking... some one has to win and some one has to be over the teams who win
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on July 15, 2009, 11:19:16 PM
Quote from: Drung on July 15, 2009, 11:08:54 PM
Graham struggled to win a junior with the Bridge (took replays in the semi-final and final that year) and struggled to win an Intermediate with Drumalee (replay in final).
Both clubs bombed in Ulster.
He then took over an excellent minor side and they choked against Tyrone. This year, minus their best forward through injury, they threw away a lead in the dying seconds and lost.
The Drumalee win was a very good one, but until he does something at inter-county or senior level, I'll reserve judgement.
Ciaran Brady did well in Longford but, again, the standard wasn't the best.
Stephen King didn't make a great job of Belturbet and while the Leaguers are going well and won the junior, it's common knowledge that the main man there isn't King.
I don't think there is anyone in the county that can do the job any better than Carr, unfortunately.
Got to disgree with you on Graham Drung
The team which lost to Tyrone were An excellant minor side which lost to the eventual all ireland champions who were Probably the best minor team of the last 15 years.
He won an Junior with Buttlersbridge,doesnt matter how many replays or how they struggled.He still won it.
The same with the intermediate with Drumalee,
As for not doing well in Ulster, I Know Drumalee spent the whole week drinking(Boojangles will confirm this  :D) after the intermediate final replay and they were in no fit way when they played Ballymacnab
I wasnt at this years Minor game so i cant comment on that.
Graham is a terrific coach and his man management skills are top notch and he is very tactically aware. I think if theres any Cavan man that should get the job its Mickey Graham.  Personally id prefer Micko to get the job  :P
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on July 15, 2009, 11:21:52 PM
Any Killeshandra players I know, were glad to get rid of him this season. They dont rate him at all.
I know Carr is obviously not doing the job for free and prob hasn't earned his money this year but I think he needs one more year or we will always be wondering, what if, you know?
Any that has worked under Mickey has nothign but good things to say to him and in Paul McCorry he has a great sidekick. IMO definite future management team.

What is the consensus now, will TC be ousted?
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As regards the point about the 2008 Minor team being the future of Cavan- I would have certain reservations about a few from that team already.From what I came across from a few on that team on and off the field, they would want to be got at fairly lively or they will end up the same as so many good Minors that have gone before them.

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I don't really understand what you mean by that mate?
The problem, IMO, with pinning your hopes on a group from minor is that for the next, what, 3 years they will do f**k all together. Personally I would use the Junior team, to keep lads like that playing together around a few older boys.
The U21's barely trained this year and that is another area that needs to be addressed. Iv mentioned it before, but I like the idea of a local man doing the u21s and strongly communicating with TC on how players are progressing. Takes that bit of pressure of TC and lets him focus solely on the League. And lets be honest he has his hands full. A
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on July 15, 2009, 11:30:00 PM
Put it up
Is Paul McCorry a Coach/Trainer?
I know hes highly rated,But i dont know much about him.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Drung on July 15, 2009, 11:35:02 PM
Maybe I didn't make my point well enough. What I'm trying to say about Graham is that, yes, he's got a decent pedigree but he hasn't set the world alight and has been over-hyped IN MY OPINION. It shows how short of options we are that we are touting a fella who has

- scraped through a junior with a replay in semi and final
- scraped through an Intermediate with a replay in final
- done nothing at Ulster club level with either side
- stepped up to county minor level and failed to reach an Ulster final with a very, very talented team the first year, then lost in the first round the second year

The facts, then, are that Graham is coming along well and won two lesser championships from two attempts but his two years over the minors have to be seen as a complete failure, whatever way they are looked at. If he brings a team to end the Gaels' stranglehold at senior, or even reaches an Ulster minor final, that would change things.
He may be the best of the current bunch within club circles in Cavan but no other county would have him over their senior team on what he has done so far, that's for sure.

PS: On your point about the Tyrone minors being the best minor team of the last 15 years, that's simply not true and stands up to no scrutiny. They were taken to a replay in the final for a start, they didn't walk the All Ireland by any means and were reliant on a couple of outstanding individuals eg Donnelly, Coney rather than an all-round sensational team.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on July 15, 2009, 11:44:59 PM
Quote from: Drung on July 15, 2009, 11:35:02 PM
Maybe I didn't make my point well enough. What I'm trying to say about Graham is that, yes, he's got a decent pedigree but he hasn't set the world alight and has been over-hyped IN MY OPINION. It shows how short of options we are that we are touting a fella who has

- scraped through a junior with a replay in semi and final
- scraped through an Intermediate with a replay in final
- done nothing at Ulster club level with either side
- stepped up to county minor level and failed to reach an Ulster final with a very, very talented team the first year, then lost in the first round the second year

The facts, then, are that Graham is coming along well and won two lesser championships from two attempts but his two years over the minors have to be seen as a complete failure, whatever way they are looked at. If he brings a team to end the Gaels' stranglehold at senior, or even reaches an Ulster minor final, that would change things.
He may be the best of the current bunch within club circles in Cavan but no other county would have him over their senior team on what he has done so far, that's for sure.

PS: On your point about the Tyrone minors being the best minor team of the last 15 years, that's simply not true and stands up to no scrutiny. They were taken to a replay in the final for a start, they didn't walk the All Ireland by any means and were reliant on a couple of outstanding individuals eg Donnelly, Coney rather than an all-round sensational team.

That Tyrone team was a magnificant one, with terrific players throughout the team like Ronan McNab,Peter Harte,Niall McKenna,Ryan Pickering,Matthew Donnelly and Coney.It was the best minor team ive seen in a long time.

Im not saying we should appoint Mickey, i think he probably needs a couple more years at club level,Id say he will manage the Gaels within the next couple of years.
He is a future Cavan manager for me,and at this moment in my opinion is the best Candidate within the county.
I think all of us here would favour an outside man though due to the limited options within the county.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on July 15, 2009, 11:47:42 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on July 15, 2009, 11:30:00 PM
Put it up
Is Paul McCorry a Coach/Trainer?
I know hes highly rated,But i dont know much about him.

He is a bit of both BHM.
A trainer in my opinion , is someone who sets up drills and lads the lads run around and shout at them for not doing it quick enough.Nobody really learns that way. 4
McCorry is a coach, he develops players. Helps them improve, actuallly pointing out how things can be improved etc. Couldnt say enough good things about him.

Our club had him in for a couple of sessions two or so years ago and the lads sung his praises.

Drung I really disagree with you about Graham. At the start of his first year, everybody wrote that minor team off. There were no Eugene Keatings, Conor Smiths or Martin Dunne. But what MG did was build a genuine team. Where 15 lads worked for one another. That team had a game plan, a system for kicouts. naivety probably did cost them a spot in an Ulster final but at least they went down fighting. Any lad that was involved in the game against Tyrone will have learned more from that experience than 100 sessions.

You say he scraped through replays? Well to me that say's he instilled belief and bottle in his teams to come back and do it the second day.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on July 15, 2009, 11:49:51 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on July 15, 2009, 11:44:59 PM
Quote from: Drung on July 15, 2009, 11:35:02 PM
Maybe I didn't make my point well enough. What I'm trying to say about Graham is that, yes, he's got a decent pedigree but he hasn't set the world alight and has been over-hyped IN MY OPINION. It shows how short of options we are that we are touting a fella who has

- scraped through a junior with a replay in semi and final
- scraped through an Intermediate with a replay in final
- done nothing at Ulster club level with either side
- stepped up to county minor level and failed to reach an Ulster final with a very, very talented team the first year, then lost in the first round the second year

The facts, then, are that Graham is coming along well and won two lesser championships from two attempts but his two years over the minors have to be seen as a complete failure, whatever way they are looked at. If he brings a team to end the Gaels' stranglehold at senior, or even reaches an Ulster minor final, that would change things.
He may be the best of the current bunch within club circles in Cavan but no other county would have him over their senior team on what he has done so far, that's for sure.

PS: On your point about the Tyrone minors being the best minor team of the last 15 years, that's simply not true and stands up to no scrutiny. They were taken to a replay in the final for a start, they didn't walk the All Ireland by any means and were reliant on a couple of outstanding individuals eg Donnelly, Coney rather than an all-round sensational team.

That Tyrone team was a magnificant one, with terrific players throughout the team like Ronan McNab,Peter Harte,Niall McKenna,Ryan Pickering,Matthew Donnelly and Coney.It was the best minor team ive seen in a long time.

Im not saying we should appoint Mickey, i think he probably needs a couple more years at club level,Id say he will manage the Gaels within the next couple of years.
He is a future Cavan manager for me,and at this moment in my opinion is the best Candidate within the county.
I think all of us here would favour an outside man though due to the limited options within the county.

Agree entirely about Mickey BHM.

I doubt he would take the job now though. He will wait until players he has brought through are ready for the step up. He is abit young too..dont forget how friendly he would be with a lot of the players.

From the tone of the last few posts, its like you all presume Carr is going, am I right?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Drung on July 16, 2009, 12:20:47 AM
I remember the hype about the minor team put-it-up, they weren't written off, there was a lot expected of them and they played well but choked, unfortunately. They had about half a dozen of a superb Gaels minor team, the lieks of McClarey, Murray, Smith, Meehan, Maloney-Derham etc, a few of whom were on the Gaels senior team.
And this year's minor team were the best in Ulster at the Under 16 tournament in Buncrana two years ago, yet couldn't win the first round at minor.

On the Tyrone minors '08 thing, all you have done BHMan is listed a few outstanding individuals, which I agreed that Tyrone team had. If they were the best minor team in 15 years, they would have steamrolled everyone, as it was they neded a replay to beat Mayo in the final, who themselves had needed a replay to beat Kerry in the semi-final. They were extremely lucky to draw with Mayo the first day too.

Anyway, it's irrelevant, it WAS an excellent Tyrone team. Still, Cavan have had teams lose narrowly to excellent teams before. Remember in about 2002, Cavan, with a few injuries, lost by three or four points to an outstanding Derry team which won the All Ireland.
I think Tony Brady was the manager and I'm nearly sure he also brought Castlerahan from nowhere to win the Intermediate in 2001, so his achievements are more or less equal to Mickey Graham's. Yet we're not talking about him as Cavan senior boss, so my point that Graham is over-hyped is still valid.

If not Mickey Graham, then who? Morris???
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on July 16, 2009, 01:01:59 AM
While Morris won an Intermediate and Ulster Intermediate, it was always believed he wasnt very tactically astute and wasnt great at making changes when things were going wrong.
Homer would know more about him,being a Ballinagh man.

Put it up
i think Carr will go,The criticism from the fans like ourselves he could live with,But with a high profile player like Jason Reily coming out saying in the media that he wont be there next year and criticising his management abilities,i cant see him staying.

You never know though, he may be an ignorant c**t who will stay on, drop half a dozen of players including the bould jayo and build a new team,comprising of many of the players we named in our lists of regional teams.
Hed certainly win over alot of us here if he did that.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on July 16, 2009, 10:47:37 AM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on July 16, 2009, 01:01:59 AM
While Morris won an Intermediate and Ulster Intermediate, it was always believed he wasnt very tactically astute and wasnt great at making changes when things were going wrong.
Homer would know more about him,being a Ballinagh man.

Put it up
i think Carr will go,The criticism from the fans like ourselves he could live with,But with a high profile player like Jason Reily coming out saying in the media that he wont be there next year and criticising his management abilities,i cant see him staying.

You never know though, he may be an ignorant c**t who will stay on, drop half a dozen of players including the bould jayo and build a new team,comprising of many of the players we named in our lists of regional teams.
Hed certainly win over alot of us here if he did that.

Your latter point BHM is Carr's only hope I think. I said already that he more or less kept DK team's together, so this year he has a chance to build his own team. He played it too safe this year with regards to team selection in my opinion. It would actually be quite refreshing if he did that. Can I also make the point that why would he quiit when I imagine he is being paid very well to do this job!!!

Listen lads, not one credible sucessor has been named. Fair enough if Phil Smith chats to some of the players and they genuinely feel he is not up to it then he should go. By that I mean he should talk to lads like Larry, Flanagan, Hannon. Not lads that are pissed off because they didn;t get starting. But who would we bring in. Morris and King just are not good enough. The only person I would go for withing the county is Mickey Graham but I don't think the job will interest him at this time of his life.

Jayo;s outburst shows there must not be much team spirit in there at the minute too doesn't it.

For f**k sake, we coulda been preparing for an Ulster Final this week....we will never get as good a chance in the forseeable future!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on July 16, 2009, 10:58:45 AM
I see nothing to be gained by appointing a new manager now, not unless it's a real, high-profile top drawer appointment which we don't deserve to attract anyway - McHugh, Kernan etc. or someone of that stature, irrespective of what you might think of their individual attributes.

Carr has been a major disappointment for me. I hadn't even got anything near to high hopes for him in wanting only a disciplined panel, that would give their all and have some sort of cut about them and even on that quite basic criteria he has failed to deliver. Nobody is upset we're not winning Ulsters as we know it's a long road but you have to start that journey with a step forward, not a step back, and that's what Tommy seems to have done inside 10 months. It's a very sobering realisation.

For all that, I think he has to stay. Like I said at the outset, if you're not replacing him with an absolutely outstanding candidate, you're only taking a sideways step and moving the deckchairs on the Titanic so to speak, so I would give him another year to show that the reaction to his first season has stung him and he is determined to do better next year. I'd bet me left ball that neither Stephen King, Mickey Graham, Bernard Morris etc. would do any better if they replaced him.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on July 16, 2009, 11:05:46 AM
Quote from: cavanmaniac on July 16, 2009, 10:58:45 AM
I see nothing to be gained by appointing a new manager now, not unless it's a real, high-profile top drawer appointment which we don't deserve to attract anyway - McHugh, Kernan etc. or someone of that stature, irrespective of what you might think of their individual attributes.

Carr has been a major disappointment for me. I hadn't even got anything near to high hopes for him in wanting only a disciplined panel, that would give their all and have some sort of cut about them and even on that quite basic criteria he has failed to deliver. Nobody is upset we're not winning Ulsters as we know it's a long road but you have to start that journey with a step forward, not a step back, and that's what Tommy seems to have done inside 10 months. It's a very sobering realisation.

For all that, I think he has to stay. Like I said at the outset, if you're not replacing him with an absolutely outstanding candidate, you're only taking a sideways step and moving the deckchairs on the Titanic so to speak, so I would give him anoth
er year to show that the reaction to his Thfirst season has stung him and he is determined to do better next year. I'd bet me left ball that neither Stephen King, Mickey Graham, Bernard Morris etc. would do any better if they replaced him.

Il put both my balls in the line ;D
I think it is important both he and the players he picks get a chance to react.
I think the panel will get a really good shake up next year. Lets be honest Carr came in knowing little or no Cavan players. Too many of those players are happy just to be on the panel. It needs freshenin up with lads that have not played much with Cavan before and are desperate to change our fortunes
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Mr. Pain on July 16, 2009, 05:13:43 PM
Refrain from the inane and insane blame game, it's just lame says the main man Mr. Pain. Chill dawgs!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on July 16, 2009, 08:44:19 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on July 15, 2009, 11:19:16 PM
The same with the intermediate with Drumalee,
As for not doing well in Ulster, I Know Drumalee spent the whole week drinking(Boojangles will confirm this  :D) after the intermediate final replay and they were in no fit way when they played Ballymacnab

Right on 1 count BH Man :D
I can confirm we spent a week drinking after our Intermediate win-but we finished up Friday after the final to send our Good neighbours Killygarry down to Division 2 of the League in a relegation play-off. We played Ballymacnab the week after.We didnt do ourselves justice that day.Lost by 3 or 4 points.Don't know if we Bombed,cos I don't know what Bombed means! :P :P
As regards Paul McCorry- I couldnt say enough good words about the man and IMO he should be Coach of Cavan Seniors in the not too distant future. Top class and always learning.
Mickey Graham will in time manage Cavan I would say,but I think it is at least 5 years too soon for that to happen.
As I said before I think Ciaran Brady may be the best home manager we have in Cavan.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Rollout on July 17, 2009, 11:37:08 AM
I see Jason's outburst and cavan's standard of football in general get a dig in the Indo today, in the 'Sam says" piece. It wasn't wrong.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on July 17, 2009, 01:36:35 PM
Terry Hylands piece in the Echo today is worth a read.

On another point- Does anyone know what is the situtaion with Kingspans sponsorship of Cavan teams? Have they signed up for a few more years or is it a year by year thing? I wouldnt b suprised to see the Murtaghs having a second look at the money they are throwing to the County set-up.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Mr. Pain on July 17, 2009, 02:29:55 PM
Quote from: boojangles on July 17, 2009, 01:36:35 PM
Terry Hylands piece in the Echo today is worth a read.

On another point- Does anyone know what is the situtaion with Kingspans sponsorship of Cavan teams? Have they signed up for a few more years or is it a year by year thing? I wouldnt b suprised to see the Murtaghs having a second look at the money they are throwing to the County set-up.

Why would they Booj? They have their own man in the hot seat so they basically control the picking of the manager and lots of other decisions Mr. Pain is sure. Not a conspiracy theory by any means but if you look into it you'll find that the Pain freak is not far wrong!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on July 17, 2009, 03:04:51 PM
Their own man as in the County board Chairman Mr. Pain? Fair enough.

I wouldn't be surprised if Boojangles point is more along the lines of the actual cost of the sponsorship in a time when companies in the building and construction sector are taking a fair beating. It's not as if they are getting huge exposure for their sponsorship either. So would not be surprised if they are looking for the same exposure for less money, or a performance related sponsorship in future.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on July 17, 2009, 03:36:37 PM
Quote from: anglocelt39 on July 17, 2009, 03:04:51 PM
Their own man as in the County board Chairman Mr. Pain? Fair enough.

I wouldn't be surprised if Boojangles point is more along the lines of the actual cost of the sponsorship in a time when companies in the building and construction sector are taking a fair beating. It's not as if they are getting huge exposure for their sponsorship either. So would not be surprised if they are looking for the same exposure for less money, or a performance related sponsorship in future.

Thats what Im talking about! Just don't b suprised if you see a review of their Sponsorship deal.
As regards having their own man-Dont be so sure of that either Pain. Work and Pleasure don't mix.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Babe Ruth 47 on July 17, 2009, 04:33:08 PM
Another ridiculous thread over on the HS about bringing John Mullane up to mentor the football team. Stupid I know, but what would Cavan give to have a player with such fierce determination. Some difference watching an inspirational figure like him giving everything for the county and Walsh mopping about hiding from kickouts. Wouldnt it be great to see a Cavan team line out with a few characters in Mullane's mould.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: jimjim on July 17, 2009, 04:41:51 PM
Heard the Cul Gaa camps that are been held in Cavan this summer are €65 per child.
Firstly this is a disgrace, £30 in the Fermanagh region i believe is plenty.
And now the Coaches are voluntry (apart from Full time coaches). Can Anyone confirm this?
I dont mind the voluntry coaching but surely the price should be then brought down. Well done to all helping out tho...
Like where is all this money going...
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on July 17, 2009, 06:19:15 PM
Am I right in thinkin that Tommy Carr is gonna be Northern Sound in the next few minutes?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on July 17, 2009, 06:20:24 PM
Quote from: Babe Ruth 47 on July 17, 2009, 04:33:08 PM
Another ridiculous thread over on the HS about bringing John Mullane up to mentor the football team. Stupid I know, but what would Cavan give to have a player with such fierce determination. Some difference watching an inspirational figure like him giving everything for the county and Walsh mopping about hiding from kickouts. Wouldnt it be great to see a Cavan team line out with a few characters in Mullane's mould.


We have Mad Eddie but a mere grafter would not be worth his place with our abundance of quality>>>>>>>> ???
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on July 17, 2009, 07:03:57 PM
Did Tommy Carr say anything on Shannonside about the situation?
anyone that was listening?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on July 17, 2009, 10:45:35 PM
Just back from the U16 finals.

Gowna ran out easy winners against Denn.  They had much better forwards, got goals and we were fighting a rear guard action all the match.

The Div. 1 final was between Cavan Gaels and Kingscourt. CG ran the first half and the tackling and dispossession was a joy to watch.

Kingscourt came out and made a game of it.  The midfielder for rose magestically for a high ball and when I heard the name Joe Dillon, it all made sense.  If he is Joe Dillon's son, he leaps up the same way.  He also scored some lovely long range frees which was unlike Joe Diillon of old.  The other player to catch the eye on the Kingscout team was tthe number 6.  He was lighting fast and could travel at speed with the ball under control.

Cavan Gaels were ruthlessly effecient and all players were very good on the ball and as I said could dispossess the opposition brilliantly. 

Congratulations to all the parents and selectors, managers and kit men.  Take a bow.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on July 17, 2009, 11:57:28 PM
Quote from: RednBlack on July 17, 2009, 11:02:48 PM
Quote from: Denn Forever on July 17, 2009, 10:45:35 PM
Just back from the U16 finals.

Gowna ran out easy winners against Denn.  They had much better forwards, got goals and we were fighting a rear guard action all the match. Was expecting this Gowna team to be up in Div 1 following their stroll to Div 2 with this age group at Under 14.  That was a pretty handy Denn outfit with some good young footballers on it. Similar to Crosserlough being dropped into Div 2 for Under 12 this year something needs to be done with regard to grading of teams. Too many clubs chasing cups and whinging to the Boards to get down divisions rather than compete at a higher level. Would be better for the county as whole in the long run.

The Div. 1 final was between Cavan Gaels and Kingscourt. CG ran the first half and the tackling and dispossession was a joy to watch.

Kingscourt came out and made a game of it.  The midfielder for rose magestically for a high ball and when I heard the name Joe Dillon, it all made sense.  If he is Joe Dillon's son, he leaps up the same way.  He also scored some lovely long range frees which was unlike Joe Diillon of old.  The other player to catch the eye on the Kingscout team was tthe number 6.  He was lighting fast and could travel at speed with the ball under control.

Cavan Gaels were ruthlessly effecient and all players were very good on the ball and as I said could dispossess the opposition brilliantly. 

Congratulations to all the parents and selectors, managers and kit men.  Take a bow.

Ha I have a better one... our Under 16 team were put in Division 3 - 15 a side even though we could only manage to register 12 Under 16 players... The vast majority of the County Board (all but one) were happy to put us in the 13 a side Division 4 but one decided no - and I was told that he would put Cootehill in Division One if he thought he could get away with it.  Low and behold we were in Division 3 and proceeded to get the very loving shite kicked out of us in the games we could manage to field a team in...  I honestly thought no one could be that petty and take it out on a bunch of youngsters...
Things are never gonna improve with people like that involved in any way with any County board regardless of what level it is...
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on July 18, 2009, 09:19:46 AM
Quote from: Celt_Man on July 17, 2009, 11:57:28 PM
Quote from: RednBlack on July 17, 2009, 11:02:48 PM
Quote from: Denn Forever on July 17, 2009, 10:45:35 PM
Just back from the U16 finals.

Gowna ran out easy winners against Denn.  They had much better forwards, got goals and we were fighting a rear guard action all the match. Was expecting this Gowna team to be up in Div 1 following their stroll to Div 2 with this age group at Under 14.  That was a pretty handy Denn outfit with some good young footballers on it. Similar to Crosserlough being dropped into Div 2 for Under 12 this year something needs to be done with regard to grading of teams. Too many clubs chasing cups and whinging to the Boards to get down divisions rather than compete at a higher level. Would be better for the county as whole in the long run.

The Div. 1 final was between Cavan Gaels and Kingscourt. CG ran the first half and the tackling and dispossession was a joy to watch.

Kingscourt came out and made a game of it.  The midfielder for rose magestically for a high ball and when I heard the name Joe Dillon, it all made sense.  If he is Joe Dillon's son, he leaps up the same way.  He also scored some lovely long range frees which was unlike Joe Diillon of old.  The other player to catch the eye on the Kingscout team was tthe number 6.  He was lighting fast and could travel at speed with the ball under control.

Cavan Gaels were ruthlessly effecient and all players were very good on the ball and as I said could dispossess the opposition brilliantly. 

Congratulations to all the parents and selectors, managers and kit men.  Take a bow.

Ha I have a better one... our Under 16 team were put in Division 3 - 15 a side even though we could only manage to register 12 Under 16 players... The vast majority of the County Board (all but one) were happy to put us in the 13 a side Division 4 but one decided no - and I was told that he would put Cootehill in Division One if he thought he could get away with it.  Low and behold we were in Division 3 and proceeded to get the very loving shite kicked out of us in the games we could manage to field a team in...  I honestly thought no one could be that petty and take it out on a bunch of youngsters...
Things are never gonna improve with people like that involved in any way with any County board regardless of what level it is...

Name and shame celt man. The time for tippy toeing around these boys is over.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Mr Miyagi on July 18, 2009, 11:51:34 AM
Mr Miyagi has loved Cavan football for a long time but right now Mr Miyagi is hurting.

His beloved county, in the last 6 in the country, it is.

It needs overhaul. It needs bravery. It needs officials to think outside the box.

Mr Miyagi could talk about the state of Cavan football for hours and who he thinks should be playing but Tommy Carr would not listen to Mr Miyagi. He seems to only listen to Niall Lynch who shows blatant preferece to players from clubs near him. Niall Lynch needs to cop on and Tommy Carr needs to start looking at different players. Ones that tried before they have not.

Mr Miyagi would also like to see Tommy Carr stay in the job, and show what he is made of. After a year in Cavan, Carr must know the players and if he has a half a brain he should know the ones with the bad attitude in the squad. On Mr Miyagi's orders bad influences must go and if that means James Reilly so be it. Miyagi does be told that James likes sitting on bum bum and not working hard. Carr must find a replacement and move on - although Mr Miyagi loves when James blocks ball from goal.

However Mr Miyagi had a long chat with Danielson and we have one condition for Tommy to keep his job. He must take a 50% pay cut. Lie to ourselves we must not, Tommy gets paid a lot of money and in recessionary times and based on his performance he must offer cut.

Mr Miyagi would also appreciate seeing Carr attending club games, even if it is only a Junior match. Carr needs new players and he must find them himself. Next year the team that plays must be his team and not the one that played the last few years.

Carr must find players and not feed them - so they are hungry. The must come together as a unit, recognise where we are, and aim to change it.

Miyagi also feel that the Cavan team has no leader. A ship without a rudder it could be described as. This has to change.

If Miyagi come back from Dublin to watch Cavan play  in McKenna Cup, he wants them to take it seriously and starting building a winning mentality.

Losers for too long we have been.....
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on July 18, 2009, 12:18:34 PM
Mr. Miyagi, welcome on board. You're not related to a lad by the name of Mr. Pain by any chance?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Mr Miyagi on July 18, 2009, 12:36:35 PM
Quote from: anglocelt39 on July 18, 2009, 12:18:34 PM
Mr. Miyagi, welcome on board. You're not related to a lad by the name of Mr. Pain by any chance?

anglocelt 39, much appreciated your warm welcoming is . Miyagi thought he would not be welcomed on this board but Danielson urged him to join to voice his opinion.

Miyagi has never heard of Mr Pain.

I suppose I need to back through past posts to learn more about him. i wonder if he likes noodles as much as me?

I like his name though, perhaps  a brother from another mother he could be
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on July 18, 2009, 12:39:09 PM
Quote from: anglocelt39 on July 18, 2009, 12:18:34 PM
Mr. Miyagi, welcome on board. You're not related to a lad by the name of Mr. Pain by any chance?

Mr Pains Internet baby! :D

Welcome Mr Miyagi.

Celt Man- Is your club man not still the Minor Board Chairman?? That is a ridiculous situation although Im not suprised by it,the same thing happened our Minors a few years back,being thrown into Division 1 with only 17 players.We pleaded to be put in Div.3 or 4 but to no avail.We played 2 games,got hockeyed and the lads decided they didnt want to play anymore.

I seen that Gowna team a few times,they have some fine footballers and are well managed by Gerry Cadden,who is over Cornafean this year.They will take stopping in Division 1.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Mr Miyagi on July 18, 2009, 12:53:22 PM
Quote from: boojangles on July 18, 2009, 12:39:09 PM
Quote from: anglocelt39 on July 18, 2009, 12:18:34 PM
Mr. Miyagi, welcome on board. You're not related to a lad by the name of Mr. Pain by any chance?

Mr Pains Internet baby! :D

Welcome Mr Miyagi.

Celt Man- Is your club man not still the Minor Board Chairman?? That is a ridiculous situation although Im not suprised by it,the same thing happened our Minors a few years back,being thrown into Division 1 with only 17 players.We pleaded to be put in Div.3 or 4 but to no avail.We played 2 games,got hockeyed and the lads decided they didnt want to play anymore.

I seen that Gowna team a few times,they have some fine footballers and are well managed by Gerry Cadden,who is over Cornafean this year.They will take stopping in Division 1.


Miyagi can assure you he is no baby. Miyagi is five foot seven. I must be big baby
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Drung on July 18, 2009, 02:23:04 PM
Were Cootehill definitely in Division Three at Under 16?
I know they were in Division Four for the minors and were hammered in every game, one of which was abandoned due to a row. Time Cootehill got their act together at underage level in fairness.
Only having 12 Under 16 players is rubbish in a town of Cootehill's size and reflects badly on the older fellas in the club.
We need all our towns competing well - Ramor, Bailieboro, Kingscourt in fairness are putting in the work.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on July 18, 2009, 02:49:12 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on July 18, 2009, 09:19:46 AM

Name and shame celt man. The time for tippy toeing around these boys is over.
Quote from: RednBlack on July 18, 2009, 02:01:07 PM

Celt Man- Is your club man not still the Minor Board Chairman?? That is a ridiculous situation although Im not suprised by it,the same thing happened our Minors a few years back,being thrown into Division 1 with only 17 players.We pleaded to be put in Div.3 or 4 but to no avail.We played 2 games,got hockeyed and the lads decided they didnt want to play anymore.

I seen that Gowna team a few times,they have some fine footballers and are well managed by Gerry Cadden,who is over Cornafean this year.They will take stopping in Division 1.
Would not surprise if the same said Mr Argue was the man who wanted his own club in Div 1!!! Similar story with Bord na nOg. Not a clue when it comes to grading. We asked a simple question regarding teams and can they not keep results and tables from previous years only to be told that they don't keep them. Hard to credit what is allowed run our county at times. A massive hoover is needed to clear them out. Majority in it for the two free tickets and just move around posts every few years.
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Jaysus Miles I wouldn't like to give the ball away but a man wanted to read behind the lines he would figure it out
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on July 18, 2009, 02:59:22 PM
Its a sad state of affairs that Celt man. Sounds like Mr Argue needs to be opposed at the next agm and given the boot. Are there any young modern thinking people waiting in the wings to replace these lads or are a little cabal in there looking after themselves?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on July 18, 2009, 03:23:46 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on July 18, 2009, 02:59:22 PM
Its a sad state of affairs that Celt man. Sounds like Mr Argue needs to be opposed at the next agm and given the boot. Are there any young modern thinking people waiting in the wings to replace these lads or are a little cabal in there looking after themselves?
He'll go for the top job after this... and if he gets it - forget about it
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on July 18, 2009, 03:36:42 PM
Quote from: Drung on July 18, 2009, 02:23:04 PM
Were Cootehill definitely in Division Three at Under 16?
I know they were in Division Four for the minors and were hammered in every game, one of which was abandoned due to a row. Time Cootehill got their act together at underage level in fairness.
Only having 12 Under 16 players is rubbish in a town of Cootehill's size and reflects badly on the older fellas in the club.
We need all our towns competing well - Ramor, Bailieboro, Kingscourt in fairness are putting in the work.

Yep they definitely were.... Look it Cootehill hasn't got a big catchment area... Anyone who is familiar with the town look for a minute... about 500m out the Monaghan and Cavan roads you have one fella playing for Kill and another playing for Drumgoon, Fannin lives in the biggest estate in the Cootehill and Hannon maybe lives 600m away from our pitch out the Bailieiboro road. Then about a mile out another few roads you have boys playing for Latton and Rockcorry although in fairness they are in county Monaghan.
So we haven't got a big catchment area to begin with and the numbers have dropped in the National School considerably in the last few years. There was 35 in my sixth class around 9-10 years ago now there is about 16-18 in the same class.  The town's population actually dropped in the last census as well

Quote from: RednBlack on July 18, 2009, 02:32:47 PM
Quote from: Drung on July 18, 2009, 02:23:04 PM
Were Cootehill definitely in Division Three at Under 16?
I know they were in Division Four for the minors and were hammered in every game, one of which was abandoned due to a row. Time Cootehill got their act together at underage level in fairness.
Only having 12 Under 16 players is rubbish in a town of Cootehill's size and reflects badly on the older fellas in the club.
We need all our towns competing well - Ramor, Bailieboro, Kingscourt in fairness are putting in the work.
I think in fairness Cootheill have realised this and there is some good work going in now. Their Under 14s put up a good show in the Sevens this week and have a couple of very useful looking young lads there.

Yea in fairness we are trying to make strides in the right direction... the Under 14 Sevens was a great success - we play in Roinn D in the League so to make it to a County Final where there is no grades beating several Division One teams along the way - getting to the last 2 out of 38 teams - is a great achievement
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on July 18, 2009, 05:21:23 PM
Carr say anything intersting last night on the radio?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: the salmon of knowledge on July 18, 2009, 10:32:30 PM
just heard from the lads at training carr resigned/sacked...
dunno which but he is gone
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on July 18, 2009, 10:39:14 PM
SOK, big words!

How confident are you they are true!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on July 18, 2009, 10:59:43 PM
Quote from: put-it-up on July 18, 2009, 10:39:14 PM
SOK, big words!

How confident are you they are true!

Someone has it on Hoganstand too.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on July 18, 2009, 11:24:32 PM
Quote from: RednBlack on July 18, 2009, 11:20:23 PM
Quote from: the salmon of knowledge on July 18, 2009, 10:32:30 PM
just heard from the lads at training carr resigned/sacked...
dunno which but he is gone
NOT TRUE.

I personally dont think it is true but as someone said, the Hoganstand never lies ;D
Why do you thinks its not true RnB
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on July 18, 2009, 11:33:12 PM
Did you not know, u have to have an A1 in bullshit to get a job in the County Board!

Did it cross your mind that he is just out of the loop?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: spoggles on July 19, 2009, 12:17:37 AM
hope he stays.. he needs build a new team  around a few players lik flannagan gunner johnson mackey givney and bring in a young fit team with a desire to work hard and graft for 1 another.. d days of jayo and reret to say dis even larry are gone.. even if next year doesn go well we need build for the future and see where that gets us.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on July 19, 2009, 12:40:57 AM
Quote from: spoggles on July 19, 2009, 12:17:37 AM
hope he stays.. he needs build a new team  around a few players lik flannagan gunner johnson mackey givney and bring in a young fit team with a desire to work hard and graft for 1 another.. d days of jayo and reret to say dis even larry are gone.. even if next year doesn go well we need build for the future and see where that gets us.

From how you write, I presume you came from the Hoganstand but welcome aboard spoggles.

Another addition to our wolf-pack!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on July 19, 2009, 10:06:01 AM
Well he didnt do much for disipline this year, not a pile has changed other than the lock-ins in the Imperial seem to have stopped.  Whoever is in charge next year has to do something about drinking.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: the salmon of knowledge on July 19, 2009, 03:14:34 PM
our sectrary landed at the end of training with word that carr was gone that he heard it on northern sound, apologies if it is not so, thought he would have it right
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on July 20, 2009, 11:56:40 AM
Quote from: the salmon of knowledge on July 19, 2009, 03:14:34 PM
our sectrary landed at the end of training with word that carr was gone that he heard it on northern sound, apologies if it is not so, thought he would have it right

It probably was on Norther Sound ;D Someone sent them in a fake telegram saying Carr was gone so they ran with it ;)

Anyway I presume TC is still in the house. My suggestion would be to get someone like Bernard Morris or Ciaran Brady Jnr in as selectors with him.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on July 20, 2009, 11:59:09 AM
Drumbride beat West Cavan Gaels fairly handy last nite in the Park.4-11 to 1-6 or something like that.Very poor game.Drumbride got 3 handy goals in the first half and the game was finished as a contest after that. Don't mean to be negative but its hard to be hopeful for football in the West of the County if thats the best FOUR clubs could do. Seemed to be a few lads missing tho that should b playing.Aaron Duignan,Ollie Nolan,Enda Mc Hugh,Fergal Maguire.Probably a few more??
Michael McDonald at Midfield looked good at times,caught some great ball,still doubtful if he is mobile enough for IC level.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on July 20, 2009, 12:18:14 PM
Quote from: boojangles on July 20, 2009, 11:59:09 AM
Drumbride beat West Cavan Gaels fairly handy last nite in the Park.4-11 to 1-6 or something like that.Very poor game.Drumbride got 3 handy goals in the first half and the game was finished as a contest after that. Don't mean to be negative but its hard to be hopeful for football in the West of the County if thats the best FOUR clubs could do. Seemed to be a few lads missing tho that should b playing.Aaron Duignan,Ollie Nolan,Enda Mc Hugh,Fergal Maguire.Probably a few more??
Michael McDonald at Midfield looked good at times,caught some great ball,still doubtful if he is mobile enough for IC level.

Heard Larry got 2-3, put-it-up please ;D

Yeah personally I think it is stupid havin four clubs together and why would swanlinbar not do it. Robbie Prior, the three Cunningham's and McKiernan and Tomas Prior would add a serious amount to that team. Mixing four teams together is too much - it cant work.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on July 20, 2009, 12:20:40 PM
Quote from: put-it-up on July 20, 2009, 12:18:14 PM
Quote from: boojangles on July 20, 2009, 11:59:09 AM
Drumbride beat West Cavan Gaels fairly handy last nite in the Park.4-11 to 1-6 or something like that.Very poor game.Drumbride got 3 handy goals in the first half and the game was finished as a contest after that. Don't mean to be negative but its hard to be hopeful for football in the West of the County if thats the best FOUR clubs could do. Seemed to be a few lads missing tho that should b playing.Aaron Duignan,Ollie Nolan,Enda Mc Hugh,Fergal Maguire.Probably a few more??
Michael McDonald at Midfield looked good at times,caught some great ball,still doubtful if he is mobile enough for IC level.

Heard Larry got 2-3, put-it-up please ;D

Yeah personally I think it is stupid havin four clubs together and why would swanlinbar not do it. Robbie Prior, the three Cunningham's and McKiernan and Tomas Prior would add a serious amount to that team. Mixing four teams together is too much - it cant work.
I think you probably answered your own question there.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on July 20, 2009, 12:24:41 PM
Quote from: put-it-up on July 20, 2009, 12:18:14 PM
Quote from: boojangles on July 20, 2009, 11:59:09 AM
Drumbride beat West Cavan Gaels fairly handy last nite in the Park.4-11 to 1-6 or something like that.Very poor game.Drumbride got 3 handy goals in the first half and the game was finished as a contest after that. Don't mean to be negative but its hard to be hopeful for football in the West of the County if thats the best FOUR clubs could do. Seemed to be a few lads missing tho that should b playing.Aaron Duignan,Ollie Nolan,Enda Mc Hugh,Fergal Maguire.Probably a few more??
Michael McDonald at Midfield looked good at times,caught some great ball,still doubtful if he is mobile enough for IC level.

Heard Larry got 2-3, put-it-up please ;D

Yeah personally I think it is stupid havin four clubs together and why would swanlinbar not do it. Robbie Prior, the three Cunningham's and McKiernan and Tomas Prior would add a serious amount to that team. Mixing four teams together is too much - it cant work.

Brutal game of football, two bad teams, feck all of a crowd at it, no atmosphere or sense that it was the Senior Championship at all. As Boojangles said 3 handy goals given away by WCG after a decent enough start... I just want to forget about that match and pretend I was never there - that's how good it was
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on July 20, 2009, 12:48:58 PM
Quote from: cavan4ever on July 20, 2009, 12:20:40 PM
Quote from: put-it-up on July 20, 2009, 12:18:14 PM
Quote from: boojangles on July 20, 2009, 11:59:09 AM
Drumbride beat West Cavan Gaels fairly handy last nite in the Park.4-11 to 1-6 or something like that.Very poor game.Drumbride got 3 handy goals in the first half and the game was finished as a contest after that. Don't mean to be negative but its hard to be hopeful for football in the West of the County if thats the best FOUR clubs could do. Seemed to be a few lads missing tho that should b playing.Aaron Duignan,Ollie Nolan,Enda Mc Hugh,Fergal Maguire.Probably a few more??
Michael McDonald at Midfield looked good at times,caught some great ball,still doubtful if he is mobile enough for IC level.

Heard Larry got 2-3, put-it-up please ;D

Yeah personally I think it is stupid havin four clubs together and why would swanlinbar not do it. Robbie Prior, the three Cunningham's and McKiernan and Tomas Prior would add a serious amount to that team. Mixing four teams together is too much - it cant work.
I think you probably answered your own question there.

I am so smart I answer my own questions. ;D

nah but you know what I mean it would have made more sense to put Just swanlinbar with SG or something like that!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on July 20, 2009, 12:55:35 PM
Mite be hard to believe but Larry got 2-3 and still was anonymous for most of the game.Thank God I didnt hav to pay in! Fannins goal showed a bit of class.You can tell he played soccer! If WCG had a decent Full-back 3 of the goals could have been avoided.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: spoggles on July 20, 2009, 01:11:26 PM
from what i hear drunbride wil have no impact on the senior champioship.. john tierney is supposed to be goin well and larry will always get u scores as wil fannin but after that i cant see much fire power in the fowards. midfield is solid but immobile and the backs as a unit are quite good. i just cant see them puttin it up to a young fit team lik ramor the gaels or redhills.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on July 20, 2009, 01:18:14 PM
Quote from: spoggles on July 20, 2009, 01:11:26 PM
from what i hear drunbride wil have no impact on the senior champioship.. john tierney is supposed to be goin well and larry will always get u scores as wil fannin but after that i cant see much fire power in the fowards. midfield is solid but immobile and the backs as a unit are quite good. i just cant see them puttin it up to a young fit team lik ramor the gaels or redhills.

Well that point has been proven already,Redhills hammered Drumbride in the 1st round of the Championship.If they couldnt beat Redhills,hardly much hope of them beating the Gaels.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on July 20, 2009, 01:37:19 PM
Quote from: RednBlack on July 20, 2009, 01:31:57 PM
Quote from: boojangles on July 20, 2009, 12:55:35 PM
Mite be hard to believe but Larry got 2-3 and still was anonymous for most of the game.Thank God I didnt hav to pay in! Fannins goal showed a bit of class.You can tell he played soccer! If WCG had a decent Full-back 3 of the goals could have been avoided.
A cousin of put it ups I see. Free Posts and now free matches!!!!!! whatever next!!!  ;D

Desperate times and all that.For the record I was doing umpire last nite.And I have never payed for a Cavan Post in my life either!! Its not what ya know!! ;D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on July 20, 2009, 01:42:11 PM
booojangles you must get me into this umpiring business,,,,i could save myself a fortune and would actually get to do what my alias says  ;D

i know plenty of people that have never paid for a Cavan Post so your not the only one there!..haha

What is hilarious is the echo IS free and I still wouldnt pick it up!Unless i needed newspaper to help the new puppy settle in!!!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Swadman on July 20, 2009, 09:38:57 PM
Re: Amalgamations for senior c/ship.   Swanlinbar were asked at the begining of the year (Feb, I think) to join with the other 4 clubs but felt it would be difficult to meld the best of 5 outfits into one. There would be at least 5 selectors, you would need a convention to pick a team or make a move on the field. Games were fixed for the same week end as Junior c/ship games so it was decided that it was too risky and a distraction from the JFC. (as it turned out we lost our 2 midfielders to injury v Cavan Gaels B)
2 or 3 clubs is as much as should consider amalgamating and only after clubs and players give a full commitment to it.
I was at WCG's first game v Belturbet. You would need a seperate bus for the amount of mentors/coaches/doctors/water carriers they had with them. The team did quite well though and were only a point or two down at HT. They missed a penalty and had a back sent off then Belturbet got their game together in the last 20 mins and ran out easy winners. Hard to know how seriously lads are taking it now. Are they training together as a unit or with their own clubs who are all in the Junior C/ship? The latter I'd bet.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: the salmon of knowledge on July 20, 2009, 10:12:34 PM
Quote from: Swadman on July 20, 2009, 09:38:57 PM
Re: Amalgamations for senior c/ship.   Swanlinbar were asked at the begining of the year (Feb, I think) to join with the other 4 clubs but felt it would be difficult to meld the best of 5 outfits into one. There would be at least 5 selectors, you would need a convention to pick a team or make a move on the field. Games were fixed for the same week end as Junior c/ship games so it was decided that it was too risky and a distraction from the JFC. (as it turned out we lost our 2 midfielders to injury v Cavan Gaels B)
2 or 3 clubs is as much as should consider amalgamating and only after clubs and players give a full commitment to it.
I was at WCG's first game v Belturbet. You would need a seperate bus for the amount of mentors/coaches/doctors/water carriers they had with them. The team did quite well though and were only a point or two down at HT. They missed a penalty and had a back sent off then Belturbet got their game together in the last 20 mins and ran out easy winners. Hard to know how seriously lads are taking it now. Are they training together as a unit or with their own clubs who are all in the Junior C/ship? The latter I'd bet.


this is why mountnugent declined to join munchies and maghera
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Hollow Man on July 20, 2009, 10:28:31 PM
I like you Swadman. Informative and no bullshit (which I hate).
Well done.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Hollow Man on July 20, 2009, 11:28:37 PM
QuoteAre you 100% sure it was Pauric SOK? He has been in Austrailia for 3 Years.

Wrong again Boojangles. He is home and back playing.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on July 20, 2009, 11:50:54 PM
Quote from: Hollow Man on July 20, 2009, 11:28:37 PM
QuoteAre you 100% sure it was Pauric SOK? He has been in Austrailia for 3 Years.

Wrong again Boojangles. He is home and back playing.
I was simply asking a Question SmartAss. I stated he 'has' been in Austrailia,not 'is'.So Im not wrong-so go f**k yourself. :-*
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Hollow Man on July 20, 2009, 11:57:28 PM
I like you Boojangles, almost despite myself. Sure you're stupid and nigh on illiterate, but you're funny; it's your little ways.
The way you don't pick up sarcasm. The way you ALWAYS take the bait. The way you are totally, 100 per cent sure on your opinions, no matter what.
Good on you Boojangles! Long live Boojangles! Long live GAAboard!
UP CAVAN!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on July 21, 2009, 12:12:42 AM
Quote from: Hollow Man on July 20, 2009, 11:57:28 PM
I like you Boojangles, almost despite myself. Sure you're stupid and nigh on illiterate, but you're funny; it's your little ways.
The way you don't pick up sarcasm. The way you ALWAYS take the bait. The way you are totally, 100 per cent sure on your opinions, no matter what.Good on you Boojangles! Long live Boojangles! Long live GAAboard!
UP CAVAN!

Ignorance is bliss Hollow!! And Ignorance is something bred into me.
Stupid and Illiterate-oh now I see-your being sarcastic again!!

I like you HollowMan.Informative and no bullshit (which I hate)
Well Done

Long Live HollowMan Long Live the King
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: big balla on July 21, 2009, 12:18:13 AM
Quote from: boojangles on July 20, 2009, 11:59:09 AM
Drumbride beat West Cavan Gaels fairly handy last nite in the Park.4-11 to 1-6 or something like that.Very poor game.Drumbride got 3 handy goals in the first half and the game was finished as a contest after that. Don't mean to be negative but its hard to be hopeful for football in the West of the County if thats the best FOUR clubs could do. Seemed to be a few lads missing tho that should b playing.Aaron Duignan,Ollie Nolan,Enda Mc Hugh,Fergal Maguire.Probably a few more??
Michael McDonald at Midfield looked good at times,caught some great ball,still doubtful if he is mobile enough for IC level.
mcdonald is not up to county standard judging on saturdays performance. he caught very little that was actually contested and looked very awkward and sluggish. kicked a great point in the second half but they were up by about 15 points at the time
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: the salmon of knowledge on July 21, 2009, 01:23:15 AM
an update on that is givney is home but has one hell of a headache, and his has gone completely black from bruising.


my point is not that he plays IC, false raps really bug me, stand up to a man if your able to and box away if thats what your into
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on July 21, 2009, 01:34:04 AM
jesus sounds like Givney got a right good doing. I can take county lads being targeted - once its hard and fair. From what Iv heard if he done what he did to Givney in a nightclub, he would be done for assault....


How are everyone's clubs shaping up before championship after the five week break. Our lot played Crossmaglens second string in a challenge at the weekend. They are a feisty bunch!

We are now definetly without 4 from the team that started against Drung - all key players. Though I better point out they were all injured before that game!

Two major doubts. In total five our seven that are the spine of the team up the middle are potentially out.  :'( Hope we can scrape past Ballymachugh


Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on July 21, 2009, 10:23:13 AM
Drung arent to worried about the Championship this year, more important to stay up in league this year.  Keith Fannin beat us on his own last weekend scored 9 points so none off are backs are looking forward to marking him again friday evening especially on a bigger pitch.  Mick Mcdonald did nothing until Galligan went off after about 20 mins.  As for that game Drumgoon had no jerseys and were half an hour late in getting them and offered Drung the points but the Drung chairman said he wouldnt do that to Drumgoon.  Poor decision and 2 points could have got us out of the relagation area and 1 point from 3 games could have made sure of staying up which im sure our good friends in Ballyhaise could have organised  :P
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on July 21, 2009, 11:06:54 AM
Cavan posts thinks this is the team to get Cavan back on the road


1. Alan O'Mara
2. Joey Jordan
3. Eoin Smith
4. Darren Smith
5. Eamon Reilly
6. Mark McKeever
7. Ronan Flanagan
8. Trevor Crowe
9. Declan McKiernan
10. Paul Brady
11. Mickey Lyng
12. Eddie O'Reilly
13. Gerard Pierson
14. Ray Cullivan
15.  Seanie Johnston

Subs

James Reilly
John McCutcheon
Gavin Duffy
Rory Dunne
David Gibney
Tomas Reilly
Paddy Gumley
Dermot McCabe
Gearoid McKiernan
Ray Galligan
Niall McDermott
Packie Leddy
Barry Reilly
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on July 21, 2009, 11:43:28 AM
Quote from: cavan4ever on July 21, 2009, 11:06:54 AM
Cavan posts thinks this is the team to get Cavan back on the road


1. Alan O'Mara
2. Joey Jordan
3. Eoin Smith
4. Darren Smith
5. Eamon Reilly
6. Mark McKeever
7. Ronan Flanagan
8. Trevor Crowe
9. Declan McKiernan
10. Paul Brady
11. Mickey Lyng
12. Eddie O'Reilly
13. Gerard Pierson
14. Ray Cullivan
15.  Seanie Johnston

Subs

James Reilly
John McCutcheon
Gavin Duffy
Rory Dunne
David Gibney
Tomas Reilly
Paddy Gumley
Dermot McCabe
Gearoid McKiernan
Ray Galligan
Niall McDermott
Packie Leddy
Barry Reilly


I like some of that team and some of t I am not so mad on..Think it is silly to expect Packie Leddy and Barry Reilly to go straight into the senior set-up. I think they will struggle to get a starting spot on the U21's next year and I dont like when lads are asked to go straight from minor to senior its too a big of a step up unless in exceptional circumstance like Aidan O'Shea from Mayo.

And let's be honest Eddie's time is up at IC level. We all love his attitude but time and time again he has failed to produce the quality.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: the salmon of knowledge on July 21, 2009, 11:49:52 AM
yea read this in the post this morning, fact of the matter is this team would have serious flaws;
numbers 1 to 5 have no IC senior experience, neither has one of the midfield pairing and the other one wont play for Cavan no matter how much we write it up here or on the paper.
one of the half forward line is past it with another sure to be injured come this time 12 months.

to be honest a very naive and easy team to write on paper, which reeks of wishful thinking from the lads at the post.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on July 21, 2009, 11:54:00 AM
Quote from: the salmon of knowledge on July 21, 2009, 11:49:52 AM
yea read this in the post this morning, fact of the matter is this team would have serious flaws;
numbers 1 to 5 have no IC senior experience, neither has one of the midfield pairing and the other one wont play for Cavan no matter how much we write it up here or on the paper.
one of the half forward line is past it with another sure to be injured come this time 12 months.

to be honest a very naive and easy team to write on paper, which reeks of wishful thinking from the lads at the post.

Eamon Reilly has plenty of experience but the whole thing is lazy esp the forwards.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on July 21, 2009, 11:56:10 AM
Quote from: the salmon of knowledge on July 21, 2009, 11:49:52 AM
yea read this in the post this morning, fact of the matter is this team would have serious flaws;
numbers 1 to 5 have no IC senior experience, neither has one of the midfield pairing and the other one wont play for Cavan no matter how much we write it up here or on the paper.
one of the half forward line is past it with another sure to be injured come this time 12 months.

to be honest a very naive and easy team to write on paper, which reeks of wishful thinking from the lads at the post.

About what I've come to expect to be honest
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on July 21, 2009, 12:08:31 PM
More or less agree with you boys. With regards to the experience, a couple of rookies next year are going to be have to given a try because sure if you do want lads with experience we are just going to end up with the team we have had for the past five years you know? Are we not looking for new formulaes and to five lads a chance?????????

Darren Smith is not a corner-back so don't know how he could be put there, but I have said it before - I think he deserves a shot every bit as much as Ted at FB.

The HB line does look solid but I must admit I am still a fan of McCutcheon.

McKiernan at midfield is not big enough, if we are taking a gamble it should be on his namesake Gearoid.

Half-forward line is pretty bad. Not much imagination used there.

FF line is what it should have been all this year. Hope Gumley gets another shot next year too.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on July 21, 2009, 12:11:28 PM
Quote from: cavan4ever on July 21, 2009, 11:06:54 AM
Cavan posts thinks this is the team to get Cavan back on the road


1. Alan O'Mara-Maybe in a few years-Would really need to improve in the air,former employee of the Post,lazy opinion
2. Joey Jordan-Maybe?-hasnt been around County team in few years,never let Cavan down tho
3. Eoin Smith-jurys out-worth a try
4. Darren Smith-same as above
5. Eamon Reilly-does he want to play? Best CHB IN Club football
6. Mark McKeever-Up to himself
7. Ronan Flanagan-YES
8. Trevor Crowe-NO
9. Declan McKiernan-Not at the moment
10. Paul Brady-YES
11. Mickey Lyng-Who knows?
12. Eddie O'Reilly-NO-Headless,not a team player
13. Gerard Pierson-Up to himself
14. Ray Cullivan-YES
15.  Seanie Johnston-YES

Subs

James Reilly
John McCutcheon
Gavin Duffy
Rory Dunne
David Gibney
Tomas Reilly
Paddy Gumley
Dermot McCabe
Gearoid McKiernan
Ray Galligan
Niall McDermott
Packie Leddy
Barry Reilly


I wouldnt take anything the Post writes too seriously because TBH its only 1/2 mens opinions,who know damn all about Cavan football.Sports Editor is from Donegal FFS. From the subs named bar the few Minors coming through,we have heard it all before. I would fancy Niall McDermott to make a breakthrough shortly though.Good prospect.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on July 21, 2009, 12:17:27 PM
Did all of you people buy the paper? ;D

i think i'll just head down the shop, get the rashers in and have a quick browse....i might meet Lawrence down there! ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on July 21, 2009, 12:27:47 PM
Quote from: put-it-up on July 21, 2009, 12:17:27 PM
Did all of you people buy the paper? ;D
i think i'll just head down the shop, get the rashers in and have a quick browse....i might meet Lawrence down there! ;D ;D ;D

Did you not hear me yesterday,Put it Up,I have never bought the Cavan Post in my life.I will have my FREE copy after Lunchtime. ;D ;D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on July 21, 2009, 12:31:40 PM
Quote from: boojangles on July 21, 2009, 12:27:47 PM
Quote from: put-it-up on July 21, 2009, 12:17:27 PM
Did all of you people buy the paper? ;D
i think i'll just head down the shop, get the rashers in and have a quick browse....i might meet Lawrence down there! ;D ;D ;D

Did you not hear me yesterday,Put it Up,I have never bought the Cavan Post in my life.I will have my FREE copy after Lunchtime. ;D ;D

Boojangles you are my hero! If I was ever stuck for a bit of money could you lend me some of your confirmation money  ;D ;D ;D ;D

Not much of a perk is it, a free Cavan Post :D

Haha

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on July 21, 2009, 12:37:35 PM
Quote from: put-it-up on July 21, 2009, 12:31:40 PM
Quote from: boojangles on July 21, 2009, 12:27:47 PM
Quote from: put-it-up on July 21, 2009, 12:17:27 PM
Did all of you people buy the paper? ;D
i think i'll just head down the shop, get the rashers in and have a quick browse....i might meet Lawrence down there! ;D ;D ;D

Did you not hear me yesterday,Put it Up,I have never bought the Cavan Post in my life.I will have my FREE copy after Lunchtime. ;D ;D

Boojangles you are my hero! If I was ever stuck for a bit of money could you lend me some of your confirmation money  ;D ;D ;D ;D

Not much of a perk is it, a free Cavan Post :D

Haha



Jesus lads take it easy-Hollow Man already confessed his undying love for me last nite,now this.Il not be short on confidence for the Big game on Saturday thats for sure!!

I still havent converted my Confirmation money into Euros TBH,My Communion money is keeping me going.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Mr Miyagi on July 21, 2009, 12:47:15 PM
Miyagi too read Post and thinks some of the team is interesting.

Cavan posts thinks this is the team to get Cavan back on the road


1. Alan O'Mara - Don't know too much about him only playing with underage teams he has been. Miyagi ask fellow man at work and he said his kick-out is very good and accurate. He say he not ready to by-pass James just yet but deserve McKenna Cup game or two.
2. Joey Jordan - Seen him play alot of the years. He is good friends with my Danielson. Does exactly what he says on the tin, if not him then the team needs another Ronseal style Corner-back.
3. Eoin Smith - Miyagi like a lot!
4. Darren Smith - Miyagi also like but prefer to see number 3 on his back.
5. Eamon Reilly - From Miyagi's club. He would lead my Karate club. A real leader. Carr needs one of thems
6. Mark McKeever - Miyagi not sure over attitude. Miyagi sick of this and wants Carr to get 15 hard-working lads together
7. Ronan Flanagan - Blessed with talent
8. Trevor Crowe - His strength might even overcome Mr Miyagi himself. Football interest him does not
9. Declan McKiernan - Miyagi know little about him.
10. Paul Brady - If only he could put his attiude and effort into the water bottles and get the team to drink it.
11. Mickey Lyng - Miyagi knows how good he is but what would be the point of Danielson being good at fighting if he never fights
12. Eddie O'Reilly - no no no no no
13. Gerard Pierson - Not so sure over him. Has not done it enough
14. Ray Cullivan - Miyagi remembers Cullivan playign WF two years and wants to see him back there
15.  Seanie Johnston - Miyagi does not need to explain the reasons here
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4sam on July 21, 2009, 01:15:22 PM
Is it just me or does anyone else think that whoever came up with this team hasn't got a clue?? Its just terrible!!

Getting away from talking about the county now because thats over til next year, can we get back on to the topic of the club championships?? We are playing Gowna on Friday night in Kilnaleck and I fully expect us to be thru to the quarter finals come 10 o clock friday night. Gowna without McCabe and McKeever playing with a broken hand, we should have too much for them. Anyone going to do predictions?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on July 21, 2009, 02:34:51 PM

Friday, 24th July 2009 @ 8pm
Gowna v Castlerahan-Castlerahan
Drumgoon v Drung-Drumgoon

Saturday, 25th July 2009 @ 7pm
Cavan Gaels v Ballinagh- Gaels
Denn v Kingscourt-Kingscourt
Drumalee v Ballyhaise (Game at 5pm)
Lavey v Killeshandra -Lavey
Laragh v Kill- Kill
Ballymachugh v Bailieboro (Game at 7.30pm) Ballymachugh
Shercock v Swanlinbar (Game at 6pm) Swad
Arva v Shannon Gaels- Shannon Gaels
Butlersbridge v Templeport-Templeport

Sunday, 26th July 2009
Redhills v Belturbet (Game at 2pm)-Belturbet
Cuchulainns v Ramor-Ramor
Mullahoran v Crosserlough- Mullahoran
Killygarry v Lacken (Game at 7pm)-Lacken
Knockbride v Cootehill-Knockbride
Munterconnacht v Cavan Gaels-Gaels
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Hollow Man on July 21, 2009, 02:59:43 PM
QuoteJesus lads take it easy-Hollow Man already confessed his undying love for me last nite,now this.Il not be short on confidence for the Big game on Saturday thats for sure!!

I still havent converted my Confirmation money into Euros TBH,My Communion money is keeping me going.


Sorry boojangles this board is becoming very gay  So surprised at a manly chap like Mr Pain confessing his love, must have been having a few cans at home 

Hang on put-it-up. He said Hollow Man, you say Mr Pain.. Those are two separate hombres, hombre.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on July 21, 2009, 04:07:25 PM
1. Alan O'Mara-in a few years
2. Joey Jordan-No hes barely played any club football in 3 years
3. Eoin Smith-Yes
4. Darren Smith-deserves a chance at full back in the McKenna Cup
5. Eamon Reilly-Yes
6. Mark McKeever-No,he doesnt seem to have any interest in staying off the drink.
7. Ronan Flanagan-Yes
8. Trevor Crowe-No he has no interest
9. Declan McKiernan-YES,BUT NOT AT MIDFIELD.
10. Paul Brady-Yes
11. Mickey Lyng-Yes
12. Eddie O'Reilly-Yes
13. Gerard Pierson -Yes
14. Ray Cullivan-Yes
15.  Seanie Johnston-Yes

Subs

James Reilly-Yes if hes interested
John McCutcheon-Yes
Gavin Duffy-Yes
Rory Dunne-No
David Gibney-Yes
Tomas Reilly-Yes
Paddy Gumley-Yes
Dermot McCabe-No,not if hes not going to put in the commitment and train and attend key challenge games.
Gearoid McKiernan-Yes,would love to see him start at midfield
Ray Galligan-yes
Niall McDermott-give him another year to bulk up at under 21
Packie Leddy-too young
Barry Reilly-Too young

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on July 21, 2009, 04:25:44 PM
Does Barry Watters not have anytthing to offer or is he badly injured (which doesn't seem to have hindered Lyng).
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on July 21, 2009, 04:30:13 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on July 21, 2009, 04:07:25 PM
1. Alan O'Mara-in a few years
2. Joey Jordan-No hes barely played any club football in 3 years
3. Eoin Smith-Yes
4. Darren Smith-deserves a chance at full back in the McKenna Cup
5. Eamon Reilly-Yes
6. Mark McKeever-No,he doesnt seem to have any interest in staying off the drink.
7. Ronan Flanagan-Yes
8. Trevor Crowe-No he has no interest
9. Declan McKiernan-YES,BUT NOT AT MIDFIELD.
10. Paul Brady-Yes
11. Mickey Lyng-Yes
12. Eddie O'Reilly-Yes-
13. Gerard Pierson -Yes
14. Ray Cullivan-Yes
15.  Seanie Johnston-Yes

Subs

James Reilly-Yes if hes interested
John McCutcheon-Yes
Gavin Duffy-Yes
Rory Dunne-No
David Gibney-Yes
Tomas Reilly-Yes
Paddy Gumley-Yes
Dermot McCabe-No,not if hes not going to put in the commitment and train and attend key challenge games.
Gearoid McKiernan-Yes,would love to see him start at midfield
Ray Galligan-yes
Niall McDermott-give him another year to bulk up at under 21
Packie Leddy-too young
Barry Reilly-Too young



Niall McDermott is much stronger than Gearoid McKiernan physically. McKiernan would be crucified at IC Level,let alone in Midfield. At least 2 years before this lad will be ready.
Dunno how you feel after being on Cavan panels since he was 19 that Eddie Reilly is ever gonna make it now.Not a team player,no future in him.Had his chances-Adios
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on July 21, 2009, 04:32:43 PM
Quote from: Hollow Man on July 21, 2009, 02:59:43 PM
QuoteJesus lads take it easy-Hollow Man already confessed his undying love for me last nite,now this.Il not be short on confidence for the Big game on Saturday thats for sure!!

I still havent converted my Confirmation money into Euros TBH,My Communion money is keeping me going.


Sorry boojangles this board is becoming very gay  So surprised at a manly chap like Mr Pain confessing his love, must have been having a few cans at home 

Hang on put-it-up. He said Hollow Man, you say Mr Pain.. Those are two separate hombres, hombre.

My apologies chaps, you are different people! Brothers from different mothers perhaps?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on July 21, 2009, 04:43:20 PM
Quote from: boojangles on July 21, 2009, 04:30:13 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on July 21, 2009, 04:07:25 PM
1. Alan O'Mara-in a few years
2. Joey Jordan-No hes barely played any club football in 3 years
3. Eoin Smith-Yes
4. Darren Smith-deserves a chance at full back in the McKenna Cup
5. Eamon Reilly-Yes
6. Mark McKeever-No,he doesnt seem to have any interest in staying off the drink.
7. Ronan Flanagan-Yes
8. Trevor Crowe-No he has no interest
9. Declan McKiernan-YES,BUT NOT AT MIDFIELD.
10. Paul Brady-Yes
11. Mickey Lyng-Yes
12. Eddie O'Reilly-Yes-
13. Gerard Pierson -Yes
14. Ray Cullivan-Yes
15.  Seanie Johnston-Yes

Subs

James Reilly-Yes if hes interested
John McCutcheon-Yes
Gavin Duffy-Yes
Rory Dunne-No
David Gibney-Yes
Tomas Reilly-Yes
Paddy Gumley-Yes
Dermot McCabe-No,not if hes not going to put in the commitment and train and attend key challenge games.
Gearoid McKiernan-Yes,would love to see him start at midfield
Ray Galligan-yes
Niall McDermott-give him another year to bulk up at under 21
Packie Leddy-too young
Barry Reilly-Too young



Niall McDermott is much stronger than Gearoid McKiernan physically. McKiernan would be crucified at IC Level,let alone in Midfield. At least 2 years before this lad will be ready.
Dunno how you feel after being on Cavan panels since he was 19 that Eddie Reilly is ever gonna make it now.Not a team player,no future in him.Had his chances-Adios

McDermott Upper-body wise would be a lot stronger than McKiernan. DCU have those loads working out regularly. I would hope that the fact McKiernan is on crutches with his knee that he would be using this time to strengthen himself up. I rate him so highly.

Lads Eddie is just not up to it. I know he works hard but for god sake, how many chances has he had...I thought we want a new era
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on July 21, 2009, 04:51:45 PM
Quote from: boojangles on July 21, 2009, 04:30:13 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on July 21, 2009, 04:07:25 PM
1. Alan O'Mara-in a few years
2. Joey Jordan-No hes barely played any club football in 3 years
3. Eoin Smith-Yes
4. Darren Smith-deserves a chance at full back in the McKenna Cup
5. Eamon Reilly-Yes
6. Mark McKeever-No,he doesnt seem to have any interest in staying off the drink.
7. Ronan Flanagan-Yes
8. Trevor Crowe-No he has no interest
9. Declan McKiernan-YES,BUT NOT AT MIDFIELD.
10. Paul Brady-Yes
11. Mickey Lyng-Yes
12. Eddie O'Reilly-Yes-
13. Gerard Pierson -Yes
14. Ray Cullivan-Yes
15.  Seanie Johnston-Yes

Subs

James Reilly-Yes if hes interested
John McCutcheon-Yes
Gavin Duffy-Yes
Rory Dunne-No
David Gibney-Yes
Tomas Reilly-Yes
Paddy Gumley-Yes
Dermot McCabe-No,not if hes not going to put in the commitment and train and attend key challenge games.
Gearoid McKiernan-Yes,would love to see him start at midfield
Ray Galligan-yes
Niall McDermott-give him another year to bulk up at under 21
Packie Leddy-too young
Barry Reilly-Too young



Niall McDermott is much stronger than Gearoid McKiernan physically. McKiernan would be crucified at IC Level,let alone in Midfield. At least 2 years before this lad will be ready.
Dunno how you feel after being on Cavan panels since he was 19 that Eddie Reilly is ever gonna make it now.Not a team player,no future in him.Had his chances-Adios
You're probably right, about McKiernan and Eddie,
Options at midfield are severely limited,
what do you think about trying Sean Reily of the Gaels at midfield?
hes limited enough,but very awkward to play against?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on July 21, 2009, 05:02:49 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on July 21, 2009, 04:51:45 PM
Quote from: boojangles on July 21, 2009, 04:30:13 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on July 21, 2009, 04:07:25 PM
1. Alan O'Mara-in a few years
2. Joey Jordan-No hes barely played any club football in 3 years
3. Eoin Smith-Yes
4. Darren Smith-deserves a chance at full back in the McKenna Cup
5. Eamon Reilly-Yes
6. Mark McKeever-No,he doesnt seem to have any interest in staying off the drink.
7. Ronan Flanagan-Yes
8. Trevor Crowe-No he has no interest
9. Declan McKiernan-YES,BUT NOT AT MIDFIELD.
10. Paul Brady-Yes
11. Mickey Lyng-Yes
12. Eddie O'Reilly-Yes-
13. Gerard Pierson -Yes
14. Ray Cullivan-Yes
15.  Seanie Johnston-Yes

Subs

James Reilly-Yes if hes interested
John McCutcheon-Yes
Gavin Duffy-Yes
Rory Dunne-No
David Gibney-Yes
Tomas Reilly-Yes
Paddy Gumley-Yes
Dermot McCabe-No,not if hes not going to put in the commitment and train and attend key challenge games.
Gearoid McKiernan-Yes,would love to see him start at midfield
Ray Galligan-yes
Niall McDermott-give him another year to bulk up at under 21
Packie Leddy-too young
Barry Reilly-Too young



Niall McDermott is much stronger than Gearoid McKiernan physically. McKiernan would be crucified at IC Level,let alone in Midfield. At least 2 years before this lad will be ready.
Dunno how you feel after being on Cavan panels since he was 19 that Eddie Reilly is ever gonna make it now.Not a team player,no future in him.Had his chances-Adios
You're probably right, about McKiernan and Eddie,
Options at midfield are severely limited,
what do you think about trying Sean Reily of the Gaels at midfield?
hes limited enough,but very awkward to play against?

Yep definitely worth a try.Heard he made a show of Rory Dunne a few weeks ago.Altho he is prone to alot of indiscipline.We hav tried worse for Cavan.Any Gaels man I talk to reckon he is far better at Midfield than Walsh.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on July 21, 2009, 05:07:38 PM
Quote from: Denn Forever on July 21, 2009, 04:25:44 PM
Does Barry Watters not have anytthing to offer or is he badly injured (which doesn't seem to have hindered Lyng).

Has a bad injury.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on July 21, 2009, 05:20:34 PM
we
have lots of good footballers who are small

Barry Watters
Cian Mackey
Ronan Flanagan
Martin Reily
Michael Lyng

Unfortunately you cant afford so many on an IC team,so some of those lads are going to find it hard to get on the team,thats if Carr decides hes going to introduce some size into the team.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on July 21, 2009, 05:35:11 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on July 21, 2009, 05:20:34 PM
we
have lots of good footballers who are small

Barry Watters
Cian Mackey
Ronan Flanagan
Martin Reily
Michael Lyng

Unfortunately you cant afford so many on an IC team,so some of those lads are going to find it hard to get on the team,thats if Carr decides hes going to introduce some size into the team.

Good point, it is important to strike the right balance though. No point having 15 lads the size of Nicholas Walsh who can't play football you know. Flanagan will be fine as will Mackey, the others places are definetly in jeopardy.

Watters, the poor fella, has shocking luck with injuries. If he got fit and hit form he would be outstanding at WB or WF. Such a clever player.

Which reminds me, that team in the Post said it was focusing on strength and power or something, but it wasn't exactly the most physically imposing team was it!!!

Midfield, FB, and CF are the four key positions we need to start looking for alternatives. Be even better if we found big lads, who could play ball.

CF for me is a big big problem
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on July 21, 2009, 05:40:00 PM
I like some of that team and some of t I am not so mad on..Think it is silly to expect Packie Leddy and Barry Reilly to go straight into the senior set-up. I think they will struggle to get a starting spot on the U21's next year and I dont like when lads are asked to go straight from minor to senior its too a big of a step up unless in exceptional circumstance like Aidan O'Shea from Mayo.

And let's be honest Eddie's time is up at IC level. We all love his attitude but time and time again he has failed to produce the quality. 



Put it Up, any comment on proposed change between the sticks? ;)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on July 21, 2009, 05:41:59 PM
Centre Forward is a big problem i agree.

Lyng with injuries and a loss of form hasnt progressed as far as we would like.
McKeever/Flanagan both played there in recent years and never set the world alight.
Rays best position is  a wing half forward as a 3rd option for Kickouts.

Maybe some of the new lads who will be brought in,will be able to fill the position.

Wouldnt be a bit of harm to take a leaf out of what Derry done with Paddy Bradley and bring Jelly out the field to centre forward at times if hes being double and treble teamed in the corner.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on July 21, 2009, 05:45:42 PM
Quote from: anglocelt39 on July 21, 2009, 05:40:00 PM
I like some of that team and some of t I am not so mad on..Think it is silly to expect Packie Leddy and Barry Reilly to go straight into the senior set-up. I think they will struggle to get a starting spot on the U21's next year and I dont like when lads are asked to go straight from minor to senior its too a big of a step up unless in exceptional circumstance like Aidan O'Shea from Mayo.

And let's be honest Eddie's time is up at IC level. We all love his attitude but time and time again he has failed to produce the quality. 



Put it Up, any comment on proposed change between the sticks? ;)

you post  wasnt directed towards me AC ,But Goalkeeper is one position i believe we have plenty of cover for.
Eoin Elliot(Cavan Gaels)
Colm Anderson(Cuchullains)
Shane Sheridan(Lacken)
Charlie Clerkin(Castlerahan)
Fintan Reily(Redhills)


None are as good as Miller on his "day",but anyone of them 5 would be solid and dependable.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on July 21, 2009, 06:29:24 PM
Quote from: anglocelt39 on July 21, 2009, 05:40:00 PM
I like some of that team and some of t I am not so mad on..Think it is silly to expect Packie Leddy and Barry Reilly to go straight into the senior set-up. I think they will struggle to get a starting spot on the U21's next year and I dont like when lads are asked to go straight from minor to senior its too a big of a step up unless in exceptional circumstance like Aidan O'Shea from Mayo.

And let's be honest Eddie's time is up at IC level. We all love his attitude but time and time again he has failed to produce the quality. 



Put it Up, any comment on proposed change between the sticks? ;)

Wouldn't agree with it to be honest?

Do you know the name of the Drumlane keeper? He is quite good.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on July 21, 2009, 06:51:25 PM
Darren Murphy?? I tink is Drumlanes keeper these days.Altho Danny Kelly is also a keeper for them,he would have been around the Senior panel when he was Under 21.Both are good keepers.
Full-Back is a massive problem and until its fixed,above any other position, we are going nowhere.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4sam on July 21, 2009, 07:13:03 PM
Charlie is a good shot stopper alright but out of those you mentioned he is the last I would go for, your heart is always in your mouth when he is coming for a high ball. He is actually only the second best goalkeeper in Castlerahan after Brian Coleman but he wants to play outfield.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on July 21, 2009, 08:27:34 PM
What about Lacken, any decent players there? They always seem to have a big team but is there any county standard in the squad?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4sam on July 21, 2009, 08:37:57 PM
Raymond Galligan is definitley county standard if he is interested.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on July 21, 2009, 08:40:11 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on July 21, 2009, 08:27:34 PM
What about Lacken, any decent players there? They always seem to have a big team but is there any county standard in the squad?

Crowd of wasters myles.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on July 21, 2009, 08:55:26 PM
Quote from: cavan4ever on July 21, 2009, 08:40:11 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on July 21, 2009, 08:27:34 PM
What about Lacken, any decent players there? They always seem to have a big team but is there any county standard in the squad?

Crowd of wasters myles.

My "wasters" post was a good few days ago, have you spent all that time thinking up that retort. If you have I would have expected something much better and wittier.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on July 21, 2009, 09:10:54 PM
Quote from: cavan4sam on July 21, 2009, 08:37:57 PM
Raymond Galligan is definitley county standard if he is interested.

Lacken played and beat Aughnasheelan in a challenge on Sunday. A lad I know marked Raymond Galligan and said he was very good. Is he not interested in IC football?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4sam on July 21, 2009, 09:15:30 PM
Galligan destroyed Barry Cusack for us a weeks back and has a result Barry is struggling for his place.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on July 21, 2009, 09:29:19 PM
Quote from: cavan4ever on July 15, 2009, 12:53:27 PM
QuoteIs there a sliding scale of how much a waster you can be versus time on the panel?

I just think someone who has been playing for cavan over 10 years deserves a bit more respect. 

Is Jason, Dermot, Peter and Larry Wasters?   

Id guess you would say they are.


I was waitng on your reply to my question myles.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Hollow Man on July 21, 2009, 09:40:21 PM
QuoteShane Sheridan(Lacken)
Charlie Clerkin(Castlerahan)

Sheridan hasn't played for Lacken at all this year, he is playing for a club somewhere in the west.
Clerkin is the second best goalkeeper in his own club.

Come on BallyhaiseMan, you're better than this.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on July 21, 2009, 09:41:19 PM
I don't know would I call them wasters, but...

Red n Black posted here that Jason was falling around Belturbet drunk in the week leading up to a match. Not acceptable. Red n  black is a well informed poster so I have no reason to doubt it.
Larry put a heap of weight on when he should have been at his prime in his late 20's - not acceptable. County players need to keep themselves in shape when they are not training.
Peter by all accounts was a pro but he isn't playing anymore so why is he on the list?
Dermot has been a great servant and a lad I went to school with but missing matches when it suits him this year put a big black mark against him. If he wasn't in it 100% this year he shouldn't have made himself available

My point to you is that living on a past earned reputation gets us no where. You're only as good as your last game and no more. I don't care if a lad is 10 yrs or 10 months playing, they should get the same treatment.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on July 21, 2009, 09:56:45 PM
Quote from: Hollow Man on July 21, 2009, 09:40:21 PM
QuoteShane Sheridan(Lacken)
Charlie Clerkin(Castlerahan)

Sheridan hasn't played for Lacken at all this year, he is playing for a club somewhere in the west.
Clerkin is the second best goalkeeper in his own club.

Come on BallyhaiseMan, you're better than this.

i can name more yes
James Carolan(Lavey)
Patrick Galligan(Killygarry)
David Clegg(Cootehill)

Do you have any other names to add HollowMan?
You seem more interested in pointing out whats wrong with what other board users posts,than actually naming alternatives or getting involved in the discussion.
When i asked a few questions about your own club about a week ago, You were nowhere to be seen.
Leave the football talk to adults,Theres a good girl   :-*
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on July 21, 2009, 11:08:55 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on July 21, 2009, 09:56:45 PM
Quote from: Hollow Man on July 21, 2009, 09:40:21 PM
QuoteShane Sheridan(Lacken)
Charlie Clerkin(Castlerahan)

Sheridan hasn't played for Lacken at all this year, he is playing for a club somewhere in the west.
Clerkin is the second best goalkeeper in his own club.

Come on BallyhaiseMan, you're better than this.


i can name more yes
James Carolan(Lavey)
Patrick Galligan(Killygarry)
David Clegg(Cootehill)

Do you have any other names to add HollowMan?
You seem more interested in pointing out whats wrong with what other board users posts,than actually naming alternatives or getting involved in the discussion.
When i asked a few questions about your own club about a week ago, You were nowhere to be seen.
Leave the football talk to adults,Theres a good girl   :-*

Ballyhaise Man, lock your doors! I think HM will be trying to hunt you down tonight!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on July 21, 2009, 11:35:05 PM
Quote from: put-it-up on July 21, 2009, 11:08:55 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on July 21, 2009, 09:56:45 PM
Quote from: Hollow Man on July 21, 2009, 09:40:21 PM
QuoteShane Sheridan(Lacken)
Charlie Clerkin(Castlerahan)

Sheridan hasn't played for Lacken at all this year, he is playing for a club somewhere in the west.
Clerkin is the second best goalkeeper in his own club.

Come on BallyhaiseMan, you're better than this.


i can name more yes
James Carolan(Lavey)
Patrick Galligan(Killygarry)
David Clegg(Cootehill)

Do you have any other names to add HollowMan?
You seem more interested in pointing out whats wrong with what other board users posts,than actually naming alternatives or getting involved in the discussion.
When i asked a few questions about your own club about a week ago, You were nowhere to be seen.
Leave the football talk to adults,Theres a good girl   :-*

Ballyhaise Man, lock your doors! I think HM will be trying to hunt you down tonight!

Thats a threat Id take serious BH Man,I dont think Lawrence of Knockbride has been seen since Hollows- 'Your not Big and your not Smart' warning!! Or maybe he has been reincarnated as Spoggles or Mr Miyagi ??
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on July 21, 2009, 11:49:05 PM
Unfortunately I do not think Lawrence has been reincarnated, and I am worried for his safety! I didn't see him in the shop today flicking through the papers, which is a worry.

Maybe there is just a big lock-in in Canningstown though and he is fine - we will find out!


Went onto the HS for the first time in a while and saw some young buck has already set up a thread with regards to next year's minor team.....Some things never change!

Any word on Graham's future?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on July 21, 2009, 11:52:24 PM
Quote from: boojangles on July 21, 2009, 11:35:05 PM
Quote from: put-it-up on July 21, 2009, 11:08:55 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on July 21, 2009, 09:56:45 PM
Quote from: Hollow Man on July 21, 2009, 09:40:21 PM
QuoteShane Sheridan(Lacken)
Charlie Clerkin(Castlerahan)

Sheridan hasn't played for Lacken at all this year, he is playing for a club somewhere in the west.
Clerkin is the second best goalkeeper in his own club.

Come on BallyhaiseMan, you're better than this.


i can name more yes
James Carolan(Lavey)
Patrick Galligan(Killygarry)
David Clegg(Cootehill)

Do you have any other names to add HollowMan?
You seem more interested in pointing out whats wrong with what other board users posts,than actually naming alternatives or getting involved in the discussion.
When i asked a few questions about your own club about a week ago, You were nowhere to be seen.
Leave the football talk to adults,Theres a good girl   :-*

Ballyhaise Man, lock your doors! I think HM will be trying to hunt you down tonight!

Thats a threat Id take serious BH Man,I dont think Lawrence of Knockbride has been seen since Hollows- 'Your not Big and your not Smart' warning!! Or maybe he has been reincarnated as Spoggles or Mr Miyagi ??
Everyone knows a Ramor Man cant fight anyway,Nothing to be worried about  ;)  :D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on July 21, 2009, 11:53:28 PM
Quote from: put-it-up on July 21, 2009, 11:49:05 PM
Unfortunately I do not think Lawrence has been reincarnated, and I am worried for his safety! I didn't see him in the shop today flicking through the papers, which is a worry.

Maybe there is just a big lock-in in Canningstown though and he is fine - we will find out!


Went onto the HS for the first time in a while and saw some young buck has already set up a thread with regards to next year's minor team.....Some things never change!

Any word on Graham's future?


i would say he will wait until Ballyhaise's championship has ended before deciding what he wants to do.
He might fancy a go at The Gaels job next year, you never know.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on July 21, 2009, 11:57:36 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on July 21, 2009, 11:53:28 PM
Quote from: put-it-up on July 21, 2009, 11:49:05 PM
Unfortunately I do not think Lawrence has been reincarnated, and I am worried for his safety! I didn't see him in the shop today flicking through the papers, which is a worry.

Maybe there is just a big lock-in in Canningstown though and he is fine - we will find out!


Went onto the HS for the first time in a while and saw some young buck has already set up a thread with regards to next year's minor team.....Some things never change!

Any word on Graham's future?


i would say he will wait until Ballyhaise's championship has ended before deciding what he wants to do.
He might fancy a go at The Gaels job next year, you never know.

Keep forgettin he is over Ballyhaise! What do the lads from the club think of him?

I dunno if he would go in as the manager of the Gaels to be honest, at the end of the day he has been playing with the whole squad for a few years. Would be a tough situation to be in, managing your mates.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on July 22, 2009, 12:01:25 AM
Quote from: put-it-up on July 21, 2009, 11:57:36 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on July 21, 2009, 11:53:28 PM
Quote from: put-it-up on July 21, 2009, 11:49:05 PM
Unfortunately I do not think Lawrence has been reincarnated, and I am worried for his safety! I didn't see him in the shop today flicking through the papers, which is a worry.

Maybe there is just a big lock-in in Canningstown though and he is fine - we will find out!


Went onto the HS for the first time in a while and saw some young buck has already set up a thread with regards to next year's minor team.....Some things never change!

Any word on Graham's future?


i would say he will wait until Ballyhaise's championship has ended before deciding what he wants to do.
He might fancy a go at The Gaels job next year, you never know.

Keep forgettin he is over Ballyhaise! What do the lads from the club think of him?

I dunno if he would go in as the manager of the Gaels to be honest, at the end of the day he has been playing with the whole squad for a few years. Would be a tough situation to be in, managing your mates.

the Lads would swear by him,the Training is terrific,not one session the same as the next one.
You wouldnt find a Ballyhaise player out of the 40-50 we have that has a bad word to say about him.
Thats saying something aswell if you know our history of giving out about and falling out with managers. ;D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on July 22, 2009, 12:38:40 AM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on July 22, 2009, 12:01:25 AM
Quote from: put-it-up on July 21, 2009, 11:57:36 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on July 21, 2009, 11:53:28 PM
Quote from: put-it-up on July 21, 2009, 11:49:05 PM
Unfortunately I do not think Lawrence has been reincarnated, and I am worried for his safety! I didn't see him in the shop today flicking through the papers, which is a worry.

Maybe there is just a big lock-in in Canningstown though and he is fine - we will find out!


Went onto the HS for the first time in a while and saw some young buck has already set up a thread with regards to next year's minor team.....Some things never change!

Any word on Graham's future?


i would say he will wait until Ballyhaise's championship has ended before deciding what he wants to do.
He might fancy a go at The Gaels job next year, you never know.

Keep forgettin he is over Ballyhaise! What do the lads from the club think of him?

I dunno if he would go in as the manager of the Gaels to be honest, at the end of the day he has been playing with the whole squad for a few years. Would be a tough situation to be in, managing your mates.

the Lads would swear by him,the Training is terrific,not one session the same as the next one.
You wouldnt find a Ballyhaise player out of the 40-50 we have that has a bad word to say about him.
Thats saying something aswell if you know our history of giving out about and falling out with managers. ;D

I know i really do think the man is top quality and a definite future senior manager. Would also tip your crowd for championship honours this year ;)







Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on July 22, 2009, 12:41:07 AM
Quote from: put-it-up on July 22, 2009, 12:38:40 AM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on July 22, 2009, 12:01:25 AM
Quote from: put-it-up on July 21, 2009, 11:57:36 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on July 21, 2009, 11:53:28 PM
Quote from: put-it-up on July 21, 2009, 11:49:05 PM
Unfortunately I do not think Lawrence has been reincarnated, and I am worried for his safety! I didn't see him in the shop today flicking through the papers, which is a worry.

Maybe there is just a big lock-in in Canningstown though and he is fine - we will find out!


Went onto the HS for the first time in a while and saw some young buck has already set up a thread with regards to next year's minor team.....Some things never change!

Any word on Graham's future?


i would say he will wait until Ballyhaise's championship has ended before deciding what he wants to do.
He might fancy a go at The Gaels job next year, you never know.

Keep forgettin he is over Ballyhaise! What do the lads from the club think of him?

I dunno if he would go in as the manager of the Gaels to be honest, at the end of the day he has been playing with the whole squad for a few years. Would be a tough situation to be in, managing your mates.

the Lads would swear by him,the Training is terrific,not one session the same as the next one.
You wouldnt find a Ballyhaise player out of the 40-50 we have that has a bad word to say about him.
Thats saying something aswell if you know our history of giving out about and falling out with managers. ;D

I know i really do think the man is top quality and a definite future senior manager. Would also tip your crowd for championship honours this year ;)









no comment until after saturday put it up  ;)
Boojangles would just love some bulletin board material!!! for extra motivation.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on July 22, 2009, 12:44:00 AM
No, I suppose you better say nathin!

It is such a load of shit, every club played their first round like 5 weeks ago. It feels as if we are almost starting again doesn't it?.

Can't  believe were missing Rooney, Sharkey and Bird this weekend. Going to be a big test in a must win game.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on July 22, 2009, 12:59:13 AM
Yeh,
all the good weather we had earlier in the summer,
And we are going in to play championship in august/september.
We would be much better starting our Championship in early May.

say 4 team group
Game 1- First week of may
Game 2- Week after Cavans first round game.
Game 3- Early-Mid June
play-offs if needed at end of June

Quarter Finals-Mid July
Semi Finals-Early August

Final-End of August.

even if there were say a 2 week break between game 2/3 for holidays.
The Championship would be over a month before what it will be now.

Imagine what it would have been like if Cavan had beaten Antrim,
They would be playing the qualifier this weekend,
and it would have been Friday/Saturday/Sunday Two weeks before we would have been playing our second game, the weekend of the 8th August,
Then the County Board would have been under pressure to get games played off,
and we would have probably ended up playing
Group Game 2
GroupGame 3
Quarter Finals in 3 consecutive weeks.
The County Board couldnt organise a shag in a brothel.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on July 22, 2009, 11:35:49 AM
Just heard that Kingscourts Barry Reilly is in Australia having trials with a AFL team this week.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on July 22, 2009, 12:32:01 PM
Quote from: cavan4ever on July 22, 2009, 11:35:49 AM
Just heard that Kingscourts Barry Reilly is in Australia having trials with a AFL team this week.
Yea think he left last Thursday or Friday and is gone for a week so back tomorrow or next day so he won't miss the championship game for Kingscourt
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on July 22, 2009, 03:48:32 PM
Quote from: cavan4ever on July 22, 2009, 11:35:49 AM
Just heard that Kingscourts Barry Reilly is in Australia having trials with a AFL team this week.

Would b a huge loss to Cavan football.We are struggling enough for talent without this.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on July 22, 2009, 04:12:50 PM
Quote from: cavan4ever on July 22, 2009, 11:35:49 AM
Just heard that Kingscourts Barry Reilly is in Australia having trials with a AFL team this week.

I wish Barry the very best of luck and hope he makes it.
Yes he will be a tremendous loss to us as hes the best natural talent we have.
But im all for a GAA player making as much out of his sporting talents as he can.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on July 22, 2009, 04:14:43 PM
Quote from: RednBlack on July 22, 2009, 03:49:04 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on July 22, 2009, 12:01:25 AM
Quote from: put-it-up on July 21, 2009, 11:57:36 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on July 21, 2009, 11:53:28 PM
Quote from: put-it-up on July 21, 2009, 11:49:05 PM
Unfortunately I do not think Lawrence has been reincarnated, and I am worried for his safety! I didn't see him in the shop today flicking through the papers, which is a worry.

Maybe there is just a big lock-in in Canningstown though and he is fine - we will find out!


Went onto the HS for the first time in a while and saw some young buck has already set up a thread with regards to next year's minor team.....Some things never change!

Any word on Graham's future?


i would say he will wait until Ballyhaise's championship has ended before deciding what he wants to do.
He might fancy a go at The Gaels job next year, you never know.

Keep forgettin he is over Ballyhaise! What do the lads from the club think of him?

I dunno if he would go in as the manager of the Gaels to be honest, at the end of the day he has been playing with the whole squad for a few years. Would be a tough situation to be in, managing your mates.

the Lads would swear by him,the Training is terrific,not one session the same as the next one.
You wouldnt find a Ballyhaise player out of the 40-50 we have that has a bad word to say about him.
Thats saying something aswell if you know our history of giving out about and falling out with managers. ;D

heard ye had a massive turnout for training in our place last Sunday morning.....says a lot about Mickey.....have good time for him.....now between you and Boojangles.......who gets the home dressing room in Crubany this weekend!!!!! will put a Cavan Post in each room for ye to read  ;D

Leave the free one  in the Drumalee dressing room,
Boojangles obviously doesnt like to pay,
I have no problems paying for it,  ;)  :D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on July 22, 2009, 04:25:15 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on July 22, 2009, 04:12:50 PM
Quote from: cavan4ever on July 22, 2009, 11:35:49 AM
Just heard that Kingscourts Barry Reilly is in Australia having trials with a AFL team this week.

I wish Barry the very best of luck and hope he makes it.
Yes he will be a tremendous loss to us as hes the best natural talent we have.
But im all for a GAA player making as much out of his sporting talents as he can.


As am I... I don't get this whole "the AFL are robbing us of the next generation vibe" that is doing the rounds at various levels in the GAA - the whole thing is very selective really.  Far more gaelic players are being lost to soccer and rugby (not to mention just dropping out coz of lack of interest or due to interest in other things but that's a separate matter)
For example we have a young fella about 20 or so... very good footballer but he is the European Pool Champion so he doesn't have the time for Gaelic anymore while he is a loss, the best of luck to him and there are no complaints about it from anyone in the club. But I bet ya if we were to have a young fella in Barry Reilly's situation there would be a certain bit of moaning over the AFL by a few people in the club - and I would imagine that would be the scenario in most clubs in the country
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on July 22, 2009, 04:43:09 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on July 22, 2009, 04:14:43 PM
Quote from: RednBlack on July 22, 2009, 03:49:04 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on July 22, 2009, 12:01:25 AM
Quote from: put-it-up on July 21, 2009, 11:57:36 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on July 21, 2009, 11:53:28 PM
Quote from: put-it-up on July 21, 2009, 11:49:05 PM
Unfortunately I do not think Lawrence has been reincarnated, and I am worried for his safety! I didn't see him in the shop today flicking through the papers, which is a worry.

Maybe there is just a big lock-in in Canningstown though and he is fine - we will find out!


Went onto the HS for the first time in a while and saw some young buck has already set up a thread with regards to next year's minor team.....Some things never change!

Any word on Graham's future?


i would say he will wait until Ballyhaise's championship has ended before deciding what he wants to do.
He might fancy a go at The Gaels job next year, you never know.

Keep forgettin he is over Ballyhaise! What do the lads from the club think of him?

I dunno if he would go in as the manager of the Gaels to be honest, at the end of the day he has been playing with the whole squad for a few years. Would be a tough situation to be in, managing your mates.

the Lads would swear by him,the Training is terrific,not one session the same as the next one.
You wouldnt find a Ballyhaise player out of the 40-50 we have that has a bad word to say about him.
Thats saying something aswell if you know our history of giving out about and falling out with managers. ;D

heard ye had a massive turnout for training in our place last Sunday morning.....says a lot about Mickey.....have good time for him.....now between you and Boojangles.......who gets the home dressing room in Crubany this weekend!!!!! will put a Cavan Post in each room for ye to read  ;D

Leave the free one  in the Drumalee dressing room,
Boojangles obviously doesnt like to pay,
I have no problems paying for it,  ;)  :D

I hav no problem wit Barry Reilly or any Young lad headin off and the Best of luck to them but Id b lying if I said I wouldnt b disappointed if he leaves for Oz.
Big S could sort ya out wit a free one BH Man,he wasnt writing in the paper for nothing ya know!! :P
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Hollow Man on July 22, 2009, 06:45:23 PM
Quotei can name more yes
James Carolan(Lavey)
Patrick Galligan(Killygarry)
David Clegg(Cootehill)

Do you have any other names to add HollowMan?
You seem more interested in pointing out whats wrong with what other board users posts,than actually naming alternatives or getting involved in the discussion.
When i asked a few questions about your own club about a week ago, You were nowhere to be seen.
Leave the football talk to adults,Theres a good girl  

Ballyhaise Man, you named one goalkeeper as a potential county man who hasn't played in over a year and doesn't live in this county. You named another who is the second best in his own club (the fella who is better than him was on the Cavan panel as a goalkeeper this very season). I pulled you up on it - you were talking shite again, WERE YOU NOT?

PS: Please can you stop using capital letters For no Reason in the middle of sentences. Your non-use of apostrophes and your spelling (pre-madonna was your nadir in this department) are also annoying. It's hard to take someone seriously when they lack the ability to use basic grammar which is learned in baby infants.
Anglocelt39, CeltMan and cavanmaniac, to their credit, take the time to at least write properly.

PSS: Please don't try to be funny or clever when you cannot construct a legible sentence.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Hollow Man on July 22, 2009, 06:47:38 PM
I think I will run a competition to find the most popular posters on here, with a secret ballot conducted by PM's. Nominations open tomorrow.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on July 22, 2009, 07:32:35 PM
Having seen Joe Dillon playing in that U16 game, I hope nobody from the AFL was looking.   His style of catching would be made for the AFL. 
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on July 22, 2009, 07:35:21 PM
Quote from: Hollow Man on July 22, 2009, 06:47:38 PM
I think I will run a competition to find the most popular posters on here, with a secret ballot conducted by PM's. Nominations open tomorrow.

Don't bother. Although you seem to think so, this isn't a popularity contest.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on July 22, 2009, 07:42:57 PM
Quote from: Hollow Man on July 22, 2009, 06:45:23 PM
Quotei can name more yes
James Carolan(Lavey)
Patrick Galligan(Killygarry)
David Clegg(Cootehill)

Do you have any other names to add HollowMan?
You seem more interested in pointing out whats wrong with what other board users posts,than actually naming alternatives or getting involved in the discussion.
When i asked a few questions about your own club about a week ago, You were nowhere to be seen.
Leave the football talk to adults,Theres a good girl  

Ballyhaise Man, you named one goalkeeper as a potential county man who hasn't played in over a year and doesn't live in this county. You named another who is the second best in his own club (the fella who is better than him was on the Cavan panel as a goalkeeper this very season). I pulled you up on it - you were talking shite again, WERE YOU NOT?

PS: Please can you stop using capital letters For no Reason in the middle of sentences. Your non-use of apostrophes and your spelling (pre-madonna was your nadir in this department) are also annoying. It's hard to take someone seriously when they lack the ability to use basic grammar which is learned in baby infants.
Anglocelt39, CeltMan and cavanmaniac, to their credit, take the time to at least write properly.

PSS: Please don't try to be funny or clever when you cannot construct a legible sentence.

Another Post About Football By Hollow Man,
I Dont Really Care If My Use of Capital Letters In The Middle Of Sentences(OR LACK OF COMMAS  ;D ) Annoys You.
You Are A Clown.
C wat i did der!!!  8)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on July 22, 2009, 07:44:20 PM
Quote from: Denn Forever on July 22, 2009, 07:32:35 PM
Having seen Joe Dillon playing in that U16 game, I hope nobody from the AFL was looking.   His style of catching would be made for the AFL. 
I seen him play under 14 for Kingscourt a few years ago and you could tell he was going to be a serious player even though he was only i think 12 at the time.
Is he under 16 again next year,do you know?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on July 22, 2009, 07:48:13 PM
Quote from: boojangles on July 22, 2009, 07:35:21 PM
Quote from: Hollow Man on July 22, 2009, 06:47:38 PM
I think I will run a competition to find the most popular posters on here, with a secret ballot conducted by PM's. Nominations open tomorrow.

Don't bother. Although you seem to think so, this isn't a popularity contest.

It isnt a grammer or splling competitoin either.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Rollout on July 22, 2009, 08:22:19 PM
Quote from: Hollow Man on July 22, 2009, 06:45:23 PM
Quotei can name more yes
James Carolan(Lavey)
Patrick Galligan(Killygarry)
David Clegg(Cootehill)

Do you have any other names to add HollowMan?
You seem more interested in pointing out whats wrong with what other board users posts,than actually naming alternatives or getting involved in the discussion.
When i asked a few questions about your own club about a week ago, You were nowhere to be seen.
Leave the football talk to adults,Theres a good girl  

Ballyhaise Man, you named one goalkeeper as a potential county man who hasn't played in over a year and doesn't live in this county. You named another who is the second best in his own club (the fella who is better than him was on the Cavan panel as a goalkeeper this very season). I pulled you up on it - you were talking shite again, WERE YOU NOT?

PS: Please can you stop using capital letters For no Reason in the middle of sentences. Your non-use of apostrophes and your spelling (pre-madonna was your nadir in this department) are also annoying. It's hard to take someone seriously when they lack the ability to use basic grammar which is learned in baby infants.
Anglocelt39, CeltMan and cavanmaniac, to their credit, take the time to at least write properly.

PSS: Please don't try to be funny or clever when you cannot construct a legible sentence.

I think that should be PPS. PSS would mean Post Script Script, which doesn't make sense.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on July 22, 2009, 08:32:22 PM
Quote from: Rollout on July 22, 2009, 08:22:19 PM
Quote from: Hollow Man on July 22, 2009, 06:45:23 PM
Quotei can name more yes
James Carolan(Lavey)
Patrick Galligan(Killygarry)
David Clegg(Cootehill)

Do you have any other names to add HollowMan?
You seem more interested in pointing out whats wrong with what other board users posts,than actually naming alternatives or getting involved in the discussion.
When i asked a few questions about your own club about a week ago, You were nowhere to be seen.
Leave the football talk to adults,Theres a good girl   

Ballyhaise Man, you named one goalkeeper as a potential county man who hasn't played in over a year and doesn't live in this county. You named another who is the second best in his own club (the fella who is better than him was on the Cavan panel as a goalkeeper this very season). I pulled you up on it - you were talking shite again, WERE YOU NOT?

PS: Please can you stop using capital letters For no Reason in the middle of sentences. Your non-use of apostrophes and your spelling (pre-madonna was your nadir in this department) are also annoying. It's hard to take someone seriously when they lack the ability to use basic grammar which is learned in baby infants.
Anglocelt39, CeltMan and cavanmaniac, to their credit, take the time to at least write properly.

PSS: Please don't try to be funny or clever when you cannot construct a legible sentence.

I think that should be PPS. PSS would mean Post Script Script, which doesn't make sense.
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Well lads, I was away for a week on holidays and I see a lot has been posted-too much to go over I'm afraid. I've started a new thread on the Local GAA page if any one feels up to it, apart from the obvious of course.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Hollow Man on July 22, 2009, 09:08:33 PM
You are correct Rollout. I personally have no problem with the odd typo. It's 'sentences' like this:

QuoteC wat i did der!!! 

that I dislike.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on July 22, 2009, 09:13:55 PM
Quote from: Hollow Man on July 22, 2009, 09:08:33 PM
You are correct Rollout. I personally have no problem with the odd typo. It's 'sentences' like this:

QuoteC wat i did der!!! 

that I dislike.

u r dead rite. 3 exclamat'n marks is way 2 much
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Hollow Man on July 22, 2009, 09:17:41 PM
The PM's are flooding in already. In case you aren't sure who to vote for, I will provide a brief synopsis of one 'charcter' on here per day. Firts up is our middle-aged chum from east Cavan, Mr Anglocelt39.

Anglocelt39  - Never sees a club match and by his own admission gets to one Cavan game a year. Doesn't seem to know many of the current Bailieboro players either, which makes his opinion more or less worthless. Still, he's in exile but follows it online  through Northern Sound, which is proof that he's a true supporter. Nobody could go through that if they weren't. Not a bad fella overall, despite constantly referring to Hollow Man as Hollow-skulled and the timeless classic "shiteforbrains".

Stay tuned for more, ladies!  :-*
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Hollow Man on July 22, 2009, 09:20:42 PM
PS: Rollout - you don't post here much and it's hard to know how you will fare in the upcoming "Best Poster on the Cavan Thread" competition. Can you perhaps explain your unusual sobriquet (that's nickname, BallyhaiseMan) as a way of properly introducing yourself to the board?

Regards,
Hollow Man
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on July 22, 2009, 09:38:04 PM
Hollow Man has lost it
I REPEAT: Hollow Man has lost it
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on July 22, 2009, 09:40:07 PM
Quote from: boojangles on July 22, 2009, 09:38:04 PM
Hollow Man has lost it
I REPEAT: Hollow Man has lost it

He is a clown and prob shud relaise this is a GAABOARD.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Hollow Man on July 22, 2009, 09:42:41 PM
BJ, that is three or four times you have just more or less copied something I have said by way of a retort. This is not a schoolyard.
Come on now. Get a grip.

Cavan4ever, seeing as you have taken a break from badmouthing your clubmate Ciaran Galligan from behind a pseudonym, can you please take the time to spell simple words such as 'realise' correctly. Thank you.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Hollow Man on July 22, 2009, 09:45:30 PM
I have made a deal with Boojangles and shall retire for another few months from this thread. Bye for now!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on July 22, 2009, 09:49:46 PM
Quote from: Hollow Man on July 22, 2009, 09:42:41 PM
BJ, that is three or four times you have just more or less copied something I have said by way of a retort. This is not a schoolyard.
Come on now. Get a grip.

Cavan4ever, seeing as you have taken a break from badmouthing your clubmate Ciaran Galligan from behind a pseudonym, can you please take the time to spell simple words such as 'realise' correctly. Thank you.

Says the child.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on July 22, 2009, 10:00:06 PM
Quote from: Hollow Man on July 22, 2009, 09:42:41 PM
BJ, that is three or four times you have just more or less copied something I have said by way of a retort. This is not a schoolyard.
Come on now. Get a grip.

Cavan4ever, seeing as you have taken a break from badmouthing your clubmate Ciaran Galligan from behind a pseudonym, can you please take the time to spell simple words such as 'realise' correctly. Thank you.

i will spell watever way i wan.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on July 22, 2009, 10:22:47 PM
Quote from: Hollow Man on July 22, 2009, 09:45:30 PM
I have made a deal with Boojangles and shall retire for another few months from this thread. Bye for now!

Does that mean the competition is postponed?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on July 22, 2009, 10:29:09 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on July 22, 2009, 10:22:47 PM
Quote from: Hollow Man on July 22, 2009, 09:45:30 PM
I have made a deal with Boojangles and shall retire for another few months from this thread. Bye for now!

Does that mean the competition is postponed?

Hope not i was going to vote for you myles  :)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on July 22, 2009, 10:46:42 PM
Quote from: Hollow Man on July 22, 2009, 09:42:41 PM
BJ, that is three or four times you have just more or less copied something I have said by way of a retort. This is not a schoolyard.
Come on now. Get a grip.

Cavan4ever, seeing as you have taken a break from badmouthing your clubmate Ciaran Galligan from behind a pseudonym, can you please take the time to spell simple words such as 'realise' correctly. Thank you.

Some boy to be calling anyone out for bad mouthing someone from behind a pseudonym,
Anyway C4ever has commented on Galligans football ability alot,which is what we do on here and has never once commented negatively on Galligan as a person, Hollow Man on the otherhand  called the whole Drumalee club "Knackers" a few months back.
He then proceeded to shit himself when Boojangles reacted to the post in question.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on July 22, 2009, 10:53:33 PM
Hollow Man you are proving very disappointing in your second summer on this thread. Now you showed promise last year, make no mistake, a WUM of some potential, christ I even had to take off the tracksuit top and hit you a few off the ball belts myself. But in fairness you seemed to have the ability to start a row at the drop of a hat. This year, sorry mate but the same approach dont' work. In fact if it wasn't for Boojangles taking the odd rise (which I think is out of sympathy with you) you are certainly winning the prize for being the most ignored/ridiculed attention seeker on Board.

Your deterioration in 12 months has been shocking, from a potential top class WUM to, as you currently stand, to borrow from the words of Joe Brolly QC, not even the first cousin of a WUM.

Terribly disappointing, but at least it's good to see your memory is intact. Tried to get the hump with you again this year old boy, just not worth the effort.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on July 22, 2009, 10:56:35 PM
Lets not give the loser any more time here.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: the salmon of knowledge on July 22, 2009, 11:00:55 PM
Hollowman, in your layoff maybe you can go to this site and find the answers to some of your problems, seriously, all you have done in the last month is cause rows on here...

http://socialphobic.co.uk/?tag=socially-inept
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on July 22, 2009, 11:03:01 PM
Quote from: RednBlack on July 22, 2009, 10:58:25 PM
Can we get back to football?

Heard Jelly is away to New Zealand in the next couple of weeks. That will be difficult for the Gaels with Lyng injured and Walsh struggling.
Jelly will be a serious loss as will Lyng.
Dont think Walsh is that big of a miss.
a Few Gaels lads ive spoken to dont think he should be on the Gaels team at least not at midfield anyway.
If they havent lost some of their young talent like,McClarey,Niall Smith,Niall Murray, Maloney Derham,Martin Dunne to the States or Canada for the summer and combined with Experienced lads like Cormac Nelligan,i think they will be fine.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on July 22, 2009, 11:05:44 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on July 22, 2009, 11:03:01 PM
Quote from: RednBlack on July 22, 2009, 10:58:25 PM
Can we get back to football?

Heard Jelly is away to New Zealand in the next couple of weeks. That will be difficult for the Gaels with Lyng injured and Walsh struggling.
Jelly will be a serious loss as will Lyng.
Dont think Walsh is that big of a miss.
a Few Gaels lads ive spoken to dont think he should be on the Gaels team at least not at midfield anyway.
If they havent lost some of their young talent like,McClarey,Niall Smith,Niall Murray, Maloney Derham,Martin Dunne to the States or Canada for the summer and combined with Experienced lads like Cormac Nelligan,i think they will be fine.
I'd have to agree after seeing quite a bit of the first round of champioship matches. I don't too many will trouble them unless Castlerathan had a lot in reserve against Ramor, which I don't think they did.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: the salmon of knowledge on July 22, 2009, 11:07:25 PM
championship starts tomorrow night for the weekend, we have Corlough in Breffni, will be looking for a win, anyone else? who are ye playing/ your chances?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on July 22, 2009, 11:09:04 PM
Quote from: Lawrence of Knockbride on July 22, 2009, 11:05:44 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on July 22, 2009, 11:03:01 PM
Quote from: RednBlack on July 22, 2009, 10:58:25 PM
Can we get back to football?

Heard Jelly is away to New Zealand in the next couple of weeks. That will be difficult for the Gaels with Lyng injured and Walsh struggling.
Jelly will be a serious loss as will Lyng.
Dont think Walsh is that big of a miss.
a Few Gaels lads ive spoken to dont think he should be on the Gaels team at least not at midfield anyway.
If they havent lost some of their young talent like,McClarey,Niall Smith,Niall Murray, Maloney Derham,Martin Dunne to the States or Canada for the summer and combined with Experienced lads like Cormac Nelligan,i think they will be fine.
I'd have to agree after seeing quite a bit of the first round of champioship matches. I don't too many will trouble them unless Castlerathan had a lot in reserve against Ramor, which I don't think they did.

Anyone think that Redhills could bother them now that Gumley is back?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: the salmon of knowledge on July 22, 2009, 11:09:21 PM
Quote from: Lawrence of Knockbride on July 22, 2009, 11:05:44 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on July 22, 2009, 11:03:01 PM
Quote from: RednBlack on July 22, 2009, 10:58:25 PM
Can we get back to football?

Heard Jelly is away to New Zealand in the next couple of weeks. That will be difficult for the Gaels with Lyng injured and Walsh struggling.
Jelly will be a serious loss as will Lyng.
Dont think Walsh is that big of a miss.
a Few Gaels lads ive spoken to dont think he should be on the Gaels team at least not at midfield anyway.
If they havent lost some of their young talent like,McClarey,Niall Smith,Niall Murray, Maloney Derham,Martin Dunne to the States or Canada for the summer and combined with Experienced lads like Cormac Nelligan,i think they will be fine.
I'd have to agree after seeing quite a bit of the first round of champioship matches. I don't too many will trouble them unless Castlerathan had a lot in reserve against Ramor, which I don't think they did.

god i thought the rahan were cruising, i expect big things from this year
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on July 22, 2009, 11:09:35 PM
Quote from: the salmon of knowledge on July 22, 2009, 11:07:25 PM
championship starts tomorrow night for the weekend, we have Corlough in Breffni, will be looking for a win, anyone else? who are ye playing/ your chances?

Drumalee in K'Garry Saturday at 5.

Local Derby,really its 50-50,Both teams had good wins the first day out.
We beat them in the league a few weeks back,dont know if that will have any bearing on the game,wouldnt think so.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on July 22, 2009, 11:11:47 PM
Quote from: the salmon of knowledge on July 22, 2009, 11:07:25 PM
championship starts tomorrow night for the weekend, we have Corlough in Breffni, will be looking for a win, anyone else? who are ye playing/ your chances?


Drung and Drumgoon Friday evening in Breffni also.  Drung havent enough up front to bother Drumgoon and if Fannin hits form he could run up another big score. 
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on July 22, 2009, 11:12:39 PM
Quote from: cavan4ever on July 22, 2009, 11:09:04 PM
Quote from: Lawrence of Knockbride on July 22, 2009, 11:05:44 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on July 22, 2009, 11:03:01 PM
Quote from: RednBlack on July 22, 2009, 10:58:25 PM
Can we get back to football?

Heard Jelly is away to New Zealand in the next couple of weeks. That will be difficult for the Gaels with Lyng injured and Walsh struggling.
Jelly will be a serious loss as will Lyng.
Dont think Walsh is that big of a miss.
a Few Gaels lads ive spoken to dont think he should be on the Gaels team at least not at midfield anyway.
If they havent lost some of their young talent like,McClarey,Niall Smith,Niall Murray, Maloney Derham,Martin Dunne to the States or Canada for the summer and combined with Experienced lads like Cormac Nelligan,i think they will be fine.
I'd have to agree after seeing quite a bit of the first round of champioship matches. I don't too many will trouble them unless Castlerathan had a lot in reserve against Ramor, which I don't think they did.

Anyone think that Redhills could bother them now that Gumley is back?
God i hope not  :D
i dont think Redhills would have enough in a Championship semi final or Final to compete with the Gaels.
The Gaels could stick in Eamon Reily,Crotty at corner back,etc and negate Gumleys influence.
Redhills backs would find it extremely difficult to stay with the Gaels movement and guile up front even without Jelly and maybe Lyng.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on July 22, 2009, 11:15:15 PM
Quote from: RednBlack on July 22, 2009, 11:11:17 PM
Heard our management brought back Jamie Coffey. Interesting to see if he plays against Lacken and how players react to it.

PS Good to see ye all back  ;D

You cannot be serious??
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on July 22, 2009, 11:16:24 PM
Quote from: RednBlack on July 22, 2009, 11:11:17 PM
Heard our management brought back Jamie Coffey. Interesting to see if he plays against Lacken and how players react to it.

PS Good to see ye all back  ;D

Theres a blast from the past RednBlack!!!!
He was a very good footballer on his day.
Hed make any club team better,Players just outside the Top 15-20 panel on club teams  from my experience dont have too much problems if players of top quality return late in the season and get game time on the seniors,Its normaly when lads that they dont rate are put in front of them,that the arguments start!!  ;D
Ive seen it with Ali Pickett returning in Ballyhaise and theres never been problems.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on July 22, 2009, 11:16:58 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on July 22, 2009, 11:12:39 PM
Quote from: cavan4ever on July 22, 2009, 11:09:04 PM
Quote from: Lawrence of Knockbride on July 22, 2009, 11:05:44 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on July 22, 2009, 11:03:01 PM
Quote from: RednBlack on July 22, 2009, 10:58:25 PM
Can we get back to football?

Heard Jelly is away to New Zealand in the next couple of weeks. That will be difficult for the Gaels with Lyng injured and Walsh struggling.
Jelly will be a serious loss as will Lyng.
Dont think Walsh is that big of a miss.
a Few Gaels lads ive spoken to dont think he should be on the Gaels team at least not at midfield anyway.
If they havent lost some of their young talent like,McClarey,Niall Smith,Niall Murray, Maloney Derham,Martin Dunne to the States or Canada for the summer and combined with Experienced lads like Cormac Nelligan,i think they will be fine.
I'd have to agree after seeing quite a bit of the first round of champioship matches. I don't too many will trouble them unless Castlerathan had a lot in reserve against Ramor, which I don't think they did.

Anyone think that Redhills could bother them now that Gumley is back?
God i hope not  :D
i dont think Redhills would have enough in a Championship semi final or Final to compete with the Gaels.
The Gaels could stick in Eamon Reily,Crotty at corner back,etc and negate Gumleys influence.
Redhills backs would find it extremely difficult to stay with the Gaels movement and guile up front even without Jelly and maybe Lyng.


I know if would be a nightmare  :D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on July 22, 2009, 11:17:51 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on July 22, 2009, 11:16:24 PM
Quote from: RednBlack on July 22, 2009, 11:11:17 PM
Heard our management brought back Jamie Coffey. Interesting to see if he plays against Lacken and how players react to it.

PS Good to see ye all back  ;D

Theres a blast from the past RednBlack!!!!
He was a very good footballer on his day.
Hed make any club team better,Players just outside the Top 15-20 panel on club teams  from my experience dont have too much problems if players of top quality return late in the season and get game time on the seniors,Its normaly when lads that they dont rate are put in front of them,that the arguments start!!  ;D
Ive seen it with Ali Pickett returning in Ballyhaise and theres never been problems.

How long has Coffey being away, what age is he now?

Pickett was never away to long was he?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on July 22, 2009, 11:21:27 PM
Quote from: cavan4ever on July 22, 2009, 11:17:51 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on July 22, 2009, 11:16:24 PM
Quote from: RednBlack on July 22, 2009, 11:11:17 PM
Heard our management brought back Jamie Coffey. Interesting to see if he plays against Lacken and how players react to it.

PS Good to see ye all back  ;D

Theres a blast from the past RednBlack!!!!
He was a very good footballer on his day.
Hed make any club team better,Players just outside the Top 15-20 panel on club teams  from my experience dont have too much problems if players of top quality return late in the season and get game time on the seniors,Its normaly when lads that they dont rate are put in front of them,that the arguments start!!  ;D
Ive seen it with Ali Pickett returning in Ballyhaise and theres never been problems.

How long has Coffey being away, what age is he now?

Pickett was never away to long was he?

A few different years hes only been back seriously in August and has played no games all year,but he was fit enough after a few weeks training to play for the Seniors.
Hes away at the minute on an Around the World Trip,been gone since January,so you might see it happen again this year  :D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on July 22, 2009, 11:23:09 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on July 22, 2009, 11:21:27 PM
Quote from: cavan4ever on July 22, 2009, 11:17:51 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on July 22, 2009, 11:16:24 PM
Quote from: RednBlack on July 22, 2009, 11:11:17 PM
Heard our management brought back Jamie Coffey. Interesting to see if he plays against Lacken and how players react to it.

PS Good to see ye all back  ;D

Theres a blast from the past RednBlack!!!!
He was a very good footballer on his day.
Hed make any club team better,Players just outside the Top 15-20 panel on club teams  from my experience dont have too much problems if players of top quality return late in the season and get game time on the seniors,Its normaly when lads that they dont rate are put in front of them,that the arguments start!!  ;D
Ive seen it with Ali Pickett returning in Ballyhaise and theres never been problems.

How long has Coffey being away, what age is he now?

Pickett was never away to long was he?

A few different years hes only been back seriously in August and has played no games all year,but he was fit enough after a few weeks training to play for the Seniors.
Hes away at the minute on an Around the World Trip,been gone since January,so you might see it happen again this year  :D

Well thats fair enough but the Killygarry thing seems a bit desperate to me. 
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on July 22, 2009, 11:26:32 PM
Quote from: cavan4ever on July 22, 2009, 11:23:09 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on July 22, 2009, 11:21:27 PM
Quote from: cavan4ever on July 22, 2009, 11:17:51 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on July 22, 2009, 11:16:24 PM
Quote from: RednBlack on July 22, 2009, 11:11:17 PM
Heard our management brought back Jamie Coffey. Interesting to see if he plays against Lacken and how players react to it.

PS Good to see ye all back  ;D

Theres a blast from the past RednBlack!!!!
He was a very good footballer on his day.
Hed make any club team better,Players just outside the Top 15-20 panel on club teams  from my experience dont have too much problems if players of top quality return late in the season and get game time on the seniors,Its normaly when lads that they dont rate are put in front of them,that the arguments start!!  ;D
Ive seen it with Ali Pickett returning in Ballyhaise and theres never been problems.

How long has Coffey being away, what age is he now?

Pickett was never away to long was he?

A few different years hes only been back seriously in August and has played no games all year,but he was fit enough after a few weeks training to play for the Seniors.
Hes away at the minute on an Around the World Trip,been gone since January,so you might see it happen again this year  :D

Well thats fair enough but the Killygarry thing seems a bit desperate to me. 

i wouldnt say that, Coffey was a good footballer who if hes working as a personal trainer would be in good shape.
Hed be a good man after a few weeks training even to make an impact for 10-15 minutes at the end of a game.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on July 22, 2009, 11:29:46 PM
Quote from: RednBlack on July 22, 2009, 11:28:11 PM
Just spoke with one of the lads and he said Coffey trained tonight and was flying. Like he had never been away.

Was he playing football in England?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on July 22, 2009, 11:33:37 PM
Quote from: RednBlack on July 22, 2009, 11:30:50 PM
Quote from: cavan4ever on July 22, 2009, 11:29:46 PM
Quote from: RednBlack on July 22, 2009, 11:28:11 PM
Just spoke with one of the lads and he said Coffey trained tonight and was flying. Like he had never been away.

Was he playing football in England?
i believe so

Well if he has the fitness as you reckon and has being playing a bit off ball he would definately be worth a bit of game time.  Just think its strange the way you say that he has being brought back, why would they not have brough him back last year when you got to Semi Final. 
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on July 23, 2009, 06:27:58 AM
Lads I can't believe it. I played poker for won night (the mispelling  of 'one' is intentional ;D) and i miss, probably, the bitchiest night of this board's history....gutted!

Suppose I better head to bed, before I get given out to by Hollow Man for staying up too late! ;D

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Mr. Pain on July 23, 2009, 10:02:06 AM
Po Po Po Poker Face! Apologies, one of the Paininis was listening to that GoGo song in the car this morning. Mrs. Pain had to smack that ass. You did well so Slut-It-Up? So, the club championship proper returns to our fields. Well it's about time Mr. Pain hears you yell. Crazy things have happening already - Killygarry importing coffey from England, players off to Australia and New Zealand and Hollow Man retiring from the board. It's been a hectic week. Just a matter of interest Booj - what kind of deal did you cut with Hollow Man? Sex, drugs, gates? Mr. Pain is interested. Ballyhaise to win, Lacken to win with the Crowes grounding Coffey, Bailieboro to win despite themselves, Lavey to win, Arva to win, Redhills to win. More to follow. Rant over!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: jimjim on July 23, 2009, 12:54:34 PM
Gowna v Castlerahan - Castlerahan
Drumgoon v Drung - Goonies
Cavan Gaels v Ballinagh - Gaels
Denn v Kingscourt - Kingscourt.
Drumalee v Ballyhaise - Ballyhaise
Lavey v Killeshandra - Killeshandra
Laragh v Kill - Laragh
Ballymachugh v Bailieboro - Draw
Shercock v Swanlinbar - Swad
Arva v Shannon Gaels - Shannon Gaels
Butlersbridge v Templeport - Bridge.
Redhills v Belturbet - Belturbet
Cuchulainns v Ramor -Cucu
Mullahoran v Crosserlough - Mullahorn
Knockbride v Cootehill - Knockbride
Munterconnacht v Cavan Gaels - Gaels
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on July 23, 2009, 01:22:12 PM
Quote from: Mr. Pain on July 23, 2009, 10:02:06 AM
Po Po Po Poker Face! Apologies, one of the Paininis was listening to that GoGo song in the car this morning. Mrs. Pain had to smack that ass. You did well so Slut-It-Up? So, the club championship proper returns to our fields. Well it's about time Mr. Pain hears you yell. Crazy things have happening already - Killygarry importing coffey from England, players off to Australia and New Zealand and Hollow Man retiring from the board. It's been a hectic week. Just a matter of interest Booj - what kind of deal did you cut with Hollow Man? Sex, drugs, gates? Mr. Pain is interested. Ballyhaise to win, Lacken to win with the Crowes grounding Coffey, Bailieboro to win despite themselves, Lavey to win, Arva to win, Redhills to win. More to follow. Rant over!

Yep it went well for me. With my Bruce Willis glasses nobody could read my eyes ;D

I also stick on my my portbale casseste player and listen to Pokerface and The Gambler on repeat. You gotta know when to hold and know when too fold them!

However, it is championship time so I will quit the jibber-jabber.

Can't see anyone stopping the Gaels but would love see Redhills or Kingscourt make the final. Ballyhaise are my tip for the IFC and at junior, I would go for Shannon Gaels, though I think the Bridge will give them a run for their money.

And remember everyone keep your eyes open for new talent. Especially Midfielders and CF's!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on July 23, 2009, 01:53:32 PM
Quote from: put-it-up on July 23, 2009, 01:22:12 PM

However, it is championship time so I will quit the jibber-jabber.

Can't see anyone stopping the Gaels but would love see Redhills or Kingscourt make the final. Ballyhaise are my tip for the IFC and at junior, I would go for Shannon Gaels, though I think the Bridge will give them a run for their money.

And remember everyone keep your eyes open for new talent. Especially Midfielders and CF's!

Id take a full back if your looking.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on July 23, 2009, 02:34:41 PM
Quote from: cavan4ever on July 23, 2009, 01:53:32 PM
Quote from: put-it-up on July 23, 2009, 01:22:12 PM

However, it is championship time so I will quit the jibber-jabber.

Can't see anyone stopping the Gaels but would love see Redhills or Kingscourt make the final. Ballyhaise are my tip for the IFC and at junior, I would go for Shannon Gaels, though I think the Bridge will give them a run for their money.

And remember everyone keep your eyes open for new talent. Especially Midfielders and CF's!

Id take a full back if your looking.

I didn't think I needed to say we were looking for one of them....it is just so obvious ;D Either Smith from Killygarry or Lavey would be my choices. I'd give both them a chance. Wouldn't get rid of Dermot of the panel, he is more of a natural WB and has a very good attitude. The boy from Kingscourt is good but he done his cruciate so we wont see him again this year.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on July 23, 2009, 02:36:43 PM
Quote from: put-it-up on July 23, 2009, 02:34:41 PM
Quote from: cavan4ever on July 23, 2009, 01:53:32 PM
Quote from: put-it-up on July 23, 2009, 01:22:12 PM

However, it is championship time so I will quit the jibber-jabber.

Can't see anyone stopping the Gaels but would love see Redhills or Kingscourt make the final. Ballyhaise are my tip for the IFC and at junior, I would go for Shannon Gaels, though I think the Bridge will give them a run for their money.

And remember everyone keep your eyes open for new talent. Especially Midfielders and CF's!

Id take a full back if your looking.

I didn't think I needed to say we were looking for one of them....it is just so obvious ;D Either Smith from Killygarry or Lavey would be my choices. I'd give both them a chance. Wouldn't get rid of Dermot of the panel, he is more of a natural WB and has a very good attitude. The boy from Kingscourt is good but he done his cruciate so we wont see him again this year.

What do you think of your chances against ballymachugh?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on July 23, 2009, 03:06:17 PM
Dunno to be honest, going to be a very tough game for our lads.

They don't give much away easily, so the sleeves will have to be rolled up I would imagine!

Where do your allegiances lie may i ask, can't remember!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on July 23, 2009, 03:10:48 PM
Quote from: put-it-up on July 23, 2009, 03:06:17 PM
Dunno to be honest, going to be a very tough game for our lads.

They don't give much away easily, so the sleeves will have to be rolled up I would imagine!

Where do your allegiances lie may i ask, can't remember!

I dont think ballymachugh are up to much to be honest but they are always hard to beat in the championship.  Im from Drung so a ballmachugh win would leave the group wide open but i cant see it happen.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on July 23, 2009, 03:20:43 PM
Quote from: cavan4ever on July 23, 2009, 03:10:48 PM
Quote from: put-it-up on July 23, 2009, 03:06:17 PM
Dunno to be honest, going to be a very tough game for our lads.

They don't give much away easily, so the sleeves will have to be rolled up I would imagine!

Where do your allegiances lie may i ask, can't remember!

I dont think ballymachugh are up to much to be honest but they are always hard to beat in the championship.  Im from Drung so a ballmachugh win would leave the group wide open but i cant see it happen.

What did you think of our game against yourselves a few weeks ago? No they never are great but it always a dogged fight to get past them, and as I said we have a few major injury concerns.

All will be revealed fairly soon! :D

How is Watters?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on July 23, 2009, 03:28:15 PM
Quote from: put-it-up on July 23, 2009, 03:20:43 PM
Quote from: cavan4ever on July 23, 2009, 03:10:48 PM
Quote from: put-it-up on July 23, 2009, 03:06:17 PM
Dunno to be honest, going to be a very tough game for our lads.

They don't give much away easily, so the sleeves will have to be rolled up I would imagine!

Where do your allegiances lie may i ask, can't remember!

I dont think ballymachugh are up to much to be honest but they are always hard to beat in the championship.  Im from Drung so a ballmachugh win would leave the group wide open but i cant see it happen.

What did you think of our game against yourselves a few weeks ago? No they never are great but it always a dogged fight to get past them, and as I said we have a few major injury concerns.

All will be revealed fairly soon! :D

How is Watters?

Paddy Bird won it for you, if he was stopped it would have been close.  Watters was a big lose and wont be back till next year.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on July 23, 2009, 03:39:16 PM
Quote from: cavan4ever on July 23, 2009, 03:28:15 PM
Quote from: put-it-up on July 23, 2009, 03:20:43 PM
Quote from: cavan4ever on July 23, 2009, 03:10:48 PM
Quote from: put-it-up on July 23, 2009, 03:06:17 PM
Dunno to be honest, going to be a very tough game for our lads.

They don't give much away easily, so the sleeves will have to be rolled up I would imagine!

Where do your allegiances lie may i ask, can't remember!

I dont think ballymachugh are up to much to be honest but they are always hard to beat in the championship.  Im from Drung so a ballmachugh win would leave the group wide open but i cant see it happen.

What did you think of our game against yourselves a few weeks ago? No they never are great but it always a dogged fight to get past them, and as I said we have a few major injury concerns.

All will be revealed fairly soon! :D

How is Watters?

Paddy Bird won it for you, if he was stopped it would have been close.  Watters was a big lose and wont be back till next year.

We are without Bird for four weeks..he got sent off at a junior game  >:(

Big problem for us!!!!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on July 23, 2009, 03:55:29 PM
Quote from: put-it-up on July 23, 2009, 03:39:16 PM
Quote from: cavan4ever on July 23, 2009, 03:28:15 PM
Quote from: put-it-up on July 23, 2009, 03:20:43 PM
Quote from: cavan4ever on July 23, 2009, 03:10:48 PM
Quote from: put-it-up on July 23, 2009, 03:06:17 PM
Dunno to be honest, going to be a very tough game for our lads.

They don't give much away easily, so the sleeves will have to be rolled up I would imagine!

Where do your allegiances lie may i ask, can't remember!

I dont think ballymachugh are up to much to be honest but they are always hard to beat in the championship.  Im from Drung so a ballmachugh win would leave the group wide open but i cant see it happen.

What did you think of our game against yourselves a few weeks ago? No they never are great but it always a dogged fight to get past them, and as I said we have a few major injury concerns.

All will be revealed fairly soon! :D

How is Watters?

Paddy Bird won it for you, if he was stopped it would have been close.  Watters was a big lose and wont be back till next year.

We are without Bird for four weeks..he got sent off at a junior game  >:(

Big problem for us!!!!

Same happened our Full Back and he missed the game against yourselves.  Id worry about where you are going to get scores from now.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on July 23, 2009, 04:00:12 PM
That is if they come from anywhere ;D

Big test for our other forwards!

Looking forward to seeing a couple of games over the weekend now
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on July 23, 2009, 06:32:09 PM
Quote from: cavan4ever on July 22, 2009, 11:23:09 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on July 22, 2009, 11:21:27 PM
Quote from: cavan4ever on July 22, 2009, 11:17:51 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on July 22, 2009, 11:16:24 PM
Quote from: RednBlack on July 22, 2009, 11:11:17 PM
Heard our management brought back Jamie Coffey. Interesting to see if he plays against Lacken and how players react to it.

PS Good to see ye all back  ;D

Theres a blast from the past RednBlack!!!!
He was a very good footballer on his day.
Hed make any club team better,Players just outside the Top 15-20 panel on club teams  from my experience dont have too much problems if players of top quality return late in the season and get game time on the seniors,Its normaly when lads that they dont rate are put in front of them,that the arguments start!!  ;D
Ive seen it with Ali Pickett returning in Ballyhaise and theres never been problems.

How long has Coffey being away, what age is he now?

Pickett was never away to long was he?

A few different years hes only been back seriously in August and has played no games all year,but he was fit enough after a few weeks training to play for the Seniors.
Hes away at the minute on an Around the World Trip,been gone since January,so you might see it happen again this year  :D

Well thats fair enough but the Killygarry thing seems a bit desperate to me. 
Hav to agree there.I wouldnt b pleased if I was training and playing all year for some outsider to come in and take my place,even as a sub.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on July 23, 2009, 07:47:22 PM
Quote from: boojangles on July 23, 2009, 06:32:09 PM
Quote from: cavan4ever on July 22, 2009, 11:23:09 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on July 22, 2009, 11:21:27 PM
Quote from: cavan4ever on July 22, 2009, 11:17:51 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on July 22, 2009, 11:16:24 PM
Quote from: RednBlack on July 22, 2009, 11:11:17 PM
Heard our management brought back Jamie Coffey. Interesting to see if he plays against Lacken and how players react to it.

PS Good to see ye all back  ;D

Theres a blast from the past RednBlack!!!!
He was a very good footballer on his day.
Hed make any club team better,Players just outside the Top 15-20 panel on club teams  from my experience dont have too much problems if players of top quality return late in the season and get game time on the seniors,Its normaly when lads that they dont rate are put in front of them,that the arguments start!!  ;D
Ive seen it with Ali Pickett returning in Ballyhaise and theres never been problems.

How long has Coffey being away, what age is he now?

Pickett was never away to long was he?

A few different years hes only been back seriously in August and has played no games all year,but he was fit enough after a few weeks training to play for the Seniors.
Hes away at the minute on an Around the World Trip,been gone since January,so you might see it happen again this year  :D

Well thats fair enough but the Killygarry thing seems a bit desperate to me. 
Hav to agree there.I wouldnt b pleased if I was training and playing all year for some outsider to come in and take my place,even as a sub.

I agree Boojangles and it's typical of the elitism virus that runs through GAA IMO. Win at all costs and no thought given to the effort being made by the less talented but equally dedicated club members.
On another note, does anyone know the schedule of club games after this weekend. I thought I heard that there were no more league games until after the championship but does that mean that the final round is on the bank holiday weekend?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: big balla on July 23, 2009, 08:44:54 PM
Quote from: Lawrence of Knockbride on July 23, 2009, 07:47:22 PM
Quote from: boojangles on July 23, 2009, 06:32:09 PM
Quote from: cavan4ever on July 22, 2009, 11:23:09 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on July 22, 2009, 11:21:27 PM
Quote from: cavan4ever on July 22, 2009, 11:17:51 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on July 22, 2009, 11:16:24 PM
Quote from: RednBlack on July 22, 2009, 11:11:17 PM
Heard our management brought back Jamie Coffey. Interesting to see if he plays against Lacken and how players react to it.

PS Good to see ye all back  ;D


Theres a blast from the past RednBlack!!!!
He was a very good footballer on his day.
Hed make any club team better,Players just outside the Top 15-20 panel on club teams  from my experience dont have too much problems if players of top quality return late in the season and get game time on the seniors,Its normaly when lads that they dont rate are put in front of them,that the arguments start!!  ;D
Ive seen it with Ali Pickett returning in Ballyhaise and theres never been problems.

How long has Coffey being away, what age is he now?

Pickett was never away to long was he?

A few different years hes only been back seriously in August and has played no games all year,but he was fit enough after a few weeks training to play for the Seniors.
Hes away at the minute on an Around the World Trip,been gone since January,so you might see it happen again this year  :D

Well thats fair enough but the Killygarry thing seems a bit desperate to me. 
Hav to agree there.I wouldnt b pleased if I was training and playing all year for some outsider to come in and take my place,even as a sub.

I agree Boojangles and it's typical of the elitism virus that runs through GAA IMO. Win at all costs and no thought given to the effort being made by the less talented but equally dedicated club members.
On another note, does anyone know the schedule of club games after this weekend. I thought I heard that there were no more league games until after the championship but does that mean that the final round is on the bank holiday weekend?
in fairness you have to put out your strongest team  and if that means playing someone who has been away for whatever reason, you should play them. you
cant play a lad who's not up to scratch just because he's trained all year. i think most lads would understand if its for the good of the team
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on July 23, 2009, 08:55:03 PM
Quote from: big balla on July 23, 2009, 08:44:54 PM
Quote from: Lawrence of Knockbride on July 23, 2009, 07:47:22 PM
Quote from: boojangles on July 23, 2009, 06:32:09 PM
Quote from: cavan4ever on July 22, 2009, 11:23:09 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on July 22, 2009, 11:21:27 PM
Quote from: cavan4ever on July 22, 2009, 11:17:51 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on July 22, 2009, 11:16:24 PM
Quote from: RednBlack on July 22, 2009, 11:11:17 PM
Heard our management brought back Jamie Coffey. Interesting to see if he plays against Lacken and how players react to it.

PS Good to see ye all back  ;D


Theres a blast from the past RednBlack!!!!
He was a very good footballer on his day.
Hed make any club team better,Players just outside the Top 15-20 panel on club teams  from my experience dont have too much problems if players of top quality return late in the season and get game time on the seniors,Its normaly when lads that they dont rate are put in front of them,that the arguments start!!  ;D
Ive seen it with Ali Pickett returning in Ballyhaise and theres never been problems.

How long has Coffey being away, what age is he now?

Pickett was never away to long was he?

A few different years hes only been back seriously in August and has played no games all year,but he was fit enough after a few weeks training to play for the Seniors.
Hes away at the minute on an Around the World Trip,been gone since January,so you might see it happen again this year  :D

Well thats fair enough but the Killygarry thing seems a bit desperate to me. 
Hav to agree there.I wouldnt b pleased if I was training and playing all year for some outsider to come in and take my place,even as a sub.

I agree Boojangles and it's typical of the elitism virus that runs through GAA IMO. Win at all costs and no thought given to the effort being made by the less talented but equally dedicated club members.
On another note, does anyone know the schedule of club games after this weekend. I thought I heard that there were no more league games until after the championship but does that mean that the final round is on the bank holiday weekend?
in fairness you have to put out your strongest team  and if that means playing someone who has been away for whatever reason, you should play them. you
cant play a lad who's not up to scratch just because he's trained all year. i think most lads would understand if its for the good of the team

So your saying all the good players don't need to train or put in the effort because they are naturally better than others...exactly the problem with Cavan football.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on July 23, 2009, 08:55:58 PM
Quote from: big balla on July 23, 2009, 08:44:54 PM
Quote from: Lawrence of Knockbride on July 23, 2009, 07:47:22 PM
Quote from: boojangles on July 23, 2009, 06:32:09 PM
Quote from: cavan4ever on July 22, 2009, 11:23:09 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on July 22, 2009, 11:21:27 PM
Quote from: cavan4ever on July 22, 2009, 11:17:51 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on July 22, 2009, 11:16:24 PM
Quote from: RednBlack on July 22, 2009, 11:11:17 PM
Heard our management brought back Jamie Coffey. Interesting to see if he plays against Lacken and how players react to it.

PS Good to see ye all back  ;D


Theres a blast from the past RednBlack!!!!
He was a very good footballer on his day.
Hed make any club team better,Players just outside the Top 15-20 panel on club teams  from my experience dont have too much problems if players of top quality return late in the season and get game time on the seniors,Its normaly when lads that they dont rate are put in front of them,that the arguments start!!  ;D
Ive seen it with Ali Pickett returning in Ballyhaise and theres never been problems.

How long has Coffey being away, what age is he now?

Pickett was never away to long was he?

A few different years hes only been back seriously in August and has played no games all year,but he was fit enough after a few weeks training to play for the Seniors.
Hes away at the minute on an Around the World Trip,been gone since January,so you might see it happen again this year  :D

Well thats fair enough but the Killygarry thing seems a bit desperate to me. 
Hav to agree there.I wouldnt b pleased if I was training and playing all year for some outsider to come in and take my place,even as a sub.

I agree Boojangles and it's typical of the elitism virus that runs through GAA IMO. Win at all costs and no thought given to the effort being made by the less talented but equally dedicated club members.
On another note, does anyone know the schedule of club games after this weekend. I thought I heard that there were no more league games until after the championship but does that mean that the final round is on the bank holiday weekend?
in fairness you have to put out your strongest team  and if that means playing someone who has been away for whatever reason, you should play them. you
cant play a lad who's not up to scratch just because he's trained all year. i think most lads would understand if its for the good of the team

I would totally disagree with that statement.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on July 23, 2009, 08:56:56 PM
Quote from: big balla on July 23, 2009, 08:44:54 PM
Quote from: Lawrence of Knockbride on July 23, 2009, 07:47:22 PM
Quote from: boojangles on July 23, 2009, 06:32:09 PM
Quote from: cavan4ever on July 22, 2009, 11:23:09 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on July 22, 2009, 11:21:27 PM
Quote from: cavan4ever on July 22, 2009, 11:17:51 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on July 22, 2009, 11:16:24 PM
Quote from: RednBlack on July 22, 2009, 11:11:17 PM
Heard our management brought back Jamie Coffey. Interesting to see if he plays against Lacken and how players react to it.

PS Good to see ye all back  ;D


Theres a blast from the past RednBlack!!!!
He was a very good footballer on his day.
Hed make any club team better,Players just outside the Top 15-20 panel on club teams  from my experience dont have too much problems if players of top quality return late in the season and get game time on the seniors,Its normaly when lads that they dont rate are put in front of them,that the arguments start!!  ;D
Ive seen it with Ali Pickett returning in Ballyhaise and theres never been problems.

How long has Coffey being away, what age is he now?

Pickett was never away to long was he?

A few different years hes only been back seriously in August and has played no games all year,but he was fit enough after a few weeks training to play for the Seniors.
Hes away at the minute on an Around the World Trip,been gone since January,so you might see it happen again this year  :D

Well thats fair enough but the Killygarry thing seems a bit desperate to me. 
Hav to agree there.I wouldnt b pleased if I was training and playing all year for some outsider to come in and take my place,even as a sub.

I agree Boojangles and it's typical of the elitism virus that runs through GAA IMO. Win at all costs and no thought given to the effort being made by the less talented but equally dedicated club members.
On another note, does anyone know the schedule of club games after this weekend. I thought I heard that there were no more league games until after the championship but does that mean that the final round is on the bank holiday weekend?
in fairness you have to put out your strongest team  and if that means playing someone who has been away for whatever reason, you should play them. you
cant play a lad who's not up to scratch just because he's trained all year. i think most lads would understand if its for the good of the team
Yeah what each club should do is tell 15 lads in February to keep themselves fit and they'll play every game. No need for competition for places or desire to win. Just a comfort zone for a big click. Maybe Carr should just get all the 97 lads back. Sorry Big Balla but to say I think your point is bullshit is and understatement.
Oh,just seeing that someone beat me to it.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on July 23, 2009, 09:12:52 PM
So your saying all the good players don't need to train or put in the effort because they are naturally better than others...exactly the problem with Cavan football.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: big balla on July 23, 2009, 09:23:49 PM
Quote from: Lawrence of Knockbride on July 23, 2009, 08:56:56 PM
Quote from: big balla on July 23, 2009, 08:44:54 PM
Quote from: Lawrence of Knockbride on July 23, 2009, 07:47:22 PM
Quote from: boojangles on July 23, 2009, 06:32:09 PM
Quote from: cavan4ever on July 22, 2009, 11:23:09 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on July 22, 2009, 11:21:27 PM
Quote from: cavan4ever on July 22, 2009, 11:17:51 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on July 22, 2009, 11:16:24 PM
Quote from: RednBlack on July 22, 2009, 11:11:17 PM
Heard our management brought back Jamie Coffey. Interesting to see if he plays against Lacken and how players react to it.

PS Good to see ye all back  ;D


Theres a blast from the past RednBlack!!!!
He was a very good footballer on his day.
Hed make any club team better,Players just outside the Top 15-20 panel on club teams  from my experience dont have too much problems if players of top quality return late in the season and get game time on the seniors,Its normaly when lads that they dont rate are put in front of them,that the arguments start!!  ;D
Ive seen it with Ali Pickett returning in Ballyhaise and theres never been problems.

How long has Coffey being away, what age is he now?

Pickett was never away to long was he?

A few different years hes only been back seriously in August and has played no games all year,but he was fit enough after a few weeks training to play for the Seniors.
Hes away at the minute on an Around the World Trip,been gone since January,so you might see it happen again this year  :D

Well thats fair enough but the Killygarry thing seems a bit desperate to me. 
Hav to agree there.I wouldnt b pleased if I was training and playing all year for some outsider to come in and take my place,even as a sub.

I agree Boojangles and it's typical of the elitism virus that runs through GAA IMO. Win at all costs and no thought given to the effort being made by the less talented but equally dedicated club members.
On another note, does anyone know the schedule of club games after this weekend. I thought I heard that there were no more league games until after the championship but does that mean that the final round is on the bank holiday weekend?
in fairness you have to put out your strongest team  and if that means playing someone who has been away for whatever reason, you should play them. you
cant play a lad who's not up to scratch just because he's trained all year. i think most lads would understand if its for the good of the team
Yeah what each club should do is tell 15 lads in February to keep themselves fit and they'll play every game. No need for competition for places or desire to win. Just a comfort zone for a big click. Maybe Carr should just get all the 97 lads back. Sorry Big Balla but to say I think your point is bullshit is and understatement.
Oh,just seeing that someone beat me to it.
if he's match fit and is doin better than other lads in training then of course he should get a place, if he deserves it. im not saying there should be a place kept for him all the time but if he's good enough he deserves it. and its nothing to do with winning at all costs either. your basically saying that anyone who has been away for work or whatever shouldn't be let come back and expect a fair shot at a place on the team just because  fellas who have been at home all year have trained with the team. that is dung talk. if he came back a stone overweight and was gettin cleaned out in training it'd be a totally different story, but red'n black has said he's flying fit and was playing football recently enough. he obviously put in the effort when he was away. do you not think he put in the effort in years gone by to allow him a fair chance to compete for a place? and extra lads on the squad will only improve competition, how you think it reduces it is beyond me
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: big balla on July 23, 2009, 09:27:43 PM
Quote from: put-it-up on July 23, 2009, 09:12:52 PM
So your saying all the good players don't need to train or put in the effort because they are naturally better than others...exactly the problem with Cavan football.
thats not what im saying at all, red n black already said he's in great shape, he has obviously put in the effort, just did it away from home
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on July 23, 2009, 10:44:06 PM
Quote from: big balla on July 23, 2009, 09:27:43 PM
Quote from: put-it-up on July 23, 2009, 09:12:52 PM
So your saying all the good players don't need to train or put in the effort because they are naturally better than others...exactly the problem with Cavan football.
thats not what im saying at all, red n black already said he's in great shape, he has obviously put in the effort, just did it away from home

Jamie Coffey hasnt played wit Killygarry in 4-5 years? correct me if Im wrong.No disrespect to the fella,he used to coach me at Primary school level, he is a sound man and was a good footballer in his day,but if Killygarry need to b gettin him back then there is something wrong.Thats no disrespect RedNBlack but Im sure you agree.
Big Balla if there is a lad that has put in great service for a number of years for his club and for some reason missed part of the year but came back and was as fit as everyone,then he should be considered.But if in a case like this,I dont think there can be any argument.At this stage Jamie Coffey is not a Killygarry man,and I cant see how anyone could be happy about it.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on July 24, 2009, 12:33:15 AM
BJ without knowing his personal circumstances I wouldn't say Jamie Coffey isn't a Killygarry man because he hasn't been around for 3/4 years. The way this feckin country is going towards banana republic status clubs will be damn glad to get blokes back who have been away 3/4 years, maybe longer. If he goes down, does the training, judge him on his merits.

Similarly, if young Reilly from the Stars goes and wins a few AFL flags with Melbourne and after 10 years decides he wants to do a Tadhg Kennelly and achieve what Uncle Jim did not achieve, let him come home, try out and if he's good enough give him his chance.

Don't want to be a bore about this but I lived away for long enough during the pre Tiger days, there were any number of Jamie Coffey types who would have killed to be back at home doing their bit, that day has returned so we may as well get used to it.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: big balla on July 24, 2009, 12:51:16 AM
Quote from: boojangles on July 23, 2009, 10:44:06 PM
Quote from: big balla on July 23, 2009, 09:27:43 PM
Quote from: put-it-up on July 23, 2009, 09:12:52 PM
So your saying all the good players don't need to train or put in the effort because they are naturally better than others...exactly the problem with Cavan football.
thats not what im saying at all, red n black already said he's in great shape, he has obviously put in the effort, just did it away from home

Jamie Coffey hasnt played wit Killygarry in 4-5 years? correct me if Im wrong.No disrespect to the fella,he used to coach me at Primary school level, he is a sound man and was a good footballer in his day,but if Killygarry need to b gettin him back then there is something wrong.Thats no disrespect RedNBlack but Im sure you agree.
Big Balla if there is a lad that has put in great service for a number of years for his club and for some reason missed part of the year but came back and was as fit as everyone,then he should be considered.But if in a case like this,I dont think there can be any argument.At this stage Jamie Coffey is not a Killygarry man,and I cant see how anyone could be happy about it.
not a killygarry man?? thats absolutely outrageous boojangles. anglocelt just hit the nail on the head, i hope you have the cop to see how stupid, and insulting, that is. he's not the first man to head to london to work and he wont be the last. if the shoe was on the other foot would you be as quick to accept that you were no longer from drumalee? i'm sure if you thought you could come back and help your club you'd jump at the chance in the same situation. your usually level headed enough when hollowman isnt about but that is total bullshit,your worst ever post
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Babe Ruth 47 on July 24, 2009, 09:02:03 AM
Well said lads, once a Killygarry man always a Killygarry man, once a Lacken man always a Lacken man, once a Maghera man always a Maghera man etc........ It's your club, 3-4 years over by doesn't break that bond. I wish him the best of luck.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Drung on July 24, 2009, 09:52:01 AM
I agree, he gave outstanding service to Killygarry and almost won them the intermediate on his own, he was unreal at club level. I remember he scored 1-8 from midfield in the Div Two league final that year as well.
He was flying over and back from London to play for them for years and owes Killygarry nothing. Fair play to him and good luck to him.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on July 24, 2009, 12:47:42 PM
From the HS.

Looks the the conversation I heard in Cavan a couple of weeks ago was true....

Carr faces club revolt

Tommy Carr could be forced out of the Cavan football manager's position next Monday night.

It's believed that at least five clubs will table a motion of no confidence in the former Dublin and Roscommon boss at a county board meeting in the Kilmore Hotel. Carr has been barely in charge of the Breffni County for nine months, during which they struggled in Division 3 of the NFL and were knocked out of the Ulster championship and All-Ireland qualifiers by Division 4 sides Antrim and Wicklow respectively.

The county board executive met on Wednesday night and will make contact with Carr in the coming days to inform him of the feeling at grassroots level.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on July 24, 2009, 02:11:56 PM
Jesus christ I've heard it all  now, well why would we be surprised after the way Val Andrews was treated. I've got this sinking feeling the clubs tabling the motion aren't going to be rollng out Mickey Harte or Joe Kernan or McGeeney_Grimley as proposed replacements.

How do you get a no confidence motion up for the entire County Board/about one third of the current senior panel

Five clubs?? ok we can take it some of our stars have mandated Gowna to go with it. Others?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on July 24, 2009, 02:24:26 PM
Quote from: anglocelt39 on July 24, 2009, 02:11:56 PM
Jesus christ I've heard it all  now, well why would we be surprised after the way Val Andrews was treated. I've got this sinking feeling the clubs tabling the motion aren't going to be rollng out Mickey Harte or Joe Kernan or McGeeney_Grimley as proposed replacements.

How do you get a no confidence motion up for the entire County Board/about one third of the current senior panel

Five clubs?? ok we can take it some of our stars have mandated Gowna to go with it. Others?

Looks like we are going to be back to square one now.

That is the annoying thing, they will be happy enough to run him out but I doubt very much there will be a big name replacement lined up. I have a feeling clubs will try get a Cavan man back in the job. I don't agree with it but from stuff I've heard I got a few mentions of a joined management team. If that is the case, who has the final say you know?

I'm honestly not sure how the no confidence thing works to be honest.

I duno what clubs are unhappy either. Gowna I am sure. I imagine the other clubs will have members on the CB that are very unhappy you know?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on July 24, 2009, 02:30:48 PM
Ah well that's better so, a joint management team-McIlkennon/Cassidy and Keogan/Grimley like, first case the right men doing the wrong job, second case nobody could tell where the buck stopped. Is it too early to feck off to the boozer?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on July 24, 2009, 02:45:16 PM
Quote from: anglocelt39 on July 24, 2009, 02:30:48 PM
Ah well that's better so, a joint management team-McIlkennon/Cassidy and Keogan/Grimley like, first case the right men doing the wrong job, second case nobody could tell where the buck stopped. Is it too early to feck off to the boozer?

No I heard like Stephen King and Ciaran Brady doing it together..Don't know what way that would work either!

Yeah it is a little too early for pints, wait unttil 5!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on July 24, 2009, 02:58:04 PM
Quote from: put-it-up on July 24, 2009, 02:45:16 PM
Quote from: anglocelt39 on July 24, 2009, 02:30:48 PM
Ah well that's better so, a joint management team-McIlkennon/Cassidy and Keogan/Grimley like, first case the right men doing the wrong job, second case nobody could tell where the buck stopped. Is it too early to feck off to the boozer?

No I heard like Stephen King and Ciaran Brady doing it together..Don't know what way that would work either!

Yeah it is a little too early for pints, wait unttil 5!



Might be a job in it for our own Myles as communications officer, or dealing with the joint management team's expenses................
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on July 24, 2009, 02:59:18 PM
Yeah it is a little too early for pints, wait unttil 5


Pedal to the metal and i could be in Nixy's by 8
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on July 24, 2009, 03:05:31 PM
Quote from: anglocelt39 on July 24, 2009, 02:58:04 PM
Quote from: put-it-up on July 24, 2009, 02:45:16 PM
Quote from: anglocelt39 on July 24, 2009, 02:30:48 PM
Ah well that's better so, a joint management team-McIlkennon/Cassidy and Keogan/Grimley like, first case the right men doing the wrong job, second case nobody could tell where the buck stopped. Is it too early to feck off to the boozer?

No I heard like Stephen King and Ciaran Brady doing it together..Don't know what way that would work either!

Yeah it is a little too early for pints, wait unttil 5!

Yeah and we could hire Hollow Man to watch over and make  sure he does everything ok and spells everything properly!

Do you still return home AC 39, at the weekend's?

I have no idea who you are ;D



Might be a job in it for our own Myles as communications officer, or dealing with the joint management team's expenses................
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on July 24, 2009, 03:24:43 PM
spent a sum total of 24 hours in the old home town in the last two years Put it Up, so you're excused..............
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on July 24, 2009, 03:30:57 PM
Quote from: anglocelt39 on July 24, 2009, 03:24:43 PM
spent a sum total of 24 hours in the old home town in the last two years Put it Up, so you're excused..............

That is just not good enough I am afraid. There is a Christmas in July party in Failte tonight with tunes being played by the world-renonwed DJ Lawless. Surely you could return for that  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on July 24, 2009, 03:39:13 PM
 Charlies gawson? FFS. My remaining family ties up there would be to a different sort of DJ/event manager no less, plying his trade in  the big smoke now.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on July 24, 2009, 03:45:55 PM
Clubs voting for Carr out? Well there was a rump of them wanted McHugh out in his time there, same with Val Andrews, so if they're wont to get rid of decent ones, they might as well go the whole hog and dump out anyone who so much as fails to win an All-Ireland in their first year.

We're a national f**king embarrassment both on and off the field, if it wasn't for Kilkenny we'd be the most hopeless and hapless football team in the country. I think I'll just leave the lunatics to run the asylum and waste no more of my time worrying about them, the clowns.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on July 24, 2009, 03:54:08 PM
Too many dreamers and not enough realists...

Most of us here are realists, pith the CB officials are not the same
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on July 24, 2009, 04:31:34 PM
Quote from: anglocelt39 on July 24, 2009, 02:58:04 PM
Quote from: put-it-up on July 24, 2009, 02:45:16 PM
Quote from: anglocelt39 on July 24, 2009, 02:30:48 PM
Ah well that's better so, a joint management team-McIlkennon/Cassidy and Keogan/Grimley like, first case the right men doing the wrong job, second case nobody could tell where the buck stopped. Is it too early to feck off to the boozer?

No I heard like Stephen King and Ciaran Brady doing it together..Don't know what way that would work either!

Yeah it is a little too early for pints, wait unttil 5!



Might be a job in it for our own Myles as communications officer, or dealing with the joint management team's expenses................

No thanks. One of those gentlemen (nickname begins with DICK) would be looking for expenses that would make a corrupt politician green with envy. I haven't enough digits on my calculator.

Another embarrassing event in Cavan history is about to happen. The vote will probably not be passed, but just as in the past it may be enough to force carr to walk. And what do we do then???
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on July 24, 2009, 04:47:32 PM
i said if before,i would rather see half the county board(and youth board by the sounds of what Rednblack has said) get the chop than Carr.
They are a worthless shower,
from appointing Keoghan over Damien Cassidy,
to outsourcing the search for our senior manager to sportstracker.
Their activities would have been laughable if they were not so detrimental to football in this county.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tierworker blue on July 24, 2009, 05:32:35 PM
Ah Jebus...here we go again. Christ, 'tis a frustrating set up...it'd just wear you down, eh?! Surely, I was hoping for a better impact from TC, but the county board and the clubs need a good look in the mirror now...continuously scapegoating manager after manager will never get us anywhere. The problems are waaaay deeper than that. Man...we're some joke atm!
That par-tay in Failte sounds like just what the doctor ordered right now Put it up!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on July 24, 2009, 06:13:28 PM
Quote from: RednBlack on July 24, 2009, 03:48:13 PM
Quote from: anglocelt39 on July 24, 2009, 02:11:56 PM
Jesus christ I've heard it all  now, well why would we be surprised after the way Val Andrews was treated. I've got this sinking feeling the clubs tabling the motion aren't going to be rollng out Mickey Harte or Joe Kernan or McGeeney_Grimley as proposed replacements.

How do you get a no confidence motion up for the entire County Board/about one third of the current senior panel

Five clubs?? ok we can take it some of our stars have mandated Gowna to go with it. Others?

Shame more clubs hadn't the balls last night to take on Chairman Argue at Youth Board level and the shambles they are creating at U16 and Minor level.

League only finished last week and a lot of families have gone away now on hols or lads to the Gaeltacht. Mr Argue wants the Master Fixture plan to be adhered to hence Championship starts next week and feck everyone else. A few clubs spoke up but an awful lot kept their mouths shut. Even board members said afterwards that the ideas put forward made sense but the puppets wouldn't challenge Mao.

Mao's last mouthful before he closed the meeting was that the Minor Champ would be put back a couple of weeks so where his is Master Fixture plan with that.

Bunch of gobshites.

On the TC front what manager of any standard in their right mind would come to Cavan with the mindset of clubs here. The same people will bitch and moan in the background and send motions to County Board and still allow their players drink themselves silly and generally only concern themselves with their own little parish. Whether I believe in TC or not I don't think even Mickey Harte or Mick O'Dwyer would perform miracles with our players after 24 odd weeks or so with them.

This county is depressing.

Ahh look it RednBlack, I didn't know whether to cry last night or go round up a few good old boys for a auld fashion lynchin... Our Under 16 team was placed in Division 3 for the league despite our pleas to be put in Division 4 (because of the 13 a side)... we played 4 games, hammered in every one of them, our first game a player got injured and had to come off so we played the whole second half with 14 players.... Another game we could only manage to get 14 and played the whole game like that.... We couldn't get anywhere near 15 players for the 3 games after the Junior Cert, we had players away on holidays and our Under 14 players weren't available - we probably couldn't have got even 8 or 9 players... I honestly thought they would be no problem and we would be relegated to Division 4.... Imagine my surprise when we were still in Division 3 for the Championship. 
So basically the Youth Board are saying that we got beaten in the 4 games we played - playing a game and half with 14 men due to lack of numbers - and couldn't field a team in the other 3 and that that form is good enough to stay in the same Division.
WHY ARE WE SURPRISED THAT FOOTBALL IS GOING AS BAD AS IT IS WITH PEOPLE MAKING DECISIONS LIKE THIS...
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on July 24, 2009, 07:14:41 PM
Ah jesus christ. Anyway lads its not all bad news for ye on here. I've had enough and am taking a Hollow Man sabbatical so enjoy a bit more peace. So just grant me one last rant.

Turn the clock back a short while to 2004. We had a top class management team-Coleman (RIP) and McIlkennon. We were beating Down, We were putting it right up to Tyrone, Derry, Armagh. We had lads that could defend and put themselves about a bit-Rabbitte, Crowe, Crotty. We had options at midfield-McCabe, Mckenna, Paddy Brady (?!); Eamon had Ger Pierson and Mckeever on fire. he plucked Lyng and Gaynor from a minor team and had them looking like part of a serious future for Cavan football. We pushed Down massively in an Under 21 final which could have been won.

In short, we had the makings of a serious platform.

What have we got since then, courtesy of our County Board:

A management team of McIlkennon and Cassidy-right men in the wrong places;
A management team of Keogan and Grimley_we never got to the bottom of who was in charge:
A management team of Keogan and some other bloke.
Tommy Carr-the worst thing you can say about Tommy's reign to date is that some people are speaking fondly about DK.

So, if the County Board sanction Tommys departure, they are admitting to 4 failed management appointments and delivering our senior county team from being a promising, emerging outfit to being a fairly dispirited, gutless outfit that any County in Ireland (except maybe Kilkenny) would fancy their chances against.

Will the County board stand aside, doesn't seem like it. The only hope is that the Sponsors, the Dublin Supporters Club and a few other sources of finance withold the funds until there are sweeping changes at County Board level. Radical I know but what other way there is I'm not sure.

Enjoy the summer, keep the club reports posted
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on July 24, 2009, 08:41:02 PM
I heard this story from the lads in Killeshandra months ago but I think now is an important time to share it. Last year the leaguers had their dinner dance in the Kilmore. A good night was had by all. After the party was over members of the club found out that the club had been given one or two free rooms by the hotel for the night. Funny enough nobody on the board of Killeshandra heard about these rooms. A little digging uncovered what had happened. Apparently the hotel had contacted one of the management team about the rooms. Instead of this man informing the club so that they might decide what they would do with the rooms (raffle them, give them to a club president etc) this guy instead decided to take the rooms for his own and put up his own family and friends in them. Clearly this did not go down well, friendships were broken as a result within the management team. It was probably a factor in the management team not taking the team this year.

Moving on, If Carr does leave I hope the county board do not put a guy like the one mentioned above in charge of the future of Cavan football cos then we are really scraping the bottom of the barrel.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on July 24, 2009, 10:04:21 PM
Drung beat Drumgoon by a point in Breffni this evening - could have won by more. 9 points to 8. drumgoon forward hit the crossbar with an open goal and no one to beat with 20 seconds left
Castlerahan beat Gowna 1 - 14 to 10 points as well
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on July 24, 2009, 11:56:33 PM
Castlerahan are evidently moving well against albeit an understrength Gowna team.

Didnt expect the drung/drumgoon result.
Then again we and i especially should know you count out Drung at your peril.

Just wanted to pick up on this point of Anglo Celts
Quote from: anglocelt39 on July 24, 2009, 07:14:41 PM


Turn the clock back a short while to 2004. We had a top class management team-Coleman (RIP) and McIlkennon. We were beating Down, We were putting it right up to Tyrone, Derry, Armagh. We had lads that could defend and put themselves about a bit-Rabbitte, Crowe, Crotty. We had options at midfield-McCabe, Mckenna, Paddy Brady (?!); Eamon had Ger Pierson and Mckeever on fire. he plucked Lyng and Gaynor from a minor team and had them looking like part of a serious future for Cavan football. We pushed Down massively in an Under 21 final which could have been won.



That team AC had in question while it didnt anything was at least a 12 point better team than the one we have now.
It was noticeable The amount of Gaels men on the panel

Eoin Eliiot
Darren Rabbitte
Karl Crotty
Eamon Reily
Cathal Collins
Anthony Forde
Sean Johnston
Nicholas Walsh

8 Gaels lads.
The Question i have for the Cavan posters on here is?
Are there too few players from (by far we have to say) the best club team in the county on this current County Panel??
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on July 25, 2009, 12:43:14 AM
Any other late night posters out there?

The biggest question I have to ask is Why the hell RednBlack was listening to Northern Sound in the first place!!!

What went on?

That story about King is shocking and its nothing to do with that but by no means would he get my vote for the job. I really do think TC should get another year.

But while he was the manager, I would let one of the home-grown men mentioned being linked with the top-job manage the u21''s and see how they got on with that first.

The CB situation is bollix. No follower of Cavan football ever knows what there up too and I really dont think they have a clue.

With regards to the Gaels, I know in theory it would make sense to have more of them on the panel, but I'm not too sure. Rabbite, Chesty and Collins are not interested for different reasons,mainly work which is fair enough, and after them there are not too many outstanding candidates you know?Forde is retired and Elliot had his chance years ago....
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on July 25, 2009, 12:52:21 AM
I'm online but it's all too depressing to say too much. King would be worth the entry fee if you were from Monaghan or Meath for some serious slapstick.
Gaels have a winning mentality but who would we have in there. Enda King isn't up to it IMO and has been tried and the rest are mentioned above. Rabbitte of a few years back is the stand out ommission but I haven't seen him play since he returned.
I can hardly bring myself to watch the club games this weekend.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on July 25, 2009, 01:01:23 AM
It just feels like endless doom doesn't it...

They are some crowd in Northern Sound..none of them earn their wages! I presume they did not name the footballers?

I know we were crap this year, at least I can be honest, but the names mentioned to replace him so far would not be good enough to manage the Gaels,,,,now what does that say?

I would nearly try get my own club to say Carr should stay but a homegrown manager should be given the sole responsibility of the U21 and maybe the same management team could be over the Junior Panel, with an emphasis on bringing young lads through and trying out new players in their mid-twenties.

That lets Carr focus fully on his job, however I do think his backroom team should have a bit more geographical spread.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on July 25, 2009, 01:08:59 AM
Quote from: Lawrence of Knockbride on July 25, 2009, 12:52:21 AM
I'm online but it's all too depressing to say too much. King would be worth the entry fee if you were from Monaghan or Meath for some serious slapstick.
Gaels have a winning mentality but who would we have in there. Enda King isn't up to it IMO and has been tried and the rest are mentioned above. Rabbitte of a few years back is the stand out ommission but I haven't seen him play since he returned.
I can hardly bring myself to watch the club games this weekend.
You and a lot more beside ya... there could have been more than 150 at the Drung drumgoon game... which is terrible when there was only one other game on... honestly there was more at the Cootehill Drumgoon junior game a couple of weeks.  Personally without being called a typical cavan man, a tenner is too much... grand for a once off but if you went to a game thursday, friday, took it two on Saturday and even 3 on Sunday - not everyone would want to see that much football but lots would - that would probably cost around 60 - 65 euro which is far too much.  Interest in football in Cavan is at a low web and a flat fee of a fiver into all games might encourage those half thinking about it to chance the fiver and go and watch a game.  A 30 euro once off ticket (for all club championship games that wkend wouldn't be a bad idea either I know I would do it)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on July 25, 2009, 01:15:39 AM
Quote from: Celt_Man on July 25, 2009, 01:08:59 AM
Quote from: Lawrence of Knockbride on July 25, 2009, 12:52:21 AM
I'm online but it's all too depressing to say too much. King would be worth the entry fee if you were from Monaghan or Meath for some serious slapstick.
Gaels have a winning mentality but who would we have in there. Enda King isn't up to it IMO and has been tried and the rest are mentioned above. Rabbitte of a few years back is the stand out ommission but I haven't seen him play since he returned.
I can hardly bring myself to watch the club games this weekend.
You and a lot more beside ya... there could have been more than 150 at the Drung drumgoon game... which is terrible when there was only one other game on... honestly there was more at the Cootehill Drumgoon junior game a couple of weeks.  Personally without being called a typical cavan man, a tenner is too much... grand for a once off but if you went to a game thursday, friday, took it two on Saturday and even 3 on Sunday - not everyone would want to see that much football but lots would - that would probably cost around 60 - 65 euro which is far too much.  Interest in football in Cavan is at a low web and a flat fee of a fiver into all games might encourage those half thinking about it to chance the fiver and go and watch a game.  A 30 euro once off ticket (for all club championship games that wkend wouldn't be a bad idea either I know I would do it)

Not a bad idea Celt man, but what gobshite would go to all those games  ;D

A tenor is far too much in my opinion. If mammy and daddy want to go watch there son play, thats 20. If the dad wants to go to any others games and drive to them expenses soon rack up,,,,they should be encouraging people to come....not scaring them off.

That county board could do with an overhaul. With the recession there are a lot of good unemployed people out there, who might be willing to get involved. It needs freshness and new ideas. I could list off about 20 things that could be done to help Cavan football, but sure why ask people for ideas when you can just be lazy and do it the old-fashioned way.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on July 25, 2009, 01:32:06 AM
Quote from: put-it-up on July 25, 2009, 01:15:39 AM
Quote from: Celt_Man on July 25, 2009, 01:08:59 AM
Quote from: Lawrence of Knockbride on July 25, 2009, 12:52:21 AM
I'm online but it's all too depressing to say too much. King would be worth the entry fee if you were from Monaghan or Meath for some serious slapstick.
Gaels have a winning mentality but who would we have in there. Enda King isn't up to it IMO and has been tried and the rest are mentioned above. Rabbitte of a few years back is the stand out ommission but I haven't seen him play since he returned.
I can hardly bring myself to watch the club games this weekend.
You and a lot more beside ya... there could have been more than 150 at the Drung drumgoon game... which is terrible when there was only one other game on... honestly there was more at the Cootehill Drumgoon junior game a couple of weeks.  Personally without being called a typical cavan man, a tenner is too much... grand for a once off but if you went to a game thursday, friday, took it two on Saturday and even 3 on Sunday - not everyone would want to see that much football but lots would - that would probably cost around 60 - 65 euro which is far too much.  Interest in football in Cavan is at a low web and a flat fee of a fiver into all games might encourage those half thinking about it to chance the fiver and go and watch a game.  A 30 euro once off ticket (for all club championship games that wkend wouldn't be a bad idea either I know I would do it)

Not a bad idea Celt man, but what gobshite would go to all those games  ;D

A tenor is far too much in my opinion. If mammy and daddy want to go watch there son play, thats 20. If the dad wants to go to any others games and drive to them expenses soon rack up,,,,they should be encouraging people to come....not scaring them off.

That county board could do with an overhaul. With the recession there are a lot of good unemployed people out there, who might be willing to get involved. It needs freshness and new ideas. I could list off about 20 things that could be done to help Cavan football, but sure why ask people for ideas when you can just be lazy and do it the old-fashioned way.

Big time if any parents and two older brothers/sisters wanted to go see a two games that's 80 - some chance!!
The problem is most people don't want the bloody job because the total negativity which surrounds the county board - that's the reason pricks like out minor chairman get the job - no one else wants it.
and in case anyone is thinking it, not hiding behind my username calling him that - still mad enough that I'm not sure what I'd do if I meet him at a game over the weekend >:( >:(
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on July 25, 2009, 01:44:14 AM
Quote from: Celt_Man on July 25, 2009, 01:32:06 AM
Quote from: put-it-up on July 25, 2009, 01:15:39 AM
Quote from: Celt_Man on July 25, 2009, 01:08:59 AM
Quote from: Lawrence of Knockbride on July 25, 2009, 12:52:21 AM
I'm online but it's all too depressing to say too much. King would be worth the entry fee if you were from Monaghan or Meath for some serious slapstick.
Gaels have a winning mentality but who would we have in there. Enda King isn't up to it IMO and has been tried and the rest are mentioned above. Rabbitte of a few years back is the stand out ommission but I haven't seen him play since he returned.
I can hardly bring myself to watch the club games this weekend.
You and a lot more beside ya... there could have been more than 150 at the Drung drumgoon game... which is terrible when there was only one other game on... honestly there was more at the Cootehill Drumgoon junior game a couple of weeks.  Personally without being called a typical cavan man, a tenner is too much... grand for a once off but if you went to a game thursday, friday, took it two on Saturday and even 3 on Sunday - not everyone would want to see that much football but lots would - that would probably cost around 60 - 65 euro which is far too much.  Interest in football in Cavan is at a low web and a flat fee of a fiver into all games might encourage those half thinking about it to chance the fiver and go and watch a game.  A 30 euro once off ticket (for all club championship games that wkend wouldn't be a bad idea either I know I would do it)

Not a bad idea Celt man, but what gobshite would go to all those games  ;D

A tenor is far too much in my opinion. If mammy and daddy want to go watch there son play, thats 20. If the dad wants to go to any others games and drive to them expenses soon rack up,,,,they should be encouraging people to come....not scaring them off.

That county board could do with an overhaul. With the recession there are a lot of good unemployed people out there, who might be willing to get involved. It needs freshness and new ideas. I could list off about 20 things that could be done to help Cavan football, but sure why ask people for ideas when you can just be lazy and do it the old-fashioned way.

Big time if any parents and two older brothers/sisters wanted to go see a two games that's 80 - some chance!!
The problem is most people don't want the bloody job because the total negativity which surrounds the county board - that's the reason pricks like out minor chairman get the job - no one else wants it.
and in case anyone is thinking it, not hiding behind my username calling him that - still mad enough that I'm not sure what I'd do if I meet him at a game over the weekend >:( >:(

Carry a blow up baseball bat. That way if you meet him you can let out all your anger and not get arrested for it ;D That is what I used to do with the little brother  ;D
I really do think it is a disgrace charging in a tenor a head to group games..Fair enough if it was the knock-out stages in Breffni you know.

I know it is hard but a whole new mentality needs to be got in there. Imagine if you could get a group between 20 and 40 years of age to liven it up. They should not be thinking what can I get out if being on the county board, rather what could I be doing to help Cavan football.

I would love to sit with those people in a room and say listen, what they f*ck are you people doing!


Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on July 25, 2009, 01:47:21 AM
Quote from: put-it-up on July 25, 2009, 01:44:14 AM
Quote from: Celt_Man on July 25, 2009, 01:32:06 AM
Quote from: put-it-up on July 25, 2009, 01:15:39 AM
Quote from: Celt_Man on July 25, 2009, 01:08:59 AM
Quote from: Lawrence of Knockbride on July 25, 2009, 12:52:21 AM
I'm online but it's all too depressing to say too much. King would be worth the entry fee if you were from Monaghan or Meath for some serious slapstick.
Gaels have a winning mentality but who would we have in there. Enda King isn't up to it IMO and has been tried and the rest are mentioned above. Rabbitte of a few years back is the stand out ommission but I haven't seen him play since he returned.
I can hardly bring myself to watch the club games this weekend.
You and a lot more beside ya... there could have been more than 150 at the Drung drumgoon game... which is terrible when there was only one other game on... honestly there was more at the Cootehill Drumgoon junior game a couple of weeks.  Personally without being called a typical cavan man, a tenner is too much... grand for a once off but if you went to a game thursday, friday, took it two on Saturday and even 3 on Sunday - not everyone would want to see that much football but lots would - that would probably cost around 60 - 65 euro which is far too much.  Interest in football in Cavan is at a low web and a flat fee of a fiver into all games might encourage those half thinking about it to chance the fiver and go and watch a game.  A 30 euro once off ticket (for all club championship games that wkend wouldn't be a bad idea either I know I would do it)

Not a bad idea Celt man, but what gobshite would go to all those games  ;D

A tenor is far too much in my opinion. If mammy and daddy want to go watch there son play, thats 20. If the dad wants to go to any others games and drive to them expenses soon rack up,,,,they should be encouraging people to come....not scaring them off.

That county board could do with an overhaul. With the recession there are a lot of good unemployed people out there, who might be willing to get involved. It needs freshness and new ideas. I could list off about 20 things that could be done to help Cavan football, but sure why ask people for ideas when you can just be lazy and do it the old-fashioned way.

Big time if any parents and two older brothers/sisters wanted to go see a two games that's 80 - some chance!!
The problem is most people don't want the bloody job because the total negativity which surrounds the county board - that's the reason pricks like out minor chairman get the job - no one else wants it.
and in case anyone is thinking it, not hiding behind my username calling him that - still mad enough that I'm not sure what I'd do if I meet him at a game over the weekend >:( >:(

Carry a blow up baseball bat. That way if you meet him you can let out all your anger and not get arrested for it ;D That is what I used to do with the little brother  ;D
I really do think it is a disgrace charging in a tenor a head to group games..Fair enough if it was the knock-out stages in Breffni you know.

I know it is hard but a whole new mentality needs to be got in there. Imagine if you could get a group between 20 and 40 years of age to liven it up. They should not be thinking what can I get out if being on the county board, rather what could I be doing to help Cavan football.

I would love to sit with those people in a room and say listen, what they f*ck are you people doing!




I get them in a room - there'll be no talking done... Honest to jaysus when the Under 16 players themselves hear the draw, they'll be liable to do anything
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on July 25, 2009, 01:54:38 AM
they really don't give a shit, oh we have power and don't care about you...but the thing is who exactly are these people. They are like some secret group that people know of but are not sure who are member and what exactly are they doing...Are they good or evil? And what is the point of a master fixtures if it is not stuck too..like for f**k sake

you have an idea there Celt Man, perhaps the U16's could kick a bit of sense into them  ;D

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on July 25, 2009, 12:45:55 PM
Just saw a story in the story about 3 lads being at Oxegen before the Cavan game..

Just when I thought our reputation could not get anymore embarrasing
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on July 25, 2009, 01:13:32 PM
Quote from: put-it-up on July 25, 2009, 12:45:55 PM
Just saw a story in the story about 3 lads being at Oxegen before the Cavan game..

Just when I thought our reputation could not get anymore embarrasing

Where did you see this? Is there a link available?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Drung on July 25, 2009, 03:14:04 PM
QuoteJust saw a story in the story about 3 lads being at Oxegen before the Cavan game..

My best guess at what you're trying to say is: Just saw a story in the story newspaper about 3 lads being at Oxegen before the Cavan Wicklow game?
Is it true Carr is for the boot? Quick fix.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on July 25, 2009, 03:27:23 PM
Quote from: Drung on July 25, 2009, 03:14:04 PM
QuoteJust saw a story in the story about 3 lads being at Oxegen before the Cavan game..

My best guess at what you're trying to say is: Just saw a story in the story newspaper about 3 lads being at Oxegen before the Cavan Wicklow game?
Is it true Carr is for the boot? Quick fix.


My bad Drung, was typing as I was runnin out the door!

Yeah anyway that is in the Star on the bottom right of a right sided page. Why would the county PRO release that information. Talk about undermining Carr in the public sphere.

and I just heard that Carr was voted out by the executive comitee...Absolute bull-shit

Back to square one
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on July 25, 2009, 03:30:27 PM
its on page 69
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: handballer09 on July 25, 2009, 05:20:25 PM
Carr's tenure nears end

http://www.anglocelt.ie/sport/localgaa/articles/2009/07/25/389817-carrs-tenure-nears-end/
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on July 25, 2009, 09:08:27 PM
Just back from watching Lavey ease past Killeshandra. As we were set the task of finding new talent, and although he's well known, how has Finbar Jordan not been called up? Every time I see him he's class. Size is against him I'll admit but surely he should be in there. I heard Gaynor & Rabbitte got the line early in the other game but didn't catch the score. I think Denn were winning easy too against Kingscourt which is sort of a shock isn't it? Drumalee & Ballyhaise drew so it's 2 from 3 in that group.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on July 25, 2009, 09:17:33 PM
Lavey bet Killeshandra by 7 or 8 points.Declan McKiernan was missing,apparently he went off on holidays, for their biggest game of the year. ::)
Drumalee and Ballyhaise drew.
Gaels hammered Ballinagh,Gaynor and Rabbitte got gate after 3 minutes.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4sam on July 25, 2009, 09:20:40 PM
Lawrence, Finbar is a good player alright but nowhere near what is required for county football. I seen him against us about 3 weeks ago and i actually thought he was terrible, I couldn't believe how far down hill he had gone. He was about a stone over weight as well. Any other results lads??

Does anyone think the gaels will be stopped??
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on July 25, 2009, 09:22:43 PM
Quote from: boojangles on July 25, 2009, 09:17:33 PM
Lavey bet Killeshandra by 7 or 8 points.Declan McKiernan was missing,apparently he went off on holidays, for their biggest game of the year. ::)
Drumalee and Ballyhaise drew.
Gaels hammered Ballinagh,Gaynor and Rabbitte got gate after 3 minutes.
Heard that alright Boojangles. Booked it about 2 weeks ago knowing the game was on while others had rearrangd theirs. How much did Gaels win by?
C4S, he is a little overweight although he's small so it might show up worse. I disagree that he's well short (in quality). Compared to who? Brides, Hannon, Podge. Bring him in and get him fit I say.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on July 25, 2009, 09:47:54 PM
Kill beat Laragh by three points with no injury time points sealing it for them... Laragh were looking good till they had a man sent off with about 12 minutes to go.  Denn won well too... Heard Bailirboro won fairly handy against Ballymachugh
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on July 26, 2009, 11:48:38 AM
If Denn won last night, it looks like I'm not going to their games! 

Lucky I was down the country but I'm not superstitious.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on July 26, 2009, 12:21:07 PM
Yeah, i heard the county PRO is trying to get into the chairman's seat. I think it is about time there was a reshuffle in there. I'd be happy enough with Smith staying but I would like the rest of them gone.

Bboro won easily yesterday. Ballymachugh's full back line was awful and just leaked goals.  5-10 to 2-2 i think it was.

Swad cruised past Shercock in the game before.

13e into Breffni....Clearly they are taking the piss
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Drung on July 26, 2009, 04:07:50 PM
I heard Cullivan had a great game? ???
Who did all the scoring for the Gaels, I heard Forde was excellent.

On a sidenote, 5ft 4" and about 7 stone Paddy McEntee scored 0-2 from play against Drumgoon for Drung on Friday night!!! Fair play to the lad.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on July 26, 2009, 06:14:24 PM
Quote from: RednBlack on July 26, 2009, 05:46:25 PM
Quote from: put-it-up on July 26, 2009, 12:21:07 PM
Yeah, i heard the county PRO is trying to get into the chairman's seat. I think it is about time there was a reshuffle in there. I'd be happy enough with Smith staying but I would like the rest of them gone.

Bboro won easily yesterday. Ballymachugh's full back line was awful and just leaked goals.  5-10 to 2-2 i think it was.

Swad cruised past Shercock in the game before.

13e into Breffni....Clearly they are taking the piss
The extra 3 euros is to pay off TC!!!!!!!!

I agree put it up.....I believe Phil Smith is a good man but there is a shower in there that needs to be shifted..........latest news I heard was there was a major crush last week in the Breffni Park office with CB members fighting over U2 tickets.........definitely no line on the horizon with these folks.

To pay TC off they would need to charge in more than 13e..sure there was only about 100 at the game!

Yeah I think Phil is a genuine Cavan supporter and wants the best, but others in their are on ego trips. Gillick putting the Oxegen story into the public sphere is a disgrace. Should be ran out for that but sure he will prob end up as Chairman. Bloody politics.

From what I hear, a new secretary would not do any harm either.

I have spoken to a few people about this and they all came back with one name they would like to see get it. He is from your own club RnB.


Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Drung on July 26, 2009, 06:30:05 PM
QuoteGillick putting the Oxegen story into the public sphere is a disgrace

We don't know this for sure put-it-up (I don't anyway, maybe you have heard something?). It could well have been that someone from The Star rang him having heard it, it was common knowledge since the Wicklow game.
A clear-out of the board would be no harm all the same. We need strong leadership from the top and there are very few strong leaders there at the minute. Then again, who is there out there?
Cliques are unhealthy, be it in business or sport, in my opinion.

Getting away from all of this negativity, anyone hear of any good performances by new players thus far? Sean Reilly was very good for the Gaels I have been told.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on July 26, 2009, 06:37:04 PM
Quote from: Drung on July 26, 2009, 06:30:05 PM
QuoteGillick putting the Oxegen story into the public sphere is a disgrace

We don't know this for sure put-it-up (I don't anyway, maybe you have heard something?). It could well have been that someone from The Star rang him having heard it, it was common knowledge since the Wicklow game.
A clear-out of the board would be no harm all the same. We need strong leadership from the top and there are very few strong leaders there at the minute. Then again, who is there out there?
Cliques are unhealthy, be it in business or sport, in my opinion.

Getting away from all of this negativity, anyone hear of any good performances by new players thus far? Sean Reilly was very good for the Gaels I have been told.


Yeah perhaps I phrased my point wrong. But in the Star is said the County PRO said it on Northern sound. If it is true, the lads that done it should be given some kick up the back-side!

The Bailieborough midfielder Ollie Kelleher was very impressive in the air and was a good bit over 6 foot.

Just heading down to Knockbride and Cootehill now. Want to see how John Tierney gets on. Will let ya's know.

Ramor kicked two injury time goals to draw with CUCU's. There was a masssive brawl involving at least 28 lads  ;D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on July 26, 2009, 09:26:55 PM
Enda something, can't think of his surname..

Knockbride -v- Cootehill was  a poor game. No real stand out performances, Larry got a few points.

Tierney and McCutcheon played midfield, neither made a big impression.

So we have all our club-games going on and no county manager watching them. Super stuff from the CB.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on July 26, 2009, 09:31:09 PM
By the way, does anybody know what happens if teams finish on the same amount of points in a group?Is it scoring difference, head to head result or a playoff?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Babe Ruth 47 on July 27, 2009, 03:06:46 AM
Quote from: put-it-up on July 26, 2009, 09:26:55 PM
Enda something, can't think of his surname..

Knockbride -v- Cootehill was  a poor game. No real stand out performances, Larry got a few points.

Tierney and McCutcheon played midfield, neither made a big impression.

So we have all our club-games going on and no county manager watching them. Super stuff from the CB.



Mulvany???
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Babe Ruth 47 on July 27, 2009, 10:00:24 AM
Quote from: RednBlack on July 27, 2009, 08:45:24 AM
Yeah Enda Mulvany is our PRO and Juv Sec. God I would hate to see the club lose him to the CB. He has changed a lot of attitudes around our place. He would be way too professional for that lot. Don't think they could handle his work ethic!!!  ;D The man never stops. He helps out a lot with Coaching and Games and was the guy who organised and ran that World record thing. He is a massive GAA man. Developed the whole skills blitz idea as well. Would fairly shake things up but I don't think the club would let him go.

Now RednBlack, self praise is no praise ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on July 27, 2009, 10:36:46 AM
Quote from: put-it-up on July 26, 2009, 09:31:09 PM
By the way, does anybody know what happens if teams finish on the same amount of points in a group?Is it scoring difference, head to head result or a playoff?

Id say you will beat Drumgoon so wont have to worry bout that.  Id imagine it will end up in playoffs though.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Drung on July 27, 2009, 03:03:24 PM
Did Enda Mulvaney go for the full-time secretary's job when it was up recently?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on July 27, 2009, 03:13:27 PM
Quote from: Drung on July 27, 2009, 03:03:24 PM
Did Enda Mulvaney go for the full-time secretary's job when it was up recently?

Yep, and I was told that despite being the most impressive of the interviewed applicants he didn't get it. Funmy enough the man that did get it had the least impressive CV. Tis all who you know isn't it?

Is it really play-offs? We are just going to end up a loaf of extra games! We will still be playing in Oct ;D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on July 27, 2009, 03:17:25 PM
Quote from: Drung on July 26, 2009, 04:07:50 PM
I heard Cullivan had a great game? ???
Who did all the scoring for the Gaels, I heard Forde was excellent.

On a sidenote, 5ft 4" and about 7 stone Paddy McEntee scored 0-2 from play against Drumgoon for Drung on Friday night!!! Fair play to the lad.

He gave our county corner back a bit of a roasting in fact - not a bad wee player
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on July 27, 2009, 03:34:04 PM
Quote from: Celt_Man on July 27, 2009, 03:17:25 PM
Quote from: Drung on July 26, 2009, 04:07:50 PM
I heard Cullivan had a great game? ???
Who did all the scoring for the Gaels, I heard Forde was excellent.

On a sidenote, 5ft 4" and about 7 stone Paddy McEntee scored 0-2 from play against Drumgoon for Drung on Friday night!!! Fair play to the lad.

He gave our county corner back a bit of a roasting in fact - not a bad wee player

Who played well for Drung i have been away and havent being talking to anyone.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on July 27, 2009, 03:37:55 PM
Mickey McEntee played well marking Fannin, Philly Monaghan went through a site of work around the middle of the field, Alan Curran kicked a few lovely scores I suppose the two O'Rourke's had fair games up front too. the full back finbarr reilly had a serious game too
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on July 27, 2009, 03:39:23 PM
Quote from: Celt_Man on July 27, 2009, 03:37:55 PM
Mickey McEntee played well marking Fannin, Philly Monaghan went through a site of work around the middle of the field, Alan Curran kicked a few lovely scores I suppose the two O'Rourke's had fair games up front too. the full back finbarr reilly had a serious game too

Thanks
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on July 27, 2009, 07:14:47 PM
Quote from: Celt_Man on July 27, 2009, 03:37:55 PM
Mickey McEntee played well marking Fannin, Philly Monaghan went through a site of work around the middle of the field, Alan Curran kicked a few lovely scores I suppose the two O'Rourke's had fair games up front too. the full back finbarr reilly had a serious game too

Niall O Rourke is a big addition for Drung,Great to see him back playing after being out for so long.His free-taking was very impressive.Drung were the hungrier team and that was the difference.Was very disappointed in Drumgoon.Will be suprised if they make it past a Semi-Final stage,going on that performance.

Lavey looked very impressive against Killeshandra.even without Sean Maguire who had to go off in the 1st half. Stephen?? Jordan at midfield was outstanding,while Joey was very solid and the other Jordan at Full-Forward,Darren?? was excellent also.They seem to have rectified some of their wayward shooting as some of their point taking was top drawer.Lavey were by far the better team and it sets up an exciting clash with them and Ballyhaise.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on July 27, 2009, 07:23:27 PM
Quote from: boojangles on July 27, 2009, 07:14:47 PM
Quote from: Celt_Man on July 27, 2009, 03:37:55 PM
Mickey McEntee played well marking Fannin, Philly Monaghan went through a site of work around the middle of the field, Alan Curran kicked a few lovely scores I suppose the two O'Rourke's had fair games up front too. the full back finbarr reilly had a serious game too

Niall O Rourke is a big addition for Drung,Great to see him back playing after being out for so long.His free-taking was very impressive.Drung were the hungrier team and that was the difference.Was very disappointed in Drumgoon.Will be suprised if they make it past a Semi-Final stage,going on that performance.

Lavey looked very impressive against Killeshandra.even without Sean Maguire who had to go off in the 1st half. Stephen?? Jordan at midfield was outstanding,while Joey was very solid and the other Jordan at Full-Forward,Darren?? was excellent also.They seem to have rectified some of their wayward shooting as some of their point taking was top drawer.Lavey were by far the better team and it sets up an exciting clash with them and Ballyhaise.
Why are people always talking about Drumgoon in the championship? Since they were back in the Intermediate they haven't got past the quarter finals - they mightn't even make it that far this year
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on July 27, 2009, 07:31:02 PM
Quote from: Celt_Man on July 27, 2009, 07:23:27 PM
Quote from: boojangles on July 27, 2009, 07:14:47 PM
Quote from: Celt_Man on July 27, 2009, 03:37:55 PM
Mickey McEntee played well marking Fannin, Philly Monaghan went through a site of work around the middle of the field, Alan Curran kicked a few lovely scores I suppose the two O'Rourke's had fair games up front too. the full back finbarr reilly had a serious game too

Niall O Rourke is a big addition for Drung,Great to see him back playing after being out for so long.His free-taking was very impressive.Drung were the hungrier team and that was the difference.Was very disappointed in Drumgoon.Will be suprised if they make it past a Semi-Final stage,going on that performance.

Lavey looked very impressive against Killeshandra.even without Sean Maguire who had to go off in the 1st half. Stephen?? Jordan at midfield was outstanding,while Joey was very solid and the other Jordan at Full-Forward,Darren?? was excellent also.They seem to have rectified some of their wayward shooting as some of their point taking was top drawer.Lavey were by far the better team and it sets up an exciting clash with them and Ballyhaise.
Why are people always talking about Drumgoon in the championship? Since they were back in the Intermediate they haven't got past the quarter finals - they mightn't even make it that far this year

They will hav to beat BBoro now to go through.havent seen Bailieboro dis year but they seem to b going well.I expected Drumgoon to beat Drung TBH,they beat them in the League only last week.But as we all know Championship is a different animal altogether.Drumgoon at times just didnt look interested. How did Knockbride look Celt Man? seen them against Drumlane and they didnt really impress.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on July 27, 2009, 07:42:49 PM
Quote from: boojangles on July 27, 2009, 07:31:02 PM
Quote from: Celt_Man on July 27, 2009, 07:23:27 PM
Quote from: boojangles on July 27, 2009, 07:14:47 PM
Quote from: Celt_Man on July 27, 2009, 03:37:55 PM
Mickey McEntee played well marking Fannin, Philly Monaghan went through a site of work around the middle of the field, Alan Curran kicked a few lovely scores I suppose the two O'Rourke's had fair games up front too. the full back finbarr reilly had a serious game too

Niall O Rourke is a big addition for Drung,Great to see him back playing after being out for so long.His free-taking was very impressive.Drung were the hungrier team and that was the difference.Was very disappointed in Drumgoon.Will be suprised if they make it past a Semi-Final stage,going on that performance.

Lavey looked very impressive against Killeshandra.even without Sean Maguire who had to go off in the 1st half. Stephen?? Jordan at midfield was outstanding,while Joey was very solid and the other Jordan at Full-Forward,Darren?? was excellent also.They seem to have rectified some of their wayward shooting as some of their point taking was top drawer.Lavey were by far the better team and it sets up an exciting clash with them and Ballyhaise.
Why are people always talking about Drumgoon in the championship? Since they were back in the Intermediate they haven't got past the quarter finals - they mightn't even make it that far this year

They will hav to beat BBoro now to go through.havent seen Bailieboro dis year but they seem to b going well.I expected Drumgoon to beat Drung TBH,they beat them in the League only last week.But as we all know Championship is a different animal altogether.Drumgoon at times just didnt look interested. How did Knockbride look Celt Man? seen them against Drumlane and they didnt really impress.
The league result went against them big time - have a feeling they thought they would just have to turn up and get the win... Knockbride looked good and not so good at the same time... we never got going - played against a strong enough wind in the first half with Larry and Peter kicking some tidy scores then our captain got wrongly sent off - ref reacted to the knockbride management making a big deal out of a yellow card challenge at best. We never got close enough in the second half to trouble them - Peter kicked some lovely frees against the wind off the ground
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on July 27, 2009, 10:50:41 PM
So yous have to win your last game against Drumlane to progress? Should b an interesting one considering the past history between the 2 clubs!
I wonder is there any word from the meeting tonight yet? Just heard there who the Oxygen Four are! Im sure people hav already heard who most of them are anyway. People can say what they like about amateur players should b allowed do what they like but at the end of the day I think it is a disgrace and them boys need to hav a serious look at themselves.If my club was playin the same weekend,I wouldnt dream of going near a gig the day before.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: handballer09 on July 27, 2009, 10:57:29 PM
'Stay of execution' for Carr

http://www.anglocelt.ie/sport/localgaa/articles/2009/07/27/389821-reprieve-for-carr/
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on July 27, 2009, 11:20:27 PM
Quote from: boojangles on July 27, 2009, 10:50:41 PM
So yous have to win your last game against Drumlane to progress? Should b an interesting one considering the past history between the 2 clubs!
I wonder is there any word from the meeting tonight yet? Just heard there who the Oxygen Four are! Im sure people hav already heard who most of them are anyway. People can say what they like about amateur players should b allowed do what they like but at the end of the day I think it is a disgrace and them boys need to hav a serious look at themselves.If my club was playin the same weekend,I wouldnt dream of going near a gig the day before.
Yea we need to win while a draw would be enough for them... Should make for an interesting one alright!!
Still haven't heard who the Oxegen Four are - wasn't really following it with the club games at the wkend, let me get this straight they were there the day before they were playing Wicklow - did they stay the night there??
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on July 27, 2009, 11:47:28 PM
Quote from: Celt_Man on July 27, 2009, 11:20:27 PM
Quote from: boojangles on July 27, 2009, 10:50:41 PM
So yous have to win your last game against Drumlane to progress? Should b an interesting one considering the past history between the 2 clubs!
I wonder is there any word from the meeting tonight yet? Just heard there who the Oxygen Four are! Im sure people hav already heard who most of them are anyway. People can say what they like about amateur players should b allowed do what they like but at the end of the day I think it is a disgrace and them boys need to hav a serious look at themselves.If my club was playin the same weekend,I wouldnt dream of going near a gig the day before.
Yea we need to win while a draw would be enough for them... Should make for an interesting one alright!!
Still haven't heard who the Oxegen Four are - wasn't really following it with the club games at the wkend, let me get this straight they were there the day before they were playing Wicklow - did they stay the night there??
One of them stayed in Dublin I believe.Not sure about the other 3.I sincerely doubt that any of them camped out,if they did then they need their heads examined. Ah Im gone past caring anymore,Cavan football has been dragged through the mud again. It was on RTE news there that Carr will b in the job for at least another week as some clubs couldnt vote on it,as they hadnt a mandate from their members,which is fair enough.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on July 28, 2009, 12:40:04 AM
Quote from: RednBlack on July 25, 2009, 10:07:28 PM
Ballyhaiseman or Senor BHM we should call you. That was like a Barca Madrid derby in our place today!!! Costa del Crubany in the damp!! Them Drumalee boys didn't let ye get moving at all. Thought Cullivan was poor. The young boy needs to be left alone and not be getting those Daddy pep talks/dressing downs after games.

Thought there was going to be  Ballinagh incident at half time with the pile up

Yeh the Spanish students were there supporting us,
I didnt notice them much,then again you wouldnt really during a game situation.
I thought Ray was one of our better performers to be fair,even though he did kick a few frees wide.It was a poor game overall,neither team got going.
Tough game now against Lavey,who were terribly impressive against the Leaguers.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on July 28, 2009, 03:09:36 AM
I dunno lads, it all comes down to who has the four and the six. Like if there was a couple of pound in it for me I would do it.

Imagine going all in on pair of aces and not winning - absolute joke.

And Carr thinks he has it bad....
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Blue06 on July 28, 2009, 10:04:27 AM
IMO Carr should leave now rather than drag this on.

However what I find even more shocking is this U turn by the executive.

Last Wednesday they apparently voted 19 to 1 to remove Carr and then at the weekend under a 'secret ballot' they vote to keep him in. ::)

Why a secret ballot?
Do these people have no backbone to say what they think?
Last Wed. did they simply row in behind those making the noise?






Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on July 28, 2009, 10:18:18 AM
Its a circus over at the CB - from hoganstand.


Carr's fate still hangs in the balance

Cavan manager Tommy Carr
28 July 2009


by Shane Corrigan

Tommy Carr remains manager of the Cavan senior football team for another week at least after delegates at last night's county board meeting requested more time to seek a mandate from their clubs on a proposed vote of no confidence.

At the meeting, chairman Philip Smith revealed to the floor that both he and secretary Liam McCabe had approached Carr last Friday and suggested he resign his position with immediate effect after the executive of the county board had taken a vote two days previous, which suggested the majority were in favour of a new senior team management.

However, Carr refused to step down and a secret ballot before last night's meeting in the Kilmore Hotel saw the same executive committee make a u-turn on their stance of five days previous, in favour of the current manager being allowed to carry on with the second year of his three-year term.

When put to the floor, there were a number of negative comments made by club delegates, and soon after a vote of no confidence in the team management was proposed and seconded.

However, other delegates were unwilling to put forth a show of hands to the executive on the matter until receiving a mandate from their respective clubs.

Now, and over the next seven days, clubs in Cavan will decide the future of the team management's position, as a decisive meeting will take place next Tuesday, August 4, where one representative from each of the 40 clubs in the county will be asked to vote 'for' or 'against' Carr and his management team continuing on in their tenure.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on July 28, 2009, 11:09:26 AM
Quote from: cavan4ever on July 28, 2009, 10:27:07 AM
Quote from: Blue06 on July 28, 2009, 10:04:27 AM
IMO Carr should leave now rather than drag this on.


I agree with this it would look better on Carr if he left now and it is not possible for him to keep working here after all this anyway. 

On the oxygen 3 or 4 or however many there are i named one that camped out on the thursday night and then went to dublin on the friday night.  Any of these players who were there should not be allowed play for Cavan for at least the next year.  Let them go to what ever concerts they want next year.
I know Barry Watters was there, would he still be a member of the panel even though he is on crutches and out for the year.


I heard Carr on Northern Sound this morning with Joe Finnegan. He came across well TBH,but I just don't know anymore if the whole situation can be rectified. I read a bit about what Liam Bradleys approach was when he first came in in Antrim this year.He took no shit,and pulled boys off Physio Tables.He gave everyone an ultimatum.Is it too late for Carr to take this strict approach??
How come he didnt do this from the start?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Drung on July 28, 2009, 11:54:08 AM
Two of the three names you have listed are wrong Boojangles, you'd want to be careful what you write on here.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: jimjim on July 28, 2009, 12:09:52 PM
Think Rory Dunne was one of the players that was at Oxygen !!!!?!?!?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on July 28, 2009, 12:56:30 PM
Quote from: jimjim on July 28, 2009, 12:09:52 PM
Think Rory Dunne was one of the players that was at Oxygen !!!!?!?!?
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100% correct
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on July 28, 2009, 02:20:50 PM
Quote from: Drung on July 28, 2009, 11:54:08 AM
Two of the three names you have listed are wrong Boojangles, you'd want to be careful what you write on here.

I know who my source is,and if he has it wrong then the County Board has it wrong, put it that way.What makes you so sure? Rory Dunne was mentioned already.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on July 28, 2009, 03:10:48 PM
We are a farce!

What happened that made them change their minds?

Lads, I know a lot of key players would like Carr to be given another chance to rectify the situation..Should their opinions not be listened too?

And i really just can't understand lads campin out at Oxegen the night before a game. If a lad from my club team done that I would slap the head of him.

Surely other players would have known what they were up, and should have raised it...Pressure comes from within remember
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: the salmon of knowledge on July 28, 2009, 03:56:36 PM
2 of the 3 names are wrong bogangles...
and in any case, was cahill a member of the panel at that stage??
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on July 28, 2009, 04:17:20 PM
Cahill came on against Wicklow.

I took the names down.Obviously wouldnt hav put them up if I for one minute questioned where it came from.Somethings not right though.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: jonb_cúl on July 28, 2009, 04:22:23 PM
Well  lads, Another "newbie" for ye all to get to know!!!! I'm a long time listener, first time poster.

With regards to the Cavan situation, the CCB needs to take a good long look at themselves in fairness (like that's going to happen). If we were to look at them as if they were managing a company they large majority of them would be sacked by now. As they have full time staff working in there now why the hell shouldn't we ask for some sort of accountability.

Rant OVER

  :(
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on July 28, 2009, 04:32:03 PM
Quote from: the salmon of knowledge on July 28, 2009, 03:56:36 PM
2 of the 3 names are wrong bogangles...
and in any case, was cahill a member of the panel at that stage??
Of course he was  sure didn't he come on against Wicklow... the whole thing is a mess as others have pointed out if a fella from your team did that ahead of a championship match you'd be having words with him about it
One of the biggest laughs I have had over the whole thing is the complete 180 the County Board did over wanting Carr out between Wednesday and last night!! There hilarious
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on July 28, 2009, 05:04:13 PM
Quote from: Celt_Man on July 28, 2009, 04:32:03 PM
Quote from: the salmon of knowledge on July 28, 2009, 03:56:36 PM
2 of the 3 names are wrong bogangles...
and in any case, was cahill a member of the panel at that stage??
Of course he was  sure didn't he come on against Wicklow... the whole thing is a mess as others have pointed out if a fella from your team did that ahead of a championship match you'd be having words with him about it
One of the biggest laughs I have had over the whole thing is the complete 180 the County Board did over wanting Carr out between Wednesday and last night!! There hilarious

Read in the Daily Mirror that Carr was asked to resign but refused.  Would there be finanical gain for him if he was sacked ?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on July 28, 2009, 07:01:58 PM
Celt Man I don't know if you were the Cootehill delegate the other nite at the Minor Board meeting but I heard that the abuse Mr Argue gave to his own club delegate was a scandal,he said if it had have been him he would have got up and split him. I know of a fella that said he would definitely run against Mr Argue next year if he tries to get back in the Chair.

JonB Cul your dead rite about the County Board,I just despair of them at this stage. the crowds at some of the Championship matches over the weekend was embarassing. As mentioned already- Why not advertise all Championship games for a Fiver admission? Try and create some sort of a buzz about Club Football. You can bet there was no representative of the Senior Management at alot of Championship games also this weekend. Whole lot is a joke.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on July 28, 2009, 07:30:37 PM
Quote from: cavan4ever on July 28, 2009, 05:04:13 PM
Quote from: Celt_Man on July 28, 2009, 04:32:03 PM
Quote from: the salmon of knowledge on July 28, 2009, 03:56:36 PM
2 of the 3 names are wrong bogangles...
and in any case, was cahill a member of the panel at that stage??
Of course he was  sure didn't he come on against Wicklow... the whole thing is a mess as others have pointed out if a fella from your team did that ahead of a championship match you'd be having words with him about it
One of the biggest laughs I have had over the whole thing is the complete 180 the County Board did over wanting Carr out between Wednesday and last night!! There hilarious

Read in the Daily Mirror that Carr was asked to resign but refused.  Would there be finanical gain for him if he was sacked ?

Not sure, I doubt he would have an official contract you know? Would whatever he is being paid not just be a gentleman's agreement!

Really don't understand why they wanted him out and know they dont...maybe they realised no one would take it! And sure they should of asked around for players and clubs opinions in the first place...DUh!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: the salmon of knowledge on July 28, 2009, 07:35:33 PM
Quote from: boojangles on July 28, 2009, 04:17:20 PM
Cahill came on against Wicklow.

I took the names down.Obviously wouldnt hav put them up if I for one minute questioned where it came from.Somethings not right though.


fair enough, i know your not writing it for the sake of it... but i know 1 of them lads was not at it as i asked him.

on another note it has just came to my attention that after training monday night we had a quick meeting reguarding the Carr situation and a vote was cast.
some people spoke at the meeting and everyone was fit to voice their opinion if they so chose.
the vote was a show of hands in which 90% voted for Carr to stay.
the poeple pushing for Carr to go were, lets say more senior members of the club.
heres the problem, when our lads went down monday night, they dismissed the vote and went with their views and said our club would be voting no...
can this vote be counted??
is their any precident to this??

honestly this whole situation is making a laughing stock of the county, and could do serious damage to the IC team.
if they want to have a public vote it should be for county board officals
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on July 28, 2009, 08:08:49 PM
Quote from: the salmon of knowledge on July 28, 2009, 07:35:33 PM
Quote from: boojangles on July 28, 2009, 04:17:20 PM
Cahill came on against Wicklow.

I took the names down.Obviously wouldnt hav put them up if I for one minute questioned where it came from.Somethings not right though.


fair enough, i know your not writing it for the sake of it... but i know 1 of them lads was not at it as i asked him.

on another note it has just came to my attention that after training monday night we had a quick meeting reguarding the Carr situation and a vote was cast.
some people spoke at the meeting and everyone was fit to voice their opinion if they so chose.
the vote was a show of hands in which 90% voted for Carr to stay.
the poeple pushing for Carr to go were, lets say more senior members of the club.
heres the problem, when our lads went down monday night, they dismissed the vote and went with their views and said our club would be voting no...
can this vote be counted??
is their any precident to this??

honestly this whole situation is making a laughing stock of the county, and could do serious damage to the IC team.
if they want to have a public vote it should be for county board officals

Its time to get super nanny in to sort out our county board.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on July 28, 2009, 08:10:12 PM
The GAA is amateur and so can not have a written contract with a manager, therefore there can be no case of Carr getting a pay off to leave.

Salmon - That is a scandal but is typical. I remember when I was playing with the Leaguers there was an AGM every year and decisions were took but the real AGM happened afterwards in the pub when 3 or 4 lads who knew best decided what was done. I remember a famous case where we instructed 2 Co board delegates to vote a certain way at a CB meeting and they decided to do the opposite.

I hope Carr stays at this stage and learns that he has to wield a big axe left right and center.

I didn't push hard on the Oxygen thing but for me there is something wrong when a player like Dunne, about to get his first senior championship start, decides to go to Oxygen. All I can say if I was him I would no way be doing that. I seriuosly doubt if that would be tolerated at the Tyrones & Kerrys. It is also a very bad sign when young players are doing this as it shows the trend is going the wrong way.

What is obvious is that our CB is a joke and I hope that if nothing else clubs are taking note of this. How the hell do committee do a total 180 turn and then the chairman asks carr to quit, on whose authority does he do that? Boys are we some joke. Then there is King waiting in the shadow to put the icing on the cake.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: jonb_cúl on July 28, 2009, 08:25:29 PM
Quote from: boojangles on July 28, 2009, 07:01:58 PM
Celt Man I don't know if you were the Cootehill delegate the other nite at the Minor Board meeting but I heard that the abuse Mr Argue gave to his own club delegate was a scandal,he said if it had have been him he would have got up and split him. I know of a fella that said he would definitely run against Mr Argue next year if he tries to get back in the Chair.

JonB Cul your dead rite about the County Board,I just despair of them at this stage. the crowds at some of the Championship matches over the weekend was embarassing. As mentioned already- Why not advertise all Championship games for a Fiver admission? Try and create some sort of a buzz about Club Football. You can bet there was no representative of the Senior Management at alot of Championship games also this weekend. Whole lot is a joke.

Listen Boojangles if they can't get their CB meetings right, now they're hardly going to care too much about the senior club championship within this county of ours!! A little bit of marketing, maybe incorporate the summer camp kids somehow with skill games at half time, the local press surely would allow some sort of advertising in their sport pages. Having said that, I was at the lacken vrs Killygarry & to be fair there was a large enough crowd. Don't know what it was like around the rest of the county thou.

Getting back to the Carr situation, only in this county would something so important be allowed to drag on & on without addressing it. Like to allow it go to the national press, allow involved parties (Both sides now) speak openingly & still do nothing shows they're either not up to the job or a total lack of professionalism or they simply don't care!!!
My our view at this stage is the latter, think about it for second, all that the county board personnel seem to do year in year out is play a little musical chairs every December!!!! its time the majority of positions were freshened up with new faces. the only place these new faces can come from is the club, but then again if we are to believe the poor communication path between CB and clubs this "fresh face" approach will be very diffcult to achieve!!!

CHRIST THIS FORUM CAN GET YOU GOING, SORRY LADS FOR GOING ON A BIT THERE!!!! :-X
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: jonb_cúl on July 28, 2009, 08:36:12 PM
Any of you lads be viewing the HS forum? Just curious what everyones thoughts are on a certain Breffni Park employee voicing his views very publicly.

Just wondering your thoughts is all!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :-\
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on July 28, 2009, 09:25:37 PM
Quote from: jonb_cúl on July 28, 2009, 08:36:12 PM
Any of you lads be viewing the HS forum? Just curious what everyones thoughts are on a certain Breffni Park employee voicing his views very publicly.

Just wondering your thoughts is all!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :-\

Sean o Rinn? Yeh, was reading what he had to say. Not too impressed with the management or players and didn't have a lot to say good about the selectors. Of course it could be someone using his name.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on July 28, 2009, 09:52:52 PM
Quote from: jonb_cúl on July 28, 2009, 04:22:23 PM
Well  lads, Another "newbie" for ye all to get to know!!!! I'm a long time listener, first time poster.

With regards to the Cavan situation, the CCB needs to take a good long look at themselves in fairness (like that's going to happen). If we were to look at them as if they were managing a company they large majority of them would be sacked by now. As they have full time staff working in there now why the hell shouldn't we ask for some sort of accountability.

Rant OVER

  :(
Welcome but just to let you know, Mr Pain is our official Ranter and only he can sign off with Rant Over. 

Though I'd say he is mightly pissed off and wondering can it get any worse (and yes it can cos we are Cavan).
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: jonb_cúl on July 28, 2009, 10:05:19 PM
Quote from: Denn Forever on July 28, 2009, 09:52:52 PM
Quote from: jonb_cúl on July 28, 2009, 04:22:23 PM
Well  lads, Another "newbie" for ye all to get to know!!!! I'm a long time listener, first time poster.

With regards to the Cavan situation, the CCB needs to take a good long look at themselves in fairness (like that's going to happen). If we were to look at them as if they were managing a company they large majority of them would be sacked by now. As they have full time staff working in there now why the hell shouldn't we ask for some sort of accountability.

Rant OVER

  :(
Welcome but just to let you know, Mr Pain is our official Ranter and only he can sign off with Rant Over. 

Though I'd say he is mightly pissed off and wondering can it get any worse (and yes it can cos we are Cavan).

Thanks for the welcome, I do apologies for the use of Mr Pain signature signing off!!!!! Those words will never leave my keyboard again
POST OVER ;D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Mr Miyagi on July 28, 2009, 10:23:08 PM
Miyagi read papers today and Miyagi had to stop working. Head in hands in disbelief they went.

Miyagi thinks the CB are a disgrace and would like Danielson to get his hands on them and kick them out of power.

For too long have they been ruining Miyagi's dreams.

Miyagi does not know Mr Carr but he is glad that the man has refused to be bullied by a bunch of people with noodles for brains. 

Miyagi hopes clubs think sensibly and be rational. Stability is needed I think.

Perhaps allow Mr Carr another chance. Change his back-room team and get more people in around him. For two brains is better than one.

Miyagi is good friends with a Cavan Gaels player, he once coached him, and he think that Mr Carr is very good in areas but thinks he needs stronger characters around him to help in areas he not so good at. This make sense to everyonebody?

Miyagi would also like to say that if someone from his Karate club went to Classical Music concert night before tournament, he would kick them out of group and not let them back in even if they offered I a free lifetime supply of Chicken Curry.

All for one and one for all is my adopted motto.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on July 28, 2009, 10:35:35 PM
Tommy refused to resign!!!  :D
Im liking Tommy Carr more and more,its great hes not letting those useless shower of b*astards away easily by leaving.
Anyone see any possibilities within these chain of events,that Carr stays,and some or all of the main moutpieces of the county board get gate?
That would be the perfect scenario for me.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on July 28, 2009, 10:38:04 PM
just can't belief this whole farce. Its actually hilarious.

When are people going to learn that success is a process?There are no quick solutions or no Harry Potter spells. Building a formidable team is hard-work and it cannot be done in six or seven months.

To learn, people have to make mistakes - that applies to both a management team and a set of players as well as a mother with her new-born child. You learn.

When an outside manager comes in, it takes time to get to know players. He needs to learn about individual's strengths and weaknesses and how they react to certain situations. Again, that can only be learned in time.


Whatever knowledge Tommy Carr learned about his group of players over the past six months can be flushed down the toilet if he goes. We will be back to square one. The get to know you process has to start all over again – with someone else. And the next man in line is not going to be Mick O'Dwyer. Dont kid yourself there.

Let's be honest, we are all desperate to see Cavan suceed in Ulster but it won't just happen. Instead, we should set short-term goals with his squad. All aiming towards the bigger picture. Steady progress rather than instant sucess is the way forward.


If we kick him out, we have taken a relatively high-profile manager, given him less than a year and kicked him out because there was no instant success or no instant result. It's so narrow-minded and as a county we are just going around in circles. Cavan football needs to find its feet before it can regain its belief.

What harm would giving him one more year in the job doe?  A Cavan man, with a view to succeeding Carr in a few years, could be given the U21 job for the forthcoming season – to let the home-grown man gain management experience at Inter-County level. But that idea prob makes to much sense for some people who make decisions.

And then by the end of 2010, if the situation had not improved at senior level, Carr's position could be understood to be under review. But not now, give the man a chance.

Obviously, the team performances towards the end of the year were alarming but sometimes a group can learn a lot about themselves from defeats like that.
None of Cavan's problems are unsolvable.

Surely an open team meeting, where problems could be discussed and issues raised be very beneficial to everyone involved. Again though that prob makes too much sense.

Shit, that message was long, needed to get that off my breasts though ;D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: the salmon of knowledge on July 28, 2009, 10:38:43 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on July 28, 2009, 10:35:35 PM
Tommy refused to resign!!!  :D
Im liking Tommy Carr more and more,its great hes not letting those useless shower of b*astards away easily by leaving.
Anyone see any possibilities within these chain of events,that Carr stays,and some or all of the main moutpieces of the county board get gate?
That would be the perfect scenario for me.

ideal situation but highly unlikely..

if it was put before the labour relations comission, they would probably recommend Carr gets more money!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on July 28, 2009, 10:39:53 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on July 28, 2009, 10:35:35 PM
Tommy refused to resign!!!  :D
Im liking Tommy Carr more and more,its great hes not letting those useless shower of b*astards away easily by leaving.
Anyone see any possibilities within these chain of events,that Carr stays,and some or all of the main moutpieces of the county board get gate?
That would be the perfect scenario for me.

here here!!!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Drung on July 28, 2009, 11:03:16 PM
QuoteI know who my source is,and if he has it wrong then the County Board has it wrong, put it that way.What makes you so sure? Rory Dunne was mentioned already.

Your source has it totally wrong. I asked one of the players and he told me who was there with him. Boojangles, you have been proven to be completely wrong on a few things lately, watch or Hollow Man will be back!
Someone get Sean O Rinn on here to stir it up a bit!

Boojangles, what do you think of Mickey Lee? Rumour has it that there will be changes in Mickey Graham's minor set-up next year, should Lee stay do you think? I heard McCorry is gone anyway, he can't commit for another year.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on July 28, 2009, 11:08:15 PM
Quote from: Drung on July 28, 2009, 11:03:16 PM
QuoteI know who my source is,and if he has it wrong then the County Board has it wrong, put it that way.What makes you so sure? Rory Dunne was mentioned already.

Your source has it totally wrong. I asked one of the players and he told me who was there with him. Boojangles, you have been proven to be completely wrong on a few things lately, watch or Hollow Man will be back!
Someone get Sean O Rinn on here to stir it up a bit!

Boojangles, what do you think of Mickey Lee? Rumour has it that there will be changes in Mickey Graham's minor set-up next year, should Lee stay do you think? I heard McCorry is gone anyway, he can't commit for another year.

Drung can you say who you are told was there here or PM me the names.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on July 28, 2009, 11:10:20 PM
Quote from: Drung on July 28, 2009, 11:03:16 PM
QuoteI know who my source is,and if he has it wrong then the County Board has it wrong, put it that way.What makes you so sure? Rory Dunne was mentioned already.

Your source has it totally wrong. I asked one of the players and he told me who was there with him. Boojangles, you have been proven to be completely wrong on a few things lately, watch or Hollow Man will be back!
Someone get Sean O Rinn on here to stir it up a bit!

Boojangles, what do you think of Mickey Lee? Rumour has it that there will be changes in Mickey Graham's minor set-up next year, should Lee stay do you think? I heard McCorry is gone anyway, he can't commit for another year.

If McCorry goes it will be a massive loss to the set-up. Mickey is the main man, but Paul would offer a lot.

I'm glad Mickey G is giving it another year.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on July 28, 2009, 11:18:40 PM
Jaysus some man PM me and let me know who was at Oxegen... The f-ing suspense is killin me!!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on July 28, 2009, 11:20:36 PM
Quote from: Celt_Man on July 28, 2009, 11:18:40 PM
Jaysus some man PM me and let me know who was at Oxegen... The f-ing suspense is killin me!!

Me too, i have been told who two of them were, but I struggle to belief the name of the other one
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on July 28, 2009, 11:21:06 PM
Quote from: Celt_Man on July 28, 2009, 11:18:40 PM
Jaysus some man PM me and let me know who was at Oxegen... The f-ing suspense is killin me!!

Seen as your on the mobile i will text you when i find out  8)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Mr. Pain on July 28, 2009, 11:29:33 PM
It has come to Mr. Pain's attention that the county board are not only incompetent but are very stubborn also. A complete reshuffle is needed with a few new names thrown in for a fresher look. Mr. Pain is aware that Cavan have gone back a step, although he did not think it possible after Lt. Frank Drebin's reign. However, the current county board should be held accountable for choosing these managers and paying big bucks.

On another matter, Mr. Pain is not impressed with others making use of his phrases, signatures and associated branding. It has happened before and Mr. Pain let it slide. JohnB Tool, you are new to this board so we will call it a warning.

Finally, while Mr. Pain was in bed last night giving one to Mrs. Pain he came up with a brilliant idea. This board has been full of bad news and negativity lately. Mr. Pain is going to cheer himself up by goin to the fancy dress in Belturbet dressed as Tommy Carr. He has already purchased a bald cap, glasses and oversized wallet. He recommends that ye minions could go dressed up as other former managers. He might have a Val Andrews wig that he could lend to someone.

Rant Over!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: jonb_cúl on July 28, 2009, 11:40:48 PM
very good Mr Pain, very good indeed!!! JohnB Tool, oh my sides!!!!!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Mr. Pain on July 28, 2009, 11:44:13 PM
Strike 2.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: jonb_cúl on July 29, 2009, 12:00:54 AM
okay Mr Pain, lesson learnt. i will be on my best behavour from now on
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on July 29, 2009, 01:49:48 AM
Most definetly the funniest poster on GAABoard .  :D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on July 29, 2009, 11:55:55 AM
Quote from: boojangles on July 28, 2009, 07:01:58 PM
Celt Man I don't know if you were the Cootehill delegate the other nite at the Minor Board meeting but I heard that the abuse Mr Argue gave to his own club delegate was a scandal,he said if it had have been him he would have got up and split him. I know of a fella that said he would definitely run against Mr Argue next year if he tries to get back in the Chair.

JonB Cul your dead rite about the County Board,I just despair of them at this stage. the crowds at some of the Championship matches over the weekend was embarassing. As mentioned already- Why not advertise all Championship games for a Fiver admission? Try and create some sort of a buzz about Club Football. You can bet there was no representative of the Senior Management at alot of Championship games also this weekend. Whole lot is a joke.

No it wasn't me, I believe it was our Senior Secretary but I heard about it - kinda glad some other clubs are seeing that man for what he is.  It's just hard to believe how much delight he takes for doing to this a group of Under 16s from any club let alone "his own club" (heavy emphasis on the inverted commas)
I think his parting line was sure you got 15 the first day where did they go? But he wouldn't listen that we couldn't even finish the first game with 15 - a fella was injured had to come off and we had no sub.  Already we have one of those 15 who can't play in the Championship because he is training for some boxing tournament in America so we're down to 14 - I could go on.  But so long as our Esteemed Chairman is happy, I suppose I will have to be too. 
There will be more to come on this..
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on July 29, 2009, 12:36:26 PM
Quote from: Drung on July 28, 2009, 11:03:16 PM
QuoteI know who my source is,and if he has it wrong then the County Board has it wrong, put it that way.What makes you so sure? Rory Dunne was mentioned already.

Your source has it totally wrong. I asked one of the players and he told me who was there with him. Boojangles, you have been proven to be completely wrong on a few things lately, watch or Hollow Man will be back!
Someone get Sean O Rinn on here to stir it up a bit!

Boojangles, what do you think of Mickey Lee? Rumour has it that there will be changes in Mickey Graham's minor set-up next year, should Lee stay do you think? I heard McCorry is gone anyway, he can't commit for another year.

Quote from: Drung on July 28, 2009, 11:03:16 PM
QuoteI know who my source is,and if he has it wrong then the County Board has it wrong, put it that way.What makes you so sure? Rory Dunne was mentioned already.

Your source has it totally wrong. I asked one of the players and he told me who was there with him. Boojangles, you have been proven to be completely wrong on a few things lately, watch or Hollow Man will be back!
Someone get Sean O Rinn on here to stir it up a bit!

Boojangles, what do you think of Mickey Lee? Rumour has it that there will be changes in Mickey Graham's minor set-up next year, should Lee stay do you think? I heard McCorry is gone anyway, he can't commit for another year.
Not completely wrong.And the 4 lads I heard didnt all go together so I don't know if you can b sure that one of the lads I mentioned wasn't there.If you knew who the info came directly from(an officer of the CB) you would have put it up too,People hav a right to know what went on.I hav stood up for the players in lots of cases but this latest episode is the final straw.This kind of shit wouldn't go on in club football.

Micky Lee would b an excellent selector,he is very good along the line and would b a good man manager.He knows how the game should b played.I think he should b left with the Minors but I wouldn't b suprised if he was asked to step aside.I know some of the CB weren't best pleased that 3 of the men involved with the Minors were also managing clubs. I would hope he would stay with Drumalee for next year,regardless of how we do this year.We are finally moving in the right direction after being in the doldrums for the past 2 seasons.But that might compromise his position with the Minors.
MCcCorry would b a massive loss if that was true.I really would love to see him involved with the Senior set-up soon because if not,we could lose him to another county.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on July 29, 2009, 03:17:01 PM
Lads just out of interest would anybody be in a position to say how the feel their clubs will vote?

I really do respect Carr for refusing to step down because Liam McCabe told him too..

The way the whole farce has been played out I actually think TC has gained more support
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on July 29, 2009, 03:22:28 PM
For anyone that didn read todays Indo, there is a very interesting piece in it.

Carr the latest victim of a county living on past glories

Below is the link

http://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-football/carr-the-latest-victim-of-a-county-living-on-past-glories-1844626.html
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on July 29, 2009, 04:14:07 PM
Drumalee voted to keep Carr last nite.Some people in the club are not happy but thank god sense prevailed. Jesus we are the laughing stock of the country.Who the f**k do the County Board think they are? They can't even make up their own minds whether they want him gone.Not one of them man enough to come out and say what exactly their views are.The lack of leadership forthcoming is outrageous.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on July 29, 2009, 04:30:54 PM
Quote from: boojangles on July 29, 2009, 04:14:07 PM
Drumalee voted to keep Carr last nite.Some people in the club are not happy but thank god sense prevailed. Jesus we are the laughing stock of the country.Who the f**k do the County Board think they are? They can't even make up their own minds whether they want him gone.Not one of them man enough to come out and say what exactly their views are.The lack of leadership forthcoming is outrageous.

Good to hear. Have not actually been speaking to anyone from Bailieborough, anyone know how they voted?

We are a laughing stock at the minute. The opening few paragraphs of that piece in the Indo, contains a right few sly digs!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tierworker blue on July 29, 2009, 05:50:48 PM
Just read the Indo article...spot on in my opinion. He tapped into a lot of the things we've been harping on about for ages.
No word from the Shamrocks yet put it up...I'll put the feelers out.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on July 29, 2009, 06:18:17 PM
Quote from: tierworker blue on July 29, 2009, 05:50:48 PM
Just read the Indo article...spot on in my opinion. He tapped into a lot of the things we've been harping on about for ages.
No word from the Shamrocks yet put it up...I'll put the feelers out.

Yeah the article hit a few things on the head and is a concise opinion from a neutral.

I presume you are from up around the Royal Brenni TB? Not too many would adopt the name tierworker from outside the area! Are the Shamrocks your home club
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on July 29, 2009, 06:20:33 PM
Only public and national highlighting of just how embarrassing we have become, as in the Indo piece, will bring about any sort of change. Bad and all as we are, I'd say there's good, honest, genuine Cavan football people reading that and getting determined to do something about it.

I hope.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on July 29, 2009, 06:32:52 PM
Quote from: put-it-up on July 29, 2009, 04:30:54 PM
Quote from: boojangles on July 29, 2009, 04:14:07 PM
Drumalee voted to keep Carr last nite.Some people in the club are not happy but thank god sense prevailed. Jesus we are the laughing stock of the country.Who the f**k do the County Board think they are? They can't even make up their own minds whether they want him gone.Not one of them man enough to come out and say what exactly their views are.The lack of leadership forthcoming is outrageous.

Good to hear. Have not actually been speaking to anyone from Bailieborough, anyone know how they voted?

We are a laughing stock at the minute. The opening few paragraphs of that piece in the Indo, contains a right few sly digs!

If he prays hard enough, promises to indulge every average footballer in the county, arranges with the organisers that the Oxegen music festival doesn't clash with a Cavan game next summer and beseeches the memory of Paddy Reilly from Ballyjamesduff to intervene on his behalf, maybe he will be granted another year in charge of the mighty empire.

I really hope some of the men 'apparently' calling the shots take a read of that.As usual making the headlines for all the wrong reasons.Seen the Mirrior today.2 pages of GAA dedicated to this farce.
The main question that has to b asked is-What plan have the people who want rid of Carr got? What is Plan B?

What Cavan football needs IMO is a Director of Football type to come in and assess the whole landscape in the county.Tell the County Board where they are going wrong.Tell the Coaching officers and Juvenile Board where they are going wrong.let him set out a Plan for the Minor ,U-21 and Senior manager on how best to improve things. Set realistic targets for all teams and re-evaluate after every 6 months.A man who has seen it before in a successful county-Joe Kernan or somebody like him.
In a lot of cases the County Board are going against the grain and not working with the clubs.The County Board should b there to facilitate clubs,not to come down heavy handed on them all the time like a school master.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on July 29, 2009, 06:42:35 PM
It was a decent piece in the indo and worked to get the point across, all be it with the usual nonsense and inaccuracies from Brehony. The only way Cavan football gets any press coverage is when they have a farce like this going on. The Cavan Antrim ulster semi got 1/8 of a page of rubbish by Stephen King on the day before the game in the same paper.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on July 29, 2009, 06:57:47 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on July 29, 2009, 06:42:35 PM
It was a decent piece in the indo and worked to get the point across, all be it with the usual nonsense and inaccuracies from Brehony. The only way Cavan football gets any press coverage is when they have a farce like this going on. The Cavan Antrim ulster semi got 1/8 of a page of rubbish by Stephen King on the day before the game in the same paper.

Your really don't like King, do you Myles.

i agree with your previous post about setting goals, I said that in a litte rant of mine on the previous page. But them goals should be between management and players. A big meeting is needed at the start of next year I think - where the players have a good long hard look at themselves
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on July 29, 2009, 07:21:55 PM
Im signing out of this thread for a while until this mess is sorted its depressing reading here these days, and while people are discussing good ideas its worse to know that there is very little chance of change happening.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on July 29, 2009, 10:14:16 PM
Quote from: cavan4ever on July 29, 2009, 07:21:55 PM
Im signing out of this thread for a while until this mess is sorted its depressing reading here these days, and while people are discussing good ideas its worse to know that there is very little chance of change happening.

Well the more grilling we get from the National media the better.Its important everybody gets their point across to their club reps or nothing will change.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on July 29, 2009, 10:25:07 PM
One thing that concerns me is that a lot of club officials have no clue what is going on you know?

And if one person speaks strongly for or agianst they will all just follow suit...

Anyway im starting to get sick of talking about this, I suppose we just have to wait and see how it unfolds.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Drung on July 29, 2009, 10:39:31 PM
Many seem to be rallying around Carr, but we need to be careful not to venerate him too much. Carr has a dire record as a manager and he has actually managed to disimprove Cavan.
He didn't do it for the good of his health either -  I heard from a good source that he got the final 15k of the 45k he was owed last week, in cash.
My opinuion on the whole sorry farce is as follows:
Shame on the Cavan players for their lack of passion. Shame on Tommy Carr for taking OUR money not doing his job properly and shame on the county board for appointing him in the first place and now taking the quick fix.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on July 29, 2009, 10:43:54 PM
Quote from: Drung on July 29, 2009, 10:39:31 PM
Many seem to be rallying around Carr, but we need to be careful not to venerate him too much. Carr has a dire record as a manager and he has actually managed to disimprove Cavan.
He didn't do it for the good of his health eitheer -  I heard from a good source that he got the final 15k of the 45k he was owed last week, in cash.
My opinuion on the whole sorry farce is as follows:
Shame on the Cavan players for their lack of passion. Shame on Tommy Carr for taking OUR money not doing his job properly and shame on the county board for appointing him in the first place and now taking the quick fix.


I am hoping like BHM that the net effect of this is that the county board will get a big kick in the balls as a backlash to the handling of this. As for carr, although I am not happy with his performance I still don't see anyone else out there that would take the job that would do a better job. I think the message we would send to the wider GAA if we sack Carr is very negative and would blacken our names so much that no one would ever want to manage us.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on July 29, 2009, 10:48:21 PM
Quote from: Drung on July 29, 2009, 10:39:31 PM
Many seem to be rallying around Carr, but we need to be careful not to venerate him too much. Carr has a dire record as a manager and he has actually managed to disimprove Cavan.
He didn't do it for the good of his health either -  I heard from a good source that he got the final 15k of the 45k he was owed last week, in cash.
My opinuion on the whole sorry farce is as follows:
Shame on the Cavan players for their lack of passion. Shame on Tommy Carr for taking OUR money not doing his job properly and shame on the county board for appointing him in the first place and now taking the quick fix.


I agree we were dire last year, but the man needs to be given another year. \Give him and the team a chance to redeem themselves....I heard his pay-packet was around that mark. Thats the only thing that makes me think he will be voted out...because he is costing an awful lot you know?!

Big changes need to happen both on anf off the field
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Drung on July 29, 2009, 11:01:42 PM
I predict he will stay in on a roughly 65-35 split.
Had the vote been taken the other nigth, he was gone. However, once the delegates seek advice from their county players they will vote to keep him, with only a few such as Gowna, Killeshandra, Laragh and Cavan Gaels said to be opposed.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on July 29, 2009, 11:10:19 PM
Quote from: Drung on July 29, 2009, 11:01:42 PM
I predict he will stay in on a roughly 65-35 split.
Had the vote been taken the other nigth, he was gone. However, once the delegates seek advice from their county players they will vote to keep him, with only a few such as Gowna, Killeshandra, Laragh and Cavan Gaels said to be opposed.

Funny the Gaels are opposed, when Jelly is all over the papers giving his support. An official from that club has other interests.

I would imagine a right few clubs will support him. CuCu's, Kingscourt, Castlerahan... I dunno, I think the clubs that have no county players will have a big say. Whatever way their votes go will be crucial.

I dunno what the story is with my own club, the comitee are split from what I gather
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on July 29, 2009, 11:19:21 PM
Quote from: Drung on July 29, 2009, 11:01:42 PM
I predict he will stay in on a roughly 65-35 split.
Had the vote been taken the other nigth, he was gone. However, once the delegates seek advice from their county players they will vote to keep him, with only a few such as Gowna, Killeshandra, Laragh and Cavan Gaels said to be opposed.

I'd be surprised if Killeshandra are opposed. He has 2 leaguers on his panel for 1st time in a long time. It is certainly not to get King in as they wouldn't even put his name forward last time the managers job was up for grabs - some other club did that.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on July 29, 2009, 11:42:56 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on July 29, 2009, 11:19:21 PM
Quote from: Drung on July 29, 2009, 11:01:42 PM
I predict he will stay in on a roughly 65-35 split.
Had the vote been taken the other nigth, he was gone. However, once the delegates seek advice from their county players they will vote to keep him, with only a few such as Gowna, Killeshandra, Laragh and Cavan Gaels said to be opposed.

I'd be surprised if Killeshandra are opposed. He has 2 leaguers on his panel for 1st time in a long time. It is certainly not to get King in as they wouldn't even put his name forward last time the managers job was up for grabs - some other club did that.

Why are Laragh so opposed does anyone know? Celt said they proposed the no-confidence vote
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tierworker blue on July 30, 2009, 12:14:16 AM
Quote from: put-it-up on July 29, 2009, 06:18:17 PM
Quote from: tierworker blue on July 29, 2009, 05:50:48 PM
Just read the Indo article...spot on in my opinion. He tapped into a lot of the things we've been harping on about for ages.
No word from the Shamrocks yet put it up...I'll put the feelers out.

Yeah the article hit a few things on the head and is a concise opinion from a neutral.

I presume you are from up around the Royal Brenni TB? Not too many would adopt the name tierworker from outside the area! Are the Shamrocks your home club

Yep, Shamrocks is my home club now. I actually played my underage football with a Meath club due to where I went to national school (Tis'nt easy being the only young lad at training wearing a Cavan jersey...the tackles came in extra hard methinks!)
As you know yourself, the border snakes in and out around my neck of the woods like nobody's business and a few hundred yards this way or that can make a big difference! Then I spent a few clubless years when I was'nt around home much. Being a lifelong Breffni Blues supporter, it made sense to join the Shamrocks eventually.
There are always plenty of stories like that when you're dealing with split parishes.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on July 30, 2009, 12:22:27 AM
Quote from: tierworker blue on July 30, 2009, 12:14:16 AM
Quote from: put-it-up on July 29, 2009, 06:18:17 PM
Quote from: tierworker blue on July 29, 2009, 05:50:48 PM
Just read the Indo article...spot on in my opinion. He tapped into a lot of the things we've been harping on about for ages.
No word from the Shamrocks yet put it up...I'll put the feelers out.

Yeah the article hit a few things on the head and is a concise opinion from a neutral.

I presume you are from up around the Royal Brenni TB? Not too many would adopt the name tierworker from outside the area! Are the Shamrocks your home club

Yep, Shamrocks is my home club now. I actually played my underage football with a Meath club due to where I went to national school (Tis'nt easy being the only young lad at training wearing a Cavan jersey...the tackles came in extra hard methinks!)
As you know yourself, the border snakes in and out around my neck of the woods like nobody's business and a few hundred yards this way or that can make a big difference! Then I spent a few clubless years when I was'nt around home much. Being a lifelong Breffni Blues supporter, it made sense to join the Shamrocks eventually.
There are always plenty of stories like that when you're dealing with split parishes.

Do you still play a bit of ball or just folly results?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tierworker blue on July 30, 2009, 12:52:43 AM
Quote from: put-it-up on July 30, 2009, 12:22:27 AM
Quote from: tierworker blue on July 30, 2009, 12:14:16 AM
Quote from: put-it-up on July 29, 2009, 06:18:17 PM
Quote from: tierworker blue on July 29, 2009, 05:50:48 PM
Just read the Indo article...spot on in my opinion. He tapped into a lot of the things we've been harping on about for ages.
No word from the Shamrocks yet put it up...I'll put the feelers out.

Yeah the article hit a few things on the head and is a concise opinion from a neutral.

I presume you are from up around the Royal Brenni TB? Not too many would adopt the name tierworker from outside the area! Are the Shamrocks your home club

Yep, Shamrocks is my home club now. I actually played my underage football with a Meath club due to where I went to national school (Tis'nt easy being the only young lad at training wearing a Cavan jersey...the tackles came in extra hard methinks!)
As you know yourself, the border snakes in and out around my neck of the woods like nobody's business and a few hundred yards this way or that can make a big difference! Then I spent a few clubless years when I was'nt around home much. Being a lifelong Breffni Blues supporter, it made sense to join the Shamrocks eventually.
There are always plenty of stories like that when you're dealing with split parishes.

Do you still play a bit of ball or just folly results?

I hav'nt played ball for a while to be honest, although I plan on giving it one last lash soon, before I seize up for good! Work has gotten in the way of a lot of things lately...hard to commit to training etc. I'd usually go to a few games when I'm home and follow the results through the lads who play when I'm not about. The next step for me with the Shamrocks is actually a bit of small ball work...the East Cavan hurling revival has begun!
What about yourself?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Drung on July 30, 2009, 12:11:59 PM
QuoteI'd be surprised if Killeshandra are opposed. He has 2 leaguers on his panel for 1st time in a long time. It is certainly not to get King in as they wouldn't even put his name forward last time the managers job was up for grabs - some other club did that.

You are badly out of touch with your own club Myles. The Killeshandra delegate was the first to speak and was by far the hardest hitting on the night, calling Carr 'diabolical' and the worst-qualified candidate that ran for the job. A couple of others spoke against Carr after this but nobody was as ferocious as the Leaguers chairman. So I've been told, didn't make the meeting although my own clubman spoke fairly strongly in favour of keeping Carr, having consulted wit county players.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on July 30, 2009, 12:26:17 PM
If Carr is gotten rid off, I don't think Donal would even think of going back.  How bad is that?

A prophet in his own land is not listened to.  I say prophet in the sense of telling the truth.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on July 30, 2009, 01:53:31 PM
Quote from: Drung on July 30, 2009, 12:11:59 PM
QuoteI'd be surprised if Killeshandra are opposed. He has 2 leaguers on his panel for 1st time in a long time. It is certainly not to get King in as they wouldn't even put his name forward last time the managers job was up for grabs - some other club did that.

You are badly out of touch with your own club Myles. The Killeshandra delegate was the first to speak and was by far the hardest hitting on the night, calling Carr 'diabolical' and the worst-qualified candidate that ran for the job. A couple of others spoke against Carr after this but nobody was as ferocious as the Leaguers chairman. So I've been told, didn't make the meeting although my own clubman spoke fairly strongly in favour of keeping Carr, having consulted wit county players.


I forgot that things have changed in there and the new chairman in leaguer land would not be my favourite person in the world. He wouldn't exactly be the brightest lad either. In fact he trained the leaguers on two occassions and overseen probably 2 of the worst seasons we ever heard. So I am not surprised that he made a ferocious attack. You might argue he was not a good choice but how you say that he was the lesser of all candidates is crazy. I can also tell you that that lad was not even in Wicklow to watch the game - i know this for a fact.

What often happens in clubs is that a hardcore of buddies form a clique and take the rolles within the club. In fairness to them it is normall cos no one else wants to get involved. Then what happens is that meetings are called with 8/9 people at them and this clique can basically propose, 2nd and pass anything they want. I do know that any of the lads I spoke to in the club (most of them older lads) are not in favour of sacking carr even though they would not be impressed with what they see.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on July 30, 2009, 02:24:10 PM
Its only when the shit really hits the fan like whats happening in Cavan at the moment that everything is really started to be questioned. People are looking at the amount of players Cavan have that are playing Colleges football and not training with Cavan until March or so and how it must be having a negative influence on the set-up. I know of one up and coming player on the Cavan squad who was asked how many times he had trained with his college and he said 3 TIMES.This wasnt 3 times a week as the County Management had presumed but 3 Times all year. ::) ::)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: LandErIn on July 30, 2009, 03:15:02 PM
The Cavan schools scene must be the thing that needs improved the most.  Most counties going well have a healthy school structure in place.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Drung on July 30, 2009, 03:40:47 PM
QuoteWhat often happens in clubs is that a hardcore of buddies form a clique and take the rolles within the club. In fairness to them it is normall cos no one else wants to get involved. Then what happens is that meetings are called with 8/9 people at them and this clique can basically propose, 2nd and pass anything they want. I do know that any of the lads I spoke to in the club (most of them older lads) are not in favour of sacking carr even though they would not be impressed with what they see.

With respect Myles, what you are saying is that only a few bother or want to get involved, the few that do then hold meetings among the few who bother to turn up, and then make decisions based on this.
I wouldn't fault those fellas just because they hold their own opinion. If 'no one else wants to get involved' as you say, then don't criticise the result of the democratic process involviong those who do.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on July 30, 2009, 04:37:51 PM
Quote from: Drung on July 30, 2009, 03:40:47 PM
QuoteWhat often happens in clubs is that a hardcore of buddies form a clique and take the rolles within the club. In fairness to them it is normall cos no one else wants to get involved. Then what happens is that meetings are called with 8/9 people at them and this clique can basically propose, 2nd and pass anything they want. I do know that any of the lads I spoke to in the club (most of them older lads) are not in favour of sacking carr even though they would not be impressed with what they see.

With respect Myles, what you are saying is that only a few bother or want to get involved, the few that do then hold meetings among the few who bother to turn up, and then make decisions based on this.
I wouldn't fault those fellas just because they hold their own opinion. If 'no one else wants to get involved' as you say, then don't criticise the result of the democratic process involviong those who do.

I am just outlining how many clubs make decisions on a week to week basis. I would then ask you to consider some of the more popular votes that were taken at club level over the years. For example opening Croke Park to Soccer/Rugby and allowing RUC to play football. Many clubs (including Killeshandra) actively sent out letters informing members of important votes that would be occuring at the next meeting in order to get a wider democratic decision. I don't think the decision of Killeshandra to speak like that at the meeting reflected what the club members actually wanted.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Drung on July 30, 2009, 11:17:13 PM
QuoteIt has come to Mr. Pain's attention that the county board are not only incompetent but are very stubborn also. A complete reshuffle is needed with a few new names thrown in for a fresher look. Mr. Pain is aware that Cavan have gone back a step, although he did not think it possible after Lt. Frank Drebin's reign. However, the current county board should be held accountable for choosing these managers and paying big bucks.

On another matter, Mr. Pain is not impressed with others making use of his phrases, signatures and associated branding. It has happened before and Mr. Pain let it slide. JohnB Tool, you are new to this board so we will call it a warning.

Finally, while Mr. Pain was in bed last night giving one to Mrs. Pain he came up with a brilliant idea. This board has been full of bad news and negativity lately. Mr. Pain is going to cheer himself up by goin to the fancy dress in Belturbet dressed as Tommy Carr. He has already purchased a bald cap, glasses and oversized wallet. He recommends that ye minions could go dressed up as other former managers. He might have a Val Andrews wig that he could lend to someone.

Rant Over!

Just saw this. Good stuff Mr Pain! ;D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: jonb_cúl on July 30, 2009, 11:55:51 PM
Well Lads, just curious what you all think of the cancellation of this years visit of the Australian compremise rules team. Having seen a few games down through the years I have to say that i enjoyed watching this code. I was also hoping (dreaming) that we might be in with a shout of getting one of the games in Breffni Park. I suppose a lad is allowed to dream, we're good at that in this county!!!!!       

  :P :P :P :P :P
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: jonb_cúl on July 30, 2009, 11:58:44 PM
A quick one for someone out there, but in the past was the August bank holiday weekend not always a free weekend for club players in this county? I know this is the case in other counties, e.g Donegal.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on July 31, 2009, 12:57:51 AM
Quote from: jonb_cúl on July 30, 2009, 11:58:44 PM
A quick one for someone out there, but in the past was the August bank holiday weekend not always a free weekend for club players in this county? I know this is the case in other counties, e.g Donegal.
Yea the last week in July, first week in August was always kept free because of the builder's holidays though I suppose there are feck all builders working now I guess the County Board didn't feel the need to keep them free
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Swadman on August 01, 2009, 01:04:18 PM
QuoteMr. Pain is going to cheer himself up by going to the fancy dress in Belturbet dressed as Tommy Carr. He has already purchased a bald cap, glasses and oversized wallet. He recommends that ye minions could go dressed up as other former managers.
Took your advice Mr. Pain. Me and 3 mates went to the Belturbet fancy dress as the last 4 Cavan managers. Nobody recognised us. Then it dawned on me - sure they were sacked before anyone got to know what they looked like !!! ;D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Swadman on August 01, 2009, 01:27:37 PM
Myles, Drung has it right, I heard from two different chairmen that the K/shandra delegate backed up the Laragh motion with venom. (He is a long time, good mate of the Kings). The motion was deferred as some of the delegates said they could'nt make a decision before getting a mandate from their respective clubs.
Our club had a committee meeting to discuss the issue and the outcome was'nt favouring T.C. It was a case of "a pox on both your houses". All clubs have probably thrashed it out by now for the big vote on Tuesday night. If I was TC I would be checking the "situations vacant" column in his local rag.
The blame lies in all areas at the moment. Breheny got it spot on IMO.
Quoteyou might think that litany of failure would prompt Cavan to look at their entire approach, structures and targets. Is the county best set up to compete in the new environment or is it living in a time warp where a high self-regard over successes achieved more than 50 years ago blinds them to present-day realities? Some players have been happy to blame successive managers for the failures. It's the ultimate cop-out but then the county board have been no better. Churning managers on a regular basis gives the impression of actually doing something constructive when, in fact, it's a cowardly abdication of responsibility.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on August 01, 2009, 02:20:06 PM
Quote from: Swadman on August 01, 2009, 01:27:37 PM
Myles, Drung has it right, I heard from two different chairmen that the K/shandra delegate backed up the Laragh motion with venom. (He is a long time, good mate of the Kings). The motion was deferred as some of the delegates said they could'nt make a decision before getting a mandate from their respective clubs.
Our club had a committee meeting to discuss the issue and the outcome was'nt favouring T.C. It was a case of "a pox on both your houses". All clubs have probably thrashed it out by now for the big vote on Tuesday night. If I was TC I would be checking the "situations vacant" column in his local rag.
The blame lies in all areas at the moment. Breheny got it spot on IMO.
Quoteyou might think that litany of failure would prompt Cavan to look at their entire approach, structures and targets. Is the county best set up to compete in the new environment or is it living in a time warp where a high self-regard over successes achieved more than 50 years ago blinds them to present-day realities? Some players have been happy to blame successive managers for the failures. It's the ultimate cop-out but then the county board have been no better. Churning managers on a regular basis gives the impression of actually doing something constructive when, in fact, it's a cowardly abdication of responsibility.


Was talking to the lads alright and this appears to be true amazingly enough. This same pal of King (and chairman of Killeshandra) is the same guy  that fell out with king over the Kilmore hotel room fiasco. However, all seems to be forgiven and the motive now seems as selfish as getting a buddy into the job. Like I said there are 5/6 lads in a clique in the Killeshandra club that run the show. A couple are very good buddies with King (although I wrongly reported that this relationship was over). Seems as simple and as selfish as that. Shame on them. I find it incredible as Carr gave Declan McKiernan and Thomais O Reilly a place in his panel this year as he reckoned they were lads for the future. But King is more important to be in there than these young lads! Ye have no idea what a mess is until he gets involved, we'll be begging for Carr or even Keoghan back if that happens.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on August 01, 2009, 03:29:46 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on August 01, 2009, 02:20:06 PM
Quote from: Swadman on August 01, 2009, 01:27:37 PM
Myles, Drung has it right, I heard from two different chairmen that the K/shandra delegate backed up the Laragh motion with venom. (He is a long time, good mate of the Kings). The motion was deferred as some of the delegates said they could'nt make a decision before getting a mandate from their respective clubs.
Our club had a committee meeting to discuss the issue and the outcome was'nt favouring T.C. It was a case of "a pox on both your houses". All clubs have probably thrashed it out by now for the big vote on Tuesday night. If I was TC I would be checking the "situations vacant" column in his local rag.
The blame lies in all areas at the moment. Breheny got it spot on IMO.
Quoteyou might think that litany of failure would prompt Cavan to look at their entire approach, structures and targets. Is the county best set up to compete in the new environment or is it living in a time warp where a high self-regard over successes achieved more than 50 years ago blinds them to present-day realities? Some players have been happy to blame successive managers for the failures. It's the ultimate cop-out but then the county board have been no better. Churning managers on a regular basis gives the impression of actually doing something constructive when, in fact, it's a cowardly abdication of responsibility.


Was talking to the lads alright and this appears to be true amazingly enough. This same pal of King (and chairman of Killeshandra) is the same guy  that fell out with king over the Kilmore hotel room fiasco. However, all seems to be forgiven and the motive now seems as selfish as getting a buddy into the job. Like I said there are 5/6 lads in a clique in the Killeshandra club that run the show. A couple are very good buddies with King (although I wrongly reported that this relationship was over). Seems as simple and as selfish as that. Shame on them. I find it incredible as Carr gave Declan McKiernan and Thomais O Reilly a place in his panel this year as he reckoned they were lads for the future. But King is more important to be in there than these young lads! Ye have no idea what a mess is until he gets involved, we'll be begging for Carr or even Keoghan back if that happens.
I don't mean to doubt you Myles but this bit seems extreme. I know of Kings tricks but do you have genuine reasons to believe that your club would vote Carr out just to get their man in with a chance of the job? Just when you think things can't get any worse............
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on August 01, 2009, 04:05:02 PM
There is no other logical explanation as far as I can see. Can you see any other reason?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on August 01, 2009, 04:55:41 PM
Well I don't know the individual(s) concerned so I wouldn't have a clue.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on August 01, 2009, 09:04:12 PM
Belturbet beat Drumbride 1 - 16 to 1 - 14 this evening in Ballyhaise... Heard West Cavan Gaels pulled out of their final game with Redhills...
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on August 01, 2009, 09:16:00 PM
Quote from: Celt_Man on August 01, 2009, 09:04:12 PM
Belturbet beat Drumbride 1 - 16 to 1 - 14 this evening in Ballyhaise... Heard West Cavan Gaels pulled out of their final game with Redhills...
Couldn't field a team?  ;D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: the salmon of knowledge on August 01, 2009, 09:58:39 PM
Belturbet going well, who is over them?
could they be dark horses??
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4sam on August 01, 2009, 10:32:06 PM
We played Belturbet 2 weeks ago and I wouldn't rate them at all, Thay may have had an off day but i think I can safely say that they wont be winning the senior championship this year.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on August 02, 2009, 04:05:26 PM
Quote from: the salmon of knowledge on August 01, 2009, 09:58:39 PM
Belturbet going well, who is over them?
could they be dark horses??

Gary Donohoe that used to play with Gowna is over them this year and from talking to a few of them he is doing a very good job.Belturbet were very bad last year but he seems to hav fairly turned it around.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on August 02, 2009, 06:03:20 PM
Belturbet are a good team.but they wont be contenders for the championship.
Cavan Gaels are clear frontrunners with only Castlerahan looking like worthy contenders so far.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on August 03, 2009, 04:50:04 PM
Put-It-Up, I meant to ask you about a young player you have at Balieboro that I marked towards the end of my playing days but I forgot. I just remembered he looked to have potential as he gave me a roasting. I picked up the Celt this week and there he is scoring 3-03 from wing-forward (albeit 1-2 from set plays I think). Jeffrey Martin-how is he progressing. I think he told me he was the County Minor Keeper a few years back (although I think if he was, he was the 2nd choice).
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on August 03, 2009, 10:52:25 PM
Quote from: Lawrence of Knockbride on August 03, 2009, 04:50:04 PM
Put-It-Up, I meant to ask you about a young player you have at Balieboro that I marked towards the end of my playing days but I forgot. I just remembered he looked to have potential as he gave me a roasting. I picked up the Celt this week and there he is scoring 3-03 from wing-forward (albeit 1-2 from set plays I think). Jeffrey Martin-how is he progressing. I think he told me he was the County Minor Keeper a few years back (although I think if he was, he was the 2nd choice).

Good man Lawrence, whats the story with you?

Aye, i have no doubt he told you that story. I'm sure he has told it to every single person he has met ;D

He is not much of a keeper mind you! Eh, he is doing ok. Put it this way, if you let him play football, the boy is technically gifted and can play.

Has no real pace or power though and didnt even start our first championship match.

I suppose we will see what he is really made of against Drumgoon this weekend.   
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on August 04, 2009, 09:26:53 AM
What's the story with me? ?
Yeah he talked a good game, and I don't think he was trying to get to me psychologically. Still a good score from wing-forward.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on August 04, 2009, 10:44:40 AM
Quote from: Lawrence of Knockbride on August 04, 2009, 09:26:53 AM
What's the story with me? ?
Yeah he talked a good game, and I don't think he was trying to get to me psychologically. Still a good score from wing-forward.

Story, Crack? Just being polite with you Lawrence!

Yeah he was actually playing at FF against Ballymachugh, none of the papers seemed to pick up on that. And boy god he talks a good game ;D

So it is D-Day for Mr. Carr. Anyone going to be at the meeting on behalf of their clubs. Out of the county at the minute, but would love to know what happens.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on August 04, 2009, 11:14:32 AM
D-Day as right. We haven't heard from many posters how their clubs are voting? I know my own has voted to keep him and we know that Killeshandra are against him.
Its only Club Chairmen and Secretarys allowed at the meetings this year,but Im sure we will all hear soon enough.
Drung mentioned a 65-35 split,I think it may b even closer.If it is, I wonder will TC stay?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on August 04, 2009, 11:21:03 AM
Quote from: boojangles on August 04, 2009, 11:14:32 AM
D-Day as right. We haven't heard from many posters how their clubs are voting? I know my own has voted to keep him and we know that Killeshandra are against him.
Its only Club Chairmen and Secretarys allowed at the meetings this year,but Im sure we will all hear soon enough.
Drung mentioned a 65-35 split,I think it may b even closer.If it is, I wonder will TC stay?

My clubs were split on what should happen, but the stronger characters wanted him out so  I am just presuming that they will get their way. All will be revealed in time.

Look if Carr wanted to quit he would have done it by now, once a majority votes to keep him he will stay. Democracy and all that :)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on August 04, 2009, 11:24:34 AM
Quote from: put-it-up on August 04, 2009, 11:21:03 AM
Quote from: boojangles on August 04, 2009, 11:14:32 AM
D-Day as right. We haven't heard from many posters how their clubs are voting? I know my own has voted to keep him and we know that Killeshandra are against him.
Its only Club Chairmen and Secretarys allowed at the meetings this year,but Im sure we will all hear soon enough.
Drung mentioned a 65-35 split,I think it may b even closer.If it is, I wonder will TC stay?

My clubs were split on what should happen, but the stronger characters wanted him out so  I am just presuming that they will get their way. All will be revealed in time.

Look if Carr wanted to quit he would have done it by now, once a majority votes to keep him he will stay. Democracy and all that :)

Doubt Bailieboro would b happy hear ya say that!!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on August 04, 2009, 11:45:29 AM
Quote from: boojangles on August 04, 2009, 11:24:34 AM
Quote from: put-it-up on August 04, 2009, 11:21:03 AM
Quote from: boojangles on August 04, 2009, 11:14:32 AM
D-Day as right. We haven't heard from many posters how their clubs are voting? I know my own has voted to keep him and we know that Killeshandra are against him.
Its only Club Chairmen and Secretarys allowed at the meetings this year,but Im sure we will all hear soon enough.
Drung mentioned a 65-35 split,I think it may b even closer.If it is, I wonder will TC stay?

My clubs were split on what should happen, but the stronger characters wanted him out so  I am just presuming that they will get their way. All will be revealed in time.

Look if Carr wanted to quit he would have done it by now, once a majority votes to keep him he will stay. Democracy and all that :)

Doubt Bailieboro would b happy hear ya say that!!

Me and my fat fingers. Obviously that was meant to be the singular version of the word!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on August 04, 2009, 11:19:49 PM
Tommy is staying... we won 30 votes to 23... a ringing endorsement if ever there was one
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: orangeman on August 04, 2009, 11:23:02 PM
Quote from: Celt_Man on August 04, 2009, 11:19:49 PM
Tommy is staying... we won 30 votes to 23... a ringing endorsement if ever there was one


The good times are only around the corner !  ;)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: handballer09 on August 04, 2009, 11:47:39 PM
http://www.anglocelt.ie/sport/localgaa/articles/2009/08/04/390046-carr-sensationally-holds-on/
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on August 04, 2009, 11:58:48 PM
57% wanted him to stay.Well I think they have made the right decision.I hope there is a few changes with his back-up though.At least another selector is needed IMO,somebody who really will rock the boat.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on August 05, 2009, 01:13:37 AM
Quote from: boojangles on August 04, 2009, 11:58:48 PM
57% wanted him to stay.Well I think they have made the right decision.I hope there is a few changes with his back-up though.At least another selector is needed IMO,somebody who really will rock the boat.

I knew it would be close and looks like the county  really were split on this one

Glad he is staying but heard one club proposed the u21's be run by a separate Management. Is that true -would fully support that call aswell as strenghtining up the backroom team of the senior management.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on August 05, 2009, 03:00:12 PM
I am absolutely delighted at this outcome.
Hopefully a few members of the county board will resign in the wake of this fiasco.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: CavanCola on August 05, 2009, 08:54:42 PM

http://www.herald.ie/sport/gaelic-football/carrs-cavan-future-still-in-the-balance-1851448.html

(it might not be over yet.)

TOM Carr's future as Cavan manager still hangs in the balance, despite surviving a vote of 'no-confidence' at a county board meeting last night. In a remarkable turnaround, the motion tabled by Laragh United and seconded by Gowna, was defeated by 30 votes to 23, with a single abstentation and one spoilt vote.

As recently as last week, Carr (pictured) had been asked to step down by members of the county committee but refused to do so and having received the backing of the players, Carr dug his heels in.

However, Carr confirmed to the Evening Herald this morning that he still had reservations about the vote, which included votes in his favour from members of the county board executive, and would wait until the weekend before deciding whether to accept the post again for 2010.

"I'm just meeting the rest of the management team today and we'll have a chat about it," said Carr. "The vote isn't just a matter of 30 to 23. The executive members would have been mandated to vote for me. So it would suggest that the majority of clubs are against it."

"The primary thing here is - can you operate in an environment and can the players operate in an environment if there's unwarranted and unnecessary pressure on them? That's certainly my concern."
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on August 05, 2009, 10:06:28 PM
Very happy that Carr has won this vote and stuck 2 fingers up to some of these dinosaurs on the county board. As BHM said I hope it results in some fresh blood and fresh ideas coming into the organisation. The problem his opposition had was that they had no plan B. Its easy to knock everything but not so easy to come up with alternatives. I hope Carr gives it another year now as if he doesn't it will not reflect well on him either.
Know its time for TC to learn some lessons. He needs to get out and about and watch some games. If he is getting the money that I've heard he needs to earn it and watch some club champ matches. Maybe he needs a selector from the northern side of the county too? He also needs to begin taking no shit from any player and he needs to get his players working harder on the field. That for me was the most disappointing aspect of our performances - no fight.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Drung on August 06, 2009, 10:33:24 AM
Is the secretary more or less untoucable there now that he's full-time?

Carr will stay lads, don't so naieve. He is wringing the last drop of media attention out of it that he can.
Mark my words, he'll stay. Which will be amazing when you consider what Cavan did this year, the fact that the majority of the clubs don't want him and the majority of the officers on the executive clearly don't and looked for him to be removed but have been swayed into toeing the party line.

On another point, the arrogance of the executive never ceases to amaze. Who gave them the right to ask for Carr's resignation? They are up themselves and out of touch with the clubs.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on August 06, 2009, 10:55:31 AM
Quote from: Drung on August 06, 2009, 10:33:24 AM
Is the secretary more or less untoucable there now that he's full-time?

Carr will stay lads, don't so naieve. He is wringing the last drop of media attention out of it that he can.
Mark my words, he'll stay. Which will be amazing when you consider what Cavan did this year, the fact that the majority of the clubs don't want him and the majority of the officers on the executive clearly don't and looked for him to be removed but have been swayed into toeing the party line.

On another point, the arrogance of the executive never ceases to amaze. Who gave them the right to ask for Carr's resignation? They are up themselves and out of touch with the clubs.


Exactly what I said a page or two ago. Who do they think they are acting with no mandate like that. That is where the axe should fall. I hear  that the PRO is on the radio pretty much suggesting that even though Carr won the vote he should leave anyway - does that man not know when to shut his big gob.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on August 06, 2009, 11:02:51 AM
Terrible tragedy up at Gallon Lough yesterday evening, young Simon Delaney a former county minor and under 21 player, drowned while trying to save 3 lads who got into difficulty when their boat capsized. Another Dublin man who tried to assist is also missing while all three occupants of the boat survived. Apparently Simon was on his way to training in Killinkere when he spotted the lads in trouble but got into difficulty himself as he tried to save them.

Thoughts are with the families.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on August 06, 2009, 11:06:08 AM
Puts Tommy Carr into perspective.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Drung on August 06, 2009, 11:27:47 AM
Terrible news. RIP.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on August 06, 2009, 12:22:58 PM
Quote from: Homer on August 06, 2009, 11:02:51 AM
Terrible tragedy up at Gallon Lough yesterday evening, young Simon Delaney a former county minor and under 21 player, drowned while trying to save 3 lads who got into difficulty when their boat capsized. Another Dublin man who tried to assist is also missing while all three occupants of the boat survived. Apparently Simon was on his way to training in Killinkere when he spotted the lads in trouble but got into difficulty himself as he tried to save them.

Thoughts are with the families.

Jaysus thats terrible. RIP.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on August 06, 2009, 02:34:07 PM
Thoughts and Prayers are with the family.Unbelieveable tragedy.Although its no consolation to the family,they should be very proud of Simon who died trying to save lads he didnt even know I believe. RIP.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tierworker blue on August 06, 2009, 02:55:36 PM
There are'nt many who would've been as brave and jumped in to save others...That was a serious act of selflessness.
RIP.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on August 06, 2009, 03:18:12 PM
 What a brave lad, RIP  and condolences to his family and teammates.
Cant imagine what they are going through right now.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on August 06, 2009, 06:12:23 PM
Celt Man your games hardly on this evening?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on August 06, 2009, 09:56:38 PM
Quote from: boojangles on August 06, 2009, 06:12:23 PM
Celt Man your games hardly on this evening?
Sorry boss, was away and didn't see that till now... Obviously not on tonight - was moved to Saturday at 3 in Breffni
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Hangsangwidge on August 07, 2009, 12:35:44 AM
Quote from: RednBlack on August 06, 2009, 01:16:34 PM
What a brave young man. A real hero. Ar dheis dé go raibh a anam
Thanks for that, he's my first cousin. A brave lad and sadly missed.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: jimjim on August 07, 2009, 09:40:33 AM
Condolences with family and friends of the late Simon Delaney, a terrible tragedy. RIP 
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on August 07, 2009, 01:37:36 PM
Anyone want to make predictions for this weekend's fare?

Hopefully we can do it against Lacken but in the league game, we were doing well for 45 minutes and then Lacken over ran us.  Heres hoping anyway. 

How will your clubs do?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Drung on August 07, 2009, 02:37:47 PM
Someone post the fixtures, let's get it on...
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: RednBlack on August 07, 2009, 02:51:26 PM
Friday, 07th August 2009 @ 7.45pm
Hotel Kilmore Senior Championship
Gowna v Ramor Utd
Venue:  Lavey GAA Grounds, New Inns
Referee:  Joe McQuillan
Linesmen:  Sean Smith & Philip Devine 

Cuchulainns v Castlerahan
Venue:  O'Raghallaigh Park, Kingscourt
Referee:  Donal Reilly
Linesmen:  Ollie Donohoe & Peter Fahy

Mullahoran v Ballinagh
Venue:  Kinspan Breffni Park
Referee:  Martin Sexton
Linesmen:  Noel Mooney & Ollie Henry

Saturday, 08th August 2009 @ 7.30pm
Hotel Kilmore Senior Championship

Cavan Gaels v Crosserlough
Venue:  Crowe Memorial Park, Lacken
Referee:  Robbie McDermott
Linesmen:  James Clarke & Pat Clarke

Saturday, 08th August 2009 @ 7.30pm
Hotel Kilmore Intermediate Championship

Drumlane v Cootehill (Game at 3pm)
Venue:  Kingspan Breffni Park
Referee:  Seamus O'Connor
Linesmen:  Raymond Tynan & John Smith

Drumgoon v Bailieboro
Venue:  Kingspan Breffni Park
Referee:  Oliver O'Reilly
Linesmen:  Jim Giblin & Tony McDonald

Ballymachugh v Drung
Venue:  St Matthews Park, Crosskeys
Referee:  Jim Hyland
Linesmen:  John Pat Martin & Felim O'Reilly

Saturday, 08th August 2009 @ 7pm
Hotel Kilmore Junior Championship

Maghera v Shannon Gaels (Game at 6pm)
Venue: Kingspan Breffni Park
Referee:  Brian Seagrave
Linesmen:  Tony Gregory & Declan McCabe

Kildallon v Templeport
Venue:  Corlough GAA Grounds
Referee:  Jimmy Galligan - Lacken
Linesmen:  Liam Kelly & John Emmo

Shercock v Cavan Gaels (Game at 5pm)
Venue:  PJ Duke Park, Stradone
Referee:  Margaret Farrelly
Linesmen:  Paddy Carroll & Raymond Kelly

Cornafean v Mountnugent
Venue:  Our Lady of Lourdes Park, Mullahoran
Referee:  Martin Brady - Lacken
Linesmen:  Packie Smith & MG Brady

Sunday, 09th August 2009 @ 3.30pm
Hotel Kilmore Senior Championship

Killygarry v Kingscourt
Venue:  Kinspan Breffni Park
Referee:  M G Brady
Linesmen:  Ciaran O'Reilly & Gavin Smith

Denn v Lacken
Venue:  Dr Plunkett Memorial Park, Kilnaleck
Referee:  Raymond Kelly
Linesmen:  Felim O'Reilly & Brendan Sweeney

Sunday, 09th August 2009 @ 2pm
Hotel Kilmore Intermediate Championship

Lavey v Ballyhaise
Venue:  Kingspan Breffni Park
Referee:  Gerry Sheridan
Linesmen:  Joe McQuillan & Chris McCaffrey

Drumalee v Killeshandra
Venue:  Ballinagh GAA Grounds, Ballinagh
Referee:  Martin Brady - Ballinagh
Linesmen:  Brian Seagrave & Liam Kelly

Sunday, 09th August 2009 @ 7pm
Hotel Kilmore Intermediate Championship
Killinkere v Kill
Venue:  Kingspan Breffni Park
Referee:  Ronan Bannon
Linesmen:  Robbie McDermott & Brian Crowe

Sunday, 09th August 2009 @ 2pm
Hotel Kilmore Junior Championship

Munterconnacht v Swanlinbar
Venue:  Terry Coyle Park
Referee:  Packie Smith
Linesmen:  Damien Brady & Harry Conaty

Tuesday, 11th August 2009 @ 8pm
Cavan Waste Disposal Ltd A.C.F.L. Division 4 Round 12
Knockbride v Denn
Referee:  Peter Fahy
Drumalee v Ballinagh
Referee:  Brian Seagrave

Wednesday, 12th August 2009 @ 7.45pm
Cavan Waste Disposal Ltd A.C.F.L. Division 4 Round 12
Maghera v Cuchulainns
Referee:  Ciaran McCarville
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on August 07, 2009, 03:40:20 PM
Gowna v Ramor Utd -Very tight one,Ramor scraped it last year after ET,Gowna may just hav one last kick in them
Cuchulainns v Castlerahan-Hard to look past Castlerahan
Mullahoran v Ballinagh-Mullahoran are past masters at grinding out wins,expect them to shade this one
Cavan Gaels v Crosserlough-Gaels
Drumlane v Cootehill- All to play for here,Drumlane hav a strong defence which may edge it
Drumgoon v Bailieboro-Havent seen BBoro this year,Drumgoon are hit and miss but they may have the fire power to win this
Ballymachugh v Drung-Drung
Maghera v Shannon Gaels-Shannon Gaels
Kildallon v Templeport-Local derby-draw
Shercock v Cavan Gaels-Gaels hav injury worries but with Shercock missing a few regulars since they met in the League,Gaels may edge it
Cornafean v Mountnugent-Mountnugent going well and may prove too strong
Killygarry v Kingscourt-Draw is enough for Killygarry,Stars need a win,think the Stars may get it
Denn v Lacken-Denn becoming Championship specialists of late should have enough
Lavey v Ballyhaise-2 Favourites come head to head,Lavey hav better backs,Ballyhaise hav better forwards-Ballyhaise to edge it
Drumalee v Killeshandra
Killinkere v Kill- game will hardly go ahead??
Munchies v Swad-Swad
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Drung on August 07, 2009, 03:50:13 PM
Agree o them all BJ bar two, I'll take Lavey and B'boro both to win.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on August 07, 2009, 03:51:54 PM
Quote from: Drung on August 07, 2009, 03:50:13 PM
Agree o them all BJ bar two, I'll take Lavey and B'boro both to win.

And the Killeshandra game?? I left that one for obvious reasons.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on August 07, 2009, 04:00:51 PM
Quote from: boojangles on August 07, 2009, 03:51:54 PM
Quote from: Drung on August 07, 2009, 03:50:13 PM
Agree o them all BJ bar two, I'll take Lavey and B'boro both to win.

And the Killeshandra game?? I left that one for obvious reasons.

I doubt you'll have any trouble there. Spoke with good few of the lads last w'end and they all tell me that the management has made league promotion a clear priority this season. So much so that amazingly the players seem to have switched of for the championship.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on August 07, 2009, 04:21:37 PM

Gowna v Ramor Utd -Gowna by 1
Cuchulainns v Castlerahan- Castlerahan
Mullahoran v Ballinagh-Ballinagh
Cavan Gaels v Crosserlough-Gaels
Drumlane v Cootehill- Cootehill
Drumgoon v Bailieboro-Bboro
Ballymachugh v Drung-Drung
Maghera v Shannon Gaels-Shannon Gaels
Kildallon v Templeport-Killdallon
Shercock v Cavan Gaels-Gaels
Cornafean v Mountnugent-Mountnugent
Killygarry v Kingscourt-K'court
Denn v Lacken-Lacken
Lavey v Ballyhaise-Lavey by 15
Drumalee v Killeshandra-Drumalee by 8
Killinkere v Kill-
Munchies v Swad-Swad
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on August 07, 2009, 05:23:48 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on August 07, 2009, 04:00:51 PM
Quote from: boojangles on August 07, 2009, 03:51:54 PM
Quote from: Drung on August 07, 2009, 03:50:13 PM
Agree o them all BJ bar two, I'll take Lavey and B'boro both to win.

And the Killeshandra game?? I left that one for obvious reasons.

I doubt you'll have any trouble there. Spoke with good few of the lads last w'end and they all tell me that the management has made league promotion a clear priority this season. So much so that amazingly the players seem to have switched of for the championship.

Very dangerous situation for us,Your lads have nothing to play for.No pressure. I did read an interview somewhere a while back with Ciaran O Reilly and he more or less said the same thing.Fair play to Killeshandra they look to have promotion sown up.They may have the right idea,before Redhills last year the 4 previous Intermediate winners had been playing Division 1 football.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on August 07, 2009, 06:39:36 PM
Quote from: boojangles on August 07, 2009, 05:23:48 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on August 07, 2009, 04:00:51 PM
Quote from: boojangles on August 07, 2009, 03:51:54 PM
Quote from: Drung on August 07, 2009, 03:50:13 PM
Agree o them all BJ bar two, I'll take Lavey and B'boro both to win.

And the Killeshandra game?? I left that one for obvious reasons.

I doubt you'll have any trouble there. Spoke with good few of the lads last w'end and they all tell me that the management has made league promotion a clear priority this season. So much so that amazingly the players seem to have switched of for the championship.

Very dangerous situation for us,Your lads have nothing to play for.No pressure. I did read an interview somewhere a while back with Ciaran O Reilly and he more or less said the same thing.Fair play to Killeshandra they look to have promotion sown up.They may have the right idea,before Redhills last year the 4 previous Intermediate winners had been playing Division 1 football.

True enough, that is the flip side. A team with no pressure on can be dangerous.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on August 07, 2009, 10:23:01 PM
Draw in the Park.Details later
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on August 07, 2009, 10:28:04 PM
Mullahoran snatched a draw from the jaws of victory.  

A low scoring game that Mullahoran kicked away and were leading up to the last minute when they gave away a free about 40 yards out.  So they crowded the kicker and wouldn't retreat to try and intimidate him.  So the ref brought in front of the goal and we had a draw.

Was impressed with the Ballinagh Number 2 (I'd say cornerback but positions don't count).  He didn't seem very big but he was comfortable under the dropping ball, caught well and always seemed to come out with the ball.  Has he been tried at county level?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on August 07, 2009, 11:00:42 PM
Quote from: Denn Forever on August 07, 2009, 10:28:04 PM
Mullahoran snatched a draw from the jaws of victory.  

A low scoring game that Mullahoran kicked away and were leading up to the last minute when they gave away a free about 40 yards out.  So they crowded the kicker and wouldn't retreat to try and intimidate him.  So the ref brought in front of the goal and we had a draw.

Was impressed with the Ballinagh Number 2 (I'd say cornerback but positions don't count).  He didn't seem very big but he was comfortable under the dropping ball, caught well and always seemed to come out with the ball.  Has he been tried at county level?

They as in Mad Eddie who ran from the forwards to run about 6 yards in front of the kicker and was warned twice to move back before free was moved in.  Pity because he scored a great goal and a superb point after it which was worth enough to win most games.  He is some entertainment though!!

The Mullahorn number Daniel Something - I'll look at the programme later - had a super game followed his man out the field and scored 3 points for play... 3 very good points actually....

Ref played for a draw big time, Gumley hit the post with a free when 3 points down and the 4 minutes were almost up... Finnegan scored a cracker to leave one between them and we were all sure the whistle was gonna go.  Ref gave a very soft free against Philip Brady in the middle of the field from the next kick out, then a soft enough one for the equalising free.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on August 07, 2009, 11:27:34 PM
Quote from: Celt_Man on August 07, 2009, 11:00:42 PM
Quote from: Denn Forever on August 07, 2009, 10:28:04 PM
Mullahoran snatched a draw from the jaws of victory.  

A low scoring game that Mullahoran kicked away and were leading up to the last minute when they gave away a free about 40 yards out.  So they crowded the kicker and wouldn't retreat to try and intimidate him.  So the ref brought in front of the goal and we had a draw.

Was impressed with the Ballinagh Number 2 (I'd say cornerback but positions don't count).  He didn't seem very big but he was comfortable under the dropping ball, caught well and always seemed to come out with the ball.  Has he been tried at county level?

They as in Mad Eddie who ran from the forwards to run about 6 yards in front of the kicker and was warned twice to move back before free was moved in.  Pity because he scored a great goal and a superb point after it which was worth enough to win most games.  He is some entertainment though!!

The Mullahorn number Daniel Something - I'll look at the programme later - had a super game followed his man out the field and scored 3 points for play... 3 very good points actually....

Ref played for a draw big time, Gumley hit the post with a free when 3 points down and the 4 minutes were almost up... Finnegan scored a cracker to leave one between them and we were all sure the whistle was gonna go.  Ref gave a very soft free against Philip Brady in the middle of the field from the next kick out, then a soft enough one for the equalising free.

Whats new from Eddie ha.Headcase.
Daniel Smith-wing back for Mullahoran-very good footballer.Very quick.Has only really made their Senior team in the last few years.He is about 26.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4sam on August 08, 2009, 09:20:31 AM
Well lads, we bet Cuchulainns last nte in Kingscourt, 3-19 to 1-10. They were terrible so its hard to know how good we actually were, we had at least 4/5 opportunities to take goals but we just tipped them over, about 10 wides and dropped a few short. The good thing is we are after breezing through our group and when the draw was made every1 thought it was goin to be a tight group. We seem to be the closest challengers to the Gaels at the minute, so fingers crossed we get a good run this year.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on August 08, 2009, 11:08:38 AM
Any word from the Ramor match? Wheres Hollow Man when ya need him? ::) ::)
Everythin in Castlerahan seems to be going well,your Juniors put up a mighty impressive score the other evening against Drumalee.Lots of lads are fighting for places Id imagine. Keep the feet on the ground though.Cavan Gaels still seem to be way ahead of anybody but time will tell.Id love to see Castlerahan do the business this year if just for a change and it could only be good for Cavan football.And hell knows we need something like it.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4sam on August 08, 2009, 11:12:47 AM
Gowna won by 4 points, don't know anything about the game just the result.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on August 08, 2009, 11:44:23 AM
Quote from: cavan4sam on August 08, 2009, 09:20:31 AM
Well lads, we bet Cuchulainns last nte in Kingscourt, 3-19 to 1-10. They were terrible so its hard to know how good we actually were, we had at least 4/5 opportunities to take goals but we just tipped them over, about 10 wides and dropped a few short. The good thing is we are after breezing through our group and when the draw was made every1 thought it was goin to be a tight group. We seem to be the closest challengers to the Gaels at the minute, so fingers crossed we get a good run this year.
I'd have thought that that might be a bad thing as you haven't really had a test yet. Where is Alan Mulvey playing for you this year?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: An Laoch on August 08, 2009, 12:23:13 PM
I was at the Gowna game, they probably should have won by more. They were well on top most of the game but gave away a goal just before half time to bring the gap back to 2 points. Most of the Ramor scores up to that stage were close range frees.

Ramor had a man sent off early in the 2nd half and Gowna were well on top but didn't really open a gap. Inevitably Ramor came back and closed the gap to 2 points near the end but Gowna got the late scores to secure the wind.

Nasty elbow from the Ramor No.12 into the cheek of the Gowna No.7 left a sore looking mark on the Gowna man. Happened well away from the ref but was close enough to the linesman. Ramor man got away with it anyway.

Tall fairhead lad wearing 12 but playing midfield for Gowna was man of the match in my opinion.

Apologies for the lack of specifics on names!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on August 08, 2009, 12:34:46 PM
Quote from: An Laoch on August 08, 2009, 12:23:13 PM
I was at the Gowna game, they probably should have won by more. They were well on top most of the game but gave away a goal just before half time to bring the gap back to 2 points. Most of the Ramor scores up to that stage were close range frees.

Ramor had a man sent off early in the 2nd half and Gowna were well on top but didn't really open a gap. Inevitably Ramor came back and closed the gap to 2 points near the end but Gowna got the late scores to secure the wind.

Nasty elbow from the Ramor No.12 into the cheek of the Gowna No.7 left a sore looking mark on the Gowna man. Happened well away from the ref but was close enough to the linesman. Ramor man got away with it anyway.

Tall fairhead lad wearing 12 but playing midfield for Gowna was man of the match in my opinion.

Apologies for the lack of specifics on names!
Niall Madden perhaps?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on August 08, 2009, 12:42:14 PM
Very surprised games were not called off this week as a mark of respect for Simon.

There will probably be a minutes silence for him before the games but I think a minutes applause would be more suited after what he done..

Big weekend for most clubs, think this situation where we are going to have a load of play offs is a joke. I think I prefer the old format. There is no real cuttint edge stuff about it this year.

Was talking to Peter Donnelly and he said up in Tyrone it is straight knock out and there is no back door. Now that is competitve.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: An Laoch on August 08, 2009, 12:44:48 PM
Quote from: Lawrence of Knockbride on August 08, 2009, 12:34:46 PM

Niall Madden perhaps?

Yeah, I heard lads calling him Niall alright. Good player.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on August 08, 2009, 01:19:04 PM
Quote from: put-it-up on August 08, 2009, 12:42:14 PM
Very surprised games were not called off this week as a mark of respect for Simon.

There will probably be a minutes silence for him before the games but I think a minutes applause would be more suited after what he done..

Big weekend for most clubs, think this situation where we are going to have a load of play offs is a joke. I think I prefer the old format. There is no real cuttint edge stuff about it this year.

Was talking to Peter Donnelly and he said up in Tyrone it is straight knock out and there is no back door. Now that is competitve.

Well its better than the way it used to be when there was 5 and 6 teams in a group like they have in Meath at the moment.The year Lacken won the Intermediate Championship in 2004 they were beaten 3 times.I have never experienced straight Knock -out at Senior level but TBH I think it would hinder football in the county.Club footballers just wouldn't commit for the chance to play one game in the summer.Lose it and all the hard work is down the drain.Play-offs are the same as Replays really.And you are bound to get replays in straight knock-out anyway.So I don't see the difference.
I can't speak for all but I know the 2 Championship games I have played in this year were very competitive and played at a good pace,with only a kick of a ball between the 2 teams. Maybe that has to do with the group we are in ,where all teams know they couldn't slip up,but surely all teams should have that attitude.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on August 08, 2009, 01:38:04 PM
Very surprised games were not called off this week as a mark of respect for Simon.

There will probably be a minutes silence for him before the games but I think a minutes applause would be more suited after what he done..

I was at the game in the park last night and the minute's silence was a beutiful thing.  Most fittting for the bravery of the lad.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on August 08, 2009, 01:54:02 PM
Couldn't disagree with a lot of the comments regarding the Ballinagh - Mullahoran game. We were lucky and Martin Sexton was very kind to us towards the end. Eddie really went from hero to villain, he was given a second yellow after the match but that will mean nothing unless he has already got the line this year.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on August 08, 2009, 01:59:21 PM
Quote from: Denn Forever on August 08, 2009, 01:38:04 PM
Very surprised games were not called off this week as a mark of respect for Simon.

There will probably be a minutes silence for him before the games but I think a minutes applause would be more suited after what he done..

I was at the game in the park last night and the minute's silence was a beutiful thing.  Most fittting for the bravery of the lad.

Would agree with that, it's a very fitting gesture when it's observed as well it was last night.

The minutes applause thing is used in situations where the silence might be interrupted by loud-mouth idiots but I think we're safe enough from that.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4sam on August 08, 2009, 02:11:21 PM
Quote from: Lawrence of Knockbride on August 08, 2009, 11:44:23 AM
Quote from: cavan4sam on August 08, 2009, 09:20:31 AM
Well lads, we bet Cuchulainns last nte in Kingscourt, 3-19 to 1-10. They were terrible so its hard to know how good we actually were, we had at least 4/5 opportunities to take goals but we just tipped them over, about 10 wides and dropped a few short. The good thing is we are after breezing through our group and when the draw was made every1 thought it was goin to be a tight group. We seem to be the closest challengers to the Gaels at the minute, so fingers crossed we get a good run this year.
I'd have thought that that might be a bad thing as you haven't really had a test yet. Where is Alan Mulvey playing for you this year?

What i mean by that is the teams that are in our group would have all thought they would beat us, last year Ramor knocked us out of the championship, the year before Cuchulainns bet us and Gowna were supposedly going all out to win the championship this year.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on August 08, 2009, 06:43:28 PM
We beat Drumlane today by a point 1 - 4 to 8 points.... shaky stuff in the end but really should have won by a good few points.... away to the pub train for the quarter finals
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on August 08, 2009, 08:58:33 PM
Goonies beat BBoro,Drung bet Bmachugh. 3 way play-off now,hold the whole thing up now for 2 weeks >:(
Put-It-Up maybe You were right!!!
Well done Celt Man-yas made hard work of it and the referee playing 8 minutes over time but yas held out.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on August 08, 2009, 09:58:40 PM
Went up to the Balieboro v Drung game. Poor enough fair IMO. Fanin ran riot in the first half and must have kicked 6 points. Can someone tell me WHO decided that he was a corner-back at inter-county level?
The double header in Breffni tomorrow looks interesting and might be worth going to even with all the sport on TV. Hopefully it'll be better value than the tenner I paid this evening.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: KIDDO 4 on August 08, 2009, 10:08:07 PM
Cavan Gaels defeatedCrosserlough  2.15 to 1.4 tonight in the .Cavan senior championship.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on August 09, 2009, 11:26:49 AM
Quote from: Lawrence of Knockbride on August 08, 2009, 09:58:40 PM
Went up to the Balieboro v Drung game. Poor enough fair IMO. Fanin ran riot in the first half and must have kicked 6 points. Can someone tell me WHO decided that he was a corner-back at inter-county level?
The double header in Breffni tomorrow looks interesting and might be worth going to even with all the sport on TV. Hopefully it'll be better value than the tenner I paid this evening.

Few pints in ya larry ?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on August 09, 2009, 11:49:47 AM
Quote from: Lawrence of Knockbride on August 08, 2009, 09:58:40 PM
Went up to the Balieboro v Drung game. Poor enough fair IMO. Fanin ran riot in the first half and must have kicked 6 points. Can someone tell me WHO decided that he was a corner-back at inter-county level?
The double header in Breffni tomorrow looks interesting and might be worth going to even with all the sport on TV. Hopefully it'll be better value than the tenner I paid this evening.

Were you that involved in the game itself that you forgot who was playing Lawrence?

Games in breffni do look interesting today, thinking of going down only I have an orange light on in the car and i spent my money last night on pints!8)had to drown my sorrows!

Fannin was excellent last night.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on August 09, 2009, 12:01:34 PM
Quote from: put-it-up on August 09, 2009, 11:49:47 AM
Quote from: Lawrence of Knockbride on August 08, 2009, 09:58:40 PM
Went up to the Balieboro v Drung game. Poor enough fair IMO. Fanin ran riot in the first half and must have kicked 6 points. Can someone tell me WHO decided that he was a corner-back at inter-county level?
The double header in Breffni tomorrow looks interesting and might be worth going to even with all the sport on TV. Hopefully it'll be better value than the tenner I paid this evening.

Were you that involved in the game itself that you forgot who was playing Lawrence?

Games in breffni do look interesting today, thinking of going down only I have an orange light on in the car and i spent my money last night on pints!8)had to drown my sorrows!

Fannin was excellent last night.

You better ring up the Cavan Post and let them know that your not in the quater finals.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on August 09, 2009, 12:36:39 PM
Quote from: cavan4ever on August 09, 2009, 12:01:34 PM
Quote from: put-it-up on August 09, 2009, 11:49:47 AM
Quote from: Lawrence of Knockbride on August 08, 2009, 09:58:40 PM
Went up to the Balieboro v Drung game. Poor enough fair IMO. Fanin ran riot in the first half and must have kicked 6 points. Can someone tell me WHO decided that he was a corner-back at inter-county level?
The double header in Breffni tomorrow looks interesting and might be worth going to even with all the sport on TV. Hopefully it'll be better value than the tenner I paid this evening.

Were you that involved in the game itself that you forgot who was playing Lawrence?

Games in breffni do look interesting today, thinking of going down only I have an orange light on in the car and i spent my money last night on pints!8)had to drown my sorrows!

Fannin was excellent last night.

You better ring up the Cavan Post and let them know that your not in the quater finals.

Huh?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on August 09, 2009, 12:48:45 PM
Quote from: put-it-up on August 09, 2009, 12:36:39 PM
Quote from: cavan4ever on August 09, 2009, 12:01:34 PM
Quote from: put-it-up on August 09, 2009, 11:49:47 AM
Quote from: Lawrence of Knockbride on August 08, 2009, 09:58:40 PM
Went up to the Balieboro v Drung game. Poor enough fair IMO. Fanin ran riot in the first half and must have kicked 6 points. Can someone tell me WHO decided that he was a corner-back at inter-county level?
The double header in Breffni tomorrow looks interesting and might be worth going to even with all the sport on TV. Hopefully it'll be better value than the tenner I paid this evening.

Were you that involved in the game itself that you forgot who was playing Lawrence?

Games in breffni do look interesting today, thinking of going down only I have an orange light on in the car and i spent my money last night on pints!8)had to drown my sorrows!

Fannin was excellent last night.

You better ring up the Cavan Post and let them know that your not in the quater finals.

Huh?

They had you as qualified for the quaters last week, did you not get to the shop to read it  ;)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on August 09, 2009, 12:57:25 PM
Quote from: cavan4ever on August 09, 2009, 12:48:45 PM
Quote from: put-it-up on August 09, 2009, 12:36:39 PM
Quote from: cavan4ever on August 09, 2009, 12:01:34 PM
Quote from: put-it-up on August 09, 2009, 11:49:47 AM
Quote from: Lawrence of Knockbride on August 08, 2009, 09:58:40 PM
Went up to the Balieboro v Drung game. Poor enough fair IMO. Fanin ran riot in the first half and must have kicked 6 points. Can someone tell me WHO decided that he was a corner-back at inter-county level?
The double header in Breffni tomorrow looks interesting and might be worth going to even with all the sport on TV. Hopefully it'll be better value than the tenner I paid this evening.

Were you that involved in the game itself that you forgot who was playing Lawrence?

Games in breffni do look interesting today, thinking of going down only I have an orange light on in the car and i spent my money last night on pints!8)had to drown my sorrows!

Fannin was excellent last night.

You better ring up the Cavan Post and let them know that your not in the quater finals.

Huh?

They had you as qualified for the quaters last week, did you not get to the shop to read it  ;)

No didn't see that! Went on a mini-holiday for a few days and never got round to checking it when i got home.
Ah well what would you expect! :D

Our group is going to hold the show up for the next two weeks now. Championship wont be over til October at this rate!!!

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on August 09, 2009, 01:09:40 PM
Quote from: put-it-up on August 09, 2009, 12:57:25 PM
Quote from: cavan4ever on August 09, 2009, 12:48:45 PM
Quote from: put-it-up on August 09, 2009, 12:36:39 PM
Quote from: cavan4ever on August 09, 2009, 12:01:34 PM
Quote from: put-it-up on August 09, 2009, 11:49:47 AM
Quote from: Lawrence of Knockbride on August 08, 2009, 09:58:40 PM
Went up to the Balieboro v Drung game. Poor enough fair IMO. Fanin ran riot in the first half and must have kicked 6 points. Can someone tell me WHO decided that he was a corner-back at inter-county level?
The double header in Breffni tomorrow looks interesting and might be worth going to even with all the sport on TV. Hopefully it'll be better value than the tenner I paid this evening.

Were you that involved in the game itself that you forgot who was playing Lawrence?

Games in breffni do look interesting today, thinking of going down only I have an orange light on in the car and i spent my money last night on pints!8)had to drown my sorrows!

Fannin was excellent last night.

You better ring up the Cavan Post and let them know that your not in the quater finals.

Huh?

They had you as qualified for the quaters last week, did you not get to the shop to read it  ;)

No didn't see that! Went on a mini-holiday for a few days and never got round to checking it when i got home.
Ah well what would you expect! :D

Our group is going to hold the show up for the next two weeks now. Championship wont be over til October at this rate!!!



I think it is October every year before its over.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on August 09, 2009, 01:19:04 PM
Quote from: cavan4ever on August 09, 2009, 01:09:40 PM
Quote from: put-it-up on August 09, 2009, 12:57:25 PM
Quote from: cavan4ever on August 09, 2009, 12:48:45 PM
Quote from: put-it-up on August 09, 2009, 12:36:39 PM
Quote from: cavan4ever on August 09, 2009, 12:01:34 PM
Quote from: put-it-up on August 09, 2009, 11:49:47 AM
Quote from: Lawrence of Knockbride on August 08, 2009, 09:58:40 PM
Went up to the Balieboro v Drung game. Poor enough fair IMO. Fanin ran riot in the first half and must have kicked 6 points. Can someone tell me WHO decided that he was a corner-back at inter-county level?
The double header in Breffni tomorrow looks interesting and might be worth going to even with all the sport on TV. Hopefully it'll be better value than the tenner I paid this evening.

Were you that involved in the game itself that you forgot who was playing Lawrence?

Games in breffni do look interesting today, thinking of going down only I have an orange light on in the car and i spent my money last night on pints!8)had to drown my sorrows!

Fannin was excellent last night.

You better ring up the Cavan Post and let them know that your not in the quater finals.

Huh?

They had you as qualified for the quaters last week, did you not get to the shop to read it  ;)

No didn't see that! Went on a mini-holiday for a few days and never got round to checking it when i got home.
Ah well what would you expect! :D

Our group is going to hold the show up for the next two weeks now. Championship wont be over til October at this rate!!!



I think it is October every year before its over.

Ye but I am thinking more Haloween this time around!

opted against going to Breffni today - gona be two close games I would imagine

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on August 09, 2009, 01:32:27 PM
Anyone hear that Carr quit, heard it yesterday but it was from now way a official source.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on August 09, 2009, 01:38:43 PM
Quote from: cavan4ever on August 09, 2009, 01:32:27 PM
Anyone hear that Carr quit, heard it yesterday but it was from now way a official source.

Haven't really heard much iin the last few days.

Was told he was going to quit after he talked to his selectors on thursday but that obviousy was not the case. I think he will stay now, but once announce it until the dust settles.

Anyone else been hearing anything??/
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on August 09, 2009, 01:44:36 PM
Quote from: put-it-up on August 09, 2009, 11:49:47 AM
Quote from: Lawrence of Knockbride on August 08, 2009, 09:58:40 PM
Went up to the Balieboro v Drung game. Poor enough fair IMO. Fanin ran riot in the first half and must have kicked 6 points. Can someone tell me WHO decided that he was a corner-back at inter-county level?
The double header in Breffni tomorrow looks interesting and might be worth going to even with all the sport on TV. Hopefully it'll be better value than the tenner I paid this evening.

Were you that involved in the game itself that you forgot who was playing Lawrence?

Games in breffni do look interesting today, thinking of going down only I have an orange light on in the car and i spent my money last night on pints!8)had to drown my sorrows!

Fannin was excellent last night.
Ye are some boys. Sorry, I obviously meant Drumgoon. Gonna head to Breffni now and will report back later. I thought I saw The Post in the shop the other day with TC on the front with big bullet point quotes beside him, one of which saying he wouldn't quit. Maybe this was out before the latest vote?
Who needs Eastenders when you have Cavan football.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on August 09, 2009, 01:54:03 PM
Quote from: Lawrence of Knockbride on August 09, 2009, 01:44:36 PM
Quote from: put-it-up on August 09, 2009, 11:49:47 AM
Quote from: Lawrence of Knockbride on August 08, 2009, 09:58:40 PM
Went up to the Balieboro v Drung game. Poor enough fair IMO. Fanin ran riot in the first half and must have kicked 6 points. Can someone tell me WHO decided that he was a corner-back at inter-county level?
The double header in Breffni tomorrow looks interesting and might be worth going to even with all the sport on TV. Hopefully it'll be better value than the tenner I paid this evening.

Were you that involved in the game itself that you forgot who was playing Lawrence?

Games in breffni do look interesting today, thinking of going down only I have an orange light on in the car and i spent my money last night on pints!8)had to drown my sorrows!

Fannin was excellent last night.
Ye are some boys. Sorry, I obviously meant Drumgoon. Gonna head to Breffni now and will report back later. I thought I saw The Post in the shop the other day with TC on the front with big bullet point quotes beside him, one of which saying he wouldn't quit. Maybe this was out before the latest vote?
Who needs Eastenders when you have Cavan football.

Good man Lawrence, enjoy the games. I'm gonna tune in to RTE and watch are beloved neighbours :)

Who needs eastenders when you have Coronation Street :D

With regards to Carr, I wish they would get the situation sorted. Manager needs to be at the club games, seeing what is going on and how lads are playing.

Backroom should be out seeing what is happening as well.

If Carr stays is his team going to be the same or is there going to be some tweaking?

What is the general feeling in the county towards the current backroom team?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on August 09, 2009, 03:53:07 PM
Are any of the county management team at any of these club games because if  they are not then they should be sacked.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on August 09, 2009, 04:09:48 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on August 09, 2009, 03:53:07 PM
Are any of the county management team at any of these club games because if  they are not then they should be sacked.

Well Lynch still plays with Cuchullains and Peter with Knockbride so I doubt they get around to too much.

Getting to games around your own training and games is not an easy task.



Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on August 09, 2009, 06:08:04 PM
At the park today.  Ballyhaise should have been out of the park with 45 minutes of the game gone but allowed Lavey to draw.  There were some lovely long range points by both teams an you'd wonder why the county team can't do it.

I was impressed by some of the play from the Kingscourt team and Coffey was the pick of the Killygarry team.  Again Kingscourt allowed Killygarry to pull away from them and seemed to react too late.

Looks like I'm not going to see Denn in the Championship this year as they beat Lacken in my absense.  The must have been some wind in Kilnaleck as the score at half time was Lacken 0 7 Denn 0 2 and the final score Lacken 0 9 Denn 0 12.

Senior Draw

Belturbet vs Mullahoran or Ballinagh
Redhill vs Cavan Gaels
Gowna vs Killygarry
Castlerahan vs Denn


Some baptism of fire for Redhills and the Castlerahan/Denn game should be a fractious affair!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on August 09, 2009, 06:21:15 PM
Quote from: RednBlack on August 09, 2009, 06:11:48 PM
Carr stays

Aye was thinking that. Is it official yet?

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on August 09, 2009, 06:35:37 PM
Quote from: RednBlack on August 09, 2009, 06:25:52 PM
Quote from: put-it-up on August 09, 2009, 06:21:15 PM
Quote from: RednBlack on August 09, 2009, 06:11:48 PM
Carr stays

Aye was thinking that. Is it official yet?


Yes. Now where does that leave the rebels in the CB???

Super, now it is all about strengthining what we have got and trying to build on.

At least we know where we stand now.

Don't what will happen to the bowsies, perhaps make them have a charity boxing contest with Eddie Reilly. Eddie would be willing to take two on at a time I reckon and it would be great banter!

What do think you will happen?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on August 09, 2009, 06:46:53 PM
Quote from: RednBlack on August 09, 2009, 06:43:07 PM
Quote from: put-it-up on August 09, 2009, 06:35:37 PM
Quote from: RednBlack on August 09, 2009, 06:25:52 PM
Quote from: put-it-up on August 09, 2009, 06:21:15 PM
Quote from: RednBlack on August 09, 2009, 06:11:48 PM
Carr stays

Aye was thinking that. Is it official yet?


Yes. Now where does that leave the rebels in the CB???

Super, now it is all about strengthining what we have got and trying to build on.

At least we know where we stand now.

Don't what will happen to the bowsies, perhaps make them have a charity boxing contest with Eddie Reilly. Eddie would be willing to take two on at a time I reckon and it would be great banter!

What do think you will happen?
Absolutely nothing!! The cage rattling will now be forgotten and it now moves on to make sure you get your good two seat in the Hogan in September!! Will be laughed about over lunch in the Meadow View and over a coffee in the lobby of the Kilmore. All friends again!!!

Well I think my idea is better!

yeah it will all be forgotten about it. Any propose changes to the management team?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on August 09, 2009, 08:01:00 PM
RnB what did you make of your lot today? I've seen 2 of their 3 championship games this year and they just look like a team going through the motions. Fair enough they won but they went from 5-0 up to 6-5 down. Similarly against Denn they couldn't maintain their form for any decent period of time. They let Kingscourt into a game that they shouldn't really have been allowed to. For me, like I said before, this is typical of senior club football. An inability to put a team away. Martin Reilly had a great first 10/15 minutes and was involved in probably all the first 5 scores but in the second half he decided he was going to shoot on sight with poor results.

As for the curtain-raiser I was very disappointed by Lavey's performance. Having seen them dismantle Killeshandra I was surprised. They were in fairness missing Finbar Jordan (where was he?) but their use of the ball in the last third was very poor. Ballyhaise played very well for 3/4 of the game and were 6 up before the old complancy set in. The ref gave a soft penalty and then you could smell a draw. Tierney played well apart from a few wayward shots but looks like he could be good if kept close to goal. Gavey JJ a serious run around before he was taken off him. Cullivan was savage in the second half and I have been impressed with the ginger corner-back anytime I've seen him.

I heard Killeshandra beat Drumalee with an experimental team. What happened Boojangles. I also heard there were 3 red cards. Tut tut.

As for Today's installment of the county set-up (shouldn't the omnibus have been on today) it is a bit silly having your two selectors playing when there's games to be watched. I suppose Peter could recommend John Tierney and Raphael Rogers. And Lynch will be able to make sure that Keating is as fabulous as he thinks he is ;)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on August 09, 2009, 08:13:27 PM
Quote from: Lawrence of Knockbride on August 09, 2009, 08:01:00 PM
RnB what did you make of your lot today? I've seen 2 of their 3 championship games this year and they just look like a team going through the motions. Fair enough they won but they went from 5-0 up to 6-5 down. Similarly against Denn they couldn't maintain their form for any decent period of time. They let Kingscourt into a game that they shouldn't really have been allowed to. For me, like I said before, this is typical of senior club football. An inability to put a team away. Martin Reilly had a great first 10/15 minutes and was involved in probably all the first 5 scores but in the second half he decided he was going to shoot on sight with poor results.

As for the curtain-raiser I was very disappointed by Lavey's performance. Having seen them dismantle Killeshandra I was surprised. They were in fairness missing Finbar Jordan (where was he?) but their use of the ball in the last third was very poor. Ballyhaise played very well for 3/4 of the game and were 6 up before the old complancy set in. The ref gave a soft penalty and then you could smell a draw. Tierney played well apart from a few wayward shots but looks like he could be good if kept close to goal. Gavey JJ a serious run around before he was taken off him. Cullivan was savage in the second half and I have been impressed with the ginger corner-back anytime I've seen him.

I heard Killeshandra beat Drumalee with an experimental team. What happened Boojangles. I also heard there were 3 red cards. Tut tut.

As for Today's installment of the county set-up (shouldn't the omnibus have been on today) it is a bit silly having your two selectors playing when there's games to be watched. I suppose Peter could recommend John Tierney and Raphael Rogers. And Lynch will be able to make sure that Keating is as fabulous as he thinks he is ;)
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I  wonder how many other counties have selectors that are still playing club football? That's why I think it would make sense to get one or two more men in around TC, that would be around the same age as himself and would have no real bias towards anyone.

Any word on the draw? What is happening with Bboro, Drung, Drumgoon play-off?

Perhaps you heard it Lawrence at the game?

Surprised Kingscourt are out, but it probably is a reality check that shows them where exactly they are!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on August 09, 2009, 08:18:40 PM
Drung play Bailieboro first with the winner going into 1/4 final, loser has second chance against Drumgoon

Intermediate
Drung/Bailieboro v Killinkere/Laragh
Cootehill v Knockbride
Drumgoon/Loser of Drung/B'boro v Kill
Drumalee/Lavey v Ballyhaise

Senior
Gaels v Redhills
Belturbet v Mullahorn/Ballinagh
Gowna v Killygarry
Castlerahan v Denn

Didn't really pay much attention to Junior draw all I know is Shannon Gaels are playing Cavan Gaels
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on August 09, 2009, 08:57:58 PM
Quote from: Celt_Man on August 09, 2009, 08:18:40 PM
Drung play Bailieboro first with the winner going into 1/4 final, loser has second chance against Drumgoon

Intermediate
Drung/Bailieboro v Killinkere/Laragh
Cootehill v Knockbride
Drumgoon/Loser of Drung/B'boro v Kill
Drumalee/Lavey v Ballyhaise

Senior
Gaels v Redhills
Belturbet v Mullahorn/Ballinagh
Gowna v Killygarry
Castlerahan v Denn

Didn't really pay much attention to Junior draw all I know is Shannon Gaels are playing Cavan Gaels

Cheers Celt Man,

Its a bit stupid that you can get drawn against someone that was in your group. Surely some system should be in place to make sure that doesn't happen.
Doubt your too happy about it CM?

See Ballyhaise are in the same situation.
The senior one worked out well though with a nice spread.

So we got Drung in a play-off...Going to be an intersting battle.

Doubt Drumgoon are overly happy at only getting one chance, but I suppose thats Championship.

Are the play-offs going ahead next weekend?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on August 09, 2009, 09:21:03 PM
Quote from: RednBlack on August 09, 2009, 09:11:12 PM
Being a total skeptic and cynic regarding our beloved CB does anyone find it strange that the four favourites got kept apart in the senior quarters??? Hot Ball Cold Ball???

Not too sure if they could actually manage to rig the draw... it would require some basic organisation which wouldn't happen although the draw was very badly done... hard to make out what way they were doing...
at one stage when they were naming the 1/4 final pairings... they said drumgoon.... then a break.... then Cootehill.. then a wee pause... will play Knockbride....

Quote from: put-it-up on August 09, 2009, 08:57:58 PM
Quote from: Celt_Man on August 09, 2009, 08:18:40 PM
Drung play Bailieboro first with the winner going into 1/4 final, loser has second chance against Drumgoon

Intermediate
Drung/Bailieboro v Killinkere/Laragh
Cootehill v Knockbride
Drumgoon/Loser of Drung/B'boro v Kill
Drumalee/Lavey v Ballyhaise

Senior
Gaels v Redhills
Belturbet v Mullahorn/Ballinagh
Gowna v Killygarry
Castlerahan v Denn

Didn't really pay much attention to Junior draw all I know is Shannon Gaels are playing Cavan Gaels

Cheers Celt Man,

Its a bit stupid that you can get drawn against someone that was in your group. Surely some system should be in place to make sure that doesn't happen.
Doubt your too happy about it CM?

See Ballyhaise are in the same situation.
The senior one worked out well though with a nice spread.

So we got Drung in a play-off...Going to be an intersting battle.

Doubt Drumgoon are overly happy at only getting one chance, but I suppose thats Championship.

Are the play-offs going ahead next weekend?

Ahh we could have worst draws or a better one I suppose!!

As for Drumgoon a couple of years ago they had two chances at being promoted in a three way promotion play off in Div 2 so I suppose it evens out...
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on August 09, 2009, 09:22:50 PM
Quote from: RednBlack on August 09, 2009, 09:11:12 PM
Quote from: Celt_Man on August 09, 2009, 08:18:40 PM
Drung play Bailieboro first with the winner going into 1/4 final, loser has second chance against Drumgoon

Intermediate
Drung/Bailieboro v Killinkere/Laragh
Cootehill v Knockbride
Drumgoon/Loser of Drung/B'boro v Kill
Drumalee/Lavey v Ballyhaise

Senior
Gaels v Redhills
Belturbet v Mullahorn/Ballinagh
Gowna v Killygarry
Castlerahan v Denn

Didn't really pay much attention to Junior draw all I know is Shannon Gaels are playing Cavan Gaels

Being a total skeptic and cynic regarding our beloved CB does anyone find it strange that the four favourites got kept apart in the senior quarters??? Hot Ball Cold Ball???
I saw the draw live and I can confirm that both men were wearing gloves ;D
Heard the Drumgoon bit alright. Was pretty funny. Ah in fairness they did it pretty well considering some of the games that resulted in a playoff had just finished.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on August 09, 2009, 09:33:57 PM
Quote from: boojangles on August 08, 2009, 08:58:33 PM
Goonies beat BBoro,Drung bet Bmachugh. 3 way play-off now,hold the whole thing up now for 2 weeks >:(
Put-It-Up maybe You were right!!!
Well done Celt Man-yas made hard work of it and the referee playing 8 minutes over time but yas held out.

We should have been out of sight at the end of the game sure we missed two easy chances in injury time never mind everything else...  As for the injury time, there was supposed to be 5 minutes played and he plays nearly eight if Drumlane had of equalised I would have done time for what I'd have done to the ref!!!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on August 09, 2009, 10:34:23 PM
The U16s are playing Shannon Gaels in the Championship on Tuesday in Shannon Gaels.

Where is their pitch and how do I get there?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on August 09, 2009, 11:18:31 PM
Check this link out boss
http://www.milford.limerick.gaa.ie/mapsb.html
and you can get directions then.... some spin for you!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on August 10, 2009, 12:58:26 AM
Quote from: Denn Forever on August 09, 2009, 10:34:23 PM
The U16s are playing Shannon Gaels in the Championship on Tuesday in Shannon Gaels.

Where is their pitch and how do I get there?

Top up the petrol tank before you go and bring your sword and shield for protection would be my advice ;D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on August 10, 2009, 08:35:44 AM
I hear Carr was on RTE giving an interview outside Croke Park yesterday. I'm sending my CV in to Breffni for Head Scout saying as nobody already in there wants the job. It's a wonder the headhunters haven't been on to some of us.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on August 10, 2009, 08:54:01 AM
Quote from: Denn Forever on August 09, 2009, 10:34:23 PM
The U16s are playing Shannon Gaels in the Championship on Tuesday in Shannon Gaels.

Where is their pitch and how do I get there?

Head for Belturbet, then head for the border into Derrylin. Head for Enniskillen and a few miles outside Derrylin you take a left for Florencecourt. At Florencecourt you take a left for Blacklion. If memory serves me you will pass the pitch on the RH just before you enter Blacklion. Its a spin alright but at least your not travelling from Virginia or Kingscourt.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Babe Ruth 47 on August 10, 2009, 10:34:36 AM
Quote from: Celt_Man on August 09, 2009, 11:18:31 PM
Check this link out boss
http://www.milford.limerick.gaa.ie/mapsb.html
and you can get directions then.... some spin for you!

That Milford Gaa web site is some job. All the fixtures for the entire county of Limerick, football and hurling up. All league tables and results updated every evening. Great resourse for the people down there.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: An Laoch on August 10, 2009, 11:18:58 AM
Any ideas when the Senior playoff Mullahoran v Ballinagh will be played.....and also the quarter finals?

Could be can of worms territory here, but why does the Cavan website look like it was built on a Commodore 64 and have such a dearth of useful information?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on August 10, 2009, 11:41:56 AM
Just encase anyone was still doubting it

By Colm Key


Monday August 10 2009

Tommy Carr has decided to stay on as Cavan football manager despite the slender approval he got from last week's County Board meeting.

Carr only won a vote of confidence by 30 votes to 23 and such a small mandate had him mulling over his future all week.

But Carr confirmed yesterday that he was staying on for a second year after giving it consideration with his selectors for almost four days.

Carr indicated that support from the panel of players had convinced him not to walk away.

Seanie Johnston was one of those to publicly back him after initial "negative" feeling towards the management first came into the public domain.

Last week's vote of confidence in Carr was understood to have been carried on the back of a management committee mandate.

More than seven years ago Val Andrews made his exit from the Cavan set-up after a similarly narrow vote approved him to stay on for a third year, just months after he had guided Cavan to an Ulster final.

- Colm Key
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on August 10, 2009, 12:26:39 PM
Now I have directions, I think I'll see if I can cadge a lift from someone.

I remember playing there years ago but I wiped it from my memory.  And we wonder why there are not more players from the west , west of Cavan on the county team.  Maybe training should be relocated to Ballyconnell.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Drung on August 10, 2009, 02:02:48 PM
QuoteAnd we wonder why there are not more players from the west , west of Cavan on the county team

In fairness, bar Drumlane, every club in west Cavan is junior and most eg Kildallan, Shannon Gaels, Corlough, Templeport have been for a long time. Swad are a yo-yo club who flip between Junior and Intermediate.
To be fair, Shannon Gaels are going well at the minute and have some class young players coming through.
We need the traditionally strong clubs such as Kingscourt and Crosserlough going well.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on August 11, 2009, 12:47:47 PM
Here's the fixtures for this week....

Friday, 14th @ 8pm
Hotel Kilmore Intermediate Championship Play Off
Drung v Bailieboro
Venue: Kingspan Breffni Park

Saturday, 15 @ 8pm
Hotel Kilmore Senior Championship Play Off
Mullahoran v Ballinagh
Venue: Kingspan Breffni Park

Saturday, 15 @ 6.45pm
Hotel Kilmore Intermediate Championship Play Off
Drumalee v Lavey
Venue: Kingspan Breffni Park
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Mr Miyagi on August 11, 2009, 06:07:38 PM
Miyagi just read Hoganstand and had an idea.

Of all the games seen by the eyes of your heads, who has impressed you - now that the group stages are over?

Another thing that crossed Miyagi's mind is interesting he thinks...How many of last year's county panel see did you playing for their clubs and they failed to stand out. Me would not have seen enough of a spread of games to comment.

As far as Miyagi is concerned, Cavan need to start from scratch and finding players performing well with their clubs...well, vital it is.

Miyagi is honest man and will state that only games in Breffni Park he has seen thus  far bar one involving his own club.

Good  Performers:
Mark McKeever (Gowna)
Declan Reilly (Bailieborough)
Keith Fannin (Drumgoon)
Martin Reilly (Killygarry)
Martin Dunne (Gaels)
Conor Smith (Cuchullainnss)
Ray Cullivan (Ballyahaise)

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on August 11, 2009, 06:49:57 PM
Quote from: Mr Miyagi on August 11, 2009, 06:07:38 PM
Miyagi just read Hoganstand and had an idea.

Of all the games seen by the eyes of your heads, who has impressed you - now that the group stages are over?

Another thing that crossed Miyagi's mind is interesting he thinks...How many of last year's county panel see did you playing for their clubs and they failed to stand out. Me would not have seen enough of a spread of games to comment.

As far as Miyagi is concerned, Cavan need to start from scratch and finding players performing well with their clubs...well, vital it is.

Miyagi is honest man and will state that only games in Breffni Park he has seen thus  far bar one involving his own club.

Good  Performers:
Mark McKeever (Gowna)
Declan Reilly (Bailieborough)
Keith Fannin (Drumgoon)
Martin Reilly (Killygarry)
Martin Dunne (Gaels)
Conor Smith (Cuchullainnss)
Ray Cullivan (Ballyahaise)


Excuse the lack of names but:
Two corner-forwards for Kingscourt esp the small fair-haired fella.
Cullivan, Tierney and the ginger corner-back for Ballyhaise.
Finbar Jordan
Keith Fanin
Martin Reilly
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Mr Miyagi on August 11, 2009, 07:04:25 PM
Is Tierney the young lad that didn't play for the minors this year? Miyagi has heard quite a bit about him but would not know that much. What kind of player is he?

Was very disappointed with Kingscourt the other night Miyagi was. Also thought Barry Reilly vastly underperformed consiering his repitaion but anytime Miyagi has seen him,which would have been with the minors the first year, he has been poor enough.


If only Martin Reilly could get stronger - Miyagi would rate him a lot.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Babe Ruth 47 on August 11, 2009, 07:38:19 PM
Ray Cullivan
Dayrll McKenna
Dara Gunn
Martin Dunne
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on August 11, 2009, 07:43:53 PM
That's the Tierney. I'd say he's big, strong and quite fast for a young lad. His shooting let him down at times but he may just have had a bad day. I agree that Barry Reilly was anonymous and sluggish looking. First time I've seen him. Is he the lad that was in Oz? What happened?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Mr Miyagi on August 11, 2009, 10:02:04 PM
Quote from: Lawrence of Knockbride on August 11, 2009, 07:43:53 PM
That's the Tierney. I'd say he's big, strong and quite fast for a young lad. His shooting let him down at times but he may just have had a bad day. I agree that Barry Reilly was anonymous and sluggish looking. First time I've seen him. Is he the lad that was in Oz? What happened?

Interest Miyagi he does. Yes well Miyagi presume it was the same fella.

Yes, I wonder how he got on. Miyagi red he went Down Under a couple of weeks ago but never heard anymore. From that showing, well, he has a lot to do.

Miyagi was impressed my Colm Smith's workrate also. 
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4sam on August 11, 2009, 10:33:40 PM
Quote from: Mr Miyagi on August 11, 2009, 10:02:04 PM
Quote from: Lawrence of Knockbride on August 11, 2009, 07:43:53 PM
That's the Tierney. I'd say he's big, strong and quite fast for a young lad. His shooting let him down at times but he may just have had a bad day. I agree that Barry Reilly was anonymous and sluggish looking. First time I've seen him. Is he the lad that was in Oz? What happened?

Interest Miyagi he does. Yes well Miyagi presume it was the same fella.

Yes, I wonder how he got on. Miyagi red he went Down Under a couple of weeks ago but never heard anymore. From that showing, well, he has a lot to do.

Miyagi was impressed my Colm Smith's workrate also. 

Miyagi would it be too much to ask for you to construct your sentences properly? Its very hard to make head nor tail of them!!

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Mr Miyagi on August 11, 2009, 10:42:33 PM
Quote from: cavan4sam on August 11, 2009, 10:33:40 PM
Quote from: Mr Miyagi on August 11, 2009, 10:02:04 PM
Quote from: Lawrence of Knockbride on August 11, 2009, 07:43:53 PM
That's the Tierney. I'd say he's big, strong and quite fast for a young lad. His shooting let him down at times but he may just have had a bad day. I agree that Barry Reilly was anonymous and sluggish looking. First time I've seen him. Is he the lad that was in Oz? What happened?

Interest Miyagi he does. Yes well Miyagi presume it was the same fella.

Yes, I wonder how he got on. Miyagi red he went Down Under a couple of weeks ago but never heard anymore. From that showing, well, he has a lot to do.

Miyagi was impressed my Colm Smith's workrate also. 

Miyagi would it be too much to ask for you to construct your sentences properly? Its very hard to make head nor tail of them!!



I didn't realise you were abit of a racist cavan4sam...do you have a problem with how people from my nation speak ???
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Mr Miyagi on August 11, 2009, 10:44:16 PM
Quote from: cavan4sam on August 11, 2009, 10:33:40 PM
Quote from: Mr Miyagi on August 11, 2009, 10:02:04 PM
Quote from: Lawrence of Knockbride on August 11, 2009, 07:43:53 PM
That's the Tierney. I'd say he's big, strong and quite fast for a young lad. His shooting let him down at times but he may just have had a bad day. I agree that Barry Reilly was anonymous and sluggish looking. First time I've seen him. Is he the lad that was in Oz? What happened?

Interest Miyagi he does. Yes well Miyagi presume it was the same fella.

Yes, I wonder how he got on. Miyagi red he went Down Under a couple of weeks ago but never heard anymore. From that showing, well, he has a lot to do.

Miyagi was impressed my Colm Smith's workrate also. 

Miyagi would it be too much to ask for you to construct your sentences properly? Its very hard to make head nor tail of them!!



And to you, it is Mr Miyagi.

But worry you should not, Miyagi does not visit gaaboard too often. Access to internet, he has a problem with. 
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on August 11, 2009, 10:58:16 PM
Quote from: cavan4sam on August 11, 2009, 10:33:40 PM
Quote from: Mr Miyagi on August 11, 2009, 10:02:04 PM
Quote from: Lawrence of Knockbride on August 11, 2009, 07:43:53 PM
That's the Tierney. I'd say he's big, strong and quite fast for a young lad. His shooting let him down at times but he may just have had a bad day. I agree that Barry Reilly was anonymous and sluggish looking. First time I've seen him. Is he the lad that was in Oz? What happened?

Interest Miyagi he does. Yes well Miyagi presume it was the same fella.

Yes, I wonder how he got on. Miyagi red he went Down Under a couple of weeks ago but never heard anymore. From that showing, well, he has a lot to do.

Miyagi was impressed my Colm Smith's workrate also. 

Miyagi would it be too much to ask for you to construct your sentences properly? Its very hard to make head nor tail of them!!



have to agree, it's like....Yoda from Star Wars is posting on the board. Or perhaps someone who just wasn't very good at the grammar in school ;D

Anyway, have to be honest - the Post made it's way into my house this week. The mother must have won a couple of euro on the scratchcards :D

Read the Carr interview, which i must admit was interesting.

Carr suggested he will look at bringing more coaches and selectors.
Also liked the fact he suggested the buck stops with him.
He was also very open to suggestions about the u21 team.

Was a fairly open interview, which you dont see too often these days.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4sam on August 11, 2009, 11:01:21 PM
Mr. Miyagi can i ask which game you seen Conor Smith playing in in this years championship?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Mr Miyagi on August 11, 2009, 11:08:01 PM
Miyagi gets the feeling Sammy does not like him...

Miyagi saw the lad play in Cuchullains game against Gowna. In Breffni Park they did do battle.

He looked a liittle unfit, but great determination and skill he showed. A couple of points he got as well.

Have not seen him play since.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4sam on August 11, 2009, 11:14:01 PM
No not that I don't like you at all, I only asked because we played Cuchulainns on Friday night and i thought he had gone downhill an awful lot. Barry Cusack roasted him and Barry has not been having his best year. Im not saying he wasn't good in other games or that he isn't a good player just that he got destroyed against us, in fact come to think of it, Barry has always had the better of him.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Mr Miyagi on August 11, 2009, 11:21:39 PM
Smith is another player Miyagi has heard an awful lot about over the years but has never seen him play particularly.

Miyagi, being truthful, rarely goes to matches that are not in Breffni Park or his own clubs ground. He remembers Smith playing against Down in a MFC and was truly awful. Miyagi also heard he was even worse when the u21's played this year.

Just that time I saw him, he looked like he was starting to fulfill his potentail.

What exactly has gone wrong with him? Injury, lack of interest? Miyagi not too sure
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Drung on August 12, 2009, 11:20:06 AM
Mr Miyagi is an imitator of Mr Pain, and a poor one at that. ::)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on August 12, 2009, 11:23:32 AM
Quote from: Drung on August 12, 2009, 11:20:06 AM
Mr Miyagi is an imitator of Mr Pain, and a poor one at that. ::)

Aw leave him alone he is only new.  Anyone hear that Kingspan were going to pull all money out of Cavan Football if Carr was voted out.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on August 12, 2009, 11:37:29 AM
Quote from: cavan4ever on August 12, 2009, 11:23:32 AM
Quote from: Drung on August 12, 2009, 11:20:06 AM
Mr Miyagi is an imitator of Mr Pain, and a poor one at that. ::)

Aw leave him alone he is only new.  Anyone hear that Kingspan were going to pull all money out of Cavan Football if Carr was voted out.

Aye, heard to same thing but I dunno how through it was.

I see Carr's interview failed to interest the rest of you?
Would be interesting to hear what you guys thought of what he said.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on August 12, 2009, 11:40:09 AM
Quote from: put-it-up on August 12, 2009, 11:37:29 AM
Quote from: cavan4ever on August 12, 2009, 11:23:32 AM
Quote from: Drung on August 12, 2009, 11:20:06 AM
Mr Miyagi is an imitator of Mr Pain, and a poor one at that. ::)

Aw leave him alone he is only new.  Anyone hear that Kingspan were going to pull all money out of Cavan Football if Carr was voted out.

Aye, heard to same thing but I dunno how through it was.

I see Carr's interview failed to interest the rest of you?
Would be interesting to hear what you guys thought of what he said.

Id be more interested in hearing what you think your chances are on Friday ?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on August 12, 2009, 11:50:00 AM
Quote from: cavan4ever on August 12, 2009, 11:23:32 AM
Quote from: Drung on August 12, 2009, 11:20:06 AM
Mr Miyagi is an imitator of Mr Pain, and a poor one at that. ::)

Aw leave him alone he is only new.  Anyone hear that Kingspan were going to pull all money out of Cavan Football if Carr was voted out.

Yea heard that too and to be honest it fits in well with what happen.... On Wednesday the County Board want him gone on a vote of something like 19 to 1, they ask him to quit he says no then over the weekend everyone changes their mind and on Monday the Co. Board wants him to stay....
So what happen over the weekend for everyone to change their mind - that's where the rumour about Kingspan pulling the plug comes in
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on August 12, 2009, 12:10:58 PM
Quote from: cavan4ever on August 12, 2009, 11:40:09 AM
Quote from: put-it-up on August 12, 2009, 11:37:29 AM
Quote from: cavan4ever on August 12, 2009, 11:23:32 AM
Quote from: Drung on August 12, 2009, 11:20:06 AM
Mr Miyagi is an imitator of Mr Pain, and a poor one at that. ::)

Aw leave him alone he is only new.  Anyone hear that Kingspan were going to pull all money out of Cavan Football if Carr was voted out.

Aye, heard to same thing but I dunno how through it was.

I see Carr's interview failed to interest the rest of you?
Would be interesting to hear what you guys thought of what he said.

Id be more interested in hearing what you think your chances are on Friday ?

Why is that so interesting to you?!?

Not too sure, gonna be a very evenly contested game I would imagine.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on August 12, 2009, 12:27:04 PM
Quote from: put-it-up on August 12, 2009, 12:10:58 PM
Quote from: cavan4ever on August 12, 2009, 11:40:09 AM
Quote from: put-it-up on August 12, 2009, 11:37:29 AM
Quote from: cavan4ever on August 12, 2009, 11:23:32 AM
Quote from: Drung on August 12, 2009, 11:20:06 AM
Mr Miyagi is an imitator of Mr Pain, and a poor one at that. ::)

Aw leave him alone he is only new.  Anyone hear that Kingspan were going to pull all money out of Cavan Football if Carr was voted out.

Aye, heard to same thing but I dunno how through it was.

I see Carr's interview failed to interest the rest of you?
Would be interesting to hear what you guys thought of what he said.

Id be more interested in hearing what you think your chances are on Friday ?

Why is that so interesting to you?!?

Not too sure, gonna be a very evenly contested game I would imagine.

why u think  ::)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on August 12, 2009, 12:31:38 PM
Quote from: cavan4ever on August 12, 2009, 12:27:04 PM
Quote from: put-it-up on August 12, 2009, 12:10:58 PM
Quote from: cavan4ever on August 12, 2009, 11:40:09 AM
Quote from: put-it-up on August 12, 2009, 11:37:29 AM
Quote from: cavan4ever on August 12, 2009, 11:23:32 AM
Quote from: Drung on August 12, 2009, 11:20:06 AM
Mr Miyagi is an imitator of Mr Pain, and a poor one at that. ::)

Aw leave him alone he is only new.  Anyone hear that Kingspan were going to pull all money out of Cavan Football if Carr was voted out.

Aye, heard to same thing but I dunno how through it was.

I see Carr's interview failed to interest the rest of you?
Would be interesting to hear what you guys thought of what he said.

Id be more interested in hearing what you think your chances are on Friday ?

Why is that so interesting to you?!?

Not too sure, gonna be a very evenly contested game I would imagine.

why u think  ::)

Well I know your a Drung man, but my opinion, when it comes to the game, will count for very little. Be surprised if it wasn't like the first day..Hard-fought and scrappy.

I meant to ask you or Drung a few weeks ago what was story with Watters..did he tear anything?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on August 12, 2009, 12:35:03 PM
Quote from: put-it-up on August 12, 2009, 12:31:38 PM
Quote from: cavan4ever on August 12, 2009, 12:27:04 PM
Quote from: put-it-up on August 12, 2009, 12:10:58 PM
Quote from: cavan4ever on August 12, 2009, 11:40:09 AM
Quote from: put-it-up on August 12, 2009, 11:37:29 AM
Quote from: cavan4ever on August 12, 2009, 11:23:32 AM
Quote from: Drung on August 12, 2009, 11:20:06 AM
Mr Miyagi is an imitator of Mr Pain, and a poor one at that. ::)

Aw leave him alone he is only new.  Anyone hear that Kingspan were going to pull all money out of Cavan Football if Carr was voted out.

Aye, heard to same thing but I dunno how through it was.

I see Carr's interview failed to interest the rest of you?
Would be interesting to hear what you guys thought of what he said.

Id be more interested in hearing what you think your chances are on Friday ?

Why is that so interesting to you?!?

Not too sure, gonna be a very evenly contested game I would imagine.

why u think  ::)

Well I know your a Drung man, but my opinion, when it comes to the game, will count for very little. Be surprised if it wasn't like the first day..Hard-fought and scrappy.

I meant to ask you or Drung a few weeks ago what was story with Watters..did he tear anything?


I know your opinion counts for little when it comes to games i was just asking. 

He is off the crutches and is suposed to start jogging next week so he is on the mend.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on August 12, 2009, 12:41:17 PM
Read Carrs interview,he came across well.But when tackled about not attending club games he just basically said that the Regional Games would b where he would be picking from.Now where did we hear that before??
Id say from the team that started against Antrim at least Half did NOT attend the Regional games last year. No scouting going on at games when most players should be at their peak,played on good fields in a competition that means something- In comparison to watching players playing at the end of a long season,played on Bad fields in a competition that nobody gives a f**k about. Take a bow Tommy.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on August 12, 2009, 12:43:57 PM
Quote from: cavan4ever on August 12, 2009, 12:35:03 PM
Quote from: put-it-up on August 12, 2009, 12:31:38 PM
Quote from: cavan4ever on August 12, 2009, 12:27:04 PM
Quote from: put-it-up on August 12, 2009, 12:10:58 PM
Quote from: cavan4ever on August 12, 2009, 11:40:09 AM
Quote from: put-it-up on August 12, 2009, 11:37:29 AM
Quote from: cavan4ever on August 12, 2009, 11:23:32 AM
Quote from: Drung on August 12, 2009, 11:20:06 AM
Mr Miyagi is an imitator of Mr Pain, and a poor one at that. ::)

Aw leave him alone he is only new.  Anyone hear that Kingspan were going to pull all money out of Cavan Football if Carr was voted out.

Aye, heard to same thing but I dunno how through it was.

I see Carr's interview failed to interest the rest of you?
Would be interesting to hear what you guys thought of what he said.

Id be more interested in hearing what you think your chances are on Friday ?

Why is that so interesting to you?!?

Not too sure, gonna be a very evenly contested game I would imagine.

why u think  ::)

Well I know your a Drung man, but my opinion, when it comes to the game, will count for very little. Be surprised if it wasn't like the first day..Hard-fought and scrappy.

I meant to ask you or Drung a few weeks ago what was story with Watters..did he tear anything?


I know your opinion counts for little when it comes to games i was just asking. 

He is off the crutches and is suposed to start jogging next week so he is on the mend.


Sorry for been a bit snappy - just having a bad day at the office  ;D Computer keeps freezin!

Yeah I think it will be an interesting affair - I imagine your boys will be well up for it.

Glad to hear he is on the mend, Watters is a player I have a lot of time for.

Would rather not see him on Friday though, togged out!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on August 12, 2009, 12:49:56 PM
Quote from: boojangles on August 12, 2009, 12:41:17 PM
Read Carrs interview,he came across well.But when tackled about not attending club games he just basically said that the Regional Games would b where he would be picking from.Now where did we hear that before??
Id say from the team that started against Antrim at least Half did NOT attend the Regional games last year. No scouting going on at games when most players should be at their peak,played on good fields in a competition that means something- In comparison to watching players playing at the end of a long season,played on Bad fields in a competition that nobody gives a f**k about. Take a bow Tommy.

I know but I think he would even admit that the whole regional thing was done half-arsed last year. If it is run properly it would be a good thing because it is given lads another chance to impress you know?

i do agree with you though, that the club games should be where the majority of the panel is picked from. that is when most are at their peak and fit.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on August 12, 2009, 12:55:14 PM
Quote from: put-it-up on August 12, 2009, 12:43:57 PM
Quote from: cavan4ever on August 12, 2009, 12:35:03 PM
Quote from: put-it-up on August 12, 2009, 12:31:38 PM
Quote from: cavan4ever on August 12, 2009, 12:27:04 PM
Quote from: put-it-up on August 12, 2009, 12:10:58 PM
Quote from: cavan4ever on August 12, 2009, 11:40:09 AM
Quote from: put-it-up on August 12, 2009, 11:37:29 AM
Quote from: cavan4ever on August 12, 2009, 11:23:32 AM
Quote from: Drung on August 12, 2009, 11:20:06 AM
Mr Miyagi is an imitator of Mr Pain, and a poor one at that. ::)

Aw leave him alone he is only new.  Anyone hear that Kingspan were going to pull all money out of Cavan Football if Carr was voted out.

Aye, heard to same thing but I dunno how through it was.

I see Carr's interview failed to interest the rest of you?
Would be interesting to hear what you guys thought of what he said.

Id be more interested in hearing what you think your chances are on Friday ?

Why is that so interesting to you?!?

Not too sure, gonna be a very evenly contested game I would imagine.

why u think  ::)

Well I know your a Drung man, but my opinion, when it comes to the game, will count for very little. Be surprised if it wasn't like the first day..Hard-fought and scrappy.

I meant to ask you or Drung a few weeks ago what was story with Watters..did he tear anything?


I know your opinion counts for little when it comes to games i was just asking. 

He is off the crutches and is suposed to start jogging next week so he is on the mend.


Sorry for been a bit snappy - just having a bad day at the office  ;D Computer keeps freezin!

Yeah I think it will be an interesting affair - I imagine your boys will be well up for it.

Glad to hear he is on the mend, Watters is a player I have a lot of time for.

Would rather not see him on Friday though, togged out!

U wont have to worry about that.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on August 12, 2009, 01:03:17 PM
Quote from: put-it-up on August 12, 2009, 12:49:56 PM
Quote from: boojangles on August 12, 2009, 12:41:17 PM
Read Carrs interview,he came across well.But when tackled about not attending club games he just basically said that the Regional Games would b where he would be picking from.Now where did we hear that before??
Id say from the team that started against Antrim at least Half did NOT attend the Regional games last year. No scouting going on at games when most players should be at their peak,played on good fields in a competition that means something- In comparison to watching players playing at the end of a long season,played on Bad fields in a competition that nobody gives a f**k about. Take a bow Tommy.

I know but I think he would even admit that the whole regional thing was done half-arsed last year. If it is run properly it would be a good thing because it is given lads another chance to impress you know?

i do agree with you though, that the club games should be where the majority of the panel is picked from. that is when most are at their peak and fit.

Exactly... In theory the regional games are a great idea but when do you play them?  Last year I was at one of the games and I think it was the day or two days after St. Stephen's day and sure you know rightly boys were after been on it for the last 3 or 4 nights in a row...  Plus it was 14 a side no subs on a wet and heavy pitch with a few boys just there to make up the numbers which is stupid
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on August 12, 2009, 01:09:37 PM
Quote from: Celt_Man on August 12, 2009, 01:03:17 PM
Quote from: put-it-up on August 12, 2009, 12:49:56 PM
Quote from: boojangles on August 12, 2009, 12:41:17 PM
Read Carrs interview,he came across well.But when tackled about not attending club games he just basically said that the Regional Games would b where he would be picking from.Now where did we hear that before??
Id say from the team that started against Antrim at least Half did NOT attend the Regional games last year. No scouting going on at games when most players should be at their peak,played on good fields in a competition that means something- In comparison to watching players playing at the end of a long season,played on Bad fields in a competition that nobody gives a f**k about. Take a bow Tommy.

I know but I think he would even admit that the whole regional thing was done half-arsed last year. If it is run properly it would be a good thing because it is given lads another chance to impress you know?

i do agree with you though, that the club games should be where the majority of the panel is picked from. that is when most are at their peak and fit.

Exactly... In theory the regional games are a great idea but when do you play them?  Last year I was at one of the games and I think it was the day or two days after St. Stephen's day and sure you know rightly boys were after been on it for the last 3 or 4 nights in a row...  Plus it was 14 a side no subs on a wet and heavy pitch with a few boys just there to make up the numbers which is stupid

Ideally, you would need the championships finishing up by the end of September and run the regionals in Oct. That means most lads are still in good shape, the pitched wont be too bad and then That gives all lads two full months off to rest. and then the management team can put their McKenna Cup squad together and let the hard work commence.

Playing games in Decemeber is a waste of time.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on August 12, 2009, 01:13:44 PM
With the laughing stock that the county was this year will new players want to go in?

He was asked about players who were dropped for disipline reasons being brought back in and he gave a positive reply to that question, id say the lads who were dropped were glad that they were not around.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on August 12, 2009, 04:32:02 PM
Jaysus lads,some of us are horrid crabby on here  ;D

havent been on since the weekend,
awful second half performance from our lads nearly cost us.
Beating Lavey 0-9 to 0-3 at half time,But fair play to Lavey,they completely destroyed us in the second half,and if the game had gone on 5 minutes longer,we would have been in that playoff Saturday Night.

Stayed in to watch the Kingscourt/K'garry game.
RednBlack
i rate your two cornerbacks Charlie Conaty and Darryl McKenna as very good footballers and in McKenna's case a possible county man in the future,But i thought Darragh Gunn and to a lesser extent Mark McKeown roasted the two lads.
I was very disappointed in Kingscourt to be honest,
Especially in Keith McCabe,Alan Clarke,Philip Smith and Ryan McCormack who all under performed.
Philip Tinnelly looked like a good prospect and Thomas Wakely was terrific at full back but other than that the Stars played very much within themselves.
Joe McMahon and Sean Og Gargan and Brendan Corcoran were big misses.
K'garry are for me clearly the 3rd best team in the county after Gaels,Castlerahan,However they havent put together one full solid 60/70 minutes from when ive seen them this year.
Martin Reily is too valuable to be stuck in the full forward line for 40 minutes at club level.
Jamie Coffey impressed me,hes built like a horse,but you can see hes still getting used to high level club football again.
Pauric Cahill was good,
Brendan Murray is a very promising player,Is he under 21 next year?
K'GARRY have the ammunition to go far,but i dont think this management is getting the most out of them.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on August 12, 2009, 07:15:03 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on August 12, 2009, 04:32:02 PM
Jaysus lads,some of us are horrid crabby on here  ;D

havent been on since the weekend,
awful second half performance from our lads nearly cost us.
Beating Lavey 0-9 to 0-3 at half time,But fair play to Lavey,they completely destroyed us in the second half,and if the game had gone on 5 minutes longer,we would have been in that playoff Saturday Night.

Stayed in to watch the Kingscourt/K'garry game.
RednBlack
i rate your two cornerbacks Charlie Conaty and Darryl McKenna as very good footballers and in McKenna's case a possible county man in the future,But i thought Darragh Gunn and to a lesser extent Mark McKeown roasted the two lads.
I was very disappointed in Kingscourt to be honest,
Especially in Keith McCabe,Alan Clarke,Philip Smith and Ryan McCormack who all under performed.
Philip Tinnelly looked like a good prospect and Thomas Wakely was terrific at full back but other than that the Stars played very much within themselves.
Joe McMahon and Sean Og Gargan and Brendan Corcoran were big misses.
K'garry are for me clearly the 3rd best team in the county after Gaels,Castlerahan,However they havent put together one full solid 60/70 minutes from when ive seen them this year.
Martin Reily is too valuable to be stuck in the full forward line for 40 minutes at club level.
Jamie Coffey impressed me,hes built like a horse,but you can see hes still getting used to high level club football again.
Pauric Cahill was good,
Brendan Murray is a very promising player,Is he under 21 next year?
K'GARRY have the ammunition to go far,but i dont think this management is getting the most out of them.
You watched/played a different second half than me BH Man. I thought you were far superior and all that let you down was a bit of complacency not putting them away when you had the chance.
Boojangles, were you fighting in Ballinagh?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on August 12, 2009, 07:39:26 PM
Quote from: Lawrence of Knockbride on August 12, 2009, 07:15:03 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on August 12, 2009, 04:32:02 PM
Jaysus lads,some of us are horrid crabby on here  ;D

havent been on since the weekend,
awful second half performance from our lads nearly cost us.
Beating Lavey 0-9 to 0-3 at half time,But fair play to Lavey,they completely destroyed us in the second half,and if the game had gone on 5 minutes longer,we would have been in that playoff Saturday Night.

Stayed in to watch the Kingscourt/K'garry game.
RednBlack
i rate your two cornerbacks Charlie Conaty and Darryl McKenna as very good footballers and in McKenna's case a possible county man in the future,But i thought Darragh Gunn and to a lesser extent Mark McKeown roasted the two lads.
I was very disappointed in Kingscourt to be honest,
Especially in Keith McCabe,Alan Clarke,Philip Smith and Ryan McCormack who all under performed.
Philip Tinnelly looked like a good prospect and Thomas Wakely was terrific at full back but other than that the Stars played very much within themselves.
Joe McMahon and Sean Og Gargan and Brendan Corcoran were big misses.
K'garry are for me clearly the 3rd best team in the county after Gaels,Castlerahan,However they havent put together one full solid 60/70 minutes from when ive seen them this year.
Martin Reily is too valuable to be stuck in the full forward line for 40 minutes at club level.
Jamie Coffey impressed me,hes built like a horse,but you can see hes still getting used to high level club football again.
Pauric Cahill was good,
Brendan Murray is a very promising player,Is he under 21 next year?
K'GARRY have the ammunition to go far,but i dont think this management is getting the most out of them.
You watched/played a different second half than me BH Man. I thought you were far superior and all that let you down was a bit of complacency not putting them away when you had the chance.
Boojangles, were you fighting in Ballinagh?

you would be a better judge Lawrence,hard to judgea game well when you're playing,
Not happy with how we finished that game at all,
Too much messing in the forwards and turnovers.
I was shocked to hear a somewhat understrength Slashers beat Drumalee, What happened Boojangles?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Swadman on August 12, 2009, 08:00:22 PM
Bo J is probably talking through a straw - Heard it from a leaguer there was a "cafuffell" or two at the game. Their (k/shndra) stand in goalie is called "Polish Tommy" (understandably enough as he is from Poland). Seemingly he took objection to some of the rough stuff and went beserk. The stint they all have to do in the Polish army stood to him. He got the comunist card along with a Drumalee guy
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Drung on August 12, 2009, 08:46:10 PM
QuoteK'garry are for me clearly the 3rd best team in the county after Gaels,Castlerahan,

In my opinion Mullahoran and Gowna are both better. Put it this way, I can see either of them winning the championship. Killygarry won't win it with this bunch of players in my opinion.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Mr. Pain on August 12, 2009, 09:23:58 PM
When I wake up in the morning
And the 'larm lets out a warning
I don't think I'll ever make it on time
By the time I got my books I give myself a look
I'm at the corner just in time to see the bus slide by

It's alright cause I'm saved by the bell

If the teacher pops a test I know I'm a mess
And my dog ate all my homework last night
Riding low in my chair she won't know that I'm there
If I can hand it in tomorrow it'll be alright

It's alright cause I'm saved by the bell (x3)

Yes, indeed Ballyhaise were saved by the bell. It's a bit ridiculous the way the draw ended up with Ballyhaise meeting the winners of Drumalee and Lavey while Knockbride play Cootehill. They most definitely should have been pooled to be kept apart. Who do ye believe will be relegated from senior the way the fixtures are? Crosserlough will find it tough to stay up but Mr. Pain predicts Cuchullains to face the drop.


With regard to the Kingspan/Tommy Carr thing, look back at what Mr. Pain wrote

Quote from: Mr. Pain on July 17, 2009, 02:29:55 PM
Quote from: boojangles on July 17, 2009, 01:36:35 PM

On another point- Does anyone know what is the situtaion with Kingspans sponsorship of Cavan teams? Have they signed up for a few more years or is it a year by year thing? I wouldnt b suprised to see the Murtaghs having a second look at the money they are throwing to the County set-up.

Why would they Booj? They have their own man in the hot seat so they basically control the picking of the manager and lots of other decisions Mr. Pain is sure. Not a conspiracy theory by any means but if you look into it you'll find that the Pain freak is not far wrong!

Quote from: boojangles on July 17, 2009, 03:36:37 PM
Quote from: anglocelt39 on July 17, 2009, 03:04:51 PM
Their own man as in the County board Chairman Mr. Pain? Fair enough.

As regards having their own man-Dont be so sure of that either Pain. Work and Pleasure don't mix.

Hmmm...Rant over!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on August 12, 2009, 09:56:04 PM
Boojangles is in foul humour.Not talking about that match Sunday,atrocious stuff to say the least.We would have been better off being bet by Ballyhaise.Lets just say some boys don't handle expectation too well,while others just head off on holidays.
As regards the draw-Congrats to the County Board for another c**k-up.(Can they do anything right these days??)
What was the incentive to finish top of your group this year? Ballyhaise and Knockbride should feel rightly aggrieved at facing opposition from their groups.
I would love to know the reasons and advantages for football in the county that the CB felt would come out of changing this system.In years gone by the team who topped the group played a team who finished 2nd in another group.
Mr Pain seems to have had it right all along.In saying that I still think Kingspan may only be lookin for a reason to get out of their deal with Cavan.Maybe next year.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on August 12, 2009, 10:25:21 PM
Quote from: boojangles on August 12, 2009, 09:56:04 PM

Mr Pain seems to have had it right all along.In saying that I still think Kingspan may only be lookin for a reason to get out of their deal with Cavan.Maybe next year.

Philip Smith put his foot down and got what he wanted, whenever he has had enough and leaves Kingspan will follow.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on August 13, 2009, 08:46:52 AM
Quote from: Swadman on August 12, 2009, 08:00:22 PM
Bo J is probably talking through a straw - Heard it from a leaguer there was a "cafuffell" or two at the game. Their (k/shndra) stand in goalie is called "Polish Tommy" (understandably enough as he is from Poland). Seemingly he took objection to some of the rough stuff and went beserk. The stint they all have to do in the Polish army stood to him. He got the comunist card along with a Drumalee guy
Two leaguers sent off I hear with one of them the wrong man which was later changed.
Quote from: RednBlack on August 13, 2009, 12:35:47 AM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on August 12, 2009, 04:32:02 PM
Jaysus lads,some of us are horrid crabby on here  ;D

havent been on since the weekend,
awful second half performance from our lads nearly cost us.
Beating Lavey 0-9 to 0-3 at half time,But fair play to Lavey,they completely destroyed us in the second half,and if the game had gone on 5 minutes longer,we would have been in that playoff Saturday Night.

Stayed in to watch the Kingscourt/K'garry game.
RednBlack
i rate your two cornerbacks Charlie Conaty and Darryl McKenna as very good footballers and in McKenna's case a possible county man in the future,But i thought Darragh Gunn and to a lesser extent Mark McKeown roasted the two lads.
I was very disappointed in Kingscourt to be honest,
Especially in Keith McCabe,Alan Clarke,Philip Smith and Ryan McCormack who all under performed.
Philip Tinnelly looked like a good prospect and Thomas Wakely was terrific at full back but other than that the Stars played very much within themselves.
Joe McMahon and Sean Og Gargan and Brendan Corcoran were big misses.
K'garry are for me clearly the 3rd best team in the county after Gaels,Castlerahan,However they havent put together one full solid 60/70 minutes from when ive seen them this year.
Martin Reily is too valuable to be stuck in the full forward line for 40 minutes at club level.
Jamie Coffey impressed me,hes built like a horse,but you can see hes still getting used to high level club football again.
Pauric Cahill was good,
Brendan Murray is a very promising player,Is he under 21 next year?
K'GARRY have the ammunition to go far,but i dont think this management is getting the most out of them.
Charlie hadn't trained all week. A few of the lads were off colour with the flu so it was good to get through the game with a win. Was impressed with Gunne and Tinnelly. Thought Colm Smith went well for periods at midfield. Heard Barry Reilly spent a week on the razz in Spain after he back from Oz and then got the flu when he came home so that accounts for a lot of his poor performance. Took our sideline a while to cop on to the fact they had put two men on Martin leaving Andy Mc free to sweep and build which I thought he did well in the second half. This is a good bunch of lads but I think when a quick change needs to be made in a big game it will be too slow in coming. Puzzled why they insist on pushing Martin inside when he was doing wreck on the 40. Same happened in league against Ramor and Cuchullains. Reilly flying and then shove him to the FF line. Thankfully Martin made his own way back out on Sunday and picked off a few nice scores. Agree with you that they are not getting best from these lads.

Murray will be 20 in Oct. Good looking prospect and deserves a lot more credit than he gets at times. First cousin of Niall's and he really helps Thomas since he got moved to the middle of the park. Cahill is finally starting to find his form. Had a slow start to the year but is now back to playing somewhat like he can.

A guy who gets very little credit and yet again kept them in the game was Paddy Galligan. Made two crucial saves in the first half and rarely if ever has a poor game. Would think he is worth a look at higher up the levels. Working hard on his kickouts and if they keep improving I think he could find a place in county setup.

All year it has been a case of a good 20 minutes per game and not able to put teams away. If and its a big if they can put a whole game together they have the potential to trouble the big boys. Consistency will kill them yet. Hope I am proved wrong though  ;D
How did Declan Sheridan make his way back to the line RnB? He must have been talking to King. ;D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: North Longford on August 13, 2009, 09:26:45 AM
Lads what is Mickey grahams role with the gaels.
He seemed in compete control at the Crosserlough game (and that was some game!!!!). Thought he was training somebody else. Is he over 2 teams (as well as the minors)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on August 13, 2009, 11:19:35 AM
Quote from: North Longford on August 13, 2009, 09:26:45 AM
Lads what is Mickey grahams role with the gaels.
He seemed in compete control at the Crosserlough game (and that was some game!!!!). Thought he was training somebody else. Is he over 2 teams (as well as the minors)

Yeah he would have a fair bit of influence there.. The Gaels have an outside manager in Mick O'Dowd, but as I said Mickey seems to have a fair bit of influence.

Next year I think he will be fully focused on the minors.

Also saw he dusted off the old puma king's and togged out for the Juniors last weekend ;D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on August 14, 2009, 08:47:59 AM
North Longford
Mickey Graham is training Ballyhaise,an intermediate team.
I can see him taking the Gaels next year(unless it was agreed that he would not take any other team) along with the county minors.

Must have been awful weekend for some poor junior corner back maybe hungover and find hes marking one of the cleverest footballers in the county over the last decade.
  :D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: spoggles on August 14, 2009, 01:17:41 PM
Minor Championship 2009

Div 1
Quarter Finals - 08/09/09

1. Ramor vs. Mullahoran
2. Killann Gaels vs. St Joseph's
3. Cavan Gaels vs. Kingscourt
4. Redbridge vs. Ballyhaise

First names team has home advantage

Semi Final Draw

Winner 2 vs. Winner 3
Winner 4 vs. Winner 1

surely the gaels cant win this minor championship..
8 good teams so should be a good championship..think there wil be a few suprises along the way but looks lik it could be a repeat of the league final but there a lot of football to be played before that.
anyone got any opinions on thier clubs chances??
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on August 14, 2009, 04:45:08 PM
Minor Championship 2009

Div 1
Quarter Finals - 08/09/09

1. Ramor vs. Mullahoran
2. Killann Gaels vs. St Joseph's
3. Cavan Gaels vs. Kingscourt
4. Redbridge vs. Ballyhaise

First names team has home advantage

Semi Final Draw

Winner 2 vs. Winner 3
Winner 4 vs. Winner 1

Div 2

Preliminary Round - 05/09/09

Drumgoon vs Lacken

Quarter Finals - 08/09/09

1. Lavey vs. Crosserlough
2. Knockbride vs. St Finbarrs
3. Drumalee vs, Slibh Glah Gaels
4. Castlerahan vs. Winner or Prelim Game

Semi Final Draw

Winner 4 vs. Winner 2
Winner 3 vs. Winner 1

Div 3

Quarter Finals - 08/09/09

1. Blackwater Gaels vs. Drumport
2. Gowna vs. Killinkere
3. Shannon Gaels vs. Belturbet
4. Ballinagh vs. Laragh Utd

Semi Final Draw

Winner 3 vs. Winner 1
Winner 4 vs. Winner 2

Div 4

Preliminary Round - 05/09/09

Cornafean vs. Cuchullains

Semi Finals

1. Winner of Prelim game vs. Cootehill
2. Kildallan vs. Ballymachugh

First named teams have home advantage up to and including the semi finals
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Babe Ruth 47 on August 14, 2009, 05:40:36 PM
A town the size of Cootehill an their minor team is only in Division 4!! Something seriously wrong
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on August 14, 2009, 06:01:06 PM
Quote from: Babe Ruth 47 on August 14, 2009, 05:40:36 PM
A town the size of Cootehill an their minor team is only in Division 4!! Something seriously wrong

Dont start Celt man off on another rant!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on August 14, 2009, 07:00:20 PM
Quote from: put-it-up on August 14, 2009, 06:01:06 PM
Quote from: Babe Ruth 47 on August 14, 2009, 05:40:36 PM
A town the size of Cootehill an their minor team is only in Division 4!! Something seriously wrong

Dont start Celt man off on another rant!

Yea there was no division 5 so division 4 had to do but thanks for the concern...

As I have already said before Cootehill as a club has no boundaries and it's open seasion for Drumgoon especially for anyone in town...
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on August 14, 2009, 07:02:51 PM
Quote from: RednBlack on August 14, 2009, 05:53:20 PM
Quote from: Celt_Man on August 14, 2009, 04:45:08 PM

Div 2

Preliminary Round - 05/09/09

Drumgoon vs Lacken

Quarter Finals - 08/09/09

1. Lavey vs. Crosserlough
2. Knockbride vs. St Finbarrs
3. Drumalee vs, Slibh Glah Gaels What do you think Booj??? Can the mountain neighbours beat the town neighbours???
4. Castlerahan vs. Winner or Prelim Game

Semi Final Draw

Winner 4 vs. Winner 2
Winner 3 vs. Winner 1


First named teams have home advantage up to and including the semi finals

The Drumalee delegate at the meeting the other night, basically said that because they were still placed in Division 2 despite their poor performance in the league and not relegated - the players will have no interest and they will probably not get a team together - well done County Board
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on August 15, 2009, 01:00:41 PM
Pretty bad game in the park last night..Shamrocks scraped past Drung on a scoreline of 1-5 to 7. Wet windy evening, no particularly good individual performances but happy with the result ;D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on August 15, 2009, 04:59:45 PM
Quote from: Celt_Man on August 14, 2009, 07:02:51 PM
Quote from: RednBlack on August 14, 2009, 05:53:20 PM
Quote from: Celt_Man on August 14, 2009, 04:45:08 PM

Div 2

Preliminary Round - 05/09/09

Drumgoon vs Lacken

Quarter Finals - 08/09/09

1. Lavey vs. Crosserlough
2. Knockbride vs. St Finbarrs
3. Drumalee vs, Slibh Glah Gaels What do you think Booj??? Can the mountain neighbours beat the town neighbours???
4. Castlerahan vs. Winner or Prelim Game

Semi Final Draw

Winner 4 vs. Winner 2
Winner 3 vs. Winner 1


First named teams have home advantage up to and including the semi finals
What do you think Booj??? Can the mountain neighbours beat the town neighbours???
4. Castlerahan vs. Winner or Prelim Game

Semi Final Draw

Winner 4 vs. Winner 2
Winner 3 vs. Winner 1


First named teams have home advantage up to and including the semi finals
[/quote]

The Drumalee delegate at the meeting the other night, basically said that because they were still placed in Division 2 despite their poor performance in the league and not relegated - the players will have no interest and they will probably not get a team together - well done County Board
[/quote]
We are very weak at Minor level and its a joke that we are in Division 2.But the Minor Board obviously know best.We have a panel of 18.We have some excellent footballers coming through at Under 16 level but we are very weak at Minor.Our best player has also just signed for Bohemians so I really don't know where it will leave us. On another point ,I have seen Sliabh Glabh Gaels a few times over the last few years and although they may not be the strongest I am firmly of the opinion that all Amalgamations should be in Division One.


[/quote]

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on August 15, 2009, 05:55:32 PM
Quote from: boojangles on August 15, 2009, 04:59:45 PM

We are very weak at Minor level and its a joke that we are in Division 2.But the Minor Board obviously know best.We have a panel of 18.We have some excellent footballers coming through at Under 16 level but we are very weak at Minor.Our best player has also just signed for Bohemians so I really don't know where it will leave us. On another point ,I have seen Sliabh Glabh Gaels a few times over the last few years and although they may not be the strongest I am firmly of the opinion that all Amalgamations should be in Division One.



Yea I know that can be the case, I know Mullahorn for example stong division one minor team but poor division 4 Under 16 team - sometimes it can just be blind luck with numbers and you can just get a good bunch of players coming through at the right time.

I understand your point about amalgamations - our Under 16 championship game - that we couldn't get a team for - was against Drumport and having played them in the league, half the match with 14 coz we didn't have a sub to replace an injured player they aren't strong and it would serve no purpose having them as cannon fodder in div 1.  My solution would be for the Co. board to provide football for a club regardless of numbers.  If a team like my own could only field an 11 a side team and don't want to go into an amalgamation then they shouldn't be forced into one and a 11 a side league should be established.  You'll find that most clubs would rather do that than amalgamate especially clubs who don't do it regularly like Killygarry, denn, drumlane templeport etc....

I think some people in this county have decided amalgamations are the way forward (and the lack of them is the reason we are doing so bad at senior level) so amalgamations will be shoved down our throats full time
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on August 15, 2009, 06:15:42 PM
Boo J, would he be signed professionaly up there or is he just playing his schoolboy football with them in hope of progressing on the bigger and better things?

With regards the amalgamations, i am not a big fan of them. This is the fourth year our club has joined with Shercock and it just doesnt seem to work.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on August 15, 2009, 10:29:45 PM
Quote from: put-it-up on August 15, 2009, 06:15:42 PM
Boo J, would he be signed professionaly up there or is he just playing his schoolboy football with them in hope of progressing on the bigger and better things?

With regards the amalgamations, i am not a big fan of them. This is the fourth year our club has joined with Shercock and it just doesnt seem to work.

Amalgamation with St. Finbarrs as Trinity Gaels last year and year before that at U 16 and Minor level, destroyed us at that level in my opinion...


Lavey won well in Breffni this evening, 1 - 12 to 1 - 4 with Drumalee only scoring a point in the second half, draw at half time

Mullahorn won 12 to 1 - 6 in the game after against Ballinagh... Mullahorn crusing in first half with Durkin goal before half time brought that back into it. Mullahorn won worth the win though solid second half
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on August 16, 2009, 04:55:52 PM
Quote from: Celt_Man on August 15, 2009, 10:29:45 PM
Quote from: put-it-up on August 15, 2009, 06:15:42 PM
Boo J, would he be signed professionaly up there or is he just playing his schoolboy football with them in hope of progressing on the bigger and better things?

With regards the amalgamations, i am not a big fan of them. This is the fourth year our club has joined with Shercock and it just doesnt seem to work.

Amalgamation with St. Finbarrs as Trinity Gaels last year and year before that at U 16 and Minor level, destroyed us at that level in my opinion...


Lavey won well in Breffni this evening, 1 - 12 to 1 - 4 with Drumalee only scoring a point in the second half, draw at half time

Mullahorn won 12 to 1 - 6 in the game after against Ballinagh... Mullahorn crusing in first half with Durkin goal before half time brought that back into it. Mullahorn won worth the win though solid second half

Would i be right in saying Ballinagh are struggling to impress this year? Are they missing Cian McDermott still?

It ridiculous in the Intermediate that because Lavey got Ballyhaise at the QF stage, it means only one team from that group of death will make the semi-final stage. There should be some seeding system to make sure teams from the same group are kept apart at the QF's.

Good for the teams in other groups though :)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on August 18, 2009, 09:44:41 AM
Just a quick point on the Mullaghoran game on Saturday.

How many points did Eddie Reilly score?  At least five and possibly more.  From frees and from play.

Should he be played at Full Forward on the county team and let Johnson, Reilly or whoever pick up the breaks that will happen. 

The difficulty would be harnessing him so he wouldn't get sent off but what do people think?  He's been only a bit player to date that I've seen and been played in a silly position e.g. on the wing or corner forward.

You wouldn't be able to fault him with lack of heart.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: the salmon of knowledge on August 18, 2009, 10:41:16 AM
Eddie played well alright in the 1st half. with 7 or 8 minutes to go though when he kicked a bad wide, seemed to show that he is a little off IC, that was to put 4 between the teams and effectively kill the game off and he didn't.
Eddie sometimes doesn't seem to realise the time he has on the ball as he tends to shoot without any sort of composure
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on August 18, 2009, 11:13:00 AM
Of the six forwards that Cavan used, how many were scoring forward?  Johnson, Reilly and Mackey I suppose you could say so that leaves 1 out of three that Eddie could fill.  And it funny, but I don't think of Eddie in a scoring role but of as battering ram with the added bonus of being able to score.
Quote from: the salmon of knowledge on August 18, 2009, 10:41:16 AM
Eddie played well alright in the 1st half. with 7 or 8 minutes to go though when he kicked a bad wide, seemed to show that he is a little off IC, that was to put 4 between the teams and effectively kill the game off and he didn't.
Eddie sometimes doesn't seem to realise the time he has on the ball as he tends to shoot without any sort of composure

You say that he had a bad miss and so is a little off IC class but on a county team there are five other forwards and it shouldn't be up to one player to finish a team off.  He also has the bonus that when he kicks for a point, the ball stays kicked, no falling into the keepers hands and starting off an attack.

Enough about Eddie. 

Did Paul Brady have a one off bad game?  I was not impressed with his Distribution, skying the ball as he made cross field passes? 
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Drung on August 18, 2009, 02:21:26 PM
QuoteI don't think of Eddie in a scoring roll

I don't think of him in any type of roll. Well, actually, I once imagined him in a chicken fillet roll with coleslaw. It was delicious.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on August 18, 2009, 02:42:32 PM
Quote from: Drung on August 18, 2009, 02:21:26 PM
QuoteI don't think of Eddie in a scoring roll

I don't think of him in any type of roll. Well, actually, I once imagined him in a chicken fillet roll with coleslaw. It was delicious.

Haha

Imagine eating Eddie!That would be on scary roll.

I don't think Eddie is up to it at that level. How many chances has he had in the past few years you know?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on August 18, 2009, 04:03:11 PM
So its Brady,   Flanagan, Mackey
        Johnson Cullivan     Reilly next year? 

All proven IC forwards?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on August 18, 2009, 04:36:35 PM
Quote from: Denn Forever on August 18, 2009, 04:03:11 PM
So its Brady,   Flanagan, Mackey
        Johnson Cullivan     Reilly next year? 

All proven IC forwards?

I think it is too early for predicting next year's team. Think Carr may take a gamble on a few lads.

I also think Sean Brady is pretty bad.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Owenmoresider on August 18, 2009, 06:05:55 PM
Just wondering, how come there was a playoff between Lavey and Drumalee last weekend? Looking at the results, it looks to me that Ballyhaise and Lavey had 4 points, and Drumalee 2. This is from hoganstand, so there may well be a mistake. BHman or anyone know?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on August 18, 2009, 10:01:59 PM
Quote from: Owenmoresider on August 18, 2009, 06:05:55 PM
Just wondering, how come there was a playoff between Lavey and Drumalee last weekend? Looking at the results, it looks to me that Ballyhaise and Lavey had 4 points, and Drumalee 2. This is from hoganstand, so there may well be a mistake. BHman or anyone know?
Drumalee Won, Drew and Lost = 3 points
Lavey Lost, Won and Drew = 3 points
Ballyhaise Won, Drew and Drew = 4 points
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on August 18, 2009, 10:14:52 PM
Quote from: Lawrence of Knockbride on August 18, 2009, 10:01:59 PM
Quote from: Owenmoresider on August 18, 2009, 06:05:55 PM
Just wondering, how come there was a playoff between Lavey and Drumalee last weekend? Looking at the results, it looks to me that Ballyhaise and Lavey had 4 points, and Drumalee 2. This is from hoganstand, so there may well be a mistake. BHman or anyone know?
Drumalee Won, Drew and Lost = 3 points
Lavey Lost, Won and Drew = 3 points
Ballyhaise Won, Drew and Drew = 4 points

All that confusion started with several places reporting a draw between Lavey and Drumalee which was incorrect obviously
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on August 20, 2009, 04:24:58 PM
Draw for the senior Club championship in Ulster.

Ulster senior club football championship draw

Sunday, October 18 - Preliminary round: Cavan v Antrim.
Sunday, November 1 - Quarter-finals: Derry v Fermanagh, Down v Donegal, Monaghan v Tyrone, Armagh v Cavan/Antrim.
Sunday, November 15 - Semi-finals: Derry/Fermanagh v Down/Donegal, Monaghan/Tyrone v Armagh/Cavan/Antrim.
Sunday, November 29 - Final.

Will the Senior Championsip be over before Oct. 18?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on August 20, 2009, 04:32:28 PM
Quote from: Owenmoresider on August 18, 2009, 06:05:55 PM
Just wondering, how come there was a playoff between Lavey and Drumalee last weekend? Looking at the results, it looks to me that Ballyhaise and Lavey had 4 points, and Drumalee 2. This is from hoganstand, so there may well be a mistake. BHman or anyone know?

as the lads said,
It was reported from different sources that Lavey and Drumalee drew the first game,when Drumalee edged it.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on August 20, 2009, 04:34:31 PM
Quote from: Denn Forever on August 20, 2009, 04:24:58 PM
Draw for the senior Club championship in Ulster.

Ulster senior club football championship draw

Sunday, October 18 - Preliminary round: Cavan v Antrim.
Sunday, November 1 - Quarter-finals: Derry v Fermanagh, Down v Donegal, Monaghan v Tyrone, Armagh v Cavan/Antrim.
Sunday, November 15 - Semi-finals: Derry/Fermanagh v Down/Donegal, Monaghan/Tyrone v Armagh/Cavan/Antrim.
Sunday, November 29 - Final.

Will the Senior Championsip be over before Oct. 18?

Yes
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on August 20, 2009, 04:35:33 PM
Quote from: Denn Forever on August 20, 2009, 04:24:58 PM
Draw for the senior Club championship in Ulster.

Ulster senior club football championship draw

Sunday, October 18 - Preliminary round: Cavan v Antrim.
Sunday, November 1 - Quarter-finals: Derry v Fermanagh, Down v Donegal, Monaghan v Tyrone, Armagh v Cavan/Antrim.
Sunday, November 15 - Semi-finals: Derry/Fermanagh v Down/Donegal, Monaghan/Tyrone v Armagh/Cavan/Antrim.
Sunday, November 29 - Final.

Will the Senior Championsip be over before Oct. 18?

Denn/Castlerahan 30th August
Rest of  quarter final games 5/6 september

Semi Final?? probably the 19th/20th Sept

Final ---4th October id say.

Replays could f**k it up,but id say we will have it safely over in time.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on August 20, 2009, 07:34:00 PM
I see Keating in the Celt giving his version of events-basically that he DID NOT to Oxegen.  :-X
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on August 22, 2009, 03:55:35 PM
Quote from: Lawrence of Knockbride on August 20, 2009, 07:34:00 PM
I see Keating in the Celt giving his version of events-basically that he DID NOT to Oxegen.  :-X

Jaysus this board has been firece quiet the last week or so....

Gonna have to take Keating at his word there, brutal rumour to start about a young lad...

Hard to see Drung repeating their earlier win over Drumgoon again tonight in Breffni although you never know... The reason I say this is, Drumgoon were terrible that day and would be very surprised if they were that bad again
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on August 22, 2009, 06:30:48 PM
Quote from: Celt_Man on August 22, 2009, 03:55:35 PM
Quote from: Lawrence of Knockbride on August 20, 2009, 07:34:00 PM
I see Keating in the Celt giving his version of events-basically that he DID NOT to Oxegen.  :-X

Jaysus this board has been firece quiet the last week or so....

Gonna have to take Keating at his word there, brutal rumour to start about a young lad...

Hard to see Drung repeating their earlier win over Drumgoon again tonight in Breffni although you never know... The reason I say this is, Drumgoon were terrible that day and would be very surprised if they were that bad again

Yeah things have been shocking quiet...Maybe a few of the boys got jobs or something :)

Be very surprised if Drumgoon made an arse of it twice. They shoulda bet them the first time and they wouldn't have needed a playoff. Stopping Fannin is the key - a job will have to be done on him if Drung are to pull it off.

Yeah and i heard from plenty of people that are well informed that Keating was there. Seemed to be pretty genuine in the interview though
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on August 22, 2009, 09:15:33 PM
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Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on August 23, 2009, 12:51:10 AM
Quote from: Celt_Man on August 22, 2009, 03:55:35 PM
Quote from: Lawrence of Knockbride on August 20, 2009, 07:34:00 PM
I see Keating in the Celt giving his version of events-basically that he DID NOT to Oxegen.  :-X

Jaysus this board has been firece quiet the last week or so....

Gonna have to take Keating at his word there, brutal rumour to start about a young lad...

Hard to see Drung repeating their earlier win over Drumgoon again tonight in Breffni although you never know... The reason I say this is, Drumgoon were terrible that day and would be very surprised if they were that bad again

To quote Manuel from Faulty Towers - I know nothing.... Drung 4 point winners this evening 2 -11 to 1 - 10 with Fannin grabbing a goal in injury time... completely deserved though with Martin Reilly scoring two great goals, wee Paddy Mc ran the Goonie defence around the place again...  Drumgoon look a poor enough team going by the two championship games I saw them although it could be Drung are just gonna be a bogey team for them...
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on August 23, 2009, 01:33:18 AM
surprised by the Drung result, i must say.

Over the past couple of years, Drumgoon seem to have bottled it when the pressure is on them. Play nice football but when push comes to shove they seem to always be left disappointed.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on August 23, 2009, 03:11:06 AM
Best team won by far last night.  If frees were kicked last week wouldnt have to be there last nite. Good battle with kill next.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on August 24, 2009, 10:12:10 PM
I would expect Drung to beat Kill on Friday... Any word on any Division One results from yesterday? Did I hear right about Gaels Killygarry being called off at half time?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on August 25, 2009, 12:27:42 AM
Fixtures and venues lads for the coming week



Friday, 28th August 2009 @ 8pm
Hotel Kilmore Intermediate Championship Quarter Final
Kill v Drung
Venue:  Kingspan Breffni Park
Referee: Michael Lee
Linesmen:  Tony Gregory & Peter Fahy

Friday, 28th August 2009 @ 8pm
Hotel Kilmore Junior B Final
Belturbet v Castlerahan
Venue:  Our Lady of Lourdes Park, Mullahoran
Referee:  Jim Giblin
Linesmen:  Oliver O'Reilly & MG Brady

Saturday, 29th August 2009 @ 6pm
Hotel Kilmore Intermediate Championship Quarter Final
Bailieborough v Killinkere
Venue:  Ramor Park, Virginia
Referee: Padraig Kelleher
Linesmen:  John Smith & Gerry Skelly
Lavey v Ballyhaise
Venue:  Kingspan Breffni Park
Referee: MG Brady
Linesmen:  John Emmo & Ollie Henry
Cootehill v Knockbride (Game at 7.30pm)
Venue:  Kingspan Breffni Park
Referee: Jimmy Galligan - Killygarry
Linesmen:  John Pat Martin & Harry Conaty

Saturday, 29th August 2009 @ 6pm
Hotel Kilmore Junior Championship Quarter Final
Shannon Gaels v Cavan Gaels
Venue:  St Aidan's Park, Bawnboy
Referee: Jim Hyland
Linesmen:  Thomas Doonan & Padraig Gilheaney



Saturday, 29th August 2009 @ 5pm
Imperial Bar A.C.F.L. Division 1
Killygarry v Mullahoran
Referee:  John Smith

Sunday, 30th August 2009 @ 1pm
Hotel Kilmore Junior Championship Quarter Final
Arva v Swanlinbar
Venue:  Pairc na gCead Uladh, Ballyconnell
Referee: Noel Mooney
Linesmen: Stephen McKiernan & Liam Kelly

Sunday, 30th August 2009 @ 1pm
Hotel Kilmore Senior Championship Relegation Play Off
Kingscourt v Ballinagh
Venue:  Hugh O'Reilly Memorial Park, Cootehill
Referee: Patrick Brady
Linesmen:  Kieran McCarville & Declan McCabe
Ramor v Cuchulainn
Venue:  Lavey GAA Grounds, Lavey
Referee: Brian Crowe
Linesmen: Sean Smith & James Clarke
Lacken v Crosserlough
Venue:  Athletic Grounds, Crubany
Referee: Martin Sexton
Linesmen: Damien Brady & Paddy Carroll

Sunday, 30th August 2009 @ 1pm
Hotel Kilmore Junior C Semi Final
Killinkere v Ballyhaise
Venue: PJ Duke Park, Stradone
Referee:  Margaret Farrelly

Sunday, 30th August 2009 @ 7pm
Hotel Kilmore Senior Championship Quarter Final
Denn v Castlerahan
Venue:  Kingspan Breffni Park
Referee: Gerry Sheridan
Linesmen:  Martin Brady Lacken & Jimmy Galligan Lacken





Sunday, 30th August 2009 @ 6pm
Hotel Kilmore Junior Championship Quarter Final
Butlersbridge v Kildallon
Venue:  O'Connell Park, Drumlane
Referee: Packie Smith
Linesmen:  Philip Devine & Gavin Smith



Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on August 25, 2009, 12:46:27 PM
Lying in bed bored, so thought I'd make a stab at predictions.

SFC
Denn v Castlerahan - Denn will do their best to snuff out the Castlerahan defence but Mackey and Co. should be too much for them.

Senior Championship Relegation Play Off

Kingscourt v Ballinagh - MMM, I fancy Ballinagh to win this one. Kingscourt seem to have gone off the boil.

Ramor v Cuchulainns - They met in the groups and drew but I think Ramor have a better balanced team. Again should be fairly close.

Lacken v Crosserlough - Just find Crosserlough so hard to watch and think Lacken will consign them to another defeat


IFC

Kill v Drung - Drung have lost twice already this year but can't see them losing out here.

Bailieborough v Killinkere - Should be very close. Big local derby and Killinkere will be well up for this. Think our boy's will edge it.

Lavey v Ballyhaise - Whoever wins this will be favourites for the IFC this year. Again close but I think Mickey Graham's know-how might swing it Ballyhaise's way.

Cootehill v Knockbride - Saw these two teams meet at the group stage. Knockbride's forwards in Breffni should do the business for them.

JFC
Shannon Gaels v Cavan Gaels - I doubt Shannon Gaels will want to lose to a second team and they have been going well in Division three so I will give them the benefit of the doubt.

Arva v Swanlinbar - Swad still without McKiernan but should edge a relatively close contest

Butlersbridge v Kildallon - The bridge to book their semi-final spot.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on August 28, 2009, 02:25:14 PM
SFC
Denn v Castlerahan - I would expect Castlerahan to win this, they looked reasonably impressive way back in the first round when I saw them

Senior Championship Relegation Play Off

Kingscourt v Ballinagh - I've seen both of them in their last championship match and I think Kingscourt have the greater class in the forwards, Ballinagh got two goals both against the run of play in both games against Mullahorn to being them back which was lucky enough

Ramor v Cuchulainns - Have pnly seen ramor once this year and for a spell they were very good against C'rahan but fell apart after half time if they could repeat that spell for longer maybe Ramor to win??

Lacken v Crosserlough - Two teams I haven't seen in a long time so not really sure at all, hard to base your opinions by some of the reporting done at these games either. if pushed I would go with Ray Galliagan and Fnbarr Reilly carrying Lacken to win by a few points but I'm going on names here which I hate doing...

IFC

Kill v Drung -  Saw both teams last weekend and going by that, Drung no question but local derbies have a thing about throwing form out the window, still unless they freeze or got an injury or bad performance from someone like Alan Curran, drung by 2

Bailieborough v Killinkere - Hmmm, saw Killinkere last week were impressive enough, sending off of centre forward won't help, the extra games will help Bailieboro - is jeff Martin fit to play, he has impressed in recent weeks for them... Bailieboro by 3 or 4 but local derby again

Lavey v Ballyhaise -  I think this is a lottery to be honest, Ballyhaise outplayed them for the first half and then stayed in the dressing rooms at half time, would a draw be out of the question?? or a one point win either way (fliippin hell I'm covering myself in these last few ones) but sure whoever wins this, is a cert for the title sure if we were to win we mightn't even bother playing the semi, such is the certainty of the winner coming from this game ;D ;D


Cootehill v Knockbride - No comment

JFC
Shannon Gaels v Cavan Gaels - Would like to say Shannon Gaels but really don't know to be honest

Arva v Swanlinbar - Again haven't a clue, Swad's best win came against half a shercock team so not that much to be shouting about but the group stages was all about gettin out of them, the real football is being played now so... well I haven't a clue really... Swad by a few???

Butlersbridge v Kildallon - Gonna go for the Bridge here, not too sure why though!!

Man, I know feck all about Junior Championship, guess thats coz no local teams involved in it so I don't go to many matches
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on August 28, 2009, 11:53:29 PM
Drung won by a point this evening in the park... 7 points to 6. with paddy mac getting the winner in injury time. McKenna got the line with a second yellow with 10 minutes to go and he had a penalty saved by Miller in the first half. 3 all at half time
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on August 29, 2009, 12:48:56 AM
Quote from: Celt_Man on August 28, 2009, 11:53:29 PM
Drung won by a point this evening in the park... 7 points to 6. with paddy mac getting the winner in injury time. McKenna got the line with a second yellow with 10 minutes to go and he had a penalty saved by Miller in the first half. 3 all at half time
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Sounds like a pretty awful game! Good win for Drung though. Its weird that despite losing twice in the championship their still in a semi-final.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on August 29, 2009, 01:26:08 AM
Quote from: put-it-up on August 29, 2009, 12:48:56 AM
Quote from: Celt_Man on August 28, 2009, 11:53:29 PM
Drung won by a point this evening in the park... 7 points to 6. with paddy mac getting the winner in injury time. McKenna got the line with a second yellow with 10 minutes to go and he had a penalty saved by Miller in the first half. 3 all at half time
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Sounds like a pretty awful game! Good win for Drung though. Its weird that despite losing twice in the championship their still in a semi-final.

well it wasn't really... some of the play was sloppy and plenty of mistakes but a close game which was very entertaining...

kinda a pet hate of mine where people automatically assume that if a game was low scoring it was awful
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on August 29, 2009, 11:16:17 AM
Ah i was talking to someonee else who said it was poor.

By all means he said it was competitive but he did say quality was lacking.

i would say the game in virginia later will be similiar ;D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on August 29, 2009, 12:06:26 PM
Very poor fare indeed but very exciting all the same.Kill IMO were the better team,but missed a heap of chances. there was no lack of commitment from either side but the shooting and passing left alot to be desired. Barry Watters came on early for Drung but is definitely not near right yet,seemed to b still carrying a leg.Made no impact really.Patrick McEntee was marked well throughout but still scored 2 vital points. Kill could have won it in the dying seconds when James Reilly fumbled in his box but somehow a Drung defender got his leg to it.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on August 29, 2009, 01:59:54 PM
Barry has awful luck with injuries and he is so good for them he prob was rushed back.

How did McKenna get on, any life left on those legs?

Anyone seen anybody making a case for a county-call up so far?

Have not seen to many myself to be honest
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tierworker blue on August 29, 2009, 09:12:33 PM
Bailieborough won 1.14 to 1.12
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on August 30, 2009, 06:19:35 PM
Ramor bet Cucu's by two points in a scrappy enough game. Kingscourt drew with Ballinagh and there was no separating Lacken or Crosserlough either!

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on August 30, 2009, 06:22:39 PM
Tommy Carr on the radio commentating on the Kerry Meath game, do you think he'll spot much new talent for the panel down there ::)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Drung on August 30, 2009, 06:32:49 PM
Who was the ref in that game Red n Black?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on August 30, 2009, 06:46:31 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on August 30, 2009, 06:22:39 PM
Tommy Carr on the radio commentating on the Kerry Meath game, do you think he'll spot much new talent for the panel down there ::)

Haha, and Niall Lynch was playing against Ramor so the scouting would have been left to Peter today!

Havin seen too many standout performances in the last few weeks.

Damien Barkey from Ramor looks like he is developing into a nice corner-back.

When is the draw made for the semi's
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on August 30, 2009, 07:19:43 PM
Quote from: put-it-up on August 30, 2009, 06:46:31 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on August 30, 2009, 06:22:39 PM
Tommy Carr on the radio commentating on the Kerry Meath game, do you think he'll spot much new talent for the panel down there ::)

Damien Barkey from Ramor looks like he is developing into a nice corner-back.


We have enough of them.
You would hope that the scouting duties are being taken care off for all championship games but I just wouldn't be so sure.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on August 30, 2009, 07:30:43 PM
Quote from: boojangles on August 30, 2009, 07:19:43 PM
Quote from: put-it-up on August 30, 2009, 06:46:31 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on August 30, 2009, 06:22:39 PM
Tommy Carr on the radio commentating on the Kerry Meath game, do you think he'll spot much new talent for the panel down there ::)

Damien Barkey from Ramor looks like he is developing into a nice corner-back.


We have enough of them.
You would hope that the scouting duties are being taken care off for all championship games but I just wouldn't be so sure.

Now now boojangles, you know what I meant don't be such a smart arse :)

Think he has serious potential. No nonsense and is like ronseal....does exactly what it says on the tin!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on August 30, 2009, 08:14:50 PM
IFC SF:
Bailieborough v Lavey
Drung v Cootehill

JFC:
Swad v Cornafean
Cavan Gaels v The Bridge
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on August 30, 2009, 09:16:18 PM
Denn beat the darlings of Cavan football Castlerathan tonight in a bit of shock. Fully deserved in my view. Denn epitomise what Cavan football doesn't have in general-balls and heart. They all give 100% and can tackle properly. The only negative thing to say about them is that Cahill spends the hour (and even some of the HT break) winding up his man. I was particularly impressed with Colin Kiernan for the second time this year. Probably a step below what's needed for the county but worth a look.
Methinks the boys from Ballyduff took this one for granted a little.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Babe Ruth 47 on August 30, 2009, 09:31:20 PM
The boys from Ballyduff were over hyped and are notorious bottlers. Some lovely footballers but have never really made a decent impact in the championship. Denn are extremely difficult to play against, as lawerence said, work rate, tackling, and determination in spadefulls.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on August 30, 2009, 09:39:01 PM
Quote from: Lawrence of Knockbride on August 30, 2009, 09:16:18 PM
Denn beat the darlings of Cavan football Castlerathan tonight in a bit of shock. Fully deserved in my view. Denn epitomise what Cavan football doesn't have in general-balls and heart. They all give 100% and can tackle properly. The only negative thing to say about them is that Cahill spends the hour (and even some of the HT break) winding up his man. I was particularly impressed with Colin Kiernan for the second time this year. Probably a step below what's needed for the county but worth a look.
Methinks the boys from Ballyduff took this one for granted a little.

What wrong with winding up his man? I bet it was effective was it not?Another problem with Cavan football....a lot of the players are too nice.
You think Ryan McMenamin cares what peope think of him once he gets his job done?

Castlerahan are defo bottlers. Always hyped but never live up to expectation. How was Mackey? I imagine he did not enjoy Denn's swarm defence too much!!!!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on August 30, 2009, 09:54:02 PM
Quote from: RednBlack on August 30, 2009, 09:45:33 PM
Quote from: Drung on August 30, 2009, 06:32:49 PM
Who was the ref in that game Red n Black?

John Smith

Was in at Denn CRahan game. Yes Denn were in their faces all night but I still think the off the ball stuff and mouthing is low. Especially at end of game when a few of their players got in the faces of the losers. Not on IMO.
Mackey took lots of stuff but still went over very easy at times. Heard Cusack pooped his hip out and another ambulance in for a Denn lad.

Lacken Crosserlough was poor but Raymond Galligan a very bright light. As sweet a free taker as there is around and is general play was very good. Impressed by Colm Smith last night and Pierce McKenna cleaned Ciaran Galligan on Friday night.

That must have been pretty sore on Cusack's behind. Never heard anything like that happening in a game before..Doubt his bum is the better of that experience  ;D ;D ;D

Aye Ray Galligan has something to offer, just not sure from what position though at IC level.

A lad from my own club is a serious man marker. Very old fashioned corner-back - no nonsense. I really think Carr and Co. need to find one or two of them.

Would McKenna still be up to county standard


Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on August 30, 2009, 10:13:33 PM
Quote from: put-it-up on August 30, 2009, 09:54:02 PM
Quote from: RednBlack on August 30, 2009, 09:45:33 PM
Quote from: Drung on August 30, 2009, 06:32:49 PM
Who was the ref in that game Red n Black?

John Smith

Was in at Denn CRahan game. Yes Denn were in their faces all night but I still think the off the ball stuff and mouthing is low. Especially at end of game when a few of their players got in the faces of the losers. Not on IMO.
Mackey took lots of stuff but still went over very easy at times. Heard Cusack pooped his hip out and another ambulance in for a Denn lad.

Lacken Crosserlough was poor but Raymond Galligan a very bright light. As sweet a free taker as there is around and is general play was very good. Impressed by Colm Smith last night and Pierce McKenna cleaned Ciaran Galligan on Friday night.

That must have been pretty sore on Cusack's behind. Never heard anything like that happening in a game before..Doubt his bum is the better of that experience  ;D ;D ;D

Aye Ray Galligan has something to offer, just not sure from what position though at IC level.

A lad from my own club is a serious man marker. Very old fashioned corner-back - no nonsense. I really think Carr and Co. need to find one or two of them.

Would McKenna still be up to county standard

He must have tore the hole of himself :D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on August 31, 2009, 08:44:15 AM
Quote from: put-it-up on August 30, 2009, 09:39:01 PM
Quote from: Lawrence of Knockbride on August 30, 2009, 09:16:18 PM
Denn beat the darlings of Cavan football Castlerathan tonight in a bit of shock. Fully deserved in my view. Denn epitomise what Cavan football doesn't have in general-balls and heart. They all give 100% and can tackle properly. The only negative thing to say about them is that Cahill spends the hour (and even some of the HT break) winding up his man. I was particularly impressed with Colin Kiernan for the second time this year. Probably a step below what's needed for the county but worth a look.
Methinks the boys from Ballyduff took this one for granted a little.

What wrong with winding up his man? I bet it was effective was it not?Another problem with Cavan football....a lot of the players are too nice.
You think Ryan McMenamin cares what peope think of him once he gets his job done?

Castlerahan are defo bottlers. Always hyped but never live up to expectation. How was Mackey? I imagine he did not enjoy Denn's swarm defence too much!!!!

Go for the ball hard and fair when it's there to be won. That's how you play the game. There's no call for that type of bullshit. Disappointing comment Put-It-Up.

Mackey went down easy the first time and I was surprised. But then I saw him having to head off for treatment to his mouth about 5 minutes later again so maybe he did get a smack.

I think McKenna has made it clear that he has no interest in playing for the county again. I'm surprised he's still playing with the club. Is Conor McCarey back playing with them?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Drung on August 31, 2009, 09:46:19 AM
QuoteDenn beat the darlings of Cavan football Castlerathan tonight in a bit of shock. Fully deserved in my view. Denn epitomise what Cavan football doesn't have in general-balls and heart. They all give 100% and can tackle properly. The only negative thing to say about them is that Cahill spends the hour (and even some of the HT break) winding up his man. I was particularly impressed with Colin Kiernan for the second time this year. Probably a step below what's needed for the county but worth a look.
Methinks the boys from Ballyduff took this one for granted a little.

Denn were full value for their win I thought.
Kiernan had an excellent first half but kicked three awful wides under pressure late on and gave the ball away very cheaply at one crucial stage too. No point in trying the likes of him at county level, decent club player but would never ben anywhere close to being a good county player. I would like to see Corr tried. Ronan Kiernan was good too.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on August 31, 2009, 11:32:58 AM
Quote from: Lawrence of Knockbride on August 31, 2009, 08:44:15 AM
Quote from: put-it-up on August 30, 2009, 09:39:01 PM
Quote from: Lawrence of Knockbride on August 30, 2009, 09:16:18 PM
Denn beat the darlings of Cavan football Castlerathan tonight in a bit of shock. Fully deserved in my view. Denn epitomise what Cavan football doesn't have in general-balls and heart. They all give 100% and can tackle properly. The only negative thing to say about them is that Cahill spends the hour (and even some of the HT break) winding up his man. I was particularly impressed with Colin Kiernan for the second time this year. Probably a step below what's needed for the county but worth a look.
Methinks the boys from Ballyduff took this one for granted a little.

What wrong with winding up his man? I bet it was effective was it not?Another problem with Cavan football....a lot of the players are too nice.
You think Ryan McMenamin cares what peope think of him once he gets his job done?

Castlerahan are defo bottlers. Always hyped but never live up to expectation. How was Mackey? I imagine he did not enjoy Denn's swarm defence too much!!!!

Go for the ball hard and fair when it's there to be won. That's how you play the game. There's no call for that type of bullshit. Disappointing comment Put-It-Up.
Mackey went down easy the first time and I was surprised. But then I saw him having to head off for treatment to his mouth about 5 minutes later again so maybe he did get a smack.

I think McKenna has made it clear that he has no interest in playing for the county again. I'm surprised he's still playing with the club. Is Conor McCarey back playing with them?


I dunno Lawrence. I know it is not nice to watch and it probably is abit harder to stomach at club football between lads from the same county that know each other. Like I wouldn't be a big fan of it myself but if it helped my team win I wouldn't care. You gotta do what you gotta do in them 60 minutes.

Win and wind-up your man or lose and be polite and sound? I know which one I'd prefer even if it not the nicest way to go about your business. 

Were too polite around these parts. Sometimes you have to cross the line just to get your job done.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on August 31, 2009, 01:24:11 PM
I agree we're too nice but lads might be better trying to enhance their actual game than taking part in this type of behaviour.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on August 31, 2009, 01:56:28 PM
Quote from: put-it-up on August 31, 2009, 11:32:58 AM
Quote from: Lawrence of Knockbride on August 31, 2009, 08:44:15 AM
Quote from: put-it-up on August 30, 2009, 09:39:01 PM
Quote from: Lawrence of Knockbride on August 30, 2009, 09:16:18 PM
Denn beat the darlings of Cavan football Castlerathan tonight in a bit of shock. Fully deserved in my view. Denn epitomise what Cavan football doesn't have in general-balls and heart. They all give 100% and can tackle properly. The only negative thing to say about them is that Cahill spends the hour (and even some of the HT break) winding up his man. I was particularly impressed with Colin Kiernan for the second time this year. Probably a step below what's needed for the county but worth a look.
Methinks the boys from Ballyduff took this one for granted a little.

What wrong with winding up his man? I bet it was effective was it not?Another problem with Cavan football....a lot of the players are too nice.
You think Ryan McMenamin cares what peope think of him once he gets his job done?

Castlerahan are defo bottlers. Always hyped but never live up to expectation. How was Mackey? I imagine he did not enjoy Denn's swarm defence too much!!!!

Go for the ball hard and fair when it's there to be won. That's how you play the game. There's no call for that type of bullshit. Disappointing comment Put-It-Up.
Mackey went down easy the first time and I was surprised. But then I saw him having to head off for treatment to his mouth about 5 minutes later again so maybe he did get a smack.

I think McKenna has made it clear that he has no interest in playing for the county again. I'm surprised he's still playing with the club. Is Conor McCarey back playing with them?


I dunno Lawrence. I know it is not nice to watch and it probably is abit harder to stomach at club football between lads from the same county that know each other. Like I wouldn't be a big fan of it myself but if it helped my team win I wouldn't care. You gotta do what you gotta do in them 60 minutes.

Win and wind-up your man or lose and be polite and sound? I know which one I'd prefer even if it not the nicest way to go about your business. 

Were too polite around these parts. Sometimes you have to cross the line just to get your job done.

Couldn't agree more... for feck sake lads, we play in Ulster where you have such "nice" teams like Tyrone, Monaghan, Armagh Derry - some of the "nicest" teams in the country.  No point in getting used to lovely flowing football admiring each other on the field and then when it comes down to it for Cavan to make any progress in Ulster we are too soft and used to playing "nice" football.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on August 31, 2009, 02:14:53 PM
The following has been forwarded on to all clubs for discussion from the County Board.At least they are giving the clubs a chance to engage in the decisions that affect everybody. Have a read and if you feel strongly enough about any points let your club Secretary know. There are definitely some points I will be making my feelings known about.

Discussion points for clubs

Please discuss the following points and Master Fixture Plan with your club members.
Return your recommendations to me by the 18 of September for discussion at the next Co Committee meeting on 21st  September.
Please put forward practical recommendations to the problems your club has encountered and to improve the quality of football in Cavan.

A.C.F.L. League Division 1 to 6:

1. At a weekend where this is a full round of 1 to 6 should division 4 to 6 be played first i.e. Divison 4 to 6 played on a Saturday and division 1 to 3 on a Sunday?
2.  Should the games that are played with no county players, be played in the 13 day rule for county players playing in Inter County Championship instead of no games taking place?
3.  Should postponed games take place on Wednesday evenings?
4.  Is it right to run a round of league games in the middle of championship?
5.  Finals only in Division 4 to 6?
6.  Is League Competition started too early in year?
7.  Is Division 4 to 6 over too early?
8.  Should there be more league games at senior level? i.e. home and away.
9. Should games be changed after been fixed to accommodate club issues?
10. Is the policy of agreeing with opposing club to change date/time of game working?
11.   Are the fixtures 4 weeks in advance working?
12. Should clubs name 14 players who cannot play second team football in the league, this would stop clubs playing a lot of players in 2 teams and keep fringe players playing?
13. Is there a way the first 12 / 10 are sorted out?
14. If a club grounds is unplayable , and the opposing team grounds is playable, should that game move to the opposing club grounds and the original club get the gate?
15.  Should Division 3 teams be relegated to Division 4?

Hotel Kilmore Championship:

1.  Do we start Championship too late?
2.  Should quarter finals be an open draw?
3.  Should there be a week's holidays in the plan for holidays in July or August.  This would mean there would be no need to change fixtures for holidays?
4.  Are the county finals played too late?
5.  Time of year for Under 21 Championship
6.  Should there be senior /inter/junior championship games on Wednesday and Thursday nights
7.  Is Junior B, C and D competitions played on Wednesday evening working ok?
8.  Should the semi finals be seeded in the senior championship?

Master Fixture Plan
Please forward recommendations or observations on plan.

Bord na nÓg comments.
5 Divisions  is working well.

Shield finals only .No shield semi finals.

Two touch a great success.

Under 12 medals to be presented on the night (possibly by a prominent county player)Gold to winners and Silver to runners up.

No cups to be presented at U/12 level.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on August 31, 2009, 02:22:03 PM
Quote from: Celt_Man on August 31, 2009, 01:56:28 PM
Quote from: put-it-up on August 31, 2009, 11:32:58 AM
Quote from: Lawrence of Knockbride on August 31, 2009, 08:44:15 AM
Quote from: put-it-up on August 30, 2009, 09:39:01 PM
Quote from: Lawrence of Knockbride on August 30, 2009, 09:16:18 PM
Denn beat the darlings of Cavan football Castlerathan tonight in a bit of shock. Fully deserved in my view. Denn epitomise what Cavan football doesn't have in general-balls and heart. They all give 100% and can tackle properly. The only negative thing to say about them is that Cahill spends the hour (and even some of the HT break) winding up his man. I was particularly impressed with Colin Kiernan for the second time this year. Probably a step below what's needed for the county but worth a look.
Methinks the boys from Ballyduff took this one for granted a little.

What wrong with winding up his man? I bet it was effective was it not?Another problem with Cavan football....a lot of the players are too nice.
You think Ryan McMenamin cares what peope think of him once he gets his job done?

Castlerahan are defo bottlers. Always hyped but never live up to expectation. How was Mackey? I imagine he did not enjoy Denn's swarm defence too much!!!!

Go for the ball hard and fair when it's there to be won. That's how you play the game. There's no call for that type of bullshit. Disappointing comment Put-It-Up.
Mackey went down easy the first time and I was surprised. But then I saw him having to head off for treatment to his mouth about 5 minutes later again so maybe he did get a smack.

I think McKenna has made it clear that he has no interest in playing for the county again. I'm surprised he's still playing with the club. Is Conor McCarey back playing with them?


I dunno Lawrence. I know it is not nice to watch and it probably is abit harder to stomach at club football between lads from the same county that know each other. Like I wouldn't be a big fan of it myself but if it helped my team win I wouldn't care. You gotta do what you gotta do in them 60 minutes.

Win and wind-up your man or lose and be polite and sound? I know which one I'd prefer even if it not the nicest way to go about your business. 

Were too polite around these parts. Sometimes you have to cross the line just to get your job done.

Couldn't agree more... for feck sake lads, we play in Ulster where you have such "nice" teams like Tyrone, Monaghan, Armagh Derry - some of the "nicest" teams in the country.  No point in getting used to lovely flowing football admiring each other on the field and then when it comes down to it for Cavan to make any progress in Ulster we are too soft and used to playing "nice" football.

Totally agree,we'r far too f**king nice in Cavan.I am not one for Verbals TBH but theres nothing wrong with grabbing hold of your man and stopping his runs.A few raps off the ball will do no harm either.just have to be cute about it.Cavan backs have to start taking it to the limit,especially our corner backs.We need to find a few Dessie Mones.The media may not like it but if it works who gives a shit.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on August 31, 2009, 02:46:48 PM
well  ::), Just had opur yearly breakdown on Saturday,
No complaints though Lavey deserved it,we played nowhere near our potential.
i still think we have the players to win an intermediate,but where we go from here is anybodys guess.
Disasterous weekend for club as Juniors were beaten in semi final yesterday aswell.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on August 31, 2009, 02:58:05 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on August 31, 2009, 02:46:48 PM
well  ::), Just had opur yearly breakdown on Saturday,
No complaints though Lavey deserved it,we played nowhere near our potential.
i still think we have the players to win an intermediate,but where we go from here is anybodys guess.
Disasterous weekend for club as Juniors were beaten in semi final yesterday aswell.

What happened ye in the second half? You were winning at half time weren't ya? Obviously didn't get to look at any of your game.  I would imagine that Lavey are unbelievable red hot favourites for the whole thing now.
As for your juniors I can't imagine us giving them a bye in the quarter final helped you one bit
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on August 31, 2009, 03:19:04 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on August 31, 2009, 02:46:48 PM
well  ::), Just had opur yearly breakdown on Saturday,
No complaints though Lavey deserved it,we played nowhere near our potential.
i still think we have the players to win an intermediate,but where we go from here is anybodys guess.
Disasterous weekend for club as Juniors were beaten in semi final yesterday aswell.

Hard Luck BH Man,I know how you feel.Second half melt down killed your chances and it is something we were guilty of too.At HT in our game against Lavey I really felt that the game was their for us,but fair play to Lavey,They took their second chance with both hands.Lavey look to be the strongest left but who knows.Any of the 4 teams left could win it.

It really is a chronic problem in Cavan football with teams not being able to hold their form. Castlerahan,Ramor,Kingscourt,Ballyhaise,Drumalee I could go on. It seems that Ramor have gone back from last year where they looked to be so promising.Castlerahan seemed to be the team to challenge the Gaels but they bottled it when it mattered. Kingscourt promise so much but still havent delivered on their potential.
In Intermediate my own club has gone backwards since winning an Intermediate(although this year we have stopped the rot), Ballyhaise have undoubted potential but can't seem to be able to hold their form. Drumgoon have some great footballers but they rarely seem to click. It reflects on our County side obviously as I feel that the standard of club football has gone back even further in the last 2-3 years.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on August 31, 2009, 03:27:05 PM
Quote from: Celt_Man on August 31, 2009, 02:58:05 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on August 31, 2009, 02:46:48 PM
well  ::), Just had opur yearly breakdown on Saturday,
No complaints though Lavey deserved it,we played nowhere near our potential.
i still think we have the players to win an intermediate,but where we go from here is anybodys guess.
Disasterous weekend for club as Juniors were beaten in semi final yesterday aswell.

What happened ye in the second half? You were winning at half time weren't ya? Obviously didn't get to look at any of your game.  I would imagine that Lavey are unbelievable red hot favourites for the whole thing now.
As for your juniors I can't imagine us giving them a bye in the quarter final helped you one bit
winning at half time,Lavey got the goal,and we missed some chances,and never pushed on,Lavey tagged on a few points and we were never coming back from that. Sickening stuff,with the effort the lads put in.
didnt stay to watch the Knockbride/Cootehill game as i was that sick.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on August 31, 2009, 03:37:08 PM
Quote from: boojangles on August 31, 2009, 03:19:04 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on August 31, 2009, 02:46:48 PM
well  ::), Just had opur yearly breakdown on Saturday,
No complaints though Lavey deserved it,we played nowhere near our potential.
i still think we have the players to win an intermediate,but where we go from here is anybodys guess.
Disasterous weekend for club as Juniors were beaten in semi final yesterday aswell.

Hard Luck BH Man,I know how you feel.Second half melt down killed your chances and it is something we were guilty of too.At HT in our game against Lavey I really felt that the game was their for us,but fair play to Lavey,They took their second chance with both hands.Lavey look to be the strongest left but who knows.Any of the 4 teams left could win it.

It really is a chronic problem in Cavan football with teams not being able to hold their form. Castlerahan,Ramor,Kingscourt,Ballyhaise,Drumalee I could go on. It seems that Ramor have gone back from last year where they looked to be so promising.Castlerahan seemed to be the team to challenge the Gaels but they bottled it when it mattered. Kingscourt promise so much but still havent delivered on their potential.
In Intermediate my own club has gone backwards since winning an Intermediate(although this year we have stopped the rot), Ballyhaise have undoubted potential but can't seem to be able to hold their form. Drumgoon have some great footballers but they rarely seem to click. It reflects on our County side obviously as I feel that the standard of club football has gone back even further in the last 2-3 years.
Very accurate observation there,All the teams you have mentioned are seriously underachieving,
Castlerahan were the team i thought could most likely topple the Gaels,and they blew it.
Ramor have undoubted ability,and turn it on in the league at times,but havent made a serious impact with this set of players at championship football yet.
Kingscourt,Terrific in the league,yet seemed somewhat stale and uninterested in the championship,maybe Division 1 was their One Goal this year.

Ourselves,bucketloads of ability,but always seem to have one bad day in the championship from quarter final stage on,and we dont seem to be able to play badly and win.
Drumalee-winners a few years ago,Unrecogniseable from that team,even though all the players bar One albeit major one are there.
Drumgoon are even worse than the previous two,as in recent memory,last 2/3 years,they havent even gotten to a semi final,which is shocking with the players they have at their disposal.
Cavan Football would be an awful lot stronger,with Better Ramor/Kingscourt/Castlerahan teams,
Look at Tyrone,numerous winners like Errigal,Carrickmore,Dromore,Killyclogher,Clonoe over the last 6 years.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on August 31, 2009, 03:47:34 PM
Been away for the weekend but what a lovely SURPRISE when I looked up Hoganstand.
But as posters have been saying, I thought Castlerahan would be a team that could challenge CG.

Looks liike I won't Denn play for a while as I have obviously bad luck for them.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on August 31, 2009, 03:55:32 PM
Quote from: Denn Forever on August 31, 2009, 03:47:34 PM
Been away for the weekend but what a lovely SURPRISE when I looked up Hoganstand.
But as posters have been saying, I thought Castlerahan would be a team that could challenge CG.

Looks liike I won't Denn play for a while as I have obviously bad luck for them.

Congrats on your win DF
I and the rest on this board never seen it coming.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on August 31, 2009, 03:57:50 PM
Ronan Kiernan was good too.

Its a pity its a bit too late for him, 30/31 but then Dooger was 33/34.

;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Its amazing how football can give you sh*t eatin grin.

I'd a feeling but I thought they might do it for badness and it was against the neighbours
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Drung on August 31, 2009, 04:55:35 PM
QuoteOurselves,bucketloads of ability,but always seem to have one bad day in the championship from quarter final stage on,and we dont seem to be able to play badly and win.

Decent team, yes. 'Bucketloads' of ability? No.

Lavey, Knockbride and Drumgoon are both as good, or better, than Ballyhaise in terms of talent. Drumalee are too.
Ballyhaise are one of four or five good teams at Intermediate, but don't try to let on that Ballyahise are the most talented but keep slipping up - that is just not true.
Ballyhaise have been hanging around Intermediate for years and have only made one final. Drumalee have won it, Drumgoon have won it, Knockbride won it - all three have since come back down, but Ballyhaise have been there all that time without going up!
Ballyhaise are coming good at underage though and will make the breakthrough some of these years in my opinion.
I'm surprised by how well Drung are doing - long may it continue! I hope it rains for three months and then we have Watters fit for the semi ;D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on August 31, 2009, 05:22:36 PM
Quote from: Drung on August 31, 2009, 04:55:35 PM
QuoteOurselves,bucketloads of ability,but always seem to have one bad day in the championship from quarter final stage on,and we dont seem to be able to play badly and win.

Decent team, yes. 'Bucketloads' of ability? No.

Lavey, Knockbride and Drumgoon are both as good, or better, than Ballyhaise in terms of talent. Drumalee are too.
Ballyhaise are one of four or five good teams at Intermediate, but don't try to let on that Ballyahise are the most talented but keep slipping up - that is just not true.
Ballyhaise have been hanging around Intermediate for years and have only made one final. Drumalee have won it, Drumgoon have won it, Knockbride won it - all three have since come back down, but Ballyhaise have been there all that time without going up!
Ballyhaise are coming good at underage though and will make the breakthrough some of these years in my opinion.
I'm surprised by how well Drung are doing - long may it continue! I hope it rains for three months and then we have Watters fit for the semi ;D

Did i say Ballyhaise had more ability than Drumalee//Drumgoon/Knockbride and Lavey???
No i didnt so stop insinuating that i said such things Drung.
We have a good intermediate team,which has reached Quarter/Semi Finals and a Final in the last few years and I believe there is even more talent in this club than outsiders  know,its just a case of showing it.
as for the intermediate,Im going to Tip Cootehill,i was impressed with them last year and i think they may do it this year.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on August 31, 2009, 05:46:11 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on August 31, 2009, 05:22:36 PM
Quote from: Drung on August 31, 2009, 04:55:35 PM
QuoteOurselves,bucketloads of ability,but always seem to have one bad day in the championship from quarter final stage on,and we dont seem to be able to play badly and win.

Decent team, yes. 'Bucketloads' of ability? No.

Lavey, Knockbride and Drumgoon are both as good, or better, than Ballyhaise in terms of talent. Drumalee are too.
Ballyhaise are one of four or five good teams at Intermediate, but don't try to let on that Ballyahise are the most talented but keep slipping up - that is just not true.
Ballyhaise have been hanging around Intermediate for years and have only made one final. Drumalee have won it, Drumgoon have won it, Knockbride won it - all three have since come back down, but Ballyhaise have been there all that time without going up!
Ballyhaise are coming good at underage though and will make the breakthrough some of these years in my opinion.
I'm surprised by how well Drung are doing - long may it continue! I hope it rains for three months and then we have Watters fit for the semi ;D

Did i say Ballyhaise had more ability than Drumalee//Drumgoon/Knockbride and Lavey???
No i didnt so stop insinuating that i said such things Drung.
We have a good intermediate team,which has reached Quarter/Semi Finals and a Final in the last few years and I believe there is even more talent in this club than outsiders  know,its just a case of showing it.
as for the intermediate,Im going to Tip Cootehill,i was impressed with them last year and i think they may do it this year.


Not at all, sure Drung have 3 county men against only our one... And with the momentum they have from last year and their impressive wins this year, all we will be doing is hoping to give them a good game.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on August 31, 2009, 06:49:45 PM
Quote from: Celt_Man on August 31, 2009, 05:46:11 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on August 31, 2009, 05:22:36 PM
Quote from: Drung on August 31, 2009, 04:55:35 PM
QuoteOurselves,bucketloads of ability,but always seem to have one bad day in the championship from quarter final stage on,and we dont seem to be able to play badly and win.

Decent team, yes. 'Bucketloads' of ability? No.

Lavey, Knockbride and Drumgoon are both as good, or better, than Ballyhaise in terms of talent. Drumalee are too.
Ballyhaise are one of four or five good teams at Intermediate, but don't try to let on that Ballyahise are the most talented but keep slipping up - that is just not true.
Ballyhaise have been hanging around Intermediate for years and have only made one final. Drumalee have won it, Drumgoon have won it, Knockbride won it - all three have since come back down, but Ballyhaise have been there all that time without going up!
Ballyhaise are coming good at underage though and will make the breakthrough some of these years in my opinion.
I'm surprised by how well Drung are doing - long may it continue! I hope it rains for three months and then we have Watters fit for the semi ;D

Did i say Ballyhaise had more ability than Drumalee//Drumgoon/Knockbride and Lavey???
No i didnt so stop insinuating that i said such things Drung.
We have a good intermediate team,which has reached Quarter/Semi Finals and a Final in the last few years and I believe there is even more talent in this club than outsiders  know,its just a case of showing it.
as for the intermediate,Im going to Tip Cootehill,i was impressed with them last year and i think they may do it this year.


Not at all, sure Drung have 3 county men against only our one... And with the momentum they have from last year and their impressive wins this year, all we will be doing is hoping to give them a good game.

Look it theres no point in even showing up CeltMan.BH Man has put the hex on yas now.You's are done for!!
A Final place is there for ya.I have seen Drung a few times now and while their attitude and work-rate is excellent I feel they are lacking in key areas.But they are very hard to play against,a bit like Denn at senior level and will fight tooth and nail for everything.Some of them have played in a final before so they know how to win a Semi but if I had to pick I think you's will do it. Somebody made the comment earlier that McKenna cleaned Galligan on Friday,I couldn't agree there.In the Aerial battle McKenna was on top but in open play I felt Galligan had the better.It was the 4th time I had seen Drung this year and I felt it was the best game Iv seen Ciaran have.There may be more to come from him.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on August 31, 2009, 10:03:42 PM
Some very odd comments in response to my post regarding Cahill mouthing. "No harm in pulling jersesys". Should we be bringing this into our training at underage? "A few raps of the ball". And don't forget that if you're caught doing it to appeal to through every loophole we can find.
Dear oh dear.  :'(
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on September 01, 2009, 12:10:20 AM
Quote from: Lawrence of Knockbride on August 31, 2009, 10:03:42 PM
Some very odd comments in response to my post regarding Cahill mouthing. "No harm in pulling jersesys". Should we be bringing this into our training at underage? "A few raps of the ball". And don't forget that if you're caught doing it to appeal to through every loophole we can find.
Dear oh dear.  :'(

Dear Oh Dear nothin,You have your head in the clouds Lawrence if you think any successful team gets away without using these tactics.Look at Kerry,Armagh,Tyrone etc. Probably the most cynical teams we have seen this decade but they all have All-Irelands to their name.Thats ALL that matters.We are too naive and too nice in Cavan. I play Gaelic Football to win,I don't play it to be a good sportsman. And if I am being truthful it is no harm in teaching U-16s and upwards a few tricks.they are going to need it at Senior level so the sooner they learn the better. As regards appeals I dunno who brought that up but your straying off the point.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on September 01, 2009, 01:28:09 AM
Quote from: Lawrence of Knockbride on August 31, 2009, 10:03:42 PM
Some very odd comments in response to my post regarding Cahill mouthing. "No harm in pulling jersesys". Should we be bringing this into our training at underage? "A few raps of the ball". And don't forget that if you're caught doing it to appeal to through every loophole we can find.
Dear oh dear.  :'(

Ah now Lawrence come down from your morale high-ground will you.  I don't want our 12 year olds been thought this stuff, of course not, but when we get to 18 or so it becomes a man's game.

You do what you gotta do to win - except for physically taking someone out of the game. That I completely disagree with but if you can't take been ruffled up, you need to get stronger mentally.
Well I know that is how i feel anyway. Again I ask, mean and win or nice and lose?

Or or two mean Cavan defenders thats strengths are actually defending would be great for Cavan team. You just need them in the panel as options.

If you wanna be nice and polite take up dancing or swimming or something.

I see no-one has mentioned Bailieborough for the Intermediate. In a weird way, I am glad we got Lavey.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on September 01, 2009, 08:37:45 AM
Boojangles & Put-It-Up, I agree that Cavan need to get meaner, tougher or whatever you want to call it. They need to be physically stronger and more determined. But what you're doing is calling how the game is played currently by the better teams and saying that it's right because they're successful. So if a team wins through fair means that make the hitting and dragging wrong?
Tougher mentally means focusing on the game in my book and being able to block out some p***k in your face for an hour. And I don't think I'm straying off the point by bringing in appeals-win at all costs was mentioned.
I could add some of the stuff that often sickens us gaels when watching soccer. Diving, the fake blood sub in rugby and so on.
My point is that just because it works doesn't make it right.
If referees, linesmen and umpires did their jobs better and lads were being punished consistently then I think the view would be that it wasn't worth the risk. Then what these great teams do?

Anyway, on a more pressing not why have I been relegated to a newbie all of a sudden?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on September 01, 2009, 09:40:23 AM

Look Lawrence, in an ideal world all footballers would be gentleman, everyone would play hard and fair, I would have a bit more money than I do right now and the standard of Cavan women would improve. But reality check ;D

It goes on and it happens, so do Cavan people want to keep playing nice attractive football (it could be argued we even do that!) and win sweet f**k all but know that they took  the high-road or do they want to roll up their sleeves and be wiling to do a bit of the dirty work. We dont need to be filthy but we need a few spoilers.
THe current team we have lot of nice footballers, but there is no real bite. No one to ggive the other team something to worry about defensively.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on September 01, 2009, 10:41:55 AM
Quote from: Lawrence of Knockbride on September 01, 2009, 08:37:45 AM
Boojangles & Put-It-Up, I agree that Cavan need to get meaner, tougher or whatever you want to call it. They need to be physically stronger and more determined. But what you're doing is calling how the game is played currently by the better teams and saying that it's right because they're successful. So if a team wins through fair means that make the hitting and dragging wrong?
Tougher mentally means focusing on the game in my book and being able to block out some p***k in your face for an hour. And I don't think I'm straying off the point by bringing in appeals-win at all costs was mentioned.
I could add some of the stuff that often sickens us gaels when watching soccer. Diving, the fake blood sub in rugby and so on.
My point is that just because it works doesn't make it right.
If referees, linesmen and umpires did their jobs better and lads were being punished consistently then I think the view would be that it wasn't worth the risk. Then what these great teams do?

Anyway, on a more pressing not why have I been relegated to a newbie all of a sudden?

I never said that such tactics are right,all I said is that they are successful. We would b a long time waiting for referees to properly stamp out all negative play so its either join in or be left behind.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on September 01, 2009, 11:04:05 AM
Boo J, just remembered that thing you posted about the form the CB sent out.

Jesus I could talk for hours on that!!!!!

One thing I am not too impressed with is the fact that Drung have been beaten twice this year and yet could still make a final. . . Nothing personal against them but it's Not really championship football is it.

One second-chance ok, fair enough - but a third one....

Maybe we should go back to the back-door system. I dunno really but would be very open to suggestions on this.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on September 01, 2009, 11:09:16 AM
Quote from: boojangles on September 01, 2009, 10:41:55 AM
Quote from: Lawrence of Knockbride on September 01, 2009, 08:37:45 AM
Boojangles & Put-It-Up, I agree that Cavan need to get meaner, tougher or whatever you want to call it. They need to be physically stronger and more determined. But what you're doing is calling how the game is played currently by the better teams and saying that it's right because they're successful. So if a team wins through fair means that make the hitting and dragging wrong?
Tougher mentally means focusing on the game in my book and being able to block out some p***k in your face for an hour. And I don't think I'm straying off the point by bringing in appeals-win at all costs was mentioned.
I could add some of the stuff that often sickens us gaels when watching soccer. Diving, the fake blood sub in rugby and so on.
My point is that just because it works doesn't make it right.
If referees, linesmen and umpires did their jobs better and lads were being punished consistently then I think the view would be that it wasn't worth the risk. Then what these great teams do?

Anyway, on a more pressing not why have I been relegated to a newbie all of a sudden?

I never said that such tactics are right,all I said is that they are successful. We would b a long time waiting for referees to properly stamp out all negative play so its either join in or be left behind.

Quote from: put-it-up on September 01, 2009, 09:40:23 AM

Look Lawrence, in an ideal world all footballers would be gentleman, everyone would play hard and fair, I would have a bit more money than I do right now and the standard of Cavan women would improve. But reality check ;D

It goes on and it happens, so do Cavan people want to keep playing nice attractive football (it could be argued we even do that!) and win sweet f**k all but know that they took  the high-road or do they want to roll up their sleeves and be wiling to do a bit of the dirty work. We dont need to be filthy but we need a few spoilers.
THe current team we have lot of nice footballers, but there is no real bite. No one to ggive the other team something to worry about defensively.
Chaps I believe we're in agreement. I think you may just have pushed your pont a little too aggressively.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on September 01, 2009, 11:18:57 AM
Perhaps I was a little to aggresive but the point had to be made.

I was alittle bit worried about you Lawrence, I thought you were wearing a dress when you posted that message saying 'Dear oh Dear'.

I thought your next post was going to contain 'oops a daisy'

Only messing with you boss ;)

Now you are on our side of the argument, do you know any tough defenders. Maybe they wont be pleasing on the eye or fantastic on the ball, but like who tackle aggresively and will do anything to stop their man getting the ball?

Jaysus I would say they are about as hard to find as a good midfielder!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on September 01, 2009, 12:05:44 PM
Quote from: put-it-up on September 01, 2009, 11:18:57 AM
Perhaps I was a little to aggresive but the point had to be made.

I was alittle bit worried about you Lawrence, I thought you were wearing a dress when you posted that message saying 'Dear oh Dear'.

I thought your next post was going to contain 'oops a daisy'

Only messing with you boss ;)

Now you are on our side of the argument, do you know any tough defenders. Maybe they wont be pleasing on the eye or fantastic on the ball, but like who tackle aggresively and will do anything to stop their man getting the ball?

Jaysus I would say they are about as hard to find as a good midfielder!
Oh I do despair :D
Corner-backs..........I always liked the look of Kilian Reilly for Killeshandra. Not overly aggressive but lightning fast. Also that McPhilips boy for Denn had a good game the other evening. We need a couple badly to put the pressure on Hannon to get him back to his best.
Anyway, back to the closet............I mean work.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Drung on September 01, 2009, 04:59:04 PM
Lacken won the Intermediate in 2004 and lost three games.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on September 01, 2009, 08:12:42 PM
Quote from: Drung on September 01, 2009, 04:59:04 PM
Lacken won the Intermediate in 2004 and lost three games.

Every team left in the Intermediate has been beaten this year.Drumgoon bet BBoro,Knockbride bet Cootehill,Drumalee beat Lavey and Bailieboro beat Drung twice.But thats the format that has been chosen.I think a team deserves a 2nd chance after been beaten,but after that its hard to call it Championship.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Mr. Pain on September 03, 2009, 11:21:44 AM
Boojangles, shut your pie hole. Nah, just kidding. Some big games this weekend. Any predictions?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on September 03, 2009, 12:40:48 PM
I see Mr. Pain & Drung have been relegated to Newbies too. Mr. Moderator-can't you do something? I predict some Pain if you don't. 8)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on September 03, 2009, 12:51:16 PM
Quote from: Mr. Pain on September 03, 2009, 11:21:44 AM
Boojangles, shut your pie hole. Nah, just kidding. Some big games this weekend. Any predictions?

Mr Pain your mothers a man-nah just kidding. Mullahoran,Gowna,Gaels.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Mr. Pain on September 03, 2009, 05:12:11 PM
Brave. Stupid.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on September 03, 2009, 05:51:52 PM
Quote from: Mr. Pain on September 03, 2009, 05:12:11 PM
Brave. Stupid.

:-*
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on September 03, 2009, 08:42:51 PM
Wish for the day?

Redhills would beat CG.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on September 04, 2009, 12:21:30 PM
Quote from: boojangles on September 01, 2009, 08:12:42 PM
Quote from: Drung on September 01, 2009, 04:59:04 PM
Lacken won the Intermediate in 2004 and lost three games.

Every team left in the Intermediate has been beaten this year.Drumgoon bet BBoro,Knockbride bet Cootehill,Drumalee beat Lavey and Bailieboro beat Drung twice.But thats the format that has been chosen.I think a team deserves a 2nd chance after been beaten,but after that its hard to call it Championship.

I remember 2004 quite well, we were top of one group of seven teams with 2 draws and 4 wins and Lacken were fourth in the other group - got to the first knock stages (quarter final) and we were turfed out!! Same with Ballinagh top of the other group, and Lavey fourth in ours knocked them out in quarters.  I suppose looking back on it you are undefeated in 6 games in the championship and still get knocked out at the quarter final stage is a bit too much.

But on the other hand, what about if it was straight knockout, how many teams would be out of the championship from the wkend of 13/14th June - thats a very long time ago and odds are those same teams wouldn't be still training for the last 2 games of the league so football in Cavan in general wouldn't benefit from a straight knock out.

So the format we have isn't perfect but I think it's the best way of doing it...
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Mr. Pain on September 04, 2009, 04:37:10 PM
Not a bad point Celt Man. But you could say Lacken and Lavey just won when they really had to and the other teams bottled it. Nevertheless, excellent rant in Mr. Pain's eyes!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on September 04, 2009, 04:48:34 PM
Fair point Celt Man, i never thought of it from that point of view. I just completely disagree with a team losing twice or more and still being in with a chance of winning a championship.

Would keep teams from the same group away from each other as well. There is no need for seeding or anything, but just keep teams from the same group away from one another at the QF stage.

See Monaghan have added Grimley to their backroom team. That is Banty, McElkennon and Grimley. A lot of knowledge and experience there. Cavan could do with sorting a few things out soon enough!



Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Babe Ruth 47 on September 04, 2009, 05:25:26 PM
Mc Elkennon as manager, Banty as trainer and Grimley as physio
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on September 04, 2009, 05:30:23 PM
Quote from: Babe Ruth 47 on September 04, 2009, 05:25:26 PM
Mc Elkennon as manager, Banty as trainer and Grimley as physio

that is what would happen over here alright ;D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on September 04, 2009, 06:20:58 PM
Quote from: Mr. Pain on September 04, 2009, 04:37:10 PM
Not a bad point Celt Man. But you could say Lacken and Lavey just won when they really had to and the other teams bottled it. Nevertheless, excellent rant in Mr. Pain's eyes!

Oh I agree Lacken played well that day against us and we started to change things that had served us well up to that point which back fired big time.  But Lacken won it out that year and you don't win a championship without playing well so fair play to them.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on September 04, 2009, 08:07:29 PM
Quote from: Babe Ruth 47 on September 04, 2009, 05:25:26 PM
Mc Elkennon as manager, Banty as trainer and Grimley as physio

I suppose the only one we wouldn't know much about is Banty!

Monaghan now have some of our old management team.  If they do well, what does it say about us?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: RednBlack on September 04, 2009, 10:52:34 PM
Thoughts on the fixtures this weekend?

Saturday, 05th September 2009 @ 2pm

Hotel Kilmore Senior Relegation Match Replay

Ballinagh v Kingscourt

Venue:  Lavey GAA Grounds, New Inns

Referee:  Mickey Lee

Linesmen:  Sean Smith & Pat Clarke

* Extra time in the event of a draw
Saturday, 05th September 2009 @ 6pm

Hotel Kilmore Senior Championship Quarter Final

Redhills v Cavan Gaels

Venue:  Kingspan Breffni Park

Referee: Raymond Kelly

Linesmen:  Seamus O'Connor & Margaret Farrelly

Belturbet v Mullahoran (Game at 7.30pm)

Venue:  Kingspan Breffni Park

Referee: Joe McQuillan

Linesmen: John Cassidy & Pat Clarke

Sunday, 06th September 2009 @ 1pm

Hotel Kilmore Senior Relegation Match Replay

Lacken v Crosserlough

Venue:  Athletic Grounds, Crubany

Referee:  Jimmy Galligan - Killygarry

Linesmen:  Damien Brady & Packie Smith

* Extra time in the event of a draw




Sunday, 06th September 2009 @ 7pm

Hotel Kilmore Senior Championship Quarter Final

Gowna v Killygarry

Venue:  Kingspan Breffni Park

Referee: Ollie Donohoe

Linesmen:  Martin Brady Ballinagh & Brendan Sweeney

Sunday, 06th September 2009 @ 5.45pm

Hotel Kilmore Junior D Championship Semi Finals

Killinkere v Butlersbridge

Venue:  St Felim's Park, Drumalee

Referee:  Chris McCaffrey
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: AFS on September 05, 2009, 04:58:43 AM
http://www.facebook.com/johnny.gaahero

This might be old news to yous, but if you have a facebook account its worth checking out. Spoof page of 'your typical Cavan GAA player. Mediocre to the core.' Some of its fairly funny, even without getting half of the Cavan references.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on September 05, 2009, 05:20:03 PM
Quote from: RednBlack on September 05, 2009, 04:17:41 PM
Kingscourt win after extra time and Gaynor first in showers.

Good job I'm sitting when I read that, what a shock!  Sounds like a good game, would have went if I had of copped on it was at 2.   heading to breffni this evening, hopefully get 2 good games.  might be the only time the Gaels might get caught.... slim chance
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on September 05, 2009, 09:26:54 PM
Anyone else in Breffni this evening?

The evenings are fair drawing in. 
And isn't amazing how much light is given by the Floodlights! Like day!

Well you try to say anything good about the fare displayed this evening.  I was at the other end of the pitch and didn't see Danny's box.

Another great performance by Eddie.  Won the battle of the Reillys but will it be all for nought?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on September 05, 2009, 10:07:07 PM
Quote from: RednBlack on September 05, 2009, 09:56:35 PM
lucky you were at the other end as Eddie was poxed to stay on for his thump under the umpires eyes. Both games were pretty poor football although I did enjoy Dermot Sheridan bring four Belturbet men for a ride up the park and then hitting the fifth man a shoulder that shook the stand. He is a strong boy. Fitzpatrick in 11 gave Smith a torrid time and found it hard to believe that Canavan didn't make a switch. Eddie produced a good performance but his temperament makes him a massive liability. Michael Brady at 10 had a good game

Would love to know what set Shields and Gunner off. Always looks bad when two from the same team go swinging at each other.

What missed that altogether???
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on September 05, 2009, 10:07:33 PM
Didnt make it to Breffni but was at the Kingscourt game.

Quite a good one to be honest - although I wasnt particularly impressed with either side. Ballinagh are really struggling at the minute and good oul Gaynor...ah somethings will never change!

Barry Reilly showed a bit of class in extra time and hit two serious points to win it for Kingscourt.

Niall McDermott impressed early on but faded out of it.

So the Mullahoran boys were having a kafuffle. I suppose he wouldnt be your team-mate if he didn't bate ya out there!!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on September 05, 2009, 10:53:45 PM
Quote from: RednBlack on September 05, 2009, 10:41:00 PM
anyone else think McQuillan was poor tonight. He missed a blatant clean pick of the deck right under his nose and two passes later Mullahoran had the ball in the net. Was impressed with Ray Kelly in the first game. Handled it firmly and dealt out the cards no matter who was due them and did it in a fast manner. Looking at the players with him at the end he definitely earned their respect. Was also good to see a man out there who could keep up with the play.

Agree with putitup......Reilly ripped over two cracking points to seal the game. Mickey Lee handled it well aside from all the abuse hurled at him from the Ballinagh camp on the grassy slope side!!!!!! Heard another neutral pass the comment that if he lived there he wouldnt let his kids play ball with them. I know thats a big generalisation and would know a few very good lads involved but God they also have a few seriously loose nutters in tow.

McQuillan was bad, Paul Brady touched the ball clean on the ground then as you said 10 sec later the ball was in the net. Also Eddie at one point was an inch from the linesman and was hurling abuse at him which is a disgrace to see whatever the decision was.

Ray Kelly was a joke, can't believe you think he done well. He played no advantage most of the time - at one point with 2 points in it, Gumley scored a great point but Kelly pulled it back for a earlier foul and Redhills missed the free, Gaels went up and score - 3 down instead of one point. Other times he blew the whistle and most of the people around me waited to see what way the arm was going to point.  As well it was a disgrace when after the final whistle to shook hands and hugged several of the Cavan Gaels players which a neutral official should never do.. it was terrible to see.  He actually went out of the way to do it too
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on September 05, 2009, 11:06:02 PM
They are a bit frustrating to listen to alright.

Funny enough though, any of the players I know are grand lads. A couple of the supporters are bonkers though. Every club has at least one nut though do they not? I know we have a handful of them!!!

Anyone found me a tigerish cornerback yet for the county.

Or a big midfielder or a centre forward while were at it?

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on September 05, 2009, 11:22:51 PM
Quote from: put-it-up on September 05, 2009, 11:06:02 PM
They are a bit frustrating to listen to alright.

Funny enough though, any of the players I know are grand lads. A couple of the supporters are bonkers though. Every club has at least one nut though do they not? I know we have a handful of them!!!

Anyone found me a tigerish cornerback yet for the county.

Or a big midfielder or a centre forward while were at it?

Not sure how he would fare in a county set up but I've been very impressed with Eoin McGuigan from Belturbet in mid field in the last two games.  A big man and he has a serious stride which covers a lot of ground, from what I've seen he uses the ball very well too. Any man know what age he is?

Also Brendan Fitzpatrick has to be called in....a class act, can use either foot and carries the ball very well too.  Did I hear right that he wouldn't go into the Under 21 set up this year?  Or is he the right age for that?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on September 06, 2009, 02:19:08 PM
How have Eoin and Darren Smith been gettin on? Two full-backs i have a lot of time for.

Yeah Bud Fitz was involved in the earlier trial games i think but didn't look in great shape at the time. I hear he is flying now though.
He is elegible for u21 this year as well.

Anyone heard anything about the county set-up with regards to backroom teams and the u21 situation?!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on September 06, 2009, 09:26:59 PM
Killygarry won by 4 points...  13  to 9, Killygarry deserved it but GOwna were very unhappy with Ollie Donohue the ref.  He let some blatant fouls on Pierson go unpunished at a vital stage about 3 I counted anyway which if converted might have had a bif effect on the game.  McCabe made his feelings known to the ref after the final whistle and when he said his bit Morris put in his penny's worth!!! The whole thing looked to be gettin out of control as the ref went down the tunnel and I didnt see what happened after that but there was enough happening to draw the crowd's attention  to the tunnel.... mightn;t be the last we hear about that

Semi final draw was at half time too...
Mullahorn v Denn
Gaels v Killygarry

Mullahorn v Denn will be a cracker in the physical stakes, fans of lovely free flowing football stay away but I reckon it will be an enjoyable tough championship encounter
as for the other game, would love to see Killygarry win but you couldn't bet against that other crowd!!!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on September 06, 2009, 09:56:54 PM
Quote from: RednBlack on September 06, 2009, 09:35:29 PM
No mention of the abuse dished about by Gowna!!! Get with it. They were a disgrace and how they had 15 on at end was amazing and that was coming from Gowna mouths!! Morris clocked ref in tunnel so will be interesting to see where that one goes. Thought our lads keot their discipline very well in the face of some real BS. Ted never once raised a hand on Pierson compared to Hartin on Reilly. Sure he marked him damn tight and gave some frees away but Pierson also went down crying way too easy and Brady Jr was a lucky boy to stay on for a few elbows. As was their numbers 3, 4 and 7.

Niall Madden was the pick of what was on show there tonight. Thought he had a very good game.

Ahh yea... Gowna were very physical this evening but that was to be expected, no team should stand back and admire the opposition in the championship (by the way I;m not condoning anything over the top)
You can't say Ted didn't foul when compare to etc etc... he did foul Pierson but didn't get penalised and I suppose that's what counts... Yea a few of the Gowna boys were lucky to stay on the field but not through rough play, more so opening their mouths to the man in the middle..

You sure about Morris clocking the ref???  Bloody Ballinagh rubbing off on him  :P ;D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on September 06, 2009, 10:18:56 PM
Will Sean Johnson be still away for the semi? If so, I could see them beating CG.

How good would a Denn vs Killygarry final be?

As Celt man says, the Denn vs Mullaghoran semi will not be one for the purists but should be a battle!  Tomas Corr on Eddie?  Eddie is the lynchpin of the Mullaghoran team and with Danny gone, how many scoring forwards do Mullaghoran have?

Did we see Sheridan's best position i.e. wing back/half back on Saturday night?  The hunt for a dedicated/specialist is more pressing when we see what Sheridan can do outfield. And his shoulder in the middle of the park?  People around me were saying he should have been pulled up for charging.  Valid?

The number 11 for Belturbet was good but they seemed to persist in trying to give the ball to Jason.  Maybe if they'd given it to the 11, it would have been closer.

Is there extra time if it is a draw?

Now, how do we beat Mullaghoran?  Are you pondering what I'm pondering?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: RednBlack on September 08, 2009, 10:44:20 AM
 
Saturday, 12th September 2009 @ 5.00pm
Hotel Kilmore Junior D Championship Semi Finals
Killygarry v Mountnugent
Venue:  Dr Plunkett Park, Kilnaleck
Referee:  Tony Gregory

Saturday, 12th September 2009 @ 5.00pm
Cavan Waste Disposal A.C.F.L. Division 4 Play Off
Mullahoran v Kingscourt
Venue:  Ramor United Park, Virginia
Referee: Raymond Tynan
•   Extra time in the event of a draw

Saturday, 12th September 2009 @ 6pm
Hotel Kilmore Junior Championship Semi Final
Swanlinbar v Cornafean
Venue:  Kingspan Breffni Park
Referee:  Jim Hyland
Linesmen:  Peter Fahy & Tony Gregory
04th Official:  Packie Smith

Saturday, 12th September 2009 @ 7.30pm
Hotel Kilmore Intermediate Championship Semi Final
Lavey v Bailieboro
Venue:  Kingspan Breffni Park
Referee:  Martin Sexton
Linesmen:  Noel Mooney & Ronan Bannon
04th Official:  Philip Devine

Sunday, 13th September 2009 @ 2pm
Hotel Kilmore Junior Championship Semi Final
Butlersbridge v Cavan Gaels
Venue:  Kingspan Breffni Park
Referee:  Oliver O'Reilly
Linesmen:  Kieran McCarville & Gavin Smith
04th Official:  James Clarke

Sunday, 13th September 2009 @ 3.30pm
Hotel Kilmore Intermediate Championship Semi Finals
Drung v Cootehill
Venue:  Kingspan Breffni Park
Referee:  Brian Crowe
Linesmen:  Jim Giblin & John Pat Martin
04th Official:  Martin Brady Ballinagh

Sunday, 13th September 2009 @ 5.30pm
A.C.F.L. Division 5 Semi Finals
Lavey v Ballyhaise
Venue:  Boyle Park, Drumgoon
Referee:  James Clarke
Lacken v Killinkere
Venue:  St Matthews Park, Crosskeys
Referee:  Thomas Doonan


Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: RednBlack on September 08, 2009, 10:45:37 AM
Wednesday, 16th September 2009 @ 8pm
Hotel Kilmore Junior C Final
Bailieborough v Killinkere
Venue:  O'Raghallaigh Park, Kingscourt
Referee:  Margaret Farrelly
Linesman:  Donal Reilly & Ollie Donohoe

Saturday, 19th September 2009 @ 4pm
Hotel Kilmore Senior Championship Relegation Play Off
Cuchulainn v Ballinagh
Venue:  PJ Duke Park, Stradone
Referee:  Martin Sexton
Linesmen:  Philip Devine & Margaret Farrelly

Saturday, 19th September 2009 @ 4.00pm
Philip Miney Meats Ltd A.C.F.L. Division 6 Round 14
Butlersbridge v Arva
Referee:  Thomas Doonan
Ballymachugh v Killinkere
Referee:  Tony McDonald
Drung v Killeshandra
Referee:  Harry Conaty
Swanlinbar v Cornafean
Referee:  John Cassidy
Shannon Gaels v Mullahoran
Referee:  Stephen McKiernan

Saturday, 19th September 2009
Hotel Kilmore Senior Championship Semi Final
Denn v Mullahoran (Game at 6pm)
Venue:  Kingspan Breffni Park
Referee:  Michael Lee
Linesmen:  Jim Giblin & Padraig Kelleher
04th Official:  Raymond Kelly


Killygarry v Cavan Gaels (Game at 7.30pm)
Venue:  Kingspan Breffni Park
Referee:  Jimmy Galligan - Lacken
Linesmen:  Raymond Tynan & John Smith
04th Official:  Seamus O'Connor
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on September 10, 2009, 10:19:31 AM
What are the standout games from this weekend in the Championships?  Or will the relegation playoffs be better?

I hope Breffni Park will be able to cope with all the games that will be played there over the next two weekends.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Drung on September 10, 2009, 01:02:36 PM
Why would it not?
Giving good weather this weekend anyway, for what that's worth. :-[
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on September 11, 2009, 12:29:36 PM
Quote from: Drung on September 10, 2009, 01:02:36 PM
Why would it not?Giving good weather this weekend anyway, for what that's worth. :-[

Because it hasnt been in the best shape of late.Underage finals were cancelled on it 2 weeks ago.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on September 11, 2009, 01:19:53 PM
I see the CB have asked Ciaran Brady about taking over the u21 job!

Someone in there must have read my 200 posts about that subject!!!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: PhilsJemmysField on September 11, 2009, 02:24:31 PM
Intermediate semi final Lavey vs BBoro game is off due to the death of the Lavey goalkeeper's Mum RIP
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on September 11, 2009, 04:33:07 PM
Quote from: PhilsJemmysField on September 11, 2009, 02:24:31 PM
Intermediate semi final Lavey vs BBoro game is off due to the death of the Lavey goalkeeper's Mum RIP
Thanks for that.
Did someone mention a few pages back that Gaynor was the first in the showers last week meaning that he was sent off? I heard that it wasn't true?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on September 11, 2009, 06:59:16 PM
I was at the game! He got his marching orders
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on September 11, 2009, 11:44:22 PM
Had the annual trip to the homeplace last weekend Put it Up. Very impressive turnout at training  in the rain on Sunday morning, imagine you were in there somewhere. Got approached by Francis, think he suspected me of being a Lavey spy!!! Had to explain myself pronto. very impressed from a brief chat with him, he was always a good club man. Few hardy lumps of lads togged out, if you were concentrating on the County setup you'd swear those sorts were extinct around Cavan.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: twotwocharlie on September 12, 2009, 09:56:40 AM
Good morning

just on this thread to ask if anyone has a spare ticket or two for the All Ireland.

we have followed the minors all year and now the big one has come along tickets are very scarce.

would be gratefull for a pm if anyone can help

many thanks
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on September 12, 2009, 03:05:26 PM
Quote from: put-it-up on September 11, 2009, 06:59:16 PM
I was at the game! He got his marching orders
Fair enough. I was told otherwise.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on September 12, 2009, 08:13:34 PM
Quote from: Lawrence of Knockbride on September 12, 2009, 03:05:26 PM
Quote from: put-it-up on September 11, 2009, 06:59:16 PM
I was at the game! He got his marching orders
Fair enough. I was told otherwise.

I believe it was after the game he got the red. Could be mis-informed.
Swad beat the Reds 10-9 this evening.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on September 12, 2009, 09:39:21 PM
Quote from: boojangles on September 12, 2009, 08:13:34 PM
Quote from: Lawrence of Knockbride on September 12, 2009, 03:05:26 PM
Quote from: put-it-up on September 11, 2009, 06:59:16 PM
I was at the game! He got his marching orders
Fair enough. I was told otherwise.

I believe it was after the game he got the red. Could be mis-informed.
Swad beat the Reds 10-9 this evening.
Were you at the game this evening Boojangles? Anything to report?
Did anyone hear the craic with Finbar Jordan and the saga of his appendix operation?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on September 12, 2009, 10:36:35 PM
Quote from: Lawrence of Knockbride on September 12, 2009, 09:39:21 PM
Quote from: boojangles on September 12, 2009, 08:13:34 PM
Quote from: Lawrence of Knockbride on September 12, 2009, 03:05:26 PM
Quote from: put-it-up on September 11, 2009, 06:59:16 PM
I was at the game! He got his marching orders
Fair enough. I was told otherwise.

I believe it was after the game he got the red. Could be mis-informed.
Swad beat the Reds 10-9 this evening.
Were you at the game this evening Boojangles? Anything to report?
Did anyone hear the craic with Finbar Jordan and the saga of his appendix operation?

No wasnt at the game Lawrence,like most games all year I hear it was poor fare.Very tight throughout.
Heard that a good while ago about Finbar.Some joke alright.The lad could have died,he was sent away from the hospital twice saying it was nothing serious.He won't play for a while anyway,hear he has lost serious weight.It would be an awful shame if he missed an Intermediate Championship win.He has been one of their main men for the last few years.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on September 13, 2009, 06:31:53 PM
Any chance you might tell us the scores lads? ;D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on September 13, 2009, 06:39:57 PM
Ah Mulvey. The clown of Cavan football. He'll hardly learn at this stage lads.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: RednBlack on September 13, 2009, 07:15:54 PM
Friday, 18th September 2009 @ 8.15pm
Hotel Kilmore Intermediate Championship Semi Final

Lavey v Bailieboro

Venue:  Kingspan Breffni Park
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: space rabbit on September 13, 2009, 07:29:31 PM
Quote from: Lawrence of Knockbride on September 13, 2009, 06:39:57 PM
Ah Mulvey. The clown of Cavan football. He'll hardly learn at this stage lads.

Id like to see you say that to him face to face.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on September 13, 2009, 07:39:31 PM
Quote from: RednBlack on September 13, 2009, 06:34:37 PM
Quote from: REDCOL on September 13, 2009, 06:11:53 PM
Mulvey made great catches, maybe guilty of trying to do too much on his own. But still is the only midfielder I have seen in Cavan capable of competing in the air, even if he is not the brightest on the ball.
what did you make of his Ronaldo impression. Making one or two catches and then dying on his feet for most of the game. Sorry don't agree. As a bridge man said beside us "he looks like he has two bags of cement shoved down his shorts as an excuse for an arse". See how many catches are made next Sunday versus a midfielder who can run all day and play ball.

Who is this man you speak of???

The Gaels should feel rightly aggrieved in fairness.While they didnt deserve to win,they definitely deserved a penalty or at least a 13m free.He didnt even give a 45,even though it came straight of a Bridge man.No wonder football is the way it is.That was probably revenge for the Mullahoran- Ballinagh match a few weeks back.
Congrats to Celt Man,by far the better team. Will take stopping in the Final. Colm Smith has great potential,a sweet left foot and has got very strong on the ball. Still very greedy but that could be worked on.
JohnMcCutcheon is the type of footballer that we don't have near enough of in Cavan.Rarely puts a foot wrong,never gives the ball away,works tirelessly for the team and does it all with the minimum of fuss.A credit to himself.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on September 13, 2009, 07:49:15 PM
Quote from: space rabbit on September 13, 2009, 07:29:31 PM
Quote from: Lawrence of Knockbride on September 13, 2009, 06:39:57 PM
Ah Mulvey. The clown of Cavan football. He'll hardly learn at this stage lads.

Id like to see you say that to him face to face.
Why?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on September 13, 2009, 07:55:34 PM
Quote from: space rabbit on September 13, 2009, 07:29:31 PM
Quote from: Lawrence of Knockbride on September 13, 2009, 06:39:57 PM
Ah Mulvey. The clown of Cavan football. He'll hardly learn at this stage lads.

Id like to see you say that to him face to face.

Hav to agree Lawrence,no need for the personal abuse. Off the field Lorcan Mulvey is 100%. As regards Geraoid McKiernan,Im not the biggest fan of Mulvey but he would make bits of McKiernan.Far too much power.McKiernan from what I have seen has alot to learn.And a lot of muscle to gain.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: space rabbit on September 13, 2009, 07:59:00 PM
Quote from: Lawrence of Knockbride on September 13, 2009, 07:49:15 PM
Quote from: space rabbit on September 13, 2009, 07:29:31 PM
Quote from: Lawrence of Knockbride on September 13, 2009, 06:39:57 PM
Ah Mulvey. The clown of Cavan football. He'll hardly learn at this stage lads.

Id like to see you say that to him face to face.
Why?

Easy to say hiding behind a computer.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on September 13, 2009, 07:59:17 PM
Quote from: boojangles on September 13, 2009, 07:55:34 PM
Quote from: space rabbit on September 13, 2009, 07:29:31 PM
Quote from: Lawrence of Knockbride on September 13, 2009, 06:39:57 PM
Ah Mulvey. The clown of Cavan football. He'll hardly learn at this stage lads.

Id like to see you say that to him face to face.

Hav to agree Lawrence,no need for the personal abuse. Off the field Lorcan Mulvey is 100%. As regards Geraoid McKiernan,Im not the biggest fan of Mulvey but he would make bits of McKiernan.Far too much power.McKiernan from what I have seen has alot to learn.And a lot of muscle to gain.
Boojangles, I don't know Mulvey off the field that's why I called him the clown of Cavan FOOTBALL. From diving, to signalling to the crowd to hitting the hard man shoulder only to disappear for the rest of the game, the lad is a clown, in my opinion, when it comes to playing the game.
And as for saying it to his face I have talked to him about his performances and guess what? He made a big joke about it being a laugh.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on September 13, 2009, 08:00:09 PM
See my repy Space Rabbit. Give us your opinion on him there.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: space rabbit on September 13, 2009, 08:05:58 PM
Quote from: Lawrence of Knockbride on September 13, 2009, 08:00:09 PM
See my repy Space Rabbit. Give us your opinion on him there.

Its not as bad when explained like that.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on September 13, 2009, 08:09:26 PM
Quote from: space rabbit on September 13, 2009, 08:05:58 PM
Quote from: Lawrence of Knockbride on September 13, 2009, 08:00:09 PM
See my repy Space Rabbit. Give us your opinion on him there.

Its not as bad when explained like that.
Why thank you. ;D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: space rabbit on September 13, 2009, 08:12:32 PM
Quote from: boojangles on September 13, 2009, 07:39:31 PM
Quote from: RednBlack on September 13, 2009, 06:34:37 PM
Quote from: REDCOL on September 13, 2009, 06:11:53 PM
Mulvey made great catches, maybe guilty of trying to do too much on his own. But still is the only midfielder I have seen in Cavan capable of competing in the air, even if he is not the brightest on the ball.
what did you make of his Ronaldo impression. Making one or two catches and then dying on his feet for most of the game. Sorry don't agree. As a bridge man said beside us "he looks like he has two bags of cement shoved down his shorts as an excuse for an arse". See how many catches are made next Sunday versus a midfielder who can run all day and play ball.

Who is this man you speak of???

The Gaels should feel rightly aggrieved in fairness.While they didnt deserve to win,they definitely deserved a penalty or at least a 13m free.He didnt even give a 45,even though it came straight of a Bridge man.No wonder football is the way it is.That was probably revenge for the Mullahoran- Ballinagh match a few weeks back.
Congrats to Celt Man,by far the better team. Will take stopping in the Final. Colm Smith has great potential,a sweet left foot and has got very strong on the ball. Still very greedy but that could be worked on.
JohnMcCutcheon is the type of footballer that we don't have near enough of in Cavan.Rarely puts a foot wrong,never gives the ball away,works tirelessly for the team and does it all with the minimum of fuss.A credit to himself.

He is very left footed, that could be his down fall at a higher level.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: space rabbit on September 14, 2009, 09:40:08 AM
Quote from: RednBlack on September 14, 2009, 09:21:46 AM
Observation: when a player is naturally left footed people tend to notice it much more and comment on their limitations with their right foot. Its rare to hear similar comments the other way - "He is so right sided" Its a problem throughout the county that we don't have enough guys balanced on both feet. 

All championship season there appears to be lots of guys showing potential in the forward line. Is this as case of a lack of high standard backs?

Any backs standing out for ye guys and have you seen any new options for midfield?

In goals I have liked the look of Gumley from the Bridge. Again yesterday I thought James just kept bombing ball down the middle with little variation.

Gumley looks like a good keeper, did he have a spell with a soccer team in England?  Drung only looked to Galligan for kickouts and he was always down the middle so thats where he sent it. 
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: space rabbit on September 14, 2009, 11:14:15 AM
Quote from: RednBlack on September 14, 2009, 10:54:11 AM
Should have welcomed you to the board Space Rabbit. You will enjoy it. Lots of good honest opinions in here with a maturity level missing on other message boards!!!  ;D Well at least I don't think there any under 14 development squad posters on here!!!!!  :o

Thanks rednblack.  Im not a Cavan man but have been living here for a long time.  Big follower of Cavan football and would go to most county games and to the championship games in the park at the weekends.  Enjoyed the games yesterday even though the quality was poor enough, it was great to be out in the good weather.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on September 14, 2009, 02:27:26 PM
Quote from: space rabbit on September 14, 2009, 11:14:15 AM
Quote from: RednBlack on September 14, 2009, 10:54:11 AM
Should have welcomed you to the board Space Rabbit. You will enjoy it. Lots of good honest opinions in here with a maturity level missing on other message boards!!!  ;D Well at least I don't think there any under 14 development squad posters on here!!!!!  :o

Thanks rednblack.  Im not a Cavan man but have been living here for a long time.  Big follower of Cavan football and would go to most county games and to the championship games in the park at the weekends.  Enjoyed the games yesterday even though the quality was poor enough, it was great to be out in the good weather.

Welcome Space Rabbitt.Good to have an outsiders view.Do ya mind me asking what county you hail from?
Maybe Im getting negative in my old age but I really fear for Cavan football looking at the standard of club football in the county this summer.It has been desperate to be blunt.I have seen some lads playing Senior Championship football who in most other counties wouldn't make a Junior team. The standard of the execution of the basic skills of the game is very poor.

Keith Gumley is a good goalkeeper,looked good yesterday.He actually played one Senior game in goals in the McKenna cup back in 2005 when he was U-21.
I think Paddy Galligan deserves his chance at Senior Inter-County level.He may not be as physically imposing as Miller but he is worth working on.Would you agree RedNBlack?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: space rabbit on September 14, 2009, 02:45:15 PM
Quote from: boojangles on September 14, 2009, 02:27:26 PM
Quote from: space rabbit on September 14, 2009, 11:14:15 AM
Quote from: RednBlack on September 14, 2009, 10:54:11 AM
Should have welcomed you to the board Space Rabbit. You will enjoy it. Lots of good honest opinions in here with a maturity level missing on other message boards!!!  ;D Well at least I don't think there any under 14 development squad posters on here!!!!!  :o

Thanks rednblack.  Im not a Cavan man but have been living here for a long time.  Big follower of Cavan football and would go to most county games and to the championship games in the park at the weekends.  Enjoyed the games yesterday even though the quality was poor enough, it was great to be out in the good weather.

Welcome Space Rabbitt.Good to have an outsiders view.Do ya mind me asking what county you hail from?
Maybe Im getting negative in my old age but I really fear for Cavan football looking at the standard of club football in the county this summer.It has been desperate to be blunt.I have seen some lads playing Senior Championship football who in most other counties wouldn't make a Junior team. The standard of the execution of the basic skills of the game is very poor.

Keith Gumley is a good goalkeeper,looked good yesterday.He actually played one Senior game in goals in the McKenna cup back in 2005 when he was U-21.
I think Paddy Galligan deserves his chance at Senior Inter-County level.He may not be as physically imposing as Miller but he is worth working on.Would you agree RedNBlack?

Im from Wexford boojanges.   
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on September 14, 2009, 03:43:17 PM
Well lads, was away over the weekend. Decided to avail of the sunshine after the Bboro game was called off ;D ;D ;D

On behalf of the entire club however, can I extend my sympathies to the Lavey goalkeeper and anybody else connected with the family.

Hopefully, we get a good competitive game on Friday.

Heard the Cootehill result and have to say - fair play to them. Seen them play in the groups and was not impressed but clearly they have improved a lot. Where was McCutcheon playing?

Couldnt agree with your more R'nB with regards to the corner back situation. It something I have highlighted a good bit.

Also the gk situation is fairly open as well. After James, there would be a handful of keepers in and around the same ability levels who deserve a shot.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BigMac on September 14, 2009, 10:58:55 PM
Its very sad what happened to the young Lavey gaolies mother. I know him and his brothers a bit and its all very sad.
However I dont really know the procedure here but I cant imagine Conor will be playing on friday against Baileboro, and with Finbar Jordan and Sean Maguire missing aswel, Lavey would be very depleted. Baileborough would probably be favourites now. Maybe even for outright honours. Ive also heard rumours that Kevin Brady has missed a few training sessions with a bit of an injury. Im sure he will play some part but as I say these are only rumours.
Im also looking forward to seeing Killygarry, I think they will put it up to the gaels as long as they dont go in to the game giving too much respect to the opposition. If they give them too much respect and dont get on with their own game and instead consentrate on trying to stop the gaels they could find themselves with the game over after 15 minutes. Im sure their management will have them well drilled before the game so im looking forward to a good one.
Ive been away for the summer so I havent seen any championship really, but is there any players that would be looking like potential county men? Ive heard about Darren Smith and Eoin Smith as potential full backs, what about Colm Smith from Cootehill, or Kevin Tierney, maybe hes still a bit young. Enda McCormack, Kevin Brady, Daryl McKenna, Bud Fitzpatrick and Thomas Corr might be worth a look at. I realise some of them have been in already but they were young then and might have matured as players and men. Any one else see any possible panelists or even someone who might push for a place on the county team?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on September 15, 2009, 09:34:37 AM
Killygarry will really be up against it this weekend,I know it would be great for football if Killygarry could cause an upset but TBH I just can't see it.Im also hearing that Johnston is home today.Although another has told me he's not back til 24th.Killygarry should be expecting him this weekend Id say.

BigMac Thomas Corr and EndaMcCormick are definitely worth another look.Both lads have lots of power.Something Cavan need.Colm Smith and Darren Smith mite also be worth bringing in.I wouldn't be so sure about the rest you mentioned.Tierney is far too young.Bud Fitz is still U-21 I believe too.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on September 15, 2009, 04:09:54 PM
Supposedly the CB have thrown the book at the Gaels following incidents after the Junior game on Sunday. 7 or 8 suspensions including 2 of their Senior players.Unless something happened down the tunnel then it seems a bit harsh. Anything happen about the Gowna incident the week before???
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: space rabbit on September 15, 2009, 05:30:13 PM
Quote from: boojangles on September 15, 2009, 04:09:54 PM
Supposedly the CB have thrown the book at the Gaels following incidents after the Junior game on Sunday. 7 or 8 suspensions including 2 of their Senior players.Unless something happened down the tunnel then it seems a bit harsh. Anything happen about the Gowna incident the week before???


I cant see them taking that lying down. 
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on September 15, 2009, 05:52:05 PM
Quote from: space rabbit on September 15, 2009, 05:30:13 PM
Quote from: boojangles on September 15, 2009, 04:09:54 PM
Supposedly the CB have thrown the book at the Gaels following incidents after the Junior game on Sunday. 7 or 8 suspensions including 2 of their Senior players.Unless something happened down the tunnel then it seems a bit harsh. Anything happen about the Gowna incident the week before???


I cant see them taking that lying down.

Well I seen the reaction of the 2 players in question,they were doing water boys and unless they did more down the tunnel then they should definitely be appealing.I know what I would have been doing on Sunday if he had done the same on my club. I would not condone violence on a ref but when are referees gonna be made accountable for their mistakes? The standard of refereeing in Cavan is ABYSSMAL.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on September 16, 2009, 09:51:20 AM
Quote from: REDCOL on September 15, 2009, 07:11:27 PM
In my opinion the referee was very lenient to the Gaels forwards throughout the second half . The incident that everyone feels that should have been at least a free was preceded by a clear push in the back by the Ballyhaise manager on the Bridge Centre Back. I can appreciate the Gaels players frustration, but the Bridge werent jumping up and down when a lot of 50/50 decisions went against them in the 2nd half

I cant agree here.The ref was letting alot of things go and let some over the top tackling go and fair enough,Id do the same if I knew the referee was letting it go but the one decision that he had to make sure he got right and he made a complete balls of.
There was instances for both teams where he lets things go,steps etc but that decision cost the Gaels a draw at least.
The Bridge boys were jumping up and down at the final whistle when they realised he hadnt given a penalty.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: space rabbit on September 16, 2009, 09:57:35 AM
Quote from: boojangles on September 16, 2009, 09:51:20 AM
Quote from: REDCOL on September 15, 2009, 07:11:27 PM
In my opinion the referee was very lenient to the Gaels forwards throughout the second half . The incident that everyone feels that should have been at least a free was preceded by a clear push in the back by the Ballyhaise manager on the Bridge Centre Back. I can appreciate the Gaels players frustration, but the Bridge werent jumping up and down when a lot of 50/50 decisions went against them in the 2nd half

I cant agree here.The ref was letting alot of things go and let some over the top tackling go and fair enough,Id do the same if I knew the referee was letting it go but the one decision that he had to make sure he got right and he made a complete balls of.
There was instances for both teams where he lets things go,steps etc but that decision cost the Gaels a draw at least.
The Bridge boys were jumping up and down at the final whistle when they realised he hadnt given a penalty.

They were jumping up and down because they were after getting to a county final. 

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Drung on September 16, 2009, 11:30:47 AM
If Cavan were in an All Ireland hurling final, the football club final would be put back - this is the handball championship of the world and so-called Gaels are begrudging putting back a match by a week?
I am flabbergasted.
R n B, are you a friend and supporter of Cavan GAA, Cavan football or just Killygarry?
Seeing as handball is a GAA sport and we are lucky enough to have the undisputed world number one in our county and he is flying to America hoping to defend his title, we should be doing all we can to support him.
By the way, there is no prize money for the World Championships according to www.ushandball.org.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Drung on September 16, 2009, 12:39:27 PM
Hang on, just so we're straight on this:
you are comparing a player having an injury to a player representing his club, county and country at a worldwide GAA event?

Remember, there is no prize money for this. This is for sheer pride.
Shame on you if you call yourself a GAA man and would deny someone a chance to play in a county final because they are representing Cavan and Ireland at the World Handball Championships.
It's not like he's going to make up the numbers, either. The man is arguably the greatest player ever.
With all of the problems, all of the f**king mess that the GAA is in in this county, your attitude is absolutely typical. Forget the bigger picture, mind your own little agenda.
I expected more from you.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: PhilsJemmysField on September 16, 2009, 01:02:58 PM
Is it true that both Gaels Div2 team and Gowna have been kicked out of league becuase of after match antics ?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on September 16, 2009, 01:27:26 PM
Quote from: PhilsJemmysField on September 16, 2009, 01:02:58 PM
Is it true that both Gaels Div2 team and Gowna have been kicked out of league becuase of after match antics ?

Yea it's true..


Ex-Cavan star McCabe hit with suspension
16 September 2009

The Cavan Competitions Control Committee has come down hard on two of the county's leading clubs following recent incidents of indiscipline.

Gowna have been suspended from playing matches in Division 1 of the All County Football League for 12 weeks and fined EUR2,000 following alleged abuse directed at referee Ollie Donohoe after their SFC quarter-final defeat by Killygarry.

Meanwhile, Cavan Gaels have been hit with similar bans as a result of incidents after their JFC defeat by Butlersbridge last Sunday, with their second team also suspended from Division 2 of the All County League for 12 weeks.

Seven individuals from each club were suspended in all, including former All-Star Dermot McCabe (four weeks) and county under 21 player Conor McClarey (four weeks). The heaviest suspension was on Gaels goalkeeper Niall O'Riordan, who has been handed a 12-week ban while the club was also fined EUR2,000.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on September 16, 2009, 01:39:43 PM
You've got to love the GAA. The suspension of clubs, as opposed to deducting them points is a joke. I haven't seen the league table in division 2 in a while but I do know that Kingscourt & Killeshandra are the top two. Killeshandra have both the Gaels & Kingscourt to play except now they'll probably be handed the two points from the Gaels match while some or all of the chasing pack may have already played them.
But it's ironic to see McCabe whinge his way through his career only to be hit with this suspension. And don't any of ye start on about what a servant he's been. I know he was but he was also a whinger.
I'm with RnB on the Gunner thing. There are many reasons that a player might miss a game but I don't think we should start drawing lines. He missed inter-county games for Cavan for handball related reasons. I doubt if the county got to any meaningful game, e.g. Ulster Final that we'd be looking to get it changed.
A little less of the emotions Drung. ;)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on September 16, 2009, 01:41:01 PM
Great win on Sunday in what was - looking back at it now - definitely not a classic match but not that it matters... We are in our first Championship final since 1971... we have gotten to a few senior semi finals and a handful of intermediate semis since then so Sunday really was a great day for a lot of people in the club...

Drung I suppose never really got going even when they got the goal against the run of play in the first half, they never really kicked on and only one more score from play in the whole game is a poor return.  But I have to say their captain Alan Curran, manager Joe Fitz and chairman Patsy Fitz could not have been more genuine after the game when they came into our dressing room - I really felt they meant every bit of what they said.

Now to the final, Friday night will be a tough game to call and I think it's dead even and wouldn't have Lavey as favourites at all.  Final fixed for Sunday week but that isn't 100% definite either but we'll not complain when it is.... 38 years is a long time I'd say we could stretch the wait out another week!!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Drung on September 16, 2009, 02:58:34 PM
To be honest, it won't concern you anyway RnB, much as it pains me and every neutral.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Mr. Pain on September 16, 2009, 04:25:34 PM
It's seems that as soon as Mr. Pain turns his back fanny-fits start everywhere. Get it together or the Pain gonna come down on you with an iron fist!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: big balla on September 16, 2009, 05:30:38 PM
Quote from: RednBlack on September 16, 2009, 01:54:25 PM
Quote from: Drung on September 16, 2009, 12:39:27 PM
Hang on, just so we're straight on this:
you are comparing a player having an injury to a player representing his club, county and country at a worldwide GAA event?

Remember, there is no prize money for this. This is for sheer pride.
Shame on you if you call yourself a GAA man and would deny someone a chance to play in a county final because they are representing Cavan and Ireland at the World Handball Championships.
It's not like he's going to make up the numbers, either. The man is arguably the greatest player ever.
With all of the problems, all of the f**king mess that the GAA is in in this county, your attitude is absolutely typical. Forget the bigger picture, mind your own little agenda.
I expected more from you.
one question: where was Paul when Cavan played Fermanagh in the Ulster championship this year. Every player makes a personal choice as to what his first love is. Fair play to the lad as he is true class but it is his choice to prioritise his handball over his football and hopefully he wins another World Champ. That is HIS choice and he is right to make it if that is the sport he loves most. Should everything else be put on hold because of this?
in fairness, he is representing Cavan and Ireland at the highest possible level in handball and they have every right to ask for the game to be put off. And its the club who want it done, you make it sound like Paul Brady personally asked the county board to postpone it so that he could have the best of both worlds. He is paying his own way to go out and represent us in a GAA sport. I totally agree with Drung, we should be delighted to have someone who gives that much commitment to Cavan and we should try to support them wherever possible
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: descartes on September 16, 2009, 06:26:58 PM
come on now RnB, where was paul when cavan played fermanagh?? so what if he was in america playing handball... As i understand it he makes it clear to the management team at the start of the year about when he will and will not be available, (of course you weren't in there doing stats last november when paul met with the management team so you mightn't be privy to that information,) and if they dont want him to join the panel then he will not do so, so dont come on here crying about his first love... If Sean Johnston had made the international rules panel last year the county board were going to put back the county final to accomodate that achievement, now we have a player who is captaining his countrys team at a world championships and you equate that to killygarry having a player injured...   ??? ??? ???
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on September 16, 2009, 08:26:23 PM
anybody got a spare ladder there, Drung man needs to climb down off his pulpit
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: big balla on September 16, 2009, 08:50:18 PM
Quote from: anglocelt39 on September 16, 2009, 08:26:23 PM
anybody got a spare ladder there, Drung man needs to climb down off his pulpit
thanks for your input there anglocelt,
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: space rabbit on September 16, 2009, 10:06:25 PM
Quote from: anglocelt39 on September 16, 2009, 08:26:23 PM
anybody got a spare ladder there, Drung man needs to climb down off his pulpit

Whats your opinion of it?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Drung on September 16, 2009, 10:52:17 PM
Oops... Red n Black seems to have deleted his account...
Was it something someone said? ???
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on September 17, 2009, 07:30:48 AM
Quote from: space rabbit on September 16, 2009, 10:06:25 PM
Quote from: anglocelt39 on September 16, 2009, 08:26:23 PM
anybody got a spare ladder there, Drung man needs to climb down off his pulpit

Whats your opinion of it?


Like many of these things it sure is not black and white and your opinion on the matter tends to depend on how it affects your position directly. Personally if I thought we could get the Ulster Council to buy in and put back any of our championship games because Paul is away playing handball I'm all for it. Can't ever see that happening mind, wonder why
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: space rabbit on September 17, 2009, 08:30:01 AM
Quote from: Drung on September 16, 2009, 10:52:17 PM
Oops... Red n Black seems to have deleted his account...
Was it something someone said? ???

He may have deleted a couple of posts but his account is still there.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: shotstopper1 on September 17, 2009, 01:57:24 PM
I do believe that Mullahoran asked the CB before the Championship started if they would agree to defer the final if the club reached it, and the CB agreed.It only seems to be an issue now that Killygarry have got to the semi's. The Gaels don't seem too concerned.

I really can't see how any GAA person in the county could deny probably our greatest ever GAA sportsman a chance to not only win a county medal with his club (if they beat Denn) but also defend his world Handball title, both GAA games.As far as I'm concerned it's proper order that Paul Brady can go to the World Championships with a clear head,and not have the dilema of whether to put club or country first.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Babe Ruth 47 on September 17, 2009, 05:37:03 PM
This whole thing has really been taken out of context. Its hardly the opinion of the whole of Killygarry, just one single poster. I really doubt people would mind it being put back by 1 week, it would only add to the build up.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Drung on September 17, 2009, 06:49:29 PM
The county board were also planning to put back the final last eyar if Johnston had made the Int Rules squad, remember. He looked a certainty at one point.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on September 17, 2009, 08:04:41 PM
Quote from: Drung on September 17, 2009, 06:49:29 PM
The county board were also planning to put back the final last eyar if Johnston had made the Int Rules squad, remember. He looked a certainty at one point.

Well that's sorted so. I see hurling is making a bit of an emergence in Cavan again, including at my long lost home club. So if at some stage one of the lads is afforded the honour of being selected to play against Scotland in the annual Shinty internationals we have a precedent for more postponements. What about the under 17 International Rules tours to Australia? we usually have a few lads involved

I have great admiration for Paul Brady, but it's all about precedent, we will end up playing finals on Christmas Eve if we're not careful.

County Waterford is an interesting example of how things can be done. A few years ago County football champions missed first Round of Munster club because competitions ran late. This year, hurling and football championship at all grades is totally up to date. The reason, new County Board Chairman who takes no shit and publishes a fixture list which is the bible.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on September 17, 2009, 09:03:43 PM
I agree with Anglo Celt. It's not about who minds and who doesn't. Paul Brady has selected handball as his number one sport. He knows that comes before everything else which is fine. The point is that you can't start moving games because of one player. If it was a case that half the team wasn't available as it was with the Down minors then there'd be a case. I'm not going to make comparisons that can be shot down. I just think in principle that Mullahoran knew this might happen and should put up with the possible consequences.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: big balla on September 17, 2009, 09:11:00 PM
Quote from: anglocelt39 on September 17, 2009, 08:04:41 PM
Quote from: Drung on September 17, 2009, 06:49:29 PM
The county board were also planning to put back the final last eyar if Johnston had made the Int Rules squad, remember. He looked a certainty at one point.

Well that's sorted so. I see hurling is making a bit of an emergence in Cavan again, including at my long lost home club. So if at some stage one of the lads is afforded the honour of being selected to play against Scotland in the annual Shinty internationals we have a precedent for more postponements. What about the under 17 International Rules tours to Australia? we usually have a few lads involved

I have great admiration for Paul Brady, but it's all about precedent, we will end up playing finals on Christmas Eve if we're not careful.

County Waterford is an interesting example of how things can be done. A few years ago County football champions missed first Round of Munster club because competitions ran late. This year, hurling and football championship at all grades is totally up to date. The reason, new County Board Chairman who takes no shit and publishes a fixture list which is the bible.
the aussie rules is only a mongrel game that was invented as a money spinner, the handball Paul Brady will be playing is exactly the same as he plays here. you cant compare the two. fair enough it sets a prcedent, that any team with a  player captaining ireland at a world championship in a gaa sport should be allowed have a game postponed by one week.i doubt it will turn into an epidemic
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on September 17, 2009, 09:22:45 PM
Quote from: big balla on September 17, 2009, 09:11:00 PM
Quote from: anglocelt39 on September 17, 2009, 08:04:41 PM
Quote from: Drung on September 17, 2009, 06:49:29 PM
The county board were also planning to put back the final last eyar if Johnston had made the Int Rules squad, remember. He looked a certainty at one point.

Well that's sorted so. I see hurling is making a bit of an emergence in Cavan again, including at my long lost home club. So if at some stage one of the lads is afforded the honour of being selected to play against Scotland in the annual Shinty internationals we have a precedent for more postponements. What about the under 17 International Rules tours to Australia? we usually have a few lads involved

I have great admiration for Paul Brady, but it's all about precedent, we will end up playing finals on Christmas Eve if we're not careful.

County Waterford is an interesting example of how things can be done. A few years ago County football champions missed first Round of Munster club because competitions ran late. This year, hurling and football championship at all grades is totally up to date. The reason, new County Board Chairman who takes no shit and publishes a fixture list which is the bible.
the aussie rules is only a mongrel game that was invented as a money spinner, the handball Paul Brady will be playing is exactly the same as he plays here. you cant compare the two. fair enough it sets a prcedent, that any team with a  player captaining ireland at a world championship in a gaa sport should be allowed have a game postponed by one week.i doubt it will turn into an epidemic

Have to agree here,Cavan GAA should be delighted to have somebody of the calibre of Paul Brady representing them on the World stage.It may never happen again so I don't think precedent could really come into it. We don't tend to produce many World Champions in this county!!If they win on Saturday I say put the final back a week.
Would Killygarry or the Gaels really like to win a County Final against a team missing their best player??
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on September 17, 2009, 09:43:41 PM
My Aussie Rules reference comes from  a point made that the County Final might have been put back last year if a Cavan Gaels player had been involved in the Irish Panel, but that didn't come to pass. It might be a "mongrel game" but it's sanctioned by the GAA and on that basis will give an out to somebody.

Delighted for Paul Brady, just be ready for the copy cat claims in due course
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: space rabbit on September 17, 2009, 10:27:27 PM
Quote from: anglocelt39 on September 17, 2009, 09:43:41 PM
My Aussie Rules reference comes from  a point made that the County Final might have been put back last year if a Cavan Gaels player had been involved in the Irish Panel, but that didn't come to pass. It might be a "mongrel game" but it's sanctioned by the GAA and on that basis will give an out to somebody.

Delighted for Paul Brady, just be ready for the copy cat claims in due course

Catch a grip of youself, what other copy cat claims could there be. 
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on September 17, 2009, 10:50:43 PM
Quote from: space rabbit on September 17, 2009, 10:27:27 PM
Quote from: anglocelt39 on September 17, 2009, 09:43:41 PM
My Aussie Rules reference comes from  a point made that the County Final might have been put back last year if a Cavan Gaels player had been involved in the Irish Panel, but that didn't come to pass. It might be a "mongrel game" but it's sanctioned by the GAA and on that basis will give an out to somebody.

Delighted for Paul Brady, just be ready for the copy cat claims in due course

Catch a grip of youself, what other copy cat claims could there be. 
Absoloutely none. This is was the only possible case. ;)
Anyway, as most fancy the gaels in the second game what's the feeling about the first semi? I haven't seen Mullahoran but have seen Denn twice. Plenty of commitment but a lack of good players. Will it be enough? I doubt Colin McKiernan (?) will get the space he got against Castlerathan.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on September 17, 2009, 11:25:41 PM
Quote from: space rabbit on September 17, 2009, 10:27:27 PM
Quote from: anglocelt39 on September 17, 2009, 09:43:41 PM
My Aussie Rules reference comes from  a point made that the County Final might have been put back last year if a Cavan Gaels player had been involved in the Irish Panel, but that didn't come to pass. It might be a "mongrel game" but it's sanctioned by the GAA and on that basis will give an out to somebody.

Delighted for Paul Brady, just be ready for the copy cat claims in due course

Catch a grip of youself, what other copy cat claims could there be.

So all our club delegates to the County board are purer than the driven snow and would never dare mention gunners (possibly) deserving case when looking for a postponement due to emigration/swine flu at Laragh National School/Oxegen/Electric Picnic/Scor/Compromise Rules/Hurling/Shinty/Camogie/Weddings/Funerals/Deportation Parties.

Good so, look forward to the contributions from the playing members in December about the drag in the fixture list and how our County Board couldn't organise a shag in a brothel
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: space rabbit on September 18, 2009, 08:02:27 AM
Quote from: anglocelt39 on September 17, 2009, 11:25:41 PM
Quote from: space rabbit on September 17, 2009, 10:27:27 PM
Quote from: anglocelt39 on September 17, 2009, 09:43:41 PM
My Aussie Rules reference comes from  a point made that the County Final might have been put back last year if a Cavan Gaels player had been involved in the Irish Panel, but that didn't come to pass. It might be a "mongrel game" but it's sanctioned by the GAA and on that basis will give an out to somebody.

Delighted for Paul Brady, just be ready for the copy cat claims in due course

Catch a grip of youself, what other copy cat claims could there be.

So all our club delegates to the County board are purer than the driven snow and would never dare mention gunners (possibly) deserving case when looking for a postponement due to emigration/swine flu at Laragh National School/Oxegen/Electric Picnic/Scor/Compromise Rules/Hurling/Shinty/Camogie/Weddings/Funerals/Deportation Parties.

Good so, look forward to the contributions from the playing members in December about the drag in the fixture list and how our County Board couldn't organise a shag in a brothel

This isnt about someone missing any game its a county final. 

Yes games are cancelled because of Funerals, had u a problem with the Lavey Baileboro game being called off last weekend because a players mother passed away.  A game can be put off if a team requests a free weekend in the case of weddings but that is done at start of year or as early as possible.

You are a bitter man by the sounds off things.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on September 18, 2009, 09:39:24 AM
Quote from: space rabbit on September 18, 2009, 08:02:27 AM
Quote from: anglocelt39 on September 17, 2009, 11:25:41 PM
Quote from: space rabbit on September 17, 2009, 10:27:27 PM
Quote from: anglocelt39 on September 17, 2009, 09:43:41 PM
My Aussie Rules reference comes from  a point made that the County Final might have been put back last year if a Cavan Gaels player had been involved in the Irish Panel, but that didn't come to pass. It might be a "mongrel game" but it's sanctioned by the GAA and on that basis will give an out to somebody.

Delighted for Paul Brady, just be ready for the copy cat claims in due course

Catch a grip of youself, what other copy cat claims could there be.

So all our club delegates to the County board are purer than the driven snow and would never dare mention gunners (possibly) deserving case when looking for a postponement due to emigration/swine flu at Laragh National School/Oxegen/Electric Picnic/Scor/Compromise Rules/Hurling/Shinty/Camogie/Weddings/Funerals/Deportation Parties.

Good so, look forward to the contributions from the playing members in December about the drag in the fixture list and how our County Board couldn't organise a shag in a brothel

This isnt about someone missing any game its a county final. 

Yes games are cancelled because of Funerals, had u a problem with the Lavey Baileboro game being called off last weekend because a players mother passed away.  A game can be put off if a team requests a free weekend in the case of weddings but that is done at start of year or as early as possible.

You are a bitter man by the sounds off things.

Now now down with that sort of thing.This is a discussion board for opinions.Just because somebodies opinion differs from your own doesnt mean they are bitter or the like. I don't agree with what he is saying either but Anglo Celt is one of the fairest and more informed posters on here.In time you may come to realise that.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on September 18, 2009, 10:32:54 AM
Space Rabbit, first of all welcome to the Board.

I've been following this board for a fair few years now, maybe you have been yourself. One of the most regular complaints from posters who are playing the game concerns the management of the fixture list. That is a fact.

Perhaps one way of dealing with that issue is by being very hard arsed in how the postponment of fixtures is administered. That is my opinion.

My own view is that the more "one off type" exceptions you grant the more you encourage others to try their luck in making their own cases. Again, that is my opinion.

So there you have it. Nothing more to say on the subject. Some people disagree with my view, a small number agree. You'll find as you settle into the board that just because a person doesn't agree with you doesn't make him, or you, bitter.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Drung on September 18, 2009, 12:28:30 PM
What message would is send out to young fellas who want to play other GAA sports? The message would be that football is king here, rules are rules and f**k anything else.
This narrow-mindedness and failure to see the big picture is typical of Cavan 'GAA' supporters.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on September 18, 2009, 12:43:22 PM
Quote from: Drung on September 18, 2009, 12:28:30 PM
What message would is send out to young fellas who want to play other GAA sports? The message would be that football is king here, rules are rules and f**k anything else.
This narrow-mindedness and failure to see the big picture is typical of Cavan 'GAA' supporters.


Think you forgot to insert the words "In my opinion" in the last sentence there mate
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Drung on September 18, 2009, 01:40:20 PM
I think that would be superfluous, do you not? By it's nature, everything written on this board is opinion, mate.
In my opinion, of course.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: PhilsJemmysField on September 18, 2009, 02:32:03 PM
Who will win round the weekend. Can a div 3 team make an intermediate final or will Lavey stand up to the plate ? How will MG Brady ref it will he blow the whistle at all or will he do an Ollie the Finn on it ? Will Mullahoran and Denn be a low scoring slog fest or could we see Denn come out all guns firing and make a real go of taking out one of the big guns. Will the Gaels learn from last weekend and not have half the town along the line and stop back healing 45's and blow Killygarry of the park. How will Killygarry win this one ? Or will we end up next week bitching about referee's
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Drung on September 18, 2009, 04:12:32 PM
Still disgusted over last weekend, Drung made Cootehill look like Tyrone.
Colm Smith was very good though, worth a run with Cavan.
On this weekend's games, I'm tipping Shamrocks and Lavey to draw, Denn to win narrowly and Gaels to win by about 12 points.

What was that about back-heeling 45s?!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: PhilsJemmysField on September 18, 2009, 04:27:49 PM
One of the Gael's lads back heeled a 45 to a comrade who promptly kicked it up in the air and the bridge cleared easily. Very funny to watch but made for very bad football
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: space rabbit on September 18, 2009, 04:54:06 PM
Quote from: anglocelt39 on September 17, 2009, 11:25:41 PM
Quote from: space rabbit on September 17, 2009, 10:27:27 PM
Quote from: anglocelt39 on September 17, 2009, 09:43:41 PM
My Aussie Rules reference comes from  a point made that the County Final might have been put back last year if a Cavan Gaels player had been involved in the Irish Panel, but that didn't come to pass. It might be a "mongrel game" but it's sanctioned by the GAA and on that basis will give an out to somebody.

Delighted for Paul Brady, just be ready for the copy cat claims in due course

Catch a grip of youself, what other copy cat claims could there be.

So all our club delegates to the County board are purer than the driven snow and would never dare mention gunners (possibly) deserving case when looking for a postponement due to emigration/swine flu at Laragh National School/Oxegen/Electric Picnic/Scor/Compromise Rules/Hurling/Shinty/Camogie/Weddings/Funerals/Deportation Parties.

Good so, look forward to the contributions from the playing members in December about the drag in the fixture list and how our County Board couldn't organise a shag in a brothel

The main reason why games were postponed this year was because of the county team.  The league fixtures were run off pretty well until the Fermanagh game.  This year it has being up to the clubs involved to re-arrange a fixture within 4 or 5 days of the fixture.  If they couldnt agree the game had to go ahead on the date of the original fixture.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on September 18, 2009, 08:25:41 PM
Quote from: Drung on September 18, 2009, 04:12:32 PM
Still disgusted over last weekend, Drung made Cootehill look like Tyrone.
Colm Smith was very good though, worth a run with Cavan.
On this weekend's games, I'm tipping Shamrocks and Lavey to draw, Denn to win narrowly and Gaels to win by about 12 points.

What was that about back-heeling 45s?!


Celt Man might correct me on this but Colm Smith may be in college in England which would work against a run with the County. Good to see Cootehill re-emerge after so long, we need teams like that to be coming good for the sake of the County. How, in your opinion, did the County players perform Drung. Did Galligan get stuck in?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: space rabbit on September 18, 2009, 10:11:24 PM
Quote from: anglocelt39 on September 18, 2009, 08:25:41 PM
Quote from: Drung on September 18, 2009, 04:12:32 PM
Still disgusted over last weekend, Drung made Cootehill look like Tyrone.
Colm Smith was very good though, worth a run with Cavan.
On this weekend's games, I'm tipping Shamrocks and Lavey to draw, Denn to win narrowly and Gaels to win by about 12 points.

What was that about back-heeling 45s?!


Celt Man might correct me on this but Colm Smith may be in college in England which would work against a run with the County. Good to see Cootehill re-emerge after so long, we need teams like that to be coming good for the sake of the County. How, in your opinion, did the County players perform Drung. Did Galligan get stuck in?

I wouldnt say Cootehill are coming good.  They have had a good run this year but would be an old enough team, be good to see how they get on against Lavey.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on September 18, 2009, 11:29:44 PM
Lavey win by 3 points.If Bailieboro had have had any forwards they could have won it.Couldn't believe how they left 14-Paddy Bird out the field for so long when he clearly looked like the only forward who might get a score.He scored a cracking goal in the 1st half but was very quiet for a long spell after that.Darren Smith had it all his own way until 7 minutes to go when they finally put Bird inside and the only good ball he got he skinned Smith and stuck it over.
Neither team looked outstanding but Laveys better use of the ball was the difference.Lavey are missing a real outstanding forward.Declan Murphy had a good 1st half and scored 2 nice points and Kevin Brady scored a cracking point in the 2nd half but I wouldnt like to be relying on either men to win a game for me.
1 dubious decision by Mickedy with 2 or 3 minutes remaining and Lavey a point up.I and most of the stand felt Bailieboro should have had a free in around the 20 yard line,he didnt give it and Lavey went straight down and scored.
Lavey-Cootehill final.Who knows what will happen.Lavey will be slight favourites but favourites don't always win Finals, especially at Intermediate.No disrespect to CeltMan but I definitely wouldn't begrudge Lavey a win.They have been knocking on the door for a while now and have reached a final without arguably their 2 best footballers. But none of that will matter on the day.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on September 18, 2009, 11:53:22 PM
Quote from: anglocelt39 on September 18, 2009, 08:25:41 PM
Quote from: Drung on September 18, 2009, 04:12:32 PM
Still disgusted over last weekend, Drung made Cootehill look like Tyrone.
Colm Smith was very good though, worth a run with Cavan.
On this weekend's games, I'm tipping Shamrocks and Lavey to draw, Denn to win narrowly and Gaels to win by about 12 points.

What was that about back-heeling 45s?!


Celt Man might correct me on this but Colm Smith may be in college in England which would work against a run with the County. Good to see Cootehill re-emerge after so long, we need teams like that to be coming good for the sake of the County. How, in your opinion, did the County players perform Drung. Did Galligan get stuck in?

Aye Colm is in college in Manchester for the next 3 years anyway so that would be awkward enough to be in the county set up but he is worth a shot anyway.  Thought John had a very solid game, rarely takes the wrong option and rarely loses the ball either.  Galligan, I'm sure, wouldn't have been happy with his perfomance.  I'm not saying he played bad but he would have liked to get on the ball a bit more.  Waters wasn't near fit but still didn't played badly either

As for teams like ourselves coming good for the sake of the county, I think I understand your point.  In a county like Cavan you probably need the bigger urban areas (towns) to be strong.  Simply put, the odds are the County would have a better chance of doing well if the likes of Bailieboro, Kingscourt, Belturbet, Virginia (Ramor), Cootehill and Cavan had good strong teams than if all those places had weak teams.  I'm definitely not saying the two things go hand in hand but you would have a better chances with a stronger pick
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on September 19, 2009, 12:02:05 AM
Quote from: boojangles on September 18, 2009, 11:29:44 PM
Lavey win by 3 points.If Bailieboro had have had any forwards they could have won it.Couldn't believe how they left 14-Paddy Bird out the field for so long when he clearly looked like the only forward who might get a score.He scored a cracking goal in the 1st half but was very quiet for a long spell after that.Darren Smith had it all his own way until 7 minutes to go when they finally put Bird inside and the only good ball he got he skinned Smith and stuck it over.
Neither team looked outstanding but Laveys better use of the ball was the difference.Lavey are missing a real outstanding forward.Declan Murphy had a good 1st half and scored 2 nice points and Kevin Brady scored a cracking point in the 2nd half but I wouldnt like to be relying on either men to win a game for me.
1 dubious decision by Mickedy with 2 or 3 minutes remaining and Lavey a point up.I and most of the stand felt Bailieboro should have had a free in around the 20 yard line,he didnt give it and Lavey went straight down and scored.
Lavey-Cootehill final.Who knows what will happen.Lavey will be slight favourites but favourites don't always win Finals, especially at Intermediate.No disrespect to CeltMan but I definitely wouldn't begrudge Lavey a win.They have been knocking on the door for a while now and have reached a final without arguably their 2 best footballers. But none of that will matter on the day.

If it wasn't ourselves, I wouldn't begrudge Lavey anything either but knocking on the door could have feck all effect next Sunday (Please Jaysus!)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on September 19, 2009, 12:57:52 PM
In fairness to Lavey, although we could have won the game they were the better team. There was some hard hits and strong tackling and even thought it was relatively low-scoring, I thought it was a good championship match with a lot of hunger and passion.

Wish them all the best in final.

I Like Darren Smith a lot and I have mentioned our number six Declan Reilly before, I think he has the makings of a very good county corner-back if he was given the chance. He is a nuisance
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on September 19, 2009, 09:51:37 PM
Repeat of last year's final lads. That's the first time I've seen Mullahoran this year and unless that was a one off then it's the worst team I've seen them put out ever. They didn't even have the heart to try to the end, or so it appeared. Their forwards really were shockingly bad, both in winning ball and executing a shot, although credit must go to the Denn backs who again played very well collectively.
Colin McKiernan was again the scoring hero and three of his points could have been goals only for him to take the correct decision in a low scoring game.
The second game was strange with hardly any atmosphere. Great start by Killygarry going 4 ahead early on but the atmosphere may be explained by a sense of inevitability that when the gaels got in front they wouldn't be stopped and so it proved.
Eoin Smith had a good game on Walsh (TC was hardly there?) and the victory was sealed when the took Walsh away from the square to allow Dunne to run riot in a 5 minute spell.
Martin Reilly did well on Crotty first half but Collins proved effective as the extra man in front of their one true target.
I'd have thought Nelligan wouldn't be to happy losing his place to Johnston.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on September 20, 2009, 01:27:39 PM
Quote from: Drung on September 18, 2009, 12:28:30 PM
What message would is send out to young fellas who want to play other GAA sports? The message would be that football is king here, rules are rules and f**k anything else.
This narrow-mindedness and failure to see the big picture is typical of Cavan 'GAA' supporters.


Ah Drung, it is indeed a difficult path in life you have chosen getting down and dirty on the GAA Discussion Board with the narrow minded neanderthals that make up the typical  body of Cavan GAA support. I want to be the first to thank you for your efforts to raise the tone of discussion to a more lofty and broad minded level. Keep it up mate
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: space rabbit on September 20, 2009, 01:35:31 PM
Quote from: anglocelt39 on September 20, 2009, 01:27:39 PM
Quote from: Drung on September 18, 2009, 12:28:30 PM
What message would is send out to young fellas who want to play other GAA sports? The message would be that football is king here, rules are rules and f**k anything else.
This narrow-mindedness and failure to see the big picture is typical of Cavan 'GAA' supporters.


Ah Drung, it is indeed a difficult path in life you have chosen getting down and dirty on the GAA Discussion Board with the narrow minded neanderthals that make up the typical  body of Cavan GAA support. I want to be the first to thank you for your efforts to raise the tone of discussion to a more lofty and broad minded level. Keep it up mate

Two days later  ::)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on September 20, 2009, 07:54:31 PM
Quote from: put-it-up on September 19, 2009, 12:57:52 PM
In fairness to Lavey, although we could have won the game they were the better team. There was some hard hits and strong tackling and even thought it was relatively low-scoring, I thought it was a good championship match with a lot of hunger and passion.

Wish them all the best in final.

I Like Darren Smith a lot and I have mentioned our number six Declan Reilly before, I think he has the makings of a very good county corner-back if he was given the chance. He is a nuisance



Commiserations Put it Up. Mind you from speaking to Francis Clark on my annual visit to the home place I got the feeling that the main priority was to get back up into Intermediate league and get a few more young lads through, he gave the impression that the Championship was a (very welcome) bonus. Wouldn't begrudge either Lavey or Cootehill  a win in the final. Celt  Man I remember some of your comments about the battles you are having keeping the thing moving forward at underage level. You'd hope that this might be some small bit of help in getting the younger lads interested.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Drung on September 20, 2009, 09:06:04 PM
QuoteWhat message would is send out to young fellas who want to play other GAA sports? The message would be that football is king here, rules are rules and f**k anything else.
This narrow-mindedness and failure to see the big picture is typical of Cavan 'GAA' supporters.



Ah Drung, it is indeed a difficult path in life you have chosen getting down and dirty on the GAA Discussion Board with the narrow minded neanderthals that make up the typical  body of Cavan GAA support. I want to be the first to thank you for your efforts to raise the tone of discussion to a more lofty and broad minded level. Keep it up mate

Eh? Didn't you already reply to that a couple of days ago?
For future reference, here's how it works: You're supposed to then reply to my reply, not have a couple of days to think and then have another stab at trying to say something smart in response to the original post!
Less of this arse-boxing and back to the topic at hand. Let's call the finals lads - I'm going:

Bridge
Lavey
Gaels
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on September 20, 2009, 09:18:08 PM
Ah Drung, your development on this board has been quite interesting. Started off as quite an internet warrior, in fairness to you became quite a reasoned and informed poster there a few months ago. Think your change may have been timed to coincide with getting an invitation to a face to face meeting from one of our fellow thread members, a no-nonsense type from the famed Drumalee club if I remember correctly.  ;)  Looks like the change was only temporary but I'm sure you'll be a bit more careful as to who you pick your arguments with in future.

Hard to argue with your final picks.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: space rabbit on September 22, 2009, 01:55:08 PM
Whats the craic around Cootehill leading up to the final Celt_Man, is there a good buzz around?  Any other members have clubs in any of the finals?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on September 22, 2009, 02:18:44 PM
Mickey Lee has been chosen to referee at the Junior Final on Sunday. Didnt hear who got the Intermediate,Im sure Celtman could fill us in?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: space rabbit on September 22, 2009, 02:48:01 PM
Quote from: boojangles on September 22, 2009, 02:18:44 PM
Mickey Lee has been chosen to referee at the Junior Final on Sunday. Didnt hear who got the Intermediate,Im sure Celtman could fill us in?

Gerry Sheridan

Will have to pack the ear plugs for the first game  :D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on September 22, 2009, 05:17:25 PM
Swad
Cootehill
Gaels
Those are my predictions.
Celt Man, if im not on before Sunday,Best of luck.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on September 22, 2009, 05:25:45 PM
Quote from: space rabbit on September 22, 2009, 02:48:01 PM
Quote from: boojangles on September 22, 2009, 02:18:44 PM
Mickey Lee has been chosen to referee at the Junior Final on Sunday. Didnt hear who got the Intermediate,Im sure Celtman could fill us in?

Gerry Sheridan

Will have to pack the ear plugs for the first game  :D

Mickey can be hard on the ear alright,he gets horrid excited with the whistle!! But he is one of a small band of 'Good' referees in Cavan who can actually control a game and use common sense.

Predictions:
The Bridge
Lavey
The Gaels

with Ballyhaise in the Minor
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on September 22, 2009, 07:36:03 PM
Quote from: space rabbit on September 22, 2009, 01:55:08 PM
Whats the craic around Cootehill leading up to the final Celt_Man, is there a good buzz around?  Any other members have clubs in any of the finals?

It's been 38 years since Cootehill were in a championship final so there is a great buzz about the place in general.  Loads of flags, signs, banners and bunting up the main street - great to see really.  Not that inspiration is needed but some of the sights couldn't but spur you on.

Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on September 22, 2009, 05:17:25 PM
Swad
Cootehill
Gaels
Those are my predictions.
Celt Man, if im not on before Sunday,Best of luck.

Cheers boss. Much appreciated...
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on September 22, 2009, 07:42:02 PM
Very little comment on the weekend semis lads? Did ye not go?
I agree that Mickey Lee is one of the best in the county. Someone said that Jimmy was good in the other game at the weekend. I'd have to disagree STRONGLY.
Best of luck Celt Man. If winning helps bring on a big town team then it's good for all of us.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on September 22, 2009, 08:51:29 PM
Quote from: Celt_Man on September 22, 2009, 07:36:03 PM
Quote from: space rabbit on September 22, 2009, 01:55:08 PM
Whats the craic around Cootehill leading up to the final Celt_Man, is there a good buzz around?  Any other members have clubs in any of the finals?

It's been 38 years since Cootehill were in a championship final so there is a great buzz about the place in general.  Loads of flags, signs, banners and bunting up the main street - great to see really.  Not that inspiration is needed but some of the sights couldn't but spur you on.

Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on September 22, 2009, 05:17:25 PM
Swad
Cootehill
Gaels
Those are my predictions.
Celt Man, if im not on before Sunday,Best of luck.

Cheers boss. Much appreciated...

Is that right? Hard to believe. Good luck at the weekend.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on September 22, 2009, 09:11:31 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on September 22, 2009, 08:51:29 PM
Quote from: Celt_Man on September 22, 2009, 07:36:03 PM
Quote from: space rabbit on September 22, 2009, 01:55:08 PM
Whats the craic around Cootehill leading up to the final Celt_Man, is there a good buzz around?  Any other members have clubs in any of the finals?

It's been 38 years since Cootehill were in a championship final so there is a great buzz about the place in general.  Loads of flags, signs, banners and bunting up the main street - great to see really.  Not that inspiration is needed but some of the sights couldn't but spur you on.

Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on September 22, 2009, 05:17:25 PM
Swad
Cootehill
Gaels
Those are my predictions.
Celt Man, if im not on before Sunday,Best of luck.

Cheers boss. Much appreciated...

Is that right? Hard to believe. Good luck at the weekend.

Yea been to two senior semi finals since and handful of intermediate ones.  only 2 senior and two div 2 leagues and that's it.  Cheers
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: North Longford on September 23, 2009, 11:05:30 AM
Was at the semis on Saturday...........
Brief thoughts.
Denn well organised and took scores on the break very well. Mullahoran......as bad as I've ever seen them and wouldn't pick their county players out too easily.
Killygarry too dependent on Martin Reilly and when Collins went back in front of him, that was that.
Gaels, Walsh is a complete waste at fullforward and Johnston to be honest not much better on the 40. Always has to play the ball and not brilliant at picking out a pass. For the good of their squad comraderie I would have taken Johnston off sooner. I would have moved Walsh from full forward much sooner. Reckon if they want a big man at full forward they would be better with Sean Reilly. Great pair of hands and looks a beter footballer than Walsh. To be brutally honest its hard to see how Walsh is on the county team because I'd say he's just barely good enough for the Gaels team. Certainly not at full forward the couple of times I've seen him. Maybe he is a lot better in the middle of the field (which I think he is) and the Geals might improve things a bit better by rejigging their team. Even Walsh on the 40 and Johnston and Dunne inside would be better. A team is going to need 2 exceptional corner backs to manage those 2.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: PhilsJemmysField on September 23, 2009, 12:08:43 PM
Denn had a very strong defence system as soon as the lost the ball moved straight back into a packed defence mode and made Physical, Hard but fair contact. Full Back walked all over Eddie both for Clean and Dirty ball in second half. Full foward and corner foward for Denn looked good on the break with Cahill helping out but everything worked down one wing in second Half so not going to be hard to work out how denn play. Mullahoran scored once from play, subs they brought on were no impact, certainly would think a few players may never be seen again in Breffni, but you never know. Could be the start of a long cruel drop for Mullahoran, the Gunner came on but was badly injured really and had to go off. Mickey lee the little corner foward did well also but would'nt shut up is there any way the 4th official could give him a card for verbals

Killygarry played everthing to M Reilly and even though they got a good start it was always looking bad once the Gaels started running from Half Back. Forde kicked a good bit of aimless high ball at Walsh in first half but Smith ate him out of it both for Clean and Dirty Ball. Reilly looked fairly good at the middle as did Thomas but Killygarry defensively were very naive did not really funnel back so let Gaels Half Back line break. Once they got moving then it looked all over, Johnston was not at his best but still tied Killygarry up in knots a couple of times. Then at half time Forde gave J Galligan a really good lecture about how to referee with Chesty. Was incredible that two players could ignore going back in with their team like that for 5 minutes and lecture a ref at the 45. So amazingly after half time the Gales back line could then drag Reilly around the place and so he never got a smell of the ball and thus ended Killygarry's hope. As soon as the Gaels were on top they effectively had Collins and Chesty as sweepers brough Walsh to Midfield and Dunne ran riot for a few minutes kicking some lovely scores. Then got a lucky goal end of story

No crowd no atmosphere at all in Breffni, the gates are down 20% on last year in breffni even though we had more games in Championship. So that says it all. Hope Lavey do it at the weekend but think Cootehill have better scoring fowards so will be interesting. Junior final would not have a strong opinion. The Gaels team is not a patch on the team of  years ago from a pure football look but are still too good for Denn. Though Denn will make them work extremly hard  would suspect though that Joe McQ always gives everything to the County lads so the habit of a lifetime will not change now. So even that will help the Gaels
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on September 23, 2009, 01:00:54 PM
Listened to the Games on the weekend on Northern Sound.  The commentator obviously tried to take a leaf from Michael O' book of commentating i.e.some background info and talking about it for a while.  I can't even articulate show bad he is.  And I'll have to do it again!

Was pleased to hear that Jerome Kiernan was mentioned a lot.  He seemed to have a good game.  Mullaghoran didn't seem to be at the races.  Was it bad day at the office or did we police them well. 

Now the big one.  How can we beat CG?  I would hope that we play our own game and let CG try and stop us.  Easier said than done but Trying to tie down CG and playing to minimise their effectiveness hasn't worked before and I would imagine will not work this time.  Let them worry about us and give it a go.

I see that Joe McQuillan will be reffing the final.  Would appear to be a bit officious but if we can be disciplined, no bother.

Will be hoping that Lavey can do the business on Sunday (neighbours and all that) and Swanlinbar.  Hope the games are good and would imagine that it will be better day of football than the Senior Final Day. 
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on September 23, 2009, 02:34:19 PM
Quote from: Lawrence of Knockbride on September 22, 2009, 07:42:02 PM
Very little comment on the weekend semis lads? Did ye not go?
I agree that Mickey Lee is one of the best in the county. Someone said that Jimmy was good in the other game at the weekend. I'd have to disagree STRONGLY.
Best of luck Celt Man. If winning helps bring on a big town team then it's good for all of us.

Id have to second that.I thought he was more of a man Jimmy,I thought wrong.Let Forde and Chesty dictate to him. Yellows should have been dished out at HT.Let Chesty away with over the top tackle in 2nd half too.
RedNBlack had mentioned McKenna as possible county material,after seeing him on Saturday I would have to disagree.Gave Dunne far too much room and looks sluggish.Didnt get physical enough either. As mentioned by Put it Up, I was impressed with BBoro Centre Half,Declan Reilly,looks very strong.May not have the pace for corner back but definitely looks like a nuisence. Rooney looks very erratic,can do some great things but doesnt look very depenable.
Hard not to be impressed with Gavin Duffy from the Gaels.Very fit,strong and comfortable on the ball.
Best of Luck to Celt Man,should be an enjoyable game and I can enjoy it as a neutral. If Cootehill get any change out of a very mean Lavey defence they could do it.But IMO thats a big IF.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: space rabbit on September 23, 2009, 04:44:53 PM
I think it could be a low scoring game, neither side are blessed with great forwards.  If Lavey can keep Smith quiet i will go for Lavey by 3.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on September 23, 2009, 06:21:30 PM
Quote from: space rabbit on September 23, 2009, 04:44:53 PM
I think it could be a low scoring game, neither side are blessed with great forwards.  If Lavey can keep Smith quiet i will go for Lavey by 3.

No prizes there,the majority of games in Cavan are low scoring.A fair reflection on the bad standards. Would tend to agree about keeping Smith quiet,which I think Joey Jordan may just do.But it always leaves it for somebody not so well known to make a name for himself on the Big day. CeltMan could be making the headlines next week!!!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: PhilsJemmysField on September 24, 2009, 09:42:00 AM
was over in Kingscourt last night where Killinkere came back from the dead to draw with BBoro in a C Championship final. Was good to see in that BBoro had about 30 lads in the dugout so with first team players. That must mean that BBoro have in the region of 48 ~ 50 lads involved which is good to see. Maggie Farrelly nearly ran out of wind she was blowing the whistle that much but she called it ok over all. Charlie Clarke still has a lot to offer at that level. would b good to know what the Clinch said to Francis when he was took off with 10 minutes of first half to go. Hopping Mad as they say
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: PhilsJemmysField on September 24, 2009, 05:07:42 PM
Cartman Said "My Mama said if you wanna b a good -----------  then you gotta learn to lick Carpet"
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on September 24, 2009, 07:24:00 PM
Brady pulls out of U21 race
by Paul Fitzpatrick
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Former Cavan defender Ciaran Brady has ruled himself out of the running for the vacant county Under 21 manager's position.

The Gowna clubman was originally offered the position, as revealed in The Anglo-Celt two weeks ago, but has since decided to opt out after failing to reach an agreement with senior management over access to players.

Brady had insisted that Under 21 players be allowed train separately from the senior squad and be available for all Under 21 matches in the build up to the Ulster Championship in March, a proposal which was rejected by senior manager Tom Carr.

"I would have been very interested in the position, I would have been honoured to be in charge of the Under 21 team but the condition that I had was that the Under 21 players that were on the senior panel would train with the Under 21 team and be available to the Under 21s," stated Brady.

"I didn't want a situation where the Under 21 players that were on the senior team were training with the senior team, playing senior matches and only returning to the Under 21 team a week or two before the Ulster Under 21 championship in March.

"That was the condition that I put at the very start when the county board approached me to see would I be interested in becoming Under 21 manager. However, senior management have refused to allow that, they want those players training with the senior team and they want them available for McKenna Cup and National League games.

"I just feel that as potential Under 21 manager, I couldn't prepare a team without having access to eight or nine members of the panel," he said.

It is understood the the county board had originally agreed to the conditions proposed by Brady only for the suggestion to be ruled out by senior manager Tom Carr.

"I'm disappointed that we couldn't reach an agreement on that condition but I feel that there is no way I could train a team and achieve the maximum potential of the team unless due consideration was given to the under 21 set-up," said Brady, who led Colmcille to their first Longford senior title in 50 years in his first managerial role last season.

"To me, you can't do that. That's just throwing everyone into a field and seeing what comes out of it without the organisation required."

Senior manager Tom Carr made little comment on the issue in an interview with The Anglo-Celt.

"I haven't heard and I'm not going to make a comment on it for something I don't know anything about or what way it has gone but certainly I did express my opinion to the county board on the way it should be done, but more than that I've nothing to say about it at this stage," he said.

Asked if his opinion was that the seniors should have first call on Under 21s, Carr stated that the issue was "not that cut and dry".

Meanwhile, the manager said that he is looking forward to getting back to work with the Cavan squad in the coming weeks.

"The next step is to get stuck in and start planning the training and put together all the bits and pieces, the backroom team and the various support staff," he said.

"I just think there is a good bit of stuff that we can cover that we didn't get to cover last year, and maybe get three months of work done that we weren't able to get done last year," said Carr, who confirmed that he will be naming a new panel in the coming weeks and there there will be some changes among his selectors
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on September 24, 2009, 07:54:31 PM
Fair play to him.

But why do senior management have to have U21 players in their team to the detrement of the U21s.  The only U21 on the team last year was Keating (I think?).  Surely there could have been some give and take?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on September 24, 2009, 08:04:36 PM
I suppose Carr wants his players available to mount a strong challenge in the league. I can see both sides of it. It's one of the reasons that I think the U-21s can be a bit of a nuisance grade. I think it's a bit unreasonable of Brady to demand that. Surely a bit of give and take is the only way to work it?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: space rabbit on September 24, 2009, 08:37:50 PM
Quote from: boojangles on September 24, 2009, 06:11:46 PM
Quote from: jimjim on September 24, 2009, 02:01:50 PM
Tis not the Dunder that one is after  ;D

Jesus that is scandalous stuff.


:D :D :D :D :D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on September 24, 2009, 09:46:20 PM
Suppose if you look for a model of how to run an Under 21 and Senior set up you have to look back to the McHugh era when we made an under 21 AIF while contesting and winning Ulster senior finals. Think he had the two panels working together but might stand corrected. McCabe, Peter Larry and Jason Reilly were playing at Senior level when they were Under 21 But in at least two cases might have paid a long term price in terms of injury problems.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: space rabbit on September 25, 2009, 08:20:40 AM
Quote from: anglocelt39 on September 24, 2009, 09:46:20 PM
Suppose if you look for a model of how to run an Under 21 and Senior set up you have to look back to the McHugh era when we made an under 21 AIF while contesting and winning Ulster senior finals. Think he had the two panels working together but might stand corrected. McCabe, Peter Larry and Jason Reilly were playing at Senior level when they were Under 21 But in at least two cases might have paid a long term price in terms of injury problems.

Every county will have a couple of players on both panels i dont think that has a factor in injuries.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on September 25, 2009, 08:45:30 AM
Quote from: space rabbit on September 25, 2009, 08:20:40 AM
Quote from: anglocelt39 on September 24, 2009, 09:46:20 PM
Suppose if you look for a model of how to run an Under 21 and Senior set up you have to look back to the McHugh era when we made an under 21 AIF while contesting and winning Ulster senior finals. Think he had the two panels working together but might stand corrected. McCabe, Peter Larry and Jason Reilly were playing at Senior level when they were Under 21 But in at least two cases might have paid a long term price in terms of injury problems.

Every county will have a couple of players on both panels i dont think that has a factor in injuries.


Agree but if you want an example of burnout Cavan style its worth having a look again at the tape of the 97 Ulster Final, McCabe in particular, for the remainder of his career he didn't move that freely very often. Peter Reilly-could apply the same comment to a lesser degree. As regards too much football too young lets not even talk about John Tierney.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: space rabbit on September 25, 2009, 09:05:05 AM
Quote from: anglocelt39 on September 25, 2009, 08:45:30 AM
Quote from: space rabbit on September 25, 2009, 08:20:40 AM
Quote from: anglocelt39 on September 24, 2009, 09:46:20 PM
Suppose if you look for a model of how to run an Under 21 and Senior set up you have to look back to the McHugh era when we made an under 21 AIF while contesting and winning Ulster senior finals. Think he had the two panels working together but might stand corrected. McCabe, Peter Larry and Jason Reilly were playing at Senior level when they were Under 21 But in at least two cases might have paid a long term price in terms of injury problems.

Every county will have a couple of players on both panels i dont think that has a factor in injuries.


Agree but if you want an example of burnout Cavan style its worth having a look again at the tape of the 97 Ulster Final, McCabe in particular, for the remainder of his career he didn't move that freely very often. Peter Reilly-could apply the same comment to a lesser degree. As regards too much football too young lets not even talk about John Tierney.

Them two had serious knee injuries that could happen to anyone anytime they walk out onto a football field.  It was a disgrace what was done to Tierney. Watters is another fellow that will have to be careful, what i heard earlier in summer he was going to be out for a long time and next thing he is playing around the middle of the field for Drung in Breffini Park.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: North Longford on September 25, 2009, 09:52:53 AM
Think Brady is right although I might be a bit biased. Next March or April when the U21's are beaten there will ony be one man to blame.........the trainer. He's a stickler for detail and if he believes there is a right way of training the team thats the way it will be done. If he allows ' a bit of give' then he is not doing it the way he sees fit. Why do it at all so.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on September 25, 2009, 10:07:17 AM
At this stage the priority in Cavan should be to win either an Ulster Minor Championship or an U-21 Ulster Championship.Everything has been put into the Senior set-up and nothing has come off it.I can see where Tommy Carr is coming from but in this case I think he is wrong.
Ciaran Brady IMO is the best local manager we have in the county and should have been given everything he wanted to make the U-21 team a success. Which would be more important to the overall development of football in Cavan- Promotion in the League or an U-21 Ulster Championship??? I know my answer. And thats why I think Tom Carr is wrong.
There are enough footballers in this county to fill a panel for the National League without using our U-21s.If an U-21 then is showing well enough then he can be brought in to the Senior set-up when the U-21 campaign is over. What U-21 player is that irreplaceable that can't be done without for the first few months of the year??? Keating,Givney???
None IMO.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: space rabbit on September 25, 2009, 11:46:39 AM
Quote from: Drung on September 25, 2009, 10:49:30 AM
Agree 100% Boojangles, you hit the nail on the head there.

QuotePretty courageous effort there Drung using an anonymous internet discussion board to get a bit of personalised tittle tattle going about a well known Cavan GAA Official. But sure if you're lucky she hasn't got any family posting on here who might invite you to a personal meeting to clarify things.

I didn't get anything going, someone else did and I just replied.
Anglocelt39, what is this big invitation to a meeting that you keep referring to?!
I'm serious here, did I miss something? ???

Angocelt39 i think you need to lay off Drung you seem to have issues with him and jump in where ever you can to have a go at him.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on September 25, 2009, 11:49:10 AM
You'd also have to factor in the fact that a U21 players will also be training with their college team for Sigerson/Trench Cup.  How many Cavan players did DCU have last year?  Who takes precedent for training?  College or County?

Its a pity that some accommodation could not be made between Ciaran Brady and Tommy Carr. Is Ciaran not some part of the senior set up?  If so, will there not be some friction in that set up now? 

Interesting times ahead.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on September 25, 2009, 12:34:07 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YHaUOFwvZrg


Hope the link works. Watch it and weep when you compare it to some of our championship performances in the last year or two. Man of the match performance from Dermot McCabe, nearly sure he was at Under 21` level the same year.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Maximus Marillius on September 25, 2009, 01:23:58 PM
The two points that never should have been....totally incompetent ref decides where the silverware went. The ifs and buts of football.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on September 25, 2009, 01:48:28 PM
Quote from: boojangles on September 25, 2009, 10:07:17 AM
At this stage the priority in Cavan should be to win either an Ulster Minor Championship or an U-21 Ulster Championship.Everything has been put into the Senior set-up and nothing has come off it.I can see where Tommy Carr is coming from but in this case I think he is wrong.
Ciaran Brady IMO is the best local manager we have in the county and should have been given everything he wanted to make the U-21 team a success. Which would be more important to the overall development of football in Cavan- Promotion in the League or an U-21 Ulster Championship??? I know my answer. And thats why I think Tom Carr is wrong.
There are enough footballers in this county to fill a panel for the National League without using our U-21s.If an U-21 then is showing well enough then he can be brought in to the Senior set-up when the U-21 campaign is over. What U-21 player is that irreplaceable that can't be done without for the first few months of the year??? Keating,Givney???
None IMO.
Excellently put. I agree and withdraw my previous comment.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on September 25, 2009, 05:37:09 PM
Quote from: Maximus Marillius on September 25, 2009, 01:23:58 PM
The two points that never should have been....totally incompetent ref decides where the silverware went. The ifs and buts of football.

how is the messiah Damien Cassidy getting on these days?
;)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on September 25, 2009, 05:37:31 PM
Quote from: boojangles on September 25, 2009, 10:07:17 AM
At this stage the priority in Cavan should be to win either an Ulster Minor Championship or an U-21 Ulster Championship.Everything has been put into the Senior set-up and nothing has come off it.I can see where Tommy Carr is coming from but in this case I think he is wrong.
Ciaran Brady IMO is the best local manager we have in the county and should have been given everything he wanted to make the U-21 team a success. Which would be more important to the overall development of football in Cavan- Promotion in the League or an U-21 Ulster Championship??? I know my answer. And thats why I think Tom Carr is wrong.
There are enough footballers in this county to fill a panel for the National League without using our U-21s.If an U-21 then is showing well enough then he can be brought in to the Senior set-up when the U-21 campaign is over. What U-21 player is that irreplaceable that can't be done without for the first few months of the year??? Keating,Givney???
None IMO.

well said,agree with all of that.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on September 25, 2009, 05:40:05 PM
As for the Hoganstand clowns making hints and quips about Maggie Farrelly's personal life.
Shes a lovely girl and one of the better referees in this county from what ive seen.
As Anglo Celt said,some lads are very tough making comments like these from behind aliases.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: space rabbit on September 25, 2009, 06:31:06 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on September 25, 2009, 05:40:05 PM
As for the Hoganstand clowns making hints and quips about Maggie Farrelly's personal life.
Shes a lovely girl and one of the better referees in this county from what ive seen.
As Anglo Celt said,some lads are very tough making comments like these from behind aliases.

She hasnt enough bottle to do the line in Breffini though.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on September 25, 2009, 07:19:34 PM
Them comments about Maggie are abit bould boyos ;D

Disappointed with regards to Brady's decision. To be honest I don't know a lot about him but I just hope the CB don't just leave it in the hands of the senior management now because one person turned it down. A separate team needs a separate manager. And surely there should be no ultimatums. A bit of give and take should be the way to go.

We all want to best for the u21's and seniors. And none of the u21's are a vital part of the senior set-up, although i can understand both managers problems. Nothing that couldn't be solved over a pint though!

Last year's u21's was a kind of half-arsed effort. I accept its a nightmare to organise with colleges and stuff as well as seniors but if the u21's trained once together mid-week and met on weekends from January - and trained with other teams on other nights - would that not suffice?

Some Colleges can be a bit stubborn  and at the end of the day a student cannot afford to lose the assistance of a scholarship.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BigMac on September 25, 2009, 10:59:33 PM
I completely with Ballyhaise Man, for anyone to discuss any aspect of Maggies life other than her refereeing duties and performances as a referee is a disgrace and you should be ashamed of yourselves. She is a sound lassie and also a good ref and it should be left at that.
On another note, hows all in cootehill for the final Celt Man or in Swadlinbar Swad Man?? I dont think ther is another poster here from Lavey or the bridge?? My predictions and wishes are Lavey and Bridge.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: jonb_cúl on September 26, 2009, 12:00:13 AM
anyone at the senior relg match this evening between Crosserlough & Ballinagh? any reports? Some local showdown i would be thinking.
As regards to the Maggie comments, those involved should hang their heads in shame.

As for the u21 situation, surely the wise people of our CB would look at the set ups in Tyrone, Kerry, Mayo etc and see what model works for them.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on September 26, 2009, 12:19:59 AM
She was a draw, think it was 1-10 a piece. So they will have to go at it again!

Glad to hear TC is thinking ahead to next year. This year is a big big year for everyone involved with the team.

Wonder what names he has on his 'players to call' list. And anyone know who is being added to the back-room team?!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on September 26, 2009, 10:23:09 AM
Quote from: put-it-up on September 26, 2009, 12:19:59 AM
She was a draw, think it was 1-10 a piece. So they will have to go at it again!

Glad to hear TC is thinking ahead to next year. This year is a big big year for everyone involved with the team.

Wonder what names he has on his 'players to call' list. And anyone know who is being added to the back-room team?!
Not being smart, but isn't that his job. I can't raise myself above the glass being half empty I'm afraid. This bullshit about not attending games as the Development Games is the way to go is bugging me big time.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Swadman on September 26, 2009, 10:25:17 AM
Quote from: space rabbit on September 25, 2009, 06:31:06 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on September 25, 2009, 05:40:05 PM
As for the hints and quips about Maggie Farrelly's personal life.
Shes a lovely girl and one of the better referees in this county

She hasn't enough bottle to do the line in Breffini though.
I have to agree strongly with BHM. I have watched Maggie ref a few times and she fair and consistant. She definitely has the bottle. In our c/ship game she sent off a C/Gaels midfielder for striking after consulting the linesman and later sent off one of our defenders for a (slightly) high challenge. She referees with a calmness you don't always see and seem to have the respect of all the players. (which cant be said of all our refs) Lets leave it there on the Maggie issue and refrain from snide remarks in future.
"Just the facts, mam"
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: space rabbit on September 26, 2009, 10:35:50 AM
Quote from: Swadman on September 26, 2009, 10:25:17 AM
Quote from: space rabbit on September 25, 2009, 06:31:06 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on September 25, 2009, 05:40:05 PM
As for the hints and quips about Maggie Farrelly's personal life.
Shes a lovely girl and one of the better referees in this county

She hasn't enough bottle to do the line in Breffini though.
I have to agree strongly with BHM. I have watched Maggie ref a few times and she fair and consistant. She definitely has the bottle. In our c/ship game she sent off a C/Gaels midfielder for striking after consulting the linesman and later sent off one of our defenders for a (slightly) high challenge. She referees with a calmness you don't always see and seem to have the respect of all the players. (which cant be said of all our refs) Lets leave it there on the Maggie issue and refrain from snide remarks in future.
"Just the facts, mam"

You obviously did see much of her in the park this year.  Lifting the flag and pointing one way and then the crowd roar and the flag goes the other way. Nothing challenges off the ball and crowd roar again and next thing flag goes up and she is telling tales.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: jonb_cúl on September 26, 2009, 10:47:21 AM
Quote from: space rabbit on September 26, 2009, 10:35:50 AM
Quote from: Swadman on September 26, 2009, 10:25:17 AM
Quote from: space rabbit on September 25, 2009, 06:31:06 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on September 25, 2009, 05:40:05 PM
As for the hints and quips about Maggie Farrelly's personal life.
Shes a lovely girl and one of the better referees in this county

She hasn't enough bottle to do the line in Breffini though.
I have to agree strongly with BHM. I have watched Maggie ref a few times and she fair and consistant. She definitely has the bottle. In our c/ship game she sent off a C/Gaels midfielder for striking after consulting the linesman and later sent off one of our defenders for a (slightly) high challenge. She referees with a calmness you don't always see and seem to have the respect of all the players. (which cant be said of all our refs) Lets leave it there on the Maggie issue and refrain from snide remarks in future.
"Just the facts, mam"

You obviously did see much of her in the park this year.  Lifting the flag and pointing one way and then the crowd roar and the flag goes the other way. Nothing challenges off the ball and crowd roar again and next thing flag goes up and she is telling tales.

I wasn't at the games you mention but if the linesperson raises the flag to communicate with the ref then they're only doing their job as an official, "telling tales" really!!!!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: space rabbit on September 26, 2009, 10:50:44 AM
Quote from: jonb_cúl on September 26, 2009, 10:47:21 AM
Quote from: space rabbit on September 26, 2009, 10:35:50 AM
Quote from: Swadman on September 26, 2009, 10:25:17 AM
Quote from: space rabbit on September 25, 2009, 06:31:06 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on September 25, 2009, 05:40:05 PM
As for the hints and quips about Maggie Farrelly's personal life.
Shes a lovely girl and one of the better referees in this county

She hasn't enough bottle to do the line in Breffini though.
I have to agree strongly with BHM. I have watched Maggie ref a few times and she fair and consistant. She definitely has the bottle. In our c/ship game she sent off a C/Gaels midfielder for striking after consulting the linesman and later sent off one of our defenders for a (slightly) high challenge. She referees with a calmness you don't always see and seem to have the respect of all the players. (which cant be said of all our refs) Lets leave it there on the Maggie issue and refrain from snide remarks in future.
"Just the facts, mam"

You obviously did see much of her in the park this year.  Lifting the flag and pointing one way and then the crowd roar and the flag goes the other way. Nothing challenges off the ball and crowd roar again and next thing flag goes up and she is telling tales.

I wasn't at the games you mention but if the linesperson raises the flag to communicate with the ref then they're only doing their job as an official, "telling tales" really!!!!

My point is that it was a nothing incident, just one player lying down to get another booked/Sent off.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: jonb_cúl on September 26, 2009, 10:57:04 AM
Fair enough Space Rabbit point taken, but with regards to the matches I have seen her ref I honestly think there is alot worst out there "trying" to ref!!!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: space rabbit on September 26, 2009, 10:59:48 AM
Quote from: jonb_cúl on September 26, 2009, 10:57:04 AM
Fair enough Space Rabbit point taken, but with regards to the matches I have seen her ref I honestly think there is alot worst out there "trying" to ref!!!

Yeah i agree she is a good enough ref.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: space rabbit on September 26, 2009, 12:01:28 PM
I hear Micheal Hannon is going to be racing a greyhound shortly, he is no Usain Bolt.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on September 26, 2009, 02:45:08 PM
Nice to see a bit of decency and common sense prevail and the comments about Maggie Farrelly get the thumbs down treatment from  the vast majority of posters. What does surprise me is the noticable silence from the poster that was responsible for probably the most prominent and tasteless contribution to that exchange.

Where is Drung, would you like to explain that moment of madness on the keyboard??????

My own guess is that he is busy putting together a few gags for Tommy Tiernan to use at his up and coming gig in a Jewish settlement. Anybody got any other suggestions?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: space rabbit on September 26, 2009, 03:30:39 PM
Mountnugent in bother for playing illegal players in junior C championship in Semi and Final.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: jonb_cúl on September 26, 2009, 03:42:05 PM
Whats the story with both CG & Gowna with regards to their punishments handed down by the CB, have either team appealed this? It will make a joke of the D1 league if you ask me (like it wasn't anyway!!). You will now have a tea finishing 5th place getting to a county final & with Gowna having to play teams at the bottom will also make a joke of proceedings down there too.
Surely both teams should have been punished in next years c/chip, for 2 reason this would make more sense (A.) The indents happened in this competition (B.) The punishment would be real "punishment".
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on September 26, 2009, 04:13:11 PM
Quote from: Lawrence of Knockbride on September 26, 2009, 10:23:09 AM
Quote from: put-it-up on September 26, 2009, 12:19:59 AM
She was a draw, think it was 1-10 a piece. So they will have to go at it again!

Glad to hear TC is thinking ahead to next year. This year is a big big year for everyone involved with the team.

Wonder what names he has on his 'players to call' list. And anyone know who is being added to the back-room team?!
Not being smart, but isn't that his job. I can't raise myself above the glass being half empty I'm afraid. This bullshit about not attending games as the Development Games is the way to go is bugging me big time.

Agree with you entirely with regards to not attending championship games. That is absolute b*llix in my eyes. If he is not at the finals tomorrow, I give up.

Don't agree with the sly comments about Maggie but I think she is a pretty poor ref - mind you if you saw some of the decisions down in Corlough today in Div 3, she would be made look like Pat McEnaney  ;D

PS: The should have gotten Mackey to race the greyhound! Although that might have destroyed the dogs confidence!!!!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: space rabbit on September 26, 2009, 05:51:00 PM
Quote from: put-it-up on September 26, 2009, 04:13:11 PM
Quote from: Lawrence of Knockbride on September 26, 2009, 10:23:09 AM
Quote from: put-it-up on September 26, 2009, 12:19:59 AM
She was a draw, think it was 1-10 a piece. So they will have to go at it again!

Glad to hear TC is thinking ahead to next year. This year is a big big year for everyone involved with the team.

Wonder what names he has on his 'players to call' list. And anyone know who is being added to the back-room team?!
Not being smart, but isn't that his job. I can't raise myself above the glass being half empty I'm afraid. This bullshit about not attending games as the Development Games is the way to go is bugging me big time.

Agree with you entirely with regards to not attending championship games. That is absolute b*llix in my eyes. If he is not at the finals tomorrow, I give up.

Don't agree with the sly comments about Maggie but I think she is a pretty poor ref - mind you if you saw some of the decisions down in Corlough today in Div 3, she would be made look like Pat McEnaney  ;D

PS: The should have gotten Mackey to race the greyhound! Although that might have destroyed the dogs confidence!!!!

He is to busy taking his clothes off somewhere.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on September 26, 2009, 06:00:11 PM
Put it Up, can you tell us what the result was in Corlough today and where does that leave things. Thanks in advance. Also, interesting to see the Killan Gaels amalgamation at Underage level. The Shamrocks would have been strong enough at Under 14 and 16 level for a few years, would they not be inclined to go it alone?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on September 26, 2009, 06:23:36 PM
Haha, good man space rabbit!

I'm not too sure on the actual score, I think it was 1-12 to 1-5. I know the margin was seven in the end anyway!

Corlough showed a lot of spirit and made a right good go of it, but our lot pulled away at the end.

Not too sure where the club stands now. I think that is us promoted but I dunno what way they are working the league this year - someone mentioned semi-finals?!?

Don't know who made the decision to amalgamate. Wouldn't be involved in any of them decisions :) I was surprised myself that they joined together because Bailieborough have won the last two U16 Division One Championships on their toblerone.
But then again, if the clubs have agreed to amalgamate for a few years, you can't not ask them one year just because you have a good team. We might need them next year to help make up a team - you just don't know.

Think there are only three Shercock lads starting on the team  but it will be a good experience for everyone involved - even subs that don't get on - to be involved in an occasion like that.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on September 26, 2009, 06:32:02 PM
Quote from: jonb_cúl on September 26, 2009, 03:42:05 PM
Whats the story with both CG & Gowna with regards to their punishments handed down by the CB, have either team appealed this? It will make a joke of the D1 league if you ask me (like it wasn't anyway!!). You will now have a tea finishing 5th place getting to a county final & with Gowna having to play teams at the bottom will also make a joke of proceedings down there too.
Surely both teams should have been punished in next years c/chip, for 2 reason this would make more sense (A.) The indents happened in this competition (B.) The punishment would be real "punishment".
Not sure about Gowna but I heard CG got their ban reduced to 8 weeks but are going to appeal it further to the Ulster Council.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on September 27, 2009, 09:18:58 AM
Tipping bit of a game Friday nite between Crosserlough and Ballinagh.Crosserlough owned the ball for periods but couldn't score. Only for a young lad Barry McKiernan they would have been bet.He kicked 3 super scores with the left and set up another 2.Think he is a brother of Paurics. Philip Smith aged 43 still doing it at Midfield.Whatever they feed that man,the rest of the county should be told ;D
Crosserlough were probably lucky to get the draw but if their forwards can click the next day they might just do it.
Niall McDermott is a real handful if given any space. But if he is marked well Ballinagh would be in trouble.

Best of Luck to all teams today.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on September 27, 2009, 08:26:35 PM
For those that don't know Lavey beat Cootehill (3-9 to 1-8) in the intermediate final and Swad beat B'Bridge in Junior (4-8 to 0-11).
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: space rabbit on September 27, 2009, 08:43:36 PM
Quote from: REDCOL on September 27, 2009, 08:31:57 PM
When I left the Park, the Bridge had won  :-\

Bridge wont be happy they were presented with the cup and sang and danced on the field  :D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on September 27, 2009, 08:45:30 PM
I just read it on teletext - my apologies to bridge. Was the score correct at least! :D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: space rabbit on September 27, 2009, 08:51:41 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on September 27, 2009, 08:45:30 PM
I just read it on teletext - my apologies to bridge. Was the score correct at least! :D

Can they do anything right  :D . 

Yeah that score sounds about right.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: jonb_cúl on September 27, 2009, 08:58:11 PM
anyone hear how the d2 minor semi final went today in ballyjamesduff?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on September 27, 2009, 09:59:41 PM
Two very one-sided finals today. Swad played some really nice football in the first half with some great score-taking but they had a soft centre which the 'bridge exploited late in the half with two great finishes to the net. In the second half they tightened up and didn't give Swad much chance and ran out worthy winners. Biggest laugh of the day giving Mulvey the MOTM award. It was hard to pick someone out but he neither deserved nor needed that award today.
Swad have a couple of good youngsters in Michael & Christopher Curran which is promising for them. Good to see McKiernan getting a late run although looking at his knee I was just hoping he'd stay out of any sort of challenge for the few minutes he was on.

Lavey won the intermediate comfortably in the end having the play the last 10 or so minutes with a man less. They got a couple of very fortunate goals but I think Darren Smith & Joey Jordan won their respective battles for the most part and that was the difference. I thought Shane Tierney looked a really good prospect in the corner with a couple of roastings handed out.
Comisserations to Celt Man and Swad Man.
Good to see Finbar Jordan togged out even if it was just for the sake of it.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: jonb_cúl on September 27, 2009, 10:11:43 PM
any sign of Thomas Carr in the park today?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on September 28, 2009, 01:13:08 AM
Quote from: jonb_cúl on September 27, 2009, 08:58:11 PM
anyone hear how the d2 minor semi final went today in ballyjamesduff?

Knockbride beat Castlerahan by about two or three points, I heard from a Lavey man who knows these things. Think they play Knockbnride in the final now.

Not posting much here lately but just want to say I'm also a bit dismayed that Ciaran Brady didn't get his way with the U21s. Boojangles had it spot on, there's no point investing the lion's share of resources into the seniors as they're going nowhere in a hurry, Cavan need to rebuild from the bottom up instead of worrying about our glorious seniors all the time. Heaven and earth has been moved for the seniors in recent years and we get damn all back in return. The seniors could get ample and adequate enough attention to keep them ticking over without pulling rank on the U21s who'd be better off in a healthy setup under Brady where there'd be some chance of actually competing.

And Tommy Carr not attending the hard-bite championship games in favour of watching meaningless development games where the commitment is debatable to say the least, well that beggars belief altogether. It's a big year for Tommy and this doesn't give me much confidence.

ac39 - I looked at those youtube clips of 1997. It'd break your heart.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: space rabbit on September 28, 2009, 09:57:34 AM
Lavey deserved their victory yesterday.  They were on top all over the field and made Cootehill look very poor. Lavey had a harder run to the final and these games would have stood to them.  Colm Smith is not County Standard on yesterdays perfomance but he was well marked and didnt have a whole pile of help.

In the Junior the bridge deserved the win, swad kicked a few lovely long range scores but the goals were the difference.  Felt sorry for the Swad sub keeper he was only on and was picking the ball out of the net.  Dont think he was at fault for any of the goals.  The man of the match was totally wrong.  Whoever picked it should be ashamed, Mulvey did very little the whole game and only really got on the ball in the last few minutes when the game was won. 
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: space rabbit on September 28, 2009, 11:32:16 AM
Keoghan had his buddy Martin McHugh and Jack O'Connor out on the town Saturday night.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on September 28, 2009, 12:03:38 PM
Quote from: space rabbit on September 28, 2009, 11:32:16 AM
Keoghan had his buddy Martin McHugh and Jack O'Connor out on the town Saturday night.

I was on the town with my friends, you don't hear me shouting about it :)

Really was not impressed with either final and found it hard to pick some one out that looked county standard.

Smith and Jordan from Lavey were the only ones that looked liked they would be worth a shot.

I am a big fan of McCutcheon and he would definetly get playing wing-back on my county team - but he looked like he was trying to run the ball into the goals himself yesterday.

Colm Smith is nowhere near ready for it yet either.

My heart went out to the Swad sub keeper,  I'd say when the rest of the lads got pints into them, they handed out a fair bit of guff :)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: space rabbit on September 28, 2009, 12:14:59 PM
Quote from: put-it-up on September 28, 2009, 12:03:38 PM
Quote from: space rabbit on September 28, 2009, 11:32:16 AM
Keoghan had his buddy Martin McHugh and Jack O'Connor out on the town Saturday night.

I was on the town with my friends, you don't hear me shouting about it :)

Good man you have friends.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on September 28, 2009, 12:21:47 PM
Quote from: space rabbit on September 28, 2009, 12:14:59 PM
Quote from: put-it-up on September 28, 2009, 12:03:38 PM
Quote from: space rabbit on September 28, 2009, 11:32:16 AM
Keoghan had his buddy Martin McHugh and Jack O'Connor out on the town Saturday night.

I was on the town with my friends, you don't hear me shouting about it :)

Good man you have friends.

Yeah I have a few. Whenever I go on the beer with them I will let you know from now on :)

Ah I am only messing, I am sure you have some too! What club are you from SR?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on September 28, 2009, 02:23:44 PM
Lord oh Lord we can't even get the MOTM Awards right in this County. Noel Mc Phillips or Mickey Fitz were the 2 outstanding men on the field.Neither put a foot wrong all day. Cunnigham gave Mulvey the run around in the 1st half.
Second decision wasnt quite as bad but I felt for the important job he did,Joey Jordan deserved it.Declan Murphy would have been in the running only for the sending off.
2 Poor finals but finals are rarely great spectacles.Goals win games and that was proven especially by the Bridge,who up until the 1st goal were very poor.
From the 4 teams it would be hard to pick out too many potential county men. Michael Cunnigham still has something to offer IMO. There wasnt anyone else in the Junior final.
Having watched alot of the Intermediate Championship Darren Smith definitely deserves a call-up andf if right is right he will get Intermediate Player of the Year.Joey and Stephen Jordan may also be worth a call.
I wouldn't envy Tommy Carr because the brutal truth is we do not have the footballers in Cavan to make any sort of a breakthrough.No midfielders,No Full-Back. He is aiming at Top 12 in the country,He is dreaming. But he will walk away at the end of next year with the cash in hand and Cavan football will still be no further on.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on September 28, 2009, 05:14:58 PM
Disagree with you about Joey Jordan being worth a call up boojangles,
Kevin Tierney destroyed him in the first half in the quarter final,He would be found out at IC level against real pace.
Stephen Jordan is well worth a shot at wing back or wing forward, as is Darren Smith at corner or full back.
Karl Duke is going to be a good one even if he didnt play aswell as ive seen him play yesterday(i think he could be still minor next year)
Stephen Tierney is a class act,who should be on the county under 21's next year IMO.
Kevin Brady is a very talented player but he has no consistency whatsoever
What do you think of Darren Jordan, Boojangles?worth a shot in McKenna Cup aswell?

Commiserations to Celt Man and Cootehill,but Celt Man just look at it this way,i know you're hurting and either drunk or hungover about now(know the feeling from last year :P),but,Lavey,Drumalee,Ballinagh all lost intermediate finals before they won one,
It was a good learning experience for an ever improving young team,who will be there or thereabouts next year again.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: space rabbit on September 28, 2009, 05:42:53 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on September 28, 2009, 05:14:58 PM


Commiserations to Celt Man and Cootehill,but Celt Man just look at it this way,i know you're hurting and either drunk or hungover about now(know the feeling from last year :P),but,Lavey,Drumalee,Ballinagh all lost intermediate finals before they won one,
It was a good learning experience for an ever improving young team,who will be there or thereabouts next year again.

McGahan  34/35
David McCarney 33 ?
Nulty 31
Brian Sherlock 31
Paul Mc Carney 30
Fox 33/34
Kelly 29/30
Christopher Sherlock 30
McCrudden 30



Lads like Smith, Hayes and Connolly will be about for a long time yet and are good players, but i dont think they have enough coming on to challenge for Intermediate in the near future. Yesterday was their big day out and unlucky for them they came up against a Lavey team who had better players all over the park. 



Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on September 28, 2009, 05:51:29 PM
Quote from: space rabbit on September 28, 2009, 05:42:53 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on September 28, 2009, 05:14:58 PM


Commiserations to Celt Man and Cootehill,but Celt Man just look at it this way,i know you're hurting and either drunk or hungover about now(know the feeling from last year :P),but,Lavey,Drumalee,Ballinagh all lost intermediate finals before they won one,
It was a good learning experience for an ever improving young team,who will be there or thereabouts next year again.

McGahan  34/35
David McCarney 33 ?
Nulty 31
Brian Sherlock 31
Paul Mc Carney 30
Fox 33/34
Kelly 29/30
Christopher Sherlock 30
McCrudden 30



Lads like Smith, Hayes and Connolly will be about for a long time yet and are good players, but i dont think they have enough coming on to challenge for Intermediate in the near future. Yesterday was their big day out and unlucky for them they came up against a Lavey team who had better players all over the park.
+
David Clegg
Mark Mullan
Eoin Roche
Sean Fitzpatrick are also good young players.
Plus Stephen Dempsey if hes able to give the commitment

alot of those lads you named have a few more years in them yet.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: space rabbit on September 28, 2009, 06:07:46 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on September 28, 2009, 05:51:29 PM
Quote from: space rabbit on September 28, 2009, 05:42:53 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on September 28, 2009, 05:14:58 PM


Commiserations to Celt Man and Cootehill,but Celt Man just look at it this way,i know you're hurting and either drunk or hungover about now(know the feeling from last year :P),but,Lavey,Drumalee,Ballinagh all lost intermediate finals before they won one,
It was a good learning experience for an ever improving young team,who will be there or thereabouts next year again.

McGahan  34/35
David McCarney 33 ?
Nulty 31
Brian Sherlock 31
Paul Mc Carney 30
Fox 33/34
Kelly 29/30
Christopher Sherlock 30
McCrudden 30



Lads like Smith, Hayes and Connolly will be about for a long time yet and are good players, but i dont think they have enough coming on to challenge for Intermediate in the near future. Yesterday was their big day out and unlucky for them they came up against a Lavey team who had better players all over the park.
+
David Clegg
Mark Mullan
Eoin Roche
Sean Fitzpatrick are also good young players.
Plus Stephen Dempsey if hes able to give the commitment

alot of those lads you named have a few more years in them yet.

Some of them would have a few years left alright and they may get back to a final, intermediate is very weak

Ballyhaise, Killeshandra, Crosserlough or Ballinagh would be the teams that i would expect to challenge next year.  Maybe Drumalee if they can get their act together.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Drung on September 28, 2009, 06:34:32 PM
QuoteNoel Mc Phillips or Mickey Fitz were the 2 outstanding men on the field.Neither put a foot wrong all day. Cunnigham gave Mulvey the run around in the 1st half.

Senan Flanagan was MOTM by a long way. He scored 1-4 (1-3 from play) and set up the second goal by winning a great ball around the middle from three Swad men and delivering a perfect pass.
I thought Mickey Fitzpatrick was very quiet actually!
Noel McP had a great game alright.
Michael Cunningham was good for a while but faded out of it.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on September 28, 2009, 06:39:01 PM
I'd have to disagree with you re Tom Carr Boojangles. I think he called it right when he said we're not going to win an All-Ireland but we have roughly the same ability as a lot of counties and it's just a matter of getting a motivated, focused and committed team. At Full-Back there's the possibiliy of Darren Rabbitte and Eoin Smith battling it out. Midfield is a definite problem as is corner-back but if we could just get everyone fit and playing for each other I don't think it's so gloomy. Unfortunately I do think the reality is that between the players' attitude and the management we currently have that there's not much ground for optimism.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on September 28, 2009, 07:14:51 PM
I made it to my first club game in a long time on Saturday where the leaguers played kingscourt. All I have to say is that if they are the top 2 teams in div 2 then the standard of football is very poor indeed.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on September 28, 2009, 08:04:00 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on September 28, 2009, 05:14:58 PM
Disagree with you about Joey Jordan being worth a call up boojangles,
Kevin Tierney destroyed him in the first half in the quarter final,He would be found out at IC level against real pace.
Stephen Jordan is well worth a shot at wing back or wing forward, as is Darren Smith at corner or full back.
Karl Duke is going to be a good one even if he didnt play aswell as ive seen him play yesterday(i think he could be still minor next year)
Stephen Tierney is a class act,who should be on the county under 21's next year IMO.
Kevin Brady is a very talented player but he has no consistency whatsoever
What do you think of Darren Jordan, Boojangles?worth a shot in McKenna Cup aswell?

Commiserations to Celt Man and Cootehill,but Celt Man just look at it this way,i know you're hurting and either drunk or hungover about now(know the feeling from last year :P),but,Lavey,Drumalee,Ballinagh all lost intermediate finals before they won one,
It was a good learning experience for an ever improving young team,who will be there or thereabouts next year again.

Lavey have some great talent coming through alright.Their Minors beat Drumalees last week in the Div.2 Semi. Karl Duke and Chris Conroy are Minor again next year.
Shane Tierney has definitely been the find of the year.He came off the bench in the play-off against ourselves to score 1-2,he scored a goal against yourselves BHMan and got a great goal yesterday.He has serious pace and can turn on a six pence.He has a lot going for him,he may be a bit greedy for my liking but he is definitely a fine prospect.
Darren Jordan looked very impressive in earlier rounds at Full-Forward,especially against Killeshandra and Ballyhaise but since then Hyland played him in a roving role. Having marked the lad,he is very small and would have to build himself up a lot but if he is Under 21 then he is worth a chance on that panel.
Kevin Brady if given space is a fine footballer.he looks the part but we have enough boys in Cavan who look the part IMO.He blows hot and cold too often.
Cootehill can come back stronger,but next year is a vital year for them.I was dissapointed in the way Cootehills so-called main men didnt perform at all. Space Rabbit has a point about their age profile while some of the younger lads BHMan named may not be up to it yet.
Lawrence up until last year I would have agreed with you about the talent in Cavan.I always felt we had the players that we could make the same kind of breakthrough as Monaghan or Wexford etc. But having watched quite alot of football and seen alot of our so-called main County men in action this summer,along with some of the potential footballers coming through it is very hard to be optimistic. Eoin Smith is the only potential Full-Back we have.Forget about Rabbitte. One of our midfielders has been operating at Full-Forward and his displays there wouldn't fill you with much hope.The displays of our other Midfielder were not much better either in any game I seen him.
Some former County men who have been off the panel for a while didnt seem to show too much either.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Mr. Pain on September 28, 2009, 11:59:56 PM
Thanks for the times
That youve given me
The memories are all in my mind
And now that weve come
To the end of our rainbow
Theres something
I must say out loud
Youre once, twice
Three times a lady
Yes youre once twice
Three times a lady

Yes, Booj you are three times a lady. Good job in the Junior final too.

Now that a weekend of finals has passed with probably the favourites winning each is there any way there can be a shock this Sunday? The Gaels are going to be hard to beat as usual. However, word is that Sean Reilly may not start and then Denn will probably take control of midfield. This will be interesting but the problem lies with the Gaels half-back line. They have to be stopped. It may sound that the Pain dawg has something against the Gaels. He doesn't. However, it would be nice to see a new winner, even if just to break the monotony. Rant over!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Swadman on September 29, 2009, 08:45:05 AM
Quote
Senan Flanagan was MOTM by a long way. He scored 1-4 (1-3 from play) and set up the second goal
Noel McP had a great game alright.
Michael Cunningham was good for a while but faded out of it.
I'm slowly coming around today but you are spot on. What "football genius" picked Mulvey as MOTM ??? Swad are dissapointed but not despondent. We knew going in that it was a big ask to play a final without our 2 first choice midfielders and when the goalie injured his knee in the last training session.... well, we had no illusions. Fair play to him for getting through the first half (nearly) We were 2 points up near the end of the 1st when he crumpled. I think we were always going to conceed goals as our defence are sive-like as a unit but I was surprised how well our makeshift midfield did against the vaunted Mulvey. Yes he caught a few balls near the end when the game was up.  I'd give the award to McPhillips (14) for his constant running into good positions and being a threat everytime he got ball.
I thought Mickey Lee did well except for no sanction on No7 who clearly headbutted within his view. Especially galling for us as J. Cunningham missed the final after getting red for an "attempted" butt.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Drung on September 29, 2009, 10:36:23 AM
My view of it was that both number sevens rubbed heads and the Swad man literally jumped to the ground theatrically wehn the Bridge man walked away. Should have been a yellow for acting, if such a rule exists.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on September 29, 2009, 11:09:39 AM
Space Rabbit, I was on the beer last night with some of my friends and lost my phone and my keys  >:(
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: space rabbit on September 29, 2009, 11:11:38 AM
Quote from: put-it-up on September 29, 2009, 11:09:39 AM
Space Rabbit, I was on the beer last night with some of my friends and lost my phone and my keys  >:(

What do you want me to do about it  :D

Only advise i can give you is to quit the drink!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on September 29, 2009, 11:16:47 AM
Quote from: Mr. Pain on September 28, 2009, 11:59:56 PM
Thanks for the times
That youve given me
The memories are all in my mind
And now that weve come
To the end of our rainbow
Theres something
I must say out loud
Youre once, twice
Three times a lady
Yes youre once twice
Three times a lady


Another enlightening rendition from our own Prince of Darkness. Randoms not the word. Three Times a Lady from Mr Pain,it just doesn't go does it?  Stick to the Culture Beat I say.

I think Drung has it right about the attempted headbutt in the Junior Final. There must have been a sniper in the stand.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on September 29, 2009, 11:23:13 AM
Quote from: space rabbit on September 29, 2009, 11:11:38 AM
Quote from: put-it-up on September 29, 2009, 11:09:39 AM
Space Rabbit, I was on the beer last night with some of my friends and lost my phone and my keys  >:(

What do you want me to do about it  :D

Only advise i can give you is to quit the drink!

Haha, just thought I'd tell you - you seem interested in that stuff!

Yeah advice taken on board... I am off it until Thursday :)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: space rabbit on September 29, 2009, 11:47:07 AM
Quote from: put-it-up on September 29, 2009, 11:23:13 AM
Quote from: space rabbit on September 29, 2009, 11:11:38 AM
Quote from: put-it-up on September 29, 2009, 11:09:39 AM
Space Rabbit, I was on the beer last night with some of my friends and lost my phone and my keys  >:(

What do you want me to do about it  :D

Only advise i can give you is to quit the drink!

Haha, just thought I'd tell you - you seem interested in that stuff!

Yeah advice taken on board... I am off it until Thursday :)

Students  ::)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on September 29, 2009, 01:25:24 PM
I'd have to agree with Boojangles and Drung on the headbutt incident. I was wondering why John Cunningham wasn't there. Anyway, very gracious in defeat Swadman. But I only remember Mulvey catching one ball.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on September 29, 2009, 04:32:48 PM
Quote from: space rabbit on September 29, 2009, 11:47:07 AM
Quote from: put-it-up on September 29, 2009, 11:23:13 AM
Quote from: space rabbit on September 29, 2009, 11:11:38 AM
Quote from: put-it-up on September 29, 2009, 11:09:39 AM
Space Rabbit, I was on the beer last night with some of my friends and lost my phone and my keys  >:(

What do you want me to do about it  :D

Only advise i can give you is to quit the drink!

Haha, just thought I'd tell you - you seem interested in that stuff!

Yeah advice taken on board... I am off it until Thursday :)

Students  ::)

No No, I'm a respectable business man! :)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: space rabbit on September 29, 2009, 04:34:30 PM
Quote from: put-it-up on September 29, 2009, 04:32:48 PM
Quote from: space rabbit on September 29, 2009, 11:47:07 AM
Quote from: put-it-up on September 29, 2009, 11:23:13 AM
Quote from: space rabbit on September 29, 2009, 11:11:38 AM
Quote from: put-it-up on September 29, 2009, 11:09:39 AM
Space Rabbit, I was on the beer last night with some of my friends and lost my phone and my keys  >:(

What do you want me to do about it  :D

Only advise i can give you is to quit the drink!

Haha, just thought I'd tell you - you seem interested in that stuff!

Yeah advice taken on board... I am off it until Thursday :)

Students  ::)

No No, I'm a respectable business man! :)

QuoteAbsolutely delighted I stumbled acrosst this thread

If I ever met her in The Imperial in Cavan, god only knows what I would do.

I'd lick mayonaise of her, and I don't even like mayo

Over the last week I have been workin my lectures around Countdown...haha
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on September 29, 2009, 05:07:47 PM
Are you stalkin me SR? haha

You got me :)

She is nice though, isn't she!

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on September 30, 2009, 12:42:33 PM
Ohhh where to start.... it just didn't happen for us on Sunday, without making excuses or taking away from Lavey, there was an awful lot of stage fright with us.  It's very disappointing, playing well the whole way to the final and then not preforming anywhere near how you could.

I thought we, without playing well, were well in the game at 5 all just before that first goal went in.  After that I was afraid we were in trouble.  It was as much in the way the goal went in.... two of our boys colliding on a nothing ball 45m out from goal, ball gets cleared off the line hits our keeper on the back of the leg... 5 boys in the square 4 cootehill defenders and the ball lands to the one lavey man there and he taps it in from point blank range.  When goals like that go in, it's generally not gonna be your day...

Having said all that, it was the second goal which killed us off, we got the first score after the break to bring it back to 2 points but the boy took that goal well and we were done after that. 

Fair play to Lavey though, wouldn't begrudge them the win at all and when you consider they have been missing finbarr jordan and maguire for the last few games it really was an impressive championship performance
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on September 30, 2009, 01:35:28 PM
Very gracious Celt Man. Unfortunately there were a number of Celts in the stand who weren't so gracious and were still roaring about the first Lavey goal being a square ball and the one you had disallowed as being a genuine goal.
Ah well, you'll get that.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on September 30, 2009, 02:10:39 PM
Quote from: Lawrence of Knockbride on September 30, 2009, 01:35:28 PM
Very gracious Celt Man. Unfortunately there were a number of Celts in the stand who weren't so gracious and were still roaring about the first Lavey goal being a square ball and the one you had disallowed as being a genuine goal.
Ah well, you'll get that.

Ahh yes, you will get that.  No doubt the same ones who were roaring on Sunday, won't be in Killinkere for our league game this Saturday...
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: LackenLegend on September 30, 2009, 11:24:13 PM
Well lads, what's the craic? I've been away a while and tried reading back through the pages but got fed up. I see there are a few new lads here too. I was at the county finals last weekend. Good enough stuff, although one sided. It's hard to see this weekend being different though i hope Denn can shock. What about the minor final. Who exactly are Killan Gaels? I'd say Ballyhaise would be strong.

Did any of ye see the preview the Celt did for the senior final? It's probably the best couple of pages i've ever seen in that paper. One of the articles is here: http://www.anglocelt.ie/sport/localgaa/articles/2009/09/30/391644-gaels-to-shade-epic/

What is the story with the Gaels and Gowna suspensions? Should the teams not just be deducted points at the start of next year as doing it this year affects relegation and table standings of other teams? The way it stands a team near the bottom could be saved by two points from Gowna while another team who Gowna beat earlier may go down. Doesn't seem just does it? I know it didn't help Ballyhaise before when Ballinagh got suspended.


Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on October 01, 2009, 01:33:01 PM
Quote from: LackenLegend on September 30, 2009, 11:24:13 PM
Well lads, what's the craic? I've been away a while and tried reading back through the pages but got fed up. I see there are a few new lads here too. I was at the county finals last weekend. Good enough stuff, although one sided. It's hard to see this weekend being different though i hope Denn can shock. What about the minor final. Who exactly are Killan Gaels? I'd say Ballyhaise would be strong.

Did any of ye see the preview the Celt did for the senior final? It's probably the best couple of pages i've ever seen in that paper. One of the articles is here: http://www.anglocelt.ie/sport/localgaa/articles/2009/09/30/391644-gaels-to-shade-epic/

What is the story with the Gaels and Gowna suspensions? Should the teams not just be deducted points at the start of next year as doing it this year affects relegation and table standings of other teams? The way it stands a team near the bottom could be saved by two points from Gowna while another team who Gowna beat earlier may go down. Doesn't seem just does it? I know it didn't help Ballyhaise before when Ballinagh got suspended.



Would it not be better to deduct them points this year and make them play their games so that nobody else is affected directly?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on October 01, 2009, 02:51:00 PM
I heard Terry Hyland has been offered the U21 job as well as becoming a selector with the seniors. Not 100% sure but would be fairly confident the person that i was talking too knows what they are on about.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on October 01, 2009, 06:59:10 PM
Terry is a good manager,and he would make a good job of the under 21's if hes given access to all the players,which im not hopeful is going to happen  >:(
If Carr doesnt backtrack on this,im expecting another first round exit for the under 21's
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on October 01, 2009, 08:40:58 PM

Bloody hell I come back after a few days away to see the board turn into a cross between Eastenders and the Graham Norton show. Boojangles, check out the full lyrics of the little ditty Monsieur Pain was dedicating to you. Now I like to think of myself as a broadminded sort but it may be a case of put the deadlocks on the door around Drumalee tonight. Pain, yer one quare hawk.



Thanks for the times
That youve given me
The memories are all in my mind
And now that weve come
To the end of our rainbow
Theres something
I must say out loud
Youre once, twice
Three times a lady
Yes youre once twice
Three times a lady

And I love you
When we are together
The moments I cherish
With every beat of my heart
To touch you to hold you
To feel you to need you
Theres nothing to keep us apart
Youre once twice
Three times a lady
And I love you
I love you
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on October 01, 2009, 11:35:28 PM
Quote from: anglocelt39 on October 01, 2009, 08:40:58 PM

Bloody hell I come back after a few days away to see the board turn into a cross between Eastenders and the Graham Norton show. Boojangles, check out the full lyrics of the little ditty Monsieur Pain was dedicating to you. Now I like to think of myself as a broadminded sort but it may be a case of put the deadlocks on the door around Drumalee tonight. Pain, yer one quare hawk.



Thanks for the times
That youve given me
The memories are all in my mind
And now that weve come
To the end of our rainbow
Theres something
I must say out loud
Youre once, twice
Three times a lady
Yes youre once twice
Three times a lady

And I love you
When we are together
The moments I cherish
With every beat of my heart
To touch you to hold you
To feel you to need you
Theres nothing to keep us apart
Youre once twice
Three times a lady
And I love you
I love you

Mr Pain knows where my fixed abode is ( isnt that right Mr Pain?)  so if he feels that strongly about me then he can come pay me a visit.I will try to let him down gently.  Maybe he can sing me his other Hit.

I know what I want and I want it now,I want you, cos Im Mr Pain.

And who said there was no Gays in the GAA!!!  God what will Space Rabbitt say!!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on October 02, 2009, 01:28:20 PM

2009 Football Rankings
Thursday, 1 October 2009 17:43

http://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/championship/gaa2009.html

by James McMahon

It's time for reflection now that the dust has settled. From those who frequent the many GAA function rooms, to the carefully parsed and analysed reflections of 'yer man' on the bar stool, while not forgetting the taxi drivers and the scribes, many opinions will abound as to the quality on offer from May to September.

It certainly was a season that ended with unlikely champions. That may sound a little far-fetched now, but for long periods of the summer, Kerry seemed to wallow in a mire of discontent. Their supporters turned up in Tullamore on 26 July for their qualifier match against Antrim to witness a wake for this current squad.

After that was the expected funeral on the August Bank Holiday Monday when Dublin, who saw off Kildare in a cracking Leinster final, were tipped by many to push on and leave a Kerry rabble in their slipstream. How did we get it so wrong? We should have known that the Kingdom with the sun on their backs at Headquarters in August would be a different animal. Yet, we refused to believe in their powers of recovery.

The Dubs certainly felt the force of the new found venom, as O'Connor's side ripped them to pieces - leaving Pat Gilroy to label his team 'startled earwigs.'

Kerry's All-Ireland success, and the manner in which they achieved it, was very much against type. If anything, Cork played the best football of the Championship, while Tyrone, in cruise control for most of the summer, found that the Rebel cause had a greater engine come the last four.

Division 4 teams enjoyed some fruitful days with Antrim reaching the Ulster final, Wicklow winning three Championship games; Sligo nearly sneaking past Kerry in Tralee and Limerick, who will be in the bottom tier in 2010, just running out of gas against Cork in the Munster final.

They were those like Wexford and Westmeath, who hit rock bottom in '09, while Meath found something within to rise above the nadir of their previous campaign. Mayo and Galway will feel as if they underachieved, and then there were those counties stuck in first gear - Laois, Down, Armagh, Fermanagh and Cavan - while others remained in neutral and sadly do not appear to be going anywhere fast.

In any event, here's the list -

1 Kerry:
2 Cork:
3 Tyrone:
4 Kildare:
5 Dublin:
6 Mayo:
7 Meath:
8 Galway:
9 Donegal:
10 Limerick
11 Antrim:
12 Wicklow:
13 Derry
14 Sligo
15 Down
16 Monaghan
17 Tipperary
18 Laois
19 Roscommon
20 Longford
21 Armagh
22 Louth:
23 Fermanagh
24 Cavan
25 Westmeath
26 Wexford
27 Offaly
28 Leitrim
29 Waterford
30 Clare
31 Carlow
32 London
33 New York

24th is about right unfortunately and the sad thing is we are not too good to slip even further down...  A few positions seem a wee bit OTT in my opinion: Armagh in 21st  I don't think so... Wicklow ahead of Derry??
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on October 02, 2009, 02:04:35 PM
I'm happy enough we're as high as 24. How are Mayo ahead of Meath can someone tell me?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on October 02, 2009, 03:44:18 PM
Quote from: Celt_Man on October 02, 2009, 01:28:20 PM

2009 Football Rankings
Thursday, 1 October 2009 17:43

http://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/championship/gaa2009.html

by James McMahon

It's time for reflection now that the dust has settled. From those who frequent the many GAA function rooms, to the carefully parsed and analysed reflections of 'yer man' on the bar stool, while not forgetting the taxi drivers and the scribes, many opinions will abound as to the quality on offer from May to September.

It certainly was a season that ended with unlikely champions. That may sound a little far-fetched now, but for long periods of the summer, Kerry seemed to wallow in a mire of discontent. Their supporters turned up in Tullamore on 26 July for their qualifier match against Antrim to witness a wake for this current squad.

After that was the expected funeral on the August Bank Holiday Monday when Dublin, who saw off Kildare in a cracking Leinster final, were tipped by many to push on and leave a Kerry rabble in their slipstream. How did we get it so wrong? We should have known that the Kingdom with the sun on their backs at Headquarters in August would be a different animal. Yet, we refused to believe in their powers of recovery.

The Dubs certainly felt the force of the new found venom, as O'Connor's side ripped them to pieces - leaving Pat Gilroy to label his team 'startled earwigs.'

Kerry's All-Ireland success, and the manner in which they achieved it, was very much against type. If anything, Cork played the best football of the Championship, while Tyrone, in cruise control for most of the summer, found that the Rebel cause had a greater engine come the last four.

Division 4 teams enjoyed some fruitful days with Antrim reaching the Ulster final, Wicklow winning three Championship games; Sligo nearly sneaking past Kerry in Tralee and Limerick, who will be in the bottom tier in 2010, just running out of gas against Cork in the Munster final.

They were those like Wexford and Westmeath, who hit rock bottom in '09, while Meath found something within to rise above the nadir of their previous campaign. Mayo and Galway will feel as if they underachieved, and then there were those counties stuck in first gear - Laois, Down, Armagh, Fermanagh and Cavan - while others remained in neutral and sadly do not appear to be going anywhere fast.

In any event, here's the list -

1 Kerry:
2 Cork:
3 Tyrone:
4 Kildare:
5 Dublin:
6 Mayo:
7 Meath:
8 Galway:
9 Donegal:
10 Limerick
11 Antrim:
12 Wicklow:
13 Derry
14 Sligo
15 Down
16 Monaghan
17 Tipperary
18 Laois
19 Roscommon
20 Longford
21 Armagh
22 Louth:
23 Fermanagh
24 Cavan
25 Westmeath
26 Wexford
27 Offaly
28 Leitrim
29 Waterford
30 Clare
31 Carlow
32 London
33 New York

24th is about right unfortunately and the sad thing is we are not too good to slip even further down...  A few positions seem a wee bit OTT in my opinion: Armagh in 21st  I don't think so... Wicklow ahead of Derry??

Antrim and Wicklow far too high.
we could make a case that we should be above Fermanagh and maybe Louth,but anyway we arent in the top 20 in the country thats for sure.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on October 02, 2009, 06:23:31 PM
Hyland is in, article up on the HS. Don't now alot about him bar he has a great tache :) I'm sure his knowledge of football in this county isn't too shabby either.

You reckon he will have his own backroom team now? Or will Lynch and Peter work with him?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on October 02, 2009, 06:29:20 PM
Quote from: put-it-up on October 02, 2009, 06:23:31 PM
Hyland is in, article up on the HS. Don't now alot about him bar he has a great tache :) I'm sure his knowledge of football in this county isn't too shabby either.

You reckon he will have his own backroom team now? Or will Lynch and Peter work with him?


Well Im glad that theres a fresh face in.I always thought a trainer and one selector wasnt enough.Terry should have a fair knowledge of club football having been around the block.He was also a selector before.Good to see that a man who is winning things at Club level being rewarded. Will there be a new Junior manager now or whats the story??
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on October 02, 2009, 11:05:57 PM
I hope whoever gets the Junior/Development squad,actually implements a training regime this year,No Fault on TH last year,because it wasnt his decision,but there were no organised training sessions for the juniors,just games,and when they came up against a well drilled Louth team,which were training as a unit, with and against their County senior team,we were found wanting with indeed a strong enough team.
Id much rather
under 21's be left alone,to prepare for their championship
and have the Junior and Senior panels train together.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on October 03, 2009, 07:27:46 PM
Any results from any of the league games today??? We beat Killinkere by a point 2 - 10 to 2 - 9, tough stuff by times.  Unbelievable wind made a balls of it in many ways
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on October 03, 2009, 07:54:23 PM
We hammered Cornafaen by about 15 points. Kingscourt beat Crosserlough well too.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on October 03, 2009, 09:19:20 PM
We beat Drumlane by 2 in Milltown.Wind played havoc as well.Its a very exposed pitch out there.
Anybody hear any word on Gowna being re-instated to Division 1???
Would agree with BH Mans view about the Junior team.The last 2 years there has been a half arsed effort put into it.I dunno who's fault that was but if something is worth doing, it is worth doing well. Like what was the point in playing lads who had already played Senior Inter-County football? Surely the Junior team should be a Development panel for lads who mite make Senior in a year or two.Not lads who had already failed to make it.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on October 03, 2009, 09:39:32 PM
Quote from: boojangles on October 03, 2009, 09:19:20 PM
We beat Drumlane by 2 in Milltown.Wind played havoc as well.Its a very exposed pitch out there.
Anybody hear any word on Gowna being re-instated to Division 1???
Would agree with BH Mans view about the Junior team.The last 2 years there has been a half arsed effort put into it.I dunno who's fault that was but if something is worth doing, it is worth doing well. Like what was the point in playing lads who had already played Senior Inter-County football? Surely the Junior team should be a Development panel for lads who mite make Senior in a year or two.Not lads who had already failed to make it.

You could argue the u21's were a half arsed effort too. Hopefully, this is a sign that both teams are to be taken more seriously. The current senior team has limited ability, we all know that, so it is important TC maximises their potential like Micko done in Wicklow and then tries to supplement the core of the squad with a few new faces to add to it to freshen up the scene and start something positive.

Agree with you entirely about the Junior team. It should be there for lads coming out of u21 or who are still u21 and of course there are always a few late developers in clubs that deserve a chance.

Last year, considering 14 of the starting team for the u21's were underage for the following year, would it not have made more sense to keep the nucleus of the squad together in the Junior competition to try and build on and improve for 2010? A few stronger, older players could have been added in to strengthen up the squad you know?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on October 04, 2009, 11:51:00 AM
All the results are on Aertel now. Anybody know why the Drumgoon v Knockbride game isn't shown? Was it played?
Also who are the amalgamation in the minor final today?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on October 04, 2009, 11:54:54 AM
Amalgamation is Bailieborough and Shercock Lawrence. Quite a good team between them but they played their league campaigns separately. Our lot won only one game i think and really struggled. This is the fourth year the amalgamation has taken place.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: RacingPost09 on October 04, 2009, 12:20:32 PM
Best of Luck to the four teams involved today!
I would love to see Killan Gaels and Denn winning!  ;D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on October 04, 2009, 07:08:27 PM
Quote from: put-it-up on October 04, 2009, 11:54:54 AM
Amalgamation is Bailieborough and Shercock Lawrence. Quite a good team between them but they played their league campaigns separately. Our lot won only one game i think and really struggled. This is the fourth year the amalgamation has taken place.

Would have to ask some questions about that Killan Gaels amalgamation.Correct me if Im wrong but did Bailieboro not win a Division 1 U-16 Championship 2 years ago? Shercock are also doing quite well at underage lately.I really don't know how that amalgamation was allowed TBH. Fair play to them today,they were by far the better team and it is great to see success going to that end of the county but the only way an amalgamation should be allowed to happen is if BOTH clubs are struggling to get numbers.That is not the case with Bailieboro and I don't think its the case with Shercock either.

In the Senior final-all I can say is there is no substitute for class and Cavan Gaels had it in abundance today with superb performances from Cathal Collins(My Man of the Match), Micky Lyng and Anthony Forde among others.The Gaels ability to hold possesion and always find a man with the ball was the main difference between the teams.
Fair play to Denn who put up a great fight and a great score but their lack of quality in a few areas was telling.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on October 04, 2009, 07:33:47 PM
I agree completely with your point on amalgamations Boojangles. It's not fair on the other clubs and it's not fair on the Balieboro & Shercock boys that are discarded to the subs bench.
Cathal Collins was everywhere in the first half of the senior game but Lyng was immense throughout. Every aspect of his game was outstanding. Did he get MOTM?
I was a little disappointed with Denn. They only really played with their usual passion for 5 minutes after they scored the penalty. I found it strange them putting Cahill on Johnston and he was handicapped by his early yellow card which he's had coming to him throughout the championship. I thought Hubert made a mess of a world of posession.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on October 04, 2009, 07:40:23 PM
Quote from: Lawrence of Knockbride on October 04, 2009, 07:33:47 PM
I agree completely with your point on amalgamations Boojangles. It's not fair on the other clubs and it's not fair on the Balieboro & Shercock boys that are discarded to the subs bench.
Cathal Collins was everywhere in the first half of the senior game but Lyng was immense throughout. Every aspect of his game was outstanding. Did he get MOTM?
I was a little disappointed with Denn. They only really played with their usual passion for 5 minutes after they scored the penalty. I found it strange them putting Cahill on Johnston and he was handicapped by his early yellow card which he's had coming to him throughout the championship. I thought Hubert made a mess of a world of posession.

Unsuprisingly Lyng got Man of the Match.he was immense,his goal was class and one point he got in the 2nd half was superb also.His passing though is what really sets him apart IMO.
Was strange that Cahill picked up Jelly but lets be honest who else could they have put on him.It obviously hindered Denn when he wasnt setting up attacks but they had to make a choice. Agree about Hubert,won a world of ball,won 2 scoreable frees but could have done so much more because he had the beating of his man.How he didnt give the ball inside in the 1st half was beyond me.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on October 04, 2009, 07:48:02 PM
I had to go.  And so we lost so everyone in Denn can blame me (as I said the team did well when I wasn't watching them).

As Bojangles said, there is no substitute for class.  In the first half, every ball that went past our 45 was scored.  Did CG have a wide in that 1st half?  Fair play to CG and I hope they do well in the Club Championship.  Will that game be held in Breffni as I think Cavan have home advantage?

We scored 2 11 and that would win most game but unfortunately this game was against CG and I know they slacked off a bit until we dame within 5 and they decided to stop messing around.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: shotstopper1 on October 05, 2009, 01:33:57 PM
Quote from: put-it-up on October 04, 2009, 11:54:54 AM
Amalgamation is Bailieborough and Shercock Lawrence. Quite a good team between them but they played their league campaigns separately. Our lot won only one game i think and really struggled. This is the fourth year the amalgamation has taken place.

The Bailieboro manager said in the Celt that the reason they had a poor league was due to players not being available for the league but subsequently they were available for the championship. Was this a ploy on their managements part so they'd be looked on more favourably when they proposed to amalgate with their neighbours?Also from looking through their players details on the programme they all seemed to have won at U 16 level, whether it be Div 1,2 or 3.The game itself was pretty poor with Killan being the better team , their forwards were more potent from play.Thought Carolan at no. 12 was MOM caused Ballyhaise lots of trouble.

On the senior final the gaels first have display has to have being the best display of football in Breffni in a long time,although if Denn forwards had to have taken their chances early on they would've caused the Gaels a lot more trouble.They had only 1 wide in that first half from Graham and kicked some marvellous points especially Johnston's first and 2 from Nelligan.Best of luck to them in Ulster.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on October 05, 2009, 05:50:45 PM
Our Minors were dissapointing,can have no complaints,Much the better team won,
SS was correct
David Carolan number 12 for Killan was the best player on the park by a country mile,how he didnt get MOM,i will never know

Putitup whats the deal with Niall Kelly,when i seen him at underage he looked like he was going to be an absolute star,i had bookmarked him down as a future key man on the county minors.While he still looks promising and done well yesterday,but is not moving aswell as he was even 2 years ago.
One element in particular,his inability to turn at any speed whatsoever.
Has he had injury problems?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on October 05, 2009, 05:57:22 PM
Cormac Nelligan would be 27/28 or am i mistaken?
I know he was on the panel years ago,but anytime ive seen CG this year he has been outstanding.
Fingers crossed,Michael Lyng doesnt pick up any injuries in the Ulster Club/ Sigerson this year
He was terrific yesterday,and seems to be back to his absolute best,his passing is sublime at times.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on October 05, 2009, 07:22:19 PM
Nelligan is 29 per the match programme which was brilliantly presented I must say.
Does anyone know why Gowna were playing at the weekend when they're supposed to be suspended? Did they successfully appeal?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on October 06, 2009, 11:42:01 AM
Quote from: Lawrence of Knockbride on October 05, 2009, 07:22:19 PM
Nelligan is 29 per the match programme which was brilliantly presented I must say.
Does anyone know why Gowna were playing at the weekend when they're supposed to be suspended? Did they successfully appeal?

Gowna being Gowna dictated to the County Board that because they had an appeal in,they were still entitled to play their games. Cavan Gaels probably should have done the same thing.

SS1-Big game against Drung this week? If yas win are yas safe??
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: jonb_cúl on October 06, 2009, 04:50:31 PM
I see the Ballinagh Crosserlough is going ahead in Breffni this friday after last sunday I'm looking forward to seeing an even enough contest, should be a classic!!!! Any truth that Mullahoran only gave a fraction of the gate back to the county board from the first game????

I wonder how the gaels will do now in Ulster & against st galls in the first round? for the sake of putting a bit of pride back in cavan football i hope the get a fair run!!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on October 06, 2009, 09:02:43 PM
It will certainly be interesting to see how a team that's streets ahead of the rest in Cavan gets on when faced with Ulster's best. Last year's win over St. Galls was certainly a surprise but unfortunately, the rest of the campaign was not.

What do people think of the view that Gaels teams of four years ago were actually better equipped for a run in Ulster than the present one? Just something I hear from time to time, I'd have no view on it myself.

Best of luck to the Gaels in the club championship, the whole county should put old allegiances aside and get behind them now. I assume that's what happens anyway!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on October 07, 2009, 12:31:48 AM
With No Ballinderry/Crossmaglen(the two teams that have beaten the Gaels the most in this competition,Correct me if im wrong)
The Gaels will never have a better chance to win an Ulster Club
In saying that,St Galls are a top quality outfit who are only 3/4 years removed from an All Ireland Club Final,if most of us were ranking the top 3 clubs in Ulster,a good percentage would have them at number 3 just behind the aforementioned Cross and B'derry.
Should be a titanic battle Sunday Week.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on October 07, 2009, 12:46:41 AM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on October 07, 2009, 12:31:48 AM
With No Ballinderry/Crossmaglen(the two teams that have beaten the Gaels the most in this competition,Correct me if im wrong)
The Gaels will never have a better chance to win an Ulster Club
In saying that,St Galls are a top quality outfit who are only 3/4 years removed from an All Ireland Club Final,if most of us were ranking the top 3 clubs in Ulster,a good percentage would have them at number 3 just behind the aforementioned Cross and B'derry.
Should be a titanic battle Sunday Week.

Would absolutely love to see the Gaels win on Sunday week and go on and give Ulster a good rattle... I think it would be a huge lift for Cavan football in a year where we could really do with it...

But imagine this - saying if Cavan Gaels went on to win the Ulster club championship - imagine how much Cavan would struggle, going on last year's league if we had no Johnston and Lyng (based on his form last Sunday too), in the NFL without the Gaels players... I know a lot has to go right for that to happen, just a thought
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on October 07, 2009, 12:55:34 AM

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Would absolutely love to see the Gaels win on Sunday week and go on and give Ulster a good rattle... I think it would be a huge lift for Cavan football in a year where we could really do with it...

But imagine this - saying if Cavan Gaels went on to win the Ulster club championship - imagine how much Cavan would struggle, going on last year's league if we had no Johnston and Lyng (based on his form last Sunday too), in the NFL without the Gaels players... I know a lot has to go right for that to happen, just a thought
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i see what you're saying,but sure it would only open up oppertunities for other lads
like Paddy Gumley etc who will be on the panel.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: jonb_cúl on October 07, 2009, 12:19:30 PM
I see the Gael backs will have to content with a former cavan "GREAT" :P when they meet St galls sunday week!! Good bless Rory Gallagher!!!!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: jonb_cúl on October 07, 2009, 12:28:19 PM
Quote from: cavanmaniac on October 06, 2009, 09:02:43 PM
It will certainly be interesting to see how a team that's streets ahead of the rest in Cavan gets on when faced with Ulster's best. Last year's win over St. Galls was certainly a surprise but unfortunately, the rest of the campaign was not.

What do people think of the view that Gaels teams of four years ago were actually better equipped for a run in Ulster than the present one? Just something I hear from time to time, I'd have no view on it myself.

Best of luck to the Gaels in the club championship, the whole county should put old allegiances aside and get behind them now. I assume that's what happens anyway!


My own view(after seeing them sunday) is that this current gaels team is the best all round unit of players they've had in some time, what in terms of how the work together from the back line, how lyng can get involved as a play-maker, their support play all over the pitch & how they can always manage to have a player on the over lap at all times. Having said that the st gall's game will be the bench marker for them to see how good of a team they really are.

Like i said in my earlier post, i really do hope they can do well for the sake of pride in cavan football.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on October 07, 2009, 04:47:46 PM
Quote from: jonb_cúl on October 07, 2009, 12:19:30 PM
I see the Gael backs will have to content with a former cavan "GREAT" :P when they meet St galls sunday week!! Good bless Rory Gallagher!!!!

Is he still knocking about??? Holy Jasus. He was a total waste of time in the Cavan jersey that's all I know anyway.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on October 07, 2009, 08:44:35 PM
Belated congratulations to Cavan Gaels, Lavey and Butlersbridge.

I would have been of the opinion last year the Gaels had dipped a bit from previous years but after witnessing the manner in which they tore through teams this year, I think they could have found something extra and may be ready to make a decent impression on the Ulster Championship. All the best to them.

We have to tackle the skin-towners again on Friday. Cracking match last time out which could of gone either way. We've been in commanding positions in all our relegation ties but just can't seem to get over the line. Hard to believe that this will be Ballinagh's 9th championship game. Please God we can do the business Friday and bate those bucking bumblebee baxtards!!... Sorry, nothing against Crosserlough... siege mentality and all that.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: CavanCola on October 07, 2009, 11:54:25 PM
Quote from: Homer on October 07, 2009, 08:44:35 PM

We have to tackle the skin-towners again on Friday. Cracking match last time out which could of gone either way. We've been in commanding positions in all our relegation ties but just can't seem to get over the line. Hard to believe that this will be Ballinagh's 9th championship game. Please God we can do the business Friday and bate those bucking bumblebee baxtards!!... Sorry, nothing against Crosserlough... siege mentality and all that.

Anyone any idea why Kilnaleck is referred to as Skin-town? Does it refer to the inclement weather (take the skin of you).. or is there something more sinister going on down there!

Quote from: jonb_cúl on October 06, 2009, 04:50:31 PM
I see the Ballinagh Crosserlough is going ahead in Breffni this friday after last sunday I'm looking forward to seeing an even enough contest, should be a classic!!!! Any truth that Mullahoran only gave a fraction of the gate back to the county board from the first game????


Always thought that Mullahoran were one of the big financial hitters in Cavan Football. Always have big name managers. Pascal Canavan, Justin McNulty, Tommy Dowd... No shortage of cash down there in Kilcogy.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on October 08, 2009, 10:22:41 AM
Good to see a few of the Golden Oldies back posting,thought we had lost yas! Homer and Cavan Cola.
Don't know about the rumours with the Mullahoran gate at the relegation match.I did hear that the County Board had to get a security man to transport the cash back to town after the game,there was that much of it. No wonder Mickedy blew it up early!!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: jonb_cúl on October 08, 2009, 11:04:09 AM
Quote from: cavanmaniac on October 07, 2009, 04:47:46 PM
Quote from: jonb_cúl on October 07, 2009, 12:19:30 PM
I see the Gael backs will have to content with a former cavan "GREAT" :P when they meet St galls sunday week!! Good bless Rory Gallagher!!!!

Is he still knocking about??? Holy Jasus. He was a total waste of time in the Cavan jersey that's all I know anyway.

He's doing the business up in Antrim anyhow, here's a report from their county final>

All too easy for St Gall's
ANTRIM SFC FINAL/St Gall's 2-20 Casement's 0-6: THE FINAL at Casement Park never rose above the standard of a challenge game as St Gall's dominated Portglenone.
After Rory Gallagher, the former Fermanagh and Cavan player, hit three points in the opening nine minutes the winners were on their way to the easiest of wins. They led by 0-11 to 0-3 at the break with the losers three points landed from frees by Gerard McAleese.
There was no relief for the challengers after the resumption with goals by CJ McGourty and Rory Gallagher leaving it just a matter of how many the holders would win by.
ST GALL'S: Ronan Gallagher; S Kennedy, A McClean, C Brady; T ONeill (0-2), A Healy, S Kelly; A Gallagher (0-2), S Burke; S Burke; K McGourty (0-1), Rory Gallagher (1-5, 0-2 frees), K McGourty (0-5); CJ McGourty (1-1), K Niblock (0-2), C Gallagher (0-1). Subs: S Burns (0-1, free) for Niblock (43 mins), P Veronica for Kelly (43 mins), D O'Haire for Rory Gallagher (49 mins), C O'Connor for Ronan Gallagher (51 mins), M Kelly for Kennedy (51 mins).
PORTGLENONE: B McCann; J Kearney, P Carey, A Kearney; K Rafferty, T Convery, J McKeever; M McCarry, N McKeever; M McAleese, O Doherty, M Graham; G McAleese (0-4, all frees), G McCrickard, K Madden (0-2). Subs: O Kelly for Rafferty (42 mins), J Storey for McCrickard (42 mins), P McAleese for J McKeever (50 mins), BJ Donnelly for Madden (60 mins).
Referee: B Toland (Lamh Dhearg).
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: PhilsJemmysField on October 08, 2009, 02:35:18 PM
Anybody know how many clubs has R Gallagher played with.

He must nearly have as many transfers as Robbie Keane at this stage
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on October 08, 2009, 02:53:58 PM
Ronan Gallagher; S Kennedy, A McClean, C Brady; T ONeill (0-2), A Healy, S Kelly; A Gallagher (0-2), S Burke; S Burke; K McGourty (0-1), Rory Gallagher (1-5, 0-2 frees), K McGourty (0-5); CJ McGourty (1-1), K Niblock (0-2), C Gallagher

Fermanagh Goalkeeper
Andy McClean and Colm Brady Antrim countymen
Terry O Neil and Sean Kelly Antrim Countymen
Aodan Gallagaher and Sean Burke Antrim countymen
Kieran McGourty,dont know if hes played for Antrim Senior Footballers,but alot of Antrim lads reckon hes the bets of the lot of the McGourtys.
Gallagher from Crosserlough
Kevin McGourty.
CJ
and Niblock.

thats a brilliant club team,dont know much about Kennedy,Healy and other Gallagher.
More i think about it,the more likely they will probably beat the Gaels,but who knows.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: jonb_cúl on October 08, 2009, 03:46:47 PM
Gallagher from Crosserlough ???
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on October 08, 2009, 10:57:12 PM
Quote from: jonb_cúl on October 08, 2009, 03:46:47 PM
Gallagher from Crosserlough ???

tongue in cheek remark jon,
remember Gallagher played all of about 4 games for Crosserlough the year he was with them.
You will get my extremely dry sense of humour once you're on here longer,dont worry  ;)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on October 09, 2009, 12:33:09 AM
Lads to liven this thing up a bit

Pick your senior and junior/development panels for next from what you have seen of the championship.
around the 30 players each mark.

Mine
Senior
Goalkeepers

James Reily(Drung)
Paddy Galligan(Killygarry)

Backs
Michael Hannon(Drumgoon)
Eoin Smith(Killygarry)
Eamon Reily(Cavan Gaels)
Gavin Duffy(Cavan Gaels)
Martin Cahill(Denn)
Darren Smith(Lavey)
Gary Fernacombe(Drumalee)
Dermot Sheridan(Mullahoran)
Pauric Cahill(Killygarry)
Ronan Flanagan(Castlerahan)
Oisin Minagh(Redhills)
John McCutcheon(Cootehill)
Padraig Reily(Ballinagh)
Keith Fannin(Drumgoon)
Gunner(Mullahoran)

Midfielders
Tomas Corr(Denn)
Sean Reily(Cavan Gaels)i know he has a discipline problem,but i think that could be worked on.
Thomas Reily(Killeshandra)
David Givney(Mountnugent)

Gearoid McKiernan
Forwards
Michael Lyng(Cavan Gaels)
Sean Johnston(Cavan Gaels)
Cormac Nelligan(Cavan Gaels)
Cian Mackey(Castlerahan)
Ray Cullivan(Ballyhaise)
Declan McKiernan(Killeshandra)
Gerard Pierson(Gowna)
Paddy Gumley(Redhills)
Ray Galligan(Lacken)
Brendan Fitzpatrick(Belturbet)
Martin Reily(Killygarry)

ommissions include
Rory Dunne-probably worth another go at wing back.
Ciaran Galligan-not at midfield,but i would like to see him tried at full forward,theres potential there and hes only 24,he can be worked on.
Larry
Jason
Two legends who have entertained us for the last 15 years,but i think its time to start afresh.

Nicholas Walsh-If he could be effective at full forward then he should be on,but i have my doubts
Eugene Keating-wasnt good last year at all except against Down,lots of potential but i think he should struggle to make the panel.
Michael Brides-great servant,but the legs just arent there anymore
Lorcan Mulvey
Barry Watters(if he could stay fit he would be on the panel)
All Good footballers in my opinion,but most should be struggling to make the panel.


Development panel

Goalkeepers
David Clegg(Cootehill)
Fintan Reily(Redhills)

Backs
Declan Reily(Baileborough)
Barry Kelly(Ballyhaise)
Enda McCormack(Drumalee)
Kevin Donohoe(Drumalee)
John Gurhy(Cavan Gaels)
John O Dowd(Drumlane)
Daniel Graham(Cavan Gaels)-i think hes improved alot this year
Stephen Jordan(Lavey)
Damien Barkey(Ramor)
Patrick Carroll(Ballinagh)
Niall Reily(Ballinagh)
Jonathon Higgins(Belturbet)

Midfield-some could play in the forwards aswell
Alan Durkan(Ballinagh)
Trevor Crowe(Lacken)he seems willing to play for the juniors
Damien Smith(Lavey) Raw but has potential
Shane Cole(Ramor)
Gearoid McKiernan(Swad)

Forwards
Eoin McGuigan(Belturbet)
Sean Og Gargan
Mark McKeown( both Kingscourt)
Darren Jordan(Lavey)
Jack Brady(Ramor)
Niall McDermott(Ballinagh)
Paddy Byrd(Baileborough)
Michael Cunningham(Swad)-still has much to offer senior team IMO,but he should at least be on this panel at the start of the year.
Christopher Curran(Swad) if hes not still on Man U's books

left out a couple of my clubmates who i think should get a trial including

Brendan Lyons
Eamon Costello
Colm Reily(Junior panel which he was on last year)
Fergal Slowey etc
and more but im not really impartial when it comes to that so i left most of them out.

what are the opinions?
Who do you think out of all the players i named should be on the panel or shouldnt be anywhere near it?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: CC1 on October 09, 2009, 08:29:01 AM
I think Curran is playing for Forest Green in the Conference at the moment. So I would doubt he would be available.

I notice you've omitted Kevin Brady (Lavey) from those panels BHM, I think he should be a certainty. Any time I've played against him he has always been head and shoulders above any player on the pitch. He looks to have done very well in the intermediate championship too with 2-2 in the final. Definately worth a call up.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on October 09, 2009, 12:20:43 PM
Good work BH Man. Some I wouldn't agree on TBH and think you were a bit harsh on your own club.Fergal Slowey and Eamon Costello should be at least part of the Development panel-IF there is goin to be such a thing-Big IF I would say. ::) ::)

Some names I would add to the list-Be it senior or Development Panel-Looking at some club games it was very hard to tell the County Seniors from the Club footballers.

Colin Lynch- Crosserlough
Pauric and Barry McKiernan- Crosserlough
Colin Kiernan-Denn
Colm Smith-Cootehill (if available)
Ciaran Sheils -Mullahoran
David Finnegan- Ballinagh
Cillian Reilly-Killeshandra
Dane O Dowd (Drumlane)

I will think of more but thats off the top of my head
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on October 09, 2009, 01:25:24 PM
Quote from: boojangles on October 09, 2009, 12:20:43 PM
Good work BH Man. Some I wouldn't agree on TBH and think you were a bit harsh on your own club.Fergal Slowey and Eamon Costello should be at least part of the Development panel-IF there is goin to be such a thing-Big IF I would say. ::) ::)

Some names I would add to the list-Be it senior or Development Panel-Looking at some club games it was very hard to tell the County Seniors from the Club footballers.

Colin Lynch- Crosserlough
Pauric and Barry McKiernan- Crosserlough
Colin Kiernan-Denn
Colm Smith-Cootehill (if available)
Ciaran Sheils -Mullahoran
David Finnegan- Ballinagh
Cillian Reilly-Killeshandra
Dane O Dowd (Drumlane)

I will think of more but thats off the top of my head
Good call on Kiernan and Reilly Boojangles. Nobody has Finbar Jordan in either. And BH man what's your ginger corner back called again? I liked the look of him-as a corner back I mean. :-*
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on October 09, 2009, 03:38:59 PM
The weather is awful here at the minute.  Hope it clears up for tonight.  Has the makings of an exciting game>
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: jonb_cúl on October 09, 2009, 03:56:11 PM
according to the forecast its due to clear up for early evening, its looks to be heading that way already from where i'm typing here!!!! Yea should be an exciting evening alright, i wonder will there be a bigger crowd tonight.

Heard somewhere that crosserlough are the longest serving senior side in ulster!!! :o

I see Flanagan played there Wednesday night for ulster in armagh, anyone hear of any other cavan player playing or on the bench?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on October 10, 2009, 10:48:42 AM
Well lads!

BHM man, sorry only getting back to you now with regards to Niall Kelly. The fella technically would be one of the best our club has ever produced but it is fairly obvious he is not in peak physical condition. I think if he had have made the county minor panel this year that would have sorted him out but management didnt want to take a chance on him. He is definetly in the best three free-takers in the county. Scored a few lovely ones last night in the Junior Final.

Hope he gets fit and hits the ground running next year, still has the potential to be very, very good and our club needs him.

Crosserlough won last night 1-09 to 9 and Bailieborogh won the Junior C by 2-5 to 2-2 against Killinkere.

Been talking to a few lads and I hear the county are getting their house in order which is good to hear. Apparently they are going to be doing a lot of boxing trainin and I think there was a trial game during the week. Haven't a clue who was playing now or anything like that.

Also after all the shite about the regional games, I dont even think they are running them this year! Can anyone confirm that?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on October 10, 2009, 12:15:26 PM
Unfortunately there has been another tragedy in Cavan GAA circles lads....

young Cristopher Shiels from Ramor and one of the better players for the county minors this year died last night in a car accident from what I am told.

May I extend my sympathies to the family and everyone in his club. Knew the fella quite well and he was as sound as can be.


In the long-term he is a big loss to Cavan football and cant imagine what his close friends and family are going through at the minute.

RIP man.

Ar dheis Dé go raibh a anam
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on October 10, 2009, 01:00:49 PM
Quote from: put-it-up on October 10, 2009, 12:15:26 PM
Unfortunately there has been another tragedy in Cavan GAA circles lads....

young Cristopher Shiels from Ramor and one of the better players for the county minors this year died last night in a car accident from what I am told.

May I extend my sympathies to the family and everyone in his club. Knew the fella quite well and he was as sound as can be.


In the long-term he is a big loss to Cavan football and cant imagine what his close friends and family are going through at the minute.

RIP man.

Ar dheis Dé go raibh a anam
Nothing on the news as yet but that is terrible indeed.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on October 10, 2009, 01:26:26 PM
It's on Aertel now...

I was praying it wasn't true but that confirms it. Spoke to one of his closer friends aswell....

Such a horrible thing to happen..
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on October 10, 2009, 02:06:55 PM
Another terrible tragedy on our roads and within Cavan GAA circles. My thoughts are with his family and friends.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tierworker blue on October 10, 2009, 03:26:53 PM
Rip. Thoughts with his family and friends.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on October 11, 2009, 05:43:59 PM
An awful tragedy.may he Rest in Peace.Another sad loss of a young life and a sad loss to his club and Cavan football.

Denn beat Mullahoran in the League in Crosskeys today by 4.Very narky game,where any one of 4 or 5 could have got gate.In the end only the Bauld Eddie got the line for an an awful high elbow on David McKiernan,Lucky he didnt break his jaw.
Denn are still in with a chance of staying up,They need to beat Crosserlough next week.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on October 11, 2009, 06:02:26 PM
Quote from: boojangles on October 11, 2009, 05:43:59 PM
An awful tragedy.may he Rest in Peace.Another sad loss of a young life and a sad loss to his club and Cavan football.

Denn beat Mullahoran in the League in Crosskeys today by 4.Very narky game,where any one of 4 or 5 could have got gate.In the end only the Bauld Eddie got the line for an an awful high elbow on David McKiernan,Lucky he didnt break his jaw.
Denn are still in with a chance of staying up,They need to beat Crosserlough next week.
I hope Denn stay up after the year they've had.
I think the Divsion 2 promotion race is over with Cootehill beatink Knockbride. As far as I know that's Kingscourt and Killeshandra up.
The Gunner won the World Hanball Championship for the third year running in Portland yesterday. Great achievement.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on October 11, 2009, 08:10:49 PM
So we still have a hope? 

I thought it was too little too late?  Wasn't at the game but as Bojangles said it was rather like bad blood rather than Narky.  Are Crosserlough safe?  Could it be a dead rubber for them?  Don't fancy it in their back yard.


Hope springs eternal though.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on October 11, 2009, 10:14:49 PM
Quote from: Denn Forever on October 11, 2009, 08:10:49 PM
So we still have a hope? 

I thought it was too little too late?  Wasn't at the game but as Bojangles said it was rather like bad blood rather than Narky.  Are Crosserlough safe?  Could it be a dead rubber for them?  Don't fancy it in their back yard.


Hope springs eternal though.

Bad blood surely.There will be a few more scores to settle the next time these two teams meet too.
Having seen Mullahoran a few times this year,I would worry for them.They may go through a few lean years.Have a few Minors coming through but think it may be a while before a few of them are ready for Senior football.They have no Forwards coming through,with Paddy Brady not showing anything like the potential he showed when he first came onto the scene.

Crosserlough are not safe-They have 6 points.Lavey are also on 6 points and I think Cuchullains are still not safe either. Denn have to win their last 2 games to survive I believe.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on October 11, 2009, 10:22:44 PM
I thought I read that Lavey's win last weekend made them safe. It was only a headline so I/it could be wrong.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on October 12, 2009, 11:33:19 AM
Quote from: Lawrence of Knockbride on October 11, 2009, 10:22:44 PM
I thought I read that Lavey's win last weekend made them safe. It was only a headline so I/it could be wrong.

I seen that headline too.was for their game against Ramor.I was talking to a Crosserlough man at the game and he said that Lavey still werent safe.They need another point I think.I also seen Seamus Donohoe and the Lavey contingent in Crosskeys.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on October 12, 2009, 12:46:15 PM
I also seen Seamus Donohoe

Seamus now lives in Denn (Blackbull) so maybe he was just on a Day out with the family.  Maybe not though.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: shotstopper1 on October 12, 2009, 01:11:48 PM
bottom Div 1
             P         Pts
Lavey    11         8
Ballinagh   11       8
Clough    11        6
CuCu's    11        6
Denn      11        4
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Blue06 on October 12, 2009, 01:30:34 PM
bottom Div 1
             P         Pts
Lavey    12         8
Ballinagh   11       8
Clough    11        6
CuCu's    11        6
Denn      11        4

Games left in relegation battle

Killygarry v Ballinagh
Crosserlough v Denn
CuCus v Cavan Gaels

Final Round

Denn v Killygarry
Ballinagh v CuCus
Gowna v Crosserlough*
Lavey v Redhills

* Do the Lough automatically get the points here?

It is possible that all five could end up on 8 points.





Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on October 12, 2009, 02:35:12 PM
Allianz GAA National Football League 2010

06.02.2010 (Sat)

Allianz GAA National Football League

07.02.010 (Sun)
(All games at 2.30pm unless otherwise stated)

Offaly v Fermanagh
Louth v Wexford 
Roscommon v Cavan
Antrim v Sligo (2.00pm)

13.02.2010 (Sat)
(All games at 7.30pm unless otherwise stated)
Round 2

Fermanagh v Roscommon
Cavan v Antrim

14.02.2010 (Sun)
(All games at 2.30pm unless otherwise stated)
Round 2

Wexford v Offaly
Sligo v Louth

06.03.2010 (Sat)
(All games at 7.30pm unless otherwise stated)
Round 3

Antrim v Fermanagh

07.03.2010 (Sun)
(All games at 2.30pm unless otherwise stated)

Round 3

Wexford v Sligo (1.00pm)
Offaly v Roscommon
Louth v Cavan

13.03.2010 (Sat)
(All games at 7.30pm unless otherwise stated)
Round 4

Cavan v Wexford

14.03.2010 (Sun)
(All games at 2.30pm unless otherwise stated)

Sligo v Offaly
Roscommon v Antrim
Fermanagh v Louth

21.03.2010 (Sun)
(All games at 2.30pm unless otherwise stated)

Wexford v Fermanagh
Offaly v Antrim
Louth v Roscommon
Sligo v Cavan

27.03.2010 (Sat)
(All games at 7.30pm unless otherwise stated)
Round 6

Antrim v Louth
Cavan v Offaly

28.03.2010 (Sun)
(All games at 2.30pm unless otherwise stated)
Round 6

Roscommon v Wexford
Fermanagh v Sligo

11.04.09 (Sun)
(All games at 2.30pm unless otherwise stated)

Round 7 [Final Round]

Wexford v Antrim
Offaly v Louth
Cavan v Fermanagh
Sligo v Roscommon

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on October 12, 2009, 06:19:22 PM
Excellent. No big journeys. I guess I'll renew the season ticket.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on October 12, 2009, 09:22:51 PM
great draw as right Lawrence
we will have big Travelling support at all of them away games if the team is going anyway well.
Also we have 4 home games and 3 away for the first time in a fair few years.

Rossies
Louth
Sligo away

and Fermanagh
Wexford
Offaly
Antrim at home.
Dont think it could have worked out any better.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on October 12, 2009, 10:18:20 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on October 12, 2009, 09:22:51 PM
great draw as right Lawrence
we will have big Travelling support at all of them away games if the team is going anyway well.
Also we have 4 home games and 3 away for the first time in a fair few years.

Rossies
Louth
Sligo away

and Fermanagh
Wexford
Offaly
Antrim at home.
Dont think it could have worked out any better.

Wouldn't mind one good journey away.We used to get a good night away at some of the away league games staying in spots like Dungarvan,Clonmel and Wexford.Some crack turning up to the matches still half cut. ;D
Maybe Sligo this year.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on October 12, 2009, 10:28:34 PM
Quote from: boojangles on October 12, 2009, 10:18:20 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on October 12, 2009, 09:22:51 PM
great draw as right Lawrence
we will have big Travelling support at all of them away games if the team is going anyway well.
Also we have 4 home games and 3 away for the first time in a fair few years.

Rossies
Louth
Sligo away

and Fermanagh
Wexford
Offaly
Antrim at home.
Dont think it could have worked out any better.

Wouldn't mind one good journey away.We used to get a good night away at some of the away league games staying in spots like Dungarvan,Clonmel and Wexford.Some crack turning up to the matches still half cut. ;D
Maybe Sligo this year.

i hope thats when you were supporting them and NOT on the panel!!!  :D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on October 13, 2009, 12:20:40 AM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on October 12, 2009, 10:28:34 PM
Quote from: boojangles on October 12, 2009, 10:18:20 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on October 12, 2009, 09:22:51 PM
great draw as right Lawrence
we will have big Travelling support at all of them away games if the team is going anyway well.
Also we have 4 home games and 3 away for the first time in a fair few years.

Rossies
Louth
Sligo away

and Fermanagh
Wexford
Offaly
Antrim at home.
Dont think it could have worked out any better.

Wouldn't mind one good journey away.We used to get a good night away at some of the away league games staying in spots like Dungarvan,Clonmel and Wexford.Some crack turning up to the matches still half cut. ;D
Maybe Sligo this year.

i hope thats when you were supporting them and NOT on the panel!!!  :D

I was never on the panel BH Man.
I used to b a great supporter in them days.Would travel anywher.Nowadays I just couldn't be arsed.Too many bad days.Cavan football would definitely knock the edges of ya.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on October 13, 2009, 01:35:13 AM
Quote from: boojangles on October 13, 2009, 12:20:40 AM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on October 12, 2009, 10:28:34 PM
Quote from: boojangles on October 12, 2009, 10:18:20 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on October 12, 2009, 09:22:51 PM
great draw as right Lawrence
we will have big Travelling support at all of them away games if the team is going anyway well.
Also we have 4 home games and 3 away for the first time in a fair few years.

Rossies
Louth
Sligo away

and Fermanagh
Wexford
Offaly
Antrim at home.
Dont think it could have worked out any better.

Wouldn't mind one good journey away.We used to get a good night away at some of the away league games staying in spots like Dungarvan,Clonmel and Wexford.Some crack turning up to the matches still half cut. ;D
Maybe Sligo this year.

i hope thats when you were supporting them and NOT on the panel!!!  :D

I was never on the panel BH Man.
I used to b a great supporter in them days.Would travel anywher.Nowadays I just couldn't be arsed.Too many bad days.Cavan football would definitely knock the edges of ya.

I thought you were that one year,but enough about that as any more discussion will just out who you are to anyone watching.
Understand how you feel,i remember travelling down to see Cavan in Pairc I Rinn against Cork in the league when i was younger, to see Cavan put in an absolutely atrocious performance.
Couldnt see myself going anywhere south of Offaly to watch them at present.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on October 13, 2009, 11:31:49 AM
The Draw for the Under 21 Championship was made last night... a few interesting games there

Hotel Kilmore Under 21 Championship Division 1
St Joseph's v Slieve Glah Gaels Team 1
West Cavan Gaels v Cavan Gaels Team 2
Kingscourt v Redbridge Team 3
Ballinagh v Gowna Team 4
Lacken v Castlerahan Team 5
Crosserlough v Munterconnacht-Ramor Team 6
Cuchulainns v Belturbet Team 7
St Finbarrs v Mullahoran Team 8

Quarter Finals:

Team 8 v Team 7
Team 5 v Team 3
Team 6 v Team 4
Team 2 v Team 1

Hotel Kilmore Under 21 Championship Division 2
Laragh Utd v Shannon Gaels Team 1
Mountnugent v Lavey Team 2
Drumlane v Knockbride Team 3
Drumgoon v Shercock Team 4
Bailieboro v Cootehill Team 5
Ballyhaise v Drumalee Team 6

Quarter Finals:

Cornafean v Team 6
Team 5 v Killinkere
Team 1 v Team 2
Team 4 v Team 3

First name team has home advantage up to and including Quarter Finals

Extra Time if two teams agree with referee.

Hotel Kilmore Under 21 championship fixtures:

First Round: Weekend 06th Nov - 08th Nov
Quarter-finals: Weekend 13th Nov - 15th Nov
Semi-finals: Weekend 20th Nov - 22nd Nov
Finals: Weekend of 27thNov - 29th Nov
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on October 13, 2009, 01:55:33 PM
Quote from: Celt_Man on October 13, 2009, 11:31:49 AM
The Draw for the Under 21 Championship was made last night... a few interesting games there

Hotel Kilmore Under 21 Championship Division 2
Laragh Utd v Shannon Gaels Team 1
Mountnugent v Lavey Team 2
Drumlane v Knockbride Team 3
Drumgoon v Shercock Team 4
Bailieboro v Cootehill Team 5
Ballyhaise v Drumalee Team 6

Quarter Finals:

Cornafean v Team 6
Team 5 v Killinkere
Team 1 v Team 2
Team 4 v Team 3
Boojangles, what would Drumalee be like at this age group?  I would expect Ballyhaise to be strong, depending on Drumalee that could be a cracking game, local derby and all.
Drumgoon and Shercock should be a very competitive game too - definitely no love lost there
Would know much about the others teams apart from Drumlane who I know would be strong enough
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: jonb_cúl on October 13, 2009, 03:14:13 PM
I heard that lacken & ballinagh agreed to join this year for the u21 competition? but according to the fixtures above this isn't the case, anyone hear any different?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on October 13, 2009, 05:21:58 PM
I know it is still early days and next year's panel is not even picked yet but do you guys think promotion is a realistic option this season?

If TC maximises our potential, and gets the team working hard (easier said than done ;D) I don't think we have anything to fear.

I definetly think we have the guts of a good team, they just need more belief instilled in them and they need to accept themselves that they will have to work harder to make a breakthrough. Find that hunger and desire to win....

Otherwise we will be stuck where we are for years to come.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on October 13, 2009, 06:25:56 PM
Quote from: Celt_Man on October 13, 2009, 01:55:33 PM
Quote from: Celt_Man on October 13, 2009, 11:31:49 AM
The Draw for the Under 21 Championship was made last night... a few interesting games there

Hotel Kilmore Under 21 Championship Division 2
Laragh Utd v Shannon Gaels Team 1
Mountnugent v Lavey Team 2
Drumlane v Knockbride Team 3
Drumgoon v Shercock Team 4
Bailieboro v Cootehill Team 5
Ballyhaise v Drumalee Team 6

Quarter Finals:

Cornafean v Team 6
Team 5 v Killinkere
Team 1 v Team 2
Team 4 v Team 3
Boojangles, what would Drumalee be like at this age group?  I would expect Ballyhaise to be strong, depending on Drumalee that could be a cracking game, local derby and all.
Drumgoon and Shercock should be a very competitive game too - definitely no love lost there
Would know much about the others teams apart from Drumlane who I know would be strong enough

We would not be that strong TBH.We struggled to field a team at Minor level for this age group. We would have 5 or 6 lads who have played Senior football which couldn't be a bad thing but most of them would be underage for another 2 years.
Lavey will be very strong I believe.Drumlane will be very hard bet too,we played them in the League last week and they had alot of Under-21s playing. While Ballyhaise should be there or there abouts. Ray Cullivan is a daunting prospect at that level.
You Under-21 yourself Celt Man? What sort of an outfit have you's?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on October 13, 2009, 07:35:54 PM
Quote from: boojangles on October 13, 2009, 06:25:56 PM
Quote from: Celt_Man on October 13, 2009, 01:55:33 PM
Quote from: Celt_Man on October 13, 2009, 11:31:49 AM
The Draw for the Under 21 Championship was made last night... a few interesting games there

Hotel Kilmore Under 21 Championship Division 2
Laragh Utd v Shannon Gaels Team 1
Mountnugent v Lavey Team 2
Drumlane v Knockbride Team 3
Drumgoon v Shercock Team 4
Bailieboro v Cootehill Team 5
Ballyhaise v Drumalee Team 6

Quarter Finals:

Cornafean v Team 6
Team 5 v Killinkere
Team 1 v Team 2
Team 4 v Team 3
Boojangles, what would Drumalee be like at this age group?  I would expect Ballyhaise to be strong, depending on Drumalee that could be a cracking game, local derby and all.
Drumgoon and Shercock should be a very competitive game too - definitely no love lost there
Would know much about the others teams apart from Drumlane who I know would be strong enough

We would not be that strong TBH.We struggled to field a team at Minor level for this age group. We would have 5 or 6 lads who have played Senior football which couldn't be a bad thing but most of them would be underage for another 2 years.
Lavey will be very strong I believe.Drumlane will be very hard bet too,we played them in the League last week and they had alot of Under-21s playing. While Ballyhaise should be there or there abouts. Ray Cullivan is a daunting prospect at that level.
You Under-21 yourself Celt Man? What sort of an outfit have you's?

Ahh hard to know, there is the potential there to be a half decent side but it's a funny grade - anything can happen... Whatever about ourselves, I would expect Bailieboro to be a very good side - tough opening game
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on October 13, 2009, 09:19:17 PM
Quote from: boojangles on October 13, 2009, 06:25:56 PM
Quote from: Celt_Man on October 13, 2009, 01:55:33 PM
Quote from: Celt_Man on October 13, 2009, 11:31:49 AM
The Draw for the Under 21 Championship was made last night... a few interesting games there

Hotel Kilmore Under 21 Championship Division 2
Laragh Utd v Shannon Gaels Team 1
Mountnugent v Lavey Team 2
Drumlane v Knockbride Team 3
Drumgoon v Shercock Team 4
Bailieboro v Cootehill Team 5
Ballyhaise v Drumalee Team 6

Quarter Finals:

Cornafean v Team 6
Team 5 v Killinkere
Team 1 v Team 2
Team 4 v Team 3
Boojangles, what would Drumalee be like at this age group?  I would expect Ballyhaise to be strong, depending on Drumalee that could be a cracking game, local derby and all.
Drumgoon and Shercock should be a very competitive game too - definitely no love lost there
Would know much about the others teams apart from Drumlane who I know would be strong enough

We would not be that strong TBH.We struggled to field a team at Minor level for this age group. We would have 5 or 6 lads who have played Senior football which couldn't be a bad thing but most of them would be underage for another 2 years.
Lavey will be very strong I believe.Drumlane will be very hard bet too,we played them in the League last week and they had alot of Under-21s playing. While Ballyhaise should be there or there abouts. Ray Cullivan is a daunting prospect at that level.
You Under-21 yourself Celt Man? What sort of an outfit have you's?
The Celt Man never gives much away does he?!! :D Il take that as a Yes?
Wouldn't know much about Bailieboro TBH,but I suppose most of them would have been playing Division 1 or 2 Football at Underage which augurs well.
One more Ceist for ya Celt Man, any truth in the rumours yas mite have 1 or 2 new recruits next season???
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on October 13, 2009, 10:12:05 PM
Quote from: boojangles on October 13, 2009, 09:19:17 PM
Quote from: boojangles on October 13, 2009, 06:25:56 PM
Quote from: Celt_Man on October 13, 2009, 01:55:33 PM
Quote from: Celt_Man on October 13, 2009, 11:31:49 AM
The Draw for the Under 21 Championship was made last night... a few interesting games there

Hotel Kilmore Under 21 Championship Division 2
Laragh Utd v Shannon Gaels Team 1
Mountnugent v Lavey Team 2
Drumlane v Knockbride Team 3
Drumgoon v Shercock Team 4
Bailieboro v Cootehill Team 5
Ballyhaise v Drumalee Team 6

Quarter Finals:

Cornafean v Team 6
Team 5 v Killinkere
Team 1 v Team 2
Team 4 v Team 3
Boojangles, what would Drumalee be like at this age group?  I would expect Ballyhaise to be strong, depending on Drumalee that could be a cracking game, local derby and all.
Drumgoon and Shercock should be a very competitive game too - definitely no love lost there
Would know much about the others teams apart from Drumlane who I know would be strong enough

We would not be that strong TBH.We struggled to field a team at Minor level for this age group. We would have 5 or 6 lads who have played Senior football which couldn't be a bad thing but most of them would be underage for another 2 years.
Lavey will be very strong I believe.Drumlane will be very hard bet too,we played them in the League last week and they had alot of Under-21s playing. While Ballyhaise should be there or there abouts. Ray Cullivan is a daunting prospect at that level.
You Under-21 yourself Celt Man? What sort of an outfit have you's?
The Celt Man never gives much away does he?!! :D Il take that as a Yes?
Wouldn't know much about Bailieboro TBH,but I suppose most of them would have been playing Division 1 or 2 Football at Underage which augurs well.
One more Ceist for ya Celt Man, any truth in the rumours yas mite have 1 or 2 new recruits next season???
Oh sorry, honestly didn't see that first bit.  No not Under 21, not in a few years - was involved in a few battles against Ballyhaise and your own club in that grade.
Jaysus I would have my ear to the ground to most things in the club (I think) but haven't heard a thing about any new recruits?? Care to enlighten me PM or otherwise - dying to hear the gossip now!!!  :P
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: PhilsJemmysField on October 14, 2009, 09:33:48 AM
DO any of you think that U21 is of any real purpose ?

Talk of it being replaced with U20 competition next year so will be a better option for understanding who plays on county u21

What do ye think
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on October 14, 2009, 01:05:58 PM
With regards to the U21's, our lot basically have the same team as last year. Will be a tight enough game against Cootehill. Doubt there will be a lot in it.

Our team will be without 3 or 4 older players through injury. Luke Sheridan, O'Mara and Damien O'Reilly are all out anyway so I would say a few of the minors will be called upon..
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on October 14, 2009, 09:21:09 PM
Looking at the National League draw from last year I think we have to be happy with the draw. Unfortunately I am not optimistic about our chances. Honestly, I think we will be doing well to stay in Div 3. I think the whole spine of our team is weak and from what I am hearing from lads  that were out and about at games more than me there is not a lot coming through. As someone else said, the focus needs to be on underage and that is why insisting the U21's train with the seniors is short sited. We will now end up with the usual half arsed preperation for the U21 championship. I am not hearing the right noises from Tommy Carr, county board or the supporters on the ground to have any real optimism. Sorry!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on October 14, 2009, 09:56:16 PM
As for the underage Myles
it will be interesting to see how St Pats peform in the McRory and other levels this year with Peter Donnelly, Shaun Doherty  and Nicholas Walsh all working with them nearly fulltime now.
They start against  MacCartans on Saturday.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on October 14, 2009, 10:23:31 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on October 14, 2009, 09:21:09 PM
Looking at the National League draw from last year I think we have to be happy with the draw. Unfortunately I am not optimistic about our chances. Honestly, I think we will be doing well to stay in Div 3. I think the whole spine of our team is weak and from what I am hearing from lads  that were out and about at games more than me there is not a lot coming through. As someone else said, the focus needs to be on underage and that is why insisting the U21's train with the seniors is short sited. We will now end up with the usual half arsed preperation for the U21 championship. I am not hearing the right noises from Tommy Carr, county board or the supporters on the ground to have any real optimism. Sorry!

That's what I was going to post. Even I can't summon any optimism from anywhere. From what I can gather, the local championships haven't thrown up a hell of a lot, Tommy Carr hasn't made any noises to the effect that he is more determined/ramping it up/going to change anything too fundamentally from year one (other than get the training going a bit earlier) and the continuing loading of resources into a dead-loss senior setup at the expense of underage (where the key to any rebuilding process down the road lies) is very discouraging and oh-so-typically shortsighted.
TC himself seems to be going through the motions and looks to have very little missionary zeal or drive about him at all.

I've practically retired from giving a shite about the county team, it just gives nothing back. Support, interest and passion is tapering off right across the board in a county where a sniff of an Ulster final would at one time bring 20,000 hopefuls charging but not now. I too am at the end of my tether. I've done quite enough supporting through the thin times, we could be doing a lot better if people of any vision or inspirational quality were in charge, but they're not and I'm forced to ask why I should pay money and buy tickets/support fundraisers etc. for something that just takes, takes, takes and never gives anything back. Sometimes you wonder if a basic like the players even training as hard as other counties is in place, for God's sake. The day is quickly approaching when other stalwarts feel the same, you can sense the thing fraying at the edges as the years go by and the team sinks lower and lower.

I don't even know why I bothered my arse typing this much, who actually gives a f**k really?

Good luck to the whole lot of it, it'll hardly die without me, but I'll live without it too.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on October 14, 2009, 10:38:59 PM
Quote from: cavanmaniac on October 14, 2009, 10:23:31 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on October 14, 2009, 09:21:09 PM
Looking at the National League draw from last year I think we have to be happy with the draw. Unfortunately I am not optimistic about our chances. Honestly, I think we will be doing well to stay in Div 3. I think the whole spine of our team is weak and from what I am hearing from lads  that were out and about at games more than me there is not a lot coming through. As someone else said, the focus needs to be on underage and that is why insisting the U21's train with the seniors is short sited. We will now end up with the usual half arsed preperation for the U21 championship. I am not hearing the right noises from Tommy Carr, county board or the supporters on the ground to have any real optimism. Sorry!

That's what I was going to post. Even I can't summon any optimism from anywhere. From what I can gather, the local championships haven't thrown up a hell of a lot, Tommy Carr hasn't made any noises to the effect that he is more determined/ramping it up/going to change anything too fundamentally from year one (other than get the training going a bit earlier) and the continuing loading of resources into a dead-loss senior setup at the expense of underage (where the key to any rebuilding process down the road lies) is very discouraging and oh-so-typically shortsighted.
TC himself seems to be going through the motions and looks to have very little missionary zeal or drive about him at all.

I've practically retired from giving a shite about the county team, it just gives nothing back. Support, interest and passion is tapering off right across the board in a county where a sniff of an Ulster final would at one time bring 20,000 hopefuls charging but not now. I too am at the end of my tether. I've done quite enough supporting through the thin times, we could be doing a lot better if people of any vision or inspirational quality were in charge, but they're not and I'm forced to ask why I should pay money and buy tickets/support fundraisers etc. for something that just takes, takes, takes and never gives anything back. Sometimes you wonder if a basic like the players even training as hard as other counties is in place, for God's sake. The day is quickly approaching when other stalwarts feel the same, you can sense the thing fraying at the edges as the years go by and the team sinks lower and lower.

I don't even know why I bothered my arse typing this much, who actually gives a f**k really?

Good luck to the whole lot of it, it'll hardly die without me, but I'll live without it too.
CM,thats a bit too emotional for this time of night!!! have you been on the beer?  :o
im hearing rumours and stories and someone on here already said something likewise that Carr has picked most of his panel already,MOST being the important word.
Anyone any info as to newcomers to the panel?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on October 14, 2009, 11:37:45 PM
I'm interested in what Put-It-Up (I think) said a few pages back about the development games not going ahead. Any truth in that? That would lend itself to what BH man just said as TC wasn't at a whole lot of championship games, if any.
I'm not as pessimistic only because I think with our best team on the pitch and totally motivated I think we have a decent team. There are weak spot esp corner-back and midfield but I think if we got Lyng, Rabbitte and Pierson back in the team and firing as they can then it would shore up a lot of the problems. Most of the rest of it is in the head and TC just doesn't inspire me. So I guess in summary I've just contradicted myself. Sorry, just back from a few with the maniac. ;D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: CavanCola on October 14, 2009, 11:50:44 PM
I'm so disillusioned with Cavan football that I have defected to the Meath thread! How bad is that?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on October 14, 2009, 11:53:11 PM
OK - let me just come out and be full negative. When I said the spine of our team is weak here is what I mean...

Goals - Miller has ability but is too dozy and lazy to train properly or to better himself. Waste of time having a hanger on on the panel if you want success.

FB - Rabbitte? Come on, how long have people been beating that drum. Hasn't kicked a ball for Cavan to the best of my knowledge since a McKenna cup game in Derry 3 yrs ago. Is he even up to it anymore? I don't see or hear of anyone else.

CB - For me we need a big strong man and a good reader of the game. We have some guys nearly all of these but none that 100% fit the bill. For me we are trying good WB's out of position at ctr back.

Midfeild - We have Galligan who works hard but lacks a little in ability but who is going to partner him.

Ctr Forward - Lyng would do a job but can he stay fit. If he can't who plays there.

FF - No ball winner in the county that I have seen

Where anyone can see optimism is beyond me. Underage where I hope to see something. I'll probably go to my fair share of stupid journeys around the country when the time comes as my negativity get absorbed by some optimistic madness in February but at the back of it I expect nothing much.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on October 14, 2009, 11:54:14 PM
Quote from: CavanCola on October 14, 2009, 11:50:44 PM
I'm so disillusioned with Cavan football that I have defected to the Meath thread! How bad is that?

Just to give them abuse I hope!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: CavanCola on October 14, 2009, 11:57:41 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on October 14, 2009, 11:54:14 PM
Quote from: CavanCola on October 14, 2009, 11:50:44 PM
I'm so disillusioned with Cavan football that I have defected to the Meath thread! How bad is that?

Just to give them abuse I hope!
In true cavan fashion its a money making venture...
Have a few quid on oldcastle for the intermediate at 12/1.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on October 15, 2009, 12:51:40 AM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on October 14, 2009, 11:53:11 PM
OK - let me just come out and be full negative. When I said the spine of our team is weak here is what I mean...

Goals - Miller has ability but is too dozy and lazy to train properly or to better himself. Waste of time having a hanger on on the panel if you want success.

FB - Rabbitte? Come on, how long have people been beating that drum. Hasn't kicked a ball for Cavan to the best of my knowledge since a McKenna cup game in Derry 3 yrs ago. Is he even up to it anymore? I don't see or hear of anyone else.

CB - For me we need a big strong man and a good reader of the game. We have some guys nearly all of these but none that 100% fit the bill. For me we are trying good WB's out of position at ctr back.

Midfeild - We have Galligan who works hard but lacks a little in ability but who is going to partner him.

Ctr Forward - Lyng would do a job but can he stay fit. If he can't who plays there.

FF - No ball winner in the county that I have seen

Where anyone can see optimism is beyond me. Underage where I hope to see something. I'll probably go to my fair share of stupid journeys around the country when the time comes as my negativity get absorbed by some optimistic madness in February but at the back of it I expect nothing much.

Patrick Galligan Goalkeeper(Killygarry)

Eoin or Darren Smith(Lavey) for fullback

Centre Back,Best club centre half is Chesty,He wasnt great the last time he was centre half for the county?maybe worth another try?
probably too soon for Oisin Minagh,but hes going to be a very good player for Cavan in my opinion probably at Centre Back.

Midfield, Could try Givney here,or you could go with lads like your fellow clubman Thomas Reily,
Sean Reily(Gaels)Thomas Corr(Denn),some of these may not be up to it,but i hope some of them are at least tried in the McKenna Cup.

Centre Forward,other than Lyng,Cullivan maybe,why not try someone like Keith Fannin there and let him roam and get on the ball,These things need to be tried.

Full Forward,Givney,Galligan,Cullivan,theres a few options.

Theres better available for the county than what was on show in Clones last June/July,but Myles is correct in that its hard to overly optimistic about the whole thing.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on October 15, 2009, 08:43:12 AM
I agree with BH Man Myles. Rabbitte is most definitely up to it and so is Eoin Smith if TC would pick the right men or if they're interested. I'm going to make the assumption that he'll try Eoin Smith there this year after having him in last year.
I agree with Myles about CB. Chesty is the best going at club level by a distance but he's had a couple of goes at county level. I'd still bring him in though.
I'd say the other Killeshandra midfielder could give options at MF and FF. Has class but lacking badly in pace for this level.
Lyng is a cert for CF if fit and I think Colin Kiernan should be in there too.
Along with McKiernan I'd hope that Givney would have come on and I'd also have Cullivan as an option here.
So loads of reason to be optimistic if the players were motivated enough.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: beer baron on October 15, 2009, 10:19:27 AM
Full Forward,Givney,Galligan,Cullivan,theres a few options.

Galligan full foward? think not!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: PhilsJemmysField on October 15, 2009, 05:45:13 PM
This is coming from county board minutes send out by our secretary, so looks like they are trying to shake up the strength side of things. Also looks like divisions or something might be going to change

Performance Facilitation Group.(Niall Lynch).
Niall spoke about the need for a strength and conditioning coach in Cavan . With this in mind Phil, Martin and Niall met with Fergus Connolly who is the strength and conditioning coach for Welsh Rugby.Fergus would train Cavan personnel to become aware of this type of training and would help in any way possible. This could be used by clubs also and would develop players to become possible County players.Niall stressed that this wasn't just for the term of the present team management but would continue with whatever management was in place.Phil thanked Niall for his contribution to the meeting.

Fixtures Task Force.
Phil spoke about the fixtures task force. Tony Brady said the presentation of this document was poor and we needed to be more professional inn this department.
Liam read out the points for discussion  and the main fear was the relegation fromm Division 3 to 4.
The first 10 and 12 names were not working and something was needed to improve this.
Some members felt that it was wrong of some clubs to organize a meeting among themselves. It was asked why clubs couldn't ask the County Board to facilitate such a meeting.
Phil said he would set up a committee and there would be another County Committee meeting to decide on the way forward.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on October 15, 2009, 07:35:03 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on October 14, 2009, 10:38:59 PM
CM,thats a bit too emotional for this time of night!!! have you been on the beer?  :o
im hearing rumours and stories and someone on here already said something likewise that Carr has picked most of his panel already,MOST being the important word.
Anyone any info as to newcomers to the panel?

:D Ha Ha well there were a few sherries taken alright but I still stand over what I said. If I was typing it again I might be just a bit less Oprah Winfrey about it though! :'(
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: jonb_cúl on October 15, 2009, 07:39:58 PM
Quote from: PhilsJemmysField on October 15, 2009, 05:45:13 PM
This is coming from county board minutes send out by our secretary, so looks like they are trying to shake up the strength side of things. Also looks like divisions or something might be going to change

Performance Facilitation Group.(Niall Lynch).
Niall spoke about the need for a strength and conditioning coach in Cavan . With this in mind Phil, Martin and Niall met with Fergus Connolly who is the strength and conditioning coach for Welsh Rugby.Fergus would train Cavan personnel to become aware of this type of training and would help in any way possible. This could be used by clubs also and would develop players to become possible County players.Niall stressed that this wasn't just for the term of the present team management but would continue with whatever management was in place.Phil thanked Niall for his contribution to the meeting.



Fixtures Task Force.
Phil spoke about the fixtures task force. Tony Brady said the presentation of this document was poor and we needed to be more professional inn this department.
Liam read out the points for discussion  and the main fear was the relegation fromm Division 3 to 4.
The first 10 and 12 names were not working and something was needed to improve this.
Some members felt that it was wrong of some clubs to organize a meeting among themselves. It was asked why clubs couldn't ask the County Board to facilitate such a meeting.
Phil said he would set up a committee and there would be another County Committee meeting to decide on the way forward.

Meetings to organise meeting, ah bless!!! I wonder was that why McCabe travelled to cardiff back in March!! ha Ha
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on October 15, 2009, 09:13:31 PM
Quote from: jonb_cúl on October 15, 2009, 07:39:58 PM
Quote from: PhilsJemmysField on October 15, 2009, 05:45:13 PM
This is coming from county board minutes send out by our secretary, so looks like they are trying to shake up the strength side of things. Also looks like divisions or something might be going to change

Performance Facilitation Group.(Niall Lynch).
Niall spoke about the need for a strength and conditioning coach in Cavan . With this in mind Phil, Martin and Niall met with Fergus Connolly who is the strength and conditioning coach for Welsh Rugby.Fergus would train Cavan personnel to become aware of this type of training and would help in any way possible. This could be used by clubs also and would develop players to become possible County players.Niall stressed that this wasn't just for the term of the present team management but would continue with whatever management was in place.Phil thanked Niall for his contribution to the meeting.



Fixtures Task Force.
Phil spoke about the fixtures task force. Tony Brady said the presentation of this document was poor and we needed to be more professional inn this department.
Liam read out the points for discussion  and the main fear was the relegation fromm Division 3 to 4.
The first 10 and 12 names were not working and something was needed to improve this.
Some members felt that it was wrong of some clubs to organize a meeting among themselves. It was asked why clubs couldn't ask the County Board to facilitate such a meeting.
Phil said he would set up a committee and there would be another County Committee meeting to decide on the way forward.

Meetings to organise meeting, ah bless!!! I wonder was that why McCabe travelled to cardiff back in March!! ha Ha

I don't get your point here Jon?? What has any of that got to do with McCabe?
Anyway I have heard some excellent stuf about Fergus Connolly.Hopefully he can pass on plenty of useful tips and skills.
I wonder who is the 'Cavan personnel' they hope to train in these methods? Obviously all County Coaches and managers and development coaches.
They should really organise a few workshops or Coaching weekends for all clubs with this Connolly fella. Conditioning seemed to be a big problem with alot of players last year. The Antrim game springs to mind ,where we looked dead on our feet.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: jonb_cúl on October 15, 2009, 11:08:45 PM
Sorry boojangles, a bit of tongue in cheek stuff there. I was only having the craic there with regards the time McCabe was meant to have travelled to watch a rugby match in Cardiff back in March while Cavan played a NFL match.

But yea its fairly impressive stuff getting a professional strength & fitness coach in to get ideas from, here's hoping that we get something constructive from this venture. I think it should be geared greatly towards the minor & U21 squads.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: jonb_cúl on October 15, 2009, 11:25:45 PM
Interesting stuff here...................

Renowned fitness trainer Mike McGurn is looking forward to his new role with the Armagh footballers.
The former Ireland rugby strength and conditioning coach, who recently ended his involvement with the Ospreys rugby club in Wales, will be a key figure in new manager Paddy O'Rourke's backroom team as the Orchard County bid to regain winning ways in 2010.


..........I suppose thats the difference right there, we get a guy in on a consultancy basis & Armagh get the same type of coach in as part of their backroom team!!!! ???
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on October 15, 2009, 11:36:38 PM
Fergus Connolly is a world class Stength and Condtioning coach,who has worked with the WRFU consulted with Manchester United Football Club and worked with Bolton Wanderers in the past,
As he has profesional teams from all over the UK queing demanding his services,i cant imagine any  GAA county  would be able to afford a man like this for his services over a 10-12 month period,so to be fair to Cavan County Board,getting him in to consult is good work,as hes also in demand from other County GAA teams in consultancy roles aswell.
Mike McGurn is a terrific appointment for Armagh,hes one of the best strength and conditioning coaches in Ireland.
Niall Lynch is a PE teacher with third level qualifications from Strawberry Hill in London,he would be fairly knowledgeable in this area so we should be ok.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: jonb_cúl on October 16, 2009, 12:23:50 AM
Fair point BHM, I wasn't getting at Niall Lynch or anything or like that. I was making the remark of how things are set up different in various counties. It seems that there is still an abundance of stg in armagh!!!!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on October 16, 2009, 12:38:39 AM
Quote from: jonb_cúl on October 16, 2009, 12:23:50 AM
Fair point BHM, I wasn't getting at Niall Lynch or anything or like that. I was making the remark of how things are set up different in various counties. It seems that there is still an abundance of stg in armagh!!!!

know you werent jon, i didnt mean to insinuate you did,Sorry for that
Christ i wish we could get Fergus Connolly as our strength and conditioning coach,he would take us to another level,Ive been told an awful lot about him,by guys who know all about the very best exponents in the field of S and C and i just think hes nearly above GAA unless he was say appointed as Ulster Council or overall GAA Strength and Conditioning Co-ordinator/manager. I know hes a GAA mad man,but i think he would be mad to comeback as hes be wanted by an awful lot of professional organisations for his expertise.
Alongside the likes of All Blacks legendendary Strength and Condtioning coach Ashley Jones,hes rated as one of the best in the world.
I hope Connolly's input will help,because as you say none of us have criticised Lynch ,but we didnt look at all sharp like a championship team should against Antrim last summer.
Armagh didnt look championship fit this year and looked very sluggish,McGurn will have them Conditioned to the last,Hes also big into his powerwork with weights,(Not going to bore anyone with the details,of lifts etc anyone who wants to know can PM me)so like other years under Grimley/Kernan,they will be a big and extremely strong team.
Wouldnt fancy meeting them next year in Ulster.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on October 16, 2009, 11:59:52 AM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on October 15, 2009, 11:36:38 PM
Fergus Connolly is a world class Stength and Condtioning coach,who has worked with the WRFU consulted with Manchester United Football Club and worked with Bolton Wanderers in the past,
As he has profesional teams from all over the UK queing demanding his services,i cant imagine any  GAA county  would be able to afford a man like this for his services over a 10-12 month period,so to be fair to Cavan County Board,getting him in to consult is good work,as hes also in demand from other County GAA teams in consultancy roles aswell.
Mike McGurn is a terrific appointment for Armagh,hes one of the best strength and conditioning coaches in Ireland.
Niall Lynch is a PE teacher with third level qualifications from Strawberry Hill in London,he would be fairly knowledgeable in this area so we should be ok.

You would have thought so.Lets hope we really see what Niall Lynch is made of this year.I always felt he would make a great coach,and obviously did dome fantastic work with Virginia but now is the time to get the best out of the Seniors. I know he is doing it for the good of his county and probably getting damn all in return but it was very disappointing to see the manner in which we physically folded against Antrim last year. The Team looked drained. Lets hope he learns from this.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Drung on October 16, 2009, 12:24:54 PM
In fairness, Lynch did extremely well with Virginia but the standard was dire. Very few Virginia College players even made good county minors - Conor Smith scored something like 3-4 in the final one year and flopped for the county.
Wasn't Darren Costello of Denn captain one year and couldn't make the county minors?

The jury is still out on him, his first year with the seniors (he got the job after being overlooked for the minors, figure that out) was an unmitigated disaster. Hopefully he, and everyone else, will pull their socks up this year.

Fill the team with Gaels lads I say. They are the benchmark and many of the Cavan panellists wouldn't make their first 15, strange as it sounds.
Think about it. Their senior team v the Cavan team, the Gaels are stronger in a lot of positions.
Sean Reilly over Ciaran Galligan, Nelligan over Givney, Crotty over Brides, Rabbitt over whoever Cavan put full-back...
That's not to mention Collins, Forde, Lyng etc...
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: beer baron on October 16, 2009, 12:50:05 PM
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Lads until our clubs start putting serious work on a year by year basis into our uder 10s, 8s and 6s we will be talking the same shit for nex 50 yrs. We're rubbish, we will not improve because we have not the players. Also we have to have small club joining togethr to strengthen our senior leagues. Our curent systems are not producing county players, so lets change it rather than doing the same all over again and again and again and again and again

Fair enough we may not have a team that is going to win all round,but if the right training is put in place and players are in peak condition and we have a good gameplan and back up plan and players sticking their head in where others wouldn't put in their foot we can progress and get a few more days out next summer at least.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: beer baron on October 16, 2009, 03:32:07 PM
Yes there is lot of work being done underage with the club though i haven't been invoved in the past 2 seasons with living away from home.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on October 17, 2009, 12:13:09 AM
Quote from: beer baron on October 16, 2009, 03:32:07 PM
Yes there is lot of work being done underage with the club though i haven't been invoved in the past 2 seasons with living away from home.
Quote from: Thastheball on October 16, 2009, 12:54:01 PM
question for your beer belly :D, is your club busting a gut at u6, u8 and u10 level, getting your coaches trained as well as your underage teams coached properly for 11 months of the year, are you helping to do it also?

Hmmm.....

Anyway, definitely across the county we need to get proper coaching in at the earliest levels in the club and maintain it right through the age groups.  The two touch football for the U 12s and U 14s introduced this year is a giant leap forward and some of the sounds coming from the Coaching and Games Development committee are encouraging...

But having said all that, there's no point in trying to draw a line through our senior squad.. plenty of talent there - just the whole squad needs to be moving in the one direction with a good winter of hard work done - ie the appropriate strength and conditioning work the boys were on about earlier

Personally if we showed some signs of improvement in the vital areas (passion, pride and a wee bit of steel in the key positions) during the league, I think I would be happy enough to a certain extent...  While getting involved in a promotion race would be a benefit in the experience stakes but not essential... anyway here's hoping...

In case anyone looking in was thinking of going (doubtful but the Baron might be about), our match at home against Drumlane in the league tomorrow is changed to 2 p.m.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on October 17, 2009, 12:17:05 AM
Quote from: beer baron on October 16, 2009, 03:32:07 PM
Yes there is lot of work being done underage with the club though i haven't been invoved in the past 2 seasons with living away from home.

A lot of work going in alright but it's in an awful mess... don't want to use the word shambles but...
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on October 17, 2009, 12:54:21 PM
I see morale is low at the minute amongst us die hards lads but don't give up on them yet.

From what I gather, the management team have been putting in quite a bit of work and are going to be working very hard from now until January to improve things. Think they are doing boxing training for two months and going to have a charity fight night around Christmas. Just because TC is not in the Celt, saying what he is doing does not mean he is not doing anything!

Getting Connolly to lend his expertise is also a big scoop and I congratulate them on that. We all know we have nice footballers, but we struggle at times to break the tackle and rough people up. We are too nice, we need to develop a mean streak, a determination to win....

Now I know we are not world beaters but the question we have to ask ourselves is are we as good as we can be? Are we maximising our potential. The answer is no. There is far more in the u21's and seniors and it is the players themselves that need to change the fate of Cavan football. The players need to sit down together and say f*ck this, I am sick of being a loser.

I think the core of the players next year will be the same, and so it should be but I think a big push should be made to get chesty back in as well as Rabbite. If TC cuts the dead wood and the negative influences on the squads and brings in new faces who are eager to impress, that would shake things up a bit. Over the last year fews a few in the starting team have been too comfortable. For their own sakes, they need a kick up the bum to get them back to the top of their game.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on October 17, 2009, 01:49:36 PM
Well said.

Won't be at the epic Crosserlough - Denn match.  How do I get the result?  Any kind souls out there that could post the result?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on October 17, 2009, 05:02:11 PM
Quote from: put-it-up on October 17, 2009, 12:54:21 PM
I see morale is low at the minute amongst us die hards lads but don't give up on them yet.

From what I gather, the management team have been putting in quite a bit of work and are going to be working very hard from now until January to improve things. Think they are doing boxing training for two months and going to have a charity fight night around Christmas. Just because TC is not in the Celt, saying what he is doing does not mean he is not doing anything!

Getting Connolly to lend his expertise is also a big scoop and I congratulate them on that. We all know we have nice footballers, but we struggle at times to break the tackle and rough people up. We are too nice, we need to develop a mean streak, a determination to win....

Now I know we are not world beaters but the question we have to ask ourselves is are we as good as we can be? Are we maximising our potential. The answer is no. There is far more in the u21's and seniors and it is the players themselves that need to change the fate of Cavan football. The players need to sit down together and say f*ck this, I am sick of being a loser.

I think the core of the players next year will be the same, and so it should be but I think a big push should be made to get chesty back in as well as Rabbite. If TC cuts the dead wood and the negative influences on the squads and brings in new faces who are eager to impress, that would shake things up a bit. Over the last year fews a few in the starting team have been too comfortable. For their own sakes, they need a kick up the bum to get them back to the top of their game.

Well said surely.I admire your optimism.The boxing mite be what we need but in fairness its the execution of the basic skills like kicking the ball over the bar when under pressure is what we really need to be working on.
I agree about getting Chesty back in,this is a must but I don't agree about Rabbitte.he will be 29 this year and I think we would be better chancing Eoin Smith.He showed alot better than Rabbitte from what I seen in the championship this year. Young Costello had the beating of Rabbitte in the County final.2 or 3 years ago Darren Rabbitte would have been taking a lad like that to the cleaners.No disrespect to Costello but he is not Inter-County standard and Rabbitte should have been dominating him.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on October 17, 2009, 06:16:59 PM
Quote from: boojangles on October 17, 2009, 05:02:11 PM
Quote from: put-it-up on October 17, 2009, 12:54:21 PM
I see morale is low at the minute amongst us die hards lads but don't give up on them yet.

From what I gather, the management team have been putting in quite a bit of work and are going to be working very hard from now until January to improve things. Think they are doing boxing training for two months and going to have a charity fight night around Christmas. Just because TC is not in the Celt, saying what he is doing does not mean he is not doing anything!

Getting Connolly to lend his expertise is also a big scoop and I congratulate them on that. We all know we have nice footballers, but we struggle at times to break the tackle and rough people up. We are too nice, we need to develop a mean streak, a determination to win....

Now I know we are not world beaters but the question we have to ask ourselves is are we as good as we can be? Are we maximising our potential. The answer is no. There is far more in the u21's and seniors and it is the players themselves that need to change the fate of Cavan football. The players need to sit down together and say f*ck this, I am sick of being a loser.

I think the core of the players next year will be the same, and so it should be but I think a big push should be made to get chesty back in as well as Rabbite. If TC cuts the dead wood and the negative influences on the squads and brings in new faces who are eager to impress, that would shake things up a bit. Over the last year fews a few in the starting team have been too comfortable. For their own sakes, they need a kick up the bum to get them back to the top of their game.

Well said surely.I admire your optimism.The boxing mite be what we need but in fairness its the execution of the basic skills like kicking the ball over the bar when under pressure is what we really need to be working on.
I agree about getting Chesty back in,this is a must but I don't agree about Rabbitte.he will be 29 this year and I think we would be better chancing Eoin Smith.He showed alot better than Rabbitte from what I seen in the championship this year. Young Costello had the beating of Rabbitte in the County final.2 or 3 years ago Darren Rabbitte would have been taking a lad like that to the cleaners.No disrespect to Costello but he is not Inter-County standard and Rabbitte should have been dominating him.
Why not bring both in at the start and see how it goes? It's not like we have any sort of cover for FB from anywhere else.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on October 17, 2009, 06:44:44 PM
Quote from: Lawrence of Knockbride on October 17, 2009, 06:16:59 PM
Quote from: boojangles on October 17, 2009, 05:02:11 PM
Quote from: put-it-up on October 17, 2009, 12:54:21 PM
I see morale is low at the minute amongst us die hards lads but don't give up on them yet.

From what I gather, the management team have been putting in quite a bit of work and are going to be working very hard from now until January to improve things. Think they are doing boxing training for two months and going to have a charity fight night around Christmas. Just because TC is not in the Celt, saying what he is doing does not mean he is not doing anything!

Getting Connolly to lend his expertise is also a big scoop and I congratulate them on that. We all know we have nice footballers, but we struggle at times to break the tackle and rough people up. We are too nice, we need to develop a mean streak, a determination to win....

Now I know we are not world beaters but the question we have to ask ourselves is are we as good as we can be? Are we maximising our potential. The answer is no. There is far more in the u21's and seniors and it is the players themselves that need to change the fate of Cavan football. The players need to sit down together and say f*ck this, I am sick of being a loser.

I think the core of the players next year will be the same, and so it should be but I think a big push should be made to get chesty back in as well as Rabbite. If TC cuts the dead wood and the negative influences on the squads and brings in new faces who are eager to impress, that would shake things up a bit. Over the last year fews a few in the starting team have been too comfortable. For their own sakes, they need a kick up the bum to get them back to the top of their game.

Well said surely.I admire your optimism.The boxing mite be what we need but in fairness its the execution of the basic skills like kicking the ball over the bar when under pressure is what we really need to be working on.
I agree about getting Chesty back in,this is a must but I don't agree about Rabbitte.he will be 29 this year and I think we would be better chancing Eoin Smith.He showed alot better than Rabbitte from what I seen in the championship this year. Young Costello had the beating of Rabbitte in the County final.2 or 3 years ago Darren Rabbitte would have been taking a lad like that to the cleaners.No disrespect to Costello but he is not Inter-County standard and Rabbitte should have been dominating him.
Why not bring both in at the start and see how it goes? It's not like we have any sort of cover for FB from anywhere else.

Bring in both of them surely. If Rabbite is past it, then he doesn't make the panel. Simple as. Also, I have a lot of time for Darren Smith of Lavey. Dermot Sheridan has a lot of positive attributes and I would defo have him in my panel but I don't think you get the best out of him at FB.

I was abit optimistic in my last post alright but lads complaining all the time and giving out just pissed me off. We are we are, we all know that. Constructive critiscism is fine, and maybe a bit of it from withing the Cavan Camp would do the world of good too.

Now we got to do what we can to improve in any department what so ever.

And I know we are lacking in basic skills in certain areas, but lets be honest Lawrence, the boxing can do no harm what so ever (bar a few broken noses..haha). There is no collective training allowed anyway over the next 2 months but lets be honest, all the basic skills can be worked on and improved individually!

That's where the pressure from within comes into the equation.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: whats my name on October 17, 2009, 09:12:25 PM
just heard some of the new faces that were at the county training this morning alan durkin,alan curran,bud fitzpatrick,eoin mc philips just thought id let you's know training was taken by andrew murray and his trainer and they done circut training aswell
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on October 17, 2009, 10:20:00 PM
I don't think I knocked the boxing did I?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on October 17, 2009, 11:19:01 PM
Quote from: Lawrence of Knockbride on October 17, 2009, 10:20:00 PM
I don't think I knocked the boxing did I?

No no, but I was just saying there is no harm in focusing in on it and seeing if it of benefit. I was just saying basic skills can be worked on individually, between collective trainings you know?

What you think of those lads that were called in Lawrence? Not really names I was hoping to see called in to be honest..
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on October 17, 2009, 11:48:44 PM
Crosserlough 0 - 13 Denn 1 - 7   according to teletext anyway... we beat drumlane and goonies beat knockbride... so the last 2 semi final spots in div 2 will go down to the last games...
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: beer baron on October 18, 2009, 12:12:14 PM
Quote from: Celt_Man on October 17, 2009, 11:48:44 PM
Crosserlough 0 - 13 Denn 1 - 7   according to teletext anyway... we beat drumlane and goonies beat knockbride... so the last 2 semi final spots in div 2 will go down to the last games...
So we're not there yet?Doury the boyo lyin to me.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on October 18, 2009, 12:31:28 PM
Quote from: put-it-up on October 17, 2009, 11:19:01 PM
Quote from: Lawrence of Knockbride on October 17, 2009, 10:20:00 PM
I don't think I knocked the boxing did I?

No no, but I was just saying there is no harm in focusing in on it and seeing if it of benefit. I was just saying basic skills can be worked on individually, between collective trainings you know?

What you think of those lads that were called in Lawrence? Not really names I was hoping to see called in to be honest..

I'd have to agree with you. I'd have thought Curran was well past it but maybe I'm being harsh. I wasn't that impressed with McPhilips defensively this year. Looks good on the ball but we have enough of those. I've not see Fitzpatrick but there were other names that may have their reasons for not being there at this stage.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on October 18, 2009, 08:45:53 PM
Seriously intense match in Breffni today in sometimes difficult conditions but in the end it was an all too familiar tale for Cavan football. The indsicpline of players that really ought to know better was terrible to see.
Chesty off-off the ball incident.
Walsh off-off the ball incident
Forde off-dissent.
Crotty off-jumping on a mans back when the gaels are 2 points down, 2 men down and need the ball late in the game.

I know it's easy from the stand when I'm not in the heat of battle but it was painful to see that kind of shite. Crotty's was late and stupid and possibly out of frustration. The others have little excuse.
Galls were the better team overall and like last year left their shooting boots at home but prevailed in the end.
Johnston should've got the line too for smacking the ball away/at the ref only for the ref to put his card back in his pocket instead of issuing a second yellow.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on October 18, 2009, 08:49:43 PM
Quote from: Lawrence of Knockbride on October 18, 2009, 08:45:53 PM
Seriously intense match in Breffni today in sometimes difficult conditions but in the end it was an all too familiar tale for Cavan football. The indsicpline of players that really ought to know better was terrible to see.
Chesty off-off the ball incident.
Walsh off-off the ball incident
Forde off-dissent.
Crotty off-jumping on a mans back when the gaels are 2 points down, 2 men down and need the ball late in the game.

I know it's easy from the stand when I'm not in the heat of battle but it was painful to see that kind of shite. Crotty's was late and stupid and possibly out of frustration. The others have little excuse.
Galls were the better team overall and like last year left their shooting boots at home but prevailed in the end.
Johnston should've got the line too for smacking the ball away/at the ref only for the ref to put his card back in his pocket instead of issuing a second yellow.

+ 1
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: CavanCola on October 18, 2009, 09:03:45 PM
Interesting article from the tribune today....

Most over-rated Footballers
of 2009

1. Stephen O'Neill

As I've already said, there are days when someone as good as O'Neill needs to turn games all on his own. The greatest footballers on the greatest teams do such a thing, you know. As Tyrone struggled to look anything like commanding All Ireland title-holders in August, more and more was required of O'Neill. Instead we got slimmer examples of his brilliance. O'Neill gave us all the impression he is, at this stage of his career, more of a support act on Mickey Harte's team. He never lived up to top billing in a season which demanded it of him.

2. Tadgh Kennelly

It's not his fault. He didn't ask for the mindless fascination which followed him almost every day of the season. He did as well as he could in almost every game he played and in the All Ireland final gave a very worthy, workmanlike performance which had the addition of two good points. Take away the fairytale business of his return home, and also the drama of the big gamble which Jack O'Connor took in giving Kennelly a straight run at a medal, however, and what's left is something none of us would have passed too many remarks upon if, say, Eoin Brosnan had stuck around and delivered on the same scale.

3. Seánie Johnston

No forward, every winter and spring, gets as much attention and applause from the media as Cavan's immaculately skilled corner-forward. Johnston – it's true – does have it all. Yet he makes so little happen once the championship commences. When Cavan needed chunks of Johnston's undoubted genius in order to complete a credible run through the qualifying rounds, which was well within the team's abilities, they didn't get that.

4. Paul Griffin

Being Dublin captain is not a role which anyone could desire. Griffin is a quiet, fairly humble footballer, with magnificent defensive qualities – and it's not his fault he completely, horrifically failed to save Dublin from the quarter-final slaughter. Even on a day as awful as that, more was expected from Griffin. Dublin got less.

5. Pearse O'Neill

Within the vulnerable, always wary Cork camp, O'Neill gave the firm impression in 2008 and in the early part of '09 that he was made of the sort of stuff which was capable of changing the county's football history. Coming onto the team so late in his career, and to play such strong roles taking several big games by the collar, we expected him to be the last man on the Cork team in this year's final to pack for home. But O'Neill, even before the game had reached halfway, packed with the rest of them. Unfortunately for us, and most unfortunately for his own reputation.

lhayes@tribune.ie

October 18, 2009
http://www.tribune.ie/sport/gaelic-football/article/2009/oct/18/football-analyst-liam-hayes-five-greats-five-great/
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on October 18, 2009, 09:10:57 PM
I'm not Johnston's biggest fan but I feel that's harsh. I think he more than pulls his weight when it comes to putting the ball between the posts. It's the other side of his game that bothers me.
I don't think this article contributes much.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on October 18, 2009, 09:31:51 PM
Typical shite from Liam Hayes... stirring and making things up just for the sake of it.... very harsh on all of them.
Paul Griffin is over rated because as Captain he didn't stop Dublin for imploding against Kerry, there's no logic to that argument at all
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on October 19, 2009, 12:40:28 PM
Made the trip down to see Gaels and Galls. It was certainly intense, gripping stuff.

I have to say first off, I was impressed with the Gaels workrate and commitment, and the character they showed to send it to extra time with a man less on a very draining day. I know Galls were wasteful in front of the posts and generally edged the contest overall, but I left thinking that if our county team had half the balls, drive and gumption that the Gaels do, we'd be a lot better off.

Now that's one side of the argument, the other of course is that their traditional headlessness cost them dear again, although whether they'd have made a better fist of the extra time with a fuller complement remains to be seen, as they were struggling a little anyway. It's incredible for a team of their pedigree and experience that you have seasoned performers like Chesty, Walsh, Forde and Crotty all spitting the dummy or doing ridiculous, volatile, brainless things on the field in a vital game. Simply unbelieveable.

Am interested in people's views of the penalty given to Galls...is a penalty awarded when a keeper overplays the ball in the small square? It's an unusual occurrence to say the least.
Also, did the referee c**k up by sending some of the Gaels lads off on second yellows in extra time, when (I'm almost certain) the initial yellow had been issued in normal time and therefore should have been wiped out? Or have I that arseways?

Anyway, the Gaels were slightly short on the day. The intensity of the tactics and defensive nature of their game often left them way too short of numbers in attack and stopped counter attacks in their tracks when their frequent stout defending yielded turnovers. That said, they had the last three possessions (Murray?) in injury time of normal time and I think on each occasion they were turned over in the middle of the field, those were chances to win the game as Galls were a bit rattled. A big target man to leave upfield as a hit and hope out-ball would have done wonders for the Gaels yesterday, look at the difference the big man made for Galls when they brought him on, he was indirectly responsible for at least three points.
Gaels also hit the post in extra time when down by two as well and then after that, they just lost the rag altogether, which was a sour twist on what was in many ways a performance you could admire to a certain extent.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on October 19, 2009, 01:12:12 PM
Am interested in people's views of the penalty given to Galls...is a penalty awarded when a keeper overplays the ball in the small square? It's an unusual occurrence to say the least.

The goalkeepers fouled the ball by overcarrying so it was a penalty.  It would be the same if a back picked up the ball in the small square.  Can have no complaints.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on October 19, 2009, 01:26:19 PM
Quote from: Denn Forever on October 19, 2009, 01:12:12 PM
Am interested in people's views of the penalty given to Galls...is a penalty awarded when a keeper overplays the ball in the small square? It's an unusual occurrence to say the least.

The goalkeepers fouled the ball by overcarrying so it was a penalty.  It would be the same if a back picked up the ball in the small square.  Can have no complaints.
Yes, I'm told this was the correct decision. The complaint the gaels seem to have is that Elliott was tackled in the area which I don't think is true.
As for the yellow cads being carried over, I'm informe that this was passed at congress only very recently. Very strange when the reason I've always been told that a team down to 14 gets back to 15 in ET is because it's a new game.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Drung on October 19, 2009, 02:21:35 PM
QuoteI have to say first off, I was impressed with the Gaels workrate and commitment, and the character they showed to send it to extra time with a man less on a very draining day. I know Galls were wasteful in front of the posts and generally edged the contest overall, but I left thinking that if our county team had half the balls, drive and gumption that the Gaels do, we'd be a lot better off.

I totally disagree. The Gaels were six up with 25 minutes to play and hit the self-destruct button, Chesty going round charging with the head at a crucial stage.
The diving antics of Walsh beggared belief too.
Getting four men sent off in one match and being outscored by 1-5 to 0-2 in the final 25 minutes of normal time is the opposite to 'balls and gumption' in my opinion.
Lyng was scoreless for 80 minutes plus - no balls there. Jelly kicked the ball at the ref and Crotty took a fella down with a WWF style tackle in the last seconds. Not much gumption in that!
Niall Murray came on and coughed up possession four times by my count, kicked one great point and followed up with a poor wide.
Gall's totally dominated the match and kicked 20 wides according to Irish News today - if they had even scored a quarter of these they were seven point winners, which would have been closer to the right result.

It was just terrible for Cavan football, I really thought the Gaels would give us all a lift. They are a great team when things are going well, which is often because Cavan sides roll over against them. But outside of Ulster, their record is actually worse than Cavan's in the Ulster Championship!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BigMac on October 19, 2009, 03:19:51 PM
I have a few comments on the previous posts. Firstly I too would like to question the fact that a penalty was given for the keeper over carrying the ball. Im not saying it isnt a penalty but i have played in games where the keeper has either overcarried, or picked the ball off the ground outside the small square (i cant remember which it was) and a 13m free was the result. Is there any situation where there is a 13m after the ball is fouled in the square.
Also I know for a fact that if a player gets sent off in normal time and the game goes into injury time then the team is allowed go back to 15 as it is a new game. Surely then by by calculation all yellow cards should be forgotten about in extra time if it is to be called "a new game". And if that is the case then the player that was sent off may even be allowed back on if they had got two yellows in normal time, because there is no suspension for two yellows. What do ye lads think of this?
On another note, the list of over rated players that was posted in the Tribune..... What a load of bull. Of the 5 players listed, 3 of them Tadhg Kenelly, Pearse O'Neill, and Stephen O'Neill have all won All Star awards which is probably one of the greatest individual accolades a player can get, so to call them over rated seem a bit strange to me.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on October 19, 2009, 03:33:30 PM
Quote from: cavanmaniac on October 19, 2009, 12:40:28 PM
Now that's one side of the argument, the other of course is that their traditional headlessness cost them dear again...It's incredible for a team of their pedigree and experience that you have seasoned performers like Chesty, Walsh, Forde and Crotty all spitting the dummy or doing ridiculous, volatile, brainless things on the field in a vital game. Simply unbelieveable.

You might read that above passage I wrote before delivering any more sermons Drung.

Gaels let themselves down very badly in the end, I agree and said as much, but for the better part of the match and until they let their discipline go entirely, they were clearly full of determination and spirit, and stuck rigidly to the gameplan they had. I thought they defended very well at times, there were frequent turnovers and good dispossessions and they clipped some nice scores at times also. Until Galls started using their strong runners more in the second half, it was notable how the shadowing and marking employed by the Gaels defence forced them into playing raking balls crossfield in an effort to find space, way out wide, which contributed to the Galls wides tally when they did everntually shoot. Whatever about the nonsense later, there's a huge element of discipline involved there and at that stage, they were keeping the foul count down too.
They forced extra time with a man less on a day when they had 15 defenders covering every blade of grass , were unlucky to hit the post with a goal chancew when STILL only two down in extra time despite all, and they certainly never rolled over and meekly accepted defeat like a lot of Cavan teams I've been seeing in recent seasons.

There was still plenty to admire in the Gaels performance even if they let eventually themselves down very badly with the stupid stuff and if the county team employed the better aspects of the Gaels display we'd be a hell of a lot better off.

As for your simplistic aside about 'pushing the self destruct button' you might consider how Galls totally revamped their game and switched to running at the heart of the Gaels defence when they went six down and brought their wing backs into it (especially number seven) and also how their targetman gave them a whole new dimension from which a lot of key scores came from, but instead you're just interested in ragging on the Gaels while refusing to ackowledge they were playing a very good team as well.
I'm not a Gaels clubman or anything close but the petty refusal by a lot of football-watchers in the county to give them any credit whatsoever for anything they do beggars belief at times.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on October 19, 2009, 04:16:11 PM
A Technical foul like Elliotts yesterday in the small square is a Penalty.
Not sure about the yellow card rule.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on October 19, 2009, 04:35:46 PM
I think it is very harsh to concede a penalty for a technical foul in the small square.  Something like the keeper over carrying it or throwing the ball should be just a 13 m in my opinion but the rules are that a penalty should be awarded.

As for the yellow cards, my understanding is that if a player gets two yellows and then a red during a game, that the team can introduce a sub for that player at the start of extra time although the same player can't be re-introduced.

Also a yellow card received in the first 60 minutes has no bearing on extra time, it is essentially a new game so a player has to receive two yellows in extra time to get the line.   I think I can remember Forde getting a yellow early on in the first few minutes of extra time but am open to correction on that.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Drung on October 19, 2009, 04:37:55 PM
Funny you should say this, cavanmaniac:
Quoteyou're just interested in ragging on the Gaels

and this

QuoteI'm not a Gaels clubman or anything close but the petty refusal by a lot of football-watchers in the county to give them any credit whatsoever for anything they do beggars belief at times.[/

Because in my very last post I said this:

QuoteFill the Cavan team with Gaels lads I say. They are the benchmark

Doesn't sound like someone not giving credit, does it?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on October 19, 2009, 04:45:56 PM
That's a fair point Drung, I was only commenting on the post you'd just written, I'm not about to go back trawling through your entire posting history! But fair point, yes.

I still think you're way, way too harsh on them and giving them absolutely no credit for what I think are some very laudable aspects to their performance though. Take the petulant sniping stuff out of it and I'd be more than happy to see a county team applying themselves as vigorously for the rest of the year. But I doubt we'll see it.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: RacingPost09 on October 19, 2009, 06:24:33 PM
Cavanmaniac... I would like to know how you could praise any aspects of the Gaels performance when they got 4 men sent off in 80mins of football...thats just not acceptable.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on October 19, 2009, 07:17:19 PM
Quote from: RacingPost09 on October 19, 2009, 06:24:33 PM
Cavanmaniac... I would like to know how you could praise any aspects of the Gaels performance when they got 4 men sent off in 80mins of football...thats just not acceptable.
If I may maniac........simple, you concentrate on the things they did well and praise them, which he did.
Quote from: Celt_Man on October 19, 2009, 04:35:46 PM
I think it is very harsh to concede a penalty for a technical foul in the small square.  Something like the keeper over carrying it or throwing the ball should be just a 13 m in my opinion but the rules are that a penalty should be awarded.

As for the yellow cards, my understanding is that if a player gets two yellows and then a red during a game, that the team can introduce a sub for that player at the start of extra time although the same player can't be re-introduced.

Also a yellow card received in the first 60 minutes has no bearing on extra time, it is essentially a new game so a player has to receive two yellows in extra time to get the line.   I think I can remember Forde getting a yellow early on in the first few minutes of extra time but am open to correction on that.
I found it strange too Celt Man but as I said this new rule about the yellows carrying over is supposed to be about 2 weeks old. I can't see the logic myself.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on October 19, 2009, 07:39:19 PM
Quote from: Lawrence of Knockbride on October 19, 2009, 07:17:19 PM
Quote from: RacingPost09 on October 19, 2009, 06:24:33 PM
Cavanmaniac... I would like to know how you could praise any aspects of the Gaels performance when they got 4 men sent off in 80mins of football...thats just not acceptable.
If I may maniac........simple, you concentrate on the things they did well and praise them, which he did.
Quote from: Celt_Man on October 19, 2009, 04:35:46 PM
I think it is very harsh to concede a penalty for a technical foul in the small square.  Something like the keeper over carrying it or throwing the ball should be just a 13 m in my opinion but the rules are that a penalty should be awarded.

As for the yellow cards, my understanding is that if a player gets two yellows and then a red during a game, that the team can introduce a sub for that player at the start of extra time although the same player can't be re-introduced.

Also a yellow card received in the first 60 minutes has no bearing on extra time, it is essentially a new game so a player has to receive two yellows in extra time to get the line.   I think I can remember Forde getting a yellow early on in the first few minutes of extra time but am open to correction on that.
I found it strange too Celt Man but as I said this new rule about the yellows carrying over is supposed to be about 2 weeks old. I can't see the logic myself.

If you ask me they were only putting right what was a stupid rule in the 1st place. The idea that red and yellow cards could be written off when going into extra time is crazy and encourages all sorts of dirty acts in the final minutes of a tight game.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: JMohan on October 19, 2009, 07:54:24 PM
Quote from: RacingPost09 on October 19, 2009, 06:24:33 PM
Cavanmaniac... I would like to know how you could praise any aspects of the Gaels performance when they got 4 men sent off in 80mins of football...thats just not acceptable.
I don't think anyone can accept or defend that
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: milltown row on October 19, 2009, 08:09:26 PM
Quote from: cavanmaniac on October 19, 2009, 03:33:30 PM
Quote from: cavanmaniac on October 19, 2009, 12:40:28 PM
Now that's one side of the argument, the other of course is that their traditional headlessness cost them dear again...It's incredible for a team of their pedigree and experience that you have seasoned performers like Chesty, Walsh, Forde and Crotty all spitting the dummy or doing ridiculous, volatile, brainless things on the field in a vital game. Simply unbelieveable.

You might read that above passage I wrote before delivering any more sermons Drung.

Gaels let themselves down very badly in the end, I agree and said as much, but for the better part of the match and until they let their discipline go entirely, they were clearly full of determination and spirit, and stuck rigidly to the gameplan they had. I thought they defended very well at times, there were frequent turnovers and good dispossessions and they clipped some nice scores at times also. Until Galls started using their strong runners more in the second half, it was notable how the shadowing and marking employed by the Gaels defence forced them into playing raking balls crossfield in an effort to find space, way out wide, which contributed to the Galls wides tally when they did everntually shoot. Whatever about the nonsense later, there's a huge element of discipline involved there and at that stage, they were keeping the foul count down too.
They forced extra time with a man less on a day when they had 15 defenders covering every blade of grass , were unlucky to hit the post with a goal chancew when STILL only two down in extra time despite all, and they certainly never rolled over and meekly accepted defeat like a lot of Cavan teams I've been seeing in recent seasons.

There was still plenty to admire in the Gaels performance even if they let eventually themselves down very badly with the stupid stuff and if the county team employed the better aspects of the Gaels display we'd be a hell of a lot better off.

As for your simplistic aside about 'pushing the self destruct button' you might consider how Galls totally revamped their game and switched to running at the heart of the Gaels defence when they went six down and brought their wing backs into it (especially number seven) and also how their targetman gave them a whole new dimension from which a lot of key scores came from, but instead you're just interested in ragging on the Gaels while refusing to ackowledge they were playing a very good team as well.
I'm not a Gaels clubman or anything close but the petty refusal by a lot of football-watchers in the county to give them any credit whatsoever for anything they do beggars belief at times.

as you know the weather played a big part in the game, lads were falling all over the place, dropping balls and poor passes. our lads lost their confidence in playing the ball in. it kept coming out and we could not score simple frees. Big Darren give the players something to hit. He caused problems and the forwards work off the scraps.

sometimes the old fashion tactics can win you matches

as the Gaels lost their way then we simply over ran them with the half back line. anto Healy and Sean Kelly were great for st Galls
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on October 19, 2009, 09:20:07 PM
Quote from: JMohan on October 19, 2009, 07:54:24 PM
Quote from: RacingPost09 on October 19, 2009, 06:24:33 PM
Cavanmaniac... I would like to know how you could praise any aspects of the Gaels performance when they got 4 men sent off in 80mins of football...thats just not acceptable.
I don't think anyone can accept or defend that

I despair sometimes I really do. I can't figure out, is it that people just don't read what others write, or if they do actually read it, do they twist what's there into something it's not just so that they can get up on some sort of moral high horse and "put people in their place" like some sort of thread police.

I've consistently condemned the Gaels in no uncertain terms for losing their heads. Look back. It's there. I know because I've typed it twice or three times now.
All I praised, like the man pointed out above, was that leaving the nonsense aside (just in case anyone misses it this time) there was some laudable and admirable aspects to the Gaels play that I think would benefit the county team if they looked at it and decided to do likewise. Specificially the high energy, everyone working hard, refusing to die aspect to the Gaels on Sunday. That's what I meant by the "balls and gumption" reference that Drung took such exception to.

It's very easy lads, I don't know what all the cribbing is for.  ::)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on October 20, 2009, 08:33:28 AM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on October 19, 2009, 07:39:19 PM
Quote from: Lawrence of Knockbride on October 19, 2009, 07:17:19 PM
Quote from: RacingPost09 on October 19, 2009, 06:24:33 PM
Cavanmaniac... I would like to know how you could praise any aspects of the Gaels performance when they got 4 men sent off in 80mins of football...thats just not acceptable.
If I may maniac........simple, you concentrate on the things they did well and praise them, which he did.
Quote from: Celt_Man on October 19, 2009, 04:35:46 PM
I think it is very harsh to concede a penalty for a technical foul in the small square.  Something like the keeper over carrying it or throwing the ball should be just a 13 m in my opinion but the rules are that a penalty should be awarded.

As for the yellow cards, my understanding is that if a player gets two yellows and then a red during a game, that the team can introduce a sub for that player at the start of extra time although the same player can't be re-introduced.

Also a yellow card received in the first 60 minutes has no bearing on extra time, it is essentially a new game so a player has to receive two yellows in extra time to get the line.   I think I can remember Forde getting a yellow early on in the first few minutes of extra time but am open to correction on that.
I found it strange too Celt Man but as I said this new rule about the yellows carrying over is supposed to be about 2 weeks old. I can't see the logic myself.

If you ask me they were only putting right what was a stupid rule in the 1st place. The idea that red and yellow cards could be written off when going into extra time is crazy and encourages all sorts of dirty acts in the final minutes of a tight game.
The problem I have with it Myles is that they still let you go back to 15 men in ET so it's one rule for the red card and another for the yellow.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: jonb_cúl on October 20, 2009, 12:23:25 PM
 just a note here lads (apologies if it has already been mentioned) but the club semi finals in meath between o'mahoneys Vr Wolf tones had the same issue were wolf tones had a man red carded in extra time after receiving a yellow in normal time & one in extra time. this was overturned before the replay last weekend were he was allowed to play as far as i am aware.

Also, I heard a rumour that the man in charge on sunday with gaels/galls game is in employment in a large insurance company in the town. this has to be wrong on two levels;
A. He works in the area of one the teams
B. he works with a member of the geals teams (who may have been sent off!!!!)

On another note with the league campaign nearing its end for the year, who do you feel will be heading for division 2.
i think Cuchulainn maybe heading that way with Denn.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on October 20, 2009, 12:36:50 PM
Quote from: jonb_cúl on October 20, 2009, 12:23:25 PM
just a note here lads (apologies if it has already been mentioned) but the club semi finals in meath between o'mahoneys Vr Wolf tones had the same issue were wolf tones had a man red carded in extra time after receiving a yellow in normal time & one in extra time. this was overturned before the replay last weekend were he was allowed to play as far as i am aware.

Also, I heard a rumour that the man in charge on sunday with gaels/galls game is in employment in a large insurance company in the town. this has to be wrong on two levels;
A. He works in the area of one the teams
B. he works with a member of the geals teams (who may have been sent off!!!!)

On another note with the league campaign nearing its end for the year, who do you feel will be heading for division 2.
i think Cuchulainn maybe heading that way with Denn.

Nope I don't think that is correct.. what happened, as far as I know, was that the Wolfe Tones midfielder Stephen Sheppard got a straight red card in extra time in the drawn game last Sunday week.  Wolfe Tones made an appeal stating that extra time shouldn't have been played and so Sheppard's red card was null and void.  They were successful with this appeal and Sheppard played in his side's 3 point win over O'Mahony's last Sunday.
By the way, there is also a dirty rumour going around that O'Mahony's are going to appeal the fact that Sheppard was fit to play and consequently the result of the game.... some mess
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: jonb_cúl on October 20, 2009, 12:52:06 PM
christ, some mess as right celt man, aren't we bless that we have such well run CB!!!! :P
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on October 20, 2009, 01:25:31 PM
Quote from: jonb_cúl on October 20, 2009, 12:23:25 PM
just a note here lads (apologies if it has already been mentioned) but the club semi finals in meath between o'mahoneys Vr Wolf tones had the same issue were wolf tones had a man red carded in extra time after receiving a yellow in normal time & one in extra time. this was overturned before the replay last weekend were he was allowed to play as far as i am aware.

Also, I heard a rumour that the man in charge on sunday with gaels/galls game is in employment in a large insurance company in the town. this has to be wrong on two levels;
A. He works in the area of one the teams
B. he works with a member of the geals teams (who may have been sent off!!!!)

On another note with the league campaign nearing its end for the year, who do you feel will be heading for division 2.
i think Cuchulainn maybe heading that way with Denn.
Very subtle and you're correct on all points. I spoke to one of the gaels players who confirmed he was going to have a word with the ref on Monday morning. It shouldn't be hard to guess from that last sentence as to which player it is.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on October 20, 2009, 01:29:23 PM
Quote from: jonb_cúl on October 20, 2009, 12:52:06 PM
christ, some mess as right celt man, aren't we bless that we have such well run CB!!!! :P
Just heard that the Meath Senior Final is off this Sunday because O'Mahony's are going through with their appeal...
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: jonb_cúl on October 20, 2009, 05:09:16 PM
That'll mean that Meath won't be represented in this year's leinster club championship!!! its a pity because I saw Seneschalstown play there not so long ago in the championship & thought the played a lovely style of football, i.e good strength on the ball balanced with nice skill. Those Sheridan brothers would be a god send to any club!!

Is it true that the county panel at doing some boxing training, heard there was some sort of a boxing charity event taking place in the Imperial in December, if this is the case does any of the posters here know who is back in & who are new to the panel?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on October 20, 2009, 05:24:57 PM
Well a few were mentioned in a previous post and I was talking to a lad from Killeshadnra who said Tomás Reilly was training with them last week too.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on October 20, 2009, 05:54:23 PM
Quote from: jonb_cúl on October 20, 2009, 12:23:25 PM

Also, I heard a rumour that the man in charge on sunday with gaels/galls game is in employment in a large insurance company in the town. this has to be wrong on two levels;
A. He works in the area of one the teams
B. he works with a member of the geals teams (who may have been sent off!!!!)


Its an awful shame,as the player in question is a terrific footballer but its one side of his game that really lets him down.He really gets in referees faces when decisions aren't going his way but I suppose its too late for him to change at this stage.

I don't mean to be getting at the Gaels, but what sort of an example was our Coaching and Development Officer giving on Sunday? By all accounts it wasn't good. Would this be tolerated in other counties??
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on October 20, 2009, 06:30:16 PM
Quote from: Lawrence of Knockbride on October 20, 2009, 05:24:57 PM
Well a few were mentioned in a previous post and I was talking to a lad from Killeshadnra who said Tomás Reilly was training with them last week too.

Well if it is boxing they want there are a couple of other Killeshandra players that are fond of it. I never went into it much before but the behaviour of some of the leaguers the last game I was at (vrs Kingscourt) was a disgrace. Non stop niggle, boxing etc. They have a nasty element to their game which is doing them no favours since they are effectively a bunch of kids. It is a pointless bit of hard man macho shite that any manager with half a brain would have got out of them. If they bring it up to senior league with them they'll get the shite bet out of them.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Drung on October 20, 2009, 06:59:38 PM
QuoteIt is a pointless bit of hard man macho shite that any manager with half a brain would have got out of them
Warning, gratuitous Stephen King jibe here.

I'm joking Mylie, you are right in what you say. However, isn't Junior McKiernan the real manager out there as you revealed before? Surely he has a full brain and could stamp this out?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: beer baron on October 20, 2009, 07:04:41 PM
Well if it is boxing they want there are a couple of other Killeshandra players that are fond of it.

Your right myles and one of the chief culprits is a player a lot of people want in the cavan squad.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on October 20, 2009, 07:12:55 PM
Quote from: Drung on October 20, 2009, 06:59:38 PM
QuoteIt is a pointless bit of hard man macho shite that any manager with half a brain would have got out of them
Warning, gratuitous Stephen King jibe here.

I'm joking Mylie, you are right in what you say. However, isn't Junior McKiernan the real manager out there as you revealed before? Surely he has a full brain and could stamp this out?

He isn't the manager at all, whole new set up in this year.  Is it some Damien O'Reilly fella maybe??  Can't remember where he is from
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on October 20, 2009, 07:18:58 PM
Quote from: Drung on October 20, 2009, 06:59:38 PM
QuoteIt is a pointless bit of hard man macho shite that any manager with half a brain would have got out of them
Warning, gratuitous Stephen King jibe here.

I'm joking Mylie, you are right in what you say. However, isn't Junior McKiernan the real manager out there as you revealed before? Surely he has a full brain and could stamp this out?

Ciaran Reilly from Mullahoran was their manager this year. I remember somebody touching on this a good while back-a Bailieboro poster. It is more the verbal stuff some of them are fond off,like Beer Baron mentioned,but can't say they are any worse than a few other clubs around the County.A few of them mite have to learn a few harsh lessons in Division One -thats the best way it will be stamped out.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on October 20, 2009, 07:41:32 PM
Quote from: boojangles on October 20, 2009, 07:18:58 PM
Quote from: Drung on October 20, 2009, 06:59:38 PM
QuoteIt is a pointless bit of hard man macho shite that any manager with half a brain would have got out of them
Warning, gratuitous Stephen King jibe here.

I'm joking Mylie, you are right in what you say. However, isn't Junior McKiernan the real manager out there as you revealed before? Surely he has a full brain and could stamp this out?

Ciaran Reilly from Mullahoran was their manager this year. I remember somebody touching on this a good while back-a Bailieboro poster. It is more the verbal stuff some of them are fond off,like Beer Baron mentioned,but can't say they are any worse than a few other clubs around the County.A few of them mite have to learn a few harsh lessons in Division One -thats the best way it will be stamped out.

Aye they love the verbals... shouting at someone "ahh look at this fella, he is only a sub on an intermediate team" when a sub is coming onto the field is a bit stupid really... Especially when it was (at the time) Killeshandra's second game in the Intermediate/ Division 2 league last year.  Doubt it had the desired effect though, our sub started to laugh at him, really put him off his game like!!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on October 20, 2009, 09:52:29 PM
Quote from: Drung on October 20, 2009, 06:59:38 PM
QuoteIt is a pointless bit of hard man macho shite that any manager with half a brain would have got out of them
Warning, gratuitous Stephen King jibe here.

I'm joking Mylie, you are right in what you say. However, isn't Junior McKiernan the real manager out there as you revealed before? Surely he has a full brain and could stamp this out?
Are you being sarcastic Drung? Myles, set him straight on this one.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on October 20, 2009, 10:51:18 PM
I Played against Slashers twice this year,didnt find them any worse than a lot of other teams,
verbally or over physical.They certainly dont have the size  for the latter to be effective as they are a young skillfull light enough team.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: JMohan on October 21, 2009, 11:49:15 AM
Quote from: PhilsJemmysField on October 15, 2009, 05:45:13 PM
This is coming from county board minutes send out by our secretary, so looks like they are trying to shake up the strength side of things. Also looks like divisions or something might be going to change

Performance Facilitation Group.(Niall Lynch).
Niall spoke about the need for a strength and conditioning coach in Cavan . With this in mind Phil, Martin and Niall met with Fergus Connolly who is the strength and conditioning coach for Welsh Rugby.Fergus would train Cavan personnel to become aware of this type of training and would help in any way possible. This could be used by clubs also and would develop players to become possible County players.Niall stressed that this wasn't just for the term of the present team management but would continue with whatever management was in place.Phil thanked Niall for his contribution to the meeting.

Fixtures Task Force.
Phil spoke about the fixtures task force. Tony Brady said the presentation of this document was poor and we needed to be more professional inn this department.
Liam read out the points for discussion  and the main fear was the relegation fromm Division 3 to 4.
The first 10 and 12 names were not working and something was needed to improve this.
Some members felt that it was wrong of some clubs to organize a meeting among themselves. It was asked why clubs couldn't ask the County Board to facilitate such a meeting.
Phil said he would set up a committee and there would be another County Committee meeting to decide on the way forward.

If it's true that Fergus Connolly is assisting or helping on a structured basis - which I would be amazed at - you have to take your hat off to the County Board for going, getting and convincing him to work with them.
From what I've heard he's a very intelligent and very highly sought after sports science expert.

I just hope that if he or someone like him is helping the county that the coaches and players makes use of it and we can turn the county's football around.
I like the way Niall Lynch stressed it was a longer term plan too which is vital for any success down the line.
I'm not sure how they will ensure that if a new manager comes in they won't get rid of everything - but it sounds good anyway.

It does look as though it's the CB though who are doing all the work - not TC ... or is that just how it appears.

Won't get excited just yet, but I'll watch the developments over the winter with interest.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on October 21, 2009, 02:24:36 PM
Quote from: Thastheball on October 21, 2009, 02:13:23 PM
we can bring in all the S&C guru's in the world and it won't make any difference unless we start coaching in our clubs from u6 and u8s with real quality 10 months of the year.

JM don't get excited

The only problem with that is it will take 15 - 18 years to see the full benefits of that at Senior Inter County level so what do we do in the meantime?  Just forget about all the County teams until then??
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: JMohan on October 21, 2009, 04:38:59 PM
We can all find faults if we wait long enough and look hard enough. It's easy to be negative.

It seems like a genuine effort to bring some kind of professionalism to the structure - so why not be positive?

Sure one guru ain't going to change everything - but it's a positive step in my book
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: whats my name on October 21, 2009, 05:55:05 PM
Fergus Connolly as far as im aware is working in a consultancy role with the management not directly with the team so i have heard he's making out a conditioning plan for players based on position weight height etc
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Swadman on October 21, 2009, 09:09:32 PM
A friend of mine with Glencar Manorhamilton connections told me that they played a Cavan development team under lights in Breffni last week. They are the new Leitrim senior champs. He was told that Cavan had 3 development teams !!!
Incidently my neighbours, Corlough, are officially opening their pitch on Sunday next, 25th, with a game between Crossmaglen and   Glencar Manorhamilton. Mick O'Dwyer will say a few words too.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dougal on October 21, 2009, 09:51:41 PM
any word on the regional games?are they going to go ahead?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on October 22, 2009, 09:39:49 PM
Fermanagh in the Q-Final,I believe we are also at home?? Could be worse.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dougal on October 22, 2009, 09:58:28 PM
its at home?not so bad,were probably ranked as the two worst teams in ulster so dont think we could of hoped for much better.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: jonb_cúl on October 22, 2009, 10:12:07 PM
Not a bad draw at all. I didn't get to see the draw live, who will we meet if we get past Fermanagh if we can manage a win in the QF.

i don't know if the regional games are going ahead this year.

I know for a FACT that Mark McKeever has already got a phone call from TC to join the panel for training!!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on October 22, 2009, 10:32:57 PM
Lucky draw for us a home Qtr final with Fermanagh. Problem is they will think its a good draw too!

The winner will play Derry/Armagh or Monaghan in the semi.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: beer baron on October 22, 2009, 10:34:48 PM
I would've loved to get tyrone
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on October 22, 2009, 10:49:59 PM
Quote from: jonb_cúl on October 22, 2009, 10:12:07 PM
Not a bad draw at all. I didn't get to see the draw live, who will we meet if we get past Fermanagh if we can manage a win in the QF.

i don't know if the regional games are going ahead this year.

I know for a FACT that Mark McKeever has already got a phone call from TC to join the panel for training!!

Heard McKeever is back alright.Hopefully he is raring to go and ready to prove a point.
Doesnt look like the regional games are going ahead. TC must have abandoned his earlier plans. ::)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on October 22, 2009, 11:09:12 PM
This is what annoys me about Carr. Didn't he make a statement on the radio when questioned about his never attending club games saying he didn't need to as clubs would send their best players to regional games and here we are now and the games are abandoned. It does not augur well imo.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on October 22, 2009, 11:53:40 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on October 22, 2009, 11:09:12 PM
This is what annoys me about Carr. Didn't he make a statement on the radio when questioned about his never attending club games saying he didn't need to as clubs would send their best players to regional games and here we are now and the games are abandoned. It does not augur well imo.

Its hard to know what direction they are taking. One of the selectors was informed last year about a former Cavan player who had transferred to Meath(not too hard to figure out) and how he was still very keen to play in the Regional games and if good enough would love another shot with Cavan.The selectors reply was they were going for younger players.Fair enough. Until you see players of the same age being brought back in last year and even this year I hear a certain player who must be 30 has been called back in.
Ironically the Meath man went on to be the top scorer in the Meath Senior Championship after Cian Ward scoring something like 5-32 in the Championship.  Whats the bets TC hasnt even looked at him ::)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on October 23, 2009, 08:08:19 AM
Quote from: boojangles on October 22, 2009, 11:53:40 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on October 22, 2009, 11:09:12 PM
This is what annoys me about Carr. Didn't he make a statement on the radio when questioned about his never attending club games saying he didn't need to as clubs would send their best players to regional games and here we are now and the games are abandoned. It does not augur well imo.

Its hard to know what direction they are taking. One of the selectors was informed last year about a former Cavan player who had transferred to Meath(not too hard to figure out) and how he was still very keen to play in the Regional games and if good enough would love another shot with Cavan.The selectors reply was they were going for younger players.Fair enough. Until you see players of the same age being brought back in last year and even this year I hear a certain player who must be 30 has been called back in.
Ironically the Meath man went on to be the top scorer in the Meath Senior Championship after Cian Ward scoring something like 5-32 in the Championship.  Whats the bets TC hasnt even looked at him ::)

Same player has been very harshly treated over the years, its a wonder he has any interesy in playing for them. I thought he was a good player and I believe he is now lining out at FF down in Meath. But I suppose we have a huge amount of talented FF's so we don't need him!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on October 23, 2009, 04:19:02 PM
Fermanagh at home...not to bad, i think we all would have taken that.

Seniors and minor management teams I am sure are relatively pleased.

Any other goss with regards to the senior panel?

Was the under 21 draw made?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: whats my name on October 23, 2009, 05:41:52 PM
word on the street has it gareth smith (oliver plunketts) is coming down to train with cavan this weekend seemingly hes goin to play with us this year
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on October 23, 2009, 08:40:15 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on October 23, 2009, 08:08:19 AM
Quote from: boojangles on October 22, 2009, 11:53:40 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on October 22, 2009, 11:09:12 PM
This is what annoys me about Carr. Didn't he make a statement on the radio when questioned about his never attending club games saying he didn't need to as clubs would send their best players to regional games and here we are now and the games are abandoned. It does not augur well imo.

Its hard to know what direction they are taking. One of the selectors was informed last year about a former Cavan player who had transferred to Meath(not too hard to figure out) and how he was still very keen to play in the Regional games and if good enough would love another shot with Cavan.The selectors reply was they were going for younger players.Fair enough. Until you see players of the same age being brought back in last year and even this year I hear a certain player who must be 30 has been called back in.
Ironically the Meath man went on to be the top scorer in the Meath Senior Championship after Cian Ward scoring something like 5-32 in the Championship.  Whats the bets TC hasnt even looked at him ::)

Same player has been very harshly treated over the years, its a wonder he has any interesy in playing for them. I thought he was a good player and I believe he is now lining out at FF down in Meath. But I suppose we have a huge amount of talented FF's so we don't need him!

Ye we are brimming with talent as rite.Ye he is playing FF,He was called into the Meath panel 2 weeks before the AI Semi-Final but was injured.Good enough for Meath but obviously not the mighty Cavan.

Who's Gareth Smith??
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: whats my name on October 24, 2009, 12:46:20 AM
gareth ''nesty'' smith he's oliver plunketts captain he's probly one of the top forwards in dublin senior championship
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: JMohan on October 24, 2009, 09:11:47 AM
Quote from: boojangles on October 22, 2009, 11:53:40 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on October 22, 2009, 11:09:12 PM
This is what annoys me about Carr. Didn't he make a statement on the radio when questioned about his never attending club games saying he didn't need to as clubs would send their best players to regional games and here we are now and the games are abandoned. It does not augur well imo.

Its hard to know what direction they are taking. One of the selectors was informed last year about a former Cavan player who had transferred to Meath(not too hard to figure out) and how he was still very keen to play in the Regional games and if good enough would love another shot with Cavan.The selectors reply was they were going for younger players.Fair enough. Until you see players of the same age being brought back in last year and even this year I hear a certain player who must be 30 has been called back in.
Ironically the Meath man went on to be the top scorer in the Meath Senior Championship after Cian Ward scoring something like 5-32 in the Championship.  Whats the bets TC hasnt even looked at him ::)

It looks like (and sounds like) they are looking long term at this bringing in younger squad members and building for the future primarily along with a few older heads.
Looks like there has been a hell of a clear out too of players.

Which is both ironic and brave of TC - he's had a 'rocky' year and and now he's looking to build to the future - so either the CB have given him assurances he'll be there for longer than one more year or he's just foolish - he needs a good year or it'll be his last. 

Will be interesting to see what is done between now and the League this year as if there is no progress made and the League goes poorly I'd not expect much come championship time.

There's no doubt though some serious work needs to be done as against Antrim last year midfield was non-existent and there was no physical presence there a lot of the time and movement was poor I thought.

Anyone have an idea who's on the training panel etc?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on October 24, 2009, 09:48:37 AM
Quote from: JMohan on October 24, 2009, 09:11:47 AM
Quote from: boojangles on October 22, 2009, 11:53:40 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on October 22, 2009, 11:09:12 PM
This is what annoys me about Carr. Didn't he make a statement on the radio when questioned about his never attending club games saying he didn't need to as clubs would send their best players to regional games and here we are now and the games are abandoned. It does not augur well imo.

Its hard to know what direction they are taking. One of the selectors was informed last year about a former Cavan player who had transferred to Meath(not too hard to figure out) and how he was still very keen to play in the Regional games and if good enough would love another shot with Cavan.The selectors reply was they were going for younger players.Fair enough. Until you see players of the same age being brought back in last year and even this year I hear a certain player who must be 30 has been called back in.
Ironically the Meath man went on to be the top scorer in the Meath Senior Championship after Cian Ward scoring something like 5-32 in the Championship.  Whats the bets TC hasnt even looked at him ::)

It looks like (and sounds like) they are looking long term at this bringing in younger squad members and building for the future primarily along with a few older heads.
Looks like there has been a hell of a clear out too of players.

Which is both ironic and brave of TC - he's had a 'rocky' year and and now he's looking to build to the future - so either the CB have given him assurances he'll be there for longer than one more year or he's just foolish - he needs a good year or it'll be his last. 

Will be interesting to see what is done between now and the League this year as if there is no progress made and the League goes poorly I'd not expect much come championship time.

There's no doubt though some serious work needs to be done as against Antrim last year midfield was non-existent and there was no physical presence there a lot of the time and movement was poor I thought.

Anyone have an idea who's on the training panel etc?

See i am not so sure of this approach. He has asked serial offender Mark mcKeever back in and yet he is willing to exclude other possibly more dedicated players based on age? You either start with a clean slate for everyone or not at all.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: JMohan on October 24, 2009, 09:59:38 AM
You're right about one thing - he either goes balls out or not at all ... how old is McKeever now?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on October 24, 2009, 10:14:19 AM
Good question. McKeever must be 27 or so now.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on October 24, 2009, 11:26:55 AM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on October 24, 2009, 10:14:19 AM
Good question. McKeever must be 27 or so now.

McKeever is 25.Will be 26 start of next year. You would wonder if they have a plan at all.Ive heard enough stories at this stage that makes it clear that TC does not have the balls to do what is needed. He should have been doing a Liam Bradley last year but didnt.Now maybe he is trying a 'New Approach' but I don't see us winning any 'Derbies' TBH no matter what he tries.
What connection has this Gareth Smith got with Cavan??
Whatsthename you seem to have an inside track.Any big names not back in or whats happening?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: whats my name on October 24, 2009, 12:50:33 PM
his father is from cavan keogan tried to get gareth smith in before but i think he wasnt able to give his full commitment. i know raymond galligan is back in didnt hear of any absenties but you have a fair idea who will be left out jason anyway from speaking to the papers about carr. mc keever was at training last weekend so he's back anyway thank god we need players of his callibre playing for cavan we cant afford to leave them off the panel
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on October 24, 2009, 03:54:05 PM
Are teams alliowed train as a group over winter?  I thought there was a ban to reduce burnout.

Anyway, a nesty may join and  everyone reckons chesty should be  brought back .  Question is, is there a besty out there?????????????
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: JMohan on October 25, 2009, 12:01:44 PM
Quote from: Denn Forever on October 24, 2009, 03:54:05 PM
Are teams alliowed train as a group over winter?  I thought there was a ban to reduce burnout.

Anyway, a nesty may join and  everyone reckons chesty should be  brought back .  Question is, is there a besty out there?????????????

Burnout is for counties who stay in the SFC long enough to get it

Train away
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Drung on October 26, 2009, 11:14:47 PM
QuoteAnyway, a nesty may join and  everyone reckons chesty should be  brought back .  Question is, is there a besty out there?

Please denn forever, put up a little warning before posting anything so stupendously funny again. Man, that was some funny shit. I had no idea you were a professional comedian, and if you're not, you should be.
"Besty"! Brilliant.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on October 26, 2009, 11:36:25 PM
Quote from: Drung on October 26, 2009, 11:14:47 PM
QuoteAnyway, a nesty may join and  everyone reckons chesty should be  brought back .  Question is, is there a besty out there?

Please denn forever, put up a little warning before posting anything so stupendously funny again. Man, that was some funny shit. I had no idea you were a professional comedian, and if you're not, you should be.
"Besty"! Brilliant.

Perhaps you should put up a warning whenever you go to post full stop so that we can all just ignore it!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: whats my name on October 27, 2009, 03:41:14 PM
http://www.gaainfo.com/county.php?co=cavan
check out this website its called gaa info its very good you's might of heard of it before just discoverd it. its very good give's you info about players thats played for your county what they have scored in each game etc. just found out jason reilly has scored 34-94 in all competitions playing with cavan thats some scoring if you think about it
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on October 27, 2009, 04:27:03 PM
Quote from: whats my name on October 27, 2009, 03:41:14 PM
http://www.gaainfo.com/county.php?co=cavan
check out this website its called gaa info its very good you's might of heard of it before just discoverd it. its very good give's you info about players thats played for your county what they have scored in each game etc. just found out jason reilly has scored 34-94 in all competitions playing with cavan thats some scoring if you think about it
Hmmm... some glaring mistakes straight away... Conor McCarey certainly didn't play 77 games for Cavan and definitely didn't score 9 - 124 either!!  :D :D :D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: beer baron on October 27, 2009, 06:00:25 PM
You sure about that Celt man.Ha ha
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: whats my name on October 27, 2009, 06:03:47 PM
yea there is a few mistakes alright in it but most of it is fairly accurate
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: whats my name on October 27, 2009, 06:10:32 PM
connor mc carey must be larry reilly i presume
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on October 27, 2009, 07:44:47 PM
Quote from: whats my name on October 27, 2009, 06:10:32 PM
connor mc carey must be larry reilly i presume
He certainly is not. I see two of our regulars will be battling it out this weekend for the last semi-final spot in division 2 or is that the right term to use saying as there's no promotion to be won for either club?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: beer baron on October 27, 2009, 08:14:09 PM
Ah yeah awrence they're battling for semi fnal spot.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Aaron on October 27, 2009, 08:37:12 PM
Them semi-finals are a waste of time, whoever tops the league should get the cup.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on October 27, 2009, 08:44:44 PM
Well I would've thought the same but having spoken to a few involved they feel like they might as well go for the trophy with only two games left. Intersting to hear whaty Celt Man and Ballyhaise Man think.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Aaron on October 27, 2009, 10:08:55 PM
Quote from: Lawrence of Knockbride on October 27, 2009, 08:44:44 PM
Well I would've thought the same but having spoken to a few involved they feel like they might as well go for the trophy with only two games left. Intersting to hear whaty Celt Man and Ballyhaise Man think.

Yeah they may as well try and win the trophy now.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: CC1 on October 28, 2009, 09:22:11 AM
Well lads, does anyone know what the situation is with relegation from Division 2? Cavan Gaels are level on points with Shercock after Shercock's win at Drung this weekend. Gaels B team are suspended from playing any games for another while yet. Will there be a playoff or is that Cavan Gaels relegated?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on October 28, 2009, 10:24:34 AM
Quote from: CC1 on October 28, 2009, 09:22:11 AM
Well lads, does anyone know what the situation is with relegation from Division 2? Cavan Gaels are level on points with Shercock after Shercock's win at Drung this weekend. Gaels B team are suspended from playing any games for another while yet. Will there be a playoff or is that Cavan Gaels relegated?

Was asking the same question myself last night.It seems a right mess. Also the situation in Division 1. If Cucus beat Ballinagh at the wkend then Lavey are relegated.Surely this situation should have been avoided with Lavey and CuCus playing their final games at the same time.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: RacingPost09 on October 28, 2009, 10:55:52 AM
Phil Smith has officially retired as Cavan County Board Chairman.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on October 28, 2009, 11:48:40 AM
Quote from: RacingPost09 on October 28, 2009, 10:55:52 AM
Phil Smith has officially retired as Cavan County Board Chairman.

From when?? Was his term up at the end of this year?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: jonb_cúl on October 28, 2009, 01:19:44 PM
Quote from: RacingPost09 on October 28, 2009, 10:55:52 AM
Phil Smith has officially retired as Cavan County Board Chairman.

Christ, I was sure he had 1 year left of his 3 year term!!! Maybe our county secretory will take the same route & allow some new fresh blood into these roles & allow everything in this county to move forward.

I see there is one semi final spot down for Friday night week in breffni, what is the story with Cavan Gaels and who will they be playing!! So much for having all round 13 games played on the same date, time etc. Just like every year there is a big push to get the ACFL started around March/April then come October/November the CB decide to rub their arses to it, bloody disgrace if you ask me >:(
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Blue06 on October 28, 2009, 03:15:08 PM
Was asking the same question myself last night.It seems a right mess. Also the situation in Division 1. If Cucus beat Ballinagh at the wkend then Lavey are relegated.Surely this situation should have been avoided with Lavey and CuCus playing their final games at the same time.


It will get messier than that boojangles if Cucus beat Ballinagh(as they probably will).

This will mean Lavey relegated, but Crosserlough will have stayed up by getting 2 points out of their tie with Gowna that wasn't played because Gowna are suspended.

Lavey should rightly appeal this.

Whats the chances of the CB scrapping relegation from Div 1 this year (similiar to the Intermediate Relegation fiasco with Killenkere last year) to appease everyone.?

They have already set a precedent last year to cleaning up their mess.



Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on October 28, 2009, 04:49:51 PM
Quote from: Blue06 on October 28, 2009, 03:15:08 PM
Was asking the same question myself last night.It seems a right mess. Also the situation in Division 1. If Cucus beat Ballinagh at the wkend then Lavey are relegated.Surely this situation should have been avoided with Lavey and CuCus playing their final games at the same time.


It will get messier than that boojangles if Cucus beat Ballinagh(as they probably will).

This will mean Lavey relegated, but Crosserlough will have stayed up by getting 2 points out of their tie with Gowna that wasn't played because Gowna are suspended.

Lavey should rightly appeal this.

Whats the chances of the CB scrapping relegation from Div 1 this year (similiar to the Intermediate Relegation fiasco with Killenkere last year) to appease everyone.?

They have already set a precedent last year to cleaning up their mess.


Uhhh??  What happened last year with Killinkere?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on October 28, 2009, 07:08:54 PM
Quote from: Celt_Man on October 28, 2009, 04:49:51 PM
Quote from: Blue06 on October 28, 2009, 03:15:08 PM
Was asking the same question myself last night.It seems a right mess. Also the situation in Division 1. If Cucus beat Ballinagh at the wkend then Lavey are relegated.Surely this situation should have been avoided with Lavey and CuCus playing their final games at the same time.


It will get messier than that boojangles if Cucus beat Ballinagh(as they probably will).

This will mean Lavey relegated, but Crosserlough will have stayed up by getting 2 points out of their tie with Gowna that wasn't played because Gowna are suspended.

Lavey should rightly appeal this.

Whats the chances of the CB scrapping relegation from Div 1 this year (similiar to the Intermediate Relegation fiasco with Killenkere last year) to appease everyone.?

They have already set a precedent last year to cleaning up their mess.


Uhhh??  What happened last year with Killinkere?

Killinkere,Swad,Laragh and Drumalee were involved in the Relegation play-offs last year from the Intermediate Championship as none of them clubs had won a game but Killinkere maintained that they shouldn't hav to play in the relegation due to some loop hole that the CB had left open.Can't rightly remember what exactly now but they appealed it and the Relegation play-offs were held up for 7 or 8 weeks.Killinkere ended up winning the appeal.
I think thats why there is no relegation from Intermediate this or next year to have an even number of clubs in the Championship and no 3 team groups,which was the whole problem initially I think.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on October 28, 2009, 07:19:39 PM
Quote from: boojangles on October 28, 2009, 07:08:54 PM
Quote from: Celt_Man on October 28, 2009, 04:49:51 PM
Quote from: Blue06 on October 28, 2009, 03:15:08 PM
Was asking the same question myself last night.It seems a right mess. Also the situation in Division 1. If Cucus beat Ballinagh at the wkend then Lavey are relegated.Surely this situation should have been avoided with Lavey and CuCus playing their final games at the same time.


It will get messier than that boojangles if Cucus beat Ballinagh(as they probably will).

This will mean Lavey relegated, but Crosserlough will have stayed up by getting 2 points out of their tie with Gowna that wasn't played because Gowna are suspended.

Lavey should rightly appeal this.

Whats the chances of the CB scrapping relegation from Div 1 this year (similiar to the Intermediate Relegation fiasco with Killenkere last year) to appease everyone.?

They have already set a precedent last year to cleaning up their mess.


Uhhh??  What happened last year with Killinkere?

Killinkere,Swad,Laragh and Drumalee were involved in the Relegation play-offs last year from the Intermediate Championship as none of them clubs had won a game but Killinkere maintained that they shouldn't hav to play in the relegation due to some loop hole that the CB had left open.Can't rightly remember what exactly now but they appealed it and the Relegation play-offs were held up for 7 or 8 weeks.Killinkere ended up winning the appeal.
I think thats why there is no relegation from Intermediate this or next year to have an even number of clubs in the Championship and no 3 team groups,which was the whole problem initially I think.

Aha yes, remember that whole mess last year now.  Yea I believe that is the thinking behind no relegation this year and next, they want to have 16 teams in the Intermediate Championship by 2011.  I thought that the same was happening in the senior championship (no relegation for 2 years and then 16 teams by 2011) but obviously not.  They obviously want 14 clubs and then 2 amalgamations - which make a c**t of the whole thing but sure...
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: whats my name on October 28, 2009, 11:35:06 PM
the seniors where playing 2night anyone hear how they got on they were playing monaghan i think!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dougal on October 29, 2009, 01:42:45 PM
they lost,not sure of the score,galligan from killygary in goals 1st half,2nd half andrew "taz" smith fom cornafean in goals,cunningham from swad fullback,barry mcmenamin from kill corner back.thats what ive heard so far.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on October 29, 2009, 01:45:08 PM
I haven't seen that Taz lad play since he was a minor and he played wing-forward. I wouldn't have thought he was up to it?
I don't know much about the others.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on October 29, 2009, 02:09:43 PM
Quote from: Dougal on October 29, 2009, 01:42:45 PM
they lost,not sure of the score,galligan from killygary in goals 1st half,2nd half andrew "taz" smith fom cornafean in goals,cunningham from swad fullback,barry mcmenamin from kill corner back.thats what ive heard so far.

That can't be right
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on October 29, 2009, 03:39:56 PM
Quote from: Lawrence of Knockbride on October 27, 2009, 08:44:44 PM
Well I would've thought the same but having spoken to a few involved they feel like they might as well go for the trophy with only two games left. Intersting to hear whaty Celt Man and Ballyhaise Man think.

yeh i dont mind,From a personal point of view its good to be playing at this time ,hopefully if we beat Celts on Saturday,we can get a few more weeks football.
It beats going to the gym to keep fit in the offseason anyway!!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on October 29, 2009, 04:22:35 PM
Quote from: Dougal on October 29, 2009, 01:42:45 PM
they lost,not sure of the score,galligan from killygary in goals 1st half,2nd half andrew "taz" smith fom cornafean in goals,cunningham from swad fullback,barry mcmenamin from kill corner back.thats what ive heard so far.

Neither can that??
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on October 29, 2009, 06:10:34 PM
Quote from: boojangles on October 29, 2009, 04:22:35 PM
Quote from: Dougal on October 29, 2009, 01:42:45 PM
they lost,not sure of the score,galligan from killygary in goals 1st half,2nd half andrew "taz" smith fom cornafean in goals,cunningham from swad fullback,barry mcmenamin from kill corner back.thats what ive heard so far.

Neither can that??

God, what kind of a team was out! Be interested to hear a few more names if anyone knows
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dougal on October 29, 2009, 06:24:56 PM
taz isnt too bad at all,was he not on the u21s last year or the year before?
i thought mcmenamin was a centre half back,or are you questioning him being there at all(never got to see him play,so dont know how good he is)?
forgot to mention,mckeever was playing but i heard he didnt play like he was bothered at all.damian reilly from belturbet is on the panel,not sure if he was playing though.bud fitz from belturbet aswell,heard he had a decent game and scored 2 lovely points.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on October 29, 2009, 06:29:27 PM
Quote from: Dougal on October 29, 2009, 06:24:56 PM
taz isnt too bad at all,was he not on the u21s last year or the year before?
i thought mcmenamin was a centre half back,or are you questioning him being there at all(never got to see him play,so dont know how good he is)?
forgot to mention,mckeever was playing but i heard he didnt play like he was bothered at all.damian reilly from belturbet is on the panel,not sure if he was playing though.bud fitz from belturbet aswell,heard he had a decent game and scored 2 lovely points.

Ah he is alright but there would be a few keepers that would be better than him. I presume the game was for lads that had nothing to do with the set-up last year??

If it is, then no harm to giving lads a go, worst thing that they can find out is that they are not good enough. I'd say TC is looking for a round 5-10 new players to come into panel. How is Paddy Gumley these days, playing wise?

Bud Fitz has a sweet boot on him. I would imagine he will play a role with the u21's this year aswell
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dougal on October 29, 2009, 07:04:23 PM
ye,id say hes just trying out new players.walsh was at the game but wasnt playing.
only saw paddy once this year,was as good as he was last year,but hopefully he can find his form again.
id say bud will play a big enough part this year alright.

Carr seems to be putting in a good bit of effort this year,hopefully he has a brain to go along with the effort because he had neither last year.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: the salmon of knowledge on October 30, 2009, 02:59:34 PM
heard joey jordan was asked to go in but declined.
garreth smith played on the 40 and kicked a point.
they might not be going anywhere with that taz lad in goals, biggest liability since the drumalee goalie in the lavey/drumalee match in breffni this year
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: the salmon of knowledge on October 30, 2009, 03:09:39 PM
and anyway to be honest alot of lads could go. walsh did nothing all year including the 2nd half of the galls game where he was terrible. Flanagan has not put in a man of the match preformance for club or county in years everyone praises miller, yet he was the cause of almost every goal cavan conceded in the league this year, apart from longford when fintian was in nets.galligan for all his dedication just is not good enough, mckenna served him a lesson in midfielding this year.
i know these views might annoy a few people but that is the way i see it. too many small men on the team. I, for one am glad to see mckeever back but  not going to get carried away as he has let the side down before.

in short getting out of div 3 and doing slightly better in the back door will be a good year for cavan.  suit the county board better to focous on football in primary school and getting some good sctructures in place to bring these kids on. does anyone think it was a coidence that a year after contesteing the AI u21 final that we won ulster. until we start winning at underage again we will not be competitive at senior
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on October 30, 2009, 03:28:38 PM
Andrew Smith wasnt great from what i heard of his trial on the under 21's,unless he was improved greatly he wont be up to it at IC level.
Celt Man,a heads up,if you dont know already, im  sure our game tommorow will be off as Charlie Reily(RIP)a brother of our club chairman died today after a long battle with cancer.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on October 30, 2009, 03:31:57 PM
Quote from: the salmon of knowledge on October 30, 2009, 03:09:39 PM
and anyway to be honest alot of lads could go. walsh did nothing all year including the 2nd half of the galls game where he was terrible. Flanagan has not put in a man of the match preformance for club or county in years everyone praises miller, yet he was the cause of almost every goal cavan conceded in the league this year, apart from longford when fintian was in nets.galligan for all his dedication just is not good enough, mckenna served him a lesson in midfielding this year.
i know these views might annoy a few people but that is the way i see it. too many small men on the team. I, for one am glad to see mckeever back but  not going to get carried away as he has let the side down before.

in short getting out of div 3 and doing slightly better in the back door will be a good year for cavan.  suit the county board better to focous on football in primary school and getting some good sctructures in place to bring these kids on. does anyone think it was a coidence that a year after contesteing the AI u21 final that we won ulster. until we start winning at underage again we will not be competitive at senior

dont know why anyone would be annoyed at those comments,you're 100% spot on with everything you posted there. We do not have enough big men on the team.
I rate Miller very highly but he did not have his best year last year,Paddy Galligan of Killygarry is the man that should be brought in to challenge him for the number 1 jersey in my opinion.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on October 30, 2009, 04:49:07 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on October 30, 2009, 03:28:38 PM
Andrew Smith wasnt great from what i heard of his trial on the under 21's,unless he was improved greatly he wont be up to it at IC level.
Celt Man,a heads up,if you dont know already, im  sure our game tommorow will be off as Charlie Reily(RIP)a brother of our club chairman died today after a long battle with cancer.
Fair enough, sorry to hear about the man... that'll push the league back another week so middle of November when it's over now.. Madness when you consider it started the last weekend of February
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on October 30, 2009, 05:42:36 PM
Quote from: Celt_Man on October 30, 2009, 04:49:07 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on October 30, 2009, 03:28:38 PM
Andrew Smith wasnt great from what i heard of his trial on the under 21's,unless he was improved greatly he wont be up to it at IC level.
Celt Man,a heads up,if you dont know already, im  sure our game tommorow will be off as Charlie Reily(RIP)a brother of our club chairman died today after a long battle with cancer.
Fair enough, sorry to hear about the man... that'll push the league back another week so middle of November when it's over now.. Madness when you consider it started the last weekend of February

Havent heard any news about the cancellation just yet,but i cant see it going ahead.
League could and should have been over months ago.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on October 30, 2009, 06:04:48 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on October 30, 2009, 05:42:36 PM
Quote from: Celt_Man on October 30, 2009, 04:49:07 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on October 30, 2009, 03:28:38 PM
Andrew Smith wasnt great from what i heard of his trial on the under 21's,unless he was improved greatly he wont be up to it at IC level.
Celt Man,a heads up,if you dont know already, im  sure our game tommorow will be off as Charlie Reily(RIP)a brother of our club chairman died today after a long battle with cancer.
Fair enough, sorry to hear about the man... that'll push the league back another week so middle of November when it's over now.. Madness when you consider it started the last weekend of February

Havent heard any news about the cancellation just yet,but i cant see it going ahead.
League could and should have been over months ago.
Yea well I don't know about Laragh but the downpour that was coming down for about a solid hour here around half 4 or so was unbelievable.... there'll be some slipping and sliding going on if it does go ahead
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on October 30, 2009, 06:30:22 PM
Quote from: descartes on October 30, 2009, 06:19:02 PM

Quotei know these views might annoy a few people but that is the way i see it.

ur right there

Quotegalligan for all his dedication just is not good enough, mckenna served him a lesson in midfielding this year.


I remember reading this on this message board at the time and being a bit bemused. i was at that match and actually thought Galligan played quite well. People seem to be getting carried away with the fact that McKenna caught three balls in the first half from kickouts. that hardly amounts to giving a lesson to his opponent especially in light of what Galligan contributed himself that day. He kicked three points from play (out of 7 for his team i think). Won another free that was converted. He burned McKenna on quite a few occasions on some solo runs notably in the first half, at one stage McKenna lunged out at him to rugby tackle him as galligan flew past earning a yellow card.. Later in the 2nd half  McKenna got sent off for picking up his 2nd yellow. Drung won by a point. And McKenna gets lauded for a virtuoso performance?? Galligan caught one ball himself, and broke ball down to his half forward line in particular all day long. This is not meant to be a sleight on McKenna by the way, in fact i reckon if he wanted he could still do a job at intercounty level for cavan. i'm just pointing out what i perceive to be a lack of appreciation as to what Ciaran Galligan brings to the table. Galligan in my opinion is improving all the time.. come to think of it, he's quite similar to McKenna in that respect who was floating around the panel for a few years but didn't really start making a difference untill he was 26/27/28 ...and then he retired...
I reckon Galligan will be making a difference before he's 26. what is he? 23? just gone 24 maybe?

So what we are getting now is a big call to invest in the primary schools, invest in the secondary schools, invest in the minors, invest in the u21s. yes. of course. not that i trust our county board to do this effectively, they've been doing coaching now for ten years or so, what has it brought us? invest in the educators i say. invest in coaches/managers equip them to teach young lads not just technical but tactical skill sets too. cavan are so far behind in this regard its scary.

but just as important, lets bloody well invest in Ciaran Galligan. Right now investing in a player like him is just as important as investing in a prodigious 18 year old. because when that fella reaches 22 (realistically the youngest age that you can rely on him to consistently produce high performances) he's going to need a Ciaran Galligan beside him, influencing him, showing him dedication, and not a Laurence, or a Dermot, or a jason, showing him how to drink pints/eat pizza/complain/demoralise others around the panel/and fall out of shape... or what ever else was rumoured to have occurred over the past 10 years..

note to lawyers
(Laurence Dermot and Jason are totally fictious names, any resemblance to real people is totally coincidental and accidental)

well... its just a thought...

Not gonna comment on most of that rant... but as for the bit highlighted - look there is no need to start running down the three boys like that.  All of them have given Cavan unbelievable service over a long number of years through the good and bad times. 

I realise that the three of them are not perfect and have sinned in the past but I can remember so many games where one of them have pulled us out of the fire.  There is no need for smart asred comments like that, if anyone didn't know better reading your comment you'd think the three of them were three Rab C Nesbit characters who never done any good at all
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dougal on October 30, 2009, 06:48:59 PM
galligan just isnt good enough for county.a place on the panel is all he should have,no way should he be starting matches.

that rant bout the three lads was totally uncalled for,ye,they wernt saints,but no need for that ****.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on October 30, 2009, 06:54:45 PM
Quote from: descartes on October 30, 2009, 06:44:49 PM
QuoteNot gonna comment on most of that rant... but as for the bit highlighted - look there is no need to start running down the three boys like that.  All of them have given Cavan unbelievable service over a long number of years through the good and bad times.

I realise that the three of them are not perfect and have sinned in the past but I can remember so many games where one of them have pulled us out of the fire.  There is no need for smart asred comments like that, if anyone didn't know better reading your comment you'd think the three of them were three Rab C Nesbit characters who never done any good at all

eh.. what you on about? those three names are all fictitious... is that smart arsed enough for ya!!
Why are you trying to make it personal?  Seen as how you think you know who I am
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Drung on October 30, 2009, 07:14:32 PM
Quotegalligan just isnt good enough for county.a place on the panel is all he should have,no way should he be starting matches.

What's the point being on the panel if you're not good enough to start matches? Just for the sake of it?
What an idiotic comment.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on October 30, 2009, 07:16:49 PM
Quote from: descartes on October 30, 2009, 07:11:38 PM
QuoteWhy are you trying to make it personal?

trying to make it personal???? Maybe you made this personal months and months ago!!!!

ooooh, and here comes the irony

QuoteThere is no need for smart asred comments

hmmmm, i'd be taking your own advice from now on celt man.
How did I make this personal?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on October 30, 2009, 07:24:47 PM
Quote from: descartes on October 30, 2009, 06:51:50 PM
Quotegalligan just isnt good enough for county.a place on the panel is all he should have,no way should he be starting matches.

ok so, if not galligan then who should play midifield?

Fair enough he is not the worlds ultimate footballer, but I think we are all in agreement that our team over the last few years has been a little bit small. So if we run Galligan out, where are you all planning to find a 6,4 footballer that can kick, catch, and is athletic??? Fact is, there are feck all of them. So will we play Cullivan midfield, who is what 5'10, because he is a better all round player? He would be outjumped by every other IC midfielder in the country.

It really pisses me off when people say he is just not good enough. Every player has good and bad points. The trick is to coach the player and make the best of him. Galligan will never be a brilliant all-round player but he can improve and do a job with the right coaching and education. He is well capable of being competitive and getting the job done. He is only 23 or 24, he will improve in time.

GAA is not like soccer, you can't just buy in a new players. You've got to coach what you got and make the most out of them. Help them improve individually to help the team improve that's what I say.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on October 30, 2009, 08:44:37 PM
Quote from: put-it-up on October 30, 2009, 07:24:47 PM
Quote from: descartes on October 30, 2009, 06:51:50 PM
Quotegalligan just isnt good enough for county.a place on the panel is all he should have,no way should he be starting matches.

ok so, if not galligan then who should play midifield?

Fair enough he is not the worlds ultimate footballer, but I think we are all in agreement that our team over the last few years has been a little bit small. So if we run Galligan out, where are you all planning to find a 6,4 footballer that can kick, catch, and is athletic??? Fact is, there are feck all of them. So will we play Cullivan midfield, who is what 5'10, because he is a better all round player? He would be outjumped by every other IC midfielder in the country.

It really pisses me off when people say he is just not good enough. Every player has good and bad points. The trick is to coach the player and make the best of him. Galligan will never be a brilliant all-round player but he can improve and do a job with the right coaching and education. He is well capable of being competitive and getting the job done. He is only 23 or 24, he will improve in time.

GAA is not like soccer, you can't just buy in a new players. You've got to coach what you got and make the most out of them. Help them improve individually to help the team improve that's what I say.

Agree with that. For years we have being relying on McCabe to catch every kick out because we know that if the ball goes loose McCabe hasn't the legs to chase it down. For years we have been destroyed by running midfielders able to run up and down the field all day. Galligan gives us a bit of that. There is not one other midfielder on the panel last 5 years that was a runner. Galligan does a lot of work that is not appreciated mainly by people that don't have a clue. Its not all about making the big catch or kicking a point if the rest of the game you are getting eaten. It is also easy to say a lad isn't good enough for IC football but even if that statement were true it misses the point. All that matters is that we get the best players in Cavan on the panel training hard. If Galligan isn't IC standard is Mulvey, Walsh, Cullivan?? Maybe none of players are IC standard, should we just stop fielding a team?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on October 30, 2009, 08:52:04 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on October 30, 2009, 08:44:37 PM
Quote from: put-it-up on October 30, 2009, 07:24:47 PM
Quote from: descartes on October 30, 2009, 06:51:50 PM
Quotegalligan just isnt good enough for county.a place on the panel is all he should have,no way should he be starting matches.

ok so, if not galligan then who should play midifield?

Fair enough he is not the worlds ultimate footballer, but I think we are all in agreement that our team over the last few years has been a little bit small. So if we run Galligan out, where are you all planning to find a 6,4 footballer that can kick, catch, and is athletic??? Fact is, there are feck all of them. So will we play Cullivan midfield, who is what 5'10, because he is a better all round player? He would be outjumped by every other IC midfielder in the country.

It really pisses me off when people say he is just not good enough. Every player has good and bad points. The trick is to coach the player and make the best of him. Galligan will never be a brilliant all-round player but he can improve and do a job with the right coaching and education. He is well capable of being competitive and getting the job done. He is only 23 or 24, he will improve in time.

GAA is not like soccer, you can't just buy in a new players. You've got to coach what you got and make the most out of them. Help them improve individually to help the team improve that's what I say.

Agree with that. For years we have being relying on McCabe to catch every kick out because we know that if the ball goes loose McCabe hasn't the legs to chase it down. For years we have been destroyed by running midfielders able to run up and down the field all day. Galligan gives us a bit of that. There is not one other midfielder on the panel last 5 years that was a runner. Galligan does a lot of work that is not appreciated mainly by people that don't have a clue. Its not all about making the big catch or kicking a point if the rest of the game you are getting eaten. It is also easy to say a lad isn't good enough for IC football but even if that statement were true it misses the point. All that matters is that we get the best players in Cavan on the panel training hard. If Galligan isn't IC standard is Mulvey, Walsh, Cullivan?? Maybe none of players are IC standard, should we just stop fielding a team?
Exactly. Like the time Joe Brolly said that our players weren't even first cousins of IC players and Michael Lyster put him right by saying that it's the best that they've got.
I would agree with the original point in relation to Walsh though as I don't think he offers a whole lot and there are better players than him. I'd agree to bring in some strong competition for Miller to see how he reacts but to leave Flanagan out because he hasn't put in a MOTM performance beggars belief. We haven't had too many of them in the last few years.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dougal on October 31, 2009, 01:36:18 AM
Quote from: Drung on October 30, 2009, 07:14:32 PM
Quotegalligan just isnt good enough for county.a place on the panel is all he should have,no way should he be starting matches.

What's the point being on the panel if you're not good enough to start matches? Just for the sake of it?
What an idiotic comment.

i meant hes not good enough to start all or even most matches.also i meant not good enough at the minute,hes got a good work rate and is one of the tallest lads we have,so with a good bit of work he could be a decent IC footballer,so thats why id have him on the panel.

heard miller has quit,anyone else hear about it?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: beer baron on October 31, 2009, 11:23:09 AM
In fairness lads when does Miller be involved at this time of the year,i'd safely say he'll be about come Championship time.Maybe if hewas with the squad this time of the year he could lose some of his arse and move out quicker to get a ball.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: the salmon of knowledge on October 31, 2009, 11:26:55 AM
Quote from: descartes on October 30, 2009, 06:19:02 PM

Quotei know these views might annoy a few people but that is the way i see it.

ur right there

Quotegalligan for all his dedication just is not good enough, mckenna served him a lesson in midfielding this year.


I remember reading this on this message board at the time and being a bit bemused. i was at that match and actually thought Galligan played quite well. People seem to be getting carried away with the fact that McKenna caught three balls in the first half from kickouts. that hardly amounts to giving a lesson to his opponent especially in light of what Galligan contributed himself that day. He kicked three points from play (out of 7 for his team i think). Won another free that was converted. He burned McKenna on quite a few occasions on some solo runs notably in the first half, at one stage McKenna lunged out at him to rugby tackle him as galligan flew past earning a yellow card.. Later in the 2nd half  McKenna got sent off for picking up his 2nd yellow. Drung won by a point. And McKenna gets lauded for a virtuoso performance?? Galligan caught one ball himself, and broke ball down to his half forward line in particular all day long. This is not meant to be a sleight on McKenna by the way, in fact i reckon if he wanted he could still do a job at intercounty level for cavan. i'm just pointing out what i perceive to be a lack of appreciation as to what Ciaran Galligan brings to the table. Galligan in my opinion is improving all the time.. come to think of it, he's quite similar to McKenna in that respect who was floating around the panel for a few years but didn't really start making a difference untill he was 26/27/28 ...and then he retired...
I reckon Galligan will be making a difference before he's 26. what is he? 23? just gone 24 maybe?

So what we are getting now is a big call to invest in the primary schools, invest in the secondary schools, invest in the minors, invest in the u21s. yes. of course. not that i trust our county board to do this effectively, they've been doing coaching now for ten years or so, what has it brought us? invest in the educators i say. invest in coaches/managers equip them to teach young lads not just technical but tactical skill sets too. cavan are so far behind in this regard its scary.

but just as important, lets bloody well invest in Ciaran Galligan. Right now investing in a player like him is just as important as investing in a prodigious 18 year old. because when that fella reaches 22 (realistically the youngest age that you can rely on him to consistently produce high performances) he's going to need a Ciaran Galligan beside him, influencing him, showing him dedication, and not a Laurence, or a Dermot, or a jason, showing him how to drink pints/eat pizza/complain/demoralise others around the panel/and fall out of shape... or what ever else was rumoured to have occurred over the past 10 years..

note to lawyers
(Laurence Dermot and Jason are totally fictious names, any resemblance to real people is totally coincidental and accidental)

well... its just a thought...


sorry, on reading things back, i did not make myself clear enough in my point about galligan/mckenna. to the best of my knowledge mckenna is 34/35, now if our first choice championship midfielder cannot outfield a man 10 years his senior then i am worried. you are right about all the good things galligan did, but you fail to mention how everything good that kill did that day went through mckenna, his distribution and general play was the bet of any kill player on show(now thats not saying much as the game was terrible)

on another point i do agree 100% with investing in the coaches for the schools and equipment, i know for a fact in my  local national school the kids are not allowed KICK a football, yes kick one!! they can play basketball at lunchtime and only kick a ball when the GAA coach comes in. this, in years to come will hamper my clubs players as they will have missed out on 5 of theyre most formative years as a gealic footballer!  its madness.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: the salmon of knowledge on October 31, 2009, 11:37:57 AM
Lawerence, Flanagan has not even played well for his club in 2 years, i just expect IC footballers to be the standout men on show for their clubs sorry, i am showing a very negative attitude to the whole thing suppose its cause i am so pissed off with the CB, have to go and play a bloody game now at 2 o clock, on the last day of Oct, its a disgrace, and all the weekends of the summer i did nothing.

on the subject of midfielders actually fielding the ball, did anyone notice the ease  at which Tyrone changed their game plan when they played Antrim. they never attempted to contest the kickouts with antrim instead waited till mccann landed and swarmed him and dispossed him. from all the champ matches i have been at this summer i dont think i seen anyone who can field the ball well enough and is good enough to play at IC.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on October 31, 2009, 04:05:48 PM
Quote from: the salmon of knowledge on October 31, 2009, 11:37:57 AM
Lawerence, Flanagan has not even played well for his club in 2 years, i just expect IC footballers to be the standout men on show for their clubs sorry, i am showing a very negative attitude to the whole thing suppose its cause i am so pissed off with the CB, have to go and play a bloody game now at 2 o clock, on the last day of Oct, its a disgrace, and all the weekends of the summer i did nothing.

on the subject of midfielders actually fielding the ball, did anyone notice the ease  at which Tyrone changed their game plan when they played Antrim. they never attempted to contest the kickouts with antrim instead waited till mccann landed and swarmed him and dispossed him. from all the champ matches i have been at this summer i dont think i seen anyone who can field the ball well enough and is good enough to play at IC.

To get a complete midfielder lads is an extremely hard thing to do. How often are they produced? A lad from my club has a serious pair of hands, arguably the best in the county, but he would be very raw in other dimensions of the game. But you have to maximise what you have got. So he got told to catch it and give it off to somone else by a fist pass!

Thats why you can't be so critical of Galligan. He has his good points, now all he needs is coaching to develop other parts of his game. I think coaching players individually has become a bit of a lost art..

And let's face it, out of the midfielders we had last year, Galligan would be my first choice everytime.

With regards to Miller has he not said he is quitting for the last three or four years and then just strolls back after the McKenna Cup and the pre-season training? I might be wrong but no matter how could you are, thats not on and is bad for morale in the camp. Personally I dont think there is a need for him to play in the McKenna Cup but he should be training and getting into shape.. He could be the best keeper in the country if he wanted too
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on October 31, 2009, 06:08:30 PM
Fair enough SOK it's hard not to be negative but I think the likes of Flanagan need to get a bit of confidence and a fixed position rather than to be omitted.
Was in Drumalee watching Drumgoon going through to the division 2 final. They won by 3 with Fanin running riot again, this time at full forward. Now could one of the 99% of football people in the county tell Tommy Carr to try this man anywhere ahead of the full-back line. Killeshandra were missing two big players, had another two go off and injured and had Declan McKiernan playing on one leg at full forward where he still had a decent game.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dougal on October 31, 2009, 06:54:53 PM
laurence,roper was immense  today wasnt he,think he should be tried in the forward line at county level.ye we were missing quite a few today,and its not easy when you have such a small pick of players,but thought the players that stepped in wernt too bad.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on October 31, 2009, 06:57:29 PM
Quote from: Dougal on October 31, 2009, 06:54:53 PM
laurence,roper was immense  today wasnt he,think he should be tried in the forward line at county level.ye we were missing quite a few today,and its not easy when you have such a small pick of players,but thought the players that stepped in wernt too bad.

Who??
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on October 31, 2009, 07:03:52 PM
Roper is Keith Fanin to only his best buddies. Were you involved today boojangles? You have some serious stewards at that club ;D
I wouldn't know the lads that stepped in but I thought Killian Reilly should've been marked on to Fanin early as he's a good marker.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dougal on October 31, 2009, 07:10:57 PM
sorry,ive just always known him to be called roper.ye cilliian should of been marking him the whole game,dont know why he wasnt,he would of kept him a bit quieter.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on October 31, 2009, 07:12:38 PM
Quote from: Lawrence of Knockbride on October 31, 2009, 07:03:52 PM
Roper is Keith Fanin to only his best buddies. Were you involved today boojangles? You have some serious stewards at that club ;D
I wouldn't know the lads that stepped in but I thought Killian Reilly should've been marked on to Fanin early as he's a good marker.

Wasnt involved Larry,more than enough men about I was informed. I was away playing a foreign sport.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on October 31, 2009, 07:13:07 PM
Quote from: Dougal on October 31, 2009, 07:10:57 PM
sorry,ive just always known him to be called roper.ye cilliian should of been marking him the whole game,dont know why he wasnt,he would of kept him a bit quieter.

From my limited viewing of the leaguers this year have to say some of the decisions from the line have been odd to say the least, but I suppose they got the promotion so I can't complain too much.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on October 31, 2009, 07:17:24 PM
Are you playing with Cavan United Boojangles? Yeah men telling lads to tighten up their parking at 2:45 and the game about to start and any amount of space to park. Still if it was the other way around we'd be complaining.
Junior McKiernan was making most of the calls from the stand Myles regardless of what the actual manager wanted done.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on October 31, 2009, 07:42:09 PM
Quote from: Lawrence of Knockbride on October 31, 2009, 07:17:24 PM
Are you playing with Cavan United Boojangles? Yeah men telling lads to tighten up their parking at 2:45 and the game about to start and any amount of space to park. Still if it was the other way around we'd be complaining.
Junior McKiernan was making most of the calls from the stand Myles regardless of what the actual manager wanted done.

I could guess who was on Parking duty,although it can b a nightmare up there if there is a big crowd.
No wasnt playing for Cavan United. Its my first year playing soccer competitively,I suppose I wouldn't wanna be relying on the Gaelic to keep me fit anyway.Its only a bit of crack really,a nice change from tearing my hair out and losing sleep with Drumalee ;)
How was Michael Hannon looking for the Goonies? Is he back in with Cavan this year?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on October 31, 2009, 08:15:03 PM
He caused a lot of damage going forward in the first half. Dunno if he's back but I'd assume so. He beat a greyhound in a race in Dundalk recently I'm told.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on October 31, 2009, 08:26:00 PM
Quote from: Lawrence of Knockbride on October 31, 2009, 07:17:24 PM
Are you playing with Cavan United Boojangles? Yeah men telling lads to tighten up their parking at 2:45 and the game about to start and any amount of space to park. Still if it was the other way around we'd be complaining.
Junior McKiernan was making most of the calls from the stand Myles regardless of what the actual manager wanted done.

There will always be lads in the crowd roaring but it is the management teams job to make sure players are doing what they say and not someone in the crowd. Junior has a lot of good points he puts a lot of time and effort into the club. I did enjoy my time training under him and he always sent me on the field with fire in the belly. However, I would disagree with his turning a blind eye to mindless violence (some would say he encourages it) on the pitch. For me aggression needs to be channel into the tackle and off the ball boxing is counter productive.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dougal on October 31, 2009, 08:34:56 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on October 31, 2009, 08:26:00 PM
Quote from: Lawrence of Knockbride on October 31, 2009, 07:17:24 PM
Are you playing with Cavan United Boojangles? Yeah men telling lads to tighten up their parking at 2:45 and the game about to start and any amount of space to park. Still if it was the other way around we'd be complaining.
Junior McKiernan was making most of the calls from the stand Myles regardless of what the actual manager wanted done.

There will always be lads in the crowd roaring but it is the management teams job to make sure players are doing what they say and not someone in the crowd. Junior has a lot of good points he puts a lot of time and effort into the club. I did enjoy my time training under him and he always sent me on the field with fire in the belly. However, I would disagree with his turning a blind eye to mindless violence (some would say he encourages it) on the pitch. For me aggression needs to be channel into the tackle and off the ball boxing is counter productive.

id say its junior that has declan the way he is.he knows his stuff but probably quite a bad influence.

hannon caused us a good bit of trouble alright,was good going forward.heard that about the greyhound aswell,but i think there was some catch to it,like he had a running start.still,fair play,im sure it isnt that easy to beat one whatever way you go about doing it.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on October 31, 2009, 08:36:56 PM
Quote from: Dougal on October 31, 2009, 08:34:56 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on October 31, 2009, 08:26:00 PM
Quote from: Lawrence of Knockbride on October 31, 2009, 07:17:24 PM
Are you playing with Cavan United Boojangles? Yeah men telling lads to tighten up their parking at 2:45 and the game about to start and any amount of space to park. Still if it was the other way around we'd be complaining.
Junior McKiernan was making most of the calls from the stand Myles regardless of what the actual manager wanted done.

There will always be lads in the crowd roaring but it is the management teams job to make sure players are doing what they say and not someone in the crowd. Junior has a lot of good points he puts a lot of time and effort into the club. I did enjoy my time training under him and he always sent me on the field with fire in the belly. However, I would disagree with his turning a blind eye to mindless violence (some would say he encourages it) on the pitch. For me aggression needs to be channel into the tackle and off the ball boxing is counter productive.

id say its junior that has declan the way he is.he knows his stuff but probably quite a bad influence.

hannon caused us a good bit of trouble alright,was good going forward.heard that about the greyhound aswell,but i think there was some catch to it,like he had a running start.still,fair play,im sure it isnt that easy to beat one whatever way you go about doing it.

Aye, like they didn't use the electric hare :D No chance he'd beat a greyhound in a straight run.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: beer baron on November 01, 2009, 10:33:08 AM
Hannon did win alright but the weird thing is he's not even the fastest on their team,It's not the bould roper either!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on November 01, 2009, 10:43:00 AM
Quote from: beer baron on November 01, 2009, 10:33:08 AM
Hannon did win alright but the weird thing is he's not even the fastest on their team,It's not the bould roper either!

Listen, i'll do the maths for ye.

A greyhound will run a 520 yard race in less than 30 seconds. But lets say he is a slow dog and does it in 30s dead.
Thats 475 meters in 30s
Divide by 475 and multiply by 100 gives a 100m time of 6.3s

Now Usain Bolts world record for 100m is 9.78s.

I suggest Michael Hannon takes up sprinting if he can do it in 6.3s - Imagine what Mackey could do it in!

Presumably Hannon had a half lap head start?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: beer baron on November 01, 2009, 10:49:15 AM
Course he had a headstart but not half a lap.still serious going.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on November 01, 2009, 10:55:33 AM
Quote from: beer baron on November 01, 2009, 10:49:15 AM
Course he had a headstart but not half a lap.still serious going.

I'd say it had to be half a lap. Greyhound track is about 650 meters long. I'd guess Hannon would be going half the speed of a dog so he'd need that.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: beer baron on November 01, 2009, 11:07:26 AM
............I wouldn't be sticking my last tenner on the dog in a race anyway!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: beer baron on November 01, 2009, 12:08:47 PM
Ah bejaysus Dougal welcome.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dougal on November 01, 2009, 12:28:05 PM
Quote from: beer baron on November 01, 2009, 12:08:47 PM
Ah bejaysus Dougal welcome.

yup,im back,and they cant mod my posts so il not lose my temper this time.
Quote from: beer baron on November 01, 2009, 10:33:08 AM
Hannon did win alright but the weird thing is he's not even the fastest on their team,It's not the bould roper either!

so who is the fastest?hes fairly fast though,but 2 of our players were well fit to keep up with him yday.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: beer baron on November 01, 2009, 01:05:11 PM
Eddie Gaffney by a country mile,dunno if he was playing yesterday he's carrying few injuries,skinny lad blondish hair.Absolute Lightning.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dougal on November 01, 2009, 01:15:43 PM
ye he was playing,didnt notice him though.the bould lennon was togged out aswell.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: beer baron on November 01, 2009, 01:21:31 PM
He wasn't a happy camper that he didn't get playing,with some of the players that  were on.He's fond of falling out with the management.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on November 01, 2009, 04:33:06 PM
Anyone hear how Lavey or the Bridge got on?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dougal on November 01, 2009, 05:24:37 PM
Quote from: REDCOL on November 01, 2009, 04:35:01 PM
Lavey won by 2. Bridge match cancelled

who do lavey meet in the next round?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: beer baron on November 01, 2009, 06:51:27 PM
Fanad Gaels,Donegal champions.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on November 02, 2009, 01:00:18 PM
Well done Lavey.  Brewster Park for that game?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: whats my name on November 02, 2009, 01:17:15 PM
who played well for lavey. great to see at least 1 of our teams doing something in ulster.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: jonb_cúl on November 02, 2009, 01:22:38 PM
just trying to work out the standings of the d1 league table now, if my calculations are right then it was a mixed day for lavey yesterday so!!!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on November 02, 2009, 01:48:22 PM
Quote from: jonb_cúl on November 02, 2009, 01:22:38 PM
just trying to work out the standings of the d1 league table now, if my calculations are right then it was a mixed day for lavey yesterday so!!!

I take it that Cuchulainns won?? Could be messy
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: jonb_cúl on November 02, 2009, 02:40:22 PM
yea they beat ballinagh i think, so that's lavey on 9points and cu cu's on 10points. on the top then cavan Gaels bt lacken, so thats Gaels straight into the league final as gowna are suppended. so its c'haran/ b'bet vrs cavan Gaels. the semi is on this Friday in the breffni park, with jayo having got married at the weekend i doubt he'll be around!!!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BigMac on November 04, 2009, 08:40:53 PM
Yes a very bitter sweet weekend for Lavey. Will they appeal that relegation. It does seem a bit unfair as im sure Gowna would have beaten cucuhullains. Its good to see a Cavan team winning a game in ulster, lets hope the Bridge can do the same this weekend. I just read the report of the Lavey game in the celt, good to see all their forwards scoring. Is it just a lucky win or can they go on and win ulster do ye think?
On another note, I would definitely like to see Kieth Fannin being deployed in the forward line for Cavan. He has being playin there for the last few years for drumgoon and any time ive seen he was very good. He is also a good 45 taker and is very fit. I think hes been harshly treated in the county in the last two years.
I think the under 21 championsip this weekend. Its a disgrace how late this is being left to. Its one of the best competitions in the county always tightly contested, and never really being dominated by one team and has the best of our futute county stars on show, and they get november, december and im sure even january football. County board needs to take a hard look at themselves. This year I do think it will be the gaels turn to deliver on the promise they've shown at minor over the last few years. From 1998 to 2008 they won 10 out of 11 minor championships but only turned that into 3 under 21 wins.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dougal on November 04, 2009, 08:51:56 PM
Quote from: BigMac on November 04, 2009, 08:40:53 PM
On another note, I would definitely like to see Kieth Fannin being deployed in the forward line for Cavan. He has being playin there for the last few years for drumgoon and any time ive seen he was very good. He is also a good 45 taker and is very fit. I think hes been harshly treated in the county in the last two years.
I think the under 21 championsip this weekend. Its a disgrace how late this is being left to. Its one of the best competitions in the county always tightly contested, and never really being dominated by one team and has the best of our futute county stars on show, and they get november, december and im sure even january football. County board needs to take a hard look at themselves. This year I do think it will be the gaels turn to deliver on the promise they've shown at minor over the last few years. From 1998 to 2008 they won 10 out of 11 minor championships but only turned that into 3 under 21 wins.

ye,U21 is very important IMO.look at belturbet,prob one of the favourites for U21 this year.a good div2 minor side is all they were 2 or 3 years ago.from the start of minor to the end of U21 are where players improve the most i reckon.there have been fcuk all games on the last few weeks,and it doesnt take that long to run off the U21 champ...final should be this weekend rather than 1st round.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dougal on November 06, 2009, 10:18:39 PM
anyone know how div1 league semi went tonight?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on November 07, 2009, 01:13:32 PM
Quote from: Dougal on November 06, 2009, 10:18:39 PM
anyone know how div1 league semi went tonight?

Was called off I believe.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on November 07, 2009, 04:43:34 PM
Ballyhaise beat Cootehill today to make the Semi final of Division 2.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on November 07, 2009, 07:32:03 PM
Frontrunners for chairman according to the celt - any preferences?

Four horse race to fill Cavan County Board chair

Profile by Sean McMahon


With the news this week that the chairman of Cavan County GAA Board Phil Smith is to step down at the convention in Drumavaddy in December, the race is on to find a successor.

Three people have already declared that they will be candidates for the position - Tom O'Reilly, chairman of Shannon Gaels, Packie McKiernan, former chairman of Kildallan, and Mark Gillick, outgoing PRO of the County Board. Mark will also be nominated for the Ulster Council. The current vice-chairman Kieran Callaghan of Denn told The Anglo-Celt this week that he is considering his position at the moment and will make a definitive announcement in the next few days.

The closing date for nominations is Friday, November 13 and the clubs.

The candidates

Mark Gillick has been County Board PRO for the last five years, was youth officer for three years and secretary of Cavan Gaels for six. He has been on the Management Committee for the eight years, and despite being one of the younger contenders for the top GAA job in the county, he brings considerable experience to the table.

Mark promises vibrant, new ideas: "Coming from a successful club, I'm acutely aware of what it takes to put structures in place to improve things and see Cavan competing with the best once again," he said.

Tom O'Reilly, a current Ulster Council delegate and management committee member, said he is in the contest to give it a real lash. These opportunities may only present themselves once in a lifetime, he added.

"This is my time - I have a lot of experience at County Board level and at Ulster Council level. I've chaired the Hearings Committee in Ulster on a number of occasions. I'm in this race to win it."

Tom has worked hard at club level and the fine facilities in Blacklion are testament to his initiative. He has retired from working in Loughan House and if elected, is prepared to give the new role his all.

Packie McKiernan was chairman of Kildallan for six years and secretary for eight. He oversaw the development of the new pitch in the 1980s and the county final was played in Ballyconnell in 1994, when Packie was secretary. He's been involved in promoting Club Breifne and various fund raising golf classics and corporate nights.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on November 07, 2009, 09:08:00 PM
Any one know why the outgoing chairman stepped down? Anything to do with the Carr fiasco a few months ago?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on November 08, 2009, 02:10:40 PM
Quote from: cavanmaniac on November 07, 2009, 09:08:00 PM
Any one know why the outgoing chairman stepped down? Anything to do with the Carr fiasco a few months ago?

I think its for personal reasons.I believe a family member may not be well.
May be just rumours but I heard that if Tom Reilly gets the Chair it could be Bye Bye Tommy.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on November 08, 2009, 06:45:14 PM
Quote from: boojangles on November 08, 2009, 02:10:40 PM
Quote from: cavanmaniac on November 07, 2009, 09:08:00 PM
Any one know why the outgoing chairman stepped down? Anything to do with the Carr fiasco a few months ago?

I think its for personal reasons.I believe a family member may not be well.
May be just rumours but I heard that if Tom Reilly gets the Chair it could be Bye Bye Tommy.

A progresive?  But he does sound like a true cavanman though.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on November 08, 2009, 07:03:35 PM
Phil stood down due to personal reasons alright, I can confim that. I don't think its right to discuss exactly what is up in a public website though. His business is his own.

U21 competition is a joke at the minute. Cootehill didn't shot up to play Bailieborough today and anyone I talk too just has no interest in playing football at this time of year.

Whoever the new chairman is, does he honestly think it would be wise to kick Tommy out at this stage. I think we should give him next year to see if there is any progress. As far as i know there is quite a bit of work been put in at the minute. And who else would actually take the job that is qualified enough to do it and we know would definetly be better than Carr?

let him judge players for himself and pick his own panel this year rather than just inheriting DK's panel like he did last year late on.

Was told Larry Jayo Miller and Pearson are gone all due to different reasons. Not fully sure about that though. Think 3 or 4 others will be cut also but sure all will be revealed in time no doubt!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dougal on November 08, 2009, 07:25:51 PM
Quote from: put-it-up on November 08, 2009, 07:03:35 PM
Phil stood down due to personal reasons alright, I can confim that. I don't think its right to discuss exactly what is up in a public website though. His business is his own.

U21 competition is a joke at the minute. Cootehill didn't shot up to play Bailieborough today and anyone I talk too just has no interest in playing football at this time of year.

Whoever the new chairman is, does he honestly think it would be wise to kick Tommy out at this stage. I think we should give him next year to see if there is any progress. As far as i know there is quite a bit of work been put in at the minute. And who else would actually take the job that is qualified enough to do it and we know would definetly be better than Carr?

let him judge players for himself and pick his own panel this year rather than just inheriting DK's panel like he did last year late on.

Was told Larry Jayo Miller and Pearson are gone all due to different reasons. Not fully sure about that though. Think 3 or 4 others will be cut also but sure all will be revealed in time no doubt!

it would be terrible to kick tommy out at this stage,as much as i wanted to see him walk after the championship,i know that getting rid of him now would be disastrous.

larry retired months ago, jayo made it clear enough he wasnt happy with carr,so wasnt really expecting him to come back this year,heard that about miller alright,and might be able to find out a bit more about pearson tomorrow.he could do with cutting alot more than another 3 or 4,easily another 10.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on November 08, 2009, 09:47:29 PM
I heard the bridge lost by a couple of points in the Ulster junior club championship, that just leaves Lavey flying  the flag. Another indication of the poor level club football is at in the county.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on November 08, 2009, 11:13:47 PM
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Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: beer baron on November 09, 2009, 07:50:43 PM
Any word on new members brought into the panel?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on November 10, 2009, 06:45:34 PM
Congrats Ballyhaiseman for the win on Saturday, hope ye go on and give Kingscourt a good rattle on Sunday in the semi final... they were well worth their win and the margin of their victory too while I think we got what they deserved although the amount of injuries we have at the minute wouldn't help things.

To be honest, I'm not sorry to have the football season over at this stage, been a long time since training in January and the league starting in February.... but that whole issue is another day's work and don't have the energy to launch into it now...
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: jimjim on November 11, 2009, 03:31:25 PM
Was at the B-haise Coothill game, Few v good performances for this time of yr especially from B-haise but have there hands full v Kingscourt. See its a busy weekend for the B-haiseman with the reserve final on up here Fri nite. Are you playing in that as well B-haiseman???
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on November 11, 2009, 05:49:45 PM
Thanks Celt Man, havent gotten on this week much due to work.
Jimjim im not eligable to play Friday Night im afraid,il be there though, you're hardly a Lacken man now are you?  ;)
Stars for us on Sunday in Division Two semi,
we will be up against it,but sure we will give it a go.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: beer baron on November 13, 2009, 12:01:19 PM
Loving the picture Ballyhaiseman.It's one crazy woman.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on November 13, 2009, 03:22:08 PM
Quote from: beer baron on November 13, 2009, 12:01:19 PM
Loving the picture Ballyhaiseman.It's one crazy woman.
i think shes lovely and just misunderstood baron  ;D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on November 13, 2009, 03:30:43 PM
Are you doing any work today BHman?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on November 13, 2009, 03:36:57 PM
Quote from: Denn Forever on November 13, 2009, 03:30:43 PM
Are you doing any work today BHman?

I did some from about 10-1 DF  :D
my work the rest of the time has been checking out maxim.com.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: jimjim on November 13, 2009, 05:01:43 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on November 11, 2009, 05:49:45 PM
Thanks Celt Man, havent gotten on this week much due to work.
Jimjim im not eligable to play Friday Night im afraid,il be there though, you're hardly a Lacken man now are you?  ;)
Stars for us on Sunday in Division Two semi,
we will be up against it,but sure we will give it a go.

Sorry BHM, not a lacken man, just call me a neutral. Get to see a lot of games and bit of everyone.
Love the change of profile pic but hard to beat the last one, good to see a new face tho.
Are ye confident for the weekends games? Why is ur U21's not playing this weekend??
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on November 13, 2009, 05:16:47 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on November 13, 2009, 03:36:57 PM
Quote from: Denn Forever on November 13, 2009, 03:30:43 PM
Are you doing any work today BHman?

I did some from about 10-1 DF  :D
my work the rest of the time has been checking out maxim.com.
Can't believe you even had time to post on this thread... get back over there to General Discussion and dig out another few classics
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on November 13, 2009, 05:34:15 PM
Quote from: jimjim on November 13, 2009, 05:01:43 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on November 11, 2009, 05:49:45 PM
Thanks Celt Man, havent gotten on this week much due to work.
Jimjim im not eligable to play Friday Night im afraid,il be there though, you're hardly a Lacken man now are you?  ;)
Stars for us on Sunday in Division Two semi,
we will be up against it,but sure we will give it a go.

Sorry BHM, not a lacken man, just call me a neutral. Get to see a lot of games and bit of everyone.
Love the change of profile pic but hard to beat the last one, good to see a new face tho.
Are ye confident for the weekends games? Why is ur U21's not playing this weekend??

Elizabeth lambert,hot and tough,they way i like them  8)
Juniors tonight have a good chance, as they were the better team for most of the game the last day,but juniors is horrid unpredictable,that Lacken team is very good junior team,and they will be much better this time round.
Seniors Sunday,we are up against it,Its a good intermediate team(which i reckon we are) against a good senior team Kingscourt.
we drew with them up in kingscourt 0-6 each,with a gale force wind rendering the game a farce.
They have some terrific footballers in Gunn,McKeown,Gargan,McCabe,Clarke.They would have to be favourites,but the poor November weather will probably leave it a close low scoring affair.
Under 21 is cancelled,we are playing Cornafean away next sunday i think.
Good decision,as it would have left some of our players,Mark Brennan,Shane Briody etc,playing 3 games in 3 days.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on November 13, 2009, 05:58:49 PM
Quote from: Celt_Man on November 13, 2009, 05:16:47 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on November 13, 2009, 03:36:57 PM
Quote from: Denn Forever on November 13, 2009, 03:30:43 PM
Are you doing any work today BHman?

I did some from about 10-1 DF  :D
my work the rest of the time has been checking out maxim.com.
Can't believe you even had time to post on this thread... get back over there to General Discussion and dig out another few classics
i love those threads,you find yourself checking it every few minutes  ;D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on November 13, 2009, 05:59:59 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on November 13, 2009, 05:34:15 PM
Quote from: jimjim on November 13, 2009, 05:01:43 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on November 11, 2009, 05:49:45 PM
Thanks Celt Man, havent gotten on this week much due to work.
Jimjim im not eligable to play Friday Night im afraid,il be there though, you're hardly a Lacken man now are you?  ;)
Stars for us on Sunday in Division Two semi,
we will be up against it,but sure we will give it a go.

Sorry BHM, not a lacken man, just call me a neutral. Get to see a lot of games and bit of everyone.
Love the change of profile pic but hard to beat the last one, good to see a new face tho.
Are ye confident for the weekends games? Why is ur U21's not playing this weekend??

Elizabeth lambert,hot and tough,they way i like them  8)
Juniors tonight have a good chance, as they were the better team for most of the game the last day,but juniors is horrid unpredictable,that Lacken team is very good junior team,and they will be much better this time round.
Seniors Sunday,we are up against it,Its a good intermediate team(which i reckon we are) against a good senior team Kingscourt.
we drew with them up in kingscourt 0-6 each,with a gale force wind rendering the game a farce.
They have some terrific footballers in Gunn,McKeown,Gargan,McCabe,Clarke.They would have to be favourites,but the poor November weather will probably leave it a close low scoring affair.
Under 21 is cancelled,we are playing Cornafean away next sunday i think.
Good decision,as it would have left some of our players,Mark Brennan,Shane Briody etc,playing 3 games in 3 days.

Thank you very much County Board....  that many games in one weekend in November - imagine what would happen if Cavan ever went on a half decent run in the championship in the summer, I shudder to think
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on November 13, 2009, 06:02:41 PM
Quote from: Celt_Man on November 13, 2009, 05:59:59 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on November 13, 2009, 05:34:15 PM
Quote from: jimjim on November 13, 2009, 05:01:43 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on November 11, 2009, 05:49:45 PM
Thanks Celt Man, havent gotten on this week much due to work.
Jimjim im not eligable to play Friday Night im afraid,il be there though, you're hardly a Lacken man now are you?  ;)
Stars for us on Sunday in Division Two semi,
we will be up against it,but sure we will give it a go.

Sorry BHM, not a lacken man, just call me a neutral. Get to see a lot of games and bit of everyone.
Love the change of profile pic but hard to beat the last one, good to see a new face tho.
Are ye confident for the weekends games? Why is ur U21's not playing this weekend??

Elizabeth lambert,hot and tough,they way i like them  8)
Juniors tonight have a good chance, as they were the better team for most of the game the last day,but juniors is horrid unpredictable,that Lacken team is very good junior team,and they will be much better this time round.
Seniors Sunday,we are up against it,Its a good intermediate team(which i reckon we are) against a good senior team Kingscourt.
we drew with them up in kingscourt 0-6 each,with a gale force wind rendering the game a farce.
They have some terrific footballers in Gunn,McKeown,Gargan,McCabe,Clarke.They would have to be favourites,but the poor November weather will probably leave it a close low scoring affair.
Under 21 is cancelled,we are playing Cornafean away next sunday i think.
Good decision,as it would have left some of our players,Mark Brennan,Shane Briody etc,playing 3 games in 3 days.

Thank you very much County Board....  that many games in one weekend in November - imagine what would happen if Cavan ever went on a half decent run in the championship in the summer, I shudder to think

yep 2 games in 3 days now for a few of the lads,which is still very tough at this stage of the season when fitness wouldnt be at its highest.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on November 13, 2009, 06:08:22 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on November 13, 2009, 06:02:41 PM
Quote from: Celt_Man on November 13, 2009, 05:59:59 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on November 13, 2009, 05:34:15 PM
Quote from: jimjim on November 13, 2009, 05:01:43 PM
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Thanks Celt Man, havent gotten on this week much due to work.
Jimjim im not eligable to play Friday Night im afraid,il be there though, you're hardly a Lacken man now are you?  ;)
Stars for us on Sunday in Division Two semi,
we will be up against it,but sure we will give it a go.

Sorry BHM, not a lacken man, just call me a neutral. Get to see a lot of games and bit of everyone.
Love the change of profile pic but hard to beat the last one, good to see a new face tho.
Are ye confident for the weekends games? Why is ur U21's not playing this weekend??

Elizabeth lambert,hot and tough,they way i like them  8)
Juniors tonight have a good chance, as they were the better team for most of the game the last day,but juniors is horrid unpredictable,that Lacken team is very good junior team,and they will be much better this time round.
Seniors Sunday,we are up against it,Its a good intermediate team(which i reckon we are) against a good senior team Kingscourt.
we drew with them up in kingscourt 0-6 each,with a gale force wind rendering the game a farce.
They have some terrific footballers in Gunn,McKeown,Gargan,McCabe,Clarke.They would have to be favourites,but the poor November weather will probably leave it a close low scoring affair.
Under 21 is cancelled,we are playing Cornafean away next sunday i think.
Good decision,as it would have left some of our players,Mark Brennan,Shane Briody etc,playing 3 games in 3 days.

Thank you very much County Board....  that many games in one weekend in November - imagine what would happen if Cavan ever went on a half decent run in the championship in the summer, I shudder to think

yep 2 games in 3 days now for a few of the lads,which is still very tough at this stage of the season when fitness wouldnt be at its highest.
Who are ya telling? Sure you saw us at the weekend!!!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on November 13, 2009, 06:09:41 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on November 13, 2009, 05:58:49 PM
Quote from: Celt_Man on November 13, 2009, 05:16:47 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on November 13, 2009, 03:36:57 PM
Quote from: Denn Forever on November 13, 2009, 03:30:43 PM
Are you doing any work today BHman?

I did some from about 10-1 DF  :D
my work the rest of the time has been checking out maxim.com.
Can't believe you even had time to post on this thread... get back over there to General Discussion and dig out another few classics
i love those threads,you find yourself checking it every few minutes  ;D

Yea there is a real danger that I mightn't have the time to check this thread - such will be my devotion to that other one!!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on November 14, 2009, 01:50:55 AM
Lacken beat Ballyhaise after extra time in Division five final replay.
some good football served up in bitterly cold and windy conditions.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on November 14, 2009, 01:48:04 PM
I hear a few of our 97 batch are getting involved with teams this year.

Forde and Ronan Carolan are in as selectors with the u21's along with Hyland and I think Jayo is in with the minors with Mickey along with Peter Donnelly.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on November 14, 2009, 03:50:04 PM
Quote from: put-it-up on November 14, 2009, 01:48:04 PM
I hear a few of our 97 batch are getting involved with teams this year.

Forde and Ronan Carolan are in as selectors with the u21's along with Hyland and I think Jayo is in with the minors with Mickey along with Peter Donnelly.

I think its Forde and Peter Donnelly with the Minors Put-it-Up. Hadnt heard anything about Jayo. While I have great time for Ronan Carolan who is a great players man, I really don't know about this age old practice of throwing former county players into jobs. I would like to know what experience Anthony Forde has managing and coaching teams. Mickey Graham came the right road and won things, I think all ex-players should serve their time coaching with their clubs,doing courses etc before they are considered for County teams. Whats wrong with looking at clubs for selectors for our U-16 and Minor teams?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on November 14, 2009, 04:08:47 PM
On another note, Boojangles what do you make of your clubman's bid for Chairman of the county board?  I was surprised when I heard to say the least...

Would he be as good a chairman as he was a ref?  :-\
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on November 14, 2009, 04:59:42 PM
Quote from: Celt_Man on November 14, 2009, 04:08:47 PM
On another note, Boojangles what do you make of your clubman's bid for Chairman of the county board?  I was surprised when I heard to say the least...

Would he be as good a chairman as he was a ref?  :-\

Pass no remarks on that Celt Man.If he hasnt pulled out of the race already,he will have pulled out before the meeting,you can be sure of that.
Il give Tommy his dues,if he sets out to do something he would do it. As Chairman last year he organised a corporate night for the Club,at 100 quid a ticket. It was his idea and he did most of the work himself,selling all over the county and the club made good money off it.It definitely wasn't easy trying to push tickets at that price,but he did it.
But then he had a small argument over something stupid and resigned,and hasn't been seen around the club since.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on November 14, 2009, 05:19:45 PM
Quote from: boojangles on November 14, 2009, 04:59:42 PM
Quote from: Celt_Man on November 14, 2009, 04:08:47 PM
On another note, Boojangles what do you make of your clubman's bid for Chairman of the county board?  I was surprised when I heard to say the least...

Would he be as good a chairman as he was a ref?  :-\

Pass no remarks on that Celt Man.If he hasnt pulled out of the race already,he will have pulled out before the meeting,you can be sure of that.
Il give Tommy his dues,if he sets out to do something he would do it. As Chairman last year he organised a corporate night for the Club,at 100 quid a ticket. It was his idea and he did most of the work himself,selling all over the county and the club made good money off it.It definitely wasn't easy trying to push tickets at that price,but he did it.
But then he had a small argument over something stupid and resigned,and hasn't been seen around the club since.

Aye heard that that corporate night was a good night and a good success - and they are a hard sell too.  Fair play to him, just read a few of his comments in the Celt, didn't make for good reading to be honest.  But not too worry then.
That falling out over small shite sickens me too, happens all the time and if my club is anything to go by it is usually matters off the field.

By the way, I was in Drumalee a couple of weeks ago for an underage match which needed the floodlights for the last ten minutes or so.  The new lights are a great job - fair play to ya.  Although I'm surprised you don't have some on the side opposite the stand that would leave it well set up for good games under lights (maybe not to the competitive standard but a fairly useful addition to the club all the same)
Would you know much about the process behind putting them up?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on November 14, 2009, 06:02:58 PM
The lights are a massive addition alright.Now all we need to do is make the business end of the year and we'l get full use of them. In 04,05 and 06 we were training in darkness at this time of the year,and giving out stink. TBH the way they are at the moment we would get away with training on the full field with them.We decided not to put lights the other side for the time being. One of the reasons being,the pressure from the CB for use of the field etc.It is a new field and it takes looking after.
Most of the work was done locally.A local builder dug the trenches to lay all the lines,and then he poured the bases for the lights. We got an Electrician who organised the rest of it,with the help of one of the Senior players who is also an electrician.I can't remember the exact figures but I think 50 grand covered it. The fundraising is the big job but I think we qualifed for a grant to cover a small amount.
Its a step by step process but we have a good field,good lights now the aim has to be a big Club house.
Are Cootehill thinking of getting lights?
Any truth in the rumour that your manager walked after the Ballyhaise game??
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on November 14, 2009, 06:23:29 PM
Quote from: boojangles on November 14, 2009, 06:02:58 PM
The lights are a massive addition alright.Now all we need to do is make the business end of the year and we'l get full use of them. In 04,05 and 06 we were training in darkness at this time of the year,and giving out stink. TBH the way they are at the moment we would get away with training on the full field with them.We decided not to put lights the other side for the time being. One of the reasons being,the pressure from the CB for use of the field etc.It is a new field and it takes looking after.
Most of the work was done locally.A local builder dug the trenches to lay all the lines,and then he poured the bases for the lights. We got an Electrician who organised the rest of it,with the help of one of the Senior players who is also an electrician.I can't remember the exact figures but I think 50 grand covered it. The fundraising is the big job but I think we qualifed for a grant to cover a small amount.
Its a step by step process but we have a good field,good lights now the aim has to be a big Club house.
Are Cootehill thinking of getting lights?
Any truth in the rumour that your manager walked after the Ballyhaise game??

Nope, not that I'm aware of it... Got a new scoreboard which is a good addition but it takes time to get everyone on board with some ideas
No he didn't walk after the Ballyhaise game, he walked after the Kingscourt game....
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dougal on November 14, 2009, 06:25:06 PM
tommy seems to have some good enough ideas, dont know about all the amalgamations at senior (12 seems a bit much) but i think there should be alot more at u16 minor and u21.it would be great to get the u21 played in spring aswell.

celt man,when was the kingscourt game?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on November 14, 2009, 06:52:11 PM
Quote from: Dougal on November 14, 2009, 06:25:06 PM
tommy seems to have some good enough ideas, dont know about all the amalgamations at senior (12 seems a bit much) but i think there should be alot more at u16 minor and u21.it would be great to get the u21 played in spring aswell.

celt man,when was the kingscourt game?

Amalgamations are great when they work and a disaster when they don't.... We had in our club for 2 years and it nearly crippled us - we're still getting over it and I don't think an amalgamation would ever work for us....
Personally I don't think having a load of amalgamations at underage level is the way forward, we should be trying to maximise the numbers playing the game not limit them

Kingscourt game was bank holiday sunday
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dougal on November 14, 2009, 07:30:37 PM
well maybe its just that our amalgamations with cornafean and arva have been working very well.i know what you mean,but from my experience it can give 2 small teams with a few good players each,a chance to play at a higher level.i suppose theres a happy medium.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on November 15, 2009, 10:06:20 AM
Quote from: Dougal on November 14, 2009, 07:30:37 PM
well maybe its just that our amalgamations with cornafean and arva have been working very well.i know what you mean,but from my experience it can give 2 small teams with a few good players each,a chance to play at a higher level.i suppose theres a happy medium.

It may be before your time but when I was playing we used to amalgamate with Cornafean and Arva and enter the senior championship. Mr King was the trainer and he used to organise trainings for the amalgamation at the same time & days as the 3 clubs had their own training. The clubs then had feck all at training and all the "elite" players were minded from playing with their clubs to play on the amalgamated team. The biggest joke of it was that they never won a game at senior level.

I don't like amalgamations unless a club is unable to field a team. I think football should be an inclusive sport and should aim to keep as many as possible involved for as long as possible. Amalgamtions are elitist and while they may raise the levels of the better players they will often force youngsters to quit for lack of games.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dougal on November 15, 2009, 01:22:23 PM
no,i dont remember that slasher,when was that?i dont remember much before 06.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on November 15, 2009, 03:40:55 PM
I tipped up to Terry Coyle for Gaels v St. Joseph's game. Couldn't tell you the score but the Gaels won by approx 3/4 points. They were about 8 up at HT and joes missed a penalty before staging s mini-comeback. Tomás Reilly only last about 10 mins before going off injured and Declan McKiernan came on at HT to change the game.
Daniel Graham had a good first half but I think he fancies himself to be a better player than he is. Maloney-Derham & Levi Murphy were a great counter-attacking outlet and I think it's Padraic Smith's brother Niall (?) was playing wing-forward and he looks a really good prospect.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dougal on November 15, 2009, 04:02:48 PM
lawrence,you starting to follow killeshandra? :)
think the score was 0-2 to 0-10/11 at halftime.thomas comming off made a big difference,and even a injured declan made quite a difference when he came on.should have a very strong team next year,only losing 3 or 4 starters.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on November 15, 2009, 04:10:16 PM
I have a soft spot for them Dougal-family links but I'll say no more.
McKiernan has made a huge impression on me this year and if he can block out his ould boys instructions he could be a great asset to club and county.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dougal on November 15, 2009, 04:23:43 PM
spot on,if he cuts out the nonsense he could go far.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on November 15, 2009, 05:45:46 PM
Quote from: boojangles on November 14, 2009, 03:50:04 PM
Quote from: put-it-up on November 14, 2009, 01:48:04 PM
I hear a few of our 97 batch are getting involved with teams this year.

Forde and Ronan Carolan are in as selectors with the u21's along with Hyland and I think Jayo is in with the minors with Mickey along with Peter Donnelly.

I think its Forde and Peter Donnelly with the Minors Put-it-Up. Hadnt heard anything about Jayo. While I have great time for Ronan Carolan who is a great players man, I really don't know about this age old practice of throwing former county players into jobs. I would like to know what experience Anthony Forde has managing and coaching teams. Mickey Graham came the right road and won things, I think all ex-players should serve their time coaching with their clubs,doing courses etc before they are considered for County teams. Whats wrong with looking at clubs for selectors for our U-16 and Minor teams?

Sorry Boojangles, Forde is definetly in with the u21's. As far as I am aware it was his choice which team he went in with. And I would completely disagree with you on that point.

Forde, Carolan and Jayo have experienced sucess and know what it takes to win. At the at end of the day, they are in as selectors. The team has a trainer to train to them and a manager to deal with the bulk of managerial issues. I know I would rather someone that has played the game for years, seen and done it giving me advice come championship than a spoofer who has a badge from the GAA no? I appreciate that we need as many people as we can getting involved in coaching courses but from a players perspective who would you prefer in and around the camp?

It's half time in an Ulster QF, do you want Anthony Forde encouraging you and giving you tips or a lad from Arva or Kingscourt that is on level two in the coaching courses?

And Lawrence that wing-forward would be a brothers of Pauric. Is lightning quick and was very impressive when on the county minors for two years. Might play a role with the u21s this year.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on November 15, 2009, 05:49:52 PM
Quote from: Dougal on November 15, 2009, 01:22:23 PM
no,i dont remember that slasher,when was that?i dont remember much before 06.

Ronan Fitz was manager the last time we put an amalgamation into the snr championship I Think, so I am going  to guess 2000/2001?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on November 15, 2009, 05:55:11 PM
Quote from: put-it-up on November 15, 2009, 05:45:46 PM
Quote from: boojangles on November 14, 2009, 03:50:04 PM
Quote from: put-it-up on November 14, 2009, 01:48:04 PM
I hear a few of our 97 batch are getting involved with teams this year.

Forde and Ronan Carolan are in as selectors with the u21's along with Hyland and I think Jayo is in with the minors with Mickey along with Peter Donnelly.

I think its Forde and Peter Donnelly with the Minors Put-it-Up. Hadnt heard anything about Jayo. While I have great time for Ronan Carolan who is a great players man, I really don't know about this age old practice of throwing former county players into jobs. I would like to know what experience Anthony Forde has managing and coaching teams. Mickey Graham came the right road and won things, I think all ex-players should serve their time coaching with their clubs,doing courses etc before they are considered for County teams. Whats wrong with looking at clubs for selectors for our U-16 and Minor teams?

Sorry Boojangles, Forde is definetly in with the u21's. As far as I am aware it was his choice which team he went in with. And I would completely disagree with you on that point.

Forde, Carolan and Jayo have experienced sucess and know what it takes to win. At the at end of the day, they are in as selectors. The team has a trainer to train to them and a manager to deal with the bulk of managerial issues. I know I would rather someone that has played the game for years, seen and done it giving me advice come championship than a spoofer who has a badge from the GAA no? I appreciate that we need as many people as we can getting involved in coaching courses but from a players perspective who would you prefer in and around the camp?

It's half time in an Ulster QF, do you want Anthony Forde encouraging you and giving you tips or a lad from Arva or Kingscourt that is on level two in the coaching courses?

And Lawrence that wing-forward would be a brothers of Pauric. Is lightning quick and was very impressive when on the county minors for two years. Might play a role with the u21s this year.
Yes, deceptively fast but doesn't be in the game enough.
As for your analysis of the coaching set-up if you took your Ulster QF scenario and subbed Forde for Stephen King you might get a different answer. The point is, and you touched on it, is that you need a coach who has done the necessary courses etc. You need a manager with tactical awareness and you need selectors to back him up. If those selectors have a good wealth of experience of high level games then all the better but it doesn't necessarily make them good selectors. You could have an individual, for example, that doesn't speak his mind enough or doesn't like to step on people's toes which would be no addition. Not as black and white as you put it but from reading your other posts I'd assume that you didn't mean it come over that way?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on November 15, 2009, 06:07:42 PM
Quote from: Lawrence of Knockbride on November 15, 2009, 05:55:11 PM
Quote from: put-it-up on November 15, 2009, 05:45:46 PM
Quote from: boojangles on November 14, 2009, 03:50:04 PM
Quote from: put-it-up on November 14, 2009, 01:48:04 PM
I hear a few of our 97 batch are getting involved with teams this year.

Forde and Ronan Carolan are in as selectors with the u21's along with Hyland and I think Jayo is in with the minors with Mickey along with Peter Donnelly.

I think its Forde and Peter Donnelly with the Minors Put-it-Up. Hadnt heard anything about Jayo. While I have great time for Ronan Carolan who is a great players man, I really don't know about this age old practice of throwing former county players into jobs. I would like to know what experience Anthony Forde has managing and coaching teams. Mickey Graham came the right road and won things, I think all ex-players should serve their time coaching with their clubs,doing courses etc before they are considered for County teams. Whats wrong with looking at clubs for selectors for our U-16 and Minor teams?

Sorry Boojangles, Forde is definetly in with the u21's. As far as I am aware it was his choice which team he went in with. And I would completely disagree with you on that point.

Forde, Carolan and Jayo have experienced sucess and know what it takes to win. At the at end of the day, they are in as selectors. The team has a trainer to train to them and a manager to deal with the bulk of managerial issues. I know I would rather someone that has played the game for years, seen and done it giving me advice come championship than a spoofer who has a badge from the GAA no? I appreciate that we need as many people as we can getting involved in coaching courses but from a players perspective who would you prefer in and around the camp?

It's half time in an Ulster QF, do you want Anthony Forde encouraging you and giving you tips or a lad from Arva or Kingscourt that is on level two in the coaching courses?

And Lawrence that wing-forward would be a brothers of Pauric. Is lightning quick and was very impressive when on the county minors for two years. Might play a role with the u21s this year.
Yes, deceptively fast but doesn't be in the game enough.
As for your analysis of the coaching set-up if you took your Ulster QF scenario and subbed Forde for Stephen King you might get a different answer. The point is, and you touched on it, is that you need a coach who has done the necessary courses etc. You need a manager with tactical awareness and you need selectors to back him up. If those selectors have a good wealth of experience of high level games then all the better but it doesn't necessarily make them good selectors. You could have an individual, for example, that doesn't speak his mind enough or doesn't like to step on people's toes which would be no addition. Not as black and white as you put it but from reading your other posts I'd assume that you didn't mean it come over that way?

No I didnt mean to stereotpye there. Obviously everyone is different and there are exceptions. But from talking to people about Anthony Forde and knowing Ronan Carolan I would be pretty sure I would prefer to be  taking advice from them than a person that has coaching badges. I wasn't for one second saying that every ex county player would make a better selector than others but the right characters who have previous experience is a big help, would u agree?

No manager knows it all ( even though some think they do!) but the key is to have a backroom team that supplements areas in which the manager is not the best. Its a hard thing to do, to get the right blend and you never know if something is going to work until its tried.

At least this year TC and his team can give 100% to the seniors and Hyland and his gang can focus in on their team, rather than having one manager worring about two teams. Whether there is any sucess or not this year, I think that is a step forward.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on November 15, 2009, 10:25:16 PM
Well done Lavey again.  I hear they won today by a few points.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on November 16, 2009, 02:47:26 PM
Quote from: put-it-up on November 15, 2009, 05:45:46 PM
Quote from: boojangles on November 14, 2009, 03:50:04 PM
Quote from: put-it-up on November 14, 2009, 01:48:04 PM
I hear a few of our 97 batch are getting involved with teams this year.

Forde and Ronan Carolan are in as selectors with the u21's along with Hyland and I think Jayo is in with the minors with Mickey along with Peter Donnelly.

I think its Forde and Peter Donnelly with the Minors Put-it-Up. Hadnt heard anything about Jayo. While I have great time for Ronan Carolan who is a great players man, I really don't know about this age old practice of throwing former county players into jobs. I would like to know what experience Anthony Forde has managing and coaching teams. Mickey Graham came the right road and won things, I think all ex-players should serve their time coaching with their clubs,doing courses etc before they are considered for County teams. Whats wrong with looking at clubs for selectors for our U-16 and Minor teams?

Sorry Boojangles, Forde is definetly in with the u21's. As far as I am aware it was his choice which team he went in with. And I would completely disagree with you on that point.

Forde, Carolan and Jayo have experienced sucess and know what it takes to win. At the at end of the day, they are in as selectors. The team has a trainer to train to them and a manager to deal with the bulk of managerial issues. I know I would rather someone that has played the game for years, seen and done it giving me advice come championship than a spoofer who has a badge from the GAA no? I appreciate that we need as many people as we can getting involved in coaching courses but from a players perspective who would you prefer in and around the camp?

It's half time in an Ulster QF, do you want Anthony Forde encouraging you and giving you tips or a lad from Arva or Kingscourt that is on level two in the coaching courses?

And Lawrence that wing-forward would be a brothers of Pauric. Is lightning quick and was very impressive when on the county minors for two years. Might play a role with the u21s this year.

Think you kinda mis-read what I was saying. My point basically is that a County player does not necessarily make a good coach/selector/manager. Im not saying anything about lads with coaching badges should be given jobs either. My point is that there are plenty of Coaches and managers involved in clubs in the county who would have a far better knowledge of the Underage scene than some ex-county player who  may not have set foot at any underage games in the last 10 years.AFAIK he has not been involved in any Cavan Gaels underage teams.

Which would you prefer? A selector who has managed his club to success, with experience in dealing with young players or a former County player who never managed or coached at underage,who may or may not be effective with younger players.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on November 19, 2009, 09:30:17 PM
We start in Healy Park lads.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/northern_ireland/gaelic_games/8364707.stm
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on November 20, 2009, 06:32:06 PM
Jaysus it is quiet about here. So does anyone have any news on who is on the panel, friendlies etc. Tyrone is a great game to start with imo. You go up against one of the best and guage where you are.  No doubt we are well short but hopefully the players will realise that and work hard to close the gap.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on November 20, 2009, 06:53:29 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on November 20, 2009, 06:32:06 PM
Jaysus it is quiet about here. So does anyone have any news on who is on the panel, friendlies etc. Tyrone is a great game to start with imo. You go up against one of the best and guage where you are.  No doubt we are well short but hopefully the players will realise that and work hard to close the gap.
Well we'll gauge how good we are against their reserves with what will probably turn out to be some of our reserves with little or no training done so I'm not sure how relevant a gauge it is.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: beer baron on November 22, 2009, 11:57:46 AM
Any chance of the goonies upsetting kingscourt today?On form i'd be thinking no but the goonies have some good footballers if it all clicks on the day.Desperate conditions but hopefully decent game.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dougal on November 22, 2009, 02:15:21 PM
Goonies 1-01 to 0-0.goal frm mcnaly after 10 secs,frm bout 45m out!1-3 to 0-6 at half time,drumgoon dwn to 14 men.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: drici on November 23, 2009, 01:49:32 AM
In the month of November
On a cold stormy day...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yI62bkh1rYU


Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on November 24, 2009, 06:02:43 PM
Flipping hell it's quiet around these parts the last week or so...

Congrats to Kingscourt, well deserving of the Division 2 title after the manner they went about the league the whole year through despite the huge lay off (3 months maybe) they had to play their final 3 games before the knockout stages...

On a similar note, very disappointing that Breffni wasn't made available for the final, players put in a lot of effort during the year and I don't think it is unreasonable to expect to play senior finals in the county grounds....  Sometimes it can be protected too much, Pairc Tailteann in Navan is a great example for others, they play all sorts of finals there right down to the Junior B, C and D Championship finals - so what if there are small crowds at such a game, it suggests a level of respect for the competitions which is missing in some quarters

Anyone been at any of the Under 21 competitions - have to say I haven't been at one of them, just didn't have the interest so far when my club wasn't involved this year at all (that fault lies at our own door unfortunately) 

3 of the semi finals are down for decision this weekend with Bailieboro playing the Goonies in Kingscourt on Friday night and Ballyhaise taking on Laragh in Bawnboy on Saturday in Division 2 and Redbridge against Belturbet on Saturday in Division 1

What are Ballyhaise like this year BHMan?  A walkover in the first round against Drumalee (what is that all about Boojangles) and a big win against Cornafean although I suspect that the Reds aren't very strong at all...   Laragh could be a slippery one, they had a strong minor team 2 years ago (think they won a Div 2 title) and had a super win over a fancied Lavey side

Bailieboro and Goonies - wouldn't have a clue to be honest so no point in idle expectation

Redbridge and Belturbet - I think I'd be right in saying that there would be a serious local derby factor to this game... I think Belturbet have a good few of their seniors involved with Bud Fitz being the standout name, although RedBridge would have a lot of useful ex county minors and 21s from the past couple of years - could be a cracker

Also best of luck to Lavey in the Ulster Final this Sunday, I can safely say there isn't a soul about Cootehill who would begrudge them the title and a 1 in 5 shot at an All Ireland Crown!!  Meanwhile we will have to contend ourselves with getting plastered at our Dinner Dance on Saturday night!!!

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on November 24, 2009, 07:21:19 PM
Quote from: Celt_Man on November 24, 2009, 06:02:43 PM

my club wasn't involved this year at all (that fault lies at our own door unfortunately) 

A walkover in the first round against Drumalee (what is that all about Boojangles)

Very very disappointing Celt Man. Again our own fault-mostly the players, although I really feel the County Board have to have a look at this competition(which IMO is a brilliant competition if run well) and where they want to go with it. 3 weeks before the 1st round the CB still couldn't give an exact weekend.Its squeezed in at the end of the year and they don't give one f**k about it.
We had a panel of 19 including lads who couldn't make our Minor team. 10-12 lads were very keen but 3 or 4 were not. Some lads are playing soccer and TBH the Gaelic unfortunately comes second fiddle. 3 lads had to do some course the day of the Ballyhaise game and we asked the CB to re-fix and they couldn't so that was that. We literally couldn't field without the 3. In hindsight we should have looked about amalgamating with somebody but by the time the management realised the predicament we were in it was too late.

It is a worrying sign when 2 clubs in the 2 biggest towns in the County can't field an Under 21 team- something which no other than Pat Spillane mentioned in his Sunday World column last weekend. Not sure which club he was talking about,I don't always agree with Pat but here he is 100%.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: beer baron on November 24, 2009, 08:32:17 PM
Watched the goonies v drumlane game a week or 2 back,Drumgoon only won by a point but were a lot better team.Drumlane were poor,the goonies had solid enough defence,Eamon Mc Cluskey full back read the game brilliantly-didn't even know the lad played ball.Pauric Mc Gorry hit some sweet scores despite breaking his nose early in the game.The lad that i thought would be Drumgoons main dangerman that day Dean Hand wasn't at the races at all,if he was on form he could cause the Bailieboro defence some serious headaches.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dougal on November 26, 2009, 06:03:14 PM
anyone planning on making the trip to brewster to support lavey?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: jimjim on November 27, 2009, 04:08:19 PM
Best of luck to Lavey the weekend. Would be good to see some title coming back to Cavan.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on November 27, 2009, 04:14:35 PM
All the best to Lavey. Won't be able to make it but hopefully they can do the job.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dougal on November 28, 2009, 11:23:43 AM
i see eoin mcguigan from belturbet got called up to the cavan panel.anyone hear of any others?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on November 29, 2009, 04:20:57 PM
Lavey beaten by two and had a man sent off in early second half. Killann Gaels beaten by 9.

Thats all our teams done and dusted for the year!

Hard luck anyway they Lavey, they are a good hard workin bunch of lads.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dougal on November 29, 2009, 05:08:45 PM
lavey lost by 3 and fergal smith was sent off mid to late 1st half.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BigMac on November 30, 2009, 11:22:54 AM
Any truth in the rumour that the referee was hit in the Ballyhaise Laragh under 21 game? Who won this game?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on November 30, 2009, 02:43:03 PM
Quote from: BigMac on November 30, 2009, 11:22:54 AM
Any truth in the rumour that the referee was hit in the Ballyhaise Laragh under 21 game? Who won this game?

Yes. Martin Sexton was referee. Ballyhaise won by 6.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dougal on November 30, 2009, 06:15:59 PM
Quote from: boojangles on November 30, 2009, 02:43:03 PM
Quote from: BigMac on November 30, 2009, 11:22:54 AM
Any truth in the rumour that the referee was hit in the Ballyhaise Laragh under 21 game? Who won this game?

Yes. Martin Sexton was referee. Ballyhaise won by 6.

i dont agree with it,but it was only a matter of time before someone did it.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on November 30, 2009, 10:00:26 PM
Quote from: Dougal on November 30, 2009, 06:15:59 PM
Quote from: boojangles on November 30, 2009, 02:43:03 PM
Quote from: BigMac on November 30, 2009, 11:22:54 AM
Any truth in the rumour that the referee was hit in the Ballyhaise Laragh under 21 game? Who won this game?

Yes. Martin Sexton was referee. Ballyhaise won by 6.

i dont agree with it,but it was only a matter of time before someone did it.

Only a matter of time before its on the back page of the Daily Star too Id imagine.These type of incidents are far too common in Cavan off late.This is the fourth assault on an official in the last 2 years by someone connected to a Cavan club.
The perpetrator will definitely pay for this.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dougal on November 30, 2009, 10:06:37 PM
who do you feel is to blame,personally i think there are alot of biased refs in the county,and plenty that just arent up to standard,but i often wonder would there be as much trouble in other counties if these refs were reffing there?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on November 30, 2009, 10:12:24 PM
Happens in a lot of places unfortunately...

Look at the galway county final face and sure in derry a ref got put in the boot of the car. I know of a boy in antrim, a few years ago now, who pulled the hurl round a ref.

No matter what a ref does he doesn't deserve that.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on November 30, 2009, 11:32:30 PM
Quote from: Dougal on November 30, 2009, 10:06:37 PM
who do you feel is to blame,personally i think there are alot of biased refs in the county,and plenty that just arent up to standard,but i often wonder would there be as much trouble in other counties if these refs were reffing there?

The standard of refereeing is terrible in Cavan but the other side to it is the culture that is allowed in the GAA whereby referees are abused both verbally and physically by players,supporters and management. We could learn so much from Rugby in this regard but it would take years to change the mindset. Only a handful of referees command respect in Cavan and that also has to change.There needs to be more monitoring of standards and individual performance. I see that one of the candidates for the County Chair has made this a priority if he gets in.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cookstownblue on December 01, 2009, 09:35:53 AM
Hard luck Lavey, your hard hitting tactics nearly worked, although i think the ref destroyed what could have been a great game!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on December 01, 2009, 11:49:04 AM
Quote from: cookstownblue on December 01, 2009, 09:35:53 AM
Hard luck Lavey, your hard hitting tactics nearly worked, although i think the ref destroyed what could have been a great game!
Thank Cookstownblue.

Hopefully Mr Hyland will instill this into the U21s.  I hear Mr Farrelly is going to Lavey next year.  Don't think we'll make the final next year!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on December 01, 2009, 12:50:44 PM
Quote from: Denn Forever on December 01, 2009, 11:49:04 AM
Quote from: cookstownblue on December 01, 2009, 09:35:53 AM
Hard luck Lavey, your hard hitting tactics nearly worked, although i think the ref destroyed what could have been a great game!
Thank Cookstownblue.

Hopefully Mr Hyland will instill this into the U21s.  I hear Mr Farrelly is going to Lavey next year.  Don't think we'll make the final next year!

I wouldn't think of Lavey as a hard-hitting team.Bar maybe 3 or 4 lads,they would be a very small and young team. I wasn't at the game but I heard that Mulligan getting MOTM was a joke?? Maybe Cookstown Blue could give an honest opinion? I heard Darren Smith had done very well on him.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dougal on December 01, 2009, 08:07:21 PM
Quote from: boojangles on December 01, 2009, 12:50:44 PM
Quote from: Denn Forever on December 01, 2009, 11:49:04 AM
Quote from: cookstownblue on December 01, 2009, 09:35:53 AM
Hard luck Lavey, your hard hitting tactics nearly worked, although i think the ref destroyed what could have been a great game!
Thank Cookstownblue.

Hopefully Mr Hyland will instill this into the U21s.  I hear Mr Farrelly is going to Lavey next year.  Don't think we'll make the final next year!

I wouldn't think of Lavey as a hard-hitting team.Bar maybe 3 or 4 lads,they would be a very small and young team. I wasn't at the game but I heard that Mulligan getting MOTM was a joke?? Maybe Cookstown Blue could give an honest opinion? I heard Darren Smith had done very well on him.

they were quite hard-hitting at the weekend,they mightn't be big lads but their not one bit afraid to get stuck in.mulligan was on fire for 10 mins max,and i think most of that time smith was off with an injury.wasnt great for the rest of the game.smith done well on him alright.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Swadman on December 01, 2009, 08:52:35 PM
Re the Ref: I know Martin and always found him to be fair and even-handed in reffing games. Yes, there are some ref's of a poor standard but I'm sure that can be said in a lot of counties. Consistency seems to be the problem in Cavan. The ref's and the teams must get together and decide what is acceptable and more importantly what is not acceptable in games. Whether he is right or wrong the ref has to have the last word and any verbal or physical abuse should and will be punished.  I am always impressed by the attitude of rugby players. None but the captain can talk to the ref.  Did you see the South Africans in croker last week? If it were any other sport I wouldnt like to tell  "The Beast" that he was a bold boy and I was going to give him a yellow card.   It is such a hard hitting, physical game and yet there is not a peep out of them to the ref, no mater how good or bad he is. 
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on December 01, 2009, 09:13:59 PM
Quote from: Swadman on December 01, 2009, 08:52:35 PM
Re the Ref: I know Martin and always found him to be fair and even-handed in reffing games. Yes, there are some ref's of a poor standard but I'm sure that can be said in a lot of counties. Consistency seems to be the problem in Cavan. The ref's and the teams must get together and decide what is acceptable and more importantly what is not acceptable in games. Whether he is right or wrong the ref has to have the last word and any verbal or physical abuse should and will be punished.  I am always impressed by the attitude of rugby players. None but the captain can talk to the ref.  Did you see the South Africans in croker last week? If it were any other sport I wouldnt like to tell  "The Beast" that he was a bold boy and I was going to give him a yellow card.   It is such a hard hitting, physical game and yet there is not a peep out of them to the ref, no mater how good or bad he is.

Just heard earlier-the perpetrator in this instance got 96 weeks,another person got 48 weeks and a player got 26 weeks. Laragh club fined 5000.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on December 02, 2009, 01:15:26 PM
Huge bans and fine proposed for Cavan club
02 December 2009

The Competitions Control Committee of the Cavan county board have proposed 168 weeks in suspensions and a record fine as punishment for one of their clubs following alleged incidents during and after last Saturday's Under Division Two semi-final in Bawnboy.

According to this week's Anglo-Celt newspaper, match referee Martin Sexton (Cavan Gaels) is alleged to have been verbally abused throughout and after Laragh's meeting with Ballyhaise at St Aidan's Park, which Laragh lost by 3-10 to 1-10, and pushed to the ground after a melee had broke out a minute from the full-time whistle.

One official from the Laragh club has been handed a proposed 96-week ban from the CCC, while a supporter was hit with a 48-week suspension and a player 24 weeks. A 5,000 euro fine has also been proposed, the highest ever proposed by the Cavan county board.

Sexton submitted his match report detailing the alleged incidents to the CCC at a scheduled meeting on Monday night and the Laragh club were said to be notified last night (Tuesday) of the disciplinary body's proposed punishments and will have until this Friday to accept or appeal the decision.


http://www.hoganstand.com/Cavan/ArticleForm.aspx?ID=121169
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on December 02, 2009, 01:51:27 PM
Proper f**king order too. We give out about the yob culture in soccer and some of the shite that is thrown at amateur refs is a disgrace. And these are under-age games where the players should be learning the game and this is the shite they're watching.
The other side of the coin of course as Dougal mentioned is the attitude of some refs. Some refs will tell you outright for their dislike of a club. Martin Sexton is a big Gaels man living in Killygarry and there's no love lost between him and the locals or so I'm told. And then there's Ollie Reilly. I hope the man you're talking about Boojangles gets in if he sorts this out.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on December 04, 2009, 02:35:25 PM
Any man have an idea what the hell is going on with Division one at the minute?  I see there are games scheduled for next Wednesday and then next weekend???!!!  Some mess having started in February!!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on December 04, 2009, 02:57:12 PM
An absolute joke is what it is C_M,
playing football in December after starting in February when the county team have been out since early July.
Final is set for 13th December,so semi's are midweek.
Having players driving down and back from Dublin/Galway etc on icey roads in December isnt the best idea.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on December 04, 2009, 03:21:37 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on December 04, 2009, 02:57:12 PM
An absolute joke is what it is C_M,
playing football in December after starting in February when the county team have been out since early July.Final is set for 13th December,so semi's are midweek.
Having players driving down and back from Dublin/Galway etc on icey roads in December isnt the best idea.
Aye imagine if we had a county team who won more than one game in the championship we would still be playing this year's leagues next spring!!

Think I'll make my way over to the Under 21 final at the weekend, hopefully they will get good weather and a decent pitch because it has the potential for a great game of football.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on December 04, 2009, 03:28:40 PM
Quote from: Celt_Man on December 04, 2009, 03:21:37 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on December 04, 2009, 02:57:12 PM
An absolute joke is what it is C_M,
playing football in December after starting in February when the county team have been out since early July.Final is set for 13th December,so semi's are midweek.
Having players driving down and back from Dublin/Galway etc on icey roads in December isnt the best idea.
Aye imagine if we had a county team who won more than one game in the championship we would still be playing this year's leagues next spring!!

Think I'll make my way over to the Under 21 final at the weekend, hopefully they will get good weather and a decent pitch because it has the potential for a great game of football.
hopefully the Drumgoon/Baileborough game goes ahead this week,or it might be put back until the new year.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on December 04, 2009, 04:30:54 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on December 04, 2009, 03:28:40 PM
Quote from: Celt_Man on December 04, 2009, 03:21:37 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on December 04, 2009, 02:57:12 PM
An absolute joke is what it is C_M,
playing football in December after starting in February when the county team have been out since early July.Final is set for 13th December,so semi's are midweek.
Having players driving down and back from Dublin/Galway etc on icey roads in December isnt the best idea.
Aye imagine if we had a county team who won more than one game in the championship we would still be playing this year's leagues next spring!!

Think I'll make my way over to the Under 21 final at the weekend, hopefully they will get good weather and a decent pitch because it has the potential for a great game of football.
hopefully the Drumgoon/Baileborough game goes ahead this week,or it might be put back until the new year.
Indeed that would be a disaster for both teams involved...

On another note, any of ye heading to the Fight Night next Friday in the Imperial???  Did anyone hear any of the match ups yet?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on December 04, 2009, 06:45:32 PM
Fixtures are an absolute joke.

The county u21's started back up recently and because the fixtures are so dis-organised and just an all round shambles it means that little or none of the players got any break what so ever.

Considering most of them were on the panel last year as well it means some haven't got a break at all in the guts of two years.

I mean, surely its not that hard to make sure all competitions are over by Nov, which gives everyone a month off at least and then the county teams can get up and running in December, while the club lads get an extra month off to chill the beans.

And with regards to holidays can we not all just agree on a two-week break on a certain date in the summer that lets anyone that wants to go on holidays do so - without missing a game or having to reschedule his flights!!

Doubt that will happen though, sure that makes sense ;D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on December 05, 2009, 05:48:03 PM
Anyone hear anything about the Under 21 semi final today? Did it go ahead?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on December 05, 2009, 06:11:42 PM
yeah it went ahead, Bailiebrough won by 3-03 to 0-4 to set up a final with Ballyhaise.

Awful time of year to have young lads playing ball. Not helping the standard of football or the participation levels. Why is it not played before the senior championships commence? It all be done and dusted in 4-5 weeks if ran well in April or so.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on December 05, 2009, 06:46:05 PM
Quote from: put-it-up on December 05, 2009, 06:11:42 PM
yeah it went ahead, Bailiebrough won by 3-03 to 0-4 to set up a final with Ballyhaise.

Awful time of year to have young lads playing ball. Not helping the standard of football or the participation levels. Why is it not played before the senior championships commence? It all be done and dusted in 4-5 weeks if ran well in April or so.

My own club have a motion in for convention to change the time of the U-21 Championship.Any of yous with a voice in the club might get on to your Reps to try and get some backing for it. It only makes sense in my eyes and anybody I talk to seems to agree.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on December 05, 2009, 06:50:57 PM
Quote from: boojangles on December 05, 2009, 06:46:05 PM
Quote from: put-it-up on December 05, 2009, 06:11:42 PM
yeah it went ahead, Bailiebrough won by 3-03 to 0-4 to set up a final with Ballyhaise.

Awful time of year to have young lads playing ball. Not helping the standard of football or the participation levels. Why is it not played before the senior championships commence? It all be done and dusted in 4-5 weeks if ran well in April or so.

My own club have a motion in for convention to change the time of the U-21 Championship.Any of yous with a voice in the club might get on to your Reps to try and get some backing for it. It only makes sense in my eyes and anybody I talk to seems to agree.

I agree to changing the time of it in principle Boojangles.  Any suggestions to when?

Quote from: put-it-up on December 05, 2009, 06:11:42 PM
yeah it went ahead, Bailiebrough won by 3-03 to 0-4 to set up a final with Ballyhaise.

Awful time of year to have young lads playing ball. Not helping the standard of football or the participation levels. Why is it not played before the senior championships commence? It all be done and dusted in 4-5 weeks if ran well in April or so.

Good to see a local team doing well :D :D

Could be a decent enough final - again weather permitting
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on December 05, 2009, 06:57:45 PM
Quote from: boojangles on December 05, 2009, 06:46:05 PM
Quote from: put-it-up on December 05, 2009, 06:11:42 PM
yeah it went ahead, Bailiebrough won by 3-03 to 0-4 to set up a final with Ballyhaise.

Awful time of year to have young lads playing ball. Not helping the standard of football or the participation levels. Why is it not played before the senior championships commence? It all be done and dusted in 4-5 weeks if ran well in April or so.

My own club have a motion in for convention to change the time of the U-21 Championship.Any of yous with a voice in the club might get on to your Reps to try and get some backing for it. It only makes sense in my eyes and anybody I talk to seems to agree.

Completely agree Boojangles. If it was ran in  or around April that gives young lads an incentive to get back involved, get fit and then when thats over to try and kick on and make your senior team for the summer.

At the moment most u21's just arse around all year, and come back after the seniors are out for a kick about. Saying that because it is freezin cold and pitches are shit I know a lot that just dont bother. The current format does not encourage the young lads  to stay involved throughout the year with their clubs.

And as I mentioned before, because it has been ran at this time of year anyone that plays county u21 gets no rest whatsoever and then throw Sigerson commitments and the likes of that on top. Lads do need a month off just to chill out, you agree?

Hope that motion gets passed Boojanles
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on December 05, 2009, 07:08:18 PM
Quote from: Celt_Man on December 05, 2009, 06:50:57 PM
Quote from: boojangles on December 05, 2009, 06:46:05 PM
Quote from: put-it-up on December 05, 2009, 06:11:42 PM
yeah it went ahead, Bailiebrough won by 3-03 to 0-4 to set up a final with Ballyhaise.

Awful time of year to have young lads playing ball. Not helping the standard of football or the participation levels. Why is it not played before the senior championships commence? It all be done and dusted in 4-5 weeks if ran well in April or so.

My own club have a motion in for convention to change the time of the U-21 Championship.Any of yous with a voice in the club might get on to your Reps to try and get some backing for it. It only makes sense in my eyes and anybody I talk to seems to agree.

I agree to changing the time of it in principle Boojangles.  Any suggestions to when?

Quote from: put-it-up on December 05, 2009, 06:11:42 PM
yeah it went ahead, Bailiebrough won by 3-03 to 0-4 to set up a final with Ballyhaise.

Awful time of year to have young lads playing ball. Not helping the standard of football or the participation levels. Why is it not played before the senior championships commence? It all be done and dusted in 4-5 weeks if ran well in April or so.

Good to see a local team doing well :D :D

Could be a decent enough final - again weather permitting

Everything going well, in April,but if not then even in February or March when it used to start.Anything would be better than the situation we have-for the reasons that Put-it-Up has mentioned.
Ideally all Under-21s should be training and playing with their 1st or 2nd team but that isn't the case in alot of clubs.The more lads participating the better so if we can get U-21s out at the start of the year we have a better chance of keeping them until after the summer anyway.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on December 05, 2009, 07:20:14 PM
Quote from: boojangles on December 05, 2009, 07:08:18 PM
Quote from: Celt_Man on December 05, 2009, 06:50:57 PM
Quote from: boojangles on December 05, 2009, 06:46:05 PM
Quote from: put-it-up on December 05, 2009, 06:11:42 PM
yeah it went ahead, Bailiebrough won by 3-03 to 0-4 to set up a final with Ballyhaise.

Awful time of year to have young lads playing ball. Not helping the standard of football or the participation levels. Why is it not played before the senior championships commence? It all be done and dusted in 4-5 weeks if ran well in April or so.

My own club have a motion in for convention to change the time of the U-21 Championship.Any of yous with a voice in the club might get on to your Reps to try and get some backing for it. It only makes sense in my eyes and anybody I talk to seems to agree.

I agree to changing the time of it in principle Boojangles.  Any suggestions to when?

Quote from: put-it-up on December 05, 2009, 06:11:42 PM
yeah it went ahead, Bailiebrough won by 3-03 to 0-4 to set up a final with Ballyhaise.

Awful time of year to have young lads playing ball. Not helping the standard of football or the participation levels. Why is it not played before the senior championships commence? It all be done and dusted in 4-5 weeks if ran well in April or so.

Good to see a local team doing well :D :D

Could be a decent enough final - again weather permitting

Everything going well, in April,but if not then even in February or March when it used to start.Anything would be better than the situation we have-for the reasons that Put-it-Up has mentioned.
Ideally all Under-21s should be training and playing with their 1st or 2nd team but that isn't the case in alot of clubs.The more lads participating the better so if we can get U-21s out at the start of the year we have a better chance of keeping them until after the summer anyway.

Really hope that is well backed at the meeting and to be honest I don't see how anyone can defend it's current time! Today is the 5th of December and my club played a semi-final. Absolute Joke. I don't think any u21 would object to a championship being run in March and April.

I really do think it would boost numbers and most lads would probably stay involved until their club is out of the championship.

In my opinion there should be no games in Nov and Dec but I understand it is a fairly hard task to organise. But what is the point of a GAA training ban on county teams if our Division 1 league still isn't finished and a christmas tree is lit up across my front room!!!!

County Boards all over the country should be fined for not organising fixtures properly and gettin things wrapped up on time- that would fairly whip them into shape.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on December 06, 2009, 06:48:11 PM
Ramor won the U-21 Final today beating Belturbet,1-9 to 0-7 I believe.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on December 07, 2009, 03:55:38 PM
Quote from: descartes on December 07, 2009, 11:12:29 AM
QuoteEverything going well, in April,but if not then even in February or March when it used to start.Anything would be better than the situation we have-for the reasons that Put-it-Up has mentioned.
Ideally all Under-21s should be training and playing with their 1st or 2nd team but that isn't the case in alot of clubs.The more lads participating the better so if we can get U-21s out at the start of the year we have a better chance of keeping them until after the summer anyway.

definitely agree it should be played some other time of the year but how many of you had minors playing u21 for your clubs in the past few weeks? the minor leagues are running in feb/march/april. the alot of lads are involved in sigerson cup areound this time too, and the county u21 team are at the height of their preparations too.  the thing to do would play the u21 championship in summer. everyone seems to complain about the break every summer because of cavan playing in the championship/qualifiers. well play the u21s durning this time period. sure some lads will be away traveling, or in america, one or 2 mght be involved with cavan, but at least it gives clubs something to focus on for a few weeks. good weather, good pitches, it'd bring on the u21 players alot and when the senior/intermediate/junior chapionships recommence they would be ready to make a bigger contribution to their clubs. you could even play the games mid week because 90% of young lads will be home for the summer. as someone said, the whole thing could be run off over 4/5/6 weeks. less if they played mid week. this is what happened in monaghan this year and apparently it was a success.

By alll means if they can fit it in during the summer it would be great.Everythin you said makes sense.But I don't see the CB going for it.
I was down at the full-size 3G pitch at Breifni the other day,it is coming on well. Should be ready for February Id say.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on December 08, 2009, 06:40:40 PM
Just in case any man hasn't seen them yet...

Bouts for 'Battle of Breffni' revealed
The Battle of Breffni GAA Fight Night
07 December 2009

1 Mark McKeever v Ronan Flanagan

2 Ray Galligan v Tomas Reilly

3 Conor Smith v Martin Reilly

4 John McCutcheon v Gearoid McKiernan

5 Brendan Fitzpatrick v Gareth Smith

6 John Cunningham v Eoin McGuigan

7 Alan Clarke v Ray Cullivan

8 Martin Cahill v Cian Mackey

9 Nicholas Walsh v Maclean Burke

10 Mark Johnson v Michael Lyng

11 Eoin Smith v Dane O'Dowd

12 Ciaran Galligan v David Givney

13 Allen Durkin v Eugene Keating

14 Padraic O'Reilly v Dermot Sheridan

This Friday, December 11th, the Imperial Bar, Cavan Town, will open its doors at 8pm and the first fight is at 8.30pm sharp, with three by 1.5 minute rounds for each fight.

Tickets priced at 25 euro each. Over 18's only, neat dress essential and entry to the night club is included in the cost of the ticket.

Tickets are available from players in the county squad or local outlets.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on December 08, 2009, 06:41:56 PM
Quote from: Celt_Man on December 08, 2009, 06:40:40 PM
Just in case any man hasn't seen them yet...

Bouts for 'Battle of Breffni' revealed
The Battle of Breffni GAA Fight Night
07 December 2009

1 Mark McKeever v Ronan Flanagan

2 Ray Galligan v Tomas Reilly

3 Conor Smith v Martin Reilly

4 John McCutcheon v Gearoid McKiernan

5 Brendan Fitzpatrick v Gareth Smith

6 John Cunningham v Eoin McGuigan

7 Alan Clarke v Ray Cullivan

8 Martin Cahill v Cian Mackey

9 Nicholas Walsh v Maclean Burke

10 Mark Johnson v Michael Lyng

11 Eoin Smith v Dane O'Dowd

12 Ciaran Galligan v David Givney

13 Allen Durkin v Eugene Keating

14 Padraic O'Reilly v Dermot Sheridan

This Friday, December 11th, the Imperial Bar, Cavan Town, will open its doors at 8pm and the first fight is at 8.30pm sharp, with three by 1.5 minute rounds for each fight.

Tickets priced at 25 euro each. Over 18's only, neat dress essential and entry to the night club is included in the cost of the ticket.

Tickets are available from players in the county squad or local outlets.

Anyone else think that the highlighted parts are funny???  ;D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on December 08, 2009, 11:07:18 PM
8 Martin Cahill v Cian Mackey

The clash of the Maroons.  Come on Martin.

Don't you just think that boxing is just barbaric.

I wonder will it be 2008 or 2009 captain that will prevail?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on December 10, 2009, 09:55:28 PM
The County Convention is on in the Drumavaddy Community Centre in Crosskeys tonight... Just after hearing that the lights have gone out and the whole crowd are sitting in darkness!!! 

What an opportunity to nail a few boys at the top table or referees in attendance and get away scot free!!!!

Denn Forever, you're hardly a local electrician by any chance??  :D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: handballer09 on December 10, 2009, 11:57:29 PM
www.anglocelt.ie

Shannon Gaels' Tom Reilly is the new chairman of the Cavan county GAA board following tonight's convention in Drumavaddy Hall, writes Paul Fitzpatrick.
Reilly defeated Packie McKiernan by 95 votes to 44 after Mark Gillick (Cavan Gaels) was eliminated in the first round of voting.
Paddy Reilly (Shercock) had a one-sided win over incumbent John Argue in the election for Youth Board chairman while Mark O'Rourke (Ballyhaise) defeated Killygarry clubman Enda Mulvany 93-46 for the Youth Officer position.
John Cassidy completed a good night for Shannon Gaels by taking the Youth Board secretary position, beating John Emo of Butlersbridge by 81 to 58.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Swadman on December 11, 2009, 08:13:06 AM
"The Wests awake" Congrats to my neighbours Tom & John though I wouldn't put it past Tom to have poured all Mark Gillics first round votes into his own bucket during the "lights out" moment. 
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: sheelinside on December 12, 2009, 12:11:20 PM
any results/points of interest from the imperial friday night?

whats the story on Tom Reilly? can we expect any changes or new direction in board policy?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on December 13, 2009, 06:53:05 PM
Ballyhaise won the Div 2 Under 21 Championship today 1-12 to 1-5. Ray Cullivan gave an exhibition of high fielding,and he rightfully picked up the MOTM award. The experimental 'Mark' rule will definitely be an advantage to Ray.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on December 14, 2009, 04:23:28 PM
No word out of BallyhaiseMan,he must be still on the sauce. He is staying very quiet lately,I believe he mite be leaving these shores for DownUnder,he is probably trying to ween himself off GAABoard.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on December 14, 2009, 06:10:56 PM
Quote from: boojangles on December 14, 2009, 04:23:28 PM
No word out of BallyhaiseMan,he must be still on the sauce. He is staying very quiet lately,I believe he mite be leaving these shores for DownUnder,he is probably trying to ween himself off GAABoard.

Maybe, like me, he is trying to forget last year so when January comes and the McKenna cup starts I can pretend there is some hope for the future :-[
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on December 14, 2009, 11:19:36 PM
Quote from: boojangles on December 14, 2009, 04:23:28 PM
No word out of BallyhaiseMan,he must be still on the sauce. He is staying very quiet lately,I believe he mite be leaving these shores for DownUnder,he is probably trying to ween himself off GAABoard.
I wish boojangles :D,
id love to be heading down to Oz like Fergal is.
Alas he will be a huge loss to the team this coming year.
Terrific win for our lads yesterday,Ray gave an exhibition.
Good to win a final,as we have lost 4 from minor level up within the last year.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on December 14, 2009, 11:25:12 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on December 14, 2009, 06:10:56 PM
Quote from: boojangles on December 14, 2009, 04:23:28 PM
No word out of BallyhaiseMan,he must be still on the sauce. He is staying very quiet lately,I believe he mite be leaving these shores for DownUnder,he is probably trying to ween himself off GAABoard.

Maybe, like me, he is trying to forget last year so when January comes and the McKenna cup starts I can pretend there is some hope for the future :-[
It was Tommy Carr out after two games lin the league this year from me.  ;D
There is hope for the future Myles.
Sure the 2010 Cavan minors and under 21's are the best we've had for years.   :D  :-\
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: PhilsJemmysField on December 15, 2009, 02:17:08 PM
Any word what is happening with Gowna and the league
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on December 15, 2009, 02:42:19 PM
Quote from: PhilsJemmysField on December 15, 2009, 02:17:08 PM
Any word what is happening with Gowna and the league

It said in the county convention report that the 12 week suspension to Gowna's senior team had been upheld by the Ulster Counci (I think it was the Ulster council but whoever it was, it was the last step before the DRA) and the fine was reduced from 3,000 to 1,500 euros.  It is apparently now with the Disputes Resolutions Authority

to summarise it's a clusterfu*k
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on December 15, 2009, 04:09:27 PM
I don't believe ya BHMan. Its taken me a while to catch ya and I think Im on the money. ;D ;D If we don't have an in-depth player analysis from the 1st McKenna Cup game I'l know your gone!! :D :D

Was down at the Ulster Vocational Semi-Final match earlier in Donagh where it was Men against Boys unfortunately.I think it was 2-12 to 0-3 to Monaghan. Far stronger,better coached team against our lads who were lacking in power and ideas. Does not bode well for our Minors.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on December 15, 2009, 05:03:28 PM
Quote from: boojangles on December 15, 2009, 04:09:27 PM
I don't believe ya BHMan. Its taken me a while to catch ya and I think Im on the money. ;D ;D If we don't have an in-depth player analysis from the 1st McKenna Cup game I'l know your gone!! :D :D

Was down at the Ulster Vocational Semi-Final match earlier in Donagh where it was Men against Boys unfortunately.I think it was 2-12 to 0-3 to Monaghan. Far stronger,better coached team against our lads who were lacking in power and ideas. Does not bode well for our Minors.

No I don't think so Boojangles.  I would have my own suspicions about who it is....

2-12 to 3 points jaysus that's some kicking... afraid to ask but did anyone in a blue jersey catch your eye?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on December 15, 2009, 09:57:14 PM
Quote from: boojangles on December 15, 2009, 04:09:27 PM
I don't believe ya BHMan. Its taken me a while to catch ya and I think Im on the money. ;D ;D If we don't have an in-depth player analysis from the 1st McKenna Cup game I'l know your gone!! :D :D

Was down at the Ulster Vocational Semi-Final match earlier in Donagh where it was Men against Boys unfortunately.I think it was 2-12 to 0-3 to Monaghan. Far stronger,better coached team against our lads who were lacking in power and ideas. Does not bode well for our Minors.
I wish i had Sloweys ability,thats for sure,
im afraid im one of the other lads of lesser ability.  ;)
Anyone know how Virginia College done or are doing in the vocationals this year?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on December 15, 2009, 09:59:17 PM
Quote from: Celt_Man on December 15, 2009, 05:03:28 PM
Quote from: boojangles on December 15, 2009, 04:09:27 PM
I don't believe ya BHMan. Its taken me a while to catch ya and I think Im on the money. ;D ;D If we don't have an in-depth player analysis from the 1st McKenna Cup game I'l know your gone!! :D :D

Was down at the Ulster Vocational Semi-Final match earlier in Donagh where it was Men against Boys unfortunately.I think it was 2-12 to 0-3 to Monaghan. Far stronger,better coached team against our lads who were lacking in power and ideas. Does not bode well for our Minors.

No I don't think so Boojangles.  I would have my own suspicions about who it is....

2-12 to 3 points jaysus that's some kicking... afraid to ask but did anyone in a blue jersey catch your eye?

Not you too Celt
all the lads suggested to date as to my identity are far better footballers than me,thats for sure  ;)
Pm me with your guess anyway CM,and il tell you how far off the mark you are!!!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on December 15, 2009, 11:59:55 PM
Il reserve judgement until the new year.Too many coincidences but Il give ya the benefit of the doubt BH.
Virginia won their 10th County Vocational title in a row against Breifne College a few weeks ago.I believe Niall Lynch has been over all them teams which is an outstanding achievement.
He was along the line today but don't think he is the boss.
CeltMan I couldn't say anbody stood out. Have seen Jack Brady of Ramor twice now and he is a fine prospect but he was played out of position today.
It was quite obvious that at least 5-6 of the Monaghan lads are doing a strength or weights programme while I doubt any of the Cavan lads are.We were far too easy knocked off the ball.
I would love to know what has been done with these underage Development panels,because we are way behind Monaghan and god knows who else.
Monaghans pace,movement and hunger for the ball was in very stark contrast to Cavans slow,laboured build up play allowing Monaghan to filter men back and then counter attack at pace.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: beer baron on December 16, 2009, 12:04:18 PM

Cavan McKenna Cup squad: Darren Murphy (Drumlane), Fintan Reilly (Redhills), Declan Reilly (Bailieborough), Eoin McGuigan (Belturbet), John McCutcheon (Cootehill), Mark Johnson (Cornafean), Killian Lynch (Cuchullains), Eoin McPhilips (Denn), Martin Cahill (Denn), Michael Hannon (Drumgoon), Dane O'Dowd (Drumlane), Mark McKeever (Gowna), Eoin Smith (Killygarry), Alan Clarke (Kingscourt), Joey Jordan (Lavey), Allen Durkan (Ballinagh), Tomas Corr (Denn), Ciaran Galligan (Drung), Donal Thomas (Killygarry), John Cunningham (Swanlinbar), Gearoid McKiernan (Swanlinbar), Brendan Fitzpatrick (Belturbet), Sean Brady (Castlerahan), Michael Lyng (Cavan Gaels), Nicholas Walsh (Cavan Gaels), Conor Smith (Cuchullains), Gareth Smith (Oliver Plunketts), Eddie O'Reilly (Mullahoran), John McCabe (Munterconnacht), Stephen Jordan (Lavey).

Any comments?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on December 16, 2009, 01:38:10 PM
Quote from: beer baron on December 16, 2009, 12:04:18 PM

Cavan McKenna Cup squad: Darren Murphy (Drumlane), Fintan Reilly (Redhills), Declan Reilly (Bailieborough), Eoin McGuigan (Belturbet), John McCutcheon (Cootehill), Mark Johnson (Cornafean), Killian Lynch (Cuchullains), Eoin McPhilips (Denn), Martin Cahill (Denn), Michael Hannon (Drumgoon), Dane O'Dowd (Drumlane), Mark McKeever (Gowna), Eoin Smith (Killygarry), Alan Clarke (Kingscourt), Joey Jordan (Lavey), Allen Durkan (Ballinagh), Tomas Corr (Denn), Ciaran Galligan (Drung), Donal Thomas (Killygarry), John Cunningham (Swanlinbar), Gearoid McKiernan (Swanlinbar), Brendan Fitzpatrick (Belturbet), Sean Brady (Castlerahan), Michael Lyng (Cavan Gaels), Nicholas Walsh (Cavan Gaels), Conor Smith (Cuchullains), Gareth Smith (Oliver Plunketts), Eddie O'Reilly (Mullahoran), John McCabe (Munterconnacht), Stephen Jordan (Lavey).

Any comments?
Yeah, how many do you think TC has seen play so far? Are there any U-21s on that panel or has Hyland got what Brady wanted?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: beer baron on December 16, 2009, 01:50:19 PM
Not sure but think Conor Smith and Dane o dowd might still be under 21.As for how many has he seen play,i wouldn't be thinking 100% of them anyway :D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: beer baron on December 16, 2009, 02:05:32 PM
Wasn't expecting to see Killian Lynch on it,anyone see him play much this year?Must've improved and bulked up a lot from last time i seen him play.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BigMac on December 16, 2009, 03:53:43 PM
I dont think Dane O dowd is still under 21 but i think conor smith still is. Would have a few opinions about the panel. It looks to me like Niall Lynch would have got his own club men in like Killian Lynch and Conor smith. I dont think either are up to county senior. Smith might make it but not yet i dont think. Lynch has never shone for under 21s and cant see the reason for bringing him in. It also would seem terry hyland has got the two jordans, stephen and joey in after managing Lavey this year. Both are good but cant see them making a league/championship panel. I really dont think Alan Durkan is county standard either. Not even near Ballinaghs best unless the management think they can mold a footballer out of him because of his size and strength. I also dont think Mark Johnson is that standard, i think he was in last year aswel and was dropped after the mckenna cup. Dont ever remember him playin u-21 either. No Johnson, Mackey, Flannagan, Podge, Keating, Dermot Sheridan, Eddie, Pierson, Fannin, Declan McKiernan, Thomas Reilly, Martin Reilly, Jayo, James Reilly, Mulvey, Larry...... etc. Only two players from the gaels, who walked through the senior championship, and will do again next year. It looks more like a development panel to be honest and id say less than half of these lads will be here by championship.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on December 16, 2009, 03:57:30 PM
Quote from: beer baron on December 16, 2009, 02:05:32 PM
Wasn't expecting to see Killian Lynch on it,anyone see him play much this year?Must've improved and bulked up a lot from last time i seen him play.

Isn't too hard to work that one out now.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on December 16, 2009, 04:10:28 PM
Quote from: boojangles on December 16, 2009, 03:57:30 PM
Quote from: beer baron on December 16, 2009, 02:05:32 PM
Wasn't expecting to see Killian Lynch on it,anyone see him play much this year?Must've improved and bulked up a lot from last time i seen him play.

Isn't too hard to work that one out now.

yep, some mentality to bring to a county set up
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on December 16, 2009, 04:46:14 PM
Only in Cavan CeltMan.

As Big Mac said it seems like a Development panel with some of the names picked,although there seems to be a lot of lads not involved who are not involved in the Sigerson either.
I thought there would b a few more Cavan Gaels lads in too-(Chesty,Duffy,Nelligan)
I heard of at least one player who took himself off the Senior panel to concentrate on the U-21s.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on December 16, 2009, 05:03:29 PM
Quote from: boojangles on December 16, 2009, 04:46:14 PM
Only in Cavan CeltMan.

As Big Mac said it seems like a Development panel with some of the names picked,although there seems to be a lot of lads not involved who are not involved in the Sigerson either.
I thought there would b a few more Cavan Gaels lads in too-(Chesty,Duffy,Nelligan)
I heard of at least one player who took himself off the Senior panel to concentrate on the U-21s.

Yea there is an element of truth to that but in fairness I wanted new guys to go in and get a chance so I'll let them at it.

That last line is interesting, can't imagine there would be too many Under 21s who would be that committed to their set up to pull out of the Seniors.  Fair play to him.

As far as only in cavan boojangles. Not at all, you only have to look at the government you will see people shoveled into jobs coz they had the ear of the right man etc.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on December 16, 2009, 05:24:07 PM
Quote from: beer baron on December 16, 2009, 12:04:18 PM

Cavan McKenna Cup squad: Darren Murphy (Drumlane), Fintan Reilly (Redhills), Declan Reilly (Bailieborough), Eoin McGuigan (Belturbet), John McCutcheon (Cootehill), Mark Johnson (Cornafean), Killian Lynch (Cuchullains), Eoin McPhilips (Denn), Martin Cahill (Denn), Michael Hannon (Drumgoon), Dane O'Dowd (Drumlane), Mark McKeever (Gowna), Eoin Smith (Killygarry), Alan Clarke (Kingscourt), Joey Jordan (Lavey), Allen Durkan (Ballinagh), Tomas Corr (Denn), Ciaran Galligan (Drung), Donal Thomas (Killygarry), John Cunningham (Swanlinbar), Gearoid McKiernan (Swanlinbar), Brendan Fitzpatrick (Belturbet), Sean Brady (Castlerahan), Michael Lyng (Cavan Gaels), Nicholas Walsh (Cavan Gaels), Conor Smith (Cuchullains), Gareth Smith (Oliver Plunketts), Eddie O'Reilly (Mullahoran), John McCabe (Munterconnacht), Stephen Jordan (Lavey).

Any comments?
Positive-
I Like the inclusion of Declan Reily,Stephen Jordan,Eoin McPhilips,Alan Clarke and Tomas Corr.
Each one can add something to the county panel.
Negative-
id question why the likes of Walsh,Lyng,Cahill,Hannon,Galligan(unless they are going to try him full forward or something),McKeever , Sean Brady and John McCutcheon(100% certain starter now imo) are in there,as we have seen what they all bring to the table,whether its positive or negative depending on your viewpoint.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: beer baron on December 16, 2009, 05:25:57 PM
As far as only in cavan boojangles. Not at all, you only have to look at the government you will see people shoveled into jobs coz they had the ear of the right man etc.

Sure look at Ryan Tubridy,how could he ever get into tv only for his family.No Fannin in the squad.Maybe had enough of getting dropped after playing well?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on December 16, 2009, 05:33:33 PM
Im guessing Mulvey has been told hes not wanted either after the alleged disagreement he had with a member of the management team last year.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on December 16, 2009, 05:58:13 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on December 16, 2009, 05:33:33 PM
Im guessing Mulvey has been told hes not wanted either after the alleged disagreement he had with a member of the management team last year.

In terms of football I meant Celt Man.Your comparison to our inept Government tho could be spot on.

Im glad that they are giving a few lads a chance.I just hope they give them a proper chance instead of dis-regarding them after 1 or 2 McKenna Cup games.Some of the new recruits have never played any Inter-County football at any level so it will take them time to adjust. Hell knows there are lads playing with Cavan for 5 or 6 years and they still haven't adjusted ::)

Alan Clarke always had the potential to be a County Senior but he was never really handled right.Brought in one year then dropped instead of persisting with him.Hopefully he makes it.

Lorcan Mulvey was never contacted by anyone from the Senior set-up. He is heading to London in the New Year I believe.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: whats my name on December 16, 2009, 09:41:13 PM
good to see some new faces in the mc kenna cup might shake things up a few lads in their that i have my doubts about but hopefully they will prove us wrong. cant get my head around killian lynch was at the trials and he's way off senior football still small and easily brushed aside must be one of the perks of being the county trainer get your brother on the panel lol 
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4sam on December 17, 2009, 02:30:40 AM
Boojangles, I have a fairidea who BHMan is, PM me and Ill let you know.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on December 17, 2009, 08:13:36 AM
I can reveal that Ballyhaiseman is

BATMAN

Am I close?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on December 17, 2009, 10:17:14 AM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on December 17, 2009, 08:13:36 AM
I can reveal that Ballyhaiseman is

BATMAN

Am I close?

Good call Myles.  Why the interest in who BHman really is?  I thought this forum was to be anonymous.  And BHman I mean no disrespect when I say I don't care who you are.

At least there are some new names in the panel and it doesn't seem like the old reliables.  Lets see how the guys react before saying I don't really think the X isn't fit for County football. 
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on December 17, 2009, 12:13:08 PM
I just wanna return the favour and send him a Christmas card.

To Boojangles

From Big S,Ballyhaise Man and all in the Flaggin Bottom.

Lovely touch.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on December 17, 2009, 05:06:57 PM
Quote from: cavan4sam on December 17, 2009, 02:30:40 AM
Boojangles, I have a fairidea who BHMan is, PM me and Ill let you know.

Stalker!!!!  :D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on December 17, 2009, 05:09:41 PM
Quote from: Denn Forever on December 17, 2009, 10:17:14 AM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on December 17, 2009, 08:13:36 AM
I can reveal that Ballyhaiseman is

BATMAN

Am I close?

Good call Myles.  Why the interest in who BHman really is?  I thought this forum was to be anonymous.  And BHman I mean no disrespect when I say I don't care who you are.

At least there are some new names in the panel and it doesn't seem like the old reliables.  Lets see how the guys react before saying I don't really think the X isn't fit for County football.

You and me both DF,i wish they would leave me alone,its not like im a member of the county panel or anything,OR AM I??????!!!!!!!!!!  ;D
Now il be accused of being Ray.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on December 17, 2009, 07:33:07 PM
BHMan has stalkers on gaaboard... very jealous - guess I'll just have to make do with chicks stalking me around niteclubs   :-\..... oh well  ;D

On another note, there is a thread elsewhere on this yoke about money from the soccer/rugby filtering back down from county boards to clubs...  Anyone know what became of / or is planned for the share Cavan Co. Board received?  haven't heard anything good, bad or indifferent about it.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on December 17, 2009, 08:13:38 PM
Quote from: Celt_Man on December 17, 2009, 07:33:07 PM
BHMan has stalkers on gaaboard... very jealous - guess I'll just have to make do with chicks stalking me around niteclubs   :-\..... oh well  ;D

On another note, there is a thread elsewhere on this yoke about money from the soccer/rugby filtering back down from county boards to clubs...  Anyone know what became of / or is planned for the share Cavan Co. Board received?  haven't heard anything good, bad or indifferent about it.

One million of the 1.1 Million needed to install the new 3G surface at Breifni Park is coming from Croke Park. I know that is mostly aimed at County teams but it should b available to all clubs too.

My own club received a grant (about 10k) last year to install new floodlights.

Wheres this Niteclub CeltMan? Please don't say the White Horse??!!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: beer baron on December 17, 2009, 08:19:01 PM
the white horse is where its all going down boojangles-ha
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on December 17, 2009, 08:50:35 PM
Quote from: boojangles on December 17, 2009, 08:13:38 PM
Quote from: Celt_Man on December 17, 2009, 07:33:07 PM
BHMan has stalkers on gaaboard... very jealous - guess I'll just have to make do with chicks stalking me around niteclubs   :-\..... oh well  ;D

On another note, there is a thread elsewhere on this yoke about money from the soccer/rugby filtering back down from county boards to clubs...  Anyone know what became of / or is planned for the share Cavan Co. Board received?  haven't heard anything good, bad or indifferent about it.

One million of the 1.1 Million needed to install the new 3G surface at Breifni Park is coming from Croke Park. I know that is mostly aimed at County teams but it should b available to all clubs too.

My own club received a grant (about 10k) last year to install new floodlights.

Wheres this Niteclub CeltMan? Please don't say the White Horse??!!

Wherever I go, that's where they will be Boojangles!!  ;D ;D ;D

Definitely none in the White Horse though they are all 16 and under or married, either way untouchable!!!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on December 19, 2009, 05:03:07 PM
So the boxing is done and the McKenna cup panel is picked.

Anyone feeling anymore optimistic about the year ahead yet?

i like a few of the new faces that are being given a shit but a few I find a little strange. Then again we get hit heavily but players in college and it can do no harm to look at players.

Does anyone know why Darren Smith or Paddy Gumley are not being given a chance?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on December 19, 2009, 06:25:24 PM
I spoke to a goonie the other day and although he can't be certain he reckons Fanin has packed the county in after the way he's been fucked around thus far. One of the best attacking players in Division 2/intermediate championship gone cos he couldn't get a run outside of corner back in a few league games.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dougal on December 19, 2009, 08:31:20 PM
Quote from: put-it-up on December 19, 2009, 05:03:07 PM
So the boxing is done and the McKenna cup panel is picked.

Anyone feeling anymore optimistic about the year ahead yet?

i like a few of the new faces that are being given a shit but a few I find a little strange. Then again we get hit heavily but players in college and it can do no harm to look at players.

Does anyone know why Darren Smith or Paddy Gumley are not being given a chance?

what is that about????

i dont blame fannin one bit,a great forward,and hasnt been given the chance to show how good he is.id be packin my bags aswell
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on December 20, 2009, 08:59:48 AM
Cant blame Keith as he was fucked around this year by the management.
Put it up made a great point,Paddy Gumley and Darren Smith,unless they were asked and refused,how are they not in the panel?  ???
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on December 20, 2009, 10:19:33 AM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on December 20, 2009, 08:59:48 AM
Cant blame Keith as he was fucked around this year by the management.
Put it up made a great point,Paddy Gumley and Darren Smith,unless they were asked and refused,how are they not in the panel?  ???

Didn't carr come out last year and say how impressed he was with gumley and then cut him from the panel a week later. Maybe something is going on there?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on December 20, 2009, 10:49:55 AM
http://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-football/cavan-club-faces-836412m-boom-debt-1982566.html

Cavan club faces €1.2m 'boom' debt

By JEROME REILLY
Sunday December 20 2009
One of the country's most historic GAA clubs, which built state-of-the-art facilities at the height of the Celtic Tiger, has been left nursing a debt of more than €1.2 million on the development.

Mullahoran Dreadnoughts, who have won 11 senior county titles in Cavan, took on a massive development programme in recent years, buying 19 acres of land, installing floodlights and building a new sports complex named in honour of one of their most famous sons, former minister and Cavan GAA legend John Wilson.

Earlier this year, the GAA's director-general Páraic Duffy warned that many clubs and county boards are facing heavy debts and face financial difficulties and, as this is the time of year when most clubs hold agms, the financial plight of some is coming to light. Duffy also warned that clubs would struggle with managing their debts at a time when revenues are being reduced.

Earlier this year, Mullahoran sold off 12.5 acres of the 19 acres they had bought for €320,000 in 2007 to help with their mounting debt. Though the club paid almost €17,000 per acre in the original purchase, the excess 12.5 acres -- situated on the opposite side of the road from the club complex -- was knocked down at auction for €165,750 or just over €13,000 per acre.

The construction of the clubhouse at Our Lady of Lourdes Park cost €1.5m. The club also installed a new outdoor athletics track as well as indoor training area, a gym and new dressing rooms which have left the club with substantial debts of more than €1m -- despite significant State aid including a €430,000 grant under the Government's Capital Grants Scheme and other grants from the GAA.

The club also received more than €50,000 under the Clár programme (Ceanntair Laga Ard-Riachtanais/Programme for Revitalising Rural Areas) which is designed to tackle the problem of depopulation, decline and lack of services in rural areas.

Members of Mullahoran were told at the club's AGM last night that the club's income in the Sports Complex and Development Account was €108,357 with €45,000 of this is in the form of a grant. Expenditure was €91,999, including interest payments of €55,626. The General and Lottery Account showed income of €68,028, including a GAA grant of €8,000. Expenditure was €72,643.

On October 31 last, the loan for building the new complex stood at €792,438. The loan for the purchase of the 19 acres of land still stands at €197,455 -- despite the sale of the 12.5 acres. Total debt on the club's ambitious development project now stands at €1,214,046.

Many GAA clubs across the country embarked on similar ambitious developments during the boom and find themselves lumbered with large debt.

According to Páraic Duffy, all areas of the association were "experiencing difficult financial circumstances'', and that a number of GAA projects would have to be cancelled or cut back. While he acknowledged that the association had a responsibility to help its clubs, Duffy warned that it did not have "sufficient resources'' to bail out every club.

"In recent years, there have been unprecedented levels of funding from the GAA central council for units and for projects of various kinds," Duffy said. "Revenue pressures mean that these levels of funding, too, may not continue in the immediate future."

- JEROME REILLY

Sunday Independent
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: beer baron on December 20, 2009, 10:54:56 AM
Lawrence you heard right.Ballyhaiseman i doubt Darren Smith for one was asked in and didn't want to join as i heard from few Lavey players that he was mad to be involved,can't understand how how he isn't in the squad-definitely deserves a chance.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dougal on December 20, 2009, 02:44:36 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on December 20, 2009, 10:19:33 AM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on December 20, 2009, 08:59:48 AM
Cant blame Keith as he was fucked around this year by the management.
Put it up made a great point,Paddy Gumley and Darren Smith,unless they were asked and refused,how are they not in the panel?  ???

Didn't carr come out last year and say how impressed he was with gumley and then cut him from the panel a week later. Maybe something is going on there?


he was on the panel last year and had to pull out because of a heart condition,then carr said that he was very impressed with him and hopefully he would make a return when he recovered.so i dont think carr cut him last year.but cant understand why he isnt on it this year.smith should be on it too,great player.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on December 20, 2009, 03:01:09 PM
I could be wrong but i thought he was cut before he had the heart condition uncovered.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on December 20, 2009, 03:12:04 PM
Quote from: Dougal on December 19, 2009, 08:31:20 PM
Quote from: put-it-up on December 19, 2009, 05:03:07 PM
So the boxing is done and the McKenna cup panel is picked.

Anyone feeling anymore optimistic about the year ahead yet?

i like a few of the new faces that are being given a shit but a few I find a little strange. Then again we get hit heavily but players in college and it can do no harm to look at players.

Does anyone know why Darren Smith or Paddy Gumley are not being given a chance?

what is that about????

i dont blame fannin one bit,a great forward,and hasnt been given the chance to show how good he is.id be packin my bags aswell

sorry that was meant to be shot :)..to be honest with ya lads I had a few beers in me at the time of posting!

Still very surprised Darren has not been given a shot, i rate him very highly.

I was told Carr sang Gumley's praises at the start of last year.
Any updates on Miller?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on December 24, 2009, 07:19:14 AM
Lads
Wishing you all a happy and safe christmas and an enjoyable new year.
Hopefully 2010 is a good year for Cavan football.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on December 24, 2009, 10:23:06 AM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on December 24, 2009, 07:19:14 AM
Lads
Wishing you all a happy and safe christmas and an enjoyable new year.
Hopefully 2010 is a good year for Cavan football.
Ditto BH Man although the optimism is at an all time low. But I'll be in Healy Park on January 9 anyway.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on December 25, 2009, 01:46:43 PM
Happy Christmas to all and here's to a good 2010!!!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Mr. Pain on December 25, 2009, 07:17:26 PM
A Christmas Message From Mr. Pain

At this time of year Mr. Pain's  Paininis are snuggling up to a warm fire, drinking wine and eating turkey. Gifts are exchanged and kids make a hell of a lot of noise after Santy has arrived. A cold air sweeps outside and this year a white landscape blesses the day. It is a wonderful time of year for most but not for all.

Mr. Pain asks you to spare a thought for Mr. Pain himself. Today began like every other Christmas Day. Mrs. Pain got up early to sort out the turkey. The Paininis got their usual colouring book that came free with a magazine, or Santy if you wish. Great you would think. However, the Pain Dog hates Christmas. When you live in a council estate it is not very pleasant at Christmas. Mr. Pain is constantly bombarded with snowballs, usually with a stone hidden inside. One kid even threw a yellow snow ball which landed in Mr. Pain's mouth. The little trees outside the Pain residence were taken Christmas Eve and presumably placed in the homes of the unruly. Mrs. Pain burned the turkey as usual. That woman must have taken cookery classes from a bum and has the tenderness of Hollow Man. Dessert consisted of a small tub of Muller Rice or a Tangle Twister. Now, as the irked Pain-master-general sits in the cold his only respite is that Christmas is almost over.

So, Mr. Pain hopes that you all choke on your turkey sandwiches, especially Ballyhaise Man.

Christmas Rant Over!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: beer baron on December 26, 2009, 09:59:38 AM
At this time of year Mr. Pain's  Paininis are snuggling up to a warm fire, drinking wine and eating turkey. Gifts are exchanged and kids make a hell of a lot of noise after Santy has arrived. A cold air sweeps outside and this year a white landscape blesses the day. It is a wonderful time of year for most but not for all.

Mr. Pain asks you to spare a thought for Mr. Pain himself. Today began like every other Christmas Day. Mrs. Pain got up early to sort out the turkey. The Paininis got their usual colouring book that came free with a magazine, or Santy if you wish. Great you would think. However, the Pain Dog hates Christmas. When you live in a council estate it is not very pleasant at Christmas. Mr. Pain is constantly bombarded with snowballs, usually with a stone hidden inside. One kid even threw a yellow snow ball which landed in Mr. Pain's mouth. The little trees outside the Pain residence were taken Christmas Eve and presumably placed in the homes of the unruly. Mrs. Pain burned the turkey as usual. That woman must have taken cookery classes from a bum and has the tenderness of Hollow Man. Dessert consisted of a small tub of Muller Rice or a Tangle Twister. Now, as the irked Pain-master-general sits in the cold his only respite is that Christmas is almost over.

So, Mr. Pain hopes that you all choke on your turkey sandwiches, especially Ballyhaise Man.

Christmas Rant Over!

You living in kells?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: beer baron on December 26, 2009, 10:00:26 AM
To  the beermobile
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on December 26, 2009, 11:24:23 AM
I think il join you in the beer mobile for a day trip to the pub/bookies!

Today is going to be my lucky day ;D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dougal on December 27, 2009, 01:18:14 PM
some stuff i heard round the town last night.john lyng and rory donohue are moving to killygarry for next year.two very good club players.does anyone know,do either of them live in killygarry,or why they might be moving there?any other transfers?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on December 27, 2009, 03:15:34 PM
Quote from: Dougal on December 27, 2009, 01:18:14 PM
some stuff i heard round the town last night.john lyng and rory donohue are moving to killygarry for next year.two very good club players.does anyone know,do either of them live in killygarry,or why they might be moving there?any other transfers?

A pinch of salt is definitely required for all stories and rumours heard around this part of the year...
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on December 27, 2009, 03:24:27 PM
Anyone else hear that the leagues are meant to be starting on the same date as this year??  End of February or so.... (Again see above post)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dougal on December 27, 2009, 04:45:27 PM
lyng is a dead cert,i know the lad who signed his transfer papers well,and donohue wasnt invovled with belturbet this year and might be looking to play football again.il find out later on if the fixtures list has been sent out to the clubs
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: jonb_cúl on December 29, 2009, 01:43:49 AM
lyng leaving crosserlough, you sure???? that's a big loss for them, thats a few players they have lost now. some interesting appointments already, i know very little about any of the new faces but alot coming in from other counties, killygary going for 2 monaghan men, mullahorn gone for the fermanagh option.
any truth that pat holmes is heading to the gaels?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tierworker blue on December 29, 2009, 05:10:34 PM
Hope ye all had a good Christmas folks...Happy New Year and all that jazz! Hopefully we'll see some improvements in 2010!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on December 29, 2009, 08:39:58 PM
There must be serious problems in the Crosserlough club,
You had their best midfielder Declan Gaffney not playing for alot of the year in 2009,
Now John Lyng,a very good club footballer is leaving????
Add in their struggles this year,and questions must surely be asked.
Their is alot of talent in that club.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on December 29, 2009, 09:29:15 PM
I don't think John Lyng is going to Killygarry unless something has changed. Maybe a Dublin club though.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on December 29, 2009, 10:27:56 PM
Another tragedy for the Killinkere club with the news of the death of Tommy Clarke,brother of James. Not too sure about the cause of death but my condolonsces go out to all his family and friends. A very decent,honest and unassuming lad who represented Cavan at Minor level in 2002 and 2003.
May he rest in peace.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dougal on December 29, 2009, 10:40:03 PM
Quote from: boojangles on December 29, 2009, 09:29:15 PM
I don't think John Lyng is going to Killygarry unless something has changed. Maybe a Dublin club though.

boo,im certain of it,i work with the lad who got the letter from lyng asking for a transfer to killygarry,and papers were signed friday before xmas.i remember him telling me months ago that gaffney was looking for a transfer to duleek(i think) next year,but i couldnt tell you how much of that was true.

Quote from: boojangles on December 29, 2009, 10:27:56 PM
Another tragedy for the Killinkere club with the news of the death of Tommy Clarke,brother of James. Not too sure about the cause of death but my condolonsces go out to all his family and friends. A very decent,honest and unassuming lad who represented Cavan at Minor level in 2002 and 2003.
May he rest in peace.

very sad news indeed.
may he rest in peace.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on December 30, 2009, 02:03:35 AM
Quote from: boojangles on December 29, 2009, 10:27:56 PM
Another tragedy for the Killinkere club with the news of the death of Tommy Clarke,brother of James. Not too sure about the cause of death but my condolonsces go out to all his family and friends. A very decent,honest and unassuming lad who represented Cavan at Minor level in 2002 and 2003.
May he rest in peace.

Indeed an absolute tragedy but my heart goes out to his family and all in Killinkere...
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on December 30, 2009, 10:26:18 AM
Terrible news. My thoughts are with his family. I used to work with his Uncle once upon a time and i know they were a big footballing family in Killinkere. What happened exactly?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on December 30, 2009, 03:02:00 PM
I think he had a brain haemorrhage myles. Very tragic obviously. He was married as well I think, despite his young age, so there's a grieving wife as well as his own family if I've heard correct. RIP, never a good time for this but Christmas makes it all worse.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on December 30, 2009, 03:04:20 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on December 30, 2009, 10:26:18 AM
Terrible news. My thoughts are with his family. I used to work with his Uncle once upon a time and i know they were a big footballing family in Killinkere. What happened exactly?

He fell in Virginia on Stephens nite,have heard different things but Sudden Adult Death syndrome was mentioned. He wasn't married as far as Im aware.
Very well known and respected GAA Family which was proven by the wide range of clubs from all over Cavan represented at the funeral today.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: An Laoch on December 31, 2009, 02:17:07 PM
I've heard something about a challenge match with Westmeath on 2nd Jan. Anyone got the specifics?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on January 02, 2010, 10:54:40 AM
Happy New Year.

So what will we deem as a good year for Cavan Football?

Will promotion trump a good run in the Championship?

Someone to seriously challenge Cavan Gaels this year would be a good start.  Though I can't see who will.

Promotion back to Division One for Denn would also be good (for Denn not Cavan football).
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: An Laoch on January 02, 2010, 12:36:42 PM
Promotion is a very viable target in a division 3 where several sides are poor, missing key players or have their focus elsewhere.

Beating Fermanagh and getting a run through the qualifers is very attainable in the cship.

An informative county website would be an administrative achievement. Perhaps a second hand laptop could be bought to replace the Commodore 64 that is currently being used to run cavan.gaa.ie
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on January 02, 2010, 01:02:59 PM
Although I class myself as an optimist I think Cavan should just take every game as it comes this year. At the moment Division Three is our level, so lets just try clear one hurdle at a time and clock up a few wins and get a bit of belief running through the team itself.

Promotion is achievable but as we saw last year, relegation is not a million miles away either so it is about knuckling down and trying to become the best we can be. Winning Ulster is a dream but for the next few years I think we need to look for gradual improvement and trying to create a never-say-die attitude.

As for the u21's and the minors, there is always talent there. This year I hope the hunger, belief and drive that is required to become successful is shown.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on January 02, 2010, 05:06:29 PM
My hopes for this year (deep breath!!)

I want to see Seniors unearth 1 or 2 new players in the league and if this meant forgoing promotion I wouldn't be too upset - promotion and a title would be the ultimate best case scenario. 

In the Championship, I would love to see them do a Wicklow or Antrim - good run in the provincial champo - then take a few scalps in the Qualifiers... last 16 or 12 would be magic - basically a championship campaign that would create a good buzz about football in the county again

Under 21s: A decent run in the Ulster campaign i.e. gettin to a final and then on the day who knows.  But hard to know what they will be like this early

Minors:  Pretty much the same as the Under 21s, however a Ulster final appearance would mean a All Ireland Quarter final spot which would be unbelievable


As for the club front, I love to see a more competitive senior championship and if it ended up that the Gaels were still top of the pile then more power to them. 

Unfortunately I think there is a way of thinking about at the minute that regional teams and amalgamations are the answer to everything that is wrong with our championship.  I think there is an element of looking for a quick fix with them.  Having seen both West Cavan Gaels and Drumbride in action this year, it could honestly take 3 or 4 years for those type of sides (in general not these team specifically) to gel together properly and be an addition to the championship. 

On the other hand if senior clubs were to spend those 3 or 4 years (for example) and work intensively with a group of players let's say 18 - 20 year olds in their clubs, well I would love to see the results of half a dozen clubs doing that

From a personal point of view, I would love to see Cootehill go one step further in the championship (oddly enough) and if we could improve on our league campaign and be in the shake up for promotion - that would be swell too!!

A bit of Underage success wouldn't go amiss either, I have never investigated it but we must have one of the worst records going.

Here's to a good 2010!!

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on January 06, 2010, 12:10:29 PM
So what will constitute a good result on Sunday? 

As you can see I'm not too confident of a win and hopefully the players will not/not have to,display any of the skills they honed during the winter.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on January 06, 2010, 12:48:28 PM
Quote from: Denn Forever on January 06, 2010, 12:10:29 PM
So what will constitute a good result on Sunday? 

As you can see I'm not too confident of a win and hopefully the players will not/not have to,display any of the skills they honed during the winter.

Don't forget Denn Forever the game is on Saturday, it would be a long trip to Omagh on sunday to find yourself 18 hours late for the game!!

I can't see it going ahead to be honest with this all bloody ice and snow
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on January 06, 2010, 01:15:09 PM
Being bet by less than 6 points would be a decent result with the panel we have for the McKenna cup. To be honest I'd say it will be cancelled if not for the pitch then for the safety of people travelling.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on January 06, 2010, 01:34:03 PM
As long as they give us a bit of notice and not have me in Derrylin before I find out.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on January 06, 2010, 10:35:31 PM
Quote from: Denn Forever on January 02, 2010, 10:54:40 AM
Happy New Year.

So what will we deem as a good year for Cavan Football?

Will promotion trump a good run in the Championship?

Someone to seriously challenge Cavan Gaels this year would be a good start.  Though I can't see who will.

Promotion back to Division One for Denn would also be good (for Denn not Cavan football).

Promotion to Division Two and win two games in championship football.
Division Three is of a poor standard,as it was last year.
Antrim who will be missing most of the St Galls contingent would look to be the best of the pack.
Anything less than the above is not good enough.

Minors with Mickey Graham in third year have to show improvement.
Under 21's now with a seperate manager also need to show improvement.
Clubwise
Promotion to Division One and an Intermediate Title would be nice for Ballyhaise.
The Latter will seriously tough going,with the likes of Cootehill,Drumalee,the ever improving shamrocks and now Ballinagh back down in Intermediate.
As for Challengers to Cavan Gaels.
Killygarry , Belturbet and Castlerahan for me will be their main challengers.
I think Denn may suffer in the championship this year from playing Div 2 league football which could leave them off the pace when playing against higher level opposition on hard ground come the summer.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: handballer09 on January 07, 2010, 12:27:00 AM
From www.anglocelt.ie

These are changed times for Cavan football, with a new chairman in place and, for the first time in 16 seasons, no L Reilly, A Forde, D McCabe or J O'Reilly on the squad list.
Manager Tom Carr and his experimental squad begin their season this Saturday with a tricky-looking away trip to Healy Park to face Tyrone (throw in, 7pm), with the county's notoriously-demanding supporters expecting, rightly or not, an improvement this year.
Attacker Sean Johnston, Cavan Player of the Year in 2008, pulled no punches this week, stating plainly that, with the '97 connection now broken, it's time for a new generation of Breffni footballers to make a name for themselves.
"Massive credit has to go to those boys, they have been around since 1995, it's a very long time," said Johnston.
"They have always performed very well for Cavan and they owe Cavan football nothing at all. It's up to the new breed of footballers coming through now.
"Those lads won something and they will be remembered for that so I suppose it's time for the new breed of Cavan footballers to make a name for themselves and try to get a bit of success and emulate what the 97 players did."
With the annus horibilis that was 2009, at all footballing levels, behind them, Johnston believes that Cavan can now look to build a squad with the required blend. Carr seems to think likewise, having called in 40 players for the McKenna Cup after an extensive trawl of the county in the hope that some new talent will emerge.
"There is still a lot of experience, boys who have been around for five or six years and know the story with inter-county football and the level of work they they have to put in, so I suppose it's important that that bunch of people come together and try to bring on the younger members of the panel," said Johnston, who turns 26 next August.
"You need a mixture of youth and experience and I suppose we're lucky that we have people at the right age and a couple of very good younger players coming on who can hopefully step up to the mark.
"It's important for the players around 24 or 25 to push on the youngsters because we need to realise you don't get that many years with the opportunities that we have at present so it's important that everyone is working towards the one goal."
While he is unavailable for Cavan at present due to O'Byrne Cup commitments with DCU, Johnston will be back for the opening round of the league next month away to Roscommon provided his ongoing ankle injury responds to treatment.
The sight of the Gaels man, who started superbly, marooned in the full-forward line as Cavan huffed and puffed out the field in Clones against Antrim last July is an enduring image of a frustrating season gone by. He uses the same word to describe the experience and, interestingly given that he wore number 11 for his club last summer, hints that he hopes to line out further out the field this season.
"I'd like to move out there, that would be my favourite position but it's not down to me," he said.
"Sometimes when you're playing inside it can be pretty frustrating - and a lot of that is down to myself as well - because when you're not getting the ball or you're getting double-marked or treble-marked it can be frustrating. Playing at centre half-forward gives you that bit of freedom and means that you can make things happen for other players as well so hopefully I'll get a chance out there at some stage.
"Games like the Antrim game last year when you're struggling around the middle of the field and you're not picking up breaks... It can be frustrating for the corner-forward. It happens with every county, it's something we'll have to look at and try to address in the coming year."
A message to supporters?
"The thing about players is that most of them are doing their damnedest to try and succeed. You don't want to be involved in something if you're not going to give it your all or see yourself getting success.
"It's a new year now and I presume everyone in there is there for the long haul. We're going to give it our best shot. It's just about being patient for supporters. Cavan supporters have been very, very good to players through lean times and the players haven't really paid them back properly.
"The time for talking is over and it's back to the grindstone of hard work."
A new year then, with new faces and, maybe, new hope.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on January 07, 2010, 10:51:04 AM
Here is the fixture list from the Ulster Council's website. Home game for our first game. 

Barrett Sports Lighting Dr McKenna Cup Group B

Team 1 Score Score Team 2 Venue Date Time Comment   
Cavan  - - Donegal  Kingspan Breffni Park Cavan 16/01/2010 19:00   
Tyrone  - - St. Marys  Healy Park Omagh Tyrone 17/01/2010 14:00   
Cavan  - - St. Marys  Kingspan Breffni Park Cavan 20/01/2010 19:30   
Donegal  - - Tyrone  MacCumhaill Park Ballybofey 20/01/2010 19:30   
Tyrone  - - Cavan  Healy Park Omagh Tyrone TBC TBC   
Donegal  - - St. Marys  MacCumhaill Park Ballybofey TBC TBC 
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on January 07, 2010, 01:28:02 PM
Quote from: Denn Forever on January 07, 2010, 10:51:04 AM
Here is the fixture list from the Ulster Council's website. Home game for our first game. 

Barrett Sports Lighting Dr McKenna Cup Group B

Team 1 Score Score Team 2 Venue Date Time Comment   
Cavan  - - Donegal  Kingspan Breffni Park Cavan 16/01/2010 19:00   
Tyrone  - - St. Marys  Healy Park Omagh Tyrone 17/01/2010 14:00   
Cavan  - - St. Marys  Kingspan Breffni Park Cavan 20/01/2010 19:30   
Donegal  - - Tyrone  MacCumhaill Park Ballybofey 20/01/2010 19:30   
Tyrone  - - Cavan  Healy Park Omagh Tyrone TBC TBC   
Donegal  - - St. Marys  MacCumhaill Park Ballybofey TBC TBC 

So does TBC mean that the Tyrone game definitely won't be on this Saturday or that it might be cos it looks like nothing else has changed?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on January 07, 2010, 02:35:22 PM
Yea this weekend's whole games are postponed.... 

Taken from Ulster GAA website

Due to the current adverse weather conditions and the predicted weather forecast for the next five days, the Round 1 fixtures in the Barrett Sport Lighting Dr McKenna Cup scheduled for this weekend, Saturday 9th / Sunday 10th January have been postponed.

The revised fixture schedule for this competition is shown below:

Fixtures:
All Sunday games at 2.00 p.m.: All midweek games at 7.30 p.m.
(Extra time to be played if required in Semi finals & Final)

Sat 16th Jan: Round 2:

Group A
Armagh v UUJ at Crossmaglen (2.00pm)

Group B                                           
Cavan v Donegal at Kingspan Breffni Park (7.00pm)

Group C                                                           
Down v Queens at Pairc Esler (7.00pm)

Sun 17th Jan: Round 2:

Group A
Fermanagh v Monaghan at Brewster Park

Group B                                           
Tyrone v St. Mary's at Healy Park

Group C                                                                                       
Antrim v Derry at Casement Park

Wed 20th Jan: Round 3:

Group A                             
Monaghan v Armagh at Inniskeen
Fermanagh v UUJ at Brewster Park                           

Group B
Cavan v St Mary's at Kingspan Breffni Park
Donegal v Tyrone at Ballybofey

Group C
Down v Antrim at Pairc Esler
Derry v Queens at Celtic Park

Sat 23rd / Sun 24th Jan:  Round 1:

Group A
Monaghan v UUJ at Inniskeen
Armagh v Fermanagh at Crossmaglen

Group B
Donegal v St. Mary's at Ballybofey
Tyrone v Cavan at Healy Park

Group C
Derry v Down at Celtic Park             
Antrim v Queens at Casement Park   

Wed 27th Jan:

Semi Finals
(1) Best Runners Up v Winner of Section C
(2) Winner of Section A v Winner of Section B

Sat 30th Jan:

Final:  1 v 2
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BigMac on January 08, 2010, 04:45:40 PM
Has anyone heard anything from the Cavan training camp? How are things progressing or is there anyone who is looking like they might make the cut? Any idea of what the team might be for the first McKenna cup game or is it just a lottery at this stage?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on January 08, 2010, 06:30:57 PM
Can't you just see the season unfolding. No developments squads meaning trying out new lads in the McKenna Cup which now could be scrapped with the weather. Where would that leave us? I hope TC got well paid for his commentary duties in Croker last August. Lucky inter-county managers aren't allowed to be paid cos we'd have wasted a lot of money on him. ;)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on January 08, 2010, 08:12:59 PM
Quote from: Lawrence of Knockbride on January 08, 2010, 06:30:57 PM
Can't you just see the season unfolding. No developments squads meaning trying out new lads in the McKenna Cup which now could be scrapped with the weather. Where would that leave us? I hope TC got well paid for his commentary duties in Croker last August. Lucky inter-county managers aren't allowed to be paid cos we'd have wasted a lot of money on him. ;)

One of my New Years resolutions is to not talk about Cavan Senior football team.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on January 08, 2010, 09:52:46 PM
Quote from: boojangles on January 08, 2010, 08:12:59 PM
Quote from: Lawrence of Knockbride on January 08, 2010, 06:30:57 PM
Can't you just see the season unfolding. No developments squads meaning trying out new lads in the McKenna Cup which now could be scrapped with the weather. Where would that leave us? I hope TC got well paid for his commentary duties in Croker last August. Lucky inter-county managers aren't allowed to be paid cos we'd have wasted a lot of money on him. ;)
You lasted  8 days.  Next year you'll have got the hang of it.

Unless of course if we get out of Division 3 and win Ulster.

Maybe???

One of my New Years resolutions is to not talk about Cavan Senior football team.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on January 09, 2010, 11:05:03 AM
Quote from: boojangles on January 08, 2010, 08:12:59 PM
Quote from: Lawrence of Knockbride on January 08, 2010, 06:30:57 PM
Can't you just see the season unfolding. No developments squads meaning trying out new lads in the McKenna Cup which now could be scrapped with the weather. Where would that leave us? I hope TC got well paid for his commentary duties in Croker last August. Lucky inter-county managers aren't allowed to be paid cos we'd have wasted a lot of money on him. ;)

One of my New Years resolutions is to not talk about Cavan Senior football team.
At all? I suppose it is the local thread.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on January 09, 2010, 02:12:36 PM
Quote from: Lawrence of Knockbride on January 09, 2010, 11:05:03 AM
Quote from: boojangles on January 08, 2010, 08:12:59 PM
Quote from: Lawrence of Knockbride on January 08, 2010, 06:30:57 PM
Can't you just see the season unfolding. No developments squads meaning trying out new lads in the McKenna Cup which now could be scrapped with the weather. Where would that leave us? I hope TC got well paid for his commentary duties in Croker last August. Lucky inter-county managers aren't allowed to be paid cos we'd have wasted a lot of money on him. ;)

One of my New Years resolutions is to not talk about Cavan Senior football team.
At all? I suppose it is the local thread.

There is Minor,U-21 and club football. Maybe its January Blues but TBH alot of it just depresses me these days.New Year should bring optimism and hope but I can't find it. Obviously I'd do anything to see Cavan victorious once again but it just seems like a dark tunnell at the moment. Reports from the first meeting of our Youth Board last night wouldn't fill me with hope either.
I'm pinning my hopes on a good campaign from our U-21s or dare I say it our Minors :o- I know we'r doomed already!!!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on January 11, 2010, 06:27:01 AM
We have had development panels for approx 4/5 years now and have 5/6 full-time coaches,Few other counties are putting such money into development as we are.
You've got to believe some of these years it will pay off!!!!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on January 11, 2010, 07:51:12 PM
If I recall right I think it was McHugh who got the county board to start looking at coaching and putting underage structures in place and so on.
That's about 15 years ago if I'm correct and we haven't won anything at underage in that time, unless you include 1996 which I wouldn't. I know full time coaches are a more recent addition although James Lovett (Games Development I think) had/has been knocking about a very long time with little tangible result in terms of udnerage achievement.
Intentions are certainly good and there hasn't been a shortage of investment, and yet we're getting nowhere. It makes me think Cavan county board is a bit like FÁS.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dougal on January 12, 2010, 11:32:30 AM
hope you's are all prepared for the long journey on sat. ;D

http://www.rte.ie/aertel/211-02.html (http://www.rte.ie/aertel/211-02.html)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on January 12, 2010, 02:24:37 PM
Quote from: Dougal on January 12, 2010, 11:32:30 AM
hope you's are all prepared for the long journey on sat. ;D

http://www.rte.ie/aertel/211-02.html (http://www.rte.ie/aertel/211-02.html)

Ha!! Bloody gobshites!! ;D ;D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on January 12, 2010, 02:26:21 PM
Looks like no Pierson this year..

http://www.hoganstand.com/Cavan/ArticleForm.aspx?ID=122439

McGee and Pierson set for London switch

Donegal defender Eamonn McGee and Cavan forward Gerald Pierson are expected to throw in their lot with the London footballers.

The news is a major boost to the Exiles who are benefiting from the recession after emigration from Ireland to the English capital came to a virtual standstill during the Celtic Tiger years.

McGee has joined Tir Chonaill Gaels, but is not eligible to play for the Greenford-based club in Sunday week's All-Ireland club quarter-final against Munster champions Tir Chonaill Gaels.

Gowna clubman Pierson has also moved to London and is not included in Cavan's McKenna Cup squad, so the door is open for him to join the Exiles.

Former London manager Noel Dunning, who is now part of a three-man selection committee along with Liam Brennan and Martin McGrath, is also hoping Gary McCloskey will come on board after jetting back home to play for Leitrim in last year's league and championship.

Confirming that McGee and Pierson were on the management's radar, the Westmeath native said in the Irish Daily Star: "He (McGee) is over. He is involved with Tir Chonaill Gaels, helping them out, so he hasn't been involved with London yet.

"I'd certainly hope he'd commit, but I haven't spoken to him at any great length. I haven't spoken to any Tir Chonaill Gaels players. I don't want to try and derail them from what they are trying to achieve."

On Pierson, he added: "We'd be hoping we'd have him."
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on January 12, 2010, 02:43:37 PM
I thought we mentioned quite a while back that there was no Pierson this year. Anyway have any idea what sort of a team will be out this weekend?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on January 12, 2010, 03:26:45 PM
Quote from: put-it-up on January 12, 2010, 02:43:37 PM
I thought we mentioned quite a while back that there was no Pierson this year. Anyway have any idea what sort of a team will be out this weekend?

Sorry I must have forgot we said that...  :P

Not a clue, haven't heard much at all about it or the panel
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on January 12, 2010, 03:53:14 PM
Quote from: Celt_Man on January 12, 2010, 03:26:45 PM
Quote from: put-it-up on January 12, 2010, 02:43:37 PM
I thought we mentioned quite a while back that there was no Pierson this year. Anyway have any idea what sort of a team will be out this weekend?

Sorry I must have forgot we said that...  :P

Not a clue, haven't heard much at all about it or the panel

All that Christmas beer affected your memory CM? :P

Yeah im suprised the lack of interest in Cavan's McKenna Cup campiagn.

Though one can probably understand it, when new faces are brought in every year, thought its always the same faces once the league comes around.

The current situation in the goals is not looking great, and I will eat my hat if Eoin Smith does not get a chance this year at FB.

Be interested to see how Joey Jordan gets on, while our midfield problems dont look like being solved anytime soon. ???

In the forwards, I noticed that Lyng is in the Cavan squad - is he still not in DCU? Maybe Carr jsut needs to get a closer look at him.

Looking forward to seeing Gareth Smith playing as well.

Was surprised by the lack of u21's in the squad - expecially considering Ciaran Brady didn't take the job over that issue. Probably better of letting them focus on the Hastings Cup anyway as a build up tp their championship.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: beer baron on January 12, 2010, 04:16:53 PM
Ha ha dougal.You're a hawk!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on January 12, 2010, 05:57:48 PM
With so many lads that have not really played senior and so don't have a natural fitness level that is county standard, added to no collective training and a lot of inexperience isn't there a big chance that we could get hammered by all the teams in our division in the McKenna Cup? That won't do anyone any good and indeed could be a serious hammer blow to these new boys.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on January 12, 2010, 07:32:14 PM
happy new year. somebody was asking about hopes/expectations for the year. hopes-promotion from division 3 and an ulster final place.

now, having dispensed with the delusion time for the sad truth. 2010 is the first time in over 20 years that we go into a campaign without a single player that has won anything wearing a cavan jersey at any level. think about it, christ its depressing. try identifying the one or two "leaders" in the current panel and it don't get much better. Tommy Carr, not sure................

expecatations, hold own in division 3, would rate relegation as a greater possibility than promotion. win one championship game somewhere. don't know enough about our minors or under 21's but past does  not inspire huge confidence.

on that depressing note i'll go back into hibernation and hope to be proved seriously wrong.

ps-new laptop, can't be bothered with the caps lock.

best of luck to y'all

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on January 12, 2010, 11:03:00 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on January 12, 2010, 05:57:48 PM
With so many lads that have not really played senior and so don't have a natural fitness level that is county standard, added to no collective training and a lot of inexperience isn't there a big chance that we could get hammered by all the teams in our division in the McKenna Cup? That won't do anyone any good and indeed could be a serious hammer blow to these new boys.

No cant see it happening Myles,
We will probably be a fair bit fitter  than Tyrone/Donegal etc with the boxing training over the last few months,
Those Tyrone and Donegal lads would have been doing gym work,but id say very little Cardiovascular fitness training has been done in either camp yet.
They will both be aiming their training towards later in the year than us.
Tyrone will beat us,i have no doubt,as they just have far better players than us,but id say we should take Donegal,Saturday night
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: handballer09 on January 14, 2010, 12:04:51 AM
Experimental Cavan side go down to Westmeath in challenge tonight in Breffni Park.

http://www.anglocelt.ie/sport/localgaa/articles/2010/01/14/3994045-cavan-go-down-to-westmeath-in-challenge/
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on January 14, 2010, 12:12:34 AM
What was the team does anybody know?

Knew the game was on but forget about it. Any surprises to get game time?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: omagh_gael on January 14, 2010, 05:58:23 PM
Well lads, looking a bit of help here. I'm doing a bit of work tomoro morning in the HSE clinic at drumalee cross in Cavan town. Could anyone give me directions to the clinic? I will be coming towards Cavan town from butlersbridge. Cheers!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on January 14, 2010, 06:15:53 PM
Quote from: omagh_gael on January 14, 2010, 05:58:23 PM
Well lads, looking a bit of help here. I'm doing a bit of work tomoro morning in the HSE clinic at drumalee cross in Cavan town. Could anyone give me directions to the clinic? I will be coming towards Cavan town from butlersbridge. Cheers!
I'll get in ahead of our local expert Boojangles. About 2 miles after Butlersbridge exit the N3 signed Ballyhaise/Redhills/Cavan. At the bottom of the slip road go left for Cavan town. Travel about 2 miles towards Cavan town and after you pass a Maxol Station and St.Pats College on your left there's a little road to your left that will bring you down to Drumalee Cross. Unfortunately I don't actually know the clinic but that's where the Cross is. There's a filling station there so they should point you in the right direction.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: omagh_gael on January 14, 2010, 06:24:17 PM
Cheers Lawrence, that'll get me right and close anyway! If anyone knows exactly where the clinic is it'd be much appreciated!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on January 14, 2010, 07:43:15 PM
If you mean the HSE office (not a clinic as far as I know) beside the Orchard Bar at Drumalee Cross. Basically follow Lawrence's directions to Drumalee Cross and you'll find it on the right just before the cross.

Assuming from your username that you're going from Omagh:

http://maps.google.com/maps?f=d&source=s_d&saddr=Omagh,+Tyrone&daddr=54.001205,-7.353898&hl=en&geocode=%3BFTX-NwMd1smP_w&mra=ls&sll=54.001747,-7.354252&sspn=0.003052,0.009624&ie=UTF8&z=9
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Western Blue on January 14, 2010, 09:03:27 PM
Hi , I am thinking of travelling from the West on Sat afternoon to see the Cavan/ Donegal match. Do you think the match will go ahead.  Would like to see what talent/players Cavan  have for 2010
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on January 14, 2010, 09:09:19 PM
Quote from: omagh_gael on January 14, 2010, 05:58:23 PM
Well lads, looking a bit of help here. I'm doing a bit of work tomoro morning in the HSE clinic at drumalee cross in Cavan town. Could anyone give me directions to the clinic? I will be coming towards Cavan town from butlersbridge. Cheers!

Without trying to be pedantic (or trying to show Lawrence up :P) or trying to confuse you Omagh if you travel on up the N3 and take the Cootehill exit on your left it will bring you straight in by the Orchard Bar on the right handside.The HSE centre is located in the back car park of the Orchard.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on January 14, 2010, 09:16:02 PM
Quote from: boojangles on January 14, 2010, 09:09:19 PM
Quote from: omagh_gael on January 14, 2010, 05:58:23 PM
Well lads, looking a bit of help here. I'm doing a bit of work tomoro morning in the HSE clinic at drumalee cross in Cavan town. Could anyone give me directions to the clinic? I will be coming towards Cavan town from butlersbridge. Cheers!

Without trying to be pedantic (or trying to show Lawrence up :P) or trying to confuse you Omagh if you travel on up the N3 and take the Cootehill exit on your left it will bring you straight in by the Orchard Bar on the right handside.The HSE centre is located in the back car park of the Orchard.

Yeh, was wondering what them boys were on about alright!

I'd be surprised if the game is off. Given to warm up next few days so only risk would be waterlogged pitch but the drainage should be good in breffni. Where you coming from?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Western Blue on January 14, 2010, 10:05:55 PM
Castlebar  Co. Mayo. .....with the early kickoff time I should be back home at 10.20pm..... As supporters were thin on the ground over here!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: omagh_gael on January 14, 2010, 10:42:42 PM
Cheers for the help lads! i think il follow boojangles route, less turns = less chance of getting lost! :D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on January 15, 2010, 08:42:28 AM
Sorry Omagh Gael, I did just think of that once I'd posted. I knew I should've waited for the local knowledge.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on January 15, 2010, 09:57:19 AM
If anyone gets details of where and when the U-21 game is tomorrow will you post it on here? Thanks.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dougal on January 15, 2010, 12:27:51 PM
theres an U21 game tomorrow,do you know who it's against?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on January 15, 2010, 12:51:27 PM
Quote from: Dougal on January 15, 2010, 12:27:51 PM
theres an U21 game tomorrow,do you know who it's against?

Aye against Letrim, either in Ballinamore or in Breffni.  Won't know till later today
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on January 15, 2010, 12:58:09 PM
Quote from: Celt_Man on January 15, 2010, 12:51:27 PM
Quote from: Dougal on January 15, 2010, 12:27:51 PM
theres an U21 game tomorrow,do you know who it's against?

Aye against Letrim, either in Ballinamore or in Breffni.  Won't know till later today

Must be in Ballinamore, was chattin a player there he said Leitrim,there leaving Cavan round 12 so probably at 2. They also have a game on the New 3G pitch in Breifni on Sunday.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on January 15, 2010, 01:28:06 PM
Yeah Leitrim tomorrow and Roscommon on Sunday in Breffni.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on January 15, 2010, 01:34:20 PM
That 3G pitch is meant to be some job...  Anyone get a look at it yet?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on January 15, 2010, 01:58:31 PM
Quote from: Lawrence of Knockbride on January 15, 2010, 01:28:06 PM
Yeah Leitrim tomorrow and Roscommon on Sunday in Breffni.

And Donegal Saturday night.  A feaast of football.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: handballer09 on January 15, 2010, 02:06:21 PM
Hastings Cup match re-fixed for Breffni Park, 3G pitch.

http://www.anglocelt.ie/sport/localgaa/articles/2010/01/15/3994071-under-21-match-refixed-for-breffni/

Yeah Celt Man, the 3G is absolutely fantastic. Hats off to the board on this one.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on January 15, 2010, 02:18:59 PM
Quote from: Celt_Man on January 15, 2010, 01:34:20 PM
That 3G pitch is meant to be some job...  Anyone get a look at it yet?

Was down at it the other nite,fantastic job with the lights.There was still no full size goals up,they must have went up on Wednesday.Lets hope its not hogged by County teams. An excellent facility that all clubs should get use of.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on January 15, 2010, 02:39:53 PM
Looks a bit overrated to me

(http://ploader.net/files/f8fabd848c751948a784871c918b4fdc.jpg)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on January 15, 2010, 02:57:22 PM
Quote from: handballer09 on January 15, 2010, 02:06:21 PM
Hastings Cup match re-fixed for Breffni Park, 3G pitch.

http://www.anglocelt.ie/sport/localgaa/articles/2010/01/15/3994071-under-21-match-refixed-for-breffni/

Yeah Celt Man, the 3G is absolutely fantastic. Hats off to the board on this one.
Cheers Handballer. Might bring the flask of tea and the sandwiches and stay for the two games. First time ever for a home game. ;D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dougal on January 15, 2010, 03:39:46 PM
Quote from: handballer09 on January 15, 2010, 02:06:21 PM
Hastings Cup match re-fixed for Breffni Park, 3G pitch.

http://www.anglocelt.ie/sport/localgaa/articles/2010/01/15/3994071-under-21-match-refixed-for-breffni/

Yeah Celt Man, the 3G is absolutely fantastic. Hats off to the board on this one.

Great news,il be fit to make both matches tomorrow so.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on January 15, 2010, 11:08:01 PM
Quote from: boojangles on January 15, 2010, 02:18:59 PM
Quote from: Celt_Man on January 15, 2010, 01:34:20 PM
That 3G pitch is meant to be some job...  Anyone get a look at it yet?

Was down at it the other nite,fantastic job with the lights.There was still no full size goals up,they must have went up on Wednesday.Lets hope its not hogged by County teams. An excellent facility that all clubs should get use of.

Apparently that's the plan, word coming from the Youth Board AGM last week was that if a home pitch wasn't playable and the away pitch too then the match will be played that Saturday/Sunday on the 3G at a time fixed by Co. Board....  Seems the way foward...

I know the upcoming Christy Shields tournament (Under 16 Seven a side) will be played on it too
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dougal on January 16, 2010, 04:32:46 PM
U21's won by about 20 points today.anyone fit to name the rest of the team?
1.?
2.?
3.butsy?
4.daragh tighe
5.oisin mina
6.james mcenroe
7.josh hayes
8.gearoid mckiernan
9.rory dunne
10.?
11.declan mehan
12.niall smith
13.shane tierney
14.niall mcdermot
15.bud fitz
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on January 16, 2010, 05:09:03 PM
I think O'Meara was in goals til half time. Don't know 2 but 3 is a lad from Ballinagh and 10 was Maloney-Derham. Very easy win and the second half was a stroll. Where was Dunne & Graham?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dougal on January 16, 2010, 05:19:47 PM
thought i heard 3 being called butsy,ye,hes from ballinagh.dont know why they werent playing.hopefully tonight will be just as easy  :).whats the story with the roscommon match tomorrow?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on January 16, 2010, 05:57:51 PM
Shane Grey from Kingscourt was Number 2 and I think yer man's name is Paddy Carroll from Ballinagh.  Cavan were good but Letrim are absolutely terrible
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on January 16, 2010, 09:31:32 PM
Donegal won by 2 point this evening... 11 to 9...  Yer man Nesty Smith must have scored 5 or 6 points from free with Cahill and McGuigan getting a point each from play. 

Mark rule looks stupid and as for the no handpass rule - don't get me started....

           Fintan Reilly
Hannon   Mossy Corr   Eoin McPhillips
Cahill       McCutcheon  Dane O'Dowd
                 Walsh
                Eoin McGuigan
McKeever    Smith           Alan Clarke
Conor Smith  John McCabe     Eddie Reilly

Subs:
Niall Madden for  C. Smith
Donal Thomas for McCabe


Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on January 16, 2010, 10:16:02 PM
Conor Martin from Lavey played the full game for the u21's this morning in goal. They bet Leitrim well in the Hastings Cup but the opposition were poor.

Was in the park this evening, and agree about the change to the handpass rule. It's just stupid. As is the one effecting the square ball. Both rules are just making life harder for ref's.

Thought our FF line was very poor in general. Nesty was impressive and while he wasn't in prime condition I genuinely think we have found a player there. 

Walsh is just not a midfielder and to be honest I would have liked to have seen him put in FF when we were struggling to get quality ball in. Really disappointed not have got a look at Ted Smith. Cahill and McKeever also done rightly. Both will be key players when the serious stuff comes around.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on January 17, 2010, 07:00:10 AM
Wasnt at the game,cant be arsed with ithe whole thing until the important stuff starts in Kiltoom in February.
Seriously small midfield there.  :o
I like Eoin McGuigan as a footballer, and i think hes there on merit,but Midfield at IC level? Hes just isnt big enough.
Ted at Full back and Thomas Corr at midfield with Eoin McGuigan coming into the half forwards would have left it a much stronger team.
For any of you true supporters who were at the game,tell us summer fans ,how did
the new lads
Thomas Corr,McPhilips, O Dowd,Eoin McGuigan,Alan Clarke and the two newcomers  in the inside forward line figure?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on January 17, 2010, 11:56:13 AM
I don't like being critical this early in the year with regards to players performaces as they're obviously not near peak condition but let's just say that the two substitutions were warranted.
Same old Cavan playing a player out of position at FB and when Murphy came on he did a good bit of damage af FF. Nesty looks quality and his distribution is excellent. Interesting to see how a fit Lyng and Nesty would fit into the same team. An embaressment of riches ;)
I thought McPhilips had a bit of a nightmare in the respect that he competed well but a few times he tried to pick up the ball and fumbled it to the opposition.
But most did ok and good to see Cahill is carrying his club aggression on to the county scene.
There was only about 2 marks the whole game and it didn't slow it down at all. I know it's only one game but I reiterate that I think the mark will be a good addition to the rules. The others seem kind of pointless to me and the hand pass was pulled up a lot last night.
If anyone's going to breffni for u-21 game can they post the score later please?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dougal on January 17, 2010, 12:57:05 PM
if anyone can give me a time,a might take a nosey.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on January 17, 2010, 01:02:34 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on January 17, 2010, 07:00:10 AM
Wasnt at the game,cant be arsed with ithe whole thing until the important stuff starts in Kiltoom in February.
Seriously small midfield there.  :o
I like Eoin McGuigan as a footballer, and i think hes there on merit,but Midfield at IC level? Hes just isnt big enough.
Ted at Full back and Thomas Corr at midfield with Eoin McGuigan coming into the half forwards would have left it a much stronger team.
For any of you true supporters who were at the game,tell us summer fans ,how did
the new lads
Thomas Corr,McPhilips, O Dowd,Eoin McGuigan,Alan Clarke and the two newcomers  in the inside forward line figure?

Corr: Didn't look totally comfortable in there but tried hard and didn't pull out of anything. Really want to see Ted in there
McPhillips: Again tried hard, but made a few handling errors and basic mistakes. Is worth another shot though. Is a defender that wants to defend.
O'Dowd: Wasn't great, Wasn't bad. Did the simple things well but didn't over to much goin forward.
McGuigan: Got involved more than Walsh and is a big strong athlete. I'd say he will stick around the panel.
Clarke: Start wing-forward which is in no way his best position. Saying that, came into it a lot more in the second half and got on the ball. However, not a man that is going to kick you a few points. Would like to see him tried at CB to be honest.
McCabe: Atrocious. Very little movement and never really got near the balll. I think it is a joke how lads can still play off their reputation as a minor.
Smith: Got on the ball and won a few frees. Looks to be slowly gettin back into condition
Eddie: We  all love him, but how many times do we have to try him to realise he is not good enough...
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on January 17, 2010, 07:18:39 PM
Wasn't able to make the match, just wondering...

a) Does Smith take his frees from the hand or off the ground and whats his range?
b) Why was Eoin Smith not playing, was he there or injured
c) Where was Raymond Galligan, potential to be a target man at FF and I believe he played well in challenge against Westmeath.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: beer baron on January 17, 2010, 07:25:26 PM
a. He hit from the ground,i'd say 45-50 yards in good weather.
b. don't think there's a reason for eoin smith not playing,arr might not fancy him?is he that good?heard a lot but haven't seen him play myself.
c. No clue on ray galligan to be honest.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on January 18, 2010, 08:25:02 AM
Raymond Galligan wasnt playing for Athlone IT in O Byrne Cup was he?
Or has he finished college???
Hes a good option,as hes big,a good fielder and is very accurate from dead balls and play,
He just lacks mobility.
BB
Apart from maybe a fully fit Darren Rabbite(which we are just not going to have on the county team anyway),Eoin Smith from what ive seen, is  the best option at full back in the county.

I heard from a clubmate Neil Gallagher had the running of midfield for Donegal,That a bit damning  for Walsh if he cant compete with a big man,who wont do much other than field ball at IC level,although he does do that very well.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Drung on January 18, 2010, 11:29:31 AM
BallyhaiseMan,

Have you ever seen Eoin McGuigan before? He's about 6 foot 2, I'd say about 15 stone. That's big.

Anything else emerge from saturday's match? I hear Nesty was good. Any of the Under 21s look like making the step up???

Back to hibernation for me.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on January 18, 2010, 12:55:21 PM
Quote from: Drung on January 18, 2010, 11:29:31 AM
BallyhaiseMan,

Have you ever seen Eoin McGuigan before? He's about 6 foot 2, I'd say about 15 stone. That's big.

Anything else emerge from saturday's match? I hear Nesty was good. Any of the Under 21s look like making the step up???

Back to hibernation for me.
6'2 is not BIG for Senior inter county midfield Drung,
Its a good size and you can get away with it,if you're an exceptional  Footballer like Sean Cavanagh or Darragh O Se or even a good player like,Fergal Doherty,Marty McGrath,Paddy Keenan and own Dermot McCabe.
We have no footballers at midfield good enough under or around 6'2 who can compete with good opposition Midfielders in this county.
what do the following midfielders at IC level have in common,most of whom are fairly decent players  ;)
Nicholas Murphy
John Galvin
Neil Gallagher
Ross McConnell
James Stafford
Thomas Walsh
Dermot Early
Ronan McGarrity
Any of the Galway contingent,such as Barry Cullinane and Niall Coleman
Brendan Quigley
Dan Gordon
Kieran Toner
Eoin Lennon

Have you got it yet?
if not,Here it is they are all 6'3 or over.
Lastly Eoin McGuigan is only around 6'1,hes a good player,whom ive played against and deserves a place on the county panel,not at Midfield though.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on January 18, 2010, 09:36:32 PM
I hear Nesty was good

Undersatement that.  7 points from a total of 9!  Wasn't at the game but a new free taker.  Is he rigt or left footed?  A tandom pair of left/right footed free takers would be good.

A good Denn contingent.  Where would you play Tomas Corr?  If he was in the half back line, it might be a powder keg with him and Cahill.  Passion in abundance but can they do controlled aggression?

Is it St Marys in the park n Wednesday at 8.00?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on January 18, 2010, 10:06:52 PM
7:30 in the park according to aertel and Nesty kicks with the left. Tyrone away next weekend but not sure if it's Saturday or Sunday.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on January 18, 2010, 11:51:49 PM
Raymond Galligan was the star of the show as Athlone IT beat Carlow 0-12 to 0-8
He scored 0-5(0-2 from frees) at full forward.
Martin Reily was playing with DIT.
Dermot Sheridan and Seanie were playing with DCU.
Eugene Keating and David Givney comprised the midfield for Sligo IT.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on January 19, 2010, 11:35:11 AM
Economic downturn affects Cavan Team.  The search for the new Cavan goalkeeper starts.

Best of luck James.

Carr confirms Reilly departure

Cavan keeper James Reilly
19 January 2010


Cavan manager Tommy Carr has confirmed that the county's All-Star nominated goalkeeper James Reilly is unlikely to be involved this year.

Reilly, who has represented Ulster in the Inter-provincial series and was nominated for an All-Star in 2008, is considering a move to England in search of employment.

Carr said: "James indicated that he didn't think he would be able to give the commitment. He was talking of going to England in search of work."

In Reilly's expected absence, Redhills' Fintan Reilly and Drumlane's Darren Murphy - a brother of Fermanagh midfielder Mark Murphy - are set to battle it out for the number one jersey.

Meanwhile, Carr has praised the impact of Dublin-born player Gareth 'Nesty' Smith since he joined the Breffni County set-up. Smith, who qualifies to play for Cavan through his Mountnugent-born parents and has been a leading performer for St. Oliver Plunkett's/Eoghan Ruadh in the Dublin SFC for a number of years, marked his inter-county debut by scoring 0-7 in last Saturday night's McKenna Cup defeat to Donegal.

"He's a good forward who knows what to do with the ball," the former Dublin and Roscommon manager added.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dougal on January 19, 2010, 12:09:55 PM
denn and lavey have not been relegated from div1.this year there will be two groups of 8 teams in div1.also,at the county meeting last night,gowna put forward a motion that for championship,all teams name 15 players and 2 subs,all other players are eligeble for junior championship.seemingly a good few clubs agreed (mainly senior),i personally think it would be a disgrace if this happened.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on January 19, 2010, 01:26:32 PM
Heard that this morning and let me start the conspiracy theories.
As I hear it, Gowna won their appeal against their suspension last year. So the county board are left with the scenario that Gowna's games need to be played the impact of which may have an affect on the relegation battle with possible appeals from Lavey & Denn on the horizon. So what better way to brush everything under the carpet than to allow both relegated teams to stay in the division so nobody has a gripe.
Of course this isn't the case but I just thought I'd be a divil.  ;)
Coincidentally, I hear that it was our new County Chairman's club that put forward this proposal which was passed comfortably.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on January 19, 2010, 06:09:44 PM
Quote from: Dougal on January 19, 2010, 12:09:55 PM
denn and lavey have not been relegated from div1.this year there will be two groups of 8 teams in div1.also,at the county meeting last night,gowna put forward a motion that for championship,all teams name 15 players and 2 subs,all other players are eligeble for junior championship.seemingly a good few clubs agreed (mainly senior),i personally think it would be a disgrace if this happened.

Why?

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dougal on January 19, 2010, 06:40:03 PM
lets take the gaels for example,they could not name sean johnston in their starting 15 and 2 subs,so he could play junior.unless of course ive picked it up wrong (which is quite possible)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on January 19, 2010, 07:04:13 PM
Any idea how the two groups would work Dougal?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dougal on January 19, 2010, 07:43:17 PM
i didnt question the messenger just yet,im going to ask him tomorrow though,so il keep you informed.i heard the phone bill in breffni last year was into 10's of thousands,surely that cant be normal?not much of a stand going up for the 3G pitch either.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on January 19, 2010, 07:58:31 PM
Quote from: Dougal on January 19, 2010, 07:43:17 PM
i didnt question the messenger just yet,im going to ask him tomorrow though,so il keep you informed.i heard the phone bill in breffni last year was into 10's of thousands,surely that cant be normal?not much of a stand going up for the 3G pitch either.

Aye heard the same about Lavey and Denn getting out of jail - handy one that alright...  No harm in keeping them up there either  :P :P

No need for a stand on the 3 G pitch either, that's not what it is for.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on January 19, 2010, 11:08:18 PM
Well Damian has to plan for division 1.  We can't be as bad as last season (but I could be wrong).

Thank you Gowna (never thought I'd be saying that!!).
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on January 19, 2010, 11:20:26 PM
Quote from: Dougal on January 19, 2010, 06:40:03 PM
lets take the gaels for example,they could not name sean johnston in their starting 15 and 2 subs,so he could play junior.unless of course ive picked it up wrong (which is quite possible)

Im sure like the way the first 12 for League is checked a first 17 (or whatever the case may be) would have to be checked also. No hope Sean Johnston or the like could be ommitted.Is the Re-Grading of players still necessary?
The way I see it is that if it improves the standard of the Junior Championship then it will improve the standard of Cavan football in general. Junior clubs will just have to step up to it if this is passed.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dougal on January 19, 2010, 11:36:56 PM
well,if its too improve standard regardless of the weaker players then i feel amalgamations are the way forward.infact i feel the're the way forward,without leaving out the weaker players.just realised i jumped the gun a bit,seeing as an A team cant go down to junior B its not really a problem(apart from weaker players,as mentioned before),unless of course you believe in burnout.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on January 20, 2010, 07:28:35 AM
Quote from: Dougal on January 19, 2010, 11:36:56 PM
well,if its too improve standard regardless of the weaker players then i feel amalgamations are the way forward.infact i feel the're the way forward,without leaving out the weaker players.just realised i jumped the gun a bit,seeing as an A team cant go down to junior B its not really a problem(apart from weaker players,as mentioned before),unless of course you believe in burnout.

It is gonna take another few years before the amalgamations will work I feel. I'm not sure what point your making about weaker players. The Junior Championship is ideal to bring good young players through who are just not ready for Senior football,Cavan Gaels obviously being an example. Cavan Gaels had a strong Junior team this year with lads who had played Senior football but Butlersbridge put them out. IMO there are a few Junior clubs who spend too much time giving out about having to play against clubs 2nd teams and not enough time trying to improve themselves or their Underage.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on January 20, 2010, 05:07:34 PM
Quote from: boojangles on January 20, 2010, 07:28:35 AM
Quote from: Dougal on January 19, 2010, 11:36:56 PM
well,if its too improve standard regardless of the weaker players then i feel amalgamations are the way forward.infact i feel the're the way forward,without leaving out the weaker players.just realised i jumped the gun a bit,seeing as an A team cant go down to junior B its not really a problem(apart from weaker players,as mentioned before),unless of course you believe in burnout.

It is gonna take another few years before the amalgamations will work I feel. I'm not sure what point your making about weaker players. The Junior Championship is ideal to bring good young players through who are just not ready for Senior football,Cavan Gaels obviously being an example. Cavan Gaels had a strong Junior team this year with lads who had played Senior football but Butlersbridge put them out. IMO there are a few Junior clubs who spend too much time giving out about having to play against clubs 2nd teams and not enough time trying to improve themselves or their Underage.

Couldn't agree more with ya Boojangles.  If I am right and last year's league structure has been done away with, it's a step backward.

Take our junior team, narrowly avoided relegation in 08 and were relegated to division 6 last year but now (if I'm right) we are now in Division 2A - effectively avoiding relegation.

Maghera is another example, relegated in 08, in Division 4 last year and fared badly but now they are just thrown back into Division 3 and can't be relegated from there. 

So Maghera were basically promoted and we avoided relegation without merit....  :-\
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on January 20, 2010, 06:37:24 PM
From Hoganstand. Doesn't anbody think that this is all bullshit and was done to avoid the mess created by the Gowna suspension. The bit I can't figure is why all the clubs went for it. There's no mention of the two groups in division 1 so we're going to end up playing more games than this year which wasn't completed and the worthless semi-final & final approach is still being followed.
Somebody please shed some positive light on this for me.


Shannon Gaels Proposal - Passed at County Board Meeting

Div 1 16 teams,
Denn , Lavey, Kingscourt ,Killeshandra, Belturbet , Redhills ,Cavan Gaels ,Castlerahan ,Gowna ,Mullahoran ,Cuchulainns ,Ramor Utd, Crosserlough, Ballinagh, Lacken and Killygarry

Div 2 13 teams,
Butlersbridge, Bailieboro, Drumlane, Knockbride, Cavan Gaels, Cootehill, Kill, Drung, Shercock, Killinkere, Drumalee, Ballyhaise and Drumgoon.

Div 3 14 teams, Mountnugent ,Killygarry ,Muntirconnacht ,Kingscourt ,Corlough ,Laragh Utd., Maghera ,Ballymachugh ,Kildallan ,Arva ,Shannon Gaels ,Swanlinbar ,Cornafean ,and Templeport.

Reserve Div 1, 13 teams,
Denn , Lavey, , Belturbet , Redhills ,Cavan Gaels ,Castlerahan ,Gowna ,Mullahoran ,Cuchulainns ,Ramor Utd, Crosserlough, Ballinagh, Lacken.

Reserve Div 2, 12 teams
Butlersbridge, Bailieboro, Drumlane, Knockbride, Cootehill, Kill, Drung, Shercock , Killinkere , Drumalee ,Ballyhaise and Drumgoon.

Reserve Div 3, 16 teams,
Mountnugent ,Killygarry ,Muntirconnacht ,Mullahoran, Corlough ,Killinkere ,Laragh Utd., Maghera ,Ballymachugh ,Kildallan ,Arva ,Shannon Gaels ,Swanlinbar ,Killeshandra ,Cornafean ,and Templeport.

If there are any other clubs wishing to enter a third team this will be acceptable and that team will be placed in Reserve Div 3.
Reserve league Div 3 will be 13 a side.

Div 1
Bottom 2 teams on points in Div 1 relegated to Div 2
Top 4 teams qualify for league semi finals.

Div 2
Top 2 teams on points are promoted to Div 1
No relegation for 2010
Top 4 teams qualify for league semi finals.

Div 3
Top 3 teams on points are promoted to Div 2. (Top 3 is for 2010 only, top 2 from 2011)
No relegation unless Kingscourt or Killygarry finish in the bottom 2 positions and either Killygarry or Kingscourt or both will be relegated to reserve Div 1.depending on what position they finish. No other team can be relegated.
Top 4 teams qualify for league semi finals.

Reserve Div 1
Top 4 teams qualify for league semi finals.
Promotion from reserve Div 1 is on request from the team that finishes in 1st position.

Relegation in the Reserve leagues Div 1 v to Div 2 and Div 2 to Div 3 is optional.
Double fixtures will be played where possible.
Each year before a specified date clubs participating in division 1 and 2 shall submit a list of Twelve players and in the case of division 3 a list of ten and these are to be reviewed after three games by the CCC. Any Club with a third team will play in division 3A and the club will need to name a further ten players.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on January 20, 2010, 09:20:43 PM
1-12 to 1-08 lads and man was that second half performance woeful. Medals should be given for anyone travelling to omagh on Saturday night. More later when it sinks in.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on January 20, 2010, 09:23:14 PM
Quote from: Lawrence of Knockbride on January 20, 2010, 09:20:43 PM
1-12 to 1-08 lads and man was that second half performance woeful. Medals should be given for anyone travelling to omagh on Saturday night. More later when it sinks in.

win or lose?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on January 20, 2010, 10:10:06 PM
Them.

Smith looked quite good in the first half, demanding ball and a few nice points.

St Marys were much better at picking off points and keedping things ticking over.  Cavn very sparodic and really out played.  We can take comfort that St Marys have been  going since October and are gearing up for the Sigerson.

God it was cold on a dark and misty night (sound like Hardstation).
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on January 20, 2010, 10:12:03 PM
Quote from: Denn Forever on January 20, 2010, 10:10:06 PM
Them.

Smith looked quite good in the first half, demanding ball and a few nice points.

St Marys were much better at picking off points and keedping things ticking over.  Cavn very sparodic and really out played.  We can take comfort that St Marys have been  going since October and are gearing up for the Sigerson.

God it was cold on a dark and misty night (sound like Hardstation).

I know its only McKenna cup but didn't Tyrone just trounce St Marys on Saturday. I'd be afraid what this team will get of Tyrone. Winning is a habit and getting a hammering of Tyrone would be bad news for the start of the League imo.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dougal on January 20, 2010, 10:35:16 PM
Quote from: boojangles on January 20, 2010, 07:28:35 AM
Quote from: Dougal on January 19, 2010, 11:36:56 PM
well,if its too improve standard regardless of the weaker players then i feel amalgamations are the way forward.infact i feel the're the way forward,without leaving out the weaker players.just realised i jumped the gun a bit,seeing as an A team cant go down to junior B its not really a problem(apart from weaker players,as mentioned before),unless of course you believe in burnout.

It is gonna take another few years before the amalgamations will work I feel. I'm not sure what point your making about weaker players. The Junior Championship is ideal to bring good young players through who are just not ready for Senior football,Cavan Gaels obviously being an example. Cavan Gaels had a strong Junior team this year with lads who had played Senior football but Butlersbridge put them out. IMO there are a few Junior clubs who spend too much time giving out about having to play against clubs 2nd teams and not enough time trying to improve themselves or their Underage.


ye,it will surely take years for them to work,but i do think they'll work in the long run.ah just ignore me boo,the more i think of it the more i realise im wrong.

nesty good again tonight,1-04 i think it was.first half we played decent but as denn forever said,2nd half was woeful.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: handballer09 on January 20, 2010, 11:35:17 PM
www.anglocelt.ie

Cavan 0-8
St Mary's 1-12

A dire second half performance saw Cavan slip to a disappointing defeat to a fired-up St Mary's side last night (Wednesday) at Breffni Park.
Cavan led at half-time by 1-5 to 0-6, their scores coming from Gareth Smith (two frees, two from play and a superb penalty) and Donal Thomas.
However, they were to rue their incredible first half tally of 11 wides, as St Mary's made all the running after the break and deservedly pulled level midway through the half.
Cavan rallied with a good point from sub Mark McKeever but the students buried a late, late goal to put the result beyond doubt.
Cavan manager Tom Carr admitted after the match that some players have played themselves off the side over the past two matches, but was bullish about Saturday's trip to Omagh, stating that he was 'looking forward to the challenge'.
Among those to impress in an experimental Cavan line-up were Gareth Smith (who was withdrawn at half-time due, revealed Carr, to a packed schedule), Eoin McGuigan and Martin Cahill, who lined out at wing-forward.

Full coverage in next week's Anglo-Celt.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on January 21, 2010, 01:02:07 AM
Doesnt sound good at all,seeing as Tyrone annihilated St Marys at the weekend.
What was the team that lined out lads?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on January 21, 2010, 08:42:27 AM
Team was:
Murphy
Lynch
Corr
Declan Reilly
Johnston
Joey Jordan
Padraig Reilly
McGuigan
Durkan
Nesty
Madden
Cahill
Bud Fitz
Thomas
McCabe

McKeever came on for Nesty at half-time. Conor Smith,O'Dowd,Walsh and Hannon came on for McCabe,Lynch,Durkan and Declan Reilly in the second half
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on January 21, 2010, 11:15:30 AM
Quote from: Lawrence of Knockbride on January 20, 2010, 06:37:24 PM


Reserve Div 2, 12 teams
Butlersbridge, Bailieboro, Drumlane, Knockbride, Cootehill, Kill, Drung, Shercock , Killinkere , Drumalee ,Ballyhaise and Drumgoon.



That better not be true.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on January 21, 2010, 01:06:06 PM
Quote from: boojangles on January 21, 2010, 11:15:30 AM
Quote from: Lawrence of Knockbride on January 20, 2010, 06:37:24 PM


Reserve Div 2, 12 teams
Butlersbridge, Bailieboro, Drumlane, Knockbride, Cootehill, Kill, Drung, Shercock , Killinkere , Drumalee ,Ballyhaise and Drumgoon.




That better not be true.


Yea exactly, drumalee finished 5th in Division 4 and you're rewarded is being relegated.....   Knockbride didn't finish bottom and shouldn't go down either
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on January 21, 2010, 02:04:48 PM
Maghera who only survived in Division 4 because Drumlane always seem to struggle at junior level,are promoted to Division 3!!!
Yet Drumalee and Knockbride juniors who were both far better last year are relegated to Division 5.

Only in Cavan.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on January 21, 2010, 02:41:12 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on January 21, 2010, 02:04:48 PM
Maghera who only survived in Division 4 because Drumlane always seem to struggle at junior level,are promoted to Division 3!!!
Yet Drumalee and Knockbride juniors who were both far better last year are relegated to Division 5.

Only in Cavan.

Exactly and I'll wager a good number of junior games will go the way they did a couple of years ago... they will be played after senior games and the ref wants to get home and says "right, I'm only gonna play 20 minutes a side"....

Holy jaysus if there is something I hate more in the GAA than hearing that...
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on January 21, 2010, 03:09:58 PM
Its not up to the referee how long is to be played though Celt Man.
You dont have to accept that "20 minutes a side" bollox.
Now its a good few years since ive played a junior match,but i think they should be played before the senior game.
At least give those lads,alot of whom train as hard as the senior lads,10-15 minutes at the end whereby they are playing on front of a decent crowd,not 10 people as usual.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on January 21, 2010, 03:30:52 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on January 21, 2010, 03:09:58 PM
Its not up to the referee how long is to be played though Celt Man.
You dont have to accept that "20 minutes a side" bollox.
Now its a good few years since ive played a junior match,but i think they should be played before the senior game.
At least give those lads,alot of whom train as hard as the senior lads,10-15 minutes at the end whereby they are playing on front of a decent crowd,not 10 people as usual.

I know it's not but if get an awkward f**ker of a ref (yes they are a few of them out there) who is determined to get out of there quick after a senior game, it's hard for him not to get his way in some cases....
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on January 21, 2010, 03:35:42 PM
Quote from: Celt_Man on January 21, 2010, 03:30:52 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on January 21, 2010, 03:09:58 PM
Its not up to the referee how long is to be played though Celt Man.
You dont have to accept that "20 minutes a side" bollox.
Now its a good few years since ive played a junior match,but i think they should be played before the senior game.
At least give those lads,alot of whom train as hard as the senior lads,10-15 minutes at the end whereby they are playing on front of a decent crowd,not 10 people as usual.

I know it's not but if get an awkward f**ker of a ref (yes they are a few of them out there) who is determined to get out of there quick after a senior game, it's hard for him not to get his way in some cases....
Would there not be a clear case for objecting against any such result if it took place?
I know in some cases both teams agree to the 20 minutes a side,if they are short of players normally after the senior game.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on January 21, 2010, 04:26:11 PM
Ah I have actually lost the will to care anymore about any decisions the powers that be make in Cavan. Its just very sad to see how low this county is,Club and Inter-County. We can compete with the best up to Minor level then it all goes pear-shaped. We have produced some outstanding talent but where has it got us. Cavan football is a f**king joke,its just a pity I can't see the funny side.

BH Man will you be attending the Coaching course this weekend?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on January 21, 2010, 04:45:29 PM
Quote from: boojangles on January 21, 2010, 04:26:11 PM
Ah I have actually lost the will to care anymore about any decisions the powers that be make in Cavan. Its just very sad to see how low this county is,Club and Inter-County. We can compete with the best up to Minor level then it all goes pear-shaped. We have produced some outstanding talent but where has it got us. Cavan football is a f**king joke,its just a pity I can't see the funny side.

BH Man will you be attending the Coaching course this weekend?
Thats the level One coaching award on in Castletara NS and Breffini isnt it?
I havent done the foundation one yet to be honest!!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Drung on January 21, 2010, 04:57:48 PM
QuoteAh I have actually lost the will to care anymore about any decisions the powers that be make in Cavan. Its just very sad to see how low this county is,Club and Inter-County. We can compete with the best up to Minor level then it all goes pear-shaped. We have produced some outstanding talent but where has it got us. Cavan football is a f**king joke,its just a pity I can't see the funny side.

I know you train underage teams etc but there is point whinging on a message board or 'losing the will to care'. Become a delegate, run for the board, get involved, don't sit on the sidelines moaning.
The 'powers that be' are no different than anyone else - they are voted in by the clubs remember (in almost all cases).
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on January 21, 2010, 05:35:54 PM
Quote from: Drung on January 21, 2010, 04:57:48 PM
QuoteAh I have actually lost the will to care anymore about any decisions the powers that be make in Cavan. Its just very sad to see how low this county is,Club and Inter-County. We can compete with the best up to Minor level then it all goes pear-shaped. We have produced some outstanding talent but where has it got us. Cavan football is a f**king joke,its just a pity I can't see the funny side.

I know you train underage teams etc but there is point whinging on a message board or 'losing the will to care'. Become a delegate, run for the board, get involved, don't sit on the sidelines moaning.
The 'powers that be' are no different than anyone else - they are voted in by the clubs remember (in almost all cases).

Don't worry about me Drung,playing and coaching is enough for me (or any man) at the moment. I'l get involved if and when I want to. I'l be whinging and moaning to whoever represented my club Monday nite. Thats all I care about.
What good would I have done the other night when close to 90% of delegates supported these changes.
Maybe Im missing something am I?? Maybe no relegation in Division 2 is actually good for football??
How should BH Man and all in Ballyhaise feel when seeing Denn and Lavey re-instated to Division 1 over a County Board c**k-up, when the same thing happened them last year over the Ballinagh incident?
What was the point in Drumalee or Knockbride making a big effort with their Reserve teams over the last few years when the County Board can wipe away all the good work with a show of hands?
It all leaves me with the opinion that there is no hope for Cavan football.

Moan Over.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on January 21, 2010, 05:52:44 PM
Quote from: boojangles on January 21, 2010, 05:35:54 PM
Quote from: Drung on January 21, 2010, 04:57:48 PM
QuoteAh I have actually lost the will to care anymore about any decisions the powers that be make in Cavan. Its just very sad to see how low this county is,Club and Inter-County. We can compete with the best up to Minor level then it all goes pear-shaped. We have produced some outstanding talent but where has it got us. Cavan football is a f**king joke,its just a pity I can't see the funny side.

I know you train underage teams etc but there is point whinging on a message board or 'losing the will to care'. Become a delegate, run for the board, get involved, don't sit on the sidelines moaning.
The 'powers that be' are no different than anyone else - they are voted in by the clubs remember (in almost all cases).

Don't worry about me Drung,playing and coaching is enough for me (or any man) at the moment. I'l get involved if and when I want to. I'l be whinging and moaning to whoever represented my club Monday nite. Thats all I care about.
What good would I have done the other night when close to 90% of delegates supported these changes.
Maybe Im missing something am I?? Maybe no relegation in Division 2 is actually good for football??
How should BH Man and all in Ballyhaise feel when seeing Denn and Lavey re-instated to Division 1 over a County Board c**k-up, when the same thing happened them last year over the Ballinagh incident?
What was the point in Drumalee or Knockbride making a big effort with their Reserve teams over the last few years when the County Board can wipe away all the good work with a show of hands?
It all leaves me with the opinion that there is no hope for Cavan football.

Moan Over.
I agree,i thought the whole introduction of  Divisions 4,5,6 with promotion and relegation from each were a great idea,
2 years later to scrap all that just beggars belief.
From appointing a sports management company to do their job in hiring a manager,to messing around the clubs by changing league structures,i honestly dont think the county board can do anything more to bollox up football in this county than they already have.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Drung on January 21, 2010, 06:33:27 PM
Quoteover a County Board c**k-up

Explain what c**k up did the board make?

Look, sitting here crying about the board is pointless. Get it into your head - the board IS the clubs!!!

Elected by the clubs, from the clubs. That's irrefutable.

90 per cent of the clubs wanted this. Otherwise, delegates didn't do their jobs. If delegates (chairman and secretary, remember, the two most important positions in the club) can't do their job, is that the board's fault?

Complaining about a democratic decision is pathetic. It had to get a two thirds majority and it got more.

Did Ballyhaise vote for it?
Did all the other clubs listed here who were wronged vote for it?

Some of them did.

The problem with Cavan football is in some of the full time positions, but not 'the board' per se. There are 17 on the committee remember.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on January 21, 2010, 07:15:46 PM
Probably one of the most stupid decision the county board have ever made. Does nothing only lower the standard of football in the county and punish clubs good enough to have 2 strong teams. Drung has a point too, the problem in a lot of clubs is that they are run by a handful of people that are often "backwoods" men. The younger (dare I say more intelligent) club member doesn't get involved. Last year Killeshandra sent a delegate to vote on Tommy Carrs future with the instruction to stay neutral, instead he opened proceedings with a massive rant at Carr and actually came across as the most hardline opponent in the place. This from a club that had 2 players on the county panel for the 1st time in a long long time! Cavan clubs have been stale in terms of ideas for as long as I can remember and allowed this to happen and until the people in their 20's and 30's get more involved we'll probably be getting more of this shit.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on January 21, 2010, 07:22:24 PM
Quote from: Drung on January 21, 2010, 06:33:27 PM
Quoteover a County Board c**k-up

Explain what c**k up did the board make?

Look, sitting here crying about the board is pointless. Get it into your head - the board IS the clubs!!!

Elected by the clubs, from the clubs. That's irrefutable.

90 per cent of the clubs wanted this. Otherwise, delegates didn't do their jobs. If delegates (chairman and secretary, remember, the two most important positions in the club) can't do their job, is that the board's fault?

Complaining about a democratic decision is pathetic. It had to get a two thirds majority and it got more.

Did Ballyhaise vote for it?
Did all the other clubs listed here who were wronged vote for it?

Some of them did.

The problem with Cavan football is in some of the full time positions, but not 'the board' per se. There are 17 on the committee remember.

I know exactly what the Board consists off thank you,That is my point,I don't agree with 90% of delegates on this matter yet it seems black and white to me so I say what is the point caring anymore. If 90% of people think this is good for Cavan football then best of luck to us because we'r gonna need it.
Whats your opinion on it Drung? Do you think this is good for Cavan football?

Im not typing out the whole c**k-up the CB made,You know as well as I do that the whole lot was handled wrong. Gowna should have been deducted points and let play their remaining games. The same with Cavan Gaels. Now we have this farce.

But hold on, none of this matters,because the problem lies with 'some of the full-time positions'.
If only that was the only problem with Cavan football.
Care to expand Drung,who ya talking about?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on January 21, 2010, 10:18:37 PM
Quote from: boojangles on January 21, 2010, 07:22:24 PM
Quote from: Drung on January 21, 2010, 06:33:27 PM
Quoteover a County Board c**k-up

Explain what c**k up did the board make?

Look, sitting here crying about the board is pointless. Get it into your head - the board IS the clubs!!!

Elected by the clubs, from the clubs. That's irrefutable.

90 per cent of the clubs wanted this. Otherwise, delegates didn't do their jobs. If delegates (chairman and secretary, remember, the two most important positions in the club) can't do their job, is that the board's fault?

Complaining about a democratic decision is pathetic. It had to get a two thirds majority and it got more.

Did Ballyhaise vote for it?
Did all the other clubs listed here who were wronged vote for it?

Some of them did.

The problem with Cavan football is in some of the full time positions, but not 'the board' per se. There are 17 on the committee remember.

I know exactly what the Board consists off thank you,That is my point,I don't agree with 90% of delegates on this matter yet it seems black and white to me so I say what is the point caring anymore. If 90% of people think this is good for Cavan football then best of luck to us because we'r gonna need it.
Whats your opinion on it Drung? Do you think this is good for Cavan football?

Im not typing out the whole c**k-up the CB made,You know as well as I do that the whole lot was handled wrong. Gowna should have been deducted points and let play their remaining games. The same with Cavan Gaels. Now we have this farce.

But hold on, none of this matters,because the problem lies with 'some of the full-time positions'.
If only that was the only problem with Cavan football.
Care to expand Drung,who ya talking about?
At least we're getting a bit of passion back into Cavan GAA ;)
Apart from what we think of these plans can anyone tell me how Kingscourt's reserves are in Division 3 and Killeshandra's are in Division 6? I mean how were the proposals even came up with?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dougal on January 21, 2010, 10:56:26 PM
prob because we dont have the numbers at the minute,in a few years our reserves will be working their way up the divisions.kingscourt had a decent div4 team last year if i remember right,div3 would be a bit too much for them id imagine.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Drung on January 21, 2010, 11:49:35 PM
Boojangles, your post is ill-informed, ignorant and short sighted.

QuoteGowna should have been deducted points and let play their remaining games. The same with Cavan Gaels. Now we have this farce.

Gowna COULDN'T have been deducted points because there is no provision for that in the rules of the association. Got it? You don't know what you're talking about Boojangles.
The club should have taken their medicine. They appealed all the way to Croke Park ON A TECHNICALITY. They didn't dispute anything that they did, yet they argued till the cows came home to get off, in the process fcking up the season for loads of other clubs. Their indiscipline and stubborness has fucked up the season, not the board.
They wouldn't listen to any attempts at mediation and stubbornly stuck to their guns. Yet the evil 'board' is to blame?


Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on January 22, 2010, 12:34:55 AM
Quote from: Drung on January 21, 2010, 11:49:35 PM
Boojangles, your post is ill-informed, ignorant and short sighted.

QuoteGowna should have been deducted points and let play their remaining games. The same with Cavan Gaels. Now we have this farce.

Gowna COULDN'T have been deducted points because there is no provision for that in the rules of the association. Got it? You don't know what you're talking about Boojangles.
The club should have taken their medicine. They appealed all the way to Croke Park ON A TECHNICALITY. They didn't dispute anything that they did, yet they argued till the cows came home to get off, in the process fcking up the season for loads of other clubs. Their indiscipline and stubborness has fucked up the season, not the board.
They wouldn't listen to any attempts at mediation and stubbornly stuck to their guns. Yet the evil 'board' is to blame?

Ignorant,ill-informed and short sighted and you got that all from one sentence.What about the rest of my post? Who are these Full-time officers that are the real problem in Cavan football?? Whats your opinion on the rest of the changes made? Have you got an opinion or you just trying to get one over me?
Your still hurt over the FOUR Ulster Titles Drung are ya?? Don't worry,easy mistake to make. Stick to the Rule book. I know who to come to for a crash course on GAA rules when I decide to run for a delegate to the County Board, thats for sure.
Whatever about the deduction of points in the rules, are you still saying that the County Board handled it well?? Evil?? definitely not,but definitely naive.
Gowna obviously acted as you would expect from Gowna,but that doesn't mean they should be let away with it.
Anyway Im not saying anymore, Its obvious what your motive is. Come back to me when you want to debate.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on January 22, 2010, 12:40:55 AM
Shambles off the field, shambles on it.....We really are at an all-time low and the resurrection doesn't look like coming anytime soon.

I mean losing to a college..Despite the absentees due to colleges and that, a county team with any respect shouldn't be losing to a college. A couple of players getting game-time at the moment would have to be questioned. Durkin, McCabe?? They were hardly stand out performers for their clubs during the summer. McCabe is nowhere near the player he used to be unfortunately and it's about time Cavan stopped giving lads who were 'good minors' chance after chance.

Worried about the game this weekend, think we could be in for a bit of hiding from Tyrone by the looks of things. I know it's a makeshift team but there seems to be a lack of any  form of gameplan at the moment and its gives the impression that Cavan are simply throwing out teams to fulfill these fixtures. Boy's have been given chances and from what I'm hearing very few are taking them and that's been disappointing.

Hopefully the  game on Wed gives the whole set up a good shake and they start moving forward and get a bit of fight and pride back into the blue jersey.

PS. Boo and Drung, how about you two hook up behind the main stand and settle this like men.....with an old fashioned arm-wrestle!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Drung on January 22, 2010, 01:03:45 AM
Yes, your statement that the board should have done something which they literally COULDN'T do was totally wrong and showed your ignorance of the rules.
I'm not insulting you, I'm voicing my opinion here.
I'm not an expert on the rules, never claimed to be. I just pointed out that you didn't know anything about what you were talking about and were short-sighted enough to actually level criticism based on this ill-informed view.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: sheelinside on January 22, 2010, 07:26:00 AM
hi guys, long time reading this page without getting involved. greetings to all, i feel like i sort iof know ye boys by now!!
and thanks for all the contributions- a good way of keeping up to speed


the co. board is very badly organised re club games. always has been.

how can a competition which needs a max of 16 fixtures start around end march/april and not be finished around october or nov at the latest?
from playing, i recall massive massive portions of the summer spent playing meaningless challenges against teams from meath, westmeath and longford, often going 6 or 7 weekends with no competitive games- from around mid- may onwards.
and then having to slog it out in 3 inches of mud in nov and december. madness.

and highly frustrating when trying to plan anything. 

i remember watching galways video a year till sunday, and being absolutley stunned when they played senior club championship games in the weekends between all ireand semi amd the final. and yet we here postpone league games for 3 weeks prior to ulster first round. 

while i mostly understand and side with boojangles points in the little arguement above, i do think drung raises a most important issue=
   the co. board are democratically elected, and there is no point moaning here. if we feel that strongly about it, do something about it. get involved


Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on January 22, 2010, 08:18:02 AM
Quote from: put-it-up on January 22, 2010, 12:40:55 AM
Shambles off the field, shambles on it.....We really are at an all-time low and the resurrection doesn't look like coming anytime soon.

I mean losing to a college..Despite the absentees due to colleges and that, a county team with any respect shouldn't be losing to a college. A couple of players getting game-time at the moment would have to be questioned. Durkin, McCabe?? They were hardly stand out performers for their clubs during the summer. McCabe is nowhere near the player he used to be unfortunately and it's about time Cavan stopped giving lads who were 'good minors' chance after chance.

Worried about the game this weekend, think we could be in for a bit of hiding from Tyrone by the looks of things. I know it's a makeshift team but there seems to be a lack of any  form of gameplan at the moment and its gives the impression that Cavan are simply throwing out teams to fulfill these fixtures. Boy's have been given chances and from what I'm hearing very few are taking them and that's been disappointing.

Hopefully the  game on Wed gives the whole set up a good shake and they start moving forward and get a bit of fight and pride back into the blue jersey.

PS. Boo and Drung, how about you two hook up behind the main stand and settle this like men.....with an old fashioned arm-wrestle!
Put-it-up, Durkan was one of our better players the other night and his withdrawal along with Nesty's took the wind out of our sail big-time. I'd only seen him briefly for Ballinagh but he'd be a good addition to the panel in a position where we have slim pickings.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: CavanCola on January 22, 2010, 09:09:05 AM
Quote from: Lawrence of Knockbride on January 22, 2010, 08:18:02 AM
Quote from: put-it-up on January 22, 2010, 12:40:55 AM
Shambles off the field, shambles on it.....We really are at an all-time low and the resurrection doesn't look like coming anytime soon.

I mean losing to a college..Despite the absentees due to colleges and that, a county team with any respect shouldn't be losing to a college. A couple of players getting game-time at the moment would have to be questioned. Durkin, McCabe?? They were hardly stand out performers for their clubs during the summer. McCabe is nowhere near the player he used to be unfortunately and it's about time Cavan stopped giving lads who were 'good minors' chance after chance.

Worried about the game this weekend, think we could be in for a bit of hiding from Tyrone by the looks of things. I know it's a makeshift team but there seems to be a lack of any  form of gameplan at the moment and its gives the impression that Cavan are simply throwing out teams to fulfill these fixtures. Boy's have been given chances and from what I'm hearing very few are taking them and that's been disappointing.

Hopefully the  game on Wed gives the whole set up a good shake and they start moving forward and get a bit of fight and pride back into the blue jersey.

PS. Boo and Drung, how about you two hook up behind the main stand and settle this like men.....with an old fashioned arm-wrestle!
Put-it-up, Durkan was one of our better players the other night and his withdrawal along with Nesty's took the wind out of our sail big-time. I'd only seen him briefly for Ballinagh but he'd be a good addition to the panel in a position where we have slim pickings.


I think John McCabe has the talent for intercounty football. Put it up, you mention that he is living of his minor reputation. Right, he was a minor for 2 years and I think he was captain in his second year. (Was he Junior player of the year in 06?.. Maybe he is living of this reputation as well :P). We have had talented minors over the past 10 years and many have drifted into obscurity. It time to dredge this talent and see if they can make it at senior level. Its a big step up from Junior football for McCabe and it not entirely his fault that he hasn't played competitive football since the start of last July. Carr must see something in these players attitude and commitment that warrants them to start in these matchs. Give me 30 level headed committed players that are willing to give 100% to training and the Cavan Jersey. I have watched him play a couple of times in the Junior championship with the Munchies. He has a good eye for Goal when he gets the chance and has  pulled games out of the bag for the Munchies when they looked dead and buried. If he could work on his fitness and speed I think he has a lot to offer Cavan at senior level.   
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on January 22, 2010, 10:17:42 AM
Welcome to the board Sheelinside. Good first post,id agree with virtually all of that.
id agree with Cavan Cola about John McCabe,you dont lose that ability that we know he undoubtedly has,Its juts a case i feel of conditioning and speed work,that he needs to be going through 12 months a year to be up to ithe pace at IC level.How did Donal Thomas get on the last two games? worthy of inclusion in National Leage panel???
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on January 22, 2010, 10:20:07 AM
I agree to some extent Cavan Cola. As embaressing as Wednesday night was, this is the place to give these lads a try. However McCabe has started two games now and was very poor in both as were a couple of others. Some players just can't make that step up and players need to take their chance when given it. Of course if Carr had to watch games last summer or proceed with his intended development squads then he may have found this out earlier so I don't agree that he saw anything as there's a chance he's never seen hm play before.
Donal Thomas was stuck full-forward the whole game. He fumbled the first few balls that came in but then won a few afterwards but the were low into his chest. I don't think he has the making of a full-forward at IC level.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: CavanCola on January 22, 2010, 10:46:10 AM
Quote from: Lawrence of Knockbride on January 22, 2010, 10:20:07 AM
I agree to some extent Cavan Cola. As embaressing as Wednesday night was, this is the place to give these lads a try. However McCabe has started two games now and was very poor in both as were a couple of others. Some players just can't make that step up and players need to take their chance when given it. Of course if Carr had to watch games last summer or proceed with his intended development squads then he may have found this out earlier so I don't agree that he saw anything as there's a chance he's never seen hm play before.
Donal Thomas was stuck full-forward the whole game. He fumbled the first few balls that came in but then won a few afterwards but the were low into his chest. I don't think he has the making of a full-forward at IC level.

This is where I think good use of the Cavan junior team is required. Get a bunch of 30 lads together and get them up and running with the proper strength and conditioning over a 12 month period and then introduce them to the 1st team as they progress. Dumping them into a couple of games in January may not be the long term solution to bringing new talent into the squad. It may prove a demoralising exercise if guys don't perform after coming out of rut.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on January 22, 2010, 12:27:28 PM
I wouldn't disagree with that. Were many of the newcomers involved in the Junior set-up over the last few years? I'm thinking McCabe,Lynch,Declan Reilly,McGuigan etc. cos I think they have been found to be out of their depth to different extents.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on January 22, 2010, 01:15:55 PM
Quote from: Lawrence of Knockbride on January 22, 2010, 12:27:28 PM
I wouldn't disagree with that. Were many of the newcomers involved in the Junior set-up over the last few years? I'm thinking McCabe,Lynch,Declan Reilly,McGuigan etc. cos I think they have been found to be out of their depth to different extents.
Thats not Killian Lynch brother of the trainer Martin is it??  ::)
Hes a good enough club footballer,but he doesnt have  anything close to the size or strength for IC level,at least not yet
id have at least 3 of his clubmates ahead of him for any county team at this junction in time.

As we've discussed before,The consensus is that John McCabe should be a shoe-in for the Cavan Junior Panel,but will hardly make the senior set up until he improves physically..
The likes of Declan Reily and Eoin McGuigan would be better off getting game time early in the National League,when they are surrounded by better players in the likes of Flanagan,Sheridan,McCutcheon,Lyng,Jelly,Mackey and co and have a chance to express themselves.
Id be hoping the likes of the aforementioned two,Mossy Corr,Durkan etc dont just get dropped after Saturday nights game.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dougal on January 22, 2010, 02:00:04 PM
john mccabe wasnt up to standard in his last two games,maybe with time he'll improve,but it'll take alot of work.ive only seen durkin play 2 or 3 times,and he was useless in all of them,but he looked alot better on wed night.mcguigans a good player,i dont think midfield is the place for him though.

we have great underage talent and have had for some time,but we cant seem to bring them as far as senior,once their done u21 they seem to stay at that level.wheres the problem?is it the coaching thats the problem?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on January 22, 2010, 02:42:12 PM
Quote from: put-it-up on January 22, 2010, 12:40:55 AM
Shambles off the field, shambles on it.....We really are at an all-time low and the resurrection doesn't look like coming anytime soon.

I mean losing to a college..Despite the absentees due to colleges and that, a county team with any respect shouldn't be losing to a college.

Ahh wouldn't go that far, sure Armagh were beaten by UUJ at the weekend there and sure weren't Queens in the final last year.  The colleges whole season starting from about last September is gearing up to peak in the next month or so, so it's no shame in a college beating a inter-county team who have only started back training and especially with so many debutants on it.... 

That said, I did hear that the performance was pretty poor
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on January 22, 2010, 04:49:49 PM
The performance in the first half was ok as has been said before.  Cavan were wasteful in front of goal and every time St Marys went forward they seemed to score.

Taking off Smith at half time seemed to mess things up.

And a college team has been going since late September so they should be sharper.  How many of the St Marys team were IC players?  A college team would be a good IC team.  Look at DCU last year.  From Cavan they had Cullivan, Flanagan, Johnson and Barry Tierney. 

It was a godawful night and a team (Cavan) that had a very new look.  Lets take the positives and go from there.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on January 22, 2010, 06:21:24 PM
Tthe McKenna Cup format is to blame...

http://www.herald.ie/opinion/columnists/frank-roche/carr-expresses-anger-as-colleges-call-shots-in-cup-2027134.html

Carr expresses anger as colleges call shots in cup

By Frank Roche
Friday January 22 2010

TOM CARR has slammed the current format of the pre-season provincial cups as a "disaster", claiming that third-level colleges have taken over the competitions.

The under-pressure boss saw his Cavan charges crash out of the McKenna Cup on Wednesday night, beaten by St Mary's College following Sunday's earlier defeat to Donegal.

squeezed

But he's furious at how inter-county teams are being squeezed because colleges have first call on their players, and believes county managers would be better off playing challenge matches instead.

"It has got to a ridiculous stage," Carr maintained. "There is a close season now between November and December, and then we come back on January 1 and you find that half your team are with their colleges. In effect, the preparation period for inter-county teams is getting smaller and smaller."

Cavan have been deprived "ten or 11" college-tied players, mostly forwards, and Carr doesn't have the depth of talent to absorb those losses.

OPINION

"It is only a few years ago that I was asked my opinion would I mind if the colleges entered these competitions, and I said that it was fine," he recalled.

"Then it was a case of if you were not using some of your players, could they play with the colleges? And that was fine.

"Now they are telling the counties what players they can have. They have actually taken over the competition."

- Frank Roche
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dougal on January 22, 2010, 07:32:02 PM
u21s have any games this weekend??
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on January 22, 2010, 08:12:27 PM
Quote from: Dougal on January 22, 2010, 07:32:02 PM
u21s have any games this weekend??
Don't know but I see the challenge against Roscommon last Sunday turned out to be a 13 a-side game against Longford. Your club-man scored 5 points from wing-forward including 4 in the first 6 minutes.
Anybody heading to Omagh?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on January 22, 2010, 10:13:37 PM
Quote from: Lawrence of Knockbride on January 22, 2010, 08:12:27 PM
Quote from: Dougal on January 22, 2010, 07:32:02 PM
u21s have any games this weekend??
Don't know but I see the challenge against Roscommon last Sunday turned out to be a 13 a-side game against Longford. Your club-man scored 5 points from wing-forward including 4 in the first 6 minutes.
Anybody heading to Omagh?

Actually hard to find fault with anything Carr says in that piece to be honest...

Jaysus help me but I'm half thinking of going...
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on January 22, 2010, 10:24:03 PM
Hopefully it will be better weather than Wednesday night.

If you go can you let us know how it went.

Did Thomas Corr play and how well did he do?

Anyone play well?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on January 22, 2010, 10:24:38 PM
Quote from: Lawrence of Knockbride on January 22, 2010, 10:20:07 AM
I don't think he has the making of a full-forward at IC level.

They mite have another option at Full-Forward after tonight.

On a positive note :o Yes Positive. Just back from Level One Coaching course tonight which was full up with over 40 and plenty of clubs represented. Was at a Coaching seminar also last nite in the Kilmore which had well over a hundred people from probably every club in Cavan. Small steps but hopefully sooner rather than later we can start to see results from the work the Games Development team are doing.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on January 22, 2010, 10:30:33 PM
Quote from: boojangles on January 22, 2010, 10:24:38 PM
Just back from Level One Coaching course tonight which was full up with over 40 and plenty of clubs represented. Was at a Coaching seminar also last nite in the Kilmore which had well over a hundred people from probably every club in Cavan. Small steps but hopefully sooner rather than later we can start to see results from the work the Games Development team are doing.

You following me around Boojangles??   ;D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on January 22, 2010, 11:02:07 PM
Quote from: Celt_Man on January 22, 2010, 10:30:33 PM
Quote from: boojangles on January 22, 2010, 10:24:38 PM
Just back from Level One Coaching course tonight which was full up with over 40 and plenty of clubs represented. Was at a Coaching seminar also last nite in the Kilmore which had well over a hundred people from probably every club in Cavan. Small steps but hopefully sooner rather than later we can start to see results from the work the Games Development team are doing.

You following me around Boojangles??   ;D

I'm actually busy stalking BH Man,didn't see him there tonight.One is enough thanks Celt Man.
I never noticed ya,must look closer in the morning :D

What ya think of that anyway?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: beer baron on January 22, 2010, 11:06:25 PM
Enough of the flirting lads
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on January 22, 2010, 11:14:40 PM
Quote from: beer baron on January 22, 2010, 11:06:25 PM
Enough of the flirting lads

Makes a change from shadow boxing with Drung.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on January 23, 2010, 12:36:29 AM
Quote from: boojangles on January 22, 2010, 11:02:07 PM
Quote from: Celt_Man on January 22, 2010, 10:30:33 PM
Quote from: boojangles on January 22, 2010, 10:24:38 PM
Just back from Level One Coaching course tonight which was full up with over 40 and plenty of clubs represented. Was at a Coaching seminar also last nite in the Kilmore which had well over a hundred people from probably every club in Cavan. Small steps but hopefully sooner rather than later we can start to see results from the work the Games Development team are doing.

You following me around Boojangles??   ;D

I'm actually busy stalking BH Man,didn't see him there tonight.One is enough thanks Celt Man.
I never noticed ya,must look closer in the morning :D

What ya think of that anyway?
Ahh stalking me wouldn't that much craic anyway... following me around while I'm stalking women - sure that's no craic at all

Aye was a good start to it, interesting to see what the craic will be tomorrow on the field... boots may have to be brought in from the shed and defrosted...
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dougal on January 23, 2010, 10:37:23 AM
Quote from: Lawrence of Knockbride on January 22, 2010, 08:12:27 PM
Quote from: Dougal on January 22, 2010, 07:32:02 PM
u21s have any games this weekend??
Don't know but I see the challenge against Roscommon last Sunday turned out to be a 13 a-side game against Longford. Your club-man scored 5 points from wing-forward including 4 in the first 6 minutes.
Anybody heading to Omagh?

who,reilly??

fortunately i wont be able to make it to omagh,if i was id be there,and id end up kicking myself for having to start on the beer late.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on January 23, 2010, 11:25:50 AM
Quote from: Dougal on January 23, 2010, 10:37:23 AM
Quote from: Lawrence of Knockbride on January 22, 2010, 08:12:27 PM
Quote from: Dougal on January 22, 2010, 07:32:02 PM
u21s have any games this weekend??
Don't know but I see the challenge against Roscommon last Sunday turned out to be a 13 a-side game against Longford. Your club-man scored 5 points from wing-forward including 4 in the first 6 minutes.
Anybody heading to Omagh?

who,reilly??

fortunately i wont be able to make it to omagh,if i was id be there,and id end up kicking myself for having to start on the beer late.
No, McKiernan.
Who you talking about at full-forward Boojangles?
Thomas Corr was playing and although he's reasonably tight he's not the solution to our problem is. Eoin Smith probably is but he's not playing for some reason.
I'm heading Celt Man. I'll be the lad applauding the Cavan scores. You should be able to spot me.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dougal on January 23, 2010, 11:37:56 AM
i was told last week that mckiernan was injured and wouldnt kick a ball for at least a month.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on January 23, 2010, 11:51:51 AM
Well he kicked at least one ball at least five times last week.  :)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dougal on January 23, 2010, 12:34:54 PM
just saw the report there.doesnt sound like a lad whos injured.says u21s are playing longford again on sat the 24,so is that today or tomorrow i wonder??

i hear a couple of clubs in cavan are entering the ulster club league,anyone know what clubs they are?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on January 23, 2010, 04:42:10 PM
Quote from: Dougal on January 23, 2010, 12:34:54 PM
just saw the report there.doesnt sound like a lad whos injured.says u21s are playing longford again on sat the 24,so is that today or tomorrow i wonder??

i hear a couple of clubs in cavan are entering the ulster club league,anyone know what clubs they are?

Castlerahan are one
Theres also an Ulster Intermediate club league,
im not sure if any are in that though,
Im sure with the later starts to the league now,More will try and join.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on January 23, 2010, 09:43:16 PM
Tyrone 2-17 Cavan 1-4

A great confidence boost heading into the league.

Am I the only one thing Carr has made a serious f**k up of pre season sending out a team with effectively no 1st team players. He talked shite about regional games and they never happened and so instead he used the McKenna Cup for trials with embarrassing results. What good will this result be to new players?

From BBC Sport (since Aertel still has the score at 0-2 each, the score after 15 minutes, 1 hour after the match finihsed)

The throw-in for Tyrone's game against Cavan was delayed by 30 minutes because of fog at Healy Park.
Tyrone led by 1-8 to 0-3 at half-time, thanks to Donnelly's 33rd-minute goal and two points each from Niall McKenna and Eoin McCusker.
Donnelly added a second goal 15 minutes from the end as the Red Hands, with five members of the 2008 All-Ireland winning team on duty, ran out comfortable winners, despite Clarke's late goal.
Mattie Donnelly (0-3) and Peter Harte joined McKenna in the Tyrone half-forward line.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on January 24, 2010, 02:34:35 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on January 23, 2010, 09:43:16 PM
Tyrone 2-17 Cavan 1-4

A great confidence boost heading into the league.

Am I the only one thing Carr has made a serious f**k up of pre season sending out a team with effectively no 1st team players. He talked shite about regional games and they never happened and so instead he used the McKenna Cup for trials with embarrassing results. What good will this result be to new players?

From BBC Sport (since Aertel still has the score at 0-2 each, the score after 15 minutes, 1 hour after the match finihsed)

The throw-in for Tyrone's game against Cavan was delayed by 30 minutes because of fog at Healy Park.
Tyrone led by 1-8 to 0-3 at half-time, thanks to Donnelly's 33rd-minute goal and two points each from Niall McKenna and Eoin McCusker.
Donnelly added a second goal 15 minutes from the end as the Red Hands, with five members of the 2008 All-Ireland winning team on duty, ran out comfortable winners, despite Clarke's late goal.
Mattie Donnelly (0-3) and Peter Harte joined McKenna in the Tyrone half-forward line.
Myles I agree that the preparation of the panel was poor but he has most of last year's panel this year that's available to him but the colleges set-up has crippled us. Apart from Galligan and Lyng everybody else available was used.
I was at the game and in the second half it was pretty embaressing. One good point was Conor Smith who won a lot of ball but had no support as we basically were playing in our own half. Sean Brady was very poor at full-forward and will be lucky to stay on the panel in my opinion.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tierworker blue on January 24, 2010, 10:13:49 PM
Could'nt travel meself...did'nt sound pretty.
On a totally different subject, I heard that the great Mick Higgins passed away last night. It was told to me as a 'rumour' though...anyone have any better info on whether it's true or not?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on January 24, 2010, 10:46:59 PM
Quote from: tierworker blue on January 24, 2010, 10:13:49 PM
Could'nt travel meself...did'nt sound pretty.
On a totally different subject, I heard that the great Mick Higgins passed away last night. It was told to me as a 'rumour' though...anyone have any better info on whether it's true or not?

I really hope that is not true. I have been reading quite a bit on Mick Higgins of late in one book or another and it would be very sad to hear the last surviving member of the polo grounds team had died. I'll say no more until we know some more.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tierworker blue on January 24, 2010, 11:11:27 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on January 24, 2010, 10:46:59 PM
Quote from: tierworker blue on January 24, 2010, 10:13:49 PM
Could'nt travel meself...did'nt sound pretty.
On a totally different subject, I heard that the great Mick Higgins passed away last night. It was told to me as a 'rumour' though...anyone have any better info on whether it's true or not?

I really hope that is not true. I have been quiet a bit on Mick Higgins of late in one book or another and it would be very sad to hear the last surviving member of the polo grounds team had died. I'll say no more until we know some more.

Hopefully there's no truth to it. I'll put some other feelers out...
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on January 25, 2010, 11:56:50 AM
Quote from: tierworker blue on January 24, 2010, 11:11:27 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on January 24, 2010, 10:46:59 PM
Quote from: tierworker blue on January 24, 2010, 10:13:49 PM
Could'nt travel meself...did'nt sound pretty.
On a totally different subject, I heard that the great Mick Higgins passed away last night. It was told to me as a 'rumour' though...anyone have any better info on whether it's true or not?

I really hope that is not true. I have been quiet a bit on Mick Higgins of late in one book or another and it would be very sad to hear the last surviving member of the polo grounds team had died. I'll say no more until we know some more.

Hopefully there's no truth to it. I'll put some other feelers out...

I know that he was quite poor last week. Didnt hear anything since.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dougal on January 25, 2010, 06:20:28 PM
there was a rumour going round,but as of sat nite it was untrue.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: North Longford on January 26, 2010, 12:02:57 PM
Went to the U21 game on Saturday. Serious fog and didn't know any of the Cavan lads. Think Rory Dunne might have been full back and Givney midfield just going on the chat beside me.
Givney was very good as was his midfield partner. Longford had to change there 2 midfielders after 20 minutes. They brought on what would be there normal midfielder at half time and it evened things up a bit. Cavans 2 lads were very mobile as well as being good in the air.
Despite the 13 to 2 scorline the game was a good bit closer possession wise just Cavan were much more clinical up front and when the chances presented themselves they generally took them. Dunne struggled a bit at full back. Believe it or not the Longford full forward missed 4 1 on 1's with the keeper, 3 were saved and one wide. The keeper actually saved a 5th 1 on 1 and seemed to be a very good shot stopper. Smallish guy though.
As I say not sure how near to full strength Cavan were. Longford wouldn't have been full strength but would have a good few of the lads that would be starting. Had a few brainless bucks which didn't help there cause. Why pass the ball 20 yards to a team mate when you can kick it to the opposition 50 yards away!!!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on January 26, 2010, 12:23:04 PM
Quote from: North Longford on January 26, 2010, 12:02:57 PM
Went to the U21 game on Saturday. Serious fog and didn't know any of the Cavan lads. Think Rory Dunne might have been full back and Givney midfield just going on the chat beside me.
Givney was very good as was his midfield partner. Longford had to change there 2 midfielders after 20 minutes. They brought on what would be there normal midfielder at half time and it evened things up a bit. Cavans 2 lads were very mobile as well as being good in the air.
Despite the 13 to 2 scorline the game was a good bit closer possession wise just Cavan were much more clinical up front and when the chances presented themselves they generally took them. Dunne struggled a bit at full back. Believe it or not the Longford full forward missed 4 1 on 1's with the keeper, 3 were saved and one wide. The keeper actually saved a 5th 1 on 1 and seemed to be a very good shot stopper. Smallish guy though.
As I say not sure how near to full strength Cavan were. Longford wouldn't have been full strength but would have a good few of the lads that would be starting. Had a few brainless bucks which didn't help there cause. Why pass the ball 20 yards to a team mate when you can kick it to the opposition 50 yards away!!!
Thanks for that NL
not good to hear about the problems at full back on the under 21's aswell.
Good to hear the midfield played well.
wonder was it Gearoid McKiernan/Tomas Reily alongside him there?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: North Longford on January 26, 2010, 12:33:00 PM
Not sure about the midfielders. The centre forward was a big guy. Very blonde hair and did quite well too. Could have been Declan something. Got himself sent off in the middle of the second half very stupidly though. 2 Yellows in a minute both deserved.
Very fast game. Think the pitch has something to do with that. No bad bounces there. One of the Cavan corner backs was very impressive. Wasn't even sure who the Longford corner forward was but the corner back was very sticky and got a hand in an awful lot.. Wing backs like to bomb forward and support the play a lot too. Daniel something was one of them I think.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on January 26, 2010, 12:38:45 PM
Quote from: North Longford on January 26, 2010, 12:33:00 PM
Not sure about the midfielders. The centre forward was a big guy. Very blonde hair and did quite well too. Could have been Declan something. Got himself sent off in the middle of the second half very stupidly though. 2 Yellows in a minute both deserved.
Very fast game. Think the pitch has something to do with that. No bad bounces there. One of the Cavan corner backs was very impressive. Wasn't even sure who the Longford corner forward was but the corner back was very sticky and got a hand in an awful lot.. Wing backs like to bomb forward and support the play a lot too. Daniel something was one of them I think.
Declan McKiernan,Dougal and Myles,clubmate,big strong lad with all the skills would have been the centre forward.
corner back could have been Damien Barkey of Ramor who is highly rated within the county,not sure.
Thanks of the info anyway NL.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on January 26, 2010, 01:47:41 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on January 26, 2010, 12:38:45 PM
Quote from: North Longford on January 26, 2010, 12:33:00 PM
Not sure about the midfielders. The centre forward was a big guy. Very blonde hair and did quite well too. Could have been Declan something. Got himself sent off in the middle of the second half very stupidly though. 2 Yellows in a minute both deserved.
Very fast game. Think the pitch has something to do with that. No bad bounces there. One of the Cavan corner backs was very impressive. Wasn't even sure who the Longford corner forward was but the corner back was very sticky and got a hand in an awful lot.. Wing backs like to bomb forward and support the play a lot too. Daniel something was one of them I think.
Declan McKiernan,Dougal and Myles,clubmate,big strong lad with all the skills would have been the centre forward.
corner back could have been Damien Barkey of Ramor who is highly rated within the county,not sure.
Thanks of the info anyway NL.

Not like Declan to be stupidly sent off ::)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dougal on January 26, 2010, 02:47:00 PM
when i saw declan,thought it might of been the gaels lad,then saw he got sent off,be a safe bet it was mckiernan.thomas reilly wasnt playing from what i heard.would of thought givney wouldnt of been playing either,him having a game with sligo the next day.do they have any games this weekend??

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: handballer09 on January 26, 2010, 03:11:47 PM
Report here lads

http://www.anglocelt.ie/sport/matchreports/articles/2010/01/26/3994289-cavan-reach-hastings-cup-final/
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dougal on January 27, 2010, 07:28:11 PM
first round of the league starting first weekend in april.hopefully il be able to get my hands on the master fixture list tomorrow.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on January 28, 2010, 10:54:36 AM
So extra games and a late start. Anyone reckon we'll have another re-think on our league structure this time next year?
When's the next Hastings cup game on?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: jimjim on January 28, 2010, 01:53:51 PM
Cavan take on Roscommon in the Under 21 Hastings Cup final at Michael Fay Park, Longford this Saturday, January 30, at the Longford Slashers club grounds, where throw-in has been scheduled for 2.30pm.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on January 28, 2010, 02:11:00 PM
Lads just checked teletext on BBC there at lunchtime,its reporting Mick Higgins has passed away???
I know there has been rumours,so anyone know if its true?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on January 28, 2010, 02:19:38 PM
its on BBC news on web.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/northern_ireland/8485296.stm

Cavan GAA legend Mick Higgins dies at the age of 87 

Mick Higgins won three All-Ireland senior football medals
Cavan's 1952 All Ireland winning captain Mick Higgins has died at the age of 87.

The Cavan great won three All Ireland medals, including one from the famous Polo Grounds final in 1947 when the Breffni Blues beat Kerry in New York.

Higgins, whose other All-Ireland win came in 1948, was the last surviving member of the Cavan side of 1947.

He was born in New York and returned to his mother's home town of Kilnaleck in county Cavan at five years of age.

Higgins played in his first Ulster Championship match against Monaghan in 1943 and he clinched his first senior provincial medal in the same year.

Four years later, the Cavan team flew to New York via the Azores for the historic battle for Sam Maguire against the Kingdom.

The game was played in New York to honour the memory of the Irish abroad on the centenary of the height of the Irish famine.

The Cavan team travelled by air and while the trip took 30 hours, it was a lot shorter duration than the Kerry squad's journey to the US by Ocean Liner.

"There was no huge send-off for us in Cavan, but both teams got a good reception in New York when we arrived," recalled Higgins in an interview last year.

"I remember the team stayed in the Commodore Hotel, but I stayed with my relatives."

Around 30,000 spectators watched the game and Higgins recalled the "oppressive heat" at the Polo Grounds.

Higgins and his teammates returned home to a heroes' welcome after a voyage aboard the Queen Mary.

"It was only after we arrived in Southampton that we realised the joy of it all," recalled Higgins.

"Large numbers of Cavan people turned up to see us in London and Birmingham. We were treated like kings in Cavan."

After retaining the title in 1948 by defeating Mayo, Cavan aimed for a three-in-a-row a year later but they were beaten by Meath in the decider.

However, Cavan, skippered by Higgins, got revenge over their neighbours three years later in the All-Ireland decider.

Cavan haven't appeared in an All-Ireland senior final since 1952.

He continued his involvement in the GAA after his playing days and his other great sporting passion was greyhound racing, where he became a successful trainer.



Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cornafean on January 28, 2010, 02:58:12 PM
This is sad news. When someone dies, it is often said that their passing represents the end of an era. In Mick Higgins' case, this is especially true.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on January 28, 2010, 03:46:59 PM
It was a story we all knew was coming but hoped it would not. RIP Mick Higgins. Take some time to read of his achievements from player to manager to referee, its quite amazing. Another legend passes on.

Edit: I think Mick Higgins is more than worthy of his own thread on the main GAA section which i have just started.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on January 28, 2010, 04:35:29 PM
So it is true
RIP to a true legend of our sport and an iconic figure in Cavan football.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on January 28, 2010, 07:15:03 PM
RIP to one of the true greats. As Cornafean mentions his passing represents the end of an era. Arguably the best Centre-half forward the game has ever known. As one of the true legends of football in Cavan and Ireland, at least his memory will live on.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on January 28, 2010, 11:16:02 PM
In case anybody was thinking of travelling, the Christopher Sheils Memorial Tournament has been postponed this weekend for obvious reasons. I wouldn't be suprised if the Hastings Cup match was off too.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on January 28, 2010, 11:50:10 PM
RIP Mick...

Another one of the greats gone and that's for sure
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on January 28, 2010, 11:51:18 PM
Quote from: boojangles on January 28, 2010, 11:16:02 PM
In case anybody was thinking of travelling, the Christopher Sheils Memorial Tournament has been postponed this weekend for obvious reasons. I wouldn't be suprised if the Hastings Cup match was off too.

Actually Boojangles it's just Friday and Saturday which is postponed till next weekend and this Sunday's fixtures will go ahead as planned
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: sheelinside on January 29, 2010, 05:22:39 AM
RIP Mick Higgins, a true legend. if even half the stories i've heard about him are true, he indeed must have been a special player

re the hastings final,  is that the roscommon team which won minor title a few years ago or am i getting my years totally mixed up?

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dougal on January 29, 2010, 08:43:24 AM
RIP Mick,never realised just how much he achieved in his life time.

roscommon won minor in 06 so that would be last years U21?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dougal on January 29, 2010, 06:05:14 PM
anyone want the club master fixture list can PM me and il send it on,it's just quite big to post here.let me know if you want all divisions or just one.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tierworker blue on January 29, 2010, 07:15:30 PM
RIP Mick.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on January 30, 2010, 08:59:24 PM
Any word on the Under 21 final??
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dougal on January 30, 2010, 09:01:51 PM
lost by 5 i think.1-12 to 1-10,or around that.donnie shine must of scored about 1-8 if not all of roscommons points.seniors had a challenge game against longford before it.they seemed to be decent enough,a few scores from middling distances.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: whats my name on January 31, 2010, 09:46:55 AM
the u-21s lost by five played poor but still could have won it hit the post and the keeper made 2 good saves in the last five mins when cavan were down by 3 points. donal shine played very well and the cavan full back line couldnt get to grips with his height and speed. givney was the best of a bad lot fielded a nice few kickouts and got himself a point. cavan were missing players like eugene keating and rory dunne which might have swung the game for us in the last few mins
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: jimjim on February 02, 2010, 11:46:40 AM
Cavan NFL panel: Paul Brady (Mullahoran), M Brennan (Simonstown), N Madden (Gowna), Cian Mackey (Castlerahan), Martin Reilly (Killygarry), David Givney (Mountnugent), Conor Smith (Cuchullains), Michael Brides (St Oliver Plunkett's), Eoin McPhilips (Denn), Eoin Smith (Killygarry), Martin Cahill (Denn), Tomas Corr (Denn), Dermot Sheridan (Mullahoran), Sean Johnston (Cavan Gaels), John McCutcheon (Cootehill), Darren Murphy (Drumlane), Mark McKeever (Gowna), Mark Johnston (Cornafean), Ray Galligan (Lacken), Alan Clarke (Kingscourt), Ronan Flanagan (Castlerahan), Ciaran Galligan (Drung), Michael Lyng (Cavan Gaels), Dane O'Dowd (Drumlane), Eoin McGuigan (Belturbet), Ray Cullivan (Ballyhaise), Fintan Reilly (Redhills), Gareth Smith (Oliver Plunkett's), Lorcan Mulvey (Butlersbridge), Eddie O'Reilly (Mullahoran), Nicholas Walsh (Cavan Gaels).

Good to see Brennan back for Cavan, going on talk last yr he was very good at ff for simonstown or is he in there for an answer to midfields call?? Big addition to Drumalee also for the yr ahead. Any big Absenteeism's from the panel??

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Babe Ruth 47 on February 02, 2010, 12:04:22 PM
This panel has finally marked the end of the '97 crew! A lot of young blood in there. Looks lightweight though in my opinion
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on February 02, 2010, 12:24:59 PM
They are looking at Brennan for the Full-Forward line.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on February 02, 2010, 01:35:55 PM
Right I have my McKenna cup programme out and comparing the two lists it seems the off the newcomers the following have been kept and dropped repectively:
Kept: Madden,Conor Smith, Eoin McPhilips, Tomas Corr, Darren Murphy, Mark Johnston, Alan Clarke, Dane O'Dowd, Eoin McGuigan, Gareth Smith,
Dropped: John Cunningham, Alan Durkin, Stephen Jordan, Joey Jordan, Donal Thomas, John McCabe, Declan Reilly, Killian Lynch.
Before I pull my hair out let me say that I agree that, unfortunately, the last 3 on the dropped list just aren't good enough/didn't perform in the McKenna Cup.
Now.......John Cunningham got 10 minutes, Stephen Jordan go 0 minutes, Joey Jordan got one game at CB when he should've been tried at CB but wasn't too bad in the position he did play. Donal Thomas was played at FF despite being MF for Killygarry and Alan Drukin played well IMO against St.Mary's.
Additionally I see Sean Brady is left out which has been a long time coming.
Now to the kept list...............Niall Madden was as poor as anyone and got plenty of game time. Conor Smith stood out against Tyrone and I suppose I can't argue with his inclusion although I personally don't think he's up to it. Eoin McPhillips deserves to be kept in. Tomas Corr could be good but not at FB but no doubt TC will persevere with his square peg in round hole approach. Hard to tell on Darren Murphy but we obviously need a second keeper. Mark Johnston - see Niall Madden, Alan Clarke - see Niall Madden, Dane O'Dowd - see Niall Madden. Eoin McGuigan looks to have plenty in him but not at MF.
And then we have Lorcan and Eddie.
I hate been critical of new players but the selection is baffling. Anyone that saw the 3 games agree?
Good to see Brennan back alright. I thought McElkennon fucked him over after the Waterford defeat a few years back. Is he really back with Drumalee? Why is that?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on February 02, 2010, 03:13:02 PM
Happy to see Michael Brennan back for Cavan,
Not happy to see Michael Brennan back playing for Drumalee  :P

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on February 02, 2010, 03:17:50 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on February 02, 2010, 03:13:02 PM
Happy to see Michael Brennan back for Cavan,
Not happy to see Michael Brennan back playing for Drumalee  :P

Same as...

I saw our first four league games this year - Drumalee, Ballyhaise, Goonies and Gaels...  Four bankers if ever there was...  :D :D :D :D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on February 02, 2010, 03:35:06 PM
This continuing fascination with Lorcan Mulvey always baffles me I must say. He could be a useful addition if he ever got anything near to something resembling full fitness, but every year he gets a chance, doesn't take it, gets dispensed with and then recalled.  ???
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on February 02, 2010, 03:58:35 PM
Quote from: cavanmaniac on February 02, 2010, 03:35:06 PM
This continuing fascination with Lorcan Mulvey always baffles me I must say. He could be a useful addition if he ever got anything near to something resembling full fitness, but every year he gets a chance, doesn't take it, gets dispensed with and then recalled.  ???

To be fair he didnt get a chance last year against Antrim when we were destroyed at Midfield Maniac.
He was also in better shape last year than hes ever been in.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on February 02, 2010, 04:02:02 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on February 02, 2010, 03:58:35 PM
Quote from: cavanmaniac on February 02, 2010, 03:35:06 PM
This continuing fascination with Lorcan Mulvey always baffles me I must say. He could be a useful addition if he ever got anything near to something resembling full fitness, but every year he gets a chance, doesn't take it, gets dispensed with and then recalled.  ???

To be fair he didnt get a chance last year against Antrim when we were destroyed at Midfield Maniac.
He was also in better shape last year than hes ever been in.

Physically perhaps ;)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on February 02, 2010, 05:14:54 PM
Quote from: Lawrence of Knockbride on February 02, 2010, 04:02:02 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on February 02, 2010, 03:58:35 PM
Quote from: cavanmaniac on February 02, 2010, 03:35:06 PM
This continuing fascination with Lorcan Mulvey always baffles me I must say. He could be a useful addition if he ever got anything near to something resembling full fitness, but every year he gets a chance, doesn't take it, gets dispensed with and then recalled.  ???

To be fair he didnt get a chance last year against Antrim when we were destroyed at Midfield Maniac.
He was also in better shape last year than hes ever been in.

Physically perhaps ;)


Don't you start now :D :D ;)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: beer baron on February 02, 2010, 05:25:54 PM
Are you sure brennans back with drumalee lads?he's been trainin with simonstown the past few weeks?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on February 02, 2010, 05:33:12 PM
Quote from: boojangles on February 02, 2010, 05:14:54 PM
Quote from: Lawrence of Knockbride on February 02, 2010, 04:02:02 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on February 02, 2010, 03:58:35 PM
Quote from: cavanmaniac on February 02, 2010, 03:35:06 PM
This continuing fascination with Lorcan Mulvey always baffles me I must say. He could be a useful addition if he ever got anything near to something resembling full fitness, but every year he gets a chance, doesn't take it, gets dispensed with and then recalled.  ???

To be fair he didnt get a chance last year against Antrim when we were destroyed at Midfield Maniac.
He was also in better shape last year than hes ever been in.

Physically perhaps ;)


Don't you start now :D :D ;)
Sorry, sorry....
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Western Blue on February 02, 2010, 05:45:09 PM
Where is Michael Hannon's name is he dropped from the N.L. Squad ??
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dougal on February 02, 2010, 05:55:28 PM
Quote from: Western Blue on February 02, 2010, 05:45:09 PM
Where is Michael Hannon's name is he dropped from the N.L. Squad ??

with any luck he is.not up to county standard.

did terry hyland get what ciaran brady wanted,with the exception of givney?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on February 02, 2010, 05:56:30 PM
Not so sure Dougal. He had a poor year last year but who are we replacing him with. I assumed he was in there WB but you're right, he's not. Any other omissions?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dougal on February 02, 2010, 06:12:00 PM
Quote from: Lawrence of Knockbride on February 02, 2010, 05:56:30 PM
Not so sure Dougal. He had a poor year last year but who are we replacing him with. I assumed he was in there WB but you're right, he's not. Any other omissions?

you RHF?or is there some plagerism going on on HS?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on February 02, 2010, 06:14:44 PM
Quote from: Dougal on February 02, 2010, 06:12:00 PM
Quote from: Lawrence of Knockbride on February 02, 2010, 05:56:30 PM
Not so sure Dougal. He had a poor year last year but who are we replacing him with. I assumed he was in there WB but you're right, he's not. Any other omissions?

you RHF?or is there some plagerism going on on HS?
I don't follow I'm afraid???????????
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dougal on February 02, 2010, 06:21:47 PM
from hogan stand


RHF
County: Cavan
Posts: 78

549498   
Right I have my McKenna cup programme out and comparing the two lists it seems the off the newcomers the following have been kept and dropped repectively:
Kept: Madden,Conor Smith, Eoin McPhilips, Tomas Corr, Darren Murphy, Mark Johnston, Alan Clarke, Dane O'Dowd, Eoin McGuigan, Gareth Smith,
Dropped: John Cunningham, Alan Durkin, Stephen Jordan, Joey Jordan, Donal Thomas, John McCabe, Declan Reilly, Killian Lynch.
Before I pull my hair out let me say that I agree that, unfortunately, the last 3 on the dropped list just aren't good enough/didn't perform in the McKenna Cup.
Now.......John Cunningham got 10 minutes, Stephen Jordan go 0 minutes, Joey Jordan got one game at CB when he should've been tried at CB but wasn't too bad in the position he did play. Donal Thomas was played at FF despite being MF for Killygarry and Alan Drukin played well IMO against St.Mary's.
Additionally I see Sean Brady is left out which has been a long time coming.
Now to the kept list...............Niall Madden was as poor as anyone and got plenty of game time. Conor Smith stood out against Tyrone and I suppose I can't argue with his inclusion although I personally don't think he's up to it. Eoin McPhillips deserves to be kept in. Tomas Corr could be good but not at FB but no doubt TC will persevere with his square peg in round hole approach. Hard to tell on Darren Murphy but we obviously need a second keeper. Mark Johnston - see Niall Madden, Alan Clarke - see Niall Madden, Dane O'Dowd - see Niall Madden. Eoin McGuigan looks to have plenty in him but not at MF.
And then we have Lorcan and Eddie.
I hate been critical of new players but the selection is baffling. Anyone that saw the 3 games agree?
Good to see Brennan back alright. I thought McElkennon messed him over after the Waterford defeat a few years back. Is he really back with Drumalee? Why is that?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on February 02, 2010, 06:26:40 PM
Quote from: Dougal on February 02, 2010, 06:12:00 PM
Quote from: Lawrence of Knockbride on February 02, 2010, 05:56:30 PM
Not so sure Dougal. He had a poor year last year but who are we replacing him with. I assumed he was in there WB but you're right, he's not. Any other omissions?

you RHF?or is there some plagerism going on on HS?

Aye I was wondering about that too...

(very slow day that I'm checking the message boards on Hoganstand)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on February 02, 2010, 07:14:55 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on February 02, 2010, 03:58:35 PM
Quote from: cavanmaniac on February 02, 2010, 03:35:06 PM
This continuing fascination with Lorcan Mulvey always baffles me I must say. He could be a useful addition if he ever got anything near to something resembling full fitness, but every year he gets a chance, doesn't take it, gets dispensed with and then recalled.  ???

To be fair he didnt get a chance last year against Antrim when we were destroyed at Midfield Maniac.
He was also in better shape last year than hes ever been in.

Fair point, but he's had plenty of others I think. I'll never forget the embarrassment of the TV commentators remarking on how some of our lads were blowing hard with twenty minutes to go in a live championship game a few years ago, during the Keogan era v Down I reckon.  :-[
But if he's fit and committed he's as worthy of a place as anyone else, so let him at it I suppose, I just hope the pattern doesn't recur.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on February 02, 2010, 07:18:55 PM
In defence of Mulvey (what am I doing??) he is not the most mobile of lads but he is big and strong. He would need someone to do the running for him. Previously Keogan had him in the middle with Walsh or McCabe so pretty much any mobile midfield could run the legs of them. Maybe if Ciaran Galligan was there to run he wouldn't be too bad of an option. Now getting him to stop sticking out his chest and making an eejit of himself is another thing.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on February 02, 2010, 08:19:15 PM
Quote from: Dougal on February 02, 2010, 06:21:47 PM
from hogan stand


RHF
County: Cavan
Posts: 78

549498   
Right I have my McKenna cup programme out and comparing the two lists it seems the off the newcomers the following have been kept and dropped repectively:
Kept: Madden,Conor Smith, Eoin McPhilips, Tomas Corr, Darren Murphy, Mark Johnston, Alan Clarke, Dane O'Dowd, Eoin McGuigan, Gareth Smith,
Dropped: John Cunningham, Alan Durkin, Stephen Jordan, Joey Jordan, Donal Thomas, John McCabe, Declan Reilly, Killian Lynch.
Before I pull my hair out let me say that I agree that, unfortunately, the last 3 on the dropped list just aren't good enough/didn't perform in the McKenna Cup.
Now.......John Cunningham got 10 minutes, Stephen Jordan go 0 minutes, Joey Jordan got one game at CB when he should've been tried at CB but wasn't too bad in the position he did play. Donal Thomas was played at FF despite being MF for Killygarry and Alan Drukin played well IMO against St.Mary's.
Additionally I see Sean Brady is left out which has been a long time coming.
Now to the kept list...............Niall Madden was as poor as anyone and got plenty of game time. Conor Smith stood out against Tyrone and I suppose I can't argue with his inclusion although I personally don't think he's up to it. Eoin McPhillips deserves to be kept in. Tomas Corr could be good but not at FB but no doubt TC will persevere with his square peg in round hole approach. Hard to tell on Darren Murphy but we obviously need a second keeper. Mark Johnston - see Niall Madden, Alan Clarke - see Niall Madden, Dane O'Dowd - see Niall Madden. Eoin McGuigan looks to have plenty in him but not at MF.
And then we have Lorcan and Eddie.
I hate been critical of new players but the selection is baffling. Anyone that saw the 3 games agree?
Good to see Brennan back alright. I thought McElkennon messed him over after the Waterford defeat a few years back. Is he really back with Drumalee? Why is that?
WTF? Well obviously someone (not me) copied and pasted. I feel vioalted. Now I know some of the lads on hoganstand don't have the best grammer but why would you want to post someone else's opinion? Somebody with an account go on and sort that out.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on February 02, 2010, 08:33:59 PM
Quote from: Lawrence of Knockbride on February 02, 2010, 08:19:15 PM
Quote from: Dougal on February 02, 2010, 06:21:47 PM
from hogan stand


RHF
County: Cavan
Posts: 78

549498   
Right I have my McKenna cup programme out and comparing the two lists it seems the off the newcomers the following have been kept and dropped repectively:
Kept: Madden,Conor Smith, Eoin McPhilips, Tomas Corr, Darren Murphy, Mark Johnston, Alan Clarke, Dane O'Dowd, Eoin McGuigan, Gareth Smith,
Dropped: John Cunningham, Alan Durkin, Stephen Jordan, Joey Jordan, Donal Thomas, John McCabe, Declan Reilly, Killian Lynch.
Before I pull my hair out let me say that I agree that, unfortunately, the last 3 on the dropped list just aren't good enough/didn't perform in the McKenna Cup.
Now.......John Cunningham got 10 minutes, Stephen Jordan go 0 minutes, Joey Jordan got one game at CB when he should've been tried at CB but wasn't too bad in the position he did play. Donal Thomas was played at FF despite being MF for Killygarry and Alan Drukin played well IMO against St.Mary's.
Additionally I see Sean Brady is left out which has been a long time coming.
Now to the kept list...............Niall Madden was as poor as anyone and got plenty of game time. Conor Smith stood out against Tyrone and I suppose I can't argue with his inclusion although I personally don't think he's up to it. Eoin McPhillips deserves to be kept in. Tomas Corr could be good but not at FB but no doubt TC will persevere with his square peg in round hole approach. Hard to tell on Darren Murphy but we obviously need a second keeper. Mark Johnston - see Niall Madden, Alan Clarke - see Niall Madden, Dane O'Dowd - see Niall Madden. Eoin McGuigan looks to have plenty in him but not at MF.
And then we have Lorcan and Eddie.
I hate been critical of new players but the selection is baffling. Anyone that saw the 3 games agree?
Good to see Brennan back alright. I thought McElkennon messed him over after the Waterford defeat a few years back. Is he really back with Drumalee? Why is that?
WTF? Well obviously someone (not me) copied and pasted. I feel vioalted. Now I know some of the lads on hoganstand don't have the best grammer but why would you want to post someone else's opinion? Somebody with an account go on and sort that out.

And normally you have to hand over good money to feel like that...

Some joke alright... very sad
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on February 02, 2010, 08:42:10 PM
And I just noticed all the spelling mistakes they made. Oh wait............. ;D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on February 02, 2010, 08:44:19 PM
Quote from: Lawrence of Knockbride on February 02, 2010, 08:42:10 PM
And I just noticed all the spelling mistakes they made. Oh wait............. ;D

They probably wrote that they borrowed the post from Lawrence of Knockbride on the superior Gaaboard and that bit got censored. Hoganstand is a bit like China, you can say what you like as long as it not critical of the powerful mods.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: beer baron on February 02, 2010, 09:11:45 PM
Hardly notions of  upperosity on here folks!? :D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on February 02, 2010, 09:41:34 PM
Quote from: beer baron on February 02, 2010, 09:11:45 PM
Hardly notions of  upperosity on here folks!? :D
I've just had my upperosity and I'm off to bed.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on February 02, 2010, 11:50:25 PM
Quote from: Dougal on February 02, 2010, 05:55:28 PM
Quote from: Western Blue on February 02, 2010, 05:45:09 PM
Where is Michael Hannon's name is he dropped from the N.L. Squad ??

with any luck he is.not up to county standard.

did terry hyland get what ciaran brady wanted,with the exception of givney?

Breaking my New Years resolution temporarily here but can't let it pass.
I'l be the first to admit that Michael Hannon has probably stood still as a footballer in the last few years but to say he is not County standard is madness. If he is not,then there aren't too many named that are. For a good few years he was without doubt our best defender bar nobody. It is up to TC to get him back playing to the very high standards he is capable of. This isn't a case of persisting with a lad who has never shown his potential at IC level, like is being done with a few others. Michael Hannon has and hopefully he will again. He is back on the panel,Jim Jims list left him out.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on February 03, 2010, 11:14:12 AM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on February 02, 2010, 07:18:55 PM
Now getting him to stop sticking out his chest and making an eejit of himself is another thing.

;D Paul O'Connell wears Lorcan Mulvey pyjamas!!!!  ;D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: beer baron on February 03, 2010, 12:02:37 PM
Still can't understand how darren smith or joey haven't got a fair throw of the dice imho
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on February 03, 2010, 03:28:38 PM
Quote from: beer baron on February 03, 2010, 12:02:37 PM
Still can't understand how darren smith or joey haven't got a fair throw of the dice imho
or how probably the best player in the intermediate in 2009 Stephen Jordan got 0 minutes playing time in McKenna Cup ::)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on February 03, 2010, 05:47:20 PM
Deja Vu.  Again.

From Hoganstand.

Lyng in the wars again


03 February 2010


It's a familiar story for luckless Cavan footballer Micheal Lyng, who's injured again.

The brilliant Cavan Gaels clubman's career has been blighted by one setback after another and the playmaker is now expected to miss the NFL opener against Roscommon with a hamstring injury.

Having sustained the injury helping DCU to victory over Meath in last Sunday's O'Byrne Cup semi-final at Navan, Lyng is unlikely to feature at Hyde Park this Sunday.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dougal on February 03, 2010, 06:39:43 PM
ye im being quite harsh on him,i just hate him when he plays for the goonies,pointless solo runs,and keeps going till he loses the ball.the most irritating player in cavan.

when was the last time lyng played a competitive match for the county?he didnt play at all last year,did he?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on February 03, 2010, 06:50:33 PM
Heard Lyng got dropped from the DCU panel because he is so injury-prone. Don't think we will ever see the best of him in a Cavan shirt.

Yeah in fairness to Hannon, although he has struggled for form in recent times, he has shown in the past what he can do and he definetly deserves to be in there. A few inclusions in the squad I do find hard to understand, like Eddie. How many chances does a man need to prove he is not up to IC standard?? Though I do love him deep down ;D

Conor Smith barely deserves his place with the u21's on his current form and Niall Madden, Darren Murphy and O'Dowd just aren't up too it in my opinion.

Also noticed Chesty has opted out and really can't understand why Darren Smith wasn't given a chance at Full-back. Anyone else notice, that only two under 21's made the squad. Maybe Hyland got what Brady wanted. No Gearoid McKiernan, no Rory Dunne (his own choice) and no Keating think ???

Be interesting to see the team at the weekend. I doubt it will change that much from the one which played Longford last weekend.

DCU won today. Johnston, Sheridan and Fla started. Cullivan came on. Think SJ may have went off injured though which I am sure will worry TC. Saw Pat Gilroy, Eamon O'Brien, Seamus McEnaney and Luke Dempsey there....no sign of our man anyway :P
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dougal on February 03, 2010, 07:17:07 PM
what was the team against lonford?
fintan
? ? ?
flanagan ? ?
galligan mcguigan
lyng mackey ?
johnston brennan ?

sheridan in the backs aswel?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on February 03, 2010, 07:27:10 PM
I'd say there could be a few U-21s in before the league is over, if any of them have any interest in going in. Gearoid McKiernan was named on the McKenna Cup panel but didn't play and Bud Fitz played and played well although that seems to count for little. Keating is a strange one.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on February 03, 2010, 07:31:40 PM
Sorry it was

Fintan

McPhillips Corr Sheridan

Clarke McCutcheon Podge

McGuigan Gallo

Mackey Nesty Flanagan

Jelly Ray Galligan Martin

I would say Cahill and McKeever will play if they are fit. Hannon is only back from injury so doubt he will feature. Think between our goalie and that back line a fair bit might be conceded....
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on February 03, 2010, 07:35:51 PM
Quote from: Lawrence of Knockbride on February 03, 2010, 07:27:10 PM
I'd say there could be a few U-21s in before the league is over, if any of them have any interest in going in. Gearoid McKiernan was named on the McKenna Cup panel but didn't play and Bud Fitz played and played well although that seems to count for little. Keating is a strange one.

Drama seems to follow Keating alright.

I'm glad the 21's were left off it. In my opinion you should have to prove yourself at your own age-group before you get the senior call-up. We will see what the young men are made of in March.

Who do you think ,of the u21's, would push for a start with the senior team?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on February 03, 2010, 08:19:04 PM
Quote from: put-it-up on February 03, 2010, 07:35:51 PM
Quote from: Lawrence of Knockbride on February 03, 2010, 07:27:10 PM
I'd say there could be a few U-21s in before the league is over, if any of them have any interest in going in. Gearoid McKiernan was named on the McKenna Cup panel but didn't play and Bud Fitz played and played well although that seems to count for little. Keating is a strange one.

Drama seems to follow Keating alright.

I'm glad the 21's were left off it. In my opinion you should have to prove yourself at your own age-group before you get the senior call-up. We will see what the young men are made of in March.

Who do you think ,of the u21's, would push for a start with the senior team?
Well to start is a tough one. Obviously Keating started last year as did Dunne at some stage. Declan McKiernan would be the stand out one for me and maybe McDermott but I must admit I haven't seen an awful lot of him. What about your man McEnroe from Ramor? How good is he?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dougal on February 03, 2010, 08:22:54 PM
mcdermot had a great 2nd half against roscommon,but i dont know about starting,not sure mckiernan either.id like to see givney get a good bit of game time in the league this year.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on February 03, 2010, 11:56:13 PM
Quote from: Lawrence of Knockbride on February 03, 2010, 08:19:04 PM
Quote from: put-it-up on February 03, 2010, 07:35:51 PM
Quote from: Lawrence of Knockbride on February 03, 2010, 07:27:10 PM
I'd say there could be a few U-21s in before the league is over, if any of them have any interest in going in. Gearoid McKiernan was named on the McKenna Cup panel but didn't play and Bud Fitz played and played well although that seems to count for little. Keating is a strange one.

Drama seems to follow Keating alright.

I'm glad the 21's were left off it. In my opinion you should have to prove yourself at your own age-group before you get the senior call-up. We will see what the young men are made of in March.

Who do you think ,of the u21's, would push for a start with the senior team?
Well to start is a tough one. Obviously Keating started last year as did Dunne at some stage. Declan McKiernan would be the stand out one for me and maybe McDermott but I must admit I haven't seen an awful lot of him. What about your man McEnroe from Ramor? How good is he?

Sorry didn't mean to start but honestly what of the u21's deserves to be on the senior panel at the minute? I dont think any u21 should get a call-up until they stand out playing IC football at their own level first. Would certainly stop inflated ego's anyway in my opinion. McDermott , i feel has a lot more than most forwards in Cavan
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on February 04, 2010, 02:01:18 PM
 Re: Sigerson Cup
« Reply #111 on: Today at 12:52:19 PM »   

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Forgot to add . Johnson broke his elbow yesterday for DCU. Looked nasty. Out for the whole NFL and Sigerson obviously.

Posted by INDIANA.

Hope its not as bad as all that.  Can anyoe confirm?

 

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on February 04, 2010, 03:31:12 PM
Well look on the bright side,
we might actually design some patterns of play for other players and not resort to sending every ball into Johnson even when he has 3 men on him,which happened alot last year  ::)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on February 04, 2010, 04:58:18 PM
For any man doesn't know yet....


Johnston blow for Cavan


Cavan have been dealt a huge blow ahead of their National Football League opener this weekend with the news that star forward Sean Johnston looks set to miss the entire campaign.

The Cavan Gaels man suffered a broken elbow during DCU's Sigerson Cup victory over UCD yesterday and will definitely miss the trip to Roscommon this Sunday.

Johnston had to be withdrawn in the 37th minute after a collision with an opponent early on in the second-half and an x-ray afterwards confirmed that the 25-year-old suffered a break, which was believed to have required surgery this morning.

The news is a massive blow to manager Tommy Carr, who has looked to bolster his attack since the start of the season by bringing in Oliver Plunkett's ace Gareth Smith and recently welcoming back Simonstown's Michael Brennan, who had been out of the fold since 2007.

Carr recently confirmed his 24-man panel that would travel to Roscommon, which included Johnston, but is now set to wait until Friday night to decide what team will line-out at Dr Hyde Park on Sunday.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on February 04, 2010, 05:01:11 PM
Thats the spirit BHM.  Especially since we now have Smith and Brennan (?) for the forwards.  Who will lose out?  Brady obviously (he isn't in the panel). Will Reilly lose out?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on February 04, 2010, 08:54:15 PM
perhaps you might see something like

Martin Reily, Gareth Smith, Ray Cullivan
Michael Brennan, Ray Galligan,Cian Mackey
start on sunday.

im interested to see Mickey Brennan as a forward as ive only every seen him play and played against him,when he was at Full or wing back for the county and at midfield for his club.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: whats my name on February 04, 2010, 09:25:19 PM
from what i have heard eugene keating opted out of the panel to concentrate on the u-21's and when that is finished he is available form the seniors also i heard rory dunne has no interest in playing with the county seniors at all just with the u-21's.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dougal on February 04, 2010, 09:54:16 PM
im gald to see very few u21's on the seniors.mcdermots still u21 next year?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on February 05, 2010, 09:36:51 AM
Quote from: Dougal on February 04, 2010, 09:54:16 PM
im gald to see very few u21's on the seniors.mcdermots still u21 next year?

Niall Mc Dermott was Minor in 2008.He is U-21 next year.
Im also glad that theres so few U-21s on the Senior panel.In hindsight if the same thing had been done with the last good team we had in 2005 then who knows what would have happened.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on February 05, 2010, 12:12:28 PM
Seems like Lyng is fit and that rumours of his demise were greatly exaggerated....


Johnston out for NFL

Cavan's preparations for their NFL Division Three campaign have been rocked by the news that star forward Seanie Johnston looks set to be out for up to three months with an elbow injury sustained in a Sigerson Cup match with DCU against UCD yesterday (Wednesday).

Former GPA Player of the Month Johnston has been the Breffni Blues' top scorer for the past three seasons but looks likely to play no part in the league, which begins for Tommy Carr's men this Sunday with a tricky-looking away trip to Roscommon.

"Sean has a broken elbow and it looks as if he will be out for the whole league campaign," confirmed Cavan county board PRO Declan Woods.

"He suffered the injury while playing for DCU in the Sigerson Cup yesterday. It's a blow to us but we'll have to get on with things as best we can."

The injury to Johnston, who was withdrawn after 37 minutes having scored 0-2, will heap further pressure on Carr, whose side were beaten in all three McKenna Cup matches last month.

Meanwhile, Woods rubbished recent reports of an injury to Johnston's Cavan Gaels teammate Micheál Lyng.

"Micheál is fit and available for selection, I spoke to him and he doesn't know where that story came from," stated Woods.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dougal on February 05, 2010, 01:50:37 PM
thats good new about lyng.decent bit of competition for a place in the forwards.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on February 05, 2010, 02:52:38 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on February 04, 2010, 08:54:15 PM
perhaps you might see something like

Martin Reily, Gareth Smith, Ray Cullivan
Michael Brennan, Ray Galligan,Cian Mackey
start on sunday.

im interested to see Mickey Brennan as a forward as ive only every seen him play and played against him,when he was at Full or wing back for the county and at midfield for his club.

Brennan is not available for Sunday.Will be available for next week.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on February 05, 2010, 03:25:12 PM
Boojangles, you're like a woman promising to go to the gym with your new year's resolution-lasted the month of January :D :D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on February 05, 2010, 04:38:47 PM
Quote from: Lawrence of Knockbride on February 05, 2010, 03:25:12 PM
Boojangles, you're like a woman promising to go to the gym with your new year's resolution-lasted the month of January :D :D

Haha.  :D I have a problem.
Thats not really discussing things though in fairness.Just passing on information really. Unlike most women I intend to stick it out ;)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on February 05, 2010, 04:49:24 PM
Quote from: boojangles on February 05, 2010, 02:52:38 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on February 04, 2010, 08:54:15 PM
perhaps you might see something like

Martin Reily, Gareth Smith, Ray Cullivan
Michael Brennan, Ray Galligan,Cian Mackey
start on sunday.

im interested to see Mickey Brennan as a forward as ive only every seen him play and played against him,when he was at Full or wing back for the county and at midfield for his club.

Brennan is not available for Sunday.Will be available for next week.

Im sure it will be Martin in the corner and Mackey on the wing. Was in the Irish Sun today that Flanagan has only a 20% chance of playing, he limped off for DCU aswell.

We are still shockingly poor in the MF area and have worries about the backline. However, once Johnston is back for championship I think this could be a blessing in disguise. At least now we have to work something else out to get scores.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on February 05, 2010, 05:12:58 PM
Quote from: put-it-up on February 05, 2010, 04:49:24 PM
Quote from: boojangles on February 05, 2010, 02:52:38 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on February 04, 2010, 08:54:15 PM
perhaps you might see something like

Martin Reily, Gareth Smith, Ray Cullivan
Michael Brennan, Ray Galligan,Cian Mackey
start on sunday.

im interested to see Mickey Brennan as a forward as ive only every seen him play and played against him,when he was at Full or wing back for the county and at midfield for his club.

Brennan is not available for Sunday.Will be available for next week.

Im sure it will be Martin in the corner and Mackey on the wing. Was in the Irish Sun today that Flanagan has only a 20% chance of playing, he limped off for DCU aswell.

We are still shockingly poor in the MF area and have worries about the backline. However, once Johnston is back for championship I think this could be a blessing in disguise. At least now we have to work something else out to get scores.
Only 20% of what's in the sun is accurate so that changes things drastically.
Quote from: boojangles on February 05, 2010, 04:38:47 PM
Quote from: Lawrence of Knockbride on February 05, 2010, 03:25:12 PM
Boojangles, you're like a woman promising to go to the gym with your new year's resolution-lasted the month of January :D :D

Haha.  :D I have a problem.
Thats not really discussing things though in fairness.Just passing on information really. Unlike most women I intend to stick it out ;)
I'm not sure what you're sticking out at the women in Drumalee but it's hardly GAA related ;D
Sorry, but it's Friday evening.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: beer baron on February 05, 2010, 05:19:58 PM
drumalee women chancey?mc mahons tonite?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on February 05, 2010, 05:28:34 PM
Quote from: Lawrence of Knockbride on February 05, 2010, 05:12:58 PM
Quote from: put-it-up on February 05, 2010, 04:49:24 PM
Quote from: boojangles on February 05, 2010, 02:52:38 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on February 04, 2010, 08:54:15 PM
perhaps you might see something like

Martin Reily, Gareth Smith, Ray Cullivan
Michael Brennan, Ray Galligan,Cian Mackey
start on sunday.

im interested to see Mickey Brennan as a forward as ive only every seen him play and played against him,when he was at Full or wing back for the county and at midfield for his club.

Brennan is not available for Sunday.Will be available for next week.

Im sure it will be Martin in the corner and Mackey on the wing. Was in the Irish Sun today that Flanagan has only a 20% chance of playing, he limped off for DCU aswell.

We are still shockingly poor in the MF area and have worries about the backline. However, once Johnston is back for championship I think this could be a blessing in disguise. At least now we have to work something else out to get scores.
Only 20% of what's in the sun is accurate so that changes things drastically.
Quote from: boojangles on February 05, 2010, 04:38:47 PM
Quote from: Lawrence of Knockbride on February 05, 2010, 03:25:12 PM
Boojangles, you're like a woman promising to go to the gym with your new year's resolution-lasted the month of January :D :D

Haha.  :D I have a problem.
Thats not really discussing things though in fairness.Just passing on information really. Unlike most women I intend to stick it out ;)
I'm not sure what you're sticking out at the women in Drumalee but it's hardly GAA related ;D
Sorry, but it's Friday evening.

Your right, there are always two fake ones on page 3 ;D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on February 05, 2010, 06:12:39 PM
Sounds like Tommy is getting his excuses in first no training in the off season, McKenna Cup and now the Sigerson. He should not be making such a big deal about players being out as it does nothing for the morale of the lads that are playing. Does he not reaslise that every county have the same issues. Time for Tommy to shut up and start to deliver.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BigMac on February 05, 2010, 08:03:14 PM
Heard Stephen Jordan dislocated his shoulder and thats why he didnt get any game time in the McKenna cup. He will hardly get called back in when hes fit again.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: whats my name on February 05, 2010, 11:08:49 PM
    this is the team for sunday i hear
               
              f reilly,
   
d sheridan,m corr,m hannon,

m mckever, j mc cutheon,alan clarke,
     
     n walsh, e mcguigan,
   
    d givney,nesty,c mackey
   
     m reilly,r galligan,m lyng
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dougal on February 05, 2010, 11:12:36 PM
Quote from: whats my name on February 05, 2010, 11:08:49 PM
    this is the team for sunday i hear
               
              f reilly,
   
d sheridan,m corr,m hannon,

m mckever, j mc cutheon,alan clarke,
     
     n walsh, e mcguigan,
   
    d givney,nesty,c mackey
   
     m reilly,r galligan,m lyng

looks decent enough,apart from walsh.and im amazed that cahill isnt playing.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4sam on February 06, 2010, 11:00:33 AM
Quote from: Dougal on February 05, 2010, 11:12:36 PM
Quote from: whats my name on February 05, 2010, 11:08:49 PM
    this is the team for sunday i hear
               
              f reilly,
   
d sheridan,m corr,m hannon,

m mckever, j mc cutheon,alan clarke,
     
     n walsh, e mcguigan,
   
    d givney,nesty,c mackey
   
     m reilly,r galligan,m lyng

looks decent enough,apart from walsh.and im amazed that cahill isnt playing.

That team is right apart from Cahill is playing and Hannon is not.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on February 06, 2010, 12:16:58 PM
Looks ok.  Almost got the full back line.

And should be a good subs bench. 
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on February 06, 2010, 01:13:58 PM
Probably close to the best we can put out but i'd have my doubts if it is good enough to keep us in Div 3, never mind get us promoted. I hope I'm wrong.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on February 06, 2010, 05:11:29 PM
Quote from: beer baron on February 05, 2010, 05:19:58 PM
drumalee women chancey?mc mahons tonite?

Not as chancey as the fellas.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on February 06, 2010, 06:52:52 PM
Any man heading for Roscommon tomorrow at all?  Or is everyone happy to listen to Northern Sound's unique coverage?  ;D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on February 06, 2010, 07:26:13 PM
Says Dr Hyde on Aertel,
but is it not Kiltoom the game is in?   ???
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on February 06, 2010, 07:44:45 PM
I'm heading and am heading for the Hyde so I assume that's where it is. some roscommon lad said on some thread that they usually play in Kiltoom months back but all I've seen is Hyde Park.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dougal on February 06, 2010, 08:51:04 PM
Im headin anyway.i would of thought it would be in kiltoom,but as far as i know its in hyde
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on February 06, 2010, 08:57:33 PM
Quote from: Denn Forever on February 06, 2010, 12:16:58 PM
Looks ok.  Almost got the full back line.

And should be a good subs bench.

Are you serious? Our bench will be poor. Conor Smith and Eddie are the only forwards and we have no good starting midfielders, never mind a good sub one.

I thought of this point earlier and found it hard to make sense of it. Corr plays MF for Denn but is FB for Cavan. McGuigan normally doesn't play at MF for Belturbet. Givney is not a natural WF but is being deployed there..Square pegs and round holes?

However glad to see McKeever being given a shot a wing-back, always thought that was his best position and I think Dermot is far better suited to corner-back.

Also be interested to see how Lyng plays, doubt he will stay in the corner.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on February 06, 2010, 11:07:40 PM
Quote from: Lawrence of Knockbride on February 06, 2010, 07:44:45 PM
I'm heading and am heading for the Hyde so I assume that's where it is. some roscommon lad said on some thread that they usually play in Kiltoom months back but all I've seen is Hyde Park.

Im in the process of deliberating whether to go or not. Got a Season ticket for Xmas and being the tight bastard that I am,I would hate to get no use out of it. Wherever ya hear plenty of roaring from-that will be me!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on February 06, 2010, 11:15:50 PM
Quote from: boojangles on February 06, 2010, 11:07:40 PM
Quote from: Lawrence of Knockbride on February 06, 2010, 07:44:45 PM
I'm heading and am heading for the Hyde so I assume that's where it is. some roscommon lad said on some thread that they usually play in Kiltoom months back but all I've seen is Hyde Park.

Im in the process of deliberating whether to go or not. Got a Season ticket for Xmas and being the tight b**tard that I am,I would hate to get no use out of it. Wherever ya hear plenty of roaring from-that will be me!

Or knocking women out of the way either Boojangles??
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on February 07, 2010, 12:15:57 AM
Quote from: Celt_Man on February 06, 2010, 11:15:50 PM
Quote from: boojangles on February 06, 2010, 11:07:40 PM
Quote from: Lawrence of Knockbride on February 06, 2010, 07:44:45 PM
I'm heading and am heading for the Hyde so I assume that's where it is. some roscommon lad said on some thread that they usually play in Kiltoom months back but all I've seen is Hyde Park.

Im in the process of deliberating whether to go or not. Got a Season ticket for Xmas and being the tight b**tard that I am,I would hate to get no use out of it. Wherever ya hear plenty of roaring from-that will be me!

Or knocking women out of the way either Boojangles??

Haha,women don't belong on a football field!! Ah only joking,I never seen her I swear.
How did the Practical go for ya?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on February 07, 2010, 12:24:43 AM
Quote from: boojangles on February 07, 2010, 12:15:57 AM
Quote from: Celt_Man on February 06, 2010, 11:15:50 PM
Quote from: boojangles on February 06, 2010, 11:07:40 PM
Quote from: Lawrence of Knockbride on February 06, 2010, 07:44:45 PM
I'm heading and am heading for the Hyde so I assume that's where it is. some roscommon lad said on some thread that they usually play in Kiltoom months back but all I've seen is Hyde Park.

Im in the process of deliberating whether to go or not. Got a Season ticket for Xmas and being the tight b**tard that I am,I would hate to get no use out of it. Wherever ya hear plenty of roaring from-that will be me!

Or knocking women out of the way either Boojangles??

Haha,women don't belong on a football field!! Ah only joking,I never seen her I swear.
How did the Practical go for ya?


It went well... I believe the term "genius" was mentioned at one stage!!  ;D ;D
What about yourself?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on February 07, 2010, 12:30:28 AM
This is horrid chat lads,sure those two ladies could read this!
Il tell you what though,i sure wouldnt mind running into that full-time female Cavan GAA coach on accident!!!  ;D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on February 07, 2010, 12:38:25 AM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on February 07, 2010, 12:30:28 AM
This is horrid chat lads,sure those two ladies could read this!
Il tell you what though,i sure wouldnt mind running into that full-time female Cavan GAA coach on accident!!!  ;D

Can't believe I just changed it... on accident!!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on February 07, 2010, 01:12:50 AM
Not too bad,enjoyed today,some very good drills.
Jesus I wouldn't mind gettin a number of either of them women last nite ha.I wasn't gone on our ones hair but she looked sweet with the hat on, as for that blonde one,she is gorgeous!

Sorry lads,back to the GAA talk.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dougal on February 07, 2010, 06:01:35 PM
very impressed with the lads today,massive improvement from the mckenna cup.10 players got on the score sheet.ray galligan scored 10 (7 frees)only missed 1 free and 1 45.givney was very good,was used as a 3rd midfielder and got at least 4 marks,scored two points,1 was very good from a tight angle and was roasting lads left right and centre.mackey scored 1-1,mcguigan 1-0,nesty 0-2 (1 free),eddie 0-1,mccutcheon 0-1,mckeever 0-1,cant remember the rest at the minute.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4sam on February 07, 2010, 06:23:42 PM
Great win for the lads today alright, hopefully now they will keep that up for the rest of the league campaign and get a winning run going.

PS is it Fiona that ye lads are talking about??
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: beer baron on February 07, 2010, 06:29:16 PM
jaysus i hope not,yur not that stuck celt man.unless im tinkin of a dif camel toed coach
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on February 07, 2010, 06:39:30 PM
Quote from: beer baron on February 07, 2010, 06:29:16 PM
jaysus i hope not,yur not that stuck celt man.unless im tinkin of a dif camel toed coach
You must be and I'm not saying anymore coz I'll get into trouble!!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: whats my name on February 07, 2010, 06:47:56 PM
who's this fiona murphy she is some mare infairness lol good game today hopefully we can build on it and maybe get promoted but lets not get carried away one swallow doesnt make a summer.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on February 07, 2010, 06:55:37 PM
Just back from Roscommon... Absolutely brilliant result and great performance. Honestly there wasn't a bad individual performance in a Cavan jersey at all.  Backs defended well overall (1 -10) isn't bad from a backline who would have never played together before.

Mid field done very well and broke the ball well from Rossie's kickouts, they completed with 90% of the ball around the middle and both had positive contributions to open play.  McGuigan took the goal well after a very good supporting run.

Forwards were good and the switch of Martin Reilly to wing forward with Mackey moving to the corner worked well and nipped any potential problems in the bud.  Nesty is some man to pick out a pass on the 40 and won a few breaks around the middle too.  Givney won some nice ball in the air and on the deck and his handling is very good, he looks very composed on the ball and scored a peach of a point to go ahead in the second half.  Galligan gave an exhibition from placed balls, one monster of a free from 55m and another sideline kick from his hands were the pick of his 6 or 7 dead ball scores.  He also got 2 sweet scores from play.  Lyng was good especially in the second half and always worked well.

Actually Cavan definitely could have had 3 more goals very easy with points form Eddie and Galligan just going narrowly over the crossbar and Givney had a shot go inches wide with the last kick of the game.

Hopefully they can keep it up and I hope they feel that Antrim are owed a beating on Saturday.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: beer baron on February 07, 2010, 07:14:50 PM
she must be a dif one than was there wen i was doing my coaching bout 4-5 yrs ago
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Western Blue on February 07, 2010, 07:38:27 PM
Glad  I made the trip to the Hyde. It was a joy to watch a Cavan team for the first time in a very long number of years play as a unit. Even when they went 4 points down after Donal Shine brilliant goal we were the team playing the football.
Thought Mossy Corr coped well on Big D.Shine and Sheridan and Cahilll  did their defensive work well Both Walsh and McGuigan competed well and got great help from the half forwards.

Overall the team expressed themselves and maybe Jelly's absence will allows us play a  different style  of game as on the evidence this afternoon we can play good football.
Ronan Flanagan to come back into the side too. I hope we stay injury free until the summer is over in September!!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on February 07, 2010, 07:51:44 PM
Only a few things to add on what was a great team performance against a very poor Roscommon side.
BH Man, where's Cullivan? Also Eddie's point from 1 yard out was the highlight of the game. Just as well it didn't matter.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on February 07, 2010, 08:01:41 PM
Quote from: Lawrence of Knockbride on February 07, 2010, 07:51:44 PM
Only a few things to add on what was a great team performance against a very poor Roscommon side.
BH Man, where's Cullivan? Also Eddie's point from 1 yard out was the highlight of the game. Just as well it didn't matter.

Injured,only back with DCU this week where he came on as a sub in the Sigerson,missed most of their Ryan Cup campaign.
Just aswell to leave him be until the Sigerson is finished id say.
Just to echo what everyone has said,absolutely delighted with the performance today.
Contrast this to last year in Pearse Park,some difference.
Saturday nights game against an Antrim team minus the Galls contingent will be crucial.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on February 07, 2010, 08:36:45 PM
This is the Cavan Thread?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on February 07, 2010, 11:00:04 PM
Unfortunately, due to other commitments over the next few weeks I don't think I'll be seeing the 1st half of the league games. Have to say I was fairly shocked to see that scoreline. Now Ros may have been dung but to put up 2-20 with no Seanie Johnstone or Flanagan is fair going. Well done to the team and hopefully they can build on that.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dougal on February 07, 2010, 11:37:15 PM
to be honest i wouldnt give a toss if we had of lost today,we played some good football,played like we wanted to be there and played with pride.they really gave it there all today,lets hope they can keep it up,and hopefully we can get a decent crowd behind the team aswell.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on February 08, 2010, 01:11:10 AM
As designated driver for the day Im just home, I even heard Croke Park being mentioned at some stage tonight! :D
Great team performance but repeating it next week and the week after is what we all wanna see.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on February 08, 2010, 12:05:49 PM
I'd keep the bandwagon up on blocks for now, tougher tests lie ahead (Antrim next up who beat a decent Sligo outfit without most of their best players) but it sounds like the lads were organised, motivated and played to a gameplan so credit where its due and well done, it's something we can build on.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on February 08, 2010, 07:18:50 PM
Good to see the thread has moved on from our discussions of saturday night  ;D
One point to bring us back to earth,id rate Thomas Corr as a footballer as anyone who has seen my posts on here can see.
However i believe he will be badly exposed at full back before this league campaign is out.
I know Shine is a very good footballer,but Corr struggled badly at times i thought.
Hes much better out the field,id prefer to see him tried at Midfield.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on February 08, 2010, 08:34:31 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on February 08, 2010, 07:18:50 PM
Good to see the thread has moved on from our discussions of saturday night  ;D
One point to bring us back to earth,id rate Thomas Corr as a footballer as anyone who has seen my posts on here can see.
However i believe he will be badly exposed at full back before this league campaign is out.
I know Shine is a very good footballer,but Corr struggled badly at times i thought.
Hes much better out the field,id prefer to see him tried at Midfield.

Ahh I thought Corr done rightly on Sunday but either way would like to see him getting 3 or 4 games there anyway. Let him have a good shot at it.

What did you all think of mid field?  I thought the two boys did well but the amount of running around that goes on before a kickout so a keeper can try and pick out a handy catch for a mark is ridiculous and is definitely slowing down the game going by Sunday anyway.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on February 08, 2010, 10:06:12 PM
Intermediate Championship Group 4- Ballinagh Drumalee Kill Laragh

BH Man,Celt Man any word on your own groups??
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Swadman on February 08, 2010, 10:07:42 PM
Senior Football Championship:

Group 1: Lacken, Castlerahan, Crosserlough, Killygarry
Group 2: Denn, Gowns, Belturbet, Mullahoran

Group 3: Drumbride, Ramor, Lavey, Cavan Gaels

Group 4: Cuchullains, Kingscourt, Redhills, Brackwater Gaels


Intermediate Football Championship:

Group 1: Drumlane, Ballymaghugh, Knockbride, Drung

Group 2: Killeshandra, Drumgoon, Ballyhaise, Butlersbridge

Group 3: Cootehill, Killinkere, Bailieborough, Cavan Gaels

Group 4: Laragh, Ballinagh, Drumalee, Kill


Junior Football Championship:

Group 1: Muintirconnaght, Cornafean, Shannon Gaels, Swanlinbar

Group 2: Kildallan, Mountnugent, Arva, Corlough

Group 3: Mahera, Shercock, Templeport





Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dougal on February 08, 2010, 10:10:56 PM
great a tough group again this year.senior group 2 is a tough one,dont see denn getting out of that one.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on February 08, 2010, 10:14:50 PM
Don't see it either.  A lot of people's second choice there.

The homecoming for Damian will be interesting and thank you Gowna but there'll be no favours that night.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on February 09, 2010, 12:53:31 AM
Tough draw for ourselves
Dvision One Killeshandra
Drumgoon and our neighbours the Bridge.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: gortnaleck on February 09, 2010, 02:01:56 AM
Anyone know did Pierson play for London on Sunday
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on February 09, 2010, 08:35:52 AM
I've been told by a clubmate of Pierson's that he's back training with them.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on February 09, 2010, 12:42:45 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on February 09, 2010, 12:53:31 AM
Tough draw for ourselves
Dvision One Killeshandra
Drumgoon and our neighbours the Bridge.

As favourites, yas shouldn't have too much problems with that group.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on February 09, 2010, 04:19:56 PM
4 fairly even enough groups in the Intermediate.  the only group I would even hazard a guess at predicting the top 2 would be the last one with Drumalee and Ballinagh.  Although Laragh and Kill are dogged and definite bananaskins in the making...

As for our own group, Bailieboro were semi finalists last year so will obviously tough, Killinkere - I have never had an easy game against Killinkere in my life and Cavan Gaels will be an big unknown come championship time. 
How come they can be in Intermediate without winning Junior anyway??
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on February 09, 2010, 04:29:24 PM
Quote from: boojangles on February 09, 2010, 12:42:45 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on February 09, 2010, 12:53:31 AM
Tough draw for ourselves
Dvision One Killeshandra
Drumgoon and our neighbours the Bridge.

As favourites, yas shouldn't have too much problems with that group.
dont know whowould have us as favourites boojangles
sure we have two former Winners in Ballinagh and Drumalee there
Last years beaten finalists Cootehill etc
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on February 09, 2010, 04:30:53 PM
Group 2: Denn, Gowna, Belturbet, Mullahoran
:o
Talk about a group of death.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on February 09, 2010, 04:36:58 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on February 09, 2010, 04:30:53 PM
Group 2: Denn, Gowna, Belturbet, Mullahoran
:o
Talk about a group of death.

Aye big time.  2 big teams gonna be heading out the gate at the end of the group stages and one of them going to the relegation play offs.

Apart from that all the other groups are fairly even.  Alright the Gaels should win their group out but the three other teams all will fancy their chances of getting that other quarter final spot.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on February 09, 2010, 04:46:24 PM
Predictions for all groups.

Senior Football Championship:

Group 1: Killygarry,Castlerahan
Group 2:Denn,Belturbet
Group 3:Ramor,Cavan Gaels
Group 4LKingscourt,Redhills

Intermediate
Group 1:Knockbride,Drung
Group 2:Killeshandra,B'Haise  :)
Group 3:Cootehill,B'boro
Group 4:Ballinagh,Drumalee

Junior
1. Shannon Gaels,Swad,Cornafean
2.Kildallan,Mountnugent,Arva
3.Sherock,T'port.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on February 09, 2010, 04:49:19 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on February 09, 2010, 04:46:24 PM
Predictions for all groups.

Intermediate
Group 1:Knockbride,Drung
Group 2:Killeshandra,B'Haise  :)
Group 3:Cootehill,B'boro
Group 4:Ballinagh,Drumalee

If that was the way things panned out BHMan, it would leave four tough looking quarter finals whatever way they came out of the hat
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on February 09, 2010, 04:52:03 PM
Quote from: Celt_Man on February 09, 2010, 04:49:19 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on February 09, 2010, 04:46:24 PM
Predictions for all groups.

Intermediate
Group 1:Knockbride,Drung
Group 2:Killeshandra,B'Haise  :)
Group 3:Cootehill,B'boro
Group 4:Ballinagh,Drumalee

If that was the way things panned out BHMan, it would leave four tough looking quarter finals whatever way they came out of the hat
You're right CM
there no really weak team there,if things work out that way.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on February 09, 2010, 04:56:36 PM
Quote from: Celt_Man on February 09, 2010, 04:19:56 PM

How come they can be in Intermediate without winning Junior anyway??

Think it was another stupid idea put forward by the County Board-Obviously backed by Junior clubs.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on February 09, 2010, 05:00:13 PM
Quote from: boojangles on February 09, 2010, 04:56:36 PM
Quote from: Celt_Man on February 09, 2010, 04:19:56 PM

How come they can be in Intermediate without winning Junior anyway??

Think it was another stupid idea put forward by the County Board-Obviously backed by Junior clubs.

Did I hear right that if your first team is senior then your junior team has to play in the grade below that i.e Intermediate???  That would explain the Gaels but still not right.  No team should be in Intermediate who haven't won the Junior Championship
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on February 09, 2010, 05:04:14 PM
Wouldnt worry about the gaels second team lads.
We played their full strength 2nd team last summer a few weeks before championship and absolutely hammered them.
They will be a tough proposition in the league,but i dont think they will be any match for Cootehill,Baileborough in that group.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on February 09, 2010, 05:20:52 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on February 09, 2010, 05:04:14 PM
Wouldnt worry about the gaels second team lads.
We played their full strength 2nd team last summer a few weeks before championship and absolutely hammered them.
They will be a tough proposition in the league,but i dont think they will be any match for Cootehill,Baileborough in that group.

Im not worrying about them,Id actually like to meet them(especially lately) but its ridiculous that a club has to put its 2nd team into a championship that is one step above their level.
I believe that the CB brought in some rule that any club who's 2nd team plays in the top 3 Divisions in the League can only play one level below their Senior team in Championship.They couldn't win the Junior championship last year,how can they be expected to win an Intermediate.
Call me a bollix for saying so but we have 2 men from Junior clubs in the top positions in Senior and Youth football in Cavan and some of the decisions made are only aimed at helping Junior clubs,and not the overall standard of football in Cavan.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on February 09, 2010, 05:24:10 PM
Quote from: boojangles on February 09, 2010, 05:20:52 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on February 09, 2010, 05:04:14 PM
Wouldnt worry about the gaels second team lads.
We played their full strength 2nd team last summer a few weeks before championship and absolutely hammered them.
They will be a tough proposition in the league,but i dont think they will be any match for Cootehill,Baileborough in that group.

Im not worrying about them,Id actually like to meet them(especially lately) but its ridiculous that a club has to put its 2nd team into a championship that is one step above their level.
I believe that the CB brought in some rule that any club who's 2nd team plays in the top 3 Divisions in the League can only play one level below their Senior team in Championship.They couldn't win the Junior championship last year,how can they be expected to win an Intermediate.
Call me a bollix for saying so but we have 2 men from Junior clubs in the top positions in Senior and Youth football in Cavan and some of the decisions made are only aimed at helping Junior clubs,and not the overall standard of football in Cavan.
Id say you're on the mark there boojangles,having a junior championship with 11 teams,and bumping one of the major contenders up to intermediate, well what can we say other than something about this stinks to high heavens.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on February 09, 2010, 05:37:52 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on February 09, 2010, 05:24:10 PM
Quote from: boojangles on February 09, 2010, 05:20:52 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on February 09, 2010, 05:04:14 PM
Wouldnt worry about the gaels second team lads.
We played their full strength 2nd team last summer a few weeks before championship and absolutely hammered them.
They will be a tough proposition in the league,but i dont think they will be any match for Cootehill,Baileborough in that group.

Im not worrying about them,Id actually like to meet them(especially lately) but its ridiculous that a club has to put its 2nd team into a championship that is one step above their level.
I believe that the CB brought in some rule that any club who's 2nd team plays in the top 3 Divisions in the League can only play one level below their Senior team in Championship.They couldn't win the Junior championship last year,how can they be expected to win an Intermediate.
Call me a bollix for saying so but we have 2 men from Junior clubs in the top positions in Senior and Youth football in Cavan and some of the decisions made are only aimed at helping Junior clubs,and not the overall standard of football in Cavan.
Id say you're on the mark there boojangles,having a junior championship with 11 teams,and bumping one of the major contenders up to intermediate, well what can we say other than something about this stinks to high heavens.

Its not just Senior level either BH Man. Your own club had a good proposal at the last Youth Board meeting which was to increase the amont of games in the Minor Championship.Have groups of 4, dividing up each division. Basically it meant Minors were getting more football during the summer instead of having them sitting for 2 or 3months without competition.
My own club was willing to back the proposal.
Ballyhaise had raised the issue at the County Convention and it was referred to the 1st meeting of the new Youth Board for discussion.The new chairman wouldn't even entertain the idea. Democracy?
Apparently Minors will play for some worthless shield in the summer. ::)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: KingOfSeptember on February 09, 2010, 05:59:06 PM
QuoteCall me a bollix for saying so but we have 2 men from Junior clubs in the top positions in Senior and Youth football in Cavan and some of the decisions made are only aimed at helping Junior clubs,and not the overall standard of football in Cavan.

Your attitude is crazy! They were democratically elected, both by overwhelming majorities (esp the minor), and THEY don't make any decisions. Chairmen have only one vote, same as any committee member.
The delegates who allegedly allowed themselves to be bullied at the minor board meeting are weak, plain and simple. Explain who a chairman 'couldn't entertain it'? Was it on the agenda? If not, the chairman was right.
These are the rules of our association lads, crazy as they sound. They have, generally, served us well for 100 years.
I very, very rarely post here but I check it a lot for a laugh mainly. Everyone here seems to be a loyal supporter and all seem like good fellas, but the amount of half-truths, bogus statements, ignorance of rules and procedure and downright lies that are posted here is incredible.
Case in point was a few days ago when the county management were criticised over dropping several players who hadn't got a run. Totally inaccurate.
Anyway, rant over as Mr Pain used to say, what's the verdict on last Sunday? Two points a help to stay up or go up?  Saturday evening will reveal an awful lot. A win there and I'll accept we're making progress. Anything less will put the Roscommon match in perspective.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on February 09, 2010, 06:25:23 PM
Quote from: KingOfSeptember on February 09, 2010, 05:59:06 PM
QuoteCall me a bollix for saying so but we have 2 men from Junior clubs in the top positions in Senior and Youth football in Cavan and some of the decisions made are only aimed at helping Junior clubs,and not the overall standard of football in Cavan.

Your attitude is crazy! They were democratically elected, both by overwhelming majorities (esp the minor), and THEY don't make any decisions. Chairmen have only one vote, same as any committee member.
The delegates who allegedly allowed themselves to be bullied at the minor board meeting are weak, plain and simple. Explain who a chairman 'couldn't entertain it'? Was it on the agenda? If not, the chairman was right.
These are the rules of our association lads, crazy as they sound. They have, generally, served us well for 100 years.
I very, very rarely post here but I check it a lot for a laugh mainly. Everyone here seems to be a loyal supporter and all seem like good fellas, but the amount of half-truths, bogus statements, ignorance of rules and procedure and downright lies that are posted here is incredible.
Case in point was a few days ago when the county management were criticised over dropping several players who hadn't got a run. Totally inaccurate.
Anyway, rant over as Mr Pain used to say, what's the verdict on last Sunday? Two points a help to stay up or go up?  Saturday evening will reveal an awful lot. A win there and I'll accept we're making progress. Anything less will put the Roscommon match in perspective.

Your attitude is Naive.Tell me what was inaccurate in what I posted? You don't even know anything about the Minor Board meeting I'm referring to. The Chairman brought in a rule that no club could be represented twice on the Youth Board. He didn't propose it and it wasn't seconded. That is a fact.No innaccuracies in what I'm saying. Does that sound like democracy?
The chairman didn't even know if it was on the agenda such was the shambolic nature of the meeting. The Youth Board Chairman may turn out to be very effective but just because he won the seat by an overwhelming majority doesn't mean anything. Remember he replaced a man who wouldn't have been very popular.
You mention these rules have served us well for over 100 years. Yes they really have served Cavan football well.Wasn't it great to see the amount of cups on the table at the County Convention??
Some club delegates can't even think for themselves when it comes to certain matters.Go with the flow or vote for him as he is voting for our club man. Far too much politics involved instead of thinking about whats good for Cavan football.
75% of clubs in Cavan would have voted for Ian Paisley ahead of a Cavan Gaels man (Mark Gillic) if he was going for the Chairmans job, regardless of his credentials.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: KingOfSeptember on February 09, 2010, 07:36:05 PM
QuoteYour attitude is Naive.Tell me what was inaccurate in what I posted? You don't even know anything about the Minor Board meeting I'm referring to. The Chairman brought in a rule that no club could be represented twice on the Youth Board. He didn't propose it and it wasn't seconded. That is a fact.No innaccuracies in what I'm saying. Does that sound like democracy?
The chairman didn't even know if it was on the agenda such was the shambolic nature of the meeting. The Youth Board Chairman may turn out to be very effective but just because he won the seat by an overwhelming majority doesn't mean anything. Remember he replaced a man who wouldn't have been very popular.

I am not naieve - I see the big picture. I didn't directly accuse you of being innacurate, although you were a few weeks back when you made up your own rule about deducting points!
Re the minor board meeting, if that's the case, the chairman broke the rules. And if that is the case, then the rest of those present - ie the secretary, delegates, other committee members - have committed a worse crime by being either too weak to stand up against it or too ignorant of the rules. Were you there?

QuoteYou mention these rules have served us well for over 100 years. Yes they really have served Cavan football well.Wasn't it great to see the amount of cups on the table at the County Convention??
Yes, the rules have served us well. I'm astounded by this comment! There is more to the running of the largest amateur sporting body on the planet than what cups a county wins in a given year.
By the way, seeing as you are using the 100-year timeframe I referred to, even through the narrow prism in which you view the relative success of the association, which apparently is the cups Cavan win, the 'rules' have served us very, very well. This county has more than it's fair share of titles.

My original point was that your comment about decisions catering to junior clubs because the chairmen are from junior clubs was unfair. Anyone familiar with the role chairmen play in our association would find your comment laughable in fact.

I'll spell it out. Boards make decisions, not chairmen. If a chairman goes on a solo run as you say, it's the board's fault for allowing it.

PS: If a meeting is of a 'shambolic nature', that's the fault of the secretary. He takes the agenda, the minutes and more or less ensures the proper running of the meeting in accordance with rule. The chairman chairs the meeting, which is a different thing.
I actually think you don't know these basics and are throwing out wild accusations willy nilly.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on February 10, 2010, 12:16:23 AM
Quote from: KingOfSeptember on February 09, 2010, 07:36:05 PM
QuoteYour attitude is Naive.Tell me what was inaccurate in what I posted? You don't even know anything about the Minor Board meeting I'm referring to. The Chairman brought in a rule that no club could be represented twice on the Youth Board. He didn't propose it and it wasn't seconded. That is a fact.No innaccuracies in what I'm saying. Does that sound like democracy?
The chairman didn't even know if it was on the agenda such was the shambolic nature of the meeting. The Youth Board Chairman may turn out to be very effective but just because he won the seat by an overwhelming majority doesn't mean anything. Remember he replaced a man who wouldn't have been very popular.

I am not naieve - I see the big picture. I didn't directly accuse you of being innacurate, although you were a few weeks back when you made up your own rule about deducting points!
Re the minor board meeting, if that's the case, the chairman broke the rules. And if that is the case, then the rest of those present - ie the secretary, delegates, other committee members - have committed a worse crime by being either too weak to stand up against it or too ignorant of the rules. Were you there?
I know what happened.The Chairman was put back over his mistake and he couldn't even clarify the position. Its not up to delegates to make sure a meeting is conducted properly.I don't care who broke the rules as long as important issues are given the proper time and discussion. What you are focusing on is getting away from my point. My main gripe is with a perfectly good proposal (that IMO would improve Minor football) being put to the table and it wasn't even discussed properly. It was brushed over.
Quote
You mention these rules have served us well for over 100 years. Yes they really have served Cavan football well.Wasn't it great to see the amount of cups on the table at the County Convention??
Yes, the rules have served us well. I'm astounded by this comment! There is more to the running of the largest amateur sporting body on the planet than what cups a county wins in a given year.
By the way, seeing as you are using the 100-year timeframe I referred to, even through the narrow prism in which you view the relative success of the association, which apparently is the cups Cavan win, the 'rules' have served us very, very well. This county has more than it's fair share of titles.
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Your astounded? less of the dramatics. I'm a Cavan man and I view the success of the association within Cavan as being my only focus. Call it a narrow prism or whatever you want but I'm not going to shed any tears if the GAA is struggling in Monaghan or any other county. The end result is success and we have not had any success in Cavan for far too long. These fair share of titles you speak of are in a different life time. I was alive for Cavan winning 3 Ulster titles at any level. If you call that a fair share then its no wonder we find ourselves in the position we'r in.
We are lagging behind nearly every county in Ulster in everything.Facilities,Success,Membership,Qualified coaches,Clubs standards. I'm seeing small signs of improvement but this county has a long,long way to go before we can get back to where we belong.
Quote
My original point was that your comment about decisions catering to junior clubs because the chairmen are from junior clubs was unfair. Anyone familiar with the role chairmen play in our association would find your comment laughable in fact.

I'll spell it out. Boards make decisions, not chairmen. If a chairman goes on a solo run as you say, it's the board's fault for allowing it.

PS: If a meeting is of a 'shambolic nature', that's the fault of the secretary. He takes the agenda, the minutes and more or less ensures the proper running of the meeting in accordance with rule. The chairman chairs the meeting, which is a different thing.
I actually think you don't know these basics and are throwing out wild accusations willy nilly.

You don't have to spell anything out I'm well aware how a meeting is conducted thank you.I have served on my own club committee and I'm well aware of a chairmans role within the GAA. I'm also well aware of how a Board works. A Chairman may have only One vote but that vote is very important.Tommy Carr knows all about how important the Chairmans vote is.So don't kid yourself that he is only one voice.he is the most important man in the County Board and carries alot more influence than any other officer.
If you want to take time to read through my previous 1100 or so posts you will see that I rarely talk shite.I may occassionally get things wrong and Il be the first to admit if thats the case. I take my football very serious so don't insult my intelligence and accuse me of throwing out accusations wily nily or not being aware of these basics. Your the one making assumptions about a meeting that you know nothing about.
I stand by my original comment about the 2 Junior Chairmen.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on February 10, 2010, 05:41:49 PM
Quote from: KingOfSeptember on February 09, 2010, 05:59:06 PM
QuoteCall me a bollix for saying so but we have 2 men from Junior clubs in the top positions in Senior and Youth football in Cavan and some of the decisions made are only aimed at helping Junior clubs,and not the overall standard of football in Cavan.

Your attitude is crazy! They were democratically elected, both by overwhelming majorities (esp the minor), and THEY don't make any decisions. Chairmen have only one vote, same as any committee member.
The delegates who allegedly allowed themselves to be bullied at the minor board meeting are weak, plain and simple. Explain who a chairman 'couldn't entertain it'? Was it on the agenda? If not, the chairman was right.
These are the rules of our association lads, crazy as they sound. They have, generally, served us well for 100 years.
I very, very rarely post here but I check it a lot for a laugh mainly. Everyone here seems to be a loyal supporter and all seem like good fellas, but the amount of half-truths, bogus statements, ignorance of rules and procedure and downright lies that are posted here is incredible.
Case in point was a few days ago when the county management were criticised over dropping several players who hadn't got a run. Totally inaccurate.
Anyway, rant over as Mr Pain used to say, what's the verdict on last Sunday? Two points a help to stay up or go up?  Saturday evening will reveal an awful lot. A win there and I'll accept we're making progress. Anything less will put the Roscommon match in perspective.

Not getting involved but look who the Minor Chairman was going up against and that will say a lot about the majority...
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on February 11, 2010, 02:31:30 PM
Time to move on - Johnston

11 February 2010

Cavan attacker Seanie Johnston says Breffni County supporters need to move on.

The Blues' glorious past has for decades proved a millstone around the neck of successive Cavan teams and Cavan Gaels clubman Johnston - currently sidelined through injury - believes it's time to forget the past and judge the current team on its own merits:

"Cavan are not Kerry. Cavan have not won an All-Ireland since 1952.

"Cavan have not won an Ulster championship since 1997 and haven't looked like winning one in any of the years since.

"We were beaten by two Division Four teams in the championship last year.

"Winning Ulster championships and winning All-Irelands I don't think are going to be the main goals for us.

"It's about building a team and there is a lot of youth and new guys in the panel and they are coming in with no inhibitions and I am sure they don't fear anyone.

"We just want to get a team of those sort of boys together so that they can compete at Ulster championship level and then hopefully you will see the improvements over the next year or two.

"They all need to realise that they can't live in the past and that we are a long way down the pecking order."



Hard to argue with anything he says there
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on February 11, 2010, 05:13:19 PM
Quote from: Celt_Man on February 11, 2010, 02:31:30 PM
Time to move on - Johnston

11 February 2010

Cavan attacker Seanie Johnston says Breffni County supporters need to move on.

The Blues' glorious past has for decades proved a millstone around the neck of successive Cavan teams and Cavan Gaels clubman Johnston - currently sidelined through injury - believes it's time to forget the past and judge the current team on its own merits:

"Cavan are not Kerry. Cavan have not won an All-Ireland since 1952.

"Cavan have not won an Ulster championship since 1997 and haven't looked like winning one in any of the years since.

"We were beaten by two Division Four teams in the championship last year.

"Winning Ulster championships and winning All-Irelands I don't think are going to be the main goals for us.

"It's about building a team and there is a lot of youth and new guys in the panel and they are coming in with no inhibitions and I am sure they don't fear anyone.

"We just want to get a team of those sort of boys together so that they can compete at Ulster championship level and then hopefully you will see the improvements over the next year or two.

"They all need to realise that they can't live in the past and that we are a long way down the pecking order."



Hard to argue with anything he says there

On the contrary Celt man, I for one am getting sick of listening or reading Seanies little press releases. Where did this latest load of shite come from. Who said we were going to win Sam or even Ulster. I have never seen Cavan support so depressed. All anyone wants is for our lads to do their best and play to their potential, not to stand with their hands on their hips moaning as their man runs up the field. We want our team to play like a team and not 15 individuals. Time for Seanie to start concentrating on football and curtail his press releases until he has something worthwhile to say.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on February 11, 2010, 05:21:47 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on February 11, 2010, 05:13:19 PM
Quote from: Celt_Man on February 11, 2010, 02:31:30 PM
Time to move on - Johnston

11 February 2010

Cavan attacker Seanie Johnston says Breffni County supporters need to move on.

The Blues' glorious past has for decades proved a millstone around the neck of successive Cavan teams and Cavan Gaels clubman Johnston - currently sidelined through injury - believes it's time to forget the past and judge the current team on its own merits:

"Cavan are not Kerry. Cavan have not won an All-Ireland since 1952.

"Cavan have not won an Ulster championship since 1997 and haven't looked like winning one in any of the years since.

"We were beaten by two Division Four teams in the championship last year.

"Winning Ulster championships and winning All-Irelands I don't think are going to be the main goals for us.

"It's about building a team and there is a lot of youth and new guys in the panel and they are coming in with no inhibitions and I am sure they don't fear anyone.

"We just want to get a team of those sort of boys together so that they can compete at Ulster championship level and then hopefully you will see the improvements over the next year or two.

"They all need to realise that they can't live in the past and that we are a long way down the pecking order."



Hard to argue with anything he says there

On the contrary Celt man, I for one am getting sick of listening or reading Seanies little press releases. Where did this latest load of shite come from. Who said we were going to win Sam or even Ulster. I have never seen Cavan support so depressed. All anyone wants is for our lads to do their best and play to their potential, not to stand with their hands on their hips moaning as their man runs up the field. We want our team to play like a team and not 15 individuals. Time for Seanie to start concentrating on football and curtail his press releases until he has something worthwhile to say.

he is out for a couple of months with a broken elbow and I doubt he is issuing these press releases.  More than likely he was asked a question and gave an answer which was turned into an interview.  No big deal as far as I'm concerned
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on February 11, 2010, 06:08:41 PM
Its from Hoganstand.

Lets acknowledge our sources.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on February 11, 2010, 06:12:46 PM
I understand what Myles is saying,we dont need press releases to tell us all this,
I dont know any Cavan supporter who nowadays expects us to win All Irelands and Ulsters each year,sure few of us are even expecting promotion from Division 3!!!!
Seanie said nothing wrong in that interview,but as Celt Man said,he probably only answered maybe 2 or 3 questions and they developed a whole interview from that.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on February 11, 2010, 06:13:02 PM
Quote from: Denn Forever on February 11, 2010, 06:08:41 PM
Its from Hoganstand.

Lets acknowledge our sources.

Think it's a re-jigged version of an interview in today's Indo
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on February 11, 2010, 08:23:49 PM
Quote from: KingOfSeptember on February 09, 2010, 05:59:06 PM
QuoteCall me a bollix for saying so but we have 2 men from Junior clubs in the top positions in Senior and Youth football in Cavan and some of the decisions made are only aimed at helping Junior clubs,and not the overall standard of football in Cavan.

Your attitude is crazy! They were democratically elected, both by overwhelming majorities (esp the minor), and THEY don't make any decisions. Chairmen have only one vote, same as any committee member.
The delegates who allegedly allowed themselves to be bullied at the minor board meeting are weak, plain and simple. Explain who a chairman 'couldn't entertain it'? Was it on the agenda? If not, the chairman was right.
These are the rules of our association lads, crazy as they sound. They have, generally, served us well for 100 years.
I very, very rarely post here but I check it a lot for a laugh mainly. Everyone here seems to be a loyal supporter and all seem like good fellas, but the amount of half-truths, bogus statements, ignorance of rules and procedure and downright lies that are posted here is incredible.
Case in point was a few days ago when the county management were criticised over dropping several players who hadn't got a run. Totally inaccurate.
Anyway, rant over as Mr Pain used to say, what's the verdict on last Sunday? Two points a help to stay up or go up?  Saturday evening will reveal an awful lot. A win there and I'll accept we're making progress. Anything less will put the Roscommon match in perspective.
::)
Anyone got any bogus or half-true news on the team for the weekend that you could share with an interested ignoramousl, just for the laugh like?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on February 11, 2010, 10:28:50 PM
Quote from: Lawrence of Knockbride on February 11, 2010, 08:23:49 PM
Quote from: KingOfSeptember on February 09, 2010, 05:59:06 PM
QuoteCall me a bollix for saying so but we have 2 men from Junior clubs in the top positions in Senior and Youth football in Cavan and some of the decisions made are only aimed at helping Junior clubs,and not the overall standard of football in Cavan.

Your attitude is crazy! They were democratically elected, both by overwhelming majorities (esp the minor), and THEY don't make any decisions. Chairmen have only one vote, same as any committee member.
The delegates who allegedly allowed themselves to be bullied at the minor board meeting are weak, plain and simple. Explain who a chairman 'couldn't entertain it'? Was it on the agenda? If not, the chairman was right.
These are the rules of our association lads, crazy as they sound. They have, generally, served us well for 100 years.
I very, very rarely post here but I check it a lot for a laugh mainly. Everyone here seems to be a loyal supporter and all seem like good fellas, but the amount of half-truths, bogus statements, ignorance of rules and procedure and downright lies that are posted here is incredible.
Case in point was a few days ago when the county management were criticised over dropping several players who hadn't got a run. Totally inaccurate.
Anyway, rant over as Mr Pain used to say, what's the verdict on last Sunday? Two points a help to stay up or go up?  Saturday evening will reveal an awful lot. A win there and I'll accept we're making progress. Anything less will put the Roscommon match in perspective.
::)
Anyone got any bogus or half-true news on the team for the weekend that you could share with an interested ignoramousl, just for the laugh like?

Yeah, I heard Jelly is in at corner-forward with one arm and big Derm is starting midfield ;D

Id say Ronan Flanagan will come in for someone but other than that I imagine it will be much the same. Big game for them at the weekend, they badly need to get solid back to back wins together instead of constant high's and lows.

And I wouldn't criticise Jelly for saying that stuff. Yeah, he can come across arrogant at times and his attitude on the field can drive you mad but if someone rings your phone and asks a few questions all you can do is answer them honestly...
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on February 11, 2010, 11:08:17 PM
Quote from: put-it-up on February 11, 2010, 10:28:50 PM
Quote from: Lawrence of Knockbride on February 11, 2010, 08:23:49 PM
Quote from: KingOfSeptember on February 09, 2010, 05:59:06 PM
QuoteCall me a bollix for saying so but we have 2 men from Junior clubs in the top positions in Senior and Youth football in Cavan and some of the decisions made are only aimed at helping Junior clubs,and not the overall standard of football in Cavan.

Your attitude is crazy! They were democratically elected, both by overwhelming majorities (esp the minor), and THEY don't make any decisions. Chairmen have only one vote, same as any committee member.
The delegates who allegedly allowed themselves to be bullied at the minor board meeting are weak, plain and simple. Explain who a chairman 'couldn't entertain it'? Was it on the agenda? If not, the chairman was right.
These are the rules of our association lads, crazy as they sound. They have, generally, served us well for 100 years.
I very, very rarely post here but I check it a lot for a laugh mainly. Everyone here seems to be a loyal supporter and all seem like good fellas, but the amount of half-truths, bogus statements, ignorance of rules and procedure and downright lies that are posted here is incredible.
Case in point was a few days ago when the county management were criticised over dropping several players who hadn't got a run. Totally inaccurate.
Anyway, rant over as Mr Pain used to say, what's the verdict on last Sunday? Two points a help to stay up or go up?  Saturday evening will reveal an awful lot. A win there and I'll accept we're making progress. Anything less will put the Roscommon match in perspective.
::)
Anyone got any bogus or half-true news on the team for the weekend that you could share with an interested ignoramousl, just for the laugh like?

Yeah, I heard Jelly is in at corner-forward with one arm and big Derm is starting midfield ;D

Id say Ronan Flanagan will come in for someone but other than that I imagine it will be much the same. Big game for them at the weekend, they badly need to get solid back to back wins together instead of constant high's and lows.

And I wouldn't criticise Jelly for saying that stuff. Yeah, he can come across arrogant at times and his attitude on the field can drive you mad but if someone rings your phone and asks a few questions all you can do is answer them honestly...

..Or say no comment :)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on February 11, 2010, 11:25:06 PM
i didnt read kingofseptembers rant.
cliff notes anyone?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on February 12, 2010, 10:22:26 AM
I can understand what Myles is objecting to, it does get wearying hearing the same player giving his lofty opinions on all things especially when we know he's not always on the moral high ground or exactly a team player on occasions. But in his defence, I'd agree with what the substance of what he said, it offers a bit of leadership and and it's no harm for a reality check. And in fairness to him, he's the only Cavan player with any sort of profile and therefore the only Cavan player a journalist would be bothered ringing.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on February 12, 2010, 12:08:07 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on February 11, 2010, 11:25:06 PM
i didnt read kingofseptembers rant.
cliff notes anyone?

Ha??
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on February 12, 2010, 12:09:02 PM
Quote from: cavanmaniac on February 12, 2010, 10:22:26 AM
I can understand what Myles is objecting to, it does get wearying hearing the same player giving his lofty opinions on all things especially when we know he's not always on the moral high ground or exactly a team player on occasions. But in his defence, I'd agree with what the substance of what he said, it offers a bit of leadership and and it's no harm for a reality check. And in fairness to him, he's the only Cavan player with any sort of profile and therefore the only Cavan player a journalist would be bothered ringing.


Exactly.

Myles come down from your little pedestal please?? We all know it's worthwile keeping the media on your side and giving them a quote or two when they come calling. Fair enough if it is a personal question or a question regarding a team-mate but to say no comment to the questions that were asked would just be narrow-minded and immature.

I for one don't particularly enjoy reading Johnston's opinions, but if people are ringing him and looking for them I wouldn't criticise him for saying what he said. At the end of the day, he likes being in the paper and if kept his mouth shut Cavan's national media coverage would be cut in half because the only other figure of interest nationally is Carr.

And anyway he only said what we all aready know (bar the kids on Hoganstand who think we will win Ulster because we bet Roscommon ;D)


Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on February 12, 2010, 02:03:01 PM
Quote from: put-it-up on February 12, 2010, 12:09:02 PM
Quote from: cavanmaniac on February 12, 2010, 10:22:26 AM
I can understand what Myles is objecting to, it does get wearying hearing the same player giving his lofty opinions on all things especially when we know he's not always on the moral high ground or exactly a team player on occasions. But in his defence, I'd agree with what the substance of what he said, it offers a bit of leadership and and it's no harm for a reality check. And in fairness to him, he's the only Cavan player with any sort of profile and therefore the only Cavan player a journalist would be bothered ringing.


Exactly.

Myles come down from your little pedestal please?? We all know it's worthwile keeping the media on your side and giving them a quote or two when they come calling. Fair enough if it is a personal question or a question regarding a team-mate but to say no comment to the questions that were asked would just be narrow-minded and immature.

I for one don't particularly enjoy reading Johnston's opinions, but if people are ringing him and looking for them I wouldn't criticise him for saying what he said. At the end of the day, he likes being in the paper and if kept his mouth shut Cavan's national media coverage would be cut in half because the only other figure of interest nationally is Carr.

And anyway he only said what we all aready know (bar the kids on Hoganstand who think we will win Ulster because we bet Roscommon ;D)

I don't disagree with what he said at all. But why is he saying it? Where are all these fans that are going around with false high hopes. Its not the 1st time Seanie has decided to lecture the Cavan support and I think he'd be better focusing on football and less talking cos he has the ability to be one of the best forwards in Ireland but he is not nearly there yet. Personally, I'd rather get lectured to by Eddie Reilly, he may not be as skilled as Seanie but at least I know that he busts his hole and does his best when playing for Cavan and I respect him for that cos thats all you can ask of anyone.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BigMac on February 12, 2010, 03:49:35 PM
Myles, i agree with you that there isnt really any fans of Cavan football expecting us to win Ulster, so when ya hear Seanies comments they dont seem to make sense. I would like to know who the journalist is that questioned him and I dont mean to patronising at all but if you have ever been interviewed or read the whole quotes from interviews it can be very easy to manipulate someone to say what you want to hear. If the interviewer suggested to Seanie that there was people in Cavan expecting them to win Ulster then its easy for him to walk into the trap and say "people who expect us to win ulster are bla bla bla....."
On another note some very interesting draws in the championships. Again i think the intermediate is the closest and could be won by any of maybe 5 teams. Senior looks to be the gaels for the taking again.
Anyone hear the team for Antrim game?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on February 12, 2010, 03:59:23 PM
Quote from: BigMac on February 12, 2010, 03:49:35 PM
Myles, i agree with you that there isnt really any fans of Cavan football expecting us to win Ulster, so when ya hear Seanies comments they dont seem to make sense. I would like to know who the journalist is that questioned him and I dont mean to patronising at all but if you have ever been interviewed or read the whole quotes from interviews it can be very easy to manipulate someone to say what you want to hear. If the interviewer suggested to Seanie that there was people in Cavan expecting them to win Ulster then its easy for him to walk into the trap and say "people who expect us to win ulster are bla bla bla....."
On another note some very interesting draws in the championships. Again i think the intermediate is the closest and could be won by any of maybe 5 teams. Senior looks to be the gaels for the taking again.
Anyone hear the team for Antrim game?

Granted it is possible the quote was taken out of context.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on February 12, 2010, 05:15:58 PM
Without kicking a dead dog, he is a high profile player for one of the favourites for the Sigerson Cup who was ruled out of the competition and the National League with a recently broken elbow so a journalist asking him for a few words wouldn't be the strangest thing in the world. 

And then with a huge winning margin in the first game of Cavan's league campaign just a few days earlier, it isn't a huge stretch that he would be asked about it either and then the fan's thinking would be closely related.   

Simple really
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on February 12, 2010, 05:57:04 PM
Something about Seanie seems to get on Myles' goat, think it's something to do with him stretching his hammers during the national anthem at a match last year or some such.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on February 12, 2010, 06:49:09 PM
Quote from: anglocelt39 on February 12, 2010, 05:57:04 PM
Something about Seanie seems to get on Myles' goat, think it's something to do with him stretching his hammers during the national anthem at a match last year or some such.

No AC, its no one thing. Its a stream of little things adding up. We have a world champion handball player on the team and I don't hear him blathering in the media every few months. When Seanie scarpered to the US couple of seasons back he arrogantly talked to the media how it was the managers job to pick the best players - i.e. I have to be let back in cos I'm the best. His lack of respect for a minutes silence as well as the national anthem against Louth last year another and finally his attitude on the pitch stinks at times. He has great ability we all know but so do a lot of players and if you want to get to the level of Canavan or Gooch you need to walk the walk as well as talk the talk. I'll say no more about it.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on February 12, 2010, 10:28:00 PM
Same team for 2mrw.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on February 13, 2010, 12:23:59 AM
Quote from: boojangles on February 12, 2010, 10:28:00 PM
Same team for 2mrw.

Aye would have expected that alright.  All the lads deserved it after the performance last week
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on February 13, 2010, 12:40:02 AM
Myles, on a scale of most to least objectionable, where would you rate Seanie among the following:

Stephen King, Donal Keogan, Tommy Carr, Members of the Cavan County Board who were in office around the time of Mick Higgins' death, your Average Hogan Stand Poster and last, but by no means least, the Mods on Hogan Stand. Arrah feckit throw in Martin Cahill and our World Champion handballer just by way of completing the old Chicago 3 bit.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on February 13, 2010, 10:39:23 AM
Quote from: anglocelt39 on February 13, 2010, 12:40:02 AM
Myles, on a scale of most to least objectionable, where would you rate Seanie among the following:

Stephen King, Donal Keogan, Tommy Carr, Members of the Cavan County Board who were in office around the time of Mick Higgins' death, your Average Hogan Stand Poster and last, but by no means least, the Mods on Hogan Stand. Arrah feckit throw in Martin Cahill and our World Champion handballer just by way of completing the old Chicago 3 bit.

Is there a point to this question? Why don't we add in "Drung" and the other posters that have had a go at you in the past and then maybe you can rate them?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on February 13, 2010, 12:01:20 PM
Won't make it tonight so could someone post a report of the match?

Cliff notes acceptable.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on February 13, 2010, 01:40:06 PM
For the second time, what are Cliff notes?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on February 13, 2010, 02:26:42 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CliffsNotes

and i still don't know what they are.

How about BHM just does his usual 1-15 ratings and comments, thanks in advance.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on February 13, 2010, 02:30:53 PM
I'll file a report if everyone stops squabbling.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on February 13, 2010, 03:37:50 PM
Cliff notes are used by students who can't be bothered reading the text book.  They provide summaries of the text and accepted analysis of the subject.

Some people call them "cheats".  And guess who published them first.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on February 13, 2010, 04:08:00 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on February 13, 2010, 02:26:42 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CliffsNotes

and i still don't know what they are.

How about BHM just does his usual 1-15 ratings and comments, thanks in advance.

np Myles,il add it at about 9.30pm before i go on the razz.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on February 13, 2010, 04:11:20 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on February 13, 2010, 04:08:00 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on February 13, 2010, 02:26:42 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CliffsNotes

and i still don't know what they are.

How about BHM just does his usual 1-15 ratings and comments, thanks in advance.

np Myles,il add it at about 9.30pm before i go on the razz.

Cheers, I only ask as I will be forced to listen to Northern Sound online and we all know that that will give me no idea whatsoever of who played well :D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dougal on February 13, 2010, 04:57:29 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on February 13, 2010, 04:11:20 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on February 13, 2010, 04:08:00 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on February 13, 2010, 02:26:42 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CliffsNotes

and i still don't know what they are.

How about BHM just does his usual 1-15 ratings and comments, thanks in advance.

np Myles,il add it at about 9.30pm before i go on the razz.

Cheers, I only ask as I will be forced to listen to Northern Sound online and we all know that that will give me no idea whatsoever of who played well :D

you will however know who played well in some challenge match 50 years ago.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on February 13, 2010, 06:44:24 PM
Sorry for the delay in coming back to you Myles. I suppose my precise question is why are you so consistently highly critical of one of the few (possibly the only) current Cavan player that other Counties would like to have in their panel. Of course it is your right to use this forum to post your views and I'm sure you'll allow me to challenge those views where I see fit. So, specifically:

What is the problem with the lad giving some fairly harmless quotes to a a journalist on the current state of Cavan football?


Why do you appear to be willing to kiss and make up with two of the Chicago three but not our Seanie?


Finally, what were you thinking when you used the Mick Higgins tribute thread, of all places to make critical comments about the player in question?



You say it's a number of small things that contribute to your problem with the player in question and there is no doubt that his attitude could do with improving (based on last year anyway). Maybe it's time to consider the bigger picture:

Like many others, he's a lad indulging his hobby and putting huge hours into it, hardly in the hope of picking up an All Ireland any time soon. By all means get stuck into Ronaldo, Beckham or even Stephen Ireland, they're paid a few bob to compensate them for criticism. be it informed or not.

As I understand it he's bust his gut since minor level to improve his skills and strength and deserves credit. If some of his minor colleagues from a few years ago had put in the same effort into improving themselves we'd be better placed (Mckeever, Gaynor, Paddy Brady, Sean Brady etc. etc.).

Finally, he actually chooses to turn out and represent his County, which is different from I reckon as many as six of his current club mates and a number of others who constantly get referred to on here as being serious additions to the County team if they could be bothered.



Bottom line is that there are far bigger issues in Cavan football than Sean Johnstons on pitch demeanour.

Enjoy a lot of your posts Myles, just that you are way too harsh on the lad in question.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on February 13, 2010, 06:56:37 PM
Quote from: anglocelt39 on February 13, 2010, 06:44:24 PM

Enjoy a lot of your posts Myles, just that you are way too harsh on the lad in question.

Have to agree.Some may question his demeanor but if we had a few more like Sean we wouldn't be playing Division 3 football.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on February 13, 2010, 08:02:41 PM
Quote from: anglocelt39 on February 13, 2010, 06:44:24 PM
Sorry for the delay in coming back to you Myles. I suppose my precise question is why are you so consistently highly critical of one of the few (possibly the only) current Cavan player that other Counties would like to have in their panel. Of course it is your right to use this forum to post your views and I'm sure you'll allow me to challenge those views where I see fit. So, specifically:

What is the problem with the lad giving some fairly harmless quotes to a a journalist on the current state of Cavan football?


Why do you appear to be willing to kiss and make up with two of the Chicago three but not our Seanie?


Finally, what were you thinking when you used the Mick Higgins tribute thread, of all places to make critical comments about the player in question?



You say it's a number of small things that contribute to your problem with the player in question and there is no doubt that his attitude could do with improving (based on last year anyway). Maybe it's time to consider the bigger picture:

Like many others, he's a lad indulging his hobby and putting huge hours into it, hardly in the hope of picking up an All Ireland any time soon. By all means get stuck into Ronaldo, Beckham or even Stephen Ireland, they're paid a few bob to compensate them for criticism. be it informed or not.

As I understand it he's bust his gut since minor level to improve his skills and strength and deserves credit. If some of his minor colleagues from a few years ago had put in the same effort into improving themselves we'd be better placed (Mckeever, Gaynor, Paddy Brady, Sean Brady etc. etc.).

Finally, he actually chooses to turn out and represent his County, which is different from I reckon as many as six of his current club mates and a number of others who constantly get referred to on here as being serious additions to the County team if they could be bothered.



Bottom line is that there are far bigger issues in Cavan football than Sean Johnstons on pitch demeanour.

Enjoy a lot of your posts Myles, just that you are way too harsh on the lad in question.

OK, you want answers here you go...

What is the problem with the lad giving some fairly harmless quotes to a a journalist on the current state of Cavan football?

It is his constant comments in the media about Cavan supporters that I have problem with. Search back through these pages and you'll find others. What he said was false as there is no false sense of superiority in Cavan supporters circles - so why is he having ago about an issue that doesn't exist.


Why do you appear to be willing to kiss and make up with two of the Chicago three but not our Seanie?

Them 3 heading off was a dirty act and Keoghan was right to try and punish them, the fact that he hadn't the balls to follow through is a measure of Keoghan. It is done and dusted now and nowhere of late have I criticised any of these 3 players for this issue.

Finally, what were you thinking when you used the Mick Higgins tribute thread, of all places to make critical comments about the player in question?

The county panel not showing for the funeral of a legend was a disgrace but granted it was more the fault of Carr and the Co Board. I spoke lately with a journalist who described the act as revolting. I used Seanies actions as an example of falling standards of respect and I don't apologise for it.

You seem to imply I have a vendetta against Seanie Johnstone. I don't. I don't even know him. I just expect our players to do their best and maybe show a bit of respect for the people that pay in to see them.

Now that is my final word on it, I don't want to drag up old debates.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on February 13, 2010, 08:29:14 PM
I don't have to imply you have a vendetta against the lad in question Myles, go back through your posts and it's fairily clear you have a big problem with him for whatever reason. Possibly a bit of the good old fashioned "too big for his boots" outlook

As regards your comments on the Mick Higgins funeral arrangements, the words dog and bone spring to mind. The last I saw of your exchanges over on Hoganstand a member of the Higgins family was on complimenting the County board on their support and assistance at what I'm sure was a difficult enough time. Good enough for me, and most people I'd have thought.

Using what was a tribute to a former GAA legend to have a(nother) pop at a hard working and talented current inter county player was ill considered. To paraphrase the words of your friend the Hogan Stand Moderator, that's my final, yes, final word on the matter.

All square at half time, 1-6 each. Ray Galligan Goal, midfield struggling
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on February 13, 2010, 09:32:30 PM
Well I was at the game and it's not good lads. Roscommon were that bad and we seem about the same level as we were last year. In the second half it was embaressing and the final deficit of 8 or 9 points didn't flatter Antrim one bit. Their running on and off the ball was very good and streets ahead of ours. There composure on the ball and use of it was similarly impressive.
On our side we relied on frees from Nesty and Galligan who each missed one I think. We got a fortuitous goal to paper over the cracks in the first half.
I'm not going to knock any players but Carr has decided that his bewildering attempts to turn a non-full back into a full-back is the way to go again this year. The similarities between Podge Reilly and Mossy Corr is obvious. Corr got nowhere near his man as I would expect. It didn't stand out last week because Roscommon didn't deliver enough ball. McCutcheon got destroyed at CB I'm afraid and I'm and admirer of his. Walsh was bad even for Walsh and was withdrawn with a limp that seemed to come on as he left. Incase King of September is reading I said "seemed". Galligan at full-forward looks sluggish and lazy in general play and was easily pushed off the ball. I wondered about this after the Roscommon game and was backed by a Lacken man I spoke to during the week. Anyway on the positve side we've hopefully played the best team in the division,albeit wihtout the St.Galls lads and we stil have quite good attacking players if we can get them on the ball going the right direction. When it's coming back at us we're in trouble.
One more point. The ref was woeful and tried to give us everything in the final 15 minutes out of sympathy.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on February 13, 2010, 10:14:20 PM
Everything Lawrence posted is correct,It is BAD lads,we were as bad tonight as Roscommon were last Sunday!!!
Antrim were in a different class to us.
Myles,not even going to bother with ratings,it was that pathetic

Demot Sheridan got taken to the cleaners by Paddy Cunningham,
Mossy Corr,was behind his man too much,but to be fair he got a hand in most of the time,
A mix up with Eoin McGuigan caused the first goal though.
Martin Cahill was dragged out as Antrim played a two man full forward line. He was as usual one of our better performers.

Mark McKeever,Got roasted for speed numerous times.kicked a great score in the first half.
John McCutcheon,not his best day at the office,got taken on a trip of Breffini.
Alan Clarke,wasnt good,like the other two in the half back line.

Nicholas Walsh,didnt make one positive contribution in the game,
Eoin McGuigan,tried hard and is a good ball carrier but is not an IC Midfielder.


David Givney,why does he try to catch every ball??? it got on my nerves tonight,good midfielders know when they have to punch and when the catch is on,wasnt good at all tonight.
Gareth Smith,Probably our best player,lovely passer of the ball,missed a few frees and gave the ball away a few times,but one of the few that for me can come out with some credit.
Martin Reily,hes just not strong enough for IC Level,got pushed around like a rag doll at times,replaced by Flangan after 25 minutes.

Cian Mackey,scored a beautiful point from play in the first half,and tried to get on the ball,but was starved of good posession due to our midfield impotence and lack of any game plan.
Raymond Galligan,Good from frees,and won a few frees, hes not a quick player  and he may look sluggish,but thats the trade off sometimes,size for speed,Needs to be stronger though as he was knocked over a bit too easy at times.
Michael Lyng, Starved in the corner,one beautiful pass to set up McKeever's point,but was a spectator for most of it,

Subs
Michael Brennan
Ciaran Galligan
Ronan Flanagan
Eddie Reily(late on).

Why is it that teams can seemingly run straight through us,at speed in lines of 2/3,but you never see us with such support play???
You could see the outline of a game plan in the first half,get the ball to nesty and let him hit the full forward line with good ball in,but it all went out the window in the second half.
Antrim in terms of support play,,forward movement and very evidently physique and fitness were on a different planet to us tonight. Revenge for last year? i hope we dont meet their full strength unit this year or they would beat us out the gate.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on February 13, 2010, 10:38:02 PM
I did warn you boy's that Roscommon were that bad...

Couldn't make it tonight but had a pretty strong feeling we would be beaten I am afraid. I honestly think our midfield is the worst at IC level in the country..Shocking...

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Babe Ruth 47 on February 14, 2010, 04:01:28 AM
Admitidly lads this was my first Cavan match of the year, but that was an absolute disgrace. Personally I'd consider that forward six performance as the worst I've ever seen, especially in the second half. Nowhere did any of them show any desire to win ball. Numerous times when Cavan were attacking from the half back line, the inside line seemed there was no need to show, instead hanging in behind their men looking for the soft options. The Gaels have their obvious flaws when it comes to Ulster football, but look at how their forward 6 work as a unit, sweeping forward with the support of the half back line, it's something Cavan could really learn from.

Lord above, I know Eddie has his critics, but at least he tries, give me that instead of what I witnessed tonight any day.

Galligan did alright, won a few frees, done well from placed ball but he's no inter county footballer. Walsh was a disaster, yet again, offered absolutely nothing. McGuigan seemed to try hard, but lacks the class of an inter county midfielder. Really ran out of steam afer 50 mins. Always have been a big fan of Givney's but was poor tonight. Really needs to learn how to read kick outs, so that he is attaking the ball. Numerous times tonight he got caught under the ball, jumping vertically, where he had no chance. Look at Dara O'Se, Ncholas Murphy etc, how they carry momentum through fielding the ball. Hopefully its something he will learn over time.

Mossy Corr is out of his depth at full back. Corr is a footballer I really admire, he is definately at his best in the middle of the field, would love to see him given a go there for Cavan. Undoutedly he is at a dissadvantage height wise, but he is a powerful athlete driving at the opposition.  As a previous poster stated, I too was dissapointed in McCutcheon tonight, but what I've seem from him over the last year or so, has been quite good.

On the bright side, it could be worse, you could be a Roscommon fan!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on February 14, 2010, 09:41:44 AM
The league can be a funny thing alright and its hard to know who is  doing the hard training and who is not. I did suggested that I felt Cavan would struggle against a team like Antrim that are organised, play a running game and support each other but I didn't think we'd only score once in the 2nd half! Likewise I didn't think we'd trounce Roscommon. All I hope for is that we can avoid relegation so some of these new players get a chance to improve at a decent level. What I fear is that in past years we have tried new players but we always had the older lads in the wings to come in and bail us out but that is not the case anymore. The U21's and minors is where I desperately want to see something happening and seniors would just be a bonus if we got anything from it. I have my suspicions that we will fall short at senior level this year and I have my suspicions that Tommy Carr, the man I hoped would get the job, is not a good manager at all.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on February 14, 2010, 11:09:36 AM
Good analysis BH Man. My hands and brain were too cold to type and think that much. We do get run through extremely easy. On Eoin McGuigan, it may be that he just tired because of all the lost causes he had to chase. Walsh really is the most bewildering of selections. I'd have Mulvey in there instead and that's saying something. Two weeks hard training now before the trip to Drogheda. Have theU-21s any games that TC could watch?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on February 14, 2010, 11:38:38 AM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on February 14, 2010, 09:41:44 AM
The U21's and minors is where I desperately want to see something happening and seniors would just be a bonus if we got anything from it. I have my suspicions that we will fall short at senior level this year and I have my suspicions that Tommy Carr, the man I hoped would get the job, is not a good manager at all.

That'd be my attitude in a nutshell as well.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on February 14, 2010, 01:21:13 PM
Is the next game during the day?  Maybe we don't like cold frosty nights.

Dissapointing but can't say I'm surprised.  Did any of the subs rate?  Brennan?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on February 14, 2010, 04:20:07 PM
Ronan Flanagan wasnt up to his usual standards,but hes only coming back from injury,so i wouldnt be too worried about that.
Ciaran Galligan wasnt in the game much, as he was shifted to Wing Forward when he came on and Givney put into Midfield.
Brennan was brought on with about 10 minutes left only got one ball sent in to him from what i can remember and won a free out on the side line.
Eddie was only brought on in the last few minutes.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on February 15, 2010, 02:42:42 PM
Poor performance on saturday especially the second half.  Very disappointed with the workrate up front they seem to let their men run up the field an awful lot.  Our gameplan from the Roscommon was never gonna work as Antrim dropped men back into the spaces where Nesty was looking to pass into for our forwards to run and collect.  I suppose Clarke and Cahill could have eased back on going forward - bringing more men into their half of the field.

On another note and don't all jump on me for defending my clubman, the centre forward for Antrim McCann got 1 -3 but John was never marking him.  He lined out at wing back from the start and his man was Pollock and didn't do a whole pile.  So I don't think he played as bad as some of ye are making out.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on February 15, 2010, 06:10:32 PM
Quote from: Celt_Man on February 15, 2010, 02:42:42 PM
Poor performance on saturday especially the second half.  Very disappointed with the workrate up front they seem to let their men run up the field an awful lot.  Our gameplan from the Roscommon was never gonna work as Antrim dropped men back into the spaces where Nesty was looking to pass into for our forwards to run and collect.  I suppose Clarke and Cahill could have eased back on going forward - bringing more men into their half of the field.

On another note and don't all jump on me for defending my clubman, the centre forward for Antrim McCann got 1 -3 but John was never marking him.  He lined out at wing back from the start and his man was Pollock and didn't do a whole pile.  So I don't think he played as bad as some of ye are making out.

He wasnt anywhere closed to the worst Celt Man,But seeing as McCutcheon's emergence was probably the one shining light of last years entire campaign,he wasnt up to the standard which we have come to expect from him.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on February 15, 2010, 07:04:08 PM
It's true that he wasn't centre-back but I thought he was way off his man on a number of ocassions. As I said and BH Man mentioned he was player you were glad to see on the team for plenty of reasons but I thought he was poor the other night.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Western Blue on February 15, 2010, 07:19:41 PM
Terrible 2nd half team performance  last Sat.
The forwards looked to be knackered as they were not looking for the ball and stopped making any runs when we had possession. I have been waiting for N.Walsh to mature into role of been solid  midfielder and show some leadership with the retirement of McCabe but last Sat performance from him was dire.  He should retire from inter county football as we are only going to play with 14 players for each game if he continues to be selected for this league campaign.
For a big man he touched the ball I would say SIX times in total between the Roscommon and Antrim game. He must realize himself he is not contributing.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on February 15, 2010, 07:20:06 PM
Carr talking shite in an article on Hoganstand

Cavan boss Tommy Carr afforded Antrim the height of praise after his side's dismantlement (1-8 to 2-13) by the Saffrons in their NFL Division Three clash on Saturday night last.

Carr said aspects of Antrim's play resembled that normally associated with Tyrone.

"We showed nothing of the passion and intensity and pace from the Roscommon game but we were caught a bit with the difference of standard between that game and this latest one.

"Antrim are a very good team and the difference in standard between Antrim and Roscommon was there for all to see.

"They moved the ball well and there was a level of physicality about them that we found difficult to handle.

"Antrim did a lot of running from midfield and their number 11 was full of business.

"They were very aggressive in their running - perpetual running - and in that respect they looked like Tyrone but we knew before the game that it would be more like a Tyrone game than a Roscommon game."



He might be better served trying to implement some sort of similar system to what Baker Bradley has and coming up with ways to counteract how Antrim have ran straight through our defense like it wasnt there,the last twice we've met them,Instead of saying nice things about the opposition. f**k sake  ::)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on February 15, 2010, 07:24:15 PM
Quote from: Western Blue on February 15, 2010, 07:19:41 PM
Terrible 2nd half team performance  last Sat.
The forwards looked to be knackered as they were not looking for the ball and stopped making any runs when we had possession. I have been waiting for N.Walsh to mature into role of been solid  midfielder and show some leadership with the retirement of McCabe but last Sat performance from him was dire.  He should retire from inter county football as we are only going to play with 14 players for each game if he continues to be selected for this league campaign.
For a big man he touched the ball I would say SIX times in total between the Roscommon and Antrim game. He must realize himself he is not contributing.

Good analysis WB
Hes only The Gaels third best midfielder after Sean Reily and Cathal Collins (when he plays there)
i cant remember a game that hes stood out as being genuinely IC material.
Slag Ciaran Galligan all you want,but the guy contributes some points from play and good athleticism even if he wont catch 4 or 5 clean balls a game,Walsh doesnt have the athleticism to do that,Case in point Paddy Keenan running him ragged in Drogheda last year when he carried the ball at speed.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on February 15, 2010, 07:25:24 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on February 15, 2010, 07:20:06 PM
Carr talking shite in an article on Hoganstand

Cavan boss Tommy Carr afforded Antrim the height of praise after his side's dismantlement (1-8 to 2-13) by the Saffrons in their NFL Division Three clash on Saturday night last.

Carr said aspects of Antrim's play resembled that normally associated with Tyrone.

"We showed nothing of the passion and intensity and pace from the Roscommon game but we were caught a bit with the difference of standard between that game and this latest one.

"Antrim are a very good team and the difference in standard between Antrim and Roscommon was there for all to see.

"They moved the ball well and there was a level of physicality about them that we found difficult to handle.

"Antrim did a lot of running from midfield and their number 11 was full of business.

"They were very aggressive in their running - perpetual running - and in that respect they looked like Tyrone but we knew before the game that it would be more like a Tyrone game than a Roscommon game."



He might be better served trying to implement some sort of similar system to what Baker Bradley has and coming up with ways to counteract how Antrim have ran straight through our defense like it wasnt there,the last twice we've met them,Instead of saying nice things about the opposition. f**k sake  ::)

I think Carr is threading water. He has made zero effort to find new talent and seems to me to be interested in doing the minimum to collect his cheque, oh sorry expenses, each week. Another bucko thats never out of the media talking bullshit. Last week he was saying that he wanted back to back wins to prove consistency and this week we might as well have been playing Tyrone.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on February 15, 2010, 07:27:29 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on February 15, 2010, 07:24:15 PM
Quote from: Western Blue on February 15, 2010, 07:19:41 PM
Terrible 2nd half team performance  last Sat.
The forwards looked to be knackered as they were not looking for the ball and stopped making any runs when we had possession. I have been waiting for N.Walsh to mature into role of been solid  midfielder and show some leadership with the retirement of McCabe but last Sat performance from him was dire.  He should retire from inter county football as we are only going to play with 14 players for each game if he continues to be selected for this league campaign.
For a big man he touched the ball I would say SIX times in total between the Roscommon and Antrim game. He must realize himself he is not contributing.

Good analysis WB
Hes only The Gaels third best midfielder after Sean Reily and Cathal Collins (when he plays there)
i cant remember a game that hes stood out as being genuinely IC material.
Slag Ciaran Galligan all you want,but the guy contributes some points from play and good athleticism even if he wont catch 4 or 5 clean balls a game,Walsh doesnt have the athleticism to do that,Case in point Paddy Keenan running him ragged in Drogheda last year when he carried the ball at speed.

Walsh looks to me to be a lad doing the wrong training, He has too much muscle on which seems to have slowed him down. Its not Aussie rules he is playing now and it is a shame. I have time for Ciaran Galligan and at least when he plays you know you have someone who will run after players and will cover ground.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on February 15, 2010, 07:37:14 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on February 15, 2010, 07:25:24 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on February 15, 2010, 07:20:06 PM
Carr talking shite in an article on Hoganstand

Cavan boss Tommy Carr afforded Antrim the height of praise after his side's dismantlement (1-8 to 2-13) by the Saffrons in their NFL Division Three clash on Saturday night last.

Carr said aspects of Antrim's play resembled that normally associated with Tyrone.

"We showed nothing of the passion and intensity and pace from the Roscommon game but we were caught a bit with the difference of standard between that game and this latest one.

"Antrim are a very good team and the difference in standard between Antrim and Roscommon was there for all to see.

"They moved the ball well and there was a level of physicality about them that we found difficult to handle.

"Antrim did a lot of running from midfield and their number 11 was full of business.

"They were very aggressive in their running - perpetual running - and in that respect they looked like Tyrone but we knew before the game that it would be more like a Tyrone game than a Roscommon game."



He might be better served trying to implement some sort of similar system to what Baker Bradley has and coming up with ways to counteract how Antrim have ran straight through our defense like it wasnt there,the last twice we've met them,Instead of saying nice things about the opposition. f**k sake  ::)

I think Carr is threading water. He has made zero effort to find new talent and seems to me to be interested in doing the minimum to collect his cheque, oh sorry expenses, each week. Another bucko thats never out of the media talking bullshit. Last week he was saying that he wanted back to back wins to prove consistency and this week we might as well have been playing Tyrone.

Ahh hold on there.  He has given debuts to Corr, Clarke, McGuigan, Nesty, Eoin Smith, the other Denn corner back who's name escapes me this year already.

Carr has an extremely young squad at the minute and in my opinion results like Saturday and up & down performances can so easily happen without senior members within a squad.

Can anyone tell me who the senior members are, who would be talking to the young fellas giving them advice and encouraging them?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on February 15, 2010, 07:39:56 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on February 15, 2010, 07:27:29 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on February 15, 2010, 07:24:15 PM
Quote from: Western Blue on February 15, 2010, 07:19:41 PM
Terrible 2nd half team performance  last Sat.
The forwards looked to be knackered as they were not looking for the ball and stopped making any runs when we had possession. I have been waiting for N.Walsh to mature into role of been solid  midfielder and show some leadership with the retirement of McCabe but last Sat performance from him was dire.  He should retire from inter county football as we are only going to play with 14 players for each game if he continues to be selected for this league campaign.
For a big man he touched the ball I would say SIX times in total between the Roscommon and Antrim game. He must realize himself he is not contributing.

Good analysis WB
Hes only The Gaels third best midfielder after Sean Reily and Cathal Collins (when he plays there)
i cant remember a game that hes stood out as being genuinely IC material.
Slag Ciaran Galligan all you want,but the guy contributes some points from play and good athleticism even if he wont catch 4 or 5 clean balls a game,Walsh doesnt have the athleticism to do that,Case in point Paddy Keenan running him ragged in Drogheda last year when he carried the ball at speed.

Walsh looks to me to be a lad doing the wrong training, He has too much muscle on which seems to have slowed him down. Its not Aussie rules he is playing now and it is a shame. I have time for Ciaran Galligan and at least when he plays you know you have someone who will run after players and will cover ground.

i dont know if thats the problem,im sure Walsh is in probably better shape than any other player on the Cavan team,with regards body fat levels etc.
He has a great leap and good hands,i just dont understand why he will not try and catch the ball,he goes to break it 90% of the time.Different midfielders like Neil Gallagher etc arent the most mobile but they are there just to win posession,Walsh would be well worth his place on the team if he could contribute 2/3 clean catches per game.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on February 15, 2010, 07:45:37 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on February 15, 2010, 07:39:56 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on February 15, 2010, 07:27:29 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on February 15, 2010, 07:24:15 PM
Quote from: Western Blue on February 15, 2010, 07:19:41 PM
Terrible 2nd half team performance  last Sat.
The forwards looked to be knackered as they were not looking for the ball and stopped making any runs when we had possession. I have been waiting for N.Walsh to mature into role of been solid  midfielder and show some leadership with the retirement of McCabe but last Sat performance from him was dire.  He should retire from inter county football as we are only going to play with 14 players for each game if he continues to be selected for this league campaign.
For a big man he touched the ball I would say SIX times in total between the Roscommon and Antrim game. He must realize himself he is not contributing.

Good analysis WB
Hes only The Gaels third best midfielder after Sean Reily and Cathal Collins (when he plays there)
i cant remember a game that hes stood out as being genuinely IC material.
Slag Ciaran Galligan all you want,but the guy contributes some points from play and good athleticism even if he wont catch 4 or 5 clean balls a game,Walsh doesnt have the athleticism to do that,Case in point Paddy Keenan running him ragged in Drogheda last year when he carried the ball at speed.

Walsh looks to me to be a lad doing the wrong training, He has too much muscle on which seems to have slowed him down. Its not Aussie rules he is playing now and it is a shame. I have time for Ciaran Galligan and at least when he plays you know you have someone who will run after players and will cover ground.

i dont know if thats the problem,im sure Walsh is in probably better shape than any other player on the Cavan team,with regards body fat levels etc.
He has a great leap and good hands,i just dont understand why he will not try and catch the ball,he goes to break it 90% of the time.Different midfielders like Neil Gallagher etc arent the most mobile but they are there just to win posession,Walsh would be well worth his place on the team if he could contribute 2/3 clean catches per game.

Team instructions??  A few times at games this year I have heard that coming from the line... a response to the new mark rule perhaps
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on February 15, 2010, 07:49:02 PM
Quote from: Celt_Man on February 15, 2010, 07:45:37 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on February 15, 2010, 07:39:56 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on February 15, 2010, 07:27:29 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on February 15, 2010, 07:24:15 PM
Quote from: Western Blue on February 15, 2010, 07:19:41 PM
Terrible 2nd half team performance  last Sat.
The forwards looked to be knackered as they were not looking for the ball and stopped making any runs when we had possession. I have been waiting for N.Walsh to mature into role of been solid  midfielder and show some leadership with the retirement of McCabe but last Sat performance from him was dire.  He should retire from inter county football as we are only going to play with 14 players for each game if he continues to be selected for this league campaign.
For a big man he touched the ball I would say SIX times in total between the Roscommon and Antrim game. He must realize himself he is not contributing.

Good analysis WB
Hes only The Gaels third best midfielder after Sean Reily and Cathal Collins (when he plays there)
i cant remember a game that hes stood out as being genuinely IC material.
Slag Ciaran Galligan all you want,but the guy contributes some points from play and good athleticism even if he wont catch 4 or 5 clean balls a game,Walsh doesnt have the athleticism to do that,Case in point Paddy Keenan running him ragged in Drogheda last year when he carried the ball at speed.

Walsh looks to me to be a lad doing the wrong training, He has too much muscle on which seems to have slowed him down. Its not Aussie rules he is playing now and it is a shame. I have time for Ciaran Galligan and at least when he plays you know you have someone who will run after players and will cover ground.

i dont know if thats the problem,im sure Walsh is in probably better shape than any other player on the Cavan team,with regards body fat levels etc.
He has a great leap and good hands,i just dont understand why he will not try and catch the ball,he goes to break it 90% of the time.Different midfielders like Neil Gallagher etc arent the most mobile but they are there just to win posession,Walsh would be well worth his place on the team if he could contribute 2/3 clean catches per game.

Team instructions??  A few times at games this year I have heard that coming from the line... a response to the new mark rule perhaps

If its team instructions,the management ought to have realised by now, after about 15 months on the job its not working.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on February 15, 2010, 08:20:39 PM
Quote from: Celt_Man on February 15, 2010, 07:37:14 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on February 15, 2010, 07:25:24 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on February 15, 2010, 07:20:06 PM
Carr talking shite in an article on Hoganstand

Cavan boss Tommy Carr afforded Antrim the height of praise after his side's dismantlement (1-8 to 2-13) by the Saffrons in their NFL Division Three clash on Saturday night last.

Carr said aspects of Antrim's play resembled that normally associated with Tyrone.

"We showed nothing of the passion and intensity and pace from the Roscommon game but we were caught a bit with the difference of standard between that game and this latest one.

"Antrim are a very good team and the difference in standard between Antrim and Roscommon was there for all to see.

"They moved the ball well and there was a level of physicality about them that we found difficult to handle.

"Antrim did a lot of running from midfield and their number 11 was full of business.

"They were very aggressive in their running - perpetual running - and in that respect they looked like Tyrone but we knew before the game that it would be more like a Tyrone game than a Roscommon game."



He might be better served trying to implement some sort of similar system to what Baker Bradley has and coming up with ways to counteract how Antrim have ran straight through our defense like it wasnt there,the last twice we've met them,Instead of saying nice things about the opposition. f**k sake  ::)

I think Carr is threading water. He has made zero effort to find new talent and seems to me to be interested in doing the minimum to collect his cheque, oh sorry expenses, each week. Another bucko thats never out of the media talking bullshit. Last week he was saying that he wanted back to back wins to prove consistency and this week we might as well have been playing Tyrone.

Ahh hold on there.  He has given debuts to Corr, Clarke, McGuigan, Nesty, Eoin Smith, the other Denn corner back who's name escapes me this year already.

Carr has an extremely young squad at the minute and in my opinion results like Saturday and up & down performances can so easily happen without senior members within a squad.

Can anyone tell me who the senior members are, who would be talking to the young fellas giving them advice and encouraging them?

What I mean is he wasn't at a club game all year and when quizzed on it he reckoned he didn't need to because the regional trials would show up the best players. We all know what happened them. So any new players he has were recommended to him. Maybe it is just me but a manager like him should be realising that the older group of players need replacing and his top priority should be to scour the county for new players. Maybe he has the best in there now but its not through any work he did to find them.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: beer baron on February 15, 2010, 08:29:02 PM
Someone mentioned there why does walsh not try catch the ball more?No one notice that he has no timing at all whatsoever and has usually jumped and landed before the ball arrives?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4sam on February 15, 2010, 09:07:24 PM
Lads did anyone else find it commical when Walsh went down pretending to be injured after he kicked a terrible ball across the sideline?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Western Blue on February 15, 2010, 10:25:53 PM
I am sick and tired of reading about the great players with Cavan Gaels and the contribution they would make if they were playing with the county..
Its quite obvious to me and I don't live in the county any more but from my enquires made their key players have been asked by the present and past manager to join the squad but for personal and selfish reasons their not interested
. So forget about Duffy,Rabitte Reilly etc as their not prepared to contribute anything to the improvement of our County Team but just play for their beloved Gaels in the hope of winning a Ulster/All Ireland Club title......dream on lads !!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on February 15, 2010, 11:12:01 PM
Quote from: cavan4sam on February 15, 2010, 09:07:24 PM
Lads did anyone else find it commical when Walsh went down pretending to be injured after he kicked a terrible ball across the sideline?

that was pretty funny alright ;D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on February 15, 2010, 11:13:33 PM
Quote from: Western Blue on February 15, 2010, 10:25:53 PM
I am sick and tired of reading about the great players with Cavan Gaels and the contribution they would make if they were playing with the county..
Its quite obvious to me and I don't live in the county any more but from my enquires made their key players have been asked by the present and past manager to join the squad but for personal and selfish reasons their not interested
. So forget about Duffy,Rabitte Reilly etc as their not prepared to contribute anything to the improvement of our County Team but just play for their beloved Gaels in the hope of winning a Ulster/All Ireland Club title......dream on lads !!
You're right,Its a shame though that some of our best players in club football wont play for the county such as 4/5 of the gaels lads,Trevor Crowe of Lacken etc, but as you say no point harping on and on about it.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on February 16, 2010, 12:36:38 AM
No point in trying to force a lad to play. You need them to want to be part of a team and hungry for success. Clearly none that Gaels lads feel like that so just forget about them. It's not as if any of them are world-beaters anyway. There average enough players in IC terms.

Have we progressed at all in Carr's tenure?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on February 16, 2010, 08:22:45 AM
Quote from: put-it-up on February 16, 2010, 12:36:38 AM
No point in trying to force a lad to play. You need them to want to be part of a team and hungry for success. Clearly none that Gaels lads feel like that so just forget about them. It's not as if any of them are world-beaters anyway. There average enough players in IC terms.

Have we progressed at all in Carr's tenure?

I'd give him to  the end of the year but I don't think we have. With the exception of a spirited display against Down in Newry (league) and Fermanagh in Breffni (championship) we have looked flat and lacking in motivation. For me thats always a bad sign, because no matter who you put out to play and even if they are substandard players, they should be motivated and raring to go.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: nothingbettertobeat on February 16, 2010, 11:09:30 AM
the demise of the cavan senior team in recent years has saddened me. Goes to show you nowadays that player power is taking over. players choosing not to play for their county is disgrace, down through the years it was always the greatest honour as a player to represent his county team now people are turning the chance down. im not from cavan but have cum on express my views. this may hurt a few people me saying this but they are now probably the weakest ulster team by quite a distance.
have they any good minors or potential talent cuming through?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: full moon on February 16, 2010, 01:24:35 PM
There is some talent coming through from previous minors and U21 teams. But as well know, makeing the step into senior football is a big one. And from what I have heard this years minor team will not be going too far in the championship.

In my opinion coaching at underage levels leaves alot to be desired. Too many coaches with agendas and I would even use the word nepotism to describe some of the antics I have seen. Men taking charge of teams with no experience just so they can play their son and nephews in the team. I think that behaviour is disgraceful. Would you find that sort of crap in Tyrone or some of the leading counties? Not a chance.

Questions should also be asked about how some teams are allowed amalgamate. Such as Baileborogh and Shercock last year who went on to win the minor championship. 2 big towns with more than enough players for their respective teams. Baileborough with the same players who won several division 1 titles in u16,14 etc. It is beyond belief how a club team of that stature can be granted an amalgamation. And then they are up against smaller club sides like Ballyhaise and Lavey. How can that be fair?

I honestly am fed up with Cavan football from the county team to underage club games, there is so many problems and nobody willing to fix them.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on February 16, 2010, 01:49:28 PM
Quote from: full moon on February 16, 2010, 01:24:35 PM
There is some talent coming through from previous minors and U21 teams. But as well know, makeing the step into senior football is a big one. And from what I have heard this years minor team will not be going too far in the championship.

In my opinion coaching at underage levels leaves alot to be desired. Too many coaches with agendas and I would even use the word nepotism to describe some of the antics I have seen. Men taking charge of teams with no experience just so they can play their son and nephews in the team. I think that behaviour is disgraceful. Would you find that sort of crap in Tyrone or some of the leading counties? Not a chance.

Questions should also be asked about how some teams are allowed amalgamate. Such as Baileborogh and Shercock last year who went on to win the minor championship. 2 big towns with more than enough players for their respective teams. Baileborough with the same players who won several division 1 titles in u16,14 etc. It is beyond belief how a club team of that stature can be granted an amalgamation. And then they are up against smaller club sides like Ballyhaise and Lavey. How can that be fair?

I honestly am fed up with Cavan football from the county team to underage club games, there is so many problems and nobody willing to fix them.

Going to have to take you up on that point New Moon because as a Bailieborough man I have a serious problem with it.

Last year, was the fourth year we amalgamated with Shercock under the name Killann Gaels. Nobody complained the previous three years when we had two first round exits. I for one don't like to see my own club amalgamating and in an ideal world we wouldn't have too.

The fact is Cavan Gaels had dominated the minor championship for ten years and amalgamtions were introduced to try and put a stop to that. And when a team does, they are criticized for amalgamating.

I can also assure that numbers were a big problem for club at minor level over the last number of years and I know for a fact for two of the years, without the addition of some Shercock lads we would not have been able to field a team.

The two clubs made an agreement to amalgamate for three years and see if anything would come of it and it did. If the county board do decide they want to persist with amalgamations such as Drumbride, then they have to give them time. Rarely will they click straight away.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: full moon on February 16, 2010, 02:12:07 PM
Quote from: put-it-up on February 16, 2010, 01:49:28 PM
Quote from: full moon on February 16, 2010, 01:24:35 PM
There is some talent coming through from previous minors and U21 teams. But as well know, makeing the step into senior football is a big one. And from what I have heard this years minor team will not be going too far in the championship.

In my opinion coaching at underage levels leaves alot to be desired. Too many coaches with agendas and I would even use the word nepotism to describe some of the antics I have seen. Men taking charge of teams with no experience just so they can play their son and nephews in the team. I think that behaviour is disgraceful. Would you find that sort of crap in Tyrone or some of the leading counties? Not a chance.

Questions should also be asked about how some teams are allowed amalgamate. Such as Baileborogh and Shercock last year who went on to win the minor championship. 2 big towns with more than enough players for their respective teams. Baileborough with the same players who won several division 1 titles in u16,14 etc. It is beyond belief how a club team of that stature can be granted an amalgamation. And then they are up against smaller club sides like Ballyhaise and Lavey. How can that be fair?

I honestly am fed up with Cavan football from the county team to underage club games, there is so many problems and nobody willing to fix them.

Going to have to take you up on that point New Moon because as a Bailieborough man I have a serious problem with it.

Last year, was the fourth year we amalgamated with Shercock under the name Killann Gaels. Nobody complained the previous three years when we had two first round exits. I for one don't like to see my own club amalgamating and in an ideal world we wouldn't have too.

The fact is Cavan Gaels had dominated the minor championship for ten years and amalgamtions were introduced to try and put a stop to that. And when a team does, they are criticized for amalgamating.

I can also assure that numbers were a big problem for club at minor level over the last number of years and I know for a fact for two of the years, without the addition of some Shercock lads we would not have been able to field a team.

The two clubs made an agreement to amalgamate for three years and see if anything would come of it and it did. If the county board do decide they want to persist with amalgamations such as Drumbride, then they have to give them time. Rarely will they click straight away.

I hear what you are saying put it up. But I think amalgamations should be done on a year by year and case by case basis. Sure maybe Shercock and BB needed to join up in previous years to get numbers.

Last year though they certainly both had the numbers and BB themselves were one of the best teams in division 1 already. They just underperformed in the league and questions could have been raised as to whether they took the league seriously enough in order to get their amalgamation for the Championship.

BB were in my opinion the 2nd best minor team in the county last year, they didn't need to amalgamate for the Championship.
And yes it was good to see an end to the Gaels dominance at minor level but I don't think there was any danger of their team last year winning the Championship anyway.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on February 16, 2010, 02:12:46 PM
Quote from: put-it-up on February 16, 2010, 01:49:28 PM
Quote from: full moon on February 16, 2010, 01:24:35 PM
There is some talent coming through from previous minors and U21 teams. But as well know, makeing the step into senior football is a big one. And from what I have heard this years minor team will not be going too far in the championship.

In my opinion coaching at underage levels leaves alot to be desired. Too many coaches with agendas and I would even use the word nepotism to describe some of the antics I have seen. Men taking charge of teams with no experience just so they can play their son and nephews in the team. I think that behaviour is disgraceful. Would you find that sort of crap in Tyrone or some of the leading counties? Not a chance.

Questions should also be asked about how some teams are allowed amalgamate. Such as Baileborogh and Shercock last year who went on to win the minor championship. 2 big towns with more than enough players for their respective teams. Baileborough with the same players who won several division 1 titles in u16,14 etc. It is beyond belief how a club team of that stature can be granted an amalgamation. And then they are up against smaller club sides like Ballyhaise and Lavey. How can that be fair?

I honestly am fed up with Cavan football from the county team to underage club games, there is so many problems and nobody willing to fix them.

Going to have to take you up on that point New Moon because as a Bailieborough man I have a serious problem with it.

Last year, was the fourth year we amalgamated with Shercock under the name Killann Gaels. Nobody complained the previous three years when we had two first round exits. I for one don't like to see my own club amalgamating and in an ideal world we wouldn't have too.

The fact is Cavan Gaels had dominated the minor championship for ten years and amalgamtions were introduced to try and put a stop to that. And when a team does, they are criticized for amalgamating.

I can also assure that numbers were a big problem for club at minor level over the last number of years and I know for a fact for two of the years, without the addition of some Shercock lads we would not have been able to field a team.

The two clubs made an agreement to amalgamate for three years and see if anything would come of it and it did. If the county board do decide they want to persist with amalgamations such as Drumbride, then they have to give them time. Rarely will they click straight away.

I argee with ya totally there put-it-up.  Kilann is just an easy target to give out about.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on February 16, 2010, 02:13:38 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on February 15, 2010, 08:20:39 PM
Quote from: Celt_Man on February 15, 2010, 07:37:14 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on February 15, 2010, 07:25:24 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on February 15, 2010, 07:20:06 PM
Carr talking shite in an article on Hoganstand

Cavan boss Tommy Carr afforded Antrim the height of praise after his side's dismantlement (1-8 to 2-13) by the Saffrons in their NFL Division Three clash on Saturday night last.

Carr said aspects of Antrim's play resembled that normally associated with Tyrone.

"We showed nothing of the passion and intensity and pace from the Roscommon game but we were caught a bit with the difference of standard between that game and this latest one.

"Antrim are a very good team and the difference in standard between Antrim and Roscommon was there for all to see.

"They moved the ball well and there was a level of physicality about them that we found difficult to handle.

"Antrim did a lot of running from midfield and their number 11 was full of business.

"They were very aggressive in their running - perpetual running - and in that respect they looked like Tyrone but we knew before the game that it would be more like a Tyrone game than a Roscommon game."



He might be better served trying to implement some sort of similar system to what Baker Bradley has and coming up with ways to counteract how Antrim have ran straight through our defense like it wasnt there,the last twice we've met them,Instead of saying nice things about the opposition. f**k sake  ::)

I think Carr is threading water. He has made zero effort to find new talent and seems to me to be interested in doing the minimum to collect his cheque, oh sorry expenses, each week. Another bucko thats never out of the media talking bullshit. Last week he was saying that he wanted back to back wins to prove consistency and this week we might as well have been playing Tyrone.

Ahh hold on there.  He has given debuts to Corr, Clarke, McGuigan, Nesty, Eoin Smith, the other Denn corner back who's name escapes me this year already.

Carr has an extremely young squad at the minute and in my opinion results like Saturday and up & down performances can so easily happen without senior members within a squad.

Can anyone tell me who the senior members are, who would be talking to the young fellas giving them advice and encouraging them?

What I mean is he wasn't at a club game all year and when quizzed on it he reckoned he didn't need to because the regional trials would show up the best players. We all know what happened them. So any new players he has were recommended to him. Maybe it is just me but a manager like him should be realising that the older group of players need replacing and his top priority should be to scour the county for new players. Maybe he has the best in there now but its not through any work he did to find them.

I saw him at plenty of games last year... let's just not go over the top on this one
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on February 16, 2010, 02:30:48 PM
Quote from: full moon on February 16, 2010, 02:12:07 PM
Quote from: put-it-up on February 16, 2010, 01:49:28 PM
Quote from: full moon on February 16, 2010, 01:24:35 PM
There is some talent coming through from previous minors and U21 teams. But as well know, makeing the step into senior football is a big one. And from what I have heard this years minor team will not be going too far in the championship.

In my opinion coaching at underage levels leaves alot to be desired. Too many coaches with agendas and I would even use the word nepotism to describe some of the antics I have seen. Men taking charge of teams with no experience just so they can play their son and nephews in the team. I think that behaviour is disgraceful. Would you find that sort of crap in Tyrone or some of the leading counties? Not a chance.

Questions should also be asked about how some teams are allowed amalgamate. Such as Baileborogh and Shercock last year who went on to win the minor championship. 2 big towns with more than enough players for their respective teams. Baileborough with the same players who won several division 1 titles in u16,14 etc. It is beyond belief how a club team of that stature can be granted an amalgamation. And then they are up against smaller club sides like Ballyhaise and Lavey. How can that be fair?

I honestly am fed up with Cavan football from the county team to underage club games, there is so many problems and nobody willing to fix them.

Going to have to take you up on that point New Moon because as a Bailieborough man I have a serious problem with it.

Last year, was the fourth year we amalgamated with Shercock under the name Killann Gaels. Nobody complained the previous three years when we had two first round exits. I for one don't like to see my own club amalgamating and in an ideal world we wouldn't have too.

The fact is Cavan Gaels had dominated the minor championship for ten years and amalgamtions were introduced to try and put a stop to that. And when a team does, they are criticized for amalgamating.

I can also assure that numbers were a big problem for club at minor level over the last number of years and I know for a fact for two of the years, without the addition of some Shercock lads we would not have been able to field a team.

The two clubs made an agreement to amalgamate for three years and see if anything would come of it and it did. If the county board do decide they want to persist with amalgamations such as Drumbride, then they have to give them time. Rarely will they click straight away.

I hear what you are saying put it up. But I think amalgamations should be done on a year by year and case by case basis. Sure maybe Shercock and BB needed to join up in previous years to get numbers.

Last year though they certainly both had the numbers and BB themselves were one of the best teams in division 1 already. They just underperformed in the league and questions could have been raised as to whether they took the league seriously enough in order to get their amalgamation for the Championship.

BB were in my opinion the 2nd best minor team in the county last year, they didn't need to amalgamate for the Championship.
And yes it was good to see an end to the Gaels dominance at minor level but I don't think there was any danger of their team last year winning the Championship anyway.

Correct me if I am wrong but I don't think they won one game in the league and are you actually suggestion that they went out looking to lose? Are you having a giraffe? I suppose they were backing the other team in Sean Shields as well before they went down to the park...give me a break ;D.

I can guarantee you without the Shercock lads, there would have been a game or two that Bailieborough would not have been able to field 15 lads.

And anyway the fact that they won the minor championship doesn't concern me. What concerns me, is an amalgamated side from our county got hammered in the Paul McGirr tournament. That there is the problem, not the amalgamation.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on February 16, 2010, 02:34:03 PM
Quote from: Celt_Man on February 16, 2010, 02:13:38 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on February 15, 2010, 08:20:39 PM
Quote from: Celt_Man on February 15, 2010, 07:37:14 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on February 15, 2010, 07:25:24 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on February 15, 2010, 07:20:06 PM
Carr talking shite in an article on Hoganstand

Cavan boss Tommy Carr afforded Antrim the height of praise after his side's dismantlement (1-8 to 2-13) by the Saffrons in their NFL Division Three clash on Saturday night last.

Carr said aspects of Antrim's play resembled that normally associated with Tyrone.

"We showed nothing of the passion and intensity and pace from the Roscommon game but we were caught a bit with the difference of standard between that game and this latest one.

"Antrim are a very good team and the difference in standard between Antrim and Roscommon was there for all to see.

"They moved the ball well and there was a level of physicality about them that we found difficult to handle.

"Antrim did a lot of running from midfield and their number 11 was full of business.

"They were very aggressive in their running - perpetual running - and in that respect they looked like Tyrone but we knew before the game that it would be more like a Tyrone game than a Roscommon game."



He might be better served trying to implement some sort of similar system to what Baker Bradley has and coming up with ways to counteract how Antrim have ran straight through our defense like it wasnt there,the last twice we've met them,Instead of saying nice things about the opposition. f**k sake  ::)

I think Carr is threading water. He has made zero effort to find new talent and seems to me to be interested in doing the minimum to collect his cheque, oh sorry expenses, each week. Another bucko thats never out of the media talking bullshit. Last week he was saying that he wanted back to back wins to prove consistency and this week we might as well have been playing Tyrone.

Ahh hold on there.  He has given debuts to Corr, Clarke, McGuigan, Nesty, Eoin Smith, the other Denn corner back who's name escapes me this year already.

Carr has an extremely young squad at the minute and in my opinion results like Saturday and up & down performances can so easily happen without senior members within a squad.

Can anyone tell me who the senior members are, who would be talking to the young fellas giving them advice and encouraging them?

What I mean is he wasn't at a club game all year and when quizzed on it he reckoned he didn't need to because the regional trials would show up the best players. We all know what happened them. So any new players he has were recommended to him. Maybe it is just me but a manager like him should be realising that the older group of players need replacing and his top priority should be to scour the county for new players. Maybe he has the best in there now but its not through any work he did to find them.

I saw him at plenty of games last year... let's just not go over the top on this one

I would love to know how many club grounds TC has been to!

I know we have a fairly limited bunch at the minute but I honestly don't think we are getting as much out of them as we can.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on February 16, 2010, 02:35:54 PM
Quote from: put-it-up on February 16, 2010, 02:34:03 PM
Quote from: Celt_Man on February 16, 2010, 02:13:38 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on February 15, 2010, 08:20:39 PM
Quote from: Celt_Man on February 15, 2010, 07:37:14 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on February 15, 2010, 07:25:24 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on February 15, 2010, 07:20:06 PM
Carr talking shite in an article on Hoganstand

Cavan boss Tommy Carr afforded Antrim the height of praise after his side's dismantlement (1-8 to 2-13) by the Saffrons in their NFL Division Three clash on Saturday night last.

Carr said aspects of Antrim's play resembled that normally associated with Tyrone.

"We showed nothing of the passion and intensity and pace from the Roscommon game but we were caught a bit with the difference of standard between that game and this latest one.

"Antrim are a very good team and the difference in standard between Antrim and Roscommon was there for all to see.

"They moved the ball well and there was a level of physicality about them that we found difficult to handle.

"Antrim did a lot of running from midfield and their number 11 was full of business.

"They were very aggressive in their running - perpetual running - and in that respect they looked like Tyrone but we knew before the game that it would be more like a Tyrone game than a Roscommon game."



He might be better served trying to implement some sort of similar system to what Baker Bradley has and coming up with ways to counteract how Antrim have ran straight through our defense like it wasnt there,the last twice we've met them,Instead of saying nice things about the opposition. f**k sake  ::)

I think Carr is threading water. He has made zero effort to find new talent and seems to me to be interested in doing the minimum to collect his cheque, oh sorry expenses, each week. Another bucko thats never out of the media talking bullshit. Last week he was saying that he wanted back to back wins to prove consistency and this week we might as well have been playing Tyrone.

Ahh hold on there.  He has given debuts to Corr, Clarke, McGuigan, Nesty, Eoin Smith, the other Denn corner back who's name escapes me this year already.

Carr has an extremely young squad at the minute and in my opinion results like Saturday and up & down performances can so easily happen without senior members within a squad.

Can anyone tell me who the senior members are, who would be talking to the young fellas giving them advice and encouraging them?

What I mean is he wasn't at a club game all year and when quizzed on it he reckoned he didn't need to because the regional trials would show up the best players. We all know what happened them. So any new players he has were recommended to him. Maybe it is just me but a manager like him should be realising that the older group of players need replacing and his top priority should be to scour the county for new players. Maybe he has the best in there now but its not through any work he did to find them.

I saw him at plenty of games last year... let's just not go over the top on this one

I would love to know how many club grounds TC has been to!

I know we have a fairly limited bunch at the minute but I honestly don't think we are getting as much out of them as we can.

Well I saw him at a fair few games in Breffni anyway but yea I would agree that we're not getting the best out of them consistently
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on February 16, 2010, 02:39:01 PM
Ah i know he went to Breffni alright, but does that mean he was just going to watch whatever games were on in the park?

Yeah I know were no worldbeaters, but there is definetly more out of are boys if they were willing to work harder for 70 mins and designed a game-plan to suit there strengths rather than playing like 15 individual footballers as Cavan have done in previous years.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on February 16, 2010, 03:33:46 PM
Two games in.

Very good in the first one but against limited (except D Shine) opposition.

Good first half in the second half but were pants in the second half.

Lets see how things are when we get the Sigerson ad Walsh cups over and done with.

Am I being over optimistic?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on February 16, 2010, 04:01:11 PM
Quote from: Denn Forever on February 16, 2010, 03:33:46 PM
Two games in.

Very good in the first one but against limited (except D Shine) opposition.

Good first half in the second half but were pants in the second half.

Lets see how things are when we get the Sigerson ad Walsh cups over and done with.

Am I being over optimistic?

Not at all sure we're still in the promotion spots after 2 rounds!!!


Div 3    P    W    D    L    Dif    Pts
Antrim    2    2    0    0    9    4
Cavan    2    1    0    1    5    2
Offaly    2    1    0    1    2    2
Louth    2    1    0    1    1    2
Sligo            2    1    0    1    0    2
Wexford    2    1    0    1    -1    2
Fermanagh    2    1    0    1    -2    2
Roscommon    2    0    0    2    -14    0
       
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on February 16, 2010, 10:23:11 PM
Quote from: boojangles on February 09, 2010, 05:20:52 PM

Call me a bollix for saying so but we have 2 men from Junior clubs in the top positions in Senior and Youth football in Cavan and some of the decisions made are only aimed at helping Junior clubs,and not the overall standard of football in Cavan.

Heres more of it. 3 Amalgamated teams in Division 3 Minor-Yes Division 3.
Blackwater Gaels consisting of Maghera,Munterconnacht and Mountnugent.
Shannon Gaels and Templeport are together and Corlough,Swad and (was I hearing right??) Cornafean.
Cavan Football is on the UP.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dougal on February 16, 2010, 10:41:46 PM
Quote from: boojangles on February 16, 2010, 10:23:11 PM
Quote from: boojangles on February 09, 2010, 05:20:52 PM

Call me a bollix for saying so but we have 2 men from Junior clubs in the top positions in Senior and Youth football in Cavan and some of the decisions made are only aimed at helping Junior clubs,and not the overall standard of football in Cavan.

Heres more of it. 3 Amalgamated teams in Division 3 Minor-Yes Division 3.
Blackwater Gaels consisting of Maghera,Munterconnacht and Mountnugent.
Shannon Gaels and Templeport are together and Corlough,Swad and (was I hearing right??) Cornafean.
Cavan Football is on the UP.

yes cornacrieve.also i believe drumlane cant field a minor team so their 3 minors have gone to st.joes,the rest that are still u16 will be playing with templeport and shannon gaels.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: full moon on February 16, 2010, 11:57:31 PM
You think that is bad, one of the biggest clubs in the county don't even have a minor team this year. Mullahoran can't even get a team together for division 4. This is the same club that had 4-5 county minors last year and were in division 1. Where did those players go?
So a few of their players are playing with Gowna, one a county minor.

As has been said it is the same arrangement with Drumlane not fielding a team and giving the players they have left to St Joes, two town clubs that are already amalgamated.

How are the smaller clubs suppose to deal with these arrangements? Its hardly fair to the likes of Lavey and Ballyhaise. Again they were shortchanged last year with the minor amalgamations, as well as this year.

And lets not even go into the antics of some of these hyped up "development squads". Develop Walsh's ego and bank account more like. ::)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on February 17, 2010, 12:26:01 AM
Quote from: full moon on February 16, 2010, 11:57:31 PM
You think that is bad, one of the biggest clubs in the county don't even have a minor team this year. Mullahoran can't even get a team together for division 4. This is the same club that had 4-5 county minors last year and were in division 1. Where did those players go?
So a few of their players are playing with Gowna, one a county minor.

As has been said it is the same arrangement with Drumlane not fielding a team and giving the players they have left to St Joes, two town clubs that are already amalgamated.

How are the smaller clubs suppose to deal with these arrangements? Its hardly fair to the likes of Lavey and Ballyhaise. Again they were shortchanged last year with the minor amalgamations, as well as this year.

And lets not even go into the antics of some of these hyped up "development squads". Develop Walsh's ego and bank account more like. ::)

Heard about the Mullahoran situation alright.Unbelievable.
Amalgamation is the new buzz word in Cavan football.Its gonna solve all our problems.
Its not Location,Location,Location anymore Its Amalgamate,Amalgamate,Amalgamate. ::) ::)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on February 17, 2010, 10:58:42 AM
For a county of our size I think there are far too many clubs in Cavan. I would be interested to see statistics from other counties with clubs/population ratio..

Minor football is by far the hardest age-group to keep numbers up..College, drink, work, women. Boy's become independent and lose interest in it...been a problem for our club anyway.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dougal on February 17, 2010, 11:41:52 AM
the aul lad was talking to a lad in the mullahoran club a while back and he said they only have about 10 players between 12 and 18,so the future isnt looking good for them.

around 2500 clubs in the country /32 = in or around 78 clubs per county.i dont know about number of clubs compared to population.i doubt were much above average,but i do think there are too many clubs.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on February 17, 2010, 12:09:11 PM
Quote from: full moon on February 16, 2010, 11:57:31 PM
You think that is bad, one of the biggest clubs in the county don't even have a minor team this year. Mullahoran can't even get a team together for division 4. This is the same club that had 4-5 county minors last year and were in division 1. Where did those players go?
So a few of their players are playing with Gowna, one a county minor.

As has been said it is the same arrangement with Drumlane not fielding a team and giving the players they have left to St Joes, two town clubs that are already amalgamated.

How are the smaller clubs suppose to deal with these arrangements? Its hardly fair to the likes of Lavey and Ballyhaise. Again they were shortchanged last year with the minor amalgamations, as well as this year.

And lets not even go into the antics of some of these hyped up "development squads". Develop Walsh's ego and bank account more like. ::)

Right I'll take the bait, would care to develop this point further please?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dougal on February 17, 2010, 01:49:19 PM
keating conor smith an ado cole have supposedly been dropped from the u21 panel for drinking
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on February 17, 2010, 04:12:10 PM
That news about Mullahoran is absolutely staggering, it really is.

I'm a long time out of the county but in my teens they were literally teeming with players; the size of the parish and the population, plus the tradition there meant it couldn't be anything else.

What in the name of Jesus is after happening, it's still a rural parish where GAA should still be King and yet you have this apalling fall off in numbers at underage where it should be at its most vibrant.

Things in Cavan really are worse than they seem.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on February 17, 2010, 05:38:19 PM
From Anglo Celt

Board slates timing of Sigerson Cup


CAVAN county board chairman Tom Reilly has blasted the timing of the Sigerson Cup, the main football competitiion for third level collges which is played off each spring.

"Tommy Carr and his management team have been working hard in difficult circumstances to prepare our team despite the obstacles of injury and unavailablity of players who are forced to divide their loyalties between college and county due to poor fixture making at national level," wrote Reilly in his message in the programme for last Saturday's NFL clash with Antrim.

"This problem affects nearly every county and is something which needs to be addressed as a matter of urgency," he said.

Cavan have suffered the loss of two of the county's top players due to injury sustained on college duty already this season.

Sean Johnston suffered a suspected broken elbow while helping DCU to victory over UCD last Wednesday week while, in the same game, 2009 Cavan captain Ronan Flanagan picked up a "severe dead leg" which ruled him out of last Sunday week's NFL Division Three opener away to Carr's former charges Roscommon. Tom Reilly's comments come just a fortnight after Carr himself expressed similar sentiments.

"It just confirms my thoughts on the timing of the Sigerson," stated the manager.

"I'm a former Sigerson player myself, but to play it at this time of the year is ridiculous," he said.

"We have been denied the players up until now [days before the league began], and then they play the Sigerson just a few days before the start of the league."
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on February 17, 2010, 07:38:03 PM
When was Sigerson played in the good old day?  Was it February or March?  Don't think it was April as that would be very close to Finals.

So as well as giving out about it the least they could give an indication of when it should be played.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on February 17, 2010, 07:41:05 PM
And in the good old days wasn't the league played each side of christmas. I wish these people would quit moaning to the press and get on with improving Cavan football - we're not the only ones with players in College.

That news above on Mullahoran is shocking, I actually can't believe that the biggest parish in the county - a football mad parish - can't field an underage team.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on February 17, 2010, 07:50:00 PM
Quote from: cavanmaniac on February 17, 2010, 04:12:10 PM
That news about Mullahoran is absolutely staggering, it really is.

I'm a long time out of the county but in my teens they were literally teeming with players; the size of the parish and the population, plus the tradition there meant it couldn't be anything else.

What in the name of Jesus is after happening, it's still a rural parish where GAA should still be King and yet you have this apalling fall off in numbers at underage where it should be at its most vibrant.

Things in Cavan really are worse than they seem.

I don't know it is really... things tend to come in cycles - especially in football... most clubs - with a few exceptions - aren't at the top forever and go through some bad times... 

For example Bailieboro would have been a top 4 senior team 8 or 9 years ago, they came down pretty hard in a short space of time and now they are making their way back up...

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on February 17, 2010, 08:05:51 PM
Quote from: Celt_Man on February 17, 2010, 07:50:00 PM

I don't know it is really... things tend to come in cycles - especially in football... most clubs - with a few exceptions - aren't at the top forever and go through some bad times... 

For example Bailieboro would have been a top 4 senior team 8 or 9 years ago, they came down pretty hard in a short space of time and now they are making their way back up...

You're right that every team goes through cycles where they have no cup-winning success for a number of years, before blooming like e.g. Gowna in the 90s and stumbling on a rich vein of players for a few years. But that's different from being  a huge - and rural - parish where only GAA is entertained going from having numbers aplenty and then suddenly not being able to even field a team - whatever about winning cups, Mullahoran should have teams at every age group with something to spare? Surely? If not, that's a staggering indictment of the game's appeal to boys and young men in a stronghold of the game in our county that won SFC title relatively recently and produced Gunner Brady and many other great players over the years. Very depressing.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on February 17, 2010, 08:08:34 PM
Quote from: cavanmaniac on February 17, 2010, 08:05:51 PM
Quote from: Celt_Man on February 17, 2010, 07:50:00 PM

I don't know it is really... things tend to come in cycles - especially in football... most clubs - with a few exceptions - aren't at the top forever and go through some bad times... 

For example Bailieboro would have been a top 4 senior team 8 or 9 years ago, they came down pretty hard in a short space of time and now they are making their way back up...

You're right that every team goes through cycles where they have no cup-winning success for a number of years, before blooming like e.g. Gowna in the 90s and stumbling on a rich vein of players for a few years. But that's different from being  a huge - and rural - parish where only GAA is entertained going from having numbers aplenty and then suddenly not being able to even field a team - whatever about winning cups, Mullahoran should have teams at every age group with something to spare? Surely? If not, that's a staggering indictment of the game's appeal to boys and young men in a stronghold of the game in our county that won SFC title relatively recently and produced Gunner Brady and many other great players over the years. Very depressing.

Well it all depends on the numbers in the parish but there are loads of young fellas in the parish but aren't playing football well then that's bad.  But on the other hand, if there are just not enough young fellas in the parish to make a team, that's a different kettle of fish...
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Swadman on February 17, 2010, 11:13:09 PM
Quote
Its not Location,Location,Location anymore Its Amalgamate,Amalgamate,Amalgamate.
Isn't that what the Daleks used to say before they tried to zap you?

I was gob-smacked to hear that Mullahoran had no minor team this year. I can understand lean years in small clubs from half parishes etc. but Mullahoran !!! The funny thing is.... they have a young lad on this years county minor panel, and no club team to play with.
I also thought someone was pulling my leg when they told me Swad was joined up with Corlough and CORNAFEAN in the minor league Div3. I went to see what this marriage looked like on Sat last in Shannon Gaels only to find 2 or 3 Templeport lads playing with them. From Swads point of view, we have 5 between the age of 16 and 18 (one of them was working on Sat) Corlough have 2 (but only one turned up) Cornafean had 13. For the record the first half was evenly contested but S/Gaels ran away with it in the second.
I can see the point in amalgamations if they are necessary to insure games for all 16 - 18 year olds. I don't agree with playing 13 - 15 year olds just to make up the numbers.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on February 18, 2010, 12:05:43 AM
We have something like 40 clubs with a population of say 65,000(thats being very optimistic)
which is more clubs than Donegal who have a population of 150,000.

I think the best solution is

Junior and Intermediate Club championships
start in May- Finish in July
Senior Championship starts end of July like its supposed to this year.
Amalgamations of intermediate/junior clubs should then  be encouraged to enter the Senior Championship,and if the Inter/Junior championships were complete,the amalgamations would have the players full attention.

It would give the likes of 
Ciaran Galligan
David Givney
Ray Cullivan
Declan McKiernan
John McCutcheon
Michael Hannon etc
the chance to play senior club championship football,and not be under pressure to train and play for their club in intermediate/junior at the same time.
what does everyone think?

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dougal on February 18, 2010, 08:41:30 AM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on February 18, 2010, 12:05:43 AM
We have something like 40 clubs with a population of say 65,000(thats being very optimistic)
which is more clubs than Donegal who have a population of 150,000.

I think the best solution is

Junior and Intermediate Club championships
start in May- Finish in July
Senior Championship starts end of July like its supposed to this year.
Amalgamations of intermediate/junior clubs should then  be encouraged to enter the Senior Championship,and if the Inter/Junior championships were complete,the amalgamations would have the players full attention.

It would give the likes of 
Ciaran Galligan
David Givney
Ray Cullivan
Declan McKiernan
John McCutcheon
Michael Hannon etc
the chance to play senior club championship football,and not be under pressure to train and play for their club in intermediate/junior at the same time.
what does everyone think?



you been reading my posts on hoganstand.i hinted at the exact same thing a week ago,if would surely get results.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on February 18, 2010, 09:26:25 AM
Would the junior and intermediate championships not clash with the inter-county championship in this scenario?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Drung on February 18, 2010, 12:47:00 PM
BallyhaiseMan makes an excellent point. Some research shows that Cavan has 40 football clubs for a population of 64,000. Donegal has 147,000 population and 39 football clubs.
It's worth noting though that soccer is huge in Donegal. In the Inishowen peninsula, there are 23 adult soccer clubs and just three Gaelic football clubs.
Still, good point. We have too many clubs I would think, although I'd like to see the stats re other counties.
I know Monaghan has 27 clubs for a 52,000 population which seems about right.

On another note, I want to point some of the complete tripe posted here recently by Mylestheslasher.

QuoteHe has made zero effort to find new talent

Hang on – Carr has given league debuts to six players in two matches! I'm no fan of Carr's but you're talking through your hole there.

Quotehe wasn't at a club game all year

Absolute rubbish. I'd say you who spouts random shite on here weren't at too many!


Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dougal on February 18, 2010, 02:08:19 PM
Quote from: Drung on February 18, 2010, 12:47:00 PM
BallyhaiseMan makes an excellent point. Some research shows that Cavan has 40 football clubs for a population of 64,000. Donegal has 147,000 population and 39 football clubs.
It's worth noting though that soccer is huge in Donegal. In the Inishowen peninsula, there are 23 adult soccer clubs and just three Gaelic football clubs.
Still, good point. We have too many clubs I would think, although I'd like to see the stats re other counties.
I know Monaghan has 27 clubs for a 52,000 population which seems about right.

On another note, I want to point some of the complete tripe posted here recently by Mylestheslasher.

QuoteHe has made zero effort to find new talent

Hang on – Carr has given league debuts to six players in two matches! I'm no fan of Carr's but you're talking through your hole there.

Quotehe wasn't at a club game all year

Absolute rubbish. I'd say you who spouts random shite on here weren't at too many!

how many of them 6 did he see play in more than one game,id hazard a guess at 1.

an exageration yes,far from the truth,no.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on February 18, 2010, 03:30:22 PM
Quote from: Dougal on February 18, 2010, 08:41:30 AM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on February 18, 2010, 12:05:43 AM
We have something like 40 clubs with a population of say 65,000(thats being very optimistic)
which is more clubs than Donegal who have a population of 150,000.

I think the best solution is

Junior and Intermediate Club championships
start in May- Finish in July
Senior Championship starts end of July like its supposed to this year.
Amalgamations of intermediate/junior clubs should then  be encouraged to enter the Senior Championship,and if the Inter/Junior championships were complete,the amalgamations would have the players full attention.

It would give the likes of 
Ciaran Galligan
David Givney
Ray Cullivan
Declan McKiernan
John McCutcheon
Michael Hannon etc
the chance to play senior club championship football,and not be under pressure to train and play for their club in intermediate/junior at the same time.
what does everyone think?



you been reading my posts on hoganstand.i hinted at the exact same thing a week ago,if would surely get results.
dont actually read the Cavan forum on Hoganstand anymore Dougal,only the stories and the National forum,But naturally id aggree with you ;) , i think its the best way forward for football in this county.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on February 18, 2010, 03:51:04 PM
Quote from: Drung on February 18, 2010, 12:47:00 PM
BallyhaiseMan makes an excellent point. Some research shows that Cavan has 40 football clubs for a population of 64,000. Donegal has 147,000 population and 39 football clubs.
It's worth noting though that soccer is huge in Donegal. In the Inishowen peninsula, there are 23 adult soccer clubs and just three Gaelic football clubs.
Still, good point. We have too many clubs I would think, although I'd like to see the stats re other counties.
I know Monaghan has 27 clubs for a 52,000 population which seems about right.

On another note, I want to point some of the complete tripe posted here recently by Mylestheslasher.

QuoteHe has made zero effort to find new talent

Hang on – Carr has given league debuts to six players in two matches! I'm no fan of Carr's but you're talking through your hole there.

Quotehe wasn't at a club game all year

Absolute rubbish. I'd say you who spouts random shite on here weren't at too many!

Read page 467 of this thread and you'll see where I clarified what I said for Celt Man (who is capable of disagreeing with someones opinion on here without resorting to insults)

You are correct, I don't attend a lot of club games because I live on the other side of the country. However, there are plenty of excellent posters on here who go to an awful lot of games and have repeatedly reported that Carr is rarely in attendance. Now I know you have nothing worth a damn to say about anything but do you think Carr himself has done enough to look at players? After all he is getting paid to manage the team isn't he?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Drung on February 18, 2010, 04:33:41 PM
QuoteNow I know you have nothing worth a damn to say about anything but do you think Carr himself has done enough to look at players? After all he is getting paid to manage the team isn't he?

I think he has actually.
I don't think anyone disputes the fact that, more or less, the 25-30 best available players are on the panel. If you disagree, tell me who should be there.
The problem is that Carr doesn't have them motivated, in shape or playing well! I'm not a Carr apologist, I've no time for him as a manager but making up rubbish off the top of your head such as he didn't go to a club game all year or he didn't try new players is embarrassing to be honest.
You just complain about everything regardless, as someone else pointed out recently.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on February 18, 2010, 04:49:36 PM
Quote from: Drung on February 18, 2010, 04:33:41 PM
QuoteNow I know you have nothing worth a damn to say about anything but do you think Carr himself has done enough to look at players? After all he is getting paid to manage the team isn't he?

I think he has actually.
I don't think anyone disputes the fact that, more or less, the 25-30 best available players are on the panel. If you disagree, tell me who should be there.
The problem is that Carr doesn't have them motivated, in shape or playing well! I'm not a Carr apologist, I've no time for him as a manager but making up rubbish off the top of your head such as he didn't go to a club game all year or he didn't try new players is embarrassing to be honest.
You just complain about everything regardless, as someone else pointed out recently.

Did you read what I said or are you replying to something you think I said. To summarise...

- Carr may have the best players on his panel but its not down to him scouring the county looking for them. They are players I presume that were referred to him.
- Has Carr been seen at a game outside Breffni. He was on RTE radio commentating on matches when championship games were being played last year. He has attend f**k all matches and everyone on here knows that so what are you going on about. Is that not a fact?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on February 18, 2010, 07:41:59 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on February 18, 2010, 12:05:43 AM
We have something like 40 clubs with a population of say 65,000(thats being very optimistic)
which is more clubs than Donegal who have a population of 150,000.

I think the best solution is

Junior and Intermediate Club championships
start in May- Finish in July
Senior Championship starts end of July like its supposed to this year.
Amalgamations of intermediate/junior clubs should then  be encouraged to enter the Senior Championship,and if the Inter/Junior championships were complete,the amalgamations would have the players full attention.

It would give the likes of 
Ciaran Galligan
David Givney
Ray Cullivan
Declan McKiernan
John McCutcheon
Michael Hannon etc
the chance to play senior club championship football,and not be under pressure to train and play for their club in intermediate/junior at the same time.
what does everyone think?

Would most boys want to play senior championship with an amalgamation though?

I honestly think that these amalgamations are just being used as a fits all sizes solution.... We haven't been doing these right from the lowest point in this county for years and till that changes, amalagamations will solve damn all

BHMan you're idea would leave the majority of footballers in the county with their championship football over by July?? How is that an improvement?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BigMac on February 18, 2010, 09:02:37 PM
Now now Myles and Drung. Stop the squabling, its starting to become like the hoganstand with this childish behaviour. I would have to agree with Myles though, I dont think Carr has gone to many (if any) club games that werent held in Breffni. Although I do think he has tried a lot of new players, he will probably end up returning to the same players who werent good enough last year. This is mostly down to the fact that at the minute we dont have the quality of players to make the team good. We have some good players who arent there, but there is nobody out there that Carr could bring in that would make us Ulster contenders. What i would ask of him is that he get the group that he has in good physical and mental shape, and playing with pride, courage and determination every time they take to the field.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on February 18, 2010, 09:31:31 PM
Quote from: Celt_Man on February 18, 2010, 07:41:59 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on February 18, 2010, 12:05:43 AM
We have something like 40 clubs with a population of say 65,000(thats being very optimistic)
which is more clubs than Donegal who have a population of 150,000.

I think the best solution is

Junior and Intermediate Club championships
start in May- Finish in July
Senior Championship starts end of July like its supposed to this year.
Amalgamations of intermediate/junior clubs should then  be encouraged to enter the Senior Championship,and if the Inter/Junior championships were complete,the amalgamations would have the players full attention.

It would give the likes of 
Ciaran Galligan
David Givney
Ray Cullivan
Declan McKiernan
John McCutcheon
Michael Hannon etc
the chance to play senior club championship football,and not be under pressure to train and play for their club in intermediate/junior at the same time.
what does everyone think?

Would most boys want to play senior championship with an amalgamation though?

I honestly think that these amalgamations are just being used as a fits all sizes solution.... We haven't been doing these right from the lowest point in this county for years and till that changes, amalagamations will solve damn all

BHMan you're idea would leave the majority of footballers in the county with their championship football over by July?? How is that an improvement?
CM
i know id want to play in the senior football championship even in an amalgamation,
(even if i had to join up with the likes of boojangles club to do it "spit"  ;D )
The club season for me needs to be compressed,
id much rather a season from February-July/August,whereby we are playing virtually every weekend.
would you not agree?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on February 18, 2010, 09:52:48 PM
BH Man its bad manners to spit in good company.

There is no doubting that some players would benefit greatly from playing at Senior Championship level,whether that is with an amalgamation or not. It would also be the best way to judge who exactly is at the required standard as the top players in the county should be competing against eachother.
Drung made the point that nobody could dispute the fact that the 25-30 picked for Cavan are the best available. Well I would dispute that fact and could name a list of at least 8 players who IMO would be as good as whats there,BUT the only way for it to be proven either way is for all these players to be seen competing against each other in Championship football.
So maybe Amalgamations are the way to go after all??
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on February 18, 2010, 10:29:39 PM
As a matter of interest, what is the best an amalgamated team has ever done in the senior championship in recent times. I can't remember one doing anything and I have to say a lot of the argument BHM and Boojangles are making are arguments I heard 10 years ago but amalgamations didn't work back then either.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dougal on February 18, 2010, 10:34:40 PM
Senior championship

annah gaels (belturbet redhills) 1973
st marys? 1976
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on February 18, 2010, 10:45:53 PM
Quote from: Dougal on February 18, 2010, 10:34:40 PM
annalee gaels (belturbet redhills) won the senior champ at some stage,could of been 70s though.

I think was the 70s when they had the likes of Ollie Brady and Frank McGuigan (not that Frank McGuigan).
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on February 18, 2010, 10:47:11 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on February 18, 2010, 10:29:39 PM
As a matter of interest, what is the best an amalgamated team has ever done in the senior championship in recent times. I can't remember one doing anything and I have to say a lot of the argument BHM and Boojangles are making are arguments I heard 10 years ago but amalgamations didn't work back then either.

If amalgamations are to work then I think the County Board should bring in a type of system which is used in Kerry. Super teams or whatever ya wanna call them. It would take alot of work and persuading but I feel it could be tried for a year or two.
It might mean that Drumalee would be joined with Ballyhaise (spit), Killygarry and Butlersbridge or Belturbet with Redhills,Kildallan and Killeshandra or insert any logical combinations ya want. You might end up with only 10 teams or less but it should mean that the best players in Cavan are all competing in the same championship.Then we could really sort the men from the boys.
The way it is done at present with a few half arsed amalgamations will never work.

Annagh won it in 1973. St Marys (Castlerahan and Munterconnacht) won it in 1976.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on February 19, 2010, 12:53:11 AM
On paper I  think amalgamations are a great idea.

But the fact is they are very hard and take alot of effort from both players and management to make them even half worthwile!I genuinely don't think it would work here due to the amount of clubs in Cavan.I think there are too many rivalries and tensions between local clubs.

It would take serious effort to get them to work and in fairness it would be brilliant if i did as I imagine it would sinificantly improve the standars clubwise immediately. But what will happen under BHM's idea IMO, is players would play for their clubs and then feck off abroad come July when the senior amalgamations are due to start. I think the club scene should be wrapped up by the end of September. And I would also like to see the league finished before the respective championships begin. At least then when your out of the championship, you dont have to go through the motions and fulfill poxy league fixtures that serve no purpose

I do agree though, our domestic season is dragged out to the last and this does not help with interest levels and numbers at the club scene.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Drung on February 19, 2010, 01:18:00 AM
List them Boojangles and as a criteria tell me would they make the Cavan Gaels team?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Swadman on February 19, 2010, 08:33:02 AM
Quote from: put-it-up on February 19, 2010, 12:53:11 AM
.I think there are too many rivalries and tensions between local clubs.

I would also like to see the league finished before the respective championships begin. ...then when your out of the championship, you don't have to go through the motions and fulfill poxy league fixtures that serve no purpose

Good points, Put-it-up.  As regards the rivalries issue, clubs who have a history of amalgamating at juvenile level should have no issues as they would know each other well.

According to this years "Master Fixture List" (normally a work of fiction) the plan is to have the leagues completely finished before championships start at the end of July. And rightly so. 
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on February 19, 2010, 10:04:08 AM
Quote from: put-it-up on February 19, 2010, 12:53:11 AM
On paper I  think amalgamations are a great idea.

But the fact is they are very hard and take alot of effort from both players and management to make them even half worthwile!I genuinely don't think it would work here due to the amount of clubs in Cavan.I think there are too many rivalries and tensions between local clubs.

It would take serious effort to get them to work and in fairness it would be brilliant if i did as I imagine it would sinificantly improve the standars clubwise immediately. But what will happen under BHM's idea IMO, is players would play for their clubs and then feck off abroad come July when the senior amalgamations are due to start. I think the club scene should be wrapped up by the end of September. And I would also like to see the league finished before the respective championships begin. At least then when your out of the championship, you dont have to go through the motions and fulfill poxy league fixtures that serve no purpose

I do agree though, our domestic season is dragged out to the last and this does not help with interest levels and numbers at the club scene.
agree with virtually everything there Put it up,my suggestion has flaws,no doubt,but something needs to be done to boost the championships,and i dont think amalgamations will work for the senior championship whilst the clubs participating are in the middle of their own championship,unless you put into play some system whereby amalgamations dont come into the championship until a latter stage,which really isnt fair to the other clubs.
What way do they do it down in Kerry does anyone know?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Drung on February 19, 2010, 10:13:21 AM
In Kerry the county championship and the club championship are two separate things I think.
The prestigious one is the county championship, which is mainly amalgamations and very strong club teams.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Drung on February 19, 2010, 10:14:29 AM
Also, it's split into regions which play off their own championship first.
In fairness, if we had west cavan as a region it's be practically the junior championship anyway with Kildallan, Templport, Swad, Corlough, Shannon Gaels.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on February 19, 2010, 04:23:09 PM
Quote from: Drung on February 19, 2010, 01:18:00 AM
List them Boojangles and as a criteria tell me would they make the Cavan Gaels team?

There are players on the Cavan panel at the moment that wouldn't make the Cavan Gaels team.
I said that I could name at least 8 players who IMO are as good if not better than whats on the county panel at the moment. I could extend the list to about 20 only for some players won't play, are not in the country etc etc
Here goes-
Sean Reilly- Cavan Gaels- yes he can make the Cavan Gaels team
Gavin Duffy-Cavan Gaels-yes he can make the Cavan Gaels team
Cathal Collins-don't ever remember the Doc retiring,he could have still done a job the last few years
Pauric Cahill-Killygarry-yes he would make the Cavan Gaels team
Ciaran Sheils-Mullahoran-yes he would make the Cavan Gaels team
Declan McKiernan-Killeshandra-yes he would make the Cavan Gaels team
Enda McCormack-Drumalee-yes he would make the Cavan Gaels team
Eamon Brady-Mullahoran-yes he would make the Cavan Gaels team
Barry Reilly-Kingscourt-yes he would make the Cavan Gaels team

Thats one extra thrown in for good luck.
I could also name another few who have been off the scene but are still relatively young.
Jonathan Crowe-Crosserlough
Shane Cole-Ramor
Colm Anderson-Cuchulainns
Barry Kelly-Ballyhaise
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Drung on February 20, 2010, 10:13:56 AM
Michael Fegan should be in there.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on February 20, 2010, 03:41:13 PM
Quote from: Drung on February 20, 2010, 10:13:56 AM
Michael Fegan should be in there.

Was out in Fegans a few weeks ago and he's in serious shape.Get him in I say.

So your not disputing the fact that some of the best players in the county are not on the panel??

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on February 20, 2010, 05:21:23 PM
id agree with everyone on your list Boojangles
id even add.
John Gurhy and Karl Crotty of the Gaels to that(if they were interested that is)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on February 20, 2010, 06:24:18 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on February 20, 2010, 05:21:23 PM
id agree with everyone on your list Boojangles
id even add.
John Gurhy and Karl Crotty of the Gaels to that(if they were interested that is)

Well I didn't wanna just include Gaels lads but yes I would definitely add Gurhy and Crotty too. TBH and I know its all a matter of opinion but there are alot of footballers who if given the chance would be an improvement on some lads there at the moment.If things had been done right in Cavan over the last 4 years we would not have this chronic problem of lads choosing not to represent their county. I don't agree with any man not taking their chance to represent Cavan but I definitely wouldn't blame them.

On another matter, what are your opinions on the nominations for Intermediate Player of the Year BH Man??
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on February 20, 2010, 06:32:11 PM
Wouldn't it be great it we got the Cavan team to play a club select XV!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on February 20, 2010, 07:16:30 PM
Quote from: put-it-up on February 20, 2010, 06:32:11 PM
Wouldn't it be great it we got the Cavan team to play a club select XV!

It wouldn't be great Put-it-Up, I think it would actually be sad because there would only be one winner.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dougal on February 20, 2010, 07:34:05 PM
cootehill dont have a minor team either.celt man,surely there are enough young lads in cootehill to field a team?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on February 20, 2010, 07:50:29 PM
Ah come on Boo J it would be a right good laugh. I'm bored so here is my team, though im sure i have forgotten loads since I have not seen a club game in months.

                 James Reilly
Karl Crotty Darren Smith Cillian Reilly

Gavin Duffy Eamon Reilly Oisin Minnagh

Trevor Crowe Gearoid McKiernan

Barry Reilly Declan McKiernan Michael McDonald

Paddy Bird Niall McDermott Jayo

I doubt they would be hammered!

And with regards to cootehill, their problems are well publicised. Kill, Drung, Drumgoon, and the monaghan teams across the border all on their door-step.... Self explanatory really
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on February 21, 2010, 01:01:43 AM
Quote from: Dougal on February 20, 2010, 07:34:05 PM
cootehill dont have a minor team either.celt man,surely there are enough young lads in cootehill to field a team?

Don't want to/Not ready to talk about it yet
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on February 21, 2010, 04:07:54 PM
Just checked that the thread doesn't mention football in it before saying congratulations to the hurlers for their win against Leitrim this afternoon.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on February 22, 2010, 01:01:11 AM
Quote from: Lawrence of Knockbride on February 21, 2010, 04:07:54 PM
Just checked that the thread doesn't mention football in it before saying congratulations to the hurlers for their win against Leitrim this afternoon.

Truly a great day for all fans of the GAA in Cavan  ;D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on February 24, 2010, 02:43:10 PM
Quote from: boojangles on February 20, 2010, 06:24:18 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on February 20, 2010, 05:21:23 PM
id agree with everyone on your list Boojangles
id even add.
John Gurhy and Karl Crotty of the Gaels to that(if they were interested that is)

Well I didn't wanna just include Gaels lads but yes I would definitely add Gurhy and Crotty too. TBH and I know its all a matter of opinion but there are alot of footballers who if given the chance would be an improvement on some lads there at the moment.If things had been done right in Cavan over the last 4 years we would not have this chronic problem of lads choosing not to represent their county. I don't agree with any man not taking their chance to represent Cavan but I definitely wouldn't blame them.

On another matter, what are your opinions on the nominations for Intermediate Player of the Year BH Man??
sorry only replying to this now,
dont know who the nominations even are Boojangles,although i know Ray was nominated.
Stephen Jordan was the best player in the Intermediate last year hands down in my opinion.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on February 24, 2010, 03:11:37 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on February 24, 2010, 02:43:10 PM
Quote from: boojangles on February 20, 2010, 06:24:18 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on February 20, 2010, 05:21:23 PM
id agree with everyone on your list Boojangles
id even add.
John Gurhy and Karl Crotty of the Gaels to that(if they were interested that is)

Well I didn't wanna just include Gaels lads but yes I would definitely add Gurhy and Crotty too. TBH and I know its all a matter of opinion but there are alot of footballers who if given the chance would be an improvement on some lads there at the moment.If things had been done right in Cavan over the last 4 years we would not have this chronic problem of lads choosing not to represent their county. I don't agree with any man not taking their chance to represent Cavan but I definitely wouldn't blame them.

On another matter, what are your opinions on the nominations for Intermediate Player of the Year BH Man??
sorry only replying to this now,
dont know who the nominations even are Boojangles,although i know Ray was nominated.
Stephen Jordan was the best player in the Intermediate last year hands down in my opinion.

Ray Cullivan, Stephan Jordan and Colm Smith are nominated.  It seems the winner will be decided by 50% public vote and 50% by a independent selection panel
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on February 24, 2010, 08:28:11 PM
Div 1 semi-finals to be played after long delay

24 February 2010

The eagerly-awaited All County Football League Division One semi-finals for 2009 are set to be finally played next month.

The games were originally set to be played at the tail end of last season but were held up over conditions and appeals and are now scheduled to take place on March 14th at Kingspan Breffni Park.

Imperial Bar Division One semi-finals:

Sunday, 14th March
Belturbet v Castlerahan (2.00pm)
Venue: Kingspan Breffni Park
Referee: TBC
Linesmen: TBC

Cavan Gaels v Gowna (3.30pm)
Venue: Kingspan Breffni Park
Referee: TBC
Linesmen: TBC
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on February 24, 2010, 08:39:58 PM
How did Gowna make the semi-finals? They won their appeal but how are the points given out?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on February 24, 2010, 09:52:51 PM
Anyone see any of the U21 challenge games of late. I hear we played out a high scoring game against Derry (won 3-13 to 5-5 according to Hoganstand although I heard Derry actually won) and they play Meath tonight. Also see Martin Dunne of Cavan Gaels pulled out, is there some problem with the Gaels lads playing for the county or whats going on there?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dougal on February 25, 2010, 01:10:20 PM
We beat derry according to one of the players.where did you hear about the meath match myles?only have access to internet on my fone and cant see what day the match is on.might head home if it's on tonight in breff
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on February 25, 2010, 01:21:50 PM
Quote from: Dougal on February 25, 2010, 01:10:20 PM
We beat derry according to one of the players.where did you hear about the meath match myles?only have access to internet on my fone and cant see what day the match is on.might head home if it's on tonight in breff

Na it was on last night in Navan, no word on it yet
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on February 25, 2010, 01:32:21 PM
Just read the celt briefly and the Meath match was to be on last night alirght. Dunne has left the panel cos he's not getting enough playing time. Good to see the ilk of players coming through. He has a right to play more than anyone else I presume? Also a mention that Cole won't be around but not for drinking, work commitments i think it said. Dougal, is your rumour unfounded?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on February 25, 2010, 01:38:13 PM
Hyland content with team's progress

24 February 2010

Cavan Under 21 boss Terry Hyland claims he's "happy enough" with the progress his team have been making in the build up to their Ulster championship clash with Down on March 24.

The Breffni men have registered some impressive tallies to reach the final of the Hastings Cup at the end of last month and recently put up 3-13 to defeat Derry in a challenge match at Kingspan Breffni Park, where there were also concerns at the back for Hyland's team as they conceded 5-5 to the visitors.

"I'd be happy enough the way things are going. We're progressing slowly but it's a matter of getting the balance right," said Hyland.

"We're starting to put up scores and we're starting to get our forwards tackling and improving their workrate. We have to tighten up a little bit more at the back end of it alright."

With regards to a starting 15 for the game against Down in four weeks' time, Hyland says he wants to get in at least two more challenge games before making any decisions; starting with tonight's meeting with Meath at Pairc Tailteann, Navan (throw-in 7.30pm).

"I might have an idea of championship panel but our idea is to give every body in there as much exposure as they can possible get at as high a level as we can. We're playing Meath this Wednesday night (tonight) and we'll try to get another one (challenge match) in," said the Lacken native.

Two players who definitely won't be apart of Hyland's plans for the Down game are Ramor's Adrian Cole and 2009 Cavan SFC top-scorer Martin Dunne. Cole is tied up with work commitments in England, while Cavan Gaels attacker Dunne "decided himself to pull out" of the squad according to the manager.

Read into that, what you will....
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on February 25, 2010, 01:48:34 PM
Just for the sake of completeness, Celt Man missed out the last part

It is understood that the Cavan Gaels player was unhappy at the amount of game time he was receiving in recent matches and opted out of the panel

http://www.anglocelt.ie/sport/localgaa/articles/2010/02/24/3995137-hyland-looks-to-tighten-defence-with-month-to-go/
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on February 25, 2010, 02:00:45 PM
At least we know now and have a month to plan without them.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on February 25, 2010, 02:03:02 PM
Quote from: Lawrence of Knockbride on February 25, 2010, 01:48:34 PM
Just for the sake of completeness, Celt Man missed out the last part

It is understood that the Cavan Gaels player was unhappy at the amount of game time he was receiving in recent matches and opted out of the panel

http://www.anglocelt.ie/sport/localgaa/articles/2010/02/24/3995137-hyland-looks-to-tighten-defence-with-month-to-go/

indeed...
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dougal on February 25, 2010, 02:09:34 PM
Yes,i really should change my sig to "take everything i say with a pinch of salt".its unfortunate 2 not have dunne but we have plenty of forwards to replace him with.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on February 26, 2010, 10:10:32 AM
Any word on that Meath match?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: whats my name on February 26, 2010, 10:58:56 AM
yea we were drawing with meath at half time think they came out in the second half and bet us round the pitch.from what i have heard cavan had va lot of sick men due to rag week this week so wudnt look into it much.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on February 26, 2010, 02:32:03 PM
So the goal is promotion, except if things go bad.

http://www.hoganstand.com/cavan/ArticleForm.aspx?ID=124543

Promotion the goal for Carr

Cavan manager Tommy Carr
26 February 2010

Cavan football boss Tommy Carr concedes that promotion to Division Two is his immediate concern.

The Breffni Blues slipped up against Antrim last time out, having opened their Division Three account with a crushing defeat of Roscommon. Tipperary native Carr hopes they can kick on and earn promotion to the second flight:

"Every team in Division Three is thinking about promotion at the minute.

"Realistically, they would love to be promoted and it is going to be a huge fight in the first three or four games for that promotion possibility spot.

"Because of the nature of it, and not to throw out clichés, each game will change your mind as to where you are - whether you are looking at a relegation job or a consolidation job or a promotion job.

"That's really where we are; what we are looking for out of the team is good, solid consistent performances."
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on February 26, 2010, 05:10:47 PM
"Because of the nature of it, and not to throw out clichés, each game will change your mind as to where you are - whether you are looking at a relegation job or a consolidation job or a promotion job.

So we should be happy with what we get?  Why bother saying anything?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on February 26, 2010, 05:23:08 PM
http://www.anglocelt.ie/sport/localgaa/articles/2010/02/24/3995131-end-to-end-time-has-arrived-to-make-good-on-a-promise/

Interesting article.

<b>END TO END: Time has arrived to make good on a promise</b>

Hindsight is a wonderful thing, and can make fools of us all, especially those who commit their views to print. Just sometimes, though, written words can be prescient.

A year ago this week, after a humbling at the hands of Tipperary in Breffni Park, this column asked the following question:

"Are the Cavan players hurting this week? They didn't look like a team playing with passion, with a fear of failure or a pride in the jersey last Sunday. Come to think of it, they didn't look like a team at all.

"The current panel have the trappings - the gear, the status - but after the manner of last Sunday's submission, they have lost some of the respect of the supporters."

The article went on:

"Whether emanating from his military background or stern appearance, Tom Carr has a reputation as a disciplinarian but so far, the Cavan manager hasn't convinced in that department."

Twelve months later, and with the benefit of the hindsight we mentioned, can Cavan honestly say that we have made progress? Has the manager "convinced" yet?

There was much snide smirking in the national media - where Carr, an always-willing interviewee, is well-regarded - when club delegates proposed a vote of no confidence in the manager last summer.

"Typical short-sighted Cavan" was the general line taken. "Win nothing for 40 years, then shaft a new manager after six months"... That was wrong, and it irked many genuine Cavan supporters to be patronised in such a manner.

When Carr took over in a blaze of publicity, his one abiding promise was to "make Cavan competitive". In his first year, he didn't do this, or come close to it. Clubs took a fire and ice approach - some reared up and wanted him gone but others kept a cool head and urged caution. The county committee voted en bloc to save him. He survived.

We are now in his second season and, sad as it is to say, we look as far away from a breakthrough, or even from being competitive, as ever.

While the current group of players aren't the best in the country, surely they are capable of better than being hammered at home by a shadow Antrim team minus up to eight regulars?

If a handful of footballers aren't performing, it can be seen as an individual thing but when a team appear, in a lot of cases, unfit, weak and off the pace, questions must be asked about preparation and motivation.

So, let's ask these questions. Why were the Cavan senior team so poor ten days ago against Antrim? Tom Carr stated that he "couldn't chase the game on the sideline" and he's right in that some established players, who have made the team as big names on Cavan's conveyor belt of losing minor and Under 21 teams, have let him down. An underage reputation is a worthless currency for a senior inter-county footballer - performance and results are everything.

But this is a serious business and the buck stops with the manager. He picks the team and oversees preparations, remember.

To raise these points isn't being disloyal, or disrespectful to any individual either. In fact it's the opposite; hard questions have to be posed after unacceptable performances.

Cavan were flattered by the scoreline in the Roscommon match but at least the desire and workrate was there. Six days later against Antrim, the hallmarks of the last 12 months - lifeless, flat, ponderous play - were all too evident.

The times we live in demand that everything be viewed through a monetary prism too and to look at Cavan's failures purely in financial terms makes for even more alarming reading. The human tragedy of job losses is everywhere here in the Border region, which never fully succumbed to the full charms of the Tiger yet is suffering the backlash harder than most.

Yet Cavan teams have had - wait for it - a grand total of €1,695,842 spent on them on the past three seasons. The lion's share of this went on the senior football panel.

To break it down even further, according to the accounts presented to the county convention last December, Cavan team travelling expenses for 2009 alone were €248, 821. Over an average of just an eight-month season - realistic considering the minors, Under 21s, juniors, senior footballers and senior hurlers won a single championship match between them - this works out at €31,102 per month.

That's a massive investment for a paltry return. In business, someone would be held responsible for this; let's face facts - someone, or more than one, would lose their job.

Sean Johnston said in an interview last week that Cavan supporters "all need to realise that they can't live in the past and that we are a long way down the pecking order." He's right, but it's unfair to ask supporters not to expect an acceptable level of performance.

There has been a backlash in the county over the past week to the performance. The manager has been in situ since September 2008, 17 months ago, so the excuse peddled last year of not having enough time doesn't cut it.

This isn't a witch hunt. Tom Carr is a thoroughly decent man and a popular figure with players; he could still be the right man to lead us, but we need to start seeing signs of progress. Rather, this is a reflection of the frustration on the ground among ordinary supporters, who just want the team to do themselves and our footballing tradition justice.

On that note, worryingly, the anger has almost gone, too, extinguished and replaced with a wistful shrug. One supporter contacted the offices of this newspaper last week to voice his opinion on the Antrim match. "Will we ever have a team again?" he asked wearily. Who can give him an answer to that? When will this manager make good his promise and make us "competitive"?

Hindsight, which we mentioned before, plays tricks. Two years ago, former manager Donal Keogan was derided but what would we give for an unbeaten seven-match league run or a championship win over Antrim now?

Cavan supporters - Club Breifne members, sponsors, die-hards, old-timers and starry-eyed teenagers - desperately crave a team to be proud of.

The promises and bluster are useless now - it's time we walked the walk, starting with the trip to Drogheda on Sunday week.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on February 26, 2010, 06:05:02 PM
Quote from: Denn Forever on February 26, 2010, 05:10:47 PM
"Because of the nature of it, and not to throw out clichés, each game will change your mind as to where you are - whether you are looking at a relegation job or a consolidation job or a promotion job.

So we should be happy with what we get?  Why bother saying anything?

Basically Cavan seem to have no goals, they are just going with the flow and seeing where that brings them..

That's the impression I got from that interview anyway..
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on February 26, 2010, 06:29:44 PM
Quote from: put-it-up on February 26, 2010, 06:05:02 PM
Quote from: Denn Forever on February 26, 2010, 05:10:47 PM
"Because of the nature of it, and not to throw out clichés, each game will change your mind as to where you are - whether you are looking at a relegation job or a consolidation job or a promotion job.

So we should be happy with what we get?  Why bother saying anything?

Basically Cavan seem to have no goals, they are just going with the flow and seeing where that brings them..

That's the impression I got from that interview anyway..

Yes thats what I took from it + the fact that manager and some players are far too fond of reading their own waffle in the papers instead of getting on with doing something.

That piece from the Celt is well written.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on February 27, 2010, 03:54:10 PM
DCU win Sigerson. 

How many Cavan players started? 

Saw clips of it and Flanagan seemed to be in defence.  Is it his best position?

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dougal on February 28, 2010, 02:19:22 AM
only saw a min or 2 of it,but sheridan was playing midfield,id imagine lyng and cullivan aswell.going by the betting for 1st goal scorer flanagan was in the forwards
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on February 28, 2010, 08:56:59 AM
Quote from: Dougal on February 28, 2010, 02:19:22 AM
only saw a min or 2 of it,but sheridan was playing midfield,id imagine lyng and cullivan aswell.going by the betting for 1st goal scorer flanagan was in the forwards

Jaysus your some legend, back home from the dinner dance and still fielding questions. :D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on February 28, 2010, 12:48:29 PM
Quote from: cavanmaniac on February 26, 2010, 05:23:08 PM
http://www.anglocelt.ie/sport/localgaa/articles/2010/02/24/3995131-end-to-end-time-has-arrived-to-make-good-on-a-promise/

Interesting article.

<b>END TO END: Time has arrived to make good on a promise</b>

Hindsight is a wonderful thing, and can make fools of us all, especially those who commit their views to print. Just sometimes, though, written words can be prescient.

A year ago this week, after a humbling at the hands of Tipperary in Breffni Park, this column asked the following question:

"Are the Cavan players hurting this week? They didn't look like a team playing with passion, with a fear of failure or a pride in the jersey last Sunday. Come to think of it, they didn't look like a team at all.

"The current panel have the trappings - the gear, the status - but after the manner of last Sunday's submission, they have lost some of the respect of the supporters."

The article went on:

"Whether emanating from his military background or stern appearance, Tom Carr has a reputation as a disciplinarian but so far, the Cavan manager hasn't convinced in that department."

Twelve months later, and with the benefit of the hindsight we mentioned, can Cavan honestly say that we have made progress? Has the manager "convinced" yet?

There was much snide smirking in the national media - where Carr, an always-willing interviewee, is well-regarded - when club delegates proposed a vote of no confidence in the manager last summer.

"Typical short-sighted Cavan" was the general line taken. "Win nothing for 40 years, then shaft a new manager after six months"... That was wrong, and it irked many genuine Cavan supporters to be patronised in such a manner.

When Carr took over in a blaze of publicity, his one abiding promise was to "make Cavan competitive". In his first year, he didn't do this, or come close to it. Clubs took a fire and ice approach - some reared up and wanted him gone but others kept a cool head and urged caution. The county committee voted en bloc to save him. He survived.

We are now in his second season and, sad as it is to say, we look as far away from a breakthrough, or even from being competitive, as ever.

While the current group of players aren't the best in the country, surely they are capable of better than being hammered at home by a shadow Antrim team minus up to eight regulars?

If a handful of footballers aren't performing, it can be seen as an individual thing but when a team appear, in a lot of cases, unfit, weak and off the pace, questions must be asked about preparation and motivation.

So, let's ask these questions. Why were the Cavan senior team so poor ten days ago against Antrim? Tom Carr stated that he "couldn't chase the game on the sideline" and he's right in that some established players, who have made the team as big names on Cavan's conveyor belt of losing minor and Under 21 teams, have let him down. An underage reputation is a worthless currency for a senior inter-county footballer - performance and results are everything.

But this is a serious business and the buck stops with the manager. He picks the team and oversees preparations, remember.

To raise these points isn't being disloyal, or disrespectful to any individual either. In fact it's the opposite; hard questions have to be posed after unacceptable performances.

Cavan were flattered by the scoreline in the Roscommon match but at least the desire and workrate was there. Six days later against Antrim, the hallmarks of the last 12 months - lifeless, flat, ponderous play - were all too evident.

The times we live in demand that everything be viewed through a monetary prism too and to look at Cavan's failures purely in financial terms makes for even more alarming reading. The human tragedy of job losses is everywhere here in the Border region, which never fully succumbed to the full charms of the Tiger yet is suffering the backlash harder than most.

Yet Cavan teams have had - wait for it - a grand total of €1,695,842 spent on them on the past three seasons. The lion's share of this went on the senior football panel.

To break it down even further, according to the accounts presented to the county convention last December, Cavan team travelling expenses for 2009 alone were €248, 821. Over an average of just an eight-month season - realistic considering the minors, Under 21s, juniors, senior footballers and senior hurlers won a single championship match between them - this works out at €31,102 per month.

That's a massive investment for a paltry return. In business, someone would be held responsible for this; let's face facts - someone, or more than one, would lose their job.

Sean Johnston said in an interview last week that Cavan supporters "all need to realise that they can't live in the past and that we are a long way down the pecking order." He's right, but it's unfair to ask supporters not to expect an acceptable level of performance.

There has been a backlash in the county over the past week to the performance. The manager has been in situ since September 2008, 17 months ago, so the excuse peddled last year of not having enough time doesn't cut it.

This isn't a witch hunt. Tom Carr is a thoroughly decent man and a popular figure with players; he could still be the right man to lead us, but we need to start seeing signs of progress. Rather, this is a reflection of the frustration on the ground among ordinary supporters, who just want the team to do themselves and our footballing tradition justice.

On that note, worryingly, the anger has almost gone, too, extinguished and replaced with a wistful shrug. One supporter contacted the offices of this newspaper last week to voice his opinion on the Antrim match. "Will we ever have a team again?" he asked wearily. Who can give him an answer to that? When will this manager make good his promise and make us "competitive"?

Hindsight, which we mentioned before, plays tricks. Two years ago, former manager Donal Keogan was derided but what would we give for an unbeaten seven-match league run or a championship win over Antrim now?

Cavan supporters - Club Breifne members, sponsors, die-hards, old-timers and starry-eyed teenagers - desperately crave a team to be proud of.

The promises and bluster are useless now - it's time we walked the walk, starting with the trip to Drogheda on Sunday week.

Excellently written article from whom I can only presume is Paul Fitzpatrick.

As regards the Sigerson match,I only seen some of the 2nd half.Flanagan had 11 on his back but was dropping very deep.
Cullivan had 18,seemed to be a WF and Lyng came on for Cathal Cregg I think the other WF.Dermot Sheridan was Midfield.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on February 28, 2010, 11:42:39 PM
Anybody hear if Aogan Farrell got in?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on March 01, 2010, 02:43:51 PM
Quote from: boojangles on February 28, 2010, 11:42:39 PM
Anybody hear if Aogan Farrell got in?

Oh there was no gettin in about it.  He was done and dusted, only being confirmed as Ulster President on Saturday.  Great achievement, fair play to him and best of luck
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Rawhide on March 01, 2010, 02:48:06 PM
Quote from: boojangles on February 28, 2010, 11:42:39 PM
Anybody hear if Aogan Farrell got in?

is Farrell a cavan man, God, hopefully he isn't as big a header as that man Greenan, an embarrassment
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on March 01, 2010, 04:37:19 PM
Quote from: Rawhide on March 01, 2010, 02:48:06 PM
Quote from: boojangles on February 28, 2010, 11:42:39 PM
Anybody hear if Aogan Farrell got in?

is Farrell a cavan man, God, hopefully he isn't as big a header as that man Greenan, an embarrassment

A Drumgoon man.Principal of Dernakesh National School outside of Cootehill. Fair play to him and the Best of luck.
Michael Greenan made some good and bad decisions during his tenure.Unfortunately the bad ones will be remembered more. He is however, a man of his word and if he said he would do something,he would do it.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on March 01, 2010, 10:45:52 PM
For anybody interested thats around Cavan.Tony Scullion will be hosting a coaching workshop to develop games from Under-14s up to Seniors on this Wednesday evening on the new Breifne 3G pitch at 7.30pm and it will be over at 9pm.
Seeing Tony Scullion in action alone should be enough to get a few out.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BigMac on March 02, 2010, 01:22:44 PM
According to the Hoganstand home page Nicholas Walsh has torn ligaments in his knee and will be out for the next 3 or 4 games. This might not actually be a bad thing, as i dont think hes near the best midfielder we have.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on March 02, 2010, 02:32:09 PM

For anybody interested thats around Cavan.Tony Scullion will be hosting a coaching workshop to develop games from Under-14s up to Seniors on this Wednesday evening on the new Breifne 3G pitch at 7.30pm and it will be over at 9pm.
Seeing Tony Scullion in action alone should be enough to get a few out.

I'm surprised that there was no mention of this in Hoganstand.  Its the kind of thing that would be both of use and of interest to anyone who trains teams. 

A true legend of football.

With Nicolas gone are there any representatives from the County Senior champions on the panel?  Just remembered Lyng. 
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on March 02, 2010, 03:13:05 PM
Quote from: Denn Forever on March 02, 2010, 02:32:09 PM

For anybody interested thats around Cavan.Tony Scullion will be hosting a coaching workshop to develop games from Under-14s up to Seniors on this Wednesday evening on the new Breifne 3G pitch at 7.30pm and it will be over at 9pm.
Seeing Tony Scullion in action alone should be enough to get a few out.

I'm surprised that there was no mention of this in Hoganstand.  Its the kind of thing that would be both of use and of interest to anyone who trains teams. 

A true legend of football.

With Nicolas gone are there any representatives from the County Senior champions on the panel?  Just remembered Lyng.

You can say that again. We had him down a few times a few years ago for talks. The man speaks with a raw passion that would make the hairs stand on your neck. U just wanna get straight out on the field as soon as he speaks.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dougal on March 02, 2010, 06:51:26 PM
is anyone else feeling more optimistic about sunday now that walsh is out of the picture?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Western Blue on March 02, 2010, 07:12:08 PM
When and where did N. Walsh get this injury as that last time I seen him he was been subbed in the Antrim  match and as he walked to the dugout he started to limp. I agree he  contributed nothing that night but I think he would have improved his performance over our next 4 key matches. Looks like Mulvey or Galligan for the next 4 matches.
I see Dermot Sheridan played for D.C.U. in midfield any thoughts.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on March 02, 2010, 07:16:00 PM
Without wishing harm on any player, it's an opportunity for Galligan/Givney/Cullivan (when's he back) or dare I suggest Mulvey to stake a claim for one of our weakest areas.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on March 04, 2010, 01:52:08 PM
Boojangles, did you get down to Scullion last night?  Anything ground breaking to report?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on March 04, 2010, 02:48:07 PM
Quote from: Western Blue on March 02, 2010, 07:12:08 PM
When and where did N. Walsh get this injury as that last time I seen him he was been subbed in the Antrim  match and as he walked to the dugout he started to limp. I agree he  contributed nothing that night but I think he would have improved his performance over our next 4 key matches. Looks like Mulvey or Galligan for the next 4 matches.
I see Dermot Sheridan played for D.C.U. in midfield any thoughts.

You can get away with a smaller/bigger combination at midfield,if the bigger man can win lots of ball and compete for everything in the air.
I think Gearoid McKiernan in a few years can be that player,but i dont think we have one at the moment,to allow a smaller man to play midfield.
Id go with two of  Givney,Mulvey, Galligan at centre field.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on March 04, 2010, 03:13:17 PM
Quote from: Celt_Man on March 04, 2010, 01:52:08 PM
Boojangles, did you get down to Scullion last night?  Anything ground breaking to report?

I did indeed horse. Everything you would expect from the man, with some excellent games. His main point is keep playing games,conditioned games and game situations. Its the only way to teach players how to think on their feet. Great turn out with over 70 coaches there and hopefully every club was represented. I think only 25 Coaches turned up to see him last year so maybe things are slowly turning.
The only disapointment of the night was ( and its typical of Cavan football) Tony was promised 20 Cavan Gaels Minors to demonstrate all the games. 7 showed up. It wouldn't have been too hard to ring neighbouring clubs for a few players,but obviously it was. It just meant he was restricted in what he could show us. A man of his calibre can drive 2 or 3 hours from Derry but we can't get things right on our side. ::)
But all credit to the man he still provided an excellent hour and a halfs demonstration.

Have a look at the Ulster.gaa.ie website where he said most of it is up.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on March 05, 2010, 04:05:20 PM
Quote from: boojangles on March 04, 2010, 03:13:17 PM
Quote from: Celt_Man on March 04, 2010, 01:52:08 PM
Boojangles, did you get down to Scullion last night?  Anything ground breaking to report?

I did indeed horse. Everything you would expect from the man, with some excellent games. His main point is keep playing games,conditioned games and game situations. Its the only way to teach players how to think on their feet. Great turn out with over 70 coaches there and hopefully every club was represented. I think only 25 Coaches turned up to see him last year so maybe things are slowly turning.
The only disapointment of the night was ( and its typical of Cavan football) Tony was promised 20 Cavan Gaels Minors to demonstrate all the games. 7 showed up. It wouldn't have been too hard to ring neighbouring clubs for a few players,but obviously it was. It just meant he was restricted in what he could show us. A man of his calibre can drive 2 or 3 hours from Derry but we can't get things right on our side. ::)
But all credit to the man he still provided an excellent hour and a halfs demonstration.

Have a look at the Ulster.gaa.ie website where he said most of it is up.

Sounds very good, annoyed I missed it.  Pity about those Gaels boys not turning up - typical townies!!  ;D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on March 05, 2010, 04:10:16 PM
Oh forgot to say that the Cavan GAA Media awards are on tonight in Hotel Kilmore from 8.30 pm  should be a good night and best of luck to all nominated even to Ray Cullivan and Stephen Jordan who are in competition with Colm in the intermediate category!!  :D

According to the anglo Celt website the event will be streamed live on their website tonight... an impressive addition to their coverage and fair play to all involved there...

Cavan Co. Board take note that's the way to drive things forward on the communications and IT front instead of the way their website is being run and updated ??? ???
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dougal on March 05, 2010, 10:55:51 PM
wasnt really paying much attention to the awards,but brady from mullahoran got ref of the year,hurler went to the mullahoran lad aswell.james brady,handballer.doonan,ladies.jordan,inter.reilly,senior.your man from the bridge got junior.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: whats my name on March 06, 2010, 09:35:37 AM
team was named for the louth game last night dermot sheridan playing midfield with ciaran galligan mickey brennan in at full forward.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on March 06, 2010, 10:33:40 AM
And a Denn full back line!  Flanagen left half back.  Hope they have a good one.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on March 06, 2010, 10:43:57 AM
Quote from: whats my name on March 06, 2010, 09:35:37 AM
team was named for the louth game last night dermot sheridan playing midfield with ciaran galligan mickey brennan in at full forward.

Done his hamstring at training last nite,is very doubtful.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: whats my name on March 06, 2010, 03:17:31 PM
did anyone go to the u-21 game last night in athlone the cavan u-21's were playing Kilmurry Ibrickane seniors heard they won well did anyone here what the team was and who played well?? 
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on March 06, 2010, 08:22:33 PM
Full team for tomorrow from Hoganstand.  D Sheridan must not be as bad as feared.

Cavan (NFL v Louth): F Reilly; E McPhilips, T Corr, M Cahill; A Clarke, E McGuigan, R Flanagan; C Galligan, D Sheridan; D Givney, G Smith, M McKeever; C Mackey, M Brennan, R Galligan.



Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dougal on March 06, 2010, 10:02:15 PM
So when i come of the m1 where do i go to get to the pitch?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on March 07, 2010, 10:33:34 AM
Quote from: Denn Forever on March 06, 2010, 08:22:33 PM
Full team for tomorrow from Hoganstand.  D Sheridan must not be as bad as feared.

Cavan (NFL v Louth): F Reilly; E McPhilips, T Corr, M Cahill; A Clarke, E McGuigan, R Flanagan; C Galligan, D Sheridan; D Givney, G Smith, M McKeever; C Mackey, M Brennan, R Galligan.


How many other counties are lining out today without a single representative from their current senior county champions (excepting the likes of Antrim with St Galls lads off limits). I know this has been touched on a bit here before but it's a really serious issue given how dominant the Gaels have been on the club scene. What'e equally worrying is that you hear mutterings of a bit of this showing with our under 21 team as well. I've even heard the odd comment that some of the lads attending Pat's are a bit iffy about lining our for the school. One club domination ain't great for any county scene, it certainly isn't good if lots of players from that club are lukewarm about the county jersey.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Western Blue on March 07, 2010, 11:33:21 AM
 I wonder how much of an influence have the key officers/team managers of the  Cavan Gaels Club got in getting their best players into not playing for the county. To be honest with you any time in the past I was never impressed with them when they played for the county  save for Cathal Collins.
Hope Cavan get the points in Drogheda this afternoon.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on March 07, 2010, 11:45:19 AM
Quote from: Western Blue on March 07, 2010, 11:33:21 AM
I wonder how much of an influence have the key officers/team managers of the  Cavan Gaels Club got in getting their best players into not playing for the county. To be honest with you any time in the past I was never impressed with them when they played for the county  save for Cathal Collins.
Hope Cavan get the points in Drogheda this afternoon.

The question is how many of the gaels lads are worth their place on the starting 15? Seems to me unless they get on the 1st 15 they aint interested. I doubt that is caused by Gaels officers more likely the ego's of some of their players - although I'm sure there are some with genuine reasons too. Eamonn Reilly is a guy I am disappointed in. Story was he had a big issue with Keoghan (and if the stories are true he had good reason) but why does he not make himself available now?
At the end of the day I want the best players playing for Cavan as long as they want to play for Cavan. If certain players want to disrespect the jersey by refusing to play then I believe it is their loss anyway and something they'll regret when their playing days are behind them. If you think about it, lads that are half hearted are no good to us anyway - they'll only walk when the going gets tough.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on March 07, 2010, 12:27:46 PM
Quote from: Dougal on March 06, 2010, 10:02:15 PM
So when i come of the m1 where do i go to get to the pitch?
Dunno but if you take the exit for slane and navan it's that side of the town so you should find it of after that.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on March 07, 2010, 03:36:28 PM
Got a goal and a point in  the first few minutes... Louth get 7 of the next 8 scores.  Cavan don't score for 24 minutes...
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on March 07, 2010, 03:59:11 PM
Myles,

Elliot, Collins, Gurhy, Crotty, Eamon Reilly, Sean Reilly, Duffy are just a few names that occur to me that are not "available" for whatever reason. Would any of them be worthy of a place on the starting 15? well given the dominance of the Gaels on the Club scene over the past number of years you would have to wonder. Nesty Smith didn't want to play for Coleman, he didn't want to play for Keogan, Carr could have said sure he doesn't want to play, we appear happy enough to have him at the moment. Given how things are going in Drogheda at the moment and in general, it's not as if we're brimming with options. 
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on March 07, 2010, 04:11:15 PM
13 to 1-06..anyone at it? only seven scores...pretty poor.

Heard a wee bit on the radio, we had 1-01 after five minutes so that means we only managed 5 points in 55 minutes. That's just not good enough.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on March 07, 2010, 04:33:00 PM
Quote from: anglocelt39 on March 07, 2010, 03:59:11 PM
Myles,

Elliot, Collins, Gurhy, Crotty, Eamon Reilly, Sean Reilly, Duffy are just a few names that occur to me that are not "available" for whatever reason. Would any of them be worthy of a place on the starting 15? well given the dominance of the Gaels on the Club scene over the past number of years you would have to wonder. Nesty Smith didn't want to play for Coleman, he didn't want to play for Keogan, Carr could have said sure he doesn't want to play, we appear happy enough to have him at the moment. Given how things are going in Drogheda at the moment and in general, it's not as if we're brimming with options.

Elliot no better than what we have. Collins was hit and miss at his prime in a Cavan shirt. Crotty had a good season followed up by a terrible one and was never seen again. Duffy played in Keoghans 1st season and did not impress. Maybe they are worth another look. The others would have to prove themselves, which they won't do unless they actually go in  . Smith didn't play for Cavan as he was trying to make the Dublin panel, nothing to do with personalities with managers.

As for Drogheda, put myself through the pain of listening to Northern Sound and it seems like we are a pathetic outfit. We should have players as good as Louth have and they just bet us out the gate. The fact is Carr is not getting anything other than 2nd gear out of what he has, he a poor motivator that tries to cover this up by talking crap to the media every second day. They should give him the boot and at least save a few euros cos I can't see us achieving anything this year except relegation.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on March 07, 2010, 04:51:00 PM
Yeah iv really lost hope myself, no progress seems to be gettin made at all. Have we improved in any department since TC took over?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on March 07, 2010, 04:59:07 PM
Quote from: put-it-up on March 07, 2010, 04:51:00 PM
Yeah iv really lost hope myself, no progress seems to be gettin made at all. Have we improved in any department since TC took over?

Had a club match so couldnt go,
The answer to that question is no,PIU,we have gottena fair bit worse.
We got Promotion and beat Cork in the league under Keoghan,yet no-one would say his overall regimae was anything approaching good,for a number of reasons.
Carr has no idea,and if he had any self respect,hed walk away now before he takes this team into Division 4.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on March 07, 2010, 05:30:23 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on March 07, 2010, 04:59:07 PM
Quote from: put-it-up on March 07, 2010, 04:51:00 PM
Yeah iv really lost hope myself, no progress seems to be gettin made at all. Have we improved in any department since TC took over?

Had a club match so couldnt go,
The answer to that question is no,PIU,we have gottena fair bit worse.
We got Promotion and beat Cork in the league under Keoghan,yet no-one would say his overall regimae was anything approaching good,for a number of reasons.
Carr has no idea,and if he had any self respect,hed walk away now before he takes this team into Division 4.

We really have. Team seems more lifeless than ever. No real belief. I know the players put in a lot of effort training and all that and at the same time I know they have to shoulder a fair bit of the blame but they are clearly not being prepared/motivated as best as they could be.

There never seems to be any patterns to our play. Let's be honest, at the moment we are fairly limited but I don't think we utilize our strengths.

Any manager looking at the team at the start of the year worth his shillings at all would have realised we can outplay very few other counties. So you have to come up with way's to stop others and use what you have got.

I would have got the team very-fit, got a simple game plan together that's not overcomplicated (ie. hand-pass out of defence and support running), played a two-man full-forward line and looked to get early ball into space.

I'm not saying it would work because I know sweet FA about inter-county management, but that's what I would have tried to do.Can anyone shed any-light on what Cavan's current game-plan is? Show up, go with the flow and see how we get on? That last interview on HS just summed it all up. TC doesn't know whether his team should be going for promotion or avoiding relegation. I mean that just says the team doesn't know what his team is aiming for.

It looks like we are only going one way at the minute and that is down.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: whats my name on March 07, 2010, 06:54:38 PM
who played well wasn't at the game had a club game. was there a shining light out of this abysmal result? i feel the only place cavan are going is the basement of inter county football
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: LUABU on March 07, 2010, 07:20:35 PM
As a Louthman  with a gra for Cavan , I would be seriously worried for you. This was a poor Louth team especially without Finnegan & Keenan. No doubt you should have been out of sight by half time, to be behind was up there with the loaves and fishes. Showed verylittle fight when it was needed. Where was Cullivan ? tought he had a good Sigerson
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on March 07, 2010, 08:27:27 PM
Sorry again Myles but your comments about Crotty and Duffy ignore an absolutely important point. When they were playing with varying degrees of personal success we were going toe to toe with Armagh, Derry, Tyrone, Down, Donegal, Meath, Mayo, Duhlin, Cork etc. Elliott, collins, Eamon Reilly and Rabbitte (forgot him first time, sorry) were also around at that time. All blokes still winning county medals and not available to their county team for some reason. You've stated that you see us as being lucky to stay in Division 3 this year and you may be right, but that is simply unacceptable to me in terms of where we have sunk from so quickly. If that's what you are willing to accept of course you will be fairly relaxed about whether blokes make themselves available or not.

I simply refuse to accept that we can sink that far so quickly particularly given all the money that is spent on county panels.

Regarding Duffy and Crotty again, Pierce Mckenna was dire in his first two years lining out for Cavan, we'd take him on one leg now. You have to allow players time to settle into a set up.

There are bigger issues as to why we are where we find ourselves than players from the dominant club not being available for selection, at the same time it's a more important issue (far more important in fact) than the number of times Tommy Carr (or Sean Johnston for that matter) give a quote to the media.

I'm not a Gaels man by any stretch, as you will know.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on March 07, 2010, 08:35:57 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PeyOnNple4M
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on March 07, 2010, 09:06:57 PM
Quote from: anglocelt39 on March 07, 2010, 08:27:27 PM
Sorry again Myles but your comments about Crotty and Duffy ignore an absolutely important point. When they were playing with varying degrees of personal success we were going toe to toe with Armagh, Derry, Tyrone, Down, Donegal, Meath, Mayo, Duhlin, Cork etc. Elliott, collins, Eamon Reilly and Rabbitte (forgot him first time, sorry) were also around at that time. All blokes still winning county medals and not available to their county team for some reason. You've stated that you see us as being lucky to stay in Division 3 this year and you may be right, but that is simply unacceptable to me in terms of where we have sunk from so quickly. If that's what you are willing to accept of course you will be fairly relaxed about whether blokes make themselves available or not.

I simply refuse to accept that we can sink that far so quickly particularly given all the money that is spent on county panels.

Regarding Duffy and Crotty again, Pierce Mckenna was dire in his first two years lining out for Cavan, we'd take him on one leg now. You have to allow players time to settle into a set up.

There are bigger issues as to why we are where we find ourselves than players from the dominant club not being available for selection, at the same time it's a more important issue (far more important in fact) than the number of times Tommy Carr (or Sean Johnston for that matter) give a quote to the media.

I'm not a Gaels man by any stretch, as you will know.

You are reading what I said wrong. I would like to see them in there but if they don't want to for whatever reason then what can you do. You can't force them in and even if you could their hearts won't be in it. The only reason we will get relegated this year is because the players that have committed are not playing to their potential, do not have belief and are not motivated. The manager is at fault there. There is no team ethic no togetherness. For example, when Mick Higgins died it was a great chance for the team to come together for the funeral, a show of solidarity with a fallen legend and maybe look to the likes of Higgins for inspiration (i.e. Cavan can and have produced the finest of footballers so lets not have low opinions of ourselves). If I were the manager thats how I would have played that one. Instead they went and played a challenge game showing total disrespect to Higgins and the county imo. The manager has a job to do and he is getting paid to do it - make no mistake. Yet all we get is stupid press releases from him and on a Sunday farcical displays by a disorganised team. All these are small things but they are all symptoms of what is wrong - its not all underage structures, training and master degrees in physical fitness. The proof of this is there to see. Mick O Dwyer goes to Wicklow - a county with no history, no belief, no results worth a damn for decades and in a year he makes them competitive and last year he took scalps galore. He didn't make new players or put in new underage structures and he didn't spend every spare minute talking shite about Sigersons Cup etc to the media. He thought them hard work, pride and instilled in them a will to bust a gut for your fellow player in a county famous for in-fighting. As for Seanie Johnson - he needs to stick to working on his game and forget about talking to the press, he still has a way to go to fulfill his potential and to be on the same level as players like Gooch, Bradleys etc. I hope he knuckles down and does it too.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on March 07, 2010, 10:10:31 PM
A lot of lads not at the game today with a lot of opinions but I won't hold that against anyone as I'm getting a bit fed up of it myself. In defence of Carr if we had taken our chances early on it's likely that some of the negative comments being made now wouldn't have been as fierce. As our Louth contibutor said, this was a bad Louth team and we should've been out of sight. Maybe it was those chances missed as well as some frees missed into the wind that plant seeds of doubt in some of our players. But we never played after that first quarter.
As far as performances go:
1. Fintan-No saves to make but his kicouts were poor into and with the wind. I would disagree that Elliott (if he wants to play) is a worse optoin here. He's not great but he's as good as Fintan.
2. McPhilips-A good game and was frequently out with his man. Deserves to start going forward from here.
3. Corr-Wasn't expoesed badly as I feel he inevitably will but this was due to the lack of ball going in. Also Flangan and Clarke swept in front of him quite well in the first half.
4. Cahill-Did ok. Again wasn't beaten to the few balls that came in but you can see he's bursting to play further out the field to utilise his main asset-his running off the ball in support of attacks. Was vey vocal in trying to get the lads going too.
5. Clarke-Got a straight red late for stamping (I heard). Did ok but didnt' support going forward. Left his man a lot to cover the centre which was obviously a ploy. So maybe we had a plan afterall.
6. McGuigan-Not in the game enough for me at this position but nobody ran through this area either but this was probably down to the opposition and their style of play.
7. Flagnagn-Good first half where he swept up inside and drove forward a couple of times.
8. Galligan-Quiet but didn't do anything wrong and set up the goal well. Harshly taken of for L****n.
9. Sheridan-Very poor. I've been a fan and thought he was being played out of position last year. But in the last two games, in two different positions he's looked clumsy, sleepy and generally uninterested which is very unlike him. Disillusionment?
10. McKeever-Dropped deep first half and worked hard coming forward from deep but disappeared second half.
11. Nesty-Worked harder defensively than most and more than he has done. Didn't do himself justice on the ball and missed a bad free first half although the wind seemed strong.
12. Givney-Good first half where he took 2 or 3 marks and was on the ball more than others by dropping deep and further infield (another tactical plan that worked insofar as getting on the ball at least). Set up some decent attacks first half but also largely disappeared second half.
13. Mackey-Probably our best player and was a constant thorn in the first half drawing frees and scoring the goal.
14. Brennan-Was involved in a couple of the missed early goal chances but looked cumbersome and was withdrawn. Maybe not up to fitness yet.
15. Galligan-The honeymoon is over. Looked slow and awkward. Was off-target with his frees and didn't provide much of a target. Taken off.

Subs:
Lyng-played well, got involved in the second half but unfortunately the others didn't follow suit. Wasn't great in previous games but still a strange omission for me.
Eddie-Nothing good to say, no say nothing. Shouted a bit and feel over a bit more.
Mulvey-Came on to the pitch in quite a straight line so credit where it's due. Threw a couple of punches into Aaron Hoey when he was being shackled by two men, had a little jog with the ref for a chat while we were building an attack, let his man have a 30 metre head start in an attack before a lung bursting, cape flying out, sprint back to catch him and finally kicked a free on to the head of the referee. But he's a nice lad off the pitch (Sorry Boojangles but my face is turning red trying to be light-hearted about him) :P
Hannon-Not on long but gave away one free from one tackle.

Referee-Awful for both teams but why would he be the exception ;)

As you'll have noticed most of my points reflect our performance in the first half. The reason being that the second half just seemed to pass by with a series of Louth frees and points so although our defence wasn't terrible we offered nothing to get back into the game and we were beaten badly at midfield.
I'm no fan of Carr and I think he maybe should go as it may be that the players have lost faith in themselves and him. At this point in time I don't really give a shit. We might stay up, we might go down, we won't go up. f**k it.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on March 07, 2010, 10:22:06 PM
A lot misspellings there-apologies.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on March 07, 2010, 10:38:08 PM
Quote from: Lawrence of Knockbride on March 07, 2010, 10:10:31 PM
A lot of lads not at the game today with a lot of opinions but I won't hold that against anyone as I'm getting a bit fed up of it myself. In defence of Carr if we had taken our chances early on it's likely that some of the negative comments being made now wouldn't have been as fierce. As our Louth contibutor said, this was a bad Louth team and we should've been out of sight. Maybe it was those chances missed as well as some frees missed into the wind that plant seeds of doubt in some of our players. But we never played after that first quarter.
As far as performances go:
1. Fintan-No saves to make but his kicouts were poor into and with the wind. I would disagree that Elliott (if he wants to play) is a worse optoin here. He's not great but he's as good as Fintan.
2. McPhilips-A good game and was frequently out with his man. Deserves to start going forward from here.
3. Corr-Wasn't expoesed badly as I feel he inevitably will but this was due to the lack of ball going in. Also Flangan and Clarke swept in front of him quite well in the first half.
4. Cahill-Did ok. Again wasn't beaten to the few balls that came in but you can see he's bursting to play further out the field to utilise his main asset-his running off the ball in support of attacks. Was vey vocal in trying to get the lads going too.
5. Clarke-Got a straight red late for stamping (I heard). Did ok but didnt' support going forward. Left his man a lot to cover the centre which was obviously a ploy. So maybe we had a plan afterall.
6. McGuigan-Not in the game enough for me at this position but nobody ran through this area either but this was probably down to the opposition and their style of play.
7. Flagnagn-Good first half where he swept up inside and drove forward a couple of times.
8. Galligan-Quiet but didn't do anything wrong and set up the goal well. Harshly taken of for L****n.
9. Sheridan-Very poor. I've been a fan and thought he was being played out of position last year. But in the last two games, in two different positions he's looked clumsy, sleepy and generally uninterested which is very unlike him. Disillusionment?
10. McKeever-Dropped deep first half and worked hard coming forward from deep but disappeared second half.
11. Nesty-Worked harder defensively than most and more than he has done. Didn't do himself justice on the ball and missed a bad free first half although the wind seemed strong.
12. Givney-Good first half where he took 2 or 3 marks and was on the ball more than others by dropping deep and further infield (another tactical plan that worked insofar as getting on the ball at least). Set up some decent attacks first half but also largely disappeared second half.
13. Mackey-Probably our best player and was a constant thorn in the first half drawing frees and scoring the goal.
14. Brennan-Was involved in a couple of the missed early goal chances but looked cumbersome and was withdrawn. Maybe not up to fitness yet.
15. Galligan-The honeymoon is over. Looked slow and awkward. Was off-target with his frees and didn't provide much of a target. Taken off.

Subs:
Lyng-played well, got involved in the second half but unfortunately the others didn't follow suit. Wasn't great in previous games but still a strange omission for me.
Eddie-Nothing good to say, no say nothing. Shouted a bit and feel over a bit more.
Mulvey-Came on to the pitch in quite a straight line so credit where it's due. Threw a couple of punches into Aaron Hoey when he was being shackled by two men, had a little jog with the ref for a chat while we were building an attack, let his man have a 30 metre head start in an attack before a lung bursting, cape flying out, sprint back to catch him and finally kicked a free on to the head of the referee. But he's a nice lad off the pitch (Sorry Boojangles but my face is turning red trying to be light-hearted about him) :P
Hannon-Not on long but gave away one free from one tackle.

Referee-Awful for both teams but why would he be the exception ;)

As you'll have noticed most of my points reflect our performance in the first half. The reason being that the second half just seemed to pass by with a series of Louth frees and points so although our defence wasn't terrible we offered nothing to get back into the game and we were beaten badly at midfield.
I'm no fan of Carr and I think he maybe should go as it may be that the players have lost faith in themselves and him. At this point in time I don't really give a shit. We might stay up, we might go down, we won't go up. f**k it.

Lawrence, you were at the game - I wasn't but your ratings seem to suggest a decentish performance but hadn't we only scored 1-3 half way through 2nd half, 1-1 of which was scored in the 1st few minutes? From listening to the radio it appeared we were emm Brutal.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on March 07, 2010, 10:47:44 PM
Larry of Canningstown, thanks for the report. Yes I'm stating opinions not having been at the game but if you check those opinions did not require attendance. Myles in fairness now your statement on what Micko has done in Wicklow does bear thinking about ignoriing what Wicklow will be like when Micko rides off into the sunset. So to try to finalise it and stop boring everybody:

1. the fortunes of our county team have fallen into an awful state of chassis-fact;

2. one club team has dominated all elements of underage and senior over the past sevearal years-fact;

3. many players from that club are not interested in representing their county for whatever reason-fact;

4. if more players from that club were willing to committ to the county panel it would be a good thing-opinion but stongly supported by the above facts.

Off to work for the week now which has an internet police regime second to none, your spared any more until next weekend when we move onto flat earth theory. best of luck
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on March 07, 2010, 10:58:52 PM
Myles, like I said the second half passed the lads by who didn't seem to know we were in a game. It consisted of us losing most kickouts and giving away frees in the backs from the ball won. We offered little going forward in the second half.
The first half we played deep, Givney got on the ball a lot and fed Mackey a lot which resulted in us scoring 1-1 and missing a very, very scoreable 3-3 odd. So we played quite well in the first quarter without putting it on the board. I'm no journalist but you know better than to take much notice of Northern Sound's views. Did they care to elaborate on how and where we were so bad?
Anglocelt, I wasn't having a go at you and your right, your calls didn't require viewing to make. I'm just highlighting the thin line between outrage with Carr and mild disappointment with him which requires a little more than stats such as x scores in y minutes which can be gained from viewing the game itself. And while I'm on and angry, is there any chance you could stop the squabbling and silly remarks?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dougal on March 07, 2010, 11:11:53 PM
Quote from: Lawrence of Knockbride on March 07, 2010, 10:10:31 PM
A lot of lads not at the game today with a lot of opinions but I won't hold that against anyone as I'm getting a bit fed up of it myself. In defence of Carr if we had taken our chances early on it's likely that some of the negative comments being made now wouldn't have been as fierce. As our Louth contibutor said, this was a bad Louth team and we should've been out of sight. Maybe it was those chances missed as well as some frees missed into the wind that plant seeds of doubt in some of our players. But we never played after that first quarter.
As far as performances go:
1. Fintan-No saves to make but his kicouts were poor into and with the wind. I would disagree that Elliott (if he wants to play) is a worse optoin here. He's not great but he's as good as Fintan.
2. McPhilips-A good game and was frequently out with his man. Deserves to start going forward from here.
3. Corr-Wasn't expoesed badly as I feel he inevitably will but this was due to the lack of ball going in. Also Flangan and Clarke swept in front of him quite well in the first half.
4. Cahill-Did ok. Again wasn't beaten to the few balls that came in but you can see he's bursting to play further out the field to utilise his main asset-his running off the ball in support of attacks. Was vey vocal in trying to get the lads going too.
5. Clarke-Got a straight red late for stamping (I heard). Did ok but didnt' support going forward. Left his man a lot to cover the centre which was obviously a ploy. So maybe we had a plan afterall.
6. McGuigan-Not in the game enough for me at this position but nobody ran through this area either but this was probably down to the opposition and their style of play.
7. Flagnagn-Good first half where he swept up inside and drove forward a couple of times.
8. Galligan-Quiet but didn't do anything wrong and set up the goal well. Harshly taken of for L****n.
9. Sheridan-Very poor. I've been a fan and thought he was being played out of position last year. But in the last two games, in two different positions he's looked clumsy, sleepy and generally uninterested which is very unlike him. Disillusionment?
10. McKeever-Dropped deep first half and worked hard coming forward from deep but disappeared second half.
11. Nesty-Worked harder defensively than most and more than he has done. Didn't do himself justice on the ball and missed a bad free first half although the wind seemed strong.
12. Givney-Good first half where he took 2 or 3 marks and was on the ball more than others by dropping deep and further infield (another tactical plan that worked insofar as getting on the ball at least). Set up some decent attacks first half but also largely disappeared second half.
13. Mackey-Probably our best player and was a constant thorn in the first half drawing frees and scoring the goal.
14. Brennan-Was involved in a couple of the missed early goal chances but looked cumbersome and was withdrawn. Maybe not up to fitness yet.
15. Galligan-The honeymoon is over. Looked slow and awkward. Was off-target with his frees and didn't provide much of a target. Taken off.

Subs:
Lyng-played well, got involved in the second half but unfortunately the others didn't follow suit. Wasn't great in previous games but still a strange omission for me.
Eddie-Nothing good to say, no say nothing. Shouted a bit and feel over a bit more.
Mulvey-Came on to the pitch in quite a straight line so credit where it's due. Threw a couple of punches into Aaron Hoey when he was being shackled by two men, had a little jog with the ref for a chat while we were building an attack, let his man have a 30 metre head start in an attack before a lung bursting, cape flying out, sprint back to catch him and finally kicked a free on to the head of the referee. But he's a nice lad off the pitch (Sorry Boojangles but my face is turning red trying to be light-hearted about him) :P
Hannon-Not on long but gave away one free from one tackle.

Referee-Awful for both teams but why would he be the exception ;)

As you'll have noticed most of my points reflect our performance in the first half. The reason being that the second half just seemed to pass by with a series of Louth frees and points so although our defence wasn't terrible we offered nothing to get back into the game and we were beaten badly at midfield.
I'm no fan of Carr and I think he maybe should go as it may be that the players have lost faith in themselves and him. At this point in time I don't really give a shit. We might stay up, we might go down, we won't go up. f**k it.


was at the game and agree with all you said.they looked good in the first quarter,and disappeared after that.thanks for that bit about mulvey,cheered me up after being in a dire mood all evening.

what did clarke and lyng do in front of the stand?i was the far side and didnt see either of them properly.lyng looked like he did nothing,i thought it looked like clarke just clipped your man when he fell on the ground.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: trim blue on March 07, 2010, 11:52:39 PM
Was on that side of the pitch, Lyng caught your man with a high elbow and could have walked, Hoey held on to the ball over the line and Clarke walked/stamped on his leg. No discernible game plan lads and a lack of basic skills, numerous times in the second half we could not pass the ball 5 yards when under no pressure, at one stage we had 3 lads across the middle unmarked and each pass was atrocious, the last one landing at the players feet, he fell over it and a Louth man came in and won another cheap free.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tierworker blue on March 08, 2010, 12:03:31 AM
Clarke should'nt have got the line...bad call by the ref (it happened just in front of me.) Two men chasing a 50 50 ball out over the sideline and Clarke clipped Hoey, who went down holding onto the ball. There was no outlandish stamp or anything and the tangle was'nt malicious in my opinion.

On the other hand, the general concensus over on our side was that Lyng was lucky not to see the line. He came out in front of his man, gathered the ball and then turned sharply towards goal in the process flattening his man with a high arm / fist. This was a bit further away from us, but the Louth lad went down like a ton of bricks, and it looked genuine. Strangely though, the medic did'nt pay much attention to the head area where it seemed there was contact, but concentrated on his leg, so I'm not sure what the actual injury was.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on March 08, 2010, 12:09:52 PM
Quote from: Lawrence of Knockbride on March 07, 2010, 10:58:52 PM
Myles, like I said the second half passed the lads by who didn't seem to know we were in a game. It consisted of us losing most kickouts and giving away frees in the backs from the ball won. We offered little going forward in the second half.
The first half we played deep, Givney got on the ball a lot and fed Mackey a lot which resulted in us scoring 1-1 and missing a very, very scoreable 3-3 odd. So we played quite well in the first quarter without putting it on the board. I'm no journalist but you know better than to take much notice of Northern Sound's views. Did they care to elaborate on how and where we were so bad?
Anglocelt, I wasn't having a go at you and your right, your calls didn't require viewing to make. I'm just highlighting the thin line between outrage with Carr and mild disappointment with him which requires a little more than stats such as x scores in y minutes which can be gained from viewing the game itself. And while I'm on and angry, is there any chance you could stop the squabbling and silly remarks?

Maybe our expectations have dropped so  much that when we actually get the ball and pass it we think we are playing well, even though we miss 2-2 at the end of it. In the end of the day Cavan scored 1-6 against the mighty Louth, 1-1 from play (which means after 5 minutes we did not score a single point from play!). That to me is a pretty dire performance and no amount of "what might have been" makes it any better.

Just to qualify what I said earlier. I was not trying to play down the crucial role that having good underage structures has to play. What I was saying is that you can take a team of players and get the very best out of them by being a good motivator, teaching a work and team ethic and getting some pride in the jersey, as has been proven by Wicklow. Cavan are no world beaters but we are not playing to our full potential and surely we need some man that can instill this. Underage structures are for the future but right now we need to do something to shore up this mess before confidence of players goes too low to be revived. I supported Carr on here for the job when it was going and I now admit I was wrong to. The man has shown us nothing. I'd move him out now if I was the county board. We have no choice now but to take a punt on a local man even when there is no likely man standing out, but let him in now so that he can use whats left of this season to learn the ropes and maybe have something to go on next year.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on March 08, 2010, 08:47:49 PM
I think we could be actually going backwards now...  Thank jaysus I couldn't make it to the game...
Big response needed on Saturday
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on March 08, 2010, 11:31:45 PM
The way i see it,is our game against Fermanagh in the league will decide who gets relegated,
we may survive and even beat Fermanagh in the championship because they seem to be in disarray aswell,But we will go no futher with this panel and management.
This whole scenario with so many of the best players in club football in Cavan not bothering with the county reminds me of of the days Eire Og of Carlow were dominating Leinster Club Football and many of their key men didnt bother or half arsed the Carlow Senior Football team.The same was prevalent in Wicklow as Myles alluded to with Baltinglass and Rathnew having exceptional club teams who killed each other and never pulled together to represent their county. Is that the way Cavan football is going whereby club players with the top senior clubs cant be arsed???
If so we are Division 4 bound and we will stay there until things change.

we have harped on and on about,Boojangles named the players in question,but we just dont have the selection of players in this county to ignore alot of those players named.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on March 09, 2010, 12:50:07 AM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on March 08, 2010, 12:09:52 PM
What I was saying is that you can take a team of players and get the very best out of them by being a good motivator, teaching a work and team ethic and getting some pride in the jersey, as has been proven by Wicklow. Cavan are no world beaters but we are not playing to our full potential and surely we need some man that can instill this.

Couldn't agree more. It's not as if McHugh didn't come in and do precisely this almost 15 years ago to provide us with the example. Bradley has done exactly the same in Antrim. Micko in Wicklow. O'Mahony in Galway. Boylan in Meath. Even Maughan in Mayo although he dirtied his bib since. The likes of Clare are passing us out as well. You can go right back through time and pinpoint numerous examples of how the right manager has made a massive impact in lost and drifting counties where all you ever hear is bullshit about "not having the players".

I'll say this: If there's no longer 15 footballers in Cavan that can hold their own at the lowly third/fourth echelon of intercounty football, then will the last person to abandon the mess altogether just turn off the lights and let us all go find something more rewarding to do with our Sundays. I'd say there's more drive, motivation and fire in the Waterford footballers this minute than there is in Cavan.

I'm past actually giving a bollix about our shambles of a county team anyway, but it's obvious nonetheless that a decent manager would have us at a respectable level at least, so what Carr is actually doing, besides inexorably making us worse, I can't fathom at all. Then again, when he couldn't win a Leinster with Dublin and much of the team went on to dominate the province under different managers in subsequent years, maybe we should have twigged. That said, he was as good as we were going to get at the time, but we'll soon be looking for another.

If he ever works at intercounty level again after this debacle in Cavan, I'll eat my own arse.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on March 09, 2010, 03:03:46 PM
Did Tommy Carr not win a Leinster with Dublin?
I always thought he did.
If not,how in gods name is he still in IC management,screwed up a talented bunch of Rossies and failed to win even the bare requirement with Dublin,a Leinster Title.
It all comes back to the county board,handing off the hiring of the manager to Sportstracker.
Absolute dispicable f**king decision that has turned out to be.
I agree with Myles,Id prefer he was gone before the league is over,and get a new man in and let him have the 2  or at most 3 championship games to have a look at what hes got.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dougal on March 09, 2010, 06:05:13 PM
he needs to go now,at the minute we are going to be in Div 4 next year,and we are only going to have two championship matches.a new manager cant do any worse even if he tried.il not be going to another cavan match under tommy carr.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on March 09, 2010, 06:56:01 PM
I am a bot disappointed we have not got the regular press release from Tommy this week but he could make up for it by just releasing "I Quit" to the media.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on March 09, 2010, 07:14:49 PM
Did Carr not bring Roscommon to the All-Ireland quarter-fina in 2003l? I've also heard from someone within the county set-up that Smith went after Carr without any recommendation from the recruitment crowd.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on March 09, 2010, 09:24:28 PM
Quote from: Lawrence of Knockbride on March 09, 2010, 07:14:49 PM
Did Carr not bring Roscommon to the All-Ireland quarter-fina in 2003l? I've also heard from someone within the county set-up that Smith went after Carr without any recommendation from the recruitment crowd.

In fairness you could understand why someone would take a chance on Carr. He deals with the media well, talks well and anyone that will have met the man will agree that he gives off the impression of being a genuine nice man and a commited fella.

However, over time he has clearly shown that his management skills just aren't up to it. As far as I he does none or very little of the trainin so if he is not motivating the players what is the point of him being there?

He has implemented no game-plan, and has even any individual developed significantly under his guidance. I was pro-Carr when all the shite broke out last time because I felt he deserved another chance to show that the team good improve under him.

Its quite clear though we are now on the road to nowhere and we should change it up.

Only question is, who the feck is there that would (a)want it and (b) be good enough to do it??
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on March 09, 2010, 09:44:32 PM
Quote from: put-it-up on March 09, 2010, 09:24:28 PM
Quote from: Lawrence of Knockbride on March 09, 2010, 07:14:49 PM
Did Carr not bring Roscommon to the All-Ireland quarter-fina in 2003l? I've also heard from someone within the county set-up that Smith went after Carr without any recommendation from the recruitment crowd.

In fairness you could understand why someone would take a chance on Carr. He deals with the media well, talks well and anyone that will have met the man will agree that he gives off the impression of being a genuine nice man and a commited fella.

However, over time he has clearly shown that his management skills just aren't up to it. As far as I he does none or very little of the trainin so if he is not motivating the players what is the point of him being there?

He has implemented no game-plan, and has even any individual developed significantly under his guidance. I was pro-Carr when all the shite broke out last time because I felt he deserved another chance to show that the team good improve under him.

Its quite clear though we are now on the road to nowhere and we should change it up.

Only question is, who the feck is there that would (a)want it and (b) be good enough to do it??

At this point I think it has to be someone local cos who in their right mind outside the county would want it. Problem is the lack of candidates. Clearly we are going to have to take a punt on an inexperienced manager from within the county. How about Ciaran Brady?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on March 09, 2010, 10:33:14 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on March 09, 2010, 09:44:32 PM
Quote from: put-it-up on March 09, 2010, 09:24:28 PM
Quote from: Lawrence of Knockbride on March 09, 2010, 07:14:49 PM
Did Carr not bring Roscommon to the All-Ireland quarter-fina in 2003l? I've also heard from someone within the county set-up that Smith went after Carr without any recommendation from the recruitment crowd.

In fairness you could understand why someone would take a chance on Carr. He deals with the media well, talks well and anyone that will have met the man will agree that he gives off the impression of being a genuine nice man and a commited fella.

However, over time he has clearly shown that his management skills just aren't up to it. As far as I he does none or very little of the trainin so if he is not motivating the players what is the point of him being there?

He has implemented no game-plan, and has even any individual developed significantly under his guidance. I was pro-Carr when all the shite broke out last time because I felt he deserved another chance to show that the team good improve under him.

Its quite clear though we are now on the road to nowhere and we should change it up.

Only question is, who the feck is there that would (a)want it and (b) be good enough to do it??


Ciaran prob is the best candidate that would be available. Mickey Graham will evenutually take it but he is tied up with the minors and If Carr was to go I wouldn't be surprised to see an Interim manager put in place until the end of the season.

That said I don't think we should talk about successors untill he actually goes. I can't see him walking anyway...
At this point I think it has to be someone local cos who in their right mind outside the county would want it. Problem is the lack of candidates. Clearly we are going to have to take a punt on an inexperienced manager from within the county. How about Ciaran Brady?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on March 09, 2010, 10:43:23 PM
Ciaran Brady/Mickey Graham are the two that jump out.
At present form we will lose 3 of our last 4 league games and the game against Fermanagh is up for grabs.
We need to be hoping Fermanagh keep losing games,because if they dont we are up shit creek.
There is no way Carr should still be in place for the championship if Cavan are relegated to Division 4.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on March 09, 2010, 10:48:03 PM
How about Hyland?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on March 09, 2010, 10:50:24 PM
Quote from: Denn Forever on March 09, 2010, 10:48:03 PM
How about Hyland?

Hes certainly done it at club level
If he done well with the under 21's this year,id like to see him get a shot at the senior job.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on March 11, 2010, 06:22:17 PM
Godamnit! Tommy Carr killed the bloody thread as well as the team!

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Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on March 11, 2010, 06:44:43 PM
So Wexford Saturday evening in Breffni??  Any thoughts or comments? Or are we that fed up that going to the match is enough torture without thinking about it beforehand?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on March 11, 2010, 06:58:51 PM
Quote from: Celt_Man on March 11, 2010, 06:44:43 PM
So Wexford Saturday evening in Breffni??  Any thoughts or comments? Or are we that fed up that going to the match is enough torture without thinking about it beforehand?

Wexford made one of the division favourites look quite poor last week and I expect they will win this game too, probably with a bit to spare.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on March 12, 2010, 01:06:10 PM
The one bit of hope I would have is that tomorrow is a bit of do or die, which we were faced with last year up in Newry and produced probably about our best league performance after two very poor performances against Longford and Tipp.

This year was always going to be difficult, we don't have a single lad in the panel who has ever won anything in a Cavan jersey, I'm fairly sure. Mind you it doesn't seem as if Tommy is having great success in getting the best out of what he has, consistently. One good performance followed by two really flat ones seems the norm.

I'll let heart rule head again and go for a much improved performance, a home win and survival in Division 3 (just).
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on March 12, 2010, 01:40:20 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on March 11, 2010, 06:58:51 PM
Quote from: Celt_Man on March 11, 2010, 06:44:43 PM
So Wexford Saturday evening in Breffni??  Any thoughts or comments? Or are we that fed up that going to the match is enough torture without thinking about it beforehand?

Wexford made one of the division favourites look quite poor last week and I expect they will win this game too, probably with a bit to spare.
The way the Sligo boys are talking about it is that Sligo showed about as much spirit as our lads so it wouldn't seem that Wexford had that much part in it. I wouldn't say that Louth made us look like anything last week, except good in the first quarter. No idea about Wexford. I'd guess by looking at results and reports so far that outside of Antrim this division looks like there isn't much difference in any of the other teams so there's one promotion and two relegation places up for grabs.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on March 12, 2010, 02:51:41 PM
Carr makes three changes

Cavan boss Tommy Carr has made three changes in personnel to the side which lost to Louth last weekend for tomorrow night's game against Wexford at Kingspan Breffni Park (throw-in 7.30pm).

John McCutcheon returns at left half-back in place of the suspended Alan Clarke, while Butlersbridge powerhouse Lorcan Mulvey makes his first start in this year's NFL campaign at centre-field at the expense of Ciaran Galligan.

The third change sees Cavan Gaels attacker Micheál Lyng come in at left corner-forward in place of Raymond Galligan.

Positional switches in the team include David Givney's move back from the half-forward line to partner Mulvey in the middle of the park, while Ronan Flanagan is bumped up to right half-forward and Dermot Sheridan comes back into the defence at right half-back.

Cavan (NFL v Wexford): F Reilly; E McPhilips, T Corr, M Cahill; D Sheridan, E McGuigan, J McCutcheon; D Givney, L Mulvey; R Flanagan, G Smith, M McKeever; C Mackey, M Brennan, M Lyng.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on March 12, 2010, 05:49:06 PM
That team looks good with a lot of speed and mobility in the forward line. 

Hopefully the players will have been stung by their poor performance last weekend. and play with a little more heart.

Is Matty Forde still out?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on March 12, 2010, 06:16:29 PM
Mulvey. FFS :-[ :'( >:(
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on March 12, 2010, 06:55:45 PM
As far as I know, wexford are  missing forde and their top-scorer so far this this year although I can't remember his name and PJ Banville.

That team really doesn't inspire confidence although I think we will dig out a win. Put it this way, if the team doesn't show abit of fight at home after the last two showing then they never will..

We really just aren't great individually at  the moment. I mean look at that team. On ratings of 1-10, how many players on that team would get a 7 or above?

But anyway, just because we are poor individually shouldn;t mean we are a shocking team. I mean for f**k sake, if up for the game at all we should be more than capable of competing with other team at this level..

I don't expect us to win an Ulster or All-Ireland but FFS i expect us to compete in Division Three. Even under Keoghan we battled hard in Division Two against teams like Cork and Dublin
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Western Blue on March 12, 2010, 08:11:36 PM
i have good feeling that Cavan and Roscommon will both win this week-end which will open up Div 3.
Double done this afternoon with P.P.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on March 12, 2010, 08:17:07 PM
Quote from: Western Blue on March 12, 2010, 08:11:36 PM
i have good feeling that Cavan and Roscommon will both win this week-end which will open up Div 3.
Double done this afternoon with P.P.

DREAMER ;D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on March 12, 2010, 08:31:30 PM
Quote from: Western Blue on March 12, 2010, 08:11:36 PM
i have good feeling that Cavan and Roscommon will both win this week-end which will open up Div 3.
Double done this afternoon with P.P.

I suppose the curate was giving bad odds.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on March 12, 2010, 08:45:38 PM
Quote from: put-it-up on March 12, 2010, 06:55:45 PM
As far as I know, wexford are  missing forde and their top-scorer so far this this year although I can't remember his name and PJ Banville.

That team really doesn't inspire confidence although I think we will dig out a win. Put it this way, if the team doesn't show abit of fight at home after the last two showing then they never will..

We really just aren't great individually at  the moment. I mean look at that team. On ratings of 1-10, how many players on that team would get a 7 or above?

But anyway, just because we are poor individually shouldn;t mean we are a shocking team. I mean for f**k sake, if up for the game at all we should be more than capable of competing with other team at this level..

I don't expect us to win an Ulster or All-Ireland but FFS i expect us to compete in Division Three. Even under Keoghan we battled hard in Division Two against teams like Cork and Dublin

His name is Ben Brosnan.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on March 12, 2010, 09:02:36 PM
Quote from: ExiledGael on March 12, 2010, 06:06:22 PM
They have numerous players who've been outstanding at Sigerson level.
As much as it's down to attitude, belief, discipline and organisation, they've a group of seriously talented players there.

Some of the reasons why Antrim are going well.  One out of three is all we've got. 

Hopefully we'll be eating our words come Sunday.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on March 12, 2010, 09:19:08 PM
Antrim are a prime example of what can be done when you utilize your strengths and come up with a distinguished game-plan.

We now know the team Carr has picked for the weekend, would you boy's differ much if you were picking it?

Mulvey's inclusion to me is a real gamble that shows just how desperately short we are there. I would much prefer to see Lyng further out the field aswell...he is a much more creative force rather than a scorer IMO.

I was talking to a Dub the other day and he said Nesty is brilliant at Corner-Forward because a)he can win ball and b)kick off both feet. As much as I have been impressed with him on the 40, I wouldn't mind seeing him being swapped with Lyng.

McKeever at WB is another switch I would like to see..
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4sam on March 13, 2010, 09:57:32 PM
Good performance tonight, 0-17 to 0-12. Mackey got 5, Flanagan got 3, Givney got 3, Martin Reilly got 2 when he came on, McKeever Cullivan and Lyng got 1 each and Gareth Smith scored a 45, as far as I know the rest were from play.

Will write more later.......
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on March 13, 2010, 10:05:51 PM
Cold but happy.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dougal on March 13, 2010, 10:32:11 PM
well that was an improvement on last weeks performance.still pretty poor but there was some good football played at times,hopefully we can go on and win another couple of games.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Blue06 on March 14, 2010, 01:22:41 PM
My first League game this year and saw a decent enough performance and result.

Very disappointing crowd there, never seen such a poor attendance for a home league match.
I have going to them for about the last 40 years or so.

Going forward we looked very good with Mackay to the fore, but defending especially from the front was poor.
i.e. Our forwards allowed Wexford build far too easily and often from the back and especially from short kick outs.

Wexford losing a man towards the end definetly helped with the late surge.

Goalkeeper had little to do, kick outs weren't brilliant and I think he'd struggle kicking into a strong wind.

Full backs of Cahill and Carr were very good, McPhillips followed his man out the field for th hour and picked up a load of possession.  Thought the line would have instructed Cahill to follow the Wexford forward out the field but kept him on Ciaran Lyng, kept him to one point and made a brilliant tackle on him (dispossession) when only one point in it with about 5 mins to go.

Half back line were good going forward but fouled a lot when faced with Wexford running at them,usually overlaps from midfield and half back line.

Midfield did well in that won their fair share of possession, Mulvey imo a better option than Walsh.  Givney was good I felt, made numerous marks and scored a couple of points, made some good penetrating runs.

Flannagan scored 3 points in the first half(with more confidence could possibly have went for goal with 2 of them) but was anonymous for a lot of the game. Came well into it for the last 15 or so when needed most.  McKeever likewise drifted in and out of it.  Nesty made a few decent passes in the first half but made a few poor decisions in the second which eventually saw him taken off for Martin Reilly. 

Brennan was poor at FF and was lucky he wasn't taken off earlier.  Lyng was definelty a mixed bag, 3 desparate misses in the first half, did some good work in the second with some brilliant passes.  Mackay was very good, kicked 5 points, set up many others, this despite getting no frees/protection from the referee.  We only got one free inside the Wexford 45 in the whole game.

Subs Martin Reilly kicked a couple of  nice points when he came on.  Cullivan did well when introduced.
Ciaran Galligan also came on and through his weight about, Ray Galligan only came on in injury time.

Heres hoping for a repeat next week.



Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on March 14, 2010, 03:22:13 PM
Wasn't at game but spoke to the brother and he tells me it was a decent performance and that the players were really up for it from the start. Maybe that is the key to the problem. How come we can be up for Roscommon, be totally flat against Antrim and Louth and then licking our wounds get up for the Wexford match. Same happened last yr when we went to Newry and put in a great display only to lose terribly to Offally and Louth. Then the same in the championship. Surely the manager has to make sure lads are chomping at the bit for every game?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on March 14, 2010, 05:44:03 PM
Quote from: Blue06 on March 14, 2010, 01:22:41 PM
My first League game this year and saw a decent enough performance and result.

Very disappointing crowd there, never seen such a poor attendance for a home league match.
I have going to them for about the last 40 years or so.

Going forward we looked very good with Mackay to the fore, but defending especially from the front was poor.
i.e. Our forwards allowed Wexford build far too easily and often from the back and especially from short kick outs.

Wexford losing a man towards the end definetly helped with the late surge.

Goalkeeper had little to do, kick outs weren't brilliant and I think he'd struggle kicking into a strong wind.

Full backs of Cahill and Carr were very good, McPhillips followed his man out the field for th hour and picked up a load of possession.  Thought the line would have instructed Cahill to follow the Wexford forward out the field but kept him on Ciaran Lyng, kept him to one point and made a brilliant tackle on him (dispossession) when only one point in it with about 5 mins to go.

Half back line were good going forward but fouled a lot when faced with Wexford running at them,usually overlaps from midfield and half back line.

Midfield did well in that won their fair share of possession, Mulvey imo a better option than Walsh.  Givney was good I felt, made numerous marks and scored a couple of points, made some good penetrating runs.

Flannagan scored 3 points in the first half(with more confidence could possibly have went for goal with 2 of them) but was anonymous for a lot of the game. Came well into it for the last 15 or so when needed most.  McKeever likewise drifted in and out of it.  Nesty made a few decent passes in the first half but made a few poor decisions in the second which eventually saw him taken off for Martin Reilly. 

Brennan was poor at FF and was lucky he wasn't taken off earlier.  Lyng was definelty a mixed bag, 3 desparate misses in the first half, did some good work in the second with some brilliant passes.  Mackay was very good, kicked 5 points, set up many others, this despite getting no frees/protection from the referee.  We only got one free inside the Wexford 45 in the whole game.

Subs Martin Reilly kicked a couple of  nice points when he came on.  Cullivan did well when introduced.
Ciaran Galligan also came on and through his weight about, Ray Galligan only came on in injury time.

Heres hoping for a repeat next week.




Good summary Blue06 except I wouldn't agree with your view on Mulvey. He was poor throughout just not as comical. I also think you're a little harsh on Brennan. He won quite a bit of ball but sometime his simple lay-offs were not up to scratch. I agree with everything else you said.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Western Blue on March 14, 2010, 06:39:13 PM
 I thought Mulvey did well last evening considering it was his first inter county game in well over a year...he contributed more than Walsh has done to date in the games so far and looked fit.
. The big worry is the number of teams that are running straight down the middle and drawing easy frees.
Here hoping that S. Johnstone is back soon..any news on him. Cian Mackey had a great game,  Full back line is growing in confidence with every game I think
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: handballer09 on March 14, 2010, 07:50:27 PM
Short report and video clip here.

http://www.anglocelt.ie/sport/matchreports/articles/2010/03/13/3995570-cavan-pick-up-second-league-win/
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on March 14, 2010, 09:32:58 PM
Backline fouled a bit much for my liking last night,we still have the problem of letting teams run straight down our middle, Full back line were very solid though.
Eoin McGuigan dropped deep on front of the full back line, and was very good at CHB,cant really blame him for the runners. Dermot Sheridan and McCutcheon were solid if not spectacular.
I thought David Givney was absolutely outstanding bar two times he gave the ball away,his fielding,passing and point scoring were terrific mostly.
Mulvey done rightly,caught a couple of good balls,and put some lovely ball into the Cavan forwards.
Midfield were terrific last night.
Nesty sprayed some lovely ball around last night and kicked a lovely 45,but as Blue06 put in his detailed and very accurate report,he tired.
Cian Mackey was unplayable at times last night,and got mugged by the wexford full back on numerous occasions.
Jimmy McKee of Armagh was a disgrace last night as a gave nothing to Cavan,Mark McKeever was virtually assaulted and no free given,yet if a Cavan man put his hands on a wexford man,it was a free.
Michael Brennan,would be much better suited as a wing forward,where he can use his athleticism and strong running ability.
Martin Reily and Ray made a big difference when they came on.
Michael Lyng could have had about 1-5 only for a few mistakes,he was very influential though,he messed a few balls,but himself and Nesty pulled alot of the strings for Cavan.

I wonder which team will show up in Sligo?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on March 15, 2010, 05:48:53 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on March 14, 2010, 09:32:58 PM
I wonder which team will show up in Sligo?

The six million euro question. If this season continues to follow the pattern of last, as it has eerily been doing, then we'll fall flat on our faces and turn in a listless display, and get beaten.
Hopefully it won't happen obviously, but these improved performances only truly matter if you build on them and turn in another few like it in quick succession - and this team and manager remain open to question as to whether they're capable. Still, let's wait and see.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Western Blue on March 15, 2010, 07:01:58 PM
Winning the the last 3 league matches will define our season from a confidence perspective going into the Championship. In saying that, another year in Div 3 will bring this group of players on with a number  of our U.21 to be brought in also.
Of the games left Sligo are very difficult to beat at home and with E.O'Hara back they can be very physical on a small tight pitch. Offaly are unbeaten at home but can slip up on the road but again are a big physical side.Our last match against Fermanagh is a local derby and even though they look doomed for Div 4 if they loose their next 2 matches they could spoil our party if we were to win the above games.  Fingers crossed!!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on March 18, 2010, 07:45:19 PM
Very quiet on here. Tough assignment on Sunday. Sligo are a gritty team and very hard bet in that tight little pitch. I never fancy Cavan against teams like Sligo that play a real running game. That said I am hearing Sligo are not playing too well at the moment so maybe if we can bring the same intensity as I hear we brought to the last match (and leave the shitty intensity of the previous 2) then we have a chance. That would leave us 2 home games and surely in with a shout for promotion. But using the head and not the heart I'd say Sligo by 1 or 2.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on March 18, 2010, 09:01:16 PM
I think we are waiting to see what team will be sent to Sligo.

Hopefully (to get a comparison) we'll start with the same team and they will play with the same intensity/belief as they did last Saturday.

Come on Cavan.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dougal on March 18, 2010, 09:06:20 PM
I see nic walsh was playin for the gaels,i thought he had an injury and would be out til at very least the last round of the league?whats the best way to markievicz from bhaise?belturbet,blacklion,or is it quicker to go by carrick?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on March 18, 2010, 09:15:06 PM
Quote from: Dougal on March 18, 2010, 09:06:20 PM
I see nic walsh was playin for the gaels,i thought he had an injury and would be out til at very least the last round of the league?whats the best way to markievicz from bhaise?belturbet,blacklion,or is it quicker to go by carrick?

I'd go Ballinamore, Carrick, come of the sliproad of dual carriageway signposted cranmore and head for town center. Ground is on the RH side about a mile of the carriageway.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: whats my name on March 18, 2010, 10:18:04 PM
the quickest way to sligo would be belturbet blacklion far quicker then any of the other routes
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Western Blue on March 18, 2010, 10:21:18 PM
Do we play David Givney against Sligo or keep him for the U.21 match against Down. Is Ray Cullivan eligible to play against Down Also?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dougal on March 18, 2010, 10:34:24 PM
Quote from: Western Blue on March 18, 2010, 10:21:18 PM
Do we play David Givney against Sligo or keep him for the U.21 match against Down. Is Ray Cullivan eligible to play against Down Also?

id say play him,hes young and should still be sharp enough for wed.i see barry reilly played for the U21's in a challenge match,has he made himself available?cullivan is overage this year.

i think il go by blacklion alright,route planner suggests it and id only know sligo from that end.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on March 19, 2010, 02:08:40 PM
Quote from: Western Blue on March 18, 2010, 10:21:18 PM
Do we play David Givney against Sligo or keep him for the U.21 match against Down. Is Ray Cullivan eligible to play against Down Also?

Jaysus no, take him a break and allow the U21s to have a full team and give down a good crack
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: whats my name on March 19, 2010, 10:18:34 PM
the team named same team as last time bar martin reilly comes in for lyng amnd c galligan comes in for givney
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on March 19, 2010, 11:04:49 PM
Lyng/Gaynor/Mckeever/Tierney-all lads that stormed onto the inter county stage in their teenage years and you'd have reckoned a few all star nominations lay ahead. Didn't quite work out for various reasons so on that basis I'm delighted to see young Givney get a rest on Sunday, Put it this way, the medium term future for Cavan depends as much on Wednesday's game against Down as it does on Sunday's match.

Plus Givney's a bit young to carry us at midfield through the summer so between Mulvey/Galligan/Cullivan/Sheridan/Brennan time to step up to the problem spot.

Very perceptive call by my fellow exiled Shamrocks man from out west on this one.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on March 20, 2010, 07:50:58 PM
Glad to see changes to a minimum and Givney being rested so that we won;'t have fitness worries for Wednesday.

All we need is for Cavan to turn up with their game face on.

My glass is half empty.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dougal on March 21, 2010, 02:03:31 PM
Givney wearin no8 and named in the program,looks like hes starting!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Babe Ruth 47 on March 21, 2010, 03:27:59 PM
Some job, listening to the game online on Ocean FM. The commentators seem knowledgable, giving a good sence of the pace of the game and getting the players names right. Nice change from Michael.

Flannagan and Mackey seem to be doing very well.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: trim blue on March 21, 2010, 03:51:18 PM
cavan 13-10 Sligo about 10 mins left
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: trim blue on March 21, 2010, 03:53:05 PM
cavan 13-11 Sligo 29 mins gone 2nd half
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on March 21, 2010, 04:11:06 PM
Got beaten 1-14 to 0-14. Only listening to it on the radio, by god you would need a translator to understand some of the commentating!

Givney only came on, he didn't start.

Hopefully some of you boy's were at it and can fill me in, I couldn't afford to top up the petrol tank after Cheltenham..haha  ;D

What we would give for a bit of consistency!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on March 21, 2010, 04:22:29 PM
winning by 2 with 6 minutes to go and beaten by 3... Christ!!  >:( >:(
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dougal on March 21, 2010, 05:40:15 PM
In all fairness they playd quite well today.sat back a bit near the end and once sligo got the goal they just couldnt stop them.corr let his man slip in behind him again,and thats where the goal came from.mccutcheon came of on a stretcher,hurt his knee.its an improvent from previous weeks,so hope we can keep buildin on it
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Western Blue on March 21, 2010, 06:01:02 PM
Just back from Sligo.Disappointed with the result. We were the better team and played well.
Couldn't get our hands on the ball in the closing minutes to close out the game when we were leading by 2Pt's. Givney probably saving himself for Wed evening against Down as he was not on the ball in the 2nd half.
Cian Mackey had another very good game.Brennan showed well for the ball but fumbles or takes to long . Johnstone was water boy again seems to be moving his arms well could be back soon.
Lyng not listed in the subs....is he sulking because he was taken off against Wexford and left the panel. Could have done with him
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on March 21, 2010, 07:22:21 PM
Quote from: Dougal on March 21, 2010, 05:40:15 PM
In all fairness they playd quite well today.sat back a bit near the end and once sligo got the goal they just couldnt stop them.corr let his man slip in behind him again,and thats where the goal came from.mccutcheon came of on a stretcher,hurt his knee.its an improvent from previous weeks,so hope we can keep buildin on it

fook!! We need that like I need a second arsehole  >:( >:(
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on March 21, 2010, 07:37:47 PM
Quote from: Celt_Man on March 21, 2010, 07:22:21 PM
Quote from: Dougal on March 21, 2010, 05:40:15 PM
In all fairness they playd quite well today.sat back a bit near the end and once sligo got the goal they just couldnt stop them.corr let his man slip in behind him again,and thats where the goal came from.mccutcheon came of on a stretcher,hurt his knee.its an improvent from previous weeks,so hope we can keep buildin on it

fook!! We need that like I need a second arsehole  >:( >:(

He seemed in quite a lot of pain alright.Definitely doesn't look good. The moves made when John came off was probably the losing of the game.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on March 21, 2010, 08:32:27 PM
So was it goodish performance? 

Our achilles heel of letting in late goals rears its head again.  Sounded like a sucker punch.  We really need to learn to kill teams off when we have the chance.

Good performances?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on March 21, 2010, 08:45:55 PM
Was at the game today. Two fairly equally matched teams with Sligo managing to bag a goal and that was the difference. I think our boys tried hard but in a couple of positions we just don't have the quality. Corr wasn't found out at FB until sligo eventually stuck in a few high balls and he was totally caught out by one for the goal. The lad is not a FB but maybe he is the best of what we have? Was impressed with McPhillips - he's a sticky corner back. Martin Cahill got a roasting in the 1st half by David Kelly but he got on top in the 2nd half (Kelly is a very good player so no shame in that). Thought Dermot Shierdan was poor, McCutcheon good and McGuigan was ok. We won midfield marginally in the 1st half with Mulvey and Galligan then carr took of Galligan for some reason and risked Givney. Givney didn't really do much and sligo packed midfield in the later stages of the 2nd half and thats where the game was won. Mulvey got a nice point but is very limited. He has a physical presence alright but has nothing upstairs. Nesty was great in patched and then vanished for long periods of time but got some nice points. Flanagan was a willing runner but for me McKeever offered little. Mackey was outstanding until sligo wised up and put a man in front of him. Brennan made some good runs and won clean ball but always seemed to take the wrong option.

I think this is pretty much our level lads. We can be competitive but lack quality in a few key areas. One other aspect was how easily we were turned over in the tackle where as Sligo seemed to be able to keep the ball for ages (although in typical Sligo fashion they didn't go anywhere with it.) Like I said two average teams, trying hard and fair play to them. However, Cavan are in serious danger of the drop. A desperate Fermanagh team with some of their better players coming back and a Offally team pushing for promotion to come. 2 loses and we are in trouble.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on March 21, 2010, 10:39:45 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on March 21, 2010, 08:45:55 PM
Was at the game today. Two fairly equally matched teams with Sligo managing to bag a goal and that was the difference. I think our boys tried hard but in a couple of positions we just don't have the quality. Corr wasn't found out at FB until sligo eventually stuck in a few high balls and he was totally caught out by one for the goal. The lad is not a FB but maybe he is the best of what we have? Was impressed with McPhillips - he's a sticky corner back. Martin Cahill got a roasting in the 1st half by David Kelly but he got on top in the 2nd half (Kelly is a very good player so no shame in that). Thought Dermot Shierdan was poor, McCutcheon good and McGuigan was ok. We won midfield marginally in the 1st half with Mulvey and Galligan then carr took of Galligan for some reason and risked Givney. Givney didn't really do much and sligo packed midfield in the later stages of the 2nd half and thats where the game was won. Mulvey got a nice point but is very limited. He has a physical presence alright but has nothing upstairs. Nesty was great in patched and then vanished for long periods of time but got some nice points. Flanagan was a willing runner but for me McKeever offered little. Mackey was outstanding until sligo wised up and put a man in front of him. Brennan made some good runs and won clean ball but always seemed to take the wrong option.

I think this is pretty much our level lads. We can be competitive but lack quality in a few key areas. One other aspect was how easily we were turned over in the tackle where as Sligo seemed to be able to keep the ball for ages (although in typical Sligo fashion they didn't go anywhere with it.) Like I said two average teams, trying hard and fair play to them. However, Cavan are in serious danger of the drop. A desperate Fermanagh team with some of their better players coming back and a Offally team pushing for promotion to come. 2 loses and we are in trouble.

Can't argue with nearly all of what you said Myles but the bit in bold, which to me is a crazy staement.  Mc Keever demanded the ball and always was willing to take on Sligo and go at them. Something we are badly lacking.He covered a huge amount of ground and IMO when he had to go back to Half back for Mc Cutcheon is when we started to struggle around the middle and let Sligo back into it. Martin Reilly was a big disappointment out the field doing what McKeever had been doing.
Flanagans work rate is immense and once again he was our best Break winner.He never gives the ball away but unfortunately to most people most of these very important aspects of any players game will go unnoticed.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on March 22, 2010, 03:20:37 PM
Wasnt at the game due to club match,but some questions
Was Galligan injured?  if not why would they take him off if Cavan were doing ok at midfield??  ???
Seems like a moronic decision if Galligan wasnt injured and risk Givney 3 days before an Ulster Championship match.
Was Eoin Smith listed among the subs?
surely theres an oppertunity to move Mossy Corr out to wing back and try Ted at FB if McCutcheon's injury is as bad as it sounds. Smith is very good under the high ball.
Michael Lyng im hearing today has quit the county panel altogether,hes a big loss.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on March 22, 2010, 04:27:05 PM
Jaysus that's not good news about Lyng if it's true....

Any man heard anything about the Under 21s on Wednesday, when will the team be announced?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dougal on March 22, 2010, 05:01:37 PM
dont remember who said the mid field was ok in the first half,but i dont agree with that,thought they were poor enough.

just trying to think if i saw lyng warming up yesterday,i dont think i did.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on March 22, 2010, 05:02:50 PM
I was wondering how long it would take for someone to quit. We rarely go through a season without someone quitting or being kicked off. A huge loss is right. Hopefully it's not true. I hope that anybody that wants to quit their county panel thinks long and hard about it as it's a short career and the regrets will last a lot longer.
Galligan and Mulvey were both on yellow cards. I'd have thought Galligan would've been less likely to pick up a second but there you go. Eoin Smith hasn't been listed among the subs for at least the last two games. It's one of those extremely strange ones with Carr. I watched him play against Tyrone and he did ok considering the pressure he was under. I'd have my doubts if he's still on the panel when you see Johnston and O'Dowd listed and him not. Lyng wasn't named on the bench by the way.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on March 22, 2010, 05:58:02 PM
Mulvey wasn't great but was slightly better than Galligan who was poor. Hopefully Givney came out of yesterday unscathed.Big risk on the managements behalf that could have backfired.
The panel I believe were told last Tuesday night that Lyng had quit the panel.
Eoin Smith was in the stands watching the match yesterday.Don't know if he's injured or dropped.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on March 22, 2010, 06:10:17 PM
Quote from: boojangles on March 22, 2010, 05:58:02 PM
Mulvey wasn't great but was slightly better than Galligan who was poor. Hopefully Givney came out of yesterday unscathed.Big risk on the managements behalf that could have backfired.
The panel I believe were told last Tuesday night that Lyng had quit the panel.
Eoin Smith was in the stands watching the match yesterday.Don't know if he's injured or dropped.

Well I suppose if Cavan were to get relegated, Carr's neck could be on the chopping board so I'll bet he couldn't care less about the Under 21s and so Givney played....
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on March 22, 2010, 06:29:00 PM
Quote from: boojangles on March 22, 2010, 05:58:02 PM
Mulvey wasn't great but was slightly better than Galligan who was poor. Hopefully Givney came out of yesterday unscathed.Big risk on the managements behalf that could have backfired.
The panel I believe were told last Tuesday night that Lyng had quit the panel.
Eoin Smith was in the stands watching the match yesterday.Don't know if he's injured or dropped.
Any idea why?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on March 22, 2010, 06:30:04 PM
Quote from: Dougal on March 22, 2010, 05:01:37 PM
dont remember who said the mid field was ok in the first half,but i dont agree with that,thought they were poor enough.

just trying to think if i saw lyng warming up yesterday,i dont think i did.

It was me who said that but what I meant was that we were winning midfield in the 1st half and picking up a lot of breaks, I could see no real emergency reason to risk Givney - especially since Walsh was also on bench and indeed came on late.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Western Blue on March 22, 2010, 06:51:02 PM
Anyword on John McCutcheon injury lads...he was playing well at the time.I felt Michael Hannon should have subbed for him at the time. what's Micheal Lyng problem that he's left for personal reasons? Was his substitution against Wexford or Carr not playing him at CHF the reason for leaving.   He will be missed.
The Offaly match is a must win game now. Just a pity we can't get back to back wins  because the performance yesterday wasn't bad except for the killer Sligo goal.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on March 22, 2010, 09:02:18 PM
From Western Blue

or Carr not playing him at CHF the reason for leaving (Lyng)

I thought CHF was probably Johnson's best position?

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on March 22, 2010, 09:58:45 PM
Quote from: Lawrence of Knockbride on March 22, 2010, 06:29:00 PM
Quote from: boojangles on March 22, 2010, 05:58:02 PM
Mulvey wasn't great but was slightly better than Galligan who was poor. Hopefully Givney came out of yesterday unscathed.Big risk on the managements behalf that could have backfired.
The panel I believe were told last Tuesday night that Lyng had quit the panel.
Eoin Smith was in the stands watching the match yesterday.Don't know if he's injured or dropped.
Any idea why?

He was taken off against Wexford on the Saturday,wrongly IMO. By Tuesday he was gone. Obviously had something to do with it.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on March 22, 2010, 11:19:01 PM
Nah Johnston thinks he is best on the 40 but for me, with Cavan anyway, the man has to be inside. If we get him and Mackey in there we have two fairly lively men who can do damage.

I'd say Lyng just got pissed off, and I am only guessing here, with being stuck in the corner. Not a natural position for him at all.

I would agree with CM about Carr not giving a shite about the u21's. Sure he is fighting for his job and credibility. So considering he is nothing to do with the u21's and is not a Cavan man I doubt he gives a fiddlers feck how they got on. Rory Dunne and Keating quit the panel so I think that shows what they make of the set-up.

U21's should be strong Wednesday and from what I gather they are at full strength bar Keating, O'Meara and Minnagh. A win would be a great boost and it is not beyond them. But as always, it's all about doing it on the day IMO.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Western Blue on March 23, 2010, 10:13:36 AM
We all get pissed off with decisions in our life but if a player signs up to play for his county he should row in with the Manager and team selectors with the team selection process.
As far as I can see T.Carr wanted M.Lyng to do a job for him while S.Johnstone is unavailable. I agree he played well against Wexford even if his shooting boots weren't there..these things can happen. As it happened on that particular night M.Reilly came on for him  and got 2 points for us when things were very close. I hope he  reconsiders his position. There are plenty of examples each weekend of players playing out of position to do a job for their teams.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on March 23, 2010, 11:06:15 AM
From Hoganstand

Lyng quits Cavan

Cavan's Micheal Lyng
23 March 2010


Micheál Lyng has withdrawn himself from the Cavan senior football panel for the foreseeable future.

The Cavan Gaels playmaker was one of five Breffni stars to help DCU to O'Byrne and Sigerson Cup success recently and had started in three of his county's last four NFL meetings.

However, Lyng was not on the panel during last Sunday's late defeat to Sligo and afterwards manager Tommy Carr stated that he had withdrawn "for personal reasons".

Meanwhile, Cavan Under 21s are set to kick-off their Ulster championship game tomorrow night against defending champions Down at Kingspan Breffni Park, where throw-in is at 8.00pm.

Its an amateur game and if he wants to quit for personal reasons so be it.  Lets hope he hasn't slammed the door shut and he might return when he is able.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dougal on March 23, 2010, 01:21:22 PM
just after being told that ballinagh will be in senior this year.seemingly there was a problem with some of the amalgamations not playing all there games,and ballinagh are allowed to stay in senior.anyone else here this?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on March 23, 2010, 01:25:04 PM
Quote from: Dougal on March 23, 2010, 01:21:22 PM
just after being told that ballinagh will be in senior this year.seemingly there was a problem with some of the amalgamations not playing all there games,and ballinagh are allowed to stay in senior.anyone else here this?
Ballinagh reinstated to senior championship
Ballinagh celebrate their Ulster IFC win in 2007
23 March 2010

by Shane Corrigan

Ballinagh will play their championship football in the senior ranks this summer after their application to be reinstated to the Cavan senior championship was passed by delegates at last night's county board meeting at The Hotel Kilmore.

The club applied to be reinstated to the competition from which they were relegated last year, after Drumgoon/Knockbride amalgamation Drumbride confirmed their withdrawal.

A secret ballot last night showed a 53 to 19 votes majority in favour of Ballinagh being restored to the senior championship, which will see them take Drumbride's place in Group Three alongside Ramor United, Lavey and champions Cavan Gaels.

Their inclusion to the Cavan SFC also means that only 15 teams will compete in this year's intermediate championship, with Group Four now a three-team group between Laragh United, Drumalee and Kill and no relegation from the competition.

This is the second time in as many years that the club have been reinstated to the top tier of club championship football in the county.

In July 2008, Ballinagh were allowed back into the competition following their second appeal to the Competitions Control Committee (CCC), after the club's senior team had originally been banned from all competitions for six months when a senior league match between Ballinagh and Killygarry the previous month saw match referee Gerry Sheridan assaulted by a Ballinagh supporter after the game.

The club were hit with a substantial 6,000-euro fine and weren't allowed to play any league football until the following season or play any home matches for 96 weeks, as a result.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on March 23, 2010, 01:49:44 PM
Sure why doesn't some other team "apply" to play senior and make up a nice even 16 teams. Bit of a joke really.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on March 23, 2010, 01:52:55 PM
Bejaysus...  Don't tell me that these amalgamations  aren't gonna work after it, I thought they were gonna save Cavan football ::) ::) ::)

Things just got a bit more interesting in the Intermediate.  Would expect Drumalee to top that group now and so Kill or Laragh will be in the 1/4s...  Very interesting
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dougal on March 23, 2010, 02:01:31 PM
just heard mad eddie left the panel aswell,thats according to a friend of a lad on the panel.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on March 23, 2010, 02:04:12 PM
Quote from: Dougal on March 23, 2010, 02:01:31 PM
just heard mad eddie left the panel aswell,thats according to a friend of a lad on the panel.

Jaysus they are dropping like flies!!  :(
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on March 23, 2010, 02:14:02 PM
Quote from: Dougal on March 23, 2010, 01:21:22 PM
just after being told that ballinagh will be in senior this year.seemingly there was a problem with some of the amalgamations not playing all there games,and ballinagh are allowed to stay in senior.anyone else here this?

Personally I think it's an inspired decision   (http://ploader.net/files/7bfc16f0b3a779408739cf7aee9a7387.gif)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on March 23, 2010, 02:17:07 PM
Quote from: Homer on March 23, 2010, 02:14:02 PM
Quote from: Dougal on March 23, 2010, 01:21:22 PM
just after being told that ballinagh will be in senior this year.seemingly there was a problem with some of the amalgamations not playing all there games,and ballinagh are allowed to stay in senior.anyone else here this?

Personally I think it's an inspired decision   (http://ploader.net/files/7bfc16f0b3a779408739cf7aee9a7387.gif)

Hmmm I suspect that quietly a few of Intermediate clubs who think they are in contention for the championship this year won't be sorry to see Ballinagh go....
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on March 23, 2010, 02:25:07 PM
You couldn't write this shit if you tried. Why not just leave the senior championship with less teams? Cootehill should've applied to be promoted as they were the losing intermediate finalists and have as much right, more right when you consider the disciplinary problems the 'nagh have had. But the clubs have spoken and all that so what can you do. All we need now to cap a fine week is for a few of the U-21s to go on the beer tonight.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on March 23, 2010, 02:33:24 PM
Quote from: Lawrence of Knockbride on March 23, 2010, 02:25:07 PM
You couldn't write this shit if you tried. Why not just leave the senior championship with less teams? Cootehill should've applied to be promoted as they were the losing intermediate finalists and have as much right, more right when you consider the disciplinary problems the 'nagh have had. But the clubs have spoken and all that so what can you do. All we need now to cap a fine week is for a few of the U-21s to go on the beer tonight.

If they are reading this board it might drive them to the drink. County is some shambles  :o

The Gaels in the Intermediate  is hilarious and now Ballinagh pushed up. Two teams promoted for nathin. What a joke
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on March 23, 2010, 02:53:27 PM
Quote from: Lawrence of Knockbride on March 23, 2010, 02:25:07 PM
You couldn't write this shit if you tried. Why not just leave the senior championship with less teams? Cootehill should've applied to be promoted as they were the losing intermediate finalists and have as much right, more right when you consider the disciplinary problems the 'nagh have had. But the clubs have spoken and all that so what can you do. All we need now to cap a fine week is for a few of the U-21s to go on the beer tonight.

Post of the year wrapped up in mid-March!!  I like your thinking Lawrence!!  I wonder is there another meeting next Monday night where we could shovel this idea through?!?!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on March 23, 2010, 02:59:01 PM
Quote from: Celt_Man on March 23, 2010, 02:53:27 PM
Quote from: Lawrence of Knockbride on March 23, 2010, 02:25:07 PM
You couldn't write this shit if you tried. Why not just leave the senior championship with less teams? Cootehill should've applied to be promoted as they were the losing intermediate finalists and have as much right, more right when you consider the disciplinary problems the 'nagh have had. But the clubs have spoken and all that so what can you do. All we need now to cap a fine week is for a few of the U-21s to go on the beer tonight.

Post of the year wrapped up in mid-March!!  I like your thinking Lawrence!!  I wonder is there another meeting next Monday night where we could shovel this idea through?!?!
Thanks Celt Man, I have been working on my posts. I have to say I was a little disappointed you didn't think of it first. If it was proposed the same clubs that voted for Ballinagh would probably vote for your crowd. I don't think they're concentrating.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on March 23, 2010, 03:19:42 PM
Quote from: Lawrence of Knockbride on March 23, 2010, 02:59:01 PM
Quote from: Celt_Man on March 23, 2010, 02:53:27 PM
Quote from: Lawrence of Knockbride on March 23, 2010, 02:25:07 PM
You couldn't write this shit if you tried. Why not just leave the senior championship with less teams? Cootehill should've applied to be promoted as they were the losing intermediate finalists and have as much right, more right when you consider the disciplinary problems the 'nagh have had. But the clubs have spoken and all that so what can you do. All we need now to cap a fine week is for a few of the U-21s to go on the beer tonight.

Post of the year wrapped up in mid-March!!  I like your thinking Lawrence!!  I wonder is there another meeting next Monday night where we could shovel this idea through?!?!
Thanks Celt Man, I have been working on my posts. I have to say I was a little disappointed you didn't think of it first. If it was proposed the same clubs that voted for Ballinagh would probably vote for your crowd. I don't think they're concentrating.
Maybe I did but it always sounds better if someone else came up with the idea first!  I find the whole thing laughable.... So out of the 2 bottom teams in the league last year and the one team which was relegated from the Senior Championship, a grand total of 0 out of those 3 teams were actually relegated... in fairness that's a good trick if you can pull it off!!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on March 23, 2010, 03:27:12 PM
Maghera have a strong lobby, maybe they could talk themselves into Senior football at cootehills expense. f**k it, why not let every team into the senior championship. All 40 teams play each other home and away and the final is on new years eve 2012!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on March 23, 2010, 03:49:32 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on March 23, 2010, 03:27:12 PM
Maghera have a strong lobby, maybe they could talk themselves into Senior football at cootehills expense. f**k it, why not let every team into the senior championship. All 40 teams play each other home and away and the final is on new years eve 2012!
Thats still a better idea than what the County Board would come up with Myles.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on March 23, 2010, 03:54:20 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on March 23, 2010, 03:27:12 PM
Maghera have a strong lobby, maybe they could talk themselves into Senior football at cootehills expense. f**k it, why not let every team into the senior championship. All 40 teams play each other home and away and the final is on new years eve 2012!

Them fookers Maghera have had it in for us for years....   ;D ;D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on March 23, 2010, 06:44:38 PM
Eddie Reilly left the panel a few weeks back.He wasn't on the panel for the Wexford game. He will be sorely missed. ::)

I don't know what to think of the whole Ballinagh farce.Along with games against our beloved neighbours,it is one fixture Drumalee has always looked forward to and when the draw was announced I was happy as it was easy to get the blood going, looking forward to that fixture.
But lets be honest, on the other hand, we (along with BH Man,Celt Man etc) would be quietly happy that one of the favourites are now gone from the competition.
You really would have to ask questions how this really should be allowed though.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dougal on March 23, 2010, 06:46:28 PM
cavan gaa has more f**kin twists and turns than home and away,like lawrence said,you couldnt write this shit.i was happy to see they decided to stagger times for the league games,now i can actually see teams other than my own.now they go and do this.if anyone should go up it should be cootehill.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on March 23, 2010, 08:53:29 PM
Quote from: Dougal on March 23, 2010, 06:46:28 PM
cavan gaa has more f**kin twists and turns than home and away,like lawrence said,you couldnt write this shit.i was happy to see they decided to stagger times for the league games,now i can actually see teams other than my own.now they go and do this.if anyone should go up it should be cootehill.
What's this staggering you mention?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dougal on March 23, 2010, 09:00:26 PM
stagger is the right word isnt it?some league games are on,on sat,then some on sun at 2,then the rest at half 3.real diehards will be fit to get in 3 league matches most weeks.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on March 24, 2010, 10:31:22 AM
Has a team been anounced for tonight lads?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on March 24, 2010, 12:30:42 PM
Quote from: Lawrence of Knockbride on March 24, 2010, 10:31:22 AM
Has a team been anounced for tonight lads?

The guys on the panel don't even know the team yet!

From Hoganstand
Brady back training with Cavan

Cavan's Paul Brady
24 March 2010


World Handball Champion Paul Brady has returned to training with the Cavan senior football squad and hopes to be available for selection for the county's final league game against Fermanagh on April 11.

While Tommy Carr's men target their third win in Division Three this weekend when they take on Offaly at Kingspan Breffni Park, Brady will be looking see off Dublin rival Eoin Kennedy in the All-Ireland Senior Singles semi-final as he aims for his seventh crown.

"The goal at the beginning of the year was to get back playing football for April and things are going well, so I'm hoping to be available for selection for the last league game," said the Mullahoran man.

"In terms of the injury, I'm as good as I can be for handball."

Don't know if this is good news as for the last few years when Paul has battled for fitness he never brings good luck to Cavan teams.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on March 24, 2010, 02:16:29 PM
Quote from: Dougal on March 23, 2010, 06:46:28 PM
cavan gaa has more f**kin twists and turns than home and away,like lawrence said,you couldnt write this shit.i was happy to see they decided to stagger times for the league games,now i can actually see teams other than my own.now they go and do this.if anyone should go up it should be cootehill.

Lawrence's proposal is starting to gather momentum...
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on March 24, 2010, 03:35:16 PM
Any word on the Under 21 team yet?  Any of ye heading to it?  Can't make it over to it unfortunately.

On another word what do you make about having the Junior games on before the seniors games this year in the league?  Will most clubs try to put out two separates teams of 15?  Would many clubs actually be fit to do that?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dougal on March 24, 2010, 06:05:38 PM
Quote from: Celt_Man on March 24, 2010, 03:35:16 PM
Any word on the Under 21 team yet?  Any of ye heading to it?  Can't make it over to it unfortunately.

On another word what do you make about having the Junior games on before the seniors games this year in the league?  Will most clubs try to put out two separates teams of 15?  Would many clubs actually be fit to do that?

im going to tip into watch it anyway,looking forward to it.

it's a good idea,stops teams from filling up with seniors,more players get playing,improve the burnout situation(if it exists).we will get it hard without fielding half a minor team id say.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dougal on March 24, 2010, 08:40:22 PM
The lads are playin great stuff.ref not giving us a hate though!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on March 24, 2010, 08:44:22 PM
Quote from: Dougal on March 24, 2010, 08:40:22 PM
The lads are playin great stuff.ref not giving us a hate though!
Score??
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on March 24, 2010, 08:45:57 PM
Just see it on another thread, has Cavan winning 2 - 6 to 0 - 1 at half time....  ;D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on March 24, 2010, 09:29:41 PM
Full time score of Cavan 3-14 1-08 Down, that right Dougal??

Must have been some performance!!  Well done fellas!!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on March 24, 2010, 09:40:58 PM
f**k sake dougal are you Declan Woods, on d'internet at the game.
Stroll in the park for the lads. Very good performances but a complete mismatch and it'd be intersting to find out how many of the Down lads were off that winning minor team. Best in the first half (when it mattered) were McClarey, Graham and Smith whose running is just unreal when he gets a bit of grass in front of him. Givney took his time to get going but when he did he was superb as was Gearoid McKiernan. Shouldn't exclude the other lads though. Darragh Tighe had a fine game at corner back and Hyland threw on a lot of subs. Monaghan were beating Antrim so I think we have them next. Probably could've done with a harder game to be honest but we'll take it with both feet on the ground. The car park at the back of the stand was allowed to be emptied for 15 minutes after the game. Could you imagine the poor Down fans sitting their trying to get out early?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4sam on March 24, 2010, 10:00:31 PM
Lawrence could you list the team for us?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on March 24, 2010, 10:04:28 PM
Not quite but.........
1. O'Mara
2. Sorry, don't know.
3. Rory Dunne
4. Darragh Tighe.
17. Daniel Graham
6. McEnroe
7. Tomas Reilly
8 Gearoid McKiernan
9.Givney
10. Niall Smith
11. McDermott
18 Barry Reilly
13 Bud Fitz
14 Declan McKiernan
15 McClarey.

Subs. Michael Reilly, Shane Tierney, Some other smith, Brendan someone..............sorry lads can't remember, I was being revived by the paramedics.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on March 24, 2010, 10:05:24 PM
What a way to celebrate 50 posts? I must talk some shite.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on March 24, 2010, 10:29:01 PM
Good performance.

Standouts were Givney and McKeirnan at full forward.  The down team didn't seem to be up to much.

Not too much opposition so what will it be like against better opposition still awaits.  But Fcuk it we won and won well.  Can't get better than that!

Note to Terry.  Don't let that team study the senior team.  On the other hand Tommy you could do worse than .....
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: handballer09 on March 24, 2010, 10:29:11 PM
Cavan 3-14
Down 1-8

Great result tonight in Breffni Park.

Report:
http://www.anglocelt.ie/sport/matchreports/articles/2010/03/24/3995916-cavan-under-21s-rout-down-in-ulster-opener/
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on March 24, 2010, 10:35:23 PM
Well done to the Under 21's. This is where I really want to see Cavan do well and I'm delighted to see we made no mistake and buried the opposition. Hopefully they can keep their feet on the ground and just concentrate on the next match and no further after that.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dougal on March 24, 2010, 10:49:43 PM
lawrence,i just like to let lads know that were doing well,not much else to be at,at half time either.monaghan next?anyone know where?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on March 24, 2010, 11:07:50 PM
Should be taken as a compliment Dougal. Presume neutral venue. Brewster Park perhaps. More importantly, when?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dougal on March 24, 2010, 11:12:42 PM
Quote from: Lawrence of Knockbride on March 24, 2010, 11:07:50 PM
Should be taken as a compliment Dougal. Presume neutral venue. Brewster Park perhaps. More importantly, when?

next wed,from the report in the celt.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on March 25, 2010, 08:27:39 AM
Martin Smith of Laragh was in goals last night.
Hopefully they can keep their feet on the ground as Monaghan next week will be a totally different kettle of fish. I believe that the venue is a toss between Inniskeen or Breifni.
Well done to Terry Hyland and the management for the excellent game plan and sticking to it.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on March 25, 2010, 11:41:12 AM
Based in Dublin,so i couldnt get down.
What delights me about that team is the amount of big men on it,Rory Dunne,James McEnroe,Tomas Reily,Givney, Gearoid McKiernan etc.
Daniel Graham  Declan McKiernan  and Paddy Carroll and Brendan Murray who came on arent small either.
Im guesing thats Michael O Reily(Shercock( that came on aswell,Another promising player with size.
As boojangles said though,Monaghan will be a different proposition altogether, as by all accounts they have a very strong outfit this year.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on March 25, 2010, 01:31:49 PM
Celt Man, should Colm Smith not be part of the U-21 panel or is he away?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Blue06 on March 25, 2010, 01:38:45 PM
Missing Players on U21

Keating, Mininagh & O'Meara are all injured at present I'm told.

Barry Watters is working in Asia

Where is Niall Murray Cavan Gaels though? 
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on March 25, 2010, 01:40:48 PM
I think (but not sure) that Murray might be gone abroad. Just thought of Watters last night myself.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on March 25, 2010, 02:25:15 PM
Watters is in Asia and Murray is in Australia. Both are very good player's and would have added a bit to the team.

Was a great performance last night and was very impressed with the workrate, particularly from the forwards.

However I wouldn't be getting over-excited. Down were a poor, poor side and Monaghan will be a big step up. Down kicked 6 or 7 wides towards the end of the first half, so it coulda been a lot closer at the break.

Grimley will know a lot of Cavan lads from his time with DCU, particularly Niall Smith and I'm sure they will know what to expect.

Promises to be a good game next week, but we have it all to do.

Colm Smith is over-age Lawrence.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on March 25, 2010, 04:54:02 PM
Is he? I thought he played on the same minor team as these lads? Bad memory when it comes to minor county teams. Probably for the best. ;D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on March 25, 2010, 04:56:01 PM
Quote from: Lawrence of Knockbride on March 25, 2010, 04:54:02 PM
Is he? I thought he played on the same minor team as these lads? Bad memory when it comes to minor county teams. Probably for the best. ;D

Na Colm is over age and in college in Manchester anyway
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Mid Down Gael on March 25, 2010, 05:48:53 PM
Have to say i was very impressed with your under 21s last night. A very physical side who where tactically astute and put together some fantastic passages off play. Our lads failed to turn up and are not as bad as they played last night, just an off day and up against a much better team. Well done Cavan, i really hope yous go on and win ulster and beyond and as long as the team dont get carried away and play the way they showed they are capable off in next rounds, they will take some stopping.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on March 25, 2010, 06:40:49 PM
Quote from: Mid Down Gael on March 25, 2010, 05:48:53 PM
Have to say i was very impressed with your under 21s last night. A very physical side who where tactically astute and put together some fantastic passages off play. Our lads failed to turn up and are not as bad as they played last night, just an off day and up against a much better team. Well done Cavan, i really hope yous go on and win ulster and beyond and as long as the team dont get carried away and play the way they showed they are capable off in next rounds, they will take some stopping.

+1

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on March 25, 2010, 06:56:44 PM
Quote from: Mid Down Gael on March 25, 2010, 05:48:53 PM
Have to say i was very impressed with your under 21s last night. A very physical side who where tactically astute and put together some fantastic passages off play. Our lads failed to turn up and are not as bad as they played last night, just an off day and up against a much better team. Well done Cavan, i really hope yous go on and win ulster and beyond and as long as the team dont get carried away and play the way they showed they are capable off in next rounds, they will take some stopping.

I hope there was no talk of winning All Ireland on tv interviews last night so!!  ::)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: offthebeatentrack on March 25, 2010, 08:28:04 PM
 Michael Lyng has quit the Cavan football panel, it was confirmed on Monday.

The 25-year-old has informed manager Tommy Carr that he will be spending the summer months in Africa doing charity work.   
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on March 25, 2010, 09:02:59 PM
Quote from: offthebeatentrack on March 25, 2010, 08:28:04 PM
Michael Lyng has quit the Cavan football panel, it was confirmed on Monday.

The 25-year-old has informed manager Tommy Carr that he will be spending the summer months in Africa doing charity work.   
Someone said they heard that but I assumed they were joking.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: handballer09 on March 26, 2010, 12:30:26 PM
U21 semi v Monaghan set for Enniskillen.

http://www.anglocelt.ie/sport/localgaa/articles/2010/03/26/3995918-under-21-semi-set-for-enniskillen/
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: handballer09 on March 26, 2010, 04:50:42 PM
Two changes for Offaly match.

http://www.anglocelt.ie/sport/localgaa/articles/2010/03/26/3995920-walsh-returns-for-cavan/
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4sam on March 26, 2010, 06:10:02 PM
Ciaran Galligans Granny died yesterday morning and her funeral is tomorrow morning so that is probably the reason he is not included.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on March 27, 2010, 12:17:16 AM
Denn full back again. Looks like thats the way it going to go. 

Tomas at full back although people think he should  be used further outfield  but he seems to be growng into the position (hope I haven't put the hex on him). 
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on March 27, 2010, 12:27:23 AM
Quote from: Denn Forever on March 27, 2010, 12:17:16 AM
Denn full back again. Looks like thats the way it going to go. 

Tomas at full back although people think he should  be used further outfield  but he seems to be growng into the position (hope I haven't put the hex on him).

I dunno, I still think he looks a bit awkward at full-back and would like to see Eoin Smith given at least a chance at some stage but I don' think it is going to come. Dunne impressed for thee u21's the other night, I think he could grow into that role. I like the two Denn corner backs thought, very tight and sticky.

Good to see Hannon getting a start as well at WB, has more football in him than what most believe.

Senior midfield for this weekend is a big, big worry. I honestly think the u21 midfield would destroy them in a game.

What time is the game sat anyway?

Just re-read old posts and thought how nice it was that Lyng's charity work in South Africa will coincidice with the World Cup isn't it..haha  ;D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on March 27, 2010, 10:02:29 AM
Quote from: Denn Forever on March 27, 2010, 12:17:16 AM
Denn full back again. Looks like thats the way it going to go. 

Tomas at full back although people think he should  be used further outfield  but he seems to be growng into the position (hope I haven't put the hex on him).

Don't think so Denn man. It took sligo 60 minutes to figure out we couldn't deal with a high ball into the defense. I'm afraid when some team starts doing it from the first minute that we will be in trouble. I hope he does grow into though, it can't be easy to be thrown in there having never really played it before and then coming up against inter county forwards every weekend.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Babe Ruth 47 on March 27, 2010, 08:37:47 PM
Tynan and his buddy are having a conversaton about Barrack Obama and whether he wears glasses! Suit them better to refer to the game. 2 points in it.........I think, Tynan isn't overly bothered with the score.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Babe Ruth 47 on March 27, 2010, 09:03:00 PM
Good win, seems like a powerful finish. 20 - 14.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: trim blue on March 27, 2010, 09:14:29 PM
That counts as a good week's work
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on March 27, 2010, 09:20:02 PM
In exile so had to listen on northen sound. It was close at times but seems like we made a burst at the right time. Now funny enough, if Fermanagh beat Sligo and Ros beat Wexford tomorrow, I believe we will be 2nd in the group going into the last round. Amazing how close these leagues can be.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on March 27, 2010, 10:28:29 PM
Il give you a match report Myles,before i go on the beer,Very good performance in the most part,Cavan went 0-7 0-2 up,then were dragged back to 7 all,then went 12-7 up and dragged back level,
Offaly had no answer to our last scoring burst.

1.Fintan Reily,Kickouts were not good,he had his half backs with in trouble a few times,with poor kicks. He needs to get that sorted.

2.Eoin McPhilips,sticky,solid,Cavan went man for man with no extra help in front.

3.Tomas Corr,very good first half,one scary movement in the second half when he was caught ball watching and let his man in behind. Solid.

4.Martin Cahill,He had the unenviable task of watching one of the best footballers in the country Niall McNamee one on one with no extra players dropped in front,and he struggled at times,McNamee is a class act and was the focal point of all of Offaly's attacks. He can be happy enough,with his nights work as he done aswell as anyone could.

5.Dermot Sheridan,started brightly,then went off injured,hamstring/quad injury it looked.Replaced by Dane O Dowd

6.Eoin McGuigan,done well,powered forward at times and kicked an insurance point at the end.Belongs at this level.

7.Michael Hannon,his first start this year,powered forward at times,but his legs understandably gave out in the second half.

8.Nicholas Walsh,Two marks,disrupted a physically bigger Offaly midfield sector,made one crucial disposession which led to a Cavan score at a crucial period.

9.Lorcan Mulvey,two marks aswell and kicked one point near the end,struggled at times with Offaly's powerful surging runs from deep. Competed well with a taller Offaly midfield.

10.Ronan Flanagan,got on a massive amount of ball and always proved to be an outlet,kicked a great score,an all round very good performance from Flanagan.

11.Gareth Smith-Nesty was outstanding tonight,carried the ball well,kicked a couple of points from play and his free taking was in the most part top notch,It was his delivery of ball into Mackey and Brennan however that was the key part in Cavan's terrific attacking performance.

12.Mark McKeever,scored the point of the game for me,when he took the ball off Brennan at pace and kicked over,solid and gave good ball into Mackey and Brennan aswell.

13.Martin Reily,the killygarry clubman didnt have his best outing,hes still tooo light and not near strong enough for this level,replaced by Ray Cullivan.

14.Michael Brennan,kicked 3 points from play and 2 wides,hes a good focal point for an attack and set McKeever up for a great score,Has great first touch and handling ability when taking in low bouncing ball,no flapping at it,which allows him to transfer the ball away quickly to runners,a very good option here.

15.Cian Mackey, Again simply unplayable,finished with 0-8 or 0-9,destoryed Shane Sullivan,kicking 0-3 in the first 10 minutes,his ball handling/first touch has improved immensely,other years when he would be needing 1/2 attempts to get the ball,this year,handling is solid,and his accuracy with the exception of one occasion was top notch.
He must be one of the most in-form players in the country.

Subs
Dane O Dowd-struggled on Ciaran McManus at first,but had a very good second half,hes an option here anyway.
Pauric Reily,got on the ball a bit going forward,when Cavan were playing keep ball.
Ray Cullivan,Ray wasnt on for that long and didnt impact the game a terrible amount,got on the ball a few times and done the simple things right.

All in all a very good perfomrance,with some terrific football at times.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on March 27, 2010, 10:52:46 PM
I'm glad to see Mackey doing so well. I was pretty critical of him in the past for being headless and lacking a football brain. However, he has made a bollocks out of me and I have to say has improved hugely. He is a fantastic option now in that he has shown he can be lethal at corner forward and last year he was very good in a deeper role. So fair play to the lad I say.

I thought Brennan gave did everything right against Sligo in his runs and handling, he just let himself down with his final decision. Sounds like he is coming good at the right time and he will also be a good option at FF.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on March 27, 2010, 11:01:07 PM
http://www.anglocelt.ie/sport/matchreports/articles/2010/03/27/3995926-cavan-defeat-offaly/
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BigMac on March 27, 2010, 11:33:02 PM
Great to get another win under the belt. Lets home we can keep this form, and not revert to the yoyo form were used to. Mackey is on the form of his life. It should make for an interesting full forward line with him and Johnson in each corner, when Seanie comes back. Hopefully it will work as well in reality as it does in my head!
I really should know this but who is the captain? Is it still Flannagan?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on March 27, 2010, 11:39:39 PM
Mackey's emergence and development has been a massive positive and him and Johnston in the corners should cause a few problems in the summer if Nesty, McKeever and Flanagan keep good quality ball coming in. I think we have a very good mobile half forward line there.

Fair play to Mackey, I used to find him so frustrating but he has really kicked on this year.

Be great if we did get promoted but I wouldn't be overly worried about it.

Building towards the summer, which of course is what the league is really about, I would still have a few concerns about us definitely. A couple of lads that TC has tried have taken their chances in fairness to them but there are still a fair few amount of places up for grabs.

I'm still not convinced about Fintan, Corr and our midfield although I think Givney will be there come the summer.

Anyone have any opinions on how McGuigan is getting on at centre=back and Brennan at full-forward? From what I have seen, both have been good in patches..


Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: trim blue on March 28, 2010, 03:31:52 PM
Brennan definitely a better option at FF than Eddie but I would have Cullivan in there come the summer, Brennan is athletic and a sound footballer but to my mind is very ordinary, thought he was very poor against Louth (one of many mind you) his handling and passing was poor and he missed an absolute sitter from 10 yards out. Having said that the reports from the last 2 matches have him playing much better. Think he suffers from being too versatile and having no best position. I like McGuigan, good on the ball and a nice bit of heft which you need at CHB (gets that from the mothers Monaghan side), these games will bring him on well.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on March 28, 2010, 05:07:58 PM
Nothing to do with Cavan but funny none the less. Check out the Monaghan U21 goalkeepers tackles last wednesday..Hilarious.

http://vimeo.com/channels/95220#10444322
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on March 28, 2010, 07:42:11 PM
Well our outside chance of promotion is now gone but at least we retain our div 3 status with a game to spare.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on March 28, 2010, 08:03:38 PM
Wexford and Sligo loss and Cavan win would leave all on 8

Wexford beat Sligo
Cavan beat Wexford
Sligo beat Cavan

wouldnt it come down to points difference then?

Chances of it happening now is slight though.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on March 28, 2010, 09:01:45 PM
Jaysus these rules are a bit daft.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dougal on March 28, 2010, 10:35:25 PM
Still a small possibility of us getting promoted,but,is that a good,i dont were fit for div 2 at the moment.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on March 28, 2010, 11:37:34 PM
And now for Wednesday.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dougal on March 28, 2010, 11:56:37 PM
HS,if we go up,tommy wil be kept on as manager,thats not what i want,bt ye,why not give it a go?hope the u21 win on wed,plenty of talent,and should be well fit to win
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on March 29, 2010, 12:17:20 AM
Quote from: hardstation on March 29, 2010, 12:09:15 AM
Quote from: Dougal on March 28, 2010, 11:56:37 PM
HS,if we go up,tommy wil be kept on as manager,thats not what i want,bt ye,why not give it a go?hope the u21 win on wed,plenty of talent,and should be well fit to win
That is the most fcuked up logic I have ever heard. In saying that, yis got rid of Keoghan for fcuk all (actually, he got yis promoted too, didn't he?).
Who the feck would take that job? Strange bunch of supporters. As soon as you get promoted, you get binned. Jaysus...

With the recession I'd say we can barely afford Carr's eh, expenses! ;D

Ah no boy's for feck sake, I'm no big fan of TC and I think after a year and a half in the job we still have not particular way of playing, but I wouldn't wish we didn't get promoted just to get rid of him.

Tough tough task for the u21's on Wednesday. Monaghan will be very strong and had at least three starting with the senior team today.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on March 29, 2010, 11:35:01 AM
Quote from: hardstation on March 29, 2010, 12:09:15 AM
Quote from: Dougal on March 28, 2010, 11:56:37 PM
HS,if we go up,tommy wil be kept on as manager,thats not what i want,bt ye,why not give it a go?hope the u21 win on wed,plenty of talent,and should be well fit to win
That is the most fcuked up logic I have ever heard. In saying that, yis got rid of Keoghan for fcuk all (actually, he got yis promoted too, didn't he?).
Who the feck would take that job? Strange bunch of supporters. As soon as you get promoted, you get binned. Jaysus...[/size]

You forget HS, we are Cavan.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on March 29, 2010, 01:41:57 PM
Approaching Enniskillen the Belturbet way i.e. its probably the Enniskillen-Sligo road how do I get to Brewster Park?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on March 29, 2010, 01:50:20 PM
Quote from: Denn Forever on March 29, 2010, 01:41:57 PM
Approaching Enniskillen the Belturbet way i.e. its probably the Enniskillen-Sligo road how do I get to Brewster Park?

Head into the town as far as the first roundabout and take a right off it.   Brewster Park is on a slip road off to the left a couple of hundred metres after that as far as I can remember
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on March 29, 2010, 01:51:59 PM
Quote from: Celt_Man on March 29, 2010, 01:50:20 PM
Quote from: Denn Forever on March 29, 2010, 01:41:57 PM
Approaching Enniskillen the Belturbet way i.e. its probably the Enniskillen-Sligo road how do I get to Brewster Park?

Head into the town as far as the first roundabout and take a right off it.   Brewster Park is on a slip road off to the left a couple of hundred metres after that as far as I can remember

You have to remember to take the right bridge 1st. When you come in the erne is on your right. Go straight past 1st bridge, then immediately turn right to cross the 2nd one. Then you come to a cross roads, go left there. Then you get to the roundabout  and its a left
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Western Blue on March 29, 2010, 03:12:46 PM
Any word on John McCutcheon leg injury from the Sligo game..is it long term or will he be back for the Fermanagh game? Told this morning that Seanie Johnston is out of action for this season...huge loss as him self,Brennan and Mackey would be a real treat to any defence.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on March 29, 2010, 03:13:39 PM
Quote from: Western Blue on March 29, 2010, 03:12:46 PM
Any word on John McCutcheon leg injury from the Sligo game..is it long term or will he be back for the Fermanagh game? Told this morning that Seanie Johnston is out of action for this season...huge loss as him self,Brennan and Mackey would be a real treat to any defence.

Johnston was kicking points on the 3G pitch in Breffni last week..
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on March 29, 2010, 03:16:43 PM
Quote from: Western Blue on March 29, 2010, 03:12:46 PM
Any word on John McCutcheon leg injury from the Sligo game..is it long term or will he be back for the Fermanagh game? Told this morning that Seanie Johnston is out of action for this season...huge loss as him self,Brennan and Mackey would be a real treat to any defence.

Nope hasn't even had a scan on it yet...
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on March 29, 2010, 04:12:30 PM
Hope this delay in scanning won't mess up his injury more.  Is it due to the new rules of expenses for physiotherapy?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on March 29, 2010, 04:14:58 PM
Quote from: Denn Forever on March 29, 2010, 04:12:30 PM
Hope this delay in scanning won't mess up his injury more.  Is it due to the new rules of expenses for physiotherapy?

No I don't reckon it is but I have no doubt it is delaying his recovery.  Sure how do you know what action to take (rehab, surgery rest etc) if you don't know what the problem actually is.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on March 29, 2010, 04:57:39 PM
Quote from: Dougal on March 28, 2010, 11:56:37 PM
HS,if we go up,tommy wil be kept on as manager,thats not what i want,bt ye,why not give it a go?hope the u21 win on wed,plenty of talent,and should be well fit to win

i wouldnt disagree with ya on much Dougal,but i must do so here,
If Carr gets us promoted to Division Two,beats Fermanagh in the championship,and gets us a few rounds further in the qualifiers in the championship(im saying this in that i dont think we will beat Monaghan/Derry/Armagh in an Ulster Semi final)
then i would be of the opinion he should be given the third year in his term.
He has to be given credit in that he has had the team playing some terrific football at times in games against Roscommon/Wexford/Offaly. We rightly criticised him for the bad points(Antrim/Louth),so he deserves some credit when its due.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Western Blue on March 29, 2010, 05:33:46 PM
Went to McHale Park to watch Mayo/Monaghan . Their playing a different game to stuff I have seen so far in Div 3. Speed/Movement and intensity from both sets of players was impressive.
Their U21 players Kevin Hughes,Colin Walshe and livewire Conor McManus had all very good games and looked comfertable playing at senior level.  We will have a job curbing these fellows on Wednesday evening. Not sure if Darren Hughes is u21...some tank of man, kicked a free from 65 yards out from the deck.  Fingers crossed for a Cavan win.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on March 29, 2010, 06:44:04 PM
Quote from: Western Blue on March 29, 2010, 03:12:46 PM
Any word on John McCutcheon leg injury from the Sligo game..is it long term or will he be back for the Fermanagh game? Told this morning that Seanie Johnston is out of action for this season...huge loss as him self,Brennan and Mackey would be a real treat to any defence.
How would you rate the reliability of your source?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Western Blue on March 29, 2010, 07:36:32 PM
His father was speaking to a cousin of mine only last week in Cavan Town about Seanie injury.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4sam on March 29, 2010, 09:15:46 PM
I was just talking to one of the lads on the panel there now and he said that Seanie Johnston is taking part in training sessions but is not getting involved in any of the contact. Reckons he will be back before the championship.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: FermGael on March 29, 2010, 09:27:04 PM
down with that sort of thing.
we have enough problems without Johnston being fit
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on March 29, 2010, 11:10:16 PM
Quote from: cavan4sam on March 29, 2010, 09:15:46 PM
I was just talking to one of the lads on the panel there now and he said that Seanie Johnston is taking part in training sessions but is not getting involved in any of the contact. Reckons he will be back before the championship.

He still can't bend the arm proper so it may take longer than expected but he still shud be right for Championship.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Western Blue on March 29, 2010, 11:15:21 PM
Can someone confirm/deny that the Chairman of the Cavan Gaa County Board Tom O'Reilly presently lives/resides in Co.Mayo??
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on March 29, 2010, 11:59:08 PM
Quote from: Western Blue on March 29, 2010, 11:15:21 PM
Can someone confirm/deny that the Chairman of the Cavan Gaa County Board Tom O'Reilly presently lives/resides in Co.Mayo??

Nearly 100% sure he lives in Blacklion but he is originally from Mayo, Bellmullet I think.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on March 30, 2010, 12:23:46 AM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on March 29, 2010, 11:59:08 PM
Quote from: Western Blue on March 29, 2010, 11:15:21 PM
Can someone confirm/deny that the Chairman of the Cavan Gaa County Board Tom O'Reilly presently lives/resides in Co.Mayo??

Nearly 100% sure he lives in Blacklion but he is originally from Mayo, Bellmullet I think.

In fairness to the man, I don't think its possible that he could be living in Mayo unless he has a private jet.He attends alot of meetings or other functions and even can be seen at alot of games at al levels during the week. He is a Mayo man and is retired from the prison service but as I believe,he resides in Blacklion.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Western Blue on March 30, 2010, 10:36:41 AM
I know he is retired but I was told yesterday that he was now back living in Mayo and if it were true it just seems a lot of commuting to carry out his duties.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on March 30, 2010, 01:29:05 PM
Is the snow pretty bad at home there?  bad enough for the games to be cancelled at the weekend??

Is the Under 21 match in doubt tomorrow night so?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on March 30, 2010, 01:33:17 PM
Snow very bad around Cavan Town but nothing up Kingscourt direction. Forecast says that it should ease this evening but not stop. Some luck when it's been dry half of March and now it starts to snow as we enter April. Hopefully tomorrow night well get the go-ahead
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dougal on March 30, 2010, 01:34:58 PM
good bit of snow so far,it's not sticking,but if it keeps up like this for much longer,id have my doubts about the games at the weekend.that would be a good start,first round cancelled.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on March 30, 2010, 01:36:12 PM
Quote from: Dougal on March 30, 2010, 01:34:58 PM
good bit of snow so far,it's not sticking,but if it keeps up like this for much longer,id have my doubts about the games at the weekend.that would be a good start,first round cancelled.

Yep start as you mean to go on!!
If Cavan win tomorrow night, any club with under 21 players can postponed their game anyway!!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on March 30, 2010, 01:53:10 PM
Quote from: Celt_Man on March 30, 2010, 01:36:12 PM
Quote from: Dougal on March 30, 2010, 01:34:58 PM
good bit of snow so far,it's not sticking,but if it keeps up like this for much longer,id have my doubts about the games at the weekend.that would be a good start,first round cancelled.

Yep start as you mean to go on!!
If Cavan win tomorrow night, any club with under 21 players can postponed their game anyway!!
Seriously? Cos I think that the Gaels and Killeshandra both had 3 last week and nobody else had more than 1 so that would mean 10 clubs having this option on the starting line-up alone.
Quote from: Dougal on March 30, 2010, 01:34:58 PM
good bit of snow so far,it's not sticking,but if it keeps up like this for much longer,id have my doubts about the games at the weekend.that would be a good start,first round cancelled.
Where are you based Dougal? It's certainly sticking in and around the town area.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dougal on March 30, 2010, 02:34:37 PM
just outside killeshandra,i suppose it is fairly sticking to the grass.

ye both had 3,ballinagh had 2,and i think the rest were from different clubs.

hope we can have the game postponed,because missing those 3 with limited numbers as it is would be a serious blow.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cornafean on March 30, 2010, 02:40:29 PM
Quote from: Western Blue on March 30, 2010, 10:36:41 AM
I know he is retired but I was told yesterday that he was now back living in Mayo and if it were true it just seems a lot of commuting to carry out his duties.

I think you were told a porky pie  ;)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: beer baron on March 30, 2010, 04:11:14 PM
its like the north pole round my neck of the woods
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on March 30, 2010, 04:20:28 PM
Quote from: beer baron on March 30, 2010, 04:11:14 PM
its like the north pole round my neck of the woods

It's a good job we're hardy fookers then so!!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on March 30, 2010, 05:59:02 PM
Seriously bad in Cavan, Balieboro and Virginia at this stage lads. Not sure about Enniskillen but it'd have to be a doubt.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: RacingPost09 on March 30, 2010, 06:14:43 PM
Word is there is a pitch inspection at 11 in the morning.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on March 30, 2010, 06:37:45 PM
Just home from Dublin.

Not a sign of snow on the roads until I got between Kingscourt and Bailieborough..I'm telling ya's it's like a different part of the world here.

Snow is a few inches thick in my garden..If weather is anything like this in Enniskillen then a game of football is defo a no no..

Is nearly April, global warming my arse..Clearly we're not doing enough to help global warming or it's just effecting everywhere else in the world bar Cavan  ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on March 30, 2010, 07:02:13 PM
And Enniskillen or we wouldn't be having this debate.

Remember to put a cover of some sort over the windscreen and back window if you are leavig the car outside.  Or maybe it is just the right excuse.................
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on March 30, 2010, 09:51:47 PM

Both Ulster U21 Football semi-finals are on Wednesday
Donegal's Mark McHugh and Armagh's Mark McConville
Mark McHugh helped Donegal beat Armagh last week

Both Cadbury's Ulster Under-21 football semi-finals will take place on Wednesday night (2000 BST).

Donegal face Derry at Omagh while Monaghan take on Cavan in another derby clash at Brewster Park.

Cavan surprised last year's beaten All-Ireland finalists Down 3-14 to 1-8 in the first round a week ago, with Monaghan beating Antrim 2-12 to 2-6.

Donegal edged out Armagh 1-9 to 0-9 in the first round while Derry defeated Fermanagh 5-9 to 2-12.

Michael Murphy pulled the strings for Donegal against Armagh and his performance could go a long way to deciding who triumphs at Healy Park.

Derry were installed as favourites are their preliminary round win over Tyrone but Fermanagh then ran the Oak Leafers close at Celtic Park last week.

This was posted at 4:10 this afternoon. Do you think it considered the weather at all?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: FermGael on March 30, 2010, 10:22:48 PM
Not good in enniskillen men.
Unless there is a serious thaw i would say that the match is off
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on March 30, 2010, 11:48:42 PM
Just spent a half an hour in the snow digging a track in the garden to get out. That snow keeps coming the way it is, I know I won't be going to the game tomorrow!! ;D ;D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: jimjim on March 31, 2010, 10:37:29 AM
Pitch inspection in Brewster at 11 this morning. Enniskillen not as bad as Cavan with snow but still doubtful.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Give it long on March 31, 2010, 10:50:53 AM
Game off.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on March 31, 2010, 12:58:20 PM
Refixed for 2pm Saturday
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Long Ball on March 31, 2010, 02:28:57 PM
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A Chara

I have pleasure in inviting your Club to participate in our Invitational seven-a-side senior football competition which will be held on Saturday 1st May 2010 in Castlewellan Co. Down. Our Club has been running a very successful men's annual seven-a-side competition for the past 30 years second only in stature to the Dublin Kilmacud Sevens with winners of the Castlewellan sevens receiving invitations each year to enter the prestigious Kilmacud Seven held on the eve of the All-Ireland final. Indeed many of the Castlewellan Sevens winners have gone on to win the Kilmacud Sevens in the same year.

Traditionally the Castlewellan Sevens have beed held on the eve of the All-Ireland hurling final but due to increasing club commitments at this time of years we have decided to relaunch our sevens competition in 2010 for the earlier date of Saturday May 1st. Also for the first time ever we will be hosting our Ladies annual seven-a-side competition on the same day. The winning team in each competitions this year will receive £1000.00 and runners-up £250.


This is an official GAA tournament and normal GAA rules apply, each participating club must obtain permission in writing from its respective County Committee. It is also a requirement that clubs are covered under the Players' Injury Scheme currently approved by Ard Chomhairle.

The Sevens are of course more than a highly competitive one-day competition. It is always a great social occasion and we can guarantee you a warm Co Down welcome to Castlewellan and to our Clubrooms where we will provide top quality meals for all players and officials and host a grand evenings entertainment. Many Clubs opt to stay over in some of the Town's fine guesthouses and local hotels a list of which is also attached.

I look forward to welcoming you to our Club on Saturday 1st May. A competition of this level with top quality prizes and meals for all competitors and officials makes it necessary for us to set a fee to off-set the expenses involved, the entry fee this year is £160stg per team or €180, please make cheques payable to Castlewellan G.A.C. Entry forms may be posted to secretary.castlewellan.down@gaa.ie


For further details of the competition including past winners etc please visit our website at  http://castlewellangac.webs.com/castlewellan7s.htm

Mise le mor-mheas

Rónán O'Cionga

Ronan O Cionga
Runai
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: handballer09 on March 31, 2010, 03:54:14 PM
http://www.anglocelt.ie/sport/localgaa/articles/2010/03/31/3996082-under-21-match-postponed/

ACFL fixtures also in doubt.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on March 31, 2010, 03:57:16 PM
Surely they are no doubt because of the weather... Sure when all that snow melts, the pitches will have some water lying on them??
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dougal on March 31, 2010, 04:38:32 PM
Quote from: Celt_Man on March 31, 2010, 03:57:16 PM
Surely they are no doubt because of the weather... Sure when all that snow melts, the pitches will have some water lying on them??

well all the snow round my way has melted,and if it keeps fairly dry till the weekend theres no reason why pitches wouldnt be playable.i hear the snow was very bad around the baileboro area,so maybe some pitches might have alot of snow on them.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dougal on March 31, 2010, 10:38:20 PM
just took a glance at the celt there,it says we have a full squad to choose from,as minagh and maloney-derham are back from injury,so is keating not involed with the u21s this year,or whats the story with him?

celt man,was it you that mentioned clubs being able to postpone league games if we win?where did you hear that?because i heard from a club secretary,that it was talked about,but it was decided to not go ahead with it.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: beer baron on April 01, 2010, 12:28:50 PM
Quote from: Dougal on March 31, 2010, 10:38:20 PM
just took a glance at the celt there,it says we have a full squad to choose from,as minagh and maloney-derham are back from injury,so is keating not involed with the u21s this year,or whats the story with him?

celt man,was it you that mentioned clubs being able to postpone league games if we win?where did you hear that?because i heard from a club secretary,that it was talked about,but it was decided to not go ahead with it.

League games on saturday are postponed and any team playing on sunday with a player involved in u-21s can get their game postponed but all junior b games have to be played.Think thats what it is,as ever county board give us a bit of a code to try crack.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on April 01, 2010, 01:13:03 PM
The 2 Cadbury's Ulster U21 Football Championship semi finals will now be a double header at Brewster Park Enniskillen on Saturday. Derry v Donegal at 12.15pm and Cavan v Monaghan at 2.00pm.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on April 01, 2010, 01:19:13 PM
Just heard some bad news regarding the u21's. >:( David Givney apparently went over on his shoulder last night in training and dislocated it and is out of the game on Saturday..He was meant to have bumped into Barry Reilly, who is also now a huge doubt after the hefty clash..
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on April 01, 2010, 02:25:13 PM
Crap.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Give it long on April 01, 2010, 02:32:07 PM
Can we safely assume that was an effort at an April fool in poor taste?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on April 01, 2010, 06:16:24 PM
Just read this and thought it was mad that it would happen - then I remembered what day it is...  ;D ;D


Star joins The Stars

01 April 2010

The Juniors preparations for this week's Division Three opener have received a huge shot in the arm this week with the news that ex-Irish soccer star will line out for them this season.

Gary Breen, who is a recent new resident in the millionaire estate, St. James' Court (adjacent to Cabra Castle for all us non-millionaires!!) last night had his registration forms ratified by Croke Park which will allow him line out for the club this year.

Gary has moved to the area as his wife hails from Co. Louth and expressed an interest in trying his hand at GAA, given his long-time interest in the game. We would like to thank the connections who introduced Gary to the club and wish him, and the rest of the Juniors, well for the coming season, starting with this weekend's match against Shannon Gaels
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on April 01, 2010, 06:33:55 PM
Celt Man what sort of shape will the pitch be in for Sunday?
As usual I presume you's are letting the grass grow above knee level :D :D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on April 01, 2010, 06:44:32 PM
Quote from: boojangles on April 01, 2010, 06:33:55 PM
Celt Man what sort of shape will the pitch be in for Sunday?
As usual I presume you's are letting the grass grow above knee level :D :D

Ahh trying to predict what magical surface will await ye in Hugh O'Reilly Park...

One thing I can tell you for certain is that if it rains the grass will be wet after that...  ;D

Honestly I haven't a clue, haven't been on it in a couple of days but I reckon the snow might have pushed the grass down to mid shin level!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: beer baron on April 01, 2010, 08:57:40 PM
Went passed the pitch earlier-bring a canoe!!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on April 01, 2010, 09:02:17 PM
Quote from: beer baron on April 01, 2010, 08:57:40 PM
Went passed the pitch earlier-bring a canoe!!
Ha! Just like last year's game!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on April 02, 2010, 01:32:18 PM
Taking it off football for a minute lads.

GET UP,STAND UP.

To whom it may concern,
 
The decision last Tuesday 30th March to place Quinn Insurances Ltd (QIL) in provisional administration has far reaching implications for business and family life throughout this region, and indeed the whole country.  QIL is a very profitable indigenous business employing 2,700 people in its various offices in the island of Ireland and the UK.  The Quinn Group employs in excess of 5,500 people nationally, and has paid over a billion euro in taxes to the Irish exchequer since its foundation.
 
This administration process seriously puts at risk all of these jobs and the knock on effect on the local economy would be catastrophic.  We in Cavan Chamber of Commerce are organising a rally to take place on Wednesday 7th April 1, 2010 at 5.30pm in the Market Square, Main Street, Cavan in order to demonstrate our solidarity and support for Quinn Insurance, its employees and management and the wider Quinn Group.   
 
We strongly appeal to you, your colleagues, your families, friends and the public at large to acknowledge the value of the Quinn Group Businesses to the development of this region by attending this rally.  We are inviting all our public representatives to address this rally and listen to your voice.
 
Please pass this email onto everybody in your address book.
 
Yours sincerely,
 
Eamon McDwyer
President Cavan Chamber of Commerce

The powers that be have taken our trains,they build a Motorway all the way to the Cavan border outside Carnaross which is an insult to all Cavan people and now they are trying to damage the biggest employer in the region.
Its time we stopped letting this Government walk all over this county and region.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on April 02, 2010, 02:00:10 PM
Quote from: boojangles on April 02, 2010, 01:32:18 PM
Taking it off football for a minute lads.

GET UP,STAND UP.

To whom it may concern,
 
The decision last Tuesday 30th March to place Quinn Insurances Ltd (QIL) in provisional administration has far reaching implications for business and family life throughout this region, and indeed the whole country.  QIL is a very profitable indigenous business employing 2,700 people in its various offices in the island of Ireland and the UK.  The Quinn Group employs in excess of 5,500 people nationally, and has paid over a billion euro in taxes to the Irish exchequer since its foundation.
 
This administration process seriously puts at risk all of these jobs and the knock on effect on the local economy would be catastrophic.  We in Cavan Chamber of Commerce are organising a rally to take place on Wednesday 7th April 1, 2010 at 5.30pm in the Market Square, Main Street, Cavan in order to demonstrate our solidarity and support for Quinn Insurance, its employees and management and the wider Quinn Group.   
 
We strongly appeal to you, your colleagues, your families, friends and the public at large to acknowledge the value of the Quinn Group Businesses to the development of this region by attending this rally.  We are inviting all our public representatives to address this rally and listen to your voice.
 
Please pass this email onto everybody in your address book.
 
Yours sincerely,
 
Eamon McDwyer
President Cavan Chamber of Commerce

The powers that be have taken our trains,they build a Motorway all the way to the Cavan border outside Carnaross which is an insult to all Cavan people and now they are trying to damage the biggest employer in the region.
Its time we stopped letting this Government walk all over this county and region.
............probably not the right thread is right Boojangles but are we to attend this demonstration regardless of what has been going on in the Quinn Group. I'm not saying there is or there isn't need for an administrator but that statment from Eamon McDwyer seems to negate any need for facts as the company employs local people. If the former administrator had gone into Anglo 10 years ago for example and there was uproar about jobs being at risk would it have been the right thing to protest about?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on April 02, 2010, 02:15:38 PM
Quote from: Lawrence of Knockbride on April 02, 2010, 02:00:10 PM
Quote from: boojangles on April 02, 2010, 01:32:18 PM
Taking it off football for a minute lads.

GET UP,STAND UP.

To whom it may concern,
 
The decision last Tuesday 30th March to place Quinn Insurances Ltd (QIL) in provisional administration has far reaching implications for business and family life throughout this region, and indeed the whole country.  QIL is a very profitable indigenous business employing 2,700 people in its various offices in the island of Ireland and the UK.  The Quinn Group employs in excess of 5,500 people nationally, and has paid over a billion euro in taxes to the Irish exchequer since its foundation.
 
This administration process seriously puts at risk all of these jobs and the knock on effect on the local economy would be catastrophic.  We in Cavan Chamber of Commerce are organising a rally to take place on Wednesday 7th April 1, 2010 at 5.30pm in the Market Square, Main Street, Cavan in order to demonstrate our solidarity and support for Quinn Insurance, its employees and management and the wider Quinn Group.   
 
We strongly appeal to you, your colleagues, your families, friends and the public at large to acknowledge the value of the Quinn Group Businesses to the development of this region by attending this rally.  We are inviting all our public representatives to address this rally and listen to your voice.
 
Please pass this email onto everybody in your address book.
 
Yours sincerely,
 
Eamon McDwyer
President Cavan Chamber of Commerce

The powers that be have taken our trains,they build a Motorway all the way to the Cavan border outside Carnaross which is an insult to all Cavan people and now they are trying to damage the biggest employer in the region.
Its time we stopped letting this Government walk all over this county and region.
............probably not the right thread is right Boojangles but are we to attend this demonstration regardless of what has been going on in the Quinn Group. I'm not saying there is or there isn't need for an administrator but that statment from Eamon McDwyer seems to negate any need for facts as the company employs local people. If the former administrator had gone into Anglo 10 years ago for example and there was uproar about jobs being at risk would it have been the right thing to protest about?
If ya wanna debate,we shud move to the Quinn thread. But briefly-
What are the facts Lawrence?
Why has QDI been put into administration?
Why is this being dragged back to Anglo-Irish? Has Quinn not committed to paying back everything he owes to Anglo-irish? Why this witch-hunt after Quinn but not after the rest who were involved?? He's got money might be the short answer.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on April 02, 2010, 02:22:38 PM
I just popped over to the main thread Boojangles and I tried to get back here but you beat me to it. Last word on the Cavan GAA thread in response to your questions:
I don't know the facts-do you? Does anybody with an unbiased opinion know them who can tell the public?
I don't know why QDI has been put into administration (as above)
I can't comment on the last question but let's just see how many other witchunts there might be in the coming months.
My point was that the chamber didn't make reference to any of the above. It just said protest against what might be catastophic. A bit narrow-minded I'd have thought.
To the main thread.......................
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on April 02, 2010, 03:10:01 PM
Anyway back to the football ;D

And apologies that was a lame April Fool's joke by myself.. In my defence, I was pretty bored  >:(
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on April 02, 2010, 03:20:23 PM
I thought it was pretty good-had me anyway. Was a little worried you didn't clarify it earlier though.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on April 02, 2010, 03:22:20 PM
Quote from: Lawrence of Knockbride on April 02, 2010, 03:20:23 PM
I thought it was pretty good-had me anyway. Was a little worried you didn't clarify it earlier though.

Yeah I thought with the lack of reaction to it, a few people had heart-attacks as soon as they read it ;D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on April 02, 2010, 04:48:41 PM
From reading the Quinn Direct thread on general discussion, i pity the poor Cootehill fecker who has to mark an enraged Boojangles on Sunday!!!!!  :o
The poor lad will be black and blue come Monday morning  :D  :D

PIU
i fell for it,aswell!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on April 02, 2010, 05:16:51 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on April 02, 2010, 04:48:41 PM
From reading the Quinn Direct thread on general discussion, i pity the poor Cootehill fecker who has to mark an enraged Boojangles on Sunday!!!!!  :o
The poor lad will be black and blue come Monday morning  :D  :D

PIU
i fell for it,aswell!

Good point BHMan, lads will have to be instructed to get their retaliation in first!!!  :D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on April 02, 2010, 05:49:38 PM
Put it up

fell for it hook line but no sinker as I went into a corner and told nobody but hoping it wasn't true.

it unfortunately had a ring of truth about it.

Though I'm glad you told us before we went to the game tutting about how hard it would be to other supporter.

B**tard.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on April 02, 2010, 06:04:14 PM
Quote from: Denn Forever on April 02, 2010, 05:49:38 PM
Put it up

fell for it hook line but no sinker as I went into a corner and told nobody but hoping it wasn't true.

it unfortunately had a ring of truth about it.

Though I'm glad you told us before we went to the game tutting about how hard it would be to other supporter.

B**tard.

Haha, I shoulda said nothing  ;D

Now now DF, i made you look like a fool on here, I wouldn't embarrass you in front of your friends  :D :D

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dougal on April 02, 2010, 07:31:55 PM
put-it-up,you had me with givney,but then i realised what was going on,because i had thought of doing the same,only with two different players.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on April 02, 2010, 10:34:07 PM
You didn't fool me put it up cos I didn't get a chance to read your post, I went down to Kingscourt to see Gary Breen training with the stars instead!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on April 03, 2010, 12:47:01 AM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on April 02, 2010, 10:34:07 PM
You didn't fool me put it up cos I didn't get a chance to read your post, I went down to Kingscourt to see Gary Breen training with the stars instead!

You know what they say, we all dream of a team of Gary Breen's..and number 1 is Gary Breen etc etc!

Anyway, this poster needs his beauty sleep. Best of luck tomorrow lads.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on April 03, 2010, 03:45:45 PM
In between stories of rabbits in Croke Park, listening to Northern Sound that is some gutsy win for the Cavan men.  Down to 14 men then Monaghan get a goal to go 2 points in front and the boys dig out a win.  Well done lads!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on April 03, 2010, 03:50:30 PM
Delighted, led 1-5 to 2, Mcenroe got gate in first half I understand. 1-9 each with 5 to go and won by 1. Well done to all concerned, sticking it up the Mushroom pickers is always a nice feeling just in case they ever forget the old order of things.
Wednesday night against Donegal. Plan a b and c to deal with Big Murphy?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Babe Ruth 47 on April 03, 2010, 05:27:39 PM
Well lads, just back in, absolutely delighted. We showed tremendous bottle, the sending off and Monaghan goal came within a minute of each other. (T'was about 10 minutes from the end as far as I recall, left the phone in the car in the panic to get to the game, 3 mile tailbacks on the Belfast road).

What pleased me the most was the performance in the middle of the field. Givney was immense, absolutely brilliant performance. He won a serious amount of clean balll, and he broke the ball with purpose instead of just for the sake of doing it. His point at the end turned out to be the winning score, great score receiving the ball about 50 meters out, jinking his man and sending it over from about 40 yards. What really summed up his performance was a couple of minutes later, when a Cavan attack broke down, Givney found himself a good 15 yards behind his man, made a lung bursting run the length of the field eventually winning the ball back in the full back line.

Great presence about Cavan in the middle sector, some good physical men. Obviously there are negatives too, after going 1-5 to 0 up we didn't score again until 8 minutes into the second half. We needed to manufacture a simple score when Monaghan posed a comeback, but failed to do so, wasting numerous chances. We can't afford to let leads slip like that. 

Little worried about fb, Dunne got caught out with a few high balls kicked in, that surely won't go unnoticed by Donegal.

Again delighted, great Cavan support too, really looking forward to the final.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on April 03, 2010, 05:51:11 PM
What about the perforance of te 16th man?  I reckon 85% of te crowd were from Cavan.

McEnroe got 2nd yellow card about 15 minutes in to the 2nh half and was dissapointed and trudged off slowly.  I reckon the goal came when the Cavanv full back came out with the ball and thought that McEnroe was still on the pitch and tried to pass it to him.

Come on Cavan.  Any word when/where the final will be?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on April 03, 2010, 06:00:02 PM
Final is on Wednesday... maybe in Enniskillen again?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on April 03, 2010, 06:04:25 PM
Brilliant stuff and Well Done to all involved. 1st Ulster Final in 5 years at any level so that alone is a positive. After a great start we faded very badly and only for men like Givney we probably would have been beaten but fair play to the team for digging in after the sending off. It didnt look good as Monaghan got the goal immediately afterwards.
It has to be said though that there were some lads left on the field that should have been off by HT but thankfully we got away with it. Fair play to the management for bringing Niall Smith back on as he has the legs to run at teams when Monaghan had dropped the extra man back and direct ball wasn't working.

It looks like most club games will be off tomorrow as a result. Just waiting on word.Seems a bit mad TBH but I suppose its not every day we make an Ulster Final.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on April 03, 2010, 06:07:49 PM
Quote from: boojangles on April 03, 2010, 06:04:25 PM
Brilliant stuff and Well Done to all involved. 1st Ulster Final in 5 years at any level so that alone is a positive. After a great start we faded very badly and only for men like Givney we probably would have been beaten but fair play to the team for digging in after the sending off. It didnt look good as Monaghan got the goal immediately afterwards.
It has to be said though that there were some lads left on the field that should have been off by HT but thankfully we got away with it. Fair play to the management for bringing Niall Smith back on as he has the legs to run at teams when Monaghan had dropped the extra man back and direct ball wasn't working.

It looks like most club games will be off tomorrow as a result. Just waiting on word.Seems a bit mad TBH but I suppose its not every day we make an Ulster Final.

There is some debate about that one
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on April 03, 2010, 06:10:05 PM
Absolutely delighted. Huge amount of fight at the end to sneak a win. Givney and McKiernan in midfield really dug deep in the last 10 minutes. Barry Reilly was poor in 1st half but was outstanding in the 2nd. When it mattered others like Dunne at FB and Daragh Tighe stood up and were counted. f**king lovely to beat Monaghan. Donegal look like a giant team but I think we can have the legs on them, dealing with Murphy will be the key but if we can win midfield and deprive Murphy of ball then we have a chance.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on April 03, 2010, 06:11:22 PM
Quote from: Celt_Man on April 03, 2010, 06:07:49 PM
Quote from: boojangles on April 03, 2010, 06:04:25 PM
Brilliant stuff and Well Done to all involved. 1st Ulster Final in 5 years at any level so that alone is a positive. After a great start we faded very badly and only for men like Givney we probably would have been beaten but fair play to the team for digging in after the sending off. It didnt look good as Monaghan got the goal immediately afterwards.
It has to be said though that there were some lads left on the field that should have been off by HT but thankfully we got away with it. Fair play to the management for bringing Niall Smith back on as he has the legs to run at teams when Monaghan had dropped the extra man back and direct ball wasn't working.

It looks like most club games will be off tomorrow as a result. Just waiting on word.Seems a bit mad TBH but I suppose its not every day we make an Ulster Final.

There is some debate about that one

I was told that any team with an U21 player of their team can have their game called off if they want.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on April 03, 2010, 06:16:06 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on April 03, 2010, 06:11:22 PM
Quote from: Celt_Man on April 03, 2010, 06:07:49 PM
Quote from: boojangles on April 03, 2010, 06:04:25 PM
Brilliant stuff and Well Done to all involved. 1st Ulster Final in 5 years at any level so that alone is a positive. After a great start we faded very badly and only for men like Givney we probably would have been beaten but fair play to the team for digging in after the sending off. It didnt look good as Monaghan got the goal immediately afterwards.
It has to be said though that there were some lads left on the field that should have been off by HT but thankfully we got away with it. Fair play to the management for bringing Niall Smith back on as he has the legs to run at teams when Monaghan had dropped the extra man back and direct ball wasn't working.

It looks like most club games will be off tomorrow as a result. Just waiting on word.Seems a bit mad TBH but I suppose its not every day we make an Ulster Final.

There is some debate about that one

I was told that any team with an U21 player of their team can have their game called off if they want.

Well do yas want it off Celt Man?? I'd like to know before the morning!!!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on April 03, 2010, 06:21:12 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on April 03, 2010, 06:11:22 PM
Quote from: Celt_Man on April 03, 2010, 06:07:49 PM
Quote from: boojangles on April 03, 2010, 06:04:25 PM
Brilliant stuff and Well Done to all involved. 1st Ulster Final in 5 years at any level so that alone is a positive. After a great start we faded very badly and only for men like Givney we probably would have been beaten but fair play to the team for digging in after the sending off. It didnt look good as Monaghan got the goal immediately afterwards.
It has to be said though that there were some lads left on the field that should have been off by HT but thankfully we got away with it. Fair play to the management for bringing Niall Smith back on as he has the legs to run at teams when Monaghan had dropped the extra man back and direct ball wasn't working.

It looks like most club games will be off tomorrow as a result. Just waiting on word.Seems a bit mad TBH but I suppose its not every day we make an Ulster Final.

There is some debate about that one

I was told that any team with an U21 player of their team can have their game called off if they want.

That may depend on whether they are on the team, panel or squad... the plot thickens!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: handballer09 on April 03, 2010, 07:20:46 PM
Super win for Cavan!
http://www.anglocelt.ie/sport/matchreports/articles/2010/04/03/3996100-under-21s-through-to-final/
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on April 03, 2010, 09:29:20 PM
Quote from: Celt_Man on April 03, 2010, 06:21:12 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on April 03, 2010, 06:11:22 PM
Quote from: Celt_Man on April 03, 2010, 06:07:49 PM
Quote from: boojangles on April 03, 2010, 06:04:25 PM
Brilliant stuff and Well Done to all involved. 1st Ulster Final in 5 years at any level so that alone is a positive. After a great start we faded very badly and only for men like Givney we probably would have been beaten but fair play to the team for digging in after the sending off. It didnt look good as Monaghan got the goal immediately afterwards.
It has to be said though that there were some lads left on the field that should have been off by HT but thankfully we got away with it. Fair play to the management for bringing Niall Smith back on as he has the legs to run at teams when Monaghan had dropped the extra man back and direct ball wasn't working.

It looks like most club games will be off tomorrow as a result. Just waiting on word.Seems a bit mad TBH but I suppose its not every day we make an Ulster Final.

There is some debate about that one

I was told that any team with an U21 player of their team can have their game called off if they want.

That may depend on whether they are on the team, panel or squad... the plot thickens!
Senior game off. Junior goes ahead.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on April 04, 2010, 10:17:51 PM
Any league games go ahead today>?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4sam on April 05, 2010, 01:16:11 PM
I know only 1 game went ahead in Division 1 Castlerahan 0-10 Gowna 0-6
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Western Blue on April 05, 2010, 03:30:42 PM
Congrats.to all involved with the Cavan U.21 team . A lot of good preparation and a wee bit of good fortune on Wednesday night will go along way in getting us past what appears to be a strong Donegal team. Hopefully our Capt. Rory Dunne will play his part in keep Michael Murphy quite on the night.
Who are Terry Hyland's ( Manager) co. selectors . By any chance is Martin McHugh working with the team in the background?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on April 05, 2010, 04:58:11 PM
Anthony Forde and Ronan Carolan are involved in some capacity. Is it definitely confirmed for Enniskillen at 8 o'clock?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Western Blue on April 05, 2010, 05:09:41 PM
What is the position regarding Eugene Keating? I was of the impression that he was dropped from that panel in Feb and then there was some mention later of him been injured. The couple of times last year I saw him in action for the Senior team I thought he played OK/fair. Any news on him?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanforever on April 05, 2010, 05:48:03 PM
yeah i believe he was injured! thought he was back for the monaghhan game but must not have been eady
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on April 05, 2010, 06:51:33 PM
Final in Brewster Park at 8.00 Referee Gavin Corrigan according to the Ulster GAA fixtures list on their website

http://ulster.gaa.ie/fixtures/

It'll be a tough nut to crack with Murphy (geez hes big) at FF.  If the Cavan defense can be disciplined we have a hope. 

The Donegal team were not afraid to hold the ball even crossing the field (back and forth) with short passes until an opening presented itself. The No 7 was good and mobile  and will have to be watched but hopefully he'll be too busy with the speed merchant wing forwards to do any damage.

Hope we have the same support as Saturday.  Come on Cavan.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dougal on April 06, 2010, 09:48:22 AM
donegal are a typical donegal team.quick,close range handpassing until theres space to carry the ball,not great to watch but effective when done right.where does keating play for club?and where would he play for the u21's,if he was to be fit for tomorrow or before the end of our campaign?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Western Blue on April 06, 2010, 10:44:37 AM
Keating plays for Mullagh/Cross....position Midfield or Centre Half Back
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dougal on April 06, 2010, 11:01:19 AM
i know who he plays for just havent seen much of them over the years,thanks anyway,was never sure where cuchullains was.i thought he might be CHB alright,would be a good addition there for the u21's,james mac is a good player,but i feel he lacks a bit of speed which keating has.

i think it's giving for a good day tomorrow,but after the rain last night i doubt the pitch will be too dry.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: handballer09 on April 07, 2010, 12:55:10 PM
See www.anglocelt.ie for previews, updates on the Cavan team when it is announced and video coverage after the match.
Donegal team to be announced this evening, corner-forward Peter McGee is definitely out after receiving a straight red against Derry.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on April 07, 2010, 03:30:11 PM
Best of luck to the lads. Anyone know if Northern Sound are covering it?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on April 07, 2010, 03:41:31 PM
All the best to the lads tonight. Lord knows it's badly needed.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on April 07, 2010, 03:51:50 PM
Hyland cautiously confident

07 April 2010

Cavan bid for their third ever Ulster Under 21FC crown tonight when they make the short trip to Enniskillen to take on Donegal at Brewster Park (throw-in 8.00pm).

Despite the anticipation and excitement in the Breffni County, team manager Terry Hyland has been quick to play down the hype after his side's last-gasp win over Monaghan on Saturday.

"Being starved of success, people get caught up in it a little bit and that maybe leads to a bit of unnecessary hype sometimes," said the Lacken man.

The Cavan boss also knows that with players like Michael Murphy and Leo McLoone in their ranks Donegal will provide stern opposition, but is confident that the likes of David Givney and Declan McKiernan can lead them to provincial success.

"I didn't get watching them but anybody who looked at them said they're a very strong, physical team, who play a typical Donegal style of football, retaining the ball," he said.

"Someone said to me at times they had 15 behind the ball! The only way you can break that down is make sure your forwards get tackling."
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on April 07, 2010, 03:56:54 PM
This whole wednesday night set up really does not suit anyone who is based outside the county.
Hopefully N2 Ashbourne/Derry road is fairly clear this evening.
If not il hardly make it down in time.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on April 07, 2010, 03:59:48 PM
Well stay clear of the M4 as it's closed due a big pile-up. I couldn't sleep last night with the excitement. We really are starved of success. :)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on April 07, 2010, 04:01:21 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on April 07, 2010, 03:56:54 PM
This whole wednesday night set up really does not suit anyone who is based outside the county.
Hopefully N2 Ashbourne/Derry road is fairly clear this evening.
If not il hardly make it down in time.

Aye the timing of it is a pain in the hole alright.   Enniskillen isn't the best of towns to be trying to get into the pitch in a hurry either
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on April 07, 2010, 04:06:18 PM
best way is to leave the car on main Belfast road and walk.
Ive always went by Newtownbutler/Lisnaskea/Maguiresbridge.
Wouldnt know where i was going,coming in via  N4/Belturbet.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on April 07, 2010, 04:09:43 PM
Best of Luck to all involved. Lets hope Cavan can bring another big crowd.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cornafean on April 07, 2010, 04:09:58 PM
Quote from: Celt_Man on April 07, 2010, 03:30:11 PM
Best of luck to the lads. Anyone know if Northern Sound are covering it?

According to the ads this morning, they are providing full live commentary with Michael Tynan, Sean McMahon and Tommy Carr.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on April 07, 2010, 04:10:36 PM
Game is being covered on Northern Sound.
Is it true that Barry Reilly is only 18?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on April 07, 2010, 04:14:17 PM
Quote from: Lawrence of Knockbride on April 07, 2010, 04:10:36 PM
Game is being covered on Northern Sound.
Is it true that Barry Reilly is only 18?

Quite possible he would be Under 19 this year
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on April 07, 2010, 04:16:31 PM
Quote from: cornafean on April 07, 2010, 04:09:58 PM
Quote from: Celt_Man on April 07, 2010, 03:30:11 PM
Best of luck to the lads. Anyone know if Northern Sound are covering it?

According to the ads this morning, they are providing full live commentary with Michael Tynan, Sean McMahon and Tommy Carr.

Mixed emotions about that...

Glad I can listen to the game except you only listen to commentary on about half the game with Tynan, the other half is filled with the most random and useless sipnets of info which usually leads to shouting at the radio - which by the way will probably be frowned upon in the library where I'll be....
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on April 07, 2010, 04:37:47 PM
Quote from: Celt_Man on April 07, 2010, 04:16:31 PM
Quote from: cornafean on April 07, 2010, 04:09:58 PM
Quote from: Celt_Man on April 07, 2010, 03:30:11 PM
Best of luck to the lads. Anyone know if Northern Sound are covering it?

According to the ads this morning, they are providing full live commentary with Michael Tynan, Sean McMahon and Tommy Carr.

Mixed emotions about that...

Glad I can listen to the game except you only listen to commentary on about half the game with Tynan, the other half is filled with the most random and useless sipnets of info which usually leads to shouting at the radio - which by the way will probably be frowned upon in the library where I'll be....

The year was 1956 and the player in question was a 2nd cousin of a former County Councillor from outside the Hill of Tara, which used to be the seat of the High Kings of Ireland and also a thriving goat market, which unfortunately is a thing of the past, which reminds me of a fella I spoke to at a recent funeral who was a sub on the last Virginia Blues team to play in the Cavan Senior Championship and in the mean time its back to the action and I can inform you that Cavan have just scored 3 goals in the last minute and had 4 men sent off................. But back to the goat market ::)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on April 07, 2010, 04:44:51 PM
Quote from: boojangles on April 07, 2010, 04:37:47 PM
Quote from: Celt_Man on April 07, 2010, 04:16:31 PM
Quote from: cornafean on April 07, 2010, 04:09:58 PM
Quote from: Celt_Man on April 07, 2010, 03:30:11 PM
Best of luck to the lads. Anyone know if Northern Sound are covering it?

According to the ads this morning, they are providing full live commentary with Michael Tynan, Sean McMahon and Tommy Carr.

Mixed emotions about that...

Glad I can listen to the game except you only listen to commentary on about half the game with Tynan, the other half is filled with the most random and useless sipnets of info which usually leads to shouting at the radio - which by the way will probably be frowned upon in the library where I'll be....

The year was 1956 and the player in question was a 2nd cousin of a former County Councillor from outside the Hill of Tara, which used to be the seat of the High Kings of Ireland and also a thriving goat market, which unfortunately is a thing of the past, which reminds me of a fella I spoke to at a recent funeral who was a sub on the last Virginia Blues team to play in the Cavan Senior Championship and in the mean time its back to the action and I can inform you that Cavan have just scored 3 goals in the last minute and had 4 men sent off................. But back to the goat market ::)

Bang on the money Boojangles... meanwhile you are after breaking as much furniture and fittings as you could lay your hands on in frustration during his wee tangent....
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on April 07, 2010, 04:55:57 PM
All the best to the lads. I am about to leave now for a long journey east but it will be worth it if we can lift the cup.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: trim blue on April 07, 2010, 05:01:35 PM
Best of luck to the players and management tonight, hope they can do it but at least hope they can perform at their best and maybe one will lead to the other.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on April 07, 2010, 05:22:45 PM
Huge  night for Cavan football, Best of luck to all involved. Somobody pointed out that the Monaghan game was probably the first in god knows how many years when Cavan edged a close one against the odds at undeage level, well since our Under 21's took Meath in the AISF in 96. Hopefully it shows a level of belief among these lads that will get us across the line tonight.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on April 07, 2010, 05:28:26 PM
Quote from: anglocelt39 on April 07, 2010, 05:22:45 PM
Huge  night for Cavan football, Best of luck to all involved. Somobody pointed out that the Monaghan game was probably the first in god knows how many years when Cavan edged a close one against the odds at undeage level, well since our Under 21's took Meath in the AISF in 96. Hopefully it shows a level of belief among these lads that will get us across the line tonight.

Well wouldn't go that far back...  They had a couple of gutsy wins in the '05 Under 21 championship, beating All-Ireland champions Armagh in the first round then a one point win over Monaghan in the semi final.   But point taken, they have been few and far between
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dougal on April 07, 2010, 06:54:23 PM
best of luck to the lads tonight,done us proud so far,but hope they can go all the way.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: offthebeatentrack on April 07, 2010, 09:30:54 PM
Donegal 2-8 to Cavan 0-7- 5,000-6,000 at it!! That's it over.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on April 07, 2010, 11:35:24 PM
Great to see so many out. 

Wouldn't say that Donegal were a much better team but the goals against killed us.  What happened for that 2nd goal.  It appeared to be caught well.  Was it lost coming out?

Well done to all involved and hold the heads up.  It was a great tonic while it lasted.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on April 07, 2010, 11:45:50 PM
Made a flying visit down for the match, very disappointing result obviously but on the other hand, a deserved win - just about - for Donegal.

Ten scores beating seven in perfect conditions tells you a fair bit about the game and tactics. Cavan tried to play all the football, Donegal generally had 13 men in their own half - sometimes all 15 - such was their commitment to the blanket defence. The attacking tactic was to isolate big Murphy on the edge of the square and although never looking comfortable or in control, Rory Dunne did well enough on him overall, scrambling it or breaking it away somehow the majority of the time. However, Murphy only had to get it right once and when he bagged his goal on the stroke of half time it turned a manageable 0-4 to 0-2 deficit into a daunting 1-4 to 0-2 one and our goose looked cooked to me at that stage. We were making little headway against the packed defence as it was, but one felt if we hurried up the ball in a little there was still some hope as we were clearly best at midfield (Givney was a beast, shame he overcarried at times) and had dominated possession for spells in the first period. Jitters and giving the ball away, unforced errors and delaying the ball in undid us though and Murphy's goal was just a total killer.

In the second half we launched it in much earlier and drew a few fouls and generally got the very large Cavan crowd behind the team. We closed to within two points at one stage and were coming strong when one of the most inexplicable refereeing decisions I've ever seen turned the match IMO. We were cleaning up scraps from the long ball in and starting to make inroads by carrying from deep at pace and a Cavan attack, right under the seated terrace where I was situated, was taking shape and looking promising. The Cavan forward had jinked by his man and had a clear sight of goal when the ref somehow saw a pickup in the build up that not even the most one-eyed of Donegal fans could have seen - because it didn't happen. From this awful decision Donegal went up the field, won a free and when the ball dropped under the posts the Cavan defender who collected it came down unsteadily, dropped it and the Donegal forward sent it to the net for a highly fortunate goal and effectively, the winning of the game.

That was it more or less, the wind went out of our sails then and Donegal played keepball. It's frustrating as we were the team trying to play most of the 'football' but Donegal's gameplan was certainly effective if not very pretty to look at. They swarmed in defence but gave away very few frees in a quite disciplined performance although their #7 and #8 sailed close to the wind a few times. Donegal were also physically much bigger and overall it was their deployment of numbers rather than any great individual skill that won them the game, with the hugely impressive Murphy (a quiet second half but the damage was done) their jewel in the crown and a few other pacy players enabling them to attack from deep in waves and release the numbers they generally have funnelled back.

The ref was a bit of a fusspot, throwing up two Cavan frees for not being taken from the right spot and ignoring Donegal's similar indiscretions although overall, he made bad decisions for both teams - sadly, the worst one he made against Cavan turned the match in my opinion. We'll never know what might have happened but for that decision but 'if me auntie had balls she'd be my uncle' springs to mind too - Donegal won and fair play to them now and best of luck later in the year.

Awful shame for Cavan, we desperately need some success at underage but at least in Givney it genuinely looks like we've found a midfielder and as always have a few quick, nacky forwards coming on as well.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on April 08, 2010, 12:12:29 AM
Was great while it lasted as right.I'd have taken an Ulster Final appearance in January so its not all doom and gloom, however that game was probably there for the taking but too many lads didnt play,especially in key forward positions. Tight field didnt suit us either and Donegal were much cuter in the 2nd half.
They kept possession while we just landed it on top of their sweepers instead of working it in. People can blame management but at the end of the day 20/21 year olds should be able to think on their feet and see what Donegal were doing and counteract it by running at them.

In terms of the step up to Senior level,at the moment I would probably say only Givney and maybe Rory Dunne look like they are ready. Barry Reilly will make it if we can hold on to him but Id give him another year or two.
Gearoid McKiernan maybe in time but he has some work to do.
Other lads like Daragh Tighe and Bud Fitzpatrick were outstanding over the 3 games but unfortunately may not be big enough. But I hope I'm wrong.
The jury is out on a few more but its up to themselves.

Overall this panel has restored a bit of pride in Cavan football at a time when it is badly wanted.The turn out of Cavan people tonight was very encouraging and shows how desperate for success we are, but also how as a county we still love our football.
The team showed heart and guts and every one of them can be proud of themselves and I really hope they can learn from the experience of the last few weeks.

An Cabhan Abu
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on April 08, 2010, 11:47:07 AM
Very disappointing result last night. As Boojangles said, some of our lads just did not play. The game was lost at the FB battle though and I am afraid Dunne is no Full back going on the last 2 U21 games. He let Murphy in behind him badly for the 1st goal and the 2nd goal he caught a ball on the cross bar and dropped it to a forward on the way down. He was also responsible for some very soft points, one in particular where he decided to fall on the ball in front of the stand after Tighe had done trojan work to win the ball out in front and another where he pulled out of a 50:50. You can say he started well on Murphy but he was directly at fault for 2-2. I know the lad done his best but he is no FB solution imo. Was also disappointed in Thomais Reilly, very disappointed in Niall McDermott (I would have taken him off after 20 minutes he was so poor in 1st half). Keeper was also poor. Others just did not show or were too light to deal with the packed defence Donegal had.

On the positive Givney was immense and single handedly won midfield on his own, even when Donegal brought out Murphy he couldn't compete with him. He has the ability to be one of the best in the country and I think that is a real possibility as the man gets better and better every game so he obviously works hard on improving himself. Givney was the best player on the pitch by a mile. Daragh Tighe was also magnificent in defense, as sticky a corner back as their is in this grade. He is a good lad too and I reckon he will make the senior team. Barry Reilly was our only threat in the half forward line and got some nice points. He has skill and a good head too, def one for the future and finally Brendan Fitzpatrick was also exceptional considering he was being double and triple marked the whole game.

Now for the controversial bit. I would hate to see this Donegal team win this out. They are without doubt the most negative team I have ever seen. I reckon they have 2 quality players and 13 mullockers. At times they had 14 behind the ball and then spend ages playing basketball with it. I'd say 50% of their frees in the 2nd half went backways. The ref let them away with constant fouling, walking across the free takers path to slow the game down. He even stopped the game when one of them tied his laces conveniently when cavan were on top. They are a team that shows all that is wrong with this puke cynical football and they'll be the 1st Ulster team I will not be cheering for in the semis. At the end of the 2nd half they had 7 defenders inside their 20 when cavan had the ball in their own half. The tacticians out their may applaud this type of stuff but to me it is shit that will turn people off the game.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: beer baron on April 08, 2010, 12:08:34 PM
Jaysus i thought dunne did as well as could be expected against someone as exceptionally skilful and strong as Murphy,he broke or won as much if not more ball than Murphy did and was very unlucky for 2nd goal.Givney was immense in the air but took too much out of the ball at times but still  played exceptionally well.Barry reilly is some skilful player and hard as nails for a lad thats not big.Who was the goalie?Didn't rate him at all?No.10 for us made some great bursts with the ball when he got it-lightning quick-who was he?Mc Kiernan was a big disappointment as was mc dermott from ballinagh.Bud fitz was excellent.What were the management thinking playing short balls or balls into the corner when they had big mc kiernan in full orward 1st hafl then launching it into full forward when he was pulled  out and 2 sweepers being deployed?Another point-them donegal lads fairly eat their spuds-some of them players would look like monsters up against any senior team
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on April 08, 2010, 12:24:24 PM
Quote from: beer baron on April 08, 2010, 12:08:34 PM
Jaysus i thought dunne did as well as could be expected against someone as exceptionally skilful and strong as Murphy,he broke or won as much if not more ball than Murphy did and was very unlucky for 2nd goal.Givney was immense in the air but took too much out of the ball at times but still  played exceptionally well.Barry reilly is some skilful player and hard as nails for a lad thats not big.Who was the goalie?Didn't rate him at all?No.10 for us made some great bursts with the ball when he got it-lightning quick-who was he?Mc Kiernan was a big disappointment as was mc dermott from ballinagh.Bud fitz was excellent.What were the management thinking playing short balls or balls into the corner when they had big mc kiernan in full orward 1st hafl then launching it into full forward when he was pulled  out and 2 sweepers being deployed?Another point-them donegal lads fairly eat their spuds-some of them players would look like monsters up against any senior team

The goal was nothing to do with Murphys skill. A FB never goes out  yards in front of his man to allow a high ball over his head. The 2nd goal was not bad luck he caught the ball and dropped it, don't see what luck had to do with it to be honest. No 10 was fast but thats it, he never looked up and generally ran into cul de sacs. Did the same in the semi. Maybe he will improve as he reminds me a bit of mackey at that age.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: beer baron on April 08, 2010, 12:51:50 PM
2nd goal was knocked out of his hand as he came down from stopping it going over for a point-that's bad luck!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: whats my name on April 08, 2010, 12:58:37 PM
Wasn't a great result but we had donegal on the ropes when we were two points down we were wining every kickout and we were getting scores on the board the turning point of the game for me was when the ref blew bud Fitz for picking the ball up off the ground was a very poor decision as you could see as clear as day that he got his toe under it after the resulting free donegal got a point out of it and cavan heads dropped then the goal etc
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on April 08, 2010, 01:48:17 PM
Think you are being a bit harsh on Rory Dunne Myles considering who he was on I thought he did well enough, although for the 1st goal he was caught badly.
But whatever about having no full back,You will never win a game when your Full-Forward and Centre-Half forwrad are completely out of the game. They offered nothing. Maloney-Derham should have started IMO.He would have played the role that Paddy Carroll was in excellently.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on April 08, 2010, 02:23:41 PM
So it is Fermanagh in the last round?  Hope the senior team kick on from their mni revival.  Will Brady start (it seems to be a given according to HS) and who will lose out?

What would need to happen (we can but dream) in order to get promoted?

Back to the bread and butter football and dreams of the Championship.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on April 08, 2010, 02:30:47 PM
We need a Cavan win. Wexford to lose to Antrim. Sligo to lose to roscommon. Louth Offaly won't matter unless one hammers the other. Our score diff would then put us up. Can't see Sligo lose myself
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on April 08, 2010, 03:18:44 PM
I wonder what the odds are on that happening?  Might be worth a punt.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dougal on April 08, 2010, 06:42:07 PM
rosscomon will be resting shine,im sure,and maybe one or two others.i think there f**ked win or lose,so even though they're rivals,i dont think the rossies have much of a chance.

id disagree with you as well,myles.dunne made some bad mistakes,but at times did very well on murphy,if he can cut out a few simple mistakes he'll be better than what we have at the moment.id agree with the rest of the post though.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dougal on April 08, 2010, 06:55:14 PM
i know it's early yet but heres the odds for the senior championship

Cavan Gaels    1.40
Castlerahan     7.50
Killygarry         9.00
Denn                13.00
Redhills        17.00
Gowna        17.00
Beltubret        17.00
Ramor Utd        21.00
Mullahoran        29.00
Kingscourt        34.00
Ballinagh        67.00
Lacken           67.00
Lavey                67.00
Cuchulainn       34.00
Crosserlough 101.00
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: ulster_blue on April 08, 2010, 08:10:56 PM
Well lads,

My first post here and said id give my opinion of the u-21's last night. Having read the previous few pages, what happened last night was exactly as discussed here. Donegal are a strong, powerful team who bring all their men behind the ball and then wait patiently and then play it into the inside two men who are well capable of beating there men and sticking it over (or under) the bar.

Tactically Cavan did nothing to upset this style of play and I believe that if they played the same tactics as Donegal that are two inside forwards would not be strong enough to do what Murphy and Co. could do.

Particularly disappointed with both Declan Mc Kiernan and Niall Mc Dermott. Obviously Mc Kiernan is there for free taking duties but was not at up to standard last night. Like Murphy he is a big man but the difference is pace. Murphy could get in front of Rory at full back (Rory isn't the slowest man going!!) whereas Mc Kiernan struggled to make any headway at full forward, similarly with young Mc Dermott at centre forward who offered very little and seemed to run into cul de sacs.

I also think that the comments regarding Rory's performance are a bit harsh, he was on a lethal player (2nd highest scorer in senior championship football last year) and for the most he done quite well but mistakes at this level with cost dearly and as they say "goals win games".

Budd was very lively with Mc Clarey's and Niall Smith's physicality letting them down. Again Givney was immense in midfield with Gearoid quieter than usual.

Even with all the above points it has to be said that Donegal are an extremely good team and will be hard beaten if they continue to use there "all men behind the ball" tactics. They are a physically strong team who also have pace.

Anyways that's my rant over.

Ulster Blue

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on April 08, 2010, 08:51:48 PM
disappointed to hear about Declan McKiernan and Niall McDermott being poor.
McKiernan is strong as a horse,and you would have thought hed have caused problems with his size and physicality.
Boojangles made a good point about Robert Maloney Derham,hes one of the most complete footballers ive seen for an Under 21,and gave the best performance last year i witnessed  against us,in the league for Gaels B team.Hes a big lad,fast,good ball carrier and strong,you would imagine there should have been place on the team for him.
David Givney is fast becoming one of the best young players in the country.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on April 08, 2010, 09:51:21 PM
Quote from: ulster_blue on April 08, 2010, 08:10:56 PM
Well lads,

My first post here and said id give my opinion of the u-21's last night. Having read the previous few pages, what happened last night was exactly as discussed here. Donegal are a strong, powerful team who bring all their men behind the ball and then wait patiently and then play it into the inside two men who are well capable of beating there men and sticking it over (or under) the bar.

Tactically Cavan did nothing to upset this style of play and I believe that if they played the same tactics as Donegal that are two inside forwards would not be strong enough to do what Murphy and Co. could do.

Particularly disappointed with both Declan Mc Kiernan and Niall Mc Dermott. Obviously Mc Kiernan is there for free taking duties but was not at up to standard last night. Like Murphy he is a big man but the difference is pace. Murphy could get in front of Rory at full back (Rory isn't the slowest man going!!) whereas Mc Kiernan struggled to make any headway at full forward, similarly with young Mc Dermott at centre forward who offered very little and seemed to run into cul de sacs.

I also think that the comments regarding Rory's performance are a bit harsh, he was on a lethal player (2nd highest scorer in senior championship football last year) and for the most he done quite well but mistakes at this level with cost dearly and as they say "goals win games".

Budd was very lively with Mc Clarey's and Niall Smith's physicality letting them down. Again Givney was immense in midfield with Gearoid quieter than usual.

Even with all the above points it has to be said that Donegal are an extremely good team and will be hard beaten if they continue to use there "all men behind the ball" tactics. They are a physically strong team who also have pace.

Anyways that's my rant over.

Ulster Blue

Where did you get the idea that Murphy has a lot of pace, he doesn't. I don't think he even took anyone on. In fact whenever he won ball out in front Dunne pretty much stood off him and allowed him to shoot. What Murphy has is accuracy and he can score from distance. I thought it was bizarre that Dunne would stand off him like that but maybe he was told to do that?
Declan McKiernan was not effective but they didn't stick 2 balls in on top of him the whole match. He's a good player but does lack pace but I think he's good enough to make it.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on April 08, 2010, 11:15:46 PM

Id rate Rory Dunne as a very good footballer,but any good coach will tell you that to be an effective full back you need a good burst of speed,to be able to able to get out either in front or at the very least,alongside your man for the ball.

For all Dunne's qualities as a footballer,he lacks that speed to get out ahead/or with his man,
id say he could do a job as a wing back/centre back or even midfielder at IC level,but not at full back.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on April 09, 2010, 09:50:43 AM
Quote from: Dougal on April 08, 2010, 06:55:14 PM
i know it's early yet but heres the odds for the senior championship

Cavan Gaels    1.40
Castlerahan     7.50
Killygarry         9.00
Denn                13.00
Redhills        17.00
Gowna        17.00
Beltubret        17.00
Ramor Utd        21.00
Mullahoran        29.00
Kingscourt        34.00
Ballinagh        67.00
Lacken           67.00
Lavey                67.00
Cuchulainn       34.00
Crosserlough 101.00

Dougal where did ya get those odds?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dougal on April 09, 2010, 01:43:56 PM
paddy power has alot of counties up already,agree with most apart from maybe mullahoran.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on April 09, 2010, 03:48:20 PM
Quote from: boojangles on April 09, 2010, 09:50:43 AM
Quote from: Dougal on April 08, 2010, 06:55:14 PM
i know it's early yet but heres the odds for the senior championship

Cavan Gaels    1.40
Castlerahan     7.50
Killygarry         9.00
Denn                13.00
Redhills        17.00
Gowna        17.00
Beltubret        17.00
Ramor Utd        21.00
Mullahoran        29.00
Kingscourt        34.00
Ballinagh        67.00
Lacken           67.00
Lavey                67.00
Cuchulainn       34.00
Crosserlough 101.00

Dougal where did ya get those odds?

For an Intermediate team, Ballinagh have good odds... oh wait..

;D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on April 09, 2010, 03:49:00 PM
Oh Boojangles, forgot to ask ya was the height of our grass to your liking in the home of football last Sunday??  :D :D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on April 09, 2010, 10:16:19 PM
Quote from: Celt_Man on April 09, 2010, 03:49:00 PM
Oh Boojangles, forgot to ask ya was the height of our grass to your liking in the home of football last Sunday??  :D :D

Well from the stand it seemed grand Celt Man,Yas must have finally found out how to roll a field,so Congratulations!! Ah no fair play,unlike some fields Id say it would have been fit for both games anyway.
Hows the injury coming along??
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on April 09, 2010, 10:53:59 PM
Quote from: boojangles on April 09, 2010, 10:16:19 PM
Quote from: Celt_Man on April 09, 2010, 03:49:00 PM
Oh Boojangles, forgot to ask ya was the height of our grass to your liking in the home of football last Sunday??  :D :D

Well from the stand it seemed grand Celt Man,Yas must have finally found out how to roll a field,so Congratulations!! Ah no fair play,unlike some fields Id say it would have been fit for both games anyway.
Hows the injury coming along??
Ahh sure it takes a while to catch on to all these new ideas!  Yea I reckon the pitch would have been grand for a second game my fitness on the other hand...
Ahh it's grand now, was sore earlier in the week but sure we're all made of fierce hard stuff around these parts!!  :D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on April 11, 2010, 09:40:36 AM
Well done to Paul Brady on a record equaling 6 AI singles titles in a row. Outstanding.

I see the seniors are starting Dane O Dowd and Mark Johnstone at wing back today.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on April 11, 2010, 01:25:55 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on April 11, 2010, 09:40:36 AM
Well done to Paul Brady on a record equaling 6 AI singles titles in a row. Outstanding.

I see the seniors are starting Dane O Dowd and Mark Johnstone at wing back today.

That's not good
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Theobald on April 11, 2010, 05:44:05 PM
Have the county leagues started up yet? I haven't seen much talk about club games on here yet. It's around this time of year that I start to get a longing to kick an O'Neills ball again. Unfortunately (or fortunately!!), I'll have to remain in the Caribbean this year, so I'll expect put-it-up and the other Bailieborough men on here to keep me posted on the shamrocks progress....... How is the team shaping up this year? Will we be fit for Div 2?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on April 11, 2010, 05:51:28 PM
Did I hear correctly?  On Northern Sound Cian Mackey explained the number of wides on both sides was due to each side not been used to the good weather!

Anyone who was at the match care to give a report on the game.  Are there green shoots or is it same ole same old?

But was a gorgeous day and I hope everyone managed to wear some sunscreen.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sTJ7AzBIJoI
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on April 11, 2010, 06:15:00 PM
I was at it but the sun has drained the energy from me. The second half was worthy of Mackey's excuse-terrible. Shooting from both sides was terrible but the visitors were the most guilty. A day to remember the weather only.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on April 11, 2010, 07:04:19 PM
Cavan had that heavy legged look,like against Antrim last summer.
Could have been heavy training during the week,as its 2 months to the day that we are out in the championship,so we should not be superfit at the moment.
As Lawrence said,Terrible game.
Cavan full back line battled very well,as Fermanagh won the midfield and the breaks 60/40 at least.

Michael Hannon had his best game for a few years,
Mossy Corr and Eoin McPhilips were good aswell.

Dane O Dowd i thought was very solid for his first start.
Eoin McGuigan was decent at CHB.
Mark Johnson found the going very tough,
Number 10 Fermanagh(sorry no programmes) brought him on a trip of Breffini and he struggled at times.But he came more into it in the second half.

Walsh was destroyed by im guessing it was James Sherry(big number 8 )
Sherry caught 4/5 marks,Walsh none.

Mulvey wasnt bad,he caught two marks and kicked 0-1 if not 0-2(cant remember)
Martin Cahill was the best man on the field for me,won a sight of breaks on his own,carried well and competed well at Wing Forward,wing back and then cornerback.
Gareth Smith,got on a lot of ball,and played a major part in alot of Cavans best attacks,but needs to stop shooting from so far out and give the ball into the full forward line a bit more.
Mark McKeever,played well,scored a great point when he ran straight through the Fermanagh defense,worked hard.

Cian Mackey,kicked a few great scores,but it wasnt vintage Mackey like in other games,although to be fair,playing with a beaten midfield,the ball in wasnt so forthcoming or of good quality.
Michael Brennan,didnt get into the game well,himself and Cullivan got in each others way a few times. I still think his mobility and ball carrying ability would be much more suited to wing forward.
Ray Cullivan,done some good things,great catch set up an easy chance which should have been scored.
If you have a Ray Cullivan in your team,you dont kick the ball into the corners for him,like Cavan did too often today,you play it diagonally in the air and let him compete,and he will either win it cleanly or break it.

Subs
David Givney for Walsh
Ciaran Galligan for Mulvey(kicked a great insurance point near the end)
Brendan Fitzpatrick for Michael Brennan
Gunner for Eoin McPhilips
Martin Reily for (No Idea!!!)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: North Longford on April 11, 2010, 08:20:23 PM
Was at the game today. Thought it was terrible stuff. As the wife said it was harder to watch than being off the drink for lent!!! ( she was, not me!). Fermanaghs forwards were absolutely dire.
Couple of brief observations...Hannon done well but I thought the corner forward was brutal and must have been left on for a joke. He was in front of us for the whole second half and he was hiding. He'd make a 5 yard run and then stop. All Hannon had to do a lot of the time was keep going and he'd win the ball.
Midfield is a problem for Cavan. Sherry destroyed them and Fermanagh gathered a lot more of the breaks.
As well as overdoing the shooting from distance smith overdoes the carrying as well and was turned over 3 or 4 times today. Makes it hard for the inside line when ball isn't going in.
Thought Brennan was poor when on the ball, very little came off any ball he won.
Mulvey kicked a couple of good scores and is a big man but I'd worry about his mobility against a pacey midfilelder.
Mackey was decent in the first half but I reckon only handled the ball twice in the second, once getting a fine score and then hitting the post. They need to get him on the ball more often.
Backs in general were quite tight.
Thought both McKeever and Cahill did quite well.
But I'll say it again, Fermanagh and particularly the forward were unbelievably bad.

Ps twas indeed a lovely day for a game!!!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on April 11, 2010, 09:21:17 PM
On NL's point there I think it ended up
19 wides for Fermanagh.
12/13 for Cavan.
2/3 of the Fermanagh shots,good reserve club players would have tapped over easily.
Ryan Carson also missed a few easy frees. We would have been in serious trouble against a better group of forwards with Fermanagh's midfield domination.
David Givney and one of Mulvey/Galligan has to start at midfield in June,Walsh just hasnt produced anything during this league campaign at all.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: FermGael on April 11, 2010, 09:51:28 PM
Any of you cavan men give any names of thre Fermanagh forwards who missed the simple chances??
Was a completely new full forward line today so its always good to know whose missing what.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on April 11, 2010, 10:37:13 PM
Quote from: hardstation on April 11, 2010, 10:00:12 PM
Off the topic, whatever happened to Mr. Pain? He was brilliant.

He's hiding away in the closet. Its time he came out.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on April 12, 2010, 08:37:10 AM
Quote from: FermGael on April 11, 2010, 09:51:28 PM
Any of you cavan men give any names of thre Fermanagh forwards who missed the simple chances??
Was a completely new full forward line today so its always good to know whose missing what.

Well Carson missed some bad frees and I think it was Sherry who missed the pick of the bunch late on from about 20 metres out and right down the centre. Not sure of the others but Connolly, Cunningham and Ward was the full-forward line.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on April 12, 2010, 06:44:06 PM
I wouldn't pass a whole lot of notice of that game lads. Nothing to play for and neither team would be showing their hand prior to the big match in 8 weeks time.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on April 12, 2010, 09:51:02 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on April 12, 2010, 06:44:06 PM
I wouldn't pass a whole lot of notice of that game lads. Nothing to play for and neither team would be showing their hand prior to the big match in 8 weeks time.
I thought that before the game but I doubt they were kicking the wides they were on purpose. Ditto for our lads.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on April 12, 2010, 09:51:46 PM
Quote from: Lawrence of Knockbride on April 12, 2010, 09:51:02 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on April 12, 2010, 06:44:06 PM
I wouldn't pass a whole lot of notice of that game lads. Nothing to play for and neither team would be showing their hand prior to the big match in 8 weeks time.
I thought that before the game but I doubt they were kicking the wides they were on purpose. Ditto for our lads.

Yep I reckon so...  Best thing to say about the game.... great weather!!!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: whats my name on April 13, 2010, 10:10:32 AM
i see the dublin-roscommon u-21 game is fixed for breffni this saturday should be a good game to go to if anyone is free
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on April 13, 2010, 11:40:06 AM
Hopefully it will be a game of football where can admire the skill of the players rather than enjoy/appreciate the workrate and endeavour of the players.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on April 13, 2010, 12:02:50 PM
Quote from: Denn Forever on April 13, 2010, 11:40:06 AM
Hopefully it will be a game of football where can admire the skill of the players rather than enjoy/appreciate the workrate and endeavour of the players.

Not all players are skillful but all playes can work hard and show endeavour.
It'd be great to see both.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: five points on April 14, 2010, 11:51:40 AM
Email received from County Board

The 2009, Imperial Bar, A.C.F.L Division 1 final, fixed for Wednesday 14th April, on the 3G pitch in Kingspan Breifne Park has been cancelled.



Is mise le meas,

Deaglan Mac Giolla Choille (Declan Woods)
Oifigeach Caidreamh Poiblí         
Coiste Breifne Uí Raghallaigh       
Paírc Kingspan Bhreifne     
An Cabhan
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on April 14, 2010, 05:41:00 PM
Hopefully it will be played on the Breffni pitch as it deserves that respect. 

Were they expecting a small crowd and therefore put it on the 3G pitch?  What is the viewing like at the 3G pitch?  Just trying to imagine it. 

It looks like it would have been a great evening for it.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on April 14, 2010, 05:45:07 PM
Quote from: Denn Forever on April 14, 2010, 05:41:00 PM
Hopefully it will be played on the Breffni pitch as it deserves that respect. 

Were they expecting a small crowd and therefore put it on the 3G pitch?  What is the viewing like at the 3G pitch?  Just trying to imagine it. 

It looks like it would have been a great evening for it.

I think they built a stand for it which I think is silly....  The 3 G pitch should be used for blitzes and training for county teams and as well as an alternative venue for underage club games when both teams pitches are available.  It should not be pushed as a venue in itself like it was for holding a Division 1 final.  Underage finals shouldn't even be played on it never mind adult ones
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on April 14, 2010, 05:47:38 PM
Not much on club football here...  it kicked off last weekend with Killeshandra beating Crosserlough by a point and Knockbride beat Ballyhaise after Larry got sent off in the first half. 

I didn't even know those games were on till I heard the results.  I thought everything was kicking off this weekend.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dougal on April 14, 2010, 06:02:25 PM
the stand isnt silly.it payed my wages for a week ;D
to be honest though,it's a terrible design,and on a slightly wet and windy day,everyone in the stand will get wet.a woeful waste of money in my opinion.

ye,there wasnt much talk about club football,but there werent many matches on,it really kicks off on sunday.how come the fixtures for round 1 had games at 3 different times and this week there all within a half hour of each other,i was hoping to see a second match.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on April 14, 2010, 08:37:36 PM
Prediction time lads.

Division 1
Killygarry v Gowna- Will be tight but Il go for Killygarry, narrow win.
Mullahoran v Castlerhan- Ulster League should stand to both teams-Castlerahan.
Cuchulainn v Cavan Gaels -Gaels may be slow to start but should scrape through.
Ramor Utd v Redhills- Ramor
Crosserlough v Belturbet-Belturbet
Ballinagh v Killeshandra- Good win last week for the Leaguers,may continue the run against Ballinagh who were late finding a manager- Killeshandra.
Lacken v Kingscourt- Kingscourt
Denn v Lavey- Local derby could be tight but home advantage may swing it for Denn.

Division 2
Killinkere v Drung- Drung
Drumalee v Kill- Kill
Ballyhaise v Cootehill- Ballyhaise to bounce back against Cootehill who will be missing McCutcheon,Colm Smith and most importantly 'Celt Man' ;D.
Drumgoon v Knockbride- Knockbride
Cavan Gaels v Drumlane- Drumlane have a few old heads back this year and may be a team to watch- Drumlane
Butlersbridge v Bailieboro- Bailieboro

Division 3
Templeport v Ballymachugh- Ballymachugh
Kildallon v Maghera- Kildallon
Arva v Laragh Utd- Laragh
Shannon Gaels v Corlough- Shannon Gaels
Swanlinbar v Kingscourt- Swad
Cornafean v Munterconnacht- Cornafean
Mountnugent v Killygarry- Mountnugent


Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on April 14, 2010, 08:47:06 PM
Quote from: boojangles on April 14, 2010, 08:37:36 PM
Ballyhaise v Cootehill- Ballyhaise to bounce back against Cootehill who will be missing McCutcheon,Colm Smith and most importantly 'Celt Man' ;D.

Hold on a minute, rumours of my demise have been greatly exaggerated!! 
Whether I will be picked or not will be another story!! ;D

Tough game though can't imagine they will be too happy about last week's result - ahh sure hopefully we'll give them a game
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on April 14, 2010, 10:09:31 PM
Quote from: Celt_Man on April 14, 2010, 08:47:06 PM
Quote from: boojangles on April 14, 2010, 08:37:36 PM
Ballyhaise v Cootehill- Ballyhaise to bounce back against Cootehill who will be missing McCutcheon,Colm Smith and most importantly 'Celt Man' ;D.

Hold on a minute, rumours of my demise have been greatly exaggerated!! 
Whether I will be picked or not will be another story!! ;D

Tough game though can't imagine they will be too happy about last week's result - ahh sure hopefully we'll give them a game

The way you went down in that Junior game I was looking for a sniper in the stand :D :D
It did look bad though.
Make sure ya get a rap at BH Man if your playing,he should b around the middle of the field.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on April 14, 2010, 10:12:35 PM
Quote from: boojangles on April 14, 2010, 10:09:31 PM
Quote from: Celt_Man on April 14, 2010, 08:47:06 PM
Quote from: boojangles on April 14, 2010, 08:37:36 PM
Ballyhaise v Cootehill- Ballyhaise to bounce back against Cootehill who will be missing McCutcheon,Colm Smith and most importantly 'Celt Man' ;D.

Hold on a minute, rumours of my demise have been greatly exaggerated!! 
Whether I will be picked or not will be another story!! ;D

Tough game though can't imagine they will be too happy about last week's result - ahh sure hopefully we'll give them a game

The way you went down in that Junior game I was looking for a sniper in the stand :D :D
It did look bad though.
Make sure ya get a rap at BH Man if your playing,he should b around the middle of the field.

Sure I'll just hit as many wearing a Ballyhaise jersey as I see and sure I'm bound to get him at some stage!!  ;D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on April 14, 2010, 10:24:16 PM
im not sure who Celt Man is tbh,
I know he was Cootehills junior captain a few years ago though,il have to do some research before Sunday.  ;)
some of our big junior lads will have be getting some instructions Friday Night at training  ;D

As for our game last saturday that boojangles mentioned,we were absolutely horrendous.
Larry got gate in the first half for saying some "nice things" to the Referee,which i wont repeat on here.  :D
Cootehill are one of the best teams at this level,so it should be a good game sunday.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on April 15, 2010, 10:21:26 AM
List of current stalkers

Cavan4sam.
Boojangles

BHM don't fall into the same trap the above (according to you) have fallen into.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on April 15, 2010, 03:12:43 PM
Quote from: Denn Forever on April 15, 2010, 10:21:26 AM
List of current stalkers

Cavan4sam.
Boojangles

BHM don't fall into the same trap the above (according to you) have fallen into.

ah sure its all abit of fun DF
Boojangles will pay for his shit stirring with a few raps in a few weeks time  ;)  ;D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on April 15, 2010, 03:44:58 PM
So Boojangles be on your guard.  Any targeting above the norm it could be BHM.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on April 15, 2010, 06:18:34 PM
BH Man has stalked me since I came on this board.Don't let him fool ya Denn.

Why was the League Final called off? To say its only gone beyond a joke would be beyond a joke.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dougal on April 15, 2010, 06:38:05 PM
castlerahan didnt want to play it,have 5 or 6 injuries and a few of last years players abroad.the auld lad was talking to someone on the county board yesterday afternoon and he said he wouldnt be surprised if it was never played.when did the league start last year?2nd or 3rd week in february.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: the colonel on April 16, 2010, 10:53:48 AM
I seen yesterday there is an ad in the paper for Regional Hurling Development Officer with Ulster Council for Cavan/Fermanagh. Is there much of a hurling scene in Cavan?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on April 16, 2010, 03:39:30 PM
Quote from: the colonel on April 16, 2010, 10:53:48 AM
I seen yesterday there is an ad in the paper for Regional Hurling Development Officer with Ulster Council for Cavan/Fermanagh. Is there much of a hurling scene in Cavan?

The 3 major clubs would be
Mullahoran-(hurling kingpins of Cavan and would comprise most of the county squad)
On Longford border,on main Cavan-Athlone road.I think they play in the Monaghan league
Ballymachugh- around that general area as well.
Woodford Gaels-amalgamation based in Ballyconnell,
Players from different teams in west Cavan would play for them.

Different years
Cavan Gaels
Gowna
have teams,im not sure if they have a team this year.

Baileborough also have one started up i believe.
Kingscourt/Cootehill have underage structures and teams in place.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on April 16, 2010, 03:43:55 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on April 16, 2010, 03:39:30 PM
Quote from: the colonel on April 16, 2010, 10:53:48 AM
I seen yesterday there is an ad in the paper for Regional Hurling Development Officer with Ulster Council for Cavan/Fermanagh. Is there much of a hurling scene in Cavan?

The 3 major clubs would be
Mullahoran-(hurling kingpins of Cavan and would comprise most of the county squad)
On Longford border,on main Cavan-Athlone road.I think they play in the Monaghan league
Ballymachugh- around that general area as well.
Woodford Gaels-amalgamation based in Ballyconnell,
Players from different teams in west Cavan would play for them.

Different years
Cavan Gaels
Gowna
have teams,im not sure if they have a team this year.

Baileborough also have one started up i believe.
Kingscourt/Cootehill have underage structures and teams in place.

Anyone think it's a waste of time??
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on April 16, 2010, 03:53:42 PM
Quote from: Celt_Man on April 16, 2010, 03:43:55 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on April 16, 2010, 03:39:30 PM
Quote from: the colonel on April 16, 2010, 10:53:48 AM
I seen yesterday there is an ad in the paper for Regional Hurling Development Officer with Ulster Council for Cavan/Fermanagh. Is there much of a hurling scene in Cavan?

The 3 major clubs would be
Mullahoran-(hurling kingpins of Cavan and would comprise most of the county squad)
On Longford border,on main Cavan-Athlone road.I think they play in the Monaghan league
Ballymachugh- around that general area as well.
Woodford Gaels-amalgamation based in Ballyconnell,
Players from different teams in west Cavan would play for them.

Different years
Cavan Gaels
Gowna
have teams,im not sure if they have a team this year.

Baileborough also have one started up i believe.
Kingscourt/Cootehill have underage structures and teams in place.

Anyone think it's a waste of time??

Sure every young lad growing up and playing at underage isnt going to end up on your club senior team,
why not have another Gaelic sport as an option to play on??
i dont see any harm to it.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on April 16, 2010, 03:56:18 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on April 16, 2010, 03:53:42 PM
Quote from: Celt_Man on April 16, 2010, 03:43:55 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on April 16, 2010, 03:39:30 PM
Quote from: the colonel on April 16, 2010, 10:53:48 AM
I seen yesterday there is an ad in the paper for Regional Hurling Development Officer with Ulster Council for Cavan/Fermanagh. Is there much of a hurling scene in Cavan?

The 3 major clubs would be
Mullahoran-(hurling kingpins of Cavan and would comprise most of the county squad)
On Longford border,on main Cavan-Athlone road.I think they play in the Monaghan league
Ballymachugh- around that general area as well.
Woodford Gaels-amalgamation based in Ballyconnell,
Players from different teams in west Cavan would play for them.

Different years
Cavan Gaels
Gowna
have teams,im not sure if they have a team this year.

Baileborough also have one started up i believe.
Kingscourt/Cootehill have underage structures and teams in place.

Anyone think it's a waste of time??

Sure every young lad growing up and playing at underage isnt going to end up on your club senior team,
why not have another Gaelic sport as an option to play on??
i dont see any harm to it.
Aye yea, wouldn't have much thoughts on it either way.  Would be interesting to see how much support/interest there is in hurling in the county?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on April 16, 2010, 04:04:56 PM
Quote from: Celt_Man on April 16, 2010, 03:56:18 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on April 16, 2010, 03:53:42 PM
Quote from: Celt_Man on April 16, 2010, 03:43:55 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on April 16, 2010, 03:39:30 PM
Quote from: the colonel on April 16, 2010, 10:53:48 AM
I seen yesterday there is an ad in the paper for Regional Hurling Development Officer with Ulster Council for Cavan/Fermanagh. Is there much of a hurling scene in Cavan?

The 3 major clubs would be
Mullahoran-(hurling kingpins of Cavan and would comprise most of the county squad)
On Longford border,on main Cavan-Athlone road.I think they play in the Monaghan league
Ballymachugh- around that general area as well.
Woodford Gaels-amalgamation based in Ballyconnell,
Players from different teams in west Cavan would play for them.

Different years
Cavan Gaels
Gowna
have teams,im not sure if they have a team this year.

Baileborough also have one started up i believe.
Kingscourt/Cootehill have underage structures and teams in place.

Anyone think it's a waste of time??

Sure every young lad growing up and playing at underage isnt going to end up on your club senior team,
why not have another Gaelic sport as an option to play on??
i dont see any harm to it.
Aye yea, wouldn't have much thoughts on it either way.  Would be interesting to see how much support/interest there is in hurling in the county?

f**k all to be honest.
Ive seen 3 Cavan games,1 was against Leitrim,1 was against Monaghan,it was pretty awful stuff.
1 was against Louth before an Cavan qualifer in Clones i think it was.
The considerable Cavan crowd virtually ignored what was going on.
To be fair to the hurlers,they have improved a great deal in the last few years.
It would just be the hardcore hurling fanatics,that would be involved from my experience.
An awful lot of those individuals would have fathers/mothers from very strong Hurling/Camogie counties from down south,who breed a love for the game into them from a young age.
Nicholas Walsh was a very gifted hurler at underage,i believe his dad Tom is from down south/hurling background.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: handballer09 on April 17, 2010, 11:12:05 AM
Quotewhy not have another Gaelic sport as an option to play on??

What about handball?  ;)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dougal on April 18, 2010, 05:37:58 PM
results

http://www.arvaghgfc.com/fixtures.html (http://www.arvaghgfc.com/fixtures.html)

most of the results are up within a half hour of the games being played.top class site,has all fixtures and results,updates league tables automatically.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4sam on April 18, 2010, 06:26:58 PM
Great website that, its a credit to the club. Other clubs should take note.

Cuchullains    0-10   1-17   Cavan Gaels    
Lacken    0-10   1-13   Kingscourt    
Mullahoran    1-14   0-11   Castlerahan
Crosserlough    0-4   2-6   Belturbet       
Ballinagh    0-12   2-8   Killeshandra       
Denn    0-9   0-13   Lavey       
Ramor United    0-7   1-10   Redhills
Killygarry    0-13   0-7   Gowna       


Killinkere    0-11   0-8   Drung
Drumalee    2-13   1-4   Kill       
Ballyhaise    1-11   0-8   Cootehill       
Drumgoon    0-12   1-8   Knockbride       
Butlersbridge 1-9   2-13   Bailieboro   
Cavan Gaels 1-7   0-14   Drumlane

Templeport    3-7   1-5   Ballymachugh    
Kildallan    1-12   0-5   Maghera    
Arva    2-10   1-11   Laragh Utd       
Cornafean    0-12   1-13   Munterconnacht       
Mountnugent    1-9   2-9   Killygarry       
Swanlinbar    3-19   1-3   Kingscourt    

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dougal on April 18, 2010, 07:12:08 PM
as far as i know its available to all clubs in the country.it was set up by the gaa,and sorted out through the different county boards.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on April 18, 2010, 08:17:19 PM
Great to see the leaguers flying high in Div 1 ;D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on April 19, 2010, 04:14:46 PM
I don't know about the other results but the result given for the Drumalee game is the Reserve game. The Division 2 game was Drumalee 1.13 Kill 1.6.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4sam on April 20, 2010, 07:05:30 PM
f**k this ash cloud anyway!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on April 21, 2010, 01:38:45 PM
All very quiet round here. I heard a few reviews of some of the division 1 games last week.
Martin Reilly had his nose broken as Killygarry easily beat Gowna-word is that Gowna were awful. Killeshandra got an injury time goal to beat Ballinagh who had a certain Mr. Gaynor sent off for two yellows. Lacken had Trevor Crowe lined out at full-forward and were easily beaten by Kingscourt with the score not flattering them in the slightest. Any other news? Were two of our posters not in opposition?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dougal on April 21, 2010, 01:40:34 PM
gaels have been awarded the league title.ill tell yis all the news when i get a bit of time tonight.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on April 21, 2010, 01:44:34 PM
Just beat me to it Dougal...


League title awarded to Gaels
by Paul Fitzpatrick



The Competitions Control Committee of the Cavan county GAA board have awarded the 2009 All County Football League Division One title to Cavan Gaels, The Anglo-Celt can exclusively reveal.

The committee made their decision at their weekly meeting last Monday night.

The match was re-fixed on more than one occasion, including last week when the match was fixed for Wednesday evening (April 14) on the 3G pitch at Breffni Park.

However, that game was cancelled on Tuesday night and it is understood that the CCC (under new chairman Pauric Mahon) have lost patience and have refused to re-fix the match again, instead awarding the title to Cavan Gaels who were, ironically, already the reigning champions.

Castlerahan were unable to play last Wednesday due to the unavailability of players, although it is understood that they played a challenge match the previous Sunday (April 11). The Ballyjamesduff-based club also played an ACFL Division One match, away to Mullahoran, last Sunday (April 18).

"Cavan Gaels have been awarded the 2009 league title," confirmed county board chairman Tom Reilly.

Castlerahan's inability to field on April 14 has, it appears, been taken as a concession of the tie by the CCC.

"The CCC awarded the game to Cavan Gaels after Castlerahan conceded the match," stated Reilly.

The club were to be informed of the decision yesterday (Tuesday) morning.

The Castlerahan club made no comment on the matter when contacted by The Anglo-Celt.
Comments
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on April 21, 2010, 01:49:23 PM
A time of great pride for the Gaels. Congratulations. ;)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on April 21, 2010, 01:51:28 PM
Quote from: Lawrence of Knockbride on April 21, 2010, 01:49:23 PM
A time of great pride for the Gaels. Congratulations. ;)

it's embarrassing really.  Who sponsored the Div. 1 league last year?  I would be fecking raging if I did
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Terry Coyle on April 21, 2010, 09:17:29 PM
Quote from: Thastheball on April 21, 2010, 02:34:55 PM
Quote from: Celt_Man on April 21, 2010, 01:51:28 PM
Quote from: Lawrence of Knockbride on April 21, 2010, 01:49:23 PM
A time of great pride for the Gaels. Congratulations. ;)

it's embarrassing really.  Who sponsored the Div. 1 league last year?  I would be fecking raging if I did

I would also be raging, at castlerahan for not playing the game that was fixed and bringing the last yaers final into further disrepute.

It's about time really. I heard somewhere that Castlerahan had close to 10 games called off last year. They are lucky they are not getting fined for this latest stunt.

Should be the team at the top of the league at end of the season takes the trophy - simple as. Saves all this bull of playing games in the depths of winter (or the following year! :-\)

By the way, hello all! Long time reader, first time poster!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on April 21, 2010, 09:50:08 PM
Good to have another club represented on here - will give more diversity to our debates!!  :P

As for Lawrence's earlier comments about two poster in opposition at the weekend - I'm still not ready to talk about it and have the wee matter of the Goonies on Sunday to focus on!!!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Terry Coyle on April 21, 2010, 10:06:49 PM
I'll look forward to the debates, there are a few previous comments I had to bite my lip at but will definitely be interesting! :)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on April 21, 2010, 10:39:12 PM
Quote from: Terry Coyle on April 21, 2010, 10:06:49 PM
I'll look forward to the debates, there are a few previous comments I had to bite my lip at but will definitely be interesting! :)

Oh you should let it all out!!
I promise not to question Seanies greatness anymore not that there is a gael on the board :D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Terry Coyle on April 21, 2010, 10:51:06 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on April 21, 2010, 10:39:12 PM
Quote from: Terry Coyle on April 21, 2010, 10:06:49 PM
I'll look forward to the debates, there are a few previous comments I had to bite my lip at but will definitely be interesting! :)

Oh you should let it all out!!
I promise not to question Seanies greatness anymore not that there is a gael on the board :D

Some of your previous comments have already been noted myles!  :P
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on April 21, 2010, 10:57:22 PM
Welcome aboard Terry. I think most are in agreement that it should be top of the league that is the winner especially when they're increasing the league to 16 teams. I spoke to a lad from Galway the other day and they split their top division into two sections. Each team plays each other once and I think maybe then the top two play off. The league games are run off throughout the year along with the championship. Anyway it seems our lads are more concerned with stopping champions drinking from their trophies. :-[

http://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-football/embarrassing-trophy-ruling-holds-the-gaa-up-to-ridicule-2145433.html
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on April 21, 2010, 10:59:05 PM
Quote from: Terry Coyle on April 21, 2010, 09:17:29 PM

By the way, hello all! Long time reader, first time poster!

Welcome Terry. Its about time we had a Cavan Gaels poster.

Are you anything to the Taxi Driver?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Terry Coyle on April 21, 2010, 11:10:13 PM
Quote from: boojangles on April 21, 2010, 10:59:05 PM
Quote from: Terry Coyle on April 21, 2010, 09:17:29 PM

By the way, hello all! Long time reader, first time poster!

Welcome Terry. Its about time we had a Cavan Gaels poster.

Are you anything to the Taxi Driver?

A distant relation! I know you lads try your best to work out who someone is so I will need to be on my guard!  ;D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Western Blue on April 21, 2010, 11:44:35 PM
I gather T.C. has arranged 2 challenge games against Mayo and Dublin shortly. Does anyone know the dates and venues as I would like to go along  particularly the match against Mayo who are serious contenders for an All Ireland title. Watched them already this year against Dublin and Monaghan. They have a great squad this year.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on April 22, 2010, 12:36:24 AM
Quote from: Lawrence of Knockbride on April 21, 2010, 10:57:22 PM
Welcome aboard Terry. I think most are in agreement that it should be top of the league that is the winner especially when they're increasing the league to 16 teams. I spoke to a lad from Galway the other day and they split their top division into two sections. Each team plays each other once and I think maybe then the top two play off. The league games are run off throughout the year along with the championship. Anyway it seems our lads are more concerned with stopping champions drinking from their trophies. :-[

http://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-football/embarrassing-trophy-ruling-holds-the-gaa-up-to-ridicule-2145433.html

As a latecomer to the GAA, one thing i never understood was that the team that actually finished top of the league wasnt automatically crowned champions. If the CB or whatever want extra gate receipts, they should make the team that finished 2nd from bottom in Div 1 play off the second team in Div.2 for the right to trade places. At least that way something is at stake. Last year Bailieborough had promotion wrapped up fairly early in the league but lost to Laragh in the semi-finals, who finished fourth. Even if Laragh had have won the final to be crowned Div. 3 champions they wouldn't have been promoted so it's just a joke and a pointless fixture.

With regards to the cup thing, whether someone drilled 50 holes in a cup my team won I'd still try my luck at drinking out of it - although it might be the death of a shirt ;D Anyway, it's not as if people drink out cups on the pitch anyway..it's usually done in the pub light at night where no young kid should be anyway
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on April 22, 2010, 08:12:06 PM
Quote from: put-it-up on April 22, 2010, 12:36:24 AM
Quote from: Lawrence of Knockbride on April 21, 2010, 10:57:22 PM
Welcome aboard Terry. I think most are in agreement that it should be top of the league that is the winner especially when they're increasing the league to 16 teams. I spoke to a lad from Galway the other day and they split their top division into two sections. Each team plays each other once and I think maybe then the top two play off. The league games are run off throughout the year along with the championship. Anyway it seems our lads are more concerned with stopping champions drinking from their trophies. :-[

http://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-football/embarrassing-trophy-ruling-holds-the-gaa-up-to-ridicule-2145433.html

As a latecomer to the GAA, one thing i never understood was that the team that actually finished top of the league wasnt automatically crowned champions. If the CB or whatever want extra gate receipts, they should make the team that finished 2nd from bottom in Div 1 play off the second team in Div.2 for the right to trade places. At least that way something is at stake. Last year Bailieborough had promotion wrapped up fairly early in the league but lost to Laragh in the semi-finals, who finished fourth. Even if Laragh had have won the final to be crowned Div. 3 champions they wouldn't have been promoted so it's just a joke and a pointless fixture.

With regards to the cup thing, whether someone drilled 50 holes in a cup my team won I'd still try my luck at drinking out of it - although it might be the death of a shirt ;D Anyway, it's not as if people drink out cups on the pitch anyway..it's usually done in the pub light at night where no young kid should be anyway

Yea I know that feeling, we got promoted from Division 3 a couple of years ago with a couple of games to spare.  There was quarter finals that year so we're played Cornafean who were 8th and they beat us - well in the end I think.  We deserve it though!!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on April 22, 2010, 08:19:43 PM
Boojangles I'm waiting on another round of your predictions.....

oh and don't think I didn't notice you putting Kill down for the win against yourselves last weekend in your own pitch... playing mind games within your own panel!!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on April 22, 2010, 10:26:39 PM
Predictions for this weekend

Division 2, Kill V Ballyhaise, Kill win
Division 2A, Kill v Ballyhaise,Kill win
Division 3A,Cornafean V Ballyhaise, Cornafean win.

No Mind games here.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: whats my name on April 22, 2010, 11:51:11 PM
as far as i know cavan are playing galway in mullingar tomorrow friday not sure what time but i can find out if anyone would like to make an appearence at it yea there playing mayo alright and the dubs may bank holiday it will be on the 3g pitch as the offical opening from what i was told
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on April 23, 2010, 08:41:12 AM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on April 22, 2010, 10:26:39 PM
Predictions for this weekend

Division 2, Kill V Ballyhaise, Kill win
Division 2A, Kill v Ballyhaise,Kill win
Division 3A,Cornafean V Ballyhaise, Cornafean win.

No Mind games here.
Is this your first year with a third team BH Man and how come your second team doesn't go into Division 3?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on April 23, 2010, 11:03:07 AM
Quote from: Lawrence of Knockbride on April 23, 2010, 08:41:12 AM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on April 22, 2010, 10:26:39 PM
Predictions for this weekend

Division 2, Kill V Ballyhaise, Kill win
Division 2A, Kill v Ballyhaise,Kill win
Division 3A,Cornafean V Ballyhaise, Cornafean win.

No Mind games here.
Is this your first year with a third team BH Man and how come your second team doesn't go into Division 3?

2nd team wouldnt be just strong enough to play in Division 3 Lawrence,They would be a very useful junior team,with a fair amount of lads age 20-28 who have all played senior at one time or another,but the team wouldnt have the strength overall to compete.
You see what happened Kingscourts second team last weekend and they would bea very strong outfit.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on April 23, 2010, 12:49:39 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on April 22, 2010, 10:26:39 PM
Predictions for this weekend

Division 2, Kill V Ballyhaise, Kill win
Division 2A, Kill v Ballyhaise,Kill win
Division 3A,Cornafean V Ballyhaise, Cornafean win.

No Mind games here.

Pity ta f**k you didn't take that attitude last Sunday!!!  ;D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on April 23, 2010, 01:32:59 PM
Quote from: Celt_Man on April 23, 2010, 12:49:39 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on April 22, 2010, 10:26:39 PM
Predictions for this weekend

Division 2, Kill V Ballyhaise, Kill win
Division 2A, Kill v Ballyhaise,Kill win
Division 3A,Cornafean V Ballyhaise, Cornafean win.

No Mind games here.



Pity ta f**k you didn't take that attitude last Sunday!!!  ;D

Talk about a game of two halves.
What happened you lads in the first half?McCutcheon made a big impact when he came on.
We had one of our usual meltdowns in the second half,luckily we had scored those extra few points or we could have been in trouble
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on April 23, 2010, 01:55:30 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on April 23, 2010, 01:32:59 PM
Quote from: Celt_Man on April 23, 2010, 12:49:39 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on April 22, 2010, 10:26:39 PM
Predictions for this weekend

Division 2, Kill V Ballyhaise, Kill win
Division 2A, Kill v Ballyhaise,Kill win
Division 3A,Cornafean V Ballyhaise, Cornafean win.

No Mind games here.



Pity ta f**k you didn't take that attitude last Sunday!!!  ;D

Talk about a game of two halves.
What happened you lads in the first half?McCutcheon made a big impact when he came on.
We had one of our usual meltdowns in the second half,luckily we had scored those extra few points or we could have been in trouble

We were just brutal can't put my finger on it but as bad as we were we still managed to hit 5 or 6 wides in the first half - think ye only missed 2 or 3...
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on April 23, 2010, 10:25:01 PM
Well lads, just wanted to give ye a heads up.

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/GAA-Cavan-Gaelic-Games-Ulster-Football-Ireland_W0QQitemZ230465501157QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_Sports_Memorabilia_ET?hash=item35a8d077e5#ht_1449wt_1165

Every Cavan football household should have one and they are pretty rare.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on April 23, 2010, 10:51:29 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on April 23, 2010, 10:25:01 PM
Well lads, just wanted to give ye a heads up.

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/GAA-Cavan-Gaelic-Games-Ulster-Football-Ireland_W0QQitemZ230465501157QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_Sports_Memorabilia_ET?hash=item35a8d077e5#ht_1449wt_1165

Every Cavan football household should have one and they are pretty rare.

Is that Fr Dan Gallogly's book?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on April 23, 2010, 11:31:07 PM
Quote from: boojangles on April 23, 2010, 10:51:29 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on April 23, 2010, 10:25:01 PM
Well lads, just wanted to give ye a heads up.

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/GAA-Cavan-Gaelic-Games-Ulster-Football-Ireland_W0QQitemZ230465501157QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_Sports_Memorabilia_ET?hash=item35a8d077e5#ht_1449wt_1165

Every Cavan football household should have one and they are pretty rare.

Is that Fr Dan Gallogly's book?

It is. Some great info on Cavan Gaa history although the book was written in the 70's so everything thereafter is missing.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on April 23, 2010, 11:38:42 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on April 23, 2010, 11:31:07 PM
Quote from: boojangles on April 23, 2010, 10:51:29 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on April 23, 2010, 10:25:01 PM
Well lads, just wanted to give ye a heads up.

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/GAA-Cavan-Gaelic-Games-Ulster-Football-Ireland_W0QQitemZ230465501157QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_Sports_Memorabilia_ET?hash=item35a8d077e5#ht_1449wt_1165

Every Cavan football household should have one and they are pretty rare.

Is that Fr Dan Gallogly's book?

It is. Some great info on Cavan Gaa history although the book was written in the 70's so everything thereafter is missing.

Unfortunately I reckon a dozen pages could cover from then till now! :( :(
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on April 24, 2010, 12:34:57 PM
Donal Kelly passed away this morning.

All Bailieborough games are off. A true legend
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dougal on April 24, 2010, 12:38:55 PM
any one hear anything about the challenge macth last night.i heard that declan mckiernan started full forward,but havent heard anything else.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: whats my name on April 24, 2010, 01:19:02 PM
yea i was a the game was poor stuff now ray cullivan was the best off a bad lot he had to go off injured then just after half time cavan had a second string team out miss alot of players mulvey,mackey,corr,cahill,walsh,mcphilips and a good few more just cant think off the top of my head few new faces in philip the gunner declan mc kiernan although he didnt start came on with about 10 mins left didnt see much of the ball as galway were all over cavan galway won by 10. nicky joyce gave eoin smith a torrid time and smith was taken off in the first half. not much positives from the game to be honest very poor showing by all involved
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tierworker blue on April 24, 2010, 04:48:44 PM
RIP Donal Kelly.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Theobald on April 24, 2010, 06:37:29 PM
RIP Donal Kelly

He was truly a legend of Bailieborough and Cavan football and he will be truly missed.

I remember spending many hours in his shop on Main Street, messing with the footballs and sliotars while him and my father would discuss the fortunes of the Shamrocks and Cavan. And when I started to play the game myself, it was always a great boost to the ego when Donal would compliment me on my performances.
Even to this day I would love to see him in the crowd when I'd take the field, coz I knew that a real authority on the game was looking on.

Ar dheis De go raibh anam.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Terry Coyle on April 24, 2010, 08:57:19 PM
Heard about Donal Kelly - May he rest in peace.

We bet Ramor tonight - 2-16 to 1-06. Ramor are poor team, gone downhill a lot. Few very narky players when they start losing. Looking forward to our championship encounter already!   ;D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on April 24, 2010, 10:45:55 PM
Killygarry eased past Lavey. Lavey were shocking on the day and didn't score in the first half.


With regards to Ramor, I'm sure Anton O'Reilly was having a good ould moan ;D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on April 25, 2010, 11:57:53 AM
RIP Donal Kelly.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on April 25, 2010, 12:22:02 PM
Not trying to be smart here but who is Donal Kelly? Is he anything to Paddy Kelly that used to be in The Square pub or is he related to Fr Kelly?

May he rest in peace.

Hear Ballyhaise gave Kill some hammering Friday nite. Doesn't bode well for ourselves, when we struggled against them.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on April 25, 2010, 01:24:43 PM
Quote from: boojangles on April 25, 2010, 12:22:02 PM
Not trying to be smart here but who is Donal Kelly? Is he anything to Paddy Kelly that used to be in The Square pub or is he related to Fr Kelly?

May he rest in peace.

Hear Ballyhaise gave Kill some hammering Friday nite. Doesn't bode well for ourselves, when we struggled against them.

Booj Donal was Paul's father and I think his grandson would have won a county minor medal last year. Donal played with Cavan at a young age, I think he may have played in an All Ireland Minor final with the county at some stage. Emigrated to Birmingham which would have robbed him of a few inter county honours. He returned to Bailileborough in the mid 70's when football was in a poor enough state in the town and was instrumental in getting things going at Under 16 and Minor level. Managed the County minors for at least one year.

Fantastic character and motivator, and a real gent.  RIP
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on April 25, 2010, 03:51:49 PM
From Hoganstand...

On behalf of Coiste Chontae an Chabhain, Chairman, Officers, players and clubs, we would like to extend our deepest sympathy to the family of Donal Kelly who died earlier today.

Donal was a wonderful exponent of Gaelic Games not only in Cavan but also in England and in particular Birmingham where he was a founding member of the "Erin Go Bragh" Club.

Donal represented his County during the 1950's and during that period he won 2 Ulster Senior Championship titles, 1 Ulster Minor Championship and with his beloved "Bailieborough Shamrocks" captured 2 Cavan senior club championships in 1952 & 1957.

Ar dheis De go raibh a anam dhilis.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on April 25, 2010, 07:14:34 PM
Division One

Kingscourt  2-16 1-6 Denn 
Belturbet  0-4 0-10 Ballinagh
Castlerahan  0-10 0-9 Cuchullains
Gowna  0-10 0-13 Mullahoran   
Redhills  1-14 0-12 Crosserlough 

ACFL Reserve Division 1 

Redhills  1-9 3-15 Crosserlough   
Belturbet  0-5 3-13 Ballinagh 
Castlerahan  1-11 1-10 Cuchullains 
Gowna  1-6 2-9 Mullahoran 

ACFL Division 2
 
Drumlane  2-10 1-8 Butlersbridge 
Cootehill  1-9 0-9 Drumgoon 
Drung  0-11 1-12 Drumalee 
Shercock  1-11 1-11 St. Killians 
Knockbride  3-10 2-12 Cavan Gaels 

ACFL Reserve Division 2 

Drumlane  0-7 1-7 Butlersbridge 
Cootehill  3-8 0-8 Drumgoon 
Kill  - - Ballyhaise  Conceded by Kill 
Drung  1-7 2-10 Drumalee 
Shercock  1-11 1-9 St. Killians 

Division 3
Killygarry  0-10 0-10 Templeport 
Munterconnacht  1-9 0-12 Mountnugent   
Corlough  1-5 2-19 Swanlinbar 
Ballymachugh  2-7 2-8 Kildallan 

ACFL Reserve Division 3 

Killygarry  2-10 0-7 Templeport 
Munterconnacht  1-7 0-7 Mountnugent   
Ballymachugh  - - Kildallan  Conceded by Ballymachugh
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Theobald on April 25, 2010, 07:50:13 PM
I see Shercock drew with St. Killians in Div 2....... Who are St. Killians??....... Jaysus, I've only been gone a few months and there's new rules, new clubs, I won't know the place whenever I get back!!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on April 25, 2010, 08:26:34 PM
Quote from: Theobald on April 25, 2010, 07:50:13 PM
I see Shercock drew with St. Killians in Div 2....... Who are St. Killians??....... Jaysus, I've only been gone a few months and there's new rules, new clubs, I won't know the place whenever I get back!!
Was going to ask that myself? Killeshandra beat Lacken by a point also which wasn't listed.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on April 26, 2010, 02:04:38 AM
St. Killan's are Killinkere for whatever reason... Don't understand that one either.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on April 26, 2010, 03:51:55 PM
Killinkere are joined up with Cuchulainns for U-16 and are called St Killians. Somebody is getting mixed up.
Good win for Cootehill Celt Man. You's really seem to have the Indian sign of your neighbours ha.

Cavan Gaels 2nd team were beating Knockbride by 6 points going into injury time and conceded 2-1 in the last few minutes. Nightmare.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on April 26, 2010, 07:47:50 PM
Quote from: boojangles on April 26, 2010, 03:51:55 PM
Killinkere are joined up with Cuchulainns for U-16 and are called St Killians. Somebody is getting mixed up.
Good win for Cootehill Celt Man. You's really seem to have the Indian sign of your neighbours ha.

Cavan Gaels 2nd team were beating Knockbride by 6 points going into injury time and conceded 2-1 in the last few minutes. Nightmare.

wow... I don't remember writing that earlier message at all....

Aye we were brutal... Losing by 2 point with a minute left so I would have taken the three point win!!  ;D
We got a goal in the 3rd minute of injury time - I'd say about 45 seconds after we equalised.  They must be sick!!!!

Heard that alright about the Gaels match had to hear it twice before I believed it! 
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on April 26, 2010, 09:25:56 PM
Quote from: boojangles on April 26, 2010, 03:51:55 PM
Killinkere are joined up with Cuchulainns for U-16 and are called St Killians. Somebody is getting mixed up.
Good win for Cootehill Celt Man. You's really seem to have the Indian sign of your neighbours ha.

Cavan Gaels 2nd team were beating Knockbride by 6 points going into injury time and conceded 2-1 in the last few minutes. Nightmare.

im sure you're gutted for your neighbours  ;)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on April 26, 2010, 09:26:53 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on April 26, 2010, 09:25:56 PM
Quote from: boojangles on April 26, 2010, 03:51:55 PM
Killinkere are joined up with Cuchulainns for U-16 and are called St Killians. Somebody is getting mixed up.
Good win for Cootehill Celt Man. You's really seem to have the Indian sign of your neighbours ha.

Cavan Gaels 2nd team were beating Knockbride by 6 points going into injury time and conceded 2-1 in the last few minutes. Nightmare.

im sure you're gutted for your neighbours  ;)

I've a pain in my face from smiling the whole day!!  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on April 26, 2010, 09:30:05 PM
Quote from: Celt_Man on April 26, 2010, 09:26:53 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on April 26, 2010, 09:25:56 PM
Quote from: boojangles on April 26, 2010, 03:51:55 PM
Killinkere are joined up with Cuchulainns for U-16 and are called St Killians. Somebody is getting mixed up.
Good win for Cootehill Celt Man. You's really seem to have the Indian sign of your neighbours ha.

Cavan Gaels 2nd team were beating Knockbride by 6 points going into injury time and conceded 2-1 in the last few minutes. Nightmare.

im sure you're gutted for your neighbours  ;)

I've a pain in my face from smiling the whole day!!  ;D ;D ;D

;D, How are drumgoon shaping up?
Did they have all the major lads,McDonald/McNally/Hannon/Fannin and co, out for the derby?  ;)
Is it true some of the drumgoons best players are actually from one of Cootehill's biggest estates and should rightly be playing for the Celts?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on April 26, 2010, 09:37:46 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on April 26, 2010, 09:30:05 PM
Quote from: Celt_Man on April 26, 2010, 09:26:53 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on April 26, 2010, 09:25:56 PM
Quote from: boojangles on April 26, 2010, 03:51:55 PM
Killinkere are joined up with Cuchulainns for U-16 and are called St Killians. Somebody is getting mixed up.
Good win for Cootehill Celt Man. You's really seem to have the Indian sign of your neighbours ha.

Cavan Gaels 2nd team were beating Knockbride by 6 points going into injury time and conceded 2-1 in the last few minutes. Nightmare.

im sure you're gutted for your neighbours  ;)

I've a pain in my face from smiling the whole day!!  ;D ;D ;D

;D, How are drumgoon shaping up?
Did they have all the major lads,McDonald/McNally/Hannon/Fannin and co, out for the derby?  ;)
Is it true some of the drumgoons best players are actually from one of Cootehill's biggest estates and should rightly be playing for the Celts?

Ahh hard to know what to make of yesterday's game.  I doubt either side would be too happy with their performance to be honest.  Aye they had all those boys playing.
Yea well Fannin lives in the biggest estate in Cootehill - I'd say maybe 800 metres from the pitch!  They would have another two that live in Cootehill on the senior team.  And their two wing forwards for the Juniors live in Cootehill too.

As for should be rightly playing for Cootehill - well I don't know when you live in Cootehill and there is a GAA team in the town, it's hard to explain why you would be playing for anyone else.  That's only my opinion though
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on April 26, 2010, 09:42:24 PM
Quote from: Celt_Man on April 26, 2010, 09:37:46 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on April 26, 2010, 09:30:05 PM
Quote from: Celt_Man on April 26, 2010, 09:26:53 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on April 26, 2010, 09:25:56 PM
Quote from: boojangles on April 26, 2010, 03:51:55 PM
Killinkere are joined up with Cuchulainns for U-16 and are called St Killians. Somebody is getting mixed up.
Good win for Cootehill Celt Man. You's really seem to have the Indian sign of your neighbours ha.

Cavan Gaels 2nd team were beating Knockbride by 6 points going into injury time and conceded 2-1 in the last few minutes. Nightmare.

im sure you're gutted for your neighbours  ;)

I've a pain in my face from smiling the whole day!!  ;D ;D ;D

;D, How are drumgoon shaping up?
Did they have all the major lads,McDonald/McNally/Hannon/Fannin and co, out for the derby?  ;)
Is it true some of the drumgoons best players are actually from one of Cootehill's biggest estates and should rightly be playing for the Celts?

Ahh hard to know what to make of yesterday's game.  I doubt either side would be too happy with their performance to be honest.  Aye they had all those boys playing.
Yea well Fannin lives in the biggest estate in Cootehill - I'd say maybe 800 metres from the pitch!  They would have another two that live in Cootehill on the senior team.  And their two wing forwards for the Juniors live in Cootehill too.

As for should be rightly playing for Cootehill - well I don't know when you live in Cootehill and there is a GAA team in the town, it's hard to explain why you would be playing for anyone else.  That's only my opinion though

Heard that from a Cootehill man alright, who didnt have one postitive thing to say for the Goonies or some of their players  :D  :D
You're right in thinking that,i would agree with you. im sure it doesnt help relations between you two,thats for sure!!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on April 26, 2010, 09:44:56 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on April 26, 2010, 09:42:24 PM
Quote from: Celt_Man on April 26, 2010, 09:37:46 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on April 26, 2010, 09:30:05 PM
Quote from: Celt_Man on April 26, 2010, 09:26:53 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on April 26, 2010, 09:25:56 PM
Quote from: boojangles on April 26, 2010, 03:51:55 PM
Killinkere are joined up with Cuchulainns for U-16 and are called St Killians. Somebody is getting mixed up.
Good win for Cootehill Celt Man. You's really seem to have the Indian sign of your neighbours ha.

Cavan Gaels 2nd team were beating Knockbride by 6 points going into injury time and conceded 2-1 in the last few minutes. Nightmare.

im sure you're gutted for your neighbours  ;)

I've a pain in my face from smiling the whole day!!  ;D ;D ;D

;D, How are drumgoon shaping up?
Did they have all the major lads,McDonald/McNally/Hannon/Fannin and co, out for the derby?  ;)
Is it true some of the drumgoons best players are actually from one of Cootehill's biggest estates and should rightly be playing for the Celts?

Ahh hard to know what to make of yesterday's game.  I doubt either side would be too happy with their performance to be honest.  Aye they had all those boys playing.
Yea well Fannin lives in the biggest estate in Cootehill - I'd say maybe 800 metres from the pitch!  They would have another two that live in Cootehill on the senior team.  And their two wing forwards for the Juniors live in Cootehill too.

As for should be rightly playing for Cootehill - well I don't know when you live in Cootehill and there is a GAA team in the town, it's hard to explain why you would be playing for anyone else.  That's only my opinion though

Heard that from a Cootehill man alright, who didnt have one postitive thing to say for the Goonies or some of their players  :D  :D
You're right in thinking that,i would agree with you. im sure it doesnt help relations between you two,thats for sure!!

Jaysus I'd be surprised to hear someone saying that!!
To be honest, the players would get on for the most part but some of the supporters....
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on April 26, 2010, 09:57:54 PM
Well just to add some balance, a goonie once told me that the parish that Drumgoon represents (not sure if it's called Drumgoon or something else) goes right into the town and it could be a matter of what side of the road you live on that determines where you're from. Yeah I know, sounds like bullshit to me too.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dougal on April 26, 2010, 10:44:21 PM
Quote from: Lawrence of Knockbride on April 26, 2010, 09:57:54 PM
Well just to add some balance, a goonie once told me that the parish that Drumgoon represents (not sure if it's called Drumgoon or something else) goes right into the town and it could be a matter of what side of the road you live on that determines where you're from. Yeah I know, sounds like bullshit to me too.

same sort of situation in belturbet,once you cross the bridge your in drumlanes parish,still basically the town of belturbet though.alot of the belturbet team are from the drumlane parish.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Babe Ruth 47 on April 27, 2010, 01:52:51 AM
TOM HUMPHRIES - The Times

Time for a rant on the confused morals of the GAA – Part One: alcohol Part Two: underage competition

OKAY. BAD MOOD. So first things first. This column will be personally sponsoring a nationwide competition to see who can drink the most liquor from a newly-modified GAA cup as the alcohol – poitín for competitive purposes – drains from the holes which the shiny-suited county secretary has drilled in the cup as per Cavan's skin-crawlingly embarrassing motion to congress last week. Entries on a postcard please.

Having done that and sold the TV rights, this column proposes legal action against anybody who tampers in any way with the GAA's trophies. That's from the Liam McCarthy, the Sam Maguire, the Bob O'Keeffe down to the Harty Cup and the Hogan Cup and beyond. These are cultural artefacts held in trust by the GAA. Just because Cavan never win them or would be too stingy to fill them doesn't give Cavan the right to turn them into colanders.

Let's just grow up about drink. The culture has changed. People's attitudes have changed. That is good. There is less cultural tolerance for chucking drink across counters at underage people, whether those underage people have just won a county title or not. That is good.




Is this the best our bloody couty board can come up with. They are pathetic, thay can't organise a league final and they come up with this manure!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Terry Coyle on April 27, 2010, 09:40:27 AM
Quote from: Dougal on April 26, 2010, 10:44:21 PM
Quote from: Lawrence of Knockbride on April 26, 2010, 09:57:54 PM
Well just to add some balance, a goonie once told me that the parish that Drumgoon represents (not sure if it's called Drumgoon or something else) goes right into the town and it could be a matter of what side of the road you live on that determines where you're from. Yeah I know, sounds like bullshit to me too.

same sort of situation in belturbet,once you cross the bridge your in drumlanes parish,still basically the town of belturbet though.alot of the belturbet team are from the drumlane parish.

Hmmm and the all the abuse we get for having foreign players!  :-\

Our seconds game was a shambles - No way we should lose in that situation. We couldnt cope with Tierney moved into full forward. Lads panicked. In fairness to Knockbride they never gave up so credit to them.

And as for the alcohol in cup scenario - I was embarrassed reading that article. I think people in the county board should be concentrating on improving Cavan football - seems to me they just want to get Cavan mentioned in the media (and for all the bad reasons at that).
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on April 27, 2010, 10:35:23 AM
How many people are living in Dublin but still play in Cavan for their home parish?

You play for your parish.  Anything else just wouldn't feel right.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Terry Coyle on April 27, 2010, 11:36:52 AM
Quote from: Denn Forever on April 27, 2010, 10:35:23 AM
How many people are living in Dublin but still play in Cavan for their home parish?

You play for your parish.  Anything else just wouldn't feel right.

So are you saying that if someone lives in Belturbet but is in the parish of Drumlane they should play for Drumlane and not Belturbet?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dougal on April 27, 2010, 11:53:31 AM
im from kildallon,went to school in killeshandra though,thats why i played for them and why i support them,infact,if someone asked me where i was from id say killeshandra.it's the same thing with the belturbet lads,any of the lads that are from drumlane went to school in belturbet.i suppose it's understandable,but a bit unfair on the small towns who already have it hard enough.now,taking lads from crosserlough and shannon gaels,thats pushing it a bit. :D

denn forever,i hear corr cahill and mcphllips are all injured,any of them back for the match on friday?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on April 27, 2010, 12:00:16 PM
Unfortunately don't know as I was away but we got a droubing at Kingscourt so maybe it was a good thing.  Hope it is not like last year all over again.

Dougal describes perfectly what I feel.  Where you were brought up playing. 

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on April 27, 2010, 01:12:58 PM
Quote from: Babe Ruth 47 on April 27, 2010, 01:52:51 AM
TOM HUMPHRIES - The Times

Time for a rant on the confused morals of the GAA – Part One: alcohol Part Two: underage competition

OKAY. BAD MOOD. So first things first. This column will be personally sponsoring a nationwide competition to see who can drink the most liquor from a newly-modified GAA cup as the alcohol – poitín for competitive purposes – drains from the holes which the shiny-suited county secretary has drilled in the cup as per Cavan's skin-crawlingly embarrassing motion to congress last week. Entries on a postcard please.

Having done that and sold the TV rights, this column proposes legal action against anybody who tampers in any way with the GAA's trophies. That's from the Liam McCarthy, the Sam Maguire, the Bob O'Keeffe down to the Harty Cup and the Hogan Cup and beyond. These are cultural artefacts held in trust by the GAA. Just because Cavan never win them or would be too stingy to fill them doesn't give Cavan the right to turn them into colanders.

Let's just grow up about drink. The culture has changed. People's attitudes have changed. That is good. There is less cultural tolerance for chucking drink across counters at underage people, whether those underage people have just won a county title or not. That is good.




Is this the best our bloody couty board can come up with. They are pathetic, thay can't organise a league final and they come up with this manure!

Humphries wouldnt even know where Cavan is,as its outside the pale,so any comments from him is null and void.
It is a pathetic bullshit motion,put forward by arseholes,they have time to discuss this shite,but they werent fit to appoint their own manager without outside help.  ;D
Pathetic!!!!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on April 27, 2010, 01:46:00 PM
Quote from: Dougal on April 27, 2010, 11:53:31 AM
im from kildallon,went to school in killeshandra though,thats why i played for them and why i support them,infact,if someone asked me where i was from id say killeshandra.it's the same thing with the belturbet lads,any of the lads that are from drumlane went to school in belturbet.i suppose it's understandable,but a bit unfair on the small towns who already have it hard enough.now,taking lads from crosserlough and shannon gaels,thats pushing it a bit. :D

denn forever,i hear corr cahill and mcphllips are all injured,any of them back for the match on friday?
Most of the Division 1 games are on Friday it seems-were they recently changed?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dougal on April 27, 2010, 02:40:32 PM
Quote from: Lawrence of Knockbride on April 27, 2010, 01:46:00 PM
Quote from: Dougal on April 27, 2010, 11:53:31 AM
im from kildallon,went to school in killeshandra though,thats why i played for them and why i support them,infact,if someone asked me where i was from id say killeshandra.it's the same thing with the belturbet lads,any of the lads that are from drumlane went to school in belturbet.i suppose it's understandable,but a bit unfair on the small towns who already have it hard enough.now,taking lads from crosserlough and shannon gaels,thats pushing it a bit. :D

denn forever,i hear corr cahill and mcphllips are all injured,any of them back for the match on friday?
Most of the Division 1 games are on Friday it seems-were they recently changed?


dont know,i was told yesterday that they were on,on friday.

denn forever,where is your pitch?

myles,do you know why adie burns and justin hayes arent playing this year?injuries?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on April 27, 2010, 02:53:18 PM
Quote from: Dougal on April 26, 2010, 10:44:21 PM
Quote from: Lawrence of Knockbride on April 26, 2010, 09:57:54 PM
Well just to add some balance, a goonie once told me that the parish that Drumgoon represents (not sure if it's called Drumgoon or something else) goes right into the town and it could be a matter of what side of the road you live on that determines where you're from. Yeah I know, sounds like bullshit to me too.

same sort of situation in belturbet,once you cross the bridge your in drumlanes parish,still basically the town of belturbet though.alot of the belturbet team are from the drumlane parish.

Yea all of Cootehill town is in the parish of Drumgoon
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: handballer09 on April 27, 2010, 03:34:11 PM
That motion was put forward by a club (Shannon Gaels), passed by club delegates at the Convention last December and then passed by county delegates at GAA Congress.
Of course, the board (ie the executive) gets slated, when it was nothing to do with them.
Come on lads, get real!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on April 27, 2010, 03:35:11 PM
The pitch is in Crosskeys so if you have ever been to the Springs some coutin may have been done there (if the dressing rooms were left open).

When you get to Crosskeys from Cavan Town turn left and find a parking space.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on April 27, 2010, 03:37:11 PM
Quote from: handballer09 on April 27, 2010, 03:34:11 PM
That motion was put forward by a club (Shannon Gaels), passed by club delegates at the Convention last December and then passed by county delegates at GAA Congress.
Of course, the board (ie the executive) gets slated, when it was nothing to do with them.
Come on lads, get real!

It is an embarrassment nonetheless...  But it was passed at the County Convention - otherwise it wouldn't have went to Congress (am I right there?) so all the clubs are at fault in this one
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dougal on April 27, 2010, 04:39:03 PM
cheers DF.

they're putting a meeting room in breffni,because their giving the kilmore 45K a year,to host the county board meetings.45K a year is a joke,about time they decided to change this.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on April 27, 2010, 07:18:02 PM
Quote from: Dougal on April 27, 2010, 02:40:32 PM
Quote from: Lawrence of Knockbride on April 27, 2010, 01:46:00 PM
Quote from: Dougal on April 27, 2010, 11:53:31 AM
im from kildallon,went to school in killeshandra though,thats why i played for them and why i support them,infact,if someone asked me where i was from id say killeshandra.it's the same thing with the belturbet lads,any of the lads that are from drumlane went to school in belturbet.i suppose it's understandable,but a bit unfair on the small towns who already have it hard enough.now,taking lads from crosserlough and shannon gaels,thats pushing it a bit. :D

denn forever,i hear corr cahill and mcphllips are all injured,any of them back for the match on friday?
Most of the Division 1 games are on Friday it seems-were they recently changed?


dont know,i was told yesterday that they were on,on friday.

denn forever,where is your pitch?

myles,do you know why adie burns and justin hayes arent playing this year?injuries?

Justin is finished playing unfortunately on doctors advise which is really tough for him cos he loved playin ball. Adie has a recurring groin injury which he has been struggling with for a while but he hoping to get back playing soon.  The lads are doing well without them at the moment so fair play to them. Nows the time to be winning games in Div 1, taking a few teams by surprise.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dougal on April 27, 2010, 09:57:35 PM
thats a shame bout justy,great player.good to hear about adie though,he must be 33 or 34 now?absolutely class player.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Swadman on April 28, 2010, 09:01:44 AM
Extract from Martin Brehenny article: "The GAA invites applications from suitably qualified persons to work as silver craft adjusters. Responsibilities to include altering cups and trophies so as to render them incapable of holding liquids of any kind.

Apply to: Decommissioning of Cups as Weapons of Mass Drinking Dept, Croke Park, Dublin 3.

The vacancies arise from last weekend's Congress decision to launch a vigorous onslaught on the time-honoured tradition of celebrating success with a swig from the precious silverware. A rule was already in place declaring it illegal to fill cups with any alcoholic drinks and was punishable by a 12-week ban for any miscreant who tipped a tot -- large or small -- into a trophy.

Of course it was impossible to apply the rule even if anybody had the appetite to attempt to ascertain who exactly emptied that bottle of champagne into the Junior B cup. Besides, the evidence would have disappeared very quickly.

Step forward Shannon Gaels, home club to the parishes of Killinagh, Glangevlin and Doobally in Cavan, complete with a proposal, which was backed by the County Convention, for a significant addition to the rule: "All cups or trophies shall be altered to prevent the placing of any liquids therein."
OH the embarrassment- Hillarious for anyone else.
P.S.
You are all invited to the Carnival weekend in Swad, there will be drinking - but not from cups !! 
See website for details
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: PhilsJemmysField on April 28, 2010, 04:39:10 PM

SWADMAN -- Put your coat on and your platform shoes come to Killinkere Saturday Night to Abbaesque. We are down Tom Reilly country on Sunday and we can swing past the home of St Mary's then and return the favour.   We will be drinking out of Mugs, Cups and boots if we have to ----
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on April 28, 2010, 05:52:17 PM
And you have the Whit Jamboree to come.  Going into training early?

Any idea of what will be at this years Jamboree?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on April 28, 2010, 06:00:48 PM
Just read in the match report on Hoganstand from Ballinagh - Belturbet that Padraic O'Reilly left the Cavan panel recently?  Anyone else hear about it?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on April 28, 2010, 06:29:07 PM
Tribesmen too strong for injury-hit Cavan

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Gareth Smith had a lively match at centre-forward for Cavan.

Galway 2-12

Cavan 1-8

IN the first of a series of challenge games before the Ulster championship clash with Fermanagh in June, Cavan travelled to St Lohan's grounds in Mullingar on Friday night last to take on Galway. Cavan were without twelve of the panel through various injuries and unavailability and the game had little value from Cavan's perspective except to honour the fixture.

Cavan's absentees included Dermot Sheridan, Owen McPhillips. Tomas Corr, Martin Cahill, Eoin McGuigan, Paul Brady, Nicholas Walsh, Lorcan Mulvey, Cian Mackey, Martin Reilly and Sean Johnston.

Notwithstanding such a handicap against a strong, experienced Galway side, Cavan enjoyed a good start and led by 1-2 to 0-0 after eleven minutes, Michael Brennan and Gareth Smith getting the points, Smith's effort coming after a goal attempt by Brennan was deflected for a 45 and Smith scored from the free. The goal in between these scores came when a long ball from Mullahoran player, Philip Brady, was sent towards the Galway square and Raymond Galligan got a touch to the ball to send the ball to the net after only four minutes.

That was as good as it got for the Breifne side. Galway had been slow to get into their stride and the nearest they came to a major score was an effort from Gary Sice in the seventh minute which went wide. Cavan were pegged back on the defensive for long periods following their confident start and goalkeeper Darren Murphy saved from Matthew Clancy at the expense of a 45. Galway strengthened their attack with the introduction of Padraic Joyce after eighteen minutes and it coincided with a concerted effort by the Tribesman.

Nicky Joyce, playing at left-corner forward, shot three points in an eight minute spell. The same player was again on target in response to a Gareth Smith free, the latter score coming in the 29th minute for Cavan's first score for eighteen minutes. Joyce's point in the 32nd minute was his fourth of the opening period.

Galway eventually drew level through Owen Concannon two minutes from half-time and sub Paul Conroy edged the Connacht side in front one minute later to leave the score at the interval, Galway 0-7 Cavan 1-3.

Scores were scarce in the early stages of the second-half. Raymond Galligan, now operating at full-forward, converted a free after two minutes to tie the scores for the second time before Paul Conroy had his second point for Galway one minute later to go one ahead, 0-8 to 1-4.

Nicky Joyce stretched the lead five minutes later as both sides introduced a number of subs. Seven minutes later, Galway had victory within their grasp when Padraic Joyce shot to the net in the fifteenth minute for a five point lead and five minutes later, Paul Conroy added a second for a 2-9 to 1-4 lead, Cavan having failed to score for some eighteen minutes, managing only one score in the opening two minutes.

As Galway relaxed their grip, Cavan launched a number of attacks. One such effort resulted in a penalty in the 58th minute. It came following a long ball from Mark McKeever into Philip Brady. The Mullahoran player was fouled in the square but Gareth Smith's effort came back off the woodwork and was cleared out of danger.

There was little threat to Galway's comfortable position with some eleven minutes remaining as Gareth Smith and Nicky Joyce swapped points. Another Galway sub. Danny Commins also found the target as the game entered its closing stages. Cavan sub David Givney made his presence felt with two quick points and the last two scores of the game were shared by Owen Concannon and Philip Brady.

Cavan team manager, Tommy Carr, will be anticipating a much stronger side to face the Dubs in their next outing as the search goes on for the eventual championship-winning combination.

Galway: Owen Connolly; Alan Burke, Finian Hanley, Donal O'Neill; Garry O'Donnell, Diarmuid Blake, Thomas Fahy; Barry Cullinan, Damian Dunleavy; Gary Sice, Matthew Clancy (0-1), Joe Bergin; Owen Concannon (0-2), Killian de Paor, Nicky Joyce (0-6).

Subs: Paraic Joyce (1-0), Paul Conroy (1-2), Danny Commins (0-1).Niall Coyne, Conor Healy.

Cavan: Darren Murphy; Michael Hannon, Owen Smith, Michael Johnston; Michael Brides, Dane O'Dowd, John McCutcheon; Ciaran Galligan, Ray Cullivan; Mark McKeever, Gareth Smith (0-3), Ronan Flanagan; Raymond Galligan (1-1), Michael Brennan (0-1), Philip Brady (0-1).

Subs: David Givney (0-2), Damien Reilly, Declan McKiernan.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on April 28, 2010, 06:33:55 PM
Cheers Celt Man. That report throws up a few questions such as where has Brides been and what's his status now? Is Michael Johnson really Mark Johnson in disguise? What's the deal with Brady from Mullahoran and who is Damien Reilly?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on April 28, 2010, 06:39:10 PM
Quote from: Lawrence of Knockbride on April 28, 2010, 06:33:55 PM
Cheers Celt Man. That report throws up a few questions such as where has Brides been and what's his status now? Is Michael Johnson really Mark Johnson in disguise? What's the deal with Brady from Mullahoran and who is Damien Reilly?

Aye reckon that's Mark Johnson from Cornafean.  Damien Reilly is from Belturbet - was in involved with the squad during the McKenna - nearly sure he was.  I saw in the Mullahorn club notes that Philip Brady was called into the panel last week alright...

Obviously they were very thin on the ground for numbers for that fixture whether a few of those are now on the panel or were simply called in for that game I don't know?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on April 28, 2010, 07:17:18 PM
Cavan team manager, Tommy Carr, will be anticipating a much stronger side to face the Dubs in their next outing as the search goes on for the eventual championship-winning combination.

When/Where will this game be played?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dougal on April 28, 2010, 07:25:40 PM
3g pitch monday at half 3,i think.paul brady is doing a handball exhibition at 2 on monday aswell.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on April 28, 2010, 08:03:40 PM
Aye there is a big day line up for the opening of the 3G pitch on Bank Holiday Monday... Under 10s from all the clubs in the county are involved somehow... Under 17s are playing too...

The whole thing is meant to be in this week's Celt
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: PhilsJemmysField on April 29, 2010, 10:52:29 AM
Denn Forever -- The main event at this year's Jamboree will be the Saw Doctors on the Sunday Night we are going a lot more old style this year with Ulster Tug of War, Darts and Boxing with a bit an Air Show thrown in.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on April 29, 2010, 03:53:23 PM

END TO END: Six to go and all to play for

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Sean Johnston's fitness will be crucial to Cavan's hopes.

The numbers game. Seven down, but only one to go. Twenty-eight players used, four wins gained. Forty-five days till lift-off.

With the championship bandwagon rolling into town in six weeks' time, the serious business of picking teams gets underway.

So, what has Tommy Carr being doing all of the long days and nights of his tenure in charge? To give the man his due, Cavan are an improved outfit.

Against Offaly, Wexford, Roscommon and Louth in particular, Cavan played some brilliant attacking football. Then again, while Division Three is the tightest of the four, the standard is poor. So, with one eye on the Erne men, it's hard to know where we are at - how good are our players and who are our good players?

The huge intangible at this stage is the fitness of the best attacking footballer in the county. Sean Johnston's injury was a nastier one than first thought and, at the time of writing, it's almost impossible to say how fit he'll be by June 13. The Cavan Gaels man, wires and pins protruding from under the skin of his elbow, has run himself ragged to keep up his fitness levels and has been swimming daily to hasten the recuperation process.

Johnston lacks for nothing in dedication which, along with his outrageous skill level, is why he is rated as one of the best forwards in the country. Eleven months ago, crippled by a torn hamstring, he supplied the magic needed to beat Fermanagh.

This time, the injury is worse, but he will have had more time to recover.

Aside from Jelly, then (incidentally, why have the national media not picked up on this nickname the way they have desperately clung to the "Gooch" sobriquet for dear life over the past decade?), what will TC's team be?

Fintan Reilly's spot is secure in goal. The Redhills man was late coming to senior inter-county football but has made the place his own since his first cousin James opted out. He'll make his championship debut at 31, and deservedly so.

In front of him, our full-back line has been made up of three Denn men, two rookies and one who wears the captain's armband. Tomas Corr has done as well as can be expected in a tough position, McPhilips has shone lots of strength and aggression - two things Cavan supporters have been crying out for in their defenders - while Martin Cahill has been consistently excellent.

Cahill is at his best rampaging forward, running in support and kicking scores and is wasted in the confines of corner back, where they say even oxygen is tight. Carr identified this by moving him to wing-forward for the final league match, which could be where he'll stay.

Michael Hannon is arguably the best man marker in the county but has struggled for form and had a wretched time with injuries for the past couple of seasons. He did well against Fermanagh in round seven and could well force his way in at corner-back to lend some experience to that line; that's if Under 21 captain Rory Dunne doesn't make a late break for the number three jersey.

In front of them is the toughest line in the side to choose. In the past, in a team primarily made up of ball-players, Cavan's half-back line could often be swapped for the half-forward line and nothing would really have changed. Lst year, for example, how many players did we have who could slot in in all six positions?

Aside from Mark McKeever, Martin Cahill, Ronan Flanagan, Paul Brady, Eugene Keating, Sean Brady and Martin Reilly (who made his inter-county debut at wing-back, remember) all featured in last year's championship; this year's squad, refreshingly, has less utility men and more specialists.

John McCutcheon, if he is fit, is a cert for the half-back line, while Dermot Sheridan, Paul Brady, Martin Cahill, Dane O'Dowd and Alan Clarke are all in the running for the wing-back spots. The Mullahoran pair look best equipped, with the much-improved Sheridan, who brings strength, aggression and athleticism, in the form of his life this season for DCU and for his club.

Flanagan, pound for pound the best footballer we have, is viewed as a forward by this manager it appears.

The number six jersey, at this stage, looks Eoin McGuigan's to lose. The Belturbet man has grown into the role having started the league at midfield and is likely to take his place on June 13, unless usurped by Sheridan or McCutcheon.

Before we leave the backline, stories emanating from the camp suggest that Joey Jordan has left the panel, and who can blame him? Anyone who watches club football in this county will know that Jordan is, without doubt, one of the best six defenders we have. Whether or not he'll cut it at inter-county level, well, regrettably, we'll never know as he wasn't given a chance in 2010 - Jordan didn't feature for as much as a minute in the National League, which is a real shame.

Without knowing the ins and outs, it appears that Ballinagh's Padraic O'Reilly is another player who hasn't been given nearly enough game time given his experience and ability.

Betwixt and between it all, at least we have no shortage of options at the back.

Which is more than can be said for our midfield. Nicholas Walsh is our most experienced performer but has struggled for form, and probably would've been dropped at one stage were he not injured. He is carrying a knock at present but he could well start against Fermanagh, and can do a good job.

David Givney looks an automatic choice. Barring injury, the Mountnugent man surely must start in the middle for the big one. He is the form player in this county thus far in 2010 - he can field, score, is mobile and has improved 100 per cent on last year.

His understudy at present is Ciaran Galligan, a fine athlete and a good fielder, while Lorcan Mulvey has played well since coming in midway through the league. He's strong and can play ball and could be the man to partner Givney yet.

The look of our attack, of course, will be defined by Johnston's availability. Gareth Smith, who has played every second of every match, including the McKenna Cup, on the 40, will start there, while Flanagan and Mackey will also take their places behind the band.

Of the rest, who knows? If McKeever or Cahill aren't in the half-back line they should be two lines further forward for sure. Then there's Raymond Galligan, Michael Brennan, Ray Cullivan and Martin Reilly, all of whom have live claims for a place but only a couple of whom will start. It's all to play for.

We await the upcoming challenge matches with baited breath.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on April 29, 2010, 03:56:37 PM
Good articlce for the most part but couple of questions....

Why is Hannon regarded as the best man marker in the county?  Maybe he was but certainly not at the present time
and
Is Mulvey not out with a knee injury for a considerable length of time?
and
Joey Jordan was on the panel?? Jaysus didn't even cop that if he was togged out for the Fermanagh game and Gunner - fecked from the handball the day before - came on ahead of him, you wouldn't blame him for getting fed up and walking away
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on April 29, 2010, 05:30:04 PM
No you wouldn't blame him and I have yet to be convinced by Brady but Cavan always seem to pick him.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on April 29, 2010, 05:35:55 PM
Quote from: Denn Forever on April 29, 2010, 05:30:04 PM
No you wouldn't blame him and I have yet to be convinced by Brady but Cavan always seem to pick him.

Gunner DF? id have to disagree with that
Gunner has arguabely been one of our most consistent performers down the years for Cavan.
Drawn game against Tyrone 2005,He was the best man on a field of multipe all stars,and players of the year awardees.The only bad game i can remember him having  for Cavan was when Coulter gave him a roasting at corner back,in Breffini when Benny set up and scored a goal.
Hes been a consistently solid performer for Cavan,the same as your clubmate Martin Cahill.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on April 29, 2010, 07:18:37 PM
Can't say I'm impressed by the article. There may/may not be a better keeper than Fintan but I don't remember a game that I could say he's played well in. If this is the form of Dermot Sheridan's life we're in trouble. He was terrible against Louth at midfield and sometimes he just falls asleep and doesn't look interested. If his head is right then he's a great asset but this year it looks like quite a big "if".
As sad as it is Mulvey could be the best option at MF with Givney unless some of the U-21s come in. I think we'll ultimately pay the price for playing him though as he can't be trusted to behave himself for 70 minutes.
Not to nit-pick but Nesty hasn't played every minute this year. What about full-forward. A big position that nobody has claimed. Galligan, Brennan and Cullivan (sort of) have all had a go at it.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on April 29, 2010, 09:26:01 PM
But where do you play him? 

The most I have seen him is for Mullahoran and he didn't impress me there.

So if you are going to play, where? 

We are looking for someone to play with Givney so maybe at midfield?  He is commited and can look after himself so why not?  Is high fielding a big component of Gaelic Football nowadays anyway?

But we have a long time so now is the time to look outside the box.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on April 29, 2010, 09:59:00 PM
Quote from: Denn Forever on April 29, 2010, 09:26:01 PM
But where do you play him? 

The most I have seen him is for Mullahoran and he didn't impress me there.

So if you are going to play, where? 

We are looking for someone to play with Givney so maybe at midfield?  He is commited and can look after himself so why not?  Is high fielding a big component of Gaelic Football nowadays anyway?

But we have a long time so now is the time to look outside the box.
Id play him wing or if Eoin McGuigan isnt fit,Centre Back.
A half back line consisting of
Paul Brady  Eoin McGuigan   John McCutcheon
has a nice ring to it,would you not agree?
Plus it frees Ronan Flanagan,McKeever up for the forwards.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on April 30, 2010, 09:59:35 PM
The kindest thing may have been to let us be relegated last year.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on May 01, 2010, 12:38:43 AM
Tonight's results.

ACFL Division 1

Killygarry  1-5 0-10 Mullahoran 
Ramor United  0-10 2-7 Castlerahan 
Crosserlough  0-4 2-14 Cavan Gaels 
Ballinagh  2-17 2-8 Redhills   
Lacken  0-13 0-7 Belturbet 
Denn  0-8 1-14 Killeshandra   
Lavey  2-8 2-14 Kingscourt 
 
ACFL Division 2

Ballyhaise  0-14 0-6 Drung   
Drumgoon  0-8 0-7 Kill   
Butlersbridge  1-9 4-12 Knockbride   
Bailieboro  0-13 1-13 Drumlane 

ACFL Division 3

Templeport  0-11 3-9 Kildallan   
Arva  2-7 0-7 Ballymachugh   
Cornafean  0-14 0-6 Corlough   
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on May 01, 2010, 01:02:32 AM
Quote from: Denn Forever on April 30, 2010, 09:59:35 PM
The kindest thing may have been to let us be relegated last year.
Where's mousy this year? And who does Martin Cahill think he is? Running onto the field and him not even togged?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on May 01, 2010, 01:04:02 AM
Quote from: Lawrence of Knockbride on May 01, 2010, 01:02:32 AM
Quote from: Denn Forever on April 30, 2010, 09:59:35 PM
The kindest thing may have been to let us be relegated last year.
Where's mousy this year? And who does Martin Cahill think he is? Running onto the field and him not even togged?
What happened there?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on May 01, 2010, 11:38:53 AM
Quote from: Celt_Man on May 01, 2010, 01:04:02 AM
Quote from: Lawrence of Knockbride on May 01, 2010, 01:02:32 AM
Quote from: Denn Forever on April 30, 2010, 09:59:35 PM
The kindest thing may have been to let us be relegated last year.
Where's mousy this year? And who does Martin Cahill think he is? Running onto the field and him not even togged?
What happened there?
One of the Denn lads was after swinging a box right beside the Denn dugout and the ref was approaching looking like he was going to produce a justified red card when Cahill raced in his direction jumping like a man posessed presumably trying to convince the ref not to send him off. This of course caused a 10 man handbags affair.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dougal on May 01, 2010, 11:46:17 AM
that was pretty stupid on cahills behalf alright.

im going to have to do a list like BH man ,only a list of killeshandra stalkers. ;D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on May 01, 2010, 01:31:38 PM
Quote from: Dougal on May 01, 2010, 11:46:17 AM
that was pretty stupid on cahills behalf alright.

im going to have to do a list like BH man ,only a list of killeshandra stalkers. ;D
I love a good bandwagon. :D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on May 01, 2010, 02:42:01 PM
Current Killeshandra stalkers:

No 1: Dougal- Killeshandra and proud
No 2: Lawrence of Knockbride- closet Killeshandra supporter but he's letting the mask slip :D :D  He's the supporter wearing the trench coat, fishermans hat and sunglasses at all Leaguers games.
No 3: Myles the Slasher- would love to be around to stalk his home club but has to rely on updates from home.

Potential Killeshandra stalkers:

BallyhaiseMan - Seriously worried about Killeshandras superb form in Division One and fearing the Intermediate championship may turn into a cake walk for the Leaguers, some serious stalking may have to occur to try and find out the key to this Killeshandra teams success.
Boojangles - Reasons outlined above
Celt Man - Reasons outlined above
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on May 01, 2010, 05:58:26 PM
Quote from: boojangles on May 01, 2010, 02:42:01 PM
Current Killeshandra stalkers:

No 1: Dougal- Killeshandra and proud
No 2: Lawrence of Knockbride- closet Killeshandra supporter but he's letting the mask slip :D :D  He's the supporter wearing the trench coat, fishermans hat and sunglasses at all Leaguers games.
No 3: Myles the Slasher- would love to be around to stalk his home club but has to rely on updates from home.

Potential Killeshandra stalkers:

BallyhaiseMan - Seriously worried about Killeshandras superb form in Division One and fearing the Intermediate championship may turn into a cake walk for the Leaguers, some serious stalking may have to occur to try and find out the key to this Killeshandra teams success.
Boojangles - Reasons outlined above
Celt Man - Reasons outlined above

I'll have to change my outfit. I think you're letting Dougal off lightly there. He's a self-confessed Kildallon man. Maybe when "we" move back to our own pitch he'll support his own club. ;D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on May 01, 2010, 06:40:31 PM
I think the secret to Killeshandras success is Stephen King and the fact that he is now working wonders with Ballymachugh.  ;)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dougal on May 01, 2010, 09:51:44 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on May 01, 2010, 06:40:31 PM
I think the secret to Killeshandras success is Stephen King and the fact that he is now working wonders with Ballymachugh.  ;)

another killeshandra man that doesnt rate stephen king??
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on May 02, 2010, 03:19:50 PM
Quote from: Dougal on May 01, 2010, 09:51:44 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on May 01, 2010, 06:40:31 PM
I think the secret to Killeshandras success is Stephen King and the fact that he is now working wonders with Ballymachugh.  ;)

another killeshandra man that doesnt rate stephen king??

I'd say the only Killeshandra man that rates King at this stage is himself :D

In fairness though for whatever reason in club GAA, a preacher in his homeland is rarely appreciated.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on May 02, 2010, 08:24:12 PM
Quote from: boojangles on May 01, 2010, 02:42:01 PM
Current Killeshandra stalkers:

No 1: Dougal- Killeshandra and proud
No 2: Lawrence of Knockbride- closet Killeshandra supporter but he's letting the mask slip :D :D  He's the supporter wearing the trench coat, fishermans hat and sunglasses at all Leaguers games.
No 3: Myles the Slasher- would love to be around to stalk his home club but has to rely on updates from home.

Potential Killeshandra stalkers:

BallyhaiseMan - Seriously worried about Killeshandras superb form in Division One and fearing the Intermediate championship may turn into a cake walk for the Leaguers, some serious stalking may have to occur to try and find out the key to this Killeshandra teams success.
Boojangles - Reasons outlined above
Celt Man - Reasons outlined above

Sure im stalking everyone on this board.  ;)
If any of ye are talking to or approached by a Ballyhaise clubman,just remember,it could be me.  :P
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on May 02, 2010, 08:25:23 PM
Quote from: put-it-up on May 02, 2010, 03:19:50 PM
Quote from: Dougal on May 01, 2010, 09:51:44 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on May 01, 2010, 06:40:31 PM
I think the secret to Killeshandras success is Stephen King and the fact that he is now working wonders with Ballymachugh.  ;)

another killeshandra man that doesnt rate stephen king??

I'd say the only Killeshandra man that rates King at this stage is himself :D

In fairness though for whatever reason in club GAA, a preacher in his homeland is rarely appreciated.

Put it up,how did our thirds do against your thirds this afternoon do you know?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on May 02, 2010, 08:39:08 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on May 02, 2010, 08:25:23 PM
Quote from: put-it-up on May 02, 2010, 03:19:50 PM
Quote from: Dougal on May 01, 2010, 09:51:44 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on May 01, 2010, 06:40:31 PM
I think the secret to Killeshandras success is Stephen King and the fact that he is now working wonders with Ballymachugh.  ;)

another killeshandra man that doesnt rate stephen king??

I'd say the only Killeshandra man that rates King at this stage is himself :D

In fairness though for whatever reason in club GAA, a preacher in his homeland is rarely appreciated.

Put it up,how did our thirds do against your thirds this afternoon do you know?
CFL Reserve Division 3
Team 1   Score   Score   Team 2   Venue   Comment   
Bailieboro    2-8   1-13   Ballyhaise    Bailieboro   Round 4   
Templeport    2-6   2-14   Kildallan    Templeport   Round 4   
Shannon Gaels    1-7   2-4   Killinkere    Shannon Gaels   Round 4   
Killygarry    3-14   3-5   Munterconnacht    Killygarry   Round 4   
Cornafean    1-6   0-6   Killeshandra    Cornafean   Round 4
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on May 02, 2010, 08:49:11 PM
Quote from: Lawrence of Knockbride on May 02, 2010, 08:39:08 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on May 02, 2010, 08:25:23 PM
Quote from: put-it-up on May 02, 2010, 03:19:50 PM
Quote from: Dougal on May 01, 2010, 09:51:44 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on May 01, 2010, 06:40:31 PM
I think the secret to Killeshandras success is Stephen King and the fact that he is now working wonders with Ballymachugh.  ;)

another killeshandra man that doesnt rate stephen king??

I'd say the only Killeshandra man that rates King at this stage is himself :D

In fairness though for whatever reason in club GAA, a preacher in his homeland is rarely appreciated.

Put it up,how did our thirds do against your thirds this afternoon do you know?
CFL Reserve Division 3
Team 1   Score   Score   Team 2   Venue   Comment   
Bailieboro    2-8   1-13   Ballyhaise    Bailieboro   Round 4   
Templeport    2-6   2-14   Kildallan    Templeport   Round 4   
Shannon Gaels    1-7   2-4   Killinkere    Shannon Gaels   Round 4   
Killygarry    3-14   3-5   Munterconnacht    Killygarry   Round 4   
Cornafean    1-6   0-6   Killeshandra    Cornafean   Round 4

Thanks Lawrence,Its much appreciated.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on May 02, 2010, 10:51:29 PM
Anyone know what the story is with the 3G pitch opening tomorrow?  What time the games start at?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on May 03, 2010, 06:38:06 PM
Quote from: Celt_Man on May 01, 2010, 01:04:02 AM
Quote from: Lawrence of Knockbride on May 01, 2010, 01:02:32 AM
Quote from: Denn Forever on April 30, 2010, 09:59:35 PM
The kindest thing may have been to let us be relegated last year.
Where's mousy this year? And who does Martin Cahill think he is? Running onto the field and him not even togged?
What happened there?

Well I was not at the game but this is what I heard happened from a lad who was there. Denn player took a foul shoulder from rory braiden, got up and struck the wrong player in Daniel Luby. Ref comes over to obviously give him a red card but before he gets it out of his pocket on come martin cahill, not even togged out, and starts jumping up and down in the refs face. Ref hands out the red card anyway. Then Thomais Reilly comes over and pushes cahill away and gets 2 boxes from the cahill for his trouble. Cahill goes back to the line and spends much of the match out on the pitch. Never thought Cahill was that stupid but there you go, maybe being county captain has gone to his head. Apart from that I believe the story of the game was that the leaguers destroyed Denn with Declan McKiernan at FF doing serious damage.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on May 03, 2010, 09:14:26 PM
Anyone at the Dublin game today?  Any word on how it went?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on May 03, 2010, 09:30:39 PM
Cavan won by 4 I think but Dublin were quite disappointing.  We thought Cavan were shot shy.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Western Blue on May 03, 2010, 11:29:20 PM
Travelled over from the West to see the match and have a look at the new 3G pitch. It looks to be a fabulous  playing surface to play on and the players seemed to enjoyed it. Could be slippery  if wet ? Anyway Cavan Gaa are leading the way for other counties again! Cavan played well in the first half and took their chances  with plenty of movement and support for the man on the ball. However on at least 4 occasions we were opened up at the back and Dublin could have had 2/3 goals. Paul Brady,Dermot Sheridan,John McCutcheon and Eoin Mc Phillips can be pleased with their performance. Dublin had 2 huge men at midfield in Fennell and McConnell and they were cleaning up early but Cullivan/ Givney never gave up .Givney took a huge hit in the small of his back and had to go off as a precaution .a pity because when on the ball he used it well
Flanagan,Nesty and McKeever worked hard  although I though McKeever ran out of steam in the 2nd half.Mackey was quite but still got on the score sheet.Didn't come out for the 2nd half.Declan Mc Kiernan will have enjoyed experience playing at this level but was ball watching on a couple of occasions...good for the future.Not sure about Phiip Brady . didn't think he was physically fit compared to the other players but then he he has just come in.
Spoke with some the backroom people after the game about Seanie Johnston....seems to be running out of time to be ready for the Fermanagh game.Not fit for any contact training yet..pity. We deserved to win as Dublin players on view were poor. Yet again I suppose we were poor attack wise in the 2nd half running with the ball into heavy traffic/turning over the ball....no long distance shooting
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: beer baron on May 04, 2010, 10:52:13 AM
At the game yesterday,was shocked at how poor the Dublin forwards were!I mean they were awful!For ourselves i was pretty pleased,some tidy football played,and few good performance.Felt full back line was a bit loose and can't understand why Dane was full back.Half back line played well and did some nice runs forward.Midfield i felt was a weakness again up against 2 massive men-gibney couldn't do his usual fielding but was good on the ball but Cullivan i thought was very selfish with the ball on a number of occassions,always trying to beat at least one player before letting it on.I thought Mackey caused the dubs big trouble 1st half and only took off at half time to give other lads a run.Nesty was good when involved but was in and out of the game but very reliable freetaker.Mc Kiernan  was average but will come good in time im sure.Brady showed well for the ball and used it well,though i might be over rating him just because i didn't expect anything from him as dont know of him at all.Mickey brennan did very little when introduced but ciaran galligan did wel,hit 2 nice scores.Just watching cluxton kicking out yesterday-unbelievable accuracy even against the wind.Think Cavan won by about 6 points i think.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on May 04, 2010, 01:34:11 PM
Cheers Western Blue and Beer Baron for the update. Any chance of line-ups?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dougal on May 04, 2010, 01:57:17 PM
Quote from: Lawrence of Knockbride on May 04, 2010, 01:34:11 PM
Cheers Western Blue and Beer Baron for the update. Any chance of line-ups?

1.fintan reilly
2.dermot sheridan
3.dane o dowd
4.eoin mcphillips
5.paul brady
6.eoin mcguigan
7.john mccutcheon
8.ray cullivan
9.david givney
10.ronan flanagan
11.nesty
12.mckeever
13.mackey
14.declan mckiernan
15.philip brady


head was very sore and cant remeber what subs came on,other than galligan for givney,early on,and the other galligan for mckiernan late on.bud came on for philip brady aswell with about 10 mins left,and brady came back on at some stage.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on May 04, 2010, 02:06:28 PM
SF challenge: Cavan down the Dubs
04 May 2010


Former Dub Gareth 'Nesty' Smith helped his adopted Cavan to a four-point victory over Pat Gilroy's side in a senior football challenge to mark the official opening of the new 3G pitch at Kingspan Breffni Park yesterday.

Cavan 0-14
Dublin 0-10

The St. Oliver Plunkett's clubman scored 0-2, while Cian Mackey and Declan McKiernan were also prominent for Tommy Carr's side who laid the foundations for their victory in the first half when they built up a 0-10 to 0-4 lead. Paddy Andrews was the visitors' best player in the opening half, helping himself to 0-3.

Tomas Quinn came off the bench to score 0-4 from frees in the second half for Dublin, but Cavan held on for the win.

Scorers - Cavan: C Mackey, G Smith (0-2f), D McKiernan, Philip Brady, C Galligan 0-2 each, A Clarke, Paul Brady, D Givney, R Galligan (0-1f) 0-1 each. Dublin: T Quinn 0-4 (0-3f, 0-1 45), P Andrews 0-3, K McManamon, D Henry, D Connolly 0-1 each.

Cavan: F Reilly; D Sheridan, D O'Dowd, E McPhillips; Paul Brady, E McGuigan, J McCutcheon; R Cullivan, D Givney; R Flanagan, G Smith, M McKeever; C Mackey, D McKiernan, Phillip Brady. Subs: C Galligan for Givney (22), M Brides for Paul Brady (57), B Fitzpatrick for Phillip Brady (57), R Galligan for McKiernan (57), A Clarke for McGuigan (58), E Smith for McPhillips (62), M Brennan for Mackey (67), Philip Brady for Flanagan (68).

Dublin: S Cluxton; Paul Brogan, P McMahon, D Bastick; P Casey, G Brennan, J Brogan; E Fennell, R McConnell; D Kelly, D Henry, A Hubbard; P Andrews, K McManamon, B McManamon. Subs: C Murphy for K McManamon (20), D Connolly for McConnell (43), E O'Gara for Hubbard (43), T Quinn for B McManamon (43), D Watson for Casey (48).

Referee: P McEneaney (Monaghan).

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on May 05, 2010, 03:52:48 PM
I was too hungover to go into Breffini Monday,any win against the dubs is a welcome one.
Ive said it before and its been pointed out im almost certainly  the biggest Ray Cullivan fan on here,but at 5'11, hes too small to play midfield at IC level.I was told Fennell and McConnell were winning the battle at mf well until Galligan came on?,granted we wont come against as good as them against Fermanagh,but thats not a good sign.
Givney and Galligan pairing to start at midfield with Ray wing forward seems to be the best option.
It certainly makes a change from what happened when Dublin came down to open Templeports ground a few years ago.
Pierson done his knee in,a few players got lost in a pub on the way to the game and Dublin won on a scoreline of something like 4-15 to 0-09.
Progress!!!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on May 05, 2010, 09:51:21 PM
Cavan impress against Dublin
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Cavan's Philip Brady in action.

Cavan 0-14

Dublin 0-10

Cavan senior footballers got the magnificent new 3g pitch at Kingspan Breffni Park off to the best possible start with a comfortable victory over Dublin in a well-attended senior challenge match last Monday afternoon.

If leagues are for playing and championships are for winning, then challenge matches are surely for experimenting and Cavan manager Tom Carr did just that, trying out Drumlane's Dane O'Dowd at full-back and both Declan McKiernan and Philip Brady in the full-forward line.

All three did well, even if O'Dowd didn't look entirely comfortable at all times away from his natural home in the half-back line.

One player who did slot in as if he had never been away was Paul Brady, who returned from handball duties to turn in an excellent shift in his first start of the year.

The Gunner had a fine game at number five, setting the tone from the off by grabbing the first point on the new field with a fine strike from 35 metres just a minute in.

Cian Mackey curled over a sweet score 40 seconds later as Cavan made all of the early running but Dublin soon settled, with the towering Eamon Fennell and Ross McConnell taking charge around the middle where Ray Cullivan, who has only recently returned from injury, toiled hard without making a major impact.

The lively Paddy Andrews fired over Dublin's first in the sixth minute before Kevin McMenamin, who would go on to kick some poor wides, levelled it up in the sixth minute.

A mistake by O'Dowd allowed Andrews in for a point on the 12-minute mark but Declan McKiernan kept his head to punch over a point at the other end seconds later to make it 0-3 apiece.

While Dublin kicked some woeful wides at times, Cavan had no luck themselves and hit the upright three times over the 70 minutes. The first of these arrived in the 14th minute when the influential Gareth Smith, whose vision, guile and guts on the 40 were a feature of the match, struck the outside of the post with a massive effort from the wing.

On their next attack, Cavan's Mark McKeever saw a good shot from the wing bounce on the crossbar and return into play but the hosts were live to the break and David Givney fired over a neat point from the rebound to make it 4-3.

A fabulous score from Mackey, who dummied left and right before firing over from the right wing, opened a two-point gap and a sweet left-footed point from McKiernan extended Cavan's lead to three.

Dublin hit back through Andrews, who was giving Eoin McPhilips a tough time, but Cavan were by now playing much the better football, moving the ball at pace on a super-fast surface.

A fisted point from Philip Brady, followed by a Smith free and a tidy score from sub Ciaran Gilligan (after good work under pressure by O'Dowd) opened a deserved five-point lead.

The margin was extended to six, 0-10 to 0-4, when Smith curled over well from a free after a foul on Mackey and that's how it remained at the break, with Cavan unluckily striking the upright once more just before Pat McEnaney's half-time whistle.

The second half was a slow-burner, with the Dubs strangely muted. There was no score for the first 14 minutes, during which time McEnaney ordered the Dublin management to replace Paul Casey after the wing-back felled Ray Cullivan with a cheap shot, a shoulder into the back after the Ballyhaise man bravely rose to gather a "hospital pass" from Paul Brady.

Cavan eventually moved seven clear in the 49th minute when Ciaran Galligan, who impressed when introduced early on for the injured Givney, curled over a good point on the run and although Dublin replied with two Tomas Quinn frees, an excellent score on the run by Alan Clarke- another sub who made quite an impact - made it 12-6.

Raymond Galligan slotted over a routine free with his first touch in the 58th minute but from then on, the intensity faded as the match petered out.

Philip Brady showed great determination to send over a fine point in the 65th minute and although Dublin kept in touch with a succession of frees from Quinn, the match was long over as a contest by this stage.

Cavan won pulling up by four but the run-out was a useful one. Problems remain in some areas but a number of players, including Dermot Sheridan, Gareth Smith and Mark McKeever, showed that they are hitting form at the right time with the big test just five weeks away.

Any day, as one fan remarked on the way out, that you beat the Leinster champions is a good day. Hear hear. Cavan will take this one; just don't read too much into it...

Cavan: Fintan Reilly, Dermot Sheridan, Dane O'Dowd, Eoin McPhilips, Paul Brady (0-1), Eoin McGuigan, John McCutcheon, Ray Cullivan, David Givney (0-1), Ronan Flanagan, Gareth Smith, Mark McKeever, Cian Mackey, Declan McKiernan, Philip Brady

SUBS: Alan Clarke (0-1), Michael Brides, Michael Brennan, Ciaran Galligan (0-2), Brendan Fitzpatrick, Ray Galligan (0-1f)

Dublin: Stephen Cluxton, Paul Brogan, Denis Bastick, Philly McMahon, James Brogan, Ger Brennan, Paul Casey, Eamon Fenell, Ross McConnell, David Kelly, David Henry (0-1), Alan Hubbard, Paddy Andrews (0-3), Kevin McMenamin (0-1), Brendan McMenamin

SUBS: Tomas Quinn (0-4f)

REF: Pat McEnaney (Monaghan)

• Cavan Under 17s also took on the Dublin Development Squad before the senior match.

Next up for Cavan seniors is a challenge match against Mayo in Belmullet on Saturday, May 15 as preparations for the Ulster first round against Fermanagh on June 13 continue.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dougal on May 07, 2010, 08:45:25 PM
Saturday, 08th May @ 7pm
Imperial Bar A.C.F.L. Division 1 Round 5
Killeshandra v Lavey       lavey by 2
Belturbet v Denn          belturbet by 5
Redhills v Lacken (Game at 5.30pm)         redhills by 2
Cavan Gaels v Ballinagh       gaels by 8+
Castlerahan v Crosserlough    castlerahan by 7
Gowna v Ramor Utd      gowna by 2
Mullahoran v Cuchulainn       mullahoran by 5
Kingscourt v Killygarry    killygarry by 3


Saturday, 08th May @ 7pm
John Brady Insurances Ltd A.C.F.L. Division 2 Round 5
Knockbride v Bailieboro      knockbride by 3
Cootehill v Butlersbridge    cootehill by 6
Kill v Cavan Gaels (Game at 3pm)    cavan gaels by 1
Drung v Drumgoon    drumgoon by 2
Shercock v Ballyhaise    ballyhaise by 4
Killinkere v Drumalee      drumalee  by 3


Saturday, 08th May @ 7pm
Kiernan Service Stations A.C.F.L. Division 3 Round 5
Munterconnacht v Templeport    munchies by 4
Kingscourt v Killygarry (Game at 5.30pm) killygarry by 5
Corlough v Mountnugent    mountnugent   by  3
Laragh Utd v Cornafean    laragh  by 6
Maghera v Swaninbar   swanlinbar  by 16
Ballymachugh v Shannon Gaels     shannon gaels by 3
Ballyconnell First Ulsters v Arva   arva by 5

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on May 07, 2010, 10:33:53 PM
it's that time of year again...pick your 15 for championship.

Fintan Reilly - Doesn't inspire confidence but the best available I think.
Michael Hannon - Still don't think there are any better options and seems to be back in decent shape
Corr - Still think Darren Smith is the best full-back in the county though he isn't on the squad, and Rory Dunne doesn't want to go in.
Cahill- Just can't understand why Joey Jordan never got a shot. McPhillips does what it say's on the tin but hasn't overly impressed me
McCutcheon - Really like what he brings. Strong running and a decent defender
McGuigan - Probably the surprise of the league. 6 looks his to lose
Gunner - Don't know what form he is in but would make my team any day.
Givney - Goin to be be another step up for him but he is the most improved player in Cavan by a country-mile
Galligan - Gearoid McKiernan would be worth a try but is States bound and I think Galligan overs more than the other candidates.
McKeever - Glad he is back. Good player and works hard.
Nesty - Needs to stop looking for the perfect ball all the time but very interested to see how he fares in championship pace.
Flanagan - I think he is class. Just needs to get settled in a position.
Johnston - Obviously depends on his fitness. If not, I would go with Martin Reilly.
Cullivan - Plenty of ability. Would pull him out in stages and try to get Mackey and Jelly in space.
Mackey - Keep him in there with Johnston. Then we have two genuin threats

Obviously its close to team that has been playing but there is not much point butting in lads that aren't even on the squad. Left Sheridan out but he could easily be there ahead of McCutcheon or Brady. Just my own personal choice.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dougal on May 07, 2010, 11:14:12 PM
Quote from: put-it-up on May 07, 2010, 10:33:53 PM
it's that time of year again...pick your 15 for championship.

Fintan Reilly - Doesn't inspire confidence but the best available I think.
Michael Hannon - Still don't think there are any better options and seems to be back in decent shape
Corr - Still think Darren Smith is the best full-back in the county though he isn't on the squad, and Rory Dunne doesn't want to go in.
Cahill- Just can't understand why Joey Jordan never got a shot. McPhillips does what it say's on the tin but hasn't overly impressed me
McCutcheon - Really like what he brings. Strong running and a decent defender
McGuigan - Probably the surprise of the league. 6 looks his to lose
Gunner - Don't know what form he is in but would make my team any day.
Givney - Goin to be be another step up for him but he is the most improved player in Cavan by a country-mile
Galligan - Gearoid McKiernan would be worth a try but is States bound and I think Galligan overs more than the other candidates.
McKeever - Glad he is back. Good player and works hard.
Nesty - Needs to stop looking for the perfect ball all the time but very interested to see how he fares in championship pace.
Flanagan - I think he is class. Just needs to get settled in a position.
Johnston - Obviously depends on his fitness. If not, I would go with Martin Reilly.
Cullivan - Plenty of ability. Would pull him out in stages and try to get Mackey and Jelly in space.
Mackey - Keep him in there with Johnston. Then we have two genuin threats

Obviously its close to team that has been playing but there is not much point butting in lads that aren't even on the squad. Left Sheridan out but he could easily be there ahead of McCutcheon or Brady. Just my own personal choice.

i wouldnt change much of that team,id like to see cahill play a bit further out field,but he's a solid corner back.hannon seems to be on good form and would be worth a try for the fermanagh game.id like to see gearoid in midfield but he wont be there,and i dont think theres much difference between galligan and mulvey,anyone as long as it isnt walshe.id also like to see johnston out on the 40 for a game.id nearly be inclined to give sheridan one more chance at full-back,wasnt a fan of his early on last season,but thought he looked to be getting comfortable at times.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on May 07, 2010, 11:36:29 PM
Really don't think Sheridan is a full-back Dougal. For me, wing-back is by far his best-position. Seen him play a lot with DCU this year and just think he needs to work on his game when in possession of the ball. A great athlete and a hardy buck too

Johnston I'm sure would be good on the 40 but i think it would be stupid to take him away from the goals - particularly at this stage. His best asset is his ability to win possession and fire over a point from 25 yards or so after finding that all important half a yard to get his shot away. Out on the 40 that asset goes to waste. I do think he and Nesty could easily interchange though to keep the opposing defence guesising.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on May 08, 2010, 11:03:50 PM
ACFL Division 1
Kingscourt  2-19 0-8 Killygarry 
Killeshandra  1-4 0-9 Lavey
Belturbet  1-14 0-8 Denn 
Cavan Gaels  1-14 0-8 Ballinagh   
Castlerahan  0-12 0-7 Crosserlough   
Gowna  2-12 1-10 Ramor United   
Redhills  2-14 1-11 Lacken   
Mullahoran  1-13 1-9 Cuchullains 

ACFL Reserve Division 1 

Redhills  3-8 2-13 Lacken 
Mullahoran  2-6 0-11 Cuchullains   
Belturbet  1-5 0-8 Denn 
Castlerahan  1-3 0-10 Crosserlough   
Gowna  2-5 0-10 Ramor United 

ACFL Division 2
 
Knockbride  2-9 1-9 Bailieboro   
Drung  2-5 1-9 Drumgoon   
Killinkere  1-11 1-6 Drumalee   
Shercock  1-7 2-9 Ballyhaise   
Kill  1-7 1-7 Cavan Gaels 
Cootehill Celtic 0-9 1-2 Bultersbridge

ACFL Reserve Division 2 

Knockbride  3-5 5-14 Bailieboro   
Drung  2-12 1-9 Drumgoon   
Killinkere  3-11 1-7 Drumalee   
Shercock  1-5 2-13 Ballyhaise 

ACFL Division 3
Munterconnacht  2-14 0-6 Templeport   
Laragh Utd  0-9 1-10 Cornafean 
Maghera  0-5 1-17 Swanlinbar   
Ballymachugh  3-7 0-9 Shannon Gaels   
Kildallan  2-4 1-10 Arva 
Kingscourt  0-10 0-6 Killygarry 
Corlough  2-4 1-17 Mountnugent 

ACFL Reserve Division 3 
   
Laragh Utd  0-9 2-7 Cornafean   
Kildallan  3-6 0-8 Arva   
Ballymachugh  - - Shannon Gaels  Conceded by Ballymachugh
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dougal on May 08, 2010, 11:09:40 PM
wasnt too far off with alot of my predictions. ;)

how did kingscourt beat killygarry by so much,thats a big shock,and they beat them in div 3,after not fielding a team last week.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on May 09, 2010, 12:50:47 AM
Great win for Kingscourt. They can easily get to a county final if the draw is kind to them but really don't think they would have what it takes to beat the Gaels. I'll give it to Dudely Farrelly though, he certainly has revived that club in the last two years. Done a great job.

Larry gave a master class against our boys today in the first half. We were ten points down after as many minutes.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Theobald on May 09, 2010, 04:24:19 PM
Another defeat for the shamrocks Put-it-up. Will we manage to stay up this year? Who was marking Larry, when he did the damage? Who is making the first 15 this year?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on May 09, 2010, 04:56:18 PM
It's not going too well at the moment theobald.

Larry scored four points from centre-forward on Declan O'Reilly. Game was over after ten minutes, we conceded two shocking goals.

We're missing a lot of boys from last year. Here is the two teams that started.

Knockbride: Ronan Keaskin, Ollie Mulvey, David Traynor, Declan O'Reilly, Michael Clarke, Niall O'Reilly, Seamus O'Brien, John Tierney (0-2f), Raphael Rogers (1-1), Dermot O'Brien, Larry Reilly (0-4), Liam Lynch, Peter Reilly (0-1), Niall McCabe, Adam Traynor

Bailieborough Shamrocks: Sean Farrelly, Damien Lynch, David Rooney, Gary O'Reilly, Thomas Cooney, Declan O'Reilly, Peter Clerkin, Paddy Bird (0-1), Sean Cooney, Paul Sharkey (0-2), Paul O'Reilly (0-1), Dessie Reilly (0-1), David Carolan, Niall Kelly (0-4, 2f), Jeffrey Martin
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on May 09, 2010, 07:27:48 PM
We beat Shercock yesterday evening over in East Cavan,we were minus a fair few regulars but had a strong team nonetheless.
Shercock were the best team in the first half,with Michael O Reily fielding some great ball,
2nd half saw Ray Cullivan move to midfield and he and O Reily had a great aerial battle with Cullivan coming out on top
Kevin Tierney ran riot scoring 2-3/2-4 in the second half most of it from fantastic ball in by Cullivan.
Sean McCormack was very good at Full back,Barry McCrudden was also good at MF,I was very impressed with Shercock yesterday,its hard to believe they are a junior championship team.
We are coming along bit by bit,not where we would want to be,but hopefully we will get there.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on May 11, 2010, 08:25:36 PM
So what midfield partnership do Ye think for fermanagh. Givney has to start but I  reckon galligan is best option cos we need workers in the middle. I'd like to see cullivan at wing forward and Brennan at full forward. It is within our ability to win but you never get an easy ride against fermanagh
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dougal on May 11, 2010, 09:50:48 PM
im just about going for galligan,himself and mulvey look to have improved a bit since last year,but galligans just ahead of him IMO.dont think cullivan would take either mckeever or flanagans place at wing forward,id be starting him full forward,mickey brennan is a good player,but is liable to fumble the ball quite a bit.will corr be fit for the game against fermanagh?id rather have sheridan FB,but just wondering what tommy has to work with.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on May 11, 2010, 11:09:58 PM
Quote from: Dougal on May 11, 2010, 09:50:48 PM
im just about going for galligan,himself and mulvey look to have improved a bit since last year,but galligans just ahead of him IMO.dont think cullivan would take either mckeever or flanagans place at wing forward,id be starting him full forward,mickey brennan is a good player,but is liable to fumble the ball quite a bit.will corr be fit for the game against fermanagh?id rather have sheridan FB,but just wondering what tommy has to work with.

You might get away with shierdan against Fermanagh but he's not a FB imo, last year showed me that. I think Carr needs to stick with Corr after investing so much effort in him for that position up to now and see can he step up on the big stage. Its a real worry that we don't seem to have the makings of a FB at senior level. Before anyone suggests it I don't think Dunne will make it in that position either. Its def our weak spot.
I saw Brennan in 2 games this year at FF and I thought he did well. He showed well, made intelligent runs and won good ball but he certainly didn't make good use of it all the time. But I saw potential and he has a good football brain and will lay of ball for others. Cullivan out the field gives us another option from kick outs. McKeever or Flanagan could move into the backs.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dougal on May 11, 2010, 11:30:01 PM
dunne is as good as what we have or close to it,and should improve in time,but i think he still wont make a great FB,but should be decent.mickey has shown signs of being a very good FF all league,but some constant simple little mistakes,have let him down,if he can cut them out,ill be happy to have him FF.to move mckeever or flanagan into the half backs means you have to get rid of mccutcheon brady or cahill(im guessing the wing backs will be 2 of these 3)and i dont see any need for that when cullivan is as good an option for FF as we have.but anyway,thats my 2 cents.


id imagine johnston is highly unlikely to start against fermanagh?if he isnt fit,who should take his place?id like to see bud fitz get a try.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on May 12, 2010, 02:29:57 PM
From Hoganstand.  Best of Luck lads.  The Minor team is a few years?

John O Shea and Andy Mc Govern, both from Killygarry.

BT D'Alton Cup final, Thursday 2pm, Pearse Og Armagh :

Abbey Newry v St Patrick's Cavan

In a break from the norm, Abbey and St Patrick's Cavan will serve up a novel pairing in Thursday's BT D'Alton Cup final in Pearse Og grounds Armagh.

Neither are frequent visitors to Colleges' final, although the Abbey did lift the MacRory and Hogan double a couple of seasons back and Cavan collected a Rannafast title back in 2004.

Abbey are bidding for a fifth D'Alton title, their last being in 1994, when future Down stars Michael Walsh, Ronan Sexton, Danny Hughes, Damien Rafferty and Armagh's Barry Shannon featured.

Abbey, like their opponents, have had an impressive run to the final with 5 straight victories including a quarter-final against St Michael's Enniskillen that saw their narrowest winning margin - 5 points.

In the semi final they beat Omagh 3-15 to 1-8, with 1-7 bagged by centre-forward Ryan Treanor, son of former Down star John "Shorty" Treanor.

Captain Sheagh Dobbin and his midfield partner Conor McCoy played in last year's team that reached the semi-final, but a third star of that team Killian McEvoyhas picked up an injury and misses out.

Cavan had to beat St Patrick's Maghera twice to reach this final, firstly in the group stages and then on Monday last in the semi-final when a 2-4 blast inside a five minutes' spell early in the second half closed the Derry boys out of the game.

Their run to the final is all the more significant in that they have only one age-group to chose from in comparison to two in Six County schools.

A lot could hinge on how Colin McCabe and Matthew McKenna fare in the midfield battle with Dobbin and McCoy, as both attacks appear pretty fast and accurate, provided they have enough possession.

It is an interesting final and a win for either would raise hopes of more to follow later in their school careers.

St Patrick's Cavan : Mark Fegan, Glen Brady, Jason Rahill, Declan Lunney, Cian McManus, Thomas Galligan, Paul Sexton, Colin McCabe, Matthew McKenna, Ronan O'Reilly, Ryan Connolly, Pierce Smith, Brian Sheanon, Ben Conaty, Darragh Gannon.

Substitutes: Tommy Boylan, Dominic Carney, Dylan Donohoe, Darragh Duggan, Stephen Enright, Ryan Galligan, Dillon Kiernan, Donovan McCaffrey, Aaron Reilly, Shane Smith, Pauric Sweeney.
Abbey : Aaron Campbell, John Catterson, Fergus Quinn, Thomas Looney, Cathair McKinney, Shea Gregory, Luke Byrne, Sheagh Dobbin (captain), Conor McCoy, Joe Rock, Ryan Treanor, Ruairi Campbell, Niall Rafferty, Shane Fitzpatrick, Ronan McGrath.

Subs : Cillian Burns, Gavin Fox, Steven Fegan, Ardghal McMahon, Gavin Carvill, Emmet Irwin, James Carragher, Conor Nugent, Niall Quinn, Tarlach Byrne, Caolon O'Reilly, Killian McEvoy.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BigMac on May 12, 2010, 03:54:16 PM
Despite being relegated from Division 1 of the NFL, Tyrone have been instilled by Ladbrokes as 11/8 favourites to win the Ulster SFC.

Picking the finalists might prove more profitable and should the top two seeds Monaghan and Tyrone reach the final Ladbrokes.com will pay out at 9/2.

Commenting Hayley O'Connor, spokesperson for Ladbrokes, said: "Even though they had an uninspired league you can never right off Tyrone and no doubt Mickey Harte has something up his sleeve to warrant their status as Ulster Championship favourites."

Ladbrokes.com Ulster SFC tournament winner selection odds

Tyrone - 11/8

Monaghan - 5/1

Down - 7/1

Derry - 8/1

Armagh - 9/1

Donegal - 10/1

Cavan - 14/1

Fermanagh - 18/1

Antrim - 20/1

Suprised Antrim are at 20/1. They probably wont win ulster but they would a better chance than us, Fermanagh and possibly Donegal. Who does every one think will win it? I personally think Down will be there or there abouts.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on May 12, 2010, 04:43:47 PM
Quote from: BigMac on May 12, 2010, 03:54:16 PM
Despite being relegated from Division 1 of the NFL, Tyrone have been instilled by Ladbrokes as 11/8 favourites to win the Ulster SFC.

Picking the finalists might prove more profitable and should the top two seeds Monaghan and Tyrone reach the final Ladbrokes.com will pay out at 9/2.

Commenting Hayley O'Connor, spokesperson for Ladbrokes, said: "Even though they had an uninspired league you can never right off Tyrone and no doubt Mickey Harte has something up his sleeve to warrant their status as Ulster Championship favourites."

Ladbrokes.com Ulster SFC tournament winner selection odds

Tyrone - 11/8

Monaghan - 5/1

Down - 7/1

Derry - 8/1

Armagh - 9/1

Donegal - 10/1

Cavan - 14/1

Fermanagh - 18/1

Antrim - 20/1

Suprised Antrim are at 20/1. They probably wont win ulster but they would a better chance than us, Fermanagh and possibly Donegal. Who does every one think will win it? I personally think Down will be there or there abouts.

Its a decent price on Antrim but the reasons are that they are on the strong side of the draw and playing against the favourites. Also, there has to be some questions about them now after the kicking Sligo gave them. God forgive me for saying this but If i were to look at the draw I think Monaghan will be in with a shout. Personally I don't fancy Down much, they always look like a team that melts when the going gets tough - which it will on their side of the draw.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: SamWheagle on May 13, 2010, 12:13:41 PM
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Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Babe Ruth 47 on May 13, 2010, 03:11:44 PM
Great news about the Dalton, anyone know what clubs the lads are from?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on May 13, 2010, 03:14:59 PM
Quote from: Babe Ruth 47 on May 13, 2010, 03:11:44 PM
Great news about the Dalton, anyone know what clubs the lads are from?

They won I take it?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Blue06 on May 13, 2010, 05:05:33 PM
Dalton Cup Final 
St Pats 3.09 Abbey CBS 0:04 according to Northern Sound
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on May 13, 2010, 07:11:06 PM
Quote from: Blue06 on May 13, 2010, 05:05:33 PM
Dalton Cup Final 
St Pats 3.09 Abbey CBS 0:04 according to Northern Sound

Fantastic achievement given the obvious disadvantage St Pats are at.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on May 13, 2010, 08:06:12 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on May 13, 2010, 07:11:06 PM
Quote from: Blue06 on May 13, 2010, 05:05:33 PM
Dalton Cup Final 
St Pats 3.09 Abbey CBS 0:04 according to Northern Sound

Fantastic achievement given the obvious disadvantage St Pats are at.
Excuse the ignorance but what disadvantage is that?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dougal on May 13, 2010, 08:25:07 PM
something along the lines of they could only pick from one age group whereas teams from the north can pick from two.congrats to everyone involved.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on May 13, 2010, 08:33:54 PM
BT D'Alton Cup final

St Patrick's Cavan 3-9 Abbey Newry 0-4

St Patrick's Cavan will be celebrating a first ever BT D'Alton Cup title for a while after seeing off the challenge of Abbey CBS in the final in Pearse Og grounds Armagh yesterday afternoon.

After running up big scores in the lead up to the final, defences took over and there was little to seperate the sides after 20 minutes, Cavan ahead by 0-2 to a single from Ryan Treanor.

However the Breffni boys conjured up a 21st minute goal for Ben Conaty and quickly added two Ryan Connolly points to open up a gap that Abbey struggled to close.

Cavan led by 1-5 to 0-1 at the break, but Abbey hit back on the re-start with 3 points in succession. It closed the gap, but Ryan Connolly struck a goal and this helped Cavan regain control.

Ronan O'Reilly added a third Cavan goal and substitute Donovan McCaffrey struck two points in the final 10 minutes to confirm an historic victory for St Patrick's.

St Patrick's Cavan : Mark Fegan, Glen Brady, Jason Rahill, Declan Lunney, Cian McManus, Thomas Galligan, Paul Sexton, Colin McCabe, Matthew McKenna 0-1, Ronan O'Reilly 1-2, Ryan Connolly 1-4, Pierce Smith, Brian Sheanon, Ben Conaty 1-0, Darragh Gannon.
Sub : Donovan McCaffrey 0-2 for B Sheanon.

Abbey : Aaron Campbell, John Catterson, Fergus Quinn, Thomas Looney, Cathair McKinney, Shea Gregory, Luke Byrne, Sheagh Dobbin 0-1, Conor McCoy, Joe Rock, Ryan Treanor 0-3, Ruairi Campbell, Niall Rafferty, Shane Fitzpatrick, Ronan McGrath.
Subs : Cillian Burns for N Rafferty, Gavin Fox for S Fitzpatrick, Emmet Irwin for R McGrath
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on May 13, 2010, 08:37:50 PM
delighted. not that it takes much to please me these days. still, a half decent performance from our under 21's as well would give you a small bit to be cheerful about. no reason why our seniors could not string a few wins together this summer if we take the correct attitude to things rather than going on auto pilot come the qualifiers. heres hoping
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Western Blue on May 13, 2010, 09:19:43 PM
Looking forward to going up to Belmullet on Sat evening to see how the present Cavan squad measure up to the Mayo lads in particular the midfield dual between McGarrity/O'Shea against Giveny/Galligan  or Mulvey. Also how our backline handle Aidan O'Shea and Conor Mortimer?

Could Seanie Johnston make an appearance in this game?

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on May 14, 2010, 10:47:05 AM
Well done St Pats.

I don't think we are at a disadvantage to other schools as the competition as I remember was that  Dalton was U14, Corn na Nog U15, Rannafast U16 and McRory U18 and a half.

It is brilliant that they won it this year as in other years when it was a boarding school they would have a much wider pick e.g. East Cavan (Kingscourt, Bailiboro), West Cavan (Glangevlin, Bawnboy) Lietrim and Monaghan.  So well done to all concerned.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on May 15, 2010, 09:24:06 PM
Imperial Bar A.C.F.L. Division 1 Round 6
Ramor Utd 1.06 Mullahoran 1.14
Crosserlough 0.08 Gowna 0.10
Ballinagh 2.15 Castlerahan 1.08
Lacken 0.12 Cavan Gaels 0.10
Denn 1.12 Redhills 1.09
Lavey 1.09 Belturbet 0.12
Kingscourt 1.16 Killeshandra 2.08

John Brady Insurances Ltd A.C.F.L. Division 2 Round 6
Cavan Gaels 1.11 Drung 0.08
Ballyhaise 0.14 Killinkere 0.06
Drumgoon 0.05 Shercock 0.09
Butlersbridge 0.08 Kill 2.04
Bailieboro 1.11 Cootehill 0.07
Drumlane 1.09 Knockbride 0.08

Kiernan Service Stations A.C.F.L. Division 3 Round 6
Mountnugent 0.14 Laragh Utd 1.08
Cornafean 1.15 Maghera 1.07

A.C.F.L. Reserve Division 3 Round 5
Killinkere 3.04 Swanlinbar 1.13
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on May 15, 2010, 09:27:36 PM
Quote from: Celt_Man on May 15, 2010, 09:24:06 PM
Imperial Bar A.C.F.L. Division 1 Round 6
Ramor Utd 1.06 Mullahoran 1.14
Crosserlough 0.08 Gowna 0.10
Ballinagh 2.15 Castlerahan 1.08
Lacken 0.12 Cavan Gaels 0.10
Denn 1.12 Redhills 1.09
Lavey 1.09 Belturbet 0.12
Kingscourt 1.16 Killeshandra 2.08

John Brady Insurances Ltd A.C.F.L. Division 2 Round 6
Cavan Gaels 1.11 Drung 0.08
Ballyhaise 0.14 Killinkere 0.06
Drumgoon 0.05 Shercock 0.09
Butlersbridge 0.08 Kill 2.04
Bailieboro 1.11 Cootehill 0.07
Drumlane 1.09 Knockbride 0.08

Kiernan Service Stations A.C.F.L. Division 3 Round 6
Mountnugent 0.14 Laragh Utd 1.08
Cornafean 1.15 Maghera 1.07

A.C.F.L. Reserve Division 3 Round 5
Killinkere 3.04 Swanlinbar 1.13

Ballyhaise Killinkere result is wrong
Ballyhaise 0-14 2-06 Killinkere is the correct score.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on May 15, 2010, 09:34:41 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on May 15, 2010, 09:27:36 PM
Quote from: Celt_Man on May 15, 2010, 09:24:06 PM
Imperial Bar A.C.F.L. Division 1 Round 6
Ramor Utd 1.06 Mullahoran 1.14
Crosserlough 0.08 Gowna 0.10
Ballinagh 2.15 Castlerahan 1.08
Lacken 0.12 Cavan Gaels 0.10
Denn 1.12 Redhills 1.09
Lavey 1.09 Belturbet 0.12
Kingscourt 1.16 Killeshandra 2.08

John Brady Insurances Ltd A.C.F.L. Division 2 Round 6
Cavan Gaels 1.11 Drung 0.08
Ballyhaise 0.14 Killinkere 0.06
Drumgoon 0.05 Shercock 0.09
Butlersbridge 0.08 Kill 2.04
Bailieboro 1.11 Cootehill 0.07
Drumlane 1.09 Knockbride 0.08

Kiernan Service Stations A.C.F.L. Division 3 Round 6
Mountnugent 0.14 Laragh Utd 1.08
Cornafean 1.15 Maghera 1.07

A.C.F.L. Reserve Division 3 Round 5
Killinkere 3.04 Swanlinbar 1.13

Ballyhaise Killinkere result is wrong
Ballyhaise 0-14 2-06 Killinkere is the correct score.

Aye thought that alright.  Bailieboro were 1 - 12 not 1 - 11  >:(
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Western Blue on May 16, 2010, 12:08:46 AM
Just back from wild,wet and windy Belmullet this evening. Match Result Mayo 0.11...Cavan 0.4. Never mind the result as Cavan actually played very well  and competed with a full strength Mayo side till both managers made the usual emptying  out the bench midway through the 2nd half. In particular the fullback line and half back line were as a defense unit were excellent and snuffed out the Mayo forwards.Mossy got the better of Aidan O'Shea and Martin Cahill had a great tussle with C.Mortimer.Dermot Sheridan and Paul Brady both had good games . Galligan and Cullivan were our midfielders on the evening  and worked hard. We lost because we could not handle the gale force wind with the result we were over hitting passes,kicked at least 7 wides in the first half and into the keepers hands . Out of our 4 scores one point came from play courtesy of Cian Mackey.
All in all it was a good work out for the team in terrible conditions. We were just as fit as Mayo and team work was excellent.  On the minus side  the final ball into the forward line was poor.

Fintan Reilly

Dermot Sheridan   Mossy Corr  Martin Cahill
Paul Brady          Eoin McGuigan  John McCutcheon

  CIARAN GALLIGAN......RAY CULLIVAN

D O'Dowd     Nesty Smith  Mark McKeever
Cian Mackey  Declan Mc Kiernan  Philip Brady

Flanagan was togged out but seemed to pull a muscle in the warm-up.  McKiernan went off with what looked like a hamstring  injury. Hope both will be OK for the Fermanagh game
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on May 16, 2010, 11:49:59 AM
Lads how has Phillip Brady found his way into the senior setup?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on May 17, 2010, 10:35:54 AM
I know none of the new rules were in action at our club game over the weekend.. anybody witness them?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: jimjim on May 17, 2010, 10:57:55 AM
Report from MayoNews.ie

Cavan fail to challenge Mayo


Senior football challenge
Mayo 0-13
Cavan 0-4

Mike Finnerty
Belmullet

THE MAYO senior football squad continued their preparations ahead of the upcoming Connacht championship with a facile nine point victory over a very disappointing Cavan in Saturday evening's challenge game at Belmullet GAA club's impressive, windswept, new €1.8m development.
John O'Mahony used the game to run the rule over 27 of his 30-man championship panel but will have learnt very little from a one-sided game which resembled a mediocre FBD League encounter.
Keith Higgins (rested after lining out the county hurlers earlier in the day), Trevor Mortimer (carrying a slight knock) and Alan Feeney (ankle injury) were the only Mayo players not to feature at some stage.
Tommy Carr's Cavan really failed to turn up and managed to score just one point from play in the entire 70 minutes. How they could have done with the injured Seanie Johnston, who was conspicuous by his absence, but on this evidence they have a lot of work to do before facing Fermanagh in the Ulster championship in four weeks time.
Mayo did what they had to do. Starting with ten of the side that started the National League Final against Cork, John O'Mahony used this match to give Peadar Gardiner and Tom Cunniffe run-outs for 35 minutes at numbers 5 and 6 respectively, and also took a look at Pat Harte and Billy Padden in the half-forward line.
Padden, playing on home soil, played the full 70 minutes, as did his club-mate Chris Barrett and Ger Cafferkey.
Despite playing against the crossfield wind in the first half, Mayo led at half-time by 0-6 to 0-2 as Conor Mortimer scored three frees, the very effective Enda Varley kicked two points from play, and Aidan O'Shea added another.
It took Cavan 33 minutes to register their first score, a free from Cian Mackey, and things didn't improve much for them in the second half.
Mayo built on their advantage through points from subs Andy Moran, Mark Ronaldson and Barry Moran, who again looked a real threat at full-forward after coming on to replace Aidan O'Shea.
Cavan never looked like making a game of it and Mayo indulged in some shooting practice late on as Aidan Kilcoyne fired over a free and Neil Douglas grabbed two points from play.
Kilcoyne also saw Mayo's only clear-cut goal chance well saved by Cavan goalkeeper Fintan Reilly as the game petered out. The winners also clocked up twelve wides as things got a little ragged in the closing stages.
Mayo's next challenge match comes against Dublin next Friday evening in Hollymount, and hopefully it will be a much better work-out ahead of that date with Sligo in three weeks time (June 5).

Mayo
D Clarke; C Barrett, G Cafferkey, T Howley; P Gardiner, T Cunniffe, K McLoughlin; T Parsons, S O'Shea; P Harte, BJ Padden, A Dillon; E Varley (0-2), A O'Shea (0-1), C Mortimer (0-3, 3fs).
Subs used: L O'Malley for Gardiner (ht); A Moran (0-2) for Dillon (ht); R McGarrity for Harte (ht); A Freeman for Mortimer (ht); M Ronaldson (0-1) for Varley (45 mins); B Moran (0-1) for A O'Shea (45 mins); D Vaughan for Cunniffe (45 mins); A Kilcoyne (0-1, 1f) for O'Shea (45 mins); K Conroy for McLoughlin (48 mins); N Douglas (0-2) for Freeman (48 mins, inj); S Nally for Howley (55 mins); K O'Malley for Clarke (55 mins); K McLoughlin for O'Malley (inj).


Cavan
F Reilly; D Sheridan, T Corr, M Cahill; P Brady, E McGuigan, J McCutcheon; C Galligan, R Cullivan; D O'Dowd, G Smith, M McKeever; C Mackey (0-3, 2fs), D McKiernan, P Brady.
Subs used: A Clarke for O'Dowd; R Galligan (0-1, 1f) for P Brady; M Johnston for McCutcheon; N Walsh for Cullivan; M Brides for P Brady; M Hannon for McKeever; E Smith for Corr.

Referee: D Hunt (Roscommon)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on May 17, 2010, 11:51:13 AM
Quote from: put-it-up on May 17, 2010, 10:35:54 AM
I know none of the new rules were in action at our club game over the weekend.. anybody witness them?
I thought it was amazing that Packie Smith just decided to not play the new rules as in his own words he hadn't had a chance to look at them yet!!!  Wouldn't mind we then missed a penalty from 13m in the first minute >:( >:(
Then the fooker was in a hurry to get away and only played a minute of injury time in the second half... I could have flatten him >:(
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on May 17, 2010, 12:08:26 PM
Quote from: Celt_Man on May 17, 2010, 11:51:13 AM
Quote from: put-it-up on May 17, 2010, 10:35:54 AM
I know none of the new rules were in action at our club game over the weekend.. anybody witness them?
I thought it was amazing that Packie Smith just decided to not play the new rules as in his own words he hadn't had a chance to look at them yet!!!  Wouldn't mind we then missed a penalty from 13m in the first minute >:( >:(
Then the fooker was in a hurry to get away and only played a minute of injury time in the second half... I could have flatten him >:(

Haha, poor Packie hadn't a clue what was goin on. You didn't get a penatly did you CM?

I think these new rules will cause a bit of bother locally. Like imagine the uproar when a goal is disallowed for being an old style fist pass! I would say a few Ballinagh fans could potentially get angry at a ref ;) Most refs will just play away I would say
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on May 17, 2010, 12:24:39 PM
Quote from: put-it-up on May 17, 2010, 12:08:26 PM
Quote from: Celt_Man on May 17, 2010, 11:51:13 AM
Quote from: put-it-up on May 17, 2010, 10:35:54 AM
I know none of the new rules were in action at our club game over the weekend.. anybody witness them?
I thought it was amazing that Packie Smith just decided to not play the new rules as in his own words he hadn't had a chance to look at them yet!!!  Wouldn't mind we then missed a penalty from 13m in the first minute >:( >:(
Then the fooker was in a hurry to get away and only played a minute of injury time in the second half... I could have flatten him >:(

Haha, poor Packie hadn't a clue what was goin on. You didn't get a penatly did you CM?

I think these new rules will cause a bit of bother locally. Like imagine the uproar when a goal is disallowed for being an old style fist pass! I would say a few Ballinagh fans could potentially get angry at a ref ;) Most refs will just play away I would say
Aye we got a penalty after 40 seconds or so but have it saved and somehow managed to miss the rebound too... That really came back to haunt us
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on May 17, 2010, 12:51:52 PM
Was this in the game against Bboro CM>>>Have I lost my marbles??
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on May 17, 2010, 01:32:29 PM
Quote from: put-it-up on May 17, 2010, 12:51:52 PM
Was this in the game against Bboro CM>>>Have I lost my marbles??
Aye the junior game yesterday - should have said that first!!

I've nothing to say about the senior game...
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on May 17, 2010, 04:49:15 PM
The Dalton Cup team from Hoganstand and where they are from.  All Cavan bar one so hopefully the minors is a few years should be good.

Team that started:
Mark Fegan-Denn Glen Brady-Mullahorn Jason Rahill-Baileboro Declan Lunney-Drumlane Cian McManus-Teemore,Fermanagh Thomas Galligan-Lacken Paul Sexton-Cavan Gaels Colin McCabe-Ballinagh Matthew McKenna-Killygarry Pierce Smith-Crosserlough Ryan Connolly-Drumlane Ronan O'Reilly-Ballinagh Brian Sheanon-Killygarry Ben Conaty-Denn Darragh Gannon-Killygarry
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dougal on May 18, 2010, 11:13:41 AM
dont know if it was already mentioned here,or if any of ye heard,that the league final was back on this weekend,with the winner taking the 2009 league title and 2 points in this years league.that was the plan,but the gaels have put in an objection so it has been cancelled once again.when is this farce going to end?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on May 18, 2010, 01:19:45 PM
Jaysus that is a clusterfuck and a half...

Now I see there are a full set of double header fixtures going ahead the day after Cavan play Fermanagh in the championship... Juniors at 4.30 and Seniors at 6.  Anyone else think that is a bit much?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on May 18, 2010, 11:19:12 PM
Why did we start the league so late? It was stupid..Dublin and Meath have their championship up and running FFS
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on May 19, 2010, 11:52:30 AM
Quote from: put-it-up on May 18, 2010, 11:19:12 PM
Why did we start the league so late? It was stupid..Dublin and Meath have their championship up and running FFS

Yea I get what you're saying but the Meath championship is a balls... one game at the end of April, another in May they might sneak another couple in during June and July and usually finish off the group stages in August....  That is a balls
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on May 19, 2010, 12:19:27 PM
Tonight's Games......


Wednesday, 19th May 2010 @ 8pm
A.C.F.L. Division 1
Denn v Killygarry
Kingscourt v Ballinagh
Belturbet v Ramor Utd
Redhills v Cuchulainn
Cavan Gaels v Mullahoran
Lavey v Lacken


Wednesday, 19th May 2010 @ 8pm
A.C.F.L. Division 2
Cootehill v Drumalee
Drung v Shercock
Drumlane v Drumgoon


Wednesday, 19th May 2010 @ 8pm
A.C.F.L. Reserve Division 3
Shannon Gaels v Killeshandra

Munterconnacht v Ballyhaise


Not a word out of Boojangles this last while.... He must be waiting for me in the long grass...



Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on May 19, 2010, 12:57:56 PM
Quote from: Celt_Man on May 19, 2010, 12:19:27 PM
Tonight's Games......


Wednesday, 19th May 2010 @ 8pm
A.C.F.L. Division 1
Denn v Killygarry
Kingscourt v Ballinagh
Belturbet v Ramor Utd
Redhills v Cuchulainn
Cavan Gaels v Mullahoran
Lavey v Lacken


Wednesday, 19th May 2010 @ 8pm
A.C.F.L. Division 2
Cootehill v Drumalee
Drung v Shercock
Drumlane v Drumgoon


Wednesday, 19th May 2010 @ 8pm
A.C.F.L. Reserve Division 3
Shannon Gaels v Killeshandra

Munterconnacht v Ballyhaise


Not a word out of Boojangles this last while.... He must be waiting for me in the long grass...

He's smoking a few splifs to calm himself down if threads elsewhere are anything to go by :D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on May 19, 2010, 01:25:51 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on May 19, 2010, 12:57:56 PM
Quote from: Celt_Man on May 19, 2010, 12:19:27 PM
Tonight's Games......


Wednesday, 19th May 2010 @ 8pm
A.C.F.L. Division 1
Denn v Killygarry
Kingscourt v Ballinagh
Belturbet v Ramor Utd
Redhills v Cuchulainn
Cavan Gaels v Mullahoran
Lavey v Lacken


Wednesday, 19th May 2010 @ 8pm
A.C.F.L. Division 2
Cootehill v Drumalee
Drung v Shercock
Drumlane v Drumgoon


Wednesday, 19th May 2010 @ 8pm
A.C.F.L. Reserve Division 3
Shannon Gaels v Killeshandra

Munterconnacht v Ballyhaise


Not a word out of Boojangles this last while.... He must be waiting for me in the long grass...

He's smoking a few splifs to calm himself down if threads elsewhere are anything to go by :D
pintsofguinness would drive anyone towards substance abuse.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on May 19, 2010, 02:56:32 PM
I know but feck me, we should have alot more of the league played off by now. I'd start it first weekend in March - we would be four games on! Its gona be some sham trying to finish the league up this year!

And am i right in saying their is no relegation from Division Two league this year? Was told that last week
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on May 19, 2010, 04:18:29 PM
our senior and Reserve Division 2 teams have 6/12 league games played
Division 3 reserve 5/15.
I dont think its going too bad PIU.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on May 19, 2010, 05:33:17 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on May 19, 2010, 04:18:29 PM
our senior and Reserve Division 2 teams have 6/12 league games played
Division 3 reserve 5/15.
I dont think its going too bad PIU.

Ah I know it could be worse, but Division One would be my main concern with the extra games and that. Personally I would prefer the league be played off before the championship started but thats just me. Then once your out of the championship, you have a few months off and there is no arsing about playing games with no purpose!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on May 19, 2010, 06:30:26 PM
That's the perfect scenario PIU and it is Division 1 where the big concern is. I thought the idea was to get the league out of the way first but that certainly won't be the case.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on May 19, 2010, 06:43:43 PM
Quote from: Lawrence of Knockbride on May 19, 2010, 06:30:26 PM
That's the perfect scenario PIU and it is Division 1 where the big concern is. I thought the idea was to get the league out of the way first but that certainly won't be the case.

Obviously that was not ever the plan though if we did'st start until April you know?

We're gona end up with pointless games being played in November again I think
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Western Blue on May 19, 2010, 07:17:49 PM
Lads, Any news after the Mayo match back home,we got a bad local press this week down here  .ie showed no interest in the game a useless exercise for John O'Mahony's team !! I though we competed well in the 1st half in what was terrible conditions for both team.
Read Seanie Johnston  article  re his injury update..not looking good for the Fermanagh game.
No sign of Givney or Mulvey last weekend. Are they in trouble too.
Givney looked to have taken a  crunching knock to his back against Dublin and  Mc Kiernan looked in serious pain going off at half-time against Mayo.
We need them all fit fairly quickly.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on May 19, 2010, 08:28:42 PM
Quote from: Western Blue on May 19, 2010, 07:17:49 PM
Lads, Any news after the Mayo match back home,we got a bad local press this week down here  .ie showed no interest in the game a useless exercise for John O'Mahony's team !! I though we competed well in the 1st half in what was terrible conditions for both team.
Read Seanie Johnston  article  re his injury update..not looking good for the Fermanagh game.
No sign of Givney or Mulvey last weekend. Are they in trouble too.
Givney looked to have taken a  crunching knock to his back against Dublin and  Mc Kiernan looked in serious pain going off at half-time against Mayo.
We need them all fit fairly quickly.

I wouldn't mind the mayo press, win 1 game and they will be tipping them for Sam. 6 2 down at half time is a lot when u have the wind though. Are u sure you were at the same match
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Western Blue on May 19, 2010, 08:45:20 PM
I was there allright.take your point half time score line..but if we had kicked over 7 points instead of the wides and at least 4/5 more in to the goalies hand we might have been in the lead!!

Our lads were not used to playing football at High Altitude  and playing with and against a North Atlantic wind. !! Did I not list the team later that evening. I WAS THERE .
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on May 19, 2010, 08:52:10 PM
Quote from: Western Blue on May 19, 2010, 08:45:20 PM
I was there allright.take your point half time score line..but if we had kicked over 7 points instead of the wides and at least 4/5 more in to the goalies hand we might have been in the lead!!

Our lads were not used to playing football at High Altitude  and playing with and against a North Atlantic wind. !! Did I not list the team later that evening. I WAS THERE .

I know you were there, was only joking cos your report and the Mayo papers report were "slightly" different.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on May 19, 2010, 11:43:51 PM
Tonights Results

ACFL Division 1

Denn  0-5 0-6 Killygarry   
Lavey  0-10 3-10 Lacken   
Kingscourt  3-12 1-9 Ballinagh   
Belturbet  0-12 0-9 Ramor United 
Redhills  1-14 2-15 Cuchullains   
Cavan Gaels  2-12 1-9 Mullahoran 

ACFL Division 2

Drumlane  0-8 0-7 Drumgoon   
Cootehill  0-9 1-2 Drumalee   
Drung  1-7 0-10 Shercock   

ACFL Reserve Division 3 

Shannon Gaels  3-11 0-11 Killeshandra   
Munterconnacht  1-9 0-12 Ballyhaise 
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on May 20, 2010, 12:01:14 AM
Quote from: Western Blue on May 19, 2010, 08:45:20 PM
I was there allright.take your point half time score line..but if we had kicked over 7 points instead of the wides and at least 4/5 more in to the goalies hand we might have been in the lead!!

Our lads were not used to playing football at High Altitude  and playing with and against a North Atlantic wind. !! Did I not list the team later that evening. I WAS THERE .

Meant to take you up on that before WB! Although I have to say, the Mayo journalist probably wasn't all that bothered about the Cavan performance and the lazy option was just to say we were crap cos we didn't score. In fairness, we sounded pretty crap though  ;D

Still don't understand where Philip Brady came from? Can anyone enlighten me?

I wouldn't be too fussed about what Seanie says either. I think when push comes to shove he will be there, and I hope he is, but he is just making supporters sweat so he can become the focal point of the media in the build up to the game because let's be honest the media don't have all that much to talk about with regards to this affair! ;D

Givney has a slight hamstring problem but am told he will be fine. I don't think McKiernan would be starting either - although he is a good option from the bench due to his size.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on May 20, 2010, 11:13:54 AM
How about having Johnson as an impact sub? 

Settle on a starting forward line and use Johnson if needed.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: whats my name on May 20, 2010, 11:33:33 AM
the reason givney wasnt playing against mayo was he was knocked out the night before in the division 3 game against laragh
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on May 20, 2010, 01:40:03 PM
PIU I'd say McKiernan has as good a chance as anyone of starting at full-forward. No idea on Philip Brady either, maybe he's been playing well for Mullahoran who've made a good start. I see that all the fixtures this weekend are from week 14 of the league rather than week 7 to facilitate the "double-header" Gaels v Castlerathan game. Dare we hope for a draw just so we can see what the county board decide?
My guess is that Carr will want to start Johnston against Fermanagh but he might get some resistance which will be interesting. With that in mind and as we're a little closer to the day here's my guess at the starting 15.
1. Fintan
2. McPhilips
3. Corr.
4. Cahill
5. McCutheon
6. McGuigan
7. Sheridan
8. Walsh
9. Givney
10. McKeever
11. Nesty
12 Flanagan
13. Mackey
14 McKiernan
15. Cullivan

Personally I'd put McKeever wing-back in place of Sheridan, Cullivan wing-forward and go with Johnston in the corner and I'd also have Galligan in for Walsh but I think he'll go with this line-up with th option of Cullivan coming deeper if needed.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: sams the aim on May 20, 2010, 04:24:28 PM
Why wud tommy Carr get met with resistance to start Seanie Johnston, surely everyone involved would want him playing if he was anyway fit???That makes no sense, he had a bad injury and continued training from what other members of panel have said dont understand why there would be resistance
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dougal on May 20, 2010, 04:35:11 PM
Quote from: sams the aim on May 20, 2010, 04:24:28 PM
Why wud tommy Carr get met with resistance to start Seanie Johnston, surely everyone involved would want him playing if he was anyway fit???That makes no sense, he had a bad injury and continued training from what other members of panel have said dont understand why there would be resistance

he sounds like he doesnt think hes fit,he said tommy reckons it's 50/50,but he doesnt think that.he was saying that he talked to stevie o neill,who had a similar injury,only not a serious as his,and hes not long back training,despite it happening a few weeks before johnsons.he sounds doubtful,but knows tommy will be pushing to have him playing.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on May 20, 2010, 04:53:45 PM
Quote from: Dougal on May 20, 2010, 04:35:11 PM
Quote from: sams the aim on May 20, 2010, 04:24:28 PM
Why wud tommy Carr get met with resistance to start Seanie Johnston, surely everyone involved would want him playing if he was anyway fit???That makes no sense, he had a bad injury and continued training from what other members of panel have said dont understand why there would be resistance

he sounds like he doesnt think hes fit,he said tommy reckons it's 50/50,but he doesnt think that.he was saying that he talked to stevie o neill,who had a similar injury,only not a serious as his,and hes not long back training,despite it happening a few weeks before johnsons.he sounds doubtful,but knows tommy will be pushing to have him playing.

Two words could sum up a lot - Mind Games!!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on May 20, 2010, 05:45:25 PM
Quote from: sams the aim on May 20, 2010, 04:24:28 PM
Why wud tommy Carr get met with resistance to start Seanie Johnston, surely everyone involved would want him playing if he was anyway fit???That makes no sense, he had a bad injury and continued training from what other members of panel have said dont understand why there would be resistance
I meant from Seanie himself.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on May 20, 2010, 09:27:24 PM
Imperial Bar ACFL Division 1
Team   P   W   L   D   P+   P-   P+/-   Pts
Kingscourt    6   6   0   0   123   67   56   12
Cavan Gaels    6   5   1   0   107   55   52   10
Mullahoran    6   5   1   0   85   68   17   10
Killeshandra    6   4   2   0   78   72   6   8
Killygarry    6   4   2   0   61   63   -2   8
Castlerahan    6   4   2   0   67   70   -3   8
Belturbet    6   3   2   1   64   56   8   7
Ballinagh    6   3   3   0   86   81   5   6
Lacken    6   3   3   0   78   74   4   6
Redhills    6   3   3   0   93   92   1   6
Lavey    6   2   3   1   63   81   -18   5
Gowna    6   2   4   0   61   69   -8   4
Cuchullains    6   2   4   0   75   85   -10   4
Denn    6   1   5   0   54   87   -33   2
Crosserlough    6   0   6   0   49   86   -37   0
Ramor United    6   0   6   0   57   95   -38   0

League table for ACFL Reserve Division 1
Team   P   W   L   D   P+   P-   P+/-   Pts
Crosserlough    4   3   0   1   56   33   23   7
Gowna    5   3   1   1   56   50   6   7
Mullahoran    4   3   1   0   62   42   20   6
Ramor United    5   3   2   0   70   63   7   6
Denn    3   2   0   1   8   8   0   5
Belturbet    5   2   2   1   44   66   -22   5
Ballinagh    3   2   1   0   69   34   35   4
Castlerahan    6   2   4   0   66   91   -25   4
Lavey    3   1   2   0   21   20   1   2
Lacken    2   1   1   0   27   27   0   2
Redhills    6   1   5   0   70   103   -33   2
Cuchullains    4   0   4   0   42   54   -12   0

John Brady Insurances Ltd ACFL Division 2
Team   P   W   L   D   P+   P-   P+/-   Pts
Ballyhaise    6   5   1   0   82   49   33   10
Drumlane    5   5   0   0   66   49   17   10
Knockbride    6   4   2   0   86   73   13   8
Cootehill    6   4   2   0   58   54   4   8
Killinkere    5   2   1   2   63   57   6   6
Drumgoon    6   3   3   0   53   58   -5   6
Cavan Gaels    6   2   3   1   71   72   -1   5
Bailieboro    5   2   3   0   66   62   4   4
Drumalee    4   2   2   0   44   42   2   4
Shercock    4   1   1   2   43   44   -1   4
Kill    6   1   3   2   51   71   -20   4
Drung    6   0   5   1   54   76   -22   1
Butlersbridge    5   0   5   0   48   78   -30   0

League table for ACFL Reserve Division 2
Team   P   W   L   D   P+   P-   P+/-   Pts
Ballyhaise    6   5   0   1   89   40   49   11
Bailieboro    4   3   1   0   68   50   18   6
Butlersbridge    4   3   1   0   59   44   15   6
Shercock    4   3   1   0   44   43   1   6
Drumalee    4   2   1   1   56   45   11   5
Drung    5   2   2   1   53   56   -3   5
Killinkere    5   2   3   0   65   58   7   4
Drumgoon    6   2   4   0   77   82   -5   4
Cootehill    4   1   2   1   43   44   -1   3
Drumlane    4   1   3   0   50   54   -4   2
Kill    5   1   4   0   38   63   -25   2
Knockbride    5   1   4   0   51   114   -63   2

Kiernan Service Stations ACFL Division 3
Team   P   W   L   D   P+   P-   P+/-   Pts
Arva    6   6   0   0   87   65   22   12
Swanlinbar    6   5   1   0   120   57   63   10
Shannon Gaels    6   5   1   0   101   77   24   10
Cornafean    6   4   2   0   86   55   31   8
Munterconnacht    6   3   2   1   87   76   11   7
Mountnugent    5   3   1   1   58   48   10   7
Kildallan    6   3   2   1   82   78   4   7
Killygarry    6   2   3   1   61   69   -8   5
Ballymachugh    6   2   4   0   70   73   -3   4
Kingscourt    6   2   4   0   53   86   -33   4
Laragh Utd    6   1   4   1   72   81   -9   3
Templeport    5   1   3   1   50   66   -16   3
Corlough    6   1   5   0   71   105   -34   2
Maghera    6   0   6   0   40   102   -62   0

League table for ACFL Reserve Division 3
Team   P   W   L   D   P+   P-   P+/-   Pts
Cornafean    6   5   0   1   101   55   46   11
Laragh Utd    6   4   1   1   87   73   14   9
Ballyhaise    6   3   1   2   95   68   27   8
Swanlinbar    6   4   2   0   76   65   11   8
Shannon Gaels    5   2   1   2   67   56   11   6
Killeshandra    5   3   2   0   72   65   7   6
Killygarry    6   2   2   2   91   84   7   6
Kildallan    5   3   2   0   62   59   3   6
Mullahoran    5   2   2   1   84   77   7   5
Templeport    5   2   2   1   63   58   5   5
Killinkere    6   2   3   1   48   88   -40   5
Mountnugent    5   1   2   2   61   65   -4   4
Arva    5   2   3   0   44   55   -11   4
Munterconnacht    6   1   4   1   65   110   -45   3
Ballymachugh    5   0   5   0   6   24   -18   0
Bailieboro    4   0   4   0   47   67   -20   0
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: sams the aim on May 20, 2010, 09:42:07 PM
god im sure if given the chance any player would jump at the chance to play
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dougal on May 20, 2010, 09:52:39 PM
if you thought by playing you could cause more damage and end up missing the next couple of games would you chance it?only a couple of weeks ago he was walking round with his arm bent the whole time,didnt look like a lad that would be fit for the fermanagh game.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on May 20, 2010, 10:30:13 PM
If there was any risk , I would sit on the bench and only come on if needed. That way another solid two weeks trainin could be got under the belt before the next day. I would imagine TC will want him out there though with his job on the line!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: sams the aim on May 21, 2010, 03:24:54 PM
and everyone involved who wants to see cavan win. Matbe celt man was right with mind games. Im sure all inter county players wud want to play if there was even the slightest chance they could
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on May 21, 2010, 03:59:36 PM
Quote from: sams the aim on May 21, 2010, 03:24:54 PM
and everyone involved who wants to see cavan win. Matbe celt man was right with mind games. Im sure all inter county players wud want to play if there was even the slightest chance they could
Wouldn't that be wonderul? You a Cavan man STA? There's quite a few inter-county players in the county that haven't wanted to play the last few years.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on May 21, 2010, 05:04:53 PM
I think Sam's the Aim is a Cavan man alright. I also think what he might have meant was that if you have committed to the panel you'd be keen to play in the championship. No doubt we have any amount of lads who will not committ to the panel for whatever reason, most counties have that to a greater or lesser degree. We seem to have a few from our current regular county champions who cannot/will not make the committment but perhaps I should not venture back towards that issue.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on May 21, 2010, 05:57:31 PM
Quote from: anglocelt39 on May 21, 2010, 05:04:53 PM
I think Sam's the Aim is a Cavan man alright. I also think what he might have meant was that if you have committed to the panel you'd be keen to play in the championship. No doubt we have any amount of lads who will not committ to the panel for whatever reason, most counties have that to a greater or lesser degree. We seem to have a few from our current regular county champions who cannot/will not make the committment but perhaps I should not venture back towards that issue.

Jaysus ac39, leave that can of worms closed. No point opening it now - were a few weeks from championship and TC has what he has. No let's just see if he can make the most of it!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on May 21, 2010, 06:14:33 PM
Quote from: put-it-up on May 21, 2010, 05:57:31 PM
Quote from: anglocelt39 on May 21, 2010, 05:04:53 PM
I think Sam's the Aim is a Cavan man alright. I also think what he might have meant was that if you have committed to the panel you'd be keen to play in the championship. No doubt we have any amount of lads who will not committ to the panel for whatever reason, most counties have that to a greater or lesser degree. We seem to have a few from our current regular county champions who cannot/will not make the committment but perhaps I should not venture back towards that issue.

Jaysus ac39, leave that can of worms closed. No point opening it now - were a few weeks from championship and TC has what he has. No let's just see if he can make the most of it!


Agreed although in fairness both Phil and Paul the Gunner have come in with fairly late runs, was Phil the lad who was involved with the "Underdogs" on TG4, must have been the guts of 5 years ago now?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on May 21, 2010, 06:23:35 PM
Quote from: anglocelt39 on May 21, 2010, 06:14:33 PM
Quote from: put-it-up on May 21, 2010, 05:57:31 PM
Quote from: anglocelt39 on May 21, 2010, 05:04:53 PM
I think Sam's the Aim is a Cavan man alright. I also think what he might have meant was that if you have committed to the panel you'd be keen to play in the championship. No doubt we have any amount of lads who will not committ to the panel for whatever reason, most counties have that to a greater or lesser degree. We seem to have a few from our current regular county champions who cannot/will not make the committment but perhaps I should not venture back towards that issue.

Jaysus ac39, leave that can of worms closed. No point opening it now - were a few weeks from championship and TC has what he has. No let's just see if he can make the most of it!


Agreed although in fairness both Phil and Paul the Gunner have come in with fairly late runs, was Phil the lad who was involved with the "Underdogs" on TG4, must have been the guts of 5 years ago now?

Well Paul is an exception considering the commitment he has given over the years and you know he is coming in in fairly good shape. Philip I think did feature on the underdogs alright - still dont think he is everywhere near up to IC standard! Was he on the county hurlers too?

It's some evenin for a bit of ball  ;D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on May 21, 2010, 06:36:53 PM
Up against Kill tonight PIU? Good win last weekend, needed as well
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on May 21, 2010, 06:39:20 PM
Quote from: anglocelt39 on May 21, 2010, 06:36:53 PM
Up against Kill tonight PIU? Good win last weekend, needed as well

No thats 2moro night. The GAA decided they needed a glamour tie to stop the Champions League final stealing the limelight, so they have sent us to the Galatasaray of Cavan football  ;D

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on May 22, 2010, 10:03:56 AM
Anyone able to confirm or otherwise that the Gaels v Castlerathan game is now only for this year's points as per the recent post in Hoganstand?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dougal on May 22, 2010, 11:57:25 AM
gaelic life has a piece on it,and as far as their concerned its only for this years league.i work with a club secretary and he says as far as he knows it's off aswell.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on May 22, 2010, 12:28:39 PM
An hour and a half til throw-in. What's the odds in the story changing again? ::)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on May 22, 2010, 01:35:59 PM
Quote from: Lawrence of Knockbride on May 22, 2010, 12:28:39 PM
An hour and a half til throw-in. What's the odds in the story changing again? ::)

Or after the fact!!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on May 22, 2010, 01:43:44 PM
Quote from: Celt_Man on May 22, 2010, 01:35:59 PM
Quote from: Lawrence of Knockbride on May 22, 2010, 12:28:39 PM
An hour and a half til throw-in. What's the odds in the story changing again? ::)

Or after the fact!!

Do u actually care at this stage?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on May 22, 2010, 03:45:16 PM
Quote from: put-it-up on May 22, 2010, 01:43:44 PM
Quote from: Celt_Man on May 22, 2010, 01:35:59 PM
Quote from: Lawrence of Knockbride on May 22, 2010, 12:28:39 PM
An hour and a half til throw-in. What's the odds in the story changing again? ::)

Or after the fact!!

Do u actually care at this stage?

Sure its the Gaels PIU,none of us cared at any stage  ;D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on May 22, 2010, 04:13:30 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on May 22, 2010, 03:45:16 PM
Quote from: put-it-up on May 22, 2010, 01:43:44 PM
Quote from: Celt_Man on May 22, 2010, 01:35:59 PM
Quote from: Lawrence of Knockbride on May 22, 2010, 12:28:39 PM
An hour and a half til throw-in. What's the odds in the story changing again? ::)

Or after the fact!!

Do u actually care at this stage?

Sure its the Gaels PIU,none of us cared at any stage  ;D
;D i meant it is the 2009 league - who actually cares? put Maghera's name down in the record books. nobody would notice!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on May 22, 2010, 11:40:25 PM
ACFL Division 1
 
Killeshandra  1-10 0-13 Cuchullains 
Killygarry  1-7 1-8 Lacken 
Denn  0-3 5-20 Ballinagh   
Lavey  2-9 2-10 Crosserlough   
Kingscourt  0-19 1-13 Ramor United 
Belturbet  0-8 1-10 Mullahoran   
Redhills  1-11 1-15 Gowna 

ACFL Reserve Division 1 

Redhills  - - Gowna  Conceded by Redhills 
Denn  1-4 4-12 Ballinagh 
Lavey  0-8 2-10 Crosserlough
Belturbet  1-6 1-8 Mullahoran 

ACFL Division 2

Cootehill  1-4 2-11 Drumlane   
Kill  1-9 1-8 Bailieboro 
Drung  1-10 1-13 Butlersbridge   
Killinkere  0-7 1-11 Drumgoon   
Shercock  1-8 0-11 Cavan Gaels 
 
ACFL Reserve Division 2 

Cootehill  2-11 1-9 Drumlane 
Kill  0-1 1-13 Bailieboro   
Drung  1-13 0-8 Butlersbridge   
Killinkere  1-8 3-7 Drumgoon 

ACFL Division 3

Corlough  2-9 3-16 Munterconnacht   
Maghera  1-6 1-9 Mountnugent   
Ballymachugh  1-5 0-11 Cornafean   
Kildallan  1-9 1-13 Swanlinbar   
Laragh Utd  4-17 2-4 Killygarry 
Kingscourt  0-11 1-8 Templeport 

ACFL Reserve Division 3 

Killeshandra  1-12 3-6 Ballyhaise   
Kildallan  0-9 0-8 Swanlinbar 
Ballymachugh  - - Cornafean   Conceded by Ballymachugh
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on May 23, 2010, 12:39:30 PM
a few shockers there,
Is that Denn Ballinagh score correct?  :o
Drumlane beating Cootehill  :o and by 10 points,Cootehill are the most promising intermediate team over the last few years for me,but they seem to be faltering,losing league games you wouldnt expect them to.
Kill beating Baileboro.  :o

Dougal/Myles, was over watching your 2nds against our thirds yesterday in Ballinagh,
You've some good young footballers there.
Adie Burns isnt a bad player to have on a junior team.
Young David Doherty at CHB is a good player aswell.
Were you playing Dougal?  ;)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dougal on May 23, 2010, 01:54:39 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on May 23, 2010, 12:39:30 PM
a few shockers there,
Is that Denn Ballinagh score correct?  :o
Drumlane beating Cootehill  :o and by 10 points,Cootehill are the most promising intermediate team over the last few years for me,but they seem to be faltering,losing league games you wouldnt expect them to.
Kill beating Baileboro.  :o

Dougal/Myles, was over watching your 2nds against our thirds yesterday in Ballinagh,
You've some good young footballers there.
Adie Burns isnt a bad player to have on a junior team.
Young David Doherty at CHB is a good player aswell.
Were you playing Dougal?  ;)

unfortunately i couldnt make either game,got a call at 5 o clock to play a gig in navan at 7.my brother was at both and said that we had a very poor b team out,we had a lad starting corner forward that cant make the minor team,the manager had to play aswell,addie burns is still injured as far as i know,and he said that he still cant kick off his right foot.doherty is a great player,but has a woeful kick on him,when hes going for a score the ball just goes straight in the direction hes running.i might make a return before the end of the season,but il not be making any promises. ;)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on May 23, 2010, 05:56:42 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on May 23, 2010, 12:39:30 PM
a few shockers there,
Is that Denn Ballinagh score correct?  :o
Drumlane beating Cootehill  :o and by 10 points,Cootehill are the most promising intermediate team over the last few years for me,but they seem to be faltering,losing league games you wouldnt expect them to.
Kill beating Baileboro.  :o

Dougal/Myles, was over watching your 2nds against our thirds yesterday in Ballinagh,
You've some good young footballers there.
Adie Burns isnt a bad player to have on a junior team.
Young David Doherty at CHB is a good player aswell.
Were you playing Dougal?  ;)

Yea we were only down by a point at half time 4 points to 3 and we left 2 goals behind us in the first half too.
Then McCutcheon went off injured 30 seconds into the second half and we fell apart, they got in for 2 quick goals and that was that really...
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on May 24, 2010, 03:32:10 PM
Results from sunday.

ACFL Division 1

Cavan Gaels  2-11 0-11 Castlerahan  Cavan Gaels

ACFL Division 2 Reserve

Drumalee  0-5 1-18 Ballyhaise  Drumalee Round 7 
ACFL Division 2 
 
Drumalee  1-13 6-16 Ballyhaise  Drumalee Round 7 

ACFL Reserve Division 3 

Mullahoran  3-11 2-13 Templeport  Mullahoran Round 7 
Bailieboro  3-7 1-4 Munterconnacht  Bailieboro Round 7 
Killinkere  2-8 0-10 Mountnugent  Killinkere Round 7 
Laragh Utd  2-15 0-11 Killygarry  Laragh Utd Round 7

Im sure il be asked about the game,so il go ahead and give my two cents.
Kevin Tierney finished with 5-7 i think it was.
We scored 4 goals in a quick 10/15 minute period which ended the game as a contest in the first half.
I wouldnt read too much into it,Its just one of those fluke results which occur from time to time.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on May 24, 2010, 11:21:18 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on May 24, 2010, 03:32:10 PM
Results from sunday.

ACFL Division 1

Cavan Gaels  2-11 0-11 Castlerahan  Cavan Gaels

ACFL Division 2 Reserve

Drumalee  0-5 1-18 Ballyhaise  Drumalee Round 7 
ACFL Division 2 
 
Drumalee  1-13 6-16 Ballyhaise  Drumalee Round 7 

ACFL Reserve Division 3 

Mullahoran  3-11 2-13 Templeport  Mullahoran Round 7 
Bailieboro  3-7 1-4 Munterconnacht  Bailieboro Round 7 
Killinkere  2-8 0-10 Mountnugent  Killinkere Round 7 
Laragh Utd  2-15 0-11 Killygarry  Laragh Utd Round 7

Im sure il be asked about the game,so il go ahead and give my two cents.
Kevin Tierney finished with 5-7 i think it was.
We scored 4 goals in a quick 10/15 minute period which ended the game as a contest in the first half.
I wouldnt read too much into it,Its just one of those fluke results which occur from time to time.
Jaysus... and I'll leave it at that!

Did anyone hear anything about this Leinster Junior Championship next week?  I haven't heard so much as a single word about it... low key aproach and build up so  ::) ::)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on May 24, 2010, 11:38:10 PM
Quote from: Celt_Man on May 24, 2010, 11:21:18 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on May 24, 2010, 03:32:10 PM
Results from sunday.

ACFL Division 1

Cavan Gaels  2-11 0-11 Castlerahan  Cavan Gaels

ACFL Division 2 Reserve

Drumalee  0-5 1-18 Ballyhaise  Drumalee Round 7 
ACFL Division 2 
 
Drumalee  1-13 6-16 Ballyhaise  Drumalee Round 7 

ACFL Reserve Division 3 

Mullahoran  3-11 2-13 Templeport  Mullahoran Round 7 
Bailieboro  3-7 1-4 Munterconnacht  Bailieboro Round 7 
Killinkere  2-8 0-10 Mountnugent  Killinkere Round 7 
Laragh Utd  2-15 0-11 Killygarry  Laragh Utd Round 7

Im sure il be asked about the game,so il go ahead and give my two cents.
Kevin Tierney finished with 5-7 i think it was.
We scored 4 goals in a quick 10/15 minute period which ended the game as a contest in the first half.
I wouldnt read too much into it,Its just one of those fluke results which occur from time to time.
Jaysus... and I'll leave it at that!

Did anyone hear anything about this Leinster Junior Championship next week?  I haven't heard so much as a single word about it... low key aproach and build up so  ::) ::)

Yep,dont even know the panel for it,anyone care to fill us in?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on May 25, 2010, 09:19:49 PM
Cavan Juniors playing Wexford in Wexford 2mrw evening at 7.30. Mixture of Senior players who didnt play Championship last year and some lads called in lately.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on May 26, 2010, 12:53:43 PM
Hyland reveals selection for Wexford trip
26 May 2010


Cavan junior manager Terry Hyland has revealed his starting 15 for tonight's Leinster JFC showdown with Wexford at Wexford Park (throw-in 7.30pm).

The Lacken man has selected numerous players which featured in Cavan's National Football League campaign, including Eoin McPhilips, Lorcan Mulvey, Ray Galligan and Michael Brennan, while there are also a number of new faces such as Lavey's Stephen Jordan and Adrian Taite of Cuchullains.

While Hyland has them down to start, it is unlikely that Tomas Corr (injured) or Dane O'Dowd (exam commitments) will feature against the Model men.

Meanwhile, Tommy Carr's senior panel will welcome Wexford to the Cuchullains GAA grounds this Sunday for a final challenge game before their Ulster SFC opener against Fermanagh next month.

The match, which throws in at 3.00pm, will mark the opening of the new superb community facilities at Mullagh.

Cavan (Leinster JFC v Wexford): Darren Murphy; Eoin McPhilips, Tomas Corr, Eoin Smith; Alan Clarke, Dane O'Dowd, Mark Johnston; Lorcan Mulvey, Adrian Taite; Darren Costello, Ray Galligan, Stephen Jordan; John McCabe, Michael Brennan, Philip Brady.

Subs: Andrew Smith, Killian Lynch, Padraig Cahill, Niall O'Reilly, Kevin Donohoe, Paul Brady (Castlerahan), Eamonn Reilly (Shannon Gaels), Paddy Bird, Fergal Clarke.



Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4sam on May 26, 2010, 02:10:12 PM
Quote from: Celt_Man on May 26, 2010, 12:53:43 PM
Hyland reveals selection for Wexford trip
26 May 2010


Cavan junior manager Terry Hyland has revealed his starting 15 for tonight's Leinster JFC showdown with Wexford at Wexford Park (throw-in 7.30pm).

The Lacken man has selected numerous players which featured in Cavan's National Football League campaign, including Eoin McPhilips, Lorcan Mulvey, Ray Galligan and Michael Brennan, while there are also a number of new faces such as Lavey's Stephen Jordan and Adrian Taite of Cuchullains.

While Hyland has them down to start, it is unlikely that Tomas Corr (injured) or Dane O'Dowd (exam commitments) will feature against the Model men.

Meanwhile, Tommy Carr's senior panel will welcome Wexford to the Cuchullains GAA grounds this Sunday for a final challenge game before their Ulster SFC opener against Fermanagh next month.

The match, which throws in at 3.00pm, will mark the opening of the new superb community facilities at Mullagh.

Cavan (Leinster JFC v Wexford): Darren Murphy; Eoin McPhilips, Tomas Corr, Eoin Smith; Alan Clarke, Dane O'Dowd, Mark Johnston; Lorcan Mulvey, Adrian Taite; Darren Costello, Ray Galligan, Stephen Jordan; John McCabe, Michael Brennan, Philip Brady.

Subs: Andrew Smith, Killian Lynch, Padraig Cahill, Niall O'Reilly, Kevin Donohoe, Paul Brady (Castlerahan), Eamonn Reilly (Shannon Gaels), Paddy Bird, Fergal Clarke.





I see we have a gorum member on the panel!!!  ^^^
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on May 26, 2010, 03:31:43 PM
Quote from: cavan4sam on May 26, 2010, 02:10:12 PM
Quote from: Celt_Man on May 26, 2010, 12:53:43 PM
Hyland reveals selection for Wexford trip
26 May 2010


Cavan junior manager Terry Hyland has revealed his starting 15 for tonight's Leinster JFC showdown with Wexford at Wexford Park (throw-in 7.30pm).

The Lacken man has selected numerous players which featured in Cavan's National Football League campaign, including Eoin McPhilips, Lorcan Mulvey, Ray Galligan and Michael Brennan, while there are also a number of new faces such as Lavey's Stephen Jordan and Adrian Taite of Cuchullains.

While Hyland has them down to start, it is unlikely that Tomas Corr (injured) or Dane O'Dowd (exam commitments) will feature against the Model men.

Meanwhile, Tommy Carr's senior panel will welcome Wexford to the Cuchullains GAA grounds this Sunday for a final challenge game before their Ulster SFC opener against Fermanagh next month.

The match, which throws in at 3.00pm, will mark the opening of the new superb community facilities at Mullagh.

Cavan (Leinster JFC v Wexford): Darren Murphy; Eoin McPhilips, Tomas Corr, Eoin Smith; Alan Clarke, Dane O'Dowd, Mark Johnston; Lorcan Mulvey, Adrian Taite; Darren Costello, Ray Galligan, Stephen Jordan; John McCabe, Michael Brennan, Philip Brady.

Subs: Andrew Smith, Killian Lynch, Padraig Cahill, Niall O'Reilly, Kevin Donohoe, Paul Brady (Castlerahan), Eamonn Reilly (Shannon Gaels), Paddy Bird, Fergal Clarke.





I see we have a gorum member on the panel!!!  ^^^
Missed that myself. Must've impressed......................before last weekend :D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on May 26, 2010, 03:39:44 PM
Lawrence,He was one of their best players on the day to be fair.  ;)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on May 26, 2010, 05:27:12 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on May 26, 2010, 03:39:44 PM
Lawrence,He was one of their best players on the day to be fair.  ;)
Not sure how you meant that  ;) in your post but I'm sure he was. ;) :D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on May 26, 2010, 11:12:57 PM
Quote from: Lawrence of Knockbride on May 26, 2010, 05:27:12 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on May 26, 2010, 03:39:44 PM
Lawrence,He was one of their best players on the day to be fair.  ;)
Not sure how you meant that  ;) in your post but I'm sure he was. ;) :D

;D  ;D Nah lawrence, i wasnt trying to be smart!!!
i didnt want to say too much more, as it would leave his identity known to those few who still dont know who he is  :D.
He did play well,Linked the attack and defense well,and carried the ball well also.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Theobald on May 27, 2010, 01:38:02 AM
The selection process for the Cavan Junior team baffles me...... How do they come up with these selections? For instance, I notice that Paddy Bird from Bailieborough is on the panel. I'm not suprised by this because I think he deserves it and probably deserves a crack at the senior squad too. However, Declan O'Reilly from the same club, who played a couple of games for the seniors in the McKenna Cup already this year, has not been selected. That just seems weird to me!! How can a lad be good enough for McKenna Cup while not being considered for the Junior team??....... I'm just using those two guys as an example because I know what they are both capable of, being from the same club. I'm sure there are other anomolies aswell....... Anyway, it all begs the question as to what type of effort is being put into this junior squad selection...... I'd also be wondering if this junior team is of any benefit to the county's development or to the the benefit of the selected players. I don't think they even have any training sessions together before matches!!!! Seems like a bit of a waste of time and money to me.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on May 28, 2010, 03:02:43 PM
Best of luck to the Minors on Sunday... a win there would be a nice lift
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on May 28, 2010, 03:17:44 PM
By the by, the joke that is the 2009 Div 1 final is now over...

http://www.anglocelt.ie/sport/localgaa/articles/2010/05/26/3997403-2009-acfl-farce-reaches-conclusion/

2009 ACFL farce reaches conclusion

The drawn-out saga concerning the 2009 ACFL Division One final has finally come to a conclusion, with county board PRO Declan Woods confirming that "the matter is now closed".

The ACFL Division One title was originally awarded to Cavan Gaels by the CCC some weeks ago. However, Castlerahan - who, it is understood, had stated in writing that they were conceding the tie which was fixed for Wednesday April 14 - then appealed the decision to the Ulster Council.

In a further twist, the provincial body threw out the case on a technicality only for Castlerahan and Cavan Gaels to reach an agreement to play the match at a meeting attended by two officials of each club and members of the CCC and county executive on Wednesday May 19 in the Hotel Kilmore.

The CCC agreed to accomodate a request to re-fix the final and brought forward Round 14 of the ACFL so that the clubs could meet. However, for reasons which are not clear, Cavan Gaels had a change of heart and informed the CCC last Monday night week (May 14) that they were unwilling to play the tie.

"Cavan county board did their level best to accomodate both clubs but the matter is now closed," stated Woods.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on May 28, 2010, 07:04:00 PM
Quote from: Celt_Man on May 28, 2010, 03:17:44 PM
By the by, the joke that is the 2009 Div 1 final is now over...

http://www.anglocelt.ie/sport/localgaa/articles/2010/05/26/3997403-2009-acfl-farce-reaches-conclusion/

2009 ACFL farce reaches conclusion

The drawn-out saga concerning the 2009 ACFL Division One final has finally come to a conclusion, with county board PRO Declan Woods confirming that "the matter is now closed".

The ACFL Division One title was originally awarded to Cavan Gaels by the CCC some weeks ago. However, Castlerahan - who, it is understood, had stated in writing that they were conceding the tie which was fixed for Wednesday April 14 - then appealed the decision to the Ulster Council.

In a further twist, the provincial body threw out the case on a technicality only for Castlerahan and Cavan Gaels to reach an agreement to play the match at a meeting attended by two officials of each club and members of the CCC and county executive on Wednesday May 19 in the Hotel Kilmore.

The CCC agreed to accomodate a request to re-fix the final and brought forward Round 14 of the ACFL so that the clubs could meet. However, for reasons which are not clear, Cavan Gaels had a change of heart and informed the CCC last Monday night week (May 14) that they were unwilling to play the tie.

"Cavan county board did their level best to accomodate both clubs but the matter is now closed," stated Woods.

Both clubs really are setting a great example to the youth of the county ::)
Best of luck to the minors on Sunday, would appreciate a report from any of the lads that can make it as I won't be able to.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: sams the aim on May 28, 2010, 11:09:38 PM
Shock horror der Myles.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on May 29, 2010, 01:47:50 AM
ACFL Division 1

Killygarry  1-12 1-11 Ramor United   
Ballinagh  1-11 3-4 Mullahoran   
Lacken  1-10 1-18 Gowna 
Denn  1-12 0-12 Castlerahan 
Lavey  0-8 0-15 Cavan Gaels   
Kingscourt  0-17 0-4 Redhills   
Killeshandra  1-8 2-9 Belturbet 

ACFL Division 2
   
Drumgoon  1-12 1-12 Drumalee   
Bailieboro  2-10 2-10 Drung 
Drumlane  1-18 0-4 Kill   
Knockbride  1-12 0-10 Cootehill   

ACFL Division 3
 
Cornafean  0-12 1-5 Kildallan 
Mountnugent  0-14 3-9 Ballymachugh   
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Swadman on May 29, 2010, 11:06:25 AM
Fair play to you Celt Man. Only for ya I would have to wait 5 days for a result to be put up on Aertel. Smoke signals would be faster than Cavans Aertel page at the moment.
Best of luck to the Minors BTW Brian Treacy is the physical trainer for Fermanagh and trained our bucks last year, had them fitter than they had ever been. Nice fella and a very good trainer - but I still think Cavan will edge it. Come on the Blues. 
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on May 29, 2010, 01:07:41 PM
Lads just wondering if any of you know if the dates are out for the championship games this summer? More interested in the Intermediate than anything else?

Best of luck to the minors to - I'll prob head down so I'll give a bit of report when i get home.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on May 29, 2010, 02:26:51 PM
Quote from: put-it-up on May 29, 2010, 01:07:41 PM
Lads just wondering if any of you know if the dates are out for the championship games this summer? More interested in the Intermediate than anything else?

Best of luck to the minors to - I'll prob head down so I'll give a bit of report when i get home.

Intermediate championship starts from Thursday 22nd July to Sunday 25th... We're playing Killinkere on Sunday in Breffni and I think Bailieboro are playing on the Saturday against the Gaels.

Then we're playing you the following week again in Breffni, no date set yet for the third round of the group stages
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on May 29, 2010, 02:32:19 PM
Quote from: Celt_Man on May 29, 2010, 02:26:51 PM
Quote from: put-it-up on May 29, 2010, 01:07:41 PM
Lads just wondering if any of you know if the dates are out for the championship games this summer? More interested in the Intermediate than anything else?

Best of luck to the minors to - I'll prob head down so I'll give a bit of report when i get home.

Intermediate championship starts from Thursday 22nd July to Sunday 25th... We're playing Killinkere on Sunday in Breffni and I think Bailieboro are playing on the Saturday against the Gaels.

Then we're playing you the following week again in Breffni, no date set yet for the third round of the group stages

Good man CM, I had a root around the emails and found them alright - there is obv no master plan out for the championship then no? Gael second team is going to be hit big-time through young lads heading to the states.

Redhills are another club that will suffer big-time.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on May 29, 2010, 03:08:39 PM
Swadman you should check the Arva club website,it seems to be fastest with results.

Best of luck to the Minors.Haven't seen them yet but they have some fine footballers and hopefully they get a good support like the Under 21s got.

Alot of clubs will be hit with lads heading off although the Gaels are losing an unreal amount. Mullahoran had a few departures this week too.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on May 29, 2010, 03:36:51 PM
Quote from: boojangles on May 29, 2010, 03:08:39 PM
Swadman you should check the Arva club website,it seems to be fastest with results.

Best of luck to the Minors.Haven't seen them yet but they have some fine footballers and hopefully they get a good support like the Under 21s got.

Alot of clubs will be hit with lads heading off although the Gaels are losing an unreal amount. Mullahoran had a few departures this week too.

i saw the minors twice, I wasn't overly impressed. They have a good work-ethic though and its a typical Mickey Graham team. No real individuals stars.

One area I would be concerned about is Midfield though. No real height or presence there from what I have seen. Couple of good backs in the team too.

Should be a tight game,  Fermanagh are meant to be decent this year.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on May 30, 2010, 08:23:09 PM
9 point win for minors I believe. Sounds like a great performance but wasn't at it so hopefully some of ye can let me know.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on May 30, 2010, 09:12:10 PM
Leading 2-5 to 1-6 at half-time, won 2-16 to 1-10 in the end. Good result especially if Fermanagh were decent this year like people have been saying, although the Armagh lads are in our half of the draw and are supposed to be a very tough outfit as well.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on May 30, 2010, 11:36:04 PM
Great performance today was delighted with it.

Brady and Flanagan were excellent in attack and Conroy from Lavey showed a real eye for a pass. I raised concerns over the MF area but in fairness the two boys there done there work with minimum fuss and just broke eveything down. Conor Moynagh reminds me of  BarryWatters when he was younger - looks a very good footballer and the two cornerbacks that started gave away nothing. The number 3 did struggle to deal with his man but the Fermanagh boy was a right handful. Most of the Cavan Lads performed well to be fair and it was a fairly open game of football. Cavan, as i said before, are a typical Mickey Graham team. Well drilled, organised and commited. Big test for them now against Armagh on June 27 (I think)!

Team to start was
Conor Gilsenan Bboro
Aiden Moran Ballyhaise
Jason McLoughlin Shannon G
Shane Clarke Shercock
Paul McEvoy Xlough
Aaron Smith Lavey
Conor Moynagh Drumgoon
Paul Graham Gaels
Turloc Mooney Redhills
Fergal Flanagan BBridge
Chris Conroy Lavey
Emmet Fitzsimons Killinkere
Paul O'Connor Gaels
Jack Brady Ramor
Andrew Dewart Gowna
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on May 30, 2010, 11:36:53 PM
In other breaking news, Wexford beat the seniors today in Mullagh ;D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on May 31, 2010, 11:09:55 AM
Quote from: hardstation on May 30, 2010, 11:54:26 PM
Who is managing Cavan these days?

Minor manager is Mickey Graham, Seniors is Tommy Truck!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on June 02, 2010, 12:52:56 PM
Jaysus it's fierce quiet around here these days...

Highlights of the Minors v Fermanagh on TG4 about 15 minutes in.... although the Kildare - Dublin replay which ended in another draw after extra time is worth a look

http://live.tg4.ie/main.aspx?content=102224343041
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on June 02, 2010, 01:28:57 PM
Lads, is it true that the county players can't play for their clubs this weekend as it's within 10 days of the Fermanagh match? Interesting to see how Kingscourt fare against the Gaels on Saturday evening too. I hear also that Paul Graham is a brother of the manager (Mickey, I mean). This true?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Terry Coyle on June 02, 2010, 01:31:24 PM
Quote from: Lawrence of Knockbride on June 02, 2010, 01:28:57 PM
Lads, is it true that the county players can't play for their clubs this weekend as it's within 10 days of the Fermanagh match? Interesting to see how Kingscourt fare against the Gaels on Saturday evening too. I hear also that Paul Graham is a brother of the manager (Mickey, I mean). This true?

Not sure about county players this weekend. But yes Paul is a brother of Mickey. Great young player.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on June 02, 2010, 01:36:42 PM
From what I gater, no county players are playing this weekend so I wouldn't be surprised to see a few games called off!

Paul is a brother, but goin by the performance he gave on Sunday he is there on merit. Kept it simple, worked hard and completely spoiled the others teams midfield.

Was there a press night on last night?Any goss from it?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on June 02, 2010, 01:47:31 PM
Nope no county players this weekend... they are allowed play in Round 10 - the day after the Cavan match which is a good trick and if Cavan beat Fermanagh they aren't allowed play the week after in Round 11
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on June 02, 2010, 01:55:59 PM
Ah no, Bailieborough will be without our county lads for the next couple of weeks ;D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: CC1 on June 02, 2010, 02:23:20 PM
Quote from: put-it-up on June 02, 2010, 01:55:59 PM
Ah no, Bailieborough will be without our county lads for the next couple of weeks ;D
You will need all ya can get this weekend!  ;)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on June 02, 2010, 04:57:26 PM
Quote from: CC1 on June 02, 2010, 02:23:20 PM
Quote from: put-it-up on June 02, 2010, 01:55:59 PM
Ah no, Bailieborough will be without our county lads for the next couple of weeks ;D
You will need all ya can get this weekend!  ;)

If we get any more injuries you will be playing our u16's!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: CC1 on June 02, 2010, 11:15:47 PM
Quote from: put-it-up on June 02, 2010, 04:57:26 PM
Quote from: CC1 on June 02, 2010, 02:23:20 PM
Quote from: put-it-up on June 02, 2010, 01:55:59 PM
Ah no, Bailieborough will be without our county lads for the next couple of weeks ;D
You will need all ya can get this weekend!  ;)

If we get any more injuries you will be playing our u16's!
Likewise mate! We had to make 5 changes tonight due to injury. On top of the 5 that we already have out injured... How about we play our crocks against your crocks and see who wins?  ;D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on June 03, 2010, 12:09:54 AM
Quote from: CC1 on June 02, 2010, 11:15:47 PM
Quote from: put-it-up on June 02, 2010, 04:57:26 PM
Quote from: CC1 on June 02, 2010, 02:23:20 PM
Quote from: put-it-up on June 02, 2010, 01:55:59 PM
Ah no, Bailieborough will be without our county lads for the next couple of weeks ;D
You will need all ya can get this weekend!  ;)

If we get any more injuries you will be playing our u16's!
Likewise mate! We had to make 5 changes tonight due to injury. On top of the 5 that we already have out injured... How about we play our crocks against your crocks and see who wins?  ;D

What about a 5 a-side astro ;D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: PhilsJemmysField on June 03, 2010, 11:55:36 AM
 ;D
www.jamboree.ie
The Saw Doctors are the big draw for the Killinkere Jamboree this year, so big in fact that you  would need to start reserving tickets as soon as possible.
The Tuam group, most famous for I Usedta Love Her and N17, perform on the Sunday of the holiday weekend at the start of June (Friday 4 to Monday 7).
Tickets are €25 and are available from outlets in the area, CJ's Coffee Shop Virginia, Sheanon's Butchers Bailieborough, Multisound Cavan and Pat Clarke's Ballyjamesduff., as well as jamboree.ie. Doors open at 9pm and a disco is planned from 12.30-1.30am -  tickets are selling fast so buy early to avoid disappointment.
The highlight of the weekend's daytime entertainment will be the air show on Sunday, June 6
One of Europe's top air stunt acts, The Twister Duo, will top the bill with their breathtaking aerobatic shows. The two planes will leave spectators gasping with their execution of synchronised loop the loops, twists and barrel rolls.
Other performers include Ireland's top air stunt pilot Dave Bruton, a 10-time national champion and also featuring Eddie Goggins display of multiple rolls reaching 250 mph before pulling 8Gs to a vertical up line to perform a dramatic rolling spiral tower. Then also on the bill is the Ulster Break Dancing Championships will attract some of the best dancers from all over Ireland and the UK to compete for the title.
Other Sunday highlights include  hen racing world championships, Zorbs, scramblers, funfair and lots more.
The highlight of the Monday events include the Ulster tug-o-war championships, championship boxing, an open darts competition, pub tug-o-war, the World Hen Racing finals & the Craggy Island Funfair and lots more.
On the Friday night the Jamboree Poker Classic returns and on Saturday night various couples will battle it out for the title of Mr. and Mrs. Jamboree. Too Tall Paul will provide the music.
www.jamboree.ie
Contact details
Breffni Clarke 087 1225465
Patrick Clarke 087 2073549
www.jamboree.ie
secretary.killinkere.cavan@gaa.ie ;D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on June 03, 2010, 05:46:31 PM
From Hoganstand.   Hope he mends well.

Johnston facing more surgery

Cavan's Seanie Johnston
03 June 2010


Cavan boss Tommy Carr has revealed that Seanie Johnston will need a second operation on the elbow he dislocated earlier this year.

However, this won't stop him from lining out against Fermanagh in Sunday week's Ulster SFC quarter-final according to Carr. The Cavan Gaels sharpshooter recently returned to full training after missing the entire NFL campaign after sustained the injury while playing for DCU in the Sigerson Cup.

"Johnston is back to full fitness. He will need another operation at some stage, but it is not preventing him from partaking at the moment," the Breffni County manager said.

"He has been full-blooded at it now for the last two weeks. He played a full game on Sunday, so we expect him to be available for selection.

"Every player that comes back after an injury is very apprehensive and cautious of that particular injury, and sometimes there is nothing that you can do about that caution."



Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4sam on June 04, 2010, 12:38:16 AM
Just have to say that I have just come across 'The New and Improved Hot ladies thread( Probably NSFW)' for the first time and I have to say I have a new found respect for both BHMan and CeltMan. Kudos to the both of you, I am goin to post a few of my personal favourites over the next few days.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Never beat the deeler on June 04, 2010, 01:39:51 AM
Quote from: cavan4sam on June 04, 2010, 12:38:16 AM
Just have to say that I have just come across 'The New and Improved Hot ladies thread( Probably NSFW)' for the first time and I have to say I have a new found respect for both BHMan and CeltMan. Kudos to the both of you, I am goin to post a few of my personal favourites over the next few days.

Do we need to arrange a clean-up  ;D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4sam on June 04, 2010, 01:42:13 AM
No no, at least not yet, Im in work so that would be wrong on many levels!!!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on June 04, 2010, 02:32:46 AM
Quote from: cavan4sam on June 04, 2010, 12:38:16 AM
Just have to say that I have just come across 'The New and Improved Hot ladies thread( Probably NSFW)' for the first time and I have to say I have a new found respect for both BHMan and CeltMan. Kudos to the both of you, I am goin to post a few of my personal favourites over the next few days.

You're welcome C4Sam
make sure you look  through all 50 pages.
ive "read" over them three times now  ;D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on June 04, 2010, 08:30:51 AM
Just wanted to offer my condolences to the family of Killeshandra Club man Cathal O Rourke who died yesterday. He was junior team captain for a long time back when I was playing and held positions on the board over the years. Mostly he was a good club man and you would see him at most Killeshandra and Cavan games. It is important that we remember the ordinary members of our clubs as well as the more high profile ones. RIP.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on June 04, 2010, 10:25:58 AM
Quote from: cavan4sam on June 04, 2010, 12:38:16 AM
Just have to say that I have just come across 'The New and Improved Hot ladies thread( Probably NSFW)' for the first time and I have to say I have a new found respect for both BHMan and CeltMan. Kudos to the both of you, I am goin to post a few of my personal favourites over the next few days.

I stumbled across that thread during exam time - what a saviour and morale booster it was  ;D God some strange lookes from surrounding computers in the library..haha!

Lads, I saw the subs which came on for the seniors in Mullagh at the weekend. Killian Lynch, Adrian Taite? Bit of a co-incidence that the game was in Mullagh and a selector is from that club or what? :o
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on June 04, 2010, 01:37:34 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on June 04, 2010, 08:30:51 AM
Just wanted to offer my condolences to the family of Killeshandra Club man Cathal O Rourke who died yesterday. He was junior team captain for a long time back when I was playing and held positions on the board over the years. Mostly he was a good club man and you would see him at most Killeshandra and Cavan games. It is important that we remember the ordinary members of our clubs as well as the more high profile ones. RIP.

May he rest in peace.
I believe he was your U-14 Manager this year also.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on June 04, 2010, 04:19:42 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on June 04, 2010, 08:30:51 AM
Just wanted to offer my condolences to the family of Killeshandra Club man Cathal O Rourke who died yesterday. He was junior team captain for a long time back when I was playing and held positions on the board over the years. Mostly he was a good club man and you would see him at most Killeshandra and Cavan games. It is important that we remember the ordinary members of our clubs as well as the more high profile ones. RIP.

RIP
my condolences to his family, friends and all at Killeshandra GFC.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dougal on June 04, 2010, 05:57:37 PM
R.I.P Cathal (Rourkie) Rourke,a great character and loved his football,rarely missed a leaguers game from senior right down to u12s.put alot of time into killeshandra football,and will be greatly missed by all that knew him.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: gortnaleck on June 05, 2010, 05:17:41 PM
R.I.P.Cathal. He probably had a relation playing back when Billy Murphy,Michael Reilly,Toals etc were playing.Would that be right ?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on June 06, 2010, 07:31:57 PM
Quote from: gortnaleck on June 05, 2010, 05:17:41 PM
R.I.P.Cathal. He probably had a relation playing back when Billy Murphy,Michael Reilly,Toals etc were playing.Would that be right ?

His father Charlie and uncle Paul would have played with the leaguers in the past but it was before my time.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on June 07, 2010, 01:18:10 PM
Results from the last couple of days...  A few shock there...  Gaels beating Kingscourt by 14 points - jaysus!

ACFL Division 1
 
Belturbet  0-12 1-5 Killygarry   
Cavan Gaels  0-21 0-7 Kingscourt   
Castlerahan  2-7 1-8 Lavey   
Gowna  0-15 1-6 Denn   
Mullahoran  0-12 0-12 Lacken   
Cuchullains  2-9 0-17 Ballinagh   
Ramor United  1-7 1-4 Crosserlough 
Redhills  0-8 1-17 Killeshandra   
ACFL Reserve Division 1 
 
Gowna  1-10 0-7 Denn 
Mullahoran  3-7 1-13 Lacken 
Cuchullains  2-4 2-10 Ballinagh 
Ramor United  1-7 1-14 Crosserlough 

ACFL Division 2
   
Kill  0-12 1-9 Knockbride 
Shercock  1-9 1-9 Bailieboro   
Drung  0-6 1-13 Drumlane   
Drumalee  1-11 0-15 Cavan Gaels
Killinkere  1-10 0-10 Butlersbridge   
Ballyhaise  0-15 0-5 Drumgoon 
Drumalee  0-5 0-10 Shercock 

 
ACFL Reserve Division 2 

Drung  3-8 1-12 Drumlane   
Kill  0-3 4-13 Knockbride 
Shercock  2-6 1-9 Bailieboro 
Ballyhaise  4-15 0-7 Drumgoon 

ACFL Division 3

Kildallan  1-12 1-10 Mountnugent   
Shannon Gaels  2-12 0-12 Swanlinbar 
Corlough  1-3 0-14 Templeport   
Ballymachugh  1-12 1-7 Killygarry 
 
ACFL Reserve Division 3 

Kildallan  1-15 2-5 Mountnugent 
Shannon Gaels  1-13 1-5 Swanlinbar 
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on June 08, 2010, 10:40:51 PM
It will be announced by 2mrw so might as well put it up.

Fintan Reilly
Sheridan
Corr
Cahill
Gunner
McGuigan
Alan Clarke
Givney
Galligan
Flanagan
Nesty
McKeever
Mackey
Brennan
Jelly

One or 2 suprises and I'd be gutted if I was Eoin Mc Phillips but it was always going to be tight for places in the backline.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on June 08, 2010, 10:58:58 PM
A pity for Eoin but a place in the back line was always going to be found for Sheridan and Brady.

So the report about Johnson was a bit of misdirection.  Should have known.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on June 08, 2010, 11:08:25 PM
Quote from: Denn Forever on June 08, 2010, 10:58:58 PM
A pity for Eoin but a place in the back line was always going to be found for Sheridan and Brady.

So the report about Johnson was a bit of misdirection.  Should have known.

I still wouldn't be suprised if Johnston didn't start. Martin Reilly may.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on June 08, 2010, 11:20:45 PM
Seven new faces, whose average age is 26 between them. But worrying when you have 7 lads of that kind of age making their debut in my opinion. But I suppose the flip side is they are trying new faces which is what we all wanted.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on June 09, 2010, 10:45:53 AM
I think Brennan at FF is a good decision. He has a football brain and you need that to get the forward unit playing as a team and not as individuals. For all the score Donaghy gets for Kerry it is equally impressive the amount he sets up. McPhillips is hard done by, personally I don't think Dermot Shierdan is a man for playing in the corner but I think there may be a chance Fermanagh will go with a 2 man FF line so Shierdan will probably go out with the other man. Alan Clarke is not someone I am overly familiar with, how did he make his way into the team? Also glad to see the midfield partnership. There is athelticism there which will be important. All over looks like close to the right team to me so I promise I won't give Carr any abuse for his team selection at least!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on June 09, 2010, 01:45:05 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on June 09, 2010, 10:45:53 AM
I think Brennan at FF is a good decision. He has a football brain and you need that to get the forward unit playing as a team and not as individuals. For all the score Donaghy gets for Kerry it is equally impressive the amount he sets up. McPhillips is hard done by, personally I don't think Dermot Shierdan is a man for playing in the corner but I think there may be a chance Fermanagh will go with a 2 man FF line so Shierdan will probably go out with the other man. Alan Clarke is not someone I am overly familiar with, how did he make his way into the team? Also glad to see the midfield partnership. There is athelticism there which will be important. All over looks like close to the right team to me so I promise I won't give Carr any abuse for his team selection at least!
Brennan may be intelligent but overall his contribution this year has been average at best. Slow to release the ball and his handling often letting him down. In fairness Galligan didn't push him and I didn't see ho McKiernan faired in the recent challenge games.
Carr has watched the form in recent games so I'm in no position to say who's on/off the boil but I agree with Boojangles that McPhilips is extremely unlucky. Let's hope he doesn't just leave the panel as seems to be the trend. Dermot Sheridan in the corner needs to shake himself as he's been asleep this season. If Fermanagh play a two man FF line then no better man than Cahill to go out the field which means that McPhilips could've played inside. McCutcheon missing too-maybe he's not fit? Clarke hasn't been seen since his red against Louth so, again, Carr must have seem something recently that impressed him.
I'm glad Galligan is MF but very surprised as again he's played very little football. Walshe is injured but I think it says more about the options than Galligan himself.
Anyway, the bench should be reasonably strong with Cullvan, McCutcheon, McPhilips, McKiernan all available so here's hoping. Word is the games involving county players will be called off on Sunday should we progress?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on June 09, 2010, 02:32:26 PM
Quote from: Lawrence of Knockbride on June 09, 2010, 01:45:05 PM
Word is the games involving county players will be called off on Sunday should we progress?

Aye if Cavan win, all games involving county players are postponed althought club can agree to play without county players if they wish...
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Terry Coyle on June 09, 2010, 04:49:39 PM
I would have preferred Cullivan in there instead of Brennan but apart from that looks good! All the best to the lads on Saturday.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: RetroGael on June 09, 2010, 08:21:40 PM
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Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on June 09, 2010, 08:23:36 PM
You would hope we would beat Fermanagh but I would concerned about having over a third of the team having never tasted IC football before. If it was anyone else in Ulster I would say we would be beaten but don't think Fermanagh have the fire power to blow us away! Be interesting to see Mackey and Jelly play in the one forward line, although i'm still not sure if Johnston will start. Brennan is not my cup of tea and I would have preferred to see Sheridan WB but other than that, it's as good as we got.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on June 09, 2010, 09:08:47 PM
Quote from: put-it-up on June 09, 2010, 08:23:36 PM
You would hope we would beat Fermanagh but I would concerned about having over a third of the team having never tasted IC football before. If it was anyone else in Ulster I would say we would be beaten but don't think Fermanagh have the fire power to blow us away! Be interesting to see Mackey and Jelly play in the one forward line, although i'm still not sure if Johnston will start. Brennan is not my cup of tea and I would have preferred to see Sheridan WB but other than that, it's as good as we got.

Sure what can you do about having all these debutants. We all wanted fresh blood, most of these lads played all through the league so he is hardly going to drop them now! Its not the best team in the world but the question mark is can Carr get them to play to the top of their ability, can Carr get them motivated and can Carr handle the tactical tussle of the almost certainty of a blanket defense. I think his team selection is not too bad but that is only one part of the equation.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on June 09, 2010, 09:49:13 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on June 09, 2010, 09:08:47 PM
Quote from: put-it-up on June 09, 2010, 08:23:36 PM
You would hope we would beat Fermanagh but I would concerned about having over a third of the team having never tasted IC football before. If it was anyone else in Ulster I would say we would be beaten but don't think Fermanagh have the fire power to blow us away! Be interesting to see Mackey and Jelly play in the one forward line, although i'm still not sure if Johnston will start. Brennan is not my cup of tea and I would have preferred to see Sheridan WB but other than that, it's as good as we got.

Sure what can you do about having all these debutants. We all wanted fresh blood, most of these lads played all through the league so he is hardly going to drop them now! Its not the best team in the world but the question mark is can Carr get them to play to the top of their ability, can Carr get them motivated and can Carr handle the tactical tussle of the almost certainty of a blanket defense. I think his team selection is not too bad but that is only one part of the equation.

Agree completely Myles and I was one that made it clear it was time for fresh faces last year. It's just the step-up from league to championship is a significant one and I fear one or two will freeze. Disappointing to only see two of the u21's on the panel but I know TC can't call up lads from USA.

I think we all know motivation is the big time? Will they be revved up to try and beat Fermanagh and enter the semi-finals in an ideal situation where they will be under no pressure whatsover, or will it be back to the happy go lucky football of the past and just hope for the best?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on June 09, 2010, 10:04:24 PM
The closer the game gets the more concerned I am. I really think Fermanagh are planning an ambush here having totally sacrificed the league with a gameplan totally foreign to them and if we get out of it ahead by a point we'll have a decent days work done.

Then again, the rewards might be dubious - a game with a Monaghan side that look fit to ate us without salt - but you have to go out to win every game I suppose...
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on June 09, 2010, 10:25:25 PM
Quote from: cavanmaniac on June 09, 2010, 10:04:24 PM
The closer the game gets the more concerned I am. I really think Fermanagh are planning an ambush here having totally sacrificed the league with a gameplan totally foreign to them and if we get out of it ahead by a point we'll have a decent days work done.

Then again, the rewards might be dubious - a game with a Monaghan side that look fit to ate us without salt - but you have to go out to win every game I suppose...

Listen lads,  If TC and the players have not been working on how they are going to combat a swarm defence over the past couple of weeks then they should be shot. It's championship, its about winning and a gameplan should have been in place long before now in order to ensure that happens. I mean how long have we known Fermanagh is the first hurdle that we have to clear? Quick and effective ball into the forwards or space will be needed and if that doesn't work the players will have to support each other twice as much to draw out the Fermanagh rearguard by overlap after overlap. A team can defend all they like but if your cute enough about, cracks will appear.

And if any of the players are afraid to play Monaghan they should be shot again. Yes they were impressive beating Armagh but imagine going into an Ulster Semi-Final where nobody would expect you to get within ten points of the other team. It's a dream scenario and I would snap it up with both hands. You literally have nothing to lose against one of your main rivals.

However, first things first, and that is Fermanagh. We have no right to look down upon them. There as good as us and we're as bad as them. A win on Sat will take effort, commitment, work-rate, ruthlessness and hunger. We as fans know we have talent sprinkled through our squad but the team need to prove they have the already mentioned traits. Lets forget about Fermanagh because as Myles touched on already if we get our own performance right - and that is all we can control - then we should have enough to scrape through.

Come on Cavan  ;D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on June 10, 2010, 01:07:39 AM
They used to say that about Armagh in their pomp, landing high diagonal ball in on top of Clarke and McDonnell - it's one thing knowing what they'll do, it's another trying to stop them. Fermanagh will be - to use the vernacular - an awful f**king pain in the hole to play against. But hopefully you're right and we can get around it somehow.

You're correct too about any semi-finalist having the upper hand in the psychology department against the Mawnahin boys but Jesus they looked very good against Armagh, Ulster title-winning good IMHO. Worries for another day though, with a bit of luck.

Anyway, here's hoping for a one-point win on Saturday.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on June 10, 2010, 04:45:18 PM
Good win for the Juniors last night - so we're in our second provincal final of the year!
Desperate game but in fairness there was a brutal wind blowing and it made a heams of the whole thing.
Terrible challenge by the Meath FF on Eoin McPhilips right at the end, he deserved his red card.  I wonder is McPhilips alright, would hate to see him injured and not able to take his place on the bench on Saturday...
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on June 10, 2010, 05:12:39 PM
Great win and I see from Hoganstand that they will be playing Louth in the Final in Croke Park. 

Hopefully this will be only our first visit to Croke Park this year.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tierworker blue on June 10, 2010, 11:55:13 PM
Quote from: Denn Forever on June 10, 2010, 05:12:39 PM
Great win and I see from Hoganstand that they will be playing Louth in the Final in Croke Park. 

Hopefully this will be only our first visit to Croke Park this year.

When is that final?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on June 11, 2010, 09:51:37 AM
I agree with maniac, there is something about this game that worries me. Fermanagh didn't become a crap team overnight, they will no doubt abandon the experiements they did in the league and return to blanket defence. With so many new players I hope some of them will be leader enough to deal with whatever Fermanagh have up their sleeve.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on June 11, 2010, 10:29:44 AM
Other posters have said it already so I won't rehash. A one point win will do me fine. Serious championship inexperience but that had to come with retirements and the need to clean out some deadwood. If we can manage a win, perform creditably against the Mushroom pickers, win one game in the qualifiers and have lads showing determination, pride and some footballing awareness I would take that as progress right now. Equally important that our minors would somehow or other get over Armagh, a huge ask but maybe not beyond the bounds. That alone would seal or most successful year at underage in god knows how long (taking under 21's into account) and might give us a bit of momentum for the future. Finally, I wouldn't be looking down my nose too far at what our juniors are doing either, any prospect for lads to put on a cavan jersey and develop a winning habit is no bad thing. Not a bit of harm for the likes of McPhillips, Mulvey etc. to be getting a run around Croke park.

Anyway, best of luck to all concerned. I've no doubt they've put a hell of an effort in over the last few months. Just hope the vast majority of lads can produce their very best tomorrow, after that you can ask no more
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: FermGael on June 11, 2010, 10:58:45 AM
I see some of the posters on here are thinking that fermanagh will be playing the swarm defence.  We will.
I think that Cavan are going to adapt the exact same tactic as Fermanagh and will hope(like last year) that Johnston and Mackey will be the difference.
It's going to be awful to watch.

Where is decent to watch the world cup after the match is over??
I am refusing to go to the imperial because the price of a pint in it is a joke.
You would get cheaper in Dublin
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on June 11, 2010, 11:07:15 AM
Quote from: FermGael on June 11, 2010, 10:58:45 AM
I see some of the posters on here are thinking that fermanagh will be playing the swarm defence.  We will.
I think that Cavan are going to adapt the exact same tactic as Fermanagh and will hope(like last year) that Johnston and Mackey will be the difference.
It's going to be awful to watch.

Where is decent to watch the world cup after the match is over??
I am refusing to go to the imperial because the price of a pint in it is a joke.
You would get cheaper in Dublin

Breffni Inn is the place to go! You will be treated like royalty in there  :D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on June 11, 2010, 11:12:23 AM
Jaysus I can't wait for tomorrow... getting giddy here even thinking about it.   ;D

No matter whether both teams employ a swarm defence or not that sort of game still can be entertaining - but no doubt Cavan and Fermanagh will be slated regardless by Spaillane and co if they produce anything short of the greatest game ever played.

A lot has been said already about the line up etc so I'm not gonna bother but bascially if mid field can win enough ball for Johnston and Mackey inside with Nesty hopefully controlling the forward on the '40 we will be there or there abouts.

I will admit to not knowing a helluva lot about Fermanagh but at the same time, when I heard their team this morning, there are a good few boys on it who would be familiar to most... Ronan Gallagher, Ryan McCluskey, James Sherry, Marty McGrath, David Keenan, Mark Little and our own Rory Gallagher.  Fermanagh are gonna be very dangerous, seriously waiting in the long grass here...
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on June 11, 2010, 11:34:07 AM
Quote from: tierworker blue on June 10, 2010, 11:55:13 PM
Quote from: Denn Forever on June 10, 2010, 05:12:39 PM
Great win and I see from Hoganstand that they will be playing Louth in the Final in Croke Park. 

Hopefully this will be only our first visit to Croke Park this year.

When is that final?

27th June I think.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on June 11, 2010, 11:46:12 AM
Quote from: Denn Forever on June 11, 2010, 11:34:07 AM
Quote from: tierworker blue on June 10, 2010, 11:55:13 PM
Quote from: Denn Forever on June 10, 2010, 05:12:39 PM
Great win and I see from Hoganstand that they will be playing Louth in the Final in Croke Park. 

Hopefully this will be only our first visit to Croke Park this year.

When is that final?

27th June I think.

Nope it's changed, it was meant to be the 27th as part of a triple header with the two Leinster semi finals but because Peter Fitzpatrick is over Louth Senior and Juniors, the Junior game can't be on the same day as the Louth Seniors semi final.  Doubt it will be in Croker now
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on June 11, 2010, 12:01:19 PM
Quote from: FermGael on June 11, 2010, 10:58:45 AM

Where is decent to watch the world cup after the match is over??
I am refusing to go to the imperial because the price of a pint in it is a joke.
You would get cheaper in Dublin

How about the Meadowview out the Dublin Road or the Kesh out the Ballinagh Road?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BigMac on June 11, 2010, 02:54:14 PM
Another quitter. I cant understand lads putting in all that effort all year and then the day before the championship quitting the panel. Im surprised at Cullivan, I know he probably thinks he is deserving of a place (and hes probably right), but he should know that hes not always going to get what he wants. Unless he changes his mind, and Tommy lets him back, he will be a loss, as I do think he would have been used at some stage tomorrow, and in the monaghan/qualifier game.
From the Hoganstand:
Ray Cullivan has withdrawn himself from the Cavan squad after being left out of the starting team for Saturday's Ulster SFC quarter-final against Fermanagh.

Cullivan, who was a focal point in DCU's Sigerson Cup success earlier this year, played a minimal part in the Breffni County's past National Football League campaign but was thought to be in line for a start for the showdown with the Erne men.

However, with the recent return of ace forward Sean Johnston from injury, the 21-year-old Ballyhaise man was named among the substitutes when Carr announced his team on Tuesday and since that time Cullivan has opted to quit the panel.

Cavan play Fermanagh in their provincial championship opener tomorrow at Kingspan Breffni Park (throw-in 5.15pm).
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4sam on June 11, 2010, 03:24:06 PM
Id like to hear from BHMan, what do you think of this decision by Ray? Im only asking as you know him better than any of us. I didn't think that he was the type to throw his toys out of the pram.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on June 11, 2010, 03:39:59 PM
Is this another smokescreen from Hoganstand a la Sean Johnson going for another operation.  Hope so.

Is there a game before the main event?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on June 11, 2010, 03:44:35 PM
Seriously disappointing if true. Won't say too much as perhaps BH Man has a more revealing inside line on it, but if this is nothing more than a brattish reaction to not getting his place, then cheerio as far as I'm concerned.

It's a team game and if he has so much overflowing belief in how deserving he is of a place, why not hang around to show it on the field like he should when he inevitably got brought on as a sub at some stage? Why cough up a year's training in the blink of an eye?

This sort of stuff really annoys me, I know he's highly regarded by some but Cullivan still has it all to prove in the Cavan jersey so where the superstar complex is coming from is beyond me.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on June 11, 2010, 03:44:46 PM
I hope that is bullshit becuase unless Carr has done something outrageous then it would be a disgraceful decision by Cullivan and to be honest I never would have put him down as a guy that would do this, especially the day before the game.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on June 11, 2010, 03:45:21 PM
Quote from: cavan4sam on June 11, 2010, 03:24:06 PM
Id like to hear from BHMan, what do you think of this decision by Ray? Im only asking as you know him better than any of us. I didn't think that he was the type to throw his toys out of the pram.

Its disappointing C4Sam,
Ray's a very competitive lad who eats,drinks and breaths football,im very very suprised at this.
im sure he was gutted not to be starting,as  few players in the county look after themselves better and train as hard as Ray.
i dont think we've heard the full story here.
im based in dublin during the week so wouldnt hear the gossip from home,il be informed tonight at training and then il pass it on via pm.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4sam on June 11, 2010, 03:52:11 PM
Cheers BHMan, if i hear anything from any of the lads ill fill you in.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on June 11, 2010, 03:57:25 PM
Holy jaysus... that is some stunt if 100% true... hope it doesn't disrupt things too much
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on June 11, 2010, 05:21:40 PM
He is hardly joining the exodus to USA? That is the first thing that came to my mind because its a strange strange time to quit the panel..
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BigMac on June 11, 2010, 05:29:06 PM
I automatically thought he might be heading abroad as well. This is becoming an all to familiar scenario in cavan football. Johnson and Cahill left the panel after we got knocked out a few year ago, Lyng left because he didnt get to play in his favorite position, Podge left, etc etc. I cant understand where these lads get the impression that they are superstars and deserve their place.
Does anyone know how the news broke to the media? Did Cullivan tell someone or did Tommy ring RTE?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: sams the aim on June 11, 2010, 06:06:47 PM
dnt think it is a smoke screen denn man unfortunately either was d other one thou he has put off another operation to try and play according to members of the panel. hope d cullivan incident gets sorted
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on June 11, 2010, 06:21:18 PM
Quote from: put-it-up on June 11, 2010, 05:21:40 PM
He is hardly joining the exodus to USA? That is the first thing that came to my mind because its a strange strange time to quit the panel..

i f**kin hope not!!!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: full moon on June 11, 2010, 08:13:38 PM
Well it is obvious Cullivan deserves to get playing. He doesn't strike me as arrogant at all though unlike most of the other players who have quit the panel.

Tommy Carr - The Raymond Domenach of inter county management.  ::)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on June 11, 2010, 08:38:23 PM
I doubt even Tommy would be foolish enough to play lads by their star sign. That Domenech is a bigger clown that Krusty. Anyway I know Ray, and he wouldn't be a quitter.In fact he is seriously committed to his football. I just don't understand why he has quit now because he would
have come on tomorrow and could have shown what he can do. Personally i would start him ahead of Brennan but that's just me.

Just want to clear up that I have no idea why he quit and I am purely speculating. I just thought it would make it more logical if he decided to go travelling for the summer. You never know, he might have wanted to go all along and missing out on the Starting XV might have just pushed him over the edge - especially if friends and that have already gone. Other than that, there must have been a row of some sort. Because I doubt he would quit if he was planning to sit at home all Summer.

McGrath and Sherry midfield at tomorrow. Now, we will see just where Givney is at this stage of his career. Big test for the lad and i hope were not relying on him too much to win that battle.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: full moon on June 11, 2010, 08:54:06 PM
I don't like to slag off players but lets be honest our midfield is a disgrace for county level. We are basically depending on Givney tomorrow, a 20 year old.

Ciaran Galligan is a joke, Walsh is just an agitator and Mulvey has had plenty of chances already.

I don't know about anyone else but I would have stuck Cullivan in there ahead of Galligan. Cullivan may be short but he has an amazing jump. At least he can run and can catch a ball.

We won't know the reasons but maybe he feels hard done by when he sees inferior players starting ahead of him.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on June 11, 2010, 09:20:44 PM
Quote from: full moon on June 11, 2010, 08:54:06 PM
I don't like to slag off players but lets be honest our midfield is a disgrace for county level. We are basically depending on Givney tomorrow, a 20 year old.

Ciaran Galligan is a joke, Walsh is just an agitator and Mulvey has had plenty of chances already.

I don't know about anyone else but I would have stuck Cullivan in there ahead of Galligan. Cullivan may be short but he has an amazing jump. At least he can run and can catch a ball.

We won't know the reasons but maybe he feels hard done by when he sees inferior players starting ahead of him.

Got to disagree with you on Galligan - he is not a joke. Look management is about getting the most out of your resources and trying to get them to exceed their own levels of expectation. Is Galligan skillful? no. Is he ever going to be the world's best footballer? no. But he is fit, has a good engine and is more importantly, willing to empty it. Yeah, he is a limited player, but you make the most of his strengths. Don't let what you can't do effect what you can do! Midfield is about competing and if he gives the ball off quickly to lads that can score I think he is the best man we can have beside Givney because he will to do a lot more donkey work than say, Mulvey. I think it is ridiculous to call someone a joke, when he busts his gut four or so nights a week to ensure he is in good condition when he pulls on the jersey. Considering the midfield Fermanagh have and their size, deploying Cullivan there wouldn't make much sense.

I don't think Cullivan should have quit I am sure he would have featured at some stage tomorrow. The only thing I will say, is at least he opted out instead of sitting on the bench tomorrow and being a negative effect on the atmosphere and hoping lads play shite!!!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4sam on June 11, 2010, 09:23:49 PM
full moon, I think you are being very harsh on Ciaran Galligan there, he is the best athlete we have at midfield and will cover every blade of grass on Breffni Park tomorrow evening. He is a lso a big man at 6 4 and to be honest it would be a joke to have Cullivan playin midfield in an Ulster Championship game at 5 10. He might be a great midfielder at club level but there is a massive difference between being a good midfielder at division 2 club football and Ulster Championship football.

Now Im not saying that I wouldn't have had Cullivan starting, personally I would have had him at full forward.

Lads forget about this until the details come out, if there are any details, and get behind the lads who will pull on the blue jersey tomorrow.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on June 11, 2010, 10:47:25 PM
Quote from: full moon on June 11, 2010, 08:54:06 PM
I don't like to slag off players but lets be honest our midfield is a disgrace for county level. We are basically depending on Givney tomorrow, a 20 year old.

Ciaran Galligan is a joke, Walsh is just an agitator and Mulvey has had plenty of chances already.

I don't know about anyone else but I would have stuck Cullivan in there ahead of Galligan. Cullivan may be short but he has an amazing jump. At least he can run and can catch a ball.

We won't know the reasons but maybe he feels hard done by when he sees inferior players starting ahead of him.

Totally uncalled for stupid Hoganstand-esque comment. Galligan by all accounts is a dedicated lad, is fit and tries his best. Cullivan is a player I admire but is short short inches for midfield but he would have played a part on Saturday he had stayed on the panel. I hope if he reads this forum he might reconsider as this is a serious step he is taking.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: full moon on June 11, 2010, 10:56:02 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on June 11, 2010, 10:47:25 PM
Quote from: full moon on June 11, 2010, 08:54:06 PM
I don't like to slag off players but lets be honest our midfield is a disgrace for county level. We are basically depending on Givney tomorrow, a 20 year old.

Ciaran Galligan is a joke, Walsh is just an agitator and Mulvey has had plenty of chances already.

I don't know about anyone else but I would have stuck Cullivan in there ahead of Galligan. Cullivan may be short but he has an amazing jump. At least he can run and can catch a ball.

We won't know the reasons but maybe he feels hard done by when he sees inferior players starting ahead of him.

Totally uncalled for stupid Hoganstand-esque comment. Galligan by all accounts is a dedicated lad, is fit and tries his best. Cullivan is a player I admire but is short short inches for midfield but he would have played a part on Saturday he had stayed on the panel. I hope if he reads this forum he might reconsider as this is a serious step he is taking.

Come on now, dedicated, fit and tries his best. If that is the best anyone can come up with it says it all.
This is the Ulster Championship not some division 3 club game.

He isn't up to it. If any half decent team played us they would walk over us in midfield.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: full moon on June 11, 2010, 10:58:41 PM
Quote from: cavan4sam on June 11, 2010, 09:23:49 PM
. He might be a great midfielder at club level but there is a massive difference between being a good midfielder at division 2 club football and Ulster Championship football.

Funny enough you are talking about Cullivan here but it could also be applied to Galligan. Except maybe replaced good with average.

No point beating around the bush. I have nothing against the guy, just an opinion on his football ability.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on June 11, 2010, 11:08:01 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on June 11, 2010, 10:47:25 PM
Quote from: full moon on June 11, 2010, 08:54:06 PM
I don't like to slag off players but lets be honest our midfield is a disgrace for county level. We are basically depending on Givney tomorrow, a 20 year old.

Ciaran Galligan is a joke, Walsh is just an agitator and Mulvey has had plenty of chances already.

I don't know about anyone else but I would have stuck Cullivan in there ahead of Galligan. Cullivan may be short but he has an amazing jump. At least he can run and can catch a ball.

We won't know the reasons but maybe he feels hard done by when he sees inferior players starting ahead of him.

Totally uncalled for stupid Hoganstand-esque comment. Galligan by all accounts is a dedicated lad, is fit and tries his best. Cullivan is a player I admire but is short short inches for midfield but he would have played a part on Saturday he had stayed on the panel. I hope if he reads this forum he might reconsider as this is a serious step he is taking.

You think that is bad? you should see what is being said on facebook about Cullivan if any of you boys are up with the times  ;D :P

It's shocking stuff and I've already reported it for abuse.Not going to put the link up here. That would just give the stupid, immature, clueless little kids that commented on the status what they want. I'll PM the link if any of you want to see it. Thank feck most people on here have sense and dont put up posts with them on the county minor team..

Little bollixes.

And Full Moon, whether you like it or not he is the best available midfielder we have got to partner Givney. IT'S time supporters stopped living in fantasy land and realised where we are at at the minute. If your gonna flag-up problems, at least try come up with solutions. It's too easy to say he is shite.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on June 11, 2010, 11:13:01 PM
Quote from: full moon on June 11, 2010, 10:58:41 PM
Quote from: cavan4sam on June 11, 2010, 09:23:49 PM
. He might be a great midfielder at club level but there is a massive difference between being a good midfielder at division 2 club football and Ulster Championship football.

Funny enough you are talking about Cullivan here but it could also be applied to Galligan. Except maybe replaced good with average.

No point beating around the bush. I have nothing against the guy, just an opinion on his football ability.

No Full Moon, you did not state an opinion on his footballing ability, you said he was a joke. Thats a personal insult on a lad that is doing is best and getting picked for it.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: full moon on June 11, 2010, 11:15:23 PM
I've seen those comments Put it Up.  I know the names of the "kids" involved.  Most of them just taking the piss.
It is pathetic though that they can get away with it. Anyway a few people are getting wound up, I wouldn't pay any attention it is just lads trying to get to people.

As one of them said, none of them would say it to his face that is damn sure. And if they did spout some of that bollocks I can picture what would happen to them... ;D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on June 11, 2010, 11:21:09 PM
Quote from: full moon on June 11, 2010, 11:15:23 PM
I've seen those comments Put it Up.  I know the names of the "kids" involved.  Most of them just taking the piss.
It is pathetic though that they can get away with it. Anyway a few people are getting wound up, I wouldn't pay any attention it is just lads trying to get to people.

As one of them said, none of them would say it to his face that is damn sure. And if they did spout some of that bollocks I can picture what would happen to them... ;D

Ah I don't care whether they are joking or not - it is just bad form. Would love to see any of them little runts try live the life of a county footballer. I guarantee you, not too many of them went to many league games either. Just pisses me off.

But yeah I would like to a see all them wee boys try take on Ray in the imperial at the same time. Then again I would presume they are in the Lavey or the Farnham ;)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: full moon on June 11, 2010, 11:26:11 PM
Quote from: put-it-up on June 11, 2010, 11:21:09 PM
Quote from: full moon on June 11, 2010, 11:15:23 PM
I've seen those comments Put it Up.  I know the names of the "kids" involved.  Most of them just taking the piss.
It is pathetic though that they can get away with it. Anyway a few people are getting wound up, I wouldn't pay any attention it is just lads trying to get to people.

As one of them said, none of them would say it to his face that is damn sure. And if they did spout some of that bollocks I can picture what would happen to them... ;D

Ah I don't care whether they are joking or not - it is just bad form. Would love to see any of them little runts try live the life of a county footballer. I guarantee you, not too many of them went to many league games either. Just pisses me off.

But yeah I would like to a see all them wee boys try take on Ray in the imperial at the same time. Then again I would presume they are in the Lavey or the Farnham ;)

Definitely.  :)

It's all point scoring with them. They see it as a chance to put down another club and gain one up on someone else.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on June 11, 2010, 11:30:01 PM
Lads, ye are ALL much closer to this than I am so can you remind me. DCU have such a wealth of talent that they fielded two teams earlier this year, seconds in O Byrne Cup and main men in Sigerson. In the Sigerson Flanagan and Dermot Sheridan were the main men, Johnston was injured and Lyng and Cullivan didn't tend to get selected. Now maybe Ray had injury problems but can somebody come back to me on that. If the lad was a bit iffy about making a college team we should not get too hung up about tomorrow, pretty poor timing mind.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on June 11, 2010, 11:38:51 PM
Quote from: full moon on June 11, 2010, 11:26:11 PM
Quote from: put-it-up on June 11, 2010, 11:21:09 PM
Quote from: full moon on June 11, 2010, 11:15:23 PM
I've seen those comments Put it Up.  I know the names of the "kids" involved.  Most of them just taking the piss.
It is pathetic though that they can get away with it. Anyway a few people are getting wound up, I wouldn't pay any attention it is just lads trying to get to people.

As one of them said, none of them would say it to his face that is damn sure. And if they did spout some of that bollocks I can picture what would happen to them... ;D

Ah I don't care whether they are joking or not - it is just bad form. Would love to see any of them little runts try live the life of a county footballer. I guarantee you, not too many of them went to many league games either. Just pisses me off.

But yeah I would like to a see all them wee boys try take on Ray in the imperial at the same time. Then again I would presume they are in the Lavey or the Farnham ;)

Definitely.  :)

It's all point scoring with them. They see it as a chance to put down another club and gain one up on someone else.

You sound like you have recently graduated from their ranks  ;) Your posts count doesn't help your case either!

What club are you anyway chief? I reckon TV will effect the crowd tomorrow.

ac39, Cullivan struggled with injury's and i am pretty sure he would have slotted in somewhere if it. I think DCU tried to move away from the 'Galactico's' era this year that failed them in the past, and the all the best players didn't necesarily play. Sum of the parts and all that jazz. Think that is why Lyng wasn't heavily involved. Ray is good and he would certainly make my team but he hasn't progressed all that much over the years. From his own point of view after all the injuries and that, a break might do him the world of good in the long-run.



Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on June 12, 2010, 01:16:01 AM
That's what mystifies me the most in all this. I'll be honest and say that I don't get to see the county team as often as I would like, but any time that I have, I've been fairly underwhelmed by Cullivan, so why he's curling the lip and taking his ball home in a sulk is beyond me. It's immature, it's bad team ethic, it's a sour note ater a fairly solid preparation free of disciplinary bullshit, our first for a long time.
He might play very well for Ballyhaise more often than not and may have the odd good game for county underage sides under his belt, but again, I saw a few of those too and didn't come away thinking he was anything super-special (someone correct me if I'm selling him short), so where's this burst of ego coming out of precisely? It's all very unfortunate.

On the Galligan debate above, I have many reservations about him too, but he's fit and dedicated and he's not keeping anyone better off the team as far as I can see so let him at it is what I say, and what will be will be.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Swadman on June 12, 2010, 12:08:23 PM
Full Moon, you make me howl  .......... but seriously, You bemoan the fact that we are depending on a 20 year old (he's 21), it doesn't matter. If you are good enough you are old enough. I have seen professional rugby teams put on 19 or 20 year olds. They are going on the sames premise " good enough is old enough"  It's Fermanagh not Kerry, let him at it. The alternatives are not obvious. Givney is good enough and seems to have a maturity beyond his age. Contrast that with the immaturity shown by the other panel member (ex-panel now).
Allez les Bleus
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on June 12, 2010, 12:15:06 PM
Ray is a natural midfielder,who is 2 inches too small to play the position at IC level.
His best position at IC level,is as a third option for kickouts at wing forward.
Hes played some very good games for the county,
Fermanagh last year in championship,
Came on this year in the league against one of (Offaly/Wexford/Fermanagh,cant remember which) and scored 0-2 from play to help us over the finish line.
Wicklow a few years ago in the league in Breffini was probably his best game at Senior IC level.
Ray has had an awful lot of injury problems,from cruciate ligaments to torn hamstrings,and hes missed an awful lot of action over the last 3 years since he made his debut under Keoghan/Grimley.
Hes just about finished in DCU,which i think will be good for club and county,in that it will let him rest during the winter months.
PIU,
whats this about lads posting stuff about Ray on facebook? Pm me if you cant say on here
Was it to him?
He wouldnt exactly be the lad that you would want to talk shite to,especially if you were going to meet him on the football field in the future.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on June 12, 2010, 12:48:13 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on June 12, 2010, 12:15:06 PM
Ray is a natural midfielder,who is 2 inches too small to play the position at IC level.
His best position at IC level,is as a third option for kickouts at wing forward.
Hes played some very good games for the county,
Fermanagh last year in championship,
Came on this year in the league against one of (Offaly/Wexford/Fermanagh,cant remember which) and scored 0-2 from play to help us over the finish line.
Wicklow a few years ago in the league in Breffini was probably his best game at Senior IC level.
Ray has had an awful lot of injury problems,from cruciate ligaments to torn hamstrings,and hes missed an awful lot of action over the last 3 years since he made his debut under Keoghan/Grimley.
Hes just about finished in DCU,which i think will be good for club and county,in that it will let him rest during the winter months.
PIU,
whats this about lads posting stuff about Ray on facebook? Pm me if you cant say on here
Was it to him?
He wouldnt exactly be the lad that you would want to talk shite to,especially if you were going to meet him on the football field in the future.

Forget the field, I would be more worried bumping into him in thee imperial but honestly the little shites are about 14 and think they are great, so they will have to stick to Lavey for a few years ::)

PM'd you there.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dougal on June 12, 2010, 01:20:08 PM
i know of one of the lads that was giving ray the most abuse,and he's alot more than 14.i dont know ray,but he doesnt seem like the kind of lad that would just quit because he didnt get starting.hes a good player,and id rate him above brennan as a FF,but i dont think hes an intercounty midfielder,and doesnt have the height to ever be a good one.hopefully he'll reconsider because if he's not starting games he's a great option to bring on from the bench.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on June 12, 2010, 01:25:05 PM
All gonna bother talking about Cullivan till I know more.. but it goes without saying that I'm disappointed he isn't there to come off the bench.

I can't wait for the game now... excitment building up big time.  I just hope we get the win and hopefully a good performance too. Best of luck lads
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on June 12, 2010, 01:29:19 PM
All gonna bother talking about Cullivan till I know more.. but it goes without saying that I'm disappointed he isn't there to come off the bench.

I can't wait for the game now... excitment building up big time.  I just hope we get the win and hopefully a good performance too. Best of luck lads
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on June 12, 2010, 07:34:02 PM
Well that went well  ::)

angry opinions on the game to follow....
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on June 12, 2010, 07:57:36 PM
I honestly just don't know what to say anymore. Felt a little depressed driving home. First half was quite positive, although we shoulda been a few more ahead. The second half just left me scratching my head.

First of all, I just want to make it clear, I don't doubt any of the lads commitment or dedication to a Cavan jersey. I know the hours they put in from December and it ain't for the light-hearted. The problem is, there really is no self-belief in that camp and the million dollar question is what or who do you get to change that. Once again when it came to the crunch, we crumbled.

Did anyone honestly expect to come back after the goal. Indeed, as soon as the short kickout went wrong and Fermanagh pulled four clear the ref may have blown his whistle for full-time. It was game over. TC's time is up I would imagine aswell. You can talk and talk about team-spirit but that didn't shine through. Once Fermanagh start controlling the second half, the Cavan attack became a group of individuals rather than a unit. The game-plan fell apart and Cavan were back to a ruderless ship. Nesty tried but had nobody to kick to and Givney is gona be our man for quite a few years.  Mackey needs to be told to stop kicking it with his left foot! And I also thought Carr was far to slow in putting Givney on the square when things were going wrong. We had Jelly and Mackey being marked and then two lads sitting in front of them for about ten minutes. Now how in the name are you meant to pick them out. I woulda introduced McKiernan for a bit of muscle and a target and givin them something else to worry about.

Qualifiers this year already contain Armagh, Derry, Kildare, Cork/Kerry, Mayo, so I can't see us making too many inroads there. I just gona try delete that performance from my memory I think. Worst team in Ulster now. What are we gonna do to turn this around...
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on June 12, 2010, 08:35:48 PM
Agree with you PIU
Fintan Reily,kickouts were good with the exception of one which resulted in a point in the 2nd half.
Martin Cahill and Dermot Sheridan were roasted,
Mossy Corr i thought battled abely ,so much ball was going in,eventually,one ball was going to fall right for Carson.
Alan Clarke was off the pace,you cant expect a guy who played no league football,to be up to the speed at championship level,hes worth sticking with though.
Eoin McGuigan done ok,It wasnt his fault,Fermanagh had lose men running all over the place.
Gunner was terrific i thought,he was one of the few cavanmen that won breaks and he cleaned up around there.
David Givney was good,kicked two points,two clean catches and battled well,but he had no support,Ciaran Galligan just wasnt in the game,im afraid its about time,we end the Galligan experiment.
Ronan Flanagan,his man Tommy McElroy done a sight of harm coming forward,although he himself played alot of football.
Nesty,2 great frees,he played well except for shot selection a few times,although he was nearly forced to kick,as he had no outlets and no support.
Cian Mackey,well he had a complete offday,nothing went right, a few wides and dropped 3 into the goalkeepers hands.
Michael Brennan,Done really well the first half,scored two great points,starved of posession in the 2nd half until he was replaced.
Jelly,was dangerous as usual,but took the wrong option a few times,scored a great point in the first half.

Subs
Martin Reily,
He got blocked down and then handpassed over Nesty's head.
his future on the panel must surely be in doubt.

Lorcan Mulvey,threw himself around in 10 minutes more than Galligan did the whole game,should have been on to compete with Marty McGrath and co,sooner.

Michael Hannon,should have started IMO.

Lads old failings shone through again,
Midfield battle was lost,
Givney was fighting a battle against two men in McGrath and Sherry,
5/6 balls dropped short into keepers hands.
Wrong shot selection.
STILL NO IDEA how to counteract the blanket defensive system,when McGrath and another Fermanagh player dropped deep in the 2nd half.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on June 12, 2010, 08:40:27 PM
That went pretty much as I expected it to.

Agree with most of your comments Put-it-up, I thought we had a reasonable first half but only during the period when we were on top around the middle, any time Fermanagh got past there and worked the ball in, our defence looked all at sea.

Cahill was clearly unfit and beaten to the first three balls in and spent the game struggling, how he survived without being subbed is beyond me. Corr was very poor at fullback as well, any time a high ball went in he looked in trouble and a combination of these two lead to the goal, it seemed to me both panicked and went for the ball in and left their man free. Schoolboy stuff and that was the score that ended the game effectively, the point after it just put the tin hat on it. In the previous play we had equalised at 0-12 apiece and were still in it.

Sheridan doesn't belong in the last line of defence either and should be at wing-back, end of, he really didn't cover himself in glory either.

As expected, Fermanagh turned up to pack the defence and in the second half especially we had simply no clue what to do and whatever gameplan we were supposed to have unravelled totally, just as against Antrim last year. We were just huffing and puffing and hadn't a notion, overhitting hand and foot passes, unforced errors, there was no pattern at all and it was both familiar and depressing to look at. In fairness, credit to Fermanagh here, if we'd defended like they did or were able to (how many kicks did we get blocked down?) we'd be delighted with it, so hats off in that regard.

Once the goal went in Fermanagh just pulled and dragged around the middle to kill the game off, they truly are an eyesore on the game at times (not that Cavan are any great decoration either but that's more through rank incompetence than intentional tactics) but the rules aren't there to prevent teams playing like this because the GAA are more worried about cosmetic nonsense like handpasses and so on when the real blights of the game are going unaddressed. That's not sour grapes, Fermanagh deserved to win and good luck to them.

Bright points? Givney looked decent until Marty McGrath stuck his knee into his back going up for a high ball in the first half, Galligan looked ok the first half too but was anonymous in the second. Nesty has a nice left foot and is a solid free-taker but needs to pass more often and not take on silly shots. Gunner worked hard. Seanie kicked some nice scores but got no service in the second half. Brennan had a decent first half too.

On the minus side Mackey was atrocious apart from one point he kicked in the first half, frequently took the wrong option and tried to justify his reputation every time he got the ball. His left foot is clearly just for standing on and if forced on to it he should lay off, one great opening in the first half was spurned when he didn't pass to Brennan and instead dropped short with his left, very poor. Alan Clarke did nothing for me. We have a fairly weak midfield, and no fullback, and a manager that's extremely slow to change things on the sideline. Taking off the cornerforward (Brennan) when the problems were anywhere but in the forward line just took the biscuit for me.

All in all, we were playing one of the poorer teams in the country along with ourselves and we looked brutal in that second half, like a total rabble. I will not fault the effort or dedication of those lad who went out to play for Cavan tonight and genuinely gave their best but we haven't progressed one jot from the Antrim game last year and will get short shrift in the qualifiers, irrespective of the opposition. Clare or Waterford would beat that Cavan side there today no problems.

Tommy Carr is clearly going nowhere with this team now and will inevitably make way when we get dumped in the qualifiers, although how much better we will do without him is not something I'd even bother contemplating at this stage. Our county senior side is as bad now as I ever can remember, and I was around for that long winless streak pre-1995.

Finally, a word on the referee. Brutal I thought, real neighbouring county referee if ever there was. Not the reason we lost at all, mind you, but Fermanagh got soft frees all day whereas Cavan had to be half-killed. The only thing that went our way was when he didn't book Galligan in the second half for a late tackle in the midfield that would have been his second and a red. And then when the contest was over, suddenly Cavan started getting every free. Pat Fox = CocUnNuT. ;D

Still, shit happens. Harbour no expectations, suffer no disappointments. And on that note, to the pub.



Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on June 12, 2010, 08:58:51 PM
Quote from: cavanmaniac on June 12, 2010, 08:40:27 PM
That went pretty much as I expected it to.

Agree with most of your comments Put-it-up, I thought we had a reasonable first half but only during the period when we were on top around the middle, any time Fermanagh got past there and worked the ball in, our defence looked all at sea.

Cahill was clearly unfit and beaten to the first three balls in and spent the game struggling, how he survived without being subbed is beyond me. Corr was very poor at fullback as well, any time a high ball went in he looked in trouble and a combination of these two lead to the goal, it seemed to me both panicked and went for the ball in and left their man free. Schoolboy stuff and that was the score that ended the game effectively, the point after it just put the tin hat on it. In the previous play we had equalised at 0-12 apiece and were still in it.

Sheridan doesn't belong in the last line of defence either and should be at wing-back, end of, he really didn't cover himself in glory either.

As expected, Fermanagh turned up to pack the defence and in the second half especially we had simply no clue what to do and whatever gameplan we were supposed to have unravelled totally, just as against Antrim last year. We were just huffing and puffing and hadn't a notion, overhitting hand and foot passes, unforced errors, there was no pattern at all and it was both familiar and depressing to look at. In fairness, credit to Fermanagh here, if we'd defended like they did or were able to (how many kicks did we get blocked down?) we'd be delighted with it, so hats off in that regard.

Once the goal went in Fermanagh just pulled and dragged around the middle to kill the game off, they truly are an eyesore on the game at times (not that Cavan are any great decoration either but that's more through rank incompetence than intentional tactics) but the rules aren't there to prevent teams playing like this because the GAA are more worried about cosmetic nonsense like handpasses and so on when the real blights of the game are going unaddressed. That's not sour grapes, Fermanagh deserved to win and good luck to them.

Bright points? Givney looked decent until Marty McGrath stuck his knee into his back going up for a high ball in the first half, Galligan looked ok the first half too but was anonymous in the second. Nesty has a nice left foot and is a solid free-taker but needs to pass more often and not take on silly shots. Gunner worked hard. Seanie kicked some nice scores but got no service in the second half. Brennan had a decent first half too.

On the minus side Mackey was atrocious apart from one point he kicked in the first half, frequently took the wrong option and tried to justify his reputation every time he got the ball. His left foot is clearly just for standing on and if forced on to it he should lay off, one great opening in the first half was spurned when he didn't pass to Brennan and instead dropped short with his left, very poor. Alan Clarke did nothing for me. We have a fairly weak midfield, and no fullback, and a manager that's extremely slow to change things on the sideline. Taking off the cornerforward (Brennan) when the problems were anywhere but in the forward line just took the biscuit for me.

All in all, we were playing one of the poorer teams in the country along with ourselves and we looked brutal in that second half, like a total rabble. I will not fault the effort or dedication of those lad who went out to play for Cavan tonight and genuinely gave their best but we haven't progressed one jot from the Antrim game last year and will get short shrift in the qualifiers, irrespective of the opposition. Clare or Waterford would beat that Cavan side there today no problems.

Tommy Carr is clearly going nowhere with this team now and will inevitably make way when we get dumped in the qualifiers, although how much better we will do without him is not something I'd even bother contemplating at this stage. Our county senior side is as bad now as I ever can remember, and I was around for that long winless streak pre-1995.

Finally, a word on the referee. Brutal I thought, real neighbouring county referee if ever there was. Not the reason we lost at all, mind you, but Fermanagh got soft frees all day whereas Cavan had to be half-killed. The only thing that went our way was when he didn't book Galligan in the second half for a late tackle in the midfield that would have been his second and a red. And then when the contest was over, suddenly Cavan started getting every free. Pat Fox = CocUnNuT. ;D

Still, shit happens. Harbour no expectations, suffer no disappointments. And on that note, to the pub.

in fairness to Nesty he hadn't a sinner to kick the ball too. Was very happy with his shift. Tried hard and a great footballing brain.

Also agree with boy you boy's. I would have had Hannon cornerback and had Sheridan WB. He is much more at home there. Cahill and Mackey were woeful and lasted the full game.

The fact is the best 15 players in Cavan were not representing Cavan today. That's not the lads that were out theres fault either. They are the ones doing all the hard work and busting a gut to play for Cavan so I will never say they don't deserve to be there when others with better ability don't want to.

A new manager is needed, with a better backroom team, and genuine effort has to be put into a)getting certain club players involved and b)genuinely start introducing u21's to the scene. I dont mean start the whole lot of them, but a couple of them would benefit greatly from a few minutes here and there. There were two of this year's u21's in the whole panel today. Then again most of them are in the states so that shows the incentive they got to go into the set-up. I also know how much time players spend conditon themselves through weights and that. It sound too simple, but surely if we spent the same amount of time working on the basics, cos we were lacking in them in some departments today, that might help a litte bit.

Cavan football at senior level is as low as it has ever been. It is going to take one hell of a manager to turn it around.

And although it wasn't the ref's fault we lost - Jesus he was much. Swore it was Stevie Wonder out there at one stage trying to play a song with a whistle  ;D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on June 12, 2010, 09:00:51 PM
Absolutely gutted.. think that all I can manage at the minute
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on June 12, 2010, 09:01:13 PM
We should just do like Fermanagh done in the 2nd half,every game,
Bunch the whole midfield and defensive area and turn the game into a dogfight and hope we can struggle over the line with scores from Jelly,Mackey and Nesty.
Because this style of play and our lack of midfield options(outside Givney),is leaving us too open and vulnerable at the back.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on June 12, 2010, 09:12:00 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on June 12, 2010, 09:01:13 PM
We should just do like Fermanagh done in the 2nd half,every game,
Bunch the whole midfield and defensive area and turn the game into a dogfight and hope we can struggle over the line with scores from Jelly,Mackey and Nesty.
Because this style of play and our lack of midfield options(outside Givney),is leaving us too open and vulnerable at the back.

Ah I don't really buy that BH man and just because we cant beat them doesn't mean we should join them. That style works for Fermanagh and it can be effective but it doesn't necessarily mean it will work for us. Carr has had our team boss for two years and I still see no sign of a game-plan or style of play.It's down to a manager to devise a system that his players can implement and work with to maximise resources.

The fact is, nearly every team, including Kerry, use some sort of blanket defence. The Key is breaking quickly and effectively. Our wing-forwards Fla and McKeever are ideal to get back and play that game. That is not what I would do playing Fermanagh. I'd work hard on some kind of system that will crack them. Admittedely if I was going to play Monaghan then I would play defensive.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on June 12, 2010, 09:24:30 PM
And I don't care what anyone says, we have a few good players. I've seen Sheridan play with DCU, Martin Reilly with DIT and they are as good as anyone at that level. It's just when they play with Cavan there is no confidence, no believe.

Ah enough of this talkign shite, I need a pint.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on June 12, 2010, 09:30:04 PM
Quote from: put-it-up on June 12, 2010, 09:24:30 PM
And I don't care what anyone says, we have a few good players. I've seen Sheridan play with DCU, Martin Reilly with DIT and they are as good as anyone at that level. It's just when they play with Cavan there is no confidence, no believe.

Ah enough of this talkign shite, I need a pint.
or ten... oh wait league games tomorrow >:( >:(
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on June 12, 2010, 09:39:16 PM
Quote from: Celt_Man on June 12, 2010, 09:30:04 PM
Quote from: put-it-up on June 12, 2010, 09:24:30 PM
And I don't care what anyone says, we have a few good players. I've seen Sheridan play with DCU, Martin Reilly with DIT and they are as good as anyone at that level. It's just when they play with Cavan there is no confidence, no believe.

Ah enough of this talkign shite, I need a pint.
or ten... oh wait league games tomorrow >:( >:(

Being injured has one plus  ;D I joke
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: full moon on June 12, 2010, 10:18:30 PM
People are saying sack the manager etc, surely he will resign/go at the end of the year anyway but that isn't the point.

There is something seriously wrong in Cavan football. Without question we got the easiest draw we possibley could have for the 2nd year in a row. Carr is in the job 2 years now, what have we got to show for it? Being knocked of the Ulster Championship at home to Fermanagh and losing to Antrim in a semi final. Things have got to the stage were we are a long way behind Antrim. Antrim for god sake!

I don't care what anyone says, that line up today is filled with alot of absolutely average players who are not county standard. The fact is we have about 6-7 good players and after that the standard is very poor.

Nesty
Givney
Jelly
Sheridan
Gunner
Brennan
McGuigan

7 players there that I would say are definitely as good as most other counties around our level. After that in opinion the level is absolutely dire.

When is the last time Mackey performed in a Cavan jersey? Not upto it, too light and not good enough corner forward.

Flanagan,McKeever two guys who contributed nothing. Don't care what Flanagan has done for his Dublin college, what has he done for Cavan? 

Where are they guys who defended Galligan?

I'm sorry but we are a stage when lads like those mentioned above are FIXTURES in the county team. Regular starters every year, and yet fail to deliver come Championship time.

Others like Cahill, Reilly the GK, Clare, Mossy Corr, Martin Reilly. Defend them all you want they were not upto standard today and most of them aren't up to standard at all.

The fact is, the manager may not be the best but the players are just not there and have not been for several years.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on June 12, 2010, 10:25:36 PM
Quote from: full moon on June 12, 2010, 10:18:30 PM
People are saying sack the manager etc, surely he will resign/go at the end of the year anyway but that isn't the point.

There is something seriously wrong in Cavan football. Without question we got the easiest draw we possibley could have for the 2nd year in a row. Carr is in the job 2 years now, what have we got to show for it? Being knocked of the Ulster Championship at home to Fermanagh and losing to Antrim in a semi final. Things have got to the stage were we are a long way behind Antrim. Antrim for god sake!

I don't care what anyone says, that line up today is filled with alot of absolutely average players who are not county standard. The fact is we have about 6-7 good players and after that the standard is very poor.

Nesty
Givney
Jelly
Sheridan
Gunner
Brennan
McGuigan

7 players there that I would say are definitely as good as most other counties around our level. After that in opinion the level is absolutely dire.

When is the last time Mackey performed in a Cavan jersey? Not upto it, too light and not good enough corner forward.

Flanagan,McKeever two guys who contributed nothing. Don't care what Flanagan has done for his Dublin college, what has he done for Cavan? 

Where are they guys who defended Galligan?

I'm sorry but we are a stage when lads like those mentioned above are FIXTURES in the county team. Regular starters every year, and yet fail to deliver come Championship time.

Others like Cahill, Reilly the GK, Clare, Mossy Corr, Martin Reilly. Defend them all you want they were not upto standard today and most of them aren't up to standard at all.

The fact is, the manager may not be the best but the players are just not there and have not been for several years.

Good post Full moon.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on June 12, 2010, 10:32:43 PM
I suspected this would happen but it is still hard to take. We were much the better team in the 1st half but thanks to that idiot of a ref Fermanagh went in 1 behind when it should have been 4. Some of the frees he gave them were pathetic, blowing Johnson for not taking a free after he had interupted him when he started to take it was a joke. I made it 4 14 yard frees he gave Fermanagh (so close even Ruairi Gallagher could score them). But the whole thing unravelled in the 2nd half. I think the lads on the field tried hard but the line is the problem here lads. Fermanagh put 2 sweepers back to stop cavan. At this point the game was crying out for a target man up front (mcKiernan or Ray Galligan) and what does Carr do  takes of the relatively big Brennan and replace him with Martin Reilly!! Our backs got eaten but the whole 1st half Fermanagh had space in abundance. The Cavan team were not hungry enough not tigerish like last year. The manager is a poor motivator and a poor tactician. Fermanagh are a mediocre team and I do believe player for player we are a better team yet they win the match.
I though Corr was ok, Cahill and Shierdan very poor. Clarke poor. Galligan was decent in the 1st half but did far too much flapping at the ball. He needs coaching cos he was inches higher than is opponent but seemed happy to stand behind him and flap a hand at the ball. For god sake man plough through him and catch the bloody thing. I wouldn't give up on him though. Nesty was excellent I thought, he wanted the ball. When they got the goal I seen him shouting and roaring for the ball - others went hiding. Mackey had a nightmare. Cant see us beating anyone in the back door. We need a new manager to inspire the team. It s a young team and this management is not good enough.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on June 12, 2010, 10:37:01 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on June 12, 2010, 10:25:36 PM
Quote from: full moon on June 12, 2010, 10:18:30 PM
People are saying sack the manager etc, surely he will resign/go at the end of the year anyway but that isn't the point.

There is something seriously wrong in Cavan football. Without question we got the easiest draw we possibley could have for the 2nd year in a row. Carr is in the job 2 years now, what have we got to show for it? Being knocked of the Ulster Championship at home to Fermanagh and losing to Antrim in a semi final. Things have got to the stage were we are a long way behind Antrim. Antrim for god sake!

I don't care what anyone says, that line up today is filled with alot of absolutely average players who are not county standard. The fact is we have about 6-7 good players and after that the standard is very poor.

Nesty
Givney
Jelly
Sheridan
Gunner
Brennan
McGuigan

7 players there that I would say are definitely as good as most other counties around our level. After that in opinion the level is absolutely dire.

When is the last time Mackey performed in a Cavan jersey? Not upto it, too light and not good enough corner forward.

Flanagan,McKeever two guys who contributed nothing. Don't care what Flanagan has done for his Dublin college, what has he done for Cavan? 

Where are they guys who defended Galligan?

I'm sorry but we are a stage when lads like those mentioned above are FIXTURES in the county team. Regular starters every year, and yet fail to deliver come Championship time.

Others like Cahill, Reilly the GK, Clare, Mossy Corr, Martin Reilly. Defend them all you want they were not upto standard today and most of them aren't up to standard at all.

The fact is, the manager may not be the best but the players are just not there and have not been for several years.

Good post Full moon.

BHM - I presume you are being sarcastic?

Full Moon is full of shite. Last time Mackey played well for Cavan - how about being our top scorer in the league this year or being man of the match against Fermanagh in championship last year. So basically everyone on the team is shite, can you suggest alternative players then? I am also amazed at the 6/7 "good" players you named. Jaysus, your that wired its a waste of timing typing anymore...
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: full moon on June 12, 2010, 10:45:51 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on June 12, 2010, 10:37:01 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on June 12, 2010, 10:25:36 PM
Quote from: full moon on June 12, 2010, 10:18:30 PM
People are saying sack the manager etc, surely he will resign/go at the end of the year anyway but that isn't the point.

There is something seriously wrong in Cavan football. Without question we got the easiest draw we possibley could have for the 2nd year in a row. Carr is in the job 2 years now, what have we got to show for it? Being knocked of the Ulster Championship at home to Fermanagh and losing to Antrim in a semi final. Things have got to the stage were we are a long way behind Antrim. Antrim for god sake!

I don't care what anyone says, that line up today is filled with alot of absolutely average players who are not county standard. The fact is we have about 6-7 good players and after that the standard is very poor.

Nesty
Givney
Jelly
Sheridan
Gunner
Brennan
McGuigan

7 players there that I would say are definitely as good as most other counties around our level. After that in opinion the level is absolutely dire.

When is the last time Mackey performed in a Cavan jersey? Not upto it, too light and not good enough corner forward.

Flanagan,McKeever two guys who contributed nothing. Don't care what Flanagan has done for his Dublin college, what has he done for Cavan? 

Where are they guys who defended Galligan?

I'm sorry but we are a stage when lads like those mentioned above are FIXTURES in the county team. Regular starters every year, and yet fail to deliver come Championship time.

Others like Cahill, Reilly the GK, Clare, Mossy Corr, Martin Reilly. Defend them all you want they were not upto standard today and most of them aren't up to standard at all.

The fact is, the manager may not be the best but the players are just not there and have not been for several years.

Good post Full moon.

BHM - I presume you are being sarcastic?

Full Moon is full of shite. Last time Mackey played well for Cavan - how about being our top scorer in the league this year or being man of the match against Fermanagh in championship last year. So basically everyone on the team is shite, can you suggest alternative players then? I am also amazed at the 6/7 "good" players you named. Jaysus, your that wired its a waste of timing typing anymore...

Mackey was brilliant today though wasn't he? Against one of the worst teams in Ireland, he couldn't get a kick of the ball.
Maybe he should be wing half forward, I don't know, but he shouldn't be in the corner.

I'm sorry but it is you who is deluded. You continue your tirade against the manager Tommy Carr. You probably said the same about Keoghan and previous managers.

Time to wake up, the players aren't there and haven't been for several years. You go on about these "young players". If you mean the likes of Mackey etc, they have been on the county seniors for several years and still we are embarrassed by Fermanagh at home.

You could have Mick O'Dwyer managing this group of players, and he wouldn't do alot better. Sure we might be Fermanagh but not the likes of Armagh,Down,Tyrone,Derry or Monaghan.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on June 13, 2010, 12:06:13 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on June 12, 2010, 10:37:01 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on June 12, 2010, 10:25:36 PM
Quote from: full moon on June 12, 2010, 10:18:30 PM
People are saying sack the manager etc, surely he will resign/go at the end of the year anyway but that isn't the point.

There is something seriously wrong in Cavan football. Without question we got the easiest draw we possibley could have for the 2nd year in a row. Carr is in the job 2 years now, what have we got to show for it? Being knocked of the Ulster Championship at home to Fermanagh and losing to Antrim in a semi final. Things have got to the stage were we are a long way behind Antrim. Antrim for god sake!

I don't care what anyone says, that line up today is filled with alot of absolutely average players who are not county standard. The fact is we have about 6-7 good players and after that the standard is very poor.

Nesty
Givney
Jelly
Sheridan
Gunner
Brennan
McGuigan

7 players there that I would say are definitely as good as most other counties around our level. After that in opinion the level is absolutely dire.

When is the last time Mackey performed in a Cavan jersey? Not upto it, too light and not good enough corner forward.

Flanagan,McKeever two guys who contributed nothing. Don't care what Flanagan has done for his Dublin college, what has he done for Cavan? 

Where are they guys who defended Galligan?

I'm sorry but we are a stage when lads like those mentioned above are FIXTURES in the county team. Regular starters every year, and yet fail to deliver come Championship time.

Others like Cahill, Reilly the GK, Clare, Mossy Corr, Martin Reilly. Defend them all you want they were not upto standard today and most of them aren't up to standard at all.

The fact is, the manager may not be the best but the players are just not there and have not been for several years.

Good post Full moon.

BHM - I presume you are being sarcastic?

Full Moon is full of shite. Last time Mackey played well for Cavan - how about being our top scorer in the league this year or being man of the match against Fermanagh in championship last year. So basically everyone on the team is shite, can you suggest alternative players then? I am also amazed at the 6/7 "good" players you named. Jaysus, your that wired its a waste of timing typing anymore...

I agree with elements of his post Myles,
Obviously not about Mackey, we would have been relegated without him this year,he was brilliant throughout the league,he just had an off-day,still a brilliant player.
What i do agree with him though,is that certain established players have done nothing to warrant their place in a numkber of years.
id also disagree with his list of good players however.
Dermot Sheridan wasnt good yesterday,he hasnt produced his DCU form for Cavan.
Id be having very hard looks at a number of starters yesterday as to whether they should warrant a place even in the panel in future
I think im going to just stop talking about the county team until next year,Its leaving me in a bad mood,and im sure im not alone there.
Bring on the Club championships.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on June 13, 2010, 12:19:03 PM
PS,last point
i think we should consider doing what Dublin done this year for next year
Disband the panel,and pick a whole new crop of players alongside the best of the current group.

bring lads like
Oisin Minagh,Kevin Tierney,Barry Reily,Gearoid McKiernan,Declan McKiernan etc into the team and let them have a go at it.

Also give fringe players like Eoin Smith etc of the Current group,a proper chance.

New Manager also needs to do whatever is necessary to get the Gaels lads into the panel.
Certain ex members in the know didnt commit because they werent impressed with what was being said about the set-up.
6/7 members of the current panel should be axed.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4sam on June 13, 2010, 01:25:22 PM
depressed.com

that is all
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: haranguerer on June 13, 2010, 01:27:32 PM
Ach its not all bad... :D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on June 13, 2010, 01:29:47 PM
I blame the referee for the whole lot. :P
Anybody know if the minor semi-final is the same weekend as the back-door?
I couldn't be arsed talking about the game itself. I've been at every competitive match this year and as this one was slipping away it just seemed like I couldn't give a shite. f**k it. Same old I'm afraid. Let the blame game and finger pointing begin.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on June 13, 2010, 01:31:26 PM
So this is where it all went wrong................


Cavan manager Tommy Carr said his side "never looked like scoring a goal".

"We had little time to react - the ball broke to them and ended up in the net - those are the small things that decide Championship games," he lamented.
:D :D :D :D :D :D :D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: beer baron on June 13, 2010, 02:42:25 PM
Quote from: Lawrence of Knockbride on June 13, 2010, 01:29:47 PM
I blame the referee for the whole lot. :P
Anybody know if the minor semi-final is the same weekend as the back-door?
I couldn't be arsed talking about the game itself. I've been at every competitive match this year and as this one was slipping away it just seemed like I couldn't give a shite. f**k it. Same old I'm afraid. Let the blame game and finger pointing begin.

I'd say it'll be on before Monaghan v Fermanagh game,but could be wrong
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on June 13, 2010, 05:07:43 PM
Quote from: Lawrence of Knockbride on June 13, 2010, 01:29:47 PM
I blame the referee for the whole lot. :P
Anybody know if the minor semi-final is the same weekend as the back-door?
I couldn't be arsed talking about the game itself. I've been at every competitive match this year and as this one was slipping away it just seemed like I couldn't give a shite. f**k it. Same old I'm afraid. Let the blame game and finger pointing begin.

Its not about the blame game. Its about identifying why we are being bet in the Ulster championship again. You can say "f**k it" but I would prefer to offer an opinion on what happened.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: JMohan on June 13, 2010, 07:38:17 PM
Some serious questions need to be asked about Cavan football and where it's going.

I was speaking to a fairly well connected man who was telling me about the backroom/background/CB and the set up and it's a joke, or at least looks like a joke from the outside.

TC hasn't a clue really when all is said and done. Great fella and wonderful enthusiasm but not the man to drag Cavan up from the bootlaces. The backroom team is nonexistent either and there is no real structure to what is being done. 
In some ways TC had little control over what was going on.

Some people in the County Board have tried to put things in place, but with the mess a network of people they have pulling the strings who know nothing about football it's no surprise what's happening behind the scenes.

Of course some players are just along for the ride, but most are serious and trying hard, just poorly led.
Cavan won't see an Ulster Final for 5 years minimum at the rate they're going, and won't see a Ulster Title for a decade with the current approach and structure they have in place.

The questions Cavan have to ask now is who do they go to next?
Who's the next manager? 
Are they going to persist with the 'muppet masters' outside the team?
What kind of longer term structure will their be?
Who is looking at the long term plan?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on June 13, 2010, 08:40:20 PM
Is the qualifier in Breffni or Aughrim?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on June 13, 2010, 08:46:21 PM
Quote from: Denn Forever on June 13, 2010, 08:40:20 PM
Is the qualifier in Breffni or Aughrim?

Breffini,thank f**k,its about time we got a home qualifier!!!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on June 13, 2010, 08:53:02 PM
Quote from: JMohan on June 13, 2010, 07:38:17 PM
Some serious questions need to be asked about Cavan football and where it's going.

I was speaking to a fairly well connected man who was telling me about the backroom/background/CB and the set up and it's a joke, or at least looks like a joke from the outside.

TC hasn't a clue really when all is said and done. Great fella and wonderful enthusiasm but not the man to drag Cavan up from the bootlaces. The backroom team is nonexistent either and there is no real structure to what is being done. 
In some ways TC had little control over what was going on.

Some people in the County Board have tried to put things in place, but with the mess a network of people they have pulling the strings who know nothing about football it's no surprise what's happening behind the scenes.

Of course some players are just along for the ride, but most are serious and trying hard, just poorly led.
Cavan won't see an Ulster Final for 5 years minimum at the rate they're going, and won't see a Ulster Title for a decade with the current approach and structure they have in place.

The questions Cavan have to ask now is who do they go to next?
Who's the next manager? 
Are they going to persist with the 'muppet masters' outside the team?
What kind of longer term structure will their be?
Who is looking at the long term plan?

Good post JMohan,it echoes what alot of us have been saying.
Their is supposed to be a coaching structure in place,we have 6 full time coaches and a games development manager in Nicholas Walsh,looking after those from under 14 up.
the fruit of that should be coming shortly at minor level we would hope,if not that will have to be looked at.
Hopefully we wont be hiring out the authority of selecting a county manager to another company this time around  :D   :D   :D  :D
(sorry that gets more pathetic everytime i think about it)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on June 13, 2010, 09:08:10 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on June 13, 2010, 05:07:43 PM
Quote from: Lawrence of Knockbride on June 13, 2010, 01:29:47 PM
I blame the referee for the whole lot. :P
Anybody know if the minor semi-final is the same weekend as the back-door?
I couldn't be arsed talking about the game itself. I've been at every competitive match this year and as this one was slipping away it just seemed like I couldn't give a shite. f**k it. Same old I'm afraid. Let the blame game and finger pointing begin.

Its not about the blame game. Its about identifying why we are being bet in the Ulster championship again. You can say "f**k it" but I would prefer to offer an opinion on what happened.
Really? There seems to be some serious blame being handed out. We won in the Ulster Championship last year against the same team and there was very little in either game between two poor sides. We haven't improved or disimproved on last year so I don't have that much interest in analysing what is becoming too repetitive for me to care at the minute. But I'll be at the next game you can be sure and sure we'll see how we are then. At least we're not favourites this time.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: JMohan on June 13, 2010, 09:59:31 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on June 13, 2010, 08:53:02 PM
Quote from: JMohan on June 13, 2010, 07:38:17 PM
Some serious questions need to be asked about Cavan football and where it's going.

I was speaking to a fairly well connected man who was telling me about the backroom/background/CB and the set up and it's a joke, or at least looks like a joke from the outside.

TC hasn't a clue really when all is said and done. Great fella and wonderful enthusiasm but not the man to drag Cavan up from the bootlaces. The backroom team is nonexistent either and there is no real structure to what is being done. 
In some ways TC had little control over what was going on.

Some people in the County Board have tried to put things in place, but with the mess a network of people they have pulling the strings who know nothing about football it's no surprise what's happening behind the scenes.

Of course some players are just along for the ride, but most are serious and trying hard, just poorly led.
Cavan won't see an Ulster Final for 5 years minimum at the rate they're going, and won't see a Ulster Title for a decade with the current approach and structure they have in place.

The questions Cavan have to ask now is who do they go to next?
Who's the next manager? 
Are they going to persist with the 'muppet masters' outside the team?
What kind of longer term structure will their be?
Who is looking at the long term plan?

Good post JMohan,it echoes what alot of us have been saying.
Their is supposed to be a coaching structure in place,we have 6 full time coaches and a games development manager in Nicholas Walsh,looking after those from under 14 up.
the fruit of that should be coming shortly at minor level we would hope,if not that will have to be looked at.
Hopefully we wont be hiring out the authority of selecting a county manager to another company this time around  :D   :D   :D  :D
(sorry that gets more pathetic everytime i think about it)

So why is he involved in having an input in the senior set up?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on June 13, 2010, 11:38:01 PM
Quote from: JMohan on June 13, 2010, 09:59:31 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on June 13, 2010, 08:53:02 PM
Quote from: JMohan on June 13, 2010, 07:38:17 PM
Some serious questions need to be asked about Cavan football and where it's going.

I was speaking to a fairly well connected man who was telling me about the backroom/background/CB and the set up and it's a joke, or at least looks like a joke from the outside.

TC hasn't a clue really when all is said and done. Great fella and wonderful enthusiasm but not the man to drag Cavan up from the bootlaces. The backroom team is nonexistent either and there is no real structure to what is being done. 
In some ways TC had little control over what was going on.

Some people in the County Board have tried to put things in place, but with the mess a network of people they have pulling the strings who know nothing about football it's no surprise what's happening behind the scenes.

Of course some players are just along for the ride, but most are serious and trying hard, just poorly led.
Cavan won't see an Ulster Final for 5 years minimum at the rate they're going, and won't see a Ulster Title for a decade with the current approach and structure they have in place.

The questions Cavan have to ask now is who do they go to next?
Who's the next manager? 
Are they going to persist with the 'muppet masters' outside the team?
What kind of longer term structure will their be?
Who is looking at the long term plan?

Good post JMohan,it echoes what alot of us have been saying.
Their is supposed to be a coaching structure in place,we have 6 full time coaches and a games development manager in Nicholas Walsh,looking after those from under 14 up.
the fruit of that should be coming shortly at minor level we would hope,if not that will have to be looked at.
Hopefully we wont be hiring out the authority of selecting a county manager to another company this time around  :D   :D   :D  :D
(sorry that gets more pathetic everytime i think about it)

So why is he involved in having an input in the senior set up?
He is?first ive heard of it JM,i thought his role was restricted to being a player,if he has any other role,that is just wrong.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on June 14, 2010, 08:35:18 AM
So we've got a home draw against Wicklow. As good as we could have hoped for really. It is my opinion that player for player we are much better than Wiclow. However, I still think we will probably lose! Micko will weigh up our game plan prior to the match or at least 10 minutes into the match and will take action to neutralise it. Mr Carr will watch on and not even realise what is happening. Then again, I was surprised Wicklow lost to Westmeath so maybe the Micko factor is wearing thin.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on June 14, 2010, 11:48:40 AM
So Terry Hyland for Cavan Manager?  Sounds good I think.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on June 14, 2010, 11:53:09 AM
Quote from: Denn Forever on June 14, 2010, 11:48:40 AM
So Terry Hyland for Cavan Manager?  Sounds good I think.

Ciaran Brady and Mickey Graham partnership for me. Brady one of the few internal candidates that has won something and Graham is coming to the end of his apprentership and could well entice some of the Cavan Gaels lads back in. No point looking for an outside manager now, only a lunatic would take it and would want a ball of money. Just keep King away from it!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Terry Coyle on June 14, 2010, 12:00:56 PM
Quote from: Denn Forever on June 14, 2010, 11:48:40 AM
So Terry Hyland for Cavan Manager?  Sounds good I think.

Are you having a laugh? Can get a team fit and motivated but my dog would have better tactics. Great servant to Cavan football but not a county senior manager.

Don't know what Ciaran Brady is like, but I can comment on Mickey - will be a top class manager. If anyone has ever heard him in a pre match dressing room then you can be nothing but motivated.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: JMohan on June 14, 2010, 12:13:35 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on June 13, 2010, 11:38:01 PM
Quote from: JMohan on June 13, 2010, 09:59:31 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on June 13, 2010, 08:53:02 PM
Quote from: JMohan on June 13, 2010, 07:38:17 PM
Some serious questions need to be asked about Cavan football and where it's going.

I was speaking to a fairly well connected man who was telling me about the backroom/background/CB and the set up and it's a joke, or at least looks like a joke from the outside.

TC hasn't a clue really when all is said and done. Great fella and wonderful enthusiasm but not the man to drag Cavan up from the bootlaces. The backroom team is nonexistent either and there is no real structure to what is being done. 
In some ways TC had little control over what was going on.

Some people in the County Board have tried to put things in place, but with the mess a network of people they have pulling the strings who know nothing about football it's no surprise what's happening behind the scenes.

Of course some players are just along for the ride, but most are serious and trying hard, just poorly led.
Cavan won't see an Ulster Final for 5 years minimum at the rate they're going, and won't see a Ulster Title for a decade with the current approach and structure they have in place.

The questions Cavan have to ask now is who do they go to next?
Who's the next manager? 
Are they going to persist with the 'muppet masters' outside the team?
What kind of longer term structure will their be?
Who is looking at the long term plan?

Good post JMohan,it echoes what alot of us have been saying.
Their is supposed to be a coaching structure in place,we have 6 full time coaches and a games development manager in Nicholas Walsh,looking after those from under 14 up.
the fruit of that should be coming shortly at minor level we would hope,if not that will have to be looked at.
Hopefully we wont be hiring out the authority of selecting a county manager to another company this time around  :D   :D   :D  :D
(sorry that gets more pathetic everytime i think about it)

So why is he involved in having an input in the senior set up?
He is?first ive heard of it JM,i thought his role was restricted to being a player,if he has any other role,that is just wrong.
As the head coach in Cavan he has a say or influence ... shud he? no.

As for Graham ... yeh he might be good enough, but his face doesn't fit with the people who make the big decisions in Cavan, so he's no chance.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dougal on June 14, 2010, 01:43:35 PM
Quote from: Terry Coyle on June 14, 2010, 12:00:56 PM
Quote from: Denn Forever on June 14, 2010, 11:48:40 AM
So Terry Hyland for Cavan Manager?  Sounds good I think.

Are you having a laugh? Can get a team fit and motivated but my dog would have better tactics. Great servant to Cavan football but not a county senior manager.

Don't know what Ciaran Brady is like, but I can comment on Mickey - will be a top class manager. If anyone has ever heard him in a pre match dressing room then you can be nothing but motivated.


ive said that about hyland on many other websites,a very good motivator,but nothing great tactically.at the same time i dont think mickey is anything great tactically.i'd imagine he'd be fit to get a few of the gaels lads to commit aswell,but not sure if he's the man either.

excuse my ignorance,but what has ciaran brady won?i cant say i ever heard much about him.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Terry Coyle on June 14, 2010, 01:58:24 PM
Quote from: Dougal on June 14, 2010, 01:43:35 PM
Quote from: Terry Coyle on June 14, 2010, 12:00:56 PM
Quote from: Denn Forever on June 14, 2010, 11:48:40 AM
So Terry Hyland for Cavan Manager?  Sounds good I think.

Are you having a laugh? Can get a team fit and motivated but my dog would have better tactics. Great servant to Cavan football but not a county senior manager.

Don't know what Ciaran Brady is like, but I can comment on Mickey - will be a top class manager. If anyone has ever heard him in a pre match dressing room then you can be nothing but motivated.


ive said that about hyland on many other websites,a very good motivator,but nothing great tactically.at the same time i dont think mickey is anything great tactically.i'd imagine he'd be fit to get a few of the gaels lads to commit aswell,but not sure if he's the man either.

excuse my ignorance,but what has ciaran brady won?i cant say i ever heard much about him.

Yeah I dont know much about Ciaran Brady either - I think he won a senior championship in Longford, doesnt exactly equal senior county manager credentials. Then again its better than Keoghans CV and it is the Cavan County Board we are talking about.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dougal on June 14, 2010, 02:00:08 PM
was he over colmcille?or was that some other cavan manger?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on June 14, 2010, 04:30:46 PM
That Ciaran Brady/Mickey Graham duo sounds interesting.
i know how good a manager and coach Mickey is,i wouldnt know too much on Ciaran Brady,perhaps some of our longford friends could share with us as to how he is rated over there?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Terry Coyle on June 14, 2010, 05:41:01 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on June 14, 2010, 04:30:46 PM
That Ciaran Brady/Mickey Graham duo sounds interesting.
i know how good a manager and coach Mickey is,i wouldnt know too much on Ciaran Brady,perhaps some of our longford friends could share with us as to how he is rated over there?

Don't bother - He's a Gowna man!  ;)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dougal on June 14, 2010, 06:01:06 PM
BHman,you played under mickey,and im not sure but boojangles might have aswell.im fairly certain he's a good motivator,but is he any better than any other manager when it comes to tactics?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on June 14, 2010, 06:23:22 PM
Well if Tommy barely survived after his first year he'll surely fall on his sword now, players' support or not.

After witnessing Saturday's game - the first match I got to see since Antrim last year - I can't say he deserves to stay. It was like looking at the same game a year on, nothing had changed, we were running up cul de sacs in the second half and when we don't have score-takers like Sligo, Cork, Kerry etc. (who beat the blanket by having numerous players who can hack over points from the '45) then we were totally shagged.

To have no gameplan to deal with Fermanagh when the dogs on the street knew what they'd do is just unforgivable. To have stood fiddling while Rome burned, taking off the cornerforward (the go-to move for clueless managers since 1884) when our defence was being roasted, was even worse.

Bringing on Martin Reilly into a forest of bodies and flailing limbs, a willo-the-wisp lad, was ridiculous. I didn't realise until later that the McKiernan lad was an option for full-forward but he left it way too late to post a big man in there and at least give Fermanagh something new to think about. Plan A wasn't working, so we stuck with plan A.

Who to replace him? Lord knows. I just fear we might goose Mickey Graham for good if we put him in there too early, he seems to be a potentially good manager but putting him in with the senior team now might send him backwards? I'd prefer to leave him to work his way up with the U21s next year I really think he could make a breakthrough with the lads he's been managing at minor for the last three seasons and that supercedes our needs at senior at the moment, I believe.

Terry Hyland's U21s didn't impress me tactically in the Ulster final either, it was a ticking timebomb leaving one inside on Murphy, so I don't know if he's the answer either. It's hard to come up with names from inside the county that's for sure...
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on June 14, 2010, 06:39:07 PM
IMO Jelly should not have started. He hadn't played a League game and you could tell him and Mackey were out of sync with eachother. They definitely weren't playing as a unit up front. He would have been a serious lift to us coming on in the 2nd half when things were tight. 
It was obvious Mackey was having an off day but then they take Brennan off who had scored 2 points and set up 2.Call me biased because he's a club mate but the ball wasn't coming in in the 2nd half and it was obvious the change needed to be made at Midfield, not at corner forward FFS. He scored 2-5 for us yesterday just to stick 2 fingers up to Tommy Carr.

Ciaran Brady was over Colmcille in 2008 when they won the Longford championship.
I played under Ciaran a few years ago when he 1st got into coaching.Even back then he was a very good trainer and had some great ideas. I'm sure he has learned alot in the mean time and he could well be a future Cavan manager.
People can say what they like about Terry Hyland but he has managed 2 Cavan teams to provincial finals this year already.He deserves alot of credit for that alone.
Mickey Graham is a fine manager and could be the Senior manager but I think it is a bit too soon for him TBH. He is the best manager I came across to get a team ready for the Big day.Whether that was a final or 1st round of the championship, he knew how to peak a team(well he did with Drumalee and Butlersbridge anyway :P :P) and that is something that is invaluable as a manager in my eyes.
You would definitely have to question the current managers ability to do the same.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dougal on June 14, 2010, 06:53:20 PM
you finally came out of hiding. :D

your not biased with regards to brennan,i havent really rated him the whole way through the league,but thought he was playing well,and didnt think he needed to be taken off.

they lost to eire og that year,did they not?in the first game of the leinster champ?i dont know much about colmcille or longford football in general,and maybe that was a big achievement,but id say hyland has achieved more than brady,IMO.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on June 14, 2010, 06:58:19 PM
I don't think we should really be speculating until Tommy Truck goes after the qualifiers but for what it's worth here is my opinion. Mickey is a fantastic manager. Everybody under him wants to play and wants to work. But giving him the senior job at this moment in time would be stupid. He has had the last 3 years of minor crops. Surely the sensible thing to do would be to let him continue to work with them and develop them and try to develop belief. Some of the U21's next year have now beaten Antrim, Monaghan, Armagh and Down in Ulster Championship so I don't think they have the same sense of inferiority as some in the senior set-up appear to have. Let's see if he can develop those individuals - the likes of G Mckiernan, Minnagh and McDermott.

Who takes over the senior set-up is a difficult one. We thought when TC was taking over, things couldn't get any worse but now at this stage the only thing that would send us lower is getting bet by London or somone. Hyland seems the logical answer although whether he is up to it, I'm not sure. In fairness I think his record of late is by and large better than any other Cavan man in the country bar McDermott down in Clare. He would need help around him to make a decent go of it - particularly with regards to training I would say but at least he has abit of passion and would hopefully transfer that to the players. He obviously has something about him - 3 finals in 12 months isn't bad!

Given Kingspan's difficulties I would say for pretty obvious reasons our aim next year should be to try and get the best out of our own coaching resources.  Whether politics can be forgotten and that can actually be done though remains to be seen. Brady and Hyland with the seniors and Mickey at u21 would be far from the worst thing possible. Again though, going from what Brady done last year when offered the u21 job, it is clear he doesn't want to be anybody's puppet. If we got those two together, I wouldn't be overly fussy which one had the bainesteoir bib, you would hope that they could try come together to rescue Cavan football out of this dark dark hole....
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on June 14, 2010, 07:26:22 PM
Quote from: put-it-up on June 14, 2010, 06:58:19 PM
I don't think we should really be speculating until Tommy Truck goes after the qualifiers but for what it's worth here is my opinion. Mickey is a fantastic manager. Everybody under him wants to play and wants to work. But giving him the senior job at this moment in time would be stupid. He has had the last 3 years of minor crops. Surely the sensible thing to do would be to let him continue to work with them and develop them and try to develop belief. Some of the U21's next year have now beaten Antrim, Monaghan, Armagh and Down in Ulster Championship so I don't think they have the same sense of inferiority as some in the senior set-up appear to have. Let's see if he can develop those individuals - the likes of G Mckiernan, Minnagh and McDermott.

Who takes over the senior set-up is a difficult one. We thought when TC was taking over, things couldn't get any worse but now at this stage the only thing that would send us lower is getting bet by London or somone. Hyland seems the logical answer although whether he is up to it, I'm not sure. In fairness I think his record of late is by and large better than any other Cavan man in the country bar McDermott down in Clare. He would need help around him to make a decent go of it - particularly with regards to training I would say but at least he has abit of passion and would hopefully transfer that to the players. He obviously has something about him - 3 finals in 12 months isn't bad!

Given Kingspan's difficulties I would say for pretty obvious reasons our aim next year should be to try and get the best out of our own coaching resources.  Whether politics can be forgotten and that can actually be done though remains to be seen. Brady and Hyland with the seniors and Mickey at u21 would be far from the worst thing possible. Again though, going from what Brady done last year when offered the u21 job, it is clear he doesn't want to be anybody's puppet. If we got those two together, I wouldn't be overly fussy which one had the bainesteoir bib, you would hope that they could try come together to rescue Cavan football out of this dark dark hole....

Alot of the current Senior crop have beaten the counties you have mentioned at Underage also. Johnston,McKeever, etc at Minor level beat Donegal and Down and that team at U-21 level with Mulvey,Ciaran Galligan added to it beat Monaghan and Armagh. The 2 scalps we are really badly missing at Underage are Derry and Tyrone and until we can overcome that inferiority complex as regards to these 2 counties, Cavan will not be a force in Ulster. Correct me if I'm wrong but the last time I remember Cavan beating Derry at Underage is in 1996 when we beat them well in the U-21 Ulster final. Tyrone, I can't remember.
Next years U-21 team will bring hope but a good Minor team can change alot in 3 years and TBH I would be slightly worried about a few from that team who may not be fulfilling the potential they showed at Minor level. I hope I'm wrong but time will tell.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on June 14, 2010, 07:35:35 PM
Quote from: boojangles on June 14, 2010, 07:26:22 PM
Correct me if I'm wrong but the last time I remember Cavan beating Derry at Underage is in 1996 when we beat them well in the U-21 Ulster final. Tyrone, I can't remember.

The last time any Cavan team beat a Tyrone side, at any age level in a competitive match (possibly friendlies too), was maybe in spring of 1997 when their seniors were managed by Danny Ball and we beat them in a league relegation playoff or something. Any time we've met them at minor, U21 or senior since, we've got bate with the exception of the odd draw and replay here and there. Maybe the odd minor league win but definitely never in senior league or championship. Couldn't tell you when we'd have played them underage before 1997 though.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on June 14, 2010, 07:42:37 PM
Quote from: boojangles on June 14, 2010, 07:26:22 PM
Quote from: put-it-up on June 14, 2010, 06:58:19 PM
I don't think we should really be speculating until Tommy Truck goes after the qualifiers but for what it's worth here is my opinion. Mickey is a fantastic manager. Everybody under him wants to play and wants to work. But giving him the senior job at this moment in time would be stupid. He has had the last 3 years of minor crops. Surely the sensible thing to do would be to let him continue to work with them and develop them and try to develop belief. Some of the U21's next year have now beaten Antrim, Monaghan, Armagh and Down in Ulster Championship so I don't think they have the same sense of inferiority as some in the senior set-up appear to have. Let's see if he can develop those individuals - the likes of G Mckiernan, Minnagh and McDermott.

Who takes over the senior set-up is a difficult one. We thought when TC was taking over, things couldn't get any worse but now at this stage the only thing that would send us lower is getting bet by London or somone. Hyland seems the logical answer although whether he is up to it, I'm not sure. In fairness I think his record of late is by and large better than any other Cavan man in the country bar McDermott down in Clare. He would need help around him to make a decent go of it - particularly with regards to training I would say but at least he has abit of passion and would hopefully transfer that to the players. He obviously has something about him - 3 finals in 12 months isn't bad!

Given Kingspan's difficulties I would say for pretty obvious reasons our aim next year should be to try and get the best out of our own coaching resources.  Whether politics can be forgotten and that can actually be done though remains to be seen. Brady and Hyland with the seniors and Mickey at u21 would be far from the worst thing possible. Again though, going from what Brady done last year when offered the u21 job, it is clear he doesn't want to be anybody's puppet. If we got those two together, I wouldn't be overly fussy which one had the bainesteoir bib, you would hope that they could try come together to rescue Cavan football out of this dark dark hole....

Alot of the current Senior crop have beaten the counties you have mentioned at Underage also. Johnston,McKeever, etc at Minor level beat Donegal and Down and that team at U-21 level with Mulvey,Ciaran Galligan added to it beat Monaghan and Armagh. The 2 scalps we are really badly missing at Underage are Derry and Tyrone and until we can overcome that inferiority complex as regards to these 2 counties, Cavan will not be a force in Ulster. Correct me if I'm wrong but the last time I remember Cavan beating Derry at Underage is in 1996 when we beat them well in the U-21 Ulster final. Tyrone, I can't remember.
Next years U-21 team will bring hope but a good Minor team can change alot in 3 years and TBH I would be slightly worried about a few from that team who may not be fulfilling the potential they showed at Minor level. I hope I'm wrong but time will tell.

I'm sure a lot of the current crop have won at underage level but to be honest BooJ, i think at this stage, that they have forgotten how that felt and what it took. you can see it in them on the field - it's so obvious they don't feel as good as other teams they are playing. I think the u21's, call it the fearlessness of youth or whatever you like, but I think those boys are willing to stand up and give it a lash against anyone. If more senior figures could benefit from that and re-energise themselves I think that would be of massive benefit to everyone.

We all know minor is a funny old age, sure look how Givney progressed from minor to now. I would guess quite a lot of the team next would be different but if Mickey was over them he would be familiar with the core of players. I think that is an advantage.

And I would agree would your regarding certain player's developments since 08 but it is worth noting that their first year out of minor was a complete waste of time. Zero effort was put into the u21's in 09 but this year's experience will have helped alot of them. Who's progression has disappointed you??
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Swadman on June 14, 2010, 08:07:34 PM
Quote from: put-it-up on June 14, 2010, 06:58:19 PM
... Some of the U21's next year have now beaten Antrim, Monaghan, Armagh and Down in Ulster Championship so I don't think they have the same sense of inferiority as some in the senior set-up appear to have. Let's see if he can develop those individuals - the likes of G Mckiernan, Minnagh and McDermott.
Over the last 4/5 years we have had some very promising minor panels (over-hyped sometimes,but nevertheless, good) The problem is the next level.
1. Lots of them seem to drift away, loose interest,  develop a fondness for "wimmen & drink"  get jobs far away. You can be damn sure a young star in Kerry or any of the 6 counties would be "found" a job which would allow him stay and play in the county. I played and lived in Dublin during the last recession. Like now there were no jobs, it was the boat for most, but it was well known that Joe McNally got employment in a few places just because he was dynamite for Dublin at the time. 
2. There was a proposal to scrap the U-21 which was shot down. I would suggest that there is too much of a gap between U-18 and U21 so have a Minor U-18 and a U-20 competition.

The above statement comes with a disclaimer: I maybe still raving after seeing my neighbours beating us for the first time since 1914 and it had to happen during my time on the planet
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on June 14, 2010, 08:19:16 PM
Quote from: put-it-up on June 14, 2010, 07:42:37 PM
Quote from: boojangles on June 14, 2010, 07:26:22 PM
Quote from: put-it-up on June 14, 2010, 06:58:19 PM
I don't think we should really be speculating until Tommy Truck goes after the qualifiers but for what it's worth here is my opinion. Mickey is a fantastic manager. Everybody under him wants to play and wants to work. But giving him the senior job at this moment in time would be stupid. He has had the last 3 years of minor crops. Surely the sensible thing to do would be to let him continue to work with them and develop them and try to develop belief. Some of the U21's next year have now beaten Antrim, Monaghan, Armagh and Down in Ulster Championship so I don't think they have the same sense of inferiority as some in the senior set-up appear to have. Let's see if he can develop those individuals - the likes of G Mckiernan, Minnagh and McDermott.

Who takes over the senior set-up is a difficult one. We thought when TC was taking over, things couldn't get any worse but now at this stage the only thing that would send us lower is getting bet by London or somone. Hyland seems the logical answer although whether he is up to it, I'm not sure. In fairness I think his record of late is by and large better than any other Cavan man in the country bar McDermott down in Clare. He would need help around him to make a decent go of it - particularly with regards to training I would say but at least he has abit of passion and would hopefully transfer that to the players. He obviously has something about him - 3 finals in 12 months isn't bad!

Given Kingspan's difficulties I would say for pretty obvious reasons our aim next year should be to try and get the best out of our own coaching resources.  Whether politics can be forgotten and that can actually be done though remains to be seen. Brady and Hyland with the seniors and Mickey at u21 would be far from the worst thing possible. Again though, going from what Brady done last year when offered the u21 job, it is clear he doesn't want to be anybody's puppet. If we got those two together, I wouldn't be overly fussy which one had the bainesteoir bib, you would hope that they could try come together to rescue Cavan football out of this dark dark hole....

Alot of the current Senior crop have beaten the counties you have mentioned at Underage also. Johnston,McKeever, etc at Minor level beat Donegal and Down and that team at U-21 level with Mulvey,Ciaran Galligan added to it beat Monaghan and Armagh. The 2 scalps we are really badly missing at Underage are Derry and Tyrone and until we can overcome that inferiority complex as regards to these 2 counties, Cavan will not be a force in Ulster. Correct me if I'm wrong but the last time I remember Cavan beating Derry at Underage is in 1996 when we beat them well in the U-21 Ulster final. Tyrone, I can't remember.
Next years U-21 team will bring hope but a good Minor team can change alot in 3 years and TBH I would be slightly worried about a few from that team who may not be fulfilling the potential they showed at Minor level. I hope I'm wrong but time will tell.

I'm sure a lot of the current crop have won at underage level but to be honest BooJ, i think at this stage, that they have forgotten how that felt and what it took. you can see it in them on the field - it's so obvious they don't feel as good as other teams they are playing. I think the u21's, call it the fearlessness of youth or whatever you like, but I think those boys are willing to stand up and give it a lash against anyone. If more senior figures could benefit from that and re-energise themselves I think that would be of massive benefit to everyone.

We all know minor is a funny old age, sure look how Givney progressed from minor to now. I would guess quite a lot of the team next would be different but if Mickey was over them he would be familiar with the core of players. I think that is an advantage.

And I would agree would your regarding certain player's developments since 08 but it is worth noting that their first year out of minor was a complete waste of time. Zero effort was put into the u21's in 09 but this year's experience will have helped alot of them. Who's progression has disappointed you??

No harm or anything,I'm not gonna start naming names. Its very easy to sit behind a computer and criticise.Its something I will not do, anymore. Some of that team have been badly hampered with injuries in the last year or 2 and hopefully they will be fully cleared up because I think next years U-21 team could do something. Time will tell how well some lads have developed,physically and probably more importantly mentally.Thats all I'l say.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on June 14, 2010, 08:31:08 PM
Quote from: boojangles on June 14, 2010, 08:19:16 PM
Quote from: put-it-up on June 14, 2010, 07:42:37 PM
Quote from: boojangles on June 14, 2010, 07:26:22 PM
Quote from: put-it-up on June 14, 2010, 06:58:19 PM
I don't think we should really be speculating until Tommy Truck goes after the qualifiers but for what it's worth here is my opinion. Mickey is a fantastic manager. Everybody under him wants to play and wants to work. But giving him the senior job at this moment in time would be stupid. He has had the last 3 years of minor crops. Surely the sensible thing to do would be to let him continue to work with them and develop them and try to develop belief. Some of the U21's next year have now beaten Antrim, Monaghan, Armagh and Down in Ulster Championship so I don't think they have the same sense of inferiority as some in the senior set-up appear to have. Let's see if he can develop those individuals - the likes of G Mckiernan, Minnagh and McDermott.

Who takes over the senior set-up is a difficult one. We thought when TC was taking over, things couldn't get any worse but now at this stage the only thing that would send us lower is getting bet by London or somone. Hyland seems the logical answer although whether he is up to it, I'm not sure. In fairness I think his record of late is by and large better than any other Cavan man in the country bar McDermott down in Clare. He would need help around him to make a decent go of it - particularly with regards to training I would say but at least he has abit of passion and would hopefully transfer that to the players. He obviously has something about him - 3 finals in 12 months isn't bad!

Given Kingspan's difficulties I would say for pretty obvious reasons our aim next year should be to try and get the best out of our own coaching resources.  Whether politics can be forgotten and that can actually be done though remains to be seen. Brady and Hyland with the seniors and Mickey at u21 would be far from the worst thing possible. Again though, going from what Brady done last year when offered the u21 job, it is clear he doesn't want to be anybody's puppet. If we got those two together, I wouldn't be overly fussy which one had the bainesteoir bib, you would hope that they could try come together to rescue Cavan football out of this dark dark hole....

Alot of the current Senior crop have beaten the counties you have mentioned at Underage also. Johnston,McKeever, etc at Minor level beat Donegal and Down and that team at U-21 level with Mulvey,Ciaran Galligan added to it beat Monaghan and Armagh. The 2 scalps we are really badly missing at Underage are Derry and Tyrone and until we can overcome that inferiority complex as regards to these 2 counties, Cavan will not be a force in Ulster. Correct me if I'm wrong but the last time I remember Cavan beating Derry at Underage is in 1996 when we beat them well in the U-21 Ulster final. Tyrone, I can't remember.
Next years U-21 team will bring hope but a good Minor team can change alot in 3 years and TBH I would be slightly worried about a few from that team who may not be fulfilling the potential they showed at Minor level. I hope I'm wrong but time will tell.

I'm sure a lot of the current crop have won at underage level but to be honest BooJ, i think at this stage, that they have forgotten how that felt and what it took. you can see it in them on the field - it's so obvious they don't feel as good as other teams they are playing. I think the u21's, call it the fearlessness of youth or whatever you like, but I think those boys are willing to stand up and give it a lash against anyone. If more senior figures could benefit from that and re-energise themselves I think that would be of massive benefit to everyone.

We all know minor is a funny old age, sure look how Givney progressed from minor to now. I would guess quite a lot of the team next would be different but if Mickey was over them he would be familiar with the core of players. I think that is an advantage.

And I would agree would your regarding certain player's developments since 08 but it is worth noting that their first year out of minor was a complete waste of time. Zero effort was put into the u21's in 09 but this year's experience will have helped alot of them. Who's progression has disappointed you??

No harm or anything,I'm not gonna start naming names. Its very easy to sit behind a computer and criticise.Its something I will not do, anymore. Some of that team have been badly hampered with injuries in the last year or 2 and hopefully they will be fully cleared up because I think next years U-21 team could do something. Time will tell how well some lads have developed,physically and probably more importantly mentally.Thats all I'l say.

Sorry Boo, selected a poor choice of words there. Very unfair to say any minor has disappointed - it would be more of a case of who hasn't progressed as much as we would have liked. But anyway, I'm not naming names either - that is a long way off and plenty has to be sorted before then if we are gona get back on the road towards the light. People debate over the importance of manager but I think in a county like Cavan a good one is imperative. Most people could go in and manage Tyrone, Mayo, Galway or Kerry. They already have a winning mentalit. With Cavan your trying to build from the bottom up. And boy Jaysus do we need to start building.


Look what has happened in Wexford, Fermanagh, Sligo or Wicklow in recent times. The right man at the helm can give players a new lease of life and the whole county a new sense of optimism. Carr has badly failed to do that in his tenure
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on June 14, 2010, 08:47:38 PM
I've watched the game on the TV since and have calmed down a tad. There were some good points worth noting.

- I thought Fintans kicks were good - nothing he could do about the goal. He's a decent keeper.
- I thought Corr did ok on Carson considering the ball came in with no pressure applied
- I thought Givney and Galligan did well in patches. Givney will take a lot of plaudits for fielding spectacular high ball but Galligan did some nice simple breaks to his team mates. I think Galligan is only 24 and with some coaching he could come good. He is big, strong and athletic - he just needs some direction. Givney is a natural talent and his improvement in the last year or two have been incredible. Go back earlier in this thread and you'll find lots of comments about him being too slow, too clumsy. Look at hoganstand and you'll see plenty say that cos he is with a poor junior team he hasn't a hope. Now he is making the top 5 player lists.
- Nesty was really impressive. Reliable from frees, strong runner, great vision, took a nice point and tackled back. Went boxing at the end and at least that showed that it mattered to him. I hope if Carr goes he sticks around, he has breffni blood in him so no need for him to go anywhere.
- Brennan played well its a pity the ball didn't go into him a bit more as he was the only cavan forward that uses their brain.
- Johnston is still one of the best forwards ability wise in the country. If he were fit I think we could have won but he looked like a man minding himself a bit.
- Mackey is still a good player, one bad game can happen to anyone.

Disapointing aspects...

- Corner backs were so loose it was unreal. Cahill just back from injury so maybe thats what happened. Shierdan is not a man for the FB line. These guys need to step up and show they deserve their place.
- McKeever - I'm just not convinced. He blows hot and cold and is a lad living on reputation from years ago.
- Flanagan - Versatile, dedicated, fit but does he excel in one position, the jury is out.
- Carr - poor subs, poor tactics and poor reading of the game. The single biggest reason we lost that game.

Taking the positives I think it is possible we could beat Wicklow and maybe get some revenge for last year, possibly lifting morale but I fear that Micko can too easily pull the wool over carrs eyes.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: whats my name on June 14, 2010, 10:20:06 PM
thanks Myles for the poor junior team bit. >:(
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on June 15, 2010, 06:42:12 AM
Quote from: whats my name on June 14, 2010, 10:20:06 PM
thanks Myles for the poor junior team bit. >:(

I was repeating what others said previously, not my own opinion. Played on junior teams myself so would never go slagging a team based on the level they are at.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on June 16, 2010, 08:19:06 PM

Paul Brady missing for Cavan first round qualifier
Paul Brady
Paul Brady (left) was part of the Cavan side which lost to Fermanagh

Paul Brady will miss Cavan's first round football qualifier tie against Wicklow as he defends his US Nationals handball title in Austin, Texas.

Brady's absence will be a major blow to Cavan boss Tommy Carr and the Breffni side but he is fully focused on bidding for a sixth consecutive crown.

"Championship football does take a lot out of you mentally and physically, especially the legs," said Brady.

"I'm trying to balance resting with fine tuning in training this week."

"In terms of handball, it's what I've been training for all year really.

"It's difficult to get yourself into a positive frame of mind after the devastating defeat to Fermanagh but I'm confident about the shape I'm in and the handball I'm playing at the moment," reflected Brady, who lined out at wing-half back for the Cavan side last weekend.

"I suppose I'm trying to put the loss out of my mind, switch off, and re-frame things before I start mentally preparing for next week.

No harm to the Gunner as he has openly stated Handball as his top priority but does anyone else think it's a bit silly having him come in after the league and then miss the next game which he would've done whether we won or lost?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on June 16, 2010, 08:38:05 PM
Yeah, no harm to him, If i was in his shoes right now the handball would be my priority to my a mile but it does defy logic to let him come in after the league and then go after the first championship game. Although I would say he would have been available if we had Monaghan coming up. Sums up TC at this stagee though.

i think Gunner is a quality player but he is never going to be the difference between winning a game. Personally I want to see Sheridan given a real try at WB along with McCutcheon, so if Hannon came into the corner I don't think we would lose a whole lot anyway.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lars on June 17, 2010, 07:54:54 PM
Hello to all fellow posters. I am a long time follower but first time poster to this forum. In the past i have enjoyed reading the views and opinions of everyone here, so thought I'd put some of my own in.
I personally think Paul Brady is a massive loss to the team. He has a massive workrate and covers acres of ground in every game he plays. The amount of times he got forward to join the attack on Saturday was staggering even if his end product was a bit wayward. We just don't have another wing back to match him. With regards to Put It Up's post, yes i completely agree that Sheridan needs to be played further out the field because he really isn't comfortable in the corner but I think playing Hannon is a step in the wrong direction. He is just not up to the standard anymore. He dosent stand out for his club team.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on June 17, 2010, 09:11:23 PM
Quote from: Lars on June 17, 2010, 07:54:54 PM
Hello to all fellow posters. I am a long time follower but first time poster to this forum. In the past i have enjoyed reading the views and opinions of everyone here, so thought I'd put some of my own in.
I personally think Paul Brady is a massive loss to the team. He has a massive workrate and covers acres of ground in every game he plays. The amount of times he got forward to join the attack on Saturday was staggering even if his end product was a bit wayward. We just don't have another wing back to match him. With regards to Put It Up's post, yes i completely agree that Sheridan needs to be played further out the field because he really isn't comfortable in the corner but I think playing Hannon is a step in the wrong direction. He is just not up to the standard anymore. He dosent stand out for his club team.

Physically Hannon is in the best shape as I have seen him in a while - he is prob just a game or two off the pace. Plus he is still only about 26 and in fairness to the chap, his club play's him as a forward.

Also If you are going to use that notion to pick lads for the county - the current crop might be in trouble. Think about how many of the current panel consistently excel for their club.

Gunner is a terrific athlete, we all know that, but if he going to be just coming in to play one game a year i think i would put a stop to that. Would people be so accomadating if he was prioritising soccer over football?

What club are you Lars?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lars on June 17, 2010, 09:54:40 PM
Quote from: put-it-up on June 17, 2010, 09:11:23 PM
Quote from: Lars on June 17, 2010, 07:54:54 PM
Hello to all fellow posters. I am a long time follower but first time poster to this forum. In the past i have enjoyed reading the views and opinions of everyone here, so thought I'd put some of my own in.
I personally think Paul Brady is a massive loss to the team. He has a massive workrate and covers acres of ground in every game he plays. The amount of times he got forward to join the attack on Saturday was staggering even if his end product was a bit wayward. We just don't have another wing back to match him. With regards to Put It Up's post, yes i completely agree that Sheridan needs to be played further out the field because he really isn't comfortable in the corner but I think playing Hannon is a step in the wrong direction. He is just not up to the standard anymore. He dosent stand out for his club team.

Physically Hannon is in the best shape as I have seen him in a while - he is prob just a game or two off the pace. Plus he is still only about 26 and in fairness to the chap, his club play's him as a forward.

Also If you are going to use that notion to pick lads for the county - the current crop might be in trouble. Think about how many of the current panel consistently excel for their club.

Gunner is a terrific athlete, we all know that, but if he going to be just coming in to play one game a year i think i would put a stop to that. Would people be so accomadating if he was prioritising soccer over football?

What club are you Lars?

He may be in the shape of his life but I just dont think he is up to it in terms of quality. Yes i agree that for some strange reason his club persist in playing him as a forward but i personally think that if a player is supposedly up to the standard to be in the county setup he should shine for a club playing at the level that his does..no matter were on the field he is, apart from the goalie I suppose :)

Its unfortunate that Paul has this situation but a place should be made for him regardless. He is a top class footballer and athlete which we just dont have enough of to leave him out when we have him.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on June 17, 2010, 11:18:10 PM
Quote from: Lars on June 17, 2010, 09:54:40 PM
Quote from: put-it-up on June 17, 2010, 09:11:23 PM
Quote from: Lars on June 17, 2010, 07:54:54 PM
Hello to all fellow posters. I am a long time follower but first time poster to this forum. In the past i have enjoyed reading the views and opinions of everyone here, so thought I'd put some of my own in.
I personally think Paul Brady is a massive loss to the team. He has a massive workrate and covers acres of ground in every game he plays. The amount of times he got forward to join the attack on Saturday was staggering even if his end product was a bit wayward. We just don't have another wing back to match him. With regards to Put It Up's post, yes i completely agree that Sheridan needs to be played further out the field because he really isn't comfortable in the corner but I think playing Hannon is a step in the wrong direction. He is just not up to the standard anymore. He dosent stand out for his club team.

Physically Hannon is in the best shape as I have seen him in a while - he is prob just a game or two off the pace. Plus he is still only about 26 and in fairness to the chap, his club play's him as a forward.

Also If you are going to use that notion to pick lads for the county - the current crop might be in trouble. Think about how many of the current panel consistently excel for their club.

Gunner is a terrific athlete, we all know that, but if he going to be just coming in to play one game a year i think i would put a stop to that. Would people be so accomadating if he was prioritising soccer over football?

What club are you Lars?

He may be in the shape of his life but I just dont think he is up to it in terms of quality. Yes i agree that for some strange reason his club persist in playing him as a forward but i personally think that if a player is supposedly up to the standard to be in the county setup he should shine for a club playing at the level that his does..no matter were on the field he is, apart from the goalie I suppose :)

Its unfortunate that Paul has this situation but a place should be made for him regardless. He is a top class footballer and athlete which we just dont have enough of to leave him out when we have him.

I wouldn't say he is outstanding but would have been better than either Sheridan or Cahill at the weekend. Do you honestly argue that point? And why should the goalie not have to stand out at club level? Does that mean you think any fool could play between the sticks?

I'm sorry and I do agree that Brady is a very very good footballer. But how are u meant to build team spirit and a work ethic when a lad misses the whole league and then goes again after one championship match. No harm to Paul, as I said, I would do the same in his boat but I don't think we couldn't survive without him. I understand he has other and more important commitments but if you're in, you're in. Thats my philosophy anyway
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dougal on June 17, 2010, 11:25:55 PM
PIU,i think his point was a good player will stand out in any position,but a goalkeeper wouldnt be expected to to stand out,in,lets say midfield.

i really didnt rate hannon a few months ago,but i think he is a great corner back.never thought much of him at club level,but that was because he carried the ball far too much,which he doesnt do at county level.

Brady is a great player,and we could do with him,but not if he wont fully commit,and if i was in his boots,i would chose the handball.it's not good for the team,when a lad plays 70mins in the league,starts for the 1st match in the champ,and is gone for the second match.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on June 17, 2010, 11:30:28 PM
Quote from: Dougal on June 17, 2010, 11:25:55 PM
PIU,i think his point was a good player will stand out in any position,but a goalkeeper wouldnt be expected to to stand out,in,lets say midfield.

i really didnt rate hannon a few months ago,but i think he is a great corner back.never thought much of him at club level,but that was because he carried the ball far too much,which he doesnt do at county level.

Brady is a great player,and we could do with him,but not if he wont fully commit,and if i was in his boots,i would chose the handball.it's not good for the team,when a lad plays 70mins in the league,starts for the 1st match in the champ,and is gone for the second match.

Fair enough I agree with that!! ;D Again I have seen him and played against him with his club - Drumgoon rely on him to carry the ball. At IC level, he is relatively comfortable on the ball  and if he had a wee bit more agression would make a good corner-back IMO.

On Brady, I agree with you 100%. it sends out a wrong message to others on the panel.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lars on June 17, 2010, 11:52:48 PM


Quote from: put-it-up on June 17, 2010, 11:30:28 PM
Quote from: Dougal on June 17, 2010, 11:25:55 PM
PIU,i think his point was a good player will stand out in any position,but a goalkeeper wouldnt be expected to to stand out,in,lets say midfield.

i really didnt rate hannon a few months ago,but i think he is a great corner back.never thought much of him at club level,but that was because he carried the ball far too much,which he doesnt do at county level.

Brady is a great player,and we could do with him,but not if he wont fully commit,and if i was in his boots,i would chose the handball.it's not good for the team,when a lad plays 70mins in the league,starts for the 1st match in the champ,and is gone for the second match.

Fair enough I agree with that!! ;D Again I have seen him and played against him with his club - Drumgoon rely on him to carry the ball. At IC level, he is relatively comfortable on the ball  and if he had a wee bit more agression would make a good corner-back IMO.

On Brady, I agree with you 100%. it sends out a wrong message to others on the panel.

Thats exactly what I was sayin. Dont want to go offending the goalies out there, know they have a hard job. Just wouldnt expect them to be out kicking points although some of them can do it.

I agree with the the point that it sends out the wrong message to the team and is proabably unfair to other members of the panel but i just have the opinion that Paul is a superb footballer of which Cavan dont have many. Due to this think whenever he is available he should be a definite starter.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on June 17, 2010, 11:54:57 PM
Quote from: Lars on June 17, 2010, 11:52:48 PM


Quote from: put-it-up on June 17, 2010, 11:30:28 PM
Quote from: Dougal on June 17, 2010, 11:25:55 PM
PIU,i think his point was a good player will stand out in any position,but a goalkeeper wouldnt be expected to to stand out,in,lets say midfield.

i really didnt rate hannon a few months ago,but i think he is a great corner back.never thought much of him at club level,but that was because he carried the ball far too much,which he doesnt do at county level.

Brady is a great player,and we could do with him,but not if he wont fully commit,and if i was in his boots,i would chose the handball.it's not good for the team,when a lad plays 70mins in the league,starts for the 1st match in the champ,and is gone for the second match.

Fair enough I agree with that!! ;D Again I have seen him and played against him with his club - Drumgoon rely on him to carry the ball. At IC level, he is relatively comfortable on the ball  and if he had a wee bit more agression would make a good corner-back IMO.

On Brady, I agree with you 100%. it sends out a wrong message to others on the panel.

Thats exactly what I was sayin. Dont want to go offending the goalies out there, know they have a hard job. Just wouldnt expect them to be out kicking points although some of them can do it.

I agree with the the point that it sends out the wrong message to the team and is proabably unfair to other members of the panel but i just have the opinion that Paul is a superb footballer of which Cavan dont have many. Due to this think whenever he is available he should be a definite starter.

So if Mickey Lyng, Eamon Reilly, James Reilly and feck it even Larry the great said they can't commit during they year but will play championship, would you have them too?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lars on June 18, 2010, 12:12:12 AM
Quote from: put-it-up on June 17, 2010, 11:54:57 PM
Quote from: Lars on June 17, 2010, 11:52:48 PM


Quote from: put-it-up on June 17, 2010, 11:30:28 PM
Quote from: Dougal on June 17, 2010, 11:25:55 PM
PIU,i think his point was a good player will stand out in any position,but a goalkeeper wouldnt be expected to to stand out,in,lets say midfield.

i really didnt rate hannon a few months ago,but i think he is a great corner back.never thought much of him at club level,but that was because he carried the ball far too much,which he doesnt do at county level.

Brady is a great player,and we could do with him,but not if he wont fully commit,and if i was in his boots,i would chose the handball.it's not good for the team,when a lad plays 70mins in the league,starts for the 1st match in the champ,and is gone for the second match.

Fair enough I agree with that!! ;D Again I have seen him and played against him with his club - Drumgoon rely on him to carry the ball. At IC level, he is relatively comfortable on the ball  and if he had a wee bit more agression would make a good corner-back IMO.

On Brady, I agree with you 100%. it sends out a wrong message to others on the panel.

Thats exactly what I was sayin. Dont want to go offending the goalies out there, know they have a hard job. Just wouldnt expect them to be out kicking points although some of them can do it.

I agree with the the point that it sends out the wrong message to the team and is proabably unfair to other members of the panel but i just have the opinion that Paul is a superb footballer of which Cavan dont have many. Due to this think whenever he is available he should be a definite starter.

So if Mickey Lyng, Eamon Reilly, James Reilly and feck it even Larry the great said they can't commit during they year but will play championship, would you have them too?

No i wouldnt for a few reasons.

I dont think Eamonn and Mickey are as important to Cavan as Paul is. Mickey is not the player he was a few years ago unfortunately he has gone way way back.
That is effectively what James Reilly did every year before this.
And finally Larry :) Larry in his prime could have done what he wanted he still would have been in my team :)


Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Terry Coyle on June 18, 2010, 09:32:41 AM
Quote from: Lars on June 18, 2010, 12:12:12 AM
Quote from: put-it-up on June 17, 2010, 11:54:57 PM
Quote from: Lars on June 17, 2010, 11:52:48 PM


Quote from: put-it-up on June 17, 2010, 11:30:28 PM
Quote from: Dougal on June 17, 2010, 11:25:55 PM
PIU,i think his point was a good player will stand out in any position,but a goalkeeper wouldnt be expected to to stand out,in,lets say midfield.

i really didnt rate hannon a few months ago,but i think he is a great corner back.never thought much of him at club level,but that was because he carried the ball far too much,which he doesnt do at county level.

Brady is a great player,and we could do with him,but not if he wont fully commit,and if i was in his boots,i would chose the handball.it's not good for the team,when a lad plays 70mins in the league,starts for the 1st match in the champ,and is gone for the second match.

Fair enough I agree with that!! ;D Again I have seen him and played against him with his club - Drumgoon rely on him to carry the ball. At IC level, he is relatively comfortable on the ball  and if he had a wee bit more agression would make a good corner-back IMO.

On Brady, I agree with you 100%. it sends out a wrong message to others on the panel.

Thats exactly what I was sayin. Dont want to go offending the goalies out there, know they have a hard job. Just wouldnt expect them to be out kicking points although some of them can do it.

I agree with the the point that it sends out the wrong message to the team and is proabably unfair to other members of the panel but i just have the opinion that Paul is a superb footballer of which Cavan dont have many. Due to this think whenever he is available he should be a definite starter.

So if Mickey Lyng, Eamon Reilly, James Reilly and feck it even Larry the great said they can't commit during they year but will play championship, would you have them too?

No i wouldnt for a few reasons.

I dont think Eamonn and Mickey are as important to Cavan as Paul is. Mickey is not the player he was a few years ago unfortunately he has gone way way back.
That is effectively what James Reilly did every year before this.
And finally Larry :) Larry in his prime could have done what he wanted he still would have been in my team :)

Let me guess you are a Mullahoran supporter. What you are saying here is ridiculous. Lads train all year and this builds morale. When someone comes in at the end of the season takes someones place on the Championship team and then f**ks off again then where is the morale gone now?? Who is going to fight alongside that player in next years Championship knowing that he will probably be gone the following week.

The lads said it right, he is a good footballer, better handballer, so choose the handball. And of course we can do without him, he wasnt even a stand out in the last game.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: handballer09 on June 18, 2010, 01:13:18 PM
How is it that Cork can accomodate dual players and some think Cavan shouldn't?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Terry Coyle on June 18, 2010, 01:35:02 PM
Quote from: handballer09 on June 18, 2010, 01:13:18 PM
How is it that Cork can accomodate dual players and some think Cavan shouldn't?

Because the games the Cork players play will not conflict with each other and they wont play one game and then head off.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on June 18, 2010, 01:35:41 PM
Quote from: handballer09 on June 18, 2010, 01:13:18 PM
How is it that Cork can accomodate dual players and some think Cavan shouldn't?

I assume it has to do with availability.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lars on June 18, 2010, 01:48:27 PM
No Terry Coyle I'm not a Mullahorn supporter I just rate Brady as a very good footballer. If he wasnt a stand out perfromer last Saturday (apart from his shooting) then who was?.We as a county arent blessed with an anbundance of top quality players so the few we do have should be accomodated. Yes he has stated that handball comes first so everybody knows the situation. At least he wants to play for his county.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on June 18, 2010, 01:51:37 PM
Givney was Cavan's stand out performer followed by Nesty.. then the rest were a fair bit off
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Terry Coyle on June 18, 2010, 02:01:47 PM
Celt_man got in ahead of me! Those two were the only ones. The man he was on was dropping deep the whole first half - Brady should have punished that and didnt. He is not a top class player that we cant do without. And before you go a rant he is worth his place when totally committed.

I am not even going to comment at your petty attempt to rise me saying at least he wants to play for his county.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on June 18, 2010, 02:27:02 PM
Looking like another year of disappoiontment at seniior county level so. Whos to blame who knows. somebody was saying on another thread that we have enough players to at least be that match of, better than the likes of Sligo, Louth, Tipp or whoever else will put a decent run together this year. They went on to suggest that where we seem to differ is that we haven't got a solid core of lads that have been brought in, persevered with and give a bit of consistency to the line up year on year. got me thinking of not that many years ago when were being competitive under val andrews and Eamon Coleman, the number of lads who were playing well for the county in those times and didn't really fully realise their potential/chucked it in etc. etc. theres a fairly long list without being complete:

James Reilly, Rory Donohoe, Rabbitte, Brides (still around but not the same player I'm afraid), Eamon Reilly, Collins, Crotty, Gaynor, Pauric Reilly (hasn't really delivered), Paddy Brady, Pierson, Sean Brady, Lyng, John Tierney, Joey Jordan, Crowe etc. etc. You coulld throw in the likes of Hannon and McKeever who were playing good football for the county when they were youngsters and seem to have gone off the boil.

County our size can't afford to be letting so many slip away. Imagine if just the following had delivered on their potential/stayed injury free and lined out last weekend-Rabbitte, Gaynor, Lyng, Pierson.


The real worry I would have is that in three years time we might be adding the likes of Givney and Cullivan to that list.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: full moon on June 18, 2010, 02:52:20 PM
We can't afford to lose players like Cullivan, players like him are what we should be building the future on. I heard rumours that he left the panel because Carr was being dictated to by senior players on who should be playing and what tactics are employed. This is no real suprise, Carr comes across as a weak willed man who has never had much success in any county.

Seanie Johnston was the main name mentioned. In my view it is irrlevent if Johnston is one of our top players or not, there is no way player should be dictating how ball is directed to him or who should play. So many problems, just another to add to the list.

I can't face the embarrassment of  being knocked about Wicklow two years running. They also beat us in the league last year.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on June 18, 2010, 02:59:34 PM
Quote from: full moon on June 18, 2010, 02:52:20 PM
We can't afford to lose players like Cullivan, players like him are what we should be building the future on. I heard rumours that he left the panel because Carr was being dictated to by senior players on who should be playing and what tactics are employed. This is no real suprise, Carr comes across as a weak willed man who has never had much success in any county.

Seanie Johnston was the main name mentioned. In my view it is irrlevent if Johnston is one of our top players or not, there is no way player should be dictating how ball is directed to him or who should play. So many problems, just another to add to the list.

I can't face the embarrassment of  being knocked about Wicklow two years running. They also beat us in the league last year.

I've highlighted the key word in your post there full moon - everything all that and taken with a pinch of salt given that word
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on June 18, 2010, 03:03:21 PM
FM
We havent played wicklow in the league since Donal Keoghan was over us when we beat them comfortably in Breffini,it must be someone else you're thinking of.

Id be fairly confident we can take them next Saturday.
Leighton Glynn needs to be man marked though,fantastic footballer.
Givney will be more than a match for James Stafford.
Discipline will be needed as Tony Hannon will put frees over from all angles.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on June 18, 2010, 03:07:31 PM
Quote from: Celt_Man on June 18, 2010, 02:59:34 PM
Quote from: full moon on June 18, 2010, 02:52:20 PM
We can't afford to lose players like Cullivan, players like him are what we should be building the future on. I heard rumours that he left the panel because Carr was being dictated to by senior players on who should be playing and what tactics are employed. This is no real suprise, Carr comes across as a weak willed man who has never had much success in any county.

Seanie Johnston was the main name mentioned. In my view it is irrlevent if Johnston is one of our top players or not, there is no way player should be dictating how ball is directed to him or who should play. So many problems, just another to add to the list.

I can't face the embarrassment of  being knocked about Wicklow two years running. They also beat us in the league last year.

I've highlighted the key word in your post there full moon - everything all that and taken with a pinch of salt given that word

The more im hearing about the set up CM,FM is not very far away from the truth..
I dont know about the Johnston dictating bit however however,i didnt hear that.
Noteable players didnt commit this year due to knowing what was going on in the set up.
i dont like throwing people under the bus from behind a username,as its the act of a coward,so im not going to name names.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on June 18, 2010, 03:09:46 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on June 18, 2010, 03:07:31 PM
Quote from: Celt_Man on June 18, 2010, 02:59:34 PM
Quote from: full moon on June 18, 2010, 02:52:20 PM
We can't afford to lose players like Cullivan, players like him are what we should be building the future on. I heard rumours that he left the panel because Carr was being dictated to by senior players on who should be playing and what tactics are employed. This is no real suprise, Carr comes across as a weak willed man who has never had much success in any county.

Seanie Johnston was the main name mentioned. In my view it is irrlevent if Johnston is one of our top players or not, there is no way player should be dictating how ball is directed to him or who should play. So many problems, just another to add to the list.

I can't face the embarrassment of  being knocked about Wicklow two years running. They also beat us in the league last year.

I've highlighted the key word in your post there full moon - everything all that and taken with a pinch of salt given that word

The more im hearing about the set up CM,FM is not very far away from the truth..
I dont know about the Johnston dictating bit however however,i didnt hear that.
Noteable players didnt commit this year due to knowing what was going on in the set up.
i dont like throwing people under the bus from behind a username,as its the act of a coward,so im not going to name names.

A sensible policy some of the football-related stories I've heard in the last couple of weeks have been hilarious - completely nonsense but funny all the same
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Terry Coyle on June 18, 2010, 03:26:51 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on June 18, 2010, 03:07:31 PM
Quote from: Celt_Man on June 18, 2010, 02:59:34 PM
Quote from: full moon on June 18, 2010, 02:52:20 PM
We can't afford to lose players like Cullivan, players like him are what we should be building the future on. I heard rumours that he left the panel because Carr was being dictated to by senior players on who should be playing and what tactics are employed. This is no real suprise, Carr comes across as a weak willed man who has never had much success in any county.

Seanie Johnston was the main name mentioned. In my view it is irrlevent if Johnston is one of our top players or not, there is no way player should be dictating how ball is directed to him or who should play. So many problems, just another to add to the list.

I can't face the embarrassment of  being knocked about Wicklow two years running. They also beat us in the league last year.

I've highlighted the key word in your post there full moon - everything all that and taken with a pinch of salt given that word

The more im hearing about the set up CM,FM is not very far away from the truth..
I dont know about the Johnston dictating bit however however,i didnt hear that.
<b>Noteable players didnt commit this year due to knowing what was going on in the set up.</b>
i dont like throwing people under the bus from behind a username,as its the act of a coward,so im not going to name names.

Hit the nail on the head there
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on June 18, 2010, 03:36:41 PM
Watch the game again and tell me that Nesty was our 2nd best player.Have nothing against the lad but look at the damage Mulrone No.4 did for Fermanagh.He was very influential for Fermanagh. Nesty was good on the ball but in the 2nd half he took an extra solo at times when it should have been delivered.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Terry Coyle on June 18, 2010, 03:43:34 PM
Quote from: boojangles on June 18, 2010, 03:36:41 PM
Watch the game again and tell me that Nesty was our 2nd best player.Have nothing against the lad but look at the damage Mulrone No.4 did for Fermanagh.He was very influential for Fermanagh. Nesty was good on the ball but in the 2nd half he took an extra solo at times when it should have been delivered.

True about the extra solo but definitely think he was our second best player. No one else really stood out.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on June 18, 2010, 03:58:07 PM
Quote from: boojangles on June 18, 2010, 03:36:41 PM
Watch the game again and tell me that Nesty was our 2nd best player.Have nothing against the lad but look at the damage Mulrone No.4 did for Fermanagh.He was very influential for Fermanagh. Nesty was good on the ball but in the 2nd half he took an extra solo at times when it should have been delivered.

BooJ, where did you want him to kick it too? We were crying out for a target-man and he never came. Trying to feed Mackey and Jelly you have to give a decent ball in front of them and that area was swamped out.

With regards to all the rumours and that shite, what is the reason why some of the Gaels lads won't go in? Some one PM me because I am sick of listening to the shame shite over and over again without the answer ever actually being said!

This current set-up is not good - I think that is common knowledge at this stage but a few players have consistently failed to perform under several managers. That is what really concerns me!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on June 18, 2010, 04:08:44 PM
Quote from: put-it-up on June 18, 2010, 03:58:07 PM
Quote from: boojangles on June 18, 2010, 03:36:41 PM
Watch the game again and tell me that Nesty was our 2nd best player.Have nothing against the lad but look at the damage Mulrone No.4 did for Fermanagh.He was very influential for Fermanagh. Nesty was good on the ball but in the 2nd half he took an extra solo at times when it should have been delivered.

BooJ, where did you want him to kick it too? We were crying out for a target-man and he never came. Trying to feed Mackey and Jelly you have to give a decent ball in front of them and that area was swamped out.

With regards to all the rumours and that shite, what is the reason why some of the Gaels lads won't go in? Some one PM me because I am sick of listening to the shame shite over and over again without the answer ever actually being said!

This current set-up is not good - I think that is common knowledge at this stage but a few players have consistently failed to perform under several managers. That is what really concerns me!

PM sent to you PIU.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Terry Coyle on June 18, 2010, 04:18:27 PM
Would you mind filling me in then?   :o
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Terry Coyle on June 18, 2010, 04:38:52 PM
PIU you answered your own question. Current set up is attrocious. Players are not going to commit to a shambles of a setup, putting in all the extra hours of training for that. They expect more. They expect a professional setup with a real belief that they are going somewhere. When you have the trainer of the team stealing/copying drills off a GAA coach in the county then that says it all.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: North Longford on June 18, 2010, 05:02:17 PM
QuoteWatch the game again and tell me that Nesty was our 2nd best player.Have nothing against the lad but look at the damage Mulrone No.4 did for Fermanagh.He was very influential for Fermanagh. Nesty was good on the ball but in the 2nd half he took an extra solo at times when it should have been delivered.

I'm glad someone else thinks that cos after the game last Sunday I listened to a lot of Cavan men who thought he was brilliant and I just couldn't see it.
One way to try and beat a packed defense is to try and move the ball quickly...his first thought is always to solo...no wonder there is a pile of men between him and the inside line. He can kick a good dead ball and sometime kicks a good score but also sometimes shoots from impossible positions.
BTW in McKeevers defense I believe he was injured in the first half of the game and could be out for a while.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on June 18, 2010, 05:17:36 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on June 18, 2010, 04:08:44 PM
Quote from: put-it-up on June 18, 2010, 03:58:07 PM
Quote from: boojangles on June 18, 2010, 03:36:41 PM
Watch the game again and tell me that Nesty was our 2nd best player.Have nothing against the lad but look at the damage Mulrone No.4 did for Fermanagh.He was very influential for Fermanagh. Nesty was good on the ball but in the 2nd half he took an extra solo at times when it should have been delivered.

BooJ, where did you want him to kick it too? We were crying out for a target-man and he never came. Trying to feed Mackey and Jelly you have to give a decent ball in front of them and that area was swamped out.

With regards to all the rumours and that shite, what is the reason why some of the Gaels lads won't go in? Some one PM me because I am sick of listening to the shame shite over and over again without the answer ever actually being said!

This current set-up is not good - I think that is common knowledge at this stage but a few players have consistently failed to perform under several managers. That is what really concerns me!

PM sent to you PIU.

If someone could fill me in too...
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Terry Coyle on June 18, 2010, 05:26:58 PM
Quote from: Celt_Man on June 18, 2010, 05:17:36 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on June 18, 2010, 04:08:44 PM
Quote from: put-it-up on June 18, 2010, 03:58:07 PM
Quote from: boojangles on June 18, 2010, 03:36:41 PM
Watch the game again and tell me that Nesty was our 2nd best player.Have nothing against the lad but look at the damage Mulrone No.4 did for Fermanagh.He was very influential for Fermanagh. Nesty was good on the ball but in the 2nd half he took an extra solo at times when it should have been delivered.

BooJ, where did you want him to kick it too? We were crying out for a target-man and he never came. Trying to feed Mackey and Jelly you have to give a decent ball in front of them and that area was swamped out.

With regards to all the rumours and that shite, what is the reason why some of the Gaels lads won't go in? Some one PM me because I am sick of listening to the shame shite over and over again without the answer ever actually being said!

This current set-up is not good - I think that is common knowledge at this stage but a few players have consistently failed to perform under several managers. That is what really concerns me!

PM sent to you PIU.

If someone could fill me in too...

Basically what I said in my previous post.

NL he was not brilliant just saying he was our second best player - shows how bad we were I suppose.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dougal on June 18, 2010, 06:01:57 PM
fill me in there while your at it BHman.

nesty wasnt anything great on sat,but he was our second best player.who else was better and why?because i cant think of anyone.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: North Longford on June 18, 2010, 06:12:32 PM
Didn't go back far enough in thread to see debate on where he ranked. More a general comment on how he played. Probably was one of the better ones, but I'd say there were a good few around the same rank i.e. did some good things but did some poor things also. As regards Nesty it would be more the long term I'd be concerned about. He gets on a good bit of ball but doesn't appear to release it very quickly. Johnson and Mackey need it delivered fast before a scatter of lads get back.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on June 18, 2010, 07:06:01 PM
Think Nesty was def our 2nd best player. He tackled back, made some intercertions, was hungry to get the ball when our half backs had it was kept going to the very end. Kicked almost all his frees, one from play. Jaysus what do you want. Whens the last time Lyng for example did anything like that for Cavan?? You can say he held onto it too long but the movement of Johnson and Mackay was pathetic at times and in the 2nd half when Fermanagh dropped extra men back he would have needed to put the ball through the eye of a needle to find them. Can't believe some are saying he was poor.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on June 18, 2010, 07:26:42 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on June 18, 2010, 07:06:01 PM
Think Nesty was def our 2nd best player. He tackled back, made some intercertions, was hungry to get the ball when our half backs had it was kept going to the very end. Kicked almost all his frees, one from play. Jaysus what do you want. Whens the last time Lyng for example did anything like that for Cavan?? You can say he held onto it too long but the movement of Johnson and Mackay was pathetic at times and in the 2nd half when Fermanagh dropped extra men back he would have needed to put the ball through the eye of a needle to find them. Can't believe some are saying he was poor.
I'll pull you up on the tackling back Myles. You're right in that he did make the effort but watch him off the ball. He stands looking until his man moves about 5-10 metres up the field. Then when his man gets it he makes a big energy-sapping, waste of time of a burst back. He's not alone but it is a serious failing in poor teams that they take the easy option and hope that their man doesn't get on the ball. A good manager would spot this of course.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on June 18, 2010, 09:40:04 PM
Quote from: Lawrence of Knockbride on June 18, 2010, 07:26:42 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on June 18, 2010, 07:06:01 PM
Think Nesty was def our 2nd best player. He tackled back, made some intercertions, was hungry to get the ball when our half backs had it was kept going to the very end. Kicked almost all his frees, one from play. Jaysus what do you want. Whens the last time Lyng for example did anything like that for Cavan?? You can say he held onto it too long but the movement of Johnson and Mackay was pathetic at times and in the 2nd half when Fermanagh dropped extra men back he would have needed to put the ball through the eye of a needle to find them. Can't believe some are saying he was poor.
I'll pull you up on the tackling back Myles. You're right in that he did make the effort but watch him off the ball. He stands looking until his man moves about 5-10 metres up the field. Then when his man gets it he makes a big energy-sapping, waste of time of a burst back. He's not alone but it is a serious failing in poor teams that they take the easy option and hope that their man doesn't get on the ball. A good manager would spot this of course.

Perhaps but I know for a fact he turned them over coming out of defence 3/4 times in the 1st half which is probably more than the rest of the other 5 forwards did in the whole match. Anyway, his primary role is to create and score and I believe he did both very well.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on June 18, 2010, 11:18:20 PM
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Crosserlough  0-15 2-10 Ballinagh 
Mullahoran  1-15 1-9 Lavey 

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Drung  0-12 2-8 Cootehill 
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Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on June 19, 2010, 08:18:57 AM
Quote from: North Longford on June 18, 2010, 06:12:32 PM
Didn't go back far enough in thread to see debate on where he ranked. More a general comment on how he played. Probably was one of the better ones, but I'd say there were a good few around the same rank i.e. did some good things but did some poor things also. As regards Nesty it would be more the long term I'd be concerned about. He gets on a good bit of ball but doesn't appear to release it very quickly. Johnson and Mackey need it delivered fast before a scatter of lads get back.

The only way that would happen is if you kicked the ball in before the Fermanagh team lined out  ;D In my opinion if you can't get through a wall you go over it and why a target man like Declan McKiernan wasn't introduced was baffling.

And Terry Coyle I know the set-up is muck, but I just dont think you should turn your back on your county because you think your club has a better set-up. No harm to ye Gaels boys, your the best club in Cavan (there I said it) but ya's have done feck all in Ulster and I don't think ya's have the right to feel you are too good for the county set-up.

I am sure Givney, Mackey and whoever else can see the flaws but there still in there trying for their county. In fairness I admire your lads for having the balls to say I don't agree with what is going on in there and if a few in the set-up spoke up, it might hav done some good, but I just don't think they should refuse to play.

It would be great to see them bringing their winning mentality and a few other things they do up in Terry Coyle into the county set-up and trying to improve it. Regardless who the manager is, players talk to each other and in training they can have their say and work on things without even bringing it to the manager's attention. (Like upping intensity, positioning in training games and just talking to each other about way's to improve).

Our new manager's first aim has to be a united Cavan. We could get in Charlie Sheen as a selector and get him to give the 'All for one and One for all speech' from the Three Musketeers ;D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on June 19, 2010, 02:54:09 PM
12 months or even 24 months ago most of us on here wanted 20-25 players that were committed to Cavan and would give their all. We were willing to accept that this may mean some of our most talented players would be left outside this group due to lack of commitment. I think more or less that is what we have. Leaving the panel due to being dropped or not joining it because the set up isn't sufficient is a cop out. I though cullivan might have seen sense and come back in but obviously not so good riddance to him I say. We have had plenty of lads over the years that thought they were bigger than the team and I am sick of hearing about them. I will not make too much criticism of the team from last day and I think they would have won only for Carr's complete non show on the line. I think most of them deserve a 2nd chance but I would make some changes. I'd like to see the following team against Wicklow...

Fintan Reilly
McPhillips
Corr
Hannon
Flanagan
McGuigan
Shierdan/McCutcheon
Givney
Galligan
Mackey
Nesty
Cahill
Brennan
McKiernan
Johnston

Assuming that Brady is gone with handball and McKeever is injured.

Wicklow will be a lot like Fermanagh. Men behind the ball, aggressive in the tackle, fit etc. Will Carr learn anything from the last game?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on June 19, 2010, 02:58:31 PM
Quote from: Celt_Man on June 18, 2010, 11:18:20 PM
ACFL Division 1
 
Redhills  0-10 0-11 Killygarry   
Cavan Gaels  0-6 1-10 Belturbet
Crosserlough  0-15 2-10 Ballinagh 
Mullahoran  1-15 1-9 Lavey 

ACFL Reserve Division 1 

Mullahoran  1-11 0-6 Lavey 

ACFL Division 2

Drung  0-12 2-8 Cootehill 
Killinkere  0-8 0-9 Drumlane

ACFL Division 3

Maghera  1-8 0-11 Corlough 
Ballymachugh  2-10 0-7 Kingscourt

Thursday 17th June 2010
ACFL Division 1
Gowna  0-8 0-12 Kingscourt

Jesus,thats a bit of a shocker,although Belturbet can always play the Gaels well and have beaten them a fair few times in the league in recent years.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on June 19, 2010, 04:17:44 PM
The debate above about the Gaels players not committing is very interesting.

I recall being at the Ulster club game versus Saint Galls and being extremely impressed with most aspects of the Gaels play that day. They probably gave Galls their toughest test of the year and but for the old failing of headlessness under pressure and indiscipline coming into play, Gaels might well have won. But there was still so much to admire in their tenacity, spirit, workrate, sheer balls sometimes, and I remember wondering why that isn't there when the county team play.

It's becoming clearer now anyway, back then I had a little bit more faith in TCarr but I can see why lads used to a high level of professionalism/preparation (such as was obviously being put in by the Gaels) would look at the county and decide not to bother. And if they don't really want to be there, you're always better off without.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on June 19, 2010, 06:25:15 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on June 19, 2010, 02:54:09 PM
12 months or even 24 months ago most of us on here wanted 20-25 players that were committed to Cavan and would give their all. We were willing to accept that this may mean some of our most talented players would be left outside this group due to lack of commitment. I think more or less that is what we have. Leaving the panel due to being dropped or not joining it because the set up isn't sufficient is a cop out. I though cullivan might have seen sense and come back in but obviously not so good riddance to him I say. We have had plenty of lads over the years that thought they were bigger than the team and I am sick of hearing about them. I will not make too much criticism of the team from last day and I think they would have won only for Carr's complete non show on the line. I think most of them deserve a 2nd chance but I would make some changes. I'd like to see the following team against Wicklow...

Fair fucks Myles,couldn't have said it better myself. Its disappointing that lads have walked away like Cullivan and Lyng but I really feel they would be better off sticking at it and proving their points and showing that they deserve to be starting.IMO by walking away they are achieving nothing.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dougal on June 20, 2010, 12:45:08 PM
people on HS are saying that givney injured himself and wont be able to play next weekend.anyone else hear this?if it's true,who should we have at midfield?

good post myles,if they arent interested in being there,then theres no point in them being there.also agree with cavanmaniac,the gaels came very close,a few lads lost the head a bit and that probably lost them the game,but you couldnt question their pride and determination.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Terry Coyle on June 20, 2010, 05:25:11 PM
Quote from: put-it-up on June 19, 2010, 08:18:57 AM
Quote from: North Longford on June 18, 2010, 06:12:32 PM
Didn't go back far enough in thread to see debate on where he ranked. More a general comment on how he played. Probably was one of the better ones, but I'd say there were a good few around the same rank i.e. did some good things but did some poor things also. As regards Nesty it would be more the long term I'd be concerned about. He gets on a good bit of ball but doesn't appear to release it very quickly. Johnson and Mackey need it delivered fast before a scatter of lads get back.

The only way that would happen is if you kicked the ball in before the Fermanagh team lined out  ;D In my opinion if you can't get through a wall you go over it and why a target man like Declan McKiernan wasn't introduced was baffling.

And Terry Coyle I know the set-up is muck, but I just dont think you should turn your back on your county because you think your club has a better set-up. No harm to ye Gaels boys, your the best club in Cavan (there I said it) but ya's have done feck all in Ulster and I don't think ya's have the right to feel you are too good for the county set-up.

I am sure Givney, Mackey and whoever else can see the flaws but there still in there trying for their county. In fairness I admire your lads for having the balls to say I don't agree with what is going on in there and if a few in the set-up spoke up, it might hav done some good, but I just don't think they should refuse to play.

It would be great to see them bringing their winning mentality and a few other things they do up in Terry Coyle into the county set-up and trying to improve it. Regardless who the manager is, players talk to each other and in training they can have their say and work on things without even bringing it to the manager's attention. (Like upping intensity, positioning in training games and just talking to each other about way's to improve).

Our new manager's first aim has to be a united Cavan. We could get in Charlie Sheen as a selector and get him to give the 'All for one and One for all speech' from the Three Musketeers ;D

Put It Up when did I ever say we were too good for the county set up? If lads choose not to go in then thats their business, nothing to do with ego or any other bull you are thinking. If you dont have a good setup then there is only so much players can do. You cant expect them to speak to each other and not listen to a manager. Jesus look at the French in the world cup and you can see how disrespect for a manger filters down to performances. We have won f**k all in Ulster but as some of the other lads said we were a whisker away from beating the eventual All Ireland winners with 12 men. Bloody stupid indiscipline and self destructing bet us but hopefully we have learned.

BHMan, terrible weekend for us both teams losing well. Were missing 15 players that are possible Championship starters and had two more injuries during the game. But Belturbet have always been our bogey team in the league. Jayo still doing the business for them. 
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on June 20, 2010, 05:29:55 PM
Drumlane and Ballyhaise promoted back to division one,with Shercock beating Knockbride today.
Absolutely delighted.
TC
how many players did you lads lose to the States in the end,i heard ridiculous numbers rnaging from 8-12?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dougal on June 20, 2010, 07:29:17 PM
Quote from: Terry Coyle on June 20, 2010, 05:25:11 PM
Quote from: put-it-up on June 19, 2010, 08:18:57 AM
Quote from: North Longford on June 18, 2010, 06:12:32 PM
Didn't go back far enough in thread to see debate on where he ranked. More a general comment on how he played. Probably was one of the better ones, but I'd say there were a good few around the same rank i.e. did some good things but did some poor things also. As regards Nesty it would be more the long term I'd be concerned about. He gets on a good bit of ball but doesn't appear to release it very quickly. Johnson and Mackey need it delivered fast before a scatter of lads get back.

The only way that would happen is if you kicked the ball in before the Fermanagh team lined out  ;D In my opinion if you can't get through a wall you go over it and why a target man like Declan McKiernan wasn't introduced was baffling.

And Terry Coyle I know the set-up is muck, but I just dont think you should turn your back on your county because you think your club has a better set-up. No harm to ye Gaels boys, your the best club in Cavan (there I said it) but ya's have done feck all in Ulster and I don't think ya's have the right to feel you are too good for the county set-up.

I am sure Givney, Mackey and whoever else can see the flaws but there still in there trying for their county. In fairness I admire your lads for having the balls to say I don't agree with what is going on in there and if a few in the set-up spoke up, it might hav done some good, but I just don't think they should refuse to play.

It would be great to see them bringing their winning mentality and a few other things they do up in Terry Coyle into the county set-up and trying to improve it. Regardless who the manager is, players talk to each other and in training they can have their say and work on things without even bringing it to the manager's attention. (Like upping intensity, positioning in training games and just talking to each other about way's to improve).

Our new manager's first aim has to be a united Cavan. We could get in Charlie Sheen as a selector and get him to give the 'All for one and One for all speech' from the Three Musketeers ;D

Put It Up when did I ever say we were too good for the county set up? If lads choose not to go in then thats their business, nothing to do with ego or any other bull you are thinking. If you dont have a good setup then there is only so much players can do. You cant expect them to speak to each other and not listen to a manager. Jesus look at the French in the world cup and you can see how disrespect for a manger filters down to performances. We have won f**k all in Ulster but as some of the other lads said we were a whisker away from beating the eventual All Ireland winners with 12 men. Bloody stupid indiscipline and self destructing bet us but hopefully we have learned.

BHMan, terrible weekend for us both teams losing well. Were missing 15 players that are possible Championship starters and had two more injuries during the game. But Belturbet have always been our bogey team in the league. Jayo still doing the business for them.

sure havent belturbet beaten you 3 times in the last 4 leagues?heard jayo scored 1-6 before coming off,hes playing good stuff at the minute.did i hear that doc collins is back for you?





ballyhaise and drumlane will be very hard stopped in the champ this year,im really not looking forward to meeting either.BHman,have many of your players went to america?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on June 20, 2010, 07:33:04 PM
Quote from: Dougal on June 20, 2010, 07:29:17 PM
Quote from: Terry Coyle on June 20, 2010, 05:25:11 PM
Quote from: put-it-up on June 19, 2010, 08:18:57 AM
Quote from: North Longford on June 18, 2010, 06:12:32 PM
Didn't go back far enough in thread to see debate on where he ranked. More a general comment on how he played. Probably was one of the better ones, but I'd say there were a good few around the same rank i.e. did some good things but did some poor things also. As regards Nesty it would be more the long term I'd be concerned about. He gets on a good bit of ball but doesn't appear to release it very quickly. Johnson and Mackey need it delivered fast before a scatter of lads get back.

The only way that would happen is if you kicked the ball in before the Fermanagh team lined out  ;D In my opinion if you can't get through a wall you go over it and why a target man like Declan McKiernan wasn't introduced was baffling.

And Terry Coyle I know the set-up is muck, but I just dont think you should turn your back on your county because you think your club has a better set-up. No harm to ye Gaels boys, your the best club in Cavan (there I said it) but ya's have done feck all in Ulster and I don't think ya's have the right to feel you are too good for the county set-up.

I am sure Givney, Mackey and whoever else can see the flaws but there still in there trying for their county. In fairness I admire your lads for having the balls to say I don't agree with what is going on in there and if a few in the set-up spoke up, it might hav done some good, but I just don't think they should refuse to play.

It would be great to see them bringing their winning mentality and a few other things they do up in Terry Coyle into the county set-up and trying to improve it. Regardless who the manager is, players talk to each other and in training they can have their say and work on things without even bringing it to the manager's attention. (Like upping intensity, positioning in training games and just talking to each other about way's to improve).

Our new manager's first aim has to be a united Cavan. We could get in Charlie Sheen as a selector and get him to give the 'All for one and One for all speech' from the Three Musketeers ;D

Put It Up when did I ever say we were too good for the county set up? If lads choose not to go in then thats their business, nothing to do with ego or any other bull you are thinking. If you dont have a good setup then there is only so much players can do. You cant expect them to speak to each other and not listen to a manager. Jesus look at the French in the world cup and you can see how disrespect for a manger filters down to performances. We have won f**k all in Ulster but as some of the other lads said we were a whisker away from beating the eventual All Ireland winners with 12 men. Bloody stupid indiscipline and self destructing bet us but hopefully we have learned.

BHMan, terrible weekend for us both teams losing well. Were missing 15 players that are possible Championship starters and had two more injuries during the game. But Belturbet have always been our bogey team in the league. Jayo still doing the business for them.

sure havent belturbet beaten you 3 times in the last 4 leagues?heard jayo scored 1-6 before coming off,hes playing good stuff at the minute.did i hear that doc collins is back for you?





ballyhaise and drumlane will be very hard stopped in the champ this year,im really not looking forward to meeting either.BHman,have many of your players went to america?

Only one Dougal,Shane Briody and he will be back for the championship,we have been very lucky with emigration/summer travels,only losing Slowey at the beginning of the year.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: beer baron on June 20, 2010, 10:47:02 PM
Was just looking at the betting there-Cavan are 8/11 to win-ridiculously short price,Wicklow must have been disgustingly bad last time out.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on June 20, 2010, 11:07:02 PM
Congrats BH Man. Good to get promotion tied up early and with Culivan without any distractions I'd fancy you for the double. I don't know much about Drumlane but you'd hope they'd make more of an effort next year than the shambles they were the last time they were in Division 1.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Terry Coyle on June 21, 2010, 09:37:24 AM
Yeah thats the 3rd year in a row they have beaten us. Yeah think Jayo scored about that. Few handy frees he scored but was about 1-2 I'd say from play.

9 players gone to the states from what I can remember, it possibly could be more. Its the second team thats being really affected now. Ah well we just got to deal with it - Cant begrudge lads going away especially in these times.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: PhilsJemmysField on June 21, 2010, 11:02:46 AM
Word is that Giveny has broken leg hopefully for the lads sake not true. Would be a serious knock at this stage in football life.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on June 21, 2010, 04:27:30 PM
Quote from: PhilsJemmysField on June 21, 2010, 11:02:46 AM
Word is that Giveny has broken leg hopefully for the lads sake not true. Would be a serious knock at this stage in football life.
Ah jaysus,someone tell me this isnt true

John Tierney(Injury problems)
Paddy Brady(Injury problems)

Now another great talent at Midfield,picking up a serious injury  >:(
Someone up there doesnt want Cavan, to progress.

Im particularly gutted for Givney himself,not even thinking about football,hopefully he can get himself right and fully healed up and that the leg doesnt give him any future pain or problems.
Get well soon David.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Terry Coyle on June 21, 2010, 05:13:06 PM
Sorry Dougal never replied to you. Yeah he was back then got his jaw broken in Kingscourt game, bad act.

All the best to Givney. The man has midfield position with Cavan for years to come barring injury so hopefully he will recover fuilly from this. We need young players like him.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dougal on June 21, 2010, 05:54:23 PM
i havent heard for sure if his leg is broken,but i did hear he was walking round on crutches yesterday before he got it checked out.hopefully he'll make a full recovery.we might have had bad luck in the past but look at mckiernan last year,came back where he left off.

TC,i was talking to a lad over the weekend,said he was certain doc was marking jayo?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4sam on June 21, 2010, 06:54:02 PM
I was talking to one of boys on the panel earlier and he said that Givney didn't break his leg but that he went over on his ankle, he was at training yesterday on crutches so it doesn't look good, will find out more later. where is salmon of knowledge when you need him???
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: whats my name on June 22, 2010, 01:30:23 AM
he didnt break his leg. its badly sprained and he is going for a scan tomorrow because they dont know if he has ligament damage or not.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Terry Coyle on June 22, 2010, 09:34:11 AM
Quote from: Dougal on June 21, 2010, 05:54:23 PM
i havent heard for sure if his leg is broken,but i did hear he was walking round on crutches yesterday before he got it checked out.hopefully he'll make a full recovery.we might have had bad luck in the past but look at mckiernan last year,came back where he left off.

TC,i was talking to a lad over the weekend,said he was certain doc was marking jayo?

Well that is definitely good news if it aint broken. Doubtful for Wicklow but if we get through that then hopefully he might be available.

That lad you were talking to must be seeing things Doc definitely wasnt marking him! He wasnt even at the game.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on June 22, 2010, 07:05:33 PM
http://www.gaa.ie/gaa-news-and-videos/daily-news/1/2206101652-givney-blow-for-cavan/
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on June 22, 2010, 07:26:45 PM
Quote from: put-it-up on June 22, 2010, 07:05:33 PM
http://www.gaa.ie/gaa-news-and-videos/daily-news/1/2206101652-givney-blow-for-cavan/

bollox...  >:( >:(
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on June 22, 2010, 08:25:08 PM
If Givney is gone we are seriously short in there. It means Mulvey could start with Galligan and we will have no cover on the bench.  With what we have to pick from here is what I would go with.

Fintan - Still not convinced but best we got at the minute
Hannon - Definetly deserves another chance after the performances of the two cornerbacks last week
Corr - Would be tempted to try Eoin Smith but TC doesn't fancy him
Cahill - but if he is not fit he shouldn't play
Flanagan - about time he got a proper chance in his natural position. He is better going forward and supporting
McGuigan
McCutcheon - Big fan. Hope he is fit
Sheridan - He is mobile and if he keeps it simple like he did at DCU then he is better than Mulvey
Galligan - Would rather him than Mulvey due to his mobility
McKeever - Not sure if he is fit
Nesty
Martin Reilly - Would have him there and let him swap in and out with Mackey. Reilly is very good inside for Killygarry
Jelly
Declan McK - Bit more strenght in there
Mackey
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lars on June 22, 2010, 09:32:11 PM
Agree with Put it Up think Sheridan should be given a go at midfield. He has himself in serious shape think its worth the gamble. Still think Martin Reilly is just too small for inter county football. Constantly gets outmuscled in games.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on June 22, 2010, 11:18:51 PM
Quote from: put-it-up on June 22, 2010, 08:25:08 PM
If Givney is gone we are seriously short in there. It means Mulvey could start with Galligan and we will have no cover on the bench.  With what we have to pick from here is what I would go with.

Fintan - Still not convinced but best we got at the minute
Hannon - Definetly deserves another chance after the performances of the two cornerbacks last week
Corr - Would be tempted to try Eoin Smith but TC doesn't fancy him
Cahill - but if he is not fit he shouldn't play
Flanagan - about time he got a proper chance in his natural position. He is better going forward and supporting
McGuigan
McCutcheon - Big fan. Hope he is fit
Sheridan - He is mobile and if he keeps it simple like he did at DCU then he is better than Mulvey
Galligan - Would rather him than Mulvey due to his mobility
McKeever - Not sure if he is fit
Nesty
Martin Reilly - Would have him there and let him swap in and out with Mackey. Reilly is very good inside for Killygarry
Jelly
Declan McK - Bit more strenght in there
Mackey
Not getting on your back but an honest question PIU.
You would leave out arguably the 2nd best forward we had against Fermanagh for what reason?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on June 22, 2010, 11:39:05 PM
Seriously lads
i have nothing against the guy and hes a very skillful footballer,but Martin Reily,is not strong enough or big enough for Senior IC football,ive seen him get pushed around and put on his arse numerous times over the last few years.
I dont know how anyone could have him on the team before the likes of Michael Brennan,who impressed the last day and has the physique to play county football.
Id like to see Brennan at wing forward,Gives mobility and a bit of size to the half forward line and also he will win his fair share of breaks.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on June 22, 2010, 11:49:38 PM
Quote from: boojangles on June 22, 2010, 11:18:51 PM
Quote from: put-it-up on June 22, 2010, 08:25:08 PM
If Givney is gone we are seriously short in there. It means Mulvey could start with Galligan and we will have no cover on the bench.  With what we have to pick from here is what I would go with.

Fintan - Still not convinced but best we got at the minute
Hannon - Definetly deserves another chance after the performances of the two cornerbacks last week
Corr - Would be tempted to try Eoin Smith but TC doesn't fancy him
Cahill - but if he is not fit he shouldn't play
Flanagan - about time he got a proper chance in his natural position. He is better going forward and supporting
McGuigan
McCutcheon - Big fan. Hope he is fit
Sheridan - He is mobile and if he keeps it simple like he did at DCU then he is better than Mulvey
Galligan - Would rather him than Mulvey due to his mobility
McKeever - Not sure if he is fit
Nesty
Martin Reilly - Would have him there and let him swap in and out with Mackey. Reilly is very good inside for Killygarry
Jelly
Declan McK - Bit more strenght in there
Mackey
Not getting on your back but an honest question PIU.
You would leave out arguably the 2nd best forward we had against Fermanagh for what reason?

Good question BooJ - he slipped my mind. In fairness I thought was one of our better performers the last day but I just think McKiernan is more of a threat in there with Jelly and Mackey operating off him. Also at 21 I think it is time Declan got some IC action.

However thinking about it again I would have Brennan at WF to give a dig out to our midfield because we are seriouslyy gona struggle there.  BIGTIME
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: gortnaleck on June 23, 2010, 01:13:50 AM
How is McGuigan looking? I can't remember him doing anything great against Fermanagh but I only watched it on the big screen.I also should be sending back reports on the big Cavan squad playing out on Treasure Island,but I haven't really got a handle on them yet.They have one game played and there is another full round on Sunday.Gearoid seems to be a mobile,big enough guy.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: beer baron on June 23, 2010, 12:41:52 PM
Anyone know if Mc Keevers available for the weekend yet?I felt he did ok last time out despite some poor distribution and should def start if fit he's a personal favourite of mine.I agree with some of the previous posts on Flanagan,i think he should definitely be in the half back line along with Mc cutcheon and Mc guigan who did ok for his 1st championship game playing in such a key position.As for Mickey brennan i think he has to be a cert to start somewhere in the forwards or 3rd midfielder,thought he was very good in the 1st half against Fermanagh before fading in second half.'IF' johnston needs all that strapping on his arm he shouldn't be playing in  my opinion because if you're carrying an injury you're never going to go for the ball as wholeheartedly as usual,sometimes you can block the injury out but with that much bandaging you'd never get it out of your mind.I'd chance Sheridan midfield as he is in my book better than walsh and Muvey.As for full back line,i don't know,Corr has to remain full back line as he did decent during the league and who can we put in anyway.Cahill's a player i am usually a fan of but obviously was off the pace after being out injured the last day out,hopefully back to himself saturday.Someone mentioned putting hannon in and i'd agree,i've been critical of him in the past but think he's worth another shot as he looks back to focussing on his speed and fitness rather than previous years where he looked to be spending too much time trying to bulk up in the gym.Hopefully the last game didn't damage Mackeys confidence too much as he really looked like he was going to step up to the level he showed underage during the league. Best of luck to all the lads anyway,must be sickening foor them going out and underperforming after busting their balls training for so long.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on June 23, 2010, 01:29:08 PM
I know we're extremely weak at MF but anyone that was at the Louth match might remember that Sheridan was completely anonomous around the middle. Just to keep the "you're the manager" theme going my team would be:

1. Fintan (with no confidence)
2. McPhilips
3. Corr (with no confidence)
4. Hannon
5. Cahill
6. McGuigan
7. Sheridan (if fit)
8. Galligan
9. Brennan/McKiernan
10.McKeever
11. Nesty
12. Flanagan
13. Johnston
14. Brennan/McKiernan
15. Mackey

I have no idea what the story with McPhilips and McCutcheon is so maybe they're carrying injuries. A lot of lads keeping their place on my team who were poor to average last time but I suppose when we look at what was a strong bench, it now looks weak enough.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on June 23, 2010, 05:23:45 PM
If McPhilips played would that mean he couldn't play in the Leinster final?

Spotted this in Hoganstand.  Made me smile ;D

Roinn D

Perturbed v Denn at 7.30pm
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: PhilsJemmysField on June 23, 2010, 05:25:11 PM
McKeever apparently has a chest injury out for 4 ~ 6 weeks.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dougal on June 23, 2010, 07:02:15 PM
i hear trev crowe is back in with the juniors,what a beast of a man.anyone heading down to drogheda to see them this day week?i hear the winner will be going to ruislip to play london in the semi final,it would be great for them if they did win.


yes denn forever,he wouldnt be allowed play.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on June 23, 2010, 09:20:59 PM
Lads that Leinster competition is a mickey mouse job and I wouldnt be getting too excited over it - just shows how desperate we are..

With regards to this weeekend  the more I think about it today the more I don't fancy us. When do our lot ever take the qualifiers serious? I hope we dont lose but imagine our championship season ended on the back of two home defeats to Fermanagh and Wicklow. Dare I say it, even under Keoghan I never thought we would get to that..
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lars on June 23, 2010, 10:38:49 PM
Mickey Mouse or not would still be nice to win something...anything!!

I think the lads will come out fighting against Wicklow and grind out the victory. Have to show some pride in the jersey.

Who's reign would you admire PIU?? Seen as ur using somewhat hushed tones over Keoghans
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Swadman on June 24, 2010, 01:58:25 PM
Just heard the sad news of the passing of Tommy McGivney form Denn. I got to know him from being at County Board meetings and Conventions a few years ago. I enjoyed his company and his wit at these (boring) events. He was a great character, If ever a man ate, dreamed, lived and loved GAA then he was surely it.
My condolences to his family and the Denn club. He will be missed by all.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cornafean on June 24, 2010, 02:03:54 PM
Quote from: Swadman on June 24, 2010, 01:58:25 PM
Just heard the sad news of the passing of Tommy McGivney form Denn. I got to know him from being at County Board meetings and Conventions a few years ago. I enjoyed his company and his wit at these (boring) events. He was a great character, If ever a man ate, dreamed, lived and loved GAA then he was surely it.
My condolences to his family and the Denn club. He will be missed by all.

Sad to hear that news. Tommy was an absolute gentleman. RIP
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on June 25, 2010, 07:18:23 PM
Fintan
Sheridan
Corr
Hannon
Brides
McCutcheon
Clarke
Galligan
Mulvey
Flanagan
Nesty
McGuigan
Mackey
Brennan
Martin Reilly
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on June 25, 2010, 07:22:38 PM
Quote from: boojangles on June 25, 2010, 07:18:23 PM
Fintan
Sheridan
Corr
Hannon
Brides
McCutcheon
Clarke
Galligan
Mulvey
Flanagan
Nesty
McGuigan
Mackey
Brennan
Martin Reilly

That confirmed BooJ? Doesnt inspire me with confidence at all. Sheridan has been left in the corner which is just baffling. That centre-back line has a lot to prove and I would imagine Brides will be given the job of picking up Glynn. And McGuigan WF is also a strange one after settling in to 6 all year.

Where has Cahill gone?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on June 25, 2010, 07:40:32 PM
Quote from: put-it-up on June 25, 2010, 07:22:38 PM
Quote from: boojangles on June 25, 2010, 07:18:23 PM
Fintan
Sheridan
Corr
Hannon
Brides
McCutcheon
Clarke
Galligan
Mulvey
Flanagan
Nesty
McGuigan
Mackey
Brennan
Martin Reilly

That confirmed BooJ? Doesnt inspire me with confidence at all. Sheridan has been left in the corner which is just baffling. That centre-back line has a lot to prove and I would imagine Brides will be given the job of picking up Glynn. And McGuigan WF is also a strange one after settling in to 6 all year.

Where has Cahill gone?

Cahill has been carrying an injury. I'm glad that they have at least started with fully fit lads and not lads carrying or returning from injuries.
Sheridan is in there to back Corr up,plain and simple. The best game I seen Sheridan play all year he was corner back against Roscommon where he was outstanding. No reason why he can't reproduce that.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on June 25, 2010, 07:50:44 PM
Do you reckon the likes of McPhillips, McKiernan and one or two others that would be touch and go are being held back for the juniors? McPhillips must surely be wondering why he isnt getting a chance after playing nearly every league game
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on June 25, 2010, 09:33:56 PM
Is that team confirmed? Unbelievable if it is correct. McGuigan wing forward????? I know he togged at FF for Belturbet against the gaels but what does that mean in inter county. Where has brides sprung from - i'm sorry but he's a player thats on the way down. Martin Reillys inclusion is ridiculous given that Wicklow will pack their defence just like Fermanagh and he'll get muscled out of it yet again. Where is Johnson - he is fit enough to play last time and 2 weeks later he is somehow less fit? Shierdan at corner back is not good (playing good against a woeful Roscommon in that position is hardly a measure of his suitability). I can't understand this unless it is some sort of smokescreen for the real team. Or maybe there is such trouble in the camp that half the players don't want to play for him?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on June 25, 2010, 11:14:53 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on June 25, 2010, 09:33:56 PM
Is that team confirmed? Unbelievable if it is correct. McGuigan wing forward????? I know he togged at FF for Belturbet against the gaels but what does that mean in inter county. Where has brides sprung from - i'm sorry but he's a player thats on the way down. Martin Reillys inclusion is ridiculous given that Wicklow will pack their defence just like Fermanagh and he'll get muscled out of it yet again. Where is Johnson - he is fit enough to play last time and 2 weeks later he is somehow less fit? Shierdan at corner back is not good (playing good against a woeful Roscommon in that position is hardly a measure of his suitability). I can't understand this unless it is some sort of smokescreen for the real team. Or maybe there is such trouble in the camp that half the players don't want to play for him?

Some strange moves alright that may not work but at least wait until you see how the team performs before passing judgement.
Jelly was always going to be touch and go,hopefully he will be fit to come on.
I'd imagine Martin Reilly will be dropping deep to make space for Mackey and Brennan.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on June 25, 2010, 11:23:21 PM
Quote from: boojangles on June 25, 2010, 11:14:53 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on June 25, 2010, 09:33:56 PM
Is that team confirmed? Unbelievable if it is correct. McGuigan wing forward????? I know he togged at FF for Belturbet against the gaels but what does that mean in inter county. Where has brides sprung from - i'm sorry but he's a player thats on the way down. Martin Reillys inclusion is ridiculous given that Wicklow will pack their defence just like Fermanagh and he'll get muscled out of it yet again. Where is Johnson - he is fit enough to play last time and 2 weeks later he is somehow less fit? Shierdan at corner back is not good (playing good against a woeful Roscommon in that position is hardly a measure of his suitability). I can't understand this unless it is some sort of smokescreen for the real team. Or maybe there is such trouble in the camp that half the players don't want to play for him?

Some strange moves alright that may not work but at least wait until you see how the team performs before passing judgement.
Jelly was always going to be touch and go,hopefully he will be fit to come on.
I'd imagine Martin Reilly will be dropping deep to make space for Mackey and Brennan.

Not passing judgement on the players at all but the if the management play this team in these positions then they have learned very little from the last game.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on June 26, 2010, 10:34:14 AM
I'd have to agree with Myles. Now maybe TC has done more homework than me and has a plan to counter Wicklow but it's hard to see. It's not just as bizarre as it first appeared when you think that we're missing Cahill, Johnson, Gunner, Givney and McKeever from the last day. But Brides only landed on the panel after the league I think. Eoin McPhilips must've done something wrong to TC but I assume whoever mentioned the junior final was joking. McCutcheon has been playing away for Cootehill but hasn't had a look-in recently. Anyway, sure we'll see what happens. I hope all the support will be there that was at the Fermanagh match or are we going to follow TC's lead and treat the back-door with disrespect?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on June 26, 2010, 12:03:31 PM
Sheridan at corner back is a joke if true, I can only assume Brides will drop back and Sheridan will maybe go to the wing back slot, where he actually made an impact against Fermanagh after being lead a merry dance before that?

I don't know what Clarke has done to retain his spot and McGuigan's positioning is odd as well.

Will be interesting to hear if Wicklow pack the defence and Cavan struggle as expected, will TC  (or whoever manages the team behind the scenes, if rumours here are anything to go by) even try and pitch a big man in there? Or will he have learned nothing from the past day, same as he learned nothing from the Antrim game the year before?

Martin Reilly is half the width of Gooch and not cut out for this level on a purely physical basis, although that said Micko's teams tend to play reasonably open football so maybe he mightn'd be to bad in this match.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: full moon on June 26, 2010, 01:47:59 PM
Dear oh dear, that team is atrocious.

I could see alot of club teams in divison 1 beating that line up, or at least giving them a run for their money. And in all honesty the club set up as we all know, is not at too high a level either.

McGuigan has a good game the last day at CB and suddenly he is in the forward line. Makes so much sense really... ::)

That team is an absolute embarrassment. Martin Reily still getting games, he has been put on his arse countless times. Mackay must have a certain starting place.

And as for that "midfield" and "defence" if that is what you want to call it, not worth even discussing how poor that is.

I thought Wicklow would win, now a cricket score could be on the cards if they bring their A game.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on June 26, 2010, 03:08:16 PM
Are St Vincent De Paul running Paddy Power now - Wicklow are 13/8.

Hand on heart, I would fancy the Gaels to beat that team.

Hope we dig out a win and get another day out but I don't think TC will have instilled any sense of hunger whatsoever.Here is to hoping that I am wrong
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on June 26, 2010, 05:32:53 PM
I have to echo some posters,i do not like the look of that team

Sheridan needs to be out wing back,
i dont think Brides has the legs for IC level anymore.
Eoin McGuigan done ok against Fermanagh,why disregard for Centre Half him after one game? It wasnt his fault Tommy McElory was running free up the wings.He will do a good job at wing forward as hes a very good all-round player.
Alan Clarke is lucky to be starting as he wasnt up to the pace the last day.
Midfield,well its all we have with our injuries.
Hopefully Martin Reily proves us wrong tonight and has a stormer,but id worry about him starting,as we have said"all the ability in the world",but no physical strength.
Wicklow by 5 for me,if that team lines out as per programme.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: full moon on June 26, 2010, 08:35:00 PM
Well, well, well.

The qualifier draw awaits. Bit of a miracle really.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on June 26, 2010, 08:59:40 PM
Speechless :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on June 26, 2010, 09:05:00 PM
We'll get Fermanagh after Monaghan hand them their arses tomorrow, and their balls in a carrier bag along with it, just watch.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on June 26, 2010, 09:11:17 PM
Quote from: cavanmaniac on June 26, 2010, 09:05:00 PM
We'll get Fermanagh after Monaghan hand them their arses tomorrow, and their balls in a carrier bag along with it, just watch.

And Wiclow were supposed to win.  Nothing seems to go to lan in this years championship.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on June 26, 2010, 09:12:56 PM
Yiiipppppppeeeeeeee ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Word is we're starting with 13 the next day!!!!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on June 26, 2010, 10:05:18 PM
Some performance
Have to give Carr credit for his substitutions and how he changed it when we went down to 13,We won almost every break after that.
Some feeling coming out of Breffini afterwards!!!!!  ;D  ;D  ;D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on June 26, 2010, 10:26:57 PM
Well fair f*ckin play to them. Never been prouder to watch a Cavan team. Wicklow completely imploded but I don't care that took serious balls and hunger to turn that around. Jelly was outstanding - something must have happened because he was tick as a bull when he came out after Half-Time and I knew he was mad to get out there and do his bit. Anyone else hear his post match interview? Interesting to say the least!

So much went wrong, so many mistakes were made but by Jaysus they rowed in and worked their feckin arses off and I think that is all we have ever wanted from them. Here is my take on the team.

Fintan - Thought he could have done alot more for the second and gave me a heart attack at the end when he dropped that!
Hannon - Great to see him back and enjoying his football. Terrific block at the end summed up his performance.
Corr - An absolute shocker. Couldn't believe he wasnt taken off. Interestingly Cahill was just about to come on for him before he got the gate but it was too late.
Sheridan - Done rightly - still think he would be better in HB line but we're badly stuck inside.
Brides - Worked hard and also rushed a Wicklow attacker right at the end to force a wide.
McCutcheon - I like the way he plays but I don't think he was at this best today. 70 mins should bring him on sharpness wise
Clarke - I thought he was excellent bar the free he took! Great man to break a tackle and constantly kept driving on in the second half, keeping Wicklow on the back foot.
Mulvey - Plonker - Lack of mobility was the cause of the penalty
Galligan - I've said it before, we are so limited in there but he covers ground and tries hard. Fair play
Flanagan - Very quiet early on but he was absolutly brilliant when we went down to 13. Proved to be a leader today.
Nesty - I think he is such an addition. If he had pace he wouldnt be far off the Dublin team. Glad to have him and I hope he sticks around even after Tommy goes.
McGuigan - Caught in two minds for the goal chance at the start but fair play to him he has a good attitude and worked tirelessly
Martin - Got on quite a few breaks but pushed off a few tips as BHM will have noticed :D The only position he can play at this level is inside
Brennan - He has won me over. His work ethic is great and he always seems to be looking for the ball. I think he is a better shooter than he lets on and shouldnt be afraid to have a pop.
Mackey - Was lucky to last the first half.

Jelly, Cahill and McKeever - Hats off to them. They turned the game around. Jelly was unreal and I can't wait to see the point he kicked from the corner again. He lifted the whole team when he came on and Cahill was brilliant aswell.

It was far from perfect, Wicklow completely died, but hats off to the lads for scraping out the win. Now all we have to worry about is which Cavan will turn up for the next qualifier.  8)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on June 26, 2010, 10:38:12 PM
Good summary PIU

Mossy Corr didnt have a good day,but the rest of the backline were terrific,Mickey H was outstanding and Dermot Sheridan was very solid.
Alan Clarke in particular for me was outstanding.Have to hold my hand up and say i was wrong about Brides selection,he was fantastic.
Galligan to be fair worked hard,Mulvey,well nothing needs to be said there,what he was at,il never know.
Mickey Brennan caught two balls and dominated when he came out to centre field, he will have to start there the next day.
The whole half forward line were so impressive,i dont know how Nesty couldnt get on the Dublin team,hes an absolute gem of a player.
Thats the best Ronan Flanagan has played in a couple of years,terrific.
Cian Mackey just has lost all his form he showed in the league.
Martin Reily mixed the good with the bad before he was taken off.
Eoin McGuigan's workrate was terrific.

Martin Cahill and McKeever won some amount of breaks
Jelly,well what can we say,Hes a Gaelic footballing genius
Dane o Dowd done very well when he came on aswell.

Mickey H to full back the next day
Michael Brides to corner
Martin Cahill to wing back
Mickey Brennan to midfield alongside Galligan
Jelly to start Full forward.
McKeever in for Martin Reily and dropping deep.
That will surely be the changes.


Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on June 26, 2010, 10:53:16 PM
Agree with most of what you said aswell BHM. That was so refreshing after the poxy defeat to Fermanagh. I know we are not going to win the All-Ireland anytime soon but that made me proud to be from Cavan today.

It gives us hope for the future because the players showed the fans they genuinely do care. Once that hunger is there we have a platform to build from. Well done again lads.

Has that win given TC a doggy life or is it still curtains for him?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on June 26, 2010, 10:56:19 PM

It depends on the next game id say PIU
If Tommy pulls out any more performances from the lads like that last 25 minutes,He will get another year for sure.
im looking forward to this 2nd round draw.
Knowing our luck,it will be Cork away!!!!  :(
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on June 26, 2010, 11:15:25 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on June 26, 2010, 10:56:19 PM

It depends on the next game id say PIU
If Tommy pulls out any more performances from the lads like that last 25 minutes,He will get another year for sure.
im looking forward to this 2nd round draw.
Knowing our luck,it will be Cork away!!!!  :(

After that performance, I would happily fill up the petrol tank, butter the sandwiches, fill the flask full of tae and set off for Cork.

As I said I congratulate them all but I still dont think TC had all that much to do with it. It took balls to drop Cahill, Jelly and McKeever but even Stevie Wonder would have known to bring them on. Cahill shoulda been on sooner anyway before Corr even got sent off.

Wicklow completely bottled and in the first half we look inept after we wasted two early goal chances but was so delighted to see our players not just accepting that we were goin to lose.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on June 26, 2010, 11:40:37 PM
Tremendous come back lads but it may seem a little harsh to say this but I call it as I see it. Carrs team selection completely backfired. For me Mcguigan was at sea at wing forward, Mulvey was pathetic, martin reilly very poor. In fact the 1st half was one of the worst shows I have ever seen from a Cavan team with the exception of Hannon and Nesty. When Mulvey the clown got the line it left us with 1 man inside. Few of the lads around me were saying that with 1 forward against 3/4 backs Carr will need a big man in there. Instead he stuck on Johnson. Was this genius? I thought it was stupid to expect Johnson to beat the entire Wicklow back line on his own - but that is exactly what he did. First few seconds he wins a ball with 3 men on his tail and just hits it over the bar 1st time. Prior to this there was no belief, confidence and certainly no work rate worth talking about. His next point was from the corner flag (maybe 5 yrds in from end line and side line) on the right hand side with his right foot and straight over the bar. Don't think you will see a better score all year. At this stage he had 4 men marking him and suddenly Cavan start to believe. Brennan in midfield start cleaning up and then there is backs putting their bodies on the line. At this point McCutcheon start running after guys like a demon, Cahill and McKeever come on like someone gave them speeds. Every Cavan player suddenly want to win. It was one of the most amazing transformations I have ever seen in a match. I hope a corner has been turned and that in future we start games with this level of effort. But tonight I am proud of the team and glad I drove 200 miles return trip to watch it.

PIU - heard the Johsnon interview on Northern Sound. Yon tool asked him where he was at the start of the match and Johnson pointed to the dug out and said "I was sitting down there". Why didn't you start says yer man - " I don't pick the team" says Johnson. He was not dropped due to injury anyhow, maybe Carr was clever enough to try and get a reaction from him or maybe he was stupid enough to leave a genius of a forward on the bench - take your pick.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: whats my name on June 26, 2010, 11:49:38 PM
johnstone didnt start because he didn't train once since the loss to fermanagh that was the main reason so i heard
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on June 27, 2010, 12:00:05 AM
I heard that about Johnston too and it did take balls to drop the trio but it got a reaction out of them alright.  But it still hasnt changed one feeling I have about TC. The improved was more of a thing generated by  the players because I think they realised if they lost to Wicklow two years a row and this time at home that they would never be forgive.

Agree on the first half Myles but after some of the shite we have seen in recent times I am just going to focus on the second half and be proud of 13 men that ran their socks off and hassled, tackled and blocked for their county.

The Johnston interview was great - your man was completely stumped and didn't know what to say and tried to defend Carr and Co. By god I reckon any of us could give better coverage than the current Northern Sound lot.

Just shows what Johnston is capable of if he feels he has a point ot prove rather than strutting around the place with an I'm better than you attitude. He was brilliant today and he lifted the entire team so much as soon as he swung that first point.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on June 27, 2010, 12:17:31 AM
Great Night for Cavan GAA
It was announced as the teams were leaving that Paul Brady won his 6 in a row at the US Nationals against David Chapman???
It got a great cheer at the end.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on June 27, 2010, 12:53:41 AM
Fantastic effort in the 2nd half and showed what this bunch of players can do when they dig deep. They made people proud tonight because they gave it their all and showed serious hunger and balls and thats all we can ask for.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dougal on June 27, 2010, 03:42:00 AM
shite first half,but what a difference jelly made when he came on,that point from the end line is the best you'll see this year,if not ever.great to see some pride again.hannon was very good,i was harsh on him earlier in this thread,but i think i said somewhere that i would like to see him starting.corr isnt up to full back,and that was the 3rd or 4th time he let in such a goal this year.mcguigan was useless in the first half,but worked his socks off.toastie was better than i expected him to be.i was ready to leave at half time,and ive never left a match early,but that first half performance really made me think if i was well in the head staying there.it'll not happen again.leitrim waterford and possibly fermanagh in the next round of the qualifiers,we should be fit to beat any of them if we play to our capabilities.

didnt hear the interview on NS,only turned it on when cahill came on(i think),at least he admitted that we had nothing to be proud of before today.

excuse my spelling and puctuation and all that,cos im pretty full.

CAVAN FOR SAM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: sams the aim on June 27, 2010, 05:24:55 AM
the thing is folks he is better than the rest and thats why people are so hard on him. you see the bradleys in derry quittin, maybe he didnt train but i no he tried to tog out against belturbet for his club and cudnt play due to injury,so i presume thats why he cudnt train, we have a genuine jewel along with a few others folks der is no need to abuse them and i  dnt think people realise the true extent of  Johnstons injury he got a good few months ago, u have somebody who requires more serious surgery on his arm and is putting it off to try and help out a poor cavan team when there is a lot better chance of club success and all cavan fans do is abuse him, dnt see why, the lads out the field were a credit tonight and thats all johnston kept saying in his interview, well done to all of them
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: 13aside on June 27, 2010, 09:49:28 AM
well done to Cavan last night,heard a bit on radio and it didnt sound good at the start of the second half but what a turnaroundfrom the team-congratulations!!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on June 27, 2010, 01:05:11 PM
I think this pic sums up the kind of mood Johnston was in

http://www.sportsfile.com/id/437721/

This one made me smile too!

http://www.sportsfile.com/id/437787/
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on June 27, 2010, 04:31:34 PM
Quote from: put-it-up on June 27, 2010, 01:05:11 PM
I think this pic sums up the kind of mood Johnston was in

http://www.sportsfile.com/id/437721/

This one made me smile too!

http://www.sportsfile.com/id/437787/

Not out supporting the club today PIU?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on June 27, 2010, 05:16:49 PM
Heard the Johnston interview there earlier - very interesting to say the least.  I didn't realise there was more to it than I thought.

Thanks to Drumalee juniors for doing us a favour and taking a point off Bailieboro.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on June 27, 2010, 05:22:01 PM
You can't have Gareth back.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on June 27, 2010, 08:09:36 PM
Re-Read my post after the match and i noticed I forgot to mention properly the efforts put in around the middle by the like of Brennan, Galligan, Flanagan, McCutcheon, Cahill and even Dane O Dowd when he came on. They did us proud when the hard questions were asked. Hopefully the draw will be kind to us.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on June 27, 2010, 09:22:40 PM
I think a kind draw and a small step up in opposition is just what the team needs to get some momentum and progress going. If this win doesn't put some fizz back in the bottle, nothing will.

That said, I have very little confidence left in TC after Antrim last year and Fermanagh this year, and I have an awful feeling this performance could be a flash in the pan like the Down league performance two seasons ago, which came from nowhere and wasn't built on.

I'd obviously love to be wrong there and clearly, the players that dug deep and produced when the chips were down - admittedly against weak opposition - deserve a lot of credit for turning around an impossible situation. It's something we haven't produced in championship since McCabe on one leg put Down to the sword in that replay in Breffni a few years back when under Eamon Coleman.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on June 27, 2010, 10:03:54 PM
After the euphoria has died down a little it will as usual to see what TC does next.
I believe that about 90% of the second half performance was down solely to the players. As Myles mentioned, just because Johnston beat four men doesn't mean it was right not to put a big man up beside him.
Will Thomas Corr still be FB the next day. I would say he shouldn't but then I've been saying that since the McKenna Cup. Sheridan or Hannon isn't the long term answer but it might be in the short term unless he's going to give Eoin Smith a chance.
Who will play CB? I'd be putting McGuigan back and McCutcheon beside him. Who will replace Mulvey? It's not a hard job to replace him but will we see Brennan start there or will Declan McKiernan be introduced. And who will take the full-forward position if Brennan does come out to the middle. As great and as proud a day as it was for the county I think TC has even more questions to answer.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on June 27, 2010, 10:54:27 PM
Highlights coming up now on Sunday Game...
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on June 27, 2010, 11:17:59 PM
Quote from: Celt_Man on June 27, 2010, 10:54:27 PM
Highlights coming up now on Sunday Game...
I wonder was Mulvey watching.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on June 27, 2010, 11:20:12 PM
Quote from: Lawrence of Knockbride on June 27, 2010, 11:17:59 PM
Quote from: Celt_Man on June 27, 2010, 10:54:27 PM
Highlights coming up now on Sunday Game...
I wonder was Mulvey watching.

Corr's was never a second yellow
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on June 27, 2010, 11:44:49 PM
But know what happened Galvin when he laid hands on the Referee.

As you say he was being fouled but you can't strike out.  Reminiscent of the poor limerick hurler who got straight red last week.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on June 28, 2010, 12:20:50 AM
Quote from: Denn Forever on June 27, 2010, 11:44:49 PM
But know what happened Galvin when he laid hands on the Referee.

As you say he was being fouled but you can't strike out.  Reminiscent of the poor limerick hurler who got straight red last week.

Ahh I'd find them as completely different.  As I saw it Corr was putting his hand out to fend off the opponent and caught him high - completely accidental ... didn't warrant a foul never mind a second yellow
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on June 28, 2010, 12:29:55 AM
Mulvey.  ::)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: whats my name on June 28, 2010, 08:31:53 AM
cavan vs cork in cork i know we are not going to win this one but if we can play like we played against wicklow and try and keep the score from an absolute mauling ill be happy. it will show there is a bit of fight in us
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4sam on June 28, 2010, 08:34:20 AM
Disappointed with the draw lads, we couldn't have got a harder draw. Hopefully the lads can go down and give a good account of themselves.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on June 28, 2010, 08:35:47 AM
Worst possible draw and venue. >:(
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: beer baron on June 28, 2010, 08:38:14 AM
And counihan in Breffni watching the game on Saturday and all.....
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Babe Ruth 47 on June 28, 2010, 08:53:05 AM
Thats some reward! Will make for a bit of an adventure all the same, a weekend in Cork will be nice.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on June 28, 2010, 10:03:23 AM
It's about damage limitation. Going from the Fermanagh and Wicklow standard up to Cork standard will expose the team cruelly I think, like was said above, I hope we keep the score down and come out of it with something to build on.

At least we'll be able to say that the eventual All-Ireland finalists had to beat Cavan to get there.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on June 28, 2010, 10:16:45 AM
Sport can be cruel, that draw is a nightmare. Well I suppose Sligo went to Kerry last year and frightened the shite out of them so maybe we can take some solace from that (I'm trying to be optomistic)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on June 28, 2010, 11:26:18 AM
Not ideal but as myles said its been done before.

It will be a good weekend away.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: full moon on June 28, 2010, 11:42:42 AM
FFS worst possible draw.

Lets be honest, we are not good enough to win this game.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on June 28, 2010, 12:10:48 PM
Well bollox to that anyway....
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tierworker blue on June 28, 2010, 01:18:02 PM
Ah jaysus...
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on June 28, 2010, 01:23:06 PM
f**k sake,it had to be Cork  ::)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dougal on June 28, 2010, 01:30:16 PM
how long does it take to get to cork,3 and a half hours or so?whats the best way,dublin or portlaois?

couldnt of got a worse draw,but il be more than happy if i come home having seen the same sort of display as saturday night.cork are a massive team,and were quite a small team,will tommy try and introduce a few more big players.will he keep mickey in the forwards,where he's doing alright,or will he bring him out to midfield.will givney be back?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on June 28, 2010, 01:42:47 PM
Quote from: Dougal on June 28, 2010, 01:30:16 PM
how long does it take to get to cork,3 and a half hours or so?whats the best way,dublin or portlaois?

couldnt of got a worse draw,but il be more than happy if i come home having seen the same sort of display as saturday night.cork are a massive team,and were quite a small team,will tommy try and introduce a few more big players.will he keep mickey in the forwards,where he's doing alright,or will he bring him out to midfield.will givney be back?

We'll probably hit every tolled motorway in the country on the way down.... but sure it'll be worth it
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BigMac on June 28, 2010, 02:08:37 PM
From what I hear Givney is going to be out for another eight weeks. Im fairly sure my source is reliable.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on June 28, 2010, 02:09:05 PM
Cork nearly lost the Munster final last year to Limerick. They obviously were a little complacent and Limerick really got in their faces and stopped them making those famous bursting powerful runs from deep. That is a video that Tommy Carr should look at and base a plan of action around. They say this is the best time to get a team like Cork, its only a pity it is down there. God be with the days when the "weak" county got home advantage until the GAA did away with that rule (remember we lost in extra time to Derry in Derry years ago, well amazingly Derry were supposedly the weak team in that draw against us and so got home draw).
We will need to play a 2 man FF line of Mackey and Johnson, Nesty on the 45 and everyone else behind the ball. Short kick outs and kicks to the wings will be needed cos sticking high ball into Corks midfield diamond will be suicide. f**k it the lads showed some balls last day, the pressure is off and no one expects anything so why not give it a shot, bust a gut and see what happens.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on June 28, 2010, 02:54:43 PM
The worst thing about this draw is the distance. Who would have been a god draw?

The plus point is that we are not playing neighbours (a dogfight) or  a Northern team (familiarity and a dogfight).

If we wanted the players to be motivated how can you not be motivated playing last year's finalist?

It will be a good benchmark for the player to see what level they have to achieve if they want to give it a good rattle next year.


So onward go our destiny!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on June 28, 2010, 02:55:25 PM
This be in Pairc ui Chaoimh or Pairc i Rinn?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on June 28, 2010, 07:09:33 PM
Saturday 10 July

All-Ireland SFC Qualifiers - round 2

Kildare or Antrim v Leitrim, Newbridge, 7.00pm or Casement Park, 5.00pm

Dublin v Tipperary, Croke Park, 6.00pm - live on TV3

Cork v Cavan, Pairc Ui Chaoimh, 7.00pm

Offaly v Waterford, Tullamore, 5.00pm

Galway or Sligo v Wexford, Pearse Stadium or Markievicz Park, 2.00pm - live on RTE

Down v Longford, Newry, 7.00pm

Westmeath v Derry, Cusack Park, 5.00pm


Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on June 28, 2010, 07:12:23 PM
Jesus talk about David and Goliath and that time is a joke for fans looking to travel. It should have been earlier than that..Unless I make a weekend of it  ;D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on June 28, 2010, 09:16:11 PM
Quote from: boojangles on June 27, 2010, 04:31:34 PM
Quote from: put-it-up on June 27, 2010, 01:05:11 PM
I think this pic sums up the kind of mood Johnston was in

http://www.sportsfile.com/id/437721/

This one made me smile too!

http://www.sportsfile.com/id/437787/

Not out supporting the club today PIU?

I was working in Dublin BooJ. Injuries and old age have caught up with my playing days  :'( I hear the goals were the difference.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: beer baron on June 29, 2010, 08:25:59 AM
Quote from: put-it-up on June 28, 2010, 07:12:23 PM
Jesus talk about David and Goliath and that time is a joke for fans looking to travel. It should have been earlier than that..Unless I make a weekend of it  ;D

Thinking along similar lines myself!Supposedly a great spot to go out and the ladies(if thats what you call them) love our accents!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on June 29, 2010, 11:15:47 AM
Will Pairc Ui Chaoimh hold the crowd I wonder?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: beer baron on June 29, 2010, 12:14:14 PM
Quote from: cavanmaniac on June 29, 2010, 11:15:47 AM
Will Pairc Ui Chaoimh hold the crowd I wonder?

I'd say it'll hold all 200 of us  :P
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on June 29, 2010, 06:51:30 PM
Quote from: beer baron on June 29, 2010, 08:25:59 AM
Quote from: put-it-up on June 28, 2010, 07:12:23 PM
Jesus talk about David and Goliath and that time is a joke for fans looking to travel. It should have been earlier than that..Unless I make a weekend of it  ;D

Thinking along similar lines myself!Supposedly a great spot to go out and the ladies(if thats what you call them) love our accents!

Yeah I hear they are made for little langers Beer Baron  ;D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on June 29, 2010, 09:22:19 PM
Any word on the team for the Junior final tomorrow?  Was there any new drafted into the panel since the semi final?  Did I hear correctly that Trevor Crowe was training with them last week?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dougal on June 29, 2010, 10:17:01 PM
trevor crowe is back with them,barry reilly is in there aswell.midfield will be taite and crowe im guessing.hopefully ill know the team by dinner time tomorrow,and ill put it up if it hasnt been announced.looking forward to it,should be a good enough game.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on June 29, 2010, 10:34:30 PM
We could do with Trevor in Cork saturday week,i wonder if hes interested?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on June 29, 2010, 10:47:18 PM
We could do with Dermot and Larry aswell. Just promise Larry there will be a night out in Cork and he will come  ;D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dougal on June 29, 2010, 10:53:25 PM
sure invite jayo while your at it,he'll not turn down the night on the sauce either. ;D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: beer baron on June 29, 2010, 11:16:07 PM
Quote from: Dougal on June 29, 2010, 10:53:25 PM
sure invite jayo while your at it,he'll not turn down the night on the sauce either. ;D

Was tempted to ask him had he his boots at half time saturday
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: beer baron on June 29, 2010, 11:17:21 PM
Quote from: put-it-up on June 29, 2010, 06:51:30 PM
Quote from: beer baron on June 29, 2010, 08:25:59 AM
Quote from: put-it-up on June 28, 2010, 07:12:23 PM
Jesus talk about David and Goliath and that time is a joke for fans looking to travel. It should have been earlier than that..Unless I make a weekend of it  ;D

Thinking along similar lines myself!Supposedly a great spot to go out and the ladies(if thats what you call them) love our accents!

Ah sure makes no difference to me anyway,i've always got an orderly cue looking for a slice of the baron!

Yeah I hear they are made for little langers Beer Baron  ;D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on June 29, 2010, 11:20:14 PM
Quote from: Dougal on June 29, 2010, 10:53:25 PM
sure invite jayo while your at it,he'll not turn down the night on the sauce either. ;D

Ah now we're talking. I was taking the mick out of some of the Dublin lads on another thread and one said our lads were on a 4 day bender after the Fermanagh game - so maybe Larry's spirit lives on  ;D

I'd say I will tip down to the game 2moro night from Dublin for a nose. Anyone know roughly what kind of team to expect? I haven seen them play this year to be honest.

And beer baron in fairness, I was gonna ask my mate who hasn played football in 3 years had he his boots with  ;D Randon thought here, but Anyone else notice how Corr turns like a double decker bus in big semi-circles??

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on June 29, 2010, 11:21:06 PM
Quote from: beer baron on June 29, 2010, 11:17:21 PM
Quote from: put-it-up on June 29, 2010, 06:51:30 PM
Quote from: beer baron on June 29, 2010, 08:25:59 AM
Quote from: put-it-up on June 28, 2010, 07:12:23 PM
Jesus talk about David and Goliath and that time is a joke for fans looking to travel. It should have been earlier than that..Unless I make a weekend of it  ;D

Thinking along similar lines myself!Supposedly a great spot to go out and the ladies(if thats what you call them) love our accents!

Ah sure makes no difference to me anyway,i've always got an orderly cue looking for a slice of the baron!

Yeah I hear they are made for little langers Beer Baron  ;D

You dawg..woof woof  ;D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on June 29, 2010, 11:25:31 PM
Quote from: put-it-up on June 29, 2010, 11:20:14 PM
Quote from: Dougal on June 29, 2010, 10:53:25 PM
sure invite jayo while your at it,he'll not turn down the night on the sauce either. ;D

Ah now we're talking. I was taking the mick out of some of the Dublin lads on another thread and one said our lads were on a 4 day bender after the Fermanagh game - so maybe Larry's spirit lives on  ;D
I'd say I will tip down to the game 2moro night from Dublin for a nose. Anyone know roughly what kind of team to expect? I haven seen them play this year to be honest.

And beer baron in fairness, I was gonna ask my mate who hasn played football in 3 years had he his boots with  ;D Randon thought here, but Anyone else notice how Corr turns like a double decker bus in big semi-circles??

Aye saw that alright... you should have known better they are still very tender over their annual hiding in Croker but they are just not used to hit happening so early in the summer!!! They deserve it all though!!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on June 29, 2010, 11:27:20 PM
Quote from: Celt_Man on June 29, 2010, 11:25:31 PM
Quote from: put-it-up on June 29, 2010, 11:20:14 PM
Quote from: Dougal on June 29, 2010, 10:53:25 PM
sure invite jayo while your at it,he'll not turn down the night on the sauce either. ;D

Ah now we're talking. I was taking the mick out of some of the Dublin lads on another thread and one said our lads were on a 4 day bender after the Fermanagh game - so maybe Larry's spirit lives on  ;D
I'd say I will tip down to the game 2moro night from Dublin for a nose. Anyone know roughly what kind of team to expect? I haven seen them play this year to be honest.

And beer baron in fairness, I was gonna ask my mate who hasn played football in 3 years had he his boots with  ;D Randon thought here, but Anyone else notice how Corr turns like a double decker bus in big semi-circles??

Aye saw that alright... you should have known better they are still very tender over their annual hiding in Croker but they are just not used to hit happening so early in the summer!!! They deserve it all though!!

Check out my reply CM, that should shut him up for a while ;D

Lads I have just realised something that is absolutlely disastrous regarding our hopes against the bellends Rebels.

Would you believe that Croke Park have gone and organised us to play a match on the weeknd of Oxegen again. Will we get enough to field a team ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: PhilsJemmysField on June 30, 2010, 10:55:25 AM
The big Cavan game coming up is the minors and can we finally win two games at this level. If we could get to an Ulster final it would be a start. Any word on challenge matches or any form of team news from the minor camp
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dougal on June 30, 2010, 01:56:08 PM
team for tonight,i think is.

1.darren murphy
2.eoin mcphillips
3.eoin smith
4.mark johnson
5.niall reilly
6.?????
7.kevin donohue
8.trevor crowe
9. adrian taite
10.stephen jordan
11.raymond galligan
12.?????
13.eamonn reilly
14.declan mckiernan
15.phillip brady



cant for the life of me remember the other 2 lads.thats a decent team,will be hard beat.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on June 30, 2010, 03:41:27 PM
Best of luck to the board member playing tonight aswell  ;)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on June 30, 2010, 04:30:21 PM
Quote from: Dougal on June 30, 2010, 01:56:08 PM
team for tonight,i think is.

1.darren murphy
2.eoin mcphillips
3.eoin smith
4.mark johnson
5.niall reilly
6.?????
7.kevin donohue
8.trevor crowe
9. adrian taite
10.stephen jordan
11.raymond galligan
12.?????
13.eamonn reilly
14.declan mckiernan
15.phillip brady



cant for the life of me remember the other 2 lads.thats a decent team,will be hard beat.
I'd say you have them all there Dougal. :)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dougal on June 30, 2010, 05:16:42 PM
6.padraig cahill
12.darren costello
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4sam on June 30, 2010, 05:31:15 PM
just want to echo the best wishes of the other board members to the team tonight and especially to our board member taking to the field
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on June 30, 2010, 06:12:30 PM
Cork v Cavan qualifier brought forward by four hours
30 June 2010


Cork's All-Ireland SFC qualifier game with Cavan in Pairc Ui Chaoimh on Saturday 10 July has been brought forward to a new throw in time of 3pm.

The match was originally scheduled to start at 7pm but after discussions between both counties and Croke Park, has been moved to a new time.





Best of luck to the juniors too
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on June 30, 2010, 07:05:50 PM
Best of luck to the juniors, would be great to win something at this level. If you go back in history you will find that Cavan won a junior AI the year before the won their 1st senior and many of those junior players went and played for the seniors including Killeshandras own Packie Devlin, after whom our pitch is named. History lesson over.

So is everyone going to Cork?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on June 30, 2010, 10:10:17 PM
Juniors lost by a point 0-13 to 2-6
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on June 30, 2010, 10:14:32 PM
No joy for the lads tonight. Lost out by 0-13 to 2-06. Louth probably shaved it overall but the chances were there to win the game. To be honest, in the past I have looked down upon this competition but it is nice to see a few counties taking it seriously and giving it a good rattle.

On tonight's game I was particularly disappointed with most of our so called senior panellists. Phillip Brady was excellent and probably kicked 2-04 but the likes of Eoin Smith, Mark Johnston, Ray Galligan and Declan McKiernan disappointed me big time. If they want to kick on and get a senior spot then they should realy be standing out at this level.

Really worried about midfield for the Cork game. Givney won't be fit. Which leaves Galligan and Brennan with no genuine cover. Wouldn't be surprised if they tried to coax Crowe in as a bit of cover. The other midfielder Taite, looked out of shape tonight.

Also someone mentioned previously about winnign two games at minor level - we actually did that in 08 beating Armagh and Antrim.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on June 30, 2010, 10:34:48 PM
Thanks for the update PIU. So Eoin Smith didn't look the part and Brady did? What about Costello, McPhillips and Eamon Reilly?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on June 30, 2010, 10:44:11 PM
I could have sworn I saw you there Lawrence  ;D

No Smith was very poor and was eventually taken off. Which got me thinking, with Hyland involved, where is Darren Smith of Lavey?

McPhillips held is own and looks a decent corner-back in my opinion but Costello went off injured I think and was replaced by Niall Smith and Eamon Reilly looked a bit off the pace to be honest.

On far too many occasions our forwards werent sharp enough to see a supporting run or a dissecting run off the shoulder and chose to solo it and turn in circles. But Phillip is like an old fashioned corner-forward, very direct. That is the first time I have seen him play in a while and I was impressed.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: whats my name on June 30, 2010, 10:49:55 PM
Philip Brady might have kicked 2-4 and played well but his selfishness near the end cost us big when he wouldn't pass to players in better positions instead he tried kicking two over his shoulder when he had men running off him. i do agree with you on the senior players bit they didn't stand out at all Eoin smith was bad at full back he was at six's and seven's at times in the first half.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on June 30, 2010, 10:54:30 PM
Quote from: whats my name on June 30, 2010, 10:49:55 PM
Philip Brady might have kicked 2-4 and played well but his selfishness near the end cost us big when he wouldn't pass to players in better positions instead he tried kicking two over his shoulder when he had men running off him. i do agree with you on the senior players bit they didn't stand out at all Eoin smith was bad at full back he was at six's and seven's at times in the first half.

Sure I just said that! He wasn't the only one that didnt lift the head though at crucial times. At least these players are being giving a chance to learn at a level higher than club.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dougal on June 30, 2010, 10:56:16 PM
mcphillips and brady were the only two that looked like you would consider for senior.brady was quite selfish,and that would be my main concern.agree with most of the rest of what you said PIU.all the players were solid enough but none really stood out.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on June 30, 2010, 11:00:17 PM
Quote from: Dougal on June 30, 2010, 10:56:16 PM
mcphillips and brady were the only two that looked like you would consider for senior.brady was quite selfish,and that would be my main concern.agree with most of the rest of what you said PIU.all the players were solid enough but none really stood out.

Truth be told and no harm to them, they were Junior players. Murphy looked decent in nets. Stood his ground better than Fintan did at the weekend to make a good save. Although I doubt TC is going to change keepers at this stage.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dougal on June 30, 2010, 11:10:10 PM
the cork game has been changed to 3.00pm.glad the GAA did this,otherwise i wouldnt be home til all hours.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on June 30, 2010, 11:12:41 PM
Quote from: Dougal on June 30, 2010, 11:10:10 PM
the cork game has been changed to 3.00pm.glad the GAA did this,otherwise i wouldnt be home til all hours.

Its a Saturday night, u wont be home untill all hours anyway I should hope  ;D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dougal on June 30, 2010, 11:33:13 PM
na,ill more than likely have the younger bro with me,and ill be driving,so i wont be able for any of that craic...till i get home. ;)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: whats my name on June 30, 2010, 11:48:54 PM
you must of posted your comment as i was writing mine PIU
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanforever on July 01, 2010, 12:02:07 AM


No Smith was very poor and was eventually taken off. Which got me thinking, with Hyland involved, where is Darren Smith of Lavey?


darren smith hasnt played football at all this year. injured i believe. would be a big help to senior set up
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on July 01, 2010, 09:41:18 PM
Im disappointed to hear that Eoin Smith wasnt great wednesday night,id have rated him alongside Darren Smith as the best full backs after Darren Rabbitte in the county.
He was playing great stuff with Killygarry last year,
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4sam on July 02, 2010, 11:08:34 AM
One result from last night lads.

Castlerahan 1-14 1-8 Killeshandra

This was a refixed gamed from a couple of weeks ago.

Good result for us considering the amount of the lads that we were missing, probably 8 that will start in the championship. Not a reflection on how good we were though as Killeshandra were very very poor, Myles or Dougal you may be able to tell me how many ye were missing?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on July 02, 2010, 12:33:02 PM
Quote from: cavan4sam on July 02, 2010, 11:08:34 AM
One result from last night lads.

Castlerahan 1-14 1-8 Killeshandra

This was a refixed gamed from a couple of weeks ago.

Good result for us considering the amount of the lads that we were missing, probably 8 that will start in the championship. Not a reflection on how good we were though as Killeshandra were very very poor, Myles or Dougal you may be able to tell me how many ye were missing?

Haven't heard anything to be honest but I think they were missing Colm Duffy, Paddy King and I'm sure a couple others are gone travelling.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dougal on July 02, 2010, 01:34:19 PM
poor stuff from the lads last night,the worst ive seen them play since 08 id say.missing paddy king,rory braiden,declan mckiernan,colm duffy and our manager.took us at least 15 minutes to score in the second half.scored 1-4 in the last 10 or 15 minutes.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on July 03, 2010, 01:49:27 PM
Is that Drung & the 'Bridge down in Division 2? Two county midfielders going down to join Givney?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on July 04, 2010, 03:42:09 PM
Quote from: Lawrence of Knockbride on July 03, 2010, 01:49:27 PM
Is that Drung & the 'Bridge down in Division 2? Two county midfielders going down to join Givney?

No relegation out of Division 2 or Intermediate Championship this year.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on July 04, 2010, 04:08:39 PM
Quote from: boojangles on July 04, 2010, 03:42:09 PM
Quote from: Lawrence of Knockbride on July 03, 2010, 01:49:27 PM
Is that Drung & the 'Bridge down in Division 2? Two county midfielders going down to join Givney?

No relegation out of Division 2 or Intermediate Championship this year.

I knew there is none for the Champo - didn't realise there wasn't any for the league too...

Good point for ye up in Milltown Boojangles
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on July 04, 2010, 04:24:51 PM
Quote from: Celt_Man on July 04, 2010, 04:08:39 PM
Quote from: boojangles on July 04, 2010, 03:42:09 PM
Quote from: Lawrence of Knockbride on July 03, 2010, 01:49:27 PM
Is that Drung & the 'Bridge down in Division 2? Two county midfielders going down to join Givney?

No relegation out of Division 2 or Intermediate Championship this year.

I knew there is none for the Champo - didn't realise there wasn't any for the league too...

Good point for ye up in Milltown Boojangles

No its the same for League also.
Game of 2 halves with the wind being the decisive factor as usual in Milltown. We scored 1 point on 2nd half. Drumlane were missing alot. They will be hard stopped come championship with Mc Connell, Dane O Dowd etc back for them.
Good win for you's CeltMan, who have yas 1st round?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on July 04, 2010, 04:38:08 PM
Quote from: boojangles on July 04, 2010, 04:24:51 PM
Quote from: Celt_Man on July 04, 2010, 04:08:39 PM
Quote from: boojangles on July 04, 2010, 03:42:09 PM
Quote from: Lawrence of Knockbride on July 03, 2010, 01:49:27 PM
Is that Drung & the 'Bridge down in Division 2? Two county midfielders going down to join Givney?

No relegation out of Division 2 or Intermediate Championship this year.

I knew there is none for the Champo - didn't realise there wasn't any for the league too...

Good point for ye up in Milltown Boojangles

No its the same for League also.
Game of 2 halves with the wind being the decisive factor as usual in Milltown. We scored 1 point on 2nd half. Drumlane were missing alot. They will be hard stopped come championship with Mc Connell, Dane O Dowd etc back for them.
Good win for you's CeltMan, who have yas 1st round?

Aye that pitch is fierce open and exposed to the wind.

Ahh we were chronic in the first half, six points to no score down after 15 minutes and we had the wind!  Fought back well and have a good few boys to come back in too I suppose.

We've Killinkere in the last league game and in the first round of the champo too.  What about yourselves.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on July 04, 2010, 08:35:54 PM
Minors bet by 2 points. Played most of 2nd half a man down. Don't any other details.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on July 04, 2010, 10:34:05 PM
Quote from: Celt_Man on July 04, 2010, 04:38:08 PM
Quote from: boojangles on July 04, 2010, 04:24:51 PM
Quote from: Celt_Man on July 04, 2010, 04:08:39 PM
Quote from: boojangles on July 04, 2010, 03:42:09 PM
Quote from: Lawrence of Knockbride on July 03, 2010, 01:49:27 PM
Is that Drung & the 'Bridge down in Division 2? Two county midfielders going down to join Givney?

No relegation out of Division 2 or Intermediate Championship this year.

I knew there is none for the Champo - didn't realise there wasn't any for the league too...

Good point for ye up in Milltown Boojangles

No its the same for League also.
Game of 2 halves with the wind being the decisive factor as usual in Milltown. We scored 1 point on 2nd half. Drumlane were missing alot. They will be hard stopped come championship with Mc Connell, Dane O Dowd etc back for them.
Good win for you's CeltMan, who have yas 1st round?

Aye that pitch is fierce open and exposed to the wind.

Ahh we were chronic in the first half, six points to no score down after 15 minutes and we had the wind!  Fought back well and have a good few boys to come back in too I suppose.

We've Killinkere in the last league game and in the first round of the champo too.  What about yourselves.

Kill in the 1st round in 3 weeks. They have fairly picked themselves up,beating Drung handy Friday evening. I hear McKenna is playing very well.
Killinkere will be very hard bet,always a tough championship team.

Same old, same old with our Minors. Should have went in 2 or 3 points up at HT but took the wrong option in the forward line twice and went in level. Dewart was on a yellow and not playing well,probably should have been replaced, then went in late after the ball when Cavan were 2 points up in 2nd half,14 men,game over. How our Centre back and Captain ??? was not taken off I'l never know.  In saying that too many lads took the wrong option when under pressure and by my count we won ONE break in the 2nd half which will never win you a game. We still had the winning of the game but sure don't we always.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on July 04, 2010, 10:40:17 PM
Who was our number 6 Boojangles. I don't like being too harsh on young fellas but he was very poor especially tackling his man into the back on the sideline in the second half. I agree with what you say but in fairness Armagh kicked a hell of a lot of wides in the first half and as you say were strong at midfield. With the man less we just didn't look like penetrating and the goal was a killer. Good to see Johnston isn't as injured as Carr is letting on as he was doing the water. But if he's at all injured I don't understand him being out on the pitch at all.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on July 04, 2010, 11:00:35 PM
Quote from: Lawrence of Knockbride on July 04, 2010, 10:40:17 PM
Who was our number 6 Boojangles. I don't like being too harsh on young fellas but he was very poor especially tackling his man into the back on the sideline in the second half. I agree with what you say but in fairness Armagh kicked a hell of a lot of wides in the first half and as you say were strong at midfield. With the man less we just didn't look like penetrating and the goal was a killer. Good to see Johnston isn't as injured as Carr is letting on as he was doing the water. But if he's at all injured I don't understand him being out on the pitch at all.

Aaron Smith of Lavey. Maybe he had a bad day but he looked lost out there. We just won no breaks at all,which was very disappointing. We definitely had the beating of them in the 1st half but the sending off changed all that.
Johnston has been helping out with the Minors the last few months.He was only walking the line in fairness, if he's injured its doubtful standing along the line is gonna do much more damage.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on July 05, 2010, 08:44:10 AM
Fair enough but there was a rumour (on Hoganstand) that he couldn't even stand on it. So I was relieved to see him jog on it at the start of the game. What I meant was if it was a race against time for him to be fit for Saturday then he'd be better off not standing on it for an hour. Hopefully there's no real problem.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: beer baron on July 05, 2010, 10:42:42 AM
Have to agree with the lads about the young lad centre back not being great yesterday,along with that i thought the management have a lot to answer for.2nd half when behind we left Jack brady-outstanding player on his own in the forward line for most of  the game with no support.and kept kicking aimless balls in at him.Midfield we barely won a ball,i lost count of the amount of times both lads went up for the ball rather than 1 up one down,barely won a break all game.I liked the full back,read the game very well i thought and comfortable on the ball.
Ah well now to look forward to the long trip to Cork,think i'm going to go stay in Dublin friday,would i be better off getting the bus or the train from Dublin to Cork Saturday?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on July 05, 2010, 10:54:20 AM
Quote from: beer baron on July 05, 2010, 10:42:42 AM
Have to agree with the lads about the young lad centre back not being great yesterday,along with that i thought the management have a lot to answer for.2nd half when behind we left Jack brady-outstanding player on his own in the forward line for most of  the game with no support.and kept kicking aimless balls in at him.Midfield we barely won a ball,i lost count of the amount of times both lads went up for the ball rather than 1 up one down,barely won a break all game.I liked the full back,read the game very well i thought and comfortable on the ball.
Ah well now to look forward to the long trip to Cork,think i'm going to go stay in Dublin friday,would i be better off getting the bus or the train from Dublin to Cork Saturday?
Ryanair might be your best option.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Terry Coyle on July 05, 2010, 11:27:30 AM
Quote from: Lawrence of Knockbride on July 05, 2010, 10:54:20 AM
Quote from: beer baron on July 05, 2010, 10:42:42 AM
Have to agree with the lads about the young lad centre back not being great yesterday,along with that i thought the management have a lot to answer for.2nd half when behind we left Jack brady-outstanding player on his own in the forward line for most of  the game with no support.and kept kicking aimless balls in at him.Midfield we barely won a ball,i lost count of the amount of times both lads went up for the ball rather than 1 up one down,barely won a break all game.I liked the full back,read the game very well i thought and comfortable on the ball.
Ah well now to look forward to the long trip to Cork,think i'm going to go stay in Dublin friday,would i be better off getting the bus or the train from Dublin to Cork Saturday?
Ryanair might be your best option.

I take it you don't have a car.. motorway whole way from Kells to Cork now.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on July 05, 2010, 12:29:02 PM
Quote from: beer baron on July 05, 2010, 10:42:42 AM
Have to agree with the lads about the young lad centre back not being great yesterday,along with that i thought the management have a lot to answer for.2nd half when behind we left Jack brady-outstanding player on his own in the forward line for most of  the game with no support.and kept kicking aimless balls in at him.Midfield we barely won a ball,i lost count of the amount of times both lads went up for the ball rather than 1 up one down,barely won a break all game.I liked the full back,read the game very well i thought and comfortable on the ball.
Ah well now to look forward to the long trip to Cork,think i'm going to go stay in Dublin friday,would i be better off getting the bus or the train from Dublin to Cork Saturday?

Train I would say. Bus probably goes through all the towns on the way.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: full moon on July 05, 2010, 01:14:17 PM
Didn't understand why young O'Connor was taken off in the minors. He had the beating of their defense all day long. After that and the sending off, our forward line went to pieces.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tierworker blue on July 05, 2010, 02:55:51 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on July 05, 2010, 12:29:02 PM
Quote from: beer baron on July 05, 2010, 10:42:42 AM
Have to agree with the lads about the young lad centre back not being great yesterday,along with that i thought the management have a lot to answer for.2nd half when behind we left Jack brady-outstanding player on his own in the forward line for most of  the game with no support.and kept kicking aimless balls in at him.Midfield we barely won a ball,i lost count of the amount of times both lads went up for the ball rather than 1 up one down,barely won a break all game.I liked the full back,read the game very well i thought and comfortable on the ball.
Ah well now to look forward to the long trip to Cork,think i'm going to go stay in Dublin friday,would i be better off getting the bus or the train from Dublin to Cork Saturday?

Train I would say. Bus probably goes through all the towns on the way.

The train seems pretty painless. Service every hour and there's an internet booking deal on at the moment...€10 down (I think it may be €20 back)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on July 05, 2010, 03:05:03 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on July 05, 2010, 12:29:02 PM
Quote from: beer baron on July 05, 2010, 10:42:42 AM
Have to agree with the lads about the young lad centre back not being great yesterday,along with that i thought the management have a lot to answer for.2nd half when behind we left Jack brady-outstanding player on his own in the forward line for most of  the game with no support.and kept kicking aimless balls in at him.Midfield we barely won a ball,i lost count of the amount of times both lads went up for the ball rather than 1 up one down,barely won a break all game.I liked the full back,read the game very well i thought and comfortable on the ball.
Ah well now to look forward to the long trip to Cork,think i'm going to go stay in Dublin friday,would i be better off getting the bus or the train from Dublin to Cork Saturday?

Train I would say. Bus probably goes through all the towns on the way.
Going by Mullingar rather than Kells saves you 4.50 e/w on tolls plus it's shorter.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on July 05, 2010, 03:18:30 PM
Quote from: Lawrence of Knockbride on July 05, 2010, 03:05:03 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on July 05, 2010, 12:29:02 PM
Quote from: beer baron on July 05, 2010, 10:42:42 AM
Have to agree with the lads about the young lad centre back not being great yesterday,along with that i thought the management have a lot to answer for.2nd half when behind we left Jack brady-outstanding player on his own in the forward line for most of  the game with no support.and kept kicking aimless balls in at him.Midfield we barely won a ball,i lost count of the amount of times both lads went up for the ball rather than 1 up one down,barely won a break all game.I liked the full back,read the game very well i thought and comfortable on the ball.
Ah well now to look forward to the long trip to Cork,think i'm going to go stay in Dublin friday,would i be better off getting the bus or the train from Dublin to Cork Saturday?

Train I would say. Bus probably goes through all the towns on the way.
Going by Mullingar rather than Kells saves you 4.50 e/w on tolls plus it's shorter.

Toll on New road - €1.30 x 2 stations e/w
Toll on Mullingar - €2.90 x 1  e/w

Only saving is you avoid M50 Toll going by Mullingar.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Terry Coyle on July 05, 2010, 06:26:35 PM
Quote from: Lawrence of Knockbride on July 05, 2010, 03:05:03 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on July 05, 2010, 12:29:02 PM
Quote from: beer baron on July 05, 2010, 10:42:42 AM
Have to agree with the lads about the young lad centre back not being great yesterday,along with that i thought the management have a lot to answer for.2nd half when behind we left Jack brady-outstanding player on his own in the forward line for most of  the game with no support.and kept kicking aimless balls in at him.Midfield we barely won a ball,i lost count of the amount of times both lads went up for the ball rather than 1 up one down,barely won a break all game.I liked the full back,read the game very well i thought and comfortable on the ball.
Ah well now to look forward to the long trip to Cork,think i'm going to go stay in Dublin friday,would i be better off getting the bus or the train from Dublin to Cork Saturday?


Train I would say. Bus probably goes through all the towns on the way.
Going by Mullingar rather than Kells saves you 4.50 e/w on tolls plus it's shorter.

Thats the Cavan man response alright - Shorter but not necessarily quicker with some of the towns you have to go through.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on July 05, 2010, 06:28:14 PM
I reckon it would be quicker, shorter and cheaper. Myles, the toll you speak of is on the M4. I meant going through Mullingar and on to Tullamore. Terry Coyle, the route planner lists this route as being about 20 minutes shorter. I'm basing this on going from Cavan town of course.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Terry Coyle on July 05, 2010, 06:33:50 PM
Quote from: Lawrence of Knockbride on July 05, 2010, 06:28:14 PM
I reckon it would be quicker, shorter and cheaper. Myles, the toll you speak of is on the M4. I meant going through Mullingar and on to Tullamore. Terry Coyle, the route planner lists this route as being about 20 minutes shorter. I'm basing this on going from Cavan town of course.

It bases that on the distance obviously but doesnt take into account going through the various small towns etc on the way. Cruise control on, let it rip, sure the dog will drive down!  ;D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on July 05, 2010, 08:13:50 PM
Quote from: Lawrence of Knockbride on July 05, 2010, 06:28:14 PM
I reckon it would be quicker, shorter and cheaper. Myles, the toll you speak of is on the M4. I meant going through Mullingar and on to Tullamore. Terry Coyle, the route planner lists this route as being about 20 minutes shorter. I'm basing this on going from Cavan town of course.

You'd be mad in the head going that way. Cavan Town to M50 is now just over 1 hour. M50 to Jack Lynch tunnel is 2 hours.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on July 05, 2010, 09:29:52 PM
How about we all leave at the sametime and we will have a race? First one there get a free pint of each man ;D I'll be putting my 1.4l engine to the limit if ya's agree to it!

Why does Seanie always have an injury before every game? Is he that injury prone or does he jsut like the media attention? He can kick a point though  ;D

With regards to the minors yesterday I didn't make it down because of work. A always felt we were gonna struggle at midfield once we came up against a good team and I think that is what happened from what I hear. Also was informed there was one or two very average players involved but I don't like giving out about or praising minors to be honest. They are best left to get on with it. I presume that is the end of Mickey Graham's minor tenure. 3 wins from 6 games in 3 years of championship football. It's not bad but I am sure he will be disappointed not to have made a final as are we all considering we made it to two semi-finals in three years.

Any early guesses who will want to take over there?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on July 05, 2010, 09:34:55 PM
Team to start in my humble opinion...

                Fintan
Hannon       Corr           Brides
            Cahill     Flanagan
Gunner       McGuigan       McKeever
      Brennan   Shierdan   Galligan
                   Nesty
  Johnston               Mackey   

Obviously it is all hands to the defence. Pack the midfield and try and hold onto the ball until Nesty can find Johnston and Mackey in space. Then we need Gunner and Mckeever getting forward to support. Our FB line will need loads of protection from the danger men in the Cork FF line hence two sweepers. Cavan are going to have to make a dog fight out of this the same way as Sligo did to Kerry last year. I am hopeful the lads can build on the performance last week and put up a decent show here.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on July 05, 2010, 09:49:47 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on July 05, 2010, 09:34:55 PM
Team to start in my humble opinion...

                Fintan
Hannon       Corr           Brides
            Cahill     Flanagan
Gunner       McGuigan       McKeever
      Brennan   Shierdan   Galligan
                   Nesty
  Johnston               Mackey   

Obviously it is all hands to the defence. Pack the midfield and try and hold onto the ball until Nesty can find Johnston and Mackey in space. Then we need Gunner and Mckeever getting forward to support. Our FB line will need loads of protection from the danger men in the Cork FF line hence two sweepers. Cavan are going to have to make a dog fight out of this the same way as Sligo did to Kerry last year. I am hopeful the lads can build on the performance last week and put up a decent show here.

Myles you are not genuinely suggesting that we start Corr again are you?

Obviously we are going to have to mind the house, but at the same time if we try to sit back and shut up shop and play like someone like Fermanagh we will lose by ten points anyway because Cork will pick us off and if we play like that we will be lucky to score 0-8 points. We dont have the players to play that kind of way and Neither do I think Carr will inspire them to become that kind of player over night nor do I think training would have been geared to playing like that. It is not TC's way and it certainly isn't Cavan's way.

Plus if we drop off like that, Cork will sit one or two infront of Johnston and Mackey and we will score F all.  Jelly and Mackey need good diagonal ball into them to latch onto and I don't for one second think Cork are going to let us do that. For that reason we might need Brennan's frame closer to goal but by Jaysus we are short midfield.

I think we should go with one sweeper and then ask our lads to each get their man and work their socks off to win their own battle. Playing two sweepers tells your players you don't trust them to stay with their men and measure up to them. The workrate that we had against Wicklow will be the minimum we require to keep it respectable and whether the desire will be there I am not sure. I hope I am wrong but I have a horrible feeling in my gut that Wicklow performance was a flash in the pan...

Also Myles you have left McCutcheon out ?!?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on July 05, 2010, 10:00:07 PM
Maybe Myles is trying to guess TC's team rather than his own?? Corr at FB would be madness but I wouldn't be surprised if he was there. And I assume the  ommission of McCutcheon is mistake. I also wouldn't be happy with the Gunner starting considering his input to the panel.
As for the route to Cork, I don't have a clue but I'd have thought the route planner would've taken most things into consideration and wouldn't exaggerate one route and not the other. Anyway PIU I'll be on for a pint. I'll be the boy in the blue jersey.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on July 05, 2010, 10:03:02 PM
Jaysus, I did leave McCutcheon out. There is a hard call to make in there, it could mean McGuigan being dropped.

Problem with Corr is that TC has not tried anyone else out at FB - is it wise to start trying a new FB now?

I suppose Hannon or Shieridan could go in there but you know we need to try and develop a FB and punishing Corr for a bad game is not the answer either.

Cork were run very very close by Limerick playing a system like I outlined, if we frustrate them and try and hit them with a running game on the break I think is our best chance. Leave our defence exposed and we'll get an awful hammering.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dougal on July 05, 2010, 10:26:07 PM
corrs had more than one bad game this year,id still prefare sheridan than him.that would also mean (for myles' team) you could put sheridan full back and bring in mccutcheon.i dont think we'd be fit to play well using that kind of a system,it takes more than 2 weeks to implement a system like that.

will mackey and johnston gel in the full forward line??they didnt work well together against fermanagh.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: sams the aim on July 05, 2010, 10:32:14 PM
put it up maybe get ur facts rite first tommy carr said sumit about his ankle not himself. more cavan fans abuse, and to the minors picking out players is terrible, armagh no 11 taken off by d way,all the cavan team gave it their all
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on July 05, 2010, 10:33:47 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on July 05, 2010, 10:03:02 PM
Jaysus, I did leave McCutcheon out. There is a hard call to make in there, it could mean McGuigan being dropped.

Problem with Corr is that TC has not tried anyone else out at FB - is it wise to start trying a new FB now?

I suppose Hannon or Shieridan could go in there but you know we need to try and develop a FB and punishing Corr for a bad game is not the answer either.

Cork were run very very close by Limerick playing a system like I outlined, if we frustrate them and try and hit them with a running game on the break I think is our best chance. Leave our defence exposed and we'll get an awful hammering.

He wasn't great against Fermanagh either. There really is feck all other options I suppose but I would be quite confident with Hannon or Sheridan there. Cork don't play with a big target man do they? And no harm to him Myles I know we all want to develop a new Full-Back but judging from what I have seen he is not our long-term solutuon although I understand Full-back is a spot you get better at the more you play there.

Myles, I fully acknowlege it is going to take a huge defensive effort but I think if we have too many lads back it lets lads hide and not take full responsibility. With 6 backs + the sweeper every man has his responsiblitily and when that men gets away from him it is up to the sweeper or someone else to make up the ground and help out. I just dont believe that more defenders necessarily means a better defence if you get me?

Work-rate is going to be far more important. You can have all the lads back in the world but if there not working hard and just sitting in space- then they may aswell sit down on the field and say I'll look after this area. Plus, I would rather be pressuring Cork's midfield area to prevent the delivery of quality ball. To do that we need lads in and arond the Cork Half-backl line, working there asses off there rather than crowding space in my opinion. If we try to crowd the defence, Cork will play the running game and pull us apart i think.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on July 05, 2010, 10:39:36 PM
Quote from: sams the aim on July 05, 2010, 10:32:14 PM
put it up maybe get ur facts rite first tommy carr said sumit about his ankle not himself. more cavan fans abuse, and to the minors picking out players is terrible, armagh no 11 taken off by d way,all the cavan team gave it their all

Firstly Sam's the aim maybe learn some punctuation.

Secondly, ponder on this question for a second my good friend. Who do you think told Tommy he had a sore ankle?

And, while I am at it, maybe you should get your facts right. I didn't give Seanie any abuse, I asked a question. I have nothing but respect for him as a player and as an athlete - I just noticed he always seems to carry some knock before a big-game. That is a fact.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: sams the aim on July 05, 2010, 11:01:24 PM
God knows who told tommy he did, are u a 100% sure that thats the case?Came back from a serious serious injury too soon i might add just to play for his county and all you see is the bad points. there is a fact
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: full moon on July 06, 2010, 12:44:15 PM
I think you hit a nerve with another in the closet Gaels man, put it up. Wouldn't mind, I've rarely seen a player get full on criticism never mind abuse fron anyone here. Bar me, I like to stick the knife in.  So that point is null and void.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Terry Coyle on July 06, 2010, 01:40:21 PM
Quote from: put-it-up on July 05, 2010, 10:39:36 PM
Quote from: sams the aim on July 05, 2010, 10:32:14 PM
put it up maybe get ur facts rite first tommy carr said sumit about his ankle not himself. more cavan fans abuse, and to the minors picking out players is terrible, armagh no 11 taken off by d way,all the cavan team gave it their all

Firstly Sam's the aim maybe learn some punctuation.

Secondly, ponder on this question for a second my good friend. Who do you think told Tommy he had a sore ankle?

And, while I am at it, maybe you should get your facts right. I didn't give Seanie any abuse, I asked a question. I have nothing but respect for him as a player and as an athlete - I just noticed he always seems to carry some knock before a big-game. That is a fact.

Goes to show what a player he is when he has a knock and can still do what he did against Wicklow.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Terry Coyle on July 06, 2010, 03:01:42 PM
Quote from: full moon on July 06, 2010, 12:44:15 PM
I think you hit a nerve with another in the closet Gaels man, put it up. Wouldn't mind, I've rarely seen a player get full on criticism never mind abuse fron anyone here. Bar me, I like to stick the knife in.  So that point is null and void.

Who is the other in closet Gaels man then? Must meet him for a pint!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Mr. Pain on July 06, 2010, 04:11:31 PM
Coming soon......
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on July 06, 2010, 04:15:11 PM
.........the biggest blockbuster of the summer. I can sense some boys being put in their boxes soon.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on July 06, 2010, 05:34:29 PM
Let the games begin!!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Breffni_Yank on July 06, 2010, 07:26:25 PM
Quote from: Mr. Pain on July 06, 2010, 04:11:31 PM
Coming soon......

Greetings from the U.S of A.

A friend and a fellow board member recently told me this would be the best site to keep up to date with the thrills and spills of Cavan Football while I make my way around the US.  How are we set for the weekend anyway? My good friend Paddy Power has us at 8/1  ::)

With regards to the above comment from Mr. Pain, were you having a Tom Hank (w*nk) at the time of writing or something?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on July 06, 2010, 07:28:30 PM
Quote from: full moon on July 06, 2010, 12:44:15 PM
I think you hit a nerve with another in the closet Gaels man, put it up. Wouldn't mind, I've rarely seen a player get full on criticism never mind abuse fron anyone here. Bar me, I like to stick the knife in.  So that point is null and void.
For a minute I thought it was Seanie himself. But then I thought to myself, after 6 odd years in DCU, I doubt his writing skills were that bad  ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on July 06, 2010, 07:30:52 PM
Quote from: Breffni_Yank on July 06, 2010, 07:26:25 PM
Quote from: Mr. Pain on July 06, 2010, 04:11:31 PM
Coming soon......

Greetings from the U.S of A.

A friend and a fellow board member recently told me this would be the best site to keep up to date with the thrills and spills of Cavan Football while I make my way around the US.  How are we set for the weekend anyway? My good friend Paddy Power has us at 8/1  ::)

With regards to the above comment from Mr. Pain, were you having a Tom Hank (w*nk) at the time of writing or something?
Such a first post  ;D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on July 06, 2010, 09:56:48 PM
I think he did accountancy first and is now doing Physiotherapy or PE now.

The jobs market wouldn't be so good and it wouldn't be the first time that someone has stayed in education for as long as possible.

But hopefully reports of his injury are over pessimistic.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on July 06, 2010, 10:04:14 PM
He is dead right staying in College - I wouldnt begrudge him that one bit. He is doing PE as far as I know. I think people think I'm anti-Johnston. I am far from it, the chap has so much talent and I know he works hard to constantly try to improve. How many players in the country coulda done what we did against Wicklow?I would say you could count them on one hand.

The more I think about Sunday though the more worried I get...

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dougal on July 06, 2010, 10:41:10 PM
Quote from: put-it-up on July 06, 2010, 10:04:14 PM
He is dead right staying in College - I wouldnt begrudge him that one bit. He is doing PE as far as I know. I think people think I'm anti-Johnston. I am far from it, the chap has so much talent and I know he works hard to constantly try to improve. How many players in the country coulda done what we did against Wicklow?I would say you could count them on one hand.

The more I think about Sunday though the more worried I get...

im more worried about saturday to be honest with you.  ;D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on July 06, 2010, 10:53:29 PM
Quote from: put-it-up on July 06, 2010, 10:04:14 PM
He is dead right staying in College - I wouldnt begrudge him that one bit. He is doing PE as far as I know. I think people think I'm anti-Johnston. I am far from it, the chap has so much talent and I know he works hard to constantly try to improve. How many players in the country coulda done what we did against Wicklow?I would say you could count them on one hand.

The more I think about Sunday though the more worried I get...
Why Sunday? Are you going to Oxegen and are worried about the rain?  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on July 06, 2010, 11:13:01 PM
Oops  ;D It's just the early start for mass, it has me shaking in my boots ;D

I actually am worried about Sunday too - half our club team will be joining the festivities ;D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on July 07, 2010, 02:09:51 PM
From Hoganstand.

As I said before who wouldn't be up for a tilt at last years AI finalists.

Players 'mad for the challenge', says Carr

Cavan manager Tommy Carr
07 July 2010


Cavan manager Tommy Carr says his players are keen to shape up to Cork this Saturday as they look to pull off what would be the shock of this year's All-Ireland SFC at Pairc Ui Chaoimh.

After a epic comeback against Wicklow last month, Carr's team were pitted against the Rebels in the second round of the qualifiers and will look to overcome huge odds of 8/1 when they travel south this weekend.

"We'll give it our best shot and that's basically it," Carr told the Irish News. "You never know, if we can go and do something like Sligo did or Limerick did, we just don't know after that.

"We're very positive going into the game. I have to say the fellas are very good. The attitude is great.

"They're mad for the challenge and to shape up to Cork to see where they are and what it's like to play one of the best teams in the country, if not the best team in the country."

Injuries and suspensions have depleted Carr's squad for the trip to Leeside, but the Tipperary native knows that they have no other choice but to get on with the task at hand.

"Unfortunately we'll be down David Givney still which is very unfortunate as he was shaping up well," he said.

"Mark McKeever is still not training and obviously we'll be without Lorcan Mulvey at midfield.

"Unfortunately, Ray Cullivan cried off the panel. So we'd like to have a fuller hand to work with than we have, but we don't."

There is some good news for the Breffni men, as ace forward Sean Johnston, who inspired the win against Wicklow, is believed to be fit again and Paul Brady is also available after missing the previous clash due to handball commitments in the US.

"Seanie is good. He was carrying an ankle injury there for a while, but hopefully he'll recovery in time," said the Cavan boss.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on July 07, 2010, 07:41:52 PM
Yeah but TC always says we are mad for it anyway.

Anyway the team wont be too far away from this I am told:

                        Fintan
Hannon       Sheridan   Brides
Cahill         McCutcheon   Clarke/Brady
       Gallo McGuigan
Flanagan  Nesty    McKeever
Jelly      Brennan Mackey/Larry ;D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Terry Coyle on July 08, 2010, 11:09:03 AM
Quote from: put-it-up on July 07, 2010, 07:41:52 PM
Yeah but TC always says we are mad for it anyway.

Anyway the team wont be too far away from this I am told:

                        Fintan
Hannon       Sheridan   Brides
Cahill         McCutcheon   Clarke/Brady
       Gallo McGuigan
Flanagan  Nesty    McKeever
Jelly      Brennan Mackey/Larry ;D

Good team but I heard Charlie Clarke is coming back to help out with the midfield problem! He will be laying it on a plate for Larry and co.!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on July 08, 2010, 11:14:29 AM
Any truth that Crowe is now on the senior panel?
Where's Boojangles? He usually has the heads up for us such matters. Or Mr. Pain?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on July 08, 2010, 11:52:16 AM
Quote from: Lawrence of Knockbride on July 08, 2010, 11:14:29 AM
Any truth that Crowe is now on the senior panel?
Where's Boojangles? He usually has the heads up for us such matters. Or Mr. Pain?

I'm here man.No,no truth.
I think PIU could be close enough to the team there with maybe a midfielder and one defender changed. I think they are waiting on a few lads with injuries. Hopefully good news with at least one of them.
Best of Luck to all involved, hope they give it a good rattle and show the same spirit as the 2nd half against Wicklow.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on July 08, 2010, 12:19:01 PM
Quote from: boojangles on July 08, 2010, 11:52:16 AM
Quote from: Lawrence of Knockbride on July 08, 2010, 11:14:29 AM
Any truth that Crowe is now on the senior panel?
Where's Boojangles? He usually has the heads up for us such matters. Or Mr. Pain?

I'm here man.No,no truth.
I think PIU could be close enough to the team there with maybe a midfielder and one defender changed. I think they are waiting on a few lads with injuries. Hopefully good news with at least one of them.
Best of Luck to all involved, hope they give it a good rattle and show the same spirit as the 2nd half against Wicklow.
I've been told by a Lacken man that he is back but I wouldn't know the source that well.
Yeah I'd be thinking that Walsh will start if fit unless Givney makes a miraculous recovery.
So you're saying there's a chance Larry will start? :o
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on July 08, 2010, 02:08:04 PM
Quote from: Lawrence of Knockbride on July 08, 2010, 12:19:01 PM
Quote from: boojangles on July 08, 2010, 11:52:16 AM
Quote from: Lawrence of Knockbride on July 08, 2010, 11:14:29 AM
Any truth that Crowe is now on the senior panel?
Where's Boojangles? He usually has the heads up for us such matters. Or Mr. Pain?

I'm here man.No,no truth.
I think PIU could be close enough to the team there with maybe a midfielder and one defender changed. I think they are waiting on a few lads with injuries. Hopefully good news with at least one of them.
Best of Luck to all involved, hope they give it a good rattle and show the same spirit as the 2nd half against Wicklow.
I've been told by a Lacken man that he is back but I wouldn't know the source that well.
Yeah I'd be thinking that Walsh will start if fit unless Givney makes a miraculous recovery.
So you're saying there's a chance Larry will start? :o

Told by a Lacken man Lawrence? I wasn't aware you were fluent in Lackenese! Jaaaaaaayyyysssus high

If Mackey plays the way he has done the last two days I would rather Larry  ;D Mackey is going to have to stop trying to shoot with his left foot - simple as.

Crowe is not on the panel and Walsh is on the subs as far as i no. Givney might be on the bench but i wouldnt expect him to start.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on July 08, 2010, 02:58:40 PM
Quote from: put-it-up on July 08, 2010, 02:08:04 PM
Quote from: Lawrence of Knockbride on July 08, 2010, 12:19:01 PM
Quote from: boojangles on July 08, 2010, 11:52:16 AM
Quote from: Lawrence of Knockbride on July 08, 2010, 11:14:29 AM
Any truth that Crowe is now on the senior panel?
Where's Boojangles? He usually has the heads up for us such matters. Or Mr. Pain?

I'm here man.No,no truth.
I think PIU could be close enough to the team there with maybe a midfielder and one defender changed. I think they are waiting on a few lads with injuries. Hopefully good news with at least one of them.
Best of Luck to all involved, hope they give it a good rattle and show the same spirit as the 2nd half against Wicklow.
I've been told by a Lacken man that he is back but I wouldn't know the source that well.
Yeah I'd be thinking that Walsh will start if fit unless Givney makes a miraculous recovery.
So you're saying there's a chance Larry will start? :o

Told by a Lacken man Lawrence? I wasn't aware you were fluent in Lackenese! Jaaaaaaayyyysssus high

If Mackey plays the way he has done the last two days I would rather Larry  ;D Mackey is going to have to stop trying to shoot with his left foot - simple as.

Crowe is not on the panel and Walsh is on the subs as far as i no. Givney might be on the bench but i wouldnt expect him to start.
Maybe that's why I have my information wrong. :)
I presume Mulvey's appeal against his red card won't go through in time???????? :D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Breffni_Yank on July 08, 2010, 07:40:42 PM
Apoligies regarding my somewhat abrupt entrance the other night/morning  - I was just winding down the Independence Day celebrations and the beers and the heat obv effected my sense of humour!

Have we any hope at the weekend lad? Bookies dont seem to think so but might but a few pound on us +7.5 or so.  Will be relying on this place for a decent report of the game unless CNN decide to show highlights of it  ;D And I presume put-it-up was joking about Larry? If not I would swim home to see him in blue one more time. Jink and goodbye.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: beer baron on July 08, 2010, 11:10:26 PM
Johnston interview on some radiostaion if anyones interested http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9hoKrto_rRk
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BigMac on July 09, 2010, 09:09:47 AM
That was a good interview by Johnston. Hes getting very professional and almost politician like in his answers, not giving too much away and building up the opposition. Really hope hes fit to start tomorrow, and is in the right humour.
On another note, i see the county board have fixed games for sunday, doesnt give players much chance of going to support their county team. They couldnt expect people to travel down and back on the same day.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: robertemmet on July 09, 2010, 01:17:03 PM
going to cavan town at the weekend? What good pubs are there for watching the World cup/Munster final on Sunday
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tierworker blue on July 09, 2010, 01:43:32 PM
Many of y'all travellin' south tomorrow?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dougal on July 09, 2010, 01:47:02 PM
Quote from: tierworker blue on July 09, 2010, 01:43:32 PM
Many of y'all travellin' south tomorrow?

Another Bboro man?the place is full of yis  :D

i'll be headin down anyway,and home sometime tomorrow night.anyone hear the team yet??
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on July 09, 2010, 01:55:43 PM
The team is

Fintan
Hannon
Sheridan
Brides
Cahill
McCutcheon
Clarke
Mcguigan
Galligan
McKeever
Nesty
Flanagan
Mackey
Brennan
Jelly

I cant make it down - stuck working in Dublin. I'll rely on you boys for some analysis because I am never putting myself through Northern Sound again..
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on July 09, 2010, 02:10:28 PM
Good man PIU. I presume Brennan will come out the middle. Are Walsh and/or Givney among the subs do you know?
Not surprising but looks very weak all over the place. What's the story with the Gunner?
Quote from: robertemmet on July 09, 2010, 01:17:03 PM
going to cavan town at the weekend? What good pubs are there for watching the World cup/Munster final on Sunday
Not the best man to to tell you Robert but I think An Sibn and Blessings (don't think the name's over the door anymore) would have at least a few screens. Possibly An Crúiscin Lán too.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tierworker blue on July 09, 2010, 02:21:44 PM
Quote from: Dougal on July 09, 2010, 01:47:02 PM
Quote from: tierworker blue on July 09, 2010, 01:43:32 PM
Many of y'all travellin' south tomorrow?

Another Bboro man?the place is full of yis  :D


Yeah...we're everywhere!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on July 09, 2010, 04:36:28 PM
Quote from: robertemmet on July 09, 2010, 01:17:03 PM
going to cavan town at the weekend? What good pubs are there for watching the World cup/Munster final on Sunday

The Imperial in the middle of the town.  Owned by former Cavan Manager Donal Keogan.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on July 09, 2010, 06:15:18 PM
Quote from: Denn Forever on July 09, 2010, 04:36:28 PM
Quote from: robertemmet on July 09, 2010, 01:17:03 PM
going to cavan town at the weekend? What good pubs are there for watching the World cup/Munster final on Sunday

The Imperial in the middle of the town.  Owned by former Cavan Manager Donal Keogan.
Hi there Donal,how are things?  ;D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on July 09, 2010, 07:33:17 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on July 09, 2010, 06:15:18 PM
Quote from: Denn Forever on July 09, 2010, 04:36:28 PM
Quote from: robertemmet on July 09, 2010, 01:17:03 PM
going to cavan town at the weekend? What good pubs are there for watching the World cup/Munster final on Sunday

The Imperial in the middle of the town.  Owned by former Cavan Manager Donal Keogan.
Hi there Donal,how are things?  ;D

I doubt he is Donal cos there is no way he'd be talking to you on here after your "Keoghan out" thread.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: CavanCola on July 09, 2010, 07:51:58 PM
I'll be in Cork in my wetsuit... don't forget the Oxygen traffic if your going via Dublin!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on July 09, 2010, 10:35:04 PM
Tipping down the road tomorrow together with a few other east Cavan exiles. Have to confess has been too long since I've seen the County play so will be interesting. Like most others want no more that every lad gives 100% and there is some element of playing like a team on the day.

Regarding Cork city, nobody ever died of hunger or thirst in that town that I know of so there will be crack to be had. Don't expect too much banter from local GAA heads, de City langers will be much more focused on the Munster Hockey final in Thurles the following day.
Expect crowd to be pretty small.

Travel safely and lets think the unthinkable.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on July 10, 2010, 10:48:10 AM
Sickened cos I can't make it today. All the best to the lads, I hope they all play at the top of their game and after that you just never know.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on July 10, 2010, 12:44:00 PM
Aye same myself raging I'm missing it but can't be helped.  Hopefully there is some Cork radio station I can listen to on the net so I can avoid Northern Sound
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: full moon on July 10, 2010, 04:33:58 PM
I'm sure yous are happy you didn't go now.

We thought it couldn't be this bad but it is...
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: crack on July 10, 2010, 05:09:30 PM
What gave you that impression full moon that we would do something? The sooner people on this tread and other treads realize that the whole game from the bottom to the top is in total disarray and an utter shambles. We need to get a complete new management and development that have the future of the game here in Cavan and the wider arena in mind. It's time the minor management were got rid off, the Under 21 the junior and now this so called senior county team management what a shambles.
I feel sorry for all that have passion about the game and those that had the misfortune of travelling to Clones last Sunday with the minors, the junior team last Friday week in Louth which I did and now this so called senior team get rid of everyone of the management right now this coming week before we become the laughing stock of the country if we are not all ready getting it.
Get people who have fresh ideas who will demand respect and the passion for the jersey those that will put County at a higher pedestal than their club.
The sooner that we here in Cavan realise that its like the blind leading the blind  and listening to people who don't have the county at heart just their own importance.
Come on all genuine supporters of the game be vocal and lets get all this mess sorted very soon before it gets any worse.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on July 10, 2010, 05:15:57 PM
To be honest i was expecting something like 1-20 to 1-10  1-11 or something approaching that,
1-19 to 0-04 is just shocking,Jesus even London or Kilkenny would probably score more than that in 70 minutes!!!!
I didnt listen to it on the radio,so i cant comment,im looking forward to hear about what happened from the lads at the game,AC and co.

There needs to be a major clear out of players from the panel,not going to name names,but their are at least 6/7 on there who are not up to it.
f**k it, we could do worse than apoint Micko,he might at least bring Cavan football alive again,because we are rock bottom and on this form we will be in division 4 before long.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: INDIANA on July 10, 2010, 05:36:50 PM
Too many sauce merchants. I'm well connected up there and have relations playing up there. Players were on a 4 day bender after losing to fermanagh. I've seen cavan footballers on the batter on the wednesday before NFL games. One cavan captain I saw on the lash 4 days before a championship match wearing his cavan jersey to hide himself from the crowd. Cavan have some of the most natural footballers in the game but have too many pissheads who have more acquaitance when they hit 18 with Johnny Walkers then an O Neills football.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on July 10, 2010, 05:44:19 PM
Quote from: INDIANA on July 10, 2010, 05:36:50 PM
Too many sauce merchants. I'm well connected up there and have relations playing up there. Players were on a 4 day bender after losing to fermanagh. I've seen cavan footballers on the batter on the wednesday before NFL games. One cavan captain I saw on the lash 4 days before a championship match wearing his cavan jersey to hide himself from the crowd. Cavan have some of the most natural footballers in the game but have too many pissheads who have more acquaitance when they hit 18 with Johnny Walkers then an O Neills football.

I think that is the easiest excuse to use... not near the main problem
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: crack on July 10, 2010, 05:51:08 PM
Now I feel Cork told us how good Johnston is just a small time player in division 3 and 4 games, people say he would walk onto any County team in the 32 counties well you got your answer here he is just not good enough. I have been saying it on another forum week after week that he is not good enough and off course the usual faces saying what would you know or what are you talking about, Yes time to sort out the problem and the sooner the better. What has come forward from the development squad sweet F all. Get rid of all these people and bring in fresh faces, bring in a man who will take no nonsense from players and another area of the county set up this is the only way or we will be forever living in the 40s and 50s. I hope that the County chairman will finally end Mr Carr's Mr Graham & Mr Hyland and their back room staff tenure and bring in new faces.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on July 10, 2010, 06:07:49 PM
Quote from: crack on July 10, 2010, 05:51:08 PM
Now I feel Cork told us how good Johnston is just a small time player in division 3 and 4 games, people say he would walk onto any County team in the 32 counties well you got your answer here he is just not good enough. I have been saying it on another forum week after week that he is not good enough and off course the usual faces saying what would you know or what are you talking about, Yes time to sort out the problem and the sooner the better. What has come forward from the development squad sweet F all. Get rid of all these people and bring in fresh faces, bring in a man who will take no nonsense from players and another area of the county set up this is the only way or we will be forever living in the 40s and 50s. I hope that the County chairman will finally end Mr Carr's Mr Graham & Mr Hyland and their back room staff tenure and bring in new faces.

I think you are being harsh on Johnstone. He does have some fantastic ability. What he also has is a bit of an attitude problem. I was hopeful that he has begun to move away from that but I don't know. He is still a class act when he puts his mind to it but certainly he has a long way to go before I would put him up there with the top forwards in the game.

Who would you suggest for the new faces to replace Carr, Hyland and Graham? There ain't too many candidates jumping out in front of me.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: INDIANA on July 10, 2010, 06:50:36 PM
Quote from: Celt_Man on July 10, 2010, 05:44:19 PM
Quote from: INDIANA on July 10, 2010, 05:36:50 PM
Too many sauce merchants. I'm well connected up there and have relations playing up there. Players were on a 4 day bender after losing to fermanagh. I've seen cavan footballers on the batter on the wednesday before NFL games. One cavan captain I saw on the lash 4 days before a championship match wearing his cavan jersey to hide himself from the crowd. Cavan have some of the most natural footballers in the game but have too many pissheads who have more acquaitance when they hit 18 with Johnny Walkers then an O Neills football.

I think that is the easiest excuse to use... not near the main problem

It isn't . Most of your best underage prospects end up as pissheads. i could name them.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on July 10, 2010, 07:08:09 PM
Quote from: INDIANA on July 10, 2010, 06:50:36 PM
Quote from: Celt_Man on July 10, 2010, 05:44:19 PM
Quote from: INDIANA on July 10, 2010, 05:36:50 PM
Too many sauce merchants. I'm well connected up there and have relations playing up there. Players were on a 4 day bender after losing to fermanagh. I've seen cavan footballers on the batter on the wednesday before NFL games. One cavan captain I saw on the lash 4 days before a championship match wearing his cavan jersey to hide himself from the crowd. Cavan have some of the most natural footballers in the game but have too many pissheads who have more acquaitance when they hit 18 with Johnny Walkers then an O Neills football.

I think that is the easiest excuse to use... not near the main problem

It isn't . Most of your best underage prospects end up as pissheads. i could name them.

And I would disagree but sure anyway....
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: INDIANA on July 10, 2010, 07:51:58 PM
Quote from: crack on July 10, 2010, 05:51:08 PM
Now I feel Cork told us how good Johnston is just a small time player in division 3 and 4 games, people say he would walk onto any County team in the 32 counties well you got your answer here he is just not good enough. I have been saying it on another forum week after week that he is not good enough and off course the usual faces saying what would you know or what are you talking about, Yes time to sort out the problem and the sooner the better. What has come forward from the development squad sweet F all. Get rid of all these people and bring in fresh faces, bring in a man who will take no nonsense from players and another area of the county set up this is the only way or we will be forever living in the 40s and 50s. I hope that the County chairman will finally end Mr Carr's Mr Graham & Mr Hyland and their back room staff tenure and bring in new faces.

Seanie is welcome in Dublin anytime. Amazing the lack of appreciation for a genius. Playing with the cast of Gazza and Jimmy 5 Bellies must be so frustrating for him.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on July 10, 2010, 08:05:16 PM
Carr quit after the match.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on July 10, 2010, 08:20:59 PM
Aye see that there on Hoganstand


Carr resigns as Cavan boss

Cavan manager Tommy Carr
10 July 2010


Tommy's Carr reign as Cavan manager has come to an end following this afternoon's 1-19 to 0-4 defeat to Cork at Pairc Ui Chaoimh.

Speculation had been rife over the Tipperary native's future after the Breffni men's home defeat to Fermanagh in the Ulster SFC last month, but a miraculous turn around against Wicklow in the first round of the qualifiers offered his team's season a life-line.

However, when the second round draw threw up a trip to Leeside for Cavan hopes weren't high for the Ulster side and an 18-point mauling was the result, after which he informed the players in the dressing-room that he would be stepping down.

Last year, Carr survived a vote of no confidence from the clubs in Cavan at a specially convened county board meeting in August after defeat to Wicklow saw the team suffer an early exit from the All-Ireland SFC.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on July 10, 2010, 08:31:45 PM
 It couldnt have come at a better time,2 weeks before the club championship is starting.In a perfect world, a manager would be appointed within a timeframe, whereby he would be able to witness most of the club championship and not have to take the word of others(seeing as it will probably be an outside man)regarding players when selecting a panel in December.
Wait until you see though,The County Board will wait until October to appoint a manager,and it will be the same shit once again.  >:(
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: crack on July 10, 2010, 09:26:12 PM
Quote from: crack on Today at 05:51:08 PM
Now I feel Cork told us how good Johnston is just a small time player in division 3 and 4 games, people say he would walk onto any County team in the 32 counties well you got your answer here he is just not good enough. I have been saying it on another forum week after week that he is not good enough and off course the usual faces saying what would you know or what are you talking about, Yes time to sort out the problem and the sooner the better. What has come forward from the development squad sweet F all. Get rid of all these people and bring in fresh faces, bring in a man who will take no nonsense from players and another area of the county set up this is the only way or we will be forever living in the 40s and 50s. I hope that the County chairman will finally end Mr Carr's Mr Graham & Mr Hyland and their back room staff tenure and bring in new faces.


I think you are being harsh on Johnstone. He does have some fantastic ability. What he also has is a bit of an attitude problem. I was hopeful that he has begun to move away from that but I don't know. He is still a class act when he puts his mind to it but certainly he has a long way to go before I would put him up there with the top forwards in the game.

Who would you suggest for the new faces to replace Carr, Hyland and Graham? There ain't too many candidates jumping out in front of me

well how about this for the minors.
Damien Reilly
Peter Reilly
Jason Reilly
Paul McCorry as trainer but now that Mr Carr has stood down I would want Paul McCorry as the senior trainer he is very good.

I expect John O'Mahoney will be one of the front runners.??? I hope that the new man gets rid of all of the current back room staff from the set up. The sooner the better.??
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dougal on July 10, 2010, 09:43:51 PM
just home,dont want to talk about the game at the minute.dont think theres any point either,what happened,happened,it's now time to look to the future.Carrs gone,who will take his place?and as BHman said,when will he take his place?time to dump the whole panel and base selections on championship form.

crack,you do realise that alot of those people you named are already involved with county players
was damien not involved with the u21's,jayo was involved with the minors and peter was a selector on the seniors.i thought you wanted rid of these people.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on July 10, 2010, 09:48:05 PM
Quote from: Dougal on July 10, 2010, 09:43:51 PM
just home,dont want to talk about the game at the minute.dont think theres any point either,what happened,happened,it's now time to look to the future.Carrs gone,who will take his place?and as BHman said,when will he take his place?time to dump the whole panel and base selections on championship form.

crack,you do realise that alot of those people you named are already involved with county players
was damien not involved with the u21's,jayo was involved with the minors and peter was a selector on the seniors.i thought you wanted rid of these people.
I smell a WUM and a convert from another internet GAA discussion forum
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on July 10, 2010, 09:56:25 PM
This whole notion of having lads involved in county management at Minor/under 21 etc because they are former county footballers is nonsense.
With the exception of Mickey Graham who has won numerous honours at club level,What have Damien Reily,Jayo,Peter been involved in,management wise and won??? If they have,sure correct me,but i cant think of any,these lads may turn out to be great managers,but a county job is not one where you cut your teeth in.
Its lads like Andy McGovern of Killygarry who was the mastermind behind St Pats Ulster Colleges win this year(Dalton?? ) and whom is a very well respected coach,who should be targeted to oversee these teams,not those with the higher profile reputations .
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on July 10, 2010, 10:08:49 PM
too pissed and gutted to post lads, on behalf of myself or a few exiles i attended with. laters
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dougal on July 10, 2010, 10:15:51 PM
spot on PIU and BHman.

PIU thats the team id be building around aswel,apart from flanagan,really not impressed with him.apart from that,post of the year  ;D

BHman,you ask what have they done...i was going to comment on that,but didnt because jayo is the only one id know much about,but anyway he has managed a div 4 minor team for a year.
this brining county players in to help out with county panels is stupid,unless they've done something at club level.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on July 10, 2010, 10:35:07 PM
Quote from: put-it-up on July 10, 2010, 10:31:53 PM
Quote from: Dougal on July 10, 2010, 10:15:51 PM
spot on PIU and BHman.

PIU thats the team id be building around aswel,apart from flanagan,really not impressed with him.apart from that,post of the year  ;D

BHman,you ask what have they done...i was going to comment on that,but didnt because jayo is the only one id know much about,but anyway he has managed a div 4 minor team for a year.
this brining county players in to help out with county panels is stupid,unless they've done something at club level.

Hardly, ac39's jsut above deserves some credit for his honesty and laziness ;D

I just think Flanagan needs a proper run at WB. To  me he has all the attribtue to make an excellent wing-back but he get's shunted around like I don't know what.

Who suggested Peter, Damien and Jayo? I guarentee you he has never stood in a dressing room with them. None have any record at coaching whatsoever. I can understand former county players being brought in as selectors but management and ciaching are different breeds all together.
A manager in my club delievered four u16 titles in a row yet wouldn't even be considered for any county job at any level because he doesn't lick arse and he didn't play for Cavan. That is the reality of it. I don't really like the voting on managers going to the club. It basically become a popularity contest and lets be honest half our club reps haven't a notion anyway.

Yea I know that feck all discussions would take place at our clubs for a decision to be made to give to the county board.  I would say the same could be said for most clubs
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on July 10, 2010, 10:42:21 PM
Quote from: put-it-up on July 10, 2010, 10:31:53 PM
Quote from: Dougal on July 10, 2010, 10:15:51 PM
spot on PIU and BHman.

PIU thats the team id be building around aswel,apart from flanagan,really not impressed with him.apart from that,post of the year  ;D

BHman,you ask what have they done...i was going to comment on that,but didnt because jayo is the only one id know much about,but anyway he has managed a div 4 minor team for a year.
this brining county players in to help out with county panels is stupid,unless they've done something at club level.

Hardly, ac39's jsut above deserves some credit for his honesty and laziness ;D

I just think Flanagan needs a proper run at WB. To  me he has all the attribtue to make an excellent wing-back but he get's shunted around like I don't know what.

Who suggested Peter, Damien and Jayo? I guarentee you he has never stood in a dressing room with them. None have any record at coaching whatsoever. I can understand former county players being brought in as selectors but management and ciaching are different breeds all together.
A manager in my club delievered four u16 titles in a row yet wouldn't even be considered for any county job at any level because he doesn't lick arse and he didn't play for Cavan. That is the reality of it. I don't really like the voting on managers going to the club. It basically become a popularity contest and lets be honest half our club reps haven't a notion anyway.



fecks sake piu but fair comment on the laziness front. maybe now some idea why the shamrocks honours cupboard was so bare early 80's. seriously upset at what i saw but would rather post in the am
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on July 10, 2010, 11:04:07 PM
It is just so frustrating now that we are going to have a new man coming in that is going to be as clueless as TC was when he started.
I really don't know who the new man should be but it is important we get it right. I think we might have to settle for a home-grown set up to be honest. The thought of Micko for a year are interesting to see if he could pick us up off the floor. His trainings are as ould as the hills at this stage but maybe that is what we need at this stage. To come right back down to earth. Forget all the bullshit of S+C untill we get 20 or so lads back fighting for Cavan and willing to give their all on the field. I have to admit some of our players have improved physically in recent years but that doesnt meant we are any better off as a team.  I dunno, IT is too early to decide..

AC, i have no idea what your talking about. Does the old saying, "Drink your pints and the vodka's will come" apply to you tonight :)

I think we all agree anyway that it is time to strip everything back, get a solid foundation and see what new blood we can put in and around it. We are not going to win anything soon but look at what progress Tipp have made recently. They went from Div 4 to being competitive in Div 2 and nobody try to tell me they have bettr players than us. What they have is belief, a system and work-rate.

One last thing. We need to get the local set-up moree competitive. How we do that though is another day's chat.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: crack on July 11, 2010, 12:14:08 AM
Being that you are from Ballyhaise I am not surprised you back M.Graham. What ever you say he has done at club level he has been in charged of the Cavan minors for three years and what has he returned to the county, SOD ALL.
I was in Clones last Saturday and feck me the whole team were devoiid of any game plan best he stays with Ballyhaise but if rumors are correct he is leaving you guys to take over the Cavan gales senior team to get a senior title onto his CV for it must be the easiest way to pick up a senior tilte without being smart. My opinion the man has not got it and watching the minors last week answers that, forget this person for Cavan management and move on.
Why not as a group discuss what they all have to offer and leave your club shirt out side for a while. ::)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on July 11, 2010, 12:28:26 AM
Am I the only one who saw this coming? I didn't post about the game all week because I discerned a "f**k it let's have a go, you never know what might happen" attitude growing here on the board. I didn't want to lower the mood but Jesus, I never saw us getting out of Cork without at least an 11-13 point trimming; what happened in the end is way worse but none the less surprising for it. Not trying to look wise after the event but it's just how I saw it, Cork are light years ahead of our lads, after the Fermanagh no-show it was clear Tommy hadn't a bull's notion on the line or hadn't learned a thing from the manner of the loss to Antrim the year before. Sure, the players love him and will back him, just like they did everywhere he managed - he has a reputation as a "tough disciplinarian" and I thought as much myself but talk to any former players of his and they'll tell you he's a players' man through and through, top to bottom. I'd say he gave fair latitude to our lads, a dangerous method in Cavan if not madness. In hindsight, although I was initially positive, he was a terrible appointment and has made us no better if not worse.

Forget about Mickos and John O'Mahonys and all those types. Micko has become a sort of sad parody of himself in recent years and isn't even looking for work in big counties any more while others are lads who take a certain level of professionalism, structures, ability etc. for granted, they're not men for building from scratch as is required in Cavan. What we need to unearth is a Jason Ryan or a Kevin Walsh type, lads with a fresh take and genuine ability and an ability to get the best out of their resources. Unfortunately, they wouldn't have impressed the likes of posters on here like 'crack' but luckily for Wexford and Sligo they knew better.

Expect to hear reams of shite in the coming days about Cavan not having the players yadda yadda yadda bollix, we weren't supposed to have them in 1995 either before getting to two Ulster finals in three years (winning one) and I'm sure before Walsh took over, Sligo "didn't have the players" either. I think Galway had a players problem circa 1996 before claiming an All-Ireland two years later while this mysterious players illness also stalked Division Three Mayo in the mid nineties before they reached successive All-Ireland finals. I think the player blight struck Fermanagh for a while before Charlie Mulgrew arrived as well and dammit they had it in Antrim before first Brian White and latterly Baker Bradley arrived, even if Bradley messed things up by bringing back the McGourtys and souring the panel. And if you're still reading, I reckon a good few Louth posters will tell you they had no players in recent years before the current boss took over and has them in their first Leinster decider in 50 years.

Sure, yeah, we have no players at all in Cavan where we eat, piss, shite and fart football 24/7.

Believe me, although they players need to pull up their socks and aren't blameless here, in general, players or lack of is not the most pressing problem; having the right man to lead them is where we've gone wrong with practically every appointment since McHugh, with the exception of Eamon Coleman. And that in itself would tell any observer that the custodians of the game in the county board are hardly geniuses when it comes to running things, yet they never change while managers come and go on a roll-on-roll-off basis. That's another area needs looking at but Turkeys don't vote for Christmas.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on July 11, 2010, 12:47:51 AM
Quote from: crack on July 11, 2010, 12:14:08 AM
Being that you are from Ballyhaise I am not surprised you back M.Graham. What ever you say he has done at club level he has been in charged of the Cavan minors for three years and what has he returned to the county, SOD ALL.
I was in Clones last Saturday and feck me the whole team were devoiid of any game plan best he stays with Ballyhaise but if rumors are correct he is leaving you guys to take over the Cavan gales senior team to get a senior title onto his CV for it must be the easiest way to pick up a senior tilte without being smart. My opinion the man has not got it and watching the minors last week answers that, forget this person for Cavan management and move on.
Why not as a group discuss what they all have to offer and leave your club shirt out side for a while. ::)

You forgot about this Junior Championship with Buttlersbridge.
and his Intermediate championship with Drumalee who were  underdogs against an  favoured Ballinagh team.
Im not saying he should be the next Cavan manager,however he certainly has more pedigree as a manager,than the others named as he has achieved success and is fairly experienced in management unlike the others you named.Id say he will probably be a candidate next time around for the county job after he takes the Gaels job(which we all know he will in the near future),
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on July 11, 2010, 01:23:57 AM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on July 11, 2010, 12:47:51 AM
Quote from: crack on July 11, 2010, 12:14:08 AM
Being that you are from Ballyhaise I am not surprised you back M.Graham. What ever you say he has done at club level he has been in charged of the Cavan minors for three years and what has he returned to the county, SOD ALL.
I was in Clones last Saturday and feck me the whole team were devoiid of any game plan best he stays with Ballyhaise but if rumors are correct he is leaving you guys to take over the Cavan gales senior team to get a senior title onto his CV for it must be the easiest way to pick up a senior tilte without being smart. My opinion the man has not got it and watching the minors last week answers that, forget this person for Cavan management and move on.
Why not as a group discuss what they all have to offer and leave your club shirt out side for a while. ::)

You forgot about this Junior Championship with Buttlersbridge.
and his Intermediate championship with Drumalee who were  underdogs against an  favoured Ballinagh team.
Im not saying he should be the next Cavan manager,however he certainly has more pedigree as a manager,than the others named as he has achieved success and is fairly experienced in management unlike the others you named.Id say he will probably be a candidate next time around for the county job after he takes the Gaels job(which we all know he will in the near future),

Is Graham still with Ballyhaise?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on July 11, 2010, 01:26:37 AM
Quote from: put-it-up on July 11, 2010, 01:23:57 AM
Is Graham still with Ballyhaise?

Well I believe there is an official line and an unofficial line - probably changed after last Sunday
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: full moon on July 11, 2010, 01:28:24 AM
Yes he is, unofficially though as the CB didn't want him as a club manager and county minor manager.

But he is the manager, although maybe not in name anymore. He just gives instructions from behind the dug out in Ballyhaise instead of the sideline,
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on July 11, 2010, 01:34:40 AM
Quote from: crack on July 11, 2010, 12:14:08 AM
Being that you are from Ballyhaise I am not surprised you back M.Graham. What ever you say he has done at club level he has been in charged of the Cavan minors for three years and what has he returned to the county, SOD ALL.
I was in Clones last Saturday and feck me the whole team were devoiid of any game plan best he stays with Ballyhaise but if rumors are correct he is leaving you guys to take over the Cavan gales senior team to get a senior title onto his CV for it must be the easiest way to pick up a senior tilte without being smart. My opinion the man has not got it and watching the minors last week answers that, forget this person for Cavan management and move on.
Why not as a group discuss what they all have to offer and leave your club shirt out side for a while. ::)

I dont think u read a previous post of mine or maybe through your ignorance you chose ignore it. In three years, Graham delivered two semi-finals with teams that were nowhere near as 'talented' as teams that went before him. Keoghan won jack-shit at minor and Jody Clarke was a disaster. From what I seen, Graham organised his teams and got them working hard. More importantly no matter where he has gone - players seem to want to work for him. Christ if our seniors could do that it would be a massive improvement. Obviously he has made mistakes, that is how you learn. And don't forget Fermanagh were happy to take Mal O'Rourke after he won a Cavan title with the Gaels and I think everybody would agree he has maximised resources up there. Maybe Graham didn't pick you for a minor team and you are bitter but your critiscism of him is hard to justify. I think it is too soon for him to be the Cavan Senior manager but at least he has a CV that boasts a few honours.

I met Jason Ryan and have seen him upclose in postmatch interviews. I mentioned it on this thread before but I would love to get him down here. A real love and passion for the game and a desperate desire to win. Another man that makes players want to work their socks off for him. Finding a character like him or Kevin Walsh though is easier said than done.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on July 11, 2010, 01:35:13 AM
Quote from: full moon on July 11, 2010, 01:28:24 AM
Yes he is, unofficially though as the CB didn't want him as a club manager and county minor manager.

But he is the manager, although maybe not in name anymore. He just gives instructions from behind the dug out in Ballyhaise instead of the sideline,
\

Haha, is he Cavan's first Director of Football  ;D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on July 11, 2010, 01:38:36 AM
Quote from: cavanmaniac on July 11, 2010, 12:28:26 AM
Am I the only one who saw this coming? I didn't post about the game all week because I discerned a "f**k it let's have a go, you never know what might happen" attitude growing here on the board. I didn't want to lower the mood but Jesus, I never saw us getting out of Cork without at least an 11-13 point trimming; what happened in the end is way worse but none the less surprising for it. Not trying to look wise after the event but it's just how I saw it, Cork are light years ahead of our lads, after the Fermanagh no-show it was clear Tommy hadn't a bull's notion on the line or hadn't learned a thing from the manner of the loss to Antrim the year before. Sure, the players love him and will back him, just like they did everywhere he managed - he has a reputation as a "tough disciplinarian" and I thought as much myself but talk to any former players of his and they'll tell you he's a players' man through and through, top to bottom. I'd say he gave fair latitude to our lads, a dangerous method in Cavan if not madness. In hindsight, although I was initially positive, he was a terrible appointment and has made us no better if not worse.

Forget about Mickos and John O'Mahonys and all those types. Micko has become a sort of sad parody of himself in recent years and isn't even looking for work in big counties any more while others are lads who take a certain level of professionalism, structures, ability etc. for granted, they're not men for building from scratch as is required in Cavan. What we need to unearth is a Jason Ryan or a Kevin Walsh type, lads with a fresh take and genuine ability and an ability to get the best out of their resources. Unfortunately, they wouldn't have impressed the likes of posters on here like 'crack' but luckily for Wexford and Sligo they knew better.

Expect to hear reams of shite in the coming days about Cavan not having the players yadda yadda yadda bollix, we weren't supposed to have them in 1995 either before getting to two Ulster finals in three years (winning one) and I'm sure before Walsh took over, Sligo "didn't have the players" either. I think Galway had a players problem circa 1996 before claiming an All-Ireland two years later while this mysterious players illness also stalked Division Three Mayo in the mid nineties before they reached successive All-Ireland finals. I think the player blight struck Fermanagh for a while before Charlie Mulgrew arrived as well and dammit they had it in Antrim before first Brian White and latterly Baker Bradley arrived, even if Bradley messed things up by bringing back the McGourtys and souring the panel. And if you're still reading, I reckon a good few Louth posters will tell you they had no players in recent years before the current boss took over and has them in their first Leinster decider in 50 years.

Sure, yeah, we have no players at all in Cavan where we eat, piss, shite and fart football 24/7.

Believe me, although they players need to pull up their socks and aren't blameless here, in general, players or lack of is not the most pressing problem; having the right man to lead them is where we've gone wrong with practically every appointment since McHugh, with the exception of Eamon Coleman. And that in itself would tell any observer that the custodians of the game in the county board are hardly geniuses when it comes to running things, yet they never change while managers come and go on a roll-on-roll-off basis. That's another area needs looking at but Turkeys don't vote for Christmas.

I touched on it several times. The more I thought about it the more and felt we were going to get hammered. Even that fecking Octopus knew it.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tierworker blue on July 11, 2010, 02:56:04 AM
Just after rowlin' in from Cork folks...it has been yet another long, frustrating, beeatch of a day.
I'm not going to bother with a diagnosis right now...far to full of intoxicants to bother 'til tomorrow (whenever the hangover wears off!)......Up Cavan (sniff sniff...)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on July 11, 2010, 10:03:22 AM
First game attended in ages yesterday so take my comments in that light. It was always going to be difficult with the opposition and the venue.

Now that I have the formalities out of the way.

this was clearly a do or die fixture for lads that are supposed to have been training together since January, from about five minutes in it was clear that the entire 15 just werent up for it. There was very little leadership on the pitch, the 2 or 3 "go to" players that a young lad might look to when we were looking to get dug out of a tight spot.

If there was a game plan it wasn't apparent. The hammering yesterday had it's starting point in being totally wiped out around the middle of the park. We won one kickout in the entire first half. I'm not sure how many kickouts we had but every single one went long, central and came straight back at us. It was hard to fault the backs who worked hard in the face of a red tide coming at them all day. Thought Sheridan and McCutcheon soldiered well enough on a tough day. Thought Flanagan tried hard enough but got physicaled off the ball a bit.

Cork people around us were quite surprised at how poor we were. Cavan Maniac just about summed up the conversation in our car on the way home last night. Limerick, Tipp, Wexford, Louth, Sligo, Longford etc. etc. aren't supposed to have the players but seem capable of putting it up to the so called bigger guns on a regular enough basis. We have enough lads playing at a high level in colleges football to at least match what they are producing how we do that is the issue. O'Mahony, Kernan etc. have shown that the big name managerial appointment isn't always the answer.

For the record, Walsh and Philip Brady started instead of McGuigan and Mackey respectively. Philip Brady replaced by Mackey after 20 minutes. Nesty got gate early in second half, for what I am not sure.

Fair play to the number of Cavan people who made the long trek, pity they didn't see a bit better.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on July 11, 2010, 07:04:00 PM
Anyone know what Ciaran Brady of Gowna is up to these days?

I don't know anything about him but I remember he wouldn't take the u21 job because he didn't want to be a Yes-Man under Carr. That gives a good first impression to me.

I have thought more about it and I think I would prefer to see a Cavan ma back in the hot-seat. Whether anybody is suitable, I don't know.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on July 11, 2010, 08:02:38 PM
Quote from: put-it-up on July 11, 2010, 07:04:00 PM
Anyone know what Ciaran Brady of Gowna is up to these days?

I don't know anything about him but I remember he wouldn't take the u21 job because he didn't want to be a Yes-Man under Carr. That gives a good first impression to me.

I have thought more about it and I think I would prefer to see a Cavan ma back in the hot-seat. Whether anybody is suitable, I don't know.

If hes anything like what he was as a player as he is as a manager,you would get the impression that he wouldnt be the county boards cup of tea,He turned down the under 21 job as you said,as he refused to be a lackey to the senior management.
Im sure he would install a bit of passion and pride in a team,as you got it in abundance from him as a player.

id be of the opinion

Michael Hannon
John McCutcheon
Alan Clarke
Martin Cahill
Dermot Sheridan
David Givney
Gareth Smith
Seanie Johnson
Cian Mackey
Michael Brennan
Eoin McGuigan
Ronan Flanagan
Mark McKeever

13 lads who should be in a panel  of 30 next year who have done enough for me.
The likes of Dane O Dowd,Eoin McPhillips,Eoin Smith,Declan McKiernan need to be given plenty of football in the McKenna Cup and league to stake a place on the team.
Give the under 21 prospects like Gearoid McKiernan etc a shot.
6/7 new players with size and mobility need to be brought in to the panel.
2/3 midfield options, and a targetman for full forward are needed in particular.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on July 11, 2010, 08:30:21 PM
I dunno he jsut popped into my head earlier as maybe someone who should be tried. Someone different and not in the county board 'click'. We need to ruffle a few feathers, both of players and committee. A strong character is needed. I am jsut so annoyed though that the whole championship is going to be missed for scouting new players.

And Jaysus BHM, keep talking sense like that and you might get yourself a new job  ;D

I just do not buy for one second we are as crap as we have played recently. I have touched on it before but in that spell against Wicklow a lot of the lads showed they have fire in the belly - in there somewhere. Althought I would freshen up alot of the squad, everyone agrees that the spine of the team is already there. We jsut need someone to go in and sprinkle petrol on the small flame in their stomachs and get some genuine belief. I think a Cavan man has to do that. Look at Louth today - they ran their arses off and competed all over the field. Now someone honestly try to tell me that pound for pound they are better than us. They are not. They are jsut playing to their potential, have a set system and more importantly work again and again and again.

I would keep all those core names you mentioned BHM. You listed 13. I would sprinkle 7 or 8 recent u 21's amongst them for a fresh attitude and for players who don't carry the scars of recent years. Then try get the likes of Darren Smith and a few of the Gaels in. The fact is we need to get everybody that is good enough in and rowing the boat for Cavan. Because if we don't start rowing soon - we're going to be shipwrecked...
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on July 11, 2010, 08:46:22 PM
The Gaels lads will row in when they feel there's a professional set up in place, or so we've been hearing, so hopefully if we get that, a few more of them will filter in and boost it up a bit. The grit they showed against Galls last spring is the benchmark for the county team in terms of spirit, application, collective effort and refusal to give in (not discipline though!). That's where we have to get if we're to have any hope and we need a man that can put it in place, I know nothing about Ciaran Brady but if he can do that, then give him the gig.

Or just take the Gaels manager even  ;D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on July 11, 2010, 09:07:03 PM
Quote from: cavanmaniac on July 11, 2010, 08:46:22 PM
The Gaels lads will row in when they feel there's a professional set up in place, or so we've been hearing, so hopefully if we get that, a few more of them will filter in and boost it up a bit. The grit they showed against Galls last spring is the benchmark for the county team in terms of spirit, application, collective effort and refusal to give in (not discipline though!). That's where we have to get if we're to have any hope and we need a man that can put it in place, I know nothing about Ciaran Brady but if he can do that, then give him the gig.

Or just take the Gaels manager even  ;D

Ah hold on - next you will want the Gaels lads to be player managers. Let us get in Obama for a speech. We need a united Cavan!
Really interested to hear what Brady is up to these days to see if he done anything after that success in Longford.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on July 11, 2010, 09:35:03 PM
Who is manager of Cavan Gaels?  Get him and maybe he'll bring some of the CG players with him.

Calm heads needed now.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on July 11, 2010, 09:52:59 PM
Quote from: Denn Forever on July 11, 2010, 09:35:03 PM
Who is manager of Cavan Gaels?  Get him and maybe he'll bring some of the CG players with him.

Calm heads needed now.

You would like to think we could find a new manager before the end of the championships - so the new lad can have a look at the competitive club games. When do they actually start lads? Have heard feck all about them
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on July 11, 2010, 10:08:37 PM
Quote from: put-it-up on July 11, 2010, 09:52:59 PM
Quote from: Denn Forever on July 11, 2010, 09:35:03 PM
Who is manager of Cavan Gaels?  Get him and maybe he'll bring some of the CG players with him.

Calm heads needed now.

You would like to think we could find a new manager before the end of the championships - so the new lad can have a look at the competitive club games. When do they actually start lads? Have heard feck all about them

First Championship games start Thursday week, then the second round of games are the following weekend.  The third round of games aren't fixed yet
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on July 11, 2010, 10:10:06 PM

Thursday 22th i think it is PIU


1st round of games  Thursday, 22nd July -Sunday 25th
2nd round Thursday 29th-Sunday 1st August

1st Round of games

Thursday 22nd July
8pm
Hotel Kilmore Senior Championship
Lacken v Castlerahan
Venue: Kingspan Breffni Park
Referee: Michael Lee

Thursday, 22nd July 2010 @ 8pm
Hotel Kilmore Intermediate Championship
Killeshandra v Drumgoon
Venue: Max McGrath Memorial Park
Referee: Seamus O'Connor

Thursday, 22nd July 2010 @ 8pm
Hotel Kilmore Junior Championship
Munterconnacht v Cornfean
Venue: Sheelin Park, Ballymachugh
Referee: Tony Gregory
Kildallon v Mountnugent
Venue: St. Felim's Park, Drumalee
Referee: Ciaran McCarville
Maghera v Shercock
Venue: St. Anne's Park, Bailieboro
Referee: Noel Mooney

Friday, 23rd July 2010 @ 8pm
Hotel Kilmore Senior Championship
Lavey v Cavan Gaels
Venue: Kingspan Breffni Park
Referee: MG Brady
Ballinagh v Ramor Utd
Venue: Dr Plunkett Park, Kilnaleck
Referee: Jimmy Galligan, Killygarry

Friday, 23rd July 2010 @ 8pm
Hotel Kilmore Intermediate Championship
Drumlane v Ballymachugh
Venue: Crowe Memorial Park, Lacken
Referee: Jimmy Galligan, Lacken
Knockbride v Drung
Venue: Hugh O'Reilly Park, Cootehill
Referee: Gerry Sheridan

Saturday, 24th July 2010 @ 8pm
Hotel Kilmore Senior Championship
Denn v Gowna
Venue: Kingspan Breffni Park
Referee: Martin Sexton
Cuchulainns v Kingscourt
Venue: Ramor Utd Park, Virginia
Referee: Martin Brady Ballinagh

Saturday, 24th July 2010 @ 8pm
Hotel Kilmore Intermediate Championship
Ballyhaise v Butlersbridge (Game at 6.30pm)
Venue: Kingspan Breffni Park
Referee: Raymond Tynan
Baileborough v Cavan Gaels
Venue: PJ Duke Park, Stradone
Referee: Brian Seagrave
Drumalee v Kill
Venue: Athletic Grounds, Crubany
Referee: Chris McCaffrey

Saturday, 24th July 2010 @ 8pm
Hotel Kilmore Junior Championship
Arva v Corlough
Venue: Paric na gCead Uladh, Ballyconnell First Ulsters
Referee: John Cassidy

Sunday, 25th July 2010
Hotel Kilmore Senior Championship
Redhills v Blackwater Gaels (Game at 2.30pm)
Venue: New Inns, Lavey
Referee: Joe McQuillan
Crosserlough v Killygarry (Game at 4pm)
Venue: Kingspan Breffni Park
Referee: Ollie Donohoe
Belturbet v Mullahoran (Game at 7.30pm)
Venue: Kingspan Breffni Park
Referee: Raymond Kelly

Sunday, 25th July 2010 @ 2.30pm
Hotel Kilmore Intermediate Championship
Cootehill v Killinkere
Venue: Kingspan Breffni Park
Referee: Jim Giblin

Sunday, 25th July 2010 @ 2.30pm
Hotel Kilmore Junior Championship
Shannon Gaels v Swanlinbar
Venue: St Patrick's, Corlough
Referee: Packie Smith


Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on July 11, 2010, 10:13:54 PM
Thanks lads.

Ah why are we such a mess  >:(
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: crack on July 11, 2010, 11:53:32 PM
Michael Hannon not good enough
John McCutcheon worth going along with honest lad
Alan Clarke MAYBE but not very sure
Martin Cahill heart heart heart but is he up to intercounty football
Dermot Sheridan playes with passion so maybe a bit further out the field
David Givney yes deffo
Gareth Smith no passion and I feel will move on
Seanie Johnson me me me man disruptive in any dressing room, what a shame he cannot be a team player
Cian Mackey not good enough and now with his pub to many late nights so a non starter for next year
Michael Brennan not good enough
Eoin McGuigan works hard but will be there next year I expect
Ronan Flanagan maybe
Mark McKeever yes have to keep him
along with the other players you mention don't forget young Geroid McKiernon
bring back G. Pierson and I am sure that the gales lads will come on board if a few who are on the panel will be removed
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Babe Ruth 47 on July 12, 2010, 02:12:48 AM
Just bak in the door from Cork. Today turned out to be a beautiful day, so made the most of it. Absolutely disgusted, a turkey shoot. We looked like a team of U-16s,  Cork have some phenominally physical players. A quick question re Walsh, how has he got so far in his football career without the ability to use his hands? Did he cleanly gather possession once throughout the entire game?

Must have heard at least a dozen Cork people comment about how sad it was to see such a proud county, with such a wonderful tradition be absolutely humiliated.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on July 12, 2010, 08:14:58 AM
Quote from: crack on July 11, 2010, 11:53:32 PM
Michael Hannon not good enough
John McCutcheon worth going along with honest lad
Alan Clarke MAYBE but not very sure
Martin Cahill heart heart heart but is he up to intercounty football
Dermot Sheridan playes with passion so maybe a bit further out the field
David Givney yes deffo
Gareth Smith no passion and I feel will move on
Seanie Johnson me me me man disruptive in any dressing room, what a shame he cannot be a team player
Cian Mackey not good enough and now with his pub to many late nights so a non starter for next year
Michael Brennan not good enough
Eoin McGuigan works hard but will be there next year I expect
Ronan Flanagan maybe
Mark McKeever yes have to keep him
along with the other players you mention don't forget young Geroid McKiernon
bring back G. Pierson and I am sure that the gales lads will come on board if a few who are on the panel will be removed

Can't agree with you on Gareth Smith. One of the better players we had  this year. Even rte radio said that when was sent of against Cork at least he was showing some sort of passion which his Cavan born team mates didn't. He can kick a free, play a pass and take a score. He may need work being done but you have to remember this was his 1st inter county run too. Also think Mackey has something to offer, he seems like a confidence player and somewhere between league and championship he lost his mojo!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: crack on July 12, 2010, 09:46:50 AM
Passing through he will move on like Gallagher, Makey has nothing to offer the Intercounty Scene I am sorry. Time to move on, all these players well most of them before they corrupt the next batch coming through if they are not all ready got at.
Smith is a fine player but he will move on, I hope I am wrong but sadly I don't think he will hang around for more of the same if we keep most of the same panel of players because that is all it is. I hope that the new boss will not set his targts too hight for next year but I do hope that his first aim is to get a team we can respect and then promotion from division three. One step at a time.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on July 12, 2010, 09:50:34 AM
Crack, are you from Cavan or Cork?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on July 12, 2010, 11:52:47 AM
Quote from: Lawrence of Knockbride on July 12, 2010, 09:50:34 AM
Crack, are you from Cavan or Cork?

Doesn't matter as its good to get outside input/analysis.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on July 12, 2010, 12:04:00 PM
Quote from: Denn Forever on July 12, 2010, 11:52:47 AM
Quote from: Lawrence of Knockbride on July 12, 2010, 09:50:34 AM
Crack, are you from Cavan or Cork?

Doesn't matter as its good to get outside input/analysis.
I'm not trying to censor him/her. I'm just bewildered by some of the points made and am wondering how he/she has such knowledge of the Cavan scene.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: crack on July 12, 2010, 12:21:02 PM
Quote from: Lawrence of Knockbride on July 12, 2010, 12:04:00 PM
Quote from: Denn Forever on July 12, 2010, 11:52:47 AM
Quote from: Lawrence of Knockbride on July 12, 2010, 09:50:34 AM
Crack, are you from Cavan or Cork?

Doesn't matter as its good to get outside input/analysis.
I'm not trying to censor him/her. I'm just bewildered by some of the points made and am wondering how he/she has such knowledge of the Cavan scene.

Would you say my points are positive or negative???
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on July 12, 2010, 12:54:57 PM
Quote from: crack on July 12, 2010, 12:21:02 PM
Quote from: Lawrence of Knockbride on July 12, 2010, 12:04:00 PM
Quote from: Denn Forever on July 12, 2010, 11:52:47 AM
Quote from: Lawrence of Knockbride on July 12, 2010, 09:50:34 AM
Crack, are you from Cavan or Cork?

Doesn't matter as its good to get outside input/analysis.
I'm not trying to censor him/her. I'm just bewildered by some of the points made and am wondering how he/she has such knowledge of the Cavan scene.

Would you say my points are positive or negative???

I would say your posts sound like a certain Gentleman's from Hoganstand who is emplyed in Breffni Park  ::)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: crack on July 12, 2010, 01:13:36 PM
I am not a member of hoganstand nor employed in Breffni Park either just a peson with a view "opinion". ......................................
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on July 12, 2010, 01:43:20 PM
Quote from: crack on July 12, 2010, 12:21:02 PM
Quote from: Lawrence of Knockbride on July 12, 2010, 12:04:00 PM
Quote from: Denn Forever on July 12, 2010, 11:52:47 AM
Quote from: Lawrence of Knockbride on July 12, 2010, 09:50:34 AM
Crack, are you from Cavan or Cork?

Doesn't matter as its good to get outside input/analysis.
I'm not trying to censor him/her. I'm just bewildered by some of the points made and am wondering how he/she has such knowledge of the Cavan scene.

Would you say my points are positive or negative???
Well there'll largely negative but that's not what I meant. I just don't agree with a lot of what you said and I'm wondering how someone from Cork would have such a depth of knowledge to have such strong opinions.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: crack on July 12, 2010, 03:57:04 PM
Quote from: Lawrence of Knockbride on July 12, 2010, 01:43:20 PM
Quote from: crack on July 12, 2010, 12:21:02 PM
Quote from: Lawrence of Knockbride on July 12, 2010, 12:04:00 PM
Quote from: Denn Forever on July 12, 2010, 11:52:47 AM
Quote from: Lawrence of Knockbride on July 12, 2010, 09:50:34 AM
Crack, are you from Cavan or Cork?

Doesn't matter as its good to get outside input/analysis.

I expect that I have lived in Cavan as long if not longer than you have and your reply is typical as to why the situation is as it is here in Cavan. You I expect like many more cannot see beyond the current bunch of players that are representing Cavan but after the last few weeks don't you think its time you sat back and reviewed the whole structure and players that are currently representing Cavan. I suppose it would be fair to say not one of the current players on the senior team would make an impact on many County teams if any at this moment so the sooner that the powers that be stood back and did some constructive thinking the better it will be for the future of the game here in Cavan.
Point of note I am not an arm chair critic and I am a loyal supporter to my adopted county.

I'm not trying to censor him/her. I'm just bewildered by some of the points made and am wondering how he/she has such knowledge of the Cavan scene.

Would you say my points are positive or negative???
Well there'll largely negative but that's not what I meant. I just don't agree with a lot of what you said and I'm wondering how someone from Cork would have such a depth of knowledge to have such strong opinions.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on July 12, 2010, 05:32:18 PM
Quote from: crack on July 12, 2010, 03:57:04 PM
Quote from: Lawrence of Knockbride on July 12, 2010, 01:43:20 PM
Quote from: crack on July 12, 2010, 12:21:02 PM
Quote from: Lawrence of Knockbride on July 12, 2010, 12:04:00 PM
Quote from: Denn Forever on July 12, 2010, 11:52:47 AM
Quote from: Lawrence of Knockbride on July 12, 2010, 09:50:34 AM
Crack, are you from Cavan or Cork?

Doesn't matter as its good to get outside input/analysis.

I expect that I have lived in Cavan as long if not longer than you have and your reply is typical as to why the situation is as it is here in Cavan. You I expect like many more cannot see beyond the current bunch of players that are representing Cavan but after the last few weeks don’t you think its time you sat back and reviewed the whole structure and players that are currently representing Cavan. I suppose it would be fair to say not one of the current players on the senior team would make an impact on many County teams if any at this moment so the sooner that the powers that be stood back and did some constructive thinking the better it will be for the future of the game here in Cavan.
Point of note I am not an arm chair critic and I am a loyal supporter to my adopted county.

I'm not trying to censor him/her. I'm just bewildered by some of the points made and am wondering how he/she has such knowledge of the Cavan scene.

Would you say my points are positive or negative???
Well there'll largely negative but that's not what I meant. I just don't agree with a lot of what you said and I'm wondering how someone from Cork would have such a depth of knowledge to have such strong opinions.
An even more bewildering reply hidden away in the middle of a quote.
I simply asked where you were from as you were posting about Cavan but your profile says Cork. I was curious as to how you might know so much or at least have opinions on so much in a different county to the one you're from. Then I simply said that I disagreed with a lot of what you said and you replied that  "you expect" you've lived in Cavan as long as me ( ??? ??? ???) and that you expect that I can't see beyond the current players on the panel. This is all despite the fact that I didn't offer my opinion on the game at all or that I didn't point out what I disagreed with. I am also not an armchair fan although I'm not sure why you threw that in. I expect that you expected me to think you were ;)
Anyway, by the longest way possible I have at least found out what I wanted to know so thanks for that.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on July 12, 2010, 05:54:03 PM
Quote from: put-it-up on July 12, 2010, 12:54:57 PM
Quote from: crack on July 12, 2010, 12:21:02 PM
Quote from: Lawrence of Knockbride on July 12, 2010, 12:04:00 PM
Quote from: Denn Forever on July 12, 2010, 11:52:47 AM
Quote from: Lawrence of Knockbride on July 12, 2010, 09:50:34 AM
Crack, are you from Cavan or Cork?

Doesn't matter as its good to get outside input/analysis.
I'm not trying to censor him/her. I'm just bewildered by some of the points made and am wondering how he/she has such knowledge of the Cavan scene.

Would you say my points are positive or negative???

I would say your posts sound like a certain Gentleman's from Hoganstand who is emplyed in Breffni Park  ::)

Thought he sounded like that bollox too...
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on July 12, 2010, 07:36:30 PM
Quote from: Celt_Man on July 12, 2010, 05:54:03 PM
Quote from: put-it-up on July 12, 2010, 12:54:57 PM
Quote from: crack on July 12, 2010, 12:21:02 PM
Quote from: Lawrence of Knockbride on July 12, 2010, 12:04:00 PM
Quote from: Denn Forever on July 12, 2010, 11:52:47 AM
Quote from: Lawrence of Knockbride on July 12, 2010, 09:50:34 AM
Crack, are you from Cavan or Cork?

Doesn't matter as its good to get outside input/analysis.
I'm not trying to censor him/her. I'm just bewildered by some of the points made and am wondering how he/she has such knowledge of the Cavan scene.

Would you say my points are positive or negative???

I would say your posts sound like a certain Gentleman's from Hoganstand who is emplyed in Breffni Park  ::)

Thought he sounded like that bollox too...

His use of Language reminds me of someone anyway! Rambles in posts and you can't make heads nor tails of them at times  ;D Maybe it is myself I am thinking of  8)

I cant believe Tynan said on the radio that your man from Breffni was interested in the job. I mean, come on! You know your in trouble when you tune into the oppositions local radion station instead of your own. When are NS gonna freshen up and get some sense in there?

I wonder if the CB will say something to the Celt this week. The new chairman has a chance now to show he really means business and it would be interesting to hear what he has to say,..

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on July 12, 2010, 11:46:29 PM
Quote from: put-it-up on July 12, 2010, 07:36:30 PM
I cant believe Tynan said on the radio that your man from Breffni was interested in the job. I mean, come on! You know your in trouble when you tune into the oppositions local radion station instead of your own. When are NS gonna freshen up and get some sense in there?

I actually came very close to bouncing the radio off the wall when I heard that shite on Saturday.  To actually entertain the notion enough to broadcast it on the radio is nothing short of a scandal but not too surprised either
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: JUst retired on July 13, 2010, 07:59:35 AM
Thats a first. Get beaten in a football game and blame the local radio station ! :D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: PhilsJemmysField on July 13, 2010, 10:48:59 AM
Mr Hyland will be the front runner as he very definitely wants the job, but would really need a strong back-room team to add a bit of real science to the training. He will be the ultimate County Board pick, cheap and will agree with whatever he is given. Maybe Ciaran Brady will throw his hat into the ring as well, so who was named by Tynan as interested in job. Right now from what I have seen of Div 1 and 2 football this year we are definitely lacking big mobile men to place around the centre diamond  so we need an extremely dedicated bunch in that area to start to compete.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: JMohan on July 13, 2010, 03:34:03 PM
Quote from: JUst retired on July 13, 2010, 07:59:35 AM
Thats a first. Get beaten in a football game and blame the local radio station ! :D

Funniest post of the day!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on July 13, 2010, 03:56:08 PM
I know its from Hoganstand but are people thinking this? 
You'l have to change your footer again BHM

A open letter to Donal Keogan...................................................

All those smart asses that hounded you out of office Donal were all wrong.
I know that you have the interest of Cavan football at heart and that you got a raw deal from people that should know better( But the lord says God forgive those that know not what the do)Should you decided to return to us in our hour of need I feel that it will give great satisfaction to your self and to all of us.
On your return clear out that mess of people that the recent incumbert left behind. Place all the clip boards and diet sheets, in the bin and lets get back to good old fashioned football of Cavan style of old. I breaks my heart to see that we as a once great county that was feared by many are now down in the lowest level possible. 
13/07/2010 13:54:13

And he explains why

In reponse to your question, I could quote many reasons for Donals return
No 1 He is home grown.
No 2 He is a Cavan man at heart.
No 3 He is a successful busness man.
No 4 His life/ family are deeply immersed in GAA.
No 5 He was progressive in hi s outlook.
No 6 He is a man that cannot suffer fools.
No 7 Only for a lasy minute goal he would still be in cvharge.
No 8 He was not a clip board man.
Will I go on or will I just say There are none so blind as those that do not wish to see (Old testament ) book of letters .

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Logan on July 13, 2010, 04:04:42 PM
Quote from: put-it-up on July 11, 2010, 01:35:13 AM
Quote from: full moon on July 11, 2010, 01:28:24 AM
Yes he is, unofficially though as the CB didn't want him as a club manager and county minor manager.

But he is the manager, although maybe not in name anymore. He just gives instructions from behind the dug out in Ballyhaise instead of the sideline,
\

Haha, is he Cavan's first Director of Football  ;D
No.

That's Bart McEnroe
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4sam on July 13, 2010, 04:25:42 PM
Bart is a Sports Psychologist
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on July 13, 2010, 04:33:53 PM
Quote from: Denn Forever on July 13, 2010, 03:56:08 PM
I know its from Hoganstand but are people thinking this? 
You'l have to change your footer again BHM

A open letter to Donal Keogan...................................................

All those smart asses that hounded you out of office Donal were all wrong.
I know that you have the interest of Cavan football at heart and that you got a raw deal from people that should know better( But the lord says God forgive those that know not what the do)Should you decided to return to us in our hour of need I feel that it will give great satisfaction to your self and to all of us.
On your return clear out that mess of people that the recent incumbert left behind. Place all the clip boards and diet sheets, in the bin and lets get back to good old fashioned football of Cavan style of old. I breaks my heart to see that we as a once great county that was feared by many are now down in the lowest level possible. 
13/07/2010 13:54:13

And he explains why

In reponse to your question, I could quote many reasons for Donals return
No 1 He is home grown.
No 2 He is a Cavan man at heart.
No 3 He is a successful busness man.
No 4 His life/ family are deeply immersed in GAA.
No 5 He was progressive in hi s outlook.
No 6 He is a man that cannot suffer fools.
No 7 Only for a lasy minute goal he would still be in cvharge.
No 8 He was not a clip board man.
Will I go on or will I just say There are none so blind as those that do not wish to see (Old testament ) book of letters .


I don't read HS much but have seen this lad's posts and I am about 95% convinced that he's a piss-taker so I wouldn't pay much attention to it. Now that would be worth at least a brief laugh - Keoghan being reappointed. Does anyone else find it a little odd that Carr gave an interview from the team bus stating that he had not resigned but that he's believed to have told the players he's gone. It's not exactly clear what the position is.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: full moon on July 13, 2010, 04:38:40 PM
Donal Keoghan back in charge, oh dear lets let that rubbish stay on hoganstand.
Of course he could bring his Pimp attire that he loved showing off at the hen festival and do a dance on the sideline, it can't get any worse anyway.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on July 13, 2010, 08:00:58 PM
He is certainly a total piss taker. I remember after one  the league games he wrote this big long ode to Keoghan and it was clocked on his post as being written  minutes before the end of the match. What a joker.

Donal Keoghan, the thought of that fool coming back would drive me to give Carr 3 more years!

As to the real question my feeling is we are going to have to take a punt on an unknown quantity. Ciaran Brady maybe within the county or maybe someone like Peter Canavan looking for a chance to cut his teeth in management. Forget about the mercenaries and so called big names, we need to get a Jason Ryan type that can inspire the players to play to their potential.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on July 13, 2010, 08:36:01 PM
Hard to imagine Canavan wanting to start his inter county managerial career with us. Imagine he might weigh it up and come to the conclusion that there's too high a probability of getting his career off to a poor start. It's the fellas flying below the radar that would be more likely to take us on I would have thought (Jason Ryan/Glen Ryan being recent examples), finding those lads is a whole different issue. Regarding local talent, Terry Hyland was part of TC's team, I think.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mrgaa1 on July 13, 2010, 09:06:21 PM
Surely Cavan's problems stem much further than the county team.  When was the last time Cavan won an Ulster minor or U-21 title?  Are there development squads in Cavan at U-15, 16, 17?  When level are coach's at ?  Are clubs now ensuring that their coach's are level 1 and attend coaching courses?  When was the lat time time a Cavan Club won an Ulster title? and when before that?
Other counties are reaping the rewards of better and much improved under-age structure so that players that come through to inter-county level are fitter, stronger, more rounded players who are coached by excellent coachs outside of their club.
Looking in from the outside Cavan have no direction, no rudder.  OF course the county team is the shop window but if the stuff being put in the window is seriously flawed...... 
Cork are an exceptional team and it will take a physical team full of MEN who can play football to beat them.  How Kerry beat them I don't know but it will take some team to beat them to stop them winning Sam this year.
If it was me I wouldn't look outside the county for the manager, but I would look outside for backroom staff.  Remove the dead wood, clear out and start with last years U-21's and build on them because, quite frankly, can it get any worse?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on July 13, 2010, 10:47:10 PM
1996 and no it can't get much worse.  But we'll give it a damn good try.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on July 13, 2010, 11:45:14 PM
If anyone but Keogan had bought themselves the management position in charge of the minor team the year Flanagan, Mackey, Cillian Sheridan etc. was on it, we'd have an All-Ireland minor in the bag I'm convinced of it.

Last-minute choking in the Ulster U21 final and headlessness by Gaynor cost us an U21 under Eamon Coleman and this year, the hare-brained decision by Hyland to leave Rory Dunne one-on-one with Donegal's Michael Murphy probably cost us another.

It's all a bit "if me aunty had balls she'd be me uncle", I know that, but there's players in Cavan can get us competing if we'd only organise ourselves.

Interestingly, heard Carr on Maudlin Sound saying that it's not all down to him, and that "Cavan football needs to look at itself" and ask why there's 8/9 players who don't want to contribute to the county team. Now part of the answer may well be Tommy's poor set up itself but at least he's putting the question out there in the open at last.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on July 14, 2010, 08:00:59 PM
I dont think DK will be brought back now lads - come on! Pure Hoganstand shite - I gave up in it ages ago. Couldn't even tell you that last time I posted on it!

Wonder if any of the local bookies have prices for a new gaffer yet?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: beer baron on July 14, 2010, 10:35:11 PM
Any sign of prices for the championships?Gaels are hardly anything bigger than 1/3?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on July 14, 2010, 10:47:51 PM
Quote from: beer baron on July 14, 2010, 10:35:11 PM
Any sign of prices for the championships?Gaels are hardly anything bigger than 1/3?

Here you are from Paddy Power. I think Dougal posted these a while back but there's been some movement
Win Only
Cavan Gaels    1/2
   
Beltubret    16/1
   
Cuchulainn    33/1
Castlerahan    13/2
   
Kingscourt    16/1
   
Lacken    50/1
Killygarry    8/1
   
Redhills    16/1
   
Lavey    66/1
Mullahoran    8/1
   
Gowna    20/1
   
Ballinagh    66/1
Denn    12/1
   
Ramor Utd    20/1
   
Crosserlough    100
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: beer baron on July 14, 2010, 10:54:49 PM
1/2 for the Gaels  :o it may sound weird but that seems like great value seeing as it's highly doubtful anyone will get within an asses roar of them!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on July 14, 2010, 11:12:09 PM
Yeah there's no offer for each way so there's no huge incentive to back any of the others.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on July 14, 2010, 11:53:21 PM
No Value in them prices at all with no each-way. Hard to look past the Gaels. I'm gonna put my two houses on them - I need one more for the kids.

The fact that the second favourite is 13/2 pretty much shows how much of a one-horse race it is. Kingscourt were 33/1 at the start. Some money must have went that way  ;)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BigMac on July 15, 2010, 11:57:06 AM
So hes definitely gone, and they say terry Hyland is the favourit to get the job. No offence to Terry, but I have played under him and I don't think this is a progressive move for the county if he gets the job. His "tactics" are basic at best and I dont think he has the ability to see how to change a game if its not going well.

Cavan board confirms Carr's departure

Cavan manager Tommy Carr
15 July 2010


Tommy Carr's two-year reign as Cavan football manager officially ended last night.

The Cavan county board issued a statement confirming the former Dublin and Roscommon supremo's departure in the wake of last Saturday's 0-4 to 1-19 mauling by Cork in the All-Ireland qualifiers.

Carr succeeded Donal Keogan at the end of 2008, but had to survive a vote of no confidence last August to hold on to his job. Following their defeat to Fermanagh in the first round of this year's Ulster SFC, the Breffnimen registered a remarkable comeback win over Wicklow with just 13 players before being brought crashing back down to earth with a bang last weekend.



The county board statement read: "After some considerable thought, Tom believes that it would be to the benefit of all involved for him to step aside as manager of the Cavan senior team, and in doing so he wishes the best for Cavan football.

"The chairman and officers of Cavan county board would like to express our gratitude to Tom Carr for his efforts in our county, and wish him and his family health and good luck in the future."

Lacken's Terry Hyland, who managed the Cavan under 21 and junior teams to provincial final appearances this year, is the early favourite to succeed Carr.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Terry Coyle on July 15, 2010, 12:40:20 PM
Quote from: BigMac on July 15, 2010, 11:57:06 AM

Lacken's Terry Hyland, who managed the Cavan under 21 and junior teams to provincial final appearances this year, is the early favourite to succeed Carr.

Holy sh*t from bad to worse. Agree with you Mac, has no tactics whatsoever terrible decision if they go ahead with this.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on July 15, 2010, 01:35:08 PM
How can it get any worse?

We are not as good as we think we are so maybe we'll have to reach rock bottom before we improve.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on July 15, 2010, 01:48:28 PM
If Terry Hyland gets the job then it's official...the county board either has no clue about the nature of the problems facing the county side and worse, no ambition to put it right. Will Terry Hyland inspire all the absentees to come back and give the county team their support? I doubt it. He seems to be a good club manager but I genuinely believe he'd be totally out of his depth at senior intercounty level.

I bumped into highly respected manager a fortnight ago, one who knows the county well and a man we all respect, and I mentioned Hyland to him as the likely soft-option replacement for Carr (after Cork would inevitably hammer us). He just looked at me and shook his head.

If this is the first move made by a new chairman with a chance now to show he has his head screwed on, means business and is in touch with the challenge, then the mind boggles. I give up.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BigMac on July 15, 2010, 01:58:54 PM
Quote from: Denn Forever on July 15, 2010, 01:35:08 PM
How can it get any worse?

We are not as good as we think we are so maybe we'll have to reach rock bottom before we improve.

Are we not at rock bottom now? Losing to fermanagh makes us the worst team in Ulster, and a 19 point beating only scoring 4 points..... surely we cant go any lower?  :-\
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Terry Coyle on July 15, 2010, 03:35:05 PM
I honestly think we are not rock bottom.. If we were rock bottom we would have been relegated from division 3 and not won one championship game this year. Lets face it, the Cork game was the worst draw we could have got. Its as if you could feel the whole county just sigh and say "Ah well, thats the end of the championship for another year!". Once the players went down a few points, away to Cork the belief simply wasnt there. Heads dropped and was no way back. Now the question of heads dropping is another story but this game is not a fair reflection od where we are at.

In my opinion, there are 3 elite teams in the country - Cork, Kerry and Tyrone. We happened to meet one of them and what happened, well lets just forget it. Are we worse than Louth, Sligo or Limerick?? Not a chance.

What the real worry is why cant we up our game for Fermanagh for example. The lads prepare as well as anyone else (and I mean) but what the difference is passion, belief and real leaders. Thats what happened against Wicklow - Jelly came on and lifted the team with some good scores and everyone else lifted their games, you could see the drive and belief then.

Whats needed now is to try and get that from the start of a game.. Too man lads afraid to play in case they make a mistake, f**k it, we need a corner back to put a midfielder on his arse, pass it on take a return pass and slot it between the posts. We need a centre back to come steaming through the middle and set up a score. We need the corner forward to make block on his own 45 after chasing his man for 70 yards. If we dont believe firstly then we are going nowhere.

We need a passionate manager to instill this in to the players and say just go for the juggler - if the goal is on, go for it. Terry Hyland is not that man. Now I dont know who is within the county but if we start thinking we are useless then we will play useless. From my own club if we thought we had no hope of beating Galls last year then we wouldnt have given them probably their toughest game of the year.

Lets get a man in who can put ashiver down your spine before you leave that dressing room. An Cabhán abu.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: The Konica on July 15, 2010, 04:21:00 PM
Quote from: Terry Coyle on July 15, 2010, 03:35:05 PM
I honestly think we are not rock bottom.. If we were rock bottom we would have been relegated from division 3 and not won one championship game this year. Lets face it, the Cork game was the worst draw we could have got. Its as if you could feel the whole county just sigh and say "Ah well, thats the end of the championship for another year!". Once the players went down a few points, away to Cork the belief simply wasnt there. Heads dropped and was no way back. Now the question of heads dropping is another story but this game is not a fair reflection od where we are at.

In my opinion, there are 3 elite teams in the country - Cork, Kerry and Tyrone. We happened to meet one of them and what happened, well lets just forget it. Are we worse than Louth, Sligo or Limerick?? Not a chance.

What the real worry is why cant we up our game for Fermanagh for example. The lads prepare as well as anyone else (and I mean) but what the difference is passion, belief and real leaders. Thats what happened against Wicklow - Jelly came on and lifted the team with some good scores and everyone else lifted their games, you could see the drive and belief then.

Whats needed now is to try and get that from the start of a game.. Too man lads afraid to play in case they make a mistake, f**k it, we need a corner back to put a midfielder on his arse, pass it on take a return pass and slot it between the posts. We need a centre back to come steaming through the middle and set up a score. We need the corner forward to make block on his own 45 after chasing his man for 70 yards. If we dont believe firstly then we are going nowhere.

We need a passionate manager to instill this in to the players and say just go for the juggler - if the goal is on, go for it. Terry Hyland is not that man. Now I dont know who is within the county but if we start thinking we are useless then we will play useless. From my own club if we thought we had no hope of beating Galls last year then we wouldnt have given them probably their toughest game of the year.

Lets get a man in who can put ashiver down your spine before you leave that dressing room. An Cabhán abu.

I agree with alot of what you said .... but ...

Sorry to burst your bubble, but if Cavan were playing either of those 3, I'd bet on them.

Cavan may or may not be 'at rock bottom', but they're so close it's not worth arguing the point. There are 8 better teams (currently) above them in Ulster. It's been many a year since a Cavan team were at that level.

You are right, Cork was a bad draw, but that's life - if you can't beat them at least compete with them. I don't see any excuse not to score 9 or 10 points against them regardless.

The thing most Cavan people, who are a proud honest people, hate most about the Cavan performance was the manner in which the heads dropped and they effectively rolled over. That's not the character of a winning team or an ambitious team.
The heartlessness was the most painful aspect of it.

You express concern over the Fermanagh game - but that's the same point as was evident against Cork - but far more. Lack of pride and drive. The only difference was that against Cork it was badly shown up for what it was.

Now, passion and drive alone will not win games. A cool, calculated manager is needed to prepare the team and the backroom team to in turn prepare the team of players. These are rare, but there are good managers out there.

You're last point is very valid. You need to believe in yourself - BUT you need to be honest with yourself. You can only believe in yourself if you can back it up, and only when you have something solid to believe in - and at the minute it would be foolish to think there is a set up there to believe in. 

The players also need someone they can believe in and this doesn't need to be a big name. Look at Ryan in Wexford as a perfect example. They need someone with charisma, honesty and intelligence who they can trust and want to play under him as they see he can help them achieve success.
   
Two things are needed.
- A root and branch review of the county football scene, with a comparison of the county set up with 4 other successful counties and identify the 6 common things that stand out as success factors. It might things like a strong school system, it might be a coach training program or a big focus on the key U16 age group ... etc etc. But boil it down to 6 things and get the best people in the county to manage them.
- A complete review of the Senior county team set up. This takes place BEFORE the new manager is appointed. Look at other counties and see what they have done, who they've gone for. I'd also speak to 4 or 5 of the senior panel to get their thoughts. Also identify the key things that a successful SFC team has in place. Only then look for a manager.

There is no point on sticking the knife in Tommy Carr any more, his reign is over, but the next man in better be a hell of man, or the next 3 years will start with a false dawn year 1, and 2 years of wishing and hoping.



... or maybe I haven't a clue! 
:P
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Terry Coyle on July 15, 2010, 05:44:40 PM
Firstly, I'm not in a bubble  :D

Point I was trying to make was that Louth, Fermanagh and Limerick are not better than us, but where they do better is that they can raise their game come Championship. We dont seem to have that, we appear to play at the same level of the league, no ruthlessness. In the Fermanagh game I cant remember any bust ups with players squaring up or a player showing his man he was no push over.

All what you said is basically agreeing with me. Bottom line is no real leaders in key positions.

Some good ideas there alright. What do you think of the number of clubs in Cavan? I think it is too many but I have no figures of what other counties numbers are so if anyone has that info then I would love to see it. Or even figures of the amount of clubs in Cavan back in the day when we were actually winning All-Irelands.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: The Konica on July 15, 2010, 06:07:02 PM
I agree, no bust ups, no aggression - no one caring! (Ok that's a bit harsh) but no passion.

Leaders are needed - but they never come first without a good leader on the sidelines that encourages and fosters the players he sees as leaders. Then after time you get leaders on the field. But it's a process. As an example McGeeney played for years before he developed leadership qualities.

Personally I think much of the problem resides at CB level.
None of them knows what it really takes to win at the level of an USFC anymore - forget about the old days - that's so long past. They haven't a clue, and haven't the ruthlessness needed to go out and get the right man and get the right people in place.

Let's be honest, who thought Carr would be any different this year? What signs were there? The CB should have gotten rid of him when they saw the direction things were going in (that's not being harsh as he's a lovely guy). Also if they were a really ruthless determined bunch they'd have approached a few people already and been getting someone lined up to take over already! Not honorable - but at the end of the year it's about wins versus losses isn't it?


Don't ask me who, but I'd go for someone like Aidan O'Rourke.

But whoever .. they have to have the following qualities ...
- Someone who has one an AI in the past 10 years - the way IC teams are ran now has changed so much, older than that is a different era. Also with a AI in the hip pocket it immediately gets the players respect to start.
- Someone who has some experience of managing or been in a recent IC management team
- Been with another Intercounty team, not just club team - the step-up from club to Intercounty is HUGE
- Someone with a good, Intelligent football brain, someone shrewd
- Have to be ambitious and someone that Cavan know they'll have a fight to keep after 2 years
- They'd have to be able to manage people well and have a good network to call on

Find the right person and just offer them whatever they want ala Banty and Grimley. Whatever it takes. 

And if they get the job they are given complete autonomy and let get on with the job.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: full moon on July 15, 2010, 07:34:19 PM
Quote from: Terry Coyle on July 15, 2010, 03:35:05 PM
In my opinion, there are 3 elite teams in the country - Cork, Kerry and Tyrone. We happened to meet one of them and what happened, well lets just forget it. Are we worse than Louth, Sligo or Limerick?? Not a chance.

This delusion has to stop. 2 of them came within an inch of being provincial champions and Sligo probably will be next week.

There is no way at all this Cavan team would have got to the provincial final in either Leinster, Connaught or Munster.

Expectations like these add fuel to the fire. The sooner we realise we are one of the worst teams in Ireland the better.

For me, League form matters nothing. Inter county is all about the Championship. How many players have we seen over the years like Mackay, play good in the league and continue to bottle it in the Championship when it matters?

And yes, before some smart arse comes in, I know Mackey "had a decent game against Fermanagh two years ago".
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dougal on July 15, 2010, 07:41:42 PM
Quote from: full moon on July 15, 2010, 07:34:19 PM
Quote from: Terry Coyle on July 15, 2010, 03:35:05 PM
In my opinion, there are 3 elite teams in the country - Cork, Kerry and Tyrone. We happened to meet one of them and what happened, well lets just forget it. Are we worse than Louth, Sligo or Limerick?? Not a chance.

This delusion has to stop. 2 of them came within an inch of being provincial champions and Sligo probably will be next week.

There is no way at all this Cavan team would have got to the provincial final in either Leinster, Connaught or Munster.

Expectations like these add fuel to the fire. The sooner we realise we are one of the worst teams in Ireland the better.

For me, League form matters nothing. Inter county is all about the Championship. How many players have we seen over the years like Mackay, play good in the league and continue to bottle it in the Championship when it matters?

And yes, before some smart arse comes in, I know Mackey "had a decent game against Fermanagh two years ago".


so you agree that the football ability is there,but just not the mentality??i think thats what were all getting at when we say were as good as other teams.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: full moon on July 15, 2010, 07:47:44 PM
Quote from: Dougal on July 15, 2010, 07:41:42 PM
Quote from: full moon on July 15, 2010, 07:34:19 PM
Quote from: Terry Coyle on July 15, 2010, 03:35:05 PM
In my opinion, there are 3 elite teams in the country - Cork, Kerry and Tyrone. We happened to meet one of them and what happened, well lets just forget it. Are we worse than Louth, Sligo or Limerick?? Not a chance.

This delusion has to stop. 2 of them came within an inch of being provincial champions and Sligo probably will be next week.

There is no way at all this Cavan team would have got to the provincial final in either Leinster, Connaught or Munster.

Expectations like these add fuel to the fire. The sooner we realise we are one of the worst teams in Ireland the better.

For me, League form matters nothing. Inter county is all about the Championship. How many players have we seen over the years like Mackay, play good in the league and continue to bottle it in the Championship when it matters?

And yes, before some smart arse comes in, I know Mackey "had a decent game against Fermanagh two years ago".


so you agree that the football ability is there,but just not the mentality??i think thats what were all getting at when we say were as good as other teams.

I don't think the mentality or ability is there. I just pay no attention to league form as we have seen time and time again the side to good enough in the league but come Championship time we are one of the worst sides in the country.

We beat practically the same Cork team two years ago in the league if I recall correctly or at least we really came close, says it all about the league for me.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on July 15, 2010, 09:23:16 PM
One thing that was absolutely clear in Cork last Saturday was that we did not have ONE leader on the pitch. Now at the simplest level you need 2/3 leaders on a team and the rest will go over the top with them. What's it due to, for the first time in god knows how many years we do not have one lad playing with us that has won a single thing wearing a Blue jersey. Lads that have won something at club underage levels in Ulster are generally not available for selection. It's fine saying Mchugh and Coleman were inspirational figures (they were) they were lucky enough to be able to build teams around a few lads that had won stuff along the way.

Some of Fitzpatricks comments in the Celt today were interesting, he suggested that there are a reasonable number of people on the panel that would not get near the Gaels side.................the biggest joke though was his assertion (probably correct) of disunity in the panel. Only a joke because we hear the same guff every year about how preparations are going well, everybody is knuckling down blah blah blah. You wonder sometimes if our local media would be doing us a favour by actually calling as they see it when they see it and not a week after we've been shamed (again) in the qualifiers. Cork are a super team, no doubt but make no mistake there are very few counties who would have surrendered so meekly as we did last week. Some of the Cork supporters were utterly shocked by what they saw.

On that depressing not I'll take a break
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Terry Coyle on July 15, 2010, 11:33:25 PM
Full moon you reckon we dont have the ability to beat a Louth or Sligo team in championship. Could not disagree more with you. We have the ability to beat them teams, as well as Limerick, and look what they have done. What we need is to be able to up it once to another level of intensity once we hit Championship then we can compete and take these teams.

I think its worth pointing out here as well the level of commitment the panel have given over the last 7-9 months. Sacrificing weekends, weeknights for training/games. It can be easy for us talk behing a keyboard or on a pub stool but these lads have put the hard yards in. They will be back, but hopefully just with a better setup that can get the most out of them and help us reach our potential. We can make a second division side / last 12 champ with the right people there and then we can work from there.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: The Konica on July 16, 2010, 07:44:14 AM
Quote from: full moon on July 15, 2010, 07:47:44 PM
Quote from: Dougal on July 15, 2010, 07:41:42 PM
Quote from: full moon on July 15, 2010, 07:34:19 PM
Quote from: Terry Coyle on July 15, 2010, 03:35:05 PM
In my opinion, there are 3 elite teams in the country - Cork, Kerry and Tyrone. We happened to meet one of them and what happened, well lets just forget it. Are we worse than Louth, Sligo or Limerick?? Not a chance.

This delusion has to stop. 2 of them came within an inch of being provincial champions and Sligo probably will be next week.

There is no way at all this Cavan team would have got to the provincial final in either Leinster, Connaught or Munster.

Expectations like these add fuel to the fire. The sooner we realise we are one of the worst teams in Ireland the better.

For me, League form matters nothing. Inter county is all about the Championship. How many players have we seen over the years like Mackay, play good in the league and continue to bottle it in the Championship when it matters?

And yes, before some smart arse comes in, I know Mackey "had a decent game against Fermanagh two years ago".


so you agree that the football ability is there,but just not the mentality??i think thats what were all getting at when we say were as good as other teams.

I don't think the mentality or ability is there. I just pay no attention to league form as we have seen time and time again the side to good enough in the league but come Championship time we are one of the worst sides in the country.

We beat practically the same Cork team two years ago in the league if I recall correctly or at least we really came close, says it all about the league for me.

Agree
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: The Konica on July 16, 2010, 07:53:23 AM
Quote from: Terry Coyle on July 15, 2010, 11:33:25 PM
Full moon you reckon we dont have the ability to beat a Louth or Sligo team in championship. Could not disagree more with you. We have the ability to beat them teams, as well as Limerick, and look what they have done. What we need is to be able to up it once to another level of intensity once we hit Championship then we can compete and take these teams.

I think its worth pointing out here as well the level of commitment the panel have given over the last 7-9 months. Sacrificing weekends, weeknights for training/games. It can be easy for us talk behing a keyboard or on a pub stool but these lads have put the hard yards in. They will be back, but hopefully just with a better setup that can get the most out of them and help us reach our potential. We can make a second division side / last 12 champ with the right people there and then we can work from there.

This is where we differ ... ability.

The only other more useless word used in sport is the word 'potential'.
All that matters is championship performance and based on championship games Cavan would get hammered by Sligo.
Ability. 'I have the ability to pull Jessica Alba, but I just didn't'. You could say every county have the 'ability', 'potential', call it what you will. Pubs, coffee houses and Junior B teams are full of 'ability'.

You have to ask though about the training also. What were they doing for 8 months that left them in such a state? How well were they prepared? Was that whole fight night thing a waste of time? I feel sorry for the genuine guy who sacrificed his time over the winter to end the year like that. But there's questions over that whole thing too.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Terry Coyle on July 16, 2010, 11:21:42 AM
Quote from: The Konica on July 16, 2010, 07:53:23 AM
Quote from: Terry Coyle on July 15, 2010, 11:33:25 PM
Full moon you reckon we dont have the ability to beat a Louth or Sligo team in championship. Could not disagree more with you. We have the ability to beat them teams, as well as Limerick, and look what they have done. What we need is to be able to up it once to another level of intensity once we hit Championship then we can compete and take these teams.

I think its worth pointing out here as well the level of commitment the panel have given over the last 7-9 months. Sacrificing weekends, weeknights for training/games. It can be easy for us talk behing a keyboard or on a pub stool but these lads have put the hard yards in. They will be back, but hopefully just with a better setup that can get the most out of them and help us reach our potential. We can make a second division side / last 12 champ with the right people there and then we can work from there.

This is where we differ ... ability.

The only other more useless word used in sport is the word 'potential'.
All that matters is championship performance and based on championship games Cavan would get hammered by Sligo.
Ability. 'I have the ability to pull Jessica Alba, but I just didn't'. You could say every county have the 'ability', 'potential', call it what you will. Pubs, coffee houses and Junior B teams are full of 'ability'.

You have to ask though about the training also. What were they doing for 8 months that left them in such a state? How well were they prepared? Was that whole fight night thing a waste of time? I feel sorry for the genuine guy who sacrificed his time over the winter to end the year like that. But there's questions over that whole thing too.

Jesus Christ if we (or more importantly the players) dont believe we can compete with these teams then we are doomed.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: The Konica on July 16, 2010, 12:38:49 PM
Quote from: Terry Coyle on July 16, 2010, 11:21:42 AM
Quote from: The Konica on July 16, 2010, 07:53:23 AM
Quote from: Terry Coyle on July 15, 2010, 11:33:25 PM
Full moon you reckon we dont have the ability to beat a Louth or Sligo team in championship. Could not disagree more with you. We have the ability to beat them teams, as well as Limerick, and look what they have done. What we need is to be able to up it once to another level of intensity once we hit Championship then we can compete and take these teams.

I think its worth pointing out here as well the level of commitment the panel have given over the last 7-9 months. Sacrificing weekends, weeknights for training/games. It can be easy for us talk behing a keyboard or on a pub stool but these lads have put the hard yards in. They will be back, but hopefully just with a better setup that can get the most out of them and help us reach our potential. We can make a second division side / last 12 champ with the right people there and then we can work from there.

This is where we differ ... ability.

The only other more useless word used in sport is the word 'potential'.
All that matters is championship performance and based on championship games Cavan would get hammered by Sligo.
Ability. 'I have the ability to pull Jessica Alba, but I just didn't'. You could say every county have the 'ability', 'potential', call it what you will. Pubs, coffee houses and Junior B teams are full of 'ability'.

You have to ask though about the training also. What were they doing for 8 months that left them in such a state? How well were they prepared? Was that whole fight night thing a waste of time? I feel sorry for the genuine guy who sacrificed his time over the winter to end the year like that. But there's questions over that whole thing too.

Jesus Christ if we (or more importantly the players) dont believe we can compete with these teams then we are doomed.
:D
I think you've just described the situation.

On the other hand if Cavan aren't realistic they'll continue to ignore how bad the situation really is.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on July 16, 2010, 07:46:33 PM
People are knocking Hyland a bit too easy here. Ok, I know the man isn't a tactical genius or his warm up drills down have the new wave of sports experts drooling but you know football is a simple enough game. I get the feeling that players are waiting for some sort of Messiah to come along and tell them if you warm up like this and stretch like that you will win the all ireland. Professional set-ups don't win matches. Effort, hunger, pride, belief and motivation are the prime ingrediants. Lads have to understand they can't look to some fitness guru to make them win, it needs to come from themselves. I would be looking for a man that motivates. Micko is that type of guy but not sure if he would fit the bill. I don't know what Hylands motivational skills are but there must be something about him that gets results?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on July 17, 2010, 02:40:27 PM
I really think Hyland would be at best a sidewards if not backwards step myles.

If you examine the problems with the outgoing setup, an inability to get all club players pulling together, an apparent failure to put a professional setup in place, and a distinct lack of quick-thinking nouse on the sideline during games are probably the main ones. I don't see Hyland addressing those, rather, he'll possibly entrench them further (in my opinion).

Perhaps if he was accompanied by someone, like Keogan was with Grimley, it would make more sense, but even at that I'd be very surprised to see someone like Hyland make a success of the Cavan job. He looks like the soft option, just because he's there sort of thing, it'd be a move that really lacks inspiration and ambition as far as I can see and although I'd naturally hope to be very wrong, it'd just continue the culture of ill-considered appointments and resulting mediocrity on the pitch.

Those are just the surface problems. Deeper lying is this notion that club players in the county seem to have developed - partly through lack of professionalism behind county manager appointments and partly through over inflated estimations of their own worth - that the county jersey doesn't choose them, they choose it. It's back to front, there's no real pride in the jersey and the tail is wagging the dog in effect - because the dog has lost his bite. The Cork result, the margin of defeat, the sheer gutlessness of it, will only enshrine the notion that the county jersey is not the honour it should be in intercounty terms but something more akin to the FCA in terms of the Defence Forces. A bit of a joke and a slight embarrassment, but the gear is good. The next managerial appointment is crucial in arresting this slide into the abyss.

Look, I don't know who the right man would be, I think we need to take a calculated punt like Wexford and Sligo did and show that we have actually thought about and analysed what the problems are before putting someone in place to address them. All we're doing otherwise is trying to choose a man to fix problems when we haven't sat down and pinpointed what the problems are in the first place - it's like chucking mud at a wall and hoping to Jesus some of it sticks.

But in closing, to paraphrase a wiser man than me, if Terry Hyland is the answer, it must be a very peculiar question.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on July 17, 2010, 03:55:24 PM
Quote from Cavanmaniac


.....I think we need to take a calculated punt like Wexford and Sligo..

Who would you suggest?  I ask because I have no idea of any potential candidates?  Is Dermot McCabe or Anthony Forde interested?  I have heard of no one who has expressed an interest. 

Who has managed Cavan Gaels in the last few years?  Maybe approach him.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on July 17, 2010, 05:30:14 PM
Good to see his Breffni experience didn't prevent Tommy Carr from getting straight back into "work" with the GAA - he is involved in the commentary on RTÉ radion from Croker today!!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on July 17, 2010, 06:04:46 PM
Who knows DF? Maybe some of the lads here know of people in their clubs that have management potential.

Who has been in charge of recent McRory winning sides in Ulster colleges football, have lads like Mattie McGleenan any pedigree or is there any young hungry manager making a name for himself at those slightly lower levels, under the radar?

What about at Sigerson level, anyone know of anyone cutting a dash there? And maybe getting in the Gaels manager might not be such a bad idea.

I don't have the answers either I guess, but then again, I'm a lad tapping his opinion on to the internet and it's the county board that are suposed to take the lead in the matter. Maybe Ciaran Brady might be worth a go - local passion, some degree of experience, has a few medals - either way, we have to take a risk and build from the bottom up. Hyland would be a lazy, thoughtless option in my opinion



Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: The Konica on July 17, 2010, 06:07:55 PM
I'll throw his name out there again ... Aidan O'Rourke
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on July 17, 2010, 06:11:25 PM
Quote from: The Konica on July 17, 2010, 06:07:55 PM
I'll throw his name out there again ... Aidan O'Rourke

Is he involved with Kildare this year??
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: The Konica on July 17, 2010, 06:14:30 PM
Quote from: Celt_Man on July 17, 2010, 06:11:25 PM
Quote from: The Konica on July 17, 2010, 06:07:55 PM
I'll throw his name out there again ... Aidan O'Rourke

Is he involved with Kildare this year??
Yes, replaced Grimley, was with Sigerson for a few years previously.

Recent AI winner, good pedigree, hungry to do well in his first job, intelligent and good football brain.

You'll hear a lot worse suggestions mentioned before the manager is picked!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on July 17, 2010, 08:25:10 PM
If what you say about him is true Konica, I think that's a suggestion that fits the bill.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on July 17, 2010, 08:43:53 PM
On this occasion I have to say I am in favour of a Cavan man doing the job. The chances of getting a good outside man are low given that anyone with ambition looking at our outfit must realise they would be taking a huge gamble with their reputation. The risk is you get some boyo that just wants the money and doesn't give a shit. I think a Cavan man would at least have the desire, a real genuine desire, to succeed. So who is there within the county...

Ciaran Brady
Terry Hyland
Mickey Graham
are the obvious ones but there must be some others worth considering

I'm thinking of guys with some measure of playing experience, some amount of managerial experience - someone out there in the county must be worth a punt.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on July 17, 2010, 10:52:16 PM
Quote from: Celt_Man on July 17, 2010, 05:30:14 PM
Good to see his Breffni experience didn't prevent Tommy Carr from getting straight back into "work" with the GAA - he is involved in the commentary on RTÉ radion from Croker today!!


there I was thinking I was the only man angry that this bloody expert banging on about the failures of players and sidenline mentors or Dublin, Armagh etc. etc. Tommy, seems to me Cavan was no more than an income source to your less than proven ability
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: whats my name on July 18, 2010, 01:53:33 AM
what about jim mcguiness from what i have seen of the donegal under 21's they wernt lacking in drive or motivation they had a set game plan and stuck to it he might be inline for the donegal job but if he doesnt get it he would be worth a go in my opinion.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tierworker blue on July 18, 2010, 06:56:29 AM
Quote from: Celt_Man on July 17, 2010, 05:30:14 PM
Good to see his Breffni experience didn't prevent Tommy Carr from getting straight back into "work" with the GAA - he is involved in the commentary on RTÉ radion from Croker today!!

He was largin' it up on the wireless the day after the Cork match. He sounded a lot chirpier than I felt.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: The Konica on July 18, 2010, 08:08:55 AM
Quote from: whats my name on July 18, 2010, 01:53:33 AM
what about jim mcguiness from what i have seen of the donegal under 21's they wernt lacking in drive or motivation they had a set game plan and stuck to it he might be inline for the donegal job but if he doesnt get it he would be worth a go in my opinion.

Good suggestion too.
It does look like he might end up taking Donegal, well probably early to tell that, but he's the front runner.
I don't know much about his management style, but you're right. Based on the U21's he'd not be a bad bet.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: The Konica on July 18, 2010, 08:11:13 AM
Quote from: cavanmaniac on July 17, 2010, 08:25:10 PM
If what you say about him is true Konica, I think that's a suggestion that fits the bill.

I'm not his agent or anything - though it probably sounds like it!!!
I am just giving him as an example of someone or the type of person Cavan should be aiming for.

Of course, it does matter who it would be if they were an outsider, as selectors you'd have one or two Cavan natives, like Brady or McCabe who would know the lie of the land and yet have respect from the players. 
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: The Konica on July 18, 2010, 08:29:58 AM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on July 17, 2010, 08:43:53 PM
On this occasion I have to say I am in favour of a Cavan man doing the job. The chances of getting a good outside man are low given that anyone with ambition looking at our outfit must realise they would be taking a huge gamble with their reputation. The risk is you get some boyo that just wants the money and doesn't give a shit. I think a Cavan man would at least have the desire, a real genuine desire, to succeed. So who is there within the county...

Ciaran Brady
Terry Hyland
Mickey Graham
are the obvious ones but there must be some others worth considering

I'm thinking of guys with some measure of playing experience, some amount of managerial experience - someone out there in the county must be worth a punt.

Myles I agree with where you're coming from.
My only point about going with an internal appointment is IMO it takes someone who has been there and done it at senior intercounty level to bring the team to that stage. If you're only experience is as a club manager or selector with a poor county how can you know what it takes to win (not just compete) at Intercounty?

In other words if you've never been with a successful intercounty team, or management - how do you know or would you know what it takes to reach that level or understand the areas Cavan are falling down in?
The IC scene has changed so much on a whole load of levels and areas that unless you've been involved in the past 10 years you've no comprehension of the level it is now at.

I think you have VERY valid points about Cavan being used or viewed as a 'cash cow', but I think that's something you need to manage or prevent, and partly done by picking the manager with the best character.

You're other point about Cavan people having a more or better love for the jersey or desire to win more is also valid, but I'd hope that whoever would take the job on would be honest enough and certainly the selectors if they were from Cavan they'd make sure that was the case. Also, if you brought in a good manager for 2, 3 years and they were succesful, you'd expect one of the selectors would be groomed to take over then.

Where as look at the situation now. Who is there to take over from TC? Who were selectors with him that could take the reigns? If there is someone what have they learned that has been worthwhile?

I'm not saying your wrong. I'm just posting a counter argument.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Swadman on July 18, 2010, 12:01:18 PM
Lots of posts about who the new manager should be. Local or outsider? Proven record or new talent?
YES these are important questions but we could get Gus Hiddink and his entire professional back room staff and not see any improvement for a couple of years. "Sorry Gus, you can't buy in players, you have to take them from the Cavan Accademy. I'm afraid this is what you have to pick from" After year 1 there will be posts here and on the H.S, that Gus has got to go, sure he's not even a Cavan man. After year 2 (despite securing Div 2 status) the C.B. sacks Gus but wishes him all the best in his new career as a GAA pundit on RTE.
I'm joking of course, Gus would be back on the plane 5 mins after finding out that he could only use the players within the county . THE QUALITY IS NOT THERE.   
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on July 18, 2010, 12:50:45 PM
Quote from: Swadman on July 18, 2010, 12:01:18 PM
Lots of posts about who the new manager should be. Local or outsider? Proven record or new talent?
YES these are important questions but we could get Gus Hiddink and his entire professional back room staff and not see any improvement for a couple of years. "Sorry Gus, you can't buy in players, you have to take them from the Cavan Accademy. I'm afraid this is what you have to pick from" After year 1 there will be posts here and on the H.S, that Gus has got to go, sure he's not even a Cavan man. After year 2 (despite securing Div 2 status) the C.B. sacks Gus but wishes him all the best in his new career as a GAA pundit on RTE.
I'm joking of course, Gus would be back on the plane 5 mins after finding out that he could only use the players within the county . THE QUALITY IS NOT THERE.   

Do you think that the players we have on our panel this year were properly motivated and playing at the top of their own game? I don't. Thats what a manager is for and that is where our most recent manager failed.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: beer baron on July 18, 2010, 01:13:14 PM
Quote from: Swadman on July 18, 2010, 12:01:18 PM
Lots of posts about who the new manager should be. Local or outsider? Proven record or new talent?
YES these are important questions but we could get Gus Hiddink and his entire professional back room staff and not see any improvement for a couple of years. "Sorry Gus, you can't buy in players, you have to take them from the Cavan Accademy. I'm afraid this is what you have to pick from" After year 1 there will be posts here and on the H.S, that Gus has got to go, sure he's not even a Cavan man. After year 2 (despite securing Div 2 status) the C.B. sacks Gus but wishes him all the best in his new career as a GAA pundit on RTE.
I'm joking of course, Gus would be back on the plane 5 mins after finding out that he could only use the players within the county . THE QUALITY IS NOT THERE.   
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This i find a ridiculous statement,confidence breathes confidence and the more confidence players get the better they perform.The likes of Louth,Sligo and Roscommon at the start of this season i'd say the majority of people woyld've said the quality is not there but they've done alright for themselves and have uncovered a few gems along the way,i know i for one knew little of david kelly other than his kerry performance and penaly miss last year and now he's one of the most feared corner forwards around!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: The Konica on July 18, 2010, 02:30:49 PM
Quote from: beer baron on July 18, 2010, 01:13:14 PM
Quote from: Swadman on July 18, 2010, 12:01:18 PM
Lots of posts about who the new manager should be. Local or outsider? Proven record or new talent?
YES these are important questions but we could get Gus Hiddink and his entire professional back room staff and not see any improvement for a couple of years. "Sorry Gus, you can't buy in players, you have to take them from the Cavan Accademy. I'm afraid this is what you have to pick from" After year 1 there will be posts here and on the H.S, that Gus has got to go, sure he's not even a Cavan man. After year 2 (despite securing Div 2 status) the C.B. sacks Gus but wishes him all the best in his new career as a GAA pundit on RTE.
I'm joking of course, Gus would be back on the plane 5 mins after finding out that he could only use the players within the county . THE QUALITY IS NOT THERE.   
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This i find a ridiculous statement,confidence breathes confidence and the more confidence players get the better they perform.The likes of Louth,Sligo and Roscommon at the start of this season i'd say the majority of people woyld've said the quality is not there but they've done alright for themselves and have uncovered a few gems along the way,i know i for one knew little of david kelly other than his kerry performance and penaly miss last year and now he's one of the most feared corner forwards around!

Great post (and proper attitude too).
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: The Konica on July 18, 2010, 05:03:47 PM
Quote from: put-it-up on July 18, 2010, 04:52:45 PM
One other point. It is mid-July and no cavan player has kicked a championship ball yet. i think that is bollix and it certainly doesn't help county players or others trying to force there way onto the panel. Sharpness and that competitive in my opininon come from constantly playing - not training over and over again playing challenge matches with the county.

I spoke with Sean Cavanagh two weeks ago and he was looking forward to playing for club in the championship that weekend. Today he won a Ulster final. If playing for his club is ok in Tyrone then it should be ok here.

Name dropper!
;D

(Agree with the rest of it tho!)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: The Konica on July 18, 2010, 05:51:55 PM
Quote from: put-it-up on July 18, 2010, 05:50:24 PM
Quote from: The Konica on July 18, 2010, 05:03:47 PM
Quote from: put-it-up on July 18, 2010, 04:52:45 PM
One other point. It is mid-July and no cavan player has kicked a championship ball yet. i think that is bollix and it certainly doesn't help county players or others trying to force there way onto the panel. Sharpness and that competitive in my opininon come from constantly playing - not training over and over again playing challenge matches with the county.

I spoke with Sean Cavanagh two weeks ago and he was looking forward to playing for club in the championship that weekend. Today he won a Ulster final. If playing for his club is ok in Tyrone then it should be ok here.

Name dropper!
;D

(Agree with the rest of it tho!)

Sorry, I was talking to this big tall lad from Tyrone who is a decent footballer. Has a hot wife. That sound better ;D

Perhaps not to Sean Cavanagh!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: The Konica on July 18, 2010, 05:55:54 PM
Quote from: put-it-up on July 18, 2010, 04:11:32 PM
Glad to see some heated debate going on here lads. Been recovering from an op over the last few days so have had plenty of time for thinking ;D

My gut feeling say's someone like Ciaran Brady could be our man but then again, I have never had a conversation with him or worked under him so I am only guessing. I think the only people that can fairly judge candidates are the one who do the interviewing process but I just hope they identify what they need beforehand and then try to find the man that fits the most boxes. Whatever boxes he doesn't tick then you would hope a backroom team could be found that would be strong in areas the manager is lacking.

TC was found out big time and I honestly don't think he cared about us by the end of his reign. He drove down to Cork by himself in his Car so he knew what was coming. However the one defence I will give him, and in particular for his first year, his backroom team was quite poor and they certainly didnt bring to the table what Carr lacked.

O'Rourke is an interesting proposition as is Canavan but again i reiterate good players dont make good managers. However I know the former done well at Sigreson level while I am pretty sure Canavan has led a school to success in Ulster. Correct me if I am wrong but McElkennon and Harte started out at that level?? I think if we were going for a figure like that I woudl prefer if he had played in Ulster in recent years and is familiar with the the province rather than a novice coming in from Kildare or somewhere like that! Then again, not having the traditional respect for other Ulster teams might be a positive - I don't know.

If i was picking a part if the new management team, Anthony Forde woudl be a selector and Paul McCorry would be the trainer.

Anyway I disagree with peoplee saying we have no talent. That is bullshit. We have struggled to perform consistently though and deserve to be considered one of the worst teams in the country at present. However, the right manager to introduce a fresh mental attitude and we would not be long climbing the ladder IF the players bought into it.

That's an odd decision! You'd think he'd get someone else to drive the car if it had to go down and he'd go with the team?
Of course they were never going to win anyway.

The backroom point is very valid - especially when you look at Monaghan today.
Banty had two men who were former Cavan managers (albeit very unsuccessful) alongside him - that's a hell of a brains trust to be able to draw on!
Who had Carr?
 
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: The Konica on July 18, 2010, 06:08:25 PM
So was it just Carr and Lynch this year? or was it Carr, Lynch, Reilly and Hyland?


I think Cavan need to follow the Monaghan model exactly to get things rolling again!
Bad day today, but they're light years ahead of Cavan!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: The Konica on July 18, 2010, 06:18:19 PM
That would work, though McEniff is with Louth this year. You'd probably have to pay well for that kind of expertise too.

Still need a good Main Man though!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: The Konica on July 18, 2010, 06:20:16 PM
Actually, Peter McDonnell former Armagh manager would be a good man for the job.

He had a rough outing with Armagh, but I think he was dealt a raw deal there and would be keen to have a good run. Decent man by all accounts too.

There's also John Rafferty who was with Armagh previously too, along with Kernan.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: beer baron on July 18, 2010, 06:28:20 PM
Quote from: put-it-up on July 18, 2010, 04:11:32 PM
Glad to see some heated debate going on here lads. Been recovering from an op over the last few days so have had plenty of time for thinking ;D

My gut feeling say's someone like Ciaran Brady could be our man but then again, I have never had a conversation with him or worked under him so I am only guessing. I think the only people that can fairly judge candidates are the one who do the interviewing process but I just hope they identify what they need beforehand and then try to find the man that fits the most boxes. Whatever boxes he doesn't tick then you would hope a backroom team could be found that would be strong in areas the manager is lacking.

TC was found out big time and I honestly don't think he cared about us by the end of his reign. He drove down to Cork by himself in his Car so he knew what was coming. However the one defence I will give him, and in particular for his first year, his backroom team was quite poor and they certainly didnt bring to the table what Carr lacked.

O'Rourke is an interesting proposition as is Canavan but again i reiterate good players dont make good managers. However I know the former done well at Sigreson level while I am pretty sure Canavan has led a school to success in Ulster. Correct me if I am wrong but McElkennon and Harte started out at that level?? I think if we were going for a figure like that I woudl prefer if he had played in Ulster in recent years and is familiar with the the province rather than a novice coming in from Kildare or somewhere like that! Then again, not having the traditional respect for other Ulster teams might be a positive - I don't know.

If i was picking a part if the new management team, Anthony Forde woudl be a selector and Paul McCorry would be the trainer.

Anyway I disagree with peoplee saying we have no talent. That is bullshit. We have struggled to perform consistently though and deserve to be considered one of the worst teams in the country at present. However, the right manager to introduce a fresh mental attitude and we would not be long climbing the ladder IF the players bought into it.

Yeah i think you're right about Canavan,i seem to remember him on the sideline anyway for an Ulster final virginia school were involved in and were beaten,the likes of Conor smith were on that team.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dougal on July 18, 2010, 06:36:47 PM
canavan might be fit to get us out of the mess were in,well put us on the right track in 2 or 3 years at least.but would he take the job?

id definately like to see someone like grimley or mceniff come in to help out behind the scenes.

PIU,i dont buy this bullshit of "we dont have the players",either.theres no doubt in my mind that we have the players to be better than we currently are,how much better,i dont know.

konica,i think it was you that said you have the ability to pull jesica alba.the way i look at ability is,if you've done it before,you can do it again.so unless i you've pulled someone as goodlooking as J.A. then id say you dont have the ability.very few,if any of the county team,played aswell in the championship this year,as they have done on occasions in the past.we never see 8 or 10 players playing as well as they can in the same game.this year it was rare to see 2 players playing well.whether the mentality can be changed,i dont know,but i think mentality is our biggest problem.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: The Konica on July 18, 2010, 06:58:03 PM
Whoa ... hang on. Let's stop the Canavan talk, I'd almost bet my life he'll not take another county other than Tyrone.
He's over Errigal Ciaran at the minute too I think, but I don't see him taking Cavan if you offered sun moon and stars.
Sorry, but don't see it happening.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: The Konica on July 18, 2010, 07:04:48 PM
Quote from: Dougal on July 18, 2010, 06:36:47 PM
canavan might be fit to get us out of the mess were in,well put us on the right track in 2 or 3 years at least.but would he take the job?

id definately like to see someone like grimley or mceniff come in to help out behind the scenes.

PIU,i dont buy this bullshit of "we dont have the players",either.theres no doubt in my mind that we have the players to be better than we currently are,how much better,i dont know.

konica,i think it was you that said you have the ability to pull jesica alba.the way i look at ability is,if you've done it before,you can do it again.so unless i you've pulled someone as goodlooking as J.A. then id say you dont have the ability.very few,if any of the county team,played aswell in the championship this year,as they have done on occasions in the past.we never see 8 or 10 players playing as well as they can in the same game.this year it was rare to see 2 players playing well.whether the mentality can be changed,i dont know,but i think mentality is our biggest problem.

There is enough there in Cavan to do something with - but it would take 3 years minimum.
You need a man to come in with a 3 year plan and let him get on with it.

Players didn't perform because they didn't believe in the Manager.
I now see why they scored nothing against Cork - they saw manager had no faith driving down himself ready for a fast get away!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on July 18, 2010, 07:29:31 PM
Its all been said before- the 64 million dollar question. What is wrong with Cavan football.
Since I'v first started posting on here I'm sure I have mentioned in detail what I feel is wrong and in some cases what needs to be done.
But in brief I feel the following will have to happen before Cavan can be successful at any level on a consistent basis.

- Standard of coaches in every club has to improve.
It is slowly improving judging by the number of coaches who took Foundation and Level One courses this year( as CeltMan and myself can testify to)
But we are still a long way of Tyrone and even Monaghan. Ordinary GAA people in Cavan have to quit looking round them and expecting somebody else to do the work with the future of the GAA in Cavan. Everybody will have to make sacrifices, not just the 24 who travelled down to Cork.

-More resources have to be put into the Primary schools in terms of coaching and games development. We all know this has also improved but I don't think it is enough.

-Cavan GAA needs to market itself alot better
I know too well from working with my own clubs underage set-up, clubs are not attracting the right talent near as much as they used to. Soccer and Rugby are a massive threat to the future of the GAA in this county. For far too long Gaelic football has had a monopoly on 75% of young kids choosing sport in Cavan. Well those days are over and the sooner everybody realises it the better.

-Cavan Senior team need a Senior manager who will get everybody wanting to play and die for the blue jersey. When we get that man we need him to treat everybody as equal and if players are not happy with that then show them the door. He will have to be totally his own man and make sure that he is the only ego involved in the set-up.
Cavan is too small of a county in terms of population and resources for us to have at least 6 or 7 of the best players in the county NOT playing for us.

-There needs to be more educating and mentoring of young players
from U-16 up to U-21 level to try and keep lads on the straight and narrow,not just in terms of GAA but in life in general. This county has seen far too many outstanding prospects go down the other road.
Something I noticed that Cavan Gaels have tried at the moment is designating U-8 and U-10 players with a mentor from the club Minor team. Why not do the same with our best talent coming through at U-16 or Minor level. Whether its former or current players I don't know but somebody that these young lads can look up to and can call upon when they need advice etc.

-The Junior team should be given proper attention for at least a few months and not just from 2 weeks before the first game. Some people may think the Leinster competition is sponsored by Disney but it is giving lads an opportunity to play at a higher level than club and can be a stepping stone for players towards Inter-County football.

-Scouting at all levels needs to be done
We need to put in place a proper scouting system whereby all clubs and divisions are covered on a regular basis. Whether its selectors or the manager or a group of 10 or 12 people who know a footballer I don't know, but the previous management team did not cover enough club games and that has to change.
The same should be done for our U-21 and Minor teams.

Communication and Co-operation between the County Board and clubs has to improve
The County Board, Minor Board and Bord Peil na nOg should be in place as a facilitator for clubs to help them and improve them when possible. That in no way means bending over backwards so clubs can dictate to the Board but everybody should be singing of the same hymn sheet, not the other way around.

The standard of refereeing in Cavan has to improve
This doesn't need any explanation. There are men still refereeing at Senior level in this county who should have been told nicely where to go 15 years ago.

AND FINALLY
Send a bus of about 25 of the Best ladies footballer in this county down to Kerry around the 3rd Sunday in September to mingle with the Donaghys and the Coopers and the O Se's and insist they don't come back until they are all pregnant
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on July 18, 2010, 07:41:52 PM
Quote from: boojangles on July 18, 2010, 07:29:31 PM
Its all been said before- the 64 million dollar question. What is wrong with Cavan football.
Since I'v first started posting on here I'm sure I have mentioned in detail what I feel is wrong and in some cases what needs to be done.
But in brief I feel the following will have to happen before Cavan can be successful at any level on a consistent basis.

- Standard of coaches in every club has to improve.
It is slowly improving judging by the number of coaches who took Foundation and Level One courses this year( as CeltMan and myself can testify to)
But we are still a long way of Tyrone and even Monaghan. Ordinary GAA people in Cavan have to quit looking round them and expecting somebody else to do the work with the future of the GAA in Cavan. Everybody will have to make sacrifices, not just the 24 who travelled down to Cork.

-More resources have to be put into the Primary schools in terms of coaching and games development. We all know this has also improved but I don't think it is enough.

-Cavan GAA needs to market itself alot better
I know too well from working with my own clubs underage set-up, clubs are not attracting the right talent near as much as they used to. Soccer and Rugby are a massive threat to the future of the GAA in this county. For far too long Gaelic football has had a monopoly on 75% of young kids choosing sport in Cavan. Well those days are over and the sooner everybody realises it the better.

-Cavan Senior team need a Senior manager who will get everybody wanting to play and die for the blue jersey. When we get that man we need him to treat everybody as equal and if players are not happy with that then show them the door. He will have to be totally his own man and make sure that he is the only ego involved in the set-up.
Cavan is too small of a county in terms of population and resources for us to have at least 6 or 7 of the best players in the county NOT playing for us.

-There needs to be more educating and mentoring of young players
from U-16 up to U-21 level to try and keep lads on the straight and narrow,not just in terms of GAA but in life in general. This county has seen far too many outstanding prospects go down the other road.
Something I noticed that Cavan Gaels have tried at the moment is designating U-8 and U-10 players with a mentor from the club Minor team. Why not do the same with our best talent coming through at U-16 or Minor level. Whether its former or current players I don't know but somebody that these young lads can look up to and can call upon when they need advice etc.

-The Junior team should be given proper attention for at least a few months and not just from 2 weeks before the first game. Some people may think the Leinster competition is sponsored by Disney but it is giving lads an opportunity to play at a higher level than club and can be a stepping stone for players towards Inter-County football.

-Scouting at all levels needs to be done
We need to put in place a proper scouting system whereby all clubs and divisions are covered on a regular basis. Whether its selectors or the manager or a group of 10 or 12 people who know a footballer I don't know, but the previous management team did not cover enough club games and that has to change.
The same should be done for our U-21 and Minor teams.

Communication and Co-operation between the County Board and clubs has to improve
The County Board, Minor Board and Bord Peil na nOg should be in place as a facilitator for clubs to help them and improve them when possible. That in no way means bending over backwards so clubs can dictate to the Board but everybody should be singing of the same hymn sheet, not the other way around.

The standard of refereeing in Cavan has to improve
This doesn't need any explanation. There are men still refereeing at Senior level in this county who should have been told nicely where to go 15 years ago.

AND FINALLY
Send a bus of about 25 of the Best ladies footballer in this county down to Kerry around the 3rd Sunday in September to mingle with the Donaghys and the Coopers and the O Se's and insist they don't come back until they are all pregnant
I haven't post my thoughts on the whole thing because I haven't the heart to air all my feelings just yet but Boojangles that was some post!! Agree with everything in there especially the last point!!  ;D ;D
Also if any of those ladies miss that bus send them over my way - footballing ability mightn't be great but at least they would enjoy themselves and the young fellas would be able to talk a good game!!! ;D ;D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on July 18, 2010, 08:12:30 PM
Ditto Celt Man. That trip to Cork took a lot out of me with respect to the county team. Boojangles, are you sure that was the brief version? :D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on July 18, 2010, 09:11:09 PM
Quote from: Lawrence of Knockbride on July 18, 2010, 08:12:30 PM
Ditto Celt Man. That trip to Cork took a lot out of me with respect to the county team. Boojangles, are you sure that was the brief version? :D

Believe me Lawrence, I could have spent a day typing.Cavan football is a very complex thing.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on July 18, 2010, 09:38:32 PM
Fair play BooJ! Jesus I thought it was going to turn into a biography for a minute ;D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Swadman on July 19, 2010, 12:23:57 PM
QuoteAND FINALLY
Send a bus of about 25 of the Best ladies footballer in this county down to Kerry around the 3rd Sunday in September to mingle with the Donaghys and the Coopers and the O Se's and insist they don't come back until they are all pregnant
Drastic measures Bo ........ but maybe we would get some quality BIG fellas as a result. We would still have to wait 20 years and I cant's wait that long.
Good points on underage/minor. We have got to bend over backwards to keep them interested and motivated.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Swadman on July 19, 2010, 12:45:16 PM
Quote from: beer baron on July 18, 2010, 01:13:14 PM
Quote from: Swadman on July 18, 2010, 12:01:18 PM
Lots of posts about who the new manager should be. Local or outsider? Proven record or new talent?
YES these are important questions but we could get Gus Hiddink and his entire professional back room staff and not see any improvement for a couple of years. "Sorry Gus, you can't buy in players, you have to take them from the Cavan Accademy. I'm afraid this is what you have to pick from" After year 1 there will be posts here and on the H.S, that Gus has got to go, sure he's not even a Cavan man. After year 2 (despite securing Div 2 status) the C.B. sacks Gus but wishes him all the best in his new career as a GAA pundit on RTE.
I'm joking of course, Gus would be back on the plane 5 mins after finding out that he could only use the players within the county . THE QUALITY IS NOT THERE.   
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This i find a ridiculous statement,confidence breathes confidence and the more confidence players get the better they perform.The likes of Louth,Sligo and Roscommon at the start of this season i'd say the majority of people woyld've said the quality is not there but they've done alright for themselves and have uncovered a few gems along the way,i know i for one knew little of david kelly other than his kerry performance and penaly miss last year and now he's one of the most feared corner forwards around!
I agree, a good manager is very important. Hard job to be respected by players and at the same time to encourage, cajole, motivate them to their best. Thats why the list of good ones is a short list.
I think you mean "success breathes success" and I agree it does. Over the last few years Cavan have had minor teams who, though not successful,  should have gained confidence from good performances. Why have we not built on that?
P.S. Roscommon didn't fear Kelly yesterday.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: PhilsJemmysField on July 19, 2010, 03:10:42 PM
Even before we get a County Manager the thing we need right now is for a couple of teams to step up and complete at the senior championship level. The Gaels being so dominant and then in turn showing very little interest in the county setup is not good. Can any of us see any team finally stepping into the frame at semi final stage in the Senior championship with any chance of giving them a game let alone beat them. In the group stages if Lavey or Ramor compete with them that is a start. This is even after the Gaels have lost numerous players to a combination of injury and the States. At intermediate at least there is a feeling that BallyHaise, Killeshandra, Drumlane and Cootehill are beatable by a number of the other teams if they slip up at all, especailly as excluding Ballyhaise the other contenders are tight enough senior squads. Junior is probably somewhere between Shercock, Shannon Gaels and  Swanlinbar with the Gaels the up and coming team if they build on league form. 

Somehow even before we get a county team we need a strong competitive County Championship at all levels. So it does not matter that much who we have at County level till the clubs pull the finger out and give a county manager something to work with. We will be second best. 
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Breffni_Yank on July 19, 2010, 04:36:49 PM
Quote from: PhilsJemmysField on July 19, 2010, 03:10:42 PM
Even before we get a County Manager the thing we need right now is for a couple of teams to step up and complete at the senior championship level. The Gaels being so dominant and then in turn showing very little interest in the county setup is not good. Can any of us see any team finally stepping into the frame at semi final stage in the Senior championship with any chance of giving them a game let alone beat them. In the group stages if Lavey or Ramor compete with them that is a start. This is even after the Gaels have lost numerous players to a combination of injury and the States. At intermediate at least there is a feeling that BallyHaise, Killeshandra, Drumlane and Cootehill are beatable by a number of the other teams if they slip up at all, especailly as excluding Ballyhaise the other contenders are tight enough senior squads. Junior is probably somewhere between Shercock, Shannon Gaels and  Swanlinbar with the Gaels the up and coming team if they build on league form. 

Somehow even before we get a county team we need a strong competitive County Championship at all levels. So it does not matter that much who we have at County level till the clubs pull the finger out and give a county manager something to work with. We will be second best.

Agree with you completely. In fairness Intermediate and Junior is competitive but Senior is the problem. Ramor have been going brutal this year and don't see them doing much at all. It really is hard to see anyone pushing them close. Castlerahan have never realised there potential and Kingscourt been going well but championship is another thing.

Any word back home regarding the job and who is interested or is it still just gossip? I am sure a few of ye boy's are in the loop.

Myself and four other Cavan men ranging between 19-30 had a great debate out here last night about the Cavan team. I'm not too familiar with the college set-up but ideally this is the team we thought should start the McKenna Cup. A few new faces in and around a few experienced heads. I think many of the lads that have been tried in the McKenna in the last few years have really been thrown in the deep end and a few lads that have been in and around the set-up need to be playing to help them settle in. I coudnt be arsed talking about the team we picked but here was a raw blue-print we came up with.

             O'Meara
Hannon Darren Smith Crotty/Duffy (Cant remember which one....Gaels anyway)

Flanagan Chesty Dermot Sheridan
   
     Gearoid McK/Givney

Niall Smith Nesty Lyng

Mackey Cullivan Johnston 
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on July 19, 2010, 10:03:36 PM
Breffini Yank
Many of the lads you named should definetely be on the panel,
Karl Crotty
Gavin Duffy
Chesty
(havent seen the Gaels 1st team this year,so i dont know if any of them are gone abroad)

Gearoid McKiernan and David Givney is the best midfield partnership available to us,seeing as Trevor Crowe refuses to join the panel.If the Lacken tank did join(which we are all hoping the new manager might be able to achieve) possibly switching Gearoid to wing forward/third midfielder would be perfect,and let Trevor horse around in the centre.
Niall Smith of the Gaels and county under 21's?
terrifically talented player,but he doesntr have the size or physique to play at this level yet.

We need big men scattered all over the team,
Michael O Reily(Sherock) was one i was seriously impressed with this year.
Big lad well over 6'2,mobile,good on the ball and a great fielder.
Darren Smith deserves a trial at full back,as does Sean McCormack of my own club in my opinion.
a big full forward 6'2 plus would also be nice.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on July 19, 2010, 11:40:43 PM
Quote from: put-it-up on July 19, 2010, 10:17:38 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on July 19, 2010, 10:03:36 PM
Breffini Yank
Many of the lads you named should definetely be on the panel,
Karl Crotty
Gavin Duffy
Chesty
(havent seen the Gaels 1st team this year,so i dont know if any of them are gone abroad)

Gearoid McKiernan and David Givney is the best midfield partnership available to us,seeing as Trevor Crowe refuses to join the panel.If the Lacken tank did join(which we are all hoping the new manager might be able to achieve) possibly switching Gearoid to wing forward/third midfielder would be perfect,and let Trevor horse around in the centre.
Niall Smith of the Gaels and county under 21's?
terrifically talented player,but he doesntr have the size or physique to play at this level yet.

We need big men scattered all over the team,
Michael O Reily(Sherock) was one i was seriously impressed with this year.
Big lad well over 6'2,mobile,good on the ball and a great fielder.
Darren Smith deserves a trial at full back,as does Sean McCormack of my own club in my opinion.
a big full forward 6'2 plus would also be nice.

With regards to Crotty and Duffy I am not so sure BHM. Are we just picking them because they are from the Gaels? By all means they deserve a chance but are they really that good? I also haven't seen the Gaels first team play this year I am afraid. But I know Smith may be small but boy god his pace is frightening and I would surely have him on the panel to offer something different. Imagine him coming onto you with ten minutes to go - defenders nightmare. Would need to improve his upper body strength gradually but i think he possesses an attribute that could be utuilized in certain situations.

I can get ya a big forward BHM, he just won't to be any good!

Ya smart hoor PIU  :D , you know what i meant.
Paddy Byrd from your shamrocks should be in there aswell PIU,hes a much better option than some of those on it,
Darryl McConnell is back with Drumlane this year and playing great stuff from what im told,if hes sticking around in Ireland,He should be an automatic on any panel.
Its time to look at John Tierney again,he was outstanding the 3 times ive seen him play this year,He beat Ballyhaise on his own in the first league game of the year.With the likes of players with an injury past like Tierney id leave him out of collective county training until February/March to protect him.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on July 20, 2010, 12:20:25 AM
Quote from: Breffni_Yank on July 19, 2010, 04:36:49 PM
Quote from: PhilsJemmysField on July 19, 2010, 03:10:42 PM
Even before we get a County Manager the thing we need right now is for a couple of teams to step up and complete at the senior championship level. The Gaels being so dominant and then in turn showing very little interest in the county setup is not good. Can any of us see any team finally stepping into the frame at semi final stage in the Senior championship with any chance of giving them a game let alone beat them. In the group stages if Lavey or Ramor compete with them that is a start. This is even after the Gaels have lost numerous players to a combination of injury and the States. At intermediate at least there is a feeling that BallyHaise, Killeshandra, Drumlane and Cootehill are beatable by a number of the other teams if they slip up at all, especailly as excluding Ballyhaise the other contenders are tight enough senior squads. Junior is probably somewhere between Shercock, Shannon Gaels and  Swanlinbar with the Gaels the up and coming team if they build on league form. 

Somehow even before we get a county team we need a strong competitive County Championship at all levels. So it does not matter that much who we have at County level till the clubs pull the finger out and give a county manager something to work with. We will be second best.

Agree with you completely. In fairness Intermediate and Junior is competitive but Senior is the problem. Ramor have been going brutal this year and don't see them doing much at all. It really is hard to see anyone pushing them close. Castlerahan have never realised there potential and Kingscourt been going well but championship is another thing.

Any word back home regarding the job and who is interested or is it still just gossip? I am sure a few of ye boy's are in the loop.

Myself and four other Cavan men ranging between 19-30 had a great debate out here last night about the Cavan team. I'm not too familiar with the college set-up but ideally this is the team we thought should start the McKenna Cup. A few new faces in and around a few experienced heads. I think many of the lads that have been tried in the McKenna in the last few years have really been thrown in the deep end and a few lads that have been in and around the set-up need to be playing to help them settle in. I coudnt be arsed talking about the team we picked but here was a raw blue-print we came up with.

             O'Meara
Hannon Darren Smith Crotty/Duffy (Cant remember which one....Gaels anyway)

Flanagan Chesty Dermot Sheridan
   
     Gearoid McK/Givney

Niall Smith Nesty Lyng

Mackey Cullivan Johnston
How about your own club man James Clarke Breffni Yank, would he be worth a shot?? Anybody else from Kilinkere worth a shot?

Have to agree with BH Man, John Tierney is playing unreal stuff. Beat us a few weeks ago too.Even for 30 minutes he would bring so much to any team.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on July 20, 2010, 01:46:11 AM
To be honest PIU,
Tierney is in good shape,he has no excess body fat on,and hes built like a horse, hes obviously been eating the weights.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on July 20, 2010, 08:34:49 AM
What about your own Tierney BHM? Too early?
Good to hear that there are some options at MF in your opinions. There just has to be better than Walsh and Mulvey. I would say no to Tierney and no to Niall Smith also, at this stage.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: PhilsJemmysField on July 20, 2010, 11:21:15 AM
Michael O Reilly from Shercock was he on u21 panel this year ? 
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dougal on July 20, 2010, 11:36:08 AM
Quote from: PhilsJemmysField on July 20, 2010, 11:21:15 AM
Michael O Reilly from Shercock was he on u21 panel this year ?

he was,came on against down,and maybe came on at some stage against monaghan.ive seen very little of him,but hes big and seems to be a good footballer.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on July 20, 2010, 11:42:48 AM
Quote from: PhilsJemmysField on July 20, 2010, 11:21:15 AM
Michael O Reilly from Shercock was he on u21 panel this year ?

Scored a goal against down. Has all the raw attributed needed to be a decent midfielder. He can catch and is a decent fielder and can kick the occasional score.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: The Konica on July 20, 2010, 02:48:37 PM
Quote from: put-it-up on July 20, 2010, 10:51:46 AM
Quote from: Lawrence of Knockbride on July 20, 2010, 08:34:49 AM
What about your own Tierney BHM? Too early?
Good to hear that there are some options at MF in your opinions. There just has to be better than Walsh and Mulvey. I would say no to Tierney and no to Niall Smith also, at this stage.

With all due respect Kevin couldn't get a look in with the u21's this year. A fantastic talent but the next two years playing at that level will help him no-end. I would leave him alone until then.

Does anyone know if any date for applications or anything has been set? I think if we are going to go outside the county we will have to identify our man and move quick. Going to be a serious manager turnover in this Province this year. Antrim, Derry, Donegal, Cavan, Monaghan and arguably Fermanagh. I think if any manager has a choice between and us all of them, maybe bar Fermanagh, he would choose the other option.

I'd bet that you're the only one in the county thinking like that.

You can guarantee that not a sinner on the County Board are that proactive. They're waiting for Sports Tracker to do it for them again.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on July 20, 2010, 03:28:59 PM
Quote from: put-it-up on July 20, 2010, 10:51:46 AM
Quote from: Lawrence of Knockbride on July 20, 2010, 08:34:49 AM
What about your own Tierney BHM? Too early?
Good to hear that there are some options at MF in your opinions. There just has to be better than Walsh and Mulvey. I would say no to Tierney and no to Niall Smith also, at this stage.

With all due respect Kevin couldn't get a look in with the u21's this year. A fantastic talent but the next two years playing at that level will help him no-end. I would leave him alone until then.

Does anyone know if any date for applications or anything has been set? I think if we are going to go outside the county we will have to identify our man and move quick. Going to be a serious manager turnover in this Province this year. Antrim, Derry, Donegal, Cavan, Monaghan and arguably Fermanagh. I think if any manager has a choice between and us all of them, maybe bar Fermanagh, he would choose the other option.

Well going on form since then I think Kevin Tierney has shown that he should have got alot more than a look in. Still young but a fine prospect. He has added a right foot to his game also.

PIU Paddy Bird IMO is a fine footballer with alot going for him, only negative is he may need to keep the head up more and pass it about.

So what about the Championship this wkend?
Ballyhaise and Bridge has been moved to Redhills, which Im sure BHMan is not happy about :D
Whats the other match-ups?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on July 20, 2010, 03:48:02 PM
Gowna v Denn which must mean that Mullahoran v Belturbet is the other game in that group. Lacken v Castlerathan too. The Junior Group A has the top 4 teams from the league in the same group. Who have you got Boojangles?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on July 20, 2010, 03:50:18 PM
Fixtures

Thursday, 22nd July 2010 @ 8pm
Hotel Kilmore Senior Championship
Lacken v Castlerahan
Venue: Kingspan Breffni Park
Referee: Michael Lee
Linesmen: Brian Seagrave & Harry Conaty


Thursday, 22nd July 2010 @ 8pm
Hotel Kilmore Intermediate Championship
Killeshandra v Drumgoon
Venue: Max McGrath Memorial Park, Redhills
Referee: Noel Mooney
Linesmen: Kieran West & Ollie Henry

Thursday, 22nd July 2010 @ 8pm
Hotel Kilmore Junior Championship
Munterconnacht v Cornfean
Venue: Sheelin Park, Ballymachugh
Referee: Tony Gregory
Linesmen: Tony McDonald & Robbie McDermott

Kildallon v Mountnugent
Venue: St. Felim's Park, Drumalee
Referee: Ciaran McCarville
Linesmen: Noel Mooney & Packie Smith

Maghera v Shercock
Venue: St. Anne's Park, Bailieboro
Referee: John Emmo
Linesmen: Raymond Kelly & Eugene Tormey

Friday, 23rd July 2010 @ 8pm
Hotel Kilmore Senior Championship
Lavey v Cavan Gaels
Venue: Kingspan Breffni Park
Referee: MG Brady
Linesmen: James Clarke & Pat Clarke

Ballinagh v Ramor Utd
Venue: Dr Plunkett Park, Kilnaleck
Referee: Jimmy Galligan, Killygarry
Linesmen: Paddy Carroll & Margaret Farrelly

Friday, 23rd July 2010 @ 8pm
Hotel Kilmore Intermediate Championship
Drumlane v Ballymachugh
Venue: Crowe Memorial Park, Lacken
Referee: Jimmy Galligan, Lacken
Linesmen: Ronan Bannon & Martin Brady Lacken

Knockbride v Drung
Venue: Hugh O'Reilly Park, Cootehill
Referee: Jim Giblin
Linesmen: Ciaran McCarville & Declan McCabe

Friday, 23rd July 2010 @ 8pm
A.C.F.L. Reserve Division 3 Round 15
Mullahoran v Cornafean
Referee: Tony McDonald

Saturday, 24th July 2010 @ 8pm
Hotel Kilmore Senior Championship
Denn v Gowna
Venue: Ballinagh GAA Grounds, Ballinagh
Referee: Martin Sexton
Linesmen: Raymond Tynan & Brian Crowe

Cuchulainns v Kingscourt
Venue: Ramor Utd Park, Virginia
Referee: Packie Smith
Linesmen: Seamus O'Connor & Phil Devine

Saturday, 24th July 2010 @ 8pm
Hotel Kilmore Intermediate Championship
Ballyhaise v Butlersbridge (Game at 6.30pm)
Venue: Max McGrath Memorial Park, Redhills
Referee: Raymond Tynan
Linesmen: Kieran O'Reilly & Jim Hyland

Baileborough v Cavan Gaels
Venue: PJ Duke Park, Stradone
Referee: Brian Seagrave
Linesmen: Michael McCann & Jimmy Galligan Killygarry

Drumalee v Kill
Venue: Athletic Grounds, Crubany
Referee: Chris McCaffrey
Linesmen: Thomas Doonan & Cormac Geoghegan

Saturday, 24th July 2010 @ 8pm
Hotel Kilmore Junior Championship
Arva v Corlough
Venue: Paric na gCead Uladh, Ballyconnell First Ulsters
Referee: John Cassidy
Linesmen: Stephen McKiernan & Padraig Gilheaney

Sunday, 25th July 2010
Hotel Kilmore Senior Championship
Redhills v Blackwater Gaels (Game at 2.30pm)
Venue: New Inns, Lavey
Referee: Joe McQuillan
Linesmen: Eugene Tormey & Tony Gregory

Crosserlough v Killygarry (Game at 4pm)
Venue: Kingspan Breffni Park
Referee: Gerry Sheridan
Linesmen: MG Brady & Noel Mooney

Belturbet v Mullahoran (Game at 7.30pm)
Venue: Kingspan Breffni Park
Referee: Raymond Kelly
Linesmen: Raymond Tynan & Michael Lee

Sunday, 25th July 2010 @ 2.30pm
Hotel Kilmore Intermediate Championship
Cootehill v Killinkere
Venue: Kingspan Breffni Park
Referee: Seamus O'Connor
Linesmen: John Emmo & Harry Conaty

Sunday, 25th July 2010 @ 5.30pm
Hotel Kilmore Junior Championship
Shannon Gaels v Swanlinbar
Venue: St Patrick's, Corlough
Referee: Ollie Donohoe
Linesmen: Stephen McKiernan & Paddy Archibald

Thursday, 29th July 2010 @ 8pm
Hotel Kilmore Senior Championship
Ballinagh v Lavey
Venue: Kingspan Breffni Park
Referee: Ollie Donohoe

Thursday, 29th July 2010 @ 8pm
Hotel Kilmore Junior Championship
Mountnugent v Corlough
Venue: Rory O'Moore Park, Belturbet
Referee: John Emmo

Maghera v Templeport
Venue: Athletic Grounds, Crubany
Referee: Tony Gregory

Friday, 30th July @ 8pm
Hotel Kilmore Senior Championship
Denn v Belturbet
Venue: Kingspan Breffni Park
Referee: Michael Lee

Friday, 30th July @ 8pm
Hotel Kilmore Intermediate Championship
Ballymachugh v Drung
Venue: St. Felim's Park, Drumalee
Referee: Seamus O'Connor

Drumgoon v Butlersbridge
Venue: Hugh O'Reilly Park, Cootehill
Referee: Jimmy Galligan - Lacken

Friday, 30th July @ 8pm
Hotel Kilmore Junior Championship
Kildallon v Arva
Venue: St Patrick's, Corlough
Referee: Jimmy Galligan - Lacken

Munterconacht v Shannon Gaels
Venue: O'Connell Park, Drumlane
Referee: Brian Seagrave

Saturday, 31st July 2010 @ 8pm
Hotel Kilmore Senior Championship
Castlerahan v Killygarry
Venue: Kingspan Breffni Park
Referee: Raymond Kelly

Saturday, 31st July 2010 @ 8pm
Hotel Kilmore Intermediate Championship
Drumlane v Knockbride (Game at 6.30pm)
Venue: Kingspan Breffni Park
Referee: MG Brady

Cootehill v Bailieboro
Venue: O'Raghallaigh Park, Kinscourt
Referee: Noel Mooney

Killinkere v Cavan Gaels
Venue: Sheelin Park, Ballymachugh
Referee: Brendan Sweeney

Laragh Utd v Drumalee
Venue: Ballinagh GAA Grounds, Ballinagh
Referee: Martin Brady - Ballinagh

Saturday, 31st July 2010 @ 8pm
Hotel Kilmore Junior Championship
Cornafean v Swanlinbar
Venue: Pairc na gCead Uladh, Ballyconnell First Ulsters
Referee: Raymond Tynan

Sunday, 01st August @ 2pm
Hotel Kilmore Senior Championship
Lacken v Crosserlough
Venue: Our Lady of Lourdes Park, Mullahoran
Referee: Martin Sexton

Ramor Utd v Cavan Gaels
Venue: Lavey GAA Grounds, Lavey
Referee: Ciaran McCarville

Kingscourt v Blackwater Gaels (Game at 6pm)
Venue: PJ Duke Park, Stradone
Referee: Packie Smith

Cuchulainns v Redhills (Game at 4pm)
Venue: Kingspan Breffni Park
Referee: Gerry Sheridan

Gowna v Mullahoran (Game at 7.30pm)
Venue: Kingspan Breffni Park
Referee: Jimmy Galligan - Killygarry

Sunday, 01st August @ 2pm
Hotel Kilmore Intermediate Championship
Killeshandra v Ballyhaise
Venue: Kingspan Breffni Park
Referee: Joe McQuillan

Wednesday, 04th August 2010 @ 7.30pm
Hotel Kilmore Junior B Special Competition
Cuchulainns v Ramor Utd
Referee: Eugene Tormey   
Kingscourt v Gowna   
Referee: Michael McCann   
Denn v Lacken   
Referee: Ronan Bannon
Redhills v Castlerhan   
Referee: Stephen McKiernan   
Belturbet v Ballinagh   
Referee: Margaret Farrelly   
Killygarry v Mullahoran   
Referee: Kieran O'Reilly

Wednesday, 04th August 2010 @ 7.30pm
Hotel Kilmore Junior C Special Competition
Drumalee v Cootehill   
Referee: Harry Conaty
Ballyhaise v Drumlane
Referee: Thomas Doonan
Drung v Shercock   
Referee: James Clarke   
Butlersbridge v Killinkere   
Referee: Declan McCabe

Wednesday, 04th August 2010 @ 7.30pm
Junior Kilmore Junior D Special Competition
Shannon Gaels v Swanlinbar
Referee: Liam Kelly   
Arva v Killeshandra   
Referee: Martin Brady - Lacken   
Templeport v Laragh Utd   
Referee: Padraig Gilheaney   
Cornafean v Ballyconnell First Ulsters
Referee: Tony McDonald   

Mountnugent v Ballymachugh
Referee: Paddy Carroll   

Thursday, 05th August 2010 @ 7.30pm
Junior Kilmore Junior D Special Competition
Killinkere v Mullahoran
Referee: Robbie McDermott   
Bailieboro v Ballyhaise   
Referee: John Emmo
Munterconnacht v Killygarry   
Referee: Pat Clarke   
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on July 20, 2010, 03:52:47 PM
Quote from: put-it-up on July 20, 2010, 03:47:23 PM
Well then I hope some people in the CB read on here - or maybe they don't know what the interweb is yet  ;D

Don't bet on it - look at the state of the County website and the boyo they have involved too....  It's embarrassing  :-[ :-[
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on July 20, 2010, 04:04:03 PM
Quote from: put-it-up on July 20, 2010, 04:00:46 PM
Quote from: Celt_Man on July 20, 2010, 03:52:47 PM
Quote from: put-it-up on July 20, 2010, 03:47:23 PM
Well then I hope some people in the CB read on here - or maybe they don't know what the interweb is yet  ;D

Don't bet on it - look at the state of the County website and the boyo they have involved too....  It's embarrassing  :-[ :-[

Is that Mister Hoganstand you're on about? 'Crack' hasn't come back since the last I questioned him  ;D

Aye that would be him alright - sure he'd be busy putting together his application for the Senior job ;D :D :D

Funny I reckon I know what sort of a boyo he is without ever meeting him.... :P :P
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on July 20, 2010, 04:09:01 PM
Quote from: put-it-up on July 20, 2010, 03:47:23 PM
Quote from: The Konica on July 20, 2010, 02:48:37 PM
Quote from: put-it-up on July 20, 2010, 10:51:46 AM
Quote from: Lawrence of Knockbride on July 20, 2010, 08:34:49 AM
What about your own Tierney BHM? Too early?
Good to hear that there are some options at MF in your opinions. There just has to be better than Walsh and Mulvey. I would say no to Tierney and no to Niall Smith also, at this stage.

With all due respect Kevin couldn't get a look in with the u21's this year. A fantastic talent but the next two years playing at that level will help him no-end. I would leave him alone until then.

Does anyone know if any date for applications or anything has been set? I think if we are going to go outside the county we will have to identify our man and move quick. Going to be a serious manager turnover in this Province this year. Antrim, Derry, Donegal, Cavan, Monaghan and arguably Fermanagh. I think if any manager has a choice between and us all of them, maybe bar Fermanagh, he would choose the other option.

I'd bet that you're the only one in the county thinking like that.

You can guarantee that not a sinner on the County Board are that proactive. They're waiting for Sports Tracker to do it for them again.


Prediction time for Championships?

Senior: Champions:                       Darkhorse:
Intermediate Champions:               Darkhourse:
Junior Champions;                         Darkhorse:

Don't let us hold ya back Celt Man??

Cavan Gaels Kingscourt
Ballyhaise Cootehill
Shercock Shannon Gaels
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on July 20, 2010, 04:12:29 PM
Cavan Gaels - Kingscourt
Ballyhaise - Drumlane
Shannon Gaels - Shercock

And if your man applies for the Senior Job, I will prob wet my trousers laughing!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: PhilsJemmysField on July 20, 2010, 05:16:59 PM
Dark Horses

Senior Darkhorse:   Belturbet with a couple of the new lads they have they may finally catch the gaels

Intermediate Darkhourse:  Kill Big man is playing out of his skin at midfield last few weeks and they have 2 scoring forwards starting winning games outside the home patch in the league as well

Junior Darkhorse: none as 3 teams come out of the group then it will be between Shannon Gaels, Swad and Shercock plus one at the quater finals so winner to come out of these 3
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on July 21, 2010, 11:07:19 AM
http://www.hoganstand.com/Cavan/ArticleForm.aspx?ID=132546

Don't know how true it is! I can think of a lot worse.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: The Konica on July 21, 2010, 11:43:25 AM
That 'could' be a very good appointment.

I'd like to see a structure put in place though if he does come in so you're not left in the same position as this year and no Cavan man 'trained up' or no one from Cavan as an understudy to him.

There's a whole load of other things but that's one reservation....
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Blue06 on July 21, 2010, 11:50:55 AM
The only negative I can think re McGrath is that he is part of Sportstracker and he
recommended Tommy Carr to our CB last time round. :-\
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: beer baron on July 21, 2010, 11:55:28 AM
Quote from: Blue06 on July 21, 2010, 11:50:55 AM
The only negative I can think re McGrath is that he is part of Sportstracker and he
recommended Tommy Carr to our CB last time round. :-\

Could've been all part of his evil plan to get the job 2 years later  :P
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on July 21, 2010, 12:05:08 PM
Lian Austin.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: The Konica on July 21, 2010, 12:10:30 PM
Quote from: put-it-up on July 21, 2010, 11:52:43 AM
What do you mean 'could'?

I think Pete would command respect and as he coached an u21 side to an AI Final recently it shows he is still in touch with the modern game. Also agree that the 'next' Cavan manager if you like could learn an awful lot from being in the set-up, while managing say the u21's or even minors at the same time.

The key for me, no matter who is appointed, is that the candidate is not interested in the position for financial gain. You would hope he is interested in the job because he wants to be in IC management and he wants a challenge.

If they want money it has to be earned. Alternatively do the lotto  ;D
(I'm not judging Pete, I think he himself won't be the problem if there is one)

'Could'....
Well what I mean is there's two ways to appoint a good manager ... the right way and the wrong way!

Right way -
Put a good structure around him, provide him with support, ask him what he needs, get him to direct the county's affairs, not just manage senior players, get his advice on the U21's, planning structure etc.
Make sure he's accountable to the County Board, make sure he is supported by the CB. etc. Even through tough times.
Make sure there is a succession plan - who is learning from him - Brady? Graham? Hyland?

Wrong way -
Meet him. Discuss Finance. Appoint him. Milk the Media plaudits. Wash your hands of him.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on July 21, 2010, 02:09:59 PM
Quote from: The Konica on July 21, 2010, 12:10:30 PM
Quote from: put-it-up on July 21, 2010, 11:52:43 AM
What do you mean 'could'?

I think Pete would command respect and as he coached an u21 side to an AI Final recently it shows he is still in touch with the modern game. Also agree that the 'next' Cavan manager if you like could learn an awful lot from being in the set-up, while managing say the u21's or even minors at the same time.

The key for me, no matter who is appointed, is that the candidate is not interested in the position for financial gain. You would hope he is interested in the job because he wants to be in IC management and he wants a challenge.

If they want money it has to be earned. Alternatively do the lotto  ;D
(I'm not judging Pete, I think he himself won't be the problem if there is one)

'Could'....
Well what I mean is there's two ways to appoint a good manager ... the right way and the wrong way!

Right way -
Put a good structure around him, provide him with support, ask him what he needs, get him to direct the county's affairs, not just manage senior players, get his advice on the U21's, planning structure etc.
Make sure he's accountable to the County Board, make sure he is supported by the CB. etc. Even through tough times.
Make sure there is a succession plan - who is learning from him - Brady? Graham? Hyland?

Wrong way -
Meet him. Discuss Finance. Appoint him. Milk the Media plaudits. Wash your hands of him.

Konica I'm not sure where you'v come out of or if your even from Cavan but I have to say you've brought some excellent points and debate to the thread of late with the above post being an example.
Keep it up and lets just hope some people in power are on the same wave length as you.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: The Konica on July 21, 2010, 02:54:47 PM
Quote from: boojangles on July 21, 2010, 02:09:59 PM
Quote from: The Konica on July 21, 2010, 12:10:30 PM
Quote from: put-it-up on July 21, 2010, 11:52:43 AM
What do you mean 'could'?

I think Pete would command respect and as he coached an u21 side to an AI Final recently it shows he is still in touch with the modern game. Also agree that the 'next' Cavan manager if you like could learn an awful lot from being in the set-up, while managing say the u21's or even minors at the same time.

The key for me, no matter who is appointed, is that the candidate is not interested in the position for financial gain. You would hope he is interested in the job because he wants to be in IC management and he wants a challenge.

If they want money it has to be earned. Alternatively do the lotto  ;D
(I'm not judging Pete, I think he himself won't be the problem if there is one)

'Could'....
Well what I mean is there's two ways to appoint a good manager ... the right way and the wrong way!

Right way -
Put a good structure around him, provide him with support, ask him what he needs, get him to direct the county's affairs, not just manage senior players, get his advice on the U21's, planning structure etc.
Make sure he's accountable to the County Board, make sure he is supported by the CB. etc. Even through tough times.
Make sure there is a succession plan - who is learning from him - Brady? Graham? Hyland?

Wrong way -
Meet him. Discuss Finance. Appoint him. Milk the Media plaudits. Wash your hands of him.

Konica I'm not sure where you'v come out of or if your even from Cavan but I have to say you've brought some excellent points and debate to the thread of late with the above post being an example.
Keep it up and lets just hope some people in power are on the same wave length as you.

Thank you Boojangles ... much appreciated.
I would hope that Cavan County Board are forward thinking, but we will wait and see.

Perhaps I should throw my name in the hat?!
:)


Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: The Konica on July 21, 2010, 05:05:33 PM
Quote from: put-it-up on July 21, 2010, 04:59:46 PM

Sure if the groundsman from Breffni sees fit to then you are certainly entitled to! Are you a Cavan Man? I sense some Breffni blood in there ;D

You lost me there PIU?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: The Konica on July 21, 2010, 05:24:31 PM
Ha ha ... really? Wow! Any one can go for it then!

Sadly only about 1/4 Blue Blooded ... but I know a little about the Breffini County workings, having watched Cavan for years now.
Of course you can't tell the tale of Ulster football without understanding the role of Cavan in the GAA until the 50's.

I just think it's about time you made a return to the top teir and challenged for the USFC again, but you as a county have lost your way, have been by-passed and forgotten how to win and I'm just throwing out a few pointers in case someone of influence is reading and it helps or sparks an idea for them.

It's nothing other than that and I sincerely hope you don't take offense at my comments, me not being a Cavan man!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: The Konica on July 21, 2010, 05:45:28 PM
Well I'll wait for the advert and dust off an old CV for the County Board and see what they say.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: beer baron on July 21, 2010, 06:35:15 PM
Took a trip to Sean shields today,asked for few prices in intermediate,Ballyhaise,drumlane and Killeshandra are all 3/1,Cootehill and Drumgoon 6/1 if anyone interested.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Swadman on July 21, 2010, 08:31:34 PM
I heard on "da wireless" (NOT Northern Sound) that Jim McGuiness is a shoe-in for the Donegal job and Pete McGrath is indeed a front runner for Breffni
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: The Konica on July 21, 2010, 08:38:39 PM
Quote from: Swadman on July 21, 2010, 08:31:34 PM
I heard on "da wireless" (NOT Northern Sound) that Jim McGuiness is a shoe-in for the Donegal job and Pete McGrath is indeed a front runner for Breffni
Well there's a chance it's true then if you heard it somewhere else.
Surprised that Pete is interested in the job. Wonder what his motivations are?
Love of the game?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on July 21, 2010, 08:50:42 PM
I had completely forgotten about Pete McGrath. If he's willing I'd say he has a serious point to prove to his own county board and can you imagine the sparks if he came up against Down and them being managed by the man who beat McGrath himself to the job.

Interesting angles aside though, McGrath is well respected but hasn't managed senior for some time, and achieved most in the 'pre-negative tactics era' as, eh, nobody but me calls it. 1994 is a world away from 2010 in gaelic football terms.

I recall him having a lot of fallouts with Down players too - there was always lads leaving and coming back to the panel throughout the year in dribs and drabs, so I don't know if our primadonnas with take to him. And he showed a lot of foolhardiness by staying in charge way too long up there. His U21 performances show that he's still in touch with the game to a degree though. Just not certain he fits the bill at this particular time even though I can't say why exactly.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: The Konica on July 21, 2010, 09:00:46 PM
Cons
- Been out of the game for quite a while at senior level
- Tactically game has changed a lot
- Has he the knowledge or knows someone to do the physical training?
- Not from Cavan

Pro's
- Very well respected
- An Ulster man, knows Ulster football very well
- Authoritarian & Disciplined
- Experience handling all kinds of personalities
- Has been there and worn the t-shirt, knows what it takes
- A lot of knowledge and experience the county could gain from
- A point to prove to people in Down
- Immensely dedicated & hard working
- Not from Cavan
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on July 21, 2010, 10:11:25 PM
Quote from: The Konica on July 21, 2010, 09:00:46 PM
Cons
- Been out of the game for quite a while at senior level
- Tactically game has changed a lot
- Has he the knowledge or knows someone to do the physical training?
- Not from Cavan

Pro's
- Very well respected
- An Ulster man, knows Ulster football very well
- Authoritarian & Disciplined
- Experience handling all kinds of personalities
- Has been there and worn the t-shirt, knows what it takes
- A lot of knowledge and experience the county could gain from
- A point to prove to people in Down
- Immensely dedicated & hard working
- Not from Cavan

An added con is that he never showed any interest in the league when with Down and I think the league is where we need to win some matches to build up confidence. Is he a journeyman or is he a genuine guy that will demand success? I think if it were between McGrath and say Canavan I'd lean towards a punt on Canavan - I think his more recent exposure to the big time would carry more weight with the players. Still, he may be a good option and I certainly would not rule him out.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: beer baron on July 21, 2010, 10:42:04 PM
Quote from: put-it-up on July 21, 2010, 10:35:40 PM
Quote from: beer baron on July 21, 2010, 06:35:15 PM
Took a trip to Sean shields today,asked for few prices in intermediate,Ballyhaise,drumlane and Killeshandra are all 3/1,Cootehill and Drumgoon 6/1 if anyone interested.

Any Idea on Bailieborough BB?

No theyre just the ones i asked for off the top of my head,few pound to collect in there tomorrow so ill ask if i remember
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on July 21, 2010, 10:48:02 PM
Quote from: beer baron on July 21, 2010, 10:42:04 PM
Quote from: put-it-up on July 21, 2010, 10:35:40 PM
Quote from: beer baron on July 21, 2010, 06:35:15 PM
Took a trip to Sean shields today,asked for few prices in intermediate,Ballyhaise,drumlane and Killeshandra are all 3/1,Cootehill and Drumgoon 6/1 if anyone interested.

Any Idea on Bailieborough BB?

No theyre just the ones i asked for off the top of my head,few pound to collect in there tomorrow so ill ask if i remember

Hope you're lifting it off your fellow clubman and not giving any custom to those stone throwers on Bridge Street!! ;) ;)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: beer baron on July 21, 2010, 11:09:03 PM
God no the only time the stone throwers get a visit is for 1st goalscorer bets-they double the odds if your player gets a 2nd! ;D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on July 21, 2010, 11:10:57 PM
Quote from: Celt_Man on July 21, 2010, 10:48:02 PM
Quote from: beer baron on July 21, 2010, 10:42:04 PM
Quote from: put-it-up on July 21, 2010, 10:35:40 PM
Quote from: beer baron on July 21, 2010, 06:35:15 PM
Took a trip to Sean shields today,asked for few prices in intermediate,Ballyhaise,drumlane and Killeshandra are all 3/1,Cootehill and Drumgoon 6/1 if anyone interested.

Any Idea on Bailieborough BB?

No theyre just the ones i asked for off the top of my head,few pound to collect in there tomorrow so ill ask if i remember

Hope you're lifting it off your fellow clubman and not giving any custom to those stone throwers on Bridge Street!! ;) ;)

Don't think he's a Meath man Celt Man,if its Macs your talking about?? I believe he's from Maghera.

Pete Mc Grath could bring alot to Cavan IMO but I would be suprised if he's interested. I'd be even more suprised if Canavan is interested.

Did our Cootehill, Kilinkere and Bailieboro posters hear they are now playing in a 3 team group as Cavan Gaels have pulled out of the Intermediate championship.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on July 21, 2010, 11:23:10 PM
Quote from: boojangles on July 21, 2010, 11:10:57 PM
Quote from: Celt_Man on July 21, 2010, 10:48:02 PM
Quote from: beer baron on July 21, 2010, 10:42:04 PM
Quote from: put-it-up on July 21, 2010, 10:35:40 PM
Quote from: beer baron on July 21, 2010, 06:35:15 PM
Took a trip to Sean shields today,asked for few prices in intermediate,Ballyhaise,drumlane and Killeshandra are all 3/1,Cootehill and Drumgoon 6/1 if anyone interested.

Any Idea on Bailieborough BB?

No theyre just the ones i asked for off the top of my head,few pound to collect in there tomorrow so ill ask if i remember

Hope you're lifting it off your fellow clubman and not giving any custom to those stone throwers on Bridge Street!! ;) ;)

Don't think he's a Meath man Celt Man,if its Macs your talking about?? I believe he's from Maghera.

Pete Mc Grath could bring alot to Cavan IMO but I would be suprised if he's interested. I'd be even more suprised if Canavan is interested.

Did our Cootehill, Kilinkere and Bailieboro posters hear they are now playing in a 3 team group as Cavan Gaels have pulled out of the Intermediate championship.

Well the pair of bucks working in there would be stone throwers!!

Aye Boojangles heard that there this evening - puts more pressure on Sunday's game...
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on July 22, 2010, 12:19:54 AM
Quote from: put-it-up on July 22, 2010, 12:03:25 AM
News to me. Don't hear as much as I used too now that I'm living up in the big smoke.

Will two teams stil get to come out of the group though? Gaels team would have been very poor. Most of that team is in the US and to be honest I could never understand why they were put into the competition in the first place.

Aye 2 teams still come out of the group
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: PhilsJemmysField on July 22, 2010, 11:07:36 AM
Gaels have to regrade players between teams for the championship because their second team plays in a "real" championship not a special one. They were apparently told they could regrade the players at the CCC meeting b4 championship.The Gaels submitted the regrading then a member of CCC kicked up storm said by rule they should have been regraded at February meeting. So at this moment it looks like the town team cannot field without minors. All a bit harsh in a way but I would suspect that the Gaels will still take the field on Saturday in some form
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: The Konica on July 22, 2010, 12:27:21 PM
Quote from: boojangles on July 21, 2010, 11:10:57 PM
Quote from: Celt_Man on July 21, 2010, 10:48:02 PM
Quote from: beer baron on July 21, 2010, 10:42:04 PM
Quote from: put-it-up on July 21, 2010, 10:35:40 PM
Quote from: beer baron on July 21, 2010, 06:35:15 PM
Took a trip to Sean shields today,asked for few prices in intermediate,Ballyhaise,drumlane and Killeshandra are all 3/1,Cootehill and Drumgoon 6/1 if anyone interested.

Any Idea on Bailieborough BB?

No theyre just the ones i asked for off the top of my head,few pound to collect in there tomorrow so ill ask if i remember

Hope you're lifting it off your fellow clubman and not giving any custom to those stone throwers on Bridge Street!! ;) ;)

Don't think he's a Meath man Celt Man,if its Macs your talking about?? I believe he's from Maghera.

Pete Mc Grath could bring alot to Cavan IMO but I would be suprised if he's interested. I'd be even more suprised if Canavan is interested.

Did our Cootehill, Kilinkere and Bailieboro posters hear they are now playing in a 3 team group as Cavan Gaels have pulled out of the Intermediate championship.

Yes.

I can't see Canavan having any interest at all in it, no idea where his name came from.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: handballer09 on July 22, 2010, 02:18:42 PM
Championship preview...

http://www.anglocelt.ie/sport/localgaa/articles/2010/07/22/3998801-gaels-will-take-all-the-beating/
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: beer baron on July 22, 2010, 02:22:16 PM
Few more prices for intermediate Drumalee 6/1,knockbride and bailieboro 7/1,10/1 bar these and the others i mentioned yesterday.Shields offering 8/11 for Gaels for senior  :o
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lars on July 22, 2010, 02:32:12 PM
So what is the official line regarding the Gaels? Are they in or out or whats the story? I agree with PIU, surely they have enough to field a team even if this would mean taking a bit of a beating.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on July 22, 2010, 08:37:40 PM
Quote from: Lars on July 22, 2010, 02:32:12 PM
So what is the official line regarding the Gaels? Are they in or out or whats the story? I agree with PIU, surely they have enough to field a team even if this would mean taking a bit of a beating.

They are out end of as far as I'm concerned
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on July 22, 2010, 09:30:14 PM
Just heard there Drumgoon beat Killeshandra in Redhills tonight.....
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on July 22, 2010, 09:37:59 PM
Yeah 0-15 to 2-06
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: beer baron on July 22, 2010, 10:06:14 PM
Quote from: put-it-up on July 22, 2010, 09:44:12 PM
Quote from: Lawrence of Knockbride on July 22, 2010, 09:37:59 PM
Yeah 0-15 to 2-06

Good start for the Goonies. Will they ejaculate too soon again though?  ;D ;D ;D

Here's hoping!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on July 22, 2010, 10:27:14 PM
Does anyone like that shower in fairness??  ;D

Put-it-up, what was that carryon with Under 16s against Laragh the other night?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Terry Coyle on July 23, 2010, 09:42:16 AM
Yeah we are out, bloody joke. Members of our board f**ked up. There will be a lot of harsh words this weekend.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Terry Coyle on July 23, 2010, 10:27:10 AM
Quote from: Lawrence of Knockbride on July 22, 2010, 09:37:59 PM
Yeah 0-15 to 2-06

I thought Killeshandra would have been the darkhorses for the intermediate. Going well in division 1 but I suppose that doesnt really say much either. Cant see the goonies going the distance.

And just on the comments about nobody liking them, I remember being at a game down there in their hollow and having a right going at their supporters. Jesus I thought some of our lads were bad.. Got to love winding people up at games! :)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on July 23, 2010, 10:40:04 AM
The goonies fans are like your man out of the goonies.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on July 23, 2010, 11:42:32 AM
Quote from: Terry Coyle on July 23, 2010, 09:42:16 AM
Yeah we are out, bloody joke. Members of our board f**ked up. There will be a lot of harsh words this weekend.

Heard that alright. Yas didn't re-grade players, or enough of them anyway. Surely throwing in some Minors you's could still field a team though??
Some lads won't get football now until the 2011 League starts if this is the case.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Terry Coyle on July 23, 2010, 02:01:00 PM
From what I was told we would have had to field about 7/8 minors this weekend to field a between because of lads away and injuries to senior players which would result in players from second team having to play in senior champ tonight. Lads who have been training all year for intermediate now have nothing to train for, so I may as well just hit the town this weekend.. And every other weekend this year. 8 lads from minor team was not acceptable, 3/4 is ok but that many in fairness is not on.

Rookie mistake made which will have to be addressed one way or the other. If any other club did the same I'd be giving out stink. Anyway got to concentrate on tonight regardless of what has happened.

Isnt there 3 weekends in a row of championship games to get the groups out of the way?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on July 23, 2010, 02:25:37 PM
Quote from: Terry Coyle on July 23, 2010, 02:01:00 PM
Isn't there 3 weekends in a row of championship games to get the groups out of the way?

Looks that way. I know Ballinagh play tonight (Friday), next Thursday and then the following Friday. Would it have killed them to give us a Saturday or Sunday  :-\
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on July 23, 2010, 10:32:22 PM
Any results from tonight?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on July 23, 2010, 11:15:22 PM
Knockbride bet Drung by double scores
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on July 23, 2010, 11:16:07 PM
Hotel Kilmore Senior Football Championship Group 3

Ballinagh  1-7 1-7 Ramor United 
Lavey  0-6 1-13 Cavan Gaels 

Hotel Kilmore Intermediate Football Championship Group 1

Knockbride  1-15 1-7 Drung  Cootehill Round 1
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on July 24, 2010, 12:24:52 AM
Any word on the Drumlane Ballymachugh game?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: sheelinside on July 24, 2010, 03:40:49 AM
drumlane won by 1-10 to 0-07.  ballymachugh winning by 0-05 to 0-04 at half time.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: The Konica on July 24, 2010, 09:21:12 AM
Quote from: sheelinside on July 24, 2010, 03:40:49 AM
drumlane won by 1-10 to 0-07.  ballymachugh winning by 0-05 to 0-04 at half time.
03.40?

That game ended late!
Extra Time?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on July 24, 2010, 04:25:58 PM
Lads ive figured it out
The Konica  is Pete McGrath,who is posting on here to find out about football in the county,be nice to him and he might take the job  ;D

Seen the Gaels against Lavey last night,very small crowd,less than a hundred in the stand where i was.
Gaels 1-13 Lavey 0-6,Gaels never got out of second gear.
Laveys Fergal Smith done well on Seanie,
Niall Smith and Niall Murrary were outstanding for the Gaels, as were Dominic and Sean Reily at Centre field who destroyed Sean Maguire and Karl Duke. Eamon Reily,Karl Crotty and Gearoid Collins were very good in the half back line,its good especially to see Gearoid back playing,super footballer.
The Gaels have some strength in depth

Terry Coyle will no doubt correct me, but they were without the following from what i could see
Pauric Smith,John Gurhy,Gavin Duffy and Cormac Neiligan didnt start,
Darren Rabbitte,Nicholas Walsh was missing
Daniel Graham,Conor McClarey and Robert Maloney Derham,are in the States i believe.

Lavey from last year were missing Conor Martin(Goalkeeper), Damien Smith(midfielder) and Shane Tierney, Mark Brady. Kevin Brady didnt start,they missed 4/5 scoreable chances in the first half,and their goalkeepers kickouts which barely passed the 45 killed them.
They will put it up to Ballinagh and Ramor though.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on July 24, 2010, 04:56:10 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on July 24, 2010, 04:25:58 PM
Lads ive figured it out
The Konica  is Pete McGrath,who is posting on here to find out about football in the county,be nice to him and he might take the job  ;D


BH Man I think you mean he's on here to tell us how football should be run in the county. That man, whoever he is, knows more about Cavan, Ulster and football in general than most of us.
I'm guessing the Konica will disappear into cyberspace before Xmas. He will have got a job with some county by then I'd say!!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on July 24, 2010, 09:20:30 PM
Ballyhaise 1-16 BBridge 2-10
Poor stuff from our lads,only played good football in patches.
Any other results???
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: beer baron on July 24, 2010, 10:25:42 PM
Gowna and Denn drew,not sure on score,about Denn 1-09 to Gowna 0-12.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on July 25, 2010, 12:30:10 AM
Kill 1-08 Drumalee 1-06
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on July 25, 2010, 12:34:14 AM
Quote from: boojangles on July 25, 2010, 12:30:10 AM
Kill 1-08 Drumalee 1-06

thats a bit of a shocker,what happened yas boojangles?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on July 25, 2010, 01:10:13 AM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on July 25, 2010, 12:34:14 AM
Quote from: boojangles on July 25, 2010, 12:30:10 AM
Kill 1-08 Drumalee 1-06

thats a bit of a shocker,what happened yas boojangles?

Didnt kill (excuse the pun) them off. 3points up in 2nd half and they dominated the last 10. Getting an equaliser with 3 minutes to go,then a free and a penalty which they pointed. We never make it easy for ourselves.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: The Konica on July 25, 2010, 08:17:02 AM
Quote from: boojangles on July 24, 2010, 04:56:10 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on July 24, 2010, 04:25:58 PM
Lads ive figured it out
The Konica  is Pete McGrath,who is posting on here to find out about football in the county,be nice to him and he might take the job  ;D


BH Man I think you mean he's on here to tell us how football should be run in the county. That man, whoever he is, knows more about Cavan, Ulster and football in general than most of us.
I'm guessing the Konica will disappear into cyberspace before Xmas. He will have got a job with some county by then I'd say!!
:D  :D  :D  :D

Ha ha! I'm not so sure about any of that boys.

I expected Monaghan to put it up to Kildare and Louth to at least compete with Dublin - so shows what I know!

I'm interested in Cavan for the following reasons -
- You've a unique strong tradition. Down, Kerry, Dublin, Meath and only one or two others can boast that kind of legacy. Never underestimate it's value.
- Fanatical Fans - will go everywhere and anywhere & hungry for success
- No competing Hurling to fight with for players
- Close enogh to Dublin that players can come home for training on week nights if need be, same for the West
- Wealthy 'enough' county, in other words can afford to run a county team (if someone knew how to!)
- Good footballers - well no better and no worse than anywhere else, so that should be enough if they were prepared properly
- It's about time Cavan gave someone a run for their money, tired looking at Tyrone, Armagh and Monaghan flying Ulsters flag

I'm convinced that of all the counties around you could turn things around and get a proper steam up and running if the attitude was right and the right people were in charge.

The 2 biggest problems appear to be
(1) the club scene - Cavan Gaels domination is no good for Cavan - or them! They get no proper competition in the county and when they get to Ulster they get embarrassed.
(2) the quality of people running the County set up (No offense meant). Well if you can look at that county team set up for 2 years you have to ask questions don't you?

Well that's the view from the outside ... I could be wrong.

Hopefully McGrath or whoever will come in and change those things for the better - or you'll have the same problem. To get things running you need to address the club thing first. McGrath would do worse than look at McHughs approach when he came in as I think it would be successful (initially) in getting things rolling.
It would get Cavan to the stage Monaghan are at now, but that'd be it, to progress beyond that you'd need to change the approach. But initially getting going, that approach would be good.

... neh ... what do I know!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Terry Coyle on July 25, 2010, 05:15:23 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on July 24, 2010, 04:25:58 PM
The Gaels have some strength in depth

Terry Coyle will no doubt correct me, but they were without the following from what i could see
Pauric Smith,John Gurhy,Gavin Duffy and Cormac Neiligan didnt start,
Darren Rabbitte,Nicholas Walsh was missing
Daniel Graham,Conor McClarey and Robert Maloney Derham,are in the States i believe.

You can add Micheal Lyng, Martin Dunne, Kevin Meehan, Declan Meehan and Mark Leddy to that list. Not a bad second team to have if they were about.

We did what we had to - if Lavey had have taken some of the easy chances they had in the first half then it could have been a draw or close enough at half time. Goal killed the game off in second half.

Good points by Konica except one. I know we have never won in Ulster but to say we embarrass ourselves is over the top. Not too many teams took St. Galls to extra time with 4 sent off (that was embarrassing). And any other game we have lost has been close enough.

Cucus bet Kingscourt by a point was a bit of a shock as well. Expected Kingscourt to go far enough this year. Mullahoran Belturbet tonight should be an interesting one. Mullahoran by a point! Very close game.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on July 25, 2010, 09:10:58 PM
Cootehill beat Killinkere by 1 point with 13 men.
Killygarry beat Crosserlough by 1 point.
Mullahoran and Belturbet drew.
Redhills beat Blackwater by 2 goals.
Swad bet Shannon Gaels by 3 points.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on July 27, 2010, 12:02:00 AM
Good win for us yesterday - can't believe I saw another 13 man victory over 15!!

One comment for the ref - can't actually believe someone could be that bad.  He was an absloutely scandal - sent off 2 boys for damn all and keep men on the field who should have got the line.  Hope he never gets another game
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Terry Coyle on July 27, 2010, 09:13:16 AM
Quote from: Celt_Man on July 27, 2010, 12:02:00 AM
Good win for us yesterday - can't believe I saw another 13 man victory over 15!!

One comment for the ref - can't actually believe someone could be that bad.  He was an absloutely scandal - sent off 2 boys for damn all and keep men on the field who should have got the line.  Hope he never gets another game

Who was the ref?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: PhilsJemmysField on July 27, 2010, 12:23:28 PM
Sheamus O'Connor Meathman from Carnaross refs for Maghera. His second yellow for the second chap from Cootehill was very very soft. Overall he was poor in a very very poor game. Where John McCutch was the best man by a long way
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4sam on July 27, 2010, 02:32:06 PM
Lads did ye hear that Cavan Gaels are now entered into the Junior B championship and we (Castlerahan) have to play them as Redhills are unable to field a team. What do the rest of ye think of this?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on July 27, 2010, 04:18:06 PM
Quote from: PhilsJemmysField on July 27, 2010, 12:23:28 PM
Sheamus O'Connor Meathman from Carnaross refs for Maghera. His second yellow for the second chap from Cootehill was very very soft. Overall he was poor in a very very poor game. Where John McCutch was the best man by a long way

Scandalous refereeing. How he is getting championship games is a joke. Sent off 2 corner backs for SFA and didnt send off McCarney.
Mc Cutcheon was the difference. Outstanding game.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on July 27, 2010, 04:21:37 PM
Quote from: cavan4sam on July 27, 2010, 02:32:06 PM
Lads did ye hear that Cavan Gaels are now entered into the Junior B championship and we (Castlerahan) have to play them as Redhills are unable to field a team. What do the rest of ye think of this?

If your team is as strong as it was last year you's should have no problems. Best B team I'v seen.
Not sure how it was allowed but does it really suprise you. Another back track from the powers that be.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanforever on July 27, 2010, 05:39:13 PM
this really amazes me if its true. they cant field a team for intermediate but now all of a sudden they can for jun b, this is just because they were not capable of winning the intermediate and the gaels  as you know have to win. anyway were the gaels 2nd team not playing jun a last year so how could they move up a grade, could someone explain this?

boojangles it was some jun b team that crahan had last year but many of that team will now be unavailable with lads away and a few having played for the seniors
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4sam on July 27, 2010, 06:42:47 PM
Not near as strong as last year lads, We have lost a number of lads through emigration so we will actually struggle to get a second 15 out but if the draw had stayed the way it was I would have been confident we could have progressed to the semi final at least.

I don't fully understand the reasons why they had to pull out of the Intermediate, something to do with not regrading players and not that they wouldn't be able to field a 15, if some1 could explain this to me further I would be grateful.

Apparently the CB are keen on giving the managers job to some1 from within the county and not an outside man....
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on July 27, 2010, 07:05:15 PM
The ref was an unholy disgrace the other day, I'm sure it wasn't the best of games to watch - probably exciting enough at the end.  McCutcheon had a serious game - kicked an unreal point which turned out to be the winner in the end.  Thought one of our subs had a great game too ended up with 1 - 3 and nearly set up one of the best goals you would of seen in Breffni this year only for one of our wing backs to eh... fluff his lines!!  ;D

Bailieboro will be a totally different animal and if we play like we did in the first half, we'll be more than 3 points behind at half time anyway
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on July 27, 2010, 07:08:57 PM
Quote from: put-it-up on July 27, 2010, 07:03:00 PM
If the Gaels are in Junior B now that is a fecking joke. It goes to show that they only pulled out because they didn't think they could win.

If they go for an inside man it will be Hyland. Three provincial finals with u21's, Juniors and Lavey in one year and I think he was there under Val Andrews when we last had a bit of success.

And as for O'Connor, I won't comment. Is he still wearing the white boots? Apparently he refs over her because Meath won't give him games - not sure if that is true or not

In fairness to the Gaels I think its a bit different - if they had to play 7 or 8 minors to field a team - completing in the Junior B championship rather than the Intermediate Championship but it is a strange turn of events to be honest....

Heard that about O'Connor not getting games in Meath - if true, you'd think someone would have taken two and a half seconds to wonder why??  With any kuck, he'll not get another game here now either
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on July 27, 2010, 07:32:40 PM
Quote from: put-it-up on July 27, 2010, 07:14:44 PM
Quote from: Celt_Man on July 27, 2010, 07:08:57 PM
Quote from: put-it-up on July 27, 2010, 07:03:00 PM
If the Gaels are in Junior B now that is a fecking joke. It goes to show that they only pulled out because they didn't think they could win.

If they go for an inside man it will be Hyland. Three provincial finals with u21's, Juniors and Lavey in one year and I think he was there under Val Andrews when we last had a bit of success.

And as for O'Connor, I won't comment. Is he still wearing the white boots? Apparently he refs over her because Meath won't give him games - not sure if that is true or not

In fairness to the Gaels I think its a bit different - if they had to play 7 or 8 minors to field a team - completing in the Junior B championship rather than the Intermediate Championship but it is a strange turn of events to be honest....

Heard that about O'Connor not getting games in Meath - if true, you'd think someone would have taken two and a half seconds to wonder why??  With any kuck, he'll not get another game here now either

If there are 8 minors startign when that championship comes around I will walk down Cootehill main street naked in broad daylight.
They would rather a junior B title on their shelf rather than making up the numbers in the intermediate IMO.

Mindgames aside CM, I think you now have a massive advantage in that your boys have a championship game under their belts

Jaysus PIU, that first half of that post was mind games enough without the second bit!!  ;D

Of course if we win, the championship win under our belts was a massive advantage if ye win it'll be that you were far fresher having not played the week before!!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Terry Coyle on July 28, 2010, 09:52:46 AM
PIU every post recently from you is anti Gaels so get over it. We dont really care what you think or will ever care what you think.

We should not have been in the intermediate championship in the first place, we didnt even win the Junior. We entered the Junior B to give lads football who have been training all year plus a few lads who will be getting calls to come out of retirement. There will be a few names playing who wouldnt even get on the Bailiborough team and thats saying a lot.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Terry Coyle on July 28, 2010, 09:57:28 AM
And cavan4sam, people at a county board meeting had an opportunity to object if they wanted - Now I am assuming there was a Castlerahan rep there and said nothing.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BigMac on July 28, 2010, 10:14:20 AM
Now now Terry, dont turn this into the Hoganstand with your childish "everyone is against us, but we don't care because it's Gaels against the world and we are going to win anyway, get over it" attitude.  ::)
And please just read over your post, acknowledge it was a bit childish, and forget about it. Dont get into a hissy fit, and start a bitching session.

Any predictions for the games at the weekend lads?
Ballinagh v Lavey - Close to call. Go for a Lavey win.
Denn v Belturbet - Belturbet
Castlerahan v Killygarry - Castlerahan
Lacken v Crosserlough - Lacken
Ramor Utd v Cavan Gaels - Gaels
Kingscourt v Blackwater Gaels - Kingscourt
Cuchulainns v Redhills - Cuchulainns
Gowna v Mullahoran - Local derby. Draw.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Terry Coyle on July 28, 2010, 11:54:35 AM
Quote from: BigMac on July 28, 2010, 10:14:20 AM
Now now Terry, dont turn this into the Hoganstand with your childish "everyone is against us, but we don't care because it's Gaels against the world and we are going to win anyway, get over it" attitude.  ::)
And please just read over your post, acknowledge it was a bit childish, and forget about it. Dont get into a hissy fit, and start a bitching session.


Now when did I turn this into a everyone is against us arguement. I mentioned one person. I wont start a bitching session but this a forum so I'm allowed to voice my opinions. Don't tell me what to write or not to write.

I acknowledged in another post that we fu**ed up. I can totally understand why cavan4sam might be pi**ed off but other lad just got to me. I have calmed down now anyway so we'll move on.

BTW that ref from Meath is a shocker. We had him once for a game and I think both sets of players were going to take the head off him which is a bad sign.

Ballinagh v Lavey - Ballinagh
Denn v Belturbet - Belturbet
Castlerahan v Killygarry - Castlerahan
Lacken v Crosserlough - Lacken
Ramor Utd v Cavan Gaels - Gaels
Kingscourt v Blackwater Gaels - Kingscourt
Cuchulainns v Redhills - Cuchulainns
Gowna v Mullahoran - Mullahoran
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Terry Coyle on July 28, 2010, 01:47:36 PM
OK right we will step back a bit here before everything gets out of hand - I may have crossed the line with that comment so i'll hold my hand up for that. Bad morning today.

Firstly, the root of the problem was when we were placed in to the intermediate. We didnt win the junior championship the year before so we should not be in the intermediate championship. Now I dont know the numbers that we had but after the Senior game on the Friday night I think we had lost a few more which would have resulted in a lot of minors playing. Sure we could have fielded a team but executive was trying to save a lot of minor players from playing in the intermediate. One or two is ok but the numbers they were talking was unacceptable. We can only blame ourselves for this debacle anyway..

With regard to the younger lads learning from it I think it was more of a case of protecting them from a humiliation which may affect their football/confidence in the future.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on July 28, 2010, 02:01:16 PM
Apology accepted.

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Look I don't think you should have been put into the Intermediate either - Personally I could never understand why Swanlinbar were never put up considering they were the beaten finalists.

Anthing more than 5 minors wouldn't be fair on the young lads, I get that, but you just would have gotten more respect from me if you had of fulfilled the fixture regardless of the result or at least given sufficent notice. If you had of gotten the spine of the team together you would have been fine.

I just think the issue of your second team needs to be tightened up completely. I mean we played you in the first round of the league and you had Cormac Nelligan and Martin Dunne playing. Like that is just wrong and unfair.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Terry Coyle on July 28, 2010, 02:16:52 PM
I can understand that frustration and I actually thought it would have been discussed here more. That was the first league game wasnt it and I dont think the seniors were out that weekend.

Few problems here though:

1. Are you talking about changing the rules because we have better players eligible to play second team? Just because a team starts doing well doesnt mean rules should be altered.

2. Any rules change would affect other teams as well, we are lucky that we have the numbers (most of the time :) ) but how would this affect other teams? Not very well I would imagine.

I am guessing your most pressing concern was with the fact that some weekends our seconds is full of senior players, and other weekends its not. Unfortunately, its the luck of the draw from what I see. What better way can we do it?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up on July 28, 2010, 02:25:45 PM
How can you justify Cormac Nelligan (man of the match in the 2009 senior county final) and Martin Dunne (the SFC top scorer) lining out with the seconds though?

I mean they are going to be nowhere near the Intermediate championship team when that time comes so you are stopping the lad that will have to play come championship from playing some league games.

That defeats the whole purpose of a second team in my book.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Terry Coyle on July 28, 2010, 02:45:16 PM
Well we are always going to put out our best team. I dont think there is any shame in that. Other players have plenty of games to prove themselves before championship.

And anyway neither are going to be guaranteed first team players this year. Cormac carrying few injuries and is always  injury prone, and Martin is away and will do well to hold down a regular spot. McClarey is going to be there or there abouts when he is back.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Terry Coyle on July 28, 2010, 03:01:12 PM
Could someone get me a price on Kerry/Tyrone/Cork/Kildare accumulator? Cant get it here at work.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on July 28, 2010, 06:05:03 PM
Is there not a moratorium on playing minors on senior (i.e. over 18 teams) teams so that burnout is minimised?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on July 28, 2010, 06:08:32 PM
Quote from: Denn Forever on July 28, 2010, 06:05:03 PM
Is there not a moratorium on playing minors on senior (i.e. over 18 teams) teams so that burnout is minimised?

Nope only that you can't play 2 grades above your own - Under 16s can't play Seniors
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on July 28, 2010, 06:32:44 PM
Quote from: Celt_Man on July 28, 2010, 06:08:32 PM
Quote from: Denn Forever on July 28, 2010, 06:05:03 PM
Is there not a moratorium on playing minors on senior (i.e. over 18 teams) teams so that burnout is minimised?

Nope only that you can't play 2 grades above your own - Under 16s can't play Seniors

Is U21 not counted as a grade? If not, why not?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on July 28, 2010, 06:52:34 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on July 28, 2010, 06:32:44 PM
Quote from: Celt_Man on July 28, 2010, 06:08:32 PM
Quote from: Denn Forever on July 28, 2010, 06:05:03 PM
Is there not a moratorium on playing minors on senior (i.e. over 18 teams) teams so that burnout is minimised?

Nope only that you can't play 2 grades above your own - Under 16s can't play Seniors

Is U21 not counted as a grade? If not, why not?

well yea Under 16s can't play Under 21s and Seniors
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dougal on July 28, 2010, 06:54:45 PM
Quote from: Celt_Man on July 28, 2010, 06:52:34 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on July 28, 2010, 06:32:44 PM
Quote from: Celt_Man on July 28, 2010, 06:08:32 PM
Quote from: Denn Forever on July 28, 2010, 06:05:03 PM
Is there not a moratorium on playing minors on senior (i.e. over 18 teams) teams so that burnout is minimised?

Nope only that you can't play 2 grades above your own - Under 16s can't play Seniors

Is U21 not counted as a grade? If not, why not?

well yea Under 16s can't play Under 21s and Seniors

i think his point was why can minors play senior,when it's two grades above them.if it wasnt his point,can someone answer it for me.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on July 28, 2010, 07:00:40 PM
Quote from: Dougal on July 28, 2010, 06:54:45 PM
Quote from: Celt_Man on July 28, 2010, 06:52:34 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on July 28, 2010, 06:32:44 PM
Quote from: Celt_Man on July 28, 2010, 06:08:32 PM
Quote from: Denn Forever on July 28, 2010, 06:05:03 PM
Is there not a moratorium on playing minors on senior (i.e. over 18 teams) teams so that burnout is minimised?

Nope only that you can't play 2 grades above your own - Under 16s can't play Seniors

Is U21 not counted as a grade? If not, why not?

well yea Under 16s can't play Under 21s and Seniors

i think his point was why can minors play senior,when it's two grades above them.if it wasnt his point,can someone answer it for me.

I reckon it's because Under 21s is classed as an Adult competition
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on July 28, 2010, 07:26:09 PM
Quote from: Dougal on July 28, 2010, 06:54:45 PM
Quote from: Celt_Man on July 28, 2010, 06:52:34 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on July 28, 2010, 06:32:44 PM
Quote from: Celt_Man on July 28, 2010, 06:08:32 PM
Quote from: Denn Forever on July 28, 2010, 06:05:03 PM
Is there not a moratorium on playing minors on senior (i.e. over 18 teams) teams so that burnout is minimised?

Nope only that you can't play 2 grades above your own - Under 16s can't play Seniors

Is U21 not counted as a grade? If not, why not?

well yea Under 16s can't play Under 21s and Seniors

i think his point was why can minors play senior,when it's two grades above them.if it wasnt his point,can someone answer it for me.

That was my point alright.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: FermGael on July 28, 2010, 07:57:29 PM
Lads what sort of job is Chapman doing this weather in Cavan?
Not to sure which club he is managing
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on July 28, 2010, 08:12:52 PM
Quote from: FermGael on July 28, 2010, 07:57:29 PM
Lads what sort of job is Chapman doing this weather in Cavan?
Not to sure which club he is managing

He is over Mullahorn...
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: FermGael on July 28, 2010, 09:09:04 PM
According to the irish news today he is.
Is the current U-21 manager.

What sort of job has he done with Mullahoran?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on July 28, 2010, 10:30:08 PM
I seen Mullahoran against Belturbet Sunday night,and i wasnt impressed by either to be honest.
Mullahoran should have had the game won at half time,Philip Brady destroyed Damien O Reily at FF,and later Paul went in there and caused havoc with his aerial power,but he missed two goal chances.
Belturbet dominated the second half and Mullahoran were lucky to scrape a draw from a brilliant Enda O Reily free deep into injury time.
i dont like saying it,but i dont think the pick of the two teams would stand a chance against the Gaels,it was dire stuff.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: PhilsJemmysField on July 29, 2010, 09:20:55 AM
Apparently Stephen King and Hyland have amalgamated and are going for the Cavan Job together. Have any of you lads heard anything about that ? 
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BigMac on July 29, 2010, 10:13:25 AM
Oh God PJF please say your joking. This is a backwards step for cavn football if its true. They are stuck in the tactical mindset of the 90's, and football has moved on a lot from that. From personal experience with Hyland, his training methods and tactical approach to a game are basic and outdated.
Also I dont believe in having two men in charge, there needs to be one boss and one selector, or coach, or whatever title you want to give him. But this pairing is not the way to go.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Terry Coyle on July 29, 2010, 11:09:44 AM
Quote from: BigMac on July 29, 2010, 10:13:25 AM
Oh God PJF please say your joking. This is a backwards step for cavn football if its true. They are stuck in the tactical mindset of the 90's, and football has moved on a lot from that. From personal experience with Hyland, his training methods and tactical approach to a game are basic and outdated.
Also I dont believe in having two men in charge, there needs to be one boss and one selector, or coach, or whatever title you want to give him. But this pairing is not the way to go.

Totally agree BigMac - this is a massive leap backwards, never mind a step backwards. I could imagine a lot more players not committing to the panel if this was the case.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on July 29, 2010, 11:18:24 AM
Quote from: Terry Coyle on July 29, 2010, 11:09:44 AM
Quote from: BigMac on July 29, 2010, 10:13:25 AM
Oh God PJF please say your joking. This is a backwards step for cavn football if its true. They are stuck in the tactical mindset of the 90's, and football has moved on a lot from that. From personal experience with Hyland, his training methods and tactical approach to a game are basic and outdated.
Also I dont believe in having two men in charge, there needs to be one boss and one selector, or coach, or whatever title you want to give him. But this pairing is not the way to go.

Totally agree BigMac - this is a massive leap backwards, never mind a step backwards. I could imagine a lot more players not committing to the panel if this was the case.

Well lads, if you think Hyland is bad wait until you get a look at King. In fact, I would say that if Hyland teams up with King he is doing himself serious harm in terms of his chances as I think at this stage most people in the county realise King is a bluffer with hardly any of the traits required for management. If you don't believe me just ask anyone from Belturbet, Killeshandra or Ballymchugh.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BigMac on July 29, 2010, 12:11:30 PM
I dont know anything about Stephen King or his management ability, but if he his bad as everyone is saying then hes not good.
Unfortunaley I think the men at the top of the county board are are not great either and they will just see the top surface, ie what he did with Kileshandra and his exploits as a senior player for cavan 15 years ago, even though most people who are in the know with Kileshandra will know their success was probably mostly down to Junior McKiernan. Because of this I can see them doing the crazy thing and appointing him and Terry.
Also with terry, people looking from the outside, ie county board, will just see, intermediate with lavey, ulster final with lavey, ulster final with U-21s, and leinster final with juniors. They wont sit down and annalise the fact that A) Lavey were very close to winning the intermediate having been beaten in the final by a point or two the previous year, so it wasnt really terrys genius that brought about that win. Then getting to the Ulster final was down to the players massive commitment in 2 games and not Terrys management skills. Anybody who was at these games will agree that laveys 2nd half performance and commitment against Fanad gaels i think was amazing, but this was down to the players desire to win.
With the U-21s, his massive failures in the final to handle Murphy is almost forgotten. We've been saying for years about the great minors we have, so getting to an Ulster final shouldnt really be a massive surprise. (not taking away the achievement from the lads).
With the Juniors, I feel it was basically getting a bunch of very good footballers, and letting them out to play. I know one of our dedicated posters was on the junior panel and I think he will agree.....
I hope I am wrong but something tells me that the County Board are only going to look at the surface - the records, and not the reason for these records, and appoint the two boyos. Really hope im wrong.
The county board could do a lot worse than have a good read through this thread.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Breffni_Yank on July 29, 2010, 08:23:26 PM
Quote from: put-it-up on July 29, 2010, 07:35:39 PM
Quote from: PhilsJemmysField on July 29, 2010, 09:20:55 AM
Apparently Stephen King and Hyland have amalgamated and are going for the Cavan Job together. Have any of you lads heard anything about that ?

Very much doubt that is true.

What is the story with nominations anyway? Every other county seems to be pressing on with the search, yet we have heard nothing.
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Why wouldn't it be true? Terry Hyland has the best managerial record within the county and Stephen is the last Cavan man to lift an Ulster title. Look what Fergal O'Donnell has done in Roscommon.

I was chatting to the Uncle on the phone over the weekend and he said he has heard very little about nominations and that. I imagine we will only really find out who wants it when the County Board set a dealine for nominations
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Swadman on July 29, 2010, 08:51:01 PM
The County chairman was at the Swad v S/Gaels game last Sunday and somebody who was talking to somebody who was talking to him (Gospel so) said there were 4 or 5 names in the hat, Pete McGrath not a front runner, CB likely to favour a Cavan man (men).
MYLES, I will try a few boys I know in K/shandra to see what they may know (just so you can rest easy - or top yourself now)   
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on July 29, 2010, 10:32:12 PM
Quote from: Swadman on July 29, 2010, 08:51:01 PM
The County chairman was at the Swad v S/Gaels game last Sunday and somebody who was talking to somebody who was talking to him (Gospel so) said there were 4 or 5 names in the hat, Pete McGrath not a front runner, CB likely to favour a Cavan man (men).
MYLES, I will try a few boys I know in K/shandra to see what they may know (just so you can rest easy - or top yourself now)   

You don't need to make enquiries. I know that King is mad for the job. You may remember the last time he went he was not even nominated by Killeshandra.

In fairness, if Pete McGrath has thrown his hat in the ring and the County chairman doesn't consider him a "front runner" then we really have the lunatics running the asylum!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on July 29, 2010, 11:08:36 PM
Should King not be looking for the minor or u21 job first if he does want to go into IC management - although I have never heard a good word about him I am afraid.

That worked well for Donal!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on July 30, 2010, 06:53:54 AM
It was said at the CB meeting on Monday night that no manager would be in place before the next meeting which is in September.So they are definitely not going to be rushed into it. They also discussed a scouting team to watch all the Champship games. Where have I heard that before??
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on July 30, 2010, 10:14:33 PM
Another draw according to the Arva Website. 

What price on a Gowna Mullaghoran draw?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on July 30, 2010, 10:29:39 PM
Quote from: Denn Forever on July 30, 2010, 10:14:33 PM
Another draw according to the Arva Website. 

What price on a Gowna Mullaghoran draw?

Yes Denn scored a free with the last kick of the game.Thats 2 games Belturbet should have won had they booted the ball into the stands. Probably a fair result going on the 2nd half.

Drumgoon bet the Bridge well.
Drung bet Ballymachugh by a goal.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: beer baron on July 31, 2010, 12:57:30 AM
Quote from: Denn Forever on July 30, 2010, 10:14:33 PM
Another draw according to the Arva Website. 

What price on a Gowna Mullaghoran draw?

7/1 on pp
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on July 31, 2010, 09:50:58 PM
Castlerahan bet Killygarry
Drumlane bet Knockbride
Drumalee bet Laragh

Who needs the Arva website when ya have Boo
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on July 31, 2010, 10:09:35 PM
King and Hyland? Two wrongs won't make a right.

It amazes me how the manager carries the can and gets short shrift in Cavan all the time yet the cosy confederacy of dunces that appoint them in the first place, ill-considered appointment after ill-considered appointment, never have to answer to anyone.

Monkeys appointing clowns to run a circus and expecting to get a football team.

If they instal this duo, it'll be more of the same, according to all available informed knowledge and opinion both inside the confines of this board and without.

Ach do you know what? I just couldn't give a boillix any more.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on July 31, 2010, 10:22:04 PM
We drew with Bailieboro - sp we're through to the quarters now
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Swadman on August 01, 2010, 12:13:00 PM
Quote from: cavanmaniac on July 31, 2010, 10:09:35 PM
King and Hyland? Two wrongs won't make a right.

It amazes me how the manager carries the can and gets short shrift in Cavan all the time yet the cosy confederacy of dunces that appoint them in the first place, ill-considered appointment after ill-considered appointment, never have to answer to anyone.

Monkeys appointing clowns to run a circus and expecting to get a football team.

If they instal this duo, it'll be more of the same, according to all available informed knowledge and opinion both inside the confines of this board and without.

Ach do you know what? I just couldn't give a boillix any more.
I HAVE TO DISSAGREE FUNDAMENTALLY WITH YOU THERE, Cavan Maniac.
Its Clowns appointing Monkeys to run the circus !!!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on August 01, 2010, 05:46:40 PM
Was in Breffni today to see the Leaguers come back from the dead against Ballyhaise. Ballyhaise were on top for large periods in the 1st half and the 3rd quarter dominating in the middle and managing to isolate Tierney inside on an injured colm duffy. Leaguers were in dissarray when they were 8-3 down and had two men sent off (Paddy King straight red and 2 yellows Daniel Luby) But then Cullivan went off injured. Then Thomais Reilly woke up and kicked two magnificent points along with one from Sean McKiernan to put 2 in it. A wonderful ball from Thomais into Shane Murphy resulted in a penalty which was missed 1st time by Cillian Reilly but ref McQuillan ordered it to be retaken as the goalie encroached on the kicker. He scored the 2nd and the teams swapped points at the end but the leaguers held on. Super win for our lads but B'haise will be kicking themselves for not making more when the were dominating. Some exciting prospects on the Killeshandra team especially Bosco Reilly, Cillian Reilly, Thomais Reilly and Damian Higgins. Best for the Haise were Tierney who was very dangerous and Cullivan in the middle. Group now wide open.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Theobald on August 01, 2010, 06:33:38 PM
I was checking up the Intermediate Championship results there and I see cavan Gaels conceded the result to Bailieboro. What's the story there? Did they pull out of the competition altogether?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on August 01, 2010, 06:51:27 PM
Quote from: Theobald on August 01, 2010, 06:33:38 PM
I was checking up the Intermediate Championship results there and I see cavan Gaels conceded the result to Bailieboro. What's the story there? Did they pull out of the competition altogether?

Yes due to some administration c**k up they are out. See earlier in this thread for much discussion.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Terry Coyle on August 01, 2010, 08:05:25 PM
Drew with Ramor today - poor performance from our lads. Ramor were well up for it and could have won it if they took their goal chance in second half. Leaves us on 3 points, Ballinagh on 3 and Ramor on 2. Lavey out. Tight for second now - we nee to beat Ballinagh so on that will go for Ramor to pip second.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: full moon on August 01, 2010, 08:24:58 PM
Well I think the hype about Mickey G being the new county manager should be put to bed today. Looks like he won't even get Ballyhaise out of the group this year.

Pathetic, and Killeshandra missing Declan McKiernan. Quite clearly have the best panel of players IMO, he isn't getting the best out of them.

Also shows what an utter waste of time League football is in this county.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on August 01, 2010, 08:36:59 PM
Quote from: full moon on August 01, 2010, 08:24:58 PM
Well I think the hype about Mickey G being the new county manager should be put to bed today. Looks like he won't even get Ballyhaise out of the group this year.

Pathetic, and Killeshandra missing Declan McKiernan. Quite clearly have the best panel of players IMO, he isn't getting the best out of them.

Also shows what an utter waste of time League football is in this county.

Cheer up Full Moon. Sure weren't Meath bet so all us not lost. Didn't realise you were from Ballyhaise. Not sure how the leaguers got into the game, I suppose with so many men in front of them when 2 men down they just had to shoot on site and some of the points they got were fantastic. Killeshandras line was poor today and allowed Tierney to be left 1 on 1 with Colm Duffy but even with all the possession they never put enough good balls into him. I still think the Haise can win the last match and force a 3 way tie on 4 pts assuming the Leaguers can beat the Bridge.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: full moon on August 01, 2010, 09:21:42 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on August 01, 2010, 08:36:59 PM
Quote from: full moon on August 01, 2010, 08:24:58 PM
Well I think the hype about Mickey G being the new county manager should be put to bed today. Looks like he won't even get Ballyhaise out of the group this year.

Pathetic, and Killeshandra missing Declan McKiernan. Quite clearly have the best panel of players IMO, he isn't getting the best out of them.

Also shows what an utter waste of time League football is in this county.

Cheer up Full Moon. Sure weren't Meath bet so all us not lost. Didn't realise you were from Ballyhaise. Not sure how the leaguers got into the game, I suppose with so many men in front of them when 2 men down they just had to shoot on site and some of the points they got were fantastic. Killeshandras line was poor today and allowed Tierney to be left 1 on 1 with Colm Duffy but even with all the possession they never put enough good balls into him. I still think the Haise can win the last match and force a 3 way tie on 4 pts assuming the Leaguers can beat the Bridge.

Suppose the Meath defeat was the only plus point. On the 2 games left, after today I fancy Drumgoon to win against us.

And I have heard that even a win may not be enough, that it goes down to points difference so we need to win by a certain high amount. That is assuming ye beat the Brdige, which may not be too easy either if they are up for it.

If changes aren't made in the last game, it's good night Vienna.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: LaurelEye on August 01, 2010, 10:43:58 PM
Mullahoran beat Gowna 15-7.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on August 01, 2010, 10:53:24 PM
dont even want to discuss today,
Fair play to Killeshandra,other teams would have fell apart going down to 13 men.

PS i didnt know full moon was one of us.
i always thought his opinions and posts were on the ball!!!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Swadman on August 02, 2010, 10:48:08 AM
Great result for ye, Myles. Fair play to Killeshandra for battling on and not dropping the heads.
Some teams can be over reliant on one star player and when they are off the field self belief ebbs away. Killeshandra had a couple of weeks to get used to being without Declan McKiernan. We had a month without Gearoid but it takes a couple of games for the rest of the team to realise that THEY have to step up and perform, not sit back and watch the "star" do it for them.
Its unfortunate for ye to loose Declan at this stage in the championship but I hear he a a bad groin injury and might be out for a few months. If everyone else steps up and shows that battling spirit then the loss can be overcome somewhat.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Swadman on August 02, 2010, 10:50:27 AM
Yea, great to see Meath bate, and we turned over the Reds for ye too ;D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Breffni_Yank on August 02, 2010, 02:25:52 PM
The Gaels only drew with Ramor? I know plenty of the younger lads are out here but I wudda thought that they would have enough to get by. Are the likes of Forde still plane?

Is Declan McKiernans injury bad?

Watched the Kildare match in a pub yesterday. They really showed what can be done if a man comes on with a proper idea of what he wants to do with a team. Do we try to find someone like him or will it be Terry Hyland?

Could someone tell me if 2 are still going through from the Killinkere/Cootehill/Bailieboro group? I have been told Yes and No from people at home!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on August 02, 2010, 04:04:56 PM
Quote from: Breffni_Yank on August 02, 2010, 02:25:52 PM
The Gaels only drew with Ramor? I know plenty of the younger lads are out here but I wudda thought that they would have enough to get by. Are the likes of Forde still plane?

Is Declan McKiernans injury bad?

Watched the Kildare match in a pub yesterday. They really showed what can be done if a man comes on with a proper idea of what he wants to do with a team. Do we try to find someone like him or will it be Terry Hyland?

Could someone tell me if 2 are still going through from the Killinkere/Cootehill/Bailieboro group? I have been told Yes and No from people at home!

Yea 2 coming out of each group.  We're through now and Killinkere need to beat Bailieboro to get through, anything else and the Shamrocks will go into the quarters
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on August 02, 2010, 05:20:22 PM
Quote from: Breffni_Yank on August 02, 2010, 02:25:52 PM
The Gaels only drew with Ramor? I know plenty of the younger lads are out here but I wudda thought that they would have enough to get by. Are the likes of Forde still plane?

Is Declan McKiernans injury bad?

Watched the Kildare match in a pub yesterday. They really showed what can be done if a man comes on with a proper idea of what he wants to do with a team. Do we try to find someone like him or will it be Terry Hyland?

Could someone tell me if 2 are still going through from the Killinkere/Cootehill/Bailieboro group? I have been told Yes and No from people at home!

McKiernan has Gilmores groin. Quite disgracefully in the 1st group game against Drumgoon he was started even though he could hardly walk. He asked to come off and management refused, so he played the whole game and him crippled. Now he is out for the rest of the championship. Evidence to see an idiotic attitude to young players is alive and well in the county. Similar yesterday Austin Fitz got a bad knock, could hardly run and was left on for 15 minutes before they did the right thing and subbed him - only then to put him on again with 1 minute left!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on August 02, 2010, 07:20:41 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on August 02, 2010, 05:20:22 PM
Quote from: Breffni_Yank on August 02, 2010, 02:25:52 PM
The Gaels only drew with Ramor? I know plenty of the younger lads are out here but I wudda thought that they would have enough to get by. Are the likes of Forde still plane?

Is Declan McKiernans injury bad?

Watched the Kildare match in a pub yesterday. They really showed what can be done if a man comes on with a proper idea of what he wants to do with a team. Do we try to find someone like him or will it be Terry Hyland?

Could someone tell me if 2 are still going through from the Killinkere/Cootehill/Bailieboro group? I have been told Yes and No from people at home!

McKiernan has Gilmores groin. Quite disgracefully in the 1st group game against Drumgoon he was started even though he could hardly walk. He asked to come off and management refused, so he played the whole game and him crippled. Now he is out for the rest of the championship. Evidence to see an idiotic attitude to young players is alive and well in the county. Similar yesterday Austin Fitz got a bad knock, could hardly run and was left on for 15 minutes before they did the right thing and subbed him - only then to put him on again with 1 minute left!
i seen Declan McKiernan was listed and wondered if Killeshandra would maybe chance him for a last 10 minute job at FF,good to see sense prevailed.
I noticed that about Fitzpatrick too myles,he wasnt taken off and shunted into full forward even though it was clear he wasnt fit to walk.Killeshandra were playing with 14 men for about 10-15 minutes.
What did you think about the killeshandra waterboy striking Colm Reily Myles ??  ::)
hopefully Ray isnt too bad after his knock also.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on August 02, 2010, 07:36:56 PM
I heard McKiernan (who was water boy for the day) struck one of your players and then got a box from cullivan afterwards,it was of the ball so i didn't see it either. I have to say it was a right niggly match and again not for the 1st time it is clear there are serious disciplinary problems with some of our players which management does not seem to be dealing with. You have lads like Colm Duffy, Adie Burns that play honest hard ball but never get involved in that sort of crap and then you have young lads in their early 20's always leaving the boot in when they get a chance. I know rightly where it has come from but this management have to sort it our or it could cost them big one day.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on August 02, 2010, 07:42:24 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on August 02, 2010, 07:36:56 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on August 02, 2010, 07:20:41 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on August 02, 2010, 05:20:22 PM
Quote from: Breffni_Yank on August 02, 2010, 02:25:52 PM
The Gaels only drew with Ramor? I know plenty of the younger lads are out here but I wudda thought that they would have enough to get by. Are the likes of Forde still plane?

Is Declan McKiernans injury bad?

Watched the Kildare match in a pub yesterday. They really showed what can be done if a man comes on with a proper idea of what he wants to do with a team. Do we try to find someone like him or will it be Terry Hyland?

Could someone tell me if 2 are still going through from the Killinkere/Cootehill/Bailieboro group? I have been told Yes and No from people at home!

McKiernan has Gilmores groin. Quite disgracefully in the 1st group game against Drumgoon he was started even though he could hardly walk. He asked to come off and management refused, so he played the whole game and him crippled. Now he is out for the rest of the championship. Evidence to see an idiotic attitude to young players is alive and well in the county. Similar yesterday Austin Fitz got a bad knock, could hardly run and was left on for 15 minutes before they did the right thing and subbed him - only then to put him on again with 1 minute left!
i seen Declan McKiernan was listed and wondered if Killeshandra would maybe chance him for a last 10 minute job at FF,good to see sense prevailed.
I noticed that about Fitzpatrick too myles,he wasnt taken off and shunted into full forward even though it was clear he wasnt fit to walk.Killeshandra were playing with 14 men for about 10-15 minutes.
What did you think about the killeshandra waterboy striking Colm Reily Myles ??  ::) ,
hopefully Ray isnt too bad after his knock also.

Not  sure what you are on about there bhm, i didn't see  any of our management team hit anyone and none of the managers/selectors have sons playing (pm me the details if you like). I heard McKiernan (who was water boy for the day) struck one of your players and then got a box from cullivan afterwards,it was of the ball so i didn't see it either. I have to say it was a right niggly match and again not for the 1st time it is clear there are serious disciplinary problems with some of our players which management does not seem to be dealing with. You have lads like Colm Duffy, Adie Burns that play honest hard ball but never get involved in that sort of crap and then you have young lads in their early 20's always leaving the boot in when they get a chance. I know rightly where it has come from but this management have to sort it our or it could cost them big one day.

ah that was the lad i was talking about,i thought he was a part of the management as he was along the line in beside Killeshandra dugouts.
il retract that bit,if ya dont mind,deleting it from your quote,dont want to label the selectors/management for something they didnt do.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on August 02, 2010, 07:52:17 PM
BHM - All clear except from the bit in the middle of quoted text in your last post. Revising posts is tiresome!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: full moon on August 02, 2010, 08:43:58 PM
Again not to drag names into but I believe it was Mcrudden that struck out at McKiernan not Cullivan.

Agree with your other point there Myles, I believe the Kind red card in the second half was completely stupid. No need for it at all and nearly cost ye the championship.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: full moon on August 02, 2010, 09:09:17 PM
Heard some results from the Minor Championship today.


Killan Gaels defeated Lavey

Ramor defeated Cavan Gaels by 1 point

Both league finalists knocked out in the QF.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on August 03, 2010, 07:22:17 PM
Only getting back to myself now after a tough few days...

Can't believe Ballyhaise shot themselves in the foot on Sunday, fair play to Killeshandra at the same time though.  Was at the Goonie - Bridge game on Friday, they had an impressive winning margin without being terribly impressive - if that makes any sense.  Bridge missed 2 - 1 just after the break when they were 4 down, they were never gonna get anything from the game

Am I right in saying that Ballyhaise need to beat Drumgoon by 7 or more to get into the quarter finals??
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on August 04, 2010, 12:52:10 AM
Quote from: Celt_Man on August 03, 2010, 07:22:17 PM
Only getting back to myself now after a tough few days...

Can't believe Ballyhaise shot themselves in the foot on Sunday, fair play to Killeshandra at the same time though.  Was at the Goonie - Bridge game on Friday, they had an impressive winning margin without being terribly impressive - if that makes any sense.  Bridge missed 2 - 1 just after the break when they were 4 down, they were never gonna get anything from the game

Am I right in saying that Ballyhaise need to beat Drumgoon by 7 or more to get into the quarter finals??
something like that CM
all 4 teams can actually still qualify for the quarter finals,there could be a 3 way playoff between ourselves,Bridge,Killeshandra,if goonies beat us and bridge beat k'shandra.However if Ballyhaise beat Drumgoon and K'shandra beat B'bridge,B'haise have to win by a certain amount to get through.Thats what i was told tonight at training anyway,im still confused over it  :P.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on August 04, 2010, 12:53:52 AM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on August 04, 2010, 12:52:10 AM
Quote from: Celt_Man on August 03, 2010, 07:22:17 PM
Only getting back to myself now after a tough few days...

Can't believe Ballyhaise shot themselves in the foot on Sunday, fair play to Killeshandra at the same time though.  Was at the Goonie - Bridge game on Friday, they had an impressive winning margin without being terribly impressive - if that makes any sense.  Bridge missed 2 - 1 just after the break when they were 4 down, they were never gonna get anything from the game

Am I right in saying that Ballyhaise need to beat Drumgoon by 7 or more to get into the quarter finals??
something like that CM
all 4 teams can actually still qualify for the quarter finals,there could be a 3 way playoff between ourselves,Bridge,Killeshandra,if goonies beat us and bridge beat k'shandra.However if Ballyhaise beat Drumgoon and K'shandra beat B'bridge,B'haise have to win by a certain amount.Thats what i was told tonight at training anyway.

i.e. it's a clusterfuck... gonna be some calculating done along the sidelines of the two matches...
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Swadman on August 04, 2010, 07:49:59 AM
Could Joe Kiernan's name be in the hat now? Just heard he might get gate from Galway tonight.
Do we want him? Too expensive? (not a Cavan man ::))flopped with the tribesmen.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on August 04, 2010, 10:51:43 AM
Cavan doesn't deserve someone of the stature of Joe Kernan but I'd have him in a flash. Understands the levels required to win a modern All-Ireland - he probably invented a good few of them - and he didn't do too badly with Galway when you consider the length of time he got to impose what was going to be a very different way of doing things there. I'm very surprised he's gone so soon.

I think even our primadonnas would respect him and work for him, and he'd put a regime in place that any unconvinced players would be happy to join, in terms of professionalism.

I'm not saying he's our saviour but we could do an awful lot worse - King, Hyland etc. - at this point in time. Kernan could at least get us competing again and playing to out full potential inside two years.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on August 04, 2010, 12:07:39 PM
Quote from: cavanmaniac on August 04, 2010, 10:51:43 AM
Kernan could at least get us competing again and playing to out full potential inside two years.

I'd love to see him but would he get 2 years?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on August 04, 2010, 12:58:29 PM
Quote from: full moon on August 02, 2010, 09:09:17 PM
Heard some results from the Minor Championship today.


Killan Gaels defeated Lavey

Ramor defeated Cavan Gaels by 1 point
Both league finalists knocked out in the QF.

Whats happening there? I heard yesterday that it will be replayed.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Terry Coyle on August 04, 2010, 01:33:01 PM
Heard its going to be replayed as well. Seemingly referee put a score down for Ramor instead of the Gaels. Announced at end of game Ramor won by two, but then later noted he had made a mistake.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on August 04, 2010, 02:36:38 PM
Quote from: Denn Forever on August 04, 2010, 12:07:39 PM
Quote from: cavanmaniac on August 04, 2010, 10:51:43 AM
Kernan could at least get us competing again and playing to out full potential inside two years.

I'd love to see him but would he get 2 years?
Kernan would be the biggest name appointee since Eamon Coleman(RIP).
He would get as long as was needed.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Breffni_Yank on August 04, 2010, 09:33:04 PM
What news from the East.

I read on the Independent's website that Joe is going but I doubt hes gonna want to take over us to be honest.
Wud be an interesting option but I just cant see him coaching in the same province as all the sons.

County Board released any info yet. Every county seems to be pressing ahead in their seach bar us...Are we gonna miss all the good managers? To me the lack of urgency meant we were getting a local man this time,

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on August 04, 2010, 11:07:53 PM
Didn't stop Baker (but I don't think Antrim played Derry).

No word here but Boojangles said that word in the CB is that no appointment until September.  Hope thast wrong.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on August 05, 2010, 10:59:59 AM
Kernan cost Galway over 100k between all the travelling and "expenses", taking into account that he is a lot closer to Cavan so less travel I expect Cavan will need to fork out 60-70k for him each year. Do we have that sort of money these days? Also, Kernan is on record as saying he would not like to manage an Ulster team for fear of coming up against his sons in Armagh. I think the chances of him taking over Cavan are very very slight. I'd say some Leinster team might be more likely to go with him.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on August 05, 2010, 01:04:51 PM
Quote from: boojangles on July 27, 2010, 04:21:37 PM
Quote from: cavan4sam on July 27, 2010, 02:32:06 PM
Lads did ye hear that Cavan Gaels are now entered into the Junior B championship and we (Castlerahan) have to play them as Redhills are unable to field a team. What do the rest of ye think of this?

If your team is as strong as it was last year you's should have no problems. Best B team I'v seen.


Wednesday 04th August 2010

Hotel Kilmore Junior B Special Competition
   
Cavan Gaels  0-12 0-7 Castlerahan  Cavan Gaels

I'm guessing C4Sam ain't a happy bunny today.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Swadman on August 05, 2010, 01:40:56 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on August 05, 2010, 10:59:59 AM
Kernan cost Galway over 100k between all the travelling and "expenses", .... I expect Cavan will need to fork out 60-70k for him each year. ..........Kernan is on record as saying he would not like to manage an Ulster team for fear of coming up against his sons in Armagh. ...
He wont go back to Connaught (sooner Hell ;D)Munster very unlikely and if no Leinster county looks for him then I would say he will take an Ulster team, sons or not. Joe will go where the sound of "Ker-ching" is heard. I know we are not as flush as in previous years but when I think of what money was wasted...........Aarghhhh!!!!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on August 05, 2010, 10:48:56 PM
I wonder are the funds available to pay for an top outside manager like Kernan,
The rumour was that Carr was on 40K a year,both years,i dont know how accurate that was.
McElkennon/Cassidy combo before that,were rumoured to be about 60K between them.
With Kingspan's business having taken a hit due to the recession,and the Dublin supporters club's large contribution (they have done an unbelieveable job fundraising over the years) undoubtedly down from what it was a few years ago(recession again),id have my doubts whether the large sums of money we have thrown at managers over the last decade is available for this appointment.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on August 05, 2010, 11:07:05 PM
Its lucky that the GAA is amateur.

Has the taxman ever gone after IC managers?

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on August 05, 2010, 11:10:29 PM
It's all done through expenses like mileage. Very hard for the taxman to do anything. Supposedly micko got audited once and they could find nothing
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Breffni_Yank on August 05, 2010, 11:12:04 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on August 05, 2010, 10:48:56 PM
I wonder are the funds available to pay for an top outside manager like Kernan,
The rumour was that Carr was on 40K a year,both years,i dont know how accurate that was.
McElkennon/Cassidy combo before that,were rumoured to be about 60K between them.
With Kingspan's business having taken a hit due to the recession,and the Dublin supporters club's large contribution (they have done an unbelieveable job fundraising over the years) undoubtedly down from what it was a few years ago(recession again),id have my doubts whether the large sums of money we have thrown at managers over the last decade is available for this appointment.

Did we really pay that much? That is sick...Just luck at the return we got.
I dunno maybe its time we stopped handin out that money and got someone in that wants to do the job and give him a few expenses rater dan huge amounts. My gut tells us to go wit either someone young like Canavan or someone or a Cavan man.

Just warning ya's plenty of the bunch that were over here have started to go back home to their clubs. Only a few of us left  ;D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: full moon on August 05, 2010, 11:28:06 PM
If Carr was on 40k a year, what on earth are the good managers on?  ???

Myles says Kernan 100k at Galway..... :o

f**king hell what a disgrace those figures are. Do these managers have normal jobs?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Breffni_Yank on August 05, 2010, 11:32:28 PM
Quote from: full moon on August 05, 2010, 11:28:06 PM
If Carr was on 40k a year, what on earth are the good managers on?  ???

Myles says Kernan 100k at Galway..... :o

f**king hell what a disgrace those figures are. Do these managers have normal jobs?

Why bother playing if you can get paid that much for being a manager? Management is the way to go lads ;D The amount of bluffers that get paid at club level is beyond a joke. I mean in haf the cases their own club's wouldnt hav them.....

Carr had his hands in all sorts of stuff. Cleaned up I reckon. Hat's off to him. He has made the most of himself in that regard. I think his IC managemtn days might be up though.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4sam on August 06, 2010, 09:37:29 AM
Quote from: boojangles on August 05, 2010, 01:04:51 PM
Quote from: boojangles on July 27, 2010, 04:21:37 PM
Quote from: cavan4sam on July 27, 2010, 02:32:06 PM
Lads did ye hear that Cavan Gaels are now entered into the Junior B championship and we (Castlerahan) have to play them as Redhills are unable to field a team. What do the rest of ye think of this?

If your team is as strong as it was last year you's should have no problems. Best B team I'v seen.


Wednesday 04th August 2010

Hotel Kilmore Junior B Special Competition
   
Cavan Gaels  0-12 0-7 Castlerahan  Cavan Gaels

I'm guessing C4Sam ain't a happy bunny today.

Ah was a bit pissed pff over how the whole thing was done but at the end of the day the better team won and fair play to them. We were never going to win it this year anyway but if the draw had still been Redhills and Crosserlough I would have been looking at maybe a semi final.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on August 06, 2010, 12:44:56 PM
Quote from: full moon on August 05, 2010, 11:28:06 PM
If Carr was on 40k a year, what on earth are the good managers on?  ???

Myles says Kernan 100k at Galway..... :o

f**king hell what a disgrace those figures are. Do these managers have normal jobs?

In fairness he didn't the whole 100k into his pocket, thats what it cost the co board to have him. They were putting him on Aer Arann flights and hotels and the like. I'm sure he got a nice chunk of it all the same.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: handballer09 on August 06, 2010, 09:51:10 PM

http://www.anglocelt.ie/sport/matchreports/articles/2010/08/06/3999145-gaels-survive-late-scare/


Cavan Gaels 0-13
Ballinagh 1-8

Cavan Gaels held off a spirited late rally from Ballinagh to advance to the last eight of the 2010 SFC by two points at a rain-sodden Breffni Park this evening (Friday).
The Gaels led 4-0 after three minutes thanks to a couple of fine scores from Sean Johnston but Ballinagh rallied well and went in just two down, 0-6 to 0-4, at the break.
However, the champions - who lost full forward Nicholas Walsh to injury after 15 minutes - pulled away in the third quarter, with points from Niall Murray and Niall Smith.
Up 0-11 to 0-4, it looked as if the Gaels would go through safely but Ballinagh rallied well and a couple of Niall McDermott frees and an injury time goal from sub Enda Brady brought them to within two.
But Cavan Gaels, for whom Cathal Collins was outstanding at full-back, held on to go through.
Meanwhile, there were wins for Ramor over Lavey and Mountnugent, Munterconnacht and Ballyconnell First Ulsters.
See anglocelt.ie for more updates as they happen over the weekend.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on August 06, 2010, 10:52:56 PM
Tonight's results

Cavan Gaels  0-13 1-8 Ballinagh 
Lavey  1-8 2-12 Ramor United 

Hotel Kilmore Junior Football Championship Group 1
Swanlinbar  0-9 2-16 Munterconnacht 
Shannon Gaels  1-12 0-6 Cornafean 

Hotel Kilmore Junior Football Championship Group 2
Corlough  0-3 2-8 Kildallan   
Arva  0-11 0-13 Mountnugent   
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on August 07, 2010, 09:20:28 PM
Ballymachugh beat Knockbride by a point and Shercock hammered Templeport there this evening.  Kill beat Laragh by a goal in our place earlier

any more results?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on August 07, 2010, 09:31:23 PM
Drumlane beat Drung finished about 2-11 to 1-08/1-09,something like that.
Killygarry 1-13 Lacken 1-14(very enjoyable game)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: handballer09 on August 07, 2010, 09:42:54 PM
http://www.anglocelt.ie/sport/matchreports/articles/2010/08/07/3999150-lacken-march-on/

Lacken 1-14
Killygarry 1-13

Two magnificent free-kicks, one from 45 metres out and the second from 50, from Ray Galligan in the dying seconds saw Lacken take a deserved win and send 2009 semi-finalists Killygarry crashing out of the SFC at Breffni Park tonight (Sat).
Lacken led by a goal at the break thanks to a well-taken strike from Galligan with the last kick of the first half, but Killygarry rallied well and with Martin Reilly causing problems and Stephen McGovern on form from frees, they pulled ahead with time running out.
Enter Galligan. The rangy full-forward who, along with Trevor Crowe and Micheál Shanaghy, was outstanding for the Sky Blues, levelled it up with a 45-metre free before sending over the winner from all of 50 metres with time almost up.
Killygarry came again, Reilly hitting the upright with a fisted effort but a draw wouldn't have done them in any case; Lacken march on.
Earlier, Drumlane were highly impressive in disposing of Drung, with Barry Corrigan netting a first half penalty and John Fitzpatrick burying another in the second half.
Drung came back into the match well but it wasn't enough to keep them in the championship - Knockbride advance, despite losing narrowly to Ballymachugh.
More results to follow.

See anglocelt.ie tomorrow night for the full championship draw.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on August 08, 2010, 04:24:42 PM
Drumgoon winning by 2 with a couple of minutes to go and Killeshandra were winning well against the Bridge - so that's Goonies and Killeshandra through and Ballyhaise are out.

And I see Bailieboro beat Killinkere by 3 points so that's the Shamrocks through.

So the quarter finalists....
Cootehill
Bailieboro
Drumlane
Knockbride
Kill
Drumalee
Drumgoon
Killeshandra
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on August 08, 2010, 04:28:19 PM
Anyone know what time the draw for the Quarter Final is?  Think it's gonna be up on anglocelt.ie this evening maybe??
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dougal on August 08, 2010, 04:53:37 PM
draw will be made after the redhills kingscourt match id say,so about 9 o clock.

good win for us today,hopefully we can keep up this kind of form and we should fit to win another game or two depending on the draw.some tough teams left in it,could be a couple of real tight games.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on August 08, 2010, 04:56:13 PM
Back to the drawing board,congrats to the Goonies and the K'shandra lads Dougal and Myles and best of luck in the qf's.
At least next year,the hype and inflated  non sensical expectations will be gone.

See you all in about 2 months,just pissed off with this football crap at the moment.  ???
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: beer baron on August 08, 2010, 05:36:09 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on August 08, 2010, 04:56:13 PM
Back to the drawing board,congrats to the Goonies and the K'shandra lads Dougal and Myles and best of luck in the qf's.
At least next year,the hype and inflated  non sensical expectations will be gone.

See you all in about 2 months,just pissed off with this football crap at the moment.  ???

Go on the tear,go buck mad,get full as a monkey,and will do you wonders-deadly serious!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: full moon on August 08, 2010, 06:10:22 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on August 08, 2010, 04:56:13 PM
Back to the drawing board,congrats to the Goonies and the K'shandra lads Dougal and Myles and best of luck in the qf's.
At least next year,the hype and inflated  non sensical expectations will be gone.

See you all in about 2 months,just pissed off with this football crap at the moment.  ???

I agree the expectations proved to be too much in the end. The amount of people who had us as clear favourites was surprising.
And if we take a step back in fairness we have had the toughest group by far for 2 years running which has done us no favours.

There is something seriously wrong though when we can look so good in the league and be so bad in the Championship. I personally think too many teams don't care about the league, just the Championship and the level of intensity is a different world.

The writing was on the wall after the first game when you look back.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: handballer09 on August 08, 2010, 06:14:09 PM
Wins for Drumgoon, Mullahoran and Killeshandra.

http://www.anglocelt.ie/sport/matchreports/articles/2010/08/08/3999151-wins-for-mullahoran-drumgoon-and-killeshandra/
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on August 08, 2010, 06:28:42 PM
Mullahorn through and Denn out - any word on Gowna Belturbet game?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: beer baron on August 08, 2010, 06:44:27 PM
Gowna beat belturbet  :o
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dougal on August 08, 2010, 06:44:56 PM
gowna won by 3.so mullahoran and gowna go through.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: handballer09 on August 08, 2010, 09:39:46 PM
Kingscourt 1-14
Redhills 0-10

Kingscourt Stars booked thier places in the quarter-finals of the SFC with a comfortable win over Redhills.
A superb goal from Man of the Match Bary Reilly in the first half propelled the Stars into a five-point half-time lead but Redhills, spurred on by the excellent Packie Leddy at midfield, made a game of it in the third quarter.
However, the Stars always had an extra gear when needed and reeled off a handful of late points to win easily.

Full championship draws on anglocelt.ie now:

http://www.anglocelt.ie/sport/localgaa/articles/2010/08/08/3999154-championship-draws-announced/
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dougal on August 08, 2010, 09:43:56 PM
bring on them f**kers from down the road...i wasnt going to be happy unless we met them at some stage this season.

on second thoughts,how do us and cootehill both have drumlane,someone please clear this up quickly before i have a heart attack  :o :o :o
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on August 08, 2010, 09:46:01 PM
Quote from: Dougal on August 08, 2010, 09:43:56 PM
bring on them f**kers from down the road...i wasnt going to be happy unless we met them at some stage this season.

on second thoughts,how do us and cootehill both have drumlane,someone please clear this up quickly before i have a heart attack  :o :o :o

We're Drumalee horse
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Theobald on August 08, 2010, 09:47:47 PM
Bailieboro v Kill..... Best we could have hoped for.... Am i right??
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dougal on August 08, 2010, 09:51:50 PM
when are the quarters???

kill beat drumalee and laragh in the groups,but probably one of the weaker teams alright.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: beer baron on August 08, 2010, 09:56:37 PM
Quote from: Theobald on August 08, 2010, 09:47:47 PM
Bailieboro v Kill..... Best we could have hoped for.... Am i right??

Probably would be one of the supposed 'weaker' sides but i've seen them play few times this year and they're very workmanlike,every man working hard for each other,Mc Kennas still got a lot to offer,few decent small forwards and then they've young tiernan as a big target man on the square too who's a decent outlet!They'll definitely give anyone they play a good game anyway!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dougal on August 09, 2010, 01:43:14 PM
Win Only

Cavan Gaels  1.53 

Kingscourt  6.00 

Castlerahan  7.00 

Mullahoran  9.00 

Ramor Utd  12.00 

Lacken  15.00 

Cuchulainn  21.00 

Gowna  34.00 

kingscourt second favourites?anyone else think thats a bit mad?id fancy mullahoran to beat crahan aswel.id also rate gowna higher than cuchulainns on a normal day,never mind when the cucus are playing the gaels.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4sam on August 09, 2010, 04:55:12 PM
Quote from: Dougal on August 09, 2010, 01:43:14 PM
Win Only

Cavan Gaels  1.53 

Kingscourt  6.00 

Castlerahan  7.00 

Mullahoran  9.00 

Ramor Utd  12.00 

Lacken  15.00 

Cuchulainn  21.00 

Gowna  34.00 

kingscourt second favourites?anyone else think thats a bit mad?id fancy mullahoran to beat crahan aswel.id also rate gowna higher than cuchulainns on a normal day,never mind when the cucus are playing the gaels.

Would definitely have Mullahoran to beat us in the quarter final at the min, anybody that has seen Castlerahan so far will tell you that. Three weeks is a long time though so if we can fire on the day and if Mackey actually shows any interest we might give them a fright.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cogito on August 10, 2010, 12:40:52 PM
On the back page of today's Star it say's Pillar Caffrey has been approached for the job down there.

Just thought I'ld tell you encase you don't get the Daily papers down there  ;D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on August 10, 2010, 03:39:10 PM
It is now reported in the Hoganstand so it must be true.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on August 10, 2010, 04:17:37 PM
Anybody hear the dates for the Championship Quarter Finals yet? I presume they were made last night.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on August 10, 2010, 04:21:10 PM
Quote from: boojangles on August 10, 2010, 04:17:37 PM
Anybody hear the dates for the Championship Quarter Finals yet? I presume they were made last night.

Na they are being finalised next Monday night
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on August 10, 2010, 07:29:39 PM
I think all ball is off til the week after the Fleadh so that's a three week break minimum. Will the play off all three levels the same weekend I wonder. Dont' see why not. The Star and HS saying the same thing. Done deal. ::)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on August 14, 2010, 08:41:51 PM
Gone very quiet here these days...

Knockbride beat Ballyhaise with an injury time goal in the Div 2 semi final in our place earlier today.  Very entertaining game with some great scores from both sides

Ballyhaise and Bailieboro drew in the Junior semi final afterwards
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Swadman on August 15, 2010, 09:44:10 AM
Leitrim hurling club Sean O'Heslin's (Ballinamore) have been stripped of their All-Ireland Feile na nGael Division 6 crown after the club was found to have fielded illegal players in their triumph.
The Ballinamore-based club won the All-Ireland Feile title in Clare in June, but following an objection from Cavan club St. Felim's,(Lacken/Balliangh) club chairman Peter Reynolds and secretary Paddy Connaughton were both handed 48-week suspensions, while seven players were also banned.

St. Felim's had lodged an objection on the basis that seven members of the Ballinamore team are members of Dernacrieve Gaels.(Swanlinbar & Corlough)

The Swad and Corlough boys all go to school in Ballinamore and have been playing hurling there since the begining of the year but this was common knowledge in underage hurling circles. Lackens objection was that they should have been with a Cavan club if there was no hurling in Swad/Corlough but the O'Heslin's club was nearer and all their school buddies were there. Lacken only objected after O'Heslins won the Final (Div6) after beating the team that had beaten St.Felim's in the semi.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: beer baron on August 15, 2010, 02:41:32 PM
Quote from: Swadman on August 15, 2010, 09:44:10 AM
Leitrim hurling club Sean O'Heslin's (Ballinamore) have been stripped of their All-Ireland Feile na nGael Division 6 crown after the club was found to have fielded illegal players in their triumph.
The Ballinamore-based club won the All-Ireland Feile title in Clare in June, but following an objection from Cavan club St. Felim's,(Lacken/Balliangh) club chairman Peter Reynolds and secretary Paddy Connaughton were both handed 48-week suspensions, while seven players were also banned.

St. Felim's had lodged an objection on the basis that seven members of the Ballinamore team are members of Dernacrieve Gaels.(Swanlinbar & Corlough)

The Swad and Corlough boys all go to school in Ballinamore and have been playing hurling there since the begining of the year but this was common knowledge in underage hurling circles. Lackens objection was that they should have been with a Cavan club if there was no hurling in Swad/Corlough but the O'Heslin's club was nearer and all their school buddies were there. Lacken only objected after O'Heslins won the Final (Div6) after beating the team that had beaten St.Felim's in the semi.

Fecking gobshites!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on August 15, 2010, 09:53:23 PM
Drumlane beat the Goonies earlier today in the other Div 2 semi final by 4 points.  2 - 8 to 10 points - heard nothing else about it

Knockbride v Drumlane final so
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dougal on August 16, 2010, 02:13:07 PM
goonies were missing hannon and fannin.drumlane were very good in the 1st half but were poor enough in the second,which they seem to be doing in most games.

ballyconnell were celebrating their 125 year anniversary so there was a bar set up.great day for a few pints and a football match yesterday.  ;D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on August 16, 2010, 02:48:42 PM
Quote from: Dougal on August 16, 2010, 02:13:07 PM
goonies were missing hannon and fannin.drumlane were very good in the 1st half but were poor enough in the second,which they seem to be doing in most games.

ballyconnell were celebrating their 125 year anniversary so there was a bar set up.great day for a few pints and a football match yesterday.  ;D
oh right that sense now that the game was on up there and not somewhere between the two clubs
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Kingscourt Stars on August 17, 2010, 07:40:21 PM
Lads,

Sorry for the plug and am sure plenty of clubs are doing this kind of draw, but given that you can buy ours through the website, ye might be interested, or perhaps e-mail on the link to someone ye know from the four remaining counties, or indeed any GAA fan.

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First prize is Two Tickets to the All-Ireland Senior Football Final along with overnight accommodation in the Skylon Hotel and €200 spending money. There are further cash prizes all the way down to 8th place.

All told, a prize well worth winning so why not try your luck and simultaneously help support all the good work that the many volunteers at underage level put in, not to mention the dedication of the young players as well.

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By the way, thanks to those who were complimenting us last month on the live streaming. The Gowna match especially went very well and we hope to get another game (venue permitting) by the end of the year
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on August 18, 2010, 03:50:48 PM
KS, why don't you put that on the main GAA board as it would be read by more people from the 4 counties involved.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on August 18, 2010, 04:21:14 PM
Quote from: Denn Forever on August 18, 2010, 03:50:48 PM
KS, why don't you put that on the main GAA board as it would be read by more people from the 4 counties involved.

He did as well... no harm in throwing it up here too
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Kingscourt Stars on August 18, 2010, 06:56:27 PM
Denn & Celt,

Cheers, yeah already did so, and opened up a can of worms there, although all uncalled for really. 

Hopefully we'll get a few local sales also, already have one in from Ballyhaise via the website. As I said, a prize worth winning, and as it can be done by the click of a button, why not...
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Breffni_Yank on August 18, 2010, 09:44:26 PM
I'll have to change this username of mine cos im back this side of the Atlantic.

The whole thing back home seems up in the air..nobody knows whats going on? Inside or outside manager??? Are anyone even watching championship games for next year.

I hope to get around to a few of the quarter-finals to have a look for myself............

I honestly think this manageri appointment is the most important decision Cavan football has had to make in recent times.



Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on August 19, 2010, 09:06:25 PM
Wednesday 18th August 2010

Farnham Arms Hotel Minor Championship Division 1
Team 1 Score Score Team 2 Venue Comment   
Killan Gaels  1-4 0-8 St. Josephs  Stradone Semi-Final 
Gowna St. Mels  - - Ramor United  Gowna Conceded by Gowna St. Mels


The above taken from St Pats Arva results service. Somebody tell me theres a mistake there, a county minor division 1 semi final CONCEDED?!!!! WTF
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on August 19, 2010, 09:22:36 PM
Quote from: anglocelt39 on August 19, 2010, 09:06:25 PM
Wednesday 18th August 2010

Farnham Arms Hotel Minor Championship Division 1
Team 1 Score Score Team 2 Venue Comment   
Killan Gaels  1-4 0-8 St. Josephs  Stradone Semi-Final 
Gowna St. Mels  - - Ramor United  Gowna Conceded by Gowna St. Mels


The above taken from St Pats Arva results service. Somebody tell me theres a mistake there, a county minor division 1 semi final CONCEDED?!!!! WTF

Na Ramor were beaten already in the championship so I guess that game is in the Shield competition
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Kingscourt Stars on August 20, 2010, 06:25:15 PM
For whatever reason the fixtures/results for the 16s & Minor C'Ships nothing signify between C'Ship and Shield.  I made a similar mistake with a 16 fixture earlier after we'd already been beaten.  Bit confusing all the same
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on August 23, 2010, 08:25:08 PM
This was posted on Hoganstand, would be better posted here I think....

Biggest Sports History Project in the World comes to Cavan

The history of the GAA in Cavan is the focus of a major history project about to be carried out. The GAA Oral History Project is one of the biggest sporting history projects ever undertaken in the world and will leave a remarkable legacy for future generations.

Commissioned by the GAA and being carried out by a team based at Boston College-Ireland, the project is collecting a unique body of material that will ultimately be stored at the GAA Museum in Croke Park.

Already hundreds of interviews have been carried out across Ireland and overseas and an extraordinary collection of documents and photographs has been put together. Some of this material has already been used in the best-selling book, The GAA: A People's History which was written by the project's directors, Mike Cronin, Mark Duncan and Paul Rouse.

Now, the plan is to record the history of the GAA in Cavan.

A researcher from the project, Arlene Crampsie, is coming to Cavan this month. Arlene is looking for people to record interviews with, including GAA members and supporters and anyone who has ever had any contact or involvement with the GAA.

In addition to recording interviews, and in order to reach the largest number of people possible, the GAA Oral History Project is also providing questionnaires for people to fill out or people can simply send the project a letter or email about the place of the GAA in their lives.

The ambition of the project is that people from every parish, from every club and from every school will contribute, either by doing an interview, filling out a questionnaire, writing a letter or donating material. The project also aims to collect the memories of the members of all the organisations under the umbrella of the GAA, including Ladies Football, Camogie, Handball, Rounders and Scόr.

The responses collected will allow current and future family members of participants to hear and see their ancestors, to view their handwriting, to learn about how they lived and the place of the GAA in their lives.

We are hoping to gather photographs, videos and recordings of the social life surrounding the GAA, whether they are of families having a picnic on the way to or from a match, of spectators at a match, of supporters on the train or bus to a match, of homecoming celebrations and commiserations, or of social events.

We are also hoping to collect posters, letters, songs, poems and prayers relating to the GAA. We would like material relating to social events organised around the GAA, records and minute books, correspondence and financial material from counties and clubs and anything which tells us the stories of the people behind the organisation.

As this project is developing a digital archive, you do not necessarily have to donate the material permanently. The project will take the items on loan for a short time, digitise them and then return them. Some of the material that has already been collected can be seen on the website www.gaahistory.com link.

The project also hopes to involve as many primary and secondary school children as possible. Special curriculum-based packs have been designed to help teachers and students who wish to take part.

Finally, the project is looking for people to volunteer to help carry out its work.

For further information on any aspect of the project, please contact Arlene Crampsie on +353 1 614 7456 or contact the office of the GAA Oral History Project Team on +353 1 662 5055. You can write to the project at GAA Oral History Project, 42 St Stephen's Green, Dublin 2, or send an email to info@gaahistory.com.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4sam on August 23, 2010, 11:23:06 PM
Just heard a rumour that Val Andrews is back in the hotseat???

Anyone able to confirm or deny this???
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on August 24, 2010, 07:55:45 AM
According to RTE Radio 1 news it is going to be announced that Andrews and Hyland are going to be annouced as joint managers. Not sure what to make out of that to be honest.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on August 24, 2010, 08:40:16 AM
http://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-football/andrews-waits-on-clubs-to-seal-surprise-cavan-return-2308904.html
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dougal on August 24, 2010, 08:46:57 AM
its still up to the clubs to decide whether they want him or not.not overly impressed,thought we could do better.although i do rate andrews high enough as a manger.maybe hyland will learn some tactics over the next few years if they get voted in
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: PhilsJemmysField on August 24, 2010, 09:29:14 AM
Not sure about the "Joint" Bit but it looks official barring the clubs want to vote NO



A Cairde,
At the August management meeting of Cavan County Board  which took place tonight. A unanimous decision was taken to recommend the names of Val Andrews and Terry Hyland as  joint managers for our senior County team.
 
Cavan County Board are convening a county committee meeting for Thursday 26th August at 9pm in the Hotel Kilmore in order to seek formal ratification by our clubs for this pairing.
 
This email is being sent on behalf of County secretary Liam McCabe.

--
Is mise le meas,


Deaglan Mac Giolla Choille (Declan Woods)
Oifigeach Caidreamh Poiblí         
Coiste Breifne Uí Raghallaigh      
Paírc Kingspan Bhreifne    
An Cabhan    
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cogito on August 24, 2010, 10:08:04 AM
Taking Andrews after he flopped with Dublin minors this year? A team he was working with since they were about 14?

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Breffni_Yank on August 24, 2010, 10:09:15 AM
Does that mean Hyland will leave the u21 position?

Am i right in saying they were together the last time we got to an Ulster Final
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: whats my name on August 24, 2010, 10:14:57 AM
if anyone wants to see an improvement in cavan football vote against them at your club meetings. why would we give the managers job to a man that already had it and done nothing makes no sense. from what i hear a lot of the players are not going to play if Hyland got the job
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on August 24, 2010, 11:48:51 AM
Terry, we don't think you are good enough to do the job alone  so we'll bring in someone who has done the job before so you can learn some things that you will need.

It may work so here hoping but if I was Terry, I don't know how I'd feel.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Blue06 on August 24, 2010, 12:19:45 PM
Heres a recap of Cavan under Val andrews 10 years ago from what I remember.

Appointed Spring 99 half way through league campaign replacing Liam Austin

Won a couple of league games in Div 2b. 
Earlier losses made promotion impossible.

In championship , made a spirited late comeback with 2 goals to almost beat Derry in Casement.
Ref played on for draw and Brolly equalised.
Got a serious hiding in replay.

1999/2000

Div 2b, 3 losses but a massive (4-5 goals) win in Wexford in the last match secured promotion on points difference.  This was  followed by poor SF loss to Offaly in Mullingar.

2000 championship v Derry in Breffni still remains the worst(there have been contenders since) Cavan performance ever IMO.

2000/2001

Andrews does an overhaul of the team bringing in quite a few new faces.
e.g. McCrudden, Galligan, Jackson, Finbar Reilly.
Positive league performance in Div 1 ending with 3 - 1 - 3 record (7pts)

Championship wins over Down & Monaghan get us to an Ulster Final.
Could have beaten Tyrone, IMO if Forde was left CHB rather than following Stephen O'Neill into
the corner we would have won. (We are all experts after the event).

Went out tamely to Derry a few weeks later in the first year of qualifiers.

Then the messing started. (open to correction on this).  A couple of East Cavan clubs who had no representation on the county panel (and aggrieved about it) asked silly questions of Andrews at the meeting where he was being ratified (and rightly so after making considerable progress with his new team- not McHughs-) for another year.  The ratification went to a vote and Andrews got a large majority but then resigned because he was unhappy that everyone wasn't behind him.

IMO at the time he wanted out because the Dublin job had become available. 





Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on August 24, 2010, 07:20:17 PM
Quote from: Blue06 on August 24, 2010, 12:19:45 PM
Heres a recap of Cavan under Val andrews 10 years ago from what I remember.

Appointed Spring 99 half way through league campaign replacing Liam Austin

Won a couple of league games in Div 2b. 
Earlier losses made promotion impossible.

In championship , made a spirited late comeback with 2 goals to almost beat Derry in Casement.
Ref played on for draw and Brolly equalised.
Got a serious hiding in replay.

1999/2000

Div 2b, 3 losses but a massive (4-5 goals) win in Wexford in the last match secured promotion on points difference.  This was  followed by poor SF loss to Offaly in Mullingar.

2000 championship v Derry in Breffni still remains the worst(there have been contenders since) Cavan performance ever IMO.

2000/2001

Andrews does an overhaul of the team bringing in quite a few new faces.
e.g. McCrudden, Galligan, Jackson, Finbar Reilly.
Positive league performance in Div 1 ending with 3 - 1 - 3 record (7pts)

Championship wins over Down & Monaghan get us to an Ulster Final.
Could have beaten Tyrone, IMO if Forde was left CHB rather than following Stephen O'Neill into
the corner we would have won. (We are all experts after the event).

Went out tamely to Derry a few weeks later in the first year of qualifiers.

Then the messing started. (open to correction on this).  A couple of East Cavan clubs who had no representation on the county panel (and aggrieved about it) asked silly questions of Andrews at the meeting where he was being ratified (and rightly so after making considerable progress with his new team- not McHughs-) for another year.  The ratification went to a vote and Andrews got a large majority but then resigned because he was unhappy that everyone wasn't behind him.

IMO at the time he wanted out because the Dublin job had become available.

It was the Ballinagh delegate who first proposed a vote of No confidence in Andrews, this I believe was seconded by the Kingscourt delegate. It went to a vote which Andrews won but not by a big enough margin so he walked.

IMO there has to be one Boss. Andrews record with us previously was good and he seemed to be taking us places. We really could have won that day in 2001 against a team that would be All-Ireland champions in 2 years.
Cavan supporters have to realise what level we are at and basically that the likes of Pete Mc Grath, Joe Kernan, Canavan etc would more than likely not touch us for any amount of money.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Louth Exile on August 24, 2010, 07:25:02 PM
Only just heard the news about Andrews!!!!

May I offer my condolensenses to all the good GAA folk of Cavan and may the lord have mercy on your footballing souls.

I heard he wasn't the only other past manager considered. Cavan finances must be in awful shoite, or is it just a complete lack of imagination!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on August 24, 2010, 09:23:41 PM
As the Vietnam vet said "Deja vu all over again", although I suppose when you go through external managers at the rate we have there wil come a stage when you have to go to somebody for seconds. And as regards the joint managerial dream ticket haven't we been there before with Mcilkennon/Cassidy and Keogan/Grimley. I never worked out who was responsible for what in the latter case so I hope to god we can at least get that right this time around.

Positives:

Somebodys appointed and can get cracking on the job before the championship is over;
Knows a bit about the Cavan scene and at least had the gumption to stand by his principles last time out;
In fairness to Hyland he's done a bit in Ulster at Club and County underage level (well relative to anybody else in the county) and he should know the situation on the ground.
Can't be any worse than last management team (can it, please say so.........)


Negatives:

Not a huge record of achievement at inter county level since he was with us;
Had a stronger panel available to him last time around and, as another poster stated, we took some desperate hidings in the championship. In fairness, did a clean up and got us to an Ulster final we left behind.


Once again none of us are expecting any major miracles, it would just be nice to see a team lining out that plays with a bit of passion, pride etc. etc. etc.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on August 24, 2010, 09:34:10 PM
Before I give my opinion id like to know who else had thrown their hat in the ring. For example, was Pete McGrath interested? Was taking Hyland under his wing a part of taking the job. Did we get the best man who would agree to having his role split with Hyland? I would be very concerned if this was put into the "contract" and if a top class manager was passed over just so Hyland could be included. Andrews is an ok manager but one thing that alway stuck in my mind with him is he had his teams flying in the league, totally showing his hand and then got hammered in the championship (with the exception of the one year he got to an Ulster final). He never had a plan B. He did seem to get the best out of some of the younger lads which is going to be important. Will he be able to get the superstars in the Gaels to play? But my overwhelming feeling on this is we made the role fit the manager instead of the otherway round and in any walk of life that doesn't work. I wonder will the clubs ask who else had their names in the hat?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on August 24, 2010, 09:59:54 PM
Val Andrews/Terry Hyland joint managers
and hopefully Pat Flanagan as trainer(if Dessile Dolan snr as we expect will get the Westmeath job)
id take that,it will be a massive improvement over the past 2 regimes(not that,thats saying much mind you).
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: handballer09 on August 24, 2010, 10:10:43 PM
Quoteand hopefully Pat Flanagan as trainer(if Dessile Dolan snr as we expect will get the Westmeath job)

You're thinking of a different Pat Flanagan entirely.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on August 24, 2010, 10:17:11 PM
Quote from: handballer09 on August 24, 2010, 10:10:43 PM
Quoteand hopefully Pat Flanagan as trainer(if Dessile Dolan snr as we expect will get the Westmeath job)

You're thinking of a different Pat Flanagan entirely.

Just checked it and you're right,different Pat Flanagan,the one with westmeath is an offaly man.
The Pat Flanagan im talking about was involved with Val,during his first spell with Cavan, and alongside Andrews with Tralee IT,and was involved with the Kerry team from 2004-2006,overseeing their fitness,and once again when Jack O Connor returned in 2008.
Hes a highly rated trainer.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Breffni_Yank on August 24, 2010, 11:42:35 PM
Will the clubs accept that nomination do you's think?? I know club members in my area aren't overly impressed.

Will they work with mainly the same bunch of players or will  they look the start afresh?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on August 25, 2010, 08:35:46 AM
I agree with Boojangles. The use of the word "joint" makes me uneasy for a start. Somebody needs to be the boss and so I also agree roughly with what Denn Forever says about wanting Hyland but not being confident enough given some negative whispers around the county.

I also find it odd that the the distance between the proposal and the meeting to vote him in is so close together.

Louth Exile, you might state your reasons for your deepest sympathies. I didn't follow his progress in your county.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: PhilsJemmysField on August 25, 2010, 09:22:32 AM
Val Andrews and T Hyland were the "Joint" Managers in Louth as well I believe even though it was not widely known as Andrews did all the Media work. So Louth opinion here is important. Just to go back to the infamous County Meeting where Andrews took the hump. I believe it was the question why could he not get "Larry To pass the ball" that done the trick. 
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Terry Coyle on August 25, 2010, 09:32:55 AM
I'm with you on the joint managers lads. Don't care who it is but there really needs to be one man in charge and thats it. Andrews is a likeable character though. Doesnt appear to be a me man (unlike Carr) and maybe might get more out of the players. I dont know if many of the players will even listen to Hyland though.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dougal on August 25, 2010, 10:28:12 AM
lawrence,from what ive heard,he only managed to win 3 league games in 2 years.infact,before tommy came here,tommys record was about as good as his (better,depening on how highly you rate the sigersons he won).
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: full moon on August 25, 2010, 12:45:34 PM
At the bottom of the barrel aren't we?

What a depressing situation.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Breffni_Yank on August 25, 2010, 01:09:43 PM
Quote from: full moon on August 25, 2010, 12:45:34 PM
At the bottom of the barrel aren't we?

What a depressing situation.

Calm down full moon, I would have rathered Stevie Wonder manager the team instead of Carr again...

I think it lacks imagination but then again, who genuinely wanted the job and who could we afford to pay at present?

I would rather have Val and Terry doing it together than either by themselves.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: full moon on August 25, 2010, 01:12:29 PM
Two wrongs don't make a right. The reaction of the Louth fans says it all for me.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Breffni_Yank on August 25, 2010, 02:04:43 PM
They deserve a chance is all I am saying.

Obviously interest was not huge in the  job and in fairness, why would it?

At least we know we have a managemment team that want to be there and not just for the money
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on August 26, 2010, 04:37:35 PM
So tonight is the night... Will the pair of boys get in with the club's ratification?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: full moon on August 26, 2010, 04:42:27 PM
Only if the sky is blue....

There could be a full moon tonight...
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on August 26, 2010, 04:43:49 PM
Quote from: full moon on August 26, 2010, 04:42:27 PM
Only if the sky is blue....

There could be a full moon tonight...
ya reckon??
Well for what it's worth - I reckon they will be the Cavan Senior Managers come the end of the meeting
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Louth Exile on August 26, 2010, 05:13:26 PM
Val Andrews was without any shadow of a doubt the worst Louth manager in the last 25 years and I can remember them all!!! Some of the highlights:

* Winning only three league games in the lowest division in 2004 & 2005
* Bring the attendance at a competitive Louth intercounty game down to 15! (Bantys statement yesterday reminded me of this)
* Finishing the league in 2005 with only London and Killkenny lower than us.
* Qualifier game against Antrim in Drogheda. A blind man could see that Nicky Mc Donnell was our best player on the day and he takes him off! The hill goes mad and he looks around like a rabbit in the headlights. Game went to extra time and guess who started and went on to be our best player in this period also!
* Qualifier game against Monaghan in Brefni. Louth team meet outside Ardee in the afternoon, normally there would be food laid on such days. Andrews hasn't thought of even these basics. Players have to ask him on the bus what is the story about grub. He hasn't thought of this!! They ring ahead to the pub on the Dublin road (you lads all know the one, past the Crystal Hotel on your left as you come in). They have to trapse through the pub and all the supporters to have soup and sandwiches an hour before the game!! Its no wonder that we didn't play until the second half, sure the food was only digested at this stage....
* By the end of his tenure he had driven away players like Martin Farrelly, John Neary, David Brennan, Peter Mc Ginnty and others who all returned on his departure. He retired Ollie Mc Donnell
* He had absolutely no professionalism whatsoever in his entire set up by modern standards and should never, ever be let speak to the media as he is a complete embarrassment.

I seriously don't think that I can find a positive thing to say about the two years of a shambles that was his time in charge of Louth. I have a liking for Cavan and I am sorry to see it come to this for ye!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: full moon on August 26, 2010, 08:39:21 PM
Quote from: Louth Exile on August 26, 2010, 05:13:26 PM
Val Andrews was without any shadow of a doubt the worst Louth manager in the last 25 years and I can remember them all!!! Some of the highlights:

* Winning only three league games in the lowest division in 2004 & 2005
* Bring the attendance at a competitive Louth intercounty game down to 15! (Bantys statement yesterday reminded me of this)
* Finishing the league in 2005 with only London and Killkenny lower than us.
* Qualifier game against Antrim in Drogheda. A blind man could see that Nicky Mc Donnell was our best player on the day and he takes him off! The hill goes mad and he looks around like a rabbit in the headlights. Game went to extra time and guess who started and went on to be our best player in this period also!
* Qualifier game against Monaghan in Brefni. Louth team meet outside Ardee in the afternoon, normally there would be food laid on such days. Andrews hasn't thought of even these basics. Players have to ask him on the bus what is the story about grub. He hasn't thought of this!! They ring ahead to the pub on the Dublin road (you lads all know the one, past the Crystal Hotel on your left as you come in). They have to trapse through the pub and all the supporters to have soup and sandwiches an hour before the game!! Its no wonder that we didn't play until the second half, sure the food was only digested at this stage....
* By the end of his tenure he had driven away players like Martin Farrelly, John Neary, David Brennan, Peter Mc Ginnty and others who all returned on his departure. He retired Ollie Mc Donnell
* He had absolutely no professionalism whatsoever in his entire set up by modern standards and should never, ever be let speak to the media as he is a complete embarrassment.

I seriously don't think that I can find a positive thing to say about the two years of a shambles that was his time in charge of Louth. I have a liking for Cavan and I am sorry to see it come to this for ye!

Says it all for me. And yet you will have buffons at this meeting that will vote them in.

The only positive point I have seen anyone mention is they they want to be there and not for the money. (Which we don't know)

This is a IC side, wanting to be manager can't be good enough can it?!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on August 26, 2010, 08:40:06 PM
But he'llhave Terry to guide him.

Hopes for the new management are that they attend the various championship games in Junior, Inter and Senior.

Have a good idea of the panel and let the members of this panel know well before Christmas so players can get their heads around this and start preparing mentally (we know there should be no training).

Ideally have a panel of 30 which includes players playing in Sigerson.  That would mean probably about 25 for McKenna cup and league. 

Keep faith with players who have played during the winter and don't parachute the "stars" in when they become available.

Be safe in Div. 3 after 4 games so we can start preparing for the championship.

Roll on 2011.

First challenge will be how they deal with Ray Cullivan.

Roll on 2011.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on August 26, 2010, 08:45:10 PM
I spoke to a number of Longford people after Eamon Coleman left and they said he was an absolute disaster.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: full moon on August 26, 2010, 08:46:43 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on August 01, 2010, 08:36:59 PM
Quote from: full moon on August 01, 2010, 08:24:58 PM
Well I think the hype about Mickey G being the new county manager should be put to bed today. Looks like he won't even get Ballyhaise out of the group this year.

Pathetic, and Killeshandra missing Declan McKiernan. Quite clearly have the best panel of players IMO, he isn't getting the best out of them.

Also shows what an utter waste of time League football is in this county.

Cheer up Full Moon. Sure weren't Meath bet so all us not lost. Didn't realise you were from Ballyhaise.

Missed this. I  sort of follow their fortunes but have moved and I've been at another club for several years. Sorry to disappoint BM... ;D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dougal on August 26, 2010, 10:22:56 PM
Quote from: full moon on August 26, 2010, 08:46:43 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on August 01, 2010, 08:36:59 PM
Quote from: full moon on August 01, 2010, 08:24:58 PM
Well I think the hype about Mickey G being the new county manager should be put to bed today. Looks like he won't even get Ballyhaise out of the group this year.

Pathetic, and Killeshandra missing Declan McKiernan. Quite clearly have the best panel of players IMO, he isn't getting the best out of them.

Also shows what an utter waste of time League football is in this county.

Cheer up Full Moon. Sure weren't Meath bet so all us not lost. Didn't realise you were from Ballyhaise.

Missed this. I  sort of follow their fortunes but have moved and I've been at another club for several years. Sorry to disappoint BM... ;D

redhills so??


any word from the meeting tonight?was talking to a club secretary today,he basically said that his club was going to vote them in just because that's who has been suggested.sounded like they would vote in mickey mouse if the county board suggested him.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dougal on August 26, 2010, 11:13:03 PM
we have a new manager,well 2 of them.

http://www.anglocelt.ie/sport/localgaa/articles/2010/08/26/3999611-andrews-and-hyland-ratified/ (http://www.anglocelt.ie/sport/localgaa/articles/2010/08/26/3999611-andrews-and-hyland-ratified/)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on August 26, 2010, 11:34:40 PM
Hopefully they be present in Breffni over the weekend.

Be on the lookout.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on August 26, 2010, 11:41:30 PM
Quote from: Lawrence of Knockbride on August 26, 2010, 08:45:10 PM
I spoke to a number of Longford people after Eamon Coleman left and they said he was an absolute disaster.


Haven't always seen eye to eye with LOK but in fairness I think he's got it in one there. When results go awol the manager is a disaster, what we'd give to have Eamon on Board now. I've carefully watched the postings from our Cavan Gaels representative on board as I get the impression he is close to the action. His suggestion that players won't listen to Terry Hyland says it all really. There are very few lads kicking ball around Cavan at the minute that would leave anybody in awe but they wont listen to Terry (not perfect I'm sure but his record is as good as anybody over the last three years within the county), the same lads weren't keen on TC and didn't think a whole pile of Donal Keogan beforehand. Who the hell would they listen to given that Mickey Harte isn't going to be available anytime soon and Canavan has better ways of building his profile at inter county level.

For whatever reason we have a long history of players with not a lot to show taking exception to managers (you can go all the way back to PJ Carroll and include Liam Austin in between before we get to the last few appointments. Best of luck to the new team but in the end they will only get so much out of what's available.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Louth Exile on August 27, 2010, 12:22:14 AM
Quote from: Denn Forever on August 26, 2010, 11:34:40 PM
Hopefully they be present in Breffni over the weekend.

Be on the lookout.

You might have to look around the edges!! Thats another one I forgot....
Remember walking into a senior championship match in Knockbridge and there was Andrews, on his own, not a single Louth man with him, in a spot off the edge of the hill where you can't see past the 50 yard line at the other end of the field. What he was looking out for I don't know, because he couldn't see the game  :D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on August 27, 2010, 12:37:11 AM
My memories of Andrews would be positive,mainly due to Cavan's good display against Tyrone in 2001,when we were completely written off.
However Louth Exile is a very good poster,so his post about Andrews set up with Louth would certainly worry you.
Terry Hyland from first hand experience is a very knowledgeable fella who knows his football and is passionate about Cavan Football so its not a bit of harm to have him involved.

Im guessing and i have nothing to back this suggestion up
The likes of Pete McGrath/Pillar Caffrey etc whom were linked were offered,but had no interest in taking the position of Cavan manager, a position which is a poisoned chalice.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on August 27, 2010, 08:28:12 AM
Quote from: Louth Exile on August 27, 2010, 12:22:14 AM
Quote from: Denn Forever on August 26, 2010, 11:34:40 PM
Hopefully they be present in Breffni over the weekend.

Be on the lookout.

You might have to look around the edges!! Thats another one I forgot....
Remember walking into a senior championship match in Knockbridge and there was Andrews, on his own, not a single Louth man with him, in a spot off the edge of the hill where you can't see past the 50 yard line at the other end of the field. What he was looking out for I don't know, because he couldn't see the game  :D
Maybe he was watching players on the other side of the 50 yard line. And then maybe he moved to a different spot when you weren't looking.
I was with you on the food before the match but now I'm losing faith.
It's done now so here's hoping and remaining optimistic at least until that first night in January.
My next reaction to the appointment will be after I see who's selected at MF in the opening game.
I'll be in Breffni on Saturday standing in the corner entrance to the stand where I can only see as far as the 20 metre line. ;)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on August 27, 2010, 09:04:03 AM
Louth Exile, some of those stories are bordering on truly shocking but I would be very interested in hearing the other side of those yarns, which there always are. Do you have any interests to declare in the matter of Val? Nobody is pretending he is Footballs answer to Brian Cody but I'm hopeful he can help us make some progress IF the joint team has a bit of success in getting lads to commit fully
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Terry Coyle on August 27, 2010, 09:11:14 AM
I dont think joint managers work full stop. We need one man calling the shots. But best of luck to them. Some of the items Louth Exile mentions are very worrying but for some of them (the food for example) I am sure are handled by some other party within the management team. I am sure Val himself (nor any manager for that matter) is ringing up and organising food. But point taken that he should have been on top of it and making sure someone was appointed to that task.

Any word on a trainer then? If they got Flanagan in that would be a real boost and for me would be as good as getting in a Pete McGrath type manager.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BigMac on August 27, 2010, 10:42:15 AM
Im not sure if it is as bad as if it was just Terry on his own, but still not ideal. I had a feeling it was going to be Terry from a good while ago and I wasnt very optomistic. Now that it has happened, it is time to get behind them and support them. Begrudging, or giving out or players refusing to play for them won't do any good for Cavan football. Ultimately we all have the same goal, to be successful, be that getting promotion, winning Ulster etc. This might not be the ideal scenario, but to try and achieve that goal the only way is if everyone involved pulls together and supports the management. Votes of no confidence etc wont do any good at this stage. Heres hoping they can surprise us all and bring a bit of success, or even a little less disappointment than were used to!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Swadman on August 27, 2010, 05:31:55 PM
Quote from: BigMac on August 27, 2010, 10:42:15 AM
Im not sure if it is as bad as if it was just Terry on his own, but still not ideal. ...Now that it has happened, it is time to get behind them and support them. Begrudging, or giving out or players refusing to play for them won't do any good for Cavan football. Ultimately we all have the same goal, to be successful, be that getting promotion, winning Ulster etc. .... to try and achieve that goal the only way is if everyone involved pulls together and supports the management. Votes of no confidence etc wont do any good at this stage. ...
I agreed with a lot of that.  Reports say they have been appointed for a 3 year term, does this mean anything these days? They should be given that time at least - it will take it to sort out the mess that is Cavan at the minute.  It is said that this management team are in it for the love of the game and not the money - good to hear - I hope our better players follow that lead.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: beer baron on August 27, 2010, 10:41:41 PM
Gaels win in controversial circumstances after being 6 down at half time  :o
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on August 27, 2010, 10:46:27 PM
Can you elaborate?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: beer baron on August 27, 2010, 10:49:19 PM
'referee started second half and cuchullains had only 14 men on the field, johnsons marker wasnt there. he had a goal scored within 10 seconds of the restart. they may hav beat them only for that.' This is what was said to me by  a reliable friend of mine.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on August 27, 2010, 11:14:26 PM
Quote from: beer baron on August 27, 2010, 10:49:19 PM
'referee started second half and cuchullains had only 14 men on the field, johnsons marker wasnt there. he had a goal scored within 10 seconds of the restart. they may hav beat them only for that.' This is what was said to me by  a reliable friend of mine.

As Miley from glenroe would say "well holy god!"
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dougal on August 27, 2010, 11:29:58 PM
was at the game and couldnt understand what they were complaining about.thats a kick in the balls.ref was woeful for both teams.the goal really changed the game,johnston woke up after it and scored a few points which seen them through.never realised how big keating was,conor smith was good when he was getting decent ball.krotty came on to fight,dont think he was bothered with playing at all.gaels wont go much further if they play another game as bad as that.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on August 27, 2010, 11:41:59 PM
Quote from: Dougal on August 27, 2010, 11:29:58 PM
was at the game and couldnt understand what they were complaining about.thats a kick in the balls.ref was woeful for both teams.the goal really changed the game,johnston woke up after it and scored a few points which seen them through.never realised how big keating was,conor smith was good when he was getting decent ball.krotty came on to fight,dont think he was bothered with playing at all.gaels wont go much further if they play another game as bad as that.

And who was the ref so??
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dougal on August 27, 2010, 11:43:37 PM
Quote from: Celt_Man on August 27, 2010, 11:41:59 PM
Quote from: Dougal on August 27, 2010, 11:29:58 PM
was at the game and couldnt understand what they were complaining about.thats a kick in the balls.ref was woeful for both teams.the goal really changed the game,johnston woke up after it and scored a few points which seen them through.never realised how big keating was,conor smith was good when he was getting decent ball.krotty came on to fight,dont think he was bothered with playing at all.gaels wont go much further if they play another game as bad as that.

And who was the ref so??

Padraig Kelleher
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on August 27, 2010, 11:49:35 PM
Quote from: Dougal on August 27, 2010, 11:43:37 PM
Quote from: Celt_Man on August 27, 2010, 11:41:59 PM
Quote from: Dougal on August 27, 2010, 11:29:58 PM
was at the game and couldnt understand what they were complaining about.thats a kick in the balls.ref was woeful for both teams.the goal really changed the game,johnston woke up after it and scored a few points which seen them through.never realised how big keating was,conor smith was good when he was getting decent ball.krotty came on to fight,dont think he was bothered with playing at all.gaels wont go much further if they play another game as bad as that.

And who was the ref so??

Padraig Kelleher

Excellent.... and who is down to ref our game next week....
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on August 28, 2010, 12:06:49 PM
Could this be the year for new Senior champs?  Reports on CG have been that they've been luck to survive.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dougal on August 28, 2010, 02:11:28 PM
Quote from: Denn Forever on August 28, 2010, 12:06:49 PM
Could this be the year for new Senior champs?  Reports on CG have been that they've been luck to survive.

it's certainly more likely than previous years,but it looks like they arent playing anywhere near aswell as they're capable.saw them last night and against ballinagh and were very good at times in both,but looked to be siiting back for the rest of the game.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on August 28, 2010, 03:49:00 PM
Quote from: Denn Forever on August 28, 2010, 12:06:49 PM
Could this be the year for new Senior champs?  Reports on CG have been that they've been luck to survive.

If they revert back to playing the excellent attacking football they are capable of and relax on the cynical stuff nobody will beat them. Can't understand why a team full of fine footballers had to turn to some of the negative stuff that was on show last night. Cavan Gaels should have been beating that Cuchulainns team comfortably last night.
First time I ever seen a lad getting applauded for being sent off.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on August 28, 2010, 04:05:14 PM
Quote from: boojangles on August 28, 2010, 03:49:00 PM
Quote from: Denn Forever on August 28, 2010, 12:06:49 PM
Could this be the year for new Senior champs?  Reports on CG have been that they've been luck to survive.

If they revert back to playing the excellent attacking football they are capable of and relax on the cynical stuff nobody will beat them. Can't understand why a team full of fine footballers had to turn to some of the negative stuff that was on show last night. Cavan Gaels should have been beating that Cuchulainns team comfortably last night.
First time I ever seen a lad getting applauded for being sent off.
Dunno about that Boojangles. I warmed my hands early in the second half against Wicklow. ;)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cogito on August 28, 2010, 04:30:59 PM
Just noticed this on Hoganstand.

At last night's county board meeting in the Hotel Kilmore, the duo were proposed by Lacken's Jimmy Galligan and seconded by Johnny O'Hanlon of Cavan Gaels. The clubs were unanimous in their support for the appointment of the new co-managers, neither of whom were present at the meeting.

Does that mean the Gaels lads will behind the new management team. You boys need all the help you can get but I think the new appointment is a good one for Cavan.  At least the I think they will bring passion to it and that should spread to the players. I think if Cavan get that back they will make progress. Talent is not the problem, I have seen plenty of talented Cavan men playing Sigerson in recent years
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on August 28, 2010, 10:02:09 PM
Quote from: boojangles on August 28, 2010, 03:49:00 PM
First time I ever seen a lad getting applauded for being sent off.

Who got the line Boojangles - Gaels fella I take it?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on August 28, 2010, 10:39:42 PM
Did I hear right?  On Northern sound I thought I heard that Stephen King is going to be a selector with V&T. 

Myles will be happy. :o
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on August 28, 2010, 11:24:16 PM
Quote from: Denn Forever on August 28, 2010, 10:39:42 PM
Did I hear right?  On Northern sound I thought I heard that Stephen King is going to be a selector with V&T. 

Myles will be happy. :o

that bollox on hoganstand predicted as much... wonder if he is going in with them too!!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Breffni_Yank on August 28, 2010, 11:30:16 PM
Heard that about King myself alright. Sounds like a great addition considering his playing achievments. Hasn't he has success with Killeshandra as well?


Any word on a trainer for the team yet? I'm liking the sound of the new set-up so far and am feeling quietly comfident. I just hope they plan to build a new team and strip away the deadwood. I would honestly say I would keep about ten of this year's panel .

Got to see my first championship match of the summer tonight with Kingscourt beating Gowna. I was expecting big things given there league position but was disappointed.. Can't see them matching a Gaels team that is as strong as it is.

Barry Reilly got some 'one on one' treatment from a Gowna man throughout.

Of the two games on tonight I didn't see to many lads that you would say are county standard...
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Breffni_Yank on August 28, 2010, 11:31:44 PM
Quote from: Celt_Man on August 28, 2010, 11:24:16 PM
Quote from: Denn Forever on August 28, 2010, 10:39:42 PM
Did I hear right?  On Northern sound I thought I heard that Stephen King is going to be a selector with V&T. 

Myles will be happy. :o

that bollox on hoganstand predicted as much... wonder if he is going in with them too!!

I was reading that earlier alright. Surely he shouldn't be making things public knowledge that he hears while cutting the grass? Who is he? He seems to know alot about the Cavan scene..
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on August 28, 2010, 11:38:43 PM
Quote from: Breffni_Yank on August 28, 2010, 11:31:44 PM
Quote from: Celt_Man on August 28, 2010, 11:24:16 PM
Quote from: Denn Forever on August 28, 2010, 10:39:42 PM
Did I hear right?  On Northern sound I thought I heard that Stephen King is going to be a selector with V&T. 

Myles will be happy. :o

that bollox on hoganstand predicted as much... wonder if he is going in with them too!!

I was reading that earlier alright. Surely he shouldn't be making things public knowledge that he hears while cutting the grass? Who is he? He seems to know alot about the Cavan scene..

He is the groundskeeper for Breffni Park and he should stick to it.... also puts his name to the Cavan GAA website which is nothing to be proud of
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Breffni_Yank on August 28, 2010, 11:44:57 PM
Groundskeeper? Feck sake I thought he was on a committe or somerthing the way he was going on? Seems very passionate in fairness to him..

So that is Andrews, Hyland and King now. Sounds stronger than the last regime already but would any of those three actually take trainings?

As I said I have seen little or no games in Cavan this year but has there been anyone standing out in club games?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on August 28, 2010, 11:47:17 PM
Quote from: Breffni_Yank on August 28, 2010, 11:44:57 PM
Groundskeeper? Feck sake I thought he was on a committe or somerthing the way he was going on? Seems very passionate in fairness to him..

So that is Andrews, Hyland and King now. Sounds stronger than the last regime already but would any of those three actually take trainings?

As I said I have seen little or no games in Cavan this year but has there been anyone standing out in club games?

Passionate but not sure if he is wise at all...

Now I'll qualify this statement by saying I wouldn't know as I've never had any dealings with him but from what I hear from second hand sources - King is meant to be a joke...
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Breffni_Yank on August 28, 2010, 11:57:59 PM
Then why is he getting asked in? In fairness, you would hope he could make a good selector. I mean technically he should be just helping to pick the team and share his experiences with players. I mean the organising of training and actual management of individuals wouldn't be part of his job description would it?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on August 29, 2010, 12:02:08 AM
Quote from: Breffni_Yank on August 28, 2010, 11:57:59 PM
Then why is he getting asked in? In fairness, you would hope he could make a good selector. I mean technically he should be just helping to pick the team and share his experiences with players. I mean the organising of training and actual management of individuals wouldn't be part of his job description would it?

ahh sure who knows...
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on August 29, 2010, 12:10:06 AM
Lets wait for Myles to tell us all about Kings dealings with teams.  He seems to have a set against him but maybe Myles is being a bit harsh.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Breffni_Yank on August 29, 2010, 12:14:19 AM
Quote from: Denn Forever on August 29, 2010, 12:10:06 AM
Lets wait for Myles to tell us all about Kings dealings with teams.  He seems to have a set against him but maybe Myles is being a bit harsh.

What's that saying about a preacher never been appreciated in his own land or something~?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dougal on August 29, 2010, 03:56:34 AM
king as a manager...absolute no-no.king as a selector?might be alright at that.football tonight was pretty poor,would i be right in saying that you were at it lawrence??
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on August 29, 2010, 09:14:31 AM
I wasn't but I'd love to know why you think I was ??? ??? ???
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dougal on August 29, 2010, 01:07:58 PM
Quote from: Lawrence of Knockbride on August 29, 2010, 09:14:31 AM
I wasn't but I'd love to know why you think I was ??? ??? ???

odd notions when im drunk i suppose.you said you go to the odd killeshandra game,and theres one lad that goes to a few of them,and i dont know who he is.so last night i added two and two,and got 5.  :-[

what time is the mullahoran game at today??
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on August 29, 2010, 01:50:59 PM
Quote from: Dougal on August 29, 2010, 01:07:58 PM
Quote from: Lawrence of Knockbride on August 29, 2010, 09:14:31 AM
I wasn't but I'd love to know why you think I was ??? ??? ???

odd notions when im drunk i suppose.you said you go to the odd killeshandra game,and theres one lad that goes to a few of them,and i dont know who he is.so last night i added two and two,and got 5.  :-[

what time is the mullahoran game at today??

7.30 boss
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on August 29, 2010, 03:14:07 PM
Look lads, accuse me of being against king all you want. He never did me a bad turn and I have nothing personal against him but he is absolutley clueless on the line. Don't believe me go and ask ballymchugh who tried ti get rid of him a few weeks ago and instead cut his "expenses" by half. Anyone who wants this guy involved with our intercounty team is an ill informed idiot. I was willing to give this new  management team the benefit of the doubt but if this is their 1st decision then I think we are in for a bad time. Breffni yank - king had nothing to do with success at killeshandra and it is a crime that people in far distant clubs think he did.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on August 29, 2010, 03:15:46 PM
Ballinagh 0-17 Redhills 0-7
Lavey 0-8 Denn 0-7
Belturbet beat Crosserlough also.

Leaving Denn V Crosserlough which should be pretty :o, and Redhills V Killygarry in relegation battle.

Heard the same about King at Ballymachugh. They can't even field a second team this year for Gods sake.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on August 29, 2010, 03:49:31 PM
I knew you didn't rate and I have no experience of him so I was hoping that someone from his club could tell us more.

And it would smack of Newcastle and Alan Shearer i.e. was a good player for the team and no other reason.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on August 29, 2010, 04:19:50 PM
C'mon Myles. Ill-informed maybe but a bit harsh to call someone and idiot because they don't know something.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on August 29, 2010, 04:44:16 PM
Quote from: Lawrence of Knockbride on August 29, 2010, 04:19:50 PM
C'mon Myles. Ill-informed maybe but a bit harsh to call someone and idiot because they don't know something.
I was referring to our new management team for being idiots. If they know nothing about him they would be even bigger idiots to involve him
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: full moon on August 29, 2010, 04:56:28 PM
Myles is right, this is an even worse collection  of "managers" and selectors than even the previous regime. How that is possible is really amazing.

Div 4 here we come.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on August 29, 2010, 06:05:21 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on August 29, 2010, 04:44:16 PM
Quote from: Lawrence of Knockbride on August 29, 2010, 04:19:50 PM
C'mon Myles. Ill-informed maybe but a bit harsh to call someone and idiot because they don't know something.
I was referring to our new management team for being idiots. If they know nothing about him they would be even bigger idiots to involve him
Oh right........disregard.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on August 29, 2010, 09:38:19 PM
Mullahorn beat Castlerahan 10 points to 5 there in Breffni earlier... It was the first match I've been at other than those which were on in our pitch and it will be the last if they are of that standard.....

Semi finals draw was made
Mullahorn v Gaels
Kingscourt v Ramor
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dougal on August 29, 2010, 11:54:25 PM
when will the semis be?cant wait for the gaels v mullahoran.havent seen mullahoran at all this year,so its hard to know if they can beat the gaels,but i think they should.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on August 30, 2010, 12:45:00 AM
Quote from: Dougal on August 29, 2010, 11:54:25 PM
when will the semis be?cant wait for the gaels v mullahoran.havent seen mullahoran at all this year,so its hard to know if they can beat the gaels,but i think they should.

Kingscourt v Ramor Saturday week at 8 pm in Breffni then Gaels Mullahorn the next day at 3.30
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Terry Coyle on August 30, 2010, 09:32:42 AM
Quote from: Dougal on August 29, 2010, 11:54:25 PM
when will the semis be?cant wait for the gaels v mullahoran.havent seen mullahoran at all this year,so its hard to know if they can beat the gaels,but i think they should.

Well if we play like we did in the first half on Friday evening then the dreadnoughts will hammer us. We havent played one good championship game this year. Bit worrying but great draw for us all the same, will see where we are at.

Good to see two relatively big teams back in the semis in Ramor and Kingscourt. Reckon the stars will pip that one - I believe Ado Cole went off with a hamstring injury at the weekend so if he is out then he will be a big loss.

Is it definitely true about King being a selector? I have heard the same as what Myles is describing. Are we scraping the bottom of the barrel? I think so. If we have joint managers, do we need a selector? I thought all we would have needed was a trainer if that was the case.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Breffni_Yank on August 30, 2010, 10:39:47 AM
I don't get the critisicm of King at all. Fair enough if he is a shite manager but being a selector is a completely different role to managing. I don't know the man at all but for example if communciation with players is a problem for him, well as a selector he doesn't really have that responsibility. If he is a shite trainer then he doesn't have t hat responsability either.  He can simply stand there, watch the game and whisper in Terry's or Andrews ear. I would be shocked after all the years of playing that he couldn't bring something to the set-up.

Obviously the new managers have some time for him or they wouldn't have asked him. I remember he used to write in one of those free papers and I thought he was quite insightful to be honest.

I'm very curious to see who comes in as a trainer because I dont believe any of the three already mentioned would be up to the standard in the latest methods.

Also read on the Hoganstand that Andrews said last night on the radio that King is involved and they will be sitting down this week to come up with a plan..
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: PhilsJemmysField on August 30, 2010, 11:47:42 AM
Heard Val Doonican on the RTE radio 1 last night. He was talking Middle Management speak about looking at systems and analysing where Cavan is at right now. He sounded positive anyways. Said they are going to have first meeting with "Backroom" team this week and was glad to say this included Stephen King. Saw Hyland in Breffni Friday night. The best man on the field for the first half was one Terry Farrelly which says it all, the 97 crew are still our best footballers at club games. Conor in at full foward was a handful as was Shane Smith. Cucu's played simple game Midfield got ball gave it to Keating who played to Full Forward line in space. The Gaels indiscipline left a lot to be desired and if they meet a real referee will have big issues. Of course keating had to talk himself off the pitch as well. There must be some form of curse on Cavan Football that says if you are a fairly good footballer that you are Mad as a Hatter. I think Kellegher did as well as he could with a pair of Linesmen who showed no interest in helping him. There was some poor wee young lad doing the line in the second half totally out of his depth. Forde basically reffed the second half while Lyng was poor and only interested in Messing. Johnston was lucky as well as was Terry Farrelly to stay on. Crotty well he needs to be let out in a field somewhere and told here is a ball and see would he actually play with it. I think he still would end up getting sent off.  The Gaels have a lot of work to do but would still say they are favorites showed flashes of combined play that still would blow a lot of teams away. Allegedly the corner back was looking for gloves when the ball was thrown in.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on August 30, 2010, 01:02:23 PM
Quote from: Breffni_Yank on August 30, 2010, 10:39:47 AM
I don't get the critisicm of King at all. Fair enough if he is a shite manager but being a selector is a completely different role to managing. I don't know the man at all but for example if communciation with players is a problem for him, well as a selector he doesn't really have that responsibility. If he is a shite trainer then he doesn't have t hat responsability either.  He can simply stand there, watch the game and whisper in Terry's or Andrews ear. I would be shocked after all the years of playing that he couldn't bring something to the set-up.

Obviously the new managers have some time for him or they wouldn't have asked him. I remember he used to write in one of those free papers and I thought he was quite insightful to be honest.

I'm very curious to see who comes in as a trainer because I dont believe any of the three already mentioned would be up to the standard in the latest methods.

Also read on the Hoganstand that Andrews said last night on the radio that King is involved and they will be sitting down this week to come up with a plan..

Prepare to be shocked!

With regards to his journalistic abilities, I'll PM you something I wouldn't put up here.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Breffni_Yank on August 30, 2010, 01:59:36 PM
Is Hyland still over u21's?

Also what is happening with the minor position? Is Micky Graham's term up now?

I actually thought King might get that job..
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on August 30, 2010, 02:00:50 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on August 30, 2010, 01:02:23 PM
Quote from: Breffni_Yank on August 30, 2010, 10:39:47 AM
I don't get the critisicm of King at all. Fair enough if he is a shite manager but being a selector is a completely different role to managing. I don't know the man at all but for example if communciation with players is a problem for him, well as a selector he doesn't really have that responsibility. If he is a shite trainer then he doesn't have t hat responsability either.  He can simply stand there, watch the game and whisper in Terry's or Andrews ear. I would be shocked after all the years of playing that he couldn't bring something to the set-up.

Obviously the new managers have some time for him or they wouldn't have asked him. I remember he used to write in one of those free papers and I thought he was quite insightful to be honest.

I'm very curious to see who comes in as a trainer because I dont believe any of the three already mentioned would be up to the standard in the latest methods.

Also read on the Hoganstand that Andrews said last night on the radio that King is involved and they will be sitting down this week to come up with a plan..

Prepare to be shocked!

With regards to his journalistic abilities, I'll PM you something I wouldn't put up here.

You have my interest now too... fire me one as well
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dougal on August 30, 2010, 06:18:26 PM
send one my way aswel myles.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Swadman on August 30, 2010, 10:24:14 PM
Quote

Prepare to be shocked!



I'm guessing here but are you hinting at "ghostly goings on"
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Swadman on August 30, 2010, 10:29:45 PM
Myles, Dougal, I hope to get up to Templeport on Sat 4th to see ye play Drumlane. I have to appear at my clubs Golf Classic  in Ballinamore first but am looking forward to a cracker. Maybe I should bring my "golf stick" for protection.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on August 30, 2010, 10:48:57 PM
Might take a wander down to that myself.. Sparks could fly! What's the story around Swad? Surely eyeing up Shercock as main contenders now. Gearoid's return will have been a big boost..
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on August 31, 2010, 08:39:19 AM
Quote from: Swadman on August 30, 2010, 10:24:14 PM
Quote

Prepare to be shocked!



I'm guessing here but are you hinting at "ghostly goings on"

:D Yer some boy.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on August 31, 2010, 01:33:15 PM
Here yis are lads. Fantastic news. :-X

http://www.hoganstand.com/ArticleForm.aspx?ID=134712
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Swadman on August 31, 2010, 08:46:39 PM
Quote from: Westside on August 30, 2010, 10:48:57 PM
Might take a wander down to that myself.. Sparks could fly! What's the story around Swad? Surely eyeing up Shercock as main contenders now. Gearoid's return will have been a big boost..
Yea, a major boost to have him back, tempered a bit by the loss of Aidy McGoldrick who was back to his teak tough best recently but is out now with a knee injury.
The lads seem focused and the discipline is better. They should have too much for Arva in Breffni but I hope they don't take it for granted. I watched Shannon Gaels beat Templeport (just about) so I would like to get them in the semi and avoid Shercock. They are serious contenders this year under Jody Clarke. Playing in a higher division (2) should help them overcome Mountnugent.  The Munchies should beat Kildallan now that its in Breffni.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up-again on September 01, 2010, 09:00:12 PM
Well lads,

Something weird happened to my last account, couldn't log in no matter what I tried to do over the last few weeks - I am sure you all remember me.  ;D

I saw in the Celt today we are looking towards the HOPE programme.

Hard Work
Opportunity
Progression
Energy

Not such if that was actually that but it was something similar. Sounds pretty gay and a little cliched but already sounds better than the last regime if they implement it to any degree.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cogito on September 01, 2010, 09:30:01 PM
Was told by a reliable source today that Canavan was approached by both Cavan and Fermanagh but he said that he won't be going into IC management for another few years.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on September 01, 2010, 09:38:50 PM
Heard Val talking about his HOPE program on the radio the other night. This is the sort of guff you tend to hear at work training courses by these management guru's that are hawking their wares. Tends to turn a fair few people off but those that stick with it tend to get something from some of these theories, not sure how you apply it to the simple task getting out there and kicking a ball around but sure we'll see.

In fairness to him, comes across as a lot more animated and enthusiastic than Tommy did, at least in the media.

Not a huge surprise if Canavan turned ourselves and the neighbours down, there's a good chance he'll get better offers to start his inter county career on a positive note.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on September 02, 2010, 03:23:29 AM
Andrews has some sort of a qualification in psychology and stuff, so he tends to talk about this sort of thing a lot.

I have little or no opinion on his appointment. At least there's finally somebody in charge now but the inclusion of King when his standing is so low in the county managerial-wise, smacks of tokenism. As does the joint managers thing, which could be a disaster. The last half-successful management duo was Art McRory and Eugene McKenna in Tyrone but they clearly divided their duties and knew where they stood. Hyland on the other hand would clearly have had designs on the top job and may not be willing to share or may try to go beyond his remit, whatever it may or may not have been established to be. Then again, him and Val go back a long way and have a good friendship, maybe we might even have seen this coming.

Who knows what will happen? I certainly won't be getting my knickers in a twist worrying about it anyway, Cavan senior football has long since stopped giving anything back to supporters like you or me and it's still all about the minors and U21s AFAIC.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on September 02, 2010, 12:22:02 PM
The Kildare credo of -10  +16 seemed to work well this season (eventually) so let us wait and see.

How has Managenent watch been going?  Have the management team been seen at any games so far?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on September 02, 2010, 12:53:54 PM
Quote from: Denn Forever on September 02, 2010, 12:22:02 PM
The Kildare credo of -10  +16 seemed to work well this season (eventually) so let us wait and see.

How has Managenent watch been going?  Have the management team been seen at any games so far?

I don't think that is one aspect where the management will be found wanting. I'm sure Terry will have most games covered.
Talking about aims for the year or 3 year term its hard to know what should be the objectives. Promotion should probably be the main one but then look at what Roscommon did this year against a team who went in the opposite direction (Sligo). Although I still say playing at least Div 2 football is a must for Cavan in the next 2 years.
A Full-Back has to be found and would be of more immediate importance than any long term objective because basically without a good, comfortable full-back we are going nowhere.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Breffni_Yank on September 02, 2010, 07:34:25 PM
I am cautiously optimistic about the new management. Im just happy to have people there that seem enthusiastic about Cavan football.

I read the celt today and I get the impression we are going to be a lot of new faces....who they are though beats me  ???

I would imagine 3 or 4 u21's will be given a genuine chance and agree that Terry will be alot of games so it will be interesting to see what kind of panel is put together. I think that orignal panel will be a good indicator if the new management ar going in the right direction.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up-again on September 02, 2010, 07:48:07 PM
Quote from: boojangles on September 02, 2010, 12:53:54 PM
Quote from: Denn Forever on September 02, 2010, 12:22:02 PM
The Kildare credo of -10  +16 seemed to work well this season (eventually) so let us wait and see.

How has Managenent watch been going?  Have the management team been seen at any games so far?

I don't think that is one aspect where the management will be found wanting. I'm sure Terry will have most games covered.
Talking about aims for the year or 3 year term its hard to know what should be the objectives. Promotion should probably be the main one but then look at what Roscommon did this year against a team who went in the opposite direction (Sligo). Although I still say playing at least Div 2 football is a must for Cavan in the next 2 years.
A Full-Back has to be found and would be of more immediate importance than any long term objective because basically without a good, comfortable full-back we are going nowhere.

I think that should be out main goal for the year and it is definitely possible if you hit the ground running. Divisione 3 is very much a level playing field.

I too will be very interested to see the first panel that is picked. I think a lot of familiar faces will be cut. It will do the set up no harm either. A good clean-out is needed and the lads that have the good attitudes will prove themselves and force their way back in.

One thing I would say is there is very little star quality in the county. T & V are going to have to scour the county and find players that have the raw attributes needed to fill a certain position. There are no polished gems, or very few of them, and I think a lot of coaching/polishing will need to be done in the months of January, Feb and March to get the new faces, be young or old, familiar with the game-plan.

The happy go lucky football, where we go out and try to play nice attacking football and if we get bet we get bet has to stop. We need to start maximising limited resources and become a hard-worlking team that is hard to beat. If that means dropping a few talented lads that won't do the donkey work on the field then so be it.

i think we need our own version of what went on in Dublin this year. Shake-up the panel and get players to fit a system. Nobody expects Cavan to go out and win something but it would be alot nicer if we could go out and genuinely put it up (forgive the pun) to teams like Roscommon, Sligo, Limerick did this year. We need to stop trying to out-play teams (which has failed us miserably recently) and focus on starting to out-work them.  That would be a solid foundation and if the new management come close to implementing that philosophy in their first year I will be happy.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on September 02, 2010, 09:19:46 PM
PIU, would you take that cyaavan yoke away from your name.
I agree that the first panel will be indicative and if certain people are still on it then I'll be watching league football in front of the TV ather than around the country.
I don't however think there needs to be a huge overhaul of the players if you think of who has been in around the scene over the past 5-10 years. I won't go into who I think shouldn't be there but I'd like to see a new keeper in the panel or at least see your man from Drumlane get more of a chance. As Boojangles said FB is probably our biggest problem and the word is that Eoin Smith wasn't so good for his club in the championship. I've no reall suggestions except your man from Lavey who I'd like to see getting a go. But I would dearly love to see Keith Fannin back in and playing somewhere further forward than he's been allowed to in the past. The likes of Pierson and Lyng, if fully committed (and that's a massive if) should be brought in. Trevor Crowe obviously and I don't want to hear about age being a problem. I hear that Declan McKiernan is out for a while but I'd like to see him and Gearóid and the third McKiernan lad from Lacken brought in for a run. Also Rory Dunne needs to come back in.
What I'm getting at is that we've had plenty of good players in and around the panel and for a variety of reasons we haven't seen the best of them, be it their temperament, the lack of motivation being given to them or playing out of positoin. If we can get the HOPE operation in action we could have a decent team.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on September 02, 2010, 09:25:16 PM
In fairness to Val the last time he was around he brought in a fair few faces the year we got to an Ulster Final-Prior, Rory Donohoe, Jackson, Doonan, McRudden so maybe there are a few he can bring in this time out. To prove what a sad life I lead is went to my rain soaked programme from that terrible day down in Cork and I see that the panel of 29 that day ilnclude a total of 6 from our four senior county semi finalists. Nothing scientific there but you would hope that there might be one or two to come through from that source. I won't start on the Cavan Gaels issue again.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up-again on September 02, 2010, 09:44:29 PM
Initially, I would keep 10 or 12 of last year's panel as a core group and I would strip the rest of it back. If them lads prove their worth through form then I would gladly accept them back in. You would have to agree Lawrence that a fair few of the boys I am talking about  are there on some kind of reputation when the fact is their form has been quite poor domestically. I think Val and Terry need to go looking for the right attitude between talent and work-rate. And as stupid as the HOPE thing sounds it makes sense.

One thing I will say AC39 is, there are not too many lads from Kingscourt or Ramor that jump out. Colm and Philly Smith played well, as did Alan Clarke who is already in with Cavan, when I saw Kingscourt but after them too I wasn't impressed with Kingscourt at all.

Nobody caught my eye for Ramor. That is what I mean about having no stars. It's up to the new management to identify key attributes in players that might not have gotten a chance before and to try and bring them on.

Agree with you Lawrence on Fannin though, I think he is brilliant at WF. We still need a dirty old fashioned corner back, a reasurring FB (most county's do). I think Gearoid McKiernan and Givney are the only way to go midfield. If you could coax Crowe to come in and be a father figure all the better.

With regards to that McKiernan lad from Lacken, I think he is only 19. I would let him settle in with the u21's first and see how he fares there.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BigMac on September 02, 2010, 11:26:25 PM
Would Terry's Lacken pull be able to coax Crowe to come in? Agree we need to find a full back, but i genuinely think most players have been tried in the county at this stage. Does anyone honestly think were going to up root a full back (or any other position) that hasnt been in before or talked about a hundred times. I dont think there is a really good player worth of getting a place on the team that hasnt been in about development panels or underage teams before that previous managment didnt know about.
Sorry about the negative attitude, but its only negative on the player recruiting side of things. Still hope that terry and val can throw a few shapes, and should be given a fair shot, without being critisized before a ball has been kicked. Although I did say Terry wasnt the right man for the job, he has it now so everything possible should be done to support himself and Val.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on September 03, 2010, 07:36:30 AM
PIU, would you take that cyaavan yoke away from your name.



While we're on the nit picking topic Lawrence maybe you'd like to refrain from your occasional "comedy routine" at the expense of Lorcan Mulvey.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Breffni_Yank on September 03, 2010, 09:35:34 AM
Quote from: whats my name on September 03, 2010, 09:20:19 AM
comedy routine at the expense of lorcan mulvey check this out http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZU0czh5v4AE

Please tell me that is not the same Mulvey that plays wit Cavan? Please Please Please.

And Yes PIU take that Cyyyavan thing down you big eegit, us Cavan folk get enough stick as it is!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on September 03, 2010, 11:49:47 AM
I'd agree with boojangles, very unfair on the lad.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on September 03, 2010, 11:59:30 AM
Yeh, a bit out of order there putting up that link. In fairness, I'd say there are not too many of us that would like to be followed on a night out on the beer by pricks with video cameras. Best to remove that, stick to his comedy on the field.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: whats my name on September 03, 2010, 12:41:42 PM
 it was on youtube so the whole world can see it not my problem at all. ill take it down from here but its still up on youtube so i cant do anything about it i just thought it was funny thats it.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on September 03, 2010, 02:28:27 PM
Quote from: whats my name on September 03, 2010, 12:41:42 PM
it was on youtube so the whole world can see it not my problem at all. ill take it down from here but its still up on youtube so i cant do anything about it i just thought it was funny thats it.

You put it up here so it is your problem. If you were an Inter-County footballer would ya like if it was done on you?? Don't think so. Still an amateur sport so everybody is entitled to their privacy believe it or not.
To get rid of the link from the thread Im deleting my original reply- Maybe Breffni Yank and Beer Baron would do the same.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on September 03, 2010, 03:12:32 PM
To be fair to ,whats my name ,lads
Its not a video which shows Mulvey in a bad light,just him having the craic at the fleadh.
It may not be appropriate for here,but its not the worst thing thats ever been posted about a player/club on this thread.
Lorcan being the sound lad,that he is,im sure he wouldnt mind.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up-again on September 03, 2010, 07:39:29 PM
I dont see the problem with that video at all. Cavan were well out of the championship at that stage he was entitled to be dancing on the streets drunk like the rest of us were. If someone hada got a recording of me dancing and put it on Youtube I would guess Simon Cowell would have been on to me know for Britains got Talent because I was on fire down there  ;D

He was having the crack in the off-season so let him be
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on September 03, 2010, 09:47:07 PM
Knockbride beat Drumgoon by 3 points there in Kingscourt this evening. 12 points to 9.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dougal on September 03, 2010, 10:04:35 PM
pity i didnt realise it was on this evening,i had to pass my evening watching muck up in mullahoran.val terry and stephen were all there,ive already seen val at more matches than tommy.denn won by the way.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on September 03, 2010, 10:12:39 PM
Quote from: Dougal on September 03, 2010, 10:04:35 PM
pity i didnt realise it was on this evening,i had to pass my evening watching muck up in mullahoran.val terry and stephen were all there,ive already seen val at more matches than tommy.denn won by the way.

Remind me who Denn were playing again?

Knockbride were impressive enough - would take a bit of minding by most in a semi....  Usual suspects still doing it for them
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dougal on September 03, 2010, 10:32:04 PM
crosserlough,was a pretty poor game.crosserlough in relegation final for the second year in a row,and id say they will go down.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on September 04, 2010, 09:12:50 AM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on September 03, 2010, 03:12:32 PM
To be fair to ,whats my name ,lads
Its not a video which shows Mulvey in a bad light,just him having the craic at the fleadh.
It may not be appropriate for here,but its not the worst thing thats ever been posted about a player/club on this thread.
Lorcan being the sound lad,that he is,im sure he wouldnt mind.

Exactly. If people want to look at videos of Cavan footballers or any other Tom, Dick or Harry thats what Youtube is for. A discussion board for football is not the place.
Lorcan probably wouldn't mind but its not really the point. If he wants people to see it, he can put it up himself.
Sorry for acting like the Board police here but privacy has to be respected for everybody, not just IC footballers. Youtube, Facebook etc are for things like that. Lets keep this to football discussion.

Whens the Killygarry-Redhills game on?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: beer baron on September 04, 2010, 12:03:57 PM
Over at Knockbride Drumgoon game last night,Tierney was immense as usual,Peter's still got a bit of class about him and Larry likewise though was kept pretty quiet for most of the game but then hit 3 nice points in a 5 minute period when Drumgoon were getting back in the game.Rogers hit one of the sweetest points you'll see in club championship 2  minutes into the game from out in the corner but was kept quiet enough oterwise!Drumgoon were disappointing,Hannon,Fannin etc. didn't step up when they were needed to,Paddy mc cabe was the one doing the only damage on the scoreboard and tried motivate the rest,goonies had Paul mc cabe on the bench and i expected him on last 10 minutes to try get a score or 2,presume he's injured or not training?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on September 04, 2010, 12:06:19 PM
It would be weird to see Crosserlough relegated. 

According to the Arva wesbsite, its at your ground at 16.00.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up-again on September 04, 2010, 12:12:34 PM
So the Goonies bottled it again?

Its unreal to think that the likes of Larry Peter and Rogers are still carrying Knockbride. How many times have we said this will be their last year?

There is no doubting Tierney's footballing brain at all. I wasn't at the game last night but I would imagine that he was the chief supplier for the Knocks dangerous attack.

Was a draw for th semi's done or will that be tonight?

My money would be on Crosserlough to get relegated aswell. They have been struggling for a while now.. I would say that game against Denn was some thriller  ::) Surprised to hear all three of the new management were at that game rather than one or two having a look at the Drumgoon game.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Kingscourt Stars on September 04, 2010, 02:37:18 PM
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All told, a prize well worth winning so why not try your luck and simultaneously help support a harmless wee GAA club just trying to get by in these tough aul' times.......

To enter just click on www.kingscourtstars.ie and try your luck.... It only costs a €10, sure that would hardly get you a burger in The Aviva!!

Regards

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Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dougal on September 04, 2010, 09:17:29 PM
we drew with drumlane.anyone know how the other games went?i see redhills beat killygarry.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on September 04, 2010, 09:56:08 PM
Bailieboro won by 6 I think. Drumalee won by 1.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on September 05, 2010, 07:26:41 PM
Intermediate draw

Drumlane/Killeshandra V Bailieboro
Drumalee V Knockbride

Junior

Swad V Shercock/Mountnugent
Shannon Gaels V Munchies
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Swadman on September 05, 2010, 08:23:39 PM
Mountnugent beat Shercock 1:10 to 0:08 in Virginia - Big shock
Munchies beat Kildallanan and Swad beat Arva  -  No shock
I was at the Swad Arva game and saw Terry in the stand only to see him be be joined by ............DONAL ||||
(Notify Tom Smith)
I see a "Talalght strategy" unfolding.
They may have come to see the return of Gearoid McK from the US but if they weren't sitting down within 5 min of the start then they missed his cameo. Idiot retaliated and got a red. Swad still trounced Arva with 14 on a scoreline of 1:18 to 0:06
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on September 05, 2010, 09:23:24 PM
Gearoid's temper really only seems to boil over at club level? It's something he really needs to get in check. I've been at a few games where he should have saw the line and perhaps the ref held back because he was on the county. I hear Mark Cunningham played a stormer. He's one of the few junior talents that could be given a chance at county level. Is Chris Curran playing with Swad these days?

Certainly looks like Swad should be on for the double if they keep this form up.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dougal on September 06, 2010, 01:50:07 PM
U21 championship draws


Hotel Kilmore Under 21 Championship Division 1:

First Round:

Drumloman v Slieve Glah Gaels Team 1

Cavan Gaels v Gowna Team 2

St Joseph's v Castlerahan Team 3

Ramor/Munterconnacht v Lavey Team 4

St Finbarr's v St Killian's Team 5

Erne Gaels v Kingscourt Team 6

Quarter Finals:



Ballinagh v Team 5

Team 1 v Team 4

Team 2 v Team 3

Team 6 v Corglass

• Extra Time if necessary in games up to and including Quarter Finals.
• First name team has home advantage up to and including Quarter Finals.
• Start Date 09/10 October 2010.


Hotel Kilmore Under 21 Championship Division 2:


First Round:

Shercock v Ballyhaise Team 1

Drumgoon v Bailieboro Team 2

Mountnugent v Drumlane Team 3


Quarter Finals:

Cootehill v Team 3

Team 2 v Laragh Utd

Shannon Gaels v Drumalee

Knockbride v Team 1

• Extra Time if necessary in games up to and including Quarter Finals.
• First name team has home advantage up to and including Quarter Finals.
• Start Date 09/10 October 2010.


who are drumloman??ive been told loads of time who slieve glah gaels are but can never remeber.is it killygarry and denn or something?

erne gaels will be a serious team,beturbet still have a load of lads that got to the final last year and redhills have dunne minagh leddy and a couple other very good players.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: PhilsJemmysField on September 07, 2010, 10:36:00 AM
drumloman  ---> Think is Mullahoran and Ballymcchugh

Did not manage to see the Drumlane Killeshandra game. Do Killeshandra have McKiernan back or is he a long term injury at this stage ?

Peter is giving it one hell of a last year with the Knocks, was literally not able to walk at the start of the game but you could see him fight his way into a game. Hope he does not go and do himself long term harm. Would like to see him do it but from looking at Drumalee that will be tight stuff
Still in a state of shock that BBoro are in a semi but they have every chance now
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on September 07, 2010, 10:37:35 AM
I'm hearing a few whispers of fixtures for the weekend.
Anyone got a comprehensive list. Is it Killygarry that are in the relegation final with the 'lough?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on September 07, 2010, 10:58:12 AM
Quote from: Lawrence of Knockbride on September 07, 2010, 10:37:35 AM
I'm hearing a few whispers of fixtures for the weekend.
Anyone got a comprehensive list. Is it Killygarry that are in the relegation final with the 'lough?

Yes Friday @8.00

Full list...

http://www.sportsmanager.ie/t7.php?userid=&report=1&reporttype=fixtures&sportid=1&club_id=&clubid=&nextweek=1&countyid=4&contentcountyid=4&contentsportid=1
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: PhilsJemmysField on September 07, 2010, 12:21:50 PM



Friday, 10th September 2010 @ 8pm
Hotel Kilmore Senior Championship Relegation Play Off
Crosserlough v Killygarry
Venue:  Kingspan Breffni Park
Referee:  MG Brady
Linesmen:  Jim Giblin & Kieran McCarville

Saturday, 11th September 2010 @ 3pm
Hotel Kilmore Junior C Special Competition Semi Finals
Knockbride v Ballyhaise (Game at 6pm)
Venue:  PJ Duke Park, Stradone
Referee: Ronan Bannon
Shercock v Bailieboro
Venue:  O'Raghallaigh Park, Kingscourt
Referee:  Seamus O'Connor

Saturday, 11th September 2010 @ 3pm
Hotel Kilmore Junior D Special Competition Semi Finals
Arva v Templeport
Venue:  O'Connell Park, Drumlane
Referee:  Brendan Sweeney

Saturday, 11th September 2010 @ 6.30pm
Hotel Kilmore Junior Championship Semi Final
Munterconnacht v Shannon Gaels
Venue:  Kingspan Breffni Park
Referee:  Joe McQuillan
Linesmen:  Jim Hyland & Packie Smith
04th Official:  Chris McCaffrey

Saturday, 11th September 2010 @ 8pm
Hotel Kilmore Senior Championship Semi Final
Kingscourt v Ramor Utd
Venue:  Kingspan Breffni Park
Referee:  Jimmy Galligan - Killygarry
Linesmen:  Ollie Henry & Thomas Doonan
04th Official:  Packie Smith
Sunday, 12th September 2010 @ 12.30pm
Imperial Bar A.C.F.L. Division 1 Round 7
Redhills v Lavey
Referee:  Martin Sexton

Sunday, 12th September 2010 @ 1pm
Hotel Kilmore Junior D Special Competition Semi Finals
Shannon Gaels v Bailieboro
Venue:  Rory O'Moore's Park, Belturbet
Referee:  John Emmo

Sunday, 12th September 2010 @ 1.45pm
Hotel Kilmore Intermediate Championship Quarter Final Replay
Drumlane v Killeshandra
Venue:  Kingspan Breffni Park
Referee:  Noel Mooney
Linesmen:  Padraig Kelleher & Martin Brady - Lacken

* Extra Time if necessary

Sunday, 12th September 2010 @ 3.30pm
Hotel Kilmore Senior Championship Semi Final
Cavan Gaels v Mullahoran
Venue:  Kingspan Breffni Park
Referee:  Raymond Kelly ::)
Linesmen:  Raymond Tynan & John Cassidy
04th Official:  Michael Lee

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cogito on September 10, 2010, 01:58:45 PM
Has an assassination squad taken out all regular members of the Cavan GAA Board??

I hope your all out trying to get fit to impressive the new dynamic duo  ;D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4sam on September 10, 2010, 02:29:28 PM
Not going to be out trying to impress the new management team myself but I will be down in Breffni on Saturday evening to watch both games, I suppose I will have to cheer on both the neighbouring teams.

Any predictions for the 3 winners at this stage?

Ill go for Gaels, Drumlane & Swad.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on September 10, 2010, 02:39:05 PM
All hail the Arva website. All the info you need at the touch of a button.
http://www.arvaghgfc.com/fixtures.html

Come on Mullahoran on Sunday.  Nobody thought Tipp would do it so maybe it is time for the underdog.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4sam on September 10, 2010, 03:08:26 PM
I hope your right and Mullahoran do take them, they haven't fired at all this year yet so hopefully they go out, I think it would be good for Cavan football.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Terry Coyle on September 10, 2010, 03:51:25 PM
Ah lads no need for that - I thought the whole county was behind us!  :P

Actually C4sam, you say it would be better for Cavan football but this is a statement that I never really got. Take my Gaels bias out of it for a moment so firstly I am not on a rant about it being against us - its a common statement said about pretty much every successful team. It never did Armagh any harm when Crossmaglen were winning every year, nor do I think hurling in Ireland has deteriorated after Kilkenny winning 4 in a row. Just wonder your thoughts behind it! Was I the only one wanting Kilkenny to win last weekend? - 5 in a row never been done before so it would have been good to see history made. Probably just for neutral I suppose its better, but better for football in the county - I dont think so.

As for predictions - Gaels and Kingscourt to win in senior semi's. I reckon Drumlane will take the leaguers in the replay - they appear to be missing McKiernan a lot. Swad to win the junior out.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4sam on September 10, 2010, 04:00:03 PM
My reason for saying it is for lads playing on other club teams, it gets very disheartening to see the same team win it year after year, so it might give every other team in the county a bit of hope if they see someone else win for a change.

I don't want to start a debate here because this has be played out several times before but when Cross were winning it they had several men on the county team, Hearty, Bellew, Kernan, McEntees, McConville and more on the panel, this year there were only 2 Gaels men, Johnston and Walsh.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up-again on September 10, 2010, 04:04:37 PM
I would be concerned that Clubs are happy to see the Gaels standards dropping. Which no offence they have Terry Coyle. They have been nowhere near as ruthless this year as they have been in the past.

What would be of more benefit is if all the other clubs were doing every they could to get up to the standard the Gaels have set over the last few years. Have they genuinely tried to do that? I don't think so.

Only then will Cavan football really benefit.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4sam on September 10, 2010, 04:08:15 PM
Lads the standard of football is dropping as more and more lads are moving away to find work, we lost 4/5 championship starters in the last 12 months and Ive heard of 3 more that are heading away in the next 6 months. We are goin backwards anyway, I don't know about any other clubs. Actually I heard Crosserlough lost 30 lads in the last 2 years, don't know how accurate that was though...
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up-again on September 10, 2010, 04:13:10 PM
You don't think lads are emigrating in other counties? Only yesterday I read Louth have lost 4 starters from their team this year..

Our club scene has been poor for years and I'm not buying into the emigration excuse and I think it is sad that team's are happy to see the Gaels slipping to closer to them rather than themselves climbing from mediocrity up to a decent standard.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Terry Coyle on September 10, 2010, 04:18:54 PM
Put it up no offence taken, actually quite the opposite. Totally agree with you - our lads standards have dropped, I just hope they can get back to where they were in the past. They have not played well in the championship to date so they better shake up or they will be out on Sunday, no doubt about it.

If, as PIU has said, other clubs tried to get standards up that would be better for football then. Now I know every club does that to some extent but its more beneficial to exceed the best team at any given sport than to hope to beat them.

Nevertheless, it is pretty tough for clubs this weather. If thats true about Crosserlough then fair dues to them for still being senior (for the time being anyway!)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up-again on September 10, 2010, 04:24:03 PM
Quote from: Terry Coyle on September 10, 2010, 04:18:54 PM
Put it up no offence taken, actually quite the opposite. Totally agree with you - our lads standards have dropped, I just hope they can get back to where they were in the past. They have not played well in the championship to date so they better shake up or they will be out on Sunday, no doubt about it.

If, as PIU has said, other clubs tried to get standards up that would be better for football then. Now I know every club does that to some extent but its more beneficial to exceed the best team at any given sport than to hope to beat them.

Nevertheless, it is pretty tough for clubs this weather. If thats true about Crosserlough then fair dues to them for still being senior (for the time being anyway!)

My own take on your temporary slip TC would be the loss of several of the younger players removed a lot of the competition for places and I imagine, naturally enough, that some of the older lads may have eased off the gas a little..

If 30 people emigrated from Crosserlough is there anyone left  ;D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4sam on September 10, 2010, 04:33:38 PM
Look, ideally it would be best if other teams could improve and get up to the standard that the Gaels have set and then surpass them but I honestly cant see that happening.

I know other counties have a problem with emigration and consequently the standard of club football has dropped in my opinion from talking to lads I know from Meath, Monaghan, Louth and Longford.

Its good to see the likes of Ramor, Kingscourt and Bailieboro coming strong again and especially at underage levels.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on September 10, 2010, 04:46:54 PM
I agree with Terry Coyle although I think most of  us are saying the same thing. If the Gaels' standards are slipping it's probably due to lads being away or complacency. This won't help the Gaels in Ulster and I don't think it will help the other clubs in Cavan either as they will know in their hearts the real reason they're getting closer to the gaels.
As with all our other problems, the problem needs to be sorted out at underage, which I think it might be.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4sam on September 10, 2010, 05:19:46 PM
Are you lads really trying to tell me that if you had a Senior championship medal in your pocket that you would be sitting there looking into your pint saying 'this means f**k all because we only won it cause the gaels weren't as good'. I know i would celebrate and do it in style. At the end of the day you have to beat whats in front of you, and if you win the championship you are the best team in the county end of story. We wont be winning it anytime soon but it would be nice.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on September 10, 2010, 05:56:23 PM
Of course I would but I reckon if that happened the Gaels would come back with a point to prove next year and it would all become apparent what had happened. But you're right, the other teams can only beat who they play.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up-again on September 10, 2010, 08:48:17 PM
Quote from: cavan4sam on September 10, 2010, 05:19:46 PM
Are you lads really trying to tell me that if you had a Senior championship medal in your pocket that you would be sitting there looking into your pint saying 'this means f**k all because we only won it cause the gaels weren't as good'. I know i would celebrate and do it in style. At the end of the day you have to beat whats in front of you, and if you win the championship you are the best team in the county end of story. We wont be winning it anytime soon but it would be nice.

Of course I would you mad sausage. I would drink until I dropped. But I wasn't talkin about that - I was saying if Cavan football is to progress it needs other clubs going up rather than the best team in the county coming down to the rest.

This breakdown of county representatives from this year's semi-finalists

Ramor - 0
Kingscourt - 1
Gaels - 2
Mullahoran - 3

Drumlane/Killeshandra 1 each
Bailieborough - 0
Drumalee - 0
Knockbride - 0

Swanlinbar - 0
Mountnugent - 1
Munchies - 0
Shannon Gaels - 0

I don't know what to make of that to be honest..
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on September 10, 2010, 09:53:06 PM
If you did that for the starting 15 it becomes even more worrying..
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up-again on September 10, 2010, 09:59:42 PM
Then again if you go through the teams, particularly the senior ones, it gets even more worrying because there are not a whole pile of names that jump out...
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on September 10, 2010, 10:10:31 PM
The players that have been there for the past few years are the standout performers for their clubs. But it's no good having Martin Reilly out there scoring 1-5 for Killigarry every weekend and then not being able to have any impact at county level. (Just an example no insult to the fella)

Perhaps there are guys out there who don't stand out as much with their clubs but could hold their own at county level also? Or maybe that's just wishful thinking.. But a shake up is badly needed that much is certain.

On another note anyone know why Paddy Gumley was not on the panel last year? He was doing well with the provisional squad in Carr's first year and was flying it, I know he had health issues but I assumed he would return once he was sorted...
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dougal on September 10, 2010, 10:46:33 PM
crosserlough in intermediate next yaer (unless the CB change their mind).glad i didnt go in the end,the lough only scored 2 points to killygarry 1-5 (i presume that was all from martin reilly westside  ;D).
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on September 10, 2010, 11:01:53 PM
2 points!? In a senior Championship game!? Maybe i put some sort of curse on them..  ;D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on September 11, 2010, 09:49:38 AM
Quote from: put-it-up-again on September 10, 2010, 08:48:17 PM
Quote from: cavan4sam on September 10, 2010, 05:19:46 PM
Are you lads really trying to tell me that if you had a Senior championship medal in your pocket that you would be sitting there looking into your pint saying 'this means f**k all because we only won it cause the gaels weren't as good'. I know i would celebrate and do it in style. At the end of the day you have to beat whats in front of you, and if you win the championship you are the best team in the county end of story. We wont be winning it anytime soon but it would be nice.

Of course I would you mad sausage. I would drink until I dropped. But I wasn't talkin about that - I was saying if Cavan football is to progress it needs other clubs going up rather than the best team in the county coming down to the rest.

This breakdown of county representatives from this year's semi-finalists

Ramor - 0
Kingscourt - 1
Gaels - 2
Mullahoran - 3

Drumlane/Killeshandra 1 each
Bailieborough - 0
Drumalee - 0
Knockbride - 0

Swanlinbar - 0
Mountnugent - 1
Munchies - 0
Shannon Gaels - 0

I don't know what to make of that to be honest..

Mickey Brennan
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dougal on September 11, 2010, 01:39:19 PM
Quote from: boojangles on September 11, 2010, 09:49:38 AM
Quote from: put-it-up-again on September 10, 2010, 08:48:17 PM
Quote from: cavan4sam on September 10, 2010, 05:19:46 PM
Are you lads really trying to tell me that if you had a Senior championship medal in your pocket that you would be sitting there looking into your pint saying 'this means f**k all because we only won it cause the gaels weren't as good'. I know i would celebrate and do it in style. At the end of the day you have to beat whats in front of you, and if you win the championship you are the best team in the county end of story. We wont be winning it anytime soon but it would be nice.

Of course I would you mad sausage. I would drink until I dropped. But I wasn't talkin about that - I was saying if Cavan football is to progress it needs other clubs going up rather than the best team in the county coming down to the rest.

This breakdown of county representatives from this year's semi-finalists

Ramor - 0
Kingscourt - 1
Gaels - 2
Mullahoran - 3

Drumlane/Killeshandra 1 each
Bailieborough - 0
Drumalee - 0
Knockbride - 0

Swanlinbar - 0
Mountnugent - 1
Munchies - 0
Shannon Gaels - 0

I don't know what to make of that to be honest..

Mickey Brennan

i forgot about mickey aswell.drumlane have dane and darren,what 3 do mullahoran have?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up-again on September 11, 2010, 02:37:43 PM
Apologies BooJ completely completely forgot about Mickey.

Mullahoran had Dermot Sheridan and Philip and Paul Brady
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on September 11, 2010, 03:40:23 PM
Quote from: Denn Forever on September 10, 2010, 02:39:05 PM
Come on Mullahoran on Sunday.  Nobody thought Tipp would do it so maybe it is time for the underdog.

Never thought I would see an amalgamation team with Mullahoran in it.  And Crosserlough down to Intermediate.  There are some strange things happening in the world.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on September 11, 2010, 06:17:23 PM
Quote from: Denn Forever on September 11, 2010, 03:40:23 PM
Quote from: Denn Forever on September 10, 2010, 02:39:05 PM
Come on Mullahoran on Sunday.  Nobody thought Tipp would do it so maybe it is time for the underdog.

Never thought I would see an amalgamation team with Mullahoran in it.   And Crosserlough down to Intermediate.  There are some strange things happening in the world.

????????

Sad times indeed in Cavan football. Crosserlough and Mullahoran are the 2 biggest parishes in Cavan. If they are struggling well its says alot about the future for the GAA in Cavan. Crosserlough have been hit badly with emigration while Mullahorans youth seem to be slowly turning away from GAA. Although Mullahoran are a club that have always seemed to get away with the odd good Underage team. Although it is 12 or 13 years since they won a Div 1 U-21 Championship,and its longer since they have won a Minor Championship.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dougal on September 11, 2010, 08:31:48 PM
the parish is a fair size,but is mullahorans catchment area all that big?i always thought that it was but was told last year thats its not that big at all.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on September 11, 2010, 10:23:10 PM
Hotel Kilmore Senior Football Championship Semi Final
Kingscourt  0-15 1-8 Ramor United

Hotel Kilmore Junior Football Championship Finals Semi Final 
Munterconnacht  1-17 1-11 Shannon Gaels 

Hotel Kilmore Junior C Special Competition Semi Finals 
Knockbride  0-4 0-18 Ballyhaise  Stradone
Shercock  2-5 1-8 Bailieboro  Kingscourt

Hotel Kilmore Junior D Special Competition  Semi Final
Arva  2-8 2-8 Templeport 
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on September 11, 2010, 11:05:18 PM
Anybody at the games this evening?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up-again on September 11, 2010, 11:50:49 PM
Pretty comfy for Kingscourt tonight. Ramor started well but completely faded away and Kingscourt owned the ball for the lost 15 minutes of the first when they pulled clear. Very disappointed with Ramor. They kept trying to deliver the ball from too deep and were literally just kickin the ball straight to blue jerseys. Barry Reilly was impressive, so was Philip Smith. 

It is great for them to be back in the final but I'm not concinced they can compete with the Gaels/Mullahoran. They have come a long way this year but the final will be a big big test for them.

Something bizarre happened involving the ref. He literally just collapsed mid-way through the second half and was literally lying flat on his face on the grass for a few seconds. Then he jsut got back up when he came back around and walked off the pitch. Hope he is alright - apparently he has a pacemaker in heart.

Should be a great game in the park tomorrow - fingers crossed.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on September 12, 2010, 11:16:35 AM
Cheers PIUA. Who was the ref?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up-again on September 12, 2010, 11:20:17 AM
I think it was Jimmy Galligan from Killygarry but I'm really not sure..

What's the predictions for today lads?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on September 12, 2010, 12:16:42 PM
Gaels and I'm not sure about the other one but I can feel the power of the board pushing Killeshandra over the line. :)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up-again on September 12, 2010, 12:24:52 PM
I don't think Killeshandra have the firepower without Dec Mck.

The Gaels bench should be enough to see them through.

We'l find out soon enough  ;D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on September 12, 2010, 01:38:11 PM
Quote from: put-it-up-again on September 12, 2010, 11:20:17 AM
I think it was Jimmy Galligan from Killygarry but I'm really not sure..

What's the predictions for today lads?

Gaels and Drumlane
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on September 12, 2010, 04:28:55 PM
Drumlane beat Leaguers by 1 point.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on September 12, 2010, 05:22:15 PM
Hotel Kilmore Senior Football Championship Semi Final
Cavan Gaels  1-13 0-10 Mullahoran   

Hotel Kilmore Intermediate Football Championship Quarter Final Replay
Drumlane  0-10 1-6 Killeshandra   

ACFL Division 1
Redhills  3-19 0-6 Lavey 
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on September 12, 2010, 07:10:05 PM
Well the Gaels had all their players back for the semi, except Walsh which wasn't any disadvantage. Mullahoran ran into a 4 point lead but it was level at half-time and it all became too inevitable. I saw King hopping to and from his seat but not the other two lads.
If we're talking county lads we could take most of the gaels team and most of their bench. Seriously I reckon the bench was as strong. Niall Murray was very impressive as was Dominic Reilly at MF. I reckon he should get a run.
Drumlane were the better team in the first game which was tight and competitive. A strong spine to their team without any real stars. It's a pity Barry Corrigan lies down crying so much but there you go.
What about the league? Would that result send Denn and Crosserlough down?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on September 12, 2010, 07:37:14 PM
Think that could be Crosserlough gone now and if score difference comes into it Denn are busted too - Redhills are on 8 pts, Denn on 6 but Redhills are 62 points better off than Denn!

Kingscourt  14 13 1 0 243 157 86 26
Cavan Gaels  14 12 2 0 229 139 90 24
Mullahoran  14 9 4 1 199 161 38 19
Ballinagh  14 8 5 1 221 182 39 17
Killygarry  14 8 5 1 168 159 9 17
Lacken  14 7 4 3 201 192 9 17
Belturbet  14 8 5 1 158 153 5 17
Castlerahan  14 7 6 1 173 174 -1 15
Gowna  14 7 7 0 183 171 12 14
Killeshandra  14 5 8 1 183 206 -23 11
Lavey  14 5 8 1 164 207 -43 11
Cuchullains  14 4 9 1 192 220 -28 9
Ramor United  14 4 9 1 177 208 -31 9
Redhills  14 4 10 0 187 213 -26 8
Denn  14 3 11 0 137 225 -88 6
Crosserlough  14 2 12 0 138 186 -48 4
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up-again on September 12, 2010, 08:49:52 PM
Quote from: Lawrence of Knockbride on September 12, 2010, 07:10:05 PM
Well the Gaels had all their players back for the semi, except Walsh which wasn't any disadvantage. Mullahoran ran into a 4 point lead but it was level at half-time and it all became too inevitable. I saw King hopping to and from his seat but not the other two lads.
If we're talking county lads we could take most of the gaels team and most of their bench. Seriously I reckon the bench was as strong. Niall Murray was very impressive as was Dominic Reilly at MF. I reckon he should get a run.
Drumlane were the better team in the first game which was tight and competitive. A strong spine to their team without any real stars. It's a pity Barry Corrigan lies down crying so much but there you go.
What about the league? Would that result send Denn and Crosserlough down?

Mullahoran were short short on quaility in my opinion. At 5 to 2 up they had a brilliant goal chance with 3 on 1 but they squandered it. That woulda put them 6 ahead but instead they went in level at half-time. Agree on Murray, thought he had an excellent game. The Cavan Gaels FB line is there for the taking on that showing. Both corner-backs were poor and were only marking two 18 year olds. Collins struggled at full-back as well in my opinion.

Lyng was very quiet, so too was Dunne. McClarey is a real livewire and its bringing on lads like him that helps them win games late on.

Anyone else see Declan Meehan and one of the other Gaels lads swinging their handbags at each other?

In the intermediate game Killeshandra were desperately short up front. Drumlane were there for the taking today.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on September 12, 2010, 08:52:22 PM
Quote from: put-it-up-again on September 12, 2010, 08:49:52 PM
Quote from: Lawrence of Knockbride on September 12, 2010, 07:10:05 PM
Well the Gaels had all their players back for the semi, except Walsh which wasn't any disadvantage. Mullahoran ran into a 4 point lead but it was level at half-time and it all became too inevitable. I saw King hopping to and from his seat but not the other two lads.
If we're talking county lads we could take most of the gaels team and most of their bench. Seriously I reckon the bench was as strong. Niall Murray was very impressive as was Dominic Reilly at MF. I reckon he should get a run.
Drumlane were the better team in the first game which was tight and competitive. A strong spine to their team without any real stars. It's a pity Barry Corrigan lies down crying so much but there you go.
What about the league? Would that result send Denn and Crosserlough down?

Mullahoran were short short on quaility in my opinion. At 5 to 2 up they had a brilliant goal chance with 3 on 1 but they squandered it. That woulda put them 6 ahead but instead they went in level at half-time. Agree on Murray, thought he had an excellent game. The Cavan Gaels FB line is there for the taking on that showing. Both corner-backs were poor and were only marking two 18 year olds. Collins struggled at full-back as well in my opinion.

Lyng was very quiet, so too was Dunne. McClarey is a real livewire and its bringing on lads like him that helps them win games late on.

Anyone else see Declan Meehan and one of the other Gaels lads swinging their handbags at each other?

In the intermediate game Killeshandra were desperately short up front. Drumlane were there for the taking today.

What now?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on September 12, 2010, 08:54:59 PM
If we're talking county lads we could take most of the gaels team and most of their bench. Seriously I reckon the bench was as strong.


That, in a nutshell seems to define the dilemna we are in at inter county level.  A team that have dominated club football at a level comparable to Cross and St Galls, according to our representative on this site they won't be all that pushed about committing if Terry Hyland is on board (he is) and they weren't too chuffed about Donal or Tommy either. Terry has done about as much as any Cavan man when it comes to competing outside the county at club and county level over the last few years so where that leaves us I'm not sure. The Gaels lads aren't exactly loaded down with Ulster medals so that makes the fact that they have a problem committing to the County team a bit more disappointing, to me anyway. they might actually develop a bit more as players from a bit of time in an inter county panel.

Bottom line, hope to christ a few of them can be convinced to committ with the new management team.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Breffni_Yank on September 12, 2010, 09:13:46 PM
I made the trip down to Breffni today and expected an action packed game. To be honest I thought it was pretty poor.

Here is the Gaels team today. I'm just not convinced that a few of them coming in will save us.

Elliot - Better than what was there this year I admit but didnt inspire today
Dallan McCormack - Nope
Collins - Didn't impress today
Marc Leddy - Nope
Pauric Smith - Decent but I would pick McCutcheon or someone like that ahead of him
Chesty - Can certainly contribute
Gavin Duffy - He is solid. Would he greatly improve us - I'm not sure
Dominic Reily - Worth a look but is he better than Givney or Gearoid McKiernan?
Enda King - Doesn't have the physique for midfield at IC level
Forde - Has done his fair share for the county already
Lyng - Has been hot and cold for the last few years
Niall Smith - Lightning pace and no doubt he will eventually make it.
Johnston - His point in the second half was class
Niall Murray - Same as Smith. Both will be big players for the u21's next year but I'm not sure about throwing them into the senior set-up where there are no real leaders to look after them and urge them on.
Martin Dunne - Barely got a touch today
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on September 12, 2010, 09:32:38 PM
Fair enough analysis BY but Dominic would definitely add to our current MF and Duffy would add competition in the back-line, remember he was FB for a lot of the year in the league and we're not overflowing with full backs.
So along with Chesty and 2 U-21s that's a fair addition from one club to go with Johnston and Lyng if he wants to play.
Declan Meehan had a go at King probably cos King gave him shit for not doing something with the ball. King would probably be hard to play with as he never shuts his mouth but in saying that Meehan was only on. It gave the crowd something to cheer about.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up-again on September 12, 2010, 09:55:00 PM
I have to admit I know Murray and Smith are only young but I certainly think they could contribute for the seniors in a role of impact subs. Imagine being a tired defender and with ten minutes to go Smith comes on to you. At that stage he can cut a defence in half in a second. I think the new management will slowly look to introduce those kind of players rather than throwing them in at the deep end - which is what has happened before and ruined a few lads. Barry Watters is just one that comes to mind.

Duffy is very reliable and a good natural defender. He certainly could contribute and I think Chesty could bring a bit of natural leadership - something that is really missing in my view. I thought Leddy was poor myself to be honest Thatstheball but I would agree that King could play for Cavan in a scrappy WF role. His distribution is normally pretty sound and there is no doubting his work-rate.

I think any that has any interest in Cavan football has to forget who the management is and what has gone on in the past and jsut get in there and give it a go. You can't improve the situation if you are not involved. It' shockin easy to watch from the stand and say the whole thing is a joke!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Breffni_Yank on September 12, 2010, 10:15:14 PM
It's just my opinion but i dont think King is up to it. Speaking of King's I saw Stephen and our new managers in Breffni today.

I doubt they were too impressed with the Intermediate game. Jesus i thought it was desperate.

I honestly don't know who you would pick from Mullahoran. Dermot Sheridan was desperate in the attackign department. I think county-wise he has to be tried WB. Gunner was pretty quiet. I thought 6 done a good job, not sure who he was and can't remember the name. The programme is in the car but i really don't care that much  ;D

I was at the other semi-final last night too. (Been great to come home and cathc the business end of the championships!)

I honestly wouldn't say one lad from Ramor is good enough for IC football and from Kingscourt Barry Reilly caught the eye and i thought the FB looked decent. 11 for them done a lot of work too - again forgive the lack of names.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on September 13, 2010, 02:26:08 AM
Quote from: Lawrence of Knockbride on September 12, 2010, 09:32:38 PM
King would probably be hard to play with as he never shuts his mouth but in saying that Meehan was only on. It gave the crowd something to cheer about.

You'r very very harsh on Enda King there Lawrence. Definitely not a mouth and would be one of the fairest and hardest players playing for Cavan Gaels. I'm sure Terry Coyle or Thastheball(when he sobers up) would vouch for that. We could do worse than have a lad like Enda King about the county panel. IMO was the best midfielder on show today.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on September 13, 2010, 08:44:25 AM
No insult intended Boojangles although I can see from my post why you'd think that. He is very definitely a whole-hearted honest player but he's forever clapping and encouraging lads which I'd say would get on players' nerves (sounds silly but I think he just over does it).
As far as the county is concerned, he's been in and IMO hasn't done enough. But bring him in and look at him by all means.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on September 13, 2010, 11:01:27 AM
Quote from: Lawrence of Knockbride on September 13, 2010, 08:44:25 AM
No insult intended Boojangles although I can see from my post why you'd think that. He is very definitely a whole-hearted honest player but he's forever clapping and encouraging lads which I'd say would get on players' nerves (sounds silly but I think he just over does it).
As far as the county is concerned, he's been in and IMO hasn't done enough. But bring him in and look at him by all means.

No problem Lawrence, I picked it up the wrong way. I agree with you about the county team but how many lads have been on the Cavan panel for numerous seasons and still haven't done enough. Enda was on the panel in 2003 and maybe 1 other year. Judging him yesterday against other IC players he doesn't look below the standard and a spot at WF may suit him.

It has to be said though that going on both games yesterday it would be hard for Val and Terry to get excited about anything especially considering they were watching the favourites for the Senior Championship and also the favourites for the Intermediate championship.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on September 13, 2010, 12:01:59 PM
Well I won't mention any names  ::) but the more midfielders and full-backs the boys look at the better so I'll do a 180 and insist that King be brought in ;D.
You must have been out celebrating with your town-mates given the time of that post last night. :D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on September 13, 2010, 12:25:18 PM
Quote from: Lawrence of Knockbride on September 13, 2010, 12:01:59 PM
Well I won't mention any names  ::) but the more midfielders and full-backs the boys look at the better so I'll do a 180 and insist that King be brought in ;D.
You must have been out celebrating with your town-mates given the time of that post last night. :D

Celebrating what? sure they've won nothing yet. No, no celebrating for me, I'm on a strict diet of Water and DVDs the past week.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4sam on September 13, 2010, 06:10:39 PM
Quote from: Breffni_Yank on September 12, 2010, 10:15:14 PM
It's just my opinion but i dont think King is up to it. Speaking of King's I saw Stephen and our new managers in Breffni today.

I doubt they were too impressed with the Intermediate game. Jesus i thought it was desperate.

I honestly don't know who you would pick from Mullahoran. Dermot Sheridan was desperate in the attackign department. I think county-wise he has to be tried WB. Gunner was pretty quiet. I thought 6 done a good job, not sure who he was and can't remember the name. The programme is in the car but i really don't care that much  ;D

I was at the other semi-final last night too. (Been great to come home and cathc the business end of the championships!)

I honestly wouldn't say one lad from Ramor is good enough for IC football and from Kingscourt Barry Reilly caught the eye and i thought the FB looked decent. 11 for them done a lot of work too - again forgive the lack of names.

Was Killian Brady the CHB for Mullahoran yesterday? Can't say that I know much about the lad but I seen him playing against us twice this year and was very impressed by him. Apparently he is still only 19 so would like to see him brought in to the U21 set up and hopefully the lad can continue to develop.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on September 13, 2010, 07:51:49 PM
I'm pretty sure that was him alright. He spent a lot of the first half holding on to Niall Smith's shirt. After the third time (at least) he informed the referee who spoke to him but did nothing else. Still he stuck to an tough task so some plaudits.
Would I be right in thinking that Niall Smith and Daragh Tighe are U-21 next year. Add to that this Brady lad and McKiernan from Lacken. Who else from last year is underage again? Oh, and Barry Reilly of course.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dougal on September 13, 2010, 10:16:32 PM
Quote from: Lawrence of Knockbride on September 13, 2010, 07:51:49 PM
I'm pretty sure that was him alright. He spent a lot of the first half holding on to Niall Smith's shirt. After the third time (at least) he informed the referee who spoke to him but did nothing else. Still he stuck to an tough task so some plaudits.
Would I be right in thinking that Niall Smith and Daragh Tighe are U-21 next year. Add to that this Brady lad and McKiernan from Lacken. Who else from last year is underage again? Oh, and Barry Reilly of course.

gearoid and niall mckiernan,niall smith,murray? and mcdermot,tighe,mcclarey,maloney-derham,minagh,leddy.

plenty of talent in the u21s again this year.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on September 13, 2010, 10:20:22 PM
Quote from: Dougal on September 13, 2010, 10:16:32 PM
Quote from: Lawrence of Knockbride on September 13, 2010, 07:51:49 PM
I'm pretty sure that was him alright. He spent a lot of the first half holding on to Niall Smith's shirt. After the third time (at least) he informed the referee who spoke to him but did nothing else. Still he stuck to an tough task so some plaudits.
Would I be right in thinking that Niall Smith and Daragh Tighe are U-21 next year. Add to that this Brady lad and McKiernan from Lacken. Who else from last year is underage again? Oh, and Barry Reilly of course.

Don't start that carry on.....
gearoid and niall mckiernan,niall smith,murray? and mcdermot,tighe,mcclarey,maloney-derham,minagh,leddy.

plenty of talent in the u21s again this year.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on September 14, 2010, 01:32:28 AM
Quote from: Breffni_Yank on September 12, 2010, 09:13:46 PM
I made the trip down to Breffni today and expected an action packed game. To be honest I thought it was pretty poor.

Here is the Gaels team today. I'm just not convinced that a few of them coming in will save us.

Elliot - Better than what was there this year I admit but didnt inspire today
Dallan McCormack - Nope
Collins - Didn't impress today
Marc Leddy - Nope
Pauric Smith - Decent but I would pick McCutcheon or someone like that ahead of him
Chesty - Can certainly contribute
Gavin Duffy - He is solid. Would he greatly improve us - I'm not sure
Dominic Reily - Worth a look but is he better than Givney or Gearoid McKiernan?
Enda King - Doesn't have the physique for midfield at IC level
Forde - Has done his fair share for the county already
Lyng - Has been hot and cold for the last few years
Niall Smith - Lightning pace and no doubt he will eventually make it.
Johnston - His point in the second half was class
Niall Murray - Same as Smith. Both will be big players for the u21's next year but I'm not sure about throwing them into the senior set-up where there are no real leaders to look after them and urge them on.
Martin Dunne - Barely got a touch today
My opinion on the Gaels men.
Niall Smith and Niall Murray should be on the senior panel aswell as the under 21 panel next year.
Marc Leddy and McClarey and Maloney Derham on the under 21's.
Im not sure about Martin Dunne to be honest.

Eoin Elliot,Dominic Reily,Eamon Reily,Gavin Duffy,Pauric Smith and Enda King are all better than what was on the 30 man Cavan panel this year.

I havent been at a club match since we exited the championship,as ive just  turned off football completely so i havent seen them since they demolished Lavey in Breffini.
Iid like to see the Gaels subs bench if anyone has it.One things for sure ,the Gaels have a ridiculous amount of talent at their disposal.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on September 14, 2010, 08:39:24 AM
Here you are BH Man:
O'Riordan, Quinn, Nelligan, McClarey, Rabbitte, Meehan, Collins, Gurhy, Crotty, Meehan, Murphy, Gurhy, Heslin and O'Donnell. They'd give the first 15 a good game. Walshe missing from that too.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Breffni_Yank on September 14, 2010, 09:39:46 AM
The Gaels bench would no doubt win the intermediate championship anyway and would beat a right few senior teams...

With regards to u21's, going by the programme I have in my drawer here:

Tighe, Gearoid McKiernan, Niall Smith, Bary Reilly, Niall McDermottt Conor McClarey, Alan O'Meara, Minnagh, Maloney Dernham, Shane Tierney.

I think they are the only ones that are listed on the programme that are underage again - but I wouldn't be overly sure on a few others.

Add in Niall Murray who was travelling and Kevin Tierney and the likes of Colm Smith who is playing MF with Kingscourt it looks decent. Who is managing them?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on September 14, 2010, 10:41:44 AM
Forgot to add that Sean Reilly was injured from that list of Gaels subs too.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dougal on September 14, 2010, 11:00:20 AM
smith from kingscourt is u21?he caught my eye alright,a decent enough player.mcclarey is one of my favourite young players in the county,very lively and has a great eye for a short pass.i cant understand how he isnt starting for the gaels.

is daniel graham not still u21?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on September 14, 2010, 11:09:26 AM
Forgot about Graham at the Gaels too. Their depth is ridiculous. Not sure if he's U-21 but I was also surprised that your man from Kingscourt is that young.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up-again on September 14, 2010, 11:11:28 AM
Smith is definitely u21. Graham is not.

Bit early to be talking about it though in my opinion.

Is Hyland taking it wit the same management team?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Breffni_Yank on September 14, 2010, 11:18:27 AM
God I have too much time on my hands this morning...

Here is the minor team from 08  -http://www.hoganstand.com/Tyrone/ArticleForm.aspx?ID=97408

Even found a link to the game against Tyrone

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/northern_ireland/gaelic_games/7480919.stm
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on September 14, 2010, 11:35:27 AM
Quote from: put-it-up-again on September 14, 2010, 11:11:28 AM
Smith is definitely u21. Graham is not.

Bit early to be talking about it though in my opinion.

Is Hyland taking it wit the same management team?
Not a bit. Sure doesn't optimism keep the spirits up even if it's unfounded.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Terry Coyle on September 14, 2010, 12:15:12 PM
I have to agree with Dougal about McClarey! A brilliant footballer, is strong, very quick, can win his own ball and kick a score and more importantly is a team player. He always in front of his man as well. Would love to see him start the final.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Breffni_Yank on September 14, 2010, 12:17:25 PM
Quote from: Lawrence of Knockbride on September 14, 2010, 11:35:27 AM
Quote from: put-it-up-again on September 14, 2010, 11:11:28 AM
Smith is definitely u21. Graham is not.

Bit early to be talking about it though in my opinion.

Is Hyland taking it wit the same management team?
Not a bit. Sure doesn't optimism keep the spirits up even if it's unfounded.

Maybe the focus should be on the senior set-up at the minute considering our new management team.

But i think the u21's is our only real hope of success. There is a very strong spine there.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dougal on September 14, 2010, 01:29:38 PM
Quote from: Breffni_Yank on September 14, 2010, 12:17:25 PM
Quote from: Lawrence of Knockbride on September 14, 2010, 11:35:27 AM
Quote from: put-it-up-again on September 14, 2010, 11:11:28 AM
Smith is definitely u21. Graham is not.

Bit early to be talking about it though in my opinion.

Is Hyland taking it wit the same management team?
Not a bit. Sure doesn't optimism keep the spirits up even if it's unfounded.

Maybe the focus should be on the senior set-up at the minute considering our new management team.

But i think the u21's is our only real hope of success. There is a very strong spine there.

id disagree with that,who will replace dunne givney and mckiernan,and to a lesser extent mcenroe?mcdermot and mckiernan are all thats left from the spine of the u21 team last year.do we have any big FFs?dunne is one of the best full backs in the county and givney is the best midfielder.

i heard val andrews was at 8 matches at the weekend,was tommy at 8 matches in the two years he was manager?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Breffni_Yank on September 14, 2010, 01:50:07 PM
Quote from: Dougal on September 14, 2010, 01:29:38 PM
Quote from: Breffni_Yank on September 14, 2010, 12:17:25 PM
Quote from: Lawrence of Knockbride on September 14, 2010, 11:35:27 AM
Quote from: put-it-up-again on September 14, 2010, 11:11:28 AM
Smith is definitely u21. Graham is not.

Bit early to be talking about it though in my opinion.

Is Hyland taking it wit the same management team?
Not a bit. Sure doesn't optimism keep the spirits up even if it's unfounded.

Maybe the focus should be on the senior set-up at the minute considering our new management team.

But i think the u21's is our only real hope of success. There is a very strong spine there.

id disagree with that,who will replace dunne givney and mckiernan,and to a lesser extent mcenroe?mcdermot and mckiernan are all thats left from the spine of the u21 team last year.do we have any big FFs?dunne is one of the best full backs in the county and givney is the best midfielder.

i heard val andrews was at 8 matches at the weekend,was tommy at 8 matches in the two years he was manager?

Well I think O'Meara, Minnagh and Maloney all would have been starting if fit last year. So they slot in straight away.

Barry Reilly will play at CF of FF. McClarey will be in one corner and someone like Kevin Tierney could be in the other - I am sure Boojangles will vouch for him as I remember reading on here ages ago that he scored 5-something ;D McDermott will be floating around somewhere too.

I would be happy enough with them kind of lads playing and if that number 6 from Mullahoran at the weekend is underage he will be in the mix aswell..
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dougal on September 14, 2010, 01:55:24 PM
thats kinda my point,we have some serious players outside of the spine,but the spine isnt there just yet,but maybe it will be.ill have to take a look at the u21s this year and see what i can see.hopefully andrews will bring in a few from last year and give them a bit of game time and see how they cope.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on September 14, 2010, 03:03:17 PM
Quote from: Breffni_Yank on September 14, 2010, 09:39:46 AM
The Gaels bench would no doubt win the intermediate championship anyway and would beat a right few senior teams...

They couldn't win the Junior last year so.....
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dougal on September 14, 2010, 03:13:25 PM
Quote from: Celt_Man on September 14, 2010, 03:03:17 PM
Quote from: Breffni_Yank on September 14, 2010, 09:39:46 AM
The Gaels bench would no doubt win the intermediate championship anyway and would beat a right few senior teams...

They couldn't win the Junior last year so.....

how many of the gaels 1st 30 were elegible for junior by the time the swad game came around?probably only about 5.take the strongest 15,forget about them and take the next 15.id say they would beat the majority of intermediate sides.
the gaels probably use 25 different players in the senior champ,so that automatically means that 10 players out of thier 2nd 15 wouldnt be elegible.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on September 14, 2010, 03:18:15 PM
Quote from: Dougal on September 14, 2010, 03:13:25 PM
Quote from: Celt_Man on September 14, 2010, 03:03:17 PM
Quote from: Breffni_Yank on September 14, 2010, 09:39:46 AM
The Gaels bench would no doubt win the intermediate championship anyway and would beat a right few senior teams...

They couldn't win the Junior last year so.....

how many of the gaels 1st 30 were elegible for junior by the time the swad game came around?probably only about 5.take the strongest 15,forget about them and take the next 15.id say they would beat the majority of intermediate sides.
the gaels probably use 25 different players in the senior champ,so that automatically means that 10 players out of thier 2nd 15 wouldnt be elegible.

ok say all that is true and in fairness there are a fair few probablys in that... how come do don't do better in the Division 2 league then?

I'm not disputing that the fact that the Gaels have unbelievable talent and amount of players at their disposal but just to say that they would no doubt win the Intermediate as simply as that is a bit annoying
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dougal on September 14, 2010, 03:30:25 PM
"no doubt they'd win inter",is a massive exageration,in my opinion.i said they'd beat the majority of teams,and in div2,they've been in or around the top half,this year,and the two years before that?i think a decent inter team would be a more accurate description.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on September 14, 2010, 03:33:28 PM
Quote from: Dougal on September 14, 2010, 03:30:25 PM
"no doubt they'd win inter",is a massive exageration,in my opinion.i said they'd beat the majority of teams,and in div2,they've been in or around the top half,this year,and the two years before that?i think a decent inter team would be a more accurate description.

Aye I'd agree... They hold their own just about in the last couple of years
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Terry Coyle on September 14, 2010, 04:12:34 PM
Quote from: Celt_Man on September 14, 2010, 03:33:28 PM
Quote from: Dougal on September 14, 2010, 03:30:25 PM
"no doubt they'd win inter",is a massive exageration,in my opinion.i said they'd beat the majority of teams,and in div2,they've been in or around the top half,this year,and the two years before that?i think a decent inter team would be a more accurate description.

Aye I'd agree... They hold their own just about in the last couple of years

Dont really want to start a debate on this but our seconds have beaten two of the intermediate semi finalists this year and only for 2 goals in injury time would have beaten Knockbride as well so I think they more than hold their own at intermediate.

I presume Enda Reilly from Mullahoran will be in with the U21s as well. Saw Barry Reilly in the semi on Saturday evening and he is very good player - lovely dummy on him! I would expect him to make an impact with the senior set up next year.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dougal on September 14, 2010, 08:10:42 PM
Quote from: Terry Coyle on September 14, 2010, 04:12:34 PM
Quote from: Celt_Man on September 14, 2010, 03:33:28 PM
Quote from: Dougal on September 14, 2010, 03:30:25 PM
"no doubt they'd win inter",is a massive exageration,in my opinion.i said they'd beat the majority of teams,and in div2,they've been in or around the top half,this year,and the two years before that?i think a decent inter team would be a more accurate description.

Aye I'd agree... They hold their own just about in the last couple of years

Dont really want to start a debate on this but our seconds have beaten two of the intermediate semi finalists this year and only for 2 goals in injury time would have beaten Knockbride as well so I think they more than hold their own at intermediate.

I presume Enda Reilly from Mullahoran will be in with the U21s as well. Saw Barry Reilly in the semi on Saturday evening and he is very good player - lovely dummy on him! I would expect him to make an impact with the senior set up next year.

havent seen him have a good game other than with mullahoran seniors.seen him in club minors,where he did very well for 5-10 minutes and after that was absolutely roasted by a 16 year old.seen him for the county minors 4 or 5 times,and didnt deserve a starting place the next day based on his performances.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: CC1 on September 14, 2010, 10:04:51 PM
Quote from: Terry Coyle on September 14, 2010, 04:12:34 PM
Quote from: Celt_Man on September 14, 2010, 03:33:28 PM
Quote from: Dougal on September 14, 2010, 03:30:25 PM
"no doubt they'd win inter",is a massive exageration,in my opinion.i said they'd beat the majority of teams,and in div2,they've been in or around the top half,this year,and the two years before that?i think a decent inter team would be a more accurate description.

Aye I'd agree... They hold their own just about in the last couple of years

Dont really want to start a debate on this but our seconds have beaten two of the intermediate semi finalists this year and only for 2 goals in injury time would have beaten Knockbride as well so I think they more than hold their own at intermediate.
I'm sorry, I know you're not wanting to get into a debate about this but judging by your post. Shercock would have been well able to compete at intermediate and should have won the JFC this year... It doesn't always work out that way when it comes to championship football. Being a Shercock man, I should know all about it.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Terry Coyle on September 15, 2010, 12:04:10 PM
Quote from: CC1 on September 14, 2010, 10:04:51 PM
Quote from: Terry Coyle on September 14, 2010, 04:12:34 PM
Quote from: Celt_Man on September 14, 2010, 03:33:28 PM
Quote from: Dougal on September 14, 2010, 03:30:25 PM
"no doubt they'd win inter",is a massive exageration,in my opinion.i said they'd beat the majority of teams,and in div2,they've been in or around the top half,this year,and the two years before that?i think a decent inter team would be a more accurate description.

Aye I'd agree... They hold their own just about in the last couple of years

Dont really want to start a debate on this but our seconds have beaten two of the intermediate semi finalists this year and only for 2 goals in injury time would have beaten Knockbride as well so I think they more than hold their own at intermediate.
I'm sorry, I know you're not wanting to get into a debate about this but judging by your post. Shercock would have been well able to compete at intermediate and should have won the JFC this year... It doesn't always work out that way when it comes to championship football. Being a Shercock man, I should know all about it.

You're right - its well and good doing it in the league but championship is different. Sure Denn nearly got relegated from league but yet got to a champ final last year. Its irrelevant really because we didnt win the junior so I suppose the topic should have been, we could have won the junior or given it a good go!

As for Enda Reilly - yeh I had my doubts about him. On Sunday he was good from frees and that but from open play he didnt really offer a lot. Phillip Brady was the biggest threat in that regard.

Jimmy Galligan from Lacken referee for the senior final - well there wont be many soft frees anyway unlike whistle happy Raymond!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on September 15, 2010, 01:36:59 PM
Quote from: Terry Coyle on September 15, 2010, 12:04:10 PM
Quote from: CC1 on September 14, 2010, 10:04:51 PM
Quote from: Terry Coyle on September 14, 2010, 04:12:34 PM
Quote from: Celt_Man on September 14, 2010, 03:33:28 PM
Quote from: Dougal on September 14, 2010, 03:30:25 PM
"no doubt they'd win inter",is a massive exageration,in my opinion.i said they'd beat the majority of teams,and in div2,they've been in or around the top half,this year,and the two years before that?i think a decent inter team would be a more accurate description.

Aye I'd agree... They hold their own just about in the last couple of years

Dont really want to start a debate on this but our seconds have beaten two of the intermediate semi finalists this year and only for 2 goals in injury time would have beaten Knockbride as well so I think they more than hold their own at intermediate.
I'm sorry, I know you're not wanting to get into a debate about this but judging by your post. Shercock would have been well able to compete at intermediate and should have won the JFC this year... It doesn't always work out that way when it comes to championship football. Being a Shercock man, I should know all about it.

You're right - its well and good doing it in the league but championship is different. Sure Denn nearly got relegated from league but yet got to a champ final last year. Its irrelevant really because we didnt win the junior so I suppose the topic should have been, we could have won the junior or given it a good go!

As for Enda Reilly - yeh I had my doubts about him. On Sunday he was good from frees and that but from open play he didnt really offer a lot. Phillip Brady was the biggest threat in that regard.

Jimmy Galligan from Lacken referee for the senior final - well there wont be many soft frees anyway unlike whistle happy Raymond!

Is that decided?

Fair play to him,played the game and uses common sense when refereeing. Some Gaels supporters may not be happy but TBH I seen him referee Cavan Gaels in the Semi final last year and there couldn't have been many complaining that day.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Terry Coyle on September 15, 2010, 01:39:18 PM
Quote from: boojangles on September 15, 2010, 01:36:59 PM
Quote from: Terry Coyle on September 15, 2010, 12:04:10 PM
Quote from: CC1 on September 14, 2010, 10:04:51 PM
Quote from: Terry Coyle on September 14, 2010, 04:12:34 PM
Quote from: Celt_Man on September 14, 2010, 03:33:28 PM
Quote from: Dougal on September 14, 2010, 03:30:25 PM
"no doubt they'd win inter",is a massive exageration,in my opinion.i said they'd beat the majority of teams,and in div2,they've been in or around the top half,this year,and the two years before that?i think a decent inter team would be a more accurate description.

Aye I'd agree... They hold their own just about in the last couple of years

Dont really want to start a debate on this but our seconds have beaten two of the intermediate semi finalists this year and only for 2 goals in injury time would have beaten Knockbride as well so I think they more than hold their own at intermediate.
I'm sorry, I know you're not wanting to get into a debate about this but judging by your post. Shercock would have been well able to compete at intermediate and should have won the JFC this year... It doesn't always work out that way when it comes to championship football. Being a Shercock man, I should know all about it.

You're right - its well and good doing it in the league but championship is different. Sure Denn nearly got relegated from league but yet got to a champ final last year. Its irrelevant really because we didnt win the junior so I suppose the topic should have been, we could have won the junior or given it a good go!

As for Enda Reilly - yeh I had my doubts about him. On Sunday he was good from frees and that but from open play he didnt really offer a lot. Phillip Brady was the biggest threat in that regard.

Jimmy Galligan from Lacken referee for the senior final - well there wont be many soft frees anyway unlike whistle happy Raymond!

Is that decided?

Fair play to him,played the game and uses common sense when refereeing. Some Gaels supporters may not be happy but TBH I seen him referee Cavan Gaels in the Semi final last year and there couldn't have been many complaining that day.

I think it is - no problems with him from my side. At least he will let the game flow a bit.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: PhilsJemmysField on September 15, 2010, 06:02:31 PM
Normally Jimmy is good enough and refs a game well enough.

The only issue with Jimmy Galligan is how at the Killygarry semi final last year. Two well known experts on refereeing Mr Forde and Mr Reilly chatted Jimmy for at least 5 minutes on the field at Half Time. Then in the second half Killygarry could'nt buy a free. Seem a bit too much like a ladies who lunch in the meadow view thing. In fairness to Raymond even though I hate his picky style he did keep control on Mullahoran, Gaels game and took absolutely no shite from any player who questioned or tried to referee the game. Jimmy should be good enough for the Final and will let the game flow
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cogito on September 16, 2010, 09:40:11 AM
Is this Raymond Kelly - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3x4T4i--x70
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up-again on September 16, 2010, 11:51:04 AM
As funny as that is, take it down you eegit. Bit harsh on our Raymond!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: whats my name on September 16, 2010, 12:43:35 PM
yea take it down or boojangles will report you he is the gaa board police after all
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on September 16, 2010, 01:06:09 PM
Good to see the Hoganstand element creeping in over here.... ::)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on September 16, 2010, 03:26:49 PM
Quote from: whats my name on September 16, 2010, 12:43:35 PM
yea take it down or boojangles will report you he is the gaa board police after all

Damn right I am.

Good to see ya had to sense to do what I told ya to do though. Datta boy.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on September 16, 2010, 06:27:34 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on September 16, 2010, 05:20:52 PM
hey im new on here,change from the shite on hoganstand.. ::)
any thoughts for next years cavan panel?

Careful now or the Grammar Patrol or worse the Apostrophe Police will get you on your opening post....



Welcome anyway - what club are you from? So I will know to avoiding abusing them or abuse at will as the situation warants
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: twotwocharlie on September 16, 2010, 07:22:13 PM
if anyone has a spare ticket for sunday will you please contact me by pm
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up-again on September 17, 2010, 09:41:41 AM
Quote from: Celt_Man on September 16, 2010, 06:27:34 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on September 16, 2010, 05:20:52 PM
hey im new on here,change from the shite on hoganstand.. ::)
any thoughts for next years cavan panel?

Careful now or the Grammar Patrol or worse the Apostrophe Police will get you on your opening post....



Welcome anyway - what club are you from? So I will know to avoiding abusing them or abuse at will as the situation warants

You forgot capital letters also  ;D Although it would be considered part of the general Grammar Patrol, I think it is worth a mention by itself.

Cavan for Sam rodney trotter. Welcome aboard.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on September 17, 2010, 11:30:54 AM
Whats the protocol for the Senior Final?

Are the reigning champions the home team?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on September 17, 2010, 01:02:06 PM
im not from drung,drumgoon,kill, or any of your neighbour clubs celt man :-X
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Kingscourt Stars on September 17, 2010, 06:27:14 PM
Quote from: Denn Forever on September 17, 2010, 11:30:54 AM
Whats the protocol for the Senior Final?

Are the reigning champions the home team?

We won a coin toss earlier in the week and will line out in blue.  Gaels enter the field first, as that's done alphabetically apparently.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dougal on September 17, 2010, 11:24:13 PM
still dont see what the big deal with mcconnel is,didnt think he was that great in the last 3 matches.paddy byrd was very good tonight,wouldnt let him near a county team at the minute though,bit of a head the ball...kicking flags,arguing with team mates and just generally losing the head.get that sorted out and he has a good chance of making the county team.what age is he anyway?john o dowd has been playing well so far this year but was out of his depth on paddy this evening.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on September 17, 2010, 11:45:33 PM
Quote from: Dougal on September 17, 2010, 11:24:13 PM
still dont see what the big deal with mcconnel is,didnt think he was that great in the last 3 matches.paddy byrd was very good tonight,wouldnt let him near a county team at the minute though,bit of a head the ball...kicking flags,arguing with team mates and just generally losing the head.get that sorted out and he has a good chance of making the county team.what age is he anyway?john o dowd has been playing well so far this year but was out of his depth on paddy this evening.

Your as bad as Tynan on Northern Sound Dougal :D :D
Talking about a game and not even giving the result.
Wasnt at it but Drumlane and Bailieboro drew- 1-7 apiece for any of our exiles.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on September 17, 2010, 11:48:18 PM
Quote from: Dougal on September 17, 2010, 11:24:13 PM
still dont see what the big deal with mcconnel is,didnt think he was that great in the last 3 matches.paddy byrd was very good tonight,wouldnt let him near a county team at the minute though,bit of a head the ball...kicking flags,arguing with team mates and just generally losing the head.get that sorted out and he has a good chance of making the county team.what age is he anyway?john o dowd has been playing well so far this year but was out of his depth on paddy this evening.


and in other news rank outsiders Bailiebourough Shamrocks forced a draw against championship favourites Drumlane in Breffni tonight. gowan the east Cavan lads. Dougal, bit hard to work out exactly where you stand on young Byrd, is he the from the above.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on September 17, 2010, 11:50:04 PM
Quote from: boojangles on September 17, 2010, 11:45:33 PM
Quote from: Dougal on September 17, 2010, 11:24:13 PM
still dont see what the big deal with mcconnel is,didnt think he was that great in the last 3 matches.paddy byrd was very good tonight,wouldnt let him near a county team at the minute though,bit of a head the ball...kicking flags,arguing with team mates and just generally losing the head.get that sorted out and he has a good chance of making the county team.what age is he anyway?john o dowd has been playing well so far this year but was out of his depth on paddy this evening.

Your as bad as Tynan on Northern Sound Dougal :D :D
Talking about a game and not even giving the result.
Wasnt at it but Drumlane and Bailieboro drew- 1-7 apiece for any of our exiles.


cheers, from an exile
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dougal on September 18, 2010, 12:02:59 AM
sorry,never even thought of putting up the result.
where do i stand?very good footballer,but seems liable to lose the head.not far off county standard,if he stops the s**t...maybe hes not normally as bad,but i wouldnt risk putting a lad that loses the head easily,on a county team.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on September 18, 2010, 12:19:05 AM
Quote from: Dougal on September 18, 2010, 12:02:59 AM
sorry,never even thought of putting up the result.
where do i stand?very good footballer,but seems liable to lose the head.not far off county standard,if he stops the s**t...maybe hes not normally as bad,but i wouldnt risk putting a lad that loses the head easily,on a county team.


thanks dougal much appreciated update down here, god knows we have enough headbangers at county level over the past several years. mind you, one of my very few inter county experiences of late was in Cork early this summer and we'd have killed for a few lads that would have lost the heads for the blue jersey that day
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on September 18, 2010, 12:26:35 AM
Quote from: Dougal on September 18, 2010, 12:02:59 AM
sorry,never even thought of putting up the result.
where do i stand?very good footballer,but seems liable to lose the head.not far off county standard,if he stops the s**t...maybe hes not normally as bad,but i wouldnt risk putting a lad that loses the head easily,on a county team.

He has been a nutcase every time I've played against him and watched him this year...

He is a good player though but a time bomb - liable to explode at any moment
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dougal on September 18, 2010, 12:31:40 AM
Quote from: anglocelt39 on September 18, 2010, 12:19:05 AM
Quote from: Dougal on September 18, 2010, 12:02:59 AM
sorry,never even thought of putting up the result.
where do i stand?very good footballer,but seems liable to lose the head.not far off county standard,if he stops the s**t...maybe hes not normally as bad,but i wouldnt risk putting a lad that loses the head easily,on a county team.


thanks dougal much appreciated update down here, god knows we have enough headbangers at county level over the past several years. mind you, one of my very few inter county experiences of late was in Cork early this summer and we'd have killed for a few lads that would have lost the heads for the blue jersey that day

ye,at the start i just thought he was full of passion,and thought it was great,but as it got closer to the end he started to lose the head more and more.he could really get lads going if he kept it at the right level.i was beside him for the wicklow game and he really got people going,but kicking flags is too far.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: beer baron on September 18, 2010, 09:41:46 AM
Quote from: Dougal on September 18, 2010, 12:31:40 AM
Quote from: anglocelt39 on September 18, 2010, 12:19:05 AM
Quote from: Dougal on September 18, 2010, 12:02:59 AM
sorry,never even thought of putting up the result.
where do i stand?very good footballer,but seems liable to lose the head.not far off county standard,if he stops the s**t...maybe hes not normally as bad,but i wouldnt risk putting a lad that loses the head easily,on a county team.


thanks dougal much appreciated update down here, god knows we have enough headbangers at county level over the past several years. mind you, one of my very few inter county experiences of late was in Cork early this summer and we'd have killed for a few lads that would have lost the heads for the blue jersey that day

ye,at the start i just thought he was full of passion,and thought it was great,but as it got closer to the end he started to lose the head more and more.he could really get lads going if he kept it at the right level.i was beside him for the wicklow game and he really got people going,but kicking flags is too far.

Ask anyone from bailieboro or Knockbride clubs and tthe majority will inform you he is a loonatic!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: whats my name on September 18, 2010, 02:24:45 PM
yea he's just not the full deck of cards imo we played them before and the carry on he went on with wasnt right roaring screeming etc wouldnt have him near a county team untill is attitude improves
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on September 18, 2010, 04:54:35 PM
Cavan Gaels walked the Junior final against Mullahoran today. 2-9 to 0-3 or sometin like that. Cavan Gaels had a ridiculously strong team out with at least 6 lads who would make any Senior team in the county.
Daniel Graham, Robert Maloney Derham and Kevin Meehan being the pick of them.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on September 20, 2010, 12:56:38 PM
How is ferncombe playing for drumalee this year,very good footballer..brillant half back.his only problem is can lose the head at times
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on September 20, 2010, 04:03:32 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on September 20, 2010, 12:56:38 PM
How is ferncombe playing for drumalee this year,very good footballer..brillant half back.his only problem is can lose the head at times

He's living in Birmingham since last year so he's only played the last 2 games for us but he is playing excellent. He can lose the head at times alright but overall he is one of the best half backs in the county IMO.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Swadman on September 20, 2010, 07:11:10 PM
http://www.gaainfo.com/rankings/index.php ranks us  21st  ....Cork only beat the 18th ranked county after extra time and Down struggled against the 25th ranked one this year.   

   
Rank      County   Points
1       Cork   1822.45
2       Kerry   1768.88
3       Dublin   1733.71
4       Tyrone   1665.81
5       Down   1632.26
6       Mayo   1611.08
7       Meath   1585.08
8       Armagh   1564.94
9       Kildare   1546.13
10       Monaghan   1531.33
11       Galway   1517.11
12       Derry   1511.39
13       Donegal   1478.22
14       Wexford   1380.53
15       Louth   1374.62
16       Sligo   1367.57
17       Laois   1339.96
18       Limerick   1317.00
19       Antrim   1301.58
20       Tipperary   1266.01
21       Cavan   1259.42
22       Roscommon   1245.09
23       Westmeath   1234.28
24       Fermanagh   1227.81
25       Offaly   1220.40
26       Wicklow   1151.50
27       Longford   1128.21
28       Waterford   1052.46
29       Leitrim   1035.73
30       Clare   996.53
31       Carlow   929.46
32       London   644.23
33       New York   611.87
34       Kilkenny   409.35


Lifted this from another thread and it lifted my spirits.
1. We are not on the bottom.
2. We are 3 positions above Fermanagh
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on September 21, 2010, 11:36:42 AM
The stats do lie. 

Cavan above Roscommon?  I assume championship wasn't taken into account.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on September 22, 2010, 03:59:18 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on September 22, 2010, 01:17:53 PM
Any hope of a kingscourt win sunday :o,new champions would be good see although i cant see it happeneing. The gaels looked a lot better against mullahoran compared to the other matches they played in the championship. Looked like a team who were saving there best until championship final and a possible ulster run. If they do win sunday i hope they go on a decent run in ulster club,county team needs them to make an impact in ulster. it might also give the likes of duffy eamon reilly micheal lyng a boost and play county football. :-\

Just can't see it happening TBH. Cavan Gaels have reached a County Final by playing well for 10 or 15 minutes V Cuchulainns and maybe 20 minutes V Mullahoran. They definitely look like a team that has been playing well within themselves although I'd be suprised if the intensity hasn't doubled at their trainings since the shock they got in the Q-Final, coupled with the fact that Damien Cassidy is now involved. They have played 2 very tough challenge matches in the last few weeks V Oliver Plunketts and Ballyboden in Dublin so they could be coming to the boil just in time for another proper stab at Ulster.
They also avoid the big guns of Antrim/ Derry/ Armagh until the final as far as I know.
Cassidy could make a huge difference to them in Ulster if they win on Sunday.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up-again on September 22, 2010, 04:26:15 PM
I know a few of the Kingscourt lads and it is refreshing to see how serious they are taking all this. They are determined to give it a right good rattle and I think if a few other club's in Cavan maximised resources like they have then we could start making progress.

Fully agreed though that the Gaels will be seriously hard bet. But i think Kingscourt will go toe to with them for 45 mins or so before the likes of McClarey, Maloney, Graham and Co. come on to  take advantage of tired legs. I'd expect to see one or two changes to the Gaels team from the last day out.

On a side note, the Intermediate semi between Drumlane and Bailieborough is now in Mullahoran on Friday. I'll also avoid getting into a conversion about Bird from us. He is some footballer, I will leave it at that.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on September 22, 2010, 04:57:19 PM
Quote from: put-it-up-again on September 22, 2010, 04:26:15 PM
I know a few of the Kingscourt lads and it is refreshing to see how serious they are taking all this. They are determined to give it a right good rattle and I think if a few other club's in Cavan maximised resources like they have then we could start making progress.

Fully agreed though that the Gaels will be seriously hard bet. But i think Kingscourt will go toe to with them for 45 mins or so before the likes of McClarey, Maloney, Graham and Co. come on to  take advantage of tired legs. I'd expect to see one or two changes to the Gaels team from the last day out.

On a side note, the Intermediate semi between Drumlane and Bailieborough is now in Mullahoran on Friday. I'll also avoid getting into a conversion about Bird from us. He is some footballer, I will leave it at that.

They are in a Senior Championship final for the first time in 11 years, there would be something seriously wrong if they weren't taking it serious.

I know its probably disappointing for Bailieboro and Drumlane to be moved from Breifni Park but I think they have made the right move there. Could not get over how soft the field was on Saturday night. Its also after taking another few bad soakings since then.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up-again on September 22, 2010, 05:16:33 PM
Ah no but there approach all year has been very professional. Their manager has them very organised and I would say they are one of the best run clubs in Cavan at the minute in my opinion.

Yeah but I can understand why its been moved with the final on Sunday. Just don't understand why they didnt go for it Saturday during the day somewhere. Not the biggest fan of the lights in Mullahoran.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Terry Coyle on September 22, 2010, 05:35:36 PM
Nothing gets by you Bojangles.. Hopefully both towny teams do the business this year! Who is manager of Kingscourt by the way?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on September 22, 2010, 06:24:36 PM
Quote from: Terry Coyle on September 22, 2010, 05:35:36 PM
Nothing gets by you Bojangles.. Hopefully both towny teams do the business this year! Who is manager of Kingscourt by the way?

Dudley Farrell.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on September 22, 2010, 06:42:56 PM
Fair play to the Stars,
Remember playing them up in Kingscourt 3 years ago in the league,and they looked like a team destined for the intermediate championship,they were that bad.
Some turn-around,but unfortunately i cant see them beating the Gaels this year.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on September 24, 2010, 12:54:59 PM
Any life out there, it is County final weekend after all, you'd be hard pressed to guess it from how quiet the board has gone, and as for the online version of the Celt..........
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on September 24, 2010, 05:43:37 PM
The online version of the Celt is very bad, can ya not get the whole version online or whats the story? In fairness though, Paul Fitzpatricks summary of the big game is spot on, its a pity he didn't write more reports instead of leaving them to the ex-sports editor.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on September 24, 2010, 06:13:40 PM
Just seen the thread with Fitzpatricks preview, hopefully the Stars will view this as Tipp viewed the hurling final last year. they will need to. Depending on how the Shamrocks go tonight sure we might make the trip next weekend to offer Booj some encouragement.

Thought of posting to that Cavan GAA for the Gramatically Gifted but didn't want to tempt fate..........
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on September 24, 2010, 07:23:13 PM
Is the intermediate final definitely on next weekend? If Drumlane get through I reckon they'll have played championship 5 weeks on the trot.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on September 25, 2010, 10:30:55 AM
Quote from: Lawrence of Knockbride on September 24, 2010, 07:23:13 PM
Is the intermediate final definitely on next weekend? If Drumlane get through I reckon they'll have played championship 5 weeks on the trot.

Intermediate final is on Sunday the 10th of October. Drumalee V Drumlane.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up-again on September 25, 2010, 12:41:37 PM
Drumalee bet us by 9 to 5. Brutal game to be honest. Sexton was fairly generous with a few free to Drumlane while I think he gave us one free inside 50m in the whole game. It took the piss when he booked one of our lads for telling him what to do  ;D

We were too one dimensional and relied on Bird for scores. There was no Plan B what so ever. Drumlane obviously learned from us more than we learned from them after the first game as they sat a man in front of Bird, sometimes two.

Turning to Sunday I hope Kingscourt give a good account of themselves. I have yet to see a good game in Cavan this year to be honest so I hope that changes this weekend.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on September 25, 2010, 04:04:19 PM
Anybody any idea about the two minor teams for Sunday? I'm looking at Myles, Dougal and Terry here for some hope for the future.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dougal on September 25, 2010, 05:35:42 PM
im expecting a big match from kevin bouchier,dont think hes one for the future though.hasnt improved much in the last 2 years and is more dedicated to soccer,but is a great footballer.
cian sweeneys a big man and very good at minor level,but doesnt have a footballing brain on him.should win lots of ball in midfield.
finbar rudden has been playing well for the seniors apart from one poor game,and should have been on the county minor panel this year.im expecting him to start full back,but if we need some help at midfield he'll be brought out.he never stops working,and will cover every inch of the pitch if brought out to midfield.
gary tubman is a great player at this level and if he gets the right ball into him will turn his man inside-out.
theres a good few U16s on this team,all of them very good players.conor smith has been solid all year,marked some of the best forwards in the county at this age group and done quite well,(this is the lad i was on about roasting enda reilly)ciaran brady and johnny mccabe from arva are playing very well at the minute,and conor higgins has been putting up massive scores in U16s and scoring a good bit in minors aswell.

im probably missing another one or two decent footballers,but thats most of the main ones.hopefully we can win tomorrow,we've been close for the last 3 years but still havent won anything at this level.

best of luck tomorrow TC hopefully it'll be a good game.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Terry Coyle on September 25, 2010, 07:26:41 PM
I'm not 100% on a lot of our lads names but will give it a go. Darragh Sexton has been playing well at centre half all year. Our main strength is in attack, with Paul O'Connor and Cian Byrne in particular the stand outs. O'Connor in particular has a great attitude towards the game which is great to see. Young Andrew Graham is handful as well in the corner (brother of Mickey), also has another brother Paul playing midfield Great engine on him. I reckon midfield will be crucial battle tomorrow - our lads probably more footballers, rather than pure ball winners. Not great with all the other names but a few other lads in defence who caught my eye as well.

Anyway best of luck to the Joes lads here - lets hope its a great game!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up-again on September 25, 2010, 08:41:04 PM
Minor Final is at 1.45. Senior is at 4pm according to the fixtures.

Is that a mistake or what? Some people just won't bother going to the minor game now because the gap is too long. Can anyone shed any light?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on September 25, 2010, 09:23:17 PM
Quote from: Lawrence of Knockbride on September 25, 2010, 04:04:19 PM
Anybody any idea about the two minor teams for Sunday? I'm looking at Myles, Dougal and Terry here for some hope for the future.

Have to hold my hand up and say I know nothing about them, being in exile I've not even seen them play before. I believe it is the 1st time Killeshandra have been involved in a Roinn I final in 30 odd years and gaels are there every 2nd year so maybe they might give us this one. ;)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on September 26, 2010, 01:16:27 PM
Any updates on either game would be apprecriated.... Can't make it due to a combination of not being able to go and not sure if I'm ready to look at football just yet
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up-again on September 26, 2010, 02:09:06 PM
I just flicked through the old Keoghan threads..Who could have though that Tommy Truck would actually have made us worse  ???
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on September 26, 2010, 05:26:44 PM
Minor a draw, kingscourt win senior by 4pts :o
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on September 26, 2010, 05:27:28 PM
Kingscourt won by 4 points....  Great for Cavan football - but hard luck to Gaels who have led the line in Senior football for the past number of years causing a few other clubs to get moving...

Northern Sound are impossible to listen to...
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on September 26, 2010, 06:32:54 PM
We may not see any Cavan Gaels men donning the county jersey next year. I hear they are not happy.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on September 26, 2010, 06:35:28 PM
Quote from: boojangles on September 26, 2010, 06:32:54 PM
We may not see any Cavan Gaels men donning the county jersey next year. I hear they are not happy.

Jaysus the soapopera continues... Why? Whats wrong now?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on September 26, 2010, 06:44:16 PM
Spit it out Boojangles. Not like you to be putting controversial statements up ;)
Unbelievable result today. Kingscourt definitely deserved it though. 4 down at half time and to come back and beat the Gaels by 4 is serious stuff. Wakely had a savage game first on Murray and then on Johnston, apart from the goal when I don't know what he was at. He's 29 and we're struggling in the county at FB. Was this  one off performance. Clarke was very good in front of him and got MOTM. I liked his speech too, not just the usual crap. I've always thought Ryan McCormack was overrated but his free-taking today was excellent and he calmly put the penalty away too. Barry Reilly caused lots of problems for the Gaels and was dealing with a lot of abuse from Chesty and Crotty too. I was surprised to see McKeown on the bench and what an impact he made when introduced.
For the Gaels I thought King fielded some very good ball and Lyng and Johnston were prominent in the first half. There must have been an element of complacency though and it'd be hard not to be in fairness to them.
Good minor game although the Gaels keeper will be disappointed. Made some good saves during the game but then let St. Joseph's back in it for the first goal and punched when he should have caught for the second.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on September 26, 2010, 07:04:31 PM
What was the craic at full time?  Did the Gaels kick up a fuss?  Not like them to give bad manners.

McCormack is a funny one, he was a McKenna Cup panel a couple of years ago and maybe a bit of the league too but whether he was dropped or left - he wasn't there by championship anyway... But to my mind he was doing rightly, was decent enough from open play and very accurate from frees thought it would have been worth keeping around

Often thought that it was strange that if a newcomer nearly set the whole county scene alight, he would get gate... rather than allowing time to settle in and find their feet inside a 30 man set up or whatever...
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dougal on September 26, 2010, 07:21:15 PM
anyone know what the penalty was for?i didnt see what it was for,and either did anyone else beside me.well done to kingscourt though,they were the better team and never gave up.why wasnt mckeown starting,anytime ive seen him this year he was quite good.im actually a bit of a gaels fan,but i cant stand some of their attitudes,dont want to name names,but one lad on the bench was a disgrace,giving abuse to tom reilly, the crowd, some of the minor match officials and went straight over to jimmy once the game finished.

didnt think we had a hope in hell of coming back in the minors,but a few bad mistakes from the gaels kept us in it.looks like graham and sexton will be out for the replay so it'll be a tight game again.gaels have won either the minor or senior every year from 98 onwards,can us and kingscourt put a stop to a very impressive record?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on September 26, 2010, 07:57:53 PM
I don't think McCormack is that good generally but he used it well today. The penalty was a tug on a jersey. Definite penalty and none of the Gaels complained. The state of Elliott coming out to McCormack and then throwing the hat in the net in a rage. Agree with everything Rodney says. When was this abuse being thrown at Tom Reilly Dougal?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dougal on September 26, 2010, 08:05:13 PM
i think it was early enough in the second half,the lad on the bench wasnt too happy about a decision the ref made,Tom was coming from the pitch into the stand,and yer man starts shouting at him giving out about the ref and how its his fault because he should have it sorted out.dont think tom took much notice of it though.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on September 26, 2010, 08:18:49 PM
I wonder will Kingscourt be bothered to make a decent attempt in Ulster? Their sights would have been fixed on the County Title I wonder if they'll just think "Job done" now. The Gaels would have higher expectations and probably had one eye on Ulster already.

Are the Gaels really that petulant that they would refuse as a team to play for the County because of what they perceive to be a poor refereeing display!? And if they are you'd have to wonder, do we really want want people with that attitude representing us? Perhaps that's being unfair as we don't know if that is true yet..
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on September 26, 2010, 08:31:52 PM
Well done Kingscourt.  Though wouldn't want to get CG next year.

When/Where is the first round of Ulster and against who?

Any new potential talent for the County scene?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on September 26, 2010, 08:36:09 PM
Quote from: Denn Forever on September 26, 2010, 08:31:52 PM
Well done Kingscourt.  Though wouldn't want to get CG next year.

When/Where is the first round of Ulster and against who?

Any new potential talent for the County scene?

Think it's the Donegal Champs in Breffni...

Why won't they want to get CG next year?  Sure they could end up meeting again this year - Kingscourt are top in Div 1 and Gaels are second behind them so they could meet in another final!

Was there much of a crowd at the game today?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dougal on September 26, 2010, 08:57:09 PM
sun 17th in breffni against naomh connaill or or killybegs
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Blue06 on September 26, 2010, 09:09:52 PM
Quote from: Dougal on September 26, 2010, 08:57:09 PM
sun 17th in breffni against naomh connaill or or killybegs

Doesn't have to be Breffni.  As Kingscourts ground is a designated 'county ground' they will be entitled to play it on their home patch.


Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on September 26, 2010, 09:18:48 PM
Delighted for the Stars, commiserations to Terry Coyle mind. If there are Gaels lads whining about not turning out for the county next year on account of a few decisions going against them today its going beyond pathetic. Not the ideal time to be threathening to withdraw your services having just lost your crown after a prolonged period of dominance.

Looking forward to an update from our other sometimes Gaels poster when he gets in from the boozer, Thatstheball aka Iwasinvolvedinthecountypanel. Wonder if he was one of the lads unsuccessfully tasked with putting some manners on Barry Reilly today, you'd need your full wits abnout you for that task, Pipe and slipppers time for a few Gaels defenders perhaps.

On a bright note, the likes of Cuchulains, Castlerahan, Mullahoran, Belturbet etc, have to look at a result like this and have hope for next year.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up-again on September 27, 2010, 12:29:11 AM
Quote from: boojangles on September 26, 2010, 06:32:54 PM
We may not see any Cavan Gaels men donning the county jersey next year. I hear they are not happy.

If that is true then it is just pathetic. Yeah one or two rough decisions went against time and i did think Jimmy Galligan was completely out of his depth but that's football. They got beaten by a hungier team on the day and they should learn from it and come back a better outfit next year. CG were definitely playing withing themselves this year and I would say that defeat is the perfect reminder for them that they don't have the natural right to beat other teams in Cavan.

Wakely was immense today and should be tried with the county if he is interested despite his age. Toasty was brilliant as well and just everywhere on the park Kingscourt worked their arses off and it just shows you if you, commit to something, row in behind each other and just work that things can be achieved. County team please take note.

Work work work should be the new Cavan mantra going forward. We all know we have decent footballers. But when was the last time we saw a Cavan player go down with cramp during a game from sheer hard work? Work work work.

If Andrews and Hyland get that going for a start, I'll be a happy man.

Well done Kingscourt.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: CC1 on September 27, 2010, 11:19:20 AM
Quote from: put-it-up-again on September 27, 2010, 12:29:11 AM
Quote from: boojangles on September 26, 2010, 06:32:54 PM
We may not see any Cavan Gaels men donning the county jersey next year. I hear they are not happy.

If that is true then it is just pathetic. Yeah one or two rough decisions went against time and i did think Jimmy Galligan was completely out of his depth but that's football. They got beaten by a hungier team on the day and they should learn from it and come back a better outfit next year. CG were definitely playing withing themselves this year and I would say that defeat is the perfect reminder for them that they don't have the natural right to beat other teams in Cavan.

Wakely was immense today and should be tried with the county if he is interested despite his age. Toasty was brilliant as well and just everywhere on the park Kingscourt worked their arses off and it just shows you if you, commit to something, row in behind each other and just work that things can be achieved. County team please take note.

Work work work should be the new Cavan mantra going forward. We all know we have decent footballers. But when was the last time we saw a Cavan player go down with cramp during a game from sheer hard work? Work work work.

If Andrews and Hyland get that going for a start, I'll be a happy man.

Well done Kingscourt.
Great post PIU. Congratulations to Kingscourt is right. Great to see the Senior Championship back down this neck of the woods 15 years after your own club won it. Hopefully it will spark some competition between clubs after the Gaels dominating for so long. To think that Kingscourt were in Division 2 and nearly getting relegated to intermediate not so long ago, it goes to show what alot of teams and players can do once they are hungry for it. This county needs that example to be set and I think that Kingscourt have done that.

Congratulations to Kingscourt again, and commiserations to Cavan Gaels. Hopefully they'll respond in the right way and let their football do the talking for both club and then county. Its important to have good competition in this county.

Also congratulations to Ballyhaise and BallyhaiseMan on their victory over us in the Junior C championship the other night, best team won on the day regardless of all of the craic with the referee.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: PhilsJemmysField on September 27, 2010, 02:11:35 PM
On the far side of pitch to the stand and penalty was a clear pull on the jersey but very stupidly given away. Not sure if he would have gave it the other end. Kingscourt deserve a lot of credit for how they approached the game. A good lively team who worked hard and wanted it more. 
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on September 27, 2010, 03:41:06 PM
Apparentley a few senior Cavan Gaels players collectively decided in the dressing room after the game yesterday that they should not wear the blue of Cavan again until the refereeing in the county is sorted out. Tensions were obviously still high and I think decisions like that should not be made in the heat of the moment.
There would be no Cavan team if all clubs took that attitude. No more than my own club I'm sure there are plenty of clubs who have serious grievances with referees.

Cavan Gaels had their chances to win the game and should have went in winning by more at HT.
Kingscourt came out in the 2nd half and really started to believe in themselves, working like dogs all around the field.
It has to be said that Cathal Collins coming off for the Gaels was a big turning point IMO. He was winning alot of breaks around the middle with his pure power.When he went off, the game really started to turn in the Stars favour despite the best efforts of Enda King who had an outstanding game.
The penalty looked dubious from the stand but if ya pull a mans jersey your taking a risk. Whether it was inside or outside the box, I don't know, but it was a foul.

Congrats to Kingscourt who were the hungrier team. To come back from 4 points down took some effort. Thomas Wakely was my MOTM. No question. Toasty will have better days IMO and gave Lyng a world of room but he was still driving on at the end when it mattered.
People say this result is good for Cavan football. I'd agree on one hand that it will give belief to so many more clubs who feel they are now in with a shout.
I also feel that on the other hand had Cavan Gaels got over that hurdle they may have given Ulster one last shot. An Ulster club win would also be a massive boost to Cavan football. But then again who's to say Kingscourt can't go all the way. They have my support.

The Minor game was a very exciting contest with some brilliant scores from both teams. I think Cavan Gaels have the better forward line and that may be the difference in the replay, if they are at full strength.
My heart bleeds for the poor Drumalee man who probably would have got the Man of the Match award in the Minor final but for the Goalkeepers lapses in concentration.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on September 27, 2010, 05:59:13 PM
Quote from: boojangles on September 27, 2010, 03:41:06 PM
Apparentley a few senior Cavan Gaels players collectively decided in the dressing room after the game yesterday that they should not wear the blue of Cavan again until the refereeing in the county is sorted out.

My heart bleeds for the poor Drumalee man who probably would have got the Man of the Match award in the Minor final but for the Goalkeepers lapses in concentration.

Oh jaysus if that first bit is true.... ::) ::) ::)  Really hope it isn't

I'm not following your last sentence there Boojangles - care to elaborate?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on September 27, 2010, 06:39:34 PM
Quote from: Celt_Man on September 27, 2010, 05:59:13 PM
Quote from: boojangles on September 27, 2010, 03:41:06 PM
Apparentley a few senior Cavan Gaels players collectively decided in the dressing room after the game yesterday that they should not wear the blue of Cavan again until the refereeing in the county is sorted out.

My heart bleeds for the poor Drumalee man who probably would have got the Man of the Match award in the Minor final but for the Goalkeepers lapses in concentration.

Oh jaysus if that first bit is true.... ::) ::) ::)  Really hope it isn't

I'm not following your last sentence there Boojangles - care to elaborate?

Arguably Cavan Gaels best player yesterday in the Minor game transferred from Drumalee at the start of the year- lets say in 'controversial' circumstances.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dougal on September 27, 2010, 07:00:55 PM
bomber was brilliant yesterday,thought he was decent all year,but just not as good at county level as he was for club.he was man of the match imo too.the story i heard,as to why he moved to the gaels is a disgrace.im also hearing that the minors had a meeting last night and are trying to put off the replay for a couple of weeks,because of a wedding next weekend and something else the weekend after.

pathetic stuff from the gaels,if true,and they stick to their word.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on September 27, 2010, 07:03:08 PM
Quote from: Dougal on September 27, 2010, 07:00:55 PM
bomber was brilliant yesterday,thought he was decent all year,but just not as good at county level as he was for club.he was man of the match imo too.the story i heard,as to why he moved to the gaels is a disgrace.im also hearing that the minors had a meeting last night and are trying to put off the replay for a couple of weeks,because of a wedding next weekend and something else the weekend after.

pathetic stuff from the gaels,if true,and they stick to their word.

It would be the first time I've ever heard of a Minor match being called off due to a wedding!!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on September 27, 2010, 07:31:13 PM
Quote from: Celt_Man on September 27, 2010, 05:59:13 PM
Quote from: boojangles on September 27, 2010, 03:41:06 PM
Apparentley a few senior Cavan Gaels players collectively decided in the dressing room after the game yesterday that they should not wear the blue of Cavan again until the refereeing in the county is sorted out.

My heart bleeds for the poor Drumalee man who probably would have got the Man of the Match award in the Minor final but for the Goalkeepers lapses in concentration.

Oh jaysus if that first bit is true.... ::) ::) ::)  Really hope it isn't

I'm not following your last sentence there Boojangles - care to elaborate?

If that meeting was held and this story is true then those players should be told to f**k off as a matter of the highest priority by the new management as set a standard nice and early of the type of player we need.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on September 27, 2010, 08:28:30 PM
Apparentley a few senior Cavan Gaels players collectively decided in the dressing room after the game yesterday that they should not wear the blue of Cavan again until the refereeing in the county is sorted out.


Ah jesus h christ I have no reason to doubt you Booj but what a load of feckin cobblers. Apparently the Gaels weren't too happy with the reffing against Galls in Breffni last year so can someobody check out if they were willing to play in this years Ulster Club had they won yesterday?

I probably wouldn't agree with Boojangles' wish that the Gaels had a chance to give Ulster a rattle this year. The unfortunate fact is that they have had the guts of 7 (?) goes at Ulster in the last 10 years and it gives me no pleasure to say they have not come near to making the breakthrough. High time somebody else got a cut at it, we will know an awful lot more about some of the Kingscourt lads if they were to get two days out in Ulster. The last time we were any way competitive in Ulster was in the mid 90's when the County senior titlle had been shared around about 4 clubs in a 5 year spell. Perhaps yesterdays result might give the gee up to Cuchulains, Belturbet, Rahan and, importantly, the Gaels.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on September 27, 2010, 11:47:42 PM
Quote from: CC1 on September 27, 2010, 11:19:20 AM
Quote from: put-it-up-again on September 27, 2010, 12:29:11 AM
Quote from: boojangles on September 26, 2010, 06:32:54 PM
We may not see any Cavan Gaels men donning the county jersey next year. I hear they are not happy.

If that is true then it is just pathetic. Yeah one or two rough decisions went against time and i did think Jimmy Galligan was completely out of his depth but that's football. They got beaten by a hungier team on the day and they should learn from it and come back a better outfit next year. CG were definitely playing withing themselves this year and I would say that defeat is the perfect reminder for them that they don't have the natural right to beat other teams in Cavan.

Wakely was immense today and should be tried with the county if he is interested despite his age. Toasty was brilliant as well and just everywhere on the park Kingscourt worked their arses off and it just shows you if you, commit to something, row in behind each other and just work that things can be achieved. County team please take note.

Work work work should be the new Cavan mantra going forward. We all know we have decent footballers. But when was the last time we saw a Cavan player go down with cramp during a game from sheer hard work? Work work work.

If Andrews and Hyland get that going for a start, I'll be a happy man.

Well done Kingscourt.
Great post PIU. Congratulations to Kingscourt is right. Great to see the Senior Championship back down this neck of the woods 15 years after your own club won it. Hopefully it will spark some competition between clubs after the Gaels dominating for so long. To think that Kingscourt were in Division 2 and nearly getting relegated to intermediate not so long ago, it goes to show what alot of teams and players can do once they are hungry for it. This county needs that example to be set and I think that Kingscourt have done that.

Congratulations to Kingscourt again, and commiserations to Cavan Gaels. Hopefully they'll respond in the right way and let their football do the talking for both club and then county. Its important to have good competition in this county.

Also congratulations to Ballyhaise and BallyhaiseMan on their victory over us in the Junior C championship the other night, best team won on the day regardless of all of the craic with the referee.

Cheers for that CC1,You lads put up a better showing against our junior team this year in league and championship than everyone else bar Baileborough.
Our 2nds done the double,without losing a game in league or championship and just drawing two,Great record.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: whats my name on September 28, 2010, 01:55:41 AM
its the same old story anytime something doesn't go a teams way the first man to blame is the ref and then the manager wish the Gaels would get down of their high horses and play abit of ball for the county and quit blaming everyone else as the reason for not playing for the county. and well done kingscourt great to see a team break the Gaels stranglehold on cavan football hopefully they will give ulster a good rattle
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on September 28, 2010, 11:47:08 AM
Well if I may give my two cents to a couple of your questions:
If your keeper/backs stopped chances then Kingscourt could have executed them better so they were missed chances but we'll not get bogged down in that.
Stats aside, were there particular fouls given to Kingscourt that you can remember that weren't genuine fouls? And if they were, were they any more blatant than in your average game where we all question refereeing decisions?
I know what Johnston got booked for. I think he had missed a free (can't be certain of that) and as he walked back out one of the Kingscourt boys gave him a bit of lip and Johnston stuck out his leg and tripped him up. It was hamless enough alright but there you go-he shouldn't have tripped him up. And I reckon Seanie definitely knows. I can't believe Clarke didn't get booked, I assumed he did, very poor decision. The penalty was a definite penalty but one you often see not given. A clear pull on the jersey followed by a quick release to try to get away with it. Soft but clear. The one you didn't mention was Jimmy pointing for a free to the Gaels and then taking his hand down before he blew the whistle.
The point is that many a team has fallen foul of bad refs. One suggestion would be to bring in refs from other counties and obviously to train refs better. The gaels weren't any worse done than other matches I've seen. I've always thought Jimmy was poor. But if any of what Boojangles has suggested is happening is true then I think a few boys would need to look in the mirror and not at Jimmy Gallingan
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on September 28, 2010, 11:53:00 AM
Quote from: Thastheball on September 28, 2010, 10:33:06 AM
Congratulations to Kingscourt Stars on Sunday, when the game was up for grabs with about 5 mins to go they took their chances whilst we missed ours. After the 'was it a penalty or wasn't it' we hit the next two points very quickly to bring it back to one, and then we had two really easy chances missed by young inexperienced players followed by an easy free put into the keepers hands by a very experienced player, and that is where we lost it. Never mind the chances we missed in the first half to put serious day light between ourselves and Kingscourt. So overall, Kingscourt were full value for winning. No doubt they had a few goal chances in the first halve, but our defenders and keeper deserve full credit for blocking those chances, they could not be marked as missed opportunities for the opposition, they took them , it just our defenders had the skill to block them. I wish them well in the Ulster championship. we had a good evening with them back at the Kilmore.
And they very graciously acknowledged that they felt they got what was going. I wish them well.
On the ref, Kingscourt scored 1 gl and 10 pts from their total of 1gl and 13pts from placed balls. No doubt there certainly were some genuine fouls, but for anyone to tell us that we conceded 11 genuine fouls in scorable positions, well lets say we find it highly unusual at the very least and highly disingenuous at best.  Does anyone know why Johnston got booked in the 1st 5 minutes, none of us nor Johnston do, why the player who emptied Cathal Collins with a shoulder tackle right down his centre (his arm is broken in two places) didn't get at least a tick never mind a yellow card at the least. A critical hit that it was, as collins was being very dominant on break ball, and the game definitely turned against us when he went off. How did the player playing on Johnson not get fouled out for persistant aggressive fouling. I am not not even going to mention the penalty that even Kingcourt forwards conceded they were surprised to get. We actually feel over the hour that the refs performance was that bl antant. Genuinely disgusted by the ref and also by the chances we missed. all in all , as Clint said in one of his movies, a clusterfuck!

Thastheball- refereeing performances like that are and have been going on for years now. My own club are at the end of their tether with some referees yet we still seem to get the same referees over and over. We have asked the CCC down through the years for anybody but a select few whom we never seem to get fair play with. Doesn't happen.
I had one supporter tell me he never seen a more biased refereeing performance against us after our championship win a few weeks back. We as a club have come to accept that in some games we are not going to get fair play.
Its happening but what can we do. throwing the toys out of the pram is no use.

There was no malice in Alan Clarkes shoulder charge,deserved no more than a booking, if that. Im sorry to hear Cathal Collins has a broken arm but these things happen in games.
You talk about persistent aggressive fouling on Jelly. I counted 2, maybe 3 occasions where Wakely was done for fouling,. By the letter of the law he could have been sent off, if it was 3 times.
In the Quarter Final against Cuchulainns Cathal Collins was done for fouling Conor Smith at least 4 times, he didnt get gate. Swings and Roundabouts.

Jimmy Galligan did Cavan Gaels no favours but he definitely did not beat yas. There was an element within your team or club that took Kingscourt for granted, that was what beat yas.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up-again on September 28, 2010, 12:07:48 PM
Cavan Gaels please stop this pettish bickering and accept the beating that you got.

We know you are a good team, we know what you have achieved but show a bit of grace and dignity in defeat and try to use the disappointment you are all now feeling to come back a better team. If i gave you all a euro for everytime I got rode by a ref be it in club or college football over the years then I would be handing out a fair few shillings.

In fairness I have only spoken to one or two CG men since the game and they themselves felt the hungrier team won but if they honestly said in the dressing room after the game that none of them are willing to play for Cavan until the standards of refereeing are sorted out then I would prefer that that dressing room was locked shut and leave them all in there.

I am sure it won't happen and it was all just heat of the moment stuff but get down of that high horse, hold your hands up and say we weren't as hungry as we were in recent years and come back next year a better team. Don't forget CG had 7 lads on the field that were u21 so they will all learn from that experience.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cogito on September 28, 2010, 01:27:04 PM
Quote from: Thastheball on September 28, 2010, 12:32:11 PM
You are all missing the point, this is our countys show piece, and for that standard of referring to be accepted by you, says alot about your bootm line. For a game to be played at that level and for a ref to be so blatantly bais is not good enough. Its not just my opinion. I was talking to a neutral after the game, who came from another county to was the game, and he said he never seen such poor refereeing in years at that level of competition. He said he had seen that standard at club league games and earlier rounds of club championship, but at the level of a senior county final, he never seen the like of it, particularly, and i emphasis his words 'how bais the ref was' for the other team

I don't agree that Kingscourt were hungier, that is just a lazy mans analysis', as I said we responded the way a hungry team should, after the penalty that should never have been, we missed the chances, we had the chances to win it regardless of the ref, and we have no one to blame other than ourselves. We will have no grip with Kingscourt. As i said no one points any of this in Kingscourts way, we wished them the very best of luck in Ulster on sundasy evening at the kilmore, and that was genuine. We're used to having to beat the other team and the ref, but this Sunday it there for all to see, and conceded by many that the ref certainly did not favour us. Perhaps you were just as glad as the ref to shape the result.

I'm gonna jump in here boyo's and have my say. Been following this thread with interest for the last few days.

First of all that comment I have emboldened. Do you really wonder why people can't stomach your attitudes?

I have honestly never heard of a shower like Cavan Gaels. You win Cavan year after year, walk around with arrogance and cockiness like your world beaters, get beaten in Ulster but still think the lord gave you all the right to have everything your own way. You lost. Get over it.

I heard the ref was pretty generous to you against Cuchullains in the QF. Build us a bridge and play your violin off it.

The refereeing was bad. Even during the game he was putting his had up at times and not blowing the whistling and to be honest I found him very cofusing at times. I don't get too many Cavan games during the year as I am based in Wexford but I was home for the weekend and I honestly thought Kingscourt were willing to go that extra inch for the title.

I am certainly not saying the Gaels weren't hungry but do you genuinely believe your boys wanted that title as much as Kingscourt? If you do you are blind. They were limping around with cramps yet still harryying and blocking. I don't remember the last time I enjoyed a performance as much.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cogito on September 28, 2010, 01:50:50 PM
Quote from: Thastheball on September 28, 2010, 01:37:33 PM
Well i am certain that i can say that none of you hear have had to put up with the begrudery that we experience from having dominated the football for the past ten year in Cavan. No, none of you have experienced pratically very club wanting you beaten and then the refs after that, and that becomes even more evident in this thread. The laugh is that most of you agree that the ref favoured the opposition, but you don't concede that it might have favoured the result also. Thats doesn't tally.

You weren't at the cuchullians game numnut so don't comment, but I shall. The ref was also poor against Cuchullians,(f**k does that sound familiar) but at least he was crap for both teams. We got a player sent off in that game, and won it with 14 players. Cuchullians started the second half with 14 players on the pitch and that was there fault. The guy was having a piss when the ref threw the ball in, FA to do with the ref, its up to your team to get on the pitch especially when you had at least ten minute break at half time, no excuses

Firstly can you not have an honest debate without resorting to childish name calling? It would have been easy for my to call you an arrogant d**khead but i refrained from doing so.

Honestly your attitude is laughable. The whole world is against us and it's not fair. Whinge whinge whinge.

You think Crossmaglen will cry like this if they get beaten? Everyone accepts you have the best team in Cavan but this year you lost. For the penalty there was a tug on the jersey and I might be wrong but I think it was the umpire that actually flagged it. I don't recall one particular scoring free that Kingscourt got that wasn't a foul either.

If you got over this whole referee thing for one second you might notice that your defence was genuinely struggling to contain Kingscourt on the break and when the ball went in directly. Maybe that is why some fouling occured.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Swadman on September 28, 2010, 06:21:26 PM
Hmmmm...... same old story, when we're bet we blame the ref, and this applies to all the clubs not just the Gaels. (although they are top of the league at that too)

Look to yourselves - I have 2 questions:
1. Did the fact that there were no Cavan Gaels men involved at I.C. level (bar Jelly) take the edge off the team?
2. If the rumours of a boycott are true and they wont have any county men next year either, then are we seeing the start of a decline in their dominance at senior level?


Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Babe Ruth 47 on September 28, 2010, 07:38:27 PM
First of all, congratulations to Kingscourt, well deserved.

On a number of points raised here, firstly Johnstone deserved a yellow, took a kick at his man coming out for the kickout, albeit small, but was well spotted by the linesman and deserved. Helped the game as a whole to see him carded so early, cut out all the bad manners straight away. Ive been fortunate enough to see championship games the breath of the country this year and Ive see some great player in action, Cussen, Cadogan, McGourty, Joyce etc, not one off whom display the attitude problem like Johnstone on the field of play. He is undoubtedly a good player but will never be great unless he learns some manners.

Very unfortunate injury to Collins, he got on some great ball, and i wish him well, his absence certainly made a huge difference, but I don't think there was any malice in Clarke's challenge, though probably did deserve a yellow.

Thought the penalty was a penalty, though a ridiculus one to give away, the ball had gone well past by the time it happened. Young Leddy too, like his captain needs to learn some manners, all the time pulling, dragging and yapping, this time it cost them dearly.

They Gaels can be justifiably feel agrieved by Jimmy Galligan's decision at the end to let play continue after he clearly gestured for a free. Highly peculiar decision to renage especially consided it lead to a Kingscourt score.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on September 28, 2010, 08:42:58 PM
Pretty world class display of sore losing there from thatstheball methinks. Everyone is Cavan is against the Gaels and they have to beat the ref every time they go out. Against all odds they win 7 county titles in the last ten years, some achievement with all the forces lined up against them, you'd imagine that they would storm through the Ulster Club in the circumstances but, unfortunately, twas not to be. As Fitzpatrick in the Celt said at the weekend one of the Gaels mentors let the mask slip a bit after the semi final when he talked about Walsh being fit in time for the Ulster Club championships.

I would like to hear the views of Terry Coyle in due course who comes across as a genuinely reasonable poster.

In related stories, Louth and Kildare are withdrawing from next years Leinster championships and All Ireland series until the GAA get the reffing sorted out.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Terry Coyle on September 28, 2010, 11:58:14 PM
Have been reading the thread over the last few days and wanted to get over the disappointment before saying anything.

Firstly, and what should be the main topic of conversation, well done to Kingscourt! Great display of heart and determination. I hope other clubs take that on board and see what can be achieved. Remember this was a division 2 team last year.

On the topic of Jimmy Galligan - Did he cost us the game? Absolutely not. We had chances, didnt take them. Jelly was our only forward who really performed as a scoring threat. We had nothing else unfortunately on the day.

Now was Jimmy Galligan biased in a lot of his decisions? Totally. A blind man could see that. The work our forwards had to do to get a free compared to the Kingscourt forwards was 10 fold in comparison. Every neutral I have spoken to, and indeed overheard, have said that the refereeing was a scandal. This includes people from outside the county who knew nothing about the ref or a lot of the players. So this is just not us Gaels people complaining. Even a few Mullahoran people said it!!! Bottom line, refereeing in Cavan is a joke for everyone which needs to be rectified.

Can I make one last point as well? Our club has shown no signs of sore losers. Unfortunately people on here have seen some Gaels members act unsportingly, but which club doesnt have these people? The majority of Gaels people/players after the match clapped Kingscourt when they lifted the trophy and got on well with them out in the Kilmore after. So there are some decent folk. I think you are being harsh on ThatsTheBall (who I dont know at all). By the way, Cathal got a plate in his arm this morning in surgery so is on the mend. Wish him speedy recovery.

So to end best of luck to Kingscourt in Ulster. I sincerely hope they do well. Oh, and we'll be back!  ;D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on September 29, 2010, 08:02:22 AM
Quote from: Terry Coyle on September 28, 2010, 11:58:14 PM
Have been reading the thread over the last few days and wanted to get over the disappointment before saying anything.

Firstly, and what should be the main topic of conversation, well done to Kingscourt! Great display of heart and determination. I hope other clubs take that on board and see what can be achieved. Remember this was a division 2 team last year.

On the topic of Jimmy Galligan - Did he cost us the game? Absolutely not. We had chances, didnt take them. Jelly was our only forward who really performed as a scoring threat. We had nothing else unfortunately on the day.

Now was Jimmy Galligan biased in a lot of his decisions? Totally. A blind man could see that. The work our forwards had to do to get a free compared to the Kingscourt forwards was 10 fold in comparison. Every neutral I have spoken to, and indeed overheard, have said that the refereeing was a scandal. This includes people from outside the county who knew nothing about the ref or a lot of the players. So this is just not us Gaels people complaining. Even a few Mullahoran people said it!!! Bottom line, refereeing in Cavan is a joke for everyone which needs to be rectified.

Can I make one last point as well? Our club has shown no signs of sore losers. Unfortunately people on here have seen some Gaels members act unsportingly, but which club doesnt have these people? The majority of Gaels people/players after the match clapped Kingscourt when they lifted the trophy and got on well with them out in the Kilmore after. So there are some decent folk. I think you are being harsh on ThatsTheBall (who I dont know at all). By the way, Cathal got a plate in his arm this morning in surgery so is on the mend. Wish him speedy recovery.

So to end best of luck to Kingscourt in Ulster. I sincerely hope they do well. Oh, and we'll be back!  ;D

Can you shed any light on certain players deciding after the game to boycott the county team because if its true it makes a mockery of the sportsmanship of Cavan Gaels. For what its worth I really hope it is not true cos for me it means firstly, we are missing some of the best players in the county and secondly, due to bad attitudes, we could not really want these players involved with the County team anyway (what would this sort of player do if they got subbed, weren't selected etc)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on September 29, 2010, 01:05:34 PM
My own club is lacken but some of jimmys decisions were a bit bias..but  kingscout were the better team and deserved the win. Johnston was the only threat from cavan gaels in the fowards as well a s lyng giving the ball in.. The likes of mcclarey,niall muray and martin dunne when he came on were all very poor.. Maybe if they gaels didnt rely on johnston so much and other players stepped up they might have won.. i was delighted for kingscourt,they have had an outstanding season. they will probaly do the double and win the league,or make it a treble and win th Ulster club :o
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: drici on September 29, 2010, 04:45:36 PM
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Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Ollie on September 30, 2010, 12:29:04 AM
I think It's sad and disappointing that the majority of comments in the aftermath of the county final are expressing peoples delight in seeing Cavan Gaels being beaten rather than rejoicing in Kingscourts victory. I think this is a good example of the negative mentality and the begrudging element which seems to be installed in the mindsets of players and supporters in Cavan. For years Cavan Gaels have been successful in all age grades and probably will be for years to come. For this they have been subjected to hatred and hostility from all other clubs in Cavan. This ridiculous behaviour is a contributing factor in the deterioration of the standard of football in Cavan in both club and county level. It's been regularly documented that there's a lack of representation in recent Cavan teams from players from Cavan Gaels. Seeing as the majority of Cavan supporters would rather rub salt in their wounds in the wake of defeat and constantly bemoan the club at every opportunity for no good reason then it seems understandable why many of them choose not to play for their county. I for one don't blame them.

P.S. Well done Kingscourt. Your victory was fully deserved over the course of the year.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on September 30, 2010, 08:30:37 AM
Welcome to the board Ollie, but who are these scoundrels that hate the Gaels? Are you a Gaels man yourself? I think everyone on the board has congratulated Kingscourt and the disagreements have been over whether the Gaels were hard done by by the ref. Everybody likes to see the underdog beat the favourite in every sport. I'm sure most GAA people in Antrim and Armagh want to see St. Galls and Cross beaten just for a change. It doesn't mean they don't respect these teams and their achievements.
To say you don't blame the Gaels players for not playing for Cavan is a good example of the negative mentality installed in the mindset of players.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Terry Coyle on September 30, 2010, 09:32:46 AM
Its funny you should say that CC1 - every club would be the same if they had that sort of success. I remember lads telling me about 98, 99 when we lost to Mullahoran and Kingscourt respectively. The opposition players were saying something similar. Also, lads told me about 2000 as well when we bet Gowna in a league final. A certain high profile midfielder said that they were only worried about the Championship medals in their pockets. Point is, it happens everywhere. But doesnt make it right either.

About the dressing room after the game - I am not sure exactly what was said as only panel members were allowed in. I would imagine anything that was said was in the heat of the moment and can be taken with a pinch of salt.

What I heard being shouted on Sunday was horrible to hear, and this was from people from other clubs. Our players were called every name under the sun. I wouldnt mind if they were just cheering Kingscourt on but they were thrashing on our lads the whole game. One quote was "Thank f**k none of those tramps lined out for county this year" There were kids beside me and this is what they grow up hearing. It was pure hatred. But I would like to imagine its a minority as well. You are always going to get some idiots in any walk of life. Maybe its the success we have had, maybe its the towny team. I dont know.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Terry Coyle on September 30, 2010, 11:35:28 AM
I think its to do with Irish society to be honest. We dont like seeing someone doing well, have a quick snipe at them and wish for their fall. Can be seen in business, sport, politics whatever area of life. Pretty pathetic if you ask me.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on September 30, 2010, 12:23:07 PM
We'l move on but to summarise-

1. Jimmy did the Gaels no favours but didnt beat them.
2. He gave Kingscourt 1-9 in frees but still no evidence of any of these frees NOT actually being frees.
3. Cavan people in general are a jealous shower and always like to see boys being taken down a notch or 2 but this should not be mistaken with begrudgery, which is a different kettle of fish altogether.
4. Cavan Gaels will be back. Of that we can be sure.

Do we all concur??

In other news, the first of the trial games for the Cavan Senior team was held last night on the 3G pitch. Thats all I know. Anybody got any other info.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on September 30, 2010, 01:22:00 PM
Yes let's move on and I agree with you completely TC.
So was this the Development Squad type games Boojangles? I never heard a word about them. Are there more planned do you know?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on September 30, 2010, 01:29:03 PM
Quote from: Lawrence of Knockbride on September 30, 2010, 01:22:00 PM
Yes let's move on and I agree with you completely TC.
So was this the Development Squad type games Boojangles? I never heard a word about them. Are there more planned do you know?


I havent a clue TBH. Was jus chatting to a lad who was in at them. I'd assume there will be more games but I'd say it might just be trials this time around. The regionals didnt seem to work too well.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on September 30, 2010, 01:31:11 PM
Quote from: boojangles on September 30, 2010, 01:29:03 PM
Quote from: Lawrence of Knockbride on September 30, 2010, 01:22:00 PM
Yes let's move on and I agree with you completely TC.
So was this the Development Squad type games Boojangles? I never heard a word about them. Are there more planned do you know?


I havent a clue TBH. Was jus chatting to a lad who was in at them. I'd assume there will be more games but I'd say it might just be trials this time around. The regionals didnt seem to work too well.
.................understatement.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dougal on September 30, 2010, 01:51:13 PM
i heard some talk of 7-a-side games so they can get a start on narrowing down potential candidates.im surprised terry hasnt been on to ya yet booj,probably only looking at lads that arent still in the champo at the minute.i also heard a couple of weeks ago that terry and val went around all the clubs and got them to name their 3 best players,and name another few from other clubs that are good.

i see the minor replay is on after the junior final now.there was talk of the game being moved because the ladies first round of ulster club is on,on sunday.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on September 30, 2010, 02:03:43 PM
I'm not sure what a 7-a-side game would show.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Terry Coyle on September 30, 2010, 02:42:49 PM
Nice one we have moved on - was getting a bit tedious alright.

Never even knew there were trials on. Never agreed with trials though - players are not at their peak if they are out of Championship football for over a month.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dougal on September 30, 2010, 06:03:27 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on September 30, 2010, 03:52:07 PM
is there anymore lads in dublin eligible to play for cavan besides nesty smith.. i know its not a great thing to look at players from outside cavan but nesty was a decent addition and was better than a lot of our other forwards. I think there is a cahill fella from st brigids who can play with cavan,i think he was asked before when keoghan was manager. Maybe andrews could eb a help as he would know the dublin club players very well.. the county panel needs a big clear out from this years panel.

i overheard something about this at a match a few weeks ago.they seem to be looking into it,and if i heard right there is a dolan lad that plays for vals club,ballymun,who is quite good and elegible.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: whats my name on September 30, 2010, 06:51:45 PM
yea there is a cahill fella that plays with Bridget's Barry cahill i doubt he will come from playing senior football with Dublin to play with cavan although he is eligible to play with cavan as his parents are from mountnugent
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Giveitlong on September 30, 2010, 07:00:27 PM
Quote from: Lawrence of Knockbride on September 30, 2010, 02:03:43 PM
I'm not sure what a 7-a-side game would show.

To start with 7-a-side games is an inspired idea.

Especially when you are starting with a large number of players (which I assume Andrews is - after the big brainstorm a few weeks ago in the Kilmore). And of course the modern game has evolved much more into a game like 7s if we look at the way teams like Down, Tyrone, Kerry, Cork, Mayo have the patient build-up up to the middle third before the ball is released into the danger areas. But I don't think that's the main motivation.

It gives trialists lots more touches of the ball and possessions for Andrews to get a better sense of his ability.
In some of those pointless regional 15-a-side trial games, an unproven and unknown corner forward or wingforward might only get 5 touches of the ball, and then he's discarded and the chance is gone.
In a 7s game, if you work your socks off, you could have 30 touches of the ball.

Watching a player in 7-a-side tells you a lot:

- does he have all the key skills
- is he comfortable on the ball
- does he constantly make himself available to team mates, make intelligent (or stupid) runs
- can he tackle
- has he spatial awareness
- can he still make the right decision with the ball when he's wrecked, and work an opening
- (most importantly) and does he never ever give up, even when he is knackered, and fight hard for his team.

Because as sure as night follows day if Andrews sees any signs of laziness, then the guy who doesn't work in these trials won't make it to the next stage of the process.

So let's say Andrews is starting with a list of 120 names (it's quite possible), then this 7-a-side system where there's non stop action, is a great way of whittling it down to 60, and once that 60 is known then he can run a series of 15-a-side matches over 2,3 consecutive weeks and get a better sense of positions, of potential full backs etc.

Anyone who gets to this 7-a-side trial process, can never say he didn't get a chance.

And if you have all the key skills, and never ever give up even when you are knackered - then you have a chance.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dougal on September 30, 2010, 07:30:05 PM
also just after hearing that erne gaels u21s beat drumlane seniors in a challenge match,that is a serious outfit.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on September 30, 2010, 07:45:12 PM
Quote from: Giveitlong on September 30, 2010, 07:00:27 PM
Quote from: Lawrence of Knockbride on September 30, 2010, 02:03:43 PM
I'm not sure what a 7-a-side game would show.

To start with 7-a-side games is an inspired idea.

Especially when you are starting with a large number of players (which I assume Andrews is - after the big brainstorm a few weeks ago in the Kilmore). And of course the modern game has evolved much more into a game like 7s if we look at the way teams like Down, Tyrone, Kerry, Cork, Mayo have the patient build-up up to the middle third before the ball is released into the danger areas. But I don't think that's the main motivation.

It gives trialists lots more touches of the ball and possessions for Andrews to get a better sense of his ability.
In some of those pointless regional 15-a-side trial games, an unproven and unknown corner forward or wingforward might only get 5 touches of the ball, and then he's discarded and the chance is gone.
In a 7s game, if you work your socks off, you could have 30 touches of the ball.

Watching a player in 7-a-side tells you a lot:

- does he have all the key skills
- is he comfortable on the ball
- does he constantly make himself available to team mates, make intelligent (or stupid) runs
- can he tackle
- has he spatial awareness
- can he still make the right decision with the ball when he's wrecked, and work an opening
- (most importantly) and does he never ever give up, even when he is knackered, and fight hard for his team.

Because as sure as night follows day if Andrews sees any signs of laziness, then the guy who doesn't work in these trials won't make it to the next stage of the process.

So let's say Andrews is starting with a list of 120 names (it's quite possible), then this 7-a-side system where there's non stop action, is a great way of whittling it down to 60, and once that 60 is known then he can run a series of 15-a-side matches over 2,3 consecutive weeks and get a better sense of positions, of potential full backs etc.

Anyone who gets to this 7-a-side trial process, can never say he didn't get a chance.

And if you have all the key skills, and never ever give up even when you are knackered - then you have a chance.
That told me. :D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4sam on September 30, 2010, 08:01:36 PM
Quote from: whats my name on September 30, 2010, 06:51:45 PM
yea there is a cahill fella that plays with Bridget's Barry cahill i doubt he will come from playing senior football with Dublin to play with cavan although he is eligible to play with cavan as his parents are from mountnugent

Barry Cahills father is from Castlerahan and not Mountnugent, he has a brother that plays with St Brigids, maybe it is him you are thinking of Rodney?? Michael or something I think?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: skeog on September 30, 2010, 08:20:28 PM
what role did damien cassidy of derry have with cavan gaels? heard he was in charge not mr coyle
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on September 30, 2010, 08:21:28 PM
Nesty is about the one positive thing from Tommy Carrs two years in charge. Mind you I think he took some persuading to come on board, unless I'm mistaken we were on his case back in the days of the late Eamon Coleman. Whether he stays around now that Carr has gone time will tell. His most recent memory of wearing a Cavan jersey was that shameful day in the pisses of rain down in Cork, not gauranteed to get a lad geed up for a winter of heavy training. We could do with talent wherever we could find it but I'd say blokes outside the county will take a bit of encouraging given where we're at.

The only way from here is up.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on September 30, 2010, 08:38:56 PM
I know ye agreed to move on this morning but we will have the winter to hibernate. The best I can say is that extract from the Celt below can only be described as "odd"




Cavan Gaels manager Gareth Coyle laid the blame squarely at the door of referee Jimmy Galligan.

"You have to hand it to Kingscourt," said Coyle.

"We weren't complacent at all, we knew they'd come at us strongly and they play a good brand of football. I was quite happy with the first half performance, we got scores on the board, Kingscourt rallied and they just kept plugging away... But where the penalty decision came from, I just haven't a clue.

"It was textbook defending from Mark Leddy. I'm just in shock about it."

Asked how to explain his side being outscored 1-9 to 0-4 in the second half, Coyle was unequivocal.

"One word," he said, "the referee. "I wouldn't ever use the referee as an excuse but they scored 1-9 from free-kicks and when you do the video analysis, we'll see how many were actually free-kicks and how many weren't. The penalty was crucial and then the fact Cathal Collins is taken out of the game with a broken arm, and there's not even a yellow card, or a straight red shown, it's very questionable.

"I'm not going to detract from Kingscourt's performance, they played good football, they put us under pressure, they forced us into making mistakes and they picked us off point after point."
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: whats my name on September 30, 2010, 10:57:15 PM
barry cahills mother is from mountnugent as far as i know think they have a house there aswell
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on September 30, 2010, 11:10:31 PM
Giveitlong- I believe they are looking to replace Nicholas Walsh. Now if a certain Tyrone man doesn't get it I'd strongly advise that you hand in a CV.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on October 01, 2010, 11:56:14 AM
League fixtures for next year. Going on last years championship form there will be a few counties targeting us for two points.....................



NFL Round 1

Sat Feb 5th: Division 1: Armagh v Dublin; Division 2, Laois v Meath, Donegal v Sligo

Sunday Feb 6 (2.30):
Div 1: Kerry v Cork, Monaghan v Galway, Mayo v Down.

Div 2: Antrim v Kildare, Derry v Tyrone.

Div 3: Offaly v Cavan, Wexford v Waterford, Louth v Westmeath, Tipperary v Limerick.

Div 4: London v Kilkenny, Leitrim v Clare, Longford v Roscommon, Carlow v Wicklow, Fermanagh Bye.

NHL Div 1 (Rd 1): Sat Feb 12th: Tipperary v Kilkenny, 7.30pm

Sun Feb 13th (2.30): Div 1: Galway v Wexford, Cork v Offaly, Waterford v Dublin.

Div 2 (Rd 1): Westmeath v Laois, Down v Carlow, Kerry v Antrim, Clare v Limerick.

NFL Div 4 (Rd 2): London v Roscommon, Clare v Kilkenny, Leitrim v Wicklow, Carlow v Fermanagh, Longford Bye.

NHL Div 3A (Rd 1) (2.30): Wicklow v Kildare, Derry v Armagh, London v Meath.

NHL Div 3B (Rd 1) (2.30): Fingal v Monaghan, Louth v Sligo, Mayo v Roscommon, Donegal Bye.
NHL Div 4 (Rd 1) (2.30): Longford v South Down, Cavan v Fermanagh, Tyrone V Leitrim

Sat Feb 19: NFL Div 1 (Rd 2) (7.30): Dublin v Cork.
NFL Div 2 (Rd 2) (7.30): Tyrone v Donegal.

NFL Div 4 (Rd 3) (7.30): Fermanagh v Longford.
NHL Div 1 (Rd 2) (5.45): Dublin v Tipperary.

Sun 20 Feb: NFL Div 1 (Rd 2) (2.30): Mayo v Kerry, Down v Galway, Armagh v Monaghan

NFL Div 2 (Rd 2) (2.30): Kildare v Derry, Meath v Sligo, Laois v Antrim

NFL Div 3 (Rd 2) (2.30): Waterford v Limerick, Westmeath v Cavan, Offaly v Wexford, Louth v Tipperary

NFL Div 4 (Rd 3) (2.30): Kilkenny v Leitrim, Roscommon v Carlow, Wicklow v London
Clare Bye

NHL Div 1 (Rd 2) (2.30) Offaly v Galway, Kilkenny v Cork, Wexford v Waterford

NHL 2 (Rd 2) (2.30) Laois v Carlow, Antrim v Clare, Kerry v Down, Limerick v Westmeath

NHL Div 3A (Rd 2) (2.30): Meath v Wicklow, Armagh v London, Kildare v Derry

NHL Div 3B (Rd 2) (2.30): Donegal v Roscommon, Louth v Monaghan, Mayo v Fingal.
Sligo Bye

NHL Div 4 (Rd 2) (2.30): South Down v Tyrone, Leitrim v Cavan, Fermanagh v Longford.

Sat 26 Feb: NFL Div 1 (Rd 3) (7.30): Down v Armagh, Dublin v Kerry.

NFL Div 2 (Rd 3) (7.30): Antrim v Meath

NFL Div 3 (Rd 3) (7.30): Limerick v Offaly

Sun 27 Feb:
NFL Div 1 (Rd 3) (2.30): Cork v Monaghan, Galway v Mayo.

NFL 2 (Rd 3) (2.30): Sligo v Tyrone, Donegal v Kildare, Derry v Laois

NFL Div 3 (Rd 3) (2.30): Wexford v Louth, Cavan v Waterford, Tipperary v Westmeath

NFL Div 4 (Rd 4) (2.30): Fermanagh v Wicklow, London v Leitrim, Longford v Kilkenny, Carlow v Clare
Roscommon Bye

Sat 5 March: NHL Div 1 (Rd 3): Tipperary v Waterford

Sun 6 March: NHL 1 (Rd 3) (2.30): Cork v Galway, Offaly v Dublin, Kilkenny v Wexford

NHL Div 2 (Rd 3) (2.30): Laois v Antrim, Westmeath v Clare, Down v Limerick, Carlow v Kerry

NHL Div 3A (Rd 3) (2.30): Armagh v Kildare, Derry v Meath, London v Wicklow

NHL Div 3B (Rd 3) (2.30): Monaghan v Donegal, Fingal v Louth, Roscommon v Sligo
Mayo Bye

NHL Div 4 (Rd 3) (2.30): Cavan v Tyrone, Leitrim v Longford, Fermanagh v South Down

Sat 12 March: NFL 1 (Rd 4) (7.30): Kerry v Galway

NFL Div 2 (Rd 4) (7.30): Tyrone v Antrim

NHL Div 2 (Rd 4) (7.30): Limerick v Laois

Sun 13 March:
NFL Div 1 (Rd 4) (2.30): Mayo v Armagh, Cork v Down, Monaghan v Dublin.

NFL Div 2 (Rd 4) (2.30): Meath v Donegal, Kildare v Laois, Sligo v Derry.

NFL Div 3 (Rd 4) (2.30): Louth v Offaly, Waterford v Tipperary, Limerick v Cavan, Westmeath v Wexford

NFL Div 4 (Rd 5) (2.30): Wicklow v Longford, Roscommon v Fermanagh, Kilkenny v Carlow, Clare v London
Leitrim Bye

NHL Div 1 (Rd 4) (2.30): Galway v Kilkenny, Tipperary v Offaly, Waterford v Cork, Wexford v Dublin

NHL Div 2 (Rd 4) (2.30): Antrim v Carlow, Kerry v Westmeath, Clare v Down

NHL Div 3A (Rd 4) (2.30): Wicklow v Derry, Meath v Armagh, Kildare v London

NHL Div 3B (Rd 4) (2.30): Donegal v Fingal, Sligo v Monaghan, Louth v Mayo
Roscommon Bye

NHL Div 4 (Rd 4) (2.30): South Down v Leitrim, Longford v Cavan, Tyrone v Fermanagh.

Sat March 19:
NFL Div 1 (Rd 5) (7.30): Down v Monaghan

NFL Div 2 (Rd 5) (7.30): Derry v Donegal, Laois v Tyrone

Sunday March 20
NFL Div 1 (Rd 5) (2.30): Galway v Cork, Armagh v Kerry, Dublin v Mayo

NFL Div 2 (Rd 5) (2.30): Kildare v Meath, Antrim v Sligo

NFL Div 3 (Rd 5) (2.30): Louth v Limerick, Westmeath v Waterford, Offaly v Tipperary, Wexford v Cavan

NFL Div 4 (Rd 6) (2.30): Clare v Roscommon, Leitrim v Fermanagh, London v Longford, Kilkenny v Wicklow
Carlow Bye

Sunday March 27
NFL Div 4 (Rd 7) (2.30): Wicklow v Roscommon, Leitrim v Carlow, Clare v Longford, Kilkenny v Fermanagh
London Bye

NHL Div 1 (Rd 5) (2.30): Cork v Tipperary, Dublin v Galway, Offaly v Wexford, Kilkenny v Waterford

NHL Div 2 (Rd 5) (2.30): Westmeath v Antrim, Down v Laois, Carlow v Limerick, Clare v Kerry

NHL Div 3A (Rd 5) (2.30): Derry v London, Armagh v Wicklow, Kildare v Meath

NHL Div 3B (Rd 5) 2:30: Monaghan v Roscommon, Fingal v Sligo, Mayo v Donegal
Louth Bye

NHL Div 4 (Rd 5) 2.30: Leitrim v Fermanagh, Cavan v South Down, Tyrone v Longford

Saturday April 2
NFL Div 1 (Rd 6) 7.30: Dublin v Down

NFL Div 3 (Rd 6) (7.30): Cavan v Louth

NHL Div 2 (Rd 6) (7.30): Laois v Clare

Sunday April 3
NFL Div 1 (Rd 6) (2.30): Monaghan v Kerry, Mayo v Cork, Armagh v Galway

NFL Div 2 (Rd 6) (2.30): Donegal v Antrim, Tyrone v Kildare, Derry v Meath, Sligo v Laois

NFL Div 3 (Rd 6) (2.30): Limerick v Westmeath, Waterford v Offaly, Tipperary v Wexford

NFL Div 4 (Rd 8) (2.30): Longford v Leitrim, Roscommon v Kilkenny, Carlow v London, Fermanagh v Clare
Wicklow Bye

NHL Div 1 (Rd 6) (2.30): Galway v Tipperary, Offaly v Waterford, Wexford v Cork, Dublin v Kilkenny

NHL Div 2 (Rd 6)(2.30): Down v Antrim, Carlow v Westmeath, Limerick v Kerry
NHL Div 3B (Rd 6) (2.30): Donegal v Louth, Sligo v Mayo, Roscommon v Fingal
Monaghan Bye

Sunday April 10
NFL Div 1 (Rd 7) (2.30): Monaghan v Mayo, Kerry v Down, Galway v Dublin, Cork v Armagh

NFL Div 2 (Rd 7) (2.30): Antrim v Derry, Laois v Donegal, Kildare v Sligo, Meath v Tyrone

NFL Div 3 (Rd 7) (2.30): Westmeath v Offaly, Waterford v Louth, Limerick v Wexford, Cavan v Tipperary

NFL Div 4 (Rd 9) (2.30): Roscommon v Leitrim, Wicklow v Clare, Longford v Carlow, Fermanagh v London
Kilkenny Bye

NHL Div 3B (Rd 7) (2.30): Monaghan v Mayo, Sligo v Donegal, Roscommon v Louth
Fingal Bye
Sunday April 17
NHL Div 1, (Rd 7) (2.30): Cork v Dublin, Tipperary v Wexford, Waterford v Galway, Kilkenny v Offaly

NHL Div 2 (Rd 7) (2.30): Westmeath v Down, Antrim v Limerick, Kerry v Laois, Clare v Carlow.



Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on October 01, 2010, 01:13:24 PM
That fixture list looks a bit of a disaster,first two games away will be tough.. ???
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on October 01, 2010, 01:24:30 PM
Logistical disaster but it was always going to be. Trips to Wexford, Limerick and Tullamore. Not sure on the season ticket for this year.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on October 02, 2010, 12:19:45 PM
What idiot works out these fixtures. 4 away games in first 5 matches ???
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Ollie on October 02, 2010, 06:33:00 PM
Very little talk about the junior final and minor reply.

I think the junior final is to close to call. Both teams are capable of winning it on the day. Should be a good game. Haven't seen much of the junior championship so can't say more than that!
Minor reply is gonna be similar. Both teams have some very gifted young talent although The Gaels are missing Paul and Andrew Graham (Mickeys younger brothers) due to there sisters wedding. The county board refused to re-fix the game to a latter date which I thought was a bit mean although typical of them considering it was a Gaels request. Still should be a good encounter. St.Joseph are a powerful side with some big men. The midfield in both teams are quite strong and I feel whoever wins that battle will probably win the game.     
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on October 02, 2010, 08:01:01 PM
Quote from: Ollie on October 02, 2010, 06:33:00 PM
Very little talk about the junior final and minor reply.

I think the junior final is to close to call. Both teams are capable of winning it on the day. Should be a good game. Haven't seen much of the junior championship so can't say more than that!
Minor reply is gonna be similar. Both teams have some very gifted young talent although The Gaels are missing Paul and Andrew Graham (Mickeys younger brothers) due to there sisters wedding. The county board refused to re-fix the game to a latter date which I thought was a bit mean although typical of them considering it was a Gaels request. Still should be a good encounter. St.Joseph are a powerful side with some big men. The midfield in both teams are quite strong and I feel whoever wins that battle will probably win the game.   

Move a Minor Championship Final for a wedding?? Are ya serious?

The Junior final should be close and I can see a small upset on the cards. It may just be the Munchies time I feel. They play a nice brand of football with 2 good midfielders and 3 or 4 dangerous forwards. The same could probably be said for Swad but I jus hav an inkling that the younger Munterconnaught team may be hungrier.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dougal on October 02, 2010, 08:22:16 PM
i doubt paul would of been playing anyway,looked to be a bad enough injury the other day.id be starting finbar rudden at midfield to get some scores on the board early on,and if o connor is causing problems then he can drop back.should be a good game again,but gaels seem to be fond of replays,they havent won any of their championship matches first time round.

i dont think ive seen any junior football at all this year so cant really say much.both teams have some very good players,and if both play football should be a good match.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on October 02, 2010, 08:54:35 PM
Quote from: Ollie on October 02, 2010, 06:33:00 PM
Very little talk about the junior final and minor reply.

I think the junior final is to close to call. Both teams are capable of winning it on the day. Should be a good game. Haven't seen much of the junior championship so can't say more than that!
Minor reply is gonna be similar. Both teams have some very gifted young talent although The Gaels are missing Paul and Andrew Graham (Mickeys younger brothers) due to there sisters wedding. The county board refused to re-fix the game to a latter date which I thought was a bit mean although typical of them considering it was a Gaels request. Still should be a good encounter. St.Joseph are a powerful side with some big men. The midfield in both teams are quite strong and I feel whoever wins that battle will probably win the game.   

The co board really are out to get ye, imagine not changing the match for a wedding - bastards.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on October 03, 2010, 12:12:03 AM
I think Swad will take the final comfortably. Lost last year because they had their goalie sent off and conceded 4 goals. McKiernan the Cunninghams, Robbie Prior and Curran would get a place on a lot of Senior panels. If they don't lose their heads I think they should win by 4-5. Munchies earlier win means nothing, Swad had decided not to play football that day, corner forwards standing with their arms folded etc..

And the rest of West Cavan will be delighted to see them out of both Junior Championship and Leauge!!! :D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Breffni_Yank on October 03, 2010, 02:13:00 AM
Well lads I missed the county final cos of work commitments but I am glad to see Kingscourt get their win and I know they will have enjoyed it immensely. I wouldn't know a whole lot about Junior either this weekend but I can tell you now the men from outside Virginia fancy their chances.

Turning away from that has there been any word out of the new management at all in times of late? Trials? Plans? A trainer?

I saw there someone mentioned a 7's type tournament and I think it is a great idea for a start. It means straightaway that a back has twice the work to do because half the men are on the field and the forward will get twice as much ball if he goes looking for it.

Obviously after you narrow down the selection then you resort to 15 a side.

Has last year's panel officially be dissolved? I think it should. Time to draw a line under the whole Carr era and start a fresh although I am sure many of them will return. God he really did make us worse than Keoghan. I don't think he can ever get another IC job again. The Rossies did warn me a few years back that I should be worried - I didn't really believe them at the time.

I have seen a handful of club games since I got home and to be honest I haven't been overly impressed. I hope Val or Terry have a good eye for a player.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dougal on October 03, 2010, 02:50:10 AM
i think the 7 a side games are more for the players terry and val havent seen in the champ so far this year.it's good to know that a manger intends on seeing the best players from every club in the county before the closed season.at least if we do bad this year we know the manager put plenty of effort into it,unlike tommy.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on October 03, 2010, 07:20:04 PM
Swad won the Junior by 5 or 6. Better team won. They were on top for most of the game and were good value for their win. Robbie Prior was easily the best player on the field but the MOTM award went to Gearoid Mc Kiernan. ::)

Cavan Gaels won the Minor replay with the Graham brothers playing. St Joes had their midfielder sent off early in the 1st half when Joes were 5 or 6 points up and slowly but surely the Gaels got back into it and won pulliing up. By far the better team and really should have had it wrapped up the 1st day.
Pauric Sexton,an Under 16, got the MOTM and was full deserving of it, kicking 3 vital points in a row in the 2nd half when all around him seemed to be kicking wides.
Kevin Bouchier from Arva at times nearly bet the Gaels on his own and although he is slightly greedy he has serious potential and lets hope we see him in the Blue of Cavan next year.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on October 03, 2010, 07:48:55 PM
Swad eased through as predicted. I agree with boojangles Robbie Prior should have got MOTM. One of the Munchie waterboys sprayed water in his face at the sideline in the beginning of the second half. If it had been any other Swad player there would have been a riot. Robbie walked away and within minutes had kicked 2 outstanding scores. He's a fantastic player. Gearoid was very good though and has great potential. As does Chris Curran.

The Minor game was a terrible standard.. The Gaels played the extra man in the middle of the field for the second half and cleared up. Bouchier hit a goal and a few points at the beginning of the second half that showed his huge potential but he faded then and didn't make great use of possession in the second half. Numbers 4 and 10 were very good for the Gaels. 
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up-again on October 03, 2010, 07:53:53 PM
Who the hell picks the MOTM award though? Stevie Wonder ;D

There is no doubting McKiernan's potential though, if we keep him and Givney on the straight and narrow I would be fairly confident we would have one of the top midfields in the country in a few years. I really think they can be that good.

Prior has been class for year's but with the players Swad have they really should be a good Intermediate side. Their spine is better than most teams.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on October 03, 2010, 08:11:34 PM
Robbie prior hit two outstanding points inside a minute in the second half..classy forward he is about 34 now. bouchier was very good in first half but missed some handy frees.. but he was the best forward on show,he was up against it when they went down to 14 men as they dropped a lad back.. there is a lad from my club niall mckiernan who has been called into the senior panel,he is going to be top class player if his head is right.. he is only gone 19 i would rate more than georid mckiernan,although grd mckn is very good..
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up-again on October 03, 2010, 08:27:37 PM
I doubt Niall has been called into the senior panel to be honest because I don't think such a thing exists at the minute  ::) Although I may be wrong.

He might well be in for trials but I think Niall's time would be better served trying to settle into the u21 set-up this year and develop there in a less pressurized environment. There is no doubt he has potential and himself and Gearoid will make an excellent midfield for the u21's next year. One will need to learn how to defend though ;D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: beer baron on October 03, 2010, 08:30:36 PM
Robbie Prior has been a very good footballer for a number of years but by God he was 1 of the most annoying men i've ever played against,going down as if he was shot every 2 minutes,surprised he didn't  go down injured after getting water squirted at him today! Fair play to Swad anyway!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on October 03, 2010, 09:00:21 PM
Quote from: put-it-up-again on October 03, 2010, 08:27:37 PM
I doubt Niall has been called into the senior panel to be honest because I don't think such a thing exists at the minute  ::) Although I may be wrong.

He might well be in for trials but I think Niall's time would be better served trying to settle into the u21 set-up this year and develop there in a less pressurized environment. There is no doubt he has potential and himself and Gearoid will make an excellent midfield for the u21's next year. One will need to learn how to defend though ;D
Yeah I reckon Niall looks very good but if he's 19 I'd leave him with the U-21s after xmas and if he progresses through the spring then so be it.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on October 03, 2010, 11:03:07 PM
Quote from: put-it-up-again on October 03, 2010, 08:27:37 PM
I doubt Niall has been called into the senior panel to be honest because I don't think such a thing exists at the minute  ::) Although I may be wrong.

He might well be in for trials but I think Niall's time would be better served trying to settle into the u21 set-up this year and develop there in a less pressurized environment. There is no doubt he has potential and himself and Gearoid will make an excellent midfield for the u21's next year. One will need to learn how to defend though ;D

You picking the Under 21 team now Put it Up?? I'd hope there would be a few boys that would have a thing or 2 to say about that comment.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on October 03, 2010, 11:48:28 PM
Quote from: put-it-up-again on October 03, 2010, 07:53:53 PM
Who the hell picks the MOTM award though? Stevie Wonder ;D

There is no doubting McKiernan's potential though, if we keep him and Givney on the straight and narrow I would be fairly confident we would have one of the top midfields in the country in a few years. I really think they can be that good.

Prior has been class for year's but with the players Swad have they really should be a good Intermediate side. Their spine is better than most teams.

I can't comment on Givney but McKiernan's temperament and attitude is still questionable.. All credit to him today though he took lots of abuse and didn't loose the cool. I thought the ref was poor, gave Munchies a lot of decisions. Also the linesman near the stand for the minor game must have been from Cavan Gaels! Called everything for the Gaels..
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up-again on October 03, 2010, 11:51:34 PM
Quote from: boojangles on October 03, 2010, 11:03:07 PM
Quote from: put-it-up-again on October 03, 2010, 08:27:37 PM
I doubt Niall has been called into the senior panel to be honest because I don't think such a thing exists at the minute  ::) Although I may be wrong.

He might well be in for trials but I think Niall's time would be better served trying to settle into the u21 set-up this year and develop there in a less pressurized environment. There is no doubt he has potential and himself and Gearoid will make an excellent midfield for the u21's next year. One will need to learn how to defend though ;D

You picking the Under 21 team now Put it Up?? I'd hope there would be a few boys that would have a thing or 2 to say about that comment.

Yeah i got the managers job there last week. Apparently myself and Lawrence of Knockbride were the pick of the bunch. I hear you are being looked at for the minor job BooJ so keep your head up although if Myles can commit he might just pip you because of his experience.

I would be very surprised if the two McKiernan's aren't midfield next year. Two big men that can play a bit of ball. Cavan football should be looking to develop as many of them as possible in my opinion. But sure then again what do i know  :-[

If Gearoid is fit next year and not playing at centrefield for the 21's, I will walk around Drumalee in the nip with my dog, how is that for you  :D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dougal on October 04, 2010, 12:32:12 AM
congrats to the gaels,today,kept going,even though they looked to be bet at half time.red card was very harsh but thats the way things go.the gaels have been the best team in minor for years.we will come back stronger next year and hopefully win some silverwere.we've been close for four years,if this team team doesnt win something i dont know what i'll do.hopefully more teams will put in the sane effort the gaels do and really push for a county tiltle.

p.s. you mite aswell ignore everything i just said cos im fulll.  ;D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Swadman on October 04, 2010, 09:58:46 AM
THANKS FOR THE CONGRATS AND COMMENTS.
I was worried about the Munchies. They have the ability to get goals and had put up some big scores but it looked like our lads had the edge all game. The Munchie goal did bring them back into it but Robbie Priors' 2 points (crucial time) had us pulling away again. You won't have seen 2 better points from either side of the field all year. He could have got MOTM but possibly Geariod's work rate and ball carrying (despite his man dragging out of him) swung it  his way. We have to play them in the League Final in a few weeks, interesting to see how that goes.
P.S.
Send more beer   
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: 118cmal on October 04, 2010, 11:47:44 AM
You must be the only man from swad awake at ten this morning!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on October 04, 2010, 02:03:05 PM
The party just finishing up at that time Swadman?!

Gearoid is a fine carrier of the ball, very very strong runner and can kick a score. Pity he didn't rattle the net himself in the final few minutes as opposed to passing it but good to see the unselfishness too. Mark Cunningham has a nice left peg too. If he had better manners he'd be a great player.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on October 04, 2010, 04:12:14 PM
Quote from: Westside on October 03, 2010, 11:48:28 PM
Quote from: put-it-up-again on October 03, 2010, 07:53:53 PM
Who the hell picks the MOTM award though? Stevie Wonder ;D

There is no doubting McKiernan's potential though, if we keep him and Givney on the straight and narrow I would be fairly confident we would have one of the top midfields in the country in a few years. I really think they can be that good.

Prior has been class for year's but with the players Swad have they really should be a good Intermediate side. Their spine is better than most teams.

I can't comment on Givney but McKiernan's temperament and attitude is still questionable.. All credit to him today though he took lots of abuse and didn't loose the cool. I thought the ref was poor, gave Munchies a lot of decisions. Also the linesman near the stand for the minor game must have been from Cavan Gaels! Called everything for the Gaels..

He called everything for the Gaels because they were all Cavan Gaels balls. I was sitting right behind the 3 questionable decisions beside the dug out and he got them all 100% right. St Joes supporters were shouting from up behind as happens in tight games but they were wrong.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on October 04, 2010, 04:23:14 PM
Quote from: put-it-up-again on October 03, 2010, 11:51:34 PM
Quote from: boojangles on October 03, 2010, 11:03:07 PM
Quote from: put-it-up-again on October 03, 2010, 08:27:37 PM
I doubt Niall has been called into the senior panel to be honest because I don't think such a thing exists at the minute  ::) Although I may be wrong.

He might well be in for trials but I think Niall's time would be better served trying to settle into the u21 set-up this year and develop there in a less pressurized environment. There is no doubt he has potential and himself and Gearoid will make an excellent midfield for the u21's next year. One will need to learn how to defend though ;D

You picking the Under 21 team now Put it Up?? I'd hope there would be a few boys that would have a thing or 2 to say about that comment.

Yeah i got the managers job there last week. Apparently myself and Lawrence of Knockbride were the pick of the bunch. I hear you are being looked at for the minor job BooJ so keep your head up although if Myles can commit he might just pip you because of his experience.

I would be very surprised if the two McKiernan's aren't midfield next year. Two big men that can play a bit of ball. Cavan football should be looking to develop as many of them as possible in my opinion. But sure then again what do i know  :-[

If Gearoid is fit next year and not playing at centrefield for the 21's, I will walk around Drumalee in the nip with my dog, how is that for you  :D

I have no doubt the 2 Mc Kiernans are fine footballers but to be certain of the 2 of them manning the midfield positions at the start of October is a wee bit premature. You obviously have a better knowledge of the age group than me but there are 2 or 3 lads that I can think of who may have a say in that position.
IMO Gearoid and Niall are too alike to play alongside eachother. Both lefties who can field ball all day and provide the physical presence needed at Midfield but IMO every team needs a midfielder who can get up and down the field and do the hard running. Neither of these 2 boys will do that. They are both attack minded.
I have no doubt Gearoid if fit and everything else right will be 1st choice midfielder ( so no need to be walking round Drumalee naked- I wouldn't put your poor dog through that!! :D) but I think the Lacken man may work better in the Full- Forward line.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Ollie on October 05, 2010, 01:04:32 AM
The Minor final was by no means a classic. Both teams played good football at times but not consistently. St' Josephs were brilliant in the first 10 mins up until there midfielder got sent off. They struggled from there on in. The Gaels wasted so much possession and good scoring opportunities in the 2nd half. Once they they drew level they never looked back and the St.Joseph lads heads dropped. The extra man made all the difference for the Gaels. Some good performances on both sides notably Pauric Sexton, Cian Burns, Vincent Coyle and Stephan Murray who are all under age next year. For St. Joseph Finbarr Rudden, Kevin Bouchier and Gary Tubman put in a good performance especially Bouchier who looks like an exciting prospect for the future.       
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up-again on October 05, 2010, 12:37:33 PM
Quote from: boojangles on October 04, 2010, 04:23:14 PM
Quote from: put-it-up-again on October 03, 2010, 11:51:34 PM
Quote from: boojangles on October 03, 2010, 11:03:07 PM
Quote from: put-it-up-again on October 03, 2010, 08:27:37 PM
I doubt Niall has been called into the senior panel to be honest because I don't think such a thing exists at the minute  ::) Although I may be wrong.

He might well be in for trials but I think Niall's time would be better served trying to settle into the u21 set-up this year and develop there in a less pressurized environment. There is no doubt he has potential and himself and Gearoid will make an excellent midfield for the u21's next year. One will need to learn how to defend though ;D

You picking the Under 21 team now Put it Up?? I'd hope there would be a few boys that would have a thing or 2 to say about that comment.

Yeah i got the managers job there last week. Apparently myself and Lawrence of Knockbride were the pick of the bunch. I hear you are being looked at for the minor job BooJ so keep your head up although if Myles can commit he might just pip you because of his experience.

I would be very surprised if the two McKiernan's aren't midfield next year. Two big men that can play a bit of ball. Cavan football should be looking to develop as many of them as possible in my opinion. But sure then again what do i know  :-[

If Gearoid is fit next year and not playing at centrefield for the 21's, I will walk around Drumalee in the nip with my dog, how is that for you  :D

I have no doubt the 2 Mc Kiernans are fine footballers but to be certain of the 2 of them manning the midfield positions at the start of October is a wee bit premature. You obviously have a better knowledge of the age group than me but there are 2 or 3 lads that I can think of who may have a say in that position.
IMO Gearoid and Niall are too alike to play alongside eachother. Both lefties who can field ball all day and provide the physical presence needed at Midfield but IMO every team needs a midfielder who can get up and down the field and do the hard running. Neither of these 2 boys will do that. They are both attack minded.
I have no doubt Gearoid if fit and everything else right will be 1st choice midfielder ( so no need to be walking round Drumalee naked- I wouldn't put your poor dog through that!! :D) but I think the Lacken man may work better in the Full- Forward line.

I said previously one of them may have to learn how defend and in fairness I am hardly picking the team now am I? Simply giving an opinion.

Thank god I don't have to go walking through Drumalee the last two nights have been sleepless with the thought of it ;) Who are the other fella's you think might have a say on it anyway? I can't think of too many natural fielders at that age group. Robert Maloney Dernham could be moulded into a hard-running type fielder but struggling to think of some after that.//
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on October 05, 2010, 02:37:11 PM
Packie leddy will be involved aswell somewhere on that team probaly at midfield with niall mckiernan at ff as booj mentioned.. They have a very strong u21 team next year,o meara,dara tighe,shane gray,oisin minagh,g mckiernan,p leddy,nialll smith,barry reilly,mcclarey,maloney derham,niall mcdermot,kevin tierney,shane tierney,were all on this years panel as well as niall murray who wasnt available this year for u21 championship.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Terry Coyle on October 05, 2010, 02:55:26 PM
Agree totally about Maloney-Derham PIU, he actually has some pair of hands and is deceptively strong. The man will run all day long and could easily do box to box. In fairness it looks strong panel on paper, but where have we heard that before? Would Bouchier make the step up to Under 21 grade or is he still minor next year?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on October 05, 2010, 03:05:14 PM
bouchier is minor next year.. im not sure if he will play county minor next year, he plays a lot of soccer and prefers it too playing gaelic.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on October 05, 2010, 04:21:41 PM
The U-21s are missing Givney and D. McKiernan and Bud Fitz, all of whom accounted for a lot of the scores Cavan got last year. Do they have the talent to replace them with up front to challenge in Ulster again?

At least nobody will have to face Michael Murphy at that grade again..
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on October 05, 2010, 05:05:00 PM
Quote from: put-it-up-again on October 05, 2010, 12:37:33 PM
Quote from: boojangles on October 04, 2010, 04:23:14 PM
Quote from: put-it-up-again on October 03, 2010, 11:51:34 PM
Quote from: boojangles on October 03, 2010, 11:03:07 PM
Quote from: put-it-up-again on October 03, 2010, 08:27:37 PM
I doubt Niall has been called into the senior panel to be honest because I don't think such a thing exists at the minute  ::) Although I may be wrong.

He might well be in for trials but I think Niall's time would be better served trying to settle into the u21 set-up this year and develop there in a less pressurized environment. There is no doubt he has potential and himself and Gearoid will make an excellent midfield for the u21's next year. One will need to learn how to defend though ;D

You picking the Under 21 team now Put it Up?? I'd hope there would be a few boys that would have a thing or 2 to say about that comment.

Yeah i got the managers job there last week. Apparently myself and Lawrence of Knockbride were the pick of the bunch. I hear you are being looked at for the minor job BooJ so keep your head up although if Myles can commit he might just pip you because of his experience.

I would be very surprised if the two McKiernan's aren't midfield next year. Two big men that can play a bit of ball. Cavan football should be looking to develop as many of them as possible in my opinion. But sure then again what do i know  :-[

If Gearoid is fit next year and not playing at centrefield for the 21's, I will walk around Drumalee in the nip with my dog, how is that for you  :D

I have no doubt the 2 Mc Kiernans are fine footballers but to be certain of the 2 of them manning the midfield positions at the start of October is a wee bit premature. You obviously have a better knowledge of the age group than me but there are 2 or 3 lads that I can think of who may have a say in that position.
IMO Gearoid and Niall are too alike to play alongside eachother. Both lefties who can field ball all day and provide the physical presence needed at Midfield but IMO every team needs a midfielder who can get up and down the field and do the hard running. Neither of these 2 boys will do that. They are both attack minded.
I have no doubt Gearoid if fit and everything else right will be 1st choice midfielder ( so no need to be walking round Drumalee naked- I wouldn't put your poor dog through that!! :D) but I think the Lacken man may work better in the Full- Forward line.

I said previously one of them may have to learn how defend and in fairness I am hardly picking the team now am I? Simply giving an opinion.

Thank god I don't have to go walking through Drumalee the last two nights have been sleepless with the thought of it ;) Who are the other fella's you think might have a say on it anyway? I can't think of too many natural fielders at that age group. Robert Maloney Dernham could be moulded into a hard-running type fielder but struggling to think of some after that.//

Maloney Derham would be my ideal choice. Have been very impressed with him.He has grown into a big man and he his fitness looks excellent. He can defend and attack. After him, Colm Smith from Kingscourt could also do the job I'm talking about.
Packie Leddy has alot of potential but may be slightly lazy for midfield for that level.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up-again on October 05, 2010, 07:43:07 PM
Yeah I would be very interested in seeing him there myself now to be honest. I would be quite condfident that we will b competitive at that age group but I don't think we should be talking about the u21 team just yet. Let have the Christmas dinner first  ;D

Does anybody else think this is a stupid time of year to be running off the u21 championship? I am sure I have mentioned it in previous years but I just never understood it to be honest.

I see there is a lot of amalgamations too, obviously team's are struggling for numbers big time.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: PhilsJemmysField on October 07, 2010, 09:19:35 AM
County board always seem to make a fairly coherent argument about when else can it be run. As in the springtime you have county U21 and end of sigerson etc. We all think it is a crap time but really hard to fit it in elsewhere. In fairness this year we cannot have any major complaints with the fixture plan. At least it looks like we should get the U21 run off fairly fast.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: whats my name on October 07, 2010, 08:19:31 PM
champioship draw on tonight lets hope we get fermanagh again knowing our luck it will prob be down or tyrone
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on October 07, 2010, 08:25:52 PM
winners of Donegal or Antrim....


hmmmm....


Winners play Tyrone or Monaghan
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on October 07, 2010, 08:36:56 PM
Quote from: whats my name on October 07, 2010, 08:19:31 PM
champioship draw on tonight lets hope we get fermanagh again knowing our luck it will prob be down or tyrone
Knowing our luck? I think we can blame everything but luck for our poor showing in recent years. And again this year we've come out alright, in the first round anyway.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on October 08, 2010, 02:26:13 AM
What's everyones predictions for the intermediate on Sunday
I think Drumlane by 3.
Sorry Boojangles!!  :-*  ;D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on October 08, 2010, 08:38:44 AM
Haven't seen Drumalee this year but have seen Drumlane. Strong if unspectacular spine to the team and will be hard to beat. But I hear that Drumalee are a dogged shower too. A nil all draw maybe. Best of luck Boojangles in any case although I'm sure you're sooooooooo in the zone you won't be visiting this site this side of Sunday.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Swadman on October 08, 2010, 09:02:27 AM
Swad won the Junior Championship in 2006, the same year Drumalee won the Intermediate. Swad are this years Junior champions......... an omen for ya there Boojangles !!!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on October 08, 2010, 01:27:40 PM
Next years Ulster Draw, could be worse. Mind the winners of Antrim/Donegal will be saying it could be a lot worse.

Targets, win that game, be competitive against Tyrone/Pickers, win a game in the qualifiers and don't go out without a good honest to god fight. Come to think of it, exact same targets as I would have had in mind last year and the year before which weren't met in either case. Sure we can only hope that the new management team will bring out a bit of pride/committment/whatever.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on October 08, 2010, 01:28:32 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on October 08, 2010, 11:57:07 AM
lawrence do you not attend knocbride games,drumalee played them in the semi final  :D
No, I'm not from Knockbride.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up-again on October 08, 2010, 01:44:34 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on October 08, 2010, 11:57:07 AM
lawrence do you not attend knocbride games,drumalee played them in the semi final  :D

He is from Knockbride as much as I am!

Your realistic ac39,,,I was thinking more along the lines of bringing Sam home ;D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on October 08, 2010, 03:27:15 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on October 08, 2010, 01:57:39 PM
which club are you from then?

If you want to chat him up send him a pm :D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on October 09, 2010, 11:24:30 AM
I'm a member of the official Larry Reilly supporters club.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up-again on October 09, 2010, 12:57:46 PM
Quote from: Lawrence of Knockbride on October 09, 2010, 11:24:30 AM
I'm a member of the official Larry Reilly supporters club.

We all dream of a team of Larry Reillys, a team of Larry Reillys, a team of Larry Reillys.

And number one is Larry Reilly,
And number two is Larry Reilly,

Etc Etc.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on October 10, 2010, 06:53:53 PM
YES!!!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on October 10, 2010, 07:12:43 PM
Quote from: boojangles on October 10, 2010, 06:53:53 PM
YES!!!

Congrats and well done
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on October 10, 2010, 07:35:26 PM
Drumalee deserved the win today. They were the better team from the start and looked more dangerous running with the ball at drumlane.. Brennan was excellent in the second half, he is a real leader, and made the difference id say for drumalee this year after comming back,going on that performance. ferncombe and and enda mccormick were good in the backs,booj had a solid game at centre forward and hit some good scores,gerry reilly played well and gary malone.. Gaffney took the goal very well and hit a few frees but didnt do a awful lot, . Dane o dowd and probaly borry corrigan were the only players who played for drumlane.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on October 10, 2010, 08:10:05 PM
Quote from: boojangles on October 10, 2010, 06:53:53 PM
YES!!!
Well done Boojangles and well played although I thought you were going to get on the wrong side of the ref ;D.
Thoroughly deserved. The more fluent agile team won with better support play with and without the ball. What the hell are you doing on here so soon after the game? Get down to the orchard and if Gerry does a dance make sure to get it on video for us.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on October 10, 2010, 11:01:22 PM
Quote from: boojangles on October 10, 2010, 06:53:53 PM
YES!!!

Congrats Horse,you had a serious game tday aswell!!!
dont want to see you on here until next weekend,
Enjoy yourself.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: PhilsJemmysField on October 11, 2010, 11:40:03 AM
Anybody at any of the U21 games at the Weekend. Saw St Killians beat St Finbarrs by a point. St Finbars had a young lad at the middle of the field that took Eugene Keating to the cleaners. But Killians had a wee bit more class in the forward area. Conor Smith is a class act if only you get a couple of stone lighter.

Drumalee good value for the Win, thought Raymond was his usually pinicky self. Brennan place kicking from the ground was excellent just would'nt be sure about this idea that he kicks every free and line ball in the ground.   
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Swadman on October 11, 2010, 02:29:00 PM
Quote from: Swadman on October 08, 2010, 09:02:27 AM
Swad won the Junior Championship in 2006, the same year Drumalee won the Intermediate. Swad are this years Junior champions......... an omen for ya there Boojangles !!!

AND SO IT CAME TO PASS.......

Well Done
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Donegal Danny on October 12, 2010, 10:59:26 AM
Just wondering whats the latest with Kingscourt, i see they are underdogs against Glenties in this weeks Ulster Club. Considering they beat Cavan Gaels and are playing at home,and the awful record of Donegal clubs in this competition  i think they are great value at 11/10. Just want to know what they are like at home and have they any injuries and are they taking the Ulster club serious or are they still on the beer?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on October 12, 2010, 11:18:08 AM
Quote from: Donegal Danny on October 12, 2010, 10:59:26 AM
Just wondering whats the latest with Kingscourt, i see they are underdogs against Glenties in this weeks Ulster Club. Considering they beat Cavan Gaels and are playing at home,and the awful record of Donegal clubs in this competition  i think they are great value at 11/10. Just want to know what they are like at home and have they any injuries and are they taking the Ulster club serious or are they still on the beer?
Wouldn't have a clue and there aren't any Kingscout contributors on the board as far as I know.
What about Glenties? Have they still some of the old boys hanging around? McGuinness and Gildea?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Donegal Danny on October 12, 2010, 01:27:36 PM
No all there older players are gone. Mc GUINNESS was player manager last year when they were beaten in the county final. He really wasn't up too it and was poor at midfield. Gildea and Paddy Campbell are retired a couple of years now, although Campbell is player manager of Steelstown who lost the Derry intermediate Final last week. Glenties are young and light but have a few good forwards like Leo Mc LOONE and Dermot "The Brick" Molloy. If Kingscourt beat Cavan Gaels they must be decent and playing in your own pitch in front of a good local support must be worth 2 points a least. That why i think 11/10 is a great value bet.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Blue06 on October 12, 2010, 03:18:34 PM
Dr. McKenna Cup 2011

All Sunday games at 2.00 p.m.:
All midweek games at 7.30 p.m.
(Extra time to be played in Semi finals & Final)

Section A: UUJ, Fear Manach, Tír Eoghain, Dún na nGall
Section B: QUB, An Cabhán, Doíre, Muineachán
Section C: Naomh Mhuire, An Dún, Ard Mhacha, Aontroim

9th Jan:  Roinn 1: Section A
                             UUJ v Fermanagh at Brewster Park
                             Tyrone v Donegal at Healy Park
                              Section B           
                              QUB v Cavan at Kingspan Breffni Park
                              Derry v Monaghan at Celtic Park
                              Section C
                              St. Mary's v Down at Pairc Esler
                              Armagh v Antrim at Athletic's Grounds

16th Jan: Round 2: Section A
                              Fermanagh v Tyrone at Brewster Park
                              Donegal v UUJ at MacCumhaill Park
                             Section B
                              Cavan v Derry at Kingspan Breffni Park
                              Monaghan v QUB at Clones
                             Section C                             
                              Down v Armagh at Pairc Esler
                              Antrim v St. Mary's at Casement Park

19th Jan: Round 3: Section A                             
                              UUJ v Tyrone at Healy Park
                              Donegal v Fermanagh at MacCumhaill Park
                               Section B
                              Monaghan v Cavan at Inniskeen
                              Derry v QUB at Celtic Park
                              Section C                                                       
                              Antrim v Down at Casement Park
                              Armagh v St. Mary's at Athletic's Grounds

22nd / 23rd Jan:  Semi Finals: (1) Winner of Section C v Winner of Section B
                                                 (2)  Winner of Section A v 4th Placed Team

29th Jan: Final:  1 v 2


2011 Cadbury's Under 21 Football Championship:

All games at 8.00p.m.unless stated otherwise
(Extra time must be played if required in all games)

9th March First Round:
1. 1. Doíre v  2. Ard Mhacha                                             

16th March: Quarter Finals:
                                          (b) 4. Fear Manach  v  5. An Cabhán
                                          (c) 6. Dún na nGall v 7. Aontroim
                                          (d) 8. An Dún v 9. Tír Eoghain
                                          (e) 3. Muineachán v  (a) Doíre / Ard Mhacha

23rd March: Semi Finals: (b) v (c); (d) v(e):                                                                                                                                 
30th March     Final: (Replay 6th April)

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on October 12, 2010, 03:56:19 PM
u21s havent a bad draw, at least they arent on the same as tyrone.. they should beat fermanagh in the first game not sure what donegal will be like next year in the u21s..
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on October 12, 2010, 06:24:33 PM
That's a brilliant draw for the U-21s.. You'd be hopeful that they would beat Fermanagh and then get get revenge against Donegal (assuming they beat Antrim) who won't have Murphy to torment us this time. Get to the final and anything can happen on the day.. Then again the Seniors had this exact draw in 2009 and it did them no good..

Are Andrews & Hyland over the team this year or what's the story?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dougal on October 12, 2010, 06:34:41 PM
Quote from: PhilsJemmysField on October 11, 2010, 11:40:03 AM
Anybody at any of the U21 games at the Weekend. Saw St Killians beat St Finbarrs by a point. St Finbars had a young lad at the middle of the field that took Eugene Keating to the cleaners. But Killians had a wee bit more class in the forward area. Conor Smith is a class act if only you get a couple of stone lighter.

Drumalee good value for the Win, thought Raymond was his usually pinicky self. Brennan place kicking from the ground was excellent just would'nt be sure about this idea that he kicks every free and line ball in the ground.

i was at the kingscourt erne gaels game and our own one.bud had a good game scored some classy points leddy and mooney were at midfield a both were quite good.wasnt that impressed with smith for kingscourt this time around.kingscourts FF was good aswel,bronco i think they called him.barry tully had lots of possession and did well enough.aaron brown came on for kingscourt which i thought was strange,last i heard u16 werent allowed play u21's.

in our own game P morris was fairly good,thought shane murphy had a great 2nd half,tomas reilly had a very poor game.oisin o connell had a good game as did the FF.wasnt impressed with fergal flanagan after all the good things i heard about him all year.alot of play went through givney but he never held on to it for very long.

is terry over the u21's again this year as he was at both matches i was at,at the weekend?quite a favourable draw for the u21s this year aswel.

anyone see the belturbet ballinagh game on sunday?i heard butsy had a great game on bud,quite surprised if thats true.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on October 12, 2010, 08:03:13 PM
Is Erne Gaels Belturbet and Drumlane? I wonder how the Belturbet lads feel about the amalgamation.. They have been quite vocal in the past about losing out on Minor and U21 finals to amalgamated teams..
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dougal on October 12, 2010, 08:10:10 PM
no it's belturbet redhills and butlersbridge.if i remember right this would be almost the same belturbet team that lost to parnells and dernacrieve in league and championship final(think it was the year before this team,but almost all the same players).they really werent happy about that alright,didnt know it was that well known though.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on October 12, 2010, 08:33:36 PM
Yeah that'd be the team. Well beaten by Dernacrieve in and Parnells. Dernacrieve and Parnells were two outstanding teams at that time though.. That was 2006.. Yes and they lost to Ramor Munterconnaht amalgamation in the U21 final. They still got to play in Ulster but were hammered by Crosmaglen..
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on October 12, 2010, 09:35:51 PM
surely belturbet would have been good enough to go their own for the u21s.. I think its basically the same team as last year bar 3 i think enda henry damian reilly and peter shannon.. they have quality players like bud fitz,teevan,klushe,niall reilly,connor vaughan,daryl dolan  so dont see why they joined with two other clubs.. they are playin corglass gaels next in the championshp and that shoudl be a interesting game,thats lacken-crosserlough..
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dougal on October 12, 2010, 10:32:45 PM
henry is still u21.reilly and shannon are the only two that were any addition that i can think of.i heard yous have very few coming to training?dunne minagh and kluche added into that u21 team and i cant see anyone bar the gaels putting it up to them.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on October 12, 2010, 11:47:19 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on October 12, 2010, 09:35:51 PM
surely belturbet would have been good enough to go their own for the u21s.. I think its basically the same team as last year bar 3 i think enda henry damian reilly and peter shannon.. they have quality players like bud fitz,teevan,klushe,niall reilly,connor vaughan,daryl dolan  so dont see why they joined with two other clubs.. they are playin corglass gaels next in the championshp and that shoudl be a interesting game,thats lacken-crosserlough..

I'd imagine that's because they have fielded a team on their own for the past few years and had no results, they probably got sick of losing out to amalgamated teams..
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dougal on October 13, 2010, 07:56:12 AM
Quote from: Westside on October 12, 2010, 11:47:19 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on October 12, 2010, 09:35:51 PM
surely belturbet would have been good enough to go their own for the u21s.. I think its basically the same team as last year bar 3 i think enda henry damian reilly and peter shannon.. they have quality players like bud fitz,teevan,klushe,niall reilly,connor vaughan,daryl dolan  so dont see why they joined with two other clubs.. they are playin corglass gaels next in the championshp and that shoudl be a interesting game,thats lacken-crosserlough..

I'd imagine that's because they have fielded a team on their own for the past few years and had no results, they probably got sick of losing out to amalgamated teams..

if you cant beat them join them.


morris was asked if he was interested in the minors,and he's not,he looks to be managing a new club next year,although not confirmed 100%.tony brady is the only name ive heard linked to the minor job so far.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on October 13, 2010, 11:44:04 AM
westside belturbet beat erne gaels last year in the simiis which was redhills bridge so they did beat a amalgamated team..and they could have beaten ramor in the final aswell if they took there chances
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on October 13, 2010, 02:08:12 PM
I wasn't saying they have been unable to beat amalgamated teams but as said above they have lost out in a final (Minor league and championships and 1 or possibly 2 U21 Championship) to amalgamated teams. A fair feat to reach those finals on their own. But after those losses in the final perhaps they felt they were fighting a losing battle taking on U21 on their own. I know a few of the Belturbet lads and I'd like to see them getting their hands on a some silverware..
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanforever on October 13, 2010, 09:38:09 PM
dougal what game were you at if you say peter morris was good and flanagan wasnt?? i was at it aswell and flanagan won the majority of the balls that were played to morris. the only thing morris seemed to be good at was moaning at the ref
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dougal on October 13, 2010, 09:48:17 PM
i thought he had a good enough game,was scoring points when nobody else was doing much.flanagan wasnt bad,just wasnt as good as i was expecting him to be.who was the FF?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: whats my name on October 13, 2010, 11:35:11 PM
think paul lukie was the full forward for castlerahan/mountnugent he was on the county minors this year had a good game great work rate. i thought flanagan had a solid game to be honest interesting to see how he will do against the gaels full forward line
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: UGAAWA on October 13, 2010, 11:55:56 PM
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There is plenty to celebrate this year with Down's run to the All-Ireland SFC final, Tyrone lifting the minor title, Antrim's hurlers regaining their place amongst the sport's big guns, Armagh's rise up the hurling ranks, St Galls' march to All Ireland glory, the ladies of Tyrone and Donegal on the All Ireland stage, Paul Brady continuing to set the world handball benchmark and the Saffron camógs' All Ireland among the Ulster success stories.

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Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on October 14, 2010, 02:16:18 PM
Has there been any more trials with the county panel,and what players are they looking at?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on October 14, 2010, 06:38:24 PM
Quote from: Dougal on October 13, 2010, 07:56:12 AM
Quote from: Westside on October 12, 2010, 11:47:19 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on October 12, 2010, 09:35:51 PM
surely belturbet would have been good enough to go their own for the u21s.. I think its basically the same team as last year bar 3 i think enda henry damian reilly and peter shannon.. they have quality players like bud fitz,teevan,klushe,niall reilly,connor vaughan,daryl dolan  so dont see why they joined with two other clubs.. they are playin corglass gaels next in the championshp and that shoudl be a interesting game,thats lacken-crosserlough..

I'd imagine that's because they have fielded a team on their own for the past few years and had no results, they probably got sick of losing out to amalgamated teams..

if you cant beat them join them.


morris was asked if he was interested in the minors,and he's not,he looks to be managing a new club next year,although not confirmed 100%.tony brady is the only name ive heard linked to the minor job so far.

This is probably the most important job in Cavan football at d moment and if ya heard what was going on as regards the Cavan Minor job you'd be shocked. Some things never change in this county.
There are 4 names in for the job. Closing date was last week so I believe.

The Under 21s should have a good set-up though.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dougal on October 14, 2010, 07:42:22 PM
Quote from: boojangles on October 14, 2010, 06:38:24 PM
Quote from: Dougal on October 13, 2010, 07:56:12 AM
Quote from: Westside on October 12, 2010, 11:47:19 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on October 12, 2010, 09:35:51 PM
surely belturbet would have been good enough to go their own for the u21s.. I think its basically the same team as last year bar 3 i think enda henry damian reilly and peter shannon.. they have quality players like bud fitz,teevan,klushe,niall reilly,connor vaughan,daryl dolan  so dont see why they joined with two other clubs.. they are playin corglass gaels next in the championshp and that shoudl be a interesting game,thats lacken-crosserlough..

I'd imagine that's because they have fielded a team on their own for the past few years and had no results, they probably got sick of losing out to amalgamated teams..

if you cant beat them join them.


morris was asked if he was interested in the minors,and he's not,he looks to be managing a new club next year,although not confirmed 100%.tony brady is the only name ive heard linked to the minor job so far.

This is probably the most important job in Cavan football at d moment and if ya heard what was going on as regards the Cavan Minor job you'd be shocked. Some things never change in this county.
There are 4 names in for the job. Closing date was last week so I believe.

The Under 21s should have a good set-up though.

any chance of ya firing a PM my way.



rodney,trails last nite and the wed nite before that aswel,was possibly some over the weekend aswel.also heard that their was a meeting between the new management and last years panel and only 17 showed up.that could of been during the week when people were at colege etc etc.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on October 14, 2010, 08:28:09 PM
pm my way too boojangles if you don't mind.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on October 14, 2010, 08:39:59 PM
Quote from: Lawrence of Knockbride on October 14, 2010, 08:28:09 PM
pm my way too boojangles if you don't mind.

Copy and paste me a pm too pls
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on October 14, 2010, 10:38:31 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on October 14, 2010, 08:39:59 PM
Quote from: Lawrence of Knockbride on October 14, 2010, 08:28:09 PM
pm my way too boojangles if you don't mind.

Copy and paste me a pm too pls

Don;t want to be the only one left out... if anyone wants to let me know, I'd appreciate it
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on October 15, 2010, 12:27:45 AM
Leave me out of the PM's Booj like a good man, I'm too feckin old for all this and I'm sure it's the same old story anyway, with only the names changed. Congratulations on what looked like a fairly convincing win by the way
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: PhilsJemmysField on October 15, 2010, 08:41:53 AM
what time game in Kingscourt on Sunday
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up-again on October 15, 2010, 03:35:35 PM
Dont leave me out BooJ. Maith an fear.


Kingscourt are playing at half 3 in Kingscourt.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on October 15, 2010, 09:27:27 PM
Best of luck to Kingscourt on Sunday.  Start the revival of CavanFootball please.

Best of Luck to Drumalee and Swad Sunday week in their respective championships.  Should be a good double header in Breffni!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Swadman on October 16, 2010, 12:59:14 PM
Thanks DF. We had a good dress rehearsal last night under lights in the park. League and Championship double for the 1st time in the club's history. Chuffed, but the focus is on Ulster now. I think they are capable of giving it a good rattle this time.
Have to feel a little sorry for the munchies, 2 finals this year, no cups and missed promotion by one place, sickner.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dougal on October 16, 2010, 01:48:48 PM
both games in breff next week,thats great news.hope to get up to the game tomorrow.both teams are winning their first title in a row so that makes it a bit harder to call.i saw in the celt kingscourt played dromintee in a challenge,dont think it said if they won or not,anyone know?

swad have a spine to their team that alot of intermediate clubs would do anything to have,so they should be fit to give it a good rattle.who do drumalee and swad play anyway?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on October 16, 2010, 01:55:39 PM
What was the final score last night Swadman? I heard you beat them out the gate?

Swad should give Ulster a serious run. I can't imagine any other Junior team having the same amount of talented individuals at their disposal.. If they can keep 15 players on the pitch and concentrate on the football they could go far.

Kingscourt got hammered against the Armagh team from what I heard Dougal? Could be wrong though..
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up-again on October 16, 2010, 02:08:41 PM
I think Kingscourt lost by 7 or so but were missing a few starting players so I wouldn't be reading into it too much.

I think they have every chance of getting the win tomorrow once they carry the same kind of attitude which they had in the county final in. Sometimes when a team wins a county final for the first time in a long time they think that is their job their job done. Anyway time will tell.

Swad also have a serious chance. The three Cunninghams, Gearoid, Chriss Curran and Robbie Prior would be welcomed by any club in Cavan.

Can anyone clarify who is going for the minor job? I heard Niall Lynch, Ciaran Brady and Bernard Morris. Then again, that might be completely wrong. Any clarification would be greatly appreciated. Being Dublin based I don't get as much gossip as I used too  ::)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on October 16, 2010, 07:13:28 PM
Corglass gaels beat erne gaels by 7pts 1-14 to 10 pts today.. so much for erne gaels galacticos team,they were poor and corglass could have won by a lot more.. bud was good in the first half but was quiet in the second half packie leddy was probaly the pick for erne gaels.. corglass looked a better team from 1-15 better workrate,and clinical fowards like barry mckiernan and stephen brady who both had fantastic games.. :)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dougal on October 16, 2010, 09:01:44 PM
corglass played very well,didnt look like an amalgamation,which erne gaels did.jack brady was very good.both mckiernans were good aswel,barry even won a bit of ball when he moved to the back at the end.on paper erne gaels are the better team,but corglass gelled far better.i heard the gaels won a tight game,anyone at it?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanforever on October 16, 2010, 10:19:43 PM
yes dougal the gaels won by 6 in the end 2-8 to 2-2. was a tight game up untill about 8 minutes to go when the gaels scored 1-3 in that space. castlerahan mountnugent ran out of steam and the gaels fitness showed. they will be hard stopped
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: whats my name on October 16, 2010, 10:37:49 PM
castlerahan/mtnugent game was a good tight hard hitting game was good up until the last 5 to 10 Min's they got the goal and it knocked the steam out of castlerahan/mtnugent. from what I've seen the Gaels are beatable few weak links in the team especially their keeper.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Terry Coyle on October 18, 2010, 11:30:22 AM
Was at our U21 game Saturday. Jesus we made hard work of it. We should have been out of sight by half time but kept them in it by missing a lot of chances. I thought that if they had have left Givney in full foward they could have taken it, anytime he came to midfield we got out important scores. But jesus he is a joy to watch, great hands, great skill and a big man. I thought Leddy, Kev Meehan and Niall Gurhy were very good for us, all backs goes to show how our forwards did. We have to improve but think we will. Was some big men playing for Rahan/MNugent they must like their spuds out there!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: PhilsJemmysField on October 18, 2010, 12:41:35 PM
Ballinagh / Cornafean beat St. Killians by 2 points yesterday. Eugene Keating must have had a sore toe as he didn't start came on for last 10 minutes. Didn't look to be too much wrong with him as far as I could see. Kicked a ball over the bar from the 45. The knocks beat drumlane in the Div 2 league final with Larry apparently getting the ball 5 times and scored 4 times. Some-things will never change.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on October 19, 2010, 04:32:40 PM
Rooney leaving Utd  :o
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BigMac on October 19, 2010, 05:46:07 PM
Rodney, there is a man utd thread in the general discussion section where you can get loads of talk about this. This thread is for Cavan GAA.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: PhilsJemmysField on October 21, 2010, 04:33:23 PM
Any word on Minor Manager after all that undercover stuff ?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on October 21, 2010, 05:56:39 PM
All the scores from the Kingscourt game on Sunday

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Bw4PY1j4Zg
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on October 23, 2010, 02:14:38 PM
Best of luck to Swanlinbar and Drumalee this weekend.  Enjoy it.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on October 23, 2010, 02:15:56 PM
Quote from: Denn Forever on October 23, 2010, 02:14:38 PM
Best of luck to Swanlinbar and Drumalee this weekend.  Enjoy it.

Is that a double header or what's the story?  Best of luck to both teams
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on October 23, 2010, 02:19:07 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on October 19, 2010, 04:32:40 PM
Rooney leaving Utd  :o

No hes not and the only thing that relates to this thread is that he did the dirty on a girl of Cavan descent.  Kai to play for Cavan in the 2030 AI final.
Quote from: Denn Forever on October 23, 2010, 02:14:38 PM
Best of luck to Swanlinbar and Drumalee this weekend.  Enjoy it.

I heard its a double header in Breffni.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on October 23, 2010, 02:20:11 PM
Kingscourt beat Ballinagh last night in Breffni by 6 in the league semi final 2 - 14 to 2 - 8.

We beat Drumlane well on the 3G pitch in the Under 21s - playing Shannon Gaels in the semi-final on Monday in Ballyconnell.  Ballyhaise playing Drumgoon in the other one in Stradone
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on October 23, 2010, 04:22:25 PM
Quote from: Denn Forever on October 23, 2010, 02:14:38 PM
Best of luck to Swanlinbar and Drumalee this weekend.  Enjoy it.

Next Sunday, the 31st DennForever. Double header in Breifni. Thanks very much for the good wishes.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up-again on October 24, 2010, 01:34:06 AM
Seen the list of nominees for the minor job and just wouldn't be inspired at all. James Lovett, John Brady (Ramor), Gary Donohoe, Niall Lynch and Dessie Reilly (Ballyhaise).

I think Pete McGrath taking the Down Minor job blows this list out of the water.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up-again on October 24, 2010, 01:32:57 PM
I just realised Knockbride won the Division Two league yet they don't get promoted..What the f*ck is the point in that? What a retarded system.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on October 24, 2010, 03:11:46 PM
I have a revolutionary idea. The team that finishes top of the league wins the league. The team that comes 2nd wins promotion. The rest must try again next year. Mad idea isn't it.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up-again on October 24, 2010, 03:43:00 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on October 24, 2010, 03:11:46 PM
I have a revolutionary idea. The team that finishes top of the league wins the league. The team that comes 2nd wins promotion. The rest must try again next year. Mad idea isn't it.

Myles you are a genius. How did you manage to come up with such a brilliant and fair system?

I just don't understand league football in GAA whatsoever.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on October 24, 2010, 04:58:26 PM
Quote from: put-it-up-again on October 24, 2010, 03:43:00 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on October 24, 2010, 03:11:46 PM
I have a revolutionary idea. The team that finishes top of the league wins the league. The team that comes 2nd wins promotion. The rest must try again next year. Mad idea isn't it.

Myles you are a genius. How did you manage to come up with such a brilliant and fair system?

I just don't understand league football in GAA whatsoever.

Just one of those Eureka moments. I fell and hit me head and then **bang** this incredible idea flashed before me. I'm thinking of patenting it.

Any word on the games today in the Ulster club?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up-again on October 25, 2010, 05:44:30 PM
Ballinagh bet the Gaels in the u21's
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dougal on October 25, 2010, 07:24:09 PM
Quote from: put-it-up-again on October 25, 2010, 05:44:30 PM
Ballinagh bet the Gaels in the u21's

didnt see that one coming.do the gaels now go on to represent us in ulster?after they beat gowna they were the only team that wasnt an amalgamation.not that ballinagh cornafean is much of an amalgamation,i think barry doyle is the only one on the team from cornafean.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on October 26, 2010, 12:20:50 PM
No dougal there is 4 lads from cornafean on that team..gerry sheridan is injured so it would be 5.. that was a great win for ballinagh/cornafean.. for all the gaels underage talent they havent won an u21 title in 6 years which is amazing..its been a while since they even made an u21 final.. :o
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dougal on October 26, 2010, 01:25:41 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on October 26, 2010, 12:20:50 PM
No dougal there is 4 lads from cornafean on that team..gerry sheridan is injured so it would be 5.. that was a great win for ballinagh/cornafean.. for all the gaels underage talent they havent won an u21 title in 6 years which is amazing..its been a while since they even made an u21 final.. :o

well doyle was the only one who played the first game i think.i heard doyle,reilly,caffrey were all playing yesterday,fergus reilly might of been playing aswel.they made the final in 08?beat belturbet in the semi?8 or 9 of the gaels minor winning teams have only managed to go on and win 3 u21 titles.what was the gaels team yesterday?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on October 26, 2010, 01:47:17 PM
yeah they were playin in the first game as well against cucus kkere.. i wasnt at the game yesterday myself.. i doubt niall murray was playin he got a hard knock aginst lacken on sunday and went off injured. I wonder if kingscourt are capable of beating cavan gaels in two finals,,the gaels looked good in spells but were there for the taking as lacken hit some bad wides. Enda king was very good,id definetly have him on the county panel next season. pauric smith could be worth a look aswell,decent half back,very solid player..
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Ollie on October 26, 2010, 04:15:21 PM
Was at the Gaels v Ballinagh/Cornafean games yesterday. Disappointing display from the Gaels. Ballinagh got off to a good start with a goal and a point but the Gaels came back and finished the first half strong. They were unlucky not to get a goal in the first half as they hit the crossbar once and also had a shoot saved by the keeper. The 2nd half Ballinagh/Cornafean dominated. They won a lot of ball at midfield and they took there chances in front of goal which the Gaels failed to do. Gaels failed to get a grip on the game in the 2nd hald and Ballinagh/cornafean capitalised on it. Have to single out Niall McDermott from Ballinagh. Very good at midfield scored some great frees as well. Would like to see him get a run out with the County in the league next year. As for our lads, McClarey and Maloney looked sharp in the first half but faded in the 2nd. Niall Gurhy was solid throughout the game. Can't understand why the Gaels cant perform well in the latter stages of the u21 championship in recent years. Puzzles me!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
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Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on October 28, 2010, 11:45:58 PM
Best of luck to Swanlinbar and Drumalee this weekend..

I got it right didn't I ???
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on October 30, 2010, 11:30:14 AM
Good luck to both teams in action this weekend. It would be great to see both doing well.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dougal on October 31, 2010, 12:43:16 PM
best of luck to swad and drumalee today.was intending on going but,only in the door from last night so dont think ill be going anywhere today.hopefully anyone at the game will let me know how it goes when they get back from it.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up-again on October 31, 2010, 12:45:45 PM
Can someone let me know how the games go? Hungover in Dublin after that thrilling International Rules  ;D

Obviously Ireland were never going to win with no Cavan lads on the panel!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Blue06 on October 31, 2010, 04:31:43 PM
Results from Breffni today

Junior  Swanlinbar 4.16  Ardmore 2.06

Intermediate derrylaughan 2.15 drumalee 0.16  AET
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on October 31, 2010, 10:37:20 PM
Swad were immense today. For 40 minutes of the game they owned the ball, Gearoid and Mick Curran won everything at midfield while Mark Cunningham and Robbie Prior picked off points inside. The odd time the ball made it to the Ardmore forwards John Cunningham sorted it out. Ardmore did give them a good rattling in the second half and exposed a few flaws in defence but the game realistically was over after 20 minutes and even the two goals never brought Ardmore close. The Derry side didn't look great though and Swad will have much bigger tests to come if they want to succeed in Ulster.

Felt sorry for Drumalee they let that game slip through their fingers. They could do no wrong in the first half. Didn't kick one wide and went in a few points up at the break. Brennan was on fire. Second half the Tyrone side defended very well and if it wasn't for the Drumalee goalie coming for a ball he had no right to come for (resulting in a penalty) they could have won the game. Tyrone side went ahead going into injury time and Brennan kicked a brilliant 45 under pressure to level it. Then Darragh Gaffney kicked a wide from a scoreable position in the final second. He had a poor day from open play.. Extra time the goal just put the game beyond Drumalee but they fought bravely to the end. Number 11 and 12 and 17 were good for Drumalee (sorry not familiar with the players)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on November 01, 2010, 11:28:46 AM
well done Swadman aqnd hard luck Boojangles.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Swadman on November 01, 2010, 09:06:30 PM
Thanks D.F.   It was easier than any of us could have imagined, it will be the last easy game we have for a long while. Westside is right. The Down champs, Drumaness, will be a lot stronger and "cuter". nice to get to a semi though. Pity we are the last Cavan representitive. Tough luck Boo. AET is a horrible way to go out.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: whats my name on November 05, 2010, 06:46:59 PM
i hear james reilly is back in with the seniors hopefully he'll stick at it we need him badly
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Swadman on November 06, 2010, 11:58:11 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on November 03, 2010, 01:54:34 PM
Why was mark cunningham not on the county u21s this year swadman. He has been really for swad the last while and will probaly get run with the county seniors on his current form..he might not make the county senior panel but he is worth a look at.
Mark has a great natural talent but his temperament is playing catch-up. He had a falling out with the u-21 management last year when they failed to put him on in some game or other. He doesn't lack confidence in his own ability but in fairness he should have been given a run. He has, in my opinion, matured in his behavior this year and as a result has had his best year with us. I don't know if he is yet strong enough, physically, for IC level. I will look forward to seeing him play against better defenders in Div2 next year, then ask me.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on November 07, 2010, 06:25:16 PM
Gaels beat Kingscourt in the league final replay. 0-12 to 1-5 I think was the score.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on November 07, 2010, 06:44:14 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on November 07, 2010, 06:25:16 PM
Gaels beat Kingscourt in the league final replay. 0-12 to 1-5 I think was the score.

Bit of fisticuffs after I heard??

Ballyhaise walked the U-21 Div 2 final. 3-18 to 0-4 against Cootehill.

Ramor walked the U-21 Div 1 final 1- 16 to 0-4 I think. Some fine footballers on the Ramor team. Very impressed with Ado Cole. The lad has an abundance of talent and makes everything look so easy.He reminds me of Gerald Pierson. If he could get some fire in his belly there aren't too many better forwards in Cavan. I hope Val and Terry have this lad in their plans.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Breffni_Yank on November 07, 2010, 10:51:44 PM
I took the opportunity to head down to the u21's myself. Complete mismatches in both games and I think that was both Ramors and Ballyhaise second year on the trot to win at that level so they are doing something right to keep the young lads interested. Fair play.

Cole just baffles me. He seems to have great natural talent on the field but when playin with Cavan its like he couldn't be bothered working that bit harder to get the ball. Personally, I think he just fancies a kick about on a Sunday so don't see him ever making it with Cavan.

Speaking of Pearson, I hear he is back training with Cavan as are a few Gaels lads!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: whats my name on November 07, 2010, 11:41:52 PM
yea there are loads of old heads back in training gaynor,fannin,James Reilly,pierson,podge great to see. At least the management are leaving no stone unturned this year
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on November 08, 2010, 04:41:36 AM
Gaynor? Really? I'm very surprised to hear that, my opinion being based on non-football matters. Has the lad turned a corner? Great for Cavan if so.

Fair play to Terry and Val they've coaxed back a few decent players by the sounds of it anyway.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on November 08, 2010, 11:04:50 AM
yeah i heard gaynor was back aswell..he has had lots of headlines the last few years on/off the field but he is a quality footballer if he plays footballl and stops being a headcase gettin sent off.. that was ramors third u21 title in a row. i would like to see james mccenroe get  arun with the county panel,he is strong as  an oxe,be an option for midfield centre back
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dougal on November 08, 2010, 01:45:48 PM
morris is over crosserlough next year,gaffney looks set to come back to them aswell,they will be very hard stopped next year.

heard ado cole had fingers heavily strapped and was limping on saturday,but was unstoppable yesterday.ive yet to see him have an unbelievable game,but by the sounds of things hes well capable of it.heard butsy and mcdermott were very poor yesterday.

any word on minor or u21 managers?great to see the amount of players val and terry are getting in.

has ballyhaiseman given up on the football altogether?dont think hes been on since they went out of the champ.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dougal on November 08, 2010, 02:01:46 PM
oh,ive also heard that forde had planned for yesterdays game to be his last for the gaels,and was planning to return to shannon gaels for a year or two to finnish out his career,but shannon gales wont take him back.also heard nic walsh is moving to a club in dublin now that he got that job in croke park.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Terry Coyle on November 08, 2010, 02:29:52 PM
Quote from: Dougal on November 08, 2010, 02:01:46 PM
oh,ive also heard that forde had planned for yesterdays game to be his last for the gaels,and was planning to return to shannon gaels for a year or two to finnish out his career,but shannon gales wont take him back.also heard nic walsh is moving to a club in dublin now that he got that job in croke park.

Dont believe everything you hear Dougal.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dougal on November 08, 2010, 02:43:44 PM
on both accounts?the lad that told me normally isnt far off the mark,but i dont believe things til ive heard the same from a few different sources. ;)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Terry Coyle on November 08, 2010, 03:01:56 PM
Well I have heard nothing like that about either - whether Fordie stays on is another thing but going back to Shannon Gaels is way off the mark I reckon. He just had another kid and I would say his priorities will be at home as opposed to travelling for an hour to get to Blacklion for training. And Walsh will not be transferring. Have to laugh the way people always add 2 and 2 and get 5.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: PhilsJemmysField on November 08, 2010, 03:48:56 PM
Good to see how a bit of a row gets the posters going

Also big win for Arva at the weekend as well

Any news on Minor Manager
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on November 10, 2010, 08:43:37 PM
Is dere gaels lads doing any of this training for county?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: drici on November 12, 2010, 10:10:49 PM
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Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up-again on November 12, 2010, 11:02:28 PM
Quote from: hardstation on November 12, 2010, 10:15:55 PM
What's yer woman doing there?

A protective mother perhaps?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up-again on November 12, 2010, 11:10:23 PM
Quote from: hardstation on November 12, 2010, 11:06:12 PM
We can't have lunatics like that coming on to the pitch during skirmishes. She'd do well to leave the field with her beret on her head.

I honestly dunno how she got there. What the hell is a random woman doing in between 20 odd lads rowing. A good shoulder woulda put her back in her box.

Actually more importantly, what's she doing out of the kitchen?  ;D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Swadman on November 13, 2010, 12:47:19 PM
Is that the "BROWN (bomber) JACKET" loo-la that everyone is talking about ?  I thought 'angry mother syndrome' only applied at under 12  matches.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dougal on November 13, 2010, 05:04:34 PM
i presume the brown bomber jacket was sean reilly.
best of luck tomorrow swadman,i intend on going up,but that very much depends on how bad the hangover is.why is it so early?i thought it might be because theres a second match after,but it seems not.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on November 13, 2010, 05:18:41 PM
Best of Luck to Swad tomorrow! Keep the flag flying.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on November 14, 2010, 01:31:29 PM
Halftime Swad up by 5, 9 points to 4. Ref not doing Swad any favours.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on November 14, 2010, 02:33:36 PM
Swad 0-16 Glasdrumman 0-07

Well done, into the Ulster Final now, great achievement.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on November 14, 2010, 08:05:04 PM
Congrats to Swad - when is the final?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dougal on November 14, 2010, 11:30:14 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on November 14, 2010, 08:05:04 PM
Congrats to Swad - when is the final?

it's on the 28th.who are they playing?i know corduff were in the other semi.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on November 14, 2010, 11:36:12 PM
Well done Swad - aye playing Corduff in the final
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Swadman on November 16, 2010, 10:07:28 PM
Ulster Club Junior Final confirmed for Sun 28th in Clones at 12:15pm
Yes, 12:15 !!!   Thanks for all the well wishes, lads. They will give it a good rattle allright.
It will be their toughest test against a physically strong Corduff but I'm quietly confident and will be a quivering wreck next Sunday at 12:14
Heres hoping  ;)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dougal on November 16, 2010, 10:14:07 PM
Quote from: Swadman on November 16, 2010, 10:07:28 PM
Ulster Club Junior Final confirmed for Sun 28th in Clones at 12:15pm
Yes, 12:15 !!!   Thanks for all the well wishes, lads. They will give it a good rattle allright.
It will be their toughest test against a physically strong Corduff but I'm quietly confident and will be a quivering wreck next Sunday at 12:14
Heres hoping  ;)

any word on a second match?will they play the intermediate final in clones aswel?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on November 16, 2010, 10:48:33 PM
Quote from: Swadman on November 16, 2010, 10:07:28 PM
Ulster Club Junior Final confirmed for Sun 28th in Clones at 12:15pm
Yes, 12:15 !!!   Thanks for all the well wishes, lads. They will give it a good rattle allright.
It will be their toughest test against a physically strong Corduff but I'm quietly confident and will be a quivering wreck next Sunday at 12:14
Heres hoping  ;)

il definetly be heading to that,Best of luck swadman.
Your lads will be hard beaten in the intermediate next year aslong as you dont lose any key players.
An outrageously strong team for junior level.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dougal on November 18, 2010, 01:21:38 PM
i see one of our regular posters got on the bref blue team of the year.congrats
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BigMac on November 18, 2010, 02:10:13 PM
You just got in before me Dougal! Heres the team anyway.

1.Darren murphy (Drumlane)
2.Cathal Collins (Cavan Geals)
3.Thomas Wakley (Kingscourt)
4.Neil NcCann (Drumlane)
5.Alan Clarke (Kingscourt)
6.Eoin McGuigan (Belturbet)
7.Gearoid Mc Kiernan (Swanlinbar)
8.David Givney (Mountnugent)
9.Mickey Brennan (Drumalee)
10.Eamon O Reilly (Shannon Gaels)
11.Kevin Donahoe (Drumalee)
12.Barry Reilly (Kingscourt)
13.Robbie Prior (Swanlinbar)
14.Philip Brady (Mullahoran)
15.Seanie Johnston (Cavan Gaels)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on November 18, 2010, 07:44:25 PM
Hard to argue with many of those except maybe squeezing Gearoid in at wing back.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on November 19, 2010, 11:18:56 PM
I hear Corduff are favourites going into the final? Big physical team according to reports. Mark Cunningham and Robbie Prior won't win ball as easy as they have been doing. Swad will need to keep their focus on playing football and not be drawn into a dogfight.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up-again on November 20, 2010, 02:05:46 AM
i got a fairly detailed story today on what has been going on with the minor job application process. Absolutely farsical..anyway if what im told is true the job is gary donohoes and dermot mccabe's.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on November 20, 2010, 09:47:28 AM
Quote from: Westside on November 19, 2010, 11:18:56 PM
I hear Corduff are favourites going into the final? Big physical team according to reports. Mark Cunningham and Robbie Prior won't win ball as easy as they have been doing. Swad will need to keep their focus on playing football and not be drawn into a dogfight.

well with Gearoid McKiernan,John Cunningham,Michael Curran out around the centre field area,i would be fairly confident,Swad would win enough ball to give those two a decent supply.
Id be especially delighted for Robbie Prior if he won an Ulster title,the lad has been one of the best forwards in all of Cavan football for the last decade.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on November 20, 2010, 10:34:47 AM
Quote from: put-it-up-again on November 20, 2010, 02:05:46 AM
i got a fairly detailed story today on what has been going on with the minor job application process. Absolutely farsical..anyway if what im told is true the job is gary donohoes and dermot mccabe's.

Ah go on and send an exile a pm on it!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up-again on November 20, 2010, 11:10:01 AM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on November 20, 2010, 10:34:47 AM
Quote from: put-it-up-again on November 20, 2010, 02:05:46 AM
i got a fairly detailed story today on what has been going on with the minor job application process. Absolutely farsical..anyway if what im told is true the job is gary donohoes and dermot mccabe's.

Ah go on and send an exile a pm on it!

Ah be god, where to start! On the phone at the minute but will send it on later from the comfort of a real keyboard!


Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on November 20, 2010, 01:45:07 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on November 20, 2010, 09:47:28 AM
Quote from: Westside on November 19, 2010, 11:18:56 PM
I hear Corduff are favourites going into the final? Big physical team according to reports. Mark Cunningham and Robbie Prior won't win ball as easy as they have been doing. Swad will need to keep their focus on playing football and not be drawn into a dogfight.

well with Gearoid McKiernan,John Cunningham,Michael Curran out around the centre field area,i would be fairly confident,Swad would win enough ball to give those two a decent supply.
Id be especially delighted for Robbie Prior if he won an Ulster title,the lad has been one of the best forwards in all of Cavan football for the last decade.

True, Gearoid has been playing well and Michael Curran is a great talent, probably a bit of an unsung hero! Robbie Prior deserves an Ulster medal. He's Swad's spiritual leader, keeps the rest on their toes and they seem to respect him. He has the temperament that some of the rest of the squad have been missing in recent years. Anyways where would be doing odds on this wouldn't mind sticking a few quid on Swad if Corduff are favourites?

Is the Minor thing still going on!? Send me on a copy of what you've heard PIUA if you would be so kind!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dougal on November 20, 2010, 01:52:22 PM
Quote from: put-it-up-again on November 20, 2010, 11:10:01 AM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on November 20, 2010, 10:34:47 AM
Quote from: put-it-up-again on November 20, 2010, 02:05:46 AM
i got a fairly detailed story today on what has been going on with the minor job application process. Absolutely farsical..anyway if what im told is true the job is gary donohoes and dermot mccabe's.

Ah go on and send an exile a pm on it!

Ah be god, where to start! On the phone at the minute but will send it on later from the comfort of a real keyboard!

it's bad when an exile knows more about it than someone at home.fire a pm my way if ya get a chance,only thing ive heard is whats on hogan stand.


id imagine paddy will have odds up for it sometime during the week,il keep a lookout.if they dont put them up by wed,ill get on to them to get odds up.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on November 24, 2010, 03:46:33 PM

From Hoganstand


Both Cavan Gaels and Kingscourt Stars have accepted the individual players' suspensions, which total 88 weeks, handed down to them by the Cavan county board's Competitions Control Committee on Monday night.

The bans were issued for matters arising out of the melee towards the end of the ACFL Division One final replay played between both teams at the New Inns grounds in Lavey on November 4 last.

The most severe suspension handed down was to Cavan Gaels midfielder Sean Reilly, who will be out of action for the entire 2011 season after being hit with a 48-week ban for his part in the melee.

Defender Marc Leddy has also received an eight-week suspension, while Daniel Graham, Micheál Lyng and Niall Gurhy were all handed four-week bans.

Kingscourt's suspensions will see team captain Alan Clarke, Gavin Sheenan, Patrick Farrelly and Under 21 ace Barry Reilly all miss the first four weeks of the 2011 league campaign.

Both clubs have also been fined an undisclosed sum, which they are set to appeal to the Hearings Committee, chaired by former Ulster Council President Miceál Grennan.




Sean Reily had been asked into the provisional county panel aswell,so thats one midfield option in 2011 gone already!!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on November 24, 2010, 04:24:01 PM
f**king hell. What did Reilly do? That's one potential Gael of the county for the year. That kind of punishment is usually reserved for assulting an official isn't it?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on November 24, 2010, 05:40:13 PM
It's going to an appeal I think isn't it? This isn't going to do anything to help get the County Panel sorted out... Hopefully it will be shortened on appeal..
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Ollie on November 24, 2010, 06:25:40 PM
Sean Reilly has his discipline problems but he was viable option for midfield for the county seniors in the coming year. Cannot understand the county boards wisdom in suspending him for the the whole of next season. We need every potential county player available next year if we are serious about building a team for the future. In fact I cant understand why the County Board even bothered to impose 4 or 8 week suspensions on any players at this time of year seeing as there wont be any competitive football played until next year. Major own goal by the County Board.   
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dougal on November 24, 2010, 06:46:38 PM
Quote from: Ollie on November 24, 2010, 06:25:40 PM
Sean Reilly has his discipline problems but he was viable option for midfield for the county seniors in the coming year. Cannot understand the county boards wisdom in suspending him for the the whole of next season. We need every potential county player available next year if we are serious about building a team for the future. In fact I cant understand why the County Board even bothered to impose 4 or 8 week suspensions on any players at this time of year seeing as there wont be any competitive football played until next year. Major own goal by the County Board.

if he deserved a 48 week ban,well thats what he should get,regardless of how good he is.hes a very good player and could well of been a good choice for the county,but from what ive seen of him,hes very mouthy,and gets involved in stupid things.the 48 week ban he got a few years ago didnt improve his discipline much,but hopefully this one will.

i think the GAA are talking about bringing in match bans next year (or the year after),so there will be no more of this nonsense of players getting bans when they arent paying.

decided on sun to ask PP for odds on swad,no reply yet.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on November 24, 2010, 10:07:57 PM
I agree with Dougal. I can't believe Ollie you think that the County Board should give a second's thought to whether a boy can contribute to the county when deciding on suspensions. Would you be asking for refs to go easy on them too so that they don't get suspended?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Ollie on November 25, 2010, 02:04:45 AM
Quote from: Lawrence of Knockbride on November 24, 2010, 10:07:57 PM
I agree with Dougal. I can't believe Ollie you think that the County Board should give a second's thought to whether a boy can contribute to the county when deciding on suspensions. Would you be asking for refs to go easy on them too so that they don't get suspended?

Firstly lads 48 weeks suspensions are ridiculous. Unless you seriously injure someone they shouldn't be imposed. I wasn't at the game but from what I was told there was just a bit of a scuffle and the end. In about 20% of club games played in Cavan throughout a whole season a scuffle breaks out. Most of them don't lead to a player receiving a one year ban. The fact that this happened in the League Final and that the Chairman made reference to it in his speech during the presentation is the main reason why it was dealt with so harshly.

Secondly lads I do think the County Board should give a second thought to whether a player can contribute to the county team before suspending him for an entire year. Imagine if Sean Johnson had received a 48 week suspension?? I don't think you'd disagree with me if it where him!!

I know Sean Reilly isn't the most popular man around the county. He was injured for a large part of the championship and missed the semi-final and final but he can really dominate midfield and can also catch a lot of high ball. We have very few options at midfield for the county team in the coming year and we really need all players with potential to be involved so we can try build a team for the future.

Lastly I agree with Dougal that match suspensions would be a much better way of dealing with Indiscipline. Ridiculous that the GAA haven't introduced it yet.         
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on November 25, 2010, 08:41:19 AM
Apart from your last paragraph, which I agree with, you can refer to my previous post. Same for Sean Johnston or ANY player in the county. No point speculating in why he got his ban either. They hardly handed out 4 and 8 week bans and then thought we better hand out a 48 week ban to show we mean business. I agree that most scuffles don't lead to this size of bans, therefore I assume his crime was a lot worse than this.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on November 25, 2010, 10:02:14 AM
I agree with Lawrence.
we are NOT DERRY afterall, we dont let our players run amok and do whatever they want, then quash their bans because they are county players.  :D

I wasnt at the game either, but i think its fair to say Reily must have been accused of something seriously bad,if he got 48 weeks.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BigMac on November 25, 2010, 10:26:17 AM
Ollie, if Sean Johnson ever did something to deserve a 48 week ban then of course he should have to serve it. Are you trying to say if you're a good footballer, and play with one of the top clubs, you can get away with thumping someone, or assaulting an umpire, (or whatever he did), but if your an average club player from a bad junior side then you should serve the ban. That is a ridiculous theory. And if this ban promts some of the gales players to refuse to play for the county, then I say good riddance. They can't be let hold the county board to ransom, just because they have some potential county players. Each player should want to play for the county for the good of cavan football and for their own pride, and not refuse to play because one of their buddies got a ban for something he probably deserved. Just a note on Sean Reilly, I've played against him a few times, and saw him play on numerous occasions going back over about 8 years. He is one of the mouthiest players in the county at the minute, and I would say along with one or two more, has the worst disciplinary record of current players. A good pasting would not go astray on him, hopefully this ban will put him back in his box. I also dont think he is up to the standard of an intercounty mid fielder, he is very tall but I dont think he has enough of the other attributes needed.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Giveitlong on November 25, 2010, 11:32:00 AM
I was at the match. He was a spectator at the game on the small bank opposite the stand side (just as well I'd say). In the crowd, in jeans and jacket. As much togged out as my grandmother was. Apparently he was injured in a previous match.

During the melee he jumped the perimeter fence and joined in the melee with the best (or worst) of them. We just could not believe what we were seeing. He then returned to his spot after his 'contribution' as if nothing had happened and a lot of people around me started shouting at him and I was fairly concerned someone in the crowd might have gone for him and it might have kicked off again. There was a chap recording the game on the same side, so I am sure he got everything. So in that sense I would assume the county board got things fairly correct.

It was a very dangerous moment that could easily have led to other spectators running onto the pitch. And then how long and how bad would things have got? And I took a conscious note of the number of young kids around me at the game...5,6,7 year olds. Would you blame a young parent if they didn't want to bring their kids to a GAA match ever again?

I don't condone any kind of violence, definitely not from players either, but for a spectator to enter the fray is a very dark scenario.

Aside from the issue of a 48 suspension, I think the individual should seriously ask himself should he be taking part in team sports at all.

If you lads are saying he has already had a 48 week ban, and if this is his second one, then pure and simple this individual should find a new sport to take up and probably an individual sport.

And to agree with Ballyhaiseman and others, no matter what he has to offer as a player (And by all accounts he seems to be a useful midfielder), it doesn't matter whether we're talking about Peter Canavan, Kieran McDonald or St Mickey Harte himself. If you do that, you shouldn't be let near a GAA ground, let alone be let on the pitch.

In rugby a few years ago, Trevor Brennan received a lifetime ban (subsequently reduced to 5 years) as a player entering the crowd and attacking a spectator. In my view, if a spectator enters the playing area and attacks one (or more!) player, then, agan in my view, he should be treated no differently.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: whats my name on November 25, 2010, 10:10:36 PM
YES i have to agree that it cant be one rule for some and then a different rule for everyone else if he deserves a 48 week ban he gets one regardless of if he's involved with the county or not.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: whats my name on November 25, 2010, 10:12:47 PM
oh yea on another note best of luck to swad this weekend hope you can get another piece of silverware to add to the trophy cabinet
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Breffni_Yank on November 25, 2010, 11:56:24 PM
At this stage I dont really care about our senior team. All the focus should be going on the u21's and minors because lets be honest here, our current senior crop arent good enough to win Ulster. I hope they improve this year and I think they will but they need an influx of a younger generation to drive them on in about three years.

The u21's seem to have their house in order this year with a impressive management team and from what I gather are back trainin already and having trials but the minor situation I heard is a joke. I'd like to hear the story PIU said he heard and see if it matches mine. Niall Lynch was easily the most qualified man for the job out of the applicants and should have gotten it. He is an excellent trainer and the CB could have found a stronger character to go in with him and help on the management side of things.

I'm not impressed at all with the proposed management of Gary Donohoe and Dermot McCabe. What do they know about managing 18 year olds and dealing with kids. If Dermot thinks he can control a dressing room of young men like he is supposed to have ran the Cavan senior dressing room in his last few years then we may forget about it.

Sometimes I wonder why I don't go back to the states and try to forget about Cavan football.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on November 26, 2010, 04:35:21 PM
Does anyone know who the ex cavan u21 player who is playing with clare next year.. i saw it on hoganstand where they got 4 players,1 from cavan dublin meath and kildare.. iis there anymore nesty smiths in dublin who can improve us? ???
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dougal on November 26, 2010, 06:43:15 PM
paddy power wont offer any odds on the swad game.going to have to lump on cross by the looks of things  ;D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on November 26, 2010, 06:48:14 PM
Quote from: Breffni_Yank on November 25, 2010, 11:56:24 PM

Sometimes I wonder why I don't go back to the states and try to forget about Cavan football.

FFS would ya catch a grip of yourself.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on November 27, 2010, 11:37:31 AM
If you are going tomorrow, wrap up warm.

Best of luck to Swad. tomorrow.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Homer on November 27, 2010, 03:21:37 PM
All the best to Swad. Let's up hope for a chorus of The West's Awake tomorrow.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on November 27, 2010, 03:38:09 PM
Game cancelled tomorrow lads I think.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: giveherlong on November 27, 2010, 03:40:13 PM
Much snow about Mullahoran? Ladies Junior final down for there tommorow
you think it will go ahead?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Swadman on November 27, 2010, 04:12:29 PM
Thanks for all the well wishes but we will have to put the champagne on ice (pardon the expression). Re-fixed for next Sunday again in Clones according to a radio report.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up-again on November 29, 2010, 07:49:32 PM
Any word on how Val is settling in and his new recruits?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up-again on December 02, 2010, 05:27:50 PM
Have we finally found a manager with a bit of sense?

Cavan manager Terry Hyland won't be rushing any young players from the minor grade straight into senior football, he revealed this week.
A number of high profile Cavan underage footballers have been thrown in at the deep end at senior level immediately on graduating from minor ranks over the past decade, but Hyland promised to buck that trend, insisting that players of that age "are not physically developed enough for the modern type of game".
"Fellas will stay with the Under 21s. We may look at players in their final year of that grade [for the senior team]," Hyland told The Anglo-Celt.
The Lacken clubman also stated that he would rather see a return to the old league format of playing three matches before Christmas and four matches after.
Asked about the merits of the ban on collective training, which has drawn considerable criticism recently, Hyland stated that, while the idea behind the banning – protecting young players from burn-out – was a good one, it should possibly be implemented in a more even-handed way.
"I would think that it's more dangerous to have guys playing in the McKenna Cup when they haven't been training together for it, I'm not medically qualified to say that but I would think that there is more chance of a player getting injured in that situation," Hyland said.
"The old league system wasn't bad, fellas were playing football and they had longer to get ready. They also had the chance to go back to their clubs when the National League ended for a few weeks."
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up-again on December 02, 2010, 05:33:49 PM
Haha, I see our county management team have come up with a cunning way to get a look at a few lads! Clever idea if you ask me!

A county selector managing the team and being helped by the one the actual managers!

The Cavan panel will be contacted in the coming days. A planned get-together was canceleld this week due to the adverse weather conditions but the group will train on a number of occasions between now and the match.
"We hope to trawl through the players who have been nominated and any other players and choose a panel in the next few days," said Stephen.


http://www.anglocelt.ie/sport/gaelicfootball/articles/2010/12/01/4001936-neighbours-to-clash-in-intriguing-charity-tie/
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on December 02, 2010, 06:50:35 PM
If this weather keeps up that wont be much fun.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on December 02, 2010, 09:00:37 PM
Quote from: put-it-up-again on December 02, 2010, 05:27:50 PM
Have we finally found a manager with a bit of sense?

Cavan manager Terry Hyland won't be rushing any young players from the minor grade straight into senior football, he revealed this week.
A number of high profile Cavan underage footballers have been thrown in at the deep end at senior level immediately on graduating from minor ranks over the past decade, but Hyland promised to buck that trend, insisting that players of that age "are not physically developed enough for the modern type of game".
"Fellas will stay with the Under 21s. We may look at players in their final year of that grade [for the senior team]," Hyland told The Anglo-Celt.
The Lacken clubman also stated that he would rather see a return to the old league format of playing three matches before Christmas and four matches after.
Asked about the merits of the ban on collective training, which has drawn considerable criticism recently, Hyland stated that, while the idea behind the banning – protecting young players from burn-out – was a good one, it should possibly be implemented in a more even-handed way.
"I would think that it's more dangerous to have guys playing in the McKenna Cup when they haven't been training together for it, I'm not medically qualified to say that but I would think that there is more chance of a player getting injured in that situation," Hyland said.
"The old league system wasn't bad, fellas were playing football and they had longer to get ready. They also had the chance to go back to their clubs when the National League ended for a few weeks."

It seems like a good idea alright therefore I am surprised King had anything to do with it ;)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Swadman on December 03, 2010, 07:55:19 PM
Ulster Final OFF AGAIN. Re-fixed (again) for Sunday 12th, same time, same place.  Amazing displays of willpower shown to stay off the jar till then and I'm just talking about me.!!! 
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Swadman on December 06, 2010, 06:07:48 PM
I see "put it up again" has a Facebook page now,

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Up-Caaavan/141424279219632

What next?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up-again on December 07, 2010, 08:35:34 PM
Jesus Swadman that is nothing to do with me!!

Humorous all the same  ;D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Swadman on December 08, 2010, 07:42:53 PM
I was joking - The catch phrase reminded me of you.
Looks like we are a go for Clones on Sunday, subject to a pitch inspection on Friday morning.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: PhilsJemmysField on December 10, 2010, 05:46:33 PM
We in Killinkere look forward to having Sandwiches and a Lucozade with St Mary's as Ulster and All Ireland Champions, next year.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on December 10, 2010, 06:49:35 PM
So it looks like Swad will get their game on Sunday. They'll be delighted, I think they would be seriously disadvantaged to have is postponed for a few months especially given the form they are in. All of Cavan is backing ye lads, best of luck
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on December 10, 2010, 09:43:29 PM
Just saw this on Facebook...

Following issues with frozen water systems at St Tiernachs Park Clones, both the Senior and Junior Finals have been moved to Kingspan Breffni Park at the times of 12.15pm and 2.00pm on Sunday

and Facebook hasn't let me down yet!!  ;D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dougal on December 10, 2010, 11:04:34 PM
saw someone saying that on facebook,and thought they might have gotten it mixed up.i might just have to book monday off work.  ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on December 10, 2010, 11:53:27 PM
No the game has been moved to Breffni! I'd say Corduff must be having a fit though with the Ulster council handing Swad home advantage. Familiar surroundings, hopefully a good support from all over the county.. You'd have to say they're in with a great shout.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: CavanCola on December 12, 2010, 06:43:57 PM
Did swad win?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on December 12, 2010, 07:17:14 PM
Quote from: CavanCola on December 12, 2010, 06:43:57 PM
Did swad win?

Think they beaten by 4??
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: CavanCola on December 12, 2010, 08:24:10 PM
Quote from: Celt_Man on December 12, 2010, 07:17:14 PM
Quote from: CavanCola on December 12, 2010, 06:43:57 PM
Did swad win?


That's a pity. Any success at any level would be good for cavan football...

Think they beaten by 4??

That's a pity... Any Cavan success at any level will do me at this stage! Thought they were capable of doing it since I saw them in the junior final.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BigMac on December 13, 2010, 12:04:45 PM
Hard luck to Swad, still a very good year and can be very proud of themselves for getting to the Ulster Final.
On another note I see we are the first county to be caught having an organised training during the "closed season". Its a ridiculous rule and needs to be amended, but still very stupid/naiive of the management to be caught doing it. Im sure most counties are doing it, but to get caught is very foolish.
http://www.irishexaminer.ie/sport/gaa/cavan-break-gaas-winter-training-ban-139300.html
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on December 13, 2010, 01:31:43 PM
Separate thread set up on the main board Big Mac.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on December 19, 2010, 09:01:51 PM
What do you think of the new Cavan Jersey? I'm not impressed myself, its moved too far away from our traditional colours imo.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up-again on December 20, 2010, 01:10:42 AM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on December 19, 2010, 09:01:51 PM
What do you think of the new Cavan Jersey? I'm not impressed myself, its moved too far away from our traditional colours imo.

Myles to tell the truth I couldn't care less if our jerseys were pink with yellow stripes this year once the players who wear them show hunger, desire, honesty and a great work-rate while wearing it!

I see Donegal have freshened up their squad signiificantly this year. What are we expecting our McKenna Cup Panel to be like? We must be the only Ulster county not to have named it yet are we?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on December 20, 2010, 01:54:31 PM
Quote from: put-it-up-again on December 20, 2010, 01:10:42 AM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on December 19, 2010, 09:01:51 PM
What do you think of the new Cavan Jersey? I'm not impressed myself, its moved too far away from our traditional colours imo.

Myles to tell the truth I couldn't care less if our jerseys were pink with yellow stripes this year once the players who wear them show hunger, desire, honesty and a great work-rate while wearing it!

I see Donegal have freshened up their squad signiificantly this year. What are we expecting our McKenna Cup Panel to be like? We must be the only Ulster county not to have named it yet are we?

Heh its the silly season, there is no football to talk about so we might as well take a leaf from Paul Galvins book and talk about fashion! Anyway, I couldn't care less about the players heart and work rate as long as they bloody well look good :D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tierworker blue on December 21, 2010, 12:29:03 PM
Bought it yesterday...it's actually quite nice!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on December 21, 2010, 03:36:50 PM
Where can we look at it?

But as Put it up again said, I don't c are how the team looks as long as we can say/believe the players gave it their all.

Have a good peaceful and safe holiday ya'll.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tierworker blue on December 21, 2010, 05:36:01 PM
Quote from: Denn Forever on December 21, 2010, 03:36:50 PM
Where can we look at it?

But as Put it up again said, I don't c are how the team looks as long as we can say/believe the players gave it their all.

Have a good peaceful and safe holiday ya'll.

http://www.oneills.com/productdetails/340/cavan-2011-home-jersey.aspx
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dougal on December 22, 2010, 01:36:30 PM
From Hogan Stand.

New Cavan managers Val Andrews and Terry Hyland have revealed their panel for the upcoming Dr McKenna Cup.

The panel contains a large number of the 2010 squad with a number of newcomers also included.



Cavan panel for Barrett Sports Lighting Dr McKenna Cup: James Reilly, Fintan Reilly, Anton O'Reilly, Alan Clarke, Pauric Cahill, Damien O'Reilly, John McCutcheon, Sean McCormack, Ciaran Galligan, Eoin McGuigan, Ronan O'Flanagan, Mark McKeever, Michael Brennan, Sean Johnston, Thomas Corr, Dane O'Dowd, Stephen Jordan, Ray Cullivan, Lorcan Mulvey, Keith Fannin, Paddy Gumley, Padraig O'Reilly, Ronan Reilly, Gerard Pierson, Brendan Fitzpatrick, Niall O'Reilly.

is pauric cahill the lad from killygarry who was on the cavan juniors last year?damien reilly from belturbet i presume.who's sean mccormack?ronan reilly from killdallan?niall reilly from ballinagh? (by the way im not questioning these selections,im just wondering is that who im thinking of)

good to see fannin back,had a good year last year and seemed to be treated harshly by TC.was it 2 years ago paddy gumley was on the panel?who can we expect to be brought in for the league?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on December 22, 2010, 02:25:08 PM
Only 1 from Cavan Gaels?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on December 22, 2010, 02:27:55 PM
yeah why no duffy or eammon reily\? maybe they werent good enough in trails
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on December 22, 2010, 02:32:08 PM
is nesty smith being rested? its a decent panel, interesting to see how anton reilly gets on, talented player but has a short fuse,hopefully hyland and andrews can get the best out of him,as he has loads of ability.. Good to see pierson back and paddy gumley. Gumley was on the mckenna cup panel 2 years ago but was dropped before the league when he has been playing well. Damian reilly of belturbet is a good player ,he could do a job at full back
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dougal on December 22, 2010, 02:35:47 PM
ye looks like it,by my counting thats only 3 representitives from the 5 teams that made up the winners of senior, inter, junior, div1, div2 and div3 this year,and another 1 from the team that won the last 3 u21 titles.

mackey isnt in college,is he?or has he been left out because he's "injured"?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on December 22, 2010, 03:12:49 PM
I thought gaynor was supposed to be back too.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on December 22, 2010, 03:41:16 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on December 22, 2010, 02:32:08 PM
is nesty smith being rested? its a decent panel, interesting to see how anton reilly gets on, talented player but has a short fuse,hopefully hyland and andrews can get the best out of him,as he has loads of ability.. Good to see pierson back and paddy gumley. Gumley was on the mckenna cup panel 2 years ago but was dropped before the league when he has been playing well. Damian reilly of belturbet is a good player ,he could do a job at full back

Had you your head in the sand that year, he collasped at training and is doing well to be back playing football.

Gaynor was part of the 100 or so players that was looked at but must not of made it.  Sean Mccormick is from Ballyhasie.

Its early yet but if that is the best players we have in the county we are in trouble.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on December 22, 2010, 04:01:37 PM
It's a shame more didn't come through the development thing.. And where's the Kingscourt/Gaels lads?? I suppose for the league you'd be adding back in Gearoid McKiernan, Givney, Barry Reilly, maybe Declan McKiernan and a few more? Surprised to see Ronan Reilly back in there.. Brilliant two years ago but didn't do much since.. Well nobody can say that everyone wasn't looked at and given the chance to join..

When's the first home game in the McKenna Cup?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up-again on December 22, 2010, 06:05:34 PM
nesty is injured, as is hannon as far as i know. Leaving mackey out i would say is to take some of the heat off about the other thing. I think al
l u21s are being left alone until their year is over. Very surprised at the lack of kingscourt and gales lads...its a big disapppoint to me. Wanted to see the likes of king and wakeley give it a real shot.

To the best of my knowledge i think keating givney martin reilly gearoid mck pdermot  sheridan and lyng are our college representtatives!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on December 23, 2010, 11:58:25 AM
Quote from: put-it-up-again on December 22, 2010, 06:05:34 PM
nesty is injured, as is hannon as far as i know. Leaving mackey out i would say is to take some of the heat off about the other thing. I think al
l u21s are being left alone until their year is over. Very surprised at the lack of kingscourt and gales lads...its a big disapppoint to me. Wanted to see the likes of king and wakeley give it a real shot.

To the best of my knowledge i think keating givney martin reilly gearoid mck pdermot  sheridan and lyng are our college representtatives!

Are you serious?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up-again on December 23, 2010, 12:48:41 PM
I am indeed  ;D

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: beer baron on December 23, 2010, 01:02:32 PM
Quote from: tommysmith on December 23, 2010, 11:58:25 AM
Quote from: put-it-up-again on December 22, 2010, 06:05:34 PM
nesty is injured, as is hannon as far as i know. Leaving mackey out i would say is to take some of the heat off about the other thing. I think al
l u21s are being left alone until their year is over. Very surprised at the lack of kingscourt and gales lads...its a big disapppoint to me. Wanted to see the likes of king and wakeley give it a real shot.

To the best of my knowledge i think keating givney martin reilly gearoid mck pdermot  sheridan and lyng are our college representtatives!

Jim Mc Guinness wouldn't have a look in!

Are you serious?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on December 23, 2010, 04:07:37 PM
First time I've posted on inter county matters since the debacle down in Cork. Can only echo the views of a number of other posters. Kingscourt, Gaels, Ramor and Mullahoran were our County semi finalists last year and I'm counting a total of three lads from those clubs on the panel. Maybe Val and Terry haven't had huge success, yet, in trying to get a few blokes to commit.

I'm well gone from things now but I remember reading Fitzpatrick in the Celt after the Cork game saying that a lot of the lads on the panel would not make the Gaels first 15. No harm to them for at least putting the effort in when others won't but I'd say a few of the names he was thinking of remain in this panel.

Happy Christmas and new year to one and all
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Breffni_Yank on December 23, 2010, 05:53:28 PM
I know two Cavan Gaels players who were asked in but said they couldn't commit until January because of work commitments. They said they would be very interested in giving it a go but I think Val felt if you weren't in before Jan then that was that.

I'm very disappointed with the squad, literally nothing has changed. How many times have the likes of Anton and Ronan Reilly been tried in the McKenna Cup over the last few years?

Darren Smith from Lavey for me just has to be tried at FB. On the positive side Pierson and James Reilly back is a massive plus. Hopefully the u21's get a good run this year and then 4 or 5 could go into the senior squad and freshen it up just ahead of the summer. I would rather have that than trying every tom dick and harry in the county in the McKenna Cup I think...
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on December 30, 2010, 04:56:40 PM
Jayus it is like a funeral is going on in this thread! Someone post something ffs. Surely there must have been a few fights in the camp already that someone could report on :D Its nearly time for the McKenna cup so lets get some life back into the thread.

I was wondering where many of our posters went to (red n black, homer, cavanmaniac etc etc). So, lets have a roll call and see who is still active on here...

Mylestheslasher - Anseo.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: drici on December 30, 2010, 05:52:08 PM
http://drumlinmedia.com/
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: drici on December 31, 2010, 12:23:34 PM
Quote from: drici on December 30, 2010, 05:52:08 PM

http://drumlinmedia.com/



When playing red cars versus blue cars versus white cars, the car has to go to the right of the screen past the camera. Cars that torun(!) left into that wee street do not count. At night in the 'smokers outside the bar competition', the amount of smokers over any five minute period count for whoever's five minutes that is. Any smokers still remaining on the street after the first contestant's five minutes will be included in the next's count. Smokers must go back into the bar after their feg to be included.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on December 31, 2010, 01:40:49 PM
Get some sleep Drici!

Was just having a look a the indo gaa section and came across this mini interview with Tommy Carr (part of a couple of interviews with managers that left their job at the end of the year)


Tommy Carr

(Cavan)

Q What's the best thing you did all season?

A The best achievement of the season would have been beating Wicklow with two men down and seven points behind at the beginning of the second half. Other than that, it would have been biting the bullet with a few uncommitted players who were hanging on to the panel just for the sake of being there.

Q What's the one thing, with the benefit of hindsight, you'd do differently?

A Tackle the colleges issue in a more aggressive manner. We were without 14 of our panellists until mid February from a training perspective.

Q Would you have liked to stay on, and why?

A I opted not to even try and stay on.

Q Do you see yourself managing a county team again?

A Yes, but I would exercise better judgement in my selection of teams.

Obviously, not a happy man with how things went in Cavan!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on December 31, 2010, 03:13:10 PM
Lets start 2011 in aq hopeful state of mind.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dIj-6fr2SlI

I won't say they can't get any worse because remember we are CAVAN.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up-again on January 03, 2011, 12:35:34 AM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on December 31, 2010, 01:40:49 PM
Get some sleep Drici!

Was just having a look a the indo gaa section and came across this mini interview with Tommy Carr (part of a couple of interviews with managers that left their job at the end of the year)


Tommy Carr

(Cavan)

Q What's the best thing you did all season?

A The best achievement of the season would have been beating Wicklow with two men down and seven points behind at the beginning of the second half. Other than that, it would have been biting the bullet with a few uncommitted players who were hanging on to the panel just for the sake of being there.

Q What's the one thing, with the benefit of hindsight, you'd do differently?

A Tackle the colleges issue in a more aggressive manner. We were without 14 of our panellists until mid February from a training perspective.

Q Would you have liked to stay on, and why?

A I opted not to even try and stay on.

Q Do you see yourself managing a county team again?

A Yes, but I would exercise better judgement in my selection of teams.

Obviously, not a happy man with how things went in Cavan!

I think the quicker we forget that man the better. I think we should ban his name from this thread..all he wants is publicity and media chasing after him and for some reason he is still getting it despite his appaling record.

Picked up the Celt today, nice to see Terry being straight up about why certain Gaels and Kingscourt lads didn't come in instead of the secrecy and rumour mill. I would still like to see Enda King and Wakely in particular allowed in after the McKenna Cup, even if they did miss all the winter weights. Enda could really give us something at WF i think and we all know how we are at FB. Wakely was the best there was in the county by a mile last year!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on January 03, 2011, 10:15:09 AM
Phil Sheridan of Golbolie, Bailieborough, Cavan passed away on 31st of December 2010.
Phil was 99 years old and his passing will be a great loss to all who knew him.

A great GAA man who will be a great loss to the Shamrocks Club.

Ar dheis Dé go raibh a anam.



Anybody who was involved in east Cavan GAA at any time over the last 80 years will have come across Phil, a real Shamrocks stalwart. Descendents/relations include Gerry (Ulster medal 97) and Cillian of County minor and Soccer fame plus many Sheridans currently serving the Shamrocks club.

My own earliest memories of Phil would be travelling to Breffni as a nipper in the early 70's. Three miles outside the town (by Corries Foundry/the Hide out Bar) there would be a group of anything up to 20 young lads being patrolled by Phil. the idea was that anybody with a car picked up a few of the lads and got them to/from the game. Times have changed indeed.

Slan  go foil a mhic.

Happy new year and I agree totally with PIUA's assessment of the departed and not lamented Tommy Carr.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on January 03, 2011, 10:31:33 AM
Quote from: anglocelt39 on January 03, 2011, 10:15:09 AM
Phil Sheridan of Golbolie, Bailieborough, Cavan passed away on 31st of December 2010.
Phil was 99 years old and his passing will be a great loss to all who knew him.

A great GAA man who will be a great loss to the Shamrocks Club.

Ar dheis Dé go raibh a anam.



Anybody who was involved in east Cavan GAA at any time over the last 80 years will have come across Phil, a real Shamrocks stalwart. Descendents/relations include Gerry (Ulster medal 97) and Cillian of County minor and Soccer fame plus many Sheridans currently serving the Shamrocks club.

My own earliest memories of Phil would be travelling to Breffni as a nipper in the early 70's. Three miles outside the town (by Corries Foundry/the Hide out Bar) there would be a group of anything up to 20 young lads being patrolled by Phil. the idea was that anybody with a car picked up a few of the lads and got them to/from the game. Times have changed indeed.

Slan  go foil a mhic.

Happy new year and I agree totally with PIUA's assessment of the departed and not lamented Tommy Carr.

He lived to a grand age anyway at 99. Its men like him that put that sort of dedication into the game that are some of the real heroes of the GAA imo. RIP.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Western Blue on January 03, 2011, 05:52:23 PM
Just learned about the great Phil Sheridan passing away. Can still see this big man in his best Sunday suit with a crisp white shirt patrolling up along the side lines of St Anne's Park on Sunday afternoon's offering great encouragement be it to the U.14's or the Senior side.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on January 03, 2011, 06:01:36 PM
Quote from: put-it-up-again on January 03, 2011, 12:35:34 AM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on December 31, 2010, 01:40:49 PM
Get some sleep Drici!

Was just having a look a the indo gaa section and came across this mini interview with Tommy Carr (part of a couple of interviews with managers that left their job at the end of the year)


Tommy Carr

(Cavan)

Q What's the best thing you did all season?

A The best achievement of the season would have been beating Wicklow with two men down and seven points behind at the beginning of the second half. Other than that, it would have been biting the bullet with a few uncommitted players who were hanging on to the panel just for the sake of being there.

Q What's the one thing, with the benefit of hindsight, you'd do differently?

A Tackle the colleges issue in a more aggressive manner. We were without 14 of our panellists until mid February from a training perspective.

Q Would you have liked to stay on, and why?

A I opted not to even try and stay on.

Q Do you see yourself managing a county team again?

A Yes, but I would exercise better judgement in my selection of teams.

Obviously, not a happy man with how things went in Cavan!

I think the quicker we forget that man the better. I think we should ban his name from this thread..all he wants is publicity and media chasing after him and for some reason he is still getting it despite his appaling record.

Picked up the Celt today, nice to see Terry being straight up about why certain Gaels and Kingscourt lads didn't come in instead of the secrecy and rumour mill. I would still like to see Enda King and Wakely in particular allowed in after the McKenna Cup, even if they did miss all the winter weights. Enda could really give us something at WF i think and we all know how we are at FB. Wakely was the best there was in the county by a mile last year!
Give me the bones of it PIUA. Didn't get the Celt.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dougal on January 03, 2011, 07:25:13 PM
wakely and mccormack couldnt commit due to work,barry reilly and barry tully are on the u21's
king and chesty couldnt commit because of work as well.pauric smith and gavin duffy are injured.sean reilly is suspended
nesty,dermot sheridan mackey and cahill are all injured
givney keating martin reilly and lyng are with colleges.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on January 03, 2011, 11:08:56 PM
Quote from: Dougal on January 03, 2011, 07:25:13 PM
wakely and mccormack couldnt commit due to work,barry reilly and barry tully are on the u21's
king and chesty couldnt commit because of work as well.pauric smith and gavin duffy are injured.sean reilly is suspended
nesty,dermot sheridan mackey and cahill are all injured
givney keating martin reilly and lyng are with colleges.

Injured my arse, they must have fell over when drunk.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up-again on January 04, 2011, 12:19:49 AM
Quote from: tommysmith on January 03, 2011, 11:08:56 PM
Quote from: Dougal on January 03, 2011, 07:25:13 PM
wakely and mccormack couldnt commit due to work,barry reilly and barry tully are on the u21's
king and chesty couldnt commit because of work as well.pauric smith and gavin duffy are injured.sean reilly is suspended
nesty,dermot sheridan mackey and cahill are all injured
givney keating martin reilly and lyng are with colleges.

Injured my arse, they must have fell over when drunk.

Because god forbid anyone was drunk over the last few weeks!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on January 04, 2011, 01:50:07 PM
Quote from: put-it-up-again on January 04, 2011, 12:19:49 AM
Quote from: tommysmith on January 03, 2011, 11:08:56 PM
Quote from: Dougal on January 03, 2011, 07:25:13 PM
wakely and mccormack couldnt commit due to work,barry reilly and barry tully are on the u21's
king and chesty couldnt commit because of work as well.pauric smith and gavin duffy are injured.sean reilly is suspended
nesty,dermot sheridan mackey and cahill are all injured
givney keating martin reilly and lyng are with colleges.

Injured my arse, they must have fell over when drunk.

Because god forbid anyone was drunk over the last few weeks!

Well i know you would have been anyway seen that you think we want to know when you have had a few.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on January 04, 2011, 03:37:25 PM
Quote from: tommysmith on January 04, 2011, 01:50:07 PM
Quote from: put-it-up-again on January 04, 2011, 12:19:49 AM
Quote from: tommysmith on January 03, 2011, 11:08:56 PM
Quote from: Dougal on January 03, 2011, 07:25:13 PM
wakely and mccormack couldnt commit due to work,barry reilly and barry tully are on the u21's
king and chesty couldnt commit because of work as well.pauric smith and gavin duffy are injured.sean reilly is suspended
nesty,dermot sheridan mackey and cahill are all injured
givney keating martin reilly and lyng are with colleges.

Injured my arse, they must have fell over when drunk.

Because god forbid anyone was drunk over the last few weeks!

Well i know you would have been anyway seen that you think we want to know when you have had a few.

I've read that sentence 3 times and still can't understand what you are saying.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dougal on January 04, 2011, 06:09:06 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on January 04, 2011, 03:37:25 PM
Quote from: tommysmith on January 04, 2011, 01:50:07 PM
Quote from: put-it-up-again on January 04, 2011, 12:19:49 AM
Quote from: tommysmith on January 03, 2011, 11:08:56 PM
Quote from: Dougal on January 03, 2011, 07:25:13 PM
wakely and mccormack couldnt commit due to work,barry reilly and barry tully are on the u21's
king and chesty couldnt commit because of work as well.pauric smith and gavin duffy are injured.sean reilly is suspended
nesty,dermot sheridan mackey and cahill are all injured
givney keating martin reilly and lyng are with colleges.

Injured my arse, they must have fell over when drunk.

Because god forbid anyone was drunk over the last few weeks!

Well i know you would have been anyway seen that you think we want to know when you have had a few.

I've read that sentence 3 times and still can't understand what you are saying.

glad im not the only one,no matter what combination you put them in it doesnt make sense.  :P
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on January 04, 2011, 06:23:49 PM
I think it does. Tommy thinks that PIUA wants everyone to know when he's drunk. I'm not sure why he thinks that though. Is there a stand in the 3G pitch more importantly?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dougal on January 04, 2011, 06:50:47 PM
there is a stand at the 3G pitch,suppose it would hold 300 people.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on January 04, 2011, 07:16:02 PM
Quote from: Lawrence of Knockbride on January 04, 2011, 06:23:49 PM
I think it does. Tommy thinks that PIUA wants everyone to know when he's drunk. I'm not sure why he thinks that though. Is there a stand in the 3G pitch more importantly?

Good man LOF good to see someone can read anyway.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on January 04, 2011, 07:51:10 PM
Quote from: tommysmith on January 04, 2011, 07:16:02 PM
Quote from: Lawrence of Knockbride on January 04, 2011, 06:23:49 PM
I think it does. Tommy thinks that PIUA wants everyone to know when he's drunk. I'm not sure why he thinks that though. Is there a stand in the 3G pitch more importantly?

Good man LOF good to see someone can read anyway.

It's not reading you should be worried about. Replace 'seen that' with 'seeing as' and then it makes sense in English.

Knockbride begins with a K.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on January 04, 2011, 07:57:01 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on January 04, 2011, 07:51:10 PM
Quote from: tommysmith on January 04, 2011, 07:16:02 PM
Quote from: Lawrence of Knockbride on January 04, 2011, 06:23:49 PM
I think it does. Tommy thinks that PIUA wants everyone to know when he's drunk. I'm not sure why he thinks that though. Is there a stand in the 3G pitch more importantly?

Good man LOF good to see someone can read anyway.

It's not reading you should be worried about. Replace 'seen that' with 'seeing as' and then it makes sense in English.

Knockbride begins with a K.

Thanks for the lesson old timer.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on January 04, 2011, 08:20:00 PM
You're welcome.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Western Blue on January 04, 2011, 08:27:46 PM
Haven been to  Cavan since I walked out of  Breffni Park at half-time in the Wicklow match very distraught and promising never to support my native county again!. Whiter it is the appointment of Team Andrews/Hyland ( Clough/Taylor) for 2011 I am feeling good again and so I am prepared to put on my old Kingspan jersey for another year and travel over from the West to watch the Queens match Sat night in the hope of seeing some areas of improvement and a win for moral purposes. I would imagine the team should have some degree of fitness at this time?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on January 04, 2011, 09:03:34 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on January 04, 2011, 07:51:10 PM
Quote from: tommysmith on January 04, 2011, 07:16:02 PM
Quote from: Lawrence of Knockbride on January 04, 2011, 06:23:49 PM
I think it does. Tommy thinks that PIUA wants everyone to know when he's drunk. I'm not sure why he thinks that though. Is there a stand in the 3G pitch more importantly?

Good man LOF good to see someone can read anyway.

It's not reading you should be worried about. Replace 'seen that' with 'seeing as' and then it makes sense in English.

Knockbride begins with a K.
Ah sure he's only having a lof. :D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on January 04, 2011, 10:46:48 PM
I wonder what sort of team will start against Queens. With flanagan,cullivan and johnston involved i think cavan should give queens a better rattle unlike the last couple of years when they got hammered. A ff line of gumley pierson and sean johnston would cause damage. I would like to see damian reilly belturbet tried at midfield and sean mc cormack at full back,they are both new but are good footballers. Hope fannin is tried at wing forward he was wasted when he was corner back. Whatever happens i hope its better than the tommy carr era ::)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Ollie on January 04, 2011, 10:57:56 PM
Quote from: Western Blue on January 04, 2011, 08:27:46 PM
Haven been to  Cavan since I walked out of  Breffni Park at half-time in the Wicklow match very distraught and promising never to support my native county again!. Whiter it is the appointment of Team Andrews/Hyland ( Clough/Taylor) for 2011 I am feeling good again and so I am prepared to put on my old Kingspan jersey for another year and travel over from the West to watch the Queens match Sat night in the hope of seeing some areas of improvement and a win for moral purposes. I would imagine the team should have some degree of fitness at this time?
.....

I wouldn't be expecting much of an improvement or a win in the first game of the year against a highly rated college side. Queens have been training properly since September where as Cavan have had very little collective training... Hopefully by the start of the league we might see some improvement in the side.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on January 04, 2011, 11:00:31 PM
Quote from: Western Blue on January 04, 2011, 08:27:46 PM
Haven been to  Cavan since I walked out of  Breffni Park at half-time in the Wicklow match very distraught and promising never to support my native county again!. Whiter it is the appointment of Team Andrews/Hyland ( Clough/Taylor) for 2011 I am feeling good again and so I am prepared to put on my old Kingspan jersey for another year and travel over from the West to watch the Queens match Sat night in the hope of seeing some areas of improvement and a win for moral purposes. I would imagine the team should have some degree of fitness at this time?

Ha ha, i'd say you were sorry you left that game. It was the only bit of enjoyment I got from tommy carrs reign.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up-again on January 05, 2011, 12:31:12 AM
Quote from: tommysmith on January 04, 2011, 01:50:07 PM
Quote from: put-it-up-again on January 04, 2011, 12:19:49 AM
Quote from: tommysmith on January 03, 2011, 11:08:56 PM
Quote from: Dougal on January 03, 2011, 07:25:13 PM
wakely and mccormack couldnt commit due to work,barry reilly and barry tully are on the u21's
king and chesty couldnt commit because of work as well.pauric smith and gavin duffy are injured.sean reilly is suspended
nesty,dermot sheridan mackey and cahill are all injured
givney keating martin reilly and lyng are with colleges.

Injured my arse, they must have fell over when drunk.

Because god forbid anyone was drunk over the last few weeks!

Well i know you would have been anyway seen that you think we want to know when you have had a few.

Tommy you boy ya, just what are you talking about? Did you have a bad day at the office or something?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on January 05, 2011, 01:06:46 PM
This is just a sample i know there were lots on the account that you deleted.
QuoteBecause god forbid anyone was drunk over the last few weeks!

QuoteLads will ye relax, the boy's weren't training at all. They were just meeting up at a starting point for a few Christmas beers and normally the piss-ups start from Breffni after a championship exit so it was only fitting to start the session their to celebrate the baby jebus's birthday   Tradition and all that for the season that is in it!

QuoteI honestly think if lads drink together and have the craic together they will become a closer unit. Some times a good session has ten times the impact on morale than a training session.
I would draw the line on being on the rip the night before a league game and three nights before a champo match!

QuoteCan someone let me know how the games go? Hungover in Dublin after that thrilling International Rules
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Terry Coyle on January 05, 2011, 01:42:30 PM
Tommy you have little to be at. Maybe go and watch that boxette of Sex and the City you got for Christmas!  :D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on January 05, 2011, 02:07:52 PM
Quote from: Terry Coyle on January 05, 2011, 01:42:30 PM
Tommy you have little to be at. Maybe go and watch that boxette of Sex and the City you got for Christmas!  :D

Excuse me for answering a question.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dougal on January 05, 2011, 02:10:43 PM
not really though,he only mentioned himself and drink together once.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Terry Coyle on January 05, 2011, 02:58:04 PM
Quote from: Thastheball on January 05, 2011, 02:27:45 PM
TerryC, Chapman is the new manager, how did that happen, he was with our rivals last year. I was hoping we could have persuaded cassidy to take the reigns.

A lot of people were thinking the same, me included. Dont know much about Chapman but by all accounts there were good reports from the Dreadnoughts camp. And they were playing good football last year - takes no crap so maybe is just what we need.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on January 05, 2011, 04:01:57 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on January 04, 2011, 10:46:48 PM
damian reilly belturbet tried at midfield and sean mc cormack at full back

As far as I know Damien Reilly was corner back the other day against Letrim in Breffni - definitely not Midfield anyway...

Is Seán McCormack in the squad at the minute?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Western Blue on January 05, 2011, 06:05:35 PM
 Letrim in Breffni. Any other news from this challenge match...team that started and the score. I can take it that it was played on the 3G pitch?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up-again on January 05, 2011, 06:16:02 PM
Quote from: tommysmith on January 05, 2011, 01:06:46 PM
This is just a sample i know there were lots on the account that you deleted.
QuoteBecause god forbid anyone was drunk over the last few weeks!

QuoteLads will ye relax, the boy's weren't training at all. They were just meeting up at a starting point for a few Christmas beers and normally the piss-ups start from Breffni after a championship exit so it was only fitting to start the session their to celebrate the baby jebus's birthday   Tradition and all that for the season that is in it!

QuoteI honestly think if lads drink together and have the craic together they will become a closer unit. Some times a good session has ten times the impact on morale than a training session.
I would draw the line on being on the rip the night before a league game and three nights before a champo match!

QuoteCan someone let me know how the games go? Hungover in Dublin after that thrilling International Rules

You really do have little to be at. Is is that time of the month?  ;D

The second post is clearly a joke. The third one I genuinely believe in once it is conducted in the right manner. Any team I have been on be it college, club or whatever, when we have gone out together and let our hairs down and had the 'craic' for the want of a better word, we have genuinely become a closer unit after that. The last line of the post is clearly tongue in cheek. Did someone rob your sense of humour?

And the last one is just fact, I had a hangover and wanted to know what was going on.

What are you, Head of the Pioneer association or something?

(http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_9hPdvNdeJ5I/SjEmnwqaSSI/AAAAAAAACFk/3br_L1x9vto/s400/no-alcohol.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.congressheightsontherise.com/2009_05_17_archive.html&usg=__CNa21Lk1cN-vbJbDyWjzFNCaaKE=&h=400&w=400&sz=23&hl=en&start=0&sig2=JdQbTWwBHfXg7ImjSpXG6w&zoom=1&tbnid=bqSd2QJneYiJkM:&tbnh=129&tbnw=129&ei=P7UkTb7kGo20hAfJzqmQAg&prev=/images%3Fq%3Danti%2Balcohol%2Bprotest%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26gbv%3D2%26biw%3D974%26bih%3D558%26tbs%3Disch:10%2C268&um=1&itbs=1&iact=hc&vpx=319&vpy=89&dur=1042&hovh=225&hovw=225&tx=100&ty=119&oei=J7UkTd6uOIq7hAew6NS3Dg&esq=10&page=1&ndsp=13&ved=1t:429,r:10,s:0&biw=974&bih=558)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: beer baron on January 05, 2011, 06:18:59 PM
Quote from: Western Blue on January 05, 2011, 06:05:35 PM
Letrim in Breffni. Any other news from this challenge match...team that started and the score. I can take it that it was played on the 3G pitch?

One of the boys called in for last few minutes after work the other day,said they lost by 3 or 4 points,didn't look an overly competitive affair and about half the team was from last years team! Was only chatting for 2 minutes so that's all i got!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up-again on January 05, 2011, 06:19:47 PM
Regards to the Leitrim game I think cavan were beaten 3-9 to 0-14 or something. Very experimental line-up, wouldn't really look into it too much at all to be honest. Didn't see it or anything just heard that from someone else.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on January 05, 2011, 06:25:59 PM
Heard Fintan Reilly in goals, Damien Reilly and Pauirc Cahill Corner backs, Cullivan centre half back, Galligan and Podge Reilly midfield - forwards included Ronan Reilly and Anton Reilly.  Lost by a point seemingly

Wasn't at it, only heard second or third hand so couldn't stand over it
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on January 05, 2011, 06:30:15 PM
The Celt says they lost by 1 point 2-09 to 14 points. Podge Reilly apparently the best performer on the day..

I see the HS says that 14 of the first choice panel is unavailable for the game against Queens. Including Johnston who is on holidays.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Western Blue on January 05, 2011, 06:37:38 PM
I read that piece too about 14 players missing! Who are these 14 players??. I can think of 6 players alright  but another 8 players has me puzzled!! Have we anybody to play on Saturday night or should we give a walkover to Queens
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: beer baron on January 05, 2011, 07:10:48 PM
Quote from: Western Blue on January 05, 2011, 06:37:38 PM
I read that piece too about 14 players missing! Who are these 14 players??. I can think of 6 players alright  but another 8 players has me puzzled!! Have we anybody to play on Saturday night or should we give a walkover to Queens

The panel is massive! :o
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on January 07, 2011, 05:52:40 PM
Any word on the team for tomorrow?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up-again on January 07, 2011, 07:37:23 PM
Not too sure on the exact team Celt Man but I would expect to see

James Reilly, McGuigan, Patrick Carroll, McKeever, Alan Clarke, Galligan, Flanagan, Mickey Brennan and Gumley all playing. 11/8 we are and us at home, I would get on board!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Terry Coyle on January 08, 2011, 01:58:22 PM
I would keep your money in your pocket PIU...
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on January 08, 2011, 04:31:26 PM
Game off tonight.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on January 08, 2011, 06:31:04 PM
Quote from: boojangles on January 08, 2011, 04:31:26 PM
Game off tonight.

Heard that at dinner time and was suprised.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up-again on January 08, 2011, 08:47:20 PM
The all weather pitch was unplayable due to the weather...how ironic  ;D

That's what i was told but I would imagine it had more to do with the state of the ground in the car park and that...

And 11/8 was fantastic value for us tonight
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dougal on January 09, 2011, 04:39:20 PM
was there a team named before the game was called off?will johnston be available for the next game?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on January 10, 2011, 12:19:27 PM
Is johnny mcbride over killeshandra this year,somebody mentioned it on hoganstand, how did they pull that off :o
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Breffni_Yank on January 10, 2011, 12:50:54 PM
Have we many students this year or have most of them graduated at this stage?

Is see Gearoid McKiernan and Martin Reilly were playing for DIT at the weekend. They annihalated Wexford.

http://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-football/connolly-shines-in-dit-masterclass-2490161.html
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on January 10, 2011, 01:31:55 PM
Martin reilly was playing with Dit yesterday aswell, keating was playing with Sligo IT, didnt see givney mentioned he must be injured. Lyng is still with Dcu, not sure if cullivan is still there. I'm not sure what other players are playing college football. I heard Mayo have 16 players playing college fooball, lads like peadar gardiner and alan dillon are back studying again,playing with NUIG..
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dougal on January 10, 2011, 01:48:02 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on January 10, 2011, 12:19:27 PM
Is johnny mcbride over killeshandra this year,somebody mentioned it on hoganstand, how did they pull that off :o

i saw that on hoganstand as well,i had been told it was tom downs and junior mckiernan though,so im not sure.who is he,the name doesnt ring a bell,but you sound impressed.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on January 10, 2011, 01:57:39 PM
johnny mc bride from derry dougal
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up-again on January 10, 2011, 02:04:18 PM
Quote from: Dougal on January 10, 2011, 01:48:02 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on January 10, 2011, 12:19:27 PM
Is johnny mcbride over killeshandra this year,somebody mentioned it on hoganstand, how did they pull that off :o

i saw that on hoganstand as well,i had been told it was tom downs and junior mckiernan though,so im not sure.who is he,the name doesnt ring a bell,but you sound impressed.

I was told by one of the players it was Tom and Junior alright, so might just be HS shite. Not too much is true on that forum!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on January 10, 2011, 02:13:23 PM
ha yeah your right about that PIU
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dougal on January 10, 2011, 02:14:10 PM
jesus,mcbride has some history as a player.doesnt seem to have any experience as a manger though.maybe myles can shine some light on whether this is true or not?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up-again on January 10, 2011, 02:20:17 PM
By the way, who is actually training the seniors this year?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Breffni_Yank on January 10, 2011, 02:21:25 PM
I think someone said it was your man Pat Flanagan..is that true?

Did the u21's play at the weekend? Are they any good this year? Is Gearoid McKiernan still underage does anyone know?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BigMac on January 10, 2011, 02:34:01 PM
I dont think Cullivan is still in DCU. Well he graduated last year anyway unless he's gonna do a Lyng on it and go back and start a new degree so he can play there for another 4 years.
Anyone got any idea of what the team would have been at the weekend? I a small bit more optimistic this year than the last few. Was talking to a panel member over the christmas and he told me that this set up is much more professional than under the Tommy Carr regime. Also glad to see that some players are back like Podge and Pierson. It is also a bit refreshing to have Terry come out and say the reasons why players aren't on the panel, and not afraid to name names and their excuses. I did really doubt Terry's ability as a manager, and still do, but have a positive attitude so far. (Taking into account its only the 10th of january and there isn't a ball kicked in anger yet.)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dougal on January 10, 2011, 03:13:24 PM
from what ive been hearing it's pat flanagan that's training them alright.

ye,gearoids still underage,i would be hoping to see as much of the u21s this year as possible,so if anyone hears of challenge games or the like woulds yis let me know,thanks.

so who do we have in the mckenna cup this weekend,or is the next round a mid-week fixture?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Breffni_Yank on January 10, 2011, 03:55:29 PM
Quote from: Dougal on January 10, 2011, 03:13:24 PM
from what ive been hearing it's pat flanagan that's training them alright.

ye,gearoids still underage,i would be hoping to see as much of the u21s this year as possible,so if anyone hears of challenge games or the like woulds yis let me know,thanks.

so who do we have in the mckenna cup this weekend,or is the next round a mid-week fixture?

Jaysus I thought McKiernan was gone from this age-group. He will be some player for them this year. I'm presuming he will be the main man? If we get him and Givney back again at senior level they will become a serious force at MF.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on January 10, 2011, 05:19:58 PM
Why lyng starting the the first year of another degree fckn hell..he will be in college as long as jim mcguinness :D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BigMac on January 10, 2011, 05:31:46 PM
I dont think Lyng is starting another degree, but he has been college for 8 years already as far as I know. Maybe hes in his final year now of the 8, but i'm nearly sure he did 2x4 year degrees.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on January 10, 2011, 05:34:30 PM
Yeah you be right, he was in DIT for a few years doing business.. Not sure what he is studying in Dcu
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Ollie on January 10, 2011, 06:08:40 PM
Quote from: BigMac on January 10, 2011, 05:31:46 PM
I dont think Lyng is starting another degree, but he has been college for 8 years already as far as I know. Maybe hes in his final year now of the 8, but i'm nearly sure he did 2x4 year degrees.

Lyng is in his third year of a degree course in DCU now. He was injured this time last year and didnt play with them for the majority of the Sigerson cup. Cullivan graduated last year and is no longer in college.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on January 10, 2011, 08:16:39 PM
Johnny McBride training Killeshandra?? Jaysus they have enough disciplinary problems without letting that dirty tr**p manage them. I'll never forget what he was doing to Anthony Gaynor up in Celtic park in a qualifier a few years ago. A dirtier f**ker you'd never see. Anyway, like Dougal my undertanding was it was Tom Downes and Junior McKiernan that was managing them
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on January 11, 2011, 10:34:23 PM
All my dreams have come through a Cootehill man stops a Monaghan man getting his first win with the stonethrowers....

http://hoganstand.com/ArticleForm.aspx?ID=140464
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BigMac on January 12, 2011, 09:48:26 AM
I remember Josh as an underage player and would have played against him numerous times. He was a decent defender, very brave and hard working. Didn't he play county minor and maybe under 21 Celt Man? Would he be worth a run with the seniors as a corner back?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dougal on January 12, 2011, 10:24:01 AM
i saw him for the u 21s last year in a few of the challenge matches,he was quite good,and wasnt far off getting a starting place on the team,id say.doubt hes fit for senior yet,but could be an option in a few years.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: 118cmal on January 12, 2011, 01:28:44 PM
Apparently swad have won their appeal?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: PhilsJemmysField on January 12, 2011, 04:25:39 PM
Congratulations to Swad on beating Monaghan fair and square
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on January 12, 2011, 10:41:44 PM
Quote from: BigMac on January 12, 2011, 09:48:26 AM
I remember Josh as an underage player and would have played against him numerous times. He was a decent defender, very brave and hard working. Didn't he play county minor and maybe under 21 Celt Man? Would he be worth a run with the seniors as a corner back?

Aye played County Minor for 2 years and Under 21s for two years as well....  Aye I'd think he would be worth a look especially with such an exended panel that we have at present.  I suppose he is fit to play for UCD in the O'Byrne Cup - he couldn't be far for the standard at all
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: gortnaleck on January 13, 2011, 02:16:05 AM
And  he's a great fella as well. He was out in San Francisco this Summer and was a gentleman


Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on January 14, 2011, 03:38:29 PM
From Hoganstand.

Which fringe playerfs do we want to see?

Cavan depleted for opener

Cavan's Martin Cahill
14 January 2011


Cavan are set to be down a number of key players for tomorrow night's Dr McKenna Cup game against Derry at Kingspan Breffni Park.

Last year's captain Martin Cahill is still sidelined with a groin problem, while John McCutcheon and Dermot Sheridan are also set to miss out on the Oak Leafers' visit with shoulder and hand injuries, respectively.

The squad has also been hit by a 'flu bug recently, with midfielder Lorcan Mulvey and defender Padraig Cahill becoming the latest victims of the virus ahead of the Breffni men's 2011 opener.



"We would have liked the game against Queen's to have gone ahead last weekend, but it wasn't to be," Cavan co-manager Terry Hyland told the Irish Sun.

"The college teams are well-prepared at this time of year as they are gearing up for the Sigerson Cup.

"Derry will be strong and they have a new manager as well so he will be hoping to get some of their more seasoned players back and looking at new players as well."

Derry boss John Brennan is believed to be in line to start All Star pair Paddy Bradley and Kevin McCloy tomorrow night, while Hyland and co-manager Val Andrews will be looking to test out some of the squad's fringe players for the game.

"Every competition you enter, you want to try and win it but we will be using it to blood players," added the Lacken man.



Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BigMac on January 15, 2011, 09:39:46 AM
Any word on what the team will be?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Ollie on January 15, 2011, 09:39:49 PM
I heard they lost 1-10 - 1-12.. was anybody at it?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: whats my name on January 15, 2011, 09:59:54 PM
was at it poor first half cavan done better in the second fannin,corr,pierson,p Reilly all donevery well pierson got 2 great scores was like the pierson of old the way he took them they were very good he's bulked up alot as well very strong. cavan could of won the game only for the keeper was brutal kickouts terrible 3 points came off his bad kickouts as well as going to fist a ball that he didn't need to go for cost cavan a sloppy goal
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on January 15, 2011, 10:05:53 PM
I wasn't at it but I believe they played against the wind in the 1st half and were 8 points down at half time. At least it seems they put a bit of fight into the thing and sounds like they were just bet by a soft goal. Could've been a worse start given the amount of players missing.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up-again on January 15, 2011, 10:23:15 PM
Can anyone post the team?

Wouldn't be too concerned about the result tonight anyway. Nice to get our fella's back on the pitch. I'm gonna be very patient with Andrews and give him a chance to stamp his mark on the team.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: club_man on January 15, 2011, 10:32:14 PM
Heres the team:
   
                        James Reilly
Damien Reilly      Eoin Smith     Patrick Carroll
Dane O'Dowd     Alan Clarke      Stephen
               Padraig O'Reilly Ciaran Galligan
Keith Fannin      Anton Reilly     Ronan Flanagan
Paddy Gumely     Jelly               Mickey Brennan

As pointed out the wind had a huge bearing on game with Derry forwards on form in 1st. Cavan clawed in back well in 2nd half and great to see Pierson chipping in with 2 great points, he really is a top player when on form. Mossy Corr came on for Galligan and offered a lot more in terms of work rate and hard graft.

Still not sure on full back, don't think Eoin Smith is the man for this position. James Reilly made a great save before coming off injured and his replacement was terrible. Some desperate kickouts and caught in no mans land for the goal.

Overall could have been a worst start
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up-again on January 15, 2011, 10:42:19 PM
Quote from: club_man on January 15, 2011, 10:32:14 PM
Heres the team:
   
                        James Reilly
Damien Reilly      Eoin Smith     Patrick Carroll
Dane O'Dowd     Alan Clarke      Stephen
               Padraig O'Reilly Ciaran Galligan
Keith Fannin      Anton Reilly     Ronan Flanagan
Paddy Gumely     Jelly               Mickey Brennan

As pointed out the wind had a huge bearing on game with Derry forwards on form in 1st. Cavan clawed in back well in 2nd half and great to see Pierson chipping in with 2 great points, he really is a top player when on form. Mossy Corr came on for Galligan and offered a lot more in terms of work rate and hard graft.

Still not sure on full back, don't think Eoin Smith is the man for this position. James Reilly made a great save before coming off injured and his replacement was terrible. Some desperate kickouts and caught in no mans land for the goal.

Overall could have been a worst start

Who is the wingback named stephen clubman? I really wish Darren Smith got a chance in at FB. He has been consistent for Lavey over the last few years there. How did Anton Reilly fare? He has had a right amount of chances at this level by now...Also glad to see Fannin got a shot at WF. I remember two years he was sensational there for Drumgoon.

Who came in the goals for James? Was it Fintan Reilly?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: club_man on January 15, 2011, 10:52:32 PM
Sorry forgot, Stephen Jordan from Lavey.

Anton was poor and as you say has had a number of chances at this level, I don't think he is up to the required level.

The goalie was Davy Ward (never heard of him myself) and was poor. Fannin picked up a lot of ball and generally I thought he did ok, very hard working.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up-again on January 15, 2011, 11:04:10 PM
Quote from: club_man on January 15, 2011, 10:52:32 PM
Sorry forgot, Stephen Jordan from Lavey.

Anton was poor and as you say has had a number of chances at this level, I don't think he is up to the required level.

The goalie was Davy Ward (never heard of him myself) and was poor. Fannin picked up a lot of ball and generally I thought he did ok, very hard working.
?
Ah stephen is a decent player, what ever happened to Finbar does anyone know? Yeah i have never heard of that keeper now to be honest...Still disappointed with the lack of Gaels representation on the team. How did Patrick Carroll do clubman? I think he is the only man to come through from last years u21's.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: club_man on January 15, 2011, 11:15:41 PM
Butsy (Patrick Carroll) did fairly well I have to say, scored a nice point also. He could definitely be an option at corner back or even a stint at full back (where he has played for Ballinagh for a number of years). Jelly limped off but didn't seem serious. Remarkable that there's only 2 representatives from the 2 senior finalists and Alan Clarke would not be the best of the Kingscourt crop.

Actually I take that back there are 2 from Kingscourt. Barry Reilly came on as a blood sub which I think is wrong considering he is still u-21 and a fresher at College but he was only on for about 15 minutes.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Breffni_Yank on January 15, 2011, 11:24:16 PM
Quote from: club_man on January 15, 2011, 11:15:41 PM
Butsy (Patrick Carroll) did fairly well I have to say, scored a nice point also. He could definitely be an option at corner back or even a stint at full back (where he has played for Ballinagh for a number of years). Jelly limped off but didn't seem serious. Remarkable that there's only 2 representatives from the 2 senior finalists and Alan Clarke would not be the best of the Kingscourt crop.

Actually I take that back there are 2 from Kingscourt. Barry Reilly came on as a blood sub which I think is wrong considering he is still u-21 and a fresher at College but he was only on for about 15 minutes.

Are you sure on Barry? One on my mates said he played a full game with the u21's earlier today. Are the seniors that stuck for players at this time of year?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: club_man on January 15, 2011, 11:40:24 PM
100% sure on Barry, even announced over the pa system. Crazy considering he had already played today.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on January 15, 2011, 11:54:15 PM
Yeah barry Reilly did come on,sure he even got a point at the end. Pierson got two great points,he looked very lively when he came on,class act when he is on form. Gumley showed well for the ball and brennan was decent in spells. Ciaran galligan was poor at midfield,good to see they tried mossy corr at midfield i think he is suits that position better. Paddy bradley destroyed eoin smith at fb, dont think smith is up to it at county level. James mcenroe came on near the end,i think he will make it onto the team by the league. what club was davy ward from,his kickouts were terrible...
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on January 15, 2011, 11:57:56 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on January 15, 2011, 11:54:15 PM
Yeah barry Reilly did come on,sure he even got a point at the end. Pierson got two great points,he looked very lively when he came on,class act when he is on form. Gumley showed well for the ball and brennan was decent in spells. Ciaran galligan was poor at midfield,good to see they tried mossy corr at midfield i think he is suits that position better. Paddy bradley destroyed eoin smith at fb, dont think smith is up to it at county level. James mcenroe came on near the end,i think he will make it onto the team by the league. what club was davy ward from,his kickouts were terrible...

Thanks to all for the reports.

At least players are being played close to their club positions.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: club_man on January 16, 2011, 12:01:52 AM
As far as I know Davy is from Cootehill but I had always though Clegg was their keeper. Mc Enroe will be there or there abouts but needs to keep his cool. You could see him getting involved straight away as he came on tonight. Was very disappointed with Flanagan who saw little or none of the play. Might take him a while to get back into the swing of things considering it's his first year not playing ball in college.

Pierson on form will be a serious asset
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on January 16, 2011, 11:30:13 AM
Davy Ward is from Kill.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Western Blue on January 16, 2011, 07:23:41 PM
Traveled over for the game which  was played in driving rain and a gale blowing down towards the town end. It was a delight watching Paddy Bradley playing..with his runs and distribution.I don't think he wasted a ball all night and he and Conleth Gilligan got some great points in the first half.James  Reilly made a great save from a point blank shot and went off shortly afterwards....got the ball hard into his manhood ..sore thing! Replacement keeper couldn't cope kicking into the wind which helped Derry's to build up the 8 pt lead. Mossy Corr made big contribution when he came on into midfield and Keith Fannin looks the part at No 10.for the rest of the season..great engine.I thought Jelly looked unfit and didn't like the conditions and wanted to be somewhere warmer.Michael Brennan is a busy player but his first touch is cat.ie fumbling and spills ( over anxious when he sees the ball coming). Paddy Gumley and Alan Clarke deserve another run out against Monaghan on Wed.night. Great to see Gerry Pierson in a blue shirt again..still has the class. but still has some way to go to get up to the pace of today's game after been out for a number of years..hope he sticks at it and stays fit for the full season because he is needed. I thought Ronan Flanagan did ok last night. Would have been nice to have got a draw out of last night's game on the bases of a good fighting 2nd half performance.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on January 16, 2011, 08:22:01 PM
I was also at the game and was happy enough with the performance especially in the second half. 
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: beer baron on January 16, 2011, 08:30:30 PM
Quote from: Western Blue on January 16, 2011, 07:23:41 PM
Traveled over for the game which  was played in driving rain and a gale blowing down towards the town end. It was a delight watching Paddy Bradley playing..with his runs and distribution.I don't think he wasted a ball all night and he and Conleth Gilligan got some great points in the first half.James  Reilly made a great save from a point blank shot and went off shortly afterwards....got the ball hard into his manhood ..sore thing! Replacement keeper couldn't cope kicking into the wind which helped Derry's to build up the 8 pt lead. Mossy Corr made big contribution when he came on into midfield and Keith Fannin looks the part at No 10.for the rest of the season..great engine.I thought Jelly looked unfit and didn't like the conditions and wanted to be somewhere warmer.Michael Brennan is a busy player but his first touch is cat.ie fumbling and spills ( over anxious when he sees the ball coming). Paddy Gumley and Alan Clarke deserve another run out against Monaghan on Wed.night. Great to see Gerry Pierson in a blue shirt again..still has the class. but still has some way to go to get up to the pace of today's game after been out for a number of years..hope he sticks at it and stays fit for the full season because he is needed. I thought Ronan Flanagan did ok last night. Would have been nice to have got a draw out of last night's game on the bases of a good fighting 2nd half performance.

Agree with most of what you say except for 2 things, Flanagan- i felt for a player  of his calibre and experience he was poor last night and Mickey Brennan i think should definitely be kept in,shows well for the ball is strong and a very good place kicker!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: beer baron on January 17, 2011, 07:37:13 PM
Just looking at odds for tomorrow night and we're 8/11 favourites against Monaghan,what's the story there?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on January 17, 2011, 10:12:46 PM
Monaghan are missing a lot of lads for tomorrow so im not surprised cavan are at them odds. Though i think johnston is out so cavan will have to rely on a few others,hopefully pierson plays like he did when he cam on against derry. Fannin can claim a place on the team for the league with another decent performance.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on January 19, 2011, 06:19:53 PM
Quote from: drici on January 19, 2011, 05:02:14 PM
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Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: PhilsJemmysField on January 21, 2011, 03:48:29 PM
Any word on McKenna cup game for Saturday is it going ahead
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on January 22, 2011, 09:59:37 PM
Cavan won 12 to 1 - 4.  I can only give you half a match report as I could only see half the field with the fog.
Queens went 4 pts to 1 up before Cavan got 8 without reply.  Queens scored a very soft goal from a 13m free to bring  it back to 2 but Cavan pushed on afterwards.  They played good stuff but Queens were desperate.

Miller
P Carroll    Ted Smith   Stephen Jordan
Dane O'D   Toastie Clarke  Damien O'Reilly
            Podge
            Mossie Corr
Flanagan  Anton Reilly   Fannin
Bud Fitz   M Brennan  Ronan Reilly
Subs: McKeever; Pierson; Mackey; Cullivan;
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on January 25, 2011, 02:12:00 PM
From Hoganstand

Best of Luck Swad.

Where in/is Kenagh and whats the best way to go?

All-Ireland club JFC semi to go ahead

Swanlinbar's Gearoid McKiernan and Ballinabrackey's Damien Carroll will come face to face this Sunday in Kenagh.
25 January 2011


The GAA have fixed the All-Ireland club Junior Football Championship semi-final between Ballinabrackey (Meath) and Swanlinbar (Cavan) for this Sunday, January 30, at Kenagh, Longford (throw-in 2.30pm).

It ends speculation over the possibility of Corduff regaining their place in the last four of the All-Ireland series, after the Monaghan champions were stripped of their Ulster title earlier this month following an appeal from their final opponents Swanlinbar that they had fielded an illegal player in the decider at Kingspan Breffni Park in December.



The west Cavan club, who lost the game by 2-7 to 0-8, were awarded the title after the hearing found that a Corduff substitute, who scored a decisive goal in the game, was Under 16 last season and under GAA rules adult teams are not permitted to field Under 16 players.

As a result, the game was forfeited to Swad and despite rumours of an appeal from Corduff over the Ulster Council's ruling, it has been confirmed that the Cavan side will represent Ulster in this Sunday's All-Ireland semi-final against Meath champions Ballinabrackey, who defeated St Andrew's of Carlow in their respective provincial final last Sunday week.

The winners at Kenagh this weekend will secure their passage through to an All-Ireland final against either St Peter's (Lancashire) or St Mary's (Kerry) at Croke Park next month.



Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on January 25, 2011, 04:45:43 PM
Homer whats happening out in Ballinagh?? Mutiny I hear??
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Swadman on January 25, 2011, 08:23:27 PM
To to Keenagh, Longford: take the N63, Athlone Rd, out of Longford town. Take a left for Stonepark (R397) and straight on to Keenagh.

We can't be as bad as the last day !!!  ??
Heres hoping for a Croke Park final :o
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on January 25, 2011, 08:48:26 PM
Quote from: Swadman on January 25, 2011, 08:23:27 PM
To to Keenagh, Longford: take the N63, Athlone Rd, out of Longford town. Take a left for Stonepark (R397) and straight on to Keenagh.

We can't be as bad as the last day !!!  ??
Heres hoping for a Croke Park final :o

Best of luck.
Some lad over on Hoganstand was saying that Swad training has been poorly attended as  the players are not entirely happy with the way they got the title. Sounds like bull to me with a trip to Croke park the prize but was just wondering.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on January 25, 2011, 09:11:09 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on January 25, 2011, 08:48:26 PM
Quote from: Swadman on January 25, 2011, 08:23:27 PM
To to Keenagh, Longford: take the N63, Athlone Rd, out of Longford town. Take a left for Stonepark (R397) and straight on to Keenagh.

We can't be as bad as the last day !!!  ??
Heres hoping for a Croke Park final :o

Best of luck.
Some lad over on Hoganstand was saying that Swad training has been poorly attended as  the players are not entirely happy with the way they got the title. Sounds like bull to me with a trip to Croke park the prize but was just wondering.

Dont know why you bother reading that site it is full of WUMS.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dougal on January 25, 2011, 09:13:25 PM
Quote from: Swadman on January 25, 2011, 08:23:27 PM
To to Keenagh, Longford: take the N63, Athlone Rd, out of Longford town. Take a left for Stonepark (R397) and straight on to Keenagh.

We can't be as bad as the last day !!!  ??
Heres hoping for a Croke Park final :o

love to know how things are going for yis at the moment,any injury worries?ive been on to powers to see if i can get a price for yis to win it out.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Western Blue on January 25, 2011, 10:58:18 PM
No sign of David Givney on the Sligo I.T. football team this year...is he injured,, and no sign of Michael Lyng either with D.C.U...Big Lorcan must be ready to start...might get a game tomorrow night against Monaghan.. could collect his first Red card of the season?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on January 26, 2011, 12:32:45 PM
haha id say mulvey will mulvey might some sort of run out tonight.. Maybe lyng cant get a game with DCU,they have a some forward line :o either that or is could be injured yet again ??? i think cavan will win tonight and get a place in the semi finals..
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Western Blue on January 26, 2011, 05:48:35 PM
Derry have won the Group...they go forward to the semi-finals....Cavan using this game to have a look at the new players again in the squad..still a win away to monaghan will be good for confidence coming up to the start of the league.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on January 26, 2011, 07:05:25 PM
Quote from: Western Blue on January 26, 2011, 05:48:35 PM
Derry have won the Group...they go forward to the semi-finals....Cavan using this game to have a look at the new players again in the squad..still a win away to monaghan will be good for confidence coming up to the start of the league.

The best 2nd place team also makes the semi which is likely to go down to score difference. We'd have to win well.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on January 27, 2011, 10:41:21 AM
Was there a strong wind last night?  Amazing silmiilarity of scoring.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BigMac on January 27, 2011, 10:45:14 AM
I wasn't at the game but good to get another win. It was these types of games that for a few years Cavan have a habbit of throwing away. Having a lead and then when the fight back hits, crumbling and not holding out for the win. Could somebody who was at the game please give a short report of the game, or a link to where there is one? What kind of a team was out? Did the lads stick to the team from the last day or try and test out some new players?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: culchie11 on January 27, 2011, 11:01:08 AM
what the story with seanie johnston lads?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on January 27, 2011, 12:05:33 PM
Quote from: culchie11 on January 27, 2011, 11:01:08 AM
what the story with seanie johnston lads?

Re what?

Isn't he PE teacher at Breffni College?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: FermGael on January 27, 2011, 01:10:58 PM
Is he Seanie Johnsyon injured and if so will he be back playing in the league??
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Swadman on January 27, 2011, 05:18:16 PM
Thanks for the good wishes lads - I'm not closely involved but from what I hear, they are training hard  It's hard to get a group together at this time of year when they are scattered across the country but they are focused on getting to an All-Ireland final. There is a sour taste over the Ulster Final. They know they didn't perform on the day but will never know what would have happened if Corduff hadn't panicked and brought on their super sub when Swad got back to within a point.  Just heard too that Corduff lost their appeal to the CCCC in Croke Park
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: culchie11 on January 28, 2011, 09:40:58 AM
Yeah fermgael, thats what i meant, is seanie injured or being rested for mckenna cup?

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on January 28, 2011, 01:18:15 PM
Quote from: culchie11 on January 28, 2011, 09:40:58 AM
Yeah fermgael, thats what i meant, is seanie injured or being rested for mckenna cup?

He started the 1st McKenna game and went off injured. I don't know what is going on with him.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dougal on January 28, 2011, 01:54:15 PM
it's still horrid cold outside,he'll be back when it warms up a bit  ;D
being serious,i havent heard what the story is with him.was he any good in the first game?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on January 28, 2011, 02:27:02 PM
Quote from: Dougal on January 28, 2011, 01:54:15 PM
it's still horrid cold outside,he'll be back when it warms up a bit  ;D
being serious,i havent heard what the story is with him.was he any good in the first game?

Did he not only last a few minutes?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on January 28, 2011, 02:46:12 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on January 28, 2011, 02:27:02 PM
Quote from: Dougal on January 28, 2011, 01:54:15 PM
it's still horrid cold outside,he'll be back when it warms up a bit  ;D
being serious,i havent heard what the story is with him.was he any good in the first game?

Did he not only last a few minutes?

He is injured he hurt his ankle in the first game and went off at half time.  His man had beating off him any time the ball did go in though and he was being double marked. 
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dougal on January 28, 2011, 06:57:26 PM
PP offering 5/1 on swad for the all ireland.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: PhilsJemmysField on January 28, 2011, 08:35:44 PM
Best of luck to Swad would be great to see them get to Croker
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on January 28, 2011, 11:56:42 PM
Best of luck to Swad too
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on January 29, 2011, 09:38:46 PM
So Cavan will be playing Tyrone in the McKenna Cup final on Feb 12th. That should be a good test of how they are progressing. Tyrone seem to have a strong panel out, if Cavan can put in a good performance it will definitely give them a good boost going into the first few tough games in the League. 
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on January 29, 2011, 09:54:37 PM
It's a semi final westside.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on January 29, 2011, 10:21:44 PM
Sorry that was a typo!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on January 30, 2011, 03:27:33 PM
Half time, Swad and Ballinbrackey drawing in a very low scoring game.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on January 30, 2011, 04:42:01 PM
I believe swad won 0-5 to 0-4. 4 all at half time. Bizarre score. Well done to swad, success in the county is much needed.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on January 31, 2011, 11:43:17 AM
If you are in Dublin, go.

In a tense finale, Swanlinbar held on to book a final meeting with St Mary's (Kerry) at Croke Park on Saturday week.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Swadman on January 31, 2011, 07:07:06 PM
Ah Jeez.. to say it was a battle would be to say the first world war was a storm in a teacup. Ballianbrackey employed a blanket defense so on a narrow pitch there wasn't enough room to change your mind. They got off to a flyer with the first 2 points until Gearoid got through the wall for one in reply. Mark C got another from a tight angle. Robbie got a third from a free then they equalized to leave it 3 a piece at the the break. Every inch forward was warfare. It reminded me of rugby tactics - pick and drive, pick and drive.
I thought it would get loose in the 2nd half but no, if anything it was even more ferocious. They were very fit and tackled in packs but to be fair our back were just as tenacious though they went one up early in the 2nd half. With chances at a premium it was down to who could be cool under pressure. Step forward Robbie Prior - one from play and one from a free. They had chances to level it but was I cheering when their last free went wide in the 3rd minute of injury time.
So a day out in Croke Park beckons - every gaels dream, and sure who knows, our wildest dreams have already come true.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on January 31, 2011, 08:47:28 PM
Hope the lads are training hard.

semi final on the Wednesday so as the final can go ahead on the Sunday

http://www.teamtalkmag.com/?p=1902
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dougal on January 31, 2011, 09:03:27 PM
looks like they're not giving us much of a chance against tyrone,because,should we win they'll surely have to move the final due to the ali eland final being fixed for the same date?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on January 31, 2011, 09:05:07 PM
Quote from: Dougal on January 31, 2011, 09:03:27 PM
looks like they're not giving us much of a chance against tyrone,because,should we win they'll surely have to move the final due to the ali eland final being fixed for the same date?

Shouldnt make any difference ?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on February 04, 2011, 08:45:09 AM
I see Cavan Club merchandise has gone international - Celt man will be pleased...

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Worn-Shirt-Cootehill-Celtic-44-18-Jersey-Gaelic-Cavan-/170597429350?pt=UK_Sports_Memorabilia_ET&hash=item27b8663066
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on February 04, 2011, 10:02:36 AM
Cavan Team v Offaly


James Reilly
Padraig Cahill
Eoin Smith
Stephen Jordan
Dane O'Dowd
Alan Clarke
Damien O'Reilly
Thomas Corr
Padraig O'Reilly
Keith Fannin
Anton O'Reilly
Ronan Flanagan
Sean Johnston
Michael Brennan
Brendan Fitzpatric
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on February 04, 2011, 10:03:58 AM
Quote from: anglocelt39 on February 04, 2011, 10:02:36 AM
Cavan Team v Offaly


James Reilly
Padraig Cahill
Eoin Smith
Stephen Jordan
Dane O'Dowd
Alan Clarke
Damien O'Reilly
Thomas Corr
Padraig O'Reilly
Keith Fannin
Anton O'Reilly
Ronan Flanagan
Sean Johnston
Michael Brennan
Brendan Fitzpatric

Is that from an offical source or ripped from the hoganstand site?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on February 04, 2011, 11:38:59 AM
Quote from: tommysmith on February 04, 2011, 10:03:58 AM
Quote from: anglocelt39 on February 04, 2011, 10:02:36 AM
Cavan Team v Offaly


James Reilly
Padraig Cahill
Eoin Smith
Stephen Jordan
Dane O'Dowd
Alan Clarke
Damien O'Reilly
Thomas Corr
Padraig O'Reilly
Keith Fannin
Anton O'Reilly
Ronan Flanagan
Sean Johnston
Michael Brennan
Brendan Fitzpatric

Is that from an offical source or ripped from the hoganstand site?

Thats the team.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on February 04, 2011, 11:44:58 AM
Quote from: boojangles on February 04, 2011, 11:38:59 AM
Quote from: tommysmith on February 04, 2011, 10:03:58 AM
Quote from: anglocelt39 on February 04, 2011, 10:02:36 AM
Cavan Team v Offaly


James Reilly
Padraig Cahill
Eoin Smith
Stephen Jordan
Dane O'Dowd
Alan Clarke
Damien O'Reilly
Thomas Corr
Padraig O'Reilly
Keith Fannin
Anton O'Reilly
Ronan Flanagan
Sean Johnston
Michael Brennan
Brendan Fitzpatric

Is that from an offical source or ripped from the hoganstand site?

Thats the team.
Sticking with more or less the same as played in mckenna cup.#

Has Anton O'Reilly played league football before?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on February 04, 2011, 01:09:43 PM
Anton Reilly started the 3 games in the mckenna and was taken off in all 3 ??? he is a good player but if he wasnt playing well in the mckenna cup why is he starting sunday... thought pierson would have been starting, i would probaly agree with the rest of the team as their is players injured like sheridan,mc cutheon who would be playing if available.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: goldenyears on February 04, 2011, 01:38:04 PM
what sort of outfit are killeshandra lads? how did they fare in 2010??
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on February 04, 2011, 01:41:45 PM
Quote from: goldenyears on February 04, 2011, 01:38:04 PM
what sort of outfit are killeshandra lads? how did they fare in 2010??

Dirty outfit but an up and coming team in Cavan. 
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on February 04, 2011, 02:55:21 PM
Has McGuigan from Belturbet disappeared from the scene or is he injured. He was far from the worst of them last year and had a bit of physical presence which we don't tend to have a lot of. Probably the only players Tommy Carr could be accused of bringing on board were himself and Nesty
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on February 04, 2011, 03:32:06 PM
Yeah mcguigan was decent last year,dunno is he injured or not involved.. More than likely he is injured he would hardly have been dropped on last years form as he was pretty solid for the whole year.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Western Blue on February 04, 2011, 04:01:21 PM
Is 'Nesty' Smith making himself available for Cavan this year.  We could do with him going to Tullamore on Sunday  . Cant see us getting out with any points . At this moment staying in Div 3 for another year might be no harm with the new players on board. When can we expect D Giveny and G McKiernan to wear the No. 8 and 9 shirts for Cavan. I see Mayo have at least 6 students in their line-up against Down on Sat evening and we have none, Why I might ask?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on February 04, 2011, 04:19:12 PM
I'd imagine they are leaving Gearoid out because of his Club commitments and didn't Terry say U-21s would not be involved until after their Championship ended? Givney is injured as far as I know and who else does that leave that will be rejoining the panel from Colleges that aren't U-21?

With a different midfield and full back and perhaps Nesty on the 40 I'd imagine that's close enough to Cavan's strongest side?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on February 04, 2011, 04:27:11 PM
Lyng would be another,must be cup tied with dcu, barry watters is not u21 either..
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on February 04, 2011, 05:03:05 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on February 04, 2011, 08:45:09 AM
I see Cavan Club merchandise has gone international - Celt man will be pleased...

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Worn-Shirt-Cootehill-Celtic-44-18-Jersey-Gaelic-Cavan-/170597429350?pt=UK_Sports_Memorabilia_ET&hash=item27b8663066

Jaysus that's mental!!  No. 18 jersey - not mine though!!  ;D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Western Blue on February 04, 2011, 06:02:57 PM
Note your comments Westside....but have you any news on Nesty Smith...is he training,injured or gone. M.Lyng cant be cup tied if as I said other counties are playing students this weeknd. e.g. Aidan O'Shea Mayo (D.I.T) Alan Dillion Mayo (U.C.G) and David Kelly Sligo. (Sligo I.T.)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on February 04, 2011, 06:30:59 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on February 04, 2011, 04:27:11 PM
Lyng would be another,must be cup tied with dcu, barry watters is not u21 either..

How can a lad be cup tied for a legue game  :D .

Dont think watters is on panel.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on February 04, 2011, 07:13:54 PM
I was being sarcastic tommy ::)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on February 04, 2011, 07:16:15 PM
Quote from: tommysmith on February 04, 2011, 01:41:45 PM
Quote from: goldenyears on February 04, 2011, 01:38:04 PM
what sort of outfit are killeshandra lads? how did they fare in 2010??

Dirty outfit but an up and coming team in Cavan.

Did you ever tell us what your club is tommy?
Tommy forgot to add killeshandra have an extremely young team but they play in the senior league and intermediate championship.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on February 04, 2011, 07:57:02 PM
Quote from: Westside on February 04, 2011, 04:19:12 PM
I'd imagine they are leaving Gearoid out because of his Club commitments and didn't Terry say U-21s would not be involved until after their Championship ended? Givney is injured as far as I know and who else does that leave that will be rejoining the panel from Colleges that aren't U-21?

With a different midfield and full back and perhaps Nesty on the 40 I'd imagine that's close enough to Cavan's strongest side?
Hannon,McPhilips,McGuigan,Mulvey,McKeever,Sheridan,Mackey,Pearson,Brides,Cahill,Keating,Martin Reilly,Lyng,Gunner?????
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dougal on February 04, 2011, 08:26:46 PM
Quote from: goldenyears on February 04, 2011, 01:38:04 PM
what sort of outfit are killeshandra lads? how did they fare in 2010??

decent enough,been improving year on year for the last few.tend to be quite strong at this time of year.do yous have anyone of note other than murtagh?will he be playing?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Breffni_Yank on February 04, 2011, 08:41:40 PM
Quote from: Lawrence of Knockbride on February 04, 2011, 07:57:02 PM
Quote from: Westside on February 04, 2011, 04:19:12 PM
I'd imagine they are leaving Gearoid out because of his Club commitments and didn't Terry say U-21s would not be involved until after their Championship ended? Givney is injured as far as I know and who else does that leave that will be rejoining the panel from Colleges that aren't U-21?

With a different midfield and full back and perhaps Nesty on the 40 I'd imagine that's close enough to Cavan's strongest side?
Hannon,McPhilips,McGuigan,Mulvey,McKeever,Sheridan,Mackey,Pearson,Brides,Cahill,Keating,Martin Reilly,Lyng,Gunner?????

From what I was told this afternoon the ones in bold are on the bench this weekend. I dunno what to make of our chances this year at all,,I think im just gonna go with the flow and see how we get on! What time is the game Sunday?

Where is Nesty at this stage? I hope he is coming back in. I know he was injured but I hope he hasn't decided to throw it in with us..
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on February 04, 2011, 08:44:03 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on February 04, 2011, 07:16:15 PM
Quote from: tommysmith on February 04, 2011, 01:41:45 PM
Quote from: goldenyears on February 04, 2011, 01:38:04 PM
what sort of outfit are killeshandra lads? how did they fare in 2010??

Dirty outfit but an up and coming team in Cavan.

Did you ever tell us what your club is tommy?
Tommy forgot to add killeshandra have an extremely young team but they play in the senior league and intermediate championship.

I didnt Myles.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on February 04, 2011, 09:57:36 PM
Quote from: tommysmith on February 04, 2011, 08:44:03 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on February 04, 2011, 07:16:15 PM
Quote from: tommysmith on February 04, 2011, 01:41:45 PM
Quote from: goldenyears on February 04, 2011, 01:38:04 PM
what sort of outfit are killeshandra lads? how did they fare in 2010??

Dirty outfit but an up and coming team in Cavan.

Did you ever tell us what your club is tommy?
Tommy forgot to add killeshandra have an extremely young team but they play in the senior league and intermediate championship.

I didnt Myles.

Can you please tell us your club tommy?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on February 05, 2011, 12:03:35 AM
Quote from: tommysmith on February 04, 2011, 08:44:03 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on February 04, 2011, 07:16:15 PM
Quote from: tommysmith on February 04, 2011, 01:41:45 PM
Quote from: goldenyears on February 04, 2011, 01:38:04 PM
what sort of outfit are killeshandra lads? how did they fare in 2010??

Dirty outfit but an up and coming team in Cavan.

Did you ever tell us what your club is tommy?
Tommy forgot to add killeshandra have an extremely young team but they play in the senior league and intermediate championship.

I didnt Myles.


Guessing we can rule out the Shamrocks and the Leaguers at this stage, could be more to follow. ::)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: whats my name on February 05, 2011, 12:17:31 AM
nesty is available was training earlier in the year but got injured wont be back for a few weeks as far as i know
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on February 05, 2011, 02:11:29 PM
Quote from: anglocelt39 on February 05, 2011, 12:03:35 AM
Quote from: tommysmith on February 04, 2011, 08:44:03 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on February 04, 2011, 07:16:15 PM
Quote from: tommysmith on February 04, 2011, 01:41:45 PM
Quote from: goldenyears on February 04, 2011, 01:38:04 PM
what sort of outfit are killeshandra lads? how did they fare in 2010??

Dirty outfit but an up and coming team in Cavan.

Did you ever tell us what your club is tommy?
Tommy forgot to add killeshandra have an extremely young team but they play in the senior league and intermediate championship.

I didnt Myles.


Guessing we can rule out the Shamrocks and the Leaguers at this stage, could be more to follow. ::)

Why you say that?

What time is game at tomorrow?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Breffni_Yank on February 05, 2011, 08:19:52 PM
Here is the line-up and subs according to the Hoganstand;

Cavan (NFL v Offaly): J Reilly; P Cahill, E Smith, S Jordan; D O'Dowd, A Clarke, D O'Reilly; T Corr, P O'Reilly; K Fannin, A O'Reilly, R Flanagan; S Johnston, M Brennan, B Fitzpatrick.

Subs: A O'Mara, R Cullivan, J McCutcheon, M Cahill, M Reilly, M McKeever, G Pearson, E McGuigan, C Mackey, R Reilly, T Reilly.

Any word on how the u21's got on today in the Hastings Cup final?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on February 05, 2011, 08:57:37 PM
Quote from: tommysmith on February 05, 2011, 02:11:29 PM
Quote from: anglocelt39 on February 05, 2011, 12:03:35 AM
Quote from: tommysmith on February 04, 2011, 08:44:03 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on February 04, 2011, 07:16:15 PM
Quote from: tommysmith on February 04, 2011, 01:41:45 PM
Quote from: goldenyears on February 04, 2011, 01:38:04 PM
what sort of outfit are killeshandra lads? how did they fare in 2010??

Dirty outfit but an up and coming team in Cavan.

Did you ever tell us what your club is tommy?
Tommy forgot to add killeshandra have an extremely young team but they play in the senior league and intermediate championship.

I didnt Myles.


Guessing we can rule out the Shamrocks and the Leaguers at this stage, could be more to follow. ::)

Why you say that?

What time is game at tomorrow?

Don't worry about it tommy, you're not the first person on this thread to be too embarrassed to name your club. There was once a Mr Pain that was full of beans but couldn't reveal his club either  presumably in case he lost face.

Game is at 2-30 in Tullamore.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on February 05, 2011, 10:49:47 PM
Myles, sure if Tommy ain't willing to reveal his club I can do it for him in due course, always useful to know where lads are coming from and all that. clue number 1 it's an East Cavan outfit.

Appears we beat the Rossies in Hastings Cup final, take that and anything else on offer
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dougal on February 06, 2011, 12:14:03 AM
we beat the rossies 0-12 to 0-09 from  what ive heard.

who is t reilly on the bench tomorrow?cant think of anyone other than tomas.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on February 06, 2011, 12:17:39 PM
How is that lad the sub keeper now, i didnt think he played atall last year.

Not going to game today to much drink last nite


p.s Good craic with yas lads  :-*
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on February 06, 2011, 03:54:22 PM
Getting hammered in Tullamore 1-11 to 0-7 with a few minutes left.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on February 06, 2011, 03:58:00 PM
Same Shite, Different year.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on February 06, 2011, 07:05:15 PM
This was a game I would have penciled down as a must win, ridiculous I know being the 1st game, but Offaly are not a great team and I expect they'll be down the bottom half of the table when its getting to the business end. We have 4 away games, lost to the easiest team in those away matches and I have to say this looks bad for us even at this early stage.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Breffni_Yank on February 06, 2011, 08:06:38 PM
Oh sweet lord that was painful...How bad were our basic skills?especially our kickpassing.

Midfield we were brutal and the backs were chopped and changed around to no effect at all..The forwards were starved of decent ball.

Were any Cavan people at the game? I was behind the subs and felt like me and the two lads that went down in the same car were the only ones there...



Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up-again on February 06, 2011, 08:15:23 PM
At least the only way is up...
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on February 06, 2011, 08:19:12 PM
Quote from: put-it-up-again on February 06, 2011, 08:15:23 PM
At least the only way is up...

You might think that but things have being like this for years and they are not getting any better.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up-again on February 06, 2011, 08:23:08 PM
Quote from: tommysmith on February 06, 2011, 08:19:12 PM
Quote from: put-it-up-again on February 06, 2011, 08:15:23 PM
At least the only way is up...

You might think that but things have being like this for years and they are not getting any better.

With an attitude like that they certainly won't....
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on February 06, 2011, 09:00:49 PM
Quote from: put-it-up-again on February 06, 2011, 08:23:08 PM
Quote from: tommysmith on February 06, 2011, 08:19:12 PM
Quote from: put-it-up-again on February 06, 2011, 08:15:23 PM
At least the only way is up...

You might think that but things have being like this for years and they are not getting any better.

With an attitude like that they certainly won't....

Im just being real, things are not good.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up-again on February 06, 2011, 09:05:24 PM
Quote from: tommysmith on February 06, 2011, 09:00:49 PM
Quote from: put-it-up-again on February 06, 2011, 08:23:08 PM
Quote from: tommysmith on February 06, 2011, 08:19:12 PM
Quote from: put-it-up-again on February 06, 2011, 08:15:23 PM
At least the only way is up...

You might think that but things have being like this for years and they are not getting any better.

With an attitude like that they certainly won't....

Im just being real, things are not good.

No things certainly are not good at the moment but its not that long ago  that people in Antrim, Sligo and Roscommon were pulling their hair out at their team and look how they turned it around.

Cavan have been slipping lower and lower for the past few years. Eventually some group has to turn it around.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on February 06, 2011, 10:18:49 PM
I wasnt at it due to the Ulster Senior league,
But a 7 point beating with Cavan being completely outplayed throughout is a worrying start.
Can Anyone who was it give a review on who was dire,and the few who werent?

A Win in Round 2 is now critical.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Breffni_Yank on February 06, 2011, 10:57:14 PM
Not one player would honestly get a rating of 7 or above. It was just one of them days where everything bounced Offally's way etc. A really really bad start to the year, it was horrible to watch and it would make you think whether the team has been training at all over the last few weeks??

We were a shambles in the first half and looked all over the place in our backs. Only Offally forgot their shooting boots we woulda been cleaned out of it altogether. Is that 15 we had out really the best 15 in Cavan at the minute? I know I was out of the country over the summer but some of the players looked to have gone backwards big time

Offally had three lads just out of minor in their forwards. Where are all our young players? I see you trying to be positive PIUA but on that showing what on earth is their to be positive about?

James - Good to have him back but same old same old with the kickouts
Cahill - Got taken off at half-time. A bit harsh
Smith - Gone after 15 minutes. Dont know why?
Jordan - Lasted the full 70 but struggled IMO
O'Dowd - Was thrown back into the FB line for second half, stuggled there
Clarke - Went FB when Smith went off. Prob the only defender that should be there come championship
Damien Reilly - Tried hard and was honest. Gave it away once or twice but prob more down to the fact that there was no half-forward line at all
Podge - Again tried hard but he is not a midfielder. Would like to see him centre-back
McGuigan - Same as above, just not a midfielder
Flanagan - Did ok, scored one nice free
Anton Reilly - Completely anonymous. Think he was whipped at halftime
Fannin - Tried hard and should be given a run there. Dropped a little too deep at times but can improve
Johnson - Not one of his finer days.
Brennan - Scored one free of the deck would went off in the first half
Fitzpatrick - Won a lot of ball but didn't really do a lot with it. Worth a run there though
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on February 06, 2011, 11:08:27 PM
Thanks BY
The question with regards to is that the best 15 within the county?
Its not, that team that started,
Only Miller,Alan Clarke,Ronan Flanagan,Jelly,Fannin,Brennan IMO are definite starters come championship.

Pierson,McKeever,Cullivan came on,whom are better than what started,imo

Martin Cahill
Michael Hannon
Dermot Sheridan
John McCutcheon
Gearoid McKiernan
David Givney
Cian Mackey
Gareth Smith
Michael Lyng
Gunner(dont know if hes on the panel this year)

8/9/10 definite starters barring injury not available.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on February 06, 2011, 11:15:43 PM
I suppose management are trying ti give lads a real chance which maybe they didn't get last year. But at the same time we need to win a few games and stay up so the stronger players need to be brought back in asap.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on February 07, 2011, 12:03:46 AM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on February 06, 2011, 11:15:43 PM
I suppose management are trying ti give lads a real chance which maybe they didn't get last year. But at the same time we need to win a few games and stay up so the stronger players need to be brought back in asap.

Agree 100% Myles, There is a time for experimentation,but you dont experiment with 5 backs with little or no experience,even Alan Clarke the best defender we had starting today has little experience at this level and
2 midfielders,whom while both good footballers,are both no bigger than 6'1.
I overreacted two years ago around this time  ;D ,but we have more confidence in Andrews/Hyland that they will sort it out.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: beer baron on February 07, 2011, 10:57:13 AM
Quote from: tommysmith on February 06, 2011, 12:17:39 PM
How is that lad the sub keeper now, i didnt think he played atall last year.

Not going to game today to much drink last nite


p.s Good craic with yas lads  :-*
He wasn't,bad act! >:(
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on February 07, 2011, 12:08:04 PM
Quote from: beer baron on February 07, 2011, 10:57:13 AM
Quote from: tommysmith on February 06, 2011, 12:17:39 PM
How is that lad the sub keeper now, i didnt think he played atall last year.

Not going to game today to much drink last nite


p.s Good craic with yas lads  :-*
He wasn't,bad act! >:(

????
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up-again on February 07, 2011, 12:17:03 PM
Quote from: beer baron on February 07, 2011, 10:57:13 AM
Quote from: tommysmith on February 06, 2011, 12:17:39 PM
How is that lad the sub keeper now, i didnt think he played atall last year.

Not going to game today to much drink last nite


p.s Good craic with yas lads  :-*
He wasn't,bad act! >:(

Tommy my man, are you on something stronger than beer? You're not making much sense! ;D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Breffni_Yank on February 07, 2011, 12:36:43 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on February 06, 2011, 11:08:27 PM
Thanks BY
The question with regards to is that the best 15 within the county?
Its not, that team that started,
Only Miller,Alan Clarke,Ronan Flanagan,Jelly,Fannin,Brennan IMO are definite starters come championship.

Pierson,McKeever,Cullivan came on,whom are better than what started,imo

Martin Cahill
Michael Hannon
Dermot Sheridan
John McCutcheon
Gearoid McKiernan
David Givney
Cian Mackey
Gareth Smith
Michael Lyng
Gunner(dont know if hes on the panel this year)

8/9/10 definite starters barring injury not available.

You are right BHM, I didn't really realise so many were missing. Pierson showed glimpes of his old self at the weekend, I really hopes he gets a start against Tyrone on Wed.

I agree though that the rut we are in won't just turn around overnight but I'm willing to show abit of patience with Hyland and Val. What other choice do we have? Be interesting to see if any of the u21's can make a step up soon because a few there on show on Saturday really weren't good enough. Offally had 3 or 4 under 21's playing with them so why can't we? I must say I was impressed with their younger players. The lad that scored the goal was only out of minor I was told, so was their number 14 and 10 and they all caused us problems.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on February 07, 2011, 12:39:03 PM
Quote from: put-it-up-again on February 07, 2011, 12:17:03 PM
Quote from: beer baron on February 07, 2011, 10:57:13 AM
Quote from: tommysmith on February 06, 2011, 12:17:39 PM
How is that lad the sub keeper now, i didnt think he played atall last year.

Not going to game today to much drink last nite


p.s Good craic with yas lads  :-*
He wasn't,bad act! >:(

Tommy my man, are you on something stronger than beer? You're not making much sense! ;D

Who was sub keeper sunday?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up-again on February 07, 2011, 12:47:58 PM
Quote from: tommysmith on February 07, 2011, 12:39:03 PM
Quote from: put-it-up-again on February 07, 2011, 12:17:03 PM
Quote from: beer baron on February 07, 2011, 10:57:13 AM
Quote from: tommysmith on February 06, 2011, 12:17:39 PM
How is that lad the sub keeper now, i didnt think he played atall last year.

Not going to game today to much drink last nite


p.s Good craic with yas lads  :-*
He wasn't,bad act! >:(

Tommy my man, are you on something stronger than beer? You're not making much sense! ;D

Who was sub keeper sunday?

It was O'Mara from Bailieborough wasn't it? I think we should hook up for a pint and a chat soon Tommy ;)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on February 07, 2011, 12:54:03 PM
Quote from: put-it-up-again on February 07, 2011, 12:47:58 PM
Quote from: tommysmith on February 07, 2011, 12:39:03 PM
Quote from: put-it-up-again on February 07, 2011, 12:17:03 PM
Quote from: beer baron on February 07, 2011, 10:57:13 AM
Quote from: tommysmith on February 06, 2011, 12:17:39 PM
How is that lad the sub keeper now, i didnt think he played atall last year.

Not going to game today to much drink last nite


p.s Good craic with yas lads  :-*
He wasn't,bad act! >:(

Tommy my man, are you on something stronger than beer? You're not making much sense! ;D

Who was sub keeper sunday?

It was O'Mara from Bailieborough wasn't it? I think we should hook up for a pint and a chat soon Tommy ;)

Alright and what did you not understand about the bit in bold above?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up-again on February 07, 2011, 01:00:46 PM
Quote from: tommysmith on February 07, 2011, 12:54:03 PM
Quote from: put-it-up-again on February 07, 2011, 12:47:58 PM
Quote from: tommysmith on February 07, 2011, 12:39:03 PM
Quote from: put-it-up-again on February 07, 2011, 12:17:03 PM
Quote from: beer baron on February 07, 2011, 10:57:13 AM
Quote from: tommysmith on February 06, 2011, 12:17:39 PM
How is that lad the sub keeper now, i didnt think he played atall last year.

Not going to game today to much drink last nite


p.s Good craic with yas lads  :-*
He wasn't,bad act! >:(

Tommy my man, are you on something stronger than beer? You're not making much sense! ;D

Who was sub keeper sunday?

It was O'Mara from Bailieborough wasn't it? I think we should hook up for a pint and a chat soon Tommy ;)

Alright and what did you not understand about the bit in bold above?

That part of the message was the only bit I understand and you're right, he didn't play at all last year.

I just didn't really get what you were getting at with end of your post? Perhaps i'm not picking up on your strange sense of humour?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on February 07, 2011, 01:02:46 PM
Quote from: put-it-up-again on February 07, 2011, 01:00:46 PM
Quote from: tommysmith on February 07, 2011, 12:54:03 PM
Quote from: put-it-up-again on February 07, 2011, 12:47:58 PM
Quote from: tommysmith on February 07, 2011, 12:39:03 PM
Quote from: put-it-up-again on February 07, 2011, 12:17:03 PM
Quote from: beer baron on February 07, 2011, 10:57:13 AM
Quote from: tommysmith on February 06, 2011, 12:17:39 PM
How is that lad the sub keeper now, i didnt think he played atall last year.

Not going to game today to much drink last nite


p.s Good craic with yas lads  :-*
He wasn't,bad act! >:(

Tommy my man, are you on something stronger than beer? You're not making much sense! ;D

Who was sub keeper sunday?

It was O'Mara from Bailieborough wasn't it? I think we should hook up for a pint and a chat soon Tommy ;)

Alright and what did you not understand about the bit in bold above?

That part of the message was the only bit I understand and you're right, he didn't play at all last year.

I just didn't really get what you were getting at with end of your post? Perhaps i'm not picking up on your strange sense of humour?

That was aimed at someone else  :D

Is O'Mara still U-21?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up-again on February 07, 2011, 01:07:03 PM
I honestly don't get you at all Tommy but yes he is. Are you still to embarrassed to share your club?

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on February 07, 2011, 01:09:49 PM
Quote from: put-it-up-again on February 07, 2011, 01:07:03 PM
I honestly don't get you at all Tommy but yes he is. Are you still to embarrassed to share your club?

You dont get me talking about football on a football discussion board  ???

EDIT: PM me if you have a problem so not to clutter the board.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: beer baron on February 07, 2011, 02:15:37 PM
Quote from: tommysmith on February 07, 2011, 12:08:04 PM
Quote from: beer baron on February 07, 2011, 10:57:13 AM
Quote from: tommysmith on February 06, 2011, 12:17:39 PM
How is that lad the sub keeper now, i didnt think he played atall last year.

Not going to game today to much drink last nite


p.s Good craic with yas lads  :-*
He wasn't,bad act! >:(

????

A lad thats been training hard all winter got dropped for a lad only in basically!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Breffni_Yank on February 07, 2011, 02:24:35 PM
Quote from: beer baron on February 07, 2011, 02:15:37 PM
Quote from: tommysmith on February 07, 2011, 12:08:04 PM
Quote from: beer baron on February 07, 2011, 10:57:13 AM
Quote from: tommysmith on February 06, 2011, 12:17:39 PM
How is that lad the sub keeper now, i didnt think he played atall last year.

Not going to game today to much drink last nite


p.s Good craic with yas lads  :-*
He wasn't,bad act! >:(

????

A lad thats been training hard all winter got dropped for a lad only in basically!

Am i missing something here? I have read these few posts a few times and its still not making any sense. Can you shed some light lads?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: beer baron on February 07, 2011, 02:53:26 PM
Quote from: Breffni_Yank on February 07, 2011, 02:24:35 PM
Quote from: beer baron on February 07, 2011, 02:15:37 PM
Quote from: tommysmith on February 07, 2011, 12:08:04 PM
Quote from: beer baron on February 07, 2011, 10:57:13 AM
Quote from: tommysmith on February 06, 2011, 12:17:39 PM
How is that lad the sub keeper now, i didnt think he played atall last year.

Not going to game today to much drink last nite


p.s Good craic with yas lads  :-*
He wasn't,bad act! >:(

????

A lad thats been training hard all winter got dropped for a lad only in basically!

Am i missing something here? I have read these few posts a few times and its still not making any sense. Can you shed some light lads?

Sub keeper yesterday only recently joined the squad,Davy Ward was dropped!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Breffni_Yank on February 07, 2011, 03:06:50 PM
Quote from: beer baron on February 07, 2011, 02:53:26 PM
Quote from: Breffni_Yank on February 07, 2011, 02:24:35 PM
Quote from: beer baron on February 07, 2011, 02:15:37 PM
Quote from: tommysmith on February 07, 2011, 12:08:04 PM
Quote from: beer baron on February 07, 2011, 10:57:13 AM
Quote from: tommysmith on February 06, 2011, 12:17:39 PM
How is that lad the sub keeper now, i didnt think he played atall last year.

Not going to game today to much drink last nite


p.s Good craic with yas lads  :-*
He wasn't,bad act! >:(

????

A lad thats been training hard all winter got dropped for a lad only in basically!

Am i missing something here? I have read these few posts a few times and its still not making any sense. Can you shed some light lads?

Sub keeper yesterday only recently joined the squad,Davy Ward was dropped!

Ah ok beer baron I get you now, didn't know what ye were talking about for a while. Im sure Ward is rightly pissed off then if that is the case. He only got that one run out in the McKenna Cup I presume and even if he did play poorly thats very harsh.. We played Bailieborough in the league last year but he wasn't in goals that day anyway. Maybe he was back in with them for the championship but I was gone by that stage.. Perhaps put it up again can shed some light?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on February 07, 2011, 08:05:39 PM
Does anyone know for sure that the lad didn't leave the panel himself after that performance in the McKenna cup? I don't know but just asking.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: beer baron on February 07, 2011, 08:45:03 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on February 07, 2011, 08:05:39 PM
Does anyone know for sure that the lad didn't leave the panel himself after that performance in the McKenna cup? I don't know but just asking.

Yeah he was dropped,bad debut but he is a good keeper!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on February 09, 2011, 01:01:43 PM
Meant to be the team for tonight's game. Suspect/hope there could be a few changes - Toastie at corner back?? Where did Niall Murray come from?

All change for Cavan

08 February 2011

Following their heavy Allianz FL loss in Tullamore, Cavan will field a much changed side for Wednesday's McKenna Cup semi-final against Tyrone.

A 1-12 to 0-8 Division 2 reverse to Offaly was not what new joint managers Terry Hyland and Val Andrews expected on their return to the management setup and hey have wielded the axe before the game against the O'Neill County.

Half the defence make way with Patrick Carroll, Mark McKeever and John McCutcheon called up while Ray Cullivan, who came on as a substitute against Offaly, now starts in midfield.

Gerard Pierson and Niall Murray line out at full forward and centre forward respectively.

Cavan (McKenna Cup semi-final v Tyrone) - J Reilly, A Clarke, Patrick Carroll, S Jordan, M McKeever, J McCutcheon, D O'Reilly, R Cullivan, P O'Reilly, K Fannin, N Murray, R Flanagan, S Johnston, G Pierson, B Fitzpatrick.

Subs: A O'Mara, A O'Reilly, P Gumley, B Reilly, O Minagh, P Cahill, D O'Dowd, E McGuigan, K Meehan, D Sheridan.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BigMac on February 09, 2011, 02:42:21 PM
Very strange to see Clarke at corner back. I can see a Tyrone fullforward line humiliating that full back line. Just looking through the squad, surely K Meehan isn't Kevin Meehan from the gaels. Grand young footballer, but county senior panelist, I dont think so. Also I always thought Stephen Jordan was a half forward, I hope they aren't going to do a "Keith Fannin" on him and just play him corner back even he would rather be a forward and is a better forward. I know there is a few injuries, lads with colleges and u-21's but if that is the best team we can put, out it's a sad day. Damien Reilly is only a middling defender IMHO, and Podge is a good trier but too slow, definitely not cut out for intercounty midfield. Likewise, Celt Man, this is the first I've heard of Niall Murray being on the panel, and he starts at CF against Tyrone? He could be marking someone like Conor Gormely or McMenamin! Surely he could have been tried a bit earlier, or maybe he was and I missed it. Full forward line and wing forwards are ok, but would have concerns about every other position. Reading back over this it seems like i'm being very negative, but I'm really not trying to be.  :-\
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on February 09, 2011, 04:11:41 PM
Quote from: BigMac on February 09, 2011, 02:42:21 PM
Very strange to see Clarke at corner back. I can see a Tyrone fullforward line humiliating that full back line. Just looking through the squad, surely K Meehan isn't Kevin Meehan from the gaels. Grand young footballer, but county senior panelist, I dont think so. Also I always thought Stephen Jordan was a half forward, I hope they aren't going to do a "Keith Fannin" on him and just play him corner back even he would rather be a forward and is a better forward. I know there is a few injuries, lads with colleges and u-21's but if that is the best team we can put, out it's a sad day. Damien Reilly is only a middling defender IMHO, and Podge is a good trier but too slow, definitely not cut out for intercounty midfield. Likewise, Celt Man, this is the first I've heard of Niall Murray being on the panel, and he starts at CF against Tyrone? He could be marking someone like Conor Gormely or McMenamin! Surely he could have been tried a bit earlier, or maybe he was and I missed it. Full forward line and wing forwards are ok, but would have concerns about every other position. Reading back over this it seems like i'm being very negative, but I'm really not trying to be.  :-\

Well if you could name some replacements for those positions with people that are available and willing to play then I wouldn't say you are negative but you didn't so maybe you are? All they can do is put out the best of what is available to them and if its not good enough what can be done.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on February 09, 2011, 06:15:44 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on February 09, 2011, 04:11:41 PM
Quote from: BigMac on February 09, 2011, 02:42:21 PM
Very strange to see Clarke at corner back. I can see a Tyrone fullforward line humiliating that full back line. Just looking through the squad, surely K Meehan isn't Kevin Meehan from the gaels. Grand young footballer, but county senior panelist, I dont think so. Also I always thought Stephen Jordan was a half forward, I hope they aren't going to do a "Keith Fannin" on him and just play him corner back even he would rather be a forward and is a better forward. I know there is a few injuries, lads with colleges and u-21's but if that is the best team we can put, out it's a sad day. Damien Reilly is only a middling defender IMHO, and Podge is a good trier but too slow, definitely not cut out for intercounty midfield. Likewise, Celt Man, this is the first I've heard of Niall Murray being on the panel, and he starts at CF against Tyrone? He could be marking someone like Conor Gormely or McMenamin! Surely he could have been tried a bit earlier, or maybe he was and I missed it. Full forward line and wing forwards are ok, but would have concerns about every other position. Reading back over this it seems like i'm being very negative, but I'm really not trying to be.  :-\

Well if you could name some replacements for those positions with people that are available and willing to play then I wouldn't say you are negative but you didn't so maybe you are? All they can do is put out the best of what is available to them and if its not good enough what can be done.

I wont be judging anyone on this game.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dougal on February 09, 2011, 07:29:39 PM
id rate that team higher than the team that started at the weekend.a few big names in the tyrone team but its not that great a team,no reason cavan cant win this.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on February 09, 2011, 07:44:47 PM
Anyone with updates for those of us that couldn't make it?

Edit: Live updates here lads, Cavan lead by 2 points: http://www.teamtalkmag.com/?p=2056
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on February 10, 2011, 10:28:19 AM
From the GAA board.  Sounds like we gave it a good rattle.

From teamtalk:

Tyrone overcame a resolute Cavan side tonight in Brewster Park thanks to two very timely second half goals and thus qualified for Saturday night's final. They will now face a Derry side brimming with confidence following their opening league win over the Red Hands.

Tyrone struggled at times tonight with Cavan's aggression and commitment and trailed by four points at the break ten points to six. However they could have been handsomely ahead at half time had they capitalised on the three goal chances that they created in the opening thirty five minutes. Martin Penrose, Brian Mc Guigan and Mark Donnelly all came close to netting majors but great work by James Reilly in the Cavan goal prevented Tyrone from finding the net.

Cavan began the second half well but Tyrone hit them with two goals, the first a penalty from Martin Penrose after a foul on Mark Donnelly. Cavan were reduced to fourteen men after Syephen Jordan was sent off in that incident. Patrick Mc Niece then finished a fine move to the net four minutes later and Tyrone looked home and hosed. However Cavan refused to buckle and with Ray Cullivan driving them on and just three points between the sides they pushed hard for a goal which would have drawn them level. Fortunately for Tyrone some fine late scores from Stevie O'Neill and Kevin Hughes saw Mickey Harte's side through to Saturday night's final on a score line of 2-11 to 0-14.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on February 10, 2011, 02:39:07 PM
We gave it a good go surely and had Tyrone rattled for the majority of the game...  Penalty was a harsh decision and the second yellow for it was a poor call.  Second goal knocked the arse out of thing altogether.

I'll compose myself and add to my thoughts later
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Breffni_Yank on February 10, 2011, 08:02:51 PM
Quote from: Celt_Man on February 09, 2011, 01:01:43 PM
Meant to be the team for tonight's game. Suspect/hope there could be a few changes - Toastie at corner back?? Where did Niall Murray come from?

All change for Cavan

08 February 2011

Following their heavy Allianz FL loss in Tullamore, Cavan will field a much changed side for Wednesday's McKenna Cup semi-final against Tyrone.

A 1-12 to 0-8 Division 2 reverse to Offaly was not what new joint managers Terry Hyland and Val Andrews expected on their return to the management setup and hey have wielded the axe before the game against the O'Neill County.

Half the defence make way with Patrick Carroll, Mark McKeever and John McCutcheon called up while Ray Cullivan, who came on as a substitute against Offaly, now starts in midfield.

Gerard Pierson and Niall Murray line out at full forward and centre forward respectively.

Cavan (McKenna Cup semi-final v Tyrone) - J Reilly, A Clarke, Patrick Carroll, S Jordan, M McKeever, J McCutcheon, D O'Reilly, R Cullivan, P O'Reilly, K Fannin, N Murray, R Flanagan, S Johnston, G Pierson, B Fitzpatrick.

Subs: A O'Mara, A O'Reilly, P Gumley, B Reilly, O Minagh, P Cahill, D O'Dowd, E McGuigan, K Meehan, D Sheridan.

Couldn't make last nights game but all accounts said it was a spirited performance..though at the same time I suppose we did have th lead and threw it away again.

The management seemed to have come to the idea that the panel needs new blood judging by what I see from above. Where did the sudden inclusion of the 21's come from? Am I right in saying the the six I have put in bold above are still u21 this year? I can see some of you have questioned their inclusion already but I really would rather them lads in there instead of some of the dead wood that have been on the panel over the past few years.. You would hope that lads that age could bring in a fresh impetus

Does anyone have a copy of our bench during last year's championship. I'm just interested to see who was there and who has been dropped or quit
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on February 10, 2011, 08:36:55 PM
While we'd all like to protect the U21's it seems to me that management have little choice but to play some of them if they want to stay in Div 3. Any word on Givney and keating?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Breffni_Yank on February 10, 2011, 09:14:28 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on February 10, 2011, 08:36:55 PM
While we'd all like to protect the U21's it seems to me that management have little choice but to play some of them if they want to stay in Div 3. Any word on Givney and keating?

All I know is that both of them were involved with Sligo IT.. after that I haven't a clue. Be fantastic if we can get Givney back into midfield. Been hearing McKiernan is flying with Swanlinbar too at the moment but I'm not fully convinced by him just yet.

I'm not sure if we can look at them to keep us up just yet Myles but I do feel them training with the seniors will bring on both groups rather than the seniors just going through the motions with the same panel they had for the last few years that have consistently failed.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on February 10, 2011, 09:21:21 PM
Right so here it is....

Tyrone got the first couple of scores but once Cavan got up and running - they were pretty much in control of the game up to ten minutes into the second half when they got the peno...

Cavan were very impressive in the first half especially, out-fought and out-musclued Tyrone for the vast majority of the 50/50 and dirty ball.  They turned over a fare amount of Tyrone attacks and had a few eye catching blocks too.  Having said all that Miller pulled off 2 fairly smart saves but it was certainly against the run of play.  Tyrone hit a decent number of wides and had missed passes in the 1st half and to my eye they looked fairly rattled.  Mickey wasn't long whipping a few boys off and Stephen O'Neill came on after 15 mins.

Cavan had a deserved four point lead at half time 10 pts to 6 having played some slick football on a heavy pitch.  We got the first score of the second half and Tyrone were still looking out of sorts when one of their corner forward lost control of the ball when Stephen Jordan ran into him.  Harsh call for the penalty, bad call to give him a second yellow.  They score, lead cut to 2 pts and down to 14.  2 minutes later, lost ball in defence from sideline kick, Tyrone had 4 on 2 and another goal went in.

Cavan went from crusing 5 points up to 4 minutes later down to 14 men and losing by a point - second goal was a real sickener...  Even then Tyrone weren't playing great stuff and they only pulled away in the final few minutes after we missed a chance to level the game...

Wouldn't be as harsh to say Cavan threw it away, they certainly were unlucky and if the spirit of their performances matches that game - I'm not going to worry much
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up-again on February 10, 2011, 09:31:19 PM
Quote from: Celt_Man on February 10, 2011, 09:21:21 PM
Right so here it is....

Tyrone got the first couple of scores but once Cavan got up and running - they were pretty much in control of the game up to ten minutes into the second half when they got the peno...

Cavan were very impressive in the first half especially, out-fought and out-musclued Tyrone for the vast majority of the 50/50 and dirty ball.  They turned over a fare amount of Tyrone attacks and had a few eye catching blocks too.  Having said all that Miller pulled off 2 fairly smart saves but it was certainly against the run of play.  Tyrone hit a decent number of wides and had missed passes in the 1st half and to my eye they looked fairly rattled.  Mickey wasn't long whipping a few boys off and Stephen O'Neill came on after 15 mins.

Cavan had a deserved four point lead at half time 10 pts to 6 having played some slick football on a heavy pitch.  We got the first score of the second half and Tyrone were still looking out of sorts when one of their corner forward lost control of the ball when Stephen Jordan ran into him.  Harsh call for the penalty, bad call to give him a second yellow.  They score, lead cut to 2 pts and down to 14.  2 minutes later, lost ball in defence from sideline kick, Tyrone had 4 on 2 and another goal went in.

Cavan went from crusing 5 points up to 4 minutes later down to 14 men and losing by a point - second goal was a real sickener...  Even then Tyrone weren't playing great stuff and they only pulled away in the final few minutes after we missed a chance to level the game...

Wouldn't be as harsh to say Cavan threw it away, they certainly were unlucky and if the spirit of their performances matches that game - I'm not going to worry much

For years all people have wanted was hunger and pride in the jersey. We have been given false dawn's like this before but it shows what our boy's our capable of doing when they knuckle down and decide they want to give a 100%. Let's hope this is the real start to our year
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on February 10, 2011, 09:43:21 PM
Quote from: put-it-up-again on February 10, 2011, 09:31:19 PM
Quote from: Celt_Man on February 10, 2011, 09:21:21 PM
Right so here it is....

Tyrone got the first couple of scores but once Cavan got up and running - they were pretty much in control of the game up to ten minutes into the second half when they got the peno...

Cavan were very impressive in the first half especially, out-fought and out-musclued Tyrone for the vast majority of the 50/50 and dirty ball.  They turned over a fare amount of Tyrone attacks and had a few eye catching blocks too.  Having said all that Miller pulled off 2 fairly smart saves but it was certainly against the run of play.  Tyrone hit a decent number of wides and had missed passes in the 1st half and to my eye they looked fairly rattled.  Mickey wasn't long whipping a few boys off and Stephen O'Neill came on after 15 mins.

Cavan had a deserved four point lead at half time 10 pts to 6 having played some slick football on a heavy pitch.  We got the first score of the second half and Tyrone were still looking out of sorts when one of their corner forward lost control of the ball when Stephen Jordan ran into him.  Harsh call for the penalty, bad call to give him a second yellow.  They score, lead cut to 2 pts and down to 14.  2 minutes later, lost ball in defence from sideline kick, Tyrone had 4 on 2 and another goal went in.

Cavan went from crusing 5 points up to 4 minutes later down to 14 men and losing by a point - second goal was a real sickener...  Even then Tyrone weren't playing great stuff and they only pulled away in the final few minutes after we missed a chance to level the game...

Wouldn't be as harsh to say Cavan threw it away, they certainly were unlucky and if the spirit of their performances matches that game - I'm not going to worry much

For years all people have wanted was hunger and pride in the jersey. We have been given false dawn's like this before but it shows what our boy's our capable of doing when they knuckle down and decide they want to give a 100%. Let's hope this is the real start to our year

Aye there was a boy in front of me who said at half time he wasn't worried about the result because he was so impressed with the first half perforrmance given what happened in Tullamore on Sunday
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on February 10, 2011, 11:39:22 PM
It goes to show that Cavan are no pushovers, when they want to stand up and give it hell they can do it. I heard Cullivan was immense. Himself and Givney at Midfield does seem a lot more promising than past partnerships, for example Walsh and Galligan. Cavan need to put in this effort every time they take the field if they are going to be winners.

I wonder will Hyland address his playing of the U-21s and why he has changed his idea? Does he want to give the lads good competitive football before the U-21 Championship? He is being very vocal and honest to the media which is refreshing. McKiernan will be playing in Croker on Saturday which will do his development the world of good. I would be very worried about him hitting a wall. Since the beginning of the U-21s last year he hasn't stopped, Club County and College all going far..
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: gortnaleck on February 11, 2011, 01:36:59 AM
McKiernan will be alright,sure he spent the Summer on the beaches in California
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: PhilsJemmysField on February 11, 2011, 02:53:03 PM
best of luck to swad. Will be tough to beat any Kerry team but here is hoping they start off the year with an ALL Ireland
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on February 11, 2011, 06:11:16 PM
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/northern_ireland/gaelic_games/9391556.stm



hope the link works if not BBC northern ireland sport will get you to about 4 minutes of highlights from Wednesday nights match. Agree with Celt man that the penalty looked soft and the second goal also had an element of luck to it. Couple of lovely looking scores from Cullivan and the Gowna man
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on February 12, 2011, 06:46:48 PM
Swad beaten 3 -13 to 1-5 according to the lastest scores thread...  :(
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on February 12, 2011, 07:42:51 PM
Hard luck to Swad, with a score like that there can be no doubt that the best team won.

Anglocelt - I just watched that video, jasus that penalty was a joke. Some nice scores by pierson in there too.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Babe Ruth 47 on February 13, 2011, 10:08:05 AM
Some more good news on top of what seems like a good performance by Cavan during the week, friend was at the game, thought Cullivan ws emense.

St Pats are through to the Cor na nOg final, due to be played this week.  I think it's the next grade up from the Team who won the Dalton last year. Great to see a team of lads from Cavan, no matter how young, competing at the top table in Ulster.


News
CAVAN THROUGH TO CORN NA NOG FINAL
Wed 9th Feb 2011

BT Corn na nÓg semi-final :
St Patrick's Cavan        5-10     Abbey CBS     3-4
St Patrick's Cavan conceded two goals in the opening 90 second of this Corn na nÓg semi-final in Tyholland but powered their way back into contention to claim a place in the final against Omagh CBS.
Sheagh Dobbin and Ryan Trainor bagged those early Abbey goals, but a goal from Daragh Gannon and two from Paul Leddy – the second a bit of a goal-mouth scramble – put Cavan in control before the break.
Although they conceded a second Dobbin goal right on half-time, they still led by 3-4 to 3-2 and held the Abbey to just 2 pointed frees during the second half.
Gannon fired home his second goal early in the second half and Paul Sexton's three-pointer in the 49th minute left the Cavan side coasting home.
Meanwhile St Malachy's Belfast completed the BT Loch an Iúir semi-final line-up, by surviving a goal fest against St Patrick's Keady in yesterday's quarter-final.
St Malachy's won 5-16 to 3-8, and now face another south Armagh school, St Paul's Bessbrook, in the semi-final, while Patrician Carrickmacross and Rathmore Grammar are already lined up in the other semi-final.
St Patrick's Cavan : Paul Leddy 2-2, Daragh Gannon 2-1, Paul Sexton 1-1, Ben Conaty 0-2, Colin McCabe 0-2, Brian Connolly 0-1, Pearse Smyth 0-1.
Abbey : Sheagh Dobbin 2-0, Ryan Trainer 1-2, Cillian McEvoy 0-3.
Submitted by: Seamus McAleenan
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on February 13, 2011, 11:38:04 AM
Quote from: Babe Ruth 47 on February 13, 2011, 10:08:05 AM
Some more good news on top of what seems like a good performance by Cavan during the week, friend was at the game, thought Cullivan ws emense.

St Pats are through to the Cor na nOg final, due to be played this week.  I think it's the next grade up from the Team who won the Dalton last year. Great to see a team of lads from Cavan, no matter how young, competing at the top table in Ulster.


News
CAVAN THROUGH TO CORN NA NOG FINAL
Wed 9th Feb 2011

BT Corn na nÓg semi-final :
St Patrick's Cavan        5-10     Abbey CBS     3-4
St Patrick's Cavan conceded two goals in the opening 90 second of this Corn na nÓg semi-final in Tyholland but powered their way back into contention to claim a place in the final against Omagh CBS.
Sheagh Dobbin and Ryan Trainor bagged those early Abbey goals, but a goal from Daragh Gannon and two from Paul Leddy – the second a bit of a goal-mouth scramble – put Cavan in control before the break.
Although they conceded a second Dobbin goal right on half-time, they still led by 3-4 to 3-2 and held the Abbey to just 2 pointed frees during the second half.
Gannon fired home his second goal early in the second half and Paul Sexton's three-pointer in the 49th minute left the Cavan side coasting home.
Meanwhile St Malachy's Belfast completed the BT Loch an Iúir semi-final line-up, by surviving a goal fest against St Patrick's Keady in yesterday's quarter-final.
St Malachy's won 5-16 to 3-8, and now face another south Armagh school, St Paul's Bessbrook, in the semi-final, while Patrician Carrickmacross and Rathmore Grammar are already lined up in the other semi-final.
St Patrick's Cavan : Paul Leddy 2-2, Daragh Gannon 2-1, Paul Sexton 1-1, Ben Conaty 0-2, Colin McCabe 0-2, Brian Connolly 0-1, Pearse Smyth 0-1.
Abbey : Sheagh Dobbin 2-0, Ryan Trainer 1-2, Cillian McEvoy 0-3.
Submitted by: Seamus McAleenan

Great news. Yes that is more or less the same panel who won the Dalton Cup last year. Hopefully they can keep progressing. Some fine footballers on that team.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: club_man on February 16, 2011, 01:46:07 PM
Things very quiet on here lads. I see on hoganstand that we are retaining the same team as the Mc Kenna Cup semi-final. Seems to be the logical decision. Its important to push on and get a victory in this game but Westmeath will be no pushover although by all accounts they were dismal against Louth.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on February 16, 2011, 04:30:00 PM
Westmeath in Mullingar will be a tough prospect and there is a few very handy players in that side with Conor Lynam and Dennis Glennon and John Heslin who is just out of minor capable of destroying a relatively small Cavan midfield. Another big performance is required from Cullivan. I'd also worry about Murray centre forward on Kieran Gavin in his second game at this level.. But i'd have good faith in our full forward line doing damage if they get good service.

Hopefully they can push on from the Tyrone performance but we've seen enough false starts in the past to know how unpredictable Cavan can be. But a loss on Saturday night will leave us in a relagation battle.

Can anyone say why we still haven't seen Givney or Nesty? I see Givney in the Celt with Cullivan Clarke and Flanagan at what I presume is a training session??
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on February 16, 2011, 06:29:13 PM
Did Givney not hurt his back lifting weights?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Cromagh on February 17, 2011, 12:43:27 PM
Just a question - how many cavan gaels players are on the 2011 county panel
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on February 17, 2011, 01:16:42 PM
Quote from: Cromagh on February 17, 2011, 12:43:27 PM
Just a question - how many cavan gaels players are on the 2011 county panel

2 I think. Sean Johnson and Niall Murray.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on February 17, 2011, 08:17:11 PM
Quote from: tommysmith on February 16, 2011, 06:29:13 PM
Did Givney not hurt his back lifting weights?
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mustn't have hurt it too bad he lined out at midfield for Sligo in the Sigerson today and was supposed to have done well. Sligo gone so expect to see him in Cavan shake up soon. Keating was doing well for Sligo as well apparently until he got gate. Leddy from the Gaels lined out also. Huge shock with DIT going out so that's McKiernan and Martin Reilly finished with the colleges comp. Poor aul Tommy used to like to moan about colleges depriving him of players no such problem for the current team, except for our few DCU cases.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: whats my name on February 17, 2011, 09:05:19 PM
yeah he hurt his back alright at christmas he had a slipped disc from what i hear that was his first game back from it as far as i know
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on February 20, 2011, 07:44:06 PM
Draw in Mullingar... Anyone at the game?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on February 20, 2011, 08:01:42 PM
Was listening on northern sound (god help me) but it was close throughout. Mckiernan scored the equalizer 1 min into injury time. Givney came on too.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Western Blue on February 21, 2011, 06:38:44 PM
As a fan of Nesty Smith I am getting a wee bit concerned as to his whereabouts . (A) Is he part of the Cavan set up this year. ( B) Is he injured and if so how soon will he be back playing. What about Michael Lyng , is he in or out . Playing last week on the 40 for D.CU. - had a good game I am told.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: whats my name on February 21, 2011, 07:45:35 PM
western blue (A) je is a part of the cavan set up (B) he is injured he will be back in march as far as i know
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Ollie on February 21, 2011, 10:43:28 PM
Lyng played for the Gaels at the weekend in the Ulster Senior League. Played well too.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on February 22, 2011, 10:42:46 AM
Have many been to the first two games, support seem to be at a low this year.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on February 23, 2011, 06:05:04 PM
Quote from: tommysmith on February 22, 2011, 10:42:46 AM
Have many been to the first two games, support seem to be at a low this year.

None,it doesnt help that the Ulster Club League so far has been scheduled for the same time as all our league games  ::)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on February 23, 2011, 07:44:07 PM
I heard that a bit of the old furniture has been let go of the panel.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: PhilsJemmysField on February 23, 2011, 07:54:02 PM
When does Ulster U21 start ?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on February 23, 2011, 10:58:54 PM
Quote from: PhilsJemmysField on February 23, 2011, 07:54:02 PM
When does Ulster U21 start ?

Think its 16th March or something like that.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on February 23, 2011, 11:09:26 PM
Quote from: tommysmith on February 23, 2011, 07:44:07 PM
I heard that a bit of the old furniture has been let go of the panel.

Start the gossiping... do tell
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Mr. Pain on February 24, 2011, 12:17:39 PM
Coming soon.......
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on February 24, 2011, 04:31:32 PM
Quote from: Mr. Pain on February 24, 2011, 12:17:39 PM
Coming soon.......

you posted the same thing about 4 months ago ya flute.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4sam on February 24, 2011, 08:06:26 PM
I know of 4 whos have been let go from the panel who have been on it for a while. NW, MH, LM, CG
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dougal on February 24, 2011, 09:19:57 PM
only one out of them four would come as a surprise to me,if true.id actually have one of them as a def starter this year.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on February 24, 2011, 09:31:31 PM
Quote from: Dougal on February 24, 2011, 09:19:57 PM
only one out of them four would come as a surprise to me,if true.id actually have one of them as a def starter this year.

I wouldnt have any of them starting on form the last few years.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dougal on February 24, 2011, 09:42:12 PM
one of them kept a 2009 all-star forward scoreless from play,and did a good job on a player that played for ireland in the IR series.which is more than a lot of last years players did.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on February 25, 2011, 08:19:02 AM
Quote from: Dougal on February 24, 2011, 09:42:12 PM
one of them kept a 2009 all-star forward scoreless from play,and did a good job on a player that played for ireland in the IR series.which is more than a lot of last years players did.

Maybe we expect to much from him but i think he was  below par the last few years apart from one game that slips my mind.

Anyway any news on sundays team?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: whats my name on February 25, 2011, 11:31:18 AM
Cavan (SF v Waterford): J Reilly; A Clarke, P Carroll, S Jordan; M McKeever, J McCutcheon, D O'Reilly; R Cullivan, P O'Reilly; R Flanagan, K Fannin, G McKiernan; C Mackey, G Pearson, S Johnston.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on February 25, 2011, 11:48:09 AM
Quote from: Thastheball on February 25, 2011, 11:40:52 AM
Is that the smallest intercounty midfild pairing ever? I know you can only cut the cloth your given, but it puts us on the back foot before the games starts.

Yeah and the last time Waterford beat us alot of the problem was that they were bigger and  physically stronger.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Breffni_Yank on February 25, 2011, 11:53:52 AM
Quote from: tommysmith on February 25, 2011, 11:48:09 AM
Quote from: Thastheball on February 25, 2011, 11:40:52 AM
Is that the smallest intercounty midfild pairing ever? I know you can only cut the cloth your given, but it puts us on the back foot before the games starts.

Yeah and the last time Waterford beat us alot of the problem was that they were bigger and  physically stronger.

I wouldn't be overly concerned about that if Gearoid McKiernan is at wing-forward and Givney is on the bench. I heard them two had a major impact when they came on last weekend against Westmeath. Was out of the country so never got to see either of our two opening games.

Would it not make more sense to have McKiernan at midfield with Cullivan on the half-forward line?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on February 25, 2011, 11:54:55 AM
Quote from: Breffni_Yank on February 25, 2011, 11:53:52 AM
Quote from: tommysmith on February 25, 2011, 11:48:09 AM
Quote from: Thastheball on February 25, 2011, 11:40:52 AM
Is that the smallest intercounty midfild pairing ever? I know you can only cut the cloth your given, but it puts us on the back foot before the games starts.

Yeah and the last time Waterford beat us alot of the problem was that they were bigger and  physically stronger.

I wouldn't be overly concerned about that if Gearoid McKiernan is at wing-forward and Givney is on the bench. I heard them two had a major impact when they came on last weekend against Westmeath. Was out of the country so never got to see either of our two opening games.

Would it not make more sense to have McKiernan at midfield with Cullivan on the half-forward line?
I would think thats what will happen.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on February 25, 2011, 03:36:50 PM
Who is the other 2 let go from the panel after walsh and hannon? I'm surprised its taken this long for cullivan to be tried at midfield for a few games, he is a great fielder and good engine,he might not be the tallest but he has a great leap.. I think him and givney could be a good midfield duo with mckiernan playing as a third midfield player, mckiernan always get a few points from midfield and could score more as a half forward.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Breffni_Yank on February 25, 2011, 03:47:29 PM
Nah I think McKiernan is a natural midfielder. I would rather see him there and let Cullivan play further forward.

I presume LM is Lorcan Mulvey - can't sat that is a massive loss.
CG must be Ciaran Galligan - Same as above. How many chances have them two boys and NW got over the years at midfield?

They can't have any complaints in my opinion. Looking forward to getting to Breffni this weekend and seeing the boys play. I imagine there will be feck all at it.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on February 25, 2011, 04:00:44 PM
Huge game on Sunday - a win and we're in the top half of the table with an eye on promotion.  A defeat and even a draw and we right down in a tight relegation battle.  Waterford will be riding high after a great win over Limerick last weekend and have came to Breffni in recent years and won too (Will we ever forget that game?)

As for the boys being let go - looks like it down to a combo of injury and loss of form, I'll let ye match the names with either of those reasons.

Hopefully we can get a win on Sunday and kick start the season....

By the by, any word on the Under 21s and Minors??
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Breffni_Yank on February 25, 2011, 04:13:31 PM
Quote from: Celt_Man on February 25, 2011, 04:00:44 PM
Huge game on Sunday - a win and we're in the top half of the table with an eye on promotion.  A defeat and even a draw and we right down in a tight relegation battle.  Waterford will be riding high after a great win over Limerick last weekend and have came to Breffni in recent years and won too (Will we ever forget that game?)

As for the boys being let go - looks like it down to a combo of injury and loss of form, I'll let ye match the names with either of those reasons.

Hopefully we can get a win on Sunday and kick start the season....

By the by, any word on the Under 21s and Minors??

I've heard very little which can only be a good thing surely? This years u21 team were decent when Minor I remember, have many of them bar McKiernan kicked on since then?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on February 25, 2011, 04:16:30 PM
Quote from: Breffni_Yank on February 25, 2011, 04:13:31 PM
Quote from: Celt_Man on February 25, 2011, 04:00:44 PM
Huge game on Sunday - a win and we're in the top half of the table with an eye on promotion.  A defeat and even a draw and we right down in a tight relegation battle.  Waterford will be riding high after a great win over Limerick last weekend and have came to Breffni in recent years and won too (Will we ever forget that game?)

As for the boys being let go - looks like it down to a combo of injury and loss of form, I'll let ye match the names with either of those reasons.

Hopefully we can get a win on Sunday and kick start the season....

By the by, any word on the Under 21s and Minors??

I've heard very little which can only be a good thing surely? This years u21 team were decent when Minor I remember, have many of them bar McKiernan kicked on since then?

Have we ever had a Minor team who wasn't decent or destined for big things....  :-\
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Breffni_Yank on February 25, 2011, 04:32:32 PM
Quote from: Celt_Man on February 25, 2011, 04:16:30 PM
Quote from: Breffni_Yank on February 25, 2011, 04:13:31 PM
Quote from: Celt_Man on February 25, 2011, 04:00:44 PM
Huge game on Sunday - a win and we're in the top half of the table with an eye on promotion.  A defeat and even a draw and we right down in a tight relegation battle.  Waterford will be riding high after a great win over Limerick last weekend and have came to Breffni in recent years and won too (Will we ever forget that game?)

As for the boys being let go - looks like it down to a combo of injury and loss of form, I'll let ye match the names with either of those reasons.

Hopefully we can get a win on Sunday and kick start the season....

By the by, any word on the Under 21s and Minors??

I've heard very little which can only be a good thing surely? This years u21 team were decent when Minor I remember, have many of them bar McKiernan kicked on since then?

Have we ever had a Minor team who wasn't decent or destined for big things....  :-\

Haha very good point point. In fairness I do remember going to see this bunch in Clones and there was no 'star'. Previous years the likes of Martin Dunne, Conor Smith, Cullivan and Keating etc were hyped up to the last and never really delivered. I think McKiernan might get hyped up this year and hope he pays no attention to it. Potentially him and Givney can give us a midfield as good as anyone.

Anyone have any idea about this year's minors at all? Was the management team even finalised?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dougal on February 25, 2011, 04:36:09 PM
this was one of the slightly better minor teams,probably the best since 05.lost to tyrone by a point after tyrone got a late goal (i think thats what happened).i still dont think its as strong as last years U21s but il be glad if im wrong.

as for the minors,big dermot was at our match against the gaels and he had only heard of 1 arva player and knew 1 killeshandra player.id expect more from a joint manager or whatever he is.  >:(
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on February 25, 2011, 04:47:16 PM
I think McCabe and Gary Donohoe(?) are over the Minors.. I'd imagine it will be the usual hard luck lost to the eventual winners story that we've had for the past few years. I just don't think the County Board put in enough effort for the Minors for them to push on and actually win a few games.. As evidenced by the farcical Management selection process..
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on February 25, 2011, 05:18:50 PM
Niall lynch should of gotten the minor job.. He has great succes with virginia school and would have a better knowledge of the under players than Mc cabe i think. Is keating involed with the county squad this year, or Micheal lyng, lyng played well in the last sigerson match for Dcu. Galliagan,walsh and mulvey are all midfield players so they must be looking at givney,cullivan,mckiernan for this season. Mulvey got load if chances but wasnt good enough same as walsh. Galligan was a good tryer but wasnt a county player either
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up-again on February 25, 2011, 05:32:13 PM
I don't even want to start about the farce of the minor job again. More importantly since they got the job, what have they been doing?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on February 25, 2011, 07:37:27 PM
Sunday, god knows what to expect, Waterford are a big physical team, awkward to play against and know right well that some of our lads are grand if you stand back and admire them, which they won't. Depends on which Waterford turn up, if it's the lot against Wexford we've got two in the bag, the crowd that showed up against Limerick and we're in doo doo. One consolation is that they have a number of injuries so I'm taking us for a much needed win, anything else and we're in trouble staying up.

Assume Dermot Sheridan is DCU tied? Apart from himself, Nesty and, maybe, Lyng I can't think of much else to come back into the panel?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on February 25, 2011, 10:32:32 PM
Quote from: anglocelt39 on February 25, 2011, 07:37:27 PM
Sunday, god knows what to expect, Waterford are a big physical team, awkward to play against and know right well that some of our lads are grand if you stand back and admire them, which they won't. Depends on which Waterford turn up, if it's the lot against Wexford we've got two in the bag, the crowd that showed up against Limerick and we're in doo doo. One consolation is that they have a number of injuries so I'm taking us for a much needed win, anything else and we're in trouble staying up.

Assume Dermot Sheridan is DCU tied? Apart from himself, Nesty and, maybe, Lyng I can't think of much else to come back into the panel?

Sheridan isn't in DCU anymore, teaching in Virginia College but was injured since the start of the year.  Any word on Martin Reilly??  I know he was involved with DIT but they got dumped out last week so he should be about
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on February 25, 2011, 10:44:25 PM
I wonder if any of the cavan gaels players like duffy,chesty or pauric smith will be added by the end of the league.. Smith and duffy were carrying injuries so they werent inlvolved in the mckenna cup but i think they would be great players to add onto the panel and tighten the defence. Not sure what the story is with Eamonn Reilly, think he is tied with work so cant play county. Cavan needs every good player available if they are to go anywhere, at least Pierson is back this year as he didnt play at all really for cavan in the last two years bar mckenna cup in carrs first year, When nesty returns from injurt there will be lots of options in the forwards which is a good thing..
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: club_man on February 26, 2011, 02:33:34 PM
Any word lads on who won the Cor na Nog final this morning?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Breffni_Yank on February 26, 2011, 02:39:52 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on February 25, 2011, 10:44:25 PM
I wonder if any of the cavan gaels players like duffy,chesty or pauric smith will be added by the end of the league.. Smith and duffy were carrying injuries so they werent inlvolved in the mckenna cup but i think they would be great players to add onto the panel and tighten the defence. Not sure what the story is with Eamonn Reilly, think he is tied with work so cant play county. Cavan needs every good player available if they are to go anywhere, at least Pierson is back this year as he didnt play at all really for cavan in the last two years bar mckenna cup in carrs first year, When nesty returns from injurt there will be lots of options in the forwards which is a good thing..

Should we really wonder about the Gaels lads anymore? All I have ever heard from them is excuse after excuse in January or so. They are not there so sod them.

Any word on when Nesty is back?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on February 26, 2011, 02:41:30 PM
Quote from: Breffni_Yank on February 26, 2011, 02:39:52 PM
Should we really wonder about the Gaels lads anymore? All I have ever heard from them is excuse after excuse in January or so. They are not there so sod them.

Any word on when Nesty is back?

Without knowing the ins and outs of it, I'd be inclined to agree with ya
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Breffni_Yank on February 26, 2011, 03:05:25 PM
Quote from: Celt_Man on February 26, 2011, 02:41:30 PM
Quote from: Breffni_Yank on February 26, 2011, 02:39:52 PM
Should we really wonder about the Gaels lads anymore? All I have ever heard from them is excuse after excuse in January or so. They are not there so sod them.

Any word on when Nesty is back?

Without knowing the ins and outs of it, I'd be inclined to agree with ya

I didn't mean to be disrespectful but ever since I start following this board the Gaels conundrum has been brought up again and again. Really what is he point anymore?

Does anyone know if Lyng is on the panel?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on February 26, 2011, 03:39:26 PM
Quote from: Breffni_Yank on February 26, 2011, 03:05:25 PM
Quote from: Celt_Man on February 26, 2011, 02:41:30 PM
Quote from: Breffni_Yank on February 26, 2011, 02:39:52 PM
Should we really wonder about the Gaels lads anymore? All I have ever heard from them is excuse after excuse in January or so. They are not there so sod them.

Any word on when Nesty is back?

Without knowing the ins and outs of it, I'd be inclined to agree with ya

I didn't mean to be disrespectful but ever since I start following this board the Gaels conundrum has been brought up again and again. Really what is he point anymore?

Does anyone know if Lyng is on the panel?

No denying that fact.  Lyng will be playing for DCU on Thursday in Sigerson Quarter final but I presume he is still on the panel
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on February 26, 2011, 08:11:28 PM
Quote from: Breffni_Yank on February 26, 2011, 03:05:25 PM
Quote from: Celt_Man on February 26, 2011, 02:41:30 PM
Quote from: Breffni_Yank on February 26, 2011, 02:39:52 PM
Should we really wonder about the Gaels lads anymore? All I have ever heard from them is excuse after excuse in January or so. They are not there so sod them.

Any word on when Nesty is back?

Without knowing the ins and outs of it, I'd be inclined to agree with ya

I didn't mean to be disrespectful but ever since I start following this board the Gaels conundrum has been brought up again and again. Really what is he point anymore?

Does anyone know if Lyng is on the panel?


i'll put my hand up and admit to being one of the Guilty parties in raising that topic Yank. Personally I wouldn't give two tuppeny F"£$"ks if it was not for the fact that on championship form over the last two years we are now in the bottom five football counties in the Country. Thank christ you weren't sitting beside me and a few other lads in Cork during that ritual humiliation last July. A few Cork lads actually took sympathy on us (god that was hard to take) and innocently started asking us about the state of club football in the County. You can imagine the direction that conversation took. While we're on the topic, your question about Lyng??
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up-again on February 26, 2011, 08:17:06 PM
Quote from: anglocelt39 on February 26, 2011, 08:11:28 PM
Quote from: Breffni_Yank on February 26, 2011, 03:05:25 PM
Quote from: Celt_Man on February 26, 2011, 02:41:30 PM
Quote from: Breffni_Yank on February 26, 2011, 02:39:52 PM
Should we really wonder about the Gaels lads anymore? All I have ever heard from them is excuse after excuse in January or so. They are not there so sod them.

Any word on when Nesty is back?

Without knowing the ins and outs of it, I'd be inclined to agree with ya

I didn't mean to be disrespectful but ever since I start following this board the Gaels conundrum has been brought up again and again. Really what is he point anymore?

Does anyone know if Lyng is on the panel?


i'll put my hand up and admit to being one of the Guilty parties in raising that topic Yank. Personally I wouldn't give two tuppeny F"£$"ks if it was not for the fact that on championship form over the last two years we are now in the bottom five football counties in the Country. Thank christ you weren't sitting beside me and a few other lads in Cork during that ritual humiliation last July. A few Cork lads actually took sympathy on us (god that was hard to take) and innocently started asking us about the state of club football in the County. You can imagine the direction that conversation took. While we're on the topic, your question about Lyng??

I would say you were one of very few people down there that day chief  ;D

Im suprised they didn't ask you to tog out at half time  ;)

Anyone have the panel from that awful, awful day? Be interested to see how many lads are still involved.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on February 26, 2011, 09:55:54 PM
Team for tomorrow from Hoganstand.

| More Forward switches for Cavan

Cavan's Cian Mackey
25 February 2011


Cavan managers Val Andrews and Terry Hyland have made two changes to their forward line for Sunday's Allianz National League Division 3 meeting with Waterford.

Gearoid McKiernan of Swanlinbar comes into the side after registering two vital scores as a substitute in last weekend's draw with Westmeath.

Cian Mackey (pictured right), also a half-time replacement last week, is promoted to the side at right corner forward. Niall Murray and Brendan Fitzpatrick are the two players to lose out.



The back line and midfield remains unchanged from Cusack Park a week ago.

Waterford are sure to provide stern opposition, having surprised Munster rivals Limerick a week ago.

Throw-in at Kingspan Breffni Park is at 2.30pm on Sunday.

Cavan (SF v Waterford): J Reilly; A Clarke, P Carroll, S Jordan; M McKeever, J McCutcheon, D O'Reilly; R Cullivan, P O'Reilly; R Flanagan, K Fannin, G McKiernan; C Mackey, G Pearson, S Johnston.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on February 27, 2011, 04:43:30 PM
That was a poor performance today lucky to get the win in the end.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: club_man on February 27, 2011, 11:19:38 PM
And so another round complete and a very poor performance today. Some well taken scores at times but the overall play was of a poor standard. Things are not good when we are struggling to beat Waterford (no disrespect to Waterford) but surely we can play better stuff.

James was solid in goals and a neat save in the dying moments of the game saved our blushes.

Patrick Carroll was not his usual self at full back, head did not seem to be in the game and made a number of silly errors. Thought Stephen Jordan has a particularly good game, was at fault for their goal but overall was a very sticky corner back. Similarly Toastie (Alan Clarke) did quite well.

Half back line were pretty decent with Mc Keever again performing well, he has that bit of quality that stands out. However not sure if Damien O'Reilly is up to the standard.

Midfield again ok, nothing spectacular but I suspect Givney will feature in this area come championship. You really do need big men in this area at inter county level.

Gearoid was quiet enough, made 1 or 2 good passes but quiet by his standards. Fannin scored a good point but faded out of the game and was eventually replaced. Though Flanagan had a poor game, seemed to slow the play up a lot and apart from the frees didn't offer a lot.

Pierson did well when the ball was stuck on his chest, his man however did well on the 50/50 balls. Should be a real threat at championship pace on solid ground.

Jelly was poor and was at his usual giving out when ball wasn't exactly where he wanted. Scored one or two points but would expect better. Mackey did very little and like Flanagan seemed to slow down the game. He is at his best when running at defence's.

Overall not the most enjoyable game but I suppose a wins a win. Extremely poor attendance (probably due to rugby)

Upwards and onwards
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on February 28, 2011, 02:17:59 PM
Good to see we won while not playing well.

Thanks for the report on the match Club man.  Here is the report from Hoganstand.  As the ad says, Go Compare.

NFL 3: Cavan edge out Decies

New Cavan captain Seanie Johnson scored three points for the Breffni men in their NFL win over Waterford at Breffni Park.
27 February 2011


Cavan 0-13
Waterford 1-8

Cavan claimed their first win of the Allianz National Football League season with victory over fellow relegation candidates Waterford at Kingspan Breffni Park on Sunday.

The win saw the Ulstermen climb out of the bottom two of the Division 3 standings, in turn demoting Waterford back into the relegation places.

The home side led by two at the interval (0-6 to 0-4) and despite going behind to Mark Ferncombe's goal early in the second half, they hit back to close out the win at the final whistle.



It was a third goal in two games for Ferncombe, but on this occasion it was not enough to inspire the Decies to victory, with Cavan scoring six unanswered points - including scores from Ray Cullivan, Seanie Johnston and Cian Mackey - to open up a lead they wouldn't relinquish.

Cavan: J Reilly; A Clarke, P Carroll, S Jordan; M McKeever (0-1), J McCutcheon, D O'Reilly; R Cullivan (0-2), P O'Reilly (0-1); R Flanagan (0-2), K Fannin (0-1), G McKiernan; C Mackey (0-2), G Pierson (0-1), S Johnston (0-3, two frees). Subs: D Givney for R Flanagan (51 mins), B Reilly for K Fannin (56 mins), M Cahill for D OReilly (63 mins).

Waterford: K Cotter; M O'Gorman, T O'Gorman, C Phelan; K Connery, S Briggs, W Hennessy; T Prendergast, B Phelan; B Wall (0-5, 0-3 frees), K Power (0-1), M O'Gorman; M Ferncombe (1-0), P Hurney (0-1), S Fleming (0-1). Subs: T Connors for K Power (half-time), S Dempsey for B Phelan (55 mins), M Donnelly for S Fleming (63 mins), J Veale for M OGorman (64 mins).

Referee: J Curley (Meath).
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on February 28, 2011, 02:39:19 PM
Waterford had the wind in the first half but Cavan still had most of the ball and were 6-4 up at HT.  Cavan by default or design seemed to leave oceans of space in their defence and the forwards were fairly cluttered up.

Definitely improved in the third quarter and Cavan were definitely on top but let in a very badly defended goal which brought them right back into it.  They grabbed another couple of points and instead of coasting into victory, Cavan were looking over their shoulders and at the clock.

Alan Clarke caught the eye in the full back line and half backs used the ball well.  Team had a more settled look to it later in first half when McKiernan went to midfield, Cullivan to 40 and Fannin switched over to wing.

Overall result was very important if we didn't get it, it was definitely a relegation battle now if we picked up a result away to a struggling Limerick side - depending on other results, we'll have an outside chance at promotion.  As with other years, this Division is gonna be very tight from top to bottom
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on February 28, 2011, 03:33:46 PM
Wont have McKiernan or any of the U-21's the next day.  Its very possible now that Cavan will be playing in Divison 4 next year and after the game yesterday nobody could argue its the level we are at.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Breffni_Yank on February 28, 2011, 04:36:04 PM
Quote from: tommysmith on February 28, 2011, 03:33:46 PM
Wont have McKiernan or any of the U-21's the next day.  Its very possible now that Cavan will be playing in Divison 4 next year and after the game yesterday nobody could argue its the level we are at.

Why not? We need McKiernan at midfield I think.

Jaysus lads I know we won but my god that was as bad as I ever seen us play I think. Waterford were brutal too. Thankfully we have two points though and puts us in a much better position in the league.

I just don't think any manager could transform the team at the minute. There is talent there but there seems to be very little team ethic or spirit. I'm I the only one that got sweet FA impression of togetherness yesterday? When we went five points up yesterday there was no desire at all to drive on and beat them out the gate. We took the foot of the gas, let them in for a handy goal and only we have one of the best keepers in Ireland we would have lost that game at the end yesterday.

After that, all i'm looking for this year is a solid league campaign where we avoid relegation and I'm not even thinking of championship. Any run at all will be a bonus.

Val, you are a brave man taking this job I'll give you that
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on February 28, 2011, 05:10:37 PM
Quote from: Breffni_Yank on February 28, 2011, 04:36:04 PM
Quote from: tommysmith on February 28, 2011, 03:33:46 PM
Wont have McKiernan or any of the U-21's the next day.  Its very possible now that Cavan will be playing in Divison 4 next year and after the game yesterday nobody could argue its the level we are at.

Why not? We need McKiernan at midfield I think.



Ulster U-21 game a few days after the next league game and Val or Terry said that none of them will be involved with the Senior until after U-21's are finished.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on February 28, 2011, 07:47:30 PM
According to Hoganstand Seanie Johnston isi the new captain! That is a risky move but they are probably trying to get him to be a team man and not the individual he always in. I'm not sure leadership is in him from what Ive seen over the years but we will see.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up-again on February 28, 2011, 07:57:24 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on February 28, 2011, 07:47:30 PM
According to Hoganstand Seanie Johnston isi the new captain! That is a risky move but they are probably trying to get him to be a team man and not the individual he always in. I'm not sure leadership is in him from what Ive seen over the years but we will see.

Who else is guaranteed their game though bar James Reilly?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on March 01, 2011, 10:04:20 PM
Championship Draws were tonight

Senior
Group 1: Lacken, Cavan Gaels, Ramor United, Ballinagh
Group 2: Cuchulainns, Drumalee, Killygarry, Denn
Group 3: Castlerahan, Gowna, Belturbet, Redhills
Group 4: Mullahorn, Kingscourt, Lavey

Intermediate
Group 1: Cootehill, Knockbride, Bailieborough, Drung
Group 2: Killeshandra, Killinkere, Butlersbridge, Swanlinbar
Group 3: Ballyhaise, Drumlane, Cavan Gaels, Drumgoon
Group 4: Crosserlough, Ballymachugh, Kill, Laragh United

Junior
Group 1: Kildallon, Shercock, Shannon Gaels, Mountnugent
Group 2: Munterconnaught, Corlough, Maghera
Group 3: Templeport, Cornafean, Arva

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on March 02, 2011, 04:47:40 AM
From www.ulstercollegesgaa.org

Omagh take Corn na nOg

Sun 27th Feb 2011

Omagh CBS 1-7 St Patrick's Cavan 1-4

St Patrick's Cavan went into this Corn na nÓg decider at Gavin Duffy Park Monaghan as hot favourites but Omagh CBS didn't read the script as they produced a fine display to upset the odds and deservedly take the title.

With both sides deploying a sweeper in defence scores proved difficult to come by and by the 28th minute only two points were registered with both going to the Tyrone lads courtesy of Patrick O'Neill and team captain Gavin Slane. That's when Omagh CBS struck for a superb individual goal from O'Neill to give them a stranglehold on proceedings. Slane tagged on a point and it was a measure of the way that the Omagh defence played that it took until two minutes into injury time for Cavan to open their account through Paul Leddy as the score line read 1-3 to 0-1 at the break.

Ben Conaty and Slane traded points on the restart before a goal from Ronan O'Reilly in the 40th minute took Cavan back into it. Omagh though refused to panic with captain Slane taking his personal haul for the afternoon to five points and despite not scoring in the final dozen minutes they limited their opponents to just two points from O'Reilly frees.

Omagh CBS –C Treanor, C Furey, O McGinn, C McCormack, E Murray, T McNamee, R McKenna, E McConnell, P McGirr, A McSorley, G Slane [0-5], P O'Neill [1-2], M Monaghan, S McGuigan, A McGrath. Subs – J Darcy for O McGinn, R McDaid for McGrath, C Gormley for Monaghan, M Corless for McSorley

St Patrick's Cavan – M Fegan, D Lunney, T Galligan, J Rahill, P Sexton, C McManus, P Smith, C McCabe, J Veale, D Hackett, R Connolly, M McKenna, B Conaty [0-1], P Leddy [0-1], R O'Reilly [1-2]. Subs – D Brady for Hackett, R Galligan for Sexton, D Gannon for Leddy

Referee – G Treanor, Truagh

Report from Kevin Kelly

Submitted by: Seamus McAleenan
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on March 02, 2011, 07:13:25 PM
Quote from: Celt_Man on March 01, 2011, 10:04:20 PM
Championship Draws were tonight

Senior
Group 1: Lacken, Cavan Gaels, Ramor United, Ballinagh
Group 2: Cuchulainns, Drumalee, Killygarry, Denn
Group 3: Castlerahan, Gowna, Belturbet, Redhills
Group 4: Mullahorn, Kingscourt, Lavey

Intermediate
Group 1: Cootehill, Knockbride, Bailieborough, Drung
Group 2: Killeshandra, Killinkere, Butlersbridge, Swanlinbar
Group 3: Ballyhaise, Drumlane, Cavan Gaels, Drumgoon
Group 4: Crosserlough, Ballymachugh, Kill, Laragh United


Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Breffni_Yank on March 04, 2011, 12:34:30 AM
Not much point making championship predicitons just yet is there? So many variables to take in like hat clubs will be hit with emigration?

On our group we would be pretty pleased. Killeshadra will be favourites but hard to know how Swad will shape up after their adventures this year..

No senior game this weekend so I'd say the board will remain quiet. I saw against Waterford that we had 28 subs. I thought GAA said only panels of 26 are allowed now?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on March 04, 2011, 08:14:33 AM
Sorry it wont happen again  ::)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on March 04, 2011, 08:39:51 AM
Quote from: Breffni_Yank on March 04, 2011, 12:34:30 AM
Not much point making championship predicitons just yet is there? So many variables to take in like hat clubs will be hit with emigration?

On our group we would be pretty pleased. Killeshadra will be favourites but hard to know how Swad will shape up after their adventures this year..

No senior game this weekend so I'd say the board will remain quiet. I saw against Waterford that we had 28 subs. I thought GAA said only panels of 26 are allowed now?

28 subs - must be a new record to have 43 togged out for a match! :)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: angellady on March 04, 2011, 11:08:25 AM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on March 04, 2011, 08:39:51 AM
Quote from: Breffni_Yank on March 04, 2011, 12:34:30 AM
Not much point making championship predicitons just yet is there? So many variables to take in like hat clubs will be hit with emigration?

On our group we would be pretty pleased. Killeshadra will be favourites but hard to know how Swad will shape up after their adventures this year..

No senior game this weekend so I'd say the board will remain quiet. I saw against Waterford that we had 28 subs. I thought GAA said only panels of 26 are allowed now?

28 subs - must be a new record to have 43 togged out for a match! :)

43 poor poor footballers! :D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on March 04, 2011, 01:10:48 PM
Quote from: angellady on March 04, 2011, 11:08:25 AM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on March 04, 2011, 08:39:51 AM
Quote from: Breffni_Yank on March 04, 2011, 12:34:30 AM
Not much point making championship predicitons just yet is there? So many variables to take in like hat clubs will be hit with emigration?

On our group we would be pretty pleased. Killeshadra will be favourites but hard to know how Swad will shape up after their adventures this year..

No senior game this weekend so I'd say the board will remain quiet. I saw against Waterford that we had 28 subs. I thought GAA said only panels of 26 are allowed now?

28 subs - must be a new record to have 43 togged out for a match! :)

43 poor poor footballers! :D


Aaahhhh - A woman, who let you in here!!!!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: PhilsJemmysField on March 04, 2011, 03:22:56 PM

A wee bit of hope

http://www.anglocelt.ie/news/roundup/articles/2011/03/03/4003596-virginia-college-are-ulster-champions/
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on March 04, 2011, 04:43:08 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on February 25, 2011, 05:18:50 PM
Niall lynch should of gotten the minor job..

Quote from: PhilsJemmysField on March 04, 2011, 03:22:56 PM

A wee bit of hope

http://www.anglocelt.ie/news/roundup/articles/2011/03/03/4003596-virginia-college-are-ulster-champions/

Is Niall Lynch in charge of this team or is Dermot Sheridan in charge (heard hes working there)?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on March 04, 2011, 05:30:35 PM
Ronan Flanagan  joint coach
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on March 04, 2011, 10:54:45 PM
Well Done to Virginia. Good to see a Drumalee man as manager!!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: PhilsJemmysField on March 07, 2011, 11:37:48 AM
Ronan Flanagan & Ronan Flood in charge of u14 team, Dermot Sheridan was with u16 team I believe and Niall Lynch was in charge of u18 team
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: angellady on March 07, 2011, 02:37:49 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on March 04, 2011, 01:10:48 PM
Quote from: angellady on March 04, 2011, 11:08:25 AM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on March 04, 2011, 08:39:51 AM
Quote from: Breffni_Yank on March 04, 2011, 12:34:30 AM
Not much point making championship predicitons just yet is there? So many variables to take in like hat clubs will be hit with emigration?

On our group we would be pretty pleased. Killeshadra will be favourites but hard to know how Swad will shape up after their adventures this year..

No senior game this weekend so I'd say the board will remain quiet. I saw against Waterford that we had 28 subs. I thought GAA said only panels of 26 are allowed now?

28 subs - must be a new record to have 43 togged out for a match! :)

43 poor poor footballers! :D


Aaahhhh - A woman, who let you in here!!!!

sexist pig! could expect nothing less from a killashandra man :P
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on March 09, 2011, 02:29:08 PM
Cavan joint-managers Val Andrews and Terry Hyland have made four changes to their side for the Allianz National League Division 3 clash with Limerick on Sunday.

Dermot Sheridan and Martin Cahill return to the back line with Gareth Smith and Michael Brennan restored to the attack for the trip the Gaelic Grounds.

Patrick Carroll, Damien O'Reilly, Gearoid McKiernan and Gerard Pierson are the quartet to make way.


The Breffni men will be attempting to win away from home for the first time since the opening game of the 2010 NFL campaign, when they put 2-20 past Roscommon at Dr Hyde Park.

They lie in fifth place in Division 3 with three points from as many games while Limerick have endured a torrid start to their first season back in the division, losing to Tipperary, Waterford and Offaly.

Throw-in at the Limerick venue is at 1pm on Sunday afternoon.

Cavan (SF v Limerick): J Reilly; A Clarke, D Sheridan, S Jordan; M McKeever, J McCutcheon, M Cahill; R Cullivan, P O'Reilly; R Flanagan, K Fannin, G Smith; C Mackey, M Brennan, S Johnston.


No huge surprises, some more experience included for a tough trip to Limerick. No U-21s included I would imagine..

It's basically a turning point in the league, if we win now promotion is a real possibility, lose and we're in the relegation dogfight again..
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on March 09, 2011, 02:49:24 PM
Great to see some of them boys back... Martin Cahill is far better suited to the half back than to the corner - where he has played a good deal of football for Cavan

Nesty, along with Jelly, was the main man in attack for me last year so great to have him back. 

Like Westside says, a win it's all on for promotion and a loss and it's all on heading the opposite direction.

Pity I won't get to see the bloody game - not sure if I hate himself enough to listen to it on Northern Sound
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dougal on March 09, 2011, 02:56:02 PM
cavan are at 6/4,if my u21 bets for tonight come in and it stays at that price ill be putting a good bit on a cavan win.limerick have been poor so far and with those players comming back into the team i think we'll be hard enough beat.midfield still seems a bit dodgy though,wheres givney?cahill is a great addition in the half backs,and dermot isnt the worst full back weve had in the last few years,nesty and brennan are also big threats in the forwards.this looks close to a championship starting team.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: PhilsJemmysField on March 09, 2011, 04:36:53 PM
Apparently U21 were playing a challenge at the weekend anybody hear how they got on
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BigMac on March 10, 2011, 11:16:39 AM
It's good to see Nesty back. Was one of the best we had last year. His free taking alone is almost worth his place. As you say Dougal, we've had plenty of worse full backs in the last few years, although I do think he is better out the field, he can definitely do a job in there. Cahill is also a big improvement on Damien O Reilly in my opinion. Pierson I would imagine will still get some game time, so all in all I'm very hopeful/confident of a win. Just on Givney, he isn't under 21 is he? Sigerson is over, he's supposedly injury free, where is he? We've all been talking about him being the future of Cavan mid field for ages now. He's now 22, the future is now. At this age he should be the main stay in the engine room. If he is going to be a top midfielder in Ulster/ Ireland he needs to start playing. Probably not his fault that he's not playing but it's time he started to live up to his reputation. Sean Cavanagh had an All Star and all Ireland at 20. Aidan Walsh had an All Star and all Ireland at 20. It's time we stopped wrapping him in cotton wool and let him play.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: angellady on March 10, 2011, 01:26:52 PM
Quote from: PhilsJemmysField on March 09, 2011, 04:36:53 PM
Apparently U21 were playing a challenge at the weekend anybody hear how they got on

heard they were well bet by down. full back line was destroyed as was Gearoid in midfield. o meara the goalkeeper let in a few soft goals too (think it was four!!!!!) i heard need to get that position sorted fast. barry reilly quiet, leddy was the best of the forwards.

Louth will be sticky this weekend is it home or in away?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: whats my name on March 10, 2011, 01:52:19 PM
Sean Cavanagh had an All Star and all Ireland at 20. Aidan Walsh had an All Star and all Ireland at 20. thats easy to say when they play with good teams wining games for fun unfortunately givney plays with cavan and wining 1 game in the championship is the best people can expect from the team. on a brighter note nesty is back might be a little rusty as he hasn't played in so long but its a great boost to the side and hopefully we get a win on our travels in limerick win this one and we are in the promotion race after a very shaky start
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BigMac on March 10, 2011, 03:09:08 PM
That's exactly my point WMN – Sean Cavanagh and Aidan Walsh were playing with good teams with masses of good players and they didn't feel the need to keep them in bubble wrap. Cavan win one championship game a year, roughly, in the last ten years. What would we be keeping him safe for? We don't have enough players to wait until he is 25 to let him play. He is now 22, time to get him out there and let him live up to all the talk. I can't believe he isn't playing this weekend. If he was fit enough to play midfield for Sligo in the Sigerson two weeks ago, surely he is fit enough for us against Limerick.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on March 10, 2011, 04:14:18 PM
Pierson is injured. Will be out for 2-3 weeks.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on March 10, 2011, 05:05:13 PM
Quote from: BigMac on March 10, 2011, 03:09:08 PM
That's exactly my point WMN – Sean Cavanagh and Aidan Walsh were playing with good teams with masses of good players and they didn't feel the need to keep them in bubble wrap. Cavan win one championship game a year, roughly, in the last ten years. What would we be keeping him safe for? We don't have enough players to wait until he is 25 to let him play. He is now 22, time to get him out there and let him live up to all the talk. I can't believe he isn't playing this weekend. If he was fit enough to play midfield for Sligo in the Sigerson two weeks ago, surely he is fit enough for us against Limerick.

With out knowing the facts i would imagine there is some injury reason why he isnt starting, its not as if Cavan have a policy of bubble wrapping young players.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on March 10, 2011, 08:33:10 PM
According to the celt givney has an ankle injury
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on March 12, 2011, 01:30:32 PM
Saw on previous post that throw in was at 1.00 but according to Haganstand today, throw in at the  Limerick venue is at 12.45pm on Sunday afternoon.

You might miss 15mins of brilliance.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on March 12, 2011, 02:07:19 PM
Good to see Nesty Smith back in a cavan jersey. He was probaly cavans best player last year.. Great free taker and brillant passing ability,surprised he isnt at centre forward with fannin on the wing. Brennan is back aswell which is good,he didnt play the last few league games. I heard butsy carrol left the panal last week, heard he didnt commitment which was a bit of a surprise,although he enjoys the student life probaly too much for a county player.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on March 13, 2011, 02:26:13 PM
Lose by 4. Typical Cavan performance, losing by 5 at half time, work themselves back into the game, level it up with 4 minutes left and then get a man sent off and give away a sloppy goal. Defence were mowed through time and again.. Division 4 beckons.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dougal on March 13, 2011, 02:30:08 PM
Quote from: boojangles on March 13, 2011, 02:22:11 PM
Quote from: Dougal on March 13, 2011, 02:16:59 PM
game over,yet again jordan gets sent off,whats that?twice in 5 starts?

Thats what ya get when ya play lads out of position. One corner back sent off and the other replaced in the 1st half.

thought id bring this back to the cavan thread.who replaced toastie?where does jordan normally play for lavey?if i remember rightly he came on at wing forward in the junior match against louth last year?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on March 13, 2011, 02:41:49 PM
Quote from: Dougal on March 13, 2011, 02:30:08 PM
Quote from: boojangles on March 13, 2011, 02:22:11 PM
Quote from: Dougal on March 13, 2011, 02:16:59 PM
game over,yet again jordan gets sent off,whats that?twice in 5 starts?

Thats what ya get when ya play lads out of position. One corner back sent off and the other replaced in the 1st half.

thought id bring this back to the cavan thread.who replaced toastie?where does jordan normally play for lavey?if i remember rightly he came on at wing forward in the junior match against louth last year?

Dane O Dowd came on for Toasty. Another lad who is not a corner back.
Jordan plays around the middle for Lavey. Could be Midfield or Half Forward. He started wing forward against Louth that day.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on March 13, 2011, 03:01:37 PM
Looks like we are heading for divison 4 now alright which is the right level for this team.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Ollie on March 13, 2011, 03:31:49 PM
That's the second time this year Stephan Jordan has got himself sent off which resulted in Cavan losing the game. He did the same against Tyrone in the Mckenna cup semi-final. The backline is a major issue for us. We don't seem to have any quality backs who can actually defend. The likes of O'Dowd, McCutcheon, Sheridan are all attack-minded defenders..
On the plus side we did give a spirited display for most of the second half until the sending off. Good seeing Lyng, Givney and Keating involved today. We can now forget about promotion and concentrate on winning the remainder of our games or at least built on this performance.
Things aren't going great but I'm a little bit more optimistic now than I was this time last year.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BigMac on March 13, 2011, 04:12:51 PM
Anyone who knows Stephen Jordan will know that he is not a dirty player. His sending off against Tyrone was very harsh, as the video on this, a few pages back will show. I said before that Stephen is not a corner back and that I hoped they weren't doing the same thing with him as they did with Keith Fannin. Just sticking him in there because he is a good footballer, but not a corner back. As Boo says he usually plays midfield or half forward for Lavey, although that doesn't mean he shouldn't be able to tackle. Anyone at the game, was it a straight red, two yellows and did he deserve it?
That puts promotion out the window and now a fight to stay up. At the minute we are the worst ambassadors for senior male gaelic games (bar Paul Brady and a few other handballers), with our hurlers rooted to the bottom of division 4 on -79 scoring difference from 3 games, and a huge possibility now our footballers could be joining them in the division 4.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Ollie on March 13, 2011, 04:28:48 PM
Quote from: BigMac on March 13, 2011, 04:12:51 PM
Anyone who knows Stephen Jordan will know that he is not a dirty player. His sending off against Tyrone was very harsh, as the video on this, a few pages back will show. I said before that Stephen is not a corner back and that I hoped they weren't doing the same thing with him as they did with Keith Fannin. Just sticking him in there because he is a good footballer, but not a corner back. As Boo says he usually plays midfield or half forward for Lavey, although that doesn't mean he shouldn't be able to tackle. Anyone at the game, was it a straight red, two yellows and did he deserve it?
That puts promotion out the window and now a fight to stay up. At the minute we are the worst ambassadors for senior male gaelic games (bar Paul Brady and a few other handballers), with our hurlers rooted to the bottom of division 4 on -79 scoring difference from 3 games, and a huge possibility now our footballers could be joining them in the division 4.

It was two yellows BigMac.. Hopefully the U21s can enjoy a bit more success than the seniors.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on March 13, 2011, 09:01:03 PM
Quote from: BigMac on March 13, 2011, 04:12:51 PM
Anyone who knows Stephen Jordan will know that he is not a dirty player. His sending off against Tyrone was very harsh, as the video on this, a few pages back will show. I said before that Stephen is not a corner back and that I hoped they weren't doing the same thing with him as they did with Keith Fannin. Just sticking him in there because he is a good footballer, but not a corner back. As Boo says he usually plays midfield or half forward for Lavey, although that doesn't mean he shouldn't be able to tackle. Anyone at the game, was it a straight red, two yellows and did he deserve it?
That puts promotion out the window and now a fight to stay up. At the minute we are the worst ambassadors for senior male gaelic games (bar Paul Brady and a few other handballers), with our hurlers rooted to the bottom of division 4 on -79 scoring difference from 3 games, and a huge possibility now our footballers could be joining them in the division 4.

I wouldn't even mention our hurlers in the same breath as our footballers... Following cavan football can be frustrating and painful at times but the Hurlers's results are disgraceful and an embarrassment
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Breffni_Yank on March 13, 2011, 10:17:52 PM
I wasn't down in Limerick but heard a few snippets on the radio and was talking to someone in the pub there who was at it. Another case of getting close but not sealing the deal I gather.

I dunno, you would really have to ask the question are this team learning anything at all? How many times has this happened now?

We still have no full-back and neither of our corner-backs are actual corner-backs at all with their clubs. It really does make you wonder sometimes......
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on March 13, 2011, 10:41:50 PM
Alan Clarke- the stand-out Centre Back in last years club championships,being played at cornerback???

Stephen Jordan-whom at least to my knowledge has never played in the full back line for Lavey,yet is played at cornerback at IC level.

Two ridiculous selection decisions on behalf of the management.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on March 13, 2011, 10:50:53 PM
Lads, we are going to have to give this team and management time. Maybe they are trying lads out of position cos they are struggling to find talent. I'd also say there are a fair few county corner backs playing more central roles with their clubs so not that unusual. Biggest mistake they made was making Johnston captain. He is no leader imo.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Breffni_Yank on March 13, 2011, 11:11:52 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on March 13, 2011, 10:41:50 PM
Alan Clarke- the stand-out Centre Back in last years club championships,being played at cornerback???

Stephen Jordan-whom at least to my knowledge has never played in the full back line for Lavey,yet is played at cornerback at IC level.

Two ridiculous selection decisions on behalf of the management.

I'm sure there are loads of corner-backs in the country who play more central roles with their clubs but for me, it's about finding a player with good enough raw attributes who can be polished off to make a good corner-back. Like Clarke doesn't have the change of pace needed in the corner. I would much rather see him in a half-back line. I don't know a whole pile about Jordan to be honest but I gather he is more of a ball player than a nuisance defender. Would that be correct?

The captain thing was mentioned on here before. I think one of the real problems with the current crop is there are no real leaders at all. McCutcheon or Clarke would have been my choice but at the same time are either of them guaranteed their game come championship?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BigMac on March 13, 2011, 11:25:57 PM
I think you are spot on there Yank. Jordan is very good with the ball in his hand, perfectly both footed, and a good energy, but whether he is the sticky, annoying corner back type, like his brother Joey is, I'm not so sure. I think he has the "raw attributes", but I can really see a Keith Fannin thing here, where we wasted one of our better attacking players in the corner just because they had the "raw attributes".
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cogito on March 14, 2011, 12:19:17 AM
I've seen two of Cavan's game this year including today's and I have to say I would be worried. Promotion is gone now and its all about consolidationg.

For the remainder of the league, If I was Andrews, I work off this spine and see what he can find to complement it. Cavan should have won today and they should have beaten Westmeath. If small things are sorted out, the team really isn't that bad.

                     James Reilly
?                            ?                        ?

McKeever          McCutcheon              ?
           Reilly      McKiernan

Flanagan               ?                          ?
Johnston             Givney             Pearson
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on March 14, 2011, 12:22:29 AM
Listening to the Limerick coverage of the game today it seemed that every time they ran at our defence we were in danger of giving up a goal.. We have 6 good players that are more suited to the wing back positions.. Hopefully the Minor and U-21's can concentrate on developing some full back line players and we won't have to continue the trend of having a host of wing backs and no corner backs.. There was a lad from Killeshandra playing for the U-21s last year at corner back and he was very good, even in the final.. Where is he now?

The defence needs shoring up though and while I was always glad that Cavan never resorted to playing a sweeper like the rest of Ulster, perhaps it's the only way we could tighten things up..

Cogito surely Nesty and Cullivan would be included as two of our better players?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cogito on March 14, 2011, 12:41:23 AM
Quote from: Westside on March 14, 2011, 12:22:29 AM
Listening to the Limerick coverage of the game today it seemed that every time they ran at our defence we were in danger of giving up a goal.. We have 6 good players that are more suited to the wing back positions.. Hopefully the Minor and U-21's can concentrate on developing some full back line players and we won't have to continue the trend of having a host of wing backs and no corner backs.. There was a lad from Killeshandra playing for the U-21s last year at corner back and he was very good, even in the final.. Where is he now?

The defence needs shoring up though and while I was always glad that Cavan never resorted to playing a sweeper like the rest of Ulster, perhaps it's the only way we could tighten things up..

Cogito surely Nesty and Cullivan would be included as two of our better players?

Yeah, I certainly would regard them as two of the better players but today was the first time I saw Nesty this year and he looks like he has a fair bit of work to do so that was the reason I didn't put him in. I'm sure he will be there when championship arrives. Cullivan too was very good in patches today. I just think McKiernan is one of the most natural midfielders I have ever seen and having someone like Reilly beside him to do some of the donkey work will help him. For all his talent, I still don't know Cullivan's position and I have seen him a few times over the years for DCU and Cavan.

The full-back line needs serious work. And yes, everytime they ran at Cavan the defence just opened up.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on March 14, 2011, 02:06:15 AM
Quote from: cogito on March 14, 2011, 12:41:23 AM
Quote from: Westside on March 14, 2011, 12:22:29 AM
Listening to the Limerick coverage of the game today it seemed that every time they ran at our defence we were in danger of giving up a goal.. We have 6 good players that are more suited to the wing back positions.. Hopefully the Minor and U-21's can concentrate on developing some full back line players and we won't have to continue the trend of having a host of wing backs and no corner backs.. There was a lad from Killeshandra playing for the U-21s last year at corner back and he was very good, even in the final.. Where is he now?

The defence needs shoring up though and while I was always glad that Cavan never resorted to playing a sweeper like the rest of Ulster, perhaps it's the only way we could tighten things up..

Cogito surely Nesty and Cullivan would be included as two of our better players?

Yeah, I certainly would regard them as two of the better players but today was the first time I saw Nesty this year and he looks like he has a fair bit of work to do so that was the reason I didn't put him in. I'm sure he will be there when championship arrives. Cullivan too was very good in patches today. I just think McKiernan is one of the most natural midfielders I have ever seen and having someone like Reilly beside him to do some of the donkey work will help him. For all his talent, I still don't know Cullivan's position and I have seen him a few times over the years for DCU and Cavan.

The full-back line needs serious work. And yes, everytime they ran at Cavan the defence just opened up.

How did Padraig Reily play today cognito?
Rays best position for the county in my opinion is as a wing forward offering a third option for kickouts.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cogito on March 14, 2011, 10:11:53 AM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on March 14, 2011, 02:06:15 AM
Quote from: cogito on March 14, 2011, 12:41:23 AM
Quote from: Westside on March 14, 2011, 12:22:29 AM
Listening to the Limerick coverage of the game today it seemed that every time they ran at our defence we were in danger of giving up a goal.. We have 6 good players that are more suited to the wing back positions.. Hopefully the Minor and U-21's can concentrate on developing some full back line players and we won't have to continue the trend of having a host of wing backs and no corner backs.. There was a lad from Killeshandra playing for the U-21s last year at corner back and he was very good, even in the final.. Where is he now?

The defence needs shoring up though and while I was always glad that Cavan never resorted to playing a sweeper like the rest of Ulster, perhaps it's the only way we could tighten things up..

Cogito surely Nesty and Cullivan would be included as two of our better players?

Yeah, I certainly would regard them as two of the better players but today was the first time I saw Nesty this year and he looks like he has a fair bit of work to do so that was the reason I didn't put him in. I'm sure he will be there when championship arrives. Cullivan too was very good in patches today. I just think McKiernan is one of the most natural midfielders I have ever seen and having someone like Reilly beside him to do some of the donkey work will help him. For all his talent, I still don't know Cullivan's position and I have seen him a few times over the years for DCU and Cavan.

The full-back line needs serious work. And yes, everytime they ran at Cavan the defence just opened up.

How did Padraig Reily play today cognito?
Rays best position for the county in my opinion is as a wing forward offering a third option for kickouts.

He did fine. I mean he is not really a natural midfielder but he makes up for it in work-rate and he does all the defensive side of things at midfield. With a team like Cavan I think you need an assigned midfielder willing to do all that kind of work. Cullivan and McKiernan or McKiernan and Givney at midfield would be too attacking in my opinion.

In fairness to Cavan yesterday they should have won that game and I woudln't be fooled by Limerick's current league form. They have some fine footballers and have been knocking on the door of a Munster championship for a while.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on March 14, 2011, 12:44:39 PM
I read a Limerick supporter's report of the game where it said that "The Cavan defence was, by far, the most porous Limerick have come up against this year"

Worrying..
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on March 14, 2011, 07:30:37 PM
Don't know what it is with us in Cavan but we have got into an incredible habit of trying to make defenders out of players whose natural ability lies much further forward. The first I ever saw of Anthony Forde was in the 96 Under 21 All Ireland Final and he was superb at half forward. One year later he rescued us with a late Score against Fermanagh and an Ulster Title followed. Two years later I saw him in the piss pours of rain down in Wexford playing a wing half back and lookikng totally lost regarding making a tackle. In fairness he stuck at it and wasn't the worst over the years, never a natural out and out defender mind. Peter Reilly burst onto the inter county scene as a half forward and spent a fair bit of his time in defence after that. God knows how many other cases since then.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on March 14, 2011, 07:34:58 PM
Quote from: Westside on March 14, 2011, 12:22:29 AM
Listening to the Limerick coverage of the game today it seemed that every time they ran at our defence we were in danger of giving up a goal.. We have 6 good players that are more suited to the wing back positions.. Hopefully the Minor and U-21's can concentrate on developing some full back line players and we won't have to continue the trend of having a host of wing backs and no corner backs.. There was a lad from Killeshandra playing for the U-21s last year at corner back and he was very good, even in the final.. Where is he now?

The defence needs shoring up though and while I was always glad that Cavan never resorted to playing a sweeper like the rest of Ulster, perhaps it's the only way we could tighten things up..

Cogito surely Nesty and Cullivan would be included as two of our better p

layers?

Daragh Tighe and an excellent player. Def worth a try but he is a small lad unfortunately maybe too small for county football.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on March 14, 2011, 07:50:48 PM
Tighe, that's the lad I'm thinking of. I wouldn't be overly concerned with height if he was a natural corner back.. Look at Sligo's corner backs who got heaps of praise last year. Where does he play for Killeshandra?
AG39 makes a good point, we develop lots of decent forwards but no natural defenders. Very strange for a County whose greatest heroes were defenders, JJ Reilly, Gabriel Kelly, Ollie Brady etc..
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on March 14, 2011, 08:14:57 PM
Quote from: Westside on March 14, 2011, 07:50:48 PM
Tighe, that's the lad I'm thinking of. I wouldn't be overly concerned with height if he was a natural corner back.. Look at Sligo's corner backs who got heaps of praise last year. Where does he play for Killeshandra?
AG39 makes a good point, we develop lots of decent forwards but no natural defenders. Very strange for a County whose greatest heroes were defenders, JJ Reilly, Gabriel Kelly, Ollie Brady etc..

Haven't seen Killeshandra much these days but fairly sure he is playing wing back for them but he is a really tight sticky corner back.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on March 14, 2011, 08:38:15 PM
Report from the indo, check out the player ratings...

Pa Ranahan's late goal secured Limerick their first win of the campaign.

Backed by a strong breeze Limerick led by 0-10 to 0-5 at the break, but two points by former Dublin All-Ireland U-21 winner Gareth Smith reduced the gap.

But Limerick responded with a goal on 46 minutes when Shannon rugby player Stephen Kelly raced past four defenders and slammed the ball home.

With five minutes to go Cavan drew level, but Ger Collins' free edged Limerick back in front and then, after Cavan's Stephen Jordan had been sent off for a second yellow card, James Kelly's lay-off set Ranahan surging clear for his decisive goal.

Man of the Match: Ger Collins

Scorers -- Limerick: G Collins 0-5 (5f), I Ryan 0-4 (1f), P Ranahan, S Kelly 1-0 each, M Sheehan, E O'Connor, S Buckley, J Cooke, J Mullane 0-1 each. Cavan: G Smith (1f, 1'65'), S Johnston (3f) 0-3 each, M Cahill, C Mackey, E Keating 0-2 each, J McCutcheon, R Cullivan, D Givney 0-1 each.

Limerick -- B Scanlon 5; M Riordan 6, S Gallagher, 5, L O'Dwyer 4; J Riordan,5, J McCarthy 5, P Ranahan 6; T Lee 5, J Galvin 7; E O'Connor 5, S Kelly 6, S Buckley 5; G Collins 7, J Mullane 4, I Ryan 7. Subs: M Sheehan 7 for O'Dwyer (7); J Cooke 6 for O'Connor (61), E Hogan 6 for Mullane (55).

Cavan -- J Reilly 5; A Clarke 5, D Sheridan 4, S Jordan 6; M McKeever 5, J McCutcheon 6, M Cahill 6; R Cullivan 4, P O'Reilly 5; R Flanagan 5,G Smith 6, K Fannin 5; C Mackey 6, M Brennan 5, S Johnston 5. Subs: D Dowd 6 for Clarke (31), E Keating 5 for Fannin (h-t), D Givney 4 for Brennan (h-t), M Lyng 6 for McKeever (56).

Ref -- M Collins (Cork)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dougal on March 14, 2011, 10:27:24 PM
Quote from: Westside on March 14, 2011, 07:50:48 PM
Tighe, that's the lad I'm thinking of. I wouldn't be overly concerned with height if he was a natural corner back.. Look at Sligo's corner backs who got heaps of praise last year. Where does he play for Killeshandra?
AG39 makes a good point, we develop lots of decent forwards but no natural defenders. Very strange for a County whose greatest heroes were defenders, JJ Reilly, Gabriel Kelly, Ollie Brady etc..

tighe was injured for all of the ulster league,not sure if he'll play any part in the u21 match either.always plays in the corner,great reader of a game.very small for intercounty but would be worth taking a look at.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on March 14, 2011, 11:43:51 PM
Jesus, are we back to the too small for county football b&&llox.

Ogie Moran, Peter Canavan, Martin and James McHugh, Tony Scullion (well he didn't look too tall),James McCartin
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Breffni_Yank on March 15, 2011, 12:40:13 AM
Quote from: cogito on March 14, 2011, 12:19:17 AM
I've seen two of Cavan's game this year including today's and I have to say I would be worried. Promotion is gone now and its all about consolidationg.

For the remainder of the league, If I was Andrews, I work off this spine and see what he can find to complement it. Cavan should have won today and they should have beaten Westmeath. If small things are sorted out, the team really isn't that bad.

                     James Reilly
?                            ?                        ?

McKeever          McCutcheon              ?
           Reilly      McKiernan

Flanagan               ?                          ?
Johnston             Givney             Pearson

Interesting comment Cogito. I presume you are a Cavan man or perhaps have a Cavan wife (god help ya) if you know that much about a struggling team in Division Three?

The spine of the team I would pick would be fairly similar. What I would like to see done, depending on how this u21 team does this week is fill up a few of the question marks with a few from that team. Just to bring some freshness into the team. Some of the current bunch I have really given up on.

Away from all that jazz how are all your clubs shaping up. My own spot ran a 'Take me Out' night there on Saturday. Jaysus, I haven had as good a laugh in a while. Absolutely brilliant night
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on March 15, 2011, 11:02:46 PM
Quote from: Denn Forever on March 14, 2011, 11:43:51 PM
Jesus, are we back to the too small for county football b&&llox.

Ogie Moran, Peter Canavan, Martin and James McHugh, Tony Scullion (well he didn't look too tall),James McCartin


Think the problem we have is that we have a team of below average size lads and I can't think of ANYBODY on the current panel you would consider to be an enforcer (Ogie Moran was no dwarf and he had the likes of Jacko and Bomber to provide the heft and win the ball). If there are lads of any size about the county with half the ability of the names you mention get them into the starting 15 straight away.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dougal on March 16, 2011, 08:51:17 AM
Anyone hear a team for tonights game?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: angellady on March 16, 2011, 02:52:59 PM
Quote from: anglocelt39 on March 15, 2011, 11:02:46 PM
Quote from: Denn Forever on March 14, 2011, 11:43:51 PM
Jesus, are we back to the too small for county football b&&llox.

Ogie Moran, Peter Canavan, Martin and James McHugh, Tony Scullion (well he didn't look too tall),James McCartin


Think the problem we have is that we have a team of below average size lads and I can't think of ANYBODY on the current panel you would consider to be an enforcer (Ogie Moran was no dwarf and he had the likes of Jacko and Bomber to provide the heft and win the ball). If there are lads of any size about the county with half the ability of the names you mention get them into the starting 15 straight away.

here we go with the innovative 'bigger men argument' yet again. very insightful angloceltman!!!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on March 16, 2011, 03:31:02 PM
Quote from: angellady on March 16, 2011, 02:52:59 PM
Quote from: anglocelt39 on March 15, 2011, 11:02:46 PM
Quote from: Denn Forever on March 14, 2011, 11:43:51 PM
Jesus, are we back to the too small for county football b&&llox.

Ogie Moran, Peter Canavan, Martin and James McHugh, Tony Scullion (well he didn't look too tall),James McCartin


Think the problem we have is that we have a team of below average size lads and I can't think of ANYBODY on the current panel you would consider to be an enforcer (Ogie Moran was no dwarf and he had the likes of Jacko and Bomber to provide the heft and win the ball). If there are lads of any size about the county with half the ability of the names you mention get them into the starting 15 straight away.

here we go with the innovative 'bigger men argument' yet again. very insightful angloceltman!!!

He does have a point.

Is Tomas Corr injured he doesn't seem to have featured in the last couple of games.  I would have him in the half forward line.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on March 16, 2011, 11:01:29 PM
GAA Presidential award winner.  Some consolation for the defeat tonight.
Well done John Joe.

Ladies Football
John Joe Brady, Mullahoran, Cavan
John Joe Brady's association with Ladies Football goes back to 1976 and he has held practically all the positions of administration and management of football teams.  John Joe was the first Chairman of the Mullahoran Club in the years 1975 and 1982 and from 1995 to '99. He helped bring the Mullahoran Ladies to the top of the ladder in 1977 when they won the first ever All-Ireland Club final. 

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on March 16, 2011, 11:04:06 PM
Was up in Brewster today for the U21 game. Good win by 6 points. We were very good in the 1st half and were 10 pts up at half time. Niall McDermott excellent at FF and Barry Reilly put in some fabulous ball. Fermanagh put on a sweeper in 2nd half and Cavan totally lost their way. The fast ball was replaced by slow lateral hand passing but we were never in danger of losing. Suprised that management didn't have a plan for the inevitable sweeper in the 2nd half. On the negative Fermanagh missed 5 scorable frees and 2 good goal chances. Gearoid Keirnan very poor in midfield. Keepers kicks poor in 2nd half and management needs to have a plan. But a win is a win but improvements will be needed next day.

btw - Referee was abysmal. Ruined the game and gave Fermanagh soft free after soft free. He wouldn't allow any advantage. Darragh Tighe got a tick, a yellow and another tick and didn't commit a foul for any. They had to sub him at half time before this fool sent him off. Where does the GAA get these eejits from?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on March 17, 2011, 12:28:01 AM
Number 15 was class for us too tonight I thought, Packie Leddy is it? Gearoid had a poor evening allright.. He's injured though I think. But he'll need a bigger performance if Cavan want to progress. Cavan made awful hard work if it, were never in real danger but lost their way completely. Some fantastic football in patches, Barry Reilly sprayed around some excellent passes, the most intelligent player on the field by a distance.

I think this Cavan defense is too weak to win Ulster.. Fermanagh got through far too easily for their goal and O'Mara made two fine saves. A better team could open them up.

Agree with myles about the ref he did all in his power to disrupt this game, some baffling yellow cards handed out, to both sides it has to be said! No consistency at all, absolutely terrible..

Donegal in the next round. Prepare for a packed defense and a tight game. Cavan had no plan for it last year I sincerely hope there will be one this year.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Breffni_Yank on March 17, 2011, 12:46:34 AM
Got down to the game myself tonight and must say it was fairly enjoyable. Am i wrong or was there a decent oul Cavan contingent in the stand? That first half performance was as good as I have seen from any Cavan team in a few years. McDermott was unmarkable and they have a few clever footballers in there - especially Reilly. He has the makings of a serious player. I thought McKiernan did rightly and he still got up to kick a few points.

The second half was pretty desperate though and it was like they completely collapsed. On another night it could have been different and Fermanagh definetly should of had at least one more goal. I don't know how O'Meara pushed that first one onto the bar but his kicks were much poorer in the second half and that didn't help to relieve any pressure on the backs.

If one sweeper caused so much bother tonight you would be worried about how they will react to Donegal next week. All feedback from lads around me during the game said they play a swarm defense. Is that safe to presume?

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on March 17, 2011, 08:11:04 AM
Quote from: Breffni_Yank on March 17, 2011, 12:46:34 AM
Got down to the game myself tonight and must say it was fairly enjoyable. Am i wrong or was there a decent oul Cavan contingent in the stand? That first half performance was as good as I have seen from any Cavan team in a few years. McDermott was unmarkable and they have a few clever footballers in there - especially Reilly. He has the makings of a serious player. I thought McKiernan did rightly and he still got up to kick a few points.

The second half was pretty desperate though and it was like they completely collapsed. On another night it could have been different and Fermanagh definetly should of had at least one more goal. I don't know how O'Meara pushed that first one onto the bar but his kicks were much poorer in the second half and that didn't help to relieve any pressure on the backs.

If one sweeper caused so much bother tonight you would be worried about how they will react to Donegal next week. All feedback from lads around me during the game said they play a swarm defense. Is that safe to presume?

Id say so, last yr in the final they had 13 behind the ball at all times. It was atrocious to watch. Packie Leddy was good enough Westie but whats the point in having a lad of his size in the FF line and never putting in a bomb to see what he could do. 90% of ball was to McDermott and once the sweeper went in front of him they had no plan B - same as last year. The big bomb to Leddy should be plan B imo.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on March 17, 2011, 08:53:50 AM
McDermott is good enough in the air aswell so i dont know why they didnt bomb it in over the sweeper in the second half.  Someone that was with me reckons that Cavan just tried to do enough in the second half to win the game (as in stop Fermanagh from scoring) but i wouldnt like to see them do that against a better team Fermanagh had plenty of chances.  At times it looked like them were doing their best to let them back into the game with sloppy passing and bad decison making.

Big Murphy will be hard stopped the next day.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on March 17, 2011, 08:58:19 AM
Quote from: tommysmith on March 17, 2011, 08:53:50 AM
McDermott is good enough in the air aswell so i dont know why they didnt bomb it in over the sweeper in the second half.  Someone that was with me reckons that Cavan just tried to do enough in the second half to win the game (as in stop Fermanagh from scoring) but i wouldnt like to see them do that against a better team Fermanagh had plenty of chances.  At times it looked like them were doing their best to let them back into the game with sloppy passing and bad decison making.

Big Murphy will be hard stopped the next day.

I don't think he is U21 this year. They do have some senior players in Dermot Molloy, Mark McHugh and Peter McNelis. Their horrible defensive swarm will be the biggest issue for Cavan as we have shown over and over at all levels that we haven't a clue how to break these defenses down.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on March 17, 2011, 11:52:54 AM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on March 17, 2011, 08:58:19 AM
Quote from: tommysmith on March 17, 2011, 08:53:50 AM
McDermott is good enough in the air aswell so i dont know why they didnt bomb it in over the sweeper in the second half.  Someone that was with me reckons that Cavan just tried to do enough in the second half to win the game (as in stop Fermanagh from scoring) but i wouldnt like to see them do that against a better team Fermanagh had plenty of chances.  At times it looked like them were doing their best to let them back into the game with sloppy passing and bad decison making.

Big Murphy will be hard stopped the next day.

I don't think he is U21 this year. They do have some senior players in Dermot Molloy, Mark McHugh and Peter McNelis. Their horrible defensive swarm will be the biggest issue for Cavan as we have shown over and over at all levels that we haven't a clue how to break these defenses down.

Thank god for that but they still have a lot off talent there.  Is there a venue/date for this?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on March 17, 2011, 12:01:41 PM
It has to be neutral so I am guessing Brewster again. I think it is supposed to be next Wednesday but that might have changed given Tyrone and Down drew yesterday.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on March 17, 2011, 12:43:46 PM
I was at the far end of the stand to the end that Cavan were attacking in the first half, was it Leddy or McDermott that flicked the ball up and was through on goal before being hauled back? Brilliant piece of skill. Gearoid was crowded at every kickout and they broke any high ball that went in on him. Such a pity we don't have another dominant midfielder to accompany him.. Last year's 2 victories were built on winning midfield. I thought Niall McKiernan was a certain starter?

I would be surprised if we got past Donegal given their forward line and tactics coupled with our leaky looking defence.. Mark McHugh on the 40 will take some stopping and they need to be prepared well for the packed defence.. If the management show the same tactical naivety as last year and indeed against Fermanagh then I can't see us progressing. Another chance at an Ulster final would be fantastic so hopefully they can address the weaknesses.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on March 17, 2011, 04:42:56 PM
Quote from: Westside on March 17, 2011, 12:43:46 PM
If the management show the same tactical naivety as last year and indeed against Fermanagh then I can't see us progressing.

+1. Last year's final was lost on the line, playing Russian Roulette going one-on-one with Murphy on the edge of the square. Our full back might have dealt with 99 out of 100 balls in that night but Murphy only had to get it right once to vindicate their tactic and so it proved, and it was the goal that won the game. We never tried Givney at 14 either and insisted on playing into the swarm defence's hands by running at them up the middle. You'd just shake your head. I'd have my doubts for this year too but naturally hope I'm very wrong.

And the ref was atrocious that night too!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on March 18, 2011, 12:19:00 PM
Very good result the other night I'm a small bit surprised people are being pessimistic about the next game as I reckon we have any number of reasons to be positive:

1. Team bas a bit of a winning habit Has won Hastings Cup and looks like some of the teams we overcame in that are useful enough this year, based on championship results;
2. Plenty of lads available from last years campaign;
3. We had as comfortable a win as anybody in the first round and emptied the bench in the process;
4. Donegal minus Murphy are a different proposition from last year. Not sure how they got on against Antrim but I think Antrim kicked a rake of wides.
5. Whatever about us having no plan B it seems Donegal have only one plan and if it doesn't work it's try plan A again.


Think a few people have mentioned that a lot will be decided on the sideline against Donegal, at least we know the sort of annoying negative game they will adopt and we just have to have our lads geared up to counteract, the one positive in all this is that we are unlikely to be surprised by their approach. If we could jump them by a few points early one would be very interesting to see if they have another way of playing/responding.

Quietly hopeful of a good result
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on March 20, 2011, 10:11:21 AM
Anyone know the team for todays game, or does anyone care?

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on March 20, 2011, 11:01:16 AM
Quote from: tommysmith on March 20, 2011, 10:11:21 AM
Anyone know the team for todays game, or does anyone care?

The panel still didnt know it by lunchtime yesterday. They were travelling down yesterday evening so was probably announced last night.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up-again on March 20, 2011, 11:26:36 AM
This team went up on Twitter last night by the PRO -

JReilly,AClarke,DSheridan,DO'Dowd,MMcKeever,JMcCutcheon,DO'Reilly,RCullivan,PReilly,RFlangan,GSmith,CMackey,BFitzpatrick,MBrennan,SJohnston.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on March 20, 2011, 02:11:51 PM
Quote from: put-it-up-again on March 20, 2011, 11:26:36 AM
This team went up on Twitter last night by the PRO -

JReilly,AClarke,DSheridan,DO'Dowd,MMcKeever,JMcCutcheon,DO'Reilly,RCullivan,PReilly,RFlangan,GSmith,CMackey,BFitzpatrick,MBrennan,SJohnston.

I dont think that team is good enough to come out of Wexford with a win.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on March 20, 2011, 02:30:01 PM
http://www.southeastradio.ie/listen_live/index.php

Cavan game on Wexford Radio for those who don't want to listen to Tynan..
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on March 20, 2011, 03:48:19 PM
another f**king masterclass
1-13 to 1-07 down with 10 minutes left.
Enough of this shite, may aswell concentrate on club football for the year.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Breffni_Yank on March 20, 2011, 03:58:39 PM
Are we heading for Division Four?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on March 20, 2011, 04:02:08 PM
Quote from: Breffni_Yank on March 20, 2011, 03:58:39 PM
Are we heading for Division Four?

Last minute goal,puts some sort of respectable look on it. 1-14 to 2-09
3 missed goal chances for Cavan according to the wexford commentary.
Wexford dominated though.
We may very well be bottom  of division 3 tonight.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: club_man on March 20, 2011, 04:02:35 PM
Quote from: Breffni_Yank on March 20, 2011, 03:58:39 PM
Are we heading for Division Four?
Its looking that way alright. Sounded like terrible stuff from us again. According to commentators Wexford should have won by 10 points only for they took the foot of the throttle. Things really are bad..
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on March 20, 2011, 04:03:18 PM
lost by 2 but it seems that score seriously flatters Cavan. According to the Wexford commentators they should have won by 10 points. Div 4 seems to be where we are going. Seems to be a huge amount of early subs being made in every game too.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on March 20, 2011, 04:08:00 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on March 20, 2011, 04:03:18 PM
lost by 2 but it seems that score seriously flatters Cavan. According to the Wexford commentators they should have won by 10 points. Div 4 seems to be where we are going. Seems to be a huge amount of early subs being made in every game too.

Thats not a good sign with regards to the managements competency,if they have to change things around so early.They obviously havent a clue what their strongest starting team is.
I always took a positibe view with regards the talent in the panel,i believed their was talent here,but thats been proven wrong.
A cull of this panel needs to take place.
A number of players  need to be shown the door.
Might aswell bring in,last years and this years under 21's and let them learn in division 4 next year.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on March 20, 2011, 04:08:58 PM
Cavan missed 2 good goal chances in the closing stages, got one at the death to make the scoreboard look a little better so lost by 2 in the end but were never really in the game. Flanagan was our best player from what I could gather.

Other results went against us (or were the last I heard) so Division 4 here we come barring two wins from our last 2 games. Personally I wouldn't be very upset if we got relegated.. The reality is we're a Divison 4 team.

Hopefully the U-21s can keep going and give us something to cheer for.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Breffni_Yank on March 20, 2011, 04:15:19 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on March 20, 2011, 04:08:00 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on March 20, 2011, 04:03:18 PM
lost by 2 but it seems that score seriously flatters Cavan. According to the Wexford commentators they should have won by 10 points. Div 4 seems to be where we are going. Seems to be a huge amount of early subs being made in every game too.

Thats not a good sign with regards to the managements competency,if they have to change things around so early.They obviously havent a clue what their strongest starting team is.
I always took a positibe view with regards the talent in the panel,i believed their was talent here,but thats been proven wrong.
A cull of this panel needs to take place.
A number of players  need to be shown the door.
Might aswell bring in,last years and this years under 21's and let them learn in division 4 next year.

I have heard plenty argue that our u21's should be learning their trade right now in Division Three. Should some of the 21's be playing? Donegal had two or three out last night, so did Monaghan. It's a hard argument and I don't think there is a right answer to it.

I still don't think talent is the fundamental problem with this bunch. For me it's mental attitude.

The only place I can get any inspiration from is Roscommon right now. Post Tommy Carr, they have shown what you can do if you get one decent bunch to come through together and stick together.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Breffni_Yank on March 20, 2011, 04:17:14 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on March 20, 2011, 04:08:00 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on March 20, 2011, 04:03:18 PM
lost by 2 but it seems that score seriously flatters Cavan. According to the Wexford commentators they should have won by 10 points. Div 4 seems to be where we are going. Seems to be a huge amount of early subs being made in every game too.

Thats not a good sign with regards to the managements competency,if they have to change things around so early.They obviously havent a clue what their strongest starting team is.
I always took a positibe view with regards the talent in the panel,i believed their was talent here,but thats been proven wrong.
A cull of this panel needs to take place.
A number of players  need to be shown the door.
Might aswell bring in,last years and this years under 21's and let them learn in division 4 next year.

I think the last few years have shown the rot goes deeper than management no?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dougal on March 20, 2011, 04:19:20 PM
were heading for division 4 by the looks of things,which i think is better than just about staying in div3,at least in division 4 we should be fit to bring in some young players and show them how to win a few games.we've managed 1 away win in 2 seasons,thats terrible.cant see myself traveling to support the seniors for the rest of the season.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dougal on March 20, 2011, 04:20:55 PM
tipp and limerick both win so we are now bottom of div3.tipp and louth left to play at home?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up-again on March 20, 2011, 04:26:48 PM
Quote from: Dougal on March 20, 2011, 04:19:20 PM
were heading for division 4 by the looks of things,which i think is better than just about staying in div3,at least in division 4 we should be fit to bring in some young players and show them how to win a few games.we've managed 1 away win in 2 seasons,thats terrible.cant see myself traveling to support the seniors for the rest of the season.

So you only go when things are going well? That's the spirit  ;D

Had a quick look at the league table and I think it currently stands like this. Be warned - Not pretty reading.

Tipp and Louth the play at home.

1   WEXFORD      5   8
2   LOUTH      5   6
3   OFFALY      5   6
4   WESTMEATH   5   5
5   LIMERICK           5   5           
6   WATERFORD   5   4
7   TIPPERARY      5   4
8   CAVAN      5   3
         
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on March 20, 2011, 04:30:44 PM
Definetely BY
This goes way deeper than Management.
There are certain players in this panel,whom may have performed for us in the past but at the moment just cant cut it.
That team that lined out today is not up to it.

James Reilly,
Alan Clarke,(Not a corner back and never will be)
Dermot Sheridan(Not an IC Full back)
Dane O'Dowd(Not county standard)
Mark McKeever,(hasnt played well for the county for years)
John McCutcheon,
Damien O'Reilly(Not county standard)
Ray Cullivan,(Not tall enough for IC midfield But worth his place in the team as a forward)
Podge Reilly(height disadvantage means hes probably better suited to a place at wing or centre back.
Ronan Flangan(hasnt played really well for the county in a long time)
Gareth Smith,
Cian Mackey,(form is far too inconsistent at IC level)
B Fitzpatrick,
M Brennan,
S Johnston.

No size or physique whatsoever,Wexford must have been salivating watching our team of midgets take the field.
Not one man over 6'1 outside Miller.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cogito on March 20, 2011, 04:41:06 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on March 20, 2011, 04:30:44 PM
Definetely BY
This goes way deeper than Management.
There are certain players in this panel,whom may have performed for us in the past but at the moment just cant cut it.
That team that lined out today is not up to it.

James Reilly,
Alan Clarke,(Not a corner back and never will be)
Dermot Sheridan
Dane O'Dowd(Not county standard)
Mark McKeever,(hasnt played well for the county for years)
John McCutcheon,
Damien O'Reilly(Not county standard)
Ray Cullivan,(Not tall enough for IC midfield But worth his place in the team as a forward)
Podge Reilly
Ronan Flangan(hasnt played really well for the county in a long time)
Gareth Smith,
Cian Mackey,(form is far too inconsistent at IC level)
B Fitzpatrick,
M Brennan,
S Johnston.

No size or physique whatsoever,Wexford must have been salivating watching our team of midgets take the field.
Not one man over 6'1 outside Miller.

I was at the game today and my brother, who god love him made the trip down last night hoping for a win, told me two of the Cavan backs would get playing in the u21 defence. I didn't see them play at all this year because I'm based down here most of time and he is abit of a dramatiser but is that true?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on March 20, 2011, 04:54:06 PM
Quote from: cogito on March 20, 2011, 04:41:06 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on March 20, 2011, 04:30:44 PM
Definetely BY
This goes way deeper than Management.
There are certain players in this panel,whom may have performed for us in the past but at the moment just cant cut it.
That team that lined out today is not up to it.

James Reilly,
Alan Clarke,(Not a corner back and never will be)
Dermot Sheridan
Dane O'Dowd(Not county standard)
Mark McKeever,(hasnt played well for the county for years)
John McCutcheon,
Damien O'Reilly(Not county standard)
Ray Cullivan,(Not tall enough for IC midfield But worth his place in the team as a forward)
Podge Reilly
Ronan Flangan(hasnt played really well for the county in a long time)
Gareth Smith,
Cian Mackey,(form is far too inconsistent at IC level)
B Fitzpatrick,
M Brennan,
S Johnston.

No size or physique whatsoever,Wexford must have been salivating watching our team of midgets take the field.
Not one man over 6'1 outside Miller.

I was at the game today and my brother, who god love him made the trip down last night hoping for a win, told me two of the Cavan backs would get playing in the u21 defence. I didn't see them play at all this year because I'm based down here most of time and he is abit of a dramatiser but is that true?


The under 21 backs
M Leddy, O Moynagh, D Tighe; K Meehan, D Barkey, M Brady

Oisin Minagh
Darragh Tighe
Damien Barkey

are much better than some of those Cavan backs whom started today
Id certainly have all 3 starting in front of Dane O Dowd,McKeever and Damien Reily.
Its also a case of not playing them in their correct positions.
Alan Clarke is a wing back or centre back,NOT a corner back.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dougal on March 20, 2011, 05:06:50 PM
Quote from: put-it-up-again on March 20, 2011, 04:26:48 PM
Quote from: Dougal on March 20, 2011, 04:19:20 PM
were heading for division 4 by the looks of things,which i think is better than just about staying in div3,at least in division 4 we should be fit to bring in some young players and show them how to win a few games.we've managed 1 away win in 2 seasons,thats terrible.cant see myself traveling to support the seniors for the rest of the season.

So you only go when things are going well? That's the spirit  ;D

Had a quick look at the league table and I think it currently stands like this. Be warned - Not pretty reading.

Tipp and Louth the play at home.

1   WEXFORD      5   8
2   LOUTH      5   6
3   OFFALY      5   6
4   WESTMEATH   5   5
5   LIMERICK           5   5           
6   WATERFORD   5   4
7   TIPPERARY      5   4
8   CAVAN      5   3

not really,il still go to the home games,just cant see myself going to the likes of cork again this year.things aint been going well in my short time of supporting cavan anyway  ;)



cogito - i wouldnt go as far as to say that,but there are a few backs there today that i would rate as being just about as good as some of the u21s.the full back line from the u21s would be as good as damien reilly and o dowd
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on March 20, 2011, 05:15:54 PM
Johnston is the only one from that full-forward line up to IC level aswell BHman.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Breffni_Yank on March 20, 2011, 05:18:21 PM
Quote from: Dougal on March 20, 2011, 05:06:50 PM
Quote from: put-it-up-again on March 20, 2011, 04:26:48 PM
Quote from: Dougal on March 20, 2011, 04:19:20 PM
were heading for division 4 by the looks of things,which i think is better than just about staying in div3,at least in division 4 we should be fit to bring in some young players and show them how to win a few games.we've managed 1 away win in 2 seasons,thats terrible.cant see myself traveling to support the seniors for the rest of the season.

So you only go when things are going well? That's the spirit  ;D

Had a quick look at the league table and I think it currently stands like this. Be warned - Not pretty reading.

Tipp and Louth the play at home.

1   WEXFORD      5   8
2   LOUTH      5   6
3   OFFALY      5   6
4   WESTMEATH   5   5
5   LIMERICK           5   5           
6   WATERFORD   5   4
7   TIPPERARY      5   4
8   CAVAN      5   3

not really,il still go to the home games,just cant see myself going to the likes of cork again this year.things aint been going well in my short time of supporting cavan anyway  ;)



cogito - i wouldnt go as far as to say that,but there are a few backs there today that i would rate as being just about as good as some of the u21s.the full back line from the u21s would be as good as damien reilly and o dowd

Put-it-up-again, the fact is most people just can't afford to go on the away trips anymore. Look how many of us are on here talking about today's game - none of us were at it, including yourself obviously. For two people to go down to Wexford today for the game it would of cost the guts of 80-100e anyway.

I see people on about the u21's and that does concern me. Realistically, if they lose on Wednesday (and i hope they don't because I really think we need a crop like in Roscommon to make a breakthrough and boost morale etc) but how many would start for the senior team in their next game? I personally don't see them as our saviours in the immediate future because being honest I think about 3 of them would start. So far they beat Fermanagh and made hard work of it at that.

We need to get something together asap though or we will be travelling to London etc next year....
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on March 20, 2011, 05:20:16 PM
Quote from: tommysmith on March 20, 2011, 05:15:54 PM
Johnston is the only one from that full-forward line up to IC level aswell BHman.

In my opinion Mickey Brennan is a much better option out the field,where he can use his mobility and ball carrying ability. I dont believe hes a natural forward as he works better coming onto the ball and not with his back to goal.
It might be a bit premature to write off Bud Fitz,do you not think Tommy???
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up-again on March 20, 2011, 05:21:38 PM
Quote from: tommysmith on March 20, 2011, 05:15:54 PM
Johnston is the only one from that full-forward line up to IC level aswell BHman.

Yeah if your Jack O'Connor picking his  team. Do you honestly think that Nesty and Flanagan wouldn't get playing in any other counties?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on March 20, 2011, 05:23:39 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on March 20, 2011, 05:20:16 PM
Quote from: tommysmith on March 20, 2011, 05:15:54 PM
Johnston is the only one from that full-forward line up to IC level aswell BHman.

In my opinion Mickey Brennan is a much better option out the field,where he can use his mobility and ball carrying ability. I dont believe hes a natural forward.
It might be a bit premature to write off Bud Fitz,do you not think Tommy???

Well Brennan sure would offer more out the field.

Im not sure about him i think he is another who isnt physical enough for this level.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on March 20, 2011, 05:24:55 PM
Quote from: put-it-up-again on March 20, 2011, 05:21:38 PM
Quote from: tommysmith on March 20, 2011, 05:15:54 PM
Johnston is the only one from that full-forward line up to IC level aswell BHman.

Yeah if your Jack O'Connor picking his  team. Do you honestly think that Nesty and Flanagan wouldn't get playing in any other counties?

Flanagan didnt perform at all well last year PIU,in league or championship.
Anytime ive seen him this year aswell, he hasnt been impressive.
Hes a good footballer,but perhaps his versatility has worked against him,as he yo-yos between the forwards and backs and doesnt have a settled position.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on March 20, 2011, 05:25:21 PM
Quote from: put-it-up-again on March 20, 2011, 05:21:38 PM
Quote from: tommysmith on March 20, 2011, 05:15:54 PM
Johnston is the only one from that full-forward line up to IC level aswell BHman.

Yeah if your Jack O'Connor picking his  team. Do you honestly think that Nesty and Flanagan wouldn't get playing in any other counties?

Were they listed in full forward line?

I will answer it for you, they were not.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up-again on March 20, 2011, 05:26:33 PM
Quote from: tommysmith on March 20, 2011, 05:25:21 PM
Quote from: put-it-up-again on March 20, 2011, 05:21:38 PM
Quote from: tommysmith on March 20, 2011, 05:15:54 PM
Johnston is the only one from that full-forward line up to IC level aswell BHman.

Yeah if your Jack O'Connor picking his  team. Do you honestly think that Nesty and Flanagan wouldn't get playing in any other counties?

Were they listed in full forward line?

I will answer it for you, they were not.

My bad Tommy, apologies ;D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on March 20, 2011, 05:27:46 PM
Quote from: tommysmith on March 20, 2011, 05:23:39 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on March 20, 2011, 05:20:16 PM
Quote from: tommysmith on March 20, 2011, 05:15:54 PM
Johnston is the only one from that full-forward line up to IC level aswell BHman.

In my opinion Mickey Brennan is a much better option out the field,where he can use his mobility and ball carrying ability. I dont believe hes a natural forward.
It might be a bit premature to write off Bud Fitz,do you not think Tommy???

Well Brennan sure would offer more out the field.

Im not sure about him i think he is another who isnt physical enough for this level.

You may be right tommy,We have far too many players in all sectors of the field that are not near physical enough for IC Level.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on March 20, 2011, 06:21:23 PM
Quote from: Breffni_Yank on March 20, 2011, 05:18:21 PM
We need to get something together asap though or we will be travelling to London etc next year....

With our luck we would get them at home....
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on March 20, 2011, 06:29:56 PM
Quote from: Celt_Man on March 20, 2011, 06:21:23 PM
Quote from: Breffni_Yank on March 20, 2011, 05:18:21 PM
We need to get something together asap though or we will be travelling to London etc next year....

With our luck we would get them at home....

knowing some of our players and their propensity to drink,maybe the weekends away would be something we could do without.  ;)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Western Blue on March 20, 2011, 06:38:44 PM
At the start of the League I didn't think we get any points out our visit to Nowlan Park,Wexford.We have 2 home games against Tipperary and Louth coming up which we must treat as 2 championship matches. Get 4points we will stay up.
Today we fought back again from 7 points down to loose by 2 . I think we will get 2 big performances to finish of the league.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on March 20, 2011, 06:42:49 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on March 20, 2011, 06:29:56 PM
Quote from: Celt_Man on March 20, 2011, 06:21:23 PM
Quote from: Breffni_Yank on March 20, 2011, 05:18:21 PM
We need to get something together asap though or we will be travelling to London etc next year....

With our luck we would get them at home....

knowing some of our players and their propensity to drink,maybe the weekends away would be something we could do without.  ;)

Never mind them, I could do with a weekend away in London next year.... and in a prefect world, it would be on the same weekend as Ireland v England in the Six Nations!!

Hopefully it doesn't come to that though... Not sure how relegation could be seen as a good thing.  If one's argument is to blood this and last year's Under 21s then surely it would be just as "easy" to blood them in Division 3??
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on March 20, 2011, 06:45:22 PM
Quote from: Western Blue on March 20, 2011, 06:38:44 PM
At the start of the League I didn't think we get any points out our visit to Nowlan Park,Wexford.We have 2 home games against Tipperary and Louth coming up which we must treat as 2 championship matches. Get 4points we will stay up.
Today we fought back again from 7 points down to loose by 2 . I think we will get 2 big performances to finish of the league.

To be fair WB
According to South Eastern FM,
Wexford dominated the game throughout,and only a slack Johnson goal,due to a mishap by a defender brought Cavan back into contention,up to this it was 1-10 to 0-06.
The 2nd goal came on virtually the last kick of the ball.
I dont think any positives can be taken from this game, a 2 point loss flatters us to an unbelieveable degree.
In two away games against Wexford and Offaly, we have been completely manhandled,which is just not good enough.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cogito on March 20, 2011, 06:56:09 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on March 20, 2011, 06:45:22 PM
Quote from: Western Blue on March 20, 2011, 06:38:44 PM
At the start of the League I didn't think we get any points out our visit to Nowlan Park,Wexford.We have 2 home games against Tipperary and Louth coming up which we must treat as 2 championship matches. Get 4points we will stay up.
Today we fought back again from 7 points down to loose by 2 . I think we will get 2 big performances to finish of the league.

To be fair WB
According to South Eastern FM,
Wexford dominated the game throughout,and only a slack Johnson goal,due to a mishap by a defender brought Cavan back into contention,up to this it was 1-10 to 0-06.
The 2nd goal came on virtually the last kick of the ball.
I dont think any positives can be taken from this game, a 2 point loss flatters us to an unbelieveable degree.
In two away games against Wexford and Offaly, we have been completely manhandled,which is just not good enough.

Would agree with that entirely. Cavan should have been bet out the gate and the defence needs to be tightened up alot.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on March 20, 2011, 07:18:24 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on March 20, 2011, 04:54:06 PM

Oisin Minagh
Darragh Tighe
Damien Barkey

are much better than some of those Cavan backs whom started today
Id certainly have all 3 starting in front of Dane O Dowd,McKeever and Damien Reily.
Its also a case of not playing them in their correct positions.
Alan Clarke is a wing back or centre back,NOT a corner back.

Don't be losing the run of yourselves now. While some of the lads named may not be up to IC standard you definitely cannot say the U-21s named are either. Tighe and Barkey are great corner backs but are very small and are not near developed enough yet for Senior IC level. A few skinnings does nobodys confidence any good.
The jury is stil out on Oisin Minagh IMO. Has the physique for Senior level but not sure about other aspects of his game.
Damien Reilly could still make it. Its his first year on the panel and he is still learning. He does the simple things well and is comfortable on the ball. I seen him numerous times last year and at least he stood out playing for his club. The same cannot be said for other panel members.
Mark Mc Keever is struggling for consistency I think but he is still our best option at Wing -Half back when playing well.
Maybe Division 4 is just our level and it could be as well to let our best young players develop there next year.
BH Man I agree with you about Micky Brennan. At times I have seen him play at Full-Forward and he can look untouchable and thats not just playing with Drumalee but its obvious we are struggling around the middle. I think we could do with his athleticism and direct running out there at the minute.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on March 20, 2011, 08:25:59 PM
Nobody shouting about getting rid of management yet if TC was still about he would be lynched by now.  I think people are copping on that we havent the players  :-[
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on March 20, 2011, 08:36:13 PM
Quote from: tommysmith on March 20, 2011, 08:25:59 PM
Nobody shouting about getting rid of management yet if TC was still about he would be lynched by now.  I think people are copping on that we havent the players  :-[


I think one thing that singled TC out as a complete tool was the fact that he was quite willing to shamelessly pimp himself on the media as an "expert" at the very same time as he was making a pig's ear of the Cavan job, something about him spouting forth on RTE radio that day after the Cork game last year really stuck in my craw. Have to agree that we aren't in a great spot mind.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Breffni_Yank on March 20, 2011, 08:42:13 PM
Quote from: tommysmith on March 20, 2011, 08:25:59 PM
Nobody shouting about getting rid of management yet if TC was still about he would be lynched by now.  I think people are copping on that we havent the players  :-[

Even if we got rid of Val would anyone else take the job?  ???

Anyone I have spoken to said that in Val we have a manager that genuinely wants to be here. I don't agree with plenty of what has happened so far but I think he needs at least until the summer of 2012 before he is fairly judged. This group really is at its lowest ever ebb now. One positive I suppose is two home games to try and regain some respect and points.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on March 21, 2011, 09:57:08 AM
I hope we are doing a Roscommon.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: PhilsJemmysField on March 21, 2011, 11:45:22 AM
Getting relegated to Div 4 cannot be a good thing. So therefore you have t play the u21 lads it is simple. Only in Cavan can your senior team start t be a second team. It is very dangerous plan putting U21 first because even if we win Ulster at U21 and our seniors go down would hardly be a success overall. A very big IF as management last year showed they haven't a clue how to play Donegal. Will be interesting to see if our management learnt from last year and do we have a plan for Wednesday night.

With the league starting next week from looking at dugouts at challenge matches over the last few weeks. Lots of teams could struggle to get second teams out. Is emigration starting to bite
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on March 21, 2011, 12:01:14 PM
Quote from: PhilsJemmysField on March 21, 2011, 11:45:22 AM
Getting relegated to Div 4 cannot be a good thing. So therefore you have t play the u21 lads it is simple. Only in Cavan can your senior team start t be a second team. It is very dangerous plan putting U21 first because even if we win Ulster at U21 and our seniors go down would hardly be a success overall. A very big IF as management last year showed they haven't a clue how to play Donegal. Will be interesting to see if our management learnt from last year and do we have a plan for Wednesday night.

With the league starting next week from looking at dugouts at challenge matches over the last few weeks. Lots of teams could struggle to get second teams out. Is emigration starting to bite

If Cavan wins the U21 Ulster final and get relegated in the league that would be a good season for me. Look, at senior level we don't have a raft of talent. We may have a couple of handy players and a load of lads that are willing to do their best. That is what we are at the moment. I think we are just about good enough to hold our place in Div 3 but our confidence is down and even the likes of Johnstone for all his ability is a loser as we have won nothing. A bunch of U21's (or minors) coming through after winning something against the Tyrones, Armaghs of their age group would be a huge boost for us and them lads would know winning was in them.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on March 21, 2011, 01:02:24 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on March 21, 2011, 12:44:57 PM
Where has Pierson gone he hasnt featured in the last few games.. Hope he didnt go AWOL again. He is probaly the most talented player cavan have in the forwards,i would rate him higher than johnston when he is at his best.

Injured,may be back for next game in a fortnight.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on March 21, 2011, 01:07:03 PM
I'd agree with Myles, I would gladly take relegation and an Ulster U-21 Title.. Perhaps I'm being too optimistic but if we were to go down I think we would come straight back up. There is nobody in that Division that we could not beat next year. Didn't Sligo and Antrim drop to Division 4 and used it as a springboard to get some success going?

People are going on about the U-21s as if not playing them is costing us our place in Division 3, realistically who is going to walk straight on to the senior side? Gearoid, Barry Reilly and.. McDermott? Decent additions indeed but they won't transform this team.

What is the story with Givney? He hasn't started a game yet but has made early appearances in most, is he fit or is he not, if he is then I can't imagine this throwing him on early and expecting him to change the tide for us will do him any good.

The one plus about Cavan this year is they are showing a good attitude. They made a decent comebacks against Derry, Westmeath, Limerick and could have stolen it from Wexford.. They haven't just laid down and accepted defeat in any game.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on March 21, 2011, 01:07:14 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on March 21, 2011, 12:44:57 PM
Where has Pierson gone he hasnt featured in the last few games.. Hope he didnt go AWOL again. He is probaly the most talented player cavan have in the forwards,i would rate him higher than johnston when he is at his best.

I heard he was injured. He has/had the potential to be as good if not better than Johnstone but between injury and indicipline he never really lived up to it. Maybe he has settled a bit now and can get in tip top shape for the championship and do the business there.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on March 21, 2011, 03:26:05 PM
Two reports on the game against Wexford which reflect the game much more accurately than what is being reported as being on the Wexford radio station in my opinion. Hopefully these will quell the exaggerated view of the state of the senior team on this thread a little.
NFL 3: Wexford survive Cavan scare

Wexford keeper Anthony Masterson
20 March 2011

Wexford 1-14
Cavan 2-9

Wexford survived a second half scare against struggling Cavan to extend their lead at the top of the Allianz National Football League Division 3 table on Sunday.

Despite playing into the breeze in the first half, the home side led by seven (1-7 to 0-3) at the interval with the goal coming from Paddy Byrne.

But just when a facile victory seemed to be on the cards, Cavan came out all guns blazing in the second half, hitting two goals and forcing Wexford keeper Anthony Masterson into a series of vital stops as the home side just held on.


Michael Lyng came off the bench to fire two goals while Lyng, Eugene Keating and Cian Mackey all saw goalbound efforts rebuffed by Masterson.

Wexford: A Masterson; N Murphy, G Molloy, A Morrissey (0-1); B Malone, D Murphy, A Doyle (0-1); R Quinlivan, D Waters; S O'Neill (0-1), R Barry (0-1), G Sunderland; C Lyng (0-3, 2 frees), P Byrne (1-1), B Brosnan (0-6, 4 frees). Subs: C Morris for Sunderland (46 mins); S Roche for Morrissey (62).

Cavan: J Reilly; A Clarke, D Sheridan, D O'Dowd; M McKeever, J McCutcheon, D Reilly; R Cullivan (0-2), P O'Reilly; R Flanagan (0-3, 2 frees), G Smith (0-2, frees), B Fitzpatrick; C Mackey (0-1), M Brennan, S Johnston (0-1, free). Subs: D Givney for Fitzpatrick (12); T Corr for Sheridan (35); M Lyng (2-0) for Smith (35); E Keating for Brennan (35); K Fannin for Cullivan (66).

Referee: N Ward (Westmeath).


Allianz Football League Division 3, Round 5.
Wexford V Cavan. Wexford Park. 2.30pm.

The old cliché "a game of two half's" is an appropriate description for this Allianz division 3 tie which was played out in Wexford park. As visitors for the second week running Cavan didn't offer much in the way of competition for a Wexford side who out scored them by 1.07 to 0.03 in the opening half. Cavan did start the brighter with two points in the first 2 minutes thanks to the free taking of their forty yards man Gareth smith. However during a 20 minute spell the home side scored 8 times with out reply.

Adrian Morrissey opened Wexford's account on 11 minutes. This was quickly followed by a goal from full forward Paddy Byrne thanks to an excellent pass from top scorer Ben Brosnan who scored 3 points in each half. Cavan replaced Brendan Fitzpatrick with David Givney the first of 5 substitutions in total made by the Breffni men. Andreas Doyle fisted over on the half hour followed by Cavan's only point from play in this half courtesy of midfielder Ray Cullivan, leaving a half time score of 1.07 to 0.03 in favour of Wexford.

Cavan's management rang the changes during the break introducing Tomas Corr, Michael Lyng and Eugene Keating to the full back, centre and full forward positions. Whilst it was Wexford's Ciarán Lyng who got the first score of the second half the new look visitors did emerge as a much more organised and eager outfit. Cian Mackey and Redmond Barry exchanged points before Cavan's work rate started to reap real dividends.

Points from Ray Cullivan and Ronan Flanagan prefaced a goal from Sean Johnston on 13 minutes leaving the score 1.09 to 1.06. Cavan's centre back John McCutcheon raised the white flag only to have his contribution cancelled by referee Niall Ward following consultation with his one of his assistants. That let off spurred on Wexford to score 3 unanswered points courtesy of their full forward line.

Cavan's most influential player, substitute Michael Lyng masterminded a number of excellent scoring opportunities, but goal keeper Anthony Masterson foiled the Breffni men on no less than 3 occasions in one on one encounters. These missed opportunities cost Cavan dearly. Lyng did get the upper hand on Masterson in injury time with a cleverly worked goal but time ran out for Cavan who suffered their second defeat in as many weeks and now face a mammoth task to survive in this division.

Final score Wexford 1.14 Cavan 2.09

Referee Niall Ward, Westmeath.


Wexford A Masterson, N Murphy, G Molloy, A Morrissey (0.01), B Malone, D Murphy, A Doyle (0.01), R Quinlivan, D Waters, S O'Neill (0.01), R Barry (0.01), G Sunderland, C Lyng (0.03) 1 free, P Byrne (1.01), B Brosnan (0.06) 4 frees.

Cavan J Reilly, A Clarke, D Sheridan, D O'Dowd, M McKeever, J McCutcheon,
D O'Reilly, R Cullivan (0.02), P O'Reilly, R Flanagan (0.03) 2 frees,
G Smith (0.02) 2 frees, Brendan Fitzpatrick, C Mackey (0.01), M Brennan,
S Johnston (1.01) 1 free.

Substitutes:

Wexford, S Roche for A Morrissey, C Morris for G Sunderland.



Cavan, D Givney for B Fitzpatrick, T Corr for D Sheridan, M Lyng (1.00) for G Smith, E Keating for M Brennan, K Fannin for R Cullivan.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on March 21, 2011, 08:47:37 PM
Lawrence - Your reports also show how 2 reporters, presumably who both were at the match, can differ given that one of them thought Lyng scored 2 goals and other gave 1 to Johnston. I presume Johnston got that goal as thats what the radio said! Anyway, how did our captain play as a matter of interest? What do you reckon on Keating at FF? Did Lyng make the impact the reports say, if he did make a return to form it would be great as I always thought of him as a truely inspirational player both on the ball and when tackling back. In fact, an injury free Lyng would be my captain if I were manager.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on March 21, 2011, 09:48:15 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on March 21, 2011, 08:47:37 PM
Lawrence - Your reports also show how 2 reporters, presumably who both were at the match, can differ given that one of them thought Lyng scored 2 goals and other gave 1 to Johnston. I presume Johnston got that goal as thats what the radio said! Anyway, how did our captain play as a matter of interest? What do you reckon on Keating at FF? Did Lyng make the impact the reports say, if he did make a return to form it would be great as I always thought of him as a truely inspirational player both on the ball and when tackling back. In fact, an injury free Lyng would be my captain if I were manager.

Interestingly enough, one Eamon Coleman agreed with ya.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on March 21, 2011, 11:21:58 PM
Does Lyng really want to be there though? Saw him play against Antrim last year in the League, he looked unfit and all he wanted to do was get involved off the ball and moan at the ref. He left shortly afterwards.. I would have thought that he would have been one of the players that Tommy Carr branded as "hanging around the panel for the sake of it"
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on March 21, 2011, 11:49:59 PM
Johnston got the goal but Lyng stepped over his weak shot which fooled the keeper so I wouldn't be too bothered with that aspect of the report. My point is that Wexford shouldn't have "beat us out the gate" in my opinion. They were good value for their half time lead but Cavan dominated large spells of the second half and but for their keeper they could have won the game. Johnston is worrying. He is working hard and came out to half-forward in the second half but he is being beaten to the ball by corner backs this year so I'm not sure what's up with him. Keating and Givney were named at 14 and 12 respectively yet neither started. Keating wasn't as prominent as against Limerick but still looks lively and would seem like a decent option there. Lyng was outstanding in my opinion. Nothing spectacular but he has an intelligence which I feel is badly lacking in some of the other players. He has a lot to prove to Cavan people regarding his dedication before we get carried away but I've felt that he's the best player in the county for years now if only he'd stick at it with the county long enough.
For what it's worth I think there are two main problems with the team overall. First, the full-back line, none of which should be playing there. Second, the mindset of the players. I'm not questioning workrate or dedication, but how that's applied. I would look at the management on this second point as their reaction to what I perceive as bad levels of concentration isn't good enough. The full-back line has been debated on here and I don't know what more can be done. But I'd love to know what happened to Eoin McPhilips? He's the best corner back we've had since Hannon first hit the panel in my opinion. He was mysteriously left out come championship last year and I'm not sure what his situation is this year.
There's not that much wrong with the rest of the team that can't be put right with some good motivation.James Reilly,McCutchon,McKeever,Padraig Reilly,Cullivan,Givney,Smith,Lyng,Mackey,Johnston,Pearson are all very capable.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on March 22, 2011, 01:21:50 PM
Heres one point that i do not believe was made.
The schedule of
4 away games and 1 home game in the first 5 is an absolute f**king disgrace.
I dont know what input if any the county board had in that,but its an absolute travesty.
It should be
1 home 1 away 1 home 1 away 1 home 1 away 1 away or vice versa.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on March 22, 2011, 01:28:04 PM
Maybe but then again maybe Cavan wanted a run-in of two games at home.
What was pretty lousy was agreeing to moving the Limerick game to 12:45 from 1:30. Every other game was at 2:30. So three hours to Limerick isn't bad enough but we have to go earlier.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dougal on March 22, 2011, 01:33:22 PM
BHM,was just thinking that last week when i realised we had wexford away as the next game.we could well be as bad off as we are now had the games been split evenly,but the way it was done was a disgrace.

If lyng was bothered he'd be one of my top picks for captain,he can be a great player at times,but last year he didnt seem to bothered,hopefully thats changing this year.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on March 22, 2011, 02:06:44 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on March 22, 2011, 01:21:50 PM
Heres one point that i do not believe was made.
The schedule of
4 away games and 1 home game in the first 5 is an absolute f**king disgrace.
I dont know what input if any the county board had in that,but its an absolute travesty.
It should be
1 home 1 away 1 home 1 away 1 home 1 away 1 away or vice versa.

There is a thread somewhere from way back where the GAA named the league fixtures for 2011 and I made that exact same point. I can't believe any county would be stupid enough to agree to these fixtures so I am presuming it was forced on us. It was probably forced so that Wexford and Limerick could play some double headers with the hurlers. I think it was a big disadvantage to Cavan myself.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on March 22, 2011, 02:09:32 PM
Quote from: Dougal on March 22, 2011, 01:33:22 PM
BHM,was just thinking that last week when i realised we had wexford away as the next game.we could well be as bad off as we are now had the games been split evenly,but the way it was done was a disgrace.

If lyng was bothered he'd be one of my top picks for captain,he can be a great player at times,but last year he didnt seem to bothered,hopefully thats changing this year.

I don't know the lad but I wonder how much of this was down to either frustrations with injury or management or both. A few years ago his attitude on the field was exceptional so I find it difficult to understand how he became a primadonna overnight? Lyng coming back to form could be one big positive from this league.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on March 22, 2011, 06:16:57 PM
Same old same old in this county. Dropping a lad for not committing because rag week is on and then asking them back in!
Sure Val you might as well wipe the whole slate clean and let the boys who couldn't commit before Christmas in now.
And we wonder why our young lads can't make the transition to Senior IC level.
We are where we are beacuse this shit has been allowed to happen for years and its still happening.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on March 22, 2011, 06:20:10 PM
Quote from: boojangles on March 22, 2011, 06:16:57 PM
Same old same old in this county. Dropping a lad for not committing because rag week is on and then asking them back in!
Sure Val you might as well wipe the whole slate clean and let the boys who couldn't commit before Christmas in now.
And we wonder why our young lads can't make the transition to Senior IC level.
We are where we are beacuse this shit has been allowed to happen for years and its still happening.

The full back?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: whats my name on March 23, 2011, 12:18:20 AM
yea was the full back alright i don't believe he should of been dropped it was rag week one week in the year where young lads let there hair down i know in most cases that thats the only week these lads get to have a social life. and lets face it alot of them are back at training before Christmas well in cavans case anyway and are off the beer for at least 9-10 months of the year be it with county or club let the young lads live a little and enjoy themselves for a few days of the year thats what i say
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on March 23, 2011, 08:39:21 AM
Another positive note - Hyland at least knows what part of the problem is:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AOAckNJXatU
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on March 23, 2011, 10:18:47 AM
Quote from: whats my name on March 23, 2011, 12:18:20 AM
yea was the full back alright i don't believe he should of been dropped it was rag week one week in the year where young lads let there hair down i know in most cases that thats the only week these lads get to have a social life. and lets face it alot of them are back at training before Christmas well in cavans case anyway and are off the beer for at least 9-10 months of the year be it with county or club let the young lads live a little and enjoy themselves for a few days of the year thats what i say

I dont agree with that i dont think that would be accepted in many counties.  If a young lad is allowed drink for a few days in a row why not allow the lad who is 26/27 or anyone else on the panel.  Also rag weeks are in different colleges at different times so go on for 2/3 weeks.

When these lads went into county training they knew what was expected of them. 

Although it probaly would have been better to drop him for a game or two and let him train away with the panel than to handle it this way.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on March 23, 2011, 12:16:18 PM
I can't agree with that whatsmyname.. Does anyone think Michael Murphy or Michael Dara McCauley took the week off for a bit of a blowout? Presumably was told he was going to be dropped if he didn't commit that particular week and went ahead and took Rag Week anyway.. What kind of commitment does that show to the cause? I don't mean anything personal against the lad, it's the drinking culture in Cavan I blame, but this was a chance for the management to lay down a marker for what was expected from our County Players from now on and they failed miserably..

The more things change the more they stay the same...
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on March 23, 2011, 12:27:11 PM
Quote from: boojangles on March 22, 2011, 06:16:57 PM
Same old same old in this county. Dropping a lad for not committing because rag week is on and then asking them back in!
Sure Val you might as well wipe the whole slate clean and let the boys who couldn't commit before Christmas in now.
And we wonder why our young lads can't make the transition to Senior IC level.
We are where we are beacuse this shit has been allowed to happen for years and its still happening.

Paddy Carroll of Ballinagh was brought back in then???

Nothing against the guy in particular, but Westside and Boojanges are on the ball here. You're either committed to the set-up 100%,and that means staying off the drink and maximising the effectiveness of the hard training that is being done during the week.
Carroll didnt want to go off to the booze because of rag week,obviously he isnt 100% committed and should not have been brought back in.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: whats my name on March 23, 2011, 12:34:14 PM
getting off this point anyway what you reckon of our chances against donegal in the 21's will be interesting to see will hyland have learned from his mistakes last year this game will give a good indication of how good a manager he really is and has he learned from his mistakes last time out i wonder how will he set the team up to counteract the 13 men behind the ball tactic
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on March 23, 2011, 12:48:21 PM
Cavan are favourites tonight, 4/5 with Donegal 5/4. Very strange to have us as favourites against the defending Champions.. Does Paddy Power know something we don't!? Hopefully there'll be a good Cavan crowd in Brewster tonight and we can get revenge for last year.

Could the tacticians among us guess as to the best method Cavan could use to combat Donegal's swarming style of play?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on March 23, 2011, 04:30:14 PM
Quote from: Westside on March 23, 2011, 12:48:21 PM
Cavan are favourites tonight, 4/5 with Donegal 5/4. Very strange to have us as favourites against the defending Champions.. Does Paddy Power know something we don't!? Hopefully there'll be a good Cavan crowd in Brewster tonight and we can get revenge for last year.

Could the tacticians among us guess as to the best method Cavan could use to combat Donegal's swarming style of play?

Fast direct ball into the full forward line no point in pussy footing around out the middle of the field and letting them filter back.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on March 23, 2011, 06:51:12 PM
Quote from: Westside on March 23, 2011, 12:48:21 PM
Cavan are favourites tonight, 4/5 with Donegal 5/4. Very strange to have us as favourites against the defending Champions.. Does Paddy Power know something we don't!? Hopefully there'll be a good Cavan crowd in Brewster tonight and we can get revenge for last year.

Could the tacticians among us guess as to the best method Cavan could use to combat Donegal's swarming style of play?

Paddy power knows donegal struggled to beat anytime while we easily beat fermanagh. That's about it.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: club_man on March 23, 2011, 09:32:07 PM
2 Ulster U-21 finals in a row, looking good on this front at least..Be great to get an Ulster Championship at this level
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on March 23, 2011, 10:46:08 PM
Well done to the U21's, super victory.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on March 23, 2011, 10:54:59 PM
Well done to all involved. Great battling performance.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on March 24, 2011, 09:45:38 AM
What was the score?  On Aertel it seemed like we won well.  Any eye witness reports?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on March 24, 2011, 09:55:20 AM
From the indo

Reilly on song in Cavan victory
Cavan 0-12
Donegal 1-4
Cavan football received a timely pick-me-up at Brewster Park, Enniskillen, when their U-21s booked a place in the provincial decider for the second successive year.

Cavan weren't at all flattered by their 0-6 to 1-1 interval lead against the side that beat them in the 2010 final, Donegal's goal coming from Dermot Molloy.

Jack Brady fired over for Cavan immediately after the restart and man-of-the-match Barry Reilly added a brace of points to leave Cavan 0-9 to 1-1 in front.

Donegal ended a 22-minute barren period when Molloy's free cut the lead to four points.

They threw everything forward in the dying minutes, but a fine save by Alan O'Mara from Seamus Corcoran helped secure Cavan's place in the final.

SCORERS -- Cavan: B Reilly 0-5 (4f), J Brady, N McDermott 0-2 each, G McKiernan, N Smith, P Leddy 0-1 each. Donegal: M McHugh 0-2 (2f), D Molloy 1-1 (1f), R McErlean 0-1.

CAVAN -- A O'Mara: M Leddy, O Minagh, D Tighe; K Meehan, D Barkey, M Brady; G McKiernan, F Flanagan; N Smith, C McClarey, B Reilly; J Brady, N McDermott, P Leddy. Subs: S Tierney for McClarey (42), N McKiernan for Leddy (45), N Murray for Flanagan (53), S Nolan for Brady (59), S Gray for Tighe (61).

DONEGAL -- P Boyle; D Curran, E Doherty, T McKinley; S Kennedy, L Keeney, C McGinley; C Classon, A McFadden; M McHugh, D Molloy, D McLoughlin; K McFadden, R McErlean, P McBrearty. Subs: K Ward for Curran (h-t), P McNeilis for McGinley (h-t), O McNiallais for Keeney (35), S Corcoran for McFadden (35), A Kelly for Kennedy (53).

Ref -- M McErlene (Derry)

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on March 24, 2011, 03:44:26 PM
Donegal played their now regular tactic of 12 men behind the ball which for the first 10-15 mins we found it hard to break down. When we started to run at them and get the final ball right we were by far the better team. A poxy enough goal kept them in it in the 1st half.
It was a great all-round team performance with everybody tackling hard and supporting the man on the ball.
Kevin Meehan had a free role (as his man was continually dropping back) but he played it brilliantly. Very rarely gave the ball away and continually helped start attacks by taking on men when needed.
Big Gearoid in the middle was outstanding and his breaking of ball was very intelligent. Was a real leader last night as you would expect.
Up front Donegal couldn't handle Niall Mc Dermott or Barry Reilly and they continually posed a threat.
Thats not taking away from the rest of the lads who put in an hours hard work. They all showed balls and pride in the jersey and thats all that we can ask for.
If there was a negative from the night it would have to be that Donegal were very poor and probably threw in the towel with 5 mins to go. Whoever we meet in the final will pose a much greater threat, thats for sure.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dougal on March 25, 2011, 01:23:18 PM
Great perfomance from the u21s on wed evening.very impressed with most of the same players as booj,but one that really impressed me was packie leddy.ive seen him a good few times before and never really stood out,but i thought he was brilliant on wednesday.it would be a great boost if we could go on and win ulster now.

League starting this weekend,are we all confident our clubs will do well this year?i think we should stay up this year,hopefully mid table or better,but we need to get off to a good start like previous years.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on March 25, 2011, 08:54:33 PM
Yeah it would be a great boost if the u21 go and win Ulster Final now. They were unlucky last year in the final so hopefully they can go one better this time. I'm surprised kevin tierney is not involved he didnt even make the match squad for the last 2 games,sitting in the stand. He played very well last year with ballyhaise,maybe the competions for places is tough if he cant make the bench either.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dougal on March 25, 2011, 09:07:13 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on March 25, 2011, 08:54:33 PM
Yeah it would be a great boost if the u21 go and win Ulster Final now. They were unlucky last year in the final so hopefully they can go one better this time. I'm surprised kevin tierney is not involved he didnt even make the match squad for the last 2 games,sitting in the stand. He played very well last year with ballyhaise,maybe the competions for places is tough if he cant make the bench either.


i keep forgetting to ask where tierney is,havent seen him playing for 2 years now but he was very good back then.

i see the ulster final is fixed for the 13th,3 days before the AI semis,was there not uproar about this 2 or three years ago.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on March 25, 2011, 09:45:57 PM
I believe that Kevin Tierney is only coming back from injury. He would be a massive addition to that forward line if he is fully fit. Hopefully we might see him for the Ulster Final. I'm sure BH Man could fill us in for sure.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on March 25, 2011, 10:34:40 PM
If the ai semi is only 3 days after the ulster final then that is a disgrace. So much for looking after burnout in young players.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on March 26, 2011, 11:22:10 AM
The only downside to only 3 days between Ulster final and AI semi is that there will be limited recovery time if anyone picks up an injury in the final.

I would say that it is best to finish off as quick as possible so there is no conflict with College exams.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on March 26, 2011, 01:22:08 PM
Quote from: Denn Forever on March 26, 2011, 11:22:10 AM
The only downside to only 3 days between Ulster final and AI semi is that there will be limited recovery time if anyone picks up an injury in the final.

I would say that it is best to finish off as quick as possible so there is no conflict with College exams.

See Myles previous post.

If Down or Tyrone get through it is worse for them though as they would be going at it for 5 weeks.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on March 26, 2011, 01:52:28 PM
The year Down beat us in the minor semi replay a couple of years ago in Crossmaglen they were made play the ulster fnal a few days later and were beaten by a team not nearly as good as them. Down had a back door that year and went on to hammer all around them on the way to winning it out. The point is they obviously suffered mentally and physically in the semi which meant they couldn't be right for the final. There is no back door in the U21's!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on March 26, 2011, 03:43:04 PM
Of course this scheduling problem has arisen because of the fact that Down and Tyrone have drawn twice and are being given a week between each match with the winners next week , assuming there is one, with a week to prepare for Monaghan. I'd agree with Myles, Ulster winners will be at a physical and mental disadvantage three days later and could be sitting ducks.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on March 26, 2011, 06:53:11 PM
What way is the draw set up? Do Ulster meet Connacht Munster or Leinster?

Hopefully we win the final and get justification for being outraged...
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dougal on March 26, 2011, 07:20:18 PM
not sure but going by last years semis and what i think was the previous 2 years finals,it should be leinster,but im open to correction.wexford and longford contesting the leinster final neither of them have won it before.

was up at the mullahoran belturbet match there this evening,enda reilly looking very good,scored 6 or 7 points.looked average in minor last year but im impressed with him for the seniors.is eoin mcguigan on the county panel?was fairly good this evening whereas damien reilly wasnt up to much.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: hassletravel on March 26, 2011, 08:10:47 PM
100% ulster winners play Leinster
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on March 27, 2011, 05:57:59 PM
ACFL Division 1

Cavan Gaels  3-11 0-12 Lacken  Cavan Gaels   
Ballyhaise  0-13 0-9 Ramor United  Ballyhaise   
Drumlane  1-4 0-10 Killygarry  Drumlane   
Ballinagh  2-21 3-4 Redhills  Ballinagh   
Gowna  2-8 2-8 Killeshandra  Gowna   
Castlerahan  2-15 0-10 Lavey  Castlerahan   
Cuchullains  1-6 3-9 Kingscourt  Cuchullains   

ACFL Division 2

Bailieboro  2-11 3-9 Swanlinbar  Bailieboro   
Butlersbridge  0-8 1-5 Shercock  Butlersbridge   
Cootehill  2-14 0-8 Knockbride  Cootehill   
Cornafean  0-8 0-10 Killinkere  Cornafean   
Denn  1-7 1-8 Drung  St Matthews-Crosskeys   
Drumalee  1-9 3-6 Drumgoon  Drumalee   
Crosserlough  2-10 0-11 Kill  Crosserlough   

ACFL Division 3

Corlough  2-5 1-12 Munterconnacht  Corlough   
Laragh Utd  2-18 0-4 Maghera  Laragh Utd   
Kildallan  0-5 4-12 Mountnugent  Kildallen   

ACFL Reserve Division 1

Cuchullains  0-3 2-13 Kingscourt  Cuchullains   
Ballyhaise  1-13 1-6 Ramor United  Ballyhaise   
Drumlane  0-6 2-17 Killygarry  Drumlane   

ACFL Reserve Division 2

Crosserlough  4-16 0-1 Kill  Crosserlough   
Bailieboro  3-13 2-9 Swanlinbar  Bailieboro   
Butlersbridge  0-12 2-6 Shercock  Butlersbridge   
Cootehill  - - Knockbride  Cootehill Conceded by Knockbride 
Cornafean  1-7 0-14 Killinkere  Cornafean   
Denn  3-10 2-9 Drung  St Matthews-Crosskeys   
Drumalee  1-5 0-7 Drumgoon  Drumalee
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on March 27, 2011, 06:23:10 PM
Quote from: Celt_Man on March 27, 2011, 05:57:59 PM
ACFL Division 1

Cavan Gaels  3-11 0-12 Lacken  Cavan Gaels   
Ballyhaise  0-13 0-9 Ramor United  Ballyhaise   
Drumlane  1-4 0-10 Killygarry  Drumlane   
Ballinagh  2-21 3-4 Redhills  Ballinagh   
Gowna  2-8 2-8 Killeshandra  Gowna   
Castlerahan  2-15 0-10 Lavey  Castlerahan   
Cuchullains  1-6 3-9 Kingscourt  Cuchullains   

ACFL Division 2

Bailieboro  2-11 3-9 Swanlinbar  Bailieboro   
Butlersbridge  0-8 1-5 Shercock  Butlersbridge   
Cootehill  2-14 0-8 Knockbride  Cootehill   
Cornafean  0-8 0-10 Killinkere  Cornafean   
Denn  1-7 1-8 Drung  St Matthews-Crosskeys   
Drumalee  1-9 3-6 Drumgoon  Drumalee   
Crosserlough  2-10 0-11 Kill  Crosserlough   

ACFL Division 3

Corlough  2-5 1-12 Munterconnacht  Corlough   
Laragh Utd  2-18 0-4 Maghera  Laragh Utd   
Kildallan  0-5 4-12 Mountnugent  Kildallen   

ACFL Reserve Division 1

Cuchullains  0-3 2-13 Kingscourt  Cuchullains   
Ballyhaise  1-13 1-6 Ramor United  Ballyhaise   
Drumlane  0-6 2-17 Killygarry  Drumlane   

ACFL Reserve Division 2

Crosserlough  4-16 0-1 Kill  Crosserlough   
Bailieboro  3-13 2-9 Swanlinbar  Bailieboro   
Butlersbridge  0-12 2-6 Shercock  Butlersbridge   
Cootehill  - - Knockbride  Cootehill Conceded by Knockbride 
Cornafean  1-7 0-14 Killinkere  Cornafean   
Denn  3-10 2-9 Drung  St Matthews-Crosskeys   
Drumalee  1-5 0-7 Drumgoon  Drumalee

Drumalee 1-12 Drumgoon 3-6. Draw game for the 3rd year running.
Some win for yourselves CeltMan. Drung caused a bit of a shock also.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on March 28, 2011, 04:43:39 PM
Quote from: boojangles on March 27, 2011, 06:23:10 PM
Drumalee 1-12 Drumgoon 3-6. Draw game for the 3rd year running.
Some win for yourselves CeltMan. Drung caused a bit of a shock also.

Ahh in fairness Knockbride were missing an awful lot - heard something like 9 of the team which beat Drumlane in Division 2 final last October.  Aye they did surely - great win for them
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on March 28, 2011, 11:57:47 PM
Quote from: Celt_Man on March 28, 2011, 04:43:39 PM
Quote from: boojangles on March 27, 2011, 06:23:10 PM
Drumalee 1-12 Drumgoon 3-6. Draw game for the 3rd year running.
Some win for yourselves CeltMan. Drung caused a bit of a shock also.

Ahh in fairness Knockbride were missing an awful lot - heard something like 9 of the team which beat Drumlane in Division 2 final last October.  Aye they did surely - great win for them

It might not get a whole pile better for them either though. I believe they have been hit hard with retirements. A load of Reillys and Raphael Rodgers are gone I hear. They made one last push last year for the Intermediate Championship. Alot of them lads have given serious service so I suppose who could blame them. I just hope we haven't seen the last of Larry!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: CavanCola on March 29, 2011, 09:30:59 AM
Another big loss for Cavan Gaelic football to Australia... if the munchies can get this man back surely they can win the Cavan Junior title this year? Interesting that he puts little focus on training... just pure natural talent.

http://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=10150112528017797
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: whats my name on March 29, 2011, 12:51:03 PM
vintage padraig mc enroe he was hardly drunk doing this wouldnt be like him
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on March 29, 2011, 12:58:14 PM
Quote from: CavanCola on March 29, 2011, 09:30:59 AM
Another big loss for Cavan Gaelic football to Australia... if the munchies can get this man back surely they can win the Cavan Junior title this year? Interesting that he puts little focus on training... just pure natural talent.

http://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=10150112528017797

Ha ha ha Mc Enroe,even before I watched it I knew it had to be Padraig, what a man! Massive loss to Cavan football but obviously Australias gain!!!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: PhilsJemmysField on March 29, 2011, 03:09:04 PM
Bit of a rumour that all games off at weekend. Anybody hear anything ?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on March 29, 2011, 04:04:09 PM
Quote from: PhilsJemmysField on March 29, 2011, 03:09:04 PM
Bit of a rumour that all games off at weekend. Anybody hear anything ?

Didnt hear anything but i dont think games between teams who have no U-21 players should be called off.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on March 29, 2011, 10:20:09 PM
Quote from: PhilsJemmysField on March 29, 2011, 03:09:04 PM
Bit of a rumour that all games off at weekend. Anybody hear anything ?

FFS don't tell me they are starting this carry on again
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up-again on March 30, 2011, 12:14:16 AM
Why in the name of god would they cancel club games? I mean if a club was missing 3 or 4 lads through county players then that is fair enough but if a club is only missing one player the game should go ahead. 29 other lads from his club have been training away for the last two months waiting for the league start and the games shouldn't be put off this early in the season.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on March 30, 2011, 12:22:46 AM
Quote from: put-it-up-again on March 30, 2011, 12:14:16 AM
Why in the name of god would they cancel club games? I mean if a club was missing 3 or 4 lads through county players then that is fair enough but if a club is only missing one player the game should go ahead. 29 other lads from his club have been training away for the last two months waiting for the league start and the games shouldn't be put off this early in the season.

Spot on
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dougal on March 30, 2011, 11:00:04 AM
Fixtures are out this morning so it looks like this weekends games are going ahead.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on March 30, 2011, 12:36:17 PM
Quote from: Dougal on March 30, 2011, 11:00:04 AM
Fixtures are out this morning so it looks like this weekends games are going ahead.
Yep seems to be so... Didn't know that County players aren't able to play this weekend either >:(
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on March 30, 2011, 12:57:19 PM
Quote from: Celt_Man on March 30, 2011, 12:36:17 PM
Quote from: Dougal on March 30, 2011, 11:00:04 AM
Fixtures are out this morning so it looks like this weekends games are going ahead.
Yep seems to be so... Didn't know that County players aren't able to play this weekend either >:(

County seniors can't play on sunday?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on March 30, 2011, 01:12:48 PM
Quote from: tommysmith on March 30, 2011, 12:57:19 PM
Quote from: Celt_Man on March 30, 2011, 12:36:17 PM
Quote from: Dougal on March 30, 2011, 11:00:04 AM
Fixtures are out this morning so it looks like this weekends games are going ahead.
Yep seems to be so... Didn't know that County players aren't able to play this weekend either >:(

County seniors can't play on sunday?

So goes the dirty rumour...
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4sam on March 30, 2011, 02:05:56 PM
Could some of you lads put up the list of fixtures for this weekend please.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on March 30, 2011, 02:11:39 PM
Ask and you shall receive


*Note: As Round Two is a round without county players the 26 players listed to play against Louth this Saturday evening will not be allowed to play with their clubs on Sunday.

Saturday, 02nd April 2011 @ 4pm
A.C.F.L. Reserve Division 3 Round 2
Munterconnacht v Ballyhaise
Referee: Phil Devine
Templeport v Bailieborough
Referee: John Cassidy



Sunday, 03rd April 2011 @ 2pm
A.C.F.L. Reserve Division 1 Round 2
Killygarry v Gowna
Referee: Raymond Tynan
Kingscourt v Drumlane (Game at 3.30pm)
Referee: Kieran McCarville
Lacken v Cuchulainns
Referee: Jimmy Galligan - Killygarry
Mullahoran v Castlerahan
Referee: Raymond Kelly
Ramor Utd v Belturbet
Referee: Oliver O'Reilly
Ballinagh v Ballyhaise (Game at 4.30pm)
Referee: Martin Sexton

Sunday, 03rd April 2011 @ 2pm
A.C.F.L. Reserve Division 2 Round 2
Swanlinbar v Drumgoon
Referee: Robbie McDermott
Drung v Drumalee
Referee: Donal Reilly
Kill v Denn
Referee: Martin Brady - Ballinagh
Killinkere v Crosserlough
Referee: Tony Mc Donald
Knockbride v Cornafean
Referee: MG Brady
Shannon Gaels v Cootehill
Referee: John Emmo
Bailieborough v Butlersbridge
Referee: Martin Brady - Lacken

Sunday, 03rd April 2011 @ 2pm
A.C.F.L. Reserve Division 3 Round 2
Redhills v Killeshandra (Game at 3.30pm)
Referee: Ollie Donohoe
Arva v Ballymachugh
Referee: Thomas Doonan
Mountnugent v Laragh Utd
Referee: Jim Hyland

Sunday, 03rd April 2011 @ 3.30pm
A.C.F.L. Division 1 Round 2
Redhills v Killeshandra (Game at 2pm)
Referee: Ollie Donohoe
Killygarry v Gowna
Referee: Raymond Tynan
Kingscourt v Drumlane (Game at 2pm)
Referee: Kieran McCarville
Lacken v Cuchulainns
Referee: Jimmy Galligan - Killygarry
Lavey v Cavan Gaels (Game at 4pm)
Referee: Brian Seagrave
Mullahoran v Castlerahan
Referee: Raymond Kelly
Ramor Utd v Belturbet
Referee: Oliver O'Reilly
Ballinagh v Ballyhaise (Game at 6pm)
Referee: Martin Sexton

Sunday, 03rd April 2011 @ 3.30pm
A.C.F.L. Division 2 Round 2
Swanlinbar v Drumgoon
Referee: Robbie McDermott
Drung v Drumalee
Referee: Donal Reilly
Kill v Denn
Referee: Martin Brady - Ballinagh
Knockbride v Cornafean
Referee: MG Brady
Shannon Gaels v Cootehill
Referee: John Emmo
Shercock v Cavan Gaels (Game at 12.30pm)
Referee: Seamus O'Connor
Bailieborough v Butlersbridge
Referee: Martin Brady - Lacken

Sunday, 03rd April 2011 @ 3.30pm
A.C.F.L. Division 3 Round 2
Mountnugent v Laragh Utd
Referee: Jim Hyland
Munterconnacht v Ballyconnell First Ulsters
Referee: Declan McCabe
Templeport v Corlough
Referee: Packie Smith
Arva v Ballymachugh
Referee: Thomas Doonan

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: PhilsJemmysField on March 30, 2011, 02:15:37 PM
Just got fixtures this is the "official line" from county board

As round 2 is a round without county players the 26 players listed to play against Louth on Saturday evening will not be allowed to play with their clubs on Sunday.
May be a few U 21 lads about to get drafted in now which will start a bit of fun
Here are this week's
Saturday, 02nd April 2011 @ 4pm
A.C.F.L.   Reserve Division 3 Round 2
Munterconnacht v Ballyhaise
Referee:  Phil Devine
Templeport v Bailieborough
Referee:  John Cassidy

Sunday, 03rd April 2011 @ 2pm
A.C.F.L. Reserve Division 1 Round 2
Killygarry v Gowna
Referee:  Raymond Tynan
Kingscourt v Drumlane (Game at 3.30pm)
Referee:  Kieran McCarville
Lacken v Cuchulainns
Referee:  Jimmy Galligan - Killygarry
Mullahoran v Castlerahan
Referee:  Raymond Kelly
Ramor Utd v Belturbet
Referee:  Oliver O'Reilly
Ballinagh v Ballyhaise (Game at 4.30pm)
Referee:  Martin Sexton

Sunday, 03rd April 2011 @ 2pm
A.C.F.L.  Reserve Division 2 Round 2
Swanlinbar v Drumgoon
Referee:  Robbie McDermott
Drung v Drumalee
Referee:  Donal Reilly
Kill v Denn
Referee:  Martin Brady - Ballinagh
Killinkere v Crosserlough
Referee:  Tony Mc Donald
Knockbride v Cornafean
Referee:  MG Brady
Shannon Gaels v Cootehill
Referee:  John Emmo
Bailieborough v Butlersbridge
Referee:  Martin Brady - Lacken

Sunday, 03rd April 2011 @ 2pm
A.C.F.L.   Reserve Division 3 Round 2
Redhills v Killeshandra (Game at 3.30pm)
Referee:  Ollie Donohoe
Arva v Ballymachugh
Referee:  Thomas Doonan
Mountnugent v Laragh Utd
Referee:  Jim Hyland

Sunday, 03rd April 2011 @ 3.30pm
A.C.F.L. Division 1 Round 2
Redhills v Killeshandra (Game at 2pm)
Referee:  Ollie Donohoe
Killygarry v Gowna
Referee:  Raymond Tynan
Kingscourt v Drumlane (Game at 2pm)
Referee:  Kieran McCarville
Lacken v Cuchulainns
Referee:  Jimmy Galligan - Killygarry
Lavey v Cavan Gaels (Game at 4pm)
Referee:  Brian Seagrave
Mullahoran v Castlerahan
Referee:  Raymond Kelly
Ramor Utd v Belturbet
Referee:  Oliver O'Reilly
Ballinagh v Ballyhaise (Game at 6pm)
Referee:  Martin Sexton

Sunday, 03rd April 2011 @ 3.30pm
A.C.F.L.  Division 2 Round 2
Swanlinbar v Drumgoon
Referee:  Robbie McDermott
Drung v Drumalee
Referee:  Donal Reilly
Kill v Denn
Referee:  Martin Brady - Ballinagh
Knockbride v Cornafean
Referee:  MG Brady
Shannon Gaels v Cootehill
Referee:  John Emmo
Shercock v Cavan Gaels (Game at 12.30pm)
Referee:  Seamus O'Connor
Bailieborough v Butlersbridge
Referee:  Martin Brady - Lacken

Sunday, 03rd April 2011 @ 3.30pm
A.C.F.L.  Division 3 Round 2
Mountnugent v Laragh Utd
Referee:  Jim Hyland
Munterconnacht v Ballyconnell First Ulsters
Referee:  Declan McCabe
Templeport v Corlough
Referee:  Packie Smith
Arva v Ballymachugh
Referee:  Thomas Doonan

Saturday, 09th April 2011 @ 5pm
A.C.F.L.   Reserve Division 3 Round 2
Killinkere v Killygarry
Referee:  Philip Devine


Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on March 30, 2011, 02:21:02 PM
To be honest if Cavan get beaten and are relegated I can't see boys not playing club fixtures to "save" themselves for a meanless final round game
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on March 30, 2011, 04:27:11 PM
As round 2 is a round without county players the 26 players listed to play against Louth on Saturday evening will not be allowed to play with their clubs on Sunday.

Does this happen in any other county?  Its not as if it is an away game.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on March 30, 2011, 06:25:13 PM
Let them play FFS. A few of them could do with a lock of club games to try and get their confidence up.
Eoin Mc Guigan left the panel last week. Was injured earlier in the year but barely got a run since. ???
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on March 30, 2011, 06:34:30 PM
Quote from: boojangles on March 30, 2011, 06:25:13 PM
Let them play FFS. A few of them could do with a lock of club games to try and get their confidence up.
Eoin Mc Guigan left the panel last week. Was injured earlier in the year but barely got a run since. ???

Won't be the last to leave - I reckon if they go down (please jaysus they don't) there could be more.... although that's just idle speculation on my part but hey that's what the internet is for!!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Breffni_Yank on March 30, 2011, 06:39:27 PM
Quote from: boojangles on March 30, 2011, 06:25:13 PM
Let them play FFS. A few of them could do with a lock of club games to try and get their confidence up.
Eoin Mc Guigan left the panel last week. Was injured earlier in the year but barely got a run since. ???

That's interesting because I heard Anton Reilly and Patrick Carroll left too although I don't know how through that is - was just pub talk more than anything else. Are we gonna end up like Fermanagh?

This current team really are failing to give us any glimmer of hope at all. They all either row in now and save their season or they sink. Saturday night is make or break for them. Will any u21's be playing or are they being left to focus on their own competition?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dougal on March 30, 2011, 07:25:30 PM
does anyone have any idea what the 26 man panel is?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on March 31, 2011, 04:07:53 PM
Do Hyland and Andrews even know the 26 man panel ha.. there seems to be players leaving the panel after every league match. Carrol should not have been brought back in, he is a good player, but if he didn't want to train and rather go on the beer at a rag week shows he wasnt giving his all to be on the county panel. Mcguigan should have got a chance but he has now left. He had a decent year with cavan last year
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Ollie on March 31, 2011, 04:09:04 PM
But sure out of the 26 players on the panel they can only play 20 in a single match.. So at least 6 lads won't see any game time. Surely they can line out for their clubs the following day..
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: whats my name on April 01, 2011, 12:57:24 PM
Let them play is right we missed out on promotion last year because we were missing a player with county commitments for at least 4 games now this same shite is going on this year so even if they lose the game on Saturday and are relegated are they still not allowed play on sunday???
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanforever on April 01, 2011, 01:53:23 PM
would you see this carry on in cork or kerry?? no is the answer. after most games they are sent back to their clubs.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: PhilsJemmysField on April 01, 2011, 02:57:01 PM
This is only a bit of Idle speculation -- I think that there may be a bit of trying to protect some of the u21 lads here. So by drafting in a few of them onto the panel means they cannot play for their clubs. Think it is bullshit believe fixtures meeting was a good row on Monday night so dragged on to Tuesday
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cogito on April 01, 2011, 10:35:34 PM
Cavan team for the weekend is

JReilly.OMinagh.TCorr.DO'Dowd.MMcKeever.PReilly.DReilly.JMcCutcheon.DGivney.GMcKiernan.RCullivan.RFlanagan.NMcDermot.CMackey.EKeating
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on April 02, 2011, 10:36:56 AM
So Under 21s are not allowed play with their clubs BUT 3 of them can play with the Senior team tonight.  ::)
Who's calling the shots here? Is it the Management or the Chairman?
Anyhow best of Luck to the Seniors tonight. Hopefully Breifni Park will spring some sort of a revival.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: drici on April 02, 2011, 09:17:28 PM
(http://www.mediafire.com/imgbnc.php/0bd79ed0e9b92b3627e6a045d5cb9fddf4b85caaacc078a22c35fffca971e2b26g.jpg)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on April 02, 2011, 09:48:57 PM
Not pretty but a wins a win. 0-12 to 1-06 I tink. Big Gearoid had a fine game and kicked 3 great scores but came off injured. Seemed to be holding his shoulder or ribs. Please God he is ok.
Tomas Corr was MOTM at Full-Back. Outstanding and fair play to the man. Good performances also from Mc Keever and Damien Reilly.
Louth were atrocious. Kicked 6 balls into Millers hands in the 2nd half.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on April 03, 2011, 01:38:03 PM
Quote from: boojangles on April 02, 2011, 09:48:57 PM
Not pretty but a wins a win. 0-12 to 1-06 I tink. Big Gearoid had a fine game and kicked 3 great scores but came off injured. Seemed to be holding his shoulder or ribs. Please God he is ok.
Tomas Corr was MOTM at Full-Back. Outstanding and fair play to the man. Good performances also from Mc Keever and Damien Reilly.
Louth were atrocious. Kicked 6 balls into Millers hands in the 2nd half.

Agreed.
Podge was a very good outlet last night at Centre Back aswell,he was always available for support.
McKeevers point in the first half from over 45 metres was a thing of beauty.
Ray picked up a lot of loose ball,and hit some good passes inside,but he wasnt accurate with his shooting.
Niall Murray put in a very solid 70 minutes aswell.
I was disappointed in Eugene Keating,Ronan Flanagan and Cian Mackey,as none of the 3 impacted the game like we know they can.
Stephen Jordan had one of those nights,when he came on,but that often happens and can be forgiven.
Cavans tactic of lobbing in high diagonal ball to Eugene Keating and Mackey in the first half,didnt work once from what i can remember.
Cullivan would have been a better option for the high ball in.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Breffni_Yank on April 03, 2011, 02:31:05 PM
At least we get a win because at this stage it wasn't about the performance. Hopefully results go our way today but I see that all the teams below us are at home so i doubt all will lose...

What is the story on next weekend. Can the u21's play? I thought they made a bit of difference last night - especially McKiernan. Three points from middle of the field is serious going.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on April 03, 2011, 05:04:23 PM
After today results it seems survival is in our own hands, a win against tipp and that will do.
Where was lyng yesterday.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on April 03, 2011, 05:57:57 PM
ACFL Division 1

Killygarry  3-8 3-10 Gowna  Athletic Grounds-Crubany   
Lacken  1-10 1-8 Cuchullains  Lacken   
Redhills  1-12 2-8 Killeshandra  Redhills   
Kingscourt  1-16 1-5 Drumlane  Kingscourt   
Mullahoran  2-8 1-8 Castlerahan  Mullahoran   
Ramor United  2-8 2-6 Belturbet  Ramor United   

ACFL Division 2

Swanlinbar  1-4 0-9 Drumgoon  Swanlinbar   
Drung  1-9 1-8 Drumalee  Drung   
Kill  1-15 2-11 Denn  Kill   
Knockbride  1-8 1-5 Cornafean  Knockbride   
Bailieboro  0-8 0-7 Butlersbridge  Bailieboro   
Shercock  2-8 1-6 Cavan Gaels  Shercock   
Shannon Gaels  2-4 0-12 Cootehill  Shannon Gaels

ACFL Division 3

Mountnugent  2-10 1-9 Laragh Utd  Mountnugent   
Munterconnacht  2-17 2-10 Kildallan  Muntirconnacht   
Templeport  1-11 1-6 Corlough  St Aidans Park-Bawnboy   

ACFL Reserve Division 1

Kingscourt  2-13 1-9 Drumlane  Kingscourt   
Ramor United  0-11 0-11 Belturbet  Ramor United   
Killygarry  2-8 2-8 Gowna  Athletic Grounds-Crubany   
Lacken  1-12 1-4 Cuchullains  Lacken   

ACFL Reserve Division 2

Swanlinbar  0-10 1-11 Drumgoon  Swanlinbar   
Drung  1-9 0-13 Drumalee  Drung   
Kill  0-4 2-11 Denn  Kill   
Knockbride  0-6 2-12 Cornafean  Knockbride   
Bailieboro  0-9 0-6 Butlersbridge  Bailieboro   
Shannon Gaels  3-4 5-11 Cootehill  Shannon Gaels

ACFL Reserve Division 3

Arva  1-9 3-7 Ballymachugh  Arva   
Mountnugent  1-7 1-17 Laragh Utd  Mountnugent   
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: hassletravel on April 04, 2011, 06:46:17 AM
Did many of the 26 man panel play
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dougal on April 04, 2011, 11:06:42 AM
mossy corr did from what i heard
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: PhilsJemmysField on April 04, 2011, 11:34:36 AM
Fixtures for next week

Westmeath V Offaly

Waterford V Louth

Limerick V Wexford

Cavan V Tipperary

So all to play for.
McDermott & Mc Kiernan along with Corr played. The first two lads doing the majority of scoring. McKiernan went off injured

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on April 04, 2011, 11:44:55 AM
Quote from: PhilsJemmysField on April 04, 2011, 11:34:36 AM
Fixtures for next week

Westmeath V Offaly

Waterford V Louth

Limerick V Wexford

Cavan V Tipperary

So all to play for.
McDermott & Mc Kiernan along with Corr played. The first two lads doing the majority of scoring. McKiernan went off injured

That would be the big worry going into the Tipp game if them two dont play.  Alot of lads are afraid to shoot and the amount of players who passed the ball on when in a shooting positon is a disgrace at this level.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4sam on April 04, 2011, 12:08:11 PM
Was Dermot Sheridan in the 26 man panel? He played for Mullahoran yesterday. Our 2 boys didn't play and we missed them an awful lot.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dougal on April 04, 2011, 12:40:24 PM
clarke played against drumlane aswel,i would of thought he would of been in the 26 man panel

BHM,was that tierney number 12 for you yesterday?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: PhilsJemmysField on April 04, 2011, 01:01:58 PM
The Panel sent out by secretary, came from County PRO on Friday by the looks of it so may be right

1   James Reilly   An Drong
2   Oisin Moynagh   Cnoc Rua
3   Thomas Corr   An Dinn
4   Dane O Dowd   Droim Leathan
5   Mark Mc Keever   Loch Gamhna
6   Padraig O Reilly   Beal Átha na nÉach
7   Damien Reilly   Béal Tairbeirt
8   John McCutcheon   An Muinchille
9   David Givney   Droichead Uí Dhalaigh
10   Geroid McKiernan   Muileann Iarnainn
11   Ray Cullivan   Beal Atha hÉis
12   Ronan Flanagan   Caislean Reathain
13   Niall McDermott   Beal Átha na nÉach
14   Cian Mackey   Caislean Reathain
15   Eugene Keating   Cuchullains
16   Alan O Mara   Coill An Chollaigh
17   Sean Johnston   Gaeil An Chabhan
18   Keith Fannin   Druim Dhuin Éire Óg
19   Gareth Smith   Naomh Oilibhéar Pluincéid
20   Michael Brennan   Drum an Laoigh
21   Brendan Fitzpatrick   Béal Tairbeirt
22   Niall Murray   Gaeil An Chabhan
23   James McEnroe   Reamór Aonthainthe
24   Dermot Sheridan   Mullach Odhrain
25   Stephen Jordan   An Leamhí
26   Barry Reilly   Dún a Rí
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on April 04, 2011, 03:53:52 PM
Quote from: Dougal on April 04, 2011, 12:40:24 PM
clarke played against drumlane aswel,i would of thought he would of been in the 26 man panel

BHM,was that tierney number 12 for you yesterday?

Yep Dougal, Kevin Tierney was number 12 yesterday.

Result not posted

Ballinagh 0-15 Ballyhaise 0-10.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on April 04, 2011, 04:06:05 PM
Quote from: PhilsJemmysField on April 04, 2011, 01:01:58 PM
The Panel sent out by secretary, came from County PRO on Friday by the looks of it so may be right

1   James Reilly   An Drong
2   Oisin Moynagh   Cnoc Rua
3   Thomas Corr   An Dinn
4   Dane O Dowd   Droim Leathan
5   Mark Mc Keever   Loch Gamhna
6   Padraig O Reilly   Beal Átha na nÉach
7   Damien Reilly   Béal Tairbeirt
8   John McCutcheon   An Muinchille
9   David Givney   Droichead Uí Dhalaigh
10   Geroid McKiernan   Muileann Iarnainn
11   Ray Cullivan   Beal Atha hÉis
12   Ronan Flanagan   Caislean Reathain
13   Niall McDermott   Beal Átha na nÉach
14   Cian Mackey   Caislean Reathain
15   Eugene Keating   Cuchullains
16   Alan O Mara   Coill An Chollaigh
17   Sean Johnston   Gaeil An Chabhan
18   Keith Fannin   Druim Dhuin Éire Óg
19   Gareth Smith   Naomh Oilibhéar Pluincéid
20   Michael Brennan   Drum an Laoigh
21   Brendan Fitzpatrick   Béal Tairbeirt
22   Niall Murray   Gaeil An Chabhan
23   James McEnroe   Reamór Aonthainthe
24   Dermot Sheridan   Mullach Odhrain
25   Stephen Jordan   An Leamhí
26   Barry Reilly   Dún a Rí

From that panel I know that at least 8 lads played with their clubs yesterday. They should all have been let play but there was a meeting after the game Sat evening and after some deliberation they were told that nobody was to play with their club. I hear it was a County Board decision. So whats going to happen now? The decision has completely backfired.Are they going to drop the lads that played?
I know a few players who are rightly pissed off over the whole mess.
Indiscipline, In-fighting and now this.
Training tomorrow night will be interesting.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Ollie on April 05, 2011, 12:35:16 PM
I assume the u21 players won't be available for the tipp game seeing as the final is the following Wednesday. In my opinion this puts us at a huge disadvantage because I feel we would have lost against louth if it weren't for the likes of Mcdermott, Mckiernan and Murray. In fact if a challenge match took place between the Seniors and the u21's I'd expect the U21's would win comfortably. With all the negativity surrounding football in Cavan it's great seeing some fresh talent emerge within the senior ranks.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on April 05, 2011, 12:53:13 PM
Quote from: Ollie on April 05, 2011, 12:35:16 PM
I assume the u21 players won't be available for the tipp game seeing as the final is the following Wednesday. In my opinion this puts us at a huge disadvantage because I feel we would have lost against louth if it weren't for the likes of Mcdermott, Mckiernan and Murray. In fact if a challenge match took place between the Seniors and the u21's I'd expect the U21's would win comfortably. With all the negativity surrounding football in Cavan it's great seeing some fresh talent emerge within the senior ranks.

Yeah its great to see these lads coming in and showing no fear. 

Another couple would do no harm on that team especially a few of the forwards.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: PhilsJemmysField on April 06, 2011, 03:54:33 PM


It rolls on

http://www.hoganstand.com/Cavan/ArticleForm.aspx?ID=145779
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on April 06, 2011, 10:02:36 PM
Tyrone in  the final.  Tough but to win you have to beat the rest to be the best.

Should the U21 players play against Tipp?  Hobson's choice beckons.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dougal on April 06, 2011, 10:15:21 PM
cant see any u21s playing this weekend,should we beat tyrone that would be 3 games in 7 days at a very high level for any that play against tipp,cant see them being risked.looking forward to this game,brewster im guessing?that would be our 5th game in a row at brewster in u21s.id be confident we'll have a massive support with us.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4sam on April 06, 2011, 10:35:31 PM
What club had 4 players on the 26 man squad?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on April 06, 2011, 10:51:06 PM
There is no way those u21s should be on the panel on Sunday.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on April 07, 2011, 12:01:11 AM
Quote from: cavan4sam on April 06, 2011, 10:35:31 PM
What club had 4 players on the 26 man squad?

Not really correct Tom. He's talking about Ballinagh there. They have 4 still on the panel but 2 (Gaynor and Pee Wee) are not on the 26.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on April 07, 2011, 03:26:32 AM
Tyrone? Shite. We haven't beaten them in a game of consequence, at any level, since a league game under Martin McHugh in the spring of 1997!

Hope we lay that bogey, we've a terrible inferiority complex when it comes to facing them at underage despite having had the beating of them numerous times over the years.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on April 07, 2011, 06:50:41 AM
Quote from: cavanmaniac on April 07, 2011, 03:26:32 AM
Tyrone? Shite. We haven't beaten them in a game of consequence, at any level, since a league game under Martin McHugh in the spring of 1997!

Hope we lay that bogey, we've a terrible inferiority complex when it comes to facing them at underage despite having had the beating of them numerous times over the years.

I get the feeling that this team don't give a shit about history. Also not sure this tyrone team are as good as some would have us believe
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on April 07, 2011, 08:10:34 AM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on April 06, 2011, 10:51:06 PM
There is no way those u21s should be on the panel on Sunday.

Andrews said in the Celt that they wont be.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dougal on April 07, 2011, 10:01:12 AM
Quote from: boojangles on April 07, 2011, 12:01:11 AM
Quote from: cavan4sam on April 06, 2011, 10:35:31 PM
What club had 4 players on the 26 man squad?

Not really correct Tom. He's talking about Ballinagh there. They have 4 still on the panel but 2 (Gaynor and Pee Wee) are not on the 26.

so how big is the full training squad?both of them played on sunday so hes wrong in saying they are on the panel and wrong in saying that the 4 didint play on sunday.4/5  ballinagh players in with the county,thats impressive,could go very far this year if they want it enough.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on April 07, 2011, 10:42:08 AM
Quote from: Dougal on April 07, 2011, 10:01:12 AM
Quote from: boojangles on April 07, 2011, 12:01:11 AM
Quote from: cavan4sam on April 06, 2011, 10:35:31 PM
What club had 4 players on the 26 man squad?

Not really correct Tom. He's talking about Ballinagh there. They have 4 still on the panel but 2 (Gaynor and Pee Wee) are not on the 26.

so how big is the full training squad?both of them played on sunday so hes wrong in saying they are on the panel and wrong in saying that the 4 didint play on sunday.4/5  ballinagh players in with the county,thats impressive,could go very far this year if they want it enough.

I believe with injuries and no U-21s this weekend the panel is down to the bare bones.
What is happening with Givney? He wasnt togged out on Saturday evening.I hope he isn't looking at a lengthy lay-off. Could his spokesperson Whats my name please fill us in?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on April 07, 2011, 10:51:38 AM
I think his back his still at him he damaged 2 discs in his back in a who can lift the most competition one night at training.

Im sure his spokesman will confirm or reject these rumours.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on April 07, 2011, 12:28:40 PM
Ballinagh have lots of good players but are a hit and miss team.. They have started the league well so far but i wouldn't be surprised if they were to lose the next couple of games. Gaynor is sill involved but hasnt played a game yet or made a match panel which is strange.. He was excellent when eammon coleman was manager, never got a look under keoghan or carr.. If he keeps his head right he is a great centre or wing back.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Swadman on April 07, 2011, 01:20:48 PM
I happened to be at the door when the Cavan team was comning in from the warm up in prep for the Louth game. Givney came in hobbling just ahead of them  aided by a physio (I think) He was listed and wearing the number 9 jersey but must have done the ankle (or the other one) in the warm up. It's a pity but I reckon he should stay off the field until its fully healed or he will always have trouble with it.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: whats my name on April 07, 2011, 02:02:02 PM
good one boojangles............. eh from what i heard at training he has a bluging disc in his back lads but i heard he will be able to play at the weekend if selected. no futher questions at this time people
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on April 09, 2011, 01:10:45 PM
Make or break time.  Comme on Cavan.

From Hoganstand.

Givney returns for Cavan

Cavan's David Givney
08 April 2011


David Givney makes his return to the Cavan starting line-up for this Sunday's crucial NFL Division Three clash with Tipperary at Kingspan Breffni Park (throw-in 2.30pm).

The Mountnugent clubman, who missed out on last Saturday night's win over Louth due to a pre-match injury, which saw Cavan Gaels youngster Niall Murray receive a late call up, comes in at centre-field alongside John McCutcheon and is one of four changes made by management duo Val Andrews and Terry Hyland.



Captain Sean Johnston returns to the side at right corner-forward, having recovered from the injury which reduced him to a substitute appearance last weekend, while Keith Fannin and Ramor's James McEnroe come in at right half-forward and right corner-back, respectively.

As expected, Niall McDermott, Gearoid McKiernan and Oisin Minagh have all been rested after impressing against Louth, with Hyland's Under 21 side due to meet Tyrone in the Ulster championship final on Wednesday night in Enniskillen.

A win for Cavan on Sunday will see them maintain their place in the third tier of the NFL for next season, while anything less would see them depending on other results in the division to avoid the drop.

Cavan (NFL v Tipperary): J Reilly; J McEnroe, T Corr, D O'Dowd; M McKeever, P O'Reilly, D O'Reilly; J McCutcheon, D Givney; K Fannin, R Cullivan, R Flanagan; S Johnston, C Mackey, E Keating.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on April 09, 2011, 02:23:00 PM
Decent side.. Hopefully Givney's year can start properly tomorrow. No matter what the team is, this is a relegation match, it doesn't have to be pretty, but I expect to see a trojan effort from every man..
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Breffni_Yank on April 09, 2011, 03:27:10 PM
I'd be very worried about that full-back line....From what I have seen and read in the papers Tipp are decent up top
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on April 09, 2011, 06:11:51 PM
Ashamed to say this will be my first time watching the seniors this season. It gets harder and harder to make these games with a young family in a far away county! Anyway, I think this will be a tough game cos Tipp are also at risk of going down and they will not want to follow up promotions from Div 4 to Div 2 in 2 seasons with relegation straight back down in the next 2 seasons. We need the likes of Givney and Johnston to up their game and show the levels of ability they are capable of.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Mr. Pain on April 09, 2011, 10:05:03 PM
Oh no he di-hint! OH YES HE DID! Best of luck to Cavan seniors tomorrow and U21's on Wednesday. If they can pull it off it would be just delightful.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on April 10, 2011, 03:33:14 PM
The difference between Div 1 and Div 3 is obvious when you listen to the commentators on Northern Sound.  Tynan has time to wax lyrical about shi1e compared to the guy commenting on the Monaghan game.

For those away, Final Score

Tipp    0 13
Cavan  0 16

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tierworker blue on April 10, 2011, 04:35:37 PM
Div 3 here we...stay! 16 - 13 win. Givney sent off half way through the 2nd half (second yellow.) Tipp made a comeback of sorts in the last ten mins, when we were down to 14 men, but we hung on. Anthony Gaynor came on at chb. Decent performance all round.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on April 10, 2011, 08:53:31 PM
A decent performance today in patched. We were 3 up at half time without really doing a lot. The 2nd half Givney started to lord midfield and for 15 minutes we trounced Tipp and scored some magnificent points. Johnston, Keating and Fannin getting some real sweat ones. Then the ridiculous ref gave givney a 2nd yellow (neither was worthy of one) and the whole game changed with Tipp winning midfield outright for the last 10 minutes. We were 9 points ahead at one stage and clung onto a 3 point win. The positives were Johnston who was brilliant when he got the ball, excellent from frees and I even witnessed him tracking back deep into his own half on 2 or 3 occasions. Hopefully this is a sign of  the new Johnston and if it is he could be one of the best forwards in Ireland. Other positives was the excellent Givney, McKeever and a good 1/4 from Keating. However, the biggest cheer of the match came when the prodigal son Gaynor came on. Shortly after he won a dirty ball on the ground, surrounded by three Tipp players he busted through them and went of like a hare, ran straight into their ctr back but off loaded the ball to Keating just before and Keating landed a monster of a point from 50 yards. Thats what the fans love about Gaynor, lets hope we see a bit more of it. Was also impressed with Keating, he is as strong as a horse and when he took the notion he ran through tipp players but he doesn't do it enough but hopefully this performance will give him confidence. Tipp can thank the ref for most of their scores coming from soft frees all the way through. Bit worried about the FB line, tried hard but the corner backs aren't sticky enough for me although corr did ok.

Now for Wednesday.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on April 10, 2011, 09:13:22 PM
Thanks for the review Myles.  Northern Sound doesn't really tell it how it is. 

Come on Cavan!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on April 10, 2011, 09:27:35 PM
Quote from: Denn Forever on April 10, 2011, 09:13:22 PM
Thanks for the review Myles.  Northern Sound doesn't really tell it how it is. 

Come on Cavan!

They are the biggest recruiter for the match, sure you'd have to be totally stuck to sit at home and listen to that imbecile Tynan (i know it has happened to me a lot this year), he doesn't describe the game for the listener at all just waffles on for 5 minutes about irrelevant stuff.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on April 11, 2011, 12:00:04 AM
Great win today, good performances all round but Johnston, Damien Reilly, Givney for his time on the field for the 2nd half all stood out.

I was just looking at the U-21 Championship facebook page, lots of comments from Wexford fans saying things like "Bring on Tyrone".. We're being looked past completely. Lets hope Tyrone are as complacent.. I have a sneaky feeling they'll do the business.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on April 11, 2011, 03:19:04 PM
Good win yesterday,i wouldnt worry too much about the comeback in the last 10 minutes, as
We lost both starting midfielders and our next midfield option(Podge).
Eugene Keating kicked two outrageous points,Givney kicked a great one,as did Flanagan,Fannin and Nesty's outside of the left from 45 was a thing of beauty.
Ciaran McDonald is a good defender,but he just couldnt handle Jelly yesterday.
It was a great performance from the captain,0-9/0-10 points.
John McCutcheon must have brought some sort of injury problem into the game because he wasnt moving well to be begin with.
Damien O Reily had a very good game,and id have to disagree with Myles,i thought Dane O Dowd done a very good job overall on Barry Grogan,and that James McEnroe competed well for what was his first IC appearance.
Theres going to be some competition for places,when you add in the under 21's

Niall Murray
Gearoid McKiernan
Niall McDermott
Oisin Minagh
Barry Reily???

alongside the subs who came on
Dermot Sheridan
Anthony Gaynor
Nesty

Adding in
Michael Brennan
Martin Cahill
Alan Clarke
Gerard Pierson
Michael Lyng
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on April 11, 2011, 03:40:08 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on April 11, 2011, 03:19:04 PM
Good win yesterday,i wouldnt worry too much about the comeback in the last 10 minutes, as
We lost both starting midfielders and our next midfield option(Podge).
Eugene Keating kicked two outrageous points,Givney kicked a great one,as did Flanagan,Fannin and Nesty's outside of the left from 45 was a thing of beauty.
Ciaran McDonald is a good defender,but he just couldnt handle Jelly yesterday.
It was a great performance from the captain,0-9/0-10 points.
John McCutcheon must have brought some sort of injury problem into the game because he wasnt moving well to be begin with.
Damien O Reily had a very good game,and id have to disagree with Myles,i thought Dane O Dowd done a very good job overall on Barry Grogan,and that James McEnroe competed well for what was his first IC appearance.
Theres going to be some competition for places,when you add in the under 21's

Niall Murray
Gearoid McKiernan
Niall McDermott
Oisin Minagh
Barry Reily???

alongside the subs who came on
Dermot Sheridan
Anthony Gaynor
Nesty

Adding in
Michael Brennan
Martin Cahill
Alan Clarke
Gerard Pierson
Michael Lyng

Its not that I think they were poor or anything BHM, they just don't strike me as corner backs as they tended to let their man win the ball and then do the defending. But I suppose for 2 new lads not too bad.

Whats the story with Pierson, hes playing with Gowna but not with Cavan. Has he left the panel?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on April 11, 2011, 03:46:14 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on April 11, 2011, 03:40:08 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on April 11, 2011, 03:19:04 PM
Good win yesterday,i wouldnt worry too much about the comeback in the last 10 minutes, as
We lost both starting midfielders and our next midfield option(Podge).
Eugene Keating kicked two outrageous points,Givney kicked a great one,as did Flanagan,Fannin and Nesty's outside of the left from 45 was a thing of beauty.
Ciaran McDonald is a good defender,but he just couldnt handle Jelly yesterday.
It was a great performance from the captain,0-9/0-10 points.
John McCutcheon must have brought some sort of injury problem into the game because he wasnt moving well to be begin with.
Damien O Reily had a very good game,and id have to disagree with Myles,i thought Dane O Dowd done a very good job overall on Barry Grogan,and that James McEnroe competed well for what was his first IC appearance.
Theres going to be some competition for places,when you add in the under 21's

Niall Murray
Gearoid McKiernan
Niall McDermott
Oisin Minagh
Barry Reily???

alongside the subs who came on
Dermot Sheridan
Anthony Gaynor
Nesty

Adding in
Michael Brennan
Martin Cahill
Alan Clarke
Gerard Pierson
Michael Lyng

Its not that I think they were poor or anything BHM, they just don't strike me as corner backs as they tended to let their man win the ball and then do the defending. But I suppose for 2 new lads not too bad.

Whats the story with Pierson, hes playing with Gowna but not with Cavan. Has he left the panel?

Injured as far as i know. O Dowd and McEnroe wouldnt be natural Cornerbacks,so you have a point,i am not sure if either will start come June.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on April 11, 2011, 03:46:24 PM
Would you guys think things are better than they were this time last year guys?

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on April 11, 2011, 03:50:37 PM
Quote from: tommysmith on April 11, 2011, 03:46:24 PM
Would you guys think things are better than they were this time last year guys?

Yep.
The panel is far stronger overall in my opinion.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: whats my name on April 11, 2011, 03:52:43 PM
yea we are in a far better position then last year all the u-21s to come in there will be great competition for places thats what cavan need strong squad with stiff competition for each position
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on April 11, 2011, 04:11:38 PM
Yeah it may not have been a good league but i think that there are lads in there now who want to be there to play football for Cavan.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on April 11, 2011, 04:12:59 PM
The only place we are lacking seriously is depth at Midfield,If Gearoid McK or David G get injured,we are in a bit of trouble.
Givneys injury hurt big time last year,we certainly wouldnt have lost by anything close to the amount we did against Cork,if he had been playing.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on April 11, 2011, 04:17:29 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on April 11, 2011, 04:12:59 PM
The only place we are lacking seriously is depth at Midfield,If Gearoid McK or David G get injured,we are in a bit of trouble.
Givneys injury hurt big time last year,we certainly wouldnt have lost by anything close to the amount we did against Cork,if he had been playing.

Full back line ?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on April 11, 2011, 04:28:19 PM
Quote from: tommysmith on April 11, 2011, 04:17:29 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on April 11, 2011, 04:12:59 PM
The only place we are lacking seriously is depth at Midfield,If Gearoid McK or David G get injured,we are in a bit of trouble.
Givneys injury hurt big time last year,we certainly wouldnt have lost by anything close to the amount we did against Cork,if he had been playing.

Full back line ?

i dont think so, Tommy.
Whilst our full back line hasnt been anything approaching great over the past number of years.
The problems in the most part all stemmed from Cavan losing the midfield battles,sometimes being destroyed in virtually every game.
You could have put, Marc O Se, Michael Shiels and Ryan McMenamin in there in certain games,and they would have gotten destroyed.

Givney and McKiernan are a gigantic improvement over our midfield options over the last number of years,certainly the best since McCabe and McKenna circa 2005,and in time id expect them to be much better.

I think our full back line will be alright.


Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: PhilsJemmysField on April 12, 2011, 10:18:36 AM
Assume everybody ok for tomorrow night. Is McKiernan alright
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on April 13, 2011, 03:42:09 PM
Best of luck to all involved tonight. Believe!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on April 13, 2011, 03:47:45 PM
Quote from: boojangles on April 13, 2011, 03:42:09 PM
Best of luck to all involved tonight. Believe!

+1^2
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tierworker blue on April 13, 2011, 03:48:26 PM
Come on the blues!!!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on April 13, 2011, 04:17:44 PM
Getting nervous now.  Come on Cavan.

Quote from: mylestheslasher on April 13, 2011, 03:47:45 PM
Quote from: boojangles on April 13, 2011, 03:42:09 PM
Best of luck to all involved tonight. Believe!

+1^2

+1^2 is still +1

I agree wholeheartedly with all the sentiments expressed here.  For  all who will be there, I have to listen to Northern Sound :'(
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on April 13, 2011, 04:29:26 PM
Nerves are starting! We'll enjoy tonight, Cavan supporters won't get to too many Ulster finals so make the most of it. Best of luck to the boys, show these Johnny-Come-Lately Red Hands who the real Kings of Ulster are!!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: whats my name on April 13, 2011, 05:17:49 PM
best of luck lads tonight turn the corner for cavan football
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dougal on April 13, 2011, 06:02:46 PM
best of luck to everyone involved tonight.hopefully they can bring home the trophy.   :)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on April 13, 2011, 07:18:15 PM
I think we can turn the corner tonight, best of luck to all players. mentors supporters etc. Lost a final in 95 to win one in 96, here's to a repeat of history
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BigMac on April 13, 2011, 09:34:32 PM
Fantastic!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: whats my name on April 13, 2011, 09:35:58 PM
unbelievable some feeling well done to all the lads you's made your county proud
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on April 13, 2011, 09:40:55 PM
absolutely bloody chuffed for everybody involved especially Terry Hyland. Thank you. I like many Cavan exiles will rock into work with the chest a bit further out than in a very long time. Serious monkey off the back with the Red Hand lads
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: offthebeatentrack on April 13, 2011, 09:43:30 PM
Well done lads, brilliant! Delighted. Here we can see the work at underage level coming through. Nice to be in An All Ireland Final.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on April 13, 2011, 09:57:08 PM
http://vimeo.com/22360666


hope the link works more at jeromequinnvideo.com
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on April 13, 2011, 10:00:54 PM
Quote from: offthebeatentrack on April 13, 2011, 09:43:30 PM
Well done lads, brilliant! Delighted. Here we can see the work at underage level coming through. Nice to be in An All Ireland Final.

Brilliant but we're not in the final yet. 

Wexford in Parnell Park on Saturday.  Wonder will it be on TV or is it Michael Tynan again?

Martin McHugh was impressed by McKiernan.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: offthebeatentrack on April 13, 2011, 10:10:04 PM
Sorry meant semi final!!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on April 13, 2011, 11:29:46 PM
My god,that was sweet!!! The Drive back to Dublin will be a happy one.
Workrate was fantastic,
Gearoid,Jack Brady,Niall Murray,Packie Leddy,Michael Brady,Damien Barkey and Kev Meehan were outstanding,but every single one of them from 1-30+management deserve great credit.
Fergal Flanagan had the most thankless job on the field tonight,with Kyle Coney,but he done terrifically,A word for Big Paddy King kicking two inspirational and crucial points after coming on aswell.

Dublin  at 1.30am wont ever again look as good as it will tonight.  8)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on April 13, 2011, 11:34:54 PM
Just landed back in the west - very proud of them lads today. A new generation of Cavan men are born that won't lie down to any team. More thoughts after I get some sleep!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on April 14, 2011, 12:08:51 AM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on April 13, 2011, 11:29:46 PM
Dublin  at 1.30am wont ever again look as good as it will tonight.  8)

Coppers??

;D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: beer baron on April 14, 2011, 12:12:23 AM
Heard on the way out of the ground the games been changed from this weekend to next?It was from an old man i'd never spoken to before so not paying much heed,anyone hear anything?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on April 14, 2011, 12:12:47 AM
Brillant win for the u21s.. Some top class games from g mckiernan, kevin meehan, jack brady, fergal flanagan, nial murray. Wexford on saturday at 7 in parnell park. I'm confident we can make the final after tonights performance
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dougal on April 14, 2011, 12:17:18 AM
well done to everyone involved,great display from all tonight.im at a loss for words.think there was word of it being changed but its fixed fro this sat now.think i was standing beside you on the pitch,baron,but not sure.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Mr. Pain on April 14, 2011, 12:22:04 AM
Well that was delightful! Well done to all involved! "I like to move it move it....."
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: beer baron on April 14, 2011, 12:57:57 AM
Quote from: Dougal on April 14, 2011, 12:17:18 AM
well done to everyone involved,great display from all tonight.im at a loss for words.think there was word of it being changed but its fixed fro this sat now.think i was standing beside you on the pitch,baron,but not sure.

Couldn't tell ya dougal!Too busy roaring like an eejit  ;D,lost my lift home for an hour or so!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tierworker blue on April 14, 2011, 01:04:14 AM
Brilliant stuff tonight...fair play to every single man in the breffni blue! It was great to finally get the Tyrone monkey off our backs, and psychologically, getting a win over them (at any level!) is a massive hurdle crossed! The work rate in Brewster was fantastic and some excellent football was played. Decent Cavan support also...we were very much in the majority of the 5000 and something crowd. Lets all be seen and heard in Parnell Park on Saturday evening...onwards and upwards!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on April 14, 2011, 01:04:42 AM
Quote from: beer baron on April 14, 2011, 12:57:57 AM
Quote from: Dougal on April 14, 2011, 12:17:18 AM
well done to everyone involved,great display from all tonight.im at a loss for words.think there was word of it being changed but its fixed fro this sat now.think i was standing beside you on the pitch,baron,but not sure.

Couldn't tell ya dougal!Too busy roaring like an eejit  ;D,lost my lift home for an hour or so!

Ya f**ker ya - you should have been at training...  >:( >:( >:(
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on April 14, 2011, 02:57:36 AM
Yesssssssssssssssssssssssss we can!!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on April 14, 2011, 08:59:20 AM
Quote from: Celt_Man on April 14, 2011, 01:04:42 AM
Quote from: beer baron on April 14, 2011, 12:57:57 AM
Quote from: Dougal on April 14, 2011, 12:17:18 AM
well done to everyone involved,great display from all tonight.im at a loss for words.think there was word of it being changed but its fixed fro this sat now.think i was standing beside you on the pitch,baron,but not sure.

Couldn't tell ya dougal!Too busy roaring like an eejit  ;D,lost my lift home for an hour or so!

Ya f**ker ya - you should have been at training...  >:( >:( >:(


Great night for Cavan football and credit to all involved.

I do hope that you are joking at barron about training though as to have club training on a night the county is in an Ulster final would be a disgrace.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: PhilsJemmysField on April 14, 2011, 10:05:57 AM
A CHARA,

The Under 21 All –Ireland Football semi final  Cavan /Tyrone v Wexford has been fixed for  Parnell Park Dublin on Saturday next at 7 p.m.
We have tried to get this changed but to no avail.

Mise le meas,
Liam Mac Cába,
Runaí,
Coiste Breffni Uí Raghallaigh
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on April 14, 2011, 12:20:08 PM
Super team display last night. The workrate was immense. We didnt play to our full potential and still won so that is a good sign.
We can all be quick to blame the management in defeat( as was done last year) but IMO serious credit has to go to the line for getting all the calls right last night.
Dara Tighe was having an off day and was replaced. Niall Smith was having an off day and was replaced. Turloc Mooney steadied things up and looked composed in possession. Paddy King kicked 2 monster scores to seal it. Feargal Flanagan also did an excellent man marking job on Coney.
Wexford on Saturday will be tough considering the circumstances but if the lads can replicate the work rate from last night then we are in with a great shout.
Cabhan Abu.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on April 14, 2011, 12:41:40 PM
Quote from: boojangles on April 14, 2011, 12:20:08 PM
Super team display last night. The workrate was immense. We didnt play to our full potential and still won so that is a good sign.
We can all be quick to blame the management in defeat( as was done last year) but IMO serious credit has to go to the line for getting all the calls right last night.
Dara Tighe was having an off day and was replaced. Niall Smith was having an off day and was replaced. Turloc Mooney steadied things up and looked composed in possession. Paddy King kicked 2 monster scores to seal it. Feargal Flanagan also did an excellent man marking job on Coney.
Wexford on Saturday will be tough considering the circumstances but if the lads can replicate the work rate from last night then we are in with a great shout.
Cabhan Abu.

100% right. The changes made were spot on. What also impressed me is that the MOM on the previous two rounds didn't have their best games in Barry Reilly and Niall McDermott but other lads really stepped up. Barkley was a real pain for Tyrone, McKiernan was massive at midfield, Minagh had a great game at FB and Flanagan did an excellent job on keeping Coney quiet. Paddy King was tremendous when he came on and considering he got no game time in the previous rounds he can be delighted with his 2 points and also winning some vital possession at critical times. Mooney did real well too when he went to ctr back. We didn't do everything right but the attitude was 100% and the effort was 100%. No man lay down or hid on the field. If we could get that attitude through all the age groups right up the senior then I think no one would complain in defeat.

McKiernan is some boy. Did ye see him pulling the shorts of the Tyrone player during the match and then his "f**king Hyland" line in the speech!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on April 14, 2011, 12:53:03 PM
I agree that Hyland and the management deserve credit for making the changes required, something they do with the Senior team also and it's refreshing, but someone said Niall Smith had a poor game, I'd have to disagree I thought he added a lot of composure on the ball, did the smart thing all the time and hurt Tyrone with his runs. In fact when he came off everyone around me was shocked saying that it was a huge mistake. I did think McDermott should perhaps have been off earlier as it wasn't his night but who cares as long as we won it...

I saw Gearoid pulling down yourman's shorts, funny allright, and a small payback for the Number 9 who had just kicked him in the stomach as he lay on the ground a minute before..
I think the Ref told Gearoid before he threw in the ball at the second half that Tighe was on his last chance, Gearoid ran down and whispered something to Tighe who dropped his head looking disappointed and then he ran over and told the managers something.

I just hope the lads can recover. Even apart from the physical aspect the Wexford lads have had time to let the win settle mentally and get hungry for the Semi Final, our lads don't have that luxury.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dougal on April 14, 2011, 01:14:47 PM
Gearoid pulling down your mans shorts,was that early enough in the game?i thought he gave the lad a box in the hole,maybe it was two different incidents  ;D

hopefuly the lads can keep up our 100% record in u21 AI semi finals
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on April 14, 2011, 01:29:19 PM
No he pulled the shorts stunt with about 10 minutes to go.. :D His tackle towards the end was brilliant too.. I thought they could have fed Jack Brady more in the second half, he was inside on his own and had the beating of his man.
Cavan were a lot cuter this year, they slowed things down when they needed to, they fouled out the field and slowed the free taker. Not the beautiful aspects of the game but necessary to win as Donegal showed us last year.
Anyone see Barry Reilly's interview?? Now there's a Cavan accent lads... :D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dougal on April 14, 2011, 02:13:58 PM
he gave a lad a box up the hole aswel then.they were quite slow to play the ball into the forwards in the second half alright.wheres barry interview?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on April 14, 2011, 02:19:33 PM
That was some hit on the Tyrone Number 12, by Fergal Flanagan was it?
Hopefully the Tyrone player is alright.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on April 14, 2011, 02:20:45 PM
http://thescore.thejournal.ie/watch-cavan-stun-tyrone-to-take-ulster-u-21-crown-121038-Apr2011/
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on April 14, 2011, 04:15:40 PM
Lads what do ye reckon, will all this weekends league Action be called off??? or will it go ahead without the Under 21 Panel members.
Barcode isnt far from Parnell afterall!!!!  ;)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on April 14, 2011, 04:24:11 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on April 14, 2011, 04:15:40 PM
Lads what do ye reckon, will all this weekends league Action be called off??? or will it go ahead without the Under 21 Panel members.
Barcode isnt far from Parnell afterall!!!!  ;)

Front page of Hoganstand says games are off but if clubs agree to play sunday they can.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dougal on April 14, 2011, 04:26:08 PM
hoganstand has an email from orla reilly up,it says all div 1,2 and 3 games off,unless both teams agree to play on the sunday,reserve fixtures are being refixed for sunday.div 1,2 and 3 is refixed for wed the 18th of may.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanforever on April 14, 2011, 05:29:34 PM
that was barkey who gave number 12 the shoulder. he had to be stretchered off as a result. but by god i never seen a hit like it before
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on April 14, 2011, 07:37:10 PM
http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/52151000/jpg/_52151583_leddymcquaid.jpg


Best bit of highlights I could find, hope it works
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on April 14, 2011, 07:38:30 PM
feckit, it's on the BBC northern Ireland GAA thread
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up-again on April 14, 2011, 09:34:40 PM
I know I have been lying low lately but can I just take this moment to say....

'Yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeow!

Great opportunity for the county on Saturday. Should be a good Cavan crowd there. Great craic when the 'Cavan' chant was going towards the end of the game! Some great scenes after the game too  ;D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: gortnaleck on April 15, 2011, 01:14:12 AM
I have to say that Tynan never sounded as good.Roll on Wexford
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tierworker blue on April 15, 2011, 01:35:30 PM
Some highlights set to a bit of tuneage...
http://www.jeromequinnmedia.com/watch/Cavan-Music-Tribute---Ulster-U-21-Champions-2011-446
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dougal on April 15, 2011, 03:57:10 PM
who was the smith lad that came on for us near the end?colm or connor i think.there must be  or 5 colm or connor smiths playing around the county.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on April 15, 2011, 04:35:12 PM
Colm Smith from Kingscourt was it?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on April 16, 2011, 08:51:17 PM
And now for Galway.  Where is the final?

Well done Lads.  It was looking dodgy for a while but as they say, Goals win games.

Big smile on my face!

Copperface Jacks won't know what hit it.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on April 16, 2011, 10:09:01 PM
Tg4 show the whole Galway Cork game and not even the highlights of our Semi??? Joke.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tierworker blue on April 16, 2011, 10:28:24 PM
Yessss! There'll be no cows milked in Dublin 2 tonight!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: trim blue on April 17, 2011, 12:10:20 AM
Brilliant result tonight, great to see a Cavan team with self belief and a winning habit...
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: drici on April 17, 2011, 01:24:34 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fmFNy87cS9g
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: club_man on April 17, 2011, 02:47:33 PM
Anyone know if there are any highlights of last nights game available? Can't seem to find any on the net.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on April 17, 2011, 03:41:09 PM
It wasnt pretty last night, Wexford got through for 3/4 good goal chances, O Mara made some terrific saves as did Fergal Flanagan with his brilliant double save on the line.
Packie Leddy must be the fittest footballer in Cavan,the amount of work he got through last night was amazing.
Kevin Meehan was absolutely terrific for me,Damien Barkey and Darragh Tighe were very good, as were Niall Murray and Niall McDermott and the brilliant Jack Brady.
Gearoid was obviously struggling from Wednesday nights exertions,and was shifted in to Centre Half and Full Forward for periods to recuperate.
The guts,determination and workrate shown last night was a joy to watch.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on April 17, 2011, 10:52:41 PM
Well done to Paul Brady who won a record 8th ai title in a row today. Great weekend for Cavan gaa!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on April 17, 2011, 10:59:48 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on April 17, 2011, 10:52:41 PM
Well done to Paul Brady who won a record 8th ai title in a row today. Great weekend for Cavan gaa!

So the story that he had a broken finger that was in the Celt was just mind games?  Serve me right for believing the Celt.

Well done Paul.  Any thing to Michael Brady on the U21s?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Breffni_Yank on April 18, 2011, 06:54:32 AM
Well done to all involved with Cavan. Its funny how much things can change in a week. The seniors finished their league strong and the 21's got some much needed silverware.

I was at the Ulster final and the lads deserve huge praise for the work, effort and spirit they showed. Its all we ever wanted to see from people in the Cavan jersey and the whole lift these boys have given to the county is fantastic. McKiernan's performance was amazing and just epitomized the team.

I couldn't make it on Saturday but it can't have been easy for them to have to play again so quick. Anyway they got the win I suppose  and we all have an All-Ireland final to look forward too. God, I never thought i would be saying that again.

Three of the boy's talk after the game here. Young Meehan doesn't get too excited anyway from the looks of things ;D If I won an Alll-Ireland semi-final I'd be a hyper lunatic!

http://www.youtube.com/user/GAACavan#p/u/0/6dwD3A3iOHw
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: PhilsJemmysField on April 18, 2011, 10:57:43 AM
Latest word on fixtures

Any club with county under 21 players will have their fixture postponed unless they agree to play the fixture without their county under 21 panelist.
 
If your club agrees to play please let me know by the tomorrow evening at 8pm before the CCC.
 
The re fixture for these games will be on Wednesday 25th May 2011.
 

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on April 18, 2011, 11:25:42 AM
So, all around to Myles' gaff for a cup of tea and ham sandwiches before the final.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on April 18, 2011, 12:02:10 PM
I cant see any confirmation off where the final is to be played.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: PhilsJemmysField on April 18, 2011, 06:01:14 PM
Under 21 final v Galway will take place in Croke Park on Sunday 1st May at 2 p.m.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on April 18, 2011, 06:11:26 PM
From Hoganstand.

There should be a big crowd for the other game as well.

The Division 1 Allianz Hurling League Final between Dublin and Kilkenny will take place in Croke Park on Sunday May 1st at 4pm. It will be preceded by the Cadbury All Ireland U21 Football Final between Cavan and Galway which will get underway at 2pm.



Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on April 18, 2011, 08:56:14 PM
Quote from: Denn Forever on April 18, 2011, 06:11:26 PM
From Hoganstand.

There should be a big crowd for the other game as well.

The Division 1 Allianz Hurling League Final between Dublin and Kilkenny will take place in Croke Park on Sunday May 1st at 4pm. It will be preceded by the Cadbury All Ireland U21 Football Final between Cavan and Galway which will get underway at 2pm.

FFS Mrs Slasher is after going out and buying a trailor load of biscuits and now ye hoors aren't even coming!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Babe Ruth 47 on April 18, 2011, 08:56:52 PM
Highlights of the Wexford game just after being on TG4! Came across it half way though completely by chance. Dunno why they couldn't have shown them the other evening along with the other highlights.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: trim blue on April 18, 2011, 10:02:40 PM
 >:(Shit missed that too, think that TG4 GAA programme is repeated on Sat mornings though
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on April 18, 2011, 10:37:50 PM
http://youtu.be/Kj0BNu8SAx0

Enjoy lads! :D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Babe Ruth 47 on April 18, 2011, 10:44:00 PM
Try this..........

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kj0BNu8SAx0&feature=player_embedded
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on April 18, 2011, 10:52:25 PM
Quote from: Westside on April 18, 2011, 10:37:50 PM
http://youtu.be/Kj0BNu8SAx0

Enjoy lads! :D

Fair play to ya.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: trim blue on April 18, 2011, 11:14:07 PM
Quote from: Westside on Today at 10:37:50 PM
http://youtu.be/Kj0BNu8SAx0

Enjoy lads!


Fair play to ya.


Deadly, here is TG4 link which has good highlights of Tyrone game as well, some great scores in the Wexford match..
http://live.tg4.ie/main.aspx?content=571973079041
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Swadman on April 20, 2011, 10:03:11 AM
Quote from: rodney trotter on April 19, 2011, 12:35:17 PM
I heard its all ticket for the final in Croke Park
Yep, with the Dubs in the hurling afterwards I'm not taking the chance of getting a ticket at the gate so our club secretary is taking names (& €25) Must have list in before noon on Sunday 24th
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on April 22, 2011, 10:07:03 PM
Re-opening of Packie Devlin Pitch Killeshandra


On Saturday next the 30th of April years of hard work will come to fruition with the grand re-opening of the Killeshandra Club Grounds. To mark this momentous occasion a family friendly day full of spraoi agus craic has been organised for your enjoyment!


Clár an Lá:

3p.m.Curtain raiser Killeshandra Leaguers take on Ballyconnell First Ulsters

5p.m.The field will be officially opened by Mícheál Ó Muircheartaigh

6p.m. The Down senior football team, last year's All Ireland finalists will play Cavan

Throughout the day there will also be music and dancing provided by the Scór participants from our club and Comhaltas Ceoltóirí Éireann. The teams will parade behind the Mountain Road pipe band and the clubs juveniles will show off their skills at half time during the games. Refreshments will be available on the day.

The club has compiled a book to mark the occasion which will be on sale throughout the day.

We look forward to a wonderful day of sport, music and dancing which is not to be missed!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on April 25, 2011, 10:42:10 AM
Who did Killinkere, Crosserlough or Packie Smith p*ss off?

Killinkere  Crosserlough  Mullahoran 01/05/2011 15:30 Packie Smith
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: beer baron on April 25, 2011, 12:01:14 PM
Quote from: Denn Forever on April 25, 2011, 10:42:10 AM
Who did Killinkere, Crosserlough or Packie Smith p*ss off?

Killinkere  Crosserlough  Mullahoran 01/05/2011 15:30 Packie Smith

Surely it can't go ahead?Well actually it is the Cavan board so............. ::)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on April 26, 2011, 12:16:07 PM
Not a bad few weeks so. As well as the Under 21's was quite happy we kept our place in what was always going to be a tough enough Division 3. In fact a win against Limerick would have had us up to Division 2 I think. You'd like to think the Under 21's will give a bit of a bounce to the senior panel and we can go into the first round with a bit of hope. Would be nice to see a few games won through the qualifiers at least.

Next year I'd like to think we would see about a dozen lads from last years and this years under 21 panels involved and see a few messers pensioned off once and for all. Good to see Terry Hyland having continued success and you'd hope his involvement in the senior panel is cemented for a few years at any rate. Make a change from all the chopping, changing, outside managers etc. etc.

Specific issue I'd be interested in getting the opinion of a few of the lads that are playing ball at the minute. We have any number of lads in their mid-20's (Lyng, Gaynor, Pierson, McKeever, Hannon) who burst on the inter county scene aged 19 or so. Whether through injury, poor management or other matters they haven't all realised their potential, maybe they were thrown in too soon for their own good. If some of those lads could be got to buy into the sort of team/work ethic that the under 21's seem to have they could be a great addition to have around the senior panel over the next two to three years. The question is whether it's gone a bit too late for some of the lads to re-invent themselves. Any opinions?

I still think of some of the championship performances Lyng, Gaynor and Mckeever turned in under Eamon Coleman and feeling that there were all star nominations on the way, at least, if some of them kept to that level.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on April 29, 2011, 11:15:54 AM
Thankfully sense has prevailed.

ACFL Division 2
Team 1 Team 2 Venue Date Time Referee Comment
Killinkere  Crosserlough  Mullahoran 30/04/2011 19:00 Packie Smith   
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on April 29, 2011, 01:17:34 PM
Quote from: anglocelt39 on April 26, 2011, 12:16:07 PM
Not a bad few weeks so. As well as the Under 21's was quite happy we kept our place in what was always going to be a tough enough Division 3. In fact a win against Limerick would have had us up to Division 2 I think. You'd like to think the Under 21's will give a bit of a bounce to the senior panel and we can go into the first round with a bit of hope. Would be nice to see a few games won through the qualifiers at least.

Next year I'd like to think we would see about a dozen lads from last years and this years under 21 panels involved and see a few messers pensioned off once and for all. Good to see Terry Hyland having continued success and you'd hope his involvement in the senior panel is cemented for a few years at any rate. Make a change from all the chopping, changing, outside managers etc. etc.

Specific issue I'd be interested in getting the opinion of a few of the lads that are playing ball at the minute. We have any number of lads in their mid-20's (Lyng, Gaynor, Pierson, McKeever, Hannon) who burst on the inter county scene aged 19 or so. Whether through injury, poor management or other matters they haven't all realised their potential, maybe they were thrown in too soon for their own good. If some of those lads could be got to buy into the sort of team/work ethic that the under 21's seem to have they could be a great addition to have around the senior panel over the next two to three years. The question is whether it's gone a bit too late for some of the lads to re-invent themselves. Any opinions?

I still think of some of the championship performances Lyng, Gaynor and Mckeever turned in under Eamon Coleman and feeling that there were all star nominations on the way, at least, if some of them kept to that level.

Good question. The last thing we want to happen is a bunch of this U-21 panel thrown in at Senior level without sufficient support around them from more Senior players. As mentioned earlier, the 1996 crew were probably left a little stranded after 1997 or 98.
These boys will have to be given time to adjust. I have no doubt we have some Senior players who can help bring them through. Its not that hard to buy into an overall team/ work ethic if the Management have it drilled into every single player. If 13 or 14 lads are working their socks off with or without the ball, it is very easy to spot a lad who is standing up.
2005 seems only like yesterday to me but probably an eternity to others. That year we were a block of a ball away from being U-21 Ulster Champions. Ambrose Rodgers and Down went on to be beaten by Galway in the AI final that year and Down with some of that team intact have gone on to bigger and better things at Senior level.
That U-21 Cavan team included Dermot Sheridan, Padraig Reilly, Mark Mc Keever, Sean Johnston, Mickey Lyng, Anthony Gaynor. All lads who are still involved with our Seniors. Work and Tackle were buzzwords with that U-21 team under Coleman and McElkannon and I don't see any reason why they can't become buzzwords again.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on April 29, 2011, 02:22:57 PM
Everyone go out and enjoy the day.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: PhilsJemmysField on April 29, 2011, 02:43:49 PM
Please Please Please God give us a win. Think we can do it but hope we get that bounce of the ball as well
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on May 01, 2011, 07:12:42 PM
Very disappointing lads,
We were cleaned out of it in the middle,although Gearoid did play some football aswell.
Marc Leddy was off after 15 minutes,Paddy King his replacement was off after 50 minutes for Niall McKiernan.
Turlough Mooney and Packie Leddy were ineffectual out around this area aswell. The backs with the exception of Barkey and Minagh were roasted,Darragh Tighe obviously carried an injury into the game and struggled badly before being replaced.
I though Niall Smith and Niall Murray played well and tried very hard.
Barry Reily was non-existant once again.
Jack Brady was starved of posession.
Niall McDermott competed well,but his lack of a right foot showed a number of times,when the defender gave him an oppertunity to come in on his right,but he continued down a blind alley.
All in all though, a very good campaign and we would have taken an All Ireland final appearance before the championship started.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on May 01, 2011, 07:54:52 PM
Beaten by a better team.  No shame in that.

Maybe if we'd played with the wind in the first half it might have been different and again it shows that goals win matches. 

Well done to all involved and Cavan Abu.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: CavanCola on May 01, 2011, 09:05:33 PM
I agree with you bhm on midfield. Tatics wise do people think it was a good idea to adjust the setup of the team today from the throw in to mark certain Galway players. Corner back to midfield and centre back to cornerback etc.. It's one approach but does it show a lack of confidence in a teams own ability going into a game that radical changes are required from the start based on the opposition? If you have a good team and system thats working well then why not go into a game with your system and style of play and let the opposition worry about it. If it isnt working then go to plan B. To often these days it seems like management dissect videos of the opposition and feel they need to make wholesale positional changes based on these reviews without having belief in their regular starting 15 setup.

Goals killed us in the end. For the first goal one of the umpires momentarily raised an arm during the tennis match infront of the Cavan goal.. Looked like he was going to signal a wide or a 45. The ball was stuck in the net and the goal stood. Too often umpires are very indecisive during these big matchs. They should stick to there guns when they make a decision. 

We were beaten by the better team today. Well done to Galway.

Fair play to these bunch of lads and there loyalty to Cavan football. Hope all of these guys will have jobs and be able to stick around and be involved in cavan if they so wish.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on May 01, 2011, 09:19:57 PM
Quote from: CavanCola on May 01, 2011, 09:05:33 PM
I agree with you bhm on midfield. Tatics wise do people think it was a good idea to adjust the setup of the team today from the throw in to mark certain Galway players. Corner back to midfield and centre back to cornerback etc.. It's one approach but does it show a lack of confidence in a teams own ability going into a game that radical changes are required from the start based on the opposition? If you have a good team and system thats working well then why not go into a game with your system and style of play and let the opposition worry about it. If it isnt working then go to plan B. To often these days it seems like management dissect videos of the opposition and feel they need to make wholesale positional changes based on these reviews without having belief in their regular starting 15 setup.

Goals killed us in the end. For the first goal one of the umpires momentarily raised an arm during the tennis match infront of the Cavan goal.. Looked like he was going to signal a wide or a 45. The ball was stuck in the net and the goal stood. Too often umpires are very indecisive during these big matchs. They should stick to there guns when they make a decision.

We were beaten by the better team today. Well done to Galway.

Fair play to these bunch of lads and there loyalty to Cavan football. Hope all of these guys will have jobs and be able to stick around and be involved in cavan if they so wish.

Don't know if you were at any of the other games but Leddy has been named a 2 every game and has played around the middle with a view to stopping influential players on the opposition team. Flanagan went to corner back when Tighe went off. I don't think tactics were to blame, the best team just won. We have to accept that and work harder next time.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on May 01, 2011, 09:31:51 PM
I dont know with regards to tactics what more Hyland/Forde and co could have done CC.
In fairness they tried about 5 lads around the centre field area,and none of them worked out,they made multiple switches and substitutions early on,but all to no avail.
Danny Cummins and Michael Boyle were too fast and athletic for most of our backs, today Fergal Flanagan was isolated on Cummins far too often in the second half as we chased the game,and to be fair to him,he done aswell as anyone could, defending nearly the whole half of the field 1 on 1,but he still got roasted at times,as Cummins is a livewire.
Damien Barkey on Cummins and Fergal Flanagan on the strong-running Boyle may have worked better,but then you have Mark Hehir who was outstanding and pulled the strings at centre forward.
This Galway team just had too many options for us.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on May 02, 2011, 08:59:55 AM
The seniors played down at the official re-opening of Packie Devlin Park in Killeshandra. The Cavan team that started where.

J Reilly
McEnroe
Carroll
O Dowd
Jordan
Shieridan
D Reilly
McCutcheon
Corr
Fannin
Cullivan
Brennan
Mackey
Keating
Johnstone

Subs that came on (there were a lot so might have missed a few) were Lyng, McCormak (ballyhaise), Cillian O Reilly and Thomais Reilly (both Killeshandra), Cahill, Niall Reilly (Ballinagh), Bud Fitzpatrick, Anton Reilly

Down won 4-11 to 4-9 but Cavan were 3 pts up at half time before both teams started making loads of subs and the game got a bit messy which corresponded with Down getting on top.

Impressive for Cavan were Carroll at FB who was on a very big man and did well. McEnroe was good too marking lively laverty. Keating was good at times but mostly when he moved out to the half forward line. Johnstone did very well scoring 2-4 I think. Corr and McCutheon worked hard but didn't win a lot of primary ball. I'm getting concerned about Cullivan, for such a talented player his work rate was terrible and he looks to have lost confidence and lost mobility (too much of the weights?)

Cavan playing Longford in Gowna today in another pitch opening, not sure of the time.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on May 02, 2011, 01:08:49 PM
Yesterday was hard to watch. Galway were a much, much better side and Cavan failed to perform in too many sectors of the field. The Galway lads at midfield fielded ball at their ease, knocked it down to their players with pinpoint accuracy and robbed every fumbled attempt at a catch by Cavan.. Gearoid looked a shadow of the player that lorded the Ulster Final. Given the amount of ball he's played in the past year I think he could be approaching burnout point. The management should have changed the kickouts but in truth it would have made little difference to the outcome. The scary thing was that Galway cut through our defence so much had they needed to they could have got a lot more goals.

Positives for Cavan on the day were Oisin Minagh who fought bravely against the tide for the hour, Niall Smith who apart from kicking a few into the goalie's hands caused lots of problems with his runs and movement. Niall McDermott was well marshalled but did cause problems in patches and will be a good option for the seniors.

Credit to the whole team for what they have given us this year and for getting us a day in Croker, great to see so much blue in Croker. All Ireland finalists is a good achievement in itself. Now let's build on this success and follow it up with the same effort from subsequent teams!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on May 02, 2011, 02:54:30 PM
Would agree with most of what Westside has had to say. Feel very sorry for a few lads that seemed to let the day pass them by, terribly disappointing after all the effort that was put in. Put it this way, if Tyrone had lined out against Galway yesterday they would not have lost by such a score, I believe. So a bit of freezing on the big day may have kicked in.

I had an interesting chat afterwards with a lad who has been to the last few games. His take on things was that we were well and truly cleaned out at midfield by a Wexford team that kicked a pile of wides in the Semi final and maybe this was an area of possible weakness that was overlooked, from what I understand we dominated Tyrone in the middle three nights previously and had them resorting to short kickouts etc. etc. Anyway thanks to everybody involved in the panel for putting a bit of pride back in the county jersey. Only a small step in the overall scheme of things but a start.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on May 02, 2011, 03:23:27 PM
Quote from: anglocelt39 on May 02, 2011, 02:54:30 PM
Would agree with most of what Westside has had to say. Feel very sorry for a few lads that seemed to let the day pass them by, terribly disappointing after all the effort that was put in. Put it this way, if Tyrone had lined out against Galway yesterday they would not have lost by such a score, I believe. So a bit of freezing on the big day may have kicked in.

I had an interesting chat afterwards with a lad who has been to the last few games. His take on things was that we were well and truly cleaned out at midfield by a Wexford team that kicked a pile of wides in the Semi final and maybe this was an area of possible weakness that was overlooked, from what I understand we dominated Tyrone in the middle three nights previously and had them resorting to short kickouts etc. etc. Anyway thanks to everybody involved in the panel for putting a bit of pride back in the county jersey. Only a small step in the overall scheme of things but a start.

You're correct AC
We did get cleaned at midfield during extended periods of the semi final against Wexford. I like many others put that down to tired legs after the Tyrone match on the wednesday.Obviously judging by yesterday,there was more to it than that.
Marc Leddy just didnt have the physique to play midfield against those Galway duo,it would be unfair to criticise him too much,as he was sacrificed early,and 5/6 could have gone before him.
I know we have a few Lacken men on board,so heres a question with regards Niall McKiernan,he was one of the most impressive midfielders in last years senior championship by all accounts,yet got very little game-time during this campaign.
Has he been bothered by injuries???
Paddy King/Turlough Mooney etc are going to be very good players at senior level,but personally i had very high hopes in McKiernan filling the void left by Givney last year.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on May 02, 2011, 04:08:43 PM
BH man I had a conversation with a man before the game yesterday who said a lot of people involved with the panel were at a loss as to why Niall McKiernan isn't getting a starting place.. I seem to remember before a ball was kicked everyone was certain it would be two McKiernan's at midfield. But Leddy and G did the job in Ulster so the management had to stick with them.. I assume Niall McK is underage next year yes??

Gearoid has met quality midfielders in the last two games and has not been able to compete to win primary posession, when it comes to fielding ball he is some distance behind Givney. Perhaps come championship time he would be better utilised at half forward? Or am I reading too much into the last two games...? (Not putting the boot in by the way I think he is a fantastic player and deserves huge credit for his performances this year)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on May 02, 2011, 04:30:21 PM
Quote from: Westside on May 02, 2011, 04:08:43 PM
BH man I had a conversation with a man before the game yesterday who said a lot of people involved with the panel were at a loss as to why Niall McKiernan isn't getting a starting place.. I seem to remember before a ball was kicked everyone was certain it would be two McKiernan's at midfield. But Leddy and G did the job in Ulster so the management had to stick with them.. I assume Niall McK is underage next year yes??

Gearoid has met quality midfielders in the last two games and has not been able to compete to win primary posession, when it comes to fielding ball he is some distance behind Givney. Perhaps come championship time he would be better utilised at half forward? Or am I reading too much into the last two games...? (Not putting the boot in by the way I think he is a fantastic player and deserves huge credit for his performances this year)

I see your point westside
To be fair to Gearoid,Cavan were heaping even more pressure on him,with the placing of Marc Leddy beside him with the opposition being two tall 6'3 plus high fielding Galway men,it meant McKiernan had little support in the aerial exchanges,and it all fell down to him. For the seniors he will have Givney beside him,who will be the main man,and it may give McKiernan more scope to play his own game.
I cant remember Gearoid getting outfielded much yesterday, and whilst he didnt catch many clean(i counted only the one),the damage at centrefield was done away from him and by our half forward and half back lines inability to win breaks.
You are correct however ,he would be a very good option at wing forward,but i dont think we can afford him there.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: LaurelEye on May 02, 2011, 08:35:45 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on May 02, 2011, 08:59:55 AMCavan playing Longford in Gowna today in another pitch opening, not sure of the time.

Match in ScraGowna ended up a one-point win for Longford, 2-9 to 3-5; we gifted yis two goals in the last 10 minutes or so. At half-time yis were up 1-4 to 1-3 with the wind. We had an experimental enough side out.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on May 02, 2011, 08:41:02 PM
Niall Mc kiernan missed a few trainings at the start of the season around the hastings cup, and never really got much of a look in since. He can be lazy at times towards training and that probaly cost him a place on the team. He was excellecnt with lacken last year and is a much better footballer than Mark Leddy. He is eligble again next year along with barry reilly, turloch mooney, jack brady, fergal flanagan,mickey brady,packie leddy, alan o meara. How come Maloney derham wasnt involved this year? he was very good with the u21s last year..
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: North Longford on May 02, 2011, 08:49:27 PM
Jeepers. I left at 2-09 to 1-05 with less than 10 minutes to go, happy in the knowledge of another great victory over our near neighbours. I must have missed the only bit of excitement there was!!!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dougal on May 03, 2011, 01:56:12 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on May 02, 2011, 08:41:02 PM
Niall Mc kiernan missed a few trainings at the start of the season around the hastings cup, and never really got much of a look in since. He can be lazy at times towards training and that probaly cost him a place on the team. He was excellecnt with lacken last year and is a much better footballer than Mark Leddy. He is eligble again next year along with barry reilly, turloch mooney, jack brady, fergal flanagan,mickey brady,packie leddy, alan o meara. How come Maloney derham wasnt involved this year? he was very good with the u21s last year..

o meara said in the program that by the time niall was strapped up training was nearly over,so it would seem he is struggling with injuries.

i was fairly sure mickey brady and o meara were over age next year?but i think mickey might have been on that good mullahoran team of 09.i cant remember who was in goals for the county minors in 09 but i didnt think it was o meara.you can add in paddy king,kevin and shane tierney and a couple of others.
i had kind of forgotten about Maloney derham,a very good all round player,surprised he wasnt in the 24 man panel.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on May 03, 2011, 02:21:07 PM
Last night was a lovely evening for a game.  So I dandered along.  Everything you would want a picture postcard GAA match to be.  Sunny weather, shirtsleeves, children playing not caring about the game.  The game was exciting too.  A Carlsberg moment really.

Ballinagh /Cornafean   0-13   1-10   Denn    Stradone   Division 2 League Final

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Ollie on May 03, 2011, 06:17:17 PM
Quote from: Dougal on May 03, 2011, 01:56:12 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on May 02, 2011, 08:41:02 PM
Niall Mc kiernan missed a few trainings at the start of the season around the hastings cup, and never really got much of a look in since. He can be lazy at times towards training and that probaly cost him a place on the team. He was excellecnt with lacken last year and is a much better footballer than Mark Leddy. He is eligble again next year along with barry reilly, turloch mooney, jack brady, fergal flanagan,mickey brady,packie leddy, alan o meara. How come Maloney derham wasnt involved this year? he was very good with the u21s last year..

o meara said in the program that by the time niall was strapped up training was nearly over,so it would seem he is struggling with injuries.

i was fairly sure mickey brady and o meara were over age next year?but i think mickey might have been on that good mullahoran team of 09.i cant remember who was in goals for the county minors in 09 but i didnt think it was o meara.you can add in paddy king,kevin and shane tierney and a couple of others.
i had kind of forgotten about Maloney derham,a very good all round player,surprised he wasnt in the 24 man panel.

Maloney Derham left the panel early on in the year due to an increase in college work. I don't think O'Mara is underage next year. their profiles are here. http://cavangaa.ie/Meet-the-U-21-s.html
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Swadman on May 03, 2011, 07:15:10 PM
Owen Roe McGovern the last surviving member of the 1947 All Ireland team passed away peacefully in New York, Monday 2/5/2011

Ar Dheis Dé go raibh a h-anam dílis

See  www.swanlinbar-gfc.com   or Hogan stand
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on May 03, 2011, 07:45:33 PM
Quote from: Swadman on May 03, 2011, 07:15:10 PM
Owen Roe McGovern the last surviving member of the 1947 All Ireland team passed away peacefully in New York, Monday 2/5/2011

Ar Dheis Dé go raibh a h-anam dílis

See  www.swanlinbar-gfc.com   or Hogan stand

Another sad passing and another link lost with a golden age. RIP.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4sam on May 06, 2011, 01:58:06 PM
Does anyone have the full list of fixtures for this weekend?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: PhilsJemmysField on May 06, 2011, 04:55:56 PM
http://cavangaa.ie/Fixtures-&-Results.html

Also the Arva website as well is good for fixtures

Sad to see Owen Roe pass away 
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4sam on May 06, 2011, 06:00:46 PM
Cheers for that, didn't realise we actually had a website that was regularly updated now!! The old 1 was some pice of crap!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on May 07, 2011, 03:37:24 AM
Went to Bawn this evening for the Templeport Mountnugent game. Cracker of a match would you believe! You sometimes forget just how good Givney is, I know it's junior football but by God the lad has some pair of hands on him, caught everything that came his way including more than a few that he had no right to be winning. And not a bad boot either, won the game for Mountnugent. When you compare his impact at Junior to our previous midfielder from the Bridge at the same level, well...

McManus scored an absolute cracker of a goal at the end for TP, he was fouled running through in the last few minutes, got up quickly and just rifled it from 20 odd yards into the top corner, fantastic shot. An unorthodox looking player but extremely effective.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on May 07, 2011, 07:07:30 PM
Minor League Division 2
Team 1 Score Score Team 2 Venue Comment   
Ballinagh /Cornafean 1-10 0-16 Denn  Lavey Division 2 League Final Replay 

A good win but the wind spoilled it as we won because we used the wind better and took our scores.

Well done to both sides for making it an exciting contest.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Breffni_Yank on May 07, 2011, 07:22:33 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JfZF7xzoyuM

Came across this on youtube if anyone wants to watch and weep!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on May 07, 2011, 09:35:54 PM
Quote from: Breffni_Yank on May 07, 2011, 07:22:33 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JfZF7xzoyuM

Came across this on youtube if anyone wants to watch and weep!

Too soon I think..  :'(
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on May 07, 2011, 10:08:32 PM
Quote from: Denn Forever on May 07, 2011, 07:07:30 PM
Minor League Division 2
Team 1 Score Score Team 2 Venue Comment   
Ballinagh /Cornafean 1-10 0-16 Denn  Lavey Division 2 League Final Replay 

A good win but the wind spoilled it as we won because we used the wind better and took our scores.

Well done to both sides for making it an exciting contest.

Well done to Denn. I seen both teams this year and TBH I expected Ballinagh/Cornafean to win it. I heard that Dean Hyland made a big difference.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on May 08, 2011, 11:41:19 PM
It was a good performance by all the forwards and midfield.  Young McGivney played well and Ben Conaty was brilliant in the drawn game and looked very comfortable on the ball on Saturday.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: PhilsJemmysField on May 09, 2011, 12:40:16 PM
Boo

Did that ever  young Knockbride swallow Larry Reilly make his annual return at the weekend
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on May 09, 2011, 02:22:03 PM
Quote from: PhilsJemmysField on May 09, 2011, 12:40:16 PM
Boo

Did that ever  young Knockbride swallow Larry Reilly make his annual return at the weekend

Indeed he did. Scored 1-7 too, with 4 or 5 from play. He won and scored a dubious penalty but great performance from him. He looked like he was going to win it for them all on his own at one stage. He should stick to the boxing training methinks.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Ollie on May 09, 2011, 03:04:42 PM
Just thought I'd bring this to everyone's attention.

http://cadburygaau21.com/heroes-of-the-future

Jack Brady got my vote. I felt he was the most consistently good player in all of the games during the campaign. He reminds me of Mickey Graham when he was emerging on the senior team. I think Brady has the potential to be a top forward in Ulster in the coming years.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dougal on May 09, 2011, 09:43:52 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on May 09, 2011, 12:50:35 PM
Ballinagh-Cavan gaels must have been a great game.. 1-17 is a very good scores and the gaels still lost.. Rare do they concede 5 goals in a game, ballinagh look like the team to stop this year, scoring high in all there games so far.. Lacken beat killeshandra by 4 pts, declan mckiernan played very well for them at ff..

it was 2-17.think the half time score was 1-06 to 2-07,johnston must have scored 7 or 8 in the second half alone,and got a few nice ones from out round the 45 (they were aided a lot by the wind though).hopefully paddy power dont cop on to ballinagh,they were 66/1 for the championship last year and are in almost the exact same group this year.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on May 09, 2011, 10:23:18 PM
I believe Mr gaynor was sent off again.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dougal on May 09, 2011, 10:40:55 PM
ye,he wasnt happy about walsh getting a penalty (he went down very very easy).was lucky not to be given a card for giving out to the ref after it.ball was kicked out after the penalty and gaynor just backed into his man and took him out of it,he was just looking to get sent off.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on May 10, 2011, 04:10:08 PM
Plan your holidays.

Championship fixtures - rounds 1 and 2
10 May 2011


HOTEL KILMORE SENIOR CHAMPIONSHIP FIRST ROUND
Fixture: Venue: Date: Time:
Lacken v Cavan Gaels Kingspan Breffni Park Friday, 22nd July 2011 8pm
Ramor Utd v Ballinagh St Matthews Park, Crosskeys Saturday, 23rd July 2011 7.30pm
Cuchulainns v Drumalee Ramor United Park, Virginia Friday, 22nd July 2011 8pm
Killygarry v Denn Lavey GAA Grounds, New Inns Sunday, 24th July 2011 2pm
Castlerahan v Gowna Kingspan Breffni Park Saturday, 23rd July 2011 8pm
Belturbet v Redhills O'Connell Park, Drumlane Sunday, 24th July 2011 2pm
Mullahoran v Kingscourt Kingspan Breffni Park Sunday, 24th July 2011 8pm



HOTEL KILMORE INTERMEDIATE CHAMPIONSHIP FIRST ROUND
Fixture: Venue: Date: Time:
Cootehill v Knockbride St. Anne's Park, Bailieboro Sunday, 24th July 2011 2pm
Bailieborough v Drung Hugh O'Reilly Memorial Park, Cootehill Friday, 22nd July 2011 8pm
Killeshandra v Killinkere Athletic Grounds, Crubany Saturday, 23rd July 2011 7.30pm
Butlersbridge v Swanlinbar St Aidan's Park, Templeport Friday, 22nd July 2011 8pm
Ballyhaise v Drumlane Kingspan Breffni Park Saturday, 23rd July 2011 6.30pm
Cavan Gaels v Drumgoon PJ Duke Park, Stradone Sunday, 24th July 2011 2pm
Crosserlough v Ballymachugh Ballinagh GAA Grounds, Ballinagh Sunday, 24th July 2011 2pm
Kill v Laragh Utd St Felim's Park, Drumalee Saturday, 23rd July 2011 7.30pm

HOTEL KILMORE JUNIOR CHAMPIONSHIP FIRST ROUND
Fixture: Venue: Date: Time:
Ballyconnell First Ulsters v Shercock Kingspan Breffni Park Sunday, 24th July 2011 6.30pm
Shannon Gaels v Mountnugent Packie Delvin Park, Killeshandra Sunday, 24th July 2011 2pm
Munterconnacht v Corlough Paric Namh Fionnan, Cornafean Saturday, 23rd July 2011 6.30pm
Templeport v Cornafean First Ulsters Park, Ballyconnell Sunday, 24th July 2011 2pm



HOTEL KILMORE SENIOR CHAMPIONSHIP SECOND ROUND
Fixture: Venue: Date: Time:
Lacken v Ramor Utd Kingspan Breffni Park Saturday, 30th July 2011 8pm
Cavan Gaels v Ballinagh Kingspan Breffni Park Sunday, 31st July 2011 7.30pm
Cuchulainns v Killygarry Lavey GAA Grounds, New Inns Sunday, 31st July 2011 2pm
Drumalee v Denn Athletic Grounds, Crubany Saturday, 30th July 2011 7.30pm
Castlerahan v Belturbet Kingspan Breffni Park Friday, 29th July 2011 8pm
Gowna v Redhills Packie Delvin Park, Killeshandra Sunday, 31st July 2011 2pm
Mullahoran v Lavey Dr Plunkett Memorial Park, Kilnaleck Friday, 29 July 2011 8pm

HOTEL KILMORE INTERMEDIATE CHAMPIONSHIP SECOND ROUND
Fixture: Venue: Date: Time:
Cootehill v Bailieborough O Raghallaigh Park, Kingscourt Thursday, 28th July 2011 8pm
Knockbride v Drung Hugh O'Reilly Memorial Park, Cootehill Sunday, 31st July 2011 2pm
Killeshandra v Butlersbridge St Aidan's Park, Templeport Saturday, 30th July 2011 7.30pm
Killinkere v Swanlinbar O'Connell Park, Drumlane Sunday, 31st July 2011 2pm
Ballyhaise v Cavan Gaels St Felim's Park, Drumalee Friday, 29th July 2011 8pm
Drumlane v Drumgoon Kingspan Breffni Park Saturday, 30th July 2011 6.30pm
Crosserlough v Kill PJ Duke Park, Stradone Sunday, 31st July 2011 2pm
Ballymachugh v Laragh Utd St Matthews Park, Crosskeys Thursday, 28th July 2011 8pm

HOTEL KILMORE JUNIOR CHAMPIONSHIP SECOND ROUND
Fixture: Venue: Date: Time:
Ballyconnell First Ulsters v Shannon Gaels St Mary's Park, Swanlinbar Saturday, 30th July 2011 7.30pm
Shercock v Mountnugent St. Anne's Park, Bailieboro Sunday, 31st July 2011 2pm
Munterconnacht v Maghera Ramor United Park, Virginia Sunday, 31st July 2011 7.30pm
Templeport v Arva Corlough GAA Grounds, Corlough Sunday, 31st July 2011 2pm



Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Breffni_Yank on May 12, 2011, 01:03:41 PM
Cavan joint-managers Terry Hyland and Val Andrews have included 10 of the U21 side that recently contested the All-Ireland final in their senior championship squad.

Gearoid McKiernan, Alan O'Mara, Niall Murray, Michael Brady, Niall McDermott, Fergal Flanagan, Oisin Moynagh, Damien Barkey, Barry Reilly and Niall McKiernan have been named in a new-look squad which contains only 13 survivors from last year's championship panel.

We want to try and keep developing them," Hyland said of the U21s in the squad.

"I have said on many occasions that they will not learn anything at home. While they might not feature that much when it comes to championship time, at least they are still in the learning process. They are getting grounded in training and other different things."

Injury has robbed Cavan of the services of Martin Reilly (cruciate ligament), Nicholas Walsh (back) and Gerald Pierson (knee) for the campaign ahead.

The squad in full is: James Reilly, Alan O'Mara, Damien Reilly, Dane O'Dowd, Dermot Sheridan, Mark McKeever, Martin Cahill, Stephen Jordan, Thomas Corr, John McCutcheon, Patrick Carroll, James McEnroe, Brendan Fitzpatrick, Cian Mackey, Keith Fannin, Michael Brennan, Ray Cullivan, Ronan Flanagan, Gareth Smith, Seanie Johnston, Eugene Keating, David Givney, Michael Lyng, Niall Murray, Gearoid McKiernan, Michael Brady, Niall McDermott, Fergal Flanagan, Oisin Moynagh, Damien Barkey, Barry Reilly and Niall McKiernan.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on May 12, 2011, 02:13:29 PM
Gaynor gone from the list too. Also, if Pearson is injured how come he is playing with Gowna?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BigMac on May 12, 2011, 02:21:03 PM
No Podge either. Bit surprised at that because he played most of the league games, and played fairly well by all accounts. Bit surprised at Niall McKiernan's inclusion as he wasn't a starter for the U-21's. Gaynor gone too, but he was sent off AGAIN at the weekend and I presume the management have decided he isn't disciplined enough as I'm sure ability isn't a problem.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on May 12, 2011, 02:41:18 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on May 12, 2011, 02:13:29 PM
Gaynor gone from the list too. Also, if Pearson is injured how come he is playing with Gowna?

Gaynor is injured and think Pierson is only back from injury. Its only a list of names. Players can be added to it.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dougal on May 12, 2011, 03:00:17 PM
podge not being on it is the biggest surprise,after all the game time he got so far.15 players from this years and last years u21s,thats a massive number of young players.

booj,you involved with the cavan juniors this year?whos on the panel and is terry over them again this year?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Blue06 on May 12, 2011, 03:42:24 PM
According to the Celt report Podge went off injured in the weekend game against the Gaels.

Also the Juniors are due to play Longford on May 25 in the first round.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: club_man on May 12, 2011, 03:49:43 PM
Podge went off after 5mins of the gaels game with a knee problem. I assume he will be back on the panel when it's cleared up. As pointed out a very young panel but a clearout was needed.

Interesting to see how the u21's step up in Ulster senior championship
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on May 12, 2011, 03:50:42 PM
Thought Alan Clarke would have made the panel, he didn't play much in the league but was solid last year..blow to see pierson out injured.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Breffni_Yank on May 12, 2011, 04:43:11 PM
As far as I know Podge needs surgery on an injury and Clarke left the panel by his own accord.

Very hard to pick a starting team from that panel. I think it will be something like this.

James
Minnagh Corr O'Dowd
McKeever McCutcheon Damien Reilly
McKiernan Givney
Flanagan Smith Murray
McDermott Keating Johnston

I think a few of the u21's in there won't see any action at all. O'Mara will struggle to dislodge Miller and the likes of Mickey Brady, Flanagan and Niall McKiernan will surely just be there to pick up experience for the u21's next year.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on May 12, 2011, 07:19:04 PM
Carroll from ballinagh did well at fb against down in the challenge a few weeks back and he is not on that list either
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Breffni_Yank on May 12, 2011, 08:01:30 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on May 12, 2011, 07:19:04 PM
Carroll from ballinagh did well at fb against down in the challenge a few weeks back and he is not on that list either

Yes he is.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on May 12, 2011, 08:13:44 PM
Quote from: Breffni_Yank on May 12, 2011, 08:01:30 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on May 12, 2011, 07:19:04 PM
Carroll from ballinagh did well at fb against down in the challenge a few weeks back and he is not on that list either

Yes he is.

Oops
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tierworker blue on May 13, 2011, 04:58:02 PM
Give the lads an auld stroke...
http://www.cadburygaau21.com/heroes-of-the-future/place-vote
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on May 14, 2011, 12:12:44 AM
Quote from: Dougal on May 12, 2011, 03:00:17 PM
podge not being on it is the biggest surprise,after all the game time he got so far.15 players from this years and last years u21s,thats a massive number of young players.

booj,you involved with the cavan juniors this year?whos on the panel and is terry over them again this year?

Haven't heard a thing. Don't know who's over it. Probably Terry. Hopefully they can go one step further than last year.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: club_man on May 14, 2011, 10:03:06 PM
Any results from todays games?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on May 14, 2011, 11:48:28 PM
Quote from: club_man on May 14, 2011, 10:03:06 PM
Any results from todays games?

Use this site and put it in your favourites.

http://www.arvaghgfc.com/fixtures.html
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dougal on May 15, 2011, 04:21:54 AM
some shock results in div 1 today.ballyhaise and the gaels drawing,kingscourt losing to redhills,mullahoran losing to gowna.looking forward to ballinagh cuchulians tomorrow,if ballinagh win they look like they mean business.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanforever on May 15, 2011, 06:11:09 PM
the shocks still continuing with cuchullains beating the nagh. very open this year. also whats going on with the gaels or is it the fact that kingscourt beating them last year has giving all the other teams the sense that they can be beaten
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on May 15, 2011, 08:37:25 PM
Well from Donegal's performance today it looks like we're in for a real war of attrition on June 12th.. Terry and Co know how to play against Donegal's style of play but can our defence hold Murphy and Molloy? It's going to be a very very tough game but I can't see why we shouldn't be there or there abouts.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on May 15, 2011, 10:25:57 PM
It was some muck to watch that game. Antrim were quite successful at stopping donegals forwards so we should take positives from that. A fit givney and gearoid mckiernan could give us an edge in the middle. But where we will struggle is the sheer strength they have around the field. Mad they didnt put 1 high ball on Murphy - I'd like to see that happen on breffni. We have a chance but donegal have to be favourites.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Swadman on May 16, 2011, 01:41:16 PM
Quote from: Westside on May 15, 2011, 08:37:25 PM
Well from Donegal's performance today it looks like we're in for a real war of attrition on June 12th.. Terry and Co know how to play against Donegal's style of play but can our defence hold Murphy and Molloy? It's going to be a very very tough game but I can't see why we shouldn't be there or there abouts.
Hope it will be a dryer and warmer day on 12th June and therefore a better game. As a Cavanman I would not be happy to part with €27 to see more of that sh*te. Spillane gave it some slating.

Bo, what happened yis v Shannon Gaels? Had ye Hillarious Gomez in goal?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Swadman on May 16, 2011, 01:43:03 PM
PS

Well done to the Minor Hurlers on a great win v Monaghan
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on May 16, 2011, 07:03:04 PM
Quote from: Swadman on May 16, 2011, 01:43:03 PM
PS

Well done to the Minor Hurlers on a great win v Monaghan

Saw that.  Well done but how long will it be before they are drafted to the senior team?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on May 16, 2011, 07:52:07 PM
Quote from: Swadman on May 16, 2011, 01:41:16 PM
Quote from: Westside on May 15, 2011, 08:37:25 PM
Well from Donegal's performance today it looks like we're in for a real war of attrition on June 12th.. Terry and Co know how to play against Donegal's style of play but can our defence hold Murphy and Molloy? It's going to be a very very tough game but I can't see why we shouldn't be there or there abouts.
Hope it will be a dryer and warmer day on 12th June and therefore a better game. As a Cavanman I would not be happy to part with €27 to see more of that sh*te. Spillane gave it some slating.

Bo, what happened yis v Shannon Gaels? Had ye Hillarious Gomez in goal?

We have a new goalkeeper in this year,Dean Fay, he was involved with the County U-21s last year, he's still finding his feet plus we were missing our Full-Back which didnt help matters. To kick 18 points and lose is a mortal sin. Enda McHugh had an excellent game for them. Thats our promotion hopes probably gone.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: PhilsJemmysField on May 17, 2011, 03:07:57 PM
Do not give up hope just yet Boo. Cannot see Cootehill not loosing a couple of games. Drumgoon have lost big Mc from the middle and the centre half back and wing half , In the last week. Larry scored 2 - 6 till they moved Hannon onto him at the weekend. So now very beatable. Denn are now probably over the wobble but you can still catch them. Could see urselves and Denn making it yet. Easily the better sides I have saw so far in Div2. What is going on in BBoro they may need to pull the socks up. Here is the table may not look the part but hell here goes


Team                Played   Won   Lost   Drawn   Points For   Points Against   Points Diff   Points
Drumgoon     6   4   0   2        86   71   15   10
Denn           6   4   2   0   86   63   23   8
Cootehill           4   3   0   1   69   37   32   7
Crosserlough    5   3   2   0   74   54   20   6
Killinkere           6   3   3   0   65   76   -11   6
Drumalee           5   2   2   1   74   66   8   5
Cavan Gaels    4   2   1   1   52   47   5   5
Shercock           6   2   3   1   66   67   -1   5
Drung           5   2   2   1   56   67   -11   5
Swanlinbar    4   2   2   0   48   53   -5   4
Kill                   5   1   2   2   72   80   -8   4
Shannon Gaels    5   2   3   0   69   86   -17   4
Butlersbridge    3   1   1   1   25   25   0   3
Cornafean      5   1   4   0   46   54   -8   2
Knockbride    5   1   4   0   54   74   -20   2
Bailieboro           4   1   3   0   37   59   -22   2


Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Swadman on May 17, 2011, 08:31:24 PM
I agree with P.J.F. This division is still wide open. I predict more surprises ahead but at this early stage it could be between Drumgoon, Denn, Cootehill, and Drumalee and which of them make the least mistakes from here in. Cavan Gaels are the joker in the pack again. You could be unlucky to play them when they have a "strong" team out and then your rivals meet them when they are "depleted"


 
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up-again on May 18, 2011, 12:31:43 PM
Quote from: Swadman on May 17, 2011, 08:31:24 PM
I agree with P.J.F. This division is still wide open. I predict more surprises ahead but at this early stage it could be between Drumgoon, Denn, Cootehill, and Drumalee and which of them make the least mistakes from here in. Cavan Gaels are the joker in the pack again. You could be unlucky to play them when they have a "strong" team out and then your rivals meet them when they are "depleted"




The Division is wide open this year and i would say its going to be an interesting campaign.

The Gaels situation in Division Two is a joke and really needs to be looked at.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Breffni_Yank on May 18, 2011, 02:28:13 PM
We'd be happy enough with how we are getting so far in Division Two, a little bit more consistency and we might me able to challenge the Champions League places  ;D

Heard today the Cavan juniors are playing next Wed against Longford. I imagine that is where most of our 21's that were called up to the senior team will be used.

Is Terry and Val managing it?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on May 18, 2011, 03:30:36 PM
Saw this in Hoganstand topics but no mention of the Junior game in the Cavan Hoganstand page.  Suppose I'll have to get the Celt.

Louth v Cavan challenge game.

Cavan will play Louth on Sunday next 22nd May @4:00pm

Venue: St.Mochtas GFC Louth village.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: PhilsJemmysField on May 19, 2011, 10:06:43 AM
We were trying to move a game to next Wednesday night and apparently were not allowed because of Cavan Juniors playing
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Swadman on May 19, 2011, 04:06:13 PM
Our Thursday 26th game v Drung is off too
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on May 19, 2011, 06:47:33 PM
Quote from: Breffni_Yank on May 18, 2011, 02:28:13 PM
We'd be happy enough with how we are getting so far in Division Two, a little bit more consistency and we might me able to challenge the Champions League places  ;D

Heard today the Cavan juniors are playing next Wed against Longford. I imagine that is where most of our 21's that were called up to the senior team will be used.

Is Terry and Val managing it?

Next Wednesday playing Longford in Pearse Park. Panel only being picked this week. Should be enough quality with U-21s and the rest to give it a rattle though.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: PhilsJemmysField on May 23, 2011, 12:50:11 PM
Any word from the Cavan challenge at the weekend. 
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on May 23, 2011, 02:46:44 PM
From Hoganstand.  No match report but a poster gave these teams.

Result Louth 1-19 0-12 Cavan.  What changes on this team for the championship?

ochonlir
County: Cavan
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937794  LOUTH: Neil Gallagher; Declan Byrne, Aaron Hoey, Gerard Hoey; Ray Finnegan, Dessie Finnegan, Liam Shevlin; Paddy Keenan, Brian Donnelly; Derek Crilly, David Reid, Adrian Reid; Colm Judge, Shane Lennon, Darren Clarke.
Subs used: Craig Lynch for Neil Gallagher, Eamonn McAuley for Derek Crilly, Ronan Greene for Gerard Hoey, Stephen Fitzpatrick for Liam Shevlin, Ronan Carroll for Brian Donnelly, Andy McDonnell for David Reid, Paraic Smith for Colm Judge, Derek Maguire for Darren Clarke (all half-time), Eamonn O'Neill for Declan Byrne (50), Jim McEnaney for Shane Lennon (50), Paraig Rath for Ray Finnegan (56), Ronan Holcroft for Adrian Reid (58).

CAVAN: Jame Reilly, Dane O'Dowd, Thomas Corr, James McEnroe; Mark McKeever, Fergal Flanagan, Tommy Wateley; David Givney, John McCutcheon; Keith Fannin, Ray Cullivan, Niall McKiernan; Seanie Johnson, Eugene Keating, Cian Mackey.
Subs: Allan O'Mara, Stephen Jordan, Dermot Sheridan, Gareth Smith, Michael Brennan, Damien Barkey, Sean McCormack, Michael Lyng, Martin Cahill, Brian McCormack, Thomas Reilly, Killian Reilly. 
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: PhilsJemmysField on May 23, 2011, 04:46:42 PM
If that subs for Cavan is subs used than would be very hard to get a feel for where we are at really
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on May 23, 2011, 05:59:00 PM
Here is the report from Hoganstand

SF challenge: Strong Louth finish downs Cavan
23 May 2011


Louth 1-19
Cavan 0-12

Louth continued preparations for their Leinster SFC campaign with a comprehensive win over Cavan at the St Mochtas pitch in Louth Village yesterday afternoon.



Wee County boss Peter Fitzpatrick named a strong starting 15 for the game which marked the 50th anniversary of the opening of Pairc Mhocta, while the Cavan team-sheet was short of a number of regulars as a number of squad players were tested ahead of this Wednesday night's Leinster JFC quarter-final against Longford.

The hosts made the better start, with scores from Brian Donnelly, Adrian Reid, Derek Crilly (2), David Reid and a free from Darren Clarke moving them in a 0-6 to 0-3 lead. Down the other end, Sean Johnston and Damien O'Reilly kept the Breffni men in touch before the former had a shot at goal well-saved by Neil Gallagher in the Louth goal.

Keith Fannin did grab a score for Cavan before the close of the half, but scores from David Reid, Crilly and the returning Shane Lennon made sure last year's Leinster finalists went in with a 0-8 to 0-5 lead at the break.

Both sides made wholesale changes for the second-half and they seemed to work better for Cavan as quick points from Tomas Corr, Ray Cullivan and Cian Mackey cut the deficit down to a single point.

However, Louth substitute Derek Maguire struck for three points in the space of five minutes to knock the stuffing out of Cavan and scores from Adrian Reid and Eamonn O'Neill put them further adrift.

With five minutes remaining, Michael Brennan and Paddy Keenan swapped scores before Padraic Smith's goal ensured victory for the home side, who finished with late scores from Ronan Holcroft and O'Neill.

Louth: Neil Gallagher; Declan Byrne, Aaron Hoey, Gerard Hoey; Ray Finnegan, Dessie Finnegan, Liam Shevlin; Paddy Keenan, Brian Donnelly; Derek Crilly, David Reid, Adrian Reid; Colm Judge, Shane Lennon, Darren Clarke.

Subs used: Craig Lynch for Neil Gallagher, Eamonn McAuley for Derek Crilly, Ronan Greene for Gerard Hoey, Stephen Fitzpatrick for Liam Shevlin, Ronan Carroll for Brian Donnelly, Andy McDonnell for David Reid, Padraic Smith for Colm Judge, Derek Maguire for Darren Clarke (all half-time), Eamonn O'Neill for Declan Byrne (50), Jim McEneaney for Shane Lennon (50), Padraig Rath for Ray Finnegan (56), Ronan Holcroft for Adrian Reid (58).

Cavan: James Reilly; Dane O'Dowd, Thomas Corr, James McEnroe; Mark McKeever, Fergal Flanagan, Thomas Wakely; David Givney, John McCutcheon; Keith Fannin, Ray Cullivan, Niall McKiernan; Sean Johnston, Eugene Keating, Cian Mackey.

Subs used : Alan O'Mara, Stephen Jordan, Dermot Sheridan, Gareth Smith, Michael Brennan, Damien Barkey, Sean McCormack, Michael Lyng, Martin Cahill, Ryan McCormack, Tomas Reilly, Cillian O'Reilly.



Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: whats my name on May 23, 2011, 06:42:09 PM
i was at the louth game myself. well the display from both teams was bad one of the worst games of football I've seen in awhile no game plan from cavan just hoofing aimless balls into our full forward line i counted at least 6 sky scrapers that went into jelly who's man was at least 6 inch's taller then him and didn't win one instead of playing good ball out in front so he can run onto it and use his pace from what i seen at the challenge both teams will possibly exit the championship early. louth only pulled away in the last five Min's and the scoreline flattered them a bit 1 or 2 good displays from our boys butsy was good at full back as was Niall Murray at wing half forward he got up and down the pitch very well tracking his man as well as setting up a good few attacks
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on May 23, 2011, 10:20:41 PM
Thomas reilly and cillian reilly both played against down in a challenge a few weeks ago, the panel was named later with a pile of u21s and the pair of lads were not named. Now they are playing 3 weeks before the championship. Looks like they haven't a clue who they are going to play. I don't get a good feeling about this campaign.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Blue06 on May 23, 2011, 11:10:50 PM
Myles, I don't think we can read too much into this match.  It appears(judging by team selection and subs used) they were half preparing for the Junior championship match against Longford  this week(Wed).  Now, whether this is the right way to go about things is another question. 
Anyway best of luck to Boojangles and the team this week.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: North Longford on May 24, 2011, 12:21:20 PM
Quoteno game plan from cavan just hoofing aimless balls into our full forward line
That was the bit that was very noticeable in the Longford challenge as well. Pierson was full forward and Longford had a lad playing his first game at full back who is actually a midfielder for his club. So you could imagine the success Pierson had with these skyscrapers coming down at him. Was really surprised at the way cavan played the ball particularly as they wouldn't have the biggest forwards in the world.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on May 24, 2011, 01:16:15 PM
Quote from: Blue06 on May 23, 2011, 11:10:50 PM
Myles, I don't think we can read too much into this match.  It appears(judging by team selection and subs used) they were half preparing for the Junior championship match against Longford  this week(Wed).  Now, whether this is the right way to go about things is another question. 
Anyway best of luck to Boojangles and the team this week.

I know what you are saying but what worries me is the fact that we seem to be using huge numbers of players now when it should have been in the McKenna cup we did this. There are lads on the team in these games who never got a run with Cavan, Cillian O Reilly is one from my own club. These guys appear on the team, vanish and then reappear a few weeks later. Gaynor was there now hes gone, same with Pierson. 3 weeks before the Donegal team you'd think we'd be close to getting a settled team but it appears more like we are calling to lads houses to get them to go along and make up the numbers. I hope I am wrong.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on May 24, 2011, 02:06:57 PM
Hope we do a Leitrim.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: PhilsJemmysField on May 24, 2011, 02:23:32 PM
This stuff again for this weekend, this whole playing league matches during the week is tough going on the Dublin lads. Hope we get the right result against Donegal

The Cavan Senior Team Management has requested that the county players would not play with their clubs this weekend due to their training schedule.
 
Therefore ONLY THE CLUBS with county players have the option of playing the match without county players or postponing the match until Wednesday 15th June 2011. 
 
All Reserve Games go ahead along with games that don't involve county players.
 
Please let me know by email, text or phone by Wednesday at 6pm so I can send out a revised fixture list for the weekend.
 
Apology for the short notice and the inconvenience.
 
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on May 25, 2011, 10:37:51 PM
From Hoganstand.

How many of those who played today will be eligible in the next Junior game?  3 or 4 of them will be pushing for a place on the senior team.

Breifne_Blue
County: Cavan
Posts: 182

940336  Cavan 1.12
Longford 2.06

A OMara.
T Hyland.P Carroll J McEnroe.
S Jordan.F Flanagan.M Brady.
E King. Cullivan.
N Murray. Lyng. Fannin.
McKiernan. J Reilly. AReilly. 
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Ollie on May 25, 2011, 11:09:39 PM
Quote from: Denn Forever on May 25, 2011, 10:37:51 PM
From Hoganstand.

How many of those who played today will be eligible in the next Junior game?  3 or 4 of them will be pushing for a place on the senior team.

Breifne_Blue
County: Cavan
Posts: 182

940336  Cavan 1.12
Longford 2.06

A OMara.
T Hyland.P Carroll J McEnroe.
S Jordan.F Flanagan.M Brady.
E King. Cullivan.
N Murray. Lyng. Fannin.
McKiernan. J Reilly. AReilly.

Interesting team. Would have liked to see a few more u21s on it such as Kevin Meehan, Jack Brady, Niall Smith & Niall McDerrmott. I don't see the point in playing Terry Hyland or Jason Reilly as neither have a future in playing for Cavan and senior level again.
Enda King should have been given a run-out during the league IMO but seemingly didnt. Don't see how a junior game is any benefit to him now.
Still Though it was a good result. It's great seeing Lyng back playing regular football. The man still has a lot to offer. The more game time he gets before Donegal the better. Same can be said for Cullivan and Fannin.   
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on May 26, 2011, 05:44:03 PM
Are we gong to do a Gerethy with Jason O'Reilly?  Larry Reilly is playing well for Knockbride.

| More Leinster JFC: Cavan edge into semis

Ray Cullivan lets the ball off for Cavan as Longford defender Michael Victory tries to stop him in his tracks during the Leinster Junior Football Championship Quarter-Final at Pearse Park.
26 May 2011


Cavan 1-12
Longford 2-6

Cavan booked their place into the last four of the Leinster Junior Football Championship last night with victory over neighbours Longford at Pearse Park.

Cavan, who reached the final of this competition last year, found the better start in the opening exchanges and drew first blood when they bagged their only goal inside the first six minutes. A delightful ball played in by playmaker Michael Lyng was seized upon by Jason O'Reilly and the veteran forward made no mistake in placing his shot to the top corner of the Longford net.



The goal stunned the home side somewhat and delayed them settling into the game, but by the closing stages of the half they had moved into the lead thanks to an Enda Ledwith goal and two frees from marksman James Noonan.

Longford were handed the perfect start to the second-half, when a poor kick-out from Cavan goalkeeper Alan O'Mara fell to Mark McDonnell and the corner-forward was awarded the time and space to register the hosts' second goal.

The visitors responded well, however, as points from O'Reilly, Lyng and Michael Brady earned them parity. The final ten minutes proved to be thrilling stuff, with both sides sharing the lead at different phases but Cavan had the final say and three points in the closing minutes earned them the victory.

Terry Hyland's charges now face Kilkenny, who stunned Wexford with a late Michael Malone goal, in the semi-finals, while the other last four clash sees Dublin and Kildare do battle.

Cavan: Alan O'Mara; Terry Hyland, Patrick Carroll, James McEnroe; Stephen Jordan (0-1), Feargal Flanagan, Michael Brady (0-1); Ray Cullivan, Enda King; Keith Fannin (0-1), Michael Lyng (0-1), Niall Murray (0-2, 2f); Gearoid McKiernan (0-1), Jason O'Reilly (1-2), Anton O'Reilly (0-1). Subs: Brendan Fitzpatrick for E King (38 mins), Cillian Reilly for P Carroll (45 mins), Declan Meehan (0-1) for N Murray (48 mins), Ryan McCormack (0-1) for M Lyng (54 mins).

Longford: James McKenna; James Carroll, Michael Victory, Aaron Quinn; Colm P Smyth, Mark Duffy, Peter Masterson; Ger Dennigan, Johnny Kane; Enda Ledwith (0-1), James Martin (0-1), Diarmuid Cooney; Mark McDonnell (1-0), James Noonan (0-4, 4f), Ciaran Williams. Subs: Barry McKeon (0-1) for D Cooney (45 mins), James McGivney for P Masterson (54 mins).

Ref: Sean Carroll (Westmeath)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Giveitlong on May 26, 2011, 06:19:37 PM
Quote from: Ollie on May 25, 2011, 11:09:39 PM
Quote from: Denn Forever on May 25, 2011, 10:37:51 PM
From Hoganstand.

How many of those who played today will be eligible in the next Junior game?  3 or 4 of them will be pushing for a place on the senior team.

Breifne_Blue
County: Cavan
Posts: 182

940336  Cavan 1.12
Longford 2.06

A OMara.
T Hyland.P Carroll J McEnroe.
S Jordan.F Flanagan.M Brady.
E King. Cullivan.
N Murray. Lyng. Fannin.
McKiernan. J Reilly. AReilly.

Interesting team. Would have liked to see a few more u21s on it such as Kevin Meehan, Jack Brady, Niall Smith & Niall McDerrmott. I don't see the point in playing Terry Hyland or Jason Reilly as neither have a future in playing for Cavan and senior level again.
Enda King should have been given a run-out during the league IMO but seemingly didnt. Don't see how a junior game is any benefit to him now.
Still Though it was a good result. It's great seeing Lyng back playing regular football. The man still has a lot to offer. The more game time he gets before Donegal the better. Same can be said for Cullivan and Fannin.   

Funny but I disagree with you. I exactly see the point in peppering the team with a couple of older lads who might no longer harbour realistic senior intercounty ambitions. Last night featured by my reckoning 8 of this or last year's u21 county sides. By lining out a blended 15, they got to play with a number of of players with decent experience of intercounty fare (Cullivan, Fannin. Lyng), as well as a player with immense experience in Jason Reilly and also a very good match player in Enda King a player who brings others into the game, with Lyng a proven and experienced playmaker (when match fit) who can also bring players into the game (just what a young player needs). In my opinion that's definitely a good way to blood players. It's a less pressurized environment, an increased likelihood of winning (with the couple of proven and experienced players), a chance to learn from the older guys, and maybe a chance to string a few wins and gain extra confidence in their own intercounty ability.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Blue06 on May 26, 2011, 07:12:09 PM
I read that the Juniors now play Kilkenny in the Semi Final.

I wonder would this be the first ever meeting between the counties in any GAA code?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on May 26, 2011, 07:19:49 PM
Quote from: Blue06 on May 26, 2011, 07:12:09 PM
I read that the Juniors now play Kilkenny in the Semi Final.

I wonder would this be the first ever meeting between the counties in any GAA code?

Could  be but whatever happens, I hope we don't do a Sligo on it.

Where will the game be?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on May 26, 2011, 09:51:05 PM
Quote from: Denn Forever on May 26, 2011, 07:19:49 PM
Quote from: Blue06 on May 26, 2011, 07:12:09 PM
I read that the Juniors now play Kilkenny in the Semi Final.

I wonder would this be the first ever meeting between the counties in any GAA code?

Could  be but whatever happens, I hope we don't do a Sligo on it.

Where will the game be?

It will be away I presume. We don't get home (or neutral for that matter) venue games in Leinster.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dougal on May 27, 2011, 12:52:57 AM
is this kilkennys senior team as they dont enter the championship?as all their player should be eligeble for junior
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Ollie on May 27, 2011, 01:28:29 AM
Quote from: Giveitlong on May 26, 2011, 06:19:37 PM
Quote from: Ollie on May 25, 2011, 11:09:39 PM
Quote from: Denn Forever on May 25, 2011, 10:37:51 PM
From Hoganstand.

How many of those who played today will be eligible in the next Junior game?  3 or 4 of them will be pushing for a place on the senior team.

Breifne_Blue
County: Cavan
Posts: 182

940336  Cavan 1.12
Longford 2.06

A OMara.
T Hyland.P Carroll J McEnroe.
S Jordan.F Flanagan.M Brady.
E King. Cullivan.
N Murray. Lyng. Fannin.
McKiernan. J Reilly. AReilly.

Interesting team. Would have liked to see a few more u21s on it such as Kevin Meehan, Jack Brady, Niall Smith & Niall McDerrmott. I don't see the point in playing Terry Hyland or Jason Reilly as neither have a future in playing for Cavan and senior level again.
Enda King should have been given a run-out during the league IMO but seemingly didnt. Don't see how a junior game is any benefit to him now.
Still Though it was a good result. It's great seeing Lyng back playing regular football. The man still has a lot to offer. The more game time he gets before Donegal the better. Same can be said for Cullivan and Fannin.   

Funny but I disagree with you. I exactly see the point in peppering the team with a couple of older lads who might no longer harbour realistic senior intercounty ambitions. Last night featured by my reckoning 8 of this or last year's u21 county sides. By lining out a blended 15, they got to play with a number of of players with decent experience of intercounty fare (Cullivan, Fannin. Lyng), as well as a player with immense experience in Jason Reilly and also a very good match player in Enda King a player who brings others into the game, with Lyng a proven and experienced playmaker (when match fit) who can also bring players into the game (just what a young player needs). In my opinion that's definitely a good way to blood players. It's a less pressurized environment, an increased likelihood of winning (with the couple of proven and experienced players), a chance to learn from the older guys, and maybe a chance to string a few wins and gain extra confidence in their own intercounty ability.

Yeah I can see you're point. I suppose there was no point throwing a group of young lads into the deep end by themselves. In reflection it was important that we won the game hence the reason so many experienced heads were playing. If we were to win the junior Leinster championship it would be seen as another bit of progress when were reviewing the year. Also I think Jason Reilly is apart of the Management team so no surprise he was playing. I think him not been involved with the senior team has made him a little more sharper and less fatigued. He could be in fine form and a real threat in the club championship this year.   
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dougal on May 27, 2011, 01:54:58 PM
Jayos not playing with belturbet at the minute,and possibly wont be for the champ either.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on May 29, 2011, 02:16:41 PM
Anyone know where we could get updates on the Minor game?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up-again on May 29, 2011, 07:17:07 PM
Minors are 2-2 to 0-0 up after fifteen minutes
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up-again on May 29, 2011, 07:37:57 PM
Cavan 2-6 Antrim 0-00 at half-time
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on May 29, 2011, 07:53:23 PM
Quote from: put-it-up-again on May 29, 2011, 07:37:57 PM
Cavan 2-6 Antrim 0-00 at half-time

Great stuff. Hopefully can close it out now
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up-again on May 29, 2011, 08:22:00 PM
Cavan 2-11 Antrim 2-2.

Good result for the Minors to get their season up and running. Where are they out next does anyone know? I think it's bad form not to let minors play before the senior games.

Anyone at it that could give a bit more detail on the game?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on May 29, 2011, 08:26:27 PM
Tyrone up next in the Semi Final. I would say it won't be until after the leaving cert now? Donegal and Antrim were the two weakest Minor teams in Ulster, Tyrone hammered Monaghan and will prove tough opposition. Cavan were down to 14 men 13 minutes into the second half when Dillon at midfield got sent off. After this Antrim got their two goals.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on May 29, 2011, 08:43:37 PM
Quote from: Westside on May 29, 2011, 08:26:27 PM
Tyrone up next in the Semi Final. I would say it won't be until after the leaving cert now? Donegal and Antrim were the two weakest Minor teams in Ulster, Tyrone hammered Monaghan and will prove tough opposition. Cavan were down to 14 men 13 minutes into the second half when Dillon at midfield got sent off. After this Antrim got their two goals.

Great result. Tyrone people saying this is a poor enough team they have having done badly in the ulster league, but they would say that.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on May 29, 2011, 08:57:27 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on May 29, 2011, 08:43:37 PM
Quote from: Westside on May 29, 2011, 08:26:27 PM
Tyrone up next in the Semi Final. I would say it won't be until after the leaving cert now? Donegal and Antrim were the two weakest Minor teams in Ulster, Tyrone hammered Monaghan and will prove tough opposition. Cavan were down to 14 men 13 minutes into the second half when Dillon at midfield got sent off. After this Antrim got their two goals.

Great result. Tyrone people saying this is a poor enough team they have having done badly in the ulster league, but they would say that.



delighted with that. somebody mentioned Antrim and Donegal being the worst minor teams in Ulster. I'm fairly sure Donegal won the Ulster Minor league convincingly and I think they quite fancied themselves this year. Tyrone certainly weren't up to much in the league but won't fear a Cavan jersey, that's for sure. Still, great result for a team we've heard feck all about, up to now anyways.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Breffni_Yank on May 29, 2011, 09:03:27 PM
I honestly didn't even know the minors were playing today but delighted they got a win. I think the u21's run this year has obviously taken the huge amount of pressure/expectation that is normally put on the minors by us supporters each year and that can only be a good thing.

Next game is June 26th according to Ulster Council website.

Tyrone will be a good test as always but its great to get a win and a bit of momentum behind them. Just one game away from another Ulster final appearance so it's great to see. 

Anyone got a team from today?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on May 29, 2011, 09:05:36 PM
Tyrone and Cavan have progressed to a semi-final meeting in the Ulster MFC after securing victories on Sunday.

All-Ireland champions Tyrone booked their place in the last four by beating Monaghan 0-15 to 1-5 at Brewster Park.

The Red Hands led 0-9 to 0-2 at half-time and a second-half goal by Mark McGuirk was not enough for Monaghan.

Cavan defeated Antrim 2-11 to 2-2 at Pairc Esler, Andrew Graham and Kevin Bouchier netting for Cavan and Ryan Murray and Finbar O'Neill for Antrim.

Tyrone scored nine points without reply, including two from blood sub Daniel McNulty, on their way to a seven-point half-time lead.

McGuirk was only on the field for two minutes.

Substitute McGuirk breathed new life into his side with a 1-2 salvo in the opening eight minutes of the second half.

The defending champions regrouped and finished strongly with points from subs Enda McGahan and McNulty.

Cavan led Antrim 2-6 to 0-0 at half-time and the Saffron boys did not register a score until the 11th minute of the second half when Ryan Murray scored a point.

Cavan's goals came in the second and ninth minutes while Antrim found the net in the 23rd and 26th minutes of the second half.

Cavan had Joe Dillon sent-off for a second yellow card offence in the 43rd minute
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on May 29, 2011, 09:05:57 PM
No I think Donegal and Antrim were at the bottom of their groups in the Ulster Minor League.. Armagh and Derry played the final with Derry winning.

Very little word about this minor team and lets hope it stays that way for the Tyrone game. One game away from a final is a great position to be in. Given the farce that was the management appointment it would be a big boost to get to the final.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up-again on May 29, 2011, 10:02:45 PM
Minor team to start today according to programme was:
1. Billy O'Mara (Bailieborough)
2. Brian Sankey (Shercock)
3. Killian Clarke (Shercock)
4. Francis Moore (Ballyhaise)
5. Gerard Smith (Lavey)
6. Conor Moynagh (Drumgoon)
7. Ciaran Brady (Arva)
8. Paul Graham (Cavan Gaels)
9. Joe Dillon (Kingscourt)
10. Andrew Dewart (Gowna)
11. Darren Monaghan (Lavey)
12. Michael Argue (Bailieborough)
13. Andrew Graham (Cavan Gaels)
14. Kevin Bouchier (Arva)
15. Conor Finnegan (Lacken)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: beer baron on May 30, 2011, 12:24:18 PM
Quote from: put-it-up-again on May 29, 2011, 10:02:45 PM
Minor team to start today according to programme was:
1. Billy O'Mara (Bailieborough)
2. Brian Sankey (Shercock)
3. Killian Clarke (Shercock)
4. Francis Moore (Ballyhaise)
5. Gerard Smith (Lavey)
6. Conor Moynagh (Drumgoon)
7. Ciaran Brady (Arva)
8. Paul Graham (Cavan Gaels)
9. Joe Dillon (Kingscourt)
10. Andrew Dewart (Gowna)
11. Darren Monaghan (Lavey)
12. Michael Argue (Bailieborough)
13. Andrew Graham (Cavan Gaels)
14. Kevin Bouchier (Arva)
15. Conor Finnegan (Lacken)

God i'm feeling old when off the top of my head  i only know one lad starting  :(
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: PhilsJemmysField on May 30, 2011, 02:15:22 PM
Think Cavan must have been playing a challenge at the weekend anybody hear anything
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: whats my name on May 31, 2011, 12:05:41 AM
yea they played carlow won by a point thats all i heard
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on May 31, 2011, 12:28:31 PM
From Hoganstand.

27 May 2011

Leinster J.F.C. Semi Final - Cill Chainnigh v An Cabhan

In view of last night's results it is now not necessary to change the date of this fixture. It remains on its original date of Wednesday 8th June 2011.

The game will be played in Nowlan Park, Kilkenny at 7.30p.m.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: PhilsJemmysField on June 02, 2011, 05:15:19 PM
It must b a good sign that the camp r united going into Donegal game absolutely no mention of anything anywhere
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on June 02, 2011, 06:02:48 PM
Quote from: PhilsJemmysField on June 02, 2011, 05:15:19 PM
It must b a good sign that the camp r united going into Donegal game absolutely no mention of anything anywhere

I really admire your optimism.
It is very low key alright. The same with our Minors. Nothing in the Celt last week about them. Usually a 2 page spread done and all that bla bla bla. TBH I didnt know our Minors were out until last Friday evening. Obviously my own fault but just goes to show how quiet things are on the GAA scene in Cavan since the AI final.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on June 02, 2011, 06:54:21 PM
It was good that there was no big build up of the Minors but the match reporter in the first few lines of the report wrote that the minors shone as no other Cavan Minor team has done over the past 40 years if ever.... It was a fine victory and fair play to them but I really do think this type of hype just goes to young lads heads.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on June 03, 2011, 09:13:02 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YCcRdrMdIT4

Some great scores in this.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on June 03, 2011, 10:52:18 PM
Some great scored there Myles.. Full forward line looks very sharp and some kick by the sub at the end. I saw Bouchier against Cavan Gaels in the Minor Final this year, great movement and skill. The management leaves something to be desired. I know lots of guys that played under Donohoe and the reports would suggest he shouldn't be anywhere near a county setup.. If he can get them past Tyrone I'll happily eat my words.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on June 03, 2011, 11:13:08 PM
Hmmm, very hard to comment based on 8 minutes of highlights but..............some great scores and there's a Lacken lad in there in the full forward line that looked the business at winning ball and doing something with it. The little bit we saw of Antrim attacking wouldn't fill you with huge hope. Minor level being so unpredictable don't be surprised if the defenders play a blinder next day and we kick 100 wides. Wasn't it two years ago that all 4 provincial champions were beaten in the AI quarter finals?

Would some of our posters from up Glan gap way (i.e. Westside) filll us in on an O'Donnell lad that played a lot of good ball last year and, I believe, is still underage. I've heard he's back from injury and in contention for a place in the next round.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on June 03, 2011, 11:58:44 PM
Nevin O'Donnell is a fine player. 6''2, well built can win ball and kick a score. Came on against Armagh in the minors last year and gave Cavan a chance with his free taking. Did his cruciate after that and from what I hear isn't the most committed to his recovery, which had went over the usual time. He was involved with the Minors all through the league and I believe was dropped before the Championship, perhaps that gave him a kick in the arse. I did hear he had been asked back though and those familiar with the team would suggest that if fit he would be a definite starter. Not that it means much particularly at Minor level but I believe he was picked on some list of Minor Players to watch out for in 2011.
It would be harsh on any lad to get dropped after the Antrim game given the forwards performance. But Nevin would be an excellent substitute particularly if the two lighter inside forwards were being muscled out.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on June 04, 2011, 09:29:34 AM
There is a young lad called conor smith playing div 1 football at corner back for killeshandra. He's only 16, 2 yrs left at minor. The lads at home tell me he is something else at corner back but didn't get a call up to minors initially, however I believe he got called in this week.
Some big skillful players on that team but we don't know what the standard of football in antrim is.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on June 04, 2011, 04:23:50 PM
By way of comparison with the Minors, take a look at the scoring ability of the Kerry and Tipp minors, an exhibition of long range scoring. Our Minors, much like the U21's need to work the ball in a lot more to take scores. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DWCn68GqKvk
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dougal on June 05, 2011, 12:39:25 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on June 04, 2011, 09:29:34 AM
There is a young lad called conor smith playing div 1 football at corner back for killeshandra. He's only 16, 2 yrs left at minor. The lads at home tell me he is something else at corner back but didn't get a call up to minors initially, however I believe he got called in this week.
Some big skillful players on that team but we don't know what the standard of football in antrim is.

smith is something else,has barely put a foot wrong so far this year for the seniors.consistently our best player.i hear hes called back in,hasnt been the most committed in the last few years but hasnt missed a training session this year for minors or seniors.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on June 05, 2011, 01:05:51 PM
The young fella sounds good.

Quotehasnt been the most committed in the last few years

jeez, the 12 to 16 years are the years to show commitment.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on June 07, 2011, 10:21:14 PM
Miller
O Dowd
Carroll
McEnroe
Niall Murray
McCutcheon
Damien Reilly
Cullivan
Givney
Fergal Flanagan
Lyng
Gearoid Mc
Jelly
Keating
McDermott

The Half forward line may be a bit different but thats the 15 named to start.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on June 07, 2011, 10:24:16 PM
Best of luck to Cavan Juniors 2mrw evening. Good to see we still have a Board member on the team flying the flag. Hopefully they can make another Leinster Final and who knows after that.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BigMac on June 07, 2011, 10:30:01 PM
Aren't you the member flying the flag Boo?
With regards the senior team, I'm sure Niall Murray will be in the forwards, and Flanagan in the backs, and possibly Cullivan and Gearoid switching. All in all, its a very young team, with only Miller, Lyng and Jelly what you would called "seasoned campaigners". Surprised not to see Dermot Sheridan in the full back line. Hopefully the lads that are picked are there on merit and will do the job on Sunday.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on June 07, 2011, 10:44:37 PM
Surprised that there's no big presence in the fullback line, Sheridan or Corr.. I think Nesty can feel hard done by he's always been steady and is a good free taker.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on June 07, 2011, 10:48:43 PM
Quote from: BigMac on June 07, 2011, 10:30:01 PM
Aren't you the member flying the flag Boo?
With regards the senior team, I'm sure Niall Murray will be in the forwards, and Flanagan in the backs, and possibly Cullivan and Gearoid switching. All in all, its a very young team, with only Miller, Lyng and Jelly what you would called "seasoned campaigners". Surprised not to see Dermot Sheridan in the full back line. Hopefully the lads that are picked are there on merit and will do the job on Sunday.

Afraid not Mac, did the knee playing a few weeks back. Its the sideline for me for a while.

I'm led to believe that Niall Murray will line out Half Back but who knows. Very very inexperienced team with only 3 survivors from last years team Vs Fermanagh. Hopefully it pays off.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on June 08, 2011, 12:12:26 AM
Cavan were at 7/2, now gone out to 4/1. Only 4 players on the team over 23.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: PhilsJemmysField on June 08, 2011, 02:03:41 PM
Holy God that is one hell of a young inexperienced backline so would expect both Flanagan and Lyng to be very deep. Expect to hear a lot about puke football after this
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on June 08, 2011, 02:35:10 PM
Good luck this evening.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on June 08, 2011, 02:38:11 PM
Quote from: Westside on June 07, 2011, 10:44:37 PM
Surprised that there's no big presence in the fullback line, Sheridan or Corr.. I think Nesty can feel hard done by he's always been steady and is a good free taker.

James McEnroe and Paddy Carroll arent exactly small men  though Westside.
Anyone else thinking of Fergal Flanagan for a potential man marking job,like he done on Coney in the Ulster under 21 final.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on June 08, 2011, 02:59:49 PM
Quote from: Westside on June 07, 2011, 10:44:37 PM
Surprised that there's no big presence in the fullback line, Sheridan or Corr.. I think Nesty can feel hard done by he's always been steady and is a good free taker.

Worth a few points every game and can knock over 45's that could make difference in a tight game.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on June 08, 2011, 03:08:52 PM
Quote from: PhilsJemmysField on June 08, 2011, 02:03:41 PM
Holy God that is one hell of a young inexperienced backline so would expect both Flanagan and Lyng to be very deep. Expect to hear a lot about puke football after this

If that happens we may forget about it. Breifni Park is a massive field and if we leave 60 or 70 yards between our Half forward line and Full forward line (like we have done before) then we will be bet and bet well. Thats not being negative, that is a fact.
Donegal will have at least one player dropping back in front of our Full-forward line. It is very hard to aim direct passes into a FF line when an intelligent player is covering in front.
Gaelic football is a very simple game and there is no point complicating it. You don't see Kerry or Cork with 11 men behind the ball. 11 men or whatever number behind the ball is great when you are protecting a 4 or 5 point lead with 5 minutes to go. IMO it should not be any teams main tactic for 70 minutes.
Our Half forward line will have to dictate to their men and make sure to get on lots of ball so their markers won't be worrying about going up the field. We will have to press and press when not in posession and that has to start with number 15. That doesn't mean pulling all our forwards back. It means going man for man with them instead of covering space like some lads are too used to doing.

One aspect of the U-21 win against them which should be used is the switching of play across the field.
If we can make use of the ample space which Donegal will leave then we are in with a chance.
We will need a massive game from James Reilly around the square as he is playing in front of 3 debutants.
We have to approach this game positively and make them worry about us.

Delighted to see Mickey Lyng back on the team. He has had a rough number of years but I think we might finally get to see him play to near his full potential again in the blue of Cavan.
Best of luck to all involved.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on June 08, 2011, 03:11:53 PM
Anyone think Flanagan will go full back and Niall Murray move into the forwards?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up-again on June 08, 2011, 03:18:34 PM
Junior team for tonight is as follows:

Alan O Mara
Terry Hyland
Thomas Wakely
Óisin Minagh
Stephen Jordan
Sean Mc Cormack
Michael Brady
Niall Mc Kiernan
Enda King
Robert Maloney-Derham
Anton O Reilly
Declan Meehan
Keith Fannin
Jason O Reilly
Jack Brady

Subs:
Stephen Tormey
Killian Reilly
Daniel Graham
Colm Smith
Ryan Mc Cormack
Tomas Reilly
Finbarr O Reilly
Barry Watters
Padraigh Reilly
Chris Conroy
Shane Tierney
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on June 08, 2011, 04:08:00 PM
How is Minagh available for tonight and not Sunday....?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on June 08, 2011, 04:31:52 PM
Quote from: Westside on June 08, 2011, 04:08:00 PM
How is Minagh available for tonight and not Sunday....?

He is going on holidays between now and Sunday and will be back before the next game Ulster Semi/Qualifer but has opted out completly.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: PhilsJemmysField on June 08, 2011, 05:01:04 PM
agree with all that Boo but does seem to be a defensive half forward line with Murray covering space. Win the middle Diamond and win the game. We can go into this with hope after the u21 run. Givney hopefully is back to himself and a good work rate from McKiernan. Cullivan and Eugene Keating will have to step on and give a consistent performance and not just do the flash stuff. We will travel in hope
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on June 08, 2011, 05:19:06 PM
i would reckon the seniors will line up something like

                        Miller

Carroll             Flanagan        O Dowd
                     (on Murphy)
                         

McEnroe           McCutcheon      Reily

           McKiernan       Givney

Murray              Lyng           Keating

Jelly                  Cullivan          McDermott
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on June 08, 2011, 05:39:26 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on June 08, 2011, 05:19:06 PM
i would reckon the seniors will line up something like

                        Miller

Carroll             Flanagan        O Dowd
                     (on Murphy)
                         

McEnroe           McCutcheon      Reily

           McKiernan       Givney

Murray              Lyng           Keating

Jelly                  Cullivan          McDermott

Cullivan will be out around the middle Id say and Keating will hav to be in the FF line because its the only place for him. IMO.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on June 08, 2011, 05:43:39 PM
Quote from: boojangles on June 08, 2011, 05:39:26 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on June 08, 2011, 05:19:06 PM
i would reckon the seniors will line up something like

                        Miller

Carroll             Flanagan        O Dowd
                     (on Murphy)
                         

McEnroe           McCutcheon      Reily

           McKiernan       Givney

Murray              Lyng           Keating

Jelly                  Cullivan          McDermott

Cullivan will be out around the middle Id say and Keating will hav to be in the FF line because its the only place for him. IMO.

Keating played against against ourselves 2/3 weeks ago on the 40,and his movement,workrate and long range point scoring were fantastic.Best individual display ive seen in Division 1 this year.
I think Rays aerial ability would leave him  better suited as a target man in at Full Forward,as his lack of pace might be exploited by Donegal out the field.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on June 08, 2011, 05:46:45 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on June 08, 2011, 05:43:39 PM
Quote from: boojangles on June 08, 2011, 05:39:26 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on June 08, 2011, 05:19:06 PM
i would reckon the seniors will line up something like

                        Miller

Carroll             Flanagan        O Dowd
                     (on Murphy)
                         

McEnroe           McCutcheon      Reily

           McKiernan       Givney

Murray              Lyng           Keating

Jelly                  Cullivan          McDermott

Cullivan will be out around the middle Id say and Keating will hav to be in the FF line because its the only place for him. IMO.

Keating played against against ourselves 2/3 weeks ago on the 40,and his movement,workrate and long range point scoring were fantastic.Best individual display ive seen in Division 1 this year.
I think Rays aerial ability would leave him  better suited as a target man in at Full Forward,as his lack of pace might be exploited by Donegal out the field.

I keep hearing this but have seen very little from him in Cavan Colours. 
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on June 08, 2011, 05:54:09 PM
Quote from: tommysmith on June 08, 2011, 05:46:45 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on June 08, 2011, 05:43:39 PM
Quote from: boojangles on June 08, 2011, 05:39:26 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on June 08, 2011, 05:19:06 PM
i would reckon the seniors will line up something like

                        Miller

Carroll             Flanagan        O Dowd
                     (on Murphy)
                         

McEnroe           McCutcheon      Reily

           McKiernan       Givney

Murray              Lyng           Keating

Jelly                  Cullivan          McDermott

Cullivan will be out around the middle Id say and Keating will hav to be in the FF line because its the only place for him. IMO.

Keating played against against ourselves 2/3 weeks ago on the 40,and his movement,workrate and long range point scoring were fantastic.Best individual display ive seen in Division 1 this year.
I think Rays aerial ability would leave him  better suited as a target man in at Full Forward,as his lack of pace might be exploited by Donegal out the field.

I keep hearing this but have seen very little from him in Cavan Colours.

Two years ago against fermanagh in the championship,he was instrumental as a targetman. Hes also played well in a multitude of league games.
He hasnt played very many championship games for Cavan,as he was frozen out in Keoghans second year and left last year.
He will struggle around the middle because at 5'11 ,he will be giving away 3/4 inches of height against most IC midfielders,and that when you take into account reach etc is major,but his fielding ability,strength and jumping ability alongside his allround game would make him a tough opponent at FF.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on June 08, 2011, 06:04:07 PM
McKiernan interviewed in the Celt saying he's not ready for Midfield just yet, could that mean that he will not be playing his whole game in the middle of the field? I agree with BHM about Keating. Remember the damage he did against Tipp when he went out towards the 40? With Donegal packing their defence his ability to take long range scores will be vital.

I think this is a huge game for Givney and Keating to deliver on their potential, they need to prove that they can cut it at this level.

Cullivan was immense at midfield against Tyrone in the McKenna Cup, he played like a man possessed that day and more or less roasted Hughes. If he can repeat that type of performance I'd have no qualms about playing him in the middle.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on June 08, 2011, 06:36:05 PM
Quote from: boojangles on June 08, 2011, 05:39:26 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on June 08, 2011, 05:19:06 PM
i would reckon the seniors will line up something like

                        Miller

Carroll             Flanagan        O Dowd
                     (on Murphy)
                         

McEnroe           McCutcheon      Reily

           McKiernan       Givney

Murray              Lyng           Keating

Jelly                  Cullivan          McDermott

Cullivan will be out around the middle Id say and Keating will hav to be in the FF line because its the only place for him. IMO.

Best I've seen Keating playing was further out the field. No sure that FF suits him. Cullivan is due a big game for us for me he has not lived up to the potential he showed underage or even in his 1st senior season when he was superb. Saw him in a challenge against Down and he was terrible. Maybe he needs a kick in the hole, if so lets hope he got it and is fired up to prove a point. I think Johnston is going to need a lot of help in the FF line cos he will have 2 and 3 men on him whenever he gets the ball. Its critical that the others do their fair share too.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on June 08, 2011, 09:19:48 PM
Nobody is doubting Keatings potential and in fairness he has the ability to play anywhere he has that much going for him. But my opinion is that he is a selfish footballer whos first instinct is to take a solo, no matter what. We need to keep the ball moving fast on Sunday and I think he would slow things down around the middle.
He is strong and can win his own ball and he can also take a score. That's why I would play him FF.
I take the point that he scored 3 great points when brought out against Tipp but the game had opened up completely at that stage. Maybe I'm being harsh on the lad but I think the management have got it right with him.
I also seen Cullivan that day against Tyrone and while it was heavy conditions that night compared to what Sunday will be like, if you could even get that effort for 30 minutes around the middle it would make Givneys and Mc Kiernans life alot easier.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on June 08, 2011, 09:24:23 PM
Juniors apparently won 13 points to 4 and Kildare beat Dublin 1-9 to 5 in the other semi-final so it's Cavan v Kildare in the Leinster Junior Final in three weeks' time.

By the by, Cavan are unbeaten so far in Championship Football this year!!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on June 08, 2011, 10:19:56 PM
Quote from: put-it-up-again on June 08, 2011, 03:18:34 PM
Junior team for tonight is as follows:

Alan O Mara
Terry Hyland
Thomas Wakely
Óisin Minagh
Stephen Jordan
Sean Mc Cormack
Michael Brady
Niall Mc Kiernan
Enda King
Robert Maloney-Derham
Anton O Reilly
Declan Meehan
Keith Fannin
Jason O Reilly
Jack Brady

Subs:
Stephen Tormey
Killian Reilly
Daniel Graham
Colm Smith
Ryan Mc Cormack
Tomas Reilly
Finbarr O Reilly
Barry Watters
Padraigh Reilly
Chris Conroy
Shane Tierney



I tipped into Nowlan Park tonight. Team as above except Wakely and Minagh did not start (don't think Minagh togged out), replaced by Tomas Reilly and Finbar O Reilly (there''s a blast from the past). Maloney Derham dropped into defence and Finbar went into the ff line. All Cavan scores were kicked from play, Hard to know what to make of it as KK were, pardon the pun, Cat. However they did beat Wexford so maybe there was something there that they failed to show tonight. Scorers Michael Brady (3), McKiernan (3), Maloney (2), Meehan (2), Fannin (2), Jack Brady (1). Subs used Barry Waters, Ryan McCormack, Wakely and Conroy. McCormack nabbed a point as well. Thought we struggled a bit in the first half when I thought only Enda King and Fannin showed ok. We got a lot more space in the seond half and I was quite impressed with Meehan and McKiernan. The later could be an asset at midfield for Under 21's next year if he keeps working.

Noticeable again how we seemed much smaller than KK in a fair few lines, never seems to change.

See no harm at all in being involved in this. Good way to keep lads involved from the Under 21 level and if a few experienced heads are in there, so be it. Would not be sure I saw any potential game changers for next Sunday though.

Sunday's team clearly very inexperienced but there has been a need for a clear out for a while now. All we ask is that 20 lads put in an effort and play for each other. Would like to have seen Flanagan and Dermot Sheridan start for a bit more experience, but think there may be injuries involved, certainly in Ronan's case.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BigMac on June 08, 2011, 11:28:34 PM
I would love to know how many different players Cavan have used in championship football in the last 5 years. I know we had to bring in some of the under 21's this year, and a clean out was needed at some stage, but it seems like there is at least 5 new starters every year. No consistency at all. I realise consistency isn't what we need, when we were consistently losing, but just makes me wonder why there is such a high turn over. Would anyone be able to tell me where I could find the Cavan championship teams since say 2006?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on June 09, 2011, 01:11:24 PM
Quote from: BigMac on June 08, 2011, 11:28:34 PM
I would love to know how many different players Cavan have used in championship football in the last 5 years. I know we had to bring in some of the under 21's this year, and a clean out was needed at some stage, but it seems like there is at least 5 new starters every year. No consistency at all. I realise consistency isn't what we need, when we were consistently losing, but just makes me wonder why there is such a high turn over. Would anyone be able to tell me where I could find the Cavan championship teams since say 2006?

Id imagine its a crazy number altogether. In Cavan you could pick close to 100 footballers all around the same level who on their day could impress at IC level. Our problem is getting all the committed ones together who can gel and work as a team.
We have 3 starters retained for Sunday from last years team that played against Fermanagh. Even as regards the Junior team last nite, only Stephen Jordan played in last years Leinster Final.
Such a high turnover of players is not good and it doesn't happen in the successful counties.

I was looking through the Hoganstand archives but couldn't get anything. Ya may get the Breifni Blue books out!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Breffni_Yank on June 09, 2011, 02:03:31 PM
Quote from: boojangles on June 09, 2011, 01:11:24 PM
Quote from: BigMac on June 08, 2011, 11:28:34 PM
I would love to know how many different players Cavan have used in championship football in the last 5 years. I know we had to bring in some of the under 21's this year, and a clean out was needed at some stage, but it seems like there is at least 5 new starters every year. No consistency at all. I realise consistency isn't what we need, when we were consistently losing, but just makes me wonder why there is such a high turn over. Would anyone be able to tell me where I could find the Cavan championship teams since say 2006?

Id imagine its a crazy number altogether. In Cavan you could pick close to 100 footballers all around the same level who on their day could impress at IC level. Our problem is getting all the committed ones together who can gel and work as a team.
We have 3 starters retained for Sunday from last years team that played against Fermanagh. Even as regards the Junior team last nite, only Stephen Jordan played in last years Leinster Final.
Such a high turnover of players is not good and it doesn't happen in the successful counties.

I was looking through the Hoganstand archives but couldn't get anything. Ya may get the Breifni Blue books out!

Maybe Terry and Val might give us abit of stability now though. Read Hyland's piece in the Celt supplement today - he certainly seems to be thinking long term here. Vall too comes across as having the best interests of the county at heart and clearly isn't just here for a few pound like some of his predecessors. I find that very refreshing.

The back of the thing is interesting as well with the u21 goalie. It's nice to hear how players are feeling in a dressing room before a championship match.

Someone said Barry Watters played last night. What ever happened him? Was a great talent.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on June 09, 2011, 02:29:46 PM
Quote from: boojangles on June 09, 2011, 01:11:24 PM
Quote from: BigMac on June 08, 2011, 11:28:34 PM
I would love to know how many different players Cavan have used in championship football in the last 5 years. I know we had to bring in some of the under 21's this year, and a clean out was needed at some stage, but it seems like there is at least 5 new starters every year. No consistency at all. I realise consistency isn't what we need, when we were consistently losing, but just makes me wonder why there is such a high turn over. Would anyone be able to tell me where I could find the Cavan championship teams since say 2006?

Id imagine its a crazy number altogether. In Cavan you could pick close to 100 footballers all around the same level who on their day could impress at IC level. Our problem is getting all the committed ones together who can gel and work as a team.
We have 3 starters retained for Sunday from last years team that played against Fermanagh. Even as regards the Junior team last nite, only Stephen Jordan played in last years Leinster Final.
Such a high turnover of players is not good and it doesn't happen in the successful counties.

I was looking through the Hoganstand archives but couldn't get anything. Ya may get the Breifni Blue books out!

If I get a chance I might dig up the programs for the championship and I'll post the teams up. Would be interesting to see for sure.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on June 09, 2011, 03:33:19 PM
Reading the Kildare/Meath thread on the main board would depress the f%^k out of you.  Oh to have their problems.

I hope I am proved wrong but I don't see us beating Donegal on Sunday.  All the players of the above teams are good hardworking players but I don't see any "cute/glic" players.  Hopefully Lyng and Johnson will bring some of the CG magic to Cavan on Sunday.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on June 09, 2011, 03:35:23 PM
2006 Cavan 0-11 Down 1-13 :

James Reilly; Michael Hannon, Pauric Reilly, Keith Fannin; Martin Cahill, Anthony Gaynor, Paul Brady (0-1); Dermot McCabe (0-1), Cathal Collins; Mark McKeever, Peter Reilly, Sean Brady; Gerald Pierson (0-1), Larry Reilly (0-2), Sean Johnston (0-6, three frees).
Subs; Jason O'Reilly for Gerald Pierson; Cian Mackey for Peter Reilly; Joey Jordan for Mark McKeever; Eddie O'Reilly for Larry Reilly.

Qualifier 2006 Cavan 1-13 Kildare 1-18

James Reilly; Michael Hannon, Anthony Gaynor, Keith Fannin; Martin Cahill (0-1), Anthony Forde (0-1), Cathal Collins; Lorcan Mulvey, Dermot McCabe; Michael Brides, Sean Brady (0-1), Mark McKeever; Sean Johnston (0-6, five frees), Eddie O'Reilly (0-1), Larry Reilly (1-0). Subs; Ronan Flanagan (0-1) for Michael Brides; Enda King for Lorcan Mulvey; Jason O'Reilly (0-2) for McKeever; Padraig Reilly for Martin Cahill; Joey Jordan for Anthony Gaynor (inj)

2007 USFC Cavan 2-11 Down 3-08

James Reilly; Paul Brady, Eamon O'Reilly, Martin Cahill; Michael Hannon, Anthony Forde, Ronan Flanagan; Dermot McCabe (0-2, one free), Lorcan Mulvey; Raymond Cullivan, Mark McKeever, Larry Reilly (1-2); Sean Johnston (0-1), Gerald Pierson (0-3, one free), Jason O'Reilly (0-2, both frees). Subs; Cian Mackey for S Johnston; Nicholas Walsh for L Mulvey; Sean Brady (0-1) for G Pierson; Jonathan Crowe (1-0) for Paul Brady (inj).

Replay Cavan 0-11 v Down 0-15 

James Reilly; Michael Hannon, Eamon Reilly, Martin Cahill; Jonathan Crowe, Anthony Forde (0-1), Ronan Flanagan; Dermot McCabe (0-5, three frees), Ciaran Galligan; Larry Reilly (0-1), Micheal Lyng, Sean Brady (0-1); Gerald Pierson, Mark McKeever, Jason Reilly. Subs; Sean Johnston (0-3) for G Pierson; Nicholas Walsh for Ciaran Galligan; Keith Fannin for Larry Reilly; Paul Brady for Jason Reilly; Lorcan Mulvey for Ronan Flanagan.

2007 Qualifier Cavan 3-7 v Mayo 1-19

James Reilly; Michael Hannon, Eamonn Reilly, Keith Fannin; Ronan Flanagan, Jonathan Crowe, Martin Reilly; Dermot McCabe (1-4, pen, three frees), Nicholas Walsh; Ray Cullivan (0-1), Anthony Forde, Mark McKeever; Gerald Pierson (0-1), Sean Brady, Larry Reilly (0-1). Subs; Dermot Sheridan for J Crowe; C Mackey for R Cullivan; Jason Reilly (1-0) for G Pierson; Micheal Lyng for L Reilly; Rory Gallagher for E Reilly.

2008 Preliminary Round Cavan 1-19 Antrim 1-14

James Reilly; Michael Hannon, Rory Dunne, Michael Brides; Dermot Sheridan, Anthony Forde, Martin Cahill (0-1); Michael McDonald (0-2), Dermot McCabe (1-1); Martin Reilly (0-3), Ronan Flanagan (0-2), Barry Watters; Cian Mackey, Sean Johnston (0-8), Jason O'Reilly (0-2). Subs - Padraig Reilly for Brides, Lorcan Mulvey for Sheridan, Paul Brady for Dunne, Eddie O'Reilly for O'Reilly.

2008 USFC Cavan 0-13 Armagh 0-17

James Reilly; Michael Hannon, Rory Dunne, Padraig O'Reilly; Barry Watters, Anthony Forde, Martin Cahill; Michael McDonald, Mark McKeever (0-1); Martin Reilly (0-1), Ronan Flanagan, Cian Mackey (0-2); Sean Johnston (0-6) (3f), Dermot McCabe (0-3), Jason O'Reilly. Subs - Lorcan Mulvey for McDonald, Sean Brady for J O'Reilly, Eddie O'Reilly for M Reilly, M McDonald for Mulvey, Dermot Sheridan for Dunne.

2008 Qualifier Cavan 1-13 Kildare (?)

James Reilly; Martin Cahill, Michael Hannon, Dermot Sheridan; Anthony Forde, Mark McKeever, Barry Watters; Eugene Keating, Dermot McCabe (0-4); Paul Brady (1-0), Ronan Flanagan (0-1), Martin Reilly (0-1); Sean Johnston (0-6), Eddie O'Reilly (0-2), Cian Mackey (0-1). Subs: Padraig O'Reilly for M. Reilly, Nicholas Walsh for Keating.

2009 USFC Cavan 0-13 Fermanagh 1-09
James Reilly; Michael Hannon, Dermot Sheridan, Michael Brides; John McCutcheon, Eugene Keating, Padraig O'Reilly; Nicholas Walsh, Ciaran Galligan; Sean Brady (0-2), Ronan Flanagan, Cian Mackey (0-2); Martin Reilly (0-4, 3f, 1 '45), Ray Cullivan, Sean Johnston (0-5, 2f). Subs: Rory Dunne for O'Reilly (63), David Givney for Galligan (63), Larry Reilly for Brady (66), Gerald Pearson for Mackey (70)

2009 USFC Cavan 1-7 Antrim 0-13

J Reilly, M Hannon, D Sheridan, M Brides, J McCutcheon, E Keating, P O'Reilly, N Walsh, C Galligan, S Brady, R Flanagan, C Mackey, S Johnston (0-4, 2f), R. Cullivan (0-1), M Reilly (0-1). Substitutes: P Brady for P Reilly (20), R Dunne for McCutcheon (40), L Reilly (0-1) for S Brady (44), D Givney (1-0) for Mackey (53), J O'Reilly for Keating (62).

2009 Qualifier Cavan 0-08 Wicklow 1-12

James Reilly; Michael Hannon, Dermot Sheridan, Michael Brides; Rory Dunne, Paul Brady (0-1), Ronan Flanagan; Nicholas Walsh, Ray Cullivan; Ciaran Galligan, Sean Brady, Eugene Keating; Gerald Pearson, Larry Reilly (0-3, 3f), Sean Johnston (0-3, 3f). Subs: C Mackey for Keating (29), M Cahill for Dunne (38), D Givney for S Brady (43), E Reilly for Galligan (58).

2010 USFC Cavan 0-13 Fermanagh 1-13

J Reilly; M Hannon, D Sheridan, M Brides; J McCutcheon, E Keating, P O'Reilly; N Walsh, C Galligan; S Brady, R Flanagan, C Mackey; S Johnston, R Cullivan, M Reilly.

2010 Qualifier Cavan 0-15 Wicklow 2-08

F Reilly; D Sheridan, T Corr, M Hannon; M Brides, J McCutcheon, A Clarke (0-1); C Galligan, L Mulvey; R Flanagan (0-2), G Smith (0-4, 1f, 1 '45'), E McGuigan (0-1); C Mackey, M Brennan, M Reilly. Subs: S Johnston (0-6, 2f) for Mackey, M Cahill for M Reilly, M McKeever (0-1) for McGuigan, D O'Dowd for Galligan.

2010 Qualifier Cavan 0-04 Cork 1-19

Cavan - F Reilly; M Hannon, D Sheridan, M Brides; A Clarke, J McCutcheon, M Cahill (capt); C Galligan, N Walsh; R Flanagan (0-2, one free), G Smith, E McGuigan; Philip Brady, M Brennan, S Johnston (0-1, free). Subs: M McKeever for Brady (20 mins), C Mackey (0-1) for Brennan (32 mins), Paul Brady for Galligan (41 mins), D O'Dowd for Brides (45 mins), T Corr for Flanagan (63 mins).

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BigMac on June 09, 2011, 07:37:49 PM
Cheers for that Westside. You must have had a good bit of time on your hands today. Will try and count up how many different players we've used now!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on June 09, 2011, 08:22:52 PM
Quote from: BigMac on June 09, 2011, 07:37:49 PM
Cheers for that Westside. You must have had a good bit of time on your hands today. Will try and count up how many different players we've used now!

Ah I just jotted that down from memory.. I'm actually a very busy career orientated person.. I swear...
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: PhilsJemmysField on June 10, 2011, 09:19:51 AM
Anybody know what is the story with these 3 boys Injured / Dropped ?

Martin Cahill,  Dermot Sheridan &  Mark McKeever

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on June 10, 2011, 02:32:50 PM
Quote from: PhilsJemmysField on June 10, 2011, 09:19:51 AM
Anybody know what is the story with these 3 boys Injured / Dropped ?

Martin Cahill,  Dermot Sheridan &  Mark McKeever

I believe that they picked the team on current form. Dermot Sheridan and Mc Keever both had injuries recently and may not be fully right. I know Martin Cahill has been around a while but if playing well I would definitely have him either corner back or half back. Very determined boy with great cutting. Hopefully they boys we have there on Sunday will display the same.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on June 10, 2011, 09:23:28 PM
Team named on Tuesday night which must be an all time record in Cavan, many's the morning of a match you'd be wondering what the line out is. Any views on whether we are trying a bit of the oul smoke and mirrors stuff and the starting 15 might difffer slightly from that which was announced. Personally I think there's only so far counties like ourselves can get with that sort of crack, it's not as if we are going to unsettle Donegal by springing Gooch Cooper and Paul Galvin on them.

Having said all that, if, for example, Mckeever and Dermot Sheridan lined out in the back line it would take a fair bit of the "totallly inexperienced" tag off the defence at any rate, you'd also have a lad who has played a fair bit with Murphy at college and might have a bit of an angle on him.

Anyway, very best of luck to all involved.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on June 10, 2011, 09:32:26 PM
Hyland seemed to stick with the named team in the u21s so I reckon that team will start. Mcguinness on the other hand fancies himself as a tactician and I reckon donegal will make some changes.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on June 11, 2011, 11:31:27 AM
Mckeever must be carrying a injury as he is usually one of the first players that would be starting for Cavan in a championship game. Its a pity Pierson, Ronan Flanagan and Pauric Reilly are ruled out. Three players who would have made a difference so hopefuly the young lads can do the business now. Hope lyng has a big game tomorrow as a lot of cavans play will be going through him, he is the best passer of a ball in Cavan serious vison, hopefully he will get some good ball into johnston and mcdermott. Donegal will be at more or less full strenght so we are going to be u against it.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Breffni_Yank on June 11, 2011, 12:37:52 PM
Cavan will be completely different to Antrim. And as a consequence, we will also play a different style and will employ a completely different game plan than we did the last day against Antrim," McGuiness told this week's Donegal Democrat.


I really hope he is just playing mind-games and they come and play their usual crap!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on June 11, 2011, 01:12:06 PM
Quote from: Breffni_Yank on June 11, 2011, 12:37:52 PM
Cavan will be completely different to Antrim. And as a consequence, we will also play a different style and will employ a completely different game plan than we did the last day against Antrim," McGuiness told this week's Donegal Democrat.


I really hope he is just playing mind-games and they come and play their usual crap!

Lets be honest, if Jim Mc Guinness doesn't tell his team to bomb balls into the Full forward line at every oppurtunity in the first 20 minutes then he is stupid. Val and Terry should know to expect that so I really hope they have a plan to counteract it.
I agree about Lyng being vital to Cavan 2mrw. He is the one player we have who can dictate a game with his passing and also his ability to take that extra second if needed to pick out a pass.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on June 11, 2011, 03:05:05 PM
Someone on HS saying that McKeever will start in place of Damien O'Reilly with McCutcheon going to fullback and McEnroe out to half back and Flanagan and Murray swapping with Flanagan who will be picking up McHugh. Does seem likely but I think Damien Reilly would be hard done by..
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: beer baron on June 11, 2011, 03:08:11 PM
Quote from: Westside on June 11, 2011, 03:05:05 PM
Someone on HS saying that McKeever will start in place of Damien O'Reilly with McCutcheon going to fullback and McEnroe out to half back and Flanagan and Murray swapping with Flanagan who will be picking up McHugh. Does seem likely but I think Damien Reilly would be hard done by..

Damien picked up a knock at training the other night,they didn't know how bad it was last i heard......
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on June 11, 2011, 09:28:26 PM
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/northern_ireland/gaelic_games/13734014.stm
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on June 12, 2011, 11:46:57 AM
Best of luck to the lads today. I hope they can go out and all play to the best of their ability and you never know that could be good enough for a win. Come on Cavan!!!!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on June 12, 2011, 12:13:52 PM
Todays the day and still doesn't feel like a big championship day in Breffni....

Hopefully the low key build up will be of benefit - An Cabhan Abú!!

Can't wait!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Breffni_Yank on June 12, 2011, 12:15:38 PM
Have a sneaky positive feeling about this one and I don't know why.....Once the teams gives 100% i'll be happy and we'll see how it goes from there.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: full moon on June 12, 2011, 05:24:42 PM
Utterly embarrassing performance. Poor Donegal side without their best player still destroy us.

Donegal came and done what they always do, blanket defense. Clueless "tactics" from us, or lack of. Dont know why Val Andrews was running around the field, seemed to be saying well done and other pointless stuff througout the game.

Going nowhere fast.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on June 12, 2011, 06:01:22 PM
Absolutely fuckin pathetic.
The Management had 7/8 months knowing that Donegal were the likely opponents and would play this way,and still absolutely no clue how to beat the blanket defence.
Kicking the ball over and back,passing the buck with absolutely no idea what to do.
What is the point in playing 2 extra men back when,we are 11 points down????
Paul Durkin took at least 5 Cluxton style kickouts, to free Donegal men throughout the game,and there was not one thing done about it.
When the ball did go high to midfield,we won 3 kickouts in the air to Donegals 0,of course once again we were destroyed on breaks.
We are going to get crucified on the Sunday Game tonight,and we 100% deserve it.

Full Back line was all over the shop,
How does Dane O Dowd let a 17 year old,push him about for the goal????
McBrearty roasted Dermot Sheridan aswell.
Carroll couldnt compete with McFadden.

Niall Murray tried hard to be fair,even if he did give the ball away a few times.
John McCutcheon was our best player,
Damien Reily looked composed on the ball and can be fairly happy with his debut.

Givney and McKiernan tried,but they had no support and were outnumbered 99% of the time at midfield.


Lyng gave the ball away every single time,and was lucky to stay on aslong as he did.
Fergal Flanagan put in a sight of work,but is probably at a bit raw for this level yet.

Niall McDermott threw himself about and showed for the ball. He needs to strengthen up though,as he was dispossed too easily.
Eugene Keating again tried hard,but with little support.
Jelly spent most of his time back in defence chasing Karl Lacey.

f**k it,enough or il just put myself in bad humour.  >:(
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: club_man on June 12, 2011, 06:16:17 PM
Shocking performace. The donegal style of play is absolutely putrid and goes against everything good in the game of football.13 men behind the ball at all times, I feel sorry for the people that paid 27 euro into the stand to watch this game.

As for us, where to start? Dane O'Dowd looked completely out of his depth, as said Mc Brearty destoyed him on his starting debut. Though Carroll did okish on McFadden. Dermot Sheriden always behind his man. Midfield I thought weren't great. The two Donegal men picked up a world of breaking ball and made good use of it.

Jelly could do nothing because of the way Donegal defence (and fowards) set up. Keating puts the head down too much and trys to do too much himself. Lyng I though was terrible. In the first half every ball he gave went backwards, including a number of frees which he directed back towards our defence.

Longford now in the qualifiers and I wouldnt be too hopeful.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: full moon on June 12, 2011, 06:53:39 PM
For a poor side like us, how can we put a panel with no players from the County Champions?

Beggars belief.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on June 12, 2011, 07:00:37 PM
Quote from: full moon on June 12, 2011, 06:53:39 PM
For a poor side like us, how can we put a panel with no players from the County Champions?

Beggars belief.

Their only representative ,probably the best Centre Half back in the county was played at cornerback for the first half of the league.
That makes complete sense doesnt it Full Moon?  ::)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on June 12, 2011, 08:27:21 PM
BBC with some woeful commentary there.. Basically mocking Cavan throughout the game, the performance might deserve no better but it was poor form.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on June 12, 2011, 08:36:01 PM
Steady on now lads!

First up, we effectively had an U21 team against a senior team today. It was men against boys. But that is the way its got to be because we can't get 15 men in Cavan that want to put in the effort (and that includes our county champions & Cavan Gaels players), dedication and all that is required to be a county footballer. We have to do what Roscommon did a few years back and go with youth, that 1st year they took a hammering of Mayo but then won Connaught and are now in another final.

It was clear from the parade that we were going to struggle physically to match Donegal and to break tackles. Now that does not explain the brainless tactics employed today. 2 Sweepers marking no one, intercepting nothing, just taken out of the game. No pressure on the Donegal midfield and half backs as they came forward. Lyng had a terrible game but was took off way too late. Big half time plan to put Givney FF lasted all of 10 minutes, he broke 3 balls in there and neither corner forward were anywhere near him! 10 points behind and put our best half back into corner back!!! Seanie Johnston captain?? won 1 ball clean in the whole match, compared to Niall McDermott who gave it a real go and kicked a few points and won a lot of frees. McKeever, Nesty and Brennan need to start cos we need a little bit more strength on the team next day.

Donegal are a well drilled team. They have a plan and they stick to it. They have what you could almost call set piece kick outs to ensure possession. They turn every game into a shite spectacle but its all within the rules so its up to the opposition to stop it.

I wouldn't be too hard on the players, its going to be a long journey back to being competitive at this level and that's just the way it is.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on June 12, 2011, 09:29:30 PM
Brennan has to start the next game, our best player against Fermanagh last year and did well when he came on today. Deserved his place. Johnston was terrible.. One attempt at a score from the corner in 70 minutes!? Not a captain, McCutcheon looked like a leader today.
Lyng trying to be "playmaker" would look more at home on a soccer pitch, passes from half forward to half back line is not picking out passes in a Gaelic football. Boys afraid to have a shot on goal when faced with a mass defence, nothing is more frustrating to watch.

Good post Myles, the players in fairness did seem to try hard and they are young, they need to be given time and chances to prove themselves.

Longford up next, a game we can win but it will be very hard especially after such a confidence knock as today. I'd start McKeever and Brennan.. And quit the negative muck.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on June 12, 2011, 09:41:37 PM
Nesty
Martin Cahill
Michael Brennan
Tommy Corr
Mark McKeever


should all start against Longford in my opinion.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on June 12, 2011, 10:32:34 PM
I don't want to get into the game of slating players after the loss but I do think Patrick Carroll doesn't look like a County footballer and neither does Dane O'Dowd, Carroll doesn't look to have the heart, the backheel at the end smacked of a player who didn't care that much. Maybe that's harsh but that's the impression I got.
Oisin Minagh, Marc Leddy and Rory Dunne will hopefully provide more options in defence next year..
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on June 12, 2011, 10:49:59 PM
When you actually look at it,only 4 of the under 21's started
Fergal Flanagan,Niall Murray,Gearoid McKiernan and Niall McDemott

Oisin Minagh
Kevin Meehan
Damien Barkey
Niall Smith
Packie Leddy
Jack Brady

Michael Brady and Alan O Mara were on the bench
That group were among the very best performers in the under 21 side,yet they werent on the panel today.
(Yes i know some of them were are in the States before anyone points that out)


Andrews/Hyland need to make up their mind,are they going tear up the script altogether and blood the under 21's and take whatever bumps that come,like Roscommon did a few years ago,or are they going to half arse it like they did today,playing new players(not under 21's) just for the sake of them being new who clearly arent as good as what is on the bench.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on June 12, 2011, 10:50:18 PM
Quote from: Westside on June 12, 2011, 10:32:34 PM
I don't want to get into the game of slating players after the loss but I do think Patrick Carroll doesn't look like a County footballer and neither does Dane O'Dowd, Carroll doesn't look to have the heart, the backheel at the end smacked of a player who didn't care that much. Maybe that's harsh but that's the impression I got.
Oisin Minagh, Marc Leddy and Rory Dunne will hopefully provide more options in defence next year..

Oisin Minagh - went to the US after the U21's, presume he knew he'd be involved with seniors but off he went
Leddy - Did he not refuse to go in
Dunne - Wouldn't go into seniors last year, I assume same this year.

This is the problem, a lot of these guys don't want to be there. Even if you put pressure on them to go in it would be with half a heart and then would they put their head in and take a kick to save a point?

This is a problem. We seem to have lost the link with the past. It should be every players dream to wear the Cavan jersey, not a chore. That's one of the reasons I went mad when the county team last year decided to play a f**king challenge game with Longford the day they put Mick Higgins, one of our greatest ever players, into the ground. The link is being lost and we might as well be Leitrim or Fermanagh as being Cavan if thats the way we are going to go on. So I have to believe the lads in there now are a different breed, I saw something in the U21's this year that was different, a f**k you we are Cavan and we won't lie down for anyone. That is why we must persevere with these lads and not make rash decisions and panic and bring people in that have rejected Cavan in the past, that want the bag and the gear and stick out their chests in the imperial cos they are county men without putting everything they have got into it.

A win against Longford would do wonders but it will be a tough one. I would make some changes. Maybe Brennan in and nesty for lyng. But most importantly, lets have a game plan that is simple yet effective. Let every man know their job. Hyland said in an interview after the game that the plan was to move the ball fast yet every ball that went to lyng went backwards. So either Lyng didn't hear the team talk or Hyland is talking shite? Anyway, keep it simple and take Longford on and attack them.

Enough ranting now for one night.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on June 12, 2011, 11:39:23 PM
In relation to Minagh, he went after the U21s yes but perhaps he just felt he had no more to give for the cause for the year, he busted himself for the Cavan jersey all year and even when facing a point hammering in Croker he still fought to the very end, I would have been much happier seeing him taking up position today than Carroll. Leddy went to San Fran for the summer I think and is Rory Dunne not out injured this year? I'd have a lot more respect for lads who are in while they are in and out when they are out, not lads like Lyng and Pierson who float around the panel "just for the sake of it" as Carr said.

Today showed it's a long road back from where we've found ourselves.. Time will tell if Tom Reilly and Hyland are the men with the knowledge and foresight to get Cavan back on the right road or if they are just spoofers.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: full moon on June 13, 2011, 12:09:45 AM
On Lyng, I feel hes overhyped. He looks good picking out passes for the Gaels against weaker club opposition. Truth be told, hes never really proven an awful lot in the championship, certainly compared to Johnston. So he shouldnt be guaranteed a place. I agree with Myles Nesty for Lyng would seem to be a good decision.
I'm not being negative for the sake of it, but some of the senior players arent cut out for it at this level.   

I didnt see the bench today, so cant comment really there but does anyone think there should be more Kingscourt players involved among others.

Personally I feel:
Alan Clarke, Barry Reilly (Kingscourt)
Gaynor
Sean McCormick (Ballyhaise)
Minnagh ( Redhills)

Would all improve the team especially the defence, who today I thought were poor. I know Minnagh is in America which is a shame as I feel he would be alot better than some of the defenders. I never been impressed by Dane O Dowd, and again today was not at the races, he must be doing something right to be there the last few years, but I dont think hes starting quality.

Also does anyone know if Niall Mckiernan or Declan McKiernan are involved in the panel. Again I feel these players have the size and ability to excel for the team.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on June 13, 2011, 12:23:49 AM
Quote from: full moon on June 13, 2011, 12:09:45 AM
On Lyng, I feel hes overhyped. He looks good picking out passes for the Gaels against weaker club opposition. Truth be told, hes never really proven an awful lot in the championship, certainly compared to Johnston. So he shouldnt be guaranteed a place. I agree with Myles Nesty for Lyng would seem to be a good decision.
I'm not being negative for the sake of it, but some of the senior players arent cut out for it at this level.   

I didnt see the bench today, so cant comment really there but does anyone think there should be more Kingscourt players involved among others.

Personally I feel:
Alan Clarke, Barry Reilly (Kingscourt)
Gaynor
Sean McCormick (Ballyhaise)
Minnagh ( Redhills)

Would all improve the team especially the defence, who today I thought were poor. I know Minnagh is in America which is a shame as I feel he would be alot better than some of the defenders. I never been impressed by Dane O Dowd, and again today was not at the races, he must be doing something right to be there the last few years, but I dont think hes starting quality.

Also does anyone know if Niall Mckiernan or Declan McKiernan are involved in the panel. Again I feel these players have the size and ability to excel for the team.

subs were
16. Alan O' Mara
17. Mark McKeever
18. Gareth Smith
19. Thomas Corr
20. Cian Mackey
21. (used by Dermot Sheridan who started)
22. Keith Fannin
23. Michael Brady
24. Stephen Jordan
25. Michael Brennan
26. Martin Cahill
2. James McEnroe??? (not sure if he was lined out or not)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on June 13, 2011, 10:09:07 AM
That was as bad as what i have seen in the last 20 years.  (obv wasnt in cork last yr)

I dont know if i can continue to waste hard earned money going to and paying into watch that trash.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: PhilsJemmysField on June 13, 2011, 10:31:49 AM
Either right or wrong we have t stick with these lads as at least they seem to want to play for Cavan. What Cullivan did was criminal but in a way what Damien Reilly did by lying down was even worse. Both incidents summed up the headless approach.  The next day vs Longford we  have t come out of our box and play with a half forward line and at least attempt to play football. Really disappointing that we made no attempt to be positive
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on June 13, 2011, 11:21:59 AM
Damian barkey was one if the subs yesterday aswell. Cavan were shocking yesterday, i think people read too much into the u21s getting to the All Ireland final. At the end of the day they were hammered by galway, and could have been beaten by a poor Wexford team if it wasn't for o'meara. It was a great achievment no doubt but dont think them players are going to change things all of a sudden but in time they will improve. I agree with the person who was talking about carrol not looking interested, he quit the panel early in the year as he wasn't fully commited, they rang him 4 or 5 times and he eventually decided to go back in. You either want to play or you dont. I think givney has gone back from last year, he seems like a bit of a poser like one or 2 other Cavan players ::)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on June 13, 2011, 12:15:32 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on June 13, 2011, 11:21:59 AM
Damian barkey was one if the subs yesterday aswell. Cavan were shocking yesterday, i think people read too much into the u21s getting to the All Ireland final. At the end of the day they were hammered by galway, and could have been beaten by a poor Wexford team if it wasn't for o'meara. It was a great achievment no doubt but dont think them players are going to change things all of a sudden but in time they will improve. I agree with the person who was talking about carrol not looking interested, he quit the panel early in the year as he wasn't fully commited, they rang him 4 or 5 times and he eventually decided to go back in. You either want to play or you dont. I think givney has gone back from last year, he seems like a bit of a poser like one or 2 other Cavan players ::)

Givney has been struggling with back injury all year so I think you should go easy on him. A lot is expected from him to carry the whole midfield and he is only 22, in his 2nd season with the seniors.

I watched the game on the TV again yesterday evening and I couldn't fault the effort of almost all the players, they tried hard but they hadn't the strength nor were they set up properly by management. Even Lyng, who had a poor game in terms of his distribution, did work hard to get the ball back. I'll probably be accussed yet again of targeting him but Johnston was the only player that did not pull his weight. His direct number (Karl Lacey) set up a huge amount of Donegal attacks so he neither contributed to scoring, winning possession nor tackling back. He most certainly did not play a captains part. I don't know what his problem is exactly but when your most skilful player and captain is a passenger then something is clearly wrong somewhere. Compare his contribution with debutant McDermott beside him.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on June 13, 2011, 01:31:37 PM
The problem is Myles, Seanie is lost in the blanket defence,it happened 2 years ago against Antrim in Clones,when he didnt get a kick. Hes a terrific footballer,but hes not going to win primary possession,not like Niall McDermott can, he just doesnt have the physique to do so.

I watched the game last night,and other than 3 mistakes(which unfortunately resulted in 1-02),Dane O' Dowd done alot of good work,put in alot of hits and good tackles,hes a good footballer,but is probably better suited as a wing back.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on June 13, 2011, 02:25:10 PM
Eugene Keating is another whose attitude I would question. Childish reckless challenges towards the end when things weren't going his way and could and perhaps should have been sent off. This after a game where he didn't take one shot at the posts as far as I can recall..

When are the Minors playing?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on June 13, 2011, 02:29:05 PM
Quote from: Westside on June 13, 2011, 02:25:10 PM
Eugene Keating is another whose attitude I would question. Childish reckless challenges towards the end when things weren't going his way and could and perhaps should have been sent off. This after a game where he didn't take one shot at the posts as far as I can recall..

When are the Minors playing?

Eugene Keating gave it a go yesterday to be fair Westside,he won a fair bit of ball in the full forward line,but was crowded out of it a number of times , as Cavan just did not have the numbers forward to support him. He also carried the ball well out the field.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: PhilsJemmysField on June 13, 2011, 03:25:49 PM
Apparently Longford game s going t be part of a double header in Breffni with Meath N Louth. Jesus we better win now imagine loosing in front of a few thousand Meath Men
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on June 13, 2011, 03:54:09 PM
A no brainer but a good piece of marketing to have a douleheader. 

We'll feel we could win and Longford will feel they could win so it sould be a good game.  As long as we give it a go and attempt to play some football.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on June 13, 2011, 04:02:15 PM
Mickey Harte definitely owes us one. Yesterday he got a free lesson in how NOT to play against Donegal.
Fair play to Donegal. They have a team plan that suits their players. We on the otherhand had nothing. Trying a re-hash of what we thought Donegal were going to do.
Niall Murray being asked to play in a position he has never played in before in the biggest game of his career.
We gave them the extra man out the field with this stupid tactic and they always had an extra man off the shoulder.
All the players worked hard but if that is the best 15 players we have in the county then my eyes are starting to fail me.
That wasn't a TEAM we seen out their yesterday. Even lining up for the National anthem tells a tale.
We'v all heard the stories of indiscipline and players getting away with it. It wasn't dealt with from the start of Val/Terrys reign and its hard to rectify it now.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on June 13, 2011, 04:11:49 PM
Quote from: boojangles on June 13, 2011, 04:02:15 PM
Mickey Harte definitely owes us one. Yesterday he got a free lesson in how NOT to play against Donegal.
Fair play to Donegal. They have a team plan that suits their players. We on the otherhand had nothing. Trying a re-hash of what we thought Donegal were going to do.
Niall Murray being asked to play in a position he has never played in before in the biggest game of his career.
We gave them the extra man out the field with this stupid tactic and they always had an extra man off the shoulder.
All the players worked hard but if that is the best 15 players we have in the county then my eyes are starting to fail me.
That wasn't a TEAM we seen out their yesterday. Even lining up for the National anthem tells a tale.
We'v all heard the stories of indiscipline and players getting away with it. It wasn't dealt with from the start of Val/Terrys reign and its hard to rectify it now.

What happened during the anthemn?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on June 13, 2011, 05:34:34 PM
Quote from: Denn Forever on June 13, 2011, 03:54:09 PM
A no brainer but a good piece of marketing to have a douleheader. 

We'll feel we could win and Longford will feel they could win so it sould be a good game.  As long as we give it a go and attempt to play some football.

Thats depressing that people would be happy with giving it a go against Longford. 

Shows how low things are at present  :(

I hope more experienced players are brought in the next day, it will be interesting to see if the panel will stay together.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on June 13, 2011, 06:25:22 PM
I'd rather lose to Longford playing attacking football instead of win playing defensive. Yes we are at a low point but the answer is not to start copying Donegal or Antrim tactics.
I also think any more than 1-2 changes (along with replacing Cullivan) would do the players confidence a lot of harm. Tell them we are building for the future and then dump them when things go pear shaped on their first outing? No.. It's hugely important the management stick with them.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Breffni_Yank on June 13, 2011, 08:35:29 PM
Was I the only one that thought we didn't look particularly fit? Who is the team trainer?

I think its vital we stick with the same team the next day and let these boys develop. What is the point in switching back to the old faces who have consistently let us down.

To be fair effort was not lacking on Sunday but it was clear one or two where out of their depth. Don't think O'Dowd has the makings of a cornerback at all. When the u21s bet Donegal earlier on in the year the workrate from the forwards was exceptional and probably the best I've ever seen from a Cavan team. We got nowhere near that level on Sunday. How many times did they waltz up the pitch without us getting a single hand on?

I'm not getting too down about the whole thing. Don't forget the u21's really only joined the panel two or three weeks ago so there is no way Val had the team as prepared as he would have liked.

Like the look of McDermott a lot and Murray and Flanagan's work ethic were excellent too. Them boys will improve as time goes on.

At the start of the year if we were told we told we would lose to Donegal but win an Ulster u21 I think we all would have been quite happy to take that.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up-again on June 13, 2011, 08:36:51 PM
Minnagh is definitely not in the States.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on June 13, 2011, 09:51:42 PM
Was reading an article about Laois a few weeks ago that got me thinking about our own situation. A number of minor and under 21 all irelands in the mid to late 90's but they feel they never quite went on and delivered at senior level as they would have wanted. One of the comments offered was that there was not a hard core of experienced players to bring them along and thus a pile of them were thrown in together at senior level. I think that just about sums up our situation perfectly at the moment. We have the product of two handy enough Under 21 sides coming through, which is a fraction of what Laois had to work with, the big problem as I see it is that I can't think of a single player over 25 years old that these young lads would look to as a real, genuine, no holds barred leader on and off the pitch.

Where we are might not be dis-similar to where we were in 1988 when we had an Under 21 side come from pretty much nowhere and make and AIF. We'd done feck all at senior level in the preceding six years, after 88 our first win in the Ulster Championship was in 1995!!!! As far as I'm concerned that was the difference when we won Ulster finally in 97. A bunch of young lads came through from the 96 Under 21 team and were able to gell in with serious experience like Damien O Reilly, Cahill, Carolan, Stephen King etc. etc. What we'd give for that sort of experience now. On a positive note we seem to be making some progress at underage level now and it would be great to see minors make an Ulster final and get through to an All Ireland series, no reason why we can't compete at Under 21 level again next year.

Having said all that these embarrassing defeats at senior championship level are getting too regular and need to stop before the young guys lose heart. Longford feel hard done by from the Laois game and we will have our hands full against them. Win two games in the qualifiers and don't feckin well lie down when we are beaten and there is some hope.

After that rambling shell shocked stream of consciousness I'm off for a lie down.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on June 14, 2011, 02:54:20 PM
Didn't get to see the match and to be honest amn't really pushed about digging it out anywhere on the internet either. I got to listen to Tynan on Northern Sound, the dubious merits of which for actually gaining an insight into the match in question having already been discussed, I'm in no position to offer my own.

I agree, however, with the poster above that if this season is about a new broom sweeping clean, then there's no point hitting the short-termism panic button and peppering the side with failures from previous reigns. If lads like McKeever and Flanagan are fit though - to echo ac39 above - I can see them starting because while team building is vital in Cavan right now, they do need a few slightly experienced heads around them. Overall, not surprised by the result and therefore not overly disappointed tbh although the abject manner of the performance and the embarrassingly clueless approach (by all accounts here) give cause for concern in the longer term.

I worry more about the minors now anyway, we got a good twist out of the U21s, if the minors achieve anything near that and the seniors salvage some pride with two wins in the qualifiers, it's still a season of some progress in Cavan.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on June 15, 2011, 10:50:37 AM
U21 team of 1988 played in 1985 Ulster Final against Donegal.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on June 15, 2011, 11:51:18 AM
Quote from: Denn Forever on June 15, 2011, 10:50:37 AM
U21 team of 1988 played in 1985 Ulster Final against Donegal.

What?? We played Donegal in 1983 Ulster Senior final. We also played in the Ulster Minor final in 1988 beaten by a Peter Canavan inspired Tyrone. Don't tink we reached any Ulster final in 1985?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on June 15, 2011, 12:06:56 PM
Contested the Ulster Minor final in 1985.  Members of that team included Ronan Carolan, Vivian Dowd, John Reilly of Coothill, John Donnelan of Bailiboro, Sean Pierson, Dessie and Lawrence Brady of Gowna.  Surprisingly, Damien Reilly, one of our best players of the 90s never played Minor or U21.

So brilliance at underage level is no predictor of suitability for IC.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on June 15, 2011, 01:13:24 PM
Quote from: Denn Forever on June 15, 2011, 12:06:56 PM
Contested the Ulster Minor final in 1985.  Members of that team included Ronan Carolan, Vivian Dowd, John Reilly of Coothill, John Donnelan of Bailiboro, Sean Pierson, Dessie and Lawrence Brady of Gowna.  Surprisingly, Damien Reilly, one of our best players of the 90s never played Minor or U21.

So brilliance at underage level is no predictor of suitability for IC.

Sorry my mistake.
Being very pedantic with ya Denn but Damien played on the 1988 U-21 team at Full-Back.

I agree with your point in general though. There is no doubting that we have some fine talent coming through and if handled correctly hopefully they will make Senior footballers. Niall Mc Dermott for instance didnt look out of his depth and had a fine 1st half. But there is still a big difference in U-21 and Senior football. Throwing 5 or 6 lads in at the deep end is ok when they are surrounded by seasoned campaigners. We didn't have that on Sunday and I fear that the experience may not be a good thing for some of them lads.
The thing that disappointed me most about Sunday was the fear and lack of responsibility shown by most of the players.Nobody wanted the ball. Everybody was looking around for somebody else to do something. The overall negative tactics employed was a big factor in that though to be fair.
For example Paddy Carroll was involved in the move for the penalty where he ended up in front of the opposition goals. That was in the last minute. How come it took 70 mins for us to say 'Damn this we have nothing to lose, we might as well attack''? What was said at Half Time? Cavan definitely didnt come out in the 2nd half like a team busting to get at it and determined to take Donegal on and go man for man with them. The management have to take some responsibility there. We set up with 1 maybe 2 sweepers again at the start of the 2nd half when we were 6 points down and with a wind at our backs. What in the name of God was the thinking there?
Compare that negative attitude to the Minor footballer Mc Brearty who IMO was close to MOTM. He played with no fear and always wanted the ball. 
Cavan are not near as bad as they showed on Sunday but the management have to start playing to our strengths and quit worrying about the opposition.
Title: Division 3 league 2011
Post by: footy15 on June 16, 2011, 04:44:58 PM
Mountnugent top of table and Corlough bottom but funny enough Mountnugent got bet by a point by Corlough last Friday.
Title: Re: Division 3 league 2011
Post by: Denn Forever on June 16, 2011, 08:59:35 PM
Its a conspiracy!

Title: Re: Division 3 league 2011
Post by: boojangles on June 16, 2011, 10:00:24 PM
Ya may get on to Whatsmyname and find out whats going on. I wonder were there any peculiar betting patterns for this game. Betfair could be launching an investigation.
Title: Re: Division 3 league 2011
Post by: footy15 on June 16, 2011, 10:44:32 PM
Ye ,
Title: Re: Division 3 league 2011
Post by: whats my name on June 16, 2011, 10:54:07 PM
Eh about that mishap we were missing 7 from the last game against killdallon plus we had the just turn up and beat these syndrom as they were playing so bad and had gotten beaten the week previous by the guts of 20 points
Title: Re: Division 3 league 2011
Post by: footy15 on June 17, 2011, 01:46:27 PM
I also heard Corlough missing 5 or 6 players and far from there strogest team.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: PhilsJemmysField on June 17, 2011, 03:58:48 PM
Murphy has got off with his red card which was only right.  So far at least the panel have stuck together and no defections so lets hope we can be positive about Saturday week
Title: Re: Division 3 league 2011
Post by: Westside on June 18, 2011, 12:32:53 AM
Corlough's best player Martin Cassidy quit a few weeks ago and they were missing their fullback Joe Prior, they work with the bare minimum of players most well past retiring but don't want to quit as they won't be able to field a team, they won this game after sacking their manager and losing every single game before this and they STILL managed to get the bit between their teeth and get back a 6 point deficit to the top team in the group. It's a testament to the lads involved that they can even field a team never mind win up in Mountnugent no matter how many players Mountnugent were missing.
Title: Re: Division 3 league 2011
Post by: mylestheslasher on June 18, 2011, 11:01:39 AM
Quote from: Westside on June 18, 2011, 12:32:53 AM
Corlough's best player Martin Cassidy quit a few weeks ago and they were missing their fullback Joe Prior, they work with the bare minimum of players most well past retiring but don't want to quit as they won't be able to field a team, they won this game after sacking their manager and losing every single game before this and they STILL managed to get the bit between their teeth and get back a 6 point deficit to the top team in the group. It's a testament to the lads involved that they can even field a team never mind win up in Mountnugent no matter how many players Mountnugent were missing.

At the best of times Corlough would have struggled for numbers but this recession & emigration must really be tightening teams like Corlough. I wonder how long will it be before some team has to fold?
Title: Re: Division 3 league 2011
Post by: boojangles on June 18, 2011, 11:23:36 AM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on June 18, 2011, 11:01:39 AM
Quote from: Westside on June 18, 2011, 12:32:53 AM
Corlough's best player Martin Cassidy quit a few weeks ago and they were missing their fullback Joe Prior, they work with the bare minimum of players most well past retiring but don't want to quit as they won't be able to field a team, they won this game after sacking their manager and losing every single game before this and they STILL managed to get the bit between their teeth and get back a 6 point deficit to the top team in the group. It's a testament to the lads involved that they can even field a team never mind win up in Mountnugent no matter how many players Mountnugent were missing.

At the best of times Corlough would have struggled for numbers but this recession & emigration must really be tightening teams like Corlough. I wonder how long will it be before some team has to fold?

Fair play to clubs like this who keep on going in what I'm sure are seriously tough times. The facilities in Corlough are a credit to the whole area and probably a clear sign that the club has no intentions of folding. I don't know how many they have lost since the downturn but I'm sure it's been alot more than most clubs.
Our Reserve team has been given the points twice this year by clubs not fit to field a reserve team. This problem is only going to get worse and it may the beginning of the end for some clubs.
We probably all have debated about the merits of having less clubs in the county and the advantages of clubs amalgamating but lets be honest nobody would like to be in a position where you basically have to up sticks and join with the nearest larger club. I feel all clubs should be given as much support as is possible to keep them running and competing. Your club after all is your identity.
Title: Re: Division 3 league 2011
Post by: footy15 on June 18, 2011, 01:19:16 PM
Will Corlough be fit for Templeport today?
Title: Re: Division 3 league 2011
Post by: Westside on June 18, 2011, 02:55:04 PM
Corlough have a core group of maybe 16 lads, then a few locals that will throw on a jersey and play if needs be. The strange thing is that emmigration hasn't hit them nearly as hard as Kildallan (worst hit in West Cavan by far) and Templeport. It would be a real pity to see them fold especially with the facilities they have, the older lads and the lads in their 20's simply wouldn't amalgamate with Templeport or Swad, they'd sooner not play. I still think Corlough will hold on and field a team for a few years yet.

Can't see them beating Templeport tonight, TP have been playing well under Gerry Flanagan (former Leitrim player) and TP have beaten Corlough well in the past few meetings, but as always with Junior you can never be sure.
Title: Re: Division 3 league 2011
Post by: footy15 on June 18, 2011, 03:17:09 PM
If you could keep Mcmanus quiet , maybe Corlough could a have a slight chance but i cant see them winning it
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on June 18, 2011, 03:55:51 PM
Cavan Minors got a serious hammering against Dublin in a challenge yesterday.. Alan O'Mara tweeted about it. 6-8 to 0-7 I think, he commented on how much bigger the Dublin players were, Cavan outmuscled all over the field.
Title: Best club pitch in county
Post by: footy15 on June 18, 2011, 04:54:07 PM
is it templeport, kildallon, corlough or maybe cornafean
Title: Re: Best club pitch in county
Post by: mylestheslasher on June 18, 2011, 08:50:38 PM
Have  you seen Killeshandras new pitch yet?

Cornafean??
Title: Re: Division 3 league 2011
Post by: Westside on June 18, 2011, 10:02:52 PM
Corlough ground out a 2 point win over Templeport through sheer force of will this evening. They may not have much talent, even for Junior, but I have rarely seen a team with such a stomach for a dogfight. Fair play to them.
Kieran McManus remains the best forward in West Cavan, deserves a go on the Cavan Juniors.
Title: Re: Division 3 league 2011
Post by: footy15 on June 18, 2011, 10:08:26 PM
Quote from: Westside on June 18, 2011, 10:02:52 PM
Corlough ground out a 2 point win over Templeport through sheer force of will this evening. They may not have much talent, even for Junior, but I have rarely seen a team with such a stomach for a dogfight. Fair play to them.
Kieran McManus remains the best forward in West Cavan, deserves a go on the Cavan Juniors.
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Mc manus was in panel for a while, .



Where at the game
Quote from: Westside on June 18, 2011, 10:02:52 PM
Corlough ground out a 2 point win over Templeport through sheer force of will this evening. They may not have much talent, even for Junior, but I have rarely seen a team with such a stomach for a dogfight. Fair play to them.
Kieran McManus remains the best forward in West Cavan, deserves a go on the Cavan Juniors.


Corlough played all the football in the second half , after being level at half time
Title: Re: Division 3 league 2011
Post by: footy15 on June 18, 2011, 10:23:35 PM
Anyone at the Corlough v Templeport game
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dougal on June 19, 2011, 05:32:36 PM
ive lost all hope for cavan football,a lad just called up to the county minors,missing training this morning cos he was still drunk and 1 of the seniors, full in the pub at 2 today.is there 15 players in the county that can stay off the beer for a couple of weeks?
Title: Re: Division 3 league 2011
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on June 19, 2011, 05:44:13 PM
Quote from: Westside on June 18, 2011, 12:32:53 AM
Corlough's best player Martin Cassidy quit a few weeks ago and they were missing their fullback Joe Prior, they work with the bare minimum of players most well past retiring but don't want to quit as they won't be able to field a team, they won this game after sacking their manager and losing every single game before this and they STILL managed to get the bit between their teeth and get back a 6 point deficit to the top team in the group. It's a testament to the lads involved that they can even field a team never mind win up in Mountnugent no matter how many players Mountnugent were missing.

Its a terror,my own club is exactly the opposite,over 45 players have played League football between the 3 teams so far this year,and lads whom would be decent enough but became disillusioned over being told not even to bother togging out for the seniors by the previous management team.
We lost 1 to Emigration this year and 3/4 whom couldnt be bothered anymore.
Corlough and Maghera are a credit to their communities,battling away with such a small pick.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on June 19, 2011, 05:55:35 PM
Division One is very interesting this year, Very competitive and it bodes well for an exciting senior championship.


Team................. Played Won Lost Drawn Points For Points Against Points Diff Points
Redhills................ 10..... 7 .....1 .....2 .........148.......... 144 ...............4....... 16
Ramor United....... 10..... 7...... 3 ....0 ..........150.......... 118............. 32....... 14
Ballinagh ............... 9..... 6...... 2.... 1 ..........158.......... 123............. 35....... 13
Mullahoran.......... 10 ......6..... 4 .....0.......... 115.......... 101............. 14....... 12
Kingscourt........... 10 ......5..... 4..... 1 ...........140.......... 115............. 25....... 11
Cavan Gaels........ 10.......5..... 4..... 1 ...........159.......... 147............. 12....... 11
Gowna ..................9 .......4 ....3..... 2........... 117.......... 111............... 6....... 10
Castlerahan ......... 9 .......4..... 3..... 2.......... 123.......... 119............... 4........ 10
Lacken ................ 9 .......3..... 4..... 2 ..........120.......... 133............ -13.......... 8
Cuchullains........ 10....... 4..... 6..... 0.......... 133.......... 149............ -16.......... 8
Drumlane.......... 10....... 3...... 5.... 2........... 109......... 135............ -26.......... 8
Killygarry.......... 10....... 3...... 6.... 1........... 128......... 142............ -14.......... 7
Belturbet............ 9....... 3....... 5... 1............ 101......... 117............ -16......... 7
Ballyhaise.......... 9........ 2.......5... 2............ 103......... 115............ -12......... 6
Lavey................ 9........ 2.......5... 2............ 105......... 119............ -14......... 6
Killeshandra....... 9........ 2......6.... 1............ 119......... 140............ -21......... 5
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on June 19, 2011, 06:09:50 PM
Quote from: Dougal on June 19, 2011, 05:32:36 PM
ive lost all hope for cavan football,a lad just called up to the county minors,missing training this morning cos he was still drunk and 1 of the seniors, full in the pub at 2 today.is there 15 players in the county that can stay off the beer for a couple of weeks?

Jaysus...
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on June 19, 2011, 07:38:23 PM
Quote from: Celt_Man on June 19, 2011, 06:09:50 PM
Quote from: Dougal on June 19, 2011, 05:32:36 PM
ive lost all hope for cavan football,a lad just called up to the county minors,missing training this morning cos he was still drunk and 1 of the seniors, full in the pub at 2 today.is there 15 players in the county that can stay off the beer for a couple of weeks?

Jaysus...

I met one of the Minors out last Sunday night, thoughts of a game against Tyrone seemed the furthest thing from his mind.. Lets hope it's the same lad.. If our MINOR teams can't adhere to drinking bans, or need them in the first place, then we will rightly never win anything again.

Tyrone/Longford double looks like a good bet so...
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on June 19, 2011, 08:46:36 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on June 19, 2011, 05:55:35 PM
Division One is very interesting this year, Very competitive and it bodes well for an exciting senior championship.


Team................. Played Won Lost Drawn Points For Points Against Points Diff Points
Redhills................ 10..... 7 .....1 .....2 .........148.......... 144 ...............4....... 16
Ramor United....... 10..... 7...... 3 ....0 ..........150.......... 118............. 32....... 14
Ballinagh ............... 9..... 6...... 2.... 1 ..........158.......... 123............. 35....... 13
Mullahoran.......... 10 ......6..... 4 .....0.......... 115.......... 101............. 14....... 12
Kingscourt........... 10 ......5..... 4..... 1 ...........140.......... 115............. 25....... 11
Cavan Gaels........ 10.......5..... 4..... 1 ...........159.......... 147............. 12....... 11
Gowna ..................9 .......4 ....3..... 2........... 117.......... 111............... 6....... 10
Castlerahan ......... 9 .......4..... 3..... 2.......... 123.......... 119............... 4........ 10
Lacken ................ 9 .......3..... 4..... 2 ..........120.......... 133............ -13.......... 8
Cuchullains........ 10....... 4..... 6..... 0.......... 133.......... 149............ -16.......... 8
Drumlane.......... 10....... 3...... 5.... 2........... 109......... 135............ -26.......... 8
Killygarry.......... 10....... 3...... 6.... 1........... 128......... 142............ -14.......... 7
Belturbet............ 9....... 3....... 5... 1............ 101......... 117............ -16......... 7
Ballyhaise.......... 9........ 2.......5... 2............ 103......... 115............ -12......... 6
Lavey................ 9........ 2.......5... 2............ 105......... 119............ -14......... 6
Killeshandra....... 9........ 2......6.... 1............ 119......... 140............ -21......... 5

I was down at the Ballyhaise Killeshandra game on Saturday. A good 2nd half performance by ye. We are in big trouble this year. Between injury, suspensions and lads travelling I believe we were short 15 players that would be in the 1st team panel, hence the extremely small and light team we put out. Cullivan was very good at midfield. How McCrudden stayed on the field is beyond me and how that guy in black passes as a referee is also beyond me. Well done BHM anyway.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on June 20, 2011, 09:50:14 AM
Come on the lads.

From Hoganstand.

Leinster junior final switched
15 June 2011

The 2011 Leinster JFC final between Cavan and Kildare has been switched to July 6th.

The rearrangement comes through mutual agreement by the two counties and following consultation with Leinster Council.

The provincial final will now take place on the Wednesday night at 7.30 pm in Newbridge.

Extra time will be played if necessary. If the teams are still level after extra time, the replay will be on July 13th.
Title: Re: Division 3 league 2011
Post by: cavan4sam on June 20, 2011, 01:18:02 PM
Especially Maghera when you consider that lads that actually live there have been playing their football with Ramor, the Coles, the Monaghans, James McEnroe. If all those lads were playing with Maghera they would probably be a half decent team!!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: PhilsJemmysField on June 20, 2011, 05:12:02 PM
So holy god Ballyhaise have that young lad McCrudden back at Full Forward. Also then it seems our Minors have no manners. I think we are back in the Nineteen Nineties
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BigMac on June 21, 2011, 02:01:56 PM
Anyone got any inside information on team news for the weekend? It will be interesting to see if Terry and Val  stick with the youth or revert back to the older lads. it is a tough call in my opinion, the youth didn't do the business last day out, but the old boys haven't done the business for the last 5 years, but a bit of experience is hard to beat. I would expect to see Brennan and Dermot Sheridan in, provided both are fit, with Brennan replacing Cullivan and Sheridan replacing Carroll? Any other opinions?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on June 21, 2011, 03:03:28 PM
Quote from: BigMac on June 21, 2011, 02:01:56 PM
Anyone got any inside information on team news for the weekend? It will be interesting to see if Terry and Val  stick with the youth or revert back to the older lads. it is a tough call in my opinion, the youth didn't do the business last day out, but the old boys haven't done the business for the last 5 years, but a bit of experience is hard to beat. I would expect to see Brennan and Dermot Sheridan in, provided both are fit, with Brennan replacing Cullivan and Sheridan replacing Carroll? Any other opinions?

I would like to see Gareth Smith in for Lyng and Mackey and Brennan starting or brought in early if things are not going right up front.  I think Brennan always gets hard done by when it come to championship and is worth his place on that team.  Also if Johnston is winning no ball inside/not trying he should be moved out to the half forward line to try get into the game more.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on June 21, 2011, 03:07:05 PM
Give the young lads a chance. 

Unfortunately the only experience the more senior players have is flattering to deceive.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on June 21, 2011, 03:22:01 PM
Would the team not be announced until closer to the game because it's a qualifier?

I'd bring in McKeever and Brennan and maybe McEnroe if fit.. No more changes than that though. Longford will be very hard to beat and are way above us in the level of Championship performances they have reached. They have put up great battles against Kerry and Down and even beat Mayo last year. Barden and Kavanagh will be hard to contain..
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on June 21, 2011, 04:20:50 PM
Quote from: Denn Forever on June 21, 2011, 03:07:05 PM
Give the young lads a chance. 

Unfortunately the only experience the more senior players have is flattering to deceive.

They got their chance and to many off them were starting.

Time to get a little bit more experience into the team.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on June 21, 2011, 04:53:33 PM
Quote from: Denn Forever on June 21, 2011, 03:07:05 PM
Give the young lads a chance. 

Unfortunately the only experience the more senior players have is flattering to deceive.

Unfortunately this attitude is far too prevalent in Cavan at the moment, even among the management obviously.
There are some examples to back up the above statement DennForever but a sweeping generalisation of all our Senior players is wrong and ignores the facts.
Keith Fannin has been playing with Cavan since 2005. He played corner back on the Cavan team that took eventual All- Ireland winners Tyrone to a replay that year. If memory serves me well I believe he marked one Peter Canavan that day. He has played at corner back on numerous Championship teams since and IMO he has very rarely let Cavan down. He is 28 this year and pound for pound one of the best all round footballers in Cavan. He is versatile and can play in numerous positions. I believe he scored 1-5 last Wednesday for Drumgoon from Centre-Forward.

Mickey Brennan has played a grand total of 3 Championship games for Cavan. He was top scorer against Donegal after playing EIGHT minutes football. He was outstanding last year against Wicklow when moved out around the middle of the field and he was arguably Cavans best forward in his other championship appearance against Fermanagh last year, scoring 2 points in the first half before being replaced. ::) Mickey is 31 and time is not on his side but he is playing as well as ever and he was the difference between the 2 teams in Terry Coyle park on Saturday evening, scoring 1-4. Another man who can play in numerous positions.

Mark Mc Keever has been playing with Cavan since 2003. He is 27. He has been tried in many positions over the years but his best position for Cavan is at half back. A superb carrier of the ball who can ride a tackle brilliantly. He has struggled for form lately due to injuries but he has rarely let Cavan down on the big day and was very effective when introduced against Donegal.

I'm all for giving youth a chance but lets do it sensibly. If the management think that lads at 27 or 28 are too old then I may also hang up the boots. In truth these lads should only be peaking and have that priceless advantage of experience.
Saturday night is not going to be easy but it is a game we can win if we play our strongest team. Have Terry and Val stopped watching club football or were they ever watching it because some lads playing against Donegal do not even stand out playing for their clubs.

I don't think there will be many changes but heres the team I would go with.

1. Miller
2. Mc Enroe
3. Corr
4. Fannin
5. Mc Keever
6. Mc Cutcheon
7. Damien Reilly
8. Givney
9. Mc Kiernan
10. Keating
11. Lyng
12. Nesty
13. Mc Dermott
14. Johnston
15. Brennan

I don't like switching boys around too much but we need to do something with the Full-back line and IMO Keith Fannin is still our best option of a man marker. Let him pick Kavanagh up. If not him then I'd bring in Martin Cahill. Tomas Corr played the whole league at Full-Back and is the best option we have for Full Back IMO. A toss up between Dermot Sheridan and Mc Enroe for the other corner.
The half back line picks itself IMO. Mc Keever will know plenty of the Longford boys and will be eager to impress.
Mc Cutcheon and Damien Reilly did enough the last day to warrant selection again.
Givney and Mc Kiernan are the future but they have to work out a system of one man attacking and one man defending. Givney has the quickest hands I have ever seen but they are no use when he is soloing into 3 or 4 defenders.
I'm eating my own words but I think BH Man etc may be right about Keating. I seen him against Belturbet last week and he can do damage out around the middle with his strength alone. I also believe he destroyed Eamon Reilly against the Gaels on Saturday evening when moved to the 40. I would push Keating closer to the midfield to help out leaving room for Lyng and Nesty in the Half forward line.
Mickey Lyng deserves another chance IMO. Lots will disagree with me but I think he can come good.
Along with Lyng we need men who can pick out a pass and make sure our Full Forward line gets enough ball.
Mc Dermott was the best of the young lads the last day and was on a very tough customer. Would love to see him bring a right foot into his game as he has great strength and he knows where the goals are.
I don't think Longford have anybody who can mark Jelly if he gets good service. He needs to be disciplined and stay inside where he is dangerous.
Brennan can bring strength but also energy to the FF line. He always wants the ball and is playing with lots of confidence to put it on the scoreboard. Can switch with any of the midfielders or Keating if needs be and is the best long range free taker in the county( if given the chance).
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on June 21, 2011, 06:01:01 PM
QuoteI'm all for giving youth a chance but lets do it sensibly.

Exactly and I when I hear we need experienced players, I ask myself what does that mean?  The McKenna Cup and League seem to have decided nothing.  Players seemed to have been picked on reputation and not on form.

Longford's best players are Bardon and Kavanagh.  What tactics need to be used to neutalise their effectiveness?  Kavanagh is going to stay close to the square so Full Back and Cornerback will have to work together.  Midfield will  have to work hard to stop the long ball to Kavanagh.  Who picks up Bardon?

Whatever happens I hope we give it a good rattle on Saturday.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on June 21, 2011, 07:03:01 PM
I agree with what you say boojangles, only difference I would make is to leave Carroll at fb, I think we need to give him a chance to develop in the role. We need to beat longford to try and keep the heads up it we risk losing the psychological gains we made in the u21s.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on June 21, 2011, 07:55:24 PM
Paul Barden and kavanagh are two very good forwards, but its not just them two lads who can score, Francis Mc gee is a very good player as is Sean McCormack and Paddy Dowd all excellent forwards who are all comfortable on the ball. I agree about Mickey Brennan , he should have been starting the last day, strong player who can score and use the ball well. Mckeever should be starting this week aswell, better half back than damien reilly.. I'm surprised Declan Mckiernan hasn't been involved with Cavan this year, he didn't feature with cavan juniors either so maybe he isn't interested.. :-\
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dougal on June 22, 2011, 01:21:53 PM
id agree with ya on just about everything there boojangles.

according to the celt,james reilly,givney,nesty and fergal flanagan are all injured.with cullivan out aswell half the team could change from the last day.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on June 22, 2011, 01:38:31 PM
Good post Booj.. Hard to disagree with any of that, balanced and fair analysis.

With Givney and Cullivan out Midfield options become short indeed. Lets hope Givney makes it. Brennan and McKiernan or Keating if not?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BigMac on June 22, 2011, 01:50:06 PM
Someone with something to do with the Celt is either reading this board, or reading my mind! I asked a wee while ago how many players we had used in championship football in the last 5 or 6 years and someone (can't remember who), gave me a list of all the teams used in the last 5 or 6 years. The Celt have gone a bit further and calculated it for 11 years, and in those 11 years we have used 67 players in chapionship football. Unbelievable statistic. If you counted league, and McKenna cup, we would be well over 100 players I'd imagine.
http://www.anglocelt.ie/sport/gaelicfootball/articles/2011/06/16/4004965-cavan-hand-out-debuts-to-67-players-in-11-seasons/
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on June 22, 2011, 02:36:07 PM
Bigmac i knew well that would appear in the Celt.

The sports editor used to be a regular enough poster here.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Ollie on June 22, 2011, 09:31:02 PM
I was a little disappointed to read Terry Hylands comments in the Celt. He didn't seem too optimistic about winning on Saturday nor did he give the supporters any reason to seem hopeful. He spoke about how they are building a team for 2012 and looking towards promotion from Div 3 which is all well and good but you can't seriously expect to achieve promotion in less then 12 months time if you're unable to beat Longford at home in the present time. I think the fact that they've only had one training session in the last week says a lot.
I think regardless of club games being on, There should have been some sort of training session in the immediate aftermath of the Donegal game to at least Discuss were it went wrong and what can be improved in the short term in order to compete sufficiently against Longford. I understand that Terry & Val are putting a team together for the future and I think they've done reasonably well up to now but I think the biggest thing missing from Cavan Teams in recent years is a work ethic and winning mentality within the team. That's something that needs to be installed in the players now and It won't be achieved by poor preparation before an important Qualifier game. The last thing we need is a another soul destroying defeat by a team ranked below us in the league. Fail to prepare then prepare to fail.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on June 22, 2011, 11:03:34 PM
No sign of a team yet lads?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on June 22, 2011, 11:20:31 PM
I was also unimpressed with both Hyland and Andrews not taking some responsibility for the complete disaster that were their tactics against donegal. It was all about players and now young they were etc etc. I wonder, nervously, what influence king has in that setup?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Breffni_Yank on June 23, 2011, 12:50:08 AM
Quote from: Ollie on June 22, 2011, 09:31:02 PM
I was a little disappointed to read Terry Hylands comments in the Celt. He didn't seem too optimistic about winning on Saturday nor did he give the supporters any reason to seem hopeful. He spoke about how they are building a team for 2012 and looking towards promotion from Div 3 which is all well and good but you can't seriously expect to achieve promotion in less then 12 months time if you're unable to beat Longford at home in the present time. I think the fact that they've only had one training session in the last week says a lot.
I think regardless of club games being on, There should have been some sort of training session in the immediate aftermath of the Donegal game to at least Discuss were it went wrong and what can be improved in the short term in order to compete sufficiently against Longford. I understand that Terry & Val are putting a team together for the future and I think they've done reasonably well up to now but I think the biggest thing missing from Cavan Teams in recent years is a work ethic and winning mentality within the team. That's something that needs to be installed in the players now and It won't be achieved by poor preparation before an important Qualifier game. The last thing we need is a another soul destroying defeat by a team ranked below us in the league. Fail to prepare then prepare to fail.

The u21's this year seemed to naturally have that, a genuine passion and hunger to fight for each other and it clearly showed. I don't know how many times I saw Jack Brady or Niall McDermott causing a turnover and even I remember against Dongeal there was a big goal mouth scramble and two or three defenders were straight in behind the keeper as they scrambled it clear between them. You just got the impression that they would back each other for the hilt

Watching the senior team against Donegal did anyone else get the feeling that there is no spark between the group or a collective sense of togetherness. How many times did we just let Donegal stroll up the pitch without putting in a tackle or even attempting to?

I know most of the u21 team is nowhere near senior IC yet and no more than 5 of them should be playing but what did they do that was so different? Where did they get this work ethic from? Was it Hyland? If so, why cant he get it out of the seniors?

PS Myles, is King really that clueless?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on June 23, 2011, 08:13:14 AM
Quote from: Breffni_Yank on June 23, 2011, 12:50:08 AM


PS Myles, is King really that clueless?

From talking to a few lads from Ballymachugh i would say yes.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on June 23, 2011, 10:42:19 AM
Quote from: Ollie on June 22, 2011, 09:31:02 PM
I was a little disappointed to read Terry Hylands comments in the Celt. He didn't seem too optimistic about winning on Saturday nor did he give the supporters any reason to seem hopeful. He spoke about how they are building a team for 2012 and looking towards promotion from Div 3 which is all well and good but you can't seriously expect to achieve promotion in less then 12 months time if you're unable to beat Longford at home in the present time. I think the fact that they've only had one training session in the last week says a lot.
I think regardless of club games being on, There should have been some sort of training session in the immediate aftermath of the Donegal game to at least Discuss were it went wrong and what can be improved in the short term in order to compete sufficiently against Longford. I understand that Terry & Val are putting a team together for the future and I think they've done reasonably well up to now but I think the biggest thing missing from Cavan Teams in recent years is a work ethic and winning mentality within the team. That's something that needs to be installed in the players now and It won't be achieved by poor preparation before an important Qualifier game. The last thing we need is a another soul destroying defeat by a team ranked below us in the league. Fail to prepare then prepare to fail.

They met up the Tuesday after the Donegal game.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: PhilsJemmysField on June 23, 2011, 12:33:43 PM
There was a "mind" doctor involved in the U21 setup. Not sure if he is involved in the senior setup. In fairness getting the experienced lads to gel with the new boys coming in is a different task to getting an underage team bonding. Hopefully Hyland is trying to set expectations low while doing the work in the background.  Still hopeful that at the very least we had no defections which shows that they are are starting to work as one unit with one set of goals. Still looking forward to the weekend and with the introduction of a little bit of class. Would be a big advocate for Fannin as well. We can get over this hurdle if we are smart with the ball so we need to push up on them and force the game to be played in their half.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: full moon on June 23, 2011, 04:52:49 PM
I dont like all this 2012 talk either, Saturday is a must win game. At the moment I dont care about 2012 and nor does anyone else. If we cant beat Longford now, I dont expect a big improvement next year.

And surely if we lose Saturday they may not even be the managers next year? There will be a fair few people calling for a new manager next year if we lose Saturday.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on June 23, 2011, 07:05:20 PM
Quote from: full moon on June 23, 2011, 04:52:49 PM
I dont like all this 2012 talk either, Saturday is a must win game. At the moment I dont care about 2012 and nor does anyone else. If we cant beat Longford now, I dont expect a big improvement next year.

And surely if we lose Saturday they may not even be the managers next year? There will be a fair few people calling for a new manager next year if we lose Saturday.

As someone said earlier they seem to be making excuses already which isnt a good sign. 
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on June 23, 2011, 10:26:21 PM
Quote from: tommysmith on June 23, 2011, 07:05:20 PM
Quote from: full moon on June 23, 2011, 04:52:49 PM
I dont like all this 2012 talk either, Saturday is a must win game. At the moment I dont care about 2012 and nor does anyone else. If we cant beat Longford now, I dont expect a big improvement next year.

And surely if we lose Saturday they may not even be the managers next year? There will be a fair few people calling for a new manager next year if we lose Saturday.

I hope all this talk of next year is a clever ploy to keep the pressure of the players and not stupid loose talk which puts players at a psychological disadvantage

As someone said earlier they seem to be making excuses already which isnt a good sign.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on June 24, 2011, 11:23:54 AM
Maybe James could ask his Uncle to come on board to get their minds right?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on June 24, 2011, 11:28:40 AM
Quote from: Denn Forever on June 24, 2011, 11:23:54 AM
Maybe James could ask his Uncle to come on board to get their minds right?
(http://content.artofmanliness.com/uploads/2008/11/roger-moore-james-bond-c10102569.jpeg)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4sam on June 24, 2011, 11:55:53 AM
That man has trouble getting his own head right never mind the minds of 30 young lads!!!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on June 24, 2011, 12:08:02 PM
Quote from: Denn Forever on June 24, 2011, 11:23:54 AM
Maybe James could ask his Uncle to come on board to get their minds right?

James Mc Enroe?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on June 24, 2011, 12:15:11 PM
Yip be could we trust a Meathman?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dougal on June 24, 2011, 12:16:49 PM
any team named yet?wouldnt mind seeing the longford one if its named either.

not very confident about this match,a lot of people saying if we cant beat longford at home then theres no hope for us.longford are a very good team.won div 4 against a good ros side who are in the connacht final,were very close to beating laois (who did well in div2 this year) after kicking close to 15 wides,beat mayo last year,only lost to down by 4 points in newry (how much did we lose to the other AI finalists by?),lost to louth by a point,and i think that was after louth beat kildare,so louth had plenty of momentum going into that game.longford are on the up and no one seems to notice.

that might sound negative,but its realistic.it'll take an enormus effort from all the players to win this.id be a lot happier with a win tomorrow than i would be with a win over a lot of div 3 teams.

Denn,who is his uncle?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on June 24, 2011, 12:28:50 PM
Quote from: Dougal on June 24, 2011, 12:16:49 PM
Denn,who is his uncle?

They are on about Bart McEnroe
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on June 24, 2011, 12:29:48 PM
Longford - D Sheridan; D Brady, B Gilleran, D Reilly; S Mulligan, K Diffley, N Farrell; B McElvanney, M Brady; D Barden, D Masterson, P Barden (captain); D McElligott, B Kavanagh, S McCormack.

Cavan team hasn't been announced yet
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on June 24, 2011, 12:34:36 PM
Yes Bart.

http://www.meathchronicle.ie/news/fightingback/articles/2009/11/18/3992926-mind-over-matter/print

Although they have talked to him before but did they listen?

http://coaching.cavan.gaa.ie/files/Bart%20McEnroe.pdf
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on June 24, 2011, 12:45:59 PM
Taken over from the Division 3 thread... probably better suited to here anyway

Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on June 19, 2011, 05:44:13 PM
Quote from: Westside on June 18, 2011, 12:32:53 AM
Corlough's best player Martin Cassidy quit a few weeks ago and they were missing their fullback Joe Prior, they work with the bare minimum of players most well past retiring but don't want to quit as they won't be able to field a team, they won this game after sacking their manager and losing every single game before this and they STILL managed to get the bit between their teeth and get back a 6 point deficit to the top team in the group. It's a testament to the lads involved that they can even field a team never mind win up in Mountnugent no matter how many players Mountnugent were missing.

Its a terror,my own club is exactly the opposite,over 45 players have played League football between the 3 teams so far this year,and lads whom would be decent enough but became disillusioned over being told not even to bother togging out for the seniors by the previous management team.
We lost 1 to Emigration this year and 3/4 whom couldnt be bothered anymore.
Corlough and Maghera are a credit to their communities,battling away with such a small pick.

Jaysus that's mental.  I've always marvelled at Ballyhaise being able to field 3 league teams.  In fairness you wouldn't automatically come to mind as having a huge pick so that's a far achievement.  Having successful Minor and U21 teams would have helped but you must have some retention of players.  When you look at a team like the Gaels, won 10/11 out of 12 Minor Championships, you would think if they even kept 40% of those teams playing they would easily have a third team operating.

I beginning to feel that alamagamtions can be a dangerous thing in some ways.  When, like ourselves last year at Minor level, a club only has a handful of players an amalgamation is a very useful thing but when you look at the likes of Kingscourt winning a MFL title and then amalgamating for the Championship - surely that isn't encouraging boys to stick at it and keep playing.

Imagine being a 17 year old playing on a MFL winning team then maybe not getting a look-in at championship time, how willing or dedicated would you be when your club came calling next January for a Minor League back on your own??
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on June 24, 2011, 12:47:57 PM
Quote from: Denn Forever on June 24, 2011, 12:34:36 PM
Yes Bart.

http://www.meathchronicle.ie/news/fightingback/articles/2009/11/18/3992926-mind-over-matter/print

Although they have talked to him before but did they listen?

http://coaching.cavan.gaa.ie/files/Bart%20McEnroe.pdf

I heard he was in chatting to the Development Squad Coaches sometime earlier in the year
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on June 24, 2011, 01:06:13 PM
Quote from: Denn Forever on June 24, 2011, 12:15:11 PM
Yip be could we trust a Meathman?

Bart?? didnt know of that connection.
Mickey Harte spoke highly of him.
He wouldn't be everybodys cup of tea.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dougal on June 24, 2011, 01:07:37 PM
Quote from: boojangles on June 24, 2011, 01:06:13 PM
Quote from: Denn Forever on June 24, 2011, 12:15:11 PM
Yip be could we trust a Meathman?

Bart?? didnt know of that connection.
Mickey Harte spoke highly of him.
He wouldn't be everybodys cup of tea.
who,mickey or bart?  ;)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on June 24, 2011, 01:15:17 PM
Quote from: Dougal on June 24, 2011, 01:07:37 PM
Quote from: boojangles on June 24, 2011, 01:06:13 PM
Quote from: Denn Forever on June 24, 2011, 12:15:11 PM
Yip be could we trust a Meathman?

Bart?? didnt know of that connection.
Mickey Harte spoke highly of him.
He wouldn't be everybodys cup of tea.
who,mickey or bart?  ;)

Ha ha. We'l not get into it!
Tony Brady first brought Bart about nearly 10 years ago. He was probably ahead of his time with his thinking. He was trying to get through to some lads back then and if he was still there today he wouldn't have got through to them.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on June 24, 2011, 10:20:29 PM
JO'Reilly.MCahill.TCorr.DO'Dowd.MMcKeever.JMcCutcheon.DO'Reilly.DGivney.GMcKiernan.FFlanagan.MLyng.NMurray.NMcDermott.EKeating.SJohnston. Cn V Ld Sat 5pm
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on June 24, 2011, 11:03:00 PM
The groundsman on HS is making noises that this won't be the team to start, he says Flanagan will go to Corner back instead of O'Dowd and Damian O'Reilly will not play. I hope that's not the case.. The team named has just the right balance of changes without ruining players confidence.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on June 24, 2011, 11:18:45 PM
Quote from: Westside on June 24, 2011, 11:03:00 PM
The groundsman on HS is making noises that this won't be the team to start, he says Flanagan will go to Corner back instead of O'Dowd and Damian O'Reilly will not play. I hope that's not the case.. The team named has just the right balance of changes without ruining players confidence.

That groundsman would sicken a body's arse
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on June 24, 2011, 11:22:19 PM
Not the right team. New backline.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on June 25, 2011, 07:11:19 PM
Didnt even stay for the Louth/Meath game
That was a f**king disgrace.

1. Starting a clearly unfit Niall Murray,whose man Shane Mulligan done a sight of harm.

2. Giving Michael Brady his debut marking one of the best players in the country,Paul Barden who done a sight of harm.

Yet you leave one of the most in-form players players in the county,Keith Fannin on the bench.
McKiernan and Johnson's (2) bad missed in the first half from very scoreable positions were crucial with that gale force breeze,whereby Sean McCormack was kicking the frees over from 50 Metres plus.
Its was the difference between 0-10 0-06 up and 0-7 0-06 up at half time.
No Breaks again were won,until Longford scored their goal,then amazingly we managed to win some.
McKiernan and Givney won far more primary posession than Martin Brady and Bernard McElhinny,yet Cavan still lost.  ???
Mark McKeever was very good bar a few mistakes,as was James McEnroe who battled hard.
The biggest dissapointments on show were Lyng and Johnson whom were both non existant.
Eugene Keating was outstanding,kicking 0-4,but he got no ball in,in the second half.
Niall McDermott was very quiet.
Nesty's sending off was a joke of a decision.
I thought Tommy Corr done well on Brian Kavanagh overall,bar a few slips and fouls.
Martin Cahill and John McCutcheon didnt look anywhere approaching 100% fitness,so its hard to put too much blame on them.

There is obvious footballing ability within that squad,But Hyland and Andrews are NOT the management to bring out the best in that squad+Under 21's.
f**k sake, even Donal Keoghan and Tommy Carr managed to win at least one championship game,with a less talented group of players.
I hope Andrews and Hyland get the boot,because they havent a f**kin clue.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on June 25, 2011, 08:38:13 PM
That was hard to watch.. Cavan did well in the first half, a fair few scores came from turnovers and persistence, went 3 points down and upped the tempo and work rate to lead at half time. Keating was brilliant in the first half and so was McEnroe who looked very good at CHB.

The second half we let in the goal and just fell apart.. Mickey Brennan came on, kicked a wide with his first kick, to a Longford man with his next two resulting in two more Longford scores, and then got the ball 20 metres out at 4 points down and wouldn't take his point, pushed for a goal that wasn't there..
McCutcheon was poor, and Johnston was terrible. I didn't think Lyng was that bad myself, he certainly worked and tackled well and got a few turnovers. McDermot was a passenger and it just wasn't his day. Givney caught some nice ball at times.
Cavan just gave away free after free and McCormack kicked every single one over the bar. Our defence is just woeful..

The referee was brutal, as bad as I have seen. He worked himself into a frenzy in the last 15 minutes and almost every foul, literally, was a yellow card. There was hardly a dirty stroke yet Cavan ended with 13 players. He didn't beat us but he certainly didn't help the cause..
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on June 25, 2011, 08:44:53 PM
I think that's the end of me going to watch this Shite. The worst I have ever seen on the pitch and on the line. I will post more later but I will just say I have a worse view of that than even bhm above.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Swadman on June 26, 2011, 10:52:04 AM
Oh Dear.......
O sweet divine Jsssssssssssss
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on June 26, 2011, 11:21:52 AM
Ok - this is the "calmed down and slept on" it version of events...

That was the most gutless effort I have ever seen from a Cavan team in a lot of years following them. Just to be clear, we allowed LONGFORD to come into Breffni park and beat the crap out of us by 11 points, if it were 5/6 more it still would have been fair. AS BHM stated above, what in the name of god is the idea of putting a small U21 like Michael Brady marking Paul Barden - did they even know who Paul Barden is??? McEnroe started at corner back and got roasted for the first 15 minutes before being moved to half back. In fairness he played better picking up some breaks but thats only in relation to the other performances. Our midfiled pairing might have looked ok when catching a few nice balls but they have zero mobility and every break Longford got they powered through the middle. Lyng was atrocious in what he was there to do, create! Ok he turned the ball over a few times but he gave it away twice as many times. Keating was good and used his strength well and I thought Tom Corr played well considering he was totally isolated on Kavanagh. That brings me onto Captain Fantastic himself, hiding behind his man on the small square. The cavan team would get more inspiration watching Longford playing than looking to Johnston. Maybe he should stick to doing the interviews to the times, crying about how all his friends get to croke park and he doesn't. Two championship games and 1 point from play for Johnston - inspirational.

A couple of more general points...

Backs have no idea how to tackle. Longford kicked 20 wides in their first game against Laois so clearly not the most potent of forward lines. For me a back tries to get out in front or level and break the ball away. If he is going to be 2nd he must stay on his feet, shadow the forward from goal side and apply some pressure - ie make it difficult to shoot. This simple idea is missing from our guys who will run 20 yards to catch up to a forward and then drag him to the ground. What sort of f**king training is done with these lads?

Kick passing and hand passing were terrible. Longford didn't even bother with a mass defense or sweepers and we just kept kicking the ball to them. Have we just terrible players or again I ask what the hell are we doing in training?

Fitness. Have a look at Longfords 2nd goal. We gave the ball away and I watched 4 Longford players break from their own 45 sprint the whole pitch and the entire Cavan effort where 30 meters behind them when the got to our goal. 3 of their players were unmarked at that point. An absolute farce if lads are not even fit.

Physique. I know there are a lot of U21's in their but have a look at the other guys too. Who has a bit of muscle on them. Nesty (most likely from playing with a good Dublin club team), Keating and McCutcheon? Johnston is around a while and still a skinny little boy. Next time you see Laois play have a look at how they bulked up over the winter. Look at small players like Ross Munnelly and see the muscle he has put on. Our team cannot break tackles and because of this 80% of ball brought into contact is spilled. Another effect is that our attacks are easily slowed down as players are just held up too easily. Finally, in the age of blanket defense we have no hope of breaking it down without men who can break a tackle. Has anyone in the Cavan management even noticed this?

In summary there was no fight on the pitch and the management have a team that is so utterly un-prepared that it beggars belief. Make no mistake, we are now in the bottom 3 teams in Ireland with Fermanagh (but then they are missing effectively their whole team) and Kilkenny.

PS - If anyone would like to know what senior player was on the piss in Killeshandra until the early hours of last Saturday feel free to pm me - another joker that should be kicked to touch.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on June 26, 2011, 11:32:27 AM
Things are as bad.

Divison 3 and not  a hope of getting out off it.
Just do enough to stay in it each year but that will change shortly aswell.

Not 1 leader on pitch who will rally lads when things go bad, as soon as Longford went 3/4 up yesterday it was clear that they were going to go on and win.

No point in picking on individual players because as a team they are not good enough, some may perform better with a good team around them but in general they are all shite.

As for managment i dont know i dont think they have a clue but who would want to manage Cavan a team with no pride or fear of losing.

I'd say there will be a good session in Mackeys pub today maybe we should all land up and tell them what we thing off them. 

Just on the game and sorry for whinning on but did Cavan catch one ball at midfield yesterday in the first half, Longford were supposed to be poor at midfield and seemed to clean cavan out of it the whole half.


Just to finish off my rant it was good to see some of the lads had their hair looking well, the posing c***ts.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on June 26, 2011, 11:37:47 AM
Good posts myles.

The hoganstand even has some decent posts about cavan football if any of yas can be bothered.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on June 26, 2011, 12:59:19 PM
Two hammerings in two championship game is a disaster.. That defeat yesterday was probaly worse than against cork last year..Cork are a top team while longford are a bit closer to our standard.. I heard Martin Mchugh saying after the match that cavan had very few players playing yesterday of inter county standard and he is probaly right. I dont some of the u21s are even good enough for senior level.. Thought it couldn't get any worse than the tommy carr era but its proabaly as bad now. Under keoghan while not many rated him as a manager they worked hard and actually played some good football, The football being played under hyland/andrews has been shite pardon my french >:(
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up-again on June 26, 2011, 01:29:32 PM
I think i'll delete my account before I say something I regret......
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Breffni_Yank on June 26, 2011, 04:44:24 PM
Where do you start. Hammered at home twice in the championship. No game plan. No particular style of football. No leadership.

The difference between watching the u21 team play and the seniors is frightening. At least they tried and looked like they wanted to play with each other.

What did Val say after the game to justify that?

By the way, thought we looked less fit than Longford as well. Would love to know what is going on at training. Do they practice tackling at all?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on June 26, 2011, 04:51:24 PM
A change in culture and style is badly  needed aswell.
We may start experimenting with the likes of Packie Leddy and maybe Declan McKiernan in the full forward line in the league and install some sort of long ball game,because we are absolutely clueless when it comes to breaking down teams using a short game and we have been for a very long time.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up-again on June 26, 2011, 07:04:02 PM
Minors lost to Tipp in a challenge today by three points. I really don't expect them to beat Tyrone
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on June 26, 2011, 07:07:51 PM
Not a hope of our Minors beating Tyrone.. They are a poor team, Antrim were just worse than we were.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up-again on June 26, 2011, 10:01:27 PM
I recommend going onto the Hoganstand and reading what Sean O Rinn is saying. The chap is not near well. He wants to chair a committee to review Cavan football and where it is going wrong. Does our County Board actually pay this numpty?

He reckons Val should have the senior job by himself as well.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on June 26, 2011, 10:13:14 PM
In a way, it is lucky we didn't get through.

Why?  Cos we'd have to play Tyrone?

No, Oxegen is on that weekend.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on June 26, 2011, 11:41:45 PM
Quote from: put-it-up-again on June 26, 2011, 10:01:27 PM
I recommend going onto the Hoganstand and reading what Sean O Rinn is saying. The chap is not near well. He wants to chair a committee to review Cavan football and where it is going wrong. Does our County Board actually pay this numpty?

He reckons Val should have the senior job by himself as well.

He is a dose and a half, sure wasn't he running the old Cavan website - the abortion of a one that it was
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: PhilsJemmysField on June 27, 2011, 10:57:04 AM
We woz woeful,

That phrase County Star has reached a new low ebb. We have to hope that we can some form of a spark out of the club championship now. Even if you look at the physical profile of our lads versus Louth, Longford and Meath we are way behind
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on June 27, 2011, 02:50:45 PM
If it wasn't for the small bit of  hope we got from our Under 21's this year I'd have given up altogether but sure instead I'll do a copy and paste job on the post I put up last June and the June before that etc.

Our senior championship record over the past three years has to be close to the most inept and embarrassing in the country. They say the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result, Cavan GAA seems to have a patent on insanity. Returning to unfit, uncommitted players year after year in the hope that something is going to change. Putting out a team that is physically at a disadvantage to every other county in the Country and expecting they are somehow going to find a way around that. The signs were there even in the last year we had a bit of modest success under McIlkennon. During the game against Mayo in Dr Hyde Park we had a few subs came on that day who looked in a level of condition you used to see in Junior games circa 1970's-a neutral mate of mine turned to me and asked if we were having a laugh.

I don't totally blame the players-it seems to have got to the sad stage where fellas are actually doing the management a favour by coming down to tog out for the County.

And yet, we were capable of putting out an Under 21 selection that made it to an AIF ( and I'm not getting my hopes totally up on that). From what I understand they were the bones of an Under 16 development panel that stuck together so is there something to be learned there.

Any chance that this coming October we do a detailed assessment of what's in the County with a view to pulling together a group of 40 players that will commit to a few basic principles-i.e. committing to the life of an inter county footballer for a 12 month period i.e. gym work, skills improvement, look after yourself socially etc. Basic rules, sign up or ship out, no exceptions. FFS we have 40 clubs in the county surely to christ you could find ONE lad from 30 of those clubs to take up that challenge for starters. If it delivers us to Division 4 next year I really don't care as long as there was some level of improvement in the longer term. Plenty of counties out there have managed a significant improvement in the last few years Rossies, Longford etc.

Could type more but can't be arsed. Hope our minors have some bit of success against Tyrone, somebody was posting about a 3 point defeat to Tipp in a challenge, Tipp looked serious when the beat Kerry a few weeks ago so won't lose hope just yet on that front.

Have a good summer folks.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on June 27, 2011, 03:45:55 PM
Its hard to know how exactly things are going to improve.
My thought include

1. Discarding the management???? Even if this management is discarded with, The Cavan County board has shown itself incapable of selecting decent management teams and even has went as far as embarrassingly handing the decision to an outside source(sportstracker). They may once again appoint an inept management team.


2. Players acting the c**t days before an IC match.
Whether its drinking in killeshandra 6 days before an IC match,or getting wasted in Quinns 3 days before a League match,Realistically  a list of these players needs to be drafted and their IC playing careers ended for good.
The Meath lads had a few, Saturday night after the game,and there is nothing wrong with a few after any game,but going on absolute benders before and for days after games is unnacceptable at this level.

3. Gym and physical preparation.
There is a terrific set-up in regards gym facilities in Breffni,as good as vitually any other county bar maybe Dublin(DCU elite gym) Limerick(UL) and maybe one or two of the Nordies.
There should be no excuse with regards players not being powerful/strong/heavy enough to break tackles at this level.
Players who dont show the necessary guts and ambition to develop themselves into athletes fit for this level of competition should be discarded with, no matter what their football ability.

Eugene Keating is an example as to the type of player we should be looking for,outstanding football ability coupled with  power and strength.

Feel free to add to this.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on June 27, 2011, 09:38:50 PM
Who was the lad that was on the piss before the game anyway?.. Cavan should follow Kildare, while they lost yesterday they are a top team and every player on that team is physically built unlike Cavan. Since Mcgeeney has taken over they were all given weights programs and its showing the benefits 4 years on..They have probaly the best facilities for gym work and training in carlton house hotel. I think Cavan made a mistake in not appointing Pete Mcgrath last year, he would have been a shrewd manager with maybe hyland as a number 2 and 2 selectors.. I agree about keating he was probaly one of cavans better players this year. He has loads of ability, he was a big loss to the u21s last year as he wasn't involved with them at all..I dont know what players are out there improve the panel as they have looked at a few hundred at this stage ::)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Breffni_Yank on June 27, 2011, 11:44:04 PM
Attitude is clearly the problem. Therefore any manager with any balls at all would worm out those who have a negative influence. Young lads are coming through now and they need guidance. Not selfish individuals who have constantly shown that they do not have what it takes.

Therefore I would keep the likes of McCutcheon, McKeever, Podge and a few others who people know have a good attitude and I would use the likes of McEnroe, Keating, McKiernan and McDermott in and around them in a settled team next year from the very beginning and see if they click. What harm can it do?

Does anyone on here know Johnson? What is his problem? I thought he was deplorable in the two championship games. By my own admission I didn't see too much of the league so can't comment. Not even the cousin of a captain in my book. 

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on June 28, 2011, 12:03:10 AM
As one of the, ahem, older members on this thread I wish I could state that drink related indiscipline is a recent problem but unfortunately it's anything but. You can go back as far as the late 70's and the "hilarious" stories were legendary at the time of lads taking 3 or 4 days to make it back from League games in the deep south. This was when the stars of St Pats only Hogan Cup winning team were coming through so the assumption was that our brief break from collecting Ulster Medals like you now collect Tesco Club card points would be a short term thing. And here we are 40 years later.

On a national thread I've heard some guy insinuate that the GAA's worst drink problems would include Cavan football and Tipp Hurling. Interesting parallels there, lads who were collecting provincial medals for fun up to the late 60's and then disappeared without trace. Tipp have made it back to a fair degree but they have the numbers and Hurling would be a bit less competitive at any rate.

What all this proves I don't know apart from the point that I am as depressed as the next Cavan man and need to get some sleep.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: ACDC on June 28, 2011, 11:44:05 AM
QuoteReturning to unfit, uncommitted players year after year in the hope that something is going to change. Putting out a team that is physically at a disadvantage to every other county in the Country and expecting they are somehow going to find a way around that.


We Cavan supporters are delusional. We come up with random shite and keep going with it, even when it's not true or relevant. I honestly think, on average, we are less intelligent than other counties.

Never posted before but just had to jump in when I saw the post above.
What a groundless statement. Who are the unfit, uncommited players we've turned to year after year? Bear in mind that we brought in seven debutants last year and nine over two games this year. We have done the opposite - we've changed half the team every year or two. Your point is completely factually wrong.

QuoteThe signs were there even in the last year we had a bit of modest success under McIlkennon. During the game against Mayo in Dr Hyde Park we had a few subs came on that day who looked in a level of condition you used to see in Junior games circa 1970's-a neutral mate of mine turned to me and asked if we were having a laugh.

Again, you pulled this from your hole!
The subs used that day were a 17-year-old Mackey (his debut), Gaynor (always a greyhound), Collins (great shape), Paddy Brady (at 21, he was flying) and John Tierney.
Tierney always carried a few pounds, but your thing of "a few of the subs made my neutral mate think we were having a laugh" is more revisionist spoofing, I'm afraid.
Nothing personal here, mate, just typical of Cavan supporters. Rant away and ignore the truth.
The truth is we have 30 footballers in Cavan as good as a lot of counties, but they're not committed enough. They either won't play county at all (as in the case of some of the Gaels and Kingscourt boys) or they'll play but not really, really put it in.
You have to torture yourself to make it at county level these days and we don't have 30 willing to do that. It's as simple as that, I'm afraid.
It's sad but it's true.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mrdeeds on June 28, 2011, 12:15:29 PM
I tried to put a message on Hoganstand and the editor would not put it up. I believe there should be a name and shame policy if players are drinking and print that view. Too many times indiscipline is given as a reason. It might be hard if it is your own club player but so be it. One poster mentioned players who were committed and yet named one, who a few years ago got out of the bus on the way to a challenge game to go on the beer. This year we had a player playing who last year quit because he was a sub and we will always have Oxygen. Cavan are always in the national press over player issues and never what they do on the field. Always moaning about managers. Sorry the players are going to have to take a long look at themselves. Yes a drink culture existed years ago but times have changed, players in this county need to as well. They may be amateurs but most counties train and behave at a professional standard. An inter-county career is short, and the off season can be used to let loose, but when games and hard training starts, the fun is over.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mrdeeds on June 28, 2011, 12:19:58 PM
And it can't be a coincidence that our last two managers both questioned our players. "Want to be county players but not live like one."
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dougal on June 28, 2011, 12:42:57 PM
neither me or myles a have problem in naming the player through private message,but i wont put it up in public.

Had a bit of a gigle when i saw his name mentioned as a commited player,although he does seem to be a lot more commited now than he was then.

Anyone want to PM me the names of players who went to oxegen that time,dont think i ever heard for sure who it was.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mrdeeds on June 28, 2011, 12:58:34 PM
Dougal, I did not mean name and shame here, but it should be told to the manager and/or selectors.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on June 28, 2011, 01:34:36 PM
ACDC and Mr deeds, welcome to the Cavan GAA board thread.

Be warned,participation may cause clinical despression.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on June 28, 2011, 01:46:08 PM
One of the U21s has felt the need to register and post in defence of Hyland on HS. If it's true then the U21's have a lot of less than favourable things to say about the Seniors and the people involved. My fear is that these lads will hold the U21 run in their heads as the pinnacle of their achievements and because of the poor shape of the Senior setup they will feel there is nothing to be achieved by playing for the Seniors and either not bother committing at all or fall into the trap of just going through the motions and never really achieving their potential..

Just on Johnston, I was talking to a panel member a few years ago, he had just joined. He told me that before the Tipp game (I think) Carr said "Sean we're going to give Pierson the frees today" The response was something to the effect of "Ah fook that.." Followed by a walk away and Carr basically had to follow and cajole him into lining out.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up-again on June 28, 2011, 01:47:53 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on June 28, 2011, 01:34:36 PM
ACDC and Mr deeds, welcome to the Cavan GAA board thread.

Be warned,participation may cause clinical despression.

I'm at the stage where all the sharp objects in my house are kept out of view  :P
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up-again on June 28, 2011, 01:48:59 PM
Quote from: Westside on June 28, 2011, 01:46:08 PM
One of the U21s has felt the need to register and post in defence of Hyland on HS. If it's true then the U21's have a lot of less than favourable things to say about the Seniors and the people involved. My fear is that these lads will hold the U21 run in their heads as the pinnacle of their achievements and because of the poor shape of the Senior setup they will feel there is nothing to be achieved by playing for the Seniors and either not bother committing at all or fall into the trap of just going through the motions and never really achieving their potential..

Just on Johnston, I was talking to a panel member a few years ago, he had just joined. He told me that before the Tipp game (I think) Carr said "Sean we're going to give Pierson the frees today" The response was something to the effect of "Ah fook that.." Followed by a walk away and Carr basically had to follow and cajole him into lining out.

Good point Westside. Already this year Minnagh and Barry Reilly didn't bother.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dougal on June 28, 2011, 01:58:21 PM
Quote from: put-it-up-again on June 28, 2011, 01:48:59 PM
Good point Westside. Already this year Minnagh and Barry Reilly didn't bother.

Is it possible that both clubs have a better setup than the county? I've heard one of the kingscourt lads left the panel as club training was tougher.Also,in redhills ive heard you wouldnt dare be seen drinking without having permission from the manger,and fellow players would have no problem hanging you if they saw you drinking.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on June 28, 2011, 02:14:25 PM
We have one of the stars of the Under 21 team as a member on here aswell, and i havent seen him try and defend that duo.
Does Hyland deserve credit for the under 21's this year? Most definetly,he done a great job with them.
But this isnt the under 21's, this is Senior IC football, and we have been embarrassed in championship football this year.

-The lack of a gameplan to beat Donegals blanket defence.
-Playing 2 extra men in defence when we were 6 points down in the second half.
-Putting Michael Brady in his first senior game  on Paul Barden.
-Starting a clearly unfit Niall Murray against Longford

These are just 4 absolutely chronic decisions on behalf of the senior management in two games.
Dougal, i was told that aswell that some of the Kingscourt lads werent impressed with training at all,andwere supposed to have said that their club training was far superior.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on June 28, 2011, 02:17:43 PM
Redhills have done something right. A junior side what.. 6 years ago.. now sitting pretty at the top of Division 1? Minagh has a future as a corner back or full back if he wants it. I sincerely hope he plays for Cavan next year. Barry Reilly is a strange one, doesn't have it physically yet but has a great football brain. He was poor in the latter stages of the U21 but he's a future centre forward if he can deliver on his potential IMO.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on June 28, 2011, 02:22:01 PM
Quote from: put-it-up-again on June 28, 2011, 01:47:53 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on June 28, 2011, 01:34:36 PM
ACDC and Mr deeds, welcome to the Cavan GAA board thread.

Be warned,participation may cause clinical despression.

I'm at the stage where all the sharp objects in my house are kept out of view  :P

I introduced my sky and tv remote controls to the wall,saturday night when i got home.  ;D
I would say Cavan football knocks about 10 years off our life expectancy.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on June 28, 2011, 02:25:30 PM
Quote from: Westside on June 28, 2011, 02:17:43 PM
Redhills have done something right. A junior side what.. 6 years ago.. now sitting pretty at the top of Division 1? Minagh has a future as a corner back or full back if he wants it. I sincerely hope he plays for Cavan next year. Barry Reilly is a strange one, doesn't have it physically yet but has a great football brain. He was poor in the latter stages of the U21 but he's a future centre forward if he can deliver on his potential IMO.
You're correct there WS
Redhills probably train harder than any nearly other club in the county.
They have a new enough club gym,and by all accounts nearly every player is in it 4/5 nights a week.
No such thing as lack of committment in that club.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mrdeeds on June 28, 2011, 03:26:20 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on June 28, 2011, 02:22:01 PM
Quote from: put-it-up-again on June 28, 2011, 01:47:53 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on June 28, 2011, 01:34:36 PM
ACDC and Mr deeds, welcome to the Cavan GAA board thread.

Be warned,participation may cause clinical despression.

I'm at the stage where all the sharp objects in my house are kept out of view  :P

I introduced my sky and tv remote controls to the wall,saturday night when i got home.  ;D
I would say Cavan football knocks about 10 years off our life expectancy.

Well I'm a long time poster on hoganstand, started reading this forum and a bit more truth here. Posts go up less edited. The depression set in long ago but some rare moments of joy. 1997, u21's etc... If we had too much we would not appreciate it. This year's seniors though. Even since Val was last in job we had notable results, running Armagh close with 14 players for the 70mins, drawing with eventual all ireland winners Tyrone, an epic comeback against Down. Days in Clones and the craic with the opposition fans because you had given a good account of yourselves. Now no passion.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on June 28, 2011, 03:27:43 PM
Bud Fitzpatrick was a player who i thought would have made a impact this year but played very little.. I don't think he was even on the panel for the donegal Longford games. Pierson started the year off very well in the mckenna cup but hardly featured during the league which was stange and wasn't included in the championship panel. Alan Clarke was decent with Cavan last year and very solid with kingscourt yet they stuck him corner back in the league and he soon lost his place and left. Eoin Mcguigan was dropped before the league which i always couldn't figure out as he done well last year in his only year of county football. These were some of the comical things andrews/hyland did during the year.. Dropping Mc keever for the Donegal game was probaly the worst !
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: PhilsJemmysField on June 28, 2011, 04:35:00 PM
Lads Cavan senior football is history for another year --- Back to the boring auld Club stuff again

Tuesday, 28th June 2011 @ 8pm
A.C.F.L. Division 2
Bailieborough v Cootehill
Referee:  Martin Brady – Ballinagh

Wednesday, 29th June 2011 @ 8pm
A.C.F.L. Division 1
Lacken v Gowna
Referee:  Noel Mooney
Ballinagh v Castlerahan
Referee:  Ollie Donohoe
Ballyhaise v Belturbet
Referee:  Thomas Doonan
Lavey v Killeshandra
Referee:  Kieran McCarville

Wednesday, 29th June 2011 @ 8pm
A.C.F.L. Division 2
Swanlinbar v Drung
Referee:  Martin Brady - Lacken

Friday, 01st July 2011 @ 8.15pm
A.C.F.L. Division 1 Round 11
Lavey v Mullahoran
Referee:  Ciaran McCarville

Friday, 01st July 2011 @ 8pm
A.C.F.L. Division 2 Round 11
Drumalee v Cootehill
Referee:  James Clarke

Friday, 01st July 2011 @ 7pm
A.C.F.L. Reserve Division 1 Round 11
Lavey v Mullahoran
Referee:  Ciaran McCarville

Saturday, 02nd July 2011 @ 6pm
A.C.F.L. Reserve Division 1 Round 11
Gowna v Castlerahan (Game at 7.30pm)
Referee:  Martin Brady Ballinagh
Killygarry v Ballyhaise
Referee:  Raymond Kelly
Kingscourt v Ballinagh (Game at 7.30pm)
Referee:  John Cassidy

Lacken v Ramor Utd
Referee:  Packie Smith

Saturday, 02nd July 2011 @ 6pm
A.C.F.L. Reserve Division 2 Round 11
Crosserlough v Swanlinbar
Referee:  Ollie Donohoe
Denn v Cornafean
Referee:  Padraig Kelleher
Drung v Butlersbridge
Referee:  Donal Reilly
Kill v Bailieborough
Referee:  Chris McCaffrey
Killinkere v Shercock (Game at 7.30pm)
Referee:  Jimmy Galligan - Lacken
Knockbride v Shannon Gaels
Referee:  Seamus O'Connor

Saturday, 02nd July 2011 @ 7.30pm
A.C.F.L. Division 1 Round 11
Cuchulainns v Redhills
Referee:  Brendan Sweeney
Drumlane v Cavan Gaels (Game at 8pm)
Referee:  Martin Brady - Lacken
Gowna v Castlerahan (Game at 6pm)
Referee:  Martin Brady - Ballinagh
Killeshandra v Belturbet
Referee:  Brian Crowe
Killygarry v Ballyhaise
Referee:  Raymond Kelly
Kingscourt v Ballinagh (Game at 6pm)
Referee:  John Cassidy
Lacken v Ramor Utd
Referee:  Packie Smith

Saturday, 02nd July 2011 @ 7.30pm
A.C.F.L. Division 2 Round 11
Crosserlough v Swanlinbar
Referee:  Ollie Dohohoe
Denn v Cornafean
Referee:  Padraig Kelleher
Drumgoon v Cavan Gaels (Game at 4pm)
Referee:  Gerry Sheridan
Drung v Butlersbridge
Referee:  Donal Reilly
Kill v Bailieborough
Referee:  Chris McCaffrey
Killinkere v Shercock (Game at 6pm)
Referee:  Jimmy Galligan - Lacken
Knockbride v Shannon Gaels
Referee:  Seamus O'Connor

Saturday, 02nd July 2011 @ 7.30pm
A.C.F.L. Division 3 Round 12
Arva v Corlough
Referee:  Margaret Farrelly
Templeport v Ballyconnell First Ulsters
Referee:  Robbie McDermott
Munterconnacht v Laragh Utd
Referee:  Noel Mooney
Mountnugent v Maghera
Referee:  Martin Sexton

Sunday, 03rd July 2011 @ 1pm
A.C.F.L. Reserve Division 2 Round 11
Drumalee v Cootehill
Referee:  Ronan Bannon

Sunday, 03rd July 2011 @ 1pm
A.C.F.L. Reserve Division 3 Round 12
Ballymachugh v Killeshandra
Referee:  Conor Douneen
Crosserlough v Laragh Utd
Referee:  Liam Kelly
Killinkere v Mountnugent
Referee:  Harry Conaty

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on June 28, 2011, 05:13:53 PM
Quote from: ACDC on June 28, 2011, 11:44:05 AM
QuoteReturning to unfit, uncommitted players year after year in the hope that something is going to change. Putting out a team that is physically at a disadvantage to every other county in the Country and expecting they are somehow going to find a way around that.


We Cavan supporters are delusional. We come up with random shite and keep going with it, even when it's not true or relevant. I honestly think, on average, we are less intelligent than other counties.

Never posted before but just had to jump in when I saw the post above.
What a groundless statement. Who are the unfit, uncommited players we've turned to year after year? Bear in mind that we brought in seven debutants last year and nine over two games this year. We have done the opposite - we've changed half the team every year or two. Your point is completely factually wrong.

QuoteThe signs were there even in the last year we had a bit of modest success under McIlkennon. During the game against Mayo in Dr Hyde Park we had a few subs came on that day who looked in a level of condition you used to see in Junior games circa 1970's-a neutral mate of mine turned to me and asked if we were having a laugh.

Again, you pulled this from your hole!
The subs used that day were a 17-year-old Mackey (his debut), Gaynor (always a greyhound), Collins (great shape), Paddy Brady (at 21, he was flying) and John Tierney.
Tierney always carried a few pounds, but your thing of "a few of the subs made my neutral mate think we were having a laugh" is more revisionist spoofing, I'm afraid.
Nothing personal here, mate, just typical of Cavan supporters. Rant away and ignore the truth.
The truth is we have 30 footballers in Cavan as good as a lot of counties, but they're not committed enough. They either won't play county at all (as in the case of some of the Gaels and Kingscourt boys) or they'll play but not really, really put it in.
You have to torture yourself to make it at county level these days and we don't have 30 willing to do that. It's as simple as that, I'm afraid.
It's sad but it's true.


Welcome on board ACDC. I could make a lot of points in response but I'll limit myself to a few. You ask me who the unfit, uncommitted players we have turned to year after year? You then tell us that the problem is that you will get lads who will play but not "really, really put it in". So in a way you've answered your own question. I don't want to be getting on the cases of individual players and I'd like to think that the latest move towards youth is a positive move however, since you've put a direct question I'll give you a few hints. The team that lined out last Saturday included the following-one guy who has withdrawn and being asked back into the panel on countless times over the past 2 to 3 years, two lads who went off to the USA mid championship leading Keogan to state they would never tog out again for Cavan as long as he was involved, one chap who got "lost" on the way to a pitch opening against the Dubs down in West Cavan 4 or 5 years ago and a lad that was, supposedly, picked up on the way to a qualifier game against Wicklow,  I think, directly from the Oxegen festival. Now maybe all these lads have now mended their ways and are model inter county footballers but in some counties I think the door might have been shut on one or two of them by now.

I wouldn't agree with your suggestion that there are not 30 players in the County who are committed to the demands of playing at a decent inter county level. We heard that for enough years before McHugh got involved and I'd like to think that the bit of improvement at underage level over the last two years might be a positive sign for the future. If your assessment is true and we have more of the last two years at championship level to look forward to for the foreseeable future it's a bloody depressing future for us on the GAA front at any rate.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on June 28, 2011, 05:49:04 PM
Quote from: anglocelt39 on June 28, 2011, 05:13:53 PM
Quote from: ACDC on June 28, 2011, 11:44:05 AM
QuoteReturning to unfit, uncommitted players year after year in the hope that something is going to change. Putting out a team that is physically at a disadvantage to every other county in the Country and expecting they are somehow going to find a way around that.


We Cavan supporters are delusional. We come up with random shite and keep going with it, even when it's not true or relevant. I honestly think, on average, we are less intelligent than other counties.

Never posted before but just had to jump in when I saw the post above.
What a groundless statement. Who are the unfit, uncommited players we've turned to year after year? Bear in mind that we brought in seven debutants last year and nine over two games this year. We have done the opposite - we've changed half the team every year or two. Your point is completely factually wrong.

QuoteThe signs were there even in the last year we had a bit of modest success under McIlkennon. During the game against Mayo in Dr Hyde Park we had a few subs came on that day who looked in a level of condition you used to see in Junior games circa 1970's-a neutral mate of mine turned to me and asked if we were having a laugh.

Again, you pulled this from your hole!
The subs used that day were a 17-year-old Mackey (his debut), Gaynor (always a greyhound), Collins (great shape), Paddy Brady (at 21, he was flying) and John Tierney.
Tierney always carried a few pounds, but your thing of "a few of the subs made my neutral mate think we were having a laugh" is more revisionist spoofing, I'm afraid.
Nothing personal here, mate, just typical of Cavan supporters. Rant away and ignore the truth.
The truth is we have 30 footballers in Cavan as good as a lot of counties, but they're not committed enough. They either won't play county at all (as in the case of some of the Gaels and Kingscourt boys) or they'll play but not really, really put it in.
You have to torture yourself to make it at county level these days and we don't have 30 willing to do that. It's as simple as that, I'm afraid.
It's sad but it's true.


Welcome on board ACDC. I could make a lot of points in response but I'll limit myself to a few. You ask me who the unfit, uncommitted players we have turned to year after year? You then tell us that the problem is that you will get lads who will play but not "really, really put it in". So in a way you've answered your own question. I don't want to be getting on the cases of individual players and I'd like to think that the latest move towards youth is a positive move however, since you've put a direct question I'll give you a few hints. The team that lined out last Saturday included the following-one guy who has withdrawn and being asked back into the panel on countless times over the past 2 to 3 years, two lads who went off to the USA mid championship leading Keogan to state they would never tog out again for Cavan as long as he was involved, one chap who got "lost" on the way to a pitch opening against the Dubs down in West Cavan 4 or 5 years ago and a lad that was, supposedly, picked up on the way to a qualifier game against Wicklow,  I think, directly from the Oxegen festival. Now maybe all these lads have now mended their ways and are model inter county footballers but in some counties I think the door might have been shut on one or two of them by now.

I wouldn't agree with your suggestion that there are not 30 players in the County who are committed to the demands of playing at a decent inter county level. We heard that for enough years before McHugh got involved and I'd like to think that the bit of improvement at underage level over the last two years might be a positive sign for the future. If your assessment is true and we have more of the last two years at championship level to look forward to for the foreseeable future it's a bloody depressing future for us on the GAA front at any rate.

Who was that?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: footballmad on June 28, 2011, 07:09:57 PM
Well lads, long time reader of the board and posted a few years back but still been reading. Like looking the main board and pop in here from time to time to see what people are thinking. There are some good post, some insightful posts and of course some idiotic post with some personal attacks put in for good measure.
I know it's a bad situation (Cavan football)  at the moment and what not with the current team and poor showings so don't think I'm trying to move off topic or that,
But I have one question for you boys, What have you done to improve Cavan football? Individually what sacrifices, efforts, commitments or anything excluding posting on a message board that is, done to help Cavan football improve. I know some of you boys play football, are any of you on the county panel or ever been? even on an U-16 development panal? So if you have could you list all the work you have put in to improve this situation? ( again posting on a message board will not be counted  ) I think it would make for interesting all be it short reading but I hope to been shocked.

BallyhaiseMan?
rodney trotter?
anglocelt39?
tommysmith?
Breffni_Yank?
mrdeeds?
Dougal?
Westside?
put-it-up-again?
Dougal?
PhilsJemmysField?
mylestheslasher?

Looking forward To this..
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on June 28, 2011, 07:25:18 PM
Quote from: footballmad on June 28, 2011, 07:09:57 PM
Well lads, long time reader of the board and posted a few years back but still been reading. Like looking the main board and pop in here from time to time to see what people are thinking. There are some good post, some insightful posts and of course some idiotic post with some personal attacks put in for good measure.
I know it's a bad situation (Cavan football)  at the moment and what not with the current team and poor showings so don't think I'm trying to move off topic or that,
But I have one question for you boys, What have you done to improve Cavan football? Individually what sacrifices, efforts, commitments or anything excluding posting on a message board that is, done to help Cavan football improve. I know some of you boys play football, are any of you on the county panel or ever been? even on an U-16 development panal? So if you have could you list all the work you have put in to improve this situation? ( again posting on a message board will not be counted  ) I think it would make for interesting all be it short reading but I hope to been shocked.

BallyhaiseMan?
rodney trotter?
anglocelt39?
tommysmith?
Breffni_Yank?
mrdeeds?
Dougal?
Westside?
put-it-up-again?
Dougal?
PhilsJemmysField?
mylestheslasher?

Looking forward To this..

With a post like this the poster would normally set an example and start by listing there own efforts first, ill be glad to post my own modest efforts thereafter.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on June 28, 2011, 07:42:14 PM
Quote from: footballmad on June 28, 2011, 07:09:57 PM
Well lads, long time reader of the board and posted a few years back but still been reading. Like looking the main board and pop in here from time to time to see what people are thinking. There are some good post, some insightful posts and of course some idiotic post with some personal attacks put in for good measure.
I know it's a bad situation (Cavan football)  at the moment and what not with the current team and poor showings so don't think I'm trying to move off topic or that,
But I have one question for you boys, What have you done to improve Cavan football? Individually what sacrifices, efforts, commitments or anything excluding posting on a message board that is, done to help Cavan football improve. I know some of you boys play football, are any of you on the county panel or ever been? even on an U-16 development panal? So if you have could you list all the work you have put in to improve this situation? ( again posting on a message board will not be counted  ) I think it would make for interesting all be it short reading but I hope to been shocked.

BallyhaiseMan?
rodney trotter?
anglocelt39?
tommysmith?
Breffni_Yank?
mrdeeds?
Dougal?
Westside?
put-it-up-again?
Dougal?
PhilsJemmysField?
mylestheslasher?

Looking forward To this..

I fill the team bus with diesel.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mrdeeds on June 28, 2011, 07:59:44 PM
I'll take that up, personally never played football at that standard, yeah played some senior championship football but more of a junior player and I accept that. If I was at that standard I would act and behave like an inter-county player. When I was playing club championship football I respected drink bans and trained hard. I know some of the players and their carry on which is shocking and that actually makes it harder to look at. They're wasting their talent some of them and I would give a nut to have half of it. With regards what I have done to improve with the counties football, I went into the administration side of it and I go to county board meetings. Sat in on discussions on how to improve football in Cavan during the last few years, one result being the idea of two points for a free of the ground under age. Also make contributions at county level. At club level I have helped with under age coaching. I never have mentioned any individuals names, only mentioning incidents, which lets be honest are not appropriate. And even if I never played football what about all the money I have invested in it at club level and county to fund the players gear, travel costs, expenses. It is the fans that pay, not the players so they are entitled to an opinion.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on June 28, 2011, 08:07:35 PM
footballmad, interesting questions

BHM and Boojangles play for Div 1 teams and I assume they prepare hard for these.

Myles is in Sligo and may be doing stuff there but he can't help Cavan from there.

Other lads are involved in their clubs or are living away fom Cavan.

Was involved back in the day when Backs and Forwards was the method of choice to hone preparedness before the big championship game.

What can they do to make a difference when being part of a development squad or even as part of the panel?

A more interesting question would be are any posters Club officials or delagates to the County Board? 
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: footballmad on June 28, 2011, 08:30:46 PM
Good joke tommy  ;D but seriously have you done anything?

Mr Deeds, why did you not try and get to the standard thats required and improve the situation as a player? and by all means the standard is not that high. Co board route is bull if you ask me, but the coaching aspect is a great route and a sure way to improve things and congrats on that. Can i ask how have your got on?

Denn forever the idea behind my reference to the developments squads or panel was, if they were ever on one of these why did they not make it? lack of effort?not enough time in the gym? too busy on the drink? college life? the seem to be committed to posting but not making the effort to become a inter county footballer? Do you see where im coming from?


mylestheslasher, i dont do enough to improve the situation thats why i took a back seat and not knocking the team. If i was willing to train and make the team then i could have a say. and FYI i do a small bit of coaching with the clubs underage. I do it for fun and enjoy it no end.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on June 28, 2011, 08:34:46 PM
Footballmad you've been reading for a few years so on that basis you should certainly know where I stand as well as a fair few others. Think Myles' suggestion that you list your own level of involvement is not unreasonable if you have a blanket request for several other posters to list where they stand.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on June 28, 2011, 08:35:36 PM
I'm sure footballmad will tell us his own deeds in good time so I will tell you mine.

I played intermediate level for a poor Killeshandra team for a good few years. Played a lot of reserve team and it was always my ambition to make the senior team. I missed out on a lot of underage myself so I had to work really hard to get on the 1st team. I was probably the most dedicated trainer on the team in my time. Unfortunately our season always revolved around avoiding relegation which eventually came.

As a player I also trained underage teams. Manys an evening I was at the pitch from 6 -10pm with youngsters and then senior training. I trained young lads for 3 years before I moved to Sligo, I tried to keep up playing with the senior team from afar but wasn't able to commit so I transferred to a Sligo team. When I look at the lads I trained underage 3 of them featured on this years U21 panel, 2 on last years and 1 other that made the senior panel. I don't of course claim responsibility for that but I'd like to think I contributed something in their development.

As a supporter I have been all over Ireland watching the team. My earliest recollection is the 88 U21 final in Longford. For years I barely missed a league match. With kids and living far away it gets harder and harder to make matches, especially when you ask yourself are some of the players really that interested.

So that is my pen pic for what it is worth - have I the right to comment on the current set-up?

Did you know in 1947 Cavan arrived back in Ireland by boat after winning the AI final in the polo grounds. The whole team went back to Cavan for a reception, to parade through the towns, the bonfires and no doubt a few scoops. One man was missing. John Joe O Reilly instead went to the Curragh to play a club championship match the day the ship landed and missed the reception for the team. That is not to compare John Joes ability to the current players but instead to compare the dedication and obvious high esteem he placed on every team he played with, even an adopted team in the Curragh. In this years U21s I see this type of attitude and I hope it can be maintained into senior but I see and hear some outrageous things from some of our so called seniors that makes me wonder whether they will drag the U21s down instead.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mrdeeds on June 28, 2011, 08:43:09 PM
Wasn't a lack of commitment footballmad, trained on my own a lot, last to leave training, just not quite at the standard. I do not think the county board route is bull if you do it right and are not just doing it for ego purposes which I feel many on the top table are. It is on behalf of the club I do it. As for coaching it was just teaching the basics, a definite necissity. The club in years gone by has put in a great underage effort but it has slipped recently. I believe ex players and even current ones should be coaching their underage players from under 8 up. We need quality coaching. Primary school coaching has being cut back also. Big problems that need addressing.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on June 28, 2011, 08:56:40 PM
Know little about the development squad to be honest but I say that the idea of such a squad is to develop i.e. a basic way/structured way of playing a game with a coherent game plan.  Hate it but Donegal seem to have sorted this out.

The ways you have asked why they did not make it was a tad simplistic and in the past has not seemed to matter, people being brought back to the panel having been dropped for example.  Maybe they we not good enough no matter how fit they were.

On the idea of a gameplan, on Saturday there seemed to be no gameplan.  Surely the plan should have been to get the ball to the scoring forwards?  Keating had to go out a forrage for the ball.  Johnson did not seem to be used at all.  He is lethal around the square and yet he was playing corner forward.  Get the ball to him.  I can't remember who the other corner forward was so that tells how much he was used.

Going back to the development squad, last years U21 team would seem to be a good example of it working.  But I'll hold my counsel on this until we see how the U21s get on next year and see how well the minors get on against Tyrone
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: footballmad on June 28, 2011, 08:57:08 PM
Ok just to clarify I have been involved with underage teams in my club (Cavan Gaels) im not a great coach, i just give a hand to help out and enjoy the game.

I respect all your achievements and all myles and you seem to be a good coach. Now please dont take this the wrong way but from reading your post you rate yourself as a poor player. Why did you never improve if you were the most dedicated trainer?

Anglo im sure you have posted all the information but cant remember, sorry for that. But my question is, what are you doing to improve the situation right now?

Mrdeeds, what is the standard?

Sorry if im coming across  bad lads, hope nobody is taking offense, not my intention at all believe me
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on June 28, 2011, 09:03:11 PM
Quote from: footballmad on June 28, 2011, 08:57:08 PM

I respect all your achievements and all myles and you seem to be a good coach. Now please dont take this the wrong way but from reading your post you rate yourself as a poor player. Why did you never improve if you were the most dedicated trainer?

Some people just dont have it no matter how hard they train but clubs need them players to survive and keep two teams going.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on June 28, 2011, 09:17:35 PM
Quote from: footballmad on June 28, 2011, 08:57:08 PM
Ok just to clarify I have been involved with underage teams in my club (Cavan Gaels) im not a great coach, i just give a hand to help out and enjoy the game.

I respect all your achievements and all myles and you seem to be a good coach. Now please dont take this the wrong way but from reading your post you rate yourself as a poor player. Why did you never improve if you were the most dedicated trainer?

Anglo im sure you have posted all the information but cant remember, sorry for that. But my question is, what are you doing to improve the situation right now?

Mrdeeds, what is the standard?

Sorry if im coming across  bad lads, hope nobody is taking offense, not my intention at all believe me



Er, I think it's been established at this stage that I'm the one poster on this thread that was at the 1969aisf. I left the old county aged 17 so I think that probably answers your question on what I'm doing to improve the situation right now. Like to think I bring this perspective to my posting on here, 700 posts in 8 years of membership, most on non Cavan GAA threads. Try (like yourself apparently) wherever possible not to be overly critical of individual players as I believe Cavan's GAA problems are a bit more fundamental than being short a few key men at any level. Delighted to hear you're doing your bit at underage level.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on June 28, 2011, 09:19:12 PM
Quote from: footballmad on June 28, 2011, 08:57:08 PM
Ok just to clarify I have been involved with underage teams in my club (Cavan Gaels) im not a great coach, i just give a hand to help out and enjoy the game.

I respect all your achievements and all myles and you seem to be a good coach. Now please dont take this the wrong way but from reading your post you rate yourself as a poor player. Why did you never improve if you were the most dedicated trainer?

Anglo im sure you have posted all the information but cant remember, sorry for that. But my question is, what are you doing to improve the situation right now?

Mrdeeds, what is the standard?

Sorry if im coming across  bad lads, hope nobody is taking offense, not my intention at all believe me

I don't think I said I was a poor player, I had my good days. I think I did as good as my ability allowed. Not everyone has the ability to make county level, all you cnb do is be as good as you can be. As a coach that is a very important message to pass onto your players.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mrdeeds on June 28, 2011, 09:23:04 PM
As someone said you either have it or don't. Training only brings you so far. Skill and talent are two different things. I wasn't up to the standard of a senior championship club player, a poor squad player. So I gave my time in a different way.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on June 28, 2011, 09:30:53 PM
I play with the club, mainly with the juniors have never really broken into the senior team..
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on June 28, 2011, 09:43:14 PM
OK, enough, this bloke is a bit of a joker and we're swallowing him hook line and sinker. What exactly is his proposal, that we all fill out some sort of Cavan GAA CV before we are considered worthy of commenting on the state of Cavan football? Sure maybe we should extend that to attending County matches and expressing our opinions/frustrations at Breffni or Clones (remember Clones?), admission only and permission to let off steam only if you can prove your contribution to the development of Cavan football. So thanks for posting and good luck with your underage coaching, in fairness this thread has been capable of reasonable self regulation before today and I'm sure will continue in a similar vein into the future, regardless of the disappointments we might face.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on June 28, 2011, 10:27:05 PM
4 appearances with the  Irish International Rules team.
6 All stars
3 Footballer of the year awards
5 All Irelands
8 Ulster Titles.
4 Sigersons
3 Ulster Clubs
3 All Ireland Clubs
5 SFC medals
3 time GAAboard poster of the year.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Ollie on June 28, 2011, 10:51:07 PM
Quote from: anglocelt39 on June 28, 2011, 09:43:14 PM
OK, enough, this bloke is a bit of a joker and we're swallowing him hook line and sinker. What exactly is his proposal, that we all fill out some sort of Cavan GAA CV before we are considered worthy of commenting on the state of Cavan football? Sure maybe we should extend that to attending County matches and expressing our opinions/frustrations at Breffni or Clones (remember Clones?), admission only and permission to let off steam only if you can prove your contribution to the development of Cavan football. So thanks for posting and good luck with your underage coaching, in fairness this thread has been capable of reasonable self regulation before today and I'm sure will continue in a similar vein into the future, regardless of the disappointments we might face.

That's a bit harsh. I don't think Footballmad was trying to propose anything, he was just making a valid point. All to often you see a lot of negative comments from posters (myself included) criticising individuals such as mangers, players, referee, club/county board officials about everything they do. In reality a lot of people put themselves out to part-take in GAA knowing that the commitment that they make will be overwhelming and that they'll receive a fair amount of abuse and criticism regardless of the outcome of results. I think we should try to be more understanding of the difficult situations that people undertake voluntarily and stop demanding so much from those who have so little.

My take on Cavan football right now is simple. Cavan is a weak footballing county and it has been for many many years. Supporters have a huge expectation level even though there is nothing to suggest that we are capable of competing with the modestly strong counties let alone the strong counties. Just analysis some of the facts:

Only won two Ulster titles in the last 40 years
We've only won six Ulster Championship games in the last 10 years
No Cavan Club has ever won the Ulster club Championship
We've only had two All-star awards in our history.

The under 21s this year had a successful campaign which unfortunately game to a typically disappointing end but it would be naive to think that their success will have a major impact going forward in the future. Personally I didnt expect the outcomes of both the Donegal and Longford games to be that bad but I never expected them to win either.

Our only hope now is that Terry and Val are given plenty of time to develop the young footballers in Cavan and that there not badly affected by immigration, lack of commitment or lack of interest. This too can be applied to all clubs in Cavan who are doing their best for Cavan Gaa.       

P.S I totally agree with you're last commenting regarding the self regulation of this thread.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on June 28, 2011, 11:01:20 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on June 28, 2011, 10:27:05 PM
4 appearances with the  Irish International Rules team.
6 All stars
3 Footballer of the year awards
5 All Irelands
8 Ulster Titles.
4 Sigersons
3 Ulster Clubs
3 All Ireland Clubs
5 SFC medals
3 time GAAboard poster of the year.

5 all Ireland's with Cavan and still playing and you must be 90 yrs old minimum, they breed tough ones in ballyhaise. :D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on June 28, 2011, 11:02:52 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on June 28, 2011, 11:01:20 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on June 28, 2011, 10:27:05 PM
4 appearances with the  Irish International Rules team.
6 All stars
3 Footballer of the year awards
5 All Irelands
8 Ulster Titles.
4 Sigersons
3 Ulster Clubs
3 All Ireland Clubs
5 SFC medals
3 time GAAboard poster of the year.

5 all Ireland's with Cavan and still playing and you must be 90 yrs old minimum, they breed tough ones in ballyhaise. :D

Indeed,but its the last one on that list,that im most proud of!!!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on June 28, 2011, 11:57:31 PM
AC39 is right, as supporters who pay into games and have done over the years we are well entitled to give our opinions. Personally I don't want the admission I pay to go in the form of travel expenses or kit bags or jackets to a lad who will attend Oxegen on the weekend of a Championship game. In so much as any supporter "deserves" anything.. Cavan supporters deserve better than this.
I don't profess to be an expert or pretend that what I write here holds any weight. But you don't have to fly to know the sky is blue and you don't have to be a county player to know that something isn't right in Cavan football for the past few decades.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up-again on June 29, 2011, 12:09:17 AM
I drive home for a club game tonight and when I get back to Dublin and log on for a while I see that many of you have opened up your hearts to one another. Brought a tear to my eye!

At the end of the day no matter how good or bad any of us are I think we're a great bunch of lads and should meet up for a few pints some night ;D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: footballmad on June 29, 2011, 12:11:43 AM
AC39 sorry for geeting you a little mad, not my intention, at the end of the day I only asked a simple question, what are we doing to improve cavan football right now? I didnt attack you or call you a joker or anything. Do you just want a poster that agrees with your views?Not much of a board if its a follow the leader.

Some collection Ballyhaiseman  ;)



Westside why do you pay into these games? I know if i went to a bad film in the cinema i wouldnt go and pay into it again.

Lads im not saying you have to be a county footballer to comment or have views thats defo not the case, im just saying that there is no point in running down the whole set-up and individuals involved and care so much about cavan football but have no intention of helping improve the situation.

Can you see where im coming from?

ps Cheers for the support ollie  ;D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on June 29, 2011, 12:18:28 AM
Quote from: put-it-up-again on June 29, 2011, 12:09:17 AM
I drive home for a club game tonight and when I get back to Dublin and log on for a while I see that many of you have opened up your hearts to one another. Brought a tear to my eye!

At the end of the day no matter how good or bad any of us are I think we're a great bunch of lads and should meet up for a few pints some night ;D

Don't get me started about that fecking game!!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up-again on June 29, 2011, 12:24:40 AM
It coulda went either way in the end! Did you venture up near my end of the field?

And I don't think anyone on here needs to justify what they are doing to help Cavan football. What I would like to hear is what's the paid coaches and officials are doing - particularly at underage level.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on June 29, 2011, 12:36:28 AM
football mad I pay into the McKenna Cup and League and Championship because I love the game and I love nights like the Wicklow game last year or Down a few years ago, seldom though those type of games are.. I will continue to support Cavan regardless of the state of the team. I was a committed player but never a talented one. I do my best to help my club which is all my expertise and time can allow.. I'm not the guy you want training an U-16 development squad. I think that effort in club sides filters through to the county, and that's enough for me to feel like I do my bit.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on June 29, 2011, 12:52:24 AM
Quote from: mrdeeds on June 28, 2011, 12:19:58 PM
And it can't be a coincidence that our last two managers both questioned our players. "Want to be county players but not live like one."

Thats the easy option to blame indisciplined players. These managers still picked these indisciplined players and kept them on panels.
Same with this set-up. A blind eye was turned to stuff at Christmas and since but some of these lads still went on to represent Cavan in the league and championship. A few months back all county players were told not to play with their clubs for the 2nd round of the League. Some lads obeyed it and some didnt. The writing was on the wall then. It was obvious that the players had no respect for the Management or their own team mates.
You will never build a winning mentality and a proper TEAM under these conditions.
And I really can't see how the current management can gain total respect now.
I hate harping back to 6-7 years ago but players feared Eamon Coleman and more importantly they respected him. We havent had a Manager like him since. (And thats with all respect to Mc Elkannon) Until we get a man who will come in and kick boys off physio tables, kick boys off panels for messing etc and kick boys up the behind for sauntering through trainings then we'r going nowhere. It may take 2 or 3 years but at least we can weed out whoever doesn't want to give 100%. Alot of the lads on the Cavan panel do give 100% but that isn't enough. We need everybody giving 100%. We are at a big enough disadvantage already due to the size and population of Cavan. We cannot afford to keep carrying passengers on panels and teams.

Terry has done an excellent job with the U-21 set-up and he should be left to that. After that unfortunately I think we need a change at Senior level.
I read a great piece on the Kildare set-up a month or so ago detailing the sacrifices the whole panel had made TOGETHER over the past 3 years since McGeeney came in. Fundraising for a new gym in the K-club was the full responsibility of the players. Every player had to raise 3,500 euro. He also had all the players doing some sort of Martial arts. That's only two examples of the responsibilities that each player took on to help better themselves and the team. It was either everybody all in or they were going nowhere.
2008 we were beaten by a last minute goal by Kildare. Look at the difference in the 2 counties now.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on June 29, 2011, 01:04:20 AM
Quote from: put-it-up-again on June 29, 2011, 12:24:40 AM
It coulda went either way in the end! Did you venture up near my end of the field?

And I don't think anyone on here needs to justify what they are doing to help Cavan football. What I would like to hear is what's the paid coaches and officials are doing - particularly at underage level.

Ahh we were terrible in the second half.  Indeed I did not, where I was I remained throughout the game!!!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on June 29, 2011, 08:58:54 AM
Lads posting their achievements to get valiadation from some fool so they can post on the internet  :D

One of the biggest problems in Cavan football is the attitude of the clubs.  There are people like us who will travel the country watching them and go to whatever games we can get to .  Most clubs only have a handful of loyal Cavan supporters as can be seen in attendances.

Unfortunatley in a lot of clubs there is f**k them attitude to the county team.  Lads will be happy now that Cavan our out of the championship.  Most of them would have been at the U21 final this year and that would have been the only game they were at this year.  I dont think players are given any encouragment to play for the county anymore as they may miss clubs games which all alot of people care about.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Benny on June 29, 2011, 11:14:12 AM
They are all coming out of the woodwork now!!

Like Footballmad am a long time reader, first time poster.

Have two points, firstly have to agree with Tommy's last post, the attitude of the majority of the clubs in Cavan is get the seniors out of the way and get on with the club scene. Dont get me wrong, a strong club scene is commendable, but we need to structure the club championship in such a way that instead of interfering with an with the All Ireland run it helps bring players on. Clubs hate to loose their players at important points in the playing year, hence players are not encouraged to play with the county. However sheltering panel members by asking them not to play with their clubs is wrong, the majority of players over U21 level need football and this p*sses the clubs off. If for example I was Mickey Brennan, and stuck by the rules of the County panel, I would have played less football than an ordinary club player this year so far.

My suggestion to this would be to run the Senior championship to include every club in the County. However do not give the options to the clubs to amalgamate, but the Co Board divides the County into 16 areas, 4x4 groups and appoint managers and coaches to each team. If a club is big enough they can enter on their own, Kingscourt for example, but in East Cavan shall we say, Cuchullains could join Killinkere etc...this not only brings potential county players to an acceptable level, it nurtures coaches and managers too. The championship and league for senior, inter and junior could run concurrently also, use the league to determine who the quaterfinalists would be for the championship?? The winners of the senior league would represent the county in Ulster, however the winners of the Divisional competition would be senior champions.

There are other ideas where you could run the leagues more compeitively, by awarding teams placed higher in the leagues seeding in the championship etc, this would improve competitiveness but would need to be further teased out.

Secondly and its something that no-one has mentioned yet and that is tiredness. We started last Sat with 5 players who had just completed a full U21 campaign, possibly Siegerson campaign and club games also. I will pick Geroid McKiernan as an example. Swad got to an All Ireland, he played Siegerson and he dipped in and out of the seniors throughout the league. In actual fact I would say since he came back from the US at the end of last summer he could on average have played 3 games a week. Now from speaking to Swad men I know, Gearoid is GAA mad and has no problem doing this but against Donegal and Longford were we asking too much of the likes of McKiernan and Murray to carry the can??? Should they not have been used as impact subs instead?? or at least in a less central role?? Just a thought??

On a last note wheras I am disappointed with how we have bowed out, 2011 for me will always be about that game vs Tyrone in Enniskillen, nights like that is what supporting Cavan is all about, however few and far between they may be..
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: footballmad on June 29, 2011, 12:05:53 PM
Tommy are you ok? What has annoyed you? Please do tell.

Now take a few breaths and relax.............................................. you ok now? Ok go back and look at my posts, now find the word achievements.
Did i ever as for a list of this? Not too many people will have alot to brag about in this county.

Ill break it down for you.. ARE YOU DOING ANYTHING TO HELP CAVAN FOOTBALL?
When answering this please note, 1) this does not involve posting on the board and 2) been very childish  :P

PIU- Sounds like you do nothing aswell
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on June 29, 2011, 12:13:19 PM
Quote from: footballmad on June 29, 2011, 12:05:53 PM
Tommy are you ok? What has annoyed you? Please do tell.

Now take a few breaths and relax.............................................. you ok now? Ok go back and look at my posts, now find the word achievements.
Did i ever as for a list of this? Not too many people will have alot to brag about in this county.

Ill break it down for you.. ARE YOU DOING ANYTHING TO HELP CAVAN FOOTBALL?
When answering this please note, 1) this does not involve posting on the board and 2) been very childish  :P

PIU- Sounds like you do nothing aswell


Why does it sound like he does nothing, just because he didn't tell you on this board?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on June 29, 2011, 12:16:32 PM
Quote from: Benny on June 29, 2011, 11:14:12 AM
They are all coming out of the woodwork now!!

Like Footballmad am a long time reader, first time poster.

Have two points, firstly have to agree with Tommy's last post, the attitude of the majority of the clubs in Cavan is get the seniors out of the way and get on with the club scene. Dont get me wrong, a strong club scene is commendable, but we need to structure the club championship in such a way that instead of interfering with an with the All Ireland run it helps bring players on. Clubs hate to loose their players at important points in the playing year, hence players are not encouraged to play with the county. However sheltering panel members by asking them not to play with their clubs is wrong, the majority of players over U21 level need football and this p*sses the clubs off. If for example I was Mickey Brennan, and stuck by the rules of the County panel, I would have played less football than an ordinary club player this year so far.

My suggestion to this would be to run the Senior championship to include every club in the County. However do not give the options to the clubs to amalgamate, but the Co Board divides the County into 16 areas, 4x4 groups and appoint managers and coaches to each team. If a club is big enough they can enter on their own, Kingscourt for example, but in East Cavan shall we say, Cuchullains could join Killinkere etc...this not only brings potential county players to an acceptable level, it nurtures coaches and managers too. The championship and league for senior, inter and junior could run concurrently also, use the league to determine who the quaterfinalists would be for the championship?? The winners of the senior league would represent the county in Ulster, however the winners of the Divisional competition would be senior champions.

There are other ideas where you could run the leagues more compeitively, by awarding teams placed higher in the leagues seeding in the championship etc, this would improve competitiveness but would need to be further teased out.

Secondly and its something that no-one has mentioned yet and that is tiredness. We started last Sat with 5 players who had just completed a full U21 campaign, possibly Siegerson campaign and club games also. I will pick Geroid McKiernan as an example. Swad got to an All Ireland, he played Siegerson and he dipped in and out of the seniors throughout the league. In actual fact I would say since he came back from the US at the end of last summer he could on average have played 3 games a week. Now from speaking to Swad men I know, Gearoid is GAA mad and has no problem doing this but against Donegal and Longford were we asking too much of the likes of McKiernan and Murray to carry the can??? Should they not have been used as impact subs instead?? or at least in a less central role?? Just a thought??

On a last note wheras I am disappointed with how we have bowed out, 2011 for me will always be about that game vs Tyrone in Enniskillen, nights like that is what supporting Cavan is all about, however few and far between they may be..

Good post Benny and welcome to the board.
I agree with most of that.
We need to run the Junior and Intermediate off before the senior,and then as you say have an enlarged Senior Championship.
Running them concurrently just will not work,as i know Blackwater Gaels,had Munterconnacht,Maghera and Mountugent players playing both Junior and Senior Championship in the one weekend 2 years back,which is just not on.

Cavan Gaels
Lacken
Kingscourt
Redhills
Mullahoran
Drumalee
Belturbet
Lavey
Castlerahan
Gowna
Denn
Ballinagh
Cuchullains
Killygarry
Ramor

+Amalgamations like
(Drumlane,Killeshandra)
(Drumgoon,Cootehill)  :D
(Drung,Kill,Laragh)
(Shercock,Knockbride)
(Baileborough,Killinkere)
(Buttlersbridge,Ballyhaise)
(Crosserlough,Ballymachugh)
(Mountnugent,Maghera,Munterconnacht)
(Kildallan,Templeport)
(Arva,Cornafean)
(Swad,Corough,Shannon Gaels)

That would be a 26 team Senior championship.
With every club being represented in the Senior championship
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up-again on June 29, 2011, 12:31:48 PM
Quote from: footballmad on June 29, 2011, 12:05:53 PM
Tommy are you ok? What has annoyed you? Please do tell.

Now take a few breaths and relax.............................................. you ok now? Ok go back and look at my posts, now find the word achievements.
Did i ever as for a list of this? Not too many people will have alot to brag about in this county.

Ill break it down for you.. ARE YOU DOING ANYTHING TO HELP CAVAN FOOTBALL?
When answering this please note, 1) this does not involve posting on the board and 2) been very childish  :P

PIU- Sounds like you do nothing aswell

I'm not justifying myself to you, I know what I've done! What club are you from? Maybe you already stated it but I didn't see it...
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on June 29, 2011, 01:18:51 PM
On the point of amalgamations: I've seen West Cavan Gaels, TP Kildallan Corlough and Shannon Gaels get hammered by Belturbet. Partly because Belturbet were miles ahead in terms of pace and skill but also because some of the better players weren't involved, it was the usual local faces involved in management that nobody really wants to train under and the better players didn't attend training and some were called just for the game. It needs outside management to attend some club games, get to know who's who and call these lads up to the amalgamation teams.

I think Blackwater Gaels got on better that year but for West Cavan I would suggest amaglamating Corlough TP and Kildallan and let them compete in intermediate for a few years. Some may say that's irrelevant you're not going to get any county players from this end of the county anyway but I've seen a lot of some very good talent coming from Corlough, lads who played Div 1 Minor football, wasted to Junior football and there's an U16 team from Templeport at the top of Division 1 who will fall by the wayside unless they have a better standard of football to be involved with when they come of age. Standards must be raised at the top but also the bottom..

Tom Reilly does have a plan for this, he spoke about it at Swad's homecoming after the AI Final.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on June 29, 2011, 01:37:28 PM
Quote from: footballmad on June 29, 2011, 12:05:53 PM
Tommy are you ok? What has annoyed you? Please do tell.

Now take a few breaths and relax.............................................. you ok now? Ok go back and look at my posts, now find the word achievements.
Did i ever as for a list of this? Not too many people will have alot to brag about in this county.

Ill break it down for you.. ARE YOU DOING ANYTHING TO HELP CAVAN FOOTBALL?
When answering this please note, 1) this does not involve posting on the board and 2) been very childish  :P

PIU- Sounds like you do nothing aswell

You are a wum and should head back over to HS until September.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BigMac on June 29, 2011, 01:43:53 PM
Nooooo!! Has someone told the Hoganstand that we're here?
Footballmad AKA Tomsmith!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on June 29, 2011, 01:51:34 PM
Quote from: Westside on June 29, 2011, 01:18:51 PM
On the point of amalgamations: I've seen West Cavan Gaels, TP Kildallan Corlough and Shannon Gaels get hammered by Belturbet. Partly because Belturbet were miles ahead in terms of pace and skill but also because some of the better players weren't involved, it was the usual local faces involved in management that nobody really wants to train under and the better players didn't attend training and some were called just for the game. It needs outside management to attend some club games, get to know who's who and call these lads up to the amalgamation teams.

I think Blackwater Gaels got on better that year but for West Cavan I would suggest amaglamating Corlough TP and Kildallan and let them compete in intermediate for a few years. Some may say that's irrelevant you're not going to get any county players from this end of the county anyway but I've seen a lot of some very good talent coming from Corlough, lads who played Div 1 Minor football, wasted to Junior football and there's an U16 team from Templeport at the top of Division 1 who will fall by the wayside unless they have a better standard of football to be involved with when they come of age. Standards must be raised at the top but also the bottom..

Tom Reilly does have a plan for this, he spoke about it at Swad's homecoming after the AI Final.

There are lots of good footballers in West Cavan as you say Westside.
Kieran McManus of T'port is one of the most underrated players in the county and deserved at least a place on the County Juniors this year.
Enda McHugh of Shannon Gaels is another good footballer,Is Eamon O Reily playing ball with the Gaels aswell,or did he emigrate?
Ronan Reily of Kildallan is another good player.
Joesph Prior of Corlough is a very solid fullback,
An amalgamation of T'port/Kildallan/Shannon Gaels/Corlough would be tough to beat in Intermediate.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on June 29, 2011, 02:44:51 PM
Kieran Mac is indeed the pick of them at the moment. Very very strong and can kick a score. His goal against Mountnugent in Bawn a few months back was one of the best pieces of marksmanship I have ever seen. He was doing well in the Cavan development squad until he broke his wrist/hand.. Lets hope he's not forgotten about and given another chance next year. Would it not be better giving the likes of him a run on the Juniors in place of Jason Reilly?..
Ronan Reilly is a decent player but temperamental, he's gone to Boston and it's doubtful we'll see him in a Kildallan or Cavan jersey again.. I think Eamon O'Reilly is still around but perhaps I'm wrong in saying that!

It would be unfair to allow a 4 team amalgamation into Intermediate, especially since SG are Division 2 League and will be challenging Junior. TP, Corlough and Kildallan would only be able for intermediate at this stage and with the proper management and training together could maybe do well. That could leave Swad and SG to combine for Senior perhaps.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on June 29, 2011, 03:49:21 PM
After swadlinbar winning ulster ::) and getting to the all ireland final i thought they would have one or 2 other players inlvollved with either the junior or senior panel. Mark or John Cunningham or chris curran with the u21s
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: full moon on June 29, 2011, 04:49:53 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on June 29, 2011, 03:49:21 PM
After swadlinbar winning ulster ::) and getting to the all ireland final i thought they would have one or 2 other players inlvollved with either the junior or senior panel. Mark or John Cunningham or chris curran with the u21s
Gearoid McKiernan?

Whatever happened to the Cunningham on the county from Swad a few years back, he looked a good player.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: full moon on June 29, 2011, 04:56:48 PM
In the Celt it looks confirmed Hyland and Andrews staying on. Dont know what to make of that, most wont be too happy I'd say. The joint manager thing will never work anyway.
Ah well, I doubt we would get anyone better unless we had money, and by the looks of things we are low on funds.

Also see it looks like M Brennan is retiring from county. Real shame that, I think he is our best forward after Seanie quite easily. How he started neither game especially against Longford when we had several defenders in the forward line I'll never know. Another good player lost, at this stage we could line out a club XI that would defeat the County seniors easily.
But if we have the same management it is to be expected since he didnt get a chance.

Also next years panel will be picked by the end of the club Championship. Its fair to say there wil be alot of withdrawals by this time next year.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on June 29, 2011, 05:12:25 PM
Quote from: Westside on June 29, 2011, 02:44:51 PM
Kieran Mac is indeed the pick of them at the moment. Very very strong and can kick a score. His goal against Mountnugent in Bawn a few months back was one of the best pieces of marksmanship I have ever seen. He was doing well in the Cavan development squad until he broke his wrist/hand.. Lets hope he's not forgotten about and given another chance next year. Would it not be better giving the likes of him a run on the Juniors in place of Jason Reilly?..
Ronan Reilly is a decent player but temperamental, he's gone to Boston and it's doubtful we'll see him in a Kildallan or Cavan jersey again.. I think Eamon O'Reilly is still around but perhaps I'm wrong in saying that!

It would be unfair to allow a 4 team amalgamation into Intermediate, especially since SG are Division 2 League and will be challenging Junior. TP, Corlough and Kildallan would only be able for intermediate at this stage and with the proper management and training together could maybe do well. That could leave Swad and SG to combine for Senior perhaps.

Indeed,Aaron Duignan is another big miss for Kildallan,hes emigrated too hasnt he?
Definetely amalgamations are the way to go to try and improve football in the county.
We need the likes of David Givney,Gearoid McK etc to be playing senior championship,and Senior championship football would give the likes of Kieran McManus the exposure that might see him get the recognition he deserves.
Well worth a go in the McKenna Cup and National League next year,as he has Size,Power and strength unlike too many of players on the scene right now.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on June 29, 2011, 05:16:21 PM
Quote from: full moon on June 29, 2011, 04:56:48 PM
In the Celt it looks confirmed Hyland and Andrews staying on. Dont know what to make of that, most wont be too happy I'd say. The joint manager thing will never work anyway.
Ah well, I doubt we would get anyone better unless we had money, and by the looks of things we are low on funds.

Also see it looks like M Brennan is retiring from county. Real shame that, I think he is our best forward after Seanie quite easily. How he started neither game especially against Longford when we had several defenders in the forward line I'll never know. Another good player lost, at this stage we could line out a club XI that would defeat the County seniors easily.
But if we have the same management it is to be expected since he didnt get a chance.

Also next years panel will be picked by the end of the club Championship. Its fair to say there wil be alot of withdrawals by this time next year.

Agreed with you on this FM,and im sure Boojangles will be outspoken about the disgraceful treatment of his clubmate.
He was Cavan's player aginst Fermanagh last year,and changed the Wicklow game when he went out to midfield,where he dominated.
Yet hes deemed not good enough to start in either of the championship games shambles this year???
It would be a shame if thats the last time we have seen him in a Cavan jersey.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on June 29, 2011, 05:28:53 PM
John Cunningham from Swad played with the Seniors in 2008. Decent player, big and strong but not up to County Standard.. Aaron Duignan is still at home but probably won't play football again due to injury. Totally agree with you on Givney and McKiernan, they need Senior Championship football to let them progress.
I like Brennan, nice lad, used to have a pub in Ballyc but he was woeful when he came on against Longford.. He'd be a useful lad to keep around though.

Just read The Celt, some very interesting reading.. Can anyone closer to the setup shed some light on what might have been said and between who in the dressing room after the game?? Also, Johnston does seem to be getting even more criticism this year than usual.. Even the Celt with the story on how he wouldn't give an interview.. Anyone think he this might get to him and he'd walk away?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on June 29, 2011, 05:48:46 PM
Keeping my own counsel on things here but I'll throw a few comments in for what their worth...

Does everybody in the county think that amalgamations are the answer to our problems?  That suddenly if we line out a Cavan team with 15 footballers playing Senior Club Championship that all will be well again.  You can probably gather from my tone what my opinion is on the matter...

Another point is that playing the Inter and Junior Championships before the Senior - basically to get them over and done and out of the way - would send a terrible message to all the Inter & Junior footballers in Cavan on how the value and importance of their championship - which would have to be a backward step surely.

Also not every great County footballer plays at a Senior club level in other counties - granted a fair few do but take for example Dick Clerkin in Monaghan, Brian Dooher in Tyrone....

While I'm definitely not against amalgamations just for the sake of it - they are a very useful thing to use in certain circumstances, I think they are being lined up as a quick fix and cover all solution to our current woes
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on June 29, 2011, 06:01:15 PM
Quote from: Celt_Man on June 29, 2011, 05:48:46 PM
Keeping my own counsel on things here but I'll throw a few comments in for what their worth...

Does everybody in the county think that amalgamations are the answer to our problems?  That suddenly if we line out a Cavan team with 15 footballers playing Senior Club Championship that all will be well again.  You can probably gather from my tone what my opinion is on the matter...

Another point is that playing the Inter and Junior Championships before the Senior - basically to get them over and done and out of the way - would send a terrible message to all the Inter & Junior footballers in Cavan on how the value and importance of their championship - which would have to be a backward step surely.

Also not every great County footballer plays at a Senior club level in other counties - granted a fair few do but take for example Dick Clerkin in Monaghan, Brian Dooher in Tyrone....

While I'm definitely not against amalgamations just for the sake of it - they are a very useful thing to use in certain circumstances, I think they are being lined up as a quick fix and cover all solution to our current woes

It certainly wont solve our problems on its own,it may help IMO.
Scheduling the Intermediate and Junior from say May-July, would shorten the season for some players no doubt,but ask yourself this CM,would winning an intermediate for Cootehill  in such a format take anything away from it? personally for me,i dont think it would take anything away from it
It would still be a memorable acheivement.
With regards to Tyrone/Monaghan.however,maybe im wrong and if i am point it out,but those two counties dont seem to have a problem getting some of their best club footballers to turn out for them like we seem to do. Some of the best performers in club football in Cavan just wont play for the county team. The likes of Carlow had the same problems with getting players from the great Eire Og teams to commit.
If you look at the Kerry system,virtually all of their county panelists with junior and intermediate clubs will play Senior Championship football  with the divisional sides, like East/South Kerry.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on June 29, 2011, 06:08:02 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on June 29, 2011, 06:01:15 PM
Quote from: Celt_Man on June 29, 2011, 05:48:46 PM
Keeping my own counsel on things here but I'll throw a few comments in for what their worth...

Does everybody in the county think that amalgamations are the answer to our problems?  That suddenly if we line out a Cavan team with 15 footballers playing Senior Club Championship that all will be well again.  You can probably gather from my tone what my opinion is on the matter...

Another point is that playing the Inter and Junior Championships before the Senior - basically to get them over and done and out of the way - would send a terrible message to all the Inter & Junior footballers in Cavan on how the value and importance of their championship - which would have to be a backward step surely.

Also not every great County footballer plays at a Senior club level in other counties - granted a fair few do but take for example Dick Clerkin in Monaghan, Brian Dooher in Tyrone....

While I'm definitely not against amalgamations just for the sake of it - they are a very useful thing to use in certain circumstances, I think they are being lined up as a quick fix and cover all solution to our current woes

It certainly wont solve our problems on its own,it may help IMO.
Scheduling the Intermediate and Junior from say May-July, would shorten the season for some players no doubt,but ask yourself this CM,would winning an intermediate for Cootehill  in such a format take anything away from it? personally for me,i dont think it would take anything away from it
It would still be a memorable acheivement.
With regards to Tyrone/Monaghan.however,maybe im wrong and if i am point it out,but those two counties dont seem to have a problem getting some of their best club footballers to turn out for them like we seem to do. Some of the best performers in club football in Cavan just wont play for the county team. The likes of Carlow had the same problems with getting players from the great Eire Og teams to commit.
If you look at the Kerry system,virtually all of their county panelists with junior and intermediate clubs will play Senior Championship football either with the divisional sides, like East/South Kerry.

No it certainly wouldn't but it would f**k up royally your preparation for Ulster Inter Club Champo and the same with Junior.  Not sure how you could factor in County Commitments into that too.

Only only club will win the championship though, for the 15 other clubs to be finished football in July... Jaysus the County would be like a ghost town with boys going off - serious knock on effect for coaching youngster within a club

Aye your right about Tyrone and Monaghan, in Cavan over the last number of years there has been a general feeling of apathy and indifference towards the County team and set-up and it will be hard shifted
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on June 29, 2011, 06:26:40 PM
I know about Mckiernan meant the other lads like the cunningham and curran
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Benny on June 29, 2011, 09:09:17 PM
Before I start this I wish to say
(1) its only a suggestion, we are trying to improve things afterall
(2) I have spent my life with a small club in Cavan, I know we would, and have fought tooth and nail to hold on to our divisional status...these suggestions probably wouldnt even make it out of our clubrooms!!!!

As a footnote each club in the county currently plays approx 20 or so games a season.

This is how we could work it. Change the current set up into 4 divisions. What would happen is that at the county convention at end 2011 you tell all club delegates that the top 10 ten teams in Div 1 at the end of 2012 will form the "Senior Division". The remaining 6 teams from that division will join the top 4 teams in div 2 to form an "Intermediate Division", the next 10 teams in Div 2 would Form a "Junior Division" and the remaining teams would form a 4th Division (to be named appropriately). The League/Championship would start on the first weekend in march and each team plays 18 matches, with or without County players, which given weekends off for County all Ireland series would bring us up to mid July or so.

After the 18 matches we take a break and play the Senior Championship as described in my previous post, county split into sections, clubs amalgamate...etc and this would take place in late July/August, 4 groups, 3 games each, winner of each group into Semis, then final. In September the top 8 teams from the earlier club matches play off in a knock out championship competition in each Div and the two bottom teams play in a shield. The winner of the shield stays up, loser goes down. Winner of all divisions goes forward in Ulster  (apart from the 4th Div)and in Inter, Junior and 4th Div winner gets promoted.

This will
(1) give all club players the chance to play a senior campaign if they are good enough. This will as stated before bring players to a higher standard required to play with the county team.
(2) will give the management the chance to see all players in competitive action.
(3) give coaches and managers the chance to compete at a higher level, future managers from inside the county will be born.
(4) bring a competitive edge to the current league and bring an end to meaningless games...everyone is fighting for something.
(5) will give each club teh opportunity to win a championship in its own right and bring pride to their area, whilst giving their better players a chance to shine at a different level.

This format allows clubs to compete at their own level on a weekly basis. It also strengthens our teams going into Ulster at Inter and Junior level at least. 

These are only the tip of the iceberg in what needs to be done to improve football in Cavan...but it could be a start.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: whats my name on June 29, 2011, 09:36:54 PM
we joined up for the senior as blackwater gaels was a great expierence but it wasnt run right we had to play a junior game on a friday then we were expected to tog out sunday for a senior game it was a total joke i rember i was just about able to swing my leg at the ball in the games because i was that f*cked. if it was ran right and gave players time to recover in between matches it would work fairly well.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BigMac on June 29, 2011, 10:13:27 PM

Indeed,Aaron Duignan is another big miss for Kildallan,hes emigrated too hasnt he?
Definetely amalgamations are the way to go to try and improve football in the county.
We need the likes of David Givney,Gearoid McK etc to be playing senior championship,and Senior championship football would give the likes of Kieran McManus the exposure that might see him get the recognition he deserves.
Well worth a go in the McKenna Cup and National League next year,as he has Size,Power and strength unlike too many of players on the scene right now.
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David Givney won't even be playing Junior championship this year. He's heading away to Chicago. This, to me, looks like a lad who had planned to go as soon as Cavan were knocked out, and possibly not someone who wanted to stay and win a few games in the qualifiers and miss his summer in the States. I could be wrong, but if the decision was made, and public knowledge 3 days after the game is over, it just gives the impression that he had thought about this before these games were played.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4sam on June 29, 2011, 10:37:38 PM
I knew David Givney was going to Chicago before the U21 AIF was even played, there was no date set just that he was going when Cavan were knocked out. Good attitude??
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on June 29, 2011, 10:40:32 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on June 29, 2011, 05:16:21 PM
Quote from: full moon on June 29, 2011, 04:56:48 PM
In the Celt it looks confirmed Hyland and Andrews staying on. Dont know what to make of that, most wont be too happy I'd say. The joint manager thing will never work anyway.
Ah well, I doubt we would get anyone better unless we had money, and by the looks of things we are low on funds.

Also see it looks like M Brennan is retiring from county. Real shame that, I think he is our best forward after Seanie quite easily. How he started neither game especially against Longford when we had several defenders in the forward line I'll never know. Another good player lost, at this stage we could line out a club XI that would defeat the County seniors easily.
But if we have the same management it is to be expected since he didnt get a chance.

Also next years panel will be picked by the end of the club Championship. Its fair to say there wil be alot of withdrawals by this time next year.

Agreed with you on this FM,and im sure Boojangles will be outspoken about the disgraceful treatment of his clubmate.
He was Cavan's player aginst Fermanagh last year,and changed the Wicklow game when he went out to midfield,where he dominated.
Yet hes deemed not good enough to start in either of the championship games shambles this year???
It would be a shame if thats the last time we have seen him in a Cavan jersey.

I have never hidden my identity on here, I could say plenty which would highlight how amateur the set-up is in Cavan but it's just not worth it anymore. The more things change the more they stay the same in Cavan and to be honest I don't really care anymore. Once I heard the proper team for Saturday I didnt even go to the game and boy was I glad. I have only missed 3 Championship games in about 20 years but there is only so long you can keep supporting the same crap. Most of the lads give 100% and deserve success but IMO they need a McGeeney type figure to achieve that.
Have we anybody in the county with the skills to do such a job? Anthony Forde always struck me as a winner. I'd definitely like to see more of him on the scene as it looks like Terry and Val are going nowhere.

Good debate on amalgamations and in general I agree that they could be the way forward but the only way they might work is for them to start from underage upwards. Look at the amount of amalgamations we have around U-16 and Minor level. If these links can be sustained through to Senior level then it can only be a good thing.
Take Redhills as a shining example. Redbridge had been competing at Division One level at underage for a number of years. Now look how many lads they have coming through who previously may not have got a chance to play at a higher level eg. Rory Dunne, Oisin Minagh, Turloc Mooney, Packie Leddy while Redhills are top of Division One.
Benny- you do make some good points but what you are suggesting is just too hard to administer IMO.Who will be picking the managers and areas? Do you honestly think all clubs would allow the County Board officials to dictate on important matters like this. It would take a massive seachange in attitudes from all clubs and the County Board and to be honest I don't think that is possible in Cavan.
I also couldn't agree about your other point about turning the League into 4 Divisions. Creating an even lower standard division in Cavan is madness IMO and in fairness to the County Board they are doing something about it by having more teams in Senior and Intermediate.

On another point- Alot of clubs could take the lead from what I notice Celt Man and the Cootehill club are doing in terms of setting out a 5 year plan in relation to 5 key areas- Coaching and Games, Finance, Facilities, Structures and Administration and Communications,PR and Culture. Philip Smith former County Chairman is facilitating the process.
Indeed the County Board could have a look at it also.
Like anything in life if you don't set targets and goals then you will never achieve anything.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on June 29, 2011, 10:43:52 PM
Gowna beat lacken by 12pts tonight, Mckeever had a great game for gowna and Pierson was very good at centre forward. Dont know what the story was him not being involved for the championship, i have always rated as good as johnston or better..
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on June 29, 2011, 10:46:05 PM
Quote from: cavan4sam on June 29, 2011, 10:37:38 PM
I knew David Givney was going to Chicago before the U21 AIF was even played, there was no date set just that he was going when Cavan were knocked out. Good attitude??

I wouldn't blame the lad one bit. I hope he has a ball. There is more to life than football. You can hang around Cavan playing football until your 35 and get sweet FA in return.
Any word on another of the younger Senior players going also?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on June 29, 2011, 10:52:01 PM
I don't see anything wrong with that.. There's only a few counties that could hope to be involved all summer. Cavan ain't one of these. I couldn't fault him for effort anytime I've seen him play this year, I'd imagine it was never a case of hoping to get knocked out early to get away. Keating is gone with him. Best of luck to them and hopefully they come back with a thirst to get stuck in for next year.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanforever on June 29, 2011, 11:18:48 PM
i believe keating is jetting off to Chicago along with givney. both clubs star men gone for the championship say there managers are going up the wall. also heard rumours of johnston and lyng aswell but not sure.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up-again on June 29, 2011, 11:55:03 PM
Quote from: boojangles on June 29, 2011, 10:46:05 PM
Quote from: cavan4sam on June 29, 2011, 10:37:38 PM
I knew David Givney was going to Chicago before the U21 AIF was even played, there was no date set just that he was going when Cavan were knocked out. Good attitude??

I wouldn't blame the lad one bit. I hope he has a ball. There is more to life than football. You can hang around Cavan playing football until your 35 and get sweet FA in return.
Any word on another of the younger Senior players going also?

Agree with you completely BooJ. Credit to the lads, they stuck around for as long were Cavan in the championship. The fact is there is no way we were going to be involved in championship football in August this year so does anyone on this board really expect them to sit at home all summer with no work?

You have to look after number one in life and the two boys trained all year for Cavan and gave it a shot. They have every right to head off once the campaign was over. They could have very easily jetted off the week after the Donegal game but they stuck around.

I know if I didn't have work I wouldn't be too far behind them.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4sam on June 30, 2011, 12:22:10 AM
I wasn't saying there was anything wrong with these lads going, just pointing out that it was old news but seems there own clubmen were the last to know, at least in Givneys case. These lads need to look after number because at the end of the day staying at home to play football will not put money in these lads pockets!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on June 30, 2011, 09:03:57 AM
Its all fun and games.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on June 30, 2011, 02:08:48 PM
From the Bowl C thread on the main board.  Very apt.  The only thing missing is the Oxegen ticket stub.

The only way is up.

Quote from: Donnellys Hollow on June 29, 2011, 05:43:20 PM
The Cavan hamsters were subject to a rigorous pre-qualifier draw training regime:

(http://30.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_le9jl5UG0U1qekpqeo1_500.jpg)

Quote from: Jinxy on June 30, 2011, 01:10:40 PM
The Cavan hamsters discuss the draw.

(http://break4fun.zarke.net/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/funny-hamster-17.jpg)

Hamster 1: "Looks like it's a trip to Cork again lads".
Hamster 2: "I picked a bad week to give up the fags".
Hamster 3: "I dunno lads we'd a great weekend down there last year."
Hamster 1: "We were beat out the gate!"
Hamster 3: "Were we?"
Hamster 2: "I remember being hammered alright...."
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on July 01, 2011, 05:18:47 PM
Quote from: Denn Forever on June 30, 2011, 02:08:48 PM
From the Bowl C thread on the main board.  Very apt.  The only thing missing is the Oxegen ticket stub.

The only way is up.

Quote from: Donnellys Hollow on June 29, 2011, 05:43:20 PM
The Cavan hamsters were subject to a rigorous pre-qualifier draw training regime:

(http://30.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_le9jl5UG0U1qekpqeo1_500.jpg)

Quote from: Jinxy on June 30, 2011, 01:10:40 PM
The Cavan hamsters discuss the draw.

(http://break4fun.zarke.net/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/funny-hamster-17.jpg)

Hamster 1: "Looks like it's a trip to Cork again lads".
Hamster 2: "I picked a bad week to give up the fags".
Hamster 3: "I dunno lads we'd a great weekend down there last year."
Hamster 1: "We were beat out the gate!"
Hamster 3: "Were we?"
Hamster 2: "I remember being hammered alright...."

We'r a fu**ing laughing stock and I hope every potential Player,Selector, Manager and anybody else with an influence on Cavan football sees the above.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on July 02, 2011, 03:41:39 PM
Minor game tomorrow then lads... No team named yet? I don't think they have a prayer but I do hope I'm wrong.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on July 02, 2011, 05:57:05 PM
Without knowing a lot about them they surely have a chance. By all accounts Tyrone are not as strong as other years and we did really hammer antrim. It might be closer than you think and I hope we can squeak a win, we need something to lift the spirits around here.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on July 03, 2011, 06:34:44 AM
Could we ever depend on a Cavan minor team to land a blow for the county's pride when the chips are down and the fat's in the fire? Not traditionally, but the U21s lifted our spirits earlier this year and pray to God lightning can strike twice. You never know.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on July 03, 2011, 02:04:33 PM
Tipp minors beat cork in the munster final by 8 points this morning so Cavan losing by 3 pts in a challenge to them has to be looked at in a different light
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on July 03, 2011, 03:47:55 PM
Dublin Minors also beat Cavan in a challenge by 19 points so perhaps we'd be better tell ourselves that League and Challenge games mean very little! :) Don't think I'll get to this game, anyone know where I could listen to it or get updates?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on July 03, 2011, 03:57:57 PM
Best place is on this site for updates, I doubt its on the radio. Drici or beo are good for score updates on the main gaa page.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on July 03, 2011, 07:05:54 PM
http://www.q101west.fm/portal/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=155&Itemid=54
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: beer baron on July 03, 2011, 07:11:26 PM
Quote from: Westside on July 03, 2011, 07:05:54 PM
http://www.q101west.fm/portal/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=155&Itemid=54

Good man westside!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on July 03, 2011, 07:20:18 PM
Its on Northern sound aswell with Michael O Muircheartaigh :D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on July 03, 2011, 07:58:23 PM
Level with 15 left. It's these sort of games that Cavan usually come out of the wrong side at Minor Level.. C'mon lads!!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on July 03, 2011, 08:03:22 PM
Tyrone seem to be getting on top too
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: beer baron on July 03, 2011, 08:04:37 PM
Goal at the right time :)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on July 03, 2011, 08:05:17 PM
Cavan 3 ahead goal from connor finnegan
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: beer baron on July 03, 2011, 08:06:41 PM
ANOTHER GOAL-class
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on July 03, 2011, 08:06:56 PM
And another. Come on lads
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on July 03, 2011, 08:07:44 PM
Another from Finnegan after a great ball from Nevin O'Donnell and he follows it up with a point himself. Regardless of how it goes from here credit to Nevin who has had a family bereavement and still turned out to play this evening.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on July 03, 2011, 08:08:09 PM
Nevin o donnell making a big difference since he same on
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on July 03, 2011, 08:20:25 PM
Cavan won 2-13 to 2-10 great win.. playing Armagh in two time 8)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on July 03, 2011, 08:26:04 PM
thanks for the updates, delighted to see our underage lads getting the tyrone monkey of the backs. Two games (at least) left now I'm fairly sure
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on July 03, 2011, 08:26:45 PM
Fair play to the lads, delighted that I was completely wrong. Even with all the giving out we did about the Seniors this year, if someone offered you an U21 Ulster title and a Minor Final at the beginning of the year, you'd snap their hand off...
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on July 03, 2011, 08:27:47 PM
Well done to the Lads.

And I don't want to hear about when nets were introduced or when teams went down to 15 a side.

But it was worth it at the end.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up-again on July 03, 2011, 08:30:23 PM
Delighted for the Minors. Maybe the tide is actually starting to turn....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=55476dCgSsw  ;D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on July 03, 2011, 08:37:05 PM
Well done to the minors, great to get another one over on tyrone. From what I've seen armagh looked a tight outfit but maybe this win can lift our lads another level. Great stuff.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on July 03, 2011, 08:37:53 PM
Fair play to lads time to jump on the bandwagon now.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on July 03, 2011, 08:39:15 PM
When was our last Minor Final??
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up-again on July 03, 2011, 08:44:51 PM
win lose or draw we are guaranteed an All-Ireland QF as well
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on July 03, 2011, 09:35:41 PM
Looks like things are being done right at underage level.

I wonder what impact the likes of McCabe and Forde are having on these teams.
Title: Ulster minor football championship final
Post by: footy15 on July 03, 2011, 09:52:47 PM
Will we win another Ulster tital this year?
Title: Re: Ulster minor football championship final
Post by: tommysmith on July 03, 2011, 09:55:34 PM
You are fond of starting threads, it will be tough Armagh looked good in their semi final.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: trim blue on July 03, 2011, 10:08:27 PM
Just what the doctor ordered, fair play to those young lads and the management. Is Tyrone football in crisis ;D. BTW Anglo Celt, saw an earlier post and I too was there in '69 for the AISF, still haven't forgiven Greenan for that free and to think we were gutted after dethroning the All Ireland Champions to win Ulster and only getting beaten in an AISF replay? Little did we know what was ahead of us..
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tierworker blue on July 03, 2011, 10:22:40 PM
Great win this evening...god bless the youth!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on July 03, 2011, 11:42:21 PM
Quote from: trim blue on July 03, 2011, 10:08:27 PM
Just what the doctor ordered, fair play to those young lads and the management. Is Tyrone football in crisis ;D. BTW Anglo Celt, saw an earlier post and I too was there in '69 for the AISF, still haven't forgiven Greenan for that free and to think we were gutted after dethroning the All Ireland Champions to win Ulster and only getting beaten in an AISF replay? Little did we know what was ahead of us..


unless I'm mistaken brought on as a feckin sub to replace the late great Charlie Gallagher just to really rub it in..............more importantly good outcome tonight. It's a long way back but we are starting to turn out lads who should have  no fear of their fellow Ulster teams which is an important start.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Babe Ruth 47 on July 04, 2011, 09:19:19 AM
Do I sense a bandwagon coming?? Brilliant result, great lift for the county.

Very interesting listening to John Evans on the radio this morning talking about Tipps win, talking about it being a 3 year plan starting with a U-15 development squad. Same squad has won at U-15/16/17 and now 18. Goes to show with the right men at the right levers and a good system in place what can be done, even in weaker counties.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on July 04, 2011, 10:45:43 AM
We've nothing yet.

Has there not been an U16 development squad in Cavan for the last few years and we are beginning to see the fruits of it in the U21 and minor teams?

The big step will be translating it to the Senior team and best of luck to the Juniors on Wednesday.

Just thinking it will be interesting in the O'Mara household in a few years time.  Where do they play on the Bailieboro teams?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on July 04, 2011, 11:19:08 AM
Quote from: Denn Forever on July 04, 2011, 10:45:43 AM

Just thinking it will be interesting in the O'Mara household in a few years time.  Where do they play on the Bailieboro teams?

Id say there is a good chance they play in goals but i could be wrong.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Breffni_Yank on July 04, 2011, 11:28:40 AM
Quote from: Denn Forever on July 04, 2011, 10:45:43 AM
We've nothing yet.

Has there not been an U16 development squad in Cavan for the last few years and we are beginning to see the fruits of it in the U21 and minor teams?

The big step will be translating it to the Senior team and best of luck to the Juniors on Wednesday.

Just thinking it will be interesting in the O'Mara household in a few years time.  Where do they play on the Bailieboro teams?

Interestingly Bailieborough have know produced the minor goalkeeper for the last 5 years.

2011: B O'Mara
2010: C Gilsenan
2009: C Gilsenan
2008: A O'Mara
2007: A O'Mara

A few clubs might be sniffing around looking for a goalkeeper, no more so than ourselves ;D I'm sure Kingscourt will be sniffing about too because I don't think any of them play out the field.

Delighted to see the Minors make a final. The u21 team this year came along and made a breakthrough and it looks like that is already feeding off on our younger players.

If only we can sort out this mess at senior level.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: beer baron on July 04, 2011, 12:00:10 PM
Would i be right in saying our last minor victory in Ulster was in '74? Would be some achievement if the boys did it!
Title: Re: Ulster minor football championship final
Post by: Denn Forever on July 04, 2011, 12:30:49 PM
Can anyone post the team from yesterday and the clubs they play for?  Only listened to it on Northern Sound and Michael was grudging on the details of the players. 

Only had an idea of where the players were from based on their names (O'Mara.  Does he have a brother that plays with the U21s, Bouchier, Dillon.  Didn't their Dads play for Cavan?  McVitee.  Wasn't his father ace marksman for Crosserlough back in the day?).  Are there any more?

A day out in Clones and best of luck to them.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tierworker blue on July 04, 2011, 12:39:28 PM
Quote from: beer baron on July 04, 2011, 12:00:10 PM
Would i be right in saying our last minor victory in Ulster was in '74? Would be some achievement if the boys did it!

Yep...last time we made a minor final was '88 afaik, and '74 was the last time we won it.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on July 04, 2011, 01:19:29 PM
Great result last nite. Goals came at the right time. I honestly think Finnegan was about to be replaced before he got the first goal but we got the bit of luck and fair play from the referee and it got us over the line.
Our Full-Back line was getting skinned in the first half but fair play to the Management, they didnt panic and had faith in the players to do a man marking job instead of trying a sweeper and it paid off in the 2nd half.
Moving Argue to midfield also had a big bearing on the result as he really got to grips with Tyrones main man and we won far more breaks in the 2nd half.
We are in the All-Ireland series now for the first time so we have at least 2 bites of the cherry.
Armagh looked very strong but we have some excellent forwards who will trouble any team. If the management can sort out the defence we will give it a good rattle.
Title: Re: Ulster minor football championship final
Post by: boojangles on July 04, 2011, 01:26:20 PM
O Mara Bailieboro- Alans brother
Shankey- Shercock
Killian Clarke- Shercock
Moore- Ballyhaise
Gerard Smith-Lavey
Ciaran Brady- Arva
Andrew Dewart- Gowna
Liam Buchanan-Ballymachugh
Paul Graham- Cavan Gaels- Mickeys brother
Dara Mc Veety- Crosserlough- Johns son
Joe Dillon-Kingscourt- Joes son
Michael Argue- Bailieboro
Andy Graham- Cavan Gaels- Pauls brother
Kevin Bouchier-Arva- Mels son
Conor Finnegan-Lacken

Subs used
Conor Moynagh- Drumgoon
Nevin O Donnell- Shannon Gaels
Vinny Coyle- Cavan Gaels
Gary Tubman- Drumlane
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on July 04, 2011, 01:31:29 PM
Will be good craic looking for tickets now.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BigMac on July 04, 2011, 01:54:51 PM
Anyone know the team that started, and any subs used?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: PhilsJemmysField on July 04, 2011, 01:59:32 PM
Report of Cavan website

Cavan 2-13 Tyrone 2-10



Two second-half goals from Conor Finnegan booked Cavan's final spot although a goal with a minute to go by Tyrone full-back Sean Molloy made it a tense finish yesterday.

Tyrone were a point up at the break but it was Cavan who played the better football in the second half. Finnegan scored his first goal after a surging run saw him leave a trail of opponents in his wake. Tyrone did hit back but Finnegan's second was the difference at the end when he side-footed home.

Scorers -- Cavan: C Finnegan 2-0, D McVeety 0-3, F Moore, J Dillon 0-2 each, K Bouchier (1f), M Argue, N O'Donnell, P Graham, A Graham, V Coyle 0-1 each. Tyrone: D McCurry 0-6 (5f), D McNulty 1-1, S Molloy 1-0 ,M Cassidy, P Baker, R Mayse 0-1 each.

Cavan -- B O'Mara; B Sankey, K Clarke, F Moore; G Smith, C Brady, D McVeety; P Graham, L Buchanan; A Dewart, J Dillon, M Argue; A Graham, K Bouchier, C Finnegan. Subs: C Moynagh for Buchanan (h-t), V Coyle for Moore (49), N O'Donnell for McVeety (50), G Tubman for A Graham (58)

Tyrone -- M McReynolds; M McKeever, S Molloy, B Burns; M Heagney, C McAleer, T McCarron; P Barker, N Donaghy; M Cassidy, J Munroe, D McNulty; D McCurry, C McCullagh, S Hackett. Subs: R Brennan for McAleer (17), R Devlin for Munroe (38), R Mayse for Finnegan (49)

Ref -- B Rice (Down)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on July 04, 2011, 02:39:37 PM
Hats off to all concerned, I genuinely wasn't expecting this as years of disappointments at underage - particularly at the hands of Tyrone - have taught me to expect very little, but this is just what the doctor ordered after the shambles that was our senior campaign this year.

Armagh will be very strong but at last we're in a final and have two goes at it, if nothing else it'll bring the young fellas on a tonne to get out of the province by either front door or back. Absolutely delighted. ;D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on July 04, 2011, 03:11:47 PM
Not appearing in an Ulster Minor final for 23 years is crazy.. We've failed to win 2 (or 3 for the years we were in preliminary rounds) Minor Championship games back to back since '88..?!

It's great that even if they lose the Final they're still in the AIQF.. But they'll be hungry for silverware and with the Winners facing the Connacht runners up it's a much easier route to Croker.

Booj were you at the game? Was Cavan's defence as shaky as it sounded on the radio? It seemed that Tyrone were through on goal time after time especially in the first half..
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on July 04, 2011, 08:55:27 PM
Quote from: Westside on July 04, 2011, 03:11:47 PM
Not appearing in an Ulster Minor final for 23 years is crazy.. We've failed to win 2 (or 3 for the years we were in preliminary rounds) Minor Championship games back to back since '88..?!

It's great that even if they lose the Final they're still in the AIQF.. But they'll be hungry for silverware and with the Winners facing the Connacht runners up it's a much easier route to Croker.

Booj were you at the game? Was Cavan's defence as shaky as it sounded on the radio? It seemed that Tyrone were through on goal time after time especially in the first half..

Indeed I was. Yes the Full-Back line was fairly shaky in the first half. They chopped and changed it moving Dewart back and then bringing Shankey back in( his man was roaming) but in fairness Tyrone had 2 very classy inside forwards. No.13 in particular was very hard to handle.
Thank God in the second half Tyrone amazingly brought the Full forward out the field which definitely didn't work in their favour but credit to the lads they tightened up in the 2nd half after a bad start.

As mentioned already if somebody had offered me an U21 Ulster title and a Minor Final appearance at the start of the year Id' have bitten the hand of them. To beat Tyrone at both grades is massive but we really have to build on this.
Word on the street is Dermot Mc Cabe and Anthony Forde could be our next Senior management. I really hope both lads are given time in their own roles with the Minors and Under 21s before being thrown that poisoned chalice.
It's more important that we build a winning mentality at Underage in Cavan at the moment. We have a long way to go but progress is being made and I hope it continues.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on July 04, 2011, 09:26:54 PM
The Juniors are playing in the leinster final on wednesday.. They were unlucky last year so hopefully they will go one better on wednesday.. Think its in newbridge so it will be a hard task,. they have 1 or 2 quality players such as Mickey Conway who has been a regular with the seniors the last few years.. Niall Mckiernan will be a big loss as he is in america for the rest of the summer, they have a strong enough panel though with Enda King ,Keith Fannin, Barry Watters and the player manager jason..
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on July 04, 2011, 09:31:29 PM
Watching the TG4 GAA show for the Minor game and they showed the Munster Final and Leinster Semis but not the Ulster or Connacht?!

If these underage improvements aren't just an aberration and are indeed the fruits of good planning and effort then we should see sustained competitiveness over the next few years at Minor and U21.. McCabe and Forde would be a good partnership if they can continue and build on their current impact. Young and motivated and if they could bring the appropriate level of discipline they would suit perfectly... I would imagine they were given their positions as a grooming exercise with a long term view of letting them have the Seniors.
I'm starting to think Tom Reilly may be a fairly shrewd man.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: PhilsJemmysField on July 05, 2011, 02:41:31 PM
It may be that Phil Smith was a shrewd man and along with a few other people but together a very strong regime around development squads. There is a little bit of a vibe that there is attempts to dismantle that under the current regime. Tom may just be a lucky general
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Swadman on July 05, 2011, 03:09:49 PM
Quote from: Westside on July 04, 2011, 09:31:29 PMIf these underage improvements aren't just an aberration and are indeed the fruits of good planning and effort then we should see sustained competitiveness over the next few years at Minor and U21.. McCabe and Forde would be a good partnership if they can continue and build on their current impact. Young and motivated and if they could bring the appropriate level of discipline they would suit perfectly... I would imagine they were given their positions as a grooming exercise with a long term view of letting them have the Seniors.
I'm starting to think Tom Reilly may be a fairly shrewd man.

You can sing that one. I have been more impressed with him than the previous incumbents. He is a football man, not a politician

I am also of the vintage that was in Croke Park in '69. All I remember of it is getting drownded in the canal end and the dye running down my face from a cheap cap. I was 9 and it was my 1st time there. Cavan lost the replay and lost their way for a long time after.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on July 05, 2011, 03:23:27 PM
QuoteThere is a little bit of a vibe that there is attempts to dismantle that under the current regime.

Surely Not? 

One swallow doesn't make a summer I know but we have to wait for next year to see if the improvement continues.  Whan did the development squads start?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on July 05, 2011, 08:33:11 PM
Quote from: Denn Forever on July 05, 2011, 03:23:27 PM
QuoteThere is a little bit of a vibe that there is attempts to dismantle that under the current regime.

Surely Not? 

One swallow doesn't make a summer I know but we have to wait for next year to see if the improvement continues.  Whan did the development squads start?

Well as long as I can remember there has always been an U-16 team but I have a feeling that Ronan Flanagan, Cian Mackey and that age group may have been the first to benefit from the Development Squad, around 2002/2003. I think they introduced an U-15 first with these lads and then brought in an U-14 squad. I may be wrong but I'm nearly certain it was either that year or Ray Cullivans year they were introduced. Phil Smith would have been Minor Board Chairman at the time and George Cartwright the Chairman.
The Full-time coaches in the county at the moment are making great strides. Peter Donnelly in particular is one of the best and most sought after coaches in the country while Shaun Doherty and Andy Mc Govern are also making excellent progress within the schools. Andy Mc Govern was over the Dalton winning team last year and the Corn na Nog finalists this year.
For years St Pats was crying out for a set-up like is there now and the work being done is paying dividend.
In my time in St Pats which is only around 10 years ago, football was a joke in the school. JJ and Paddy Reilly and Ray Cullivan did their best but obviously needed more support if only the County Board had recognised it. St Pats regularly supplied at least half the players on the Cavan Minor panel. ONE set of jerseys did all teams. No equipment, no organisation and some players who went on to represent Cavan at Senior level would refuse to play for the school.
Hopefully we have turned the corner in that regard and we can continue making strides at underage.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on July 05, 2011, 09:39:08 PM
Yeah that was the first year of the development squads at flanagans age group, i was invlolved with them squads at u15 and u16.. the coaching was decent from what i remember but i heard its at a higher standard now and that all the players on the squads are given there own individual program on strength conditioning to work on. Andy Mcgovern and Finbar Reilly are doing good work with the schools and the underage squads..
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on July 05, 2011, 10:12:28 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on July 05, 2011, 09:39:08 PM
Yeah that was the first year of the development squads at flanagans age group, i was invlolved with them squads at u15 and u16.. the coaching was decent from what i remember but i heard its at a higher standard now and that all the players on the squads are given there own individual program on strength conditioning to work on. Andy Mcgovern and Finbar Reilly are doing good work with the schools and the underage squads..

Sorry I forgot about Finbar.

Best of luck to the Cavan Juniors tomorrow evening. Kildare won't be easily bet in Newbridge but as the last few years have shown Cavan have as good a footballers at this level as any other county and I hope they can go at least one better than last year.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BigMac on July 06, 2011, 12:06:17 PM
Yeah there definitely was an Under 15 development panel that year with Flannagan and Mackey. I was knocking around it under 15 and 16 aswell. Infact Boo it was your brother who was playing a part in running that set up. The county was divided into 3 sections, mid, west, east I think and they would meet up during the week for weights and circuits and then at weekends there would be a collective meeting for football and running etc. It was your brother who took the mid cavan group.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on July 06, 2011, 01:32:39 PM
I remember we played tyrone in a challenge game in our first game as a development squad at u15 and got hammered they had been together for a year from u14s and it showed big time.. Yeah it was more regional squads, east west and mid cavan.. then the whole squad would train maybe once a month in st pats, it was a good experience at the time.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on July 09, 2011, 03:13:36 PM
So it's being reported (Star Newspaper today) that Hyland has stepped Down as joint manager of the Senior side but will still Manage the U21s and continue on as a selector with the Senior side.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up-again on July 09, 2011, 03:36:31 PM
Quote from: Westside on July 09, 2011, 03:13:36 PM
So it's being reported (Star Newspaper today) that Hyland has stepped Down as joint manager of the Senior side but will still Manage the U21s and continue on as a selector with the Senior side.

Anyone hear anything about this locally?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on July 10, 2011, 06:05:04 PM
Quote from: put-it-up-again on July 09, 2011, 03:36:31 PM
Quote from: Westside on July 09, 2011, 03:13:36 PM
So it's being reported (Star Newspaper today) that Hyland has stepped Down as joint manager of the Senior side but will still Manage the U21s and continue on as a selector with the Senior side.

Anyone hear anything about this locally?

Any word about this? Haven't heard a word
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on July 10, 2011, 07:06:17 PM
Maybe its a load of made up rubbish. I think if anyone should be leaving its Andrews. Hyland has a decent record as a manager, especially compared to Andrews.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on July 10, 2011, 07:19:49 PM
This was said in half a very small article in the corner of a page of The Star lads so I wouldn't give it too much heed..
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on July 11, 2011, 01:45:37 PM
Andrews takes sole charge of Cavan
11 July 2011

Cavan boss Val AndrewsCavan have confirmed that Val Andrews will be their sole senior football manager for next season, with Terry Hyland occupying a selector role.

Andrews and Hyland were appointed as joint-managers of the Breffni County in September of last year and oversaw a disappointing campaign in 2011 in which they failed to challenge for promotion in Division Three of the NFL and suffered heavy home defeats to Donegal and Longford in the championship.

Hyland was in charge of the county's Under 21 footballers which captured an Ulster title back in March, and also reached the All-Ireland final against Galway at Croke Park, but has decided to hand the senior reins over to his Ballymun counterpart.

This Sunday will see Cavan bid for another provincial crown when they take on Armagh in the ESB Ulster Minor Football Championship final at St Tiernach's Park, Clones (throw-in 2.00pm).
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up-again on July 11, 2011, 02:50:54 PM
Quote from: Lawrence of Knockbride on July 11, 2011, 01:45:37 PM
Andrews takes sole charge of Cavan
11 July 2011

Cavan boss Val AndrewsCavan have confirmed that Val Andrews will be their sole senior football manager for next season, with Terry Hyland occupying a selector role.

Andrews and Hyland were appointed as joint-managers of the Breffni County in September of last year and oversaw a disappointing campaign in 2011 in which they failed to challenge for promotion in Division Three of the NFL and suffered heavy home defeats to Donegal and Longford in the championship.

Hyland was in charge of the county's Under 21 footballers which captured an Ulster title back in March, and also reached the All-Ireland final against Galway at Croke Park, but has decided to hand the senior reins over to his Ballymun counterpart.

This Sunday will see Cavan bid for another provincial crown when they take on Armagh in the ESB Ulster Minor Football Championship final at St Tiernach's Park, Clones (throw-in 2.00pm).

Anyone know the logic behind the decision?

Why not just say nothing and let them at it. Why the need to tell the press about the change? Doesn't make sense to me
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on July 11, 2011, 03:08:18 PM
I would imagine this will make very little difference.. I think they are right to tell the media, better to clarify things now than the word coming from the camp that Val is in sole charge and then have supporters questioning why we weren't told, wondering if there was a row etc..

The squad named at the end of the Club Championship will tell a tale I think.. If we go through the same thing as previous years with players not committing (eg James Reilly in Carr's 2nd year in charge) then we have a big problem. It's time to drive on and improve and not moan about the man in charge.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on July 11, 2011, 10:28:23 PM
James Reilly didn't commit as he was building his own house at the time not because he didn't want to commit.. If a player cant commit because of work or college there is nothing wrong with that. Playing for cavan wont pay the bills
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on July 11, 2011, 10:53:17 PM
Fair enough I was only using that as an example I thought he didn't commit because of Carr but you get my point. If the players don't have confidence in Val we're going nowhere.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on July 11, 2011, 11:06:39 PM
Well i heard 1 or 2 of this years panel wont be playing under val next year so i don't know if it was a great thing to make him manager, a new selector maybe would have been good.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on July 12, 2011, 08:26:07 AM
Quote from: rodney trotter on July 11, 2011, 11:06:39 PM
Well i heard 1 or 2 of this years panel wont be playing under val next year so i don't know if it was a great thing to make him manager, a new selector maybe would have been good.

I would be afraid that next year could be another poor year. 

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: PhilsJemmysField on July 12, 2011, 03:47:23 PM
Latest email sent out by secretary this morning:

Bit harsh on clubs without minors but if you did have a good minor or two. You could see why a club would want it.

As you are aware the county minors are NOT allowed to play club championship football on the weekend 22nd - 24th July 2011.
 
The fixtures will go ahead as fixed but if clubs do not want to play without their county minors they can have their game postponed until Thursday 11th August 2011.  Your club should send an email to me by Friday evening next by 5pm and then I will send out a revised fixture list on Friday for the Championship.  Also at the CCC meeting next Monday night the league fixtures that is fixed for the 13th August will be reviewed.
 
ONLY CLUBS WITH COUNTY MINORS HAVE THE OPTION OF POSTPONING THE FIXTURES'
 
The fixtures for bank holiday weekend will also be reviewed when the fixture for the All Ireland Quarter Final which will include Cavan Minors is made.
 

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Ollie on July 14, 2011, 01:56:56 AM
Good discussion between Tommy Carr, Val Andrews and Malachy Clerkin. They don't directly talk about Cavan but I was encouraged what Val had to say throughout the conversation. It shows he's a realist and not someone clutching on to hopes and dreams. http://www.newstalk.ie/2011/sport/the-panel-on-newstalk-sport-saturday-9th-july/ 
Title: Re: Ulster minor football championship final
Post by: footy15 on July 14, 2011, 11:41:26 PM
Good luck on Sunday, Bring home the cup!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Division 3 league 2011
Post by: footy15 on July 14, 2011, 11:42:25 PM
Going to be an exciting end to the league , with Mountnugent holding onto top  spot
Title: Re: Ulster minor football championship final
Post by: Denn Forever on July 15, 2011, 01:46:49 PM
Go for it.  Will it be on NS?
Title: Re: Ulster minor football championship final
Post by: Westside on July 15, 2011, 02:53:35 PM
Whispers coming from the camp that Bouchier is injured and won't be fit to play Sunday.. That's a blow..
Title: Re: Ulster minor football championship final
Post by: mylestheslasher on July 15, 2011, 06:56:31 PM
Good luck to the the minors, I am sure they will do themselves and the county proud and i intend to be there to cheer them on.
Title: Re: Ulster minor football championship final
Post by: full moon on July 16, 2011, 02:03:53 PM
Anyone know of any buses going to Clones from Town?
Title: Re: Ulster minor football championship final
Post by: tierworker blue on July 16, 2011, 04:21:21 PM
Best of luck to the lads...see ye all in Clones!
Title: Re: Ulster minor football championship final
Post by: anglocelt39 on July 17, 2011, 03:16:49 PM
Marvellous and congratulations to all invovled
Title: Re: Ulster minor football championship final
Post by: Denn Forever on July 17, 2011, 03:19:36 PM
Have you got an uncontrollable grin?
Title: Re: Ulster minor football championship final
Post by: CC1 on July 17, 2011, 03:24:38 PM
Bloody delighted!
Title: Re: Ulster minor football championship final
Post by: Denn Forever on July 17, 2011, 03:29:05 PM
Quote from: Denn Forever on July 17, 2011, 03:21:36 PM
Quote from: Dougal on July 17, 2011, 03:15:28 PM
all over,cavan win by 3,congrats to all involved.2 provincial underage titles this year,were on the up.  ;D

cavan v galway
armagh v roscommon

Where will those quarter finals be?  Double header in Pearse park?
Title: Re: Ulster minor football championship final
Post by: tommysmith on July 17, 2011, 03:36:56 PM
Quote from: Denn Forever on July 17, 2011, 03:29:05 PM
Quote from: Denn Forever on July 17, 2011, 03:21:36 PM
Quote from: Dougal on July 17, 2011, 03:15:28 PM
all over,cavan win by 3,congrats to all involved.2 provincial underage titles this year,were on the up.  ;D

cavan v galway
armagh v roscommon

Where will those quarter finals be?  Double header in Pearse park?

Are you going to go to it?
Title: Re: Ulster minor football championship final
Post by: cavanmaniac on July 17, 2011, 04:59:06 PM
Savage stuff! I could only watch it on Northern Sound so my knowledge of what may have happened in the actual game is limited but it sounds like we started like a train, ran out of ideas a bit but rallied well at half time and eventually made our supremacy count on the scoreboard. Reigning Ulster minor and U21 champions puts a very positive shine on what has at times been a very bleak year.

Massive congratultions to all involved and well done, I'm like a pig in shit right now.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on July 17, 2011, 08:20:37 PM
Well done to the Minors, brillant win today in Clones.. They started off very well with 5 points on board  and then armagh took over and scored 1-6 without reply to go 4 ahead at half time.. In the second half it was all Cavan the defence was rock solid.. Conor Smith was very good along with Killian Clark, Ciaran Brady has a brillant game at wing back, the two Grahams were outstanding, andrew graham kicked 4 or 5 from play.. Conor Finnegan was also a handful and kicked 2 points and unlucky not to have at least one goal the subs were very good when they came on especially Nevan o donnell he is a class act, he will be starting the next day i think.. Great all round team performance, they didn't give Armagh a sniff in the second half, the defence kept there cool and made very few mistakes.. 2 underage ulsters in the one year is fantastic..Playing Galway now in the 1/4finals,.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up-again on July 17, 2011, 09:56:40 PM
Hats off to everyone involved. I don't think anyone expected them to get to a final, never mind win it. Remarkable after so many years of no success we win two underage titles in one year. A Cavan double in Minor and u21. How many people would have laughed if you were told that would happen in January?

You would hope these two teams have given confidence to all the youth coming through in the county and hopefullly we can be competitive from now on. We sure as well ain't going to win doubles every year but be great to know we are always in with a shout instead of some of the shite that has gone on over the years.

The backs for Cavan today were absolutely outstanding. Clarke and Sankey were brilliant and Gerard Smith and Ciaran Brady were a credit. Both the latter two are underage again next year. At least from the 21's and minors we can see we have real defenders coming through, who enjoy defending and are happy to be there and be a nuisance. Work-rate all over the field today was excellent. No matter what the result is, once you see 15 lads busting a gut for one another in the blue jersey you cannot complain. The honest they showed today was fantastic to watch though I did expect more from Armagh.

The problem now is how do we translate these two massive underage successes to the Senior team...Talk about the million dollar question.  ::)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Babe Ruth 47 on July 17, 2011, 10:34:34 PM
Revenge for the U21 final would be particularly sweet.
Title: Re: Ulster minor football championship final
Post by: boojangles on July 18, 2011, 01:43:10 PM
Absolutely delighted. Congrats and Well Done to all involved. Brilliant team display built on superb defensive performances from Clarke, Sankey,Brady and Conor and Gerard Smith. If these lads had folded after half time it was game over but they battled for everything and eventually we turned the screw.
Changes made worked very well and O Donnell in particular is some impact sub to be able to bring on.
Galway up next and no reason why this team should fear anybody.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on July 18, 2011, 01:44:07 PM
Absolutely delighted. Congrats and Well Done to all involved. Brilliant team display built on superb defensive performances from Clarke, Sankey,Brady and Conor and Gerard Smith. If these lads had folded after half time it was game over but they battled for everything and eventually we turned the screw.
Changes made worked very well and O Donnell in particular is some impact sub to be able to bring on.
Galway up next and no reason why this team should fear anybody.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on July 18, 2011, 02:34:45 PM
Some video and interviews here:
http://www.jeromequinnmedia.com/watch/Cavan-Minors-Interviews-579 (http://www.jeromequinnmedia.com/watch/Cavan-Minors-Interviews-579)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on July 18, 2011, 06:43:41 PM
Just like to repeat what everyone else has already said and congratulate the minors on a super win. We made a great start but once Armagh came back into it it was always going to be tight. The 2nd half was a superb performance only let down by some poor decision making but I suppose it was the first time for these guys on the big stage and the nerves were surely at them. The 2nd half performance was built on lording midfield where we must have picked up 80% possession, a huge work ethic starting at ff line and especially an outstanding performance by our fb line. Clarke from Shercock was immense as were conor smith (not bad for a lad only on the panel a couple of weeks and a hot tip from the boys in the know ;)) and shankey. Its great to see Cavan teams going out and sweating blood for the cause, up until this year I was beginning to wonder was all lost. If only the senior team could be got to do the same. No reason these lads can't get there feet on the ground and go even further.
Title: Re: Ulster minor football championship final
Post by: footy15 on July 18, 2011, 08:10:30 PM
We dont want to blow this team up, keep them down to earth and keep the pressure off them, and they will beat Galway
Title: Re: Ulster minor football championship final
Post by: Denn Forever on July 18, 2011, 09:31:16 PM
From another thread.#

Quarter finals

Saturday July 30th
Roscommon v Armagh* Pearse park Longford TBC
Cavan v Galway Pearse park Longford 3pm

Monday August 1st
Tipperary v Meath Portlaoise 2pm
Dublin v Cork Portlaoise 4pm

Semi finals

Sunday August 21st
Roscommon or Armagh v Tipperary or Meath, Croke Park, 1.30pm

Sunday 28 August
Dublin or Cork v Cavan or Galway, Croke Park, 1.30pm


* Venue will be changed if Roscommon meet Armagh in round 4 senior championship





Title: Re: Ulster minor football championship final
Post by: anglocelt39 on July 18, 2011, 10:05:16 PM
too much trouble pasting in the link but good highlights on TG4 player section
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Babe Ruth 47 on July 18, 2011, 10:59:29 PM
Very comprehensive highlights here, very first game shown.

http://beo.tg4.ie/main.aspx?content=626410494977
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: PhilsJemmysField on July 19, 2011, 12:28:46 PM
Where s Conor Smith from, Is he the Killeshandra lad on the panel / team
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BigMac on July 19, 2011, 01:42:14 PM
Obviously I am delighted with another provincial title at under age level and it would give hope for the future of football in the county, but with regards the race to a minor All Ireland, there is actually no benefit to winning a provincial title. Both the provincial winners and losers are drawn in the quarter finals, so really were not further on except we're playing a losing provincial finalist.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on July 19, 2011, 01:58:14 PM
Armagh are still second favorites for the All Ireland, presumably because they are on the opposite side of the Draw to Dublin and are therefore more likely to get to the Final.. I think Cavan can get past Galway provided they can keep their feet on the ground, improve the decision making in attack and most importantly; not take them for granted.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on July 19, 2011, 05:01:07 PM
My glass is half full but I'll take another if you're offering.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on July 19, 2011, 06:08:35 PM
Quote from: BigMac on July 19, 2011, 01:42:14 PM
Obviously I am delighted with another provincial title at under age level and it would give hope for the future of football in the county, but with regards the race to a minor All Ireland, there is actually no benefit to winning a provincial title. Both the provincial winners and losers are drawn in the quarter finals, so really were not further on except we're playing a losing provincial finalist.


Very good point and all the more so given how unpredictable this code is, not too many years ago that none of the Provincial champions made the AISF at minor level so we will have a few surprises before all this plays out. Where beating Armagh was important and it's only my opinion, is that we are starting to see a few footballers that are getting used to the idea of beating Armagh, Tyrone etc. You'd like to think this might pay off at senior level sometime soon. Anyway great year so far hope it continues a bit longer.

it even looks like we have a bit of management talent inside the county as well.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Swadman on July 19, 2011, 07:46:00 PM
Quote...starting to see a few footballers that are getting used to the idea of beating Armagh, Tyrone etc. You'd like to think this might pay off at senior level sometime soon. Anyway great year so far hope it continues a bit longer.

Whats the odds on a third Cavan team playing in an All Ireland final in Croke Park in the one year????? (I had to get that in)

I wasn't at the Denn v Swad game but I heard Martin Sludden was the referee (What did you see Denn Forever?)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on July 20, 2011, 10:31:22 AM
Like Arsene, I didn't see it but I have a good reason in that I wasn't there.
Title: Re: Ulster minor football championship final
Post by: Stevie g 8 on July 22, 2011, 12:18:25 PM
i was at the ulster final last sunday and was very impressed with the cavan minor team.there seems to be a strong underage structure with the u 21s also winning ulster.why are the senior team so poor
Title: Re: Ulster minor football championship final
Post by: tommysmith on July 22, 2011, 12:44:18 PM
I think that alot of it is down to the managers that the county board have appointed.  Things have gone down hill since Eamon Coleman was in charge.  Player attitude is a big problem also with lads drinking and acting the clown.

McElkennon was appointed as manger where he should have been training the team and cassidy manager.

Keoghan came then and had no experience at this level and apparently some players would not play for him (Cavan Gaels but not many have bothered since anyway)  and some off his antics would not have shown disipline to the players who were there.

Tom Carr arrived then via a recruitment agency and nothing improved.

Current management wont improve things either and i hope that Hyland wont get the job on his own after Andrews goes.
Title: Re: Ulster minor football championship final
Post by: tommysmith on July 22, 2011, 01:03:57 PM
Quote from: Thastheball on July 22, 2011, 12:48:35 PM
Tommy our players over the past 6 years have been rubbish, and mostly too small. \thats our lot. Things are going to change in the next few years

Yeah i agree 100% with that but i also think that wrong people have been in charge but in saying that not many would have wanted to take them over either.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on July 23, 2011, 10:11:06 PM
Tipping bit of a game in Crosskeys between Ballinagh and Ramor. Draw.
Ballyhaise put down a marker easily disposing of a very disappointing but depleted Drumlane in Breifni earlier.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up-again on August 01, 2011, 04:15:58 PM
No posts for over a week. Has nobody anything to moan about  ;D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on August 01, 2011, 07:36:53 PM
Some shock Gaels beating Ballyhaise 2-9 to 0-9 throws that whole group open - could be a 3 way tie for the 2 top spots or 3 way tie for second place.

Crosserlough really struggled against Kill this evenign in Stadone.  Got a goal in the last 2 minutes to win by two points
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: club_man on August 01, 2011, 08:33:52 PM
Big win for Ballinagh against the Gaels, leaves a very interesting final game between Ramor and Gaels, I think Ramor could get a draw/win against them. Very poor game with Ramor and Lacken. Lacken were extremely disappointing with Ramor looking to be flying.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on August 01, 2011, 09:33:25 PM
I think Ramor are more than capable of beating Cavan Gaels next week which would more than likely knock the gaels out..  :oThey were very good today against lacken, although lacken didn't play at all, suspensions injuries and players abroad have not helped lackens cause. Anton Reilly was very good again today, himself and James McEnroe are a stong combination in the middle of the park. Ado Cole was very lively but a bit wasteful at times, Ronan Fitzimons is a good player at centre forward with great pace and can score. Ballinagh looked very fired up yesterday against the gaels.. Carrol was very good at full back, david finnegan gave eammon reilly a hard time and kicked 2 or 3 good pts.. Gaynor was his usual self, involved in numerous off the ball stuff, could have been put off, kicked a brillant point in the first half and done a good job on niall murray before switching to Lyng. Colin Gumley and Niall Mcdermott were very good in the ff line..
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Ollie on August 02, 2011, 12:58:21 AM
The Gaels have it all to do. They were awful against ballinagh. They were second to every ball and didnt play to there strengths. Strange why Jelly and lyng didnt start the game. They be the  first names I would have on the team-sheet. There capable of beating Ramor but will have to up there performance big time. A week my not be enough time to change things round.. I wouldnt go backing ballinagh for the championship after that performance either. McDermott is there only threat in the full forward line and there defence is vulnerable aswell. Gaynors footballing ability has diminished in my opinion. He's too occupied with off the ball incidents. I think a strong performance from the likes of Mullahoran or Kingscourt would beat either the Gaels or Ballinagh.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on August 02, 2011, 10:16:45 PM
Gumley kicked 1-4 i think it was a- few frees.. it wasn't just mcdermott who done the damage.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on August 02, 2011, 10:27:24 PM
Cavan Gaels looked a lot more shaky than the ballinagh defence, duffy is not a corner back, he got frustrated at the end at stupidly hit mcdermott right in front of the ref.. Eammon Reilly doesn't look as good when he has to mark somebody rather than looking good doing a few runs up the field and getting the odd pint..
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Swadman on August 03, 2011, 02:25:48 PM
Quote from: Ollie on August 02, 2011, 12:58:21 AM
The Gaels have it all to do. They were awful against ballinagh. .. Strange why Jelly and lyng didnt start the game. They be the  first names I would have on the team-sheet.

They must be saving them for the Intermediate Championship !!! ;D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Ollie on August 03, 2011, 07:56:08 PM
Quote from: Swadman on August 03, 2011, 02:25:48 PM
Quote from: Ollie on August 02, 2011, 12:58:21 AM
The Gaels have it all to do. They were awful against ballinagh. .. Strange why Jelly and lyng didnt start the game. They be the  first names I would have on the team-sheet.

They must be saving them for the Intermediate Championship !!! ;D

Well in fairness Lyng was out injured up until last week and had very little training done of late. I suppose that showed against Ballinagh. Can't understand why jelly didnt start. I doubt it was for that reason. Intermediate team played well against Ballyhaise. Impressive displays from Paul Graham and Daragh Sexton. Wouldn't be surprised if Sexton starts against Ramor at the weekend in place of Duffy.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on August 03, 2011, 11:32:34 PM
Quote from: Ollie on August 03, 2011, 07:56:08 PM
Quote from: Swadman on August 03, 2011, 02:25:48 PM
Quote from: Ollie on August 02, 2011, 12:58:21 AM
The Gaels have it all to do. They were awful against ballinagh. .. Strange why Jelly and lyng didnt start the game. They be the  first names I would have on the team-sheet.

They must be saving them for the Intermediate Championship !!! ;D

Well in fairness Lyng was out injured up until last week and had very little training done of late. I suppose that showed against Ballinagh. Can't understand why jelly didnt start. I doubt it was for that reason. Intermediate team played well against Ballyhaise. Impressive displays from Paul Graham and Daragh Sexton. Wouldn't be surprised if Sexton starts against Ramor at the weekend in place of Duffy.

Maybe he doesn't want to play? He was a sub in a league game a few weeks ago against killeshandra and his body language on the pitch when he came on said he didn't want to be there. Saying that he scored 2 goals but there is something up there imo.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on August 04, 2011, 11:22:17 AM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on August 03, 2011, 11:32:34 PM
Quote from: Ollie on August 03, 2011, 07:56:08 PM
Quote from: Swadman on August 03, 2011, 02:25:48 PM
Quote from: Ollie on August 02, 2011, 12:58:21 AM
The Gaels have it all to do. They were awful against ballinagh. .. Strange why Jelly and lyng didnt start the game. They be the  first names I would have on the team-sheet.

They must be saving them for the Intermediate Championship !!! ;D

Well in fairness Lyng was out injured up until last week and had very little training done of late. I suppose that showed against Ballinagh. Can't understand why jelly didnt start. I doubt it was for that reason. Intermediate team played well against Ballyhaise. Impressive displays from Paul Graham and Daragh Sexton. Wouldn't be surprised if Sexton starts against Ramor at the weekend in place of Duffy.

Maybe he doesn't want to play? He was a sub in a league game a few weeks ago against killeshandra and his body language on the pitch when he came on said he didn't want to be there. Saying that he scored 2 goals but there is something up there imo.

I hear he prefers to play golf now and isnt training, sounds like the lad needs a break from football.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on August 04, 2011, 01:14:26 PM
Quote from: tommysmith on August 04, 2011, 11:22:17 AM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on August 03, 2011, 11:32:34 PM
Quote from: Ollie on August 03, 2011, 07:56:08 PM
Quote from: Swadman on August 03, 2011, 02:25:48 PM
Quote from: Ollie on August 02, 2011, 12:58:21 AM
The Gaels have it all to do. They were awful against ballinagh. .. Strange why Jelly and lyng didnt start the game. They be the  first names I would have on the team-sheet.

They must be saving them for the Intermediate Championship !!! ;D

Well in fairness Lyng was out injured up until last week and had very little training done of late. I suppose that showed against Ballinagh. Can't understand why jelly didnt start. I doubt it was for that reason. Intermediate team played well against Ballyhaise. Impressive displays from Paul Graham and Daragh Sexton. Wouldn't be surprised if Sexton starts against Ramor at the weekend in place of Duffy.

Maybe he doesn't want to play? He was a sub in a league game a few weeks ago against killeshandra and his body language on the pitch when he came on said he didn't want to be there. Saying that he scored 2 goals but there is something up there imo.

I hear he prefers to play golf now and isnt training, sounds like the lad needs a break from football.

Its not what people will want to hear but I think you are right, maybe he should head off now to the US or Australia for 12 months and get his mojo back because he doesn't look like a happy man on the football field.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: sams the aim on August 04, 2011, 08:45:42 PM
would love to see what  a happy footballer can do, ;D has he not got sumit like 4-3 in less than an hrs play, happy enough id say.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Ollie on August 08, 2011, 09:40:49 PM
Was surprised at the hammering Castlerahen dished out to Gowna last night.. surely Gowna aren't that bad?? Ramor never really threatened the Gaels last night. It wasn't a great performance from the Gaels but it was an improvement from the ballinagh match. Still think they'll struggle to make it to the county final. Drumalee and Denn match was brutal. Can't get over how poor Drumalee were. They will probably find themselves back in the intermediate by the end of the year.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on August 09, 2011, 11:26:52 AM
I think drumalee will find it hard to stay up now, Lavey Gowna and Lacken are the other teams in the relagation play offs. I couldn't see drumalee beating any of those teams.. Lacken have trevor crowe back and Niall Mckiernan will be back soon, Gowna wont be as bad again they were last sunday. Lavey should have beaten kingscort and went out on score difference
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on August 09, 2011, 05:06:14 PM
Just looking at the fixtures in the Minor championship and how can there be a Kilinkere/Ramor A and B team?  Is it an amalgamation? 

Div 1
Killinkere /Ramor Eire Og Celtics  Ramor United 15/08/2011 19:30 Jimmy Galligan-Lacken 1st Round

Div 3
Kildallan  Killinkere /Ramor B Kildallen 16/08/2011 19:30 Harry Conaty 2nd Round
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on August 09, 2011, 06:45:39 PM
Quote from: Denn Forever on August 09, 2011, 05:06:14 PM
Just looking at the fixtures in the Minor championship and how can there be a Kilinkere/Ramor A and B team? Is it an amalgamation?  Div 1
Killinkere /Ramor Eire Og Celtics  Ramor United 15/08/2011 19:30 Jimmy Galligan-Lacken 1st Round

Div 3
Kildallan  Killinkere /Ramor B Kildallen 16/08/2011 19:30 Harry Conaty 2nd Round

What do you think?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on August 09, 2011, 11:50:47 PM
Quote from: tommysmith on August 09, 2011, 06:45:39 PM
Quote from: Denn Forever on August 09, 2011, 05:06:14 PM
Just looking at the fixtures in the Minor championship and how can there be a Kilinkere/Ramor A and B team? Is it an amalgamation?  Div 1
Killinkere /Ramor Eire Og Celtics  Ramor United 15/08/2011 19:30 Jimmy Galligan-Lacken 1st Round

Div 3
Kildallan  Killinkere /Ramor B Kildallen 16/08/2011 19:30 Harry Conaty 2nd Round

What do you think?

Yep welcome to the future of Cavan Underage Football
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4sam on August 15, 2011, 09:25:55 AM
Senior Championship Quarter Final draw:
Kingscourt V Cavan Gaels
Mullahoran V Ballinagh
Castlerahan V Killygarry
Belturbet V Denn
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on August 15, 2011, 12:06:11 PM
If they have any sense it will be a double header of Kingscourt/Cavan Gaels and Mullahoran/Ballinagh. 

Hopefully not on the same day as our QF.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on August 15, 2011, 04:20:58 PM
Quote from: cavan4sam on August 15, 2011, 09:25:55 AM
Senior Championship Quarter Final draw:
Kingscourt V Cavan Gaels
Mullahoran V Ballinagh
Castlerahan V Killygarry
Belturbet V Denn

Yas could be dark horses C4Sam. Good win yesterday. Very impressed with Mackey and Sean Brady. Brian Colemans goal was pure class and Seans wasnt half bad either.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: PhilsJemmysField on August 15, 2011, 05:00:39 PM

All of the other championship fixtures for Senior / Intermediate

Ballyhaise Swad has the making of a good game in the Intermediate, The less said about the relegation stuff the better


Hotel Kilmore Senior Relegation Play Off Draw:
Lavey v Lacken
Drumalee v Gowna

Hotel Kilmore Intermediate Q/F Championship Draw:
¬¬Drumgoon v Kill
Drung v Crosserlough
Knockbride v Killeshandra
Swanlinbar v Ballyhaise

Hotel Kilmore Intermediate Relegation Play Off Draw:
Bailieboro v Laragh Utd
Drumlane v Killinkere

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BigMac on August 16, 2011, 10:14:39 AM
Any dates for those games Phil? Or do you know where I could get them?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: RacingPost09 on August 16, 2011, 12:51:01 PM
Friday, 26th August 2011 @ 8pm
Hotel Kilmore Senior Championship Q/F
Castlerahan v Killygarry
Venue: Kingspan Breffni Park
Referee: Jimmy Galligan - Lacken
Linesmen: Raymond Kelly & Padraig Kelleher


Friday, 26th August 2011 @ 8pm
Hotel Kilmore Inter Championship Q/F
Swanlinbar v Ballyhaise
Venue: St Aidan's Park, Bawnboy
Referee: Oliver O'Reilly
Linesmen: Thomas Doonan & Chris McCaffrey

Saturday, 27th August 2011
Hotel Kilmore Senior Championship Q/F
Belturbet v Denn (Game at 6pm)
Venue: Kingspan Breffni Park
Referee: Michael Lee
Linesmen: Raymond Tynan & Donal Reilly
Mullahoran v Ballinagh (Game at 7.30pm)
Venue: Kingspan Breffni Park
Referee: Jimmy Galligan - Killygarry
Linesmen: Raymond Tynan & Donal Reilly

Saturday, 27th August 2011
Hotel Kilmore Junior Championship Q/F Play Off's
Ballyconnell First Ulsters v Maghera (Game at 3pm)
Venue: PJ Duke Park, Stradone
Referee: Gerry Sheridan
Linesmen: Margaret Farrelly & Brian Carolan
Mountnugent v Templeport (Game at 4.30pm)
Venue: PJ Duke Park, Stradone
Referee: Ciaran McCarville
Linesmen: Margaret Farrelly & Brian Carolan
*Extra Time if necessary in Junior Championship Q/F Play Off's

Sunday, 28th August 2011 @ 1pm
Hotel Kilmore Senior Championship Relegation Play Off's
Lavey v Lacken
Venue: St Matthew's Park, Crosskeys
Referee: Ollie Donohoe
Linesmen: Jim Hyland & Jim Giblin
Drumalee v Gowna
Venue: Ballinagh GAA Grounds, Ballinagh
Referee: Raymond Tynan
Linesmen: Martin Brady - Ballinagh & Robbie McDermott

Sunday, 28th August 2011 @ 1pm
Hotel Kilmore Intermediate Championship Relegation Play Off's
Bailieboro v Laragh Utd
Venue: Ramor GAA Grounds, Virginia
Referee: Padraig Kelleher
Linesmen: Ciaran McCarville & Michael McCann
Drumlane v Killinkere
Venue: Killygarry GAA Grounds, Crubany
Referee: Martin Brady - Lacken
Linesmen: Packie Smith & Jimmy Galligan - Killygarry
Sunday, 28th August 2011 @ 6.30pm
Hotel Kilmore Inter Championship Q/F
Knockbride v Killeshandra
Venue: Kingspan Breffni Park
Referee: MG Brady
Linesmen: Joe McQuillan & Packie Smith

Sunday, 28th August 2011 @ 8pm
Hotel Kilmore Senior Championship Q/F
Cavan Gaels v Kingsourt
Venue: Kingspan Breffni Park
Referee: Brendan Sweeney
Linesmen: Joe McQuillan & Ollie Donohoe

Friday, 02nd September 2011 @ 8pm
Hotel Kilmore Inter Championship Q/F
Drung v Crosserlough
Venue: Kingspan Breffni Park
Referee: Noel Mooney
Linesmen: Martin Sexton & Seamus O'Connor

Saturday, 03rd September 2011 @ 6pm
Hotel Kilmore Inter Championship Q/F
Drumgoon v Kill
Venue: Hugh O'Reilly Memorial Park, Cootehill
Referee: James Clarke
Linesmen: John Emmo & Margaret Farrelly
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up-again on August 16, 2011, 02:47:25 PM
Anybody know who Eire Og is in the Minor Championship?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on August 16, 2011, 02:51:00 PM
Quote from: put-it-up-again on August 16, 2011, 02:47:25 PM
Anybody know who Eire Og is in the Minor Championship?

Ourselves and Drumgoon - and it's Eire Og Celtic too!!  That last bit is very important
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on August 17, 2011, 02:35:24 PM
Holy bejaysus this place is gone to the dogs... Fierce quiet.

What do you think of the quarter final draws - few tasting encounters on the cards...

Castlerahan v Killygarry is the only game I would hazard a guess on - be leaning towards Castlerahan on that one.  All the rest should be tight affairs

The same goes in the Intermediate with Crosserlough perhaps having an edge on Drung if Drung have the injuries I have heard about.

Any thoughts on the Minor Championship - Semi-finals next week; Eire Og Celtic v O'Raghallaigh Gaels and Ballyhaise v Cavan Gaels
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: PhilsJemmysField on August 18, 2011, 10:56:14 AM
Sorry Celt Man, would say the Minor Championship is O'Raghallaigh Gaels to loose. Even though ye Celts have a lethal full forward line. They have a wee bit more strength in the Midfield diamond. Would hope t  get into the park on Sunday evening to that double header should be worth seeing
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dougal on August 24, 2011, 01:51:21 PM
Quote from: Celt_Man on August 17, 2011, 02:35:24 PM
Holy bejaysus this place is gone to the dogs... Fierce quiet.

What do you think of the quarter final draws - few tasting encounters on the cards...

Castlerahan v Killygarry is the only game I would hazard a guess on - be leaning towards Castlerahan on that one.  All the rest should be tight affairs

The same goes in the Intermediate with Crosserlough perhaps having an edge on Drung if Drung have the injuries I have heard about.

Any thoughts on the Minor Championship - Semi-finals next week; Eire Og Celtic v O'Raghallaigh Gaels and Ballyhaise v Cavan Gaels

i reckon the seniors fairly straight forward.Gaels by 3,castlerahan by 5,belturbet by 4,mullahoran by 1.
anyone know of any players that wont be playing this week due to injury?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on August 24, 2011, 06:13:30 PM
Quote from: Dougal on August 24, 2011, 01:51:21 PM
Quote from: Celt_Man on August 17, 2011, 02:35:24 PM
Holy bejaysus this place is gone to the dogs... Fierce quiet.

What do you think of the quarter final draws - few tasting encounters on the cards...

Castlerahan v Killygarry is the only game I would hazard a guess on - be leaning towards Castlerahan on that one.  All the rest should be tight affairs

The same goes in the Intermediate with Crosserlough perhaps having an edge on Drung if Drung have the injuries I have heard about.

Any thoughts on the Minor Championship - Semi-finals next week; Eire Og Celtic v O'Raghallaigh Gaels and Ballyhaise v Cavan Gaels

i reckon the seniors fairly straight forward.Gaels by 3,castlerahan by 5,belturbet by 4,mullahoran by 1.
anyone know of any players that wont be playing this week due to injury?

Don't rule Denn out. Belturbet should win it but if its tight Denn could scrape it. Martin Cahill is in great form and could be the difference between the 2 teams, like he was against Cuchulainns and Drumalee .
Jelly is out.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on August 25, 2011, 01:51:56 PM
I wouldn't write off Denn at all.. Belturbet will probaly be missing Kevin McConnell or Chops as he is known. He was playing very well at centre back so he would be a big blow if he is out. Denn as they have proven by getting to two county finals are a championship team but i think belturbet will shade it. Bud fizt has been different class in the last few games, he scored a couple of outstanding points last week against lacken. If johnston is out then the gales will struggle, be great if he is as i would like to see kingscourt make another final. Ballinagh-mullahoran is hard one to predict, both even money with the bookies, finnegan missing is a blow for ballinagh another player who was playing well. Think ballinagh by 2 pts if they win enough around the middle. Castlerahan should beat killygarry by 5 or 6.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: drici on August 26, 2011, 09:44:40 PM
Quote from: Dougal on August 24, 2011, 01:51:21 PM

castlerahan by 5


Owe you a few pints for that one.

Castlerahan 2-11  Killygarry 1-08

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on August 26, 2011, 09:50:59 PM
Ballyhaise by a point - 13 to Swad's 12
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up-again on August 27, 2011, 11:45:32 AM
Very quiet here these days lads.

Anyone unearthed any new talent?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on August 27, 2011, 02:56:51 PM
I was at the Swad Ballyhaise game lastnight. Ballyhaise sneaked it despite Swad having most of the play, Mark Cunningham was a real loss to them. Cullivan and Gearoid had a great tussle in the middle and it got fairly heated. Gearoid came into it well especially in the 2nd half and scored 2 fantastic points in. Cullivan got one monster of a point too when the game was in the melting pot. Swad panicked a little bit too soon and were trying for goals when they could have tried for points to draw level. Ballyhaise just looked to have that little bit more know how and composure but Swad will feel they left the game behind them.

3 red cards, a lot of pulling and dragging and frees.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on August 27, 2011, 04:59:38 PM
Quote from: Westside on August 27, 2011, 02:56:51 PM
I was at the Swad Ballyhaise game lastnight. Ballyhaise sneaked it despite Swad having most of the play, Mark Cunningham was a real loss to them. Cullivan and Gearoid had a great tussle in the middle and it got fairly heated. Gearoid came into it well especially in the 2nd half and scored 2 fantastic points in. Cullivan got one monster of a point too when the game was in the melting pot. Swad panicked a little bit too soon and were trying for goals when they could have tried for points to draw level. Ballyhaise just looked to have that little bit more know how and composure but Swad will feel they left the game behind them.

3 red cards, a lot of pulling and dragging and frees.

Any spitting in faces?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on August 27, 2011, 06:19:11 PM
Not that I saw Tommy but with Swad it's always a possibility.

In other news, some comeback by the Cavan Ladies. Aisling Doonan is a fantastic player. Cavan should really have won the game but it's good to get another day out considering they were 8 points down at one stage.

Edit: Like an eejit I switched the station thinking it would be a replay but it seems Cavan hammered them in extra time!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on August 27, 2011, 06:59:00 PM
Quote from: Westside on August 27, 2011, 06:19:11 PM
Not that I saw Tommy but with Swad it's always a possibility.

In other news, some comeback by the Cavan Ladies. Aisling Doonan is a fantastic player. Cavan should really have won the game but it's good to get another day out considering they were 8 points down at one stage.

Edit: Like an eejit I switched the station thinking it would be a replay but it seems Cavan hammered them in extra time!
:D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on August 27, 2011, 09:29:21 PM
Belturbet win by 2.
Ballinagh win by 4. Niall Mc Dermott the difference. Class act.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: PhilsJemmysField on August 29, 2011, 09:37:38 AM
Gaels winning against Kingscourt pulling up over as a contest after 15 minutes when a fine Niall Smith run laid off to Dunne back of the net. Went home with 15 to go and Gaels winning 1 13 t 5.

Knockbride could have beaten Killeshandra had 2 scoring chances after a penalty which would have put them 5 up. Killeshandra worked hard to get back into it (very reliant on hit and hope high balls).  Draw was the fair result. 
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on August 29, 2011, 08:56:53 PM
Heard our very own Val Andrews sounding off on either RTE or Newstalk after the Donegal/Dublin game yesterday. Somebody please tell me he took the trouble to make it to Breffni last night, bad and all as the game was
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on August 29, 2011, 09:44:32 PM
Would he know if there was a game on.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanforever on August 29, 2011, 11:50:54 PM
dont know about last night but he was in attendance for the double header saturday as was terry hyland
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on August 30, 2011, 01:40:30 PM
Well done Joe i you get it.  From Hoganstand

McQuillan set to referee football decider
29 August 2011


Cavan referee Joe McQuillanJoe McQuillan is expected to be announced as this year's All-Ireland senior football final referee in the coming days.

The Cavan official did not take charge of either of this year's All-Ireland semi-finals and is odds on favourite to take charge of the Dublin-Kerry final on September 18.

McQuillan has refereed six football championship games so far this summer and is in line to become the first Cavan man to be appointed to the final since Brian Crowe refereed the Kerry-Mayo decider in 2006.



Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: PhilsJemmysField on August 30, 2011, 02:22:49 PM
Also heard Val on Rte Radio 1 on Sunday evening seems to be the regular GAA pundit. Deveney from Donegal fair took the "P" out of him. Val was very proud that Cavan scored more than anyone else against Donegal. Never mentioned the fact we also conceded more (I think). For the man looking for a match report on Gaels game hard to describe what an absolute cruise it was for them. Kingscourt never laid a hand on them really and apart from Young Dillion, Wakely and maybe two others this was a no contest. Barry Reilly very anonymous.  So read this on that basis ....

http://www.gaeliclife.com/2011/08/22/barry-reilly-says-cavan-should-have-beaten-donegal/
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on August 30, 2011, 02:51:00 PM
Does he actually believe we had enough to beat Donegal and only tactics let us down?? Absolute nonsense. Someone should tell him this isn't U-21.. Donegal going man to man with Cavan are still far superior. He would be better served to try to get back to form (anonymous since the Donegal game in the U21's last year) than giving these sort of interviews.
Also the, mystery U21 player that ridiculed the management on HS, said he played last year's Ulster Final, this years Championship and is underage again this year. By process of elimination....
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on August 30, 2011, 03:34:22 PM
As a Cavan supporter i just want the coming year out of the way and hopefully we will wave goodbye to Val and Terry from the senior setup and start building to the future.

No building will start until Andrews is gone anyway.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on August 30, 2011, 04:24:55 PM
Quote from: Westside on August 30, 2011, 02:51:00 PM
Does he actually believe we had enough to beat Donegal and only tactics let us down?? Absolute nonsense. Someone should tell him this isn't U-21.. Donegal going man to man with Cavan are still far superior. He would be better served to try to get back to form (anonymous since the Donegal game in the U21's last year) than giving these sort of interviews.
Also the, mystery U21 player that ridiculed the management on HS, said he played last year's Ulster Final, this years Championship and is underage again this year. By process of elimination....

That kind of stuff doesn't do anybody any favours and Barry should be staying away from drawing attention to himself with controversial interviews like that. But.....
In the full interview he made some valid points about the tactics used against Donegal. He mentioned about looking at Cavan playing with 2 sweepers in the 2nd half with the wind at our backs and 6 points down.
It might not be his place to be saying it but to this day I will never understand what was going through Val and Terrys head looking in at that. I actually would love to know how they thought we would win a game being set-up like that. And it's for that very reason particularly (along with numerous other gripes) why I can have very little faith in Val Andrews for this coming year. If a rookie underage manager in my club used them kind of tactics I'd be asking questions.
Man for man Donegal are a better team but that day the Management got the team selection and game plan wrong. If those elements are wrong from the start then you have no hope.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up-again on August 30, 2011, 07:11:57 PM
I think to shrug off Barry's opinion on the basis that he has underperformed in some games is a little harsh. If that is the criteria for speaking publicly, who in Cavan is qualified to comment on the current situation?

To be fair to them, he comes across completely honest in the interview. You can agree with them or disagree but they are his opinions and he is entitled to them.

I would also have quite a hunch that some of those quotes were words put in Barry's mouth.

With regards to the Hoganstand stuff I would pay no attention. Sure wasn't Adrian, can't remember his second name, meant to be on it too. That whole site is nonsense. You have lads who are bored, have two or three profiles and just argue with themselves. That is the sad reality of it.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on August 30, 2011, 10:00:30 PM
I must get a copy of Gaelic Life,to read the full interview.
With regards the little tidbit available,Barry is 100% correct in his analysis,
Ive never in all my GAA playing and supporting life seen as inept and pathetic attempt at a so called blanket defence,like Cavans attempt of it against Donegal.
They had no idea whatsoever in how to play it,and that is the managerments fault 110%.
They knew it was most likely going to be Donegal since last November and had 7+ months to prepare for the defensive system which they had seen in the 2010 Under 21 final.
They failed badly in both cases.

I must say in an unrelated point,Barry Reily was a mere shadow of himself this year.
He was the best Senior prospect alongside Givney in 2010 in my opinion,and was terrific for the Stars last year aswell.
In 2011,he was the weak link on the under 21's and seemingly lost all his pace/mobility/swagger which made him such a class act for the last few years etc.
Hoepfully for the county's sake he can regain his form in 2012.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on August 31, 2011, 11:40:56 AM
Quote from: put-it-up-again on August 30, 2011, 07:11:57 PM
I think to shrug off Barry's opinion on the basis that he has underperformed in some games is a little harsh. If that is the criteria for speaking publicly, who in Cavan is qualified to comment on the current situation?

To be fair to them, he comes across completely honest in the interview. You can agree with them or disagree but they are his opinions and he is entitled to them.

I would also have quite a hunch that some of those quotes were words put in Barry's mouth.

With regards to the Hoganstand stuff I would pay no attention. Sure wasn't Adrian, can't remember his second name, meant to be on it too. That whole site is nonsense. You have lads who are bored, have two or three profiles and just argue with themselves. That is the sad reality of it.

I agree. He is entitled to his opinion and he is 100% right in what he said. But without the irony being lost on me, if you've got such strong opinions which are going into the public domain you have to be prepared for the flak and the small-minded reactions which will come with it.
Lets hope Barry Reilly regains the form of 2010 and he can let his football do the talking. But also lets hope he is judged on his football alone and not on his opinions..... Something which doesn't always happen in Cavan.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on August 31, 2011, 07:47:35 PM
I know a lot of what's put on Hogan Stand is to be taken with a pinch of salt but some of ye will have seen some very extensive postings from an Under 21 panel member a month or two ago and it was clear from the level of detail that he was not a wind up merchant. Long and all as I'm gone from that side of the county it didn't take much to work out from the username who it was. The Gaelic Life article seems to confirm that. All totally honest stuff of course, but really put's it up to the lad to perform in future as it's the type of thing that gets thrown back at you by spectators, other players etc. Hope it works out for him.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on August 31, 2011, 11:31:15 PM
I say fair play to him. The senior set up was a shambles from start to finish and blathering on about "building a team for the future" in the celt in the week before the biggest game of the year is one of the most stupid things to ever come out of a management team (might as well have said, its ok to lose boys this year doesn't matter). And then to take the field with no iota of a plan for the 1st or 2nd half was the icing on the cake. The fans deserve to know what ie going on in there as the fans pay for it. Young lads busting their holes playing all year deserve better. I have no confidence in Andrews, king - enough said and Hyland I give a pass to as at least he has something to show for his efforts. I'd like to know if there were other reasons why Hyland left the senior set up?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on September 01, 2011, 10:15:08 AM
He hasn't left it though myles, he is still there as a selector.

I reckon he wants the job for himself and is doing this for what he believes is his own good.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on September 01, 2011, 11:27:20 AM
Quote from: tommysmith on September 01, 2011, 10:15:08 AM
He hasn't left it though myles, he is still there as a selector.

I reckon he wants the job for himself and is doing this for what he believes is his own good.

If that's the case he must suspect Andrews is a clown that will drag him down.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on September 01, 2011, 12:25:39 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on September 01, 2011, 11:27:20 AM
Quote from: tommysmith on September 01, 2011, 10:15:08 AM
He hasn't left it though myles, he is still there as a selector.

I reckon he wants the job for himself and is doing this for what he believes is his own good.

If that's the case he must suspect Andrews is a clown that will drag him down.

I reckon he doesnt think it he knows it but he isnt much better himself
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on September 01, 2011, 01:49:38 PM
Quote from: anglocelt39 on August 29, 2011, 08:56:53 PM
Heard our very own Val Andrews sounding off on either RTE or Newstalk after the Donegal/Dublin game yesterday. Somebody please tell me he took the trouble to make it to Breffni last night, bad and all as the game was

He is near as bad as TC was for the media.

Was that the interview he was blowing that Cavan scored more against Donegal than any other team this year?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on September 01, 2011, 07:21:15 PM
Quote from: tommysmith on September 01, 2011, 01:49:38 PM
Quote from: anglocelt39 on August 29, 2011, 08:56:53 PM
Heard our very own Val Andrews sounding off on either RTE or Newstalk after the Donegal/Dublin game yesterday. Somebody please tell me he took the trouble to make it to Breffni last night, bad and all as the game was

He is near as bad as TC was for the media.

Was that the interview he was blowing that Cavan scored more against Donegal than any other team this year?


Could well have been Tommy to tell the truth I didn't hang on every single word of wisdom he came out with. You are right about TC all right, my greatest moment of anger around Cavan GAA in a long time came the day after our absolute humiliation against Cork and there he is, sounding off on RTE radio about the rights and wrongs of some such team and having a right good laugh with his fellow panelists. Shameless "$!"$!"£$!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on September 01, 2011, 08:31:57 PM
Quote from: tommysmith on September 01, 2011, 12:25:39 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on September 01, 2011, 11:27:20 AM
Quote from: tommysmith on September 01, 2011, 10:15:08 AM
He hasn't left it though myles, he is still there as a selector.

I reckon he wants the job for himself and is doing this for what he believes is his own good.

If that's the case he must suspect Andrews is a clown that will drag him down.

I reckon he doesnt think it he knows it but he isnt much better himself

tommy, i don't know Hyland and never played with him or against him to the best of my knowledge. Someone who played for him told me he was old school and that is as much as I know. But at the end of the day he is the only Cavan manager at any level to win anything of late. I have heard the players of this years U21 panel speak highly of the sense of team in his panel. Surely he has to have some know-how??? The only thing I can't square is how he was involved in such a joke of a senior campaign this year. I can only assume that the other 2 people in their dominated the management team. Thats why it is good to hear Barry Reilly speak out, now if only some co board people would listen.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on September 01, 2011, 09:09:12 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on September 01, 2011, 08:31:57 PM
Quote from: tommysmith on September 01, 2011, 12:25:39 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on September 01, 2011, 11:27:20 AM
Quote from: tommysmith on September 01, 2011, 10:15:08 AM
He hasn't left it though myles, he is still there as a selector.

I reckon he wants the job for himself and is doing this for what he believes is his own good.

If that's the case he must suspect Andrews is a clown that will drag him down.

I reckon he doesnt think it he knows it but he isnt much better himself

tommy, i don't know Hyland and never played with him or against him to the best of my knowledge. Someone who played for him told me he was old school and that is as much as I know. But at the end of the day he is the only Cavan manager at any level to win anything of late. I have heard the players of this years U21 panel speak highly of the sense of team in his panel. Surely he has to have some know-how??? The only thing I can't square is how he was involved in such a joke of a senior campaign this year. I can only assume that the other 2 people in their dominated the management team. Thats why it is good to hear Barry Reilly speak out, now if only some co board people would listen.


We've made a fair oul habit of not having it exactly clear who is in charge for several years now, McIlkennon/Cassidy=right men in wrong positions, Keogan/Grimley, and now Val/Terry whoever. At least in Tommy's case there was no doubt as to where to point the finger.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Breffni_Yank on September 01, 2011, 09:43:05 PM
Was living with one of the u21 in the States this Summer.

He told me Terry's biggest strength was recognising his own weaknessed and putting men in place around him who gave what he lacked.

My own reading of the Hyland situation is that he is choosing himself that his priority will be the u21's for another year. This way if a row erupts about whether the u21's are in with the seniors or not from the start of the year then he can dig his feet in and fight his own corner. I imagine it is impossible to be the manager of two teams and have both their best interests at heart.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on September 02, 2011, 01:37:13 AM
I feel this year is a big one for the U21s. With winning Minors and a good few of last year's U21 team, there is the expectation that they should compete. If they can once again get a run going in what is a very difficult and unpredictable Championship, even an Ulster Final appearance, then we may have a good shot of unearthing some decent prospects and giving real Tyrone/Armagh style belief to our underage structures. We don't want this year to be a flash in the pan.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on September 02, 2011, 02:49:34 PM
The u21s should be able to do well next year. A lot of this year's team are available next year so i would be confident they could go on another run. It would depend on the draw though, Fermanagh and Donegal wasn't the toughest of runs to the Ulster final..
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on September 04, 2011, 10:50:38 AM
Killeshandra bet Knockbride in the replay last night. Man of the Match had to be the referee, Martin Brady (Lacken). He gave an exhibition in how NOT to referee a game. I have seen some shocking displays of refereeing in my time but last nite took the biscuit. A Circus is the best way of describing it.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on September 04, 2011, 11:49:32 AM
Tommy Lyons had a few shockers in his time from your own club booj..  :D but yeah Martin Brady wasn't great last night.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on September 04, 2011, 12:07:48 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on September 04, 2011, 11:49:32 AM
Tommy Lyons had a few shockers in his time from your own club booj..  :D but yeah Martin Brady wasn't great last night.

:D :D I can't argue with that.
But the standard of refereeing has got to be a joke. Every weekend I'm hearing of games with 12 and 14 yellow cards being shown.
Like what are the assessors supposed to be doing? Referees are being rewarded for sticking rigidly to the rulebook. Whatever happened to common sense being used? Whatever happened to letting play go on and then booking a lad when play has stopped? Teams are not being awarded advantage in play. A team is through on goal but the referee blows his whistle to book somebody. Where is the advantage for the team fouled against?

We have a handful of good referees in Cavan. The rest are either not capable, only in it for the money or are too fond of taking sides. That's the reality.
It's not an easy job but at least they are getting reimbursed for it. 
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on September 04, 2011, 11:12:04 PM
Well it might have taken until the last minute but everybody got the row they came to see in Breifni Park tonight!
Conor Madden (a 17 year old) hit a monster 50 m free with the last kick of the game to save Gownas skin for another week anyway!
Then all hell broke loose! ;)
The CCC could be busy this week......
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: PhilsJemmysField on September 05, 2011, 11:05:30 AM
All Hell might have broke loose but it was a great second half of football. McKeever had some game and Galligan's two points for Lacken was something else as well.  A lot of lads both on the field and from the sideline  will miss the next day
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on September 05, 2011, 11:39:45 AM
Mckeever was excellent for Gowna last night. I was sure Lacken has it won after galligan kicked 2 wonder points but gowna battled back thanks to the strong running from Mckeever from the half back line. I thought Lacken played the better football but couldn't hold onto the lead although they came from 5 points down at one stage. Dermot McCabe was fairly animated along the line i wouldn't like to be a Gowna player listening to him for 60 minutes ;D Replay is not for a few weeks.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on September 05, 2011, 11:59:41 AM
Only for Mc Keever last night Gowna would be relegated. Simple as. He dragged them back into a game with his determination, strong running and accurate passing. Unfortunately, looking at him being carried off after the game it looks like he could be a major doubt for the replay.
A mention also has to go to Finbar Reilly who hit 2-5. Not as influential as Mark but he got the 2 goals at vital times.
Looking forward to the replay already!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Kingscourt Stars on September 05, 2011, 10:07:51 PM
Lads, just a quick post to try and promote the club's annual juvenile draw.

First prize is Two Tickets to the All-Ireland Senior Football Final along with overnight accommodation in the Regency Hotel and €200 spending money. There are further cash prizes all the way down to 8th place. Tickets are just €10.

All told, a prize well worth winning so why not try your luck and simultaneously help support all the good work that the many volunteers at underage level put in, not to mention the dedication of the young players as well.

So whether you want to be in with a chance to support your county or maybe you would just like to sample the experience on an All-Ireland Final as a neutral,just click on link below

http://www.myclubfinances.com/tickets.asp?LL_ID=277&CLB=1
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on September 06, 2011, 11:47:10 AM
Did you put that on any Dublin message boards?

I'd reckon you could do well from them with the big ticket shortage this year.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on September 07, 2011, 11:17:28 AM
Who will come through in the two Senior championship games at the weekend? Think Castlerahan will get past belturbet. They were well beaten by belturbet in there first game of the championship but belturbet had played a championship game played before that. Castlerahan have a lot of promise the last few years, a few good u21 teams but failed to anything at seanior level but think this could be the year for them. Think the Gaels will beat Ballinagh in the other semi, they have lost twice to ballinagh already this year but can't see them losing again.Crosserlough and Drumgoon to win in the intermediate semis.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dougal on September 07, 2011, 02:04:44 PM
paddy has the odds up for this weeks senior games. castlerahn 2.1 belturbet 2.00,im really surprised to see belturbet as favourites.gaels 1.28 ballinagh 4.00.both underdogs seem overpriced to me.anyone no the injury situation for any of these teams?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on September 07, 2011, 04:15:43 PM
Castlerahan and belturbet are both evens with boylesports.. Gaels 2/7 and ballinagh 16/5.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: PhilsJemmysField on September 08, 2011, 09:21:10 AM
Please note change to times in next 2 fixtures


Sunday, 11th September 2011 @ 2.30pm
Hotel Kilmore Senior Championship Semi Final
Cavan Gaels v Ballinagh
Venue:  Kingspan Breffni Park
Referee:  Raymond Tynan
Linesmen:  Ciaran McCarville (Standby Referee) & John Cassidy
04th Official:  Chris McCaffrey

Sunday, 11th September 2011 @ 4pm
Farnham Arms Division 1 Championship Final
Cavan Gaels v O'Raghallaigh Gaels
Venue:  Kingspan Breffni Park
Referee:  MG Brady
Linesmen:  Jim Giblin  (Standby Referee) & Ronan Bannon
04th Official:  Conor Dourneen
(Replay if necessary–Saturday 24th September 2011)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on September 09, 2011, 11:47:18 AM

http://www.hoganstand.com/Cavan/ArticleForm.aspx?ID=154755
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on September 09, 2011, 01:21:37 PM
Anyone know anything about John Morrisson?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on September 09, 2011, 01:41:09 PM
Quote from: hardstation on September 09, 2011, 01:26:10 PM
Quote from: Westside on September 09, 2011, 01:21:37 PM
Anyone know anything about John Morrisson?
Mentally unstable if he's touching this job.

I'd say Hardstation would know all about it. Staring at a computer screen 24/ 7 would make any man mentally unstable.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on September 09, 2011, 01:54:33 PM
Quote from: Westside on September 09, 2011, 01:21:37 PM
Anyone know anything about John Morrisson?

Just google him lad. Well renowned in coaching circles. Has worked with Derry, Armagh, Antrim, Donegal, Leitrim etc.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on September 09, 2011, 03:10:57 PM
Quote from: hardstation on September 09, 2011, 01:46:07 PM
It keeps me sane.


17,316 posts and counting maintaining the sanity looks like a full time job
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on September 09, 2011, 05:12:22 PM
I believe he has some very very odd ideas. Didn't he once send the whole mayo panel a Valentines card from Sam maguire? Maybe that's an urban myth.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: CC1 on September 09, 2011, 05:15:25 PM
Best of luck to O'Raghalligh Gaels on Sunday... Hopefully the lads can go all the way and bring the cup home. Should be a great contest between themselves and Cavan Gaels.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on September 09, 2011, 05:59:28 PM
I read up a bit on his views etc there. He seems big into the whole coaching thing. Coaching skills and not drills, he places big emphasis on developing players vision, awareness and decision making and not making robots out of them. He seems to be of the view that these are the essentials and conditioning etc comes after. Could be useful for bringing on the younger lads in the long term if he can actually deliver on all he promises. He's written a fairly comprehensive and well recognised book on coaching endorsed by the GAA.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Sanchez on September 09, 2011, 06:25:32 PM
Quote from: Westside on September 09, 2011, 01:21:37 PM
Anyone know anything about John Morrisson?

He managed our senior team (Eglish, Co Tyrone) this year. He is one big bag of crazy. Plus he walked out on us after we were beating in the championship despite grand talk of a 3 year master plan. Money is his only motivation.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Farrandeelin on September 09, 2011, 10:10:00 PM
Hard to know what to make of Morrison. He could come up with anything at training. Training sessions will be interesting if nothing else!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on September 11, 2011, 12:33:43 AM
SFC semi-final: O'Connell goal sends Castlerahan through

http://hoganstand.com/cavan/ArticleForm.aspx?ID=154815

10 September 2011


Castlerahan 1-8
Belturbet 1-4

Castlerahan booked themselves into a long-awaited Cavan senior football championship final this evening after seeing off 14-man Belturbet at Kingspan Breffni Park.

Oisin O'Connell's 45th minute goal proved the crucial strike which rounded off a splendid third quarter spell for the Ballyjamesduff men, whom had been flat in the first-half against a Belturbet side which led by two points at half-time despite kicking nine wides.

Niall O'Reilly's sending off just before half-time didn't aid the Rories' cause, while the loss of former county ace Eoin McGuigan to injury was also another blow, as they were completely outclassed in a second-half in which they could only muster two scores against the winners, whom now await Ballinagh or Cavan Gaels in the county final.

Oisin O'Connell fired over the opener for Castlerahan inside two minutes after cutting loose down the right flank and drilling between the posts.

However, that would be about as good got for the would-be winner in the opening 30 minutes, as Niall O'Reilly sent Eoin McGuigan through for Belturbet's reply on seven minutes, before the Rories would bring their wides' tally up to six by the 12th minute in their hunt for the lead.

The same O'Reilly eventually gave Beltubet their first lead on the quarter hour mark after Johnny Klusch gathered a short free from Brendan Fitzpatrick and laid off to his centre-forward, as the men wearing black and amber began to dictate things with Damian O'Reilly and Kevin McConnell sweeping up at the back.

Veteran Jason O'Reilly doubled the advantage with a left-footed free, but Belturbet would be dealt a blow when midfielder McGuigan suffered a hit to his kidneys and had to be substituted, with Conor Vaughan taking his place, as the half drew to a close.

It would turn into a double blow for Cathal Murphy's side minutes later, as they would be reduced to 14 men in injury-time when Niall O'Reilly was issued a straight red card for kicking out at Enda O'Connell. The incident led to a melee which took minutes to dissolve, before Brendan Sweeney blew for half-time with the score-line still reading 0-3 to 0-1 in Belturbet's favour.

Having struck nine wides in the opening 30 minutes and lost their only two scores from play thus far, Belturbet faced into an uphill battle in the second-half with their opponents yet to ignite.

Within a minute of the restart all the leaders' good work during the first-half was undone as Paul Brady, now operating at full-forward, shot over two quick scores to level matters for Castlerahan.

Belturbet hadn't received the wake-up call as Sean Brady was denied a goal moments later by David Greene's left hand post, but a Ronan Flanagan free and a slick point from Cian Mackey ushered the now rampant Ballyjamesduff men into a two-point advantage.

A sweetly struck '45' from Brady pushed the lead to three, which should have been reduced when Jason O'Reilly had a relatively simple free in front of goal but his effort rebounded off the post and from there Castlerahan broke to carry possession as far as Oisin O'Connell, who lashed over a superb score from the right sideline.

Belturbet produced their first genuine chance of the second-half from play in the 43rd minute when brilliant work from O'Reilly at full-forward released Brendan Fitzpatrick in front of the posts, but the corner-forward crashed his powerful effort off the underside of Jamie Leahy's crossbar and Castlerahan scrambled to clear the danger.

It proved to be the turning point, as a Stephen Cooney point down the other end was quickly followed up by Oisin O'Connell sneaking in behind the Rories' defence and rolling a cool finish past David Greene for three points which sent Ciaran Macken's charges into a commanding seven-point lead with under a quarter of a hour left.

O'Reilly responded with what was Belturbet's first score of the half 17 minutes in, as they sent seasoned campaigner Ollie Donohoe on at full-forward in search of a goal, which they did manage when the substitute punched to the net after a long ball in from Damian O'Reilly, before the long whistle sounded confirming Castlerahan's place in the decider along side Ballinagh or Cavan Gaels.

Belturbet: David Greene; Stuart Murphy, Damian O'Reilly, Garret McDonald; Mark Teevan, Kevin McConnell, Donald Magee; Eoin McGuigan (0-1), Cormac Rudden; Johnny Klusch, Niall O'Reilly (0-1), Johnny Higgins; Garrett Fitzpatrick, Jason O'Reilly (0-2, 1f), Brendan Fitzpatrick. Subs: Conor Vaughan for McGuigan (29 mins), Ollie Donohoe (1-0) for Rudden (46 mins), Connell McGinley for G Fitzpatrick (59 mins).

Castlerahan: Jamie Leahy; Stephen Cooney (0-1), Eugene Hill, Alan Mulvey; David Wright, Ronan Flanagan (0-1, 1f) Enda O'Connell; Paul Brady (0-2), Alan Cusack; Paul Cusack, Sean Brady (0-1, '45'), Paul Smith; Cian Mackey (0-1), Oisin O'Connell (1-2), John Clarke. Sub: Fergal Flanagan for A Cusack (59 mins).

Ref: Brendan Sweeney (Ballymachugh)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on September 11, 2011, 12:36:24 AM
IFC semi-final: Crosserlough goal blitz stuns Ballyhaise

http://hoganstand.com/cavan/ArticleForm.aspx?ID=154817

10 September 2011

Crosserlough 5-7
Ballyhaise 2-9

Four goals in the space of ten minutes helped Crosserlough book their place into this year's intermediate football championship final at the expense of Ballyhaise tonight at Kingspan Breffni Park.

Bernard Morris's full-forward line combined for 3-7 over the hour, with Enda Gaffney and Barry McKiernan particularly rampant, while Damien Lynch gave an outstanding performance from right half-back.

Both sides had swapped goals in the opening five minutes of this encounter, as Crosserlough went on to lead by the minimum at the halfway stage, but it was the Kilnaleck side that proved they had the superior goal-touch, banging in four majors between the 32nd and 42nd minutes to leave their opponents stunned and themselves with a county final against either Drumgoon or Killeshandra to savour next month.

Enda Gaffney had Crosserlough off the mark after two minutes when he rounded his man and sailed his shot between the uprights.

From the resultant kick-out Ray Cullivan found Colm Reilly in the right corner and the veteran attacker crossed towards goal where a Crosserlough defender carried possession across his own line, under pressure from Gerry McRudden, and the umpire's green flag was raised.

A Stephen Smith free would stretch Ballyhaise's lead to three only momentarily, as their opponents created an opening which saw Gaffney smash a shot off the crossbar and from the rebound Eoin Cusack was quickest to pounced and tuck the ball past goalkeeper Rory Donnellan to leave things at 1-1 apiece.

A Gaffney free and a superb point from Barry McKiernan had the black and ambers back in front, before Eamonn Costello fired over a fine score to bring it back to a one-point game.

Smith and Gaffney (free) swapped scores at the end of an even opening 30 minutes to leave the score-line at 1-4 to 1-3 in Crosserlough's favour for half-time.

Shane McKiernan would look to set the tone for Ballyhaise in the opening seconds of the resumption with a splendid point, but Ray Cullivan's charges would be caught cold by two quick goals from Karl Smith and Barry McKiernan, with the latter's strike coming after some fantastic work by wing-back Damien Lynch to carry possession out of his defence and set-up the corner-forward.

McKiernan would return the favour to the outstanding Lynch later on, but not before the Kilnaleck men would stun their opponents with another major after Karl Smith got himself dragged down in the Ballyhaise square and the lethal Gaffney buried the ball underneath Rory Donnellan's dive.

Stephen Smith shot two points to try and stem the tide for Ballyhaise, but they were quickly wiped out when Bernard Morris's charges again broke superbly out of defence and located McKiernan in the corner from where the ace attacker crossed to the onrushing Lynch in the square and the defender finished goal number five to the net to kill off any outside chance of a Ballyhaise comeback.

The game's second penalty would be awarded just moment later when Colm Reilly was impeded in the Crosserlough square and Shane McKiernan lashed the spot-kick to Ciaran Galligan's right hand corner.

However, the goal would only suffice as consolation, as not evening grabbing the last three scores of the game through McKiernan and substitutes Conor Lyons and Adam Boyle could save Ballyhaise from another intermediate championship exit, with Crosserlough's final place against either Drumgoon or Killeshandra having been long confirmed beforehand.

Crosserlough: Ciaran Galligan; Mark Rehill, Pauric McKiernan, Kevin Finnegan; Damien Lynch (1-0), Colin Lynch, Paul McEvoy; Mark Lynch, James McEvoy; Eoin Cusack (1-0), Declan McCabe, Jimmy Higgins; Barry McKiernan (1-1), Karl Smith (1-0), Enda Gaffney (1-4, 1 pen, 3f). Subs: John Lynch for D McCabe (58mins), Dara McVeety for Cusack (59mins).

Ballyhaise: Rory Donnellan; Aidan Moran, Sean McCormack, Fergal Slowey; Francis Moore, Brendan Lyons, Michael Rooney; Ray Cullivan, Barry McRudden; Kevin Tierney (0-1), Eamonn Costello (0-1), Stephen Smith (0-3, 2f); Colm Reilly, Gerard McRudden, Shane McKiernan (1-2, 1f). Subs: Adam Boyle (0-1) for G McRudden (35mins), Conor Lyons (0-1) for C Reilly (51mins), Donal McGoldrick for Rooney (58mins),

Ref: Donal Reilly (Kingscourt Stars)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Ollie on September 12, 2011, 12:27:13 AM
On the Gaels v Ballinagh match I felt the Gaels were considerably the better team. Ballinagh where very disappointing. There marking was very loose and they lacked creativity in all sectors of the field. If it wasn't for their keeper who made some excellent saves the game would have been over in the first half. I thought the referee was awful. Anytime a player went to ground he blew for a free and he must have dished out at least 12/13 yellow cards with less then half of them being deserving of a yellow card. Martin Dunne was excellent for the Gaels. As was Sexton, Meehen, Smith and Murray. Cant see Castlerahen beating them in the final.
The Minor game was poor. The Gaels never really got going. O'Raghallaigh Gaels had just a bit more strength in power in all sectors of the field. Although its ridiculous that Kingscourt and shercock joined up for the championship. Any team thats capable of winning the League should have no reason to join an amalgamation for the Championship. Wasn't surprised to hear that the Minor Board chairman is a Shercock man.     
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: CC1 on September 12, 2011, 10:04:30 AM
Quote from: Ollie on September 12, 2011, 12:27:13 AMThe Minor game was poor. The Gaels never really got going. O'Raghallaigh Gaels had just a bit more strength in power in all sectors of the field. Although its ridiculous that Kingscourt and shercock joined up for the championship. Any team thats capable of winning the League should have no reason to join an amalgamation for the Championship. Wasn't surprised to hear that the Minor Board chairman is a Shercock man.     
Bitter, bitter post.

First of all, the amalgamation was decided at the very start of the year before the league even started. Shercock and Kingscourt have a history of joining up at under age level and even senior level.

Secondly, how is it ridiculous that Shercock and Kingscourt were allowed to amalgamate? Shercock struggled to field a team this year and on one occasion were forced to forfeit a game because of it. They struggled to get 15 together for other games too. What do you suggest they do for the championship? Not enter a team at all? I can't see how that would help anybody... Kingscourt had low numbers to lesser extent throughout the league, so why not?

Shercock have had to play other amalgamations over the years in Division 2 and 3 (yes an amalgamation in division THREE), such as St. Finbarrs, Cornafean/Killeshandra, all of whom have had players play senior and underage intercounty football over the years we played them (Barry Watters, Ciaran Galligan, Declan McKiernan, Mark Johnston, Cillian Reilly, Liam Duignan etc.). We had great games against them, some we came out on top and others we didn't. Killeshandra and Cornafean would have had good enough players to win those divisions by themselves, but you never had anybody moaning about their amalgamations existance. We understood that it would be tough for them to have 13 players out each time on their own.

O'Raghallaigh Gaels played St. Joseph's (amalgamation), Eire Og Celtics (amalgamation) and Cavan Gaels (a county town team that has more of a pick than Shercock and Kingscourt put together) on their way to winning the championship. So there is obviously no problems with amalgamations in Cavan, our geographical location just seems to have better players than everywhere else at the moment.

It would just be nice to see some grace in defeat from some people.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on September 12, 2011, 11:39:37 AM
Kingscourt won the division 1 league on their own so the main problem people seem to have is that they shouldnt have needed to join up with anyone.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: CC1 on September 12, 2011, 11:49:06 AM
Quote from: tommysmith on September 12, 2011, 11:39:37 AM
Kingscourt won the division 1 league on their own so the main problem people seem to have is that they shouldnt have needed to join up with anyone.
So where would that leave Shercock? With no team at all? Hardly good for football in Cavan to have lads like Killian Clarke, Brian Sankey, Davy Harpur, etc. playing no football.

The amalgamation was made up before the league even started, when the teams had looked at how many eligable minors were at each club.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on September 12, 2011, 11:49:28 AM
Quote from: CC1 on September 12, 2011, 10:04:30 AM
Quote from: Ollie on September 12, 2011, 12:27:13 AMThe Minor game was poor. The Gaels never really got going. O'Raghallaigh Gaels had just a bit more strength in power in all sectors of the field. Although its ridiculous that Kingscourt and shercock joined up for the championship. Any team thats capable of winning the League should have no reason to join an amalgamation for the Championship. Wasn't surprised to hear that the Minor Board chairman is a Shercock man.     
Bitter, bitter post.

First of all, the amalgamation was decided at the very start of the year before the league even started. Shercock and Kingscourt have a history of joining up at under age level and even senior level.

Secondly, how is it ridiculous that Shercock and Kingscourt were allowed to amalgamate? Shercock struggled to field a team this year and on one occasion were forced to forfeit a game because of it. They struggled to get 15 together for other games too. What do you suggest they do for the championship? Not enter a team at all? I can't see how that would help anybody... Kingscourt had low numbers to lesser extent throughout the league, so why not?

Shercock have had to play other amalgamations over the years in Division 2 and 3 (yes an amalgamation in division THREE), such as St. Finbarrs, Cornafean/Killeshandra, all of whom have had players play senior and underage intercounty football over the years we played them (Barry Watters, Ciaran Galligan, Declan McKiernan, Mark Johnston, Cillian Reilly, Liam Duignan etc.). We had great games against them, some we came out on top and others we didn't. Killeshandra and Cornafean would have had good enough players to win those divisions by themselves, but you never had anybody moaning about their amalgamations existance. We understood that it would be tough for them to have 13 players out each time on their own.

O'Raghallaigh Gaels played St. Joseph's (amalgamation), Eire Og Celtics (amalgamation) and Cavan Gaels (a county town team that has more of a pick than Shercock and Kingscourt put together) on their way to winning the championship. So there is obviously no problems with amalgamations in Cavan, our geographical location just seems to have better players than everywhere else at the moment.

It would just be nice to see some grace in defeat from some people.

Firstly CC1 congratulations on a fine win.
I don't think anybody has a problem with Shercock amalgamating to be honest. My problem would be with Kingscourt. They won the Division 1 league on their own. Surely they should have been looking to kick on with their own players and making sure the same lads get as much football as possible.
It's becoming more and more of a divisive topic at the moment at underage in Cavan.
2 years ago I would always have been dead set against amalgamations. My own club in the last few years have struggled to maintain a panel of 18-19 at Minor level. That's the reality even for a town team these days. There is so many options for young lads these days. Soccer, Rugby, Swimming, Golf to name just a few. That's not to mention women (or men  :P) and socialising.
I would always have been happy to stay on our own and make sure everybody gets football but in the last few years the same pattern is emerging. A core of about 6 or 7 footballers from each Minor team sticking at it and the rest will more than likely quit football when they head off to college, work etc. Would the club be better served amalgamating for the sake of the 7 lads who will stick at it for U-21/ Senior level or to go it alone to give the other 10 lads one more final year at football.
I'm now of the opinion that if we don't start to amalgamate with a local club we will be left behind. Most clubs nowadays are considering it and are reaping the rewards for it. Shercock winning 2 Division 1 Minor Championships in the last 3 years being a prime example.
Peter Quinn has suggested the idea of a Super Minor championship and he could be right.
As I have said before amalgamations can only be good for football in the county in the long term but the only way they will ever be sustainable is if clubs are used to playing and training together from a young age eg. St Joes, Redbridge etc.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on September 12, 2011, 11:56:51 AM
Quote from: CC1 on September 12, 2011, 11:49:06 AM
Quote from: tommysmith on September 12, 2011, 11:39:37 AM
Kingscourt won the division 1 league on their own so the main problem people seem to have is that they shouldnt have needed to join up with anyone.
So where would that leave Shercock? With no team at all? Hardly good for football in Cavan to have lads like Killian Clarke, Brian Sankey, Davy Harpur, etc. playing no football.

The amalgamation was made up before the league even started, when the teams had looked at how many eligable minors were at each club.

I was talking about Kingscourt but anyways,

How did Baileboro do in the minor championship? What divison were they in?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: CC1 on September 12, 2011, 12:39:40 PM
Quote from: boojangles on September 12, 2011, 11:49:28 AM
Quote from: CC1 on September 12, 2011, 10:04:30 AM
Quote from: Ollie on September 12, 2011, 12:27:13 AMThe Minor game was poor. The Gaels never really got going. O'Raghallaigh Gaels had just a bit more strength in power in all sectors of the field. Although its ridiculous that Kingscourt and shercock joined up for the championship. Any team thats capable of winning the League should have no reason to join an amalgamation for the Championship. Wasn't surprised to hear that the Minor Board chairman is a Shercock man.     
Bitter, bitter post.

First of all, the amalgamation was decided at the very start of the year before the league even started. Shercock and Kingscourt have a history of joining up at under age level and even senior level.

Secondly, how is it ridiculous that Shercock and Kingscourt were allowed to amalgamate? Shercock struggled to field a team this year and on one occasion were forced to forfeit a game because of it. They struggled to get 15 together for other games too. What do you suggest they do for the championship? Not enter a team at all? I can't see how that would help anybody... Kingscourt had low numbers to lesser extent throughout the league, so why not?

Shercock have had to play other amalgamations over the years in Division 2 and 3 (yes an amalgamation in division THREE), such as St. Finbarrs, Cornafean/Killeshandra, all of whom have had players play senior and underage intercounty football over the years we played them (Barry Watters, Ciaran Galligan, Declan McKiernan, Mark Johnston, Cillian Reilly, Liam Duignan etc.). We had great games against them, some we came out on top and others we didn't. Killeshandra and Cornafean would have had good enough players to win those divisions by themselves, but you never had anybody moaning about their amalgamations existance. We understood that it would be tough for them to have 13 players out each time on their own.

O'Raghallaigh Gaels played St. Joseph's (amalgamation), Eire Og Celtics (amalgamation) and Cavan Gaels (a county town team that has more of a pick than Shercock and Kingscourt put together) on their way to winning the championship. So there is obviously no problems with amalgamations in Cavan, our geographical location just seems to have better players than everywhere else at the moment.

It would just be nice to see some grace in defeat from some people.

Firstly CC1 congratulations on a fine win.
I don't think anybody has a problem with Shercock amalgamating to be honest. My problem would be with Kingscourt. They won the Division 1 league on their own. Surely they should have been looking to kick on with their own players and making sure the same lads get as much football as possible.
It's becoming more and more of a divisive topic at the moment at underage in Cavan.
2 years ago I would always have been dead set against amalgamations. My own club in the last few years have struggled to maintain a panel of 18-19 at Minor level. That's the reality even for a town team these days. There is so many options for young lads these days. Soccer, Rugby, Swimming, Golf to name just a few. That's not to mention women (or men  :P) and socialising.
I would always have been happy to stay on our own and make sure everybody gets football but in the last few years the same pattern is emerging. A core of about 6 or 7 footballers from each Minor team sticking at it and the rest will more than likely quit football when they head off to college, work etc. Would the club be better served amalgamating for the sake of the 7 lads who will stick at it for U-21/ Senior level or to go it alone to give the other 10 lads one more final year at football.
I'm now of the opinion that if we don't start to amalgamate with a local club we will be left behind. Most clubs nowadays are considering it and are reaping the rewards for it. Shercock winning 2 Division 1 Minor Championships in the last 3 years being a prime example.
Peter Quinn has suggested the idea of a Super Minor championship and he could be right.
As I have said before amalgamations can only be good for football in the county in the long term but the only way they will ever be sustainable is if clubs are used to playing and training together from a young age eg. St Joes, Redbridge etc.
Thanks booj, success doesn't come around these parts all that often so we will enjoy it while we can!

I can understand everybodies feelings on Kingscourt, but everybody must know at this stage that the amalgamation for the championship was made up long before Kingscourt won their league title. At that stage neither Shercock nor Kingscourt knew how things would pan out for either club on the pitch, all they knew was that the numbers were quite low and that any injuries or suspensions would mean they would have to conceed games. Fortunately for Kingscourt they were ok during their league campaign injury and suspension wise.

Obviously both clubs, Kingscourt and Shercock would have loved to go into the Championship alone but it was not an option given the fact that both had very low numbers. Shercock had 6 or 7 Division 1 standard players and would have a strong team by themselves both this year and in 09 with Killann Gaels if they had enough players to make up a squad, but didn't. That is what made the both amalgamations so strong.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up-again on September 12, 2011, 12:50:16 PM
I coached the Bailieborough minors a few times before the Championship.  We had 17 players togged out for the championship and I can count on one hand the amount of times we had more than 10 at training. Lost the first game in Division One to Ballyhaise. We badly needed to amalgamate to be competitive. 

Asked a few officials why we weren't amalgamated with Shercock, like we have for the last five years I think, and I never got a straight answer. I can only imagine how petty the row was.

I played Minor football for four years with the club and each year we were with Shercock. I never won a thing or got near a final. You can't start complaining about amalgamations just because they are starting to win something. Nobody has a problem with all the other amalgations that lost and Cavan Gaels domination of this grade is not good for the county.

The only thing that would annoy me is that I was told for one of the earlier championship games Shercock/Kingscourt had a panel of 32. To me that is wrong. There is `17 lads sitting on the bench getting no football. Is that good for trying to keep lads at footballl with everything else going on? They should have at least entered a team into the bottom Division and played in that to give a few lads a game. I know it means on average that each club only has 16 players and I dont blame for amalgamating but something needs to be done to cater those other lads.

I'd love to see a 7's competition ran for the minor grade. Get every team down to Breffni for a day. Use the three pitches and let the Division One teams enter two teams. Just let everyone play football and let them have the craic. Do a few different prizes and let the day be more fun based than about winning. The championship is over now and the reality is some lads will never kick a ball again. Would love someone to pull it together when the championship ends.

The facilities are there to do it. Would love to see it happen
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on September 12, 2011, 01:42:29 PM
So do Shercock join with Kingcourt or Bailieborough depending on which has best chance of winning?

I am just curious and dont really care its just intersting how clubs are swapping and changing who they are joining with.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dougal on September 12, 2011, 01:56:05 PM
Quote from: tommysmith on September 12, 2011, 01:42:29 PM
So do Shercock join with Kingcourt or Bailieborough depending on which has best chance of winning?

I am just curious and dont really care its just intersting how clubs are swapping and changing who they are joining with.

the thing im curious about is why if two teams are going to struggle to put out a team unless they amalgamate.why do they struggle for the 7 games then join up for what might possibly be 1 game.surely if you know at the start of the year your going to struggle you should join for the whole season.ive always thought amalgamations were the way to go,but i think it needs to be done for the whole season.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: CC1 on September 12, 2011, 02:38:19 PM
Quote from: tommysmith on September 12, 2011, 01:42:29 PM
So do Shercock join with Kingcourt or Bailieborough depending on which has best chance of winning?

I am just curious and dont really care its just intersting how clubs are swapping and changing who they are joining with.
Well for the last number of years Shercock have joined with Bailieborough because they are in the same parish as us. Not sure why it has changed this year, might have been a disagreement somewhere between the two but that is just a guess.

It has nothing to do with whoever has the best chance of winning. It is whoever is interested in joining up with us and forming a team in Division 1. We had on average 8-9 players playing in each game so its not like we have one or two lads hanging onto the others coat tails and getting "easy" medals. It was very much a team effort.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on September 12, 2011, 02:41:41 PM
Quote from: Dougal on September 12, 2011, 01:56:05 PM
Quote from: tommysmith on September 12, 2011, 01:42:29 PM
So do Shercock join with Kingcourt or Bailieborough depending on which has best chance of winning?

I am just curious and dont really care its just intersting how clubs are swapping and changing who they are joining with.

the thing im curious about is why if two teams are going to struggle to put out a team unless they amalgamate.why do they struggle for the 7 games then join up for what might possibly be 1 game.surely if you know at the start of the year your going to struggle you should join for the whole season.ive always thought amalgamations were the way to go,but i think it needs to be done for the whole season.

That is what should happen tbf.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Ollie on September 12, 2011, 03:31:45 PM
Quote from: CC1 on September 12, 2011, 10:04:30 AM
Quote from: Ollie on September 12, 2011, 12:27:13 AMThe Minor game was poor. The Gaels never really got going. O'Raghallaigh Gaels had just a bit more strength in power in all sectors of the field. Although its ridiculous that Kingscourt and shercock joined up for the championship. Any team thats capable of winning the League should have no reason to join an amalgamation for the Championship. Wasn't surprised to hear that the Minor Board chairman is a Shercock man.     
Bitter, bitter post.

First of all, the amalgamation was decided at the very start of the year before the league even started. Shercock and Kingscourt have a history of joining up at under age level and even senior level.

Secondly, how is it ridiculous that Shercock and Kingscourt were allowed to amalgamate? Shercock struggled to field a team this year and on one occasion were forced to forfeit a game because of it. They struggled to get 15 together for other games too. What do you suggest they do for the championship? Not enter a team at all? I can't see how that would help anybody... Kingscourt had low numbers to lesser extent throughout the league, so why not?

Shercock have had to play other amalgamations over the years in Division 2 and 3 (yes an amalgamation in division THREE), such as St. Finbarrs, Cornafean/Killeshandra, all of whom have had players play senior and underage intercounty football over the years we played them (Barry Watters, Ciaran Galligan, Declan McKiernan, Mark Johnston, Cillian Reilly, Liam Duignan etc.). We had great games against them, some we came out on top and others we didn't. Killeshandra and Cornafean would have had good enough players to win those divisions by themselves, but you never had anybody moaning about their amalgamations existance. We understood that it would be tough for them to have 13 players out each time on their own.

O'Raghallaigh Gaels played St. Joseph's (amalgamation), Eire Og Celtics (amalgamation) and Cavan Gaels (a county town team that has more of a pick than Shercock and Kingscourt put together) on their way to winning the championship. So there is obviously no problems with amalgamations in Cavan, our geographical location just seems to have better players than everywhere else at the moment.

It would just be nice to see some grace in defeat from some people.

Sorry but your argument doesn't add up. If this amalgamation was agreed upon at the start of the year then how come O'Raghallaigh Gaels didn't compete in the League? And after winning the League why did Kingscourt go ahead with the amalgamation? granted they they had a small panel but if it was sufficient to get through the League then it should have been more than capable of withstanding the championship. Would it have not been more appropriate for Shercock to join up with another smaller club in that area such as Bailieborough, Knockbride or Drumgoon or did they all manage to cope fine in their Minor grade? I get the impression that the Minor Board felt this amalgamation with be the strongest combination in what is a weak minor championship and so they went ahead with it.
That being said congrats to Kingscourt on winning the League and O'Raghallaigh Gaels on winning the championship. I think Dillon, Faulkner, Sankey and Clarke have the ability to become top class footballers. And I'm not one bit bitter. I'm proud of the Gaels lads. It's a testament to both them and the club that it took the makings of two good clubs to beat them.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: CC1 on September 12, 2011, 05:49:37 PM
Quote from: Ollie on September 12, 2011, 03:31:45 PM
Sorry but your argument doesn't add up. If this amalgamation was agreed upon at the start of the year then how come O'Raghallaigh Gaels didn't compete in the League? And after winning the League why did Kingscourt go ahead with the amalgamation? granted they they had a small panel but if it was sufficient to get through the League then it should have been more than capable of withstanding the championship. Would it have not been more appropriate for Shercock to join up with another smaller club in that area such as Bailieborough, Knockbride or Drumgoon or did they all manage to cope fine in their Minor grade? I get the impression that the Minor Board felt this amalgamation with be the strongest combination in what is a weak minor championship and so they went ahead with it.
That being said congrats to Kingscourt on winning the League and O'Raghallaigh Gaels on winning the championship. I think Dillon, Faulkner, Sankey and Clarke have the ability to become top class footballers. And I'm not one bit bitter. I'm proud of the Gaels lads. It's a testament to both them and the club that it took the makings of two good clubs to beat them.
You ARE bitter. If you want proof, just read your first post again.

Why did Drumgoon and Cootehill compete in the league as Eire Og Celtics? Why didn't Ramor and Killinkere amalgamate for the league? I believe it is to have the top players playing in the top division in order to provide a higher standard of football at minor championship level. That is my take on it anyway. In the league I'm sure both clubs wanted to take a stab at it alone. In hindsight though they should have played as O'Raghallaigh Gaels in the league. Maybe that would have avoided Shercock having to concede a game for not having enough fit players.

Would it have been appropriate for Shercock to join with Bailieborough, Knockbride or Drumgoon? Well Bailieborough would have been a more traditional one, something seems to have happened that made it unworkable for this year anyway. Drumgoon or Knockbride are complete no, no's given our rivalries and no historical or parishonal connection.

Yes it took the makings of two good clubs to beat Cavan Gaels, but fact is that Cavan Gaels have a huge pick compared to any team in the county, and what the county board should be doing is finding a balance so that all clubs can compete. So count yourselves very lucky that at senior level, you do have the advantage of population on your side.

You should be proud of your players surely, but you should also keep the bitterness out of it.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: RacingPost09 on September 12, 2011, 06:06:30 PM
I was told the reason Shercock did not amalgamate with Bailieboro at minor level was because Shercock wanted to amalgamate at both the minor and U16 grade but Bailieboro didn't want this however Kingscourt were willing to. I hear nobody giving out about the O'Raghallaigh Gaels amalgamation at U16 level, is this because they didn't win? Would it have been a different story if they did win?

O'Raghallaigh Gaels have been training together since before a ball had been kicked in the league, as well as training with their respective clubs and have put a lot of effort into winning this minor championship. Yes Kingscourt did win the league, but this amalgamation had been decided on a long time before this and although clubs did put in complaints there was no rule stating that because a club won the league then their amalgamation had to be scraped. If the county board was to scrap this amalgamation they all would have to be scraped. Would this have achieved anything? That would have meant that  many of the smaller clubs would not be able to field a team at all.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on September 12, 2011, 06:12:03 PM
Quote from: RacingPost09 on September 12, 2011, 06:06:30 PM
I was told the reason Shercock did not amalgamate with Bailieboro at minor level was because Shercock wanted to amalgamate at both the minor and U16 grade but Bailieboro didn't want this however Kingscourt were willing to. I hear nobody giving out about the O'Raghallaigh Gaels amalgamation at U16 level, is this because they didn't win? Would it have been a different story if they did win?

O'Raghallaigh Gaels have been training together since before a ball had been kicked in the league, as well as training with their respective clubs and have put a lot of effort into winning this minor championship. Yes Kingscourt did win the league, but this amalgamation had been decided on a long time before this and although clubs did put in complaints there was no rule stating that because a club won the league then their amalgamation had to be scraped. If the county board was to scrap this amalgamation they all would have to be scraped. Would this have achieved anything? That would have meant that  many of the smaller clubs would not be able to field a team at all.

Do you know why they didnt join up for the league?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Ollie on September 12, 2011, 06:41:34 PM
Quote from: CC1 on September 12, 2011, 05:49:37 PM
Quote from: Ollie on September 12, 2011, 03:31:45 PM
Sorry but your argument doesn't add up. If this amalgamation was agreed upon at the start of the year then how come O'Raghallaigh Gaels didn't compete in the League? And after winning the League why did Kingscourt go ahead with the amalgamation? granted they they had a small panel but if it was sufficient to get through the League then it should have been more than capable of withstanding the championship. Would it have not been more appropriate for Shercock to join up with another smaller club in that area such as Bailieborough, Knockbride or Drumgoon or did they all manage to cope fine in their Minor grade? I get the impression that the Minor Board felt this amalgamation with be the strongest combination in what is a weak minor championship and so they went ahead with it.
That being said congrats to Kingscourt on winning the League and O'Raghallaigh Gaels on winning the championship. I think Dillon, Faulkner, Sankey and Clarke have the ability to become top class footballers. And I'm not one bit bitter. I'm proud of the Gaels lads. It's a testament to both them and the club that it took the makings of two good clubs to beat them.
You ARE bitter. If you want proof, just read your first post again.

Why did Drumgoon and Cootehill compete in the league as Eire Og Celtics? Why didn't Ramor and Killinkere amalgamate for the league? I believe it is to have the top players playing in the top division in order to provide a higher standard of football at minor championship level. That is my take on it anyway. In the league I'm sure both clubs wanted to take a stab at it alone. In hindsight though they should have played as O'Raghallaigh Gaels in the league. Maybe that would have avoided Shercock having to concede a game for not having enough fit players.

Would it have been appropriate for Shercock to join with Bailieborough, Knockbride or Drumgoon? Well Bailieborough would have been a more traditional one, something seems to have happened that made it unworkable for this year anyway. Drumgoon or Knockbride are complete no, no's given our rivalries and no historical or parishonal connection.

Yes it took the makings of two good clubs to beat Cavan Gaels, but fact is that Cavan Gaels have a huge pick compared to any team in the county, and what the county board should be doing is finding a balance so that all clubs can compete. So count yourselves very lucky that at senior level, you do have the advantage of population on your side.

You should be proud of your players surely, but you should also keep the bitterness out of it.

I think you can rule out the accusation of bitterness seeing as some of the neutral contributors on this forum in last 24 hours are against this amalgamation. I just don't think that there's any justifiable reason why the Kingscourt team which comprehensively beat us in the League would need an amalgamation to get through the championship. Regardless of what arrangement was put in place at the start of the year I feel it was wrong for the amalgamation to go ahead. O'Raghallaigh Gaels didnt even have enough jersey for the entire squad during the semi-final because of the amount of subs they had. The majority of those lads saw no championship football. So how is that good for either club when a sizeable majority of their players aren't even playing!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: CC1 on September 12, 2011, 06:57:00 PM
Quote from: Ollie on September 12, 2011, 06:41:34 PM
Quote from: CC1 on September 12, 2011, 05:49:37 PM
Quote from: Ollie on September 12, 2011, 03:31:45 PM
Sorry but your argument doesn't add up. If this amalgamation was agreed upon at the start of the year then how come O'Raghallaigh Gaels didn't compete in the League? And after winning the League why did Kingscourt go ahead with the amalgamation? granted they they had a small panel but if it was sufficient to get through the League then it should have been more than capable of withstanding the championship. Would it have not been more appropriate for Shercock to join up with another smaller club in that area such as Bailieborough, Knockbride or Drumgoon or did they all manage to cope fine in their Minor grade? I get the impression that the Minor Board felt this amalgamation with be the strongest combination in what is a weak minor championship and so they went ahead with it.
That being said congrats to Kingscourt on winning the League and O'Raghallaigh Gaels on winning the championship. I think Dillon, Faulkner, Sankey and Clarke have the ability to become top class footballers. And I'm not one bit bitter. I'm proud of the Gaels lads. It's a testament to both them and the club that it took the makings of two good clubs to beat them.
You ARE bitter. If you want proof, just read your first post again.

Why did Drumgoon and Cootehill compete in the league as Eire Og Celtics? Why didn't Ramor and Killinkere amalgamate for the league? I believe it is to have the top players playing in the top division in order to provide a higher standard of football at minor championship level. That is my take on it anyway. In the league I'm sure both clubs wanted to take a stab at it alone. In hindsight though they should have played as O'Raghallaigh Gaels in the league. Maybe that would have avoided Shercock having to concede a game for not having enough fit players.

Would it have been appropriate for Shercock to join with Bailieborough, Knockbride or Drumgoon? Well Bailieborough would have been a more traditional one, something seems to have happened that made it unworkable for this year anyway. Drumgoon or Knockbride are complete no, no's given our rivalries and no historical or parishonal connection.

Yes it took the makings of two good clubs to beat Cavan Gaels, but fact is that Cavan Gaels have a huge pick compared to any team in the county, and what the county board should be doing is finding a balance so that all clubs can compete. So count yourselves very lucky that at senior level, you do have the advantage of population on your side.

You should be proud of your players surely, but you should also keep the bitterness out of it.

I think you can rule out the accusation of bitterness seeing as some of the neutral contributors on this forum in last 24 hours are against this amalgamation. I just don't think that there's any justifiable reason why the Kingscourt team which comprehensively beat us in the League would need an amalgamation to get through the championship. Regardless of what arrangement was put in place at the start of the year I feel it was wrong for the amalgamation to go ahead. O'Raghallaigh Gaels didnt even have enough jersey for the entire squad during the semi-final because of the amount of subs they had. The majority of those lads saw no championship football. So how is that good for either club when a sizeable majority of their players aren't even playing!
You are bitter because your first post after the final was to say that Shercock and Kingscourt should not have been allowed to amalgamate and that it's no surprise that the Minor board chairman was from Shercock. It is just pure bitterness. Like racingpost said, nobody said a word about the u16 O'RG amalgamation. Why? Because they didn't win.

I wasn't at the semi final but it is good that the lads were enthusiastic enough to tog out for it in such numbers. I know all of the Shercock lads on the panel and not one of them had a bad thing to say about it, that includes the subs. These lads probably wouldn't have had the chance be playing ball if the amalgamation hadn't to happen anyway so that makes your point null and void. Like I said, imagine if the likes of Clarke, Sankey, the Clerkins, Harpur etc not being able to play at all because of lack of numbers...
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Ollie on September 12, 2011, 07:32:55 PM
Quote from: CC1 on September 12, 2011, 06:57:00 PM
Quote from: Ollie on September 12, 2011, 06:41:34 PM
Quote from: CC1 on September 12, 2011, 05:49:37 PM
Quote from: Ollie on September 12, 2011, 03:31:45 PM
Sorry but your argument doesn't add up. If this amalgamation was agreed upon at the start of the year then how come O'Raghallaigh Gaels didn't compete in the League? And after winning the League why did Kingscourt go ahead with the amalgamation? granted they they had a small panel but if it was sufficient to get through the League then it should have been more than capable of withstanding the championship. Would it have not been more appropriate for Shercock to join up with another smaller club in that area such as Bailieborough, Knockbride or Drumgoon or did they all manage to cope fine in their Minor grade? I get the impression that the Minor Board felt this amalgamation with be the strongest combination in what is a weak minor championship and so they went ahead with it.
That being said congrats to Kingscourt on winning the League and O'Raghallaigh Gaels on winning the championship. I think Dillon, Faulkner, Sankey and Clarke have the ability to become top class footballers. And I'm not one bit bitter. I'm proud of the Gaels lads. It's a testament to both them and the club that it took the makings of two good clubs to beat them.
You ARE bitter. If you want proof, just read your first post again.

Why did Drumgoon and Cootehill compete in the league as Eire Og Celtics? Why didn't Ramor and Killinkere amalgamate for the league? I believe it is to have the top players playing in the top division in order to provide a higher standard of football at minor championship level. That is my take on it anyway. In the league I'm sure both clubs wanted to take a stab at it alone. In hindsight though they should have played as O'Raghallaigh Gaels in the league. Maybe that would have avoided Shercock having to concede a game for not having enough fit players.

Would it have been appropriate for Shercock to join with Bailieborough, Knockbride or Drumgoon? Well Bailieborough would have been a more traditional one, something seems to have happened that made it unworkable for this year anyway. Drumgoon or Knockbride are complete no, no's given our rivalries and no historical or parishonal connection.

Yes it took the makings of two good clubs to beat Cavan Gaels, but fact is that Cavan Gaels have a huge pick compared to any team in the county, and what the county board should be doing is finding a balance so that all clubs can compete. So count yourselves very lucky that at senior level, you do have the advantage of population on your side.

You should be proud of your players surely, but you should also keep the bitterness out of it.

I think you can rule out the accusation of bitterness seeing as some of the neutral contributors on this forum in last 24 hours are against this amalgamation. I just don't think that there's any justifiable reason why the Kingscourt team which comprehensively beat us in the League would need an amalgamation to get through the championship. Regardless of what arrangement was put in place at the start of the year I feel it was wrong for the amalgamation to go ahead. O'Raghallaigh Gaels didnt even have enough jersey for the entire squad during the semi-final because of the amount of subs they had. The majority of those lads saw no championship football. So how is that good for either club when a sizeable majority of their players aren't even playing!
You are bitter because your first post after the final was to say that Shercock and Kingscourt should not have been allowed to amalgamate and that it's no surprise that the Minor board chairman was from Shercock. It is just pure bitterness. Like racingpost said, nobody said a word about the u16 O'RG amalgamation. Why? Because they didn't win.

I wasn't at the semi final but it is good that the lads were enthusiastic enough to tog out for it in such numbers. I know all of the Shercock lads on the panel and not one of them had a bad thing to say about it, that includes the subs. These lads probably wouldn't have had the chance be playing ball if the amalgamation hadn't to happen anyway so that makes your point null and void. Like I said, imagine if the likes of Clarke, Sankey, the Clerkins, Harpur etc not being able to play at all because of lack of numbers...

You need to take your head out of the sand. The under 16s amalgamation is completely different seeing as they competed in the League rather than in the minor were Kingscourt won the League and then decided to enter the championship with the inclusion of shercocks best players. I doubt this amalgamation would have taken place had the Minor board Chairman not have a close affiliation with the clubs involved. It simply isn't fair on the other clubs competing that the League champions could enhance their squad for the championship by calling on their neighbours club for their players. Bottom line is Kingscourt had no reason to be involved in an amalgamation at minor level this year.
   
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on September 12, 2011, 08:26:56 PM
Just a couple of points on this one...

Eire Og Celtic didn't play together in the league just the championship - and I'm sure our players will have improved no end from playing two games (one an absolute hammering) at a higher standard  ::)  Although in fairness I think you meant to ask "why did they compete in the C'ship" and not the league.

And I'll play the Devils advocate for a moment, imagine Cavan Gaels were struggling for numbers and decided prior to the league to join up with another club for the championship (I know, I know but bear with me).  Imagine now Cavan Gaels winning the league, still amalgamating for the Championship and then winning it out.... Now could you imagine the hysteria that situation would create??

Now change Cavan Gaels's name with Kingscourt and you have the current situation....
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Ollie on September 12, 2011, 08:43:44 PM
Quote from: Celt_Man on September 12, 2011, 08:26:56 PM
Just a couple of points on this one...

Eire Og Celtic didn't play together in the league just the championship - and I'm sure our players will have improved no end from playing two games (one an absolute hammering) at a higher standard  ::)  Although in fairness I think you meant to ask "why did they compete in the C'ship" and not the league.

And I'll play the Devils advocate for a moment, imagine Cavan Gaels were struggling for numbers and decided prior to the league to join up with another club for the championship (I know, I know but bear with me).  Imagine now Cavan Gaels winning the league, still amalgamating for the Championship and then winning it out.... Now could you imagine the hysteria that situation would create??

Now change Cavan Gaels's name with Kingscourt and you have the current situation....

Any team which is capable of winning the Div 1 Minor League have no justifiable reason for joining an Amalgamation for the championship in the same year. It doesn't matter what club it is.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on September 12, 2011, 09:06:15 PM
Quote from: Celt_Man on September 12, 2011, 08:26:56 PM
Just a couple of points on this one...

Eire Og Celtic didn't play together in the league just the championship - and I'm sure our players will have improved no end from playing two games (one an absolute hammering) at a higher standard  ::)  Although in fairness I think you meant to ask "why did they compete in the C'ship" and not the league.

And I'll play the Devils advocate for a moment, imagine Cavan Gaels were struggling for numbers and decided prior to the league to join up with another club for the championship (I know, I know but bear with me).  Imagine now Cavan Gaels winning the league, still amalgamating for the Championship and then winning it out.... Now could you imagine the hysteria that situation would create??Now change Cavan Gaels's name with Kingscourt and you have the current situation....

Good point. There would be some amount of crowing alright.

So who represents Cavan in the St Pauls Belfast tournament now?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on September 12, 2011, 09:07:11 PM
There have been amalgamations and banging on about same in Cavan minor football since year dot. And clearly there have to be if there is to be meaningful competition. Clubs exist on the basis of their most senior team being able to choose from a playing population aged 18 to 40 plus this doesn't always mean they can put out a minor team that will cut the mustard. If you go back to the late 70's I remember the Gaels giving a Baileiborough/Shercock amalgamation a right kicking in a County final and I don't recall anybody bitching too much about the relevant amalgamation. Following year the same East Cavan amalgamation suffered a surprise County final defeat against a West Cavan combination that was spread across 2, 3 or 4 parishes depending on which bellyacher you were listening to.

There's another side to Ollie's argument and that's what to do about the number of good underage players from the Gaels club that have been lost to the game over the past 10 years because of, effectively been unable to make the breakthrough to the senior ranks. I'd be no fan of the Gaels but clearly they put serious work in at underage level over the last 10 years. I'm sure there are at least 10 lads lost to the game over that time that would do a job in making the likes of Killygarry, Drumalee more competitive than the are. In fairness I suppose changing your club isn't for everybody but it's just another thing to be looked at if progress is to be made,
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on September 12, 2011, 09:22:01 PM
The question about amalgamations is a simple enough one. Is the GAA about getting all players from your local area involved in playing in competition at a suitable level or is it about getting "elite" teams of players to challenge for the top honours in the game. My opinion is that the GAA is all about the former. I believe amalgamations should only be allowed where the two teams involved could not field a team on their own. If Shercock could not field a team they should be compelled to play with another team with a similar problem. If their amalgamation had 35 people togged then there is something wrong there imo. It is my opinion that the county board should create a role for someone to asses whether amalgamations are for necessity or for a hunger to win at all costs. It is also my opinion that clubs should not be leaving any player behind and it is worth noting that the great Henry Shefflin could not make his club U16 team. Sometimes those fringe players can be late bloomers.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on September 12, 2011, 11:58:33 PM
Cavan Gaels( amalgamation of Cavan Harps and Cavan Slashers)
O'Raghallaigh Gaels (Kingscourt and Sherock)
Eire Og Celtic(C'hill and Goonies)
I reckon all amalgamations should be disqualified and Ballyhaise(with 10 Under 16's on the team), being the only registered club team left in the last 4 should  therefore be awarded the championship.Whose with me???
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on September 13, 2011, 12:35:28 AM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on September 12, 2011, 11:58:33 PM
Cavan Gaels( amalgamation of Cavan Harps and Cavan Slashers)
O'Raghallaigh Gaels (Kingscourt and Sherock)
Eire Og Celtic(C'hill and Goonies)
I reckon all amalgamations should be disqualified and Ballyhaise(with 10 Under 16's on the team), being the only registered club team left in the last 4 should  therefore be awarded the championship.Whose with me???

If you let us back into the Division 4 Championship where I think we really could have given it a rattle then you've my vote....
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on September 13, 2011, 12:45:08 AM
Quote from: Ollie on September 12, 2011, 08:43:44 PM
Any team which is capable of winning the Div 1 Minor League have no justifiable reason for joining an Amalgamation for the championship in the same year. It doesn't matter what club it is.

My point exactly.... It's opening the door for all sorts of carry on down the line
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on September 13, 2011, 01:36:19 AM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on September 12, 2011, 09:22:01 PM
The question about amalgamations is a simple enough one. Is the GAA about getting all players from your local area involved in playing in competition at a suitable level or is it about getting "elite" teams of players to challenge for the top honours in the game.

And that my friends is the crux of the matter....
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on September 13, 2011, 09:14:33 AM
Quote from: Celt_Man on September 13, 2011, 01:36:19 AM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on September 12, 2011, 09:22:01 PM
The question about amalgamations is a simple enough one. Is the GAA about getting all players from your local area involved in playing in competition at a suitable level or is it about getting "elite" teams of players to challenge for the top honours in the game.

And that my friends is the crux of the matter....

It's not a cut and dry matter in my eyes. I would be fairly confident some lads from my own club who have quit the game would still be playing now or would have had prolonged careers had they been part of a team who had competed at Division One Minor championship level.
Drumalee competed at that level for 3 years on their own in 2002, 2003 and 2004 winning a Division One Minor League once. The nucleus of them teams formed the back bone of our 2 Intermediate Championship winning teams and our Senior team at the moment.
Killeshandra, Redhills, Butlersbridge, Arva, Shercock to name a few, are clubs who IMO have benefitted greatly from having their best underage players playing Division One football. The first three have all won Junior Championships in the last 6 years and the first two are playing Division One football.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on September 13, 2011, 09:32:43 AM
Quote from: boojangles on September 13, 2011, 09:14:33 AM
Quote from: Celt_Man on September 13, 2011, 01:36:19 AM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on September 12, 2011, 09:22:01 PM
The question about amalgamations is a simple enough one. Is the GAA about getting all players from your local area involved in playing in competition at a suitable level or is it about getting "elite" teams of players to challenge for the top honours in the game.

And that my friends is the crux of the matter....

It's not a cut and dry matter in my eyes. I would be fairly confident some lads from my own club who have quit the game would still be playing now or would have had prolonged careers had they been part of a team who had competed at Division One Minor championship level.
Drumalee competed at that level for 3 years on their own in 2002, 2003 and 2004 winning a Division One Minor League once. The nucleus of them teams formed the back bone of our 2 Intermediate Championship winning teams and our Senior team at the moment.
Killeshandra, Redhills, Butlersbridge, Arva, Shercock to name a few, are clubs who IMO have benefitted greatly from having their best underage players playing Division One football. The first three have all won Junior Championships in the last 6 years and the first two are playing Division One football.

I dont agree with that if players are good enough playing divison 1 or 2 championship isnt going to make or break them.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on September 13, 2011, 10:14:11 AM
Quote from: tommysmith on September 13, 2011, 09:32:43 AM
Quote from: boojangles on September 13, 2011, 09:14:33 AM
Quote from: Celt_Man on September 13, 2011, 01:36:19 AM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on September 12, 2011, 09:22:01 PM
The question about amalgamations is a simple enough one. Is the GAA about getting all players from your local area involved in playing in competition at a suitable level or is it about getting "elite" teams of players to challenge for the top honours in the game.

And that my friends is the crux of the matter....

It's not a cut and dry matter in my eyes. I would be fairly confident some lads from my own club who have quit the game would still be playing now or would have had prolonged careers had they been part of a team who had competed at Division One Minor championship level.
Drumalee competed at that level for 3 years on their own in 2002, 2003 and 2004 winning a Division One Minor League once. The nucleus of them teams formed the back bone of our 2 Intermediate Championship winning teams and our Senior team at the moment.
Killeshandra, Redhills, Butlersbridge, Arva, Shercock to name a few, are clubs who IMO have benefitted greatly from having their best underage players playing Division One football. The first three have all won Junior Championships in the last 6 years and the first two are playing Division One football.

I dont agree with that if players are good enough playing divison 1 or 2 championship isnt going to make or break them.

The facts don't lie Tommy. Clubs who consistently compete at Division One underage consistently compete at Division One at Senior level. Cavan Gaels, Kingscourt, Castlerahan.
Mullahoran and Gowna have been struggling at underage for a number of years and the future doesn't look good for them.
Redhills and Killeshandra had been struggling for years until they decided to amalgamate with other clubs. Now they are both in Division One.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on September 13, 2011, 10:29:29 AM
Quote from: boojangles on September 13, 2011, 10:14:11 AM
Quote from: tommysmith on September 13, 2011, 09:32:43 AM
Quote from: boojangles on September 13, 2011, 09:14:33 AM
Quote from: Celt_Man on September 13, 2011, 01:36:19 AM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on September 12, 2011, 09:22:01 PM
The question about amalgamations is a simple enough one. Is the GAA about getting all players from your local area involved in playing in competition at a suitable level or is it about getting "elite" teams of players to challenge for the top honours in the game.

And that my friends is the crux of the matter....

It's not a cut and dry matter in my eyes. I would be fairly confident some lads from my own club who have quit the game would still be playing now or would have had prolonged careers had they been part of a team who had competed at Division One Minor championship level.
Drumalee competed at that level for 3 years on their own in 2002, 2003 and 2004 winning a Division One Minor League once. The nucleus of them teams formed the back bone of our 2 Intermediate Championship winning teams and our Senior team at the moment.
Killeshandra, Redhills, Butlersbridge, Arva, Shercock to name a few, are clubs who IMO have benefitted greatly from having their best underage players playing Division One football. The first three have all won Junior Championships in the last 6 years and the first two are playing Division One football.

I dont agree with that if players are good enough playing divison 1 or 2 championship isnt going to make or break them.

The facts don't lie Tommy. Clubs who consistently compete at Division One underage consistently compete at Division One at Senior level. Cavan Gaels, Kingscourt, Castlerahan.
Mullahoran and Gowna have been struggling at underage for a number of years and the future doesn't look good for them.
Redhills and Killeshandra had been struggling for years until they decided to amalgamate with other clubs. Now they are both in Division One.

So you honestly think that a club who is playing in Divsion 1 championship has a better chance of holding onto players than one who is in division 2?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on September 13, 2011, 11:00:44 AM
Quote from: tommysmith on September 13, 2011, 10:29:29 AM
Quote from: boojangles on September 13, 2011, 10:14:11 AM
Quote from: tommysmith on September 13, 2011, 09:32:43 AM
Quote from: boojangles on September 13, 2011, 09:14:33 AM
Quote from: Celt_Man on September 13, 2011, 01:36:19 AM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on September 12, 2011, 09:22:01 PM
The question about amalgamations is a simple enough one. Is the GAA about getting all players from your local area involved in playing in competition at a suitable level or is it about getting "elite" teams of players to challenge for the top honours in the game.

And that my friends is the crux of the matter....

It's not a cut and dry matter in my eyes. I would be fairly confident some lads from my own club who have quit the game would still be playing now or would have had prolonged careers had they been part of a team who had competed at Division One Minor championship level.
Drumalee competed at that level for 3 years on their own in 2002, 2003 and 2004 winning a Division One Minor League once. The nucleus of them teams formed the back bone of our 2 Intermediate Championship winning teams and our Senior team at the moment.
Killeshandra, Redhills, Butlersbridge, Arva, Shercock to name a few, are clubs who IMO have benefitted greatly from having their best underage players playing Division One football. The first three have all won Junior Championships in the last 6 years and the first two are playing Division One football.

I dont agree with that if players are good enough playing divison 1 or 2 championship isnt going to make or break them.

The facts don't lie Tommy. Clubs who consistently compete at Division One underage consistently compete at Division One at Senior level. Cavan Gaels, Kingscourt, Castlerahan.
Mullahoran and Gowna have been struggling at underage for a number of years and the future doesn't look good for them.
Redhills and Killeshandra had been struggling for years until they decided to amalgamate with other clubs. Now they are both in Division One.

So you honestly think that a club who is playing in Divsion 1 championship has a better chance of holding onto players than one who is in division 2?

Bit of a misunderstanding I think?
I was talking about clubs being successful due to them playing at a higher grade of football at underage.
No, Im not saying that a club playing Division 1 has a better chance of holding on to players.
If a club is successful at Divison 2 or 3 then that group has a better chance of staying together than if the same group were losing at Division 1.
However, speaking about my own club, my opinion is that if we had amalgamated at Minor level in the last few years we probably would have held on to a few more footballers.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on September 13, 2011, 11:09:48 AM
Yeah booj this comment confused me.

QuoteI would be fairly confident some lads from my own club who have quit the game would still be playing now or would have had prolonged careers had they been part of a team who had competed at Division One Minor championship level.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: CC1 on September 13, 2011, 02:11:19 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on September 12, 2011, 11:58:33 PM
Cavan Gaels( amalgamation of Cavan Harps and Cavan Slashers)
O'Raghallaigh Gaels (Kingscourt and Sherock)
Eire Og Celtic(C'hill and Goonies)
I reckon all amalgamations should be disqualified and Ballyhaise(with 10 Under 16's on the team), being the only registered club team left in the last 4 should  therefore be awarded the championship.Whose with me???
Precisely BHM  ;D

Maybe if everybody saved the energy they've wasted on whinging about the O'RG amalgamation a team might have put up a better challenge to them.  ;)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Ollie on September 13, 2011, 03:47:50 PM
Quote from: CC1 on September 13, 2011, 02:11:19 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on September 12, 2011, 11:58:33 PM
Cavan Gaels( amalgamation of Cavan Harps and Cavan Slashers)
O'Raghallaigh Gaels (Kingscourt and Sherock)
Eire Og Celtic(C'hill and Goonies)
I reckon all amalgamations should be disqualified and Ballyhaise(with 10 Under 16's on the team), being the only registered club team left in the last 4 should  therefore be awarded the championship.Whose with me???
Precisely BHM  ;D

Maybe if everybody saved the energy they've wasted on whinging about the O'RG amalgamation a team might have put up a better challenge to them.  ;)

Do you think O'Raghallaigh Gaels will be back in the final next year?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: CC1 on September 13, 2011, 04:36:18 PM
Quote from: Ollie on September 13, 2011, 03:47:50 PM
Quote from: CC1 on September 13, 2011, 02:11:19 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on September 12, 2011, 11:58:33 PM
Cavan Gaels( amalgamation of Cavan Harps and Cavan Slashers)
O'Raghallaigh Gaels (Kingscourt and Sherock)
Eire Og Celtic(C'hill and Goonies)
I reckon all amalgamations should be disqualified and Ballyhaise(with 10 Under 16's on the team), being the only registered club team left in the last 4 should  therefore be awarded the championship.Whose with me???
Precisely BHM  ;D

Maybe if everybody saved the energy they've wasted on whinging about the O'RG amalgamation a team might have put up a better challenge to them.  ;)

Do you think O'Raghallaigh Gaels will be back in the final next year?
I don't know to be honest, its a whole year away. I suppose it will depend on how they are playing and how other teams play against them. In a nutshell it is 15 vs 15 and anything can happen, some lads can play well, others might not in the heat of the championship. You can be the most super di-dooper team in the world and not perform on the day or you can be complete no hopers and surprise everybody by making it to the final.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Ollie on September 13, 2011, 04:44:45 PM
Quote from: CC1 on September 13, 2011, 04:36:18 PM
Quote from: Ollie on September 13, 2011, 03:47:50 PM
Quote from: CC1 on September 13, 2011, 02:11:19 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on September 12, 2011, 11:58:33 PM
Cavan Gaels( amalgamation of Cavan Harps and Cavan Slashers)
O'Raghallaigh Gaels (Kingscourt and Sherock)
Eire Og Celtic(C'hill and Goonies)
I reckon all amalgamations should be disqualified and Ballyhaise(with 10 Under 16's on the team), being the only registered club team left in the last 4 should  therefore be awarded the championship.Whose with me???
Precisely BHM  ;D

Maybe if everybody saved the energy they've wasted on whinging about the O'RG amalgamation a team might have put up a better challenge to them.  ;)

Do you think O'Raghallaigh Gaels will be back in the final next year?
I don't know to be honest, its a whole year away. I suppose it will depend on how they are playing and how other teams play against them. In a nutshell it is 15 vs 15 and anything can happen, some lads can play well, others might not in the heat of the championship. You can be the most super di-dooper team in the world and not perform on the day or you can be complete no hopers and surprise everybody by making it to the final.

Would you be in favour of retaining this amalgamation at under 21 and possibly senior level in years to come?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: CC1 on September 13, 2011, 04:54:39 PM
Quote from: Ollie on September 13, 2011, 04:44:45 PM
Quote from: CC1 on September 13, 2011, 04:36:18 PM
Quote from: Ollie on September 13, 2011, 03:47:50 PM
Quote from: CC1 on September 13, 2011, 02:11:19 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on September 12, 2011, 11:58:33 PM
Cavan Gaels( amalgamation of Cavan Harps and Cavan Slashers)
O'Raghallaigh Gaels (Kingscourt and Sherock)
Eire Og Celtic(C'hill and Goonies)
I reckon all amalgamations should be disqualified and Ballyhaise(with 10 Under 16's on the team), being the only registered club team left in the last 4 should  therefore be awarded the championship.Whose with me???
Precisely BHM  ;D

Maybe if everybody saved the energy they've wasted on whinging about the O'RG amalgamation a team might have put up a better challenge to them.  ;)

Do you think O'Raghallaigh Gaels will be back in the final next year?
I don't know to be honest, its a whole year away. I suppose it will depend on how they are playing and how other teams play against them. In a nutshell it is 15 vs 15 and anything can happen, some lads can play well, others might not in the heat of the championship. You can be the most super di-dooper team in the world and not perform on the day or you can be complete no hopers and surprise everybody by making it to the final.

Would you be in favour of retaining this amalgamation at under 21 and possibly senior level in years to come?
Absolutely, if one or both of us don't have enough players to compete in a competition then I wouldn't have a problem with it at all. We have a long history of amalgamating with Kingscourt so I can't see how that view would change in this part of the country unless there is a major disagreement between the two clubs.

Would you have a problem with it?

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Ollie on September 14, 2011, 01:32:15 AM
Quote from: CC1 on September 13, 2011, 04:54:39 PM
Quote from: Ollie on September 13, 2011, 04:44:45 PM
Quote from: CC1 on September 13, 2011, 04:36:18 PM
Quote from: Ollie on September 13, 2011, 03:47:50 PM
Quote from: CC1 on September 13, 2011, 02:11:19 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on September 12, 2011, 11:58:33 PM
Cavan Gaels( amalgamation of Cavan Harps and Cavan Slashers)
O'Raghallaigh Gaels (Kingscourt and Sherock)
Eire Og Celtic(C'hill and Goonies)
I reckon all amalgamations should be disqualified and Ballyhaise(with 10 Under 16's on the team), being the only registered club team left in the last 4 should  therefore be awarded the championship.Whose with me???
Precisely BHM  ;D

Maybe if everybody saved the energy they've wasted on whinging about the O'RG amalgamation a team might have put up a better challenge to them.  ;)

Do you think O'Raghallaigh Gaels will be back in the final next year?
I don't know to be honest, its a whole year away. I suppose it will depend on how they are playing and how other teams play against them. In a nutshell it is 15 vs 15 and anything can happen, some lads can play well, others might not in the heat of the championship. You can be the most super di-dooper team in the world and not perform on the day or you can be complete no hopers and surprise everybody by making it to the final.

Would you be in favour of retaining this amalgamation at under 21 and possibly senior level in years to come?
Absolutely, if one or both of us don't have enough players to compete in a competition then I wouldn't have a problem with it at all. We have a long history of amalgamating with Kingscourt so I can't see how that view would change in this part of the country unless there is a major disagreement between the two clubs.

Would you have a problem with it?

I wouldn't have a problem with it as long as it was benefiting the clubs involved and enhancing the league or championship. Sometimes amalgamations don't work out as hoped as we witnessed in the championship two years ago. I think problems can arise between the clubs amalgamating for an array of reasons. Also I'm told players sometimes don't have the same commitment to the amalgamation as they do to their club.

Amalgamations seem to work better at underage level than at senior level. I think you would have to give an amalgamating team 2-3 years to gel together and start playing as a unit before expecting any success out of it. Usually in Cavan if things don't work out after year one there scraped.

I maybe wrong on this but in Kerry don't they run A County Championship which is made up off Amalgamations and a club championship within the same year.. possible idea for the future.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on September 14, 2011, 05:10:13 PM
Quote from: Ollie on September 14, 2011, 01:32:15 AM
I maybe wrong on this but in Kerry don't they run A County Championship which is made up off Amalgamations and a club championship within the same year.. possible idea for the future.

Na it's a normal club championship as far as I know but contains Divisional Sides, think they could have been a club championship one year to determine who would represent Kerry in Munster Club Championship because they was only Divisional teams left at Quarter Final stage

Great and comprehensive interview with John Morrison in the Celt this week
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on September 15, 2011, 09:54:21 AM
Its great to see Cavan football being discussed on the main board and not being afraid to look at whats being said.

It looks like we've got a "quality" man although people can't decide on what his quality is.  Hope the players/CB buy into it (even if it is wacky) because nothing else that we've done recently has worked.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on September 15, 2011, 10:49:29 AM
I wouldnt say Cavan football is being discussed its more a case of how much a fruit cake this fellow is or isnt.

It will be interesting now to see what happens in the months ahead!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dougal on September 17, 2011, 01:39:05 PM
the div 1 league could be very interesting today.any 2 of lacken killeshandra cucus drumlane and maybe even killygary can go down i think.is there any chance of cucus and killygary playing for a draw so both of them are safe?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on September 17, 2011, 03:47:11 PM
A draw would be no good for either team dougal.. they are both on 10 pts, drumlane are on 8 and killeshandra on 8. Lacken have castlerahan at home, castlerahan will be playing a weak team saving some of the keys players ahead of the championship final.. Lacken and Lavey are both on 11 points. Killeshandra have drumlane today, thats a game where whoever wins hope's for the best and get luck with other results..
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on September 17, 2011, 03:48:35 PM
drumlane on 9pts i meant..
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Swadman on September 17, 2011, 04:33:46 PM
Quote from: Swadman on July 19, 2011, 07:46:00 PM
Quote...starting to see a few footballers that are getting used to the idea of beating Armagh, Tyrone etc. You'd like to think this might pay off at senior level sometime soon. Anyway great year so far hope it continues a bit longer.

Whats the odds on a third Cavan team playing in an All Ireland final in Croke Park in the one year????? (I had to get that in)

Well I thought it could be the Minors but it's going to be the Ladies. Go on girls, I'll be there to see ya. 3rd time lucky I hope.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on September 18, 2011, 01:25:44 PM
Was the Denn Drumalee game played yesterday in the Div 2 League?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on September 18, 2011, 01:50:21 PM
Results from final round of Division One League games...

Gowna  1-7 1-11 Redhills  Gowna   
Killeshandra  2-6 1-8 Drumlane  Killeshandra   
Killygarry  1-9 1-9 Cuchullains  Athletic Grounds-Crubany   
Kingscourt  5-7 0-11 Cavan Gaels  Kingscourt   
Lacken  1-22 0-5 Castlerahan  Lacken   
Lavey  1-12 0-12 Belturbet  Lavey   
Mullahoran  3-18 1-8 Ballyhaise  Mullahoran   
Ramor United  1-7 2-9 Ballinagh  Ramor United

Top 4:
Redhills  15 10 2 3 221 203 18 23
Ballinagh  15 10 4 1 240 199 41 21
Mullahoran  15 10 5 0 189 147 42 20
Kingscourt  15 9 5 1 237 182 55 19
Cavan Gaels  15 9 5 1 259 205 54 19

Kingscourt sneak into sem-finals by one point score difference
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on September 18, 2011, 02:34:31 PM
Quote from: Celt_Man on September 18, 2011, 01:25:44 PM
Was the Denn Drumalee game played yesterday in the Div 2 League?

No. Denn notified the CB that they could not fulfill both fixtures. They had looked to change the game but it didnt suit us. By right we should get the points but I have a feeling that won't happen.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on September 18, 2011, 02:42:18 PM
Quote from: boojangles on September 18, 2011, 02:34:31 PM
Quote from: Celt_Man on September 18, 2011, 01:25:44 PM
Was the Denn Drumalee game played yesterday in the Div 2 League?

No. Denn notified the CB that they could not fulfill both fixtures. They had looked to change the game but it didnt suit us. By right we should get the points but I have a feeling that won't happen.

Such a long drawn affair.... Your game could/should have been played before this weekend and the last round of game could have been played yesterday...  Instead of keeping it for another bloody month
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on September 18, 2011, 03:08:35 PM
Quote from: Celt_Man on September 18, 2011, 02:42:18 PM
Quote from: boojangles on September 18, 2011, 02:34:31 PM
Quote from: Celt_Man on September 18, 2011, 01:25:44 PM
Was the Denn Drumalee game played yesterday in the Div 2 League?

No. Denn notified the CB that they could not fulfill both fixtures. They had looked to change the game but it didnt suit us. By right we should get the points but I have a feeling that won't happen.

Such a long drawn affair.... Your game could/should have been played before this weekend and the last round of game could have been played yesterday...  Instead of keeping it for another bloody month

I think the initial fixture was postponed because of the Fleadh. I agree it's frustrating for other clubs waiting. Have Cootehill 1 or 2 games left?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on September 18, 2011, 03:11:59 PM
Only one round of fixtures left in Division 2 - bar your game with Denn....  Dragging out something desperate like when you think about the rush that was on to play league games earlier in the year - making clubs play without county players etc...
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on September 18, 2011, 03:25:14 PM
Quote from: Celt_Man on September 18, 2011, 03:11:59 PM
Only one round of fixtures left in Division 2 - bar your game with Denn....  Dragging out something desperate like when you think about the rush that was on to play league games earlier in the year - making clubs play without county players etc...

It will be interesting to see the stance the CB take tomorrow night. If they award us the points (for Denn not fulfilling the fixture) we are promoted. Then our last game against Swad is irrelevant to us but not to them. Interesting.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Swadman on September 19, 2011, 10:01:22 PM
After Drumalee play Denn its Round 15 and the battle for top 4.

Drumalee v Swanlinbar
Drumgoon v Denn
Drung v Crosserlough
Kill v Cornafean
Killinkere v Cootehill
Knockbride v Cavan Gaels
Shannon Gaels v Butlersbridge
Shercock v Bailieborough

Drumalee and Drumgoon are top 2 certs. Swad can only get to 20 as can Cavan Gaels but CG have a better score diff. All irrelevant if both Crosserlough and Cootehill win as they will be 3 & 4.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: PhilsJemmysField on September 20, 2011, 10:20:15 AM
There will b no battle n Killinkere Celt Man, I would say at this stage will b the minor team u will see
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: PhilsJemmysField on September 20, 2011, 10:24:29 AM
Anybody hear what happened n the CCC hearing on Gowna and Lacken
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on September 20, 2011, 10:56:08 AM
Quote from: Swadman on September 19, 2011, 10:01:22 PM
After Drumalee play Denn its Round 15 and the battle for top 4.

Drumalee v Swanlinbar
Drumgoon v Denn
Drung v Crosserlough
Kill v Cornafean
Killinkere v Cootehill
Knockbride v Cavan Gaels
Shannon Gaels v Butlersbridge
Shercock v Bailieborough

Drumalee and Drumgoon are top 2 certs. Swad can only get to 20 as can Cavan Gaels but CG have a better score diff. All irrelevant if both Crosserlough and Cootehill win as they will be 3 & 4.

Definitely not Swadman. Cootehill and Crosserlough can both still get promoted. They can still catch Drumgoon anyway no matter what happens.

Quote from: PhilsJemmysField on September 20, 2011, 10:24:29 AM
Anybody hear what happened n the CCC hearing on Gowna and Lacken

Hearsay Phil but I believe that Shanaghy and Niall Mc Kiernan both got 8 weeks. If thats the case Shanaghy can feel very hard done by for what in truth was a high rugby tackle.
I think Gowna had 2 suspended also. Gearoid Reilly may have been one of them.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: PhilsJemmysField on September 20, 2011, 12:15:49 PM
Well Boo congratulations just looked at the table on Cavan Gaa website and you got the points versus Denn. So looks like Div 2  will now end up in the Supreme Court at the Ulster council if Denn want t take it further
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on September 20, 2011, 04:17:23 PM
Quote from: PhilsJemmysField on September 20, 2011, 10:20:15 AM
There will b no battle n Killinkere Celt Man, I would say at this stage will b the minor team u will see

I'm still not putting any money on us...
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on September 20, 2011, 05:16:57 PM
Quote from: PhilsJemmysField on September 20, 2011, 12:15:49 PM
Well Boo congratulations just looked at the table on Cavan Gaa website and you got the points versus Denn. So looks like Div 2  will now end up in the Supreme Court at the Ulster council if Denn want t take it further

Heard that earlier Phil. Denn have 3 days to appeal. Just hoping it doesn't end up in the European Court of Human Rights.  :P
Not the best way to seal promotion but we should have had it wrapped up in the last league game only for a scandalous refereeing decision denied us the 2 points.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on September 20, 2011, 06:35:49 PM
Quote from: boojangles on September 20, 2011, 05:16:57 PM
Quote from: PhilsJemmysField on September 20, 2011, 12:15:49 PM
Well Boo congratulations just looked at the table on Cavan Gaa website and you got the points versus Denn. So looks like Div 2  will now end up in the Supreme Court at the Ulster council if Denn want t take it further

Heard that earlier Phil. Denn have 3 days to appeal. Just hoping it doesn't end up in the European Court of Human Rights.  :P
Not the best way to seal promotion but we should have had it wrapped up in the last league game only for a scandalous refereeing decision denied us the 2 points.

Ahh sure these things even themselves out over a season sure didn't you get away with murder against us!!  ;D

All joking aside well done to Drumalee - got off to a suspect start if memory serves but carried on regardless
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on September 20, 2011, 09:14:48 PM
Quote from: Celt_Man on September 20, 2011, 06:35:49 PM
Quote from: boojangles on September 20, 2011, 05:16:57 PM
Quote from: PhilsJemmysField on September 20, 2011, 12:15:49 PM
Well Boo congratulations just looked at the table on Cavan Gaa website and you got the points versus Denn. So looks like Div 2  will now end up in the Supreme Court at the Ulster council if Denn want t take it further

Heard that earlier Phil. Denn have 3 days to appeal. Just hoping it doesn't end up in the European Court of Human Rights.  :P
Not the best way to seal promotion but we should have had it wrapped up in the last league game only for a scandalous refereeing decision denied us the 2 points.

Ahh sure these things even themselves out over a season sure didn't you get away with murder against us!!  ;D

All joking aside well done to Drumalee - got off to a suspect start if memory serves but carried on regardless

Haha wouldn't quite call it murder now. Maybe evening time robbery!  ;D

Ye we lost to Drung and Shannon Gaels early but have only dropped 1 point since that.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on September 21, 2011, 06:53:39 PM
Any thoughts on what players should be involved with the county panel for next season? They are suppose to be announcing a training panel by the end of this month.. I saw Enda Gaffney twice this year and he could be worth a look he might not have the interest though, David Finnegan has had a good year with ballinagh his last game against the gaels wasn't of his best but he was very good till then as was Niall Reilly, Oisin and Enda o Connell have been excellent all year with castlerahan but like gaffney they might not have the interest.. They opted out of the u21s this year after a few games in the hastings cup. Mark Lynch from crosserlough has had a solid year aswell.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on September 23, 2011, 07:15:06 PM
Good luck to the Cavan ladies in their ai intermediate final. Hopefully they bring back the title. Think tg4 are showing it live.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: drici on September 23, 2011, 07:22:08 PM
Right, learn all these names for Sunday at 2-00pm.

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Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on September 23, 2011, 07:28:14 PM
Drici I think you are a closet Cavan fan.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on September 23, 2011, 10:17:40 PM
Surprised that Grainne Smith didn't get starting given her fantastic performance when she came on against Leitrim. Her accurate passing really made a difference that day. Dana Clerkin is a great sub to come on and Cavan's bench as a whole is very strong.
Roisin O'Keefe really needs to make her chances count, constantly gets herself in fantastic positions and then fluffs her chances but if she's on form she can be a real match winner. She'll be keen to prove herself after a poor Semi.
Bronagh Sheridan is a very strong player for this level and will thrive in the open spaces of Croker.
Aisling Doonan is just a fantastic player, I've watched her play since U-14 and she really is a special talent and a wonderful leader.

I know nothing of Westmeath but they beat Cavan earlier in the group stages I believe so are obviously no slouches. Best of luck to Adrian and the girls. Hopefully there'll be a decent crowd there, the most of West Cavan is going from what I hear.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on September 23, 2011, 10:20:15 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on September 21, 2011, 06:53:39 PM
Any thoughts on what players should be involved with the county panel for next season? They are suppose to be announcing a training panel by the end of this month.. I saw Enda Gaffney twice this year and he could be worth a look he might not have the interest though, David Finnegan has had a good year with ballinagh his last game against the gaels wasn't of his best but he was very good till then as was Niall Reilly, Oisin and Enda o Connell have been excellent all year with castlerahan but like gaffney they might not have the interest.. They opted out of the u21s this year after a few games in the hastings cup. Mark Lynch from crosserlough has had a solid year aswell.

Them 2 O Connells are talented boys.
David Finnegan I believe needs an operation.
Other lads who have stood out for me:

Conor Smith (Cuchulainns) Not an original choice but bags of talent if handled right.
Adrian Taite (Cuchulainns)
Barry Mc Kiernan (Crosserlough)
Colin Lynch (Crosserlough) Amazed he hasn't been called in before. IMO one of the toughest defenders around. Does his job with minimum fuss.
Gearoid Collins( Cavan Gaels) Took a break from football, travelling and all that and had a bad time with injuries but a super competitor and athlete and he seems to be back in form. Eamon Coleman had him on the Senior panel in 2005.
Enda Mc Hugh( Shannon Gaels) Don't think he is interested but a fine footballer. Slightly lazy but a fine fielder of the ball and very strong. Plays midfield usually but can play inside also.

Above all, whoever Val and Co. pick, the number one requirement should be committed TEAM players. We will win nothing with individuals as Dublin showed on Sunday. If lads aren't willing to do everything that is asked of them then get rid of them. The management should know who is worth holding onto by Xmas. Not like last year where lads turned up to trainings around Xmas half cut and a blind eye turned to it. Some didn't even turn up and they weren't dropped. Zero tolerance from Day One hopefully.
But I'm sure Val doesn't need to be told that........

Best of Luck to the Ladies on Sunday.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on September 23, 2011, 10:24:48 PM
Quote from: boojangles on September 23, 2011, 10:20:15 PM


Above all, whoever Val and Co. pick, the number one requirement should be committed TEAM players. We will win nothing with individuals as Dublin showed on Sunday. If lads aren't willing to do everything that is asked of them then get rid of them. The management should know who is worth holding onto by Xmas. Not like last year where lads turned up to trainings around Xmas half cut and a blind eye turned to it. Some didn't even turn up and they weren't dropped. Zero tolerance from Day One hopefully.
But I'm sure Val doesn't need to be told that........

Best of Luck to the Ladies on Sunday.

Sadly, I dont believe it will be any different than any other year but Morrison wont take that so expect lots of players dropped and walk outs.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BigMac on September 23, 2011, 11:39:56 PM
Does anyone know why 3 of the Cavan ladies play for Leitrim clubs? If they are from Leitrim and play club football there, shouldn't they have to play for Leitrim? Maybe they are from Cavan but there are no clubs beside them or something? Can anybody shed some light?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on September 24, 2011, 11:33:33 AM
Bigmac as far as I know players like McGlade, from Arva, live in Cavan but play for Leitrim clubs because they are on the border and they have some ties with the Leitrim Club (strong family connections to Aughawillan in this case). But they are all living in Cavan.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on September 24, 2011, 01:04:52 PM
There is no Ladies senior team in Arva this year so they all moved to separate clubs.  Think Donna ENglish is playing with Killeshandra, Grainne McGlade with Aughawillan and a good few others with Gowna
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on September 24, 2011, 08:37:22 PM
Quote from: BigMac on September 23, 2011, 11:39:56 PM
Does anyone know why 3 of the Cavan ladies play for Leitrim clubs? If they are from Leitrim and play club football there, shouldn't they have to play for Leitrim? Maybe they are from Cavan but there are no clubs beside them or something? Can anybody shed some light?

as people have said they are from Cavan.  Just think of Gareth Smith.

best of luck to the Cavan Team tomorrow and the 2 Cavan girls on the New York team.  And go Monaghan.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on September 25, 2011, 07:37:02 PM
Great comeback by the ladies today. Some of the point kicking by doonan were magnificent. The one she got from the sideline was like something ciaran McDonald would have done. I reckon they will win the replay
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on September 25, 2011, 08:02:54 PM
The girls did well to come back in the end but will kick themselves for letting Westmeath back into the game. Grainne Smith should have been the first Sub to appear. I thought Grainne McGlade played very well at fullback.
Aisling Doonan, well you run out of superlatives. The sideline showed just how skillful she is and to get the ball in the final minute, a point down, turn her player inside out, draw the foul and kick a tricky free to level it up.. Real nerve.

We'll have a good chance in the replay but will have to try not to leave so much space in our own half. Westmeath are defensive, we'll have to draw out their deep lying half forwards. 
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on September 25, 2011, 08:19:08 PM
Quote from: Westside on September 25, 2011, 08:02:54 PM
The girls did well to come back in the end but will kick themselves for letting Westmeath back into the game. Grainne Smith should have been the first Sub to appear. I thought Grainne McGlade played very well at fullback.
Aisling Doonan, well you run out of superlatives. The sideline showed just how skillful she is and to get the ball in the final minute, a point down, turn her player inside out, draw the foul and kick a tricky free to level it up.. Real nerve.

We'll have a good chance in the replay but will have to try not to leave so much space in our own half. Westmeath are defensive, we'll have to draw out their deep lying half forwards.

Indeed, she has more shooting skill than many of our senior mens team. Great work ethic about the team too but they seemed to struggle in the half backs with the pace of 1 or 2 of the Westmeath players, especially their No 10 and No 15.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on September 25, 2011, 08:55:27 PM
Her shooting today wasn't perfect, she kicked maybe 3 wides along with her 6 points but she is always brilliant at making the space to shoot and willing to take on shots that most others at that level wouldn't. She can come out to the half forward line and cut sides open with her distribution too as she did on a few occasions today.
Their work ethic was impressive, at one point at the beginning of the second half the forwards pinned Westmeath down in their own half for maybe 2 minutes. I agree we lack some pace in the half backs and that told today when the game opened up for Westmeath.

Why oh why are every Cavan team showing improvement and our Senior's are, if anything, regressing.

On another note, the number 15 for Monaghan was a beaut...
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on September 25, 2011, 09:35:40 PM
Quote from: Westside on September 25, 2011, 08:55:27 PM
On another note, the number 15 for Monaghan was a beaut...

Only starting college this September I'm told...
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: beer baron on September 25, 2011, 09:52:57 PM
Quote from: Celt_Man on September 25, 2011, 09:35:40 PM
Quote from: Westside on September 25, 2011, 08:55:27 PM
On another note, the number 15 for Monaghan was a beaut...

Only starting college this September I'm told...

I can imagine the smile on your face when you heard that Celtman!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on September 25, 2011, 10:15:44 PM
Quote from: Celt_Man on September 25, 2011, 09:35:40 PM
Quote from: Westside on September 25, 2011, 08:55:27 PM
On another note, the number 15 for Monaghan was a beaut...

Only starting college this September I'm told...

Any chance you know where?...
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on September 25, 2011, 10:21:32 PM
Quote from: beer baron on September 25, 2011, 09:52:57 PM
Quote from: Celt_Man on September 25, 2011, 09:35:40 PM
Quote from: Westside on September 25, 2011, 08:55:27 PM
On another note, the number 15 for Monaghan was a beaut...

Only starting college this September I'm told...

I can imagine the smile on your face when you heard that Celtman!

Now now keep it PG rated Baron

Quote from: Westside on September 25, 2011, 10:15:44 PM
Quote from: Celt_Man on September 25, 2011, 09:35:40 PM
Quote from: Westside on September 25, 2011, 08:55:27 PM
On another note, the number 15 for Monaghan was a beaut...

Only starting college this September I'm told...

Any chance you know where?...

No didn't get that much detail!!!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up-again on September 26, 2011, 01:39:20 PM
Quote from: Celt_Man on September 25, 2011, 09:35:40 PM
Quote from: Westside on September 25, 2011, 08:55:27 PM
On another note, the number 15 for Monaghan was a beaut...

Only starting college this September I'm told...

Tell me she is Dublin based ;D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on September 26, 2011, 06:21:46 PM
You lot are some shower of dirtbags.
I can just see Celt Man and Put it up again prowling the Big Tree and Quinns in search of her right now  :D

PS
This thread is worthless without pics!!!!!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on September 26, 2011, 06:31:48 PM
Hold a second! I was merely informing a fellow poster of the relative age of the subject of one of his posts - I certainly wasn't advocating prowling after her....
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on September 26, 2011, 06:44:10 PM
Quote from: Celt_Man on September 26, 2011, 06:31:48 PM
Hold a second! I was merely informing a fellow poster of the relative age of the subject of one of his posts - I certainly wasn't advocating prowling after her....

I just did a bit of detective work to find out what she looks like.
She is fairly savage,i wouldnt blame ya,if you did  :P
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on September 26, 2011, 06:49:44 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on September 26, 2011, 06:44:10 PM
Quote from: Celt_Man on September 26, 2011, 06:31:48 PM
Hold a second! I was merely informing a fellow poster of the relative age of the subject of one of his posts - I certainly wasn't advocating prowling after her....

I just did a bit of detective work to find out what she looks like.
She is fairly savage,i wouldnt blame ya,if you did  :P

That's the boy!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on September 26, 2011, 06:53:50 PM
I believe as the first Cavan Forumite to point out her beauty if there is any creeping to be done around Drumcondra I should be the first to do it.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mrdeeds on September 26, 2011, 07:06:10 PM
http://vimeo.com/29539527
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Swadman on September 26, 2011, 07:22:15 PM
Quote from: Westside on September 26, 2011, 06:53:50 PM
I believe as the first Cavan Forumite to point out her beauty if there is any creeping to be done around Drumcondra I should be the first to do it.
The Ladies could teach ye a thing or two. Still taking football rules here:
1. The pick up
A player may pick the ball off the ground with the toe or with one or both hands provided she is in a standing position. benefits are: Ref can fully concentrate on legal/illegal tackle. No moans about rolling balls, pick ball, handling on the ground, etc.
2. The Clock
At all county matches the job of timekeeping is out of the referees hands.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on September 26, 2011, 08:00:32 PM
Quote from: Westside on September 26, 2011, 06:53:50 PM
I believe as the first Cavan Forumite to point out her beauty if there is any creeping to be done around Drumcondra I should be the first to do it.

Come on lads get a picture up.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on September 26, 2011, 08:06:41 PM
Ah yas are some creeps.....

Whats her name? Was at d game and a blonde Corner forward did stand out but cudnt get a close up like you's pervs sitting at home on d couch :D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on September 26, 2011, 08:55:53 PM
(http://www.hoganstand.com/Common/NewGallery/1%20monaghan%20ladies%20w.jpg)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on September 26, 2011, 09:03:41 PM
The half forward for Monaghan Mcnally n was a fine thing aswell  ;) num 10
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on September 26, 2011, 09:12:15 PM
They're not pieces of meat lads.. I admired her courage and her never say die attitude. (Just in case she's reading..)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4sam on September 26, 2011, 09:30:33 PM
The boys in Truagh, where she comes from, call her 'The Future'!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on September 26, 2011, 10:10:39 PM
This thread is about gaa lads, not womens good looks. That lassie probably trained harder than any of Ye ever did to get to her ai final so maybe as gaa yolk Ye should give her a bit of respect instead. Now if you want to slag her off for being from monaghan then that's different.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: beer baron on September 26, 2011, 10:27:12 PM
Worst of all i've been informed she's got a man!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on September 26, 2011, 11:11:57 PM
Quote from: beer baron on September 26, 2011, 10:27:12 PM
Worst of all i've been informed she's got a man!

How do you find out this information  :D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on September 26, 2011, 11:29:32 PM
Would she be interested in having a second one?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: beer baron on September 26, 2011, 11:57:32 PM
I made the  mistake of asking a friend of mine from round her direction did she know her to which the response was 'yeah she's my brothers girlfriend you creep'  :D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on September 27, 2011, 12:22:35 AM
Quote from: beer baron on September 26, 2011, 11:57:32 PM
I made the  mistake of asking a friend of mine from round her direction did she know her to which the response was 'yeah she's my brothers girlfriend you creep'  :D

:D  :D
At least she will know that you're interested anyway!!!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dougal on September 27, 2011, 08:45:57 AM
Quote from: tommysmith on September 26, 2011, 11:11:57 PM
Quote from: beer baron on September 26, 2011, 10:27:12 PM
Worst of all i've been informed she's got a man!

How do you find out this information  :D

jaysis,do none of yis know how to do a bit of stalking on facebook  ;)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: PhilsJemmysField on September 27, 2011, 11:47:08 AM
big new plan for Cavan Football announced last night apparently By Peter Quinn. Also Denn r taking county board to the High Court sounds like Drumalee and Denn have more Stags & Marriages and bar mitzvah then any other Parishes in the country s the basic source of the issue with the Fleadh thrown in as well.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on September 27, 2011, 12:53:44 PM
Quote from: PhilsJemmysField on September 27, 2011, 11:47:08 AM
big new plan for Cavan Football announced last night apparently By Peter Quinn. Also Denn r taking county board to the High Court sounds like Drumalee and Denn have more Stags & Marriages and bar mitzvah then any other Parishes in the country s the basic source of the issue with the Fleadh thrown in as well.

Any details on this big new plan or what it entails? Something drastic I hope, arranged marriages between our U21 and Ladies teams to breed a new breed of Cavan player perhaps?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: PhilsJemmysField on September 27, 2011, 06:35:01 PM
Apparently plan will be circulated when secretary gets it so will post at that point
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Swadman on September 27, 2011, 07:25:28 PM
Quote from: PhilsJemmysField on September 27, 2011, 06:35:01 PM
Apparently plan will be circulated when secretary gets it so will post at that point
Just to get the rumour mill going before any hard facts get in the way....I heard from a man that was at the meeting that they propose to cut the number of teams in Div1 to 10 and that there will be compulsory amalgamations for the senior championship the construction of which will be determined by the Co. Board also a clubs league position may determine its championship statue for the following year ( I shit you not)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on September 27, 2011, 07:34:32 PM
Yeah my club is having a players meeting on Friday to discuss the new layout structure for the league and championship for 2012.. Might improve the quality,be interesting if they considered like in Kerry and play a championship made up of amalgamations, if that wouldn't improve the quality of club football nothing would.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on September 27, 2011, 08:43:17 PM
I will judge this on how the clubs in West Cavan are forced to amalgamate.. Templeport Corlough and Kildallan together cannot be thrown into a senior amalgamation together.

Interesting ideas though, bring more intensity to the league.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on September 27, 2011, 08:53:37 PM
Quote from: Westside on September 27, 2011, 08:43:17 PM
I will judge this on how the clubs in West Cavan are forced to amalgamate.. Templeport Corlough and Kildallan together cannot be thrown into a senior amalgamation together.

Interesting ideas though, bring more intensity to the league.


Apologies in advance if my question is proved to be totally off the wall but why can the three named clubs not be amalgamated?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on September 27, 2011, 09:01:48 PM
Well they can, but they shouldn't. The three clubs together would not win the junior championship. Never mind compete with the likes of the Gaels. Taking hammerings would be counter productive to what's trying to be achieved. Perhaps I'm wrong and they want to throw everyone in at the deep end but I would not see it ending well.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on September 27, 2011, 09:41:20 PM
Quote from: Westside on September 27, 2011, 09:01:48 PM
Well they can, but they shouldn't. The three clubs together would not win the junior championship. Never mind compete with the likes of the Gaels. Taking hammerings would be counter productive to what's trying to be achieved. Perhaps I'm wrong and they want to throw everyone in at the deep end but I would not see it ending well.

Maybe West Cavan would extent to Killeshandra/Arvagh and Cornafean too?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on September 27, 2011, 10:03:19 PM
Shannon gaels/swad would be a strong pairing without having to go overboard with 4 or 5 teams..
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on September 27, 2011, 10:19:43 PM
I think the other West Cavan teams ie: Corlough, Templeport and Killdallon would be better in the intermediate championship. No disrespect to them teams but that would be more their level and would not have to join up with a 4th team like Drumlane or Killeshandra to play in the senior championship..

They could win a few games at intermediate and who knows what would happen after that..
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on September 27, 2011, 10:31:23 PM
Quote from: Swadman on September 27, 2011, 07:25:28 PM
Quote from: PhilsJemmysField on September 27, 2011, 06:35:01 PM
Apparently plan will be circulated when secretary gets it so will post at that point
Just to get the rumour mill going before any hard facts get in the way....I heard from a man that was at the meeting that they propose to cut the number of teams in Div1 to 10 and that there will be compulsory amalgamations for the senior championship the construction of which will be determined by the Co. Board also a clubs league position may determine its championship statue for the following year ( I shit you not)

Forcing teams to amalgamate... holy jaysus.... >:( >:( >:(
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on September 27, 2011, 11:15:40 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on September 27, 2011, 10:19:43 PM
I think the other West Cavan teams ie: Corlough, Templeport and Killdallon would be better in the intermediate championship. No disrespect to them teams but that would be more their level and would not have to join up with a 4th team like Drumlane or Killeshandra to play in the senior championship..

They could win a few games at intermediate and who knows what would happen after that..

Exactly. They all have decent underage teams and this is a great thing to keep these lads playing a high level of football. I think Templeport have something like 5 lads with the U16 county team so it would be great if they had a good standard of intermediate/senior championship to play in a few years time.

Also it needs to be done better than when it was done 3 odd years ago. Managers from outside the amalgamated clubs I feel would be a good start. Call interested players in and get them to commit. There was too much half heartedness the last time, players only showing for the games etc. Did other clubs have this problem with their amalgamations?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on September 27, 2011, 11:34:47 PM
I was part of killeshandra team when we amalgamated as st joes at senior level along time ago. It didn't work as players were forced to choose between training for the intermediate with killeshandra or with joes for senior. It was such a mess it was unreal. Mr king had joes and was trying to force lads to train with him and to hell with killeshandra (who got relegated to junior that year). What I know now is the only way it will work is if the junior and intermediate are run of before the senior. Likewise, if junior clubs want to join up to play intermediate then the junior championship would need to be run off first. No doubt it will all be done arseways....
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on September 27, 2011, 11:47:13 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on September 27, 2011, 11:34:47 PM
I was part of killeshandra team when we amalgamated as st joes at senior level along time ago. It didn't work as players were forced to choose between training for the intermediate with killeshandra or with joes for senior. It was such a mess it was unreal. Mr king had joes and was trying to force lads to train with him and to hell with killeshandra (who got relegated to junior that year). What I know now is the only way it will work is if the junior and intermediate are run of before the senior. Likewise, if junior clubs want to join up to play intermediate then the junior championship would need to be run off first. No doubt it will all be done arseways....

100% on the ball here Myles,that is the only way this could work.
Blackwater Gaels(Munnterconnacht,Maghera,Mountunugent) were playing for their junior clubs on a Friday and for the amalgamation on the Sunday 2 years ago when they entered a team, how could players be anywhere close to their peak??
The 3 competitions running concurrently will just not work.
Start the Intermediate and Junior in May
Start  the Senior at the end of July like it does right now.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on September 28, 2011, 10:00:15 AM
Amalgamated teams are not allowed in the Intermediate championships.

It's all well and good starting championships in May but what will happen when a dick of a county manager doesnt want the players lining out for the club.

For this to work clubs will have to be allowed their players for games and training and county must come second.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on September 28, 2011, 10:42:05 AM
Didn't know that Tommy, but they should be allowed in.. How do they expect 3 junior clubs to combine and compete at senior level when they struggle at junior level.. Doesn't make sense,. Maghera were part of that blackwater gaels combination last year when they were losing left right and centre at junior level and in division 3.. The county board would want to be realistic about what teams are entered.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on September 28, 2011, 11:23:51 AM
Quote from: rodney trotter on September 28, 2011, 10:42:05 AM
Didn't know that Tommy, but they should be allowed in.. How do they expect 3 junior clubs to combine and compete at senior level when they struggle at junior level.. Doesn't make sense,. Maghera were part of that blackwater gaels combination last year when they were losing left right and centre at junior level and in division 3.. The county board would want to be realistic about what teams are entered.

Im near sure that is the case anyways i could be wrong, cant see anything saying it cant happen in the rules but i think it came up somewhere before.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: PhilsJemmysField on September 28, 2011, 11:38:42 AM
Have now got the proposals but in bloody Power point an awful lot of stuff in it. The headlines are that championship will be Junior played first then Intermediate then Senior with "forced" amalgamations in Senior (they also seem to be forced for Minor n U21 4 championship too). There will be 4 leagues with 10 Teams Div1 Div2 Div 3 & Div 3a (being politically correct for Junior clubs obviously cannot say Div 4) Home & Away format will decide championship played in 2 . There will be holy war when this goes back to the clubs but a lot of good stuff but will be hard to get progressed.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Benny on September 28, 2011, 09:45:06 PM
I don't believe it, an absolutely extraordinary case of plagiarism....check out the discussions I posted on 29th June....just for the record I am not involved with the county board, in fact I don't even live in Ireland anymore....does Peter Quinn read the GAAboard???
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Breffni_Yank on September 29, 2011, 10:34:21 AM
Be very interested to see a proposal of these plans.

On a different note I heard a sneaky whisper the Senior Panel is back training.

Is it not way too early? Any word on who got the call or who didn't?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on September 29, 2011, 10:45:26 AM
Givney and Mickey Brennan both had it on their Twitter. Good move lads!! No word of any new additions yet though.

Far too early I think. It's a long long way until Championship time. Unless they're aiming to peak during the league which they might well be.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on September 29, 2011, 12:22:55 PM
Quote from: Westside on September 29, 2011, 10:45:26 AM
Givney and Mickey Brennan both had it on their Twitter. Good move lads!! No word of any new additions yet though.

Far too early I think. It's a long long way until Championship time. Unless they're aiming to peak during the league which they might well be.

Sounds like they are going to make an all out attack on the Mckenna Cup.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on September 29, 2011, 01:59:12 PM
Quote from: CC1 on September 29, 2011, 01:12:26 PM
At this moment in time lads, our seniors should be going for any silverware that they can get. I certainly wouldn't turn my nose up at a League or a McKenna cup.

Not turning my nose up at anything just wondering what the hell they are playing at by training in September with club championsip finals not even played yet.  If this continues there wont be too many fellas interested come christmas never mind next may/june.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on September 29, 2011, 03:01:15 PM
Perhaps the training now is just weights programs etc?? I seem to remember Val saying greater focus would be placed on players' conditioning this year.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on September 29, 2011, 06:53:19 PM
Maybe they want to get some training in before the November/December training ban for county teams.. Although i remember Cavan made a balls of that last year and it got national news :D I thought Mickey Brennan had quit with Cavan, he would still have something to offer the county team good player, got a raw deal in the championship games this year.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Breffni_Yank on September 29, 2011, 07:02:28 PM
Quote from: Westside on September 29, 2011, 03:01:15 PM
Perhaps the training now is just weights programs etc?? I seem to remember Val saying greater focus would be placed on players' conditioning this year.

Conditioning aside I would hope Morrison works on our basic skills and tackling.

Heard today Declan McKiernan, Raymond Galligan and Darragh Tighe were in the other night.

Anyone else see this - http://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-football/gaa-to-relax-winter-training-ban-2885655.html

Check out the second last line
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on October 02, 2011, 06:25:35 AM
I can't help but smile when I read about our new found national reputation for training too much when we shouldn't, when surely the tradition among our players has always been to not train enough when they should.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on October 02, 2011, 11:15:00 AM
Best of luck to all finalists today.
I'm going to have to go for Drumgoon and Cavan Gaels.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on October 03, 2011, 12:09:25 PM
Were Castlerahan as bad as it sounded on the radio yesterday.? Decided at the last minute not to bother heading to the games yesterday and it was the right choice it seems.. 16 points is some hammering in a county final. Hopefully Cavan Gaels will push on this year in Ulster and make some progress. I watched Glenswilly win the donegal final yesterday they look decent but i expect the Gaels to get through as its in Breffni and they would have more experience. Murphy was unreal for them, kicked 1-7 out of 1-8..Good to see Drumgoon win they have been knocking around the last few years without pushing on and winning.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: PhilsJemmysField on October 03, 2011, 05:23:53 PM
Castlerahan were very poor kicking long ball into one forward marked by 3 backs. At this stage hard to know how good the gaels are. The third goal was absolute class. Anybody know when first round vs Donegal champs is ?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Ollie on October 03, 2011, 05:45:04 PM
Quote from: PhilsJemmysField on October 03, 2011, 05:23:53 PM
Castlerahan were very poor kicking long ball into one forward marked by 3 backs. At this stage hard to know how good the gaels are. The third goal was absolute class. Anybody know when first round vs Donegal champs is ?

It's Sunday week in Breffni. It's the preliminary round with the winners taking on the Monaghan champions in the quarter final. Glenswilly will be a real test for the Gaels.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on October 04, 2011, 12:56:02 PM
Quote from: orangeman on October 02, 2011, 05:39:55 PM
Michael Murphy - scores 1-7 out of 1-8 to win the cup for his club. A man mountain who just could not be held and he literally won the game on his own.
Quote from: imtommygunn on October 03, 2011, 10:42:07 PM
Murphy got a full frontal charge by one of the st michael's boys (I think ill timed more than anything). The guy who did it fell flat on his back and Murphy scored a point. Boys were bouncing off him left - right and centre. Beast of a man who by the looks of it will need a system played against him to curb him. Be interesting to see how cavan gaels play him.

Glenswilly played well defensively - very much in numbers. They'll not be easy beat.

How they manage Murphy will be the key.  CG have more firepower but need to curb Murphy.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: sammymaguire on October 04, 2011, 01:12:59 PM
Seen the highlights on TG4 last night. How the Castlerahan full back stayed on the pitch longer than 20 minutes is unreal, he had a shocker! That Donegal team will be hard to bate for Cavan Gaels although I wont be putting any money on the outcome of it
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Ollie on October 04, 2011, 06:09:49 PM
Just seen the draw for the under 21 championship on the Hoganstand just now.. Does anyone know what clubs are involved in the  Assan Gaels, Drumloman, Newtown Gaels and Sliabh Glah Gaels amalgamations?
http://hoganstand.com/Cavan/ArticleForm.aspx?ID=156007
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on October 04, 2011, 06:29:33 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hugLHsWbaDQ&feature=feedu

Meehan looks to have been everywhere.. A lot of extremely poor defending from CRahan.. Glenswilly will be a big step up but I'd be confident if the Gaels stick to playing football they can go far.. When you look at the talent at their disposal they will feel they should be rattling Ulster. That's what it's all about for them now.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on October 05, 2011, 11:48:22 AM
Quote from: Ollie on October 04, 2011, 06:09:49 PM
Just seen the draw for the under 21 championship on the Hoganstand just now.. Does anyone know what clubs are involved in the  Assan Gaels, Drumloman, Newtown Gaels and Sliabh Glah Gaels amalgamations?
http://hoganstand.com/Cavan/ArticleForm.aspx?ID=156007

Well Sliabh Glah Gaels are usually Denn and Killygarry.  And as far as Hurling is concerned Drumloman is Mullahorn and Ballymachugh together.  Don't know a thing about the rest
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on October 05, 2011, 12:12:37 PM
Lads, bit more on that Commission Report 

http://cootehillceltic.com/news/2011/Commission%20Report.html
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dougal on October 05, 2011, 12:32:29 PM
newtown are ballinagh cornafean and lacken,they should be very strong.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on October 05, 2011, 01:34:47 PM
Celt Man, did I hear right that your lot didn't take too kindly to Drumgoon being the pride of the parish?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on October 05, 2011, 01:52:18 PM
Quote from: Lawrence of Knockbride on October 05, 2011, 01:34:47 PM
Celt Man, did I hear right that your lot didn't take too kindly to Drumgoon being the pride of the parish?

How so?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on October 05, 2011, 02:24:05 PM
Newtown Gaels have an excellent team on paper but it doesn't always go to plan with amalgamations.. Its  a strong team in all areas and hopefully they can they can it out.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: PhilsJemmysField on October 05, 2011, 05:51:52 PM
Assan are Killinkere and Lavey, will have numbers but poor enough
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on October 05, 2011, 09:21:15 PM
Was Gavin Duffy carrying an injury on Sunday? He was probaly the best defender the gaels had the last few years, never got much of a chance with the county.. Noticed Walsh wasn't involved either what was the story there. Maloney Derham and Meehan will more than likely be on the senior panel next season, Niall Smith won't be far off it either. Surprised the county board didn't move the replay of the div1 league final before the junior final on Sunday instead of it being in virginia on saturday... There is nothing on before the junior match would have made sense.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on October 06, 2011, 07:43:12 AM
Quote from: rodney trotter on October 05, 2011, 09:21:15 PM
Was Gavin Duffy carrying an injury on Sunday? He was probaly the best defender the gaels had the last few years, never got much of a chance with the county.. Noticed Walsh wasn't involved either what was the story there. Maloney Derham and Meehan will more than likely be on the senior panel next season, Niall Smith won't be far off it either. Surprised the county board didn't move the replay of the div1 league final before the junior final on Sunday instead of it being in virginia on saturday... There is nothing on before the junior match would have made sense.

Id imagine the reason the League final replay isn't on before the Junior final is because the clubs have to get a split of the gate for the League final, which obviously couldn't happen if it's played before a Championship match.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on October 06, 2011, 11:28:29 AM


Id imagine the reason the League final replay isn't on before the Junior final is because the clubs have to get a split of the gate for the League final, which obviously couldn't happen if it's played before a Championship match.


Fair point Booj, didn't think of that..
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: drici on October 06, 2011, 01:13:43 PM

Cavan Ticket Sales

Cavan ladies will be selling tickets at two venues this weekend

Friday 7th October: Super Value Ballyconnell 7-9pm

Saturday 8th October: Breffni Park 1-2.30pm

Tickets will be available to purchase on the day from two venues.

Tickets will be sold from GAA Ticket officer at Gills Corner and the Ticket Van will be on Jones' Road.

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Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on October 06, 2011, 06:59:26 PM
A suggestion for next year maybe.

The team that wins the Senior championship could play the County team as a warm up?

The County Team management could look at the opponent's tactics and try and replicate them so it would give a good work out to the Champions, get the county team started early and also give the county team some experience of using other systems.

Best of luck to CG.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on October 06, 2011, 08:27:29 PM
Guess what.  We got Donegal again. 

At least we will be able to guage the progress made from this year.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: whats my name on October 06, 2011, 08:28:19 PM
whooooo donegal more puke football on show in breffni park this summer cant believe we got them again at least we have the guts of 8-9 months to come up with a plan on beating them val start thinking.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on October 06, 2011, 08:40:40 PM
Beat Donegal and a nice handy number against Derry and then the winners of Tyrone/Armagh. When you compare it to the Connacht championship a bit of a joke really.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on October 06, 2011, 08:46:25 PM
Great, another putrid spectacle awaits in Breffni. Didn't we play Donegal in the 1st round 3 years in a row in the early 90's, losing them all. They are way advanced compared to us and I just don't think we will be fit to beat them no matter what happens between now and then.  McGuinness has some of them back doing weight training for the past weeks with a specialist rugby trainer. The only hope is that Donegals famous indiscipline comes back!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on October 06, 2011, 08:59:52 PM
Quote from: Denn Forever on October 06, 2011, 06:59:26 PM
A suggestion for next year maybe.

The team that wins the Senior championship could play the County team as a warm up?

The County Team management could look at the opponent's tactics and try and replicate them so it would give a good work out to the Champions, get the county team started early and also give the county team some experience of using other systems.

Best of luck to CG.

Lads we have a genius in our ranks.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Ollie on October 07, 2011, 01:24:07 AM
What bothers me most about the draw is that the losers will have to wait for 6-8 weeks before the first round qualifiers to begin. It be hard for any management team to keeps guys focused for that length of time between games.

Hopefully some of the under 21s from this year will commit to the panel next year. I think forwards such of the calibre of the McDermott, Niall Murray, Niall Smith with the possible Inclusion of Martin Dunne would be as good as most teams within Div 3. In the Backs you would hope the likes of  Moynagh, Mickey Brady, Fergal Flanagan and Kevin Meehan would make the step up.

Hopefully when the Donegal game comes up we will have reason to be a bit more confident. 
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on October 07, 2011, 11:30:39 AM
Forgot next year at Senior the building will start the following year when hopefully new management are in place.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on October 07, 2011, 12:23:06 PM
Its almost every year Cavan come out in the perliminary round of the championship.. wouldn't fancy our chances against Derry if we did manage to beat Donegal which will be a struggle.. Be interesting to see the u21 draw when it happens, think Cavan can do well again next year with a lot of this years team still there.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on October 07, 2011, 12:27:17 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on October 07, 2011, 12:23:06 PM
Its almost every year Cavan come out in the perliminary round of the championship.. wouldn't fancy our chances against Derry if we did manage to beat Donegal which will be a struggle.. Be interesting to see the u21 draw when it happens, think Cavan can do well again next year with a lot of this years team still there.

I believe we have Armagh in the 1st round of the U21 ulster championship. They won the Minor All Ireland in 2009.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on October 07, 2011, 02:23:45 PM
Where is that game booj?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on October 07, 2011, 02:53:52 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on October 07, 2011, 12:23:06 PM
Its almost every year Cavan come out in the perliminary round of the championship.. wouldn't fancy our chances against Derry if we did manage to beat Donegal which will be a struggle.. Be interesting to see the u21 draw when it happens, think Cavan can do well again next year with a lot of this years team still there.

Don't think you are right there Rodney. It's a long time ago since we were in the preliminary round,  maybe against down was it 8 yrs ago. Donegal and antrim were in it last yr.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Blue06 on October 07, 2011, 03:47:43 PM
Myles,

We played in the Preliminary Round in 2008 v antrim in Casement losing to Armagh in the First Round proper


Full Under-21 draw:

Preliminary Round (March 21):
Fermanagh v Tyrone     

First round (March 21):
Cavan v Armagh
Derry v Monaghan
Down v Antrim
Donegal v Fermanagh/Tyrone   

Semi-Finals (April 4):
Down/Antrim v Donegal/Fermanagh/Tyrone
Cavan/Armagh v Derry/Monaghan           

Final (April 11)       
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on October 08, 2011, 06:23:55 PM
Congrats to CC1 and Shercock on their Junior championship win this evening..
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: sans pessimism on October 08, 2011, 06:34:02 PM
Are the Gaels good enough to win Ulster,and is there a guard from Mayo still involved with them...Joe ?(I think)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: CC1 on October 09, 2011, 04:00:19 AM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on October 08, 2011, 06:23:55 PM
Congrats to CC1 and Shercock on their Junior championship win this evening..
Ta BHM! To be honest I'm totally ball bagged tonight, after 27 years of waiting! I think our lads deserved all credit. Sound and committed bunch of lads, deserve everything. I'm a write off for mon! Come on the cocks! Know munchie lads and commisrations with them. Their day will come, great team and good bunch of lads!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: whats my name on October 09, 2011, 08:02:02 AM
well done to shercock diserving winners one of the best games of football i seen all year in breffni hopefully you's will go on and give ulster a good rattle now.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on October 09, 2011, 11:42:47 AM
Congrats to Shercock, it's been a long time coming.

Best of luck to our Ladies again today. Both teams will feel they didn't play to their potential last week but Cavan have the slight mental edge after getting out of Jail. It looks like we could be in for another soaking but it would be fantastic to see Aisling lift the cup. An Cabhan Abu!!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on October 09, 2011, 09:00:29 PM
Really hard defeat for the ladies today. I can't understand one thing. Why was shierdan taking frees on the left when she wasn't even close with on free while on the same,team you have doonan who kicked a sideline ball over from the left last time out. Crazy to me. I think westmeath shaded it although the best player on the pitch was the Cavan wing back who got sin binned near the end.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on October 09, 2011, 10:55:38 PM
Gutted for the Ladies, the sin binnings killed us. Especially at a crucial time losing English who was probably in line for MVP until she got the line. We couldn't win kick outs then and it allowed Westmeath back.. Aisling should have taken the free from the left near the end, but she couldn't take the free off Sheridan and I suppose the manager would be slated if he gave it to a left footed player.. The free at the end was too far out and too rushed. Perhaps we were unlucky not to come away with a draw. I think Clerkin and Smith should possibly have started the game.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on October 10, 2011, 09:44:25 AM
Well done to Westmeath but very hard luck on Cavan.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on October 10, 2011, 10:01:38 AM
Cruel luck on the Ladies. Losing Donna English was a massive blow. She was outstanding. The Kerry man in charge didn't do us any favours either. How Grainne Smith wasn't making that team I'l never know. I wouldn't follow ladies football much but I know that Grainne has been one of the top ladies footballers in Cavan for a number of years.
Anyway Fair play to all the girls, it was a great journey and will be a massive boost for the sport in the county.
Also well done to Westmeath.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on October 10, 2011, 11:56:51 AM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on October 09, 2011, 09:00:29 PM
Really hard defeat for the ladies today. I can't understand one thing. Why was shierdan taking frees on the left when she wasn't even close with on free while on the same,team you have doonan who kicked a sideline ball over from the left last time out. Crazy to me. I think westmeath shaded it although the best player on the pitch was the Cavan wing back who got sin binned near the end.

I think the commentators were finding it hard to believe that doonan wasnt kicking them either but as captain she should have been demanding the ball. She would have kicked the majority of them with her eyes closed.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on October 10, 2011, 12:51:34 PM
Quote from: tommysmith on October 10, 2011, 11:56:51 AM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on October 09, 2011, 09:00:29 PM
Really hard defeat for the ladies today. I can't understand one thing. Why was shierdan taking frees on the left when she wasn't even close with on free while on the same,team you have doonan who kicked a sideline ball over from the left last time out. Crazy to me. I think westmeath shaded it although the best player on the pitch was the Cavan wing back who got sin binned near the end.

I think the commentators were finding it hard to believe that doonan wasnt kicking them either but as captain she should have been demanding the ball. She would have kicked the majority of them with her eyes closed.

Thats what lost them the game in the end. Aside from Doonan demanding the ball surely the manager should have made that call. I knew she going to miss that easy free so why did the manager not make that call. Bizarre to me.

So are they still intermediate next yr or whats the story?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on October 10, 2011, 01:04:37 PM
Cavan were unlucky yesterday, up by 5 points i thought might would hold on and win. Aishling Doonan was very good in the first half but in the second half i think there was 2 Westmeath players following her. Cavan didn't seem to have a clue what to do when she was being marked out of the game, where as westmeath had 3 or 4 forwards who could run at the cavan defence and score. Westmeath had some shocking wides in the second half and probaly deserved the win overall. Grainne Smith should definitely have started the game.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on October 10, 2011, 01:35:24 PM
In fairness to Adrian McGovern, if he demanded that a left footed player take a tricky enough free on the left hand side with a few minutes to go in the game and she had missed, he would have been slated and accused of not trusting his other players. Sheridan should have nailed that kick but the pressure told.

4 times in Croker this year without a win.. :(
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on October 10, 2011, 01:53:22 PM
Quote from: Westside on October 10, 2011, 01:35:24 PM
In fairness to Adrian McGovern, if he demanded that a left footed player take a tricky enough free on the left hand side with a few minutes to go in the game and she had missed, he would have been slated and accused of not trusting his other players. Sheridan should have nailed that kick but the pressure told.

4 times in Croker this year without a win.. :(

In fairness it was more than one free on that side that was missed.

Its the same in mens football and I dont know where this has come from anyway a good striker off the ball should be fit to kick frees from either side.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Blue06 on October 10, 2011, 02:41:47 PM
Hard luck to the girls but like what has been said already, why was Doonan not kicking all the frees.  When you have a free taker as talented as her it doesn't make any difference what side the free is on.  If she was given all the frees there wouldn't even have been a replay as it would have been wrapped up the first day.
Having said that Westmeath kicked some shocking wides and probably deserved the win yesterday.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: sans pessimism on October 10, 2011, 05:21:44 PM
yea-frees killed them
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: PhilsJemmysField on October 12, 2011, 04:04:22 PM
What is this Donegal crew like on Sunday that the Gaels are playing ? Who are Shercock playing ?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: sans pessimism on October 12, 2011, 06:31:52 PM
Quote from: PhilsJemmysField on October 12, 2011, 04:04:22 PM
What is this Donegal crew like on Sunday that the Gaels are playing ? Who are Shercock playing ?
Michael Murphy is their main man
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on October 12, 2011, 07:21:00 PM
Is the Gaels game going to be on TG4?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on October 12, 2011, 08:13:07 PM
Quote from: PhilsJemmysField on October 12, 2011, 04:04:22 PM
What is this Donegal crew like on Sunday that the Gaels are playing ? Who are Shercock playing ?

Strong up the middle with big men. However, it was their first senior championship win so they may not be focused on Ulster.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: skeog on October 13, 2011, 07:59:19 PM
dont underestimate glenswilly nothing to lose in michael murphy best full forward in the land
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on October 14, 2011, 01:14:13 PM
Quote from: Westside on October 12, 2011, 07:21:00 PM
Is the Gaels game going to be on TG4?

No. 

Cluiche Ceannais Peile Chorcaí
Coláiste na hOllscoile, Corcaigh -vs- Gleann Bhearracháin, 15.45
Páirc Uí Chaoimh

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on October 16, 2011, 02:22:41 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1o1veHUo5uQ&feature=related
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on October 16, 2011, 06:43:25 PM
Gaynor cost Cavan that u21 final Westside..

Gaels knocked out of the Ulster Club today. I thought they might edge it as they had been in Ulster before and it Glenswillys first time in the competion. The Gaels started well 4-1 up lyng hit 2 good points but after that glenswilly got on top. Gallagher was very good at midfield, he outplayed enda king. Murphy was moved to Centre forward near the end of the first half and came more into the game. He didn't get much supply when he was at ff bar one fantastic catch. He had great nerve to score the pen at the end as he missed one to win the All Ireland u21 in beffni last year. Niall Murray,Meehan and probaly were the gaels better players, Martin Dunne was very poor, he doesn't have the strength for Ulster Club. Johnston was a joke the way he went about roaring at players if they didn't give him  the perfect ball and hitting sly off the ball!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Ollie on October 16, 2011, 07:01:29 PM
Penalty was a harsh decision. Didn't see any foul committed myself but that being said the ref was giving soft frees to both sides throughout the game along with unnecessary yellow cards. Neither team were capable of playing free flowing football because of the over fussy ref. I thought overall the Gaels were the better team and should have been more than two points ahead going into added time. Johnston and King didnt play well at all today. I thought Lyng had a good game as did Murray, Meehan and Maloney. Daragh Sexton also gave a good account of himself. It's a bitter defeat for the Gaels and its a pity that it was poor referring that dictated the outcome of the game and not the opposition.

Glenswilly play a similar type game as the Donegal seniors with a blanket defence in operation along with a lot of short passing. They have the ability to far in the competition. Best of luck to them.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on October 16, 2011, 07:10:19 PM
The Red done the gaels no favours your right there ollie.. A few glensilly players went down in the first half when the gaels were getting on top which slowed down the tempo of the game.. Murray was unlucky with the chance when he ran through for the point, it was a brillant run but probaly should have ended in the net instead of over the bar.. Sean Reilly missed a great chance for a goal aswell.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on October 16, 2011, 07:10:58 PM
Ref i meant not.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on October 16, 2011, 10:30:03 PM
Quote from: Richiej on October 16, 2011, 09:14:43 PM
I actually thought the Gaels lost it on the sideline today. I couldnt understand the managements decision to play Meehan as a defender while the Gaels were playing with the wind.This tactic showed Murphy too much respect..Yes he is a good player but he never scored from play.. Also Sean Reilly was operating as a 3rd midfielder thus leaving the Gaels with only 4 forwards and relying on a quick break from their defence..Was Niall Smith injured ? Because if he wasnt it was definitely a blunder by the mnagement not starting him..
Id have put Sean Reilly in full forward and pumped high ball into him..This tactic would soon have sorted Glenswillys blanket defence.
Fair play to Glenswilly and good luck to them
This result highlights the poor quality of Cavan Club football because the Gaels are streets ahead of any other club in Cavan...It just shows how bad the rest of the clubs in the County are..

There is a long road ahead for Cavan football.. Teams like the Gaels would be better off having Team managers from within their structure..
Thats their biggest downfall, outside Managers changing their style..Back in the 70s they would never dream of playing a sweeper like today. They won Championships with flair and skill and with forwards who were allowed express themselves as forwards.. not as backs..
Those kinda tactics are ok for County Teams but when you have teams like the Gaels who are together since underage its difficult to change a stlye to suit new outside managers who come and go regularly
I wasn't at the game but the brother said the very same thing. Why play a sweeper? Kevin Meehan didn't play a sweeper against Castlerahan and he got MotM and the Gaels won pulling up. The same old problem with Cavan teams down the years. A fear of losing instead of a belief in themselves and playing to their strengths. He said the Gaels should have won by 4-5 points had they played their normal game.
It is a shame because I felt that they could have made an Ulster final. The Gaels have the right age profile to make an impact in Ulster. Bar Cathal Collins I can't see anyone else thinking of hanging up the boots.
However I can't accept your point about an outside manager being to blame. I believe Anthony Forde has as much influence in the set-up as Darren Chapman. Anyhow bar Joe O Connor a naturalized Gaels man, all Cavan Gaels Senior success since 2000 (8 titles) has been under outside managers. Not bad in fairness!!!!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up-again on October 16, 2011, 10:59:43 PM
Now BooJ, are you really suggesting leaving Murphy one on one inside. After the u21 final two years everyone agreed it was ridiculous to not have a sweeper on him and there is not a player in the county that is better at performing that role than Kevin.

The real move to me that suggested they didn't really belief in their own ability's was dropping Niall Smith. If you are only playing two inside then a player like him is vital to carry the ball into the others offense.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on October 16, 2011, 11:20:37 PM
Quote from: put-it-up-again on October 16, 2011, 10:59:43 PM
Now BooJ, are you really suggesting leaving Murphy one on one inside. After the u21 final two years everyone agreed it was ridiculous to not have a sweeper on him and there is not a player in the county that is better at performing that role than Kevin.

The real move to me that suggested they didn't really belief in their own ability's was dropping Niall Smith. If you are only playing two inside then a player like him is vital to carry the ball into the others offense.

Cathal Collins is still the best full back at club level in Cavan. He is more than a physical match for Murphy. If you have 2 good corner backs on their toes you don't need a sweeper. The centre half also can help out. Kevin is great in that role but that doesn't mean you play him there every game.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on October 16, 2011, 11:45:12 PM
Why can't a team start the game positively, ie no sweeper, and if it doesn't work out revert to a sweeper?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: PhilsJemmysField on October 17, 2011, 09:51:26 AM
Gaels missed two good Goal chances in second half. Martin Dunne missed a 3/4 chance in first half. Johnstone from play was anonymous. Overall Glenswilly won the battle in the middle in the first half and was 50/50 in the second. When Meehan pushed up midway through second half Gaels were on top. The penalty at the end was a classic case of Shit happens. But the one thing about the Donegal lads they had two players out the field fit to play long ball in to Murphy. Which is a skill in it self.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Lawrence of Knockbride on October 17, 2011, 01:40:13 PM
Was at the game yesterday and I would be of the belief that the Gaels were right to play a sweeper. I hate to disagree with you Boojangles but Collins was not a physical match for Murphy. The thing that saved him was that only one ball went in high to him and then he moved out to centre forward. The one that did come in he did what he does to everyone, he held Collins off with one hand and collected the ball with the other. Whether Meehan was the man to do the jobs is open to debate but the Gaels didn't have two good corner backs in there cos Glenswilly only played two inside. If no sweeper had been played and Murphy had rattled the net early on I'm pretty sure we'd be asking why didn't the Gaels play a sweeper when Murphy was the most obvious of obvious threats.
Sean Reilly and Enda King were poor on the ball although in fairness to Reilly he did make three clean catches from kickouts. I actually thought that by bringing Smith on and releasing Meehan from his defensive duties that the Gaels had performed a smart move and it took Glenswilly by surprise. They went 2 up in a very tight game and had Sean Reilly or Murray taken their goal chances we'd be on here talking about what a deserved win it was. These are the thin lines between winning and losing. I have no idea if it were a penalty or not but there wasn't much complaining and it's hard to see why the ref would have given it if it wasn't. As PJF said it was a case of shit happens. It will be a serious blow to the Gaels mentally, especially to the likes of Lyng, Johnstone,Chesty,Dominic etc. who have been through this all before.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: sans pessimism on October 17, 2011, 03:47:47 PM
Gaels will have to get Joe the Mayoman back to manage them
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on October 17, 2011, 05:47:56 PM
I understand your point RichieJ. It may be a factor behind the reason why Cavan Gaels have never been successful in Ulster but it is only a factor and not the main reason IMO. In 2009 you's were beaten by St Galls, who went on to win on Paddys Day. That day indiscipline cost ye. In years to come it may be seen as the one that got away.
2008 yas went up Casement and beat St Galls and really should have kicked on but got hammered by Ballinderry minus Jelly who could only come on that day.
07 after beating St Eunans yas lost to St Galls again starting without Jelly. Mc Glade was sent off that day.
05 yas bet Latton and again really should have kicked on but lost to Bellaghy by 2.
04 beaten by Crossmaglen by a goal. Crotty sent off.
In that period Cavan Gaels have been managed by men who have won the Ulster club championship as a manager and a player.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not having a go at Cavan Gaels here. On their day they are as good as any club side in Ulster but unfortunately they have yet to have that day when it matters in Ulster. I'm from one of the Gaels rival clubs but I admire and envy the set up within the Gaels club. As a Cavan man I would always cheer on our representatives in Ulster as it can only be good for football inthe county if they are successful. I just feel it is too easy to put it all down to the tactics of outside managers.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on October 17, 2011, 06:47:28 PM
Crossmaglen have Tony McEntee and Gareth O'Neill managing them.. Before that it was John Murtagh and John McEntee and before him Joe Kernan all Crossmaglen men, maybe that might say something about their success.. Some clubs in Cavan spend ridiculous money on big name managers ie mullahoran and go nowhere.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on October 17, 2011, 11:03:24 PM
Quote from: Richiej on October 17, 2011, 10:25:46 PM
I was always a believer that club teams should be managed from within.. Players together from under 14 learn to play a certain way. Call it a club style if you like. It doesnt  take or need big named managers to manage these players at Senior level that have come through the ranks. The grass roots manager comands more respect than the big named outside manager.                                                           Crossmaglen are an example a previous poster gave.. So are Portumna in the hurling club.. Average managers who have come up through the club ranks with those players .. The respect the players have for these managers will be seen in their discipline and as we know the Gaels discipline has been poor.. The Gaels have plenty of senior ex players well capable of getting more out of that bunch of players.. They don't need to go outside.. No club does.

Mickey Graham jnr as the next Gaels Manager then Richie???
Sunday was very disappointing,i thought this would be the year the Gaels finally made to an Ulster Club final, with B'derry, Galls and Cross on the other side of the draw.
This Glenswilly team wasnt as good as the Brendan Devenney led Eunans that the Gaels beat 4/5 years ago.
Now im no expert on the Gaels,but there were some key personnel decisions that i even as an outsider would question with regards Sundays team. I dont think it was the best team the Gaels could have put out,and that falls on the management.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on October 18, 2011, 11:51:27 AM
I think it's over complicating things to get into what team could have started and where the management is from. The Gaels were 2 points up in the 60th minute of a game, it's a matter of the players closing it out by whatever means necessary and instead they got caught and gave away the penalty.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on October 18, 2011, 11:56:37 AM
Quote from: Westside on October 18, 2011, 11:51:27 AM
I think it's over complicating things to get into what team could have started and where the management is from. The Gaels were 2 points up in the 60th minute of a game, it's a matter of the players closing it out by whatever means necessary and instead they got caught and gave away the penalty.

I wasnt at it but was told that the Gaels were the better team and should have won by 5 or 6 points but didnt take there chances.  If that is the case you cant blame management for that.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: angellady on October 18, 2011, 02:12:17 PM
Quote from: Richiej on October 16, 2011, 09:14:43 PM
I actually thought the Gaels lost it on the sideline today. I couldnt understand the managements decision to play Meehan as a defender while the Gaels were playing with the wind.This tactic showed Murphy too much respect..Yes he is a good player but he never scored from play.. Also Sean Reilly was operating as a 3rd midfielder thus leaving the Gaels with only 4 forwards and relying on a quick break from their defence..Was Niall Smith injured ? Because if he wasnt it was definitely a blunder by the mnagement not starting him..
Id have put Sean Reilly in full forward and pumped high ball into him..This tactic would soon have sorted Glenswillys blanket defence.
Fair play to Glenswilly and good luck to them
This result highlights the poor quality of Cavan Club football because the Gaels are streets ahead of any other club in Cavan...It just shows how bad the rest of the clubs in the County are..

There is a long road ahead for Cavan football.. Teams like the Gaels would be better off having Team managers from within their structure..
Thats their biggest downfall, outside Managers changing their style..Back in the 70s they would never dream of playing a sweeper like today. They won Championships with flair and skill and with forwards who were allowed express themselves as forwards.. not as backs..
Those kinda tactics are ok for County Teams but when you have teams like the Gaels who are together since underage its difficult to change a stlye to suit new outside managers who come and go regularly

Awe for jaysus sake don't tell me you are on this site now. Lads this w**k is an imposter and a right pain in the you know what. Thinks he knows it all!! You have been warned! Go back to the hoganstand plzzzzzszzz!!!!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on October 18, 2011, 04:00:38 PM
It's a discussion board, everybody is entitled to their opinion without being abused.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on October 18, 2011, 04:05:47 PM
Jaysus, i havent seen this place as hostile since the days of Hollowman labelling some of us  as "knackers"  :P
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up-again on October 18, 2011, 04:12:54 PM
Ah come on, Hoganstanders stick to your own stomping ground.

I went on there last week and you need a translator for some of the posts.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on October 18, 2011, 04:30:06 PM
Also please learn how to use the quote function and type correctly. The rows over on the HS looks like ye lads throwing cans of Alphabetti Spaghetti at each other. Please don't ruin this board too.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on October 18, 2011, 05:20:33 PM
Be some laugh if that love him hate him character Tom Smith from hoganstand ended up on here aswell :o The main reason i dont look at hoganstand is that sort of crap.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on October 18, 2011, 05:43:50 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on October 18, 2011, 05:20:33 PM
Be some laugh if that love him hate him character Tom Smith from hoganstand ended up on here aswell :o The main reason i dont look at hoganstand is that sort of crap.

;D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on October 18, 2011, 06:57:07 PM
Obviously no relation of yours Tommy ha !
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on October 18, 2011, 07:16:07 PM
I think it's safe to say TomSmith is on some sort of a retainer from the Hogan Stand Mods as a resident WUM cum village idiot. How some of his posts and threads  get published while relatively regular efforts at posting get censored takes a lot of explaining.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on October 18, 2011, 07:44:42 PM
Quote from: anglocelt39 on October 18, 2011, 07:16:07 PM
I think it's safe to say TomSmith is on some sort of a retainer from the Hogan Stand Mods as a resident WUM cum village idiot. How some of his posts and threads  get published while relatively regular efforts at posting get censored takes a lot of explaining.

That sean o rinn or whatever his name is should be censored on there aswell.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: put-it-up-again on October 18, 2011, 09:40:51 PM
Quote from: tommysmith on October 18, 2011, 07:44:42 PM
Quote from: anglocelt39 on October 18, 2011, 07:16:07 PM
I think it's safe to say TomSmith is on some sort of a retainer from the Hogan Stand Mods as a resident WUM cum village idiot. How some of his posts and threads  get published while relatively regular efforts at posting get censored takes a lot of explaining.

That sean o rinn or whatever his name is should be censored on there aswell.

Censored...now that is putting it kindly!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on October 18, 2011, 10:17:25 PM
Hoganstand is a joke website. As you all rightly say, people who write absolute trash get printed and people who try to write something constructive get censored. Mods obviously working to an agenda of some sort over there.

However, I'm not sure what all the abuse is about on here. Richie just stated an opinion re the gaels management and people go jumping down his throat. Bad form folks, especially when it is coming from some posters who have very little to say on here most of the time. As for yer man Sean O Rinn, while i might not agree with him at least he does try and put a point or two across. Problem is over there that instead of debating posters just play the man instead and start slagging.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on October 18, 2011, 10:21:51 PM
I have no problem with richiej i would agree with most of the stuff he says anyway..
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on October 18, 2011, 10:39:16 PM
Back to football anyone have any word on who is on this new panel that is been put together?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: sammymaguire on October 18, 2011, 10:44:43 PM
Jaysus things getting hot and heavy here in An Cabhan.  :o Ya's would think that ye lot weren't used to losing games with all this arguing and hand bags flying everywhere
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on October 18, 2011, 11:23:12 PM
As bad as we are there is still a bit of fight in us, when that wears off we'll head over to the fermanagh thread and talk about knitting with ye boys.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Ollie on October 19, 2011, 12:37:34 AM
Quote from: tommysmith on October 18, 2011, 10:39:16 PM
Back to football anyone have any word on who is on this new panel that is been put together?

With the club championship over now do you think there be many new faces on the panel? I only attended my own teams championship games so I wouldn't up to speed on players from other clubs but from what I can gather It seems the guys who made the biggest impressions over the course of the championship were the lads on the County Under 21 team this year. Do you think there be many players outside of the under 21s being called up for the new season?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Breffni_Yank on October 19, 2011, 02:34:20 PM
Quote from: Ollie on October 19, 2011, 12:37:34 AM
Quote from: tommysmith on October 18, 2011, 10:39:16 PM
Back to football anyone have any word on who is on this new panel that is been put together?

With the club championship over now do you think there be many new faces on the panel? I only attended my own teams championship games so I wouldn't up to speed on players from other clubs but from what I can gather It seems the guys who made the biggest impressions over the course of the championship were the lads on the County Under 21 team this year. Do you think there be many players outside of the under 21s being called up for the new season?

From what I have been told there are two or three players on the senior panel now that could not make the U21 panels on matchday this year.

If it is true then obviously a lot of players are opting out. The only players that should be stepping up from u21 straight into the seniors are the ones who excelled. Anyway that is just hearsay I picked up at work.

All will be revealed in time I suppose...
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on October 19, 2011, 02:54:04 PM
Quote from: Breffni_Yank on October 19, 2011, 02:34:20 PM
Quote from: Ollie on October 19, 2011, 12:37:34 AM
Quote from: tommysmith on October 18, 2011, 10:39:16 PM
Back to football anyone have any word on who is on this new panel that is been put together?

With the club championship over now do you think there be many new faces on the panel? I only attended my own teams championship games so I wouldn't up to speed on players from other clubs but from what I can gather It seems the guys who made the biggest impressions over the course of the championship were the lads on the County Under 21 team this year. Do you think there be many players outside of the under 21s being called up for the new season?
. The only players that should be stepping up from u21 straight into the seniors are the ones who excelled.

That is rubbish. 

What about players who never played minor or U-21 should they not be selected?

Just because they didnt make a U-21 team should not exclude them from the senior panel that would be madness.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Breffni_Yank on October 19, 2011, 02:57:17 PM
Quote from: tommysmith on October 19, 2011, 02:54:04 PM
Quote from: Breffni_Yank on October 19, 2011, 02:34:20 PM
Quote from: Ollie on October 19, 2011, 12:37:34 AM
Quote from: tommysmith on October 18, 2011, 10:39:16 PM
Back to football anyone have any word on who is on this new panel that is been put together?

With the club championship over now do you think there be many new faces on the panel? I only attended my own teams championship games so I wouldn't up to speed on players from other clubs but from what I can gather It seems the guys who made the biggest impressions over the course of the championship were the lads on the County Under 21 team this year. Do you think there be many players outside of the under 21s being called up for the new season?
. The only players that should be stepping up from u21 straight into the seniors are the ones who excelled.

That is rubbish. 

What about players who never played minor or U-21 should they not be selected?

Just because they didnt make a U-21 team should not exclude them from the senior panel that would be madness.

If they couldn't make the u21 panel this year then I think it is madness..
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on October 19, 2011, 03:01:01 PM
Quote from: Breffni_Yank on October 19, 2011, 02:57:17 PM
Quote from: tommysmith on October 19, 2011, 02:54:04 PM
Quote from: Breffni_Yank on October 19, 2011, 02:34:20 PM
Quote from: Ollie on October 19, 2011, 12:37:34 AM
Quote from: tommysmith on October 18, 2011, 10:39:16 PM
Back to football anyone have any word on who is on this new panel that is been put together?

With the club championship over now do you think there be many new faces on the panel? I only attended my own teams championship games so I wouldn't up to speed on players from other clubs but from what I can gather It seems the guys who made the biggest impressions over the course of the championship were the lads on the County Under 21 team this year. Do you think there be many players outside of the under 21s being called up for the new season?
. The only players that should be stepping up from u21 straight into the seniors are the ones who excelled.

That is rubbish. 

What about players who never played minor or U-21 should they not be selected?

Just because they didnt make a U-21 team should not exclude them from the senior panel that would be madness.

If they couldn't make the u21 panel this year then I think it is madness..

So only players that have been on U21 panels should be considered for senior panels?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Breffni_Yank on October 19, 2011, 03:07:38 PM
Are you mentally slow?

I am not saying for one second a lad needs to have played underage county football to be able to be on the seniors but to have three lads in that couldn't make the u21 subs about four months ago seems like we are pretty desperate to me..
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on October 19, 2011, 03:11:30 PM
Quote from: Breffni_Yank on October 19, 2011, 03:07:38 PM
Are you mentally slow?

I am not saying for one second a lad needs to have played underage county football to be able to be on the seniors but to have three lads in that couldn't make the u21 subs about four months ago seems like we are pretty desperate to me..

Thats not a nice way to talk to someone on the internet.

I think everyone should be getting a chance to prove themselves.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Breffni_Yank on October 19, 2011, 03:16:31 PM
Quote from: tommysmith on October 19, 2011, 03:11:30 PM
Quote from: Breffni_Yank on October 19, 2011, 03:07:38 PM
Are you mentally slow?

I am not saying for one second a lad needs to have played underage county football to be able to be on the seniors but to have three lads in that couldn't make the u21 subs about four months ago seems like we are pretty desperate to me..

Thats not a nice way to talk to someone on the internet.

I think everyone should be getting a chance to prove themselves.

Apologies, bad day at the office here.

Andrews has been here a year and he spent that entire year chopping and changing. The u21's were called in and then he had a Junior Panel on the go for a good while so am I the only one that was hoping we had a settled squad together and working hard to improve for next year rather than the same oul crap of bringing lads in, play them in the McKenna Cup and then cutting them loose?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on October 19, 2011, 03:24:05 PM
Quote from: Breffni_Yank on October 19, 2011, 03:16:31 PM
Quote from: tommysmith on October 19, 2011, 03:11:30 PM
Quote from: Breffni_Yank on October 19, 2011, 03:07:38 PM
Are you mentally slow?

I am not saying for one second a lad needs to have played underage county football to be able to be on the seniors but to have three lads in that couldn't make the u21 subs about four months ago seems like we are pretty desperate to me..

Thats not a nice way to talk to someone on the internet.

I think everyone should be getting a chance to prove themselves.

Apologies, bad day at the office here.

Andrews has been here a year and he spent that entire year chopping and changing. The u21's were called in and then he had a Junior Panel on the go for a good while so am I the only one that was hoping we had a settled squad together and working hard to improve for next year rather than the same oul crap of bringing lads in, play them in the McKenna Cup and then cutting them loose?
I dont know if the Junior panel was anything to do with Andrews but i dont think it is run right anyway.

Andrews is a clown as far as i'm concerned and the clubs should be trying to get him out but they wont, as the majority of clubs dont give a Fcuk about the county team.

The Mckenna cup is a competition for trying out new players and if they are not showing well or up to it what can be done with them.  It will be far from a settled squad after the performances from last year i wouldnt have many of them on it but maybe they are best we have.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on October 19, 2011, 03:42:41 PM
I heard after the Longford game in june that there would be a few lads not playing with the county next season after the farce that went on this season.. Was Connor McClarey one of the 3 u21s brought in? He wasn't starting for them but was doing allright coming off the bench. I can't see major improvements next year.. It will be the same as every year not knowing the strongest team because half the team won't be playing in the mckenna cup as they will be playing with the colleges, then in the national league in the early rounds the sigerson does be on.. It doesn't help then when a few of the better players from Cavan Gaels won't commit to the panel.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Breffni_Yank on October 19, 2011, 04:03:57 PM
Andrews was the manager of the Junior team and three three lads I heard were called weren't even asked into the Junior panel after the u21's finished up. Can anyone else make sense of that?

If we started with so many of the younger players in the summer I would have thought that most of them will be in there again, training and working hard so to try and hit the ground running when the year starts, get a good run in the McKenna instead of the usual shite.



Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on October 19, 2011, 04:19:15 PM
Was Jason Reilly not manager of the Junior team?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dougal on October 19, 2011, 04:20:08 PM
Quote from: Breffni_Yank on October 19, 2011, 04:03:57 PM
Andrews was the manager of the Junior team and three three lads I heard were called weren't even asked into the Junior panel after the u21's finished up. Can anyone else make sense of that?

If we started with so many of the younger players in the summer I would have thought that most of them will be in there again, training and working hard so to try and hit the ground running when the year starts, get a good run in the McKenna instead of the usual shite.

can you PM me the three that you heard.

Jayo was selector, i think.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on October 19, 2011, 04:28:13 PM
Sure the names on here.. fks it will hardly prevent Cavan from winning sam next year ;D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on October 19, 2011, 04:28:41 PM
say
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on October 19, 2011, 04:28:56 PM
Quote from: Breffni_Yank on October 19, 2011, 04:03:57 PM
Andrews was the manager of the Junior team and three three lads I heard were called weren't even asked into the Junior panel after the u21's finished up. Can anyone else make sense of that?


Maybe they had a good league and championship with their clubs?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on October 19, 2011, 05:20:30 PM
I hope Andrews has the guts to drop Johnston this year if he continues this terrible run of form.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on October 19, 2011, 05:35:31 PM
Quote from: Westside on October 19, 2011, 05:20:30 PM
I hope Andrews has the guts to drop Johnston this year if he continues this terrible run of form.

I would like to see a new goalkeeper in also.

I dont think Alan O'Mara is the answer though he is a good shot stopper but his kickout is poor, his brother may be a better long term option.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on October 19, 2011, 05:57:50 PM
A few other hidden gems from Dublin wouldn't go a miss either.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on October 19, 2011, 06:43:56 PM
Quote from: Westside on October 19, 2011, 05:20:30 PM
I hope Andrews has the guts to drop Johnston this year if he continues this terrible run of form.

I reckon Johnston should take a break from football, he doesn't look happy in his skin.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: whats my name on October 20, 2011, 12:50:04 AM
i heard barry watters is back in on the panel i also heard jamie leahy the c-rahan keeper is in val mustn't have been at the county final. from what i hear dermot sheridan services are not required anymore. was just thinking would brides be worth another look at would be a good option at corner back very solid player for plunketts in dublin
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tierworker blue on October 20, 2011, 01:32:05 AM
We're planning...

http://www.hoganstand.com/ArticleForm.aspx?ID=156766
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BigMac on October 21, 2011, 06:12:56 AM
Heard through the grapevine that Seanie Johnston won't be playing county football next year. Too old at 26/27!! Apparently Val is going with youth and lads playing college football. Could mean a very different panel than last year. :o
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on October 21, 2011, 10:17:07 AM
Quote from: BigMac on October 21, 2011, 06:12:56 AM
Heard through the grapevine that Seanie Johnston won't be playing county football next year. Too old at 26/27!! Apparently Val is going with youth and lads playing college football. Could mean a very different panel than last year. :o

Is that Val saying he is to old or is it Johnston himself. He probably couldn't be arsed playing anyway and he would have been better off no where near it last year.

Roscommon did similar a few years ago and have had success since but getting to a Connaught final and winning it is a hell of a lot easier than Ulster.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on October 21, 2011, 11:07:14 AM
It might give johnston a give up the ass and get back playing well again,. he will be on the panel by the middle of the league if he is actually dropped..
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on October 21, 2011, 01:25:25 PM
Quote from: tommysmith on October 21, 2011, 10:17:07 AM
Quote from: BigMac on October 21, 2011, 06:12:56 AM
Heard through the grapevine that Seanie Johnston won't be playing county football next year. Too old at 26/27!! Apparently Val is going with youth and lads playing college football. Could mean a very different panel than last year. :o

Is that Val saying he is to old or is it Johnston himself. He probably couldn't be arsed playing anyway and he would have been better off no where near it last year.

Roscommon did similar a few years ago and have had success since but getting to a Connaught final and winning it is a hell of a lot easier than Ulster.

I seen him a few times last year and he just looked totally not interested. Its not fitness or age is his problem but his head. Maybe he just needs a break. Everyone thinks he will win games on his own so the pressure is high and maybe he started to believe some of the hype too. One thing for sure, worst decision this management ever did was making him captain. Let him take 12 months off, go see the world and maybe then he might get some hunger to play.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BigMac on October 21, 2011, 04:02:28 PM
Lyng got the same call as well. Too old at 26.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on October 21, 2011, 04:17:54 PM
Mickey Brennan is still playing at 30 something though?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on October 21, 2011, 04:18:47 PM
At least with johnston he was always there a lot of the time anyway.. Lyng left the panel before the championship when Keoghan was manager and did it when Carr was manager, good player but he seemed like a player that just felt like being there he could be called a county player.. Better off with players who want to play even if they are less limited than having players on the panel for the sake of it..
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on October 21, 2011, 05:11:11 PM
Are Ye saying the manager called them and told then they were too old?  :o sure that is stupid. Why not be honest with them. If you tell a lad he is not in due to form well at least he might try and address that. No one can make themselves younger
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on October 21, 2011, 06:00:21 PM
Quote from: BigMac on October 21, 2011, 04:02:28 PM
Lyng got the same call as well. Too old at 26.

It's not that they are too old. Obviously going with a 'new approach'. Whether it works out remains to be seen. Val will have a hell of a lot of explaining to do if it backfires, that is for sure.

Johnston and Lyng aren't the only 2 cut. That will come out in the next few days.

I'm not saying I agree with this decision but I do hope this makes Sean and Mickey better footballers. What doesn't kill you can only make you stronger.
And I hope I see them in a Cavan jersey again, firing on all cylinders.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on October 21, 2011, 06:00:54 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on October 21, 2011, 05:11:11 PM
Are Ye saying the manager called them and told then they were too old?  :o sure that is stupid. Why not be honest with them. If you tell a lad he is not in due to form well at least he might try and address that. No one can make themselves younger

Well our Val told Mickey Brennan before the Donegal game that he wasnt starting and the was unlucky not to be starting. When questioned why he was told that it was to do with age and he wanted to give youth a chance.

Now according to reports he is on the current panel which makes no sence while at 26/27 others are being told to stay at home.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on October 21, 2011, 06:15:02 PM
Quote from: tommysmith on October 21, 2011, 06:00:54 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on October 21, 2011, 05:11:11 PM
Are Ye saying the manager called them and told then they were too old?  :o sure that is stupid. Why not be honest with them. If you tell a lad he is not in due to form well at least he might try and address that. No one can make themselves younger

Well our Val told Mickey Brennan before the Donegal game that he wasnt starting and the was unlucky not to be starting. When questioned why he was told that it was to do with age and he wanted to give youth a chance.

Now according to reports he is on the current panel which makes no sence while at 26/27 others are being told to stay at home.

Why does it not make sense Tommy?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on October 21, 2011, 06:51:11 PM
Quote from: boojangles on October 21, 2011, 06:15:02 PM
Quote from: tommysmith on October 21, 2011, 06:00:54 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on October 21, 2011, 05:11:11 PM
Are Ye saying the manager called them and told then they were too old?  :o sure that is stupid. Why not be honest with them. If you tell a lad he is not in due to form well at least he might try and address that. No one can make themselves younger

Well our Val told Mickey Brennan before the Donegal game that he wasnt starting and the was unlucky not to be starting. When questioned why he was told that it was to do with age and he wanted to give youth a chance.

Now according to reports he is on the current panel which makes no sence while at 26/27 others are being told to stay at home.

Why does it not make sense Tommy?

Mickey is older and is still there.  If others are not called in cos of age why is he?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on October 21, 2011, 08:10:05 PM
Quote from: tommysmith on October 21, 2011, 06:51:11 PM
Quote from: boojangles on October 21, 2011, 06:15:02 PM
Quote from: tommysmith on October 21, 2011, 06:00:54 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on October 21, 2011, 05:11:11 PM
Are Ye saying the manager called them and told then they were too old?  :o sure that is stupid. Why not be honest with them. If you tell a lad he is not in due to form well at least he might try and address that. No one can make themselves younger

Well our Val told Mickey Brennan before the Donegal game that he wasnt starting and the was unlucky not to be starting. When questioned why he was told that it was to do with age and he wanted to give youth a chance.

Now according to reports he is on the current panel which makes no sence while at 26/27 others are being told to stay at home.

Why does it not make sense Tommy?

Mickey is older and is still there.  If others are not called in cos of age why is he?

Who said that they were not called in because of age?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on October 21, 2011, 08:49:14 PM
Quote from: boojangles on October 21, 2011, 08:10:05 PM
Quote from: tommysmith on October 21, 2011, 06:51:11 PM
Quote from: boojangles on October 21, 2011, 06:15:02 PM
Quote from: tommysmith on October 21, 2011, 06:00:54 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on October 21, 2011, 05:11:11 PM
Are Ye saying the manager called them and told then they were too old?  :o sure that is stupid. Why not be honest with them. If you tell a lad he is not in due to form well at least he might try and address that. No one can make themselves younger

Well our Val told Mickey Brennan before the Donegal game that he wasnt starting and the was unlucky not to be starting. When questioned why he was told that it was to do with age and he wanted to give youth a chance.

Now according to reports he is on the current panel which makes no sence while at 26/27 others are being told to stay at home.

Why does it not make sense Tommy?

Mickey is older and is still there.  If others are not called in cos of age why is he?

Who said that they were not called in because of age?

Bigmac  :D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Ollie on October 22, 2011, 01:22:42 AM
Come the start of the League both Johnston and Lyng will be on the panel. A couple of months away from football is what they both need.

Although I thought Lyng played well for the Gaels last weekend when he was positioned centre half forward.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BigMac on October 22, 2011, 12:56:37 PM
What I heard was that Val rang both Jelly and Lyng and told them they weren't being called into the panel this year as he was going with youth and lads that were playing college football. He probably didn't say "you're too old", but he might as well have. If that is the case, you wouldn't expect to see McKeever, Podge, Martin Cahill, Mickey Brennan, Keith Fannon, etc etc in there.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on October 22, 2011, 02:52:48 PM
I wouldn't be at all bothered about Lyng not being called in. He's walked out too many times for anyone to think that he really cares about the County, he was dire in the Championship last year and seems to be still living off his youthful potential.

Johnston is a different matter. A lot of people have claimed that he is a bad influence on the team because there will be a "just give it to Seanie" mentality. He's certainly no captain and his petulance on the field is frustrating.
But in fairness to him he has delivered for Cavan like no other player of his generation has. Apart from the America thing he has always been willing to play for Cavan when fit. There's no questioning that he is a terrific corner forward when on form.
If what BigMac says is true and Val wants to give youth a chance you'd have to assume he means the likes of McClarey, Declan McKiernan, Bud Fitz, Niall McDermott, Jack Brady. Do any of these lads have the potential to be as good as we know Johnston can be? I don't think so. I'd have him there and not play him because he was class in 2008, play him if he's one of the best 3 corner forwards at training.

Does anyone know people involved that could give an idea of the 20 odd players involved at this stage?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on October 22, 2011, 03:08:01 PM
Quote from: Westside on October 22, 2011, 02:52:48 PM
I wouldn't be at all bothered about Lyng not being called in. He's walked out too many times for anyone to think that he really cares about the County, he was dire in the Championship last year and seems to be still living off his youthful potential.

Johnston is a different matter. A lot of people have claimed that he is a bad influence on the team because there will be a "just give it to Seanie" mentality. He's certainly no captain and his petulance on the field is frustrating.
But in fairness to him he has delivered for Cavan like no other player of his generation has. Apart from the America thing he has always been willing to play for Cavan when fit. There's no questioning that he is a terrific corner forward when on form.
If what BigMac says is true and Val wants to give youth a chance you'd have to assume he means the likes of McClarey, Declan McKiernan, Bud Fitz, Niall McDermott, Jack Brady. Do any of these lads have the potential to be as good as we know Johnston can be? I don't think so. I'd have him there and not play him because he was class in 2008, play him if he's one of the best 3 corner forwards at training.

Does anyone know people involved that could give an idea of the 20 odd players involved at this stage?

Whens the last championship game Johnston played well in, apart from his super sub appearance against Wicklow? Lyng may be living on a reputation but I think to a lesser degree Johnston is too. He has been to easily snuffed out by opposition defences and when that happens he just throws in the towel. Like I said before, for me its a head problem and a spell away from the team may do him the world of good. Who is to say if those guys you mention will be as good as him, maybe they will be more effective than him. Eugene Keating and Niall McDermot were more effective in the last 2 championship games we played.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on October 22, 2011, 03:55:50 PM
I suppose his last good game before the Wicklow game was the Fermanagh game in 2009. Antrim concentrated on snuffing him out in the Ulster Semi that year and Hyland for Wickow did the same in the qualifiers. Johnston did the elbow in 2010 and was obviously affected by it. He scored 2 fantastic points from play against Fermanagh that year and while he didn't play to his best he was still a huge threat despite being out for the whole League, he won us the Wicklow game. The Cork game barely deserves a mention, nobody should be judged on that game. And in 2011 he was was terrible. Didn't get a kick against Donegal and was poor against Longford.
I would think it slightly harsh to say he's living off a reputation.. No other Cavan forward has given as much since Jayo and Larry went off the scene. I was the one who initially said I hope he'd be dropped if he didn't sort out his form but I think to not have him in there, from a purely footballing ability point of view, is a mistake. If some of those lads prove themselves more worthy of a starting place over the League and training so be it but making that call in October seems strange.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Breffni_Yank on October 22, 2011, 04:15:36 PM
From the sounds of these things it looks like we are only going to get worse. Any going that game today that could post a team?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on October 22, 2011, 04:55:20 PM
From some posters on Hoganstand, i know a lot of crap is said there but i believe these.

QuoteI was talking to an ex cavan player this morning.I asked him was his lad going to tog out with the Seniors this year.The answer i got was Val doesnt want him. I asked why .. and he said" hes committed but a bit gobby always asking questions.Val doesnt like that."
I asked were the players behind Val? Answer i got was no. the experienced players wont play for him so he has dropped them to make it look better, otherwise he would have a revolt on his hands. he cant afford that. he looking longterm here".
So there you go lads.

Quote
Same thing happened in Louth and he left them in a far worse state than he found them. Took them several years to get over the Val factor. I know many of the players of Val's era in Louth !!
Cavan going nowhere with this man !!

From a Louth poster.
QuoteVal Andrws did not help louth football, a lot of the seasoned players all ended up refusing to play for the man. Any player who questioned him was dropped.

I am glad that another county is suffering what we suffered, for he laid the blame in Louth about player not being committed, and not strong enough...it sound like he is doing the same with your seniors.

When he was appointed there were some Louth posters saying that he was a clown and didnt have a clue and i can see where they are coming from now. 
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on October 22, 2011, 05:29:56 PM
The County board should have went for Pete McGrath when they had the chance after Carr went.. Taking back Andrews was never going to work when it was the clubs that were opposed to him staying another year when he was manager in his first spell .

The county board made a stupid mistake with the sports agency getting Carr in as manager so decided they could rectify it by getting Andrews back- stupid mistake.. i honestly can't see Johnston playing for Cavan again once Andrews is still manager as Johnston doesn't seem the type waiting to be called back in..
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on October 23, 2011, 04:42:58 PM
Any word on any other results in Division 2? Denn gave Drumgoon a walkover and C'lough beat Drung, we beat Killinkere.  Any word on Drumalee and Swad?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on October 23, 2011, 05:59:26 PM
http://hoganstand.com/cavan/ArticleForm.aspx?ID=156894

Fitzsimons Cup: Armagh overcome Cavan
23 October 2011

(http://hoganstand.com/Common/NewGallery/AB4C4399.jpg)

Armagh 3-11
Cavan 1-16

Armagh overcame the challenge of Cavan in the Fitszimons Cup, a senior intercounty football competition organised by the Gaeil Colmcille club, at a wet Pairc Tailteann.

Mickey Brennan put Cavan on the scoreboard first and after ten minutes the Breffni men led 0-4 to 0-0. Armagh's opening score was a well taken goal from half foward Sean Moore. The accurate free taking of Cavan full foward Ray Galligan and some fine scores from Brennan and Niall McDermott insured that the led at the break 0-9 to 1-4.

Galligan put more daylight between the sides when he flicked a Dane O'Dowd pass to the Armagh net to leave the score 1-9 to 1-4. But Armagh battled hard to get back into the game and a goal from Eugene McVerry left the minimum between the sides.Points from half backs Mark Shields, Aidan Forker and Michael Stevenson brought Armagh to within a point again 2-8 to 1-12. A second goal from McVerry had Paddy O'Rourke's men ahead 3-8 to 1-13 with ten minutes left. A Galligan free levelled the match 1-14 to 3-8. But Armagh finished the stronger and points from Brian Mallon and substitutes Paul Carville and Conor White put the Orchard County men into the final where they will met Meath.

Armagh: Ryan Magennis, David Lavery, Declan McKenna, Adrian Conlon, Mark Shields (0-1), Aidan Forker (0-1), Michael Stevenson (0-1), James Donnelly, James Lavery, Pauric Gribben, Brian Mallon (0-1), Sean Moore (1-1), Eugene McVerry (2-0), Stefan Forker(0-3), Stefan Campbell.
Subs: Sean Hughes, Ryan Rafferty, Paul Carvill (0-2), Conor White (0-1)

Cavan: Fintan Reilly, Oisin Minagh, Sean McCormack, Daragh Tighe, Barry Watters, Joey Jordan, Dane O'Dowd, Ray Cullivan, Declan McKiernan, Stephen Jordan, Declan Meehan, Michael Brennan (0-3), Niall McDermott (0-2), Ray Galligan (1-10), Conor McClarry (0-1).
Subs: Barry Tully and Kieran Galligan

Referee Joey Curley Meath
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on October 23, 2011, 06:39:07 PM
1-10 for galligan is some score. I seem to remember him doing well pre season a couple of years ago but fell away come the business end of the season
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: PhilsJemmysField on October 24, 2011, 09:46:36 AM
Div 2

Apparently Swad gave Drumalee the points, the gaels and knocks spent the day together in Canningstown building up inter club relations because knocks pitch was not playable. Apparently county board was trying t make them go t 3G pitch. BBoro beat shercock who barely put a team out. The last round basically made a mockery of the league but there you go. At least us lads up in kkere put a team out for you Cootehill lads t run round.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on October 24, 2011, 02:35:57 PM
How come the div2 league isn't finished at this stage,. still to play semis and final, div3 is the same too.. Were Drumalee and Drumgoon the two teams promoted?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on October 24, 2011, 03:26:03 PM
Drumalee and Drumgoon were promoted - Both actually secured their promotion with walk overs  :-\  Not their fault I know but...

Think that leaves ourselves v Drumalee and Goonies v Crosserlough in semi-finals
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on October 26, 2011, 03:12:05 PM
I see from Twitter that Val has it out at "faceless critics" Anyone able to give a run down on what he says? I wont get to see the Celt this week. Hardly in connection to the Hoganstand lads campaign against him?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dougal on October 26, 2011, 03:25:08 PM
basically said HS should be shut down (cant disagree with him there,although for different reasons).he said he thinks alot of the stuff is coming from within the panel or from people close to the panel,stuff like seanie being a primadonna and disagreements between players and management.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on October 26, 2011, 06:43:20 PM
If it were shut down they would all end up here. Keep it open I say.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on October 26, 2011, 07:17:13 PM
It's a disgrace of a website. I have posted several times, fairly logical balanced posts usually in defence of Andrews and the County boards, and they don't get published. Yet somehow the insanely biased stuff posted by sheva7 and richiej gets through. You'd nearly think the mods had something against Val.

Also calling for it to be shut down is strange. Sort out the happiness within the panel and there won't be an issue with inside info being published.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on October 26, 2011, 07:47:04 PM
One of the u21 players going under the name "kingpike" was fairly critical of the senior managment and said he was happy he was not involved with- this was after the Donegal game.. Basically saying that he heard from felloew u21 players it wasn't a happy camp etc and was glad he wasn't on the panel.. i doubt Andrews would have been inpressed with that either.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on October 26, 2011, 08:00:02 PM
looked at hoganstand today for first time in a while and Richiej is a lot more vocal than on here. Himself and sean o rinn run the rule on thier.. Sean O Rinn for a man suppose to be 'in the know' about the county panel hasn't a clue in my opinion.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on October 26, 2011, 08:20:52 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on October 26, 2011, 07:47:04 PM
One of the u21 players going under the name "kingpike" was fairly critical of the senior managment and said he was happy he was not involved with- this was after the Donegal game.. Basically saying that he heard from felloew u21 players it wasn't a happy camp etc and was glad he wasn't on the panel.. i doubt Andrews would have been inpressed with that either.


Long and all as I'm gone out of the county and I still don't have too much trouble working out who Kingpike is. Poor aul Richiej, he's never happier than when he's on the topic of the woes of Cavan football. He went missing during the period of Minor and Under 21 success earlier in the year. Sure it takes all sorts I suppose.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on October 26, 2011, 08:49:08 PM
What is the opinon of Andrews on here now?

I will start by saying i dont think he is the man to take us forward and i dont have much faith in him.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on October 26, 2011, 09:08:33 PM
Kingpike didn't try to hard to hide his identity.. The same lad tweeted "Not half solid #Val" a few days ago. It's bad form. He should say nothing.

Personally I don't think Val is what Cavan need, I thought we needed a strong character. I know it's cliched but, a McGeeney type. However, he has been appointed and deserves his chance. The county board have their plan and need to be allowed implement it as they see fit. If that involves Val Andrews then we must trust that decision. I believe he is there for love of the game and not for his pocket, he has a genuine love for Cavan football, which I like.

Some of the abuse he has received, particularly on the Hoganstand, is a disgrace. People suggesting that he didn't implement the U-21s gameplan against Donegal in the Seniors because he was afraid Hyland would get the credit!! Shocking accusations.
We need to see improvement this year though. No miracles but signs we are heading in the right direction. A comfortable stay in Division 3, competitiveness against Donegal and a win or a good show in the qualifier first round is the least he needs to produce in order to get a 3rd year.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on October 27, 2011, 12:13:13 AM
Quote from: Westside on October 26, 2011, 09:08:33 PM
Kingpike didn't try to hard to hide his identity.. The same lad tweeted "Not half solid #Val" a few days ago. It's bad form. He should say nothing.

Personally I don't think Val is what Cavan need, I thought we needed a strong character. I know it's cliched but, a McGeeney type. However, he has been appointed and deserves his chance. The county board have their plan and need to be allowed implement it as they see fit. If that involves Val Andrews then we must trust that decision. I believe he is there for love of the game and not for his pocket, he has a genuine love for Cavan football, which I like.

Some of the abuse he has received, particularly on the Hoganstand, is a disgrace. People suggesting that he didn't implement the U-21s gameplan against Donegal in the Seniors because he was afraid Hyland would get the credit!! Shocking accusations.
We need to see improvement this year though. No miracles but signs we are heading in the right direction. A comfortable stay in Division 3, competitiveness against Donegal and a win or a good show in the qualifier first round is the least he needs to produce in order to get a 3rd year.

Shoot me a PM as to who Kingpike is will ya westside?

I agree with all that,except for the comfortable stay in division 3 part.
Promotion to Division 2 should be one of the main goals for next year,To expect them to step-up and compete with  the likes of Donegal/Tyrone/Derry etc in the Ulster championship after playing the whole spring against lower league,poorer quality opposition  is a bit much  to ask what will this young(albeit talented) group of players.
They need to get up and start competing in Division 2.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on October 27, 2011, 11:22:49 AM
One of the u21 players did an interview with Gaelic Life around a month ago or more , Put 2 and 2 together and it sounded very much like Kingpike but i could be wrong.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on October 27, 2011, 12:28:03 PM
Promotion to Division 2 would be exceptional for a group of lads a lot of whom will be in their 1st and 2nd years of Senior football.
I just don't think it's a realistic ambition at this stage. Get to grips this year, let the lads gain some experience and next year go all out for Division 2. I would be delighted if they surprised me and got the points together and they need to be there asap I agree, but I personally would be more than happy going into the last game knowing we were relatively safe from demotion.

Perhaps Val is listening to this stuff about the dressing room being split between U-21s and the rest and is now trying to let that U21 bond and spirit be the dominant force, even if that means outing Jelly and Co...? 
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on October 27, 2011, 01:56:20 PM
Quote from: Westside on October 27, 2011, 12:28:03 PM
Promotion to Division 2 would be exceptional for a group of lads a lot of whom will be in their 1st and 2nd years of Senior football.
I just don't think it's a realistic ambition at this stage. Get to grips this year, let the lads gain some experience and next year go all out for Division 2. I would be delighted if they surprised me and got the points together and they need to be there asap I agree, but I personally would be more than happy going into the last game knowing we were relatively safe from demotion.

Perhaps Val is listening to this stuff about the dressing room being split between U-21s and the rest and is now trying to let that U21 bond and spirit be the dominant force, even if that means outing Jelly and Co...?

I agree with a lot of that. I think given our 1st game is away to Wexford and we badly need a good start. Problem is that is unlikely.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on October 29, 2011, 06:43:19 PM
Cavan playing Louth at the moment. Starting team is:
FReilly. DO'Dowd. SMcCormack. MClarke. BWatters. JJordan. RM--Derham. TCorr. GMcKiernan .SJordan. DMeehan. DGivney. CMcClarey .RCullivan. RGalligan

Keating, Smith, Kevin Meehan all on so far. 15 minutes left Cavan up by 1.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tierworker blue on October 30, 2011, 06:08:16 PM
Quote from: Westside on October 29, 2011, 06:43:19 PM
Cavan playing Louth at the moment. Starting team is:
FReilly. DO'Dowd. SMcCormack. MClarke. BWatters. JJordan. RM--Derham. TCorr. GMcKiernan .SJordan. DMeehan. DGivney. CMcClarey .RCullivan. RGalligan

Keating, Smith, Kevin Meehan all on so far. 15 minutes left Cavan up by 1.

Any FT result for this Westside? I did'nt make the match and hav'nt heard anything about it (been off the radar all w'end!)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tomsmith on October 30, 2011, 07:19:06 PM
I was wondering with all the unrest in Cavan over Internet posting would now be the time to invite Donal back. Donal would have no problem with lads posting on the Internet . They biggest problem
Val has is getting commitment from our wonderful Gaels club situated in the county capital. Donal I feel could step in for a short while until things were more stable.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tomsmith on October 30, 2011, 07:36:41 PM
It's time now to forget about the clipboard men and the diet sheets. Get back to playing old fashioned Cavan football. Donal if asked would only be too willing to help as he has blue blood in his veins. Even the Merc men who frequent the park lane will tell you that Donal should still be at the helm. We sent Carr on the Dublin express. Nows Vals time to get that bus too. I feel and so do alot of good footballing men around the town that Donals presence in Navan last night was the first step to Cavans revival. Out with the clipboard men I say.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on October 30, 2011, 07:41:16 PM
Quote from: tierworker blue on October 30, 2011, 06:08:16 PM
Quote from: Westside on October 29, 2011, 06:43:19 PM
Cavan playing Louth at the moment. Starting team is:
FReilly. DO'Dowd. SMcCormack. MClarke. BWatters. JJordan. RM--Derham. TCorr. GMcKiernan .SJordan. DMeehan. DGivney. CMcClarey .RCullivan. RGalligan

Keating, Smith, Kevin Meehan all on so far. 15 minutes left Cavan up by 1.

Any FT result for this Westside? I did'nt make the match and hav'nt heard anything about it (been off the radar all w'end!)

Cavan won by a point. I think it was a case of "next score wins" because it was a draw after full time and the second game could not be delayed. Cavan got the score and won. I've heard good things in terms of the intensity and effort showed by Cavan. Anyone know who the corner back M Clarke is?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tomsmith on October 30, 2011, 07:46:44 PM
Does anybody think that maybe a change in players eating and drinking habits has affected how we perform in big matches. Out has gone the big fryups on the morning of a match to be replaced by pasta and fish and chicken and rice. Maybe the lads are half starved as they take the pitch ,and as my auld neighbour go rest him use to say ya can't perform on an empty belly. The drink types have changed too. Lads use to have 5 or 6 pints of smithwicks the night before a game to make them sleep but nowadays it's Bacardi breezers and aftershocks . Donal being in the licensing trade in our town once said the top shelf is what wrecked Cavan football. And I think he wasn't far wrong.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanforever on October 30, 2011, 08:17:48 PM
tomsmith you couldnt just remain on hoganstand could you??
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on October 30, 2011, 08:22:16 PM
For the integrity of the board I would suggest an ignore the windup merchant approach would soon result in boredom kicking in and a return to a place where people will give him the attention he desires.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tierworker blue on October 30, 2011, 08:29:50 PM
Quote from: Westside on October 30, 2011, 07:41:16 PM
Quote from: tierworker blue on October 30, 2011, 06:08:16 PM
Quote from: Westside on October 29, 2011, 06:43:19 PM
Cavan playing Louth at the moment. Starting team is:
FReilly. DO'Dowd. SMcCormack. MClarke. BWatters. JJordan. RM--Derham. TCorr. GMcKiernan .SJordan. DMeehan. DGivney. CMcClarey .RCullivan. RGalligan

Keating, Smith, Kevin Meehan all on so far. 15 minutes left Cavan up by 1.

Any FT result for this Westside? I did'nt make the match and hav'nt heard anything about it (been off the radar all w'end!)

Cavan won by a point. I think it was a case of "next score wins" because it was a draw after full time and the second game could not be delayed. Cavan got the score and won. I've heard good things in terms of the intensity and effort showed by Cavan. Anyone know who the corner back M Clarke is?

Cheers for that horse.
Title: Re: Best club pitch in county
Post by: tomsmith on October 30, 2011, 09:09:21 PM
Has to be Terry Coyle park. It reminds me of the crucible in Sheffield UK on a may day.
Title: where are they now?
Post by: tomsmith on October 30, 2011, 09:23:43 PM
Can we have a GAA section concerning where are they now for GAA men.
Take the the famous Red Collier, Mick Lyones , the Iron man from Rhode our own Ollie Leddy, Ciaran O Keeffe, Jim Reilly. Sure you could go on and on former team mangers could have a section like Gabriel Kelly.
I think it would make for great discussion.
What do you think?
Title: Re: Ulster minor football championship final
Post by: tomsmith on October 30, 2011, 09:58:18 PM
I know Donal was minor manager back in 2005 and will be credited with some of the praises sung by people with redard to this years minor win. We have the Gaels too the kinpins of minor football. congrats to all involved and we thank you Donal for starting this minor revival back in 2005
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on October 31, 2011, 11:07:01 AM
Quote from: Westside on October 30, 2011, 07:41:16 PM
Quote from: tierworker blue on October 30, 2011, 06:08:16 PM
Quote from: Westside on October 29, 2011, 06:43:19 PM
Cavan playing Louth at the moment. Starting team is:
FReilly. DO'Dowd. SMcCormack. MClarke. BWatters. JJordan. RM--Derham. TCorr. GMcKiernan .SJordan. DMeehan. DGivney. CMcClarey .RCullivan. RGalligan

Keating, Smith, Kevin Meehan all on so far. 15 minutes left Cavan up by 1.

Any FT result for this Westside? I did'nt make the match and hav'nt heard anything about it (been off the radar all w'end!)

Cavan won by a point. I think it was a case of "next score wins" because it was a draw after full time and the second game could not be delayed. Cavan got the score and won. I've heard good things in terms of the intensity and effort showed by Cavan. Anyone know who the corner back M Clarke is?

I'd hazard a guess that it is Michael Clarke from Knockbride. They call him Sticky. Usually plays Centre-half for them. Fast and fit he's worth a run.
Title: Re: where are they now?
Post by: boojangles on October 31, 2011, 11:09:30 AM
Ollie Leddy was in the stand in St Phelims Park Drumalee yesterday. Runs a pig farm I believe.
Ciaran O Keefe lives in Sligo.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on October 31, 2011, 11:55:22 AM
Good to see Barry Watters back playing with the county. He missed out on the u21s reaching the Ulster Final as he was in the Far East on work placement from DCU. He would have been a key player on that team.. What other players were dropped from the panel after Lyng, Johnston and Sheridan? No sign of Mackey or Mckeever.. Nicholas Walsh will definitely not be playing club or county next year thats certain anyway,. back in oz working with a newly fomed AFL side called Sydney Celts with the support staff doing strength and conditioning work.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tierworker blue on October 31, 2011, 12:59:46 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on October 31, 2011, 11:55:22 AM
Good to see Barry Watters back playing with the county. He missed out on the u21s reaching the Ulster Final as he was in the Far East on work placement from DCU. He would have been a key player on that team.. What other players were dropped from the panel after Lyng, Johnston and Sheridan? No sign of Mackey or Mckeever.. Nicholas Walsh will definitely not be playing club or county next year thats certain anyway,. back in oz working with a newly fomed AFL side called Sydney Celts with the support staff doing strength and conditioning work.

Yep, this was in the Indo yesterday, for those who did'nt see it...
http://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-football/giants-step-allowing-walsh-to-make-great-leap-forward-2921029.html
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on October 31, 2011, 02:19:25 PM
Quote from: tierworker blue on October 31, 2011, 12:59:46 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on October 31, 2011, 11:55:22 AM
Good to see Barry Watters back playing with the county. He missed out on the u21s reaching the Ulster Final as he was in the Far East on work placement from DCU. He would have been a key player on that team.. What other players were dropped from the panel after Lyng, Johnston and Sheridan? No sign of Mackey or Mckeever.. Nicholas Walsh will definitely not be playing club or county next year thats certain anyway,. back in oz working with a newly fomed AFL side called Sydney Celts with the support staff doing strength and conditioning work.

Yep, this was in the Indo yesterday, for those who did'nt see it...
http://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-football/giants-step-allowing-walsh-to-make-great-leap-forward-2921029.html

A great organiser. Best of luck to him.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanforever on October 31, 2011, 09:09:01 PM
anyone at the u21 club games? anyone perform well that could be worth a place on the u21 squad
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on October 31, 2011, 09:36:27 PM
Quote from: cavanforever on October 31, 2011, 09:09:01 PM
anyone at the u21 club games? anyone perform well that could be worth a place on the u21 squad

From my own club Jimmy Fallon is definitely worth a trial. He was on Oisin Minagh yesterday and while Oisin played well, Jimmy also stood out.
Cian Byrne impressed also but may be a bit young.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on October 31, 2011, 10:39:19 PM
Connor Finnegan was decent for Newtown Gaels, he scored 2-2.. needs to get fitter though. Barry Doyle was very good at centre back aswell for Newtown. Both worth a look for the u21s.

Bigger test against Cavan Gaels in the next round though, as Erne Gaels weren't up too much..
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on November 02, 2011, 05:40:40 PM
I see there is some backlash to Vals outburst in the celt last week.

A few lads were busy sending emails to the celt.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on November 02, 2011, 06:37:06 PM
Sure wasn't the sports editor of the celt once a "faceless" poster on here. If this is what occupies Val Andrews then all hope is lost.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on November 02, 2011, 07:38:59 PM
If he had any brains he wouldn't be reading that site anyway, but to come out with an outburst about it makes him look a bigger clown.

As for our poster RichieJ if you were going to send in that you could have put your name to it the same as the other lad who wrote in as when val was using the term faceless thats exaclty what he was getting at.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on November 02, 2011, 07:42:20 PM
What mystifies me is this. When did people start thinking that just because we are from Cavan and pay into games that we have a right to know the internal workings of the panel? We have lads on HS demanding to know why certain players are and are not on the panel..?!

Yes we have the right to expect that things are run correctly and vote with our feet if we don't like how things are going and we can vote on matters through our clubs. I don't see how people think Val is required to come out and explain his decisions on choice of panel, especially this early in the year. He is managing a county football team, he deserves a certain amount of independence and confidence in that role. He is not and should not be a lackey that has to run back explaining his decisions to some of the know it all supporters in Cavan.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on November 02, 2011, 07:48:20 PM
Quote from: Westside on November 02, 2011, 07:42:20 PM
What mystifies me is this. When did people start thinking that just because we are from Cavan and pay into games that we have a right to know the internal workings of the panel? We have lads on HS demanding to know why certain players are and are not on the panel..?!

Yes we have the right to expect that things are run correctly and vote with our feet if we don't like how things are going and we can vote on matters through our clubs. I don't see how people think Val is required to come out and explain his decisions on choice of panel, especially this early in the year. He is managing a county football team, he deserves a certain amount of independence and confidence in that role. He is not and should not be a lackey that has to run back explaining his decisions to some of the know it all supporters in Cavan.

Very good point.  It's November and lads are crying because they dont know who is on the panel.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tomsmith on November 02, 2011, 08:36:07 PM
Well why doesn't Val explain to the players he left off how that at 26/27 they could be too old. And what would be the point in bringing these players back in around march time with any strength and conditioning work done. Is it not normal to have a big panel now and trim it in spring. Or are Cavan different? Do we increase our panel as we go along. Oh we are not scoring let's bring Johnston back mid way through the league. Would he come back? Would he be missed if he didn't?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tomsmith on November 02, 2011, 08:49:32 PM
Low them or hate them but there is one club in the county 10 times better than any of the rest on their day. If right was right Meehan e Reilly Maloney Derham would be the half back line on the county team. S Reilly would be at midfield. Johnstone , Murray and smith in the forwards. That's 7 players that should be on the county team.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on November 02, 2011, 09:34:58 PM
Sean Reilly is a very average player, he makes the odd good catch but on the ball he is nothing special.. Givney and Mckiernan are the two best options at midfield, Eugene Keating can play there aswell. Murray Smith Maloney and Meehan are all on the panel so i don't know what your on about tom. Besides Sean Reilly refused to go into the panel in the past as did Eamon Reilly so fck them.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on November 02, 2011, 09:46:29 PM
Has Val actually told members of last years panel that they are dropped because they are to old ?

I dont see how he can when there are lads in their 30's still there.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on November 02, 2011, 10:10:19 PM
I think Val trimming the panel is also based on attitude. It brings a team a long long way in county football. Perhaps any older heads in there are the ones that are reliable and really do bust a gut. Lads like Brennan. A poster on the HS spoke at length about how our U21s will be tainted by the attitude revolving around our panel in recent years and he had a point. Perhaps Val is keeping some older heads just to keep a small base of experience and hope the U21 mentality will prevail... (although that wouldn't explain the absence of McCutcheon..)

Anyone on twitter follow any of the players?? Hannon telling O'Dowd that playing corner back is the quickest way to IC retirement.. Seems O'Dowd isn't that happy playing in the corner, although he didn't say that outright.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on November 02, 2011, 10:15:37 PM
Quote from: Westside on November 02, 2011, 10:10:19 PM
I think Val trimming the panel is also based on attitude. It brings a team a long long way in county football. Perhaps any older heads in there are the ones that are reliable and really do bust a gut. Lads like Brennan. A poster on the HS spoke at length about how our U21s will be tainted by the attitude revolving around our panel in recent years and he had a point. Perhaps Val is keeping some older heads just to keep a small base of experience and hope the U21 mentality will prevail... (although that wouldn't explain the absence of McCutcheon..)

Anyone on twitter follow any of the players?? Hannon telling O'Dowd that playing corner back is the quickest way to IC retirement.. Seems O'Dowd isn't that happy playing in the corner, although he
didn't say that outright.

As far as I know Mc Cutcheon is still on the panel. He has been struggling with injury lately. Hannon is probably right. Corner back Is a specialised position where we need  dirty f***ers who have damn all interest in playing football ala Ryan Mc Menamin.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on November 02, 2011, 10:31:27 PM
Oh right. I know nothing of the panel other that rumours, read that on the HS I should have known better. Good to hear it he's a decent player. Our best player v Donegal and did well against Longford before coming off..
O'Dowd isn't a corner back.. But who on the Cavan panel is? Perhaps Minagh.. Tighe wasn't great in the U-21 campaign and looked better last year. Who else can you conceivably stick in there?
Conor Smith from Killeshandra should be groomed for the position! A great lad.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on November 02, 2011, 10:43:31 PM
I would use twitter but following Cavan players wouldn't be how i would follow, hear enough about them on here  :)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on November 02, 2011, 11:32:45 PM
Quote from: Westside on November 02, 2011, 10:31:27 PM
Oh right. I know nothing of the panel other that rumours, read that on the HS I should have known better. Good to hear it he's a decent player. Our best player v Donegal and did well against Longford before coming off..
O'Dowd isn't a corner back.. But who on the Cavan panel is? Perhaps Minagh.. Tighe wasn't great in the U-21 campaign and looked better last year. Who else can you conceivably stick in there?
Conor Smith from Killeshandra should be groomed for the position! A great lad.

Darragh tighe had a injury problem last year which probably affected his performances. His size could be his biggest problem but he is a natural corner back.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on November 02, 2011, 11:46:23 PM
I thought he looked very good in 2010.. Notably our best in the Ulster Final against Donegal that year but got roasted badly in the Ulster and AI Finals this year. It looks like he could be put in there for us this year, hopefully he can grow into the role.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on November 03, 2011, 10:12:34 AM
Quote from: Westside on November 02, 2011, 10:10:19 PM
I think Val trimming the panel is also based on attitude. It brings a team a long long way in county football. Perhaps any older heads in there are the ones that are reliable and really do bust a gut. Lads like Brennan.

I actually would agree with that if trouble makers and boozers were weeded out and a few older lads who show a good example are kept.

Last year was a disgrace with a lad leaving the panel to drink on rag week being brought back and drinking two weeks before the Donegal game and still getting playing. It no wonder the U21's were may have been unhappy.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on November 03, 2011, 11:27:53 AM
That same player missed a freshers championship final with DIT 2 years ago as he went down to sligo for rag.. I think football comes second when there is a party on with him ::) He is a decent player though not sure if he is involved with the panel at the minute.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on November 03, 2011, 12:18:37 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on November 03, 2011, 11:27:53 AM
That same player missed a freshers championship final with DIT 2 years ago as he went down to sligo for rag.. I think football comes second when there is a party on with him ::) He is a decent player though not sure if he is involved with the panel at the minute.

I would hope not.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: PhilsJemmysField on November 04, 2011, 02:12:49 PM
McCutcheon was still on the panel a couple of weeks ago was chatting him and he said he was. Was expecting a "big" clean out on last year. Has an injury at the moment
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on November 04, 2011, 04:43:19 PM
There is a Martin Cahill fella from St Brigids who is eligible to play with Cavan.. He has been playing very well for them this season. They are playing Nesty Smiths Oliver Plunketts in the Dublin Senior final on sunday.. I think Cahill might have been asked for trials before but there i think there was something about the transfer to play county football and it didn't go through. Anyone know if Nesty is still on the panel, he should have been starting the game against Donegal..
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Ollie on November 04, 2011, 09:20:15 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on November 04, 2011, 04:43:19 PM
There is a Martin Cahill fella from St Brigids who is eligible to play with Cavan.. He has been playing very well for them this season. They are playing Nesty Smiths Oliver Plunketts in the Dublin Senior final on sunday.. I think Cahill might have been asked for trials before but there i think there was something about the transfer to play county football and it didn't go through. Anyone know if Nesty is still on the panel, he should have been starting the game against Donegal..

I never really rated Nesty myself. There's enough good footballers coming through at minor and Under 21 level for us to be scouring the Dublin championship looking for players with Cavan parents.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on November 05, 2011, 05:33:14 PM
We do have to look in Dublin for players mostly because players from the best club team in Cavan have decided not to play for their county. Then you have a player like nesty, based in Dublin, who puts more effort into it than these gaels players. Nesty was and is a very good player for Cavan.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tierworker blue on November 05, 2011, 08:40:13 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on November 05, 2011, 05:33:14 PM
We do have to look in Dublin for players mostly because players from the best club team in Cavan have decided not to play for their county. Then you have a player like nesty, based in Dublin, who puts more effort into it than these gaels players. Nesty was and is a very good player for Cavan.

+1. Nesty was asked to play for Cavan and he stepped up to the plate. Imo a very good player and a big addition to the team.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Ollie on November 05, 2011, 10:29:52 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on November 05, 2011, 05:33:14 PM
We do have to look in Dublin for players mostly because players from the best club team in Cavan have decided not to play for their county. Then you have a player like nesty, based in Dublin, who puts more effort into it than these gaels players. Nesty was and is a very good player for Cavan.

Nesty is a good footballer but not up to county standard. Five Gaels players were involved in the win against Louth in the Fitzsimons cup so they can hardly be accused of not putting the effort in.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on November 06, 2011, 12:17:03 PM
Quote from: Ollie on November 05, 2011, 10:29:52 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on November 05, 2011, 05:33:14 PM
We do have to look in Dublin for players mostly because players from the best club team in Cavan have decided not to play for their county. Then you have a player like nesty, based in Dublin, who puts more effort into it than these gaels players. Nesty was and is a very good player for Cavan.

Nesty is a good footballer but not up to county standard. Five Gaels players were involved in the win against Louth in the Fitzsimons cup so they can hardly be accused of not putting the effort in.

There may have been 5 but these are all (or mostly) lads coming up from U21s. Last year and the year before certain players refused to put on the Cavan jersey. Nesty was willing to and he put in the work and played well in a central role. Its a bit ridiculous to suggest casting him aside now should be his reward for that because we have some quality U21s coming through. A senior team of U21s alone will win nothing, in fact they would get hammered by any county team. You need some experience, muscle and know how around the field. Granted, the lads that are kept on the panel have to be willing to put it in.
I don't know what went on in the panel last year but maybe Andrews just reckons some of the lads were more trouble than they are worth so he hasn't invited them back. If that is the case I'd support his omission of those players no matter how good they were. If he omitting players because they are too "old", well that would be plain stupid and I'd find that very hard to believe.
If I were a gambling man I would suggest that the idea is to get a group of players with no  negative baggage that Morrison can work his psychology on to try and breed belief into it. If the camp morale was as bad as some suggested last year well they were bet before the ball was thrown in. To have a positive set-up you can't have whingers and moaners on the panel nor half arsed boys that want the bag and the tracksuit.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on November 06, 2011, 03:51:28 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on November 06, 2011, 12:17:03 PM
I don't know what went on in the panel last year but maybe Andrews just reckons some of the lads were more trouble than they are worth so he hasn't invited them back. If that is the case I'd support his omission of those players no matter how good they were. If he omitting players because they are too "old", well that would be plain stupid and I'd find that very hard to believe.
If I were a gambling man I would suggest that the idea is to get a group of players with no  negative baggage that Morrison can work his psychology on to try and breed belief into it. If the camp morale was as bad as some suggested last year well they were bet before the ball was thrown in. To have a positive set-up you can't have whingers and moaners on the panel nor half arsed boys that want the bag and the tracksuit.

Good post myles. In our many boardly ruminations over the years about the county team and the attitude of some of those that comprise it, we suggested that the only real way forward might be a de facto disbandment of the county panel followed by a new beginning involving only the players who are willing to apply themselves to the standards required of being a proper intercounty footballer in the modern era. I don't know if that's what's happening here but if so, I welcome it.
I'd take two, even three seasons of struggling to get up to speed with a raw young squad peppered with a few old hands, over persisting with the same old faces who time and time again have failed and shamed the jersey with some of the cartoonish shitehawking that has gone on. We're going nowhere with players like that on board dragging the thing down for everyone and the evidence of the last few seasons show we're in a hurry to get there as well. So by all means, clear the decks. If nothing else we could all at least get behind lads representing us on the field who we can believe have Cavan in their hearts and are giving it a fair crack, instead of the other shapers who have of course made contributions in their own way but sadly do not have the requisite determination or commitment. That's a real foundation on which to build and a platform to move forward with, and possibly what the county board meant when it announced its five year plan.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: PhilsJemmysField on November 07, 2011, 09:33:52 AM
Was at a cracking U21 game between 4 clubs on Sunday which shows that amalgamations may well be the way forward. Lavey Killinkere vs Ramor Munchies. The number 11 chap for Ramor was excellent. Jack Brady showed well. Lavey combo where Chris Conroy was excellent. Also we do a bit of moaning here about refs Mickey Lee let it flow with a fair share of hits going in. Good strong hard physical game of football. Any word from the other games
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: CC1 on November 07, 2011, 10:31:44 AM
Desperately disappointed after our game yesterday, we just never got going really and should really have kicked on after our goal. Things just didn't go well for us on the day and fair play to Cremartin their purple patch at the start of the second half made the difference. Good team and physically very strong, I reckon they can win it out if they take their chances in front of goal instead of looking to get goals all of the time.

Great year for us, and I'm delighted that we got the medal that we all wanted for years. Hopefully we can build on it from next year. Great to see two of the lads getting three major medals this year also, a Ulster Minor medal, Junior Championship and Minor Championship isn't a bad haul. Hopefully they along with the rest of the lads can do well in the u21 and Ulster Minor Club Championship too.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on November 07, 2011, 11:00:05 AM
Quote from: PhilsJemmysField on November 07, 2011, 09:33:52 AM
Was at a cracking U21 game between 4 clubs on Sunday which shows that amalgamations may well be the way forward. Lavey Killinkere vs Ramor Munchies. The number 11 chap for Ramor was excellent. Jack Brady showed well. Lavey combo where Chris Conroy was excellent. Also we do a bit of moaning here about refs Mickey Lee let it flow with a fair share of hits going in. Good strong hard physical game of football. Any word from the other games

Was there myself. Great game of football. Amalgamations have definitely improved the standard overall. Fair play to Assan Gaels, they deserved their win.
Newtown Gaels beat Cavan Gaels.
St Joes beat Redbridge.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on November 09, 2011, 12:18:34 PM
Johnston amongst six axed from Cavan panel
09 November 2011

Sean Johnston has been dropped from the Cavan squad by team manager Val Andrews.Cavan manager Val Andrews has sensationally dropped star forward Sean Johnston from his squad in a move which has rocked the Breffni County.

Andrews, who was joint-manager along with Terry Hyland last season, has assumed full control for next season and has left Johnston out of his plans for 2012, while two-time All Star nominee goalkeeper James Reilly has also been cut from last year's panel.

Johnston's Cavan Gaels clubmate Michael Lyng is another big name which joins the list of omissions, as do Cian Mackey, Dermot Sheridan and Dublin native Gareth 'Nesty Smith, who was brought in by Tommy Carr in 2010 and played in St Oliver Plunketts' Dublin SFC final defeat to St Brigid's last weekend.

While the latter three had struggled to nail down a regular place in the team in 2011, Johnston's exclusion from the squad comes as a major shock, as does the omission of Drung net-minder Reilly, who has proved a hero for Cavan so many times in the past.

All six players were told in individual phone calls by members of the team management that their services were not required next year.

Confirmation at last.. And the wording of the article would suggest that this was released to answer the HS crowd.
The exclusions themselves are interesting if nothing else. We can't sink much further (unless we hit Div 4 of course) so at least this might answer some of the questions about commitment and bad influences in the panel.

Who is our sub goalkeeper if Fintan is now No. 1?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanforever on November 09, 2011, 12:43:35 PM
at present i believe finatan reilly and jamie leahy from castlerahan are the only 2 keepers on the panel. surely o mara will be number 1 come league and championship if james reilly is not in vals plans
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on November 09, 2011, 12:56:35 PM
I wouldn't be so sure about that.. He's playing with his college I think so if he was going to be on the panel I'd imagine he'd be there already..
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on November 09, 2011, 01:01:56 PM
Thats strange enough James Reilly had been part of the training panel along with Fintain and omara.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on November 09, 2011, 01:06:49 PM
O Mara is a much better keeper than both Fintan Reily and Jamie Leahy.
The number 1 jersey will be his to lose.
Im suprised at Nesty being excluded, he was injured for much of 2011, and probably was our best player overall in 2010 in his debut year.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on November 09, 2011, 01:16:03 PM
O'Mara is prone to the odd clanger but that should improve with experience. Anyone know if McKeever was left out?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on November 09, 2011, 03:55:21 PM
I would doubt Mckeever is dropped aswell.. He is problay the hardest working player on the panel.. He was dropped for some reason for the Donegal game but was probaly the best player Cavan had against Longford.. He is a class act, anyone who saw the 2 relegation games between Gowna-Lacken would agree it was mainly him that got them through. I was surprised to see Nesty dropped.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: PhilsJemmysField on November 09, 2011, 06:12:02 PM
If it works he is a genius. He is the manager he is making the big call. I hope it works and I hope we all give it the time to work.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on November 09, 2011, 06:57:38 PM
Someone on HS saying that the Gaels Players on the panel, A Drung player and a Swad player (Watters and Gearoid presumably) are to leave the panel due to the 6 day a week training regime. I sincerely hope this isn't true. If it is, this won't end well.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on November 09, 2011, 07:39:34 PM
So has a panel been announced or has there just been a statement released of certain people who are not on the panel. Is that announcement official or what. What other counties have named a panel at this stage of the year, just as we go into the inter county training ban period. All very curious.


There are some serious doses posting over on Hogan Stand on the topic, god help us if announcements are being made to placate that lot.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on November 09, 2011, 08:03:40 PM
It is mainly the same 3 or 4 that be at it.. Going by Sean o Rinn we are all set for div 2 so the future is bright  :-X
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on November 09, 2011, 09:00:01 PM
Quote from: anglocelt39 on November 09, 2011, 07:39:34 PM
So has a panel been announced or has there just been a statement released of certain people who are not on the panel. Is that announcement official or what. What other counties have named a panel at this stage of the year, just as we go into the inter county training ban period. All very curious.


There are some serious doses posting over on Hogan Stand on the topic, god help us if announcements are being made to placate that lot.

It was just in the star newspaper it not offical and it is wrong because miller is still training with them.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on November 10, 2011, 01:38:27 PM
Quote from: Westside on November 09, 2011, 06:57:38 PM
Someone on HS saying that the Gaels Players on the panel, A Drung player and a Swad player (Watters and Gearoid presumably) are to leave the panel due to the 6 day a week training regime. I sincerely hope this isn't true. If it is, this won't end well.

Could be any one of 3 Drung players and it says Swad players so there could be more than 2 swad players there.

Also if they are training 6 times a week i wouldnt blame them that is a hell of alot of commitment.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on November 10, 2011, 03:55:27 PM
Who's the 3rd Drung player on the panel? And who are the Swad player(s) other than Gearoid?
I had heard from a member of the panel that it was 5 nights training a week. Perhaps it was upped from this. It's a lot of commitment surely but I think the hard yards now will benefit them come league time. Dublin were doing 2 a day trainings in the winter in the last few years and it stood to them.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on November 10, 2011, 04:55:12 PM
Ciaran Galligan, Watters and J Reilly would be the 3 from Drung, Probaly Michael Cunningham is the other from Swad with Mckiernan..
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: michael d on November 11, 2011, 02:58:51 PM
This is getting to be a laugh all these quality players being dropped,Andrews the first manager to go
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on November 15, 2011, 10:26:54 AM
From Hoganstand.  I hope it is well attended to give people a real idea of what's needed to succeed.

Pat Gilroy to give talk on 'Team Management'
14 November 2011

Dublin Senior Football Manager Pat Gilroy will be delivering a talk on "Team Management" including his success as a manager and the techniques he employed in winning the All-Ireland Senior Football Championship.

This will take place this Friday 18th November at 8.15pm in St. Joesph's Hall, Ballyjamesduff.

Everyone is welcome, entrance is €5.

There is no doubt coaches, managers and players alike will take some inspiration from this talk.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: PhilsJemmysField on November 15, 2011, 02:21:56 PM
In again at the weekend U21 games, Newtown are a big strong team and even with a man less. Put together a strong performance to get into a final. Assan managed to get a draw against a defensive St Joes outfit with Paddy King and Bosco probably the main men . Lucky enough free at the end disturbing again to see the antics of some lads. Discipline is still a big issue around Cavan football. Wondering what the feeling about playing on the 3G is. I know our lads do not like the surface as Drumalee, cootehill and Ballyhaise have been on the 3G. Wondering what you lads think
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on November 15, 2011, 04:33:27 PM
Bary Doyle was very good again for Newtown as was Jack Brady.. They are big team thats true allright, Niall Mckieran will be a loss in the final, Conor Smit brother of Terrys hah a good game at half back aswell he had missed the previous two games through injury. Finnegan and Mcdermott were a big threat inside aswell..Castlerahan led by 2 at half time and failed to score in the second half.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on November 16, 2011, 12:51:39 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on November 15, 2011, 04:33:27 PM
, Niall Mckieran will be a loss in the final

Article in the Celt and the Newton manger is saying they are  going to appeal it.  I dont think anyone should be getting off for spitting at another player, its a dirty act.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on November 16, 2011, 10:17:21 PM
Johnston to Kildare...?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on November 16, 2011, 10:37:07 PM
Quote from: Westside on November 16, 2011, 10:17:21 PM
Johnston to Kildare...?

Where you hear that ?

Does he not teach in cavan?

Edit : You read to much hoganstand dude
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on November 16, 2011, 11:55:35 PM
He teaches in Breffni College 'tech'.. Kildare county board are suppose to be the wealthiest of all the county board in the country so maybe they have landed some county player with a big Job and money on the side to play for them.. I doubt its Johnston.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: sams the aim on November 17, 2011, 12:01:03 AM
I heard Armagh and lyng to Mayo and the miller to fermanagh, they wud b dead rite d way they were treated, a phone call after all des years service, management not even d decency-to meet face to face
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Ollie on November 17, 2011, 12:32:51 AM
http://www.setanta.com/ie/Articles/2011/11/10/Cavan-deny-Johnston-axe/gnid-117094/

Don't know what to believe now...
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on November 17, 2011, 09:34:29 AM
Sam you do know that Miller is still with Cavan and what is to say the other lads are not either.  A couple of fruit cakes on Hoganstand are causing all these rumours.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: whats my name on November 17, 2011, 12:30:31 PM
i know for a fact one of the six players mentioned was dropped from the panel he got a phone call from the managment an said he was no longer required heard this from the horses mouth so it must be true
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on November 17, 2011, 12:52:46 PM
It was in the Celt tommy not just on hoganstand about them players being dropped..
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on November 17, 2011, 01:21:24 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on November 17, 2011, 12:52:46 PM
It was in the Celt tommy not just on hoganstand about them players being dropped..

Which weeks Celt?

I am not trying to be awkward but i have not seen a statement from Cavan County Board or Val Andrews saying what players have been dropped or what players are called in etc.

I have seen a article in the star which names players that have been dropped but i dont believe it to be totally true as at least one of the players is still there.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on November 17, 2011, 01:40:05 PM
What about Canavan in line to be the Fermanagh manager.. Is that a missed opportunity for Cavan? I would imagine he'd be a great idol for promising young players. Then again maybe he wouldn't touch Cavan because of our baggage..
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: PhilsJemmysField on November 17, 2011, 05:02:59 PM
Right now there will be a lot of shadow boxing going on around the Cavan squad. As there is supposed to be no "collective training" till January. 
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on November 18, 2011, 10:39:00 PM
If anyone left out of the Cavan squad, went and signed up for another county then that would vindicate the managers to decision to leave them out in the first place. I hope none of our players would stoop to such levels.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: sams the aim on November 19, 2011, 12:56:12 AM
If they want to play county football they wud have no choice but to leave, it's been made v clear they won't be in this year, to be honest if anyone was treated with the same lack of respect these lads have been some with a lot of years service to not get even d dignity of a face to face meeting,people hiding behind a phone call  then u wud definitely have to think twice about what ur options r, and it wud make it impossible to play under present management again.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: angellady on November 19, 2011, 06:04:54 AM
Quote from: sams the aim on November 19, 2011, 12:56:12 AM
If they want to play county football they wud have no choice but to leave, it's been made v clear they won't be in this year, to be honest if anyone was treated with the same lack of respect these lads have been some with a lot of years service to not get even d dignity of a face to face meeting,people hiding behind a phone call  then u wud definitely have to think twice about what ur options r, and it wud make it impossible to play under present management again.
No problem seanie. We get your point. We love you. Sleep soundly you traitor!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on November 19, 2011, 08:06:20 AM
Quote from: sams the aim on November 19, 2011, 12:56:12 AM
If they want to play county football they wud have no choice but to leave, it's been made v clear they won't be in this year, to be honest if anyone was treated with the same lack of respect these lads have been some with a lot of years service to not get even d dignity of a face to face meeting,people hiding behind a phone call  then u wud definitely have to think twice about what ur options r, and it wud make it impossible to play under present management again.

A load of horse shite. Cavan must be the only county where certain players think it is their birth right to be on the county team. Players get dropped in other counties too you know? We have to assume that the managers dropped them for a reason (poor form, not putting it in, bringing down morale in squad etc). The players should now use their time to correct this, go out and show what they are worth in the league next spring. Not run away like a spoilt brat. Cavan gaa is bigger than any one player, much bigger. I think it would be a very poor sign of a player who would run away when a challenge is put in front of them and like I said such an action would justify their exclusion in the first place. Of course these rumours are hopefully false and are only malicious.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: sams the aim on November 19, 2011, 09:41:06 AM
It's nothing to do with birthright, it's just-simple manners to meet people face to face, after all DES players give up their free time to play and sacrifice so much. I no lyng was told he won't be in cos he is to old, what sort of stupid comment is that and if he does go nd play with Mayo I for one wud not blame him.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on November 19, 2011, 09:51:05 AM
Quote from: sams the aim on November 19, 2011, 09:41:06 AM
It's nothing to do with birthright, it's just-simple manners to meet people face to face, after all DES players give up their free time to play and sacrifice so much. I no lyng was told he won't be in cos he is to old, what sort of stupid comment is that and if he does go nd play with Mayo I for one wud not blame him.

Agreed it is a stupid comment, if it was actually said. Also agree players should be respected and told clearly why they are not on the panel. Lyng was one of my favourite Cavan players but unfortunately his form for the past yrs with Cavan has not been good enough. He was very poor in the 2 games last yr. Let him go out and show Andrews he has still got what it takes. Do you realise how strong mayo club football is? Lyng, on current form, would not make one of their top club teams never mind the county panel. I have doubts on Andrews myself but we have to accept he has seen the panel close up and he also has to consider the environment he is introducing the u21s into. Maybe he feels a clear out is the only way and I have sympathy for that position.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Swadman on November 19, 2011, 10:05:43 AM
Quote from: sams the aim on November 19, 2011, 09:41:06 AM
.... I no lyng was told he won't be in cos he is to old, what sort of stupid comment is that and if he does go nd play with Mayo I for one wud not blame him.
There are as many or more players dropped from the Kerry panel each year and they would be welcomed with open arms in any other county. You don't see it happening though. There wont be a bidding war for a player dropped off the Cavan, Donegal, Leitrim, Antrim, etc. panels.
As for Jelly to Kildare !!!! have you seen the size of those f***ers and McGeeney has run the arses off them to have them one of the fittest in the country. I can't see Johnston ticking any of his boxes. If he wants to work, let him work at getting back on the Cavan panel by producing consistant, hard grafting, performances for his club.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: sams the aim on November 19, 2011, 10:46:31 AM
Maybe he wudnt make it myles but he is not wanted here and told he is gone and not bein brought into the Cavan panel so he is right to back his ability and try, if u have no respect for someone or an organisation it's v v hard to trust Nd work with them so I feel that mr Andrews methods of telling these guys has burned d bridges for good
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on November 19, 2011, 12:45:20 PM
Quote from: sams the aim on November 19, 2011, 10:46:31 AM
Maybe he wudnt make it myles but he is not wanted here and told he is gone and not bein brought into the Cavan panel so he is right to back his ability and try, if u have no respect for someone or an organisation it's v v hard to trust Nd work with them so I feel that mr Andrews methods of telling these guys has burned d bridges for good

The things is Mr Andrews has a shelf life and players like Lyng and Johnson should remember that. If either player goes elsewhere then it is they that are burning their bridges as I don't think the Cavan public would want them back. I have my doubts about some of Andrews decisions especially the ones I was able to see 1st hand like the ridiculous tactics against Donegal last year and then his boasts about scoring more against them than anyone else. I suspect he could get the road at the end of this season. Hyland is the likely successor or maybe McCabe. I say it again, lads who are upset by being left out should just try and knuckle down and do well with their club. They should also be wary of the "hoganstand brigade" who will whisper in their ears how hard done by they are. With a new manager and year away from the county panel these players could come in again and make a difference and I actually hope that they do.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on November 19, 2011, 12:47:44 PM
Quote from: Westside on November 17, 2011, 01:40:05 PM
What about Canavan in line to be the Fermanagh manager.. Is that a missed opportunity for Cavan? I would imagine he'd be a great idol for promising young players. Then again maybe he wouldn't touch Cavan because of our baggage..

I believe that our Chairman approached 'God' last year but he never gave a definite answer. I hear a round figure of 100k for the whole Canavan team for Fermanagh.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Breffni_Yank on November 20, 2011, 03:14:04 PM
Two very entertaining U21 semi-finals last night in Division Two.

Quality wasn't great in the Bailieborough v Ballyhaise game but the last few minutes were as exciting as any match I have seen in years. Definetly beat sitting at home watching that bloody X-Factor with the woman.  Good to see teams giving it everything at this time of year and have to give it to the County Board.....great idea to play them on the 3G pitch.

The Bailieborough keeper made 3 or 4 brilliants saves to keep his team in it. Ballyhaise have a few very good footballers coming through and I was very impressed with the centre-forward.

The second game between Laragh and Drumgoon was just as interesting and ended in a draw and you could tell both teams had done a fair amount of training for this game. Cavan football has a genuine star coming through in Conor Moynagh.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on November 20, 2011, 05:23:11 PM
Was it Kevin Tiermey that was Centre forward for Ballyhaise? Wasn't at the games
Heard Assan Gaels won by 3 in the replay, they were lucky to get the draw last week as it looked like Mickey Lee was playing for the draw towards the end.. For an amalgamation of 3 clubs lavey,killinkere its mainly lavey players that dominate the team.. From the drawn game last week i think all the scores came from Lavey players.. Lavey probaly joined up as thats the way the u21 championship in div 1, mainly made up of amalgamated players.. Cuchulainns have only one player on the assan gaels team i think.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on November 20, 2011, 06:52:31 PM
Quote from: boojangles on November 19, 2011, 12:47:44 PM
Quote from: Westside on November 17, 2011, 01:40:05 PM
What about Canavan in line to be the Fermanagh manager.. Is that a missed opportunity for Cavan? I would imagine he'd be a great idol for promising young players. Then again maybe he wouldn't touch Cavan because of our baggage..

I believe that our Chairman approached 'God' last year but he never gave a definite answer. I hear a round figure of 100k for the whole Canavan team for Fermanagh.

Yes I've heard Canavan isn't shy about putting a price on his time.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
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Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dougal on November 23, 2011, 10:44:21 AM
in the celt this week that johnston has held talks with mcgeeney.it says it's up in the air at the minute,but i cant imagine it being anything else,he'll have to move clubs,get a new job in kildare and i think both county boards have to approve it.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on November 23, 2011, 11:42:00 AM
He is a little shit.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on November 23, 2011, 11:46:14 AM
Will he get a game with Kildare?

He will and we will see if Cavan football has been holding him back.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on November 23, 2011, 11:53:12 AM
I agree with Ms Salpha, where is the loyalty if he dropped and goes straight to another county.. Johnston would be like a child compared to the other kildare players (forwards)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on November 23, 2011, 12:04:19 PM
I cant see it happening anyway he would have to quit his teaching job half way through a school year and set up home in a new county.  Its a recession and the goverment are talking about reducing teaching numbers so it would be foolish for him to do that.  Maybe he can take a year out from his job i dont know.



Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on November 23, 2011, 12:10:16 PM
Quote from: Dougal on November 23, 2011, 10:44:21 AM
in the celt this week that johnston has held talks with mcgeeney.it says it's up in the air at the minute,but i cant imagine it being anything else,he'll have to move clubs,get a new job in kildare and i think both county boards have to approve it.

If he does that he would wan't to move there and not ever go home, he would be treated as a traitor in his own county. It would also say an awful lot about the make-up of the guys character in my opinion and would justify his being removed from the panel on that basis.

What does Anglocelt think now?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on November 23, 2011, 12:22:44 PM
I would love to see him up to his whinging on the field down there, he wouldnt last 5 minutes.


Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on November 23, 2011, 12:27:07 PM
If Johnston was to go he has massive motivation to prove himself and also the prospects of winning something or at the very least playing in a few big games in Croker. DennForever is right, we could see whether it has been Cavan holding him back or if he is in fact a top player.

Purely out of interest I would like to see him go!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on November 23, 2011, 12:45:27 PM
Maybe we should send all our players to other counties to see if Cavan has been holding them back.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on November 23, 2011, 12:47:58 PM
There is a few from Cavan Gaels who post on here like Ollie, Maybe they would have better inside information as to whether Johnston was leaving the gaels.. He has to transfer to a club to play with Kildare. All other clubs would be delighted, he might not have been great with the county but still unplayable for the gaels, for most of the year anyway.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: sams the aim on November 23, 2011, 02:25:08 PM
R DES dropped players meant to sit out der county careers and der best yrs on d scrap heap cos a manager like val andrews rings them and says he dusnt want them, personal abuse is crazy, if Sean johnston went or dermot Sheridan or mickey to Mayo can u blame them, they want to play county football. And u have a shelf life at this level and to be told in a v short conversation over d phone ur not good enough anymore or not wanted wudnt leave u dying to come back into a set up. if u do not know people personally you should not be personally abusing people. County board farce and a management farce have caused all this maybe someday we will learn in Cavan that d problems lie at board level.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on November 23, 2011, 02:29:02 PM
I hurt my eyes trying to read that.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on November 23, 2011, 03:23:59 PM
There's an awful lot of assumptions being made here that just because Johnston is a top class intercounty corner-forward (nobody would deny it), then we should assume that because he has been dropped it is a disgraceful way to treat him and our manager must have rocks in his head.

Most of us have reservations about our manager for sure but people need to slow down and ask themselves a question: Do they really believe Val Andrews is some sort of pig-headed, short-sighted lunatic who gets rid of his by-far-best forward off the panel for absolutely no reason? Why would he taker this dramatic course of action? What is the reason?

There's a lot of knee-jerk sensationalist stuff on here lately suggesting Seanie has been hard done by and he deserves more respect and better treatment than a phonecall. I don't know if all these rumours have any truth and I don't know Seanie personally or have any inkling what sort of chap he is, but I know what I've seen on the pitch in recent years and that's a lad who, mixed with some great displays, seems to be a little in love with his own publicity to the point where he has the Maradona complex on the field and is constantly bitching and moaning when things don't go his way. Sure he's a great talent but where was his supposed dedication to the county jersey when he went off to New York a few summers ago when his county was still in the championship? Did he break the news by phonecall to the manager or did he, as now seems demanded in these situations, give a lengthy personal meeting to his superiors where he broke down in tears and explained his actions at length? I doubt it.

I believe, and it's only speculation on my part, that the county board has decided to go full throttle for the foreseeable future with only dedicated players who cause no trouble behind the scenes. We heard the chairman talk about a five-year plan. I think the first step in this is shipping out the bad influences and starting from scratch with a fully committed panel who may struggle to find their feet but eventually will and leave us all the better for it. You can have all the talents in the world like Johnston but if he's not putting it in or is misbehaving behind the scenes - or whatever it is, it must be something like this because why get rid of him otherwise? - then in the medium to long term you're better off without.
We have seen in recent seasons where sticking with certain players to chase short-term achievement has got us. Nowhere and beyond, in a hurry. Time for a change.

And if Seanie is such a loyal Cavan man and so hard put upon by these circumstances, why is there these stories that he is very hastily flashing his knickers at Kildare? I'd have thought a committed county man would want to knuckle down and prove the doubters wrong. But perhaps Seanie is made of different stuff. Sounds like toys out of the pram stuff to me.

I'd love to see Seanie in a Cavan jersey next year busting a gut, giving his all and playing a selfless team game. That's the Seanie this team needs. But if, if he thinks he's bigger than the county team simply because he's Seanie Johnston, if he is the tail that tries to wag the dog, the individualist with the tortured artist complex who sees himself as bigger and better than his team mates, well, Cavan can do without that right now. We have minors and U21s to build with for the first time in generations.

Val Andrews knows what an awesome talent Seanie Johnston is, but yet, if the stories are true, he has STILL seen a need to jettison him off the panel. He wouldn't deprive himself of this talent and ability simply for the craic. There is a very good reason. Some would do well to ask themselves the question 'why' before attacking the manager and crying rivers all over the internet.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on November 23, 2011, 03:33:35 PM
Quote from: sams the aim on November 23, 2011, 02:25:08 PM
R DES dropped players meant to sit out der county careers and der best yrs on d scrap heap cos a manager like val andrews rings them and says he dusnt want them, personal abuse is crazy, if Sean johnston went or dermot Sheridan or mickey to Mayo can u blame them, they want to play county football. And u have a shelf life at this level and to be told in a v short conversation over d phone ur not good enough anymore or not wanted wudnt leave u dying to come back into a set up. if u do not know people personally you should not be personally abusing people. County board farce and a management farce have caused all this maybe someday we will learn in Cavan that d problems lie at board level.

- Where is the abuse on here directed at a player. Its a rare thing to happen on this forum - this is not hoganstand. Being critical of a player is not abuse imo.

I have answered everyone of your points in a previous post, which you did not reply to. Its all the managements fault and the Co boards fault but no mention of how our U21's were not impressed by the total lack of togetherness in the camp when they came in? Have you anything to say about that. The county board and manager are not blameless but neither are the players. Maybe Andrews decided certain players were more trouble than they were worth?? Any players ambition should be to represent their county or to win with their club. If their ambition is just to be a county footballer full stop, well then thats at total odds with every fan of GAA that I know and every club player I know. These guys should go figure why it is their are off the panel, rectify the situation by improved performance or improved attitude and force their way back in. Going off sulking and whinging is no addition. These boys would also want consider their legacy as footballers, having the title of being a "quitter" and is not something most people would want to carry with them.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Ollie on November 23, 2011, 04:04:49 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on November 23, 2011, 12:47:58 PM
There is a few from Cavan Gaels who post on here like Ollie, Maybe they would have better inside information as to whether Johnston was leaving the gaels.. He has to transfer to a club to play with Kildare. All other clubs would be delighted, he might not have been great with the county but still unplayable for the gaels, for most of the year anyway.

Have no inside information to report Rodney!! Jelly is 27 now at should be approaching is prime as a footballer. The man has tones of ability and is class act and any right minded person would agree that he is too good not to be playing inter county football. If Cavan want to move on without him and focus on the younger players then that's a decision that we all just have to accept regardless if we agree with it or not.

In no way can the Sean be deemed a "traitor" if he was told he was told he was no longer being considered for selection for the county panel.

If so happens he does transfer to Kildare he would be a massive loss to the Gaels and be sorely missed but he's been a great servant to the club and probably the most talented footballer to come through the gates of Terry Coyle and nobody would begrudge him or any player who wants to apply their trade at the highest level.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on November 23, 2011, 04:39:19 PM
Quote from: Ollie on November 23, 2011, 04:04:49 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on November 23, 2011, 12:47:58 PM
There is a few from Cavan Gaels who post on here like Ollie, Maybe they would have better inside information as to whether Johnston was leaving the gaels.. He has to transfer to a club to play with Kildare. All other clubs would be delighted, he might not have been great with the county but still unplayable for the gaels, for most of the year anyway.

Have no inside information to report Rodney!! Jelly is 27 now at should be approaching is prime as a footballer. The man has tones of ability and is class act and any right minded person would agree that he is too good not to be playing inter county football. If Cavan want to move on without him and focus on the younger players then that's a decision that we all just have to accept regardless if we agree with it or not.

In no way can the Sean be deemed a "traitor" if he was told he was told he was no longer being considered for selection for the county panel.

If so happens he does transfer to Kildare he would be a massive loss to the Gaels and be sorely missed but he's been a great servant to the club and probably the most talented footballer to come through the gates of Terry Coyle and nobody would begrudge him or any player who wants to apply their trade at the highest level.

So its out of the question he would just knuckle down at club level and force his way back onto the panel? Its happened before this type of thing. Frankie Dolan in Roscommon is one who comes to mind, kicked off the panel for discipline issues, went about his business with his club and was called in again. There are probably tonnes of examples around the country but in Cavan one player, it seems, is more important than the team.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on November 23, 2011, 05:38:17 PM
GAA is all about playing with your mates, brothers, cousins neighbours etc.  It's about playing for the local club and the county team if you are good enough and dedicated enough.

I have no problem with anyone who has to transfer due to work or family reasons, but for a lad to leave his own club and county just because the county team manger has decided he is not required is crazy.  He would not only be leaving his club and town but also his job and friends behind.

To be honest i cant see it happening Sean Johnston hasnt been to worried about playing county football the last few years so i cant see that changing now.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Ollie on November 23, 2011, 06:33:49 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on November 23, 2011, 04:39:19 PM
Quote from: Ollie on November 23, 2011, 04:04:49 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on November 23, 2011, 12:47:58 PM
There is a few from Cavan Gaels who post on here like Ollie, Maybe they would have better inside information as to whether Johnston was leaving the gaels.. He has to transfer to a club to play with Kildare. All other clubs would be delighted, he might not have been great with the county but still unplayable for the gaels, for most of the year anyway.

Have no inside information to report Rodney!! Jelly is 27 now at should be approaching is prime as a footballer. The man has tones of ability and is class act and any right minded person would agree that he is too good not to be playing inter county football. If Cavan want to move on without him and focus on the younger players then that's a decision that we all just have to accept regardless if we agree with it or not.

In no way can the Sean be deemed a "traitor" if he was told he was told he was no longer being considered for selection for the county panel.

If so happens he does transfer to Kildare he would be a massive loss to the Gaels and be sorely missed but he's been a great servant to the club and probably the most talented footballer to come through the gates of Terry Coyle and nobody would begrudge him or any player who wants to apply their trade at the highest level.

So its out of the question he would just knuckle down at club level and force his way back onto the panel? Its happened before this type of thing. Frankie Dolan in Roscommon is one who comes to mind, kicked off the panel for discipline issues, went about his business with his club and was called in again. There are probably tonnes of examples around the country but in Cavan one player, it seems, is more important than the team.

Sean wasn't dropped for disciplinary reasons or for a lack of form at club level. Val dropped him to make way for younger players. Not sure what you're implying about "one player is more important than the team".
Sean has worked hard over the years to be the calibre of player he is today. It's a pity he's no longer wanted by Cavan but that shouldn't stand in his way of achieving his goals elsewhere. Its unlikely that Val will pick him again and It would be unwise of Sean to just hang around and hope for a recall.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on November 23, 2011, 06:40:58 PM
Quote from: Ollie on November 23, 2011, 06:33:49 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on November 23, 2011, 04:39:19 PM
Quote from: Ollie on November 23, 2011, 04:04:49 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on November 23, 2011, 12:47:58 PM
There is a few from Cavan Gaels who post on here like Ollie, Maybe they would have better inside information as to whether Johnston was leaving the gaels.. He has to transfer to a club to play with Kildare. All other clubs would be delighted, he might not have been great with the county but still unplayable for the gaels, for most of the year anyway.

Have no inside information to report Rodney!! Jelly is 27 now at should be approaching is prime as a footballer. The man has tones of ability and is class act and any right minded person would agree that he is too good not to be playing inter county football. If Cavan want to move on without him and focus on the younger players then that's a decision that we all just have to accept regardless if we agree with it or not.

In no way can the Sean be deemed a "traitor" if he was told he was told he was no longer being considered for selection for the county panel.

If so happens he does transfer to Kildare he would be a massive loss to the Gaels and be sorely missed but he's been a great servant to the club and probably the most talented footballer to come through the gates of Terry Coyle and nobody would begrudge him or any player who wants to apply their trade at the highest level.

So its out of the question he would just knuckle down at club level and force his way back onto the panel? Its happened before this type of thing. Frankie Dolan in Roscommon is one who comes to mind, kicked off the panel for discipline issues, went about his business with his club and was called in again. There are probably tonnes of examples around the country but in Cavan one player, it seems, is more important than the team.
.Val dropped him to make way for younger players.     Do u believe that?

. Its unlikely that Val will pick him again and It would be unwise of Sean to just hang around and hope for a recall.  Should all droped inter county players look for another county ?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on November 23, 2011, 06:43:50 PM
He was dropped "to make way for younger players". Do you honestly believe that is true? As Cavan maniac said, Andrews must have his reasons and I doubt that alone is one of them.

One man bigger than team means better players than Johnston (yes its true, there are better players) have been dropped in different counties and they just got on with it. But not in Cavan, our players are so important they just simply MUST be playing at county level. Any county player who quits like that (if there is any truth in this of course) is no good to any team imo.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Ollie on November 23, 2011, 06:57:03 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on November 23, 2011, 06:43:50 PM
He was dropped "to make way for younger players". Do you honestly believe that is true? As Cavan maniac said, Andrews must have his reasons and I doubt that alone is one of them.

One man bigger than team means better players than Johnston (yes its true, there are better players) have been dropped in different counties and they just got on with it. But not in Cavan, our players are so important they just simply MUST be playing at county level. Any county player who quits like that (if there is any truth in this of course) is no good to any team imo.

Yes I do believe its true. Johnston was captain last year and played in the final game against Longford. Its a bit hard to be dropped for Disciplinary reasons when the no training or matches have been played since then and it unlikely he was dropped for lack of form with the Gaels.

Any player who quits??? He didnt quit he was told he was no longer needed.

Keep in mind that Kieran McGeeney came looking for Johnston. So he can either play no inter-county football at all or throw his lot in with Kildare? Playing with Kildare is better than playing no football at all. Also keep in mind that Cavan had no problem accepting Dublin and Meaths unwanted players. No reason why people should begrudge Jelly when they were welcoming Nesty and Brennan with open arms.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on November 23, 2011, 07:07:25 PM
By quit I mean gives up on playing for Cavan forever instead of fighting back. No one said he was put off the panel for discipline but maybe it was his attitude, or maybe he is disruptive. Only Andrews and fellow panelists know.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on November 23, 2011, 08:12:53 PM
Also keep in mind that Cavan had no problem accepting Dublin and Meaths unwanted players
Brennan and Smith was a different situation to that of Johnston. Brennan had been playing for Drumalee a few years and than called into the Cavan panal, Smith had wanted to play for Cavan before but there was problems with the transfer. He was on a few dublin squads but his parents were from Cavan and he wanted to play with Cavan.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Ollie on November 23, 2011, 10:59:25 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on November 23, 2011, 08:12:53 PM
Also keep in mind that Cavan had no problem accepting Dublin and Meaths unwanted players
Brennan and Smith was a different situation to that of Johnston. Brennan had been playing for Drumalee a few years and than called into the Cavan panal, Smith had wanted to play for Cavan before but there was problems with the transfer. He was on a few dublin squads but his parents were from Cavan and he wanted to play with Cavan.

It's not entirely different. They only declared for Cavan once they realised that they weren't going to get a call up to their native counties. Nesty played in All Ireland under 21 final for Dublin in 2003. Not sure if Brennan played for Meath at any level.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on November 24, 2011, 09:27:18 AM
Neither of them two left there club, job and local area just to play county football, not that i think it will happen in this case Johnston is hardly stupid.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on November 24, 2011, 06:17:07 PM
Quote from: Ollie on November 23, 2011, 10:59:25 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on November 23, 2011, 08:12:53 PM
Also keep in mind that Cavan had no problem accepting Dublin and Meaths unwanted players
Brennan and Smith was a different situation to that of Johnston. Brennan had been playing for Drumalee a few years and than called into the Cavan panal, Smith had wanted to play for Cavan before but there was problems with the transfer. He was on a few dublin squads but his parents were from Cavan and he wanted to play with Cavan.

It's not entirely different. They only declared for Cavan once they realised that they weren't going to get a call up to their native counties. Nesty played in All Ireland under 21 final for Dublin in 2003. Not sure if Brennan played for Meath at any level.

Not true.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on November 24, 2011, 08:48:31 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on November 23, 2011, 12:10:16 PM
Quote from: Dougal on November 23, 2011, 10:44:21 AM
in the celt this week that johnston has held talks with mcgeeney.it says it's up in the air at the minute,but i cant imagine it being anything else,he'll have to move clubs,get a new job in kildare and i think both county boards have to approve it.

If he does that he would wan't to move there and not ever go home, he would be treated as a traitor in his own county. It would also say an awful lot about the make-up of the guys character in my opinion and would justify his being removed from the panel on that basis.

What does Anglocelt think now?


Don't know what the publication thinks Myles but this poster thinks as follows:

1. it's the close season, people have plenty of time on their hands, screen jockeys can make stories grow legs in no time so I don't know what to think without being in full possession of the facts.

2. The lad in question has been one of our better and more committed players over the past 5 to 6 years and owes me nothing, nor indeed do I believe he owes anything to any other poster on this board. Like just about every other lad that pulls on a Cavan jersey over the past few years he has his imperfections. Like every other Cavan GAA player at all levels he is doing it on voluntary basis and hardly warrants being treated as a "traitor" if he decides to move on elsewhere (and nothing has been confirmed about that at any rate.

3. He's a young lad playing an amateur sport and, to tell the truth, I'm pretty indifferent as to what he does providing it makes him happy. Bit similar to several dozen lads around the county who have been asked to step into the county set up and refused the offer.


All in all would be a bit disappointed if he was to make an inter county switch but we will all get over it. Thinks our minor and under 21 panels this year showed a bit of the way forward, playing the one in all in 15 man game without the supposed stand out performers.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on November 24, 2011, 10:47:42 PM
What does in matter if Brennan never played any level with Meath in Fairness, I don't know if he has or has not.., he got work in Cavan running a bar/resturant and joined Drumalee.. He had to prove himself first with Drumalee for about 2 years i think and then got onto the County panel.. The fact that he might not have played senior county football with Meath is not Cavans problem, they obviously favoured other players. He was and still is well worth his place on the Cavan panel, very consistent player for Drumalee.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on November 24, 2011, 11:30:16 PM
Anglocelt. First off this "story" came from the printed press, not screen jockeys. The herald, sun, star and the anglocelt had the story.

Calling Johnston one of our most committed players is a serious stretch. Leaving that aside this is not about a player deciding he wants to move away for some reason. This is about a lad throwing his toys out of the pram because a manager had the audacity to drop him. Nothing more. I actually hope that this is all untrue. When a player gets dropped he has two choices, fight back or quit. We all know the type we want and you alluded to that in your comments on the u21 and minors.

He is 27, in his prime. The "young lad" defence is wearing thin. I'm interested in what he does because our most talented player quitting on his Cavan career is not good for Cavan gaa. But neither is having talented players that create other problems, which only the management really know.

Poor form earlier by Ollie trying to draw parallels between this and Brennan/nesty. Totally different.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Ollie on November 25, 2011, 01:06:01 AM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on November 24, 2011, 11:30:16 PM
Anglocelt. First off this "story" came from the printed press, not screen jockeys. The herald, sun, star and the anglocelt had the story.

Calling Johnston one of our most committed players is a serious stretch. Leaving that aside this is not about a player deciding he wants to move away for some reason. This is about a lad throwing his toys out of the pram because a manager had the audacity to drop him. Nothing more. I actually hope that this is all untrue. When a player gets dropped he has two choices, fight back or quit. We all know the type we want and you alluded to that in your comments on the u21 and minors.

He is 27, in his prime. The "young lad" defence is wearing thin. I'm interested in what he does because our most talented player quitting on his Cavan career is not good for Cavan gaa. But neither is having talented players that create other problems, which only the management really know.

Poor form earlier by Ollie trying to draw parallels between this and Brennan/nesty. Totally different.

How so?? Both play inter-county football for a county that their not native too. That's exactly what Johnston will be doing if he plays with Kildare next year. So there's one parallel to the story.

A better example would be Rory Gallagher. He was welcomed into the Cavan set up when Fermanagh didn't want him. I think he only played two games in the League.

So collectively as a county we can't have any complaints about discarded Cavan players wanting to play elsewhere seeing as we lead the way in welcoming others from outside of Cavan. 



Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on November 25, 2011, 07:46:07 AM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on November 24, 2011, 11:30:16 PM
Anglocelt. First off this "story" came from the printed press, not screen jockeys. The herald, sun, star and the anglocelt had the story.

Calling Johnston one of our most committed players is a serious stretch. Leaving that aside this is not about a player deciding he wants to move away for some reason. This is about a lad throwing his toys out of the pram because a manager had the audacity to drop him. Nothing more. I actually hope that this is all untrue. When a player gets dropped he has two choices, fight back or quit. We all know the type we want and you alluded to that in your comments on the u21 and minors.

He is 27, in his prime. The "young lad" defence is wearing thin. I'm interested in what he does because our most talented player quitting on his Cavan career is not good for Cavan gaa. But neither is having talented players that create other problems, which only the management really know.

Poor form earlier by Ollie trying to draw parallels between this and Brennan/nesty. Totally different.



It's December Myles, are there any personalities you can obsess about over on the Premiership or X Factor threads. I will get myself an opinion on this matter if and when the facts ever emerge.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on November 25, 2011, 10:23:11 AM
Don't watch premiership much or x factor. Try to watch a bit of Cavan football when I can, unlike yourself :P
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on November 25, 2011, 05:25:33 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on November 24, 2011, 11:30:16 PM
Anglocelt. First off this "story" came from the printed press, not screen jockeys. The herald, sun, star and the anglocelt had the story.

Calling Johnston one of our most committed players is a serious stretch. Leaving that aside this is not about a player deciding he wants to move away for some reason. This is about a lad throwing his toys out of the pram because a manager had the audacity to drop him. Nothing more. I actually hope that this is all untrue. When a player gets dropped he has two choices, fight back or quit. We all know the type we want and you alluded to that in your comments on the u21 and minors.

He is 27, in his prime. The "young lad" defence is wearing thin. I'm interested in what he does because our most talented player quitting on his Cavan career is not good for Cavan gaa. But neither is having talented players that create other problems, which only the management really know.

Poor form earlier by Ollie trying to draw parallels between this and Brennan/nesty. Totally different.

Agree with all of that.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on November 25, 2011, 10:04:26 PM
Most of this talk is irrelevant and probably idle speculation anyway. Unless any of the lads are willing to transfer clubs or jobs then they will not get playing for another county. That is the rules.

It really is a shame that in Cavan we just can't get all our best players pulling the one way for the good of the county.
We are limited when it comes to talent in Cavan. I really feel Val has mis-managed this whole situation. He/They have obviously decided they are going with a new approach this year, which is fair enough. BUT would it really have killed him to meet these lads face to face and tell them his plans and that basically that they were not part of them. It would have saved all this bullshit in the newspapers and the usual headlines for the wrong reasons when it comes to Cavan GAA.
My opinion as regards Jelly is this. Val should have met him face to face if he had a problem with him. (Which he obviously has). Told him what he expected of him and every other player and that if he wasn't willing to commit to that then he would not be wanted.
A good manager can deal with all sorts of personalities and can blend them into a team.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on November 25, 2011, 10:33:30 PM
We'll see the man management skills of Morrison now.

Is there not an embargo of training at the minute? And yet the team is playing in the Fitzsimons Cup shield final on Saturday.  I'd say Seanie is enjoying the break at the moment.

Roll on February.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on November 25, 2011, 10:43:37 PM
Quote from: boojangles on November 25, 2011, 10:04:26 PM
Most of this talk is irrelevant and probably idle speculation anyway. Unless any of the lads are willing to transfer clubs or jobs then they will not get playing for another county. That is the rules.

It really is a shame that in Cavan we just can't get all our best players pulling the one way for the good of the county.
We are limited when it comes to talent in Cavan. I really feel Val has mis-managed this whole situation. He/They have obviously decided they are going with a new approach this year, which is fair enough. BUT would it really have killed him to meet these lads face to face and tell them his plans and that basically that they were not part of them. It would have saved all this bullshit in the newspapers and the usual headlines for the wrong reasons when it comes to Cavan GAA.
My opinion as regards Jelly is this. Val should have met him face to face if he had a problem with him. (Which he obviously has). Told him what he expected of him and every other player and that if he wasn't willing to commit to that then he would not be wanted.
A good manager can deal with all sorts of personalities and can blend them into a team.

Agree for sure the manager should have met the players and told them the story. I have grave doubts about Andrews but he still has the right to choose who he wants on his panel and that is the bottom line.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on November 25, 2011, 11:12:01 PM
Quote from: boojangles on November 25, 2011, 10:04:26 PM
Most of this talk is irrelevant and probably idle speculation anyway. Unless any of the lads are willing to transfer clubs or jobs then they will not get playing for another county. That is the rules.

It really is a shame that in Cavan we just can't get all our best players pulling the one way for the good of the county.
We are limited when it comes to talent in Cavan. I really feel Val has mis-managed this whole situation. He/They have obviously decided they are going with a new approach this year, which is fair enough. BUT would it really have killed him to meet these lads face to face and tell them his plans and that basically that they were not part of them. It would have saved all this bullshit in the newspapers and the usual headlines for the wrong reasons when it comes to Cavan GAA.
My opinion as regards Jelly is this. Val should have met him face to face if he had a problem with him. (Which he obviously has). Told him what he expected of him and every other player and that if he wasn't willing to commit to that then he would not be wanted.
A good manager can deal with all sorts of personalities and can blend them into a team.

First time commenting on this whole situation but Boojangles' post hits the nail on the head and is word for word exactly what I feel too.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on November 25, 2011, 11:13:50 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on November 25, 2011, 10:43:37 PM
Quote from: boojangles on November 25, 2011, 10:04:26 PM
Most of this talk is irrelevant and probably idle speculation anyway. Unless any of the lads are willing to transfer clubs or jobs then they will not get playing for another county. That is the rules.

It really is a shame that in Cavan we just can't get all our best players pulling the one way for the good of the county.
We are limited when it comes to talent in Cavan. I really feel Val has mis-managed this whole situation. He/They have obviously decided they are going with a new approach this year, which is fair enough. BUT would it really have killed him to meet these lads face to face and tell them his plans and that basically that they were not part of them. It would have saved all this bullshit in the newspapers and the usual headlines for the wrong reasons when it comes to Cavan GAA.
My opinion as regards Jelly is this. Val should have met him face to face if he had a problem with him. (Which he obviously has). Told him what he expected of him and every other player and that if he wasn't willing to commit to that then he would not be wanted.
A good manager can deal with all sorts of personalities and can blend them into a team.

Agree for sure the manager should have met the players and told them the story. I have grave doubts about Andrews but he still has the right to choose who he wants on his panel and that is the bottom line.

Yes, but there is no consistency in what he has done. Bringing in new lads who may or may not be committed. Keeping lads whos commitment could be questioned over the last few years.
Anyway I hope it all works out for them.
IMO they should all have been given a few months break (with their own programmes) and go hammer and thongs at it straight after Xmas. I really don't know how some of these boys can maintain the hunger year in, year out. Maybe that is half the problem.........
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on November 26, 2011, 05:05:56 AM
Maybe this - again, only if all these rumours actually have any substance - is Val's attempt at a clean sweep in an effort to get consistency from now on in terms of personnel and their commitment. Two past managers have alluded to the problem of there being a number of shapers on the panel for quite a while and we here too have discussed whether it's better to focus on the short term and accommodate these half-hearts, or instead take the pain of culling them in one fell swoop and just going with whatever lads are available that will do the thing right, 100%.

I've always favoured the latter and although I share everyone's reservations about whether Andrews  is the man you'd want at the tiller for ushering in what may be our shot at a brave new dawn for the county team, I support the general motivation underpinning his actions. We'll just have to see what happens from here on and find out how much truth there are in the stories.

The supreme irony is that if Jelly does go to another county side, he'll have precisely the type of motivation to knuckle down and show everyone what he's capable of, and I'd expect him to prosper. What's saddest about it is that, as I'd speculate, people closer to him than us, i.e. the management team, believe for whatever reasons that he can't do this same knuckling down for his own county and instead of rising to the challenge in his own land he thinks it better to do so elsewhere. He'd also be a pariah in Cavan for years to come and part of me feels sorry for him on a personal level if that comes to pass, although I'm sure he knows what he's doing.

But maybe that's all jumping the gun a little, we'll see what happens from here on.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on November 26, 2011, 05:28:13 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on November 25, 2011, 10:43:37 PM
Quote from: boojangles on November 25, 2011, 10:04:26 PM
Most of this talk is irrelevant and probably idle speculation anyway. Unless any of the lads are willing to transfer clubs or jobs then they will not get playing for another county. That is the rules.

It really is a shame that in Cavan we just can't get all our best players pulling the one way for the good of the county.
We are limited when it comes to talent in Cavan. I really feel Val has mis-managed this whole situation. He/They have obviously decided they are going with a new approach this year, which is fair enough. BUT would it really have killed him to meet these lads face to face and tell them his plans and that basically that they were not part of them. It would have saved all this bullshit in the newspapers and the usual headlines for the wrong reasons when it comes to Cavan GAA.
My opinion as regards Jelly is this. Val should have met him face to face if he had a problem with him. (Which he obviously has). Told him what he expected of him and every other player and that if he wasn't willing to commit to that then he would not be wanted.
A good manager can deal with all sorts of personalities and can blend them into a team.

Agree for sure the manager should have met the players and told them the story. I have grave doubts about Andrews
but he still has the right to choose who he wants on his panel and that is the bottom line.

100% in agreement with you Myles on the bit I have highlighted as I am in agreement with a lot of what you post. Following on from this logic I also assume that you would agree that private citizens who happen to play GAA in an amateur capacity are entitled to all of the following:
-decline an invitation to be part of a county panel;
-if they accept an invitation to be part of a county panel to put a level of effort in that they are happy with (if that doesn't suit the management or selectors they have a remedy they can exercise);
-drop out of a county panel
-decide to switch county or club allegiances.


Assuming you accept all of the above ( and I find it hard to see how any sensible person would not) you will then possibly accept that it might be inappropriate for faceless internet posters to be making subjective, judgmental comments on a players decisions in any of the above areas, all the more so when we are dealing with speculation as opposed to fact.

To cut to the chase, the personal decisions of any lad up at home who just happen to play a bit of GAA are !"££¬ all of my business. Come to think of it, they are probably none of yours either.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on November 26, 2011, 08:39:26 PM
The last point is not so simple as it goes against the ethos of the gaa. There are rules about it, you can't just decide to go and play for any team you feel like. You have to be living or working in the area of the new team. We are all faceless internet posters here, yourself included. We are all entitled to give our opinion just like all the lads in the pubs of Cavan tonight who will be expressing opinions. Mine is simple. If you get a knock back you fight back. You don't quit. Any player who left out of the panel and immediately decides to transfer to another county has in that act justified the managers decision to drop him in the first place.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BigMac on November 28, 2011, 06:55:26 PM
I'm not really taking sides in this, as I can see the points on both sides of the argument, but what I am wondering about it the references to Nesty and Brennan. I can understand completely how Mickey Brennan could play for Cavan, due to him living and working in the county, and playing club football with Drumalee, but as far as I'm aware Nesty didn't do either of those? Is it not the same thing for him to live and work in Dublin and play his club football in Cavan, as Jelly playing for Kildare? People are saying Johnson needs to leave the gaels / his job in Breffni College if he wants to play for Kildare - but Nesty didn't do any of these things - as far as I am aware. This is purely an innocent question - I'm not trying to stir it up. Also isn't Lyng working in Mayo - so he could play for them if he wanted to, without leaving the gaels??
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanforever on November 28, 2011, 07:02:33 PM
Bigmac nestys parents are both from cavan and currently live there so this is how he is eligible. on the other hand johnson has no connections with kildare
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on November 30, 2011, 04:34:22 PM
Anyone have any news or want to make up something to get things going here?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on November 30, 2011, 04:48:30 PM
Dermot McCabe drafted into the revised Cavan Panel.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on November 30, 2011, 05:14:08 PM
Quote from: Denn Forever on November 30, 2011, 04:48:30 PM
Dermot McCabe drafted into the revised Cavan Panel.

There is no panel  :D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Take your goals on December 01, 2011, 03:33:14 AM
Going back to the johnston story, I was always one of johnstons biggest fans as i recognise the ability he has and the joy he brought to cavan fans during a barren spell for cavan football.. It now appears that he is no longer wanted by the cavan management, also there are a few fans that are happy to see him off the panel... I for one will fully support him if he chooses to go to kildare.. It would be a shame if his intercounty career was ended at 27 by a journeyman manager that feels this is good for cavan football..
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on December 01, 2011, 10:09:29 AM
Quote from: Take your goals on December 01, 2011, 03:33:14 AM
Going back to the johnston story, I was always one of johnstons biggest fans as i recognise the ability he has and the joy he brought to cavan fans during a barren spell for cavan football.. It now appears that he is no longer wanted by the cavan management, also there are a few fans that are happy to see him off the panel... I for one will fully support him if he chooses to go to kildare.. It would be a shame if his intercounty career was ended at 27 by a journeyman manager that feels this is good for cavan football..

I dont think it is good for the GAA to have players "signing" for other countys for reasons like this.  It is moving the game towards becoming professional and in this economy it cannot be supported.  If Johnston kept himself fit and continued to play well for the Gaels in the early part on next year i would have no doubt that he would have been called back in as the management would have had no choice. 

I also heard that it is pretty certain that he will go to Kildare but i just cant see it happening unless he can get a year off in his work.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cornafean on December 01, 2011, 10:23:00 AM
Cavan must be in an awful state if a leading player can now be dropped from the panel. I mean you'd never see such a thing happening in the successful counties like Dublin, Cork or Kerry...
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on December 01, 2011, 10:59:32 AM
Quote from: cornafean on December 01, 2011, 10:23:00 AM
Cavan must be in an awful state if a leading player can now be dropped from the panel. I mean you'd never see such a thing happening in the successful counties like Dublin, Cork or Kerry...

Kerry - Maurice Fitzgerald
Cork - James Masters
Dublin - Paddy Andrews

To name a few
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cornafean on December 01, 2011, 11:24:57 AM
My career in the irony business is going nowhere  :'(
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on December 01, 2011, 12:17:05 PM
Quote from: cornafean on December 01, 2011, 11:24:57 AM
My career in the irony business is going nowhere  :'(

It was weak, you needed to add one of these.... ::)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on December 01, 2011, 05:13:07 PM
Tommy if you heard its pity certain he is going then maybe he has got work there..Hearing its pretty certain is going but thinking he wont be going because of the work situation doesn't make sense.. Either he is or isn't going. He is hardly going to play county football with Kildare and live in the dole..
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on December 01, 2011, 06:19:36 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on December 01, 2011, 05:13:07 PM
Tommy if you heard its pity certain he is going then maybe he has got work there..Hearing its pretty certain is going but thinking he wont be going because of the work situation doesn't make sense.. Either he is or isn't going. He is hardly going to play county football with Kildare and live in the dole..

I heard that but i dont believe everything i hear.

I dont think he is foolish enough to quiet his job teaching in Cavan because he may not get another one here when he is finished with kildare. 

So in short is he willing to turn his life up side down for the chance of playing with kildare?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on December 01, 2011, 06:48:42 PM
Who knows tommy, but in the Irish Independent today one the kildare selectors was saying was the door was open in the future for a switch, that there was nothing firm on the matter as of yet.
On a different matter its a bit ridiculous that the two u21 couldn't be played as a double header. The div2 is saturday and div1 is sunday. Can't see them being on the main pitch, 3g again i'd say. Think Newtown will beat Assan Gaels by 3 or 4 points.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on December 02, 2011, 11:25:17 AM
They are both Saturday going by fixtures on Hoganstand.

Saturday, 03rd December 2011 @ 6pm
Hotel Kilmore Division 1 Under Championship Final
Newtown Gaels Assan Gaels

Saturday, 03rd December 2011 @ 4.15pm
Hotel Kilmore Division 2 Under Championship Final
Ballyhaise v Laragh Utd

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on December 02, 2011, 03:07:59 PM
That's an error by Hoganstand, the division 1 final is definitely on sunday.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Breffni_Yank on December 02, 2011, 03:19:36 PM
I see on the main thread its being reported that John Morrisson is very sick.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on December 02, 2011, 04:25:40 PM
Yes just saw that on Twitter, County players tweeting their good wishes.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on December 03, 2011, 02:28:56 AM
Best wishes to beefer at times llike this footballl takes a back seat.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tierworker blue on December 03, 2011, 04:33:43 PM
Quote from: tommysmith on December 03, 2011, 02:28:56 AM
Best wishes to beefer at times llike this footballl takes a back seat.

Absolutely...well said
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on December 03, 2011, 08:12:33 PM
John Morrison was involved with Mickey Moran when they were over Mayo and he was also with Mickey Moran for a year at Leitrim. Mickey Moran had to step down from Leitrim about a week ago due to health reasons and it could well be that John Morrison might have to leave Cavan so soon too. Hopefully they both make a good recovery.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on December 04, 2011, 04:26:12 PM
Can anyone that was in Breffni give an account of the U21 final?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on December 04, 2011, 04:46:15 PM
Yeah Newtown lost by a point.. 1-8 to 10.. Fckn tough way to lose a game at the very end when up by 2 points and they race up the field and score a wonder goal by Karl Duke to win the game. Good game of football considering rain all week. Newtown went ahead 4 pts to no score,then they got 5 points without reply, in between Newtown having Stephen Brady sent off. Newtown led 7-6 at half time, Mcdermott who had an outstanding and Finnegan did all the scoring for Newtown, Shane Tiereny was very lively for Assan,Chris Conroy and Duke had good games aswell.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on December 04, 2011, 04:58:36 PM
Good stuff RT.. Sounds like a serious kick in the stones for the Newtown lads. Great to see a quality, competitive U21 Championship in Cavan.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: PhilsJemmysField on December 05, 2011, 02:10:23 PM
Winning is just not easy.  :D The Div1 U21 final was moved by Tom Reilly because there was a conflict with a Scor competition.  It had nothing to do with young Finnegan (Newtown) who in fairness should have got Man of the Match really, being unavailable due to suspension on the Saturday night.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on December 05, 2011, 04:42:31 PM
Young finnegan wasn't suspended Phil.. It was Niall Mckiernan,and his appeal didn't go through on the Friday night so he wasn't able to play. I didn't think it would either. Fair play to Assan Gaels they battled to the very end, i remember a few years ago Lavey got a late late goal to beat Ballinagh to win the u21 div2 championship, real never say die spirit.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: PhilsJemmysField on December 06, 2011, 09:48:44 AM
If the game was played on Saturday a Cornafean player was not available due to suspension FACT. Not absolutely sure it was Finnegan so will stop mentioning names. He still had a great game and has great strength and determination his last point deserved to win the game but then shit happened. Thank God :D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on December 06, 2011, 12:53:01 PM
Adrian Caffrey was that player, it was just a coincidence that his ban expired the day that the Scor was on.. Connor Finnegan wasn't sent off in any game in the u21 championship.. Niall Mckiernan was sent off in the semi against Castlerahan and missed the final as his appeal was turned down on friday. He was a loss but Newtown played well without him and should have had it won before that late goal, but as you siad shit happens.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cornafean on December 06, 2011, 01:34:44 PM
Quote from: PhilsJemmysField on December 06, 2011, 09:48:44 AM
If the game was played on Saturday a Cornafean player was not available due to suspension FACT. Not absolutely sure it was Finnegan so will stop mentioning names.

Finnegan doesn't play for Cornafean. Wish he did :(
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: upthem on December 08, 2011, 03:32:58 PM
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Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on December 16, 2011, 10:48:51 AM
Bad news from Oz...  One of the Bailieboro lads died in a van explosion yesterday  RIP
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on December 16, 2011, 11:34:40 AM
Quote from: Celt_Man on December 16, 2011, 10:48:51 AM
Bad news from Oz...  One of the Bailieboro lads died in a van explosion yesterday  RIP
Shocked. RIP Paddy. Condolences to all his family, friends and to the Bailieborough club.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on December 16, 2011, 11:53:21 AM
Quote from: boojangles on December 16, 2011, 11:34:40 AM
Quote from: Celt_Man on December 16, 2011, 10:48:51 AM
Bad news from Oz...  One of the Bailieboro lads died in a van explosion yesterday  RIP
Shocked. RIP Paddy. Condolences to all his family, friends and to the Bailieborough club.


Christ, do ye know who it was? Don't post anything if it's not official.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dougal on December 16, 2011, 01:15:06 PM
RIP Paddy

Anglo,it's been confirmed on the main HS page that Paddy Bird passed away yesterday.
Never knew him personaly, but ill never forget standing beside him and a few other lads at the wicklow game last year,he showed some amount of passion that day.always left ya with a talking point after a game,either it was him acting the eejit or his ability.

Condolences to his family,friends and all who knew him.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on December 16, 2011, 02:15:03 PM
Quote from: Dougal on December 16, 2011, 01:15:06 PM
RIP Paddy

Anglo,it's been confirmed on the main HS page that Paddy Bird passed away yesterday.
Never knew him personaly, but ill never forget standing beside him and a few other lads at the wicklow game last year,he showed some amount of passion that day.always left ya with a talking point after a game,either it was him acting the eejit or his ability.

Condolences to his family,friends and all who knew him.


Bloody hell. Long and all as I'm gone from the place I'd have a good idea of who the family are. Stuff like this is always terrible but to happen so far away and in the weeks leading up to Christmas just makes it so much worse. Very very tough on the family too in terms of sheer logistics, if an accident like that happened in Sydney or Melbourne you'd have a very big expat community to fall back on at times like this. Mind you, from what I've heard of Paddy, Australia's  top end and himself would have been well matched.

RIP and condolences to his family and friends
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on December 16, 2011, 02:56:55 PM
Very sad news news indeed. My condolences to his family and friends.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4sam on December 16, 2011, 07:18:17 PM
Terrible news indeed, RIP Paddy Bird. Condolences to his family and friends.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Breffni_Yank on December 16, 2011, 09:35:35 PM
Absolutely terrible and awful news. All thoughts are with his family and friends at this difficult time of year.

One of the more interesting characters to ever play football in this county. He was usually worth the entrance fee alone and by all means he could play football. Such sad news. RIP Paddy. You will be long remembered around Bailieborough and the surrounding areas.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2011-12-16/20111216-darwin-blast-man-dies/3734692
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: whats my name on December 16, 2011, 11:33:30 PM
Played against paddy a few times great footballer terrible news for his family and friends my he rest in peace
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tierworker blue on December 17, 2011, 12:01:50 AM
Terrible news. RIP Paddy.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: CC1 on December 17, 2011, 10:42:26 AM
Awful news, I work with one of his best friends and you could tell that he was a great character and loved amongst those who knew him. Great footballer as well, remember playing against him once where he came on and changed the game for Bailieboro. Another sad loss of a young mans life down this end of the country.

RIP Paddy.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on December 22, 2011, 09:35:04 PM
Back to unimportant things in the grand scheme of life.

Didn't know Walsh had emigrated.

Have a good break and don't drink or eat too much.

Walsh backs Johnston switch
22 December 2011


Seanie Johnston of CavanFormer Cavan midfielder Nicholas Walsh believes Seanie Johnston is well within his rights to leave for another county after he was deemed surplus to requirements by Breffni County boss Val Andrews.

The gifted Cavan Gaels attacker, who will spend Christmas and the early part of the New Year in Australia, has been linked with a move to Kildare, and his former club and county team-mate Walsh says he would understand if the player decided to turn his back on Cavan and line out for another county in 2012.

Former AFL recruit Walsh, who is a strength and conditioning coach with new Aussie Rules franchise Greater Western Sydney, said in the Irish News: "I know the way that it was left in terms of him and Val Andrews and Cavan, he was very disappointed.

"Seanie's only 26-27 years of age and probably one of the top footballers in Ulster and I think he's being denied the opportunity to play at the level he wants to.

"He hasn't made a decision and obviously with work commitments and that it just depends, but if he got the right job opportunity and the opportunity to move to another county, then I'd be wishing him the best of luck.

"Seanie's a great footballer and he needs to be playing football at the top level and if Cavan can't provide that and he's not getting the opportunity under the current management, then I'd have no qualms with him going and playing with another county."
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on December 22, 2011, 09:41:26 PM
How does a story like this get to "print". It's not like journalist bumped into Walsh given that he is in Australia. To me it reads like some gaels buddies painting the "doomsday" scenario that Johnston will walk if Andrews doesn't change his mind. Im looking forward to see can the new team gel better without him, especially in the forwards. I suspect they will.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on December 23, 2011, 11:29:42 AM
I should have indicated that I took it from HS. 

SJ should be relishing his time off.  I'd say he'll be back for the Championship and that hopefully other players may have cemented their place in the team so that  SJ has to fight for his place.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on December 23, 2011, 11:50:24 AM
What are the opinions on the dramatic new changes being introduced to club football in the county?
I would like to see a full run down of all the changes but I am led to believe that this years Division One league will decide the future make up of the Senior Championship. Basically the top nine teams in the 2012 league will compete at Senior Championship level on their own. The remaining seven? clubs will be relegated to Intermediate but will all have to join with other Junior or Intermediate clubs to compete in the Senior Championship. The Intermediate and Junior Championships will be run earlier in the year.
I am fully behind the attempts to get a stronger Senior Championship and give everybody a chance to play at Senior level. However I feel that the means by which they will be grading clubs is wrong. Clubs will be judged on their league form this year instead of championship. The Championship is where a club will show its true potential (if at all) IMO.
I would agree with the end result but I'm just not sure that the methods to get there are correct.
Anybody able to shed some further light on the changes?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on December 23, 2011, 01:20:43 PM
Quote from: boojangles on December 23, 2011, 11:50:24 AM
What are the opinions on the dramatic new changes being introduced to club football in the county?
I would like to see a full run down of all the changes but I am led to believe that this years Division One league will decide the future make up of the Senior Championship. Basically the top nine teams in the 2012 league will compete at Senior Championship level on their own. The remaining seven? clubs will be relegated to Intermediate but will all have to join with other Junior or Intermediate clubs to compete in the Senior Championship. The Intermediate and Junior Championships will be run earlier in the year.
I am fully behind the attempts to get a stronger Senior Championship and give everybody a chance to play at Senior level. However I feel that the means by which they will be grading clubs is wrong. Clubs will be judged on their league form this year instead of championship. The Championship is where a club will show its true potential (if at all) IMO.
I would agree with the end result but I'm just not sure that the methods to get there are correct.
Anybody able to shed some further light on the changes?

Doomed to fail in my opinion. I have never seen anything but disdain for senior level amalgamations. Can't see how this will change. Back when I was playing St josephs (Killeshandra, Cornafean and Arva) used to amalgamate for senior championship. There was normally one other team and the amalgamated teams had to play off for thr right to enter the senior champ proper. Neither team won a game in it I don't think. Maybe it is different now for some reason.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on December 23, 2011, 02:57:26 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on December 23, 2011, 01:20:43 PM
Quote from: boojangles on December 23, 2011, 11:50:24 AM
What are the opinions on the dramatic new changes being introduced to club football in the county?
I would like to see a full run down of all the changes but I am led to believe that this years Division One league will decide the future make up of the Senior Championship. Basically the top nine teams in the 2012 league will compete at Senior Championship level on their own. The remaining seven? clubs will be relegated to Intermediate but will all have to join with other Junior or Intermediate clubs to compete in the Senior Championship. The Intermediate and Junior Championships will be run earlier in the year.
I am fully behind the attempts to get a stronger Senior Championship and give everybody a chance to play at Senior level. However I feel that the means by which they will be grading clubs is wrong. Clubs will be judged on their league form this year instead of championship. The Championship is where a club will show its true potential (if at all) IMO.
I would agree with the end result but I'm just not sure that the methods to get there are correct.
Anybody able to shed some further light on the changes?

Doomed to fail in my opinion. I have never seen anything but disdain for senior level amalgamations. Can't see how this will change. Back when I was playing St josephs (Killeshandra, Cornafean and Arva) used to amalgamate for senior championship. There was normally one other team and the amalgamated teams had to play off for thr right to enter the senior champ proper. Neither team won a game in it I don't think. Maybe it is different now for some reason.

I'm led to believe that every club in the county will have to be represented in the Senior Championship. So it seems like the County Board are really pushing for this. Who chooses the make-up of the amalgamations I am not sure. It appears that there could be up to five clubs in some amalgamations which is unworkable IMO.
There will be alot of Senior clubs in a tricky situation. Do they do their damndest to stay as a Senior club on their own to compete at Championship level or do they take their chances in Intermediate and decide that its better to try and amalgamate to win a Senior championship.
Interesting times ahead.

On another note, I seen the annual convention report where the County Board recorded a surplus (profit) of around 150k for this year. Considering the costs involved in bringing home two cups at provincial level the County Board and all involved deserve serious credit. Lets hope these profits can be re-invested to continue with the great strides that have been made in the last few years in Coaching and Development within schools and at grass roots level.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on December 23, 2011, 04:34:57 PM
Re John Morrison.

Quote from: Rufus T Firefly on December 23, 2011, 02:38:31 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on December 10, 2011, 05:17:43 PM
According to our county board he will be back training Cavan in January!

Talking to the great man yesterday - and have to say he looked very well, out and about!

Glad to see it!!   :)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on December 23, 2011, 07:35:39 PM
Quote from: boojangles on December 23, 2011, 02:57:26 PM
Who chooses the make-up of the amalgamations I am not sure. It appears that there could be up to five clubs in some amalgamations which is unworkable IMO.

The County Board decides who is involved in each amalgamation....
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on December 23, 2011, 09:54:38 PM
Quote from: Celt_Man on December 23, 2011, 07:35:39 PM
Quote from: boojangles on December 23, 2011, 02:57:26 PM
Who chooses the make-up of the amalgamations I am not sure. It appears that there could be up to five clubs in some amalgamations which is unworkable IMO.

The County Board decides who is involved in each amalgamation....

Clubs must be bordering and they wont force teams who dont want to join into joining.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Breffni_Yank on December 28, 2011, 12:45:52 AM
Well Lads, hope you all had a good christmas and rested up.

Whole new season for Cavan and for once I think there is genuinely  a bit of optimism.

What are we looking to get out this year? Any word in the McKenna Cup panel? Seen most counties have released their squad at this stage.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on December 29, 2011, 11:38:30 AM
When was the last time CG had a homegrown manager?

Best of luck to him unless we have to play them in the championship of course.

From HS

Graham takes over Cavan Gaels
19 December 2011


Mickey Graham will be in charge of Cavan Gaels in 2012Former Cavan Ulster SFC winner Mickey Graham has taken the reins of Breffni County champions Cavan Gaels following Saturday's club AGM.

Graham, who managed the Cavan minors for three seasons, takes over from Fermanagh man Darren Chapman, who parted ways with the Cavan town club after leading them to a 12th Oliver Plunkett Cup success.

The Cavan Gaels man takes charge of his native club with a strong track record, having led neighbours Drumalee to an intermediate championship success in 2006 and steered Ballyhaise to back-to-back U21 championship triumphs.This past September saw Graham help Clonguish to the Longford SFC final where they suffered a narrow 0-7 to 0-6 defeat at the hands of defending champions Longford Slashers.

The ex-Cavan sharpshooter's chief objective in 2012 will undoubtedly be to lead his new side back to the senior championship title, with a more formidable run in the Ulster club SFC also likely to be on the agenda should the Terry Coyle Park outfit retain their crown next October.

Meanwhile, Graham's former Breffni colleague Jason O'Reilly has been appointed as Lacken's new senior trainer for the 2012 season in what is the Belturbet man's first club managerial role, having been part of Graham's backroom team with the Cavan minors last season.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on December 29, 2011, 05:03:02 PM
McKenna Cup starting in 10 days and still no squad announced. The moaning about the exclusion of certain players is going to happen at some stage perhaps Val should be getting this over with sooner rather than later? Or maybe he's not going to announce a squad to the media at all for this reason.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on December 31, 2011, 01:40:47 PM
Best of luck to you all for 2012. 2011 was probably our best year at inter county level since 97 (well taking underage stuff into account) and our best year at underage level in my lifetime so plenty to be optimistic about. You'd have to be hopeful we can be very competitive again at Under 21 level in 2012. Senior in 2012??? would be a bit worried that it may take a while for things to turn around. We could do with Val discovering a Jason Ryan type persona pretty fast.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on January 02, 2012, 12:48:56 PM
Hope everyone enjoyed the holidays. I understand that the seniors have been training extremely hard over the past month or two (on an individual basis of course and not as a team!) so I expect they should be in good condition for the mckenna cup. However, given the age of the panel I also expect that we will be short a lot of lads who will be with their college teams. I also heard from a pretty good source that Sean Johnston is indeed wanting to go to Kildare but he also wants to stay with the Gaels and that will not be do-able so it looks like he'll be stuck in limbo. Maybe he might settle the head a bit and get back to his best as a footballer and I'm sure the county team will come looking for him again.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on January 02, 2012, 03:57:31 PM
The Seniors have been training very hard, I know one lad in particular (fond of a good time usually) was in the gym Christmas day and not even out on New Years Eve. They're going hell for leather at the early part of the year. They'll be wanting to peak for the League. Andrews has basically said as much. The McKenna cup gets going next week so it'll be nice to have something to talk about on here besides speculation!

Speaking of which, coming from a source close to Johnston, he won't be going to Kildare due to work commitments. But if Cavan come calling if/when things are going badly, Johnston won't be rejoining under Andrews.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on January 03, 2012, 11:47:56 PM
Played Meath in Navan tonight. Lost 14 points to 1-7. Played into a gale in the first half. Team:

FReilly, FSlowey, SMcCormack, OMinagh, DO'Dowd, PReilly, DO'Reilly, DGivney, GMcKiernan, SGaffney, EKeating, SJordan, RGalligan, RCullivan, DMcKiernan.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on January 04, 2012, 10:10:20 AM
Quote from: Westside on January 03, 2012, 11:47:56 PM
Played Meath in Navan tonight. Lost 14 points to 1-7. Played into a gale in the first half. Team:

FReilly, FSlowey, SMcCormack, OMinagh, DO'Dowd, PReilly, DO'Reilly, DGivney, GMcKiernan, SGaffney, EKeating, SJordan, RGalligan, RCullivan, DMcKiernan.

Biggest ff line we've had in a long time.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Breffni_Yank on January 04, 2012, 12:21:17 PM
Quote from: Westside on January 03, 2012, 11:47:56 PM
Played Meath in Navan tonight. Lost 14 points to 1-7. Played into a gale in the first half. Team:

FReilly, FSlowey, SMcCormack, OMinagh, DO'Dowd, PReilly, DO'Reilly, DGivney, GMcKiernan, SGaffney, EKeating, SJordan, RGalligan, RCullivan, DMcKiernan.

Is there many lads to come back into that team?
Only two u21's there. Would most be tied up with college teams at this stage?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on January 04, 2012, 01:47:10 PM
Sean McCormack is a decent full back. He was on the panel last year for the league but didn't get any game time, he should be able to nail down a place this year if he gets a regular place on the team. I think Niall Murray and Maloney Derham are playing in the O'Byrne cup with UCD. Mcdermott could be involved with DCU aswell..
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: club_man on January 04, 2012, 02:04:26 PM
McDermott is finished Col so won't be with DCU
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on January 04, 2012, 09:52:24 PM
Jaysus there is some muck being talked on that hoganstand website. Apparently its a disgrace that there is no panel named. The reason there is no panel is that the team can't be accused of collective training if there is no panel - don't want to break them rules. The lads are busting their holes 6 days a week yet these boys reckon the team that played that challenge was dragged together at the last minute for the game. If only Seanie wasn't in Australia, apparently a 50% Seanie is better than any of the other players. With fans like that who needs Meath or Monaghan. Whats the point bitching about stuff at the start of the season? Give them a bloody chance.

Anyone knows is James Reilly involved or not?

I wouldn't pay much heed to the McKenna cup, even if we were to get a thumping. Its all about trying lads out and then getting a strong panel for the league.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on January 05, 2012, 09:26:11 AM

QuoteThe lads are busting their holes 6 days a week yet these boys reckon the team that played that challenge was dragged together at the last minute for the game.

I think that is just the village idiot trying to be smart.


Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: whats my name on January 05, 2012, 05:21:05 PM
in fairness the lads are putting in a huge effort this year they are training between 4-5 nights a week aswell a gym work on top of that they have a sports performace company in called nada who work out of the aviva stadium wo are doing special performance enhancing training with them every week so from what im hearing a huge effort is being put in by all the lads the aim is to make progress in the league this year
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on January 06, 2012, 10:12:40 PM
Starting team and subs for Sunday.

    Fintan Reilly

Oisin Minagh, Sean McCormack, Fergal Slowey,

Dane O'Dowd, Padraigh O'Reilly, Damien O'Reilly,
   
  Gearoid McKiernan, David Givney,
   
Mark McKeever, Ray Cullivan, Stephen Jordan,

Niall McDermott, Eugene Keating, Raymond Galligan,

Colm Courtney,
Keith Fannin,
Barry Watters,
Brendan Fitzpatrick,
Conor McClarey,
Damien Barkey,
Declan McKiernan,
Joey Jordan,
John McCutcheon,
Niall Smith,
Barry McKiernan,
Sean Gaffney
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dougal on January 07, 2012, 01:01:55 AM
givney and keating played for sligo during the week,are they allowed to play in both comps? + they have a game in london at half 6 tomorrow evening.is gearoid not with DIT aswell?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Breffni_Yank on January 07, 2012, 01:46:21 AM
Quote from: Dougal on January 07, 2012, 01:01:55 AM
givney and keating played for sligo during the week,are they allowed to play in both comps? + they have a game in london at half 6 tomorrow evening.is gearoid not with DIT aswell?

They didn't according to the Independent -
GALWAY -- B O'Donoghue; K McGrath, K Kelly, D O'Neill; C Halloran, G Bradshaw, D O'Reilly; F O Curraoin, P Conroy; C Kenny, C Bane, M Boyle; A Murphy, J J Greaney, S Maughan.

Subs: C Maloney for Bane, C Forde for Sweeney, T Flynn for Bane, N Coleman for Greaney.

SLIGO IT -- A Faherty; D Maye, K Kane, J Kelly; D Drake, D Geraghty, R Donovan; G Kane, S Ryder; G Gaughan, P Garvey, R Ryan; D Cummins, K Sweeny, S Henry.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: whats my name on January 07, 2012, 10:17:24 AM
the reason none of the collage players played with their respective collages is because val wants a full team to pick from for the mckenna cup so he can have a settled team going into the league when it starts
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on January 07, 2012, 11:51:55 AM
Good to see Barry Watters back. 
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dougal on January 07, 2012, 02:20:04 PM
sportsnewsireland had them on the team sheet and even had keating down as a scorer.possibly put up last years team sheet or something like that
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on January 07, 2012, 03:23:44 PM
Apparently Niall Smith may be starting.. Presumably ahead of McKeever or Jordan. Where is Feargal Flanagan and Michael Brady and McEnroe?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on January 07, 2012, 03:27:37 PM
nice to have a bit of football to talk about again. Looks like we're going with a fair bit of youth so I'm glad to see Fannin and Joey Jordan on the bench at least. If they are putting in the effort that's been asked of everyone else they could be a fair addition come the league. Looks like there's been a bit of a cleanout and from what we heard about last years episodes with Under 21's not exactly getting the warmest of welcomes into the senior panel it was probably needed. The one missing name that catches my attention is Ronan Flanagan, can anybody cast some light on that?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on January 07, 2012, 03:30:02 PM
AC39 apparently Ronan Flanagan has a long term injury and may not be involved..
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Breffni_Yank on January 07, 2012, 03:37:11 PM
Quote from: Westside on January 07, 2012, 03:23:44 PM
Apparently Niall Smith may be starting.. Presumably ahead of McKeever or Jordan. Where is Feargal Flanagan and Michael Brady and McEnroe?

I'd imagine Flanagan and Brady are playing with the u21's? Can't see Hyland changing his policy of not releasing them after the success they enjoyed last year. Enough lads should be coming through that aren't underage anymore
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dougal on January 07, 2012, 03:50:08 PM
Quote from: Breffni_Yank on January 07, 2012, 03:37:11 PM
Quote from: Westside on January 07, 2012, 03:23:44 PM
Apparently Niall Smith may be starting.. Presumably ahead of McKeever or Jordan. Where is Feargal Flanagan and Michael Brady and McEnroe?

I'd imagine Flanagan and Brady are playing with the u21's? Can't see Hyland changing his policy of not releasing them after the success they enjoyed last year. Enough lads should be coming through that aren't underage anymore

was talking to fergal last week and said he wasnt on the seniors due to playing with the u21s and id imagine its the same with brady alright
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on January 07, 2012, 04:32:27 PM
Ah of course, completely forgot they were both still U21..
I found the Hoganstand comment about Johnston's dropping quite funny, "Seems in cavan two footed scoring forwards are not needed. Roadrunners the order of the day"

Jaysus lads it's a bad day when you'd bring in Niall McDermott and Ray Galligan as roadrunners!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on January 07, 2012, 05:16:53 PM
Ray Gallligan has everything but speed so he is far from a roadrunner.. Bit surprised Joey Jordan is involved with the county panel again, he hadn't been on it for a couple of years.. He was good back then but i don't think he is as good as he was. No sign of cullivan among the subs. Sean Gaffney and Barry Mckiernan are both new on the panel, good players, be interesting to see how they fair out.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on January 07, 2012, 05:55:10 PM
Quote from: Westside on January 07, 2012, 04:32:27 PM
Ah of course, completely forgot they were both still U21..
I found the Hoganstand comment about Johnston's dropping quite funny, "Seems in cavan two footed scoring forwards are not needed. Roadrunners the order of the day"

Jaysus lads it's a bad day when you'd bring in Niall McDermott and Ray Galligan as roadrunners!

That guys an idiot! Must be some player this 2 footed legend, maybe even good enough to shoot from Australia and score in Celtic park.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on January 07, 2012, 06:15:34 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on January 07, 2012, 05:16:53 PM
Ray Gallligan has everything but speed so he is far from a roadrunner.. Bit surprised Joey Jordan is involved with the county panel again, he hadn't been on it for a couple of years.. He was good back then but i don't think he is as good as he was. No sign of cullivan among the subs. Sean Gaffney and Barry Mckiernan are both new on the panel, good players, be interesting to see how they fair out.

Cullivan starts at centre forward.
Cavan U21's beat Roscommon in the Hastings Cup by a point today. Another good run in the U21 Campaign would be a huge boost and could really put a confidence back into our underage sides.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dougal on January 07, 2012, 06:16:48 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on January 07, 2012, 05:16:53 PM
Ray Gallligan has everything but speed so he is far from a roadrunner.. Bit surprised Joey Jordan is involved with the county panel again, he hadn't been on it for a couple of years.. He was good back then but i don't think he is as good as he was. No sign of cullivan among the subs. Sean Gaffney and Barry Mckiernan are both new on the panel, good players, be interesting to see how they fair out.

Because he's centre half forward  ;)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on January 07, 2012, 06:19:04 PM
Quote from: Dougal on January 07, 2012, 06:16:48 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on January 07, 2012, 05:16:53 PM
Ray Gallligan has everything but speed so he is far from a roadrunner.. Bit surprised Joey Jordan is involved with the county panel again, he hadn't been on it for a couple of years.. He was good back then but i don't think he is as good as he was. No sign of cullivan among the subs. Sean Gaffney and Barry Mckiernan are both new on the panel, good players, be interesting to see how they fair out.

Because he's centre half forward  ;)

:D :D :D :D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanforever on January 07, 2012, 06:24:30 PM
i believe ronan flanagan still has a bit of an occurance of the injury he got last year and is only doing the gym work at present. no harm as he needs a bit of a break in fairness, the man has been going non stop for at least 5 years with no break between couny college and club
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on January 07, 2012, 07:20:18 PM
Haha my bad,  :-[ yeah he was playing against Meath the other night so was thinking he couldn't have disappeared that quick!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on January 07, 2012, 07:46:58 PM
Good to see a GAABoard poster on the panel.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on January 07, 2012, 11:39:53 PM
I believe the under 21 score was 1-12 to 1-11, played in roscommon. The Hastings cup ended up being a good measure of the national standard last yr with Cavan and Ros winning their province and longford narrowly losing theirs.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on January 08, 2012, 02:02:53 PM
Podge Reilly Captain and Givney vice captain for the year..
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on January 08, 2012, 02:33:21 PM
Derry 6 - 5 up close to half time
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on January 08, 2012, 02:40:51 PM
Derry 7 Cavan 5 at half time.  Damien Barkey for O Minagh after 7 mins and Dane o Dowd for F Slowey after 27 mins
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on January 08, 2012, 02:53:16 PM
Quote from: Celt_Man on January 08, 2012, 02:40:51 PM
Derry 7 Cavan 5 at half time.  Damien Barkey for O Minagh after 7 mins and Dane o Dowd for F Slowey after 27 mins

Is it on radio?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on January 08, 2012, 03:02:49 PM
Quote from: tommysmith on January 08, 2012, 02:53:16 PM
Quote from: Celt_Man on January 08, 2012, 02:40:51 PM
Derry 7 Cavan 5 at half time.  Damien Barkey for O Minagh after 7 mins and Dane o Dowd for F Slowey after 27 mins

Is it on radio?

Probably is.  I got that from Twitter
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on January 08, 2012, 03:04:11 PM
Cavan up by 2.  9 - 7.... McClarey on for Cullivan at h/t
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on January 08, 2012, 03:08:21 PM
All level on 0.09. Derry down to 14. 16 mins
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on January 08, 2012, 03:24:50 PM
Cavan 0.12 Derry 0.10 - around 60 minutes gone
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on January 08, 2012, 03:41:25 PM
Beaten by a point. 13-12.  Seemingly the better team up lacked it up front....
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on January 08, 2012, 03:47:03 PM
Up by 2 approaching the end and lost by 1. Disappointing. Encouraging to hear we were the better team though. Keating, Padraic Reilly and Watters all did well apparently.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanlad on January 08, 2012, 04:11:48 PM
Heard on the radio that Derry had 3 wides, with Cavan having 7 each half. Still, Cavan were the better team. Donegal lost to UUJ, i say there not worried about the McKenna Cup.

Cavan just need to play like today and they will get better with every game played.

Anyone, know the Cavan scorers.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on January 08, 2012, 05:26:19 PM
Pity to lose the game when so close to winning it but it is only effectively a challenge game.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Breffni_Yank on January 09, 2012, 11:48:31 AM
Couldn't make it up yesterday. Where do stand? Plenty of positives or same old Cavan throwing away a lead?

How did the full-back line go?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on January 09, 2012, 01:52:11 PM
This is the Derry take on the game.

http://sc1sports.com/derry-beat-cavan-are-we-on-the-right-track/
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanforever on January 09, 2012, 01:54:24 PM
good to see a few other cavan representatives playing for their colleges over the weekend. marc leddy was playing for sligo it while omara was in goals for DIT with ross sheridan and stephen cooney among the subs for them. dont know how the latter 2 are not in terry hylands u21 plans when playing at that level. not sure but think niall murray and simon cadden could have been representing ucd aswell
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dougal on January 09, 2012, 01:57:41 PM
who are sheridan cooney and cadden?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on January 09, 2012, 05:05:22 PM
Sheridan is from Killygarry, Cooney Castlerahan and Simon Cadden Ramor.

Cadden was on the u21 panel last year and i presume he is on this year aswell.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Breffni_Yank on January 09, 2012, 09:17:21 PM
Quote from: cavanforever on January 09, 2012, 01:54:24 PM
good to see a few other cavan representatives playing for their colleges over the weekend. marc leddy was playing for sligo it while omara was in goals for DIT with ross sheridan and stephen cooney among the subs for them. dont know how the latter 2 are not in terry hylands u21 plans when playing at that level. not sure but think niall murray and simon cadden could have been representing ucd aswell

I thought someone said all our lads are playing with their county? Does that mean them boys aren't in with Cavan?

Picked up the paper this morning. Jack Brady is with DCU as well I think.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on January 09, 2012, 10:08:08 PM
I think it's the u21 players who can play with the colleges like Jack Brady. They won't be involved with the Senior panel for the early stages of the league to concentrate on the u21 championship. I heard Brady had a great game with Dcu getting 3pts.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on January 10, 2012, 12:00:00 AM
Josh Hayes played for UCD in the O'Bryne Cup too... I know I'm biased but I really can't understand how he hasn't even gotten a look-in with the County.  Like it seems damn near everyone else was involved at some level, trials etc before Christmas
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on January 10, 2012, 10:00:29 PM
Quote from: Celt_Man on January 10, 2012, 12:00:00 AM
Josh Hayes played for UCD in the O'Bryne Cup too... I know I'm biased but I really can't understand how he hasn't even gotten a look-in with the County.  Like it seems damn near everyone else was involved at some level, trials etc before Christmas

Yes CM, Josh Hayes is a well worth a look. He is far superior to some of the players,which have played championship football for Cavan over the last number of years.
I was at a club fitness test Sunday,so couldn't make it down to Celtic Park,which i had planned to do to see the first and probably only time, 3 Ballyhaise Men were on the County team!!!!  :o
Can any of you lads tell me how Fergal , Sean Mac and Ray got on?
Fergal Slowey is a terrific footballer and one of the best man markers in the county,as any of the lads on here would tell you but id be worried his size (5'7) would work against him at IC level.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on January 11, 2012, 02:02:28 PM
It looks from this far remove, with the real stuff not due to start for a while yet, that Val has at least some sort of clear plan for the season ahead with regard to training and personnel and the work ethic required of those that make up his panel. WE have also yet to gauge the impact of John Morrison who I hope is back on the road to recovery.

If the reality is as positive as the soundings here and elsewhere would indicate - albeit without a ball really being kicked - then I welcome it. I've been praying for a proper clearout and fresh start for years, I really hope this is it.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on January 11, 2012, 02:31:05 PM
Apologies if posted before:

Ulster U21 FC, draw, TYrone and Down in the other side:

Prelim Round – 14th March: Fermanagh V Tyrone at Brewester Park

Ulster Quarter Finals – 21st March:
[a] Cavan V Armagh at Kingspan Breffni Park
Derry V Monaghan at Celtic Park
[c] Down V Antrim at Park Esler
[d] Donegal V Fermanagh or Tyrone

(if Donegal v Fermanagh at Ballyboefey, if Tyrone v Donegal at Healy Park.)

Ulster Semi Finals – 4th April
[a] V
[c] v [d]

Ulster Final – 11th April

*all games at 8.30 under lights*
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on January 11, 2012, 03:45:32 PM
Cavan U21's are also playing Leitrim on Friday next in Cloone at 8pm in the Hastings cup.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on January 14, 2012, 01:26:55 PM
Cavan bet leitrim 10 to 6 in Hastings cup last night. Anyone at it?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on January 14, 2012, 04:54:38 PM
Any word on the team for tomorrow?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Breffni_Yank on January 14, 2012, 05:38:53 PM

Following a very encouraging start against Derry in celtic park last Sunday, Cavan will be hoping to find a winning combination against Donegal in their first home game of the year. The management have stuck with 13 players who featured last Sunday and added Killeshandra's Declan McKiernan along side Cootehill's John McCutcheon who is no stranger to Cavan supporters.

    Fintan Reilly

Barry Waters, Sean McCormack, Damien Barkey,

Dane O'Dowd, Padraic O'Reilly, John McCutcheon,
   

   
Gearoid McKiernan, David Givney,
   


Niall Smith, Declan McKiernan, Stephen Jordan,


Niall McDermott, Eugene Keating, Raymond Galligan,
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tierworker blue on January 15, 2012, 05:24:11 PM
Did'nt make it to Breffni today (damn this work getting in the way of watching ball!) Good win it seems.
Any reports?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on January 15, 2012, 08:00:02 PM
Cavan 1-14 Donegal 2-08

We made it very hard for ourselves today, we were 10 points a better team than Donegal,but due to poor shooting and dropping the ball short into the goalkeepers hands,Donegal countered and scored on the break.
Virtually all the good pieces of play came from Cavan.

1. Fintan Reily
Kickouts were in the most part good,had no chance with the goal.

2.Barry Watters
Absolutely outstanding,
His marker brought him out around the midfield area, where he had a serious impact. He was at the heart of nearly all of Cavan's best play.

3.Sean McCormack
Sean wasn't in the game very much,he hadn't a hell of alot to do and touched the ball no more than  a handful of times. Solid

4.Damien Barkey,
He went off injured after about 1o minutes
(Replaced by Fergal Slowey)
Fergal started off slowly,giving away a free and being caught for a point,but he was v good after,and stuck to the Brick Molloy like glue when he came on.

5.Dane O Dowd
Looks very assured at half back and his movement with the ball was exceptional.
He is the most improved player on the Cavan panel from where he was when he came on the panel.
He is not going to be easily shifted out of this position.

6. Podge
Solid,covered the full back throughout the game rarely venturing over half-way.
Was always in support to help his fellow defenders out.

7.John McCutcheon
Lack of fitness was clear which is to be expected due to the amount of training he has missed due to injury.
He is one of the first names on the teamsheet anyway.

8.Gearoid McKiernan
Very good in the air and on the ground,kicked some good points and carried the ball well,and alongside Givney dominated aerially around the centre.

9.David Givney
Won his usual amount of posession aerially, got on the ball alot and distributed it very well, the only bad part was a few wild shots.

10. Niall Smith
Oustanding throughout, ball carrying was top notch, and he scored 0-3/0-4 from play. Dropped one short after a brilliant run in the first half which was punished

11.Declan Mckiernan
Quiet first half,when he looked very sluggish,getting robbed easily for one of Donegals scored.
2nd half, he influenced the game far more,kicking a great score and getting on alot of ball.

12. Stephen Jordan
Worked hard and done the simple things well but he is not a natural  forward,he would be better suited in the back line.

13.Niall McDermott
came alive after about 20 minutes and was very accurate from the dead ball, and scored the penalty.

14.Eugene Keating
Scored a great point,won a lot of posession and got stuck in, throwing his weight around.

15. Raymond Galligan
Free taking off the ground was mostly very good,even though he dropped one short and missed another one.
Fantastic catch before getting taken down for the penalty and a terrific individual effort in the 2nd half when he turned his man and slotted over from near the endline on the stand-side.

Mark McKeever
Ray Cullivan
Conor McClarey
Came on near the end
Not sure if a 5th sub came on as i was half way to Dublin at that stage  :P

Good points

Some very good interchanges,support play
Good workrate
Midfield dominance
Some great individual scores.

Bad parts
Got caught badly by Donegal counterattacks in the first half
Shooting overall was poor again.
Ball handling was poor,too much ball was spilled.

A scoreline of 1-20 to 2-08 would have been a fairer reflection of Cavan's dominance over what was a poor Donegal outfit.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tierworker blue on January 15, 2012, 09:48:30 PM
Cheers horse!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Breffni_Yank on January 16, 2012, 03:21:46 PM
You can only beat whatever team is in front of you so I would be happy that we got our first win of the season and scored 1-14. Shipping 2-08 in at the other end against a seriously understrength Donegal team would be a worry though. Our defence has been letting us down for years and its somethign we hav to improve if we want to start doing better.

You have to give it to the players though there is no doubt they are trying hard. Over the past few years McKenna Cup games always looked like they didn't matter because all our 'high profile' students would just come back in for the League. At least that seems to have changed.

Great to see Gearoid and Givney getting a few games together in midfield. Last year Val would never put them together. In them two we could have one of the best midfields in the country for quite a while.

Where has Barry Watters been since he was minor?

Brady and O'Mara both seemingly played well with their colleges again over the weekend. Brady got 1-3 which is some going for a lad that is not long out of minor.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dougal on January 16, 2012, 03:48:20 PM
Quote from: Breffni_Yank on January 16, 2012, 03:21:46 PM
Where has Barry Watters been since he was minor?

Brady and O'Mara both seemingly played well with their colleges again over the weekend. Brady got 1-3 which is some going for a lad that is not long out of minor.

True,our defense still looks quite shakey but hopefully that will improve.

think barry had quite a bad knee injury and then went to australia for a year or two.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on January 17, 2012, 08:02:15 AM
From Last Saturdays Star........

I think we should all join together and get a collection for his 10k and be rid of this fella.

Edit **Also, according to todays indo he has told them he wants to play with Kildare and that he lives in Straffan, Co Kildare (strange place to live when you work in Cavan?) I think this clearly shows him for what he is. Best that he heads off and hopefully he'll be sitting on his arse watching this Cavan team win Ulster in a few years**

Cavan Star Seanie Johnston's proposed transfer to Kildare has suffered a major blow after he lost an appeal at Croke Park on Wednesday Night.
The Irish Daily Star has learned that a hearing was also rejected pre-Christmas—but that Johnston appealed on a technicality.
Johnaton could now take his case to the Disputes Resolution Authority (DRA) but could face a major financial hit of up to €10,000 if he looses.
The brilliant forward was axed from the Cavan squad by boss Val Andrews but he is determined to rekindle his county career elsewhere with Kildare his favoured destination.

APPEAL

A GAA source has revealed that Johnston's appeal was based on a technicality that county transfer's were not fully covered in the GAA rulebook.
The player argued that he wanted to declare for Kildare and not transfer to the county, but the Central Appeals Committee (CAC) threw his case out.
It is understood that Johnston's move to Kildare would contravene the GAA Rulebook on transfers and that the floodgates for disgruntled county players.
If he opts to go to the DRA a deposit of €1,000 is required and the loser has to pay their own legal fees and that of the other party. Which are often in excess of €10,000.
Croke Park would contest any DRA hearing vigorously as it would be a test case and it is unlikely to be successful.

Superb

The Kildare County Board have denied any knowledge of a Johnston transfer to date and it is understood they have played no role in any such move.
Johnston is a superb talent, who would add to Kildare's firepower up front, but he was off-colour when playing last year.
Johnston who was Andrews captain last year was unavailable for comment last night.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on January 17, 2012, 09:28:40 AM
Anyone who follows any of the Cavan lads on twitter would have seen this already but Nesty tweeted something to the effect of "It's a disgrace that a county as small as Cavan can let a player of the calibre of Johnston go to another county" Johnston replied with "You speak a lot of sense my friend, driven out of football" The lad has some opinion of himself. He also tweets random cryptic expressions like "Honesty is the best policy"
He's like one of those birds on facebook who post stuff for attention when they break up with their boyfriend.

Should Val have just came out and told the media the reason for dropping Johnston?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on January 17, 2012, 09:42:58 AM
http://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-football/cavan-star-johnston-poised-to-take-dra-route-in-bid-to-join-mcgeeneys-kildare-2990257.html

Cavan star Johnston poised to take DRA route in bid to join McGeeney's Kildare

Cavan's Seanie Johnston is hoping to continue his inter-county career with Kildare on the basis that he is now resident in the county


Colm Keys


Tuesday January 17 2012

Cavan footballer Seanie Johnston used an address in Straffan to correspond with Croke Park over his attempt to seek an inter-county transfer to Kildare last week, it has emerged.

Over the weekend Johnston, eager to switch to the Lilywhites having been dropped from the Breffni panel in October, met with officials of his club Cavan Gaels to urge them to support him with a case to the Disputes Resolution Authority in the coming days.

He has until Thursday to seek a DRA hearing, seven days on from his failure at Central Appeals level in Croke Park.

Johnston is believed to have had talks with Kildare manager Kieran McGeeney over a prospective move.

Naturally the acquisition of a talented forward like Johnston would appeal to McGeeney and align with his attempts to build a stronger squad in 2012, especially up front where real cutting edge has been a problem in the bigger games.

But so far Johnston has been unwilling to seek a transfer away from his club, with whom he has had so much success -- he was even captain of last year.

That may change, however, in the coming days if a club-backed DRA submission does not materialise.

"Any move to the DRA is a matter for the club now," he said. "I'm 27 now and I want to continue playing inter-county football but I don't want to leave my club. It's hugely important to me.

"But I'm resident in Kildare now and I'm surplus to requirements in Cavan. That much was clear from the 10-second conversation I had with the manager (Val Andrews) last October.

"But I still feel I have a lot to contribute at inter-county level. You only have short time at this level and I'd like to make it count."

Johnston submitted a letter to Croke Park prior to Christmas seeking an inter-county transfer on the basis that he had an address in Straffan in Kildare.

The request was turned down because it contravened GAA rules which require that a player can only play for a county if he is a native of it or plays with a club within that county. Residency is not sufficient.

In some cases, if one of the parents of the player comes from a particular county then the player can declare for that county. Cavan were able to bring Gareth Smith on board in 2009 through this facility despite the fact that he lived in Dublin and played with St Oliver Plunketts Eoghan Ruadh.

Johnston brought his case to the appeals committee on Wednesday night last and Croke Park are understood to have corresponded with him through his Straffan address. He works as a teacher in Breffni College in Cavan town.

The cost of a DRA hearing could be prohibitive for an individual. On top of the €1,000 submission fee there are legal fees to consider if a case against the GAA is lost, which could climb up to the region of €5,000 or beyond.

Johnston accepts that if there is no DRA hearing he would be faced with a stark choice -- to leave his club to pursue his inter-county dream.

"Someone else has made a decision to end my inter-county career. I respect a manager's right to make that decision. But does that mean that I have to cease being an inter-county player?" he asked.

"If there is no DRA move I have a decision to make then, one which I would make carefully after sitting down with people close to me.

"Some people will be annoyed with me in Cavan over my wish to move, but these are the circumstances I find myself in. I'm no longer a Cavan player."

The former DCU student, who spent Christmas in Australia, has been Cavan's highest-profile forward in recent years, but had a poor 2011 on the field for both club and county.

"I'd admit that I was poor, but I would add that it was one of Cavan's poorest seasons too," he said.

When Andrews was putting together a squad for 2012 last October, Johnston, his Cavan Gaels clubmate Micheal Lyng and Dermot Sheridan from Mullahoran were among the more established players omitted.

"The conversation to tell me I was surplus to requirements lasted no more than 10 seconds. I knew it was coming because Micheal Lyng, who is a friend of mine, also got the same call and was asked if he had my number," said Johnston.

"I wasn't looking for anything special but after nine seasons with the county I might have been entitled to a little more compassion."

Andrews could not be contacted last night.

It is not clear if Johnston's omission from the squad will remain for the entire season or if there will be an opportunity for him to return.

Cavan PRO Declan Woods believes it is not a matter for the board to comment on Johnston's appeal.

"The issue is for Croke Park really and how they deal with it. We're happy to leave it in their hands. Obviously we recognise the right of a manager we have appointed to make decision on team and squad selection as he or they see fit," said Woods.

There is a growing feeling that Johnston may be leaning towards a move away from Cavan Gaels to a club in Kildare, which would facilitate his objective.

Cavan Gaels continue to keep an open line of communication with the player and last night their chairman Michael Mooney expressed the desire that he would be back in a Cavan jersey soon.

"We've been discussing the situation with Seanie and we're working towards trying to find a solution," said Mooney. "Obviously we don't want to see one of our players leave the club or indeed the county."

Of how much benefit Johnston would be to Kildare -- who badly need to increase their goal ratio if they are to make that next step up and join Gaelic football's current elite -- is debatable. Even last Sunday in the O'Byrne Cup they dominated a game against Offaly but failed to score a goal.

They have no natural predatory goalscorer, but Johnston has never scored a championship goal with Cavan in eight seasons covering more than 20 appearances. He is, however, a prolific point scorer.

- Colm Keys

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: TheThirdManning on January 17, 2012, 11:37:48 AM
Looks like you have a player there that just wants to be knows as an Inter-County footballer and not as a Cavan player.

No wonder Val Andrews gave him the chop.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Breffni_Yank on January 17, 2012, 01:28:24 PM
Quote from: Thastheball on January 17, 2012, 12:36:37 PM
Quote from: TheThirdManning on January 17, 2012, 11:37:48 AM
Looks like you have a player there that just wants to be knows as an Inter-County footballer and not as a Cavan player.

No wonder Val Andrews gave him the chop.

I have no idea how you can come to that conclusion. Cavan dropped him from playing county football. He never at any time made himself unavailable to Cavan, until he was dropped from the panel with no suggestion that he will be asked back.

Are you saying he should just accept that he is no longer required to play for cavan and forget about it, or do, as he is doing, try amd make his county career last as long as possible with another team who would select him unto their panel.

I would imagine he was implying that Johnston should have taken been dropped on the chin, looked in the mirror and decided how he can force his way into Val's plans, and then go back to the Gaels and get stuck in.

And for me Thastheball, playing inter-county football is all about representing where you come from and playing with fellas you grew up with and played against.

Going by your logic Cavan should just start accceptings fellas in from Kerry, Tyrone and Dublin that can't make their own team because they want to play county ball. Sure let's have an NFL style draft or bring in a transfer system while we are at it.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on January 17, 2012, 02:06:20 PM
Quote from: Thastheball on January 17, 2012, 12:36:37 PM
Quote from: TheThirdManning on January 17, 2012, 11:37:48 AM
Looks like you have a player there that just wants to be knows as an Inter-County footballer and not as a Cavan player.

No wonder Val Andrews gave him the chop.

I have no idea how you can come to that conclusion. Cavan dropped him from playing county football. He never at any time made himself unavailable to Cavan, until he was dropped from the panel with no suggestion that he will be asked back.

Are you saying he should just accept that he is no longer required to play for cavan and forget about it, or do, as he is doing, try amd make his county career last as long as possible with another team who would select him unto their panel.

He should suck it up, get back playing with his club and play his way back into the team. Not run of like the a primadonna. There is also more to the reason that he was dropped off the panel. Andrews didn't just decide one morning "I think I'll drop our most talented forward for the craic".
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on January 17, 2012, 02:17:06 PM
Richie - totally disagree with you. The manager picks the team and the panel. Johnston was poor last year on the field but it is quite clear something else was going on in the dressing room.  For example, our U21's were disgusted with the attitude in the camp when they came in. Johnston knows well why he is not being asked in. He has 2 choices now - fight for his place or run away. He chooses to run away. You talk about Andrews ego, come off it. Johnston is Mr Ego and everyone knows it. His main concern is playing "inter county" not playing for where he is from. You are also wrong about coaxing players. If you have to coax a player then he is not going to give you a 110%. Coax no one. Ask them for sure but beg - no way. There are plenty of men who would put their body on the line to represent a county like ours with its rich history.

In my opinion Andrews has made a decision that he is bringing in the youth and he is rightly not going to risk the good morale they bring with them by having people in the panel with a negative mindset. I think he is dead right and I expect his selectors were behind him on it too.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Ollie on January 17, 2012, 02:25:57 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on January 17, 2012, 02:06:20 PM
Quote from: Thastheball on January 17, 2012, 12:36:37 PM
Quote from: TheThirdManning on January 17, 2012, 11:37:48 AM
Looks like you have a player there that just wants to be knows as an Inter-County footballer and not as a Cavan player.

No wonder Val Andrews gave him the chop.

I have no idea how you can come to that conclusion. Cavan dropped him from playing county football. He never at any time made himself unavailable to Cavan, until he was dropped from the panel with no suggestion that he will be asked back.

Are you saying he should just accept that he is no longer required to play for cavan and forget about it, or do, as he is doing, try amd make his county career last as long as possible with another team who would select him unto their panel.

He should suck it up, get back playing with his club and play his way back into the team. Not run of like the a primadonna. There is also more to the reason that he was dropped off the panel. Andrews didn't just decide one morning "I think I'll drop our most talented forward for the craic".


He was told back in October that he wasn't wanted. So obviously Andrews had no intention of picking him regardless of his club form.

It be great for him if he gets a few seasons in Kildare while he's still in his prime. He's worked hard over the years to be the player he is today. The Gaels will cope without him although Ideally I'd like to see him playing with both.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Breffni_Yank on January 17, 2012, 02:47:04 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on January 17, 2012, 02:17:06 PM
Richie - totally disagree with you. The manager picks the team and the panel. Johnston was poor last year on the field but it is quite clear something else was going on in the dressing room.  For example, our U21's were disgusted with the attitude in the camp when they came in. Johnston knows well why he is not being asked in. He has 2 choices now - fight for his place or run away. He chooses to run away. You talk about Andrews ego, come off it. Johnston is Mr Ego and everyone knows it. His main concern is playing "inter county" not playing for where he is from. You are also wrong about coaxing players. If you have to coax a player then he is not going to give you a 110%. Coax no one. Ask them for sure but beg - no way. There are plenty of men who would put their body on the line to represent a county like ours with its rich history.

In my opinion Andrews has made a decision that he is bringing in the youth and he is rightly not going to risk the good morale they bring with them by having people in the panel with a negative mindset. I think he is dead right and I expect his selectors were behind him on it too.

I'm with you 100% on that post Myles. In theory we have two groups of players coming through now that have won something and you would imagine they would want to do so again. Sean wasn't dropped for a laugh. In clearing out the others I think Val has genuinely shown he has Cavan's long-term interests at heart. I imagine after reading that interview anyone that was on the fence, like I was, will side with Val.

I would rather pay my 10e in anyday to watch those lads empty their tanks and play for one another. Both teams played with passion last year that to be honest I had forgotten could even exist in Cavan. Everytime I saw both the minors and u21's play you walked out smiling because you know they gave their best for a jersey that they took pride in wearing. They didn't want to play 'inter-county'. They wanted to play for Cavan.

It probably wont be good enough this year or next year but considering the position our County is in in football rankings I'd be happy enough to watch us gradually improve whilst playing with pride and as a team.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on January 17, 2012, 02:55:27 PM
Quote from: Richiej on January 17, 2012, 02:35:13 PM
MYLESTHESLASHER.. If Seanie is dropped for disipline or for being disruptive why cant the management say so??
He wasnt given any explaination other than the management are going with youth and he wasnt needed. There was no talk of working his way back in. Thats the sad part.
There a player on the panel who refused to play 2 year ago. Seanie never refused to play did he?He has carried that forward line at times .
He was dropped from the gaels and lost the captaincy last year but he didnt run away did he?? Why? Because he was told he was still wanted.
Andrews has told him he is not wanted. But he hasnt replaced him with any better has he? Thats a minus in my eyes.

If he goes to Kildare and works under McGeeney who is a harder task master than Andrews and suceeds, well its going to make Andrews man management skills look a lot worse than they already are,

I know Seanie will play for Cavan long after the present management are long gone

Richie - He went off to the US in the middle of the championship before too didn't he?

btw - How do you know what the management said to him? I was under the impression you didn't know him.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Breffni_Yank on January 17, 2012, 03:25:14 PM
Quote from: Richiej on January 17, 2012, 03:14:36 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on January 17, 2012, 02:55:27 PM
Quote from: Richiej on January 17, 2012, 02:35:13 PM
MYLESTHESLASHER.. If Seanie is dropped for disipline or for being disruptive why cant the management say so??
He wasnt given any explaination other than the management are going with youth and he wasnt needed. There was no talk of working his way back in. Thats the sad part.
There a player on the panel who refused to play 2 year ago. Seanie never refused to play did he?He has carried that forward line at times .
He was dropped from the gaels and lost the captaincy last year but he didnt run away did he?? Why? Because he was told he was still wanted.
Andrews has told him he is not wanted. But he hasnt replaced him with any better has he? Thats a minus in my eyes.

If he goes to Kildare and works under McGeeney who is a harder task master than Andrews and suceeds, well its going to make Andrews man management skills look a lot worse than they already are,

I know Seanie will play for Cavan long after the present management are long gone

Richie - He went off to the US in the middle of the championship before too didn't he?

btw - How do you know what the management said to him? I was under the impression you didn't know him.

He was not alone in going to the US Myles. Keogan made his views public at the time, Seanie  later apologised and the issue was put to bed.

Andrews could have handled this alot better. We the general paying public are entitled to know who are in the panel and whos not.
Andrews never stated "ive dropped Seanie Johnston, Mickey Lyng Dermot Sheirdan because...?
Maybe the paying public are not owed explainations but this is the very manager who was moaning about faceless internet posters having a go at him.
Yet he does nothing to dispell any rumour. Its as if he thrives on being the big man.

His 2 year term is up for review at the end of this year. He wont get a 3rd term unless he gets promotion or wins at least one championship game. He had his settling in period last year. He moved the goalposts and got full control this year.
He cant keep team building forever. he needs to show improvement or hes history.

Of course it could have been handled better but I think Andrews is going to be around for another few years to be honest. He works well with Hyland who is dead set on churning out good under 21's team each year so as to give us a stong nuclues of a senior side in 4-5 years. If Hyland can keep up his recent successes at that grade then off the top of my head you would imagine he will handed the reigns when the time is right. Purely speculation of the top of my head of course but it makes sense to me. No point bringing in a new senior manager that might want to play a completely different style of football to what the products of the last two u21 teams have played in my opinion. Then we really are starting from scratch again
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on January 17, 2012, 03:29:12 PM
Quote from: Richiej on January 17, 2012, 03:14:36 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on January 17, 2012, 02:55:27 PM
Quote from: Richiej on January 17, 2012, 02:35:13 PM
MYLESTHESLASHER.. If Seanie is dropped for disipline or for being disruptive why cant the management say so??
He wasnt given any explaination other than the management are going with youth and he wasnt needed. There was no talk of working his way back in. Thats the sad part.
There a player on the panel who refused to play 2 year ago. Seanie never refused to play did he?He has carried that forward line at times .
He was dropped from the gaels and lost the captaincy last year but he didnt run away did he?? Why? Because he was told he was still wanted.
Andrews has told him he is not wanted. But he hasnt replaced him with any better has he? Thats a minus in my eyes.

If he goes to Kildare and works under McGeeney who is a harder task master than Andrews and suceeds, well its going to make Andrews man management skills look a lot worse than they already are,

I know Seanie will play for Cavan long after the present management are long gone

Richie - He went off to the US in the middle of the championship before too didn't he?

btw - How do you know what the management said to him? I was under the impression you didn't know him.

He was not alone in going to the US Myles. Keogan made his views public at the time, Seanie  later apologised and the issue was put to bed.

Andrews could have handled this alot better. We the general paying public are entitled to know who are in the panel and whos not.
Andrews never stated "ive dropped Seanie Johnston, Mickey Lyng Dermot Sheirdan because...?
Maybe the paying public are not owed explainations but this is the very manager who was moaning about faceless internet posters having a go at him.
Yet he does nothing to dispell any rumour. Its as if he thrives on being the big man.

His 2 year term is up for review at the end of this year. He wont get a 3rd term unless he gets promotion or wins at least one championship game. He had his settling in period last year. He moved the goalposts and got full control this year.
He cant keep team building forever. he needs to show improvement or hes history.

Agree with a lot of that Richie re improvement required. He will have to show an improvement as last year was a mess. However, we have to assume he knows what he is at and I for one have also been looking for a clean out and give young lads the chance. I can't accept he would drop a player of Johnstons ability for no reason, for the very reason you said - he needs to show an improvement. Given we have a senior team now that is new but is working hard all over the field I do expect an improvement and I'd be hopeful of a good league run.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on January 17, 2012, 07:38:29 PM
Ah Christ Richie nothing personal but I suppose it was a bit much to expect that you'd confine your pearls of wisdom the the Hogan Stand Site.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on January 17, 2012, 08:26:42 PM
I've nothing at all against Jelly but in fairness having read the article the one conclusion anybody would have to come to is that he is effectively ruling himself off the Cavan panel for at least as long as the current management is in charge if  not longer. You cannot seriously expect him to be brought back into the panel at any stage soon as you can only imagine the impact it would have on the group as a whole.

The best thing for Cavan at this stage is that we move on and see what the current changes bring. Initial signs are encouraging but we can expect progress to be slow. Will the lad be missed, I think he will but it's not going to be absolutely terminal-he was usually good for a few points a game from play but was never one for the vital goal a la jason reilly. Also, it would appear that he wasn't a fierce happy camper for the last few years and that can't have had a positive impact around the panel I'd imagine.

Gave good value over the years and fair play for that but time to move on. If he wins an All Ireland medal with Kildare best of luck to him . As a relatively oul fella myself you'd have to wonder will there be regrets 10 years from now though.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on January 17, 2012, 08:42:18 PM
Quote from: anglocelt39 on January 17, 2012, 07:38:29 PM
Ah Christ Richie nothing personal but I suppose it was a bit much to expect that you'd confine your pearls of wisdom the the Hogan Stand Site.

That's not very nice!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Benny on January 17, 2012, 09:25:13 PM
Mind you, for anyone that was there, Seanie Johnston's point taking display in the second half vs Wicklow in 2010 was a sight to behold!

Two things, firstly no-one as yet has mentioned McGeeney's input into this??? Did he whisper sweet nothings into Seanies ear and in some way contribute to this?? and secondly, as far as I'm aware no manager has to answer to the general paying public. Keeping the clubs happy is all he needs to worry about, as Mr Andrews well knows after previous experiences....
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on January 17, 2012, 10:03:40 PM
Quote from: Richiej on January 17, 2012, 09:00:46 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on January 17, 2012, 08:42:58 PM
Quote from: Richiej on January 17, 2012, 08:27:03 PM
Quote from: anglocelt39 on January 17, 2012, 07:38:29 PM
Ah Christ Richie nothing personal but I suppose it was a bit much to expect that you'd confine your pearls of wisdom the the Hogan Stand Site.

AND LET A TWO FACED **** LIKE YOU HAVE THE RUN OF ALL BOARDS?? NO CHANCE.............AT LEAST I USE THE SAME USERNAME ALL THE TIME!

That's not very nice either.

MYLES we are all entitled to our views. I havent taken anything personel with any poster. Yes il argue my point and my beliefs but thats where attacks should stop. We all have Cavan football at heart. Yes different views. What craic would there be if we all thought the same?

Agreed.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Cavanboy on January 17, 2012, 10:38:58 PM
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Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on January 17, 2012, 11:07:16 PM
Johnston will have his work cut out if the transfer does eventually go through.. Kildare have been flying so far this year, it's only the o'byrne cup but they are going well and still have a few lads coming back from injury. It would be a massive loss to Cavan Gaels. He might have been poor last year in the Ulster Club but in county championship he was still above everyone else even if he wasn't at his best. I thought he had to get work in Kildare aswell but it doesn't say that in the paper, he is living there and just needs to get a tranfer to a club there.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on January 17, 2012, 11:15:57 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on January 17, 2012, 11:07:16 PM
Johnston will have his work cut out if the transfer does eventually go through.. Kildare have been flying so far this year, it's only the o'byrne cup but they are going well and still have a few lads coming back from injury. It would be a massive loss to Cavan Gaels. He might have been poor last year in the Ulster Club but in county championship he was still above everyone else even if he wasn't at his best. I thought he had to get work in Kildare aswell but it doesn't say that in the paper, he is living there and just needs to get a tranfer to a club there.

He is in his hole living there. All part of the scam to get help with the transfer.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on January 17, 2012, 11:21:05 PM
Maybe so Myles, i was just going by what it said in the paper. He is still teaching in breffni college so if was actually living in Kildare at the minute it a long spin down for a 9 o'clock start..
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Western Blue on January 17, 2012, 11:22:18 PM
Anglo-Celt39/South Eastern Blue just to let you know I am back !! The Galway,Donegal and Longford defeats last summer took awfull out of me in that I nearly put my Kingspan jersey into my local clothes bank and purchased a Mayo (Elverys) jersey here in Castlebar. With the new season/clear out of old stock underway I found my Cavan Jersey in the attic last night so I have decided to travel to Cavan tomorrow evening to see the new kids playing U.U.J. Hopefully we will get a big win and that Donegal beat Derry. With all this talk about Seanie been dropped from the squad I hear no noise's coming from Lyng or Sheridan? Do they not want to play intercounty football. I have to say in the majority of inter county games I have attended in the last couple of years Johnstons performances have been very inconsistent.   
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Onlooker on January 17, 2012, 11:36:19 PM
Living in Munster, I have not seen Seanie Johnston play for a few years.  He was a good player, but if he played poorly last year, maybe it was due to all the travelling from Straffan to Cavan for work and training. :) :) :)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on January 17, 2012, 11:46:10 PM
Last year was Johnstons first full year with Cavan. Every other year prior to that he was playing with Dcu. Maybe not being involved with Dcu might have unsettled him abit. They train like professionals there and have brillant facilities playing high level football, Ryan Cup, O'Byrne and Sigerson and are all well looked after. He was there 8 years so maybe going from that to have job and then training might have been different but his attitude was very poor last year and he can have no excuses tbh. He deserved better than a 10 second call though if thats true.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on January 17, 2012, 11:56:38 PM
Good point Benny regarding Mc Geeneys input!
Anyway it's a sorry mess the whole affair IMO.
If Sean has to leave the Gaels which is looking increasingly likely I just hope he has thought the whole thing through.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on January 18, 2012, 02:45:38 AM
I don't think he's thinking too clearly booj...just thinking vengefully and wanting to stick it up to the manager who had the temerity to drop him. It's a shame he can't channel that passion towards his native county and show the manager he was wrong in the best way possible - by changing whatever it is that has caused him to be dropped in the first instance and fighting for his place like a true team player would.

Seanie, despite his protestations to the contrary, has to know the reason why he was dropped. If it was a reason that made it clear he is more sinned against than sinning here, and furthered his case for a transfer away, then I'm fairly sure he'd have put that reason in a public domain by now to enhance his claims. He hasn't so I'm surmising it's a reason that doesn't reflect well on him, i.e. some sort of troublemaking behind the scenes etc., who knows for sure.

Andrews hasn't done so either, but contrary to some claims here, he doesn't owe the 'paying public' an explanation either. He's accountable only to the county board who his contract is with and very notably, they are behind him as stated by the PRO, as indeed are the current crop of players we are building with for a more stable future after years of shifting deckchairs around the titanic and going nowhere because of it.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on January 18, 2012, 09:27:50 AM
As someone else said Lyng and Sheridan are not crying in the papers and  "living" in other counties to try and prove a point.

The whole thing stinks and Johnston is doing himself no good atall in this.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on January 18, 2012, 01:58:36 PM
The whole situation is a clusterfuck.

1.The Management were wrong to drop a veteran player with a 10 second phone call.
2.The Management were wrong to try and hide what they were at from the public by refusing to name a panel publicy.
3.Seanie in my opinion is wrong to overreact to  what we all know would be "short-term" omission from the county panel,by attempting to transfer away to Kildare.

Does anyone seriously think Cavan would go into the game against Donegal in May without him on the panel???
A Few bad defeats in the league and a pissed off Cavan GAA support makes the chances of that occuring very unlikely.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Cavanboy on January 18, 2012, 02:27:38 PM
So i've been reading this board for years, but have never posted.

Well here's my two cents on this scenario....

Some of the posters here who are taking about going back to the club and playing well and getting called back into the panel are a little naive.

Not If Sean Johnston scored 3 -15 a game all year long would Val be calling him back into the panel. That is the reality of the situation. So when Anglocelt says Sean has effectively ruled himself off the panel he's wrong. Sean was effectively ruled off the panel by Val & Terry for this year and FOR FUTURE YEARS. Its Just that with his appeal on his transfer getting quashed and reporters getting wind of the story (Croke park leaks like the titanic), Sean got asked a few questions and i guess he decided that nows the time to let everybody know that he's not on the panel, nor will be on the panel. (and thats how it works, a reporter rings you up when you're driving your car, or visiting your sick grandad, or down the supermarket, or out on the pitch training some young lads, and asks you question after question after question, then uses about a third of what you say to form a story.)

So after yesterdays interview guys can stop going on about "If and when" he gets called back in the spring. Not going to happen. Was NEVER going to happen. He could be playing like an all star in the morning but its going against what Val and Terry are trying to do. They're entitled to their opinions. they can tell him he's not going to play for cavan again, thats their pejorative. I guess Sean has done with that interview for Val and Terry what they didn't have the balls to do themselves.. Remember the Declan woods story about "how could anyone be dropped from the panel when there is no panel..." complete propaganda from the county management team. Lets say nothing and Johnston will make the first move. He fell for the trick in my opinion.

Now, he can either decide at 27 years of age, and after having surgery on his groin, ankle, and elbow in the last 4 years, and after finally shaking off those injuries, that he is no longer up to intercounty football, he can accept Val and terrys decision to end his intercounty career.
And thats what Val is doing, ending his Intercounty career. When Val goes, Terry will look for the reigns and probably take over, and he is as complicit in all of this, anyone thinking that there is any great difference in the management structure now that terry is a selector and not co-manager is mistaken, its still the same starsky and hutch one two of last year.

If McGeeney called any of you in the morning and asked would you join his panel, after Val telling you to F*** **F what would you do?

I say fair play to Johnston. Cavan told him playing Intercounty football wasn't an option anymore, and McGeeney said, well actually Sean, it is!!! (Mcgeeney being a man who transferred club himself realises life goes on afterwards. Will he be remembered forever as the man who captained Armagh to an All Ireland, or the man who left Mullaghbawn after winning an ulster club title.)

Seans problem is he probably doesn't help himself from a PR perspective. The interview in the independent makes him seem like he doesn't care about Cavan football. anyone who knows sean, and i'm sure there are people reading this board who do, know that this is simply not true. If Val and Terry hadn't dropped him then he'd be in there training with the rest of the cavan panel, training as hard as the rest of them. For god sake, he seems to wind some guys up on here that he gets vilified for not caring, for kissing his jersey after a point, for not singing the national anthem with gusto. He just annoys some guys no matter what. whatever, life is too short.

Val had a crap set up last year. u21s that joined the panel couldn't wait to get the hell away from it. the way some people go on they seem to make out like this was all Seans fault! Longford were up by 14 points in the championship at one stage. NOT CORK, or KERRY, or DUBLIN, but LONGFORD. Lets blame the corner forward surrounded by 10 defenders for that one too.
Lets look at the Johnston was a negative influence argument. I actually believe he probably was. I believe he was pissed off like hell! And i believe seannie is not the type of character who can hide his displeasure. If you were putting in the hours these guys were putting in, and had been putting in for the last number of years, and seeing standards dropping all the time from consecutive Management teams i'd say a fair few of you would feel a little cantankerous too.
Val knew he had messed up so he's gone around trying to fix the situation this year. He seems to have a good set up. Morrisson should be useful! The S&C boys are the same guys behind dublin hurlers. However Val had a problem, A big problem, and one of his own making. Unless your senior players buy into what you're doing you're wasting your time. Val made his impression last year on a group of lads... knew they had judged him and decided to get rid of them. Its classic 101 management. Like everything Val knows, he probably read it in a book!

(Side Note: He'd want to have a good read of Kevin Cassidys autobiography because jim McGuinness hasn't wrote a book!)   :D

What pisses me off is that some people write here about how lads don't work hard etc etc so thats why they got the boot, "I'd rather we had a group of lads committed to the jersey willing to work hard for each other" As if Dermot Sheridan, Martin Cahill, Eoin McGuigan, Alan Clarke, Micheal Lyng & Sean Johnston didn't work hard, all gone since March of last year!!!! Most of you probably know one if not two of these guys.

Are they ALL Primadonnas?


Maybe Cavan will do something this year. Wouldn't it be great if they did. At the end of the day we're all Cavan people here on this board.

Maybe Val has called it correctly, maybe he has done the right thing. Time will tell.

But people jumping to conclusions, saying Johnston says he only got a 10 second phone call, he hasn't said the reason why he was dropped, it mustn't reflect well on him....

Let me tell you this, the reason these guys were dropped doesn't reflect well on management. Thats why you have the "we're going with something new" line being pushed, because its easier than explaining the mistakes they made last year.
Even is Johnston didn't play that well last year, No one played better!
Lyng WAS told he was too old by management. Michael Brennan who is 33 years of age is on the panel. Micheal Lyng is still 26.

If you trained hard for cavan when selected onto the panel. If you made sacrifices in your personal/professional and academic lives to play for Cavan. And if you get dumped with a 10 second phone call after the best part of a decade, then i think you're entitled to consider your options without being judged by the wider public.

But hey... thats just me. What would i know!  ;)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Breffni_Yank on January 18, 2012, 02:38:36 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on January 18, 2012, 01:58:36 PM
The whole situation is a clusterfuck.

1.The Management were wrong to drop a veteran player with a 10 second phone call.
2.The Management were wrong to try and hide what they were at from the public by refusing to name a panel publicy.
3.Seanie in my opinion is wrong to overreact to  what we all know would be "short-term" omission from the county panel,by attempting to transfer away to Kildare.

Does anyone seriously think Cavan would go into the game against Donegal in May without him on the panel???
A Few bad defeats in the league and a pissed off Cavan GAA support makes the chances of that occuring very unlikely.

This is gas. Just got told in work that the reason the conversation only lasted about ten seconds was that Sean hung up on  Val :o hahahahaah

And Cavan boy, if you are not one of the dropped players I will eat my hat.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Cavanboy on January 18, 2012, 02:42:11 PM
QuoteAnd Cavan boy, if you are not one of the dropped players I will eat my hat.

Eat it.  ;D


Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on January 18, 2012, 02:42:48 PM
Quote from: Breffni_Yank on January 18, 2012, 02:38:36 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on January 18, 2012, 01:58:36 PM
The whole situation is a clusterfuck.

1.The Management were wrong to drop a veteran player with a 10 second phone call.
2.The Management were wrong to try and hide what they were at from the public by refusing to name a panel publicy.
3.Seanie in my opinion is wrong to overreact to  what we all know would be "short-term" omission from the county panel,by attempting to transfer away to Kildare.

Does anyone seriously think Cavan would go into the game against Donegal in May without him on the panel???
A Few bad defeats in the league and a pissed off Cavan GAA support makes the chances of that occuring very unlikely.

This is gas. Just got told in work that the reason the conversation only lasted about ten seconds was that Sean hung up on  Val :o hahahahaah

And Cavan boy, if you are not one of the dropped players I will eat my hat.

Didn't know that BY. Cheers
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Breffni_Yank on January 18, 2012, 02:44:43 PM
Quote from: Cavanboy on January 18, 2012, 02:42:11 PM
QuoteAnd Cavan boy, if you are not one of the dropped players I will eat my hat.

Eat it.  ;D

You are one of those lads or Richie J with a different name!

No bother BM, got told from a pretty reliable source so I would fully expect it to be true.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Cavanboy on January 18, 2012, 02:52:06 PM
QuoteYou are one of those lads or Richie J with a different name!

Nope. Wrong again Breffni Yank. I have no idea who Richie J is. But i have my contacts.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on January 18, 2012, 02:57:01 PM
Cavanboy - Welcome.

I didn't copy all your post but this bit I have an issue with

"...If Sean Johnston scored 3 -15 a game all year long would Val be calling him back into the panel"

You are assuming he was dropped because he wasn't scoring enough, which is hardly the truth. Maybe it is other qualities/improvements Seanie needs to show before he is asked back in???
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on January 18, 2012, 02:58:38 PM
Quote from: Cavanboy on January 18, 2012, 02:27:38 PM
So i've been reading this board for years, but have never posted.

Well here's my two cents on this scenario....

Some of the posters here who are taking about going back to the club and playing well and getting called back into the panel are a little naive.

Not If Sean Johnston scored 3 -15 a game all year long would Val be calling him back into the panel. That is the reality of the situation. So when Anglocelt says Sean has effectively ruled himself off the panel he's wrong. Sean was effectively ruled off the panel by Val & Terry for this year and FOR FUTURE YEARS. Its Just that with his appeal on his transfer getting quashed and reporters getting wind of the story (Croke park leaks like the titanic), Sean got asked a few questions and i guess he decided that nows the time to let everybody know that he's not on the panel, nor will be on the panel. (and thats how it works, a reporter rings you up when you're driving your car, or visiting your sick grandad, or down the supermarket, or out on the pitch training some young lads, and asks you question after question after question, then uses about a third of what you say to form a story.)

So after yesterdays interview guys can stop going on about "If and when" he gets called back in the spring. Not going to happen. Was NEVER going to happen. He could be playing like an all star in the morning but its going against what Val and Terry are trying to do. They're entitled to their opinions. they can tell him he's not going to play for cavan again, thats their pejorative. I guess Sean has done with that interview for Val and Terry what they didn't have the balls to do themselves.. Remember the Declan woods story about "how could anyone be dropped from the panel when there is no panel..." complete propaganda from the county management team. Lets say nothing and Johnston will make the first move. He fell for the trick in my opinion.

Now, he can either decide at 27 years of age, and after having surgery on his groin, ankle, and elbow in the last 4 years, and after finally shaking off those injuries, that he is no longer up to intercounty football, he can accept Val and terrys decision to end his intercounty career.
And thats what Val is doing, ending his Intercounty career. When Val goes, Terry will look for the reigns and probably take over, and he is as complicit in all of this, anyone thinking that there is any great difference in the management structure now that terry is a selector and not co-manager is mistaken, its still the same starsky and hutch one two of last year.

If McGeeney called any of you in the morning and asked would you join his panel, after Val telling you to F*** **F what would you do?

I say fair play to Johnston. Cavan told him playing Intercounty football wasn't an option anymore, and McGeeney said, well actually Sean, it is!!! (Mcgeeney being a man who transferred club himself realises life goes on afterwards. Will he be remembered forever as the man who captained Armagh to an All Ireland, or the man who left Mullaghbawn after winning an ulster club title.)

Seans problem is he probably doesn't help himself from a PR perspective. The interview in the independent makes him seem like he doesn't care about Cavan football. anyone who knows sean, and i'm sure there are people reading this board who do, know that this is simply not true. If Val and Terry hadn't dropped him then he'd be in there training with the rest of the cavan panel, training as hard as the rest of them. For god sake, he seems to wind some guys up on here that he gets vilified for not caring, for kissing his jersey after a point, for not singing the national anthem with gusto. He just annoys some guys no matter what. whatever, life is too short.

Val had a crap set up last year. u21s that joined the panel couldn't wait to get the hell away from it. the way some people go on they seem to make out like this was all Seans fault! Longford were up by 14 points in the championship at one stage. NOT CORK, or KERRY, or DUBLIN, but LONGFORD. Lets blame the corner forward surrounded by 10 defenders for that one too.
Lets look at the Johnston was a negative influence argument. I actually believe he probably was. I believe he was pissed off like hell! And i believe seannie is not the type of character who can hide his displeasure. If you were putting in the hours these guys were putting in, and had been putting in for the last number of years, and seeing standards dropping all the time from consecutive Management teams i'd say a fair few of you would feel a little cantankerous too.
Val knew he had messed up so he's gone around trying to fix the situation this year. He seems to have a good set up. Morrisson should be useful! The S&C boys are the same guys behind dublin hurlers. However Val had a problem, A big problem, and one of his own making. Unless your senior players buy into what you're doing you're wasting your time. Val made his impression last year on a group of lads... knew they had judged him and decided to get rid of them. Its classic 101 management. Like everything Val knows, he probably read it in a book!

(Side Note: He'd want to have a good read of Kevin Cassidys autobiography because jim McGuinness hasn't wrote a book!)   :D

What pisses me off is that some people write here about how lads don't work hard etc etc so thats why they got the boot, "I'd rather we had a group of lads committed to the jersey willing to work hard for each other" As if Dermot Sheridan, Martin Cahill, Eoin McGuigan, Alan Clarke, Micheal Lyng & Sean Johnston didn't work hard, all gone since March of last year!!!! Most of you probably know one if not two of these guys.

Are they ALL Primadonnas?


Maybe Cavan will do something this year. Wouldn't it be great if they did. At the end of the day we're all Cavan people here on this board.

Maybe Val has called it correctly, maybe he has done the right thing. Time will tell.

But people jumping to conclusions, saying Johnston says he only got a 10 second phone call, he hasn't said the reason why he was dropped, it mustn't reflect well on him....

Let me tell you this, the reason these guys were dropped doesn't reflect well on management. Thats why you have the "we're going with something new" line being pushed, because its easier than explaining the mistakes they made last year.
Even is Johnston didn't play that well last year, No one played better!
Lyng WAS told he was too old by management. Michael Brennan who is 33 years of age is on the panel. Micheal Lyng is still 26.

If you trained hard for cavan when selected onto the panel. If you made sacrifices in your personal/professional and academic lives to play for Cavan. And if you get dumped with a 10 second phone call after the best part of a decade, then i think you're entitled to consider your options without being judged by the wider public.

But hey... thats just me. What would i know!  ;)

Welcome to the board CB
just a few points with reference to the bolded parts

1.Andrews/Hyland will be lucky to see out this season,so any of their opinions about "future selections" will no doubt be irrelevant.

2. If Cavan were to lose 3/4 and be in serious danger of relegation,with the Cavan GAA support looking for blood,and Jelly/Lyng destroying all around them in the SFL(which will no doubt happen!),the chances of them not being asked back is slim.
If they weren't recalled and Cavan got relegated,
Andrews/Hyland would be gone before the championship game with Donegal in my opinion.

3.If McGeeney called and asked me to come and play with Kildare, after i was dropped from the Cavan Panel id thank him for the offer and politely decline.
I would play so well with my club,that i couldn't be overlooked for a recall.
An All Ireland with another county would be worthless to me.

4. Nobody blames Seanie for all this,
This present Management team and their carry on is not popular on this board,indeed a fair few of us(myself included) wanted them gone after the Donegal and Longford debacles.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Cavanboy on January 18, 2012, 03:54:06 PM
BallyhaiseMan.. Even if Cavan got relegated Val would not be fired. He has started a "project" and will be given a certain amount of time to see how it develops. When that is done Terry will step in.

So
Quote3.If McGeeney called and asked me to come and play with Kildare, after i was dropped from the Cavan Panel id thank him for the offer and politely decline.
I would play so well with my club,that i couldn't be overlooked for a recall.
An All Ireland with another county would be worthless to me.

The bit in bold is irrelevant. No matter how well you/Sean Johnston play the events of the past 4 months have shown that neither party can fully respect each other any more. Without that respect there is nothing. Val wouldn't be calling Sean back, and i don't think Johnston would go back. Not now anyway. I can accept your decision to decline McGeeneys offer. But that does not mean Seanie should be admonished for wanting to play county football. After suffering all the injuries, and undergoing all the operations, he must be thinking that he is entering the last chance saloon. He either realises his potential in the next year or two or when he looks back on his footballing days he will be left with regrets. Many a player has transferred county before. All for different reasons. But ALL wanted to play County football. Some didn't want to play for their native county while Some weren't given the chance to play for their native county.
My point is this. Its not a crime to want to test yourself at county level. Johnston wants to test himself. Should he sit out a year because Val and Terry decided not to ask him back? what if things went well for Cavan. would they ask him back then?

Too much of his career has been spent being injured, or playing through injury. Why should he now waste his injury free years. Of course Johnston would rather be playing for cavan. But that is not an option anymore.

QuoteAnd so what if he is one of the dropped players? Isnt he entitled to his views as much as me or you?
Agreed. But one more time for guys up the back. Nope.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Ollie on January 18, 2012, 04:17:01 PM
Totally agree with Cavanboy. Very well explained!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on January 18, 2012, 04:21:54 PM
He is hardly Johnston?..
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Mr. Pain on January 18, 2012, 05:27:40 PM
So hot here, so hot in herre!

Mr. Pain has been reading. Never before has he seen such tripe.

Richie J can and will be ignored as it is obvious he has an agenda and resorts to name calling to his target (Mr Ego) Andrews.

CavanBoy is obviously a player who was dropped or a close relative of one with a bee in his bonnet.

Any management or Co. Board have no obligation to make a statement about issues like these. If they did so for every player who was dropped from every county team how would it work?

Pride in your own club and county should take precedent over your selection (or not) to play.

Lastly, lots of players are dropped from county teams. Get over it.


Rant over!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on January 18, 2012, 05:32:36 PM
We missed you Mr Pain.

Ripped from another thread.

Derry   2   2   0   0   4   32   26   1.230769231
Cavan   2   1   0   1   2   29   27   1.074074074
UUJ   2   1   0   1   2   25   28   0.892857143
Donegal   2   0   0   2   0   23   28   0.821428571

So if we beat UUJ and Donegal beat Derry, are we in the semi final?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dougal on January 18, 2012, 06:09:25 PM
Quote from: Denn Forever on January 18, 2012, 05:32:36 PM
We missed you Mr Pain.

Ripped from another thread.

Derry   2   2   0   0   4   32   26   1.230769231
Cavan   2   1   0   1   2   29   27   1.074074074
UUJ   2   1   0   1   2   25   28   0.892857143
Donegal   2   0   0   2   0   23   28   0.821428571

So if we beat UUJ and Donegal beat Derry, are we in the semi final?

we would go out on head to head with derry,unless we win by 7 or 8 and fermanagh lose by the same.i think
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on January 18, 2012, 06:48:40 PM
Quote from: Richiej on January 18, 2012, 06:31:51 PM
Team tonite..... Reilly ,o dowd ,mc cormack, slowey, Meehan, o Reilly, Jordan, givney, mckiernan, mc keever. R Cullivan Murray , mcclarey, keating, Fitzpatrick.



very positive to see three Gaels lads starting, bodes well for the future.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Ollie on January 18, 2012, 09:06:27 PM
 Cavan 0.16 - UUJ 3.05.. full-time score.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: trim blue on January 18, 2012, 09:11:34 PM
Good to keep winning but we are leaking some amount of goals
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BigMac on January 19, 2012, 12:00:01 AM
Which Jordan was wing back does anyone know? Joey and Stephen are both on the panel. I presume it was Joey, as Stephen was wing forward for the previous two games. If Joey was going to get a run it would have been in the half back line, although most people would agree Stephen's best position is at wing back. Good to get another win, but it would be nice to stop conceding goals and maybe get one or two more ourselves.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on January 19, 2012, 01:17:31 AM
Good post Cavanboy. Alot of valid points. However I will say that if Jelly leaves his club to enable himself to play with another county then I believe he is wrong. Your club is your club.
But the more you look at what Val has done, there is no consistency in his decision to drop the players he has. The buck stops with the manager and it should always be that way. I'm not having a dig at any player but it's a valid point to mention that tonight Cavan had 2 or 3 lads playing who in the past would not play for Cavan.
You can say I'm only trying to stir things but if people are questioning the influence on a panel (be it negative or positive) from somebody like Jelly then surely they should also be questioning the influence of players who have walked away from panels in the past.
I'd just love to know Vals reasoning behind all this.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Breffni_Yank on January 19, 2012, 01:32:18 AM
http://www.newstalk.ie/programmes/all/offtheball/listen-back/

Worth a listen. About 25 mins into Part 1
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on January 19, 2012, 02:25:22 PM
Martin Dunne seemed to have done well when he came on last night. I didn't know he was even on the panel. He has the potential to be as good as Johnston when he was at his best. I always thought he lacked a bit on the physical side for county senior level, i saw him against glenswilly and he was pushed about the place, maybe the marking wasn't as tight last night. Heard Cavan Gaels refused Johnstons move, so he will have to transfer to a club in Kildare now.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on January 19, 2012, 03:13:42 PM
Its all about beating Doneal in the 1st round.  An interesting analysis from another thread.  But only based on McKenna cup but its a starting point.

http://sc1sports.com/have-donegal-been-worked-out/
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on January 19, 2012, 04:09:26 PM
Thanks for that link Breffni Yank. It would seem Parkinson is of the opinion that it's Seanie's behaviour that has cost him his place, although he then goes on to admit he hasn't really heard anything concrete from within the county so make of it what you will.

You could discuss this around the houses for days on end but the bottom line for me personally is that a player of Johnson's calibre has not been dismissed for simply no good reason. Despite having speculated a bit on it myself - putting two and two together and making an educated guess as to what that reason might be - it's probably best until we hear for sure what it is before making more judgements.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Breffni_Yank on January 19, 2012, 09:52:25 PM
Richie J, I have seen your posts on this thread, one on the main page and on the Hoganstand and I think your conspiracy against Andrews has to stop. It is time we all respect his decision to select the panel that he sees fit and let him go with that. Can we really get any worse? Can we ever put up a more lifeless performance than we did against Longford last year?

He has decided to take a fresh approach and whether he is right or wrong we will soon find out. He deserves an opportunity to make his mark on the team. He was here before and get us to an Ulster final. He deservces a shot. If he fails well then at least he tried something different.

We all want to know why he dropped Sean but he doesnt have to tell us just like he doesnt have to tell us about the tactics he wants to play. Football is a game of opinions. We are entitled to ours and he is entitled to his. The difference is he wears the manager bib and even though many of us wont agree with everything he does we respect his right to make that call.

From following our three games so far this year I see Murray, Meehan, Smith, McClarey and Dunne have all played for Cavan. If they are willing to accept the manager's decision to cut Johnston and give their best for Cavan then I think we should respect them and give them their chance.

Let's stop all the crap and give our new panel time to find its feet.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on January 20, 2012, 11:55:09 AM
Richie I agree with you in fairness that it's a pity there are not a few more experienced lads in the panel to help some of the new blood along the way. The problem is, however, that a fair few of the lads in question were in the panel last year when some of the new blood was brought in. Now if you believe some of what you might hear, the more established lads on the panel didn't do a whole pile to bring the new lads along.

without knowing the in's and out's of it I think that probably left Andrews with a choice of sticking with the core of the established panel or going for a clean out. For better or worse he has chosen the latter, will be judged on it and should be given a chance to get on with things. It's not as if he's cleaned out lads that had won a pile of stuff at County level. Somebody spoke about the Longford performance last year, well the one against Cork the previous year was the most awful that I can remember so this has been coming a while.

Both Keogan and Carr spoke about there being attitude problems in the panel when they were involved. In fairness to Val at least he has taken the bull by the horns and tried to do something about it.

For this year if we hold our own in Division 3, win one championship game (perhaps in the qualifiers), have 20 lads lining out that put the effort in and continue  the great progress that has been made at underage level in the last year or two i'll accept that as the a tentative step towards recovery. There will be setbacks, Roscommon went for the clean slate approach a few years ago and it was far from plain sailing but they seem to be in a better place as regards performance and panel attitude. Hopefully we can move in a similar direction.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanlad on January 20, 2012, 01:18:08 PM
we need to move on, val will do the talking on the pitch.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on January 21, 2012, 10:54:33 AM
Good post Breffni Yank. It's time to move on. Everybody was disappointed with how things went last year. This year we have a relatively new and young team. They deserve our support and we should be positive that for the first time in a while we are bringing through players who are used to winni ng in Ulster.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on January 21, 2012, 02:51:46 PM
Quote from: boojangles on January 21, 2012, 10:54:33 AM
Good post Breffni Yank. It's time to move on. Everybody was disappointed with how things went last year. This year we have a relatively new and young team. They deserve our support and we should be positive that for the first time in a while we are bringing through players who are used to winni ng in Ulster.

That richiej fool would want to cop on anyway he has been at it non stop for a quarter off a year now.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on January 21, 2012, 03:21:46 PM
I'll agree with tommy, you are a complete and utter fool.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Breffni_Yank on January 21, 2012, 03:31:40 PM
Quote from: Westside on January 21, 2012, 03:21:46 PM
I'll agree with tommy, you are a complete and utter fool.

Here, here. Your Caps Lock button stuck Richie?

Time to rally behind the team and let them find their feet. Let's cut out all the crap and see how the league goes.

Many clubs back training now?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on January 21, 2012, 04:30:01 PM
Quote from: Richiej on January 21, 2012, 03:08:15 PM
Quote from: tommysmith on January 21, 2012, 02:51:46 PM
Quote from: boojangles on January 21, 2012, 10:54:33 AM
Good post Breffni Yank. It's time to move on. Everybody was disappointed with how things went last year. This year we have a relatively new and young team. They deserve our support and we should be positive that for the first time in a while we are bringing through players who are used to winni ng in Ulster.

That richiej fool would want to cop on anyway he has been at it non stop for a quarter off a year now.

ARGUE, DISAGREE, KNOCK, ANY OF MY POSTS ........ITS WATER OF A DUCKS BACK BUT PERSONAL ATTACKS CALLING ME A FOOL I WONT TOLERATE SO IL REPORT YOU TO THE MODERATOR FOR THAT REASON

I am a moderator here so good luck with that  :D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BigMac on January 21, 2012, 04:35:18 PM
McGeeney has come out and pretty much said he wants Jelly. From the hoganstand main page.....
Kildare manager Kieran McGeeney has revealed that he would welcome Cavan outcast Seanie Johnston into the Lilywhites' fold.

Johnston has publicly stated that he is willing to make the move to Kildare after being told by the Kildare management team that he was no longer wanted in the squad.

A player of Johnston's calibre would be hugely beneficial to Kildare as they continue their quest for an All-Ireland title and McGeeney has opened the door for the Cavan Gaels clubman to come on board.

"If he wants to play for Kildare, the same as anybody else wants to play for Kildare, I've an open door policy," said McGeeney on Kildare local radio station KFM.

"He can come here, turn up, play, train and I've never stopped anybody who's wanted to play for Kildare. He has indicated that he wants to and we'll take him in with open arms but he's going to have his work cut out. There are a lot of fellas there who want their place too and if Seanie steps in here he's going to have to put up like everybody else."
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on January 21, 2012, 04:37:46 PM
QuoteInsert Quote
McGeeney has come out and pretty much said he wants Jelly[/quote

Sure it is him behind the hole thing and put the notion in Johnstons head in the first place.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on January 21, 2012, 04:41:41 PM
Richiej posted a few good things on here but then looking at the stuff he posted on hoganstand and then onto this woud make out that he has a personal vandetta against Andrews. Not a huge fan of andrews myself but he had balls to drop johnston.. richiej even got his say in the Celt ffs.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on January 21, 2012, 06:02:57 PM
Quote from: Richiej on January 21, 2012, 05:54:09 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on January 21, 2012, 04:41:41 PM
Richiej posted a few good things on here but then looking at the stuff he posted on hoganstand and then onto this woud make out that he has a personal vandetta against Andrews. Not a huge fan of andrews myself but he had balls to drop johnston.. richiej even got his say in the Celt ffs.

Number 1 i dont have to justify my post to anybody , there just my opinion

Number 2 ive no personal vendetta against Val Andrews but i have judged him on his results . 2011 Championship team selection, tactics, and management explaination wernt what was expected from a Senior Inter County Manager.

Number 3 Like Carr ,Andrews had no intercounty track record when we appointed him for the 2nd time so it seems we never learned anything from Carrs  poor 2 year term.

Number 4 he is entitled to pick who he likes without explaination but if it goes tits up id expect him to walk away especially as it is his 2nd year but from his panel secection it seems like his 1st year.

Number 5 there seems to be a nice crop of young lads coming through. Its a pity theres not more experience in the panel to help these lads along in training. Its a long time since talent like this came through in such numbers. It would be a shame if it gets wasted.

Number 6 i genuinely wish Andrews the very best of luck. This is his 2nd year and he cant keep moving the goalposts every year. There comes a time when improvement has to be seen by supporters. Last year was poor. There has to be improvement this year. We cant be starting team building EVERY year!

What players would you sugest?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on January 21, 2012, 06:04:38 PM
Just checked my messages got a nice message

QuoteKEEP YOR PERSONAL NAME CALLING ATTACKS TO YOUR f**king SELF. IF YOU DONT LIKE THE POSTS DONT READ THEM .

YOU DONT OWN THE BOARD
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on January 21, 2012, 06:27:43 PM
Quote from: Richiej on January 21, 2012, 06:17:52 PM
Quote from: tommysmith on January 21, 2012, 06:04:38 PM
Just checked my messages got a nice message

QuoteKEEP YOR PERSONAL NAME CALLING ATTACKS TO YOUR f**king SELF. IF YOU DONT LIKE THE POSTS DONT READ THEM .

YOU DONT OWN THE BOARD
Are you looking for sympathy from other posters or what???? Why don't you talk football if your able!!

:D :D :D :D :D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on January 21, 2012, 06:41:12 PM
Number 3 Like Carr ,Andrews had no intercounty track record when we appointed him for the 2nd time so it seems we never learned anything from Carrs  poor 2 year term


No doubt about it Richie you're the gift that keeps on giving. What exactly is your definition of an intercounty track record? Regarding Carr and I'm open to correction wasn't he in charge of the Dubs the year they last an AISF replay to a late Maurice Fitz goal? I could nearly swear your dream ticket for the management position was stated as one Peter Canavan, so now I'm really intrigued as to what your definition is of an inter county track record??

There seems to be only  one area of your arguments that remains consistent and that is a sad, pathetic agenda against Val Andrews for reasons best known to yourself.

Having seen your posts here and your contributions over a number of years on another forum (which I do not post to myself) it is hard to disagree with the assessment of a few posters here that you are, indeed, a fool. To help you out, I'm reporting myself to the moderator when I've completed this post to save you the bother.


Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanlad on January 21, 2012, 06:45:24 PM
Quote from: Richiej on January 21, 2012, 05:54:09 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on January 21, 2012, 04:41:41 PM
Richiej posted a few good things on here but then looking at the stuff he posted on hoganstand and then onto this woud make out that he has a personal vandetta against Andrews. Not a huge fan of andrews myself but he had balls to drop johnston.. richiej even got his say in the Celt ffs.

Number 1 i don't have to justify my post to anybody , there just my opinion

Number 2 I've no personal vendetta against Val Andrews but i have judged him on his results . 2011 Championship team selection, tactics, and management explaination wernt what was expected from a Senior Inter County Manager.

Number 3 Like Carr ,Andrews had no intercounty track record when we appointed him for the 2nd time so it seems we never learned anything from Carrs  poor 2 year term.

Number 4 he is entitled to pick who he likes without explaination but if it goes tits up id expect him to walk away especially as it is his 2nd year but from his panel secection it seems like his 1st year.

Number 5 there seems to be a nice crop of young lads coming through. Its a pity theres not more experience in the panel to help these lads along in training. Its a long time since talent like this came through in such numbers. It would be a shame if it gets wasted.

Number 6 i genuinely wish Andrews the very best of luck. This is his 2nd year and he cant keep moving the goalposts every year. There comes a time when improvement has to be seen by supporters. Last year was poor. There has to be improvement this year. We cant be starting team building EVERY year!

Point 1: The league has not even start yet, so will you give the team more time.

Point 2: There is an nice crop of young player's, first time you got anything right. These under 21 player, they DON'T need experience in the panel, they have grown up with each other since 15 or 16 with the Development squads, the 3 "dropped" players would not help them nor given them experience, 1 of these "dropped player's" would set them back, the under 21 were able to close out winners in Fermangh and in Dublin, last year's under 21 were also unlucky not to win an ulster minor medal too.

Point 3: There has been an improvement this year already in the McKenna Cup, i known it not the league or championship, but there was good "team play" from new player's and from last year's under 21. I would be scared about 6 goals in 3 games, FR i ever liked, what other goalkeeper are there out there, the under 21  from two years ago from Laragh Utd, i think it was Martin Smith. Was it the Sercock goalkeeper as the sub for the McKenna games.

Point 4:Richiej i known your allowed to post noting wrong with that, and you shouldn't be personal abused on  here, but your going around in coroners, the hoganstand, the celt. Can you not just think before posting very harsh comments. Everyone in Cavan and i hope you want Cavan to do well, there are 60 player's plus with Ulster medals in Cavan from last year, we are building, look at tipp. Cavan will get better and i hope win an Ulster Senior title before 2014.

There are no easy draws in Ulster's, which is the hardest province in Ireland.

i have no hard feeling to you Richiej, but just move ahead and wait until we have player Wexford and Longford.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on January 21, 2012, 07:20:37 PM
Abusive personal messages? Like Johnston, RichieJ is showing his true colours now.

Richie is right about the experience. We should keep lads there who are experienced at taking hammerings and making a mess of games at intercounty level. Maybe they will be able to taint these U21s and Minors who have learned how to get on top of teams and close out games.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: gaaboard on January 21, 2012, 07:27:06 PM
Could posters call a halt to the personal attacks and stick to debating the issues respectfully.

Thanks,
Admin.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Breffni_Yank on January 21, 2012, 07:29:54 PM
Quote from: Richiej on January 21, 2012, 07:14:45 PM
Cavanlad I was reading your post and to be honest when I came to the line where you stated "u21 don't need experience "I stopped reading.  What's the point in trying to educate posters like you when that's the kinda  stuff your going to come out with. We have always been a little ahead of ourselves in Cavan. And no offence but your proving this with statements like that.
Richie,

Just what experience to these fella's have in the Cavan jersey? This may seem a lilttle harsh but their time with Cavan has seen Constant failure and constant choking. Played in embarrasing defeats to Cork and Longford. Maybe Val has decided he doesn't want their mental baggage around the younger players. It's a guess but that's my take on it. If they want to work hard and force their way back in well then fair play to them. Nobody here would begrudge them that.

I for one would rather let all these players coming through make their own mistakes and learn from them. They have already shown us they can do this. As someone said, they nearly won their minor title a couple of years ago and it didn't happen. They stuck together and came back for another go. Add in a whole fresh batch of minors following through and you would hope in two or three years time we would have a pretty decent outfit.

And please note not everyone with 'experience' as you say has been cut.  Padraig Reilly, McCuthcheon and Mark McKeever are still in there.

Is James Reilly on the panel does anyone know? Was told he was and he wasn't. He would be a big help to a young team.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Breffni_Yank on January 21, 2012, 07:56:32 PM
Quote from: Richiej on January 21, 2012, 07:45:51 PM
And breffni yank don't forget Cullivan in your experienced players that are still there. You know the came Cullivan who refused to play 2 years ago because he want being selected by Carr. If Andrews knew what he was at he would have substituted Johnston last year in either the Donegal game or Longford game if attitude or form was poor. HE DIDNT.. Drops him instead in October which proves he making it up as he goes along. Because there has been no intercounty contact in between last championship game and October. Andrews is a bluffer who reads it all out of a book. But there no telling that to you boys. I ain't going to get any satisfaction telling you " I told you so" because my heart is in Cavan football . Haven't missed a championship game in over 20 years even though I live across the water.

Nobody is doubting your passion Richie but you have to stop looking at everything and no matter what twisting it to say Val is doing something wrong. A part of me thinks we are in for a long season but there is no point constantly slating a manager when we haven't even played a league game yet. It is very easy to manipulate everything to match your viewpoint.

Of the team that has played so far I would have serious concerns about our team in a few positions. In goals we have a problem if James is gone. Our Full-Back line does not inspire a whole pile of confidence either. Believe me I am concerned but I am willing to give the management and the players a chance to prove me wrong.

In midfield we have two players that will be the envy of most counties in the future. Up front we have talent. McDermott, Keating etc are well able to kick scores and I think them two could make a real impact this year. Only time will tell.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on January 21, 2012, 08:06:27 PM
I manage a sports team (not gaa). I had a player for 2 years who was a match winner. Had more ability than any other player on the team. However, he had a bad attitude. Trained when he wanted and went missing when the big match came. I tried everything I could to keep him interested to try and get the him to care about the team. This year after one more episode I told him his services were no longer required. My other players backed me (even though many of them are his friends), the team are now performing better. I have closed no doors but this guy will need to apologise to his team mates and then go training and show that his attitude has changed. I have a feeling the Johnston situation is something similar. Its the managers call and I support him.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanlad on January 21, 2012, 08:50:00 PM
Quote from: Richiej on January 21, 2012, 07:14:45 PM
Cavanlad I was reading your post and to be honest when I came to the line where you stated "u21 don't need experience "I stopped reading.  What's the point in trying to educate posters like you when that's the kinda  stuff your going to come out with. We have always been a little ahead of ourselves in Cavan. And no offence but your proving this with statements like that.

sorry if my post was unclear to JUST YOU, i was tring to say that these under 21 players have trained together since 15 or 16 years old, my point is the same as Breffni_Yank.

your have a serious problem, no need for the personal attack at the end, a simply i don't understnad your post would off been ok. i didn't insult you.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Breffni_Yank on January 21, 2012, 08:52:52 PM
To stop all the fighting, are we all presuming that the McKenna Cup squad is our panel for the year then or are there any injured players to come back in?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Breffni_Yank on January 21, 2012, 11:35:40 PM
All I could think of was James McEnroe. Maybe Thomas Corr but have no idea if he is in there or what is his story.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Breffni_Yank on January 21, 2012, 11:59:50 PM
Quote from: Richiej on January 21, 2012, 11:55:03 PM
Quote from: Breffni_Yank on January 21, 2012, 11:35:40 PM
All I could think of was James McEnroe. Maybe Thomas Corr but have no idea if he is in there or what is his story.
.     Corr was there last year I think , I know he hadn't the best of years but if he had any kind of potential wouldn't you think Andrews would have stuck with him if he was worth it? Murray comes to mind last year when andrews tried him in the half back line then took him off after 56 mins against Donegal . Then played him in the half forward line against Longford and took him off after 18 mins. Does that sound like a Manager who knows what he is at??? It's fine giving Andrews a chance but why can't he explain last years failings????

Your doing it again Richie. New year, new season. Lets give it a chance.

Yeah Corr deserves another chance. Of last years u21s the only ones that I can think of are O'Meara, Leddy and Tighe. First two are playing college football at the minute and no idea about Tighe. Myles?

After that it is slim pickings. Alan Clarke left last year so dont see him near it. Where has Martin Reilly gone too? And did Sean Brady get a chance after his good season with Castlerahan?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Western Blue on January 22, 2012, 04:32:46 PM
When are Cavan's U21's due to play Longford in the Hastings Cup...is that a Final. I see Donegal played Monaghan on Sat in a challenge match...did our Senior side play over the weekend. Any word on O. Minagh  & D.Barkey injuries ..both very early in there respective games.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on January 22, 2012, 07:19:50 PM
It was on yesterday but didn't hear the score.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: PhilsJemmysField on January 23, 2012, 04:42:34 PM
Cavan will play Longford in the  Hastings Cup final on Saturday next in Abbeylara at 2 30 p.m.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on January 23, 2012, 10:51:49 PM
Johnston is apparently moving to St. Kevin's in Kildare..
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on January 23, 2012, 11:45:57 PM
He won't get things too easy in Kildare.. Not like in Cavan where nobody would ever dare dropping him, better quality players in the Kildare forward line. They all work hard if they lose the ball something Johnston doesn't do. Saying all that it would be nice if Johnston destroyed the Dubs in Croke Park if they meet at some stage in Leinster of the All Ireland series. He has quality, but would need to improve his attitude which i think he would under McGeeney..
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on January 23, 2012, 11:52:33 PM
Rodney, if I saw seanie Johnston playing for kildare against the dubs then I'd be cheering for the dubs. I'd hate to see any success come from such a traitorous act. I heard mutterings that a resolution might have been on the cards and I was hoping that was the case but if this story is true then I hope it gives our lads a bit more motivation to do well and maybe win an ulster in the next few years. What if the gaels got the ulster club too?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on January 24, 2012, 12:02:33 AM
I'd say the Cavan lads already knew this Myles, i heard he had done gym work with Kildare in November a few weeks after being dropped, just a matter of the transfer going through. Huge loss to Cavan Gaels.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on January 24, 2012, 08:45:25 AM
Richie - He has made a 2nd decision now. He has decided him playing for a random county like Kildare is more important than him playing for his own club, the club that he was born into.

Answer me this - why did he not transfer to a club in Longford, Leitrim or Fermanagh. He could have lived there and played with that county and had a comfortable comute to work every day. Why do you think that is Richie? Teemore for example is only 20 minutes from Cavan.

That tells me all I need to know about Seanie Johnston. No place for people with such self importance and arrogance in the Cavan panel. Andrews has made the right decision and I'm certain of that now. Cavan supporters and Cavan Gaels supporters should now move on and support their club and county
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on January 24, 2012, 09:32:27 AM
Exactly Myles alot of counties closer to Cavan than Kildare.

It could end up like the Gallacher stint in Cavan and he could be back with the Gaels by July depending on how Kildare get on in Championship.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on January 24, 2012, 09:33:33 AM
Quote from: Richiej on January 24, 2012, 01:55:46 AM
Andrews told Johnston he would never play for Cavan under him again. FACT.

Did he tell him this in the 10 second phone call ?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on January 24, 2012, 09:36:15 AM
Can we put this to bed and move on and get ready for the leagues?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on January 24, 2012, 11:03:45 AM
Quote from: Richiej on January 24, 2012, 09:49:33 AM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on January 24, 2012, 08:45:25 AM
Richie - He has made a 2ND decision now. He has decided him playing for a random county like Kildare is more important than him playing for his own club, the club that he was born into.

Answer me this - why did he not transfer to a club in Longford, Leitrim or Fermanagh. He could have lived there and played with that county and had a comfortable comute to work every day. Why do you think that is Richie? Teemore for example is only 20 minutes from Cavan.

That tells me all I need to know about Seanie Johnston. No place for people with such self importance and arrogance in the Cavan panel. Andrews has made the right decision and I'm certain of that now. Cavan supporters and Cavan Gaels supporters should now move on and support their club and county

Myles .. As you know for some strange reason the CB want Andrews there for the long haul. Maybe thats why he feels he can more the goalposts and tear the script up each year until he gets it right.

Seanie was cast into the Inter County wilderness under Andrews with no way back. What really was he suppose to do. ?
Why should an unproven upstart like Andrews tell any half decent player with ambition and skill that their Inter County career was finished?

Johnston like others saw through Andrews last year. He probably cant understand why a CB could back a manager so much with so little foundation. No loyalty from no one.

The main reason why he didnt transfer to teams like you say is he has been playing with a team like that for 9 years often carrying the forward line on his own. Now he can play with and against the best.
Could his recent lack of form have been down to lack of supply?? I haven't seen him kick untold wides  or squander chance after chance. Have you?

We both know he was head hunted buy McGeeney when news of this fallout became known.
Surely McGeeney has done his research on Johnstons temperament and both on and off the field as well as researching any negative influences that Johnston supposedly had on other players.

I really do hope he kicks them from angles for Kildare , but more importantly when the season is over, win or lose that Mc Geeney will make an honest comment on Seanies attitude and how he applied himself.

We are teambuilding here (again) Andrews in my opinion has got it very wrong as we everyone and more on board.
He is the manager ,he is suppose to man manage all types for the betterment of Cavan football.
He was moaning last year that certain players from the Gaels would not commit.
This i hope wont open up a rift between the Gaels and Andrews, but judging by their chairmans views he is having a pop at Andrews and rightly so.

Andrews is going to be judged this year on his results. No hiding place, No joint manager to blame, no Seanie Johnston to blame either

Richie - for every great game you talk of him playing I've seen just as many crap, effortless performances. You speak of his sub appearance against Wicklow in Breffni which was a great performance by him for sure. The year before in Aughrim he made zero effort the whole game, I know as I was at both. I have said it here on a number of occassions. He has all the ability in the world but it takes more than that to make a great player. It takes attitude, heart, teamwork, guts and fight to be the best. Thats where Johnston falls down and I don't think he will be missed as much as people think. We have good young players and I'm confident they will do the business in time and Seanie will be looking in from the outside and I think he will regret what he has done.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on January 24, 2012, 11:29:02 AM
Fair enough Richie, lets leave it there and move on. No hard feelings anyway.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: TheThirdManning on January 24, 2012, 11:39:06 AM
Well lads, just checking in.

Richie J. I think you completely misunderstand what the GAA is about. It's not about playing with the team that has the best chance of winning. It's about playing with your club and your county. Where you are from. It's about identity.

In my opinion Johnston has shown his true colours in this move. Willing to move clubs just to be seen as an inter-county player ::)

Its back to the main board for me.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on January 24, 2012, 12:53:22 PM
Kieran McGeeney bringing in a Cavan player in late January after a few years of team building? He's making it up as he goes along....

I've lost all respect for Johnston. He got into a rut in Cavan because he felt he deserved bigger stages, his performances and attitude were poor. Andrews decided not to put up with that and when McGeeney came calling Johnston saw his opportunity to get on the big stage and rub Andrew's face in it all in the one go. Such was his determination he was willing to leave the Club that he has played with since he was a child to go to a club and a county that he has no affiliation with. He chose Kildare because their profile fits his ego, neighbouring counties didn't fit the bill.

Cavan is bigger than Andrews, Johnston should know that. I agree totally with Myles. Andrews' decision to drop him has been completely justified by this. Regardless of what Johnston does at Kildare, his sole motivation was not to do it for Cavan, that is reason enough to show him the door.

Let him try standing over a free for over a minute fixing his socks and jersey until it's taken off him by the ref and see what McGeeney does. I hope our lads go on and prove that there are players in Cavan who do have some pride in wearing and fighting for the jersey.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: angellady on January 24, 2012, 12:56:32 PM
can everyone do me a favour and please ignore the comments of richiej!! . typical cavan townie. myles and mr. pain make a lot of sense tho. It's hard to know what to make of all this. Just one big sorry mess if you ask me. No winners in this situation.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Breffni_Yank on January 24, 2012, 01:31:59 PM
In my opinion, Val tested Seanie and Seanie failed miserably.

I don't care if we have another mediocre year now. That dressing room has needed a clear out for years and Val had the balls to start rustling a few feathers and get loads out of their comrfort zone.  We can start building with a genuine team now and hopefully we can keep improving.

I've said it before. I don't care if we are not contesting for All Irelands. All I ever expect to see when I pay into a ground is a Cavan team that tries hard and works hard to be the best they can be.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanforever on January 24, 2012, 02:05:47 PM
seanies move really shows how much he cares about his club and county. after he was dropped he should have kept quiet went about his business and maybe try play his way back into contention. anyway it doesnt look likely that he will play for cavan anytime soon. big loss in my opinion
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Ollie on January 24, 2012, 02:08:17 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on January 23, 2012, 11:52:33 PM
Rodney, if I saw seanie Johnston playing for kildare against the dubs then I'd be cheering for the dubs. I'd hate to see any success come from such a traitorous act. I heard mutterings that a resolution might have been on the cards and I was hoping that was the case but if this story is true then I hope it gives our lads a bit more motivation to do well and maybe win an ulster in the next few years. What if the gaels got the ulster club too?

Such begrudgery!! Myles if both Kildare and the Gaels were to win provincial titles this year you'd be one bitter man!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on January 24, 2012, 02:21:48 PM
I'd be delighted if Cavan gaels won ulster, why wouldn't I be.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: whats my name on January 24, 2012, 02:31:05 PM
Fcuk seanie Johnston that's what I say we are better off with 15 average footballers with a bit of heart and drive that play for the jersey then a good footballer who is only half hearted and has a stink attitude aka jelly
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on January 24, 2012, 03:36:50 PM
With thanks for his efforts over the years, but absolutely no respect for how he has reacted to being dropped, I say good luck to Seanie Johnston. He will forever be a sort of pariah in Cavan now that he has abandoned his club too, which shows that he really, really doesn't understand the team bond or pride of place that goes with GAA.

In some ways being in a drifting county like Cavan where he has been the big fish in the small pond, has probably encouraged any egotistical or self promotional tendencies Seanie may have. But if the move to Kildare goes ahead, he will find it harder to wag the dog dealing with McGeeney that's for sure. Then again that could be the making of him, who knows?

It's all a bit of a shame on one level but that said, nothing Johnston has done since the crime of dropping him was committed makes me think he's that big of a loss when you are looking to build from the bottom up and show a bunch of young fellas the right path.

So thanks for the good times, such as they were, and good luck. It will be interesting to see how it all pans out.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: whats my name on January 24, 2012, 04:36:46 PM
http://hoganstand.com/Cavan/ArticleForm.aspx?ID=160882
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on January 24, 2012, 04:48:09 PM
It's strange that the Gaels are turning down the transfer. Obviously he is their best player but whats the point turning it down when he now clearly  to go and they would just have an unhappy player at the Club. He didn't want to leave them at first but then had too when just living in Kildare wasn't enough. I'd say it will go through eventually.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanlad on January 24, 2012, 05:22:41 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on January 24, 2012, 04:48:09 PM
It's strange that the Gaels are turning down the transfer. Obviously he is their best player but whats the point turning it down when he now clearly  to go and they would just have an unhappy player at the Club. He didn't want to leave them at first but then had too when just living in Kildare wasn't enough. I'd say it will go through eventually.

Did they turn down the transfer, i didn't hear that, the chairman said he don't want him to leave, but will not stop him. It's 100% Johnston to pick from.

Also, does anyone know much about the club he is linked by the media to be joining; is it a senior club, winning county titles, like Cavan Gaels or just a run of the mill club.

Cavan Gaels have put this up on their tweet page

QuoteWe can officially confirm that we have not received any transfer requests from any player within club,or have we signed any transfer forms
Source: https://twitter.com/cavangaelsGFC

and who re tweeted it Kildare GAA; https://twitter.com/#!/KildareGAA.

I don't know who to listen, the media are making a mess out of it

QuoteSEáNie Johnston has submitted a transfer request to join Kildare club St Kevin's while Cavan Gaels have confirmed that they will not stand in the path of their 'want-away' forward, leaving him free to join Kieran McGeeney's Lillywhite ranks once the move is processed.

After a prolonged 'will he/won't he' saga, Johnston has finally decided to leave his hometown club in a bid to play inter-county football with Kildare.

McGeeney confirmed that the 27-year-old has applied to join St Kevin's, a senior outfit in the north of the county who won the Intermediate championship in 2008 and the club of one of McGeeney's selectors, Niall Carew.

The application was lodged last night and will be dealt with by Croke Park within the next 10 days after which time, if no objection has been lodged by Cavan Gaels or the Cavan county board, the transfer will be granted automatically.

Cavan Gaels have released a statement confirming that they are reluctantly accepting the request from Johnston, but voicing their disappointment that a resolution between the player and Cavan manager Val Andrews could not be reached.

Johnston was informed recently by Andrews that he was not required for the coming season. The forward then lost his case for a transfer with the GAA's Central Appeals Committee when he attempted to transfer on the grounds of residency.

URGE

He then met with officials from Cavan Gaels to urge them to support him with a case to the Disputes Resolution Authority, a request which they subsequently turned down.

"If there is no DRA move, I have a decision to make then," said Johnston last week, "one which I would make carefully after sitting down with people close to me.

"Some people will be annoyed with me in Cavan over my wish to move, but these are the circumstances I find myself in. I'm no longer a Cavan player."

Johnston teaches in Cavan but used an address in Straffan to correspond with Croke Park. A player is only eligible to transfer to a club in another county if he is a resident or working in that county and while he continues to teach in Cavan, he may also be forced to prove his residency in Kildare if requested by Croke Park.

McGeeney insisted last week that he would welcome Johnston "with open arms" but stressed that he would be forced to earn his place.

"If he wants to play for Kildare, the same as anybody else wants to play for Kildare, I've an open door policy," he said.

"He has indicated that he wants to and we'll take him in with open arms but he's going to have his work cut out.

"If Seánie steps in here he's going to have to put up like everybody else."

- Conor McKeon

http://www.herald.ie/sport/gaa/gaels-clear-way-for-johnston-transfer-2997572.html

BUT CAVAN GAELS HAVE SAID THAT THEY DIDN'T SIGN THE PAPERWORK, WHICH IS NEEDED, THE SECRETARY OF THE CLUB HAVE TO SIGN ?????????????????
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Breffni_Yank on January 24, 2012, 05:28:30 PM
The more this goes on the more I think Johnston has a friend in the media who is just stirring the shite ;D

Bizarre!

The club he is supposed to be going are just a run of the mill club. They play Senior but never challenge for honours.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dougal on January 24, 2012, 05:34:11 PM
Quote from: cavanlad on January 24, 2012, 05:22:41 PM

BUT CAVAN GAELS HAVE SAID THAT THEY DIDN'T SIGN THE PAPERWORK, WHICH IS NEEDED, THE SECRETARY OF THE CLUB HAVE TO SIGN ?????????????????

as far as im aware,they have no paperwork to sign to grant the transfare, they can only object to it.i presume croke park will make them aware of the request in the next day or 2.also,i believe st kevins and the kildare county board have to grant the transfare.so,despite what sound like conflicting reports,johnston could have requested a transfare and not made the gaels club aware of it
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: PhilsJemmysField on January 24, 2012, 06:35:08 PM
Richard J please go away back to the Hogan Stand
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanlad on January 24, 2012, 06:47:36 PM
Quote from: Dougal on January 24, 2012, 05:34:11 PM
Quote from: cavanlad on January 24, 2012, 05:22:41 PM

BUT CAVAN GAELS HAVE SAID THAT THEY DIDN'T SIGN THE PAPERWORK, WHICH IS NEEDED, THE SECRETARY OF THE CLUB HAVE TO SIGN ?????????????????

as far as im aware,they have no paperwork to sign to grant the transfare, they can only object to it.i presume croke park will make them aware of the request in the next day or 2.also,i believe st kevins and the kildare county board have to grant the transfare.so,despite what sound like conflicting reports,johnston could have requested a transfare and not made the gaels club aware of it

the Cavan Gaels Secretary has to sign it. My brother transfed and that what he had to do.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: PhilsJemmysField on January 24, 2012, 07:07:44 PM
Inter county Transfers a club secretary does not "have" to sign them, it can go to Croke Park and they notify Club and County. Then Club and county can decide to object or sign. If the club secretary does sign it then it goes a lot easier. Of course in this case it tells us a lot about this angry little child that he does not have the manners to call round to his secretary and ask him to sign the form.  It goes from the club in Kildare. Away with him is all I can say. At  the moment we have a county team  not a great one but at least it is a team. It will take 20 ~ 25 supremely committed lads to break the cycle so hopefully we have that.

Now Richard J when you send a message again to me you may as well leave out all those Stars. You are / could even be described as a very angry little child. Now away off with you in the name of God and bring your pram and your toys with you.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Swadman on January 24, 2012, 08:32:00 PM
Transcript from the Official Guide 2003
TRANSFERS
Rule 37 Inter County
A player who wishes to play for a club in another county must apply for a transfer to the Provincial or Central Council as appropriate. Such application shall not be granted unless the player is in permanent residence in the new county...
Rule 38
A transfer becomes effective as soon as it is granted by the appropriate authority.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on January 24, 2012, 08:39:26 PM
Quote from: Swadman on January 24, 2012, 08:32:00 PM
Transcript from the Official Guide 2003
TRANSFERS
Rule 37 Inter County
A player who wishes to play for a club in another county must apply for a transfer to the Provincial or Central Council as appropriate. Such application shall not be granted unless the player is in permanent residence in the new county...
Rule 38
A transfer becomes effective as soon as it is granted by the appropriate authority.

Thanks for posting that. I was thinking you didn't have to inform your old club. Bad form for Johnson not to tell them, you'd think he owed his own club that much respect. Maybe he is mad they didn't foot the bill for his appeal?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Swadman on January 24, 2012, 08:41:49 PM
Transcript from the Official Guide 2003
Rule 33
A player may not play in a championship in two different counties in the same championship year, except as provided for at Rules 32(d) and 41

32(d) refers to University or third level students and 41 refers to the USA.

Any other questions must be submitted in writing, on the back of a €20, and sent to me at.......
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on January 24, 2012, 09:12:21 PM
Dont worry he will make the kildare team no problem whatsoever. We in Cavan must be blessed with forwards. We won an U21 title last year got hammered by a Galway under 21 team that are now ready to bring 37yr old Pauric Joyce back


the above is an extract from a post on Hoganstand today from a particular fruitcake called Sheva7 or some such. That's the trouble with posting under 2 names Richie baby eventually you catch yourself out. In fairness it was hard to imagine somebody else having views as "out there" as yourself.

As regards Seanie, thanks for many good memories but I'm afraid it's time to go now. I've argued on his behalf with other posters on this thread in the past on the basis that I thought people were jumping to conclusions about him to a degree. His newspaper interview last week changed all that in my view and he simply can't be back around a Cavan panel if he's so desperate to jump ship. Geezer must be some quare wan to flash the knickers. I wouldn't begrudge him any success in a different county, my only problem would be the deafening crowing of certain dudes who would see it as a kick in the nuts for Val Andrews.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on January 24, 2012, 09:38:20 PM
Quote from: anglocelt39 on January 24, 2012, 09:12:21 PM

the above is an extract from a post on Hoganstand today from a particular fruitcake called Sheva7 or some such. That's the trouble with posting under 2 names Richie baby eventually you catch yourself out. In fairness it was hard to imagine somebody else having views as "out there" as yourself.


Im afraid the poor fellow may need some help at this stage.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Ollie on January 24, 2012, 09:45:31 PM
I think Val Andrews may have caused himself a lot of problems regarding the exclusion of Johnston and the other prominent members of the Senior panel. In my opinion I don't think these players would have been dropped had we not had won the U21 and Minor Ulster titles last year. Winning those titles was a great achievement for the the county and the players involved. It's brought renewed hope for our county Senior team for the future. But I don't think this necessarily means that we will have success at senior level with the same players. Just because you were part of a good underage team doesn't mean that you will be equally successful at Senior level.

Take the Cavan under 21 team of 2005. They game agonisingly close to winning an Ulster championship. It was the indiscipline of one player that caused them to loose that final. But only a handful of those footballers made an impact at senior level. It shows that success at one level doesn't exactly lead to success at a higher level. I'm sure we can all think of players who showed great potential at minor level but didn't live up to it at senior level.

I think the exclusion of Johnston along with Lyng, Sheridan, Miller, Nesty etc sends out the wrong message to the newly promoted members of the panel. Andrews is basicly saying to the younger lads that the experienced so called "stars" of the panel are gone, now its up to you guys to bring the team forward. No pressure lads! In many ways Andrews is taking a huge gamble by depending on rookies of senior inter-county football to preform when it matters.

Another factor that needs to be considered is Emigration. How many of these young footballers are going to be in country come this time next year. I know of two footballers from my own club who are currently on the senior panel and who are fresh out of college and can't find jobs in their field of study. This is a problem that all GAA teams need to consider. I think Andrews acted far too swiftly by removing the older and more settled players from the panel without thinking of the consequences further down the line. Only time will tell.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on January 24, 2012, 10:05:13 PM
Ollie in relation to dropping the more experienced settled panel members.. What have we got to lose? We are dropping a group of lads who have tasted no senior success with Cavan, have barely clung on to Division 3 football for a number of years and been the whipping boys of Ulster. The sad fact of it is that the only way our relatively new team can make us sink any lower is to drop to Div 4 (and we have looked like a Div 4 side in the past few years). Lyng, Sheridan, Nesty, Mackey haven't performed when it mattered for Cavan. Andrews is risking nothing if you ask me. We are bottom of the barrel as it is.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on January 24, 2012, 10:09:20 PM
Quote from: Westside on January 24, 2012, 10:05:13 PM
Ollie in relation to dropping the more experienced settled panel members.. What have we got to lose? We are dropping a group of lads who have tasted no senior success with Cavan, have barely clung on to Division 3 football for a number of years and been the whipping boys of Ulster. The sad fact of it is that the only way our relatively new team can make us sink any lower is to drop to Div 4 (and we have looked like a Div 4 side in the past few years). Lyng, Sheridan, Nesty, Mackey haven't performed when it mattered for Cavan. Andrews is risking nothing if you ask me. We are bottom of the barrel as it is.

Dropping to divison 4 did Roscommon no harm.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on January 24, 2012, 10:12:32 PM
(http://www.hoganstand.com/Common/ImageGallery/stephenking090707.jpg)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Breffni_Yank on January 24, 2012, 10:16:28 PM
Jesus they don't make the kits like they used to!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Ollie on January 24, 2012, 10:21:37 PM
Quote from: Westside on January 24, 2012, 10:05:13 PM
Ollie in relation to dropping the more experienced settled panel members.. What have we got to lose? We are dropping a group of lads who have tasted no senior success with Cavan, have barely clung on to Division 3 football for a number of years and been the whipping boys of Ulster. The sad fact of it is that the only way our relatively new team can make us sink any lower is to drop to Div 4 (and we have looked like a Div 4 side in the past few years). Lyng, Sheridan, Nesty, Mackey haven't performed when it mattered for Cavan. Andrews is risking nothing if you ask me. We are bottom of the barrel as it is.

True. Things couldn't get much worse than last year. But I still think players such as Johnston, Lyng and Sheridan still have something to offer. And sure who knows maybe the latter two might yet but It seems very doubtful. I just wouldnt go resting my Laurels on lads straight out of the under 21 team. This years panel is going to be very inexperienced with Podge, Mckeever and Cullivan being the pick of the experienced members of the panel. I hate to say it but Div 4 is a distinct possibility. Lets hope for a good start against Wexford to build up confidence within the panel.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Mr. Pain on January 24, 2012, 10:23:17 PM
Caught in a trap. You can't walk out. Because you fcuked it up Richie!
Royalties on that one go to anglocelt39.

Obviously using two different email addresses there for two different logins.
Mr. Pain suspected as much but the slip up was inevitable.

has been raving on for far too long on both message boards spreading his vile propaganda and agenda to get rid of Andrews.

So, on another topic, how do people think the u21s will get on at the weekend?
It would be nice to retain the Hastings cup.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on January 24, 2012, 10:25:30 PM
Quote from: Mr. Pain on January 24, 2012, 10:23:17 PM


has been raving on for far too long on both message boards spreading his vile propaganda and agenda to get rid of Andrews.


And its possible that has made things worse for Johnston with all his FACTS.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on January 24, 2012, 10:39:33 PM
Quote from: Mr. Pain on January 24, 2012, 10:23:17 PM
Caught in a trap. You can't walk out. Because you fcuked it up Richie!
Royalties on that one go to anglocelt39.

Obviously using two different email addresses there for two different logins.
Mr. Pain suspected as much but the slip up was inevitable.

has been raving on for far too long on both message boards spreading his vile propaganda and agenda to get rid of Andrews.

So, on another topic, how do people think the u21s will get on at the weekend?
It would be nice to retain the Hastings cup.

Going by the results so far doesn't seem to be a lot between the two teams. Probably depends who wants to win and who is just using it for preparation. I heard today that the donegal cb only appointed a manager to their u21s last week as mcguinness isn't doing it anymore.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Breffni_Yank on January 24, 2012, 10:41:47 PM
Quote from: tommysmith on January 24, 2012, 10:25:30 PM
Quote from: Mr. Pain on January 24, 2012, 10:23:17 PM

has been raving on for far too long on both message boards spreading his vile propaganda and agenda to get rid of Andrews.


And its possible that  has made things worse for Johnston with all his FACTS.

A tiny little part of me reckons Richie J is an alter ego of Sean O Rinn.

I know we can't win Ulster u21 titles every year but if we can just be competitive and add 4 or 5 to the Senior panel every year then we will be doing well. Where is the Hastings Cup final. Might try get over.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on January 24, 2012, 10:50:48 PM
Abbylara at 2.30 on Saturday.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on January 24, 2012, 11:16:01 PM
Cavan have been playing a weakened team in the Hastings Cup so far, still lots of lads to go back into the team I think. I'd be friendly with one of the Leitrim lads and he said what won us the game against them was the pace in our forwards.

U21 is notoriously hard to predict or keep any sort of consistency from 1 year to the next. Down lost the AI Final in 2009 by a last minute goal and we hammered them in the first round in 2010. If we could get some sort of a run going it would speak volumes for the development squads.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on January 24, 2012, 11:56:20 PM
Alot of posters jumping to conclusions and judging a lad without knowing any facts. Football would have been the last thing on Seans mind the last few days. Whatever he decides to do it's his own choice and it's none of mine or the rests business and I think everybody should bear that in mind before posting any more opinions/ abuse or loose facts.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on January 25, 2012, 09:34:36 AM
Quote from: boojangles on January 24, 2012, 11:56:20 PM
Alot of posters jumping to conclusions and judging a lad without knowing any facts. Football would have been the last thing on Seans mind the last few days. Whatever he decides to do it's his own choice and it's none of mine or the rests business and I think everybody should bear that in mind before posting any more opinions/ abuse or loose facts.

Most of the facts are known in relation to who he wants to play for and where he says he lives.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Gaaboardmod3 on January 25, 2012, 10:35:17 AM
Right lads. I don't know what has or has not been said on Hogan Stand, nor do I care. Can we make sure we play the ball, and not the man here though. No need for name calling, simply disagree with the poster.

Cheers
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on January 25, 2012, 03:20:18 PM
Quote from: tommysmith on January 25, 2012, 09:34:36 AM
Quote from: boojangles on January 24, 2012, 11:56:20 PM
Alot of posters jumping to conclusions and judging a lad without knowing any facts. Football would have been the last thing on Seans mind the last few days. Whatever he decides to do it's his own choice and it's none of mine or the rests business and I think everybody should bear that in mind before posting any more opinions/ abuse or loose facts.

Most of the facts are known in relation to who he wants to play for and where he says he lives.

Yes Tommy but alot of posters have jumped to the conclusion that Sean wasn't man enough to go to his own club secretary to request a transfer. Nobody knows that he hasn't nor does anybody know that he has definitely requested a transfer yet. The lad only buried his grandfather on Monday.
Sean Johnston hasn't committed a crime and his own personal decisions will not impact one iota on my life or any other poster or Cavan supporter for that matter and we should all bear that in mind. It's an amateur sport and the man is free to do whatever he wants and he should be free to do it without the begrudgery and spitefullness of so-called Cavan supporters.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on January 25, 2012, 03:46:57 PM
Well said Booj.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Breffni_Yank on January 25, 2012, 04:25:04 PM
Quote from: Gaaboardmod3 on January 25, 2012, 10:35:17 AM
Right lads. I don't know what has or has not been said on Hogan Stand, nor do I care. Can we make sure we play the ball, and not the man here though. No need for name calling, simply disagree with the poster.

Cheers

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xoTzLLZMrKc
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: s__words on January 25, 2012, 08:52:46 PM
Quote from: boojangles on January 25, 2012, 03:20:18 PM
Quote from: tommysmith on January 25, 2012, 09:34:36 AM
Quote from: boojangles on January 24, 2012, 11:56:20 PM
Sean Johnston hasn't committed a crime and his own personal decisions will not impact one iota on my life or any other poster or Cavan supporter for that matter and we should all bear that in mind. It's an amateur sport and the man is free to do whatever he wants and he should be free to do it without the begrudgery and spitefullness of so-called Cavan supporters.

Neither has Val Andrews or his management team committed a crime,and likewise they should be allowed to get on with their job without the begrudgery and spitefulness of the so called Cavan supporters.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on January 25, 2012, 09:59:33 PM
Quote from: boojangles on January 25, 2012, 03:20:18 PM
Quote from: tommysmith on January 25, 2012, 09:34:36 AM
Quote from: boojangles on January 24, 2012, 11:56:20 PM
Alot of posters jumping to conclusions and judging a lad without knowing any facts. Football would have been the last thing on Seans mind the last few days. Whatever he decides to do it's his own choice and it's none of mine or the rests business and I think everybody should bear that in mind before posting any more opinions/ abuse or loose facts.

Most of the facts are known in relation to who he wants to play for and where he says he lives.

Yes Tommy but alot of posters have jumped to the conclusion that Sean wasn't man enough to go to his own club secretary to request a transfer. Nobody knows that he hasn't nor does anybody know that he has definitely requested a transfer yet. The lad only buried his grandfather on Monday.
Sean Johnston hasn't committed a crime and his own personal decisions will not impact one iota on my life or any other poster or Cavan supporter for that matter and we should all bear that in mind. It's an amateur sport and the man is free to do whatever he wants and he should be free to do it without the begrudgery and spitefullness of so-called Cavan supporters.

Boojangles - I normally agree with a lot of what you post but I'm sorry to say not on this occasion. The following is in the public domain...

Seanie Johnston had applied for a transfer to a club in Kildare...

http://www.herald.ie/sport/gaa/johnston-poised-for-move-to-kildare-2997547.html
http://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/gaa/kildare-club-hail-johnston-but-gaels-await-transfer-request-181403.html

Cavan Gaels do not know anything about the transfer so it is reasonable to assume their secretary was not informed...

http://hoganstand.com/cavan/ArticleForm.aspx?ID=160882

Unless his new club, Kieran McGeeney and Cavan Gaels are all telling lies then that is the case is it not?

Seanie Johnston is an amateur player - true
He can do what he wants - true, within the laws of the association of course
Won't impact our lives - true

However, as a paying Cavan supporter I am also free to call a spade a spade. If you think that makes me bitter, begrudging or a "so called supporter" fair enough. My loyalty is to Cavan and no one player is more important than that.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on January 26, 2012, 02:53:47 PM
Interesting post on Hoganstand, I hope the poster won't mind if I put it here too. I didn't see the show in question but this seems the most plausible account of how this all began and imo does not reflect well on Johnston.

Whilst occasionally interjecting with an observation or inquiry as to the debate being carried out on this medium i have noted with interest the assertions and pointed opinions of 2 contributors in particular. I wonder if either happened to hear the sports show with Con Murphy last nighton rte radio 1 at 7pm. I missed the name of the reporter as i only tuned in after receiving a message to say it was covering the Cavan to Kildare tranfer story.

This gentleman confirmed that both Cavan county board and the Cavan Gaels club during the afternoon had received a transfer request already signed by the player, Kildare county secretary and St. Kevins club secretary. The processisthat 10days fromreceipt of the transfer if neither party have an objection the request will automaticallygo through.

What i found of interest is that the reporter went on to make a number of very salient points which i hadn't heard or read before.

1. Cavan county board had written to every panelist from the 2011 campaign in August-September thanking them for their efforts and advising them that the panel had been disbanded. This gave the manager a clean sheet to work with for the coming season.

2. The manager whilst putting together his preliminary panel obviously phoned players he wanted to invite inbut despite the panel already been disbanded out of courtesy, he also rang individuals not being looked for at that juncture. The reporter went on to say these players included former captain Martin Cahill, Micheal Lyng, Dermot Sheridan, Cian Mackey, Gareth Smith and Sean Johnston.

3. It was said that Cavan operated an open door policy and that this group are training with their clubs and depending on their progress may or may not feature with Cavan later in the season.

4. The reporter stated clearly that no player was told he would never play for the manager or Cavan again.

Now i respect everyone's rights to decide to follow what ever routeisopen tothem, but my read on this situation is that Sean Johnston, who lets not forget was stripped of the captaincy of Cavan Gaelsand dropped for the early rounds of the championship last summer decided that: a. Val Andrews wouldn't drop him. b. He would never play for Andrews again.

I have huge admiration for Sean Johnston's talents, I've always had reservations about his attitude but for someone or something special you make allowances. I admire that the manager hasn't repeated what happened in Waterford when Eoin Kelly was dropped. The manager did what the posters called for and explained fully why Kelly was dropped and it was then replayed and examined by every hack in the country. Players are amateurs and don't deserve short comingsifany to be published for amusement or to satisfy a lust for scandal.

I wish Sean every good luckand hope hedoesn't regret a decision that i have no doubt was helped by Kieran McGeeny who obviously has a different agenda.

My hope here is that everyone else just gets on with the task in hand, which is the betterment of Cavan football. Support our current players and by all means analyse but don't grind axes for sport.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on January 26, 2012, 03:08:57 PM
I don't Johnston would be going back to the gaels at any stage this year, was the transfer request that he Play league football and championship football with St Kevins. If he is going to be playing with Kildare for more than one year he isn't going to Just leave St Kevins in July or August and then expect to go back playing for them the following year.

Gallagher played 5 or 5 games in the league with crosserlough btw before he headed back to brigids.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on January 26, 2012, 03:10:34 PM
meant to post that in the seanie johnston page. :-[
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on January 26, 2012, 03:21:54 PM
http://www.rte.ie/radio1/podcast/podcast_sportat7.xml

Here it is if anyone wants to listen. Click on the Wed 25th link.d
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on January 26, 2012, 10:08:07 PM
Quote from: Westside on January 26, 2012, 03:21:54 PM
http://www.rte.ie/radio1/podcast/podcast_sportat7.xml

Here it is if anyone wants to listen. Click on the Wed 25th link.d


It would do Richie no harm to listen to that.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on January 26, 2012, 10:21:41 PM
What part of what he says do you reckon is not true?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on January 26, 2012, 11:10:47 PM
What were the other 6 players told then?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on January 27, 2012, 09:29:33 AM
Quote from: Richiej on January 26, 2012, 11:19:53 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on January 26, 2012, 11:10:47 PM
What were the other 6 players told then?

Believe it or not, There that much stories floating around on both sides its hard to know what to believe.
Once the transfer goes through everybody should move on. Because there no winners here.

You dont seem to have much bother knowing what to believe.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on January 27, 2012, 11:09:57 AM
Hoganstand report that Cavan Co Board have the transfer request, as previously said by Owen McConnon. Now will they object? It seems they could object on the grounds that he is not a resident of Kildare no matter what his makey-uppey address says. I think this all goes against the ethos of the GAA and they should object on this issue.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: PhilsJemmysField on January 27, 2012, 11:56:55 AM
I think in fairness to Boo I think he is just pointing out there is more important things in life than football. Which Seanie boy has learned this week as well God Love him. If he wants to go let him go. Personally do not think he has treated his club, county, teammates or county manager which an appropriate level of respect but if he wants to leave. Then Let Him Off.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Breffni_Yank on January 27, 2012, 12:43:56 PM
Trying to move on from the whole Johnson debacle I think Paddy Power has a fair idea of where we are at.
Ulster Champ odds:

Tyrone    11/4
Down   7/2
Donegal   7/2
Derry          11/2
Monaghan   11/2
Armagh   15/2
Fermanagh   25/1
Antrim   25/1
Cavan   50/1

Division Three Odds

Wexford   5/2


Sligo   9/2


Longford   5/1


Tipperary   6/1


Offaly   7/1


Antrim   8/1


Roscommon   9/1


Cavan   9/1

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: PhilsJemmysField on January 27, 2012, 03:50:46 PM
Competitions regulations.

Here is the structure of League and championship next year 2013 Basically lots to fight for in Division 1 after that gets very complicated

Do not really fully understand this but probably the missing piece is that in 2013 there will be 6 SUPER amalgamations in the Senior Championship.

(1)   Amended Proposal for 2013 Division 1, 2 and 3 Leagues & Championships
2013 Division 1 League & Senior Championship.
2013 Division 1 League & Senior Championship will comprise ten teams, as follows:
a.      the Winners of the 2012 Senior Championship
b.      the Winners of the 2012 Intermediate Championship
c.       The top seven teams in the 2012 Division 1 League, not including (b) or (c).
d.      The winner of a playoff between
       the next highest finishing team in the 2012 Division 1 League; and
       the top team in the 2012 Division 2 League

If the top team in the 2012 Division 2 League has already qualified for the 2013 Division 1 League & Senior Championship by winning the 2012 Senior or Intermediate Championship, no playoff game will take place and the next highest finishing team in the 2012 Division 1 League will automatically qualify for Division 1 in 2013.

2013 Division 2 League & Intermediate Championship
2013 Division 2 League & Intermediate Championship will comprise twenty teams.
Nineteen of these teams will be as follows:
e.      the Winners of the 2012 Junior Championship
f.        the remaining teams in the 2012 Division 1 League who have not qualified for the 2013 Division 1 League & Senior Championship
g.      the top teams in the 2012 Division 2 League, not including  teams in categories (a) to (f) inclusive.

h.      The remaining team will be the winner of a playoff between
        the next highest finishing team in the 2012 Division 2 League ;and
       the top team in the 2012 Division 3 League
If the top team in the 2012 Division 3 League has already qualified for the 2013 Division 1/Division 2 League & Senior/Intermediate Championship by winning the 2012 Intermediate or Junior Championship, no playoff game will take place and the next highest finishing team in the 2012 Division 2 League will automatically qualify for Division 2 in 2013.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on January 27, 2012, 08:38:54 PM
It's a very tough division alot of good teams in it.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on January 28, 2012, 01:37:28 PM
JFarrelley. JMcLoughlin KBrady. BSanky. TMooney. MBrady. DSexton. NMcKiernan. PKing. BReilly. PLeddy. FFlanagan. JBrady. KTierney. PO'Connor Cavan team to face Longford in the Hastings Cup Final at Half two.

Does anyone know why Martin Dunne didn't play for the U21s two years ago?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on January 28, 2012, 01:58:51 PM
I didn't realise Tierney was u21. Is he getting back to his best yet?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on January 28, 2012, 02:31:31 PM
He's captain this year so I assume he's going well.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on January 28, 2012, 02:54:16 PM
Dunne pulled out of the u21's two years ago as he wasn't getting much of a chance so i heard..
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on January 28, 2012, 02:58:59 PM
Sounds like a cracker in Abbeylara so far. 2-2 to 1-2 in favour of Cavan. Jack and Paul O'Connor with our goals. 20 Mins gone.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on January 28, 2012, 04:14:10 PM
Hastings Cup Final gone to ET. Cavan up by 2 at HT in ET. This is the type of game where the winning habit is forged. C'mon lads!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on January 28, 2012, 04:22:49 PM
Quote from: Westside on January 28, 2012, 04:14:10 PM
Hastings Cup Final gone to ET. Cavan up by 2 at HT in ET. This is the type of game where the winning habit is forged. C'mon lads!

Sounds like exciting stuff, keep us informed!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on January 28, 2012, 04:35:13 PM
Cavan pull away in the second half of ET and win by 5. Great result, lots of minors involved, Nevin with the equaliser in normal time, Joe Dillon with 2 points in the second half of ET. They need to keep the desire for Ulster now. Well done to all involved.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tierworker blue on January 28, 2012, 04:37:30 PM
Great stuff...well done lads!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on January 28, 2012, 04:38:37 PM
Top result. It was a good gauge of general form last year so hopefully it gives the lads a boost going into the Ulster championship.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on January 28, 2012, 06:31:19 PM
Quote from: Westside on January 28, 2012, 01:37:28 PM
JFarrelley. JMcLoughlin KBrady. BSanky. TMooney. MBrady. DSexton. NMcKiernan. PKing. BReilly. PLeddy. FFlanagan. JBrady. KTierney. PO'Connor Cavan team to face Longford in the Hastings Cup Final at Half two.

Does anyone know why Martin Dunne didn't play for the U21s two years ago?


Very good result mind you it looks like we were showing pretty close to our full hand, by my reckoning there were nine lads lined out that were involved last year. Any notable absentees that people can think of? Who was the big target man on last years minor team, Galligan from Lacken???
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on January 28, 2012, 06:42:47 PM
Quote from: anglocelt39 on January 28, 2012, 06:31:19 PM
Quote from: Westside on January 28, 2012, 01:37:28 PM
JFarrelley. JMcLoughlin KBrady. BSanky. TMooney. MBrady. DSexton. NMcKiernan. PKing. BReilly. PLeddy. FFlanagan. JBrady. KTierney. PO'Connor Cavan team to face Longford in the Hastings Cup Final at Half two.

Does anyone know why Martin Dunne didn't play for the U21s two years ago?


Very good result mind you it looks like we were showing pretty close to our full hand, by my reckoning there were nine lads lined out that were involved last year. Any notable absentees that people can think of? Who was the big target man on last years minor team, Galligan from Lacken???

Conor Finnegan.


Edit: Someone was asking a few days ago if James Reilly was on Senior panel this year.

Was told today that he is.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Breffni_Yank on January 28, 2012, 07:01:14 PM
Conor Moynagh?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on January 28, 2012, 07:02:37 PM
Quote from: Breffni_Yank on January 28, 2012, 07:01:14 PM
Conor Moynagh?

Conor Finnegan did you not see my post.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Breffni_Yank on January 28, 2012, 07:09:22 PM
Quote from: tommysmith on January 28, 2012, 07:02:37 PM
Quote from: Breffni_Yank on January 28, 2012, 07:01:14 PM
Conor Moynagh?

Conor Finnegan did you not see my post.

I know that! Someone else asked are there absentees. I presume Moynagh won't be too far off getting playing.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on January 29, 2012, 10:28:22 PM
I thought Conor Finnegan would have been included. Along with Nevin O'Donnell he looked the most physically mature player on last year's Minor team.

That team certainly looks to be close to the team that will play Armagh.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on January 30, 2012, 05:28:29 PM
Is that Fergal Flanagan(Castlerahan) (and Ronan's brother) or Fergal Flanagan(Buttlersbridge) at wing forward????
I'm suprised Conor Moynagh from Drumgoon isn't starting as Breffini Yank said, as for me,he was perhaps the best player in the Intermediate Championship last year.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on January 30, 2012, 05:35:02 PM
It's Fergal Flanagan from the bridge.. Fergal Flanagan from castlerahan is overage. Some very big players on that team,Flanagan, Mooney, Paddy King.Niall Mckiernan,Packie Leddy, Killian Brady, Mickey Brady.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: whats my name on January 31, 2012, 11:00:36 AM
http://hoganstand.com/Cavan/ArticleForm.aspx?ID=161190 looks like sj isnt going anywhere for the time being
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: North Longford on January 31, 2012, 04:39:47 PM
QuoteSome very big players on that team,Flanagan, Mooney, Paddy King.Niall Mckiernan,Packie Leddy, Killian Brady, Mickey Brady.
If there was one noticeable difference between the teams last Saturday that was it. Longford did not have one player as big as any of those lads. Packie Leddy is a huge man. Albeit almost all of Longfords team is under-age again next year and over half of them are again the following year but they'll need growth hormones to ever be the size of some of those lads.!!
As for the game i'd actually say longford slightly dominated possession in ordinary time but gave away  2 poor goals in the first quarter which had them playing catch up for the whole game. They also over did the short passing a bit too much. In extra time cavan had a spell of 7 or 8 minutes where they completely dominated and scored 4 or 5 points to about 1. The cavan subs made a far bigger impact and indeed despite naming 29 lads longford managed to take off 2 lads and put them back on again and only made 4 changes altogether. I'd be a little frustrated if I was one of the 12 that didn't get a run.!!!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on January 31, 2012, 05:34:22 PM
Will the team that started be the team that will face Armagh or will any of the subs give Terry and Co. a selection headache? Huge challenge for Cavan facing the Armagh team that won the All Ireland Minor in 2009..
Nevin O'Donnell proving himself to be a good omen as a supersub.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on January 31, 2012, 08:20:06 PM
Its great to hear Cavan producing some big men, its been sadly lacking for the last decade. I think we are bringing through a nice blend of pacey players and big lads now. Hopefully U21's can go on another decent run this year but they have a tough start. When is that game does anyone know?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on February 01, 2012, 09:09:14 AM
From Monaghan GAA site.  Looks a bit tough on Fermanagh or Tyrone.

Full Under-21 draw:

Preliminary Round (March 21):
Fermanagh v Tyrone     

First round (March 21):
Cavan v Armagh
Derry v Monaghan
Down v Antrim
Donegal v Fermanagh/Tyrone   

Semi-Finals (April 4):
Down/Antrim v Donegal/Fermanagh/Tyrone
Cavan/Armagh v Derry/Monaghan           

Final (April 11)       
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on February 01, 2012, 09:48:56 AM
Quote from: Denn Forever on February 01, 2012, 09:09:14 AM
From Manahan GAA site.  Looks a bit tough on Fermanagh or Tyrone.
Full Under-21 draw:

Preliminary Round (March 21):
Fermanagh v Tyrone     

First round (March 21):
Cavan v Armagh
Derry v Monaghan
Down v Antrim
Donegal v Fermanagh/Tyrone   

Semi-Finals (April 4):
Down/Antrim v Donegal/Fermanagh/Tyrone
Cavan/Armagh v Derry/Monaghan           

Final (April 11)     

Yeh, 2 games in a day. I thought we were bad having to play Ulster Final and AI semi in 3 days last year but that is ridiculous :D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: whats my name on February 01, 2012, 01:17:53 PM
sigerson on today lads have we many lads on teams around the country i know it sligo have a good cavan contingent marc leddy,paul o connor,eugene keating,david givney,declan meehan,martin dunne. who else have we on teams around the place is there a lad from mullahoran on the uuj team one of the gunners?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Breffni_Yank on February 01, 2012, 06:25:13 PM
Quote from: whats my name on February 01, 2012, 01:17:53 PM
sigerson on today lads have we many lads on teams around the country i know it sligo have a good cavan contingent marc leddy,paul o connor,eugene keating,david givney,declan meehan,martin dunne. who else have we on teams around the place is there a lad from mullahoran on the uuj team one of the gunners?

Just seen this on the net.

http://www.he.gaa.ie/Latest-News/freemansextra-timeshowputsditthrough
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanforever on February 01, 2012, 06:29:21 PM
o mara, gearoid mc, stephen cooney, martin reilly and ross sheridan were involved with dit, gearoid kicked 3. joshua hayes and niall murray were with ucd last night. noel brady is the man with uuj, dont believe he was starting yesterday though
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on February 02, 2012, 02:25:43 PM
The long kick out is back for another season.  Thankfully we have a Midfield that can thrive on this.

From HS.

Reilly return boost for Breffni
01 February 2012


Cavan keeper James ReillyCavan have received a welcome boost ahead of the NFL as goalkeeper James Reilly has returned to the squad.

The main talking point in Cavan at the moment is the ongoing saga of Seanie Johnston's proposed transfer to Kildare, which has overshadowed the county team's preparations for the league.

The Breffni blues travel south to take on Wexford on Sunday afternoon and Val Andrews will be able to call on the Drung clubman, who has committed for another year.

"I'm only back training a few weeks, I was training before Christmas, but something came up work wise, which took up a lot of my time," Reilly explained to the Anglo-Celt.

"I'm back at full tilt now and training is going fierce well at the moment. Val is an easy going sort of man, a bit like myself, he's been around the block and he knows what's what."
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Swadman on February 02, 2012, 06:05:11 PM
Quote from: Denn Forever on February 02, 2012, 02:25:43 PM
The long kick out is back for another season.  Thankfully we have a Midfield that can thrive on this....
Cavan keeper James ReillyCavan have received a welcome boost ahead of the NFL as goalkeeper James Reilly has returned to the squad.....

"I'm only back training a few weeks, I was training before Christmas, but something came up work wise, which took up a lot of my time," Reilly explained to the Anglo-Celt.

"I'm back at full tilt now and training is going fierce well at the moment. Val is an easy going sort of man, a bit like myself, he's been around the block and he knows what's what."
Two very revealing, and positive, bits of news there.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Swadman on February 02, 2012, 06:06:49 PM
Was it part of the Anglo Celts "good news" edition?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Breffni_Yank on February 02, 2012, 08:07:37 PM
Any word on a team? From what looks to be our panel at the minute I would like to see something like this:

I'd like to see something like this.

James Reilly
Oisin Minnagh
Sean McCormack
Damien Barkey
Mark McKeever
Padraig Reilly
John McCutcheon
David Givney
Gearoid McKiernan
Niall Smith
Eugene Keating
Ronan Flanagan
Kevin Meehan
Niall McDermott
Jack Brady
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on February 02, 2012, 10:09:59 PM
Jack Brady wont be involved as he is with U-21's.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on February 03, 2012, 10:07:07 PM
                     James Reilly
Damien Barkey, Sean McCormack, Ronan Flanagan,
    Dane O'Dowd, Padraic O'Reilly, Barry Waters,
            David Givney, Gearoid McKiernan,
    Niall Smith, Niall McDermott, Stephen Jordan,
Brendan Fitzpatrick, Eugene Keating, Raymond Galligan.

This is the team. Surprises would be Flanagan at corner back and Bud starting I suppose.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on February 03, 2012, 10:38:43 PM
I'm not that surprised bud is starting tbh, i think he is a quality player and will get more chances this year with no Johnston around. Thought Mckeeveer would have been ahead of Jordan at wing forward. Decent enough team with what is available.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on February 03, 2012, 10:55:14 PM
I would have thought Dunne would have played himself into that Corner Forward spot.. But perhaps Val doesn't want to rush him. Bud brings good pace.

Flanagan at corner back is a strange one though.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on February 05, 2012, 04:58:15 PM
4-09 to 1-13 to Wexford

Listened to it on Northern Sound,sounded like Wexford ran straight through our backline at will.
We have serious problems in the backline,Hopefully some of the boards posters were there and can tell us what exactly the problem is.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on February 05, 2012, 05:10:24 PM
Wasn't able to go but I heard we were 9 points down and got back to within 1 point and had an extra man but let Wexford of the hook as they got another 1-2 after that. Disappointing result, 1-13 should be enough to win a match but letting in 4 goals you are never going to win. Hopefully these back positions can be sorted out quickly and we can beat Longford next Saturday.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on February 05, 2012, 05:19:53 PM
It was 3-06 to 1-11 and Wexford 1 man down,with about 10 minutes left,but Eric Bradley scored a goal and Brosnan scored a great free from right on the sideline.
Graeme Molloy seemingly at a great game at full back for Wexford.
Wexford crowded midfield big time,with Paddy Byrne???? operating as a 3rd midfielder and causing Cavan great damage in the first half.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on February 05, 2012, 05:47:28 PM
first 15 minutes was like deja vu all over again. Cleaned out at midfield both to direct fielding and being beaten to every break, 3-2 to 0-4 down at that stage. Really came good in the last 10 minutes of the first half and went in two points down. went to sleep at the start of the second half in a carbon copy of first 20 minutes of the first half and were 6 points down. Awarded a penalty for a foul on McDermott and a Wexford sending off for a second yellow. Good effort from Galligan deflected over the bar. Really well worked goal finished by McKiernan and we were a point behind, a man up and the game was there to be won. Another Wexford goal and game over.

Positives: There will be worse teams play then Wexford this year, they are favourites to go up and were at full strength, most of the Wexford people around me would have agreed that it was a nip and tuck affair and the result flattered them a bit. Good performances from McKiernan, Smith, Keating an Fitzpatrick. Keating knows how to put himself about, spent a lot of time out the park. He was subbed with 5 minutes to go, might have been for his own good.......would like to see Fitzpatrick get an extended run/chance during the league, showed well, worked hard distributed ok and took one good score.

Negatives: Miller needs a wake up call. At fault totally for one of the goals, very casual in possession and nearly got us into trouble at least twice in the first half. started to vary his kickouts in the second half but a bit late in the day. Conceding 4 goals tells it's own story and we need to get defending sorted out fast. Suppose Minagh would be most peoples candidates for a position in the full back line he wasn't around today. Not sure what the situation is with the Hayes lad from UCD maybe he won't commit but he seems to have made the corner back position his own with UCD for the last two years. We had lads on the panel today who aren't getting Sigerson games for their colleges so what to make of it all, who knows. Barkey, O'Dowd and Podge were ok in spurts today but were up against it. Ronan Flanagan followed his man out the park and struggled a fair bit.

Ray Galligan good from frees but wouldn't add a huge amount inside from what i saw today. McDernott good and strong but might struggle a bit against better teams who cop on to him being a bit one sided.

Fannin and McCutcheon came on after about 40 minutes for Waters and Jordan. Dunne came on for Galligan and Declan McKiernan came on late for Keating.


This was always going to be tough as we are trying to rebuild from scratch here, lots of effort and hopefully we get a few breaks and can consolidate a Division 3 position this year and build from there. Big game against an impressive Longford outfit next week.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on February 05, 2012, 05:56:12 PM
Quote from: anglocelt39 on February 05, 2012, 05:47:28 PM
first 15 minutes was like deja vu all over again. Cleaned out at midfield both to direct fielding and being beaten to every break, 3-2 to 0-4 down at that stage. Really came good in the last 10 minutes of the first half and went in two points down. went to sleep at the start of the second half in a carbon copy of first 20 minutes of the first half and were 6 points down. Awarded a penalty for a foul on McDermott and a Wexford sending off for a second yellow. Good effort from Galligan deflected over the bar. Really well worked goal finished by McKiernan and we were a point behind, a man up and the game was there to be won. Another Wexford goal and game over.

Positives: There will be worse teams play then Wexford this year, they are favourites to go up and were at full strength, most of the Wexford people around me would have agreed that it was a nip and tuck affair and the result flattered them a bit. Good performances from McKiernan, Smith, Keating an Fitzpatrick. Keating knows how to put himself about, spent a lot of time out the park. He was subbed with 5 minutes to go, might have been for his own good.......would like to see Fitzpatrick get an extended run/chance during the league, showed well, worked hard distributed ok and took one good score.

Negatives: Miller needs a wake up call. At fault totally for one of the goals, very casual in possession and nearly got us into trouble at least twice in the first half. started to vary his kickouts in the second half but a bit late in the day. Conceding 4 goals tells it's own story and we need to get defending sorted out fast. Suppose Minagh would be most peoples candidates for a position in the full back line he wasn't around today. Not sure what the situation is with the Hayes lad from UCD maybe he won't commit but he seems to have made the corner back position his own with UCD for the last two years. We had lads on the panel today who aren't getting Sigerson games for their colleges so what to make of it all, who knows. Barkey, O'Dowd and Podge were ok in spurts today but were up against it. Ronan Flanagan followed his man out the park and struggled a fair bit.

Ray Galligan good from frees but wouldn't add a huge amount inside from what i saw today. McDernott good and strong but might struggle a bit against better teams who cop on to him being a bit one sided.

Fannin and McCutcheon came on after about 40 minutes for Waters and Jordan. Dunne came on for Galligan and Declan McKiernan came on late for Keating.


This was always going to be tough as we are trying to rebuild from scratch here, lots of effort and hopefully we get a few breaks and can consolidate a Division 3 position this year and build from there. Big game against an impressive Longford outfit next week.

Thanks for the report AC
how did my clubmate Sean McCormack get on?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on February 05, 2012, 08:01:15 PM
Defence wasn't a whole pile BHM, there was a lot of standing off, letting your opposite number get on the ball and hoping for the best from there, well not quite that's unfair to lads putting in a huge effort. Full back line has been an issue for a long time but we won't solve it by chopping and changing every week. Do you have any idea what the situation is with Dunne from Redhills   I know he was injured for a long while?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Breffni_Yank on February 05, 2012, 08:46:51 PM
Nearly coughed up the spuds when I heard we had let three goals in about 20 minutes especially cos James Reilly was back in there.

At least we didnt throw in the towel and roll over which is encouraging considering the age profile of the group but I mean how many times in recent years do we say we could have won that one but didn't.

I think we are in for a topsy turvy season.

AngloCelt, any chance you could post up what subs we had?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on February 05, 2012, 08:53:26 PM
Fintan Reilly Damian Reilly Slowey, Meehan, Cullivan, McClarey, McKeever were the unused subs refer earlier posts for subs that were used. Team started as announced which was a bit of a surprise.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on February 05, 2012, 08:56:50 PM
Quote from: Breffni_Yank on February 05, 2012, 08:46:51 PM
Nearly coughed up the spuds when I heard we had let three goals in about 20 minutes especially cos James Reilly was back in there.

At least we didnt throw in the towel and roll over which is encouraging considering the age profile of the group but I mean how many times in recent years do we say we could have won that one but didn't.

I think we are in for a topsy turvy season.

AngloCelt, any chance you could post up what subs we had?


Yank, unfortunately it was  not one of James' better days either. I'm hesitant enough to be critical of lads but I'll offer my own opinion what while James is a superb shot stopper, he can sometime be a bit worrying when he is in possession and he could do with a plan B kickout by times.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Breffni_Yank on February 05, 2012, 09:05:44 PM
Quote from: anglocelt39 on February 05, 2012, 08:56:50 PM
Quote from: Breffni_Yank on February 05, 2012, 08:46:51 PM
Nearly coughed up the spuds when I heard we had let three goals in about 20 minutes especially cos James Reilly was back in there.

At least we didnt throw in the towel and roll over which is encouraging considering the age profile of the group but I mean how many times in recent years do we say we could have won that one but didn't.

I think we are in for a topsy turvy season.

AngloCelt, any chance you could post up what subs we had?


Yank, unfortunately it was  not one of James' better days either. I'm hesitant enough to be critical of lads but I'll offer my own opinion what while James is a superb shot stopper, he can sometime be a bit worrying when he is in possession and he could do with a plan B kickout by times.

Thanks for that AC. Not too many options jumping out from the bench for the full-back is there? Where is Moynagh?

I just seen above that in the interview above somewhere James said he was only back a couple of weeks. He is normally reliable for us in fairness to him.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on February 05, 2012, 09:10:47 PM
Not a whole pile of options at midfield either Yank if one of the two lads get hurt or burned out. Think you would be looking at Ray Cullivan or, based on the way we played today, Keating. Very impressed with him, nice to see a bit of mongrel in a few of our players
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Breffni_Yank on February 05, 2012, 09:19:11 PM
Quote from: anglocelt39 on February 05, 2012, 09:10:47 PM
Not a whole pile of options at midfield either Yank if one of the two lads get hurt or burned out. Think you would be looking at Ray Cullivan or, based on the way we played today, Keating. Very impressed with him, nice to see a bit of mongrel in a few of our players

Clearly not enough of it if we shipped four goals!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: TheThirdManning on February 05, 2012, 10:42:06 PM
I see 7 of the Galways lads from last year made the step up today to the senior side today.

How many of the Cavan boys did? Was suprised to hear that nobody from Cork or Wexford, the other two semi-finalists, made the step up .
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Richiej on February 06, 2012, 11:26:41 AM
We need to get some experience back in the panel asap.
Smith, Mackey, Clarke, Lyng, Sheridan, and even the so called "disruptive problem boy" Seanie.

Other so called "disruptive problem boys" Nicky Joyce and Owen Mulligan had stormers this weekend.
Would that be because  their respective managers Harte and Mullholand can "man manage" so called disruptive players with attitude?

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Breffni_Yank on February 06, 2012, 11:40:38 AM
Quote from: Richiej on February 06, 2012, 11:26:41 AM
We need to get some experience back in the panel asap.
Smith, Mackey, Clarke, Lyng, Sheridan, and even the so called "disruptive problem boy" Seanie.

Other so called "disruptive problem boys" Nicky Joyce and Owen Mulligan had stormers this weekend.
Would that be because  their respective managers Harte and Mullholand can "man manage" so called disruptive players with attitude?

Richie we managed to score 1-13 yesterday with this 'inexperienced side'. Our problems are at the other end and I fail to see how any of the players you mentioned are going to help us there. All have been trialled and failed before.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Richiej on February 06, 2012, 11:55:32 AM
Quote from: Breffni_Yank on February 06, 2012, 11:40:38 AM
Quote from: Richiej on February 06, 2012, 11:26:41 AM
We need to get some experience back in the panel asap.
Smith, Mackey, Clarke, Lyng, Sheridan, and even the so called "disruptive problem boy" Seanie.

Other so called "disruptive problem boys" Nicky Joyce and Owen Mulligan had stormers this weekend.
Would that be because  their respective managers Harte and Mullholand can "man manage" so called disruptive players with attitude?

Richie we managed to score 1-13 yesterday with this 'inexperienced side'. Our problems are at the other end and I fail to see how any of the players you mentioned are going to help us there. All have been trialled and failed before.

Breffni Yank You fail to mention the Wides and the missed Peno,Clarke and Sheridan would definetely make a difference in that backline, also to have a proper panel nowadays you need 2 players for most positions,
Nothing will justify Val leaving the players he has left off the panel.

Experience wins games when the chips are down and when we got it down to 1pt in the 2nd half thats when it would have been great to have an experienced few players to call on.
Management need to look at the bigger picture .......just ask Mickey Harte or Alan Mullholland.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Breffni_Yank on February 06, 2012, 12:02:40 PM
Quote from: Richiej on February 06, 2012, 11:55:32 AM
Quote from: Breffni_Yank on February 06, 2012, 11:40:38 AM
Quote from: Richiej on February 06, 2012, 11:26:41 AM
We need to get some experience back in the panel asap.
Smith, Mackey, Clarke, Lyng, Sheridan, and even the so called "disruptive problem boy" Seanie.

Other so called "disruptive problem boys" Nicky Joyce and Owen Mulligan had stormers this weekend.
Would that be because  their respective managers Harte and Mullholand can "man manage" so called disruptive players with attitude?

Richie we managed to score 1-13 yesterday with this 'inexperienced side'. Our problems are at the other end and I fail to see how any of the players you mentioned are going to help us there. All have been trialled and failed before.

Breffni Yank You fail to mention the Wides and the missed Peno,Clarke and Sheridan would definetely make a difference in that backline, also to have a proper panel nowadays you need 2 players for most positions,
Nothing will justify Val leaving the players he has left off the panel.

Experience wins games when the chips are down and when we got it down to 1pt in the 2nd half thats when it would have been great to have an experienced few players to call on.
Management need to look at the bigger picture .......just ask Mickey Harte or Alan Mullholland.

Experience? No harm to the lads you have mentioned but they have played for Cavan during one of our worst spells ever at Senior football. They couldn't use their 'experience' over  the last few years to close out results so why all of a sudden because they were dropped are you making them out to be world-beaters?

I agree I would like to see one or two of them playing but don't cod yourself that these are knights in shining armour waiting in the wings to come back and rescue us. They are not.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on February 06, 2012, 12:03:00 PM
We lose a game because of our problems at the back and the lads bull on with the Johnston argument regardless.. It's fairly comical.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on February 06, 2012, 12:19:38 PM
Dermot Shieridan was looked at for FB before but didn't do too well but maybe he would be worth another shot.

RichieJ - come on, you are having a go at a player for missing a peno. Even Johnston missed one last yr against Donegal. Anyone can miss a peno.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on February 06, 2012, 12:32:15 PM
Remember last years league game against Limerick? When we got back to within a point, had all that wonderful experience on the field that Richie is calling for and.... lost in similar fashion to yesterday.

The management need to stick with these lads and concentrate on defensive coaching, teams will aim to run through Cavan now. They need to make a statement against Longford and close shop.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Richiej on February 06, 2012, 12:38:26 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on February 06, 2012, 12:19:38 PM
Dermot Shieridan was looked at for FB before but didn't do too well but maybe he would be worth another shot.

RichieJ - come on, you are having a go at a player for missing a peno. Even Johnston missed one last yr against Donegal. Anyone can miss a peno.

Myles .. im not having a go at any player . They inexperienced in National League terms.

My original point is that if Harte and Mullholland can handle "so called problem players " in Joyce and Mulligan maybe Andrews should have done more to handle Johnston.

Also experience is needed around the panel this time of year whether used for 70 minutes or not.
Heads drop when things go wrong and no manager in his right mind cuts experience from the panel in Feburary. Even Jimmy Barry Murphy brought OHalpin back , ok he hasnt used him yet but he in around the panel. We cant afford to cut our nose off to spite our face!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Richiej on February 06, 2012, 12:50:32 PM
How about dropping G McKiernan back to centre half back and maybe trying McCutcheon in full back?

Cullivan and Givney in midfield and Keating on the "forty" with McDermott on the edge of the square?

Now is the time to try a few combinations.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Breffni_Yank on February 06, 2012, 12:57:56 PM
Barring men that haven't played for Cavan in a few years like some of the Gaels lads, what would people choose as their Cavan team if all was well in the world?

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on February 06, 2012, 01:14:12 PM
Funny enough 12 months ago a few on here were suggesting McCutcheon for FB but I don't think it was ever tried. I assume management just don't fancy him there?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Richiej on February 06, 2012, 01:20:14 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on February 06, 2012, 01:14:12 PM
Funny enough 12 months ago a few on here were suggesting McCutcheon for FB but I don't think it was ever tried. I assume management just don't fancy him there?

Is he related to Christy McCuthcheon? Because i remember Christy as a No nonsense  good Co Minor full back in the 70s
If he had two tough tackling corner backs with him he could make that position his own.
Full back has been costing us for a few years now
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Breffni_Yank on February 06, 2012, 01:31:43 PM
For what it's worth ere is a team id like to see given a try

James Reilly
Hannon
McCutcheon
Moynagh
McKeever
Padraig O'Reilly
Watters
McKiernan
Givney
Niall Smith
Nesty
Flanagan
McDermott
Keating
Jack Brady
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on February 06, 2012, 01:39:37 PM
If Cavan had every player available including a few who don't want to play county football i'd have a team like this

1. J Reilly 2. Oisin Moynagh 3. Rory Dunne 4. Paul Brady 5. Eamon Reilly. 6 Anthony Gaynor ( despite his discipline problems) 7. John McCutheon. 8. G Mckiernan 9. David Givney 10. Niall Murray 11. E Keating 12. Mark Mckeever 13. Gerald Pierson 14. Niall McDermott 15. Bud Fitz 

Obviously johnston would be on that team aswell but he will never play for Cavan again so no point going there.. That is a type of team i'd like to see but thats only in hindsight a few of them have no interest in playing county. Cullivan, Niall Smith, Ray Galligan,Damian Barkey,James McCenroe and Martin Reilly, Pauric Smith from the gaels i would rate aswell but think he is in oz ,  they would all be close to that team aswell.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on February 06, 2012, 01:42:11 PM
And clearly Ronan Flanagan would be on the team aswell somewhere forgot all about him...
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Richiej on February 06, 2012, 02:07:19 PM
If everybody in the County was available well id go for something like this.... mixture of youth and experience,

1. O Mara

2.D Sheridan
3. McCutcheon
4.Watters

5.Clarke/G McKiernan
6.G McKiernan/Gaynor
7.Maloney-Derham

8.Sean Reilly
9.D Givney

10. N Smith
11. Keating
12.Lyng/P Leddy

13. J Brady
14. McDermott
15. Johnston/Dunne
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on February 06, 2012, 03:09:32 PM
Quote from: Richiej on February 06, 2012, 02:07:19 PM
If everybody in the County was available well id go for something like this.... mixture of youth and experience,

1. O Mara

2.D Sheridan
3. McCutcheon
4.Watters

5.Clarke/G McKiernan
6.G McKiernan/Gaynor
7.Maloney-Derham

8.Sean Reilly
9.D Givney

10. N Smith
11. Keating
12.Lyng/P Leddy

13. J Brady
14. McDermott
15. Johnston/Dunne

Gearoid McKiernan at wing or centre back?
Are you off your rocker???  ::)
Why exactly would anyone in their right mind put one  of Cavan's best midfield prospects in the last 25 years at a position which has been Cavan's weakest area over the last 6/7 years.
Sean Reily???  :o
How exactly would he have the discipline for IC football?
How many times has he got sent off and suspended for the Gaels over the last few years?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Richiej on February 06, 2012, 03:28:04 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on February 06, 2012, 03:09:32 PM
Quote from: Richiej on February 06, 2012, 02:07:19 PM
If everybody in the County was available well id go for something like this.... mixture of youth and experience,

1. O Mara

2.D Sheridan
3. McCutcheon
4.Watters

5.Clarke/G McKiernan
6.G McKiernan/Gaynor
7.Maloney-Derham

8.Sean Reilly
9.D Givney

10. N Smith
11. Keating
12.Lyng/P Leddy

13. J Brady
14. McDermott
15. Johnston/Dunne

Gearoid McKiernan at wing or centre back?
Are you off your rocker???  ::)
Why exactly would anyone in their right mind put one  of Cavan's best midfield prospects in the last 25 years at a position which has been Cavan's weakest area over the last 6/7 years.
Sean Reily???  :o
How exactly would he have the discipline for IC football?
How many times has he got sent off and suspended for the Gaels over the last few years?

Ive seen Jim Reilly, Sean Leddy, Donal Meade, Ollie Brady, Joe Dillon to name but a few all play in the half backline and midfield with good success.

Good versatile players like McKiernan can play centre back, midfield and centre forward.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Breffni_Yank on February 06, 2012, 03:29:34 PM
Val after the game yesterday

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zLuBDpFvBOk&list=UU_dITxUSD5opTnWHtgBCJhg&index=1&feature=plcp
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on February 06, 2012, 03:44:49 PM
If you were going to play Gearoid McKiernan anywhere other than in midfield it would be wing forward as he can would score freely as he already does in the middle, wtf would you be playing him centre/half back for in fairness?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on February 06, 2012, 03:50:22 PM
Quote from: Richiej on February 06, 2012, 01:20:14 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on February 06, 2012, 01:14:12 PM
Funny enough 12 months ago a few on here were suggesting McCutcheon for FB but I don't think it was ever tried. I assume management just don't fancy him there?

Is he related to Christy McCuthcheon? Because i remember Christy as a No nonsense  good Co Minor full back in the 70s
If he had two tough tackling corner backs with him he could make that position his own.
Full back has been costing us for a few years now

John is Christy's son alright....   He either plays midfield or centre half for us - its my own view that Cavan need a full back who plays there week in and week out...  Although not too many names spring to mind
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Richiej on February 06, 2012, 04:16:04 PM
Quote from: Celt_Man on February 06, 2012, 03:50:22 PM
Quote from: Richiej on February 06, 2012, 01:20:14 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on February 06, 2012, 01:14:12 PM
Funny enough 12 months ago a few on here were suggesting McCutcheon for FB but I don't think it was ever tried. I assume management just don't fancy him there?

Is he related to Christy McCuthcheon? Because i remember Christy as a No nonsense  good Co Minor full back in the 70s
If he had two tough tackling corner backs with him he could make that position his own.
Full back has been costing us for a few years now

John is Christy's son alright....   He either plays midfield or centre half for us - its my own view that Cavan need a full back who plays there week in and week out...  Although not too many names spring to mind

I think he would be worth a try at full back. Cootehill probably want him operating further out. Thats understandable, Christy himself was a good decent full back, John would be well coached!!

Until we shore up the backline all the good work up front wont be rewarded with results.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on February 06, 2012, 09:17:22 PM
Me attending Cavan games is a rare enough occurrence any more so I paid good attention and compiled a few stats yesterday which tell their own tale:

Scores taken                       14
Wides kicked (including one free)  8 ok might have been 9 I bailed out in the second minute of injury time
And finally that most heartbreaking/annoying and rage inducing Cavan forward trait of the last 10 years, yes folks the insipid "attacking" shot dropped short into the keepers hands and setting up the opposition            NIL (I joke you not).


There we have it, 14 chances converted out of 22, it's probably as good a conversion rate as a Cavan team has returned in a while. So the problem yesterday was not in attack by any stretch. In terms of possession won by the two teams the Cavan attack was by far the more economical and the Wexford crowd around me subscribed to that.

Defence was a disaster yet it's difficult to pick out one or two lads who had a total stinker. The problem started out the middle where we were totally dominated for 25 minutes of the game in two phases and let Wexford run at us at will. we had Gearoid and David well spread at kickout time which is a great idea if you are winning your own kickout but not so clever in terms of slowing the oppositions progress down when that's not working out.

Two of the goals we conceded were when Wexford got ball out the middle, ran at us at pace and left the full back line totally exposed, leading to a well converted penalty in one case. Another came from a very quick delivery into the full forward line and a great finish. Other was a poor keeping error compounded by a lack of attention by our full backs in the square. If you were to pick individuals that struggled in the backline yesterday you would probably say Barry Waters and Ronan, who got caught for pace a bit for the decisive goal. Am sure that will improve as the fitness level recovers. I wouldn't be overly critical of Sean McCormack, it's not as if fullback has been nailed down at this level for a long time and he needs a bit of help and support in settling into the position. Casting lads off after one or two games would probably wreck the lads confidence. Having said that there have to be a few other names to consider-Hayes?, Minagh?, Dunne from Redhills not sure if he or the others are available. Other option might be Podge with McCutcheon, Mckeever, Flanagan, O Dowd in half line.


Think that's me done. Hope we can pick up a few results, it's not all doom and gloom. Might send a postcard from Thurles from the Tipp game.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on February 06, 2012, 10:52:10 PM
Great post AC

Celt Man,is Joshua Hayes even in the panel?
I heard from a first hand source,that he is/was playing great stuff with UCD(not sure if they are still in the Sigerson)
Rory Dunne i believe came back too soon, after his operation on the cruciate,which is why he is still sidelined.
Sean has a big advantage has over Dunne in relation to playing full backin that he has blistering pace

You would think with such an inexperienced backline,that a defensive system something similar to Donegals of last year would be something that the management would have looked to implement.
I guess not  ::)

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on February 06, 2012, 11:38:37 PM
At the end of the day we are going to have to be patient with this team and hope to see improvements. I am very unsure if Andrews is up to the job but he has to be given a chance as do the players, especially if they are working hard in training and busting a gut on the pitch. All they can do is their best. I think we will know more on Saturday. A lose and its a relegation dog fight and a win means we can look at challenging for promotion. Fair play Anglo, good analysis of the match. You can be our foreign correspondent for all games in the deep south!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Breffni_Yank on February 09, 2012, 07:57:05 PM
Any word on team for Saturday? Will there be any changes?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on February 10, 2012, 01:11:03 PM
No team announced yet. Tonight probably.

Rumblings that Sheridan and Lyng are back with the panel...
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Richiej on February 10, 2012, 07:43:36 PM
Quote from: Westside on February 10, 2012, 01:11:03 PM
No team announced yet. Tonight probably.

Rumblings that Sheridan and Lyng are back with the panel...


So if its true that Lyng and Sheridan are back on the panel, how did it happen so fast??
Neither player had the chance to get his head down and work hard with his club as there is no club football being played at the moment.
So seemingly it was  just a case of Andrews making a point and showing whos boss??
Maybe he like to turn his attention to the 6 backs and start bossing them too!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on February 10, 2012, 09:01:38 PM
Quote from: Richiej on February 10, 2012, 07:43:36 PM
Quote from: Westside on February 10, 2012, 01:11:03 PM
No team announced yet. Tonight probably.

Rumblings that Sheridan and Lyng are back with the panel...


So if its true that Lyng and Sheridan are back on the panel, how did it happen so fast??
Neither player had the chance to get his head down and work hard with his club as there is no club football being played at the moment.
So seemingly it was  just a case of Andrews making a point and showing whos boss??
Maybe he like to turn his attention to the 6 backs and start bossing them too!

If true it is a message to the whole country that it is not a closed panel and that if lads didnt go running looking for new counties they would be in contention to return.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on February 10, 2012, 09:08:09 PM
We need to get some experience back in the panel asap.
Smith, Mackey, Clarke, Lyng, Sheridan, and even the so called "disruptive problem boy" Seanie



Richie last monday you were calling for Sheridan and Lyng to be brought into the panel asap. If that has now happened I assume you are happy with this, no? Why bring them back into the panel now, maybe based on conversations with the lads in question, maybe based on an updated fitness assessment/rating. Or maybe Val read your post last Monday and saw the error in his ways, although I think that would be unlikely.

In any event let's wait until we see the official story before seeing whether this is a classic case of something becoming a fact if it's published often enough on the Net.

Best of luck to the lads tomorrow night, won't be there, hope some of ye can post a report.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Richiej on February 10, 2012, 10:46:06 PM
Quote from: anglocelt39 on February 10, 2012, 09:08:09 PM
We need to get some experience back in the panel asap.
Smith, Mackey, Clarke, Lyng, Sheridan, and even the so called "disruptive problem boy" Seanie



Richie last monday you were calling for Sheridan and Lyng to be brought into the panel asap. If that has now happened I assume you are happy with this, no? Why bring them back into the panel now, maybe based on conversations with the lads in question, maybe based on an updated fitness assessment/rating. Or maybe Val read your post last Monday and saw the error in his ways, although I think that would be unlikely.

In any event let's wait until we see the official story before seeing whether this is a classic case of something becoming a fact if it's published often enough on the Net.

Best of luck to the lads tomorrow night, won't be there, hope some of ye can post a report.

Yes glad to see any or all experienced players back in the panel. You cant buy experience especially when there so much un tapped potential around the panel.
Just hope its true
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanlad on February 10, 2012, 11:02:54 PM
Quote from: Richiej on February 10, 2012, 10:46:06 PM
Quote from: anglocelt39 on February 10, 2012, 09:08:09 PM
We need to get some experience back in the panel asap.
Smith, Mackey, Clarke, Lyng, Sheridan, and even the so called "disruptive problem boy" Seanie



Richie last monday you were calling for Sheridan and Lyng to be brought into the panel asap. If that has now happened I assume you are happy with this, no? Why bring them back into the panel now, maybe based on conversations with the lads in question, maybe based on an updated fitness assessment/rating. Or maybe Val read your post last Monday and saw the error in his ways, although I think that would be unlikely.

In any event let's wait until we see the official story before seeing whether this is a classic case of something becoming a fact if it's published often enough on the Net.

Best of luck to the lads tomorrow night, won't be there, hope some of ye can post a report.

Yes glad to see any or all experienced players back in the panel. You cant buy experience especially when there so much un tapped potential around the panel.
Just hope its true

and i hope it's not.

team named

1. James Reilly
2. Damien Barkey
3. Oisin Minagh
4. Ronan Flanagan
5. Robert Maloney-Derham
6. Padraic O Reilly
7. Damien Reilly
8. David Givney
9. Gearoid McKiernan
10. Niall Smith
11. Niall McDermott
12. Kevin Meehan
13. Brendan Fitzpatrick
14. Eugene Keating
15. Raymond Galligan

good to see Robery MD in and Oisin Minagh back in, a better back line than last week, but i was at the game and Barry Watters was not bad in it. Podge had one mistake in the game and it resulted in a goal, James Reilly looked just like he had not stood between the post in weeks.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Richiej on February 10, 2012, 11:12:33 PM
Seemingly Meehan will be used as an extra defender breaking at pace. Similar to the role he played with the gaels
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanlad on February 10, 2012, 11:21:57 PM
Quote from: Richiej on February 10, 2012, 11:12:33 PM
Seemingly Meehan will be used as an extra defender breaking at pace. Similar to the role he played with the gaels

would agree with that. Sean McCormack i heard scored ten points last week vs Offaly, of which 0-9 were from frees, so can't frees away in scoring range, or you will be punished.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Breffni_Yank on February 10, 2012, 11:56:04 PM
That team looks better to me. We are so young though and Longford are a few years ahead of us in terms of development so I'm not getting my hopes up. I think our season in general will be a struggle.

The reality is we have 7 lads just out of u21 and 3 more on only their second year out of it. The subs are on the Cavan website...dont understand why McKeever and McCutcheon is not getting a run. No Lyng and Sheridan.

Fintan Reilly
Barry Watters
Stephen Jordan
John McCutcheon
Sean McCormack
Ray Cullivan
Declan McKiernan
Martin Dunne
Conor McClarey
Mark Mc Keever
Dane O Dowd
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on February 11, 2012, 06:38:11 PM
Anyone know if the game is on the Radio lads?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on February 11, 2012, 07:05:11 PM
Northern Sound as we speak 1 point to nil to Longford
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on February 11, 2012, 07:05:46 PM
Maloney Dernham marking Paul Barden...... :O
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tierworker blue on February 11, 2012, 07:18:55 PM
2 - 1 to L'ford
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on February 11, 2012, 08:00:37 PM
God, Tynan is tedious.  Talking about the first minor AI in 1929.  What is the earliest  game he has name checked?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on February 11, 2012, 08:31:54 PM
Relegation battle it is >:(
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Breffni_Yank on February 11, 2012, 11:41:36 PM
Ok il try to stay calm and keep this to some brief points.

We have been told the team has been training hard for a few months. All signs point that our focus this year was on the league as well yet:

We still have no kick-out strategy. We just hoof it out and hope for the best.
We have no gameplan. Our half-forwards don't know where they are meant to be. And nobody seems to know if the plan is to kick it in or work it in or what. From the stand it looks like we just sent out 15 relatively young lads and told them to try their best. That is not going to work again teams that have more experience and and are being managed properly.

To be fair to the players, effort was not lacking. We are getting genuine honesty for the first time in a while from a Cavan team. But all the training under the sun is not going to help us improve if we are not learning anything. We clearly are not in my opinion.

Someone please tell me what they have been doing in traniing for the past three months? These young lads need guidance and quick or we are going to ruin them
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on February 12, 2012, 12:03:52 AM
Breffni yank - some of the things you mention are valid for sure. Andrews hasn't shown anything from a tactical perspective in the past 2 yrs. It will be hard to avoid relegation now. Longford kicked a shed load of wides today so it was no improvement at all really except for not conceding goals.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on February 12, 2012, 02:52:35 AM
Just completely and utterly sick of this whole fu**king shambles  >:(  >:(
Division 4 here we come.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Richiej on February 12, 2012, 02:38:44 PM
Quote from: TheThirdManning on February 12, 2012, 12:45:50 PM
Bye bye John McCutcheon.

Its sad if rumours are correct that he has walked off. But in fairness if he is fully fit he hasn't had a fair crack at it this year especially with his experience and how we have been struggling recently.I hope this isn't the start of players leaving for whatever reasons.

I know a few lads on the panel and they have put a huge effort in so far this year, they have been very disciplined in training and day to day living. And that's great to see.

Tactically the management don't seem to have what it takes. There has been absolutely no improvement whatsoever since Andrews took over.

I really think Andrews should bury the hatchet with Johnston and co and get those 5/6 lads back around the panel at least. We clearly lacking experience when the chips are down.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Richiej on February 12, 2012, 03:20:34 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6En8fWEAdbo

Vals post match interview  when asked about Seanie Johnston fails to mention that the door was never closed to Seanie

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on February 12, 2012, 04:15:48 PM
Does anyone know for sure if McCutcheon is gone and if he is why? Has he walked due to a grievance with the set-up or is it injury related?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Richiej on February 12, 2012, 04:34:31 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on February 12, 2012, 04:15:48 PM
Does anyone know for sure if McCutcheon is gone and if he is why? Has he walked due to a grievance with the set-up or is it injury related?
.           All I heard was he was pissed off over players coming into the team starting line up having very little training done while he can't get a starting place on a backline that's falling apart.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on February 12, 2012, 04:59:02 PM
If that's true then I'm suprised. 2 games played he still had time to show the manager he was wrong. Ffs, if every player that didn't start did that we would have no subs. Don't know mccutcheon but he has always given me the impression of a good honest footballer. I would be suprised and disappointed if there is not more to this such as an injury.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Richiej on February 12, 2012, 05:27:00 PM
It's hard to know what's going on.I hope there are no more defectors but rumour has it 1/2 more ready to walk.. Post match press interview is boring and unclear . I hope that team talks are more constructive as Andrews for a lecturer is a very poor speaker mumbling all the time. We are just lucky that two of the teams with no points have a worse points difference than us so hopefully get 4 points from Tipp and Offaly  and hopefully 2 points of either Antrim or Sligo . opts should keep us up. Promotion is gone. It's just going down to Div 4 would be a total disaster for both these young players and supporters and would definetely signal the end of this management outfit
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on February 12, 2012, 06:06:43 PM
First things first here folks people are hearing an awful lot of stuff that is proving to be anything but true with the emergence of time. We had two players back in the panel on Friday who, it would appear, are possibly not back. So what people are hearing about McCutcheon's situation might need to be taken with a pinch of salt for the moment.

Ritchie, I'm not taking issue with you personally on this but the idea of Val "Burying the hatchet!" with Seanie??? What we do know as fact at this stage are as follows:

Seanie made an application to Croke Park to transfer to Kildare while retaining his club membership at Cavan Gaels-turned down;
Seanie then got his club to sanction a transfer application to join St Kevins in Kildare the County Board did not sanction the proposed transfer due to doubts as to his residence;
According to today's paper Seanie is up before the CCC tomorrow night again trying to get his transfer approved on the grounds that he has proof that he resides in Kildare.

Now this strikes me as a lad who is pretty bloody determined to get his transfer. I have absolutely no issue with the lad and i've defended his right as a private citizen to do whatever makes him happy. But for jasus sake what about the 30 odd lads that are currently putting the effort in? Val............"I've been doin a bit of thinkin and doin a bit of talkin and I'd like you to meet our not so new panel member-Bud/RayNiall say hi to Seanie and do your damndest to help him settle in............".

It really is time to move on on that issue at any rate.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on February 12, 2012, 06:25:38 PM
First round of the Minor League today... anybody hear any results?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Breffni_Yank on February 12, 2012, 07:05:06 PM
Celt Man, what is the story with McCutchen?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on February 12, 2012, 07:10:02 PM
Quote from: Breffni_Yank on February 12, 2012, 07:05:06 PM
Celt Man, what is the story with McCutchen?

ohh I'm not touching that one!!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Breffni_Yank on February 12, 2012, 07:12:53 PM
Quote from: Celt_Man on February 12, 2012, 07:10:02 PM
Quote from: Breffni_Yank on February 12, 2012, 07:05:06 PM
Celt Man, what is the story with McCutchen?

ohh I'm not touching that one!!

All reasons aside, do you know if he is still there or gone? A player I always rated. Hope the rumours are incorrect
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on February 12, 2012, 09:20:38 PM
Nevermind the whole Seanie Johnson saga,
Some of the other players Andrews discarded(Nesty,Lyng) and has not given a proper chance(Fannin, McKeever)
are still FAR and away better options than some of the young lads whom were clearly out of their depth last night.
Jesus Christ,1 of the 20 players used last night(who don't get me wrong is a good player with a high ceiling with regards potential),couldn't even get on his clubs 1st 15 in the club championship in 2011.
Now some of these young players given time and proper coaching/strength and conditioning will be good at this level,but right now,this panel is lacking big time in quality.
We all wanted some of these good young players to get blooded,but not all at f**king once.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on February 12, 2012, 10:47:44 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on February 12, 2012, 09:20:38 PM
Nevermind the whole Seanie Johnson saga,
Some of the other players Andrews discarded(Nesty,Lyng) and has not given a proper chance(Fannin, McKeever)
are still FAR and away better options than some of the young lads whom were clearly out of their depth last night.
Jesus Christ,1 of the 20 players used last night(who don't get me wrong is a good player with a high ceiling with regards potential),couldn't even get on his clubs 1st 15 in the club championship in 2011.
Now some of these young players given time and proper coaching/strength and conditioning will be good at this level,but right now,this panel is lacking big time in quality.
We all wanted some of these good young players to get blooded,but not all at f**king once.

Have to say, although I supported his decision to leave Johnston out, I am in agreement on what you say. If the league promotion is the goal for the season then why is he almost treating it as a blooding ground for all these young players. The only logical answer is that he thinks he can beat inter county teams with an U21 team. That is just not going to happen. I assumed McKeever etc were injured but I'm beginning to wonder whats going on. I think the Sligo game is critical for Andrews, a loss makes his job very dodgy as it will probably mean relegation. Sligo bet the shite out of wexford today and I expect they will be thinking about doing something similar to us.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on February 12, 2012, 10:50:20 PM
McKeever tweeting about being a benchwarmer.. Half joking from the context but shows he feels he's not getting a chance.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on February 14, 2012, 10:08:07 PM
Quote from: Westside on February 12, 2012, 10:50:20 PM
McKeever tweeting about being a benchwarmer.. Half joking from the context but shows he feels he's not getting a chance.

According to some bucko on Hoganstand McKeever is gone from the panel now. What in the name of God is going on in that set-up, looks like the manager has totally lost control. I am all for a clear out and support the managers right to do it but it looks to me like something is going seriously wrong and maybe Andrews is just not up to this. The county board want to be seen to be backing the management but at this stage maybe they should step in.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Breffni_Yank on February 14, 2012, 10:42:51 PM
None of our players made the Ulster squad anyway..No surprises there.

1. Brendan McVeigh (Down)
2. Brendan Donaghy (Armagh)
3. Neil Magee (Donegal)
4. Karl Lacey (Donegal)
5. Ciaran McKeever (Armagh)
6. Darren Hughes (Monaghan) Captain
7. James Loughery (Antrim)
8. Dan Gordan (Down)
9. Rory Kavanagh (Donegal)
10. Danny Hughes (Down)
11. Mark Poland (Down)
12. Peter Harte (Tyrone)
13. Martin Penrose (Tyrone)
14. Benny Colter (Down)
15. Owen Mulligan (Tyrone)

Subs
16. John Devine (Tyrone)
17. Joe McMahon (Tyrone)
18 Cathal McCarron (Tyrone)
19. Thomas McCann (Antrim)
20. Vincent Corey (Monaghan)
21. Owen Lennon (Monaghan)
22. Paul Finley (Monaghan)
23. Conleth Gilligan (Derry)
24. Ciaran Hughes (Monaghan)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on February 14, 2012, 10:46:48 PM
Was McKeever not one of the loose cannons a few years ago?

As someone said on Hoganstand, maybe Div 4 is our standard.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on February 14, 2012, 10:58:13 PM
Quote from: Denn Forever on February 14, 2012, 10:46:48 PM
Was McKeever not one of the loose cannons a few years ago?

As someone said on Hoganstand, maybe Div 4 is our standard.

No doubt he was in the past, but at the same time he has been training as hard as the rest of them and I find it hard to believe he is not considered good enough to make the team, same for mccutcheon.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Breffni_Yank on February 14, 2012, 11:04:41 PM
Division 4 is not our standard if we had our best team out.

Our young players  need older men in and around them. It is ridiculous to expect  what is basically an u22 team to go and beat the best pick from other counties.

If Tyrone started their u22 team they would struggled in Division 2 as would any other county in their respective division. We should be trying to mix a select few of our old with the new. Not completely alienate them from one another. 
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on February 15, 2012, 12:21:57 AM
Fill in the blanks lads,

The "outcast team"

1.
2. Dermot Sheridan
3.
4. Martin Cahill
5. John McCutcheon
6. Alan Clarke
7. Michael Hannon
8.
9.
10. Gareth Smith
11. Michael Lyng
12. Keith Fannin
13. Mark McKeever
14. Michael Brennan
15. Seanie   (  ;D )

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Breffni_Yank on February 15, 2012, 01:53:16 AM
I rejigged the side a bit.

The "outcast team"

1.
2. Dermot Sheridan
3. Anthony Gaynor
4. Martin Cahill
5. John McCutcheon
6. Alan Clarke
7. Michael Hannon
8. Lorcan Mulvey
9. Michael Brennan
10. Mark McKeever
11. Michael Lyng
12. Keith Fannin
13. Gareth Smith
14. Cian Mackey
15. Seanie   (   )

Now all we need is a keeper and we can set up a challenge match with against the Cavan team. All proceeds going to a good cause of course!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on February 15, 2012, 02:17:01 AM
Quote from: Breffni_Yank on February 15, 2012, 01:53:16 AM
I rejigged the side a bit.

The "outcast team"

1.
2. Dermot Sheridan
3. Anthony Gaynor
4. Martin Cahill
5. John McCutcheon
6. Alan Clarke
7. Michael Hannon
8. Lorcan Mulvey
9. Michael Brennan
10. Mark McKeever
11. Michael Lyng
12. Keith Fannin
13. Gareth Smith
14. Cian Mackey
15. Seanie   (   )

Now all we need is a keeper and we can set up a challenge match with against the Cavan team. All proceeds going to a good cause of course!

No idea how i forgot Mackey.
Mulvey is in London???? i think so he would probably not be an option in any case.

If you could get a decent midfield pairing, and make space for Brennan in the forwards,that outcast team would annihilate the current county side.

It just shows the talent that has been completely discarded with.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Breffni_Yank on February 15, 2012, 10:42:34 AM
Looks like we found our keeper BHM.

This was in today's Independent -

"Elswhere, Cavan boss Val Andrews has been hit with another setback after Cootehill defender John McCutcheon and Redhills goalkeeper Fintan Reilly both opted out of the senior panel."
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dougal on February 15, 2012, 11:14:27 AM
Quote from: Breffni_Yank on February 15, 2012, 01:53:16 AM
I rejigged the side a bit.

The "outcast team"

1.
2. Dermot Sheridan
3. Anthony Gaynor
4. Martin Cahill
5. John McCutcheon
6. Alan Clarke
7. Michael Hannon
8. Lorcan Mulvey
9. Michael Brennan
10. Mark McKeever
11. Michael Lyng
12. Keith Fannin
13. Gareth Smith
14. Cian Mackey
15. Seanie   (   )

Now all we need is a keeper and we can set up a challenge match with against the Cavan team. All proceeds going to a good cause of course!


a good cause like helping to pay for a new manager after the current squad gets beat out the gate by this team.this has been looking like a farce for a while but its starting to spiral out of control all together.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Richiej on February 15, 2012, 12:00:58 PM
In an interview in the Celt Andrews talks of making progress. His idea of progress is we didn't lose to longford last Sunday by as much as we lost to them last summer. Yes I've been Andrews no1 critic. But lord does that statement not sum him up. This can't go on. There players walking off panel left right and centre. Something seriously wrong. Surely they all can't want to play with Kildare!!!!!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on February 15, 2012, 12:04:49 PM
That team looks very like last years team.  How did we do?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Swadman on February 15, 2012, 12:57:44 PM
I wonder could the "outcast team" play in the Leinster Junior Championship ? or is that happening again this year ?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on February 15, 2012, 01:01:00 PM
Quote from: Richiej on February 15, 2012, 12:00:58 PM
In an interview in the Celt Andrews talks of making progress. His idea of progress is we didn't lose to longford last Sunday by as much as we lost to them last summer. Yes I've been Andrews no1 critic. But lord does that statement not sum him up. This can't go on. There players walking off panel left right and centre. Something seriously wrong. Surely they all can't want to play with Kildare!!!!!

I am not a fan of his either to be honest but I have to say I am really beginning to wonder what he is at. You are right him comparing this years defeat to Longford against last years is ridiculous (especially since this year Longford kicked about 30 wides). But then his pathetic claim that "Cavan scored more against Donegal last year than anyone else" was embarrassing.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on February 15, 2012, 01:48:04 PM
Quote from: Swadman on February 15, 2012, 12:57:44 PM
I wonder could the "outcast team" play in the Leinster Junior Championship ? or is that happening again this year ?

Imagine if they lost.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Richiej on February 15, 2012, 03:04:03 PM
It would be a pity after waiting so long for some underage success the young players would become disillusioned with the senior setup. It happened in Laois where underage success couldn't be transformed into the Senior setup. I hope Andrews doesn't rush players like jack Brady and packie leddy and others straight into the senior team when the u21 are over. Yes by all means blood the with 20 mins here and there .this whole blending of youngsters and discarding of so called older should and could have been done alot slower. This year and last year has shown too much inconsistent chop and change.Its easier all around to drop players for a game or two or three than discard them completely from the panel just to implement a quick fire plan.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on February 15, 2012, 04:53:10 PM
Quote from: Denn Forever on February 15, 2012, 12:04:49 PM
That team looks very like last years team.  How did we do?

Nobody is saying that,that team should start for Cavan DF, however many of those players do still have a part to play at senior level for Cavan.
The 20 man Cavan team+subs which played against Longford is the weakest i have seen in my time following Cavan football.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on February 15, 2012, 06:00:38 PM
Quote from: Richiej on February 15, 2012, 12:00:58 PM
In an interview in the Celt Andrews talks of making progress. His idea of progress is we didn't lose to longford last Sunday by as much as we lost to them last summer. Yes I've been Andrews no1 critic. But lord does that statement not sum him up. This can't go on. There players walking off panel left right and centre. Something seriously wrong. Surely they all can't want to play with Kildare!!!!!

Left right and centre? We have had 2 players walk from what I can see.. Not enough to cover the bare minimum of 3 required to fulfill that expression.

Lads 2 losses to two decent sides and we have mass hysteria.. We weren't going to be realistic promotion candidates with such a young side. This phenomenon of players suddenly becoming superstars when they are not on the panel/team is ludicrous. It's like when Andy Reid suddenly became Lionel Messi in people's eyes when Trap left him out.

Players crying off when they aren't getting their place isn't a great sign of their character either in my opinion. Especially so early in the year.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on February 15, 2012, 07:29:40 PM
Quote from: Westside on February 15, 2012, 06:00:38 PM
Quote from: Richiej on February 15, 2012, 12:00:58 PM
In an interview in the Celt Andrews talks of making progress. His idea of progress is we didn't lose to longford last Sunday by as much as we lost to them last summer. Yes I've been Andrews no1 critic. But lord does that statement not sum him up. This can't go on. There players walking off panel left right and centre. Something seriously wrong. Surely they all can't want to play with Kildare!!!!!

Left right and centre? We have had 2 players walk from what I can see.. Not enough to cover the bare minimum of 3 required to fulfill that expression.

Lads 2 losses to two decent sides and we have mass hysteria.. We weren't going to be realistic promotion candidates with such a young side. This phenomenon of players suddenly becoming superstars when they are not on the panel/team is ludicrous. It's like when Andy Reid suddenly became Lionel Messi in people's eyes when Trap left him out.

Players crying off when they aren't getting their place isn't a great sign of their character either in my opinion. Especially so early in the year.



would tend to agree with a fair bit of that assessment all right. we started off the season as favourites with the bookies for relegation to Division 4, we've lost two games and lads that were praising Andrews for a long overdue cleanout are now heading for the exits and calling for the return of blokes that were involved in the shameful campaign of the last 3 years. Ask yourself why we have an inexperienced panel and I will give you one possible answer. There is not ONE lad playing football in the County aged more then 23 years that has won ANYTHING in a Cavan jersey. I was at the Wexford game, good game of footy that, despite all the shite defending errors could actually have been won with a few lucky breaks (Wexford, by the way, are clear favourites to return to Division 2 with the bookies s).

Is it an inexperienced panel, yes, for reasons stated above. However, in the Wexford game we had the following available for selection.....James Reily, Flanagan, Fannin, Podge Reilly, McCutcheon, Mckeever, Cullivan. Now I'm assuming the reason they didn't all start was based on what was seen on the training ground. How many more do we bring in before we might as well just revert back to last year.

Final point -McKeever leaving the panel??? a bit like Sheridan and Lyng rejoining the panel. Fair bit of oul nonsense being talked it seems.

To quote the maestro, Rant Over
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on February 15, 2012, 08:49:16 PM
Quote from: Westside on February 15, 2012, 06:00:38 PM
Quote from: Richiej on February 15, 2012, 12:00:58 PM
In an interview in the Celt Andrews talks of making progress. His idea of progress is we didn't lose to longford last Sunday by as much as we lost to them last summer. Yes I've been Andrews no1 critic. But lord does that statement not sum him up. This can't go on. There players walking off panel left right and centre. Something seriously wrong. Surely they all can't want to play with Kildare!!!!!



Players crying off when they aren't getting their place isn't a great sign of their character either in my opinion. Especially so early in the year.

Well Fintain trained all winter and then another keeper comes back in and takes his place without doing much training.
McCutcheon is supposed to have quiet because Andrews told him that he didnt rate him.

Thats quitting because they have a bit of pride in themselves as far as i can see.

At the start i was willing to give Andrew the benifit of the doubt but i dont think he has a clue what he is at and should be got rid of ASAP.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on February 15, 2012, 10:28:30 PM
Quote from: Westside on February 15, 2012, 06:00:38 PM
Quote from: Richiej on February 15, 2012, 12:00:58 PM
In an interview in the Celt Andrews talks of making progress. His idea of progress is we didn't lose to longford last Sunday by as much as we lost to them last summer. Yes I've been Andrews no1 critic. But lord does that statement not sum him up. This can't go on. There players walking off panel left right and centre. Something seriously wrong. Surely they all can't want to play with Kildare!!!!!

Left right and centre? We have had 2 players walk from what I can see.. Not enough to cover the bare minimum of 3 required to fulfill that expression.

Lads 2 losses to two decent sides and we have mass hysteria.. We weren't going to be realistic promotion candidates with such a young side. This phenomenon of players suddenly becoming superstars when they are not on the panel/team is ludicrous. It's like when Andy Reid suddenly became Lionel Messi in people's eyes when Trap left him out.

Players crying off when they aren't getting their place isn't a great sign of their character either in my opinion. Especially so early in the year.

I have to say I am torn on the issue of Andrews. I agree when he makes moves to cut the big egos that have been hanging around the panel. I back him when he cuts 6 players as I assume he has his reasons - like why cut some of your most skillful players if there is not a reason. However, leaving that aside we have to consider his management ability...

- Last year against Donegal was the most pathetic tactical effort I ever seen, playing sweepers when you are getting hammered for example. Especially when you consider Hylands u21's had developed a tactic to beat Donegals tactics and the senior set-up comes up with this.
- His boasts that we scored more than anyone against Donegal were pathetic.
- The performance against Longford last year was worse than shocking. No fight anywhere on the field. My worst moment as a Cavan fan.
- This year we have players walking away. Is it logical to assume a lad who spends all winter in the gym, 5 days a week, then walks away for no reason a few games in for no reason. I find that hard to believe.
- As Richie says his after match interviews are rambling waffle. Muttering that we are improving, not sure when the next game is. If I were a player watching some of that I be wondering what sort of a clown was over us. A manager should be clear, confident and concise and at least sound like he has a plan.
- He has at least one selector I wouldn't let near an U12 team.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Richiej on February 16, 2012, 11:47:43 AM
One or two wins especially one at home would do wonders for those young lads confidence. It would be a massive boost , better than 10 training sessions. Because doubts are probably beginning to creep in to those lads minds now. Maybe players going back to their clubs for the next two weeks will freshen them up a bit. Because I think the Sligo game could make our break the season depending on the result. Will there be any fresh faces from the next two local league games that the management might find. It will be interesting to see what club game Andrews goes to this weekend. If any!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Breffni_Yank on February 16, 2012, 01:10:24 PM
Just seen the college results from yesterday. 4 Cavan lads involved in the DCU-DIT game and 3 played with Sligo IT.

Think I asked this before but are Jack Brady and Alan O'Mara in with the seniors? Both are playing regularly with their college since January.

Martin Reilly played for DIT as well. Where has he gone?

http://www.hoganstand.com/ArticleForm.aspx?ID=162136
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dougal on February 16, 2012, 01:19:24 PM
jack brady is with the u21s alan might be called in now that fintan has opted out.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on February 16, 2012, 10:30:15 PM
 As Richie says his after match interviews are rambling waffle. Muttering that we are improving, not sure when the next game is. If I were a player watching some of that I be wondering what sort of a clown was over us. A manager should be clear, confident and concise and at least sound like he has a plan.


Not so sure I'd use a managers performance in front of the media as much of a basis for judging him. If I did I'd be giving Sir Alex, Signor Trap and King Kenny their marching orders straight away. Maybe it's more important in the amateur sport that is GAH but can't see why. judge him at the end of the league is my suggestion and starting from a position that promotion expectations were wildly optimistic based on what the Lexus and Beemer driving bookies were and are offering by way of odds..
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on February 17, 2012, 09:31:58 AM
Quote from: anglocelt39 on February 16, 2012, 10:30:15 PM
As Richie says his after match interviews are rambling waffle. Muttering that we are improving, not sure when the next game is. If I were a player watching some of that I be wondering what sort of a clown was over us. A manager should be clear, confident and concise and at least sound like he has a plan.


Not so sure I'd use a managers performance in front of the media as much of a basis for judging him. If I did I'd be giving Sir Alex, Signor Trap and King Kenny their marching orders straight away. Maybe it's more important in the amateur sport that is GAH but can't see why. judge him at the end of the league is my suggestion and starting from a position that promotion expectations were wildly optimistic based on what the Lexus and Beemer driving bookies were and are offering by way of odds..

All I'm saying is the signs are not good. Waiting till the end of the league is fine but what do we do then if we are relegated? It will be too late to do anything before the championship won't it. Very hard to know what to do.

There is a 2 page spread on seanie Johnston saga in the celt this week. No one comes out of it looking good buy for me Johnston comes out very badly. (i would say that is what some of ye are thinking but maybe read it first and make your own minds up) 

Edit - just saw its online too
http://www.anglocelt.ie/sport/gaelicfootball/articles/2012/02/15/4009016-seanie-we-hardly-knew-ye--and-now-youre-gone/
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dougal on February 17, 2012, 09:49:47 AM
just after hearing that seanie only has to be a resident in kildare for 183 days (half) of the year.if he was to only live there every friday saturday and sunday he would only have 27 days to make up,which shouldnt be too hard to do when he'll have 3 months holidays.it would mean only 1 commute a week which isnt as unbelievable as being told he lives in kildare full time.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on February 17, 2012, 11:31:34 AM
No one came out of that article well.  It seemed like Fitzpatrick was a bitter man and it was like a "hatchet job" on Johnson.

Hes gone so lets get on with things now.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on February 17, 2012, 11:58:20 AM
Bitter and twisted enough journalism by Anglo Celt standards I'd have thought. Anyway what I found most interesting was the resume of the elite manager (so we are told) K McGeeney. Sure maybe we can pick him up as the new messiah when his time is up in Kildare, which it seems will be sooner, not later


Despite overseeing relegation and his failure to deliver a Leinster title or even gain a championship victory over a blue-blood team like Dublin, Meath, Kerry, Galway or Tyrone in four years, McGeeney has been hailed as a messiah and his team have been regulary mentioned among the top four in the land, even though they're not even in the top flight of the league.
That's way off the mark, as you suspect the man himself knows, and their opening league form - heavy defeats against Tyrone and Monaghan - confirms. The smart money is on McGeeney to be gone from Kildare by season's end, regardless of what the denouement to that season is, and he is absolutely desperate to go out on a high
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on February 17, 2012, 12:19:33 PM
I thought it a fair enough summary of the situation, perhaps someone could point out the inaccuracies in his account and I'll gladly change my mind. It was also interesting to read about all the "injuries", something I brought up here before but didn't have the time or journalistic skills to research. Also, the way he courts the main stream media is also a point I made here before although I can see why the celt could be accused of envy on this matter.  One final point, the writer being a journalist in Cavan is surely better placed than most to write what he believes are the facts?

Andrews may be making bad decisions elsewhere but he was 100% right to get rid of this guy.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on February 17, 2012, 12:41:13 PM
Harsh on Paul Fitzpatrick to call the piece bitter and twisted. He called it as it is lads, an inaccuracy in that Kildare have beaten Meath in the Championship but other than that I think he was equally critical of every character in this twisted saga and I fail to see any vendetta against Johnston underlying the article.

On a related but off topic note, I think he's a fantastic writer. His game analysis in the Celt this year were excellent. Particularly his piece on the U21 Final which I found very memorable.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on February 17, 2012, 12:55:18 PM
According to a poster on hogan stand we played Leitrim last night on the 3G pitch. The team as follows...

Nice to see Fannin get a game - good god, what is going on.

1keith fannin
2Barry watters
3mickey brennan
4darragh tighe
5kevin meehan
6joey jordan
7Robert Maloney
8cullivan
9Sean gaffney ??
10declan meehan
11declan mc keirnan
12mc keever
13c Mc clarey
14R galligan
15M dunne

2:11 to 1:13 to cavan
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Breffni_Yank on February 17, 2012, 01:16:14 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on February 17, 2012, 12:55:18 PM
According to a poster on hogan stand we played Leitrim last night on the 3G pitch. The team as follows...

Nice to see Fannin get a game - good god, what is going on.

1keith fannin
2Barry watters
3mickey brennan
4darragh tighe
5kevin meehan
6joey jordan
7Robert Maloney
8cullivan
9Sean gaffney ??
10declan meehan
11declan mc keirnan
12mc keever
13c Mc clarey
14R galligan
15M dunne

2:11 to 1:13 to cavan

Is that a piss take?

A forward at full back and in goals. Two forwards from Cavan Gaels starting that don't get playing with their club. What must they be thinking?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on February 17, 2012, 01:26:13 PM
Fitzpatrick seems quite unhappy that the lad in question was talking to the Indo, and, it appears also to the Kildare Media and not to the Celt. Then Seanie fell foul of the big bad tabloid Indo and sure isn't that an awful pity, see what happens when you stray from your local media outlet. Seanies famous 10 second phone call was, our local hack can exclusively reveal, ended by Seanie. Why can he confirm that, well he got it from one side and Seanie doesnt't talk to the Celt. Bit like the court case where the murderer was acquitted because he said he was acting  in self defence and there were no other witnesses.

From the very little bit i know of media workings it appears to be getting more and more aggressive and about chasing "the story". I've got no doubt that the journalist in question is getting a fair grilling from his editor to report on this story and the fact that the main party ain't talking to the publication in question will only be accepted as an excuse for so long.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Western Blue on February 17, 2012, 01:28:56 PM
Just wondering could we make convert Mickey Brennan into the Full Back position or Ciaran Galligan?  Dan Gordan was moved back into that position by Wee James McCartan with success.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Breffni_Yank on February 17, 2012, 01:39:38 PM
It's mid season and we play a challenge match with a forward in goals and a forward at full-back and people would still rather talk about Johnston?

At least McKeever got some game time.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Richiej on February 17, 2012, 01:58:14 PM
There should really have been a big panel meeting in october where all players that had worked with Val were sat down face to face. Val could have explained where he was going. If doors were open. Open an Frank discussion. Players would know if hard work would get them back in. Bit of honesty all around for the good of Cavan football. Fcuk this phone call lark. There all adults. Would have saved an awful lot of hassle all around. Because there is confusion about what was said privately between manager and players
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on February 17, 2012, 02:08:19 PM
Quote from: Breffni_Yank on February 17, 2012, 01:39:38 PM
It's mid season and we play a challenge match with a forward in goals and a forward at full-back and people would still rather talk about Johnston?

At least McKeever got some game time.


Not sure Jelly would have filled in the keeper or full back line Yank but you never know. Again glad to see McKeever get a game, thinks one of the FACT merchants on this or the other site had him gone this week as well.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Breffni_Yank on February 17, 2012, 02:17:03 PM
Quote from: anglocelt39 on February 17, 2012, 02:08:19 PM
Quote from: Breffni_Yank on February 17, 2012, 01:39:38 PM
It's mid season and we play a challenge match with a forward in goals and a forward at full-back and people would still rather talk about Johnston?

At least McKeever got some game time.


Not sure Jelly would have filled in the keeper or full back line Yank but you never know. Again glad to see McKeever get a game, thinks one of the FACT merchants on this or the other site had him gone this week as well.

He defo would not AC so I think we should stop talking about him don't you?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on February 17, 2012, 02:56:52 PM
there was a tongue in cheek element to my post there Yank I agree with you and in fairness I think we had managed to avoid the topic for a good while now until the appearance of this mornings article.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Richiej on February 17, 2012, 04:03:22 PM
If Andrews want to play challenge games why don't he arrange them against the Gaels. Kingscourt  and any other club that wants to. At least all the discarded players and anyone else who thought they were good enough would get a chance to show their worth. Plus it would add a bit of interest .
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on February 17, 2012, 04:35:45 PM
Probably afraid they might lose to the gaels!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Richiej on February 17, 2012, 04:47:49 PM
Myles it would sure gee up a bit of interest among players and supporters. Plus maybe we will find out how good the county players really are or how good the discarded players are. That's the way Kilkenny train. All in house challenge games. Fiercely competitive.if a young forward makes the kk team well he has been well tested locally. And that's the way it should be. Nothing like local competition and local rivalry
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Richiej on February 17, 2012, 10:48:50 PM
With reference to my last post. I just want clubs to see through Amdrews. After all 2 years ago Andrews wanted ti be Dublin Chairman. It didn't happen , now he's been back being a manager. There was great banter on twitter 2 days ago with mackey , johnston, nesty, funny stuff. Great banter too with mcclarey, Dunne and Johnston. I don't believe Seanie is a negative influence.it's Andrews making a point. Now Seanie is making a bigger point.. Sheds of Liam Austin Era from what I hear. Cos there more leavin....,Fcuk off Val while u can!!!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on February 17, 2012, 11:29:32 PM
Richie what in the name of God are you on about.. Kildare man Johnston having banter with his ex teammates and that means he's not a negative influence? Muck. Let's call it as it is, Johnston was not liked by his team mates in general. Most don't care that he's gone. He showed no allegiance to his county and left his club high and dry too. At least Mackey had the guts to stay instead of going when he was dropped.

Your abuse of Andrews is a disgrace.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Breffni_Yank on February 17, 2012, 11:37:32 PM
Quote from: Richiej on February 17, 2012, 10:48:50 PM
With reference to my last post. I just want clubs to see through Amdrews. After all 2 years ago Andrews wanted ti be Dublin Chairman. It didn't happen , now he's been back being a manager. There was great banter on twitter 2 days ago with mackey , johnston, nesty, funny stuff. Great banter too with mcclarey, Dunne and Johnston. I don't believe Seanie is a negative influence.it's Andrews making a point. Now Seanie is making a bigger point.. Sheds of Liam Austin Era from what I hear. Cos there more leavin....,Fcuk off Val while u can!!!

Richie I think many of us have started to query what is going on but your ramblings and rants have made it impossible to take you serious. I find it hard to believe that Hyland was involved with the u21s for two years, reached two Ulster Finals and an All-Ireland and then compare it to how poorly the senior side appear to be managed.

You say there are more leaving? Who exactly?

It all just leaves me scratching my head. At least the club starts back this weekend.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on February 18, 2012, 09:30:41 AM
There will definitely be more leaving Richie, mainly because the squad has to be reduced on size before the championship. The whole thing reminds me of roscommon a few years ago, they went totally with youth. We hammered them in Hyde park, mayo trashed them in Connaught. Everyone said they were going for too much youth too soon (me included) and then the next year they win Connaught and gave cork a good run for their money in the 1/4 finals. I could take the short term pain for some success down the road. The question is whether Andrews is good enough to deliver and that's where the big doubt is.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on February 18, 2012, 11:17:36 AM
Saw a piece in the Indo today where Andrews made an approach for Brian Sheridan (joe's brother) at the start of the year.. But he turned it down, he is not involved in the Meath panel but is highly rated, was very good with Dcu a few years ago.. Looks bad tbh as soon as there was talk of Johnston switching to Kildare that Cavan should try and bring in a replacement. Brian Sheridan is eligble to play under the parentage rule, there was no possibility that he would swith with his brother with Meath.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Swadman on February 18, 2012, 11:23:50 AM
Our 1st outing of the year has been called off as Gearoid McKiernan has been selected for the Ulster team today:
Connacht v Ulster, Markievicz Park, Sligo, 2.00pm
Best of luck lad
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on February 18, 2012, 11:28:42 AM
That match is on tomorrow swadman, lacken-castlerahan was called off aswell as Ronan Flanagan was called up late to the panel, alot of players had to pull out through injury.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on February 18, 2012, 11:58:42 AM
10 years as  a reader and sometimes poster on this board folks and a lot of it's been great crack but, like all things it goes through cycles and at the moment is gone a bit to the bad. When it was good it was great and that was mainly due to the fact that there were lads who were close to the action and had a bit of an inside track making this a good spot for genuine info you wouldn't get elsewhere. Unfortunately too many people like myself on here now who are a bit removed from the action and, in fairness to everybody aren't in a position to offer any information that isn't readily available elsewhere. So feckit I'm deleting my account now and am out of here. Will keep reading mind you.

Hope to get back sometime as Anglocelt40.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on February 18, 2012, 12:11:54 PM
Yeah and the sisters, husdands 3rd cousin brother in law was also asked to play.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Breffni_Yank on February 18, 2012, 12:17:27 PM
Quote from: anglocelt39 on February 18, 2012, 11:58:42 AM
10 years as  a reader and sometimes poster on this board folks and a lot of it's been great crack but, like all things it goes through cycles and at the moment is gone a bit to the bad. When it was good it was great and that was mainly due to the fact that there were lads who were close to the action and had a bit of an inside track making this a good spot for genuine info you wouldn't get elsewhere. Unfortunately too many people like myself on here now who are a bit removed from the action and, in fairness to everybody aren't in a position to offer any information that isn't readily available elsewhere. So feckit I'm deleting my account now and am out of here. Will keep reading mind you.

Hope to get back sometime as Anglocelt40.

Feck it, I'm gone too. Over and out Breffni men.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on February 18, 2012, 12:32:57 PM
Well done ti gearoid and Ronan. They should take that as a vote of confidence in their ability and keep the heads up.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Richiej on February 18, 2012, 01:33:52 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on February 18, 2012, 11:17:36 AM
Saw a piece in the Indo today where Andrews made an approach for Brian Sheridan (joe's brother) at the start of the year.. But he turned it down, he is not involved in the Meath panel but is highly rated, was very good with Dcu a few years ago.. Looks bad tbh as soon as there was talk of Johnston switching to Kildare that Cavan should try and bring in a replacement. Brian Sheridan is eligble to play under the parentage rule, there was no possibility that he would swith with his brother with Meath.
.                                                                                                                                                                                                                                     Is Damien Sheridan joe Sheridans dad? If so I thought Damien was born in Meath and played for Cavan under the parentage rule as his father Eammon  (joes grandfather ) was a Cavan man. Eammon I think was  Chairman of the minor board in 74 when Cavan won it. But I think Damien was born in Meath .
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on February 18, 2012, 01:55:34 PM
Quote from: Breffni_Yank on February 18, 2012, 12:17:27 PM
Quote from: anglocelt39 on February 18, 2012, 11:58:42 AM
10 years as  a reader and sometimes poster on this board folks and a lot of it's been great crack but, like all things it goes through cycles and at the moment is gone a bit to the bad. When it was good it was great and that was mainly due to the fact that there were lads who were close to the action and had a bit of an inside track making this a good spot for genuine info you wouldn't get elsewhere. Unfortunately too many people like myself on here now who are a bit removed from the action and, in fairness to everybody aren't in a position to offer any information that isn't readily available elsewhere. So feckit I'm deleting my account now and am out of here. Will keep reading mind you.

Hope to get back sometime as Anglocelt40.

Feck it, I'm gone too. Over and out Breffni men.

Pair of women  :D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: club_man on February 18, 2012, 08:57:43 PM
On a different note fellas, anyone know the rough dates for club championships this year? Assume its around the middle of July? Just to try and sort out holidays.

Cheers

edit: Just found it here if anyone interested.

http://www.hoganstand.com/Cavan/ArticleForm.aspx?ID=160236
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Benny on February 18, 2012, 09:07:29 PM
Damien Sheridan played with the Maghera MacFinns, and was part of the Junior and Intermediate c-ship winning teams in '74 and '75. Not sure exactly where he was born, but was definitely brought up in Maghera.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Benny on February 18, 2012, 09:08:21 PM
Oh, and yes he is Joe and Brian's Dad.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Richiej on February 18, 2012, 09:17:06 PM
Quote from: Benny on February 18, 2012, 09:07:29 PM
Damien Sheridan played with the Maghera MacFinns, and was part of the Junior and Intermediate c-ship winning teams in '74 and '75. Not sure exactly where he was born, but was definitely brought up in Maghera.
.        I think Damien was born in Meath and played for Cavan under the parentage rule. His father was a Cavanman and had a band that time called the supertones!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on February 21, 2012, 04:58:45 PM
From HS.

Cavan GAA Coaching Conference
21 February 2012

Cavan GAA Coaching Conference
"Developing Ideal Players"
Saturday 3rd March 2012

The Cavan GAA Coaching & Games Development Conference will begin with breakfast in Hotel Kilmore at 9am where there will be a key note speech from Val Andrews (Current Senior County Football Team Manager) together with nutritional advice for successful players. The conference will continue with Practical workshops in Kingspan Breffni Park. Please see full details attached.

We urge all clubs to encourage their coaches to attend.

Cost is €15 per delegate and full payment must be received to reserve place. Booking form attached.

Full and updated details can be viewed on the Coaching section of the Cavan GAA website www.cavangaa.ie/Coaching

Closing date for bookings is Friday 2nd March 2012. Places are limited.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Swadman on February 21, 2012, 06:34:00 PM
Cavan GAA Coaching Conference - great idea, hope all clubs support it with at least one person. It will be the only sustainable future for clubs to have their own coaches now that the taxman has his beady eye on the ball of money that has been thrown at "outside" coaches. ::)

PS
I like the new look forum
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Richiej on February 23, 2012, 12:00:19 PM
http://hoganstand.com/Cavan/ArticleForm.aspx?ID=162589

If Johnston plays with the Gaels this year well one of Vals County players isnt even going to make their own club team

                    Smith              Lyng              Murray

                    McClarey         Meehan          Dunne

That was the Gaels forward line last Sunday.. 5 County players and M Lyng
Add Johnston, 1 county lad will make way............whoever it is ...............but at least he still will be on the County Team!

Has anyone evr heard of a situation where a County player couldnt make his own club team?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on February 23, 2012, 03:09:17 PM
Are there many players who are playing Sigerson (I can only thin of Jack Brady with DCU but there are more) and will they come back into the panel?  Are they all U21 and will they be missing until that is over?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on February 23, 2012, 04:20:12 PM
Richie - Seanie was dropped last year for the 1st round of the championship while he was a county player so thats an example I suppose ;)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: heffo on February 23, 2012, 04:28:11 PM
Quote from: Richiej on February 23, 2012, 12:00:19 PM

Has anyone evr heard of a situation where a County player couldnt make his own club team?

Declan Lally - AI winner with Brigids couldn't make their championship winning team this year.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Richiej on February 23, 2012, 05:08:06 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on February 23, 2012, 04:20:12 PM
Richie - Seanie was dropped last year for the 1st round of the championship while he was a county player so thats an example I suppose ;)
That's true myles. Gaels never had an issue dropping or playing a player regardless of status,age , young or old. If your on form you get in .
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Ollie on February 24, 2012, 12:46:04 AM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on February 23, 2012, 04:20:12 PM
Richie - Seanie was dropped last year for the 1st round of the championship while he was a county player so thats an example I suppose ;)

I remember that. It was against Lacken. He played the last 20mins and scored 3-2. Val must of missed that game.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on February 24, 2012, 10:46:40 AM
I heard Johnston had 50e om himself to score 3 goals with another player on the bench before he came on.. Lacken were missing about 8 or 9 that day Ollie so Val missed nothing..
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Ollie on February 24, 2012, 07:27:46 PM
http://www.leinsterleader.ie/sport/gaelic-games/johnston_transfer_request_sent_back_to_cavan_1_3557549

So basicly the CCCC are asking the county Board to make a decision on the matter. Is it not the duty of the CCCC to make judgements in these types of matters? I'm nearly sure Declan Woods said that the county boards involvement in this saga was over after the case was referred to the CCCC. It goes to show how poor the Gaa are when it comes to dealing with a high profile matters.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on February 24, 2012, 10:23:33 PM
Anyone hear anything about G McKiernan getting boot from panel?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanlad on February 24, 2012, 10:49:41 PM
Quote from: tommysmith on February 24, 2012, 10:23:33 PM
Anyone hear anything about G McKiernan getting boot from panel?

no, you sure it's not Nail McKiernan booted,  midfielder from Lacken. Drunk in Silgo RAG week when he should of been at training.

G McKiernan has played a lot football the last 18 months his club going to an All Ireland Final, the Under 21 last year, the senior, college football and now called up to the Ulster squad be it not playing, but he still have to train.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BigMac on February 24, 2012, 10:51:56 PM
I didn't hear that, although I did see the picture of him that's doing the rounds on facebook with his shirt open in a pub or nightclub. The camera has caught him with drunk looking eyes but this could easily be a "mid blink" photo, although having his shirt open doesn't help his argument that he was sober / not hammered.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on February 25, 2012, 09:08:41 AM
Saw that too Bigmac, not a mission the man was sober in that photo. But are the players on a drinking ban even? This was 2 weeks before Cavan's next game and as long as he didn't miss training I doubt there's an issue it's still only February after all.
In fairness to G McKiernan, I've criticised his attitude in the past but last year brought him on a lot, I know from a friend that he took the defeat to Longford very badly. That's what we want, players who don't take defeat as the norm.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Richiej on February 25, 2012, 06:22:39 PM
Lads it's February ther a 3 weeks break in National League. Dropping students for having a few pints is madness. There not professional . I tell you one thing it's the reason a few seasoned Gaels lads won't play county football. No harm
Whatsoever in a few pints here and there. Players today are a lot more disciplined than they were in the 70s and 80s drinkwise .. Give lads a break.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on February 25, 2012, 06:38:57 PM
Anyone know where a body could find today's Minor results??
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on February 25, 2012, 07:18:08 PM
Results

http://cavangaa.ie/news/280/Minor_League_Results.html
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on February 25, 2012, 07:29:59 PM
Quote from: Denn Forever on February 25, 2012, 07:18:08 PM
Results

http://cavangaa.ie/news/280/Minor_League_Results.html

Gentleman....
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: TheThirdManning on March 01, 2012, 09:03:17 PM
According to HS

The third full-back in as many games.

Saturdays team v Sligo

J Reilly D Barkey D Reilly R Flanagan B Waters P O Reilly R Maloney Derham D Givney G McKiernan N Smith M McKeever K Meehan N McDermott E Keating M Dunne
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on March 01, 2012, 09:37:23 PM
The keeper has being dropped by his club for start of league for not training.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on March 01, 2012, 10:04:56 PM
Damian Reilly has been one of the better full backs in club football the last 2 or 3 years but i dunno about playing him there at county level.Hopefully he can do well there as changing the full back every game isn't a good sign. Cavan need somebody to fill the position, lots of players were tried last year. Good to see Mckeever back in the team quality player dunno why the fook he wasn't stating the last 2 games, big step up for Martin Dunne. Barkey or Flanagan will have a hard task on David Kelly, class act.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on March 01, 2012, 11:32:29 PM
Another change at full back... I don't see how we'll come away with a win against Sligo. Something tells me that the morale has wilted dramatically since the end of the McKenna cup and the players are falling back to old ways. We badly badly need a win on Saturday but I just don't see it happening.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on March 02, 2012, 01:40:49 PM
Cavan starts for McKeever and Dunne

http://hoganstand.com/Cavan/ArticleForm.aspx?ID=163155

Mark McKeever and Martin Dunne will both start for Cavan against Sligo.

Gowna clubman McKeever has caught the eye in challenge matches and ACFL games in recent weeks and is rewarded by Val Andrews with his first league start of the year, lining out on the 40.

And Cavan Gaels attacker Dunne impressed during the McKenna Cup and now has a chance to prove he can nail down a regular place in the starting XV.

Cavan (NFL Division Three V Sligo): James Reilly; Damien Barkey, Damien O'Reilly, Ronan Flanagan; Barry Watters, Padraic O'Reilly, Robert Maloney-Derham; David Givney, Gearoid McKiernan; Niall Smith, Mark McKeever, Kevin Meehan; Niall McDermott, Eugene Keating, Martin Dunne.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on March 03, 2012, 08:38:42 PM
First win.

0-14 to 1-08

Phew.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Ollie on March 03, 2012, 09:59:46 PM
It was nice to get a win. We had a great first half. I felt we should have been more ahead going in at half time. The second half was a different story. We were no longer dominant, are intensity levels faded, the passing became a little sloppy and we were taken the wrong options when it came to shooting for scores. We gave away a bad goal and were very lucky not to give away a another one and the end. What bothers me most was when Sligo went down to 14 men we failed to make use of the extra man. It was a another example of Vals more tactical skills.
That be said there was some good performances from Bud Fitzpatrick, Kevin Meehan, Niall Smith and Ronan Flanagan. Hopefully we can build on this win.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on March 03, 2012, 10:46:46 PM
The Sligo half forward Egan was very stupid in the way he got himself sent off. Got booked for a high tackle on Giveny then lucky to not get a second yellow and for a elbow on Mckeever and then got the second for another silly tackle on mckeever i think it was again all inside about 3 minutes. Still about 15 minutes left when that happened, David Kelly didn't start which was a good thing, Though Damian Reilly did quiet well as did Flanagan, Pauric Reilly done fairly well at centre back and Giveny and Mckiernan dominated the Sligo midfield. Forwards made some nice moves, Martin Dunne and Bud Fitzpatrick scored some nice pts. Niall Murray came on near the end for Niall Smith. his first appearance of the year.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Swadman on March 04, 2012, 11:00:35 AM
We have our own "G Mac" now
Cavan earned their first win of the Division 3 Football League campaign as they beat Sligo at Breffni Park.
Martin Dunne and Gearoid McKiernan were among Cavan's star performers as they hit 0-4 and 0-3 respectively.
The sides were level at 0-2 apiece but Cavan hit eight unanswered scores to move 0-10 to 0-3 by half-time.
Colm Magee cut Cavan's lead to three points with 15 minutes left but points from Dunne and McKiernan ensured that Val Andrews' Breffni side held on.
McKiernan and recalled Mark McKeever hit opening points for Cavan before Sligo drew level thanks to Adrian Marron and Mark Brehony scores.
However, Dunne, Kevin Meehan, Brendan Fitzpatrick and Niall Smyth were among the scorers are Cavan hit eight without reply.
Colm Magee ended Sligo's scoring drought before the break but Cavan were still seven up at the interval.
Points from Robert Maloney-Derham and David Givney extended Cavan's lead to nine as something of a rout looked on the cards after the break.
However, Sligo responded by hitting an unanswered 1-4 including Magee's 53rd-minute goal.
Cavan were looking a tad nervous in the closing 10 minutes but late points from Dunne and McKiernan ensured that they held on.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on March 04, 2012, 03:06:04 PM
I was at the game last night. A good win for the lads and most importantly a boost for morale and confidence. I thought Givney was excellent from open play and he and McKiernan dominated for long periods. man of the match for me was Mark McKeever who seemed really fit and hungry - that's how you react to being dropped. Keating went off injured after 5 minutes and Bud fitz came on. He and Dunne tried hard and worked hard and indeed got some nice points but they were also a bit wastefull (especially Dunne) trying shots from silly positions instead of working the ball on. It has to be said this game was won due to a ferocious workrate, especially from our wing forwards Smith and Meehan. It was only when these guys tired that Sligo started making inroads and  I thinK Andrews waited too long to make changes. FB line and half back line were good. Really worried about goals though. Miller totally at fault for the goal when he came off the line with all the acceleration of a massie 35. He then completely fucked up last kick of the game and Sligo could have got the equaliser from it. He did make one good save but it was from a tight angle and I would expect any keeper to save it. We need a plan B in goals. Well done to the team and nice to see a Cavan team work hard for each other and not just for themselves as individuals.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on March 04, 2012, 03:57:00 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on March 04, 2012, 03:06:04 PM
man of the match for me was Mark McKeever who seemed really fit and hungry - that's how you react to being dropped.

+1
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: drici on March 04, 2012, 04:45:37 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iOQOOgLbzjk

Time to sing the song again.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on March 04, 2012, 04:52:56 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on March 04, 2012, 03:06:04 PM
We need a plan B in goals.

We do - Fannin and Mickey Brennan... ::) ::) ::)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Ollie on March 04, 2012, 07:50:27 PM
Quote from: Celt_Man on March 04, 2012, 04:52:56 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on March 04, 2012, 03:06:04 PM
We need a plan B in goals.

We do - Fannin and Mickey Brennan... ::) ::) ::)

I can't understand that. We need Fannin and Brennan pushing for a place outfield in order to keep the younger lads on there toes. James Reilly is a good keeper but is very poor when coming off the line. Surely Alan O'Meara is worth at least a place on the bench.

Just on midfield, Both Mckiernan and Givney worked very hard against Sligo with both kicking good scores and taking some good catches but at no stage were they ever in control of midfield. As I said in a previous post it was disappointing how Cavan didn't make use of the extra man and continued to let Sligo back into the game.

My man of the match was Brendan Fitzpatrick. He was the most influential of our forwards when it came to gaining and using possession.  Dunne kicked some good scores but against the likes of Donegal in the championship I don't think he'll be given as much room as the Sligo forwards gave him. McDermott played reasonably well but would like to see him impose himself on the game a bit more.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on March 04, 2012, 08:10:32 PM
David Givney played well and scored some good scores, but he was very wasteful on a few occasions, kicking the ball from difficult angles when he could have just let into the ff line. Mckeever played well at centre forward don't think he ever played that position with Cavan before as he would be usually on the wing but he used the ball well and showed good composure. Should be another 2 points next week all going well as Tipp were hammered today.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on March 04, 2012, 09:08:05 PM
Who was named as sub keeper in the programme?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cogito on March 04, 2012, 09:34:52 PM
Made the trip down to Breffni on Saturday night for my first game in about a year I would say. Rely on what you boys tell me to keep up to date with the goings on.

Have to be pleased with the result. Was nice to get a first win of the year and get up and running. McKeever was excellent and I thought Barkey and Flanagan were excellent as well. Hopefully we can be patient with the two big fellas midfield and let them develop. There is no doubting their potential.

The goal was a poor one to concede and we really made it difficult for ourselves. Always rated James Reilly very highly but by going from reports he has been responsible for two goals in three games now. More alarmingly is Keith Fannin really the sub goalkeeper now? :o No wonder Reilly is off the boil if he has no genuine competition for a spot.

And by god Niall Smith can run fast! Id say the fella that was marking him was delighted to be subbed!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on March 04, 2012, 10:43:20 PM
Smiths marker was subbed before he was, no less than probably sligos best player of the last few years johnny davey.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on March 05, 2012, 12:00:19 AM
Lads what happened James McEnroe? Looked like one of Cavan's best players last year.

Great to get the win against Sligo. As was alluded to above; I'd be concerned about James Reilly. Truthfully he hasn't impressed in recent times at all, not last year and certainly not this year so far.

On the plus side it's great to see McKeever react so well to being dropped. Good to see Bud making progress too. We need to be beating Tipp and Offaly.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: PhilsJemmysField on March 05, 2012, 04:09:05 PM
Was away for a while there and missed the board. Great to see a wee bit of positive feeling about a win. It is a long hard road to Tipp and would be hard t get out with a win. At least we can travel with a bit of confidence
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on March 05, 2012, 10:35:18 PM
Richie - I think you are being very harsh there on some of the players. Glory Hunting - I don't think so, wasteful at times and maybe young lads took the wrong option but I don't think it was out of greed. Leaderless - Also harsh, they are a young team and I thought mcKeever lead them well from ctr forward. Sligo had great momentum at the time of the sending off and in my opinion it was due to pure tiredness and also to the fact that Sligo are not a bad team and indeed are experienced and have been around the block a good few years. The fact remains Sligo were well bet only for Miller making a mess for the goal and anytime they got close we were able to go up the field and get the score to keep distance at 3 pts, like when Bud Fitz ran half the field will McKiernan on his shoulder when he kicked a nice point. You should also remember the way the players kept the ball at the end to run down the clock, they made a mess of it but they were trying to do the right thing at least with the extra man and time up. My one criticism is that Andrews probably should have put on fresh legs earlier.

Also, Givney and McKiernan did lord midfield for 3/4 of the game. Just because they didn't make 10 clean fielding of the ball doesn't mean I am wrong. The two boys flicked ball onto their half backs and also dominate the area in open play. Sure, every pass was not perfect but both of them gave in some lovely passes considering Sligo were filtering a few extra bodies back.

Tipp did not become a bad team overnight either and will be looking at this game as one they have to win and I think it will be a tough game for us but hopefully we can get another 2 points and see where it brings us.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: whats my name on March 06, 2012, 02:00:04 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cd2qZ6upbSs&feature=g-all&context=G29531ccFAAAAAAAABAA you might of seen the post match interview already but here is the link for those who havent. Val's thinking on the whole situation is a lot done a lot more to do. And i have to agree with him but infairness i think we are heading in the right direction as he said himself we showed a lot of heart it was fairly evident throughout the game with everyone working to regain posession be it our backs our forwards etc id say we turned the ball over in our forward line on at least 5 occasions through hard work an determination one thing i havent seen from a cavan forward line in ages which was great to see so hopefully cavan can build on this work ethic and we can move forward as a team with everyone fighting for each other
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cogito on March 06, 2012, 03:29:35 PM
There definitely was positives to take from Saturday. I was impressed with out tackling and work-rate for the most part and it is clear that we have young lads trying to do the right thing. That is a start I suppose.

Our composure up front was poor but you have the take the positives at the same time and realise we got plenty of ball in dangerous positions. McKeever was brilliant in my opinion and he supplements the likes of Smith and Meehan well. The latter two defintely should have been subbed earlier to freshen things up. Couldn't understand why it was left so long.

Goals/Full back is where we are going to run into trouble in my opinion. I know Tipp have a forward that is a handful and I am worried about us there on Sunday. And from the sounds of things we dont have a whole pile of options.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cogito on March 08, 2012, 12:03:45 PM
Seanie Johnston's proposed transfer to Kildare has been knocked back again by Croke Park's Central Competition's Control Committee (CCCC).

Michael Mooney, chairman of Johnston's home club, Cavan Gaels, said they had received correspondence from Croke Park confirming the decision.

"It's nice for it to come to a conclusion and we can now concentrate on football and get him back in the squad," said Mooney.

"Cavan Gaels always want to see the best players playing for Cavan Gaels and for the county.

"We definitely have no ill feeling, it was never an issue that he didn't want to play with Cavan Gaels, he wanted to play county football and felt that he wasn't wanted by Cavan.

"He trained with us recently and he was very welcome."

The saga began on November 24 when it was revealed that Johnston, omitted from Val Andrews' panel for this season, met withKildare manager Kieran McGeeney with a view to switching to the Lilywhites.

In December, Johnston applied to the CCCC requesting permission to play for Kildare without leaving his home club but that request was refused.

On January 12, he appeared before the Central Appeals Committee to appeal this decision but his plea fell through.

Later that week, he broke his silence on the matter explaining that he lived in Straffan, Kildare, though he was employed in Cavan town, 82 miles away.

Subsequently, Cavan GAA chiefs objected to the transfer due to doubts over the player's permanent residency in Kildare. Johnston then appeared before the CCCC who quashed his bid.

It remains to be seen if Johnston will challenge the decision.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on March 08, 2012, 12:11:45 PM
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Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on March 08, 2012, 05:01:46 PM
I see Evans talking about how the defeat last weekend was the lowest of the low for Tipp. They will be very dangerous this weekend in Thurles, I would expect a backlash. Let's hope our lads can match them for desire.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: PhilsJemmysField on March 09, 2012, 12:45:20 PM
any word on a team
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on March 10, 2012, 11:01:07 PM
Fintan Reilly?

Maybe he shouldn't have been so hasty but can understand why he withdrew.

No worries about an outfield player playing in goal.

Come on  Cavan.

Cavan (FL v Tipperary) - Keith Fannin; Damien Barkey, Damien Reilly, Ronan Flanagan; Barry Waters, Padraic O'Reilly, Robert Maloney Derham; David Givney, Gearoid McKiernan; Niall Smith, Mark McKeever, Kevin Meehan; Brendan Fitzpatrick, Niall McDermott, Martin Dunne.



Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Richiej on March 11, 2012, 01:00:14 PM
1-3 to 0-3 in favour of Cavan after 7 mins Dunne 1-1
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Richiej on March 11, 2012, 01:04:29 PM
1-5 to 0-4 after 15 mins
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on March 11, 2012, 01:37:11 PM
2-6 to 0-6 at half time. Bud sent off for a second yellow, poor decision by the ref apparently. Brian Jones then got a straight red for a closed fist high tackle. Sounds like Cavan were well on top and then lost their way a bit after the sending off.

Need to push on in the second half and not try to defend our lead.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on March 11, 2012, 02:21:42 PM
Finishes 4-10 to 0-14. Dunne x 2, McKeever and Watters with the goals. Seems we gave away an awful lot of frees. Good to see us rattle in a few goals.

Well done to the players and managment.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cogito on March 11, 2012, 02:30:28 PM
Fair play to the lads. I would say that is the first time we have got back-to-back wins in a while!

Big call having Keith Fannin in goals. Did he have much to do?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on March 11, 2012, 08:27:43 PM
Well done to the team and management. Scoring 4-10 is also very encouraging as it shows we do have a spread of decent forwards and banging in a few goals is also a good sign. I believe fannin was solid in goals. Onward and upward!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on March 12, 2012, 08:59:31 AM
Very comprehensive report on the game from dachubba on HS.

Was at match today, first in a long time. It was always going to be a Cavan win. Tipp were not there to compete at all. The four goals were excellent and well deserved. But i had a few observations.

Cavan have a very porous defence. Tipp were able to run at them comfortably, when they bothered. I noticed that Cavan do not get back in numbers as quick as most teams, maybe it was the big pitch. But they seemed to rather try to outscore Tipp rather than inhibit. Some sloppy tackling led to some easy frees, and the ref was difficult to understand sometimes. I'm mindful of the top teams in how they inhibit teams and create/take scores in opportunistic situations. while today was not a barometer for Cavan's progression, It is possible that any team with a great free-taker could beat Cavan on their own, as we'll find out in the summer.
Is there not a recognised goalkeeper in the squad? ( Can someone tell me the craic there) but Keith Fannin done very well, so kudos to him. I noticed that the midfield tried to palm the ball to a teammate on the kickout, which is the right thing to do most of the time. Cavan have two good midfielders, might have two great ones if they keep at it.
One major observation today was the impact of Mark Mckeever. He seems to do the right thing all the time, and plays football at a faster pace than some of the other lads. Alot of the good attacking went through him, it is essential that he be available to setup attacks after a turnover, great passer. but there is no-one in the half-backs to setup attacks in my opinion. Although players 5-7 ran through once or twice with the odd score, this should be done on a routine basis.
full back line were never gonna concede a goal, but i'd hate to see a high ball going in there in the future. cavan do not have the firepower to recover from early goals, so a ruthless full-back line should put it up to Murphy and McFadden in the championship, Murphy got a great early goal last weekend (<1 min). Watch out for the early goal come the summer.
As i said, midfielders were good. Givney has a great catch and McKiernan too. one or two great runs by them both really were excellent to watch. I have great hopes for them.
Number 10 should spend his entire game running at the defence, he was excellent when it happened. either a score or a free will produce if he gets the ball 40 yards from goal. As i said McKeever is the lynchpin. And Kevin Meehan should operate out in midfield at the breakdown, he done it a few times and a pity he doesnt get stuck in there more often, i didnt see enough of it.
We were treated to some absolute crackers today, four super goals. a couple of bad wides, but not uncommon. what worries me is that can Cavan produce 4 goals again? The Dubs seem to score goals all the time (hence All-Ireland Champions), so can we do the same? With the pace of football going to pick up in a few weeks, i hope Cavan can score goals, cos they do not play quick enough. too much running into tackles and no support. They played the width of the pitch sometimes today and it really benefited. our wing forwards and backs really must have their skates on as they could cause problems to any defence, i.e. number 10.

That's my two cents... Anyone else at the game please let me know what ye thought.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BigMac on March 12, 2012, 06:57:43 PM
I don't know what kind of clowns write the articles for the Hoganstand, I know I shouldn't expect much better, but it is almost as bad as the Celt for getting the names wrong! I presume Stephen Jordan wasn't trying to block Martin Dunnes shot on goal, and can anyone clear up who was sent off for Cavan? I'm guessing it wasn't "corner back Brendan Fitzgerald"?
http://www.hoganstand.com/Cavan/ArticleForm.aspx?ID=164008
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Swadman on March 12, 2012, 08:16:10 PM
"Is there not a recognised goalkeeper in the squad? ( Can someone tell me the craic there) but Keith Fannin done very well, so kudos to him."
In reply to Denn F
Heard a rumor today that we had another goalkeeper walkout. It seems no-one wants to be a sub keeper.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on March 12, 2012, 09:20:47 PM
Quote from: BigMac on March 12, 2012, 06:57:43 PM
I don't know what kind of clowns write the articles for the Hoganstand, I know I shouldn't expect much better, but it is almost as bad as the Celt for getting the names wrong! I presume Stephen Jordan wasn't trying to block Martin Dunnes shot on goal, and can anyone clear up who was sent off for Cavan? I'm guessing it wasn't "corner back Brendan Fitzgerald"?
http://www.hoganstand.com/Cavan/ArticleForm.aspx?ID=164008

Bud fitz was sent off but obviously he was corner forward.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on March 18, 2012, 04:04:25 PM
Cavan bet by Offaly. 9-5 up at half time and bet 1-10 to 0-11, Offaly played most of the 2nd half with 14 men. Gearoid McKiernan stretchered off. I am sure there will be some "supporters" happy with the result none the less.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on March 18, 2012, 04:06:15 PM
So much for getting some form going... losing to Offaly at home ffs. Mckiernan out for a few months aswell - big loss.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on March 18, 2012, 04:50:00 PM
I swear to fu**king god i am not going back to a Cavan match with this f**king management in charge.
Cavan in total control 10-7 up,Offaly get one of their corner backs sent off,and Cavan somehow manage to allow Offaly to slice them open at will with runners coming through the middle and channels.
Is there any coaching or gameplan?
Do the management team know what either of those things are?
Niall McNamee when introduced made a big difference,but this is the poorest Offaly team i've seen in my lifetime.


Keith Fannin's kickouts were mostly ok,he does a better job at placing them than Miller.

Damien Barkey played ok,I think he moved onto McNamee near the end.

DJ at full back was solid enough,

Ronan Flanagan played very well and was good in attack and defence.

Barry Watters was ok,he wasn't involved terribly much,

Ciaran Galligan started at Centre Back wearing number 27,he played well outside his shooting which was poor.

Podge was ok,his lack of mobility showed at times in the second half when Offaly started running at us at pace.

David Givney, one of his poorer games for Cavan,didn't contribute nearly enough.

Gearoid as Rodney said,got badly injured in the first half.

Niall Smith,played well,carried the ball well and worked hard.

Mark McKeever, completely at sea, his man John Moloney the number 6 caused us heaps of problems,running forward kicking 0-2 in the first half.
His passing was all over the place.

Kevin Meehan, I don't think wing forward suits him,He played brilliant stuff with the Gaels in the full forward line last year.
The management hasn't managed to get his undoubted talent to show at senior level yet.

Bud Fitzpatrick, kicked a good score,worked hard,even if he did take the wrong option at times.

Niall McDermott, Good first half,but poor second,I don't think hes an option as a target man at full forward and would be better suited towards the corner.

Martin Dunne,Looked lively,like most of the others played well in the first half,,he was crowded out of it in the second half when Offaly took over and Cavan chased the game.

Subs
Sean Mc Cormack, Sean mixed the good with the bad, he looked good at times,but his ball handling let him down on 3 occasions.

Conor McClarey wasn't on long enough to judge.

Niall Murray, same as McClarey.

We played some good football at times,but completely switched off at 10-7 up playing against 14 men.
It is completely bewildering.
This Cavan team has Dissociative identity disorder.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on March 19, 2012, 03:11:30 PM
Cooney stays grounded as Andrews labels display a 'joke'

http://hoganstand.com/Cavan/ArticleForm.aspx?ID=164589

19 March 2012

Offaly's under-pressure football manager Gerry Cooney was keeping his feet firmly on the ground after his side claimed their first win in Division 3 of the Allianz Football League.

The Meath man, who was on the verge of quitting last week, said after the two-point victory over Cavan: "We're not going to get carried away, but the lads answered a lot of questions laid down about their character, but I never doubted them.

"They trained really hard during the past week and that was just the reaction I wanted from the defeat to Wexford."

His opposite number, Val Andrews branded Cavan's performance as a 'joke'.

He said: "That performance was totally unacceptable and left us looking like we had 11 men and not 15. There's no excuses and we just didn't step up to the mark, but the buck stops with me. That was a joke today and we're now going to be under pressure to survive in Division 3.

"I wouldn't blame any Cavan fan for wanting to get rid of me because I'm not blameless in this either."
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on March 19, 2012, 04:30:45 PM
When a manager starts that type of chat it normally means the end is near.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on March 19, 2012, 05:12:30 PM
Andrews looks like a man who knows he's on the edge. Towards the end of the interview however he did appear bullish. Said to put it behind us and believe that we can go to Hyde next week and beat Roscommon to survive in Div 3.

Also I thought the interview uploaded by Declan Woods of an interview with Givney was a bit disrespectul. Basically put it to him that if they are working as hard in training as we hear they are why are they going out and losing to Offaly?? A 22 year old busting his arse training and making big sacrifices with little to no rewards shouldn't have to be pleading with fans to keep coming out and supporting the team. Another win should keep us up. We have 2 games to do that, we've won in Hyde before and we can do it again.

A win for the U21s on Wednesday night would do wonders for the morale in the county after that defeat.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on March 19, 2012, 06:02:32 PM
Are these interviews available to view somewhere?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cogito on March 19, 2012, 06:38:19 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on March 19, 2012, 06:02:32 PM
Are these interviews available to view somewhere?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tyCooMOPHoE&list=UU_dITxUSD5opTnWHtgBCJhg&index=2&feature=plcp
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on March 21, 2012, 12:40:42 PM
Best of luck to our U-21s tonight. There should be no problems with belief within the panel so if the players can better Armaghs work rate then hopefully we can do it.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on March 21, 2012, 01:32:43 PM
In case you don't know (I thought it was at 7.30)

21.03.12 (Wed)Quarter Final

Cavan V Armagh

Time: 8 00 PM , Venue: Kingspan Breffni Pk

Referee: Fergal Cleary

Best of luck lads.


Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dougal on March 21, 2012, 05:50:04 PM
Any team named for tonight yet?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on March 21, 2012, 06:19:55 PM
Cavan Team. C. Gilsenan, J. Morris, K. Brady, J. McLoughlin, D. Sexton, C. Moynagh, M. Brady, P. Leddy, K. Clarke, J. Dillon, B. Reilly, F. Flanagan, P. O' Connor, K. Tierney, J. Brady.

That's the team. Not as strong as I thought it would be somehow. Leddy and Clarke at midfield is worrying, neither exactly a powerhouse to win primary possession. A fairly young team overall. Hopefully they can cause an upset tonight. Best of luck to them.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on March 21, 2012, 09:58:01 PM
Good win tonight.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cogito on March 21, 2012, 10:03:22 PM
If Val and his backroom team appear so clueless then how can Hyland keep churning out wins like this? His record at this level over the last three years is second to none I imagine. Two Ulster Finals, an All-Ireland Final and now a good win over the team that won this Ulster title when they were minors. Please god we can reach another Ulster final now
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on March 21, 2012, 10:09:43 PM
Very well done to the team and management. A really good result against the favourites for the title. Lets hope now they can go on to another Ulster final. Couldn't get to the game unfortunately, can anyone present give a report?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on March 21, 2012, 10:18:56 PM
Myles, you won't be happy as yet again we had an extra man for about 15 minutes and they looked as if they had the extra man.

We looked the better team from the start and it was hard to believe Armagh were favourites.

How old is Joe Dillon?  Is he minor this year?  Pick of the team was Tierney at Full Forward.  Big and strong and could take his points well.

Well done all.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on March 21, 2012, 10:22:00 PM
Quote from: Denn Forever on March 21, 2012, 10:18:56 PM
Myles, you won't be happy as yet again we had an extra man for about 15 minutes and they looked as if they had the extra man.


Cavans extra man played way to deep so it was man on man out the field.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on March 21, 2012, 10:22:57 PM
Quote from: Denn Forever on March 21, 2012, 10:18:56 PM
Myles, you won't be happy as yet again we had an extra man for about 15 minutes and they looked as if they had the extra man.

We looked the better team from the start and it was hard to believe Armagh were favourites.

How old is Joe Dillon?  Is he minor this year?  Pick of the team was Tierney at Full Forward.  Big and strong and could take his points well.

Well done all.

Well I'll give them that for once, since they are a effectively a totally separate team to the seniors. But they should learn from it and make sure they don't allow the other team to dominate again.

How did Packie Leddy do at MF and any sign of Patrick King on the team?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on March 21, 2012, 10:30:02 PM
Paddy King came on. Anyone see what happened Barry Reilly? Derry up next.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Ollie on March 21, 2012, 11:55:48 PM
Good all round team performance. Took their scores very well and kept momentum throughout the entire game. Kevin Tierney was the pick of the Cavan players. Leddy did well as did conway who came on for Barry Reilly. Gunner Brady was lucky to stay on the field after that incident which lead to the Armagh dismissal. They were poor on the night and were lucky only to have the one player sent off.
Cavan will be disappointed with the goal they conceded and also like the Seniors they fail to capitalise when the opposition are a man down. Derry hammered Monaghan so It could be a tight semi-final.     
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on March 22, 2012, 10:16:16 AM
Any idea where the semi is? Hopefully Barry Reilly will be back, i was surprised Paddy King wasn't starting last night, he will probaly be on the team the next day if Barry Reilly is out. Terry Hyland has done a brillant job since he took over the u21's, they should leave as manager for another few years.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on March 22, 2012, 12:16:37 PM
A description of the game from Tony Montana on Hoganstand.

Fantastic result last night. So much for the 6 armagh senior panelists. Cavan played super stuff, opened at a blistering pace and went 6 points to 1 up within about 20 minutes i'd say. Only downside was losing Barry Reilly to a hamstring injury after 5 minutes, who looked like he was well up for the match, sprayed two beautiful 30 yard passes into the full forward line, chris conroy from lavey replaced the captain. First 20 minutes, Cavan were excellent, working hard, winning midfield battle, taking the right option, forwards running directly at their man + either getting by them or drawing the free. Kevin Tierney at 14 was immense all night, he has bulked up & was a serious handful, got some grreat scores off both feet. Armagh did miss 2 or 3 free scoreable frees in this period which could have been crucial, as for the last 10 minutes off the half they got more into the game. Maybe Cavan tired a little bit, plus we made some poor & wayward passes when an easier option was available. Every team gets their purple patch i suppose in a game. But Cavan's defence still stood strong, armagh got a few more scores to bring it back to 6 to 4 at half time. I was slightly worried then that we had lost the momentum. Midlfield seemed to be gone out of it.
Half time arrived, cup of tea + a kit kat later, second half begins. No changes on either side.
Next score was vital and it was the breffni men who delivered it. Hard work + tackling was still as high as ever and this enable the lads to win breaking ball, put armagh under pressure while on the ball. A few wayward shots, but then came the killer blow for the orchard men, having missed a similar chance a few minutes previously, great link up play between joe dillion + tierney + the onrushing conroy who burst through the heart of the favourites defence, kept his feet despite being fouled, drew the keeper and slotted it past him with his wrong foot. Boooom. Cavan 1-8 Armagh 4 points. Too big off a cushion to lose unlike our seniors. Armagh threatened a few times, hitting diagonal long balls in, one or two scares but to be fair the defence had everything well marshalled. Armagh were reduced to 14 players after a bit of a scuffle around midlfield after Cavan won a free kick, straight red for the young Armagh player. Armagh were given a life-line with 10 minutes left when a cross field ball into the defence was hit in, the cavan defence had it all under control, except young sexton got a hand too it, which deflected it away from the Cavan corner back & into the path of Armaghs nr 15 who was lurking in behind Cavans last line of defence, he coolly slotted the ball past the keeper soccer style to give them a glimmer of hope. Both Armagh were not scoring enough of points to trouble Cavan & didn't look like they would get another two goals. Cavan got a few more points & claimed a deserved victory.
Good team, defence were well able to handle the Armagh senior panelist forwards, great work-rate + effort by all players, winning dirty ball, forwards were good, tierney was a real handful. Jack Brady played deeper in 2nd half, got alot of ball but was far from goal, was expecting more of a scoring threat from him after all i heard about him, scored a nice point in the first half though. Roll on Derry in the semi finals. Great buzz, gain some more momentum and who knows, an ulster final could be on the cards again. Well done.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on March 22, 2012, 04:07:42 PM
The Brewster bus continues.

Quote from: Any craic on March 22, 2012, 01:16:31 PM
Cadburys Ulster U-21 Football Semi-finals: Cavan v Derry in Brewster & Down v Tyrone at Casement, both on Wednesday April 4 at 8pm
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on March 25, 2012, 12:24:39 PM
From another thread

Quote from: Donnellys Hollow on March 25, 2012, 12:08:38 PM
Quote from: KfmSport‏@KfmSport

According to reports, #SeanieJohnston has failed to lodge appeal with #DRA thus ending his chances of playing with Kildare in 2012 #gaa

What happens now? 
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on March 25, 2012, 12:59:43 PM
Quote from: Denn Forever on March 25, 2012, 12:24:39 PM
From another thread

Quote from: Donnellys Hollow on March 25, 2012, 12:08:38 PM
Quote from: KfmSport‏@KfmSport

According to reports, #SeanieJohnston has failed to lodge appeal with #DRA thus ending his chances of playing with Kildare in 2012 #gaa

What happens now?

He will pack his bags and move back to Cavan i would imagine, handier for travelling to work.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on March 25, 2012, 02:48:04 PM
Cavan with a blistering start in Hyde. 1-4 to 1 point up after 10 minutes. Ros back into it with 2 more points and getting to grips with the game.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on March 25, 2012, 04:09:50 PM
Lost by 5.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cogito on March 25, 2012, 04:42:35 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IWGr-oK2v3E&feature=youtu.be&a

Just seen this from the u21 game the other night.

I see we got a bad result today. Thankfully Offaly lost. We are lucky they have been so bad this year
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on March 25, 2012, 04:46:34 PM
So if Offaly beat Tipp next week and Antrim beat us we're gone...
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on March 25, 2012, 04:49:00 PM
Quote from: Celt_Man on March 25, 2012, 04:46:34 PM
So if Offaly beat Tipp next week and Antrim beat us we're gone...

It might be no harm to go down.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cogito on March 25, 2012, 05:01:27 PM
Quote from: tommysmith on March 25, 2012, 04:49:00 PM
Quote from: Celt_Man on March 25, 2012, 04:46:34 PM
So if Offaly beat Tipp next week and Antrim beat us we're gone...

It might be no harm to go down.

I find it hard to agree with a statement like that...
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on March 25, 2012, 05:50:23 PM
So it's head to head that counts and not scoring difference is that right? We had this scenario last year, at home needing a result to be sure of staying up. But we have a terrible record against Antrim in recent times.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on March 25, 2012, 08:30:09 PM
Anyone at the game. I am interested to read how it all panned out and am trying to avoid reading the usual "sack the manger", "players are useless" and "bring back Seanie" shite thats been written on hoganstand as I type. We need a point against Antrim to stay up so its in our own hands. For the good of football in the county it is my belief we should stick with these players and try and develop them. We will no doubt have to take some pain for a year or two in order to do that. In my opinion Hyland is the man for the seniors but not yet, maybe next year but I think even the year after next. He is a Cavan man and has a proven track record at underage. Thats the type of background Micky Harte had when he came to the Tyrone management job. Hyland should have the respect of 2/3 very decent u21 teams the year after next. Question is do we stick with Andrews for the end of this season  and the whole of next season. It is very unlikely he will stay at this rate but I think bringing Hyland in too early might not be a good idea.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Richiej on March 25, 2012, 08:51:35 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on March 25, 2012, 08:30:09 PM
Anyone at the game. I am interested to read how it all panned out and am trying to avoid reading the usual "sack the manger", "players are useless" and "bring back Seanie" shite thats been written on hoganstand as I type. We need a point against Antrim to stay up so its in our own hands. For the good of football in the county it is my belief we should stick with these players and try and develop them. We will no doubt have to take some pain for a year or two in order to do that. In my opinion Hyland is the man for the seniors but not yet, maybe next year but I think even the year after next. He is a Cavan man and has a proven track record at underage. Thats the type of background Micky Harte had when he came to the Tyrone management job. Hyland should have the respect of 2/3 very decent u21 teams the year after next. Question is do we stick with Andrews for the end of this season  and the whole of next season. It is very unlikely he will stay at this rate but I think bringing Hyland in too early might not be a good idea.

hyland has been there for 4 years so surely he has had an imput into tactics,team selection, substitutions.If he didnt agree with what Andrews was doing why did he not resign?

yes your right these players need to be allowed and helped develope............but by Andrews??..You really are having a laugh.. he is completely clueless... and he has proved that
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cogito on March 25, 2012, 09:06:43 PM
Quote from: Richiej on March 25, 2012, 08:51:35 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on March 25, 2012, 08:30:09 PM
Anyone at the game. I am interested to read how it all panned out and am trying to avoid reading the usual "sack the manger", "players are useless" and "bring back Seanie" shite thats been written on hoganstand as I type. We need a point against Antrim to stay up so its in our own hands. For the good of football in the county it is my belief we should stick with these players and try and develop them. We will no doubt have to take some pain for a year or two in order to do that. In my opinion Hyland is the man for the seniors but not yet, maybe next year but I think even the year after next. He is a Cavan man and has a proven track record at underage. Thats the type of background Micky Harte had when he came to the Tyrone management job. Hyland should have the respect of 2/3 very decent u21 teams the year after next. Question is do we stick with Andrews for the end of this season  and the whole of next season. It is very unlikely he will stay at this rate but I think bringing Hyland in too early might not be a good idea.

hyland has been there for 4 years so surely he has had an imput into tactics,team selection, substitutions.If he didnt agree with what Andrews was doing why did he not resign?

yes your right these players need to be allowed and helped develope............but by Andrews??..You really are having a laugh.. he is completely clueless... and he has proved that

Didn't Hyland step down from co-manager to a selector? I think that states clearly where his priority lies at the minute. I like how he refers to creating a conveyor belt with the u21 teams in his interviews. It makes you feel like he is working towards something rather than just taking it one game at a time and hoping for the best.

The fact is that as a stand alone manager with a backroom team he chose to put together Hyland has brought us to two Ulster u21 finals in a row and an All Ireland final. Please god they can beat Derry in two weeks and make it three in a row. I think Hylands u21 record reads Played 9, Won 7 Lost 2. I think he deserves more credit than you give him Richie.

Can anyone tell me the full senior management team and the full u21 management team? I presume the overlap ends with Hyland.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Richiej on March 25, 2012, 09:24:16 PM
Quote from: cogito on March 25, 2012, 09:06:43 PM
Quote from: Richiej on March 25, 2012, 08:51:35 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on March 25, 2012, 08:30:09 PM
Anyone at the game. I am interested to read how it all panned out and am trying to avoid reading the usual "sack the manger", "players are useless" and "bring back Seanie" shite thats been written on hoganstand as I type. We need a point against Antrim to stay up so its in our own hands. For the good of football in the county it is my belief we should stick with these players and try and develop them. We will no doubt have to take some pain for a year or two in order to do that. In my opinion Hyland is the man for the seniors but not yet, maybe next year but I think even the year after next. He is a Cavan man and has a proven track record at underage. Thats the type of background Micky Harte had when he came to the Tyrone management job. Hyland should have the respect of 2/3 very decent u21 teams the year after next. Question is do we stick with Andrews for the end of this season  and the whole of next season. It is very unlikely he will stay at this rate but I think bringing Hyland in too early might not be a good idea.

hyland has been there for 4 years so surely he has had an imput into tactics,team selection, substitutions.If he didnt agree with what Andrews was doing why did he not resign?

yes your right these players need to be allowed and helped develope............but by Andrews??..You really are having a laugh.. he is completely clueless... and he has proved that

Didn't Hyland step down from co-manager to a selector? I think that states clearly where his priority lies at the minute. I like how he refers to creating a conveyor belt with the u21 teams in his interviews. It makes you feel like he is working towards something rather than just taking it one game at a time and hoping for the best.

The fact is that as a stand alone manager with a backroom team he chose to put together Hyland has brought us to two Ulster u21 finals in a row and an All Ireland final. Please god they can beat Derry in two weeks and make it three in a row. I think Hylands u21 record reads Played 9, Won 7 Lost 2. I think he deserves more credit than you give him Richie.

Can anyone tell me the full senior management team and the full u21 management team? I presume the overlap ends with Hyland.


Hyland has to be commended on his u21 achievements this past 3 years. But he has added absolutely nothing to the Senior set up. He has to take a certain about of the blame as he has a voice and if he dont like whats happening speak up.What actually is his imput in training? does he specialise in working with the defenders? or forwards? Or is he that selfish to stand by and let Val make a rod for his own back in the hope he will get the Senior job himself??
Anyway its all make it up as you go along management that is plain to see from team selections and team substitutions
This clown Andrews is on the verge of bringing Cavan football to its knees and there still posters here willing to back him without ONE SHRED OF IMPROVEMENT IN 2 YEARS...WHY???
Because Andrews has convinced the CB that this is a long process
I just wish he was chairman of the Dublin CB....because he is bound to be good at something.... Because he is no team manager
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on March 25, 2012, 09:43:31 PM
It genuinely astounds me that people believe there is a quick fix and that if Cavan aren't challenging it's solely and completely the managers fault.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BigMac on March 25, 2012, 09:51:39 PM
Westside, I don't think any genuine supporters or followers of Cavan football think there is a quick fix solution or that it is all the managers fault. Spoofers / gobsh!tes like Richie J talking nonsense might think that (or let on thats what they think - probable WUMs), but anyone with a brain in their head know the problem is about 10 years old, not all Vals /managements fault.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on March 25, 2012, 09:58:44 PM
Look Richie, Its time someone pulled you up on this total bullshit you are writing on here. You seem to have a free reign to say what you want on HS. First off, were you at the game today or not? You live in the UK, do you fly home every weekend for the match. If you weren''t at the game then you know nothing about the tactics or lack of them except what someone told you. For all we know that someone could have the same vendetta that you have. The fact is you are primarily against Andrews because he had the balls to tell Seanie Johnston to piss off and take his rotten attitude with him. You've been constantly attacking him after every defeat, as if he should just take this young team from nothing to beating everyone.

Not happy with attacking Andrews you now have a go at Hyland for "added absolutely nothing to the Senior set up". How do you know that Richie, did Seanie tell you? Again, you are against Hyland because he too was part of the set-up that booted out Johnston. This man has had Cavan in the last 2 U21 finals and has a super record as a manager.

We are a team that has done nothing, absolutely nothing, in the championship for years. You would have us believe that the same players that were involved in winning nothing are now some sort of inspired leaders with sage like knowledge of football who will guide the young players. Total rubbish and everyone knows it. If there are better defenders in Cavan, that are willing to train, for Cavan, perhaps you could tell me who they are?? Perhaps you could name a star studded 15 that will win division 3 next year? 

Finally, you want Joe Kiernan to manage us (have you a spare 100k- thats what Galway gave him with tremendous results). Martin McHugh - of course, he hasn't managed a team in 12 years but he knows it all and no doubt he'd love to manage a team that would play against his own son in the 1st round of the championship.

It is a long process Richie, its the politics of quick fixes that got us where we are today. Putting up with bad attitudes, bad trainers and lads that don't give enough to the cause. We played a Roscommon team today that did exactly what we are doing a couple of years ago, I remember them getting tanked by Mayo in the championship. They stuck at it and now they are a decent team with a connacht title to their name.

I'm no fan of Andrews but I give him this, the young lads are busting a gut on the field and are doing there best which is more then Seanie Johnston ever did in a blue jersey.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on March 25, 2012, 09:59:44 PM
Quote from: BigMac on March 25, 2012, 09:51:39 PM
Westside, I don't think any genuine supporters or followers of Cavan football think there is a quick fix solution or that it is all the managers fault. Spoofers / gobsh!tes like Richie J talking nonsense might think that (or let on thats what they think - probable WUMs), but anyone with a brain in their head know the problem is about 10 years old, not all Vals /managements fault.

Well said Bigmac.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Richiej on March 25, 2012, 10:20:10 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on March 25, 2012, 09:58:44 PM
Look Richie, Its time someone pulled you up on this total bullshit you are writing on here. You seem to have a free reign to say what you want on HS. First off, were you at the game today or not? You live in the UK, do you fly home every weekend for the match. If you weren''t at the game then you know nothing about the tactics or lack of them except what someone told you. For all we know that someone could have the same vendetta that you have. The fact is you are primarily against Andrews because he had the balls to tell Seanie Johnston to piss off and take his rotten attitude with him. You've been constantly attacking him after every defeat, as if he should just take this young team from nothing to beating everyone.

Not happy with attacking Andrews you now have a go at Hyland for "added absolutely nothing to the Senior set up". How do you know that Richie, did Seanie tell you? Again, you are against Hyland because he too was part of the set-up that booted out Johnston. This man has had Cavan in the last 2 U21 finals and has a super record as a manager.

We are a team that has done nothing, absolutely nothing, in the championship for years. You would have us believe that the same players that were involved in winning nothing are now some sort of inspired leaders with sage like knowledge of football who will guide the young players. Total rubbish and everyone knows it. If there are better defenders in Cavan, that are willing to train, for Cavan, perhaps you could tell me who they are?? Perhaps you could name a star studded 15 that will win division 3 next year? 

Finally, you want Joe Kiernan to manage us (have you a spare 100k- thats what Galway gave him with tremendous results). Martin McHugh - of course, he hasn't managed a team in 12 years but he knows it all and no doubt he'd love to manage a team that would play against his own son in the 1st round of the championship.

It is a long process Richie, its the politics of quick fixes that got us where we are today. Putting up with bad attitudes, bad trainers and lads that don't give enough to the cause. We played a Roscommon team today that did exactly what we are doing a couple of years ago, I remember them getting tanked by Mayo in the championship. They stuck at it and now they are a decent team with a connacht title to their name.

I'm no fan of Andrews but I give him this, the young lads are busting a gut on the field and are doing there best which is more then Seanie Johnston ever did in a blue jersey.

Ive seen 2 national league games and a mckenna cup game so am entitled to coment , just like you are. if you dont like dont read. its a discussion board is it not? or do we all just agree with your opinion.. You hate and slag off hoganstand but your always looking there ..
dont read my posts because ive no intention of reading or commenting on yours
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on March 25, 2012, 10:25:42 PM
Well richie - your refusal, yet again, to address any points in my post speaks volumes.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Richiej on March 25, 2012, 10:37:40 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on March 25, 2012, 10:25:42 PM
Well richie - your refusal, yet again, to address any points in my post speaks volumes.


Myles we have a crop of young committed raw talent who need direction, developement, need to be used correctly, confidence built up slowly..

We have a manager who demanded time, got it,
Manager who almost played his championship team in the mckenna cup this year
Manager who went for promotion from the word go.
Manager who made excuse after excuse after every single game this year in his post match interviews.
A manager who has shown absolutely no improvement in 15 competitive games since taking over winning 5 of these games despite Donegal being the only team of any kind of decent quality in that 15 games.
Im not questioning the talent or the commitment in the county, im questioning the way Andrews is wasting it and the way we are happy to let him waste it.
Thats my main gripe
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on March 25, 2012, 10:45:59 PM
You have still ignored the majority of my post.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: whats my name on March 25, 2012, 11:33:37 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on March 25, 2012, 09:58:44 PM
Look Richie, Its time someone pulled you up on this total bullshit you are writing on here. You seem to have a free reign to say what you want on HS. First off, were you at the game today or not? You live in the UK, do you fly home every weekend for the match. If you weren't at the game then you know nothing about the tactics or lack of them except what someone told you. For all we know that someone could have the same vendetta that you have. The fact is you are primarily against Andrews because he had the balls to tell Seanie Johnston to piss off and take his rotten attitude with him. You've been constantly attacking him after every defeat, as if he should just take this young team from nothing to beating everyone.

Not happy with attacking Andrews you now have a go at Hyland for "added absolutely nothing to the Senior set up". How do you know that Richie, did Seanie tell you? Again, you are against Hyland because he too was part of the set-up that booted out Johnston. This man has had Cavan in the last 2 U21 finals and has a super record as a manager.

We are a team that has done nothing, absolutely nothing, in the championship for years. You would have us believe that the same players that were involved in winning nothing are now some sort of inspired leaders with sage like knowledge of football who will guide the young players. Total rubbish and everyone knows it. If there are better defenders in Cavan, that are willing to train, for Cavan, perhaps you could tell me who they are?? Perhaps you could name a star studded 15 that will win division 3 next year? 

Finally, you want Joe Kiernan to manage us (have you a spare 100k- thats what Galway gave him with tremendous results). Martin McHugh - of course, he hasn't managed a team in 12 years but he knows it all and no doubt he'd love to manage a team that would play against his own son in the 1st round of the championship.

It is a long process Richie, its the politics of quick fixes that got us where we are today. Putting up with bad attitudes, bad trainers and lads that don't give enough to the cause. We played a Roscommon team today that did exactly what we are doing a couple of years ago, I remember them getting tanked by Mayo in the championship. They stuck at it and now they are a decent team with a connacht title to their name.

I'm no fan of Andrews but I give him this, the young lads are busting a gut on the field and are doing there best which is more then Seanie Johnston ever did in a blue jersey.
well said myles im sick of going on hoganstand and gaa board looking at the same drivel being talked by Richie he's like a broken record and a bad one at that. There is no quick fix solution to cavans problems these lads need time to develop and bond as a unit you cant expect them to be world beaters over night they are putting in a huge effort this year and hopefully this effort will pay off in the next few years as i believe we have the makings of a good team if we can keep them at it. I know a good few players on the county panel and i can tell you they are putting in a huge effort this year training 3 times a week with games at the weekend as-well as gym sessions in the morning inbetween these sessions their dedication this year has to be commended as a lot of these lads in the past were only going through the motions doing just enough to get by and no more so hopefully with this change of attitude we will see the benefits but it will take time.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Richiej on March 25, 2012, 11:37:13 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on March 25, 2012, 10:45:59 PM
You have still ignored the majority of my post.
.          Yes I have because all you want to do is nit pick about Seanie Johnston.. I hope he never plays for Andrews again.. And if you hang on a few weeks you will see another Gaels lad ready to pull out because he is totaly fed up with what's going on .. If you read back on (seeing you are so fond of it) to when Andrews was appointed you will see where I was totally against the idea. Mr chairman Tom Reilly had a bee in his bonnet about getting Andrews appointed quickly he didn't even interview anyone else.. Now it's all backfiring like it always was going to.. This is the 2nd year in a row we fighting relegation. And yes we need someone like Joe kiernan in for the rest of this year to keep these young lads interested. Because intrest can wane very quickly with a clown like Andrews at the helm.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Richiej on March 25, 2012, 11:45:07 PM
If ye don't like hoganstand why do ye go on it for a nosey??? Or do you not like anyone coming on here having an opinion that might be different to any of yours?? We have for the first time in years have a commited raw bunch of potentially talented footballers.. We all agree on that... But letting Val andrews get his hands on them is not the way forward.. That's my point. Now I'm off.. Ye lads keep your little click of a message board to yourselfs where ye all agree with each other and clap each other on the back when Cavan win 2 games in a row.. Bye bye!!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on March 26, 2012, 12:06:56 AM
Well thank God Richie is gone, let's hope he stays away from message boards everywhere and keeps his deluded nasty opinions to himself.

This notion of quick sack Andrews and get in Kiernan/McGrath/McHugh etc is a load of muck. That is not what Cavan are trying to do, Andrews natural successor is Hyland. Hyland's successor to the U21s is McCabe. We are trying to build a conveyor belt in terms of players and management, not reaching out for 'high profile' big money guys. Andrews was the man to come in initially and consolidate, build a base on which we could build. Get the camp right in terms of personnel and work ethic and perhaps make a charge for Div 2.

What annoys me most about this is that Andrews is a genuinely decent guy, he is not managing Cavan for the money or the status. He deserves better from supporters than the likes of Richie badmouthing him constantly. If he moves on and Cavan make strides he might well be forgotten for making brave decisions for the betterment of Cavan football.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Ollie on March 26, 2012, 12:27:38 AM
In my opinion it doesn't matter who's managing the team the bottom line is that we're a weak footballing county with an average bunch of players. We've won nothing in 15 years and since then we've played in the lower ends of the the national leagues for the majority of that time. Every manager since McHugh has been deemed poor by the supporters. I think its fair to say that the problems that we have aren't solely confined to who is managing the team.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cogito on March 26, 2012, 12:45:26 AM
Quote from: Westside on March 26, 2012, 12:06:56 AM
Well thank God Richie is gone, let's hope he stays away from message boards everywhere and keeps his deluded nasty opinions to himself.

This notion of quick sack Andrews and get in Kiernan/McGrath/McHugh etc is a load of muck. That is not what Cavan are trying to do, Andrews natural successor is Hyland. Hyland's successor to the U21s is McCabe. We are trying to build a conveyor belt in terms of players and management, not reaching out for 'high profile' big money guys. Andrews was the man to come in initially and consolidate, build a base on which we could build. Get the camp right in terms of personnel and work ethic and perhaps make a charge for Div 2.

What annoys me most about this is that Andrews is a genuinely decent guy, he is not managing Cavan for the money or the status. He deserves better from supporters than the likes of Richie badmouthing him constantly. If he moves on and Cavan make strides he might well be forgotten for making brave decisions for the betterment of Cavan football.

I would be very happy to see that when the time is right. As if Kernan, McGrath or McHugh would touch our senior team.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on March 26, 2012, 11:10:35 AM
Sorry to see Richiej go.  Agree or disagree, it was a different opinion.  And if you don't want to read his posts just skip past them or use the Ignore function.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: PhilsJemmysField on March 26, 2012, 11:20:54 AM
Any word/sign/clue of Club football starting up again. Clubs must be going out of their tiny minds trying to keep lads interested with Challenge games. Probably the weather is too good anyway !!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on March 26, 2012, 11:28:47 AM
U21 game moved to Wednesday night according to twitter.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dougal on March 26, 2012, 12:54:45 PM
Quote from: Westside on March 26, 2012, 11:28:47 AM
U21 game moved to Wednesday night according to twitter.

as in the 28th rather than the 4th.still in brewster?still a double header?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on March 26, 2012, 01:11:54 PM
Well according to Twitter yes it's Wed the 28th in Brewster at 8pm. It's not a double header, the Down v Tyrone game is in casement.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on March 26, 2012, 06:33:20 PM
Quote from: Denn Forever on March 26, 2012, 11:10:35 AM
Sorry to see Richiej go.  Agree or disagree, it was a different opinion.  And if you don't want to read his posts just skip past them or use the Ignore function.

Richie didnt want to answer any hard questions. If you have an opinion back it up with some fact. We all also have the right to pull other posters up when we believe they talk rubbish. Its just like its richies right to run away when its put up to him, bit like his hero.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Ollie on March 26, 2012, 07:11:16 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on March 26, 2012, 06:33:20 PM
Quote from: Denn Forever on March 26, 2012, 11:10:35 AM
Sorry to see Richiej go.  Agree or disagree, it was a different opinion.  And if you don't want to read his posts just skip past them or use the Ignore function.

Richie didnt want to answer any hard questions. If you have an opinion back it up with some fact. We all also have the right to pull other posters up when we believe they talk rubbish. Its just like its richies right to run away when its put up to him, bit like his hero.

Thats a bit harsh on Ritchie. The man is just voicing his opinion like everyone else. Who did he say his hero was?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on March 26, 2012, 08:51:05 PM
QuoteRichie didnt want to answer any hard questions. If you have an opinion back it up with some fact. We all also have the right to pull other posters up when we believe they talk rubbish.

Fair enough but just refute what you think is rubbish then move on and ignore.  I just found it a bit distasteful the glee some posters expressed when he said he was going. 

On the other forums, there are posters who I would not agree with (Glens Abu, MGHU, Tyrones Own) or other people would not agree with (EG, Ulick, Tyrones Own, Dixie) but it is good to know what other people are thinking.

Any word/confirmation that the U21 game is on next Wednesday?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on March 26, 2012, 08:52:59 PM
It's short notice changing the U'21 game to this wednesday but hopefully they can do the business. Barry Reilly will be a big loss if he is ruled out. 4 or 5 of the u21's would make an improvement on the senior team.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on March 26, 2012, 09:06:19 PM
Its still down as 4th april on ulster gaa website. Has anyone seen anything official to say otherwise
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on March 26, 2012, 11:00:21 PM
The Cadbury GAA Facebook and Twitter had the game down for this Wed but it is now changed back to the 4th of April.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on March 26, 2012, 11:05:58 PM
Good, that means i can go :)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Ollie on March 28, 2012, 01:14:41 AM
Here's hoping for a very slow recovery...

http://www.joe.ie/gaa/gaa-news/bad-news-for-donegal-as-key-man-in-one-man-attack-goes-under-the-knife-0022734-1
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Never beat the deeler on March 28, 2012, 02:15:29 AM
Quote from: Ollie on March 28, 2012, 01:14:41 AM
Here's hoping for a very slow recovery...

http://www.joe.ie/gaa/gaa-news/bad-news-for-donegal-as-key-man-in-one-man-attack-goes-under-the-knife-0022734-1

That's poor form. He's an amateur player that suffered an injury ffs. I'm hoping it was tongue in cheek, but distasteful all the same.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on March 28, 2012, 02:53:05 AM
Quote from: Denn Forever on March 26, 2012, 08:51:05 PM
Fair enough but just refute what you think is rubbish then move on and ignore.  I just found it a bit distasteful the glee some posters expressed when he said he was going.

I think the glee expressed would be commensurate with the annoyance he fostered. I think he got a fairly fair ride on here most of the time until myles quite rightly took him to task. Yes, it's a message board and everyone can have an opinion and so on, but there's a difference between genuine opinion and melodramatic carping...and repetitive melodramatic carping at that.

And besides it wasn't so much opinion and discussion from Richiej, more a one-eyed, frantic and quite bitter vendetta that left a bad taste. It's hard on the eyes to read the same thing over and over again from a person unable to consider or assimilate anyone else's opinion and who keeps banging on and on with the same tired tune. No message board benefits from that and at the end of the day we're here to debate with each other, not to grandstand at each other.

If Val Andrews made one mistake this year then it was commenting on messageboard posters, because at a stroke he recognised the existence of and therefore legitimised and gave increased licence to every loony within a 200 mile radius to jump up and down hysterically on the subject of Cavan football. That's NOT a barb at Richiej in particular by the way, it's more a comment on the general tenor of discussion on another board that this thread prompted me to check out again.

This message board has always been a little bit different and more considered than that and long may it continue.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on March 28, 2012, 09:57:08 AM
Quote from: Never beat the deeler on March 28, 2012, 02:15:29 AM
Quote from: Ollie on March 28, 2012, 01:14:41 AM
Here's hoping for a very slow recovery...

http://www.joe.ie/gaa/gaa-news/bad-news-for-donegal-as-key-man-in-one-man-attack-goes-under-the-knife-0022734-1

That's poor form. He's an amateur player that suffered an injury ffs. I'm hoping it was tongue in cheek, but distasteful all the same.

Well said. 
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: whats my name on March 28, 2012, 01:25:38 PM
its only against cavan after all at the end of the article nice to know we strike fear amongst other ulster counties  ;)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Ollie on March 28, 2012, 03:00:15 PM
Quote from: Denn Forever on March 28, 2012, 09:57:08 AM
Quote from: Never beat the deeler on March 28, 2012, 02:15:29 AM
Quote from: Ollie on March 28, 2012, 01:14:41 AM
Here's hoping for a very slow recovery...

http://www.joe.ie/gaa/gaa-news/bad-news-for-donegal-as-key-man-in-one-man-attack-goes-under-the-knife-0022734-1

That's poor form. He's an amateur player that suffered an injury ffs. I'm hoping it was tongue in cheek, but distasteful all the same.

Well said.

You're right lads, Lets hope he's fit and ready for the Cavan game on May 20th. Sure our backline are well fit to contain him.... (Get real Lads, You know what I meant!) 
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on March 28, 2012, 04:18:36 PM
Donegal with or without Murphy are still going to kick the living shit out of us May 20th.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on March 28, 2012, 05:32:53 PM
There was a time when there was a "you never know.." vibe about Cavan Senior team. That has now gone sadly.
The game against Donegal reminds me of the Cork game 2 years ago. I can't picture in my mind a scenario in which we could win that game.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Ollie on March 28, 2012, 10:06:24 PM
Quote from: Westside on March 28, 2012, 05:32:53 PM
There was a time when there was a "you never know.." vibe about Cavan Senior team. That has now gone sadly.
The game against Donegal reminds me of the Cork game 2 years ago. I can't picture in my mind a scenario in which we could win that game.

Realisticly the Antrim game is more important than the Donegal game. Dropping into division four would be the ultimate disaster.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on March 29, 2012, 01:18:05 AM
Out of interest Ollie, why do you think it would be the ultimate disaster?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on March 29, 2012, 11:05:18 AM
I'd agree with Ollie about going down to div4 being the ultimate disaster. Donegal are playing in Div1 and while they have lost a few games they have beaten both Mayo and Cork, teams we wouldn't have a hope of beating. They were also gave Dublin a good a good game last week till it went downhill losing Murphy and 2 late goals. Playing the likes of Kilkenny, Waterford and London would be the ultimate disaster, you wouldn't learn much playing them and then playing in a Ulster Championship match.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Ollie on March 29, 2012, 05:28:53 PM
I agree with everything Rodney said. If Cavan are to make progress we want to be winning 6 outa 7 games in Division 3 and then be able to hold are own in Div 2.. I think the best we can hope for this year would be to beat Antrim, put in a good performance against Donegal and then make it to round 3 of the qualifiers. Its ambitious but not impossible. Its also similar to what Longford did last year and look how well the League has gone for them this year. Div 4 would be a massive setback for Cavan.

   
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on March 29, 2012, 06:04:13 PM
QuoteIts also similar to what Longford did last year and look how well the League has gone for them this year. Div 4 would be a massive setback for Cavan.

So if we go down, lets get to the Div 4 final and try and emulate Longford (never thought I'd say that).  Let's hope it doesn't come to that.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on March 29, 2012, 10:40:09 PM
Quote from: Ollie on March 29, 2012, 05:28:53 PM
I agree with everything Rodney said. If Cavan are to make progress we want to be winning 6 outa 7 games in Division 3 and then be able to hold are own in Div 2.. I think the best we can hope for this year would be to beat Antrim, put in a good performance against Donegal and then make it to round 3 of the qualifiers. Its ambitious but not impossible. Its also similar to what Longford did last year and look how well the League has gone for them this year. Div 4 would be a massive setback for Cavan.

Division 4 did Longford no harm last year they had decent championship run and look where they are sitting now this year.  I cant see how it would be a massive setback.  Roscommon also came out of divison 4 and they are doing well enough.  I dont see how it would be a massive setback when it seems to have done others no harm in there rebuilding. 
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on March 29, 2012, 11:04:10 PM
It's a disaster as there was a strong hope that this year would have been a big improvement on last year but it could look worse if Cavan were to go down. Trying to get promotion but losing two of your home games is a disaster, and if Cavan were to lose for the 3rd time and home and get relegated it would be a massive setback, regardless of how Longford and Rosscommon did last year in div4.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Ollie on March 29, 2012, 11:43:27 PM
Playing in the same division with the likes of London, Kilkenny & Carlow would very much be a move in the wrong direction.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cogito on March 30, 2012, 10:54:08 PM
Seen this on another thread

http://www.kfmradio.com/kfm-podcasting/sport-podcasts.html
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on March 30, 2012, 11:28:50 PM
So Johnston openly admits that this transfer isn't because he's living in Kildare but he chose to formulate a transfer to Kildare when he was dropped from Cavan because he had a few friends from college there and he admires McGeeney... This transfer should NOT go through.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cogito on March 31, 2012, 11:39:02 AM
By Martin Breheny
Saturday March 31 2012
IN early February, a Cavan man who works as a teacher in his home town issued an invitation to a tea party in Straffan, Co Kildare.

Seanie Johnston, probably the most recognisable name in Cavan football for quite some time but deemed surplus to requirements this year, wanted to prove that he was now living in Straffan so as to assist a transfer move which would make him eligible to play for Kildare.

His message to those who queried his domicile claims was simple: "Come down to tea (in Straffan). You're more than welcome."

Had anybody taken up the offer, they would have been entertained at an address in Straffan Gate estate.

The kettle would have been boiled, using electricity or gas provided by Airtricity. Correspondence between Johnston and Airtricity would later figure in the deliberations by the GAA's Central Competitions Control Committee as they considered the player's application for a switch of clubs from Cavan Gaels to St Kevin's in Staplestown, around seven miles from Straffan.

Ultimately, the CCCC rejected Johnston's request for a transfer, explaining that the decision was "primarily on the basis that permanent residence at Straffan Gate had not been established to the satisfaction of the committee."

It ended an intriguing four-month saga which has brought the complex question of transfers back into sharp focus. Indeed, it's likely that this case was behind a motion which Central Council will bring to Congress next Saturday week, proposing that a player must have played in club championships in a given county in the previous or current year in order to be eligible to play at inter-county level with that county.

The Johnston case appears to be over, but the minutiae of how it was shipwrecked on the jagged eligibility rocks are very interesting.

It has now emerged that the CCCC were influenced by criteria other than place of residence when considering Johnston's transfer request. Indeed, even if Johnston had fulfilled certain residency requirements, his transfer might still have been denied on the basis that it ran contrary to the GAA's ethos.

In their written decision, which has been seen by the Irish Independent, CCCC queries were raised about the ethical basis for Johnston's transfer request.

"Concerns were expressed that even had permanent residency been satisfactorily demonstrated, the primary, if not sole, purpose of this residency appeared from the evidence gathered to be to enable the player to play inter-county football with a county to which he could claim no obvious allegiance.

"This, in the opinion of the committee, was in itself, contrary to the Association's ethos as outlined in rule."

There is no specific definition of 'permanent residency' in the GAA's Official Guide, so CCCC used criteria applied "by other establishments and financial institutions, as well as oral evidence".

In Johnston's case, they had a lease agreement for an address in Straffan and correspondence between the player and Airtricity. However, according to the minutes of their meeting, CCCC didn't regard that as sufficient.

"It was noted that a lease is not generally accepted as proof of residency; it was also noted that the email showing new ownership of the gas and electricity supply for the address in question should be considered for what it's worth but that little else of substance had been produced to support the residency claim.

acceptable

"From research, it was pointed out that other items that might have been produced, and are generally acceptable, included bank or financial statements, household insurance policies, vehicle insurance policies, revenue commissioners' documents etc," noted the CCCC findings.

What transpired between the CCCC and senior Kildare officials at the meeting, which was called to discuss the Johnston transfer on March 8, is also very interesting.

Kildare representatives -- county chairman John McMahon and county secretary Kathleen O'Neill -- informed the CCCC that county selector Niall Carew had told them a lease arrangement was in place for Johnston at an address in Straffan and correspondence between the player and Airtricity had also been provided.

Asked why a Cavan man, working locally, would live in Straffan, thus embarking on a 90-minute daily commute to work, McMahon replied that "he (Johnston) has moved to Kildare because he is surplus to requirements in Cavan and wants to continue to play inter-county football".

O'Neill explained that, in her opinion, one of the reasons Johnston moved to Kildare was to continue to work with Julie Davis, strength and conditioning coach to the Kildare team, whom he rated very highly since his days in DCU.

The CCCC asked if there was any relevance to Pat Mangan's involvement in the transfer request as he had delivered the lease (supporting's Johnston's residency in Straffan) to Croke Park.

They were told that Mangan is chairman of Club Kildare and a noted fundraiser on behalf of county teams, particularly the senior footballers.

However, the officers told the CCCC that they didn't know why Mangan was the person who delivered the lease details to Croke Park and explained that he had no involvement in the transfer or in the affairs of the Kildare board.

Nor could they explain why a registered letter sent to Johnston in Straffan had been returned "unknown at this address". However, they pointed out that An Post would usually drop a docket in the letter box if a delivery could not be made.

Asked if they could state categorically that Johnston was permanently resident in Straffan, McMahon replied that he could not but, as far as they knew, the declaration was correct. O'Neill said she had signed the transfer "in good faith" and did not know what additional work could have been carried out to establish Johnston's residency status.

McMahon told the CCCC that Johnston had received no guarantees from the Kildare management regarding a place on the team.

The CCCC ruled that the documentation provided to support Johnston's claims that he was permanently resident in Straffan weren't adequate. However, it's their contention that the application was contrary to the Association's ethos, which requires greater clarification.

Effectively, the committee decided that a player's desire to perform at the highest level ran contrary to the GAA's ethos, even in circumstances where his own county no longer wanted him.

In an interview with the Irish Independent in January, Johnston said that he was resident in Kildare, and since he was no longer required by his native Cavan, he wanted to try his luck elsewhere.

"I'm 27 and I want to continue playing inter-county football. I'm resident in Kildare now and I'm surplus to requirements in Cavan," he said.

"That much was made clear from the 10-second conversation I had with the manager (Val Andrews) last October. I still feel I have lot of contribute at inter-county level. You only have a short time at this level and I'd like to make it count."

As of now, Johnston's inter-county ambitions have stalled, leaving him in a strange limbo where his home county doesn't want him, while Kildare's Lilywhite love must go unrequited.

- Martin Breheny
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on March 31, 2012, 07:46:37 PM
Ah, Seanies girlfriend over in the sindo is really doing her best today for him - good old Martina Breheny.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on April 03, 2012, 01:36:48 PM
Our draw for Senior Championship.  ***k.

Group 2
Denn
Kingscourt Stars
Cavan Gaels
Lavey

Full Draw for everyone else.
http://www.hoganstand.com/Cavan/ArticleForm.aspx?ID=165758
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on April 03, 2012, 07:19:39 PM
Any team news for tomorrow, wouldnt be an incredible thing to make 3 u21 finals in 3 years given all the barren years before. Its going to take a huge effort from the lads as derry look a serious prospect. Anyone have throw in time.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on April 03, 2012, 08:54:43 PM
8 o'clock.

http://cavangaa.ie/Fixtures-&-Results.html
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Student Dissertation on April 04, 2012, 09:44:14 AM
Hi, I'm a final year student in the University of Ulster compiling my dissertation on Sports Nutrition. I'm doing a survey on the GAA.

If you could please just take two minutes to fill out the survey,it would be greatly appreciated.

http://www.surveymonkey.com/s/SC5MD9F

Thanking you in advance of your co-operation.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on April 04, 2012, 09:30:35 PM
Final score..

Cavan 2 08
Derry  1 09.

A lot of cards.  Was it dirty?  It was a good game by all accounts i.e. Michael Tynan who was surprised by the move of Ciaran Brady to midfield.  Was he commentating on the last game?

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on April 04, 2012, 10:31:28 PM
Killian Brady switched with Killian Clarke in the last game too. Seems to be a feature of Hyland's teams, didn't Marc Leddy and Feargal Flanagan line out at Full back and midfield and switch?

Great win for the lads. King made the difference apparently. Tierney is flying.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on April 04, 2012, 11:30:36 PM
Just back from the game. It was a good win and in my opinion Cavan were the better team, probably 5/6 points a better team but we struggled to kill them off. We raced into a 1-2 to 0-1 lead early on, Tierney taking a great pass from Conroy and scoring the goal. However, a mixture of Cavan mistakes and shocking refereeing let Derry back in and we conceded a very bad goal. Denn asked was the game dirty, it was not but the ref was shocking and for some reason any foul (half of them weren't even fouls) was a yellow card yet every Derry foul wasn't. He also spend 60s every booking writing in his little book, slowing up the game. Just brutal. Hope I never see him again.

Anyway, we were 2 pts down at half time. Paddy King came on and made a huge difference, started winning kick-outs & breaking ball. Cavan also started putting the ball in long and early to Tierney which they didn't do quickly enough in the 1st half. We had the game level within a few mins and then it was nip and tuck before King went in at the back post and punched Jack Bradys free to the net. 4 points up, ref added 3 mins put instead played over 5 but Derry couldn't get the goal. Best for Cavan were Tierney who probably scored 1-5, King, Jason McLoughlin was good at corner back and Flanagan linked well.

Derrys No 15 McGuckian was a real handful, a big strong lad and we struggled to keep him quiet. They had one plan, high ball to No 15!

Still, I think there is more in the team and they can give Tyrone a good rattle. Well done on reaching 3 U21 finals in a row.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on April 05, 2012, 02:30:38 AM
Delighted with the result. It's extremely encouraging to see us routinely taking down these counties who used to be our nemeses at underage. It seems we've finally got rid of our inferiority complex and are now breeding footballers with no fear of big name sides. Well done to all involved let's hope we can build further and win the cup now.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on April 05, 2012, 10:39:18 AM
Good comprehensive report on the game by Tony Montana on Hoganstand.
So on a bitterly cold & dry evening the breffni blues were really putting their title on the line against a quality Oak leaf team who had previously blitzed Monaghan. Cavan opened in the first 10 minutes as they had done in the quarter final against Armagh, while maybe not as productive on the score board, that level of intensity + in your face + switching the play + keeping possession at all costs were very apparent for all in attendance to see. There was one or two wayward shots from cavan, and then joe dillion bombed over a peach of a point from out on the right wing from all off 35 yards off his right foot to open the scoring. Derry did not get into cavans 45 in the first 5 minutes. Cavan attacked in waves, tackled, harried & dispossed them at every opportunity. Derry were employing a kind of Donegal tactic, of getting as many men behind the ball when not in possession. This is what kept the scoring low & why cavan had so much possession in the early stages. It was hard to break down & to pick out a pass to the inside forward line. Jack Brady went v close with a fine effort from a tight angle under the stand. The ref who i thought was very picky, blew up micheal brady for two illegal handpasses, which seemed harsh. it took another bit of recycling and handpassing to get cavans 2nd point, again it was from a similar position as the first, from one of the corner backs who drifted up the field on the far right hand side. cavan two to the good up and seemed to be bossing matters. Derry eventually found a way of their own half and started spraying some decent ball into their forwards. They opened their account with a pointed free, but their movement and passing showed that they would be a threat. Cavan were winning alot of ball at midfield and this was setting plenty of attacks. Next was the goal on about 12 minutes, cavan broke quickly, and with only brady & tierney inside, the derry players unable to retreat quick enough, a long ball in (which was meant for brady) somehow found its way to tierney who had just being tying his laces & his marker had lost his whereabouts for a split second & it proved costly, the ball was too high for brady, and fell lovely in to tierneys path on the 21 yard line, he still had alot to do. But with the man oozing confidence he drilled it low past the keeper from 14 yards out. Cavan 1-2 to 2. They seemed to be cruising.
Derry pulled back with another score & were starting to come into it in midfield. Micheal Brady came soloing out of defense after taking a kick out, appeared to be in control, got dispossesed, a long high ball caught one of the cavan defenders, who like the cavan goal, had lost his marker. The derry man was one on one with nobody near him and cooly slotted the ball in the net. Game on. Another point by Derry and now cavan were trailing 1-2 to 1-4. How would they react ? Can the management react ? Midfield had gone out of it. Just before half time moynagh was switched with flanagan & sexton went centre back. Half time arrived. Cavan had it all to do. 
05/04/2012 09:45:08
tony.montana
County: Cavan
Posts: 114

1144094  Two cups of tea & some chocolate later, the teams emerged. Paddy King was on for killian brady in midfield.Cavan started well and pulled two points back to go level through tierney. All square. Back came derry to go two ahead again, one a left footed monster free from the far side. More good work from dillion and a good point on his left from a tight angle & a pointed free from tierney, left it 1-6 a piece. Paddy King began to make a difference, was catching & breaking kickouts & we were picking up the breaks. A few free's were not awarded by the ref to cavan and you could hear their followers groan & shout at these decisions, the blues largely out numbered their counterparts. 15 minutes left, seemed like an eternity. the teams shared a point each again. Then cavan won a free way out on the far side, 40 yards out, jack brady stepped up, he had been quiet again on the score board end of things, but busy in work rate & movement, he hit the the free, was looking good, it was dropping short into the square, paddy king rose highest & fisted it into the corner of the net. Cavan 2-7 to 1-7, place erupted. Square ball ??? Never.. Derry had earlier got a point which i think was wide, yet the umpires looked at each other & up went the white flag, so we'll take this one. A number subs were introduced on both teams. Derry attacked & got a score, cavan replied, still a goal in it. 3 minutes of injury time. Enda O Reilly had a free from the right sideline, kill it everybody screamed, dropped it short, a minute left, derry attacked, got up field quickly, won a free 20 yards out. Could they equalise ? An attempted blazed drop kick went over the bar. Ref blew the whistle & cavan won 2-8 to 1-9 and are back in the Ulster final for the third year in a row. Great team effort yet again. Ref must of booked 20 players, he was a bit picky & never once spoke to a player after a foul, always a booking. But we won't mind, the double is alive & well. Tierney man of the match again i'd say contributing about 1-5. Paddy King swong the game back in our favour though. Lots of heart, never say die & work rate. Somebody or the backroom team involved with this age group are doing something correct, 3 finals in a row, is not easily achieved without having a happy camp etc. Well done lads. Next up Tyrone 


Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: scoopmine on April 06, 2012, 01:34:47 PM
A credit to all involved. Hard work pays off. Hopefully it will give the seniors a boost.
I believe the senior panel is putting the work maybe working to hard that some of the effort is left on the training ground.
The club games being off again is a waste and should be run better.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on April 06, 2012, 02:38:04 PM
Is not just teams who have players involved in the U21 campaign?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: scoopmine on April 06, 2012, 05:22:55 PM
Far as I know but I could be wrong.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on April 07, 2012, 12:59:14 AM
Had to put it up - nearly fell off the chair laughing...  Could anyone be so delusional??

From a gentleman posting on Hoganstand regarding the Cavan v Derry Under 21 game thread..


QuoteTony I Am not knocking you at all I just wish to make a point.
A few years back I wrote for two weeks in the Cavan pot and the Anglo Celts how our Under 21 team were being neglected and that they needed a stand alone manager not the senior manager.
That same year in fairness to Tom Reilly he appointed a stand alone manager we got to an Ulster final and we have won one and we are in another final.
I am thankful that I had the balls to write what I wrote and because of those posts we are achieving something long may it continue.

Now if all it takes is a letter or two, I wonder could he come over to Cootehill, put pen to paper and turn our fortunes around as well!!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on April 07, 2012, 02:11:14 AM
Quote from: Celt_Man on April 07, 2012, 12:59:14 AM
Had to put it up - nearly fell off the chair laughing...  Could anyone be so delusional??

From a gentleman posting on Hoganstand regarding the Cavan v Derry Under 21 game thread..


QuoteTony I Am not knocking you at all I just wish to make a point.
A few years back I wrote for two weeks in the Cavan pot and the Anglo Celts how our Under 21 team were being neglected and that they needed a stand alone manager not the senior manager.
That same year in fairness to Tom Reilly he appointed a stand alone manager we got to an Ulster final and we have won one and we are in another final.
I am thankful that I had the balls to write what I wrote and because of those posts we are achieving something long may it continue.

Now if all it takes is a letter or two, I wonder could he come over to Cootehill, put pen to paper and turn our fortunes around as well!!

Ah now he didn't profess to being a miracle worker......     
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on April 07, 2012, 02:31:52 AM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on April 07, 2012, 02:11:14 AM
Quote from: Celt_Man on April 07, 2012, 12:59:14 AM
Had to put it up - nearly fell off the chair laughing...  Could anyone be so delusional??

From a gentleman posting on Hoganstand regarding the Cavan v Derry Under 21 game thread..


QuoteTony I Am not knocking you at all I just wish to make a point.
A few years back I wrote for two weeks in the Cavan pot and the Anglo Celts how our Under 21 team were being neglected and that they needed a stand alone manager not the senior manager.
That same year in fairness to Tom Reilly he appointed a stand alone manager we got to an Ulster final and we have won one and we are in another final.
I am thankful that I had the balls to write what I wrote and because of those posts we are achieving something long may it continue.

Now if all it takes is a letter or two, I wonder could he come over to Cootehill, put pen to paper and turn our fortunes around as well!!

Ah now he didn't profess to being a miracle worker......   

The Championship draw comes out and then you go & say something like that...
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on April 07, 2012, 08:08:22 AM
Quote from: Celt_Man on April 07, 2012, 12:59:14 AM
Tony I Am not knocking you at all I just wish to make a point.
A few years back I wrote for two weeks in the Cavan pot and the Anglo Celts how our Under 21 team were being neglected and that they needed a stand alone manager not the senior manager.
That same year in fairness to Tom Reilly he appointed a stand alone manager we got to an Ulster final and we have won one and we are in another final.
I am thankful that I had the balls to write what I wrote and because of those posts we are achieving something long may it continue.

That's absolutely hilarious. Val should never have mentioned internet bulletin boards, unfortunately it has made some of the keyboard monkeys believe they're some sort of legitimate pressure group.

Like they're wikileaks, just with suspect grammar and spelling.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4sam on April 07, 2012, 09:03:43 AM
Maybe some of you lads might be interested in this or know someone who would be.

25K Fun Challenge
Castlerahan GAA will host a 25K Fun Challenge and family fun day on Sunday, 6th May 2012 at Fay Park Ballyjamesduff, Co Cavan.

The race element of the day will begin at 12 p.m. sharp with a 5 kilometre run followed by a 20 kilometre cycle.  The start and finish lines for both elements of the challenge will be at Castlerahan GAA's grounds - Fay Park - in Ballyjamesduff.

Entry is open to individuals who wish to compete in both events or a team of two individuals; one to complete the run, the other the cycle. The emphasis on the day is fun and we anticipate that this will be a successful and well-run event which we would hope to make an annual occurrence.

The entry fees are as follows;

    An individual adult competing in both events can do so for €15
    A team of two adults can compete for €20
    An individual juvenile (aged 14 to 18 years) competing in both events can do so for €10
    A team of two juveniles (both aged 14 to 18 years) can compete for €15

There will be prizes for the first finishing male and female adult individuals and adult team. There will also be prizes for the first finishing male and female juvenile individuals and juvenile team.

Showering facilities and refreshments will be provided to all competitors free of charge.

For more info on registration and routes visit: http://www.castlerahan.gaa.ie and follow the links.

Hope to see some of you there on the day.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on April 07, 2012, 11:10:09 AM
Quote from: Celt_Man on April 07, 2012, 02:31:52 AM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on April 07, 2012, 02:11:14 AM
Quote from: Celt_Man on April 07, 2012, 12:59:14 AM
Had to put it up - nearly fell off the chair laughing...  Could anyone be so delusional??

From a gentleman posting on Hoganstand regarding the Cavan v Derry Under 21 game thread..


QuoteTony I Am not knocking you at all I just wish to make a point.
A few years back I wrote for two weeks in the Cavan pot and the Anglo Celts how our Under 21 team were being neglected and that they needed a stand alone manager not the senior manager.
That same year in fairness to Tom Reilly he appointed a stand alone manager we got to an Ulster final and we have won one and we are in another final.
I am thankful that I had the balls to write what I wrote and because of those posts we are achieving something long may it continue.

Now if all it takes is a letter or two, I wonder could he come over to Cootehill, put pen to paper and turn our fortunes around as well!!

Ah now he didn't profess to being a miracle worker......   

The Championship draw comes out and then you go & say something like that...

Ah I think ye are taking him up wrong there, when he says "becasue of those posts" i presume he meant the post of Hyland as manager of the U21's. I don't think he is really trying to say it was because of him it happened. I do note Richie is doing his best to question whether Hyland could have anything to do with it, perhaps it is one of his selectors that is the reason for cavans success. I mean it just doesn't compute that Hyland could be a good manager when you think he had a hand in dropping the greatest ever player ever in Cavan ever.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on April 07, 2012, 02:29:51 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on April 07, 2012, 11:10:09 AM
Quote from: Celt_Man on April 07, 2012, 02:31:52 AM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on April 07, 2012, 02:11:14 AM
Quote from: Celt_Man on April 07, 2012, 12:59:14 AM
Had to put it up - nearly fell off the chair laughing...  Could anyone be so delusional??

From a gentleman posting on Hoganstand regarding the Cavan v Derry Under 21 game thread..


QuoteTony I Am not knocking you at all I just wish to make a point.
A few years back I wrote for two weeks in the Cavan pot and the Anglo Celts how our Under 21 team were being neglected and that they needed a stand alone manager not the senior manager.
That same year in fairness to Tom Reilly he appointed a stand alone manager we got to an Ulster final and we have won one and we are in another final.
I am thankful that I had the balls to write what I wrote and because of those posts we are achieving something long may it continue.

Now if all it takes is a letter or two, I wonder could he come over to Cootehill, put pen to paper and turn our fortunes around as well!!

Ah now he didn't profess to being a miracle worker......   

The Championship draw comes out and then you go & say something like that...

Ah I think ye are taking him up wrong there, when he says "becasue of those posts" i presume he meant the post of Hyland as manager of the U21's. I don't think he is really trying to say it was because of him it happened. I do note Richie is doing his best to question whether Hyland could have anything to do with it, perhaps it is one of his selectors that is the reason for cavans success. I mean it just doesn't compute that Hyland could be a good manager when you think he had a hand in dropping the greatest ever player ever in Cavan ever.

Myles you've become nearly as bad as Ritchie in the anti- Seanie corner.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on April 07, 2012, 03:04:51 PM
Just calling it as I see it Booj. But your right, I'm saying nothing more about that lad. He's not a Cavan player any more and I will concentrate from now on the lads that are. Good to have you back, you were in hibernation for a long time there.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on April 07, 2012, 04:49:44 PM
Quote from: boojangles on April 07, 2012, 02:29:51 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on April 07, 2012, 11:10:09 AM
Quote from: Celt_Man on April 07, 2012, 02:31:52 AM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on April 07, 2012, 02:11:14 AM
Quote from: Celt_Man on April 07, 2012, 12:59:14 AM
Had to put it up - nearly fell off the chair laughing...  Could anyone be so delusional??

From a gentleman posting on Hoganstand regarding the Cavan v Derry Under 21 game thread..


QuoteTony I Am not knocking you at all I just wish to make a point.
A few years back I wrote for two weeks in the Cavan pot and the Anglo Celts how our Under 21 team were being neglected and that they needed a stand alone manager not the senior manager.
That same year in fairness to Tom Reilly he appointed a stand alone manager we got to an Ulster final and we have won one and we are in another final.
I am thankful that I had the balls to write what I wrote and because of those posts we are achieving something long may it continue.

Now if all it takes is a letter or two, I wonder could he come over to Cootehill, put pen to paper and turn our fortunes around as well!!

Ah now he didn't profess to being a miracle worker......   

The Championship draw comes out and then you go & say something like that...

Ah I think ye are taking him up wrong there, when he says "becasue of those posts" i presume he meant the post of Hyland as manager of the U21's. I don't think he is really trying to say it was because of him it happened. I do note Richie is doing his best to question whether Hyland could have anything to do with it, perhaps it is one of his selectors that is the reason for cavans success. I mean it just doesn't compute that Hyland could be a good manager when you think he had a hand in dropping the greatest ever player ever in Cavan ever.

Myles you've become nearly as bad as Ritchie in the anti- Seanie corner.

+1
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on April 07, 2012, 05:38:48 PM
Quote from: Celt_Man on April 07, 2012, 04:49:44 PM
Quote from: boojangles on April 07, 2012, 02:29:51 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on April 07, 2012, 11:10:09 AM
Quote from: Celt_Man on April 07, 2012, 02:31:52 AM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on April 07, 2012, 02:11:14 AM
Quote from: Celt_Man on April 07, 2012, 12:59:14 AM
Had to put it up - nearly fell off the chair laughing...  Could anyone be so delusional??

From a gentleman posting on Hoganstand regarding the Cavan v Derry Under 21 game thread..


QuoteTony I Am not knocking you at all I just wish to make a point.
A few years back I wrote for two weeks in the Cavan pot and the Anglo Celts how our Under 21 team were being neglected and that they needed a stand alone manager not the senior manager.
That same year in fairness to Tom Reilly he appointed a stand alone manager we got to an Ulster final and we have won one and we are in another final.
I am thankful that I had the balls to write what I wrote and because of those posts we are achieving something long may it continue.

Now if all it takes is a letter or two, I wonder could he come over to Cootehill, put pen to paper and turn our fortunes around as well!!

Ah now he didn't profess to being a miracle worker......   

The Championship draw comes out and then you go & say something like that...

Ah I think ye are taking him up wrong there, when he says "becasue of those posts" i presume he meant the post of Hyland as manager of the U21's. I don't think he is really trying to say it was because of him it happened. I do note Richie is doing his best to question whether Hyland could have anything to do with it, perhaps it is one of his selectors that is the reason for cavans success. I mean it just doesn't compute that Hyland could be a good manager when you think he had a hand in dropping the greatest ever player ever in Cavan ever.

Myles you've become nearly as bad as Ritchie in the anti- Seanie corner.

+1

Why dont you tell us your opinion on johnston celt man. I mean our most talented player is transfering to another county and i dont think you've said a thing about it!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on April 07, 2012, 05:49:27 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on April 07, 2012, 05:38:48 PM
Quote from: Celt_Man on April 07, 2012, 04:49:44 PM
Quote from: boojangles on April 07, 2012, 02:29:51 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on April 07, 2012, 11:10:09 AM
Quote from: Celt_Man on April 07, 2012, 02:31:52 AM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on April 07, 2012, 02:11:14 AM
Quote from: Celt_Man on April 07, 2012, 12:59:14 AM
Had to put it up - nearly fell off the chair laughing...  Could anyone be so delusional??

From a gentleman posting on Hoganstand regarding the Cavan v Derry Under 21 game thread..


QuoteTony I Am not knocking you at all I just wish to make a point.
A few years back I wrote for two weeks in the Cavan pot and the Anglo Celts how our Under 21 team were being neglected and that they needed a stand alone manager not the senior manager.
That same year in fairness to Tom Reilly he appointed a stand alone manager we got to an Ulster final and we have won one and we are in another final.
I am thankful that I had the balls to write what I wrote and because of those posts we are achieving something long may it continue.

Now if all it takes is a letter or two, I wonder could he come over to Cootehill, put pen to paper and turn our fortunes around as well!!

Ah now he didn't profess to being a miracle worker......   

The Championship draw comes out and then you go & say something like that...

Ah I think ye are taking him up wrong there, when he says "becasue of those posts" i presume he meant the post of Hyland as manager of the U21's. I don't think he is really trying to say it was because of him it happened. I do note Richie is doing his best to question whether Hyland could have anything to do with it, perhaps it is one of his selectors that is the reason for cavans success. I mean it just doesn't compute that Hyland could be a good manager when you think he had a hand in dropping the greatest ever player ever in Cavan ever.

Myles you've become nearly as bad as Ritchie in the anti- Seanie corner.

+1

Why dont you tell us your opinion on johnston celt man. I mean our most talented player is transfering to another county and i dont think you've said a thing about it!

Na you're grand there Myles... I'm not touching that one
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on April 07, 2012, 10:32:48 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on April 07, 2012, 05:38:48 PM
Quote from: Celt_Man on April 07, 2012, 04:49:44 PM
Quote from: boojangles on April 07, 2012, 02:29:51 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on April 07, 2012, 11:10:09 AM
Quote from: Celt_Man on April 07, 2012, 02:31:52 AM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on April 07, 2012, 02:11:14 AM
Quote from: Celt_Man on April 07, 2012, 12:59:14 AM
Had to put it up - nearly fell off the chair laughing...  Could anyone be so delusional??

From a gentleman posting on Hoganstand regarding the Cavan v Derry Under 21 game thread..


QuoteTony I Am not knocking you at all I just wish to make a point.
A few years back I wrote for two weeks in the Cavan pot and the Anglo Celts how our Under 21 team were being neglected and that they needed a stand alone manager not the senior manager.
That same year in fairness to Tom Reilly he appointed a stand alone manager we got to an Ulster final and we have won one and we are in another final.
I am thankful that I had the balls to write what I wrote and because of those posts we are achieving something long may it continue.

Now if all it takes is a letter or two, I wonder could he come over to Cootehill, put pen to paper and turn our fortunes around as well!!

Ah now he didn't profess to being a miracle worker......   

The Championship draw comes out and then you go & say something like that...

Ah I think ye are taking him up wrong there, when he says "becasue of those posts" i presume he meant the post of Hyland as manager of the U21's. I don't think he is really trying to say it was because of him it happened. I do note Richie is doing his best to question whether Hyland could have anything to do with it, perhaps it is one of his selectors that is the reason for cavans success. I mean it just doesn't compute that Hyland could be a good manager when you think he had a hand in dropping the greatest ever player ever in Cavan ever.

Myles you've become nearly as bad as Ritchie in the anti- Seanie corner.

+1

Why dont you tell us your opinion on johnston celt man. I mean our most talented player is transfering to another county and i dont think you've said a thing about it!
I'd be the same as CM and Boo, Myles, personally i wouldn't comment on the Johnson saga virtually at all.
I know the lad reasonably well, and while i don't think he handled the whole situation very well(just like Andrews and Co), the whole criticism around the county has got very personal in relation to Johnson.
I'm not accusing yourself of launching any personal attacks on him,but I've heard too many from the behind the wire brigade in this county in the last 3/4 months come out with unwarranted personal abuse towards the lad.
Best to stay out of it altogether!!!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on April 07, 2012, 10:37:42 PM
Bhm - im done talking about him.

Any team for tomorrow, i think it would be a real shame to go down and them young lads are trying hard so it would be a big blow to them. Lets hope we finish with a win.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on April 07, 2012, 10:45:11 PM
Havent heard any team for tommorow,
Division 4 would be a disaster for this group of young players and the Minors/Under 21's that are coming through,a completely wasted year of development. Playing the likes of Kilkenny and London won't do them any good.
I'd be confident they can pull something out of the fire against an Antrim team which don't need anything from the game.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: scoopmine on April 07, 2012, 11:09:27 PM
Team for tomorrow


                                  Keith Fannin.
      Damien Barkey.  Damien O'Reilly.  Ronan Flanagan.
        Dane O'Dowd.  Padraic O'Reilly.  Robert Maloney-Derham.
                      David Givney.  Ray Cullivan.
            Niall Smith.  Mark McKeever.  Niall Murray.
Brendan Fitzpatrick.  Niall McDermott.  Martin Dunne.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on April 07, 2012, 11:38:38 PM
Decent enough team. I think that is Cullivan and Niall Murray's first starts in the league this year. I was surpised they hadn't featured before now. Antrim have't a strong team on tomorrow, no Paddy Cunnigham or Thomas McCann. Most of their play would go through Michael McCann, good player but if they can contain him Cavan should shade it.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on April 08, 2012, 12:30:56 AM
Quote from: Celt_Man on April 07, 2012, 04:49:44 PM
Quote from: boojangles on April 07, 2012, 02:29:51 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on April 07, 2012, 11:10:09 AM
Quote from: Celt_Man on April 07, 2012, 02:31:52 AM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on April 07, 2012, 02:11:14 AM
Quote from: Celt_Man on April 07, 2012, 12:59:14 AM
Had to put it up - nearly fell off the chair laughing...  Could anyone be so delusional??

From a gentleman posting on Hoganstand regarding the Cavan v Derry Under 21 game thread..


QuoteTony I Am not knocking you at all I just wish to make a point.
A few years back I wrote for two weeks in the Cavan pot and the Anglo Celts how our Under 21 team were being neglected and that they needed a stand alone manager not the senior manager.
That same year in fairness to Tom Reilly he appointed a stand alone manager we got to an Ulster final and we have won one and we are in another final.
I am thankful that I had the balls to write what I wrote and because of those posts we are achieving something long may it continue.

Now if all it takes is a letter or two, I wonder could he come over to Cootehill, put pen to paper and turn our fortunes around as well!!

Ah now he didn't profess to being a miracle worker......   

The Championship draw comes out and then you go & say something like that...

Ah I think ye are taking him up wrong there, when he says "becasue of those posts" i presume he meant the post of Hyland as manager of the U21's. I don't think he is really trying to say it was because of him it happened. I do note Richie is doing his best to question whether Hyland could have anything to do with it, perhaps it is one of his selectors that is the reason for cavans success. I mean it just doesn't compute that Hyland could be a good manager when you think he had a hand in dropping the greatest ever player ever in Cavan ever.

Myles you've become nearly as bad as Ritchie in the anti- Seanie corner.

+1



+1
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on April 08, 2012, 03:32:44 PM
Out of retirement I see AC, missed you :-* Thought you were permanently gone!

Anyway Antrim 3-4, Cavan 0-6 just into 2nd half

Getting embarrassing.

Tipp are leading against Offaly is the only thing going our way.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on April 08, 2012, 03:33:48 PM
4-4 to Antrim now. Abysmal.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: scoopmine on April 08, 2012, 03:59:20 PM
Shocking second time in the league Cavan have conceded 4 goals in the league.

This thesis isnt being helped by listening to this.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on April 08, 2012, 04:06:15 PM
Antrim 4-6, Cavan 0-12 - final score

Tipp beat Offaly 0-11 to 0-8

I don't see anyway Andrews can survive this, he must have lost the dressing room if a team can get a hammering like that against a team with a load of reserve players with nothing to play for! The sad thing is the senior team don't need change but this looks just too bad to accept.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: scoopmine on April 08, 2012, 04:08:05 PM
Stayed up thanks to Tipperary...

Meath, Monaghan and Fermanagh join us...

Hope Dunne is OK...
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Ollie on April 08, 2012, 04:13:42 PM
Cavan 12pts Antrim 4-6. We remain in div 3 thanks to Tipp beating Offaly. I can't see the team taking much confidence from the League overall while preparing for Donegal.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cogito on April 08, 2012, 04:42:35 PM
Holy jaysus....
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on April 08, 2012, 05:30:30 PM
according to some boys on hoganstand andrews is gone. If its true the only interim solution is for hyland to take charge but please god not the other lad.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cogito on April 08, 2012, 05:33:01 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on April 08, 2012, 05:30:30 PM
according to some boys on hoganstand andrews is gone. If its true the only interim solution is for hyland to take charge but please god not the other lad.

Who is that Myles?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on April 08, 2012, 05:37:17 PM
King.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on April 08, 2012, 06:36:14 PM
It's just as well Offaly were fckn useless during the league. Their only win was against us, we deserved to go down losing 5 games, i doubt many teams have stayed up before on 4pts...
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on April 08, 2012, 07:07:58 PM
Where would you even start....
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on April 08, 2012, 07:21:57 PM
Nothing official out on andrews so must have just been wishful thinking by some of his detractors. Maybe it would be better if he left but the policy of going with youth must be seen through.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on April 08, 2012, 10:25:10 PM
Jesus that was bad lads.
In fairness though where would do we think we are going with a half forward line of Niall Murray, McKeever and Niall Smith.
Niall Muray and Niall Smith are very good footballers as we all know, but they are not physically up to matching up against the likes of Loughrey,Crozier and Scullion at this stage in their development.
Tony Scullion and James Loughrey must dream about playing Cavan, every time they play us the two lads motor up and down the field to their hearts content  and play all the football in the world with not a single hand put on them .
If at least 4/5 of that starting 15 don't get the axe for the Donegal game,we will be lucky to keep the defeat under 15 points.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on April 09, 2012, 01:13:33 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yo4NgpDZq9k&feature=youtube_gdata_player

Vals after match interview. Hes a bit of a waffler! He has 6 weeks to come up with sone sort of a plan for donegal and i wish them all well.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on April 09, 2012, 01:47:28 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on April 09, 2012, 01:13:33 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yo4NgpDZq9k&feature=youtube_gdata_player

Vals after match interview. Hes a bit of a waffler! He has 6 weeks to come up with sone sort of a plan for donegal and i wish them all well.

He is a clown and the county boards should man up and get rid of him and let the U-21 management team take over.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on April 09, 2012, 08:01:36 PM
He seemed upbeat in that link myles :P that was after they beat louth in the league last year. Hopefully the u21's can win another Ulster on wednesday, any word on barry reilly?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on April 09, 2012, 08:15:46 PM
Sorry, pasted the wrong link

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EHeuwNA9vkk&feature=youtube_gdata_player
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: PhilsJemmysField on April 10, 2012, 02:19:29 PM
That was a fairly bad way / absolute disaster result to finish the league with. Next year's Div 3 looks tough already but at least we have Wednesday night to look forward to. Any news from the camp ?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on April 10, 2012, 05:12:14 PM
Quote from: PhilsJemmysField on April 10, 2012, 02:19:29 PM
That was a fairly bad way / absolute disaster result to finish the league with. Next year's Div 3 looks tough already but at least we have Wednesday night to look forward to. Any news from the camp ?

It was a disgrace but what else would you expect with a bluffer in charge. 

I dont blame the players one bit either.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cogito on April 10, 2012, 05:21:42 PM
Just seen the interview after the Antrim game.

Left very dissapointed. The fact we got more scores that Antrim is completely irrelevant. They got 4 goals. How in the name of god you can justify that by saying we got more points then i will just never know.

I would be extremely worried about our younger players losing their confidence at this stage. They look completely clueless as to how they are meant to be playing. Not sure on why we have Keith Fannin in goals either, I just don't think he commands the area the way a goalkeeper should. I would prefer if he got a shot out the field.

I was willing to give Andrews the benefit of the doubt all year but after the weekend I am not optimistic about our summer at all. 

Hopefully the u21's can lift our spirits tomorrow.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on April 10, 2012, 06:18:30 PM
The overwhelming consensus about tomorrow night is that Tyrone should have far too much for Cavan.. Speaking to a few Tyrone people they seem to think this team have yet to get going properly and yet strolled to the final. Can we really upset the odds two years in a row?? Not much word coming from the camp. Low key compared to last year. Also, does anyone know if Cadbury's have stopped giving out the Man of the Match awards? None from the Semis announced like other years.

As for the Seniors, we need to see something from them come Championship time. 2 more straight defeats and I can't see Andrews justifying his staying on for another year. If that happens I hope the entire U21 management team are drafted into the Senior setup. Give them their shot with the young lads they've been with for the last 3 years and see if they can make a competitive outfit out of them.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: scoopmine on April 11, 2012, 11:39:21 AM
Best of luck to the Cavan lads tonight. Keep the faith.

As for Sunday positive side. We stayed up.

Negative side. Lack of gameplan. We cannot afford to go out without a plan and expect Martin Dunne to kick all our scores.

Positive. Young players are getting experience and adapting to intercounty senior its not going to happen overnight it is a seriously young team.

Negative. Injuries Keating big miss our best target man and able to pug in midfield gone injured big miss. G Mac a great prospect and playing well but is still learning his trade great going forward but needs to up his defensive side. Hopefully Dunne is OK. Full back situation is not being helped by poor protection.

Positive. Players dropped the jelly situation has been talked about in great detail. James Reilly great shop stopper but kick outs have never varied lump it long is not good enough. Players have put in serious commitment and if that culture is brought on even with a dismal year at least that is what expected when you pull on a Cavan jersey.

Finally Val
I feel he should get a proper chance. I wonder about his management of players. I don't agree with him dropping committed players like Dermot Sheridan and wish Alan Clarke, and John McCutcheon had not dropped of the panel who were leaders both on the pitch and in the dressing room and could help the team in defense. He has been brave in hi decisions that had to be made that other managers avoided. But we are starting from a very low base which should not be used as an excuse but as a motivation to improve things. Alot of clowns on other sites talking about instant results and giving out about players.

Cavan for Sam!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on April 11, 2012, 02:36:09 PM
I admire your optimism and up beat posts Scoop.

Were the goals against Antrim down to the goalkeeper or the defense? 

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on April 11, 2012, 04:47:48 PM
Quote from: Denn Forever on April 11, 2012, 02:36:09 PM
I admire your optimism and up beat posts Scoop.

Were the goals against Antrim down to the goalkeeper or the defense?
DF,
The Goals on sunday in my opinion were the fault of the half forward line,who allowed Tony Scullion and James Loughrey in particular(who scored 2 goals) to saunter forward at will.
Damien Barkey was his usual sticky self,
DJ gave the ball away a few times,but he wasn't bad overall,
Rony Flanagan played most of the game out the field as his man was withdrawn into the Antrim defensive system.
As for the goalkeeper,
Keith Fannin was outstanding on Sunday,saving 2 clear goal chances,and his short kickouts were spot on.
Can't make the game tonight due to being stuck in work in Dublin City Centre,Can any of you lads put up a match report late tonight when ye get back?
I would appreciate it.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Ollie on April 11, 2012, 06:42:36 PM
County board is meeting with the players tommorw over the management. Looks like Vals time is up.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: sams the aim on April 11, 2012, 06:44:51 PM
Any1 see rte news must have been a vote of no confidence at the players meeting last night, even the players he picked on his panel do not have and in him, a shambles the whole lot
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: drici on April 11, 2012, 09:31:09 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=35V7oqeuxRQ

All together now.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on April 11, 2012, 09:45:01 PM
Another great win.  A bright light in a bleak time for Cavan.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on April 11, 2012, 11:21:57 PM
Brillant win tonight, got off to a dream start like last year with a first pen goal, penalty from Dara Sexton. Tyrone settled down and scored a few pts straight after that. kevin tierney knoced over a few frees and Cavan were 2 ahead at half time. Second half i felt Cavan played all the football, Jack Brady came more into the came. Ray Lynch and Joe Dillon got outstanding scored. Killian Clarke was brillant in the second half like he was in the minor final last year. Barry Reilly came on but lasted about 5minutes, hamstring flared up again. Doubt he will make the semi. Winning a consevective Ulster title really show Cavan are a coming force despite the bleaks times at present at senior level. I'd imagine Terry Hyland will take over from Andrews now.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on April 11, 2012, 11:52:31 PM
A long road home again but it was worth it. What an exceptional bunch of proud Cavan men on that field tonight. We got a dream start with a peno from our 1st attack but it was obvious Tyrone had a strong running game and we struggled to deal with it. Thanks to frees from Tierney we managed to keep our noses in front at half time even though Tyrone were probably playing the best football. The 2nd half we upped our game. Paddy King came on again and did a copy of his semi final appearance, turning midfeild in our favour for 15 minutes in which we opened up a 5 point lead. Jack Brady picked up lots of ball, young conroy ran himself into the ground. Best for me was Clarke at FB, and he made a couple of superb catches when Tyrone were putting on the pressure. But overall, this was a victory for team work, fight, determination and hunger. Very well done to the team and lads whoever thinks Hyland is not good at managing a team, well the results say otherwise. Now, next up the rossies.

As for the senior debacle that's unfolding this evening, hardly worth commenting on given the night thats in it.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: scoopmine on April 12, 2012, 12:00:20 AM
Great win.
Dream start with a Sexton peno. Ref was very fussy gave alot of frees can only remember 2 scores from play lucky tierney was accurate. Worked very hard.
Second half much of the same Cavan opened a gap and again forced tyrone into mistakes picked up alot of breaking ball. When tyrone started to get back into it Killian Clarke was peerless at full back and caught a number of balls. Tyrone badly missed Ronan O'Neil and seemed to run out of ideas. Cavan were by far the better side.

Honourable mentions to Clarke, Fergal Flanagan, Jack Brady.

Cavan Abu

Can anyone shed some light on the Val situation hear he was voted out 33 to 3 and meeting tomorrow night. Heard Keogan is involved in some way though that could just be rumours!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cogito on April 12, 2012, 12:14:04 AM
As much as I want to know what is going on with the Seniors I will refrain.

Tonight is a night for the u21's. Amazing achievement. Never thought I would live to see days like this again. Three Ulster titles in 12 months.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on April 12, 2012, 12:15:05 AM
Oh yes... what a win!!!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on April 12, 2012, 12:49:12 AM
Great win. Completely outfought Tyrone. Killian Clarke was outstanding. Jack Brady is sacrificing his scoring for his work around the 40. Sneaked in and won some good ball and distributed it well.
Conor Moynagh had an awful start to the game but instead of letting it get to him he knuckled down and turned in a great performance after that.
Now it's time to show that our Underage can hack it outside of Ulster. Roscommon are a different animal to what they were in the Hastings Cup and let's hope the lads don't take them for granted, our Minors were sure they had the beating of Galway last year and look what happened.

But for now we'll enjoy tonight. Good to see Barry Reilly involved in some capacity but a huge pity the hamstring went again. His speech and bringing up Mickey and Conor to lift the cup along with him show the type of captain he is.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on April 12, 2012, 10:35:54 AM
One of the finest posts ever on Hoganstand, hopefully Tony Montana won't mind me pasting here....

The 11th of April will be remembered for a lot of things in Cavan. For the day that seanies transfer eventually gets ratified ? Or the day when news broke about the cavan senior players having no faith in Val Andrews ? No, this day will be remembered for the Cavan U21's securing a brilliant double in Ulster at this grade. What does this team have to do to get recognition, in the lead up to all their games in Ulster this year the opposition have been made favourites. Perhaps that suits Terry, the players & management fine, to go into games as underdogs and come out fighting, but give credit where it is due. I hope people made plenty of money on the bookies, who had priced this team at a ridiculous 2/1 for last night's decider. So off to Brewster park again, if I have to drive thru Belturbet again this year, i'll go crazy ! Some rain showers prior to kick off on the journey down, but once the clouds passed, it was a perfect evening for football. And a perfect evening it would transpire to be. On arrival, while looking thru the fencing along the road of the pitch, we could see the stand was jammed already, and this was at 7:45, it was the terrace for us tonight. The Cavan supporters had flocked in their droves for this game, and why not. Because this team has shown a work rate + passion + desire + never say die spirit that supporters love to see & expect to see from a team putting on the blue jersey.
So proceedings got underway by the Derry referee, who was not as trigger happy with the yellow cards as the guy last week. Cavan won the throw up & immediately went on the attack, a few passes later, a diagonal ball from under the stand across to Tierney was slightly too high for him, but found its way to the onrushing Conroy who was bearing down on goals, the defender knowing he had to prevent a goal, wrapped himself around the Breffni player, foul, penalty = Dream start. Up stepped Sexton (not who I would have envisaged to take it), but he slotted it into the onion bag along the ground about a metre from the middle of the goals (not the greatest penalty ever) luckily the keeper went the wrong way. Dream start, early goal like last year, just what the lads needed. Cavan would lead from start to finish & never be headed. When you see surnames like Canavan, Donnelly, Monroe & McGuigan on the tyrone panel, you know these guys have some football in them. Tyrone reacted swiftly, playing lots of possession, give and go's, working it out of defence at pace & probing passes to the inside forwards. Everyone knew this was going to be a tough shift for the boys in blue. Tyrone quickly rattled off the next two scores of the game from free's awarded, clumsy & needless tackles in some cases. Possession & territory was even enough early on, but tyrone looked well up for this. Cavan won possession from the kickout, a nice quick low ball into jack's chest who was occupying the centre forward berth and he drilled a lovely ball into Tierney who was subsequently fouled. He popped it over the bar. 1-1 to 2. More intricate play from the Red Hand resulted in another free, which was converted by their nr 13 (could of been mistaken for Johnny Wilkinson). Tierney was causing the tyrone defence trouble, more free's followed. Jack converted one & Tierney another. Tierney then missed a scoreable free, would he regret it later ? Tyrone then missed a free and a put a few chances wide themselves. A massive score from their midfielder nr 8 would prove to be the only score from play for the entire 1st half for both sides. Some of the diagonal play inside to the cavan forward line worked very well at times, but broke down on a few occasions also either by poor execution of a wall of tyrone men after scampering back. Tierney scored two more frees & two from tyrone left it 1-4 to 5 at the break. Cavan left for the dressing rooms to roars from their huge support who outnumbered tyrone hands down.
The talk on the terrace during half time over a warm cup of tea & a twix was all positive. Tyrone looked good enough, but never really threatened our goal mouth area, they had some wayward shots which you would not accustom to tyrone teams, but we were confident the lads would push on in the 2nd half & reclaim their title & hopefully the punters would take a nice few pound off the bookies. A win win for all Cavan people, a cup & some €€€ = a good evenings work. As usual, Paddy King entered the fray at midfield for K Brady who had put in his shift in the first half & a number of deliberate yet necessary fouls. Out with the stopwatch & here we go, ball is thrown in. Tyrone win possession, move it quickly with intent towards Conor Gilsenans goal & win a free 30 yards out after 30 seconds, one point in it, not the start we wanted. Cavans defence had played well up to this point, hassling + tackling like their lives depended on it. An obvious foul on one of the cavan forwards resulted in a free which Tierney slotted over. Back to a two point game. Think this was as close as it got for the remainder of the match. King yet again began to have an influence around the middle of the park, winning some vital balls, knocking breaks down which were being hoovered up by Jack, Lynch & others. Dillion then kicked over for Cavans first from play. Tierney had the beating of his man, "feed the chunk" was the shouts from around us on the terrace !! More frees followed for both teams. Barry Reilly entered the fray with 15 minutes remaining, he didn't look 100%, and they may rue this decision as he had to leave the field injured with a few minutes left on the clock. A 40 yard left footed free from Nevin sailed in the Enniskillen sky, it bounced off the cross bar & landed back in Tierneys hands on the edge of the square who was swarmed by tyrone defenders in an instant, the ball was quickly recycled by 3 quick handpasses and ended up with jack brady who stuck it over left footed from 10 yards. 4 points ahead now & we were keeping the scoreboard ticking over nicely, tyrone needed a goal, but it didn't look like coming. Tyrone were starting to put pressure on, coming in waves from the back like their senior counterparts are renowned for. They kicked a number of poor wides which would eventually cost them in this decider. A lovely low pass from a Leddy free from centre field into the scoreboard end corner was gobbled up by Jack who was making some terrific runs & dummy runs, he turned on a six pence & in one movement grabbed the defenders arm under his oxster, free kick awarded by the Derry ref. Cuteness, you can't teach it. Jack created & struck the free over with aplomb, it was a massive score & the crowd could sense victory was near. The fat lady was clearing her throat. Tyrone attacked again, but the cavan defence was resolute. Killian Clarke, McLoughlin, Moynagh, Flanagan & Sexton all worked like dogs. Tyrone hit back with another score. Clarke fetched two high balls & stormed out of defence, lifting the crowd & his fellow players. Lynch converted a good score from play. The last minute or two was blurry, plus everybody was asking me "how long was left".... Referee blew the whistle, game over 1-10 to 10. Cavan U21's victorious again on this ground. Maybe we can get the seniors to play here instead of breffni.
The stewards tried to keep the fans off the pitch, one steward fell on his **** & was like a turtle upside down, another put out a foot trying to trip a man. Quality entertainment. In the end the stewards realised, like a lot of us knew & like the team knew, it was inevitable what was taking place here tonight. This team only had one goal for the last 4 months, and that was to retain the cup they had won the year before. The crowd flocked around the main stand awaiting the presentation. Fellow Cavan man Aodghan O Farrell presented the cup to Barry Reilly to an echo of applause, wooohooo's & screams of joy from all who was present. Once the obligatory 3 cheers was done & dusted, the captain then gave one of the better speeches I have heard at a final & it showed how closely knit this group of players & management is together. 70 training sessions together up to the 27th March, "a frightening statistic" as the captain eluded to.
What can you say about this team? In that last sentence lies the key word folks. TEAM. There is no individual's or prima donnas involved here in this set up, they work their socks off in training, in the gym & in games for one another like it is their club mate, brother or best friend that they are going into battle with. That characteristic is not easy to ingrain in young players & cannot be turned on like a light when you flick a switch. It takes a lot of hard bloody work. Every player was tremenduous throughout the campaign so far, yes some may have played better than others & may have scored more. Games are won or lost on winning the breaking ball, getting a fist or boot in at the o'neills ball ahead of the opposition player, winning a free you had no right to win, getting down to block a shot that is destined to go over or under the bar. All those bits of hard work, collectively, that some people don't appreciate or even notice is what sets the team on the way to victory. Every game is unique, the ball either breaks to you or away from you on any given day, as long as each player is giving 100%, this squad & management know that it will take a good team to overcome them. I won't go into individual performances of the players, it is not fair to do so on a night when the achieved a historic two in a row. Have we done that before ? Blow the dust off the history books, cos i don't know the answer. I'm proud to be a Cavan man this morning, this team makes me proud, they put us in the news for all the right reasons. Roll on Roscommon in 10 days time, venue yet to be announced, probably pearse park in Longford. More support is needed, tougher tests await them, as the captain said in his speech, "we are the 16th man" and "the team thrives off our support when they are out on the field". But also, because I think they just bloody deserve it. Congrats again one & all. And as status quo sang, the party ain't over......
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on April 12, 2012, 12:01:36 PM
Looking at the team that started last night from the match program, their is an awful lot available next year. Obviously the 4minors who started, Dillon Moynagh O'Donnell and Clarke. Dara Sexton, Jason Mcglaughlin, Fergal Flanagan, Jack Brady, Chris Conroy and Conor Gilseanan are all eligble for U21 in 2013. It bodes well for next couple of u21 teams. Cavan seniors should reap the benifts in a few years,. There is a conveyor belt of talent coming through.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on April 12, 2012, 12:40:55 PM
The most important thing about our U21 setup is the aura surrounding it. Players want to be involved in it, they want to give it everything, they want to be a part of that family as Barry Reilly called it. That is driven on by strong characters like Gearoid, O'Meara, Barry, Conor Moynagh, Mickey Brady. The continued success of the U21s will be dependent on keeping up that tradition and the fierce determination and work ethic that comes with it.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on April 12, 2012, 02:58:42 PM
The future is bright, the future is Blue.
Brilliant battling display that made every Cavan man, woman and child proud last night. Terry Hyland deserves all the plaudits as he has brought through a bunch of players over the last 2-3 years who have finally restored some much needed pride to a county and people who had become accustomed to playing second fiddle in Ulster.
After the semi-final win the Derry Senior manager John Brennan spat out the sour grapes (on Youtube) and pointed to the 12 yellow cards we had conceded. I could only grin and laugh at the footage. The shoe was finally on the other foot in Ulster. For too long Cavan underage teams had come back after defeats in Ulster with tales of biased refereeing (too many to mention) last minute scores( Minor 2000, U-21 2004) and naive mistakes or indiscipline (U-21 2005) along with every other hard luck story.
Like alot of underage teams Cavan has produced over the past 15 or so years this team can play football and compete with the best but the big difference with this team is they have that certain cuteness needed to finish out games. Be it for the want of a better word, the cynical fouling in our own half forward line or the 'injuries' to kill a minute or to stop the oppositions momentum. For years we have seen the Tyrones, Downs and Derrys winning titles not with greater skill but with that know how that comes from winning tight games. Cavan teams have finally begun to learn from our losses in Ulster. Lets hope we can take those experiences and use them outside the province.
Cavan are once again becoming a name that is feared in Ulster while at the same time taking away the air of invincibility that had surrounded Tyrone and Derry for so long in this county. 3 Ulster titles in the space of a year was the stuff of dreams only a few years ago. But everybody should remember the barren days and make sure we don't return to them. Cavan expects again and it is going to take a redoubling of efforts at club and county level to keep us where we belong because you can bet Tyrone and the rest of Ulster are already thinking of ways to stop us next year.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on April 12, 2012, 03:02:16 PM
Cavan will have to look elsewhere for a new manager if Andrews does step down as Terry Hyland confirmed he wouldn't be taking it. http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/northern-ireland/17688717
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: scoopmine on April 12, 2012, 03:16:57 PM
Heard Anthony Forde will take over till the season is over.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on April 12, 2012, 03:39:07 PM
Me heart used to be broke arguing with supporters from others counties - and indeed a few from our own - who'd always be banging on about 'Cavan not having the players' and nothing coming through at underage. Finally, finally the talent that has always been there is now starting to manifest itself in the results instead of moral victories and last-gasp defeats.
Well done to all concerned. I recall watching Hyland's U21s lose to Donegal in their Ulster final back in 2010 and such was the tactical naivety that evening I left convinced that Hyland didn't really have the nouse for this level.

All's I can say is that humble pie tastes all right, you know.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on April 12, 2012, 04:17:22 PM
Absolutely delighted with last night.
All club league games will surely be off this weekend then?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on April 12, 2012, 04:43:38 PM
Andrew Resigned this morning...

http://www.anglocelt.ie/news/roundup/articles/2012/04/12/4010004-andrews-resigns-as-cavan-manaer/

Andrews resigns as Cavan manager

Val Andrews has resigned as manager of the Cavan senior football team with immediate effect, The Anglo-Celt can reveal.

Andrews stepped down this morning and, the Celt understands, moves are already afoot to appoint a new management team.

County board chairman Tom Reilly paid tribute to Andrews for his contribution over the past 18 months and for "his courageous decision to step aside for the good of Cavan football".

Reilly denied that the players took a vote on the manager at their meeting in Virginia on Tuesday night.

All parties were keen to avoid a drawn out situation, said Reilly.

"We have to be fair to Val, if he had prolonged this and took a stand, it would have made it very difficult for the board to take sides," he said.

Reilly thanked Andrews for making what he termed "a brave decision for the good of Cavan football and not for any individuals".

It had been reported that the players voted 33-3 in favour of asking Andrews to step down as manager. However, a source has stated that only 26 players were in attendance at the meeting.

A new management team is expected to be in place soon, with the county management committee set to discuss the issue tonight.

A statement from the county board said:

"Following Cavan's exit from the Allianz National football league the senior inter county panel informed the management and board that it was their wish to have a players meeting to analyse their own personal performances from said campaign. The players had the blessing of both management and board to have this meeting.

"A number of issues arose from the meeting and following a discussion with Val Andrews he has decided to tender his resignation as Cavan Senior team manager with immediate effect.

"This decision is yet another example of the genuine interest and love Val Andrews has for Cavan football. Val feels that for the over all well being of the team which he worked selflessly with, a speedy decision is necessary to afford Cavan County board every opportunity to make alternative arrangements for the up coming Ulster Senior football championship and in doing so he wishes the best for Cavan football.

"The Chairman and Officers of Cavan County Board who enjoyed a close relationship with Val would like to express our gratitude to him for his efforts in our County, and wish him and his Family health and good luck in the future."
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: PhilsJemmysField on April 12, 2012, 04:46:56 PM
Delighted all round for the U21 lads, especially that Hyland will remain with the U21 project the approach of having a large squad. Which effectively means that you are creating a conveyor belt of Talent for future years is working and needs to be let continue. As it will have a few bad years too and needs to be let flourish with all the up's and downs that mean. Especially glad to see Conroy from lavey get his chance a good honest ball player. Maybe not his best night but he worked his socks off.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on April 12, 2012, 04:55:52 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on April 12, 2012, 04:17:22 PM
Absolutely delighted with last night.
All club league games will surely be off this weekend then?

You'd expect so... Dessie can run the shite out of ya at training on Friday now!! :P
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on April 12, 2012, 04:56:50 PM
Quote from: Celt_Man on April 12, 2012, 04:55:52 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on April 12, 2012, 04:17:22 PM
Absolutely delighted with last night.
All club league games will surely be off this weekend then?

You'd expect so... Dessie can run the shite out of ya at training on Friday now!! :P
Il be erhm, "delayed" coming down from Dublin, so don't worry about me  ;)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on April 12, 2012, 04:57:37 PM
Quote from: PhilsJemmysField on April 12, 2012, 04:46:56 PM
Delighted all round for the U21 lads, especially that Hyland will remain with the U21 project the approach of having a large squad.

Its a great idea, there is probably at least 10 lads on that panel who wont kick a ball in this years championship but will be rearing to go next year and will have gained so much by just being involved. 
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on April 12, 2012, 05:02:36 PM
Quote from: tommysmith on April 12, 2012, 04:57:37 PM
Quote from: PhilsJemmysField on April 12, 2012, 04:46:56 PM
Delighted all round for the U21 lads, especially that Hyland will remain with the U21 project the approach of having a large squad.

Its a great idea, there is probably at least 10 lads on that panel who wont kick a ball in this years championship but will be rearing to go next year and will have gained so much by just being involved.

Great idea in fairness... as the man said himself they'll learn nothing at home
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on April 12, 2012, 07:36:54 PM
Anyone hear how bad Barry Reillys injury is, is it a total reoccurance of the hamstring pull. What a shame if it is.

Another shame is that this business with Andrews is overshadowing the brilliant win last night. I suppose my preference at this stage would be to give someone local a shot, maybe Anthony Forde? Hyland has other things to worry about and it would be daft taking him away from that. King hasn't a clue, he should go with Val. It needs to be done very quickly and not dragged out for weeks. Feel sorry for Andrews in a way, nice guy but it was getting  to a stage where he seemed, to me anyway, to be doing more harm than good. I hope the player meeting panned out the way the co board statement says it did and not as out and out player power like what happened to Liam Austin.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on April 12, 2012, 07:52:54 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on April 12, 2012, 07:36:54 PM
Anyone hear how bad Barry Reillys injury is, is it a total reoccurance of the hamstring pull. What a shame if it is.

Another shame is that this business with Andrews is overshadowing the brilliant win last night. I suppose my preference at this stage would be to give someone local a shot, maybe Anthony Forde? Hyland has other things to worry about and it would be daft taking him away from that. King hasn't a clue, he should go with Val. It needs to be done very quickly and not dragged out for weeks. Feel sorry for Andrews in a way, nice guy but it was getting  to a stage where he seemed, to me anyway, to be doing more harm than good. I hope the player meeting panned out the way the co board statement says it did and not as out and out player power like what happened to Liam Austin.

I know that the players vote was not the idea of the players anyway. Hopefully the CB can get somebody in that will have the respect of all the players and also the supporters. After the farce against Donegal last year Val Andrews was never going to be that man. By all accounts a genuine guy and I wish him well but ultimately I see him as a failure who was in charge for another wasted 2 years at Senior level for Cavan.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cogito on April 12, 2012, 08:05:20 PM
Where to now chaps?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: FermGael on April 12, 2012, 10:52:32 PM
Stay away from the Fermanagh approach to dealing with this mess.  It only leads to a report that can only be seen by the few and left to rumour and gossip for the many,
It will only cause more problems in the long run.

Fair play to Andrews for knowing where he is not wanted and for having a county board that acted swiftly..
Believe me London is not a pretty place in a qualifiers and you have been saved from that.

Get a care taker in to do a job for the summer.  Sure Banty might even be free after tonight as well.
Leave Hyland with the u-21's and then give him the job after the championship is over.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: FermGael on April 12, 2012, 11:27:05 PM
Quote from: hardstation on April 12, 2012, 11:04:29 PM
Are you not happy with the Fermanagh situation? From the outside, it seems to have worked very well. Having a team on a roll and all pushing the one way can only be good. Fermanagh will be back to at least where they were before the wheels came off, imo. They pulled themselves out of the mire without much effort. I'd be fairly hopeful if I was from Fermanagh.
Very happy with this year so far.
But stay away from reports and the like
Very few got to actually see it in Fermanagh.

The situation with Fermanagh this year has very little to do
with the county board. That's why it is going so well...
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: PhilsJemmysField on April 13, 2012, 09:55:01 AM
From what I am hearing there was very little player power involved in the Andrews "heave". Seems to be more he worked out that the big knobs had no faith in him and the Player Meeting fitted into the engineering around this. The Press Leak / Release and it's timing on the eve of the most important game of the year so far is really telling. So that possibly means our County Board lads have a solution lined up. It will be some craic if we go with a Wolves style approach
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: whats my name on April 14, 2012, 08:58:14 AM
Quote from: PhilsJemmysField on April 13, 2012, 09:55:01 AM
From what I am hearing there was very little player power involved in the Andrews "heave". Seems to be more he worked out that the big knobs had no faith in him and the Player Meeting fitted into the engineering around this. The Press Leak / Release and it's timing on the eve of the most important game of the year so far is really telling. So that possibly means our County Board lads have a solution lined up. It will be some craic if we go with a Wolves style approach
i heard the exact same thing Phil that it was the county board behind Andrews departure
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cogito on April 14, 2012, 11:16:40 AM
Make that 3.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Swadman on April 14, 2012, 12:03:58 PM
Quote from: FermGael on April 12, 2012, 10:52:32 PM
...Fair play to Andrews for knowing where he is not wanted and for having a county board that acted swiftly....Get a care taker in to do a job for the summer.
Leave Hyland with the u-21's and then give him the job after the championship is over.
I agree with you there FG and Hardstations' point about "appointing someone who is not trusted from the beginning and not given a real chance has to end." although this is harder than it sounds as, following any appointment,  there is always a swell of optimistic enthusiasm from 80% and begrudging pessimism from the rest which festers if results aren't instantly forthcoming.
1. Get the right man/team
2. Give him/them 3 years
3. Be patient
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BigMac on April 14, 2012, 01:14:20 PM
According to Tom Reilly, the new manager will be from inside the county. The options are fairly limited if that is going to be the case. It's either Hyland, (who will surely not accept it, even if the county board were foolish to offer it to him, due to his commitment with the under 21s) or a combination of Forde and McCabe, as Keoghan is quoted as saying. I really think Hyland should sacrifice the "glitz and glamour" of the senior role for the sake of the U-21s. I don't think he would risk doing both jobs after getting this far with the 21s, surely another crack at an all Ireland wth that age group is preferred to presiding over an almost guaranteed 2 losses in the championship. I don't really know much about McCabe and Forde. McCabe managed the minors, and Forde has the experience with the gaels, but is that enough to try and command the respect off players they have previously played with and against? What other options are there within the county? Surely not King? Jack Bradys father (can't remember his first name) has been the manager of the last four division 1 U-21 winners, 3 with Ramor Munterconnaght, and one with Lavey Kilenkere, so maybe he is the next "high profile" club manager to have a shot at it? Anyone got any other suggestions?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on April 14, 2012, 02:30:37 PM
Keoghan should keep his trap shut. He had his chance and all he did was bring the players on the piss. He is a muppet and should stick to bar work.

Bigmac - Forde was also a selector on last years U21's and was well thought off. I think I'd let him have a go at it, I read him in the celt too and I think he talks a lot of sense.

Over on HS there is some awful shite being written. Get Joe Kernan or get Micko or maybe Martin McHugh - what planet are these clowns living on? A couple of gaels "fans" reckon it would be a disgrace if Hyland took it. What a shocking thing to say given the incredible work he is doing at U21, just goes to show you that some people will never be happy unless they are bitching about a Cavan manager. I would like to see Hyland stay and focus on the U21's and maybe next year get involved with the senior team.

Is McCabe still over the minor team, if he is he should be left there too.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cogito on April 14, 2012, 02:49:36 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on April 14, 2012, 02:30:37 PM
Keoghan should keep his trap shut. He had his chance and all he did was bring the players on the piss. He is a muppet and should stick to bar work.

Bigmac - Forde was also a selector on last years U21's and was well thought off. I think I'd let him have a go at it, I read him in the celt too and I think he talks a lot of sense.

Over on HS there is some awful shite being written. Get Joe Kernan or get Micko or maybe Martin McHugh - what planet are these clowns living on? A couple of gaels "fans" reckon it would be a disgrace if Hyland took it. What a shocking thing to say given the incredible work he is doing at U21, just goes to show you that some people will never be happy unless they are bitching about a Cavan manager. I would like to see Hyland stay and focus on the U21's and maybe next year get involved with the senior team.

Is McCabe still over the minor team, if he is he should be left there too.

I think it would be a huge mistake to pull Hyland and McCabe away from the underage teams at this early stage. It would just be narrow-minded and in five years time we might be wondering why we have no good underage players coming through again.

If Forde is clued to most of the players in the set-up then let him see out the season. I mean, what have we to lose? Only thing I am curios about is why he is not with the u21's this time around? Hyland should be left to focus on trying to go one step further than last year.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on April 14, 2012, 03:27:14 PM
The main reason McCabe got the minor job was because of keoghan, and then he got Gary Donahoe along with him. I hope McCabe doesn't get near it.  Forde hasn't much experience of managing teams so i dont know why he is the fav at the min. He was part of the back room with the u21's last year and done well with the Gaels last year when their trainer left but never managed a team. Gary Farrelly would be worth a shot.. He got Denn to a County final and got Dunshaughlin to a county final last year.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on April 14, 2012, 03:45:37 PM
The important thing is not to unduly upset our underage setups when we finally seem to be making progress. Stick Forde in and give him his chance at damage limitation for the Championship. Leave Hyland where he is for the minute and reassess come September time. McCabe should not be going near our Senior team yet. The continued competitiveness of our Minor and U21 teams is more important than making an appointment that looks good in a season that we will achieve little to nothing.

Agree with Myles sentiments on Keoghan. He should not be commenting at all. A spoofer of the highest degree.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on April 15, 2012, 07:44:49 AM
I agree with all the opinions here. It took us long enough to find a successful formula at underage so to meddle with it now in the hope of some short term gain - that likely won't materialise anyway - would be high folly. Leave well enough alone and get a sticking plaster solution for the seniors and then use the summer to make a truly considered and well thought out choice.

As for Keogan however, his comments about McCabe and Forde (he has a close personal friendship with McCabe too) seem to be a clumsy plant in the media and given his sway on the county board I would worry that there is some genuine fire underneath his smoke.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on April 15, 2012, 09:35:55 AM
QuoteAgree with Myles sentiments on Keoghan. He should not be commenting at all. A spoofer of the highest degree.

Isn't Donal our representative at Congress (he got some high profile job lately any way) and so I'm sure there were many journalists asking his opinion.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on April 15, 2012, 03:28:15 PM
Being asked for your opinion doesn't mean you have to give it. Present a united front and throw out the party line "We feel we have a number of internal candidates and the board and the clubs will discuss possibilities in the coming week" or something to that effect.

To me a disaster of an ex-manager, current county board member proposing 2 inexperienced ex-players one of whom is our current Minor manager shows a severe lack of cop on. I wouldn't expect much better though.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: whats my name on April 15, 2012, 05:26:01 PM
just to let you know terry hyland is the manger for the rest of the season
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on April 15, 2012, 06:03:38 PM
Quote from: whats my name on April 15, 2012, 05:26:01 PM
just to let you know terry hyland is the manger for the rest of the season

Confirmed??  How did you hear?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on April 15, 2012, 07:19:52 PM
Cadburys U-21 All-Ireland Semi final. Cavan V Roscommon Saturday 21st Longford at 4pm.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cogito on April 15, 2012, 08:56:14 PM
Found these today. It's Terry Hyland and Barry Reilyl speaking after their win the other night. Both come across very well.

I remember seeing Barry criticised Val in a paper before so found his description of Terry very interesting

Terry - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3fqBGVooGPE&feature=youtu.be&a

Barry -http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XN95MSEtgZA&list=UU_dITxUSD5opTnWHtgBCJhg&index=1&feature=plcp
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ahhjHu-CZOg&feature=relmfu
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on April 15, 2012, 09:55:33 PM
I just read that pearse park is only allowed hold 8k. There were 5.5k in enniskillen on a wednesday night and probablyclose to 5k were from cavan. I woukd expect us to bring nearly 8 on our own. Roscommon should be well supported too. Did anyone hear if it is all ticket?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on April 15, 2012, 09:59:05 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on April 15, 2012, 09:55:33 PM
I just read that pearse park is only allowed hold 8k. There were 5.5k in enniskillen on a wednesday night and probablyclose to 5k were from cavan. I woukd expect us to bring nearly 8 on our own. Roscommon should be well supported too. Did anyone hear if it is all ticket?

No word of tickets but i will be heading as early as i can i dont think it will hold the crowd. 

Cavan could bring 6/7 thousand easily to this.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: whats my name on April 15, 2012, 11:06:32 PM
Quote from: Celt_Man on April 15, 2012, 06:03:38 PM
Quote from: whats my name on April 15, 2012, 05:26:01 PM
just to let you know terry hyland is the manger for the rest of the season

Confirmed??  How did you hear?
i heard from a player he has the job for the rest of the season at least he is taking training on tue night
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: PhilsJemmysField on April 16, 2012, 09:49:21 AM
Meeting in the Kilmore tonight so somebody getting the job !!

Hope it is not Hyland
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on April 16, 2012, 03:00:32 PM
Is this what the CB were angling for all along?  Will the appointment be dependent on the new manager getting Johnson back?  Thank God for the U21s for giving us something to take pride in.

Johnston transfer saga to drag on
16 April 2012

The Seanie Johnston transfer saga is expected to rumble on for at least another week after it emerged that neither Cavan Gaels or Cavan county board have signed his latest transfer form.

Cavan Gaels had originally opted not to challenge Johnston's proposed move to St. Kevin's in Kildare when he first applied for a transfer in January. But they have now raised concerns over the player's permanent residency and the matter is now back in the hands of the Central Competitions Control Committee, who will not meet on the issue again until next Monday.

At Congress last weekend, delegates voted overwhelmingly in favour of changing the rules governing inter-county transfers. A player must now play championship football or hurling for their new club before they can play for their adopted county.

This means that Johnston will need to play championship football with St. Kevin's before he can declare for Kildare. St. Kevin's first game in the Kildare SFC won't be until mid-May - over a month before the Lilywhites are due to open their Leinster SFC campaign against Offaly on June 20.

Of course, there is still a possibility that the 27-year-old forward could stay with Cavan following the resignation of Val Andrews - who left him out of his squad last October - as manager last week.



Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on April 16, 2012, 07:13:41 PM
So Cavan Gaels are raising concerns now. Is this a laugh or what? Before they wouldn't stand in his way, presumably because they knew the Co board were going to anyway. So what has changed?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on April 16, 2012, 11:09:23 PM
Terry as Manager, Forde as Trainer. Four year term ratified tonight.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cogito on April 16, 2012, 11:15:13 PM
That 100% BooJ?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on April 16, 2012, 11:22:25 PM
Johnston could be left in limbo if the Kildare move doesn't go through. I don't think Terry Hyland would pick Johnston but you never know...
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on April 17, 2012, 09:14:22 AM
The very best of Luck to Terry and Anthony, I think it is a good appointment and well deserved by both although I think it probably should have been left until this season finished.

Lets hope they can get the same fighting spirit into the seniors as they have done with the U21's of the last 3 seasons. That is all I am looking for against Donegal, a bit of fight and pride and you never know where that might take you.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on April 17, 2012, 02:19:44 PM
From HS.

All Ireland Under 21 Ticketing Arrangements
17 April 2012

All Ireland Under 21 Ticketing Arrangements

On Saturday 21st April in Pearse Park, Longford, Cavan will take on Longford in the Cadbury All Ireland Under 21 semi-final at 4pm.

These are the ticketing arrangements that are in place.

The covered stand is all ticket and these are unreserved seats. Seats will be on a first come first serve basis. Stand tickets will not be on sale on the day.

Tickets are also available on the G.A.A. website.

Tickets will be available in Kingspan Breffni Park on the following days.
Tuesday 17th April - 10am. to 6pm.
Wednesday 18th April - 4pm. to 8pm.
Thursday 19th April - 10am. to 6pm.
Friday 20th April 10am to 8pm.
No sales after 8pm. on Friday 20th April.

Family tickets are available for the covered stand.

Adults €20         
Children up to 16 years €5 .
Senior Citizens (Covered Stand) €10
     
Terrace tickets are:
Adults €10   
Senior Citizens €10     
Students €10
Children up to 16 years are free on the terraces.

Season tickets and players passes are not valid for this fixture.

Please arrive early as a large crowd is expected.

The match will also be shown live on TG4
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on April 17, 2012, 04:51:44 PM
For those of us who won't make to Longford, it's Tynan time.

U21 semi loses out to Dublin-Galway replay for live TV
17 April 2012

The Allianz HL Division 1A relegation playoff replay between Dublin and Galway will be live on TG4 this Saturday, with the Cadbury All-Ireland U21FC semi-final between Cavan and Roscommon now to be shown on the TG4 website.

Originally the two Cadbury All-Ireland U21FC semi-finals were to receive live television coverage, with Cork and Dublin throwing in at 2pm and the Cavan-Roscommon game getting underway at 4pm.

The hurling replay, which ended in a 0-26 to 2-20 draw after extra time last Sunday, also starts at 4pm and a decision has been made to give it preference for live television ahead of the second U21FC semi-final.

Those who wish to watch the Cavan-Roscommon game can get live match coverage on www.tg4.tv.

There will also be extended coverage of that game on TG4 at 5.35pm on Saturday as part of the GAA BEO programme.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on April 17, 2012, 05:39:48 PM
What a crock of shit. Same as last year, show the game of the counties who will barely support the game. How many people will be in Portlaoise? SFA will be my guess. Dublin played the U21 AI Final in Breffni 2 years ago and brought about a quarter of the crowd that we brought to Brewster last Wednesday night.
Meanwhile two well supported counties hungry for exposure get shunted onto the TG4 website which will no doubt have shite streaming and look like it's being filmed on a fooking calculator.

I hope the Dubs hammer TG4's darling Galway and then they can go and show them playing in the second Division next year.

TG4: (http://ic2.pbase.com/o6/61/114161/1/86440245.DCgxtxm7.finger.gif)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on April 17, 2012, 06:27:34 PM
Im going to the game so i dont care but for people who cant make its unfair to advertise that its going to be shown and then pull the plug.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on April 17, 2012, 07:21:05 PM
Well tg4, im not watchin fheirm factor anymore
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: scoopmine on April 17, 2012, 08:08:20 PM
Terry Hyland on off the ball in about 40 mins....
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on April 17, 2012, 09:00:26 PM
Any of you lads going on saturday the game in now all ticket.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on April 17, 2012, 09:06:41 PM
Quote from: tommysmith on April 17, 2012, 09:00:26 PM
Any of you lads going on saturday the game in now all ticket.

Im going anyway.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on April 17, 2012, 11:16:44 PM
From HS.  Don't know how well they are going in Cavan.

fredrickwood
County: Roscommon
Posts: 2754

1154718  Roscommon sold out their allocation this afternoon.How are they selling in Cavan?
A limited number still available online I believe. 
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cogito on April 18, 2012, 10:52:27 AM
Very disappointed to game wont be on TV now as I am down in Wexford this weekend. Disaster.

What's people gut feeling with regards to Terry coming in? Will the panel remain unchanged or will there be some tweaking?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on April 18, 2012, 12:56:39 PM
I heard Terry Hyland on newstalk and he didn't seem that keen on getting johnston back. From reading hoganstand you would think he would have Johnston back on panel straight away but it wasn't like that. He said Johnston has pushed so far with the Kildare move that it would be hard for him to be involved. He said if he got back playing with the Gaels he might have some hope, but i think that would be if Johnston was to involved with Cavan next year. He has been set on playing for Kildare the last few months so it would look very strange tbh if it did happen ie being involved this year.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on April 18, 2012, 03:15:23 PM
Shame about TG4 but I can see why they're showing Dubs v Cork...both counties have a large urban centre and therefore a bigger audience to sell TV adverts to which means they can charge advertisers more and make some more cash. A commercial reality unfortunately but they have to make their money and cover costs somehow...
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on April 18, 2012, 05:23:27 PM
Quote from: Denn Forever on April 17, 2012, 11:16:44 PM
From HS.  Don't know how well they are going in Cavan.

fredrickwood
County: Roscommon
Posts: 2754

1154718  Roscommon sold out their allocation this afternoon.How are they selling in Cavan?
A limited number still available online I believe.

Please stop posting crap from Hoganstand.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on April 20, 2012, 06:54:08 PM
The very best of luck to our U21's tomorrow. Its going to be tough but I think if we play to our potential we can come out with a win. Everyone should make a big effort to get out and support the lads.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Ollie on April 21, 2012, 07:12:53 PM
Very disappointing result. Cavan didnt perform anywhere near their capabilities. Wasted a lot of possession throughout the game and didnt play with the passion and determination which they showed during the Ulster Championship.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on April 21, 2012, 07:43:15 PM
Mistakes were costly today.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tierworker blue on April 21, 2012, 07:46:24 PM
We never got going...pity, 'cause bad and all as we were, with 3 minutes left there was a result to be had. Ah well...
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on April 21, 2012, 09:02:30 PM
Pity but we seemed a bit out of it.  Best of luck to Roscommon.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on April 21, 2012, 09:11:03 PM
Hard luck to the U21s today, they've still done us proud but they will be disappointed they didn't play to their potential. I don't buy this "best team by far won" line. Roscommon played very negative tactics  and we also had a ref from Meath (a joke in itself, you can't have a ref from either province for fear of bias yet you can let a Meath p***k like that lad ref this game!!) who did not give Cavan fair play. Jack Brady hauled down for a blatant penalty when we were a goal up. Pulling one foul hand pass the whole game in the middle of a Cavan attack etc etc. Another disgraceful performance by a ref. Cavan really struggled to find their inside line due to the blanket defense. Saying this we dominated possession for the last 20 minutes. Turning point was a great goal chance miss from Lynch when we were a goal down, poor miss. Tierneys 2nd goal was class and I thought we might get a chance but an unfortunate error by the keeper won the game for Ros. In fairness to Ros they had a game plan and stuck to it and it worked well for them but for me if we played them tomorrow we'd beat them.

Anyone on the terrace today. What a kip of a terrace, can't see the near side line of the pitch.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: gortnaleck on April 21, 2012, 09:24:34 PM
Big Balla, join overplay.net
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Captain Obvious on April 21, 2012, 09:29:46 PM
In fairness Roscommon didn't defend much different than Cavan did during the Ulster championship. Their midfield,half backs were better than yours and seemed to want it more. To get only four scores in semi final is a poor return for Ulster champion and Cavan really can't have many complaints as they were beaten by the better side on the day.



Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on April 21, 2012, 10:24:06 PM
Quote from: hardstation on April 21, 2012, 10:10:23 PM
Hyland out??

Check out the hoganstand.com/cavan forum and ill bet some of those muppets are already sharpening tge knives
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on April 21, 2012, 10:30:10 PM
Very disappointing to go out in the manner we did today,but if you had told us we would have another Ulster under 21 title at the start of the year,we would have taken it.
A good year for the under 21's overall .
29 days to D-Day.
Lets hope Hyland can boost the seniors now.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on April 22, 2012, 11:34:29 AM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on April 21, 2012, 09:11:03 PM

Anyone on the terrace today. What a kip of a terrace, can't see the near side line of the pitch.

It's a kip alright and if you are not well over 6tft it was hard to see big areas in the corners.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on April 22, 2012, 11:58:18 AM
Ye should have got tickets for the stand... There was lots of stand tickets left when i got mine on friday. Ross were the better team yesterday. Cavan never looked convincing even when they were ahead early on. The first rosscommon goal came against the run of play as Cavan were in possesion but made a bad mistake which proved costly and they moved it up the field with pace and got a goal from it. Thought Connor Moynagh tried very hard and Dara Sexton was decent. Overall Cavan weren't good enough on the day. I can't see Ross beating Dublin, i can see Dublin doing to them but Galway did to us last year.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on April 22, 2012, 12:29:24 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on April 22, 2012, 11:58:18 AM
Ye should have got tickets for the stand... There was lots of stand tickets left when i got mine on friday.

In 2012 you would expect a county ground to have a decent view no matter where you are.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on April 22, 2012, 01:04:53 PM
Fair point.. in fairness looking over at the terrace i wasn't surprised to hear the view wasn't great. It was totally packed, not a patch on Breffni Park. Behind both goals being cut off for spectators it wouldn't have helped.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cogito on April 22, 2012, 01:18:18 PM
Ah well we got another good run for our money this year. Sad to bow out with just 2-2 but sure that's the way it goes sometimes I suppose.

Couldn't make it yesterday but saw a bit online. Would people on here be expecting many boys to make the step up to the seniors now?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on April 22, 2012, 01:29:43 PM
I'm struggling to see who could make the step up to Senior from this side.. Packie Leddy could make a case for inclusion in our half forward line perhaps and Jack Brady could be a good option coming off the bench. We have a few good young defenders in Clarke and Moynagh but neither are ready for Senior Football yet. While Kevin Tierney was our top scorer this Championship and got 2 goals yesterday I don't think he has the mobility to play Senior.

So apart from Packie and Jack I don't see anyone else being called up to the Senior Squad. Oh and Barry Reilly too if his injury clears up.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on April 22, 2012, 01:38:29 PM
Paddy King would probaly be worth a look for the senior panel. He  never started for the u21's like last year so its hard to judge him that much but he looked decent coming off the bench. I think Packie Leddy is slightly overrated. He gets billed up alot but he has always look ordinary from when ive seen him. He could still be worth a shot for the senior panel as he has ability but would need to show it more. Barry Reilly would be a cert for the seniors - big loss yesterday.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: scoopmine on April 25, 2012, 12:48:17 PM
Hoping the lads are putting in the work. A few important players like Keating G Mac t come back to give us a boost.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: scoopmine on April 27, 2012, 03:23:22 PM
James McEnroe was told to go to his club, Patrick Carroll is enlisted with the army now , Alan O'Mara is injured and Darragh Tighe I'm not sure about!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on April 28, 2012, 06:25:28 PM
Paddy King is going away travelling for the summer so he won't be involved. He was also carrying an injury hence why he wasn't starting the games for the U21.

Good to see the Celt call a spade a spade and rightly point out how biased the Meath ref was in the U21 game.

So, now to the seniors. Anyone know how its going in there since Forde went in. Rumour has it some lads were asked back in that were not involved in the league but not sure who and whether they accepted or not. According to that muppet RichieJ over on HS, Lyng was asked and refused which of course have Richie a horn straight away. You know he is going to fill his togs with excitement if Donegal beat us.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cogito on April 28, 2012, 07:02:22 PM
Just went over and had a look at the Hoganstand. How people can be criticising or questioning Hyland's motives is a disgrace in my book. The man has done more for Cavan football than any manager since McHugh.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on April 28, 2012, 10:25:54 PM
Richie has the knives out for Hyland already. Hyland will have more wit than Andrews and will not even acknowledge such bullshit. It's horrible to see though. I'm sure if he's taken to task over it Richie will say Hyland will be judged on his results. ie: We want instant success, and even then any wins we do get will be down to the lack of quality of the opposition.

Things aren't looking great, loads of injuries for Donegal with Gearoid and Givney (who was in hospital during the week with a back injury according to twitter) two huge losses. And even then next year's league looks like the toughest Div 3 in years. Nobody there we could say we should be beating.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cogito on April 28, 2012, 10:35:36 PM
Gearoid and Givney out? Do we have any other midfielders????

How do you think we will look by the time Donegal come around?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on April 29, 2012, 12:22:51 PM
I thought Mckiernan would be back in time for the Donegal game.. if he is ruled out and if Givney is apparently out aswell then its Goodnight Vienna.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Ollie on April 29, 2012, 04:55:45 PM
Donegal's league campaign wasn't much better than ours all be it that they were playing in a higher division. Also Murphy isn't expected to be fit for them so it might give our lads a bit more incentive and belief on the day.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on April 29, 2012, 05:56:44 PM
I see Johnston was in the Kildare dugout today. Also, Mickey Brennan tweeted that he was informed Thursday night that his inter county career was over so there must be cuts from the panel. Sorry to see Mickey go though, a good lad.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: PhilsJemmysField on April 30, 2012, 05:44:10 PM
Has Johnston transfer being confirmed

Think a good few of the U21 lads were called into the senior squad. All we can do is hope really
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cogito on May 02, 2012, 09:59:43 AM
New Cavan senior boss Terry Hyland wasted no time in making changes to his senior panel, releasing six players last week and calling up six more.
Michael Brennan, Sean McCormack, Ciaran Galligan, Declan Meehan, Colm Courtney and James McDonald have all parted company with the panel as the new manager seeks to get plans in place for the Donegal clash in Kingspan Breffni Park on May 20.

And experienced defender John McCutcheon, who left the panel in early February after receiving no game time under Val Andrews, has been recalled along with five members of the successful Ulster U21-winning team, namely Jason McLoughlin, Jack Brady, Killian Clarke, Feargal Flanagan and Kevin Tierney.

Tierney scored 3-18 in four matches for the U21s while defender Clarke was Cavan's man of the match in the 2011 Ulster MFC final and this year's provincial U21 decider.


Read more: http://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/gaa/new-boss-hyland-wields-axe-in-cavan-192508.html#ixzz1thWpHidc
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on May 02, 2012, 01:55:03 PM
Surprised to see McLoughlin and Clarke called in. McLoughlin especially is very light, the thoughts of either of them marking Murphy, McBrearty or McFadden doesn't inspire much hope. That said, the experience of being involved with the squad will do them no harm.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: PhilsJemmysField on May 03, 2012, 02:13:18 PM
Cavan's Michael Brennan has wished the county team all the best after he was cut from the panel this week.

The Drumalee footballer, who hails from Co Meath has been part of the squad for the past six years, but this week was told by new manager Terry Hyland that he was surplus to requirements.

Brennan has no regrets from his time with Cavan and he believes that Hyland is the man to bring the Ulster side forward.

"It's going to be disappointing, they're a great bunch of lads but I an 100% behind Terry, I have the utmost respect for him," Brennan explained to the Anglo-Celt.

"I know it wasn't an easy phone call for him to make, he even said to me on the phone 'I know how much this means to you and how much you love playing for Cavan', but just the couple of injuries that I picked up, he says 'we won't have you ready for four weeks time.

"I wouldn't regret any of it, It's been the most amazing journey and the time of my life and it's been such an honour to get the a chance to wear the jersey."

Fair play if you are being cut at least go down with a bit of respect
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on May 03, 2012, 03:22:28 PM
Quote from: PhilsJemmysField on May 03, 2012, 02:13:18 PM
Cavan's Michael Brennan has wished the county team all the best after he was cut from the panel this week.

The Drumalee footballer, who hails from Co Meath has been part of the squad for the past six years, but this week was told by new manager Terry Hyland that he was surplus to requirements.

Brennan has no regrets from his time with Cavan and he believes that Hyland is the man to bring the Ulster side forward.

"It's going to be disappointing, they're a great bunch of lads but I an 100% behind Terry, I have the utmost respect for him," Brennan explained to the Anglo-Celt.

"I know it wasn't an easy phone call for him to make, he even said to me on the phone 'I know how much this means to you and how much you love playing for Cavan', but just the couple of injuries that I picked up, he says 'we won't have you ready for four weeks time.

"I wouldn't regret any of it, It's been the most amazing journey and the time of my life and it's been such an honour to get the a chance to wear the jersey."

Fair play if you are being cut at least go down with a bit of respect

I've always liked Michael Brennan as a player (without ever knowing him) and he has gone up further in my estimation now. If only some others had his attitude!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on May 03, 2012, 03:48:17 PM
Mickey Brennan leased a pub in my neck of the woods a few years back. A class act and a gent to his fingertips in any dealings I had with him. Sorry to see him go, I have no doubt he was a good influence within the panel. He probably wasn't given a fair run at things, deserved to play more than he did in the past 2 years in my opinion. Thanks for the efforts Mickey and fair play for bowing out whilst showing respect to the supporters and to Cavan.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on May 07, 2012, 11:20:04 PM
I obviously echo the opinions of Phil, Westside and Myles regarding Mickey. Always gave 100% for Cavan no matter where he was played and was always delighted to just be involved. He was a late developer, having not played much football when he was younger but I reckon he could have made an outstanding full-forward for Cavan had he been playing there earlier. We seen glimpes of it 2 years ago but unfortunately we never got to see his full potential IMO. Still one of the top midfielders in the county, knowing Mickey he could still be playing for Drumalee in 5 or 6 years.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: CC1 on May 08, 2012, 01:55:30 PM
Totally agree, Mickey is a gent and a great personality.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on May 08, 2012, 03:01:36 PM
He is a sound fella and a good player. Don't know why they never gave him a run in midfield. He was always play with there with his Club. Even this year when Mckiernan got injured he was never given a run. He was good a servant for Cavan football.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Ollie on May 08, 2012, 06:54:41 PM
Always thought brennan was never given enough game time. Dont think full forward ever suited him. He made a big sacrafice leaving his home club and commiting to drumalee and cavan. Goes to show a change of scenery can prosper some footballers.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: TheThirdManning on May 08, 2012, 07:55:44 PM
Would agree that I was suprised he never got  chance for Cavan in and around the middle. Especially considering after McKiernan and Givney we literally have nobody!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: scoopmine on May 10, 2012, 02:32:41 PM
Looks like time is running out for the Seanie transfer. If it does not go through he will jet off for the summer.

Open night for the county tomorrow. Heard nothing about preperations hoping we have a gameplan and give Donegal a lash!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on May 10, 2012, 02:59:30 PM
Quote from: scoopmine on May 10, 2012, 02:32:41 PM
Looks like time is running out for the Seanie transfer. If it does not go through he will jet off for the summer.

Open night for the county tomorrow. Heard nothing about preperations hoping we have a gameplan and give Donegal a lash!

Surely as an integral part of the Kildare panel, as evident from him parading around croke park with them after the League final, he would stay the course and train with them for the rest of the summer?

As for Donegal, we live in hope but I can't see how we can win this game. I just hope the lads do their best and as you say we play to some sort of sensible plan.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: takeyorpints on May 10, 2012, 04:59:03 PM
I've been a reader here for a while and was going to wait until the Sean Johnston saga was over before I posted. But this mylestheslasher gets right up my nose with his sniping posts about Sean. Secondly mylestheslasher it seems every one here has to agree with your point all the time. What's that all about? Let me tell you one thing. Don't post about something you no NOTHING about. The amount of garbage you have written about Sean Johnston and Cavan Gaels is unreal. Have you proof the Gaels are objecting to the transfer or is it just crap you read in the papers? Who told you from the Gaels? Post fact mylestheslasher not hearsay. Your like a broken record moaning about Sean Johnston and in fact your so far off the Mark your making a total idiot of yourself . Your a clown and your bitterness towards Sean makes you look a bigger clown. Concentrate on what you think you know about . Leave the Sean Johnston saga to Sean Johnston. It's actually none of your business what he does. Now your cronies can all come on one by one and back you up. You are the king of the Cavan thread or so you like to think you are. Do you even go to the games? Dipstick!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on May 10, 2012, 05:38:52 PM
Quote from: takeyorpints on May 10, 2012, 04:59:03 PM
I've been a reader here for a while and was going to wait until the Sean Johnston saga was over before I posted. But this mylestheslasher gets right up my nose with his sniping posts about Sean. Secondly mylestheslasher it seems every one here has to agree with your point all the time. What's that all about? Let me tell you one thing. Don't post about something you no NOTHING about. The amount of garbage you have written about Sean Johnston and Cavan Gaels is unreal. Have you proof the Gaels are objecting to the transfer or is it just crap you read in the papers? Who told you from the Gaels? Post fact mylestheslasher not hearsay. Your like a broken record moaning about Sean Johnston and in fact your so far off the Mark your making a total idiot of yourself . Your a clown and your bitterness towards Sean makes you look a bigger clown. Concentrate on what you think you know about . Leave the Sean Johnston saga to Sean Johnston. It's actually none of your business what he does. Now your cronies can all come on one by one and back you up. You are the king of the Cavan thread or so you like to think you are. Do you even go to the games? Dipstick!

Thanks for that contribution Seanie.
Love
King Myles
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Ollie on May 10, 2012, 07:17:41 PM
Seanie will be better off with Kildare, the Gaels will still continue to dominate the championship, and things cant get any worse for the Cavan seniors so that can only improve (slowly). My point is whether you support Johnston or in myles case begrudge him, it doesnt matter. Things will be the same regardless if he's in Cavan or Kildare.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on May 10, 2012, 07:51:35 PM
Quote from: Ollie on May 10, 2012, 07:17:41 PM
Seanie will be better off with Kildare, the Gaels will still continue to dominate the championship, and things cant get any worse for the Cavan seniors so that can only improve (slowly). My point is whether you support Johnston or in myles case begrudge him, it doesnt matter. Things will be the same regardless if he's in Cavan or Kildare.

Ollie - Begrudge him? Wrong word. I don't envy Sean Johnston in fact he represents everything that I dislike in parts of sport. If you go back you will see I have praised his performances in some games when warranted but its his attitude that stinks and this whole episode just proves that even further. I am a great admirer of many fine county footballers throughout ireland who have achieved much more than Johnston so to suggest begrudgery is nonsense.

I also believe that Cavan senior footballers will improve quicker without Sean Johnston because they will be forced to play as a team and Johnston never played as a team player. Its very noticable not one current co player has come out in the papers in support of him, only a few of his former comrades like Nicholas Walsh. We will take some pain in the short term, there is no question, but we have to start somewhere. We've the right man in charge and good young players so I am hopeful in time that will reap results. 2012 through is unlikely to see that improvement unfortunately.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Swadman on May 10, 2012, 09:07:52 PM
Spoke to a few Fermanagh lads after their defeat to Wicklow. even the "Great One" couldn't pull that miracle. One man made a lot of sense though. He said "Peter will get the best out of the squad he has, 100% plus, but  they are not good enough to go too far." Everyone in Fermanagh knows their limitations but are happy with each man giving his best and then some.
I though it was a refreshing bit of honesty and clarity of his county's position.
As I commiserated I suggested we (Cavan) were in the same boat. He pointed out we should be looking forward with a little more optimism because of the recent minor and U-21 triumphs. If we can work with these young lads and encourage them and above all be patient, not looking for instant senior success all the time.
The point is "look forward." There is no magic wand for instant success. Yes there will be a tough year (or two ahead) but if the "Richies" of the world are patient and give these young lads time to mature then the future can be blue.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on May 10, 2012, 09:40:20 PM
Quote from: Swadman on May 10, 2012, 09:07:52 PM
Spoke to a few Fermanagh lads after their defeat to Wicklow. even the "Great One" couldn't pull that miracle. One man made a lot of sense though. He said "Peter will get the best out of the squad he has, 100% plus, but  they are not good enough to go too far." Everyone in Fermanagh knows their limitations but are happy with each man giving his best and then some.
I though it was a refreshing bit of honesty and clarity of his county's position.
As I commiserated I suggested we (Cavan) were in the same boat. He pointed out we should be looking forward with a little more optimism because of the recent minor and U-21 triumphs. If we can work with these young lads and encourage them and above all be patient, not looking for instant senior success all the time.
The point is "look forward." There is no magic wand for instant success. Yes there will be a tough year (or two ahead) but if the "Richies" of the world are patient and give these young lads time to mature then the future can be blue.

People need to remember Donal Keoghans reign and all the talk about lads on the piss before games, the lack of dedication etc while all the other counties with ambition were taking preperation to another level. We all wanted a clear out and to go with dedicated lads who wanted to give everything. Thats what has been delivered now and we must stay the course and not pine for guys that are no longer there. Cavan have won nothing for a long time so the notion that there are an array of superstars somewhere in the county and that big bad managers won't call them up is ridiculous. We are what we are and as your friend in Fermanagh said all we can ask is that these lads play to the maximum of their ability and the supporters need to give them the time to develop. The problem is the Richies of this world don't want to wait, they want to knock decent young footballers. These young lads from the past 3 years of U21 teams are a new generation and are ambitious and dedicated and they don't deserve that.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on May 11, 2012, 02:42:51 AM
Agreed fully Myles. It's stupidity to repeat the same short-term approach year after year and expect anything other than the same results...shambolic mediocrity, unrest on the panel and a lack of commitment. Some people can't see past that.

We'll just have to strap ourselves in for a bumpy ride and hope the minors and U21s can keep producing, and that our senior setup is now a good one.

I guess all this makes me one of your cronies now, right?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on May 11, 2012, 11:10:22 AM
Was a full panel named for the Championship yet? It was a good move getting John McCutcheon back, he should never have been let go in the first place. Eugene Keating is playing well with his club he was a big miss during the league after getting the injury against Sligo. Not sure about Georid Mckiernan being fit but Givney should be able to play. I would leave Mckeever centre forward he played very well there when he was given the chance in the league. I expect a better performance than last year but don't think we will have enough to beat Donegal.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: takeyorpints on May 11, 2012, 11:32:50 AM
Keating was tried centre half back against Letrim last week in a challenge and McCutcheon at midfield. Up the middle must be a worry after been cut open in league games especially the Antrim game. Crazy that it's taken til 3 weeks before the championship to experiment with a new centre half back. Shades of this time last year all over again in the build up. Can't understand how so called managers and selectors can't get together at the start of the year with player they want to see as the spine of the team. It's so make it up as you go along. Then again it always has been that way in Cavan. Anyway I hope you all will attend tonight's open day. Be nice to make the players feel like county players for an hour or so even though they miles from that aim. Let's go get a few autographs., clap a few backs, maybe the messiah will fill the cup with ballygowan!!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on May 11, 2012, 11:52:19 AM
If McCutcheon is being tried at midfield does that leave trying Givney or Gearoid in full forward or is it calculating for the loss of Gearoid? Keating at centre half back might not be a bad shout. He's big and aggressive and capable of getting the ball long and accurately into our forward line.

Takeyorpints you are aware that this is a new management team? Also, if Hyland didn't try to change what almost got us relegated in the league would you be moaning about sticking with a formula that's not working? I'd bet so.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on May 11, 2012, 12:02:45 PM
I wouldn't be that confident of Keating as a centre back.. He was tried there in Tommy Carrs first year and he looked lost in my opinion. I think it was maybe more that Niall Lynch was a selector at the time and he played once or twice there that year with Cuchulainns in that position. Forward/midfield suits him but not beyond that. I think he is one of the most talented players we have, he showed in glimpses last year that he is a quality player. Leave Pauric Reilly at centre half unless he is out injured.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: takeyorpints on May 11, 2012, 01:11:42 PM
I think mckiernan might be out so maybe that's the thinking behind McCutcheon at midfield. Dunne probably won't make it either. Meehan seems to have been switched back to the half back line under Hyland.im sure that's a good move especially against Donegal. I feel there's a certain team and system we could use to beat Donegal in a one off game. Not necessarily be our best team but it can be done. Hyland using maloney-Derham and Meehan as wing half backs means he seems to want them to break at pace . That's fine if you can either draw the foul or score from distance or have more importantly players playing off the shoulder of these two who can score or draw the foul.a very disciplined performance can beat Donegal. No back chat no stupid yellow cards for pulling a dragging and definitely no red cards. Discipline has cost us more this past few years as much as wayward shooting.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on May 11, 2012, 06:39:23 PM
Cavan will just have to get men behind the ball and give Donegal a bit of their own medicine. If you play that way then I wouldn't be as worried about the backs as I would about the forwards. If we are going to try and turn them over and get the ball into the forwards quickly then we will need a ball winner or two in the FF line and that's where we have the problem. Is Tierney going to be able for it - not against an animal like Neil McGee imo. Maybe Cullivan could do a job in there. He is a player who had so much potential but just has gone backwards for some reason but maybe in there with a simple job to win dirty ball and lay it off then maybe he could produce the goods. McDermott did well last year against Donegal so I suppose he could be in there too. I think it will just be hard to get the scores.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: takeyorpints on May 11, 2012, 07:56:44 PM
Mylestheslasher... If your going to beat Donegal well midfield doesn't come into it. When did you ever see Donegal beating any1 dominating the middle of the field. As I said in my previous post. Break at pace. Draw the foul or as you say kick the long range score.play the "off the shoulder" stuff and have half forwards willing to support the attacking half backs. f**k this sweeper crap we tried last year. Let Donegal worry how we play. f**k how they play.we are in control. We are the underage kingpins. It's our call. That's the mentality we need to portrait. Have we got a man able to protrait that mentality? NO!! None of toms men are up to the task!!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on May 11, 2012, 08:22:07 PM
So Cavan should go man to man against McBrearty and McFadden? Interesting.

And when we are bet you'll be on crying about tactical naivety i suppose.

btw - Toms men have won 2 U21 Ulster titles and 1 Ulster minor. What has anyone else done in the last 30 years. Why don't you declare what your chip on the shoulder is with Hyland??
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: takeyorpints on May 11, 2012, 10:20:24 PM
With th new square ball rule we have no choice but go man to man with mcbrearty, McFadden and more importantly murphy. Our plus can be our speed in our half backline. And Mark McHugh is the main danger man. He's the "Greg Blaney" of Donegal football. You keep McHugh quiet you keep Donegal quiet. Lads we have had 2 years to pull off a masterstroke. No excuses.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: takeyorpints on May 11, 2012, 10:35:18 PM
And myles as you asked I've no problem with Hyland. After seeing 1 ulster title in 42 years I can hack another 4 years with the so called messiah. Gladly. Because when his 4 years are up and added to his 4/5 as a selector/ joint manager he will finaly be banished to the club football management and be resigned to trying to beat the Gaels as his next great achievement.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on May 11, 2012, 10:40:40 PM
When has anyone called Hyland the messiah? The best Cavan man for the job by some distance, that's the only thing anyone has said.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: takeyorpints on May 11, 2012, 11:12:54 PM
Quote from: Westside on May 11, 2012, 10:40:40 PM
When has anyone called Hyland the messiah? The best Cavan man for the job by some distance, that's the only thing anyone has said.

And what would i ask would make him the best cavan man for the job??
If it was the u21 win of 2011 why did he not get the Senior job alone instead of stepping down and letting Val have it??
Maybe that was because he was prepared to let Val sink on his own and then step in.
Is it concidence that talk of a players vote of confidence in Val was leaked to the media and the CB did nothing to dispell this rumour until Val had resigned.
Is there any coincidence that Forde and The Co Chairman originate from the same club?
Is there any coincidence that a prospective selector originates from the same club as the present paid Co Secretary Mr McCabe?
Tom Reilly rushed through the joint Managership of VA and TH on the 27th of august 2010. Then he santioned the single managership of VA on sept 2011. Then he proposed the managership of TH and his townie sidekick GFORDE a FEW MONTHS AGO. sO WHEN DOES OUR TOM GET IT RIGHT??? HOW MANY CHANCES DO OUR CLUBS GIVE THIS CHANCE?? IS HE LOOKING FOR 4 YEARS LIKE TH?? ALL QUESTIONS THAT CAVAN FOOTBALL NEED TO ANSWER
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on May 11, 2012, 11:52:11 PM
Calling Mark McCugh a Grey Blayney figure is bit a bit far,. I didn't see Blayney playing as i would have been young at the time but heard he was a top player and saw a few videos. Mchugh runs all day like an African sprinter without any end product. Your a bit harsh on Terry Hyland, if Andrews hadn't made so many c**k ups this year he would still be in the Job. Hyland was the best man for the job. Mickey Graham with all the talk of him being a Top manager had 3 years with the Cavan minors and done nothing - Hyland had 3 years and 2 ulster wins and a runner up. The first year in 2010 they were without Keating, Watters and Murray for the whole championship so it could easily have been a treble of U21 wins. And so what if he has been a while with Cavan, he will have enough knowledge with dealing with players and nurturing in the younger players. Rome wasn't built in a day ffs. Like Cavan were really going to get Joe Kernan or Tony Mcentee dream on - we are where we are.. 4 years time Cavan could well be a top team in Ulster show a bit of faith.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on May 12, 2012, 12:04:40 AM
Takeyorpints tell me what other manager within Cavan is more qualified and has won as much as Terry Hyland??

Under the current County Chairman we have won 3 Ulster titles within 12 months. Two of these titles were attributed to the support of the county board by them management. Undeniable facts there.

Are you Richie in another guise by the way?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: takeyorpints on May 12, 2012, 08:16:36 AM
Look westside I'm not Richie in disguise or anybody else. Do I question who you are? Time will tell whether Hyland is the best man for the job. It's the players that are stepping up I'm more concerned about not Hyland I firmly believe some of them are not good enough. More worrying is some have stepped up from u21 since late 2010 and they have not improved one bit. That's a worrying factor that no one seems to mention. Sometimes a freshness of ideas from a different coach is needed. Tell me this if munroe of Tyrone had of won the last 2 u21 titles in ulster would ppl of Cavan be happy if he got the Cavan senior job? Just let's see terrys masterplan to beat Donegal. After all he has had 2 years watching them close up.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on May 12, 2012, 08:30:05 AM
So pretty much hylands cavan team must defeat donegal, last years ulster champions and all Ireland semi finalists or he will be a failure. After 4 weeks in charge! Jesus would you listen to yourself. Is it a coincidence forde and tom reilly are from the same club, what's that suppose to mean? Btw. I didn't mention Murphy as he is unlikely to play due to injury.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: CC1 on May 12, 2012, 08:47:40 AM
Take it easy takeyorpints. Just support the team and less of the negativity. Too many people in this county love to try to play "Football Manager" with the Cavan team. The team is good enough, people just have to have faith in them. You have to remember that in the early stages of each game in the league and McKenna Cup Cavan (bar maybe Wexford and Antrim) led only to fall away at the end. If this can be worked on then who knows what we can do?

Terry will know his best team better than anybody in the county as he is at training every night. Have a bit of trust in him and the team. They deserve more for the commitment and effort they put in.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on May 12, 2012, 11:16:38 AM
Time will not tell whether he is the best man for the Cavan job right now. Every decision is easy to make in hindsight. You claimed he is not the best man in Cavan for the job. Back that up and say why? Name the Cavan man with a better management record. dd

And why is a plan to beat Donegal the be all and end all? We know how he is going to try do it, he has said as much himself already. The matter of fact is that Donegal are vastly more experienced and play at a higher level than we do. Tactics didn't lose us the game v Donegal last year, even if they didn't help. Donegal are simply a better side and it will take a phenomenal effort and a huge slice of luck to beat them.

Hyland has a few years to get us somewhere. He did it with Lavey and with our U21s for the past 3 years when he was the Number 1. If he can make us competitive again at Senior Level he will be a Cavan Great. Best of luck to him.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: takeyorpints on May 12, 2012, 12:17:19 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on May 12, 2012, 08:30:05 AM
So pretty much hylands cavan team must defeat donegal, last years ulster champions and all Ireland semi finalists or he will be a failure. After 4 weeks in charge! Jesus would you listen to yourself. Is it a coincidence forde and tom reilly are from the same club, what's that suppose to mean? Btw. I didn't mention Murphy as he is unlikely to play due to injury.

Donegal are so beatable because they been playing the same system this last 2 years. granted they have become slightly more attack minded this year, but only slightly. There is always shocks in the Ulster Championship.
Mark my words but Armagh WILL beat Tyrone at home in the first round.
No they are not a better team than Tyrone BUT they WILL have their homework done on Tyrone this past 7 months for this particular game. Watch and see ane quote this post if it doesnt happen.

Yes we are not as good as Donegal BUT surely after 2 years we can devise a plan to beat them on the day. Its whats called good team management pulling off the odd masterstroke especially with 2 years to plan it
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on May 12, 2012, 12:27:05 PM
Quote from: takeyorpints on May 12, 2012, 12:17:19 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on May 12, 2012, 08:30:05 AM
So pretty much hylands cavan team must defeat donegal, last years ulster champions and all Ireland semi finalists or he will be a failure. After 4 weeks in charge! Jesus would you listen to yourself. Is it a coincidence forde and tom reilly are from the same club, what's that suppose to mean? Btw. I didn't mention Murphy as he is unlikely to play due to injury.

Donegal are so beatable because they been playing the same system this last 2 years. granted they have become slightly more attack minded this year, but only slightly. There is always shocks in the Ulster Championship.
Mark my words but Armagh WILL beat Tyrone at home in the first round.
No they are not a better team than Tyrone BUT they WILL have their homework done on Tyrone this past 7 months for this particular game. Watch and see ane quote this post if it doesnt happen.

Yes we are not as good as Donegal BUT surely after 2 years we can devise a plan to beat them on the day. Its whats called good team management pulling off the odd masterstroke especially with 2 years to plan it

Cavan had a goal, right or wrong, to focus on the league this year. I don't think hatching a 8 month plan to beat Donegal was on the agenda (draw was made in October so don't know where your 2 years is coming out of). There is a new man in charge, he has been in charge for 4/5 weeks. Yes, it is possible we could win but it is not likely and it is grossly unfair to expect a manager to take responsibility for a result when he has taken over in these circumstances. You give me the impression of someone who would be delighted if Cavan were hammered so you could post with glee about how it was all Hylands fault and it would have been different if Seanie Johnson was begged back into the panel. I'll be judging Hylands quality as a senior manager on whether he gets an improvement next year, for me any success at senior this year is a bonus, but I wish them well and hope they do the business.

One final thing - Armagh beating Tyrone is hardly the same as Cavan beating Donegal for christ sake.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: takeyorpints on May 12, 2012, 12:54:18 PM
Mylestheslasher Hyland has been involved in some capacity for the last 4/5 years so this is not new to him. Your obsession with Sean Johnston makes it difficult to take your posts and points seriously. Where have I mentioned him in my last post. Your really need to get a grip with that "Seanie " obsession you have. Surely there is some kind of therapy you could get? Or have you tried seeing a councillor ? Maybe best if you approached Sean himself and got the full load down? You can't seem to post with out mentioning him in some form? This whole Seanie process could damage your mind in later life if you don't get this obsession under control. I think you even hoped the Gaels won ulster club now that he is not with them. And for a non Gaels man to wish or hope that is bordering madness!!! Get your self checked out mylestheslasher. I fear the worse for you if Seanie gets any where near Croke park!! You will need a new 42 inch!!!!!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on May 12, 2012, 01:11:33 PM
So takeyorpints would you say that Tipperary should be beating Kerry? They have also had 2 years to plan for the game, if they don't beat Kerry would you slate the management?

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on May 12, 2012, 01:14:04 PM
Not one point in my post addressed and westside asked you a question twice which you also failed to address. You are a waffler my friend. I'd have loved to see the Gaels win Ulster any year, it would be good for cavan football so you can drop the siege mentality complex.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: takeyorpints on May 12, 2012, 01:44:02 PM
Quote from: Westside on May 12, 2012, 01:11:33 PM
So takeyorpints would you say that Tipperary should be beating Kerry? They have also had 2 years to plan for the game, if they don't beat Kerry would you slate the management?
.         Never mentioned Kerry, Tipperary. What I'm saying is Armagh will beat Tyrone simply because their season has been geared to that aim. We could beat Donegal if we step up to the Mark because I don't see Donegal as a major powerhouse even in ulster. They play to a gameplan. It hasn't won them any admirers but they happy with it. It will be interesting to see Hylands tactics regardless of the end result. Last years joint managers tactics for that particular game were way off the Mark.Hyland has to take some responsibly for those tactics last year. Let's see what he has learned within a year regarding how to play Donegal. Regardless of the end result let's see how he sets his stall out. That in itself will tell if he has the makings of an intercounty manager. The result is irrelevant in the short term . Bottom line he needs a better game plan than he was part of last year. Let's wait and see
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on May 12, 2012, 02:03:45 PM
I'm making a comparison, Cavan are massive underdogs against Donegal, Tipp are massive underdogs against Kerry. Whether you see Donegal as a powerhouse is irrelevant, no matter what your opinion of them they are defending Ulster Champions playing Div 1 football. So I'll ask again: You seem ready and willing to slate Cavan and Hyland if they lose to Donegal. Would you slate Tipp and their new manager for not beating Kerry? It's the same difference is it not?

So Hyland's tactics for this one game will tell whether he has the makings of an intercounty manager?? One game makes you a bad manager or a good manager now does it?
Wise up. We are miles behind Donegal. No managerial masterstroke will bridge the 2 Division gap all of a sudden. Hyland has already said how we will play, it will be the same tactics as the Donegal U21 game last year.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: TheThirdManning on May 12, 2012, 02:39:53 PM
Can some people not just go support the team and hope for the best on the day? Nobody should be expecting Cavan to beat Donegal at this moment in time. Doesn't mean you cannot go and compete and asses where Cavan are at the minute.

Nearly every county in the country will be jealous of the breakthrough Cavan have made in recent years at underage level. Give it time.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on May 12, 2012, 03:41:17 PM
Exactly TTM. We will go to Breffni tomorrow week hoping we can pull something off but with no expectation. All I want to see is an effort to go at Donegal, not go out to limit a hammering. If we don't let them waltz through us at the back, if we show some innovation in the forwards, show a bit of fighting spirit and make it hard for Donegal, stick with them for a while at least, I'll be happy enough.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: takeyorpints on May 12, 2012, 04:41:08 PM
Westside I wouldn't slate Cavan for not beating Donegal but I expect them to put up one he'll of a better show than they did last year in both their championship games. Otherwise yes questions will be asked of certain players who have been ever present this past 2 years. With regard to tipp v Kerry tipp are working on the back of 1 minor success . So that's alot different to our underage success since 2010 ulster final defeat. Yes it's time some of these lads stepped up and proved and showed they have the makings of future intercounty footballers. Lads like McDermott, Fitzpatrick,Meehan,smith have shown no cut about them whatesoever since they became involved at senior level. McDermott for shuch a big man is very one dimensional as to what he can do. In short he is adair of his shite and is a big disappointment .
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on May 12, 2012, 04:50:52 PM
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Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: TheThirdManning on May 12, 2012, 05:02:16 PM
Quote from: takeyorpints on May 12, 2012, 04:41:08 PM
Westside I wouldn't slate Cavan for not beating Donegal but I expect them to put up one he'll of a better show than they did last year in both their championship games. Otherwise yes questions will be asked of certain players who have been ever present this past 2 years. With regard to tipp v Kerry tipp are working on the back of 1 minor success . So that's alot different to our underage success since 2010 ulster final defeat. Yes it's time some of these lads stepped up and proved and showed they have the makings of future intercounty footballers. Lads like McDermott, Fitzpatrick,Meehan,smith have shown no cut about them whatesoever since they became involved at senior level. McDermott for shuch a big man is very one dimensional as to what he can do. In short he is adair of his shite and is a big disappointment .

Good man that what a young lad needs to hear as he tries to find his feet at Senior level. The lad is 21 or 22. Give him a chance. Why do you even bother supporting a team with an attitude like that?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: takeyorpints on May 12, 2012, 05:19:32 PM
Mcderrmott has Ben in the senior team for the last 2 years. He needs to step up and take that "afraid " look off himself. He has been ever present. Never dropped , rarely substituted. And no improvement whatsoever. His average return per game is 0-2 and half that is frees. We can't afford passengers like that. Mcbrearty of Donegal is 4/5 years younger than McDermott and there a bit of cutting about him. He not afraid . McDermott is afraid of his shite . That can be seen in every ball he half heartily goes for. Looking around him expecting the clatter on the back of the head. Just can't talk these players up if they not up to scratch. Change things. Use him as an impact sub til he gains confidence. Take Meehan. Been used as a forward, back, runner, first player taken off, always replaced by Murray. I'm sure he looks at the sideline sees Murray warming up and 9/10 tomes knows he is being replaced. These lads don't know if they are coming or going. As a player on the county panel said to me last night " it's chaos, I feel like packing it in only I've put so much into it since November, I may as well stick it another month. But that's it, ain't interested ever again getting involved with a bunch of players that half are so far up their own arseholes it's unreal." so things haven't changed much it seems
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: TheThirdManning on May 12, 2012, 05:24:09 PM
McDermott is still 21. How you can talk about one of the better young players in the county in recent years is beyond me. You are some boy and I hope you are never within ear shot of me at a game.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on May 12, 2012, 05:53:07 PM
You come on here slating me and now you have shown what a brainless low life you are. Maybe you should f**k off and start supporting kildare.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on May 12, 2012, 06:27:46 PM
Tipp are not just working off the back of 1 Minor success. They won Munster U21 in 2010. So since 2010 we have the same amount of trophies as Tipp at underage level. You don't have a clue what you are talking about.

Myles is right. You are a terrible supporter, signed on to stand up for Johnston and then moved to abusing Niall McDermott. It's assholes like you that don't deserve to see any success.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: takeyorpints on May 12, 2012, 06:55:39 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on May 12, 2012, 05:53:07 PM
You come on here slating me and now you have shown what a brainless low life you are. Maybe you should f**k off and start supporting kildare.
.    There you go still obsessed by Seanie and Kildare.. You don't like it when anyone here goes against your sacred opinion. You been slated on the main board when you tried your 2 pence worth about Johnston. Do you even go to the games?how many senior games were you at in a year? Tipical Internet poster with nearly 5000 posts putting Cavan football to right! Proper sit on the fence clown. Your club probably never won f**k all. Your an arsehole who don't like anyone disagreeing with you or your "I agree with you myles" cronies. Surprised you haven't commented on Seanies latest position. Or do you know the latest? Anyway when you do hear it remember we knew it all long before you. Ya clown ya!!!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on May 12, 2012, 07:24:05 PM
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Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: TheThirdManning on May 12, 2012, 07:27:32 PM
Quote from: takeyorpints on May 12, 2012, 06:55:39 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on May 12, 2012, 05:53:07 PM
You come on here slating me and now you have shown what a brainless low life you are. Maybe you should f**k off and start supporting kildare.
.    There you go still obsessed by Seanie and Kildare.. You don't like it when anyone here goes against your sacred opinion. You been slated on the main board when you tried your 2 pence worth about Johnston. Do you even go to the games?how many senior games were you at in a year? Tipical Internet poster with nearly 5000 posts putting Cavan football to right! Proper sit on the fence clown. Your club probably never won f**k all. Your an arsehole who don't like anyone disagreeing with you or your "I agree with you myles" cronies. Surprised you haven't commented on Seanies latest position. Or do you know the latest? Anyway when you do hear it remember we knew it all long before you. Ya clown ya!!!

Your are live on Channel 4, please do not swear
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: takeyorpints on May 12, 2012, 07:40:39 PM
Myles I right! King myles! A true supporter ! If Kildare win the all Ireland myles will need a new 42 inch!!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on May 12, 2012, 08:04:23 PM
Kildare win the all Ireland. Ha ha, not a hope. Seanie has a new position does he, fascinating. My club is written on my avatar in Irish but since you can barely write in English I suspect you won't be able to translate. Where is this main board you are talking about, you do realise this isn't hoganstand. What age are you, 14?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on May 12, 2012, 08:44:51 PM
Does this Myles Cronies thing come with any sort of benefits? A pension plan or dental or something?
I know the Johnston Cronies group comes with an inflated self of self importance and free pair of Johnston tinted sunglasses..

Decisions decisions.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: gaaboard on May 12, 2012, 08:46:14 PM
Time to ease off on the personal abuse lads.
Stick to debating the topics.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on May 12, 2012, 08:57:18 PM
Vhi, shares option, profit share but most importantly you get to support the county you were born in.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on May 12, 2012, 09:35:44 PM
Heh Rodney, you are entitled to your opinion but I take nothing back that I said. Also disagree with you on AC. He had nothing to add and he said so himself  before he supposedly deleted his account which he didn't even do. The shame is we used to have some great posters here with close links to the panel without having any agenda- I'm thinking red and black amongst others. Shame they not around anymore.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on May 12, 2012, 11:26:28 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on May 12, 2012, 09:08:56 PM
Tommy Smith your the perfect example, have you a f**king a clue about Football? Your spate with Richiej was pathetic a few months ago. He was also an indiot. What is with the smiley after what takeyorpints said,, thats just some up the shite you have posted on here,  How you are a Mod gods knows. its not for your knowledge on Cavan football :)

Whats this outburst all about. 

Getting angry with strangers on the internet  ;D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: takeyorpints on May 13, 2012, 12:37:42 AM
Lads we are all passionate. Maybe that's why we have a go. Really its nothing personel to the poster that has posted in front of us, maybe they just take the brunt of genuine posters frustration. I've asked and gave my opinion this  few days  on how I think we COULD beat Donegal , I'd luv if posters disagreed, least it would mean they worked it out and didn't agree. Fine, we all entitled to an opinion. But don't call the Terry is 4 weeks in the job let's judge him next year crap!.he's ther. He's responsible.pull the lads together, his lads. Prove you don't need Seanie. Prove you have fight, bottle, energy, cop on, go down fighting. The supporters will think more of you as players, more as you as management, show you are trying, ok your not ready but your trying. As I said before the result is immaterial . But the performance is more than vital.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: TheThirdManning on May 13, 2012, 12:37:36 PM
Seriously any chance you could post without swearing?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on May 13, 2012, 05:36:30 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on May 12, 2012, 09:35:44 PM
Heh Rodney, you are entitled to your opinion but I take nothing back that I said. Also disagree with you on AC. He had nothing to add and he said so himself  before he supposedly deleted his account which he didn't even do. The shame is we used to have some great posters here with close links to the panel without having any agenda- I'm thinking red and black amongst others. Shame they not around anymore.


Hi folks haven't been here for a while. In fairness though it's not every day you get name checked by MylestheSeanieobsessor so that warrants a flying visit. Excuse the delay in posting but the hurt of realizing I wasn't terribly highly rated by that fountain of informed, objective and sensible posting has been considerable.

Anway Miley while I'm here I can set you straight on a few things. Firstly I did indeed preface various posts by saying that I had a limited enough contribution to make on this forum (and indeed would have been a very occasional poster over a space of 10 years). Why do I say that. 1 I don't live in Cavan any more. 2 I'm not involved in any GAA club up there, in any capacity and 3. I might get to two or three games a year tops. Now from my previous exchanges with you I know reading between the lines would  not be a strong point of yours so let's try and penetrate your skull view Route 1 Myles. These three points are points that I share in common with the two individuals who were monopolizing posting when I signed off here. Yourself and your mirror image Richie J (thought Booj's comparison of you to Richie was a small bit cruel to you but it did make an impression on you for a few days in fairness). So indeed why would I, or a lot of other people for that matter given how quiet the Cavan board has been over the past few months, be bothered reading or posting in response to the ceaseless ramblings of two pub drunks going on again, again and again about their never changing views on Val Andrews and Sean Johnston, particularly when neither of you have anything to offer as regards the day to day workings and goings on within the county set up.

Point number 2, there are plenty of good posters on this Board who are involved in GAA within Cavan and have a fair good feel for what is going on, I suspect some of them have more wit and cop on than to be hanging stuff out on forums like this. Interesting that you only cite Red and Black who hasn't posted here in two years. God love ya. I suppose you have the sulks that a few of the others have asked you to cop on about some of your endless postings on your specialist topic.

Believe or not Myles I have a good bit of regard for you, in fact I'd say if we got together for a pint at some stage I could have a bit of craic and find you a harmless enough aul eejit behind all the nonsense. Some new punk that signed in over the last few days posted some fairly derogatory remarks about you having some sort of posting addiction about your favourite topic. Now to tell you the truth Myles I have sometimes wondered the same thing myself. You already made one undertaking to never post about your bff again a month or two ago, lasted 48 hours and have since been acting like an alcoholic that has fallen off the wagon. See if you can get a bit of control before you piss off even more people on this forum.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on May 13, 2012, 06:48:05 PM
Jaysus lads this all sounds like great craic.  ;D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: big balla on May 13, 2012, 09:19:04 PM
takeyorpoints =>  samstheaim/possibly jelly himself
                                               
milestheslasher => a header

but when their powers combine..........   
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Benny on May 14, 2012, 12:44:18 AM
Ok, long time reader, very infrequent poster. I am a recent ex-pat looking for info. Firstly, a frequent issue on HS, and on this board is the fact that the county board make decisions and they are not to the liking of the posters. Can I ask, is it still the situation that the chairman and secretary of each club, represents the club at Co board meetings? I was at the Co Board meeting, where this was brought in, and it was not a popular decision, yet it came in. Do posters think this is something that should change? and if so does each club have someone willing enough to represent their club at Co Board level? Secondly....could someone please enlighten me, factually, on the SJ situation? As far as I am aware Cavan Gaels signed the transfer, The Co Board did not. The Co Board asked for more info, and this was supplied (as far as I am aware). Has this now been resolved by GAA headquarters?? Lastly, could someone PM me with the panel members, I would love to know who is fit and available for next weekend....I will be relying on https://twitter.com/#!/moefitzpatrick and the bould Mickey Tynan next Sunday....here's hoping for an upset. loving the soap opera by the way folks!!!!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on May 14, 2012, 09:00:01 AM
Takeyourpoints...

When I read your posts I think of a rabies infested dog foaming at the mouth with a touch of tourettes to boot. You won't be staying around here for long if keep up that personal abuse and it won't be anything to do with me!

Anglocelt- You are a bit like that Tynan fellow on Northern sound, waffling on at length but actually saying nothing. Saying that we really only disagree on one subject that I remember. I have held the same view on this subject for a long time and you held the opposite view. Now recent events have that I was close to the truth. I don't think you should stop posting because you you don't live in Cavan anymore but I can tell you I am attending games and (always have done) and travelling long distances to do so, but agreed not as many as I used to. Of late, I've been concentrating on attending the underage scene, as I see that as the most important area and to be honest them lads play the game like Cavan men should. I hope now Terry can get the senior team to do the same.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on May 14, 2012, 02:21:26 PM
My apologies Tommy i probaly went overboard criticising you. Maybe the smiley after what takeyourpints said was being sarcastic. Niall McDermott is only a young player, this year was his first full league campaign. Martin Dunne migh have overshaded him in the league but he is still a very good player and i expect him go have a good game sunday. Donegal with or without will have too much for us i feel, Mcbearthy Mcfadden Ryan Bradley are all capable or scoring. As long as its a better showing than last year and a more positive approach.

btw Mark Mckeever said in the Star today he would have no problem with Johnston playing with Kldare, he siad he is too good a player not to be playing at the top level and i agree. Why sit out a few years for the sake of it, he is 28 now only a few more years at the very top.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cogito on May 14, 2012, 06:08:41 PM
Not sure if anybody knows but we are actually playing Donegal this weekend. Instead of ranting and raving about irrelevant personal arguments does anybody have a clue how we are likely to line up?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on May 14, 2012, 06:10:20 PM
I know down hammered us 0-13 to 0-5 at the weekend.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cogito on May 14, 2012, 06:24:36 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on May 14, 2012, 06:10:20 PM
I know down hammered us 0-13 to 0-5 at the weekend.

At least we didn't let in any goals! Jaysus that doesn't bode well at all. 0-5 in the last game before championship does not bode well
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Ollie on May 14, 2012, 07:04:46 PM
Any word on this years minor team?? How did they do in the ulster league? Is there many from last years team on the panel?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on May 14, 2012, 07:24:54 PM
Are our Minors playing in Breffni before the Seniors? They lost the Ulster League Semi Final. From last year's team they have Conor Smith, Gerard Smith, Michael Argue, Liam Buchannan, Andy Graham. May be more that I don't know of. It would be wonderful to continue the underage dominance in Ulster.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on May 14, 2012, 08:58:07 PM
Sunday: hard to expect much after a pretty poor league campaign, who knows what difference the management team change will have. I would take a strong performance against Donegal and one win in the qualifiers as at least a steady the ship job to build on.

The future: We've had as much success at underage level in the last two years as there has been in my lifetime and that's a fantastic achievement on the part of all concerned and bodes well for the future.

Something to worry about: One of the reasons for our Under 21 success in Ulster has been that we have taken the competition very seriously relative to other counties with keeping lads away from the senior setup until Under 21 bit is done. This caused problems last year in the first Round V Donegal and I hope to jasus we don't repeat some of those mistakes on Sunday. I see we played Leitrim in a challenge a week ago and had Cillian Clarke and Jason McLoughlin in the full back line. I hope to christ Terry isn't thinking about handing these lads their inter county debut on Sunday. Great prospects for the future who could easily get destroyed if thrown in at the deep end too early.

Management team: Delighted that Hyland will be at the head of a management team after everything he has achieved over the past few years at underage. The only worry would be finding somebody to fill his shoes at under 21 level. He should be given at least 3 years and a mandate to develop certain lads into inter county footballers in that time frame. Constant chopping and changing of managers leads to chopping and changing of panels and the loss of people who could be developed in the longer term. I keep thinking back to a lad like Pierce McKenna, he was as raw as feck the first few years he wore the County jersey you'd love to have somebody like him now. You don't develop from an Under 21 player to a Senior overnight and I would like  to see lads like Barkey and McDermott, to name two, given a chance to build on the experience they have got in the past 12 months.

Inexperience: We need a few experienced heads in among the young lads but finding 10 or so battle hardened 25 to 30 year olds to be part of a 30 man panel might be easier said than done. Val was right in cleaning out a few lads but I think he could have been a bit cuter/pragmatic in how he went about it. We have plenty of lads coming through to replace Nesty, Lyng, Mackey and Jelly as far as I can see. Not sure he was as wise getting rid of a rarer species of Cavan footballer that actually has a bit of size/strength/presence whatever e.g. Alan Clarke, Dermot Sheridan, McCutcheon. From the little I saw of McGuigan of Belturbet I liked the cut of him. Add in the likes of Podge, Flanagan, Fannin (out the park please), Mckeever, Cullivan and you might have the makings of a bit of experience in a panel, only if they are totally willing to committ and toe the line mind. Big pity that Mickey Hannon has retired from Inter County I hear, great goer when he was injury free and supposed to have a future in coaching ahead of him. Another reason we need experience is that a few of the younger lads will be lost to the Country when college finishes, unfortunately.

Possible master stroke: For the longer term, Keating in the number 6 jersey could work, there's a slight touch of the Trevor Crowe there which might make waltzing through the Cavan defence from the opposition half back line a bit less of a picnic than it has been in the past.

Finally, hope the Minors can kick on. Good luck all. 
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cogito on May 14, 2012, 09:27:56 PM
Quote from: anglocelt39 on May 14, 2012, 08:58:07 PM
Sunday: hard to expect much after a pretty poor league campaign, who knows what difference the management team change will have. I would take a strong performance against Donegal and one win in the qualifiers as at least a steady the ship job to build on.

The future: We've had as much success at underage level in the last two years as there has been in my lifetime and that's a fantastic achievement on the part of all concerned and bodes well for the future.

Something to worry about: One of the reasons for our Under 21 success in Ulster has been that we have taken the competition very seriously relative to other counties with keeping lads away from the senior setup until Under 21 bit is done. This caused problems last year in the first Round V Donegal and I hope to jasus we don't repeat some of those mistakes on Sunday. I see we played Leitrim in a challenge a week ago and had Cillian Clarke and Jason McLoughlin in the full back line. I hope to christ Terry isn't thinking about handing these lads their inter county debut on Sunday. Great prospects for the future who could easily get destroyed if thrown in at the deep end too early.

Management team: Delighted that Hyland will be at the head of a management team after everything he has achieved over the past few years at underage. The only worry would be finding somebody to fill his shoes at under 21 level. He should be given at least 3 years and a mandate to develop certain lads into inter county footballers in that time frame. Constant chopping and changing of managers leads to chopping and changing of panels and the loss of people who could be developed in the longer term. I keep thinking back to a lad like Pierce McKenna, he was as raw as feck the first few years he wore the County jersey you'd love to have somebody like him now. You don't develop from an Under 21 player to a Senior overnight and I would like  to see lads like Barkey and McDermott, to name two, given a chance to build on the experience they have got in the past 12 months.

Inexperience: We need a few experienced heads in among the young lads but finding 10 or so battle hardened 25 to 30 year olds to be part of a 30 man panel might be easier said than done. Val was right in cleaning out a few lads but I think he could have been a bit cuter/pragmatic in how he went about it. We have plenty of lads coming through to replace Nesty, Lyng, Mackey and Jelly as far as I can see. Not sure he was as wise getting rid of a rarer species of Cavan footballer that actually has a bit of size/strength/presence whatever e.g. Alan Clarke, Dermot Sheridan, McCutcheon. From the little I saw of McGuigan of Belturbet I liked the cut of him. Add in the likes of Podge, Flanagan, Fannin (out the park please), Mckeever, Cullivan and you might have the makings of a bit of experience in a panel, only if they are totally willing to committ and toe the line mind. Big pity that Mickey Hannon has retired from Inter County I hear, great goer when he was injury free and supposed to have a future in coaching ahead of him. Another reason we need experience is that a few of the younger lads will be lost to the Country when college finishes, unfortunately.

Possible master stroke: For the longer term, Keating in the number 6 jersey could work, there's a slight touch of the Trevor Crowe there which might make waltzing through the Cavan defence from the opposition half back line a bit less of a picnic than it has been in the past.

Finally, hope the Minors can kick on. Good luck all.

Thanks AC, its for posts like this that I signed up to this board on the recommendation of a friend.

I know everyone on here has huge passion for Cavan football and I log on here occasional in hope to get some general insight into the team and fella's general opinion on how things are going. For too long this board has lost the plot.

I agree with alot of what you said in your post and indeed I am looking forward to the match on Sunday. I would just like to see our team look like they know what they are supposed to be doing.

I couldn't agree with you more on the likes of Clarke, McGuigan, McCutcheon etc. I think the young lads coming through can benefit massively from having the likes of them around. I have never heard a bad word said about any of their attitutudes around the county and they are the kind of fellas I want helping our new generation to find their feet at senior IC level. Would also like to see Fannin back out the field at some point. Hard to believe the Intermediate player of the year in 2011 is being consigned to stand in goals when we have a twice nominated All Star goalie still available for selection.

However I would strongly disagree with you about Keating at 6. From what I have seen of him although he is a big unit, he can't defend.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on May 14, 2012, 09:38:53 PM
Why did mccutcheon leave the panel earlier in the year?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cogito on May 14, 2012, 09:43:15 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on May 14, 2012, 09:38:53 PM
Why did mccutcheon leave the panel earlier in the year?

Apparently he was told he wasn't needed by Val Andrews. Remember reading that somewhere
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on May 14, 2012, 09:47:13 PM
Quote from: cogito on May 14, 2012, 09:43:15 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on May 14, 2012, 09:38:53 PM
Why did mccutcheon leave the panel earlier in the year?

Apparently he was told he wasn't needed by Val Andrews. Remember reading that somewhere

Heard that but then I heard a different story. 2nd hand so I won't repeat it. Maybe Celt man will tell us.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cogito on May 14, 2012, 09:49:50 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on May 14, 2012, 09:47:13 PM
Quote from: cogito on May 14, 2012, 09:43:15 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on May 14, 2012, 09:38:53 PM
Why did mccutcheon leave the panel earlier in the year?

Apparently he was told he wasn't needed by Val Andrews. Remember reading that somewhere

Heard that but then I heard a different story. 2nd hand so I won't repeat it. Maybe Celt man will tell us.

Has anyone a notion of what the team will look like on Sunday?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: whats my name on May 14, 2012, 10:06:25 PM
i heard down bet us at the weekend by 8 from what i heard we actually had a great first half going in a point down playing against a gale force wind alot of changes were made at half time to try different things so maybe if we could put two decent halves of football together we could get close to donegal im not expecting a win but a good close game that will show us we are moving in the right direction is all im looking for from the donegal game
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on May 14, 2012, 10:29:43 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on May 14, 2012, 09:47:13 PM
Quote from: cogito on May 14, 2012, 09:43:15 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on May 14, 2012, 09:38:53 PM
Why did mccutcheon leave the panel earlier in the year?

Apparently he was told he wasn't needed by Val Andrews. Remember reading that somewhere

Heard that but then I heard a different story. 2nd hand so I won't repeat it. Maybe Celt man will tell us.


I've a feeling Celt Man has more wit than to be sharing tit bits of gossip or idle speculation about one of his clubmen on a public forum like this.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on May 14, 2012, 11:15:11 PM
From what I remember about the McCutcheon incident he wasn't impressed that he was getting a run and said as much to Val. Val told him that he wasn't the type of player he was looking for to have as a consistent member of the team (or something to that effect)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: scoopmine on May 15, 2012, 10:16:19 PM
Reilly,
O'Reilly, R Flanagan,
Meehan, McCutch, Mal-Der,
Givney, McKiernan,
F Flanagan, McKeever, Smith,
Brady, Keating, Fitzpatrick.

BBC tweeted this their missing a corner back. No Podge either.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on May 15, 2012, 10:35:34 PM
The Cavan senior team selection which has just been announced after training tonight.

Cavan manager Terry Hyland has introduced a number of players whom he has been working with over the past three years through the U-21 competition series.

Ulster SFC starts have been handed to 5 players namely Kevin Meehan, Robert Maloney-Derham, Niall Smith, Jack Brady and Brendan Fitzpatrick. Meehan, Maloney Derham & Smith all play their club football with Cavan Gaels whilst Brady plays with Ramor Utd and Fitzpatrick with Belturbet.

All barring Jack Brady featured throughout the Allianz National Football League campaign with Maloney-Derham impressing in the backs whilst Meehan and Fitzpatrick showed glimpses of form in the Cavan attack. Brady has already this year secured a Sigerson Medal whilst helping Cavan U-21's retain the Hasting's cup and Ulster U-21 championship.

Cavan also welcome back Gearoid McKiernan who picked up a serious injury during the NFL and John McCutcheon who has rejoined the panel.

                                      James Reilly
           Padraic O'Reilly. Damien Reilly. Ronan Flanagan.
        Kevin Meehan. John McCutcheon. Robert Maloney-Derham.
                      David Givney. Gearoid McKiernan.
           Fergal Flanagan. Mark McKeever. Niall Smith.
               Jack Brady. Eugene Keating. Brendan Fitzpatrick.

Keith Fannin.
Killian Clarke.
Jason McLoughlin.
Darragh Tighe.
Fergal Slowey.
Thomas Corr.
Joshua Hayes.
Kevin Tierney.
Niall McDermott.
Ray Galligan.
Ray Cullivan.

Cavan play Donegal in Kingspan Breffni Park on this Sunday 20th May at 3.30pm
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on May 15, 2012, 11:13:37 PM
Doesn't Jack Brady also have an O'Byrne Cup medal?  Some haul. 
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Ollie on May 15, 2012, 11:18:09 PM
Suprised Maclarey & Niall Murray didnt make the bench at least. Would have started Tierney ahead of keating at full forward. Is it wise starting McCutcheon when he hasnt played all year? Pity Dunne misses out through injury. It doesnt look like a strong team on paper and I'm fearing a repeat of last years game against Donegal.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: PhilsJemmysField on May 16, 2012, 09:00:58 AM
Looks like Hyland is putting his belief in lads he knows will work like Flanagan, but on the subs bench this is the one I really find interesting Joshua Hayes. Maybe Celt man can comment but I think he is 17 played U16 last year very talented young lad. Could he play a minor match and then come on similar to what Donegal did last year. Think the McCuthcheon and Keating calls are right will give us a bit of strength. John is a clever footballer knows when to back off and should cut out the goal threat. Will be a long afternoon and if we can keep the score tight. Maybe there is a chance. Was a wee bit sad and watched them training last night up in the home of football in East Cavan. So both McKiernan and Giveney were moving well. There is always hope. 
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dougal on May 16, 2012, 09:36:06 AM
Quote from: PhilsJemmysField on May 16, 2012, 09:00:58 AM
Looks like Hyland is putting his belief in lads he knows will work like Flanagan, but on the subs bench this is the one I really find interesting Joshua Hayes. Maybe Celt man can comment but I think he is 17 played U16 last year very talented young lad. Could he play a minor match and then come on similar to what Donegal did last year. Think the McCuthcheon and Keating calls are right will give us a bit of strength. John is a clever footballer knows when to back off and should cut out the goal threat. Will be a long afternoon and if we can keep the score tight. Maybe there is a chance. Was a wee bit sad and watched them training last night up in the home of football in East Cavan. So both McKiernan and Giveney were moving well. There is always hope.

josh was u21 2 years ago,very good player.heard he was playing very well for dit(?) earlier this year.ive always been a bit surprised that he's never featured for cavan at senior level yet.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: PhilsJemmysField on May 16, 2012, 11:21:25 AM
Got the wrong Hayes then, did he not play Sigerson with UCD either at corner or Full Back
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dougal on May 16, 2012, 11:28:22 AM
Quote from: PhilsJemmysField on May 16, 2012, 11:21:25 AM
Got the wrong Hayes then, did he not play Sigerson with UCD either at corner or Full Back

your right,it was ucd.was mccutcheon training with them?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on May 16, 2012, 12:55:27 PM
Brendan Fitzpatrick starting ahead of Niall McDemott ???   ???  .
Fitzpatrick didnt impress in the NFL,so thats a bit of a shocker.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on May 16, 2012, 01:37:18 PM
In fairness McDermott didn't set the world alight either during the NFL. I would imagine bud's pace has got him the starting position.

Hard to know what to make of the team. You could name another side with a raft of changes but never say definitively whether it is any better.. I'd be a tad worried about Padraic O'Reilly in the corner. He's not blessed with great pace, but he's usually solid I guess. It will also be interesting to see how Jack is used, will he continue his U21 duties as a playmaker of sorts or will he return to the inside forward line.

Apart from the impending sense of doom this is always a great time of year, Cavan are still in the Championship. :D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on May 16, 2012, 01:55:10 PM
Pauric Reilly plays his best football at centre half, he does lack a bit of pace for the full back line. He was exposed a few times before at full back so in the corner would be a worry. He has probaly more experience of playing there than McCutheon as he always plays in the half back line. Kevin Meehan is more suited to wing back. Thought Mckiernan was out, so its a bonus he can play.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on May 16, 2012, 02:38:17 PM
Podge will probably do a man marking job on McFadden with Damien Reily or Fergal Flanagan picking up McBrearty.
Is Damien Barkey injured?
I thought he was one of Cavans better performers in the league.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: scoopmine on May 16, 2012, 04:15:05 PM
Nice to see Hayles in the panel from what I know of him a very commited player and stood out at college level for UCD.
The team is the quickest Cavan team in a long time bar perhaps Podge and McCutch and strong through the middle with size and power. A few surprises and a bench that could change things if things go pear shaped. Iv a feeling we could push Donegal alot harder than last year. Believe!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on May 16, 2012, 04:52:25 PM
Quote from: scoopmine on May 16, 2012, 04:15:05 PM
Nice to see Hayles in the panel from what I know of him a very commited player and stood out at college level for UCD.
The team is the quickest Cavan team in a long time bar perhaps Podge and McCutch and strong through the middle with size and power. A few surprises and a bench that could change things if things go pear shaped. Iv a feeling we could push Donegal alot harder than last year. Believe!

John McCutcheon isn't quick?  ???
You obviously haven't played against the guy or seen him play much or you wouldn't make such an assertion.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: scoopmine on May 16, 2012, 06:05:52 PM
Seen him plenty..! Never played against the chap in fairness.
Last champ I seen him play was against baileboro last year. I honestly think the bulking up of him has slowed him down a little although he may have been carrying an injury last year!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on May 16, 2012, 06:25:23 PM
Bitta confusion there - Tom  Hayes was under 16 last year, he's good but he isn't on the Senior bench just yet!!! - involved with the Minors on Sunday though.

Josh played good stuff with UCD (again!) earlier this year and was awarded UCD Player of the Year last month, no small achievement... He was involved with Cavan Under 21s two years ago when they were beaten by Donegal in the Ulster Final
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on May 16, 2012, 08:42:47 PM
I have a feeling there might be a lot of changes on that team for Sunday. When did James Reilly re-appear?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on May 16, 2012, 09:35:53 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on May 16, 2012, 08:42:47 PM
I have a feeling there might be a lot of changes on that team for Sunday. When did James Reilly re-appear?

He was always there he never left panel.

JMC is apparently injured so Podge will probably go centre back.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on May 16, 2012, 09:54:19 PM
Quote from: tommysmith on May 16, 2012, 09:35:53 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on May 16, 2012, 08:42:47 PM
I have a feeling there might be a lot of changes on that team for Sunday. When did James Reilly re-appear?

He was always there he never left panel.

JMC is apparently injured so Podge will probably go centre back.

Oh right. I thought he had left when he lost his place to fannin.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: PhilsJemmysField on May 18, 2012, 11:02:02 AM
JMC is injured as far as I know and not playing

Killian Clarke may be getting the nod. Watched TNG last night (sad life) they had Corcoran on. In his first senior game for Cork he played on Fox who was hurler of the year at the time at corner back and made bits of him. If he had to have played in the other corner would have played on Nicky English. So Clarke may as well start now as well and get on with it

Podge centre half then is the possible assumption.


BELIEVE
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on May 18, 2012, 02:31:51 PM
Maloney Derham's interview extract on the Hoganstand is funny. Saying that they can't go out on a Saturday night and have to watch their diets. Culminating in the great line "Overall, you have to look after yourself and that's a big change"....
Just how far behind are we?!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: scoopmine on May 18, 2012, 02:53:20 PM
Jellys transfer turned down. All over twitter.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on May 18, 2012, 07:43:56 PM
It seems the great anglocelt, he of the rambling boring posts, is ignoring my posts. Hilarious since he came back from his self imposed exile to set me straight. ::) He'll have to log out to see my posts now and I just know he can't resist. Don't let seanies latest set back put you in bad form anglo :'(
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on May 18, 2012, 08:02:36 PM
Quote from: Westside on May 18, 2012, 02:31:51 PM
Maloney Derham's interview extract on the Hoganstand is funny. Saying that they can't go out on a Saturday night and have to watch their diets. Culminating in the great line "Overall, you have to look after yourself and that's a big change"....
Just how far behind are we?!

I imagine being on u21 team of the last 2 years they would be subject to the same. Maybe he was just drawing comparison to the life of his mates?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on May 19, 2012, 12:16:01 AM
Quote from: Benny on May 14, 2012, 12:44:18 AM
Ok, long time reader, very infrequent poster. I am a recent ex-pat looking for info. Firstly, a frequent issue on HS, and on this board is the fact that the county board make decisions and they are not to the liking of the posters. Can I ask, is it still the situation that the chairman and secretary of each club, represents the club at Co board meetings? I was at the Co Board meeting, where this was brought in, and it was not a popular decision, yet it came in. Do posters think this is something that should change? and if so does each club have someone willing enough to represent their club at Co Board level? Secondly....could someone please enlighten me, factually, on the SJ situation? As far as I am aware Cavan Gaels signed the transfer, The Co Board did not. The Co Board asked for more info, and this was supplied (as far as I am aware). Has this now been resolved by GAA headquarters?? Lastly, could someone PM me with the panel members, I would love to know who is fit and available for next weekend....I will be relying on https://twitter.com/#!/moefitzpatrick and the bould Mickey Tynan next Sunday....here's hoping for an upset. loving the soap opera by the way folks!!!!

Not entirely sure about this Benny. I know it was brought in a few years ago but I know in my own club that the chairman and our delegate will go to most of the meetings. I think it was brought in for when votes were being passed or at convention that the Chairman and Secretary had to be there. In theory it might still be applicable but I don't think it's being adhered to. Maybe I'm wrong. Philjemmysfield may know more.
I for one would have been critical of the way the CB had carried out their business over the years but it's very easy to critcise behind a computer. The County Board have taken some very bold steps in trying to improve club football and they deserve time in trying to implement the changes. As the saying goes '' If you keep doing the same things over and over you will get the same results'' You will never please everybody but the main thing is that the people at the helm are doing it for the good of Cavan football. Over the past 5-6 years changes have been made as regards Coaching and Games Development and we are starting to see the fruits of that labour thank God.
For a long time now I had talked about how important St Pats is for Cavan football and how for far too long the CB had neglected it. God knows we could be a force at Senior level at the moment had their been some forward thinking. But better late than never I suppose.  ;D

Best of Luck to our Seniors and Minors on Sunday.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on May 19, 2012, 09:45:21 AM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on May 18, 2012, 07:43:56 PM
It seems the great anglocelt, he of the rambling boring posts, is ignoring my posts. Hilarious since he came back from his self imposed exile to set me straight. ::) He'll have to log out to see my posts now and I just know he can't resist. Don't let seanies latest set back put you in bad form anglo :'(

He is a dickhead anyway.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on May 19, 2012, 09:46:25 AM
Quote from: PhilsJemmysField on May 18, 2012, 11:02:02 AM
JMC is injured as far as I know and not playing

Killian Clarke may be getting the nod. Watched TNG last night (sad life) they had Corcoran on. In his first senior game for Cork he played on Fox who was hurler of the year at the time at corner back and made bits of him. If he had to have played in the other corner would have played on Nicky English. So Clarke may as well start now as well and get on with it

Podge centre half then is the possible assumption.


BELIEVE

I heard Josh Hayes i starting.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on May 19, 2012, 09:50:41 AM
Very interesting article in today's paper. Have good time for Hannon



Not too far away. Getting there. Need a bit of luck. Few teams have been as sinned against in the championship over the past five years as Cavan, writes MALACHY CLERKIN

IN A way, nothing became the Val Andrews era in Cavan so much as the ending of it. A home defeat to Antrim last month during which they actually scored more times than the visitors, but still ended up losing by 0-12 to 4-6. A players' meeting two nights later in Virginia to clear the air at which there was plenty of grumbling about the set-up but not – repeat, not – a vote for regime change.

A phone call afterwards in which the team captain said one thing and the county chairman heard another. A subsequent phone call from the chairman to Andrews telling him the players had voted for his removal when it hadn't happened. Recrimination, angst, chaos. The end.

Oh, and in the middle of it all, the under-21s went out and beat Tyrone to take their second Ulster title in a row. They did so with a team that will still have 10 players underage next year. It wouldn't be Cavan if there wasn't some faint vestige of hope in the mix.

"There hasn't been much success the last few years so the Cavan public have had no choice but to be patient," says Michael Hannon, the shut-down corner-back who was a fixture in the side for much of the last decade. "We don't play a lot of hurling, we don't play rugby, we don't really play soccer, we play basketball only sporadically.

"Gaelic football is what everybody looks at and plays so there's expectation on the back of that. Everyone expects at least one good day every summer."

Hard to see where they'll find one this year.

As under-21 manager Terry Hyland has been promoted to the top job with a four-year mandate; the emphasis will have to be on walking before anyone runs.

Andrews was a faithful officer working an unforgiving beat and even though there was no vote in Virginia, the plausibility of the notion that there might have been was enough for him to take his leave. Like Tom Carr before him, he ran into a dressingroom where there was an obsession with icing even though the cake lacked a certain substance.

Players who could rhyme off their body-fat ratio struggled with a 30-yard foot pass and didn't very much appreciate it being pointed out. There was talent in the group, just not maybe as much as the group thought there was.

Relations were undeniably bad between players and management by the end of the league and even if Andrews had survived the championship, very few expected him to survive the year.

The Seanie Johnston wrangle wasn't the only one that ended with players gone off the panel. Cootehill's John McCutcheon is back in the side for tomorrow but only because Hyland recalled him after he quit the panel in early spring over a lack of game time.

James Reilly is in goal but only after Cavan played much of the league with a forward – last year's county intermediate player of the year Keith Fannin – between the sticks because the original substitute goalkeeper Fintan Reilly also walked out.

Thing is, there's always been flux and ferment in the Cavan panel in recent years. With five players being handed their championship debut tomorrow – including corner-forward Jack Brady who hasn't yet played a league game for the county – they're now up to a scarcely believable 72 championship debuts in 12 seasons. All teams regenerate year on year but not to the tune of six brand new faces every summer. It comes from a restlessness, a constant itch that's never scratched in a county with success in the family tree. Problem is, that success is in the distant outer rings at this stage.

"When Eamon Coleman was over us," says Hannon, "he had that mentality that we were going to win Ulster. You grew accustomed to it. Maybe as you got older, you became a wee bit more cynical. The benefit of being young is that you haven't developed that yet and you do believe you can get there.

"We played Tyrone in 2005 and we nearly had them beat off the park but they came back and got a draw against us and went on to win the All-Ireland that year. I definitely think Eamon getting sick in his second year was such a huge blow to us. He was building something there at that time. We weren't too far away from making a breakthrough."

It's a constant refrain. Not too far away. Getting there. In need of a bit of luck. Few teams have been as sinned against in the championship over the past five years as Cavan. In 2007, they had Down beaten but a late Ronan Murtagh point nabbed them and Down took the replay.

The following year, Kildare mugged them on the line in Newbridge with a James Kavanagh goal in the 72nd minute. Another late goal – this time from Fermanagh's Ryan Carson – knocked them out of Ulster in 2010 and last year they were the only team to score a goal against Donegal even after having Ray Cullivan sent off just eight minutes in.

It would make for grim reading all round if the underage success didn't provide a chink of light. Two Ulster Under-21 titles in a row plus last year's minor title points to a brighter dawn at some stage, they just don't know when. As far as Hannon is concerned, the worst thing that could happen is for the future to be insisted upon in the here and now.

"My own view would be that there's some outstanding players coming through but they're a good bit away yet. Looking at the minor and under-21 teams last year I actually would have thought there was more senior intercounty potential in the minor team than in the under-21 team. Last year's minor team has I'd say seven or eight players who have a real chance of making it at senior level whereas the under-21 team has probably five. People need to temper their expectations and hope they come through over the next three years or so rather than thinking it's going to happen straight away.

"It used to be that a good under-21 was well able to play intercounty football and well able to succeed. That's not the case anymore with the way strength and conditioning has gone. Tactics are more defensive and it's all about breaking tackles now. So the way the game has changed, you can't expect a good crop of under-21s to make their mark straight away.

"They need to be 23 or 24 before they can make an impact. Somebody like Gearóid McKiernan can fill out in just a year because he's a great athlete but in general they need a bit more time."

McKiernan has been out with ankle ligament trouble since a careless defeat against Offaly in the league and his return as the heartbeat of the Cavan side is vital if they're to find any traction against Donegal tomorrow.

The game between these two teams was bitty and niggly last year and yet even though Michael Murphy was sent off in the first half, Donegal still walked away with a nine-point victory, their biggest of the summer. Hyland's side have shown little to convince that a similar fate doesn't await them this time around.

The future may well be bright for Cavan.

But few would argue that the present has much to recommend it.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cogito on May 19, 2012, 10:47:16 AM
Always had a lot of time for Hannon and he makes some good points in that interview.

Surely if fit he would be worth having in and around the panel?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on May 19, 2012, 11:47:53 AM
The very best of luck to our Seniors and Minors tomorrow.

I was very pessimistic for the Seniors earlier but the nearer the game gets the more I think we might give Donegal a game although I'm not sure has my heart took over from my head. We need to start turning Breffni into a ground that teams hate to come to again, like it used to be.

From my limited knowledge of the minors I expect that we should win that game but we must be aware of what happens to Ulster champions in round 1 when they get too complacent - they get turfed out.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: scoopmine on May 19, 2012, 11:53:57 AM
Makes a couple of great points. Although I don't see why scoring a goal against Donegal is mentioned it was a rebound from a peno. Its a pity Hannon suffered from injury's he was a county standard player and a good influence on players round him. I expect a performance from the lads hard work but Donegal will have too much power and scoring ability.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on May 19, 2012, 01:51:22 PM
First time (bar that wee correction) in a while - this place has descended into a National School playground at times.... Without wanting to start a row (and I'm certainly not gonna get into a tit-for-tat exchange with anyone) but a few boyos here, take a chill pill relax and cop themselves on please for the betterment of all who post and/or read this...

Anyway back to the football, agree with scoopmine there, mention of us scoring a goal or scoring more against Donegal than any other team sickens me and is a load of shite in my humble opinion but in fairness that has never came from the players so it's journalists really...

Looking forward to tomorrow - if only to see how much we can improve from last year...

As with any of Terry's teams from the last few years, you can expect a few changes and reshuffling of positions from the one named on Tuesday night.

Really looking forward to the Minor game too - a win and hopefully setting another run in the competition although it is a brutally hard route ahead of them

On a personal note, great day for our club having 4 involved in the two games - makes it an extra special occasion
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: CC1 on May 20, 2012, 09:50:14 AM
Just want to wish the lads the very best of luck today. They're a great group and some day, maybe not today or the next day, but some day, they will open a lot of eyes around the country. The potential is there, the ability, commitment and mentality are there, that little bit of experience to close games out is what was lacking and that will come.

Hopefully today is that day.

Come on Cavan!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on May 20, 2012, 04:20:04 PM
Unlucky to be 6 down at ht. Pen for donegal foul was outside the box and bud Fitz hit post and cross bar. Lads are fighting hard but some lads seem to be carrying injuries like givney and ronan Flanagan. Hope the lads just stick at it and keep it tight.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on May 20, 2012, 06:02:01 PM
Lost by 6 but a good effort from the lads and maybe a few games in the qualifiers is a possibility.Ill post more detailed report later.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on May 20, 2012, 07:14:06 PM
I don't think anyone harboured any genuine hopes of getting a win so today was all about the performance and I saw plenty to give us hope for the future.

Cavan played as a team, worked hard for each other and we look to be finding some good prospects to fill key positions. Our defence was extremely solid in the first half although it opened up a little more after the break and Donegal got their scores a lot easier, but there is a solid platform there to work on based mainly on funelling men back in numbers to compensate for whatever individual shortcomings and inexperience there is in there.

We played very confidently early on and took nice scores but in the second quarter, we shanked a few wides, hit the woodwork again and dropped another into the goalie's arms and from there on the boys' confidence in front of the posts was gone until late in the game when Donegal had eased off the pedal.

Overall we're going in the right direction and if God is good we can get maybe two games out of the qualifiers to progress the team. There's a bit of time until the first round I think so we can regroup. We were playing a very seasoned, well-drilled side today full of experience and comfortable with their tactics, and I think with more games under their belts Cavan can make big strides.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cogito on May 20, 2012, 08:17:35 PM
Hopefully we get a kind draw in the qualifiers and can get some momentum. We are back to basics now and its just gonna take time for players to develop.

Plenty of positives to take from today. Keating looks like he could develop into a quality player with time. McLoughin and Clarke held their own. Still not convinced on others like Maloney, Flanagan and Meehan but they will get better in time I hope.

We actually created plenty of decent chances today. Our shooting was just slightly off.

Midfield was a huge problem and McKiernan didn't look fit at all. We must be one of very few counties still happy enough to send out our kicks on a 50/50 basis.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on May 20, 2012, 08:47:37 PM
Beaten by a better team.  Can live with that.

We kept going til the end and lacked a bit of cuteness.  Always seemed to look for the money shot/pass where it might have been better keeping possession.

Well done lads
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on May 20, 2012, 09:00:44 PM
Broadly agree with Cavanmaniac on his report on the match. Although no one likes to lose we have to point out the positives...

- Cavan had 7/8 championship debutants on the field today.
- 6 points flatter Donegal. They got a penalty that should not have been and bud Fitz was desperately unlucky not to goal. He also hit the post for a point and Keating had a clear point waved wide.
-Colm McFadden only scored 1 point from play (Marked by podge)
- McBrerty didn't score from play at all (Marked by cillian clarke)
- Jason McLoughlin did very well, especially in the 1st half when his marker was subbed.
- James Reilly kicked some good short kick outs for a change.
- Donegal didn't create a decent goal chance
- All this with McKiernan clearly not 100% fit, Givney was definitely injured (must have got treatment 5 times during the match) and Ronan Flanagan must have been injured as he looked awful sluggish which is very unlike him.
- Keating looked the best player on the pitch

Experience, strength and playing to a very well rehearsed tactic was what beat us today in the end and a large slice of bad luck. Credit to Hyland who took a shambles of a team after the Antrim defeat and got them up for this match and the fought hard to the end. We wanted the team to go out and give their all and in my opinion they did that. If we could get a home draw in the back door then maybe another few games would bring this team along to greater heights. We just need to eliminate some of the silly mistakes which gave Donegal a lot of scores.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on May 20, 2012, 10:07:19 PM
Myles I'd have to disagree that the scoreline flattered Donegal, I think it flattered us. Donegal were a lot more than 6 points better than us today. Donegal got a good lead and then completely took the foot off the gas in the second half. We didn't score for almost half an hour of the game.

That said, it was a lot better than our last championship outing. We looked like a team, a weak team but a team nonetheless. The lads worked hard, effort cannot be faulted.
-David Givney looks like he's becoming a fine player. Injured today but put his body on the line and busted a gut for the entire game. Typified by his block in the last minute.
-Keating was brilliant in flashes. Strong and agressive and can score off both feet. 
-Bud Fitz I thought was excellent, surprised to see him come off. He worked extremely hard and was unlucky not to have another goal and a point.
-Discipline. We didn't lose our heads at any stage even when it was obvious the game was gone away from us. Givney and Corr were both hit in the face at different points and didn't make a big deal of it.
-Cormac Reilly is a terrible referee

I see the knives are out for Hyland already over on the Hoganstand. Groundhog day. It's both sad and maddening. It's a long, long way back from where we've found ourselves as a county. But the lads involved now are committed enough and have enough football in them to have make us into a tougher side. It is just going to take time.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on May 20, 2012, 10:37:26 PM
Maybe 6 points was fair enough. Hoganstand censors lots of posts yet just look at the absolute white being written there this evening. Watched a recording of match, ref yet again totally against us.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: whats my name on May 20, 2012, 11:26:57 PM
i was looking at the hoganstand there and the negativity being talked there was unreal i actually thought we done ok today we worked hard and we created chances some of the scores we missed were very scoreable chances people are expecting to much from these players you have to look at the fact that this team was in the all ireland semi final and only a kick of a ball away from being in the final and we scored 1-10 i dont think any team scored as much as cavan did today against them in last years championship we had some good performances today in the likes of keating who kicked 5 points and caused magee alot of problems the two new lads put in at the deep end were very good mcloughlin and clarke and played well considering it was their first senior cavan game podge worked hard and gave it his all hes a very honest player bud done very well and i cant figure out why he was taken off and was unlucky not to score a goal and a point the wood work coming to donegals rescue twice givney played well at midfield and was up and down the pitch all day and chipped in with 2 or 3 good points and was on his own for most of the first half as g-mac looked tired and way off the pace prob was too early for him to come back and didnt look fit at all. mossy corr came in and done very well  another honest player who gives it his all i think if we can get the right draw we could pick up one or two wins along the way in the back door i felt positive leaving cavan that we are making some progress and we are doing something right we just have to be patient it wont happen over night we just need to start believing as a team
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on May 20, 2012, 11:55:45 PM
Yes forgot to mention Corr in the above. Did very well. He might be slightly limited in terms of ability but really does give it his level best. Supporters love to see that.

Very disappointed with the Minors today too. Donegal were much stronger physically, Cavan looked to have reverted back to the smaller type of player. Ben Kiernan came on at half time and played on the '40 and nearly swung the game back in our favour. Conor Smith was caught badly for the goal. We were missing a commanding presence a la Killian Clarke in the full back line. Sad that they are out now. With so many of last year's team we should really have been pushing on at Minor Level.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on May 21, 2012, 12:47:51 AM
I'm probably not as optimistic as some of the posters on here,
The performance was excellent in some parts and terrible in others.

Negatives

-Givney and McKiernan were both clearly not anywhere close to championship match fitness.
Both put in a shift and contributed very well to the cause especially Givney whom was very good on the ball,but Donegal won the midfield battle
-We couldn't buy a ball during extended periods in the game when Donegal won break after break for seemingly forever. That has to be worked on.
-It was a mistake not having Mossy Corr in there from the start and starting Gearoid at wing forward,or bring him on as an impact sub.
-You could see the defensive system they were trying to play,but the Donegal players should have been fouled bringing the ball out of defense to slow the game up, a lack of cuteness as some of you said was evident.
-We have been saying this for some time,but improved physique and  physically bigger players are a must, some of our players looked like under 16's compared to their Donegal opponents.
-Poor shooting,some of the 11?? wides that we had were very scorable.
-Poor shot selection-Wrong lads shooting, Lads like Jason McLoughlin whom wouldn't be renouned scorers ended up on the end of some good Cavan movements when we should have been looking for the likes of McKeever,Givney,Keating,Gearoid to be shooting from distance. It needs to be better organised in future.
-how in holy f***k is one of the best football players in the county and the Playmaker we are crying out for sitting on the bench as a sub goalkeeper in Keith Fannin.
-We need to start with a free taker who can kick the ball off the ground
Positives

-Jason McLoughlin and Killian Clarke were both outstanding,both need to gain at least a stone in mass,but they done their county proud today.
-Podge has a terrific game on McFadden,it wasn't until McFadden switched over on McLoughlin that he scored from play.
-Very good tackling by the backs allround,We forced a number of turnovers in defence.
-Givneys shooting and general play was very good.
-Jack Brady looked lively
-The subs especially Mossy Corr,Niall Smith,Niall McDermott improved things to a fair degree when they came on. I thought Kevin done well also, Ray Galligan wasn't really on long enough to make a real impact.
-Eugene Keating was absolutely outstanding.He is the best football player in Cavan without a doubt.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on May 21, 2012, 03:59:19 AM
I just chanced a look at the forum on another website for the first time in years. I didn't think it possible but it appears it has actually become worse. Some of the negative histrionics in there would make your eyes bleed and your brain itch, some of it is so over the top it looks like an organised collective actively competing with each other to say the dumbest and most outlandish things possible. It's almost like a fundamentalist sect of Cavan supporters have taken to the principles of militant Islam what with all the ranting and raving and demands for revolution.
There's people in there who are so clearly operating outside the boundaries of accepted reason and logic that I wonder how they function in the real world. Most of it should be gathered, catalogued and published as an epic farce. The mind boggles. I'm never looking at that risible nonsense ever again. ;D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: PhilsJemmysField on May 21, 2012, 12:40:36 PM
Very disappointed that the minors went out so tamely, but such is life. A lot of positives out of the senior performance the only lad I was very disappointed in was McKiernan. He was obviously not fit. Looks like management made the call to leave him on at all costs to get him moving and hopefully he and the team can build on that. Even though Givney also was not fully fit he definitely gave it 110% as did the majority of the team Good attitude and a positive approach to the game so a lot to move on with. Hope they can give the same approach in a couple of weeks time.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on May 21, 2012, 04:56:09 PM
Though that the young lads that came into the team from the u-21's did not let themselves down bar Fergal Flanagan.  Clarke and McLoughlin held their own and didnt look out of place. Jack Brady also did ok.

I dont know how the management left Ronan Flanagan and McKiernan on the field for the whole game. It was obvious that Mc Kiernan had run out of steam and Flanagan was very poor and does not have the power for intercounty football especially against a team set up like Donegal.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on May 21, 2012, 06:58:49 PM
Wasn't at the game so won't try to comment. Thanks for the reports.

Two points from Clerkins interview with Hannon on Saturday stood out to me:
1. Number of players we've used in the past 10 years;
2. Hannons reckoning that you need to be about 22/23 to cope physically at championship level.

On point one, just a few names of lads that have played in defence only for the County in the last three years alone-Dunne Mcenroe, Barkey Tighe Carroll Minagh O'Dowd Flanagan by 2 McCormack Waters Damian Reilly Maloney Derham Meehan Podge McKeever Sheridan Clarke Mccutcheon McGuigan Corr. This amount of chopping and changing is absolutely F!"£"£ing insane folks and I'm sure there's a few I've missed out on. Sorry from yesterday throw in Clarke and McLoughlin. How can you develop a defensive system or setup if the lads playing don't know if Ant and Dec will be lining out either side of them next week.

Part of the chopping and changing has to be due to the amount of management changes. So stop that merry go round. Give Terry, Forde and a backup team at least three years and make sure everybody knows that. Set them serious objectives to be division 2 by end year 3 and winning 3/4 championship games per year (Ulster plus qualifiers). From there get them to assemble a group of 45/50 lads to work with based on honest one to one communication as to what's expected from players and what they can expect in return.

Trawl the county for a dozen or so lads that are 25 year old plus and get them in based on them having an honest assessment of their roles in a panel. Do some extra work in lads that have not come through the development squads route. There are players out there, they might respond to a stable, well run outfit.

I know it's early days for the new management team and they have done outstanding work at underage level but I would be a small bit concerned at one or two selection decisions yesterday. I'm delighted to hear that Clarke and McLouglin played well but would worry that they could get destroyed by a seasoned inter county player at a later stage. Last time I remember two outstanding championship debuts by 19 year olds was Lyng and Gaynor in 2004, could be at their peak now........Jasus it's time we learnt that lesson-John Tierney, Paddy Brady, Pierson, Mackey, Hannon etc. etc. etc. Put in too soon and burned out.

The futures bright I'm sure the management team can manage it well. Next 5 or 6 weeks will be tricky I'd say blokes like Keating, Givney and a few others could be targets for tempting offers Stateside, hope they stick around.

Apologies for rambling on I'll sign off for a while and will post a report if any qualifier fixtures in the deep south
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on May 21, 2012, 07:18:31 PM
(http://jasus%20it's%20time%20we%20learnt%20that%20lesson-John%20Tierney,%20Paddy%20Brady,%20Pierson,%20Mackey,%20Hannon%20etc.%20etc.%20etc.%20Put%20in%20too%20soon%20and%20burned%20out.)


I dont think any lads will get burnt out playing for Cavan for at least 3-4 years.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on May 21, 2012, 08:26:04 PM
Quote from: tommysmith on May 21, 2012, 07:18:31 PM
(http://jasus%20it's%20time%20we%20learnt%20that%20lesson-John%20Tierney,%20Paddy%20Brady,%20Pierson,%20Mackey,%20Hannon%20etc.%20etc.%20etc.%20Put%20in%20too%20soon%20and%20burned%20out.)


I dont think any lads will get burnt out playing for Cavan for at least 3-4 years.


It wasn't playing for Cavan that would have burned any of those lads out. It might have been playing for Cavan underage and senior, playing for Club underage and senior and playing colleges, getting injured coming back too early etc. Glad to clear that up for you.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on May 21, 2012, 10:33:29 PM
Quote from: anglocelt39 on May 21, 2012, 08:26:04 PM
Quote from: tommysmith on May 21, 2012, 07:18:31 PM
(http://jasus%20it's%20time%20we%20learnt%20that%20lesson-John%20Tierney,%20Paddy%20Brady,%20Pierson,%20Mackey,%20Hannon%20etc.%20etc.%20etc.%20Put%20in%20too%20soon%20and%20burned%20out.)


I dont think any lads will get burnt out playing for Cavan for at least 3-4 years.


It wasn't playing for Cavan that would have burned any of those lads out. It might have been playing for Cavan underage and senior, playing for Club underage and senior and playing colleges, getting injured coming back too early etc. Glad to clear that up for you.

Sure we are no different than any other county and it would be worse in counties where lads are playing both hurling and football.  The lads you named three of them picked up bad injuries and the other two would still be there if they were good enough.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: gortnaleck on May 22, 2012, 04:53:07 AM
Any chance someone would give a report on the minor game
Also I saw where Ben Kiernan did not start. Was that a surprise. Last thing,where could I
watch a video of the senior game.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on May 22, 2012, 01:39:03 PM
The minor game was very disappointing. Donegal looked much stronger than us physically and we never recovered from the goal where Donegal's huge full forward shrugged off Conor Smith and hammered home. Ben Kiernan came on in the second half and changed the game for Cavan, he made at least 2 excellent long range pin point point passes which led directly to scores, got a sweet point from the left wing and made 2/3 great turnovers. All in the space of about 20 minutes.
Very disappointing that they lost. Let's hope we don't fall back into the trend of having promising teams who fail to deliver.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on May 22, 2012, 02:18:24 PM
We aren't going to win every provincial title at Minor and under 21, so i wouldn't fret too much over it.
It was disappointing yes,but there are a number of those players that are going to contribute to the under 21's next year;
Conor Smith(whom despite the slip up for the goal,is an outstanding defender), He was giving away too much height to the full forward,the Donegal number 8,so there should have been a change in marking arrangements)
Gerard Smith at wing back looks like a class act
Michael Argue and Liam Buchanon around the centre field area,
Ben Kiernan and Conor Madden up front all look very promising and really stood out for me.
The work is being done from under 14 up,and we will pick up Ulster titles and hopefully an odd All Ireland every so often,i am sure of that.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on May 23, 2012, 04:52:42 PM
Anyone know if Martin Dunne was actually out injured for the game on Sunday or was he just not selected for the panel?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on May 23, 2012, 07:22:39 PM
Quote from: Westside on May 23, 2012, 04:52:42 PM
Anyone know if Martin Dunne was actually out injured for the game on Sunday or was he just not selected for the panel?

Don't know for certain but that is what I was told. There is a twit on hoganstand (i know but i can't help reading the idiots over there) called gaelsutd that has declared he was not injured. Mind you this guy has made so many wrong statements as fact that i'd totally disregard everything he says.

I see on the same site Keating and McKeever have promised the lads are going back training this week and are going to give the qualifiers a good rattle. I think the 5/6 weeks might stand to some of them, especially the fitness of one or two of them and hopefully a good draw and we might get a day or two out yet this year.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on May 23, 2012, 08:11:24 PM
QuoteI think the 5/6 weeks might stand to some of them, especially the fitness of one or two of them and hopefully a good draw and we might get a day or two out yet this year.

And that would be progess and what most right minded people would  be happy with at start of year.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on May 23, 2012, 08:20:45 PM
Yes that's what I'm going on too. Gaelsutd simply posts to tell blatant lies pulled out of his arse (Keating transferring to the Gaels, multiple lies about SJ etc) but it did get me wondering. I would assume he must have been injured.

Good to see the lads showing some enthusiasm about the qualifiers. I just hope we don't get some of the big guns and get a hammering. But a chance for this team to go out and play ball without worrying about breaking through a blanket defence would be great. I would be hugely disappointed with a big change in personnel like last year. 2/3 changes is enough.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on May 23, 2012, 08:27:40 PM
Yeah i think two changes would be enough.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on May 23, 2012, 08:35:15 PM
Anyone know was ronan Flanagan injured. I thought he had a poor game and looked very flat but he has always been a great player for us so I assumed it was injury or sickness or the like.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on May 23, 2012, 08:40:29 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on May 23, 2012, 08:35:15 PM
Anyone know was ronan Flanagan injured. I thought he had a poor game and looked very flat but he has always been a great player for us so I assumed it was injury or sickness or the like.



He is out of his depth, afraid to shoot and when he gets the ball he never runs at goal always goes sideways or backways.

That might seem harsh on the lad but i have watched him  the last few years after someone else said it to me and the above is true.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on May 23, 2012, 08:52:54 PM
Quote from: tommysmith on May 23, 2012, 08:40:29 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on May 23, 2012, 08:35:15 PM
Anyone know was ronan Flanagan injured. I thought he had a poor game and looked very flat but he has always been a great player for us so I assumed it was injury or sickness or the like.



He is out of his depth, afraid to shoot and when he gets the ball he never runs at goal always goes sideways or backways.

That might seem harsh on the lad but i have watched him  the last few years after someone else said it to me and the above is true.

I think it is bit harsh tommy mainly because he is a back in my book and due to his versatility ends up playing all over the place.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on May 23, 2012, 08:55:52 PM
Bit harsh maybe but if he is playing in the forwards the next day watch him.

I think he is one of these lads who was promising at underage but hasnt improved.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on May 23, 2012, 11:09:22 PM
Quote from: Westside on May 23, 2012, 04:52:42 PM
Anyone know if Martin Dunne was actually out injured for the game on Sunday or was he just not selected for the panel?

I've heard this from two different sources. Neither are Gaels men but both would be reputable sources,Supposedly he was fit to play,but left out.
Very strange indeed and virtually unbelieveable that your key scoring forward in the league and probably the one good aspect of the NFL(Dunne's emergence) wasn't used.
We will hear more about this,i'm sure.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on May 23, 2012, 11:37:39 PM
Wasn't Dunne left out of the 2010 U21 side by Hyland too? Perhaps there's an issue there. He definitely deserves his chance, he was our top scorer in the league and if fit had surely earned himself a place on the bench at the very least.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: gortnaleck on May 24, 2012, 02:15:46 AM
I saw Dunne play a few times and I have to say he would not be great at winning ball. He is pretty accurate alright but  in Championship football you have to fight hard for every ball you get. I thought he had to beat the player a couple of times before he took his shot. As I said I didn't see him too often but that was my impression.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: PhilsJemmysField on May 24, 2012, 12:38:29 PM
County lads trained in Lavey last night so the sound bites are we are going t take qualifiers seriously 
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on May 24, 2012, 12:48:29 PM
Quote from: PhilsJemmysField on May 24, 2012, 12:38:29 PM
County lads trained in Lavey last night so the sound bites are we are going t take qualifiers seriously

Thats good its shows a good attitude anyway.


Does anyone think Gearoid McKiernan has put on too much muscle?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on May 24, 2012, 12:57:52 PM
Quote from: tommysmith on May 24, 2012, 12:48:29 PM
Quote from: PhilsJemmysField on May 24, 2012, 12:38:29 PM
County lads trained in Lavey last night so the sound bites are we are going t take qualifiers seriously

Thats good its shows a good attitude anyway.


Does anyone think Gearoid McKiernan has put on too much muscle?

Not sure but Ray Cullivan has a problem with that imo as did Nicholas walsh before him.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: whats my name on May 24, 2012, 12:58:03 PM
sj is now a kildare player lads

Seanie Johnston's appeal to the CAC has proven successful and he will be registered as a St Kevin's player.

The news means that Johnston's Cavan career is officially over after the Central Appeals Committee deemed that the ruling of the CCCC last week was incorrect. At that time the CCCC decided that the intercounty transfer from Cavan Gaels to St Kevins could not go ahead on the grounds of residency and ethos.

However the CAC ruled last night that the move should go ahead as: "there had been no objection by either Cavan Gaels or Cavan County Committee within the ten day time limit prescribed in the Official Guide."

Cavan Gaels tweeted this morning: "The longest on going saga in GAA is finally over."

Kildare FM broke the news earlier today and revealed that Croke Park had confirmed the news, with St Kevin's awaiting the papers which will allow him to line out for his new club.

Under rule Johnston cannot line out with Kildare until such time as he has played a club championship game within the county. He was ineligible to play in St Kevin's first round SFC game last weekend and currently the second round is not scheduled to take place until after Kieran McGeeney's team exit the championship.

Kildare play Offaly in the Leinster championship on June 17 and were St Kevin's second round match fixed before that date, then Johnston would be eligible to play for his new county.



Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on May 24, 2012, 12:58:51 PM
Dont really give a shit about that he hasnt been a cavan player in almost a year now.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: whats my name on May 24, 2012, 01:01:04 PM
i dont really care about him either good riddance is what i say to much has been made of it both in the media and in cavan gaa circles its time we moved on and concentrated on the real cavan players we have not just the ones who like to see their name in the paper and make headlines like jelly did the last few months
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on May 24, 2012, 01:03:50 PM
There wasnt to much chat about it on this thread anyway which says alot about the majority of posters here views on it.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: scoopmine on May 24, 2012, 03:54:03 PM
As for the Johnston issue its over no point chatting over it. He is a kildare man now.

In regards to Gearoid McKiernan putting on too much muscle I think the way he runs esp when he is unfit makes him look alot worse than he is. As for Walsh putting on too much muscle in no way was he ever county class or have the skills G Mac has. Geariod is only starting at senior level with alot of hype and pressure. He was clearly not fit Sunday and when he is fit again hopefully with Givney the same the pair can break even with any team at midfield in the qualifers.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on May 24, 2012, 04:37:11 PM
Quote from: scoopmine on May 24, 2012, 03:54:03 PM
As for the Johnston issue its over no point chatting over it. He is a kildare man now.

In regards to Gearoid McKiernan putting on too much muscle I think the way he runs esp when he is unfit makes him look alot worse than he is. As for Walsh putting on too much muscle in no way was he ever county class or have the skills G Mac has. Geariod is only starting at senior level with alot of hype and pressure. He was clearly not fit Sunday and when he is fit again hopefully with Givney the same the pair can break even with any team at midfield in the qualifers.

Walsh represented Ireland and went to Australia to play aussie rules. He had potential at that age but something ruined it. Part of his problem was he got as slow as a snail with all the weight in muscle he put on.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: scoopmine on May 24, 2012, 04:39:59 PM
Still got him a nice job in assie land!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on May 26, 2012, 09:49:56 PM
Has it been decided what weekend the backdoor games are on.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on May 27, 2012, 12:04:12 AM
I think I heard June 30th mentioned as a date for the qualifier games?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on May 28, 2012, 01:53:28 PM
What's going on with shannon Gaels? Three walkovers conceded in div 2. Yet they have a number of really good players getting into cavan panels. How come they can't field a team and is their a limit to walkovers before you are turfed out?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Swadman on May 29, 2012, 08:51:17 PM
Quote from: scoopmine on May 24, 2012, 03:54:03 PM

..Gearoid McKiernan putting on too much muscle.......

For ages we were saying that the county team were "too small" (true), now G Mac is "too mussley"  Not when you stand up against a lot of the Kildare lads (except Johnston) ;D I agree though that  it's the way he runs when he is unfit,  makes him look a lot worse than he is.
He played for us last Saturday in Kill (ankle heavily strapped) and it's fair to say he controlled midfield for the most of the match despite a good performance by McKenna.

We may have taken Kill by surprise by arriving with two teams - They had been watching a certain Ard Fheis which said we couldn't field :P ::)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on May 30, 2012, 09:57:01 AM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on May 28, 2012, 01:53:28 PM
What's going on with shannon Gaels? Three walkovers conceded in div 2. Yet they have a number of really good players getting into cavan panels. How come they can't field a team and is their a limit to walkovers before you are turfed out?

Don't know if you saw this on HS.

cavanforsam
County: Cavan
Posts: 118

1183190  A work colleague of mine is involved with Shannon Gaels. According to him they have lost 14 players from last year. Only 3 of their starting champ team from 2011 remain. If this is true then that is a serious loss to any club never mind a junior club. According to him young OHara and O donnnell are also heading stateside within next week or so. They have only one player based at home, have 18 students (6 leaving certs) from a panel of 20 players. Also one of their leaving cert lads got a serious concussion early on in the year which has resulted in him not sitting leaving cert this year. This had a huge effect on other students and as a result they have not been able to field teams recently.

It is a pity that a club like this who have produced some really good under age players for Cavan recently find themselves in this situation. Unfortunately the recession has had a major impact on the Blacklion area but I hope that they can get things together for the Summer. I think amalgamations will be a fact of life for small clubs like the Gaels in the future. 
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on May 30, 2012, 10:18:07 AM
Quote from: Denn Forever on May 30, 2012, 09:57:01 AM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on May 28, 2012, 01:53:28 PM
What's going on with shannon Gaels? Three walkovers conceded in div 2. Yet they have a number of really good players getting into cavan panels. How come they can't field a team and is their a limit to walkovers before you are turfed out?

Don't know if you saw this on HS.

cavanforsam
County: Cavan
Posts: 118

1183190  A work colleague of mine is involved with Shannon Gaels. According to him they have lost 14 players from last year. Only 3 of their starting champ team from 2011 remain. If this is true then that is a serious loss to any club never mind a junior club. According to him young OHara and O donnnell are also heading stateside within next week or so. They have only one player based at home, have 18 students (6 leaving certs) from a panel of 20 players. Also one of their leaving cert lads got a serious concussion early on in the year which has resulted in him not sitting leaving cert this year. This had a huge effect on other students and as a result they have not been able to field teams recently.

It is a pity that a club like this who have produced some really good under age players for Cavan recently find themselves in this situation. Unfortunately the recession has had a major impact on the Blacklion area but I hope that they can get things together for the Summer. I think amalgamations will be a fact of life for small clubs like the Gaels in the future.

I didn't see that thanks. Thats a terrible series of events for any club to handle. Maybe they can bail out of the league and try and get the thing back together for the championship. Its only a matter of time before a team cannot survive on its own and the fear is they will have to start bringing in young lads who are not fit for playing senior football. Amalgamations for championship in this case seems the only way.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: scoopmine on May 30, 2012, 05:54:32 PM
Does anyone know the story on Cahill and him getting his jaw broke? Hope he recovers and is OK a quality player.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on May 30, 2012, 06:15:53 PM
Quote from: scoopmine on May 30, 2012, 05:54:32 PM
Does anyone know the story on Cahill and him getting his jaw broke? Hope he recovers and is OK a quality player.

There were 2 lads sent off for Mountnugent. One was a county player, I hear the other lad was responsible. Whatsmyname will maybe tell all?! Not a nice thing to happen any player. I'm not condoning what happened and if you strike a lad you always run the risk of seriously injuring them, but I doubt the lad set out to break Martin's cheekbone. I hope he is ok and back soon.

On another point it's sad to see Shannon Gaels in their current situation. We played them in the League last year and they really looked like a serious up and coming outfit with most of the team under 21. It's something that will become more and more common in Cavan unfortunately.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on May 30, 2012, 10:23:42 PM
Leinster junior championship

Cavan 4-11 wexford  1-12.

I've no details but looks like a good result.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: scoopmine on May 30, 2012, 11:16:18 PM
The Cavan starting fifteen were as follows:

James Farrelly (Kingscourt)
Dara Tighe (Killeshandra)
Rory Dunne (Redhills)
Fergal Slowey (Ballyhaise)
Enda O'Connell (Castlerahan)
Joshua Hayes (Cootehill)
Killian Brady (Mullahoran)
Declan McKiernan (Killeshandra)
Sean Gaffney (Kill) (1.00)
Chris Conroy (Lavey) (1.00)
Martin Reilly (Killygary) (0.02)
Keith Fannin (Drumgoon)
Oisin O'Connell (Castlerahan) (0.01)
Barry McKiernan (Crosserlough) (0.02)
Martin Dunne (Cavan Gaels) (1.05)

Substitutes used:
Darren Tiernan (Kill) (0.01) for O O'Connell.
Michael Reilly (Shercock) for M Reilly.
Niall McKiernan (Lacken) for Sean Gaffney.
James Morris (Arva) for D Tighe.
Brendan Murray (Killygary) (1.00) for B McKiernan.

Cavan led at half time on a score line of 3.07 to 0.07 and dominated for much of the game with a good all round team performance. Rory Dunne made a welcome return to the Cavan jersey and put in an excellent shift at full back. A mention also for James Farrelly who 10minutes in to the second half pulled off a brilliant spot kick save only to be beaten with the rebound.

Full time score: Cavan 4.11 Wexford 1.12
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on May 30, 2012, 11:44:00 PM
Who is over the cavan junior team this year?

Glad to see martin Dunne is still involved, fear was he'd jacked it after there was no sign of him on the squad against donegal. Also good to Rory Dunne back too. Well done to them.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: whats my name on May 31, 2012, 01:45:48 PM
yea boojangles he broke his jaw alright a melee broke out after the denn full back adrian cahill elbowed david givney in the mouth in an off the ball incident david givney struck him and a free for all occured martin cahill came running into the melee making a charge for david givney and one of our players met him with a box which resulted in his injuries. we wish martin the best and no one wants to see such an injury but the bad press mountnugent are getting over it is not fair they are making it out that martin cahill was in the middle of a melee trying to break it up when in actual fact he made a lung bursting spirint for one wing of the pitch into the middle of the goals to get involved going straight for david givney he went into that melee with the intention of getting david givney as he made a clear run to where david and his brother were fighting he went there with intent and not to break it up as the denn pro is making out on the hoganstand and in doing so he ran the risk of getting hurt himself which he did it was an unfortunate incident but he is no saint in all of this and neither is his brother he went into the melee to cause harm and in doing so he ran the risk of getting hurt himself which he did. im not saying we are saints up here but the way the denn club are making up lies is making my blood boil they had it up on the hoganstand main page that it was an off the ball incident and was unprovoked when clearly it was a melee that happened and he was involved in it.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on May 31, 2012, 03:01:32 PM
Mountugent are getting a name for this kind of thing. I was at a game 2 years ago against them where a huge melee broke out, substitutes got involved and the whole thing got nasty. Luckily nobody was seriously injured and the Referee ended the game early as a draw so as not to make a big issue of it.

Wishing Martin a speedy recovery, nobody knows what he would have done had he reached Givney but he certainly doesn't deserve to get his jaw broken to stop him. Whatsmyname if your version of events are true it was off the ball and unless he threw a punch himself it was unprovoked so the Denn PRO isn't exactly a liar in this situation.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: whats my name on May 31, 2012, 06:11:04 PM
if nobody knows what he might have done if he reached givney then why are the denn officals trying to make out that he was going in to try and stop it. it was unfortunate that he got his jaw broke and in fairness nobody wants to see that so we'll leave the disscussion at this and hope he makes a speedy recovery
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on May 31, 2012, 08:20:13 PM
Wasn't at the game so can't comment on what happened.  Hope Martin gets better quickly.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on May 31, 2012, 08:25:40 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on May 30, 2012, 11:44:00 PM
Who is over the cavan junior team this year?

Glad to see martin Dunne is still involved, fear was he'd jacked it after there was no sign of him on the squad against donegal. Also good to Rory Dunne back too. Well done to them.

Id imagine it's still Terry with Ciaran Fitzpatrick involved also.

PS. Congrats on reaching the 5k mark Myles. Ziggy could be getting nervous!  ;D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on May 31, 2012, 08:37:42 PM
If it wasn't for seanie Johnston I'd only be on 4k ;D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on May 31, 2012, 10:31:47 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on May 31, 2012, 08:37:42 PM
If it wasn't for seanie Johnston I'd only be on 4k ;D

Haha. Sure if it wasn't for Jelly a lot of sports journalists might only be earning 4k a year.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on May 31, 2012, 10:45:25 PM
The members of the cccc have to be making a few pound out if it too. Everyone is happy, except seanie
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: CC1 on June 01, 2012, 12:32:06 AM
Quote from: whats my name on May 31, 2012, 01:45:48 PM
yea boojangles he broke his jaw alright a melee broke out after the denn full back adrian cahill elbowed david givney in the mouth in an off the ball incident david givney struck him and a free for all occured martin cahill came running into the melee making a charge for david givney and one of our players met him with a box which resulted in his injuries. we wish martin the best and no one wants to see such an injury but the bad press mountnugent are getting over it is not fair they are making it out that martin cahill was in the middle of a melee trying to break it up when in actual fact he made a lung bursting spirint for one wing of the pitch into the middle of the goals to get involved going straight for david givney he went into that melee with the intention of getting david givney as he made a clear run to where david and his brother were fighting he went there with intent and not to break it up as the denn pro is making out on the hoganstand and in doing so he ran the risk of getting hurt himself which he did it was an unfortunate incident but he is no saint in all of this and neither is his brother he went into the melee to cause harm and in doing so he ran the risk of getting hurt himself which he did. im not saying we are saints up here but the way the denn club are making up lies is making my blood boil they had it up on the hoganstand main page that it was an off the ball incident and was unprovoked when clearly it was a melee that happened and he was involved in it.
Wouldn't pay much attention to what they say on hoganstand, sure look at the craic some people came out with following the colission at the junior final last year. I found that to be equally as sickening.

To be honest, I don't think any good comes from bad mouthing the opposition on forums and I think the forum mods shouldn't allow it. Should be purely up to the county board.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: whats my name on June 01, 2012, 08:52:50 AM
Quote from: CC1 on June 01, 2012, 12:32:06 AM
Quote from: whats my name on May 31, 2012, 01:45:48 PM
yea boojangles he broke his jaw alright a melee broke out after the denn full back adrian cahill elbowed david givney in the mouth in an off the ball incident david givney struck him and a free for all occured martin cahill came running into the melee making a charge for david givney and one of our players met him with a box which resulted in his injuries. we wish martin the best and no one wants to see such an injury but the bad press mountnugent are getting over it is not fair they are making it out that martin cahill was in the middle of a melee trying to break it up when in actual fact he made a lung bursting spirint for one wing of the pitch into the middle of the goals to get involved going straight for david givney he went into that melee with the intention of getting david givney as he made a clear run to where david and his brother were fighting he went there with intent and not to break it up as the denn pro is making out on the hoganstand and in doing so he ran the risk of getting hurt himself which he did it was an unfortunate incident but he is no saint in all of this and neither is his brother he went into the melee to cause harm and in doing so he ran the risk of getting hurt himself which he did. im not saying we are saints up here but the way the denn club are making up lies is making my blood boil they had it up on the hoganstand main page that it was an off the ball incident and was unprovoked when clearly it was a melee that happened and he was involved in it.
Wouldn't pay much attention to what they say on hoganstand, sure look at the craic some people came out with following the colission at the junior final last year. I found that to be equally as sickening.

To be honest, I don't think any good comes from bad mouthing the opposition on forums and I think the forum mods shouldn't allow it. Should be purely up to the county board.

i totally agree CC1 that bad mouthing the opposition on forums shouldnt happen
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on June 01, 2012, 01:39:13 PM
I see we play Longford in the Junior semi final on June 13th in Longford. Will some of the players be promoted to the Senior team on the back of this?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Swadman on June 02, 2012, 12:06:39 PM
Quote from: Denn Forever on June 01, 2012, 01:39:13 PM
I see we play Longford in the Junior semi final on June 13th in Longford. Will some of the players be promoted to the Senior team on the back of this?
If they are beat, then 2 or 3 deffo but if they win it might be different. It is like a club having a "B" or reserve team. A fella that would never be considered for the 1st team suddenly catches the eye and the benefit is that he has played a few games in a county shirt so he is not coming in completely cold.       
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on June 02, 2012, 01:07:00 PM
Quote from: Swadman on June 02, 2012, 12:06:39 PM
Quote from: Denn Forever on June 01, 2012, 01:39:13 PM
I see we play Longford in the Junior semi final on June 13th in Longford. Will some of the players be promoted to the Senior team on the back of this?
If they are beat, then 2 or 3 deffo but if they win it might be different. It is like a club having a "B" or reserve team. A fella that would never be considered for the 1st team suddenly catches the eye and the benefit is that he has played a few games in a county shirt so he is not coming in completely cold.     

Why would they be considered if they are beat and not if they win that makes no sence.
The senior team takes priority over a mickey mouse competition.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on June 02, 2012, 02:50:31 PM
True that it should not be prioritised over the senior team but hopefully good runouts for members of the senior panel.  Is Brady on the Senior panel?

Cavan - J Farrelly; D MacTaidhg, R Dunne, F Slowey (0-1); E O'Connell, J Hayes, K Brady; S Gaffney, D McKiernan (1-1); C Conroy (1-0), M Reilly (0-2), K Fannin; O McConnell (0-1), B McKiernan (0-2), M Dunne (1-3). Subs: B Murray (1-0) for B McKiernan; D Tiernan (0-1) for O'Connell.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Swadman on June 05, 2012, 02:02:12 PM
That game seem to be tomorrow night according to the Cavan website

06.06.12 (Wed)Semi Final

Longford V Cavan

Time: 7 30 PM (E.T. Available) , Venue: Glennon Brothers, Pearse Park

Referee: Nial Ward

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on June 06, 2012, 08:57:51 PM
Cavan win 2-8 to 1-10. Martin Reilly goal in the last minute. Well done to the lads again.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: PhilsJemmysField on June 07, 2012, 05:46:06 PM
Anybody at the junior game can they stick up a report


Swad man , any word on the  like's of McKiernan how has he gone 4 u lads in the league matches ? Would be great if he is working up a good bit of game time
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Swadman on June 07, 2012, 06:33:45 PM
Quote from: PhilsJemmysField on June 07, 2012, 05:46:06 PM
Anybody at the junior game can they stick up a report


Swad man , any word on the  like's of McKiernan how has he gone 4 u lads in the league matches ? Would be great if he is working up a good bit of game time
We played Cavan Gaels last night in Swad. Great game of footie. Swad 1:13 Gaels 0:12.
G Mac played well, set up the goal for the ever young Robbie and later Gearoid drilled narrowly wide himself. He scored his usual few points for us. Hard to tell in the ACFL but I'd say he is close to full fitness. He was moving up and down the field much better than in the Kill game (where he played well though)
Collins (Docs brother?) for the Gaels at 13  caused us problems early on with a few great scores from play.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on June 08, 2012, 10:13:45 AM
Quote from: PhilsJemmysField on June 07, 2012, 05:46:06 PM
Anybody at the junior game can they stick up a report


Swad man , any word on the  like's of McKiernan how has he gone 4 u lads in the league matches ? Would be great if he is working up a good bit of game time

HS good for something.

Longford were a completely different assignment to Wexford and were very unlucky to lose. Not robbed, but almost. A draw would have been fairer to them, but how many times has that happened to us in the past?

The team saw two changes from last week. Declan McKiernan was replaced by Brendan Murray at midfield and Damien Barkey played instead of Rory Dunne at fullback.

Barkey played well, but Dunne's presence and stability were missed. McKiernan was a bigger loss with Longford's strong pair dominant throughout.

Our forwards were under much more pressure than last week and possession was very difficult to come by. Martin Dunne in particular was well marshalled, sometimes double marked. Martin Reilly's ability kept us in the game. His distribution was spot on.

The first half finished fairly even, but Longford played all their football in the third quarter and threatened to run away with it. Cavan just couldn't do anything right during this period from no 1 to no 15 and trailed by four points.

The leadership for the comeback came from Josh Hayes who pressed forward with every opportunity, even ending up getting fowled near their 14 yard line for a vital free, which was converted by Dunne. Chris Conway was also inspiritational in the last quarter, simply refusing to be beaten. His work rate in the tackle and link play were vital components of the fightback.

McClarey made a big difference when he came on and his part in our first goal scored by Dunne, was very smart. He is definitely capable of playing at a higher level. Kill's Damien Tiernan made a significant impact when introduced late on at the edge of the square. A big lad, he was unlucky with a fisted effort that could have ended up in the net.

Their no 13 got a straight red for an off-the-ball with 5 mins left and Cavan made the most of the extra man. In the dying minute, Dunne lobbed a ball into the square from wide on the left and Martin Reilly picked up the resultant break from Tiernan. Right man at the right time, and he made enough space to bury the ball in the net.

We got out of jail for sure, but Cavan worked hard for it and never accepted defeat. Longford were stunned with no time left to recover a point for the draw. Such is life.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on June 08, 2012, 04:22:07 PM
3 Leinster finals in the last 3 years with the Juniors. Each team very different from the previous. It shows that there are plenty of footballers capable of competing at a higher level in Cavan. Hopefully they can make it 3rd time lucky.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on June 10, 2012, 10:42:35 PM
Quote from: takeyorpints on May 12, 2012, 12:17:19 PM
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Donegal are so beatable because they been playing the same system this last 2 years. granted they have become slightly more attack minded this year, but only slightly. There is always shocks in the Ulster Championship.
Mark my words but Armagh WILL beat Tyrone at home in the first round.
No they are not a better team than Tyrone BUT they WILL have their homework done on Tyrone this past 7 months for this particular game. Watch and see ane quote this post if it doesnt happen.

Yes we are not as good as Donegal BUT surely after 2 years we can devise a plan to beat them on the day. Its whats called good team management pulling off the odd masterstroke especially with 2 years to plan it

Just for closure on this issue I think it's important to quote this post as requested.....
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cogito on June 10, 2012, 11:56:54 PM
 :D :D :D :D :D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: PhilsJemmysField on June 11, 2012, 06:05:50 PM
Div1 League, going to be some fun yet if Mullahoran and Gowna get relegated back to Intermediate land. Was at the Leaguers Killinkere game on Friday and Declan McK went off injured after 10 ~ 15 minutes which is not good for the Cavan Junior team
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Swadman on June 11, 2012, 07:46:32 PM
Quote from: PhilsJemmysField on June 11, 2012, 06:05:50 PM
Div1 League, going to be some fun yet if Mullahoran and Gowna get relegated back to Intermediate land. Was at the Leaguers Killinkere game on Friday and Declan McK went off injured after 10 ~ 15 minutes which is not good for the Cavan Junior team
Was it the troublesome groin again or did it look like something else?. I fear for his season if it's the gilmores again.?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on June 11, 2012, 09:16:31 PM
QuoteDiv1 League, going to be some fun yet if Mullahoran and Gowna get relegated back to Intermediate land.

Have the rules changed?  Denn are in Div 2 and were in senior championship last year.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on June 11, 2012, 11:47:14 PM
Just saw this mentioned on HS and checked it out to be sure, Cavan are currently rank outsiders to win the All Ireland. Bottom of the pile behind London, Leitrim, Waterford etc.. Surely the first time ever. What teams are available for us in the qualifiers? Waterford, London, Tipp, Laois, Fermanagh, Westmeath, Wicklow.. A few teams there we should be competing well against at the very least.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: PhilsJemmysField on June 12, 2012, 09:37:52 AM
For Div1 next year roughly 8 teams will be left in Div1 they will play in senior championship + Super Amalgamations. So at the moment looking at Div 1 league Mullahoran and Gowna are up for the drop down to Div2 and also Intermediate.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on June 12, 2012, 09:39:05 AM
Quote from: Westside on June 11, 2012, 11:47:14 PM
Just saw this mentioned on HS and checked it out to be sure, Cavan are currently rank outsiders to win the All Ireland. Bottom of the pile behind London, Leitrim, Waterford etc.. Surely the first time ever. What teams are available for us in the qualifiers? Waterford, London, Tipp, Laois, Fermanagh, Westmeath, Wicklow.. A few teams there we should be competing well against at the very least.

Should be some money to be made in the qualifiers if we get a half decent draw.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: PhilsJemmysField on June 12, 2012, 06:23:39 PM
Would have said it was groin but then it was a November evening in June last Friday. So am no expert on injuries and could not blame anybody wanting to get off the field. But he did look in a good bit of trouble
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: bottom brick on June 12, 2012, 07:45:02 PM
Quote from: Westside on June 11, 2012, 11:47:14 PM
Just saw this mentioned on HS and checked it out to be sure, Cavan are currently rank outsiders to win the All Ireland. Bottom of the pile behind London, Leitrim, Waterford etc.. Surely the first time ever. What teams are available for us in the qualifiers? Waterford, London, Tipp, Laois, Fermanagh, Westmeath, Wicklow.. A few teams there we should be competing well against at the very least.
Where did they get that from? There were nine teams in division 4 this year and we would beat every one of them in the championship, including Fermanagh. Can anyone honestly see the likes of Clare, Carlow or London beating us?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on June 12, 2012, 08:15:51 PM
http://www.paddypower.com/bet/gaa-football/all-ireland-sfc/-3026244.html#link_18595518&force_racing_css=N&ev_desc=Outright%20Betting

Latest odds for All-Ireland.


   
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Swadman on June 13, 2012, 04:02:03 PM
Quote from: tommysmith on June 12, 2012, 08:15:51 PM
http://www.paddypower.com/bet/gaa-football/all-ireland-sfc/-3026244.html#link_18595518&force_racing_css=N&ev_desc=Outright%20Betting

Latest odds for All-Ireland.
Fermanagh 475/1  and Cavan 1000/1  Does that mean Fermanagh are twice as likely to win Sam as Cavan is. As we are unlikely to win does that mean Fermanagh are twice as unlikely to win -  :o  I'm confused ???  ???
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on June 13, 2012, 04:35:57 PM
It means neither team have a hope of winning.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on June 13, 2012, 10:02:06 PM
Leinster JFC result:

Kildare 0-10 Meath 0-09

The proverbial game of two halves. Kildare finished with 14 men. Barry Lawlor sent off for two yellows. Dermot Earley did not play. Most of Kildare's scores from the boot of Seámus Hanafin. Sets up a repeat of last year's final against Cavan.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Swadman on June 14, 2012, 11:25:25 AM
Quote from: Denn Forever on June 13, 2012, 10:02:06 PM
Leinster JFC result:

Kildare 0-10 Meath 0-09

The proverbial game of two halves. Kildare finished with 14 men. Barry Lawlor sent off for two yellows. Dermot Earley did not play. Most of Kildare's scores from the boot of Seámus Hanafin. Sets up a repeat of last year's final against Cavan.
Can / will Seannie play in the final ?   That would draw a crowd  ;D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on June 14, 2012, 01:12:08 PM
Don't think he can because he played Senior Championship football last year.

Hope he won't because no one deserves the circus that would be around the game.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on June 15, 2012, 02:11:37 PM
He may however play for Kildare seniors.

http://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-football/johnston-to-get-green-light-for-offaly-clash-after-new-twist-in-transfer-saga-3137433.html
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: scoopmine on June 15, 2012, 04:43:13 PM
Any word on the Junior final date place and time?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on June 15, 2012, 05:24:05 PM
http://www.leinsterleader.ie/sport/gaelic-games/super-comeback-sees-kildare-book-leinster-junior-final-spot-1-3952731

Kildare will now meet Cavan in the Leinster Junior Football Championship final in St Conleth's Park on June 27 at 7.30pm.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Swadman on June 18, 2012, 09:35:32 AM
All-Ireland Football Qualifiers round one draw
Laois v Carlow
Louth v Westmeath
Roscommon v Armagh
Fermanagh v Cavan
Offaly v Tipperary
London v Antrim
Wicklow v Waterford
Derry v Longford

Winnable, but by no means easy.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on June 18, 2012, 10:01:38 AM
Lets hope Brewster Park is good to us again.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on June 18, 2012, 06:43:35 PM
Reasonable draw but then that is what Fermanagh are thinking too. I think we should be able to win it if we play to our potential but again, its the mass defence puzzle we will have to figure out yet again.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on June 18, 2012, 06:47:14 PM
Doubt if they will bother with that against us tbh.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on June 18, 2012, 07:04:01 PM
Quote from: tommysmith on June 18, 2012, 06:47:14 PM
Doubt if they will bother with that against us tbh.

I doubt they know any other way, just like donegal did the same.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: scoopmine on June 18, 2012, 07:41:54 PM
A good draw for both teams. Hopefully Brewster can be good to us again. Hopefully everyone is fit. Heard the physio room has been full at the last few trainings.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on June 19, 2012, 04:16:59 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on June 18, 2012, 07:04:01 PM
Quote from: tommysmith on June 18, 2012, 06:47:14 PM
Doubt if they will bother with that against us tbh.

I doubt they know any other way, just like donegal did the same.

They conceded 2-16 against Wicklow in the Divison 4 league final so they must not be very good at it and we must have a big chance.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on June 19, 2012, 04:32:20 PM
Hopefully :)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on June 19, 2012, 04:35:12 PM
A win against Fermanagh and a nice easy round 2 draw getting Kerry to take us into round 3 of the qualifiers would do the job nicely.....
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: PhilsJemmysField on June 19, 2012, 06:59:49 PM
League games with county players off at the weekend. So our game vs the bridge off so Fergal Flanagan still in the mix which is hardly major news. Bit crap that games off at this stage but then from the county perspective that is the right thing as it gives them a chance to rest lads and just get them mentally primed for the task ahead. So how will the key battles go McKiernan and Givney hopefully will be a 100% fit. Will Keating go Full Foward on Barry Owens or does that just suit Barry down to the ground ? ANy word from Fermanagh land did not see the Down game at all so have no idea what they are like
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on June 27, 2012, 07:12:36 PM
All the best to our junior team tonight. It would be a great achievement if they could win this title. Is anyone going as I cant make it and would appreciate any updates or match reports. Cheers.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on June 27, 2012, 07:18:17 PM
Team v Kildare

JFarrelly. DBarkey. RDunne. FSlowey. DTighe. BWaters. KBrady. SGaffney. DMcKiernan. CConroy. MReilly. KFannin. CMcClarey. BMcKiernan. MDunne.

Subs: AO'Mara. EO'Connell. JHayes. DTiernan. DSexton. OO'Connell. MO'Reilly. NMcKiernan. JMorris. CSmith. PO'Connor.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on June 27, 2012, 07:28:47 PM
On KFM

http://s2.xrad.io/player/kfm/player.php

Edit: sorrry just updates during the evening.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on June 27, 2012, 07:31:42 PM
Looks a decent team with Dunne and declan mckiernan back.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on June 27, 2012, 07:41:33 PM
Down 3 points to no score after 10 mins
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on June 27, 2012, 07:46:15 PM
Kildare 0-3 Cavan 0-2 14 mins
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on June 27, 2012, 07:47:19 PM
Kildare 0-3  Cavan 1-2 mcclarey goal
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on June 27, 2012, 07:48:26 PM
Kildare 0-3  Cavan 1-3 17 mins
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on June 27, 2012, 07:50:17 PM
Good man tommy, keep it coming. :D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on June 27, 2012, 07:52:51 PM
Some rare shite tunes on this channel between the updates !
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on June 27, 2012, 07:55:32 PM
Kildare 0-5  Cavan 1-4


Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on June 27, 2012, 08:01:50 PM
Waters makes it 1-5 to 5 points.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on June 27, 2012, 08:03:22 PM
Quote from: Westside on June 27, 2012, 08:01:50 PM
Waters makes it 1-5 to 5 points.

Where u gettting ur updates im listening to the news here  :D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on June 27, 2012, 08:05:02 PM
1-5 to 6 half time .
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on June 27, 2012, 08:07:05 PM
Kildare had a massive 2nd half in the semi so let's hope they don't have the same impact today.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on June 27, 2012, 08:24:25 PM
Kildare 0-8 Cavan 1- 7
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on June 27, 2012, 08:30:56 PM
Kildare 0-8 Cavan 1- 8
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on June 27, 2012, 08:31:40 PM
Kildare 0-8 Cavan 1- 9 17 mins second half
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on June 27, 2012, 08:33:41 PM
Kildare 0-8 Cavan 1- 10

20mins
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on June 27, 2012, 08:35:35 PM
Come on cavan!!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on June 27, 2012, 08:36:19 PM
Back to the tunes  :(
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on June 27, 2012, 08:38:58 PM
Would be worse if it was on northern sound!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on June 27, 2012, 08:40:33 PM
Kildare 0-9 Cavan 1- 10

4 mins left
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on June 27, 2012, 08:43:36 PM
Kildare 0-9 Cavan 1- 11

Time near up.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on June 27, 2012, 08:44:46 PM
Kildare 0-9 Cavan 1- 12

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on June 27, 2012, 08:46:07 PM
Kildare red card.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on June 27, 2012, 08:48:34 PM
Kildare 0-9 Cavan 1-13 and its all over.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on June 27, 2012, 08:49:37 PM
What club is Paul O'Connell he came on at half time and seems to be having a stormer kicking 0-2 and involved in everything.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on June 27, 2012, 08:50:56 PM
Go on the breffni boys. Well done to players and backroom team. Another provincial title and a bit sweeter for who it was we bet.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on June 27, 2012, 08:55:19 PM
Quote from: tommysmith on June 27, 2012, 08:49:37 PM
What club is Paul O'Connell he came on at half time and seems to be having a stormer kicking 0-2 and involved in everything.
Cavan Gaels.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on June 27, 2012, 08:56:03 PM
mmm not sure bout that myles
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on June 27, 2012, 09:04:04 PM
Quote from: tommysmith on June 27, 2012, 08:56:03 PM
mmm not sure bout that myles
I am. Minor last yr.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on June 27, 2012, 09:11:47 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on June 27, 2012, 09:04:04 PM
Quote from: tommysmith on June 27, 2012, 08:56:03 PM
mmm not sure bout that myles
I am. Minor last yr.

He not o'connor?

Anyways it was good to win that tonight will give a bit of a lift going into Sunday.

Best for Cavan tonight according to the Kildare radio reporter were.

Declan McK 2 long range points and good fielding
M Dunne - 4 or 5 points mainly form frees .
Martin Reilly - some lovely 45's
Paul o'connell o'connor kicked 2 points after coming on at half time.

Seemed like a very good team performance.

Hopefully some of the lads were at it and we can get a good report.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on June 27, 2012, 10:17:30 PM
Brilliant news.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tierworker blue on June 27, 2012, 10:19:42 PM
Great stuff!  :D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on June 28, 2012, 07:22:13 AM
Cavan made it third time lucky as they captured their first provincial football title at this level with a comfortable victory at St Conleth's Park last night. The Breffni men had been defeated in the previous two deciders, but Conor McClarey's first-half goal helped them gain revenge for last year's loss at the hands of the Lilywhites. The hosts enjoyed the better of the early exchanges, racing into a three-point lead by the 10th minute, but Cavan eventually found their shooting boots and reeled off 1-4 without reply to take control. McClarey's goal came midway through that scoring burst, the corner-forward taking a Martin Dunne pass and coolly slotting the ball under William Clinch. The defending champions hit back and closed the gap to two points at the interval (1-5 to 0-6) with points from Cathal McNally and Seamus Hanafin. However, four unanswered points midway through the second half from Declan McKiernan, Paul O'Connor (two) and Dunne swung the match firmly in favour of the Ulster side. Darren Barker saw red for Kildare in the closing stages as a brace of points from Dunne sealed a historic victory for Cavan. Scorers -- Cavan: M Dunne 0-5 (3f), D McKiernan 0-3 (2f), C McClarey 1-0, P O'Connor, M Reilly (2 '45s') 0-2 each, B Watters 0-1. Kildare: S Hanafin (2f), C McNally 0-3 each, C Bolton, R Walsh, J Kehoe 0-1 each. CAVAN -- J Farrelly; D Barker, R Dunne, F Slowey; E O'Connell, J Hayes, K Brady; S Gaffney, D McKiernan; C Conroy, M Reilly, K Fannin; C McClarey, B McKiernan, M Dunne. Subs: P O'Connor for McKiernan (11), B O'Leary for McClarey (57), O O'Connell for Dunne (60), J Morris for Tighe (60). Kildare -- W Clinch; R Walsh, E Fitzpatrick, D Barker; C O'Shea, W Burke, C Fagan; B Lawlor, C Feeney; J Lambe, S Hanafin, D Flynn; Emmet O'Keefe, Cian Bolton, Cathal McNally. Subs: J Kehoe for Lambe (h-t), G Waters for O'Shea (46), T McCann for Bolton (48), A Dunne for O'Keeffe (51). - Cavan 1-13 Kildare 0-9
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: scoopmine on June 28, 2012, 06:14:04 PM
Great result alot of young players as well. Seems James Farrelly is really coming along in goals. Martin Dunne in good form. Josh Hayles seems a real leader and is physically ready for senior inter county. Great to see Barry Watters back in blue and in good form. How are we fixed for Sunday!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: scoopmine on June 29, 2012, 01:15:26 PM
Who was over the Juniors? Hyland again?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: PhilsJemmysField on June 29, 2012, 06:07:18 PM
any word of a team
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: sammymaguire on June 29, 2012, 11:36:49 PM
How do you reckon Sunday will go? 50/50 game even though it's in Enniskillen
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on June 30, 2012, 12:31:21 AM
C'mon to fook Terry and name the team so we have something to discuss.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Onlooker on June 30, 2012, 10:56:04 AM
Reports suggest that Seanie Johnston will play his first match in the Kildare Senior Hurling Championship today.   What a bonus for Kildare, that not only are getting a footballer, but a hurler as well.  He will be busy with the two codes. :) :) :)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on June 30, 2012, 02:47:00 PM
I think we can and will win tomorrow. The 6 week break would have been a help for Terry to get things set up the way he wants. We should nor fear this game and be confident that we have more skillful footallers than fermanagh. If we match them for effort and desire we will win.

Onlooker - wrong thread I think.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on July 01, 2012, 09:01:53 AM
Haven't heard one commentator tip cavan even though fermanagh are only marginal favourites. Any word on a team?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on July 01, 2012, 11:52:33 AM
JReilly. KClarke. PO'Reilly. DTighe. MMcKeever. DReilly .FFlanagan. DGivney. TCorr. NSmith GMcKiernan. RFlanagan. NMcDermott. EKeating. JBrady

Surprised to see Tighe in there. Probably time to move Gearoid away from Midfield and I'd imagine Givney will now get forward more with Corr holding the centre. All in all not a bad side. Bud can probably feel hard done by but McDermott is needed for free taking from that side. Won't get down so I'll be relying on reports from the rest of you here!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on July 01, 2012, 01:52:12 PM
James Farrelly, Martin Dunne, Keith Fannin, Kevin Meehan, Joshua Hayes, Ray Cullivan, Declan McKiernan, Damien Barkey, Kevin Tierney, Jason McLoughlin, Rory Dunne.

That's the panel. Bud and Maloney Derham not included at all. Injured presumably? Good to see Rory Dunne back on the panel. Should be a good option for us at full back next year. Fannin and Cullivan are available if we needed some experience to see out a lead, hopefully we can do it. Although I'd be wary of the expectation that people seem to have. Best of luck to them!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on July 01, 2012, 03:26:53 PM
8 5 down at ht. Givney off injured, Tierney on. We have been very wasteful and fouling too much.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on July 01, 2012, 05:27:55 PM
Superb come back, fermanagh shell shocked. Well done to all involved, a credit to the county. Full report later, have to get the dinner.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on July 01, 2012, 07:13:42 PM
How long does it take you to eat a bit of dinner?! :P
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on July 01, 2012, 08:50:17 PM
I had to eat the dinner and then drive 2 hours home but apologies for the delay ;)

Team named were as per my post earlier but there were some positional changes. Jack Brady went to ctr forward, Givney, Keating & Mcdermott in the FF line, Mckiernan and Tom Corr at midfield. Cavan began well and were targeting some high balls in and while they looked dangerous we didn't get as many scores as we should have. Keating missed a great goal chance and spilled another one he should have caught. This plan was abandoned and Jack Brady went closer to goal and Givney came out around the middle. We were 4-2 up but Fermanagh came back into it, playing a slow handpassing game, by-passing midfield by taking short kickouts and landing some out on McKeever side where he was bet for height.

For the last 20 mins of the first half Fermanagh were well on top, the running game drawing lots of frees and they went in 8-5 up. David Givney picked up a bad looking injury before half time and was stretchered off, replaced by Tierney. McLoughlin came on for Clarke at half time as clarke was one foul away from a red (his yellow was ridiculous, got for trying to pull a fermanagh man of Darragh Tighe). McLoughlin did well, getting tight.

We started the 2nd half well with a good point from Jack Brady but Fermanagh reeled off 4 in a row, walking through our defence where Fergal Flanagan was having a torrid time trying to mark Fermanaghs speedy No15 who was playing at ctr forward. These scores bit Fermanagh up by 6 and it could have been worse only Miller made a great save when fermanagh were 1 on 1 with him. We were looking bet at this stage and Fermanagh looked comfortable. Declan McKiernan entered the fray for McKeever, who was doing well in open play but struggling on the kick outs, and made an immediate impact, getting his hands on everything that came his way. Then amazingly things changed when we ran a move with interchanges between McKiernan and Smith put Gearoid in on goal and he side footed calmly to the corner. An almost carbon copy goal followed a minute later when Smith fed McDermott and he rolled into the corner. Another Smith ball found Keating who cut inside and blasted low to the net. We were on top now and Fermanagh couldn't buy a ball anywhere on the field. Tom Corr scored a massive point after shipping a massive hit, G McKiernan got a sweet one of the right foot and D McKiernan another. We went from 6 pts down to 8 pts up at one stage.

Great credit to Hyland and Forde who made good subs although Fergal Flanagan had a really tough time and I'm not sure if he is ready for the role he was asked to play but saying that he is a good lad that tries hard and gives 100% so we should not be too critical. G McKiernan was excellent, Smith did really well in the 2nd half especially. McDermott anf Brady won a lot of possession as did Keating who left tje shooting boots at home. This win will bring the lads on and hopefully we can get a home draw and give someone a rattle.

Big cheer for the result of the Meath match too from the Cavan fans, that's a first!

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BigMac on July 02, 2012, 09:45:03 AM
Cavan V Kildare......... You couldn't write it!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on July 02, 2012, 04:39:42 PM
Great result yesterday. Well Done to all concerned. Now let the circus begin.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on July 02, 2012, 04:46:45 PM
Quote from: boojangles on July 02, 2012, 04:39:42 PM
Great result yesterday. Well Done to all concerned. Now let the circus begin.

The bigger the circus the better for Cavan. Terry is a shrewd man and this stuff is perfect ammunition for mind games. Unlike many, I think Cavan have a chance in this game. Yes on paper it looks like Kildare will be too powerful for us but I think we might have the passion and the point to prove to those that would label us the "weak" or "small" county that shed its "best" players to the big boys in Kildare. Well now our lads can send a message to the media and to Kildare. The pressure is all on Kildare and if Cavan get some fire in their bellies then why the hell can't we beat them. 
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on July 02, 2012, 05:20:29 PM
I didn't rate the Meath team (bar a few new additions) that beat Kildare yesterday so we could have a chance but our backs will have to improve something serious. Realistically we are 3 or 4 years behind this Kildare team in experience and physical development and bar Kerry we couldn't have been given a worse draw. The pressure is on Mc Geeney but the man is a winner and I fully expect his troops to come out and play like their lives depend on it. If Kildare lose this game four years hard work and millions of euro will have all been for nothing. I don't expect to see SJ play either.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: bottom brick on July 02, 2012, 06:40:48 PM
Quote from: boojangles on July 02, 2012, 05:20:29 PM
I didn't rate the Meath team (bar a few new additions) that beat Kildare yesterday so we could have a chance but our backs will have to improve something serious. Realistically we are 3 or 4 years behind this Kildare team in experience and physical development and bar Kerry we couldn't have been given a worse draw. The pressure is on Mc Geeney but the man is a winner and I fully expect his troops to come out and play like their lives depend on it. If Kildare lose this game four years hard work and millions of euro will have all been for nothing. I don't expect to see SJ play either.
Realistically the last four years are already wasted for Kildare because they have no chance of winning anything in the championship this year now.  Leinster was their best hope and they know it. They have arguably declined in the last two years, this years league win aside. I think we might never have a better chance of beating them, especially with the bullshit they will have to put up with regarding SJ in the run up. Having home advantage will be massive for us, more so than ever.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on July 02, 2012, 10:45:36 PM
I can't agree with that bottom brick. Kildare will have been targeting Leinster yes, but let's not forget they were in an AI Semi Final two years ago and about a minute away from one last year. They have never lost a qualifier under McGeeney and there will be no element of throwing in the towel, make no mistake they believe they can challenge for Sam. McGeeney will paint a picture of Kildare against the world, siege mentality. Kildare are dangerous, we will be lucky to get anywhere near them unfortunately.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on July 02, 2012, 10:56:13 PM
Quote from: Westside on July 02, 2012, 10:45:36 PM
I can't agree with that bottom brick. Kildare will have been targeting Leinster yes, but let's not forget they were in an AI Semi Final two years ago and about a minute away from one last year. They have never lost a qualifier under McGeeney and there will be no element of throwing in the towel, make no mistake they believe they can challenge for Sam. McGeeney will paint a picture of Kildare against the world, siege mentality. Kildare are dangerous, we will be lucky to get anywhere near them unfortunately.

Was the same not true before Sundays game and Meath handed them their arses on a plate. Dangerous to pay a team too much respect. The pressure is all on them to perform and the media are going to be all over them while Cavan can just sit and wait and go at them with everything we've got. All this just might add up to a shock or it might not but we should not fear them. Lads just need to believe in themselves and tear into Kildare from the start.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on July 02, 2012, 11:17:23 PM
The pressure is all on Kildare Myles I agree.. But if you brush past all the surrounding issues, motivations etc, Kildare should have too much for us. We are not Meath. It will take a few years before we have the mindset to be beating bigger sides. Look at the celebrations when we scored our 3rd yesterday, I know it was a good comeback but I still feel the team's expectations of themselves is quite low.

I don't like being too negative, the lads did brilliantly to get themselves into this round and I'm sure they'll give it their all against Kildare. I hope they go out and tear into Kildare, we will need to run at them. Smith and Gearoid bursting forward can cause problems. Do people think there will be any changes to the starting side? F. Flanagan (apparently, I wasn't there yesterday) had a second poor game in a row. Will he be given a 3rd shot?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on July 02, 2012, 11:44:50 PM
Some interesting reading on Kildare's failings.

I hope you haven't hexxed us Myles with your support of the auld enemy.


I've (Emmet Ryan) put together a tactical analysis piece on the Meath/Kildare game for anyone interested
http://action81.com/blog/?p=5929
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: emmetryan on July 02, 2012, 11:54:29 PM
Cheers denn
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Ollie on July 03, 2012, 01:00:37 AM
Was at the game yesterday. I thought Cavan were on top for the first 15mins then Fermanagh took over and dominated the game until Cavan got their first goal and after that Fermanagh just drifted off. From a positive angle cavan supporters would be delighted with the peformance of the Likes of McKiernan, Corr, Smith, Keating and Jack Brady. These guys give you real hope for the future. The sub that game on McCloughlin was excellent too. He took some big hits for such a slender lad. As for the negatives I think Hyland and Forde will still have to dig deep for more fresh talant as I thought some players on the day were just not suited for County football anymore but wil reserve judgement till after the next game. Also were in need of a solid reliable free taker. A Ronan Caorlan type taker would is a requirement for this team.
As for Kildare, I don't think they're quite All Ireland Contenders but their Miles ahead of us in development and I can see them winning with comfortable margin. I was really hoping for Leitrim or Limerick but we gennerally don't get the luck of the draw.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on July 03, 2012, 03:00:45 AM
It's true, we always seem to get harsh draws in the qualifier I'm just amazed we managed to get home advantage itself!
Leaving aside the SJ issue for a moment, in pure football terms Kildare are streets ahead of Cavan right now and they've already got their wake up call and kick in the arse from Meath so expect that to be taken out on us when the day comes. Add in the SJ issue and it might balance some things out a little more in our favour but by nowhere near enough. Kildare are a streetwise professional outfit who operate in a different orbit to us and they very capable of dealing with the psychology around the occasion.
It's a shame because what this team needed were some more challenges against opposition more within our compass, to develop young players and give them a chance in the years ahead. Hopefully a plucky performance along the lines of the good patches v Donegal can prevent a hammering and stop any damage being done to our developing project.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: PhilsJemmysField on July 03, 2012, 10:33:52 AM
Really tough draw had hoped for something a little easier. But, if you were going to pick a day to get Kildare this is it. Will be interested to see if the Kildare camp crack a little bit. One hell of a performance in Brewster, in fairness to McKiernan he dragged the team along. Caught 3 ~ 4 balls under serious pressure when needed and started and finished the first goal.

The pressure is on McGeeney if with 10 minutes to go and his team are two points down (dreamland maybe) Then what the hell was the whole SJ thing about if he does not play him. Had recorded the Kildare / Meath game and watched it last night (sad). Kildare have not a forward to kick the ball over the bar when under pressure. Now SJ has faults but that is not one of them
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on July 06, 2012, 10:43:40 AM
I know Tommy hate HS but there are some good potential Flag titles in the Banners tread. 

My favourite is JELLY MAKES ME WANT TO HURL.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on July 06, 2012, 05:21:34 PM
Quote from: Denn Forever on July 06, 2012, 10:43:40 AM
I know Tommy hate HS but there are some good potential Flag titles in the Banners tread. 

My favourite is JELLY MAKES ME WANT TO HURL.

I wonder will anyone go to the trouble of making a poster, they are not cheap.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on July 06, 2012, 05:29:39 PM
Hardly much point, since he is out for a few weeks with a shoulder injury ;D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on July 06, 2012, 05:35:45 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on July 06, 2012, 05:21:34 PM
Quote from: Denn Forever on July 06, 2012, 10:43:40 AM
I know Tommy hate HS but there are some good potential Flag titles in the Banners tread. 

My favourite is JELLY MAKES ME WANT TO HURL.

I wonder will anyone go to the trouble of making a poster, they are not cheap.

Sure a lump of cardboard and a marker would do rightly.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: scoopmine on July 07, 2012, 02:37:24 PM
Jelly injury worry before a championship match? Sure that never happened before.....
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: scoopmine on July 10, 2012, 08:38:07 PM
Is it all ticket lads?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on July 10, 2012, 09:51:22 PM
Quote from: scoopmine on July 10, 2012, 08:38:07 PM
Is it all ticket lads?

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Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
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Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: eachaidh on July 12, 2012, 12:32:44 PM
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I have been made aware of a study that the University of Ulster are currently carrying out into defibrillators in the GAA. It's an all-Ireland study that is based on line.

As this is such an important and emotive subject for many of us Gaels I thought that I should try to get the word out so that as many of us as possible participate in order to make the results more reliable. The link is below and I would encourage everyone to take the 5 minutes and complete the form. The idea is to get a picture of where we are at as an organisation with the provision of this life saving equipment.

I should state that this is not my study and I am not involved in it other than that I know the people carrying it out. But on their behalf I would like to thank everyone who does fill it out in advance. Your help will be greatly appreciated and hopefully will help the GAA and all of our members. Getting this information may eventually even help to save lives.

Go raibh maith agat!

Link Below:

https://edu.surveygizmo.com/s3/971431/CRP-Defibrillators-Survey (https://edu.surveygizmo.com/s3/971431/CRP-Defibrillators-Survey)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: PhilsJemmysField on July 13, 2012, 04:21:59 PM
A bit mad but anybody hear that young Jelly was kicking frees in Terry Coyle last night
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on July 13, 2012, 05:31:46 PM
Quote from: PhilsJemmysField on July 13, 2012, 04:21:59 PM
A bit mad but anybody hear that young Jelly was kicking frees in Terry Coyle last night

He was using the Cavan gym when the senior panel were training and at the same time as he was whinging to the media about Val Andrews. Nothing would surprise me with the neck of that boy. I hope he is starting on Sunday.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on July 13, 2012, 06:17:45 PM
He will get whats coming to him sooner or later, he has no manners.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on July 13, 2012, 07:07:38 PM
Quote from: tommysmith on July 13, 2012, 06:17:45 PM
He will get whats coming to him sooner or later, he has no manners.

Hopefully he gets what's coming to him this Sunday. Imagine some clown made that lad captain of cavan. Most have been the worst decision ever by a cavan manager.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on July 14, 2012, 03:05:10 PM
Team for tomorrow.  Do us proud.


CAVAN (SF v Kildare): J Reilly; K Clarke, P O'Reilly, D Tighe; M McKeever, D Reilly, F Flanagan; D Givney, T Corr; N Smith, G McKiernan, R Flanagan; N McDermott, E Keating, J Brady.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on July 14, 2012, 05:00:14 PM
All the best to our lads tomorrow. I believe we can win this game if we keep it close for 50/60 minutes. I think there are some goals in us and that could make the difference. What could also make a difference is a good strong support from the Cavan people. There has been a growing apathy towards our senior team of late which is very sad to see, especially when 10 years ago we were surely in the top 5 best supported teams in Ireland. Get off your holes Cavan people and get to this match. We should be aiming to make this a very uncomfortable athmosphere for Kildare and a 16th man for Cavan. If the whole of Ireland is behind us then surely to fu*k we should be able to mobilise a decent home support. Go out lads and play to your potential and hopefully that will be enough.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on July 15, 2012, 05:42:51 PM
Lads that was a  f**king shambles out there today.

No game plan(Going man for man with a superior team is complete suicide)
Forwards can't shoot,
Backs can't tackle without fouling,
No ideas how to win breaks,
No hint of a defensive system.

Hyland,Forde and Tom Reily too have just went from having their 5 year plan to being on the hot seat if there is not a massive improvement next year.
Kildare i would estimate were about 50% fitter than we were,They were powering forward in groups near the end when Cavan players were standing with their heads in their hands on the half way line.
It was embarrassing.

There were few positives out there:

Josh Hayes,Declan McKiernan,Robert Maloney Derham and Mark McKeever all had a positive impact when they came on.

Niall Smith was the best Cavan player for me  whilst Keating tried hard and done terrifically well for the goal,but the shooting all round by the team was horrendous.

It was just a bad bad day.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: CC1 on July 15, 2012, 07:02:45 PM
To be honest I cannot blame anybody in the current Cavan set up for the result today. Fact was that Kildare's players were physically stronger than almost every Cavan player on the pitch (apart from Keating, Givney, McKiernan etc) that takes years and years of training together as a team to get right. This comes down to player turnover which is/was massive in Cavan. Not enough players have been training at inter county level for long enough to bulk themselves up.

If we can get these guys in top condition physique wise, we will be able to compete. At the moment, with the average age of the team being roughly 22-23, we are in a good position to get these lads into a condition whereby they are in the condition the Kildare lads are in for their prime then I think we will improve immensely. At the moment, we are years behind most counties in terms of development.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on July 15, 2012, 08:19:53 PM
Quote from: CC1 on July 15, 2012, 07:02:45 PM
To be honest I cannot blame anybody in the current Cavan set up for the result today. Fact was that Kildare's players were physically stronger than almost every Cavan player on the pitch (apart from Keating, Givney, McKiernan etc) that takes years and years of training together as a team to get right. This comes down to player turnover which is/was massive in Cavan. Not enough players have been training at inter county level for long enough to bulk themselves up.

If we can get these guys in top condition physique wise, we will be able to compete. At the moment, with the average age of the team being roughly 22-23, we are in a good position to get these lads into a condition whereby they are in the condition the Kildare lads are in for their prime then I think we will improve immensely. At the moment, we are years behind most counties in terms of development.

We will be lucky to have 50% of those lads in 2-3 years time, when they finish college they will be off abroad to find work.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on July 15, 2012, 08:57:43 PM
Very disappointing performance today. We were simply outplayed all over the field and I think tactically we were a mess with all sorts of players playing out of position. A combination of a Kildare backlash, their superior fitness and conditioning and us being poorly set-up is what lead to the horrible score. No point slagging our lads, they are probably 3 years from being at the level Kildare are and they are going to have to stick at it and try learn from today.

I was glad to see Seanie Johnston playing. Looking quite fat for a guy who supposedly is training so hard. I was glad as it gave the Cavan supporters a chance to tell him what they thought of him and they did so by loudly booing him as he came on. I will never fathom how he could do what he did today and his legacy is now firmly written in Cavan as a traitor. However, today draws a line under it and Seanie has chosen his path. I hope he gets nothing from his move but it done now, he is no longer a Cavan man - end of story.

Where now for Cavan. We really need to find some naturally athletic footballers. Smith has it but he needs to fill out. Without power and pace we will struggle against the big teams. Terry needs to get someone involved that can train the players fitness wise for this. I'd like to thank the player  for their efforts this year, there were some steps forward and we know its a long road. By all accounts they have worked hard and Cavan fans should be proud of their efforts.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on July 15, 2012, 09:15:46 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on July 15, 2012, 08:57:43 PM

I was glad to see Seanie Johnston playing. Looking quite fat for a guy who supposedly is training so hard. I was glad as it gave the Cavan supporters a chance to tell him what they thought of him and they did so by loudly booing him as he came on. I will never fathom how he could do what he did today and his legacy is now firmly written in Cavan as a traitor. However, today draws a line under it and Seanie has chosen his path. I hope he gets nothing from his move but it done now, he is no longer a Cavan man - end of story.


I dont know how he can walk the streets of Cavan after that, but it was his choice and he will have to live with it.

Edit: he is a fat wee fecker now he must be horsing into the mars bars driving up and down the road to training.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cogito on July 15, 2012, 10:16:29 PM
Lads the notion that Terry needs to go find some naturally athletic footballers is nonsense in my book. Kildare are currently 4 or 5 years into management set up who have gradually improved over time. There has been no meteoric rise.

Look at the conditioning of the Kildare players and you will find that not too many of them looked like that before McGeeney began his regime. We need to do something similar over the next few years and that work has already started but results take time.

Terry has clearly identified the core of the group he wants to work with moving forward. It's a project, it is as simple as that. We can't expect miracles and they simple wont happen. I'm quite positive that under Terry the Cavan senior team will gradually improve. Two u21 titles, and a junior Leinster title implies he is doing something right. The players clearly respect him so we are jsut going to have be patient and support a bunch of talented young lads as they try to grow into a group of players who can compete with the best at senior IC level.

O'Connor completely overpowered Clarke all day today and I am surprised his was left on him for the entire game. McDermott and Givney were quite poor also. Saying that the experience they will have picked up from playing a quality team like that should stand to them and its lets them see clear as day the work they need to do to compete with the best around.

On the Johnson thing I just found the whole thing sad. Not what the GAA is about and I will never agree with it. But as you said Myles, thats it now and time to draw a line under the whole thing. He turned his back on Cavan. We have a bunch of young lads who are used to being the best at their own age group. Now I'm looking forward to Terry trying to bring them to the next level. They want to wear the Blue jersey and once they continue to work hard and conduct themselves in the right manner they will have my support.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on July 15, 2012, 10:20:16 PM
Quote from: cogito on July 15, 2012, 10:16:29 PM
Lads the notion that Terry needs to go find some naturally athletic footballers is nonsense in my book. Kildare are currently 4 or 5 years into management set up who have gradually improved over time. There has been no meteoric rise.

5 years ago Kildare were not getting hammerings like that from anyone.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on July 15, 2012, 10:26:53 PM
Completely overpowered and outplayed. Kildare are ahead in development line is being bandied about a lot.. Will a few years of conditioning really bridge that gap? I'm very skeptical that it will. Perhaps that's the pain of defeat speaking.

I feel sorry for the players, as a supporter turning up on match day that hurt, can't imagine what it must be like to bust yourself all year and go out and take that sort of a hammering.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on July 15, 2012, 10:32:13 PM
Where exactly would Terry Hyland find these athletic players? The present panel is probaly the best players we have available bar a few others but i wouldn't call them athletic. Maybe Turlogh Mooney when he gets back from the injury and Niall McKiernan could be options next year as athletic players. They would still need time to develop.

Kildare are a far more conditined side. That didn't happen over night, Hyland has only been in charge since April. It wasn't till  Mcgeenys  second third year with Kildare that the conditioning work came through. The first year in 2008 Kildare got a last minute goal in Newbridge to knock out Cavan. They are a better side know, the various different core and cardio work they did has paid off.

i'd like to see Rory Dunne at full back next year, Clarke is a good young player, but still alot to learn for senior football.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on July 15, 2012, 11:20:44 PM
Niall McDermot and Feargal Flanagan at least let Johnston know what they thought of him..
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on July 16, 2012, 12:19:34 AM
The management after this overall dreadful Senior Intercounty campaign,need to come to the blatantly obvious conclusion that certain members of these Under 21 winning teams are not big enough/athletic enough or indeed good enough to play county senior football.
Now we talk about Size and Athleticism,
Anyone whom was at the Offaly debacle earlier on this year could not have failed to be impressed by Ciaran Galligan playing centre half back,where his athleticism and strong running ability shone through. He was basically the only bright spot in that game.
Now Ciaran is not the mast talented of footballers we have,however we have to get out of this whole idea of playing the best 15 footballers and going out playing man on man against far superior teams and and start picking players that can fit a certain system of play that can negate the opposition.
To compete with the likes of Kildare,we need players of the mold of  him,John McCutcheon,Maloney Derham,Thomas Reily(Killeshandra,if hes even in the country),guys with power and speed whom can cover ground and run with the likes of the Emmet Boltons,John Doyles and co.
If you can integrate guys that fit that criteria into a system alongside the Eugene Keatings,Givneys,Jack Brady's,Niall Smiths,then we will go places.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on July 16, 2012, 12:53:40 AM
A guy that there has not been much talk about was sitting near me at the game today, Dermot Sheridan. He's a massive lump of a man and if Hyland thinks that he can get the best out of him and give him another chance then I sincerely hope he does so. Clarke is the only member of that starting back line today that has the potential to be physical enough to play top intercounty teams. Tighe, McLoughlin (hope I'm wrong as he is a very tidy footballer), Damien O'Reilly, Ronan Flanagan just don't have it.

If you could get Sheridan and McCutcheon back in there we'd be better able to contest physically in defence (something that Hyland disappointingly failed to address in his interview despite it being the most glaring difference between the sides) Hayes looked hungry when he came on, pacey and looked like a good man to put in a tackle. Hope to see more of him next year.

On a sidenote, Hyland said in an interview after the game that Givney was dealing with an accident in the family and that he was taken off because they felt he wasn't in a good place mentally. I hope it's nothing serious.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Ollie on July 16, 2012, 01:44:39 AM
[I was glad to see Seanie Johnston playing. Looking quite fat for a guy who supposedly is training so hard. I was glad as it gave the Cavan supporters a chance to tell him what they thought of him and they did so by loudly booing him as he came on. I will never fathom how he could do what he did today and his legacy is now firmly written in Cavan as a traitor. However, today draws a line under it and Seanie has chosen his path. I hope he gets nothing from his move but it done now, he is no longer a Cavan man - end of story. ]

I don't think Seanie is too bothered about what people think of him. I heard him receive far worse abuse from so called cavan supporters when he was playing for the Gaels. His skin is well thickened at this stage. He went into the lions den today, faced his critics and left with a score to his name and his head held high. Would have much rathered to see him wearing the blue of Cavan today but due to bad team manager, a clueless county board and the stubbornness of Johnston that wasn't to be. Still though the likes of Jack Brady, Keating & Niall Smith shows that we may have a few more stars that may come through the system collectively as a unit that may bring some Joy to Cavan supporters in the future. It's better to look ahead than to be stuck in the past.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Stevie g 8 on July 16, 2012, 01:57:39 AM
Seanie is a class act,quality point when he came on off the left peg even though game well over at that stage.he owes nothing to Cavan with all the great service he gave and a good addition to Kildare.a few boos by a few fickle fans as if he would care as he got the last laugh
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on July 16, 2012, 09:30:03 AM
Quote from: Ollie on July 16, 2012, 01:44:39 AM
[I was glad to see Seanie Johnston playing. Looking quite fat for a guy who supposedly is training so hard. I was glad as it gave the Cavan supporters a chance to tell him what they thought of him and they did so by loudly booing him as he came on. I will never fathom how he could do what he did today and his legacy is now firmly written in Cavan as a traitor. However, today draws a line under it and Seanie has chosen his path. I hope he gets nothing from his move but it done now, he is no longer a Cavan man - end of story. ]

I don't think Seanie is too bothered about what people think of him. I heard him receive far worse abuse from so called cavan supporters when he was playing for the Gaels. His skin is well thickened at this stage. He went into the lions den today, faced his critics and left with a score to his name and his head held high. Would have much rathered to see him wearing the blue of Cavan today but due to bad team manager, a clueless county board and the stubbornness of Johnston that wasn't to be. Still though the likes of Jack Brady, Keating & Niall Smith shows that we may have a few more stars that may come through the system collectively as a unit that may bring some Joy to Cavan supporters in the future. It's better to look ahead than to be stuck in the past.

Head held high - Are you mad, his head should be hung in shame.

This idea that the county board are somehow to blame is another thing that annoys my hole. The manager selects his panel and his starting 15. Are you telling me that the county board should dictate to the manager who he has on his panel. I suppose they should then tell him who to kick off his panel to make room for the players they bring into it. Maybe the county board should just manage the team then.

I have no connection to anyone on the county board but the current set-up has overseen more trophies than any other in a long long time.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on July 16, 2012, 10:04:51 AM
Kildare are renowned for their brillant fitness levels. I don't think McGeeney would have a over weight player on the team. Johnston isn't fat, he has obviously bulked up alot in the last 7 months. Johnston was always fast and agile. He has now gotten stronger. Look at the rest of the Kildare players, Bolton, kavanagh, Doyle, they all all bulked up and flying fit.


Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on July 16, 2012, 12:20:09 PM

Players like Cian Mackey, Barry Watters, Ray Cullivan all played with Ireland u18 comprosmise rules. Cullivan and Mackey both captained Ireland. There must be some reason why did never pushed on at senior level, or was it just they were great underage but not beyond that. Too much talent in Cavan is lost after u21. I suppose the Junior Championship is a good way of keep developing players.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on July 16, 2012, 01:16:17 PM
Quote from: Stevie g 8 on July 16, 2012, 01:57:39 AM
Seanie is a class act,quality point when he came on off the left peg even though game well over at that stage.he owes nothing to Cavan with all the great service he gave and a good addition to Kildare.a few boos by a few fickle fans as if he would care as he got the last laugh

Are you serious he was about 24 yards from goal.
Quote from: rodney trotter on July 16, 2012, 10:04:51 AM
Kildare are renowned for their brillant fitness levels. I don't think McGeeney would have a over weight player on the team. Johnston isn't fat, he has obviously bulked up alot in the last 7 months. Johnston was always fast and agile. He has now gotten stronger. Look at the rest of the Kildare players, Bolton, kavanagh, Doyle, they all all bulked up and flying fit.


They dont look fat though.

He is a little porky pig now.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on July 16, 2012, 02:53:16 PM
Quote from: tommysmith on July 16, 2012, 01:16:17 PM
Quote from: Stevie g 8 on July 16, 2012, 01:57:39 AM
Seanie is a class act,quality point when he came on off the left peg even though game well over at that stage.he owes nothing to Cavan with all the great service he gave and a good addition to Kildare.a few boos by a few fickle fans as if he would care as he got the last laugh

Are you serious he was about 24 yards from goal.
Quote from: rodney trotter on July 16, 2012, 10:04:51 AM
Kildare are renowned for their brillant fitness levels. I don't think McGeeney would have a over weight player on the team. Johnston isn't fat, he has obviously bulked up alot in the last 7 months. Johnston was always fast and agile. He has now gotten stronger. Look at the rest of the Kildare players, Bolton, kavanagh, Doyle, they all all bulked up and flying fit.


They dont look fat though.

He is a little porky pig now.

Kildare are one of the most professional outfits in the GAA when it comes to Diet/Nutrition and Strength and Conditioning.
There is no way they would have a player within their squad whom was overweight.
Body fat assesment would be carried out during fitness testing throughout the year.
I don't agree with him leaving like everyone else bar richiej on here but theres no need for the sly remarks  like "porky little pig" either.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on July 16, 2012, 04:10:45 PM
Well porky Seanie then  :D



It will be good to see if the Kildare support will back him when he gets snuffed out of it against one of the top side.  My quess is they wont and they will be telling him to go back to f**k to Cavan.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: full moon on July 16, 2012, 05:56:09 PM
cullivan and bud fitz were removed from the panel, what is the logic there anyone?

far too many youngsters on the team, was men against boys yesterday. And older heads like Ronan Flanagan, arent upto to the level required.  Hes given great service to cavan but his performances havent been good enough. we cant line out a forward line where only keating can kick a score.

Regardless yesterday was a disgrace, no gameplan no idea. We made Kildare look like All Ireland champions. The level of performance against  Donegal, a better team I think, was the standard. There is no excuse for losing by 17 points to Kildare. They are good but not that good.

Where to now? Division 3 next year, impossible to predict what sort of squad there will be in place , and relegation from division 3 wouldnt be a shock.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on July 16, 2012, 07:38:22 PM
I suppose we have to give Terry some benefit of the doubt in that he came in and picked up a mess. Val was right to clear a few lads out, think he overdid it in a few cases. Massive inexperience in the panel which explains the mismatch in physique between the two teams. There are a lot of lads in the 27-30 age group who are no longer playing for the County, when they should be at their peak, some of them have been named by other posters. Think Terry needs to look at at everybody over the club championship and look to balance next years league panel a bit more towards experience.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on July 16, 2012, 08:24:42 PM
Well anglocelt, not sure if I'm still on ignore but I agree with that.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cogito on July 16, 2012, 08:46:57 PM
Who are the players people want to see back? When they were all there I seem to remember Cavan posters on several different platforms calling for a clear out.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on July 16, 2012, 09:02:30 PM
Well without knowing the reasons why they were left of the panel I would have thought Gareth smith was worth his place on the panel. Ciaran galligan is athletic but not the greatest footballer but that needs to be worked on. Ger Pierson, could he not be got to put in a few years of commitment. Again, maybe there were good reasons to leave them off. In general, the Cavan management should cast their net wide and maybe 1 it 2 guys could be unearthed.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on July 16, 2012, 10:20:32 PM
Ger Pierson hasn't played any football since august last year. He did his cruciate, did it before around 6 years ago too. Brillant player when on form,pity we never saw more of him in a Cavan jersey, i dont think he will play county football again.

The Cavan u21 from 2005 i think was probaly Cavans most talented team underage. Mckeever,Johnston,Shane Cole,Paddy Brady, Sean Brady,Ciaran Galligan, Damian mcinerny, Gaynor,Dermot mcglade,Michael Lyng.

Only Mckeever is playing with Cavan now, Johnston is no longer a Cavan player. Shane Cole had one year with Cavan seniors and done well under coleman, but didn't feature since then. Paddy Brady had to give up football 5 years ago because of back trouble. Them lads would be in their prime now at 28. We will get better as the team is very inexperienced, but a few more lads that have experience would be good. The present u21's wont work wonders all of a sudden, some might not be good enough, while others need time to improve
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on July 16, 2012, 10:34:35 PM
Quote from: cogito on July 16, 2012, 08:46:57 PM
Who are the players people want to see back? When they were all there I seem to remember Cavan posters on several different platforms calling for a clear out.

For me:

Ciaran Galligan (to try in the half back line)
Dermot Sheridan
Nesty
Mickey Lyng
Martin Cahill
I will also add allowing one of the most skillful players(Keith Fannin) in the county to play outfield.
They all have much to contribute to the cause.
In a perfect world there would be 2/3 others but unfortunately they are unlikely to be in a position to play anytime soon.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on July 16, 2012, 10:53:53 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on July 16, 2012, 10:34:35 PM
Quote from: cogito on July 16, 2012, 08:46:57 PM
Who are the players people want to see back? When they were all there I seem to remember Cavan posters on several different platforms calling for a clear out.

For me:

Ciaran Galligan (to try in the half back line)
Dermot Sheridan
Nesty
Mickey Lyng
Martin Cahill
I will also add allowing one of the most skillful players(Keith Fannin) in the county to play outfield.
They all have much to contribute to the cause.
In a perfect world there would be 2/3 others but unfortunately they are unlikely to be in a position to play anytime soon.

I would agree with that Andrews & Co went a bit overboard on the clearout.

For this year a panel/ team could have included

Miller
Clarke
Podge
Cahill
Sheridan
McCutheon
McKeever
Givney
G McKiernan
Lyng
G .Smith
Niall Smith
J. Brady
Keating
N Mcdermott

Thats still leaving a very strong enough bench with like of Hayes, Corr,Fannin, Galligan, Maloney Dernham, Meehan, Mckiernan, Dunne.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: full moon on July 16, 2012, 10:58:49 PM
Theres been peen plenty of talk of good young players in cavan for the last ten years. I think people are taking for granted that our underage success will continue onto senior level.

Alot changes in a short time. These players can fluctuate, move away or more likely not care enough. Its naive to think we have a 5 year plan in place and all will be well. A couple more hammerings like that, and we all know players will not stick around.

On another note, is there something in the water that we have no football players from the age of 24 onwards? That needs to be sorted, plenty of names from other posters there should be playing, and the very best young players. Also the amount of players coming in and out the panel, being dropped from the panel without reason, or leaving themselves, needs to stop.

There is no continuity, some players have trained all year and been dropped during championship time for little reason. With other players drafted in who havent trained. Its no wonder there is a large contingent of players who are unavailable.

We could name a team of players playing club football in Cavan who would beat yesterdays side, none of whom are on the county panel.

I dont know the situation on some of these players playing IC, its hard to keep track of it all at this stage but:

D. Sheridan
M Cahill ( has a broken jaw i think)
T Crowe?
Alan Clarke
Gaynor
Nesty
Fannin
Cullivan
Ray Galligan ( a free taker badly needed)
Sean McCormick
McCutcheon ( i thought he was on the panel?)

Plenty of experience and strength there.  Can we afford to just ignore so many of these players.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on July 16, 2012, 11:00:27 PM
I suppose in hylands defence we don't know whether a lot of these lads would or could give the level of commitment required or whether they gave it last year or not. For example lyng is in mayo working, was he going to go home 3 times a week to train?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on July 16, 2012, 11:08:17 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on July 16, 2012, 11:00:27 PM
I suppose in hylands defence we don't know whether a lot of these lads would or could give the level of commitment required or whether they gave it last year or not. For example lyng is in mayo working, was he going to go home 3 times a week to train?

It's hard to know whats really going on, if hyland is to continue with this 5 year plan it will probably mean more u-21 coming in next year and more experienced lads been dropped from the panel.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on July 16, 2012, 11:10:08 PM
Quote from: full moon on July 16, 2012, 10:58:49 PM
Theres been peen plenty of talk of good young players in cavan for the last ten years. I think people are taking for granted that our underage success will continue onto senior level.

Alot changes in a short time. These players can fluctuate, move away or more likely not care enough. Its naive to think we have a 5 year plan in place and all will be well. A couple more hammerings like that, and we all know players will not stick around.

On another note, is there something in the water that we have no football players from the age of 24 onwards? That needs to be sorted, plenty of names from other posters there should be playing, and the very best young players. Also the amount of players coming in and out the panel, being dropped from the panel without reason, or leaving themselves, needs to stop.

There is no continuity, some players have trained all year and been dropped during championship time for little reason. With other players drafted in who havent trained. Its no wonder there is a large contingent of players who are unavailable.

We could name a team of players playing club football in Cavan who would beat yesterdays side, none of whom are on the county panel.

I dont know the situation on some of these players playing IC, its hard to keep track of it all at this stage but:

D. Sheridan
M Cahill ( has a broken jaw i think)
T Crowe?
Alan Clarke
Gaynor
Nesty
Fannin
Cullivan
Ray Galligan ( a free taker badly needed)
Sean McCormick
McCutcheon ( i thought he was on the panel?)

Plenty of experience and strength there.  Can we afford to just ignore so many of these players.

Cahill dropped by Andrews and broke his jaw few weeks ago.
Trevor Crowe? Won't or can't commit. To late for him now anyway
Gaynor, seems to have been written off as a head case and maybe rightly so but its a shame.
Nesty, dropped by Andrews and don't know why.
Shierdan, dropped by Andrews but for me hasn't been good enough when played before.
Ray galligan, very slow. When the ground gets fast ray gets the chop.
Mccutcheon, dropped by Andrews (or walked depending on who you ask), recalled by hyland but I think he got injuredand was only just back recently.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on July 16, 2012, 11:34:17 PM
The last two years have been the same before the chammpionship started. Not having a clue of what sort of team we would have for the championship. Against Donegal last year 8 players made their debut for Cavan, some had never even played in the league. The same this year with Jack Brady and Killian Clarke. Saving the u21's during the league is all well and good, but throwing them in at the deep end for the championship is a big ask. Its not helping the seniors, saving these players during the league as Cavan need whatever is available. Meath played the u21's during the league, they mightn't  have went far in leinster u21 but at least they have experiece before the championship.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: full moon on July 16, 2012, 11:35:13 PM
Alan Clarke left the panel last year I think but the whole set up has changed since then.
Definitely a free taker is needed to start next year, whether thats ray galligan or nesty, he can kick them aswell I think.

When you look at the amount of players that have been dropped in recent years it really cant go on for the team to improve.  I also agree Myles that we dont know whats going on behind closed doors. Theres certainly been plenty of quality players in recent years who for whatever reason refused to join the set up.

Its a shame about Gaynor alright, definitely a great player on his day. I dont get the feeling many of the mentioned players will be returning anytime soon though, they arent wanted by management and some of them dont want to be involved.

Something has to give though. Were playing a glorified U23 side. With 4 over age players, one is the keeper, one isnt playing and another has been poor for quite a while. We will never beat a decent side without some experience.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on July 16, 2012, 11:38:04 PM
The reason Nesty and Dermot Sheridan aren't on the panel is the same reason Johnston was dropped. I thought that was common knowledge at this stage.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: full moon on July 16, 2012, 11:43:54 PM
I'm not going to bring Johnston into this at all, but at the same time its an awful lot of experience taken from the team, in fact nearly all its experience in a short space of time.

Were no better for it, I admire Val Andrews , but alot of players seem to have been alienated in his tenure not to mention the Tommy Carr reign as well.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on July 16, 2012, 11:56:42 PM
I forgot Alan Clarke actually,Hes the best Centre Half back in the county so he should absolutely be there.

We need to look at lads like

Tomas Reily (Killeshandra) (Myles can tell us what the deal is with him????)
Brendan Murray(Killygarry)
Donal Thomas(playing outstanding stuff for Killygarry this year)
Sean Mac(who had a stormer of a game on both Ray Galligan and Niall McKiernan last week)
Conor Madden(Gowna) (minor this year and an outstanding prospect with size and heaps of ability)
Conor Finnegan(Lacken) Another outstanding prospect with size and strength who can take a score from distance.
Cian McEnroe(Castlerahan)Minor panelist last year ik believe,a  big man with a massive left boot,whom has been scoring for fun from well outside 45 metres this year.

All lads around the 6'2 mark or over whom are good footballers. There are more out there also.
Gaelic Football is not a complicated science.
If you can get a big, athletic team and install a defensive system with a sprinkling of talented players in certain key positions,you can be competitive against nearly anyone in the country.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on July 17, 2012, 10:05:03 AM
Mulvanny from from Ramor is a great young player. He was part of the u21 panel this year, think he was actually minor this year aswell, but was injured against Donegal - i could be wrong. Great target man at ff. Noel Brady from Mullahoran is a very good player, he was involved with uuj this year, very good full back or can play midfield.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on July 17, 2012, 10:22:08 AM
We also have to recognise that modern football requires huge levels of commitment. This very fact rules out quite a lot of guys. Anyone who works late, does a lot of travel, works on shift etc are gone straight away. This may be a large part of the reason that counties like Cavan rely on youth so much.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on July 17, 2012, 12:21:39 PM
Alan Clarke is definitely another who deserves another try. We have to be careful not to fall into the old Cavan trap of yearning for the players that aren't on the panel and failed to impress when they were. But some element of physicality is required if we are to stay in Division 3 next year which will be extremely difficult. We'll be facing Meath, Monaghan, Fermanagh, Antrim, Sligo, Roscommon, Wicklow. Without considerable improvement in defence it's hard to see how we will gather enough points to stay up.

Also the reaction of players like Nesty, Mackey and Sheridan on Twitter about Sunday's game where their primary concern was for Johnston and tearing into Tom Reilly who "started de whole farce" (sic) makes me glad they were dropped. Give me lads like McDermot any day.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on July 17, 2012, 12:32:52 PM
I think Alan Clarke was played out of position last year in the league and then lost his place and got fed up with it. He was probaly Kingscorts best player at centre back when they won the champinship in 2010, so it was strange that he was put in as a corner back, totally different to playing centre back.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on July 17, 2012, 12:53:36 PM
Quote from: Westside on July 17, 2012, 12:21:39 PM
Alan Clarke is definitely another who deserves another try. We have to be careful not to fall into the old Cavan trap of yearning for the players that aren't on the panel and failed to impress when they were. But some element of physicality is required if we are to stay in Division 3 next year which will be extremely difficult. We'll be facing Meath, Monaghan, Fermanagh, Antrim, Sligo, Roscommon, Wicklow. Without considerable improvement in defence it's hard to see how we will gather enough points to stay up.

Also the reaction of players like Nesty, Mackey and Sheridan on Twitter about Sunday's game where their primary concern was for Johnston and tearing into Tom Reilly who "started de whole farce" (sic) makes me glad they were dropped. Give me lads like McDermot any day.

If that's their attitude then they should f**k off with him to Kildare! I suppose we may never know for sure how rotten the attitude within the camp was before Andrews did his cull and maybe he was perfectly correct to cut out as many as he did if they were causing problems.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on July 17, 2012, 01:44:32 PM
I heard that about Clarke too, also heard he felt that the training and commitment in general around the panel was of a poor standard. If that's why he left well then you couldn't fault him too much. He never lacked for effort any time I saw him playing. Sticking him in corner back is a sign of just how shy of options we are in the full back line. Similar to when Val stuck McCutcheon in corner back against Donegal last year when he was having a stormer at wing back.

I would be slightly worried for Killian Clarke. Two roastings in his first two Senior games won't do his confidence any good. At times on Sunday he was doing his best to stop O'Connor, fouling him even and still couldn't halt his charges forward. He is very young and has a long time to learn but playing in the full back line for Cavan seems to be the fastest route to fading out of the team completely.

Was I the only one who thought McDermott did well enough on Sunday? I thought he was part of some of Cavan's best moves going forward, he weaved through the defence at one point in the first half and Kildare had to take him down, got himself into a great position for a goal in the second half before Flanagan fluffed the pass at the vital moment. His shooting was no better than the rest of our team on the day and he missed an easy free but I thought he did very well in patches. Jack on the other hand seems to have lost a few yards of pace.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on July 17, 2012, 02:34:12 PM
Quote from: Westside on July 17, 2012, 01:44:32 PM
I heard that about Clarke too, also heard he felt that the training and commitment in general around the panel was of a poor standard. If that's why he left well then you couldn't fault him too much. He never lacked for effort any time I saw him playing. Sticking him in corner back is a sign of just how shy of options we are in the full back line. Similar to when Val stuck McCutcheon in corner back against Donegal last year when he was having a stormer at wing back.

I would be slightly worried for Killian Clarke. Two roastings in his first two Senior games won't do his confidence any good. At times on Sunday he was doing his best to stop O'Connor, fouling him even and still couldn't halt his charges forward. He is very young and has a long time to learn but playing in the full back line for Cavan seems to be the fastest route to fading out of the team completely.

Was I the only one who thought McDermott did well enough on Sunday? I thought he was part of some of Cavan's best moves going forward, he weaved through the defence at one point in the first half and Kildare had to take him down, got himself into a great position for a goal in the second half before Flanagan fluffed the pass at the vital moment. His shooting was no better than the rest of our team on the day and he missed an easy free but I thought he did very well in patches. Jack on the other hand seems to have lost a few yards of pace.

No westside,i agree, his general play was very good,but as we know his shooting let him down just like most of the other Cavan forwards.
With regards Jack Brady losing pace,Are you referring to the incident when Jack was beaten by Ollie Lyons in a sprint in the second half???
Jack is quick,but he doesn't have Larry or Niall Smith-esque speed and Lyons is lightening fast.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: packiedevlin on July 17, 2012, 02:38:49 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on July 16, 2012, 11:56:42 PM
I forgot Alan Clarke actually,Hes the best Centre Half back in the county so he should absolutely be there.

We need to look at lads like

Tomas Reily (Killeshandra) (Myles can tell us what the deal is with him????)
Brendan Murray(Killygarry)
Donal Thomas(playing outstanding stuff for Killygarry this year)
Sean Mac(who had a stormer of a game on both Ray Galligan and Niall McKiernan last week)
Conor Madden(Gowna) (minor this year and an outstanding prospect with size and heaps of ability)
Conor Finnegan(Lacken) Another outstanding prospect with size and strength who can take a score from distance.
Cian McEnroe(Castlerahan)Minor panelist last year ik believe,a  big man with a massive left boot,whom has been scoring for fun from well outside 45 metres this year.

All lads around the 6'2 mark or over whom are good footballers. There are more out there also.
Gaelic Football is not a complicated science.
If you can get a big, athletic team and install a defensive system with a sprinkling of talented players in certain key positions,you can be competitive against nearly anyone in the country.


Tomas Reilly is playing away with Killeshandra., primarily at midfield with Declan McKiernan centre-back!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on July 17, 2012, 03:15:44 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on July 17, 2012, 02:34:12 PM
No westside,i agree, his general play was very good,but as we know his shooting let him down just like most of the other Cavan forwards.
With regards Jack Brady losing pace,Are you referring to the incident when Jack was beaten by Ollie Lyons in a sprint in the second half???
Jack is quick,but he doesn't have Larry or Niall Smith-esque speed and Lyons is lightening fast.

I thought he looked sluggish all day but yes that particular race for the ball was the one that stuck out in my mind! Smith is in a league of his own as regards pace but I always thought Jack had a great burst of pace that would outdo most corner backs. Perhaps I'm alone in thinking that but I remember the U21 Final 2011 in particular he looked lightning fast and roasted his man to the ball every time. Then again he's had a lot of football this year between Sigerson, U21, Club and Senior. And to be fair the incident mentioned was late in the game so perhaps I'm making something from nothing.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on July 17, 2012, 03:59:55 PM
Hopefully Oisin Moynagh, Barry Reilly, James McEnroe Rory Dunne and John McCutheon now that he is back to fitness, will all be available next year. The only time i saw Moynagh play with the seniors he was very good, against Louth marking Colm Judge. Barry Reilly is a better player than Nesty, Nesty was decent but had no pace and was all left foot. Barry Reilly can hold down the centre forward role for the next 10 years, loads of ability.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on July 17, 2012, 04:36:56 PM
Nesty was good when he first arrived on the scene but his standards dropped quickly and he was an unreliable undisciplined player in his last few games for Cavan. If he was county material he would have been a Dublin player at some point. Barry Reilly offers more to a team than his considerable potential, as a leader and a spokesman he is worth his weight in gold. He needs a good year of injury free football to develop though, otherwise we could have another Mickey Lyng on our hands. 

I take it you saw the tweets I'm on about then tommy!? Funny enough in fairness but still the criticism is unwarranted I think. Tom Reilly has taken drastic steps to help improve football in Cavan, he's not there to make friends and he has never been afraid to upset the apple cart. He has more integrity than lads who take cheap shots on twitter because he challenged the status quo that they enjoyed so much. He has put the foundation in place for the improvement of Gaelic Games in our county and if we have the balls to see it through I believe it will work.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on July 17, 2012, 04:39:36 PM
I must get an account on the twitter machine to see what is going on.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on July 17, 2012, 04:51:15 PM
Tom Reilly got a lot of bad press though over the way Val Andrews left. Sort of making out that it was the players that wanted him out when it wasn't. Still i'm happy Terry Hyland is manager, the Kildare result was poor but i think we will improve, we were going nowhere under Val.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: 323232 on July 17, 2012, 04:54:15 PM
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Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on July 17, 2012, 04:56:44 PM
Quote from: Westside on July 17, 2012, 04:36:56 PM


I take it you saw the tweets I'm on about then tommy!? Funny enough in fairness but still the criticism is unwarranted I think. Tom Reilly has taken drastic steps to help improve football in Cavan, he's not there to make friends and he has never been afraid to upset the apple cart. He has more integrity than lads who take cheap shots on twitter because he challenged the status quo that they enjoyed so much. He has put the foundation in place for the improvement of Gaelic Games in our county and if we have the balls to see it through I believe it will work.

Yeah i looked them up, he does look like Pat Mustard though  :D

I have no respect for Tom Reilly, he stated at a County Board meeting that he or any member of county board had nothing to do with Vals exit only for Pauric Reilly to come out and say it was him or some member of County board who started the whole thing.  He also more or less bullied delagates into accepting Hyland as manager.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: 323232 on July 17, 2012, 04:58:27 PM
Hi folks here is a we 2 mins video we would like you to see.  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=03nOo-CDoRI&feature=share
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on July 17, 2012, 05:11:17 PM
Quote from: tommysmith on July 17, 2012, 04:56:44 PM
Quote from: Westside on July 17, 2012, 04:36:56 PM


I take it you saw the tweets I'm on about then tommy!? Funny enough in fairness but still the criticism is unwarranted I think. Tom Reilly has taken drastic steps to help improve football in Cavan, he's not there to make friends and he has never been afraid to upset the apple cart. He has more integrity than lads who take cheap shots on twitter because he challenged the status quo that they enjoyed so much. He has put the foundation in place for the improvement of Gaelic Games in our county and if we have the balls to see it through I believe it will work.

Yeah i looked them up, he does look like Pat Mustard though  :D

I have no respect for Tom Reilly, he stated at a County Board meeting that he or any member of county board had nothing to do with Vals exit only for Pauric Reilly to come out and say it was him or some member of County board who started the whole thing.  He also more or less bullied delagates into accepting Hyland as manager.

I'd agee with that. It was out of order for a county chairman to say that.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanforever on July 17, 2012, 05:15:34 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on July 16, 2012, 11:56:42 PM
I forgot Alan Clarke actually,Hes the best Centre Half back in the county so he should absolutely be there.

We need to look at lads like

Tomas Reily (Killeshandra) (Myles can tell us what the deal is with him????)
Brendan Murray(Killygarry)
Donal Thomas(playing outstanding stuff for Killygarry this year)
Sean Mac(who had a stormer of a game on both Ray Galligan and Niall McKiernan last week)
Conor Madden(Gowna) (minor this year and an outstanding prospect with size and heaps of ability)
Conor Finnegan(Lacken) Another outstanding prospect with size and strength who can take a score from distance.
Cian McEnroe(Castlerahan)Minor panelist last year ik believe,a  big man with a massive left boot,whom has been scoring for fun from well outside 45 metres this year.

All lads around the 6'2 mark or over whom are good footballers. There are more out there also.
Gaelic Football is not a complicated science.
If you can get a big, athletic team and install a defensive system with a sprinkling of talented players in certain key positions,you can be competitive against nearly anyone in the country.


i 100% agree with alan clarke 1 best footballers in the county. was at the killygarry crahan game recently and murray and thomas got 2 hidings with murray been taken off at ht so dont reckon they are county standard. Def wouldnt go near finnegan or mcenroe either 2 big men with big boots but are in and out of there sen teams throughout the year
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on July 17, 2012, 05:22:41 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on July 17, 2012, 05:11:17 PM
Quote from: tommysmith on July 17, 2012, 04:56:44 PM
Quote from: Westside on July 17, 2012, 04:36:56 PM


I take it you saw the tweets I'm on about then tommy!? Funny enough in fairness but still the criticism is unwarranted I think. Tom Reilly has taken drastic steps to help improve football in Cavan, he's not there to make friends and he has never been afraid to upset the apple cart. He has more integrity than lads who take cheap shots on twitter because he challenged the status quo that they enjoyed so much. He has put the foundation in place for the improvement of Gaelic Games in our county and if we have the balls to see it through I believe it will work.

Yeah i looked them up, he does look like Pat Mustard though  :D

I have no respect for Tom Reilly, he stated at a County Board meeting that he or any member of county board had nothing to do with Vals exit only for Pauric Reilly to come out and say it was him or some member of County board who started the whole thing.  He also more or less bullied delagates into accepting Hyland as manager.

I'd agee with that. It was out of order for a county chairman to say that.

Keoghan wants him out and wants chairmans job himself, heard he wants Hyland out also.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cogito on July 17, 2012, 07:04:33 PM
I'm not convinced the likes of Mackey, Nesty and Co are better than what we have at present. I think in Smith, McDermott and Keating we have three players who will get better the more they play at this level.

One player I defo think could help us though is Alan Clarke. A half-back line of McCutcheon, Clarke and McKeever would bring a lot more physicality and leadership to our defence in my book.

Clarke has a lot of potential but he isn't ready to be a full-back at this level. Let him play in the corner and take some pressure off him. Hopefully Rory Dunne can commit and is fit from the start next year.

And if that is true about Keoghan he should learn to behave himself. He had his shot at the job. It's time to row behind a man who has delivered something basically no other manager since 97 has done - silverware.

Are many Cavan players on Twitter?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on July 17, 2012, 07:11:31 PM
Just about all the names I could think of who could bring a small bit of physicality and experience to the set up have been named and a fair few more so maybe there is hope. The only other names I can think of are M Hannon and Eoin McGuigan. I understand Hannon has retired but he cant be any more than 28 and was very good before injuries started to set him back.

Big pity if Dermot Sheridan is getting involved in this Twitter shitehawkery, don't really care one way or another about Nesty or Mackey I think there's plenty of the young lads who can improve on what they had to offer.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on July 17, 2012, 07:23:26 PM
Quote from: anglocelt39 on July 17, 2012, 07:11:31 PM
Just about all the names I could think of who could bring a small bit of physicality and experience to the set up have been named and a fair few more so maybe there is hope. The only other names I can think of are M Hannon and Eoin McGuigan. I understand Hannon has retired but he cant be any more than 28 and was very good before injuries started to set him back.

Hannon would be to busy going around the country supporting Johnston to put in effort with Cavan from what i am told.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cogito on July 17, 2012, 07:33:36 PM
Two points.

Holy god I just realised how tough Division Three is going to be next year  :o

Secondly. Hyland is harldy doing the u21's again is he?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on July 17, 2012, 07:37:59 PM
Quote from: cogito on July 17, 2012, 07:33:36 PM
Two points.

Holy god I just realised how tough Division Three is going to be next year  :o

Secondly. Hyland is harldy doing the u21's again is he?

This term is up with them and he wont be going for it again.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cogito on July 17, 2012, 07:43:03 PM
Thanks Tommy.

This board went awful quiet for a while. Glad to see there are still a few Breffni men around the country who keep a strong interest in our county team.

Sad that our season is over already but I suppose we should be used to it by now unfortunately  >:(
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on July 17, 2012, 07:47:12 PM
Quote from: tommysmith on July 17, 2012, 04:56:44 PM
Quote from: Westside on July 17, 2012, 04:36:56 PM


I take it you saw the tweets I'm on about then tommy!? Funny enough in fairness but still the criticism is unwarranted I think. Tom Reilly has taken drastic steps to help improve football in Cavan, he's not there to make friends and he has never been afraid to upset the apple cart. He has more integrity than lads who take cheap shots on twitter because he challenged the status quo that they enjoyed so much. He has put the foundation in place for the improvement of Gaelic Games in our county and if we have the balls to see it through I believe it will work.

Yeah i looked them up, he does look like Pat Mustard though  :D

I have no respect for Tom Reilly, he stated at a County Board meeting that he or any member of county board had nothing to do with Vals exit only for Pauric Reilly to come out and say it was him or some member of County board who started the whole thing.  He also more or less bullied delagates into accepting Hyland as manager.

In Tom Reilly's defence, did he not just ask Podge to gauge the feelings towards Val in the camp at a meeting? I can't remember the particulars but in Paul Fitzpatrick's report on the whole thing it seemed like a comedy of errors but TR never actually tried to get Val out. How did he bully delegates?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on July 17, 2012, 07:53:05 PM
Tom Reilly said at the meeting that he tried to stop the players meeting going ahead and had rang Podge and asked him not to have it.  He said that Podge told him it was going ahead.

Podge denies all this and says that PAT MUSTARD rang him and told him to have the meeting and to discuss what the players though of the management.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on July 17, 2012, 08:39:08 PM
Reilly was totally in the wrong over that whole fiasco. He appointed Terry Hyland in the first place as u21 manager so that probaly saved him some slack (winning 2 ulster u21s). Only for that he should have been made resign, he probaly should have been made resign regardless.

Important that they appoint a good manager for the u21's next year, very strong team next year again, hopefully we can make it 3-in a row. The juniors are well depleted for the All Ireland semi, Declan Mckiernan,Dara Tighe and Josh Hayes are all ineligible since the Leinster Final.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on July 17, 2012, 08:41:13 PM
Emm. Not sure if thats how it happened Tommy. I listened to an interview with Andrews on it. The way he explained it was roughly as follows...

- Players wanted to have a meeting.
- Tom Reilly told Andrews not to allow it.
- Andrews decided he would allow it and asked Podge to let him know if there were any issues.
- Tom Reilly also called Podge and basically asked him if there was a problem with management to let him know.
- After the meeting Tom Reilly and Podge spoke. This is where the disagreements arose. Tom Reilly picked it up (whether intentionally or innocently) that they players had expressed (or voted is the term Tom Reilly used) doubts in Andrews. Podge said this was untrue and all that had been done was that a few small concerns were raised which Andrews later said would have been easily solved. Tom Reilly had passed his take on the call onto Andrews who then resigned.
- Podge gave an interview to the Celt saying he was disappointed in Tom Reilly for misrepresenting what had come from the meeting.

Not sure about what Reilly said at a later meeting but thats the way I remember it.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on July 17, 2012, 08:52:47 PM
 there was a bogus result of 33/3 of a no vote in confidence in Andrews. Only 26 at the meeting ::)
Andrews thought he was voted out, and was talking about it on the radio and the next day it was revaled he wasn't. 

http://www.google.ie/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=anglo+celt+tom+reilly&source=web&cd=1&ved=0CFEQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.anglocelt.ie%2Fsport%2Fgaelicfootball%2Farticles%2F2012%2F04%2F19%2F4010111-what-a-crazy-game-this-is%2F&ei=AMEFUNDgMoPDhAfP0ujaBw&usg=AFQjCNFHSGM4GXF85S76-iS1wsl8Jf3Dmg
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on July 17, 2012, 09:24:44 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on July 17, 2012, 08:41:13 PM
Emm. Not sure if thats how it happened Tommy. I listened to an interview with Andrews on it. The way he explained it was roughly as follows...

- Players wanted to have a meeting.
- Tom Reilly told Andrews not to allow it.
- Andrews decided he would allow it and asked Podge to let him know if there were any issues.
- Tom Reilly also called Podge and basically asked him if there was a problem with management to let him know.
- After the meeting Tom Reilly and Podge spoke. This is where the disagreements arose. Tom Reilly picked it up (whether intentionally or innocently) that they players had expressed (or voted is the term Tom Reilly used) doubts in Andrews. Podge said this was untrue and all that had been done was that a few small concerns were raised which Andrews later said would have been easily solved. Tom Reilly had passed his take on the call onto Andrews who then resigned.
- Podge gave an interview to the Celt saying he was disappointed in Tom Reilly for misrepresenting what had come from the meeting.

Not sure about what Reilly said at a later meeting but thats the way I remember it.



I was at the County board meeting Myles i know what Tom Reilly said to us that night and then Podge rubbished it all a few days later. 

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on July 17, 2012, 09:54:05 PM
Quote from: tommysmith on July 17, 2012, 09:24:44 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on July 17, 2012, 08:41:13 PM
Emm. Not sure if thats how it happened Tommy. I listened to an interview with Andrews on it. The way he explained it was roughly as follows...

- Players wanted to have a meeting.
- Tom Reilly told Andrews not to allow it.
- Andrews decided he would allow it and asked Podge to let him know if there were any issues.
- Tom Reilly also called Podge and basically asked him if there was a problem with management to let him know.
- After the meeting Tom Reilly and Podge spoke. This is where the disagreements arose. Tom Reilly picked it up (whether intentionally or innocently) that they players had expressed (or voted is the term Tom Reilly used) doubts in Andrews. Podge said this was untrue and all that had been done was that a few small concerns were raised which Andrews later said would have been easily solved. Tom Reilly had passed his take on the call onto Andrews who then resigned.
- Podge gave an interview to the Celt saying he was disappointed in Tom Reilly for misrepresenting what had come from the meeting.

Not sure about what Reilly said at a later meeting but thats the way I remember it.



I was at the County board meeting Myles i know what Tom Reilly said to us that night and then Podge rubbished it all a few days later.

Fair enough, I wasn't so I'll take your word for it. That was handled badly for sure but at the same time Andrews was bringing us backwards in my opinion.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on July 17, 2012, 10:04:30 PM
I agree but the chairman should have had the balls to go to Val and tell him his services were not required anymore instead of setting up the players.

Its going to be a tough few yrs ahead for Cavan football.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on July 17, 2012, 11:13:47 PM
Who do you lads reckon will take  the club championships.

Senior- Its hard to look past the Gaels again.
Intermediate-Lacken would have to be strong favourites.
Junior- Its a hard one to pick, Laragh and Munterconnacht will be strong, Shannon Gaels have lost alot of players so i don't know if they will be as strong as they were.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on July 18, 2012, 09:56:08 AM
I think Kingscourt have a good chance in the senior chamionship. They have done decent so far this year without a full team available, they should be close to full strength for champo. Dudley Farrel is back with them this year so thats a big help. Manager from 2008-2010 when they won the championship. Gaels will still be the team to beat, lots of players to replace Johnston, although he is still a big loss. Castlerahan are going well this year too, they didn't show up for co final last year, they are alot better than that showing.

Crosserlough, Ballyhaise and my own club lacken are the mian teams in intermediate. Lacken have lost the last 3 games in the league, so confidence wouldn't be as high as it was a few weeks ago. Ballyhaise have a talented team but never deliver in intermediate for some reason. Good win last week against Lacken. They might pick up form now. Crosserlough have johnny Crowe back recently from injury, he was a big loss for crosserlough last year.

Junior. I think Arva are good outside bet, Some very talenetd players, few older players like Dermot McGlade and Gavin Doyle have experience. Laragh should be close, and obviously shannon gaels , munterconnaght. I think eamonn reilly isn't available for shannon gaels this year, very good player.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tierworker blue on July 18, 2012, 02:16:37 PM
Lads, when is that Junior semi final...anyone have the date handy?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on July 18, 2012, 02:20:06 PM
Quote from: tierworker blue on July 18, 2012, 02:16:37 PM
Lads, when is that Junior semi final...anyone have the date handy?

The Cavan Junior Championship?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tierworker blue on July 18, 2012, 03:03:01 PM
Sorry, my bad...I meant the All Ireland Junior C'ship. There's no date for the next match on the GAA site, and I was wondering if anyone knew when the lads are playing next.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Blue06 on July 18, 2012, 03:07:55 PM
AI Junior SF v Kerry is on Sat Aug 11th
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tierworker blue on July 18, 2012, 03:09:07 PM
Fair play...cheers!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on July 18, 2012, 03:16:45 PM
Long time since Cavan played Kerry at any level. Think  the 97 All Ireland semi was the last time.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on July 18, 2012, 08:28:51 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on July 18, 2012, 03:16:45 PM
Long time since Cavan played Kerry at any level. Think  the 97 All Ireland semi was the last time.

They played them in a league game in New York a few months later.


Anyone see Brollys Article from irish mail last sunday http://www.seangarvan.ie/brolly.pdf (ftp://www.seangarvan.ie/brolly.pdf)


And one for myles http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EJ-_wK2VUkk (ftp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EJ-_wK2VUkk)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on July 18, 2012, 10:52:28 PM
Sure if you believed the papers and all the other know nothings in this country they'd have you believe it was Cavan fans who were out congratulating the p***k. Have to say, those Kildare fans are sad f**kers chasing after a lad who played 8 mins, got a ridiculous free in front of the posts from a clown of a ref and they want him to write his name on their jerseys after betraying his own people. He won't even be playing with them next yr I wager. Brolly has it 100% right in his column.

btw - your links need to start with www not ftp for them to work
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on July 18, 2012, 11:55:02 PM
Giuseppe Brolly makes a clown of himself everytime he is on the Sunday game. The likes of O Rourke laugh at him rather than with him with his over the top bullshit. You would swear the players were on 50k a week. Some are unemployed as work is so tight, and that eejet rips into them. Irratating p***k.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on July 19, 2012, 10:47:25 AM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on July 18, 2012, 10:52:28 PM
. He won't even be playing with them next yr I wager.


That why some of the Gaels lads are still stuck up his ass.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on July 19, 2012, 02:26:05 PM
Quote from: tommysmith on July 19, 2012, 10:47:25 AM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on July 18, 2012, 10:52:28 PM
. He won't even be playing with them next yr I wager.


That why some of the Gaels lads are still stuck up his ass.

If they'd take him back then they are even more pathetic than Kildare.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on July 19, 2012, 02:36:01 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on July 19, 2012, 02:26:05 PM
Quote from: tommysmith on July 19, 2012, 10:47:25 AM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on July 18, 2012, 10:52:28 PM
. He won't even be playing with them next yr I wager.


That why some of the Gaels lads are still stuck up his ass.

If they'd take him back then they are even more pathetic than Kildare.

When Kildare are knocked out early he could be back with Gaels before end of Championship.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on July 19, 2012, 03:10:46 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on July 18, 2012, 03:16:45 PM
Long time since Cavan played Kerry at any level. Think  the 97 All Ireland semi was the last time.

Thank god for that.
Meeting them at senior level during the" naughties" would have resulted in scorelines like last Sunday and Cork two years ago.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on July 19, 2012, 03:11:38 PM
Quote from: tommysmith on July 19, 2012, 02:36:01 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on July 19, 2012, 02:26:05 PM
Quote from: tommysmith on July 19, 2012, 10:47:25 AM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on July 18, 2012, 10:52:28 PM
. He won't even be playing with them next yr I wager.


That why some of the Gaels lads are still stuck up his ass.

If they'd take him back then they are even more pathetic than Kildare.

When Kildare are knocked out early he could be back with Gaels before end of Championship.

Isn't he starting a teaching job in Kildare in September???
That is what i heard anyway.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on July 19, 2012, 03:19:53 PM
Quote from: tommysmith on July 19, 2012, 02:36:01 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on July 19, 2012, 02:26:05 PM
Quote from: tommysmith on July 19, 2012, 10:47:25 AM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on July 18, 2012, 10:52:28 PM
. He won't even be playing with them next yr I wager.


That why some of the Gaels lads are still stuck up his ass.

If they'd take him back then they are even more pathetic than Kildare.

When Kildare are knocked out early he could be back with Gaels before end of Championship.

How Tommy? Sure he has already played championship in another county. You can't play championship in 2 counties in the one year.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on July 19, 2012, 03:25:03 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on July 19, 2012, 03:11:38 PM
Quote from: tommysmith on July 19, 2012, 02:36:01 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on July 19, 2012, 02:26:05 PM
Quote from: tommysmith on July 19, 2012, 10:47:25 AM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on July 18, 2012, 10:52:28 PM
. He won't even be playing with them next yr I wager.


That why some of the Gaels lads are still stuck up his ass.

If they'd take him back then they are even more pathetic than Kildare.

When Kildare are knocked out early he could be back with Gaels before end of Championship.

Isn't he starting a teaching job in Kildare in September???
That is what i heard anyway.

That's good news if true and long may he stay down there signing jerseys.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on July 19, 2012, 03:33:00 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on July 19, 2012, 03:25:03 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on July 19, 2012, 03:11:38 PM
Quote from: tommysmith on July 19, 2012, 02:36:01 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on July 19, 2012, 02:26:05 PM
Quote from: tommysmith on July 19, 2012, 10:47:25 AM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on July 18, 2012, 10:52:28 PM
. He won't even be playing with them next yr I wager.


That why some of the Gaels lads are still stuck up his ass.

If they'd take him back then they are even more pathetic than Kildare.

When Kildare are knocked out early he could be back with Gaels before end of Championship.

Isn't he starting a teaching job in Kildare in September???
That is what i heard anyway.

That's good news if true and long may he stay down there signing jerseys.

I doubt it BHman is he that foolish to think he will be wanted down there after mcgeeney is gone.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on July 19, 2012, 07:57:52 PM
McGeeney has another year to run till 2013. I remember reading about that back in feburay that he was extending it for another year. He will have Johnston from the O'Byrne cup onwards, Johnston would be in full swing by the Leinster Championship. Couldn't see McGeeney leaving till he has at least a Leinster title, be surpised if they won the All Ireland this year, but you never know. Its Cork's to lose, Donegal might not be far off, dont think Dublim are as good as last year.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BigMac on July 19, 2012, 08:06:09 PM
Just read Brollys article there. I don't know what to make of him. Firstly, a little bit of research and he would find out that there were no Kingscourt, Virginia or Crosserlough men on the field for Cavan against Kildare. It's probably only a "for instance", but still if you're going to be criticising at least get the facts right. Then I don't know how I feel about him giving out about his counties current captain, for talking to the media when Brolly himself is "the media". Conor Mortimer may be a prima donna, but to say he has never done it at championship is a bit of a lie. According to my trusty wikipedia search, he has played in two all ireland finals, was top scorer in the championship in 2006, and has an all star. Maybe I don't watch as much football as I would like, or read the other message boards, but I always thought Paddy Bradley was a good footballer, and not a prima donna at all? Can anyone clear that up? Padraig Joyce has just come out and had a bit of a moan to the media - is he a prima donna as well? Actually, I've decided I think Brolly is a kn0b.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on July 19, 2012, 09:02:59 PM
Quote from: boojangles on July 19, 2012, 03:19:53 PM
Quote from: tommysmith on July 19, 2012, 02:36:01 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on July 19, 2012, 02:26:05 PM
Quote from: tommysmith on July 19, 2012, 10:47:25 AM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on July 18, 2012, 10:52:28 PM
. He won't even be playing with them next yr I wager.


That why some of the Gaels lads are still stuck up his ass.

If they'd take him back then they are even more pathetic than Kildare.

When Kildare are knocked out early he could be back with Gaels before end of Championship.

How Tommy? Sure he has already played championship in another county. You can't play championship in 2 counties in the one year.

Id say there is a way around it, you could play football for Drumalee and head up to Mullahoran and play Hurling so there must be a loophole there somewhere. 


Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on July 19, 2012, 10:25:42 PM
Niall Carew the Kildare selector is from St Kevins, the club Johnston is now playing with. Highly unlikely Johnston would say cheers for sorting the move to Kevins, but i'm heading off back to the Gaels for the championship. The championship is starting next week in Cavan, so not a chance..
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Ollie on July 20, 2012, 12:56:09 AM
It be interesting to see if McGeeney Starts Johnston against Limerick. He be in dire need of game time this late on in the year but it be tough to drop any of the kildare forwards after their display against us.. In any case I hope Kildare hammer them in the same manner in which they disposed of us. It be awful to think that Limerick could give them a stronger test then Cavan.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on July 20, 2012, 09:53:07 AM
Quote from: Ollie on July 20, 2012, 12:56:09 AM
It be interesting to see if McGeeney Starts Johnston against Limerick. He be in dire need of game time this late on in the year but it be tough to drop any of the kildare forwards after their display against us.. In any case I hope Kildare hammer them in the same manner in which they disposed of us. It be awful to think that Limerick could give them a stronger test then Cavan.

They wont walk through Limerick the same way as they did Cavan, Kildare will win but it will be closer than last week.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on July 20, 2012, 07:01:18 PM
Just logged on a while ago to read one of the funniest posts ever on the Cavan page and then, like magic, it disappeared. I'm not sure if the admin took it down or where the comedian that posted it did but luckily I have an almost photographic memory. It went something like this...

RichieJ -

This is my last post here. Ye are all a shower of bastard and c***ts and f**kers. Sad bastards on about Seanie Johnstone and Cavan Gaels. f**k off back to your own clubs ye shower of bastards and c***ts and f**kers. f**k ye all c***ts.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on July 20, 2012, 08:36:03 PM
Settle the head lad.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on July 20, 2012, 10:29:56 PM
Quote from: Richiej on July 20, 2012, 08:20:30 PM
I see your still obsessed with the Seabie thing.. 8 months later and you can't let it go mylestheslasher????????? I'm at the stage now where reading you hateful posts about Seanie has led me to believe you need a proper sorting. You can hide behind your mylestheslasher alias but some of your derogatory comments about Seanie have gone well over the top. My advice to you now is to keep your comments about Seanie to a very minimum before I blow your cover. Have we a deal. Because there are ppl asking who you really are. And as you kno I do know you. So shut up.... Deal??????? C

Myles has stated that he lives in Sligo. He has never hid his identity on here and if anyone was pathetic enough to go  to the bother, it wouldn't be hard to find out who he is.
As for giving him a proper sorting,I'd wager my hard earned salary that he would bate the shite out of you.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on July 20, 2012, 10:54:41 PM
Quote from: Richiej on July 20, 2012, 08:20:30 PM
I see your still obsessed with the Seabie thing.. 8 months later and you can't let it go mylestheslasher????????? I'm at the stage now where reading you hateful posts about Seanie has led me to believe you need a proper sorting. You can hide behind your mylestheslasher alias but some of your derogatory comments about Seanie have gone well over the top. My advice to you now is to keep your comments about Seanie to a very minimum before I blow your cover. Have we a deal. Because there are ppl asking who you really are. And as you kno I do know you. So shut up.... Deal??????? C

:D :D
Do your worst you clown.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on July 20, 2012, 11:04:26 PM
Ye should have a tussle in the Kilmore for Charity, Cavan fight night. Think they it around December.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on July 20, 2012, 11:19:19 PM
It's just a shame that Mod 3 will be along shortly and delete all of this,and ban Richie.
This is the most entertainment on here that there has been since Hollow Man labelled all of Drumalee as "knackers" and proceeded to shit himself in full view of the board when Boojangles revealed himself to be a Drumalee man.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on July 20, 2012, 11:23:01 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on July 20, 2012, 11:19:19 PM
It's just a shame that Mod 3 will be along shortly and delete all of this,and ban Richie.
This is the most entertainment on here since Hollow Man labelled all of Drumalee as "knackers" and proceeded to shit himself in full view of the board when Boojangles revealed himself to be a Drumalee man.

Ah hollow man was some boy. Mr pain might be enticed back if the craic continues. Anyway, if the mob come for me in sligo ye are all welcome to drop into mine for a cup of tea to watch me getting sorted.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on July 20, 2012, 11:26:28 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on July 20, 2012, 11:23:01 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on July 20, 2012, 11:19:19 PM
It's just a shame that Mod 3 will be along shortly and delete all of this,and ban Richie.
This is the most entertainment on here since Hollow Man labelled all of Drumalee as "knackers" and proceeded to shit himself in full view of the board when Boojangles revealed himself to be a Drumalee man.

Ah hollow man was some boy. Mr pain might be enticed back if the craic continues. Anyway, if the mob come for me in sligo ye are all welcome to drop into mine for a cup of tea to watch me getting sorted.

Maybe Richie is actually Seanie,  that would be some laugh!!!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on July 20, 2012, 11:35:10 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on July 20, 2012, 11:26:28 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on July 20, 2012, 11:23:01 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on July 20, 2012, 11:19:19 PM
It's just a shame that Mod 3 will be along shortly and delete all of this,and ban Richie.
This is the most entertainment on here since Hollow Man labelled all of Drumalee as "knackers" and proceeded to shit himself in full view of the board when Boojangles revealed himself to be a Drumalee man.

Ah hollow man was some boy. Mr pain might be enticed back if the craic continues. Anyway, if the mob come for me in sligo ye are all welcome to drop into mine for a cup of tea to watch me getting sorted.

Maybe Richie is actually Seanie,  that would be some laugh!!!

Nah, he's not but there was a very aggressive guy on here a while back that couldnt spell and that certainly could have been him. Westside put it to him and then he was gone.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on July 20, 2012, 11:36:54 PM
Hollow man was some craic in fairness wiped the floor with me and others so often it wasn't funny, well it was in fact, it was bloody priceless just didn't feel like it at the time.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on July 20, 2012, 11:41:17 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on July 20, 2012, 11:35:10 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on July 20, 2012, 11:26:28 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on July 20, 2012, 11:23:01 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on July 20, 2012, 11:19:19 PM
It's just a shame that Mod 3 will be along shortly and delete all of this,and ban Richie.
This is the most entertainment on here since Hollow Man labelled all of Drumalee as "knackers" and proceeded to shit himself in full view of the board when Boojangles revealed himself to be a Drumalee man.

Ah hollow man was some boy. Mr pain might be enticed back if the craic continues. Anyway, if the mob come for me in sligo ye are all welcome to drop into mine for a cup of tea to watch me getting sorted.

Maybe Richie is actually Seanie,  that would be some laugh!!!

Nah, he's not but there was a very aggressive guy on here a while back that couldnt spell and that certainly could have been him. Westside put it to him and then he was gone.

Then i'm guessing it is one of those lads whom is attached to Seanie's jockstrap ,who probably never even played senior for the Gaels, yet considers himself  to be an integral part of their success in recent times.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on July 20, 2012, 11:45:19 PM
That's a derogatory statement if I ever heard one, Richie attached to seanies jock strap! They'll be out to ballyhaise to give you the beating of your life for that ine :D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on July 20, 2012, 11:58:28 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on July 20, 2012, 11:45:19 PM
That's a derogatory statement if I ever heard one, Richie attached to seanies jock strap! They'll be out to ballyhaise to give you the beating of your life for that ine :D

They would have to find out who i am first Myles.
Nobody has guessed it correctly yet!!!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on July 21, 2012, 12:09:25 AM
Myles i would be on your side if your were fighting Richiej. I might not agree with your criticism of Johnston, but Richiej is a tosser. Doesn't want Cavan to do well and only wants the Gaels lads on the county panel, there is more clubs in Cavan than Cavan Gaels.. At least you supprt Cavan.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on July 21, 2012, 09:46:50 AM
Quote from: Richiej on July 21, 2012, 02:59:03 AM
Go away and worry about your own mickey mouse clubs and don't worry whether Seanie plays for the Gaels again or if the Gaels get on without him or not. It's not your concern. Just worry why shite clubs like killashandra, ballyhaise , Denn, drumalee and all these other mickey mouse clubs can't win a senior championship. Leave the Gaels business to the Gaels ppl. They don't need your concern. Sort and chat away about the shite clubs ye are apart of . Agree with yourselves, ask each other stupid f**king questions like when's the next game on and what time is it on at.. and clap each other on the back..typical bollox that goes on here.That should keep ye busy until next may when theres a new batch of u21s ready to make their senior debuts.... The Seanie stuff is a bit played out now..so leave it out.... Start getting obsessed with the shite clubs ye support and Chanel your energies into trying to make a silk purse out of a sows ear!!!!!!!

Any wonder people might dislike Cavan Gaels with people like you Richie. The likes of you give them a bad name. I know a good few in the Gaels club and they are all sound, i like to see them do well in the Ulster Club, they always struggle but I still like to see them do wel,l as they are representing Cavan. Cop on.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on July 21, 2012, 10:24:03 AM
Richie issuing personal threats against posters and Myles reminding us he has an opinion on Seanie it's like deja vu all over again here. I was personally advised by  PM a few months ago that I would be hunted down by a lynch mob and the cops would be involved also would like to report that I'm still alive and well although growing a beard and moving house every week is a bit of a pain. Maybe my tracks are a bit better covered than Myles'. The funny thing is that myself and a few other posters have been queueing up here over the past week to agree with one of Richie's main points over the past several months that some more experience from somewhere is needed in the County panel. Unfortunately the way the message is got across gets a fair few backs up, no wonder either.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on July 21, 2012, 11:00:02 AM
I feel a bit left out that I never got a threat by pm. And now those wonderful posts have been deleted, maybe he sobered up and realised what he did. Ac39 (if I've been removed from the ignore list) was it the bold Richie that was threatening you?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on July 21, 2012, 12:16:28 PM
Does anyone else think Richie might have genuine mental health issues? Anyone spouting that stuff on an internet forum couldn't be playing with a full deck..

Myles if you need a safehouse to escape the Gaels assassins we will shelter you in the wilds of West Cavan for as long as is necessary.   
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cogito on July 21, 2012, 12:20:43 PM
So is this a football thread or what's going on?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on July 21, 2012, 02:01:28 PM
Quote from: Westside on July 21, 2012, 12:16:28 PM
Does anyone else think Richie might have genuine mental health issues? Anyone spouting that stuff on an internet forum couldn't be playing with a full deck..

Myles if you need a safehouse to escape the Gaels assassins we will shelter you in the wilds of West Cavan for as long as is necessary.

I think you'r right Westside. I do more for my 'Mickey Mouse' club than Richie could ever dream of doing behind his PC in London. ::) Mouthpiece.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on July 21, 2012, 05:52:54 PM
Quote from: Westside on July 21, 2012, 12:16:28 PM
Does anyone else think Richie might have genuine mental health issues? Anyone spouting that stuff on an internet forum couldn't be playing with a full deck..

Myles if you need a safehouse to escape the Gaels assassins we will shelter you in the wilds of West Cavan for as long as is necessary.
Thanks lad but I fear I will not be safe anywhere. If only I had towed the line and not spoken my mind.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Swadman on July 22, 2012, 01:13:19 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on July 21, 2012, 05:52:54 PM
Quote from: Westside on July 21, 2012, 12:16:28 PM
Does anyone else think Richie might have genuine mental health issues? Anyone spouting that stuff on an internet forum couldn't be playing with a full deck..

Myles if you need a safehouse to escape the Gaels assassins we will shelter you in the wilds of West Cavan for as long as is necessary.
Thanks lad but I fear I will not be safe anywhere. If only I had towed the line and not spoken my mind.
Oh you will be safe in West Cavan allright. no-one past Belturbet knows we even exist, nor care, except for that lug TomSmith on HS who has taken to blaming us for "the demise of Cavan football"
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cogito on July 22, 2012, 01:50:48 PM
Yeah god forbid west Cavan produced someone like Gearoid McKiernan or Jason McLoughlin for our county teams...
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on July 22, 2012, 03:20:11 PM
Quote from: Swadman on July 22, 2012, 01:13:19 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on July 21, 2012, 05:52:54 PM
Quote from: Westside on July 21, 2012, 12:16:28 PM
Does anyone else think Richie might have genuine mental health issues? Anyone spouting that stuff on an internet forum couldn't be playing with a full deck..

Myles if you need a safehouse to escape the Gaels assassins we will shelter you in the wilds of West Cavan for as long as is necessary.
Thanks lad but I fear I will not be safe anywhere. If only I had towed the line and not spoken my mind.
Oh you will be safe in West Cavan allright. no-one past Belturbet knows we even exist, nor care, except for that lug TomSmith on HS who has taken to blaming us for "the demise of Cavan football"

Funny enough Killeshandra is considered west Cavan by many. In the next elections west Cavan, including Killeshandra, Belturbet and all you wild men out in the outer reaches will be voting in a Sligo Leitrim constituency. Tomsmith has to a windup merchant, nobody could be that stupid could they? I think he's the ross of carroll kelly of Cavan Gaels.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on July 22, 2012, 04:02:29 PM
Killeshandra would be the start of West Cavan... Cornafean wouldn't be known as West Cavan, Cornafean runs into Farnham which is Cavan Gaels area.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BigMac on July 23, 2012, 08:06:22 PM
Dammit! I didn't check the board for a few days and seems like I missed a good bit of craic. Can anyone sum up what happened? Did Richie threaten you Myles or what went on?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on July 24, 2012, 12:53:27 PM
Minor Championship 2012

Division 1

O'Raghallaigh Gaels - Kingscourt / Shercock
North Eastern Gaels - Kill / Drung / Laragh
Oliver Plunkets - Cavan Gaels / Killygarry
Lavey / Castlerahan
St. Joseph's - Killeshandra / Arva
Templeport
West Cavan Gaels - Kildallon / Corlough / Shannon Gaels / Swanlinbar

Templeport the only team trying it on their on their own, fair play to them.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on July 24, 2012, 02:02:55 PM
Quote from: tommysmith on July 24, 2012, 12:53:27 PM
Minor Championship 2012

Division 1

O'Raghallaigh Gaels - Kingscourt / Shercock
North Eastern Gaels - Kill / Drung / Laragh
Oliver Plunkets - Cavan Gaels / Killygarry
Lavey / Castlerahan
St. Joseph's - Killeshandra / Arva
Templeport
West Cavan Gaels - Kildallon / Corlough / Shannon Gaels / Swanlinbar

Templeport the only team trying it on their on their own, fair play to them.

Yea and only Denn, Crosserlough, Ballymachugh, Ramor, Drumlane and Mullahoran (the latter 2 are Division 3 League teams too) in Division 2

So only 7 clubs are going it on their own for the Championship....  Whatever way you look at it or feel about amalgamations that's a lot of Minors footballers who aren't going to be getting Championship football
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: TheThirdManning on July 24, 2012, 02:05:55 PM
The Gaels are amalgamating???  :o
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on July 24, 2012, 02:31:31 PM
Quote from: Thastheball on July 24, 2012, 02:16:26 PM
And another question, if an amalgamated team wins, which is very likely, would thy be allowed to represent Cavan in the Ulster minor club. I wouldn't have thought so

Whoever wins it will go into Ulster Club.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on July 24, 2012, 02:51:15 PM
Quote from: tommysmith on July 24, 2012, 02:31:31 PM
Quote from: Thastheball on July 24, 2012, 02:16:26 PM
And another question, if an amalgamated team wins, which is very likely, would thy be allowed to represent Cavan in the Ulster minor club. I wouldn't have thought so

Whoever wins it will go into Ulster Club.

Correct it is essentially a Tournament so they can... O'Raghallaigh Gaels played in it last season
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: drici on July 24, 2012, 03:00:35 PM
Quarter Final:
November 26th (Saturday)
O Raghallaigh Gaels(Cavan) 0-13  Erne Gaels(Fermanagh) 0-04
1-30pm

Quarter Final:
November 27th (Sunday)
Armagh Harps 3-09  Kilcoo Owen Roes(Down) 2-06
2-30pm

Preliminary Round:
3rd December (Saturday)
Truagh Gaels(Monaghan) 0-03  Glen Watty Grahams(Derry) 4-14
1-30pm

Quarter Final:
4th December (Sunday)
St Johns(Antrim) 1-09  Killyman-Edendork(Tyrone) 0-08
1-30pm

Quarter Final:
11th December (Sunday)
Glen Watty Grahams(Derry) 0-09 Naomh Adhamhnáin(Donegal) 0-04
1-30pm


Semi Finals:
18th December (Sunday)
Armagh Harps 1-07 St Johns(Antrim) 1-05
1-30pm

26th December (Monday)
O Raghallaigh Gaels(Cavan) 1-04 Glen Watty Grahams(Derry) 2-11
1-30pm


Final:
1st January (Sunday)
Armagh Harps 0-05 Glen Watty Grahams(Derry) 4-12
1-30pm
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on July 24, 2012, 03:31:40 PM
Templeport are trying this on their own with a view to making a proper stab at it next year I would assume. The Minor side walked Division 2 this year and are all Minor next year bar 1 player I think. They know their Senior team needs an injection of a lot of player asap so they don't want to lose any lads due to not getting game time in an amalgamated side.
That said they are a very small squad, they will have at least 4 players on the team, Kellegher, Raythorne, Devine, McAweeney who all are U15/U16 this year and they are likely to come up short against what look like extremely strong groups of teams.

Who is pushing these amalgamations? Surely none of the clubs are stuck for numbers to that extent? Anyone know if this is a CB initiative or is it clubs getting greedy for silverware? As said above, a lot of young lads are going to miss out on Championship football which doesn't seem like the right way to go.

That Cavan Gaels/Castlerahan/Killigary/Lavey amalgamation seems insane given the complete domination by The Gaels of Minor Championships in recent years.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on July 24, 2012, 03:38:25 PM
Quote from: Westside on July 24, 2012, 03:31:40 PM
Templeport are trying this on their own with a view to making a proper stab at it next year I would assume. The Minor side walked Division 2 this year and are all Minor next year bar 1 player I think. They know their Senior team needs an injection of a lot of player asap so they don't want to lose any lads due to not getting game time in an amalgamated side.
That said they are a very small squad, they will have at least 4 players on the team, Kellegher, Raythorne, Devine, McAweeney who all are U15/U16 this year and they are likely to come up short against what look like extremely strong groups of teams.

Who is pushing these amalgamations? Surely none of the clubs are stuck for numbers to that extent? Anyone know if this is a CB initiative or is it clubs getting greedy for silverware? As said above, a lot of young lads are going to miss out on Championship football which doesn't seem like the right way to go.

That Cavan Gaels/Castlerahan/Killigary/Lavey amalgamation seems insane given the complete domination by The Gaels of Minor Championships in recent years.

Cavan Gael and Killygarry is a separate team to Lavey and Castlerahan... It is insane the whole amount of them...

Having no Division 3 Championship after having a Div 3 League is a complete joke
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on July 24, 2012, 03:44:45 PM
Apologies I read that wrong, still for the Gaels to be amalgamating at all given that they have won, what, 8 out of the last 10 titles? Seems like madness.

I would love to see Templeport drawing West Cavan Gaels though. Some lovely footballers on both sides and the rivalry and situation in general would make it something fairly unique!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on July 24, 2012, 04:20:38 PM
It's a credit to a club like Templeport that they are going alone for the minor championship while the lots of the teams are made from amalgamations. They are a Junior club, while senior clubs like Cavan Gaels and Kingscourt amalgamate with other teams. Templeport should get out of Junior football soon enough, they are very good underage.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on July 24, 2012, 04:32:36 PM
Quote from: Westside on July 24, 2012, 03:31:40 PM


Who is pushing these amalgamations? Surely none of the clubs are stuck for numbers to that extent? Anyone know if this is a CB initiative or is it clubs getting greedy for silverware? As said above, a lot of young lads are going to miss out on Championship football which doesn't seem like the right way to go.

Greed for silverware i think and the CB cant be seen to be trying to stop it when you look at what they are going to be doing next year for the Senior Championship.

There should be 3 divisons and let them be graded on how they did in the league.

Like what addition is it to a club like cavan gaels who have dominated alot of the division 1 leagues and championships over the last 20 years to win a championship with Killygarry.  Is has got way out of hand.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on July 24, 2012, 04:42:59 PM
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Quote from: tommysmith on July 24, 2012, 04:32:36 PM
Quote from: Westside on July 24, 2012, 03:31:40 PM


Who is pushing these amalgamations? Surely none of the clubs are stuck for numbers to that extent? Anyone know if this is a CB initiative or is it clubs getting greedy for silverware? As said above, a lot of young lads are going to miss out on Championship football which doesn't seem like the right way to go.

Greed for silverware i think and the CB cant be seen to be trying to stop it when you look at what they are going to be doing next year for the Senior Championship.

There should be 3 divisons and let them be graded on how they did in the league.

Like what addition is it to a club like cavan gaels who have dominated alot of the division 1 leagues and championships over the last 20 years to win a championship with Killygarry.  Is has got way out of hand.

In fairness the Senior Championship next year should be of a good quality. The Gaels wont walk it like usual, The reason they decided to do it was to improve the quality of football and not have one sided games that happen sometimes in the Senior Championship. Whoever wins the Senior Championship next year will have earned it, the Gaels were lucky to get out of their group last year. I think they would be punished if they played like that next year.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on July 24, 2012, 04:49:08 PM
Yeah but the point i was making was the CB cant be seen to be stoping teams joining up when they will be making teams join up next year.

It will be interesting to see how it will go next year

Divsion 2 will have 20 teams so 19 games each.

Intermediate championship 20 teams and has to be finished by may/june, i would not like to be on fixtute commitee next year.


Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on July 24, 2012, 04:53:20 PM
Quote from: tommysmith on July 24, 2012, 04:49:08 PM
Yeah but the point i was making was the CB cant be seen to be stoping teams joining up when they will be making teams join up next year.

It will be interesting to see how it will go next year

Divsion 2 will have 20 teams so 19 games each.

Intermediate championship 20 teams and has to be finished by may/june, i would not like to be on fixtute commitee next year.




Division 2 into two sections next year. Division A and B, each division would have 10 teams, 9x2 so 18 games. Still alot of games, probaly a feburary start again next year ::)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on July 24, 2012, 04:55:39 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on July 24, 2012, 04:20:38 PM
It's a credit to a club like Templeport that they are going alone for the minor championship while the lots of the teams are made from amalgamations. They are a Junior club, while senior clubs like Cavan Gaels and Kingscourt amalgamate with other teams. Templeport should get out of Junior football soon enough, they are very good underage.

Some excellent underage in TP at the minute, I expect them to have perhaps 4 players on the Minor Panel next year and one or two every year after for the next 3 years at least. For a club hit so hard by emigration that haven't have a county player even at Minor Level since probably Shane Maguire back in the mid 90s it's a big deal. That said, like our county side it could be a false dawn, there are very few players there to bring these young lads on and already the signs of them going down the route of their predecessors and interest swaying towards drinking sessions instead of training ones.

The county board are pushing Senior Amalgamations but at least the lads not making the sides can still line out in the intermediate Championship. A fringe player from the Gaels for example losing out to a Killigarry man no longer gets Championship football at all? Doesn't seem quite right.
The O'Raighallaigh Gaels scenario was arguably an incorrect move by the county board but two wrongs don't make a right and for such a proud club setting such high standards I certainly didn't think the Gaels would wave the white flag in the battle against amalgamations so soon and go glory hunting themselves.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on July 24, 2012, 05:03:26 PM
Quote from: Westside on July 24, 2012, 04:55:39 PM
The county board are pushing Senior Amalgamations but at least the lads not making the sides can still line out in the intermediate Championship. A fringe player from the Gaels for example losing out to a Killigarry man no longer gets Championship football at all? Doesn't seem quite right.

Does that not make the Intermediate Championship a kinda Reserve one?

If the Intermediate & Junior Championships are finished by the end of June, damn near every fecker on those teams will go away for the summer regardless of leagues.  Plus the Ulster Club Competitions aren't till the end of October - some wait for them

it also means that the average club footballer i.e. one who won't make a 3 or 4 team (amalgamation), so you probably talking 12+ on every team will have no championship football at all during the summer months...  wow I can't wait to look forward to that...
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on July 24, 2012, 05:11:44 PM
Quote from: Celt_Man on July 24, 2012, 05:03:26 PM
Quote from: Westside on July 24, 2012, 04:55:39 PM
The county board are pushing Senior Amalgamations but at least the lads not making the sides can still line out in the intermediate Championship. A fringe player from the Gaels for example losing out to a Killigarry man no longer gets Championship football at all? Doesn't seem quite right.

Does that not make the Intermediate Championship a kinda Reserve one?

If the Intermediate & Junior Championships are finished by the end of June, damn near every fecker on those teams will go away for the summer regardless of leagues.  Plus the Ulster Club Competitions aren't till the end of October - some wait for them

it also means that the average club footballer i.e. one who won't make a 3 or 4 team (amalgamation), so you probably talking 12+ on every team will have no championship football at all during the summer months...  wow I can't wait to look forward to that...

You will be ok Cootehill will be Senior next yr  :P
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on July 24, 2012, 05:19:00 PM
Quote from: tommysmith on July 24, 2012, 05:11:44 PM
Quote from: Celt_Man on July 24, 2012, 05:03:26 PM
Quote from: Westside on July 24, 2012, 04:55:39 PM
The county board are pushing Senior Amalgamations but at least the lads not making the sides can still line out in the intermediate Championship. A fringe player from the Gaels for example losing out to a Killigarry man no longer gets Championship football at all? Doesn't seem quite right.

Does that not make the Intermediate Championship a kinda Reserve one?

If the Intermediate & Junior Championships are finished by the end of June, damn near every fecker on those teams will go away for the summer regardless of leagues.  Plus the Ulster Club Competitions aren't till the end of October - some wait for them

it also means that the average club footballer i.e. one who won't make a 3 or 4 team (amalgamation), so you probably talking 12+ on every team will have no championship football at all during the summer months...  wow I can't wait to look forward to that...

You will be ok Cootehill will be Senior next yr  :P

Oh dead certs!!  Then we will just have to play an amalgamated team of Kill, Drung, Drumgoon (assume they don't win the Senior Championship this season) and maybe Laragh as well...
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: CC1 on July 24, 2012, 05:20:17 PM
Quote from: hardstation on July 24, 2012, 03:47:20 PM
In for a penny, in for a pound after the complete farce of O'Raghallaigh Gaels was permitted last year.
Rubbish. Again, what do you suggest Shercock should have done? They didn't have enough players to field a team, as is the case again this year. This is due to the fact that Bailieborough couldn't commit to an amalgamation as Killann Gaels at minor and u16 level last year. O'Raghallaigh Gaels have a history of amalgamations so why not?

If we hadn't won, nobody would have said a word.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on July 24, 2012, 05:31:18 PM
Quote from: CC1 on July 24, 2012, 05:20:17 PM
Quote from: hardstation on July 24, 2012, 03:47:20 PM
In for a penny, in for a pound after the complete farce of O'Raghallaigh Gaels was permitted last year.
Rubbish. Again, what do you suggest Shercock should have done? They didn't have enough players to field a team, as is the case again this year. This is due to the fact that Bailieborough couldn't commit to an amalgamation as Killann Gaels at minor and u16 level last year. O'Raghallaigh Gaels have a history of amalgamations so why not?

If we hadn't won, nobody would have said a word.

If i remember right there was plenty of giving out about it as soon as it was announced.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on July 24, 2012, 05:35:23 PM
Quote from: CC1 on July 24, 2012, 05:20:17 PM
Quote from: hardstation on July 24, 2012, 03:47:20 PM
In for a penny, in for a pound after the complete farce of O'Raghallaigh Gaels was permitted last year.
Rubbish. Again, what do you suggest Shercock should have done? They didn't have enough players to field a team, as is the case again this year. This is due to the fact that Bailieborough couldn't commit to an amalgamation as Killann Gaels at minor and u16 level last year. O'Raghallaigh Gaels have a history of amalgamations so why not?

If we hadn't won, nobody would have said a word.

Think it was the fact that Kingscourt were MFL Division One Champions and then they were amalgamated...  Imagine if it was Cavan Gaels who won Division 1 league and then joined up with someone else...  the uproar would have been unreal
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: drici on July 24, 2012, 05:45:59 PM
page 676
http://gaaboard.com/board/index.php?topic=53.10125

from Ollie's post on.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: CC1 on July 24, 2012, 05:57:00 PM
This amalgamation had been decided at the start of the year, before the league. The fact that Kingscourt won the league didn't help with people's perception of the amalgamation but none of the critics ever came up with a solution to Shercock's issue of not having the numbers to field a team.

In the final Cavan Gaels, who historically you must remember are an amalgamation of two clubs in Cavan town, were within a couple of scores from winning the game. But for poor finishing, they probably would have won. Yet nobody has been up in arms over their dominance over the decades.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on July 24, 2012, 06:24:50 PM
Quote from: CC1 on July 24, 2012, 05:57:00 PM
This amalgamation had been decided at the start of the year, before the league. The fact that Kingscourt won the league didn't help with people's perception of the amalgamation but none of the critics ever came up with a solution to Shercock's issue of not having the numbers to field a team.

In the final Cavan Gaels, who historically you must remember are an amalgamation of two clubs in Cavan town, were within a couple of scores from winning the game. But for poor finishing, they probably would have won. Yet nobody has been up in arms over their dominance over the decades.

Look Kingscourt winning the MFL or how strong they were has nothing to do with Shercock.  Shercock didn't have enough players for a team then that's exactly what amalgamation are for.  I suppose people are a wee bit surprised, shocked at the lack of ambition (possibly not the right word) of Kingscourt and how they wouldn't continue on in the Championship after being crowned the top minor team in the county during the league

Quote from: CC1 on July 24, 2012, 05:57:00 PM
In the final Cavan Gaels, who historically you must remember are an amalgamation of two clubs in Cavan town

Not defending the Gaels but by that statement -  Denn, Laragh, Ramor, Cuchulainns, Castlerahan I think too are all also amalgamations

Part of their dominance is down to their pick but also down to how hard they work as a club training juvenile teams.  Might be an urban myth but I heard of one year they only missed a bare handful of Saturday morning training - one of which was Christmas Day.  Also a lot of other clubs are/were lazy

Quote from: CC1 on July 24, 2012, 05:57:00 PM
Yet nobody has been up in arms over their dominance over the decades.

What do you think the amalgamations are for now??
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: CC1 on July 25, 2012, 09:31:03 AM
Quote from: Celt_Man on July 24, 2012, 06:24:50 PM
Look Kingscourt winning the MFL or how strong they were has nothing to do with Shercock.  Shercock didn't have enough players for a team then that's exactly what amalgamation are for. 
I suppose people are a wee bit surprised, shocked at the lack of ambition (possibly not the right word) of Kingscourt and how they wouldn't continue on in the Championship after being crowned the top minor team in the county during the league
I completely understand that Kingscourt winning the MFL had nothing to do with Shercock, but my point is that the amalgamation was organised before the league had started. What you are suggesting whether with or without intent is that people thought Kingscourt should have pulled out of the amalgamation after the MFL and left Shercock without a team for the MFC. I'm sorry but it doesn't and shouldn't work like that, especially with the history the two clubs have together.

Quote from: Celt_Man on July 24, 2012, 06:24:50 PM
Not defending the Gaels but by that statement -  Denn, Laragh, Ramor, Cuchulainns, Castlerahan I think too are all also amalgamations
Absolutely, and neither I or anyone else had a problem with any of them despite their success (20 SFC wins between them) over the years. Why, suddenly, should O'Raghallaigh Gaels be any different?

Quote from: Celt_Man on July 24, 2012, 06:24:50 PM
Part of their dominance is down to their pick but also down to how hard they work as a club training juvenile teams.  Might be an urban myth but I heard of one year they only missed a bare handful of Saturday morning training - one of which was Christmas Day.  Also a lot of other clubs are/were lazy
Again, I don't have a problem with any of that. It is peoples hypocrisy over O'RG that I have the problem with. For what its worth, the O'RG players put in a serious amount of training long before people outside of Kingscourt and Shercock even knew about the amalgamation.

Quote from: Celt_Man on July 24, 2012, 06:24:50 PM
What do you think the amalgamations are for now??
I can only speak for my own club on this and they joined because Shercock and Kingscourt to a lesser extent struggle to field a team on their own.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Swadman on July 25, 2012, 02:18:34 PM
West Cavan Gaels - Kildallon / Corlough / Shannon Gaels / Swanlinbar

Just heard that Shannon Gaels have pulled out of this amalgamation. Don't know for sure why. Our lot can only now make up the numbers with  U-16's so they will look to get into Div2 
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on July 26, 2012, 09:32:52 AM
Minor Championship Fixtures

1.    Templeport v North East Gaels
Winners v West Cavan Gaels.



2.    Lavey/Castlerahan v Oliver Plunkets.


3.    St. Josephs v O'Raghallaigh Gaels.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: PhilsJemmysField on July 26, 2012, 03:55:30 PM
Lavey lost to the Gaels anybody at the Game ?

This time tmorrow the Bridge will have knocked the Haise for 6 and the Crowes from Lacken will be somewhere out in Loch Ramor, after we get at them ;D

Championship is great
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on July 26, 2012, 11:01:48 PM
I think the Killenkere lads jumpef into Loch Ramor towards the last five minutes of the first half tonight. They were well in the game, terrible shooting by them in the first half and they could have been well ahead at half time. killenkere didn't show up for the second half, and didn't score until 15 minutes into the second. Ye have a few useful players but didn't have enough quality to keep the pressue up.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on July 26, 2012, 11:34:57 PM
Ballyhaise beat bridge by 3 points too.

Good luck to killeshandra tomorrow against ballymchugh.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: packiedevlin on July 27, 2012, 09:17:23 AM
Bridge were 2 up on 23 minutes into the second half. Ballyhaise scored 5 without reply to win by 2.
Killeshandra and Ballymchugh could be fairly tight, BMH are going well at the moment beating some teams in Div3 quite comprehensively while Killeshandra arent going so well. They beat a poor Cornafean team a few weeks ago but last weekend they were bad against Cootehill, probably should have had the game won at half time but spurned chance after chance. They didnt turn up for the second half and only scored one point. Cootehill ran out deserved winners. If they play like that again BMH will beat them.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: PhilsJemmysField on July 27, 2012, 12:34:43 PM
Should have been 6 points up at HT but should have does not work in the real world, we were shite, onwards to the knocks and Larry YAHOO
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on July 27, 2012, 12:47:46 PM
Castlerahan - Ramor has the look of a good match tonight. Anton Reilly and McEnroe are obviously big losses for Ramor but they have a strong squad of players, jack brady, ado cole, stephen monaghan, stefan connolly. Castlerahan are the only team in Cavan unbeaten this year. Lots of good players, and plenty of forwards who can do damage.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Richiej on July 27, 2012, 09:41:58 PM
Quote from: TheThirdManning on July 24, 2012, 02:05:55 PM
The Gaels are amalgamating???  :o

The gaels amalgamated in the 70s at minor and u16 level with Drumalee , killyagarry and Butlersbridge to win the minor league in 71, hence the reason kieran o keefe, sean leddy rip. fergus and john costello and sean kane have minor medals.
Cavan posters here seemingly dont have a clue about their local club history, i bet there is no poster here will name the first plater from the st pats 72 hogan cuo team to make the cavan seniors?
Unuasual you might ask for a 19 year old .. seemingly nowadays they need 4/5 years at u21 to gain experience!
But at least we were contesting ulster finals back in the 70s on the strength of a minor win in 74 and a colleges win in 72...... nowadays we cant win a maqtch on the strength of 2 u21 titles and a minor title..

but we cant disagree with mylesthewanker here...
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on July 27, 2012, 09:46:06 PM
You tell em richT
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on July 27, 2012, 09:50:13 PM
Castlerahan beat Ramor 2-15 to 1-8 tonight. Going really this year, if they can maintain it is another thing..
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on July 27, 2012, 09:56:54 PM
Seemingly Killeshandra robbed Ballymachugh - scored 2 penalties in the last 3 minutes to win by a point 2-9 to 1-11

Drumlane beat Kill 0-9 to 0-7
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on July 27, 2012, 10:48:32 PM
Quote from: Richiej on July 27, 2012, 09:41:58 PM
Quote from: TheThirdManning on July 24, 2012, 02:05:55 PM
The Gaels are amalgamating???  :o

The gaels amalgamated in the 70s at minor and u16 level with Drumalee , killyagarry and Butlersbridge to win the minor league in 71, hence the reason kieran o keefe, sean leddy rip. fergus and john costello and sean kane have minor medals.
Cavan posters here seemingly dont have a clue about their local club history, i bet there is no poster here will name the first plater from the st pats 72 hogan cuo team to make the cavan seniors?
Unuasual you might ask for a 19 year old .. seemingly nowadays they need 4/5 years at u21 to gain experience!
But at least we were contesting ulster finals back in the 70s on the strength of a minor win in 74 and a colleges win in 72...... nowadays we cant win a maqtch on the strength of 2 u21 titles and a minor title..

but we cant disagree with mylesthewanker here...

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Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on July 27, 2012, 11:30:36 PM
Quote from: Richiej on July 27, 2012, 09:41:58 PM
Quote from: TheThirdManning on July 24, 2012, 02:05:55 PM
The Gaels are amalgamating???  :o

The gaels amalgamated in the 70s at minor and u16 level with Drumalee , killyagarry and Butlersbridge to win the minor league in 71, hence the reason kieran o keefe, sean leddy rip. fergus and john costello and sean kane have minor medals.
Cavan posters here seemingly dont have a clue about their local club history, i bet there is no poster here will name the first plater from the st pats 72 hogan cuo team to make the cavan seniors?
Unuasual you might ask for a 19 year old .. seemingly nowadays they need 4/5 years at u21 to gain experience!
But at least we were contesting ulster finals back in the 70s on the strength of a minor win in 74 and a colleges win in 72...... nowadays we cant win a maqtch on the strength of 2 u21 titles and a minor title..

but we cant disagree with mylesthewanker here...

Richie. You came on here last week verbally abusing not just me but everyone else on this thread using foul language I'd expect of a child. You then deleted that post only to come back and threaten violence against me and also threatened to tell people who I was. Then you deleted that post too. Now you are back again calling me a w**ker  while writing about something that I have not even commented on. As one of the other posters said you clearly have some mental issues you need to work on.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on July 27, 2012, 11:40:13 PM
Cavan posters here seemingly dont have a clue about their local club history, i bet there is no poster here will name the first plater from the st pats 72 hogan cuo team to make the cavan senior


Owen Martin from Templeport perhaps, what difference it makes to the current state of Cavan GAA I'm not sure particularly when it's posted by another clown I have on the ignore list but anyway can't resist a quiz question.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Richiej on July 28, 2012, 07:56:33 AM
Quote from: anglocelt39 on July 27, 2012, 11:40:13 PM
Cavan posters here seemingly dont have a clue about their local club history, i bet there is no poster here will name the first plater from the st pats 72 hogan cuo team to make the cavan senior


Owen Martin from Templeport perhaps, what difference it makes to the current state of Cavan GAA I'm not sure particularly when it's posted by another clown I have on the ignore list but anyway can't resist a quiz question.


The difference it makes is im just proving a point. Posters on here spouting shite about minor amalgamations which were going on in the 70s anyway.
And if you cant resist a quiz question i suggest you brush up on your answers. It wasnt Owen Martin. It was actually Hugh Reynolds.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Richiej on July 28, 2012, 08:06:59 AM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on July 27, 2012, 11:30:36 PM
Quote from: Richiej on July 27, 2012, 09:41:58 PM
Quote from: TheThirdManning on July 24, 2012, 02:05:55 PM
The Gaels are amalgamating???  :o

The gaels amalgamated in the 70s at minor and u16 level with Drumalee , killyagarry and Butlersbridge to win the minor league in 71, hence the reason kieran o keefe, sean leddy rip. fergus and john costello and sean kane have minor medals.
Cavan posters here seemingly dont have a clue about their local club history, i bet there is no poster here will name the first plater from the st pats 72 hogan cuo team to make the cavan seniors?
Unuasual you might ask for a 19 year old .. seemingly nowadays they need 4/5 years at u21 to gain experience!
But at least we were contesting ulster finals back in the 70s on the strength of a minor win in 74 and a colleges win in 72...... nowadays we cant win a maqtch on the strength of 2 u21 titles and a minor title..

but we cant disagree with mylesthewanker here...

Richie. You came on here last week verbally abusing not just me but everyone else on this thread using foul language I'd expect of a child. You then deleted that post only to come back and threaten violence against me and also threatened to tell people who I was. Then you deleted that post too. Now you are back again calling me a w**ker  while writing about something that I have not even commented on. As one of the other posters said you clearly have some mental issues you need to work on.


Your a fine one to talk about abuse... You have been abusing Seanie Johnston on here for 8 months.
Seemingly the word coming back from the Kildare move is that Cavan are light years behind in their approach to strenth and conditioning methods,fitness methods and also ball work in training.
So seemingly it doesnt matter what talent comes through if we continue to use out of date training methods.
Maybe Seanie should drop of some "boxes of mars bars" for Terry to feed the lads on when he heads back to Cavan town tonight !!
As you said yourself the "mars bars" seemed to have fattened Seanie up!
At least they havent affected his accuracy.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: CC1 on July 28, 2012, 10:25:40 AM
What training methods would these be exactly? Seeing as you know so much about Cavan football I am genuinely interested in this...
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on July 28, 2012, 10:43:44 AM
I never mentioned mars bars but don't let the truth get in the way of your anger. The traitor is gone, end of story and he'll win nothing where he is either no matter what guru trains them as they are not good enough.

As for this pathetic harping back to the 70's, an era where the grip we had on provincial titles at senior level was finally relinguished. Many of them were good for nothing but drinking and you know it. Now go away to some anger management classes like a good lad.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Richiej on July 28, 2012, 11:39:06 AM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on July 28, 2012, 10:43:44 AM
I never mentioned mars bars but don't let the truth get in the way of your anger. The traitor is gone, end of story and he'll win nothing where he is either no matter what guru trains them as they are not good enough.

As for this pathetic harping back to the 70's, an era where the grip we had on provincial titles at senior level was finally relinguished. Many of them were good for nothing but drinking and you know it. Now go away to some anger management classes like a good lad.

Traitor??? You still dont get it do you. You should really find out exactly what happened from the day Andrews dropped Seanie and 5 others right up to the Hyland being appointed. Find out the truth.i DID..And there are more to blame than Seanie,  Ask your buddy Steven.

Whether he wins anything or not is no concern of mine ,He has 8/9 senior Championship and 3/4 minor championship medals in the phoca and there not too many in Cavan that have that claim to fame.
Also he seems to be still capable of kicking the ball over the bar despite no full game played in 9 months.. and thats another thing not to many on the present cavan senior team can claim to be able to do.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cogito on July 28, 2012, 11:44:14 AM
Richie, I too would love to know about these training methods you speak of.

And as for claim to fame. His claim to fame nationwide is for deserting his native county and running off to chase medals. Get out of your bubble and go talk to some neutrals on the issue.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Richiej on July 28, 2012, 12:47:05 PM
Cogito ... Using remember directing any of my posts as an answer to any of your posts. As I said to mylestheslasher gets the facts straight before you talk about who deserted what and why. As you well kno Seanie is in Cavan more often than he is not and is approachable. Now I'd say he would "let you in" on the ins and outs of kildares training methods. I know a lot of their work on the pitch this time of the year involves the use of a ball... You know "football" the round thing..our attitude in Cavan seems to be if we get 30 lads to commit , not drink, do what they are told, live like hermits then we will have success in a few years just because they were successful at underage. That's just bullshit old-fashioned way... Because it's impossible to make a silk purse out of a sows ear. And hyland will prove that fact over the next few years.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on July 28, 2012, 12:47:13 PM
My buddy Stephen, ha shows how much you know about me.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: packiedevlin on July 28, 2012, 12:48:28 PM
Lads, can we just leave the seanie situation now , its done and dusted so lets move on. We're sick and tired of going over and over it again and again. Hes not worth talking about one second longer. We should be talking about the club championship or the Cavan junior game against Kerry and not seanie flaming johnson! In going with that, Killeshandra were mighty lucky last night with 2 pens in the last  5 minutes, it was very very harsh on BMH who were the best team for the full 60mins. Hopefully they can pick themselves up for next week and give Drumlane a good rattle. Killeshandra will have to improve greatly if they're going to stay in the championship very long as they're playing very poorly and have been in the last few games, a number of the players are just not performing for whatever reason. 
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cogito on July 28, 2012, 12:55:11 PM
Quote from: Richiej on July 28, 2012, 12:47:05 PM
Cogito ... Using remember directing any of my posts as an answer to any of your posts. As I said to mylestheslasher gets the facts straight before you talk about who deserted what and why. As you well kno Seanie is in Cavan more often than he is not and is approachable. Now I'd say he would "let you in" on the ins and outs of kildares training methods. I know a lot of their work on the pitch this time of the year involves the use of a ball... You know "football" the round thing..our attitude in Cavan seems to be if we get 30 lads to commit , not drink, do what they are told, live like hermits then we will have success in a few years just because they were successful at underage. That's just bullshit old-fashioned way... Because it's impossible to make a silk purse out of a sows ear. And hyland will prove that fact over the next few years.

This is a discussion board. Everyone is entitled to join in a conversation. That is the point. Duh!

Im with you on that Packie. We should forget about the county teams woes for now. Lets let our clubs have their time.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on July 28, 2012, 03:24:04 PM
Quote from: packiedevlin on July 28, 2012, 12:48:28 PM
Lads, can we just leave the seanie situation now , its done and dusted so lets move on. We're sick and tired of going over and over it again and again. Hes not worth talking about one second longer. We should be talking about the club championship or the Cavan junior game against Kerry and not seanie flaming johnson! In going with that, Killeshandra were mighty lucky last night with 2 pens in the last  5 minutes, it was very very harsh on BMH who were the best team for the full 60mins. Hopefully they can pick themselves up for next week and give Drumlane a good rattle. Killeshandra will have to improve greatly if they're going to stay in the championship very long as they're playing very poorly and have been in the last few games, a number of the players are just not performing for whatever reason.

Wasn't home for the game. Who scored the pens and what was the FF line that started?

I think Killeshandra should have a good team but the confidence must be low - sometimes winning a game in a poxy manner like that can get that little bit of momentum you need to go on a winning run.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Ollie on July 28, 2012, 08:15:43 PM
The last few pages on this thread make for tough reading with the usual few idiots getting involved in "bitch fight" type behaviour. I'm making a plea at the mods to ban posters who post constant rubbish & engage in personal spats with other users. The last thing we need is another hoganstand type forum.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on July 28, 2012, 09:15:50 PM
If I get the chop, it was emotional..
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Bananas on July 29, 2012, 02:46:45 AM
Hello to all, new to the thread and hope I can contribute in some way. Often read the comments here as most posters seem to be more open-minded and mature in comparison to those on Hoganstand and then I decided I'd register.

I see RichieJ has extended the audience to which he spouts nonsense to so as soon as I set up my ignore list (if there is one) I should be good to go!

Been to 5 of the club championship games so far this week and haven't really been impressed at all. Some of the football has been shocking. This was my rundown on events (apologies if it's too lengthy) :

Gaels vs Lavey:
The Gaels looked disjointed against Lavey but never had to take it up a notch because they looked comfortable throughout even though they never led by much at any stage. Lavey looked like exactly what they are, a young, inexperienced team but there is a lot of players to work with there.

Players who impressed me : Gaels - Martin Dunne and Mickey Lyng (sub) .. Lavey - Darren Smith, Shane Tierney and Joey Jordan

Players who disappointed me : Gaels - Conor McClarey and Declan Meehan .. Lavey - Karl Duke

Ballyhaise vs Butlersbridge
Only got in for the second half of the Butlersbridge vs Ballyhaise game so hard to comment but from the sounds of things I didn't miss much. Ballyhaise looked unsure of themselves in the second half but managed to rack up a nice tally in the end despite having a man sent off and the team looking short of ideas at times. Does anybody know is Ray Cullivan on holidays or injured? Could be a game winner for Ballyhaise in a close game.

Players who impressed me: Butlersbridge - No.21 at full forward caused problems (Unsure of name... Keith Gumley?)
Ballyhaise - Stephen Smith and Shane McKiernan

Players who disappointed me: N/A

Castlerahan vs Ramor :
Castlerahan ran riot against a shocking (albeit inexperienced) Ramor team. Ramor looked clueless as to what each player's job was and they didn't know what to do when they got the ball. Anton Reilly and James McEnroe are two huge losses though. Castlerahan looked very good and took their foot off the gas for the last few minutes.

Players who impressed me: Castlerahan - Oisin O'Connell (Kicked about 1-08), Cian Mackey, Enda O'Connell
Ramor - Aaron Farrelly (One good save, solid kickouts) and Simon Cadden

Players who disappointed me: Castlerahan - N/A
Ramor - Jack Brady, Damien Barkey, Ado Cole

Cootehill vs Drung: A tightly contested game that I would not describe as exciting by any means. Cootehill sealed the game with a well taken goal by Enda Hessin and Drung never looked like coming back. Joshua Hayes injured/away?

Players who impressed me: Cootehill- Enda Hessin, John McCutcheon (My motm)
Drung- Killian Monahan

Players who disappointed me: Cootehill- N/A
Drung - Barry Watters, Michael McEntee, Paddy McEntee

Belturbet vs Drumalee
An important game by all accounts but Belturbet's efficient target man tactics proved the difference in my opinion. Ollie Donohoes proved a handful on the edge of the square and Bleturbet are the first team that I have seen use the new square ball rule to great effect. He was indirectly involved in both goals as a high ball in on the square caused chaos frequently. Beltrubet's inaccuracy in front of goal may cost them against a stronger side though.

Players who impressed me: Belturbet - Mark Teevan, Johnny Klusche, Kevin McConnell
Drumalee - Mickey Brennan (Solid free taker), Damien Donohoe (Worked hard, some great passes)

Players who disappointed me: Belturbet - N/A. (Jayo and Bud got a nice goal each but will need to do more against a stronger team.)

Drumalee - Jimmy Fallon, Kevin Donohoe.


That's just my take on things. Would love to hear the opinions of others regarding the club championship and less talk about Seanie J and co!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Richiej on July 29, 2012, 05:49:58 AM
Quote from: Bananas on July 29, 2012, 02:46:45 AM
Hello to all, new to the thread and hope I can contribute in some way. Often read the comments here as most posters seem to be more open-minded and mature in comparison to those on Hoganstand and then I decided I'd register.

I see RichieJ has extended the audience to which he spouts nonsense to so as soon as I set up my ignore list (if there is one) I should be good to go!

Been to 5 of the club championship games so far this week and haven't really been impressed at all. Some of the football has been shocking. This was my rundown on events (apologies if it's too lengthy) :

Gaels vs Lavey:
The Gaels looked disjointed against Lavey but never had to take it up a notch because they looked comfortable throughout even though they never led by much at any stage. Lavey looked like exactly what they are, a young, inexperienced team but there is a lot of players to work with there.

Players who impressed me : Gaels - Martin Dunne and Mickey Lyng (sub) .. Lavey - Darren Smith, Shane Tierney and Joey Jordan

Players who disappointed me : Gaels - Conor McClarey and Declan Meehan .. Lavey - Karl Duke

Ballyhaise vs Butlersbridge
Only got in for the second half of the Butlersbridge vs Ballyhaise game so hard to comment but from the sounds of things I didn't miss much. Ballyhaise looked unsure of themselves in the second half but managed to rack up a nice tally in the end despite having a man sent off and the team looking short of ideas at times. Does anybody know is Ray Cullivan on holidays or injured? Could be a game winner for Ballyhaise in a close game.

Players who impressed me: Butlersbridge - No.21 at full forward caused problems (Unsure of name... Keith Gumley?)
Ballyhaise - Stephen Smith and Shane McKiernan

Players who disappointed me: N/A

Castlerahan vs Ramor :
Castlerahan ran riot against a shocking (albeit inexperienced) Ramor team. Ramor looked clueless as to what each player's job was and they didn't know what to do when they got the ball. Anton Reilly and James McEnroe are two huge losses though. Castlerahan looked very good and took their foot off the gas for the last few minutes.

Players who impressed me: Castlerahan - Oisin O'Connell (Kicked about 1-08), Cian Mackey, Enda O'Connell
Ramor - Aaron Farrelly (One good save, solid kickouts) and Simon Cadden

Players who disappointed me: Castlerahan - N/A
Ramor - Jack Brady, Damien Barkey, Ado Cole

Cootehill vs Drung: A tightly contested game that I would not describe as exciting by any means. Cootehill sealed the game with a well taken goal by Enda Hessin and Drung never looked like coming back. Joshua Hayes injured/away?

Players who impressed me: Cootehill- Enda Hessin, John McCutcheon (My motm)
Drung- Killian Monahan

Players who disappointed me: Cootehill- N/A
Drung - Barry Watters, Michael McEntee, Paddy McEntee

Belturbet vs Drumalee
An important game by all accounts but Belturbet's efficient target man tactics proved the difference in my opinion. Ollie Donohoes proved a handful on the edge of the square and Bleturbet are the first team that I have seen use the new square ball rule to great effect. He was indirectly involved in both goals as a high ball in on the square caused chaos frequently. Beltrubet's inaccuracy in front of goal may cost them against a stronger side though.

Players who impressed me: Belturbet - Mark Teevan, Johnny Klusche, Kevin McConnell
Drumalee - Mickey Brennan (Solid free taker), Damien Donohoe (Worked hard, some great passes)

Players who disappointed me: Belturbet - N/A. (Jayo and Bud got a nice goal each but will need to do more against a stronger team.)

Drumalee - Jimmy Fallon, Kevin Donohoe.


That's just my take on things. Would love to hear the opinions of others regarding the club championship and less talk about Seanie J and co!

Wow!! its a pity that Declan Meehan and McClarey dissapointed you... I must tell mickey you were dissapointed... He will be upset.
Great analysis of the game though, i can see where your contribution to this forum will be of some benefit for the assholes who dont live in Cavan.
At least you will know what time the games are on and that in itself can take pages here for mylestheslasher and his merry band of "yes nodding dogs"!!
My advice to you is dont go against mylestheslasher or you will have everyone inclucding" mr tommy agreeable smith coming in to back up mylesthe seanie hater!!
These wankers hate the hoganstand but they cant take their eyes off it for news. Their bollox wouldnt get printed there so the " seanie hater "myles would be banned long ago. He use to be there ... the p***k!
I see Seanie is just 3 steps away from the celtic cross.............Word is he will be back playing with the gaels soon......if that move rags mylesthe"seanie hater" well im all for it!
So bananas post away with your crap about who dissapoints you and who doesnt,
The Oliver Plunkett Cup Will still be around the Rossa come late Sept.
Pop in and have a look if your passing..........Maybe those Gaels players who have dissapointed you might be there to welcome you!
In the meantime keep your valueable imformation comming............and il be back next May when Sir Terry sends the soldiers out for battle in year 2 of the 4 year plan....
They say Sam is heading for Cavan in 2017!!
Well thats the plan anyway!!
I hope Antrim or Fermanagh or London dont spoil the party!!!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on July 29, 2012, 08:52:02 AM
Welcome bananas. Informative post, I'd be interested to hear your reports on the championship games each week. Castlerahan are unbeaten this year, to you think they are good enough to win it out. Would be good to have a few genuine challengers to the Gaels as it can only be for the better of Cavan football. Strong leagues such as one close to me in Mayo have 5/6 genuine contenders and that's what we need to see in Cavan. The senior amalgamations next year could make that a reality.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: CC1 on July 29, 2012, 10:00:30 AM
Quote from: Richiej on July 28, 2012, 12:47:05 PM
Cogito ... Using remember directing any of my posts as an answer to any of your posts. As I said to mylestheslasher gets the facts straight before you talk about who deserted what and why. As you well kno Seanie is in Cavan more often than he is not and is approachable. Now I'd say he would "let you in" on the ins and outs of kildares training methods. I know a lot of their work on the pitch this time of the year involves the use of a ball... You know "football" the round thing..our attitude in Cavan seems to be if we get 30 lads to commit , not drink, do what they are told, live like hermits then we will have success in a few years just because they were successful at underage. That's just bullshit old-fashioned way... Because it's impossible to make a silk purse out of a sows ear. And hyland will prove that fact over the next few years.
I think you'll find that the Cavan team do plenty of ball work in their pitch sessions richie.

As for your 30 lads committing and hoping for success, that is just laughable, success is demanded every time you step out on the pitch, if it doesn't happen then you keep trying and trying. When these lads fill out, and they will fill out with a few years of training together, we will see a huge difference in the level of performance. To say that they are not trying (which is what I think you're implying) is nothing short of insulting to these lads.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on July 29, 2012, 10:52:04 AM
Quote from: Bananas on July 29, 2012, 02:46:45 AM
Hello to all, new to the thread and hope I can contribute in some way. Often read the comments here as most posters seem to be more open-minded and mature in comparison to those on Hoganstand and then I decided I'd register.

I see RichieJ has extended the audience to which he spouts nonsense to so as soon as I set up my ignore list (if there is one) I should be good to go!

Been to 5 of the club championship games so far this week and haven't really been impressed at all. Some of the football has been shocking. This was my rundown on events (apologies if it's too lengthy) :

Gaels vs Lavey:
The Gaels looked disjointed against Lavey but never had to take it up a notch because they looked comfortable throughout even though they never led by much at any stage. Lavey looked like exactly what they are, a young, inexperienced team but there is a lot of players to work with there.

Players who impressed me : Gaels - Martin Dunne and Mickey Lyng (sub) .. Lavey - Darren Smith, Shane Tierney and Joey Jordan

Players who disappointed me : Gaels - Conor McClarey and Declan Meehan .. Lavey - Karl Duke

Ballyhaise vs Butlersbridge
Only got in for the second half of the Butlersbridge vs Ballyhaise game so hard to comment but from the sounds of things I didn't miss much. Ballyhaise looked unsure of themselves in the second half but managed to rack up a nice tally in the end despite having a man sent off and the team looking short of ideas at times. Does anybody know is Ray Cullivan on holidays or injured? Could be a game winner for Ballyhaise in a close game.

Players who impressed me: Butlersbridge - No.21 at full forward caused problems (Unsure of name... Keith Gumley?)
Ballyhaise - Stephen Smith and Shane McKiernan

Players who disappointed me: N/A

Castlerahan vs Ramor :
Castlerahan ran riot against a shocking (albeit inexperienced) Ramor team. Ramor looked clueless as to what each player's job was and they didn't know what to do when they got the ball. Anton Reilly and James McEnroe are two huge losses though. Castlerahan looked very good and took their foot off the gas for the last few minutes.

Players who impressed me: Castlerahan - Oisin O'Connell (Kicked about 1-08), Cian Mackey, Enda O'Connell
Ramor - Aaron Farrelly (One good save, solid kickouts) and Simon Cadden

Players who disappointed me: Castlerahan - N/A
Ramor - Jack Brady, Damien Barkey, Ado Cole

Cootehill vs Drung: A tightly contested game that I would not describe as exciting by any means. Cootehill sealed the game with a well taken goal by Enda Hessin and Drung never looked like coming back. Joshua Hayes injured/away?

Players who impressed me: Cootehill- Enda Hessin, John McCutcheon (My motm)
Drung- Killian Monahan

Players who disappointed me: Cootehill- N/A
Drung - Barry Watters, Michael McEntee, Paddy McEntee

Belturbet vs Drumalee
An important game by all accounts but Belturbet's efficient target man tactics proved the difference in my opinion. Ollie Donohoes proved a handful on the edge of the square and Bleturbet are the first team that I have seen use the new square ball rule to great effect. He was indirectly involved in both goals as a high ball in on the square caused chaos frequently. Beltrubet's inaccuracy in front of goal may cost them against a stronger side though.

Players who impressed me: Belturbet - Mark Teevan, Johnny Klusche, Kevin McConnell
Drumalee - Mickey Brennan (Solid free taker), Damien Donohoe (Worked hard, some great passes)

Players who disappointed me: Belturbet - N/A. (Jayo and Bud got a nice goal each but will need to do more against a stronger team.)

Drumalee - Jimmy Fallon, Kevin Donohoe.


That's just my take on things. Would love to hear the opinions of others regarding the club championship and less talk about Seanie J and co!

Great report Bananas. Oisin O Connell was brillant against Ramor. He has to be a certain starter for the All Ireland Semi. Himself and Enda were dropped for the Leinster final which i couldn't understand as they had been playing well up to that game.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cogito on July 29, 2012, 11:19:18 AM
I think it is time Richie was given the boot from this forum. Sick of logging in and seeing his foul-mouthed rants.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on July 29, 2012, 11:23:26 AM
Quote from: cogito on July 29, 2012, 11:19:18 AM
I think it is time Richie was given the boot from this forum. Sick of logging in and seeing his foul-mouthed rants.
Seems like the mods are on holidays!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Bananas on July 29, 2012, 03:03:45 PM
Quote from: Richiej on July 29, 2012, 05:49:58 AM
Wow!! its a pity that Declan Meehan and McClarey dissapointed you... I must tell mickey you were dissapointed... He will be upset.
Great analysis of the game though, i can see where your contribution to this forum will be of some benefit for the assholes who dont live in Cavan.
At least you will know what time the games are on and that in itself can take pages here for mylestheslasher and his merry band of "yes nodding dogs"!!
My advice to you is dont go against mylestheslasher or you will have everyone inclucding" mr tommy agreeable smith coming in to back up mylesthe seanie hater!!
These w**kers hate the hoganstand but they cant take their eyes off it for news. Their bollox wouldnt get printed there so the " seanie hater "myles would be banned long ago. He use to be there ... the p***k!
I see Seanie is just 3 steps away from the celtic cross.............Word is he will be back playing with the gaels soon......if that move rags mylesthe"seanie hater" well im all for it!
So bananas post away with your crap about who dissapoints you and who doesnt,
The Oliver Plunkett Cup Will still be around the Rossa come late Sept.
Pop in and have a look if your passing..........Maybe those Gaels players who have dissapointed you might be there to welcome you!
In the meantime keep your valueable imformation comming............and il be back next May when Sir Terry sends the soldiers out for battle in year 2 of the 4 year plan....
They say Sam is heading for Cavan in 2017!!
Well thats the plan anyway!!
I hope Antrim or Fermanagh or London dont spoil the party!!!

Another well-written, constructive post richiej. It's because of people like you that many neutrals dislike the gaels and like to see them losing. Speaking of ''assholes who dont live in Cavan'' doesn't it say on Hoganstand that your county is UK? Ironic...

Hopefully you'll be gone from this site by the next time I log on.


Agree Rodney Trotter. Both had a great game and although Ramor were poor they still had a job to do and done it excellently. Couldn't understand why they were dropped myself either!

Thanks mylestheslasher, Will be at the majority of them as I've little else to be!  ;)  I think it's hard to tell from one championship game but having seen them 3 times in the league I think they will be capable of beating anyone on their day, gaels included. (Although I don't think Mackey would be suited to playing midfield against a big Gaels 8 and 9). Gowna vs Mullahoran today will be interesting but I have my doubts as to whether either can mount a serious challenge. Kingscourt should beat Denn too and I don't think much can be learned from that game, will try to get in for it anyway though!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on July 29, 2012, 03:05:47 PM
Bananas dont worry about richiej it is obvious that he has mental health issues.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: packiedevlin on July 30, 2012, 03:16:08 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on July 28, 2012, 03:24:04 PM
Quote from: packiedevlin on July 28, 2012, 12:48:28 PM
Lads, can we just leave the seanie situation now , its done and dusted so lets move on. We're sick and tired of going over and over it again and again. Hes not worth talking about one second longer. We should be talking about the club championship or the Cavan junior game against Kerry and not seanie flaming johnson! In going with that, Killeshandra were mighty lucky last night with 2 pens in the last  5 minutes, it was very very harsh on BMH who were the best team for the full 60mins. Hopefully they can pick themselves up for next week and give Drumlane a good rattle. Killeshandra will have to improve greatly if they're going to stay in the championship very long as they're playing very poorly and have been in the last few games, a number of the players are just not performing for whatever reason.

Wasn't home for the game. Who scored the pens and what was the FF line that started?

I think Killeshandra should have a good team but the confidence must be low - sometimes winning a game in a poxy manner like that can get that little bit of momentum you need to go on a winning run.


FF line was Sean McKiernan, Daniel Luby and Cyril Reilly. Luby scored the first penalty and Declan McKiernan scored the second.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on July 30, 2012, 04:05:00 PM
Bananas you don't need to give your analysis on the Denn game theres a good fella.

Lest we forget.

GAA Football All Ireland Junior Championship Semi-Final – Kerry v Cavan on Saturday August 11th at 3:30pm in MacDonagh Park Nenagh.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on July 30, 2012, 10:40:40 PM
Quote from: Denn Forever on July 30, 2012, 04:05:00 PM
Bananas you don't need to give your analysis on the Denn game theres a good fella.

Lest we forget.

GAA Football All Ireland Junior Championship Semi-Final – Kerry v Cavan on Saturday August 11th at 3:30pm in MacDonagh Park Nenagh.

Shame a few lads like Declan McKiernan and Joshua Hayes are unable to play that match.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Swadman on July 31, 2012, 02:04:09 PM
They (UK) take tinterweb abuse more seriously than we do, it seems.
 
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-19059127

Still, we best mind our P's & Q's when "givin' out"........eh Rich?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Bananas on July 31, 2012, 03:31:02 PM
Quote from: Denn Forever on July 30, 2012, 04:05:00 PM
Bananas you don't need to give your analysis on the Denn game theres a good fella.

Lest we forget.

GAA Football All Ireland Junior Championship Semi-Final – Kerry v Cavan on Saturday August 11th at 3:30pm in MacDonagh Park Nenagh.

Haahaha, I think everybody who heard about the game will have the gist of what happened  ;)

Gowna v Mullahoran was really quite shocking. Is this the calibre of the teams that are going to dethrone the Gaels? Awful stuff...
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on July 31, 2012, 04:00:51 PM
The change of Format in the championship will improve the games. I doubt there would be hammerigs like the one Denn got on Sunday. I think Denn are out of their debt for Senior football this year, they are the only team from the Senior championship playing in Division 2 and they are very up and down in division 2.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on July 31, 2012, 11:04:51 PM
Quote from: Bananas on July 29, 2012, 02:46:45 AM
Hello to all, new to the thread and hope I can contribute in some way. Often read the comments here as most posters seem to be more open-minded and mature in comparison to those on Hoganstand and then I decided I'd register.

I see RichieJ has extended the audience to which he spouts nonsense to so as soon as I set up my ignore list (if there is one) I should be good to go!

Been to 5 of the club championship games so far this week and haven't really been impressed at all. Some of the football has been shocking. This was my rundown on events (apologies if it's too lengthy) :

Gaels vs Lavey:
The Gaels looked disjointed against Lavey but never had to take it up a notch because they looked comfortable throughout even though they never led by much at any stage. Lavey looked like exactly what they are, a young, inexperienced team but there is a lot of players to work with there.

Players who impressed me : Gaels - Martin Dunne and Mickey Lyng (sub) .. Lavey - Darren Smith, Shane Tierney and Joey Jordan

Players who disappointed me : Gaels - Conor McClarey and Declan Meehan .. Lavey - Karl Duke

Ballyhaise vs Butlersbridge
Only got in for the second half of the Butlersbridge vs Ballyhaise game so hard to comment but from the sounds of things I didn't miss much. Ballyhaise looked unsure of themselves in the second half but managed to rack up a nice tally in the end despite having a man sent off and the team looking short of ideas at times. Does anybody know is Ray Cullivan on holidays or injured? Could be a game winner for Ballyhaise in a close game.

Players who impressed me: Butlersbridge - No.21 at full forward caused problems (Unsure of name... Keith Gumley?)
Ballyhaise - Stephen Smith and Shane McKiernan

Players who disappointed me: N/A

Castlerahan vs Ramor :
Castlerahan ran riot against a shocking (albeit inexperienced) Ramor team. Ramor looked clueless as to what each player's job was and they didn't know what to do when they got the ball. Anton Reilly and James McEnroe are two huge losses though. Castlerahan looked very good and took their foot off the gas for the last few minutes.

Players who impressed me: Castlerahan - Oisin O'Connell (Kicked about 1-08), Cian Mackey, Enda O'Connell
Ramor - Aaron Farrelly (One good save, solid kickouts) and Simon Cadden

Players who disappointed me: Castlerahan - N/A
Ramor - Jack Brady, Damien Barkey, Ado Cole

Cootehill vs Drung: A tightly contested game that I would not describe as exciting by any means. Cootehill sealed the game with a well taken goal by Enda Hessin and Drung never looked like coming back. Joshua Hayes injured/away?

Players who impressed me: Cootehill- Enda Hessin, John McCutcheon (My motm)
Drung- Killian Monahan

Players who disappointed me: Cootehill- N/A
Drung - Barry Watters, Michael McEntee, Paddy McEntee

Belturbet vs Drumalee
An important game by all accounts but Belturbet's efficient target man tactics proved the difference in my opinion. Ollie Donohoes proved a handful on the edge of the square and Bleturbet are the first team that I have seen use the new square ball rule to great effect. He was indirectly involved in both goals as a high ball in on the square caused chaos frequently. Beltrubet's inaccuracy in front of goal may cost them against a stronger side though.

Players who impressed me: Belturbet - Mark Teevan, Johnny Klusche, Kevin McConnell
Drumalee - Mickey Brennan (Solid free taker), Damien Donohoe (Worked hard, some great passes)

Players who disappointed me: Belturbet - N/A. (Jayo and Bud got a nice goal each but will need to do more against a stronger team.)

Drumalee - Jimmy Fallon, Kevin Donohoe.


That's just my take on things. Would love to hear the opinions of others regarding the club championship and less talk about Seanie J and co!

Welcome Bananas. Informative first post and it's great to have somebody who has an interest in the club scene and has the time to attend. Keep it up!
And I hope you have gotten over the disappointment of the above players performances. To disappoint paying spectators is the last thing any club player wants to do and I hope all the above players will endeavour to improve their performances tenfold to avoid any further disappointments. :P
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Bananas on July 31, 2012, 11:24:48 PM
Quote from: boojangles on July 31, 2012, 11:04:51 PM
Welcome Bananas. Informative first post and it's great to have somebody who has an interest in the club scene and has the time to attend. Keep it up!
And I hope you have gotten over the disappointment of the above players performances. To disappoint paying spectators is the last thing any club player wants to do and I hope all the above players will endeavour to improve their performances tenfold to avoid any further disappointments. :P

Maybe disappointed wasn't a good word to use! I do feel a like a bit of a pr*** bad mouthing players when they put in so much effort and all that but you have to admit it's very hard to discuss a game with someone without criticising anyone?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on August 01, 2012, 12:09:32 AM
Quote from: Bananas on July 31, 2012, 11:24:48 PM
Quote from: boojangles on July 31, 2012, 11:04:51 PM
Welcome Bananas. Informative first post and it's great to have somebody who has an interest in the club scene and has the time to attend. Keep it up!
And I hope you have gotten over the disappointment of the above players performances. To disappoint paying spectators is the last thing any club player wants to do and I hope all the above players will endeavour to improve their performances tenfold to avoid any further disappointments. :P

Maybe disappointed wasn't a good word to use! I do feel a like a bit of a pr*** bad mouthing players when they put in so much effort and all that but you have to admit it's very hard to discuss a game with someone without criticising anyone?

I'm only slagging ya! If any of the players are reading they will no doubt use it as motivation to improve for the next game. A bit of criticism never did anybody any harm!! As long as it's not personal abuse.....
You mentioned Ray Cullivan. I have heard that he is taking a break from football. Will no doubt be a huge loss to Ballyhaise. They definitely could have done with somebody like him Thursday evening.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on August 01, 2012, 12:23:27 PM
Quote from: boojangles on August 01, 2012, 12:09:32 AM
Quote from: Bananas on July 31, 2012, 11:24:48 PM
Quote from: boojangles on July 31, 2012, 11:04:51 PM
Welcome Bananas. Informative first post and it's great to have somebody who has an interest in the club scene and has the time to attend. Keep it up!
And I hope you have gotten over the disappointment of the above players performances. To disappoint paying spectators is the last thing any club player wants to do and I hope all the above players will endeavour to improve their performances tenfold to avoid any further disappointments. :P

Maybe disappointed wasn't a good word to use! I do feel a like a bit of a pr*** bad mouthing players when they put in so much effort and all that but you have to admit it's very hard to discuss a game with someone without criticising anyone?

I'm only slagging ya! If any of the players are reading they will no doubt use it as motivation to improve for the next game. A bit of criticism never did anybody any harm!! As long as it's not personal abuse.....
You mentioned Ray Cullivan. I have heard that he is taking a break from football. Will no doubt be a huge loss to Ballyhaise. They definitely could have done with somebody like him Thursday evening.

Its a pity you weren't as shite on the Wednesday of the week before!!!!!  ;D
As for Cullivan, well we have all heard the saying, if you can't say nothing good about something, say nothing at all.
So its a big No comment from me about the situation.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on August 01, 2012, 01:05:31 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on August 01, 2012, 12:23:27 PM
Quote from: boojangles on August 01, 2012, 12:09:32 AM
Quote from: Bananas on July 31, 2012, 11:24:48 PM
Quote from: boojangles on July 31, 2012, 11:04:51 PM
Welcome Bananas. Informative first post and it's great to have somebody who has an interest in the club scene and has the time to attend. Keep it up!
And I hope you have gotten over the disappointment of the above players performances. To disappoint paying spectators is the last thing any club player wants to do and I hope all the above players will endeavour to improve their performances tenfold to avoid any further disappointments. :P

Maybe disappointed wasn't a good word to use! I do feel a like a bit of a pr*** bad mouthing players when they put in so much effort and all that but you have to admit it's very hard to discuss a game with someone without criticising anyone?

I'm only slagging ya! If any of the players are reading they will no doubt use it as motivation to improve for the next game. A bit of criticism never did anybody any harm!! As long as it's not personal abuse.....
You mentioned Ray Cullivan. I have heard that he is taking a break from football. Will no doubt be a huge loss to Ballyhaise. They definitely could have done with somebody like him Thursday evening.

Its a pity you weren't as shite on the Wednesday of the week before!!!!!  ;D
As for Cullivan, well we have all heard the saying, if you can't say nothing good about something, say nothing at all.
So its a big No comment from me about the situation.
Now now BH Man, disappointing maybe but shite, never!!  :P
I'm not trying to justify what Ray is doing. If it was my club I know what my reaction would be to a lad taking a break during championship. But I suppose it's an amateur sport and nobody can force a lad to play if his head isn't right.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Bananas on August 01, 2012, 01:45:55 PM
Quote from: boojangles on August 01, 2012, 01:05:31 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on August 01, 2012, 12:23:27 PM
Quote from: boojangles on August 01, 2012, 12:09:32 AM
I'm only slagging ya! If any of the players are reading they will no doubt use it as motivation to improve for the next game. A bit of criticism never did anybody any harm!! As long as it's not personal abuse.....
You mentioned Ray Cullivan. I have heard that he is taking a break from football. Will no doubt be a huge loss to Ballyhaise. They definitely could have done with somebody like him Thursday evening.

Its a pity you weren't as shite on the Wednesday of the week before!!!!!  ;D
As for Cullivan, well we have all heard the saying, if you can't say nothing good about something, say nothing at all.
So its a big No comment from me about the situation.
Now now BH Man, disappointing maybe but shite, never!!  :P
I'm not trying to justify what Ray is doing. If it was my club I know what my reaction would be to a lad taking a break during championship. But I suppose it's an amateur sport and nobody can force a lad to play if his head isn't right.

Ahh I know ya are yeah  ;) .. Agree with the personal abuse comment too, no need for it in an amateur sport. Yeah he will be a massive loss, can't really see them going the distance without him especially with the likes of Lacken and Crosserlough looking strong. They should still make it through the group though.

Well put BHM. Do you think he might make a return this season at all, even in the later stages of the championship? (''No comment'' again if you wish :) )
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on August 01, 2012, 01:53:38 PM
Its strange that he is taking a break as he hasn't played alot of football this year. Played very little with Cavan and I heard he didn't show up for a few league games with Ballyhaise. If he wanted to make his mark for the County team next he isn't showing it. Very good player, but has never delivered on his potential when he first broke onto the Cavan panel for some reason.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: TheThirdManning on August 01, 2012, 03:10:23 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on August 01, 2012, 01:53:38 PM
Its strange that he is taking a break as he hasn't played alot of football this year. Played very little with Cavan and I heard he didn't show up for a few league games with Ballyhaise. If he wanted to make his mark for the County team next he isn't showing it. Very good player, but has never delivered on his potential when he first broke onto the Cavan panel for some reason.

Just because he hasn't played a lot doesn't mean he hasn't trained a lot. The chap might be burned out.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on August 01, 2012, 03:46:18 PM
I would love to see Ray Cullivan taking a decent break from the game, come back and work hard and become a strong asset to the Cavan team, he is still young despite all the football he has played and is coming into his prime years. If he can get his head right and control his game more he has a lot to offer. Although that might not help Ballyhaise in the short term..
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on August 01, 2012, 08:27:58 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on August 01, 2012, 01:53:38 PM
Its strange that he is taking a break as he hasn't played alot of football this year. Played very little with Cavan and I heard he didn't show up for a few league games with Ballyhaise. If he wanted to make his mark for the County team next he isn't showing it. Very good player, but has never delivered on his potential when he first broke onto the Cavan panel for some reason.

I never said he mightn't have trained, obviously he has been training since Januray like any other county player. He left the panel a few days before the Kildare game and did the same a few years ago when he wasn't picked to play Fermanagh. He played very little under age with Ballyhaise as he wanted to focus on county. I have nothing against him, but maybe he has too big an opinion of himself.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on August 01, 2012, 11:12:17 PM
Why does he think he is worthy of a place on the Cavan team, he hasn't played a really good game in a couple of years. I don't like saying that as I genuinely thought he was destined for great things. Maybe he needs a break to get his head right but he could have played for a couple of more weeks with ballyhaise and then took his break. I'd say his team mates feel let down, I hope they all up their games to compensate.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on August 01, 2012, 11:17:35 PM
http://hoganstand.com/Cavan/ArticleForm.aspx?ID=174593

Cavan Gaels excuse for minor amalgamation. Reads like a load of bollix to me. How many excuses does her give?

Lads on holidays
Other sports
Amalgamated team won last yr.
Trying to bring lads on.

Which one is it?

County board need to put some rules in place for amalgamations or there will soon be only 2 teams in the championship.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on August 01, 2012, 11:29:40 PM
Lads
Theres more to the story than what some of ye may know or think but its not something that has a place on a public forum.


Weekend Predictions
Thursday 2nd August

Hotel Kilmore Intermediate Football Championship

Round 2 Group 1
Cavan Gaels v Bailieborough  - Baileborough by 3


Round 2 Group 2
Drumlane v Ballymachugh- Ballymachugh by 2




Friday 3rd August

Hotel Kilmore Intermediate Football Championship

Round 2 Group 2
Kill v Killeshandra - Killeshandra by 6


Round 2 Group 3
Knockbride v Killinkere- Draw


Round 2 Group 4
Butlersbridge v Cootehill- Cootehill by 5


Hotel Kilmore Junior Football Championship

Round 1 Replay
Arva v Munterconnaught - Arva by 3


Hotel Kilmore Senior Football Championship

Round 2 Group 3
Killygarryv Mullahoran - Mullahoran by 3




Saturday 4th August


Hotel Kilmore Junior Football Championship

Round 2
Kildallon v Corlough  - Corlough by 1


Round 1 Replay
Templeport v Shannon Gaels- Shannon Gaels by 5



Hotel Kilmore Intermediate Football Championship

Round 2 Group 3
Shercock v Lacken- Lacken by 4


Hotel Kilmore Senior Football Championship

Round 2 Group 3
Cuchullainns v Gowna- Cuchullains by 3


Hotel Kilmore Senior Football Championship

Round 2 Group 2
Denn v Cavan Gaels - Cavan Gaels by 13

Kingscourt v Lavey - Kingscourt by 5



Sunday 5th August

Hotel Kilmore Intermediate Football Championship

Round 2 Group 1
Swanlinbar v Crosserlough - Swad by 2


Hotel Kilmore Senior Football Championship

Round 2 Group 1
Drumgoon v Ramor United - Ramor by 3


Hotel Kilmore Intermediate Football Championship

Round 2 Group 4
Ballyhaise v Drung - Ballyhaise by 2

Hotel Kilmore Senior Football Championship

Round 2 Group 1
Redhills v Castlerahan - C'rahan by 5

Round 2 Group 4
Drumalee v Ballinagh - draw

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Bananas on August 02, 2012, 12:07:04 AM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on August 01, 2012, 11:12:17 PM
Why does he think he is worthy of a place on the Cavan team, he hasn't played a really good game in a couple of years. I don't like saying that as I genuinely thought he was destined for great things. Maybe he needs a break to get his head right but he could have played for a couple of more weeks with ballyhaise and then took his break. I'd say his team mates feel let down, I hope they all up their games to compensate.

That's very harsh in my opinion. I get to a lot of games and seen him play 4 times last year and in each game he stood out as the best player on the pitch. I think Cullivan's style of play attracts criticism from others but having spoken to a few that play alongside him they don't have a bad word to say about the man. He also left himself open to abuse when he got sent off against Donegal last year but again, this isn't enough to label a player on.

If any player feels he needs to get a break from the game and clear his head then they are dead right. Nobody is contracted to play. And it would probably suit Ballyhaise better as a team to know he isn't going to be playing then to have to be hoping he lands at each game and what not.

Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on August 01, 2012, 11:29:40 PM
Lads
Theres more to the story than what some of ye may know or think but its not something that has a place on a public forum.

Well said. And I'm sure you know him better than most on here.

Doubtful about Ramor's ability to beat Drumgoon however! They looked truly shocking against Castlerahan. And I'd have my money on Gowna beating Cuchulainns as well. Haven't seen Ballinagh this year either but if they are in any way as good as last year they should overcome this Drumalee team in my opinion. Should be very tight in the 3 games though, the last 2 in particular!

Quote from: mylestheslasher on August 01, 2012, 11:17:35 PM
http://hoganstand.com/Cavan/ArticleForm.aspx?ID=174593

Cavan Gaels excuse for minor amalgamation. Reads like a load of bollix to me. How many excuses does her give?

Lads on holidays
Other sports
Amalgamated team won last yr.
Trying to bring lads on.

Which one is it?

County board need to put some rules in place for amalgamations or there will soon be only 2 teams in the championship.

I agree that things have gotten out of hand this year and 80% of the teams amalgamated for this championship are amalgamating because they are chasing glory and not because they are short of numbers. However, I'm of the opinion that if Kingscourt are allowed amalgamate last year then the Gaels should not be treated any differently and should be allowed to amalgamate this year. The excuses given are silly though. Why didn't he just call a spade a spade and say that they're amalgamating because they wouldn't be strong enough to win it on their own. Sad, but true (and is the case with most of the amalgamated teams).

Disappointing to think about the countless number of players that will quit football because of these new and unnecessary amalgamations.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on August 02, 2012, 08:22:04 AM
Quote from: Bananas on August 02, 2012, 12:07:04 AM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on August 01, 2012, 11:12:17 PM
Why does he think he is worthy of a place on the Cavan team, he hasn't played a really good game in a couple of years. I don't like saying that as I genuinely thought he was destined for great things. Maybe he needs a break to get his head right but he could have played for a couple of more weeks with ballyhaise and then took his break. I'd say his team mates feel let down, I hope they all up their games to compensate.

That's very harsh in my opinion. I get to a lot of games and seen him play 4 times last year and in each game he stood out as the best player on the pitch. I think Cullivan's style of play attracts criticism from others but having spoken to a few that play alongside him they don't have a bad word to say about the man. He also left himself open to abuse when he got sent off against Donegal last year but again, this isn't enough to label a player on.

If any player feels he needs to get a break from the game and clear his head then they are dead right. Nobody is contracted to play. And it would probably suit Ballyhaise better as a team to know he isn't going to be playing then to have to be hoping he lands at each game and what not.

Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on August 01, 2012, 11:29:40 PM
Lads
Theres more to the story than what some of ye may know or think but its not something that has a place on a public forum.

Well said. And I'm sure you know him better than most on here.

Doubtful about Ramor's ability to beat Drumgoon however! They looked truly shocking against Castlerahan. And I'd have my money on Gowna beating Cuchulainns as well. Haven't seen Ballinagh this year either but if they are in any way as good as last year they should overcome this Drumalee team in my opinion. Should be very tight in the 3 games though, the last 2 in particular!

Quote from: mylestheslasher on August 01, 2012, 11:17:35 PM
http://hoganstand.com/Cavan/ArticleForm.aspx?ID=174593

Cavan Gaels excuse for minor amalgamation. Reads like a load of bollix to me. How many excuses does her give?

Lads on holidays
Other sports
Amalgamated team won last yr.
Trying to bring lads on.

Which one is it?

County board need to put some rules in place for amalgamations or there will soon be only 2 teams in the championship.

I agree that things have gotten out of hand this year and 80% of the teams amalgamated for this championship are amalgamating because they are chasing glory and not because they are short of numbers. However, I'm of the opinion that if Kingscourt are allowed amalgamate last year then the Gaels should not be treated any differently and should be allowed to amalgamate this year. The excuses given are silly though. Why didn't he just call a spade a spade and say that they're amalgamating because they wouldn't be strong enough to win it on their own. Sad, but true (and is the case with most of the amalgamated teams).

Disappointing to think about the countless number of players that will quit football because of these new and unnecessary amalgamations.

Bananas - when I said he hadn't played a good game in a few years I meant for Cavan (reading back I didn't make that clear) and I should have also said that I rate his ability highly so I am expecting more  than an average performance. If something else is at the back of this then fair enough, lets leave it at that.

On amalgamations, my point is that Gaels are one team certainly strong enough on their own and if even they put glory of winning above giving all their players a run then I think we've got a problem. I don't believe in leaving lads behind. There needs to be some sort of rule introduced to ensure only teams that need to amalgamate are allowed to otherwise we will turn football into a game for the elite.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: TheThirdManning on August 02, 2012, 09:16:21 AM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on August 02, 2012, 08:22:04 AM
Quote from: Bananas on August 02, 2012, 12:07:04 AM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on August 01, 2012, 11:12:17 PM
Why does he think he is worthy of a place on the Cavan team, he hasn't played a really good game in a couple of years. I don't like saying that as I genuinely thought he was destined for great things. Maybe he needs a break to get his head right but he could have played for a couple of more weeks with ballyhaise and then took his break. I'd say his team mates feel let down, I hope they all up their games to compensate.

That's very harsh in my opinion. I get to a lot of games and seen him play 4 times last year and in each game he stood out as the best player on the pitch. I think Cullivan's style of play attracts criticism from others but having spoken to a few that play alongside him they don't have a bad word to say about the man. He also left himself open to abuse when he got sent off against Donegal last year but again, this isn't enough to label a player on.

If any player feels he needs to get a break from the game and clear his head then they are dead right. Nobody is contracted to play. And it would probably suit Ballyhaise better as a team to know he isn't going to be playing then to have to be hoping he lands at each game and what not.

Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on August 01, 2012, 11:29:40 PM
Lads
Theres more to the story than what some of ye may know or think but its not something that has a place on a public forum.

Well said. And I'm sure you know him better than most on here.

Doubtful about Ramor's ability to beat Drumgoon however! They looked truly shocking against Castlerahan. And I'd have my money on Gowna beating Cuchulainns as well. Haven't seen Ballinagh this year either but if they are in any way as good as last year they should overcome this Drumalee team in my opinion. Should be very tight in the 3 games though, the last 2 in particular!

Quote from: mylestheslasher on August 01, 2012, 11:17:35 PM
http://hoganstand.com/Cavan/ArticleForm.aspx?ID=174593

Cavan Gaels excuse for minor amalgamation. Reads like a load of bollix to me. How many excuses does her give?

Lads on holidays
Other sports
Amalgamated team won last yr.
Trying to bring lads on.

Which one is it?

County board need to put some rules in place for amalgamations or there will soon be only 2 teams in the championship.

I agree that things have gotten out of hand this year and 80% of the teams amalgamated for this championship are amalgamating because they are chasing glory and not because they are short of numbers. However, I'm of the opinion that if Kingscourt are allowed amalgamate last year then the Gaels should not be treated any differently and should be allowed to amalgamate this year. The excuses given are silly though. Why didn't he just call a spade a spade and say that they're amalgamating because they wouldn't be strong enough to win it on their own. Sad, but true (and is the case with most of the amalgamated teams).

Disappointing to think about the countless number of players that will quit football because of these new and unnecessary amalgamations.

Bananas - when I said he hadn't played a good game in a few years I meant for Cavan (reading back I didn't make that clear) and I should have also said that I rate his ability highly so I am expecting more  than an average performance. If something else is at the back of this then fair enough, lets leave it at that.

On amalgamations, my point is that Gaels are one team certainly strong enough on their own and if even they put glory of winning above giving all their players a run then I think we've got a problem. I don't believe in leaving lads behind. There needs to be some sort of rule introduced to ensure only teams that need to amalgamate are allowed to otherwise we will turn football into a game for the elite.

Looking from the outside in, that seems to be the plan of the County Board.

In fairness something has to be done. I haven't heard anyone speak of one good game in any of the Championships yet.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on August 02, 2012, 10:08:32 AM
Haven't seen Ballinagh this year either but if they are in any way as good as last year they should overcome this Drumalee team in my opinion.

Ballinagh haven't been going well this year, although neither have Drumalee. That's a 50/50 game. Ballinagh have gone back since last year when they beat Cavan Gaels in the group and got to the semi's.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on August 02, 2012, 11:38:42 AM
I agree with Myles on the amalgamations thing. On one hand the county board should be showing a stronger hand here and it seems very difficult to justify amalgamations at Minor level for clubs like Cavan Gaels.

On the other hand that doesn't absolve The Gaels from taking some responsibility here, saying that the league was full of amalgamated teams and an amalgamated team won it, that is not an acceptable excuse. If Cavan Gaels were getting 20 point hammerings against amalgamated teams and were unable to compete then perhaps they would have a case. To be there or there abouts and join with Killigarry because they are frustrated that their complete domination has been challenged looks against the real aim of Juvenille sports.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on August 02, 2012, 12:53:49 PM
Quote from: Westside on August 02, 2012, 11:38:42 AM
I agree with Myles on the amalgamations thing. On one hand the county board should be showing a stronger hand here and it seems very difficult to justify amalgamations at Minor level for clubs like Cavan Gaels.

On the other hand that doesn't absolve The Gaels from taking some responsibility here, saying that the league was full of amalgamated teams and an amalgamated team won it, that is not an acceptable excuse. If Cavan Gaels were getting 20 point hammerings against amalgamated teams and were unable to compete then perhaps they would have a case. To be there or there abouts and join with Killigarry because they are frustrated that their complete domination has been challenged looks against the real aim of Juvenille sports.

Two wrongs don't make a right and there is something wrong when Cavan Gaels can't field on their own however the Minor Board and previous Boards have been very lax on clubs amalgamating for too long now. In the past they and Bord Peil na nOg have also let clubs drop down divisions when it was obvious their only intentions was to win a cup. They have also let clubs chop and change who they want to amalgamate with over the years. No consistency. I have said it before and I'l say it again, if amalgamations are ever going to work at Senior level there will have to be a continuation on from underage eg. Redbridge, St Joes and not the case where Ballinagh and Cornafean amalgamate one year and Lacken and Cornafean amalgamate the next year. All of this has culminated in what we have now in our Minor Championship.
I don't remember the then Senior champions Kingscourt amalgamating being front page news of the sports section last year. You can point the finger at Cavan Gaels all you want but they are only looking to stay one step ahead in a competition that has not been run in the right spirit for over a decade now.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on August 02, 2012, 02:09:13 PM
Ballinagh and Cornafean were together at minor for the last 2/3 years and at u21. Last year was the first year Lacken joined up with those clubs at u21. Lacken had its own minor team last year, but are joined up with Gowna this year. In 2010 lacken were joined with Crosserlough at minor level and u21 that year too. Every year is different. They are sticking with the Ballinagh, Cornafean and Lacken this year at u21 as far as I know.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on August 02, 2012, 04:42:41 PM
Does anyone know if fixtures have been made for the Minor Championship? I know the draw has been made but have venues and dates been released? I'd like to get to Templeport and West CG's games (potentially a meeting of the two but unlikely)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on August 02, 2012, 05:47:01 PM
Quote from: Westside on August 02, 2012, 04:42:41 PM
Does anyone know if fixtures have been made for the Minor Championship? I know the draw has been made but have venues and dates been released? I'd like to get to Templeport and West CG's games (potentially a meeting of the two but unlikely)

Wednesday 8th August

Farnham Arms Hotel Minor Championship Division 1
Preliminary Round
Templeport v North Eastern Gaels
Bawnboy at 7.30pm
Referee: Jim Giblin
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on August 06, 2012, 03:34:54 PM
So after Round 2 of the Intermediate Championship

Drumlane
Killeshandra
Cootehill
Crosserlough
Lacken

are all confirmed for the Quarter Finals
then either Ballyhaise or Drung, Cavan Gaels or Swanlinbar, Shercock or Killinkere will fill the other three places.

Ballyhaise need to get a point against us to be sure of qualifying as Drung will surely be expect to beat Bultersbridge who are already out

Swanlinbar play Bailieboro and the Gaels play Crosserlough - Gaels need to better Swanlinbar's result to go through

Killinkere can afford to draw, Shercock need to win


Round 3 isn't being played until 25/26th
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on August 08, 2012, 02:40:41 PM
Interesting cometition from main GAA board.

http://209.200.237.116/~gaabo3/board/index.php?topic=22037.0

we are hosting the first ever all Ireland free taking/point scoring competition. This competition is played out over 6 elimination rounds to determine the best free taker in Ireland. The eventual winner will be crowned a New All Ireland Champion and receive an estimated €10,000 first prize,
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on August 08, 2012, 09:36:19 PM
Templeport upset the odds tonight, beat Larah/Kill/Drung by a point. They meet West Cavan Gaels (Kildallan/Shannon Gaels/Swad/Corlough) now. Great to see the lads from the West competing at Division 1 level.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on August 08, 2012, 10:08:06 PM
Quote from: Westside on August 08, 2012, 09:36:19 PM
Templeport upset the odds tonight, beat Larah/Kill/Drung by a point. They meet West Cavan Gaels (Kildallan/Shannon Gaels/Swad/Corlough) now. Great to see the lads from the West competing at Division 1 level.

Fair play to them, not only as a west Cavan team but as a team that didn't amalgamate.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on August 10, 2012, 12:25:56 PM
Good luck to the juniors tomorrow, its a big ask but we are there on merit and no reason we can't do the job.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: scoopmine on August 11, 2012, 04:29:24 PM
Kerry 1 8 Cavan 1 3 Half time...
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on August 11, 2012, 06:03:54 PM
I hear we were beaten, anyone got the score.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on August 11, 2012, 06:11:04 PM
Cavan beaten 1.16 to 2.6
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on August 11, 2012, 06:15:50 PM
Hard luck to the lads. Was always going to be tough losing the players that got runs with the senior team since the Leinster final, an issue I'm sure Kerry didn't have. Still great to win a provincial title no matter what the level.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on August 14, 2012, 12:30:31 PM
Minor Championship Division 1

Templeport 1-10 West Cavan Gaels (Kildallon / Corlough / Shannon Gaels / Swanlinbar) 1-13

Lavey / Castlerahan 1-11 Oliver Plunkets (Cavan Gaels / Killygarry) 2-6

St. Joseph's (Killeshandra / Arva) 1-8 O'Raghallaigh Gaels (Kingscourt / Shercock) 2-14

Minor Championship Division 2A

St Killians (Cuchullainns / Killinkere) 2-7 Erne Gaels (Redhills / Belturbet / Butlersbridge) 3-13

Drumlane 1-5 Drumbo (Ballyhaise / Drumalee) 0-12

Minor Championship Division 2B

Eastern Gaels (Bailieborough / Knockbride) 0-12 St Felim's (Ballinagh / Cornafean) 0-7

Eire Og Celtic (Cootehill / Drumgoon) 1-11 Ballymachugh 2-11

Ramor United 3-12 Crosserlough 1-11
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on August 14, 2012, 12:38:57 PM
The West Cavan combination is a bit over the top with 4 clubs. Suppose they had to go with 4 clubs to compete in Div1.. Templeport did well to beat one amalgamation in the first round, Facing 4 clubs was a big ask, even if them clubs would be no world beaters on their own.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on August 14, 2012, 07:20:20 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on August 14, 2012, 12:38:57 PM
The West Cavan combination is a bit over the top with 4 clubs. Suppose they had to go with 4 clubs to compete in Div1.. Templeport did well to beat one amalgamation in the first round, Facing 4 clubs was a big ask, even if them clubs would be no world beaters on their own.

Its no more over the top than Erne Gaels who are playing in Division 2 with 3 teams two of which are Senior clubs.

Do clubs pick what divison they want to play it?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on August 14, 2012, 08:58:24 PM
It's up to the clubs. Erne Gaels are a strong outfit for Div2 alright.

Big win for Lavey/crhan beating Plunkets last night, they were favs for Divison 1.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on August 14, 2012, 10:54:07 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on August 14, 2012, 12:38:57 PM
The West Cavan combination is a bit over the top with 4 clubs. Suppose they had to go with 4 clubs to compete in Div1.. Templeport did well to beat one amalgamation in the first round, Facing 4 clubs was a big ask, even if them clubs would be no world beaters on their own.

Templeport could have taken West Cavan Gaels yesterday evening too.. Didn't have the rub of the green and a luck goal was the difference in the end. Templeport did themselves proud. Considering they had about 5 U 15 and U16 lads to be within a kick of the ball of a 4 team amalgamation is a fine achievement. They only lose 1 player between now and next year so they will feel they can compete again next year. Some lovely footballers on show, was particularly impressed with Dillon Raythorne, Liam Galligan, Hayden Kellegher and Michael Devine. 3 of those are U16. Walsh and Crowe from WCGs were quality too, Walsh in particular.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on August 15, 2012, 11:18:17 AM
I saw Niall Walsh in the Junior Champinship Semi last year, shannon gaels were beaten, but he stood out for me, looked a very useful player. He had a good game against Donegal in the Minor championship this year too. He is a similar player to his clubmate PP O'Hare..
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: gortnaleck on August 15, 2012, 02:26:15 PM
Hey Westside, Is Kiernan not still Minor, surprised you didn't mention him
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on August 15, 2012, 03:51:40 PM
Kiernan is Minor and still Minor next year I believe. Found himself well marshaled by the WCG defence, constantly bottled up by 3/4 players anytime he got the ball, he was obviously marked out as the danger man. That's the only reason I didn't mention him. Still showed some good flashes, intelligent player, great awareness of space and eye for the killer pass.
Forgot to mention Greg McGovern from Swad earlier. Big unit for a minor player, if he's Minor again next year I'd expect him to be not far off the county. A big team won it for us in 2011 we need to keep that up.

I see on HS that Joes and TP will meet now in the back door.

So despite all the talk Oliver Plunkett's were knocked out?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on August 15, 2012, 04:03:31 PM
Aye McGovern is Minor again next year...  He is playing for Swad Seniors at mid-field - and actually was centre-forward against us at the Sunday...

Not sure about all this talk about Oliver Plunketts, Gaels or Killygarry weren't overly strong this year.  Surely Lavey Castlerahan with the likes of Smith and Flanagan would have been favourites??

Backdoor draw for Minors is:


Minor Division 1:

North Eastern Gaels vs Oliver Plunkets
Templeport vs St. Josephs

Minor Division 2:

Drumlane vs Crosserlough
Blackwater Gaels vs Mullahoran / Southern Gaels
St Felims vs St. Killians
Denn vs Eire Og Celtic
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on August 16, 2012, 01:14:32 PM
With a few weeks to go in leagues this is how i think it would work out for next year if the leagues finished now.

Promotion and relegation between 2B and 3 is what i find most confusing as alot will depend on championship winners i think :)

Division 1 and Senior Championship 2013
Cavan Gaels    
Castlerahan/Caisleán Raithin    
Lavey    
Lacken GAA    
Réalta Dun an Rí    
Mullahoran
Cúchulainns    
Ballinagh    
Reamor Aontaoithe    
Belturbet     (to play-off with top team in division 2 for league and championship place)

Division 2A and Intermediate Championship 2013
Droim Dhúin Éire Óg    
Killygarry GAA Club/CLG Coill an Gharraí    
Gowna    
Ballyhaise    
Redhills    
Denn    (Enter playoff for Division 1 and Senior championship place)
Crosserlough/Crois ar Loch    
Drumlane    
An Drong    
Drumalee

Division 2B and Intermediate Championship 2013
Cootehill Celtic GAA    
Killeshandra    
Killinkere GAA    
St Mary's GAA, Swanlinbar    
Cavan Gaels    
Munterconnaught    
Kill    
Cornafean    
Butlersbridge    
Baileborough

Division 3 and Junior Championship   
Knockbride GAA Club
Droichead Úi Dhálaigh    
Shannon Gaels    
Baileborough
Searcóg/Shercock    
Ballymachugh    
Arva    
Laragh Utd    
Kildallan G.A.A. Club    
Corlough    
Templeport St. Aidan's GAA    
Maghera MacFinns GFC/An Machaire    


Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on August 16, 2012, 05:41:40 PM
Quote from: tommysmith on August 16, 2012, 01:14:32 PM
With a few weeks to go in leagues this is how i think it would work out for next year if the leagues finished now.

Promotion and relegation between 2B and 3 is what i find most confusing as alot will depend on championship winners i think :)

Division 1 and Senior Championship 2013
Cavan Gaels    
Castlerahan/Caisleán Raithin    
Lavey    
Lacken GAA    
Réalta Dun an Rí    
Mullahoran
Cúchulainns    
Ballinagh    
Reamor Aontaoithe    
Belturbet     (to play-off with top team in division 2 for league and championship place)

That wouldn't be possible, 7 teams stay up in Div1, and the 8th placed team plays the First placed team from Division 2 in a play off to play Division 1 football in 2013 and Senior Championship football.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on August 16, 2012, 05:47:04 PM
Then does the winner of the Intermediate Championship this year also get a chance at Senior football next year?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on August 16, 2012, 05:52:01 PM
Correction 8 stay up, 9th place plays First place team from Div2. Intermediate winners make up 10th team, If Lacken were to win it i'm not sure who would get the 10th spot. Runners up possibly.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on August 16, 2012, 09:39:59 PM
Its messy enough.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: s__words on August 16, 2012, 11:11:27 PM
The way I see it is that the top seven teams plus the senior & intermediate champions,with the next best playing off with Div 2 winners.
If two teams within the top 7 were to win the senior & intermediate championships, the teams in 8th & 9th would play Div 1 next year with 10th place playing off with the winners of Div 2.
If two teams from outside the top 7 were to win the senior & intermediate championships then they along with the winner of the playoff between next highest placed finisher in Div 1 v Div 2 winners would make up Div 1 for 2013.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: PhilsJemmysField on August 17, 2012, 02:14:11 PM
This is the official word

http://cavangaa.ie/news/322/Cavan_GAA_2013_League_&_Championship_Structures.html


But the word on the street is the Junior Clubs do not like it and a revolt is being organised. So God knows !!


Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on August 18, 2012, 11:25:12 AM
I dont know what they have to cry about they are not changing much.

Maybe i am missing something?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on August 18, 2012, 01:48:29 PM
No need for them to object, I remember a few years ago a Junior club think it was Maghera were relegated to Division 4 but they got reinstated back to Division 3 when Tom Reilly became chairman.. They got off with that, why get off again...
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on August 18, 2012, 02:10:48 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on August 18, 2012, 01:48:29 PM
No need for them to object, I remember a few years ago a Junior club think it was Maghera were relegated to Division 4 but they got reinstated back to Division 3 when Tom Reilly became chairman.. They got off with that, why get off again...

Was that not templeport?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on August 18, 2012, 02:52:31 PM
No it was Maghera, they played in Division 4 for one season I think it was, and were actually close to dropping to Div5..

Templeport would have been playing for Div4 the year Tom Reillt took over, they were bottom of div3 that year from what I remember. They were saved having to play div4, Being a West Cavanman I don't think they were ever going to play Div4 once Tom Reilly got chair.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on August 18, 2012, 03:35:10 PM
Templeport were supposed to go down in 2007. They appealed and it went to a club vote, Templeport canvassed the clubs who voted to keep them up. Had something to do with a second team (Crosserlough?) not being able to field a team in Div 3 and so TP appealed to stay up to keep it to 14 teams. The following year Maghera got relegated and spent a year in Div 4. That year Templeport actually did very well, finished 3rd in the League and got to a JFC Semi Final.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: gortnaleck on August 18, 2012, 05:31:38 PM
Would there be any positives in relegating any of the Junior only clubs down to Div 5. I feel it would be more of a kill than a cure
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Benny on August 19, 2012, 09:59:25 PM
Westside is correct, 2007, tport were relegated, only to get reinstated after a vote due to Crosserlough not taking their place in Div 3. Maghera MacFinns did get relegated the following year, 2008, and did appeal same, to no avail. They spent 2009 in Division 4, where they finished mid table. At the end of this year, the league was reformatted and Maghera were reinstated to Div 3. Can I point out that this was not due to any pressure or direct action from the Maghera club as seems to have been insinuated by the poster above.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on August 19, 2012, 10:51:07 PM
I thought Maghera finished second bottom that year, only that Drumlane Juniors were terrible that year they would have finished bottom? If they finished mid-table i was obviously wrong, but i remember they lost alot of games that year in Div4.

I think if they hadn't been reinstated it would be doubtful if Maghera would still be in existence now,. Obviously its good that all 40 clubs are playing in the senior league's and not a league made up of second club teams in div4.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on August 20, 2012, 12:21:31 AM
The only way to make a drop from Division 3 fair is to have extremely strict regulations on second teams. Otherwise you're going to have Senior standard players coming back from injury or players who can't make the commitment to senior playing against Junior players and it's completely unfair. Dropping to Div 4 also has a terrible effect on the whole mentality of a club. You can have a good future coming up in the club and thinking you can drag yourself out of Div 3 because you know who you'll be playing but if you're in Div 4 you're basically at the mercy of the whim of the Senior Club you are facing.

Anyway this isn't a proposal to be reinstated is it?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on August 20, 2012, 12:45:31 AM
I don't think so. In fainess alot of Div4 teams are full of senior players, some clubs first 12 aren't always true.. Maghera were facing alot of senior players in some of them games
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: PhilsJemmysField on August 20, 2012, 02:52:08 PM
To get back to the championship


Anybody stand out so far that we think could make a difference to the county setup
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on August 21, 2012, 12:22:55 PM
Minor results from the Backdoor Qualifiers last night...

'A' Championship

NORTH EASTERN GAELS 1-10 V 0-9 OLIVER PLUNKETS
TEMPLEPORT ST. AIDAN'S GAA 1-10 V 5-10 ST JOSEPH'S

'B' Championship

SOUTHERN GAELS 2-12 V 0-10 MULLAHORAN
DRUMLANE 2-7 V 3-11 CROSSERLOUGH/CROIS AR LOCH
DENN 0-0 V 5-17 EIRE OG CELTIC

That last result shouldn't be happening in a Minor Championship - it's wrong that there isn't a third division especially when there was one in the League
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on August 21, 2012, 02:03:51 PM
So The Gaels grip on Minor Championships has certainly broken. Sorry to see TP take a trimming from Joes, hope they can come back stronger next year.

The Denn score is horrible to see, unfair on young lads to put them in that position. If they were that weak they should have been joined with another club.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on August 21, 2012, 02:07:44 PM
Quote from: Westside on August 21, 2012, 02:03:51 PM
So The Gaels grip on Minor Championships has certainly broken. Sorry to see TP take a trimming from Joes, hope they can come back stronger next year.

The Denn score is horrible to see, unfair on young lads to put them in that position. If they were that weak they should have been joined with another club.

I dont think thats the way it should work though. 

If a club has 18 or 19 lads able to play minor why should they join up and deny maybe more than half of them football, i know looking at it now they would have better off joining with someone. The problem is with the County board deciding not to have a division 3 championship.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on August 21, 2012, 02:10:46 PM
Quote from: tommysmith on August 21, 2012, 02:07:44 PM
Quote from: Westside on August 21, 2012, 02:03:51 PM
So The Gaels grip on Minor Championships has certainly broken. Sorry to see TP take a trimming from Joes, hope they can come back stronger next year.

The Denn score is horrible to see, unfair on young lads to put them in that position. If they were that weak they should have been joined with another club.

I dont think thats the way it should work though. 

If a club has 18 or 19 lads able to play minor why should they join up and deny maybe more than half of them football, i know looking at it now they would have better off joining with someone. The problem is with the County board deciding not to have a division 3 championship.

100% agree
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on August 21, 2012, 02:29:02 PM
Correct me if I'm wrong but I heard that Denn were initially supposed to join with Killygarry but they then joined with Cavan Gaels leaving Denn on their own.
There should have been a Division 3.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on August 21, 2012, 03:17:59 PM
Killygarry had agreed to join with Denn for the Championship but Cavan Gaels then got in contact with Killygarry and they joined with them instead..
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Bananas on August 23, 2012, 03:08:36 AM
Quote from: rodney trotter on August 21, 2012, 03:17:59 PM
Killygarry had agreed to join with Denn for the Championship but Cavan Gaels then got in contact with Killygarry and they joined with them instead..

Seems like bad sportsmanship on Killygarry's half if they had previously agreed to join with Denn, a team which they joined with in recent years if I'm not mistaken. If this is the case then I'm glad to see nothing come of the Gaels/Killygarry amalgamation.

In my opinion the Gaels would have been better off and more competitive on their own and the same can be said for several other teams who amalgamated simply because it appears to be the ''trend'' at this time.

Was sorry to see Templeport take a hiding. I had hoped to see them do well and all credit to them for not amalgamating when they didn't need to. It should stand to them next year when O Raghallaigh Gaels and Cavan Gaels are weak and them (Templeport) and Ramor should compete in a competitive race for Division 1 silverware.

The same can probably be said for most of the teams that amalgamated solely for the championship. These nonsensical amalgamations shouldn't be going on and isn't going to help anybody in the long run. Never have I heard of so many young players quitting football in such a short space of time as has happened this summer.

As for that shambles of a result in Division 2 well I think that speaks for itself. The responsibility for that shambles of a result falls solely on the shoulders of the County Minor Board. Denn were also annihilated in the opening round fixture and Mullahoran would've most likely been beaten by a lot more than 8 points had they have faced a stronger team.

People say that because we won a few Ulster titles at underage level in the past few years that things are on the up. I can't remember a time when things were worse within the club setup - both at minor, junior and senior level. Resignations need to be announced and a serious review of the current structure is in dire need.  ::)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on August 23, 2012, 02:16:03 PM
Quote from: Bananas on August 23, 2012, 03:08:36 AM
Quote from: rodney trotter on August 21, 2012, 03:17:59 PM
Killygarry had agreed to join with Denn for the Championship but Cavan Gaels then got in contact with Killygarry and they joined with them instead..

Seems like bad sportsmanship on Killygarry's half if they had previously agreed to join with Denn, a team which they joined with in recent years if I'm not mistaken. If this is the case then I'm glad to see nothing come of the Gaels/Killygarry amalgamation.

In my opinion the Gaels would have been better off and more competitive on their own and the same can be said for several other teams who amalgamated simply because it appears to be the ''trend'' at this time.

Was sorry to see Templeport take a hiding. I had hoped to see them do well and all credit to them for not amalgamating when they didn't need to. It should stand to them next year when O Raghallaigh Gaels and Cavan Gaels are weak and them (Templeport) and Ramor should compete in a competitive race for Division 1 silverware.

The same can probably be said for most of the teams that amalgamated solely for the championship. These nonsensical amalgamations shouldn't be going on and isn't going to help anybody in the long run. Never have I heard of so many young players quitting football in such a short space of time as has happened this summer.

As for that shambles of a result in Division 2 well I think that speaks for itself. The responsibility for that shambles of a result falls solely on the shoulders of the County Minor Board. Denn were also annihilated in the opening round fixture and Mullahoran would've most likely been beaten by a lot more than 8 points had they have faced a stronger team.

People say that because we won a few Ulster titles at underage level in the past few years that things are on the up. I can't remember a time when things were worse within the club setup - both at minor, junior and senior level. Resignations need to be announced and a serious review of the current structure is in dire need.  ::)

Amalgamations in some cases DO work and have worked for some clubs. St Joes and Redbridge being prime examples. It is far too early to say about some other 'experiments'. You say that you have never heard of so many young lads quitting football. What club are you involved in or what clubs are you referring to? I agree that it is getting harder and harder to keep lads committed these days but that is for a number of reasons and not solely amalgamations. The standard of coaching being a prime example.
I agree that the club scene is in a very poor state in Cavan at the moment but we have been doing the same things in Cavan for as long as I can remember and they haven't improved anything so maybe its time we tried something different? I think thats where the Board are coming from also. Not having a Division 3 was obviously a big mistake and there will be repercussions over it I'd imagine.
Amalgamations is encouraging elitism which will not please everybody but it really is up to clubs to decide which road they want to go down. Compete on their own and maybe take a hiding or amalgamate and try and be competitive. That might be a simplistic view but it rings true in a lot of clubs.




Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: drici on August 23, 2012, 02:44:01 PM
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Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Bananas on August 24, 2012, 04:36:20 PM
Quote from: boojangles on August 23, 2012, 02:16:03 PM
Amalgamations in some cases DO work and have worked for some clubs. St Joes and Redbridge being prime examples. It is far too early to say about some other 'experiments'. You say that you have never heard of so many young lads quitting football. What club are you involved in or what clubs are you referring to? I agree that it is getting harder and harder to keep lads committed these days but that is for a number of reasons and not solely amalgamations. The standard of coaching being a prime example.
I agree that the club scene is in a very poor state in Cavan at the moment but we have been doing the same things in Cavan for as long as I can remember and they haven't improved anything so maybe its time we tried something different? I think thats where the Board are coming from also. Not having a Division 3 was obviously a big mistake and there will be repercussions over it I'd imagine.
Amalgamations is encouraging elitism which will not please everybody but it really is up to clubs to decide which road they want to go down. Compete on their own and maybe take a hiding or amalgamate and try and be competitive. That might be a simplistic view but it rings true in a lot of clubs.

Fair enough St.Joes have been competitive in recent years, despite winning nothing, the amalgamation of Redbridge on the other hand has obviously not been a success seeing as they felt the need to add another team to the setup (Belturbet) . I'd rather not say what club I am involved in but I can say that my club has been involved in amalgamations in recent years and it has caused several players to be denied the chance to develop and has led to many quitting football altogether. This is the case among several clubs around the county and any other honest trainers/managers will tell you that.

I agree that the standard of coaching is poor at the minute and measures do need to be taken to improve this but sadly it is an amateur sport and the majority of coaches are only involved because they have a son or relative on the team, but who can blame them. There are very few coaches around that are doing it solely for their love of the game and to those that are, kudos to them. Also it appears that there are more and more senior players getting involved with coaching underage teams within clubs which is great to see.

Some of the amalgamations that have been slapped together for minor this year as just plain silly though and I have been to minor championship games for the last several years and there has been no sign whatsoever of this ''elitism'' this year in my opinion. In fact I would argue that the standard this year has been poorer, especially at division 1 level, than recent years.

No harm in trying something new I suppose, but how long will this continue to go on for before clubs begin to see the repercussions at senior and senior reserve level.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: drici on August 25, 2012, 08:25:06 PM
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Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: drici on August 25, 2012, 08:48:59 PM
Gowna 0-02  Killygarry 1-05

Half Time

(winners play Cavan Gaels)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on August 25, 2012, 09:11:16 PM
Ballinagh play Mullahoran for the second year in the 1/4 stage. Kingscourt meet Drumgoon, Casterahan against Belturbet and Cavan Gaels against Killygarry by the sound of it.

Impressive win for Cootehill today against Ballyhaise. Mark Mullan is a very handy forward, Dean Connolly attacked well from half back. Useful team, one of the better teams left in it bar Lacken and Crosserlough, and probaly Drumlane too.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: drici on August 25, 2012, 09:32:37 PM
Gowna 1-10  Killygarry 2-10

(6 minutes were added on)

Killygarry through indeed.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on August 27, 2012, 12:38:17 PM
Quote from: Bananas on August 24, 2012, 04:36:20 PM
Quote from: boojangles on August 23, 2012, 02:16:03 PM
Amalgamations in some cases DO work and have worked for some clubs. St Joes and Redbridge being prime examples. It is far too early to say about some other 'experiments'. You say that you have never heard of so many young lads quitting football. What club are you involved in or what clubs are you referring to? I agree that it is getting harder and harder to keep lads committed these days but that is for a number of reasons and not solely amalgamations. The standard of coaching being a prime example.
I agree that the club scene is in a very poor state in Cavan at the moment but we have been doing the same things in Cavan for as long as I can remember and they haven't improved anything so maybe its time we tried something different? I think thats where the Board are coming from also. Not having a Division 3 was obviously a big mistake and there will be repercussions over it I'd imagine.
Amalgamations is encouraging elitism which will not please everybody but it really is up to clubs to decide which road they want to go down. Compete on their own and maybe take a hiding or amalgamate and try and be competitive. That might be a simplistic view but it rings true in a lot of clubs.

Fair enough St.Joes have been competitive in recent years, despite winning nothing, the amalgamation of Redbridge on the other hand has obviously not been a success seeing as they felt the need to add another team to the setup (Belturbet) . I'd rather not say what club I am involved in but I can say that my club has been involved in amalgamations in recent years and it has caused several players to be denied the chance to develop and has led to many quitting football altogether. This is the case among several clubs around the county and any other honest trainers/managers will tell you that.

I agree that the standard of coaching is poor at the minute and measures do need to be taken to improve this but sadly it is an amateur sport and the majority of coaches are only involved because they have a son or relative on the team, but who can blame them. There are very few coaches around that are doing it solely for their love of the game and to those that are, kudos to them. Also it appears that there are more and more senior players getting involved with coaching underage teams within clubs which is great to see.

Some of the amalgamations that have been slapped together for minor this year as just plain silly though and I have been to minor championship games for the last several years and there has been no sign whatsoever of this ''elitism'' this year in my opinion. In fact I would argue that the standard this year has been poorer, especially at division 1 level, than recent years.

No harm in trying something new I suppose, but how long will this continue to go on for before clubs begin to see the repercussions at senior and senior reserve level.

Redhills and Butlersbridge have been amalgamating for several years now so just because Belturbet have been added to the mix this year doesn't mean it hasn't worked for them. Redhills won an Intermediate championship in 2008 with a lot of lads who had played at Division 1 level with Redbridge and these lads have kept Redhills at Senior level while Butlersbridge won a Junior championship in 2009 with a lot of lads who had also played underage at Division 1 level. That is success to me.

I think you have missed my point regarding Elitism. My point was that amalgamations encourage a survival of the fittest ethos where the weaker footballers might not get a game which obviously isn't ideal. I wasn't saying that the standard of football has improved. I haven't seen enough underage football this year to comment on that.

I agree that some amalgamations which have happened in the past should never have happened but at the end of the day it is up to each individual club to decide what is best for them in the long run.
As I have said before and I know it is relevant to my own club at U-16/ Minor level, are we better off staying on our own and scraping together a panel of 18 lads (half of whom are committed) to try and compete or are we better off amalgamating and giving the 8-10 lads who are committed a chance to play a so-called better standard of football. That's what it boils down to.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on August 27, 2012, 01:11:42 PM
What happens when some of your more committed lads aren't good enough to make an amalgamated team though??

I think amalgamations shouldn't be used when together they have over a dozen subs - which I'm hearing is happening a bit this Minor Championship, i.e. if teams have enough, they should play on their own.

Clubs can take a lazy option - the idea of "it'll be hard work to get our 15+ boys out every week and keep them interested but if we amalgamated, it's easier to look after half of them....

Also I believe there is a notion of winning would be easier and at a higher division (which can be a factor if the coaches' ego is involved) - i.e. we'll put 7 of our best with 8 of your best and we've a great team, sure who'd stop us....  Easier said than done, especially if everyone else is thinking and doing it too

Another of the problems is that there isn't enough divisions for every team to play at a competitive level... i.e. Take the Under 16s, 31 teams do not fit neatly into 3 divisions so within each division there is a massive gap between some teams. 

Added to the fact that each Division was split into two groups of five teams (one group in Div 3 had 6 teams) meaning that most teams only played 5 league games (4 group plus quarter final) - Cavan football will not continue to be at the top of Ulster Underage football if the majority of our Under 16s team only play a handful of games in a season...

Under 14s was the same and worse in some ways, 2 groups in each division but with no quarter final just semi finals - top 2 in each group - meaning after a couple of defeats, most teams had nothing to play for...

I don't know why there is a big problem with Division 4 and possibly Division 5 - they have it in Monaghan with a lot less clubs.  There seems to be a problem with playing 13 and even 11 a side too.

Speaking of Bultersbridge, I know they won a Division 4 Minor League at 11 a side and went on to win a Minor Div 3 Championship later on that year.  A year or two later they won a Junior Championship too....
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: PhilsJemmysField on August 28, 2012, 11:29:07 AM
Anybody see anybody in the championship that has really impressed. Watched McKiernan against BBoro at the weekend had a great first half but as it was a dead rubber not sure you could tell much from it. Curran was also impressive. After that the Cootehill lads really pulled the game out of the fire against Ballyhaise where I though apart from Tierney were not up to much in the forward line. So I suppose so far have have not really seen a stand out game where anybody new is standing out
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on August 28, 2012, 12:07:54 PM
Quote from: Celt_Man on August 27, 2012, 01:11:42 PM
What happens when some of your more committed lads aren't good enough to make an amalgamated team though??
I think amalgamations shouldn't be used when together they have over a dozen subs - which I'm hearing is happening a bit this Minor Championship, i.e. if teams have enough, they should play on their own.

Clubs can take a lazy option - the idea of "it'll be hard work to get our 15+ boys out every week and keep them interested but if we amalgamated, it's easier to look after half of them....

Also I believe there is a notion of winning would be easier and at a higher division (which can be a factor if the coaches' ego is involved) - i.e. we'll put 7 of our best with 8 of your best and we've a great team, sure who'd stop us....  Easier said than done, especially if everyone else is thinking and doing it too

Another of the problems is that there isn't enough divisions for every team to play at a competitive level... i.e. Take the Under 16s, 31 teams do not fit neatly into 3 divisions so within each division there is a massive gap between some teams. 

Added to the fact that each Division was split into two groups of five teams (one group in Div 3 had 6 teams) meaning that most teams only played 5 league games (4 group plus quarter final) - Cavan football will not continue to be at the top of Ulster Underage football if the majority of our Under 16s team only play a handful of games in a season...

Under 14s was the same and worse in some ways, 2 groups in each division but with no quarter final just semi finals - top 2 in each group - meaning after a couple of defeats, most teams had nothing to play for...

I don't know why there is a big problem with Division 4 and possibly Division 5 - they have it in Monaghan with a lot less clubs.  There seems to be a problem with playing 13 and even 11 a side too.

Speaking of Bultersbridge, I know they won a Division 4 Minor League at 11 a side and went on to win a Minor Div 3 Championship later on that year.  A year or two later they won a Junior Championship too....

There has to be subs on every team Celt Man. Some lads just won't make it. But if they are committed they will stick at the game and try and improve and in a few years time they should make it if they have the right attitude. Not making a team is no reason to walk away from the game.
You call it the lazy option. I am only talking from the perspective of my own club and I have seen both sides. If the lazy option is constantly calling to lads and trying to persuade them to come out for training like some coaches are doing or scraping together 15 for a challenge then I'd love to know what the hard option is.
Some lads will walk away from the game after Minor. That is a fact. To be brutally honest I would be more worried about giving the lads who will stick at it after 18-19 a decent level of football than giving lads a game who will probably quit within a year anyway.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on August 28, 2012, 03:14:06 PM
Lots of talented players are lost after minor for different reasons. Playing within your own age group up until your 18 keeps the lads together but then some player might play Junior and get hacked off with it after a few years by not making the senior team or if they are good enough will hold down a place on the senior team. I think they have a u21 league in Monaghan, run during the summer which is good.

Kevin Bouchier was one of Cavan's best players in the Minor Championship last year, he isn't playing any football now.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: scoopmine on August 28, 2012, 08:54:36 PM
Kevin Bouchier was one of Cavan's best players in the Minor Championship last year, he isn't playing any football now.

He came on as a sib for the u21s against Roscommon. Did he quit the club? Could he be in America for the summer? Talented footballer.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on August 28, 2012, 09:03:35 PM
Bouchier wasn't involved with the u21's. Maybe you were thinking of Dara Mcveety as the sub who came on against Ross, he was Minor last year.

Bouchier played a few games with Arva earlier in the year, but hasn't played in the last 3 months so I heard. He isn't in the US either.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on August 29, 2012, 12:27:29 AM
Bouchier was doing waterboy at the U21 Final this year as far as I remember. I assumed at the time he was injured but still involved with the squad. But his personal circumstances wouldn't allow for football at the moment I'd imagine, greater commitments to deal with.

Does anybody know what the story is with the U21 management for next year? Is Terry going for both roles? Whoever steps into the breach if he decided to focus on the seniors will have big shoes to fill. I'd leave McCabe with the Minors for another year and let him try to right the wrongs of this year. Peter Reilly or Carolan perhaps?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on August 29, 2012, 07:32:02 AM
Peter Reilly and Joe McArdle are new u21 managers is what I heard.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on August 29, 2012, 10:33:39 AM
Is it not Joe McCarthy? Don't know of a Joe McArdle.

McCarthy was involved with the u21s the last 3 years as a selector
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on August 29, 2012, 02:17:47 PM
Quote from: PhilsJemmysField on August 28, 2012, 11:29:07 AM
Anybody see anybody in the championship that has really impressed. Watched McKiernan against BBoro at the weekend had a great first half but as it was a dead rubber not sure you could tell much from it. Curran was also impressive. After that the Cootehill lads really pulled the game out of the fire against Ballyhaise where I though apart from Tierney were not up to much in the forward line. So I suppose so far have have not really seen a stand out game where anybody new is standing out

Haven't seen near as many games this year as I would like to have but from the games I was at or involved in I was impressed with:

Mark Teevan ( Belturbet) Big, strong lad. Offers a lot to Belturbet both going forward and tracking back. Good man to find space for himself.
Johnny Klushe (Belturbet) Alot like Teevan. Good in the air.
Kevin Mc Connell (Belturbet) Very strong and brave, superb fitness and work rate.
Niall Reilly ( Ballinagh) Very comfortable and elusive on the ball, good tackler.
Rory Dunne (Redhills) Big, strong, good in the air. Could be an option for Full-back.
Kevin Smith (Ballinagh) Fast, strong, good reader of breaks, good in front of goal.

With a bit of work and man to man coaching these lads would be capable of the step up to IC level IMO. I'm pretty sure there are plenty more around the county who haven't been given a chance. Whether they are committed or can commit is another matter but we definitely have the raw materials in Cavan to be doing a lot better than we currently are at Senior level.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on August 29, 2012, 03:47:49 PM
QuoteDon't know of a Joe McArdle.

Didn't he play with the  Kingscourt and Cavan teams of the 80s with Joe Dillon, Jim Reilly and the Faulkners?  Cornerback for Cavan?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on August 29, 2012, 03:48:45 PM
PP Galligan(Mullahoran) - Best midfielder i've seen play in the championship this year by a large stretch.
Dean Connolly(Cootehill)
Boo
I'd agree with all those names other than Chops(Kevin McConnell).
Hes just too small for Senior Inter county level in my opinion.
Unless the player is exceptionally gifted,we need to forget about the men of 5'8 and 5'9.
An intercounty team during  can  afford maybe 1 of them at most in their starting 15.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on August 29, 2012, 03:54:03 PM
Quote from: Denn Forever on August 29, 2012, 03:47:49 PM
QuoteDon't know of a Joe McArdle.

Didn't he play with the  Kingscourt and Cavan teams of the 80s with Joe Dillon, Jim Reilly and the Faulkners?  Cornerback for Cavan?


He probaly did yeah, i was born in the late 80's so wouldn't know tbh.

Eoin Cusack- Crosserlough is a good footballer, can play midfield, half forward. Teevan is a very good player, been playing good stuff for a few years with Belturbet, never played any level with Cavan. Been very impressed with Oisin O Connnell aswell. Hasn't been great stuff so far, hopefully the quarter finals show up better games.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on August 29, 2012, 03:55:48 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on August 29, 2012, 03:54:03 PM
Quote from: Denn Forever on August 29, 2012, 03:47:49 PM
QuoteDon't know of a Joe McArdle.

Didn't he play with the  Kingscourt and Cavan teams of the 80s with Joe Dillon, Jim Reilly and the Faulkners?  Cornerback for Cavan?


He probaly did yeah, i was born in the late 80's so wouldn't know tbh.

Eoin Cusack- Crosserlough is a good footballer, can play midfield, half forward. Teevan is a very good player, been playing good stuff for a few years with Belturbet, never played any level with Cavan. Been very impressed with Oisin O Connnell aswell. Hasn't been great stuff so far, hopefully the quarter finals show up better games.

He has been brilliant for Castlerahan this year. Anytime i seen them in the league(havent seen them in championship yet) he was their stand out player.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: scoopmine on August 29, 2012, 05:35:21 PM
Thats Barry Mcardle he managed Kingscourt a few years back and Corduff when the got to the Ulster final against Swad.

Joe Mac is involved with the senior set up. I'm unsure of the u21s
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: PhilsJemmysField on August 30, 2012, 02:49:05 PM
Big night for Jim Smith in Killinkere if anybody interested when times were good (he had 13 Ulster championships)
The second link gives more a flavour of the old times

http://www.hoganstand.com/cavan/ArticleForm.aspx?ID=176383


http://www.hoganstand.com/cavan/ArticleForm.aspx?ID=62298

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on September 02, 2012, 01:04:25 PM
I was at the Crosserlough/Drung and Cootehil/Killeshandra, and also 3 games yesterday which was a mistake, Lacken/Drumlane followed by Tport/Maghera and Mullahoran/Ballinagh..

A County manager or selector wouldn't be impressed with the football on offer. I don't know how Drung made it out of their group as they were really poor on friday. Barry Mckiernan hit a few great scores for clough, a bit greedy at times though, Dara McVeerty was very good, very pacey and can pick a pass, scored 2 nice pts. Declan Mckiernan and Austin fitz were a big miss for Killeshandra. John McCuthcheon was very good at midfield, how he was let go from the Cavan panel showed how much Andrews knew. Mark Mullen was impressive again, enda hessin had a great game aswell at wing forward- a real speed merchant. Should be a interesting game between them and Crosserlough.

Lacken were leading 1-7 to no score at half time yesterday, playing with a strong wind. Drumlane couldn't get the ball out of there own 45 in the first half, Ray Galliagan and Niall Mckiernan hit some great scores, Drumlane came more into it in the second half, JP Kelly was decent from midfield. strong runner, Barry Corrigan tried hard. They didn't have enough in the forwards, kicked some really poor wides when they were trying to edge back into the game. Dane o Dowd was ok, but I expected more from a County player.

Ballinagh/ Mullahoran was a poor game, goal from Gaynor on the stroke of half time had ballinagh ahead, Should have been given for a free out on a foul on the Mullahoran full back. Mullahoran deserved the win, ballinagh only managed 2 scores in the second half playing with the breeze. Eddie Reilly and Dermot Sheridan were proably the best players on the Mullahoran team. Don't think they will get any further than the semi's.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on September 02, 2012, 03:11:42 PM
Killygarry beat the Gaels by a point in Breffni!!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on September 02, 2012, 03:14:04 PM
Just heard that, 10-9.. Gaels wont be winning Ulster for a while yet Myels, i remember you said they would win it soon enough during the Johnston transfer ::)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on September 02, 2012, 03:14:55 PM
oh jaysus don't start that!! Bitta row afterwards I believe...
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on September 02, 2012, 03:20:42 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on September 02, 2012, 03:19:04 PM
Ha, I like to see all the Cavan clubs do well in the Ulster Club, but great to see Killygarry getting success, a lot of lads sound lads in that club, I heard they could be losing Thomas and Eoin Smith at the end of the year, suppose to have got work abroad.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on September 02, 2012, 06:56:30 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on September 02, 2012, 03:14:04 PM
Just heard that, 10-9.. Gaels wont be winning Ulster for a while yet Myels, i remember you said they would win it soon enough during the Johnston transfer ::)

I'll try and keep it together following the disappointment of that result. Dont recall saying that anyway, please produce your evidence.



Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on September 02, 2012, 07:49:05 PM
Myles you have obviously deleted it, you said it on the Seanie Johnston transfer forum which was on the main forum for six months couldn't find those lines.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on September 02, 2012, 07:55:18 PM
I deleted nothing mate. If its not there I didn't write it. I do recall saying I'd be delighted to see the Gaels win Ulster without him not sure I said that I thought they would do it though. You are very excited about this, why so?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on September 02, 2012, 08:00:53 PM
Yes Myles I'm excited about Killygarry winning the Championship^

Maybe thats what you siad, we will leave it at that.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Bananas on September 02, 2012, 09:54:41 PM
Surprised by the Gaels result. They hadn't been playing that well but I thought they'd have had enough to see off Killygarry today. Didn't make it into the game due to work commitments, could somebody shed some light on what happened after the full time whistle? Any red cards shown?

No surprise to see the other 3 ease their way into the semi's. It's Kingscourt's to lose now and the winner will surely come from that semi final. The same could be said for the Lacken vs Crosserlough semi final.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: PhilsJemmysField on September 03, 2012, 11:53:06 AM
was at most of the games at the weekend, In intermediate, thought Lacken lads were an example of Power play, McCutcheon and speed of Cootehill forwards were very good, McKiernan was unfortunately excellent and we could not live with him or Michael Cunningham.  Then in the senior all very poor games really and standard was weird. Gaels have only themselves t blame and were not up t scratch against Killygarry where Thomas had good moments. Bud was good against Castlerahan at times and Sean Brady showed flashes of past form. Mullahoran and the Nagh was a very strange affair and as bad as our man as Ref in the Gaels game. The decisions in this game were wild at times
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on September 05, 2012, 11:06:38 AM
Quote from: Richiej on July 29, 2012, 05:49:58 AM
These w**kers hate the hoganstand but they cant take their eyes off it for news. Their bollox wouldnt get printed there so the " seanie hater "myles would be banned long ago. He use to be there ... the p***k!
I see Seanie is just 3 steps away from the celtic cross.............Word is he will be back playing with the gaels soon......if that move rags mylesthe"seanie hater" well im all for it!
So bananas post away with your crap about who dissapoints you and who doesnt,
The Oliver Plunkett Cup Will still be around the Rossa come late Sept.
Pop in and have a look if your passing..........Maybe those Gaels players who have dissapointed you might be there to welcome you!

I wonder where our good friend RichieJ had gone to , this is a part of his last post here.

Poor fellow got it all wrong  :-[
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on September 05, 2012, 02:44:26 PM
Quote from: tommysmith on September 05, 2012, 11:06:38 AM
Quote from: Richiej on July 29, 2012, 05:49:58 AM
These w**kers hate the hoganstand but they cant take their eyes off it for news. Their bollox wouldnt get printed there so the " seanie hater "myles would be banned long ago. He use to be there ... the p***k!
I see Seanie is just 3 steps away from the celtic cross.............Word is he will be back playing with the gaels soon......if that move rags mylesthe"seanie hater" well im all for it!
So bananas post away with your crap about who dissapoints you and who doesnt,
The Oliver Plunkett Cup Will still be around the Rossa come late Sept.
Pop in and have a look if your passing..........Maybe those Gaels players who have dissapointed you might be there to welcome you!

I wonder where our good friend RichieJ had gone to , this is a part of his last post here.

Poor fellow got it all wrong  :-[
;D Nice bump Tommy!!!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Bananas on September 05, 2012, 10:51:16 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on September 05, 2012, 02:44:26 PM
Quote from: tommysmith on September 05, 2012, 11:06:38 AM
Quote from: Richiej on July 29, 2012, 05:49:58 AM
These w**kers hate the hoganstand but they cant take their eyes off it for news. Their bollox wouldnt get printed there so the " seanie hater "myles would be banned long ago. He use to be there ... the p***k!
I see Seanie is just 3 steps away from the celtic cross.............Word is he will be back playing with the gaels soon......if that move rags mylesthe"seanie hater" well im all for it!
So bananas post away with your crap about who dissapoints you and who doesnt,
The Oliver Plunkett Cup Will still be around the Rossa come late Sept.
Pop in and have a look if your passing..........Maybe those Gaels players who have dissapointed you might be there to welcome you!

I wonder where our good friend RichieJ had gone to , this is a part of his last post here.

Poor fellow got it all wrong  :-[
;D Nice bump Tommy!!!

Hahahaha I might tip into the rossa for a look in a few weeks and see what's there to behold!  ;D

I see Richie has vanished from the Hoganstand forums as well. I'm sure he'll be back next year under a different alias. Up there with tomsmith as the two biggest jokers going  ::)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on September 06, 2012, 10:30:47 AM
I dont mind tomsmith he is a obvious wum .

Anyway bananas, has anyone caught you're eye during the championship, i have been at feck all games myself this year.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Bananas on September 06, 2012, 02:42:38 PM
Quote from: tommysmith on September 06, 2012, 10:30:47 AM
I dont mind tomsmith he is a obvious wum .

Anyway bananas, has anyone caught you're eye during the championship, i have been at feck all games myself this year.

Yeah that's true! Been to a lot of games this year, particularly Intermediate and Senior, and despite the standard being shocking there have been a few great individual performances I think. A few that who weren't (I don't think but correct me if I'm wrong) involved in the county set up against Donegal and caught my eye were:

Oisin O'Connell (Castlerahan) - Good playmaker and scorer, best player I've seen this summer.

Cian Mackey (Castlerahan) - Never seemed to do much at intercounty level but has been impressive all year for Castlerahan, even though he's slightly small for midfield. Good man to win breaking ball.

Kevin ''Chops'' McConnell (Belturbet) - Terrier at CHB and a nightmare for any number 11 to come up against. Some say he may be too small height-wise for intercounty but that's debatable.

Mark Teevan - (Belturbet) - Had a disaster of a game in the quarter final but has been playing great stuff up until then and has the makings of a good footballer.

PP Galligan - (Mullahoran) Definitely Mullahoran's standout player at centre field. Big lad who can catch ball and distributes well.

Hard to judge Kingscourt and Killygarry players as I don't think the games I've seen them play in this year were a fair representation. But 4 players who impressed me before were Alan Wakely and Alan Clarke (Kingscourt) and Ross Sheridan and Donal Thomas (Killygarry)

A few others were:
John McCutcheon (Cootehill)
Niall Madden (Gowna)
Mark Cunningham (Swanlinbar)
Darragh McGovern (Kildallon)
Sean McCormack (Ballyhaise)
Niall McKiernan (Lacken)
Keith Fannin (Drumgoon)

I'm not saying these should be intercounty players by any means but they have been impressive when I've seen them more than once. Other players I've seen are either involved with the county team or I haven't seen them enough to give a fair opinion.

Not that my opinion matters really  8)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on September 06, 2012, 05:09:46 PM
Quote from: Bananas on September 06, 2012, 02:42:38 PM
Quote from: tommysmith on September 06, 2012, 10:30:47 AM
I dont mind tomsmith he is a obvious wum .

Anyway bananas, has anyone caught you're eye during the championship, i have been at feck all games myself this year.

Yeah that's true! Been to a lot of games this year, particularly Intermediate and Senior, and despite the standard being shocking there have been a few great individual performances I think. A few that who weren't (I don't think but correct me if I'm wrong) involved in the county set up
against Donegal and caught my eye were:



Oisin O'Connell (Castlerahan) - Good playmaker and scorer, best player I've seen this summer.

Cian Mackey (Castlerahan) - Never seemed to do much at intercounty level but has been impressive all year for Castlerahan, even though he's slightly small for midfield. Good man to win breaking ball.

Kevin ''Chops'' McConnell (Belturbet) - Terrier at CHB and a nightmare for any number 11 to come up against. Some say he may be too small height-wise for intercounty but that's debatable.

Mark Teevan - (Belturbet) - Had a disaster of a game in the quarter final but has been playing great stuff up until then and has the makings of a good footballer.

PP Galligan - (Mullahoran) Definitely Mullahoran's standout player at centre field. Big lad who can catch ball and distributes well.

Hard to judge Kingscourt and Killygarry players as I don't think the games I've seen them play in this year were a fair representation. But 4 players who impressed me before were Alan Wakely and Alan Clarke (Kingscourt) and Ross Sheridan and Donal Thomas (Killygarry)

A few others were:
John McCutcheon (Cootehill)
Niall Madden (Gowna)
Mark Cunningham (Swanlinbar)
Darragh McGovern (Kildallon)
Sean McCormack (Ballyhaise)
Niall McKiernan (Lacken)
Keith Fannin (Drumgoon)

I'm not saying these should be intercounty players by any means but they have been impressive when I've seen them more than once. Other players I've seen are either involved with the county team or I haven't seen them enough to give a fair opinion.

Not that my opinion matters really  8)


I think you meant Michael and not Mark Cunningham. Mark Cunningham is in Oz.Big miss for Swad ,but they have been going well without him.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Bananas on September 06, 2012, 10:31:48 PM
Yes, my mistake! Don't think they will have enough to get past Cootehill but it could go either way.

As I was saying on Hoganstand I can't believe the scoreline of the recent Kingscourt league game. 2-17 to 0-01 is some win. They look like strong favourites for the senior championship.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on September 06, 2012, 10:37:55 PM
I don't think much could be read out of that result tbh, Ballyhaise have been out of the championship about 2 weeks, and i doubt they have trained since then, as they are doomed in the league with only 2 games left. Still it was a good scoring from kingscourt, and they will have Joe Dillon back for the semi aswell.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on September 07, 2012, 12:29:40 AM
Lads
Pay no attention to that scoreline,
Our juniors and Kingscourts juniors were playing in a Championship quarter final replay in Kingscourts on Tuesday,
Kingscourt won that, The senior league game between both was then scheduled for 8.45 afterwards
Unfortunately we were missing virtually all of our senior team for various reasons and 10-11 of the poor lads on the junior team had to trapse back out after a hard game and take on probably the best senior club team in the county. It was the likes of Barry Reily,Alan Clarke. Ryan McCormack and co against tired Ballyhaise Junior players.
We should have just given them a walkover to tell you the truth.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on September 07, 2012, 11:54:36 AM
Club football really is a mess when you have games being played that mean so little that players dont bother to turn up to.  Its not long ago that we had the farce of no relegation for a year or two in the league.

It's all building to this big plan which i hope will work but i dont think it will, amagalamations might work if two clubs are involved but when you go over that all it will just lead to in fighting and clubs trying to get their own men on the field.

I would like to know what the lads here  who are currently playing think of it and what their relations are like with neighbouring clubs who they may have to join with?

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on September 07, 2012, 12:25:44 PM
Another thing about the league is the timing of it. It started this year in Feburary the earliest in a long time, but its still dragging on in September. With a round this weekend and one final round, then the semi's and Final. Too much lee-way given for the u21's earlier in the year
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Bananas on September 07, 2012, 06:37:38 PM
Quote from: tommysmith on September 07, 2012, 11:54:36 AM
Club football really is a mess when you have games being played that mean so little that players dont bother to turn up to.  Its not long ago that we had the farce of no relegation for a year or two in the league.

It's all building to this big plan which i hope will work but i dont think it will, amagalamations might work if two clubs are involved but when you go over that all it will just lead to in fighting and clubs trying to get their own men on the field.

I would like to know what the lads here  who are currently playing think of it and what their relations are like with neighbouring clubs who they may have to join with?

That ''no relegation'' idea was laughable....

I don't think it will work either. The general consensus seems to be that although there are some major issues with the whole set up, beneath it all the players are not good enough. And if this is the case then why would people think that amalgamation nonsense would change anything. Players will not  be ''reborn'' with a new, amalgamated club, they will still be the same lads playing.

And all this talk of ''playing at a higher level''. Talk is cheap. Anyone who has been involved with the minor or underage set-up recently will see that amalgamations are not really the way forward at all. The minor championship this year has been a poorer standard than 3, 2 or even 1 year ago.

The problem (In my opinion) has more to do with the poor standard of coaching from grass roots up. An example relevant to me was that I was asked to train and manage our u12's two years ago despite the fact I had never been involved with managing such a young age group before (And there's a big difference between u12 and u16/minor let me tell you). Now this is not a big deal by any means but it shows how volunteers are numbered and the majority involved are parents of players etc.

If a higher standard of coaching could be created then this, I feel, would do a lot more for us in the future. Of course this would be too sensible and the fact that it would take time and effort to both overcome problems (availability/willingness of coaches) and to see the results means it will probably not happen for a long time.

Instead, let's just relegate half of division 1, slap a few neighbouring clubs together and hope for the best.

Bananas
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on September 07, 2012, 08:14:28 PM
Looking at this from a distance it seems like the County Board is determined to push ahead with amalgamations at underage level. They seemed to put great spin on the Quality of the Under 21 Championship earlier this year and I think I remember a few statements being made about the number of amalgamated clubs in that, how it was raising the quality of things etc. I can see how this might impact the quality of senior stuff in the longer term as amalgamations at underage will simply mean some lads will be lost at that level. There's another challenge I see in that some great underage lads have been developed from the smaller clubs through underage development panels. A lot of these young lads are also getting high quality action through colleges football etc. How do you keep these blokes going to the next level if their club is really struggling for numbers. Thinking of Shannon Gaels here which had the highest representation on this years Under 21 panel, I think.

I have none of the answers here and I don't envy the lads that are trying to juggle all the issues. On balance I think the views put on here that you have as many Underage teams as possible and put them in divisions accordingly is the better way to go. More interested lads playing and more hope of late developers, Anthony Forde and Jason Reilly didn't play Minor for the County (I'm fairly sure) they had ulster medals by age 20. The GAA is about more than club and county success as well, it serves a great social purpose by getting as many as possible playing ball and off the streets. Enjoy reading some very interesting views and contributions, cheers 
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on September 07, 2012, 09:14:18 PM
Nicholas Walsh created lots of coaching courses at Foundation level etc for people looking to get involved in Coaching from a basic level and gradually build up. He was a top class coach, various sessions take place in breffni on the 3g pitch during the year, Its up to whoever wants to get involved at the end of the day.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: WarriorBoy on September 07, 2012, 11:31:54 PM
Who from Cavan Gaels would be worth a call into the county set up this year, am sure there was some lads that played well for them this year that could be given at least a chance?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on September 07, 2012, 11:44:27 PM
More like who wasn't tried from Cavan Gaels this year,.. A load tried during the McKenna Cup if you remember.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: WarriorBoy on September 07, 2012, 11:52:15 PM
Yes I agree there was a good few of them in last year and maybe some them shouldn't.. Just like others clubs as-well. Players in their that maybe shouldn't like I said....Is there anyone who played well for them this year that maybe might get a Chance??

Cause there was enough chancers their last year?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on September 08, 2012, 12:20:01 AM
Probaly Eammon and Dominic Reilly, but they won't or can't commit ,so couldn't do much about that.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: scoopmine on September 08, 2012, 04:56:45 PM
lavey-Castlerahan 2.07 - 1.10 O'Raghallaigh Gaels

Great of ball Lavey kicked four or five bad wides and Gaels were up by 6 points going into time added on. First goal for LC was great finish then last kick of the game high ball into the square and found its way into the net. Really enjoyable game and Micky had a good game as ref.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: WarriorBoy on September 10, 2012, 02:03:26 PM
dont now about them now..I was at a few games this year and dont think dominic reilly will be, But there half back line this year was an improvement and imprssed me when  I seen them , Does martin Dunne deserve a better chnace with cavan maybe?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on September 10, 2012, 04:32:02 PM
I mentioned the 2 Reillys as they weren't involved this year, not sure if Dominic ever played Senior with Cavan, but Eammon di,d but hasn't played with Cavan since Keoghan was manager I think, in the first year Keoghan was over Cavan. They are usually consistent for the Gaels hence why I mentioned them.

Martin Reilly did get chances with Cavan this year but wasn't fully fit for the Donegal game. Was probaly kept for the juniors when he wasn't played against Fermanagh or Kildare. Decent player but I would rate Barry Reilly ahead of him

Declan Meehan wasn't even a regular with the Gaels last year and he was involved with Cavan this year, he only came on as a sub against Killygarry when they were knocked out. Plenty of other club players could have been tried earlier in the year without having players who couldn't even make their own club team. Same with Connor McGlarey, They are willing to play and can't fault them as its tough to get on the Gaels team, but if they were picking players from the Gaels as least pick those who are regulars...
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on September 10, 2012, 04:41:56 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on September 10, 2012, 04:32:02 PM
I mentioned the 2 Reillys as they weren't involved this year, not sure if Dominic ever played Senior with Cavan, but Eammon di,d but hasn't played with Cavan since Keoghan was manager I think, in the first year Keoghan was over Cavan. They are usually consistent for the Gaels hence why I mentioned them.

Martin Reilly did get chances with Cavan this year but wasn't fully fit for the Donegal game. Was probaly kept for the juniors when he wasn't played against Fermanagh or Kildare. Decent player but I would rate Barry Reilly ahead of him

Declan Meehan wasn't even a regular with the Gaels last year and he was involved with Cavan this year, he only came on as a sub against Killygarry when they were knocked out. Plenty of other club players could have been tried earlier in the year without having players who couldn't even make their own club team. Same with Connor McGlarey, They are willing to play and can't fault them as its tough to get on the Gaels team, but if they were picking players from the Gaels as least pick those who are regulars...


Martin Dunne that should have been.

Martin Reilly from killygarry is probaly worth a look next year. I remember he destroyed lacken in the league a few months ago, played good stuff with Cavan Juniors too. See how he gets on against Mullahoran.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on September 15, 2012, 10:05:59 PM
Castlerahan were flat out keeping the ball kicked out to Kingscourt in the second half, goal before half time was a killer...

SFC: Stars steamroll Castlerahan

Kingscourt 1-16
Castlerahan 1-6

By Shane Corrigan

Kingscourt Stars' rise towards a second senior championship title in three years continued tonight as they dismantled Castlerahan at Kingspan Breffni Park.

Cavan U21 captain Barry Reilly was in sublime form for the winners, as were so many, with half-forward Joe McMahon contributing 1-1 and Barry Tully finishing with 0-3 from wing-back.

In truth, Castlerahan only stayed with their opponents for the first 15 minutes of this encounter and were dealt a killer blow on the eve of half-time when McMahon goaled. From there, Dudley Farrell's charges would go on to own the second-half, outscoring last year's beaten finalists by 0-10 to 1-3, with Oisin O'Connell grabbing the late goal, to march into the county final against either Killygarry or Mullahoran next month as firm favourites.

After some early chances went by the wayside, Reilly had Kingscourt off the mark on five minutes with a well-executed '45' which the full-forward backed up three minutes later with a free from a similar position.

Reilly cut inside for point number three in the next attack, with a goal chance on, before Castlerahan posted their reply through Sean Brady when the former county senior was sent on his way by 40 yards man Ronan Flanagan.

A splendid score from Nigel Duignan halved the difference for the Maroons, but they were struggling to cope with the stylish Reilly down the other end as he swung over his fourth off his weaker right boot from the left flank to keep the initiative with Kingscourt. Ryan McCormack would become the

Stars' second scorer in the 16th minute with an identical effort, but Castlerahan, who were guilty of turning over possession on too many occasions already, managed to keep in touch with a Cian Mackey free.

Reilly saw a 50-metre free come off the upright, but it didn't dishearten the eight-time champions as they finished out the half strong with an outstanding point from midfielder Colm Smith and a goal with the last touch when Joe McMahon capitalised on a mistake from goalkeeper Jamie Leahy to smash to the net, leaving the score-line at 1-6 to 0-3 for the interval.

Keen to implement the long ball tactic, Ciaran Macken would send Paul Brady on at full-forward in the second-half for Castlerahan and the substitute paid immediate dividends with an early point on the edge of the square, which would be erased in the next passage of play when Tomas Malone sent McMahon through on goal and the wing-forward fisted over Leahy's crossbar this time.

Barry Tully and Philip Smith extended the 2010 champions' advantage to eight in the next two attacks and when the reliable Reilly struck another accurate free, the Ballyjamesduff outfit were truly left with an uphill battle heading into the closing 20 minutes.

Mackey ended a 10-minute scoring drought with a sorely needed free, but there was simply no stemming the Kingscourt tide as Leahy was forced to tip over Philip Smith's stinging shot and the centre-forward backed it up with another well-struck score which sent their opponents further adrift.

A 57th minute goal from Oisin O'Connell would only provide consolation for Castlerahan as a brace of points from the tireless Barry Tully and another from substitute Sean Og Gargan outweighed a sole effort from Ronan Flanagan to round off a 10-point victory for Farrell's men in the end.

Kingscourt: James Farrelly; Padraig Faulkner, Thomas Wakely, Shane Gray; Barry Tully (0-3), Alan Clarke, Keith McCabe; Colm Smith (0-1), Joe Dillon; Joe McMahon (1-1), Philip Smith (0-3), Philip Tinnelly; Tomas Malone, Barry Reilly (0-6, 2f, 1 '45'), Ryan McCormack (0-1). Subs: Sean Og Gargan (0-1) for R McCormack (49), Kieran Smith for J Dillon (49), Gavin Sheehan for T Malone (56).

Castlerahan: Jamie Leahy; Stephen Cooney, David Wright, Brian Coleman; Eugene Kill, Enda O'Connell, Fergal Reilly; Cian Mackey (0-2, 2f), Enda Flanagan; Nigel Duignan (0-1), Ronan Flanagan (0-1), Caolan McBreen; Sean Brady (0-1), Fergal Flanagan, Oisin O'Connell. Subs: Paul Brady (0-1) for E Flanagan (30), Alan Cusack for F Flanagan (45), Stephen Foran for N Duigan (47), Padraig McGahern for McBreen (59).

Ref: Joe McQuillan (Kill Shamrocks)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on September 16, 2012, 02:06:33 PM
Went into Breffni last night to watch the Kingscourt Castlerahan game. It was competitive enough up till the soft goal Kingscourt got just before half time although having seen the game out that was more to do with Kingscourt not getting into top gear quick enough. Castlerahan really had a strange tactic of getting loads of men behind the ball but doing nothing to support their own counter attacks. Their insistence on blasting high balls at no one in particular was bizarre too and I felt sorry for their forwards who really got nothing of any quality put into them.

When Kingscourt got going they were impressive and they certainly have some players that Hyland should be looking at. Barry Reilly was very good and an addition to his game of kicking of the ground was very impressive where he kicked some 45's and frees from tough positions. If he is on the senior panel next year then this will be a very useful part of his game. Elsewhere I was impressed with their big midfielder Colm Smith, tigerish pacy wing back Barry Tully (who got 2 or 3 points also) and powerful wing forward Joe McMahon. Alan Clarke held the middle but in truth was not under much pressure. Can't really say how Wakely played as again he hadn't much to do. I think they should win the final. It was good to see some proper football being played anyway.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on September 16, 2012, 08:05:56 PM
Mullahoran beat Killygarry by 2 points today so they'll play kingscourt in the senior final.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on September 17, 2012, 03:31:57 PM
Lacken - Crosserlough last night was a decent match.. Could have went either way, Ray Galligan missed a open goal in the first half and Niall Mckiernan hit the cross bar in the closing stages. Crosserlough hit a lot wide and dropped 5 or 6 point shots shots into Colin Comerford. I though James McEvoy was very good for Crosserlough, and should be a key player on the county u21 team next year. Lacken had Kevin Shanagy sent off before after time after giving away a penaly, Lacken had been on top at that stage, thought Lacken played well enough with 14 men in the second half. Possibly lucky to hang on, but the 2 goal chances were a big let off for Crosserlough so a draw was probaly the fair result.

Castlerahan tactics cost them on Saturday. Kicking high ball into Oisin O Connell who is about 5f 8 was never going to work. Cian Mackey was outplayed in midfield, Kingscourt have lots of pace and don't rely on just 1 or 2 players to score. C Can't see Mullahoran beating Kingscourt.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on September 17, 2012, 07:18:12 PM
Quote from: tommysmith on September 17, 2012, 03:11:35 PM
Was in at that Saturday night myself Myles and while Kingscourt were impressive Castlerahan were brutal and Kingscourt won without having to break sweat.

I didn't go to the other Semi Final but i heard it was a brutal standard of football.

Football in Cavan is getting worse.

Castlerahans game plan was ridiculous and they seemed to have no plan to change it. That was a pity as I looking forward to seeing how their FF line did but since they got no ball other than mad hail marys there was no chance of seeing any contest in that area.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on September 17, 2012, 07:27:37 PM
Quote from: tommysmith on September 17, 2012, 03:11:35 PM
Football in Cavan is getting worse.

Ahh to be honest I don't think sweeping statements like that are true...  Was at the Senior Semi-Final in Monaghan yesterday, first match wasn't great fare at all - Kingscourt/Castlerahan game was far better stuff.  The second one Ballybay/Latton was entertaining due in small part to Latton giving their neighbours the freedom of the park - such tactical naviety isn't a sign of good football

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on September 17, 2012, 08:30:04 PM
People keep saying Cavan football is getting worse. When was it actually that good? No Cavan team has ever won the Ulster Club. Cavan Gaels were beaten in the first round last year against Glenswilly who had  won their first every county Championship a few weeks previously. Glenswilly were then beaten in the next round at home to the Monaghan Champions.

Kingscourt have been by far the best team I saw this year. I remember Lacken bet them in the league by a point, but lacken were leading by 8 at one stage and they kept fighting back, lacken got a late score to nick it. I think Castlerahan are better then that showing aswell, they drew against Kingscourt in the league and had been the form team in Cavan for a number of months. Just weren't at the races , like the Co Final last year, .. they have a young team so they will be back!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on September 17, 2012, 08:40:32 PM
Yea I think Cavan club football is beginning to level out... The complete and total dominance of Cavan Gaels is no more but no doubt they will be in the shake-up for the Championship for the foreseeable future.  Not sure how next year and all those amalgamations will work out - I'm not optimistic about them to be honest
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on September 18, 2012, 12:02:17 PM
Senior Championship final has been moved forward to September 30th. Paul the Gunner is going for his 4th World handball Championship the following week so I presume they are accomodating him. Good to see common sense being used.

It was pointed out to me the other evening that from the 12 teams left in the championship in Junior, Intermediate and Senior before the weekend only 3 players from the starting 15 against Kildare were still involved.
I would be inclined to agree with Tommy on this one. Cavan club football may be evening out but I think it's fair to say that the standard has deteriorated. Kingscourt have obviously upped the ante and are looking strong while Mullahoran are grinding out results as only they can but after that a lot of clubs at all levels are failing to reach their potential.

I know I am late in asking this but can anybody shed some light on how a certain Ballinagh player was allowed to play in the recent Senior Championship Q-Finals after initially been handed an 8 week suspension? I believe a neighbouring club had an influence? Could Rodney or anybody else enlighten me?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on September 18, 2012, 12:56:04 PM
Quote from: boojangles on September 18, 2012, 12:02:17 PM

I know I am late in asking this but can anybody shed some light on how a certain Ballinagh player was allowed to play in the recent Senior Championship Q-Finals after initially been handed an 8 week suspension? I believe a neighbouring club had an influence? Could Rodney or anybody else enlighten me?

I heard he appealed it and Ballinagh had independent witness's who were not linked to the club and they were called to the appeal and said that the player in question had not done what the referee sent him off for.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on September 18, 2012, 01:14:19 PM
The Ballinagh player was handed 8 weeks and was cleared. I think he had served maybe 2 weeks of the ban, it was his 3rd sending off this year, against Lacken Cuchullains and Beltubet in the league, Shouldn't have been let play against Mullahoran but made no difference in the end.

Lacken - Crosserlough replay this Friday night, could possibly be a sending off or 2 as there was some big hits the last day. But unlike the Ballinagh player, the hits were fair and not hitting for the sake of it..
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on September 18, 2012, 09:46:06 PM
One other thing struck me about Castlerahan. Ronan Flanagan is a shadow of his former self, had a mediocre season with Cavan and did not stand out in any way for Rahan. In fact he gave away the ball that many times it was ridiculous. Hyland needs to look at these games and see who deserves a chance with Cavan and who doesn't. Giving lads a place based solely on the past performances is silly.

There are boys who want the likes of Mackey recalled, the more experienced players they say. Well to me Mackey looks to have a few pounds on him and spent most of the 2nd half standing with his hands on his hips trying to catch his breath. Clearly a lad not putting it in with training and so no place for that on the county team.

Is the O Connell lad good enough to warrant a run? He didn't get much service against Kingscourt.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on September 19, 2012, 10:07:49 AM
Quote from: tommysmith on September 18, 2012, 12:56:04 PM
Quote from: boojangles on September 18, 2012, 12:02:17 PM

I know I am late in asking this but can anybody shed some light on how a certain Ballinagh player was allowed to play in the recent Senior Championship Q-Finals after initially been handed an 8 week suspension? I believe a neighbouring club had an influence? Could Rodney or anybody else enlighten me?

I heard he appealed it and Ballinagh had independent witness's who were not linked to the club and they were called to the appeal and said that the player in question had not done what the referee sent him off for.

Yes I heard that. One is a referee. Since when did this become a practice or procedure of the CCC or County Board? They are now over ruling the report of a referee over the word of 2 spectators from a neighbouring club. So certain referees word now means more than others? Is this even allowed in the rule book?
My own club had a lad suspended for striking earlier in the year. The player he (supposedly) struck was willing to come in to the hearing and back up the players appeal contrary to the referees report. The player couldn't attend the night of the appeal because his wife was in labour but was willing to talk over the phone. The disciplinary committee wouldn't allow it. The player got 4 weeks and missed the 1st round of the championship. One rule for some clubs, another rule for other clubs.

I was premature yesterday saying that the Senior final had been moved. It appears that someone is holding it up. I hope they see common sense.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on September 19, 2012, 10:40:19 AM
Quote from: boojangles on September 19, 2012, 10:07:49 AM
Quote from: tommysmith on September 18, 2012, 12:56:04 PM
Quote from: boojangles on September 18, 2012, 12:02:17 PM

I know I am late in asking this but can anybody shed some light on how a certain Ballinagh player was allowed to play in the recent Senior Championship Q-Finals after initially been handed an 8 week suspension? I believe a neighbouring club had an influence? Could Rodney or anybody else enlighten me?

I heard he appealed it and Ballinagh had independent witness's who were not linked to the club and they were called to the appeal and said that the player in question had not done what the referee sent him off for.
Yes I heard that. One is a referee. Since when did this become a practice or procedure of the CCC or County Board? They are now over ruling the report of a referee over the word of 2 spectators from a neighbouring club. So certain referees word now means more than others? Is this even allowed in the rule book?

Its a a bit crazy and i doubt if it is in a rule book, sure its not that long ago that they wouldnt accept video in appeals.  The County Board seems to be run by a bunch of cowboys when you hear of that craic going on. 

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on September 19, 2012, 10:58:11 AM
Cavan Gaels lodged an appeal over a point that wasn't given against Killygarry, the appeal didn't work or every club would have been doing the same thing.. Too many clubs trying to follow County teams and get off with anything.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on September 19, 2012, 02:11:25 PM
Quote from: boojangles on September 19, 2012, 10:07:49 AM
Quote from: tommysmith on September 18, 2012, 12:56:04 PM
Quote from: boojangles on September 18, 2012, 12:02:17 PM

I know I am late in asking this but can anybody shed some light on how a certain Ballinagh player was allowed to play in the recent Senior Championship Q-Finals after initially been handed an 8 week suspension? I believe a neighbouring club had an influence? Could Rodney or anybody else enlighten me?

I heard he appealed it and Ballinagh had independent witness's who were not linked to the club and they were called to the appeal and said that the player in question had not done what the referee sent him off for.

Yes I heard that. One is a referee. Since when did this become a practice or procedure of the CCC or County Board? They are now over ruling the report of a referee over the word of 2 spectators from a neighbouring club. So certain referees word now means more than others? Is this even allowed in the rule book?
My own club had a lad suspended for striking earlier in the year. The player he (supposedly) struck was willing to come in to the hearing and back up the players appeal contrary to the referees report. The player couldn't attend the night of the appeal because his wife was in labour but was willing to talk over the phone. The disciplinary committee wouldn't allow it. The player got 4 weeks and missed the 1st round of the championship. One rule for some clubs, another rule for other clubs.

I was premature yesterday saying that the Senior final had been moved. It appears that someone is holding it up. I hope they see common sense.

A more informed board member has pointed me towards the correct procedure regarding the appeal process in the GAA. I received the following post.

his hearing was held in front of the Hearings Committee, who are totally independent of the CCC & the county board
- he only got off because the Hearings Committee, having heard the evidence from neutral witnesses, asked the referee did he wish to clarify his report. The referee wrote a letter in reply and this cleared the player.
- the " disciplinary committee ", ie the CCC, dont have anything to do with appeals. It was the Hearings Committee that would have heard that case. They only accept witness evidence given in person, and the rules do not allow them to accept evidence by phone. This is in line with GAA rules on appeals.

I apologise to anybody I may have offended with my previous post. The hearings Committee allows 3rd party witnesses to give evidence. The referee can then be asked to clarify any point within the report. The lesson is to always know the rules. I am still questioning the point on evidence by phone however like the rest of my understanding of the rules I am probably wrong.   
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on September 19, 2012, 02:39:44 PM
I did not know that 3rd party witnesses were allowed either and its something that i think can be abused.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on September 20, 2012, 12:51:52 PM
Could anyone come up up with a strong 15 players that would be good enough for County football?, and not the 15 that played against Kildare, not that some of them aren't good enough...

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on September 20, 2012, 01:41:31 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on September 20, 2012, 12:51:52 PM
Could anyone come up up with a strong 15 players that would be good enough for County football?, and not the 15 that played against Kildare, not that some of them aren't good enough...

1. James Farrelly
2. Damien Barkey
3. Rory Dunne
4. Killian Clarke
5. Ciarain Galligan
6. Alan Clarke
7. joshua hayes
8. John McCutcheon
9. Niall McKiernan
10. Niall Smith
11. Gearoid McKiernan
12. Barry Reily
13. Jack Brady
14. Declan McKiernan
15. Eugene Keating

Without thinking to much thats what i came up with.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on September 20, 2012, 01:57:58 PM
I see the Gaels are playing in the Kilmacud 7's this weekend i would expect them to do well in that if they take it serious.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on September 20, 2012, 04:39:27 PM
Quote from: tommysmith on September 20, 2012, 01:57:58 PM
I see the Gaels are playing in the Kilmacud 7's this weekend i would expect them to do well in that if they take it serious.

They would be capable of winning it, Kilmacud would probaly be the favs, Rory O Carrol, Cian O Sullivan, Kevin Nolan Mark Vaughann would be full of running.

A list of players i saw this year who didn't feature against Kildare but are playing decent stuff at club level,

1.James Farrelly - Kingscourt

2.Colin Lynch - Crosserlough3.Rory Dunne - Redhills 4. Killian Brady - Mullahoran

5. Paul McEvoy - Crosserlough 6. Alan Clark - Kinsgcourt 7. Barry Tully - Kingscourt
 
8. Niall McKiernan 9.John McCutheon

10. Michael Cunnigham - Swanlinbar 11. Barry Reilly -  Kingscourt - Cootehill 12. Mark Teevan - Belturbet

13. Mark Mullen - Cootehill 14. Ray Galligan - Lacken 15. Oisin O Connell - Castlerahan

Wouldn't expect all of them to be on the county panel next year but they are worth a trial in the Mckenna Cup. Ray Galligan has been there before but i think he is worth another try. Few other players like Niall Murray who i'd rate but he isn't playing much ball with the Gaels these days, quality player, Oisin Moynagh when he is fully fit and Declan Mckiernan would be others who would probaly be close to the strongest team when they are fully fit. Left out Declan Barkey as he would probaly be on the strongest 15.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on September 20, 2012, 04:50:18 PM
 Michael Cunnigham - Swanlinbar - I forgot about him i think Swad have the strongest midfield pairing in the county.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on September 20, 2012, 09:59:51 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on September 20, 2012, 04:39:27 PM
They would be capable of winning it, Kilmacud would probaly be the favs, Rory O Carrol, Cian O Sullivan, Kevin Nolan Mark Vaughann would be full of running.

A list of players i saw this year who didn't feature against Kildare but are playing decent stuff at club level,

1.James Farrelly - Kingscourt

2.Colin Lynch - Crosserlough3.Rory Dunne - Redhills 4. Killian Brady - Mullahoran

5. Paul McEvoy - Crosserlough 6. Alan Clark - Kinsgcourt 7. Barry Tully - Kingscourt
 
8. Niall McKiernan 9.John McCutheon

10. Michael Cunnigham - Swanlinbar 11. Barry Reilly -  Kingscourt - Cootehill 12. Mark Teevan - Belturbet

13. Mark Mullen - Cootehill 14. Ray Galligan - Lacken 15. Oisin O Connell - Castlerahan

Is that fecker transferring???  ;D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on September 20, 2012, 10:04:21 PM
Quote from: Celt_Man on September 20, 2012, 09:59:51 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on September 20, 2012, 04:39:27 PM
They would be capable of winning it, Kilmacud would probaly be the favs, Rory O Carrol, Cian O Sullivan, Kevin Nolan Mark Vaughann would be full of running.

A list of players i saw this year who didn't feature against Kildare but are playing decent stuff at club level,

1.James Farrelly - Kingscourt

2.Colin Lynch - Crosserlough3.Rory Dunne - Redhills 4. Killian Brady - Mullahoran

5. Paul McEvoy - Crosserlough 6. Alan Clark - Kinsgcourt 7. Barry Tully - Kingscourt
 
8. Niall McKiernan 9.John McCutheon

10. Michael Cunnigham - Swanlinbar 11. Barry Reilly -  Kingscourt - Cootehill 12. Mark Teevan - Belturbet

13. Mark Mullen - Cootehill 14. Ray Galligan - Lacken 15. Oisin O Connell - Castlerahan

Is that fecker transferring???  ;D

I think its a new amalgamation.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on September 20, 2012, 10:18:26 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on September 20, 2012, 10:04:21 PM
Quote from: Celt_Man on September 20, 2012, 09:59:51 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on September 20, 2012, 04:39:27 PM
They would be capable of winning it, Kilmacud would probaly be the favs, Rory O Carrol, Cian O Sullivan, Kevin Nolan Mark Vaughann would be full of running.

A list of players i saw this year who didn't feature against Kildare but are playing decent stuff at club level,

1.James Farrelly - Kingscourt

2.Colin Lynch - Crosserlough3.Rory Dunne - Redhills 4. Killian Brady - Mullahoran

5. Paul McEvoy - Crosserlough 6. Alan Clark - Kinsgcourt 7. Barry Tully - Kingscourt
 
8. Niall McKiernan 9.John McCutheon

10. Michael Cunnigham - Swanlinbar 11. Barry Reilly -  Kingscourt - Cootehill 12. Mark Teevan - Belturbet

13. Mark Mullen - Cootehill 14. Ray Galligan - Lacken 15. Oisin O Connell - Castlerahan

Is that fecker transferring???  ;D

I think its a new amalgamation.

Don't get me started on those boyos!!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on September 21, 2012, 11:49:12 AM
Ha I'd say he will stick it out with Kingscourt till the county final, :D then again if he was able to play senior and intermediate with different clubs i doubt Cootehill would mind, swad would be for a shock...
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: PhilsJemmysField on September 24, 2012, 06:03:21 PM
http://www.sportsmanager.ie/cake/gaa2/kilmacudsevens/latestResults

Does not look like Gaels took part unless there is another section
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on September 26, 2012, 06:31:29 PM
Celt Man is very quiet these days.
Cute-hoorism at play,
Wait until you see him predicting Lacken by 15 points anyday now.

Prediction time lads

Senior
Kingscourt by 5

Intermediate
Its going to be very close in my opinion,
Lacken by 1

Junior
Mountnugent by 3
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on September 26, 2012, 08:54:17 PM
kingscourt by 6
Cootehill by 4
Laragh by 2
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on September 26, 2012, 09:01:43 PM
Think Kingscourt will win Sunday,. Mullahoran have done well to get to the final, they weren't that impressive in the group games, hammered cucu's in the final group game but they were already out. They are always tough to beat in any game, so it won't be easy for Kingscourt. Kingscourt by 2.

Lacken will need to improve to beat Cootehill, probaly should have been beaten in the replay. Crosserlough played better faster football. Cootehill have lots of pace, they will cause problems for Lacken, without 2 regular backs for the final. If Niall Mckiernan gets the better of McCutcheon that could shade it, McCutcheon has been class for Cootehill in the last few games.

Haven't seen laragh play this year, so I have no Idea what they are like. Mountnugent looked good last week, some good players like the Caffrey's, Thomas Brady and the County man Givney
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on September 29, 2012, 03:56:30 PM
I'm saying nothin!!

So Denn have topped Division 2 as Drung gave them a walkover last night in their final game.  They now play one of the teams in Div 1 for a playoff to go Senior Championship and Division 1 next year....

Anyway considering how important the league was this year, I haven't seen so many Walkovers given in Div 2 in the last ten years....
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on September 30, 2012, 05:28:47 PM
Poor game of Football today, the ref seemed to favour Mullahoran in a few calls, maybe revenge for the way Kingscourt won 2 years, him being from Cavan Gaels.

Paul Brady had a brillant game for Mullahoran but won't be available for the replay. Massive loss. Mullahoran got 2 late free in the 3 minutes added on from Enda Reilly, He was very good aswell. Cool head for a young player. Barry Reilly was very quiet, well marked, got some nice free's but i'd expect him to be better the next day, and Kingscourt overall, as they were poor today. Mullahoran played most of the football, leading by 5pts at one stage in the first half. Overall poor standard of football.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on October 01, 2012, 04:35:13 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on September 30, 2012, 05:28:47 PM
Poor game of Football today, the ref seemed to favour Mullahoran in a few calls, maybe revenge for the way Kingscourt won 2 years, him being from Cavan Gaels.

Paul Brady had a brillant game for Mullahoran but won't be available for the replay. Massive loss. Mullahoran got 2 late free in the 3 minutes added on from Enda Reilly, He was very good aswell. Cool head for a young player. Barry Reilly was very quiet, well marked, got some nice free's but i'd expect him to be better the next day, and Kingscourt overall, as they were poor today. Mullahoran played most of the football, leading by 5pts at one stage in the first half. Overall poor standard of football.

I though the ref did alright today, which calls do you think he favoured Mullahoran in?

Paul Brady is one of the best footballers in the County and its a shame that he will miss the replay.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on October 01, 2012, 04:41:14 PM
A blatant line ball that was given to Mullahoran, Mossy Malone then gave verbals and was sent off. Himself and Joe McQuillan should have spotted if, if not the ref then McQuillan. It led to a Mullahoran score. Some soft free's given, he told farrelly to hurry up at the end, and as he was about to kick it he blew for a hop ball, what was he suppose to do run and kick at the same time.. he was slow but , no keeper could pull that off.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on October 01, 2012, 05:00:57 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on October 01, 2012, 04:41:14 PM
A blatant line ball that was given to Mullahoran, Mossy Malone then gave verbals and was sent off. Himself and Joe McQuillan should have spotted if, if not the ref then McQuillan. It led to a Mullahoran score. Some soft free's given, he told farrelly to hurry up at the end, and as he was about to kick it he blew for a hop ball, what was he suppose to do run and kick at the same time.. he was slow but , no keeper could pull that off.

I didnt see the line ball but but i remember the incident.

I though that aswell on the kickout he didnt give him any time after he told him to hurry up, maybe he couldnt handle the ocassion.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on October 01, 2012, 10:55:43 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on October 01, 2012, 04:41:14 PM
A blatant line ball that was given to Mullahoran, Mossy Malone then gave verbals and was sent off. Himself and Joe McQuillan should have spotted if, if not the ref then McQuillan. It led to a Mullahoran score. Some soft free's given, he told farrelly to hurry up at the end, and as he was about to kick it he blew for a hop ball, what was he suppose to do run and kick at the same time.. he was slow but , no keeper could pull that off.

Very hard game to referee. I think Noel did well and I think you're implication that he was looking for revenge on Kingscourt is completely unfair on him. He can't be blamed for line ball calls in fairness. Mc Quillan also had Dermot Sheridan booked in the 1st half for nothing. Tully ran into him and came off worse. The Kingscourt keeper should have buried the ball as far as he could instead of delaying at the end.
Don't be surprised if you see Paul the Gunner play Sunday.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on October 01, 2012, 11:57:58 PM
Maybe revenge was a bit strong, but after the the final 2 years ago when the Gaels had some decisions against them i didnt think a ref from the Gaels would be in charge of a co final involving Kingscourt for a long time. It wasn't Kingscourt fault two years ago they won the game but had no luck on the day. Noel Mooney is a decent ref, saw him a few weeks ago and he let it go for the most part.
It probaly was Joe McQuillan who was over that line ball, it was a poor call to make and cost Kingscourt a player.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on October 02, 2012, 12:06:06 PM
That ref two years ago was from my own club, and i wouldn't say he a had a good match because he didn't.. He hasn't taken charge of a Senior Championship match since then. Kingscourt were the better team that day but a few big calls didn't go Cavan Gaels way that day. Its not against Mooney or Cavan Gaels, i just thought it was stange that he was the ref for sunday was from Cavan Gaels, as that game 2 years ago had a lot of controversy. Mooney wasn't biased, just thought the odd 50/50 was shaded to mullahoran. Just my opinion. Best of luck to the 2 teams the next day and Noel Mooney if he is the ref.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on October 03, 2012, 01:30:00 PM
Quote from: kounty on October 02, 2012, 09:53:08 PM
does anyone know when the u21 championship starts and the teams that are in division 1

Last weekend of the month its due to start.




I would take this as a positive step.
http://hoganstand.com/cavan/ArticleForm.aspx?ID=178507 (http://hoganstand.com/cavan/ArticleForm.aspx?ID=178507)

QuoteFormer Tyrone player Peter Donnelly has joined the Cavan backroom team.

Breffni County boss Terry Hyland has confirmed that Donnelly - an All-Ireland winner in 2005 - will fill the role of strength and conditioning coach next season. Hyland has also added a new selector, Joe McCarthy, to his management set-up.

"Peter has been coach within the Cavan system for a while and he's now going to be looking after the strength and conditioning of the senior squad," Hyland said in The Irish News.

Hyland is already focused on the task of put together a new panel ahead of the 2013 campaign.

"We have been looking at a lot of games at all levels," he explained.

"A panel will be drawn up shortly. It was a young squad that we were working with and trying to progress last season and we will look to build on that.

"It has not been the best of senior club championships this summer but what we look for its skills-based firstly, what the skill level of the individual is and then we can work on the other things.

"There have been some good U21 county squads in the last few years and players are continuing to come through and looking at all the championships, given that the likes of David Ginvey for example plays for a junior club, what we have noticed is how well the young players have been showing through for their clubs."
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on October 03, 2012, 01:55:14 PM
Anyone know anything about Donnelly and McCarthy? Who has stepped aside if McCarthy is now a selector?

I can't help but like Hyland, he's very straight. He wasn't afraid to call the Club Championship poor.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on October 03, 2012, 02:21:47 PM
Quote from: Westside on October 03, 2012, 01:55:14 PM
Anyone know anything about Donnelly and McCarthy? Who has stepped aside if McCarthy is now a selector?

I can't help but like Hyland, he's very straight. He wasn't afraid to call the Club Championship poor.

McCarthy has been involved with Hyland with the U21 the past 3 years.  I dont think anyone has stepped down Forde was the only selector last year and when Hyland was appointed he said he would be adding to the management team.

Donnellly has been working for the County board as a development officer (?) for a good while now.  If you were to believe all you hear it was him who was one of the main reasons for Drumalee winning the intermediate a few years agao.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BigMac on October 04, 2012, 07:30:25 AM
Donnelly is still a young lad, does he play any football himself anymore?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on October 04, 2012, 03:19:48 PM
Plays with Coalisland, he was on the Tyrone panel for a few seasons, never rmade it as a regular, He would probaly get on most other teams in Ulster. Captained the tyrone u21's when they won an All Ireland. 29 now, would be class be if was a player coach with Cavan, That would never happen though..
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on October 04, 2012, 10:25:25 PM
We had Peter Donnelly for a training session two years ago.
Brilliant coach and one of the most enjoying and challenging sessions i've had as a footballer.
He is very highly thought off throughout Ulster as a coach/trainer/strength and conditioning coach. It is a very Good appointment by Terry.
Good luck to Rodney/Celt Man/Beer Baron at the weekend in the Intermediate.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on October 05, 2012, 10:58:45 AM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on October 04, 2012, 10:25:25 PM
We had Peter Donnelly for a training session two years ago.
Brilliant coach and one of the most enjoying and challenging sessions i've had as a footballer.
He is very highly thought off throughout Ulster as a coach/trainer/strength and conditioning coach. It is a very Good appointment by Terry.
Good luck to Rodney/Celt Man/Beer Baron at the weekend in the Intermediate.

Cheers BH. Cootehill have an extra incentive by winning on Sunday, they would be playing Division 1 football and in the Senior Championship next year. Lacken will still be equally as hungry to win. Should be a good game of Football.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on October 07, 2012, 03:47:43 PM
Intermediate a draw, 1-10 each.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on October 07, 2012, 05:31:58 PM
Mullahoran take the senior title 1-8 to 0-7.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: PhilsJemmysField on October 08, 2012, 02:04:01 PM
Only saw second half of the Lacken / Cootehill game put a pacey Cootehill team really put it up to Lacken. Had a couple of chances including a free at the end to win it. The opinion around where I was though was a draw was fair enough as Lacken could have been out of sight at half time.

The senior final was poor enough and Kingscourt just did not seem to be able to push on and win it. The goal sealed it for Mullahoran who basically just hung in there and then took their chance
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on October 10, 2012, 09:33:00 PM
Our NFL 2013 fixtures

Sun Feb 3rd Antrim away
Sat Feb 9th Monaghan home
Sat Mar 2nd Meath away
Sun Mar 10th Sligo away
Sat Mar 16th Fermanagh home
Sun Mar 24th Wicklow away
Sub April 7th Roscommon home



Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on October 10, 2012, 10:03:30 PM
Good to get the usaul quota of away games  :(


Not one of them games will be easy but i hope to see a big improvement in performance this year.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on October 10, 2012, 11:58:29 PM
Hugely tough Division 3. There isn't one game there that you'd be going to thinking Cavan should win, bar perhaps the Fermanagh game. An awful lot of improvement is needed if we are to survive.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on October 11, 2012, 12:36:37 AM
Judging on this years performances,
You would probably only put us ahead of Fermanagh and Wicklow in the pecking order.
A massive step up is needed or we will be staring at another relegation struggle.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on October 11, 2012, 10:29:52 AM
To get the first game away again is a disaster, Antrim hammered Cavan in the final league game last year, I don't think they would hammer Cavan again but they are very hard to beat in Belfast. They will have to risk a few u21's in the league next year, no point sticking them in the deep end playing a Championship match without any league football.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanlad on October 11, 2012, 10:00:59 PM
Ulster U21 Draw 2013

Prelim Round: Fermanagh v Armagh.
Q'Finals: Tyrone v Donegal, Antrim v Derry, Cavan v Monaghan, Down v Prelim Rd winners

Good to be at home again, can't meet Tyrone till final again.

Mc Kenna Cup 2013

Section A: St Mary's , Fermanagh, Donegal, Monaghan
Section  B: Queens, Armagh, Cavan, Down
Section  C: Jordanstown, Tyrone, Derry, Antrim

A bit tough, playing Armagh in Champ but safe to say teams will be different.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on October 12, 2012, 09:31:46 AM
Quote from: rodney trotter on October 11, 2012, 10:29:52 AM
To get the first game away again is a disaster, Antrim hammered Cavan in the final league game last year, I don't think they would hammer Cavan again but they are very hard to beat in Belfast. They will have to risk a few u21's in the league next year, no point sticking them in the deep end playing a Championship match without any league football.

Now its hardly a disaster playing Antrim away is it?

To get up we would need 4 wins minimum. We would have to win our home games against Fermanagh and Monaghan, neither easy. Maybe away to Antrim and Wicklow could be the other 2. While there are no easy games I wouldn't be afraid of any team in it. Id like to see what players are on the panel for next season.

Championship draw is not to bad either but would like to avoid the preliminary round as even if you win your next opponent gets a chance to have watched you in action.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on October 12, 2012, 10:23:15 AM
Quote from: Itchy on October 12, 2012, 09:31:46 AM
Quote from: rodney trotter on October 11, 2012, 10:29:52 AM
To get the first game away again is a disaster, Antrim hammered Cavan in the final league game last year, I don't think they would hammer Cavan again but they are very hard to beat in Belfast. They will have to risk a few u21's in the league next year, no point sticking them in the deep end playing a Championship match without any league football.

Now its hardly a disaster playing Antrim away is it?

To get up we would need 4 wins minimum. We would have to win our home games against Fermanagh and Monaghan, neither easy. Maybe away to Antrim and Wicklow could be the other 2. While there are no easy games I wouldn't be afraid of any team in it. Id like to see what players are on the panel for next season.

Championship draw is not to bad either but would like to avoid the preliminary round as even if you win your next opponent gets a chance to have watched you in action.


Eh yeah, I would say it is a disaster playing Antrim away. .. To start off the league you would usually want  a home game first, They hammered Cavan in the last game of the league last year, they were without a few key players that day. Can't see Cavan being as bad again, but they will be confident of beating Cavan again. Obviously Cavan will be up for that game but its far from easy.

Cavan are very lucky to be not to be playing in Division 4 next year, take one game at a time.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on October 12, 2012, 10:47:13 AM
Quote from: rodney trotter on October 12, 2012, 10:23:15 AM
Quote from: Itchy on October 12, 2012, 09:31:46 AM
Quote from: rodney trotter on October 11, 2012, 10:29:52 AM
To get the first game away again is a disaster, Antrim hammered Cavan in the final league game last year, I don't think they would hammer Cavan again but they are very hard to beat in Belfast. They will have to risk a few u21's in the league next year, no point sticking them in the deep end playing a Championship match without any league football.

Now its hardly a disaster playing Antrim away is it?

To get up we would need 4 wins minimum. We would have to win our home games against Fermanagh and Monaghan, neither easy. Maybe away to Antrim and Wicklow could be the other 2. While there are no easy games I wouldn't be afraid of any team in it. Id like to see what players are on the panel for next season.

Championship draw is not to bad either but would like to avoid the preliminary round as even if you win your next opponent gets a chance to have watched you in action.


Eh yeah, I would say it is a disaster playing Antrim away. .. To start off the league you would usually want  a home game first, They hammered Cavan in the last game of the league last year, they were without a few key players that day. Can't see Cavan being as bad again, but they will be confident of beating Cavan again. Obviously Cavan will be up for that game but its far from easy.

Cavan are very lucky to be not to be playing in Division 4 next year, take one game at a time.

Not trying to start a feud with ya mate but in the grand scheme of this group surely Antrim would not be rated that highly. In order of quality id have

Meath
Monaghan
Sligo
Roscommon
Antrim
Wicklow
Fermanagh

So what I am saying is a "disaster" would have been away to Meath or Monaghan to start with. I agree you want to get off to a winning start so hopefully we can do that.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on October 12, 2012, 02:23:34 PM
Quote from: Itchy on October 12, 2012, 10:47:13 AM
Quote from: rodney trotter on October 12, 2012, 10:23:15 AM
Quote from: Itchy on October 12, 2012, 09:31:46 AM
Quote from: rodney trotter on October 11, 2012, 10:29:52 AM
To get the first game away again is a disaster, Antrim hammered Cavan in the final league game last year, I don't think they would hammer Cavan again but they are very hard to beat in Belfast. They will have to risk a few u21's in the league next year, no point sticking them in the deep end playing a Championship match without any league football.

Now its hardly a disaster playing Antrim away is it?

To get up we would need 4 wins minimum. We would have to win our home games against Fermanagh and Monaghan, neither easy. Maybe away to Antrim and Wicklow could be the other 2. While there are no easy games I wouldn't be afraid of any team in it. Id like to see what players are on the panel for next season.

Championship draw is not to bad either but would like to avoid the preliminary round as even if you win your next opponent gets a chance to have watched you in action.


Eh yeah, I would say it is a disaster playing Antrim away. .. To start off the league you would usually want  a home game first, They hammered Cavan in the last game of the league last year, they were without a few key players that day. Can't see Cavan being as bad again, but they will be confident of beating Cavan again. Obviously Cavan will be up for that game but its far from easy.

Cavan are very lucky to be not to be playing in Division 4 next year, take one game at a time.

Not trying to start a feud with ya mate but in the grand scheme of this group surely Antrim would not be rated that highly. In order of quality id have

Meath
Monaghan
Sligo
Roscommon
Antrim
Wicklow
Fermanagh

So what I am saying is a "disaster" would have been away to Meath or Monaghan to start with. I agree you want to get off to a winning start so hopefully we can do that.


Yeah, i never said anything about where i'd rate them. They are an improving side, beating Galway in the qualifiers. I think its the problem that maybe we think we are better than we are. Look at the past Championship defeats, Kildare hammered, the year before hammered at home by Donegal and Longford, lucky to stay up in the league last year too.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on October 12, 2012, 02:48:51 PM
When was the last time we beat Antrim? The 2008 preliminary round? They beat us well in 2009 in the Championship, 2010 in the League in Breffni after we had got off to a great start against Roscommon and they hammered us last year in the final game in Breffni in a challenge. Anyone who thinks we are at a level where we can afford to not rate Antrim is slightly deluded. They are a much better side than we are. As RT says they beat Galway in the Championship last year. Away to Antrim is every bit as tough as Monaghan or Meath. 
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on October 14, 2012, 12:25:20 PM
Hard luck Celtman and Cootehill. Good game of football again last night. Lackens second goal was a big turning point in the game. It took 15 minutes into the second half before Lacken scored,  that goal was the first score.. Cootehill had scored 5 unanswered points after being 3 behind at half time. Thought Lacken were a bit more composed in the forward play. Cootehill had some very poor wides in the first half and then in the second half when they were getting on top. Niall McKiernan was very impressive, moved into the ff linem in second half and he caused havoc.

Thought Gerard Argue done well on Connor Finnegan in both games, Finnegan was never really in the game that much. Enda Hessin was very good , scored 2 brillant points on the run. He stood out in both games along with John McCuthcheon. Josh Hayes was good but didn't stand out as a county player in IMO. Tom Hayes was lively and Stevie o Connor, but they didn't make enough of the chances that game their way. They are young players and have a good future. Finbar Reilly was very good, and showed his experience,
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on October 15, 2012, 01:08:42 AM
I see a thread over on Boards where a guy is claiming to have heard racial abuse directed towards a player during the Intermediate Final..
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on October 15, 2012, 02:35:13 PM
Quote from: Westside on October 15, 2012, 01:08:42 AM
I see a thread over on Boards where a guy is claiming to have heard racial abuse directed towards a player during the Intermediate Final..

Just seen that myself, but it turns out he didn't hear it his friend did but he did witness it happening.

Dont know what went on but i would hope that if it did happen the player invovled gets reported to the gardai.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on October 15, 2012, 02:54:36 PM
i wouldn't use boards.ie very much but i went on to see what was said about the whole situation.
The claim is that one of Cootehills talented young forwards was racially abused by a Lacken player.
The name of the Cootehill player is available over there,but at this stage it is probably better to leave names out of it until we hear more. Absolutely disgusting antics,if it is true.Rodney and Celt Man will know more.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on October 15, 2012, 03:00:20 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on October 15, 2012, 02:54:36 PM
i wouldn't use boards.ie very much but i went on to see what was said about the whole situation.
The claim is that one of Cootehills talented young forwards was racially abused by a Lacken player.
The name of the Cootehill player is available over there,but at this stage it is probably better to leave names out of it until we hear more. Absolutely disgusting antics,if it is true.Rodney and Celt Man will know more.

The lad that started the thread seem to be chopping and changing his story as he is quizzed on it.

I cant see any name there can you PM me please BHman.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on October 15, 2012, 07:40:53 PM
Sorry I'm only catching up now. Peter Donnelly is a brilliant addition to the U-21 set-up. In 2010 he gave us (Drumalee) a certain impetus just at the right time of the knock out stages of the championship and we never looked back that year. He demands an intensity and maximum effort from everybody and I found him a joy to train with. He won a Senior championship with his own club Coalisland the same year and is still playing AFAIK.

Congratulations to Lacken and Laragh at the weekend. 2 hard fought wins. Commiserations to Mountnugent and Cootehill. Cootehill were a joy to watch playing fast, running football and I'm sure they will be back if they can keep the bones of that team together.
Regarding the alleged racist abuse at the weekend. I have heard some bits and pieces and if it is true I hope that the perpetrator is severely punished. No room for anything like this in sport.
It is very sad that a reported isolated incident can take away from what should be a time of celebration out round Ballintemple.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on October 15, 2012, 11:41:56 PM
I knew nothing about the racist story till now. Its totally out of order if its true. Some incidents in the drawn game were uncalled for, but something like that is totally out of order, if its apparently true.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on October 16, 2012, 10:50:01 AM
Not defending whatever player was suppose to have said these racist remarks, But its 3 days since the game and I heard nothing mentioned about this claim, and if the player did report it to the ref, then why didn't the ref take action or whatever? Hearsay can lead to a lot of things,..
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on October 21, 2012, 03:28:25 PM
Well done to lacken winning their Ulster intermediate match today 0-7 to 1-3. Can Mullahoran create a shock now? Paul Brady not starting.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on October 21, 2012, 03:44:02 PM
Sounds like Mullahorn are well under the cosh here. 4 down after 15 minutes.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on October 21, 2012, 05:38:24 PM
Another embarrassing defeat in Ulster shows just how far off the required standard Cavan club football is.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on October 24, 2012, 11:32:32 AM
Clubs may be allowed too apply for senior status
24 October 2012
http://hoganstand.com/cavan/ArticleForm.aspx?ID=179776 (http://hoganstand.com/cavan/ArticleForm.aspx?ID=179776)
Quote

Relegated senior clubs may yet be allowed to compete in the top flight of the championship in 2013.

Seven clubs have been demoted to the intermediate grade in a restructuring of the championships, but most of these are thought to be unhappy about the move.

If clubs did not finish in the top eight of Division 1, they were automatically relegated, despite how far they progressed in the championship.

For example, the likes of Killygarry, who defeated Cavan Gaels in the quarterfinal and were narrow losers to eventual champions Mullahoran in the semi final will be in the intermediate grade next year, due to the league standing.

However, county board chairman Tom Reilly admits that there may be some 'tweaking' done to the new structure with teams set to amalgamate from the intermediate and junior grades to play in the senior championship, while others could force their way back into the top flight on appeal.

If Cavan County Board dont have the balls to implement their own development plan there is not much hope of things improving going forward.  I was not fully in favour of this idea from the start but once things have gone this far they should be implementing it. 

I will take a guess that a few clubs have got together and have decided that if they are not reinstated that they will put forward a motion to remove the current county board.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on October 24, 2012, 02:25:03 PM
Quote from: tommysmith on October 24, 2012, 11:32:32 AM
Clubs may be allowed too apply for senior status
24 October 2012
http://hoganstand.com/cavan/ArticleForm.aspx?ID=179776 (http://hoganstand.com/cavan/ArticleForm.aspx?ID=179776)
Quote

Relegated senior clubs may yet be allowed to compete in the top flight of the championship in 2013.

Seven clubs have been demoted to the intermediate grade in a restructuring of the championships, but most of these are thought to be unhappy about the move.

If clubs did not finish in the top eight of Division 1, they were automatically relegated, despite how far they progressed in the championship.

For example, the likes of Killygarry, who defeated Cavan Gaels in the quarterfinal and were narrow losers to eventual champions Mullahoran in the semi final will be in the intermediate grade next year, due to the league standing.

However, county board chairman Tom Reilly admits that there may be some 'tweaking' done to the new structure with teams set to amalgamate from the intermediate and junior grades to play in the senior championship, while others could force their way back into the top flight on appeal.

If Cavan County Board dont have the balls to implement their own development plan there is not much hope of things improving going forward.  I was not fully in favour of this idea from the start but once things have gone this far they should be implementing it. 

I will take a guess that a few clubs have got together and have decided that if they are not reinstated that they will put forward a motion to remove the current county board.

There has always been a process where a club could apply to play Senior Championship I believe. It just has to be ratified by the clubs . I'm not sure what Tom Reilly is referring to though regarding a club appealling their relegation.
Might we see a Division 1A and 1B next year?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on October 24, 2012, 02:54:52 PM
7 clubs got relegated so i would imagine they will all stay up or none of them will.

EDIT*  i think they may still be relegated in the league but allow play senior championship, he is as clear as muck.



Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on October 25, 2012, 05:45:11 PM
http://hoganstand.com/ArticleForm.aspx?ID=179856

Fair play to David Givney for being Selected for the Ulster team to play Donegal, and Gearoid Mckiernan also on the panel.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Pragmatist on October 27, 2012, 04:30:19 PM
I am now convinced that the naysayers have been right all along. For years I tried to promote the idea that we can improve players' decision-making on and off the ball, their movement off the ball, their positional sense, their timing of runs and their abilities to adapt to different game plans and attacking options. The truth is that for 90% of players we cannot!!
They bring with them their own inbuilt cerebral limitations for these skills and we can labour for as long as we want and convince ourselves we see glimmers of hope, but the fact is that they will revert to type more often than not.
Just get them as fit as possible, as well-conditioned as possible and as technically proficient as possible and forget the rest.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: PhilsJemmysField on October 30, 2012, 05:36:13 PM
ANybody see any of the U21 games round the weekend
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on October 30, 2012, 07:27:13 PM
Newtown had a comfortable win against Eire og, cootehill/drumgoon. Connor Finnegan was very good and scored 2-3, set up another goal. He was disapointing in the intermediate final's.. Stood out yesterday. Barry Doyle was very good. Tom Hayes had a brillant first half, scoring 1-2, but probaly didn't get enough support, Enda Hessin was decent but missed a lot. Got on a lot of ball and was always lively just his shooting let him down. he has lots of ability and should make the u21 panel next year.

Newtown started the second half well, goals from Finnegan and Jack Brady, made it look like it  was going to be a hammering. Eire Og dominated the last 15 minutes but the game was well over at that stage. Connor Moynagh came on at half time but had to off 10/15 minutes into the second half with a shoulder injury..
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on November 04, 2012, 03:59:27 PM
Took a trip to Bawnboy today for the U21 game between Shannonport and Mullahorn. It finished 3-15 to 2-7 in favour of the West Cavan side. Mullahorn hung on for long periods and SP only really pulled away in the final 10. Some good football played particularly by SP. Was disappointed with Killian and Michael Brady for Mullahorn, exerted very little influence on the game for two possible Senior County players. Enda O'Reilly was a constant threat for Mullahorn and played very well, his goal was top notch.
SP had a young side out but there were some very impressive performances. Shane Fitzpatrick at midfield got through a lot of work and got a few nice scores. Darragh McGovern kicked some wonderful points and looked dangerous throughout. PP O'Hara excelled on the 40. Benjamin Kelly had a great game at wing forward. Niall Walsh looks like the real deal. Ben Kiernan impressed once again, seems to always take the correct option.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on November 04, 2012, 10:39:45 PM
Quote from: Westside on November 04, 2012, 03:59:27 PM
Took a trip to Bawnboy today for the U21 game between Shannonport and Mullahorn. It finished 3-15 to 2-7 in favour of the West Cavan side. Mullahorn hung on for long periods and SP only really pulled away in the final 10. Some good football played particularly by SP. Was disappointed with Killian and Michael Brady for Mullahorn, exerted very little influence on the game for two possible Senior County players. Enda O'Reilly was a constant threat for Mullahorn and played very well, his goal was top notch.
SP had a young side out but there were some very impressive performances. Shane Fitzpatrick at midfield got through a lot of work and got a few nice scores. Darragh McGovern kicked some wonderful points and looked dangerous throughout. PP O'Hara excelled on the 40. Benjamin Kelly had a great game at wing forward. Niall Walsh looks like the real deal. Ben Kiernan impressed once again, seems to always take the correct option.


Kildallon must be part of that combination aswell if Darragh McGovern was playing? Lots of good forwards, McGovern, Walshe, O hare , Kiernan.

Did Swad not bother joining, or are they under the SP name like Kildallon. I think 3/4clubs together is alright at u21, as lots of players are lost from Minor level, but maybe its a bit much at minor level
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on November 04, 2012, 11:59:08 PM
Kildallan are part of it too, they were a late addition. So it's just the 3 clubs. I don't think Swad or Corlough have entered the U21s at all.

If we are relying on the likes of Killian and Michael Brady for the Cavan Senior team though then we are in big, big trouble.

I was beside a Shannon Gaels man at the game who told me that Nevin O'Donnell did his cruciate and is out for the year, also Jason McLoughlin is in college abroad for the year and won't be available, both big losses to our U21 campaign, McLoughlin in particular.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on November 05, 2012, 11:12:39 AM
Those 2 are a huge loss for the u21's next year, big loss for Shannon Gaels too.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on November 05, 2012, 06:53:02 PM
Best of luck to St Pats in the Rannafast semi final on Thursday.

Good luck to Mark Fegan and Ben Conaty.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on November 05, 2012, 07:28:46 PM
Quote from: Denn Forever on November 05, 2012, 06:53:02 PM
Best of luck to St Pats in the Rannafast semi final on Thursday.

Good luck to Mark Fegan and Ben Conaty.

Yeah best of luck to them. Few from Lacken on that panel. One of them is Paul Leddy, best young player ive seen under age in Lacken for a long time.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on November 05, 2012, 08:27:07 PM
Ryan Connolly from Drumlane the Captain on that team is supposed to be a fantastic footballer also.
I'm suprised David Brady of Ballyhaise (Mullahoran keeper Eamon's son) hasn't been listed on the probable team,seeing as he was a midfield starter last year in the Brock final. He must be injured.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on November 05, 2012, 08:39:17 PM
Ryan Connolly is a brilliant footballer. Big for his age but extremely fast and skillful.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on November 07, 2012, 05:12:12 PM
I see the Div 1 Senior League finals are down for Sunday.. Finally after starting the league in Feburay the league is almost complete. Ridiculous. Back again training in the first week again next Januray for possibly the same again.

Lacken are in a Junior league Semi, but haven't had a Junior league game since July... The last 2 matches  Lacken were due to play were given  as walkover results, teams gave Lacken the pts.

Other than a Junior championship defeat against Ballyhaise in August, there was no other games since than.. County board would want to cop on if they continue with these farcical fixture lists. No wonder lots of lads can't be bothered playing Gaa.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on November 07, 2012, 05:23:13 PM
Forgot to add, Lacken have no idea when the Junior League Semi is or who they are meant to be playing..
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on November 08, 2012, 02:06:50 PM
I see Brendan Fitzpatrick won't be available for Cavan this year as he has emigrated.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on November 08, 2012, 02:51:13 PM
Heard David Hyland from Gowna is in training with the panel at the minute. Loads of ability, never played under age for some reason. He is around 21/22
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Babe Ruth 47 on November 08, 2012, 07:08:49 PM
St Pats won their Ranafast semi-final this evening 2-15 to 0-7.  Great result, very promising bunch of lads.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on November 08, 2012, 07:18:13 PM
Quote from: Babe Ruth 47 on November 08, 2012, 07:08:49 PM
St Pats won their Ranafast semi-final this evening 2-15 to 0-7.  Great result, very promising bunch of lads.

Thats a big win, well done to them.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on November 09, 2012, 11:50:30 AM
Now we translate this so the senior team understands. Well done lads.

Colaisti Inis Eoghan bow out to superb St. Pats
09 November 2012

Danske Bank
Rannafast Cup Semi Final

St Patrick's Cavan 2.15
Colaisti Inis Eoghain 0.07

A goal and five points without reply in the opening quarter, set St Pat's Cavan on their way to a convincing victory over Colaisti Inis Eoghain in this Danske Bank Rannafast Cup semi final played at the MUSA in Cookstown on Thursday evening.

David Brady opened the scoring in the first minute when he carried the ball through from midfield to slot between the posts. Man of the match Ryan Connolly found the net a minute later after good work on the right by Ben Conaty. Further points by Darragh Gannon, Pierce Smith and two by Ryan Connolly gave the Breffni boys a commanding lead.

Inis Eoghain were slow to start and efforts from Christopher McLaughlin and Sean McHugh both dropped into the keepers hands, while John Campbell's long range effort drifted wide of the posts. They eventually got their opening score via a 45 from the smallest player on the pitch Mark Coyle. Christoher McLaughlin reduced the deficit with a point from play going into the second quarter but further points from frees by Ryan Connolly left the half time score St Pat's Cavan 1.08, Colaisti Inis Eoghain 0.02.

St pat's began the second half in much the same style as the first as Ben Conaty stretched their lead from play, while McHugh replied at the other end with an excellent free on the left. Mattie McKenna score from play again for the Cavan boys, before the superb Connolly added another point and then took advantage of a mistake in defence to add a second goal and effectively kill the game.

Inis Eoghain never gave up and enjoyed their best spell in the third quarter with points by John Campbell from play and two frees from Sean McHugh. St Pat's completed their scoring with points from Ben Conaty, Pierce Smith, Thomas Galligan and Tomas O Donoghue, while Sean McHugh tapped over another free for the Donegal side.

An excellent game of football played in a good sporting manner by both sides in front of a god sized crowd with the intensity and skill, especially from the Cavan side showing all that is good about Ulster Colleges football.

Inis Eoghain will be slightly disappointed in their own performance overall, but will be the first to admit St Pat's Cavan, with their clinical scoring ability are the best side they have met in three years competitive action and will now be strong favourites to go on and lift the Cup. St Pats know they have done the work and will be playing in their fourth consecutive final, it will take a mighty good side to beat them and they could well be serious contenders for McRory Cup honours over the next two years, with Cavan football being the big winner long term.

St Pat's Cavan: Brian Sheanan, Jason Rehill, Declan Lunney, Paul Sexton, Donal Monaghan, Cian McManus, James Veale, Thomas Galligan (0.01), David Brady (0.01), Pierce Smith (0.02 Capt), Ryan Connolly (2.06), Mattie McKenna (0.01), Darragh Gannon (0.01), Ben Conaty (0.02), Ronan O Reilly. Subs Mark Fegan, Feargal O Rourke, Conor O Rourke, Paul Leddy, Conor O Reilly, Tomas O Donoghue (0.01), Pauric Sweeney, Shane Moynagh, Dylan Donohue, Shane Fortune, David Wilson, Eamon Quinn, Glen Brady,

Colaisti Inis Eoghain: Jamie Barr, Peter Doherty, Aaron McCarron, Stephen O Donnell, Ultan Doherty, Darren Gallagher (Capt), Darragh Browne, Georgie Kelly, Tony McCleneghan, Christopher McLaughlin (0.01), Caolan Mailey, Sean McHugh (0.05), Mark Coyle, John Campbell (0.01), Joshua Lafferty. Subs Ryan McLaughlin, Aedan Stokes, Ryan Doherty, Tommy Byrne, Danny McCarron, Phil Brennan, Ronan Hartin.
Referee: Stephen McNamee
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on November 10, 2012, 11:32:13 AM
Anyone take a stab at naming the clubs that the St pats lads play with?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Babe Ruth 47 on November 10, 2012, 11:48:54 AM
Here is a stab, tis a start anyway. Apologies if there are errors.

St Pat's Cavan: 
Brian Sheanan,   Killygarry
Jason Rehill,   Baileboro
Declan Lunney,  Drumlane
Paul Sexton,   Cavan Gaels
Donal Monaghan, 
Cian McManus,   Teemore 
James Veale,        Cavan Gaels
Thomas Galligan (0.01),  Lacken 
David Brady (0.01),   Cavan Gaels
Pierce Smith (0.02 Capt), Crosserlough
Ryan Connolly (2.06),  Drumlane
Mattie McKenna (0.01), Killygarry
Daragh Gannon (0.01), Killygarry
Ben Conaty (0.02),  Denn
Ronan O Reilly. Ballinagh
Mark Fegan,   Denn
Feargal O Rourke, Laragh
Conor O Rourke, 
Paul Leddy,   Lacken
Conor O Reilly, 
Tomas O Donoghue (0.01),  Denn
Pauric Sweeney, 
Shane Moynagh, 
Dylan Donohue, 
Shane Fortune, Cavan Gaels 
David Wilson,   Lacken
Eamon Quinn, Drumalee
Glen Brady,  Mullahoran
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on November 10, 2012, 11:57:58 AM
Quote from: Babe Ruth 47 on November 10, 2012, 11:48:54 AM
Here is a stab, tis a start anyway. Apologies if there are errors.

St Pat's Cavan:
Brian Sheanan,   Killygarry
Jason Rehill,   Baileboro
Declan Lunney,  Drumlane
Paul Sexton,   Cavan Gaels
Donal Monaghan,
Cian McManus,   Teemore
James Veale,        Cavan Gaels
Thomas Galligan (0.01),  Lacken
David Brady (0.01),   Cavan Gaels
Pierce Smith (0.02 Capt), Crosserlough
Ryan Connolly (2.06),  Drumlane
Mattie McKenna (0.01), Killygarry
Daragh Gannon (0.01), Killygarry
Ben Conaty (0.02),  Denn
Ronan O Reilly. Ballinagh
Mark Fegan,   Denn
Feargal O Rourke, Laragh
Conor O Rourke,
Paul Leddy,   Lacken
Conor O Reilly,
Tomas O Donoghue (0.01),  Denn
Pauric Sweeney,
Shane Moynagh,
Dylan Donohue,
Shane Fortune, Cavan Gaels
David Wilson,   Lacken
Eamon Quinn, Drumalee
Glen Brady,  Mullahoran


Darren Monaghan - Drumlane, O Rourke is from Laragh, Pauric Sweeney - Killeshandra,
Moynagh- Lacken,Donohoe -Lacken,
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on November 10, 2012, 12:04:50 PM
Rehill is from Laragh not Baileboro. Not 100% about Connor O Reilly,
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cogito on November 10, 2012, 12:50:57 PM
There has definitely been a shift in the mentality of underage players from Cavan in recent years.

Three u21 Ulster Finals, an All-Ireland u21 Final, an Ulster Minor Final and now Pats competing at the coalface as well.

Hopefully we can keep churning out competitive teams.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Swadman on November 11, 2012, 01:24:31 PM
Rannafast Final on Friday next 16th in Emyvale at 7.00pm: St Patrick's Cavan v Omagh CBS . 4th consecutive Final for this Cavan team.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on November 11, 2012, 04:07:07 PM
Mullahoran beat the Gaels in the League Semi-Final there 1-9 to 1-7.  Think a few boys got an early shower too
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on November 11, 2012, 04:25:07 PM
Quote from: Celt_Man on November 11, 2012, 04:07:07 PM
Mullahoran beat the Gaels in the League Semi-Final there 1-9 to 1-7.  Think a few boys got an early shower too

Yeah 4 lads went. 2 from each club. St joes beat Newtown 1-15 to 10pts, deserved the win. Playing Cavan Gaels in the Semi.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Swadman on November 13, 2012, 06:20:37 PM
Rumors of a players revolt in Templeport. Management had one year done of a two year stint but got gate. A bit rough as they got to within a point of Laragh in the Junior C/ship and are on a good run in Minor. Player power can be like hurricane Sandy sometimes.
   
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on November 13, 2012, 07:48:02 PM
Must have Joe Kernan lined up..
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on November 13, 2012, 08:43:20 PM
Quote from: Swadman on November 13, 2012, 06:20:37 PM
Rumors of a players revolt in Templeport. Management had one year done of a two year stint but got gate. A bit rough as they got to within a point of Laragh in the Junior C/ship and are on a good run in Minor. Player power can be like hurricane Sandy sometimes.


Don't think it's a players revolt. The last management duo weren't exactly singing of the same hymn sheet and it was a case where they wanted 1 of the two to take control properly as it was clear to everyone that it wasn't working. At the same time the management who brought the Minors through winning every age group since U12 came into the picture.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on November 15, 2012, 12:40:56 PM
Quote from: Swadman on November 11, 2012, 01:24:31 PM
Rannafast Final on Friday next 16th in Emyvale at 7.00pm: St Patrick's Cavan v Omagh CBS . 4th consecutive Final for this Cavan team.

It'll be tough but best of luck to Pats on Friday.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on November 15, 2012, 04:36:35 PM
Jamie Clarke will be away travelling for the 2013 season. Collective sigh of relief from the Cavan defence.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on November 15, 2012, 04:57:40 PM
They are limited enough in attack without Clarke, few good forwards like Stefan Forker,Charlie Vernon half forward/midfelder, Wouldn't be as good as Clarke, not many are really.

Cross had very little players on the Armagh team this year, Jamie Clarke and Aaron Kernan were the only 2 that started in the championship. Can't see it being the same next year, under a different manager.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cogito on November 15, 2012, 09:58:20 PM
He tweeted that he hasn't decided anything and that he never talked to the paper that ran the story.

"I have not spoke to any press regarding my situation with Armagh and don't intend to until after the Ulster Club campaign with Cross." - https://twitter.com/Jamie_Clarke10
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Babe Ruth 47 on November 16, 2012, 08:52:43 PM
St Pats won the Ranafast this evening, beating Omagh by 6 points. 4-10 to 2-10 . Great game of football, they were down by 5, half way through the second half. A great goal with 10 minutes to go by, I think, Ben Conaty turned the game. Some wonderful examples of long range point taking and fielding.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on November 17, 2012, 11:19:43 AM
 ;D 8) ;D ;D

Now that makes my day.  I hope that we (Denn) don't expect Ben Conaty to be our saviour for the next 20 years.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on November 17, 2012, 11:27:35 AM
If you go to ulster colleges thread on the gaa discussion section there are some videos. Some great scores. Well done St Pats.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on November 17, 2012, 02:31:29 PM
Quote from: Any craic on November 17, 2012, 12:33:18 AM
Fabulous Rannafast Cup Final tonight... see the late drama here, with some great scores and an even better celebration... St Pats Cavan coming from 5 down to win by 6 against Omagh CBS,,, http://tinyurl.com/ctrc6j4 (http://tinyurl.com/ctrc6j4)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on November 17, 2012, 02:56:23 PM
The Midfield are big lads.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wsguBknbYyk&feature=plcp&noredirect=1

Who is in charge of the team?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on November 17, 2012, 03:05:11 PM
Quote from: Denn Forever on November 17, 2012, 02:56:23 PM
The Midfield are big lads.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wsguBknbYyk&feature=plcp&noredirect=1

Who is in charge of the team?


Finbar O Reilly, Andy McGovern and Gerry Gunn
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on November 18, 2012, 12:06:26 AM
Superb stuff. Great to see St Pats back as a force to be reckoned with. Delighted for Finbar and Andy who have done great work with the lads but also Gerry Gunn. He came into the school during my time and was always an absolute gentleman and has a great way with young lads. And who could forget Fr. Kevin from Mullahoran. I'm still laughing at that run across the field. Brilliant.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on November 21, 2012, 02:24:36 PM
Bears repeated viewing.  Interview with Fr. Kevin.

Pardon my ignorance but do Pats have a team in the McRory?

http://www.ulstercollegesgaa.org/general/fr-kevin-fay-jim-mcdonnell-danske-bank-rannafast-cup-final-interviews-video/
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on November 21, 2012, 02:35:41 PM
They play in the B competition which is called the Mclarnon Cup. They are more competitive in the Mlarnon cup and are in the quarter final's. They have been playing mclarnon the last few years, couldn't compete at McRory level. Hence why they played in  the Leinster league and championship for a few years 04/06.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on November 22, 2012, 08:08:01 PM
Killian Brady got Senior Player of the Year, John McCutcheon got Intermediate, Patrick Rudden got Junior

Just announced
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on November 22, 2012, 08:39:28 PM
Quote from: Celt_Man on November 22, 2012, 08:08:01 PM
Killian Brady got Senior Player of the Year, John McCutcheon got Intermediate, Patrick Rudden got Junior

Just announced

Fair play to them, Killian Brady was very solid in the Senior Championship. McCutheon was class for Cootehill, especially the drawn game against Lacken, Best individual display I saw this year from any player. I only saw Paddy Rudden once this year and that was in the Final, he looked decent, good from the free's. Only 21 like Killian Brady.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on November 23, 2012, 03:56:35 PM
Now we need to identify and harness what ever is in the air that is improving football in Cavan.

Ballyhaise Agricultural College now in a final.

Ag. Colleges semi-final: Ballyhaise into final
23 November 2012

Ballyhaise 0-14
Pallaskenary 1-5

Following a close fought first half when Pallaskenary led 1-3 to 0-5, Ballyhaise Agricultural College, managed by Moynalvey man Willie Byrne, put in a strong second half display to win out by six points in this All-Ireland Agricultural Colleges semi-final at the well appointed Walsh Island GAA Pitch in Co Offaly.

Barry Reilly was a constant threat and with a good supply of ball from the Monaghan pairing of Craig Lanauze and Darren Hughes at midfield Pallaskenary had no answer to the Ballyhaise team who are looking for a two in a row of titles having won in 2011.

Ballyhaise now play Kildalton in the Final having seen off Gurteen, and Mountbellew in earlier Rounds.

Ballyhaise - David McEananey (Corduff, Monaghan), David O'Halloran (Drumconrath, Meath), Paul Flynn (Clann Mhuire, Dublin), Paddy Markey (Drumhowan, Monaghan); Breen Smith (Kilinkere, Cavan), Pat Carolan (Knockbride, Cavan), Thomas McCann (Cooley Kickhams, Louth); Craig Lanauze 0-1 (Latton, Monaghan), Darren Hughes 0-3 (Scotstown, Monaghan); David White 0-1 (Clann Mhuire Dublin), Ronan McGowan (St Barrys Roscommon), Ronan Breslin (St Ultans Meath); Sean Lynch 0-1 (Moynalty Meath), Barry Reilly 0-6 (Kingscourt Stars Cavan), Paul McCarron 0-1 (Emyvale Monaghan).

Subs; James Heaney 0-1 (Simonstown Gaels, Meath), Tommy Keenan (Cooley Kickhams, Louth), Cathal McCabe (Rathkenny, Meath), Jack Woods (St Colmcilles, Meath)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on November 23, 2012, 04:04:01 PM
Quote from: Denn Forever on November 23, 2012, 03:56:35 PM
Now we need to identify and harness what ever is in the air that is improving football in Cavan.

Ballyhaise Agricultural College now in a final.

Ag. Colleges semi-final: Ballyhaise into final
23 November 2012

Ballyhaise 0-14
Pallaskenary 1-5

Following a close fought first half when Pallaskenary led 1-3 to 0-5, Ballyhaise Agricultural College, managed by Moynalvey man Willie Byrne, put in a strong second half display to win out by six points in this All-Ireland Agricultural Colleges semi-final at the well appointed Walsh Island GAA Pitch in Co Offaly.

Barry Reilly was a constant threat and with a good supply of ball from the Monaghan pairing of Craig Lanauze and Darren Hughes at midfield Pallaskenary had no answer to the Ballyhaise team who are looking for a two in a row of titles having won in 2011.

Ballyhaise now play Kildalton in the Final having seen off Gurteen, and Mountbellew in earlier Rounds.

Ballyhaise - David McEananey (Corduff, Monaghan), David O'Halloran (Drumconrath, Meath), Paul Flynn (Clann Mhuire, Dublin), Paddy Markey (Drumhowan, Monaghan); Breen Smith (Kilinkere, Cavan), Pat Carolan (Knockbride, Cavan), Thomas McCann (Cooley Kickhams, Louth); Craig Lanauze 0-1 (Latton, Monaghan), Darren Hughes 0-3 (Scotstown, Monaghan); David White 0-1 (Clann Mhuire Dublin), Ronan McGowan (St Barrys Roscommon), Ronan Breslin (St Ultans Meath); Sean Lynch 0-1 (Moynalty Meath), Barry Reilly 0-6 (Kingscourt Stars Cavan), Paul McCarron 0-1 (Emyvale Monaghan).

Subs; James Heaney 0-1 (Simonstown Gaels, Meath), Tommy Keenan (Cooley Kickhams, Louth), Cathal McCabe (Rathkenny, Meath), Jack Woods (St Colmcilles, Meath)

Craig Lanuaze is from Lacken Cavan. Darren Hughes was playing Sigerson with UUJ the last few years, bit of a culture shock for him to playing with Ballyhaise Ag now. Serious footballer.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on November 23, 2012, 07:45:57 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on November 23, 2012, 04:04:01 PM
Quote from: Denn Forever on November 23, 2012, 03:56:35 PM
Now we need to identify and harness what ever is in the air that is improving football in Cavan.

Ballyhaise Agricultural College now in a final.

Ag. Colleges semi-final: Ballyhaise into final
23 November 2012

Ballyhaise 0-14
Pallaskenary 1-5

Following a close fought first half when Pallaskenary led 1-3 to 0-5, Ballyhaise Agricultural College, managed by Moynalvey man Willie Byrne, put in a strong second half display to win out by six points in this All-Ireland Agricultural Colleges semi-final at the well appointed Walsh Island GAA Pitch in Co Offaly.

Barry Reilly was a constant threat and with a good supply of ball from the Monaghan pairing of Craig Lanauze and Darren Hughes at midfield Pallaskenary had no answer to the Ballyhaise team who are looking for a two in a row of titles having won in 2011.

Ballyhaise now play Kildalton in the Final having seen off Gurteen, and Mountbellew in earlier Rounds.

Ballyhaise - David McEananey (Corduff, Monaghan), David O'Halloran (Drumconrath, Meath), Paul Flynn (Clann Mhuire, Dublin), Paddy Markey (Drumhowan, Monaghan); Breen Smith (Kilinkere, Cavan), Pat Carolan (Knockbride, Cavan), Thomas McCann (Cooley Kickhams, Louth); Craig Lanauze 0-1 (Latton, Monaghan), Darren Hughes 0-3 (Scotstown, Monaghan); David White 0-1 (Clann Mhuire Dublin), Ronan McGowan (St Barrys Roscommon), Ronan Breslin (St Ultans Meath); Sean Lynch 0-1 (Moynalty Meath), Barry Reilly 0-6 (Kingscourt Stars Cavan), Paul McCarron 0-1 (Emyvale Monaghan).

Subs; James Heaney 0-1 (Simonstown Gaels, Meath), Tommy Keenan (Cooley Kickhams, Louth), Cathal McCabe (Rathkenny, Meath), Jack Woods (St Colmcilles, Meath)

Craig Lanuaze is from Lacken Cavan. Darren Hughes was playing Sigerson with UUJ the last few years, bit of a culture shock for him to playing with Ballyhaise Ag now. Serious footballer.

Come on now Rodney, its the glamour of playing in Ballyhaise.
Its not called the Barcelona of Cavan for nothing now  8)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on November 23, 2012, 08:04:10 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on November 23, 2012, 07:45:57 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on November 23, 2012, 04:04:01 PM
Quote from: Denn Forever on November 23, 2012, 03:56:35 PM
Now we need to identify and harness what ever is in the air that is improving football in Cavan.

Ballyhaise Agricultural College now in a final.

Ag. Colleges semi-final: Ballyhaise into final
23 November 2012

Ballyhaise 0-14
Pallaskenary 1-5

Following a close fought first half when Pallaskenary led 1-3 to 0-5, Ballyhaise Agricultural College, managed by Moynalvey man Willie Byrne, put in a strong second half display to win out by six points in this All-Ireland Agricultural Colleges semi-final at the well appointed Walsh Island GAA Pitch in Co Offaly.

Barry Reilly was a constant threat and with a good supply of ball from the Monaghan pairing of Craig Lanauze and Darren Hughes at midfield Pallaskenary had no answer to the Ballyhaise team who are looking for a two in a row of titles having won in 2011.

Ballyhaise now play Kildalton in the Final having seen off Gurteen, and Mountbellew in earlier Rounds.

Ballyhaise - David McEananey (Corduff, Monaghan), David O'Halloran (Drumconrath, Meath), Paul Flynn (Clann Mhuire, Dublin), Paddy Markey (Drumhowan, Monaghan); Breen Smith (Kilinkere, Cavan), Pat Carolan (Knockbride, Cavan), Thomas McCann (Cooley Kickhams, Louth); Craig Lanauze 0-1 (Latton, Monaghan), Darren Hughes 0-3 (Scotstown, Monaghan); David White 0-1 (Clann Mhuire Dublin), Ronan McGowan (St Barrys Roscommon), Ronan Breslin (St Ultans Meath); Sean Lynch 0-1 (Moynalty Meath), Barry Reilly 0-6 (Kingscourt Stars Cavan), Paul McCarron 0-1 (Emyvale Monaghan).

Subs; James Heaney 0-1 (Simonstown Gaels, Meath), Tommy Keenan (Cooley Kickhams, Louth), Cathal McCabe (Rathkenny, Meath), Jack Woods (St Colmcilles, Meath)

Craig Lanuaze is from Lacken Cavan. Darren Hughes was playing Sigerson with UUJ the last few years, bit of a culture shock for him to playing with Ballyhaise Ag now. Serious footballer.

Come on now Rodney, its the glamour of playing in Ballyhaise.
Its not called the Barcelona or Cavan for nothing now  8)

Ha true, massive pitch like the Nou Camp.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: scoopmine on November 26, 2012, 11:20:51 PM
How did Darren Hughes end up playing at the Ballyhaise?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on November 27, 2012, 01:30:45 AM
Quote from: scoopmine on November 26, 2012, 11:20:51 PM
How did Darren Hughes end up playing at the Ballyhaise?

I'm guessing he is doing a course in Agriculture/Farming or some sort.
If only he could be "persuaded" to stay around the area and play for Ballyhaise and Cavan, we would be laughing!!!!!!
Its how the great Enda McGowan came to play with us afterall.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on November 27, 2012, 12:44:43 PM
Charges against the Lacken player dropped due to lack of evidence, pity that wasn't the case before they had it in every paper in the country... talking shite about the player who was suppose to have said the remarks.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: PhilsJemmysField on November 28, 2012, 03:40:10 PM
Racism in any form is serious stuff and our disciplinary proceedings in Cavan sometimes have a nasty habit of brushing shit under Carpets. Not saying that this happened but can we be 100% sure. The GAA has to lead the way in 100% getting rid of this shit.At the moment it may only be a caution and is very unclear what the punishment is for Race issues. This needs to be clarified. In Killinkere we had a nasty incident where somebody said something horrible to a young lad from an opposing team which ended up in that person walking away from CLub at an underage meeting where they felt it was Ok to throw shit . Maybe not right either but if people cannot allow some young lad of colour to kick a ball without some form of a snide remark it has to be a disgrace
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on November 28, 2012, 05:31:15 PM
Obviously racism is a big thing, so is somebody abusing a club player about having a family member having disabilities or a family member being ill personal stuff like that too. Heard that stuff before too, but the player who it was directed too let it moved on..
Because its racism is a whole big thing and only it should count. Gaa are trying to copy the premier league with the whole suarez , john terry etc.

I don't know if that player from killinere was looked at on video evidence, they looked cleary at the incident of the Lacken player and came up with nothing. Clattenburg the ref was getting dogs abuse and it was later revealed he never said any racist remarks.

Very dangerous thing to accuse somebody of something without full evidence.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on November 28, 2012, 10:10:22 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on November 27, 2012, 12:44:43 PM
Charges against the Lacken player dropped due to lack of evidence, pity that wasn't the case before they had it in every paper in the country... talking shite about the player who was suppose to have said the remarks.

Can you be sure he didnt say what he accused off saying?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on November 28, 2012, 11:21:01 PM
Quote from: tommysmith on November 28, 2012, 10:10:22 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on November 27, 2012, 12:44:43 PM
Charges against the Lacken player dropped due to lack of evidence, pity that wasn't the case before they had it in every paper in the country... talking shite about the player who was suppose to have said the remarks.

Can you be sure he didnt say what he accused off saying?

Ffs I can't lipread. I heard nothing about it end of - the Co board saw nothing on video. Maybe give him a dial and ask him yourself tommy.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on November 28, 2012, 11:24:38 PM
While your at it phone Joe Duffy and then the Guards, you wanted them involved I recall. :P
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on November 29, 2012, 12:23:27 AM
Quote from: rodney trotter on November 28, 2012, 05:31:15 PM
Obviously racism is a big thing, so is somebody abusing a club player about having a family member having disabilities or a family member being ill personal stuff like that too. Heard that stuff before too, but the player who it was directed too let it moved on..
Because its racism is a whole big thing and only it should count. Gaa are trying to copy the premier league with the whole suarez , john terry etc.
I don't know if that player from killinere was looked at on video evidence, they looked cleary at the incident of the Lacken player and came up with nothing. Clattenburg the ref was getting dogs abuse and it was later revealed he never said any racist remarks.

Very dangerous thing to accuse somebody of something without full evidence.

I don't get what you mean here Rodney? How are the GAA trying to copy the Premier League?

If the Cootehill player made a complaint and Cootehill followed it up it would obviously have to be fully investigated. However  it has to be said that the use of video evidence is a waste of time. It's not like Sky cameras where they have up close shots. It basically was one players word (and maybe a few witnesses) against another players word.

We should always presume innocence until proven otherwise and I don't know the details of this case but I know if I was the Lacken player and I was innocent I wouldn't be a happy bunny to put it mildly.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on November 29, 2012, 10:45:35 AM
Quote from: boojangles on November 29, 2012, 12:23:27 AM
Quote from: rodney trotter on November 28, 2012, 05:31:15 PM
Obviously racism is a big thing, so is somebody abusing a club player about having a family member having disabilities or a family member being ill personal stuff like that too. Heard that stuff before too, but the player who it was directed too let it moved on..
Because its racism is a whole big thing and only it should count. Gaa are trying to copy the premier league with the whole suarez , john terry etc.
I don't know if that player from killinere was looked at on video evidence, they looked cleary at the incident of the Lacken player and came up with nothing. Clattenburg the ref was getting dogs abuse and it was later revealed he never said any racist remarks.

Very dangerous thing to accuse somebody of something without full evidence.

I don't get what you mean here Rodney? How are the GAA trying to copy the Premier League?

If the Cootehill player made a complaint and Cootehill followed it up it would obviously have to be fully investigated. However  it has to be said that the use of video evidence is a waste of time. It's not like Sky cameras where they have up close shots. It basically was one players word (and maybe a few witnesses) against another players word.

We should always presume innocence until proven otherwise and I don't know the details of this case but I know if I was the Lacken player and I was innocent I wouldn't be a happy bunny to put it mildly.


What I mean is, maybe they focus too much on and incident like Racism too much, not saying its acceptable and let other snide remarks which IMO opinion are as bad or worse thaN racsim , personal insults about Family.

Why should it be ok for somebody to insult a player about a players family, But as soon as its Racism fook everything else it should be loooked at. A persons skin colour will always get a bigger issue but it shouldn't be that way, should be a level playing field.

And Imo it wasn't right that this incident was in the National papers without full evidence. A disgrace in my opinion.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on November 29, 2012, 11:25:35 AM
Quote from: rodney trotter on November 29, 2012, 10:45:35 AM
Quote from: boojangles on November 29, 2012, 12:23:27 AM
Quote from: rodney trotter on November 28, 2012, 05:31:15 PM
Obviously racism is a big thing, so is somebody abusing a club player about having a family member having disabilities or a family member being ill personal stuff like that too. Heard that stuff before too, but the player who it was directed too let it moved on..
Because its racism is a whole big thing and only it should count. Gaa are trying to copy the premier league with the whole suarez , john terry etc.
I don't know if that player from killinere was looked at on video evidence, they looked cleary at the incident of the Lacken player and came up with nothing. Clattenburg the ref was getting dogs abuse and it was later revealed he never said any racist remarks.

Very dangerous thing to accuse somebody of something without full evidence.

I don't get what you mean here Rodney? How are the GAA trying to copy the Premier League?

If the Cootehill player made a complaint and Cootehill followed it up it would obviously have to be fully investigated. However  it has to be said that the use of video evidence is a waste of time. It's not like Sky cameras where they have up close shots. It basically was one players word (and maybe a few witnesses) against another players word.

We should always presume innocence until proven otherwise and I don't know the details of this case but I know if I was the Lacken player and I was innocent I wouldn't be a happy bunny to put it mildly.


What I mean is, maybe they focus too much on and incident like Racism too much, not saying its acceptable and let other snide remarks which IMO opinion are as bad or worse thaN racsim , personal insults about Family.

Why should it be ok for somebody to insult a player about a players family, But as soon as its Racism fook everything else it should be loooked at. A persons skin colour will always get a bigger issue but it shouldn't be that way, should be a level playing field.

And Imo it wasn't right that this incident was in the National papers without full evidence. A disgrace in my opinion.

You do know that there are laws against rasicm in this country?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on November 29, 2012, 11:49:58 AM
Quote from: rodney trotter on November 29, 2012, 11:34:01 AM
Yeah Tommy there is, there is a thing called having concrete evidence too ya know..
Not one persons word against another.

I was not talking about any incident in general i just find the way you making little of racism as evident in this statement quiet strange.

Quote
What I mean is, maybe they focus too much on and incident like Racism too much, not saying its acceptable and let other snide remarks which IMO opinion are as bad or worse thaN racsim , personal insults about Family.

Why should it be ok for somebody to insult a player about a players family, But as soon as its Racism fook everything else it should be loooked at. A persons skin colour will always get a bigger issue but it shouldn't be that way, should be a level playing field.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on November 29, 2012, 01:01:39 PM
I explained that I thought they didn't focus on other verbal insults if you read it fully.
Maybe saying they focus on racism too much might have sounded like I was dismissing Racism well no I wasn't. Of course its a big thing. Bigger going at the minute.

A level playing field between other personal verbals is what i was talking about...
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on November 29, 2012, 01:11:19 PM
Tricky one all right and I can see both sides of the argument. Racism on a GAA pitch or anywhere else for that matter is unacceptable, just as it is unacceptable that false/unfounded accusations of racism against somebody are raised. There wasn't much to be racist about when I was kicking a ball up that way but the odd bit of "sectarian banter" did creep in occasionally in the heat of the moment. Probably resulted in a few lads being lost to the game or not pursuing it in the first place. Is that sort of shite governed by law at this stage or is it still a case of suck it up and get on with it?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on November 29, 2012, 01:16:43 PM
Nobody is talking about this on Hoganstand now. Not dismissing racism before Tommy you get the knife out again, I only brought the thing back up the other day as it was brought up here first by Westside. I knew nothing about it until then. When I heard there was no clear evidence thats why i mentioned it.

Mayeb Celt man or somebody else can have their say on it I'm sure they have read it all at this stage. There is no conrete evidence so its done and dusted in my opinion.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on November 29, 2012, 02:55:45 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on November 29, 2012, 01:16:43 PM

Mayeb Celt man or somebody else can have their say on it I'm sure they have read it all at this stage. There is no conrete evidence so its done and dusted in my opinion.

Just because there is no concrete evidence does not mean it did not take place. (or did take place)

In a incident like this it is one or two persons word against another.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on November 29, 2012, 03:14:43 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on November 29, 2012, 03:00:11 PM
Quote from: tommysmith on November 29, 2012, 02:55:45 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on November 29, 2012, 01:16:43 PM

Mayeb Celt man or somebody else can have their say on it I'm sure they have read it all at this stage. There is no conrete evidence so its done and dusted in my opinion.

Just because there is no concrete evidence does not mean it did not take place. (or did take place)

In a incident like this it is one or two persons word against another.

Well obviously...

Yeah so that makes it ok then ?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on November 29, 2012, 03:18:50 PM
Wtf are you getting at??

Where did i say it was acceptable. Who is to say the Cootehill was talking tripe? You don't Tommy and I don't know what was said.. Its his word against the Laken player.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on November 29, 2012, 03:29:25 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on November 29, 2012, 03:18:50 PM
Wtf are you getting at??

Where did i say it was acceptable. Who is to say the Cootehill was talking tripe? You don't Tommy and I don't know what was said.. Its his word against the Laken player.

I dont or never have said i knew what was said and dont know either party involved, im just trying to get you to open you're eyes and look at it from the other side.


QuoteThere is no conrete evidence so its done and dusted in my opinion.
Is this the best way to try and stop these incidents from taking place or  happening again?

QuoteA persons skin colour will always get a bigger issue but it shouldn't be that way
Why not its a offence to abuse someone because of there skin colour?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on November 29, 2012, 03:36:39 PM
Dose,
Quote from: tommysmith on November 29, 2012, 03:29:25 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on November 29, 2012, 03:18:50 PM
Wtf are you getting at??

Where did i say it was acceptable. Who is to say the Cootehill was talking tripe? You don't Tommy and I don't know what was said.. Its his word against the Laken player.

I dont or never have said i knew what was said and dont know either party involved, im just trying to get you to open you're eyes and look at it from the other side.

Your boring me now Tommy, thats the one answered

QuoteThere is no conrete evidence so its done and dusted in my opinion.
Is this the best way to try and stop these incidents from taking place or  happening again?

Eh, where did i say that Einstein, Perhaps if more people had heard it or the ref even
QuoteA persons skin colour will always get a bigger issue but it shouldn't be that way

Why not its a offence to abuse someone because of there skin colour?
read the full line ffs will you, i said it shouldn't be just colour of skin all types of verbals.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on November 29, 2012, 03:43:35 PM
QuoteEh, where did i say that Einstein, Perhaps if more people had heard it or the ref even

Quote from: rodney trotter on November 29, 2012, 01:16:43 PM

Mayeb Celt man or somebody else can have their say on it I'm sure they have read it all at this stage. There is no conrete evidence so its done and dusted in my opinion.
[/b]

The date and time of when you said the above.

I dont think you understand racism and dont know how serious it is and how it wont help the GAA if it comes into our games and is not properly dealt with.


Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on November 29, 2012, 03:47:30 PM
Good man Tommy. Than
Quote from: rodney trotter on November 29, 2012, 03:36:39 PM
Dose,
Quote from: tommysmith on November 29, 2012, 03:29:25 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on November 29, 2012, 03:18:50 PM
Wtf are you getting at??

Where did i say it was acceptable. Who is to say the Cootehill was talking tripe? You don't Tommy and I don't know what was said.. Its his word against the Laken player.

I dont or never have said i knew what was said and dont know either party involved, im just trying to get you to open you're eyes and look at it from the other side.

Your boring me now Tommy, thats the one answered

There is no conrete evidence so its done and dusted in my opinion.
Is this the best way to try and stop these incidents from taking place or  happening again?[/b]

Eh, where did i say that Einstein, Perhaps if more people had heard it or the ref even
QuoteA persons skin colour will always get a bigger issue but it shouldn't be that way

Why not its a offence to abuse someone because of there skin colour?
read the full line ffs will you, i said it shouldn't be just colour of skin all types of verbals.
[/quote]

I was replying to that part, yet again you pick me up wrong.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on November 29, 2012, 03:49:56 PM
Off outside, done being a internet troll for the day. :)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on November 29, 2012, 03:54:33 PM
Im sorry but i have to log off this now, the systems are back up here.

It was nice trying to get through to you maybe next time although i dont have much time as i used to to come online.

You on the other hand seem to have plenty of free time as over the last month as you have nearly every second post on this thread so maybe you should use a bit of that time to looking into how we can tackle racism in GAA and life in general.

xxxx



Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on November 29, 2012, 06:56:11 PM
Ciao for now Thomas. Maybe next time you will take the time to read a full paragraph before you start copying and pasting rubbish.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on December 01, 2012, 02:26:04 PM
There was a strong Cavan connection as Dublin IT were crowed the Higher Education Division One League champions on Thursday last when they overcame St. Mary's, Belfast on a scoreline of 1-16 to 1-15 after extra-time.

In an entertaining game played out on a cold winter's night in Mayobridge Co. Down the Dublin college had strong Cavan representation who all played a vital part in a stirring fightback from DIT.

Trailing by five points at one stage in the second half, DIT looked like they would be heading back down the M1 motorway empty handed and bitterly disappointed with their display against an extremely well organised St. Mary's outfit under the guidance of renowned trainer Paddy Tally, who enjoyed success as a trainer under Mickey Harte in Tyrone.

However the Killygarry duo of Martin Reilly and Ross Sheridan, who started at wing-forward and wing-back respectively, stepped up to the plate to kick vital scores for their team over the course of the hour with Reilly in particular catching the eye with a sublime left-footed effort under pressure out on the right wing.

St Mary's who had been reduced to 14 men midway through the second half were under severe pressure late on and DIT heavily dominated proceedings through the midfield pairing of Mayo's Aidan O'Shea and Mountnugent and Cavan star David Givney.

A goal approaching injury-time was enough to force the game into extra-time and Martin Reilly and Givney both chipped in with points, the latter of the two notching the all important winner in the closing stages, as DIT emerged as league champions for the second time in three years.

Shercock's Brian Sankey, Castlerahan's Stephen Cooney and Lavey's Conor Martin were unused substitutes on the night, while Bailieborough Shamrocks Alan O'Mara is a selector with the team.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on December 02, 2012, 02:55:38 PM
Well boys (and girls), its december so surely time to start thinking about next year for the county team.

U21's

Rd 1 Home to Monaghan
Semi - Cavan/Monaghan vrs armagh/Fermanagh/Down

Might not be as great a draw as it looked, Monaghan made Ulster minor last year but I'm hopefull we can make the semi and no reason why the final would not be possible.


Minors

I'll be honest and say I don't have a clue how good we are or how good armagh are but sure a home game to start is good. Would be great to see the lads do something at this level again after the terrible show last year.

Seniors

I'm confident the right man is in charge now. I'm also confident we can make a strong spine of a team with the likes of Killian Clarke, McCutcheon, Givney, McKiernan, Keating, Barry Reilly etc. Do we have any older player though with quality and experience in their late 20's to help them - I don't think so. I will take a stab at a team and see what ye think...

- New Keeper - I'm not sure who but the age of being a good shot stopper and hammering your kicks up the field is long gone and for me James Reillys time is gone. You need to be smart with the kicks, you need to read the game in front of you.
- McLoughlin (is he available?)
- Killian Clarke
- Damien Reilly

- Alan Clarke
- McCutcheon
- McKeever

- Givney
- Ciaran Galligan

- Barry Reilly
- G McKiernan
- Jack Brady

- Niall McDermott
- Keating
- K Tierney

Sub bench would then consist of the likes of Declan McKiernan, Joe Dillon, Oisin Minagh, Niall Murray, Niall Smith etc
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on December 02, 2012, 07:08:00 PM
Early indications as to who is on the Cavan Panel in the Fitzsimon Cup. Lost by a goal to Meath.

A O'Mara J Hayes P Carroll N O'Reilly P O'Reilly J McEnroe D Reilly G McKiernan T Corr C Mackey M Reilly M McKeever K Meehan D Hyland N McDermott

Keating, Alan Clarke, Oisin O'Connel, Kevin Tierney all featured too. Can only pray that Carroll isn't being considered as a realistic option for fullback for the coming year. Good to see Mackey and Alan Clarke in there though, two lads that have something to offer for certain.



Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on December 02, 2012, 09:09:16 PM
Quote from: Itchy on December 02, 2012, 02:55:38 PM
Well boys (and girls), its december so surely time to start thinking about next year for the county team.

U21's

Rd 1 Home to Monaghan
Semi - Cavan/Monaghan vrs armagh/Fermanagh/Down

Might not be as great a draw as it looked, Monaghan made Ulster minor last year but I'm hopefull we can make the semi and no reason why the final would not be possible.


Minors

I'll be honest and say I don't have a clue how good we are or how good armagh are but sure a home game to start is good. Would be great to see the lads do something at this level again after the terrible show last year.

Seniors

I'm confident the right man is in charge now. I'm also confident we can make a strong spine of a team with the likes of Killian Clarke, McCutcheon, Givney, McKiernan, Keating, Barry Reilly etc. Do we have any older player though with quality and experience in their late 20's to help them - I don't think so. I will take a stab at a team and see what ye think...

- New Keeper - I'm not sure who but the age of being a good shot stopper and hammering your kicks up the field is long gone and for me James Reillys time is gone. You need to be smart with the kicks, you need to read the game in front of you.
- McLoughlin (is he available?)
- Killian Clarke
- Damien Reilly

- Alan Clarke
- McCutcheon
- McKeever

- Givney
- Ciaran Galligan

- Barry Reilly
- G McKiernan
- Jack Brady

- Niall McDermott
- Keating
- K Tierney

Sub bench would then consist of the likes of Declan McKiernan, Joe Dillon, Oisin Minagh, Niall Murray, Niall Smith etc

What will Ciaran Galligan bring that we haven't seen before. Honest  and committed player that gives his all but not good enough for county senior level imo, he has had plenty of chances in the past. Think Killian Clarke will need to get stonger for a County Senior full back, still next year and 2014 as a u21. Rory Dunne I think is our best full back, if he is fullly fit. Last few years have been terrible at Senior level, need to start performing next year.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on December 02, 2012, 09:37:12 PM
Galligan has been tried but I actually believe there is football in him. He's athletic and can get around the park. Don't need him to score or do anything fancy, just track runners support attacks and keep it simple. Just my opinion. Dunne could be an asset but can he stay injury free?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on December 02, 2012, 09:54:23 PM
Galligan apparently has a good attitude and is committed but he has been tried before and just isn't up to the level required. Goes completely missing during games. McCutcheon or Corr are much better options at midfield.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on December 02, 2012, 09:54:33 PM
Galligan is probaly one of the fittest players in the County, he was one of the main players on that u21 team that lost the u21 final, in 05. Played half forward I think. Hasn't really worked for him at Senior level for some reason.

Think Dunne can be a big player, but it's keeping him fit, he played a few games with Redhills this year and got injured and was back in again near the end of the year. He looked decent when he was tried full back before. Declan Mckiernan is similar. Maybe he was brought into County Senior too soon possibly only 18/19. like Killian Clarke, maybe not fully developed. And picked up injuries as a result.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: CC1 on December 02, 2012, 10:29:23 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on December 02, 2012, 09:09:16 PM
Quote from: Itchy on December 02, 2012, 02:55:38 PM
Well boys (and girls), its december so surely time to start thinking about next year for the county team.

U21's

Rd 1 Home to Monaghan
Semi - Cavan/Monaghan vrs armagh/Fermanagh/Down

Might not be as great a draw as it looked, Monaghan made Ulster minor last year but I'm hopefull we can make the semi and no reason why the final would not be possible.


Minors

I'll be honest and say I don't have a clue how good we are or how good armagh are but sure a home game to start is good. Would be great to see the lads do something at this level again after the terrible show last year.

Seniors

I'm confident the right man is in charge now. I'm also confident we can make a strong spine of a team with the likes of Killian Clarke, McCutcheon, Givney, McKiernan, Keating, Barry Reilly etc. Do we have any older player though with quality and experience in their late 20's to help them - I don't think so. I will take a stab at a team and see what ye think...

- New Keeper - I'm not sure who but the age of being a good shot stopper and hammering your kicks up the field is long gone and for me James Reillys time is gone. You need to be smart with the kicks, you need to read the game in front of you.
- McLoughlin (is he available?)
- Killian Clarke
- Damien Reilly

- Alan Clarke
- McCutcheon
- McKeever

- Givney
- Ciaran Galligan

- Barry Reilly
- G McKiernan
- Jack Brady

- Niall McDermott
- Keating
- K Tierney

Sub bench would then consist of the likes of Declan McKiernan, Joe Dillon, Oisin Minagh, Niall Murray, Niall Smith etc

What will Ciaran Galligan bring that we haven't seen before. Honest  and committed player that gives his all but not good enough for county senior level imo, he has had plenty of chances in the past. Think Killian Clarke will need to get stonger for a County Senior full back, still next year and 2014 as a u21. Rory Dunne I think is our best full back, if he is fullly fit. Last few years have been terrible at Senior level, need to start performing next year.
Disagree, I saw Galligan a few times for the seniors and I really believe he should have been given more of a chance. He was excellent as a CHB the times that I saw him. It was probably a case of tough luck with how it turned out with the old management.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on December 04, 2012, 01:53:04 PM
I'm not having a pop at Ciaran Galligan but the only time I remember him playing Cb was against Offaly in the league this year. He played decent in fairness, but that was against against an awful Offaly team (don't think they even had a manager at the time) and they still managed to beat us.

They were hammered at home by Kildare in Tullamore in the first round in Leinster. Ciaran Galligan was one of the 6 players dropped from the panel before the championship,

I wasn't at all the league games, did he play CB agaisnt Roscommon, one performance against a poor Offaly team is hardly enough.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on December 04, 2012, 03:53:21 PM
He gave a mom display against down in newry a few yrs back when Cavan beat down. I think its in him but maybe he is lacking confidence or direction.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on December 05, 2012, 11:08:59 AM
Good achievment by the Gaels winning the u21 title last Sunday. Assan Gaels had only player missing from their team which beat Newtown last year. Top class manager in Joe O Connor, he managed Lacken for one year in 2008 and it was the very tough trainings but probaly the fittest Lacken were under any manager. He is in the frame for the senior Cavan Gaels job and would probaly be the best man to get them disciplined.

Paul Graham is getting back to form which is good for the u21's next year, probaly would have been starting had he been fit this year.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on December 05, 2012, 11:13:01 AM
Assan Gaels had only 1 player missing is what i meant to say.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: PhilsJemmysField on December 06, 2012, 02:38:56 PM
Gaels were absolute value for the win against assan gaels. Game should have been over at half time really and Paul Graham really ran the show at periods
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on December 06, 2012, 08:05:16 PM
Can someone tell me are the amalgamations going ahead for the senior championship next year or have things been changed?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on December 06, 2012, 08:10:42 PM
Quote from: Itchy on December 06, 2012, 08:05:16 PM
Can someone tell me are the amalgamations going ahead for the senior championship next year or have things been changed?

County Board Meeting tonight to decide League Formats for next year....

Championship structure not being finalised tonight - clubs relegated in 2012 can reapply for Championship status plus Amalgamation applications - all to be in for early January

League Format is gonna be 4 Divisions by the looks of it... Top 2 in each promoted with top 4 playing off for League title.. couple of different options for relegation though
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: PhilsJemmysField on December 07, 2012, 12:54:52 PM
This is what we got this morning  the League will be Home and Away


Option 2
Four divisions
Division 1A  10 teams
Division 1B  10 teams
Division 2  10 teams
Division 3  11 teams.
Top 4 teams on points in Division 1A play off for the League Title
1 v 4 and 2 v 3
Bottom team on points are relegated.
Team 9 on points and team 8 on points play off and loser is relegated to 1B
Top two teams on points in Division 1B are promoted to Division 1A
Top four teams on points play off for the League title.
1 v 4 and 2 v 3
Bottom team on points are relegated.
Team 9 on points and team 8 on points play off and loser is relegated to Division 2
Top two teams on points in Division 2 are promoted to Division 1B
Top four teams on points play off for the League title.
1 v 4 and 2 v 3
Bottom team on points are relegated.
Team 9 on points and team 8 on points play off and loser is relegated to Division 3
Top two teams on points in Division 3 are promoted to Division 2
Top four teams on points play off for the League title.
1 v 4 and 2 v 3.

Championship 2013
Teams who were relegated by the 2012 league can apply for Championship status.
This must be received by the Secretary by noon on Friday 4th January.
Also applications for Amalgamations must also be in for that date.
There are no plans to link League and Championship.
When we have confirmed numbers for the championship we will discuss the format at the first County Committee meeting which will be held on Monday 14th January.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on December 09, 2012, 09:34:25 PM
Cavan beat Louth 2-14 to 0-12 in the Fitzsimmons cup Shield today. No other details at the moment.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on December 10, 2012, 02:33:32 PM
From a poster on hoganstand

1. A O'Meara
2. M Brady
3. R Dunne
4. D Barkey
5. K Meehan
6. A Clarke
7. D O'Reilly
8. G McKiernan
9. O O'Connell
10. K Tierney
11. C Mackey
12. M McKeever
13. M Reilly
14. D Givney
15. E Keating

Barkey was sent off near the end for 2 yellows. Mossy Corr came in for Keating who picked up an injury in the first half, and M Dunne came on for Mackey.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on December 10, 2012, 09:18:24 PM
Report on the match from HS.

SF Tournament: McGivney inspires Cavan
09 December 2012


Cavan's Gearoid McKiernan gets away from Louth's Conor Rafferty during the Fitzsimons Cup Shield final at Grangegodden. TO VIEW A SELECTION OF PHOTOGRAPHS FOR THIS GAME CLICK HERECavan 2-14
Louth 0-12

Cavan turned in an impressive performance to defeat Louth in the Fitzsimons Cup Shield final at Grangegodden. The senior intercounty tournament is hosted by the Gaeil Colmcille club.

Cavan dominated the opening half and led at the interval 2-8 to 0-5. Louth got the better start and where 0-2 to 0-0 up after five minutes with points from Shane Lennon and Brian Donnelly. The Breffni men stormed into the game and a goal from Martin Reilly along with points from Geraoid McKiernan (2) and Eugene Keating put them in the driving seat. Cavan went on another scoring spree in the final ten minutes which yielded 1-4. Reilly got his second goal and a point, Kevin Tierney chipped in with two and McKiernan, who was putting in a man of the match performance, kicked his third point of the half.

Cavan continued to dominate the early exchanges of the second half and points from Mossy Corr and David Givney gave them an eleven point lead. Louth enjoyed their best period in the game midway through the half and where rewarded with points from David Reid, Kevin Rogers, Shane Lennon and Darren Clarke. Just when it looked that the Louth men might stage a comeback Cavan began to dominate again and midfielders McKiernan and Corr kicked two points each to put the issue beyond doubt.

After the game Gaeil Colmcille Chairman Willie Newman presented the Fitzsimons Shield to Cavan captain Gearoid McKiernan.

Cavan scorers: Martin Reilly 2-1, Gearoid McKiernan 0-5, Mossy Corr 0-3, Eugene Keating and Kevin Tierney 0-2 each, David Givney 0-1.

Louth scorers: Shane Lennon 0-4, David Reid 0-3, Kevin Rogers and Brian Donnelly 0-2 each, Darren Clarke 0-1.

Referee Joey Curley Meath



Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: sans pessimism on December 11, 2012, 12:43:33 AM
Quote from: rodney trotter on December 05, 2012, 11:08:59 AM
Good achievment by the Gaels winning the u21 title last Sunday. Assan Gaels had only player missing from their team which beat Newtown last year. Top class manager in Joe O Connor, he managed Lacken for one year in 2008 and it was the very tough trainings but probaly the fittest Lacken were under any manager. He is in the frame for the senior Cavan Gaels job and would probaly be the best man to get them disciplined.

Paul Graham is getting back to form which is good for the u21's next year, probaly would have been starting had he been fit this year.
Did he win with CG as manager previously
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on December 11, 2012, 05:28:03 PM
Quote from: sans pessimism on December 11, 2012, 12:43:33 AM
Quote from: rodney trotter on December 05, 2012, 11:08:59 AM
Good achievment by the Gaels winning the u21 title last Sunday. Assan Gaels had only player missing from their team which beat Newtown last year. Top class manager in Joe O Connor, he managed Lacken for one year in 2008 and it was the very tough trainings but probaly the fittest Lacken were under any manager. He is in the frame for the senior Cavan Gaels job and would probaly be the best man to get them disciplined.

Paul Graham is getting back to form which is good for the u21's next year, probaly would have been starting had he been fit this year.
Did he win with CG as manager previously

Not sure to be honest, its a long time since he was over Cavan Gaels seniors, think he might have been over them in 2001, they won it that year. Wouldn't have been over them since then, they went foreign and had managers from various counties.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: sans pessimism on December 11, 2012, 10:34:25 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on December 11, 2012, 05:28:03 PM
Quote from: sans pessimism on December 11, 2012, 12:43:33 AM
Quote from: rodney trotter on December 05, 2012, 11:08:59 AM
Good achievment by the Gaels winning the u21 title last Sunday. Assan Gaels had only player missing from their team which beat Newtown last year. Top class manager in Joe O Connor, he managed Lacken for one year in 2008 and it was the very tough trainings but probaly the fittest Lacken were under any manager. He is in the frame for the senior Cavan Gaels job and would probaly be the best man to get them disciplined.

Paul Graham is getting back to form which is good for the u21's next year, probaly would have been starting had he been fit this year.
Did he win with CG as manager previously

Not sure to be honest, its a long time since he was over Cavan Gaels seniors, think he might have been over them in 2001, they won it that year. Wouldn't have been over them since then, they went foreign and had managers from various counties.
Is O Connor not a Mayo man Rod
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on December 11, 2012, 10:41:25 PM
Quote from: sans pessimism on December 11, 2012, 10:34:25 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on December 11, 2012, 05:28:03 PM
Quote from: sans pessimism on December 11, 2012, 12:43:33 AM
Quote from: rodney trotter on December 05, 2012, 11:08:59 AM
Good achievment by the Gaels winning the u21 title last Sunday. Assan Gaels had only player missing from their team which beat Newtown last year. Top class manager in Joe O Connor, he managed Lacken for one year in 2008 and it was the very tough trainings but probaly the fittest Lacken were under any manager. He is in the frame for the senior Cavan Gaels job and would probaly be the best man to get them disciplined.

Paul Graham is getting back to form which is good for the u21's next year, probaly would have been starting had he been fit this year.
Did he win with CG as manager previously

Not sure to be honest, its a long time since he was over Cavan Gaels seniors, think he might have been over them in 2001, they won it that year. Wouldn't have been over them since then, they went foreign and had managers from various counties.
Is O Connor not a Mayo man Rod

Ha he is San, uncle of Cillian. Joe has been living in Cavan for 30 years so not quite as foreign as the managers who followed him..
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: sans pessimism on December 12, 2012, 11:42:58 AM
Quote from: rodney trotter on December 11, 2012, 10:41:25 PM
Quote from: sans pessimism on December 11, 2012, 10:34:25 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on December 11, 2012, 05:28:03 PM
Quote from: sans pessimism on December 11, 2012, 12:43:33 AM
Quote from: rodney trotter on December 05, 2012, 11:08:59 AM
Good achievment by the Gaels winning the u21 title last Sunday. Assan Gaels had only player missing from their team which beat Newtown last year. Top class manager in Joe O Connor, he managed Lacken for one year in 2008 and it was the very tough trainings but probaly the fittest Lacken were under any manager. He is in the frame for the senior Cavan Gaels job and would probaly be the best man to get them disciplined.

Paul Graham is getting back to form which is good for the u21's next year, probaly would have been starting had he been fit this year.
Did he win with CG as manager previously

Not sure to be honest, its a long time since he was over Cavan Gaels seniors, think he might have been over them in 2001, they won it that year. Wouldn't have been over them since then, they went foreign and had managers from various counties.
Is O Connor not a Mayo man Rod

Ha he is San, uncle of Cillian. Joe has been living in Cavan for 30 years so not quite as foreign as the managers who followed him..
Perfect combination so Rod....Generosity of Mayo and the cuteness of Cavan!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on December 12, 2012, 12:57:31 PM
Quote from: sans pessimism on December 12, 2012, 11:42:58 AM
Quote from: rodney trotter on December 11, 2012, 10:41:25 PM
Quote from: sans pessimism on December 11, 2012, 10:34:25 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on December 11, 2012, 05:28:03 PM
Quote from: sans pessimism on December 11, 2012, 12:43:33 AM
Quote from: rodney trotter on December 05, 2012, 11:08:59 AM
Good achievment by the Gaels winning the u21 title last Sunday. Assan Gaels had only player missing from their team which beat Newtown last year. Top class manager in Joe O Connor, he managed Lacken for one year in 2008 and it was the very tough trainings but probaly the fittest Lacken were under any manager. He is in the frame for the senior Cavan Gaels job and would probaly be the best man to get them disciplined.

Paul Graham is getting back to form which is good for the u21's next year, probaly would have been starting had he been fit this year.
Did he win with CG as manager previously

Not sure to be honest, its a long time since he was over Cavan Gaels seniors, think he might have been over them in 2001, they won it that year. Wouldn't have been over them since then, they went foreign and had managers from various counties.
Is O Connor not a Mayo man Rod

Ha he is San, uncle of Cillian. Joe has been living in Cavan for 30 years so not quite as foreign as the managers who followed him..
Perfect combination so Rod....Generosity of Mayo and the cuteness of Cavan!

True enough San, although I remember Ciaran McDonald was working around my area for a couple of months about 6 years ago, we weren't cute enough to persuade him to switch to our club!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: sans pessimism on December 12, 2012, 03:14:32 PM
 

QuoteTrue enough San, although I remember Ciaran McDonald was working around my area for a couple of months about 6 years ago, we weren't cute enough to persuade him to switch to our club!
Aw shur Rod,Joe might unearth the Cavan version of Mac!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on December 12, 2012, 03:21:30 PM
Quote from: sans pessimism on December 12, 2012, 03:14:32 PM


QuoteTrue enough San, although I remember Ciaran McDonald was working around my area for a couple of months about 6 years ago, we weren't cute enough to persuade him to switch to our club!
Aw shur Rod,Joe might unearth the Cavan version of Mac!

Ya never know, Michael Lyng was probaly a Mac version until injuries put him back, never the same player since.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on December 13, 2012, 07:00:00 PM
County Convention tonight??  Anyone for it?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Swadman on December 21, 2012, 10:51:09 PM
All-Ireland Club JFC semi-finals:

Sunday, January 27th  (2.00pm)

Breffni Park: Ballinasloe (Galway) v An Port Mor (Armagh).

Ahh memories
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: CompulsoryTillager on December 26, 2012, 02:44:40 AM
Alright lads, am I missing any from here?

http://www.prideinthejersey.com/cavan.html
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on December 26, 2012, 09:12:29 AM
Quote from: CompulsoryTillager on December 26, 2012, 02:44:40 AM
Alright lads, am I missing any from here?

http://www.prideinthejersey.com/cavan.html

They are not official ones, just bootlegs. Note use of the old crest.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on December 27, 2012, 07:03:44 PM
What's the word on Dermot Mc Cabe getting the new full-time paid job as Director of football in Cavan? Best man for the job? What is the job description?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on December 27, 2012, 07:45:09 PM
Same role Nicholas Walsh had, development officer I think is the title. Won't be with the County Minors next year. Gary Donahoe has it alone.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on December 27, 2012, 07:45:55 PM
It's all about who you know, i hear he is doing night courses now.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on December 27, 2012, 09:03:24 PM
I actually think its a good appointment, McCabe knows his stuff and that is a fact. I'm glad Walsh is gone to Australia if I'm honest.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on December 27, 2012, 09:20:43 PM
Quote from: Itchy on December 27, 2012, 09:03:24 PM
I actually think its a good appointment, McCabe knows his stuff and that is a fact. I'm glad Walsh is gone to Australia if I'm honest.

I heard from several people that Walsh was very good at his job.

Well if it is fact that McCabe knows his stuff it must be the correct decision.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on December 27, 2012, 09:27:03 PM
Quote from: tommysmith on December 27, 2012, 09:20:43 PM
Quote from: Itchy on December 27, 2012, 09:03:24 PM
I actually think its a good appointment, McCabe knows his stuff and that is a fact. I'm glad Walsh is gone to Australia if I'm honest.

I heard from several people that Walsh was very good at his job.

Well if it is fact that McCabe knows his stuff it must be the correct decision.

This is just my opinion. Walsh was a great young prospect who got obsessed with putting on muscle and ended up not even able to kick a wall straight. I think that is evidence enough that he was not suited to his role. I'm sure he will do better at a sport that wants big slow hulks. McCabe knows football tactics, does well with young lads and commands respect as he played at the top level for a long time. He was an all star. I think he will do a good job.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on December 27, 2012, 09:31:22 PM
Quote from: Itchy on December 27, 2012, 09:27:03 PM
Quote from: tommysmith on December 27, 2012, 09:20:43 PM
Quote from: Itchy on December 27, 2012, 09:03:24 PM
I actually think its a good appointment, McCabe knows his stuff and that is a fact. I'm glad Walsh is gone to Australia if I'm honest.

I heard from several people that Walsh was very good at his job.

Well if it is fact that McCabe knows his stuff it must be the correct decision.

This is just my opinion. Walsh was a great young prospect who got obsessed with putting on muscle and ended up not even able to kick a wall straight. I think that is evidence enough that he was not suited to his role. I'm sure he will do better at a sport that wants big slow hulks. McCabe knows football tactics, does well with young lads and commands respect as he played at the top level for a long time. He was an all star. I think he will do a good job.
I hope he does do well.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cogito on December 28, 2012, 11:45:15 AM
Of the three U21 teams that reached Ulster Finals and the Minor team as well, Walsh would have played a huge part in their development.

I think he was the first person in Cavan to come at S+C from a strategic point of view and he oversaw the introduction of programmes to the large majority of our current senior panel. Personally he may have been lacking at Football skills on the pitch but I think it is a bit presumptive to just assume that all he did in Cavan was try to get players to put on weight!

To be honest Tommy, I would say his own personal experience made him even more qualified for his job as I would imagine he learned from his own his own experience that you need the balance between S+C and football.

I don't think you get a job in the AFL without being well organiside and extremely good at whast you do - http://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-football/giants-step-allowing-walsh-to-make-great-leap-forward-2921029.html

Saying all that, best of luck to Dermot in his new role. No doubt he will give his best for Cavan football. Extremely important that we keep producing competitive underage teams now. For the first time in a long time there is a bit of momentum and young lads have seen teams winning. Getting a conveyor belt going is one thing. Constantly adding to it is another!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on December 28, 2012, 01:06:38 PM
Walsh did a lot of good work. Might have been hard to listen too at times, but he was a very good coach and as was said he didn't get to work with a Afl club for nothing. He studied a sports related course in Queens when he returend from Oz to get experiece in coaching development and conditioning. He had good experience and was suited for the Job.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on December 28, 2012, 07:34:37 PM
I've got to echo what Cogito has said. Nicholas Walsh was/is not liked by a great many club football people in the county due to his robust style of play. However he was the man in charge overseeing the work of the 5-6 full time coaches and was instrumental in the setting up of coaching and S+C structures for underage county development squads. Those squads which he has worked with have won 1 Ulster Minor title and 2 Under 21's titles and played in an All Ireland final. He deserves great credit for his work in improving the standard of players coming through.


Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on December 28, 2012, 08:45:15 PM
The thing about McCabe getting it after it being advertised nationally does stink a bit though.  There are better qualifed coaches in Cavan never mind the country.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on December 28, 2012, 09:27:00 PM
Quote from: tommysmith on December 28, 2012, 08:45:15 PM
The thing about McCabe getting it after it being advertised nationally does stink a bit though.  There are better qualifed coaches in Cavan never mind the country.

Is McCabe rated highly as a football coach,What is his employment background anyway? I'm fairly sure he doesn't have qualifications in Sports Science/Strength+Conditioning etc but then again  many of the best pure football coaches don't have that background,but specialise in ballwork/tactics/gameplanning so it's not an absolute necessity when he is surrounded by Peter Donnelly/Shaun Doherty etc whom are qualified in the former.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on December 29, 2012, 05:32:49 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on December 28, 2012, 09:27:00 PM
Quote from: tommysmith on December 28, 2012, 08:45:15 PM
The thing about McCabe getting it after it being advertised nationally does stink a bit though.  There are better qualifed coaches in Cavan never mind the country.

Is McCabe rated highly as a football coach,What is his employment background anyway? I'm fairly sure he doesn't have qualifications in Sports Science/Strength+Conditioning etc but then again  many of the best pure football coaches don't have that background,but specialise in ballwork/tactics/gameplanning so it's not an absolute necessity when he is surrounded by Peter Donnelly/Shaun Doherty etc whom are qualified in the former.

That wouldn't be his job though that would be Jody Clarkes and Dermots job will have him as boss to all them lads. 

Quote

Cavan Co. Board G.A.A.
GAMES DEVELOPMENT MANAGER

To assist in the delivery of a focused development programme for the Schools and Clubs of our County, Cavan Co. Board G.A.A. through its Games and Development committee wish to recruit a person who will:

• Lead the Coaching & Games Development Programme as outlined in our County Strategic Plan.
• Link their work with the Ulster GAA Strategic Plan for Coaching & Games.

ESSENTIAL CRITERIA

1. Hold a GAA Level 1 Award in Gaelic Football and/or Hurling or a degree or equivalent 3rd level qualification in a subject which can be proved relevant to the post. (Applicants must hold qualification at time of application).
2. Have at least two years full-time experience (or four years in a voluntary capacity) in the last five years, in a position with responsibility for Coaching & Games Development.
3. Demonstrate experience of managing people in a voluntary or professional context.

Job description and personnel specification pack is available from Liam McCabe, Secretary Cavan Co. Board GAA, Kingspan Breffni Park, Cavan, Telephone 049-4361032, or email secretary.cavan@gaa.ie. Please note our preferred method of distribution is by email. To facilitate this process please ensure to provide your name, address, email and contact telephone numbers in your correspondence with Cavan GAA.

CV's will NOT be accepted. Applications will only be accepted in hard copy form.

Closing date for submission of applications is 4.00pm Friday 9th November 2012.
Late applications will not be accepted.
Interviews will be held week commencing Monday 26th November 2012.

In pursuit of our Equal Opportunities Policy we welcome applications from all sections of the community. In addition all positions involving working in educational establishments are subject to the Garda Vetting process.

Cavan GAA is an equal opportunities employer.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: sans pessimism on January 03, 2013, 01:40:36 PM
I see  Joe o C got the Gaels senior job-Rodney T will be happy!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on January 03, 2013, 10:57:25 PM
It all starts again against Down on Sunday in Breffni in McKenna Cup.
Maybe i'm alone in this,but i cannot remember a tougher Division 3 in the NFL since i started following football,so hopefully the lads will make a fast start.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on January 03, 2013, 11:42:22 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on January 03, 2013, 10:57:25 PM
It all starts again against Down on Sunday in Breffni in McKenna Cup.
Maybe i'm alone in this,but i cannot remember a tougher Division 3 in the NFL since i started following football,so hopefully the lads will make a fast start.
Bloody derby matches every 2nd weekend. Looking forward to it all starting. Hastings cup this weekend too.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on January 04, 2013, 04:16:39 PM
Quote from: sans pessimism on January 03, 2013, 01:40:36 PM
I see  Joe o C got the Gaels senior job-Rodney T will be happy!

Ha, I'm not from the Cavan Gaels club. He will get them very fit and focused, doesn't take any bullst.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BigMac on January 04, 2013, 11:16:49 PM
Rumors floating about the Imperial over Christmas that Ray Cullivan is leaving Ballyhaise. Any truth in that, does anyone know? BallyhaiseMan?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on January 04, 2013, 11:20:26 PM
Quote from: BigMac on January 04, 2013, 11:16:49 PM
Rumors floating about the Imperial over Christmas that Ray Cullivan is leaving Ballyhaise. Any truth in that, does anyone know? BallyhaiseMan?

I thought he left them last year just as the championship started? He left Cavan once or twice two.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on January 04, 2013, 11:23:39 PM
Think he he took a break last year with Ballyhaise, left the Cavan panel before the Kildare game, and in 2010 when he wasn't picked against Fermanagh.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: club_man on January 05, 2013, 10:39:11 AM
So with the new league format this means a total of 18 league games for each club (9 home and away), an increase of 3 on last year when the league didn't finish up until December and was played in fog. Do the county board have no consideration for player welfare with the season now almost having no break (clubs training January-December). So at least 18 league games, minimum 3 championship games and junior games for a lot on top of this. Why not just play each team once in the league, take the pressure of players and get the season finished in a reasonable time frame? We all know that there will be little or no club action between February and April due to the county participating in the National League (despite what the fixture masterplan says!)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on January 05, 2013, 10:55:26 AM
Quote from: BigMac on January 04, 2013, 11:16:49 PM
Rumors floating about the Imperial over Christmas that Ray Cullivan is leaving Ballyhaise. Any truth in that, does anyone know? BallyhaiseMan?

The Imperial ya know! Heard them myself and I wasn't near the Imperial. Lavey apparently. I've been told it's all BS.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on January 05, 2013, 01:04:18 PM
Quote from: club_man on January 05, 2013, 10:39:11 AM
So with the new league format this means a total of 18 league games for each club (9 home and away), an increase of 3 on last year when the league didn't finish up until December and was played in fog. Do the county board have no consideration for player welfare with the season now almost having no break (clubs training January-December). So at least 18 league games, minimum 3 championship games and junior games for a lot on top of this. Why not just play each team once in the league, take the pressure of players and get the season finished in a reasonable time frame? We all know that there will be little or no club action between February and April due to the county participating in the National League (despite what the fixture masterplan says!)

Agree, its obviously going to end up into December again this year whatever way they think it won't. Be great to see how they will fit in the 3 extra league fixtures.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on January 05, 2013, 01:11:47 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on January 05, 2013, 01:04:18 PM
Quote from: club_man on January 05, 2013, 10:39:11 AM
So with the new league format this means a total of 18 league games for each club (9 home and away), an increase of 3 on last year when the league didn't finish up until December and was played in fog. Do the county board have no consideration for player welfare with the season now almost having no break (clubs training January-December). So at least 18 league games, minimum 3 championship games and junior games for a lot on top of this. Why not just play each team once in the league, take the pressure of players and get the season finished in a reasonable time frame? We all know that there will be little or no club action between February and April due to the county participating in the National League (despite what the fixture masterplan says!)

Agree, its obviously going to end up into December again this year whatever way they think it won't. Be great to see how they will fit in the 3 extra league fixtures.

The clubs are going to have to play at least 5 and maybe 6 league games without county players so there should not be a problem getting them played.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on January 05, 2013, 03:09:25 PM
To be honest  lads, I'm looking forward to the new League Structure and I think it could work very well...

Ten teams in each Division will hopefully mean that the gap in standard across those teams will be a lot closer than in pervious years when there was 16 teams in Div 1 and 2...

Also considering that the Top 4 will be involved in Semi-Finals and the bottom 3 involved in avoiding relegation that means that 7 out of the 10 will be involved directly in promotion/relegation - i.e. playing for points right up to Round 18.  The odds are that 1 or 2 more teams will be involved in the shake-up one way or another so hopefully there will be no meaningless games played in the latter stages of the leagues i.e. where 1 or both of the teams are safe and out of the running at the same time...

Hopefully the Championships will work out as well...

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on January 05, 2013, 03:10:13 PM
Some Important Dates for this year


Minor Hurling League 2013

Scheduled to start on 27th January

Minor Football League 2013

Scheduled to start on 10th February

ACFL 2013

Scheduled to start on 17th February

Senior Championship 2013

Scheduled to start on 21st July

Intermediate Championship 2013

Scheduled to start on 11th August

Junior Championship 2013

Scheduled to start on 11th August

The proposed early start to the Senior Championship is designed to facilitate any amalgamations there may be.

The pairings / Round Number(s) for the ACFL 2013 will be released early in the New Year together with the 2013 Master Fixture Planner.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on January 05, 2013, 04:02:30 PM
very big win over Leitrim in the Hastings Cup according to Twitter, 2-15 to 0-2, two goals to Conor Madden, would guess he's  a Gowna man.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on January 05, 2013, 04:22:49 PM
Quote from: anglocelt39 on January 05, 2013, 04:02:30 PM
very big win over Leitrim in the Hastings Cup according to Twitter, 2-15 to 0-2, two goals to Conor Madden, would guess he's  a Gowna man.

Yeah he is a brother of Niall Madden. Very good player, Leitrim must have been terrible. Last year they gave Cavan a good game and there was only 3/4 pts difference.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on January 05, 2013, 05:41:34 PM
AO'Meara.OMinagh.RDunne.KBrady.PO'http://Reilly.AClarke.DO 'Reilly.TCorr.GMcKiernan.CMackey.NMcDermott.MMcKeever.KMeehan.EKeating.DGivney. v Down


tomorrow's team to play Down, again from the Twitterbox
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on January 05, 2013, 06:10:38 PM
Happy enough to see that team. Where is Mccutcheon?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on January 05, 2013, 06:14:32 PM

From twitter, u21 team against Leitrim

FJMcLoughlin.BSankey.TMorrissey.CBrady.AO 'Connell.PMcEvoy.PGraham.KDuke.DMcVeety.CConroy.DTalbot.SMurray.CMadden.EO'Reilly. Cavan starting 15 V Leitrim #gotl

What clubs are S Murray from and D Talbot, or is that a typo error. Was talbot involved with the Minors last year?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanlad on January 05, 2013, 09:54:48 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on January 05, 2013, 06:14:32 PM

From twitter, u21 team against Leitrim

FJMcLoughlin.BSankey.TMorrissey.CBrady.AO 'Connell.PMcEvoy.PGraham.KDuke.DMcVeety.CConroy.DTalbot.SMurray.CMadden.EO'Reilly. Cavan starting 15 V Leitrim #gotl

What clubs are S Murray from and D Talbot, or is that a typo error. Was talbot involved with the Minors last year?

Daniel Talbot is from Killygarry, good soccer player and fast on the field. Don't know who S Murray is form, think he may be from Shannon Gaels.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on January 06, 2013, 01:31:43 PM
Dunne, Givney and Keating all out today.

Dec McKiernan, McCutcheon and Martin Dunne all in.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on January 06, 2013, 01:57:13 PM
http://www.destinationnewry.com/video/latest-video/ Live stream of Cavan v Down
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on January 06, 2013, 02:19:19 PM
Jaysus lads this is poor stuff from us. Early days I know but...
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on January 06, 2013, 02:48:55 PM
Quote from: Westside on January 06, 2013, 02:19:19 PM
Jaysus lads this is poor stuff from us. Early days I know but...

Found our feet and dominated the last 15 mins of the 2nd half. McKiernan dominant in the middle, mackey doing well and Dunne getting some great scores. Would like to see some more spread of the scores though, no real threat from any other player.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on January 06, 2013, 03:03:08 PM
we are 1 point up, dominating but have missed 1-2 at least in the 2nd half.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on January 06, 2013, 03:19:29 PM
Dunne is really the only person we are playing inside.. Keatings physical presence is really missed. We are trailing by 2 at the moment and discipline is beginning to wane. 
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on January 06, 2013, 03:34:00 PM
Bet 1-10 to 0-11.

A decent display, did well around the pitch at different times but as Westside says we had no scoring threat apart from Dunne, who scored 0-09. I thought our Half back line was good, decent in the middle but again no scoring threat at all from half forward. FB line was pretty solid too apart from the goal. Declan McKiernan had a real bad game and I wonder can he hold his nerve at this level. Still Down are a team that contest an AI final not so long ago and Cavan extremely young team. Lots to work on but a decent enough start.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on January 06, 2013, 03:49:14 PM
Not a disastrous to the year as Itchy says.. But if we are playing that ponderous passing around midfield, passing from the inside forward line back out to the 45 constantly then this team will drive people mad. Gearoid and Dunne were our only scoring threats. Several times McKeever and McDermott had the ball in what should be scoring positions and didn't even consider going for the score.

Mackey played very well in patches, as did McKeever, Gearoid was our best player by a distance. The defence held well after the opening flurry of scores from Down. Poor games from Declan McKiernan (missed a few fairly straighforward frees at vital times)  and Niall McDermot, Oisin O'Connell and Murray didn't do well when they came on either.

Some positives to be taken from today but at the end of the day we got nothing from the game. Lukewarm start to the year I suppose but there was no lack of effort and we had a few nice passages of play. We tired towards the end and gave away some sloppy frees. The McKenna Cup means nothing at this stage, it's all about league survival and from today we've learned that we need to have a bigger spread of scoring threat, a reliable free taker, and wrap Gearoid in cotton wool.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on January 06, 2013, 04:12:19 PM
Cavan were missing Eugene keating, who was Cavans best forward in the Championship last year and had started off well in the League until he got injured and David Givney who is one of the top midfield players in Ulster.

Wouldn't be getting that worried about it. Its only the 6th of Januray. When everyone is available like Givney,Keating,Jack Brady and Martin Reilly there would be lots more players capable of scoring...
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: gortnaleck on January 06, 2013, 05:13:55 PM
How come Dunne did not take those frees in the second half ? Down seemed to have a lot of very big players out there.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on January 06, 2013, 05:17:00 PM
Quote from: gortnaleck on January 06, 2013, 05:13:55 PM
How come Dunne did not take those frees in the second half ? Down seemed to have a lot of very big players out there.

He only takes the handy ones.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: gortnaleck on January 06, 2013, 06:20:30 PM
They looked handy enough
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on January 06, 2013, 06:32:40 PM
Ffs, he scored 9 points and cut out a lot of the silly shots he used to be at and ye are making sly digs. Give the lad a break.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: gortnaleck on January 06, 2013, 06:47:01 PM
I know what he scored, that's why I'm wondering why he did not take those frees
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on January 06, 2013, 06:47:28 PM
I was just stating the obvious not having a go at anyone.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on January 06, 2013, 07:02:38 PM
Don't think Martin Dunne ever takes long range free's anyway. Keating would normally take them but he wasn't playing
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on January 06, 2013, 08:59:52 PM
Quote from: tommysmith on January 06, 2013, 06:47:28 PM
I was just stating the obvious not having a go at anyone.

Well it read like you were saying he only took easy frees - if thats not what you meant then apologies. I expect he doesn't have the distance for the ones further out.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on January 07, 2013, 06:19:08 PM
Down can probaly afford to miss a few key players whereas Cavan can't. Down were still missing Danny Hughes, Dan Gordon, Ambrose Rodgers,Donal O Hare.

Thought Cavan would win, but they brought on the likes of Coulter who I thought was injured, Connor Laverty and Liam Doyle. Class players. Down are a level above Cavan, they have been playing Division 1 league the last few years and got to the league semi last year, Cavan were lucky not to be relagated to div4 last year. It was a decent display against a good team.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: scoopmine on January 08, 2013, 11:55:09 AM
Good to see Minagh and Alan Clarke playing hopefully they are still around come summertime. Any word on Lyng playing? Our half forwards do not want to shoot. Our gameplan seemed to be get the ball to Dunn and let him shoot. Come League time I can't see that working well. A lot of positives to take from our first day out
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on January 08, 2013, 12:45:47 PM
Think lyng is still working in Mayo and can't give the commitment.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on January 08, 2013, 12:53:22 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on January 08, 2013, 12:45:47 PM
Think lyng is still working in Mayo and can't give the commitment.

Yeah, he is a teacher in Ballina or Knockmore or somewhere in North Mayo. Can't comment on whether it is a commitment thing or an injury thing. Great shame as he's a top player when he is going well.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on January 08, 2013, 03:29:38 PM
Quote from: Itchy on January 08, 2013, 12:53:22 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on January 08, 2013, 12:45:47 PM
Think lyng is still working in Mayo and can't give the commitment.

Yeah, he is a teacher in Ballina or Knockmore or somewhere in North Mayo. Can't comment on whether it is a commitment thing or an injury thing. Great shame as he's a top player when he is going well.

He is, but wasn't really going well for a few years with Cavan, injuries or confidence not sure not what it is. Think he is a very good player, but never really showed on his early form with Cavan when he first got on the panel. Then got a few serious injuries. He was very poor 2 years ago in the Championship against Donegal and against Longford in the qualifier.

Barry Reilly when he is fully fit is probaly the best play maker available. Hopefully he gets over his latest injury soon enough.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on January 08, 2013, 05:08:33 PM
Terry hyland after match reaction. Fairly grounded. Sorry for the interviewer, he is a tool.

http://www.northernsound.ie/sport/terry-hyland-disappointed-but-remains-upbeat/
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on January 10, 2013, 01:31:05 PM
QuoteArmagh GAA is pleased to announce the launch of its first ever live streaming service, "ARMAGH TV".

The first game to be streamed live on ArmaghGAA.net will be the senior team's Power NI McKenna Cup game against Cavan on Saturday 12th January at 7pm.

Could you please let the Cavan supporters know that they can watch the game at http://www.armaghgaa.net/armaghtv/



I'm sure your supporters overseas would be glad to watch.





Le meas



Réamonn - PRO Ard Mhacha
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on January 10, 2013, 01:52:54 PM
Quote from: tommysmith on January 10, 2013, 01:31:05 PM
QuoteArmagh GAA is pleased to announce the launch of its first ever live streaming service, "ARMAGH TV".

The first game to be streamed live on ArmaghGAA.net will be the senior team's Power NI McKenna Cup game against Cavan on Saturday 12th January at 7pm.

Could you please let the Cavan supporters know that they can watch the game at http://www.armaghgaa.net/armaghtv/



I'm sure your supporters overseas would be glad to watch.





Le meas



Réamonn - PRO Ard Mhacha

That's great. Great to have both our games streamed live
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on January 10, 2013, 01:57:00 PM
It knocks any notion i had of going out of my head now.

Feet up on the coach with a few beers instead  :D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on January 10, 2013, 02:16:05 PM
I'd go if I could but work Saturday and won't get away on time. Still good to look back on the stream to analyse it.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on January 11, 2013, 09:13:39 PM
Cavan fans will see the familiar figure of Drung's James Reilly patrolling the goal line as he replaces Alan O'Meara between the posts. Kevin Meehan who left the field injured within minutes of throw in last Sunday remains unavailable for selection otherwise Terry Hyland has shown faith in last Sundays starting selection.

James Reilly.
Oisin Minagh, Killian Brady, Damian Barkey.
Padraic Reilly, Alan Clarke, John McCutcheon.
Tomas Corr, Gearoid McKiernan.
Damien O'Reilly, Declan McKiernan, Mark McKeever.
Cian Mackey, Martin Dunne, Niall McDermott


Hastings cup tomorrow against Offaly
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on January 11, 2013, 10:19:14 PM
Hopefully we will play McDermott inside too.. He really needs to show his worth to the team. He has the potential and he's a good honest lad but he needs to make an impact. Hard to see us getting a result in Armagh. Great that it's being streamed for those of us who can't make the game.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on January 11, 2013, 10:25:40 PM
Quote from: Westside on January 11, 2013, 10:19:14 PM
Hopefully we will play McDermott inside too.. He really needs to show his worth to the team. He has the potential and he's a good honest lad but he needs to make an impact. Hard to see us getting a result in Armagh. Great that it's being streamed for those of us who can't make the game.

Armagh are playing a real new look team so there should be a decent chance of getting a result. However, the result is not that important.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on January 11, 2013, 11:11:49 PM
Solid look to the half back line. Defence looks better this year with the likes of Moynagh, Alan Clarke and McCuthheon back on the panel. James McEnroe must be still injured, he hasn't featured yet.Damian Barkey is a good corner back aswell.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on January 12, 2013, 05:10:42 PM
U21s beat Offaly 0-15 to 1-5 today in Hastings cup, team was...

C Gilsenan, C Smith, K Clarke, C Brady, D McVitty, L Moynagh, A O Connell, B Sankey, P Graham, J Brady, E Reilly, K Duke, J Bradley, C Madden, A Graham.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on January 13, 2013, 08:50:35 AM
So did anyone make it up to the game yesterday evening? I'd be interested to hear their views on the performance. It was hard enough to see what was happening on the stream as the camera was often very close up to the action. Anyway, for what its worth I thought our performance wasn't as good as against Down. We got some soft goals and that was the difference in the end. The Armagh lads seemed to be a lot stronger than us and we struggled to break tackles when hand passing the ball out which really slowed us up. A lot of the problem is that lads are not taking passes on the run or at speed, its all flat passing to almost static players. Only mackey was really able to come out and leave Armagh players in his wake. I also thought our handling wasn't great and we made a lot of unforced errors. Niall McD seems to be struggling to make the ball stick and then to use it quickly and so again Dunne was the only man winning ball inside (although he was quieter than last time, despite his two goals). James Reilly needs to lose a "few" pounds. So just like a defeat last week doesn't mean we are crap a win this week doesn't mean we are great.

The positives are that we got three goal chances and buried them all, McKiernans points were outstanding especially the one where he took a pass with his back to goal turned and fired over without look at the posts. His point scoring reminded me of big mccabe last night. Dunne has to be full of confidence hitting 17 points in 2 games. I thought defensively we frustrated armagh who were looking to put in long balls but could not easily find a way through. Our work rate again was very good and we did look fairly fit for this time of the year. Big positive is the confidence gained, winning in Armagh is not an easy thing and winning is a habit. If Armagh beat Down by less than 4 points then I think we win the group and it would be good to get a run out against another team.

I think the Antrim game will be a step up and really think we could do badly with the strength of Dunne, Givney and Keating but we should be going all out for a good start and a win in Belfast.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on January 13, 2013, 01:11:15 PM
Good summary Itchy. McKiernan was outstanding last night. Mackey is also playing very well and burned Armagh players for pace several times last night. You're right about the League opening, a win puts you on the front foot straight away with a good chance of survival. A loss and you're in another relegation dogfight. There are no obvious whipping boys in this years Div 3 and going down is a real possibility.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on January 13, 2013, 03:13:06 PM
Givney said it himself on Twitter, I hope its a joke as that would be a disaster.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on January 13, 2013, 03:53:58 PM
It's bullshit.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on January 14, 2013, 10:11:55 PM
17 teams in Senior Championship next year 10 divison 1A teams and  Drumgoon, Gowna , Killygarry, Crosserlough, Castlerahan, Drumalee and Redhills.

Intermediate - 10 teams in division 2 and Shercock and Butlersbridge


Junior the rest.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on January 14, 2013, 10:21:29 PM
Quote from: tommysmith on January 14, 2013, 10:11:55 PM
17 teams in Senior Championship next year 10 divison 1A teams and  Drumgoon, Gowna , Killygarry, Crosserlough, Castlerahan, Drumalee and Redhills.

Intermediate - 10 teams in division 2 and Shercock and Butlersbridge


Junior the rest.

I don't understand that at all, they wanted to improve the quality in the Senior Championship and reduce the number of teams, as  there was lots of one sided games in the last few years.

What's the point in reducing the number for the league. if they didn't do the same for the Championship. Drumalee were hammered in nearly every game last year in Division 1.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on January 14, 2013, 10:27:24 PM
Not a dig at Drumalee, Redhills struggled last year aswell although they had lots of injuries Drumalee probaly had a few aswell

Up to the clubs if they want to play in Senior i suppose. 17 is a big number..
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on January 14, 2013, 10:29:57 PM
Munterconnaught may have applied for junior?

No such thing as relegation anymore in championhip by look of things.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on January 14, 2013, 11:03:47 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on January 14, 2013, 10:21:29 PM
Quote from: tommysmith on January 14, 2013, 10:11:55 PM
17 teams in Senior Championship next year 10 divison 1A teams and  Drumgoon, Gowna , Killygarry, Crosserlough, Castlerahan, Drumalee and Redhills.

Intermediate - 10 teams in division 2 and Shercock and Butlersbridge


Junior the rest.

I don't understand that at all, they wanted to improve the quality in the Senior Championship and reduce the number of teams, as  there was lots of one sided games in the last few years.

What's the point in reducing the number for the league. if they didn't do the same for the Championship. Drumalee were hammered in nearly every game last year in Division 1.

Bit of an exaggeration Rodney. We took a hammering from the Gaels and Ramor to a lesser extent. Then when the league meant nothing we got hammered in the final 2 games with makeshift teams. We were competitive in the championship and most league games while missing some key players. Drumalee have won 2 Intermediate Championships in the past number of years so going back to Intermediate would have been hard to get lads motivated for. It's up to the players now to finally make a proper stab at Senior level which we haven't done before.
Crosserlough couldn't even win the Intermediate championship and they are up but fair play to them. They are showing a bit of ambition and they know they will have to raise the bar out there.

Kill have gone down to junior also.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on January 15, 2013, 12:12:17 AM
Hmmm... So by the sound of things, in Division 1B only ourselves, Belturbet and Drumlane are not Senior Championship...

Think I'll have to sleep on this one and see in the morning what I make of it... Suffice it to say that it's interesting!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on January 15, 2013, 06:29:48 AM
Quote from: tommysmith on January 14, 2013, 10:11:55 PM
17 teams in Senior Championship next year 10 divison 1A teams and  Drumgoon, Gowna , Killygarry, Crosserlough, Castlerahan, Drumalee and Redhills.

Intermediate - 10 teams in division 2 and Shercock and Butlersbridge


Junior the rest.

Ballyhaise have been relegated to Junior,
Shower of bastards.....

Quote from: Celt_Man on January 15, 2013, 12:12:17 AM
Hmmm... So by the sound of things, in Division 1B only ourselves, Belturbet and Drumlane are not Senior Championship...

Think I'll have to sleep on this one and see in the morning what I make of it... Suffice it to say that it's interesting!

Ahem...
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on January 15, 2013, 10:46:59 AM
Quote from: boojangles on January 14, 2013, 11:03:47 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on January 14, 2013, 10:21:29 PM
Quote from: tommysmith on January 14, 2013, 10:11:55 PM
17 teams in Senior Championship next year 10 divison 1A teams and  Drumgoon, Gowna , Killygarry, Crosserlough, Castlerahan, Drumalee and Redhills.

Intermediate - 10 teams in division 2 and Shercock and Butlersbridge


Junior the rest.

I don't understand that at all, they wanted to improve the quality in the Senior Championship and reduce the number of teams, as  there was lots of one sided games in the last few years.

What's the point in reducing the number for the league. if they didn't do the same for the Championship. Drumalee were hammered in nearly every game last year in Division 1.

Bit of an exaggeration Rodney. We took a hammering from the Gaels and Ramor to a lesser extent. Then when the league meant nothing we got hammered in the final 2 games with makeshift teams. We were competitive in the championship and most league games while missing some key players. Drumalee have won 2 Intermediate Championships in the past number of years so going back to Intermediate would have been hard to get lads motivated for. It's up to the players now to finally make a proper stab at Senior level which we haven't done before.
Crosserlough couldn't even win the Intermediate championship and they are up but fair play to them. They are showing a bit of ambition and they know they will have to raise the bar out there.

Kill have gone down to junior also.

Castlerahan in the 3rd or 4th round of the league gave Drumalee a bit of  a beating aswell. Probaly a bit of a exaggeration by saying every game. Drumalee gave Belturbet a good game in the Championship.

All the talk of the amalgamations and nothing happened at all.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on January 15, 2013, 11:14:20 AM
Quote from: Celt_Man on January 15, 2013, 12:12:17 AM
Hmmm... So by the sound of things, in Division 1B only ourselves, Belturbet and Drumlane are not Senior Championship...

Think I'll have to sleep on this one and see in the morning what I make of it... Suffice it to say that it's interesting!

Belturbet are still senior must be 18 teams in it .

Oh and BHman settle the head you are still intermediate  :D but i dont think you will ever win it.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on January 15, 2013, 11:20:20 AM
Jamie Clarke will be around for the Champo

http://t.co/ddecJ15X
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on January 15, 2013, 01:58:19 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on January 15, 2013, 06:29:48 AM
Quote from: tommysmith on January 14, 2013, 10:11:55 PM
17 teams in Senior Championship next year 10 divison 1A teams and  Drumgoon, Gowna , Killygarry, Crosserlough, Castlerahan, Drumalee and Redhills.

Intermediate - 10 teams in division 2 and Shercock and Butlersbridge


Junior the rest.

Ballyhaise have been relegated to Junior,
Shower of b**tards.....

Quote from: Celt_Man on January 15, 2013, 12:12:17 AM
Hmmm... So by the sound of things, in Division 1B only ourselves, Belturbet and Drumlane are not Senior Championship...

Think I'll have to sleep on this one and see in the morning what I make of it... Suffice it to say that it's interesting!

Ahem...

Ahh that first post was obviously wrong and I didn't cop it straight away - Castlerahan shouldn't have been mentioned as going back into Senior....  Belturbet should have been included on that list instead...

Apologies BHMan so that's ourselves, yourselves and Drumlane the only ones not Senior in Division 1B

And after all the comings and goings, we have ended up with one more team in the Senior Championship this year (17) and not an amalgamation in sight!!

What way are they gonna work that now? 3 Groups of 4 and one of 5, will mean 4 rounds of fixtures or will they still look for amalgamations to make it up to 20?

If there are no amalgamations then, is there any point in pushing the start of the Intermediate and Junior Championship back to 11th August to wait until first stages of Senior Championships are over??

Interesting...
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on January 15, 2013, 02:18:19 PM
There is still a chance for amaglamations to enter Senior Championships but in reality that wont happen.

The structures for championships are not decided yet.

There are 3 options.

1. Straight Knockout,
2. Groups.
3. Back door system / Where every team will have at least 2 games.

The clubs have to give feedback on what they want and then a decision will be made.   


Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on January 15, 2013, 02:23:28 PM
Other things to be finalised are the Reserve league and championship.

Options here are:

Reserve teams will play home and away fixtures same as their senior team.

Reserve teams will only play one half of the fixtures (with this option Reserve championship which will be played in June and July will have a back door so teams will have at least 2 championship games)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on January 15, 2013, 02:38:53 PM
Quote from: tommysmith on January 15, 2013, 02:18:19 PM
There is still a chance for amaglamations to enter Senior Championships but in reality that wont happen.

The structures for championships are not decided yet.

There are 3 options.

1. Straight Knockout,
2. Groups.
3. Back door system / Where every team will have at least 2 games.

The clubs have to give feedback on what they want and then a decision will be made.

Hmmm I think too much is invested in teams to have just straight knock out...

That Backdoor system as was run a couple of years ago isn't the best either because if you won your first game you had a long break till your next game

Groups isn't too bad especially when there is relegation from the Championship - keeps every game competitive as teams avoid relegation play-offs
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on January 15, 2013, 03:24:20 PM
Quote from: Celt_Man on January 15, 2013, 02:38:53 PM
Quote from: tommysmith on January 15, 2013, 02:18:19 PM
There is still a chance for amaglamations to enter Senior Championships but in reality that wont happen.

The structures for championships are not decided yet.

There are 3 options.

1. Straight Knockout,
2. Groups.
3. Back door system / Where every team will have at least 2 games.

The clubs have to give feedback on what they want and then a decision will be made.


That Backdoor system as was run a couple of years ago isn't the best either because if you won your first game you had a long break till your next game

Its replays that would f**k that up i think its good enough only for that.


Groups isn't too bad especially when there is relegation from the Championship - keeps every game competitive as teams avoid relegation play-offs

There is no relegation sure teams can now choose what championship they want to play in even if they did lose a relegation playoff.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on January 15, 2013, 04:55:43 PM
Quote from: tommysmith on January 15, 2013, 03:24:20 PM
Quote from: Celt_Man on January 15, 2013, 02:38:53 PM
Quote from: tommysmith on January 15, 2013, 02:18:19 PM
There is still a chance for amaglamations to enter Senior Championships but in reality that wont happen.

The structures for championships are not decided yet.

There are 3 options.

1. Straight Knockout,
2. Groups.
3. Back door system / Where every team will have at least 2 games.

The clubs have to give feedback on what they want and then a decision will be made.


That Backdoor system as was run a couple of years ago isn't the best either because if you won your first game you had a long break till your next game

Its replays that would f**k that up i think its good enough only for that.


Groups isn't too bad especially when there is relegation from the Championship - keeps every game competitive as teams avoid relegation play-offs

There is no relegation sure teams can now choose what championship they want to play in even if they did lose a relegation playoff.

Na sure that was only this year... Relegation from the 2012 League was meant to decide 2013 League & Championship but '12 League position only ended up deciding this year's League position hence the choice for those teams relegated could ask to be re-instated to their 2012 Championship Grade....  Makes sense now?  :o

I'd be fairly certain of there being Relegation from this season's Championship

The problem with the backdoor was that the seven first round winners had to wait for the seven first round losers to play and leave just one Backdoor team remaining.... Thats a minimum of 4 weeks anyway

Possibly the Donegal idea would be a better option than that Backdoor system i.e play Home and Away with a 3rd match required if it's one win apiece..

For all it's faults, I still think the Groups work reasonably well... Guaranteed at least 3 games and bottom teams go into Relegation Playoffs...
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on January 15, 2013, 05:06:21 PM
Quote from: Celt_Man on January 15, 2013, 04:55:43 PM
Quote from: tommysmith on January 15, 2013, 03:24:20 PM
Quote from: Celt_Man on January 15, 2013, 02:38:53 PM
Quote from: tommysmith on January 15, 2013, 02:18:19 PM
There is still a chance for amaglamations to enter Senior Championships but in reality that wont happen.

The structures for championships are not decided yet.

There are 3 options.

1. Straight Knockout,
2. Groups.
3. Back door system / Where every team will have at least 2 games.

The clubs have to give feedback on what they want and then a decision will be made.


That Backdoor system as was run a couple of years ago isn't the best either because if you won your first game you had a long break till your next game

Its replays that would f**k that up i think its good enough only for that.


Groups isn't too bad especially when there is relegation from the Championship - keeps every game competitive as teams avoid relegation play-offs

There is no relegation sure teams can now choose what championship they want to play in even if they did lose a relegation playoff.

Na sure that was only this year... Relegation from the 2012 League was meant to decide 2013 League & Championship but '12 League position only ended up deciding this year's League position hence the choice for those teams relegated could ask to be re-instated to their 2012 Championship Grade....  Makes sense now?  :o

I'd be fairly certain of there being Relegation from this season's Championship

The problem with the backdoor was that the seven first round winners had to wait for the seven first round losers to play and leave just one Backdoor team remaining.... Thats a minimum of 4 weeks anyway

Yeah i see that point,  is there anyother system to get the backdoor teams in quicker by playing  one game and then joining the  first round winners in a open draw? (maybe that doesnt give enough reward to winning first round winners)

On relegation ballinagh got back into senior championship a few years ago after been relegated and county board said that there was always a rule where teams could apply to play in whatever championship they wanted.  I think its time a law was introduced to stop teams from doing this thus giving championship more importance.




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Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on January 15, 2013, 05:26:13 PM
As far as i know Ballymachugh have also moved up to Intermediate.

Thats means that Cornafean, Mountnugent and Balllymachugh are moving up having failed to win the Junior championship.

Anyone have any views on this i think its totally wrong.


Apologies for getting some teams wrong i didnt write them down and its hard to remember then all.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on January 15, 2013, 05:56:44 PM
Quote from: tommysmith on January 15, 2013, 05:26:13 PM
As far as i know Ballymachugh have also moved up to Intermediate.

Thats means that Cornafean, Mountnugent and Balllymachugh are moving up having failed to win the Junior championship.

Anyone have any views on this i think its totally wrong.


Apologies for getting some teams wrong i didnt write them down and its hard to remember then all.


Are they having a laugh or what... It was known before the start of the League last year that the teams who were going to be relagated in Division 1 League would also be losing their place in the Senior Championship. Denn beat Drumgoon in a relegation/promotion play off and that counts for nothing now.

They have just thrown the idea out the window and felt the wrat of a few clubs not happy about what was happening, and now it has gone into a comedy show.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on January 15, 2013, 06:02:58 PM
Ballymachugh were Intermediate last year anyway so they are just remaining the same as last year...
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on January 15, 2013, 06:19:52 PM
Its a farce the whole thing.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on January 16, 2013, 10:59:08 AM
Wasn't trying to single out teams. They brought in the proposal of changing the format of the championship last year, which would happen this year, and then kept chopping and changing it, and now there is more clubs in the Senior Championship to last year and no amalgamations.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on January 16, 2013, 12:06:04 PM
Example from County Board of how it may work out in Senior Championship

QuoteExample of Senior Championship based on back door option with 17 teams            
            
   Preliminary Round 1   week 1   2 x 2    2 winners go through to first round proper
   Preliminary Round 2   week 2   1 x 1   play off between losers of week 1 - winner goes through to first round proper
   Round 1   week 3   8 x 2      8 winners (A) & 8 losers (B)
   Round 2   week 4   4 x 2 (A) + 4 x 2 (B)   4 winners (A) & 4 winners (B)
   Round 3   week 5   2 x 2 (A) + 2 x 2 (B)   2 winners (A) & 2 winners (B)
   Round 4   Week 6   A v B + A v B   Semi Final
   Round 5   Week 7      Final
            
   Note: Each round could potentially have a drawn game which will increase uncertainty around fixtures in MFP 

If i read that right it would mean the losers of the first round would stay apart from the first round winners until the semi final??
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on January 16, 2013, 04:17:56 PM
Quote from: tommysmith on January 16, 2013, 12:06:04 PM
Example from County Board of how it may work out in Senior Championship

Example of Senior Championship based on back door option with 17 teams            
            
   Preliminary Round 1   week 1   2 x 2    2 winners go through to first round proper
   Preliminary Round 2   week 2   1 x 1   play off between losers of week 1 - winner goes through to first round proper
   Round 1   week 3   8 x 2      8 winners (A) & 8 losers (B)
   Round 2   week 4   4 x 2 (A) + 4 x 2 (B)   4 winners (A) & 4 winners (B)
   Round 3   week 5   2 x 2 (A) + 2 x 2 (B)   2 winners (A) & 2 winners (B)
   Round 4   Week 6   A v B + A v B   Semi Final
   Round 5   Week 7      Final
            
   Note: Each round could potentially have a drawn game which will increase uncertainty around fixtures in MFP 

And they said that I'd never use algebra in real life after the Leaving Cert....
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on January 16, 2013, 04:32:44 PM
Comparing Johnny Sextons future departure from Leinster and Seanie Johnstons from Cavan

http://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-football/martin-breheny-amateur-johnston-vilified-yet-nobody-questions-loyalty-of-heroic-figure-sexton-3354673.html
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on January 16, 2013, 04:46:39 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on January 16, 2013, 04:32:44 PM
Comparing Johnny Sextons future departure from Leinster and Seanie Johnstons from Cavan

http://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-football/martin-breheny-amateur-johnston-vilified-yet-nobody-questions-loyalty-of-heroic-figure-sexton-3354673.html

I think Brehony is probably the biggest gobshite of a journalist in the GAA. I find it hard to force myself to read anything he writes. On this occassion I did force myself to read it and unfortunately I see that nothing has changed. Personally, I think that is just a pile of rubbish. Anyway - should you not post that on the Kildare thread?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Western Blue on January 16, 2013, 04:47:32 PM
Is Jonny Cavan Man  ( Seanie Johnston) still living in Cavan Town. He does not appear to be getting any game time with Kildare so far after 3 matches. When does the transfer window close, we might have him back?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on January 16, 2013, 05:03:30 PM
Sure people can still read it Itchy. Not everyone wanted to see Johnston gone, he was a good player for Cavan whatever about his attitude.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on January 16, 2013, 05:14:56 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on January 16, 2013, 05:03:30 PM
Sure people can still read it Itchy. Not everyone wanted to see Johnston gone, he was a good player for Cavan whatever about his attitude.

+1
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on January 16, 2013, 05:57:17 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on January 15, 2013, 05:56:44 PM
Quote from: tommysmith on January 15, 2013, 05:26:13 PM
As far as i know Ballymachugh have also moved up to Intermediate.

Thats means that Cornafean, Mountnugent and Balllymachugh are moving up having failed to win the Junior championship.

Anyone have any views on this i think its totally wrong.


Apologies for getting some teams wrong i didnt write them down and its hard to remember then all.


Are they having a laugh or what... It was known before the start of the League last year that the teams who were going to be relagated in Division 1 League would also be losing their place in the Senior Championship. Denn beat Drumgoon in a relegation/promotion play off and that counts for nothing now.

They have just thrown the idea out the window and felt the wrat of a few clubs not happy about what was happening, and now it has gone into a comedy show.

The clubs have spoken Rodney and democracy has won. The County Board finally engaged with the clubs instead of trying to railroad through changes based on a Fermanagh man's opinion. Whatever comes out of it all at least the County Board have received by and large the opinions of the people that matter in Cavan GAA, the club officers, players and members.
As Tommy mentioned earlier they have now given the clubs further opportunity to engage and influence how the Championships should be run. Assuming that you are a club member you can have an input into that if you want to.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on January 16, 2013, 06:03:38 PM
Quote from: Celt_Man on January 16, 2013, 05:14:56 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on January 16, 2013, 05:03:30 PM
Sure people can still read it Itchy. Not everyone wanted to see Johnston gone, he was a good player for Cavan whatever about his attitude.

+1

I'm sure there are some that wanted to see him stay but I think it is a good thing and I hope he never comes back. One question, why is he not playing with Cavan this year?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on January 16, 2013, 06:12:04 PM
What would be the point of going through 6 months waiting for the transfer to go through with Kildare ,and then go back to Cavan after bearly playing for Kildare.

McGeeney is another reason, his final year with Kildare. Jason Ryan is there this year as selector, and he will probaly replace McGeeney next year.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on January 16, 2013, 06:20:58 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on January 16, 2013, 06:12:04 PM
What would be the point of going through 6 months waiting for the transfer to go through with Kildare ,and then go back to Cavan after bearly playing for Kildare.

McGeeney is another reason, his final year with Kildare. Jason Ryan is there this year as selector, and he will probaly replace McGeeney next year.
That's correct. But the reasons he gave for leaving no longer exist so the only thing keeping him there is the notion he'll win something. Tells me all I need to know about him.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on January 16, 2013, 06:35:19 PM
Quote from: Western Blue on January 16, 2013, 04:47:32 PM
Is Jonny Cavan Man  ( Seanie Johnston) still living in Cavan Town. He does not appear to be getting any game time with Kildare so far after 3 matches. When does the transfer window close, we might have him back?

He has been out with a calf injury since xmass, saw that in another piece in the indo.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on January 17, 2013, 11:17:14 AM
Quote from: boojangles on January 16, 2013, 05:57:17 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on January 15, 2013, 05:56:44 PM
Quote from: tommysmith on January 15, 2013, 05:26:13 PM
As far as i know Ballymachugh have also moved up to Intermediate.

Thats means that Cornafean, Mountnugent and Balllymachugh are moving up having failed to win the Junior championship.

Anyone have any views on this i think its totally wrong.


Apologies for getting some teams wrong i didnt write them down and its hard to remember then all.


Are they having a laugh or what... It was known before the start of the League last year that the teams who were going to be relagated in Division 1 League would also be losing their place in the Senior Championship. Denn beat Drumgoon in a relegation/promotion play off and that counts for nothing now.

They have just thrown the idea out the window and felt the wrat of a few clubs not happy about what was happening, and now it has gone into a comedy show.

The clubs have spoken Rodney and democracy has won. The County Board finally engaged with the clubs instead of trying to railroad through changes based on a Fermanagh man's opinion. Whatever comes out of it all at least the County Board have received by and large the opinions of the people that matter in Cavan GAA, the club officers, players and members.
As Tommy mentioned earlier they have now given the clubs further opportunity to engage and influence how the Championships should be run. Assuming that you are a club member you can have an input into that if you want to.

It will be interesting. Drumalee would be capable of beating a lot of Division 1A sides, probaly were a good bit under strength last year like a few clubs, emmigration etc. Hopefully it works out, no point changing it again at this stage.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on January 18, 2013, 12:23:02 PM
For the record Itchy,because Terry is now Cavan manager doesn't mean anything.
Johnston put in the transfer to Kildare in December 2011,obviously when Andrews was still manager, he was then training with St Kevins and Kildare and was at all the Kildare league games. Obviously couldn't tog out as the transfer still hadn't gone through.

He wasn't just going to decide to go back to Cavan in May after being involved with Kildare from December. Andrews getting the sack made no difference he was set on playing with Kildare. Good luck to him.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on January 18, 2013, 01:53:07 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on January 18, 2013, 12:23:02 PM
For the record Itchy,because Terry is now Cavan manager doesn't mean anything.
Johnston put in the transfer to Kildare in December 2011,obviously when Andrews was still manager, he was then training with St Kevins and Kildare and was at all the Kildare league games. Obviously couldn't tog out as the transfer still hadn't gone through.

He wasn't just going to decide to go back to Cavan in May after being involved with Kildare from December. Andrews getting the sack made no difference he was set on playing with Kildare. Good luck to him.

I know all that Rodney. However, if he really loved his county and he really left as he was told by a former manager that he wasn't going to play for Cavan again then he could have decided to transfer back quite easily (since he works and lives in Cavan). Terry Hyland is on record as saying he would consider him for selection. Where there is a will there is a way, where  there is no will then there is no way. I suppose if you believe Sean Johnstons reasons for leaving then fair enough. I believe he left to chase success elsewhere and like I said that's all I need to know about it to be glad he is no longer a Cavan player. Anyway - I think there is nothing to be gained by discussing on here in a Cavan thread.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on January 18, 2013, 02:00:56 PM
I know there isn't yeah, just replied to that Question you asked, about why he why he wasn't playing this year with Cavan.

Just pasted the link from the indo to give people who might have wanted Johnston to stay etc, to have a look at it, thats all.

Good luck to the u21's against Longford.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: s__words on January 18, 2013, 11:34:07 PM
Don't forget that there were a few other lads at the time who also 'weren't wanted' but are now on the county panel.One actually played against SJ last summer, think this tells you all you need to know about SJ's reasons for leaving.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on January 18, 2013, 11:41:07 PM
Quote from: s__words on January 18, 2013, 11:34:07 PM
Don't forget that there were a few other lads at the time who also 'weren't wanted' but are now on the county panel.One actually played against SJ last summer, think this tells you all you need to know about SJ's reasons for leaving.

Sheridan,Mackey,Lyng,Nesty,Cahill and Johnston were the 6 dropped by Andrews, Johnston wouldn't have played against any of them last summer. As none were on the panel.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on January 21, 2013, 12:44:33 AM
So what's the verdict from the loss to Longford? I wasn't at the game so I can't really comment but I can't imagine the U21 team of the past 2 years letting go a 5 point lead with 10 minutes left. Do people think Peter knows his best team? A lot of chopping and changing going on so far. It's early days of course but hopefully the team will learn from this defeat. There's a lot of talent in this team and they will have realistic expectations of another Ulster Final. Need to take it one game at a time though.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on January 21, 2013, 03:58:44 PM
I think it is a good thing that they lost. Imagine if they had won by 5/6 points! Hammering Leitrim and then comfortable wins against Offaly and Longford would have increased the chances of them being complacent against Monaghan. I think Monaghan will be ready to ambush us and that lose might be what is needed to keep us focused on the job at hand.

We seem to have made a lot of subs early in the 2nd half so also maybe part of the problem was giving so many lads a run out? At the end of the day its Ulster we want to win and no one is really too bothered about the Hastings cup.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on January 21, 2013, 04:14:42 PM
A defeat like that can be a wake up call. Cavan were the better side on Saturday, it was only the last 10 minutes when longford got on top. Cavan were 5 ahead and should have been more.

I think Cavan will have a lot stronger team for the Championship game against Monaghan. Gerard Smith, Joe Dillon, Dara Sexton (played well when he came on) will all be in the team or close to it Imo. Turloch Mooney will hopefully have made a full recovery by then, and Conor Moynagh should also be in the reckoning after having surgery on the shoulder Injury.

Jason Mclaughlin was playing against Leitrim so I'd imagine he will be around as well. Be arranged to be flown back.

6 players to come into the side.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: scoopmine on January 21, 2013, 04:38:08 PM
Gerard Smith, Joe Dillon, Turloch Mooney and Connor Moynagh will all hopefully be back come championship and that will make a big difference. Better to lose the Hastings and be tuned in come championship than heads in the sky..
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on January 21, 2013, 04:51:22 PM
Is Mooney in the U21 plans this year as there has been no sign of him yet? How fit can he be if he is not training due to injury?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on January 21, 2013, 05:13:51 PM
Quote from: Itchy on January 21, 2013, 04:51:22 PM
Is Mooney in the U21 plans this year as there has been no sign of him yet? How fit can he be if he is not training due to injury?

Hard to know how fit he can be, Oisn Moynagh didn't play any football at all last year with Redhills through injury and is now back on the Cavan panel.

I'd say Mooney is in the plans alright, but just easing him back. Still 2 months till the Championship game against Monaghan.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: s__words on January 21, 2013, 05:30:40 PM
Posted by: rodney trotter
« on: January 18, 2013, 11:41:07 PM » Insert Quote

Quote from: s__words on January 18, 2013, 11:34:07 PM
Don't forget that there were a few other lads at the time who also 'weren't wanted' but are now on the county panel.One actually played against SJ last summer, think this tells you all you need to know about SJ's reasons for leaving.

Sheridan,Mackey,Lyng,Nesty,Cahill and Johnston were the 6 dropped by Andrews, Johnston wouldn't have played against any of them last summer. As none were on the panel.


I think you'll find it was widely reported at the time that James Reilly was one of the original six who were dropped and not Cahill.I'm only going on what was reported as I don't have any inside knowledge of what went on at the time or who was actually dropped or what they were told.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on January 21, 2013, 05:41:26 PM
Quote from: s__words on January 21, 2013, 05:30:40 PM
Posted by: rodney trotter
« on: January 18, 2013, 11:41:07 PM » Insert Quote

Quote from: s__words on January 18, 2013, 11:34:07 PM
Don't forget that there were a few other lads at the time who also 'weren't wanted' but are now on the county panel.One actually played against SJ last summer, think this tells you all you need to know about SJ's reasons for leaving.

Sheridan,Mackey,Lyng,Nesty,Cahill and Johnston were the 6 dropped by Andrews, Johnston wouldn't have played against any of them last summer. As none were on the panel.


I think you'll find it was widely reported at the time that James Reilly was one of the original six who were dropped and not Cahill.I'm only going on what was reported as I don't have any inside knowledge of what went on at the time or who was actually dropped or what they were told.

Well that just isn't true. James Reilly played in the  National League last year against Wexford. He hadn't been part of the panel until then because of work commitments. Keith Fannin had been Keeper in the McKenna Cup.

Those were the 6 players dropped, I will show you a few newspaper articles as evidence.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on January 21, 2013, 06:13:15 PM
http://hoganstand.com/Cavan/ArticleForm.aspx?ID=157687

I think that's where all the talk of James Reilly being dropped started, which was obviously a mix up as it was clearly Martin Cahill who had been dropped.

Johnston, Cahill, Sheridan,Lyng,Mackey and Nesty were the 6 players dropped and didn't play any football with Cavan in 2012.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on January 21, 2013, 08:26:08 PM
Hopefully this clears it.

http://www.google.ie/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=james%20reill%20back%20on%20cavan%20panel&source=web&cd=6&cad=rja&ved=0CFIQFjAF&url=http%3A%2F%2Fedit.setanta.com%2Fafrica%2FArticles%2F2012%2F02%2F01%2FReilly-back-in-Cavan-fold%2Fgnid-128892%2F&ei=s6P9UPaVEIephAfKxYCoAQ&usg=AFQjCNHmyCATa3EtcoLYqKcaFqhQjPO6CA
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: s__words on January 21, 2013, 11:54:51 PM
OK Rodney,but that link does not say he wasn't dropped. Setanta.com also posted the following
http://edit.setanta.com/ie/Articles/2011/11/09/Andrews-culls-Cavan-squad/gnid-116982/ (http://edit.setanta.com/ie/Articles/2011/11/09/Andrews-culls-Cavan-squad/gnid-116982/)

GAA website also posted after Andrews was shoved that James was as one of the lads he dropped

http://www.gaa.ie/gaa-news-and-videos/daily-news/2/1204121632-andrews-steps-down-as-cavan-boss/1/ (http://www.gaa.ie/gaa-news-and-videos/daily-news/2/1204121632-andrews-steps-down-as-cavan-boss/1/)

The fact is as there's doubt whether Miller was dropped or not, then can we really assume that the others were also dropped . Have you spoken to all players involved and the management? because if not we're therefore relying on third hand information and everyone knows how stories grow legs and lose truth as it transfers from one person to the next.
So was Miller dropped at the time or was he not?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on January 22, 2013, 12:03:19 AM
Quote from: s__words on January 21, 2013, 11:54:51 PM
OK Rodney,but that link does not say he wasn't dropped. Setanta.com also posted the following
http://edit.setanta.com/ie/Articles/2011/11/09/Andrews-culls-Cavan-squad/gnid-116982/ (http://edit.setanta.com/ie/Articles/2011/11/09/Andrews-culls-Cavan-squad/gnid-116982/)

GAA website also posted after Andrews was shoved that James was as one of the lads he dropped

http://www.gaa.ie/gaa-news-and-videos/daily-news/2/1204121632-andrews-steps-down-as-cavan-boss/1/ (http://www.gaa.ie/gaa-news-and-videos/daily-news/2/1204121632-andrews-steps-down-as-cavan-boss/1/)

The fact is as there's doubt whether Miller was dropped or not, then can we really assume that the others were also dropped . Have you spoken to all players involved and the management? because if not we're therefore relying on third hand information and everyone knows how stories grow legs and lose truth as it transfers from one person to the next.
So was Miller dropped at the time or was he not?

Why can you not just let it go... James Reilly left the Cavan panel before because of work bef Commitments before under Tommy Carr. He is a builder and work comes first. He was working in Dublin that time under Andrews and was able to make the commute  down for training 4/5 nights a week , for the few weeks in Januray

What do you think yourself, is it not obvious . Why would he drop him and call him back for the first game in the League, Wise Up.

The others who were actually dropped were never called under Val Andrews. and didn't play for Cavan in 2012.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on January 22, 2013, 12:09:38 AM
Quote from: rodney trotter on January 22, 2013, 12:03:19 AM
Quote from: s__words on January 21, 2013, 11:54:51 PM
OK Rodney,but that link does not say he wasn't dropped. Setanta.com also posted the following
http://edit.setanta.com/ie/Articles/2011/11/09/Andrews-culls-Cavan-squad/gnid-116982/ (http://edit.setanta.com/ie/Articles/2011/11/09/Andrews-culls-Cavan-squad/gnid-116982/)

GAA website also posted after Andrews was shoved that James was as one of the lads he dropped

http://www.gaa.ie/gaa-news-and-videos/daily-news/2/1204121632-andrews-steps-down-as-cavan-boss/1/ (http://www.gaa.ie/gaa-news-and-videos/daily-news/2/1204121632-andrews-steps-down-as-cavan-boss/1/)

The fact is as there's doubt whether Miller was dropped or not, then can we really assume that the others were also dropped . Have you spoken to all players involved and the management? because if not we're therefore relying on third hand information and everyone knows how stories grow legs and lose truth as it transfers from one person to the next.
So was Miller dropped at the time or was he not?

Why can you not just let it go... James Reilly left the Cavan panel before because of work bef Commitments before under Tommy Carr. He is a builder and work comes first. He was working in Dublin that time under Andrews and was NOT able to make the commute  down for training 4/5 nights a week , for the few weeks in Januray

What do you think yourself, is it not obvious . Why would he drop him and call him back for the first game in the League, Wise Up.

The others who were actually dropped were never called under Val Andrews. and didn't play for Cavan in 2012.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on January 22, 2013, 12:16:08 PM
Well there is a point there that s_words has.

Firstly, the whole panel was disbanded and then a new panel was called in of which 6 were not on it from the previous panel. You might say the 6 were dropped or maybe you might say they didn't make the panel for some reason.

6 lads did not make the panel (leaving Miller aside). There is nothing to suggest they were all left off for the same reason. I know for a fact one of them was left of as he wouldn't have been able to commit to it at the correct level - Hyland then asked this guy to come back and he couldn't come back for the same reasons he was left off. I was told another of them was left off to get over recurring injuries. The other 4 I don't know but I assume there were reasons and that Andrews didn't decide to cut off his nose to spite his face. I also don't accept at all that there was no way back for these players either. Andrews was not likely to last either so anyone who upped and left did so for other reasons as I have said before as a new manager would have a different view on things

Anyway - its ancient history

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on January 22, 2013, 01:27:57 PM
Quote from: Itchy on January 22, 2013, 12:16:08 PM
Well there is a point there that s_words has.

Firstly, the whole panel was disbanded and then a new panel was called in of which 6 were not on it from the previous panel. You might say the 6 were dropped or maybe you might say they didn't make the panel for some reason.

6 lads did not make the panel (leaving Miller aside). There is nothing to suggest they were all left off for the same reason. I know for a fact one of them was left of as he wouldn't have been able to commit to it at the correct level - Hyland then asked this guy to come back and he couldn't come back for the same reasons he was left off. I was told another of them was left off to get over recurring injuries. The other 4 I don't know but I assume there were reasons and that Andrews didn't decide to cut off his nose to spite his face. I also don't accept at all that there was no way back for these players either. Andrews was not likely to last either so anyone who upped and left did so for other reasons as I have said before as a new manager would have a different view on things

Anyway - its ancient history



Yeah why do you keep going about it then Itchy, You said I shouldn't have put the topic from the Indo on here and then you are asking why was he not on the Cavan Panel this year?. Get a grip. Just say nothing if you don't like Johnston instead of saying stuff and then contradacting yourself.

The players were dropped get over it. James Reilly wasn't.

Ps. are you actually s_swords because you sound very much like him.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on January 22, 2013, 02:26:46 PM
Cant understand why you guys are even talking about him   :o
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on January 22, 2013, 04:39:30 PM
And the guy Terry Hyland asked back was in May, nothing to do with Val Andrews as he was longer Cavan manager....
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on January 22, 2013, 09:10:23 PM
Whats with the aggressive reply Rodney? First up I am not the same person as s_word. When I asked why Johnson was not playing with Cavan this year it was a rhetorical question, the  point being he doesn't want to play with Cavan anyway and that is his right. I don't dislike Johnson, I don't know him, I never met him and I certainly don't care who he plays for. But in my opinion he left Cavan to find success elsewhere and it had very little to do with being dropped/left of the panel. Thats just my opinion based on the evidence I see - you dont have to agree with me.

You can't drop players from a panel that doesn't exist, I'm being pedantic but it is still a valid point. I tried to explain to you that some of the 6 players were not selected due to injury and inability to commit - not because they were a bad influence or any smear on their character. I know the guy in May was asked in by Hyland and thats my point, he couldnt commit to Cavan then either - hence why he wasn't selected in the first place.

I'm not sure why you are getting so worked up about this. If it helps I'm not going to mention it again as its water under the bridge and I'm looking forward to an improved season with the seniors hopefully
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on January 22, 2013, 09:18:24 PM
Well the replies sound quite a like between yourself aka word for word bewteen you and swords.

There was enough stuff said about Johnston, he is an amatuer player without making up lies etc about players been brought into the panel and playing against him. And you were the one getting worked up in the First place when i post the article from the Independent, so thats a bit hypocriteal.

But water under the bridge.
I
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on January 22, 2013, 09:47:03 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on January 22, 2013, 09:18:24 PM
Well the replies sound quite a like between yourself aka word for word bewteen you and swords.

There was enough stuff said about Johnston, he is an amatuer player without making up lies etc about players been brought into the panel and playing against him. And you were the one getting worked up in the First place when i post the article from the Independent, so thats a bit hypocriteal.

But water under the bridge.
I

Rodney - I am not posting under another name on this site, either accept it or don't thats up to you. Secondly, I did not say Miller was one of the 6 dropped so if you are going to accuse someone of lies at least accuse the correct person.
Trust me, I'm not getting worked up. Life is too short.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on January 22, 2013, 09:50:22 PM
Quote from: Itchy on January 22, 2013, 09:47:03 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on January 22, 2013, 09:18:24 PM
Well the replies sound quite a like between yourself aka word for word bewteen you and swords.

There was enough stuff said about Johnston, he is an amatuer player without making up lies etc about players been brought into the panel and playing against him. And you were the one getting worked up in the First place when i post the article from the Independent, so thats a bit hypocriteal.

But water under the bridge.
I

Rodney - I am not posting under another name on this site, either accept it or don't thats up to you. Secondly, I did not say Miller was one of the 6 dropped so if you are going to accuse someone of lies at least accuse the correct person.
Trust me, I'm not getting worked up. Life is too short.

Fair enough, I was referring to swords when he siad that about Miller i know you didn't say it. Thats the end of it.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on January 22, 2013, 10:11:48 PM
Quote from: Itchy on January 22, 2013, 09:10:23 PM
Whats with the aggressive reply Rodney? First up I am not the same person as s_word. When I asked why Johnson was not playing with Cavan this year it was a rhetorical question, the  point being he doesn't want to play with Cavan anyway and that is his right. I don't dislike Johnson, I don't know him, I never met him and I certainly don't care who he plays for. But in my opinion he left Cavan to find success elsewhere and it had very little to do with being dropped/left of the panel. Thats just my opinion based on the evidence I see - you dont have to agree with me.

You can't drop players from a panel that doesn't exist, I'm being pedantic but it is still a valid point. I tried to explain to you that some of the 6 players were not selected due to injury and inability to commit - not because they were a bad influence or any smear on their character. I know the guy in May was asked in by Hyland and thats my point, he couldnt commit to Cavan then either - hence why he wasn't selected in the first place.

I'm not sure why you are getting so worked up about this. If it helps I'm not going to mention it again as its water under the bridge and I'm looking forward to an improved season with the seniors hopefully

Eh yes you can, and thats what Dublin did this year, Eamonn Fennell was told he wasn't going to be needed among 6 or 7 others.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: s__words on January 23, 2013, 01:52:09 AM
Firstly Rodney,I don't know Itchy and secondly you called me a liar when I said "I think you'll find it was widely reported at the time that James Reilly was one of the original six ", You said you'd show me newspaper articles to prove I was wrong,you didn't , but I showed you where it was reported that he was dropped.I honestly thought at the time that he was dropped,but then you come along call me a liar and failed to show that he wasn't dropped.
Then you assumed I was someone else(Itchy) and attack him!!! Did you ever hear the saying ass/u/me makes an ass ut of u and me.

As far I'm concerned  SJ or any other player are entitled to play where they like (club or county) as long as its within the rules of the GAA,but I still believe the main reason he left was to gain success and not "just to play football"


Also cast your mind back to this conversation 
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tommysmith

Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
November 17, 2011, 09:34:29 AM »Sam you do know that Miller is still with Cavan and what is to say the other lads are not either.  A couple of fruit cakes on Hoganstand are causing all these rumours

rodney trotter

Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
« Reply #10460 on: November 17, 2011, 12:52:46 PM »It was in the Celt tommy not just on hoganstand about them players being dropped..

when Tommysmith stated that Miller wasn't dropped you replied that "It was in the Celt tommy not just on hoganstand about them players being dropped.." now as I recall in both the Celt and the Hoganstand Miller was named as one of the six.

You still calling me a liar, I don't really care as I reckon I don't need to reply to you again on this subject.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on January 23, 2013, 02:01:15 AM
Quote from: s__words on January 23, 2013, 01:52:09 AM
Firstly Rodney,I don't know Itchy and secondly you called me a liar when I said "I think you'll find it was widely reported at the time that James Reilly was one of the original six ", You said you'd show me newspaper articles to prove I was wrong,you didn't , but I showed you where it was reported that he was dropped.I honestly thought at the time that he was dropped,but then you come along call me a liar and failed to show that he wasn't dropped.
Then you assumed I was someone else(Itchy) and attack him!!! Did you ever hear the saying ass/u/me makes an ass ut of u and me.

As far I'm concerned  SJ or any other player are entitled to play where they like (club or county) as long as its within the rules of the GAA,but I still believe the main reason he left was to gain success and not "just to play football"


Also cast your mind back to this conversation 
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tommysmith

Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
November 17, 2011, 09:34:29 AM »Sam you do know that Miller is still with Cavan and what is to say the other lads are not either.  A couple of fruit cakes on Hoganstand are causing all these rumours

rodney trotter

Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
« Reply #10460 on: November 17, 2011, 12:52:46 PM »It was in the Celt tommy not just on hoganstand about them players being dropped..

when Tommysmith stated that Miller wasn't dropped you replied that "It was in the Celt tommy not just on hoganstand about them players being dropped.." now as I recall in both the Celt and the Hoganstand Miller was named as one of the six.

You still calling me a liar, I don't really care as I reckon I don't need to reply to you again on this subject.



Yes in was in the Celt at the time but was since noticed that it was a mistake, Anyway sorry for ever pasting the link now (all the stress it has caused) , liar thing was probaly taking out of contest - so sorry .
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on January 23, 2013, 12:55:16 PM
Quote from: s__words on January 23, 2013, 01:52:09 AM
Firstly Rodney,I don't know Itchy and secondly you called me a liar when I said "I think you'll find it was widely reported at the time that James Reilly was one of the original six ", You said you'd show me newspaper articles to prove I was wrong,you didn't , but I showed you where it was reported that he was dropped.I honestly thought at the time that he was dropped,but then you come along call me a liar and failed to show that he wasn't dropped.
Then you assumed I was someone else(Itchy) and attack him!!! Did you ever hear the saying ass/u/me makes an ass ut of u and me.

As far I'm concerned  SJ or any other player are entitled to play where they like (club or county) as long as its within the rules of the GAA,but I still believe the main reason he left was to gain success and not "just to play football"


Also cast your mind back to this conversation 
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tommysmith

Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
November 17, 2011, 09:34:29 AM »Sam you do know that Miller is still with Cavan and what is to say the other lads are not either.  A couple of fruit cakes on Hoganstand are causing all these rumours

rodney trotter

Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
« Reply #10460 on: November 17, 2011, 12:52:46 PM »It was in the Celt tommy not just on hoganstand about them players being dropped..

when Tommysmith stated that Miller wasn't dropped you replied that "It was in the Celt tommy not just on hoganstand about them players being dropped.." now as I recall in both the Celt and the Hoganstand Miller was named as one of the six.

You still calling me a liar, I don't really care as I reckon I don't need to reply to you again on this subject.


And if you take the time and look at my link again from Setanta it was when it was known that it was a mix up, the link you showed up is the same as Hoganstand a rumour which wasn't true. Thats why I pasted the link where he couldn't commit. Pretty obvious.

And the link you showed from the GAA site  after Andews left, only gave a few players were mentioned not even the 6 ,
and it mentioned Reilly as that what was believed at the time of the whole Cut from the panel , through Hoganstand, Setanata etc. When it was later revealed James Reilly wasn't dropped. But they were just going on that information so if you couldn't understand  that then sorry.

He gave an interview in the Celt which i cant find about working in Dublin. Maybe you will have better luck than me and you will find  it.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on January 23, 2013, 04:56:32 PM
Beyond stupidity to think somebody would be dropped with all the media spot light knowing and then be back on the team for the first   League game. That is defeating the whole purpose of dropping a player.

That's like Eamonn Fennall starting midfield for Dublin in the first Round of the National League, when he was dropped in November.
Andews did lots of daft things but he didn't do that. There was a panel for the McKenna Cup which obviously he wasn't able to play in. And that changed for the League,
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on January 23, 2013, 05:23:26 PM
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Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on January 23, 2013, 10:01:02 PM
Lads please, please for the sake of the sanity of forum regulars, just stop talking about that saga.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on January 23, 2013, 10:15:53 PM
The more I think about it the more this antrim game sticks out as being critical for us. Anyone have any news on Keating and Givney and Rory Dunne. We could really do with them back in the team for that game.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on January 23, 2013, 10:22:47 PM
Quote from: Westside on January 23, 2013, 10:01:02 PM
Lads please, please for the sake of the sanity of forum regulars, just stop talking about that saga.

well i was trying too anyway.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on January 25, 2013, 04:52:21 PM
Cavan Minor League 2013
Division 1

Erne Gaels
St. Felim's
St. Oliver Plunket's
Ramor Utd
Templeport
Laragh Utd
Crosserlough
Bailieborough

Division 2

O Raghallagh Gaels
Ballyhaise
Drumlane
Castlerahan
West Cavan Gaels
Denn
Southern Gaels

Division 3

St Joseph's
Ballymachugh
Mullahoran
Lavey
Cootehill
Blackwater Gaels

Division 4

Drumalee
Knockbride
Drumgoon
Killinkere
St Finbarr's
Cuchulainns
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on January 25, 2013, 09:55:08 PM
Itchy and Swords i will just clear this , I thought you were the same person as you were both asking Ridiculous questions on the Johnston topic.
Swords you should be able to see common sense. Posting a link from Setanta which was the exact same as mine from Hoganstand
- the Gaa link was just a follow up from the untrue stuff from Hoganstand and Setanta. Obvious. I couldn't find a article so i presumed Setanta would be enough for ya.(it was mentioned in the celt and then it the revealed he wasn't dropped)

Anyway that the end of it. Up Cavan.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Cavanboy on January 26, 2013, 11:55:21 AM
R.I.P. Det Garda Adrian Donohoe. Former cavan u21 and minor player. Deepest sympathies to his family and friends.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on January 26, 2013, 12:20:05 PM
Quote from: Cavanboy on January 26, 2013, 11:55:21 AM
R.I.P. Det Garda Adrian Donohoe. Former cavan u21 and minor player. Deepest sympathies to his family and friends.

+1.


Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on January 27, 2013, 05:05:55 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on January 25, 2013, 09:55:08 PM
Itchy and Swords i will just clear this , I thought you were the same person as you were both asking Ridiculous questions on the Johnston topic.
Swords you should be able to see common sense. Posting a link from Setanta which was the exact same as mine from Hoganstand
- the Gaa link was just a follow up from the untrue stuff from Hoganstand and Setanta. Obvious. I couldn't find a article so i presumed Setanta would be enough for ya.(it was mentioned in the celt and then it the revealed he wasn't dropped)

Anyway that the end of it. Up Cavan.

Good man Rodney - still fighting the good fight I see.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on January 27, 2013, 05:13:08 PM
Indeed Myles, as opposed to you talking a load of shite. Good to see you back.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on January 27, 2013, 10:01:38 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on January 27, 2013, 05:13:08 PM
Indeed Myles, as opposed to you talking a load of shite. Good to see you back.

:-*
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on January 28, 2013, 04:21:23 PM
Quote from: Cavanboy on January 26, 2013, 11:55:21 AM
R.I.P. Det Garda Adrian Donohoe. Former cavan u21 and minor player. Deepest sympathies to his family and friends.

Hard to stomach for 4000 euros?

The funeral arrangements for Garda Adrian Donohoe have been released.

Reposing at his home from 12 noon until 6pm on Tuesday (29th January).(HOUSE PRIVATE PLEASE AT ALL OTHER TIMES).
The removal will take place on Wednesday (30th January) to St. Joseph's Redemptorist Church, arriving for Mass at 12.30pm.
Funeral afterwards to Lordship Cemetery.

Ar dheis De go raibh a anam
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: scoopmine on January 30, 2013, 11:31:16 AM
Just want to add R.I.P. to Det Garda Adrian Donohoe...

Best off luck to the lads at the weekend. A good start is key. Hopefully all the injured players are back. Anyone know the lads that were playing Sigerson this week?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on January 30, 2013, 12:32:30 PM
Quote from: scoopmine on January 30, 2013, 11:31:16 AM
Just want to add R.I.P. to Det Garda Adrian Donohoe...

Best off luck to the lads at the weekend. A good start is key. Hopefully all the injured players are back. Anyone know the lads that were playing Sigerson this week?

Killian Clarke was playing with Athlone who beat Carlow IT, Niall Murray and Josh Hayes were playing with UCD. Simon Cadden is also on that panel,  James Farrelly was in in goals for DCU against UL but Jack Brady didn't feature.
Paul O Connor, David Hyland,  Damian Mckiernan lacken were involved for Sligo against Maynooth. Eugune Keating wasn't playing through Injury.
Few other games were postponed, Killian Moynagh older brother of Conor, is Corner back with NUI.
DIT have Martin Reilly, David Givney, Ross Sheridan - Killygarry, Stephen Cooney - Castlerahan, and Connor Martin from Lavey.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: scoopmine on January 30, 2013, 02:09:18 PM
Good to see Martin Reilly back always thought he had the skill for intercounty if he bulked up abit. He was gone for a year. I didn' see him play any McKenna Cup action. Is he one the panel? He could be an option for frees which was being debated by lads on the hoganstand!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on January 30, 2013, 02:19:36 PM
Quote from: scoopmine on January 30, 2013, 02:09:18 PM
Good to see Martin Reilly back always thought he had the skill for intercounty if he bulked up abit. He was gone for a year. I didn' see him play any McKenna Cup action. Is he one the panel? He could be an option for frees which was being debated by lads on the hoganstand!

Yeah he did the cruciate ligament 2 years ago and took a while to recover. He is on the panel. He played in the Ryan Cup final with DIT but don't think he has played in the O Byrne Cup, must have picked up a knock.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanforever on January 30, 2013, 06:46:38 PM
Jack Brady was playing for DCU at centre back bit rare I must say though. Martin Reilly I believe is fully fit, he didnt play o byrne cup or mckenna cup due to exams so I heard
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on January 31, 2013, 10:46:40 PM
Cavan manager Terry Hyland has named his team to face Antrim in Sunday's NFL opener.

There are no huge surprises, with Denn's Tomas Corr - expected to start at midfield - missing out through injury. As revealed in this week's Anglo-Celt, Rory Dunne starts at full-back, five years exactly since he made his NFL debut against Armagh under Donal Keogan.

A number of players discarded by Val Andrews, including Alan Clarke, Cian Mackey and John McCutcheon, take their places.

Damien O'Reilly, listed at corner-forward, could line out at midfield to free David Givney to operate closer to goal, the Celt understands.

CAVAN: James Reilly (Drung), Oisin Minagh (Redhills), Dunne (Redhills), Damien Barkey (Ramor United), Padraic O'Reilly (Ballinagh), Alan Clarke (Kingscourt), John McCutcheon (Cootehill), Gearoid McKiernan (Swanlinbar), David Givney (Mountnugent), Cian Mackey (Castlerahan), Martin Reilly (Killygary), Damien O'Reilly (Belturbet), Mark McKeever (Gowna), Martin Dunne (Cavan Gaels), Niall McDermott (Ballinagh).
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on January 31, 2013, 11:16:27 PM
Happy enough with the team but I think we will struggle to get the scores. Good to see Dunne, Givney and Martin Reilly back in there. Corr will be a loss for the bit if strength. I think we can win this game.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on February 01, 2013, 01:45:20 AM
I don't think I'd like to see Damien Reilly at midfield.. But if Givney is only back from injury he may not be able for a full game in the center. Corr is a loss, he would jump into a cement mixer after a ball, not the most skillful but by God does he have tenacity.
I think Terry will want the team to make it very difficult for Antrim to get scores and hope we can do just enough up front to beat them, we won't be involved in any shootouts this year I would imagine!

I think it's very hard to call how this will go, we've been optimistic after McKenna Cup campaigns before, we've thought we had turned corners before, we've put huge emphasis on getting an opening win before and we've seen all that fall apart very very fast. Getting a win in Belfast is not an easy thing to ask of any side and we saw what they did to us in the final game of the league last year..
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on February 01, 2013, 03:45:19 PM
I don't think Cavan would have got such a thumping from Kildare last July if there was more experience in the defence. Don't think we would have beaten Kildare or anything like that, but I think it might have been more competitive. It was clear as day that a few players that started that day weren't fully ready for Senior Football.

John McCutcheon, Alan Clarke, Damian Barkey, are all very consistent players at Club level. Rory Dunne is a very good full back and has been very unfortunate with injuries in the last 2 years, and Oisin Moynagh was injured last year too. 5 out of the 6 from defence  that will play Antrim,weren't playing against Kildare.

Hopefully Cavan can get a result Sunday, McKeever will probaly drop back in the half forward line, with a 2 man ff line of Dunne and McDermott. It will be far from easy. Keating is a loss as a target man, I think McDermott is capable of upping his performance.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on February 01, 2013, 04:18:28 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on February 01, 2013, 03:45:19 PM
I don't think Cavan would have got such a thumping from Kildare last July if there was more experience in the defence. Don't think we would have beaten Kildare or anything like that, but I think it might have been more competitive. It was clear as day that a few players that started that day weren't fully ready for Senior Football.

John McCutcheon, Alan Clarke, Damian Barkey, are all very consistent players at Club level. Rory Dunne is a very good full back and has been very unfortunate with injuries in the last 2 years, and Oisin Moynagh was injured last year too. 5 out of the 6 from defence  that will play Antrim,weren't playing against Kildare.

Hopefully Cavan can get a result Sunday, McKeever will probaly drop back in the half forward line, with a 2 man ff line of Dunne and McDermott. It will be far from easy. Keating is a loss as a target man, I think McDermott is capable of upping his performance.

He needs to we have to have more of a scoring threat in the forwards, keating is big loss i wonder will Givney go inside anyway.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on February 01, 2013, 04:33:22 PM
Yeah not sure if that team will be as selected, Corr might yet start. Givney would be a great player in the full forward line, he was tried there with Keating in the Fiztsimons Cup before Christmass.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on February 01, 2013, 04:41:36 PM
What other midfielder or player capable of playing midfield on panel other than declan mckiernan?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on February 01, 2013, 04:44:06 PM
John McCucheon plays midfield with Cootehill, probaly his best position.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on February 01, 2013, 06:19:54 PM
I'm really not sure about playing Givney inside. I would be afraid it would just turn our game plan into us hoofing the ball in on top of him, once the Antrim defence becomes wise to it they'll put the shackles on him.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on February 01, 2013, 06:23:28 PM
http://anglocelt.ie/sport/gaelicfootball/articles/2013/01/31/4014184-mostly-football-its-not-make-or-break-but-league-opener-will-tell-a-talebr/

Hannon's view on what will happen. Givney played on the edge of the square v Dr. Crokes I see. It would be strange then if he didn't line out in the same position v Antrim
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on February 02, 2013, 05:27:21 PM
Quote from: Westside on February 01, 2013, 06:19:54 PM
I'm really not sure about playing Givney inside. I would be afraid it would just turn our game plan into us hoofing the ball in on top of him, once the Antrim defence becomes wise to it they'll put the shackles on him.

It would suit a player like Martin Dunne to feed off Giveny. Givney is around 6f 3 a great fielder and can score. Cavan need somebody in there since Keatingh is injured.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on February 03, 2013, 05:23:40 AM
Good luck to all against Antrim. Fingers crossed we get off to a good start, not just for the league and season in general but because for Hyland's project in the wider sense. The championship was a honeymoon period for all concerned, now the team needs to make some sort of moves.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on February 03, 2013, 01:41:27 PM
Clarke starts instead of Barkey.. Odd decision.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on February 03, 2013, 03:38:05 PM
Lost by 2, bad start to the year, it was a tough fixture but they are all tough this year. Disappointing to see Clarke and Jack out there, especially after Terry specifically said he wouldn't be playing U21s. I think we'll find it very difficult to stay up now.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on February 03, 2013, 03:48:05 PM
Monaghan beat Meath 1-18 to 2-3, they will be high on confidence next week.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on February 03, 2013, 04:01:20 PM
Poor start. Monaghan is a must win next week. I don't want to hear any more excuses about "youth" and "team-building " and all that other bollox that has been repeated constantly for the last 18 months  coming from the camp. We need to see a big improvement starting next week.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on February 03, 2013, 04:43:42 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on February 03, 2013, 04:01:20 PM
Poor start. Monaghan is a must win next week. I don't want to hear any more excuses about "youth" and "team-building " and all that other bollox that has been repeated constantly for the last 18 months  coming from the camp. We need to see a big improvement starting next week.

I'd be afraid of a hammering next weekend.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on February 03, 2013, 07:45:56 PM
Eugene Keating was the only regular missing,along with Ronan Flanagan. But Ronans form wasn't great last year with Cavan, didn't help being switched about a lot, to playing corner back for a few  games in the League to starting Centre Forward in the Championship against Donegal.

Antrims were missing 4 regulars. Including Tomas McCann who is probaly their best forward. Givney will have to start at midfield next week, target man role didn't work that well. Monaghan are strong at midfield with Dick Clerkin and Eoin Lennon, Cavan can't afford to be cleaned out again in the middle.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on February 03, 2013, 10:10:04 PM
Quote from: tommysmith on February 03, 2013, 04:43:42 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on February 03, 2013, 04:01:20 PM
Poor start. Monaghan is a must win next week. I don't want to hear any more excuses about "youth" and "team-building " and all that other bollox that has been repeated constantly for the last 18 months  coming from the camp. We need to see a big improvement starting next week.

I'd be afraid of a hammering next weekend.

By all accounts Meath were abysmal today, I wouldn't be terrified of the Mushroom pickers due to their win today.
There are no excuses anymore,We have to start winning and anything less than a win against Monaghan and this season will have turned into complete clusterfuck already and its only February.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on February 03, 2013, 10:13:15 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on February 03, 2013, 07:45:56 PM
Eugene Keating was the only regular missing,along with Ronan Flanagan. But Ronans form wasn't great last year with Cavan, didn't help being switched about a lot, to playing corner back for a few  games in the League to starting Centre Forward in the Championship against Donegal.

Antrims were missing 4 regulars. Including Tomas McCann who is probaly their best forward. Givney will have to start at midfield next week, target man role didn't work that well. Monaghan are strong at midfield with Dick Clerkin and Eoin Lennon, Cavan can't afford to be cleaned out again in the middle.

Who started midfield with McKiernan today? Did Corr start?
Personally i reckon Jack Brady/Eugene Keating/Niall Smith/Barry Reily and perhaps Kevin Tierney will all come into that team once they become available.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on February 03, 2013, 10:47:12 PM
I think it was Pauric Reilly who started at midield, he had to go off injured and was replaced by Corr,

Barry Reilly, Tierney and Jack Brady will all give a bigger scoring threat. Pity Barry and Kevin are injured.
I think they are using the u21's this year as they choose not too in the last 3 years and it probaly cost them

Cavan isn't like Dublin, they need whatever players are available, if they are to make any progress in the League.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on February 03, 2013, 11:29:48 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on February 03, 2013, 10:47:12 PM

I think they are using the u21's this year as they choose not too in the last 3 years and it probaly cost them

It sure did cost them in the last few years and a few of them are needed, but i don't think Hyland is being fair on Peter Reilly either.

Edit: Peter might be happy enough for the lads to have a few games with the seniors , but it was him that didnt want them doing that when he was in charge.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on February 04, 2013, 12:00:10 AM
I'm sure Peter will be happy for them to play in the first few rounds. The Monaghan under 21 game is still 5/6 weeks away isn't it?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on February 04, 2013, 12:07:07 AM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on February 04, 2013, 12:00:10 AM
I'm sure Peter will be happy for them to play in the first few rounds. The Monaghan under 21 game is still 5/6 weeks away isn't it?

Yeah its the 20th March.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on February 04, 2013, 01:43:59 PM
It was a very disappointing result yesterday and puts the team under pressure now with a really difficult game against Monaghan coming up however lets not lose the run of ourselves. We need to take stock that we were in the bottom 3 of Div 3 last year, got hammered by Donegal and Kildare in the championship and a few others in the league. We have no god given right to be beating Antrim or anyone else. It is going to take time to come right and that is the hard reality of it.

If I was Hyland I'd tweak a couple of things right away. Take Givney out of FF and put him in the middle with Corr. Put McKiernan Ctr Forward. Put Dunne and McDermot in the FF line and start Declan McKiernan in there too. Give primary responsibility to one of our half forwards to get up in support. Our blanket defence will not win us anything and is not our natural game so we need to tweak it to be more adventurous. We need to spread the scores and especially we need our half forwards doing some scoring. If we are to be defensive we need to counter with high speed and power, we are not doing that.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: packiedevlin on February 04, 2013, 02:13:29 PM
Damien Reilly started at midfield yesterday. Podge came off injured, any idea how bad the injury is? Corr came on for him and was completely anonymous.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on February 04, 2013, 05:31:23 PM
A player like Ray Cullivan, he has left the panel in the past. But he great strenght to break a tackle. Cavan are lacking players like him in the forwards. Mark McKeever wouldn't be lacking for strenght and Cian Mackey is a lot stronger than 2/3 years ago. Maybe the other forwards have the skil;, but not the confidence  or the power to break a tackle.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on February 04, 2013, 08:30:40 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on February 04, 2013, 08:15:55 PM
Quote from: tommysmith on February 03, 2013, 11:29:48 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on February 03, 2013, 10:47:12 PM

I think they are using the u21's this year as they choose not too in the last 3 years and it probaly cost them

It sure did cost them in the last few years and a few of them are needed, but i don't think Hyland is being fair on Peter Reilly either.

Edit: Peter might be happy enough for the lads to have a few games with the seniors , but it was him that didnt want them doing that when he was in charge.


That is true, although Georid McKiernan Niall McDermott and Niall Murray played against Louth in 2011 and played against Tyrone in the Ulster Final 2 weeks  later. The fact that it went to the final game of the league last year, and it needed Tipp to beat Offaly to keep Cavan up, showed Cavan needed to be at full strenght during the League.

Jack Brady is probaly the only u21 at the minute I would have starting. Not sure about Killian Clarke yet.
Turloch Moooney if he was fit would probaly be on the team., Connor Moynagh,Dara Sextona nd,Conroy would be worth having on the panel too.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on February 04, 2013, 09:09:46 PM
If we are not at full strength or very close to it it will end up in relegation.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on February 06, 2013, 11:41:58 AM
I see the celt has posted comments from posters  here and the hoganstand about last weeks match.

I dont think things said by headcases like rodney should be posted in the local papers.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on February 06, 2013, 12:02:42 PM
What did i say, i was just giving my opinion. Nothing against anyone on the Cavan panel, they are all working hard. Not against Mossy Corr either if it sounded like i did.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on February 06, 2013, 12:17:27 PM
gaaboards.ie - there is worse things said on there about the Antrim game. i be postive about Cavan football most of the time., not against the young players, they mightn't be fully developed yet as they are still young.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on February 06, 2013, 12:35:41 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on February 06, 2013, 12:02:42 PM
What did i say, i was just giving my opinion. Nothing against anyone on the Cavan panel, they are all working hard. Not against Mossy Corr either if it sounded like i did.

QuoteAntrims were missing 4 regulars. Including Tomas McCann who is probaly their best forward. Givney will have to start at midfield next week, target man role didn't work that well. Monaghan are strong at midfield with Dick Clerkin and Eoin Lennon, Cavan can't afford to be cleaned out again in the middle.

Just that Rodney.


On another note Cullivans transfer to Lavey is passed.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on February 06, 2013, 12:41:07 PM
Tommy with all due respect i was just stating Antrim were missing key  players. we were missing keating, and barry reilly, tierney were injured. I forgot to mention them Reilly and Tierney initially

That shouldn't even be in the Celt, We started Giveny full forward and it didn't work. Don't see what the problem is. I'm behind the team
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on February 06, 2013, 12:51:26 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on February 06, 2013, 12:46:18 PM
From reading Hoganstand we were going to hammer hoganstand, I was just stating that they were missing a few key players too. I don't see what the problem is.

Being a headcase for saying that, is ott.

I was just looking for a reaction from you and i didn't get it, well done you handled it well  :)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on February 06, 2013, 12:53:57 PM
Quote from: tommysmith on February 03, 2013, 11:29:48 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on February 03, 2013, 10:47:12 PM

I think they are using the u21's this year as they choose not too in the last 3 years and it probaly cost them

It sure did cost them in the last few years and a few of them are needed, but i don't think Hyland is being fair on Peter Reilly either.

Edit: Peter might be happy enough for the lads to have a few games with the seniors , but it was him that didnt want them doing that when he was in charge.

Maybe we can have that in next weeks Celt. An agenda against Terry ;)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on February 06, 2013, 12:59:08 PM
Well the last time the celt posted stuff from internet forums it wasn't long after that the then manger got the boot (was treated so bad he had to leave).

It's an interesting angle for the Celt to be taking and its lazy journalism as they should really be asking peoples opinions outsides the grounds or around the towns of the county.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on February 06, 2013, 01:06:02 PM
I'm a big fan of The Celt and of Paul Fitzpatrick but writing comments from here and Hoganstand regarding the match? Were they stuck for space to fill?

Someone on HS put it perfectly for me, after every loss we try to reinvent the wheel. Anyone with any sense knew the Antrim game was going to be tough and we were slight underdogs especially in Casement. Had we been awarded that penalty at the end and nicked a win, you can imagine how high spirits would be, people would be raving about promotion and a new era. Instead we lost and have the usual rush of people calling for different faces on the panel and questioning management.

Each game in the Division is going to be extremely difficult, what we need to do is focus on one game at a time and learn from our mistakes and hopefully scrape together enough points to survive. The majority of the squad are a few years away from their peak years yet. We are building our stable base of committed and talented lads that are accumulating a base of intercounty experience. They don't have much of that sort of player surrounding themselves at the minute but hopefully they will be providing that to more Cavan talent coming through in a few years time.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on February 06, 2013, 01:07:30 PM
Quote from: tommysmith on February 06, 2013, 12:59:08 PM
Well the last time the celt posted stuff from internet forums it wasn't long after that the then manger got the boot (was treated so bad he had to leave).

It's an interesting angle for the Celt to be taking and its lazy journalism as they should really be asking peoples opinions outsides the grounds or around the towns of the county.


RichieJ might come out of the woodwork. I don't see what i said should have been published in the Celt, it was known before the game Antrim were missing players , hardly ground breaking news.

And being cleaned out of midfield sure thats just an opinion, don't know why it should be highlited.
Hoganstand and here are for discussing football, if we all had the same opinion it would be boring, but I don't think becuase a remark after the first league game should make the Celt.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on February 06, 2013, 01:35:07 PM
What's the big deal, its in the celt or its on here. Makes no difference as anyone can read in either place. No harm printing peoples opinions. Its only one game, a win against Monaghan would really lift things again.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: packiedevlin on February 06, 2013, 01:53:23 PM
Well said Westside!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on February 06, 2013, 01:55:05 PM
Quote from: Itchy on February 06, 2013, 01:35:07 PM
What's the big deal, its in the celt or its on here. Makes no difference as anyone can read in either place. No harm printing peoples opinions. Its only one game, a win against Monaghan would really lift things again.

The point is a paper like the Celt should not be quoting what faceless posters on a internet forum have to say.    It is not like  twitter where people have accounts under there own name.  They should be getting their own quotes

It's similar to postings that lunatic's richiej's letter a year or so back.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on February 06, 2013, 02:08:18 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on February 06, 2013, 12:17:27 PM
gaaboards.ie - there is worse things said on there about the Antrim game. i be postive about Cavan football most of the time., not against the young players, they mightn't be fully developed yet as they are still young.

Is that what was "quoted from here" ?

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on February 06, 2013, 02:36:56 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on February 06, 2013, 02:08:18 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on February 06, 2013, 12:17:27 PM
gaaboards.ie - there is worse things said on there about the Antrim game. i be postive about Cavan football most of the time., not against the young players, they mightn't be fully developed yet as they are still young.

Is that what was "quoted from here" ?

I haven't looked at the Celt, but don't think so. Hoganstand and here.

With all the stuff that went on last year with Val Andrews, there was stuff from Hoganstand posted in the Celt last year, I thought they would have more sense and not put pressure on Terry Hyland by doing the same again.

Posting things like i said in the Celt makes out supporters have an agenda against Terry Hyland, Anthony Forde etc and putting added pressure.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on February 06, 2013, 03:10:41 PM
From here they posted Rodneys post which is quoted above by me, and what Bhman posted about now more excuses and youth and team building etc.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on February 06, 2013, 04:35:44 PM
Rodney to be fair I don't think there is anything inherently wrong in The Celt quoting from here, it's all in the public domain, anyone capable of reading The Celt is equally as capable of coming on here and looking at this thread.

My problem with it is the poor effort at journalism that it represents and the fact that it gives the impression (as Val did last year giving out about forums) that what we say on here matters at all. I enjoy coming on here and writing and reading opinions and small bits of information that I might not hear otherwise but I'm also very aware that it's easy to log on here on a Sunday evening and give an "opinion" on a game that I might not even have bothered to attend. This is a faceless community with no accountability for what we say and we should be treated as such. There are a panel of lads and management putting in huge amounts of effort and the very least The Celt should be doing is talking to people that actually attended the game and not those who followed the game on twitter (as I did) and logged on here to comment.

If they really wanted public opinion then go on Twitter where whatever is said is fair game and in the public domain with a name behind whatever is said.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on February 06, 2013, 04:59:45 PM
Quote from: Westside on February 06, 2013, 04:35:44 PM
My problem with it is the poor effort at journalism that it represents and the fact that it gives the impression (as Val did last year giving out about forums) that what we say on here matters at all. I enjoy coming on here and writing and reading opinions and small bits of information that I might not hear otherwise but I'm also very aware that it's easy to log on here on a Sunday evening and give an "opinion" on a game that I might not even have bothered to attend. This is a faceless community with no accountability for what we say and we should be treated as such. There are a panel of lads and management putting in huge amounts of effort and the very least The Celt should be doing is talking to people that actually attended the game and not those who followed the game on twitter (as I did) and logged on here to comment.


That sums it up nicely.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on February 06, 2013, 05:24:22 PM
Quote from: Westside on February 06, 2013, 04:35:44 PM
Rodney to be fair I don't think there is anything inherently wrong in The Celt quoting from here, it's all in the public domain, anyone capable of reading The Celt is equally as capable of coming on here and looking at this thread.

My problem with it is the poor effort at journalism that it represents and the fact that it gives the impression (as Val did last year giving out about forums) that what we say on here matters at all. I enjoy coming on here and writing and reading opinions and small bits of information that I might not hear otherwise but I'm also very aware that it's easy to log on here on a Sunday evening and give an "opinion" on a game that I might not even have bothered to attend. This is a faceless community with no accountability for what we say and we should be treated as such. There are a panel of lads and management putting in huge amounts of effort and the very least The Celt should be doing is talking to people that actually attended the game and not those who followed the game on twitter (as I did) and logged on here to comment.

If they really wanted public opinion then go on Twitter where whatever is said is fair game and in the public domain with a name behind whatever is said.

Well that is what I was talking about Westside. Anybody can read this fourm,obviously. But it shouldn't be our opinions being highlighted. We are just regular (faceless) fans, copying things from here onto the Celt makes it look like we are against Terry Hyland and his regime.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on February 06, 2013, 05:27:55 PM
Moving on from celt gate, i see the betting for saturday evenings game.

Cavan 6/4  Monaghan 4/6

I think that is easy money if you back against Cavan i just can't see us being good enough to beat Monaghan.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on February 06, 2013, 05:53:39 PM
4/6 does seem like buying money. Monaghan have a much stronger side than us.

Can't bring myself to bet against us though...
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on February 06, 2013, 06:05:29 PM
Are ye all attending the game Saturday, or be following via twitter?.. I will be there anyway, other than Meath, Monaghan would be the biggest rivalry with Cavan.

Darren Hughes at centre half is a brillant footballer, if he was somehow stopped from making his surging runs, Cavan would have a chance. His brother Kieran is a good player at corner forward and Connor McManus at full forward.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on February 06, 2013, 06:14:24 PM
I will be watching a live stream.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on February 06, 2013, 06:26:22 PM
Quote from: tommysmith on February 06, 2013, 06:14:24 PM
I will be watching a live stream.

Will there be one?? If so I'd really appreciate if you could send one on to me. Working Saturday so won't get home.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on February 06, 2013, 06:40:11 PM
Quote from: Westside on February 06, 2013, 06:26:22 PM
Quote from: tommysmith on February 06, 2013, 06:14:24 PM
I will be watching a live stream.

Will there be one?? If so I'd really appreciate if you could send one on to me. Working Saturday so won't get home.

Sorry i said that as a joke but i seen on the Cavan gaa section on boards that the Antrim Game was streamed.

If i find a link i will let you know.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on February 06, 2013, 06:41:04 PM
f**k Monaghan, and you can quote me on that Celt.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on February 07, 2013, 10:48:14 AM
Any word on team yet lads?

Looks like we are getting no inside information here anymore.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Home of the champs on February 07, 2013, 02:37:23 PM
When does Cavan club football kick off??
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on February 07, 2013, 03:54:32 PM
Quote from: Home of the champs on February 07, 2013, 02:37:23 PM
When does Cavan club football kick off??

Sunday week.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on February 08, 2013, 01:23:55 PM
I see Jack Brady is playing at center back for DCU. Odd place to have him.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on February 08, 2013, 01:51:07 PM
Quote from: Itchy on February 06, 2013, 06:41:04 PM
f**k Monaghan, and you can quote me on that Celt.

Indeed! :D

We can only hope that the lads go out and raise their game for Monaghan as the idea of losing to them makes me sick almost as sick as losing to Meath but certainly more sick than losing to Fermanagh (which is quite a high level of sickness in any case).
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on February 08, 2013, 04:24:14 PM
Come on lads.

Let's do it for Myle's continued health!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on February 08, 2013, 08:54:34 PM
A number of injuries have forced Cavan manager Terry Hyland's hand in selecting his team for this weekend's Allianz NFL div 3 rd 2 tie with neighbours Monaghan. Regular custodian James Reilly and 2012 captain Padraic Reilly both succumbed during Cavan's opener in Casement Park last Sunday. Alan O'Mara now forms the last line of defence and Cavan supporters will be pleased to see the impressive Tomás 'Mossy' Corr, whom replaced Padraic Reilly last week deemed fit to start. Also getting the nod are last year's senior player of the year Killian Brady and the very talented Ramor United forward Jack Brady.


Cavan line out as follows:

Alan O'Mara (Bailieborough)
Killian Brady (Mullahoran)
Rory Dunne (Redhills)
Oisin Minagh (Redhills)
Damien O'Reilly (Belturbet)
Alan Clarke (Kingscourt)
John McCutcheon (Cootehill)
Gearoid McKiernan (Swanlinbar)
Tomás Corr (Denn)
Cian Mackey (Castlerahan)
Niall McDermott (Ballinagh)
Mark McKeever (Gowna)
David Givney (Mountnugent)
Martin Dunne (Cavan Gaels)
Jack Brady (Ramor united
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on February 08, 2013, 09:05:40 PM
Might have been a bit of a over the top reaction when i heard what i said was in the Celt. It was more or less explained in the anyalysis of the match in the Celt

Good to see Jack Brady in from the start, another natural scoring forward.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on February 10, 2013, 10:45:17 AM
Did anyone else read the total meltdown Paul Fitzpatrick had in the match program.


We must have really got him wound up last week he must have been frothing at the mouth. :)


Edit: Just after reading it again, he also seems to have a sly dig at Micheal Hannon.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on February 10, 2013, 11:10:46 AM
I didn't get a program. Very impressed with Cavan last night, Good all round team performace.
Givney was impressive at full forward, got a great score in the first half. Mackey was very good, coming deep and running at the Monaghan defence, hit some lovely passes into Jack Brady. Thought Jack was very lively. Dunne was playing well before his red (stupid thing what he did but these things happen)

I thought Monaghan would have the edge with Giveny at full forward, but Mossy Corr and McKiernan won there fair share of possesion. McKiernan was very good in the second half. Martin Dunne will be a loss for the Meath game and John McCutcheon, pity there is a 3 week break after getting a good result last night. But it might give the injured players like Eugene Keating, Barry Reilly, James McEnroe, Niall Smith, Kevin Tierney, Ronan Flanagan, Dermot Sheridan a chance to be fully fit or thereabouts for the Meath game
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on February 10, 2013, 11:17:23 AM
Quote from: tommysmith on February 10, 2013, 10:45:17 AM
Did anyone else read the total meltdown Paul Fitzpatrick had in the match program.


We must have really got him wound up last week he must have been frothing at the mouth. :)


Edit: Just after reading it again, he also seems to have a sly dig at Micheal Hannon.

What was the jist of it?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on February 10, 2013, 11:54:37 AM
Left my program behind me, what did he say I didn't bother read it.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on February 10, 2013, 06:32:54 PM
Quote from: tommysmith on February 06, 2013, 05:27:55 PM
Moving on from celt gate, i see the betting for saturday evenings game.

Cavan 6/4  Monaghan 4/6

I think that is easy money if you back against Cavan i just can't see us being good enough to beat Monaghan.

How much did you lump on Monaghan Tommy? 6/4 were alot better odds. :)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on February 10, 2013, 07:19:06 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on February 10, 2013, 06:32:54 PM
Quote from: tommysmith on February 06, 2013, 05:27:55 PM
Moving on from celt gate, i see the betting for saturday evenings game.

Cavan 6/4  Monaghan 4/6

I think that is easy money if you back against Cavan i just can't see us being good enough to beat Monaghan.

How much did you lump on Monaghan Tommy? 6/4 were alot better odds. :)

I put 0 on monaghan, and delighted to be proved wrong.  I must say i did not meet one Cavan person who though Cavan would win before the game and they were at 8/15 before so some lads were backing them.  I think our experienced players Mackey and Mckeever were outstanding and we have found a left footed free taker and Jack will put them over from the other side. Onwards and upwards lads, still strong players to come into that team.

On the sports editor from celt i reckon he is hitting F5 all day to see what reaction he is getting. I would hope someone can scan the article in but if not i will type it in tomorrow.  I must say he has let himself down and the Celt.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on February 10, 2013, 07:23:11 PM
No worries
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on February 10, 2013, 08:41:41 PM
Not much reaction on here to the match, lads must be afraid they'll make the Celt?? ;D

Well just like losing to Antrim didnt mean we were poor, beating Monaghan doesnt make us the best team in the division. What it does show is that we can beat any team in the league if we put our mind to it and that certainly means something to lads confidence and self belief. In my opinion those are the two traits that can make the difference between winning and losing.

Cavan decided sometime during the week that they were going to stop the slide and make a stand. They got in Monaghans faces from the start and it didn't take long for McManus to lash out and get the line. Unfortunately Dunne followed thanks to some fine diving and feigning injury by Monaghan something that also got McCutcheon sent off too. Classy boys over in Monaghan.

For us it was a real team effort or even a real squad effort. I thought the two main men for us, the lads that made things happen, were the two older lads McKeever and Mackey. I was also impressed with Clarke who really showed what we've been missing. Gearoids massive free just on half time was a real kick in the nuts to Monaghan as was the well taken penalty in the second half. Was great to see McDermott and Givney stepping it up when Dunne went off too.

Finally the ref was probably as bad as I've seen in years, he lost control completely, although I am sure some croke park numpty in the crowd gave him 10/10 and will promote him to Div 2 for next week. Where do they get these fellas from, I'd do a better job and I never reffed a game in my life.

Next up Derby No 2, Meath in Navan. As bad as Monaghan are the idea of losing to these boys gives me sleepless nights and I have that for the next three weeks.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on February 10, 2013, 09:05:50 PM
We don't want to hex things.

Next game will tell us if we are going in the right direction.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on February 10, 2013, 09:08:58 PM
I gave my reaction.

League is wide open, Sligo beat Antrim by 2, Meath beat Wickla, Fermanagh got thier second win yesterday against Ros. Not much between the teams. Ros will probaly have the Brigids lads back for the next round (when cross beat them this weekend)

Wicklow are the wipping boys, Tony Hannon a key forward over the years retired since last season. Seanie Furlong who had a brillant game in the League final last year, can't commit, and Leaighton Glynn is injured, Cavan should get a great boost from yesterday and go to Navan with confidence
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on February 11, 2013, 12:45:40 AM
Was Paul Fitz giving out about what we said about internet comments being published in The Celt?

Fantastic win and it will give our survival chances a big boost. Meath away is another extremely tough game and once again it's hard to see us getting a result but that win will give them confidence. We are without Dunne and McCutcheon though are we?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on February 11, 2013, 12:28:52 PM
Lads im not going to type in what he said its just gibberish and a rant/meltdown.

He was giving a job to write a preview on the game and 3/4 of it was used to attack us and 1/4 was about the game.  God knows anyone that read it would wonder what is this guy on.

Of course what he didn't mention was the fact that only a few days earlier he was happy enough to post comments from us "lunatics" on his piece in the paper, instead of going out and asking a few people outside the ground.

At the end of the day he couldn't take the bit of critism that he was giving from here and threw the toys out of the pram.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: packiedevlin on February 11, 2013, 01:07:21 PM
Why was Martin Dunne sent off? I couldn't see from where I was sitting. I guess McCutcheons was for the high tackle but is that a red card offence? Harte and McCartan were both giving out about that ref last week. Also near the end, one of the monaghan players (I think Clerkin) hit a cavan player in the face as he was running past him and got no card at all. Some of these refs decisions are baffling!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on February 11, 2013, 02:23:13 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on February 11, 2013, 02:09:27 PM
Paul would want to wise up in that case. Some of us remember the __________ Paul and sure he was as big a lunatic as anyone, before he got famous  that is.

Exactly, and him and his press pass for free entry and travel expenses, we don't all get paid to go to games paul maybe you should remember that.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on February 11, 2013, 05:17:08 PM
Few yards from the ref, that should have been
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on February 11, 2013, 08:31:50 PM
See Mark McKeever was on the Hoganstand team of the week make f that what you will.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: scoopmine on February 12, 2013, 06:04:15 PM
Great win always a great feeling beating your neighbours.

A lot of positives Clarke at centre back looks like he belongs there. Midfield did well and leadership was shown. Subs that came on did well even if I was nervous for Killian Clarke on Tommy Freeman. Dunne was stupid raising his hands no excuses he will get alot worse come championship. Don't think Mcutchon was as bad as it looked and he is generally not that sort of player. Felt Damien O Reilly was a great outlet never stopped showing. Givney long ball is always an option and I look forward to seeing Keating back. Centre forward is a problem and I don't think Mcderrmott is comfortable there. His positives are he does add a bigger physical aspect and generally wins ball that is given to him and Martin Reilly who again did well when he came on took his peno well.

Monaghan  were awful, bad shot selection, were very narky when they went behind and seemed to have looked past Cavan at home. Div 3 looks tight and Meath in Navan will be a huge test. But its nice to come on here and be talking positive with hope for the year ahead.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on February 12, 2013, 10:45:05 PM
Great win at the weekend. Lets hope they can keep it going against the real enemy in Navan. Meath are definitely beatable and there is no reason why we can't come away with a win. Division 3 is wide open. Promotion is there for whoever wants it most.

What about club action this weekend? Will pitches be fit for games?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on February 12, 2013, 11:03:33 PM
Quote from: boojangles on February 12, 2013, 10:45:05 PM
Great win at the weekend. Lets hope they can keep it going against the real enemy in Navan. Meath are definitely beatable and there is no reason why we can't come away with a win. Division 3 is wide open. Promotion is there for whoever wants it most.

What about club action this weekend? Will pitches be fit for games?

They wouldn't be in great shape, suppose to be giving rain for the weekend. I heard the Club League's in Tyrone don't start until the second week in April, 2 months after Cavan.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on February 13, 2013, 12:21:37 PM
I'd like to clear this is if the Celt is reading, When i mentioned Antrim were missing a few players against us, I said that as we were also  missing players like keating, Tierney,Flanagan,McEnroe. I was reading Hoganstand before the game and it looked like all we had to do was turn up, they are a good side and it was always going to be hard to beat them in Belfast.

Fully behind the Cavan team, I be positive most of the time about Cavan. Not telling people not to attend the league games like a certain poster on Hoganstand.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on February 13, 2013, 06:33:24 PM
He at in again in celt  ;D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on February 14, 2013, 12:25:04 AM
I don't think I will ever comment on here again if Cavan lose, be taken out of context and make the Celt..

Club action this weekend, Be interesting to see how Cullivan gets on with Lavey. His first year not involved with a County panel, on the Senior panel since he was 18/19 year after the Co Minors.. Key player with Dcu for a few years too. A fully fully focused Cullivan would be a great addition for Lavey. Could work his way back onto the Senior panel aswell, he has the talent.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on February 14, 2013, 12:33:56 AM
Quote from: tommysmith on February 13, 2013, 06:33:24 PM
He at in again in celt  ;D

I also heard that he went on another rant about faceless internet posters in this weeks Tommy .  ;D
I bet he actually thinks that "quoting" some of us in the celt annoy's or irritate's us to some degree.
The fact is,none of us on this board abuse or criticise individual players or members of management on a personal level.
We are entitled to discuss the negative and positive aspects of performances,both team and individual and to air our views on the performance of the management.
He doesn't seem able to understand the difference between those.
I know you will read this post, so Paul why don't you log on using your very well known username and converse with us again????

As for the game. I was delighted with Saturday night. The tactics,team selection etc were all spot on. The workrate was fantastic and we played some very good football in parts. Losing Martin Dunne for Meath is a big disappointment but hopefully Keating and Kevin Tierney will be back for Navan in 2 and a half weeks. It will be interesting to see Hylands team selection when he has a full deck to choose from.
I assumed like many others that Killian Clarke would be his first choice full-back,but i can see him sticking with Rory Dunneso whereabouts he will accomodate Clarke is the question. I was delighted for Alan Clarke who gave a terrific performance at CHB.  Damien Reily has also really established himself as an Intercounty quality player.  I also wonder could we perhaps see Jack Brady in the half back line against Meath in place of the suspended McCutcheon,Niall Moyna obviously sees something if he has Jack at CHB on a star-studded DCU Sigerson team.  Keating and Tierney's return from injury could allow him that oppertunity.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on February 14, 2013, 10:39:45 AM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on February 14, 2013, 12:33:56 AM
Quote from: tommysmith on February 13, 2013, 06:33:24 PM
He at in again in celt  ;D

I also heard that he went on another rant about faceless internet posters in this weeks Tommy .  ;D
I bet he actually thinks that "quoting" some of us in the celt annoy's or irritate's us to some degree.
The fact is,none of us on this board abuse or criticise individual players or members of management on a personal level.
We are entitled to discuss the negative and positive aspects of performances,both team and individual and to air our views on the performance of the management.
He doesn't seem able to understand the difference between those.
I know you will read this post, so Paul why don't you log on using your very well known username and converse with us again????

As for the game. I was delighted with Saturday night. The tactics,team selection etc were all spot on. The workrate was fantastic and we played some very good football in parts. Losing Martin Dunne for Meath is a big disappointment but hopefully Keating and Kevin Tierney will be back for Navan in 2 and a half weeks. It will be interesting to see Hylands team selection when he has a full deck to choose from.
I assumed like many others that Killian Clarke would be his first choice full-back,but i can see him sticking with Rory Dunneso whereabouts he will accomodate Clarke is the question. I was delighted for Alan Clarke who gave a terrific performance at CHB.  Damien Reily has also really established himself as an Intercounty quality player.  I also wonder could we perhaps see Jack Brady in the half back line against Meath in place of the suspended McCutcheon,Niall Moyna obviously sees something if he has Jack at CHB on a star-studded DCU Sigerson team.  Keating and Tierney's return from injury could allow him that oppertunity.

I bet he does not sleep at night he is sittting in his office at the celt hitting F5 looking for a reaction from us, (They dont have broadband in redhills). 

Nice bit of scoring power to come back in  :)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on February 14, 2013, 11:03:43 AM
Here you go to anyone who didnt read what was written on almost half a page in the Celt this week.

Memo to those who lurk in internet forums – man up or shut up please.
Cavan county board chairman Tom Reilly and his committee should speak to some of the faceless internet experts – they know all the answers, writes Anglo-Celt Sports editor Paul Fitzpatrick.

The Internet is another country; they do things differently there. It would make you wonder. Why do ordinarily sane punters turn into abusive, angry, bewildered lunatics, foaming at the mouth with a righteous rage, their plan of attack just that – an all-out offensive?
They are like the viscous drunk we all know, who changes when the liquor is in. It's a case of "with keyboard veritas" to coin the phrase. Of course, it's not the effect of sitting down at a computer or with a smartphone that creates this altered state of mind; rather it's the drug of anonymity.
Unhappy with how others perceive you in real life? No problem, switch your attentions to a made-up world and live vicariously through an online persona.
I have no problem with fair comment online but personal criticism(when the "alligator", as a famous politician once said, hasn't the courage to put their own name on it) is cowardly and unfair. Cavan footballers and management would surely agree – in fact, I know they do, because they have said so privately.
After the Antrim game, we ran some of the online comments in a panel under the heading "what the internet pundits say". The reaction was amazing. It was lazy journalism, suggested one nameless poster. Others were clearly alarmed at being quoted, possibly because the fact that their very public utterances were printed in a newspaper meant that they had to stand over them, just as I and anyone else who writes in a newspaper does.
Journos get plenty of vitriol, but they can hack it, no pun intended, and secretely, in a lot of cases, probably enjoy the attention. But players, who train as hard as any professional sportsmen for little or no return, and managers, who try as best they can to turn out winning teams, often feel the brunt of it.
Where am I going with all this? Well, as usual, there was an online Armageddon last week following Cavans defeat to Antrim. Forget the fact that the Saffrons routed us in our own castle last April, Cavan were expected to go to Belfast and win last Sunday week. Nothing less or the keyboard warriors wouldn't be happy.
Of course, they didn't win, but it wasn't for want of trying. Antrim have had the upper hand for a few years and the home advantage. Cavan were missing a few important men, trying out new tactics and positioning of players. They competed well, and they were in a winning position, but didn't close it out.
And the internet experts? Well there were about 600 punters in total at the game, most of whom were from Antrim. The majority of those who lurk in online message boards, then, weren't at the match about which they were commenting.
Amid all the guff, however, (and I didn't go through it all, life is too short to hang on the ramblings of the semi-literate and anonymous) there was one morsel of wisdom.
"Every time we lose" noted one poster, I think, on the gaaboard.com web-site,  "we try to re-invent the wheel" Bang! Spot on. A rare diamond in the rough.
Cavan lost to Antrim – on another day, maybe with another referee, we'd have beaten them. What does that mean? It means we lost by 2 points and needed to beat Monaghan so as not to come under pressure. Nothing more, nothing less.
That doesn't mean Cavan need a new manager, or to bring back old players or drop young ones, or any reaction of that type. We're coming from a low base, having won – going into last Saturdays game – six matches in league and championship from the last 20. "Monaghan", we wrote in the programme last Saturday, "will bring huge enegery and confidence after their fantastic win over Meath last week. In Malachy O Rourke, they have one of the best managers in the game, and they have a potent blend of experience, scoring power, physique and young talent.
"But, to use a cliché, it's a local derby, and results which run counter to the form book are common in those fixtures. Cavan are at home and, as Michael Hannon pointed out in a recent mostly football column in the Anglo-Celt, that's worth a 5% boost. An extra game under Cavans belts will bring them up another notch and if Terry Hylands troops can hold their focus for the full 70 minutes – Cavan haven't done that in years – they will be very hard to beat. And if everything does come right and the season is not so much salvaged as steered back on course, even the internet pundits might be happy. And pigs might fly, too" They weren't happy of course. One person who posts under their real name wrote to question whether the piece was accusing him of idiocy (it wasn't – he has the cojones to put his name to his words). Another supporter emailed saying "well done – it had to be said". And the chorus line had it that your correspondent "let the Celt down"
It was all to be expected. The rules of the engagement, you see, aren't fair. Write in a newspaper and you must be able to back it up, meet those you praise or criticise on the street; hide behind a made up moniker on an internet forum and you can libel individuals, cast aspersions and spit out whatever vitriol comes into your head, without fear or repercussions.
There are some very knowledgeable posters on message boards, and often there are those with more-than-tenuous links to the team (and Val Andrews even suggested that some were actually members of the panel itself). The question is, though, in an age of social media, just what do these fellas have to hide?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on February 14, 2013, 12:55:18 PM
1. O'Mara
2. Barkey
3. Dunne
4. Minagh
5. Hayes
6. Clarke
7. O'Reilly
8. Corr
9. McKeirnan
10. Mackey
11. McDermott
12. McKeever
13  Givney
14. Keating
15. Brady

I would like to see a team like that start against Meath.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: CC1 on February 14, 2013, 10:40:39 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on February 14, 2013, 11:03:43 AM
Here you go to anyone who didnt read what was written on almost half a page in the Celt this week.

Memo to those who lurk in internet forums – man up or shut up please.
Cavan county board chairman Tom Reilly and his committee should speak to some of the faceless internet experts – they know all the answers, writes Anglo-Celt Sports editor Paul Fitzpatrick.

The Internet is another country; they do things differently there. It would make you wonder. Why do ordinarily sane punters turn into abusive, angry, bewildered lunatics, foaming at the mouth with a righteous rage, their plan of attack just that – an all-out offensive?
They are like the viscous drunk we all know, who changes when the liquor is in. It's a case of "with keyboard veritas" to coin the phrase. Of course, it's not the effect of sitting down at a computer or with a smartphone that creates this altered state of mind; rather it's the drug of anonymity.
Unhappy with how others perceive you in real life? No problem, switch your attentions to a made-up world and live vicariously through an online persona.
I have no problem with fair comment online but personal criticism(when the "alligator", as a famous politician once said, hasn't the courage to put their own name on it) is cowardly and unfair. Cavan footballers and management would surely agree – in fact, I know they do, because they have said so privately.
After the Antrim game, we ran some of the online comments in a panel under the heading "what the internet pundits say". The reaction was amazing. It was lazy journalism, suggested one nameless poster. Others were clearly alarmed at being quoted, possibly because the fact that their very public utterances were printed in a newspaper meant that they had to stand over them, just as I and anyone else who writes in a newspaper does.
Journos get plenty of vitriol, but they can hack it, no pun intended, and secretely, in a lot of cases, probably enjoy the attention. But players, who train as hard as any professional sportsmen for little or no return, and managers, who try as best they can to turn out winning teams, often feel the brunt of it.
Where am I going with all this? Well, as usual, there was an online Armageddon last week following Cavans defeat to Antrim. Forget the fact that the Saffrons routed us in our own castle last April, Cavan were expected to go to Belfast and win last Sunday week. Nothing less or the keyboard warriors wouldn't be happy.
Of course, they didn't win, but it wasn't for want of trying. Antrim have had the upper hand for a few years and the home advantage. Cavan were missing a few important men, trying out new tactics and positioning of players. They competed well, and they were in a winning position, but didn't close it out.
And the internet experts? Well there were about 600 punters in total at the game, most of whom were from Antrim. The majority of those who lurk in online message boards, then, weren't at the match about which they were commenting.
Amid all the guff, however, (and I didn't go through it all, life is too short to hang on the ramblings of the semi-literate and anonymous) there was one morsel of wisdom.
"Every time we lose" noted one poster, I think, on the gaaboard.com web-site,  "we try to re-invent the wheel" Bang! Spot on. A rare diamond in the rough.
Cavan lost to Antrim – on another day, maybe with another referee, we'd have beaten them. What does that mean? It means we lost by 2 points and needed to beat Monaghan so as not to come under pressure. Nothing more, nothing less.
That doesn't mean Cavan need a new manager, or to bring back old players or drop young ones, or any reaction of that type. We're coming from a low base, having won – going into last Saturdays game – six matches in league and championship from the last 20. "Monaghan", we wrote in the programme last Saturday, "will bring huge enegery and confidence after their fantastic win over Meath last week. In Malachy O Rourke, they have one of the best managers in the game, and they have a potent blend of experience, scoring power, physique and young talent.
"But, to use a cliché, it's a local derby, and results which run counter to the form book are common in those fixtures. Cavan are at home and, as Michael Hannon pointed out in a recent mostly football column in the Anglo-Celt, that's worth a 5% boost. An extra game under Cavans belts will bring them up another notch and if Terry Hylands troops can hold their focus for the full 70 minutes – Cavan haven't done that in years – they will be very hard to beat. And if everything does come right and the season is not so much salvaged as steered back on course, even the internet pundits might be happy. And pigs might fly, too" They weren't happy of course. One person who posts under their real name wrote to question whether the piece was accusing him of idiocy (it wasn't – he has the cojones to put his name to his words). Another supporter emailed saying "well done – it had to be said". And the chorus line had it that your correspondent "let the Celt down"
It was all to be expected. The rules of the engagement, you see, aren't fair. Write in a newspaper and you must be able to back it up, meet those you praise or criticise on the street; hide behind a made up moniker on an internet forum and you can libel individuals, cast aspersions and spit out whatever vitriol comes into your head, without fear or repercussions.
There are some very knowledgeable posters on message boards, and often there are those with more-than-tenuous links to the team (and Val Andrews even suggested that some were actually members of the panel itself). The question is, though, in an age of social media, just what do these fellas have to hide?
He's absolutely spot on with that article in fairness.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on February 14, 2013, 10:52:28 PM
Quote from: tommysmith on February 14, 2013, 12:55:18 PM
1. O'Mara
2. Barkey
3. Dunne
4. Minagh
5. Hayes
6. Clarke
7. O'Reilly
8. Corr
9. McKeirnan
10. Mackey
11. McDermott
12. McKeever
13  Givney
14. Keating
15. Brady

I would like to see a team like that start against Meath.
According to the Celt, we are thinking of an appeal of the Dinner red card. It would be a big plus to have him for Meath. Keating also will be back I hear to we could be in with a chance although it will be very tough to win in navan
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on February 14, 2013, 10:53:31 PM
Right CC1 he might be right, but do you think he would have wrote it if we had of praised him last Wednesday and Thursday and said it was a great idea to quote posts for message boards?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: CC1 on February 15, 2013, 10:04:25 AM
Quote from: tommysmith on February 14, 2013, 10:53:31 PM
Right CC1 he might be right, but do you think he would have wrote it if we had of praised him last Wednesday and Thursday and said it was a great idea to quote posts for message boards?
I don't think he would have, but that isn't the point. He isn't the first journalist and he most certainly won't be the last to quote a public forum, it happens constantly with other websites like Boards.ie too. Regardless of what we think of his journalism style in this case, he does raise some very valid points which are in my view a big issue with Cavan football at the moment. So much so that a Cavan manager commented on it at one stage.

Anonymous agendas on forums are rife within this county and it has come to the point where something had to be said (again). Some of the things you see on forums after games are nothing short of disgraceful, they create a bad vibe which obviously offers nothing to the Cavan set up.

I can think of one poster in particular from the last year and a half that was on a complete witch hunt against Val Andrews and then continued to target the new manager. Thankfully that poster is no longer around, however when one goes, another usually pops up to take the mantle. People like this are accepted on internet forums despite the fact that if they said such personal things in a public house or wherever they would be thrown out.

At the end of it all, we all must remember that the GAA is an amateur sport, everyone is involved because of their love for the game and everyone wants to be successful. Nobody deserves such abuse, let alone an agenda against their name for committing their time to help Cavan (or any county for that matter) become a better team.

Supporters should be there, as the word suggests, to support the team. If you don't do this then you are just a critic, and unless you are at every match, challenge match, training session and played/managed the game at the highest level like these guys have then you cannot possibly imagine the amount of effort it takes to become successful. This is why I don't have a lot of time for journalists that criticise a team when they do not have the experience to qualify their arguments. This may apply to Fitzpatrick in certain instances where he may have been critical in the past, but his article last week was spot on. We are all guilty of this at some point, but there is a line that shouldn't be crossed.

I am all for free speech and for people being allowed to have their say as they pay at the gate and they are well within their rights to share their joy or disappointment. However, criticism should be left for the people who have knowledge of the game, the team and the county set up. Personal criticism shouldn't be accepted anywhere with regard to the sport.

Again, lines should not be crossed, and people need to be reminded that managers and players are doing this for their love of the game, because they are not getting much else out of it other than what they have earned themselves. Just leave the personal stuff out of it, support the team and try to enjoy it whether the results are good or bad, because that is what being a supporter is all about.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on February 15, 2013, 12:28:28 PM
Speaking on my own behalf, this is what I said

Antrims were missing 4 regulars. Including Tomas McCann who is probaly their best forward. Givney will have to start at midfield next week, target man role didn't work that well. Monaghan are strong at midfield with Dick Clerkin and Eoin Lennon, Cavan can't afford to be cleaned out again in the middle.

All of that was said in Paul's analysis of the Antrim match. Antrim were missing some key men, Midfield battle was lost on the day.

I don't see what the problem was, was it suppose to be a positive thing highlighting what I said, i didn't see it like that , maybe I read it wrong with my reaction.  I thought i was being singled out when Tommy mentioned it what i said on here, he then revealed Bhm was quoted aswell and a few from Hoganstand.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on February 15, 2013, 12:50:57 PM
CC1 there was no critism of players though from here and its defenitaly here that he is having a go at.

The thing that i find astounding is the fact that he used the match preview in the program to slate us.   It was possibly the biggest league game of the year as a loss would have left us with a mountain to climb, and he didnt give it the respect it deserved.  I  sat in the stand laughing and asked my mate to read the match preview, he handed the program back to me after reading a few lines and said who is that clown.

Anyway we have wasted to much time talking about this .

Cavan For Sam  :D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on February 15, 2013, 03:55:06 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on February 15, 2013, 03:45:06 PM
Quote from: spuds on February 15, 2013, 03:42:47 PM
Quote from: Any craic on February 15, 2013, 08:55:30 AM
Video - see hosts Athlone IT beat CIT last night to reach the Irish Daily Mail Sigerson Cup weekend http://tinyurl.com/bo6dsoh (http://tinyurl.com/bo6dsoh) including interview clips with a former All Star and the brother of another former All Star. I'll let youse work that out!
Former All Star is Gary Connaughton
Brother of all Star is Athlone manager Martin McCabe, brother of Dermot ?

Yeah he is a brother of Dermot

Team mangement is going well in Cavan.  Martin, not the most graceful of footballers but so effective around the square.  Are there any players from Cavan on the AIT team?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: scoopmine on February 15, 2013, 04:47:26 PM
Killian Clarke plays with AIT.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on February 15, 2013, 04:50:01 PM
Quote from: scoopmine on February 15, 2013, 04:47:26 PM
Killian Clarke plays with AIT.

Think the Murphy lad from Cavan Gaels ((Levi??) is also involved. I'm not sure if Turloch Mooney is at the college but still injury jinxed
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on February 15, 2013, 06:45:13 PM
I see on Twitter today that Barry Reilly is recovered from his broken jaw. Anyone know is he in on county panel, he would be a great addition.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on February 15, 2013, 07:16:36 PM
Quote from: Itchy on February 15, 2013, 06:45:13 PM
I see on Twitter today that Barry Reilly is recovered from his broken jaw. Anyone know is he in on county panel, he would be a great addition.

I hope he is another lad who can kick a score  :)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on February 15, 2013, 07:57:53 PM
Of course Barry Reilly is on the panel. He would have been starting no doubt if was fit. He was doing water boy along the line against Monaghan.

This was the panel that was named before xmass

http://www.google.ie/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=hyland+names+cavan+panel&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&ved=0CCsQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.hoganstand.com%2Fcavan%2FArticleForm.aspx%3FID%3D182419&ei=LZIeUe29KZC7hAfI7YCgAg&usg=AFQjCNFfXG9lDU5yAZRy_atpsia7aDXJ1A&bvm=bv.42553238,d.ZG4

All those players are still involved with the panel and injured players like McEnroe, Tierney, will feature id imagine when fit id imagine
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on February 15, 2013, 08:13:01 PM
Carroll couldn't commit due being in the Curragh Ronan Flanagan, Niall Smith, Dermot Sheridan are part of the panel aswell but injured.

Strong panel when everyone is availabel.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on February 16, 2013, 08:43:53 PM
Quote from: tommysmith on February 15, 2013, 07:16:36 PM
Quote from: Itchy on February 15, 2013, 06:45:13 PM
I see on Twitter today that Barry Reilly is recovered from his broken jaw. Anyone know is he in on county panel, he would be a great addition.

I hope he is another lad who can kick a score  :)

He was kicking some nice free and 45's off the ground in the championship too. Seems to pick up injuries easier then you'd hope but hopefully he'll be clear now and get a run with the seniors.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on February 18, 2013, 03:12:56 PM
James McEnroe was suppose to have had a great game yesterday for Ramor. Be good to him back on the Cavan team, strong as an oxe.

http://www.hoganstand.com/cavan/ArticleForm.aspx?ID=185773
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on February 18, 2013, 11:13:39 PM
Does anyone know if Packie Leddy is on the Senior Panel? Would have thought he'd be one that would have the physical presence to step up to senior level.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on February 20, 2013, 05:29:57 PM
Don't think he on the panel. Mark Leddy is though.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on February 21, 2013, 03:03:17 PM
Best of luck to David and Gearoid this Sunday.  Uladh Abu.

Ulster (Interprovincial final v Leinster) - Pascal McConnell (Tyrone); Chrissy McKaigue (Derry), Neil McGee (Donegal), Eamonn McGee (Donegal); Aaron Kernan (Armagh), Darren Hughes (Monaghan), Ciaran McKeever (Armagh); Sean Cavanagh (Tyrone), David Givney (Cavan); Mark McHugh (Donegal), Martin Penrose (Tyrone), Joe McMahon (Tyrone); Jamie Clarke (Armagh), Kevin Niblock (Antrim), Conor McManus (Monaghan). Subs: Brendan McVeigh (Down), Cathal McCarron (Tyrone), Dermot McBride (Derry), Mark Poland (Down), Justin McMahon (Tyrone), Tommy McElroy (Fermanagh), Ryan Jones (Fermanagh), Gearoid McKiernan (Cavan), Conor McAliskey (Tyrone), Paul McComiskey (Down), Kieran Hughes (Monaghan), Peter Harte (Tyrone).
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on February 21, 2013, 03:24:50 PM
Won't Givney be playing sigerson football as well. So long as he avoids injury! Meath await and the sickness is coming back.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on February 21, 2013, 03:44:50 PM
I would hope that if he plays on Friday and Saturday that he wont be asked to play on Sunday, if he does he wont be fit for much for a while.

I would imagine he wants to play in Croke Park though.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on February 21, 2013, 05:18:03 PM
What way does the Sigerson weekend work? If DIT got knocked out will he just play the one game? It would be good to see him playing in Croker and I'd say he's mad to get out there. Just hope he can come through this weekend safe. For a Mountnugent man Meath is the biggest local Derby I would imagine, he'll be mad to get one over on them.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on February 21, 2013, 05:48:51 PM
Yes, being Sigerson Semi Final weekend thats the way it would work out... The final is Saturday. DIT play DCU in one Semi and AIT play UCC in the other.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on February 21, 2013, 05:56:25 PM
Givney went to Secondary School in Oldcastle, so he would indeed be made to get one over them. He won the an all Ireland Vocational Schools title with Oldcastle, Paddy Gilsenan who will probaly be starting corner forward for Meath was also on that team.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on February 21, 2013, 07:23:06 PM
Fair enough, I thought perhaps there was a 3rd place play off or something. DCU will be strong favourite's to beat DIT. Pity it wasn't Athlone v DCU or we could have seen Killian Clarke v Michael Murphy!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on February 21, 2013, 07:40:11 PM
Yeah they would be favs, very impressive against Ucd. Dit have a stong panel though, Tomas O Connor, Darren O Sullivan, Aidan O Shea, Jason Doherty, and obviously Givney. They won the league aswell - Ryan Cup.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on February 22, 2013, 02:10:14 PM
Busy weekend for Givney.  Hope he has his assignment done!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on February 22, 2013, 02:24:42 PM
Nice to see plenty of Cavan lads featuring at the late stages of the Sigerson. Hopefully Athlone might cause another surprise now. Rodney-any idea if Ross Sheridan is out of age for the Under 21 level?



Dublin IT 1-11
DCU 0-9

DUBLIN IT sprung a shock against competition favorites DCU in this afternoon's Sigerson Cup semi-final at Athlone IT.
DIT, 7/2 outsiders before this game, were full value for their victory with a 51st minute goal by substitute Bernard Allen from Offaly sealing their triumph.
Allen pounced shortly after being introduced to blast a loose ball into the bottom corner of the net past DCU goalkeeper James Farrelly.
Mayo attacker Jason Doherty shone for DIT as he grabbed 0-6 while his county colleague Aidan O'Shea and Cavan's David Givney exerted control at midfield.
DCU were flat throughout and only managed a solitary point from play, in the 42nd minute from Dean Rock, with Donegal star Michael Murphy expertly marshaled by Meath's Bryan Menton in the DIT rearguard.
Dublin IT began brightly with Givney excelling as he floated over two long-range points to help them lead by 0-3 to 0-1 after 5 minutes. Murphy kept DCU in touch through frees but at the other end Doherty caught the eye for DIT and along with a point from Ross Sheridan, he helped DIT lead by 0-6 to 0-2 in the 18th minute.
However DIT did no translate their superiority into scores and DCU chipped away at the deficit courtesy of a pair of converted Murphy frees.
DIT still managed to finish the half on a strong note with Doherty notching a superb score from play and tapping over a free to push his side into a 0-8 to 0-4 interval advantage.
DCU emerged for the second-half in determined fashion with Murphy helping them reduce the margin to only two points, 0-9 to 0-7, by the 44th minute. However that was as good as it go for the reigning champions with DIT closing out the game in a powerful fashion and Allen's goal sealed their passage through to their first final appearance since 2009.
Scorers for Dublin IT: Jason Doherty 0-6 (0-5f), Bernard Allen 1-0, David Givney 0-2, Ross Sheridan, Darran O'Sullivan, Alan Nestor (0-1f) 0-1 each.
Scorers for DCU: Michael Murphy 0-8 (0-8f), Dean Rock 0-1.
DUBLIN IT: Robert Lambert (Aughrim, Wicklow); Kevin O'Brien (Naomh Mearnóg, Dublin), Bryan Menton (Donaghmore-Ashbourne, Meath), Gary O'Hare (Na Piarsaigh, Louth); Ross Sheridan (Killygarry, Cavan), Nick Devereaux (Ballinteer St John's, Dublin), Colin Walshe (Doohamlet, Monaghan); Aidan O'Shea (Breaffy, Mayo), David Givney (Mountnugent, Cavan); Martin Reilly (Killygarry, Cavan), Mark Collins (Castlehaven, Cork), Darran O'Sullivan (Glenbeigh-Glencar, Kerry); Ciarán Reddin (St Maur's, Dublin) Tomás O'Connor (Clane, Kildare), Jason Doherty (Burrishoole, Mayo).
Subs: Bernard Allen (Tubber, Offaly) for Reddin (47), Paul Maguire (St Judes, Dublin) for O'Sullivan (inj) (54),
DCU: James Farrelly (Kingscourt, Cavan); Conor Boyle (Clontibret, Monaghan), Johnny Cooper (Na Fianna, Dublin), William Lowry (St Vincent's, Dublin); Jack Brady (Ramor United, Cavan), Conor Daly (Padraig Pearses, Roscommon), Michael Quinn (Emmett Og Killoe, Longford); Fiontain O Curraoin (Micheál Breathnach, Galway), James McCarthy (Ballymun Kickhams, Dublin); Chris McGuinness (Ballybay, Monaghan), Paul Flynn (Fingallian's, Dublin), Antoin McFadden (St Michael's, Donegal); Philly Ryan (St Brigid's, Dublin), Michael Murphy (Glenswilly, Donegal), Dean Rock (Ballymun Kichams, Dublin).
Subs: Conor Dunleavy (Oliver Plunkett's-Eoghan Ruadh, Dublin) for Daly (19), Davy Byrne (Ballymun Kickhams, Dublin) for McFadden (21), Gary Sweeney (St Sylvester's, Dublin) for Rock (53), Brian Donnelly (Cooley Kickhams, Louth) for O Curraoin (53), Donal Smith (Boyle, Roscommon) for Quinn (57).
Referee: Michael Duffy (Sligo)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on February 22, 2013, 02:47:23 PM
Yeah he would be over age asaik, 22 this year. Good player, might get a look with the Cavan Senior panel, he was playing good stuff with DIT all year.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on February 22, 2013, 03:39:57 PM
Well done to David Givney, Martin Reilly and Ross Shierdan.

I've said it before, but in Givney I think we have a potential star of the game. I remember a few years back when we lost Ulster U21 final to Donegal and he was awesome at midfield and even when Michael Murphy went out on him he was still lording it.

He seems a fairly grounded lad to I just hope he stays clear of injury. Would be good if AIT could get to the final too.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on February 22, 2013, 05:00:20 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=39g6C0k4QKQ

Few Cavan lads featuring in this clip of today's game. Givney is a great athlete. As he matures he will get even better and hopefully can make a real impact at midfield or full forward. Playing tomorrow will probably scupper his chances of starting in Croker on Sunday, would be great if Gearoid was put in as a straight swap. He has some Croke Park demons to banish.
Any world how Clarke got on for AIT today? They took a bit of a hiding so not well I assume.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on February 22, 2013, 05:10:49 PM
Conor Cox the UCC Full Forward scored 10 pts , so that might tell its own story.

Great for Athlone to reach the weekend as hosts, but they were always going to be up against it, playing a side like UCC.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on February 23, 2013, 04:46:55 PM
Well done to all the Cavan lads today on the DIT team. Givney was massive scoring 1-2 and clearly the best player on the pitch.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on February 23, 2013, 05:28:15 PM
How old is the Sheridan lad?  Very impressive in an Stephen Kernan sort of way.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on February 23, 2013, 05:41:47 PM
22. Stylish player very comfortable is possesion.

Great to see Martin Reilly get a Sigerson medeal, been there a few years now, 5 or 6, Givney could have a even better weekend if he wins a Railway Cup medal tomorrow. Hard to see him starting after playing 2 games, in 2 days.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BigMac on February 23, 2013, 07:29:55 PM
I honestly think Givney is one of the best mid fielder in the country at the minute. This video shows some of his outrageous catches and scores from the DCU game.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eWcvcvN3bG0
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on February 23, 2013, 07:56:54 PM
Givney did brilliantly well and I'm delighted for him. But the difference in intensity between Sigerson and Intercounty is massive and I'm sure he knows that better than anyone himself. He will ultimately be judged by the type of performances he puts in when in the Cavan jersey. Let's hope he can have as big a game next weekend in Navan, he's well capable of it. Take nothing away from him though he can only play the game that's put in front of him and today he was top notch.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on February 23, 2013, 08:03:42 PM
He gave a very good performance against the would be All Ireland Champions last May in Breffni. Thought he  had a great game against a strong Donegal midfield in Rory Kavanagh and Neil Gallagher. Gearoid McKiernan was half fit that day after a injury. Personally think Givney is a more complete player. But McKiernan is still very good, and a great player for getting 2/3 pts each game.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on February 23, 2013, 09:38:40 PM
Now settle down there lads. Givney is a great prospect and was excellent today, best player on the pitch. But the best midifelder in Ireland, well he will need a few years before anyone could say that. Don't get me wrong, I have been really impressed in that he seems to be a lot fitter, faster, stronger and more athletic than last year. I think he is a really good lad and seems to be doing all the right things but he is 22 and the last thing he needs is out of control expectation from starved Cavan fans.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on February 23, 2013, 09:44:55 PM
I would have him up there in the Top 5 in present form. And the way he is developing, he can be the best.

Btw, Givney will be 24 this year.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on February 23, 2013, 10:18:03 PM
Huge weekend for the lad, first bit of silverware and now first game in Croker (I think?) tomorrow. I agree with Itchy that we shouldn't be going overboard about him but he should enjoy the bit of a buzz over his performances. Especially after spending the first few years of his intercounty career being called Gibney by the media!

Now if he can go to Navan next weekend and give Menton a roasting we'll be going somewhere!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on February 24, 2013, 11:57:57 AM
Myself and Big Mac didn't actually say he was the best - there is a difference.. Up there with the best on current form. He was as good as Sean Cavanagh last week in the Railway Cup Semi until his sending off.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: scoopmine on February 24, 2013, 05:22:20 PM
Lads anyone hear about Keating moving to Na Fianna in Dublin?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on February 24, 2013, 05:30:38 PM
In his final year in Sligo, he must have work lined up in Dub afterwards. I heard the transfer has gone through.

Givney got another medal today. Railway Cup. Fair play to him.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on February 24, 2013, 05:34:32 PM
Did Givney start? I caught the last few minutes on the radio I heard Gearoid's name mentioned.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on February 24, 2013, 06:24:36 PM
Started, scored a point. Took off at half time. Gearoid came on for him
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on March 01, 2013, 11:25:04 AM
Does anyone know the date and time of the U21 game v Monaghan?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on March 01, 2013, 12:45:20 PM
Quote from: Westside on March 01, 2013, 11:25:04 AM
Does anyone know the date and time of the U21 game v Monaghan?

It's Wednesday the 20th of March and i presume it will be at 8.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on March 01, 2013, 02:01:57 PM
Yep.

Quarter Final

Cavan V Monaghan

Time: 8 00 PM , Venue: Kingspan Breffni Pk

Referee: TBC

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Onlooker on March 01, 2013, 09:11:33 PM
Have heard good reports about the Cavan Under 21's.   Are they worth a bet to win Ulster this year.  4/1 looks to be a decent price.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on March 01, 2013, 09:42:01 PM
Quote from: Onlooker on March 01, 2013, 09:11:33 PM
Have heard good reports about the Cavan Under 21's.   Are they worth a bet to win Ulster this year.  4/1 looks to be a decent price.

I would say so yeah, playing Monaghan at home in the first round, Home advantage has been a big help for the u21 team over the last 3 years. Got to 3 Ulster Finals won 2, Breffni or Enniskillan have been the only grounds Cavan have played at since 2010.

Cavan were beaten by Longford in Januray in the Hastings Cup final, but Cavan weren't at full strenght. Longford won by 2, Cavan have been going well since then with a sronger team, Turloc Mooney is back aswell. A key player in the run to the All Ireland final in 2011.

If Cavan get over Monaghan its Armagh/Derry in the semi's. Cavan beat both sides last year, but all on the day.

Cavan would probaly have beaten Roscommon last year in the All Ireland Semi with a full strenght team, Barry Reilly the Captain was missing and Mooney, Paul Graham , Captain of the Cavan Minors 2011.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on March 01, 2013, 09:45:56 PM
I think Monaghan are a big threat in the first round. Cavan will have to be at their best. However, I'd fancy them to make the final if they win that round.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on March 01, 2013, 10:09:36 PM
Team for tomorrow, via twitter

AO'Mara,OMinagh,JMcEnroe,KClarke,KBrady,AClarke,DO'Reilly,TCorr,GMcKiernan,CMackey,MReilly,MMcKeever,NMcDermott,JBrady,DGivney v MH 7pm Sat
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on March 01, 2013, 11:03:06 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on March 01, 2013, 09:42:01 PM
Quote from: Onlooker on March 01, 2013, 09:11:33 PM
Have heard good reports about the Cavan Under 21's.   Are they worth a bet to win Ulster this year.  4/1 looks to be a decent price.

I would say so yeah, playing Monaghan at home in the first round, Home advantage has been a big help for the u21 team over the last 3 years. Got to 3 Ulster Finals won 2, Breffni or Enniskillan have been the only grounds Cavan have played at since 2010.

Cavan were beaten by Longford in Januray in the Hastings Cup final, but Cavan weren't at full strenght. Longford won by 2, Cavan have been going well since then with a sronger team, Turloc Mooney is back aswell. A key player in the run to the All Ireland final in 2011.

If Cavan get over Monaghan its Armagh/Derry in the semi's. Cavan beat both sides last year, but all on the day.

Cavan would probaly have beaten Roscommon last year in the All Ireland Semi with a full strenght team, Barry Reilly the Captain was missing and Mooney, Paul Graham , Captain of the Cavan Minors 2011.

Really?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on March 01, 2013, 11:07:37 PM
Quote from: Westside on March 01, 2013, 11:03:06 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on March 01, 2013, 09:42:01 PM
Quote from: Onlooker on March 01, 2013, 09:11:33 PM
Have heard good reports about the Cavan Under 21's.   Are they worth a bet to win Ulster this year.  4/1 looks to be a decent price.

I would say so yeah, playing Monaghan at home in the first round, Home advantage has been a big help for the u21 team over the last 3 years. Got to 3 Ulster Finals won 2, Breffni or Enniskillan have been the only grounds Cavan have played at since 2010.

Cavan were beaten by Longford in Januray in the Hastings Cup final, but Cavan weren't at full strenght. Longford won by 2, Cavan have been going well since then with a sronger team, Turloc Mooney is back aswell. A key player in the run to the All Ireland final in 2011.

If Cavan get over Monaghan its Armagh/Derry in the semi's. Cavan beat both sides last year, but all on the day.

Cavan would probaly have beaten Roscommon last year in the All Ireland Semi with a full strenght team, Barry Reilly the Captain was missing and Mooney, Paul Graham , Captain of the Cavan Minors 2011.

Really?

He made valuable contributions getting to the final, would you not think? Obviously he wasn't starting.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on March 01, 2013, 11:16:29 PM
I would have thought he played a very small role in the 2011 run. Made a short appearance against Fermanagh in the first round and played the second half of the Ulster Final as far as I can recall, not making little of his contribution especially as a lad that still had two years left at U21 level but I'd find it very hard to brand him as a "key player" that year. Hopefully he will be a key man this year.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on March 01, 2013, 11:21:47 PM
Quote from: Westside on March 01, 2013, 11:16:29 PM
I would have thought he played a very small role in the 2011 run. Made a short appearance against Fermanagh in the first round and played the second half of the Ulster Final as far as I can recall, not making little of his contribution especially as a lad that still had two years left at U21 level but I'd find it very hard to brand him as a "key player" that year. Hopefully he will be a key man this year.

Ah yeah, sure it was only Cavan first u21 title in how many years, He was the first sub used in the Ulster final and made a impact in that second half, for a lad that was only 19.,

Obviously he wasn't "a key"- key player as he wasn't starting
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on March 01, 2013, 11:33:45 PM
I'm well aware of the significance of the win Rodney, let's not get into an argument about the definition of 'key'. Hopefully he can put his injuries behind him and do well with Cavan this year, best of luck to the lad.

So I suppose McEnroe is the only surprise change for Terry for tomorrow night. It will be interesting to see if he starts at full back.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on March 01, 2013, 11:42:41 PM
Quote from: Westside on March 01, 2013, 11:33:45 PM
I'm well aware of the significance of the win Rodney, let's not get into an argument about the definition of 'key'. Hopefully he can put his injuries behind him and do well with Cavan this year, best of luck to the lad.

So I suppose McEnroe is the only surprise change for Terry for tomorrow night. It will be interesting to see if he starts at full back.

I should have just said key member of the panel..

McEnroe is a good player, in at full back is a big step for him though. Be great to get another win tomorrow night.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: scoopmine on March 02, 2013, 11:30:56 PM
A great win great attitude work rate and gameplan. Meath were very poor. Big trip to Sligo next weekend. Says alot about the form of G Mac and Corr at midfield that Givney is left in the FF line for most of the game.

A very positive evenings work!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on March 03, 2013, 12:39:52 AM
A great victory and from the sounds of things we were flying it in the first half. Meath were always going to show some fight but we never went less that 5 ahead. Two derby victories in a row will not only benefit the players hugely but it will pique the curiosity of the dormant support in Cavan, that in turn will help the momentum of the team.

We have beaten what many would have considered before the league to be the two best sides in the Division. Promotion is now a real possibility and the threat of relegation has eased somewhat, but survival is still not certain. If we can perform again against Sligo next week and get a result, we can really start to believe, with two home games and a Wicklow team on a bad run left after that. We will be without U21 players but Dunne and McCutcheon should be available again. There's a solid feel to the squad and Terry's influence is beginning to show, I really don't think this is a flash in the pan. There will be more bumps along the road but I really feel we are on the right track to becoming a solid outfit.

When was the last time Cavan won 3 games on the bounce?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on March 03, 2013, 08:50:46 AM
Very satisfying evenings work in Navan. We totally dominated the first half and should have been 15 points clear at half time, we made Meath look like a junior B team. However, we did kick a lot of bad wides too which is something that won't have pleased the manager. The second half we got the expected response from Meath and they got a goal which had to be illegal as there man was lying on the ground with ball in hand and the next thing its in the net. Yet again, umpires had not a clue what happened and the ref had no option, without any word to the contrary, to award a goal. However, something different happened then. Previous Cavan teams would have buckled but Mossy Corr said "NO" and made two powerful breaks upfield scoring a great point and winning a free (which was missed). Meath never got closer than 5 points thanks to some fine pressure from our hard working defence. Now at times in the 2nd half we made life harder than it needed to be, giving away some silly ball and over elaborating a bit. We also missed two "one on one's" with the Meath keeper (McDermott & McKiernan). Really we were a 10 point better team over the 70 minutes in my opinion.

For me Mackey was outstanding in the first half, a bit less in the 2nd (possible due to a nasty knock he took), Martin Reilly was excellent on the 40. McKiernan got his usual 3 points and he could've had more. Corr worked hard as did Alan Clarke. Givney had a good tussle with Menton which finished even I would say but when Meath got a bit of momentum coming into the last quarter, Givney came out and made some incredible catched in the middle of the field - you'd swear he had springs on his feet and glue on his hands!

Up front McDermott had a storming 2nd half, McKeever hit a beaut of a point and Jack was lively.We also had good showings from subs Fergal Flanagan and great to see Barry Reilly come on and land a peach. I was impressed by the defensive 6, really sticky giving very few soft frees and working extremely hard. Damien Reilly is most improved player I've seen in a long time. O Mara's has good direction on his kicks even if they are not as long as millers but the day of whacking it as far as you can from a kick out is long gone.

Overall a great result but a word of warning. This is still a team that is learning and we shouldnt suddenly expect them to win promotion and beat all around them. I said I'd be happy with a mid table finish in Div 3 and that still stands. However, promotion is still there and a win against Sligo would be a huge result. No U21's from now on though.

Well done to Terry Hyland and the squad, Monaghan and Meath bet. I feel better already.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on March 03, 2013, 11:25:35 AM
An important and very impressive performance last night from Cavan. Cian Mackey has been a revalation this year - the one year lay off from County football has brought him on. He is very hungry and his work rate is super. He always had good work rate but its more noticatble with the system Cavan are playing like the the u21's had been using for the past 3 years.

Another feature was 9 different players scored for Cavan, some relief for those who were crowing after only 2 players scored against Down on the 6th of Januray. ::)

If Cavan could manage a result next week in Sligo, Division 3 status would be close to being secured, and a great chance of promotion.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on March 03, 2013, 10:54:26 PM
It was a pleasure to witness the game on Saturday. Delighted the lads are getting some credit, they deserve it. Sligo will be tough but it is winnable, I believe they were very poor today. We are starting to look like a team now and we have some great options now with Dunne and Mccutcheon to come back and Keating getting close too. One warning though, we've beat the two favourites for promotion easily so no one will be taking us lightly from now on.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: packiedevlin on March 05, 2013, 03:10:50 PM
Lads, any thoughts on this years championship draws?

Any idea when these championships are going to be played?
It looks like senior and intermediate are knock-out, is there a back door system apart from that prelim in senior?

Does anyone get the impression that the county board are making this up as they go along?




Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on March 05, 2013, 03:17:48 PM
Quote from: packiedevlin on March 05, 2013, 03:10:50 PM
Lads, any thoughts on this years championship draws?

Any idea when these championships are going to be played?
It looks like senior and intermediate are knock-out, is there a back door system apart from that prelim in senior?

Does anyone get the impression that the county board are making this up as they go along?

There is no knock out, each first round/prelim loser will get a second chance.

This structure was proposed by the clubs in Cavan, if you have a problem with that you should talk to the committee of your club or even better go to the next AGM and join the committee.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: packiedevlin on March 05, 2013, 04:21:03 PM
Thanks for clearing that up Tommy.

Since you are so wise, can you tell me when the championships will start and will they be played one after the other or all together like previous years?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on March 05, 2013, 04:32:55 PM
From Hoganstand

1343259  Breffnisbest you would have to have seen it to really believe how amateurish the whole set up was. At the start of the Senior draw the Chairman pick out a ball from the glass bowl of his own accord with being told. The MC for the night then decided to interview Kevin Reilly from the Cccc to explain the draw setup. Then the chair decided to throw the ball back into the bowl. Could only happen in Cavan 

Real make it up as they go along stuff it seems.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on March 05, 2013, 04:45:01 PM
Quote from: packiedevlin on March 05, 2013, 04:21:03 PM
Thanks for clearing that up Tommy.

Since you are so wise, can you tell me when the championships will start and will they be played one after the other or all together like previous years?

The master fixture plan had only been completed until June, i think the remainder is due in the next few days.

I don't know what you mean here "will they be played one after the other or all together like previous years??"

The reserve championship will be run off in june/july and i would imagine the Senior/Intermediate/Junior will be a August start.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on March 06, 2013, 03:03:20 PM
I doubt clubs put in a structure for this to happen..

Both Cavan Gaels and Lacken have expressed their dissatisfaction over the senior football championship draw.

The sides are due to meet in a preliminary round of the championship, but given the nature of the draw they could again meet in the first round proper.

Lacken chairman Pauric Mahon stressed that they had no problem playing Cavan Gaels in the preliminary round, but added that to possibly meet them again in the first round would be unusual.

"We have no problem playing the Gaels but I thought they should have put in a provision before they made the draw that the teams couldn't meet that early in the championship," Mahon told the Anglo-Celt.

"Apparently there was no provision made for that according to the county board. It was an error they made, I'd say. I'm disappointed with it."

A Cavan Gaels source added: It's not fair on either club. I would have just thought that the winner of Game C, would have automatically dropped into the next position and the next two teams out would fulfil the fixtures."
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on March 06, 2013, 03:07:26 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on March 06, 2013, 03:03:20 PM
I doubt clubs put in a structure for this to happen..


Thats the county boards c**k up not the clubs.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on March 06, 2013, 03:08:35 PM
I know yeah.. bizarre thing to happen.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on March 06, 2013, 03:19:30 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on March 06, 2013, 03:08:35 PM
I know yeah.. bizarre thing to happen.

It not really fair on the clubs involved.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on March 06, 2013, 06:47:53 PM
Do people think Keating will be picked for Sunday? The Sligo game looks increasingly tough. It's hard to see us going in at half time with such a lead for the 3rd game in a row. If we get into a war of attrition against Sligo I hope the lads can show the nerve they have done at underage and shut out a tight game.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on March 06, 2013, 07:02:17 PM
Quote from: Westside on March 06, 2013, 06:47:53 PM
Do people think Keating will be picked for Sunday? The Sligo game looks increasingly tough. It's hard to see us going in at half time with such a lead for the 3rd game in a row. If we get into a war of attrition against Sligo I hope the lads can show the nerve they have done at underage and shut out a tight game.

He won't start anyway. I believe he is only just back training. In fact, I'd be surprised if he figured at all
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on March 06, 2013, 07:11:58 PM
Wouldn't be the end of the world if Keating doesn't make it. Dunne is available again and Barry Reilly, scored a lovely point when brought on against Meath.

James McEnroe had a good game against Meath and will probaly be full back again since Rory Dunne is injured. Be interesting to see what happens when Rory Dunne is back, McEnroe's best position would be in the half back line, preferrebly centre back, but Alan Clarke has been very solid, and has that position nailed.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on March 06, 2013, 10:21:42 PM
Monaghan U21s hammered Tyrone in the Shamrock Cup Final. This Tyrone team won the Minor All Ireland in 2010. This is going to be a very very tough first round.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on March 06, 2013, 10:42:09 PM
Quote from: Westside on March 06, 2013, 10:21:42 PM
Monaghan U21s hammered Tyrone in the Shamrock Cup Final. This Tyrone team won the Minor All Ireland in 2010. This is going to be a very very tough first round.

I agree. I'm hoping that Monaghan showed their hand in this game and we had someone there to watch that. That Tyrone team should be decent, you would wonder if the result is a true reflection.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on March 06, 2013, 10:45:49 PM
I don't Tyrone were playing the full hand.. Harte has a lot of them playing with the seniors, and they were more than likely rested for Cork at the weekend

Although Ronan O Neill was playing, He hasn't been starting this year with the seniors, only back from Injury.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on March 07, 2013, 12:32:18 AM
Tyrone had a strong team out rodney, the majority of the Tyrone team played on the 2010 Minor winning team. Monaghan folk are delighted with the victory and seem to be bullish about their chances in Ulster. They will go in as the underdog with nothing to lose, we are now a scalp at U21. It's going to be a very close tie, Monaghan shouldn't be underestimated.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on March 07, 2013, 12:44:49 AM
I don't think Cavan were ever going to ever underestimate them. Regardless of the Shamrock Cup win. Its a local derby game, they won't be as bad as Monaghan Seniors.

It's knock out football, no second chance. They will obviously be up for it.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on March 08, 2013, 06:38:03 PM
Team for weekend.  Team becoming consistent.

Cavan (FL v Sligo) - A O'Mara; K Brady, J McEnroe, O Minagh; K Meehan, A Clarke, D O'Reilly; T Corr, G McKiernan; C Mackey, M Reilly, M McKeever; N McDermott, M Dunne, D Givney.


Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on March 08, 2013, 07:14:30 PM
Quote from: Denn Forever on March 08, 2013, 06:38:03 PM
Team for weekend.  Team becoming consistent.

Cavan (FL v Sligo) - A O'Mara; K Brady, J McEnroe, O Minagh; K Meehan, A Clarke, D O'Reilly; T Corr, G McKiernan; C Mackey, M Reilly, M McKeever; N McDermott, M Dunne, D Givney.

Good luck to Cavan. Interesting that Meehan is in instead of McCutcheon but sure maybe he is going well in training so best of luck to him.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on March 08, 2013, 07:18:35 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on March 08, 2013, 07:14:30 PM
Quote from: Denn Forever on March 08, 2013, 06:38:03 PM
Team for weekend.  Team becoming consistent.

Cavan (FL v Sligo) - A O'Mara; K Brady, J McEnroe, O Minagh; K Meehan, A Clarke, D O'Reilly; T Corr, G McKiernan; C Mackey, M Reilly, M McKeever; N McDermott, M Dunne, D Givney.

Good luck to Cavan. Interesting that Meehan is in instead of McCutcheon but sure maybe he is going well in training so best of luck to him.

Will you have the kettle on myles?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on March 08, 2013, 07:44:07 PM
Quote from: tommysmith on March 08, 2013, 07:18:35 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on March 08, 2013, 07:14:30 PM
Quote from: Denn Forever on March 08, 2013, 06:38:03 PM
Team for weekend.  Team becoming consistent.

Cavan (FL v Sligo) - A O'Mara; K Brady, J McEnroe, O Minagh; K Meehan, A Clarke, D O'Reilly; T Corr, G McKiernan; C Mackey, M Reilly, M McKeever; N McDermott, M Dunne, D Givney.

Good luck to Cavan. Interesting that Meehan is in instead of McCutcheon but sure maybe he is going well in training so best of luck to him.

Will you have the kettle on myles?

Only if Rodney comes too.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on March 08, 2013, 07:46:02 PM
Quote from: Itchy on March 08, 2013, 07:44:07 PM
Quote from: tommysmith on March 08, 2013, 07:18:35 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on March 08, 2013, 07:14:30 PM
Quote from: Denn Forever on March 08, 2013, 06:38:03 PM
Team for weekend.  Team becoming consistent.

Cavan (FL v Sligo) - A O'Mara; K Brady, J McEnroe, O Minagh; K Meehan, A Clarke, D O'Reilly; T Corr, G McKiernan; C Mackey, M Reilly, M McKeever; N McDermott, M Dunne, D Givney.

Good luck to Cavan. Interesting that Meehan is in instead of McCutcheon but sure maybe he is going well in training so best of luck to him.

Will you have the kettle on myles?

Only if Rodney comes too.

Ay yeah, of course.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on March 09, 2013, 03:55:51 AM
Very inexperienced defence, would like to see McCutcheon in there. Hopefully Meehan can stake his claim though.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on March 09, 2013, 10:44:56 AM
Quote from: Westside on March 09, 2013, 03:55:51 AM
Very inexperienced defence, would like to see McCutcheon in there. Hopefully Meehan can stake his claim though.

I dont think McCutcheon will get back into that team being honest.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on March 09, 2013, 11:00:13 AM
Really tommy? I find that surprising.. Why do you think that? We wouldn't have any squad defenders as strong and athletic as McCutcheon. Meehan is a fairly light player and has yet to have what you'd call a storming game for Cavan. I would have thought McCutcheon and Clarke were going to be mainstays in our half back line for the year.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on March 09, 2013, 11:08:36 AM
Quote from: Westside on March 09, 2013, 11:00:13 AM
Really tommy? I find that surprising.. Why do you think that? We wouldn't have any squad defenders as strong and athletic as McCutcheon. Meehan is a fairly light player and has yet to have what you'd call a storming game for Cavan. I would have thought McCutcheon and Clarke were going to be mainstays in our half back line for the year.

Yes i agree that he is strong and athletic and one of the very best club footballs in the county but;

I feel that he lacks a small bit of pace that makes a difference at this level.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on March 09, 2013, 12:21:19 PM
Its been a while since we've had some depth in the panel. Lads know now that they have to work and train at a level above the norm to get a chance to show the manager they should be playing each week. Mccutcheon is good enough  and im sure hell get his chance again.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on March 09, 2013, 12:35:04 PM
Dermot Sheridan is supppose to be close to a return aswell, form might have been up and down with Cavan in the past, but he stood out last year with Mullahoran. Thought he was impressive against Errigal Ciaran last year despite the hiding they got.

Strong enough panel., which you need.  7/8 players who weren't involved last year have been brought back and that has made a improvement. McEnroe was working in Lodon last year, hence why he wasn't involved.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on March 09, 2013, 12:53:29 PM
Didn't think we'd see Sheridan in again, thought he was very much in the Johnston/Lyng bracket that we had seen the end of. Another lad that can add physicality to the team great that he's on board again.

PP have us as second favourites for promotion. The win against Monaghan is vital for more than the 2 points on the night but for the head to head. That's why (if we are to be in the hunt for promotion, perhaps it's tempting fate to be thinking that already) a win against Fermanagh would be equally as vital.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on March 09, 2013, 01:00:09 PM
Sheridan is probaly the best trainer on the Cavan panel
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on March 09, 2013, 07:34:33 PM
Best of luck to the lads tomorrow, I need a win personally so I can show my face about Sligo!

Tea shall be served afterwards.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on March 09, 2013, 08:15:32 PM
Monaghan and Fermanagh drawing at the moment. What would the best result be here for Cavan?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on March 09, 2013, 08:28:17 PM
Quote from: Westside on March 09, 2013, 08:15:32 PM
Monaghan and Fermanagh drawing at the moment. What would the best result be here for Cavan?
Monaghan 3 up, only few mins left. Not sure what best result is.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on March 09, 2013, 08:40:31 PM
As it stands if Cavan win tomorrow we go top of the division no matter what the other results. Lose and we can potentially drop to 5th but likely 4th. 
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on March 10, 2013, 09:20:22 AM
Lads it is very windy and very cold in Sligo today. Bring your thermal undwerwear and woolly hats.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on March 10, 2013, 04:55:14 PM
What a frustrating performance today. We really played poorly for long periods making crazy decisions and gifting Sligo possession, yet in the end we can say we were lucky to get the draw with a last minute goal from sub keating. Sligo were up for the game and played a swarm defence with a lot of intensity and frequently turned us over partly due to good defending and partly us making silly decisions. I honestly believe Sligo hit maybe 5/6 points from shocking Cavan play the worse being a quick Barry Reilly 5 straignt to the Sligo man standing in front of him. Our big guns didn't play well. Mackey started brightly but they got on top of him he ended up trying to do too much and making a mess of it. Givney caught ball in front of the Sligo posts but pretty much we got nothing out of it. Sligos 2nd goal was a terrible keeper mistake and Alan O Meara won't want to see it again - we'll say no more about it. Alan struggled with his kickouts in the 2nd half so when he went off injured Millers kicks were better. The other two subs (Barry Reilly & Keaing) that came on got us back into it. Barry Reilly did really well, setting up numerous chances and kicking some good frees. He then put in a brilliant ball for the equalising goal and big Eugene met it and slapped it home.

So in the end we came from 6 points down, got level, played very poorly and went 5 points down and yet we still fought back. I reckon it is a good point won and if we can turn over Fermanagh we are in with a great shot at going up. At least the young lads got a real taste of what a hard hitting swarm defence can do and they kept going till the end and got their reward.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on March 10, 2013, 05:38:09 PM
Wasn't at the game. Cavan would have taken the result after being down by 6 at one stage in the first half,. Still great to battle back and snatch a draw. It would be like a win, considering the game was almost up, a point and then the goal in the last minute.

Barry Reilly was supppose to be very impressive when he came on, spraying good ball and getting getting on the end of moves. A quality player, imagine he will be starting against Fermangh, Keating back aswell, so there is more options with the u21's missing.

The next 2 games are both home and then Wicklow away in the final game,  it's in Cavans own hands to make the push and get promotion now.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on March 10, 2013, 05:46:29 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on March 10, 2013, 05:38:09 PM
Wasn't at the game. Cavan would have taken the result after being down by 6 at one stage in the first half,. Still great to battle back and snatch a draw. It would be like a win, considering the game was almost up, a point and then the goal in the last minute.

Barry Reilly was supppose to be very impressive when he came on, spraying good ball and getting getting on the end of moves. A quality player, imagine he will be starting against Fermangh, Keating back aswell, so there is more options with the u21's missing.

The next 2 games are both home and then Wicklow away in the final game,  it's in Cavans own hands to make the push and get promotion now.

Barry Reilly made a big difference. Seemed to get on the ball which Martin Reilly struggled to do.

I though it was Fermanagh home then Wicklow away, finishing with Ros at home in final round.

I think with that run it, we would have taken having 5 points heading into the last 3 games.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on March 10, 2013, 05:57:27 PM
Sleoppy game overall by Cavan today but showed good fight to come back from 6 points down and then 5 points down. Our full back line was poor, we made lots of silly errors. O'Mara made a serious mess of a ball in for the second goal. Don't know what was going on with the 45 towards the end. It reminded me of games in the previous few years where we would find ourselves behind due to bad defending, get back level with good work up front and then mess it up at the back again. At least we got the draw though it is a vital point. Barry Reilly instrumental in getting the result.

The draw puts Cavan in a good position.. Monaghan look to be nailed on to go up and it will be a fight out between the rest for second spot. Cavan have possibly the kindest set of fixtures left with Fermanagh at home, Wicklow away and then Roscommon at home for the final game. Relegation seems unlikely and if we are to get promoted we need to earn it and replicate the Monaghan/Meath performances in our last 3 games. The Fermanagh game will probably decide it.

Well done to the lads today, Cavan teams in the past wouldn't have got that point.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: bottom brick on March 10, 2013, 06:06:51 PM
POS      TEAM                           PWLD       POINTS
1           MONAGHAN               4  3 1 0           6
2           FERMANAGH              4  2 1 1           5
3           CAVAN                         4  2 1 1           5
4           ANTRIM                       4  1 1 2           4
5           MEATH                        4  2 2 0           4
6           ROSCOMMON            4  1 2 1           3
7           SLIGO                          4  1 2 1           3
8           WICKLOW                   4  0 2 2           2
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: PhilsJemmysField on March 11, 2013, 11:42:11 AM
Shaping up for a big game vs Fermanagh so should be a bit of fun in Breffni. At least means there will be a bit of interest in the county. Barry O sounds like he is on the way back and Ward is a threat so will be a tough outing
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: packiedevlin on March 11, 2013, 01:20:31 PM
Yes it is Fermanagh at home, Wicklow away then Roscommon at home in the last game.

Seemingly, O Mara broke a bone in his hand yesterday so will be out for a while.

Very good come back yesterday to snatch a draw but we could still go either way, even if we do beat Fermanagh there's no guarantee of promotion and it would be foolish to think so. Wicklow will be very tough away especially with Hannon back and the Rossies will have the Bridgets players back for the last game .. there is a long way to go yet!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on March 11, 2013, 01:28:41 PM
Saw this on a thread on the main board.  Do Cavan do anything similar?

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 11, 2013, 12:55:35 PM
Hats off to the Antrim county board at the weekend, they ran a very professional referees health and fitness test at Rathmore school.

This provided the referees and the people looking after the referees a idea of their fitness levels and a basic health check which included a BMI, blood pressure, and cholesterol check (mine sitting at 5.1 >:()

They also did a beep test, which shocked everyone, the look on their faces  :P, must were fooked after the warm up lol!! Fair play and hope it continues and is being done in all counties
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on March 11, 2013, 01:49:30 PM
Quote from: packiedevlin on March 11, 2013, 01:20:31 PM
Yes it is Fermanagh at home, Wicklow away then Roscommon at home in the last game.

Seemingly, O Mara broke a bone in his hand yesterday so will be out for a while.

Very good come back yesterday to snatch a draw but we could still go either way, even if we do beat Fermanagh there's no guarantee of promotion and it would be foolish to think so. Wicklow will be very tough away especially with Hannon back and the Rossies will have the Bridgets players back for the last game .. there is a long way to go yet!


They will no doubt be tough games, but having 2 out of 3 games at home is an advantage. Wicklow have improved from the poor start they had, drawing yesterday with Antrim and getting a last minute goal last week to get a draw with Roscommon.

I thought it was Seanie Furlong who was back, Hannon retired.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: packiedevlin on March 11, 2013, 02:15:06 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on March 11, 2013, 01:49:30 PM
Quote from: packiedevlin on March 11, 2013, 01:20:31 PM


I thought it was Seanie Furlong who was back, Hannon retired.

Apologies, I meant Furlong.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: PhilsJemmysField on March 12, 2013, 08:46:53 AM
Cavan have been doing fitness tests and rule book test on refs for a few years now. With at least some controversy in ref circles with one lad being told he could not get championship games because he was failing part of the test.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on March 12, 2013, 10:53:58 AM
Didn't know that.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on March 15, 2013, 10:02:31 PM
JReilly, KBrady, JMcEnroe, OMinagh, PReilly, AClarke, DO'Reilly, TCorr, GMcKiernan, CMackey, MReilly, KMeehan, NMcDermott, MDunne, DGivney.

So just Padraig Reilly comes in from the team that started v Sligo, Meehan moves to wing forward. Good continuity for the team here and Keating and Barry are nice options to have from the bench. Local derby, anything could happen. Let's hope we get the Meath type performance again.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on March 15, 2013, 10:50:11 PM
Good luck to the lads tomorrow, 3 derby wins would be fantastic. If we apply ourselves to the best of our abilities we should have enough to win.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on March 17, 2013, 09:40:41 AM
Very disappointing result for Cavan last night. Although we did play poorly and again made way too many silly mistakes I think the sending off after 7 mins of Damien Reilly was too much for us to overcome. Now the ref was right beside it but I had a decent enough view myself and to me it looked like the Fermanagh player was rugby tackling Reilly and then took a swing with the boot at him as he (fermanagh player) lay on the ground. Reilly was stumbling and stood on his chest - whether that was intentional or not I couldnt say but in fairness the ref was right there. However the ref didnt apply the same strictness to Fermanagh, there was a viscous attempted right hook that didn't make contact, right in front of the ref, which was only a yellow card (I thought that was a straight red). A headbutt on Keating when he came on (again it may not have made contact) which resulted in only a yellow and when Fermanagh finally got their red it was too late. However Owens should get 6 months for what he did, pulling Ronan Flanagan to the ground and after the ref blew for a free he drew a full-force kick at Flanagan who lay on the ground - trampish act. Fermanaghs penalty was another huge turning point. Many in the crowd said that both Reilly and Ward caught the ball so it should have been thrown up but for me Reilly in the goal, caught and dropped the ball into Wards hands and then pulled at it which meant it was a penalty. Anyway, promotion is gone bar some miraculous results but we need a win to be sure to stay up.

Anyway, the league has shown us what we have and don't have and I think the following needs to be ironed out...

Keeper - Millers kick outs were shocking last night, having the midfielders scrambling to get near the ball. He either needs to start working on this or be replaced. His casual attitude with the ball in hand cost us a peno, he played a suicidal hand pass that he was lucky to get away with too. A Fermanagh man fisted a ball over the bar from 1 yard out in the 1st half. Have to say O Mara was missed last night.

Corner backs were badly exposed too. Especially Brady I thought. Hyland needs to answer whether he thinks Brady will improve another 20-30% before the championship.

Keating/Givney - need to decide who plays where and stop f**k acting moving lads around. Givney needs to settle down a bit and start taking the simple options. Too often his brain is working faster than his feet. Get back to the basics David and you'll be an excellent player for us. Keating is our only player with the power and strength to walk through tackles but for me he needs to do it 20 meters from the goal, not out at the 45.

Gearoid - needs to up hie fitness and work rate and improve his tackling. Too many fouls, he'll get himself sent off.

Management - went with the wrong team. Corr should've started. Barry Reilly clearly not fit for a full game so bring him on in 2nd half. Poor assesment of his fitness level. We need to get our forwards take on their man the odd time and maybe get away or draw a foul.

Work rate - first game this year I felt a couple of lads did not put it in to the same level as previous games. Maybe training was tough this week, I don't know but it cost us.

For me, a championship team is shaping up something like this...

O Mara, Minagh, Clarke, McEnroe, McKeever, Clarke, D O Reilly, Corr, McKiernan, Mackey, B Reilly, Givney, Dunne, Keating, J Brady
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on March 18, 2013, 09:12:01 AM
Yes, well done to Paul Brady, a sporting legend. He can retire (if he chooses to) and look back on his career and achievements with great pride.

Where the hell has everyone gone on this thread? BHM, Boojangles etc have gone missing!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: warrie on March 18, 2013, 11:24:48 AM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on March 17, 2013, 09:40:41 AM
Very disappointing result for Cavan last night. Although we did play poorly and again made way too many silly mistakes I think the sending off after 7 mins of Damien Reilly was too much for us to overcome. Now the ref was right beside it but I had a decent enough view myself and to me it looked like the Fermanagh player was rugby tackling Reilly and then took a swing with the boot at him as he (fermanagh player) lay on the ground. Reilly was stumbling and stood on his chest - whether that was intentional or not I couldnt say but in fairness the ref was right there. However the ref didnt apply the same strictness to Fermanagh, there was a viscous attempted right hook that didn't make contact, right in front of the ref, which was only a yellow card (I thought that was a straight red). A headbutt on Keating when he came on (again it may not have made contact) which resulted in only a yellow and when Fermanagh finally got their red it was too late. However Owens should get 6 months for what he did, pulling Ronan Flanagan to the ground and after the ref blew for a free he drew a full-force kick at Flanagan who lay on the ground - trampish act. Fermanaghs penalty was another huge turning point. Many in the crowd said that both Reilly and Ward caught the ball so it should have been thrown up but for me Reilly in the goal, caught and dropped the ball into Wards hands and then pulled at it which meant it was a penalty. Anyway, promotion is gone bar some miraculous results but we need a win to be sure to stay up.

Anyway, the league has shown us what we have and don't have and I think the following needs to be ironed out...

Keeper - Millers kick outs were shocking last night, having the midfielders scrambling to get near the ball. He either needs to start working on this or be replaced. His casual attitude with the ball in hand cost us a peno, he played a suicidal hand pass that he was lucky to get away with too. A Fermanagh man fisted a ball over the bar from 1 yard out in the 1st half. Have to say O Mara was missed last night.

Corner backs were badly exposed too. Especially Brady I thought. Hyland needs to answer whether he thinks Brady will improve another 20-30% before the championship.

Keating/Givney - need to decide who plays where and stop f**k acting moving lads around. Givney needs to settle down a bit and start taking the simple options. Too often his brain is working faster than his feet. Get back to the basics David and you'll be an excellent player for us. Keating is our only player with the power and strength to walk through tackles but for me he needs to do it 20 meters from the goal, not out at the 45.

Gearoid - needs to up hie fitness and work rate and improve his tackling. Too many fouls, he'll get himself sent off.

Management - went with the wrong team. Corr should've started. Barry Reilly clearly not fit for a full game so bring him on in 2nd half. Poor assesment of his fitness level. We need to get our forwards take on their man the odd time and maybe get away or draw a foul.

Work rate - first game this year I felt a couple of lads did not put it in to the same level as previous games. Maybe training was tough this week, I don't know but it cost us.

For me, a championship team is shaping up something like this...

O Mara, Minagh, Clarke, McEnroe, McKeever, Clarke, D O Reilly, Corr, McKiernan, Mackey, B Reilly, Givney, Dunne, Keating, J Brady

O Mara to replace Reilly now that is a good one, I agree Reilly has to go but O Mara cannot even get starting with his club.
Bringing on Flannagan has sent a huge message to the rest of the subs, its okay for Flannagan not to train or play football for several months he will get started before you so why the F**k bother its a waste of time putting in the effort.
Forde a disgrace hyland lack of vision and understanding so many negatives to be seen all over the park it does not bode well for the future.
win two games revert back to the same old crap we are the champions of the world the sooner they realise they are a 5/8 junior team the sooner we will start to remove the trash and bring the level headed young men who have not got their heads up their arse to bring us to the next level.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: beer baron on March 18, 2013, 12:07:11 PM
Warrie that's an awful negative post(though i would agree with parts of it) but the bit about heads up there arse which is normally used against Gaels lads(maybe you didn't mean it that way) but Dunne in my opinion was a credit to himself and his club the weekend,worked his socks off and has a great attitude from what i've seen of him.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cogito on March 18, 2013, 12:13:27 PM
Very honest and precise report of the game Myles,  fair play. Always keep an eye on the board, the Cavan one is usually one of most informative and keenly debated boards on the entire site.

I see Warrie has joined and what a positive chap he looks set to be. Any Cavan supporter can see the improvements from last year and beat Meath and Monaghan, the two teams that came down from Division Two so something must be going right. We certainly could have more points but this is a young team and you just have to trust they are learning all the time. Cavan have been competitive in every game this year. Correct me if I am wrong but they have lost two league games, both by two points. That is a far cry from previous years.

I find it hard to believe a fella playing with his county doesn't get playing with his club. I'm sure other posters will have more information on that but no manager would invite a player in to their county panel if there wasn't a legitimate reason. And though a lad hasn't played for months, does not mean he isn't training.

You have called the two men behind your county's revitalisation at underage level a disgrace and said they are lacking in vision. I'd suggest looking in the mirror on those two fronts.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on March 18, 2013, 12:36:11 PM
Not sure what is going on in Bailieboro but O Mara hasn't been involved with them this year or last year. Maybe there has been a falling out but I think the implication warrie makes is wrong, i.e. he's not good enough to make the team. Bailieboros other Keeper Gilsenan transferred to Killinkere too and he was on the bench for Cavan on Saturday. All is not well in  bailieboro but that doesn't mean O Mara can't be on the county panel in my opinion.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: warrie on March 18, 2013, 12:56:01 PM
Quote from: cogito on March 18, 2013, 12:13:27 PM
Very honest and precise report of the game Myles,  fair play. Always keep an eye on the board, the Cavan one is usually one of most informative and keenly debated boards on the entire site.

I see Warrie has joined and what a positive chap he looks set to be. Any Cavan supporter can see the improvements from last year and beat Meath and Monaghan, the two teams that came down from Division Two so something must be going right. We certainly could have more points but this is a young team and you just have to trust they are learning all the time. Cavan have been competitive in every game this year. Correct me if I am wrong but they have lost two league games, both by two points. That is a far cry from previous years.

I find it hard to believe a fella playing with his county doesn't get playing with his club. I'm sure other posters will have more information on that but no manager would invite a player in to their county panel if there wasn't a legitimate reason. And though a lad hasn't played for months, does not mean he isn't training.

You have called the two men behind your county's revitalisation at underage level a disgrace and said they are lacking in vision. I'd suggest looking in the mirror on those two fronts.

I have been a member for a long time now but its sole destroying reading what one perceives to be positive improvements. Yes some for sure it goes without question but too many carriers on this panel time to extradite them and concentrate on the young lads and if it it takes 5 years to make men and players out of them with a vision and disciplined it will be five years well wort waiting for.
I was at the match also and I saw how easy it was for Fermanagh to play up the right wing and one could say 90% of their scores came from this route was there any effort to stop it no sadly no effort from management to make changes, Forde would have been far better off doing his job as the runner instead of remonstrating with the ref and officials he sadly needs to be spoken too. Was he playing to the stand thinking this is what we want or is it just that he has no control of his emotions ??
I can understand the frustration tactics that came from Fermanagh but Cavan fell for it hook line and sinker. The job of the players is to play football not to try and ref it as well.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on March 18, 2013, 01:09:00 PM
With respect Warrie you are a member since august 12 but why write your first post today? Why not after good wins against Monaghan and Meath? I agree with you about Forde, he needs to calm down. He was going mad the whole match! You need to remember too that fermanagh had an extra man, it may not have been the cause of all their overlaps but it was for some. No point over reacting to this loss.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: warrie on March 18, 2013, 01:50:48 PM
August 12 2012 and I see you are since October 2012 ?? The fact I make a post now is my choice but it would seem if its not to you & others liking one is being negative or against Cavan so I will move on.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on March 18, 2013, 03:05:34 PM
Everyone seems to be almost over looking the fact that we played 65 odd minutes with 14 men. That is a massive massive disadvantage in what was always going to be a closely fought game. Did we play well? No. Could the result of this game have been different had we kept 15 players on the field? Quite possibly.

The naysayers are out again despite the fact that this is just the second loss, we have lads over on HS calling for Terry's head!! Crazy stuff. We finally seem to have rid ourselves of the "X Y and Z should be on the panel and then we'd get promotion" yet we are still stuck with the fools who turn on the management and the players after a defeat, no matter what the manner of the defeat. We have been very competitive this year, no sign of the hammerings we received against Wexford and Antrim last year. We need to sharpen up our game in defence and the lads need to be spoken to about their discipline, you cannot afford to be playing games a man down. We are on the right track.

Anyone care to hazard a guess at the U21 team that will start on Wed night?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on March 18, 2013, 03:43:16 PM
Fermanagh deserved the win. It was a big ask for Cavan after losing Damian Reilly after 7 minutes, sometimes it can spur a team on being down a player , probaly would have needed a goal, The goal at the end came too late. Cavan never created any goal chances unfortunately.

Only a 2 point defeat like the Antrim game, Cavan have been competitive in all the games.

Hopefully the u21's can do the business on Wednesday.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on March 18, 2013, 04:29:38 PM
Quote from: warrie on March 18, 2013, 01:50:48 PM
August 12 2012 and I see you are since October 2012 ?? The fact I make a post now is my choice but it would seem if its not to you & others liking one is being negative or against Cavan so I will move on.
No one asked u to move on bud, don't be so sensitive.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on March 18, 2013, 06:49:33 PM
Does anyone know why Terry Hyland has so many enemies? His record as a manager is outstanding so why is it that a sizable minority jump all over his every mistake or any loss his teams suffer. Is just old fashioned begrudgery or is there something else going on. People should be grateful for he brought success after many barren years.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on March 18, 2013, 07:48:04 PM
Quote from: Itchy on March 18, 2013, 06:49:33 PM
Does anyone know why Terry Hyland has so many enemies? His record as a manager is outstanding so why is it that a sizable minority jump all over his every mistake or any loss his teams suffer. Is just old fashioned begrudgery or is there something else going on. People should be grateful for he brought success after many barren years.

Every Cavan manager becomes the enemy. Cavan support could be brilliant (and I believe will be again) with anything approaching moderate success, even competitiveness. But we have a large number of people who believe themselves to be absolute authorities on footballing matters. This is combined with a great passion for Cavan football and a deeply ingrained skepticism caused by years of failure and one of the most dramatic falls from greatness in GAA History.

There's a good thesis to be written on the psychology behind Cavan footballing support.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: PhilsJemmysField on March 19, 2013, 02:55:56 PM
Just so you all know Conor Gilseanin tried to move to Killinkere but transfer did not go through. So will be interesting to see if he gets a game with Bailieborough now. Anyway leaving all that to one side very dissapointing that Cavan did not show any real appetite for a battle on Saturday night. Our big men in the middle did not really seem interested once they had men standing on their toes. Which is hardly a very original way of dealing with a midfielder so they may get used to that treatment. At this stage if we can hold Div 3 with two good final results and get another strong run in the U21 then  maybe can still  be seen as a positive spring.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on March 19, 2013, 03:12:43 PM
Quote from: PhilsJemmysField on March 19, 2013, 02:55:56 PM
Just so you all know Conor Gilseanin tried to move to Killinkere but transfer did not go through. So will be interesting to see if he gets a game with Bailieborough now. Anyway leaving all that to one side very dissapointing that Cavan did not show any real appetite for a battle on Saturday night. Our big men in the middle did not really seem interested once they had men standing on their toes. Which is hardly a very original way of dealing with a midfielder so they may get used to that treatment. At this stage if we can hold Div 3 with two good final results and get another strong run in the U21 then  maybe can still  be seen as a positive spring.

Thanks for the update Re Gilsenan. Any idea what is going on with Bailieboro, we played them last week and neither O'Maras or Gilsenan was in goals for them. Seems very odd to have such players at your disposal and have none of them playing? There must be something very unhealthy going on down there, shame given the great history of the club.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: PhilsJemmysField on March 20, 2013, 09:31:53 AM
s game in breffni at 8 tonight, anybody any idea on a team
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on March 20, 2013, 04:39:57 PM
No word on the team, probaly won't be announced until throw in at 8 o'clock.

Good luck to the u21's.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on March 20, 2013, 05:07:13 PM
Check the time of throw-in.  HS say 7.30.  We can also say that our teams are attending bootcamp.

Cavan begin the defence of their Ulster under-21 football title when Monaghan visit Breffni Park tonight.

Throw in for the match will be at 7.30pm and a large crowd is expected to attend as hopes are high that the home side can go on and defend their title.

There are ten of last year's ten available for this year's campaign and many feel that they are even stronger than the 2012 side.

Cavan agree barracks deal
20 March 2013


Cavan teams will use the facilities at Dun Ui Neill barracks.Cavan GAA and the local VEC have joined in a five-year partnership deal that will see all county teams use the facilities at Dun Ui Neill barracks.

Cavan teams will have the use of all facilities at the barracks which include a gym, playing pitch and canteen. The Cavan County Board will maintain the grounds also.

While, the VEC football teams will be allowed avail of the strength and conditioning coaching available within the county board.

Speaking to the Anglo-Celt, county board chairman Tom Reilly said: "It's a very exciting development and we're delighted to secure it.

"We will have the use of the whole facility so it will be a win-win for everyone."



Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on March 20, 2013, 10:57:57 PM
Good game of football tonight. Nothing much between the teams in the first half, then the second half Cavan came out strong and were up by 5, a brillant finish by Paul O Connor. Who showed well the whole came, was taken off before ex time started. Jason McGloughlin had a great game, made some strong runs up the field, very willing player and tenacious. Cavan midfield wasn't getting a lot of breaks, Michael Argue tried hard, but will have better days.. He was replaced by Karl Duke. It looked like the Hastings Cup final all over again, up by 5 and throwing away the lead. Cavan had chances to win the game at the end of normal time, but a few wield shots went astray and Enda Reilly was unlucky to hit the post.

Cavan were the better side in extra time, and dominated, Joe Dillon who came on in the second half of normal time , was very good in extra time, and his freshness was a big help. kicked 2 excellent scores as did Connor Madden.

Connor Moynagh made an appearance in the last 2 minutes. I thought Turloch Mooney was having a great game and was taken off but brought back on again in extra time.

I think Cavan maybe need to be more clinical the next time against Down. Wasted a lot of ball aswell. Still great to be in another Ulster semi
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on March 20, 2013, 11:04:17 PM
Epic game of football and well done to our lads. These u21 teams would make you proud to have them represent you.  The strength in depth on the line won it for us in the end. Another tough game coming up against Down.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on March 20, 2013, 11:07:11 PM
Ciaran Brady must have done the cruciate, he was in a lot of agony on the ground.

It is a fairly strong panel. Paul Graham didn't even feature , possibly carrying a knock.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on March 20, 2013, 11:12:02 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on March 20, 2013, 11:07:11 PM
Ciaran Brady must have done the cruciate, he was in a lot of agony on the ground.

It is a fairly strong panel. Paul Graham didn't even feature , possibly carrying a knock.
Hopefully not.
McLoughlin and Mooney were outstanding and what an impact Madden had. I was real worried about that game but thankfully the boys dug it out.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on March 20, 2013, 11:23:55 PM
Dara McVeety played a vital role as a sweeper in the half back line. Won some amount of breaks, and used the ball well. He was always alert and made good use of the possesion. Hopefully more of the same against Down.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on March 20, 2013, 11:47:46 PM
Ulster U21 FC: Cavan KO Monaghan AET
20 March 2013
Classy Cavan beat Monaghan by 1-16 to 1-12 after extra time at Breffni Park.

The winners cranked it up a gear during the additional twenty minutes, outscoring their opponents by seven points to three to advance at the end of a real battle.

Cavan's Enda O'Reilly and Monaghan's Shane Carey traded frees early on. O'Reilly's tenth-minute free edged the hosts back ahead and this time it was visiting captain Keith McEnaney who levelled the scores.

Carey's free put the visitors into the lead for the first time and the same player then added his third free: 0-4 to 0-2 to Monaghan.

Daniel McKenna put three between them but Paul O'Connor responded for the Breffni men, 0-5 to 0-3.

A brace of O'Reilly points drew Cavan level, 0-5 each, before Jack Brady and goalkeeper Conor Gilsenan made it 0-7 to 0-5 in favour of the Breffni County. Corner back Ciaran Brady slotted Cavan's sixth successive point in the 30th minute.

Monaghan goalkeeper Rory Beggan closed the first-half scoring from a free: 0-8 to 0-6 at the interval.

Cavan got the perfect start to the second half when O'Connor netted in the 33rd minute but Jack McCarron and Thomas Connolly replied before the former registered a three-pointer to tie the scores up again after 42 minutes: 1-8 each.

As the scores dried up and the tension mounted, frees from Carey and O'Reilly (58) ensured that it was still all-square with two minutes of normal time left.

That was how it finished which meant we went into extra time...

Monaghan had been reduced to 14 men when Carey received a second yellow in injury time but they were restored to the full complement for the two additional ten-minute periods.

Thomas Kerr got the Farney men off to a good start in the first additional period but Cavan then took control with an uninterrupted run of scores from Andy Graham, Joe Dillon and Conor Madden (2) - 1-13 to 1-10 at the end of the first half of extra time.

The hosts were down to 14 men when Aaron Watson was dismissed for an off-the-ball incident at the start of the second added period but that didn't stop Dillon from striking a stunning 71st-minute point over his own head.

Jack Brady's precise long-range free made it a five-point match with six minutes left. Christopher McKenna pointed to give Monaghan a glimmer of home but that flickering flame was extinguished when O'Reilly curled over a free to make it 1-16 to 1-11.

The losers mustered one more late consolation point but it was Cavan who progressed to an April 3rd semi-final date with Down.

Cavan - C Gilsenan (0-1); J McLoughlin, K Clarke, C Brady (0-1); D McVitty, D Sexton, F Flanagan; B Sankey, M Argue; G Smith, C Conroy, T Mooney; E O'Reilly (0-5, 4f), P O'Connor (1-2, 0-1f), J Brady (0-2, 1f). Subs: C Madden (0-2) for Conroy, A Watson for C Brady, J Dillon (0-1) for Mooney, A Graham (0-2) for O'Connor, C Moynagh for Sexton, T Mooney for Sankey, P Flynn for McLoughlin.

Monaghan - R Beggan (0-1f); R Wylie, C Boyle, P McGuigan; C Cromwell, J McGuigan, P McKenna; S Sherry, P Dooney; T Connolly (0-1), S Carey (0-4f), S O'Brien; T Kerr (0-1), K McEnaney (0-1), D McKenna (0-1). Subs: B McQuaid for Cromwell, J McCarron (1-2, 0-2f) for O'Brien, L Hahessy, C McKenna (0-1) for D McKenna.

Referee - E McHugh.

Anyone else remember seeing Watson red carded??
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on March 21, 2013, 01:05:50 AM
I don't remember Watson being red carded? In fact I remember noting surprise at seeing him come on and thought he was playing well and doing well when he got on the ball.. Perhaps we just missed the dismissal in the madness?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on March 21, 2013, 09:07:03 AM
Well done to our lads last night. Couldnt make the game but was following nervously on the excellent anglo-celt blog (better than listening to that shite on Northern Sound). Seemed like an exciting game and indeed it looks like our strong panel got us over the line. Great to see Mooney back. That was a real banana skin and now we need to go and get over Monaghan.
Big surprise Tyrone going out on the other side. I think if we can stay focused we can win this out again.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on March 21, 2013, 02:07:23 PM
Wasn't aware of Watson getting a red card. I think I remember him in a off the ball incident, didn't think the ref flashed a red card. He was lively enough when he came on, made one shocking hand pass to jack brady though, which led to a Monaghan attack
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on March 21, 2013, 03:25:50 PM
Dillon hit two good scores when he came on but looked rusty at times too, fumbled the ball and coughed up possession 2/3 times. Albeit under pressure. But his two scores were vital and show what he has to offer. I thought Mooney played brilliantly until he tired. Gerard Smith and McVeety were the basis for the victory though, both calm and assured.

It will be interesting to see if Peter makes many unforced changes the next day. I hope he takes a leaf out of Terry's book and sticks with a similar side as started last night.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on March 21, 2013, 04:16:58 PM
I would like to see a change at midfield the next day, unless Argue up's his game, because he was a passenger for long stages yesterday. Mooney at midfield and Dillon half forward.

Connor Moyngh is back but hardly ready to start a full game.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on March 23, 2013, 03:35:55 PM
Game confirmed for 2.30 tomorrow, dogfight predicted


JReilly,OMinagh,JMcEnroe, PReilly,JHayes,AClarke,JMcCutcheon,TCorr,GMcKiernan,CMackey,DGivney,MReilly,NMcDermott,EKeating,MDunne.WW Sun 2.30
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on March 23, 2013, 03:52:11 PM
Meehan and Brady were poor last time out so fair enough replacing them. Podge for me though hasn't the pace for corner back. Bizarre Mccutcheon in but couldn't even get a run as a sub last week, perhaps he had a knock. Is McKeever back from his trip yet? Keating in but let's hope he stays near the posts. Won't be an easy game this.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on March 24, 2013, 09:54:23 PM
Well done to the seniors today, not an easy venue to get a result from. Match report from the Celt...



Cavan's promotion hopes are still intact – barely – after they came through a gruelling test against Division 3 bottom side Wicklow at a freezing Aughrim today (Sunday).

The Breffni men played with the benefit of a gale-force breeze in the opening half but wasted a host of scoring opportunities as they craved out a precarious four-point interval lead, 0-8 to 0-4.

Cavan had 19 shots on goal in the opening half but poor decision-making and wasteful shooting kept the hosts in the game.

Wicklow led by 0-3 to 0-1 after eight minutes following points from Nicky Mernagh and Seanie Furlong (two frees), with Cian Mackey's excellent point on the run Cavan's only response.

Terry Hyland's men bossed the remainder of the half, however, with Gearoid McKiernan and the excellent Tomás Corr battling well at midfield, and scores from Martin Dunne (two from play and two frees), Eugene Keating, Martin Reilly and Corr saw them hit the front.

They picked up where they left off in the second half, Niall McDermott – who had a fine game – sending them 0-9 to 0-5 in front seconds into the half.

They missed a succession of chances before Furlong nicked two frees to draw his side to within two.

Cavan huffed and puffed but a litany of errors saw them fail to blow a resilient, but limited, Wicklow away but the introduction of Barry Reilly, Declan McKiernan and Ronan Flanagan – and the late dismissal of Wicklow's Steven Coen – finally swung things their way.

Four points in as many minutes from Dunne, who terrorised the full-back line, Declan McKiernan and Barry Reilly sealed the win and while Wicklow had the final say through Mernagh, Cavan ran out worthy three-point winners.

With Roscommon beating Monaghan and the Antrim v Meath match postponed, the win gives Hyland's side a lively outside chance of promotion going into the final round, where they will face Roscommon in Brefni Park.

Among those to impress were Corr, Martin Reilly, Martin Dunne and Gearoid McKiernan, while Declan McKiernan and Ronan Flanagan did very well when introduced.



Wicklow: J Flynn, D Power, L Benson, A Byrne, D Hayden, S Coen, D Healy, J Stafford, A McLoughlin, N Mernagh (0-3), P MacWalters, JP Dalton, S Furlong (0-5, all frees), A O'Malley (0-1), R Finn

Subs: J McGrath (0-2, one 45) for O'Malley (46 mins), P Dalton for Finn (51 mins), D Woods for MacWalters (51 mins)



Cavan: J Reilly, J Hayes, J McEnroe, O Minagh, P O'Reilly, A Clarke, J McCutcheon, T Corr (0-1), G McKiernan, C Mackey (0-1), M Reilly (0-1), N McDermott (0-1), D Givney, E Keating (0-1), M Dunne (0-7, 3f)

Subs: D McKiernan (0-1) for Keating (ht), K Meehan for Minagh (ht), R Flanagan for Hayes (50 mins), B Reilly (0-1) for Givney (55 mins)

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Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: PhilsJemmysField on March 25, 2013, 11:49:51 AM
So basically we need Antrim to do Cavan two favours, to gain promotion and we beat Roscommon which will be tight enough

Team          Pld    Won    Draw    Lost    For    Against    Diff    Points
Fermanagh    6    4    1    1    94    72    22    9
Monaghan    6    4    0    2    90    68    22    8
Cavan            6    3    1    2    85    72    13    7
Roscommon    6    3    1    2    70    75    -5    7
Meath            5    3    0    2    71    74    -3    6
Antrim            5    1    2    2    67    69    -2    4
Sligo            6    1    1    4    75    92    -17    3
Wicklow            6    0    2    4    73    103    -30    2
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on March 25, 2013, 05:01:39 PM
Well done Martin Dunne.  Named on the HS team of the week.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on March 25, 2013, 07:25:37 PM
Quote from: PhilsJemmysField on March 25, 2013, 11:49:51 AM
So basically we need Antrim to do Cavan two favours, to gain promotion and we beat Roscommon which will be tight enough

Team          Pld    Won    Draw    Lost    For    Against    Diff    Points
Fermanagh    6    4    1    1    94    72    22    9
Monaghan    6    4    0    2    90    68    22    8
Cavan            6    3    1    2    85    72    13    7
Roscommon    6    3    1    2    70    75    -5    7
Meath            5    3    0    2    71    74    -3    6
Antrim            5    1    2    2    67    69    -2    4
Sligo            6    1    1    4    75    92    -17    3
Wicklow            6    0    2    4    73    103    -30    2

If meath beat antrim but lose to fermanagh and we win then we would finish above them. I reckon Fermanagh will best Meath anyway. Monaghan are playing crap by all accounts so who knows what Antrim might do there.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on March 25, 2013, 11:09:07 PM
What do ye think about the Givney situation lads. His form the last 2/3 games has been average at best. They clearly don't want him and mckiernan midfield together and I can understand that however I think its not really working out at off and for me Barry Reilly will be on the 40 come championship. Should he just be left in midfield or where else could he go? For me he's one of our best players and I hate to think we are not getting the best out if him.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on March 25, 2013, 11:17:13 PM
Himself and McKiernan are too attack minded for a midfield pairing. It works with Mossy Corr as he is suited to a holding role. Mckiernan would be a good half forward Imo, with Givney midfield
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: packiedevlin on March 26, 2013, 02:06:20 PM
Leave him at full forward, you seen the damage he did against Monaghan and Meath from in there. I think nearer the goals the better as his shooting from far out is more often quite poor (he gets the odd very good score) and his passing can be erratic too. Winning ball in the forward line and passing it off to incoming forwards is the way to go or have a shot if close enough.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on March 26, 2013, 02:23:58 PM
Where would you play Keating then,? He was in there because Keating was Injured.

His form with DIT at midfield was top class. He is a big threat in Full Forward, but not needed if Keating is fully fit, unless they play him with Keatinga and Dunne
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: packiedevlin on March 26, 2013, 02:38:12 PM
Ye possibly play the 3 of them in there or maybe keep Keating as a sub? The bench is nearly as important as we seen in the Sligo game,  U21 game last week and at the weekend against Wicklow.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on March 26, 2013, 02:44:35 PM
Yeah, its not bad option. Then a few u21 players will be coming into that team aswell like Jack Brady, plenty of compeitition in the forwards. Very stong panel this year.

I heard the u21 Semi against Down is in the Athletic grounds.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dougal on March 26, 2013, 04:57:02 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on March 26, 2013, 02:44:35 PM
Yeah, its not bad option. Then a few u21 players will be coming into that team aswell like Jack Brady, plenty of compeitition in the forwards. Very stong panel this year.

I heard the u21 Semi against Down is in the Athletic grounds.

ive heard we're back in brewster.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on March 26, 2013, 09:41:52 PM
U21 game fixed for The Gaelic Grounds Armagh, 3rd April at 8pm.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on March 27, 2013, 12:06:13 PM
Quote from: Westside on March 26, 2013, 09:41:52 PM
U21 game fixed for The Gaelic Grounds Armagh, 3rd April at 8pm.

Getting mixed up with Drogheda , it's the Athletic Grounds Armagh
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on March 27, 2013, 02:49:33 PM
Hah, my mistake. Anyway, the Athletic grounds isn't somewhere the lads will have played before, real pity it wasn't in Brewster as that would have been an advantage for us.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on March 27, 2013, 04:06:41 PM
Yeah it would have been nice to have been back in Enniskillan. Suppose the teams Cavan played in the past Brewster suited those teams Geographically, like Donegal, Tyone, Monaghan, Down is to the East and it made sense to be Armagh.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dougal on March 27, 2013, 04:24:03 PM
were many of this u21 team playing for the minors in 09 when we lost in the athletic grounds?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on March 30, 2013, 03:50:47 PM
Cavan's first game in the Ulster Minor League and they got hammered by down. 1-9 to 3-13. Doesn't bode well for their chances this year. I heard they lost to Leitrim back a while ago too.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on April 01, 2013, 11:41:33 AM
Quote from: Westside on March 30, 2013, 03:50:47 PM
Cavan's first game in the Ulster Minor League and they got hammered by down. 1-9 to 3-13. Doesn't bode well for their chances this year. I heard they lost to Leitrim back a while ago too.

I wouldnt read too much into it. The Ulster winning team had an average enough Ulster League too if I remember rightly as they used it to trial 30/40 players.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on April 02, 2013, 09:58:08 PM
Good luck to the u21 lads tomorrow in Armagh. Go out and give it everything ye have lads.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on April 04, 2013, 07:17:43 PM
Well done last night.  On to another night in Brewster.  Any one other than McBrearty that we need to watch?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on April 05, 2013, 12:10:48 PM
QuoteU21 success hindering promotion from Division 3

Any views on this guys?

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on April 05, 2013, 12:30:37 PM
Well the U21 Campaign has prevented us from fielding our strongest team, Killian Clarke and Jack Brady are almost nailed on starting players for the Seniors at this stage with Flanagan and McLoughlin not far away. In that sense we are hindered to some extent.

However, the value of having a group of lads playing 3/4 Championship games and wining those games far far outweighs the negatives to the Seniors in the long run. The experience, winning mentality and confidence that a Championship run breeds will be far more valuable as these players graduate to senior level. All that said, there are absolutely no guarantees that the addition of the few U21 lads would have got us over the line in the Fermanagh game (where promotion was lost) The sending off of Damien O'Reilly was the turning point and U21 availability wouldn't change that. 

We should become increasingly competitive in the coming years, promotion should be the target in the next 2 years along with good championship showings and a few wins and scalps. Within 3/4 making a decent stab at an Ulster title should be the aim.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on April 05, 2013, 01:59:31 PM
Spot on westside. Couldn't agree more.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on April 05, 2013, 08:48:22 PM
It was always going to take a few years. Cavan don't have the experienced players that Counties like Donegal had, when they won the Ulster u21 in 2010. They had players like Karl Lacey who had won All Stars, Neil Gallagher, Rory Kavanagh, Colm McFadden. McGuinness took over and had a lot of experienced players to work with, and blend with the younger lads from U21. They were at a low ebb when he took over, but they were all good players, just about getting their heads right.

The younger players will have no fear in the future, as they get older and more mature.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on April 05, 2013, 09:42:56 PM
So do you think that the U21's not been available has cost promotion Rodney?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on April 05, 2013, 09:57:15 PM
Quote from: tommysmith on April 05, 2013, 12:10:48 PM
QuoteU21 success hindering promotion from Division 3

Any views on this guys?

Where did the quote come from? I think it possibly did as Clarke and Mcloughlin are probably better backs than what we had but who knows. Don't really care as long as we get this Ulster u21 won.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on April 05, 2013, 10:03:28 PM
It came from me.

I think we would have promotion this year if the U21 had of been let play more games.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on April 05, 2013, 10:20:46 PM
Possibly, Flanagan is playing very well with the u21's, Jack and Clarke. I think Mooney will be close to the Senior team aswell

Where did you find that quote, the Division 3 thread?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on April 05, 2013, 10:21:50 PM
haha i made it up myself, just trying to get a bit of discussion going.

I see you are telling lies on the Derry thread Rodders.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on April 05, 2013, 10:25:09 PM
About the u21's not being used for the last 4 years ha. more or less? they only played in 2 games year, wouldn't expect them when they are involved with that panel
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on April 05, 2013, 10:27:34 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on April 05, 2013, 10:25:09 PM
About the u21's not being used for the last 4 years ha. more or less? they only played in 2 games year, wouldn't expect them when they are involved with that panel

They should be playing every game !
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on April 05, 2013, 10:29:04 PM
Asking a bit much, would you play them against Ross and then Donegal on Wednesday
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on April 05, 2013, 10:30:26 PM
Not now cos the result wont matter.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on April 05, 2013, 10:46:01 PM
I think the way it has been done is bang on and I think if we had done anything radically different last few years we wouldn't have won those titles.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on April 06, 2013, 10:18:18 AM
I'm not sure its a good thing and don't see how it would have made any difference.

Playing game is better than any training.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on April 06, 2013, 12:09:36 PM
Tommy I'm inclined to agree with Itchy. Its not about playing games really. Its about getting a bunch of young lads together, training and bonding as a team. Having some of them playing and training with seniors would have impacted this togetherness in my opinion. I think the results speak for themselves. Next year we should see a push for promotion from div 3 and i think that should be next years goal. This year my goal was for an improvement in the seniors and for further glory for the U21's. The seniors have certainly improved and hopefully the U21's will win on Wednesday and maybe go even further.

Next year the seniors should have 4 successful u21 panels to cherry pick a senior panel and add the 2/3 players from over 25 yrs old and that should look like a damn decent panel and then I think the county board should shift focus a little more onto the seniors.

I'm happy enough the way things are running at the moment.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on April 06, 2013, 01:00:54 PM
I would be happy enough myself but i just think that the Senior team should be a step further up the ladder at this stage and be playing a better standard of football next year in Division 2.  We have been in Division 3 for long enough now and at this stage promotion should be the only thing on the Senior managements minds next year.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on April 06, 2013, 01:12:55 PM
2011 and 2012 Cavan narrowly avoided Relegation to Division 4. We would have taken where we are now at the start of the league, next year the likes of Fergal Flanagan and Jack Brady, Mooney,will have no u21 commitments and we will have more options.

The likes of Mackey, Clarke, Martin Reilly, James McEnroe plus others are only back this year after being out for a year or more. Takes time for it to all to gel together, I would be fairly confident of going up next year.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on April 06, 2013, 03:42:51 PM
Minors hammered by Monaghan in Breffni. We should be careful not to take for granted that we will keep producing good underage sides. We may well be just going through a golden generation at the moment which could be drying up further down the line.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on April 06, 2013, 03:49:01 PM
Quote from: Westside on April 06, 2013, 03:42:51 PM
Minors hammered by Monaghan in Breffni. We should be careful not to take for granted that we will keep producing good underage sides. We may well be just going through a golden generation at the moment which could be drying up further down the line.

Your point is right but a bad loss or two in what is effectively a pre season tournament is nothing to be overly worried about in my opinion. It was only 6-5 at half time and Monaghan got a few goals early in the 2nd half. No point showing our hands yet, thats what we use to do and ended up getting bet in Ulster championship then.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on April 06, 2013, 03:59:02 PM
The 2011 Minors had an average league but I don't recall them taking any big hammerings. I don't think taking beatings like that will do confidence any good. Putting out what may essentially be a new team in the first round of the Championship and expecting them to pull together is a big ask. Some level of consistency is needed. I'd also say that if we don't win the first round at the very least, Gary Donohoe should be out the door. A very average club manager from Leitrim in my opinion.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on April 06, 2013, 04:54:51 PM
He didn't seemed concerned last week in the Celt, saying he was using a large panel. And was looking at various players before settling on a team for the Championship. There was a few missing today who will be certs to play against Armagh in the Championship. Still lots of time for Challenge games after the Minor league to look better at a stronger team. He is actually from Gowna.

They beat Armagh on Wednesday by a point.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on April 06, 2013, 04:59:31 PM
Did I read somewhere that the underage development panels have either being done away with or curtailed. If that's the case you might be right to be worried about the tankings the minors are taking at the minute. Listening to some of the lads who played in the past two years Under 21 sides they put great store at being involved with a development panel over a few years. So if those panels are being curtailed you would only imagine it's either finance or else rank stupidity.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on April 06, 2013, 05:40:31 PM
Well he's hardly going to come out and show concern but what sort of message is he sending to the panel at large by saying that type of thing? Where are all these players that are much better than what we have out and why aren't they getting any game time, or are they already proven veterans at the age of 17/18? Two hammerings now and a game where they almost threw away a 7 point lead. Should any combination of a 30 odd panel be taking 10 point hammerings at home to Monaghan? I think it's fair to be concerned.

He's a Drumreilly man is he not? Ask the Ballinamore or Belturbet lads what they think of him...
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on April 06, 2013, 06:11:42 PM
Well he certainly made a balls of the game last year from the line against Donegal. We'll have to see as he was involved in our Ulster win and that has earned him the right to manage the team this year!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on April 06, 2013, 06:34:05 PM
Def from Gowna, I heard he is a bit hit and miss as a club manager alright.

Video from the Cavan- Armagh game on Wednesday night http://www.armaghgaa.net/football/video-armagh-minors-0-10-cavan-minors-0-11/

Cavan almost threw away a big lead
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on April 06, 2013, 06:38:24 PM
Surely winning a Minor Championship 2 years ago should give him some lay way, despite the mistakes last year against Donegal..
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on April 06, 2013, 08:15:35 PM
I think beating Armagh was still a great psychological boost ahead of the Championship meeting, albeit almost throwing away a big lead. They won at and that's what mattered. They won't fear Armagh in the Championship. If they were to get past Armagh its Fermanagh, and I'd fancy Cavan  to beat them. If Cavan were to make the semi's and a possible match with Monaghan, Cavan would not be getting a 9 pt defeat Imo with a stronger side and some momentum.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on April 06, 2013, 08:25:32 PM
Big changes for tomorrow

James Reilly; Killian brady, Padraic O'Reilly, Ronan Flanagan; Rory Dunne, James Mcenroe, John McCutcheon; Gearoid McKiernan, Declan McKiernan; Martin Reilly, Cian Mackey, Mark McKeever; Martin Dunne, Niall McDermott, Eugene Keating
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on April 07, 2013, 10:52:03 AM
Quote from: anglocelt39 on April 06, 2013, 04:59:31 PM
Did I read somewhere that the underage development panels have either being done away with or curtailed. If that's the case you might be right to be worried about the tankings the minors are taking at the minute. Listening to some of the lads who played in the past two years Under 21 sides they put great store at being involved with a development panel over a few years. So if those panels are being curtailed you would only imagine it's either finance or else rank stupidity.

No truth in that i don't know where you could have read that.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on April 07, 2013, 11:21:12 AM
As for worrying about future under age teams, take a look at St Pats and what they have been doing lately, there is plenty of good players coming through...
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on April 07, 2013, 12:07:23 PM
Quote from: Itchy on April 06, 2013, 08:25:32 PM
Big changes for tomorrow

James Reilly; Killian brady, Padraic O'Reilly, Ronan Flanagan; Rory Dunne, James Mcenroe, John McCutcheon; Gearoid McKiernan, Declan McKiernan; Martin Reilly, Cian Mackey, Mark McKeever; Martin Dunne, Niall McDermott, Eugene Keating

Interesting to see how this team goes. I would've liked to see Barry Reilly get a full 70 mins into him as he is going to need to get fit soon with Ulster just around the corner. Best of luck to them anyway. Fingers crossed a few results go our way.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on April 07, 2013, 12:12:06 PM
Barry Reilly wont be starting come Championship, what you think of that myles?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on April 07, 2013, 12:36:12 PM
Quote from: tommysmith on April 07, 2013, 12:12:06 PM
Barry Reilly wont be starting come Championship, what you think of that myles?

Why would you say that? I think the team will be worse for it. Long range free taker, very creative and confident player. If fit he's on my first 15. Is he injured or do you just reckon Hyland doesn't fancy him?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on April 07, 2013, 12:45:54 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on April 07, 2013, 12:36:12 PM
Quote from: tommysmith on April 07, 2013, 12:12:06 PM
Barry Reilly wont be starting come Championship, what you think of that myles?

Why would you say that? I think the team will be worse for it. Long range free taker, very creative and confident player. If fit he's on my first 15. Is he injured or do you just reckon Hyland doesn't fancy him?

I just think that if you look at the 6 picked today that Terry would have 5 of them ahead of him and also Jack Brady and Givney.

Martin Reilly, Cian Mackey, Mark McKeever; Martin Dunne, Niall McDermott, Eugene Keating

Just my opinion of course.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on April 07, 2013, 12:54:12 PM
Good to see Rory Dunne back, be surprised if he started at half back. I think McEnroe is best suited at Centre back, although he done well when filling in at full back.

Flanagan done well at  corner back last year in the games I saw him play.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on April 07, 2013, 12:56:33 PM
Maybe, but if I'm picking the team v Armagh it would look something like this..

Gilsenan (see previous opinions of mine on Miller)
McLoughlin
Dunne/McEnroe (have to see more of Dunne, he is injured so much its hard to)
Cillian Clarke
Damian Reilly
Alan Clarke
McCutcheon/Flanagan
McKiernan
Corr
Givney
B Reilly
McKeever
Mackey (free role out the field)
Keating
Dunne

And a very decent bench
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on April 07, 2013, 04:41:28 PM
All i can say for now is that i hope that team have had some heavy training sessions the last two weeks.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on April 07, 2013, 04:45:25 PM
Bit of a shocker, haven't been that bad since the Kildare annihilation last year. A wake up call going into the Championship. Jamie Clarke will have a field day, if they defend as bad.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on April 07, 2013, 05:18:35 PM
That was deplorable lads,there is no point saying otherwise,It was every bit as bad as the Kildare debacle last year.As i said on the Division 3 thread,the amount of basic errors would have been astounding from a Division 3 club reserve team.
Declan McKiernan was a plus i thought,He caught 2 or 3 terrific balls at midfield and put in a good shift. Ronan Flanagan marked Donie Smith very well and restricted him from open play,Smith scored virtually all his points from placed balls. I hope Hyland experiments with Gearoid at Full forward,Corr and Givney at Centrefield before the Armagh game as i feel that should be the way to go. Declan McKiernan has put himself right into contention for a starting spot also.
I wouldn't be panicking though as i would imagine the team are in the middle of their heavy pre-championship training schedule right now with 7 weeks to go until May 19th.
We should chalk it down to just a bad day at the office. This team has shown its undoubted potential in this league campaign.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on April 07, 2013, 05:22:57 PM
I hope heavy training is to blame cos that was atrocious
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on April 07, 2013, 05:27:39 PM
Flanagan did well to fair I agree, I would probably have him corner back for the Championship, instead of further forward
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on April 07, 2013, 06:05:51 PM
1. Conor Gilsenan
2. Jason McLoughlin
3. Killian Clarke
4. Ronan Flanagan
5. John McCutcheon(clearly injured today)
6. Alan Clarke(James McEnroe if Clarke isnt fit)
7. Damien Reily
8. David Givney
9. Mossy Corr
10. Cian Mackey
11. Jack Brady
12. Martin Reily/Barry Reily
13. Martin Dunne
14. Gearoid McKiernan
15. Eugene Keating

That would be my team for the Armagh match.
We could perhaps see Damien Reily moved into the half forward line,with Rory Dunne coming into the backs, Dunne played well enough today i thought when called upon at wing back,even though his markers didn't see much ball.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on April 07, 2013, 06:08:05 PM
Do you really think he will leave Podge and Niall McDermott out of the team?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on April 07, 2013, 06:13:22 PM
Quote from: tommysmith on April 07, 2013, 06:08:05 PM
Do you really think he will leave Podge and Niall McDermott out of the team?

No i don't Tommy. I said that team i named would be the team I would like to see picked.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on April 07, 2013, 07:14:37 PM
I don't see a place for then two in starting 15 if we have full panel
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on April 07, 2013, 07:32:03 PM
Quote from: Itchy on April 07, 2013, 07:14:37 PM
I don't see a place for then two in starting 15 if we have full panel

Me either and especially after today but i bet you Terry can.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on April 08, 2013, 08:45:55 PM
Things are not looking so rosy for Donegal U21's ahead of Wednesday http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/northern-ireland/22070922
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on April 10, 2013, 12:35:21 PM
Best of luck to  the lads this evening. Thankfully I can make this one! It'll be tough but we can do it!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on April 10, 2013, 12:52:51 PM
Good luck to the lads tonight. Few stats about the u21 final teams tonight
http://www.thescore.ie/young-stars/news/

9 lads involved with Granard in the All Ireland Voc final against Holy Trinity Cookstown on Saturday, I'd expect a few of them to be involved with the Minors, plus a few other players who were missing against Monaghan.

Bit of an over reaction to a few  defeats for the Minors, Judge them on how they play against Armagh
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on April 10, 2013, 09:36:54 PM
Cavan    0  13
Donegal 1  06

Brilliant display.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on April 10, 2013, 10:18:17 PM
Brilliant result, Donegal came back well in the second half, but that was expected. Paul Graham got a serious score to seal it

Cork will be a tough battle in the Semi's
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on April 11, 2013, 01:35:37 AM
Brilliant stuff lads,The last 10 was tense stuff,but fair play to the lads for holding out.We have really gotten into a winning habbit which is great to see. The 5 and a half hour round trip and lack of sleep for work tommorow  was/will be worth every single bit of it.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on April 11, 2013, 04:06:21 PM
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/northern-ireland/22106269

Great viewing her. It's clear from the video that the team's sights weren't focused solely on Ulster. If we have what it takes to mix with the big guns outside of Ulster remains to be seen but the lads believe it.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on April 11, 2013, 04:33:08 PM
Converting u21 success to Senior level success http://www.gaa.ie/gaa-news-and-videos/daily-news/2/1104131438-boys-to-men-a-study-of-converting-u21-success-to-senior/1/
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on April 11, 2013, 09:09:19 PM
Made the trip to the game and the impression I got was that we did not play as well as we could but still should have won more easily. Poor goal conceded and Enda Reilly wasn't is usual brilliant best. However, we had such an advantage in the middle that Donegal pretty much refused to kick a ball up the center from a kick out. We have two top class wing backs in McVitty and Gerard Smith. Gerard Smith has the look of a guy who could be a massive player for us. Conroy ran himself into the ground and scored 3 points, 2 of them outstanding. McLoughlin did very well on McBrearty for a long time but his class showed in the end as he single handedly pulled Donegal back into it. I doubt our FB line will have to contend with a player of his class again. A super team effort overall and I certainly think this team could go up another gear and hopefully we can give cork a tight game. Amazingly we are now 6/1 to win it out. I think we have a great chance.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on April 12, 2013, 08:29:28 PM
Lads anyone know when the U21 highlights are shown on Tg4? Tallowmanirish used to upload them all to his youtube channel but it appears they have deleted his account which is a huge pity as he had thousands of good GAA Videos.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on April 13, 2013, 09:28:44 AM
GAA 2013 is on Saturday morning on TG4, actually in 15 minutes but not sure would it show U21's. TG4 used to be good for that sort of stuff but not sure now if they are still.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on April 13, 2013, 10:26:33 AM
Couple of Cavan Minors on show for Cnoc Mhuire Granard today in Croker in, live on tg4, on air at 1.15 , game at 1.30
At least 4 will be on the Championship panel for the Armagh game I'd imagine.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: club_man on April 13, 2013, 10:30:56 AM
Amazing that TG4 don't show the Cavan U-21 game and yet they show every other final.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on April 13, 2013, 10:56:49 AM
Was watching that tg4 show this morning. It said highlight of u21 game is on Monday 15th at 8.30pm.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on April 13, 2013, 01:41:27 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on April 13, 2013, 10:26:33 AM
Couple of Cavan Minors on show for Cnoc Mhuire Granard today in Croker in, live on tg4, on air at 1.15 , game at 1.30
At least 4 will be on the Championship panel for the Armagh game I'd imagine.
Which players are from Cavan?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on April 13, 2013, 01:48:13 PM
Two lads in the ff line, Fionnan  O Reilly and Aaron Brady, the full back and number 2 McGahern, a couple of others unlucky to not make it, I think 1 player was player was carrying an Injury
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on April 13, 2013, 01:55:39 PM
Kiernan that is after coming on as a sub is also from Cavan
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on April 13, 2013, 02:05:43 PM
Brady lad 13 looks handy. Like a young Gooch!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on April 13, 2013, 02:53:31 PM
They were lucky to get out of that a draw would have been fair.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on April 13, 2013, 03:09:11 PM
Quote from: tommysmith on April 13, 2013, 02:53:31 PM
They were lucky to get out of that a draw would have been fair.
Tommy I thought Granard were by far the best team over the 60 and that the ref gave the other team a lot of easy frees in the last 10 mims and their lucky goal gave them the momentum that nearly got the draw. However, it would have been a travesty if they had got the draw.

That Rian Brady lad is from Longford I  think, is that right Rodney.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on April 13, 2013, 03:45:26 PM
Yeah he from Longford, Aaron Brady came on as a sub, played in Leinster final and previous games.  Rian Brady is class little player, thought the ref Reilly was shite yet again

They played very well since they were down 14 in the middle of the first half
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on April 13, 2013, 03:58:06 PM
It was Devenney who was ref just checked , looks very alike to Reilly from Meath
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on April 15, 2013, 09:56:09 PM
Just watched the highlights of the Ulster and Munster finals on TG4. Its hard to understand why the bookies have Cork 4/9 and Cavan 9/4 for next Sunday. I saw nothing spectacular from Cork and I think our lads will get more bodies around them in the backs than Tipp did. I think we have a 50:50 chance of winning and I also think we have another gear to go up from the Ulster final. Its all about getting out of the lads on the pitch on Saturday. There should be no fear of Cork and f**k the bookies. I put 50 quid on them just now to win it out at 6/1. Go on the breffni!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on April 16, 2013, 03:18:11 AM
Any chance of anyone having a link to any of the TG4 stuff?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on April 16, 2013, 10:01:13 AM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on April 15, 2013, 09:56:09 PM
Just watched the highlights of the Ulster and Munster finals on TG4. Its hard to understand why the bookies have Cork 4/9 and Cavan 9/4 for next Sunday. I saw nothing spectacular from Cork and I think our lads will get more bodies around them in the backs than Tipp did. I think we have a 50:50 chance of winning and I also think we have another gear to go up from the Ulster final. Its all about getting out of the lads on the pitch on Saturday. There should be no fear of Cork and f**k the bookies. I put 50 quid on them just now to win it out at 6/1. Go on the breffni!

Good man Myles are we all set for Saturday lads i am really looking forward to it.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on April 16, 2013, 10:07:19 AM
Here's a link http://www.tg4.ie/#
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on April 16, 2013, 01:37:14 PM
Quote from: tommysmith on April 16, 2013, 10:01:13 AM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on April 15, 2013, 09:56:09 PM
Just watched the highlights of the Ulster and Munster finals on TG4. Its hard to understand why the bookies have Cork 4/9 and Cavan 9/4 for next Sunday. I saw nothing spectacular from Cork and I think our lads will get more bodies around them in the backs than Tipp did. I think we have a 50:50 chance of winning and I also think we have another gear to go up from the Ulster final. Its all about getting out of the lads on the pitch on Saturday. There should be no fear of Cork and f**k the bookies. I put 50 quid on them just now to win it out at 6/1. Go on the breffni!

Good man Myles are we all set for Saturday lads i am really looking forward to it.
I'll be there anyway. We don't get many all Ireland semis so we can't pass them up.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on April 16, 2013, 01:43:50 PM
I'll be there, Tullamore is suppose to be one of the more modern grounds in Leinster at the minute. The dilapidated shed in Navan and the dodgy terrace in Longford are a bit lagging behind.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on April 17, 2013, 03:48:54 PM
Quote from: tommysmith on April 16, 2013, 10:01:13 AM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on April 15, 2013, 09:56:09 PM
Just watched the highlights of the Ulster and Munster finals on TG4. Its hard to understand why the bookies have Cork 4/9 and Cavan 9/4 for next Sunday. I saw nothing spectacular from Cork and I think our lads will get more bodies around them in the backs than Tipp did. I think we have a 50:50 chance of winning and I also think we have another gear to go up from the Ulster final. Its all about getting out of the lads on the pitch on Saturday. There should be no fear of Cork and f**k the bookies. I put 50 quid on them just now to win it out at 6/1. Go on the breffni!

Good man Myles are we all set for Saturday lads i am really looking forward to it.

The bookies (or maybe its the punters) know jack shit about this grade of football. For christ sake Tyrone were favourites to win Ulster just because they were Tyrone and ignorace of the fact that Monaghan thrashed them before the 1st round. Weren't they 1/3 to beat Donegal too! I didnt see anything invincible about Cork in those hightlights and if you look at the other side of the draw I believe Galway were fortunate to beat Roscommon. Kildare seem strong but McGeeney is not allowing the senior players to concentrate on the U21's like we are so again that has to be worth something. There are 4 good teams left and we have as good a chance as any of them to win this thing.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on April 17, 2013, 04:24:44 PM
I'd say the bookies knew very little about the Shamrock Cup. They were basing it on the fact, that Tyrone were Minor champions 3 years ago and that the game against Donegal was in Omagh, home advantage making the odds shorter..

Cavan at 6/1 to win it outright is a nice price..
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on April 18, 2013, 11:48:28 AM
Some good coverage of the U21 in Gaelic life today. I think you can sign up for this weeks issue for 90p on their site. Anyway, the boys over there are tipping us to beat Cork.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on April 18, 2013, 11:56:58 AM
Club Championship starting this week in Meath and Westmeath, think its starting in a few weeks in Kildare, The Co board made a right balls of that way it was dealth with this year, going from agreeing on amalgamations to no amalgamations and then allowing clubs to enter the Senior Championship
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: PhilsJemmysField on April 18, 2013, 01:00:31 PM
Any word from the camp for the weekend is everybody ok

The word from on high is a full round of fixtures go ahead Sunday  -- Win, Loose or Draw. Will be interesting to see does that happen if we win.

So the league should finish round Christmas even before anybody chats about championship. Own personal belief is that starting in July and running right through is right as starting now then stopping the championship is wrong
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on April 18, 2013, 01:14:53 PM
The Championship starting in July is alright, maybe a little ealier for sharpness for the Co Seniors. Didn't mean as in April. The League  is still going to drag on until xmass, whatever way they think it won't. Some clubs have only 3 games played , others have 5 etc.

Preview of the Cork side http://www.gaa.ie/gaa-news-and-videos/daily-news/2/1804131230-final-four-rebels-looking-beyond-munster-success/
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on April 18, 2013, 03:53:23 PM
Vidoe of all 4 sides in the Provincial finals http://www.thescore.ie/heres-how-cavan-cork-galway-kildare-reached-the-all-ireland-u21fc-semi-finals-871607-Apr2013/

the 4 counties have all players in Carlow It http://www.thescore.ie/all-ireland-u21-football-875012-Apr2013/
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on April 18, 2013, 05:14:40 PM
Rodney round 17 of the league is fixed for the 3rd of July so id reckon there is a good chance that it will be over by xmas.

There are two double weekend fixtures in May so that will be four games played in 2 weekends.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on April 18, 2013, 05:19:32 PM
Suppose it would depend if the U21's win Saturday aswell, the Seniors against Armagh which will be a struggle, there has been a lot of games called off with weather etc, they will probably get them played mid week in May
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on April 18, 2013, 05:29:44 PM
While Cavan are in the Senior Championship games will go ahead without county players up to a max of 6.

There had been one or two of that 6 used up already it think though.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on April 18, 2013, 09:45:31 PM
There was a time when Cavan's footballers could justifiably walk tall alongside Kerry's as the games leaders. The days when John Joe O'Reilly, John Wilson and Phil 'The Gunner' Brady were household names.


By Terry Reilly
Deputy Sports Editor
But those times have long passed. A senior Ulster title in 1997 represents their only silverware at that level in 43 years. So for a county with as many Anglo Celt Cups as Armagh, Tyrone and Down put together, the barren spell has been tough.

With Ulster's rise, Cavan fell further down the pecking order.

"We were bottom of pile in Ulster," said county chairman Tom O'Reilly.

A radical approach was called for; a practical one was applied. When O'Reilly was appointed in 2010 he sat down with current senior manager Terry Hyland and looked at the problems within Cavan football.

Their results up to minor looked respectable and just needed tweaking. At senior and U21 level it was a different story. Tradition dictated the seniors and U21s train together but the fall off in players aged between 18 and 21 was staggering. By the time a good minor team's year to play U21 had arrived, the players were no longer around or interested. So they extended their panels, sometimes up to 40 players.

"There had always been fights between the senior and U21 manager, which goes on everywhere. So I decided there would be no crossover when U21s are playing," O'Reilly said.

"Now we were in a situation this year where the last two league matches had to be played without our U21s and it had a bearing on our promotion prospects. But we stuck with it because we believed in it.

"Initially we found it didn't cost a fortune and in the second year we saw the players coming through because we had 20 players ready to go straight away."

By isolating their players, they were also able to target them based on age. The formula was repeated further down the line with retention as their motto. They entered the Leinster JFC to give players who weren't up to U21 level yet, but had potential, games. In 2010 and 2011, they lost the finals. In 2012 they claimed a first Leinster title and were beaten by Kerry in the semi-final. Those players filtered into the U21 set up this year and a seamless progression was crowned with a third Ulster U21 in as many years.

In beating a Paddy McBrearty-inspired Donegal in the final, they found their emphasis on squad development outweighed individual talent. While Donegal had stars, they had 20 players they could rely on.

"Organising something well... you can see the benefit of it in a year or two," said Tom. "[It cost] €60-70,000 a year outside the norm of school coaching. But you see the strength in it when you it comes to sit down and pick an U21 panel. We know 20 straight away. In club football for the first time you can pick a county player on the field in the last 20 minutes. you could never do that before.

"Keeping lads interested in wearing the county jersey, we want that. Our mindset has changed. Three or four years ago lads were saying college football was more important than senior. The next step is to galvanise these lads into a senior set-up. There is a four-year plan in place by Terry Hyland and his selectors and we have to keep expectations at a level they are at. It will take a while. They're a very proud people in Cavan and when they see the county slipping down in Ulster they did the hard work to get there. But our biggest enemy in Cavan was our attitude. There can be no more excitement about a good team coming through. We are where we are and will take six years to make an impact at senior level. People needed to realise this. They will buy into it."

Last year they brought in the National Athlete Development Academy (NADA) to show the U21s what was required to make it as a senior players ("Our senior team's average age is 22 so they needed that awareness"). This year that role is occupied internally.

Two-time senior All-Ireland winner Peter Donnelly together with Finbar O'Reilly, Andy McGovern and former Fermanagh footballer Sean Doherty had completed strength and conditioning courses. Donnelly was appointed to a full-time role for the senior, U21, minor and development squads. But his main role is to coach the coaches.

Together with games development officer and former All Star Dermot McCabe they are creating a new template for the next Cavan production line. After the past 40 years, Tom knows the county can't rest on laurels. "We are revamping all underage panels now and it's in the early stages of that," he said.

"When [Dermot] took over the minor team [Ulster champions in 2011] we went for a different profile of players. We used to look for the skilful players but now we're looking for taller and stronger players. It's the same at U21 level. They developed lads whose skills were not as good.

"This Sunday against Cork you will have a team of 20 fellas but no stars. Before lads felt it was good enough to just wear the jersey. These U21s are different. It's lovely to be associated with them."
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on April 18, 2013, 10:12:44 PM
Good article, I think Cavan playing in the Leinster Junior Championship has been a good help for the development of the younger lads, along with all the good coaching at schools and development Squads. Last year was the 5th year playing Junior, the first 2 years they were beaten in the first round, they were then  beaten in the final  in 2010 &2011, , before finally winning it last year. It might only be junior but its a good way of keeping the younger lads together and benefiting from winning a few games.

Paul O Connor missed out with the u21's last year with injury, but was fit again for the Juniors and came on made a big impact against Kildare in the final last year, he is a key player this year with the u21's. Jason McGlaughlin and Dara Sexton were also part of the panel. Chris Conroy started that final and had a good game aswell.

It was also beneficial for the likes of Martin Dunne who missed the Senior Championship last year coming back from injury and Martin Reilly. Last year was Dunnes  first year on the Senior panel and getting game time with the juniors gave him confidence
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on April 20, 2013, 10:13:51 PM
Disappointed with todays result,but we have to proud of their efforts all year and their comeback today. I didn't think Gilsenan done much wrong for that last free, the Cork player shouldn't have been let in behind and Conor had to come out and go for it.
Gerard Smith was outstanding,he is one of those players who always seems to be in space,He is just an absolute class act.
I thought Jason McLoughlin done well on Brian Hurley,who is an outstanding prospect,How many feckin forwards do Cork need these days,Donncha,Gould,Kelly,O Neil,Sheehan,Kerrigan and now this man. Killian Clarke done well and made a difference when he came out around Midfield where we got well beaten today.
I hope to see him line out there next year.
Conor Moynagh changed the game when he came on,terrific display.McVeety was also very good. Fergal Flan had a good overall game despite a few turnovers near the end,he went through a mountain of work.  Jack was his usual industrious self,O Connor and Enda Reily done very well and kicked some lovely scores.Conor Madden was also very good when he came on.
We were crying out for a targetman inside to counteract the Cork blanket defence, i would have loved to see Big Conor Finnegan thrown in alongside Madden.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on April 20, 2013, 10:26:31 PM
Cavan showed great spirit to fight back from 6pts down. Moynagh was class when he came on, always uses the ball well and has a great determination. I felt Cavan probably didn't get the ball in quick enough at times into the inside lads, aka O Connor and Enda Reilly. They were casing the full back line a lot of hassle when they got ball and kicked some great scores. The hand passing game slowed down the tempo, and Cork probably used the ball at a quicker pace. Great effort by Cavan and brilliant to win 3in a row Ulsters. Pressure kick for Enda at the end was a hard call.
I think Cork will beat Galway in the final, if Kildare had their shooting boots Galway would have been out of sight today.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on April 21, 2013, 01:11:31 PM
Heatbreaking end yesteday but a lot to be proud of.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on April 21, 2013, 08:47:01 PM
How you guys rate our chances against Armagh?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on April 21, 2013, 09:17:15 PM
Quote from: tommysmith on April 21, 2013, 08:47:01 PM
How you guys rate our chances against Armagh?
Hard to know. I think (hope) the league has told us where are strengths lie and where we are struggling. Givney should be in midfield and I think maybe with Corr. McKiernan wing forward. Keating FF. Do we have someone to bring in to play in the forwards? O Connor? Maybe Kevin Tierney? We will need something more than Dunne trying to do it all. The backs will be interesting. Who will be FB and I assume Clarke will be on the 40. We need to change the corner backs though. McLoughlin will surely come in. Clarke also perhaps.

In general I am sure Hyland will do his homework on Armagh and will come up with a plan to beat them but we also know Hyland but a great stake on loyalty to lads that put it in. That is admirable and right but he may need to make some tough decisions and I think he needs to cut a few of his regular starters. If he takes these bold steps we have a chance, if not I think it will be Armagh.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on April 21, 2013, 09:24:07 PM
Tierney is playing centre half back for us and is in great form. Kicking 0-3 and 0-4 from play in the last number of games.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on April 21, 2013, 09:44:57 PM
I listened to one of the Celt Podcasts a few weeks back with Paul and the lads from the Celt and a interesting point that was made was that the game Cavan play now (esp U-21) isn't as efficient on a big pitch and if they were to play similar system against Armagh they should narrow the pitch.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on April 21, 2013, 09:48:35 PM
That will keep the grounds men busy. I wonder how many of the u21 players will be brought into the Senior panel now
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on April 21, 2013, 09:54:26 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on April 21, 2013, 09:48:35 PM
That will keep the grounds men busy. I wonder how many of the u21 players will be brought into the Senior panel now

Clarke
Mcloughlin
Brady
Flanagan
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on April 22, 2013, 05:06:08 PM
Anton Reilly is playing very well this year with Ramor, he was on the panel before but would be worth another chance I think. Physical player aswell. I
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on April 23, 2013, 10:24:20 PM
Bad injury to Big Gearoid?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanlad on April 23, 2013, 10:42:45 PM
Gearoid did his cruciate, last Sunday playing for his club. He is out for the year. Bad, bad news for him, his club and county.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: scoopmine on April 23, 2013, 11:39:41 PM
Gearoid did his cruciate? Bad news for us.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on April 24, 2013, 01:09:42 PM
Confirmed on Gaelic life http://t.co/UGGZb0dmHd
Tough luck for Gearoid, 9 months is what it would take for the recovery. He will miss a good chunk of next years League. Some players rush back to early from an injury like that and can very easily rupture the cruciate again. John Galvin was only back last year and did it again.

Charlie Vernon will miss the Cavan game http://t.co/7S3Gu5WMX2
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on April 24, 2013, 08:38:37 PM
Terrible news for Gearoid, to be training all year and doing so well in most games and then a few weeks before the business end of the season this happens. I think its his second time too. He must be devastated I wish him all the best and hope the county board give him whatever help he needs to recover and hopefully we'll see him in the blue of Cavan again soon.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on April 26, 2013, 09:47:38 AM
Any word on what u21s are now on senior panel. Have seniors been playing any challenge games?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on April 26, 2013, 04:35:59 PM
I wish Gearoid all the best and hope that he comes back a better player. Second time doing the ACL I believe so he should know what it takes to get back.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on April 27, 2013, 10:13:02 AM
So 3 weeks on Sunday to the start of the championship. Will it be the same old story or will Terry Hyland be able to put a winning formula in place. Although the league petered out in the end I would still be hopefull of a few things being right, the foundations that is

- The team will be fit.
- Terry will play lads that were dedicated to the panel. Loyalty to lads that are loyal to him is  big thing so I expect to see a panel of 20 lads willing to put their bodies on the line.
- I expect to see the team play a definite game plan and not look like they don't know what they are supposed to be doing like in previous years. The plan might not work but there will be one.

The senior panel seems to be under the radar a little at the moment, probably due to another exciting U21 campaign. That might be no harm. A lot of guys wondering who is marking Jamie Clarke - I don't think he will start to be honest, not if he is heading off on a trip when all the big work is being done. If I were the Armagh manager he would be an impact sub. Its Forker we need to be worried about! Givney will most likely move to midfield although I would not be surprised to see Hyland stick Declan McKiernan in to midfield and continue with Givney in the FF line. If that is the plan the team have been working to all year well then maybe they should continue with it instead of abandoning it due to McKiernans injury. There is a lot to be said for a steady consistent message and approach. The good thing is that on the day there are options on the pitch to change things around.

One worry I have is Keating. He can be a huge player for us but he looked sluggish when he came back from injury and not on the same wavelength as some of the other players. Hopefully that will all be ironed out before the 19th.

I think we have a fighting chance and personally I think Grimley is one of the most over rated managers in the country and I don't fear him or his team at all.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on April 27, 2013, 10:25:00 AM
Jamie Clarke is one of the top 5 forwards in Ireland. He will start, he came back earlier than expected from the trip and is back training with Armagh. Ronan Flanagan did very well at corner back in the few league games he was played there last year, I would have him marking Clarke. Not sure about McGlaughlin. I would have Oisin Moynagh who is a more physical player then McGlaughlin, and Ronan Flanagan as the 2 corner backs. I would have Givney at midfield with Corr.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on April 27, 2013, 11:00:02 AM
Rodney - try not to exaggerate. He is not even in the top 5 in Ulster if you ask me. Stephen O Neill, Paddy Bradley, Eoin Bradley, Benny Coulter, Mcfadden, Murphy. He's at around the same level as McManus of Monaghan, a very good player that needs watching but top 5 in Ireland not a chance in hell.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on April 27, 2013, 11:05:18 AM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on April 27, 2013, 11:00:02 AM
Rodney - try not to exaggerate. He is not even in the top 5 in Ulster if you ask me. Stephen O Neill, Paddy Bradley, Eoin Bradley, Benny Coulter, Mcfadden, Murphy. He's at around the same level as McManus of Monaghan, a very good player that needs watching but top 5 in Ireland not a chance in hell.

Yeah that's your opinion Myles, and that was mine. He has proved with Cross plenty of times, he ran the Tyrone defence ragged last year in the Ulster Championship. Only that Armagh are not the heavy hitters they once they were he doesn't get to show it enough.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on April 27, 2013, 11:10:05 AM
Which of the ones Myles named would you displace with clarke ? You said top 5 in Ireland. What about the other provinces?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on April 27, 2013, 11:14:56 AM
Why you do you need to speak for Myles all the time Itchy, I know ye are both from Killeshandra and all, but its not really necessary,

Seeing that Paddy Bradley hasb't kicked a ball since September I would  have Clark over him. Clarkes last game in the League was Feburay so a bit more recent
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on April 27, 2013, 11:29:47 AM
I'm not speaking for anyone. Just asking your opinion. Why do you get so ratty when anyone disagrees with you? I'm not from Killeshandra, why do you think that?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on April 27, 2013, 11:30:56 AM
Fairly sure you said you were on other thread, maybe I took you up wrong
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on April 27, 2013, 11:49:46 AM
Same parish. Not Killeshandra, we don't play in red which leaves......

Where do you hail from yourself Rodney?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on April 27, 2013, 12:07:50 PM
I wish we had a Jamie Clarke.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on April 27, 2013, 12:10:58 PM
Quote from: tommysmith on April 27, 2013, 12:07:50 PM
I wish we had a Jamie Clarke.

If I had a wish I'd wish for Stephen O Neill, Brogan or Murphy.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on April 27, 2013, 12:39:28 PM
I always thought Rodney was Cavan Gaels but to be honest I don't recall him ever saying.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on April 27, 2013, 01:15:59 PM
From Lacken,  never hid where I was from. Supporting Johnston during the transfer shouldn't have automatically made me a CG member.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on April 27, 2013, 01:26:09 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on April 27, 2013, 11:00:02 AM
Rodney - try not to exaggerate. He is not even in the top 5 in Ulster if you ask me. Stephen O Neill, Paddy Bradley, Eoin Bradley, Benny Coulter, Mcfadden, Murphy. He's at around the same level as McManus of Monaghan, a very good player that needs watching but top 5 in Ireland not a chance in hell.
I'd disagree with him not being top 5 in Ulster Myles,
Jamie Clarke is way ahead of either of  the Bradley brothers and Benny Coulter(Benny isn't as good as he once was,although he is still very good). In my opinion,the only three on your list I would definitely put him after are Stephen O Neil , Michael Murphy and McFadden. He is a match winner and if he gets a decent supply against us May 19th,he will destroy us no matter who is marking him.
He suffers from playing on a seriously underachieving Armagh team.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on April 27, 2013, 01:41:59 PM
Biggest concern I would have about May 19 is the fact that you could rattle off about 10 names that could be considered for a position in the full back line but I would be hard pressed to pick an absolutely nailed on definite starter from any of them. I'm sure Terry has a fair idea of who he wants to start in there, which is the main thing I suppose.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on April 27, 2013, 01:46:23 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on April 27, 2013, 01:15:59 PM
From Lacken,  never hid where I was from. Supporting Johnston during the transfer shouldn't have automatically made me a CG member.
Never said you did hide where your from Rodney. You're a very defensive chap.

Ballyhaiseman - while we could argue either way if Clarke is top 5 in Ulster, surely to say he is top 5 in the whole country is a bit much.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on April 27, 2013, 01:56:42 PM
Quote from: anglocelt39 on April 27, 2013, 01:41:59 PM
Biggest concern I would have about May 19 is the fact that you could rattle off about 10 names that could be considered for a position in the full back line but I would be hard pressed to pick an absolutely nailed on definite starter from any of them. I'm sure Terry has a fair idea of who he wants to start in there, which is the main thing I suppose.

It certainly is a concern. We started with Dunne for FB and he got injured. McEnroe came in and did ok. The two corner backs Brady and Moynagh struggled and I think there are really 5 players going for those positions in reality - Brady, Moynagh, Flanagan, Clarke and McLoughlin.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on April 27, 2013, 01:59:39 PM
Quote from: Itchy on April 27, 2013, 01:46:23 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on April 27, 2013, 01:15:59 PM
From Lacken,  never hid where I was from. Supporting Johnston during the transfer shouldn't have automatically made me a CG member.
Never said you did hide where your from Rodney. You're a very defensive chap.

Ballyhaiseman - while we could argue either way if Clarke is top 5 in Ulster, surely to say he is top 5 in the whole country is a bit much.

If they were fit,i would probably put
Gooch,
Declan/Darren O Sullivan,
Stephen O Neil,
Michael Murphy,
Bernard Brogan,
Colm McFadden,
Donncha O Connor/Ciaran Sheehan/Colm O Neil ahead of him,but i don't know if there would be anyone else,He would definitely be in the top 10/ 12 forwards in the country but top 5 is a stretch so i would agree with you on that.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on April 27, 2013, 02:40:06 PM
Quote from: Itchy on April 27, 2013, 01:46:23 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on April 27, 2013, 01:15:59 PM
From Lacken,  never hid where I was from. Supporting Johnston during the transfer shouldn't have automatically made me a CG member.
Never said you did hide where your from Rodney.  ::) I was referring to Myles
Quote from: mylestheslasher

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I always thought Rodney was Cavan Gaels but to be honest I don't recall him ever saying.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on April 27, 2013, 02:47:43 PM
I  was basing it on players who are fit, also I think Clarke is more natural forward than O Connor, Colm O Neill is quality but has doen his cruciate for the 3rd time
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on April 27, 2013, 03:35:12 PM
Jamie Clarke is an absolutely outstanding player. In Ulster only Murphy and O'Neill are in the same League. He is streets ahead of Conor McManus. I would be amazed if he didn't start the game against us and that would be a real sign that Grimley was taking us lightly. 

I agree with the point about our full back line. It could be McLoughlin McEnroe and Minagh or it could just as easily be Flanagan Dunne and Clarke. It would be no surprise to see McCutcheon or even Dermot Sheridan start somewhere in the defence either.

With Gearoid gone Givney will surely be asked to take up the role in midfield with Corr. If so let's hope he concentrates on doing the simple things right instead of going for the hollywood scores and passes. Or is there a chance that Hyland doesn't fancy Givney at midfield at all...?

Anyone have any news on challenge games or the likes?

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on April 27, 2013, 04:55:19 PM
Rodney - I didn't accuse you of hiding your club either, even in the bit you bizarrely quoted me on above. I thought you might be a Gaels man but acknowledged that I didn't recall you ever saying.

As for Clarke, ye are are all entitled to your opinions of course but I think ye are completely over rating the lad.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cogito on April 27, 2013, 05:13:18 PM
Clarke is a top 5 forward in my opinion. I have to say though you wouldn't get to see his real class by watching games on the tele and to be fair I'd say a lot of posters here haven't seen a whole lot of him in the flesh. . At games the intelligence and frequency of his runs is incredible.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on April 27, 2013, 06:01:48 PM
I've seen him 4 times before myself in the flesh, the All Ireland Club final replay last year in Breffni, the Ulster Club Final in breffni with Cross in 2010 the year Swad were in the final. and the All Ireland Club final against Crokes in 09. I also say him play against DCU in a Ryan Cup game for UUJ in 09. He was a class act each time Imo

Yet to see him with Armagh, but saw enough of him ob tv. The league game this year alone against Longford, was something else. Although Longford were poor during the league , losing all 7 games.

Very few natural forwards like him.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on April 27, 2013, 07:33:04 PM
Well maybe you are right, I haven't seen a huge amount of him but you are rating him in the same league as a lot of exceptional players, all stars etc which is what I am sceptical off. Maybe I will change my opinion after the 19th.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cogito on April 27, 2013, 08:16:38 PM
Hopefully not!!!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: scoopmine on April 27, 2013, 08:58:20 PM
Clarke is top 5 in ulster without doubt his goal threat alone would have him up there. I actually would have him over Mcfadden but behind Murphy and SON.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on April 27, 2013, 10:10:19 PM
My second post on this forum which was in 2010 said I was from lacken.  I also commented on lots of Lacken games since then, bit obvious I would have thought.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on April 28, 2013, 12:41:31 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on April 27, 2013, 10:10:19 PM
My second post on this forum which was in 2010 said I was from lacken.  I also commented on lots of Lacken games since then, bit obvious I would have thought.

(http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y126/NEW_Rome/CIMG3276.jpg)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on April 28, 2013, 12:48:26 PM
Quote from: tommysmith on April 28, 2013, 12:41:31 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on April 27, 2013, 10:10:19 PM
My second post on this forum which was in 2010 said I was from lacken.  I also commented on lots of Lacken games since then, bit obvious I would have thought.

(http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y126/NEW_Rome/CIMG3276.jpg)

At least Tommy knows what I look like ;)

No idea what you look like yourself Tommy, ya never revealed your club.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on April 29, 2013, 11:03:23 PM
Chap on Boards claiming the whole team were drinking on their bonding weekend... I'd be shocked if this was true. Anyone know enough to put that to bed?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on April 30, 2013, 09:44:01 AM
Do no harm.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on April 30, 2013, 10:25:42 AM
Eejet, Athlone has some of the best Sports facilities in Ireland. Lots of County team have went their in the past for team bonding/training weekends. Incidentally Armagh were away last weekend for a bonding/training weekend That's not going to have any effect by the 19th of May, a tough slog now is beter than a few days before the game, they will obviously ease off in the next few weeks likewise Cavan.
http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2056198368


Good luck to St Pats in the Semi final of the Brock Cup today against St Pat's Maghera
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Babe Ruth 47 on April 30, 2013, 06:49:55 PM
More good news on the underage scene, as St. Pats beat tournament favorites Maghera by 2.

http://www.anglocelt.ie/sport/gaelicfootball/articles/2013/04/30/4015574-st-pats-qualify-for-brock-cup-final/

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on April 30, 2013, 07:23:27 PM
Cavan and Meath have a challenge game on Friday evening.

Well done to st pats?

Anyone know is our minor game against Armagh on the same day as the seniors.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on April 30, 2013, 09:51:14 PM
Alan Clarke named as captain for the championship!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: scoopmine on May 01, 2013, 10:19:39 AM
Were is that challenge game dya know?

Also Damien O'Reilly is VP who apart from one stupid mistake was one of our best players in the league and really upped his games. Congrats to both players.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on May 01, 2013, 10:41:00 AM
From another thread
Meath will tackle Cavan in a SFC Challenge at St Colmcille's on Friday night at 7.30. Colmcille's grounds is in Bettystown.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on May 01, 2013, 11:10:15 AM
Quote from: Itchy on April 30, 2013, 07:23:27 PM
Cavan and Meath have a challenge game on Friday evening.

Well done to st pats?

Anyone know is our minor game against Armagh on the same day as the seniors.
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According to advertisement the throw in is at 12.15 and 14.00 so I assume the minors are playing.

http://ulster.gaa.ie/ulster-championship-2013/
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on May 01, 2013, 11:14:00 AM
It is usually the norm to play Minor games before Senior.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on May 01, 2013, 07:28:40 PM
I know that Rodney however in recent years some minor games have been played on different days than the senior. I was wondering if that was the case this year.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on May 01, 2013, 07:55:40 PM
From Hoganstand

Begs the question why we have a poor club manager from Leitrim in charge of our County Minors. As soon as we go out of Ulster he needs to be shown the door. If he can turn things around at this stage it'll be a small miracle.

He is definitely from Gowna, played with Gowna Seniors for a number of years and won a few Championship with them. At least get that bit right, he probably will go, as his term will be up.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on May 01, 2013, 09:36:33 PM
He's from Gowna in the same way Johnston is from Kildare, not at all. Born in Leitrim, grew up in Leitrim, played with Drumreilly and eventually moved to Gowna.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on May 01, 2013, 09:41:30 PM
Is our minor team in as poor shape as the recent results suggest?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on May 01, 2013, 09:49:27 PM
The shouldn't be getting hammerings like the are, but the one team Cavan beat (Armagh), they will play in the championship. Armagh were missing 5 going by Hoganstand, but Cavan were also missing players.

Be surprised if he gets another year, next years Minor team should be good.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on May 01, 2013, 10:05:30 PM
The 2011 Minors just ticked over during the league so it's not conclusive but it seems almost impossible that a team that lose 4-12 to 5 points against Antrim will beat Armagh a few weeks later. These lads have also lost to Leitrim Minors and Offaly Minors this year. I sincerely doubt that the management is unworried by these hammerings and have secretly used these hammerings to identify the magic combination that will beat Armagh. It looks like this is just a poor bunch.

Why do you say next year's will be good Rodney? Cause of the lads who won the Brock with Cavan last year?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on May 01, 2013, 10:10:22 PM
No, Brock Cup is u15 and half. I was basing it on St Pats winning the Rannafast Cup last November. The u17 Development Squad would be quite strong.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on May 02, 2013, 11:43:05 AM
Has Donahoe any connection with the Drumreilly club these days? He has been with Gowna over ten years and was a selector with Gowna under Eamonn Coleman. Suppose if the Minors were going well it wouldn't matter where he was from.

Shaun Doherty a Fermanagh man is joint manager of St Pats Brock team. Peter Donnelly from Tyrone is Cavan Gaa Development Coach. Be great if it was Cavan men, but they are doing well since Walsh went to Oz.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Mickybingo on May 02, 2013, 12:55:49 PM
Gary Donohoe just not good enough.  No record in Club Management in Cavan.  Was run out of  Belturbet.  Achieved nothing with Kildallon last year.  Got the job as Mc Cabes sidekick.  Who are the selectors?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on May 02, 2013, 01:02:51 PM
Fintan Reilly from Redhills is one of them , not sure who the other is

I suppose when he was with McCabe in 2011 and they won Ulster .it was probably easier to keep him on.  Very likely this will be his final year either way.
Mickey Graham had a good record at club level before taking the Cavan Minors, but achieved little with the Minors. Although weren't getting hammerings like this in the Minor League.

The Minors were good last year in the Minor league and reached the league Semi's. The championship performance and tactics against Donegal was poor.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on May 02, 2013, 07:43:23 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on May 02, 2013, 11:43:05 AM
Has Donahoe any connection with the Drumreilly club these days? He has been with Gowna over ten years and was a selector with Gowna under Eamonn Coleman. Suppose if the Minors were going well it wouldn't matter where he was from.

Shaun Doherty a Fermanagh man is joint manager of St Pats Brock team. Peter Donnelly from Tyrone is Cavan Gaa Development Coach. Be great if it was Cavan men, but they are doing well since Walsh went to Oz.

He had a big falling out with Drumreilly as far as I know. That's why he went to Gowna in the first place. Was Donohoe with Kildallan?? Didn't know that.. I know he was with Ballinamore and did the same sort of nothing there.

Would be nice to see Jason Reilly or some other former player take control for next year.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on May 02, 2013, 08:30:36 PM
Quote from: Westside on May 02, 2013, 07:43:23 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on May 02, 2013, 11:43:05 AM
Has Donahoe any connection with the Drumreilly club these days? He has been with Gowna over ten years and was a selector with Gowna under Eamonn Coleman. Suppose if the Minors were going well it wouldn't matter where he was from.

Shaun Doherty a Fermanagh man is joint manager of St Pats Brock team. Peter Donnelly from Tyrone is Cavan Gaa Development Coach. Be great if it was Cavan men, but they are doing well since Walsh went to Oz.

He had a big falling out with Drumreilly as far as I know. That's why he went to Gowna in the first place. Was Donohoe with Kildallan?? Didn't know that.. I know he was with Ballinamore and did the same sort of nothing there.

Would be nice to see Jason Reilly or some other former player take control for next year.

I think it was Gavin Hartin who was over Kildallon. Don't think Donahoe would have been over them when managing Cavan Minors.

Jason is still with Lacken. for this year anyway. He was a selector for a year in Mickey Grahams final  year as Minor manager, so he would have experience of the Minor scene.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Mickybingo on May 02, 2013, 09:54:16 PM
Jason Reilly is going to be a good manager. Lacken are struggling this year though! Donohoe was definitely with Kildallon last year after the Cavan Minors were beaten.  Think the next Minor Manager should be someone capable of managing the best team in Cavan, maybe Joe O Connor.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on May 02, 2013, 10:01:07 PM
Lacken have a few bad injuries this year, Trevor Crowe is out for the year with a shoulder injury and Nevin McKiernan with cruciate injury. Few other lads carrying injuries aswell
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on May 03, 2013, 01:35:59 AM
Jesus lads lay off Gary Donohoe a bit would ye. He was the manager (not sidekick) when we finally won a Minor Championship in Ulster after a gap of 37 years. He wasn't the first choice for the job at the time but he got it and brought us success. The County Board are hardly going to sack him a few weeks before the first championship match. I know a few lads who speak highly of him from his time in Belturbet and I know the Kildallan boys had good time for him when he helped out last year.
I would be more worried about some decisions being made at the moment regarding the club Minor fixtures, or lack of in the county or the moves to pull out all the full-time coaches from the National schools.
And Rodney listen to Westside; Gary Donohoe is from Drumreilly in Leitrim. His brother Pat won a Connaught medal in 1994 for Leitrim.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on May 03, 2013, 02:19:40 AM
I don't think anyone said to sack him before the championship booj, I acklowledgend that he was from Drumreilly and asked had he any connection with the club now.

Hopefully the minors beat Armagh. We beat them already no reason why we cant do it again.

this quote from a few weeks ago gave him some backing
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Surely winning a Minor Championship 2 years ago should give him some lay way, despite the mistakes last year against Donegal..
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on May 03, 2013, 12:34:30 PM
Sensible enough stuff there Booj
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on May 03, 2013, 05:24:28 PM
Quote from: boojangles on May 03, 2013, 01:35:59 AM
Jesus lads lay off Gary Donohoe a bit would ye. He was the manager (not sidekick) when we finally won a Minor Championship in Ulster after a gap of 37 years. He wasn't the first choice for the job at the time but he got it and brought us success. The County Board are hardly going to sack him a few weeks before the first championship match. I know a few lads who speak highly of him from his time in Belturbet and I know the Kildallan boys had good time for him when he helped out last year.
I would be more worried about some decisions being made at the moment regarding the club Minor fixtures, or lack of in the county or the moves to pull out all the full-time coaches from the National schools.
And Rodney listen to Westside; Gary Donohoe is from Drumreilly in Leitrim. His brother Pat won a Connaught medal in 1994 for Leitrim.

I may be going a bit hard on him but I never suggested sacking him at this stage. I know Belturbet lads who wouldn't have any time for him, didn't he pull out with a few games to go and leave them without a manager for their last few games the year he was in charge? He's not well liked around Ballinamore since his time there either. If he was the main man in the last two years he should have had to answer for leaving the shambles against Donegal in the first round when we still had a nice few Ulster Medalists on the team. I'd be only delighted if he made me eat my words but I don't see it happening.

Why are they moving to pull coaches from schools? Funding?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on May 03, 2013, 09:04:03 PM
Cavan beat Meath, 3-14 to 1-13, changed the team at half time

https://twitter.com/CavanCoBoardGaa/status/330405607293206528
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on May 04, 2013, 08:45:42 AM
Meath team

Robbie Burlingham; Mickey Burke, Bryan Menton, Caolan Young; Seamus Kenny, Caoimhin King, Padraig Harnan; Conor Gillespie, Peadar Byrne; David larkin, Andrew Tormey, Graham Reilly; Sean Tobin, Joe Sheridan, Dalton McDonagh.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on May 04, 2013, 12:10:43 PM
Well its good to hear we had a sizable win over Meath in that challenge game. Normally at this time of the year we hear the horror stories about some fella leaving the panel of a challenge match defeat by 10 points to Leitrim etc etc. Just for some debate...

First half team (don't know their positions, but as per the program)
James Reilly
Jason McLoughlin
Rory Dunne
Dara Tighe
Padraig Reilly
Alan Clarke
Michael Brady
Killian Clarke
David Givney
Mark McKeever
Barry Reilly
Chris Conroy
Oisin O Connell
Martin Dunne
Kevin Tierney

Second half team (Likewise but I'll give rough guess)
James Reilly
Oisin Minagh
James McEnroe
Damien Barkey
Josh Hayes
Fergal Flanagan
Dara McVitty
John McCutcheon
Killian Clarke
Turloch Mooney
Martin Reilly
Cian Mackey
Niall McDermott
Eugene Keating
Ronan Flanagan


So missing in action were Thomas Corr, Declan McKiernan and Damien Reilly (anyone else?). It just shows there is competition for every place and thats a good start!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on May 04, 2013, 12:31:27 PM
Meath had a few players with club games last night that were missing a few like Stehen Bray, Michael Newman, Kevin Reilly, Brian Farrell. Good win, Cavan were suppose to have been very sharp.

Some good options with Kevin Tierney back. Turloch Mooney done well when he came on,.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on May 04, 2013, 12:58:12 PM
Well after the league there were two issues with the team for me. The first was the full back line and how easily it was cut open whenever teams broke through our front line defence. The second for me was the poor scoring spread, especially from half forwards.

When I look at the players we have that togged yesterday I see some options in the backs - Dunne  is back from injury, Mcloughlin is a good man marker, Clarke is an option anywhere from the FB line to midfield in my opinion.

We now also have some guys on there that can kick a point Tierney, Conroy, Barry Reilly, Mooney etc.

I suppose the only problem is not overloading the team with too many young lads and getting over powered against Armagh. Still, if we are beating Meath in two halves with two different line ups and are looking strong and sharp then maybe we can rattle the orchard men.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on May 04, 2013, 03:23:00 PM
McCutcheon with two goals could have pushed closer to a starting place. Good to see fierce competition for places that can only be good, but I'm sure Terry will have no trouble in choosing what he sees as his best 15.

Anyone at the game to give a report?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on May 04, 2013, 04:06:12 PM
McCutcheon was outstanding last year with Cootehill in midfield. That's where he usually plays for them, with  G McKiernan out injured he is a good option for that position, if Corr is carrying an Injury.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: whats my name on May 05, 2013, 09:24:42 AM
from what i hear corr is defo out for the armagh game he has a bad hamstring injury
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on May 05, 2013, 11:01:49 AM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on May 04, 2013, 12:10:43 PM
Normally at this time of the year we hear the horror stories about some fella leaving the panel of a challenge match defeat by 10 points to Leitrim etc etc.


How about rumors of flights booked for America for the week after the Armagh game.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on May 05, 2013, 12:26:40 PM
Quote from: tommysmith on May 05, 2013, 11:01:49 AM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on May 04, 2013, 12:10:43 PM
Normally at this time of the year we hear the horror stories about some fella leaving the panel of a challenge match defeat by 10 points to Leitrim etc etc.


How about rumors of flights booked for America for the week after the Armagh game.

You think there's truth to this Tommy? Perhaps the story is being warped. We've had situations before where lads have planned to go play in America after Cavan go out, whenever that may be. It's hard to blame them in those circumstances. But to have flights booked already... Hard to see us turning over Armagh if everyone doesn't buy into the belief that we are capable.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on May 05, 2013, 12:32:24 PM
If anyone has flights booked the county board should ring aer lingus, switch the players involved onto flights this week and drive them to the airport!
Now if this is simply lads planning to head off once the championship is over then I've no problem with that. Booking flights means you have no belief and no belief means you're no addition to the team.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on May 05, 2013, 12:33:41 PM
Sounds ridiculous, why train for the last 6 months and not believe that they can beat Armagh,they are a good side but not as if they are Dublin. It will be a big task with McKiernan missing, but still need to have belief..
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on May 05, 2013, 12:40:52 PM
In fairness is probably bullshit, although we had certain players do it before.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on May 05, 2013, 12:58:24 PM
I have no problem with lads heading away after Cavan are knocked out of the championship,as they will get some money over in the states for playing. To book flights for after the Armagh game however as Itchy has said,if it is indeed true shows a distinct lack of belief  in the abilities of the panel and  a personal lack of  commitment to the cause. This is not Armagh of 2002 vintage we are playing,we stand every chance of picking up a win in two weeks time. Some may disagree with me,but i am in the camp which believes if players leave the panel for the US before the championship has finished,they should be excluded from the panel at least for the next year. I hope that these rumours turn out to be only that.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on May 05, 2013, 01:32:37 PM
Terry Hyland seems to have quite a few enemies, you wouldn't know who is putting these rumours out. All you have to do is read the hoganstand forum to see some of them in action.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on May 05, 2013, 01:40:08 PM
Quote from: Itchy on May 05, 2013, 01:32:37 PM
Terry Hyland seems to have quite a few enemies, you wouldn't know who is putting these rumours out. All you have to do is read the hoganstand forum to see some of them in action.

I have no idea why,Terry is a very approachable and likeable fella.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on May 05, 2013, 01:48:12 PM
boards.ie seems to produce a lot of shite aswell. Like the clown going on about the trip to bonding trip to Athlone.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on May 05, 2013, 02:48:07 PM
I agree with BHM, anyone who is abandoning the panel should not be allowed back for a year and maybe for longer as how can you trust such a person again? If recent history hasn't thought us this then we haven't been paying attention! Hyland certainly has people against him and as Itchy says you only have to look at some other forum to see an influx of nasty comments whenever his team loses and those same people no where to be seen when he wins. We all remember the famous Richiej too.

So Corr seems to be out and Declan McKiernan wasnt playing against Meath so that probably means he is injured too. That leaves Givney and AN other. It looks like Clarke is to be tried but we also have McCutcheon and perhaps Clarke? It will be interesting to see who plays where.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on May 05, 2013, 03:43:26 PM
I wouldn't have Clarke at midfield. He just doesn't have the physicality for a central position, yet at any rate. McCutcheon would be my choice after Corr and then Declan McKiernan. Anyway it's still 2 weeks until the game so they could be back yet.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on May 05, 2013, 08:22:31 PM
So what went on today in ballinagh. I hear there were allegations of biting. I didnt hear who the player was but I think I can guess.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on May 05, 2013, 09:02:55 PM
Game was yesterday. Poor carry on from the player, although he is a liability any time he on a football field.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on May 06, 2013, 02:35:58 PM
Quote from: Westside on May 05, 2013, 12:26:40 PM
Quote from: tommysmith on May 05, 2013, 11:01:49 AM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on May 04, 2013, 12:10:43 PM
Normally at this time of the year we hear the horror stories about some fella leaving the panel of a challenge match defeat by 10 points to Leitrim etc etc.


How about rumors of flights booked for America for the week after the Armagh game.

You think there's truth to this Tommy? Perhaps the story is being warped. We've had situations before where lads have planned to go play in America after Cavan go out, whenever that may be. It's hard to blame them in those circumstances. But to have flights booked already... Hard to see us turning over Armagh if everyone doesn't buy into the belief that we are capable.

I don't know i just was talking to a lad and he had heard that quiet a few are going over.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on May 06, 2013, 02:51:45 PM
If a player was intending to go to the States for the summer and was currently on the panel, he would have been better off saying at the start of the year that he couldn't commit to County football for the year. I'm sure there is lots of lads that would like to play County football, somebody to be around a panel all year and then plan to go after the Armagh game, it doesn't sound right.
Maybe if they were beaten by Armagh and then decided to go for the rest of the summer to play some ball over there ,and get a few quid, that is different. Although they would still be missing the qualifier's.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on May 06, 2013, 03:07:23 PM
Pats level in the Brock final http://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=ulster%20colleges%20twitter&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&sqi=2&ved=0CC0QFjAA&url=https%3A%2F%2Ftwitter.com%2FUlster_Colleges&ei=yriHUeS3LISd7gbAxIBY&usg=AFQjCNEyTBH8YqvVhFaL4yiZqBg-bLBKzA
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on May 06, 2013, 03:17:14 PM
I wouldn't be overly happy with lads leaving after we were knocked out of Ulster, being realistic a bit of a qualifier run is what this team should be looking to directly after we exit Ulster. This is another situation where it's hard to blame them for wanting to go, it's amateur and you're only young and fit once.. But it's disappointing from a supporters perspective to think that the belief isn't there in some players. All assuming there's any truth to this of course.

If lads have decided to go when we exit the championship completely then good luck to them. If lads have decided to fly out after the 19th regardless then they shouldn't have committed for the year IMO.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on May 06, 2013, 03:27:50 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on May 06, 2013, 03:07:23 PM
Pats level in the Brock final http://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=ulster%20colleges%20twitter&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&sqi=2&ved=0CC0QFjAA&url=https%3A%2F%2Ftwitter.com%2FUlster_Colleges&ei=yriHUeS3LISd7gbAxIBY&usg=AFQjCNEyTBH8YqvVhFaL4yiZqBg-bLBKzA

Sounds like a cracker. St. Pat's Maghera scored an injury time penalty to draw the game. Extra time coming up.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on May 06, 2013, 03:31:24 PM
Quote from: Westside on May 06, 2013, 03:27:50 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on May 06, 2013, 03:07:23 PM
Pats level in the Brock final http://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=ulster%20colleges%20twitter&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&sqi=2&ved=0CC0QFjAA&url=https%3A%2F%2Ftwitter.com%2FUlster_Colleges&ei=yriHUeS3LISd7gbAxIBY&usg=AFQjCNEyTBH8YqvVhFaL4yiZqBg-bLBKzA

Sounds like a cracker. St. Pat's Maghera scored an injury time penalty to draw the game. Extra time coming up.

Yeah, Pats were up by 6. Good comeback by Dungannon. Hopefully Pats don't slip up again in Extra time
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on May 06, 2013, 03:43:43 PM
Falling apart in Extra time, that late goal was a sucker bunch. Game was won
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on May 06, 2013, 03:47:34 PM
Pity.. Up by 6 with a few minutes to go and end up losing is very tough on them. It was always going to be tough in ET with the opposition having all the momentum.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on May 09, 2013, 09:42:28 PM
Be god it is quit in here! According to Hoganstand, Thomas Corr could be fit for the game yet. I presume he would be missing a fair bit of training though so will be interesting to see whether he starts or not. Some fella on the forum over there says Martin Dunne is injured, although I think the source is very dubious. Anyone know if there is any truth to that?

At this time of the year I always get this irrational boost of optimism and its happening again, its bound to be well founded one of these years.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on May 09, 2013, 10:40:22 PM
The lad who said about Dunne constantly posts blatant lies about the Cavan team and in particular Cavan Gaels players. Dunne was training the other night anyway so he's fine.

A win would be massive. Although any time I think of Jamie Clarke v our defence I get a slight shiver..
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on May 13, 2013, 05:02:49 PM
Alan Clarke and Ciaran McKeever speaking ahead of Sundays game https://twitter.com/UlsterGAA/status/333973540653133827

McKeever sounds like fr stone from Father ted
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: scoopmine on May 14, 2013, 11:27:36 AM
My 15 for Sunday

Reilly (since Alan is out.)


Killian Clarke
James Macenroe
Jason McLoughlin

John Mcutchon
Alan Clarke
O'Relly

Mossie Corr/Declan McKiernan (I think Corr is out)
David Givney

Cian Mackey
Barry Reilly
Mark McKeever

Martin Dunne
Eugene Keating
Jack Brady
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on May 14, 2013, 11:33:18 AM
Quote from: scoopmine on May 14, 2013, 11:27:36 AM
My 15 for Sunday

Reilly (since Alan is out.)



Did he get injured again?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on May 14, 2013, 12:40:23 PM
I think Miller was always going to be in nets for the Championship. Better keeper imo than O Meara.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: scoopmine on May 14, 2013, 03:43:47 PM
Think he is still in trouble from when he broke the hand vs Sligo.

Miller is a better shotstopper but in every other area I would have O'Mara in nets.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on May 14, 2013, 04:43:57 PM
Think Miller is a lot more solid under high balls aswell. Bar the one he spilled against Fermanagh he caught 2 certain pts from going over the bar.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on May 14, 2013, 04:49:01 PM
O'mara has been playing in training games and if fit i would have him in for his kick outs.

While Miller is the better keeper his kick outs are a lottery.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on May 14, 2013, 09:31:36 PM
You have to ask yourself what is the role of the modern day GAA keeper. They will rarely have to make the one on one saves. It is not about thumping huge kicks out the field anymore either. For me it is..

Accurate kick outs
Being able to vary kick outs.
Confidence and accuracy to take a short kick out.
Command the small box under the high ball
Read the game ahead of you and react quickly.

For me the biggest problem with Miller has been that he has not improved any aspect of his game. He looks to have weight on, he is dopey and he has just thumped the ball up the field. What he does have is a physical presence and he does have the experience on playing at this level.

O Meara has more accurate kick outs and is more alert but not as physical. He also is a dedicated member of the panel.

Gilsenan has the physique, good kicks.

Having said that, I think Miller will get in there due to his experience. Gilsenan probably needs an extended run in the league for the seniors before being put in at the deep end. O Meara needs to bulk up a bit. I only hope Miller has got the finger out and stops living on his past performances and has worked on the weak areas of his game.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on May 14, 2013, 09:57:06 PM
Quote from: tommysmith on May 14, 2013, 04:49:01 PM
O'mara has been playing in training games and if fit i would have him in for his kick outs.

While Miller is the better keeper his kick outs are a lottery.


good to hear he's playing training games because I understand he is playing feck all club games, ditto Gilsenan
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: beer baron on May 14, 2013, 10:17:18 PM
Team named.Whether it starts like this who knows but i'd be surprised if there isn't one or 2 positional and personnel changes.

CGilsenan.JMcLoughlin.RDunne.KClarke.JMcEnroe.AClarke.RFlanagan.DReilly.DGivney.CMackey.JBrady.FFlanagan.NMcDermott.MDunne.EKeating. vArmagh
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on May 14, 2013, 10:35:21 PM
Be surprised if that was the actual starting team, but if it is best of luck to them. It will be a tough test.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on May 14, 2013, 10:41:18 PM
Surprised to see McKeever not start. Other than that the team looks about right apart from a few positional changes. I'd be worried about O'Reilly at midfield but if that's our only option I suppose we could do worse.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on May 14, 2013, 11:02:50 PM
Few odd calls but I suppose we aren't seeing who is doing well and who isn't in training. Fergal Flanagan is probably getting the job of tracking kernan. Golden an in for keeper is a big call given that its his debut but I hope he does himself justice. I would have liked to see Barry Reilly start but Jack gets the nod over him and Martin Reilly. Very hard on Martin who has bust his arose in every game this year. Anyway good luck to them, its a squad game and we've some quality on the bench.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on May 14, 2013, 11:13:11 PM
There is a possibility that Damien reilly will go wing back, ronan Flanagan corner back and Killian Clarke midfield?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: beer baron on May 14, 2013, 11:28:55 PM
I'd say there's plenty of different possibilities,Mc Enroe go full back,Clarke Midfield and Damien Reilly half back. Is Dunne even fit?Heard a week or 2 back he was injured?  ???
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on May 14, 2013, 11:49:15 PM
Need more from the other forwards on Sunday. Last year against Donegal, it was mainly keating. Dunne wasn't involved that day and McDermott came on as a sub. This will be Dunnes first Championship game if he is fit.

Clarke will probably play in the middle, played the whole game there against Meath. He doesn't look the strongest for Senior yet, another year u21, but may be proved wrong on Sunday.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on May 15, 2013, 10:43:27 AM
It's not a great team lads alot of stronger players not starting.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on May 15, 2013, 07:19:04 PM
Quote from: tommysmith on May 15, 2013, 10:43:27 AM
It's not a great team lads alot of stronger players not starting.

A lot?? Such as who?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on May 15, 2013, 10:11:57 PM
See tipp beat cork in minor championship tonight think our  lads had a good workout against Tipp recently so hope it stands to them on Sunday. Big big ask for the seniors hope we can get something out of it, we seem to have injury problems but Armagh have plenty to complain about on that front also .

Does anybody know what Conor Gilsenans club situation is? I understand he hasn't togged out for the Shamrocks a whole lot and was trying to transfer out to Killinkere, not ideal. Understand O Mara hasn't been seen around Saint Annes Park much either. Strange.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on May 15, 2013, 10:15:59 PM
Gilsenan was in nets 2 weeks ago for a League game. Remember reading the report in the Celt, think it was his first game for  Bailieborough this year
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on May 15, 2013, 10:30:28 PM
Quote from: anglocelt39 on May 15, 2013, 10:11:57 PM
See tipp beat cork in minor championship tonight think our  lads had a good workout against Tipp recently so hope it stands to them on Sunday. Big big ask for the seniors hope we can get something out of it, we seem to have injury problems but Armagh have plenty to complain about on that front also .

Does anybody know what Conor Gilsenans club situation is? I understand he hasn't togged out for the Shamrocks a whole lot and was trying to transfer out to Killinkere, not ideal. Understand O Mara hasn't been seen around Saint Annes Park much either. Strange.

I was told by a fellow supporter at the Meath match that he tried to transfer and a objection by Drumalee (who were trying to stop another transfer) stopped it. Killeshandra played Bailieboro earlier in the league and neither of the O Mara's or Gilsenan were in goals. Seems strange but maybe there is a reason.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on May 15, 2013, 10:50:13 PM
Anglo, how did the minors get on against Tipp. I'm really hoping they can prove their doubters wrong and put their mixed form behind them
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on May 16, 2013, 07:55:29 AM
Don't know how they got on against Tipp except to hear a second hand report that they lost by 3 points. Tipp have put in a serious amount of work at Under 15, 16, 17 and minor over the past several years and any team that beats cork at minor level would have to be useful.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on May 16, 2013, 09:59:34 AM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on May 15, 2013, 10:30:28 PM
Quote from: anglocelt39 on May 15, 2013, 10:11:57 PM
See tipp beat cork in minor championship tonight think our  lads had a good workout against Tipp recently so hope it stands to them on Sunday. Big big ask for the seniors hope we can get something out of it, we seem to have injury problems but Armagh have plenty to complain about on that front also .

Does anybody know what Conor Gilsenans club situation is? I understand he hasn't togged out for the Shamrocks a whole lot and was trying to transfer out to Killinkere, not ideal. Understand O Mara hasn't been seen around Saint Annes Park much either. Strange.

I was told by a fellow supporter at the Meath match that he tried to transfer and a objection by Drumalee (who were trying to stop another transfer) stopped it. Killeshandra played Bailieboro earlier in the league and neither of the O Mara's or Gilsenan were in goals. Seems strange but maybe there is a reason.

That is very strange as transfers are decided by the CCC and only a club involved can object as far as i know.  Aren't killinkere and Baileboro neighbouring parish or even same parish? , that should have been automatic as far as i know.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: seafoid on May 16, 2013, 11:12:29 AM
Quote from: tommysmith on May 16, 2013, 09:59:34 AM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on May 15, 2013, 10:30:28 PM
Quote from: anglocelt39 on May 15, 2013, 10:11:57 PM
See tipp beat cork in minor championship tonight think our  lads had a good workout against Tipp recently so hope it stands to them on Sunday. Big big ask for the seniors hope we can get something out of it, we seem to have injury problems but Armagh have plenty to complain about on that front also .

Does anybody know what Conor Gilsenans club situation is? I understand he hasn't togged out for the Shamrocks a whole lot and was trying to transfer out to Killinkere, not ideal. Understand O Mara hasn't been seen around Saint Annes Park much either. Strange.

I was told by a fellow supporter at the Meath match that he tried to transfer and a objection by Drumalee (who were trying to stop another transfer) stopped it. Killeshandra played Bailieboro earlier in the league and neither of the O Mara's or Gilsenan were in goals. Seems strange but maybe there is a reason.

That is very strange as transfers are decided by the CCC and only a club involved can object as far as i know.  Aren't killinkere and Baileboro neighbouring parish or even same parish? , that should have been automatic as far as i know.
Wasn't the great Jim Smith from Killinkere? What happened to the genes?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: PhilsJemmysField on May 16, 2013, 11:58:54 AM
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Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: PhilsJemmysField on May 16, 2013, 12:01:49 PM
1     Official Jim Smith Gene pool alive and well and relations still playing for Killinkere
2     Conor G transfer not signed by BBoro went to CCC they would not approve it. So some big pow wow organized by county board and Conor and BBoro must have patched it all up


Think we have a team that will WORK and OUT Work Armagh bounce of a ball and we might do it. If we WORK hard enough
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: scoopmine on May 16, 2013, 12:12:48 PM
I think its awful how some on the Hogan are complaining about the minors. Really personal I don't think its on. Really hope they pull it out on Sunday!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on May 16, 2013, 12:37:48 PM
Jack brady on the Cadbury's list of the up and coming talents for 2013.  Well done Jack.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on May 16, 2013, 01:09:26 PM
Interesting to see the Maghera Senior team playing in Division 1A of the reserve championship.

https://twitter.com/CavanCoBoardGaa/status/334042359673286656/photo/1
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on May 16, 2013, 01:22:19 PM
Same group as Ramor, If they had some of Ramor's Senior team they would have a fairly good side. James McEnroe , Shane and Ado Cole should be playing for Maghera. The Monagahan's would have been Maghera aswell.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on May 16, 2013, 01:40:14 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on May 16, 2013, 01:22:19 PM
Same group as Ramor, If they had some of Ramor's Senior team they would have a fairly good side. James McEnroe , Shane and Ado Cole should be playing for Maghera. The Monagahan's would have been Maghera aswell.

What is the problem out there anyone know, why do they not want to play with their local club?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on May 16, 2013, 01:53:17 PM
Them lads would have always played with Ramor, under age it would have been the amalgamation of Lurgan, Ramor/Maghera. Suppose Ramor a Senior team aswell ,higher level of football.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on May 16, 2013, 07:31:42 PM
Quote from: PhilsJemmysField on May 16, 2013, 12:01:49 PM
1     Official Jim Smith Gene pool alive and well and relations still playing for Killinkere
2     Conor G transfer not signed by BBoro went to CCC they would not approve it. So some big pow wow organized by county board and Conor and BBoro must have patched it all up


Think we have a team that will WORK and OUT Work Armagh bounce of a ball and we might do it. If we WORK hard enough


I think we have a fighting chance on Sunday even though the bookies and pundits don't think so. It really will come down to marginal things and one of these will be the mindset of the panel. I know Terry and Tom Reilly are talking talking talking about long term development plans and need for patience and they are right.n However if that outlook has insinuated itself into the minds of even one or two panel members we are at a disadvantage. On the other hand if every single panel member is approaching this as their personal all ireland final and really believes they can do it we have a game. Looking at the last few years against Donegal you really wonder whether the lads believed they could beat them.

So if we win on Sunday fantastic and a real sign of progress. If we lose by a point or two to a better team having gone absolutely hell for leather and taken the game to Armagh I won't be too disappointed. If we lose through a lack a belief among players in our ability to win it will be disappointing.

Patience is good up to a point. McHugh wasn't too patient when he came in and took us from not winning a championship game in 9 years to two Ulster finals in three years and an Under 21 AIF. Time for a bit of that attitude again I hope.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on May 16, 2013, 09:11:08 PM
Itchy and Myles getting some abuse on HS I see. It's crazy reading what's going on over there. After a solid league and some actual signs of progress it's astonishing that so many people have the knives out for Hyland. I can only imagine the diatribe that will be directed Hyland's way if we lose.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on May 16, 2013, 09:32:52 PM
Didn't pick Itchy as Myles in disguise myself in fairness, interesting theory though. Hogan Stand just gets more traffic than here so more of the two extremes, some really good posters but some quare headers whom you can ignore normally but every so often the full moon brings them out in force.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on May 16, 2013, 09:46:27 PM
May aswell not go to Breffni Sunday if you were to read the stuff from Hoganstand

edit: that has nothing to with me whatever is being said about Itchy/Myles on Hoganstand. We had a falling out before but that's water under the bridge
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on May 16, 2013, 10:14:57 PM

Not that long ago I was accused of being someone else I think, Tommy was it?

The truth is this all stems from SJ leaving. There are a lot of people that were on the SJ side of that argument and they would like to see Cavan fail as they associate Hyland with that decision, right or wrong. Its almost like the whole Roy Keane thing in Saipan. I can't think of any other reason the most successful manager in Cavan and indeed the most successful players in Cavan are getting such abuse from certain individuals. Its time we all forgot about that incident, myself included, and just support the team.



Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on May 16, 2013, 10:17:34 PM
I always though you were richiej  :D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on May 16, 2013, 10:31:35 PM
Richiej was a East End London gangster. aka Ronnie Kray, 
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on May 17, 2013, 12:05:20 AM
Quote from: tommysmith on May 16, 2013, 10:17:34 PM
I always though you were richiej  :D


Tommy didn't someone once suggest on here that you were Miley's lovechild?? Might have been related to a few things including your pointed reluctance to disclose your club affiliations. Anyway I'm sure we all look forward to this new thread you will eventually start to disclose the startling inside facts about Cavan GAA's inner workings.

You don't have to leave this site to come across hogan stand nonsense. That Meath knob with the punctuation fetish once accused Miley of being myself in disguise if I'm not mistaken.

Gowan da blues.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on May 17, 2013, 12:57:17 AM
Anyway I'm sure we all look forward to this new thread you will eventually start to disclose the startling inside facts about Cavan GAA's inner workings.

Be looking forward to that too, the missing link to winning Sam.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on May 17, 2013, 09:50:25 AM
Quote from: rodney trotter on May 17, 2013, 12:57:17 AM
Anyway I'm sure we all look forward to this new thread you will eventually start to disclose the startling inside facts about Cavan GAA's inner workings.

Be looking forward to that too, the missing link to winning Sam.

You will have to wait for the thread lads but i may disclose it all in my autobiography  ;D

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on May 17, 2013, 12:08:54 PM

Cavan v Armagh, Kingspan Breffni Park, Cavan, 2pm

Friday, May 17, 2013

Sunday, May 19
   Ulster GAA Football Championship Preliminary Round
   Cavan v Armagh, Kingspan Breffni Park, Cavan, 2pm

For the second year in a row, Cavan are involved in the first game of the Ulster Senior Championship. Last year, Terry Hyland's young side lost to eventual All-Ireland champions Donegal in the Preliminary Round; 12 months on, once again on home turf in Kingspan Breffni Park, they face the most successful team in the province in recent times, Armagh.

Although the Orchard County last won an Ulster title in 2008, they have claimed seven titles since Cavan's last success, all the way back in 1997. Still, the Breffni County lead the roll of honour in Ulster by a considerable margin with 39 provincial titles, although that famous '97 win is their only success since the late 1960s.


Cavan may be considered faded aristocracy in Ulster, but they approach this championship campaign full of vitality and with a young squad brimming with confidence after the county earned a third straight Ulster U21 title this spring. Hyland's squad is made up primarily of graduates of those recent successful U21 sides, with the team that lost the All-Ireland final to Galway under his guidance in 2011 forming the base of his team.

It was a brave move by Hyland to start from scratch and chart out a long-term vision for the future of Cavan football, and he has stuck admirably to his plan in a football-mad county where patience is not always an abundant virtue. In an interview with GAA.ie this week, Hyland explained that he is not necessarily too concerned about attaining immediate success with the team.

"We're not looking to suddenly win an Ulster title or an All-Ireland title within a year or two," he said. "We're building for the future and that was a conscious decision taken in Cavan in the last few years, that we were going to look at certain age levels and focus on that and try and put in a good strong foundation going forward."

One of the inevitable results of going with such an inexperienced squad was some pretty erratic form in the Allianz League. Cavan managed to beat the two promoted teams, Monaghan and Meath, but they were undone by defeats to Antrim and Roscommon. A record of played seven, won three, lost three and drew one tells its own story.



One major disappointment in the build-up to the game has been the loss of influential midfielder Gearóid McKiernan to a cruciate tear a few weeks back. The Cavan U21 captain in 2011, McKiernan is a very mature and dynamic performer, and his class will be sorely missed this summer, although DIT Sigerson Cup winner David Givney is a very tidy replacement.

Hyland blooded most of the new players last year, so goalkeeper Conor Gilsenen, a member of this year's U21 team who comes in for injured clubmate Alan O'Mara, and full-forward Martin Dunne are the only championship debutants in the side.

While Cavan's decision to foster a youth policy has gained plenty of attention, Armagh manager Paul Grimley has been staging a much quieter revolution in Armagh. Grimley has named three championship newcomers in his side, including 18-year-old Ciaron O'Hanlon, who played for St Paul's, Bessbrook in the MacRory Cup but has never featured at senior inter-county level before.

"Once he came into the panel and started training, it just firmed up what I already knew about him," Grimley said. "He is not only a skilful footballer, but extremely brainy, and very unselfish. This lad has a bright future.

"It was an easy decision. There's no reason in my mind for holding him back. If he's good enough to play, he starts. I don't like to over-complicate things."


Mark Shields and Stephen Harold are the two other debutants while Paul McKeown has a solitary appearance as a sub in a Qualifier against Donegal in 2010 to his name. Grimley's hand has been forced to a degree by injuries to seven squad members, but it is nonetheless a bold selection and one clearly made with one eye on the future.

As is often the case with teams with new managers, Armagh had a very mixed campaign with two wins, two draws and three defeats leaving them in sixth place in Division II. They rounded off their campaign with an impressive 0-21 to 1-12 win over Galway, and with Jamie Clarke back from his sojourn in South America they should be in a better position now.

The sides last met in the Ulster Championship in the 2008 quarter-final, when Armagh won by 0-17 to 0-13 at Kingspan Breffni Park on the way to their last provincial title. The winners play Fermanagh in the quarter-final on June 16.

Cavan: C Gilsenan; J McLoughlin, R Dunne, K Clarke; J McEnroe, A Clarke, R Flanagan; D O'Reilly, D Givney; C Mackey, J Brady, F Flanagan; N McDermott, M Dunne, E Keating.

Armagh: P McEvoy; P McKeown, D McKenna, M Shields; A Kernan, B Donaghy, C McKeever; J Lavery, S Harold; C Rafferty, C O'Hanlon, K Dyas; T Kernan, J Clarke, S Forker.

http://t.co/orWZKNrdSa
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on May 17, 2013, 05:03:06 PM
Funny thing is I tried posting something on hoganstand around same time as dirtbag and mine was censored! Please God he stays there and doesn't invade gaaboard.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dirtyball on May 18, 2013, 06:13:25 AM
Quote from: Itchy on May 17, 2013, 05:03:06 PM
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Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on May 18, 2013, 09:41:17 AM
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Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dirtyball on May 18, 2013, 03:41:36 PM
Quote from: Itchy on May 18, 2013, 09:41:17 AM
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Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on May 18, 2013, 04:06:10 PM
Article from the Times


For a couple of Armagh's starting team the venue for tomorrow's Ulster championship opener against Cavan will bring back happy memories. Aaron Kernan and Ciarán McKeever were both on the side that won the All-Ireland under-21 title against Mayo nine years ago.

Yet, the limited extent of that graduation says something about the lasting impact of the class of 2004. Contemplating the alchemy that turns underage success into senior gold isn't just the preserve of Armagh. Between the two counties, they and Cavan have won half of the last 10 Ulster under-21 titles, Cavan in a three-in-a-row run, which rolls on to next year.

Former senior captain Jarlath Burns has for the past couple of decades watched with interest the emerging talent in Armagh and he sees the team of nine years ago as being the result of an inverse process.

"The strange thing about 2004 is that it was a very good team and inspired by the 2002 (senior) All-Ireland winners, who were closely involved with them. I mean if you've Kieran McGeeney and Paul McGrane coming in to give you pep talks you're going to respond.

"It wasn't a team with stars – there was no Jamie Clarke – but they were a strong bunch of players. Stephen Kernan was Man of the Match in the final and Malachy Mackin next in line but it was an outstanding collective performance.

"It's funny how a losing team can produce five or six players for the seniors and a winning team not as many. The best example is the 1992 minors, who lost to Meath but produced four or five players for the All-Ireland panel 10 years later."

As a postscript on that, the Meath minor team which defeated Armagh with an injury-time goal in 1992 produced fewer senior medallists than the following year's minors who lost their All-Ireland final to Cork.

Cavan haven't hit the highest notes for over 60 years but reached an All-Ireland under-21 final 17 years ago and 12 months later had won a senior Ulster title. Peter Reilly was captain of the 1996 under-21s and manager of the team that recorded its third successive provincial title this year. He agrees with Burns's definitions.

"There are two sides to it: a team which works as a unit without superstars and a team built around outstanding individuals. Donegal in 2010 got to an All-Ireland but they had a stand-out player in Michael Murphy. They beat Cavan in the Ulster final and I can safely say that they wouldn't have without him."

Aside from the different types of teams that win underage All-Irelands there is a positive dynamic for a county in bringing back inter-county silverware at whatever age grade. Cavan captain Alan Clarke summed up the optimistic side of underage success from the perspective of both morale and practical consideration.

"The more titles you win at underage surely has to have a positive effect on the senior team because these players are starting to feed through. Most of the players on the panel have won a medal at county level, which is a massive boost.

"Going back five years, Cavan players hadn't that underage structure behind them and hadn't the medals. We're full of confidence and the young lads are full of confidence, which means the older lads know that if they're not stepping up to the plate there'll be a younger player stepping into their position."
Cautious response
Asked what sort of a team his under-21s are likely to prove, Reilly is cautious about either damning his players with faint praise or creating the pressure of unreasonable expectation.

"I'd look at our team as having extremely strong-minded individuals within a strong collective. But there's probably no scientific formula for working it out.

"Our team that won Ulster (in 1997) came together with a previous under-21 team that had lost the 1988 All-Ireland final so it was a combination of the two. I think as well there's too much read into it in retrospect.

"Hindsight is a great thing. We don't really know what impact a successful underage team will have until we look back and see how they got on at senior. We beat a Meath team in our All-Ireland (U-21) semi-final and five of them went on to win senior All-Irelands a month later.

"There's no rules but on the law of averages I know that Cavan are now better off than they were three years ago."





Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on May 18, 2013, 04:09:22 PM
Quote from: Dirtyball on May 18, 2013, 03:41:36 PM
Quote from: Itchy on May 18, 2013, 09:41:17 AM
Quote from: Dirtyball on May 18, 2013, 06:13:25 AM
Quote from: Itchy on May 17, 2013, 05:03:06 PM
Funny thing is I tried posting something on hoganstand around same time as dirtbag and mine was censored! Please God he stays there and doesn't invade gaaboard.
mylestheslasher stop answering your own posts. It's a sign of madness taking to yourself. !!

I've better things to do than debate with you. Take Westsides advice.
so you not denying that you mylestheslasher then Itchy? You just have to read your posts on various threads to work that out. Sad really that you feel the need to debate issues with yourself!!!
Yes I am, now I'm done talking to you so do me a favour and direct your shite talk somewhere else.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dirtyball on May 18, 2013, 04:18:23 PM
Quote from: Itchy on May 18, 2013, 04:09:22 PM
Quote from: Dirtyball on May 18, 2013, 03:41:36 PM
Quote from: Itchy on May 18, 2013, 09:41:17 AM
Quote from: Dirtyball on May 18, 2013, 06:13:25 AM
Quote from: Itchy on May 17, 2013, 05:03:06 PM
Funny thing is I tried posting something on hoganstand around same time as dirtbag and mine was censored! Please God he stays there and doesn't invade gaaboard.
mylestheslasher stop answering your own posts. It's a sign of madness taking to yourself. !!

I've better things to do than debate with you. Take Westsides advice.
so you not denying that you mylestheslasher then Itchy? You just have to read your posts on various threads to work that out. Sad really that you feel the need to debate issues with yourself!!!
Yes I am, now I'm done talking to you so do me a favour and direct your shite talk somewhere else.
typical mylestheslasher answer!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on May 18, 2013, 10:37:35 PM
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Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: big balla on May 19, 2013, 03:45:43 PM
Quote from: Itchy on May 18, 2013, 04:09:22 PM
Quote from: Dirtyball on May 18, 2013, 03:41:36 PM
Quote from: Itchy on May 18, 2013, 09:41:17 AM
Quote from: Dirtyball on May 18, 2013, 06:13:25 AM
Quote from: Itchy on May 17, 2013, 05:03:06 PM
Funny thing is I tried posting something on hoganstand around same time as dirtbag and mine was censored! Please God he stays there and doesn't invade gaaboard.
mylestheslasher stop answering your own posts. It's a sign of madness taking to yourself. !!

I've better things to do than debate with you. Take Westsides advice.
so you not denying that you mylestheslasher then Itchy? You just have to read your posts on various threads to work that out. Sad really that you feel the need to debate issues with yourself!!!
Yes I am, now I'm done talking to you so do me a favour and direct your shite talk somewhere else.

Well said. Dirtyball you are an idiot with nothing insightful to say about Cavan football. That was a huge win for Cavan and one that was badly needed.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on May 19, 2013, 04:07:50 PM
Fair play to all concerned today, two good victories for our minor and senior teams and badly needed.

There was lots of good things in that performance, mostly so the steady and cool-headed response to the goal. There's clearly a steely psychology underpinning our team now and it's very encouraging to see. Collectively we defended very well for most of the game, the goal was a bit of a slippy one that can happen to any team really. The response was excellent though.

Midfield looked very strange all through, quite isolated and we lost a lot of kick outs early on. In the crucial stages we won a lot more breaking ball though and that's when it counted most.

We should commend a young and learning Cavan team for this win, while being mindful of how poor Armagh were by contrast. If anything, Cavan should have taken them for more scores with all the space we had when the ball came in, and we left them in the game way longer than they deserved to be. Some wild shooting and selfishness from Keating didn't help but otherwise he had a big bearing on the result; he roasted his man and then got hands on a lot of ball at a crucial time when he moved out around the middle of the field.
Dunne was excellent but he will play a long time before he has such freedom again. But you can only beat what's put in front of you and in this lad we have an inside forward of real class who can develop and get even better.
Martin Reilly had a very positive impact when he came on, he carried a lot of ball out of defence and relieved a lot of pressure, Ronan Flanagan and Mackey got through a lot of work as well.
You'd have to be happy with our first Ulster championship win since 2009. There's a bit of mental toughness there, togetherness, team spirit, a clear plan and a great work ethic and pride in the jersey. In the bleak times of a few years ago, that's all any of us wanted to see in our players and now we have it.
Armagh can feel aggrieved at the decision to disallow the goal but they got the rub of the green for the goal that did stand so maybe it evened out. Bad decision or no, it would have been a travesty had they got anything out of that game. It's hard to see where they can go now and it looks like the suspicions about Grimley are proving to be true.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on May 19, 2013, 04:33:16 PM
start of the year I would have been happy with 1, going into the last day of a dangerous division three with status secured 2. three good championship days out and 3, not getting humiliated by anybody at senior level. Happy days. Absolutely super wins today, compliment players management and backroom teams for both seniors and minors. Of course Armagh were disappointing partly because our lads worked like dogs and didn't give them anything to work with. In addition to the lads singled out in the previous post I would comment on Fergal Flanagan who worked like a dog when the going was tough and also Niall McDermott. He has been  a lad who seems to get a small bit of a hard time from some of the keyboard experts, I'm delighted he is being stuck with and given the chance to develop into an inter county player. Too often in the past Cavan lads were getting one chance and if they weren't immediately the next Texas Brady or Charlie Gallagher they were getting dispensed with for somebody else.

Fermanagh next and we owe Canavan one for the league performance when let us say his "stamp" was on the Lake Mens team. What's the story with Givney two yellows??? Positive things are that the likes of Mossy Corr, McKeever, Barry Reilly, Hayes, McCutcheon and a few others are available to man up if needed.

Also delighted for our minors players and selectors. How nice to be bagging a late win, god knows it's been to opposite way too often in the past 10 years.

This site and Hogan should be mercifully free of some of the usual shitehawks over the next few weeks.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on May 19, 2013, 04:52:57 PM
Great win for both Minors and Seniors. Ryan Connolly was outstanding for the Minors, kicked some great scores with either foot from impossible angles. Ben Kiernan was very good too, and Tom Hayes worked hard inside. Grey McGoveren put in a good shit in the middle. Cavan were the better side for the majority of the game but kicked a lot of wides, Armagh seemed to make better use of the possession they had. Thankfully Cavan snatched a late win. Its a great boost after a poor minor League. They will fancy their chances against Fermanagh, Game will be in Clones asaik like the Senior

Great win for the Seniors too against the odds going by the bookies. hopefully that shut a few up.
Cavan tactics were spot on, and they nullified Jamie Clarke very well. Mackey was excellent limking attack and defence and took the goal very well. Good to see Mackey back on the panel, he was always a quality player since Minor. Martin Dunne will get all the plaudits and fair play to him. Missed a few poor free's in the first half, but then settled down and kicked some wonder scores. McEnroe was very good, looks very comfortable in the half back . Keating and McDermott were always lively and linked well with Martin Dunne. Thought Ronan Flanagan worked very hard too

Givney's 2 yellow won't mean anything. He will be available the  next day
Cavan will be ready for Fermanagh and the cynical shite that Canavan has them playing
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: PhilsJemmysField on May 19, 2013, 05:25:43 PM
Great stuff unbelievable that Armagh never dropped a Man back in front of the Full Forward line. We will never see that against Fermanagh, will be another dog fight and hopefully this time we will bite. We wasted a lot of simple chances should have been out of sight yet probably lost the midfield battle at times so a funny game in ways. Still just cannot understand how Armagh never dropped a man back so I would say Grimley will come under the microscope for that. We definitely out worked them so that is a good start. Is the next day in Brewster ?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on May 19, 2013, 05:29:14 PM
Quote from: PhilsJemmysField on May 19, 2013, 05:25:43 PM
Great stuff unbelievable that Armagh never dropped a Man back in front of the Full Forward line. We will never see that against Fermanagh, will be another dog fight and hopefully this time we will bite. We wasted a lot of simple chances should have been out of sight yet probably lost the midfield battle at times so a funny game in ways. Still just cannot understand how Armagh never dropped a man back so I would say Grimley will come under the microscope for that. We definitely out worked them so that is a good start. Is the next day in Brewster ?

Orginally fixed for Brewster but the G8 meeting will be on in Enniskillen, in that period. Clones asaik
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on May 19, 2013, 06:31:55 PM
Super stuff from our lads. Delighted with the effort that went in and the way we were set up with a definite game plan which worked a treat. I am particularly delighted for Feargal flanagan about whom a lot of shit is written about him being a favourite of the manager and undeserving of his place - he was outstanding today and gave a big two fingers to his detractors. He also has college exams tomorrow - thats they level of commitment these lads give. We won by 4 and should have won by more. There is plenty we can work on and improve. But for now well done lads, you did Cavan proud as did the minors.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on May 20, 2013, 05:05:32 PM
Ryan McCluskey played the sweeper role well against Cavan in the League game. Martin Dunne was fairly quiet in that game from play, It will be interesting to see how Cavan deal with that. Fermanagh carry the ball well at good pace, hopefully more of the same from
Fergal Flanagan in the defensive half forward role. Shane McCabe is a very good player at centre forward, uses the ball very well and has great pace. Alan Clarke struggled against him I thought in the league game. Although it was tougher when Fermanagh had the extra man for long periods.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on May 20, 2013, 05:38:05 PM
Great win and delighted for the lads, i didn't know Armagh were so poor.

Big day in Brewster next so hopefully everyone stays fit and Mossy is back he is badly needed to help out in midfield.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on May 20, 2013, 06:02:09 PM
Fermanagh will be very tough, as much as I enjoyed the win yesterday Armagh were just awful. When it was so obvious that we could score at will up front it seemed like a forgegone conclusion. Had Cavan needed a goal was there any doubt that we could have got it?

Keating is immense, his physicality is just quality. He can and will outmuscle most players if he's left in an individual battle. I'd like to see him really press home that advantage and start going through players for goals. His selfishness for the goal is outweighed by the dirty work he did out the field in to the second half.

Similar to what Myles said about F. Flanagan, I think Niall McDermott's performance warrants a mention. He didn't make many people's expected line ups but he was quality yesterday. All in all a great team performance but we won't get away with kicking easy frees and shots wide v Fermanagh. The number of chances we will have will be much much smaller. As someone over on HS said, we need a high conversion rate free taker.

Who was the Number 13 in the Minor game? I thought he was top class, best Cavan player by a mile. Big Greg McGovern was excellent, Fortune was very good. Hopefully Ben Kiernan will get a bit more space v Fermanagh, his point was as good as any scored in Breffni yesterday.
I'd be worried about them though, we've seen what having a powerhouse in the FF line can do, it's why we won Ulster in 2011 with Finnegan and O'Donnell and it's why we were beaten by Donegal last year. We've gone for the light fast lads inside this year, hard to know if it will bring us far.
Also I heard today that at least 1 player was dropped from the Minor Panel on Friday night.. If so that is disgraceful from Gary Donohoe and Co. A lad trains all year, takes time away from his leaving cert studies, and doesn't even get to be with the team on the day of the game. 
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on May 20, 2013, 06:10:55 PM
N13 was Tom Hayes Cootehill, he was excellent last year in the Intermediate final drawn game and replay. He showed very well inside

Ryan Connolly was the pick of the players I thought at Centre forward
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on May 20, 2013, 06:45:40 PM
I was delighted with yesterday,One guy who wasn't mentioned i don;t think who started for Jack Brady,Killian the gunner,i thought put in an outstanding shift as did Fergak Flanagan.
Conor Gilsenans handling was top notch.Alan Clarke played the sweeper role to perfection in front of Clarke. Ronan Flanagan was a great outlet throughout and big James McEnroe had a stormer,Givney and Damien were outtstanding in general play,but Cavan did lose the aerial exchances at centre field,which will be a worry against Fermanagh,Killian Clarke made a difference though when he switched out in the second half. Niall McDermott as Westside said was outstanding as was Mackey. Keatings all round play was terrific,and while i feared the worst for Martin Dunne's confidence after he missed that easy free,he was simply brilliant afterwards. Martin Reily also made a big impact when he came on  and his ball carrying and distribution was top notch, As some of you have said however,Fermanagh will be a different kettle of fish, they will put 12/13 men behind the ball and ask questions off Cavan which we will have to answer. Delighted with the Minor win also.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: CC1 on May 20, 2013, 07:00:33 PM
Great display from our lads. We played with much more composure than previous years, we are gradually getting better. The lads that performed well had those performances in them and a special mention must go to Givney and Martin Reilly for their ball into Keating and Martin Dunne right through the game. Every pass was perfect for the forward. Every back was tenacious and cool on the ball apart from a ten minute spell in the second half. Half forwards worked like madmen too! Great to watch such hunger and heart from the boys in blue.

Armagh on the other hand reminded me of how we've played at times in this past decade. Very poor.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on May 20, 2013, 08:13:14 PM
Delighted with performance and result. Great to see Cavan so fit and hungry and finally beating one of the big names in Ulster. Thought McEnroe was brilliant but unfair to single anyone out. Early night for me to recover from this hangover.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on May 20, 2013, 08:43:50 PM
Killian Brady done alright, but has a habit of getting booked. He put in a very rash tackle in the first half yesterday and was on a booking for the rest of the game.

McEnroe is a quality footballer, playing great stuff with Ramor. He was a loss last year, - working in London
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on May 20, 2013, 09:26:21 PM
Fermanagh will be whole different ball game, as someone said they will have Dunne and Keating tightly marked with a sweeper or two for good measure. They will note we aren't spreading our scores around. They will be sticky and tight and nasty as hell, just like they were in the league game. They will also be mad for revenge after our ram-raid of Brewster last year.Terry will need a whole different game plan for that one and the boys will have to be ready for a war.
Saying that I think we have better footballers than Fermanagh, i just hope they don't out muscle us.

Saying that I don't think too many men are strong enough to hold Eugene and I think if he gets the auld boot calibrated before the game he will surely kick a few scores. If Keating is winning the dirty ball close to goal Dunne can still make hay.

I see the minors are down to play in Clones this weekend. If that Connolly lad upped his work rate a bit he would be an outstanding prospect, some of the points he kicked were unreal.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on May 20, 2013, 09:30:20 PM
Is the next game in Brewster Park or Clones?  Hearing different things.

So who are the players to watch out for in the Fermanagh team? 
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on May 20, 2013, 09:39:50 PM
The Senior game is in Brewster, 16th June. Strange that its going ahead with Enniskillen being more or less shut down in that period. key players would be Ryan McCluskey, Shane McCabe, Martin McGrath, Sean Quigley, missed the Cavan game with injury, and Ryan Jones, u21 player this year, Was part of the Ulster panel that won the Railway Cup this year. Tomas Corrigan is also a useful forward.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on May 20, 2013, 09:48:40 PM
Thanks.  The minor game is this weekend.  Is it not a bit close to the leaving cert? 
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on May 20, 2013, 09:53:45 PM
Quote from: Denn Forever on May 20, 2013, 09:48:40 PM
Thanks.  The minor game is this weekend.  Is it not a bit close to the leaving cert?

There are Under 16 club games next Wednesday with the Junior Cert starting one week later...
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on May 21, 2013, 08:18:18 PM
What do people reckon about the Fermanagh game? It's obvious we won't get scores as easily, probably never will again! But most of our scores on Sunday were within 25 metres of goal. That entire area will be saturated with Green Jerseys on the 16th. I think we might see a similar tactic to the U21s. Patient build up play, lots of movement and waiting for the right pass. That's why I think we'll see Jack Brady start against Fermanagh, he has better vision and awareness than any other player in the team, although Barry Reilly isn't far off. Keating also provides us with a long ball option when we are able to break fast down the field. The lads love Brewster and though it may be home for Fermanagh I'd rather the game there than in Clones.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on May 21, 2013, 08:33:11 PM
Quote from: Westside on May 21, 2013, 08:18:18 PM
What do people reckon about the Fermanagh game? It's obvious we won't get scores as easily, probably never will again! But most of our scores on Sunday were within 25 metres of goal. That entire area will be saturated with Green Jerseys on the 16th. I think we might see a similar tactic to the U21s. Patient build up play, lots of movement and waiting for the right pass. That's why I think we'll see Jack Brady start against Fermanagh, he has better vision and awareness than any other player in the team, although Barry Reilly isn't far off. Keating also provides us with a long ball option when we are able to break fast down the field. The lads love Brewster and though it may be home for Fermanagh I'd rather the game there than in Clones.

I agree. I think it will pan out like the U21 final this year. However, Fermanagh will try the exact same tactics back against us. It is key that we win midfield which means we need to work hard on kick outs as Gilsenans were a bit wild at times the last day (i put it down to nerves). Givney needs some ball winning help in there so I'd be surprised if Corr doesn't start if he can regain fitness. Dunne needs to stay close to goal and work across the line and work again and again to find the space. If he is patient he'll get his chance and he is well fit to kick 4/5 points from play against Fermanagh. This is a game made for Barry Reilly, his vision and passing are the best we have. Jacks work rate are probably better and Terry will likely go for him. We shall see.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: packiedevlin on May 21, 2013, 08:53:20 PM
Any idea where Podge was on Sunday? He wasnt named in the 26 and I didnt see him in the warm up either. Is he injured?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on May 21, 2013, 08:55:43 PM
Quote from: packiedevlin on May 21, 2013, 08:53:20 PM
Any idea where Podge was on Sunday? He wasnt named in the 26 and I didnt see him in the warm up either. Is he injured?

He seems to have been dropped off the panel, played for Ballinagh at the weekend.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on May 21, 2013, 08:57:10 PM
Quote from: packiedevlin on May 21, 2013, 08:53:20 PM
Any idea where Podge was on Sunday? He wasnt named in the 26 and I didnt see him in the warm up either. Is he injured?

He isn't injured, he was playing for Ballinagh last Friday against Lacken. He just didn't make the 26 man panel,his form wasn't hectic this year at Co Level
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mb80b60 on May 21, 2013, 09:08:02 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on May 21, 2013, 08:33:11 PM
Quote from: Westside on May 21, 2013, 08:18:18 PM
What do people reckon about the Fermanagh game? It's obvious we won't get scores as easily, probably never will again! But most of our scores on Sunday were within 25 metres of goal. That entire area will be saturated with Green Jerseys on the 16th. I think we might see a similar tactic to the U21s. Patient build up play, lots of movement and waiting for the right pass. That's why I think we'll see Jack Brady start against Fermanagh, he has better vision and awareness than any other player in the team, although Barry Reilly isn't far off. Keating also provides us with a long ball option when we are able to break fast down the field. The lads love Brewster and though it may be home for Fermanagh I'd rather the game there than in Clones.

I agree. I think it will pan out like the U21 final this year. However, Fermanagh will try the exact same tactics back against us. It is key that we win midfield which means we need to work hard on kick outs as Gilsenans were a bit wild at times the last day (i put it down to nerves). Givney needs some ball winning help in there so I'd be surprised if Corr doesn't start if he can regain fitness. Dunne needs to stay close to goal and work across the line and work again and again to find the space. If he is patient he'll get his chance and he is well fit to kick 4/5 points from play against Fermanagh. This is a game made for Barry Reilly, his vision and passing are the best we have. Jacks work rate are probably better and Terry will likely go for him. We shall see.

Fermanagh supporter here.  Dunne will do very well to score 4/5 from play against Fermanagh.  Any scores against us will come from 35m plus.  The game would actually suit Gearoid McK as he is someone with a good ability to kick scores from distance.

Someone else asked about our key players.... Woods is our main man-marker and will pick up Dunne.  Asides from that, the half back line will consist of anyone from 4/5 players.  McGrath will be key in midfield.  Tommy McElroy will line out at wing half forward but will funnel back and many attacks will build via his runs out of defence.  Shane McCabe will be the playmaker and will hopefully play accurate passes into a full forward line of Sean Quigley and Tomas Corrigan/Paul Ward.  If Quigley regains his pre-injury form, he will hurt yous from frees.  Neither team will fear the other, and I expect both teams to have very similar tactics in terms of men dropping back into defence.  Keating/Dunne will not have the space they were afforded on Sunday.  I'm sure it won't be pretty, but I do think it will be intriguing!

Will Cavan line out more or less as they did on Sunday?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on May 21, 2013, 09:10:26 PM
Quote from: mb80b60 on May 21, 2013, 09:08:02 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on May 21, 2013, 08:33:11 PM
Quote from: Westside on May 21, 2013, 08:18:18 PM
What do people reckon about the Fermanagh game? It's obvious we won't get scores as easily, probably never will again! But most of our scores on Sunday were within 25 metres of goal. That entire area will be saturated with Green Jerseys on the 16th. I think we might see a similar tactic to the U21s. Patient build up play, lots of movement and waiting for the right pass. That's why I think we'll see Jack Brady start against Fermanagh, he has better vision and awareness than any other player in the team, although Barry Reilly isn't far off. Keating also provides us with a long ball option when we are able to break fast down the field. The lads love Brewster and though it may be home for Fermanagh I'd rather the game there than in Clones.

I agree. I think it will pan out like the U21 final this year. However, Fermanagh will try the exact same tactics back against us. It is key that we win midfield which means we need to work hard on kick outs as Gilsenans were a bit wild at times the last day (i put it down to nerves). Givney needs some ball winning help in there so I'd be surprised if Corr doesn't start if he can regain fitness. Dunne needs to stay close to goal and work across the line and work again and again to find the space. If he is patient he'll get his chance and he is well fit to kick 4/5 points from play against Fermanagh. This is a game made for Barry Reilly, his vision and passing are the best we have. Jacks work rate are probably better and Terry will likely go for him. We shall see.

Fermanagh supporter here.  Dunne will do very well to score 4/5 from play against Fermanagh.  Any scores against us will come from 35m plus.  The game would actually suit Gearoid McK as he is someone with a good ability to kick scores from distance.

Someone else asked about our key players.... Woods is our main man-marker and will pick up Dunne.  Asides from that, the half back line will consist of anyone from 4/5 players.  McGrath will be key in midfield.  Tommy McElroy will line out at wing half forward but will funnel back and many attacks will build via his runs out of defence.  Shane McCabe will be the playmaker and will hopefully play accurate passes into a full forward line of Sean Quigley and Tomas Corrigan/Paul Ward.  If Quigley regains his pre-injury form, he will hurt yous from frees.  Neither team will fear the other, and I expect both teams to have very similar tactics in terms of men dropping back into defence.  Keating/Dunne will not have the space they were afforded on Sunday.  I'm sure it won't be pretty, but I do think it will be intriguing!

Will Cavan line out more or less as they did on Sunday?

Big Seamus was never recalled, or is he away , America? Sean is a younger brother of his I believe

Cavan will be pretty similar to what started, maybe Jack Brady coming in at half forward. No point making wholesale changes when its not needed.

The league encounter was feisty enough... expect more of the same down in Enniskillen
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mb80b60 on May 21, 2013, 09:55:35 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on May 21, 2013, 09:10:26 PM
Quote from: mb80b60 on May 21, 2013, 09:08:02 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on May 21, 2013, 08:33:11 PM
Quote from: Westside on May 21, 2013, 08:18:18 PM
What do people reckon about the Fermanagh game? It's obvious we won't get scores as easily, probably never will again! But most of our scores on Sunday were within 25 metres of goal. That entire area will be saturated with Green Jerseys on the 16th. I think we might see a similar tactic to the U21s. Patient build up play, lots of movement and waiting for the right pass. That's why I think we'll see Jack Brady start against Fermanagh, he has better vision and awareness than any other player in the team, although Barry Reilly isn't far off. Keating also provides us with a long ball option when we are able to break fast down the field. The lads love Brewster and though it may be home for Fermanagh I'd rather the game there than in Clones.



I agree. I think it will pan out like the U21 final this year. However, Fermanagh will try the exact same tactics back against us. It is key that we win midfield which means we need to work hard on kick outs as Gilsenans were a bit wild at times the last day (i put it down to nerves). Givney needs some ball winning help in there so I'd be surprised if Corr doesn't start if he can regain fitness. Dunne needs to stay close to goal and work across the line and work again and again to find the space. If he is patient he'll get his chance and he is well fit to kick 4/5 points from play against Fermanagh. This is a game made for Barry Reilly, his vision and passing are the best we have. Jacks work rate are probably better and Terry will likely go for him. We shall see.

Fermanagh supporter here.  Dunne will do very well to score 4/5 from play against Fermanagh.  Any scores against us will come from 35m plus.  The game would actually suit Gearoid McK as he is someone with a good ability to kick scores from distance.

Someone else asked about our key players.... Woods is our main man-marker and will pick up Dunne.  Asides from that, the half back line will consist of anyone from 4/5 players.  McGrath will be key in midfield.  Tommy McElroy will line out at wing half forward but will funnel back and many attacks will build via his runs out of defence.  Shane McCabe will be the playmaker and will hopefully play accurate passes into a full forward line of Sean Quigley and Tomas Corrigan/Paul Ward.  If Quigley regains his pre-injury form, he will hurt yous from frees.  Neither team will fear the other, and I expect both teams to have very similar tactics in terms of men dropping back into defence.  Keating/Dunne will not have the space they were afforded on Sunday.  I'm sure it won't be pretty, but I do think it will be intriguing!

Will Cavan line out more or less as they did on Sunday?

Big Seamus was never recalled, or is he away , America? Sean is a younger brother of his I believe

Cavan will be pretty similar to what started, maybe Jack Brady coming in at half forward. No point making wholesale changes when its not needed.

The league encounter was feisty enough... expect more of the same down in Enniskillen

It will be feisty surely.  There was a bit of needle in last year's championship encounter also.

No, big Seamus has not been recalled and to date he wasn't missed during the league.  Undoubted talent, but things didn't work out at county level last year and I'm sure Canavan won't be looking him to return now.  As far as I know he is at home and playing well for his club Roslea.  Sean is indeed his younger brother and he had started to look like a great option at full forward before his injury.  He should be fit for the Cavan game.  He isn't overly quick for a full forward, but he's strong and clever and very accurate from frees.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on May 21, 2013, 10:02:11 PM
Quote from: mb80b60 on May 21, 2013, 09:55:35 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on May 21, 2013, 09:10:26 PM
Quote from: mb80b60 on May 21, 2013, 09:08:02 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on May 21, 2013, 08:33:11 PM
Quote from: Westside on May 21, 2013, 08:18:18 PM
What do people reckon about the Fermanagh game? It's obvious we won't get scores as easily, probably never will again! But most of our scores on Sunday were within 25 metres of goal. That entire area will be saturated with Green Jerseys on the 16th. I think we might see a similar tactic to the U21s. Patient build up play, lots of movement and waiting for the right pass. That's why I think we'll see Jack Brady start against Fermanagh, he has better vision and awareness than any other player in the team, although Barry Reilly isn't far off. Keating also provides us with a long ball option when we are able to break fast down the field. The lads love Brewster and though it may be home for Fermanagh I'd rather the game there than in Clones.



I agree. I think it will pan out like the U21 final this year. However, Fermanagh will try the exact same tactics back against us. It is key that we win midfield which means we need to work hard on kick outs as Gilsenans were a bit wild at times the last day (i put it down to nerves). Givney needs some ball winning help in there so I'd be surprised if Corr doesn't start if he can regain fitness. Dunne needs to stay close to goal and work across the line and work again and again to find the space. If he is patient he'll get his chance and he is well fit to kick 4/5 points from play against Fermanagh. This is a game made for Barry Reilly, his vision and passing are the best we have. Jacks work rate are probably better and Terry will likely go for him. We shall see.

Fermanagh supporter here.  Dunne will do very well to score 4/5 from play against Fermanagh.  Any scores against us will come from 35m plus.  The game would actually suit Gearoid McK as he is someone with a good ability to kick scores from distance.

Someone else asked about our key players.... Woods is our main man-marker and will pick up Dunne.  Asides from that, the half back line will consist of anyone from 4/5 players.  McGrath will be key in midfield.  Tommy McElroy will line out at wing half forward but will funnel back and many attacks will build via his runs out of defence.  Shane McCabe will be the playmaker and will hopefully play accurate passes into a full forward line of Sean Quigley and Tomas Corrigan/Paul Ward.  If Quigley regains his pre-injury form, he will hurt yous from frees.  Neither team will fear the other, and I expect both teams to have very similar tactics in terms of men dropping back into defence.  Keating/Dunne will not have the space they were afforded on Sunday.  I'm sure it won't be pretty, but I do think it will be intriguing!

Will Cavan line out more or less as they did on Sunday?

Big Seamus was never recalled, or is he away , America? Sean is a younger brother of his I believe

Cavan will be pretty similar to what started, maybe Jack Brady coming in at half forward. No point making wholesale changes when its not needed.

The league encounter was feisty enough... expect more of the same down in Enniskillen

It will be feisty surely.  There was a bit of needle in last year's championship encounter also.

No, big Seamus has not been recalled and to date he wasn't missed during the league.  Undoubted talent, but things didn't work out at county level last year and I'm sure Canavan won't be looking him to return now.  As far as I know he is at home and playing well for his club Roslea.  Sean is indeed his younger brother and he had started to look like a great option at full forward before his injury.  He should be fit for the Cavan game.  He isn't overly quick for a full forward, but he's strong and clever and very accurate from frees.

Daryl Keenan is a good footballer too, I was impressed with him in the League game, he always plays well against Cavan

Do you think Barry Owens will make the team for the championship?, only came on in the League game ,and stamped his authority on the game.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mb80b60 on May 21, 2013, 11:06:13 PM
Yes my guess is that Owens will start and pick up Keating.

Daryl Keenan is a very good footballer and fits Canavan's system erectly.  He runs all day and sees a lot of ball.  He'll line out at corner forward but will defend around the half back line.  If the ball gets turned over he's a good carrier of the ball forward.  He is also a good finisher.  Probably underrated outside of Fermanagh, but one of the first names on the teamsheet for me.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on May 22, 2013, 10:51:14 AM
Forget to ask, how would you rate Fermanagh Minors? Had a few good decent performances in the Minor League this year apparently? Cavan grinded out a win against Armagh on Sunday, Ryan Connolly was the key player at centre forward..
Should be a good game against Fermanagh this Saturday in Clones 7pm.

Enniskilen will be fairly manic on the 16th of June with the G8 summit taking place. Thought it might have been switched to Clones, wouldn't have been in Breffni as Cavan couldn't have home advantage again.

On a different note, Cavan play Louth in the Leinster Junior Championship http://www.hoganstand.com/Cavan/ArticleForm.aspx?ID=192789
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on May 22, 2013, 11:15:48 AM
Quote from: rodney trotter on May 22, 2013, 10:51:14 AM
Forget to ask, how would you rate Fermanagh Minors? Had a few good decent performances in the Minor League this year apparently? Cavan grinded out a win against Armagh on Sunday, Ryan Connolly was the key player at centre forward..
Should be a good game against Fermanagh this Saturday in Clones 7pm.

Enniskilen will be fairly manic on the 16th of June with the G8 summit taking place. Thought it might have been switched to Clones, wouldn't have been in Breffni as Cavan couldn't have home advantage again.

On a different note, Cavan play Louth in the Leinster Junior Championship http://www.hoganstand.com/Cavan/ArticleForm.aspx?ID=192789

Minor game is Sunday at 7.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on May 22, 2013, 11:18:47 AM
Sunday my bad, they should have some momentum, with the game 1 week after the Armagh game.. due to the LC
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on May 22, 2013, 03:15:05 PM
QuoteEnniskilen will be fairly manic on the 16th of June with the G8 summit taking place. Thought it might have been switched to Clones, wouldn't have been in Breffni as Cavan couldn't have home advantage again.

Can you imagine if Obama wanted to come and watch the game?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on May 22, 2013, 06:39:54 PM
Quote from: Denn Forever on May 22, 2013, 03:15:05 PM
QuoteEnniskilen will be fairly manic on the 16th of June with the G8 summit taking place. Thought it might have been switched to Clones, wouldn't have been in Breffni as Cavan couldn't have home advantage again.

Can you imagine if Obama wanted to come and watch the game?

He would be a fool not too :) It should be played in Clones , without being stuck in a Circus, but what's done is done.

See a fella wrote a letter to Obama http://joe.ie/gaa/gaa-news/cavan-man-invites-barack-obama-to-ulster-quarter-final-v-fermanagh-but-will-he-pay-for-the-ticket-0038037-1
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on May 22, 2013, 10:00:58 PM
Gary Donohoe in the Celt today talking about last year's Minor Loss to Donegal "Typical of young lads, it just didn't happen on the day".. Right Gary, pass the buck, nothing to do with your leaving Conor Smith on that huge full forward from Donegal?? Dropping lads from the team 2 days before Championship after 8 months of training as well. A real role model. 
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on May 23, 2013, 08:47:21 AM
Jesus H Christ we have just beaten Armagh in the first round of the minor championship with a team that has been tipped to do nothing, closed the game out in extra time, how many times have we been on the wrong side of those outcomes in the last 10 years??? It looks like you have a personal issue with Gary Donohoe. As previously suggested, could you lay off him. That's the sort of craic you'd be ranting about if it was over on HS
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on May 23, 2013, 10:08:31 AM
Quote from: anglocelt39 on May 23, 2013, 08:47:21 AM
Jesus H Christ we have just beaten Armagh in the first round of the minor championship with a team that has been tipped to do nothing, closed the game out in extra time, how many times have we been on the wrong side of those outcomes in the last 10 years??? It looks like you have a personal issue with Gary Donohoe. As previously suggested, could you lay off him. That's the sort of craic you'd be ranting about if it was over on HS

+1
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Swadman on May 23, 2013, 03:21:33 PM
Quote from: tommysmith on May 23, 2013, 10:08:31 AM
Quote from: anglocelt39 on May 23, 2013, 08:47:21 AM
Jesus H Christ we have just beaten Armagh in the first round of the minor championship with a team that has been tipped to do nothing, closed the game out in extra time, how many times have we been on the wrong side of those outcomes in the last 10 years??? It looks like you have a personal issue with Gary Donohoe. As previously suggested, could you lay off him. That's the sort of craic you'd be ranting about if it was over on HS

+1

Sergio Garcia +1
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on May 23, 2013, 07:12:03 PM
Quote from: anglocelt39 on May 23, 2013, 08:47:21 AM
Jesus H Christ we have just beaten Armagh in the first round of the minor championship with a team that has been tipped to do nothing, closed the game out in extra time, how many times have we been on the wrong side of those outcomes in the last 10 years??? It looks like you have a personal issue with Gary Donohoe. As previously suggested, could you lay off him. That's the sort of craic you'd be ranting about if it was over on HS

I have no issue with him personally, I have never even met the man. I'm not making stuff up for the sake of having a dig, the two points I made are facts that I found out in the last 2 days and thought I'd share. All credit to him for the Minor victory though, at one stage I was certain it was going to be the same old story. But you're right, negative talk about him will reflect onto the team and that is the furthest thing from my intentions before the second round of the Championship. I'll leave it until another time.

Who were the 16 year olds on the team lads? I thought Greg McGovern was brilliant, he's obviously learned lots from playing with Gearoid. I doubt we have ever had a Midfielder so big at Minor Level. Where does Barry Fortune play for Cavan Gaels?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on May 24, 2013, 10:55:46 AM
In fairness to what westside said, a thread wanting DK removed as Cavan Senior manager after beating Antim in the first round isn't much different.http://gaaboard.com/board/index.php?topic=7394.0 For all his faults DK done a decent job with Cavan and his results were quite good. And some good football was played too

Cavan had a very poor minor league this year, and some players were let off the panel in bizzare fashion during the year, but fair play for grinding out the win against Armag. Armagh were the only side Cavan beat in the Minor league, and Cavan would have been hopeful of grinding out a win last Sunday
Some very good players on the Cavan Minor team

Fermanagh will be a  tough test, had a solid enough Minor league,and didn't take any bad beatings.

Best of luck to the Minors Sunday
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Babe Ruth 47 on May 24, 2013, 11:16:51 AM
Of that minor team I'm nearly sure David Brady and Darragh Gannon who came on are both 16. There are possibly others.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on May 24, 2013, 12:54:09 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on May 24, 2013, 10:55:46 AM

Cavan had a very poor minor league this year, and some players were let off the panel in bizzare fashion during the year.

Can you explain that Rodney i don't know much about this years minors.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on May 24, 2013, 01:32:39 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on May 24, 2013, 10:55:46 AM
In fairness to what westside said, a thread wanting DK removed as Cavan Senior manager after beating Antim in the first round isn't much different.http://gaaboard.com/board/index.php?topic=7394.0 For all his faults DK done a decent job with Cavan and his results were quite good. And some good football was played too

Cavan had a very poor minor league this year, and some players were let off the panel in bizzare fashion during the year, but fair play for grinding out the win against Armag. Armagh were the only side Cavan beat in the Minor league, and Cavan would have been hopeful of grinding out a win last Sunday
Some very good players on the Cavan Minor team

Fermanagh will be a  tough test, had a solid enough Minor league,and didn't take any bad beatings.

Best of luck to the Minors Sunday

That thread on Donal Keoghan was just about the only time everyone on this board were in agreement. Care to remind me what he achieved as a manager (apart from profits being up at the lock ins that is).
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on May 24, 2013, 01:58:08 PM
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Quote from: tommysmith on May 24, 2013, 12:54:09 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on May 24, 2013, 10:55:46 AM

Cavan had a very poor minor league this year, and some players were let off the panel in bizzare fashion during the year.

Can you explain that Rodney i don't know much about this years minors.

Few lads dropped who had been on the panel all year, westside had already mentioned it

Quote from: mylestheslasher on May 24, 2013, 01:32:39 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on May 24, 2013, 10:55:46 AM
In fairness to what westside said, a thread wanting DK removed as Cavan Senior manager after beating Antim in the first round isn't much different.http://gaaboard.com/board/index.php?topic=7394.0 For all his faults DK done a decent job with Cavan and his results were quite good. And some good football was played too

Cavan had a very poor minor league this year, and some players were let off the panel in bizzare fashion during the year, but fair play for grinding out the win against Armag. Armagh were the only side Cavan beat in the Minor league, and Cavan would have been hopeful of grinding out a win last Sunday
Some very good players on the Cavan Minor team

Fermanagh will be a  tough test, had a solid enough Minor league,and didn't take any bad beatings.

Best of luck to the Minors Sunday

That thread on Donal Keoghan was just about the only time everyone on this board were in agreement. Care to remind me what he achieved as a manager (apart from profits being up at the lock ins that is).

What did Tommy Carr achieve or Val Andrews?

Keoghans final game was 1pt defeat in Newbridge, a game which Cavan deserved to win. James Kavanagh got a late goal. They had some good performances in div2 although they got relegated, beat Cork, decent display against Dublin and against Meath in Navan
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on May 24, 2013, 02:05:53 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on May 24, 2013, 01:58:08 PM
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Quote from: tommysmith on May 24, 2013, 12:54:09 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on May 24, 2013, 10:55:46 AM

Cavan had a very poor minor league this year, and some players were let off the panel in bizzare fashion during the year.

Can you explain that Rodney i don't know much about this years minors.

Few lads dropped who had been on the panel all year, westside had already mentioned it

Quote from: mylestheslasher on May 24, 2013, 01:32:39 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on May 24, 2013, 10:55:46 AM
In fairness to what westside said, a thread wanting DK removed as Cavan Senior manager after beating Antim in the first round isn't much different.http://gaaboard.com/board/index.php?topic=7394.0 For all his faults DK done a decent job with Cavan and his results were quite good. And some good football was played too

Cavan had a very poor minor league this year, and some players were let off the panel in bizzare fashion during the year, but fair play for grinding out the win against Armag. Armagh were the only side Cavan beat in the Minor league, and Cavan would have been hopeful of grinding out a win last Sunday
Some very good players on the Cavan Minor team

Fermanagh will be a  tough test, had a solid enough Minor league,and didn't take any bad beatings.

Best of luck to the Minors Sunday

That thread on Donal Keoghan was just about the only time everyone on this board were in agreement. Care to remind me what he achieved as a manager (apart from profits being up at the lock ins that is).

What did Tommy Carr achieve or Val Andrews?


What have they got to do with Donal Keoghan ?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on May 24, 2013, 02:19:15 PM
Quote from: tommysmith on May 24, 2013, 02:05:53 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on May 24, 2013, 01:58:08 PM
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Quote from: tommysmith on May 24, 2013, 12:54:09 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on May 24, 2013, 10:55:46 AM

Cavan had a very poor minor league this year, and some players were let off the panel in bizzare fashion during the year.

Can you explain that Rodney i don't know much about this years minors.

Few lads dropped who had been on the panel all year, westside had already mentioned it

Quote from: mylestheslasher on May 24, 2013, 01:32:39 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on May 24, 2013, 10:55:46 AM
In fairness to what westside said, a thread wanting DK removed as Cavan Senior manager after beating Antim in the first round isn't much different.http://gaaboard.com/board/index.php?topic=7394.0 For all his faults DK done a decent job with Cavan and his results were quite good. And some good football was played too

Cavan had a very poor minor league this year, and some players were let off the panel in bizzare fashion during the year, but fair play for grinding out the win against Armag. Armagh were the only side Cavan beat in the Minor league, and Cavan would have been hopeful of grinding out a win last Sunday
Some very good players on the Cavan Minor team

Fermanagh will be a  tough test, had a solid enough Minor league,and didn't take any bad beatings.

Best of luck to the Minors Sunday

That thread on Donal Keoghan was just about the only time everyone on this board were in agreement. Care to remind me what he achieved as a manager (apart from profits being up at the lock ins that is).

What did Tommy Carr achieve or Val Andrews?


What have they got to do with Donal Keoghan ?

Eh, let me think. They have been Cavan managers since Keoghan left. Comparing what they achieved to keogan You would sware there was a drastic improvement once Keoghan left. Cavan weren't that bad under Keoghan

Under Terry we are making good progress.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on May 24, 2013, 02:31:20 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on May 24, 2013, 02:19:15 PM
Quote from: tommysmith on May 24, 2013, 02:05:53 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on May 24, 2013, 01:58:08 PM
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Quote from: tommysmith on May 24, 2013, 12:54:09 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on May 24, 2013, 10:55:46 AM

Cavan had a very poor minor league this year, and some players were let off the panel in bizzare fashion during the year.

Can you explain that Rodney i don't know much about this years minors.

Few lads dropped who had been on the panel all year, westside had already mentioned it

Quote from: mylestheslasher on May 24, 2013, 01:32:39 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on May 24, 2013, 10:55:46 AM
In fairness to what westside said, a thread wanting DK removed as Cavan Senior manager after beating Antim in the first round isn't much different.http://gaaboard.com/board/index.php?topic=7394.0 For all his faults DK done a decent job with Cavan and his results were quite good. And some good football was played too

Cavan had a very poor minor league this year, and some players were let off the panel in bizzare fashion during the year, but fair play for grinding out the win against Armag. Armagh were the only side Cavan beat in the Minor league, and Cavan would have been hopeful of grinding out a win last Sunday
Some very good players on the Cavan Minor team

Fermanagh will be a  tough test, had a solid enough Minor league,and didn't take any bad beatings.

Best of luck to the Minors Sunday

That thread on Donal Keoghan was just about the only time everyone on this board were in agreement. Care to remind me what he achieved as a manager (apart from profits being up at the lock ins that is).

What did Tommy Carr achieve or Val Andrews?


What have they got to do with Donal Keoghan ?

Eh, let me think. They have been Cavan managers since Keoghan left. Comparing what they achieved to keogan You would sware there was a drastic improvement once Keoghan left. Cavan weren't that bad under Keoghan

Under Terry we are making good progress.

What i should have said is what has any of this to do with Gary Donohoe?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on May 24, 2013, 02:44:43 PM
Quote from: tommysmith on May 24, 2013, 02:31:20 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on May 24, 2013, 02:19:15 PM
Quote from: tommysmith on May 24, 2013, 02:05:53 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on May 24, 2013, 01:58:08 PM
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Quote from: tommysmith on May 24, 2013, 12:54:09 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on May 24, 2013, 10:55:46 AM

Cavan had a very poor minor league this year, and some players were let off the panel in bizzare fashion during the year.

Can you explain that Rodney i don't know much about this years minors.

Few lads dropped who had been on the panel all year, westside had already mentioned it

Quote from: mylestheslasher on May 24, 2013, 01:32:39 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on May 24, 2013, 10:55:46 AM
In fairness to what westside said, a thread wanting DK removed as Cavan Senior manager after beating Antim in the first round isn't much different.http://gaaboard.com/board/index.php?topic=7394.0 For all his faults DK done a decent job with Cavan and his results were quite good. And some good football was played too

Cavan had a very poor minor league this year, and some players were let off the panel in bizzare fashion during the year, but fair play for grinding out the win against Armag. Armagh were the only side Cavan beat in the Minor league, and Cavan would have been hopeful of grinding out a win last Sunday
Some very good players on the Cavan Minor team

Fermanagh will be a  tough test, had a solid enough Minor league,and didn't take any bad beatings.

Best of luck to the Minors Sunday

That thread on Donal Keoghan was just about the only time everyone on this board were in agreement. Care to remind me what he achieved as a manager (apart from profits being up at the lock ins that is).

What did Tommy Carr achieve or Val Andrews?


What have they got to do with Donal Keoghan ?

Eh, let me think. They have been Cavan managers since Keoghan left. Comparing what they achieved to keogan You would sware there was a drastic improvement once Keoghan left. Cavan weren't that bad under Keoghan

Under Terry we are making good progress.

What i should have said is what has any of this to do with Gary Donohoe?

What I'm saying , Keoghans record wasn't that bad. And people still had it in for him (forget about the drinking) he got Cavan to a league semi aswell against Ross in Croke Park
A few negative things were said about Gary Donahoe and ppl are lambasted. But good luck to the Minors, have nothing against him myself - Gary Donahoe
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on May 24, 2013, 03:03:01 PM
You could at least learn how to spell the mans name right - Gary Donohoe.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on May 24, 2013, 03:43:02 PM
Resorting to spelling corrections Tommy?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on May 24, 2013, 03:46:41 PM
Quote from: Westside on May 24, 2013, 03:43:02 PM
Resorting to spelling corrections Tommy?

Yeah i told him the correct spelling.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: CC1 on May 24, 2013, 04:22:06 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on May 24, 2013, 01:58:08 PM
What did Tommy Carr achieve or Val Andrews?
Andrews did get Cavan to an Ulster final in 01 and I thought they were unfortunate not to win that day.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on May 24, 2013, 08:58:18 PM
Quote from: tommysmith on May 24, 2013, 03:03:01 PM
You could at least learn how to spell the mans name right - Gary Donohoe.

Sorry pet :-*
And you could also do  stop make up shite about Terry Hyland
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on May 24, 2013, 09:50:02 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on May 24, 2013, 08:58:18 PM
Quote from: tommysmith on May 24, 2013, 03:03:01 PM
You could at least learn how to spell the mans name right - Gary Donohoe.

Sorry pet :-*
And you could also do  stop make up shite about Terry Hyland

Exactly, what I said was grounded in quote and fact. Not pulling conclusions out of my arxe.

Hopefully the lads will be motivated by the fact that Grimley actually published an apology to Armagh Supporters for the loss to Cavan. Fermanagh will be much tougher but if we can grind out another win it would go some way to showing that we are not a team that you need an excuse to be beaten by.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on May 24, 2013, 09:56:54 PM
Grimley really is a tool. I find all this crap about him and his tactics offensive to Cavan. Hopefully they will use it as motivation for the next.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on May 25, 2013, 09:49:04 AM
Quote from: rodney trotter on May 24, 2013, 08:58:18 PM
Quote from: tommysmith on May 24, 2013, 03:03:01 PM
You could at least learn how to spell the mans name right - Gary Donohoe.

Sorry pet :-*
And you could also do  stop make up shite about Terry Hyland

Over a week since i said anything about him, how is that relevant to our discussion yesterday?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on May 25, 2013, 10:39:02 AM
Quote from: tommysmith on May 25, 2013, 09:49:04 AM
Quote from: rodney trotter on May 24, 2013, 08:58:18 PM
Quote from: tommysmith on May 24, 2013, 03:03:01 PM
You could at least learn how to spell the mans name right - Gary Donohoe.

Sorry pet :-*
And you could also do  stop make up shite about Terry Hyland

Over a week since i said anything about him, how is that relevant to our discussion yesterday?

Its all relevant Tommy, he out current Senior manager. Over a week and keep it that way, spreading shite, the Celt even mentioned about ppl making up false rumours about TH
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on May 25, 2013, 11:02:05 AM
Quote from: rodney trotter on May 25, 2013, 10:39:02 AM
Quote from: tommysmith on May 25, 2013, 09:49:04 AM
Quote from: rodney trotter on May 24, 2013, 08:58:18 PM
Quote from: tommysmith on May 24, 2013, 03:03:01 PM
You could at least learn how to spell the mans name right - Gary Donohoe.

Sorry pet :-*
And you could also do  stop make up shite about Terry Hyland

Over a week since i said anything about him, how is that relevant to our discussion yesterday?

Its all relevant Tommy, he out current Senior manager. Over a week and keep it that way, spreading shite, the Celt even mentioned about ppl making up false rumours about TH

It had nothing to do with what with were talking about so then it was not relevant.

If you are that bothered about it why did you decided to bring it up one week later.  If even the Celt mentioned it it must be false.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on May 25, 2013, 11:44:21 AM
Quote from: tommysmith on May 25, 2013, 11:02:05 AM
Quote from: rodney trotter on May 25, 2013, 10:39:02 AM
Quote from: tommysmith on May 25, 2013, 09:49:04 AM
Quote from: rodney trotter on May 24, 2013, 08:58:18 PM
Quote from: tommysmith on May 24, 2013, 03:03:01 PM
You could at least learn how to spell the mans name right - Gary Donohoe.

Sorry pet :-*
And you could also do  stop make up shite about Terry Hyland

Over a week since i said anything about him, how is that relevant to our discussion yesterday?

Its all relevant Tommy, he out current Senior manager. Over a week and keep it that way, spreading shite, the Celt even mentioned about ppl making up false rumours about TH

It had nothing to do with what with were talking about so then it was not relevant.

If you are that bothered about it why did you decided to bring it up one week later.  If even the Celt mentioned it it must be false.

You're right I should have mentioned it earlier, Maybe you will make up more untrue stuff in the build up to the Fermanagh game, fire away.


The Celt would more about Terry Hyland then you do

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Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on May 25, 2013, 12:15:27 PM
And you would know even more  :-*
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on May 25, 2013, 12:31:48 PM
The amount of bitching going on here would give the Rose of Tralee contestants dressing room a run for it's money ::)

Progress continues anyway at all levels which is a great credit to a lot of hard working people. I think the Leinster Junior thing has been positive in bringing lads through, bringing injured lads back and keeping lads involved in general and we should have a good panel to pick from again this year. I really hope that they might use it to put it up to a few blokes who have been involved in senior panels in the past and might have a bit to offer again next year if they can make the committment. There are any number of blokes around the place, Dermot Sheridan and Ray Cullivan are just two names that spring to mind.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on May 25, 2013, 12:47:50 PM
Quote from: tommysmith on May 25, 2013, 12:15:27 PM
And you would know even more  :-*

More then you pal, ??? fellow club man after all, Which club are you from again?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on May 25, 2013, 01:10:30 PM
Quote from: anglocelt39 on May 25, 2013, 12:31:48 PM
The amount of bitching going on here would give the Rose of Tralee contestants dressing room a run for it's money ::)

Progress continues anyway at all levels which is a great credit to a lot of hard working people. I think the Leinster Junior thing has been positive in bringing lads through, bringing injured lads back and keeping lads involved in general and we should have a good panel to pick from again this year. I really hope that they might use it to put it up to a few blokes who have been involved in senior panels in the past and might have a bit to offer again next year if they can make the committment. There are any number of blokes around the place, Dermot Sheridan and Ray Cullivan are just two names that spring to mind.

Think that is a good idea. Some talented players have been got rid off (probably coz they lacked in commitment). Get them involved in the junior championship and mix them up with some of u21s from the last fee years that didn't make this years panel. It would be great to see Lyng, Jaws from ballinagh, Martin Cahill and some others in blue again.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on May 25, 2013, 01:30:00 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on May 25, 2013, 12:47:50 PM
Quote from: tommysmith on May 25, 2013, 12:15:27 PM
And you would know even more  :-*

More then you pal, ??? fellow club man after all, Which club are you from again?

Well i would no more than to start yapping about keoghan when lads are talking about Gary Donohoe.

My position would be compromised if i said my club with my work with county board.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on May 25, 2013, 01:30:39 PM
Dane o Dowd, Gavin Duffy, McInerney and Podge from the Nagh, Anton Reilly, there's any amount of fellas that were tried out and no longer involved. Probably safe to say most have had their day but if we were to get even two extra to come into the National League Panel next year it would be a bit more progress. Theres a few lads from the various Under 21 Panels that will be lost due to the economic situation if it keeps up the way it has been. Ross Sheridan from Killygarry is another lad that deserves a bit of attention. Would draw the line at the other Nagh bloke you mentioned.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on May 25, 2013, 01:46:18 PM
Is there no hope jaws might learn, finally, to control himself given the nation wide attention he is getting for this biting incident. Maybe use the junior team as his very last chance. Its a shame such a talented footballer wasted his talent.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on May 25, 2013, 03:53:44 PM
Nevermind "Jaws", Anton Reily is the one whom i would most be interested in seeing brought back in,When he was trialed in the McKenna cup,it was always as a half forward,He is a natural midfielder,and has perhaps been the best performing midfielder in the Senior grade over the last year and a half. Anytime i have seen him,, he has been outstanding.
He is still only 26/27,so he has plenty to offer.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on May 25, 2013, 04:28:48 PM
Agree with Bhm, Anton Reilly is a very good player, Brilliant fielder and can kick a score. he is 27. Would have been on the same Minor u21 team as Alan Clarke.

wouldn't have "jaws" near the team. He hasn't played since that incident. He is not near the player he was either

Podge can't play Junior, played Senior last year
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on May 25, 2013, 11:11:37 PM
Are the Celt blogging the minor match tomorrow?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on May 26, 2013, 11:31:17 AM
Interview with Alan O'Mara in todays Indo speaking about him dealing with depression. Fair play to him, first I knew about it http://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-football/cavan-ace-speaks-out-on-battle-with-depression-29297291.html
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on May 26, 2013, 08:37:24 PM
Congrats to the Minors for grinding out a 1 point victory v Fermanagh. I didn't make the game but sounds like Ben Kiernan and Tom Hayes played well for Cavan. Monaghan hammered Antrim in the other QF racking up 4-20. They hammered us in Breffni in the League to so that will be a huge challenge for Gary and the lads. Win that and you're guaranteed 2 more games and a place in the AIQF at the very least.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on May 26, 2013, 09:08:15 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on May 26, 2013, 11:31:17 AM
Interview with Alan O'Mara in todays Indo speaking about him dealing with depression. Fair play to him, first I knew about it http://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-football/cavan-ace-speaks-out-on-battle-with-depression-29297291.html

Whats on the indo website is just a summary, the whole article is on www.gaa.ie.
I don't know whether Alan would ever take a peak in here but if he does I would just like to say that it is an inspirational thing he has done today and is just as seismic as Donal Og Cusacks coming out. It shows that depression strikes everywhere and anywhere regardless of class, creed or class (or sport).
I would also like to say that I, and I am sure all Cavan supporters, are very proud of what Alan and the more recent u21 teams have done. They have brought happiness back to the supporters where we were totally in the doldrums. So i say thank you and well done and hope to see you back in a cavan jersey soon.

Also a big well done to our minors today. Another gutsy win by one point showing a certain level of mental strength. Can we overcome Monaghan, who knows, the hammering  they gave Antrim is not of much use to them.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on May 26, 2013, 11:15:34 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on May 26, 2013, 09:08:15 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on May 26, 2013, 11:31:17 AM
Interview with Alan O'Mara in todays Indo speaking about him dealing with depression. Fair play to him, first I knew about it http://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-football/cavan-ace-speaks-out-on-battle-with-depression-29297291.html

Whats on the indo website is just a summary, the whole article is on www.gaa.ie.
I don't know whether Alan would ever take a peak in here but if he does I would just like to say that it is an inspirational thing he has done today and is just as seismic as Donal Og Cusacks coming out. It shows that depression strikes everywhere and anywhere regardless of class, creed or class (or sport).
I would also like to say that I, and I am sure all Cavan supporters, are very proud of what Alan and the more recent u21 teams have done. They have brought happiness back to the supporters where we were totally in the doldrums. So i say thank you and well done and hope to see you back in a cavan jersey soon.

Also a big well done to our minors today. Another gutsy win by one point showing a certain level of mental strength. Can we overcome Monaghan, who knows, the hammering  they gave Antrim is not of much use to them.

Yeah I have the paper(indo) where the full article is, just stuck up the link incase anyone didn't hear about it

Well done o the Minors. Monaghan in the Semi's. They beat Cavan well in the Minor League, and won out the Minor League, although Cavan were missing a few players in that game,
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on May 27, 2013, 09:00:16 PM
I'll echo what the lads before me said. It's certainly not easy to admit any sort of mental health issues. To be a 22 year old county footballer and come out with such honesty about it is admirable, shows a lot of confidence and bravery. This sort of openness, especially from popular, successful well adjusted figures, helps dispel the fear that's out there surrounding talking about mental health issues. Well done Alan. Hopefully more will follow suit.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on May 29, 2013, 12:51:37 PM
Decent enough Junior team for the match against Louth tonight. Average age of the team is 23. Hopefully Ross Sheridan can continue his DIT sigerson form, been playing well with Killygarry too.
Big chance for Barry Reilly to be in the frame for the Fermanagh game with a decent showing. other players like
Oisin O Connell , Michael Brady, David Hyland,Niall Reilly have a chance to impress, been with the Senior panel since the McKenna Cup but haven't seen much action . Good full back line with Mooney and Oisin Minagh
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on May 29, 2013, 12:57:57 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on May 29, 2013, 12:51:37 PM
. Good full back line with Mooney and Oisin Minagh

I think the jury would be out on that one.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on May 29, 2013, 08:54:47 PM
Our juniors beat Louth 1-10 to 1-9.

Great to see us win another tight one.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on May 29, 2013, 09:01:33 PM
Good win for the Juniors in Dundalk, playing Longford in the next round.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on May 29, 2013, 09:08:46 PM
It's a pity that this will probably be the last year of that competition its good for giving lads at edge of senior panel games.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on May 29, 2013, 09:11:57 PM
Didn't realise it was been done away with. Is that decision made?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on May 29, 2013, 09:14:48 PM
Quote from: Itchy on May 29, 2013, 09:11:57 PM
Didn't realise it was been done away with. Is that decision made?

It's not made yet but Croke Park are talking of pulling it as only something like 9 counties entered it this year.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on May 29, 2013, 09:21:06 PM
Only 3teams entered in Connacht this year, meaning Ross I think, were straight into the final. Pity it isn't taken more serious, but when the interest isn't there, f all can be done to solve it. Its been a great benefit for Cavan. Playing in Leinster since 08.

There was more then 9 counties over all though playing Junior this year
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on May 29, 2013, 09:26:32 PM
Think only 2 were in Connacht. Sligo beat Mayo in the final.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Western Blue on May 30, 2013, 02:30:38 PM
Was told this morning that the Mayo team are playing Cavan next Monday at 1.30pm in Ballina in a challenge match. Most likely on the Ballina Stephenites pitch. I wonder is the squad in Belmullet for the weekend as our County Chairman is from there. Fingers crossed no injuries from the match.  Should be interesting watching the O'Shea's brothers against David Giveny and A.N.Other? Will keep you all posted after the match.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on May 30, 2013, 07:48:07 PM
Quote from: Western Blue on May 30, 2013, 02:30:38 PM
Was told this morning that the Mayo team are playing Cavan next Monday at 1.30pm in Ballina in a challenge match. Most likely on the Ballina Stephenites pitch. I wonder is the squad in Belmullet for the weekend as our County Chairman is from there. Fingers crossed no injuries from the match.  Should be interesting watching the O'Shea's brothers against David Giveny and A.N.Other? Will keep you all posted after the match.

Game is definitely at the Stephenites as it is their official opening of the pitch. Fine pitch it is too, put down by Prunty I believe. Will pop over for a look myself.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on May 30, 2013, 07:50:28 PM
Well done to the Junior team, match report from the Celt. I'd really like to see Barry Reilly get some game time against Fermanagh...

http://www.anglocelt.ie/sport/gaelicfootball/articles/2013/05/30/4016100-juniors-record-gutsy-win-over-louth/


Cavan juniors recorded a gutsy win over Louth at a bright and blustery Dowdallshill last evening (Wednesday) to book their place in the last four of the Leinster JFC for the fourth successive year.

Cavan goaled after ten seconds through Chris Conroy and, with the aid of the wind, were the better side in the first half, after which they led by 1-3 to 0-4, David Hyland, Niall Murray and Conroy again providing the points.

Conor Madden had won a lot of possession in the opening half but struggled to make an impact on the scoreboard, although his distribution was impressive.

Facing into a low sun and the breeze, Cavan struggled for periods in the second half. Turloc Mooney lost the ball in the sun and Louth pounced for a well-taken goal from Cathal Bellew to turn the game on its head.

Cavan made some changes, with Mooney going off, Oisin Minagh to full-back and Paul Graham coming into the attack and along with the introduction of Michael Argue, this helped shore things up.

With Dara McVeety having an outstanding match, Cavan hung on throughout the third quarter and after points from Barry Reilly – who nailed a 45 and a free-kick from 50 metres – Cavan stayed in touch.

The visitors' use of possession was exemplary as they played "keep-ball" in the closing stages, Ross Sheridan getting on the end of a move to make it 1-10 to 1-8.

Louth had the final score from James Califf but Cavan held possession for a full two minutes in injury time before ref Garryowen McMahon blew it up in the 75th minute.

Among those to impress were McVeety, Minagh and Niall O'Reilly, while Barry Reilly and sub Graham also caught the eye at times.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on May 31, 2013, 01:33:53 PM
Mossy Corr doesn't seem to be making progress on the hamstring injury which he has had for the past 4/5 weeks. Didn't play against Lacken last Sunday or against Ballinagh last night.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on May 31, 2013, 02:01:52 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on May 31, 2013, 01:33:53 PM
Mossy Corr doesn't seem to be making progress on the hamstring injury which he has had for the past 4/5 weeks. Didn't play against Lacken last Sunday or against Ballinagh last night.

Thats not good i would imagine Terry would want him to be getting some matches if he was fit.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on June 01, 2013, 08:52:08 AM
Quote from: rodney trotter on May 31, 2013, 01:33:53 PM
Mossy Corr doesn't seem to be making progress on the hamstring injury which he has had for the past 4/5 weeks. Didn't play against Lacken last Sunday or against Ballinagh last night.

He'd want to be making an appearance against Mayo on Monday to have any chance of being selected for the Fermanagh game.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on June 01, 2013, 09:47:45 AM
Goes to show how far Mossy has come on in the past couple of years that we are so keen to see him back..
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on June 01, 2013, 12:15:17 PM
That is true Westside. Also what has changed is the notion that a midfielder should be judged on how much fielding he does on kick outs. That is becoming a smaller and smaller part of the game. Its all about running, working, putting in the hits etc. Corr is a hardy boy and his physical presence would be a big help against Fermanagh.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on June 01, 2013, 12:41:42 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZH2Ru5FLOdo

Mossy taking a savage hit here at 1:30 and powering one over. Also looking back on this, note Gearoid slapping the Fermanagh man on the arse after Keating's goal... Excellent stuff. We really got out of jail that day though, Jack had a great game, don't think we'll be scoring 3 goals on the 16th.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on June 03, 2013, 02:43:51 PM
Cavan playing Mayo in a challenge match in Ballina at the moment. Were winning by 3 at halftime and have an entirely new 15 for the second half. Have conceded 3 goals in the second half and it's now 4-07 to 12 points. Mackey flying apparently.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on June 03, 2013, 04:15:03 PM
Just back from the game today. Lost 5-13 to 0-16 or something like that. We were 0-10 to 1-5 up at half time. Completely changed the team in the 2nd half. Hard to make out the teams from where I was behind the goals but O O Meara was in goal in 1st half and had great short clever kicks. Millar came on in 2nd half and was the opposite, no longer close to 1st choice in my opinion. Mcloughlin was excellent in 1st half as were Mackey and M Reilly.

Tierney won a lot of ball. 2nd half our tempo dropped big time and Mayo ate us in midfield which was mainly due to us weakening the spine of the team and Millars terrible kick outs. Givney looked knackered and Keating too often making wrong decisions. Work rate in 2nd half was 20% lower than first. Best in the 2nd were N McDermott & Barry Reilly.5  Mayo were full strength and only made a few changes in the 2nd half. Cavan missed 5 great goal chances. M Dunne blazed wide when easier to score. R Dunne smashed the bar as did N McDermott. Keating and McDermott again had great shots saved by the keeper. I've listed teams below, I couldnt make out all the players, especially in the 2nd half as they were too far away from me.

1st half
O Meara
McLoughlin
Dunne
Tighe
McEnroe
A Clarke
F Flanagan
D McKiernan
????
M Reilly
J Brady
R Flanagan
Tierney
Dunne

2nd Half
Millar
K Clarke
???
???
Meehan
Podge
McCutcheon
D Reilly
Murray
B Reilly
M McKeever
N McDermott
Givney
Keating

Tough call between Jack and N McDermott for the 40. Midfield its hard to tell, strange that Givney didnt play there only for 5 mins today. McCutcheon did nothing in there and neither did D Reilly. Decland McKiernan did play well and might get a chance in there. FB line has to be clarke, Dunne and McLoughlin although again Clarke caught out under a high ball. Half back line will be the same as Armagh. Can't see any other big changes.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on June 03, 2013, 05:26:27 PM
They must have been doing grand to be leading at half time against a full Mayo side. Changing the entire team at half team was always going to be tough, as Mayo kept the same 15 until well into the second half apparently.

Don't think McDermott is suited for the 40 myself. Inside is his best position.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Western Blue on June 03, 2013, 06:26:22 PM
Agree with Myles's report on the game, certainly in the 1st half  we were tearing through the Mayo defense and should have 5 or 6 points up at half time. Our movement/tackling/winning dirty ball was very good and surprised a lot of Mayo supporters with that first half performance.  Jason McLoughlin had a very good game on Andy Moran and also Rory Dunne looked comfortable at full back. I think Mark Leddy played in midfield with Declan McKiernan against Aidan O'Shea and Jason Gibbons. Leddy and McKiernan were good in the loose but . caught no ball against O'Shea.
Mackey was excellent and Jack Brady was very prominent .Martin Dunne marked tightly . missed one free and should have scored an easy goal chance.
2nd half Mayo got a soft goal after Andy Moran out jumped our full back after 1 minute with the 2nd team on duty. Match over. James Reilly kicking the ball everywhere but to a Cavan man! 3rd choice keeper. Barry Reilly not strong enough and not fit in my opinion for a fast running game. John McCutchson is not fit/mobile as yet. It was obvious that the full back line for the 2nd half was never going to be good enough with the result Mayo walked in 3 more goals.  Looking back we had 3/4 really good chances for goals. Overall a good work out  No injuries to report
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on June 03, 2013, 07:01:10 PM
Where was Gilsenan today so? and no Corr I see which must mean he's out for Fermanagh. O Mara is a more intelligent keeper with much more accurate kicks. However, unless Gilsenan is injured I would guess he'll keep his place.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Western Blue on June 03, 2013, 07:59:29 PM
In the 2nd half in Ballina Josh Hayes and Damien Barkey played   in the defense.  David Giveny was obliviously told to keep away from mid field and Aidan O'Shea and played with the lively Eugene Keating in a full forward line.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on June 03, 2013, 08:09:13 PM
Thanks to Western Blue for filling in the blanks, so the teams we played were.

1st half
O Meara
McLoughlin
Dunne
Tighe
McEnroe
A Clarke
F Flanagan
D McKiernan
Leddy
M Reilly
J Brady
R Flanagan
Tierney
Dunne

2nd Half
Millar
Barkey
K Clarke
Hayes
Meehan
Podge
McCutcheon
D Reilly
Murray
B Reilly
M McKeever
N McDermott
Givney
Keating
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on June 04, 2013, 01:58:35 PM
Someone asked earlier if the Cavan game was on tv.  From drici thread on  main board.

http://gaaboard.com/board/index.php?topic=19062.msg1239928#new

June 16th Cavan v Fermanagh 2-00pm   Mayo v Roscommon 4-00pm.  I assume its on RTE and BBC.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on June 04, 2013, 07:14:21 PM
Yet missing Mackey of the first half team, twitter folk say he was our best player.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on June 05, 2013, 10:52:17 PM
Heard a whisper this evening that Greg McGovern broke his foot while playing for Swad at the weekend. Would be a massive blow to the Minors if so, he's been excellent for us this year and they're already up against it v Monaghan. Swadman might be able to confirm or deny?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dougal on June 06, 2013, 09:36:21 AM
i forgot to mention that westside. i saw him in town on saturday with the crutches.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on June 06, 2013, 05:57:47 PM
From HS.  I wonder when the definitive answer will be known?

Cavan supporters are concerned about the travel arrangements on the day of the game, but the county board is to meet this Thursday night to discuss the matter.

The Ulster council, Fermanagh county board and Enniskillen Gaels along with the Cavan board have been meeting to discuss the best alternatives for travelling supporters.

Cavan fans are expected to asked to travel in via the A4 (Newtownbutler road) on the day of the game.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on June 07, 2013, 02:20:53 PM

I will be heading to the terrace Sunday week.


JOHN VESEY STAND  Ticket only
Adult                              £20/€25
OAP                               £12/€15
U-16                                £5/€5

EASTERN STAND  (can pay on the day)
Adult                              £20/€25
OAP                               £12/€15
U-16                               Free of charge

TERRACE                (can pay on the day)
Adult                             £12/€15
OAP/Student                 £9/€10
U-16                              Free of charge
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on June 07, 2013, 02:23:16 PM
Any formal update on  the travel arrangements. I would normally be coming into Enniskillen from Blacklion, is that not permitted now?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on June 07, 2013, 02:40:42 PM
http://www.g8ni2013.com/faqs/transport/#transport1

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on June 09, 2013, 04:50:44 PM
Miller and Mooney gone from the match panel from the last day.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on June 09, 2013, 04:56:31 PM
Who comes into replace them? Was this released to the media or inside info tommy?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on June 09, 2013, 05:41:48 PM
Quote from: Westside on June 09, 2013, 04:56:31 PM
Who comes into replace them? Was this released to the media or inside info tommy?

Miller played with his club last night which he would not have been allowed do if he was on the panel, so O'Mara is in for him.

Mooney kicked up at having to play full back for the Cavan Juniors and apparently didn't try while he was on the field so was told not to come back.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on June 09, 2013, 05:52:02 PM
Neither are significant losses to the panel, but I'd hope Mooney hasn't burnt his bridges (if that's true). He has good potential.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on June 09, 2013, 05:52:27 PM
We had players with that sort of attitude before. Mooney should go away and think long and hard about his attitude if that is true. Time to leave Miller out, has very little to offer in the modern game. New keepers coming through have much more dedication. Can you stick up the panel Tommy?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on June 09, 2013, 05:57:47 PM
Strange by Mooney, he has been injured for a year, should have been happy at getting more game time. Obviously he is more suited to midfield/half forward role, or even half back.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on June 09, 2013, 06:09:01 PM
Don't have the panel lads i was just talking to a fellow last night who had that news.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on June 09, 2013, 06:38:54 PM
He should be happy to get a jersey and should play in goals if he is asked to.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on June 09, 2013, 07:17:44 PM
Quote from: tommysmith on June 09, 2013, 06:09:01 PM
Don't have the panel lads i was just talking to a fellow last night who had that news.


Is that the same bloke who knew that Mossy Corr was heading stateside?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on June 09, 2013, 07:22:46 PM
Donegal v Down in Breffni on June 23 it appears.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on June 09, 2013, 07:51:55 PM
Good for Cavan getting a big game with the International Rules later in the year too, not the ideal location for those counties travel wise though.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cornafean on June 10, 2013, 02:50:47 PM
Down folk were delighted to be in Breffni Park when they played Sligo there in 2010. No complaints from Donegal people in 2012 & 2011.

Breffni is as handy for both as Clones is, with better facilities outside and inside the ground.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Swadman on June 10, 2013, 03:32:53 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on June 07, 2013, 02:23:16 PM
Any formal update on  the travel arrangements. I would normally be coming into Enniskillen from Blacklion, is that not permitted now?
According to Fermanagh GAA twitter "If you get a bus to Brewster you get dropped off at the gates..So why not travel together, Makes Sense and saves the feet"
Fermanagh GAA has produced this guidance in consultation with Ulster GAA, PSNI and... http://fb.me/2zYoOYVm3

and for those without Facebook
"Supporters from Fermanagh clubs travelling to Enniskillen on match day are asked to follow the following advice -
Club - Brookeborough, Roslea, Aghdrumsee, St Patricks, Tempo, Maguiresbridge, Lisbellaw, Knocks
Travel via Tempo – (travelling via Fivemiletown/Brookeborough/Lisbellaw) to Tempo -B80 Tempo Road - Enniskillen
Use Car Parks-signed off the Tempo Road, New Link Road
Newtownbutler, Lisnaskea
Travel via A34 to A4 travelling via Newtownbutler- Lisnaskea-Maguiresbridge–Enniskillen
Use Car Parks-Signed off Dublin Road, Wellington Place, Irvinestown Road, Tempo Road

Clubs-Teemore, Kinawley, Derrylin
Travel via A 509 and on to the A4 -travelling A509 and to A4 via Montaigh Cross-Innishmore Road-Carrybridge-Tamlaght-Enniskillen.
Clubs using buses can obtain a pass from Fermanagh GAA to allow for travel via Belnaleck to Enniskillen.
Use Car Parks - signed off Dublin Road, Wellington Place, Irvinestown Road, Tempo Road
Clubs-Belnaleck, Belcoo
Travel via A4- Sligo Road travelling A4- Sligo Road-Enniskillen
Use Car Parks-signed off Sligo Road
Clubs-Derrygonnelly
Travel via B81 Derrygonnelly Road -travelling via B81 Derrygonnelly Road - Enniskillen
Use Car Parks-Derrygonnelly Road, Round O, Brook.
Clubs-Devenish, Erne Gaels, Ederney, Irvinestown
Travel via A47 Boa Island/Kesh -travelling via Kesh –Irvinestown A32-Enniskillen
Use Car Parks-signed off Irvinestown Road, Cornagrade Road
Clubs-Coa
Travel via Coa Road (travelling via Coa Road) Enniskillen
Use Car Parks-signed off Irvinestown Road, Cornagrade Road"
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on June 10, 2013, 03:33:34 PM
I wasn't talking about the facilities I meant the length of travel, Down would be going through Monaghan and  Clones, well most, to get to Cavan.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on June 10, 2013, 05:50:57 PM
Is it really worth the hassle that having the game in Enniskillen is going to cause? A much smaller Cavan crowd will attend and probably a few from Fermanagh will be put off by the security measures too. The game should have been brought to Clones.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on June 10, 2013, 09:08:48 PM
Def should be in Clones, over the top match prices in Enniskillan will put a few off too.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on June 10, 2013, 09:17:17 PM
Might not be good for the supporters but a great venue for all our young players given they love playing there and winning there. I'll take a bit of a shitty journey if we get the win.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on June 10, 2013, 10:35:37 PM
Our players might like playing there but don't overplay that card. Brewster is still Fermanagh's home ground and they will likely outnumber us. I'd rather be in a neutral ground with a bigger Cavan crowd. I know a fair few that aren't going to travel because of the disruption, Brewster is a horrible ground for parking and getting out of at the best of times.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on June 10, 2013, 11:13:30 PM
If your fool enough to park outside the ground its nasty to get out of, park in any carpark in the town its no problem. I'm not a bit worried about their home ground either. As for lads that won't travel, they should do the same in the next round.
PS. If there was ever a shitehole that was hard to get out of its that dump clones.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on June 10, 2013, 11:20:26 PM
Quote from: Itchy on June 10, 2013, 11:13:30 PM
If your fool enough to park outside the ground its nasty to get out of, park in any carpark in the town its no problem. I'm not a bit worried about their home ground either. As for lads that won't travel, they should do the same in the next round.
PS. If there was ever a shitehole that was hard to get out of its that dump clones.

Bit dramatic, common sense that the game should have been played elsewhere,e or moved to an earlier date even. Wouldn't blame supporters not bothering going, to be stuck in check points and what not. And then look at the prices the Ulster Council have for the game, its alright saying don't bother going to the next game. Bit of common sense from Fermanagh board and and they could have agreed to play the game in Clones, and let both teams get on with it, instead of this side show.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on June 11, 2013, 05:06:16 AM
Cormac Reilly from Meath down to ref the match on Sunday in Brewster. I don't know much about him save for the fact he annoyed a few Cavan people when in charge of the U21 semi-final against Roscommon a while back. I hope he gets the big calls correct.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on June 11, 2013, 08:33:09 AM
Quote from: cavanmaniac on June 11, 2013, 05:06:16 AM
Cormac Reilly from Meath down to ref the match on Sunday in Brewster. I don't know much about him save for the fact he annoyed a few Cavan people when in charge of the U21 semi-final against Roscommon a while back. I hope he gets the big calls correct.

Fucks sake
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on June 11, 2013, 11:47:03 AM
Free fest it is so. No Meath man should be allowed referee a Cavan match especially a whistle happy hoor like him.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on June 11, 2013, 12:14:47 PM
He wasn't doing much blowing for Cavan last year in the u21 against Ross, trying to let every ott tackle on a Cavan player go unpunished. Even missed a blatant penalty for Jack Brady.

I would have to say one of the worst performances I ever saw by a ref.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on June 11, 2013, 06:25:31 PM
Hour long delays, 25 into an uncovered stand, Cormac feckin Reilly.. Is this a conspiracy against Cavan?!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on June 11, 2013, 06:32:09 PM
Looks like it, couldn't be more against Cavan anyways. Although Fermanagh have no fit players apparently,
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on June 11, 2013, 06:35:37 PM
BBC reporting that some Fermanagh lads are making a miraculous recovery!! Must have been a Lourdese-esque miracle.

BBC also reporting that Mossy is fit....?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on June 11, 2013, 07:12:02 PM
Hopefully we will know how to "play" the Ref, what he punishes, lets go etc. and play accordingly. 

But I'm a bit put out by how we are honing our excuses already. 
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on June 11, 2013, 10:53:35 PM
http://www.cavangaa.ie/news/371/Team_Named_For_Brewster_Park_USFC_Quarter_Final.html
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on June 12, 2013, 01:33:16 PM
Anyone going to the Junior game in Longford tonight?

I didn't even know it was on until i seen the Celt.

I wont be going to tonight as i didn't get to the last game and Itchy would be giving out if i turned up  :P

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on June 12, 2013, 05:07:22 PM
Butsy Caroll was called up yesterday , with Mooney off the panel and Ross Sheridan injured. God knows how he will play if selected, after being on a bender yesterday.

Game is at 7.30 pearse park.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: scoopmine on June 12, 2013, 07:18:06 PM
Mooney seems to be starting according to the team lineouts. Maybe all that talk about him dropping off was all talk.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on June 12, 2013, 07:23:51 PM
Quote from: scoopmine on June 12, 2013, 07:18:06 PM
Mooney seems to be starting according to the team lineouts. Maybe all that talk about him dropping off was all talk.

Hopefully
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on June 12, 2013, 11:04:58 PM
Hard luck to the juniors tonight, put up a good fight and nearly sneaked a goal at the end. Given the senior match is at the weekend it was a big ask to win this one too.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on June 12, 2013, 11:14:12 PM
Any good that doesn't go to the game wants a kick up the hole...

Cavan County Board have made an appeal to their supporters not to stay away from Brewster Park because of any traffic restrictions that are in place due to the G8 summit
Cavan PRO Declan Woods said the only inconvenience that the travelling fans will experience is having to leave an hour earlier than usual.
With nearly 7,000 car parking spaces designated around the town, the majority of which are within a 15-minute walk of Brewster Park, Woods said Cavan supporters won't be too badly discommoded by restrictions.
"Our players are capable of great sacrifices, so we would hope that our supporters would make an extra one on this occasion. We'd like our supporters to set off an hour earlier than usual and follow the guidelines around Enniskillen," said Woods.
Security restrictions are in place because of the G8 summit, which takes place at the nearby Lough Erne resort on Monday and Tuesday next week.
Some roads are closed and others have restricted access, but a plan has been devised to filter cars from specific clubs to designated car parks.
ARRANGEMENTS

Cavan officials visited Enniskillen on Monday to meet with Fermanagh counterparts, the PSNI and Fermanagh District Council, and they are happy with the arrangements.
Breffni manager Terry Hyland has already expressed fears that the travelling support will be limited because of what he feels has been "misinformation."
Hyland's sense of the situation was that talk of road closures, long walks to the ground and a potential communications black-out has been in circulation without the proper clarity and this could drive supporters to watch the match on TV instead.
Cavan report no injury worries since their surprise victory over Armagh in the Ulster SFC preliminary round.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on June 13, 2013, 08:27:59 AM
Predictable attempts to claw back the growing perception that Enniskillen will be a sh!t show on Sunday.

Whether it actually turns out like this or not is irrelevant, the organisers, with any semblance of cop-on at all, should have been able to foretell that people would have these concerns. Who wouldn't? It would have been only sensible to have  taken the guess work out of it altogether and moved the match as soon as possible, but here we are. Poor planning and management all round if you ask me.

I guess a kick in the moneybag will put them wise for similar situations in the future.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on June 13, 2013, 09:13:27 AM
Myself and 3 others go to games together, as of last night the other 3 are not going. I'm undecided what to do myself, I haven't been talking to anyone that is going.

Personally i think there will be no bother getting in as i don't there will be many going to it.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on June 13, 2013, 10:41:02 AM
I drove through Enniskillen yesterday from Belfast heading to Sligo, no bother at all. Might be too much being made of all this. People should just go to the game, what do they think is going to happen to them - a strip search?

Fermanagh Co board should have park and ride systems set up to help the elderly etc and although I have heard something about that the detail is sketchy. If they made some clear announcements as to what is going to happen maybe that would be a help.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on June 15, 2013, 01:43:22 AM
I like the Anglo Celt Podcasts, but that Damian Donohoe fella comes out with some dung at times. When talking about the worry that if Keating was bottled up our chances would be hindered he said "Most of Dunne's scores came from Keatings passes".. 2 I think?!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on June 15, 2013, 06:24:26 AM
Paul Fitzpatrick's piece in the Celt will make s great poster on the Fermanagh dressing room wall.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on June 15, 2013, 04:56:23 PM
OK Girls, here is the deal on Enniskillen. I was up there today, drove through from Blacklion all the way up to Belfast. There was one Garda checkpoint at Blacklion, asked for my destination and waved me on. Nothing more up to Enniskillen. In Enniskillen there is a heavy presence of police, lots of cops walking around and loads of armoured jeeps but no check points. There was a big checkpoint about 2 miles north of Enniskillen, PSNI there were looking for destination and licence and wanted to know that I owned the car. All in all I didnt get held up anything at all.

It won't be any different tomorrow morning so although we all may have genuine excuses for not going tomorrow, the G8 isnt one of them. Come on to f**k lads and get to the match!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on June 16, 2013, 03:58:10 PM
Well done Cavan.  Weren't over awed and kept the head.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: scoopmine on June 16, 2013, 06:33:39 PM
Hard fought win delighted for the lads. Some bad shooting decisions but serious character shown. Had a quick check on the Hogan there and some Monaghan members are getting the boot in early. Its going to be an interesting two weeks!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on June 16, 2013, 06:53:52 PM
A good win, great bottle shown when all the momentum was against us for the second game in a row. Out and out refusal to be beaten, great stuff. Our tackling and turning over the ball in the first half was outstanding, typified by Mackey who had a stormer even though he was blatantly being targeted by Fermanagh. Martin Dunne lived off scraps but got a few important scores and his last from play was sublime, an outstanding score at any stage during a game but to put us ahead going into injury time made it all the more special. Gilsenan was very solid in goals and dealt with the high ball very well. Didn't look impressed that he wasn't brought up to hit the free Dunne missed towards the end. Alan Clarke was immense throughout and his disposession on the Fermanagh man storming through at the end was quality, we were screaming at them to take him down!

There are a few negatives from the day though, once again we were wiped out at midfield. Won very little clean possession and in general were second to the breaking ball. David Givney's wild shooting was frustrating, he has a lot of potential but his decision making at times is awful. Martin Reilly kicked 3 into the goalkeepers hands in the second half. Lack of a good free taker hurt us too.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on June 16, 2013, 09:42:26 PM
Quote from: Westside on June 16, 2013, 06:53:52 PM
A good win, great bottle shown when all the momentum was against us for the second game in a row. Out and out refusal to be beaten, great stuff. Our tackling and turning over the ball in the first half was outstanding, typified by Mackey who had a stormer even though he was blatantly being targeted by Fermanagh. Martin Dunne lived off scraps but got a few important scores and his last from play was sublime, an outstanding score at any stage during a game but to put us ahead going into injury time made it all the more special. Gilsenan was very solid in goals and dealt with the high ball very well. Didn't look impressed that he wasn't brought up to hit the free Dunne missed towards the end. Alan Clarke was immense throughout and his disposession on the Fermanagh man storming through at the end was quality, we were screaming at them to take him down!

There are a few negatives from the day though, once again we were wiped out at midfield. Won very little clean possession and in general were second to the breaking ball. David Givney's wild shooting was frustrating, he has a lot of potential but his decision making at times is awful. Martin Reilly kicked 3 into the goalkeepers hands in the second half. Lack of a good free taker hurt us too.

In the second Fermanagh got on top at midfield alright with Eoin Donnelly making a big impact and Martin Mcgrath stepping up. Givney had a decent first half, Damien Reilly wasn't winning much and was moved once  Declan McKiernan came on, it didn't go well for McKiernan, caught in possession and Kicked 2 poor wides, when he had time to compose himself. He showed well but was too slow releasing the ball


Keating is developing into a quality Footballer. His performance against Donegal last year kicking 5 pts, was a sign of his potential. Was a big loss back in 2010 for the U 21's.

Been a long time since Cavan played in Clones at Senior, hopefully it will be a winning return..
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on June 19, 2013, 08:54:52 PM
Well lads. I told you Cavan would win and I also told you the security checks and traffic was a load of Bollix. I hope you all paid attention and went to the game. I found it very enjoyable! This year already we have beaten Monaghan at U21 and Senior, Fermanagh at Minor and Senior and Meath at Senior and in a challenge too. You can't get much better than that! Now for Monaghan and I think it is a winable game. We do need to improve on certain aspects. We seemed to get a bit excited at time against Fermanagh and forced the shot or had the wrong players taking the shots. Once or twice we made some poor decisions to give in balls when it wasnt really on. I put it down to youth and inexperience on the big day but I am certain they will learn from that for the next game. One thing that did irk me a bit was how Dec McKiernan was treated, I thought he deserved 5 more mins to get into the game. Corr did no more than him when he came on. I think Dec just struggles with his nerves on the big day. Awful shame one of those shots didnt go over for him. I hope he does the right thing and re-doubles his efforts and gets another shot at it as Corr doesn't look near fit to me. He may be needed as McEnroe and Jack Brady are likely to be doubts. Also one player who didnt get a mention much after the game was Niall McDermott. A lot of us left him off our teams earlier in the season but in fairness he has been class. He won the ball for that last point like his life depended on it and was nearly beheaded for his efforts. Big congrats to him.
So the season has been a success as far as I am concerned and anything more is a bonus but God I would love to see us give it to Monaghan in Clones.
Paul Fitzpatrick - what are ya at mentioning the unmentionable in this weeks celt? Good God man don't be going back there again.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on June 20, 2013, 12:49:32 PM
http://hoganstand.com/cavan/ArticleForm.aspx?ID=194852

Gaynors name is now in the public domain. 20 weeks, he is getting off lightly. What a waste of talent that boy is.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on June 20, 2013, 01:05:38 PM
If he had kept his head he would still be centre back for Cavan. Played his best football at 20/21in 04/05. Then drifted off the scene. Made a brief comeback in 2011 in the final game of the league against Tipp. Then missed the championship with an ankle problem.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on June 20, 2013, 01:25:07 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on June 20, 2013, 01:05:38 PM
If he had kept his head he would still be centre back for Cavan. Played his best football at 20/21in 04/05. Then drifted off the scene. Made a brief comeback in 2011 in the final game of the league against Tipp. Then missed the championship with an ankle problem.

I think he got dropped from the panel after going on the beer for a few days after the tipp game
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on June 20, 2013, 01:28:27 PM
Actually he did yeah, 3 or 4 day bender. He did have an ankle problem around that time too.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on June 20, 2013, 06:45:17 PM
Didn't realise we had a soccer keeper training our keepers...

http://www.herald.ie/sport/soccer/rogers-is-happy-with-his-dual-role-29358007.html
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on June 20, 2013, 10:26:22 PM
Been there all year, great for Gilsenan and O' Mara to learn more from a keeper who is full time. Even if it's only once a week sessions.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on June 21, 2013, 11:01:25 PM
Quote from: tommysmith on June 20, 2013, 01:25:07 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on June 20, 2013, 01:05:38 PM
If he had kept his head he would still be centre back for Cavan. Played his best football at 20/21in 04/05. Then drifted off the scene. Made a brief comeback in 2011 in the final game of the league against Tipp. Then missed the championship with an ankle problem.

I think he got dropped from the panel after going on the beer for a few days after the tipp game

Thankfully we can ignore most of what you post given the nonsense you have posted about Tommy Corr, Turloch Mooney and Terry Hyland over the last few weeks.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on June 22, 2013, 07:34:08 PM
Good boy anglo.

Edit: Can you show me what  i posted about Corr please young lad :D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on June 22, 2013, 11:47:00 PM
Glad to do that Tommy when you fill me in on the few lads who were heading stateside after the Armagh match. ;)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on June 23, 2013, 09:46:18 AM
Quote from: tommysmith on June 20, 2013, 01:25:07 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on June 20, 2013, 01:05:38 PM
If he had kept his head he would still be centre back for Cavan. Played his best football at 20/21in 04/05. Then drifted off the scene. Made a brief comeback in 2011 in the final game of the league against Tipp. Then missed the championship with an ankle problem.

I think he got dropped from the panel after going on the beer for a few days after the tipp game

I always thought Gaynor was going to be a great player for cavan and the stupid things he did he might grow out of but it seems that he has the maturity of a teenager on the field. You would hope having his name splashed across the national media and getting a large ban might force him to take a look at himself but it seems to me he hasn't the brains to do that and will most likely go down as another Cavan footballer who pissed his potential away. We can only hope. I tell you I would not be happy if some thug bit my sons ear like that on a field, he made a real mess of that ear.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on June 23, 2013, 09:50:25 AM
Quote from: anglocelt39 on June 22, 2013, 11:47:00 PM
Glad to do that Tommy when you fill me in on the few lads who were heading stateside after the Armagh match. ;)

Nobody was going till out of Ulster championship, deadline for transfers is up for that next week i think.

Now fill me on on Corr?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on June 23, 2013, 09:57:15 AM
Its always good to take stock of where we are today versus, say a few weeks ago. One of the bonuses with the team doing well is that "fans" like Dirtyball vanish.

I quote...
.                                                                                                                                          When exactly would you expect the present management to start producing? Given that hyland himself has been in or around the senior set up 4/5 years. Lads like Givney McDermott dunne were all u21 in 2010 . Lads like Murray Meehan seem to have been discarded already and they were u21 in 2011. Fergal Flanagan comes back in for his annual first round of the championship game . He was brutal against Donegal last year and was at fault for Corks last 3 points in the u21 semi . And to call him a senior county footballer is complete nonsense. If you look at last years first round team v Donegal and look at this years team v Armagh there not a lot of similarities to show the management know what they are doing. As a poster here said already hyland played a big part in the downfall of Andrews by not opening his mouth regarding team selection and regarding who was dropped from the panel. He set Val up for a fall and jumped in when Val left. He got 4 and a half years and from the way he is shaping up he will leave it no better than when he joined it all those years ago. Yes he worked wonders with the u21s .but so did Peter Reilly this year. That doesn't make them senior managers. Nor does jumping on the sideline like a headless chicken roaring his guts of make forde and better than a selector with a bit of cop. Armagh by 5 and wait for Terry's work in progress press conference.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on June 23, 2013, 10:24:36 AM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on June 23, 2013, 09:46:18 AM
Quote from: tommysmith on June 20, 2013, 01:25:07 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on June 20, 2013, 01:05:38 PM
If he had kept his head he would still be centre back for Cavan. Played his best football at 20/21in 04/05. Then drifted off the scene. Made a brief comeback in 2011 in the final game of the league against Tipp. Then missed the championship with an ankle problem.

I think he got dropped from the panel after going on the beer for a few days after the tipp game

I always thought Gaynor was going to be a great player for cavan and the stupid things he did he might grow out of but it seems that he has the maturity of a teenager on the field. You would hope having his name splashed across the national media and getting a large ban might force him to take a look at himself but it seems to me he hasn't the brains to do that and will most likely go down as another Cavan footballer who pissed his potential away. We can only hope. I tell you I would not be happy if some thug bit my sons ear like that on a field, he made a real mess of that ear.

Regardless if he does come back and play for Ballinagh after the ban and keeps his head down he still won't be near the County team. Cadden has a permanent scar on his ear from that incident.. Wouldn't have a player like that near a County team. Good player but pissed away his potential, by on/off field antics in the past.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on June 23, 2013, 11:27:49 AM
He bit a guys ear, this shouldn't be a matter for the County Board or the GAA, this should be a full criminal investigation. A biting incident goes way above and beyond the fouls in a game that you give implied consent to once you take to the field. It's a serious assault.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Swadman on June 23, 2013, 12:07:04 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on June 23, 2013, 09:46:18 AM

I always thought Gaynor was going to be a great player for cavan and the stupid things he did he might grow out of but it seems that he has the maturity of a teenager on the field. You would hope having his name splashed across the national media and getting a large ban might force him to take a look at himself but it seems to me he hasn't the brains to do that and will most likely go down as another Cavan footballer who pissed his potential away. We can only hope. I tell you I would not be happy if some thug bit my sons ear like that on a field, he made a real mess of that ear.
You could say he has "made a pig's ear" out of his football career  ;D

I have seen a lot of young lads over the years and hoped that the obvious footballing potential would develop and took it for granted that a maturity (mental toughness) would naturally replace their childish quirks. Sadly these 2 things have not always combined.  Great effort has gone into coaching of the skills of the game but "life skills" and these "quirks of character" are left to chance or nature to sort out. Maybe it's time we gave some help in that part of development instead of the "win at all costs" dogma?
   
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Swadman on June 23, 2013, 12:34:32 PM
http://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/gaa/mcgeeney-abuse-of-gaa-players-has-hit-new-level-234846.html#.UcawIE_KaIc.twitter
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on June 24, 2013, 10:45:39 PM
Any predictions for Saturday lads. I think the minors have done well but I'm afraid this will be the end of the road. Hope I'm wrong, just hope they can keep it competitive. I fancy the seniors to win by 3 points.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on June 24, 2013, 11:11:44 PM
As Kevin Keegan once said "I will love it if we beat them " http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YXpUdBlRZe8

Monaghan Minors will be strong favourites to beat Cavan after a convincing win against Antrim and winning the Minor league, hammering Cavan along the way. Cavan grinded out 2 hard wins against Armagh and Fermanagh.
Greg McGovern is a obvious loss at midfield for Cavan Minors. But all the pressure is on the Mushroom men, nobody giving Cavan Minors a chance, so who know;s

Senior game will be very close, Monaghan have obviously more experience in Lennon, Clerkin, Finaly, Mone,
But Cavan will have no fear, we beat them in the league. They lost McManus early but we lost Dunne shortly after. Cavan were without Keating that night and they were missing Finlay.
Darren Hughes was kept quiet at centre back  that night from making the strong runs he usually makes, containing him and Cavan will be doing well on Saturday.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on June 30, 2013, 01:46:19 PM
Well it was a hearbreaking loss... We had a bit of luck at the beginning with the ball crossing the line and/or Clarke handling it on the line but we didn't have much after. Bad mistake by the goalie gifted them a goal when we were in complete control, their point waved wide which was given by the ref, Damien O'Reilly hitting the crossbar and 99 times out of a hundred that ball will bounce over the bar but it spun out and went wide, the goalie fouled the ball twice at the end and had the ref been braver he would have given us the free to tie it up. Two Monaghan players could and should have seen the line for striking.

That said, had we controlled the controlables, we could have won the game. The difference for me in the end was the extra touch of class they had in Conor McManus. Our two corner forwards were better marked and both had nightmare days out. Keating showed that while he is a great ball winner and a great asset, his shot choice and accuracy are preventing him from becoming a quality full forward. He kicked 2 wides when the game was in the melting pot.
Dunne just didn't look fit, right at the start of the second half he was scrapping for a ball at the end line and he looked jaded as if it was the 70th minute. He should have been off much earlier. Also as I keep harping on about, free taking is a big problem.

Still very proud of their efforts though, we are developing much faster this year than I thought we would. Terry said earlier on in the year that he was trying to get our defensive system right. This is a long term plan and I'm sure that now we have a system in defence more emphasis can be placed on developing our attacking play. Yesterday Niall McDermott had another very good game, Givney chipped in with a few nice scores, Killian Clarke played well too.
The main thing is that we were competitive!! There is still the back door to come although the effort expended yesterday won't have us in great shape either mentally or physically. It would be great to see the same team take to the field and show the same hunger for the qualifiers.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on June 30, 2013, 02:15:00 PM
On the Minor game, the two goals killed us. What a goal by Liam Galligan, he should have started. Was excellent against Armagh and a poor game v Fermanagh seemed to have cost him his place. Greg made a huge difference too.

I still think Donohoe should go.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on June 30, 2013, 04:21:17 PM
Minors look a poorly drilled team but saying that they showed a lot of heart to hang in with a better team. One thing is all the subs out performed those they replaced so you have to wonder about the team that was picked to start.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on June 30, 2013, 08:19:16 PM
Agree with most of that Westside. The thing is I think we have overachieved this year. We have such a young team and many of  them are 2/3 years away from the physical peak. You could see how tired the likes of Mcloughlin was in the 2nd half from all t he hits and the power that Monaghan were able to throw at them. And yet still for all that we were only bet by a point and conceded a goal all of our own making. I think the future is bright. Martin Dunne needs to work on muscling up and a bit of power as do a good few others but thats no problem with the great attitude these lads have. We do need to look at another forward or two, young Madden from Gowna is the type of player we need - big, fast and powerful. I'm a bit pissed off we lost but still this year is a good year for us. Just hope we can get a beatable team in the draw tomorrow and take it from there.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanforever on June 30, 2013, 08:35:40 PM
If i was terry i would have had dunne off after 20 mins as it was clear what was going to happen for the rest of the game. Once he gets roughed up by a tenacious sticky corner back he doesn't want to know
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on June 30, 2013, 09:10:07 PM
I don't think there was anything wrong with Martin Dunne's fitness, as cavanfotever said, when a tenacious marker is getting the better of him he doesn't want to know

There was a ball in the second half he clearly should have had, he was in front of Walsh but then pulled out. He has had a good Championship, but maybe getting too much praise.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on June 30, 2013, 09:39:34 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on June 30, 2013, 09:10:07 PM
I don't think there was anything wrong with Martin Dunne's fitness, as cavanfotever said, when a tenacious marker is getting the better of him he doesn't want to know

There was a ball in the second half he clearly should have had, he was in front of Walsh but then pulled out. He has had a good Championship, but maybe getting too much praise.

He was rumored to have hurt his groin near the end of the Fermanagh game and did very little training since it. 
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on June 30, 2013, 09:40:26 PM
Bit harsh saying he doesn't want to know. You can't fault his effort or his runs, and very little quality ball went into him. He didn't have a good day out certainly but he was excellent in the last two games. There's no shame in being well marked. My initial reaction was that he should have been taken off after about 50 odd minutes when it was clear that he wasn't winning his personal battle but if you look at it from Terry's point of view, your most accurate forward in a one point game where one strike can win it, leaving him on could have been the right call. He was quiet in the second half v Fermanagh but won the game with an outstanding strike.

I'd be surprised if we progressed much further this year, mentally I think we're spent. The messages from the players seems to be very much "we'll be back next year" Hopefully I'm wrong, another few games and maybe another big scalp would be nice.

Long term I think the development of the team is going well. Some problem areas are the physicality in key areas, Jason McLoughlin is a quality player but needs to be a lot bigger than he is right now, Ronan Flanagan is another lad that's a worry in that department. Midfield needs a lot more consistency and hopefully Gearoid can make a full recovery and return to playing well there with Corr inside him. That could possibly allow us to free up Givney to play in attack, a bit of pace and power there is vital. We NEED a solid free taker from the right, Jack Brady being fit and available would help with that and give us a bigger scoring threat in the half forward line.

Niall McDermott has been our player of Championship for me so far.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on June 30, 2013, 10:17:01 PM

Quote from: Westside on June 30, 2013, 09:40:26 PM
Bit harsh saying he doesn't want to know. You can't fault his effort or his runs, and very little quality ball went into him. He didn't have a good day out certainly but he was excellent in the last two games. There's no shame in being well marked. My initial reaction was that he should have been taken off after about 50 odd minutes when it was clear that he wasn't winning his personal battle but if you look at it from Terry's point of view, your most accurate forward in a one point game where one strike can win it, leaving him on could have been the right call. He was quiet in the second half v Fermanagh but won the game with an outstanding strike.

I'd be surprised if we progressed much further this year, mentally I think we're spent. The messages from the players seems to be very much "we'll be back next year" Hopefully I'm wrong, another few games and maybe another big scalp would be nice.

Long term I think the development of the team is going well. Some problem areas are the physicality in key areas, Jason McLoughlin is a quality player but needs to be a lot bigger than he is right now, Ronan Flanagan is another lad that's a worry in that department. Midfield needs a lot more consistency and hopefully Gearoid can make a full recovery and return to playing well there with Corr inside him. That could possibly allow us to free up Givney to play in attack, a bit of pace and power there is vital. We NEED a solid free taker from the right, Jack Brady being fit and available would help with that and give us a bigger scoring threat in the half forward line.

Niall McDermott has been our player of Championship for me so far.

Martin Dunne needs to get Stronger similar to Jason McGlaughlin if Cavan are to be genuine Ulster contenders. Dunne is a light player and was going to get it tough against a tenacious type player like Colin Walshe. Dunne has all the ability, maybe lacking some toughness. But I think he will, its his first year playing Senior Championship..

Ronan Flanagan is 26, I don't think he will be getting any bigger. Was always a solid player, but on the short side.

Been impressed with Killian Clarke, had doubts about him but he has been solid and has no fear.

I think they will be up for the qualifiers. A 1pt defeat is hard to take, but im sure they would like get another crack this year..
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on July 01, 2013, 12:15:28 AM
Not too disappointed with the defeat to be honest. It's never nice losing and losing to Monaghan especially but when we take a step back I think we can see the team is right where Terry and Co. would have planned for them to be. Two championship wins, the system bedding in, huge team spirit and dedication evident and a qualifier still to come are all the stuff of good news for Cavan at this stage in their development.

I think mentally this team has been approaching games in the correct manner all year, and I'm fairly sure they won't roll over and allow the qualifiers to pass them by now.

I have no fears there, but my one concern is that we seldom if ever get any luck in qualifier draws and as a young, building team in need of a softer outing for restorative purposes, it'd be a disaster to land Tyrone or indeed any of the other Ulster counties. Could we be drawn against Fermanagh or Armagh again, I always forget which rule the GAA have implemented?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on July 01, 2013, 10:14:58 AM
Fermanagh again.  I'd have preferred to have played them in Brewster but hay ho. 
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on July 01, 2013, 06:00:50 PM
Quote from: Denn Forever on July 01, 2013, 10:14:58 AM
Fermanagh again.  I'd have preferred to have played them in Brewster but hay ho.

It's not a great draw as they will have lots of motivation and will be confident that if they get off to a better start will win and the game at weekend will have brought them on as well.  Westmeath were in division 2 final so are not a bad team.

It's hard to know where Cavan are at, i would say that things have improved but how much is the big question.

Division 3 football is poor and there isn't a decent team in it so getting promotion is a must next year if we are to improve further. 

The last decent team that we played was Kildare and they hammered us and look what Dublin did to them yesterday. 

IMO the only thing's that the present team have any chance of winning is a Division 3 league.  Hopefully we can get some scoring forwards into the team/panel in the next year or two to help with scoring. i know Gearoid will also help on that front when fit again.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Swadman on July 01, 2013, 08:38:45 PM
Quote

It's hard to know where Cavan are at, i would say that things have improved but how much is the big question.

Division 3 football is poor and there isn't a decent team in it so getting promotion is a must next year if we are to improve further. 

The last decent team that we played was Kildare and they hammered us and look what Dublin did to them yesterday. 

IMO the only thing's that the present team have any chance of winning is a Division 3 league.  Hopefully we can get some scoring forwards into the team/panel in the next year or two to help with scoring. i know Gearoid will also help on that front when fit again.

For that reason alone it could be a blessing in disguise not to be going up against Donegal. If Monaghan could out muscle us then what would Donegal do in an Ulster final. A bad batein' on the big screen would be very damaging to this young teams progression. No, I'm content with the back door and a winnable game v Fermanagh, everything after that is a bonus (at least we're not Leitrim  ;D)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: bottom brick on July 01, 2013, 08:59:07 PM
On another note, its great to see a former Cavan player enjoying a bit of success with his adopted county. Lorcan Mulvey has been a great addition to London since he moved there for work  and now has a Connacht final to look forward to. Im sure he will have the support of his fellow Cavanmen on the day and would be welcomed back if he returned to Cavan. In stark contrast to you know who, who made a scoreless cameo for Kildare in their capitulation to Dublin
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on July 01, 2013, 09:14:23 PM
Quote from: bottom brick on July 01, 2013, 08:59:07 PM
On another note, its great to see a former Cavan player enjoying a bit of success with his adopted county. Lorcan Mulvey has been a great addition to London since he moved there for work  and now has a Connacht final to look forward to. Im sure he will have the support of his fellow Cavanmen on the day and would be welcomed back if he returned to Cavan. In stark contrast to you know who, who made a scoreless cameo for Kildare in their capitulation to Dublin

Fair play to Mulvey his temperament let him down a few times when with Cavan but he is a talented footballer. 

As for you know who i wonder is all the travelling for training and matches worth it, i'd say he would rather be doing more than warming the bench  :D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on July 02, 2013, 12:08:33 AM
Disappointed with that draw to be honest. You almost always want a team from a different province and a repeat of a previous game is just a real downer. We won't learn anything from another fishwives' haranguing match with Fermanagh. And I can see us losing it this time around too, they'll have learned a lot from the first game and have the momentum now as well. Really disappointing, I know that on the face of it, it's winnable, and we could have done worse, but I was desperate for a better learning opportunity and a novelty pairing to get us out of these incestuous, suffocating bore-fests in Ulster. :(
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on July 02, 2013, 12:17:22 PM
Quote from: cavanmaniac on July 02, 2013, 12:08:33 AM
Disappointed with that draw to be honest. You almost always want a team from a different province and a repeat of a previous game is just a real downer. We won't learn anything from another fishwives' haranguing match with Fermanagh. And I can see us losing it this time around too, they'll have learned a lot from the first game and have the momentum now as well. Really disappointing, I know that on the face of it, it's winnable, and we could have done worse, but I was desperate for a better learning opportunity and a novelty pairing to get us out of these incestuous, suffocating bore-fests in Ulster. :(

I agree to a point but at the same time we could have got an away game against say Tyrone or Derry so on the face of it we can win and progress. My only fear is the players buy into the "for feck sake not them again" attitude. You know well that Fermanagh are loving this, a chance of revenge again, as they feel they totally under-performed against us in the 1st half the last day and thats the only reason they won. Our lads need to be chomping at the bit to keep these annoying neighbours in their box!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on July 02, 2013, 02:53:31 PM
Can see it being another dire game of football. League promotion was lost against Fermanagh in Breffni, that should be a little extra motivation this time around.

I also don't know why anyone would want to play them in Brewster again. We beat them there in the last 2 visits and have a good record there under age. But can't be depending to play there all the time. They will be confident of beating Cavan after going to Mullingar and getting a result..
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on July 06, 2013, 06:57:26 PM
Minor Division 1 Semi Finals were played last night, I find it amazing that a Templeport team (who were without two of their county Minors, Farrell and Galligan) can beat an amalgamation of Cavan Gaels and Killigarry. They will duke it out with Ramor in the Final as they have done in every age-group since U12.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on July 06, 2013, 07:03:25 PM
An excellent win for Templeport. They have the exact same team as least year apparently?
I was at the Ramor semi, they looked very impressive.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on July 06, 2013, 07:24:02 PM
I hope we are up for it next week.  Down seemed to be quite poor after their performance against Donegal.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on July 06, 2013, 07:29:49 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on July 06, 2013, 07:03:25 PM
An excellent win for Templeport. They have the exact same team as least year apparently?
I was at the Ramor semi, they looked very impressive.

Missing only Eoghan Martin who played midfield for them last year. I saw them play in other years and they always has 13 excellent players but were carrying a few young lads and had a weak bench, just a lack of numbers. That's why I was shocked they won without two of their best players. Ramor are a very good side, what county minors would they have had this year?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on July 06, 2013, 07:47:38 PM
Quote from: Westside on July 06, 2013, 07:29:49 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on July 06, 2013, 07:03:25 PM
An excellent win for Templeport. They have the exact same team as least year apparently?
I was at the Ramor semi, they looked very impressive.

Missing only Eoghan Martin who played midfield for them last year. I saw them play in other years and they always has 13 excellent players but were carrying a few young lads and had a weak bench, just a lack of numbers. That's why I was shocked they won without two of their best players. Ramor are a very good side, what county minors would they have had this year?

Conor Bradley would have been involved. There was other lads in and around the panel during the year, Jack Doyle and Sean Brady.

Great for Templeport in future years to build a solid team around a lot of those Minors
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on July 06, 2013, 09:56:19 PM
Surprised they didn't have a bigger representation on the Minor Team. When's the final?

Any word coming from the Senior camp? Some Monaghan lad on HS saying that Dunne's season is over with a knee injury and Killian Clarke has gone to the USA. Could just be on the windup but both are believable. Been a long year for Clarke don't think I could blame him if he went.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on July 07, 2013, 11:31:45 AM
Not sure when the Minor Final is, Brian O Connell would have been with the Minors aswell, kicked the late score after coming on as a sub against Armagh. They had 1 or 2 other players on the Minor panel aswell.

Be a disaster if Rory Dunne is out injured again. He was have a decent championship after being injury hit for the past 2 years. And playing little football in the League.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: comeysfield on July 08, 2013, 12:35:05 PM
Sounds like we will be definitely without Rory Dunne & McEnroe  McLoughlin doubtful as well. Killian Clarke will be there that sounds like bull Sh*** to me
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: CC1 on July 10, 2013, 12:32:17 PM
Killian Clarke most certainly is still here and won't be going anywhere until the end of Cavan's season.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on July 10, 2013, 03:21:59 PM
Rory Dunne is the only player doubtful. The rest are grand and should be able to play.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: comeysfield on July 10, 2013, 04:01:23 PM
Yahoo
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on July 10, 2013, 07:32:41 PM
What is worse than having Marty Duffy ref the game, why having his brother do it instead. Thank you GAA, think I might watch the game on aertel as this man will most likely ruin it.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on July 12, 2013, 09:21:41 PM
Team named...

1.  Conor Gilsenan (Bailieborough Shamrocks)
2.  Jason McLoughlin (Shannon Gaels)
3.  Rory Dunne (Redhills)
4.  Killian Clarke (Shercock)
5.  James McEnroe (Ramor United)
6.  Alan Clarke (Kingscourt) Captain
7.  Ronan Flanagan (Castlerahan)
8.  Damien O'Reilly (Belturbet)
9.  David Givney (Mountnugent)
10. Cian Mackey (Castlerahan)
11. Jack Brady (Ramor United)
12. Feargal Flanagan (Butlersbridge)
13. Niall McDermott (Ballinagh)
14. Martin Dunne (Cavan Gaels)
15. Eugene Keating (Saint Sylvesters)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on July 12, 2013, 10:10:23 PM
Team named as expected. I'd expect that team to start unless there are some injuries that we don't know about.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: FermGael on July 12, 2013, 10:29:05 PM
That will be the team that takes time field for the parade anyhow. Fermanagh team will be named by 7.01 p.m tomorrow.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on July 12, 2013, 10:31:49 PM
7.25 when Fermanagh score?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: FermGael on July 12, 2013, 10:54:27 PM
That's not a bad shout. I expect 7.21
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on July 13, 2013, 12:09:12 PM
Good luck to our lads today. I am convinced we have the better footballers and once the work rate and passion is there I think we can pull through. It will not be easy and I expect a big effort from Fermanagh.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on July 13, 2013, 12:57:12 PM
Quote from: tommysmith on July 01, 2013, 06:00:50 PM
Quote from: Denn Forever on July 01, 2013, 10:14:58 AM
Fermanagh again.  I'd have preferred to have played them in Brewster but hay ho.

It's not a great draw as they will have lots of motivation and will be confident that if they get off to a better start will win and the game at weekend will have brought them on as well.  Westmeath were in division 2 final so are not a bad team.

It's hard to know where Cavan are at, i would say that things have improved but how much is the big question.

Division 3 football is poor and there isn't a decent team in it so getting promotion is a must next year if we are to improve further. 

The last decent team that we played was Kildare and they hammered us and look what Dublin did to them yesterday. 

IMO the only thing's that the present team have any chance of winning is a Division 3 league.  Hopefully we can get some scoring forwards into the team/panel in the next year or two to help with scoring. i know Gearoid will also help on that front when fit again.

Forgot to reply to that, but comparing the Kildare result to this year's side is like comparing apples & oranges. Cavan are a lot more solid in defence this year, and that is clear by the way they are set up defensively.
(Ross result apart in the league) Cavan were also without James McEnroe, Alan Clarke, Cian Mackey for all of 2012. They have been excellent this year.

Getting the defence is right was the main thing at the start of the year, Peter Donnelly has been doing good work in that area.

Anyways. Dublin would hammer any team in Leinster, they are the playing the best football in the Country. Kildare aren't the same team as last year, scrapped past Offaly in the quarter finals.

Also think there is more then a Division 3 title in the Cavan side in future years. Not going to happen all of a sudden...
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on July 13, 2013, 01:12:03 PM
A win against Fermanagh and a good showing in the next round would really be a fantastic year for Cavan. That said I wouldn't be overly concerned if we didn't tonight, we have already exceeded expectations this year. I think the 3 Championship games so far has eased pressure on the team, there isn't the same desperate need for a win just to salvage something from the season.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: bottom brick on July 13, 2013, 11:58:19 PM
Well done Cavan, a great victory. I had my doubts going into this one but Terry obviously did a great job getting the lads up for it after a difficult defeat to Monaghan. Great to get a good goal aswell, we haven't been getting enough of them, great way fo lift the team and the crowd. Who would we rather get in rd 3?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: bottom brick on July 14, 2013, 12:00:21 AM
Very disappointed in the way Fermanagh approached the game, dirty hooers!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on July 14, 2013, 12:37:28 AM
Cavan were by far the better team. Fermanagh were clueless yet again in attack. Duffy had a shocker blowing every 2 seconds..
Ronan Flanagan had a great game, sweeping up balls and breaking forward at great pace. Cian Mackey was very impressive again, lovely pass for Dunne goal.
Givney worked very hard at midfield. Dara McVetty got his first taste of Senior action which was good to see

Decent crowd of around 9k
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on July 14, 2013, 11:12:15 AM
Well done Cavan.  Who would I like in the next round? Any one but Kildare. We don't need the media circus that would be around that game.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on July 14, 2013, 11:23:26 AM
Quote from: Denn Forever on July 14, 2013, 11:12:15 AM
Well done Cavan.  Who would I like in the next round? Any one but Kildare. We don't need the media circus that would be around that game.

I would love Kildare in the park.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: comeysfield on July 15, 2013, 10:39:25 AM
Not the best draw, not the worst draw. We can approach the game full of confidence now and if we can get a couple of points up it will be one hell of a battle for Derry. Thought Killian Clarke had one hell of a game his running in defence alone a few times where he didn't get the ball to make space for others was worth it. Along with McVitty great that Declan McKiernan got a chance to get rid of the demons. He came on and consistently did simple stuff with the ball and made sure we played it out comfortably. Maybe one of mentors should just stay in the stand is that just a distraction that a team can do without 
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on July 15, 2013, 01:25:09 PM
Quote from: comeysfield on July 15, 2013, 10:39:25 AM
Not the best draw, not the worst draw. We can approach the game full of confidence now and if we can get a couple of points up it will be one hell of a battle for Derry. Thought Killian Clarke had one hell of a game his running in defence alone a few times where he didn't get the ball to make space for others was worth it. Along with McVitty great that Declan McKiernan got a chance to get rid of the demons. He came on and consistently did simple stuff with the ball and made sure we played it out comfortably. Maybe one of mentors should just stay in the stand is that just a distraction that a team can do without

Probably not the wisest thing for Martin to do alright but it shows the passion he has for this group of players. He is a great man to have around a panel, very positive and I wouldn't come down heavy on him for losing his cool on Saturday.
Overall we couldn't ask for much more from this group of lads. The championship campaign has brought us 3 wins which hasn't happened since 2005 and in general Terry has us moving in a steady upwards curve and he has got the Cavan support back behind the Senior team which is a feat in itself.
Derry away will be tough but the lads will give it a good rattle and considering how Westmeath, who gained promotion along with Derry, came undone, Cavan with the same attitude again will have nothing to fear.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: bottom brick on July 15, 2013, 04:18:45 PM
Quote from: boojangles on July 15, 2013, 01:25:09 PM
Quote from: comeysfield on July 15, 2013, 10:39:25 AM
Not the best draw, not the worst draw. We can approach the game full of confidence now and if we can get a couple of points up it will be one hell of a battle for Derry. Thought Killian Clarke had one hell of a game his running in defence alone a few times where he didn't get the ball to make space for others was worth it. Along with McVitty great that Declan McKiernan got a chance to get rid of the demons. He came on and consistently did simple stuff with the ball and made sure we played it out comfortably. Maybe one of mentors should just stay in the stand is that just a distraction that a team can do without

Probably not the wisest thing for Martin to do alright but it shows the passion he has for this group of players. He is a great man to have around a panel, very positive and I wouldn't come down heavy on him for losing his cool on Saturday.
Overall we couldn't ask for much more from this group of lads. The championship campaign has brought us 3 wins which hasn't happened since 2005 and in general Terry has us moving in a steady upwards curve and he has got the Cavan support back behind the Senior team which is a feat in itself.
Derry away will be tough but the lads will give it a good rattle and considering how Westmeath, who gained promotion along with Derry, came undone, Cavan with the same attitude again will have nothing to fear.

+1

Definitely a tough draw but that is to be expected at this stage. I wouldnt read too much into the league either, doesn't count for a whole lot now. I wouldn't be overly confident but I think this team are improving with each game and its certainly no mission impossible.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on July 15, 2013, 07:50:15 PM
First things first yes it is a tough draw but no matter who we got it was going to be tough. However I am going to stick my neck out and say that we can win this game. Derry had a great win the last day but for me they were playing a down team whose season was all about winning an Ulster. Once that was gone they couldnt get up for it. If you remember back to the first Down v Derry game, Derry looked poor enough at the back and were well beaten in midfield. Yes they have probably one of the top 3 forwards in Ulster in Eoin Bradley but we kept Jamie Clarke quiet and we can do the same to Eoin.

Other thing in our favour is the incredible amount of arrogance been shown already by Derry delighted with the easy draw and path to  the final. If a bit of that complacency sneaks in to their thoughts then thats another good thing.

I also think people are fearing Derry based on the team they used to be. They won a poor Div 2 league and while its a good achievement we should not give them too much respect. I think our lads don't have any fear and will give Derry a right good rattle and I wouldnt be suprised if we pipped them. I won't be too disappointed if we are pipped as these lads have put pride back in the county jersey and are a joy to watch.

All roads lead to Derry next Saturday!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on July 15, 2013, 08:09:43 PM
Derry might have won a poor Divison 2 but they were easily the best team in that Divison. A class above Westmeath.. Some very good free scoring players like Eoin Bradley, James Kielt, Ryan Bell,. The midfield was poor the first day against Down but Derry were without McCluskey the regular midfielder he was back the next day.. They have a  Good midfield and a very strong half back line with Charlie Kielt and Mark Lynch. It will be a step up for Cavan but hopefully they can preform. A possible meeting with London is a great incentive for a place in the quarter finals.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Swadman on July 16, 2013, 02:29:34 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on July 15, 2013, 08:09:43 PM
..... Some very good free scoring players like Eoin Bradley, James Kielt, Ryan Bell,. The midfield was poor the first day against Down but Derry were without McCluskey the regular midfielder he was back the next day.... A possible meeting with London is a great incentive for a place in the quarter finals.
The breaking news is that he is out for the Cavan game "PJ is out for the season. That's a massive loss."
This may dent Derrys optimism and hopefully fuel our lads
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: comeysfield on July 16, 2013, 03:09:31 PM
If McCluskey is out that is huge news. That gives us a massive boost we will take everything we get
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on July 16, 2013, 03:28:23 PM
Big loss for Derry, like Gearoid McKiernan was for us before the Championship started. Hopefully Damien Reilly and Givney continue the form from the Fermanagh game.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on July 16, 2013, 07:51:44 PM
Derry have the most dangerous array of forwards we will have faced this year. Our system is there to reduce one on one situations but in terms of man to man marking who do people think will pick up Bradley Kielt and Bell? Bradley will take the most watching, but I don't think it's a job for McLoughlin, he would be completely out muscled. McEnroe could be a better option.

I see Eoin Bradley tweeted today "im so glad cavan arent4 turnning up on sat.well u would think dat by al the crap talked.#toughgame#notthateasy".. Not hugely convincing but we can't be counting on Derry taking us lightly!

I'd be surprised if we beat Derry on Saturday, and I firmly believe our season is a success whether we do or not, but I disagree with people saying that this is the real test of progress, anyone who can't see the progress is blind or has had their heads buried in the sand for the last 5 years. What I do think will be interesting is how the team and management will be react if we go behind by 4+ points (which I suspect we will) Will we come out of ourselves a bit more?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on July 16, 2013, 08:55:50 PM
Derry are probably a better team than us at the moment but we still have a half decent chance. Is there any chance Rory Dunne could be back, he didn't look too mobile on the sideline the last day. I believe Derry and Armagh are of a similar level.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Swadman on July 16, 2013, 09:01:37 PM
Quote from: Westside on July 16, 2013, 07:51:44 PM
I see Eoin Bradley tweeted today "im so glad cavan arent4 turnning up on sat.well u would think dat by al the crap talked.#toughgame#notthateasy".. Not hugely convincing but we can't be counting on Derry taking us lightly!


Bradley nor Derry will be taking Cavan lightly. Both teams will be hugely aware of the prize that awaits and what it will take to get it. Derry will be even tougher, physically, than Monaghan and I felt that we were "bullied" a little in Clones. Cavan can expect their toughest game of the year but if they keep the head and stick to the plan(s) then we could look forward to finishing the county championships in November !!! 
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on July 16, 2013, 09:46:26 PM
Quote from: Westside on July 16, 2013, 07:51:44 PM
Derry have the most dangerous array of forwards we will have faced this year. Our system is there to reduce one on one situations but in terms of man to man marking who do people think will pick up Bradley Kielt and Bell? Bradley will take the most watching, but I don't think it's a job for McLoughlin, he would be completely out muscled. McEnroe could be a better option.

I see Eoin Bradley tweeted today "im so glad cavan arent4 turnning up on sat.well u would think dat by al the crap talked.#toughgame#notthateasy".. Not hugely convincing but we can't be counting on Derry taking us lightly!

I'd be surprised if we beat Derry on Saturday, and I firmly believe our season is a success whether we do or not, but I disagree with people saying that this is the real test of progress, anyone who can't see the progress is blind or has had their heads buried in the sand for the last 5 years. What I do think will be interesting is how the team and management will be react if we go behind by 4+ points (which I suspect we will) Will we come out of ourselves a bit more?

I think people are talking about the opposition, of course progress has been made. Its about seeing how Cavan will fare out against better quality opposition,
Derry are playing Division 1 Football next year and are a better side then anything Cavan will have faced so far.

Cavan won't fear Derry, and are being written off by most in the media, but that won't bother the team or management. Cavan have made huge progress since the Kildare hammering last year - with the recalled players and the younger players having a championship season under their belts.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: The Brick on July 18, 2013, 05:24:49 PM
Did i hear Cian Mackey has picked up an injury?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on July 18, 2013, 05:41:08 PM
Being a ginger ninja like me I believe he is suffering from super sunburn.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on July 18, 2013, 05:50:51 PM
Quote from: The Brick on July 18, 2013, 05:24:49 PM
Did i hear Cian Mackey has picked up an injury?

Why you asking here you should know what you hear.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on July 18, 2013, 06:57:37 PM
Quote from: tommysmith on July 18, 2013, 05:50:51 PM
Quote from: The Brick on July 18, 2013, 05:24:49 PM
Did i hear Cian Mackey has picked up an injury?

Why you asking here you should know what you hear.


What have you heard Tommy? Is Dermot McCabe likely to line out?? ;)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on July 18, 2013, 07:59:58 PM
Quote from: anglocelt39 on July 18, 2013, 06:57:37 PM
Quote from: tommysmith on July 18, 2013, 05:50:51 PM
Quote from: The Brick on July 18, 2013, 05:24:49 PM
Did i hear Cian Mackey has picked up an injury?

Why you asking here you should know what you hear.


What have you heard Tommy? Is Dermot McCabe likely to line out?? ;)
haha  :-\
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: The Brick on July 19, 2013, 03:16:57 PM
So the word about is..
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on July 19, 2013, 03:39:07 PM
Quote from: The Brick on July 19, 2013, 03:16:57 PM
So the word about is..

Well word is that Michael Duffy has suspended Anthony Forde so he will play no part in the match (he was set to be man marking Eoin Bradley). Jason Reilly has been recalled because he likes playing against Derry and Larry is also back as means to hop the ball 3 times in a row and get away with it. Cian Mackey is out with blisters from running too fast. Givney jumped too high against Fermanagh and there is a race against time to pull him back down from the stratosphere.

Conor Gilsenan has been doing a lot of speed training this week so watch out.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Swadman on July 19, 2013, 08:18:28 PM
Quote
Well word is that Michael Duffy has suspended Anthony Forde so he will play no part in the match (he was set to be man marking Eoin Bradley). Jason Reilly has been recalled because he likes playing against Derry and Larry is also back as means to hop the ball 3 times in a row and get away with it. Cian Mackey is out with blisters from running too fast. Givney jumped too high against Fermanagh and there is a race against time to pull him back down from the stratosphere.

I blame the heat  8) ;D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on July 19, 2013, 09:14:06 PM
Same team named to start that was named last week except o Mara in for gilsenan
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on July 19, 2013, 09:56:46 PM
O Meara has the best kick out in terms of accuracy and he will be able to pick out the short ones too. We do lose the ability to kick the 45's over the bar though. Good luck to  the lads tomorrow.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: The Brick on July 20, 2013, 12:27:06 PM
Looks like that speed work gilsenan has been doing hasn't been too beneficial for him lol
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on July 20, 2013, 11:13:32 PM
Well what a day and what a game. Without doubt the best display by a Cavan team since '97 final. Time and time again Derry asked the questions and our young lads kept giving them the answer. No more will Cavan lie down and accept the heart breaking defeat after a brave battle. There were so many heroes on that field today its hard to know where to start. Givney was lording the midfield until he got injured no matter young McVitty comes on and Argue and do their bit. Then Martin Reilly hits a purple patch with some brilliant scores and selfless work rate, Flanagans bust a gut to get back and make the tackles and the blocks. In extra time we had Mckeever using all his experience and setting up the goal - he played like a man possessed - that is how you react to not starting matches. In the end it was our players that asked the questions of Derry and in extra time Derry ran out of answers. I doubt there will be many better games of ball this summer and it was an absolute privilege to be there to watch it. Well done to heroes in blue!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on July 20, 2013, 11:48:52 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on July 20, 2013, 11:13:32 PM
Well what a day and what a game. Without doubt the best display by a Cavan team since '97 final. Time and time again Derry asked the questions and our young lads kept giving them the answer. No more will Cavan lie down and accept the heart breaking defeat after a brave battle. There were so many heroes on that field today its hard to know where to start. Givney was lording the midfield until he got injured no matter young McVitty comes on and Argue and do their bit. Then Martin Reilly hits a purple patch with some brilliant scores and selfless work rate, Flanagans bust a gut to get back and make the tackles and the blocks. In extra time we had Mckeever using all his experience and setting up the goal - he played like a man possessed - that is how you react to not starting matches. In the end it was our players that asked the questions of Derry and in extra time Derry ran out of answers. I doubt there will be many better games of ball this summer and it was an absolute privilege to be there to watch it. Well done to heroes in blue!

McVeety and Argue both with two points, fantastic to see. Did Givney come back on and make a huge catch at the end? I have a feeling I saw a tweet to that effect in the rush towards the end.
At the end of the game we were playing without Clarke, Givney, Dunne, Mackey, McDermott, McLoughlin. That's 6 of our starting team, and we still dug it out. That's a panel, that's spirit.

We'll enjoy the after game glow. Can't wait for The Sunday Game. They might actually sit up and give us some credit now. They can't attribute the win to the opposition tactics, moan about the quality of football, focus solely on any off the ball rows. And if they do decide to talk about penalties not awarded or whatever else, then let them at it. This is our night and we'll enjoy it.

We look to London (almost certainly) Crucial nobody takes them for granted even slightly. No doubt Terry will have them well prepared mentally.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on July 21, 2013, 08:29:15 AM
Yeh gibney made a huge catch , I think he was only back on the field about 10 seconds so hopefully his injury is not too bad. I think Cavan used everyone on the bench bar the sub keeper (farrelly I think). Brilliant win and what a chance to make the last 8.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on July 21, 2013, 08:42:55 AM
Quote from: Itchy on July 21, 2013, 08:29:15 AM
Yeh gibney made a huge catch , I think he was only back on the field about 10 seconds so hopefully his injury is not too bad. I think Cavan used everyone on the bench bar the sub keeper (farrelly I think). Brilliant win and what a chance to make the last 8.

I heard it was a lad from Gowna,  David Hyland?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on July 21, 2013, 08:47:02 AM
Maybe, I was guessing really as I couldn't get a close look. Good call on Argue Tommy :)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on July 21, 2013, 08:50:47 AM
Quote from: Itchy on July 21, 2013, 08:47:02 AM
Maybe, I was guessing really as I couldn't get a close look. Good call on Argue Tommy :)

I has just heard he was training with them, he made a big difference when he came on.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on July 21, 2013, 09:01:05 AM
He is some size. Not often you see a lad jump up at throw in and catch ball clean a foot above everyone. I thought McKeever was excellent too. Has he been injured or what is the story? Hyland was clever bringing in a few older heads in extra time when it was in the melting pot. I think management has been very good this year.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on July 21, 2013, 09:10:35 AM
It was good to see all the lads that came on have an impact i though McVitty was outstanding and looked so comfortable out there he wasn't fazed one bit.   

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on July 21, 2013, 09:18:10 AM
Exactly, mcvitty has the head of an experienced player. He can be a huge player for us.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on July 21, 2013, 09:27:19 AM
Another thing that was very important yesterday was the Cavan Support i haven't seen anything like that at a Cavan Senior game in a long time. The numbers may not have been that big but everyone there really got behind the lads.


Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on July 21, 2013, 09:30:20 AM
More Cavan than Derry I thought. There was an incredible atmosphere. I thought it was gone but what a score by Damian Reilly to pull it level.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on July 21, 2013, 09:34:26 AM
Quote from: Itchy on July 21, 2013, 09:01:05 AM
He is some size. Not often you see a lad jump up at throw in and catch ball clean a foot above everyone. I thought McKeever was excellent too. Has he been injured or what is the story? Hyland was clever bringing in a few older heads in extra time when it was in the melting pot. I think management has been very good this year.

Was McKeever not the only old head that came on?

I was shocked to see Argue coming on but delighted to hear he did well. And fair play to McVeety, couldn't nail down a starting place on the 2011 Minor team and 2 years later he has been a key player on an Ulster winning U21 panel and is playing towards the business end of the back door.

The bandwagon will start about rightly now lads! I expect a massive crowd at the London/Mayo game next weekend.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on July 21, 2013, 09:38:47 AM
I wonder where the game will be in don't think it will be any further than 1.5 hours from Cavan and wont be in Croker on Saturday anyway.  Clones or Mullingar>?

Edit : i wouldn't even rule out it been in the Park if London/Mayo agree to it the GAA will want to play this where they will get the biggest gate.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on July 21, 2013, 09:47:46 AM
Brilliant win and performance. Mckeever was very hungry when he came on and obviously keen to make a statement. It was looking bad losing Givney, and then Mackey and Dunne went off. But Cavan showed great spirit and didn't give up. Were easily the better team in extra time.

McVeety has been playing great stuff for Crosserlough this year and last year, and its no surprise that he has been drafted into the Senior panel. Outstanding with the u21's earlier in the year.

Navan is where it should be played, suit London coming from Dublin Airport. ???
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on July 21, 2013, 09:50:54 AM
Possibly in Navan but with Meath playing in Croke Park on saturday it would have to be Sunday.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on July 21, 2013, 09:51:30 AM
I thought maybe Longford or Mullingar myself? I assume there's no chance they'd have a 3 O'Clock throw in on Saturday in Croker with two more games on after that..

Really hope the Sunday game give us a decent slot tonight. It was sickening that there were lads in New York and Australia watching the game live and those of us in Ireland who couldn't make it had no way of watching!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on July 21, 2013, 09:54:18 AM
Quote from: Westside on July 21, 2013, 09:51:30 AM
I thought maybe Longford or Mullingar myself? I assume there's no chance they'd have a 3 O'Clock throw in on Saturday in Croker with two more games on after that..

Really hope the Sunday game give us a decent slot tonight. It was sickening that there were lads in New York and Australia watching the game live and those of us in Ireland who couldn't make it had no way of watching!

If it was on tv somewhere the chances are that there was a live stream available.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on July 21, 2013, 09:58:02 AM
Westside - McKeever was put on but Mackey and Givney were also re introduced.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on July 21, 2013, 10:06:56 AM
Fair play to Terry and the management, sounds like they played it just right yesterday.

Believe me tommy I searched up and down for one! Links to Setanta Australia were either dead or to the wrong channel. Seems these streaming websites don't care much when it's Cavan.... Anyway not a hope I'm missing the next game work or no work.

Who would ye pick for Man of the Match lads? Martin Reilly seems to be getting a lot of plaudits?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on July 21, 2013, 10:11:17 AM
Martin Reilly was class but Every man was top of their game.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on July 21, 2013, 10:27:29 AM
MOM had to be Martin Reilly but Ronan Flanagan was a close second. Very important that London are not taken for granted. The team should all be shown a video of that Waterford game in Breffni when Keogan was manager. Anything other than the same attitude leaves you open to a sucker punch. I'm sure Terry and the team will not allow that to happen.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on July 21, 2013, 10:53:59 AM
Great to see Ronan and Martin putting in great performances,they get some unwarranted stick from some Cavan fans but they give their all for Cavan and deserve praise.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on July 21, 2013, 11:07:05 AM
Quote from: rodney trotter on July 21, 2013, 10:53:59 AM
Great to see Ronan and Martin putting in great performances,they get some unwarranted stick from some Cavan fans but they give their all for Cavan and deserve praise.

I was one of Ronans biggest critics but he is having some championship.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on July 22, 2013, 12:23:41 AM
Good win for the U16's in the First round of the Gerry Reilly, beat Meath 2-12 to 1-14.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on July 22, 2013, 11:01:03 AM
Great to see extensive highlight of the game last night.  Great scores from both teams and it was good to see Cavan triumphing under adversity when Derry got their last minute leading point at the end of normal time.

Hope we don't see extensive highlights of the next game as that would mean London gave us a scare/beat us.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on July 22, 2013, 11:34:52 AM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on July 21, 2013, 10:27:29 AM
MOM had to be Martin Reilly but Ronan Flanagan was a close second. Very important that London are not taken for granted. The team should all be shown a video of that Waterford game in Breffni when Keogan was manager. Anything other than the same attitude leaves you open to a sucker punch. I'm sure Terry and the team will not allow that to happen.

Mc Elkannon was the boss that day Myles.

By all accounts Saturday in Celtic Park will live long in the memory of all true Cavan supporters who have seen more bad days than good over the years. The diehards who have followed Cavan through thick and thin deserve displays and results like Saturday. They finally have a Senior team to be truly proud of. Onwards and upwards. The future is definitely blue.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on July 22, 2013, 12:00:42 PM
3pm Sat in Croke Park?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on July 22, 2013, 01:00:56 PM
Yeah 3pm at Croker Saturday, first of a triple header. Great for Mackey and co to display their skills at the biggest stage of all. Hopefully 2 visits to Headquarters now.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: comeysfield on July 22, 2013, 06:49:03 PM
Onwards and upwards  8)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on July 22, 2013, 08:25:17 PM
Quinns for 11am on Saturday then lads?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on July 22, 2013, 09:38:56 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on July 22, 2013, 08:25:17 PM
Quinns for 11am on Saturday then lads?

Indeed get the spuds into the system at 9am to get them out of the way....
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on July 23, 2013, 09:53:23 PM
She is up on youtube now

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-_Pdyz7VpE

Argue made some contribution in extra time. Turning over Bradley, then getting into the box and hitting the post before Mackey scored and then winning one a few mins later and knocking over himself. Very impressive for a young lad. Look forward to seeing a bit more of him at senior level but I suppose he should be eased in as a sub. Corr and Givney still the two for me in the middle.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on July 24, 2013, 11:13:39 AM
Its almost August and we're still involved in the Championship.  Cool.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: whats my name on July 24, 2013, 09:20:05 PM
the full cavan derry game is on setanta tonight at 11 if anyone has it
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on July 24, 2013, 09:23:44 PM
Cavan 2.12 Longford 4.4

Fr manning cup today in longford
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on July 24, 2013, 10:09:41 PM
Very strong u16 team this year, good to see them back playing in the Gerry Reilly Cup and the Fr Manning Cp. They opted out for the past 3/4 years.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on July 25, 2013, 08:57:07 PM
Got into a conversation at work today with various Dublin, Mayo and Kerry heads and let the guard down badly when the started asking me who I was hoping for in the Quarter Finals. Suddenly getting a fierce queasy feeling about Saturday which will only get worse come 3 bells on the day. Anybody else feel the same way? Win by whatever margin and it was expected any other result doesnt bear thinking about.

Going to make the same mistake again now and say that IF we get over London I have this strong feeling it will be the mushroom pickers again. The one I would want to avoid would be the Dubs. That lot getting a jump on us at Croke Park with a full hill making noise could have an ugly ending. Monaghan could be sitting ducks in the Quarters, bring the Anglo Celt Cup on a tour of the County may backfire on them in terms of mental preparation.

Understand Gilsenan is out and they are watching McLoughlin and McDermott for fitness.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on July 25, 2013, 11:10:48 PM
Christ AC39 you have me worried now too!! We can't lose to them.. Surely we will get over the line somehow.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on July 25, 2013, 11:15:25 PM
Quote from: Westside on July 25, 2013, 11:10:48 PM
Christ AC39 you have me worried now too!! We can't lose to them.. Surely we will get over the line somehow.

Best bit though was that young Kerry buck who told me with a dead straight face that Cavan have to be serious contenders for Sam this year. Those boys become cute hoors about three minutes before they are conceived.

It's ok Westside we'll get there Saturday this seems to be the most focused/properly run squad of lads that have lined out for Cavan for manys the year. London seem to be having enough of a task in actually getting their squad over to Dublin in one coherent piece if you are to believe everything you read.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on July 25, 2013, 11:31:31 PM
Indeed, they are flying over in dribs and drabs. Might end up with us in Quinns.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on July 25, 2013, 11:58:50 PM
The London born chap at Number 2 for the exiles looks like he could be exposed badly. Keating could make hay.

I sincerely hope that any of our lads won't decide that they could get themselves a headline and start trying to win the game on their own.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on July 26, 2013, 12:06:03 AM
Yeah, he was badly exposed against Mayo. Looked like a fella that was playing his first ever Gaelic Match.

The London defence in general doesn't look hectic. I think they will struggle with the pace Cavan have in the forward line, especially in the wide Spaces of Croke Park.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on July 26, 2013, 09:09:15 AM
McStay hedging his bets on the radio this morning, tips us to win for the first time in the championship this year but reckons London will keep it within the betting handicap (they are plus 11 it seems). If tomorrow is a day when goals come into it might we see Kevin Tierney get a bit more game time than usual.

For what its worth McStay them got off the fence and tipped Donegal, Cork and Tyrone in the others.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on July 26, 2013, 10:28:48 AM
There is only one thing of concern for this match and that is if cavan turn up with their heads right, i.e. they approach the game in the same way they have approached every other game this year. IF they do then Cavan will win and win comfortably. If they do not then they could get a scare and I suppose it is not impossible that they could get worse than a scare.

I think we have just much better footballers, fitness and pace than London on the big pitch in Croke park.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on July 26, 2013, 10:36:58 AM
I don't think there is any chance Cavan will turn up thinking the game is won. Cavan are in bonus territory now, and will be taking London as Serious, as Derry the previous week. They are a very focused outfit.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on July 26, 2013, 08:36:26 PM
Good luck to the squad tomorrow. I'm looking forward to see a Cavan win in croke park all going well.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on July 26, 2013, 10:00:29 PM
Same team named that started against Derry.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on July 27, 2013, 12:14:01 AM
Niall McDermott hard done by IMO. If Jack Brady's performances were judged objectively and he wasn't Jack Brady I don't think he'd be starting tomorrow ahead of McDermott if he's fit.

Buzzing for tomorrow cannot wait.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on July 27, 2013, 07:03:34 AM
McDermott is still carrying a knock, no point risking him.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BigMac on July 27, 2013, 08:47:11 AM
I was just wondering when the last time a Cavan senior mens team won a game in Croke Park? I know we lost a league final there in I think 2007, and lost to Kerry in 1997, so when did we last win there?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on July 27, 2013, 09:53:33 AM
2007 was a semi final. Someone said grounds tournament in the 80's, before my time
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on July 27, 2013, 10:34:32 AM
Quote from: Westside on July 27, 2013, 12:14:01 AM
Niall McDermott hard done by IMO. If Jack Brady's performances were judged objectively and he wasn't Jack Brady I don't think he'd be starting tomorrow ahead of McDermott if he's fit.

Buzzing for tomorrow cannot wait.

McDermott got a hard knock against Fermanagh was taken off , wasn't togged out against Derry. Don't see what the problem is there.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on July 27, 2013, 10:58:00 AM
He was concussed so I assumed that's why he missed out against Derry. I'm just saying that if he's fit he deserves to be starting, in my opinion. No harm to Jack, fantastic footballer but he hasn't been at his best.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on July 27, 2013, 11:40:31 AM
Quote from: Itchy on July 27, 2013, 09:53:33 AM
2007 was a semi final. Someone said grounds tournament in the 80's, before my time


Sad to say it but I reckon the last time Cavan won a championship game in Croker was the 1952 All Ireland Replay when Mick Higgins kicked a rake of points against Meath. Continuing the ancient history lesson Cavan/Down contested 8 Ulster Finals between about 1958 and 1969 winning 4 each. Down took three All Irelands from that we didn't make a single All Ireland Final. Grounds tournament dates back to the 1960's and it's even sadder to say that I can sort of remember bits of that. Four All Ireland Semi finalists played each other in differing draw from All Ireland Series I think, semi final and final.

More importantly best of luck to all today and hope we can dig out the result. We are totally in bonus territory after last Saturday so lets enjoy the rest of the journey.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on July 27, 2013, 11:03:50 PM
Quote from: Westside on July 27, 2013, 10:58:00 AM
He was concussed so I assumed that's why he missed out against Derry. I'm just saying that if he's fit he deserves to be starting, in my opinion. No harm to Jack, fantastic footballer but he hasn't been at his best.

He seems to be afraid to shoot.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on July 27, 2013, 11:09:31 PM
Quote from: tommysmith on July 27, 2013, 11:03:50 PM
Quote from: Westside on July 27, 2013, 10:58:00 AM
He was concussed so I assumed that's why he missed out against Derry. I'm just saying that if he's fit he deserves to be starting, in my opinion. No harm to Jack, fantastic footballer but he hasn't been at his best.

He seems to be afraid to shoot.

Seems to be a symptom of our half forward line. Even Martin Reilly coming off the back of an excellent shooting display didn't seem keen to have a go. Flanagan too.

Keating is a great ball winner but once again, a very poor shooting display. I thought Ronan Flanagan's passing today was fantastic.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on July 27, 2013, 11:20:18 PM
Quote from: Westside on July 27, 2013, 11:09:31 PM
Quote from: tommysmith on July 27, 2013, 11:03:50 PM
Quote from: Westside on July 27, 2013, 10:58:00 AM
He was concussed so I assumed that's why he missed out against Derry. I'm just saying that if he's fit he deserves to be starting, in my opinion. No harm to Jack, fantastic footballer but he hasn't been at his best.

He seems to be afraid to shoot.

Seems to be a symptom of our half forward line. Even Martin Reilly coming off the back of an excellent shooting display didn't seem keen to have a go. Flanagan too.

Keating is a great ball winner but once again, a very poor shooting display. I thought Ronan Flanagan's passing today was fantastic.
Flanagan kicked two points i don't think Jack even had a attempt. Was disappointed with Martin Reilly.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on July 27, 2013, 11:28:38 PM
I meant Ronan Flanagan, don't think he scored at all?

I think the game felt the absence of London support.. We will hopefully match or outnumber Kerry support next Sunday and Donegal and Mayo will bring big crowds too. Let's hope we're still in the game by the time they arrive!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Swadman on July 28, 2013, 06:13:44 PM
Quote from: Westside on July 27, 2013, 11:28:38 PM
... We will hopefully match or outnumber Kerry support next Sunday and Donegal and Mayo will bring big crowds too. Let's hope we're still in the game by the time they arrive!

Ahh Cheer up lads, its only Kerry
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kYNeemPlgUg
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on July 28, 2013, 08:10:51 PM
I would be fearful enough of what might happen next Sunday.

Whats the feeling with you guys?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on July 28, 2013, 08:14:45 PM
As if you needed to attend Croke Park next Sunday.

August 4th Cavan v Kerry 2-00pm TV3    Mayo v Donegal 4-00pm TV3

Tough assignment but at least we are there. 
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on July 28, 2013, 08:30:34 PM
Nothing beats being there, would rather see them play even if they take a hiding, then watch it on Tv3. Great for fans who can't make the match to watch it live.

No pressure on Cavan as the bookies aren't giving us a hope or the media. Hopefully they can give a good account of themselves whatever happens..
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on July 28, 2013, 08:33:27 PM
I wasn't impressed with Kerry in the munster final but they are still a class team that have been at the top for a long time. If they come out on top of their game we will not win. However, I think they will under estimate us and if we can get a foothold in the game and keep it tight then who knows. Most important thing is that the lads learn from the experience.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: gortnaleck on July 28, 2013, 08:51:01 PM
I think it's the best draw we could have got. I didn't say the easiest now,but who
wants to see them playing Monaghan again, the Dubs are scary and Mayo are a very confident team
who could give you a good beating. Terry seems to always have them in th right frame
of mind so I'm looking forward to them giving it a good lash on Sunday. I would like them to
leave Donaghy on the bench again. They didn't give away as many frees
either against London which was good and I'm expecting a fresher Cavan team
next weekend.Either way they've given us a great year
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on July 28, 2013, 09:03:04 PM
Would agree about not playing Monaghan again, the hype and everything else that went with the last game.
I think if Cavan had of got those couple of early goals yesterday through Mackey and Jack Brady. The game would have been over, and they afforded to take a few lads off at half time.

Kerry have lads like Tomas O Se who is 35, O Mahony, Galvin. Hardly youngsters but lots of experience. Hopefully they will take Cavan for granted. They still have a good bench, with Sheehan, David Moran, Donaghy if he doesn't start.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on July 28, 2013, 09:08:56 PM
Quote from: tommysmith on July 28, 2013, 08:10:51 PM
I would be fearful enough of what might happen next Sunday.

Whats the feeling with you guys?


Not sure until I get the inside story from yourself Tommy ;D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on July 29, 2013, 12:08:15 AM
Delighted to avoid Monaghan and Dublin. We're going in under the radar, nobody is taking us in the slightest bit seriously and now, doubly so, given that we didn't put London away until quite late. Perfect way to be going into an All-Ireland quarter-final, all the pressure is on the opposition and so we will have a really quiet buildup.

I think we will give Kerry a game. Nobody beats Cavan by too much and if it's tight going into the last few minutes, would Cavan's fresher legs win out over Kerry's experience?  :P

To be honest I am not going to waste too much time analysing it in my head beforehand, this is bonus territory now and we have already put a huge building block in place for 2014 and 2015 so I am basically just looking forward to a day out in the big house free of pressure and expectation. Hopefully we get a tight game and a performance that sends us into the next season with enhanced credentials and another wee step taken on the road.

Anything more than that and I'll stage dive off the top deck of the Hogan and marry Susan Boyle.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on July 29, 2013, 06:08:29 PM
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Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on July 29, 2013, 07:48:20 PM
My first chance to make my opinion known on the London game. We looked good at the start, controlled and knocking over the scores but then I think complacency snuck in and we started believing our own hype. We got casual and sloppy and when London got themselves back into the game we struggled to get back up the gears again. Tired legs were also evident and tired minds maybe too. Credit to London as they had a good system in place and if it werent for O Mearas excellent kick outs we would have been behind at half time. I expected an improvement after terry got them in the dressing room but instead it was more of the same for 10 minutes, indeed we had a few tight escapes. Eventually we got a few scores with Givney exerting som influence and when the fresh speedy legs of Mcvitty were added then the pendulum firmly swung in our favour. What a old head on young shoulders mcVitty has. Still the save from o Meara and then resulting goal from the counter attack shows just how tight the margins for success are.

Saying all that I have to say in terms of the Kerry game the game couldn't have went much better. We  looked poor and Kerry, well they are Kerry. No one expects us to even contest and I bet there will be lots of motivational feed for the players in the media this week. Hopefully some Kerry great or the other comes out and makes some disrespectful statement.

So next day in our favour is the fact we have no pressure/expectations, we are battle hardened, Kerry have barely played a game this year yet and looked fairly ordinary (by their standards) against Cork for long periods. However against us is team full of all stars, vast experience and over familiar with winning at Croke park. They have been hiding in the long grass. I just hope they take us for granted.

To win the game I think we need to return to the tactic we used against Armagh. We have opened up a little in the Derry and London games, now is the time to shut up shop a little. We may need to look at an extra defender instead of a forward. We need to start well and try and get a few scores ahead and fight hard for every scrap. We need to get our match ups right. Gooch will most likely be on the 40. Sheehan will almost certainly start for the frees as they will have seen we concede a fair few and this man will knock them over from 50 meters. We must be disciplined in the tackle.

Lets hope the lads give the best account of themselves that they can and it just may be enough for a huge shock.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on July 29, 2013, 08:35:56 PM
Some w**ker in the indo called David Kelly wrote this, the inspiration you are talking about Myles?

Clearly, to have any chance of beating Kerry, Cavan would probably need the fixture to be restaged in New York after inveigling Gooch and Co to decamp to a few Manhattan nightspots en route.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on July 29, 2013, 09:08:06 PM
Wouldn't care what anyone says in the Indo, they are just going on by what they saw in Croker Saturday. Cavan were playing a Divison 4 team and were probably brought down to that level with the errors they were making. Complacency was a factor too.
The game should have been over after ten minutes, 6-1 up and 2 missed goal chances.

Cavan didn't help things by not being more direct at times, similar to the U-21's against Cork.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: armaghniac on July 29, 2013, 09:32:24 PM
QuoteTo win the game I think we need to return to the tactic we used against Armagh. We have opened up a little in the Derry and London games, now is the time to shut up shop a little. We may need to look at an extra defender instead of a forward. We need to start well and try and get a few scores ahead and fight hard for every scrap. We need to get our match ups right. Gooch will most likely be on the 40. Sheehan will almost certainly start for the frees as they will have seen we concede a fair few and this man will knock them over from 50 meters. We must be disciplined in the tackle.

Cavan's best chance is to keep the score down and wtay within sight of Kerry and then push up near the end of the game. Kerry wilted a bit against Cork near then end and Cavan have nothing to lose going for it in the last 10 minutes.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tierworker blue on July 29, 2013, 11:49:39 PM
The Hill isn't open on Sunday?! Ah feck...we'd have packed it, and I was getting all nostalgic about experiencing that '97 feeling all over again!  :'(
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on July 30, 2013, 09:07:58 AM
Hill tickets on sale now on gaa.ie.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tierworker blue on July 30, 2013, 09:46:53 PM
Quote from: Itchy on July 30, 2013, 09:07:58 AM
Hill tickets on sale now on gaa.ie.

Cheers pal...6 Hill tickets in the back pocket now, and more to follow! There was confusion as to whether it was open or not (I was even told they 'weren't sure' on the official gaa ticket line this morning!) and lots of people still don't know the story! The left hand often doesn't know what the right hand is doing, eh?!  :o
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Swadman on July 30, 2013, 11:43:42 PM
Quote from: tierworker blue on July 30, 2013, 09:46:53 PM
Quote from: Itchy on July 30, 2013, 09:07:58 AM
Hill tickets on sale now on gaa.ie.

The last time Cavan played 2 championship games in the one year in Croker was 1969
I was there in my short trousers. It pissed rain, we drew with Offaly, they won the replay with the great Tony McTaigue and Kerry bet them in the final.
But I mostly remember standing in the Canal End (Davin now) and hardly being able to see through crowds and the rain washing the colour out of my cap and down my face.
Gosuns now will have better memories, although its amazing how many times over the lean years I have recalled that day.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on July 31, 2013, 09:03:36 PM
This is something like players who will start on Sunday IMO

1. Alan O'Mara
2. Jason McLaughlin
3. Rory Dunne
4. Killian Clarke
5. James McEnroe
6. Alan Clarke
7. Ronan Flanagan
8. Tomas Corr/Damien O'Reilly
9. David Givney
10. Cian Mackey
11. Jack Brady / Niall McDermott / Damien O'Reilly
12. Fergal Flanagan
13. Martin Reilly
14. Martin Dunne
15. Eugene Keating

I don't have a f**king notion lol
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on July 31, 2013, 09:13:52 PM
Heard Ger Pierson was called..
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on July 31, 2013, 09:20:22 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on July 31, 2013, 09:13:52 PM
Heard Ger Pierson was called..

For Jury Duty?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on July 31, 2013, 09:20:30 PM
Butt Connolly and Anthony Gaynor flying in training
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on July 31, 2013, 09:23:47 PM
Well I think it will be this...
O Mara
Mcloughlin
Dunne
K Clarke
R Flanagan
A Clarke
D Reilly
Corr
Givney
F Flanagan
McDermott
Gunner/Mcvitty
Dunne
Keating
Mackey

Obviously not lining out like this. Dunne & Keating left up front. McDermott link man. Everyone else deep. Extra defender so jack & m Reilly miss out.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on July 31, 2013, 09:26:53 PM
Quote from: Itchy on July 31, 2013, 09:23:47 PM
Well I think it will be this...
O Mara
Mcloughlin
Dunne
K Clarke
R Flanagan
A Clarke
D Reilly
Corr
Givney
F Flanagan
McDermott
Gunner/Mcvitty
Dunne
Keating
Mackey

Obviously not lining out like this. Dunne & Keating left up front. McDermott link man. Everyone else deep. Extra defender so jack & m Reilly miss out.

I would hope if it was like that it would be McVitty as he would give a bit of cut on counter attacks.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on July 31, 2013, 09:45:32 PM
They have a good midfield in Johnny Buckley and Anthony Maher, faded out a bit against Cork - when they probably felt the game was won. They are not in the older age bracket like some of the other Kerry players, and whatever chance Cavan have, they need to be doing well at midfield.. Galvin is a great player to win breaks too.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on August 01, 2013, 09:57:25 AM
Actually where I put "gunner/mcvitty" I should have put McEnroe, assuming he is fit (he looked wrecked the last day). We've good options on the bench then. Second thoughts maybe I'm being too defensive!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on August 01, 2013, 06:29:56 PM
This game is being built up to such a massive occasion..

http://www.gaa.ie/gaa-news-and-videos/daily-news/1/0108131541-cavan-v-kerry-a-journey-of-hope/?utm_source=dlvr.it

Brilliant piece hear, getting all emotional!

Terry's biggest challenge for Sunday might not be how to approach Kerry's 15 players but how to get our lads to play the game and not the occasion.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on August 01, 2013, 08:04:42 PM
Quote from: Westside on August 01, 2013, 06:29:56 PM
This game is being built up to such a massive occasion..

http://www.gaa.ie/gaa-news-and-videos/daily-news/1/0108131541-cavan-v-kerry-a-journey-of-hope/?utm_source=dlvr.it

Brilliant piece hear, getting all emotional!

Terry's biggest challenge for Sunday might not be how to approach Kerry's 15 players but how to get our lads to play the game and not the occasion.

Superb piece there. Its sad to think how such a legend like John Joe O Reilly died at only 34. Of course PJ Duke died in 1950 too only aged 25 and in his prime. Tragedy was never far from that team, if i recall correctly parallels were drawn between them and the grief in Tyrone when Cormac McAnallen sadly died. We should never forget the great men who went before and served Cavan so well.

Now, I am getting worried about the hype. It appears Cavan people have gone clean mad. There are Youtube collages, songs etc. I know it is great that all these people are coming back out supporting the team for the first time since 97 (sneaky dig delivered) but it bound to get to the players if this keeps up. Kerry have done it all before and you can be sure no one is batting an eyelid about this match in the Kingdom.

In the piece above it is interesting to read what mcHugh said about the 97 team and how he knew the occasion was too big for some of them. The hype is now like an out of control juggernaut and it will build to a finale Sunday at 2pm, I hope all our lads are as ready for it as they can be.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on August 01, 2013, 08:22:37 PM
Kerry will blow Cavan away like they did to Cork in the first half, if the players aren't 100% tuned and more happy to be playing in a huge occasion. It's just another game for them, and they will be eager to get Sam back, a flukey Donegal goal from a side line ball was the difference last year in the Quarter Final. Kerry also lost Declan O Sullivan and Cooper in that game through injury.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on August 01, 2013, 08:58:06 PM
I thought that was a funny statement from McHugh.. Standing on the sideline before the game even began, and already McHugh thought the occasion was too big?! We were leading at half time for God's sake. He's gone on to ruin the appreciation Cavan folk have had for him..

Things have gone mad but would you have it any other way?... This is who we are and that won't change. Better this than be like Cork with a few hundred supporters at a big game in Croke Park.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on August 01, 2013, 09:20:12 PM
There is nothing wrong with hype from Fans. How players react to it on the pitch is what matters.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on August 01, 2013, 09:24:09 PM
Quote from: Westside on August 01, 2013, 08:58:06 PM
I thought that was a funny statement from McHugh.. Standing on the sideline before the game even began, and already McHugh thought the occasion was too big?! We were leading at half time for God's sake. He's gone on to ruin the appreciation Cavan folk have had for him..

Things have gone mad but would you have it any other way?... This is who we are and that won't change. Better this than be like Cork with a few hundred supporters at a big game in Croke Park.

I think McHugh is talking in hindsight to be fair. I remember the game pretty well and one thing I took from it on the day was all the unforced mistakes we made with hand passes and the short game we played. Nerves were a huge issue that day so I suppose the occasion did get to some.

Would I have the current thing any other way, well yes I agree it is good to have interest in Cavan GAA again but I think it has gone over the top completely and could do with being toned down. I'm not sure what the "this is who we are remark means". There is a real possibility that this stuff could get to the players and that's what I am afraid off.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on August 01, 2013, 09:29:56 PM
When I say this is who we are I mean that football is a huge in Cavan and any time we get to an All Ireland Quarter Final it's going to be a huge deal, it won't tone down so we should just enjoy the ride and hope the players can have their heads right on the day.

Any sign of a team?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on August 01, 2013, 09:50:14 PM
Quote from: Westside on August 01, 2013, 09:29:56 PM
When I say this is who we are I mean that football is a huge in Cavan and any time we get to an All Ireland Quarter Final it's going to be a huge deal, it won't tone down so we should just enjoy the ride and hope the players can have their heads right on the day.

Any sign of a team?

I find it hard to enjoy, I'm too frigging nervous myself. The only enjoyment I get from football is between when the final whistle is blown on a win and before the draw for the next round is made! I should take up something less stressful.

I keep swaying my opinion on this match, one minute I think Kerry will hammer us the next I am asking myself what the hell have kerry done this year that makes them so bloody great. At the moment I give us a decent chance but the game will have to pan out in a certain way, mainly us not letting them get a run on us. Getting that ball in our hands early on whether from short kick outs or whatever is critical.

No team yet to the best of my knowledge. I'd say what is named will start as Terry is straight that way and has only changed teams from the listing when there are injuries involved.

Anyone know is barry reilly still with the wider panel?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on August 01, 2013, 10:00:17 PM
The hype is nothing like 97 which went on for three weeks between winning Ulster and going up to Croker, it's a one week wonder this time with lads who maybe are quite well equipped for this sort of thing with all the development panel and under 21 stuff. Personally think Monaghan are sitting ducks for an ambush by Tyrone because their situation with winning Ulster and bringing the Anglo Celt cup on a tour of the county sounds like our 97 situation. Not ideal preparation.

Lads on the telly tonight had it down to a T I think, Kerry are sitting back taking the wider picture in and liking what they see, Not a word of being Sam contenders and facing a Q Final in which they will fancy their chances
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on August 01, 2013, 10:08:46 PM
Barry Reilly was with the team in Derry and I think in Croker. Was good to see Gearoid was there with the team on Saturday (what we'd give to have him lining out on Sunday). Saw Dermot Sheridan floating around the line too.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on August 01, 2013, 10:12:44 PM
Barry Reilly has been done down by injury for the past several weeks I hear. One of many lads who should be pushing for a start next year if he gets injury free. I'm also glad to hear of a fella like Dermot Sheridan knocking around. There's any number of lads aged 25 and upwards in the county who should be looking at what Mackey and Flanagan have done so far this year and I'd have him as one of them. Anyway that's for another day when this current run comes to an end, whenever that may be.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on August 01, 2013, 10:18:15 PM
Sheridan was named in the Original panel before Christmas but has been plagued with Injuries, mainly groin. No doubt if was fit he would have featured during the year, he had a great year last year at Club level.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Swadman on August 02, 2013, 03:09:01 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on August 01, 2013, 09:50:14 PM
I find it hard to enjoy, I'm too frigging nervous myself. The only enjoyment I get from football is between when the final whistle is blown on a win and before the draw for the next round is made! I should take up something less stressful.
Thought I'd share this to add to your nervousness

HoganStand Interview with Stephen King http://fb.me/Ksuqg7l7
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: CavanCola on August 02, 2013, 03:20:03 PM
I think whoever adapts to the conditions best will come out on top. The croke park sod gets very slippery when it's wet and the current forecast for Sunday is for plenty of rain. We just need a sh1ty goal or two!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on August 02, 2013, 07:30:45 PM
Quote from: Swadman on August 02, 2013, 03:09:01 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on August 01, 2013, 09:50:14 PM
I find it hard to enjoy, I'm too frigging nervous myself. The only enjoyment I get from football is between when the final whistle is blown on a win and before the draw for the next round is made! I should take up something less stressful.
Thought I'd share this to add to your nervousness

HoganStand Interview with Stephen King http://fb.me/Ksuqg7l7

Thanks!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on August 02, 2013, 08:42:18 PM
Team named. Same as last day except Mcloughlin in for McEnroe.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on August 03, 2013, 12:11:59 PM
Well the consensus in the media is a Kerry win and although most of them are trying to be polite to Cavan I think they expect us to get hammered out of Croke park. Problem is none of them have given a good reason why they think this. I've heard them on about he Div 1 vrs Div 3 but if that were true surely we would see some Div 2 teams in the mix? Kerry did play most of Div 1 without their Dr Crokes players but likewise Cavan played Div 3 without many of their U21's - hence the average results both teams had.

The other reason being given is just that Kerry are Kerry and Cavan have come from nowhere. For sure Kerry have quality players but maybe Cavan do too, just because they are too young to have 5/6 years experience does not make them lesser footballers? This is just garbage and it implies that Cavan are putting 15 mere mortals on the field to play 15 God like beings from Kerry.

I'm not trying to say Kerry are not a very good team but I bet if Armagh or Derry were playing them on Sunday there would be a totally different slant - many of these commentators don't know anything about us and are using lazy journalism to fill some pages. It reminds me of Colm O Rourke slagging of Dooher and claiming he wasnt a good enough footballer, years later him playing or not playing was the difference between a win and a loss to the same expert.

Now the best I have read is todays Times were our Former manager Tommy Carr talks about products of our U21 teams and lists Martin Dunne as an example! He then goes on to say we have some older heads on the team like Mossy Corr and Killian Clarke!! Tommy clearly is as shite a journalist as he was a manager.

Well I think Cavan have a fighting chance, 5/1 is a crazy price. We need to know our opponents but we should not fear them. They've been beaten before and will be beaten again, there is nothing ridiculous in the possibility that we could beat them on Sunday. One thing that everyone has missed is that Cavan have some positives. We have the top scorer in the championship. We have a system which every player knows and which they have all played through underage and we know this system is not one Kerry have played well against. We have youth and we have no pressure. I hope our players ignore all this crap been written in the papers as the most important thing we need is belief.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: comeysfield on August 03, 2013, 12:39:56 PM
We will have a good day, no ifs no buts just go on out and beat them. A bit surprised that McDermott is not in.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on August 03, 2013, 12:42:25 PM
+1
Couldn't agree more Myles those are my thoughts exactly. A lot of the supposed analysis of this game is based around the history and mythology of the Kerry jersey, without full cognizance of the facts, some of which you listed above. In a way I am delighted with all this off hand dismissing of Cavan it just makes it harder for them and easier for us. I know heart and soul we will give Kerry a right rattle and the closer the game gets the more positive I get.

They have one good half under their belts against a spluttering Cork team to justify all this loose talk about "it's not whether or not they'll win but by how much". Walk into them lads and let's see where we are at the long whistle.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on August 03, 2013, 01:11:48 PM
Agree about the lazy journalism. See the view of the Kerry Player (O'Sullivan?) In the Celt. Said that Mossy Corr is having a great year in defence.

I'm gone all bi-polar about this game. Convinced myself yesterday that we were going to put in a massive performance and win. Today I'm wondering if we can keep the defeat to single figures.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on August 03, 2013, 01:21:40 PM
Hoganstand had Mossy Corr on their team if the week at corner back. It doesn't get much lazier than that, just because he wore no 2! We could win and we could get hammered, a lot depends on how we approach it. Do we really belief at the bottom of out guts we can win or are we just going up to have a go.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on August 03, 2013, 01:30:00 PM
Well anybody getting worried that a few oul yokes on Youtube or Twitter would get players losing the run of themselves need relax. Times this morning suggests we will barely keep the ball kicked out to Kerry, Bernard Flynn in the Mirror reckons we will do well to keep it to six points. The reason why Kerry deserve to be rampaging hot favourites tomorrow is a lot more to do with some present facts that ancient mythology. There are six of this years division 1 teams in the last 8 which tends to bear out what a lot of sensible analysts have been saying all year that there is a significant gap between the perceived "top 6" and the rest. Time will tell but am very hopeful our lads will give it a right rattle.

Lazy journalism indeed. Cavan apparently have their own bit if physical presence in the likes of Mossy Corr and, wait for it, Ronan Flanagan.

Tommy Carr manages to piss me off a fair bit but one fair point that he made is that it will be very interesting to see where we are this time next year. But sure we will worry about that later.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on August 03, 2013, 01:32:02 PM
Correction Flynn reckons we will do well to keep it to TEN points.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on August 03, 2013, 01:48:08 PM
At the end of the day all that matters is what is in the hearts of the Cavan players tomorrow and I am hopeful they will be raring to go and give Kerry lots of it. IF they come up short then we can still look on this season as a success at numerous levels. If we get to half time level or even winning I think we will win the match.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on August 03, 2013, 04:46:50 PM
I'd like to know how many Cavan matches Bernard Flynn has seen this year and on what exactly he is basing his opinion.

In fact I'd say there's a lot of journalysis going on this weekend from lads who have been avoiding going to report on Cavan matches all year and so don't have a lot of first-hand knowledge. You can't imagine the lead writers in the newspapers fighting over the two Fermanagh ties, a trip to Derry on a super-busy weekend or worst of all, the game against London.

Let them make their glib, off-hand predictions. Newspapers need to be filled and it probably helps us anyway in terms of low profile and motivation. I still think we'll open a few eyes this weekend, whether it results in a dream victory or not remains to be seen but if defeat it is, I'll be bowled over if we lose by more than three.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: CC1 on August 04, 2013, 08:56:34 AM
Lets f**king win this! No ifs but or maybes. Believe and you can achieve.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: CC1 on August 04, 2013, 07:09:32 PM
Very disappointing, we left the game behind us in the first half. Kerry were there for the taking in my opinion. Got the tactics wrong and the build up play was far too slow. McDermott had one hell of a game when he came on, unlucky not to start in my opinion. Hopefully the lads will gain experience from today and going by our second half performance I think we will do.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on August 04, 2013, 08:16:08 PM
I don't think Hyland knows his best team ,we are started today with a weaker team than we had half way through second half.

Good learning experience for everyone though.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on August 04, 2013, 09:08:16 PM
The tactics Cavan played have been the same tactics all year, worked well until now, it was the Cavan passing and error's which were a big let down in the first half. Going man to man with Kerry and they would take you apart. Also slow lateral passing in the first half was very frustrating. McDermott came on and did very well, Dunne didn't have his best game, and didn't react well to being taken off, he was standing behind his man in the second half and deserved to be taken off. Thought Mackey had a brilliant game, and Dara McVeety, and Rory Dunne was very solid at full back, keeping Donaghy at bay. The second have performance was impressive, they didn't give in and it could have been closer only for some poor wides.

Think the occasion probably got to some of the younger players in the first half. They did Cavan proud in the second half.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on August 05, 2013, 09:40:38 AM
Thats the end of Hylands first year of his 5 year term and if we have same improvement ever year we will be in Croke Park more often.

Looks like we will have some good options in Midfield next year with Gearoid, Argue and hopefully Greg McGovern can get a good run with U-21's next year he looks like he could be good player. 
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mb80b60 on August 05, 2013, 09:44:26 AM
Quote from: tommysmith on August 05, 2013, 09:40:38 AM
Thats the end of Hylands first year of his 5 year term and if we have same improvement ever year we will be in Croke Park more often.

Looks like we will have some good options in Midfield next year with Gearoid, Argue and hopefully Greg McGovern can get a good run with U-21's next year he looks like he could be good player.

Is that Greg McGovern from swad?  He's a big fella - has he much football in him?  Where is his best position?

Argue looked decent yesterday alright.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on August 05, 2013, 10:02:36 AM
Quote from: mb80b60 on August 05, 2013, 09:44:26 AM
Quote from: tommysmith on August 05, 2013, 09:40:38 AM
Thats the end of Hylands first year of his 5 year term and if we have same improvement ever year we will be in Croke Park more often.

Looks like we will have some good options in Midfield next year with Gearoid, Argue and hopefully Greg McGovern can get a good run with U-21's next year he looks like he could be good player.

Is that Greg McGovern from swad?  He's a big fella - has he much football in him?  Where is his best position?

Argue looked decent yesterday alright.
He is big and strong and is a good fielder of the ball and i will be looking out for him with U21's next year.  Tom Hayes is another player i hope can step up we haven't had a player like him since Jason Reilly.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on August 05, 2013, 12:17:12 PM
I had a comment planned in my head on yesterdays game but I think it was fairly well summed up by Terry in this article on hoganstand

http://hoganstand.com/cavan/ArticleForm.aspx?ID=198055

We approached the game too conservatively and were too worried about Kerry and I think we can all look back now and see that they are nothing special and we could have really put it up to them. I am glad to hear Terry say this as it shows it is not only the team that is learning but the management too and that is how it should be.

For me our standout players were Rory Dunne, Toasty was excellent, McVitty fearless and again K Clarke tenacious.

All in all it has been a fantastic year for Cavan given where we were and we should be very thankful to all the players and management of all our teams. We got to a semi final in minor with a very young team and only lost by 2 pts to the eventual winners. We won the Ulster U21 again and were unlucky not to force extra time in the AI semi where I am sure we would have won and our seniors went from not winning a game in 4 years in Ulster to having a game plan and a purpose, making the AI quarters, losing the Ulster semi by a point to the eventual winners and all this with an exceptionally young team. Even our U16 team seems to be doing well.

So where next for Cavan? First things first year 2 will be more difficult than year 1. We have made such progress that it will be very hard to make more progress next year. Are we saying an Ulster final is our goal, that could depend on the draw. Certainly we just have to get out of Div 3. I would also have high hopes for next years U21's. Could we get a 4 in a row Ulster - that would be phenomenal and perhaps an AI title? Perhaps I am being too greedy!

Yesterdays games showed up a few things. We still need more strength and more quality in the panel. Gearoid would be a huge addition if he can come back strong. Keating and Martin Dunne have potential but this needs a lot of work. Dunne needs to get stronger and develop the ability to win his own ball. Keating needs to improve hugely on his decision making - the last 2 games he has gone backwards. I also think we need to get some more pacy players involved. Have to say I am really looking forward to next year already and I hope that management team can stay together and keep us moving in the correct direction.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on August 05, 2013, 12:39:32 PM
Bit like the 97 semi final and this years Under 21 Semi Final I think we made the mistake of giving the opposition a bit too much respect . I have to confess I went up there with a slight attitude of hoping we wouldn't get hockeyed and I wonder are some players a bit rueful this morning thinking that Kerry aren't as good as they were made out. Most of us thought Alan Clarke had an outstanding game over the 70 minutes.

Great progress as all levels. We now have a panel of players with serious championship experience some change from the start of the year. Next year there are a number of players from the recent underage setup who should be seriously pushing for starting places as they hopefully get injuries sorted-Gearoid, Barry Reilly, Kevin Tierney and Mooney are ones that come to mind straight away. Conor Moynagh is still under 21 next year and has had serious injury problems but made a massive difference when he came on on the Under 21 semi final so hopefully he can stay injury free.

Just as important there are any number of lads in the 25 year old plus age group who should be looking at what Mackey has done this year-Dermot Sheridan, Ray Cullivan, Barry Watters are only a few. If one or two of those came through it would help things further.

I'd like to think the club championships might get  a bit of a boost this year with the number of players knocking around who have come through the various Under 21 panels. There might even be another McVeety or Enda Reilly to be found who knows.

Great summer hope the lads can push on and get out of Division three next year.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on August 05, 2013, 12:43:41 PM
There's still serious potential in the team. I am still very proud of them all. The tactics employed were not so much the problem yesterday as the execution of them...some of the lads froze, got the jitters and we coughed up too much hard-won ball with dreadful passes when building attacks early in the game. The confidence just sagged out of the lads after that. It's also true that we attacked much too slowly and didn't go for the jugular - showed too much respect to a Kerry team that will be exposed by teams with more experience and know-how down the road.

All in all, a good year and it's great to hear Rory Dunne refusing to accept and laurels until there's medals and silverware in the cabinet. These boys will be flat out again next year and with McKiernan hopefully returning in good shape, and McVitty/Veety (what's his name anyway?) and Argue etc. stepping up, I think the future is still blue.

Just to play devil's advocate, anyone concerned that Givney is not all he's made out to be? He seems to go missing when the chips are down, but maybe I am being harsh.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on August 05, 2013, 12:44:50 PM
Would hope Martin Dunne doesn't think he is bigger then the team in future if he is taken off. None of the other subs being taken off reacted like he did. He had a very good year, buts its not all about him.

Dara McVeety is how it's spelt.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on August 05, 2013, 01:44:07 PM
QuoteJust to play devil's advocate, anyone concerned that Givney is not all he's made out to be? He seems to go missing when the chips are down, but maybe I am being harsh.

I think it will be a matter of getting more experience.  He is on a par with Aiden O'Shea.  He'll be good.

How many of that DIT team have gone on to play well for their County team?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on August 05, 2013, 01:47:57 PM
Quote from: cavanmaniac on August 05, 2013, 12:43:41 PM


Just to play devil's advocate, anyone concerned that Givney is not all he's made out to be? He seems to go missing when the chips are down, but maybe I am being harsh.

I would agree with you here.

Some people would say he is a top class midfielder but he won't  be midfield next year barring injuries.  I though Keating did more  in his few minutes out there yesterday than Givney did in all his time.


Quote
I think it will be a matter of getting more experience.  He is on a par with Aiden O'Shea.  He'll be good.

How many of that DIT team have gone on to play well for their County team?

He isn't half the player O'Shea is.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on August 05, 2013, 01:54:12 PM
Quote from: Denn Forever on August 05, 2013, 01:44:07 PM
QuoteJust to play devil's advocate, anyone concerned that Givney is not all he's made out to be? He seems to go missing when the chips are down, but maybe I am being harsh.

I think it will be a matter of getting more experience.  He is on a par with Aiden O'Shea.  He'll be good.

How many of that DIT team have gone on to play well for their County team?

He is a year older then Aidan O'Shea. So he has experience, been involved with the Cavan team  since 09. Started off well yesterday and drifted out, although Johnny Buckley and Moran are quality players. He had a decent championship, but maybe more could have come from him.

There was 3 involved with DIT this year, Givney, Martin Reilly and Ross Sheridan. Sheridan was called into the Senior panel but dislocated his shoulder in a club and missed the Junior Semi against Longford, he has been out since.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on August 05, 2013, 01:58:42 PM
I think as more of the U-21 lads start progressing Givney will be pushed further down the pecking order. 
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on August 05, 2013, 02:37:46 PM
Poor stuff from us yesterday but a good year. The line was far too slow to make changes, I would have subbed 2 players after 15 minutes. Anyway a good year so roll on next yr.

Ye are way out on givney lads. He was given ball winning responsibility ahead of o Shea for DIT this year. He is athletic. His problem is his club are playing at a poor level. There is no chance he will drop down the pecking order. As for Greg McGovern, he is big and strong but I don't see an athlete yet and so long way to go before he is in senior team.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on August 05, 2013, 02:42:11 PM
I'm aware that he was the attacking midfield player and O Shea was the defensive player that isn't the point. Playing at a higher level at club level shouldn't matter, when Cork won the All Ireland in 2010, the a bulk of the team was made up from players playing intermediate and Junior Club football in Cork..
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Mrs mills on August 05, 2013, 02:43:32 PM
Was at the game and cavan appeared overawed. Calls made for impossible passes by forwards and, worse still, futile attempts by others to try and make the passes. When good footballers review some of the stuff they did on and off the ball (when cavan had the ball), they will cringe. It's a direct result of being affected by the enormity of the occasion and perhaps the pitch too.
Eugene keating was one of the guilty parties calling for impossible passes.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on August 05, 2013, 02:49:25 PM
What is the point Rodney? All I'm saying is that the post mortem on givney is premature. Also, I'm sure Martin Dunne was just frustrated yesterday. I wouldn't read too much into it, I'm sure Terry will have a quiet word. Most disappointing player yesterday was Keating. Some of the shots and passes he was at were just crazy.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on August 05, 2013, 02:54:08 PM
Quote from: Itchy on August 05, 2013, 02:37:46 PM
Poor stuff from us yesterday but a good year. The line was far too slow to make changes, I would have subbed 2 players after 15 minutes. Anyway a good year so roll on next yr.

Ye are way out on givney lads. He was given ball winning responsibility ahead of o Shea for DIT this year. He is athletic. His problem is his club are playing at a poor level. There is no chance he will drop down the pecking order. As for Greg McGovern, he is big and strong but I don't see an athlete yet and so long way to go before he is in senior team.

There is a reason Givney is the 3rd choice midfielder lads. No good being an athlete when you can't give a simple pass. Himself and Keating are similar in that both appear to have a lot of raw talent but their composure is non existent. Both were the two biggest culprits for wasteful Cavan play yesterday. Both need to drastically improve the choices they make, if they don't their places on the team need to be reconsidered.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on August 05, 2013, 02:55:08 PM
Quote from: Westside on August 05, 2013, 02:54:08 PM
Quote from: Itchy on August 05, 2013, 02:37:46 PM
Poor stuff from us yesterday but a good year. The line was far too slow to make changes, I would have subbed 2 players after 15 minutes. Anyway a good year so roll on next yr.

Ye are way out on givney lads. He was given ball winning responsibility ahead of o Shea for DIT this year. He is athletic. His problem is his club are playing at a poor level. There is no chance he will drop down the pecking order. As for Greg McGovern, he is big and strong but I don't see an athlete yet and so long way to go before he is in senior team.

There is a reason Givney is the 3rd choice midfielder lads. No good being an athlete when you can't give a simple pass. Himself and Keating are similar in that both appear to have a lot of raw talent but their composure is non existent. Both were the two biggest culprits for wasteful Cavan play yesterday. Both need to drastically improve the choices they make, if they don't their places on the team need to be reconsidered.

This is so true.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on August 05, 2013, 03:03:47 PM
Quote from: Itchy on August 05, 2013, 02:49:25 PM
What is the point Rodney? All I'm saying is that the post mortem on givney is premature. Also, I'm sure Martin Dunne was just frustrated yesterday. I wouldn't read too much into it, I'm sure Terry will have a quiet word. Most disappointing player yesterday was Keating. Some of the shots and passes he was at were just crazy.

Basically what Westside said, Givney had a excellent Sigerson Cup and Ryan Cup. Played well with Ulster, but some of the simple skills are a big let down.

Hopefully next year we might see the best of him.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on August 05, 2013, 03:17:09 PM
What Givney lacks is composure. That's not a skill but it can come with experience. To get this experience he needs to be playing at a higher level. As for 3rd choice midfielder comment, you think Thomas corr has better skill than Givney. He doesn't , it just we don't ask him to do the fielding, passing etc. Personally I think some of these comments are stupid, the guy was selected as one of 2 top midfielders in Ulster and now he's in danger if not being good enough to play for Cavan!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on August 05, 2013, 03:24:59 PM
U16s beat Wicklow 2.15 to 1.11 and are into Gerry Reilly Tournament final.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on August 05, 2013, 03:26:36 PM
How can he play at a higher level, Switch clubs? Mountnugent are playing in the Intermediate Championship this year, that's higher then where they were playing last year.  No disrespect to Junior. Nobody said he wasn't good enough, we are just giving an analysis on his form this year in the championship for Cavan.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on August 05, 2013, 03:27:55 PM
By playing on an amalgamated team in senior perhaps and by Cavan getting out of Div 3.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on August 05, 2013, 03:30:38 PM
Don't think amalgamations are ever going to happen after the way it was dealt with last year.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on August 05, 2013, 03:32:55 PM
I'll qualify what I said above.. I don't want to be the one putting the boot into players after the game. There is no question surrounding the effort and willingness to work for Givney and Keating, and given the re-emergence of Mackey and Rory Dunne this year we should be very careful about writing off players too quickly. The template is there for both to be very good players and with the right coaching and a bit more experience and maturity hopefully both can improve the weaknesses in their games. But if they don't show the required improvement other options should be tried.

It's irrelevant whether he's picked at midfield for Ulster in a mickey mouse competition, we should be judging him solely on his performances for Cavan. I'm not saying he's not good enough to play for Cavan, his athleticism and ability aren't in question. It's his decision making, composure and amount of mistakes he makes that are letting him down.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on August 05, 2013, 03:44:49 PM
A lot of Mayo men were saying the same thing about Aiden O Shea last 2 years. He plays with a senior Mayo club and in Div 1. Today he is being called the best midfielder in Ireland. Givney is being asked to do an awful lot, maybe he is under too much pressure too. He needs help and while I like Corr as a good solid tryer, it was clear as day he is not athletic enough for fast pitches in the summer. He was one if the 2 I'd have took off yesterday after 15mins yesterday.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on August 05, 2013, 04:00:36 PM
Less posing and trying to look good and concentrate on the game would help also.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on August 05, 2013, 04:03:34 PM
Quote from: tommysmith on August 05, 2013, 04:00:36 PM
Less posing and trying to look good and concentrate on the game would help also.

Example?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on August 05, 2013, 04:23:45 PM
Quote from: Itchy on August 05, 2013, 04:03:34 PM
Quote from: tommysmith on August 05, 2013, 04:00:36 PM
Less posing and trying to look good and concentrate on the game would help also.

Example?

(http://www.newstalk.ie/content/000/images/000009/9150_54_news_hub_8401_656x500.jpg)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on August 05, 2013, 04:27:41 PM
Pathetic Tommy. You are letting yourself down. You need to wise up.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on August 05, 2013, 04:27:59 PM
Poor form Tommy.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on August 05, 2013, 04:28:50 PM
Why sure its just a bit of craic isn't it on a poster outside virginia.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on August 05, 2013, 04:31:21 PM
No Tommy. You said Givney needs to concentrate on football and not how he looks. You gave as an example a picture taken after a match where David is celebrating. Unless Givney himself put up the poster you have no point.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: whats my name on August 05, 2013, 04:36:13 PM
Quote from: tommysmith on August 05, 2013, 04:28:50 PM
Why sure its just a bit of craic isn't it on a poster outside virginia.
what a ball bag you are tommy easy for you sitting behind a computer criticising  players about how they played in one game. if you put in half the effort that man did and the dedication he has to the cause traveling down from dublin to train with cavan three times a week and having no social life for the good of cavan football and getting ball bashed by a clown like you that wouldnt know a football if it hit you in the mouth
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on August 05, 2013, 04:37:10 PM
Sorry cousin  :-[

I think you should read what other posters are saying without just having a go at me.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: whats my name on August 05, 2013, 04:41:49 PM
they were critisising his game not his apperance and the way he conducts himself after a game celebrating a win
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on August 05, 2013, 04:49:40 PM
You should do decent thing Tommy and delete those posts.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on August 05, 2013, 05:34:25 PM
Quote from: Itchy on August 05, 2013, 04:49:40 PM
You should do decent thing Tommy and delete those posts.

Agree
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on August 05, 2013, 05:38:24 PM
Why
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: INDIANA on August 05, 2013, 05:50:13 PM
Quote from: Denn Forever on August 05, 2013, 01:44:07 PM
QuoteJust to play devil's advocate, anyone concerned that Givney is not all he's made out to be? He seems to go missing when the chips are down, but maybe I am being harsh.

I think it will be a matter of getting more experience.  He is on a par with Aiden O'Shea.  He'll be good.

How many of that DIT team have gone on to play well for their County team?

Nowhere near O Se's level. But few are. O Se is probably the best midfielder in the country at present.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on August 05, 2013, 06:02:46 PM
Quote from: tommysmith on August 05, 2013, 05:38:24 PM
Why

Two immediate reasons spring to mind:

1. out of a bit of respect for a guy that has spent the last several months breaking his ass for the County and is probably feeling a small bit disappointed with himself;

2. much less important than point 1 but worth stating anyway, from your own point of view it would probably make you look a bit less of a tit if you were not associated with that particular post.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on August 05, 2013, 06:12:57 PM
I don't see a problem with posting something that i have seen on Twitter and on the Dublin road.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: whats my name on August 05, 2013, 06:33:49 PM
Quote from: anglocelt39 on August 05, 2013, 06:02:46 PM
Quote from: tommysmith on August 05, 2013, 05:38:24 PM
Why

Two immediate reasons spring to mind:

1. out of a bit of respect for a guy that has spent the last several months breaking his ass for the County and is probably feeling a small bit disappointed with himself;

2. much less important than point 1 but worth stating anyway, from your own point of view it would probably make you look a bit less of a tit if you were not associated with that particular post.
well said anglo
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on August 05, 2013, 06:37:03 PM
Quote from: whats my name on August 05, 2013, 04:41:49 PM
they were critisising his game not his apperance and the way he conducts himself after a game celebrating a win

You are raving, i already had said it was a bit of craic.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on August 05, 2013, 07:16:24 PM
U16's are playing Dublin in the Gerry Reilly Final. Something to look forward too after the lows of yesterday.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on August 05, 2013, 07:24:10 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on August 05, 2013, 07:16:24 PM
U16's are playing Dublin in the Gerry Reilly Final. Something to look forward too after the lows of yesterday.

Very good.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BigMac on August 05, 2013, 08:54:31 PM
I know the lad looking at the camera. That's outside his house. Why are they scumbags?
You are quick off the mark getting the photos off Facebook Tommy, considering that was only put up half an hour ago.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on August 05, 2013, 08:57:50 PM
Has he no toilet in his house?

Is it you?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BigMac on August 05, 2013, 09:07:01 PM
No it's not me, but I do know him. Have you never drained the snake anywhere other than a toilet? Did you think this photo, take off someones personal Facebook account was really deserving of being posted on a public discussion forum, on Cavan GAA?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on August 05, 2013, 09:10:44 PM
Quote from: BigMac on August 05, 2013, 09:07:01 PM
No it's not me, but I do know him. Have you never drained the snake anywhere other than a toilet? Did you think this photo, take off someones personal Facebook account was really deserving of being posted on a public discussion forum, on Cavan GAA?

I have but not in someones front lawn in middle of day.

Yes i did actually but i might send it to joe.ie see what they make of it.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on August 05, 2013, 09:14:04 PM
Sure they were only watering the flowers...
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4sam on August 05, 2013, 09:15:04 PM
What are ye talking about lads?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on August 05, 2013, 09:15:44 PM
Nothing  :D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on August 05, 2013, 09:18:25 PM
Quote from: tommysmith on August 05, 2013, 09:15:44 PM
Nothing  :D


Nothing unusual for you Tommy. Are you trying to set a record for the number of times you make a tit of yourself in one day ::)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on August 05, 2013, 09:20:24 PM
Quote from: anglocelt39 on August 05, 2013, 09:18:25 PM
Quote from: tommysmith on August 05, 2013, 09:15:44 PM
Nothing  :D


Nothing unusual for you Tommy. Are you trying to set a record for the number of times you make a tit of yourself in one day ::)

Go on outta that.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on August 05, 2013, 09:25:45 PM
Tommy stuck up a picture of same lads pissing in a garden and wanted to know who the "scumbags" were. He has since took it down. What the f**k is wrong with you today Tommy, are you still on the sauce or something?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on August 05, 2013, 09:27:26 PM
Lads,what the f**k are ye on about with those last few posts? Without knowing any details,it looks like a dodgy topic of conversation.
The criticism on Givney is a bit unfair in my opinion, He hasn't had what you would call a dominant game this year at centre field and has made mistakes ,but he has been  a very good contributor in every game with a couple of points,lots of good passes and a few great catches in the middle.
Personally if Gearoid comes back and is 100% and Michael Argue keeps progressing as we think he can,i would love to see Givney put in the full forward line alongside Keating( our version of the twin towers),launch her in and let Dunne play off them. If we are in trouble at centre field,he can always come out and give us another option.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on August 05, 2013, 09:29:56 PM
Quote from: Itchy on August 05, 2013, 09:25:45 PM
Tommy stuck up a picture of same lads pissing in a garden and wanted to know who the "scumbags" were. He has since took it down. What the f**k is wrong with you today Tommy, are you still on the sauce or something?


But its ok it was his own house, lucky the bus he was on stopped outside it to let him and his mates have a piss.

On is since Friday lad, work tomorrow  :o
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on August 05, 2013, 09:33:15 PM
Quote from: tommysmith on August 05, 2013, 09:29:56 PM
Quote from: Itchy on August 05, 2013, 09:25:45 PM
Tommy stuck up a picture of same lads pissing in a garden and wanted to know who the "scumbags" were. He has since took it down. What the f**k is wrong with you today Tommy, are you still on the sauce or something?

On is since Friday lad, work tomorrow  :o

F**k sake lad, championship is more than likely one week away for all clubs and you're on a 4 day bender.  ;D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: CC1 on August 05, 2013, 09:34:07 PM
Tommy, you are completely out of order. I know David from football and met him outside of it too and he's a great lad, hard working and totally dedicated to playing football for Cavan. He has always conducted himself well and how he celebrates victory is absolutely none of your concern.

Keep your classless, intrusive opinions to yourself the next time around. Your post was straight from the gutter.

As for everybody criticising him, have a word with yourselves and sort out your memory loss. He has been excellent this year and if you have a look at his performance against Armagh for example you see why he is so important to Cavan. He created half of Cavans scores that day.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on August 05, 2013, 09:36:21 PM
Quote from: CC1 on August 05, 2013, 09:34:07 PM
Tommy, you are completely out of order. I know David from football and met him outside of it too and he's a great lad, hard working and totally dedicated to playing football for Cavan. He has always conducted himself well and how he celebrates victory is absolutely none of your concern.

What have i done wrong, and where did i say anything about how he celebrates victory?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: CC1 on August 05, 2013, 09:42:22 PM
Quote from: tommysmith on August 05, 2013, 09:36:21 PM
Quote from: CC1 on August 05, 2013, 09:34:07 PM
Tommy, you are completely out of order. I know David from football and met him outside of it too and he's a great lad, hard working and totally dedicated to playing football for Cavan. He has always conducted himself well and how he celebrates victory is absolutely none of your concern.

What have i done wrong, and where did i say anything about how he celebrates victory?
You shouldn't need me to tell you.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on August 05, 2013, 09:44:43 PM
Please do
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on August 05, 2013, 09:47:54 PM
I don't think the criticism of David Givney's football ability was over the top tbh, I'd rate him highly. He has had a good championship, just maybe didn't see more of him. Its a discussion board after all, if we were all agreeing with each other it would be boring.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: CC1 on August 05, 2013, 09:51:54 PM
Quote from: tommysmith on August 05, 2013, 04:00:36 PM
Please do
Quote from: tommysmith on August 05, 2013, 04:00:36 PM
Less posing and trying to look good and concentrate on the game would help also.
You attacked the man and not the ball by having a go at his physical appearance rather than what we are here to talk about... Football.

We are talking about amateur sports people here, and I do not welcome gutter posts like the one I've quoted above.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on August 05, 2013, 09:55:02 PM
I think Givney has the ability and potential to be one of Ireland's best midfielders. I also think someone coming on here and saying he concentrates on looking good instead if in his football is insulting and totally over the top. A poster of him celebrating a win was given as an example.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on August 05, 2013, 09:56:04 PM
Quote from: CC1 on August 05, 2013, 09:51:54 PM
Quote from: tommysmith on August 05, 2013, 04:00:36 PM
Please do
Quote from: tommysmith on August 05, 2013, 04:00:36 PM
Less posing and trying to look good and concentrate on the game would help also.
You attacked the man and not the ball by having a go at his physical appearance rather than what we are here to talk about... Football.

We are talking about amateur sports people here, and I do not welcome gutter posts like the one I've quoted above.

Would you cop yourself on i said that as bait so i could post the picture of him and of course the bait was took.  As i have said earlier it was a bit of craic lad.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on August 05, 2013, 09:57:17 PM
And we had already moved on to the next issue from yesterday and it has also been dealt with.

Please keep up lads.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: CC1 on August 05, 2013, 10:03:46 PM
Quote from: tommysmith on August 05, 2013, 09:56:04 PM
Quote from: CC1 on August 05, 2013, 09:51:54 PM
Quote from: tommysmith on August 05, 2013, 04:00:36 PM
Please do
Quote from: tommysmith on August 05, 2013, 04:00:36 PM
Less posing and trying to look good and concentrate on the game would help also.
You attacked the man and not the ball by having a go at his physical appearance rather than what we are here to talk about... Football.

We are talking about amateur sports people here, and I do not welcome gutter posts like the one I've quoted above.

Would you cop yourself on i said that as bait so i could post the picture of him and of course the bait was took.  As i have said earlier it was a bit of craic lad.
I don't care what you think it is. To me, that kind of carry on, on a public forum is unacceptable. Especially as the lad isn't present (at least I don't think he is) to defend himself and throw "the banter" back.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on August 05, 2013, 10:05:53 PM
Is it ok to call you butter fingers?

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on August 05, 2013, 10:07:20 PM
Good night mates.

Be careful now not to joke or have a bit of "banter" someone might actually see it and laugh themselves.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: CC1 on August 05, 2013, 10:11:35 PM
Quote from: tommysmith on August 05, 2013, 10:05:53 PM
Is it ok to call you butter fingers?
Perfectly fine, as old as the mean Cavan jokes and just about as original, but perfectly fine.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on August 05, 2013, 10:49:22 PM
Quote from: tommysmith on August 05, 2013, 10:05:53 PM
Is it ok to call you butter fingers?

You're on form tonight horse,i don't know why you would be calling one of the best keepers in the county and a county panelist within the last 2 years,(CC1)  "butter fingers".
You're going to have some head on you tommorow morning  ;D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on August 05, 2013, 10:59:35 PM
Tommy, just a few ideas:

it's about five years now since Bebo went out of business, time to get over it.

Ever think of taking a touch typing course since you don't seem capable of posting more than 10 words at a time. God knows you might be actually be able to do something useful like post a match report.

Remind me again about those lads on the county panel that were heading stateside the week after the Armagh game, my heads wrecked on that one.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on August 05, 2013, 11:02:26 PM
Any thoughts on the Club Championship - now that county football is done for the year. Cavan Gaels + Johnston will be hard stopped no doubt. I think Ramor if they have everyone fit can do well. Castlerahan and Kingscourt will be thereabouts.

Ballyhaise Killeshandra and Cootehill would be the main teams for Intermediate.

Junior started last week. Arva had a very big win, very young team but have great potential.

The standard last year in the games I attended was very poor, hopefully better this year.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on August 05, 2013, 11:57:50 PM
Take a wee nap and come back and its all kicking off...

Tommy - you seem to be having a Charlie Sheen style melt down, what in the name of God have you been drinking???

The only good thing is a few lads are back on here that we haven't heard much off in a while. Welcome back BHM, CC1 & whats my name (and me old mate Anglocelt).

I think Givney is a very good player and well get better. Cannot see why he wouldn't be playing midfield unless he is needed elsewhere. I don't know the lad but I've never heard anyone say anything other than he is a 100% committed lad and I think he deserves a bit of respect - as do all the lads who burst their holes for Cavan this year.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on August 06, 2013, 08:14:50 AM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on August 05, 2013, 10:49:22 PM
Quote from: tommysmith on August 05, 2013, 10:05:53 PM
Is it ok to call you butter fingers?

You're on form tonight horse,i don't know why you would be calling one of the best keepers in the county and a county panelist within the last 2 years,(CC1)  "butter fingers".
You're going to have some head on you tommorow morning  ;D

He didn't get the call for the Derry game when an outfield player was sub keeper must not be rated by Hyland and Co.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on August 06, 2013, 08:18:53 AM
Quote from: anglocelt39 on August 05, 2013, 10:59:35 PM
Tommy, just a few ideas:

it's about five years now since Bebo went out of business, time to get over it.

Ever think of taking a touch typing course since you don't seem capable of posting more than 10 words at a time. God knows you might be actually be able to do something useful like post a match report.

Remind me again about those lads on the county panel that were heading stateside the week after the Armagh game, my heads wrecked on that one.

A match report why would i want to do that?

Do you think you are the boss or something here.

Will you remind me on what i said about Mossie Corr?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: comeysfield on August 06, 2013, 12:34:06 PM
Well lads settle the heads stay on the positive

We had a good run

We can play better than we did in the last game

We can learn and come back stronger

We fecked up on some simple things like recycle the ball out of the corner, but we can do that.

A lot of the young lads looked at home in Croke park hell that is one Hell of a positive for this year

Some of the older lads probably felt under P hopefully next year they will not feel that. The belief from winning will grow

The league is now an opportunity but we should stay with the U21 first approach keep building and building and building

Social media should be largely ignored, GAA players are just that young lads who can go and have a few pints after they are knocked out of the championship or win a game. Hell we all will be doing that in roughly a week and a half.

Bring on the championship where please God we will find a bit more to add to the team.


A bit of belief

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on August 06, 2013, 01:30:54 PM
 At last a man with a bit of cop on like myself  comeysfield.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4sam on August 06, 2013, 04:48:25 PM
Cian Mackey awarded Opel GAA/GPA award for July

http://www.gaa.ie/gaa-news-and-videos/daily-news/1/0608131203-mackey-and-ryan-win-opel-gaagpa-awards-for-july/
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on August 06, 2013, 05:26:41 PM
Well deserved, be interesting to see if can keep up the form for the rest of the year with Castlerahan. No doubt he can.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on August 07, 2013, 08:28:31 AM
SJ has made himself unavailable to play in the Kildare Club Championship next weekend the prodigal son is coming home.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: comeysfield on August 07, 2013, 09:42:40 AM
And now begins the SJ Circus for another two to three weeks. Well it might get Brolly off the papers at self
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: packiedevlin on August 07, 2013, 12:34:45 PM
I wonder will he be available to play Killeshandra in the championship on Saturday evening?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: lynchbhoy on August 07, 2013, 02:57:52 PM
well done on a great year lads and despite being disappointed with sunday's result, the second half was no mere moral victory.
Went some way to make up for 97 imo where only the great B Morris took the game to kerry throughout the entire 70 mins.

Some of the lads on sunday made bad mistakes, esp looking to try difficult passes and others not making the same runs as they would have done or not making them hard enough because they might have lacked deep self confidence as they may have been marking the best man marker in the country.
put these down to experience and more time as a unit under hyland, these lads will get better and do the simple things (well) next time out in croker.
also with improvement Hyland wont have to adopt as negative/defensive a strategy.
dont kill me, but this is similar to harte and tyrone pre-2003.
they were ultra (puke football labelled) defensive, but as they imrpoved, they threw off a lot of those defensive shackles.

I wish you lads well, as Cavan on Sunday gave me a lot of pride about all that is good in Gaelic football if not gaelic games.
With a huge gra for Cavan (maybe I shouldnt have after being married to a Cavan lady for well over a decade) since befriending many Cavan lads in my college days , I was delighted to see Hylands heroes bring the pride back to Cavan.

Dont knock players in the squad. They gave their all and despite some that might have movie star looks and like the craic, this bunch dont seem to be the big headed eejits that often peppered prev Cavan squads with potential.

Hope you get out of Div three and continue the Cavan revolution next season (apart from when you play Derry)!

mylesthestlasher yer still a b***x  ;)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on August 10, 2013, 12:41:00 PM
This could be the team to win Ulster in 2014


1. O'Mara
2. McLoughlin
3. Dunne
4. Clarke
5. McEnroe
6. Moynagh
7. McVeety
8. Argue
9. McKiernan
10. Mackey
11.McDermott
12. F Flanagan
13. Brady
14. Tierney
15. Dunne

Gilsenan
Givney
Keating
G Smith
T Hayes
T Corr
Madden
A Clarke
R Flanagan
E Reilly

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: orangeman on August 10, 2013, 01:17:18 PM
Quote from: tommysmith on August 10, 2013, 12:41:00 PM
This could be the team to win Ulster in 2014


1. O'Mara
2. McLoughlin
3. Dunne
4. Clarke
5. McEnroe
6. Moynagh
7. McVeety
8. Argue
9. McKiernan
10. Mackey
11.McDermott
12. F Flanagan
13. Brady
14. Tierney
15. Dunne

Gilsenan
GivneyKeating
G Smith
T Hayes
T Corr
Madden
A Clarke
R Flanagan
E Reilly


Why no Givney ?

Cos Mc Kiernan will be back ?


You rate Mc Kiernan a lot higher than Givney I assume.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on August 10, 2013, 01:21:55 PM
I'm not convinced by Kevin Tierney, doesn't look to impose himself on games enough. Don't see how Alan Clarke has done anything to warrant being dropped for next year, was one of our best performers. I think Conor Moynagh will be on this Senior team in a few years but it's early for him yet. And Paul O'Connor has a much better claim to a place on the bench than Conor Madden I would think.

One thing that could really throw a spanner in the works for our League Promotion chances next year is the black card. It's going to change the nature of the game dramatically, I think in general we have been fairly honest in the tackle this year but there have been a few occasions where we've been guilty of cynical fouling. But the big thing is how we will exploit it. Personally I think it means that pace will become an even bigger factor in the game. We've all seen a pacy player bust through a defence at some point and get hauled down, now that won't just be a yellow but will have a significant impact on the game. I'm sure Terry and the lads have been coming up with a plan about how to best adapt to the new rule both defensively and offensively.

Orangeman I think most people would rate McKiernan higher. Simply a better quality player. Not that it's any insult to say he's not as good as McKiernan, not many are!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on August 10, 2013, 01:38:13 PM
Quote from: orangeman on August 10, 2013, 01:17:18 PM
Quote from: tommysmith on August 10, 2013, 12:41:00 PM
This could be the team to win Ulster in 2014


1. O'Mara
2. McLoughlin
3. Dunne
4. Clarke
5. McEnroe
6. Moynagh
7. McVeety
8. Argue
9. McKiernan
10. Mackey
11.McDermott
12. F Flanagan
13. Brady
14. Tierney
15. Dunne

Gilsenan
GivneyKeating
G Smith
T Hayes
T Corr
Madden
A Clarke
R Flanagan
E Reilly


Why no Givney ?

Cos Mc Kiernan will be back ?


You rate Mc Kiernan a lot higher than Givney I assume.

Without a doubt Mc Kiernan is the best midfielder in Cavan, in fairness Givney would be on the team but not at midfield.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on August 10, 2013, 01:42:16 PM
Quote from: Westside on August 10, 2013, 01:21:55 PM
I'm not convinced by Kevin Tierney, doesn't look to impose himself on games enough. Don't see how Alan Clarke has done anything to warrant being dropped for next year, was one of our best performers. I think Conor Moynagh will be on this Senior team in a few years but it's early for him yet. And Paul O'Connor has a much better claim to a place on the bench than Conor Madden I would think.


Clarke had a good enough year but for a lad that has been an extra defender/free man all year i think we could do with someone who can be involved in the game a bit more in that position.

There are a few lads there who would have a claim along with O'Connor be intersting to see how they get on in club championship.

What you think of Tom Hayes?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on August 10, 2013, 02:21:18 PM
I think Clarke is ultimately a bit limited in ability but watching him this year he has been just what the team needed. Tough, honest, and a real leader. My abiding memories of him this year will be winning that ball cleanly against an onrushing Fermanagh attacker when everyone in the stand was screaming for him to take him out, going for that hospital ball against London and racing out with possession with the London player left in a heap behind him and hammering Declan O'Sullivan with shoulders in the Kerry game when he was trying to bully some of the younger lads off the ball.

Looking at the bench against Kerry it was hard to see who we could bring in up front. Tierney was there sure and Jack can play inside but I think we need more options and Enda O'Reilly and Paul O'Connor have earned their right to a chance on the Senior Squad. I think they'll get it too.

I haven't seen all that much of Hayes but I did see him against Armagh in the first round and I thought he was outstanding. The best player on the field that day. His size will count against him eventually but he won so much possession that he had no right to win and he has that bit of quality in his strike too. Very early days yet though.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on August 10, 2013, 02:30:24 PM
Quote from: Westside on August 10, 2013, 02:21:18 PM
I think Clarke is ultimately a bit limited in ability but watching him this year he has been just what the team needed. Tough, honest, and a real leader. My abiding memories of him this year will be winning that ball cleanly against an onrushing Fermanagh attacker when everyone in the stand was screaming for him to take him out, going for that hospital ball against London and racing out with possession with the London player left in a heap behind him and hammering Declan O'Sullivan with shoulders in the Kerry game when he was trying to bully some of the younger lads off the ball.

Looking at the bench against Kerry it was hard to see who we could bring in up front. Tierney was there sure and Jack can play inside but I think we need more options and Enda O'Reilly and Paul O'Connor have earned their right to a chance on the Senior Squad. I think they'll get it too.

I haven't seen all that much of Hayes but I did see him against Armagh in the first round and I thought he was outstanding. The best player on the field that day. His size will count against him eventually but he won so much possession that he had no right to win and he has that bit of quality in his strike too. Very early days yet though.

Clarke did his job well this year but to improve as a team i think someone is needed who can give a bit on an overlap going forward, maybe he is told to stay back but in the modern game attacking defenders are needed.  He may not be dropped but i think Terry should be looking to get better ball players in the half back line.  Then again if we are at full strength we have the forwards to do enough damage.   

Hayes is a player in the same sort of mould as Mickey Graham and will go straight at the goal when he gets the ball.  I'd say he is a nightmare to mark as when he doesn't win the ball he busts a gut to try and force the defender into a mistake or win it back.  Size may be a problem but he is as strong as an ox.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on August 10, 2013, 03:21:52 PM
Tom Hayes has to prove himself at U-21 level as does Greg McGovern and any other Minor player with some potential from this years team. Not all good Minors make Senior players.
He is a very good player, but any decent Minor over the last 8/9 years was talked up a bit much. Ray Cullivan was suppose to be winning All Stars within the next 5 years after Minor.... ::)
Hopefully Hayes can prove himself at U21 and see what happens after that.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on August 10, 2013, 03:31:19 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on August 10, 2013, 03:21:52 PM
Tom Hayes has to prove himself at U-21 level as does Greg McGovern and any other Minor player with some potential from this years team.

More obvious than anything else.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on August 10, 2013, 03:35:09 PM
Quote from: tommysmith on August 10, 2013, 03:31:19 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on August 10, 2013, 03:21:52 PM
Tom Hayes has to prove himself at U-21 level as does Greg McGovern and any other Minor player with some potential from this years team.

More obvious than anything else.

Surprised you didn't mention that bit then :D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on August 10, 2013, 03:38:33 PM
I never seen Ray Cullivan do f**k all either, where did the hype about him come from.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on August 10, 2013, 03:48:17 PM
I still think Cullivan has something to offer the senior setup. In fairness tommy he showed as much as Mackey or Rory Dunne did.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on August 10, 2013, 03:48:23 PM
He was very good under age , Played with Ireland u17's 2 years in row. He was the Captain the Second year, Barry Watters would have been on that panel too. Won a Sigerson with DCU .
He never made an impact at Senior, bar  under Keoghan.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on August 10, 2013, 03:58:00 PM
He is playing well this year with Lavey so maybe he might get a call up again next year. He left the panel twice in the past, so hopefully he would have a change of attitude if he was ever called back.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on August 11, 2013, 09:06:29 AM
Quote from: Westside on August 10, 2013, 01:21:55 PM
I'm not convinced by Kevin Tierney, doesn't look to impose himself on games enough. Don't see how Alan Clarke has done anything to warrant being dropped for next year, was one of our best performers. I think Conor Moynagh will be on this Senior team in a few years but it's early for him yet. And Paul O'Connor has a much better claim to a place on the bench than Conor Madden I would think.

One thing that could really throw a spanner in the works for our League Promotion chances next year is the black card. It's going to change the nature of the game dramatically, I think in general we have been fairly honest in the tackle this year but there have been a few occasions where we've been guilty of cynical fouling. But the big thing is how we will exploit it. Personally I think it means that pace will become an even bigger factor in the game. We've all seen a pacy player bust through a defence at some point and get hauled down, now that won't just be a yellow but will have a significant impact on the game. I'm sure Terry and the lads have been coming up with a plan about how to best adapt to the new rule both defensively and offensively.

Orangeman I think most people would rate McKiernan higher. Simply a better quality player. Not that it's any insult to say he's not as good as McKiernan, not many are!

That is debatable to be honest, I would rate Givney as good if not better. Its just things small things Givney needs to work on.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on August 11, 2013, 09:32:29 AM
I'd be inclined to agree with Rodney. I would say both have similar ball winning ability around the middle. McKiernan is a better score getter but giving is more athletic and better work rate on the field. Not much in it though and either player could develop further. Not sure could both play together in midfield.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on August 11, 2013, 09:39:57 AM
Anyone at  club games over weekend?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on August 11, 2013, 10:57:08 AM
Completely disagree lads. Gearoid, in my opinion, shows more quality in almost every facet of his game. Stronger and more comfortable on the ball, much better at taking scores and crucially, executes the simple skills of the game better. Givney may be a better fielder of the ball. 
We can only hope that Gearoid can return to fitness, it would be a real pity if we had a Ronan Clarke type on our hands. He's hugely committed though which is a great bonus to recovery.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on August 11, 2013, 12:25:12 PM
A great player going forward, but not the best tracking back. The League game this year against Fermangh being an example. Although Givney sometimes goes missing in that area as well, maybe not as much.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on August 11, 2013, 02:43:26 PM
I will bring this over from the other thread Rodney

QuoteMiller was beginning to be a liability in nets so hardy a surprise he wasn't selected.


When did he start becoming a liability?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on August 11, 2013, 02:53:47 PM
Lapse's of concentration in games, Kildare last year drippling the ball out of the goal (although Gilsenan made one error against Monagahan solid championsip bar that until he was injured). I suppose his kickouts were becoming to predicatable aswell.

Is he a clubmate of your's?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on August 11, 2013, 02:58:34 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on May 14, 2013, 12:40:23 PM
I think Miller was always going to be in nets for the Championship. Better keeper imo than O Meara.

No its just he went from the above to the below without playing.

QuoteMiller was beginning to be a liability in nets so hardy a surprise he wasn't selected.


QuoteIs he a clubmate of your's?

Nope
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on August 11, 2013, 03:00:05 PM
Quote from: tommysmith on August 11, 2013, 02:58:34 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on May 14, 2013, 12:40:23 PM
I think Miller was always going to be in nets for the Championship. Better keeper imo than O Meara.

No its just he went from the above to the below without playing.


O Meara?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on August 11, 2013, 03:02:12 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on August 11, 2013, 03:00:05 PM
Quote from: tommysmith on August 11, 2013, 02:58:34 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on May 14, 2013, 12:40:23 PM
I think Miller was always going to be in nets for the Championship. Better keeper imo than O Meara.

No its just he went from the above to the below without playing.


O Meara?

what?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on August 11, 2013, 03:04:34 PM
Quote from: tommysmith on August 11, 2013, 03:02:12 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on August 11, 2013, 03:00:05 PM
Quote from: tommysmith on August 11, 2013, 02:58:34 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on May 14, 2013, 12:40:23 PM
I think Miller was always going to be in nets for the Championship. Better keeper imo than O Meara.

No its just he went from the above to the below without playing.


O Meara?

what?

He went behind Gilesanan and O Meara when he started missing trainings. I suppose not attending the bonding session in Athlone didn't help.

He was a great Keeper for Cavan for a long time, but I suppose he couldn't afford to be missing training with the young players involved.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on August 11, 2013, 03:10:14 PM

I was just interested in why you changed your mind , you would have known all that when you made that post in may.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on August 11, 2013, 03:14:39 PM
Was giving him the benefit of doubt tbh, then I heard about not attending the Session in Athlone, wasn't aware of that. The players were either 100% in it for the championship or they weren't.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on August 11, 2013, 03:16:31 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on August 11, 2013, 03:14:39 PM
Was giving him the benefit of doubt tbh, then I heard about not attending the Session in Athlone, wasn't aware of that. The players were either 100% in it for the championship or they weren't.

That's fair enough but he had good reason for not going to that.

What you think of the other Keeper going to Las Vegas  between championship games?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on August 11, 2013, 03:22:59 PM
Hope he done well at Casino 8)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on August 11, 2013, 03:24:49 PM
It was an expensive trip for him.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on August 11, 2013, 03:38:16 PM
Arva beating Kildallan 1-12 to 1-8 in jfc.. Shercock beat Drung earlier 1.13 to 1.8 in intermediate.
Ramor - Drumgoon this evening. Conor Moynagh out for the rest of the year, rushed back to early from his latest injury. Co U21's would need him fully fit next year,
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on August 11, 2013, 03:52:45 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on August 11, 2013, 03:38:16 PM
Arva beating Kildallan 1-12 to 1-8 in jfc.. Shercock beat Drung earlier 1.13 to 1.8 in intermediate.
Ramor - Drumgoon this evening. Conor Moynagh out for the rest of the year, rushed back to early from his latest injury. Co U21's would need him fully fit next year,

He does be under serious pressure from Drumgoon management to play its not fair on the lad.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on August 11, 2013, 04:02:21 PM
Well for Moynagh's sake I'd rather see him miss out now than miss his last year at U21 when he will probably captain the side and they will have high hopes of defending their crown.

As for Gilsenan, I wouldn't mind it too much. He had just played an U21 Campaign and I wouldn't think it's as important fitness wise when he's the keeper. I'm sure with O'Meara in the wings the management wouldn't be long dropping him if they thought he was taking the piss.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on August 11, 2013, 04:35:37 PM
Quote from: Westside on August 11, 2013, 04:02:21 PM
Well for Moynagh's sake I'd rather see him miss out now than miss his last year at U21 when he will probably captain the side and they will have high hopes of defending their crown.

As for Gilsenan, I wouldn't mind it too much. He had just played an U21 Campaign and I wouldn't think it's as important fitness wise when he's the keeper. I'm sure with O'Meara in the wings the management wouldn't be long dropping him if they thought he was taking the piss.

So it should have been ok for another keeper not go on a bonding weekend( was it even a weekend i think they went on a thursday) as he had to go to work.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on August 11, 2013, 04:42:52 PM
They went Thursday & Friday as there was club games at the weekend. They would have known about the trip a while in advance asaik .. With the extra amount of club games this year, and Co Players excluded from 6 games, they couldn't afford to be missing another round of Club fixtures by going at the weekend.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on August 11, 2013, 04:46:16 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on August 11, 2013, 04:42:52 PM
They went Thursday & Friday as there was club games at the weekend. They would have known about the trip a while in advance asaik .. With the extra amount of club games this year, and Co Players excluded from 6 games, they couldn't afford to be missing another round of Club fixtures by going at the weekend.

How is this relevant Rodney?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on August 11, 2013, 04:51:31 PM
Quote from: tommysmith on August 11, 2013, 04:46:16 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on August 11, 2013, 04:42:52 PM
They went Thursday & Friday as there was club games at the weekend. They would have known about the trip a while in advance asaik .. With the extra amount of club games this year, and Co Players excluded from 6 games, they couldn't afford to be missing another round of Club fixtures by going at the weekend.

How is this relevant Rodney?

Because your banging on about James Reilly having work, when there was other players working too, who took the time off.  It wasn't like they were told the day before.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on August 11, 2013, 04:54:59 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on August 11, 2013, 04:51:31 PM
Quote from: tommysmith on August 11, 2013, 04:46:16 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on August 11, 2013, 04:42:52 PM
They went Thursday & Friday as there was club games at the weekend. They would have known about the trip a while in advance asaik .. With the extra amount of club games this year, and Co Players excluded from 6 games, they couldn't afford to be missing another round of Club fixtures by going at the weekend.

How is this relevant Rodney?

Because your banging on about James Reilly having work, when there was other players working too, who took the time off.  It wasn't like they were told the day before.

Not everyone can get time off work especially one they had just started.

It looks like the GAA intercounty scene is just suited to students and the unemployed/9-5 workers at this stage.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on August 11, 2013, 05:00:07 PM
Suppose they wanted players who were able for full commitment at training and also to go on bonding tours. Reilly was unfortunate in his line of work having longer hours. But that's the way it is. 
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on August 11, 2013, 05:02:08 PM
The big problem we have now is what these lads are going to do when they finish college.

Anyone heading into Ramor and Drumgoon later?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on August 11, 2013, 06:55:12 PM
Ok anglocelt39 i tried to sort this out by PM but you insist on not using the PM and want me to say what i have to say here.

Quotego away now Tommy its enough to be reading your posts on the main thread. If you want to have personal debates with me do it on there, you have no trouble having personal conversations with Rodney on the main board sure maybe I can accommodate you as well, if you wish.


Why do you insist on following me around the GAABOARD.com?. 

Do you have some sort of obsession with me, do you want me to send you a few underwear pictures?

Some examples

QuoteAnyone observing the Cavan thread will be used to a lot of stuff which Tommy "knows" about team selections, injuries  and player departures to the USA which tend to be proved nonsensical with the passage of time, probably best to treat anything he posts with a lot of scepticism at the very least.

QuoteTommy, just a few ideas:

it's about five years now since Bebo went out of business, time to get over it.

QuoteEver think of taking a touch typing course since you don't seem capable of posting more than 10 words at a time. God knows you might be actually be able to do something useful like post a match report.

Remind me again about those lads on the county panel that were heading stateside the week after the Armagh game, my heads wrecked on that one.

QuoteNothing unusual for you Tommy. Are you trying to set a record for the number of times you make a tit of yourself in one day ::)

QuoteNot sure until I get the inside story from yourself Tommy ;D

QuoteGlad to do that Tommy when you fill me in on the few lads who were heading stateside after the Armagh match. ;)

QuoteThankfully we can ignore most of what you post given the nonsense you have posted about Tommy Corr, Turloch Mooney and Terry Hyland over the last few weeks.


QuoteTommy didn't someone once suggest on here that you were Miley's lovechild?? Might have been related to a few things including your pointed reluctance to disclose your club affiliations. Anyway I'm sure we all look forward to this new thread you will eventually start to disclose the startling inside facts about Cavan GAA's inner workings.


Gowan da blues.

QuoteIs that the same bloke who knew that Mossy Corr was heading stateside?


Now i don't bother usually bother wasting my time with this poster as from what i can make out he does not go to either club or county games but i have decided to call him out to explain his obsession with me as its getting quiet boring at this stage.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on August 11, 2013, 07:20:40 PM
Despite not wanting to discuss things on PM he has just sent me one  :o

Waiting for the 1000 word essay now in reply.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on August 11, 2013, 07:27:49 PM
thats some effort in fairness Tommy, a bit more work gone into it than some of your copy and paste jobs from earlier this week
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on August 11, 2013, 07:29:57 PM
So you are not going to explain the obsession.

That's fine please go away and leave me alone.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on August 11, 2013, 07:39:01 PM
Ramor are giving Drumgoon a good beating tonight 3-6 , 0-4 approaching half time.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on August 11, 2013, 08:18:40 PM
I'm not a big fan of James Reilly for goals (nothing personal, dont know him at all). I also know nothing of his work arrangements but needless to say plenty of lads cant commit to to county because of work so that is just the way it is. If you want to be a county footballer today you need a compatible job.

Anyway for me there are a few problems with him. Firstly one of his biggest strengths was his long kick but in the modern game this isnt so important anymore. Today it is all about getting possession which means you need a good run into space, a plan to make the space and a keeper capable of putting the ball on a sixpence. Reilly never was able to do that and hasn't improved on that front at all. In fact earlier this year I watched the Cavan v Mayo game in Ballina. O Mara was in goals and we got possession from almost all his kick outs. In the 2nd half Reilly went in and banged every kick up the middle a huge distance but everyone of them went to a Mayo man. He also looked overweight and unfit, like a guy who either doesnt train hard enough or doesnt look after himself outside of training.

The big weakness in his game is decision making, when to come and when to stay and this is compounded by a slowness from lack of agility/training. No doubt he is a great shot stopper but that is the least useful of the traits a keeper must have in my opinion. So while he was a good servant over the years, the game has changed and i'm happy with the two lads we have at the moment.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on August 11, 2013, 08:22:37 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on August 11, 2013, 08:18:40 PM
So while he was a good servant over the years, the game has changed and i'm happy with the two lads we have at the moment.
[/b]

I don't think many would disagree.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on August 11, 2013, 08:24:11 PM
Hotel Kilmore SFC Result Drumgoon 0-7  Ramor Utd 4-9
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on August 12, 2013, 01:53:29 PM
Goals win games. KBP suits this Ramor team. They use the wings very well and have serious pace throughout the team. Some of Drumgoon's kickouts didn't help the Goonies cause as there seemed to be a lack of plan/communication there but overall Ramor looked a far more dangerous outfit. Jack Brady was involved in most of their good play but he was well backed up by the familiar names such as Anton, Cole, Mc Enroe, Cadden, Fitzsimons, Barkey, Connolly etc. Daragh Sheridan, a name I'm not familiar with had a fine game at wing back also. A much tougher test awaits Ramor in the next round.
Drumgoon play Lacken now I believe? A winnable game for either team.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on August 12, 2013, 05:49:43 PM
Ramor have a very solid team. They looked a lot more impressive then Cavan Gaels did against Lacken. Couple of late goals for the Gaels was the difference after lacken got a player sent off.
Drumgoon play Lacken in the back door.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on August 12, 2013, 06:10:46 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on August 12, 2013, 05:49:43 PM
Ramor have a very solid team. They looked a lot more impressive then Cavan Gaels did against Lacken. Couple of late goals for the Gaels was the difference after lacken got a player sent off.
Drumgoon play Lacken in the back door.

And the winner then plays Cavan Gaels i believe.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on August 12, 2013, 09:43:16 PM
Yeah that was genius thinking by the County Board ^
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on August 12, 2013, 10:53:13 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on August 12, 2013, 09:43:16 PM
Yeah that was genius thinking by the County Board ^

Is it not a draw or do the county board decide who plays who??
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on August 13, 2013, 08:28:25 AM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on August 12, 2013, 10:53:13 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on August 12, 2013, 09:43:16 PM
Yeah that was genius thinking by the County Board ^

Is it not a draw or do the county board decide who plays who??

Its a draw.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on August 13, 2013, 09:48:27 AM
That was known when the draw made back in March /April. Whoever lost in the premliminary game would be facing the loser of Drumgoon/ Ramor and then face the winner of the premliminary game in the first round. That's why both Cavan Gaels and Lacken were unhappy at the time.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4sam on August 14, 2013, 12:24:51 PM
This weekends fixtures

Senior

16.08.13 (Fri)
Round 1

CASTLERAHAN GAA V REDHILLS

Time: 7 30 PM (E.T. Available) , Venue: Lavey GAA Grounds

Referee: Margaret Farrelly

Round 1

BALLINAGH V DRUMALEE

Time: 8 00 PM (E.T. Available) , Venue: Kingspan Breffni Pk

Referee: Chris Mc Caffrey

17.08.13 (Sat)
Prelim Rd Game C

LACKEN GAA V DRUMGOON

Time: 5 00 PM , Venue: Ramor United Park

Referee: Chris Mc Caffrey

Round 1

GOWNA V KINGSCOURT

Time: 7 00 PM (E.T. Available) , Venue: Ramor United Park

Referee: TBC

Round 1

CROSSERLOUGH/CROIS AR LOCH V LAVEY

Time: 8 00 PM (E.T. Available) , Venue: Kingspan Breffni Pk

Referee: Mg Brady Ref

18.08.13 (Sun)
Round 1

KILLYGARRY GAA CLUB/CLG COILL AN GHARRAÍ V DENN

Time: 2 00 PM (E.T. Available) , Venue: Kingspan Breffni Pk

Referee: Raymond Kelly

Round 1

CÚCHULAINNS V BELTURBET

Time: 3 30 PM (E.T. Available) , Venue: Kingspan Breffni Pk

Referee: Martin Sexton

Round 1

RAMOR UNITED V MULLAHORAN

Time: 7 00 PM (E.T. Available) , Venue: Kingspan Breffni Pk

Referee: Noel Mooney

Intermediate

16.08.13 (Fri)
Round 1

DRUMLANE V BALLYMACHUGH

Time: 8 00 PM (E.T. Available) , Venue: St. Aidan's Park

Referee: Ollie Donohoe Ref

Round 1

BAILIEBOROUGH V COOTEHILL CELTIC GAA

Time: 8 00 PM (E.T. Available) , Venue: O Reilly Park

Referee: Oliver Óg O Reilly

17.08.13 (Sat)
Round 1

KILLINKERE GAA V BALLYHAISE

Time: 7 00 PM (E.T. Available) , Venue: Hugh O Reilly Memorial Park

Referee: TBC

Round 1

KILLESHANDRA V BUTLERSBRIDGE

Time: 7 00 PM (E.T. Available) , Venue: Ballinagh GAA Grounds

Referee: TBC

Round 1

ST MARY'S GAA, SWANLINBAR V LARAGH UTD

Time: 7 00 PM (E.T. Available) , Venue: Ballyconnell

Referee: Tony Gregory

Junior

18.08.13 (Sun)
Round 3

ARVA V MAGHERA MACFINNS GFC/AN MACHAIRE

Time: 2 30 PM , Venue: Sheelin Park

Referee: Padraig Sheirdan

Round 3

CORLOUGH V KILDALLAN G.A.A. CLUB

Time: 2 30 PM , Venue: Pairc Gael na Sionnainne

Referee: John Cassidy

18.08.13 (Sun)
Round 3

TEMPLEPORT ST. AIDAN'S GAA V KILL

Time: 2 30 PM , Venue: Max McGrath Memorial Park

Referee: Ollie Donohoe Ref

17.08.13 (Sat)
Round 3

KNOCKBRIDE GAA CLUB V SHANNON GAELS

Time: 5 30 PM , Venue: Ballyconnell

Referee: Padraig Kellegher

Any predictions for these games lads?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: comeysfield on August 14, 2013, 01:13:30 PM
I will now make my Annual Killinkere will win the Intermediate Championship prediction. Please treat this with respect.

But, seriously have a dark suspicion that Bailieborough the way they setup and play ala Donegal year 1 could be a huge threat to Killeshandra and Cootehill. Not very nice to watch but with Argue playing well they could sneak it. Will not say anything about Ballyhaise as inevitably they will be put to sword by us rural red neck types on Saturday night they do have  the potential to win it but obviously will have to do this via the backdoor method.  Note: Our result vs Killeshandra in the league we just did that for the fun of it  :o

Think Lavey or Ramor could feck somebody in the Senior Championship this year but is the Gaels to win again which is very boring. Just think Kingscourt do not have enough depth  to really challenge.

Junior champ think Kill went down for a reason so giving them the Nod but Shannon Gaels play a nice brand of football and will trouble everybody if O'Donnell gets back for them then I would place them second favorite Arva are not there yet but could make a final

Mystic Meg over
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on August 14, 2013, 02:17:32 PM
Alan O'Mare joining Nesty Smith, Michael Brides and co at St Oliver Plunketts. http://www.hoganstand.com/Cavan/ArticleForm.aspx?ID=198722
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on August 14, 2013, 04:51:08 PM
Good luck to him. Since B'boro have 3 good keepers (at least), makes sense that they are all getting football at a decent level somewhere.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on August 14, 2013, 07:19:27 PM
Isn't he a dub anyway?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on August 14, 2013, 09:14:48 PM
Think the family are originally from Dub, he works in Croke Park. Would be good for him to get regular football, instead of being behind Gilsenan at his own club.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on August 14, 2013, 09:32:45 PM
don't think Conor has played a whole pile for the club in the recent past, nor had Alan strange one that. Gilsenan had played a few games for the club before his recent injury. Billy O Mara, not sure where he went to.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on August 14, 2013, 11:23:59 PM
Heard that Keating is being played at Centre Back for Sylvesters?..
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: whats my name on August 15, 2013, 12:07:09 AM
keating played centre back in tommy carrs days if im not mistaken i think he played there the year antrim beat us in the semi final so he would have some experience there
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on August 15, 2013, 12:54:41 PM
He was never suited to Centre back during that spell. Had great distribution but was all at sea when it came to defending. Played Centre back against Fermanagh & Antrim but was half forward for the Qualifier game against Wicklow. He was playing in the forwards when he started off at Sylvesters must have been only recently that he went to centre back.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dougal on August 15, 2013, 05:40:28 PM
Can anyone give me a good reason not to back ramor to beat mullahoran this weekend @1/1. seems like a big price to me.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: boojangles on August 15, 2013, 07:01:15 PM
Quote from: Dougal on August 15, 2013, 05:40:28 PM
Can anyone give me a good reason not to back ramor to beat mullahoran this weekend @1/1. seems like a big price to me.

They are playing the reigning League and Championship holders :-)
Where did ya get those odds?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4sam on August 16, 2013, 11:09:28 AM
Lads, follow this link and vote for your ulster all stars team. Don't forget to vote for your player of the year too.

http://www.irishnews.com/allstars/index.html
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on August 18, 2013, 10:57:42 AM
Anyone at any of the games yesterday? Seems to have been a couple of tight ones with Gowna shocking Kingscourt by a point and Crosserlough beating Lavey. What's the standard of football like in these games?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: comeysfield on August 19, 2013, 09:30:51 AM
Was at 3 games over the weekend standard not great but maybe early days yet
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on August 20, 2013, 12:51:15 PM
Quality hasn't been great. Ramor have looked the best team so far in the Senior Championship. Meet Gowna in the next ground. Ger Pierson had a few touches in the win against Kingscourt.. been fecked with injuries for the past 2 years.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on August 20, 2013, 01:34:08 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on August 20, 2013, 12:51:15 PM
Quality hasn't been great. Ramor have looked the best team so far in the Senior Championship. Meet Gowna in the next ground. Ger Pierson had a few touches in the win against Kingscourt.. been fecked with injuries for the past 2 years.

Its been a lot longer than that unfortunately for him and Cavan.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on August 20, 2013, 01:39:37 PM
He doesn't have the interest as such for Co Football. Did the cruciate in 2011 and it flared up again last year. Class player when he was on song for Cavan.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on August 20, 2013, 10:24:45 PM
He was playing some football before he did his cruciate the first time.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on August 20, 2013, 10:43:50 PM
He was playing mostly junior up to recently to get himself back into shape. As they say form is temporary, class is permanent. I personally would have said Gowna were on their way down this year,and would have struggled to stay in the senior championship,but they have been extremely impressive throughout this year. McCabe is back training/ playing also,so they will be  tricky opposition for Ramor on Sunday.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on August 20, 2013, 10:47:14 PM
Quote from: tommysmith on August 20, 2013, 10:24:45 PM
He was playing some football before he did his cruciate the first time.

Of course, sure he would  have done it playing. He actually did it before in 04/05 as well.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on August 21, 2013, 08:13:00 AM
Quote from: rodney trotter on August 20, 2013, 10:47:14 PM
Quote from: tommysmith on August 20, 2013, 10:24:45 PM
He was playing some football before he did his cruciate the first time.

Of course, sure he would  have done it playing. He actually did it before in 04/05 as well.

i though he fell out of bed  ;D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on August 21, 2013, 12:54:12 PM
Too much drink is bad for you Tommy.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on August 21, 2013, 06:11:45 PM
What age are you Rodney?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on August 21, 2013, 06:20:21 PM
 :) Says the fella who sticks up a picture from Facebook of lads having a piss.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on August 21, 2013, 06:29:56 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on August 21, 2013, 06:20:21 PM
:) Says the fella who sticks up a picture from Facebook of lads having a piss.

He was a pup  :D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on August 23, 2013, 09:20:12 PM
Lacken and Gaels level with 8 mins to go.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on August 23, 2013, 09:28:43 PM
1.13 each, gone to extra time
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on August 23, 2013, 09:59:23 PM
Gaels down to 14 men but up by 5, only 2 mins left.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on August 23, 2013, 10:12:10 PM
Gaels 2.17 Lacken 1.16
Entertaining
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on August 25, 2013, 07:48:53 PM
Dublin ahead by 1 at half time in Gerry Reilly final.. 8pts to 1-4.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on August 25, 2013, 09:10:06 PM
Dublin won by 0.15 to 1.5 I heard.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on August 25, 2013, 09:18:05 PM
Yeah, a disaster of a second half.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on August 27, 2013, 10:09:27 PM
Report from the game http://www.google.ie/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=gerry%20reilly%20final%20&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&ved=0CCsQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.oldcastlegfc.com%2Fgerry-reilly-u-16-ft&ei=6RQdUuaSL4GQ7Ab7mYGgDg&usg=AFQjCNFFGDOIRII-viMZHHIQSS6DX-xw8A
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on August 31, 2013, 10:19:56 AM
Good luck to the Cavan Ladies today in their all Ireland semi against Down in the park. Hopefully they can go on and win it out this time after the disappointment of 2 years ago.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on August 31, 2013, 04:06:09 PM
Cavan win 4.12 to 0.11. Very good display. Well done to all involved.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on August 31, 2013, 08:12:30 PM
The Goalkeeper, Grainne Smith, The Center Back, Donna English, Bronagh Sheridan all played very well. Another day out in Croker for us! Let's hope we can finish it out this time. Should have won it in 2011 but for Donna English picking up a yellow and some bizzare decisions on the line in the first game.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: nothingbettertobeat on September 02, 2013, 08:57:37 AM
what way does the Cavan Championship Work i see Cavan Gaels were beat at the weekend in championship but theyre still not out?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on September 02, 2013, 09:16:02 AM
Quote from: nothingbettertobeat on September 02, 2013, 08:57:37 AM
what way does the Cavan Championship Work i see Cavan Gaels were beat at the weekend in championship but theyre still not out?

They go into round 3 which is backdoor, play Kinsgcourt for a place in the Quarter finals.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: nothingbettertobeat on September 02, 2013, 09:51:25 AM
Quote from: rodney trotter on September 02, 2013, 09:16:02 AM
Quote from: nothingbettertobeat on September 02, 2013, 08:57:37 AM
what way does the Cavan Championship Work i see Cavan Gaels were beat at the weekend in championship but theyre still not out?

They go into round 3 which is backdoor, play Kinsgcourt for a place in the Quarter finals.

thanks Rodney.

SJ is hardly available for the championship following his move back?

who do you reckon will win the Cavan championship?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on September 02, 2013, 09:57:04 AM
Yeah the transfer has gone through so he should be available for the Kingscourt game. They could do with him back in the side.

Its very open to be honest, 3/4 sides could win it but I think Ramor will win it myself, they have a young team but have been playing great football all year. Top of Division 1 and have hammered Drumgoon and Gowna to reach the Quarter finals.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on September 03, 2013, 10:11:50 PM
Who are Southern Gaels in the Minor?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on September 03, 2013, 10:34:49 PM
Quote from: Westside on September 03, 2013, 10:11:50 PM
Who are Southern Gaels in the Minor?

Lacken and Gowna
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on September 04, 2013, 09:58:18 AM
Quote from: Westside on September 03, 2013, 10:11:50 PM
Who are Southern Gaels in the Minor?

Won the Division 2 Minor League this year, very strong side. Good forwards in Paul Leddy, Cian Bannon. I think they will have enough to get past  Templeport.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on September 04, 2013, 07:45:17 PM
It'd be a shock if they did Rodney but who knows. They're all good teams left at this stage.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on September 04, 2013, 08:02:29 PM
Having seen Southern Gaels plenty of times this year it wouldn't be a big surprise to be honest. Templeport got to the Minor League final and have done well in the championship ,so they will obviously be confident. Should be a decent game.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on September 04, 2013, 09:46:18 PM
Maybe not to you Rodney but to everyone else it would be, Templeport and Ramor have been the outstanding teams right through all the age grades at Division 1, Ramor will be the favourites to win it, followed by Templeport, any challenge to their dominance would be a shock. Admittedly though I haven't seen Southern Gaels so maybe they're better than I'm giving them credit for. Have you seen Templeport this year Rodney? It's always tough coming up against an amalgamation especially for teams low on numbers. Is it in Killeshandra?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on September 04, 2013, 09:52:10 PM
Ramor would be favs no doubt, I wasn't referring to winning it out,. Just the game they are involved in against Templeport. Yeah I saw the Minor League Final between Templeport and Ramor, that's what I am basing it on.

Its in Killeshandra yep.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on September 05, 2013, 11:19:11 PM
4 Ulster All Stars for Cavan players tonight - Killian Clarke, Mackey, Keating and Martin Dunne. Congrats to the lads and well deserved.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: comeysfield on September 06, 2013, 05:24:19 PM
Some turnaround Cavan with 4 Donegal 0 but I suppose they did have Sam for a year which has to be a wee bit of consolation
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on September 07, 2013, 01:03:11 PM
Can SJ play this week for the Gaels ?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on September 07, 2013, 03:40:42 PM
Quote from: tommysmith on September 07, 2013, 01:03:11 PM
Can SJ play this week for the Gaels ?

Saw the Celt there today and they're talking about Nico Walsh being home on holidays this week and possibly togging out for the Gaels...................Maloney Derham was togged out for a recent game wasn't he away in USA for a while, would be a lad to push into the County panel possibly if he was around and committed.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: nothingbettertobeat on September 09, 2013, 11:14:04 AM
Quote from: tommysmith on September 07, 2013, 01:03:11 PM
Can SJ play this week for the Gaels ?

Is the draw made for the next round in Cavan SFC Yet?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on September 09, 2013, 01:40:50 PM
The Pairings were made last week...

Mullahoran v Cavan Gaels
Lacken or Killygarry v Ballinagh
Ramor v Castlerahan
Crosserlough v Lavey
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on September 12, 2013, 10:07:21 PM
Castlerahan - Ramor has the makings of a good game on Sunday. Both teams play fluent football.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: comeysfield on September 13, 2013, 09:32:04 AM
Castlerahan do a lot of things but in the Gaels game they were far from Fluent, very very defensive outfit. Will be interesting to see how Ramor setup against them. This is a great draw for the Gaels as it will see one of the contenders out at this stage
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on September 13, 2013, 03:27:15 PM
 Cavan Gaels will be worrying about getting past Mullahoran, rather than thinking about a potential big team being knocked out. Mullahoran will put up a better test then Kinsgscourt did last week. Very poor performance. Barry Reilly and Clarke were poor for County players.
Castlerahan were set up defensive against the Gaels but used Mackey and Oisin O Connell very well in the half forward line. Ramor would probably be more direcet but Casterahan are well capable of playing good football.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on September 14, 2013, 01:46:48 PM
Sounds like Bboro v Cootehill was a shootout between Argue and Tom Hayes. Great to see our young county lads starring at club level.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on September 14, 2013, 08:47:51 PM
I think most of Argues scores were from frees today. Hayes hit 2-4 I think and won the penalty for the other goal. I havent seen that much of Hayes apart from the  couple of minor championship games. He strikes me as having a big work rate but hitting scores like that suggest something more. What do the rest of ye think, has he the "x" factor to be a really top inter county forward?

Crosserlough beat Lavey by 3 and Lacken beat Killygarry in their replay after extra time. Ballyhaise currently putting poor Swad to the sword.

The senior championship finally looks to have some serious competition in it and surely 4/5 teams in it still have a decent chance to win it out. I will be very interested to see how Ramor v C'Rahan and Mullaghoran v Cavan Gaels go.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on September 14, 2013, 08:58:24 PM
5 out of Argues 6pts were free's yesterday. Hayes is a good footballer but still 18, better to see how he develops with the u21's.. Good potential all the same
  Lacken play Ballinagh next Saturday in the quarter finals in Mullahoran, Should be a good local darby.



Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on September 15, 2013, 07:17:42 PM
Looks like Intermediate will be either Cootehill or Ballyhaise .
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on September 15, 2013, 09:07:40 PM
Castlerahan got past Ramor by 4 bit of a shock but not much. Very stop start game, Maggie Farrelly blew the whistle a bit much I thought. Mackey had a great game yet again, Barkey was in his face for the most of the game but he didn't let it affect him. Ronan Flanagan and Cian McEnroe also had good games. McEnroe should be a key player next year with the u21's.

Arva were deserving winners earlier on today. Play a nice brand of football. Bouchier and Ellis were impressive along with Gavin Doyle at midfield. Barry Doyle and Cormac Ceoghan were best for Cornafean.
Shannon Gaels - Kill was a dire game (Strong wind being a big factor, wasn't as bad for second game). Sean Gaffney was probably the stand out player. Led the comeback in the second half and kicked a few great free's.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: packiedevlin on September 16, 2013, 04:00:49 PM
Killeshandra v Drung was an awful game which wasn't helped by a terrible wind. Drung handled it much better and only for 2 monster frees from McKiernan, Killeshandra would have lost and deservedly so. Does anyone know why there was no extra time yesterday when in the senior championship last week between Lacken and Killygarry there was?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on September 16, 2013, 04:12:49 PM
Because the Lacken - Killygarry game wasn't a Quarter Final I'd imagine. It went to extra time on Saturday too. Had to speed it up with other teams already in the Quarter finals or having played the Quarter final game. Lacken have played 6 weeks in a row. Ballinagh game will be the 7th.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on September 21, 2013, 10:00:26 AM
Seanie's back, take it away lads
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on September 21, 2013, 11:48:15 AM
He was back last week. Decent first half last night but was largely anonymous in the second half. His point was a gem in the first half. Few bizzare calls by the ref. Declan Meehan was very impressive when he came on, only back from suspension.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on September 21, 2013, 12:57:00 PM
Martin Dunne still the main score getter. Time has moved on for SJ, he might discover the world doesn't revolve around him any more.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on September 21, 2013, 08:29:37 PM
Shercock shock Cootehill. Good game. Killeshandra 8 to 1 up on Drung but Drung just got a goal against run of play to get back into it.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on September 22, 2013, 09:23:32 AM
Was at the Gaels game on Friday evening and the two Intermediate games yesterday evening.

I think the Gaels will win the Senior now they have a very strong bench which made the difference the other night although if Mullahoran had of taken one of the half chances they had at goals they could have won it.  Very hard hitting game and was worth the entrance fee.

I was shocked by Cootehill in the Intermediate Semi Final.  That was the first time that I had seen them this year and it looks like they have gone away back from where they were last year.  Shercock were value for the win playing with a man down for the entire second half with Killan Clarke having a good game.

In the Quarter final replay Killeshandra got out of the blocks really quick and led by 7 points after 15 minutes and then went to sleep and let Drung back into it and only led by a point at half time. Drung started well in second half and went ahead but went for goals when they should have really being going for points let Killeshandra off the hook . Tomas Reilly started to influence the game and Killeshandra went on to win by 4.


Have not seen Ballyhaise play this year but you would expect them to win beat Killeshandra as they are playing a division higher but Shercock showed that doesn't matter.

Who ever wins will have there hands full with Shercock who are not that good a team but work hard and in Killian Clarke have a really good player.

Edit: Would have liked to have gone to Ballinagh and Lacken game but the County Board decided that it would cost anyone who wanted to do this and watch the other two games €20 so i gave it a miss.  Of course i could have hung around for an hour but that's a bit to much.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on September 22, 2013, 09:45:35 AM
Great chance for either Ballinagh - Crosserlough to make a final. Lacken with all the injuries and having played 6 championships games in consecutive weeks found it tough yesterday against d nagh. Ballinagh were a lot fresher. Kevin Smith was very good at half forward. No love lost between Ballinagh and Crosserlough being neighbours, so would expect it to be a hard hitting game.

Castlerahan won't fear the Gaels in the other Semi. Gaels are beginning to click, but Castlerahan are hard to break down and Mackey is in great form. Should be a good game as well.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: nothingbettertobeat on September 23, 2013, 02:03:41 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on September 22, 2013, 09:45:35 AM
Great chance for either Ballinagh - Crosserlough to make a final. Lacken with all the injuries and having played 6 championships games in consecutive weeks found it tough yesterday against d nagh. Ballinagh were a lot fresher. Kevin Smith was very good at half forward. No love lost between Ballinagh and Crosserlough being neighbours. So would expect it to be a hard hitting game.

Castlerahan won't fear the Gaels in the other Semi. Gaels are beginning to click, but Castlerahan are hard to break down and Mackey is in great form. Should be a good game as well.

rodney trotter im gonna shoot you if i get my hands on you!! u and your Ramor7-2. stuck them in with ballinderry13-8, Dublin seniors 13-8 Mayo minors 8-15 and Monaghan ladies 15-8 for 20 quid.lol im praying cork ladies or ballinascreen beat one of the other.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on September 23, 2013, 07:45:49 PM
Ha, they were a great price. But didn't live up to expectation against Castlerahan.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on September 28, 2013, 10:07:08 AM
Good luck to the Leaguers this evening in the Intermediate semi against Ballyhaise. Take it easy on us ballyhaiseman! Also all the best to the Cavan Ladies on Sunday in the AI final. They dont get enough discussion on here sadly but they deserve great credit and having watched the two semi finals I think  they have the better team and if they play to their potential they will win.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on September 28, 2013, 11:59:27 AM
I really expect the ladies to finish the job tomorrow. To my eye they have more class and more pace than Tipp. Players like Aisling Doonan and Bronagh Sheridan have been fantastic servants to Cavan Football it would be great to see them get their reward tomorrow. The Cup is named after our full back's Grandmother so it's only fitting we should take it home this time!

Going to take a trip to Killeshandra later to see Southern Gaels v Templeport. Great day for it hopefully it's a good game.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: gortnaleck on September 28, 2013, 05:16:29 PM
Westside, could ya please post a bit of a report on Tport
Game.Heard they won and would like some details. Can Ramor play
In Ulster Club if they win the Final
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on September 28, 2013, 05:45:04 PM
Templeport 3-15 Southern Gaels 1-14. Fantastic game of football. Templeport were the better side and led from 5 minutes in when Eoin Doonan slotted home.

Templeport went 8 ahead but credit to Southern Gaels they fought back and some clinical free taking kept them in touch and they hit a purple patch towards the last 5 minutes of the first half and went in just 2 points down at half time. Templeport started the brighter in the second half and tagged on a few points before Dillon Raythorne finished off a sweeping move for Templeport with a beauty of a goal, slotted it in the top corner.

Southern Gaels fought back and a long ball in caught out the Templeport full back and Southern Gaels got a goal to keep them in touch. They could have had another one but for an almost impossible save from Darren Donohoe. The game got messy from there as Templeport slowed things down. Templeport got a goal with the last kick of the game, they were the better side but the 7 point win flattered them somewhat.

As for players who stood out: Darren Donohoe had a fantastic game in goals for TP. His kick outs in the first half really gave Templeport the edge, picking out runs from midfielders, Cluxtonesque! One outstanding save at a crucial time and dealt with everything that was dropped in near him.
Up front I thought Eoin Doonan was outstanding. He hit 2 goals and a few points and won almost every ball that came his way. His point from the right wing in the second half was the score of the game. He did the simple things right and got his rewards. Between those 2 for Man of the Match.

Other than that Dillon Raythorne (Man of the match in the U16 Final on Monday night) was very good, and the McGoldricks in the corner back positions were good. The Southern Gales Number 9 and full forward were very good, as was their number 2.

Templeport look fantastic going forward but look a bit leaky in defence, giving away needless frees and leaving a lot of open space when they were 8 points up. First West Cavan Minor side to contest a Division 1 Final. Ramor have been the better of the two in the last few years and I don't think TP have beaten them since the U16 Div 1 League Final 2 years ago.

Ramor aren't an amalgamation so there would be no problem with them representing Cavan and as far as I'm aware even if they were an amalgamation they could still go on to represent us. O'Raghallaigh Gaels did so a few years ago.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: gortnaleck on September 28, 2013, 06:24:43 PM
Thanks very much,interesting that there's no mention of Galligan or Kiernan
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on September 28, 2013, 07:09:54 PM
Both worthy of mention (along with Ben Kelly) but I always expect great things from them so I decided to mention the more unsung heroes! Kiernan is a wonderful footballer and had a great game in truth, scored some fantastic points but the most impressive thing about him is his composure on the ball. So so reliable and the man you want to have possession when the game is in the melting pot. Galligan made one of the goals with a turnover, burst of pace and a perfectly timed pass.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on September 29, 2013, 06:22:57 PM
Well done to the Cavan ladies. Cavan has an all Ireland winning team!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: comeysfield on September 30, 2013, 09:44:46 AM
Gaels were in 100% cruise control against Castlerahan last night in the park. A little cynical maybe with Mackey in the first half. It will be very interesting to see how black cards change football next year. Anyways looking at the Gaels team sheet where right down to number 30 they have very credible senior footballers then it is going to be a Gaels championship
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on September 30, 2013, 09:51:18 AM
It was a disappointing performance by Castlerahan. Similar to the Semi final last year against Kingscourt. Games are not won by team sheets, but the Gaels will be clear favourites against Ballinagh after last nights performance.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on September 30, 2013, 06:07:44 PM
Gaels are red hot favorites now, serious panel of players they have now when they are all available.


Anyone on the main terrace notice Johnston getting into a pretty heated argument with the Gaels secretary near the end of the game. He had to be dragged away from him by one of the management team, but in fairness to the secretary he didn't seem interested in what Johnston had to say nor did Eamon Reilly who was trying to talk to the secretary at the time.

Another thing i noticed was that all the Gaels lads who were subbed got applauded off the field by the subs bench except Johnston.  I wonder how welcome he is in the club.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on September 30, 2013, 08:21:42 PM
He isn't even turning up to the Gaels training so maybe that is why the lads on the bench are not so welcoming.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on October 01, 2013, 01:42:17 PM
Looks like the Gaels will be rewarded for lack of loyalty to their own squad players. Cant see it happen but I hope Ballinagh beat them.

i was at the Killeshandra v Ballyhaise game on Saturday. Leaguers deserved their win and can thank a very good performance in their FB line and also a master display in midfield from Dec McKiernan. i thought Kevin Tierney was woeful for Ballyhaise. Now maybe he is injured but he showed no hunger for the game and was just jogging around the fringes easily marshalled by Daragh Tighe. Big difference between him and say McVeety for Crosserlough in the 2nd game where he bust his hole for his team.
Alas the 2nd game was very poor stuff indeed. The second half in particular was dire. 
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on October 02, 2013, 08:17:47 AM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on October 01, 2013, 01:42:17 PM

Alas the 2nd game was very poor stuff indeed. The second half in particular was dire.

Crosserlough could not get out of Intermediate so i don't think they have much business in Senior anyway.  They played nobody of note and got to a Semi Final.  Ballinagh are better than them but not a whole pile.

Gaels will win final handy enough.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on October 02, 2013, 03:06:11 PM
Whatever about Johnston not training with the Gaels? (He was injured for a while so couldn't train), he kicked some great scores last Sunday. Cavan don't have many natural inside players bar Dunne and I can see Johnston back on the panel next year if he continues in that type of form.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on October 02, 2013, 05:08:59 PM
Injured my hole.

If he is back on the Cavan panel I for one would have a very hard time to go watch them play. There is no way back for that lad in my opinion and I can't think why any sane manager would take a risk of disrupting what is very clearly a happy camp by re-introducing a fella who was well known to be a problem in the camp and I don't care how good he is (btw - he is not half as good as many think he is, hence he cant even make a Kildare team that wouldnt score in a brothel). For what it is worth I dont think Terry Hyland has any inclination to bring him back.

Cavan should stick with the lads that did the business last year and add a few of the U21's from last year and anyone else showing a bit of form for their clubs.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on October 02, 2013, 05:17:05 PM
 He didn't bomb Afganistan. If he is willing to work hard and play for the team he would be a good addition to the panel. But he might not be called back so who know's.  Barry McKiernan is worth a look, had a great season with Crosserlough.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on October 02, 2013, 06:30:51 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on October 02, 2013, 05:17:05 PM
He didn't bomb Afganistan. If he is willing to work hard and play for the team he would be a good addition to the panel. But he might not be called back so who know's.  Barry McKiernan is worth a look, had a great season with Crosserlough.

Hopefully he wont be back, i think Hyland has more cop on than to bring him back anyway.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on October 02, 2013, 06:47:55 PM
Quote from: tommysmith on October 02, 2013, 06:30:51 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on October 02, 2013, 05:17:05 PM
He didn't bomb Afganistan. If he is willing to work hard and play for the team he would be a good addition to the panel. But he might not be called back so who know's.  Barry McKiernan is worth a look, had a great season with Crosserlough.

Hopefully he wont be back, i think Hyland has more cop on than to bring him back anyway.

If a player is producing at Club level he would have to be considered like anyone else id say. Fermanagh took Gallagher back after he played with Cavan.

A good manager can deal with a disruptive player. Few others that impressed for me were Philip Tinnelly - Kingscourt,
Barry Doyle - Cornafean , Niall McKiernan - Lacken, Colin Lynch - Crosserlough, Tomas Reilly - Killeshandra
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on October 02, 2013, 08:21:19 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on October 02, 2013, 06:47:55 PM
Quote from: tommysmith on October 02, 2013, 06:30:51 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on October 02, 2013, 05:17:05 PM
He didn't bomb Afganistan. If he is willing to work hard and play for the team he would be a good addition to the panel. But he might not be called back so who know's.  Barry McKiernan is worth a look, had a great season with Crosserlough.

Hopefully he wont be back, i think Hyland has more cop on than to bring him back anyway.

If a player is producing at Club level he would have to be considered like anyone else id say. Fermanagh took Gallagher back after he played with Cavan.


And then he walked out on them again.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on October 02, 2013, 08:54:52 PM
Quote from: tommysmith on October 02, 2013, 08:21:19 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on October 02, 2013, 06:47:55 PM
Quote from: tommysmith on October 02, 2013, 06:30:51 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on October 02, 2013, 05:17:05 PM
He didn't bomb Afganistan. If he is willing to work hard and play for the team he would be a good addition to the panel. But he might not be called back so who know's.  Barry McKiernan is worth a look, had a great season with Crosserlough.

Hopefully he wont be back, i think Hyland has more cop on than to bring him back anyway.

If a player is producing at Club level he would have to be considered like anyone else id say. Fermanagh took Gallagher back after he played with Cavan.


And then he walked out on them again.

Along with about 10 other players. They wouldn't play under John O Neill. Gallagher played under Malachy O Rourke, left went O Neill was appointed.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on October 02, 2013, 09:32:54 PM
For years you've been getting off with fairly dodge looking birds, in fact you've went home with a few real moonpigs. You did pull a bird once that looked like a real stunner when she was dolled up but she treated you like shit and eventually you grew a pair of balls and told her where to go, more in hope that she'd cop herself on and treat you better because she did claim to love you. She moved away and started scoring some gym monkey instead and pretended you didn't exist. In fact one night she was back in town and made a point of going into the bar you frequent and wearing the face of this guy in front of you.

So you get your shit together, you get some new clothes, get a hairdo, work on your chat up lines and suddenly find yourself with a really good looking bird, she's dead sound and there's none of the usual bullshit with her, she's not expecting you to do the chasing, the type of girl you've been looking for. You really think this could be going somewhere, you're hitting it off and you've been out on a few really good dates lately. The ex-stunner walks into the bar one night, still looks pretty well but you're now noticing just how much make she wears. Things didn't work out between her and the gym monkey, he realised when he had her that he didn't really want her, you know that's the only reason she's back in town. You know for a fact that your new girl severely dislikes her and if she see you going over to her it's going to piss her off, might even ruin your chances.

What would you do?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: whats my name on October 02, 2013, 10:19:32 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on October 02, 2013, 05:08:59 PM
Injured my hole.

If he is back on the Cavan panel I for one would have a very hard time to go watch them play. There is no way back for that lad in my opinion and I can't think why any sane manager would take a risk of disrupting what is very clearly a happy camp by re-introducing a fella who was well known to be a problem in the camp and I don't care how good he is (btw - he is not half as good as many think he is, hence he cant even make a Kildare team that wouldnt score in a brothel). For what it is worth I dont think Terry Hyland has any inclination to bring him back.

Cavan should stick with the lads that did the business last year and add a few of the U21's from last year and anyone else showing a bit of form for their clubs.
Well said Myles. look at mackey for example dropped the same time as jelly, he didn't think he was better then cavan an go looking for a transfer to another county he put his head down got is act together and worked hard and could be nominated for an all star this year for his efforts. why didn't jelly do the same instead he threw the toys out of the pram and took the huff no one player should think hes better then the county.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on October 02, 2013, 10:30:59 PM
Quote from: Westside on October 02, 2013, 09:32:54 PM
For years you've been getting off with fairly dodge looking birds, in fact you've went home with a few real moonpigs. You did pull a bird once that looked like a real stunner when she was dolled up but she treated you like shit and eventually you grew a pair of balls and told her where to go, more in hope that she'd cop herself on and treat you better because she did claim to love you. She moved away and started scoring some gym monkey instead and pretended you didn't exist. In fact one night she was back in town and made a point of going into the bar you frequent and wearing the face of this guy in front of you.

So you get your shit together, you get some new clothes, get a hairdo, work on your chat up lines and suddenly find yourself with a really good looking bird, she's dead sound and there's none of the usual bullshit with her, she's not expecting you to do the chasing, the type of girl you've been looking for. You really think this could be going somewhere, you're hitting it off and you've been out on a few really good dates lately. The ex-stunner walks into the bar one night, still looks pretty well but you're now noticing just how much make she wears. Things didn't work out between her and the gym monkey, he realised when he had her that he didn't really want her, you know that's the only reason she's back in town. You know for a fact that your new girl severely dislikes her and if she see you going over to her it's going to piss her off, might even ruin your chances.

What would you do?

Ride both of them.
As for Jelly however, there would have to be a squad vote before he was recalled, You just had to see the reaction of Niall McDermott and Fergal Flangan, two key members of this team at present, to him when he scored that point for Kildare to know that there will be certain players on that panel that will want nothing to do with him and certainly won't want him on the panel. The question is how prevalent  that particular view is throughout the panel.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on October 02, 2013, 10:47:17 PM
I think the likes of Fergal Flanagan and McDermott would have moved on a bit since the
Kildare - Cavan game. That was over a year ago.

The likes of Ronan Flanagan, Mackey, McKeever are good mates with Johnston, obviously Martin Dunne too.

Anyone at the Gaels- Castlerahan game could see he is still good enough.

Mackey worked hard that year he was off the pane and got back on it, but he wasn't approached by McGeeney., Johnston was.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on October 02, 2013, 10:51:07 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on October 02, 2013, 10:47:17 PM


Anyone at the Gaels- Castlerahan game could see he is still good enough.


He may be good enough but what i seen he is still a trouble maker who has a chip on his shoulder.

If that's the type of person you would want on a county panel fair enough but i would prefer if he was no where near it.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on October 02, 2013, 11:04:21 PM
Quote from: tommysmith on October 02, 2013, 10:51:07 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on October 02, 2013, 10:47:17 PM


Anyone at the Gaels- Castlerahan game could see he is still good enough.


He may be good enough but what i seen he is still a trouble maker who has a chip on his shoulder.
If that's the type of person you would want on a county panel fair enough but i would prefer if he was no where near it.

Hyland wouldn't let a trouble maker on the team, he would change his mentality to be part of the current panel. If he not called back, so be it, thereis good young players coming through,
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on October 03, 2013, 07:24:20 AM
Quote from: tommysmith on October 02, 2013, 10:51:07 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on October 02, 2013, 10:47:17 PM


Anyone at the Gaels- Castlerahan game could see he is still good enough.


He may be good enough but what i seen he is still a trouble maker who has a chip on his shoulder.

If that's the type of person you would want on a county panel fair enough but i would prefer if he was no where near it.

Any return would involve him showing some regret, perhaps even an apology to the Cavan players and fans for what he put Cavan football through. However what I see and hear is like Tommy said, an unreformed character still arguing with his own club (Sectretary at Rahan match, apparently expecting an apology from the Gaels and transferring back to them without even informing the club secretary) and showing no humility.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on October 03, 2013, 09:33:16 PM
Really didn't want Armagh.. But it could have been worse. Means nothing right now anyways.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on October 03, 2013, 11:12:56 PM
Quote from: Westside on October 02, 2013, 09:32:54 PM
For years you've been getting off with fairly dodge looking birds, in fact you've went home with a few real moonpigs. You did pull a bird once that looked like a real stunner when she was dolled up but she treated you like shit and eventually you grew a pair of balls and told her where to go, more in hope that she'd cop herself on and treat you better because she did claim to love you. She moved away and started scoring some gym monkey instead and pretended you didn't exist. In fact one night she was back in town and made a point of going into the bar you frequent and wearing the face of this guy in front of you.

So you get your shit together, you get some new clothes, get a hairdo, work on your chat up lines and suddenly find yourself with a really good looking bird, she's dead sound and there's none of the usual bullshit with her, she's not expecting you to do the chasing, the type of girl you've been looking for. You really think this could be going somewhere, you're hitting it off and you've been out on a few really good dates lately. The ex-stunner walks into the bar one night, still looks pretty well but you're now noticing just how much make she wears. Things didn't work out between her and the gym monkey, he realised when he had her that he didn't really want her, you know that's the only reason she's back in town. You know for a fact that your new girl severely dislikes her and if she see you going over to her it's going to piss her off, might even ruin your chances.

What would you do?



Jesus Westside did you mean to post this on the Holidays In California Thread?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on October 04, 2013, 12:14:54 AM
It was unusual reading that in the middle of discussing Johnston.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on October 04, 2013, 12:51:41 AM
I liked Westside post tbh.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on October 04, 2013, 09:57:58 AM
Suppose a bonus to have to 2 women on the go..

The County team are playing the Club All Stars selection in November. No date or venue released yet.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on October 04, 2013, 11:31:43 AM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on October 04, 2013, 12:51:41 AM
I liked Westside post tbh.

Liked your answer even better to be fair
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: comeysfield on October 04, 2013, 02:28:39 PM
i think you just stay with the nice girl because there is a good chance that the GYM Monkey tore the hole of the other one
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on October 04, 2013, 04:25:32 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on October 04, 2013, 09:57:58 AM
Suppose a bonus to have to 2 women on the go..

The County team are playing the Club All Stars selection in November. No date or venue released yet.

It's in munterconnaught on the 16 or17
th November.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on October 04, 2013, 06:59:35 PM
Ah yeah , they are hosting the Club All Stars, cheers
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on October 05, 2013, 12:13:17 PM
Belated well done to Cavan ladies. UP ARVA!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on October 05, 2013, 11:53:17 PM
Keating was on form for Sylvesters  Friday night http://www.hoganstand.com/ArticleForm.aspx?ID=202225
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on October 08, 2013, 09:12:52 PM
Cavan got tough start in next years u21championship. Away to Derry in preliminary round, a win would see them play Tyrone.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on October 08, 2013, 09:16:05 PM
Luck was going to change at some stage. Cavan u21's have got some good fortune with home ties since 2010,. Derry will have Ryan Bell in the ranks. The Seniors would know all about him.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: county derry post on October 10, 2013, 12:11:12 PM
Ten of Ulster's foremost GAA personalities will be on hand this Saturday as the 'Superstars Challenge' is officially launched at Bellaghy GAA (11am).



Based on the International Superstars idea, the event is an all-around sports competition that pits elite athletes from different sports against one another in a series of athletic events resembling a decathlon.

With the Challenge due to take place on 28th December, all proceeds raised will go to Marie Curie Cancer Care – an organisation playing a vital role in supporting cancer sufferers and their families.

The organisers believe the event – a first for the GAA – will capture the imagination of the general public building up to the unique December show-down.

Former Derry footballer and member of the organising committee, Ronan Rocks, explained what the next few months will involve:

"We will have our launch this weekend but that's only the start.

"The key fundraising campaign centres around ten star GAA players from throughout Ulster participating in a series of events throughout the day. We feel this event will appeal to the wider community. To have ten high profile sporting stars competing against each other in a unique event will obtain the much needed funds as well as generate a vast awareness of the event and associated sponsors throughout."

Already ahead of the game, organisers have set up Twitter (@SuperSCh) and Facebook pages to keep people informed and up to date with latest developments.

Ten local companies have already agreed sponsorship of the participants and it is hoped that the wider public will contribute further to what will be a unique event this December.

The 2013 event will also seek to raise awareness for another worthy cause, as Rocks explains:

"We have also decided that through this campaign we want to continue to raise awareness for the "Opt for Life" campaign and we are delighted to have Joe Brolly, who is a strong campaigner for this worthy cause, within our fundraising committee." explained Rocks.

Further event information and background

Athletes can compete in up to eight of the ten events, with no-one generally allowed to take part in their own sport, although some handicapping rules do apply.

Competitors participate in a range of different sporting events, including a 100m sprint, 800 metres (0.50 mi) run, obstacle course or Steeplechase, weightlifting, football, rowing, tennis, basketball, bicycle racing, shooting and swimming. The sports used have varied over time and between the various international competitions.

Points are awarded for the position in which the competitor places in each event. The competitor with the most points at the end of all the events is declared the champion.

How would you like to see Ulster GAA's Finest compete in such an event???

Could Ryan Bell beat Marty McGrath in a full length of the field sprint???

Could Aaron Kernan do more press ups than Michael McCann???

Could Owen Mulligan bench press more than Kieran Hughes???

Just some of the examples that only a Superstars challenge could bring!

Competitors:

(1) Ryan Bell (Derry) Nicholl Oils
(2) Owen Mulligan (Tyrone) O'Neills
(3) Michael McCann (Antrim) Creagh Concrete
(4) Eamon McGee (Donegal) H & A Mechanical
(5) Darren Hughes (Monaghan) Bannvale Credit Union
(6) Kevin McKernan (Down) Mac Trailers
(7) Marty McGrath (Fermanagh) DPD
(8) Marty Dunne (Cavan) Kingspan
(9) Aaron Kernan (Armagh) SDC
(10) Fergal Doherty (Bellaghy) Specialist Joinery Fittings
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanforever on October 10, 2013, 03:12:39 PM
I would have full faith in Martin Dunne winning any press up or bench press competition  ;D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: packiedevlin on October 11, 2013, 12:17:19 PM
Any thoughts on how both finals will go the weekend? Id imagine the Gaels will walk the senior final. Did Eamon Reilly get sent off in the last 2 championship games (both yellow cards), whats the story there? Is he suspended?
The Intermediate final should be a lot closer, hard to know what way it will go. The Celt are tipping Shercock by one.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on October 11, 2013, 12:28:46 PM
Ballinagh have a good record against the Gaels and I can't see the Gaels walking it. A defence combing of Carroll, McInerney and Niall Reilly would be hard to break down. David Finnegan missed the Semi and will be possibly be back fit to start midfield/half forward, very good footballer. Half forward is good with Kevin Smith, Terry Smith, and maybe Thomas Moore if not inside. McDermott will do damage inside and Gumley.

Don't think there will be much in it at all. Eamon Reilly will be able to play.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on October 12, 2013, 05:16:22 PM
Intermediate final is off due to a bereavement in Shercock. Fixed for next Sunday, not sure what time.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on October 13, 2013, 05:14:47 PM
10 mins into 2nd half in senior final. Nagh 10 Gaels 7. Anthony "jaws" Gaynor after coming on. Could be huge shock here.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on October 13, 2013, 05:38:28 PM
Nagh win 12 to 11. Gaynor sent off (no shock there)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on October 13, 2013, 05:39:57 PM
Some win for the Nagh, they were 5/1. Finished 13-12 .. not surprised myself.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on October 13, 2013, 05:41:36 PM
Sorry yes 13 to 12 it was but I was surprised.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on October 13, 2013, 05:45:50 PM
Anthony Gaynor wasn't sent off. It was Lyng for the Gaels.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on October 13, 2013, 05:54:31 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on October 13, 2013, 05:45:50 PM
Anthony Gaynor wasn't sent off. It was Lyng for the Gaels.

Gaynor was sent off.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on October 13, 2013, 05:55:07 PM
Great result, made my day ;D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on October 13, 2013, 05:59:33 PM
Gaynor was put off for def.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on October 13, 2013, 09:11:01 PM
Went with Lyng , didn't notice him going. Last gasp stuff. It was 12-11 scoreline playing tricks on me.

Cavan Gaels have gone 2 years without a Senior Championship, good for other teams to break through and not have it as boring as the Armagh Championship or Antrim.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on October 13, 2013, 11:06:35 PM
I hope the Nagh can get focused again for Ulster. Roslea are beatable and if they can do that they will be in the semi. Great to see a team win their 1st senior and not the Gaels again although I see on twitter many of the young Gaels lads being very gracious in defeat.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on October 13, 2013, 11:57:14 PM
A change is as good as a rest. I wonder how the Castlerahan lads are feeling now after seeing this what-might-have-been?

Hopefully Ballinagh will give Ulster a rattle now...but I expect they might find it difficult to re-calibrate their ambitions in the wake of this historic win. Fair play to them anyway.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on October 14, 2013, 08:54:01 AM
Roslea game will be played in Enniskillen, if they were to get past Roslea they would be meet St Galls or the Donegal Champions in Semi.

Roslea would be a decent side, but I saw on another thread where Seamus and Sean Quigley both got straight red cards in a League Semi yesterday, which would rule them out of Ulster Club I'd imagine. Got 1-10 between them in Fermanagh championship final. I couldn't see Ballinagh getting past Galls though if they get that far but who know's.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: packiedevlin on October 14, 2013, 10:30:13 AM
Well done to Ballinagh, thoroughly deserved yesterday and good call Rodney, you said it would be close.
They nearly lost it though and you'd have to question Reilly and the management team on the bringing on the comedy show Gaynor, they were in total control until that point and when he came on they lost focus and were nearly caught out. This fella should be one of the best players in the county but hes completely lost his way and all he wanted to do was fight, poor decision bringing him on.
The Gaels were very poor. Why was Maloney-Derham full back against McDermott? Very strange decision. Also bringing on players that had played very little senior football e.g. Gavin Duffy, Sean Reilly. Crotty starting as well (played very little) and possibly lucky not to get a second yellow.
Tough year and a half for Seanie, 2 counties, 3 clubs (incl. hurling) and no silverware, where does he go next ....
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: comeysfield on October 14, 2013, 10:57:26 AM
Huge win for the Nagh and fair play. Also well done to Reilly as manager two county championships with two clubs. In fairness I think Gaynor can count himself a little unlucky to have got the two Yellows.  A great display by Podge at the middle of the field showed real heart. Ballinagh must have won every 50/50 ball also Eamonn Reilly on the wing was strange. The gaels setup was all a bit strange. Huge congratulations to Ballinagh, just could not understand why more quick ball did not go to inside Gaels line. Also Paul O'Connor going off was a loss but they should have been able to get over that
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on October 14, 2013, 11:50:39 AM
I think the signs were there earlier in the Championship, Lacken should have beaten them the second time round, and lost after extra time, Casterahan beat Cavan Gaels earlier in the championship. Johnston coming back into the team gave more fire power but they weren't overly convincing against Mullahoran in the Quarter finals. Mullahoran started without Dermot Sheridan. only came on for the last ten minutes and without Michael Brady through suspension.
Gaels were impressive no doubt in the Semi but I think people were reading too much into that, they were no great shakes before then, and Castlerahan didn't perform on the day.

Ballinagh beat the Gaels a few weeks ago in the League and generally do well against the Gaels, they wouldn't have had the fear of say Denn who lost against the Gaels 2 years in a row.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: packiedevlin on October 14, 2013, 12:04:31 PM
True, the Gaels were doing just enough to get through games. I thought the referees performance yesterday was shocking, he gave pretty much nothing to Ballinagh through out the whole game! Would've been better off with Packie reffing and that's saying something!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on October 14, 2013, 12:50:30 PM
That's true they had to beat the gales and the referee.

Fair play to them though they were the best team on the pitch yesterday.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on October 14, 2013, 05:44:53 PM
Fair play to the young Gaels lads they were very gracious in defeat going by their twitter messages. Nice to see.

I saw the Fermanagh Final Highlights on TG4 and everything went through the Quigleys. A different prospect altogether than Seanie Dunne and O'Connor but I'm sure they'd be well up to it. I would imagine it will be a lack of options up front that will be Ballinagh's undoing eventually.

Great to see Podge going well and picking up MOTM. He's soldiered for Cavan for a long time and he's still only coming into his prime years. I'm sure it hurt to be left out of the squad for most of the year (not sure if it was due to injury) but he was there on the line with the team. Delighted for the lad. 
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on October 14, 2013, 05:52:59 PM
Both Quigleys were sent off yesterday , in a League Semi, and will miss the Ballinagh game...
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on October 14, 2013, 06:42:05 PM
Great chance for Ballinagh then so! I see Gaynor posted a facebook photo of his bet slip. He had 200 on Ballinagh at 7/1. Hoganstand reporting it..
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on October 14, 2013, 07:14:51 PM
Fair play to him...
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: From the Bunker on October 14, 2013, 07:27:16 PM
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Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on October 14, 2013, 07:28:56 PM
I wonder does he post up the ones he loses like the 200e bet  he puts on at 10/1 on him actually starting and finishing a game!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on October 14, 2013, 08:03:39 PM
Never dull with Antonio.

Ballinagh would be our biggest rivals but still happy for them that they won, although with a full team in the quarter final I think we could have beaten them, but nonetheless

Saw this on livegaelic.com clip from 1990 County Final , tough looking stuff http://t.co/P7c4ypvHBb
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: packiedevlin on October 15, 2013, 10:44:34 AM
He probably bet on himself being sent off though you probably get very poor odds on that by now!!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on October 16, 2013, 09:24:22 AM
Home game against Fermanagh in first League game, then away to Offaly, then away to Wexford, home to Sligo, away to Longford, home to Roscommmon and away to Limerick in final game.

Some tough away games, Wexford and the local darby with Longford. How many years in a row is it now, that Cavan have had more away League games then home,
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on October 16, 2013, 10:48:04 AM
Draw is a joke. It should alternate every year how many home and away games you get. We get fucked with this every year.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on October 16, 2013, 12:08:53 PM
Yeah it should alternate. It will be well earned if Cavan do get promotion next year.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on October 16, 2013, 06:13:56 PM
Very very tough draw. Longford and Wexford away will be extremely difficult games. The one bonus over the past few years is that we get an opener at home, win that and you're on the front foot. I suppose the flip side is if you lose your first home game when you only have 3 you're then staring down the barrel. Division 3 really is a nightmare to get out of.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on October 17, 2013, 07:33:44 AM
We just have to win that first game or its curtains I reckon. Really bad draw for us but then again we have shown we are good enough to beat any of those teams if we play to our maximum.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
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Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: packiedevlin on October 17, 2013, 01:43:55 PM
I think it normally does rotate, well it has for us anyway. I think last year Fermanagh were giving out as they had 4 away games 3 years in a row but they were being promoted and relegated in that time.
In 2012 we had 4 home, 3 away so its only now (2013, 2014) that we're having 4 away games 2 years running.
First game is crucial though, it was probably the first game in Antrim last year that cost us.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on October 18, 2013, 08:42:10 PM
Many going to the game tomorrow night i hear tickets are selling very slow.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on October 18, 2013, 09:05:11 PM
I'm going but the lack of any Cavan players involved would mute local interest. Weather will also have a big influence.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on October 18, 2013, 09:09:32 PM
Not every day an Irish team plays in Cavan, I'll be going anyway, Weather has been shite which is a pity.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on October 18, 2013, 09:18:45 PM
The ground will be half empty by the sounds of thing which is a pity but i guess there is not a big interest in it and the way the weather is it will turn off any late comers.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on October 18, 2013, 09:21:13 PM
Where are you hearing this? Over 20,000 tickets had been sold earlier in the week
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on October 18, 2013, 10:19:12 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on October 18, 2013, 09:21:13 PM
Where are you hearing this? Over 20,000 tickets had been sold earlier in the week

Really i heard today that only half that was sold which i was surprised at.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on October 20, 2013, 09:51:58 PM
Well done to the Leaguers today. Huge result for the club. They put in a massive 2nd half to pip Shercock right at the end. I was very impressed with Shercock, for a long time they looked the likely winners and will rue a couple of bad misses near the end of the 2nd half. However Killeshandras main men came to the fore when it mattered, Dec McKiernan kicking an outrageous free to put us in front as well as starting to win the dirty ball in the middle and Colm Duffy, Dara Tighe and Conor Smith began to dominate their individual battles.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: CC1 on October 20, 2013, 10:53:32 PM
Sickened... :( Well done leaguers...
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on October 21, 2013, 08:18:58 AM
Quote from: CC1 on October 20, 2013, 10:53:32 PM
Sickened... :( Well done leaguers...

Missed goals chances when maybe points would have been better and some stupid fouling near the end was the reason that Killeshandra have the cup and Shercock don't.  I think some Shercock players lost there nerve with the finishing line approaching.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: CC1 on October 21, 2013, 01:11:37 PM
Quote from: tommysmith on October 21, 2013, 08:18:58 AM
Quote from: CC1 on October 20, 2013, 10:53:32 PM
Sickened... :( Well done leaguers...

Missed goals chances when maybe points would have been better and some stupid fouling near the end was the reason that Killeshandra have the cup and Shercock don't.  I think some Shercock players lost there nerve with the finishing line approaching.
Possibly so, still can't fault anybody for the effort they put in. Declan's free taking was the difference. Savage score on the outside of his boot near the end. Worthy of winning any match.

Congrats Myles, hope the bars have plenty of supplies over in Killeshandra to do you the week...
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on October 21, 2013, 04:40:26 PM
Well done to Killeshandra yesterday , it could have been a treble of local Clubs winning Senior - Intermediate -Junior, if Arva hadn't of thrown away the lead in the Junior Final. But they are a young side and will bounce back.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on October 21, 2013, 05:45:13 PM
Quote from: CC1 on October 21, 2013, 01:11:37 PM
Quote from: tommysmith on October 21, 2013, 08:18:58 AM
Quote from: CC1 on October 20, 2013, 10:53:32 PM
Sickened... :( Well done leaguers...

Missed goals chances when maybe points would have been better and some stupid fouling near the end was the reason that Killeshandra have the cup and Shercock don't.  I think some Shercock players lost there nerve with the finishing line approaching.
Possibly so, still can't fault anybody for the effort they put in. Declan's free taking was the difference. Savage score on the outside of his boot near the end. Worthy of winning any match.

Congrats Myles, hope the bars have plenty of supplies over in Killeshandra to do you the week...

Forgot you were Shercock CC1. Hard luck, ye had a much more organised look about ye for most of that match and also looked a stronger team than us. Lacked a killer instinct up front and panic set in when ye had the half chances for goals that should have been tipped over. Declan and Killian Clarke and Shankey had a great battle and I think Declan won it in the 2nd half when it was really in the melting pot. Unfortunately for me I couldnt stay around on the session after which was a pain but I'm delighted for the lads anyway. I think Shercock are one for the future though.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: packiedevlin on October 22, 2013, 12:44:56 PM
I would have to agree with Myles in that Shercock panicked near the end with those 3 goal chances, if they had have taken points instead I dont think Killeshandra would have come back. Joe Masterson made a great save for one of those chances, I wonder will he get a call in for the U21s next year? Also, I think man of the match Colm Duffy deserves a trial at least with the county, hes been very consistent this year. The corner forward Clerkin was very good, he gave Conor Smith a roasting and had to be taken off him. Was he on the county minor panel this year? I think hes only 18.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on October 22, 2013, 02:38:25 PM
Is Colm Duffy not around 29? Be a late developer for a player that has never played Senior County before. Worth a run in the McKenna Cup I suppose. Thomas Reilly would be worth another run I think, plenty of ability.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: packiedevlin on October 22, 2013, 03:48:41 PM
Yep he's 29 but as you say no harm giving him a run in the McKenna cup. Agree Reilly has plenty of ability but I doubt his work rate, hes good going forward but doesnt do the defensive work, even when playing in midfield.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on October 22, 2013, 03:59:12 PM
Yeah, I'd probably agree. Killeshandra have a home game against the Antrim Champions in Ulster Club. No easy games in Ulster , but good to have a home draw.

If Ballinagh settle down from the partying I think they can get past Roslea, who are missing their 2 best forwards. Sean and Seamus Quigley through suspension.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Blue in hope on October 23, 2013, 02:28:14 PM
Joe O Connor gone as manager of Cavan Gaels not seeing out the league campagin. Same thing happened Michael Graham last year gone before season ended. In 2011 Darren Chapman was gone after winning county title,there one year,in 2010 Gareth Coyle removed mid year to be replaced by Damien Cassidy who was gone after final loss to Kingscourt. In 2009 Mick O Dowd got shafted after the players lost discipline against St Galls in Ulster having four men sent off.

They will have some job to find anyone to take them over in 2014. The players have to much power!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on October 23, 2013, 03:19:15 PM
Sure maybe Seanie could be player manager.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Blue in hope on October 23, 2013, 03:43:16 PM
I hear Seanie is going to manage the U-16s next year.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on October 23, 2013, 05:00:01 PM
He may have stayed if he wasn't assaulted by one of his players.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on October 23, 2013, 10:16:34 PM
The Gaels will never have much bother finding a manager with such an amount of potential at their disposal.

When do Ballinagh take on Roslea?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on October 23, 2013, 10:45:36 PM
Also, Quigleys cleared to play which will make the task a lot harder.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on October 23, 2013, 10:54:36 PM
Quote from: tommysmith on October 23, 2013, 05:00:01 PM
He may have stayed if he wasn't assaulted by one of his players.

What's this? I feel sorry for the young lads in that club. Thank god the nagh won that final.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on October 24, 2013, 08:06:51 AM
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Quote from: Westside on October 23, 2013, 10:45:36 PM
Also, Quigleys cleared to play which will make the task a lot harder.
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One of the Quigleys was suppose to be making an appeal, They play Sunday week.

Whatever happened in the Gaels is their own business ,lads don't reveal their own clubs and like to talk about other clubs.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on October 24, 2013, 01:12:41 PM
Quotelads don't reveal their own clubs and like to talk about other clubs.

So true Rodney
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on October 24, 2013, 01:13:43 PM
Surely is Tommy. )
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on October 25, 2013, 02:10:14 PM
Belturbet have conceded tonight's relegation play off. Sad to think that a town the size of Belturbet couldn't muster 15 players. Their team has been decimated by immigration.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on October 25, 2013, 02:50:14 PM
They were hammered 2 weeks ago against Crosserough in the League play off. Had a disastrous year, don't have an awful lot coming through. Bud Fitzpatrick was a huge loss and Garreth Fitzpatrick, among others.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on October 25, 2013, 08:18:58 PM
Mark Teevan, Conor Vaughan both gone to England. Johnny Klusch injured. Enda Henry gone to Australia. Huge losses and sadly I can only see the fall continuing.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on October 25, 2013, 09:37:58 PM
Teevan was just in England for the summer, he was playing against Crosserlough. Jason has featured very little too,  due to managing lacken.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on October 28, 2013, 12:29:36 PM
U21 panel for next year will probably be put together soon if it hasnt been already. I was looking back at the match program from our minor ulster in 2011 and these are the lads that were on the panel (and so will be U21 this season coming). Anyone any ideas on who else might be in with a shout?

Billy O Mara - Bailieboro
Killian Clarke - Shercock
Francis Moore – Ballyhaise
Brian Sankey - Shercock
Ciaran Brady – Arva
Conor Moynagh – Drumgoon
Gerard Smith – Lavey
Liam Buchanan – Ballymchugh
Paul Graham – Cavan Gaels
Andrew Dewart –Gowna
Conor Fineegan – Lacken
Michael Argue – Bailieboro
Andrew Graham – Cavan Gaels
Joe Dillon – Kingscourt
Kevin Bouchier – Arva
James Farrelly – Kingscourt
Conor Smith – Killeshandra
Dara McVeety – Crosserlough
Jonathon McCabe – Arva
Nevin O Donnell – Shannon Gaels
Vincent Coyle – Gaels
Gary Tubmann – Drumlane
Darren Monaghan – Lavey
James Bradley - Ramor
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on October 28, 2013, 12:39:06 PM
James Galligan - Lacken will be likely to be involved  with the panel, played in the Hastings Cup this year. Conor Madden obviously will be there , Tom Hayes from Cootehill would be on the panel too I'd imagine, Minor Captain from this year. 
Greg McGovern from Swanlinbar will probably be around the panel too. Niall Walsh - Shannon Gaels should be be around the fringe of the panel too. Niall Clerkin - Shercock would be another. Plenty of others too.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on October 28, 2013, 12:52:12 PM
Looks like a strong enough panel but as said before the draw is a tough one. 4 in a row ulster would be simply outstanding, I think only Tyrone did that before.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on October 28, 2013, 12:58:57 PM
Tough draw no doubt, wouldn't be looking past Derry, they have some class players at this level for next year  like
Emmet Bradley, Ryan Bell, Conor McAtamney.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on October 28, 2013, 03:04:03 PM
I heard last night that Galligan, Ben Kiernan Greg McGovern, Benjamin Kelly are all in the preliminary squad. Hopefully Clarke, Argue, McVitty, Gerard Smith can continue last year's form. All capable of making a huge impact at this level. Extremely tough draw though.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on October 28, 2013, 04:14:28 PM
A Conor Moynagh, mcveety and Ger smith half back line sounds exciting. Argue and Clarke midfield also is strong. Do we have the forwards to do the damage. Madden is powerful but I think we need Nevin back 100% fit as he has a bit of class. How good is Tom Hayes?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanforever on October 28, 2013, 06:36:53 PM
James Galligan, Conor Finnegan, Kevin Mulvaney and Shane Kelly didnt make the panel. Surprising as all were involved last year
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on October 28, 2013, 06:40:08 PM
Conor had some injuries this year, still a surprise, thought Galligan would have been involved,

Would like to see McVeety play further forward in his best position of half forward where he normally plays for his club. Done well all the same at half back this year.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on October 28, 2013, 07:52:56 PM
You reckon Clake will go to Midfield? I think Clarke should be left at full back and Sankey left at midfield or Greg McGovern possibly to pair up with Argue. At Minor Level it was Andy Graham and Conor Finnegan in the full forward line with Bouchier roaming. I don't think Graham is combative enough at this level to earn a starting place and Finnegan hasn't got a look in since Minor. I reckon Tom Hayes has what it takes to step straight into the team. The few times I have seen him he's been top class. Not convinced by O'Donnell, he had a decent game in the 2012 Ulster Final which was his first start that year but was awful against Roscommon and hasn't featured since because of injuries. What about Cian McEnroe?

Long way to go until the Championship starts though and I'm sure many players will improve and regress in that time. Look at McVeety, went from being unable to gain a starting position on the 2011 Minor team to a Senior player in 2013.

Anyone willing to put their neck out and name a team or are we getting ahead of ourselves!?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on October 28, 2013, 08:00:48 PM
Clarke is too good an athlete to leave at full back. I'd put Sankey there. It is probably too early to name a team but I think I could make a stab from backs to midfield. Its the forwards I'm not so sure about.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on October 28, 2013, 08:27:39 PM
You could be right.. It's a tough call to make but looking back at last year's Championship Clarke was such a presence in the full back line when the going got tough at both Senior and U21 I think it would be a shame to take him out of there. Especially when 2 of Argue, McGovern and Sankey are capable of forming a competitive midfield.

In the forwards I reckon Dillon, Boucher, Paul Graham, Hayes, Madden an an other could be a decent forward line. It's likely Peter will stick to the same philosophy of patient play controlling the tempo of the game. Wouldn't be surprised to see Ben Kiernan get a spot based on that notion.

Haven't seen Niall Walsh play in a while how has he been getting on at club level?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanforever on October 28, 2013, 09:15:26 PM
Enda Flanagan could be an option for corner forward. Made the panel also
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on October 28, 2013, 09:15:39 PM
Quote from: Westside on October 28, 2013, 07:52:56 PM
You reckon Clake will go to Midfield? I think Clarke should be left at full back and Sankey left at midfield or Greg McGovern possibly to pair up with Argue. At Minor Level it was Andy Graham and Conor Finnegan in the full forward line with Bouchier roaming. I don't think Graham is combative enough at this level to earn a starting place and Finnegan hasn't got a look in since Minor. I reckon Tom Hayes has what it takes to step straight into the team. The few times I have seen him he's been top class. Not convinced by O'Donnell, he had a decent game in the 2012 Ulster Final which was his first start that year but was awful against Roscommon and hasn't featured since because of injuries. What about Cian McEnroe?

Long way to go until the Championship starts though and I'm sure many players will improve and regress in that time. Look at McVeety, went from being unable to gain a starting position on the 2011 Minor team to a Senior player in 2013.
Anyone willing to put their neck out and name a team or are we getting ahead of ourselves!?

Dara started the final against Armagh, scored 3pts from wing back in the Semi against Tyrone, was it the Antrim game he didn't start? Fairly sure he started against Galway in the All Ireland Quarter final that year too
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on October 28, 2013, 09:37:20 PM
He didn't start the Antrim game.. Don't know why it was in my head that he didn't start the Armagh game! I thought he came on as a sub, I remember him fisting over a point after a save from a Finnegan goal chance. I stand corrected.

How did Conor Smith play for Killeshandra play this year?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on October 28, 2013, 09:47:55 PM
He started every game bar the first game against Antrim due to Injury asaik..

Cian McEnroe should have a place on the u21 team either midfield or half forward. He was excellent in the few games I saw him involved in this year,
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on October 28, 2013, 10:28:52 PM
Conor Smith is an excellent player, if he commits to it 100% as every player must do then he will make the team.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: packiedevlin on October 29, 2013, 12:29:10 PM
Conor Smith has been quite consistent this year but Id also wonder on his commitment. He got a bit of a roasting against young Clerkin in the first half of the intermediate final but was better in the second half when moved off him.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on October 29, 2013, 01:57:38 PM
Is Billy O Mara playing any ball anywhere at the moment?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on October 29, 2013, 02:03:21 PM
James Farrelly will be more then likely be the No 1 Goalie. Been on the panel for the past 2 years, and starts with DCU.

Fergal Reilly - Castlerahan will be close to that team, very tight marker.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on October 29, 2013, 07:24:22 PM
Tom Hayes scored 3 Goals in an Ulster Colleges game today I see.

I assume the Black Card will be in force for the U21 Championship? If so our apparent strength in depth and the big panel we keep could be a real advantage.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Blue in hope on October 30, 2013, 11:56:21 AM
Ciaran Brady from Gowna is to be the new Cavan Gaels Manager
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on October 30, 2013, 12:00:49 PM
Managed Arva this year, bit of a surprise choice.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on October 30, 2013, 01:57:15 PM
Johnston not recalled, Packie Leddy called up for the first time, Philip Tinnelly of Kingsourt , very good player, surprised he has never featured under age. Mickey Lyng back too http://www.hoganstand.com/Cavan/ArticleForm.aspx?ID=203715
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on October 30, 2013, 06:13:39 PM
Was the full squad named in the Celt? Shocked to see only 3 new additions, in a good way. Packie definitely has something to offer the Senior team. Bit odd to see Lyng back in especially given that Terry was reluctant to use the more experienced members of the panel last year. Hopefully he'll have something to offer the team. It'd be fantastic if he could even come close to reviving his career to the extent that Mackey and Clarke.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on October 30, 2013, 06:24:58 PM
Good call by Terry on Johnstone. There is just no way back for him in Cavan. Surprised with inclusion of Lyng, has he been that impressive this year - I'm not sure.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on October 30, 2013, 07:29:36 PM
Quote from: Itchy on October 30, 2013, 06:24:58 PM
Good call by Terry on Johnstone. There is just no way back for him in Cavan. Surprised with inclusion of Lyng, has he been that impressive this year - I'm not sure.

No harm in taking a look at Lyng and giving him the chop if not up to it but that should be the same for everyone else.


Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on October 30, 2013, 08:17:27 PM
Says in that article Lyng played under Val Andrews in 2012, which is wrong, as he was one of the 6 dropped by Andrews in 2011 along with Johnston and co. Lyng wasn't able to give the commitment this year due to working in Mayo, but he played well this year with the Gaels and would be a great addition if he stays fit. Great centre forward when on song.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on October 30, 2013, 09:49:02 PM
He is still in Mayo I think so what is different now? It will be hard for him to give the commitment from over there.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on October 30, 2013, 09:59:06 PM
Shouldn't be that hard if was able to give the commitment to playing for the Gaels for the past 2 years, not as big but still lots of time into club football training. He did some travelling as well for a while too.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on October 30, 2013, 10:07:10 PM
If you're bringing in unfulfilled potential I would have thought Ray Cullivan worth a go.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on October 30, 2013, 10:12:15 PM
Cullivan is a very talented player and would be worth another look, but he is very greedy which is noticeable too, Lyng always picks the right option and is easily the best centre forward in Cavan when at his best.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: packiedevlin on October 31, 2013, 01:36:42 PM
I think Cullivan has had enough chances. I dont think he would be any addition in the squad and is attitude is certainly in question.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on October 31, 2013, 01:54:34 PM
Cullivan had some good performances this year with Lavey, tried to do it all at by himself, at the same time. Still 25, very talented under age, was a key player with DCU for a few years. But never really did it at Co Level and left the panel twice in past. Lyng did too, but Lyng has proved himself at County level before.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on October 31, 2013, 01:58:31 PM
Quote from: packiedevlin on October 31, 2013, 01:36:42 PM
I think Cullivan has had enough chances. I dont think he would be any addition in the squad and is attitude is certainly in question.

Agreed. Looked a great prospect early on but his attitude and indeed some stupid acts on the field mean he wouldn't be making my panel.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on October 31, 2013, 02:05:17 PM
There was calls on here a while back for Gaynor to be recalled to the Cavan panel, he is 4 years older then Culivan and has done numerous stupid things
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: packiedevlin on October 31, 2013, 02:58:27 PM
Whatever about Cullivan, Gaynor is a clown that shouldn't even get a game with Ballinagh never mind the county!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on October 31, 2013, 07:56:04 PM
Did Lyng really prove himself at County level?

Don't think it's entirely fair to slate Cullivan. Left the panel after failing to be selected by Tommy Carr and stupidly got himself sent off v Donegal but has he done anything else wrong? Talk to anyone from other counties about Cavan underage talent prior to 2010 and the names you'll consistently hear Lyng, Mackey and Cullivan.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on October 31, 2013, 08:49:27 PM
Agree re, Cullivan. He is still 25, and so wouldn't be writing him off as a County player. He hardy got a luck in last year and left the panel before the Kildare game. Probaly should have featured more.

Lyng proved himself when he broke onto the panel but kept getingt constant injuries and loss of form. I think the break away from County panel for the past 2 years will do him good and have him fresh next year. He didn't seem to have the hunger as such before, after all the injuries.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on October 31, 2013, 09:00:07 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on October 31, 2013, 08:49:27 PM
Agree re, Cullivan. He is still 25, and so wouldn't be writing him off as a County player. He hardy got a luck in last year and left the panel before the Kildare game. Probaly should have featured more.


Didn't think he was on the panel last year but if he was that's twice he has walked from county panels so i think that would say enough about him.

Once is to much to do something like that.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on October 31, 2013, 09:09:49 PM
He on the panel last year for def. Left the week of the Kildare game. Agree about commitment but, if he settled down a bit and was playing good football he would be worth a recall again. Still relatively young, so he might cop on if he was given the chance again.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on November 01, 2013, 10:01:28 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on October 31, 2013, 09:09:49 PM
He on the panel last year for def. Left the week of the Kildare game. Agree about commitment but, if he settled down a bit and was playing good football he would be worth a recall again. Still relatively young, so he might cop on if he was given the chance again.

He's walked of the panel twice at this stage and if I remember once was the week before the 1st rd of Ulster championship because he wasnt starting. Doesnt sound like a team player to me. I would leave him and others like him where they are.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on November 01, 2013, 10:26:46 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on November 01, 2013, 10:01:28 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on October 31, 2013, 09:09:49 PM
He on the panel last year for def. Left the week of the Kildare game. Agree about commitment but, if he settled down a bit and was playing good football he would be worth a recall again. Still relatively young, so he might cop on if he was given the chance again.

He's walked of the panel twice at this stage and if I remember once was the week before the 1st rd of Ulster championship because he wasnt starting. Doesnt sound like a team player to me. I would leave him and others like him where they are.

Lyng left twice before too...
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on November 01, 2013, 11:17:35 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on November 01, 2013, 10:26:46 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on November 01, 2013, 10:01:28 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on October 31, 2013, 09:09:49 PM
He on the panel last year for def. Left the week of the Kildare game. Agree about commitment but, if he settled down a bit and was playing good football he would be worth a recall again. Still relatively young, so he might cop on if he was given the chance again.

He's walked of the panel twice at this stage and if I remember once was the week before the 1st rd of Ulster championship because he wasnt starting. Doesnt sound like a team player to me. I would leave him and others like him where they are.

Lyng left twice before too.


Indeed, so if two of you were picked up from the Oxigen gig on the way to a qualifier against Wicklow or if you were part of a group that got "lost" on the way to a pitch opening in West Cavan during the late Eamon Coleman era or you left an Under 21 panel because you reckoned you knew better than Terry who should be getting game time should you be left where you are also. All this is of course hearsay and happened quite some time ago as is the case with anything Cullivan or Lyng are alleged to have done. I'm happy to leave it to Terry to make the calls, it's his job and he's not bad at it. 
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on November 02, 2013, 12:51:27 PM
Quote from: anglocelt39 on November 01, 2013, 11:17:35 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on November 01, 2013, 10:26:46 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on November 01, 2013, 10:01:28 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on October 31, 2013, 09:09:49 PM
He on the panel last year for def. Left the week of the Kildare game. Agree about commitment but, if he settled down a bit and was playing good football he would be worth a recall again. Still relatively young, so he might cop on if he was given the chance again.

He's walked of the panel twice at this stage and if I remember once was the week before the 1st rd of Ulster championship because he wasnt starting. Doesnt sound like a team player to me. I would leave him and others like him where they are.

Lyng left twice before too.


Indeed, so if two of you were picked up from the Oxigen gig on the way to a qualifier against Wicklow or if you were part of a group that got "lost" on the way to a pitch opening in West Cavan during the late Eamon Coleman era or you left an Under 21 panel because you reckoned you knew better than Terry who should be getting game time should you be left where you are also. All this is of course hearsay and happened quite some time ago as is the case with anything Cullivan or Lyng are alleged to have done. I'm happy to leave it to Terry to make the calls, it's his job and he's not bad at it.

I read the first very long sentence of that post AC and I'm sorry but I don't follow what you are saying. What I can say is that I do agree with Hyland leaving Cullivan and Johnston off the panel, I think he has made the right call. I also think Lyng is a fine player and I could be wrong but i think his absence from previous panels were down to both injuries and him moving away from home. I never heard anyone say that Lyng wasnt a committed trainer or squad member or that he walked of the panel because he wasnt getting a game. We will see how they all get on in the mckenna cup and then there will be the cull and we'll see who is left.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on November 02, 2013, 01:14:22 PM
What Anglo Celt is saying, is some players didn't have great discipline in the past, ie. Keating going to Oxegen the day before a qualifier game in Aughrim. Others players ending up in a pub when they were suppose to be playing Dublin in a challenge game on another occasion
Lyng left the panel under Keoghan during National League when he was a regular in the team, wasn't down to injuries that time, he left again under Tommy Carr to do charity work in Africa for the summer.
Cullivan made some rash decisions in the past but someday he might be worth a run, as was said, heis still young and might mature, maybe not next year but the year after... Its the managements call at the end of the day
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on November 02, 2013, 01:26:33 PM
Sorry for the long sentences Miley, I'll try harder.

What I'm saying is that there are any number of players involved that you could make an excuse to get rid of based on something that is supposed to have happened in the past.

Luckily none of us on here select the panel.

Terry Hyland is probably closer to players and the grass roots than any County senior team manager since god knows when. I am happy with any decision he might take regarding Ray Cullivan, Sean Johnston, Lyng etc. etc. etc.

Clever decision on his part to involved Lyng in the panel, whether intended to be clever or not. Avoids any accusations that anybody who was not involved in Terrys Under 21 teams is not going to get a fair crack. There are several lads 25-30 that should be trying to remain involved or get involved again,.Dermot Sheridan one other that springs to mind. We will need them all because two years from now some of the young lads that were involved this year will have gone the same way as Mulvey to find work. Sad but probably true.

Confident Terry will get as much as there is to be got from the panel if he doesn't have to deal with too much interference.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on November 03, 2013, 10:17:56 AM
That's alright Anglo - I'm just glad you are not ignoring me anymore, it was having a huge negative effect on my self esteem.

I agree with you on Hyland. My point was that the Hyland knows well what the two boys I mentioned are like and we can only presume he has made the call that they are not worth the hassle (or are just not reformed) while Lyng etc is. At the end of the day we have the guts of a good hard working panel of lads for the first time in ages. Some people will forget how bad things were. Rodney spoke about 2009 in an earlier post, go back through these pages and see what the feelings were like amongst us all when we were bet by Antrim and then hammered by Wicklow under Tommy Carr. At least we know now that our lads will give 100% on the field and back in 2009 that is what we all wanted.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on November 03, 2013, 12:02:37 PM
That's fair enough Myles,.. wasn't on here in 09. Cullivan never had any problems with work rate and was a very good trainer, just annoyed that he wasn't getting game time. As was said, he is still young and maybe someday, 2015,  if he continues decent club form he would be worth a recall.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on November 03, 2013, 03:31:01 PM
Sure why would anyone want to ignore you Myles. Rumor has it you were mentioned on the missing posters list a few months back whatever shock therapy you took during that time has done the trick and your posts are a pure pleasure to read since you came out of retirement.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Blue in hope on November 04, 2013, 10:10:25 AM
Cavan Gaels  had only 12 players turn up for the match against Lacken on Saturday. Lacken needed to win match to stay up and send Cuchullians down. The ref then deemed the field unplayable. This is the second year in a row there has been strange carry ons with this fixture. What is going on within the Gaels that a club that size with two teams (Div 1 & 2) can only get 12 players to turn up? There seems to be major problems there.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on November 04, 2013, 11:04:28 AM
That's wrong info, Blue in hope, Lacken were already in a Relegation play off with Cuchullians  which is due to be played next weekend. That was just a meaningless fixture which meant nothing for either Lacken or Cavan Gaels, as they are in the League Semis and Lacken were already in a Relegation play off. Lacken were prepared to play the game and were togged out, they hadn't the numbers. Obviously more concerned about a League Semi then a match that meant nothing.

Two go down in each division, Denn already down, Lacken & Cuchullians to play off. Same way as Crosserlough had a play off a few weeks ago against Belturbet.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Blue in hope on November 04, 2013, 11:14:39 AM
Rodney you are wrong according to the league table on the Cavan GAA web site.
Cuchullians have played 18 games and have 12 pts. Lacken have played 17 games and have 11pts. With two points for a win Lacken beating the Gaels would put Lacken on 13pts . This would send Cuchullians down with Denn. Only a draw would put it to a play off.
That is twice in a couple of weeks that the Gaels have not fulfilled a fixture.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on November 04, 2013, 11:17:54 AM
It was known for a few weeks that Lacken would be playing Cuchullians in a League play off. Whatever the table says doesn't mean anything. Botton team goes down and second and third bottom team go into a Relegation play off the same way as Crosserlough did against Belturbet. Crosserlough were ahead of Belturbet in the League
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on November 04, 2013, 11:45:45 AM
Well done Kilishandra.


Ulster club IFC: Killeshandra into last four
http://www.hoganstand.com/Cavan/ArticleForm.aspx?ID=203854
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: packiedevlin on November 04, 2013, 12:29:08 PM
Good performance by Killeshandra yesterday, its probably as good a performance they've had this year. McKiernan again very good, his frees were excellent including another from the sideline similar to the intermediate final. There will be much tougher tests ahead though. I think its crazy that teams have to play semi finals and finals in the league, the top 2 are promoted, that should be it. These games are a waste especially for teams 3rd and 4th who cant get promoted anyway!
If Killeshandra were to make it to an Ulster final and a league final that's 5 games still left to play this side of Christmas!!

Hard luck to Kill, they weren't just good enough yesterday.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on November 04, 2013, 01:05:46 PM
Probaly the reason for Semi finals in the League is to give teams something to play for and keep it competitive.

Interesting that both Ballyhaise and Redhills both won in the Division 1b Semi's on Saturday, neither team was promoted. The two promoted teams Gowna and Drumgoon beaten.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on November 06, 2013, 07:02:17 PM
St. Pats Cavan beat Armagh in the MacRory Cup today. Ryan Connolly scored 1-11 out of 2-13 for Cavan. Anyone know where I could see a team lineout for the Cavan team? Be very interested to see what sort of team they have as I hear there was a lot being invested in that grade this year in St. Pats.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on November 06, 2013, 07:11:05 PM
Quote from: Westside on November 06, 2013, 07:02:17 PM
St. Pats Cavan beat Armagh in the MacRory Cup today. Ryan Connolly scored 1-11 out of 2-13 for Cavan. Anyone know where I could see a team lineout for the Cavan team? Be very interested to see what sort of team they have as I hear there was a lot being invested in that grade this year in St. Pats.

Terry should be getting him in on the county panel for a look.


Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on November 06, 2013, 07:33:31 PM
He has another year Minor.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on November 06, 2013, 09:04:09 PM
He looks very athletic. Great burst of pace and a fantastic left foot. Another year left at Minor. 1-11 is a fantastic tally. Is this Pat's first year in the MacRory Cup?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on November 06, 2013, 09:10:48 PM
They have have been playing in the B competition for the past few years, McLarnon Cup, weren't strong enough for McCrory until this year, Took some bad beatings in the past due to the age difference  the Northern sides have  .
Played in Leinster Colleges A for 2 years as they were able to compete at that Level in 04/06.

Strong side this year, I think a few lads did transition year so  that they would be eligible. Is Greg McGovern from Swad in too?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on November 06, 2013, 09:23:10 PM
Think so yes. And Niall Farrell from Templeport. Those are the only two I know that are now with St. Pats. Two very physical lads, they are obviously attempting to bridge the gap with regards to the development advantage of the older lads in Northern Colleges.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on November 06, 2013, 09:27:51 PM
Yeah, its the only way they would be able to compete . Be great for Cavan football to see them do well

The Rannafast team are playing Colemans newry nest week in the Semi Final. Be great if they could get retain that Cup.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on November 06, 2013, 09:28:59 PM
Quote from: Westside on November 06, 2013, 09:23:10 PM
Think so yes. And Niall Farrell from Templeport. Those are the only two I know that are now with St. Pats. Two very physical lads, they are obviously attempting to bridge the gap with regards to the development advantage of the older lads in Northern Colleges.

Have lads gone to St Pat's this year to play football?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on November 06, 2013, 09:32:48 PM
More or less. No harm it in. They will obviously be students too. McCrory is highest standard of schools football
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on November 06, 2013, 09:42:01 PM
QuoteTwo tight games in MacRory today
November 6, 2013

Danske Bank MacRory Cup

St Patrick's Cavan 2-13 St Patrick's Armagh 2-5

St Ciaran's Ballygawley 1-9   St Mary's Magherafelt 1-9

One of yesterday afternoon's Danske Bank MacRory Cup games finished in a draw, the other could easily have gone the same way.

However St Patrick's Cavan pulled away with 1-4 in the last 7 minutes at Scotstown to record their first victory.

They started the better as well and Drumlane's Ryan Connolly netted after 8 minutes.  Cavan played some good football during that opening half but were caught with 2 goals in quick succession from Eddie Mallon just before the break and Armagh led by 2-3 to 1-5 at half-time.

The teams went score for score for a 2-5 to 1-8 score-line in the 53rd minute and looked to be on their way to a share of the spoils.

Suddenly Cavan took off with points from Brian Sheanan, Ronan O'Reilly and Darragh Gannon, and then opened Armagh up for O'Reilly to clinch the points with a goal.

Ryan Connolly capped an excellent individual performance with his 8th point at the death.

The other game, in MUSA, was decided in the 4th minute of injury time with Michael McVey slotting over a 35 metre free to tie the teams at 1-9 each.

The breeze was a factor in this game and Ballygawley led by 1-5 to 0-3 at the turnover, the goal coming from Mark McConnell.  But they, like Magherafelt in the second half, were guilty of some wayward shooting as well.

Magherafelt edged their way back into contention after the break, and then a high ball from Terence O'Brien was gathered by Dessie McColgan and fired to the net in the 42nd minute.

From then until the end, the game could have gone either way and a draw was at this point the fairest result.

St Ciaran's : Mark McConnell 1-0, Mark Kavannagh 0-5, Jody McGlone 0-2, Ruairi O'Neill 0-1, Enda McGarrity 0-1.

St Mary's Magherafelt : Dessie McColgan 1-0, Terence O'Brien 0-2, Tiarnan Burke 0-2, Michael McVey 0-2, Johnny Connolly 0-2, Ryan o'Neill 0-1.

St Patrick's Cavan : Ryan Connolly 1-8, Ronan O'Reilly 1-1, Ben Conaty 0-2, Brian Sheanan 0-1, Darragh Gannon 0-1.

St Patrick's Armagh : Eddie Mallon 2-0, Conor McKenna 0-2, Conor Murphy 0-1, James McKeown 0-1, Rory McGrath 0-1.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on November 06, 2013, 09:47:00 PM
That was Pats first game in the McRory today, game against Enniskillen was postponed mid way through. Good start anyway.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mrdeeds on November 06, 2013, 11:34:23 PM
Yeah lads are going to St Pats to play football. Shane McManus, Harry O Neill, Christopher Dunne, Brendan Argue and Greg McGovern all new additions from other schools. Think there is a few more. Throwback to the old days.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on November 07, 2013, 08:07:03 AM
Quote from: mrdeeds on November 06, 2013, 11:34:23 PM
Yeah lads are going to St Pats to play football. Shane McManus, Harry O Neill, Christopher Dunne, Brendan Argue and Greg McGovern all new additions from other schools. Think there is a few more. Throwback to the old days.

What clubs are they all from>
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mrdeeds on November 07, 2013, 10:19:49 AM
McManus from Crosserlough came from St. Clares BJD, Harry O Neill is from Baileborough but was in school in Dublin I think, Christopher Dunne and Argue (Michael's brother) came from Baileborough and Greg McGovern from Swad was in Bawnboy school. Great start from them with a huge amount of work and coaching put in from Finbar Reilly. A lot of lads repeating Fifth Year to play again next year.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on November 07, 2013, 10:27:33 AM
Yeah next years team will be the side that won the Rannafast in 2012, most of those lads will be repeating so Ryan Connolly, Pearse Smith will be around
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on November 07, 2013, 11:15:17 AM
Quote from: rodney trotter on November 07, 2013, 10:27:33 AM
Yeah next years team will be the side that won the Rannafast in 2012, most of those lads will be repeating so Ryan Connolly, Pearse Smith will be around

Sounds like 1972 all over again.


Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Babe Ruth 47 on November 07, 2013, 01:47:39 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on November 06, 2013, 09:27:51 PM
Yeah, its the only way they would be able to compete . Be great for Cavan football to see them do well

The Rannafast team are playing Colemans newry nest week in the Semi Final. Be great if they could get retain that Cup.

That Ranafast semi final is on this Friday at 2 in Middleton. Very good team also.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on November 07, 2013, 03:08:34 PM
Quote from: Babe Ruth 47 on November 07, 2013, 01:47:39 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on November 06, 2013, 09:27:51 PM
Yeah, its the only way they would be able to compete . Be great for Cavan football to see them do well

The Rannafast team are playing Colemans newry nest week in the Semi Final. Be great if they could get retain that Cup.

That Ranafast semi final is on this Friday at 2 in Middleton. Very good team also.

Yeah very strong team again this year. Paul Leddy has been in good form again this year for them like last year. Missed the final last year through injury

report from the Quarter final last week


October 28, 2013

Danske Bank Edmund Rice Rannafast Cup quarter-finals:

Omagh CBS 1-18 St Mary's Magherafelt 1-7

St Patrick's Cavan (holders) 4-12 Patrician Carrickmacross 1-9

There were no surprises in the two Danske Bank Edmund Rice Rannafast Cup quarter-finals played yesterday with Omagh CBS and holders St Patrick's Cavan easing past St Mary's Magherafelt and Patrician Carrickmacross respectively to reach separate semi-finals.

Omagh had to contend with a very strong breeze in their game and St Mary's Magherafelt led by 1-7 to 0-6 at the break with a good goal from Ronan Ó'Kane.

However the Convent was held scoreless during the second half despite the best efforts of Kyle Johnstone and Declan Cassidy.

Omagh drew level with 3 frees from Andrew McGrath and a Niall Murray point, but once Johnny Harkin found the net in the 41st minute, there was only going to be one winner.

St Mary's had scoring chances however before a flurry of scores near the end stretched Omagh's lead well beyond them.

Cavan, the holders, took less time to establish control in their quarter-final with newly promoted Patrician High Carrickmacross, running up an interval lead of 2-11 to 0-6.

Those first half goals came from Conor Smith and Thomas Edward Donohue.  The latter added 3 points as did Paul Leddy.

In the second half, Cavan remained in control, but took the opportunity to use some of their subs.  Donohue found the net again, as did Leddy who added their only point of the second half, with David Garland bringing his account to 1-5 with a Carrick goal.

Omagh now play the winner from the St Patrick's Maghera v Abbey CBS tie that won't happen until next Wednesday, while Cavan will face either St Patrick's Armagh or St Colman's, who play in St Paul's Lurgan on Thursday 11.30am.

Meantime in the Danske Bank Herald Cup, there will be an all-Armagh semi-final with St Michael's Lurgan taking on St Jospeh's Crossmaglen next Wednesday.

Cross upset the form-book by taking out a fancied St Patrick's Downpatrick after extra-time, 2-16 to 3-11, while St Michael's came home on a 4-9 to 2-10 score against Our Lady's castleblaney with goals from Barry mcCambridge (2), Odhran Magee and Keelan Lavery.

St Ciaran's Ballygawley play St Eunan's Letterkenny tomorrow (Wednesday) while the last quarter-final (St Louis Ballymena v St Mary's CBGS) is scheduled for Tuesday 5th November.

Omagh CBS : Johnny Harkin 1-0, Andrew McGrath 0-8, 0-6 frees, Aidan Fullerton 0-3, Conor Loughran 0-2, Niall Murray 0-1, Eamon Rea 0-1, Cahir Moss 0-1, Caolan Moss 0-1, Odhrán Sludden 0-1.

St Mary's : Ronan O'Kane 1-1, Ronan Donnelly 0-2, Manus McAllister 0-1, Declan Cassidy 0-1, David McErlean 0-1.

Cavan : Thomas Edward Donohue 2-3, Paul Leddy 1-4, Conor Smith 1-1, Ryan O'Neill 0-1, Shane Fortune 0-1, Stephen Smith 0-1, David Wilson 0-1.

Patrician : David Garland 1-5, Stephen Finnegan 0-2, Alan Kiernan 0-1, Ronan McDonnell 0-1.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on November 07, 2013, 08:34:23 PM
Quote from: mrdeeds on November 07, 2013, 10:19:49 AM
McManus from Crosserlough came from St. Clares BJD, Harry O Neill is from Baileborough but was in school in Dublin I think, Christopher Dunne and Argue (Michael's brother) came from Baileborough and Greg McGovern from Swad was in Bawnboy school. Great start from them with a huge amount of work and coaching put in from Finbar Reilly. A lot of lads repeating Fifth Year to play again next year.

Can someone explain this to me. Are we saying that these guys are from different schools but have effectively transferred to St Pats school so that they can play McRory cup football? Seems like that is against the ethos of the GAA in many ways if that is the case although I take the point that it has not been a level playing field in the past due to the northern teams having older players.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on November 07, 2013, 08:45:33 PM
They were asked would they liked to switch as Pats were going to compete in McRory this year. .Otherwise get another few hammering in McRory with a young team. Northern teams are an extra year in school. Nothing wrong with it, its only for the benefit of Cavan football that Pats can start to compete in McRory again.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on November 07, 2013, 09:16:20 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on November 07, 2013, 08:45:33 PM
They were asked would they liked to switch as Pats were going to compete in McRory this year. .Otherwise get another few hammering in McRory with a young team. Northern teams are an extra year in school. Nothing wrong with it, its only for the benefit of Cavan football that Pats can start to compete in McRory again.

Well I am a little uncomfortable with this, what about the schools they have left behind - what about the standard of football there?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on November 07, 2013, 09:26:07 PM
I presume they have notions of winning it otherwise lads wouldn't go out of their way to go there.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on November 07, 2013, 09:29:47 PM
Plenty of players switch schools in the past and I'm sure they will again in the future.
Mark McKeever was in Carrigallen Voc for 3 years and left to play with for Moyne in Leinster Colleges.
Those players are obviously losses for those schools but that's the way it is. Higher standard at College level. Virginia dominate practically every year anyway at Voc level.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on November 07, 2013, 09:43:01 PM
Is that why McKeever moved schools Rodney, I don't think it was that alone. Gowna is much closer to Moyne than any other school you know.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on November 07, 2013, 09:46:49 PM
Quote from: Itchy on November 07, 2013, 09:43:01 PM
Is that why McKeever moved schools Rodney, I don't think it was that alone. Gowna is much closer to Moyne than any other school you know.

Its the main reason. They had a very strong team when he joined with 5/6 Longford minors. Paddy Brady etc. I'm sure after 3 years he didn't just realize it was closer then Carrigallen :) There is only a few mile difference anyway
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on November 07, 2013, 10:01:17 PM
Well these lads are going well out of the way to play for St Pats, are they repeating the leaving?

Do they be about the place a tall other than for football?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on November 07, 2013, 10:03:18 PM
All seems a bit elitist to me anyway.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on November 07, 2013, 10:05:45 PM
Of course, they are students like the rest in Pats and will be doing the Leaving June. Not all had it complete before they came, some repeating.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on November 07, 2013, 10:07:28 PM
How do you know so much about them, are you a student in St pats ?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on November 07, 2013, 10:10:53 PM
No, I know a few of the Pats staff who are over the Sports area. Also have a cousin there. Drive by tomorrow Tommy and see if you can spot them...
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on November 07, 2013, 10:12:36 PM
I wouldn't know any cousin of yours rodney.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on November 07, 2013, 10:14:05 PM
Nah probably not, but the players you are intrigued with might be floating about.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on November 07, 2013, 10:15:23 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on November 07, 2013, 10:14:05 PM
Nah probably not, but the players you are intrigued with might be floating about.

Id say that's the height of what there doing other than playing football  ;D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on November 07, 2013, 10:18:18 PM
It's not DCU, Tommy.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on November 07, 2013, 10:20:32 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on November 07, 2013, 10:18:18 PM
It's not DCU, Tommy.

Yeah there would be a bit of flange around DCU.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on November 07, 2013, 10:23:30 PM
Quote from: tommysmith on November 07, 2013, 10:20:32 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on November 07, 2013, 10:18:18 PM
It's not DCU, Tommy.

Yeah there would be a bit of flange around DCU.

Along with a scholarship,5k, apartment sorted,
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on November 07, 2013, 10:30:45 PM
And coppers
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on November 08, 2013, 02:37:30 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on November 07, 2013, 09:16:20 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on November 07, 2013, 08:45:33 PM
They were asked would they liked to switch as Pats were going to compete in McRory this year. .Otherwise get another few hammering in McRory with a young team. Northern teams are an extra year in school. Nothing wrong with it, its only for the benefit of Cavan football that Pats can start to compete in McRory again.

Well I am a little uncomfortable with this, what about the schools they have left behind - what about the standard of football there?

I blame the parents.

Winning though'
http://www.hoganstand.com/Cavan/ArticleForm.aspx?ID=204213
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on November 09, 2013, 05:25:41 PM
Pats drew with Colemans Newry today in McRory, up 7-2 at ht, 11pts to 2-5.



St Colman's Newry 2-5 St Patrick's Cavan 0-11

Two second half goals rescued a league point for St Colman's Newry in this Danske Bank MacRory Cup tie at Inniskeen on Saturday.

The Newry side looked lethargic during the opening half and seemed to be on their way to a third successive defeat in the competition, when they trailed 0-7 to 0-2 at the break.

Cavan looked sharp in that opening half and deserved their lead with points from 6 different players contributing to their total.

St Colman's though were a changed team after the break and pushed forward a lot more.  A high ball into the area in front of the goals in the 39th minute was well fielded by Conor Magee and planted in the net.

That brought them back to 0-7 to 1-2, and although Conor Gilmore added a point, scores from Ronan O'Reilly and Ben Conaty left them 3 points in arrears entering the last 10 minutes.

James French tied the teams with a 51st minute goal and Ryan Connolly and Patrick O'Hagan exchanged points on two occasions over the last 10 minutes to complete the scoring.

Either management could have pointed to goal opportunities that weren't taken during the second half, but both will be happy enough that they avoided defeat.

St Colman's : Conor Magee 1-0, James French 1-0, Patrick O'Hagan 0-2, Oisin O'Neill 0-1, Conor Gilmore 0-1, Conal Brown 0-1.

St Patrick's : Ryan Connolly 0-4, David Brady 0-1, Daragh Gannon 0-1, Stephen O'Reilly 0-1, Matthew McKenna 0-1, Brian Sheanan 0-1, Ronan O'Reill 0-1, Ben Conaty 0-1.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on November 19, 2013, 06:29:47 PM
St Pats hammered St Pat's Maghera in the MacRory Cup today. Great win. Not sure where that leaves them now.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on November 19, 2013, 07:38:39 PM
Yeah a very good win. Play Abbey CBS next Tuesday. There is two groups of twelve, 8 go into the quarter finals, 2 go through automatically and the rest play off. Enniskillen is the remaining game after they play Abbey.
Quarter finals and play offs are played in Feburary.

Omagh, St Pauls Bessbrok Armagh, St MaCartens Monaghan, St Pats Dungannon and Magherafelt Derry , Ballygawley are the teams in the other side.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on November 20, 2013, 06:08:44 PM
So the Hastings Cup has been extended to 12 teams. We have Longford Mayo and Offaly.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on November 21, 2013, 11:14:17 AM

Danske Bank MacRory Cup

The results of the two Danske Bank MacRory Cup games yesterday mean that the only route to this year's quarter-finals open for both last season's finalists, St Patrick's Maghera and St Paul's Bessbrook, is through the qualifiers.

St Patrick's Cavan 3-12 St Patrick's Maghera 1-10

Holders St Patrick's Maghera will have go through a qualifier before they reach the quarter-finals of this season's Danske Bank MacRory Cup.  That was the fall-out from yesterday's handy league victory for St Patrick's Cavan in Clogher.

In many ways Maghera were the architects of their own down-fall with possession for all three goals coughed up rather easily.

However that really does not do justice to Cavan who were well set-up, defensively and offensively, a team that took the game to Maghera from the start.

Conor Convery opened with a point for Maghera, but the dangerous Ryan Connolly bagged a 4th minute goal for Cavan and they took command of the game, going into a 1-3 to 0-4 lead at the end of the first quarter.

That extended to a 1-7 to 0-5 interval lead with 2 points from Caoimhin O'Reilly and one each from Daragh Gannon and Ronan O'Reilly.

Two more points from Caoimhin O'Reilly and one from Brendan Argue made it 1-10 to 0-5 as Cavan stretched the Maghera defence.

However their momentum was halted for a while after Eamon McGill finished off a neat Maghera move by palming to the net in the 42nd minute.

But any chance of a Maghera resurrection was shut out within 60 seconds around the 47th minute with first Daragh Gannon and then, from the kick-out, Brendan Argue finishing to the Maghera net.

Ben Conaty made it an impressive 3-11 to 1-5, before Maghera hit their best patch in the game with 5 of the last 6 points, 3 coming from the boot of Conor Convery.

Both teams are back in action by the weekend.  Cavan play Group leaders St Michael's Enniskillen on Friday (Drumlane, 2pm) while Maghera are up against St Colman's Newry on Saturday morning.

St Patrick's Cavan : Daragh Gannon 1-3, Ryan Connolly 1-2, Brendan Argue 1-1, Caoimhin O'Reilly 0-4, Ronan O'Reilly 0-1, Ben Conaty 0-1.

St Patrick's Maghera : Eamon McGill 1-0, Conor Convery 0-6, 0-4 frees, Caolan Feeny 0-1, Conor Cassidy 0-1, Liam O'Hara 0-1, Danny Tallon 0-1.



St Macartan's Monaghan 3-11 St Paul's Bessbrook 2-7

This was a pretty competitive fixture between last year's beaten finalists and a St Macartan's side buoyed up by the county's provincial minor success during the summer.

After 22 minutes three points from Jody McGovern had St Paul's in a 0-4 to 0-2 lead.  Two minutes later the complexion of the game changed with Michael O'Dowd firing home the opening goal and the Sem pushed on to lead 1-5 to 0-4 at the break.

Bessbrook came out fired up for the second half and Mícheál McNamee brought them right back into the game with a goal in the 32nd minute.

Aodh Curran responded with a point for Monaghan and in the 37th minute came the crucial score – a goal from Chris McAnenly that seemed to boost the Sem. They added their third goal in the 44th minute when Conor McCarthy was put through on goal.

Although Bessbrook responded within a minute with a Paul Quinn goal, the gap had been opened and points from McCarthy, Aodh Curran and Michael O'Dowd in the final quarter eased the Sem to the top of the qualifying group, level on points with Omagh, whom they play this weekend in their final group game.

St Macartan's need a draw or better to claim an automatic quarter-final spot and a place in the MacCormack Cup final.

St Macartan's Monaghan : Conor McCarthy 1-4, Michael O'Dowd 1-1, Chris McAnenly 1-0, Aodh Curran 0-4, Tom Hayes 0-2.

St Paul's Bessbrook : Mícheál McNamee 1-1, Paul Quinn 1-0, Jody McGovern 0-4, Jarlath óg Burns 0-2.

diff
St   Michael's Enniskillen 4 4 0 0 8 14
St   Patrick's Cavan 3 2 1 0 5 16
Abbey   CBS 3 2 0 1 4 2
St   Patrick's Maghera 4 1 0 3 2 -13
St   Colman's Newry 3 0 1 2 1 -9
St   Patrick's Armagh 3 0 0 3 0 -10

Section B

  Pl W D L Pts Score   diff
St   Macartan's Monaghan 5 4 0 1 8 22
Omagh   CBS 5 4 0 1 8 15
St   Paul's Bessbrook 5 2 1 2 5 -1
St   Patrick's Dungannon 4 2 0 2 4 7
St   Mary's Magherafelt 5 1 2 2 4 -14
St   Ciaran's Ballygawley 4 1 1 2 3 -8
St   Michael's Lurgan 6 1 0 5 2 -21


Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on November 22, 2013, 02:10:54 PM
Has Ryan Connolly one or two more years as a minor. He has some potential that fella. I hope someone in Pats is keeping his feet on the ground though because with great skills you need a great attitude too.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on November 22, 2013, 03:37:00 PM
He has another year Minor, very talented player.

Pats had another good win today in McRory, beat St Michaels Enniskillen 1-8 to 1-5, they had been unbeaten up until todays game
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on November 22, 2013, 06:11:38 PM
That would put them straight through to the Quarter Finals wouldn't it? It will be another great boost to our underage if we can compete at the highest level of schools football.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on November 22, 2013, 06:44:07 PM
Must beat Abbey Newry on Tuesday for a place in the Quarter finals, winner takes all, otherwise into play offs.. They would go into a League final too if they beat Abbey aswell as Quarter finals.


MacRory wins for Cavan and Abbey CBS

November 22, 2013

Danske Bank MacRory Cup

St Patrick's Cavan 1-8 St Michael's Enniskillen 1-5

Abbey CBS 1-25 St Patrick's Armagh 0-4

The last 100% record in the Danske Bank MacRory Cup was lost this afternoon with St Patrick's Cavan defeating St Michael's Enniskillen in Drumlane.

At this point Cavan look to have got up the same head of steam that Bessbrook got going last year to take them to the MacCormack Cup league title and within a point or two of the MacRory title in March.

Cavan will go into the MacCormack final if they avoid defeat in their last game, against the Abbey on Tuesday – and will also claim an automatic spot in the MacRory quarter-finals.

And all that after conceding a seventh minute penalty yesterday in Drumlane.  Enniskillen's Eoin McManus converted the spot-kick to open the scoring.

Cavan came back with points from Brendan Argue and Ben Conaty before taking the lead in the 20th minute with a goal from Brian Sheanan.

Ryan Connolly and Daragh Gannon added points for an interval lead of 1-4 to 1-2, that stretched to 1-6 to 1-2, following points from Argue and Caoimhin O'Reilly in the opening minutes of the second half.

Enniskillen however hit back with 3 points in a row (Eoin McManus, Lee Brennan and Shane Rooney) to make it a one-point game.

Cavan though responded with more pressure and points from Gannon and Connolly sealed the issue.

Meanwhile Abbey had it all too easy against a St Patrick's Armagh side that was already resigned to bottom seed in the quarter-final play-offs.

The Newry side led by 1-9 to 0-3 at the break, with the goal coming from Conor Doyle.  Doyle went on to rack-up 1-7, with Ryan Treanor claiming 0-7, in an 8-25 to 0-4 victory that sets up a winner-takes-all clash with Cavan on Tuesday.

St Patrick's Cavan : Brian Sheanan 1-0, Brendan Argue 0-2, Ryan Connolly 0-2, Daragh Gannon 0-2, Caoimhin O'Reilly 0-1, Ben Conaty 0-1.

St Michael's : Eoin McManus 1-2, Lee Brennan 0-1, Gary McKenna 0-1, Shane Rooney 0-1.

Abbey : Conor Doyle 1-7, Ryan Treanor 0-7, Donagh McAleenan 0-2, Jack Collins 0-2, Conor McCoy 0-1, Padraig McGrath 0-1, Eoin McParland 0-1, Sheagh Dobbin 0-1, Daniel Kane 0-1, Cathair McKinney 0-1, Ryan Magee 0-1.

St Patrick's Armagh : Shane McParland 0-3, Gary Mackin 0-1.



Danske Bank MacRory Cup Tables (after games on Friday 21st November)

Section A

  Pl W D L Pts Score   diff
St   Michael's Enniskillen 5 4 0 1 8 11
St   Patrick's Cavan 4 3 1 0 7 19
Abbey   CBS 4 3 0 1 6 24
St   Colman's Newry 4 1 1 2 3 -4
St   Patrick's Maghera 4 1 0 3 2 -13
St   Patrick's Armagh 5 0 0 5 0 -39



Section B

  Pl W D L Pts Score   diff
St   Macartan's Monaghan 5 4 0 1 8 22
Omagh   CBS 5 4 0 1 8 15
St   Patrick's Dungannon 5 3 0 2 6 21
St   Paul's Bessbrook 5 2 1 2 5 -1
St   Mary's Magherafelt 5 1 2 2 4 -14
St   Ciaran's Ballygawley 5 1 1 3 3 -22
St   Michael's Lurgan 6 1 0 5 2 -21


Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on November 23, 2013, 02:50:44 PM
County Vocational Schools team in the Ulster final

ULSTER INTER-COUNTY VOCATIONAL SCHOOLS CHAMPIONSHIP SEMI FINAL.

Cavan 5-12
Monaghan 0-9.

A sharper, more economical and more clinical Cavan deservedly booked their place in the final of the Ulster Inter-County Vocational Schools championship when they proved too adept in most departments for Monaghan in this entertaining if a little one-sided contest that was played in excellent conditions in Clones yesterday. The final score line though, perhaps does not do justice to Monaghan's efforts as they more than broke even in the possession stakes but it was Cavan's more economical use of the ball and their more clinical finishing, particularly for goals in the second-half, that ultimately proved the difference between the sides. Cvan now play Donegal in the final.
Teams and Scorers: Cavan: Keelan O'Connell, Joseph O'Connell, Cormac Daly, Dean McCarthy, Benjamin Kelly, Mark Magee, Eoin Sommerville, Sean McDermott 2-0, Conor Flanagan, Cathal Maguire 1-0, Conor Bradley 0-4 (1f), Sean Reilly, Bryan McGee, Eoin Doughty 2-2 (0-2f), Adam O'Reilly 0-4. Subs: Daire McEnroe 0-1 for S Reilly, Neal McEnroe for C Flanagan, G Tiernan for B Kelly, Ryan Mannion for A O'Reilly, Rhys Clarke 0-1 for C Maguire.

Monaghan: Adam Counihan, Thomas Courtney, Robert Berg, Cian Freeman, James Daly 0-2, Jason Walshe, Aidan Quinn, Niall Keenan, Sean McMahon, Niall Duffy, Dermot Gleeson 0-1 (f), Eugene McGeough 0-2, Cormac Duffy, James Mealiff 0-2, Stephen McCabe 0-2 (1f). Subs: Paul Connolly for T Courtney, Patrick O'Neill for C Duffy. Referee: Dermot Love (Fermanagh).
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on November 26, 2013, 04:00:54 PM
Some comeback from St Pats against Abbey CBS today, down 1-7 to 3 at half time, finished 1-12 to 3-6. Draw was enough for a place in the quarter finals of the MacRory and a place in the McCormick league final. They play McCartans in the League final.



November 26, 2013

Danske Bank MacRory Cup

The three league games played  in the Danske Bank MacRory Cup were not decided until the final few minutes in each, and all three had implications on the next stage of the competition.

The results mean potential bumper crowds at the next games with a first south Ulster derby final in over half a century, a south Derry derby and a Newry head to head as well.

And last year's finalists, St Paul's Bessbrook and St Patrick's Maghera, will not progress to the quarter-finals unless they beat neighbouring schools.

Cavan came back from 8 points down to snatch a draw against the Abbey CBS and, not only claim the last remaining automatic quarter-final spot, but also a place in the Danske Bank MacCormack Cup league final next week.  They also remain the only unbeaten team in the competition with 3 wins and 2 draws from their 5 outings.

If they had lost today, then Abbey would have gone through to the quarters, and Enniskillen ended up in the league decider.

Enniskillen, Omagh and St Macartan's Monaghan were already 3 of the 4 automatic quarter-finalists before yesterday with the Sem contesting the league final.

Abbey's failure to hold on to that 1-12 to 1-4 lead during the last 10 minutes means that they will now face neighbours and last season's finalists St Paul's Bessbrook in the play-offs on the last weekend of January.

St Paul's lost an interval lead by conceding 3-3 in the third quarter as Ballygawley jumped two places up the table to set up a play-off with the other Newry side, St Colman's.

Magherafelt's draw with the Academy means that they will face into a south Derry derby with the holders St Patrick's Maghera, while the Academy will be playing St Patrick's Armagh

Summary :

MacCormack Cup finalists : St Macaratan's v St Patrick's Cavan



Automatic quarter-final spots : St Macaratan's, St Patrick's Cavan, St Michael's Enniskillen, Omagh CBS



Play-offs for quarter-final spots (weekend of 31st January / 1st February) :

Abbey CBS v St Paul's Bessbrook

St Ciaran's Ballygawley v St Colman's Newry

St Mary's Magherafelt v St Patrick's Maghera

St Patrick's Academy v St Patrick's Armagh



Eliminated from the competition : St Michael's Lurgan.

http://www.google.ie/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&frm=1&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&ved=0CCsQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ulstercollegesgaa.org%2F&ei=eQiVUrT4J-mR7AbZpoDwBA&usg=AFQjCNGiJ8McuISlkx2jCGE983SP8mrC8w

November 26, 2013

Abbey CBS 1-13 St Patrick's Cavan 3-7

For most of this tie, Abbey looked to be in control.  Then they dramatically lost control in the final 10 minutes, conceded 2-2 and ended up in the play-offs as Cavan retained the only unbeaten record in the competition.

What drama there was in that final quarter!

Although Ryan Connolly had smashed home a Cavan goal within a minute of the second half throw-in, that score only pulled the difference between the sides back to 1-7 to 1-3.

Abbey hit six of the next eight points – 3 for Ryan Treanor, 2 for Conor Doyle and 1 from Donach McAleenan – to lead 1-13 to 1-5.

Cavan always carried a threat, as demonstrated by Connolly's goal at the start of the half, but Abbey looked home and hosed.

Thomas Galligan lobbed over a Cavan point before excitement started to rise with Daragh Gannon picking up a fumbled ball and bursting through for a goal.

Connolly dropped over a 45 and then with 3 minutes to go Matthew McKenna's goal brought the teams level.  There were a couple of half-chances after that, but no further scores.

That drama at the end was in contrast to Abbey's early dominance.  Daniel Kane, son of All-Ireland winning captain DJ, scored a 13th minute goal and the Newry side were full valued for their 7 points interval lead.

However the Rannafast Cup success last year seems to have given Cavan a lot of spirit and confidence and they delivered in a bewildering final 10 minutes.

St Patrick's Cavan : Ryan Connolly 1-4, Daragh Gannon 1-1, Matthew McKenna 1-0, Brendan Argue 0-1, Thomas Galligan 0-1.

Abbey CBS : Daniel Kane 1-0, Ryan Treanor 0-5, Conor Doyle 0-4, Donach McAleenan 0-2, Sheagh Dobbin 0-1, Eoin McParland 0-1.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on November 29, 2013, 03:21:41 PM
While the talismanic centrefielder will be a huge addition to the side that reached the last eight of this year's All-Ireland, Hyland will be taking no unnecessary risks with him:


It is always good to remind yourself.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on December 01, 2013, 05:36:38 PM
Danske Bank MacCormackCup final
Tuesday 3rd Dec, 7.30pm Emyvale
St Patrick's Cavan v StMacartans Monaghan

Preview of the gameDanske Bank MacCormack Cup Final Preview: St Macartan's v St Patrick's Cavan

December 1, 2013 at 10:57 pm


STPATS-STMACARTANSMacCormack Cup Final
St Macartan's v St Patrick's Cavan
Tuesday 7.30pm in Emyvale

The MacRory Cup never fails to amaze.

For the first time in over half a century we have a final between St Macartan's Monaghan and St Patrick's Cavan, the latter boasting the only unbeaten record in this season's race for the most coveted trophy in Ulster Colleges' GAA.

Some will look back on the list of winners of the MacCormack Cup since it was introduced a decade ago and claim that it bears little significance to the team that will walk off with the MacRory in March.  Only Omagh CBS 9 years ago has completed the MacCormack / MacRory double.

However the teams that have contested the league final are usually in contention for the MacRory.  And, for a school new to the top competition, it is an important milestone to reach.

Martin Clarke's St Louis Kilkeel team reached the MacCormack final at the first attempt and nearly pulled off the MacRory back in 2005.

Same last year with St Paul's Bessbrook and now St Patrick's Cavan are building up their confidence for their after-Christmas assault on the MacRory.

Not that the new boys on the block really lacked self-belief.  Most of them played in a terrific Rannafast Cup success last year, traditionally a building block in a good run in the MacRory.

They are unbeaten through the league, and came from behind last week to score 2-2 in the last 10 minutes and snatch a draw with Abbey CBS.

The other team to draw with them is St Colman's – and they came through the same qualifying group as holders St Patrick's Maghera and St Michael's Enniskillen.

Thomas Galligan is playing well in midfield, with captain and centre back Cian McManus driving through and setting up chances for an eager forward line in which Ryan Connolly and Darragh Gannon are setting the scoring standard.

St Macartan's topped Group B with 5 wins, yet they fell heavily in the game they lost!

Despite scoring two goals before St Patrick's Academy raised a flag, the Sem lost by 2-16 to 3-2, an inexplicable collapse when you consider their performances in other games.

Scotstown seniors' key score-getter Conor McCarthy wasn't available for that game, and there is no doubting that he has contributed well since returning to the school side.

Against Dungannon, Cavan minor Tom Hayes hit the net for all three goals and he grabbed his seventh of the campaign last Tuesday against Omagh CBS.

The Cootehill lad, of course, will play against many of the boys he played alongside in the Cavan minor side.

But he has quite a few players beside him who collected the Ulster title with the Farney county in July, including captain Kevin Loughran and three others from the spine of the team Aodh Curran, Mick O'Dowd and Conor McCarthy.

Francis Hughes, a fourth Year student from Clontibret, has made a huge impact at midfield alongside Truagh's Niall Rooney, while there are scorers throughout the attack.

Cavan and Monaghan are serious contenders for the MacRory Cup, and the league title in the school cabinet will add to their confidence levels.

That is why success TONIGHT will mean a lot to either school and that is why it should be an intense game of attacking football.

A hesitant vote to the Sem to end the only unbeaten run left.

St Patrick's Cavan: Mark Fegan, Philip Bogue, Niall Farrell, Donal Monaghan, Shane McManus, Cian McManus, John Joe McGovern, Thomas Galligan, Brendan Argue, Brian Sheanon, Ben Conaty, Caoimhni O'Reilly, Louis Coleman, Darragh Gannon, Ryan Connolly.

Subs: Ryan Brady, Ryan Loftus, James Veale, Ronan O Reilly, Greg Mc Govern, Paudi Donohoe, Kieran Burns, Matthew McKenna, Conor O'Rourke, Shane Moynagh, Thomas Edward Donohoe, David Wilson, David Brady, Jason Walsh, Declan Lunney, Paul Sexton, Christopher Dunne, Daniel Hackett.

St Macartan's: James Morrow, Caolan McIlwaine, Shane Treanor, John Mulligan, Jack Turley, Kevin Loughran, Thomas Lynch, Niall Rooney, Francis Hughes, Michael O'Dowd, Aodh Curran, Brendan Boylan, Conor McCarthy, Tom Hayes and Christopher McAnenly.

Subs: Darragh Hannon, Jamie Smyth, Gary McCaffrey, Francis Maguire, Donal McCarthy, Conor McKenna, James R McKenna, Stephen Mohan, Killian Lavelle, Éimhín Morahan, David McAlister, Daithí Colton, Niall Kearns, Aidan Ward, Aaron Treanor, Cathal McAnespie, Daire Quinn, Thomas O'Brien, James McKenna, James Deery, Jamie Mohan, Caolán McGee.

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Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on December 02, 2013, 08:51:47 PM
Anyone at any of the U21 Championship games? Good win for West Cavan, couldn't make it but they have a very good squad. McLoughlin, Walsh and O'Donnell, Kiernan, Galligan, Farrell and Kelly, Greg McGovern all county Minor and U21 players.

Best of luck to St Pat's tomorrow. I'm sure they have their eyes set on the MacRory but some silverware would certainly give the team a boost.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on December 03, 2013, 08:11:43 PM
Not going well for St pats in McCormack cup final. Half time and they trail 1-3 to 3-5. Pats missed a peno, Tom Hayes got McCartans second goal.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on December 03, 2013, 08:56:26 PM
Lost 3-11 to 1-8.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on December 04, 2013, 04:00:58 PM
Pats were without Pearse Smith, Ronan Reilly,Greg McGovern only came on a sub, and lost and lost the best forward Ryan Connolly early on through injury. They should be stronger by the time the MacRory starts.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: comeysfield on December 06, 2013, 09:15:27 AM
anybody in the park last night at the Vocational school finals ?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on December 06, 2013, 07:22:14 PM
New Cavan jersey was a poor effort. Not a patch on the last one
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mrdeeds on December 06, 2013, 08:15:08 PM
Yeah in the park. Great win for Bailieborough in an exciting game. By far the better team.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on December 06, 2013, 08:55:08 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on December 06, 2013, 07:22:14 PM
New Cavan jersey was a poor effort. Not a patch on the last one

I like it.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: our_fella on December 06, 2013, 08:58:10 PM
Where you seeing the new top lads??
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on December 06, 2013, 08:59:26 PM
No collar and back to the normal blue and white. Its very plain Imo.http://t.co/CflG7nP2sl

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on December 06, 2013, 09:00:33 PM
Quote from: our_fella on December 06, 2013, 08:58:10 PM
Where you seeing the new top lads??

Hoganstand Cavan
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mrdeeds on December 08, 2013, 02:47:32 PM
Castlerahan league champions.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on December 08, 2013, 07:45:05 PM
Quote from: mrdeeds on December 08, 2013, 02:47:32 PM
Castlerahan league champions.

Good to see they have something to show for their efforts this year. The Gaels on the other hand have nothing to show except relegation of their 2nd team. Something must be very wrong in that club to be wasting the talent that they undoubtedly have.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on December 08, 2013, 09:22:28 PM
I like the new Cavan jersey. There is only one shade of blue required - Breffni blue. Looks close to what they wore around the mid 90's
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on December 09, 2013, 05:54:09 AM
If they were going to revert back to something simpler I personally would have preferred something more clean cut like the Limerick or Down shirts, either current or very recent memory not sure which. I think the last shirt was nicer despite the sacrilege of the navy.

But sure if we win in it who gives a 5hyte.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on December 09, 2013, 05:58:33 AM
I've just seen the way they've written An Cabhan on the back. Ugh.

(http://hoganstand.com/Common/NewGallery/cavan%20front%20nad%20pack.jpg)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Blue in hope on December 09, 2013, 10:03:24 AM
Good to see they have something to show for their efforts this year. The Gaels on the other hand have nothing to show except relegation of their 2nd team. Something must be very wrong in that club to be wasting the talent that they undoubtedly have.

Very obvious what's  wrong every manager over the last 5 years have been removed after a year the last two been removed before the years over. Players need to start looking at themselves and the people running the club should support the management team they appoint.
Went to Lacken yesterday it is unfair to except teams to play a league final on a pitch like yesterdays in early December. Players were unable to keep on their feet, when the ball hit the ground it had no bounce .Castlerahan deserved to win they were the hungrier team. Gaels missing loads for some reason,no Chesty,Johnston, ,Crotty,two Meehans,Fortune,Sean Reilly,Paul O Connor ,Dunne (suspended)  from the county final team.
There was a lot of debate in the ground when the Ref moved a 45 in to a 14m free. Are 45s allowed to be brought forward?
On a different note best wishes to Ronan Flanagan hope you make a speedy recovery and it wont be long until we see you playing again.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on December 09, 2013, 01:45:11 PM
Quote from: Blue in hope on December 09, 2013, 10:03:24 AM

There was a lot of debate in the ground when the Ref moved a 45 in to a 14m free. Are 45s allowed to be brought forward?


Could there have been a foul off the ball?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Blue in hope on December 09, 2013, 03:04:04 PM
There was a lot of debate in the ground when the Ref moved a 45 in to a 14m free. Are 45s allowed to be brought forward?


Could there have been a foul off the ball?


Speaking to a ref this morning who told me that a 45 is given for a ball crossing the line of an opponent. If a foul is committed of the ball before the ball is struck the ref should book the player but he can not move it forward. If the ball has been struck he can award a free kick from where the ball landed or where the offence took place. The ball in this case had not been struck so it should not have been moved. He said 45s and kickouts can not be moved forward.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on December 09, 2013, 09:19:49 PM
With christmas on the way people might be looking forward to a break from the football and a chance to buy a few presents. I've finished reading The Fairytale in New York by Paul Fitz and would strongly recommend it to people as a read over the silly season. Some story, some amount of research went into it and very well written. Hope Cavan give him a reason to put pen to paper again at some stage in the not too distant future.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on December 09, 2013, 10:26:57 PM
Quote from: anglocelt39 on December 09, 2013, 09:19:49 PM
With christmas on the way people might be looking forward to a break from the football and a chance to buy a few presents. I've finished reading The Fairytale in New York by Paul Fitz and would strongly recommend it to people as a read over the silly season. Some story, some amount of research went into it and very well written. Hope Cavan give him a reason to put pen to paper again at some stage in the not too distant future.

Read it myself, very enjoyable.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: gortnaleck on December 10, 2013, 02:33:15 PM
Really enjoyed it,read it over a weekend.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: FermGael on December 11, 2013, 10:18:23 PM
Canavan the new manager of Cavan gaels
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on December 11, 2013, 10:24:53 PM
Quote from: gortnaleck on December 10, 2013, 02:33:15 PM
Really enjoyed it,read it over a weekend.

Its good isn't it. Funny and sad at the same time - sad that we have allowed that great tradition of competing at the top to slip so low. Thankfully there is some light at the end of the tunnel now.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on December 11, 2013, 10:35:31 PM
Best of luck to Ronan Flanagan in his recovery. Going to have a groin op, only to hear it was a lot more serious news.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Blue in hope on December 11, 2013, 11:11:43 PM
Peter Canavan manager and Ciaran Donnelly no 2 On a two year Cavan Gaels last two years must be hurting them!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on December 11, 2013, 11:19:05 PM
What's wrong with Ronan Flanagan lads?

Interesting news about Canavan.. Will generate interest but I still think he has yet to prove he is anything other than an ordinary manager.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on December 11, 2013, 11:35:28 PM
He has testicular cancer.

Canavan was apparently on huge money with Fermanagh , one of the reasons he was let go.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on December 11, 2013, 11:39:21 PM
Best of luck to Ronan on his recovery and I think I speak for everyone here when I say that. Hope to see him back in the Cavan jersey soon.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on December 11, 2013, 11:42:36 PM
Ah God.. The poor lad. Well please God he'll make a full recovery. Played a great year for Cavan last year I'm sure we'll see him back soon.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on December 13, 2013, 10:31:52 AM
Frightening really how much is spent  on a County's preparation. At least we didn't bankrupt ourselves.

From HS

Cavan splashed out €503,351 on their county footballers this year.

Delegates at tonight's annual convention in the Kilmore Hotel will hear how expenditure on county teams is up nearly €13,000 from €490,370 in 2012 to €503,351 this year. The rise can be attributed to the Breffni County's extended championship run which saw them qualify for the All-Ireland SFC quarter-finals for the first time.

Despite the bigger outlay in team expenses, the board still posted a profit of €20,686, down from €38,158 last year.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on December 13, 2013, 11:50:41 AM
Well done to Donal Keoghan on retaining his central council seat last night.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: comeysfield on December 13, 2013, 01:33:43 PM
Just for the Record if nothing else the County Board spend 500K on all Teams (not just the senior county team)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on December 13, 2013, 04:26:18 PM
Quote from: comeysfield on December 13, 2013, 01:33:43 PM
Just for the Record if nothing else the County Board spend 500K on all Teams (not just the senior county team)

Not bad going see as Mayo spend over 600 K on their senior men's footballers alone!!!!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on December 13, 2013, 04:43:02 PM
We still made a 20k profit. I think the county board are doing a good job with finances considering the extended runs we had at senior and U21 and all the efforts that are been put in by all our teams. Well done I say!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on December 13, 2013, 08:15:44 PM
There's a poll on sean Johnston over on hoganstand. I see 42% say he has burned his bridges, 33% say he should be brought back and 25% say he is not needed. Seems the man that makes the decisions agrees with the public.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on December 15, 2013, 11:20:13 AM
http://cavangaa.ie/terry-hyland-has-announced-hi-panel-for-the-upcoming-dr-mckenna-cup-competition/

Cavan panel for McKenna Cup.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on December 15, 2013, 11:57:20 AM
So who is missing?

Ronan Flanagan
All the U21's
Gearoid McKiernan
Oisin Minagh

Anyone else?

Good to see Smith and Lyng back. Smith could be the guy to kill Mackey's shoes one day.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on December 15, 2013, 06:34:34 PM
Jack Brady, Jason McLoughlin, Podge O'Reilly all missing for one reason or another..
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on December 15, 2013, 06:41:41 PM
I think I recall jack Brady saying in twitter he had an operation. Mcloughlin was only a sub for club in u21 so presume he also injury. Podge I'm sorry to say may just not be in the managers plans.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on December 15, 2013, 07:06:38 PM
No Podge or John McCutcheon(Is he injured???) is very suprising.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on December 15, 2013, 07:07:27 PM
McLoughlin is definitely injured, didn't even come on against Assan in the U21 Semi-Final. Jack had been delaying an operation all through the last year I think. Podge is a good reliable lad I'd be sorry to see him go from the panel.

What position does Tinnelly play for Kingscourt?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on December 15, 2013, 07:24:02 PM
We all like Podge but he rarely featured when the pitches got hard. Its a tough job being manager but you have to cull the panel. Terry doesn't fancy mccutcheon much either again I think its his lack of pace.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on December 16, 2013, 01:47:05 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on December 15, 2013, 11:57:20 AM
So who is missing?

Ronan Flanagan
All the U21's
Gearoid McKiernan
Oisin Minagh

Anyone else?

Good to see Smith and Lyng back. Smith could be the guy to kill Mackey's shoes one day.

Thomas Corr?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: scoopmine on December 16, 2013, 03:57:21 PM
Tinnelly plays for Kingscourt mostly in the half forward line. No Barry Reilly?  Good to see Smith back. Think Mccutcheon is very hard done by.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on December 16, 2013, 04:12:44 PM
Mccutcheon opted out.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Canalman on December 16, 2013, 04:53:16 PM
Listened last night to Talking History on Newstalk where the author of the 1947 Final book was on. Absolutely hilarious at the beginning as the presenter hadn't a clue about the GAA and asked the author I think if it was Cavan's only AI win.

well worth a visit to the podcast for any Cavan posters here.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: beer baron on December 16, 2013, 07:42:56 PM
John decided to opt out as he has a long term hip injury that he's been struggling to shake off.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Old yeller on December 16, 2013, 08:02:43 PM
Quote from: Canalman on December 16, 2013, 04:53:16 PM
Listened last night to Talking History on Newstalk where the author of the 1947 Final book was on. Absolutely hilarious at the beginning as the presenter hadn't a clue about the GAA and asked the author I think if it was Cavan's only AI win.

well worth a visit to the podcast for any Cavan posters here.

I heard it, sounded like he didn't have a clue about football. He nearly choked when he was told Cavan had five All-Ireland's!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on December 19, 2013, 01:46:13 PM
We've got an All Star!

The 2013/14 Danske Bank Ulster Colleges Football All Stars are as follows: Shaun Patton (St. Eunan's, Letterkenny); Barry Kerr (Our Lady's, Castleblayney), Shea Heffron (St. Michael's, Lurgan), James Rocks (Holy Trinity, Cookstown); Donagh McAleenan (Abbey CBS, Newry), Cian McManus (St. Patrick's, Cavan), Cathal Mulholland (St. Patrick's, Maghera); Cathal McShane (Holy Cross, Strabane), Jarlath Og Burns (St. Paul's, Bessbrook); Conor Doyle (Abbey CBS, Newry), Conor McKenna (St. Patrick's, Armagh), Ryan McAnespie (St. Ciaran's, Ballygawley); Lee Brennan (St. Michael's, Enniskillen), Eoin McManus (do), Danny Tallon (St. Patrick's, Maghera).
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: gortnaleck on December 19, 2013, 02:22:56 PM
We have a Fermanagh All Star ?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mb80b60 on December 19, 2013, 02:43:56 PM
Quote from: gortnaleck on December 19, 2013, 02:22:56 PM
We have a Fermanagh All Star ?

Yes, Cian McManus is from the Teemore club in Fermanagh.  Went to national school in Bawnboy and now plays for St. Pat's.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on December 19, 2013, 03:31:21 PM
Some strange selections on that all star team. Pats and macartans were the 2 best sides in the league, they have trials for the all stars so they can look at players at mclarnon level too, but I think it should be on how the players perform for their schools. And why not announce them after the macrory is over in march
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on December 22, 2013, 04:31:52 PM
Good win for Assan Gaels today in the u21 final, beat cavan gaels by 1.. 12pts to 11
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on December 29, 2013, 07:33:51 PM
I went down to Oldcastle today to see the challenge game against Meath. Meath played with a big wind in the first half but it was close right up until the last couple of minutes when a mistake from Joe Masterson in goal gave Meath a soft goal and they finished the half with 2 good points to lead by a flattering 1-5 to 0-3 at HT. Keating and Stephen Bray both got black cards and had to be substituted in the first half (Tierney came on for Keating). Cavan made a few changes at Ht bringing on Dunne and Farrelly in goals. Dunne hit 1-2 in the first 5 mins (goal from a peno after Tierney was pulled down after going around the keeper for a certain goal). After that we dominated the game and won easy. Big news was Michael Lyng was best player on pitch looking like the Lyng of old, pulling the strings an demanding  the ball. Looks like he has his mojo back. Other good news was Gearoid McKiernan was there doing a bit of running at half time but he didn't feature.

Backs were really good today, really frustrating Meath. Killian Gunner, rory Dunne and Josh hayes were very solid and Clarke did great sweeping up. Dec McKiernan and Turloc Mooney were midfield and dominated the 2nd half against two much bigger men for Meath. Cavan looked very fit and lively and considering they were missing quite a few senior players I was happy to see us win handy enough. According to Hoganstand these were the teams...

Cavan: Joe Masterson, Josh hayes, Rory Dunne, Killian Brady, Packie Leddy, Alan Clarke, Philip Tinnelly 0-1, Turlough Mooney, Declan McKiernan 0-1, Fergal Flanagan, Michael Lyng 0-1, Martin Reilly, Niall McDermott 0-3, Eugene Keating, David Hyland.
Subs: Kevin Tierney 0-4, Aaron Farrelly, Martin Dunne 1-3, Niall Murray, Chris Conroy, Mark Leddy

Meath: Conor McHugh, Caolan Young, Kevin Reilly, Cian McPartland, Seamus Kenny, Padraic Harnan, Bryan Menton 0-1, Conor Sheridan 0-1, Conor Gillespie, Damien Carroll, Padraig McKeever 1-1, David Larkin 0-1, Cillian O'Sullivan, Stephen Bray 0-1, Donal Lenihan 0-1.

Subs: Paddy O'Rourke, Paddy Gilsenan, Graham Reilly, Eoghan Harrington, Sean Curran 0-1, Dalton McDonagh, Michael Newman 0-1.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on December 29, 2013, 11:32:57 PM
Saw lyng 5 or 6 tims with the Gaels this year and he was very sharp. Great asset to have a player of hia ability fit and playing well. Would have been on the panel last year only that couldn't give the commitment,

He was the best player against weatmeath in kells 2weeks ago as well.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on December 30, 2013, 12:01:21 AM
Anyone know the Hastings Cup fixtures and details?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on December 30, 2013, 12:12:05 AM
Hastings cup - http://www.hoganstand.com/ArticleForm.aspx?ID=205010

So if Lyng continues to impress could Terry fit both him and Mackey in the same team?

Cavan still have gilsensan/o mara, Killian clarke, Mcloughlin, mcveety, argue, jack Brady, givney, Damian Reilly, G Mac, Corr, and ronan Flanagan to add to what they have now. Fight for places will be unreal. I wonder could another forward be found though as we are a little light in that area.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on December 30, 2013, 12:31:54 AM
No reason why lyng and mackey couldn't play in the same team. Both are link players and could combine in the half
forward line line. More of the play would probaly go through lyng being a centre forward, that could allow Mackey to get forward more
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on December 30, 2013, 11:48:05 AM
If everyone does stay injury free then Hyland will have a lot of difficult decisions to make later in the year. He will have to consider his midfield where he will have Givney, McKiernan, Damian Reilly, Maybe Corr, Argue, Dec McKiernan and even Mooney.

In goals he has O Mara, Gilsenan and now Farrelly (who incidentally looked very calm in the challenge picking out free men regularly with short kick outs).

He also has lots of options in the backs and as someone else said an U21 or two could burst onto the scene like McVitty & Argue did last year.

Its a long long time since our options were so plentiful and it will be hard to keep everyone happy.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on December 30, 2013, 12:23:25 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on December 30, 2013, 11:48:05 AM
If everyone does stay injury free then Hyland will have a lot of difficult decisions to make later in the year. He will have to consider his midfield where he will have Givney, McKiernan, Damian Reilly, Maybe Corr, Argue, Dec McKiernan and even Mooney.


When push comes to shove id say it will be one off Givney and Argue along side  G, McKiernan (fingers crossed)

Long year hopefully so all get plenty of football.

Good to have a strong panel  :)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on December 30, 2013, 12:42:07 PM
I'm not sure givney and mckiernan are suited to play 8 and 9 as neither has the defensive game that Damian Reilly has, at least they didn't last year.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on December 30, 2013, 03:45:17 PM
It will be Givney and another midfielder as it wont be until the middle of the league before Mckiernan is back to full fitness. Lots of options in that area. G mckiernan still needs to improve his work rate when he returns. No harm trying him as a half forward, as he scores freely, and be used as a 3rd midfielder.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on December 30, 2013, 06:23:08 PM
I think we should be careful with the expectations for Gearoid. I would imagine it will be middle of the League before he even makes an appearance and then there's the return to full match fitness, sharpness and being mentally ready for throwing himself about again at that level to deal with.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on December 30, 2013, 06:45:20 PM
Keating back in action on new years day for Dublin stars against Dublin. Made a big impact since he joined sylvesters
Be interesting to see how Mickey Brady gets on with Ballymun next year,  in his first full year with them
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on December 30, 2013, 06:55:38 PM
Anyone hear a rumour about another Cavan star moving to Sylvester's? I won't mention any names in case it not true.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on December 30, 2013, 07:34:48 PM
Quote from: Itchy on December 30, 2013, 06:55:38 PM
Anyone hear a rumour about another Cavan star moving to Sylvester's? I won't mention any names in case it not true.

Pm me itchy.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on December 30, 2013, 09:18:00 PM
Quote from: Itchy on December 30, 2013, 06:55:38 PM
Anyone hear a rumour about another Cavan star moving to Sylvester's? I won't mention any names in case it not true.


Sylvesters have a few country lads in addition to Keating I think. I understand there are some serious connections there to very senior staff levels at one of the banks and a bit of help can be given on the jobs hunting front. Given the way things are for lads coming out of college it would be easy enough to be tempted by an offer.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on December 30, 2013, 09:37:16 PM
They wouldn't have an array of outsider players like other dub clubs, but still a few  ,beaten earlier this month in the league final by st brigids. Kenneth Sweeney, sligo co player, declan rooney,  down co player, john coughlan offaly county player would be a few of the outsiders. Good few playere would have played under age for Dublin,  dont think they have anyone on the senior panel though
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on December 31, 2013, 12:44:00 PM
Transfers out of the Cavan club game are not good for county in the long run, even if the players are getting exposure to higher levels in another county. With so many young lads in college in Dublin and elsewhere this is a danger that others follow suit. We need to see an increase in the standards within the club game, its the last piece of the puzzle.

Does anyone know what is the story with Barry Reilly of Kingscourt. A huge potential talent but not on the McKenna cup panel. Is he unable to commit, injured or just not being considered??
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on December 31, 2013, 12:51:11 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on December 31, 2013, 12:44:00 PM
Transfers out of the Cavan club game are not good for county in the long run, even if the players are getting exposure to higher levels in another county. With so many young lads in college in Dublin and elsewhere this is a danger that others follow suit. We need to see an increase in the standards within the club game, its the last piece of the puzzle.



I agree and disagree with you there while we would all prefer to see them playing club football with Cavan Clubs its a hell of alot better than them playing club football in Melbourne or Boston.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on December 31, 2013, 12:59:15 PM
Barry Reilly was left off the panel so he could get niggling injuries cleared and get some regular club football.  I saw him a few times this year witj kingscourt and he was fairly average. He needs to get stronger too for senior county football, I remember when he came on against Fermangh in the league last year, he looked very lightweight on ryan mccluskey. And seemed to be pulling out of the physical stuff.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Sea The Stars on December 31, 2013, 01:23:38 PM
McKiernan was togged out for the game with Meath and did a lot of sprinting at half-time. He looked fairly fit to me.

I disagree with mylestheslasher Meath dominated the first half and should have been further than 5 ahead. The sending-off of Bray 5 minutes before half-time and the impact Martin Dunne had swung it for Cavan and in fairness they were comfortably the better team in the second half. Both teams look to be progressing well and both I would expect will challenge for promotion in the league.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on December 31, 2013, 01:40:15 PM
Quote from: Sea The Stars on December 31, 2013, 01:23:38 PM
McKiernan was togged out for the game with Meath and did a lot of sprinting at half-time. He looked fairly fit to me.

I disagree with mylestheslasher Meath dominated the first half and should have been further than 5 ahead. The sending-off of Bray 5 minutes before half-time and the impact Martin Dunne had swung it for Cavan and in fairness they were comfortably the better team in the second half. Both teams look to be progressing well and both I would expect will challenge for promotion in the league.

I missed the first 5 minutes as I was late but Meath may have been winning the midfield battle in the first half they continued to pump in long ball that our backs handled quite easily and we had the vast majority of possession in the 1st half, we just struggled to move the ball into our forwards against the wind and the fact that Meath had a lot of men back. As I said earlier Meath got a lucky goal and two fine points just after, they had very few chances up to that.
Dunne made a difference in scoring terms but it was Lyng who got more and more into the game and Dec McKiernan started breaking ball in the 2nd half. Granted Bray going off made a difference.
Meath are not my concern but they looked sluggish and unfit (maybe they had a training session the day before?), I don't think they will be challenging for Div 1 promotion and they will be doing well to stay in a very tough Div 2.

Gearoid was doing lots of straight line sprinting at half time but as you know with knee injuries its the turning and twisting that does the damage. I'd say he has a way to go yet but it is great to see him involved.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on December 31, 2013, 01:42:07 PM
Quote from: tommysmith on December 31, 2013, 12:51:11 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on December 31, 2013, 12:44:00 PM
Transfers out of the Cavan club game are not good for county in the long run, even if the players are getting exposure to higher levels in another county. With so many young lads in college in Dublin and elsewhere this is a danger that others follow suit. We need to see an increase in the standards within the club game, its the last piece of the puzzle.



I agree and disagree with you there while we would all prefer to see them playing club football with Cavan Clubs its a hell of alot better than them playing club football in Melbourne or Boston.

I see what you are saying but if the county board can do anything for these lads it would be a big help if somehow they can be helped to stay playing in the county. Obviously, emigration is the biggest potential danger in these times.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on December 31, 2013, 01:46:09 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on December 31, 2013, 12:59:15 PM
Barry Reilly was left off the panel so he could get niggling injuries cleared and get some regular club football.  I saw him a few times this year witj kingscourt and he was fairly average. He needs to get stronger too for senior county football, I remember when he came on against Fermangh in the league last year, he looked very lightweight on ryan mccluskey. And seemed to be pulling out of the physical stuff.

You know that for a fact Rodney? I would have thought the best place for him to get fit was on the county panel. You are right about the Fermanagh game but he was coming back from a long injury then and I think it was a mistake to start him in that game. The week before he had come off the bench with 10 mins left and almost single handedly rescued a point against Sligo. Now if he is still injured then fair enough. If they are leaving him to club football its unlikely he will be involved this year so, given that he does need that strength and conditioning training.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on December 31, 2013, 01:56:38 PM
I don't think there is much the county board can do if there isn't work available in Cavan in what they studied in college. Mortimer was unemployed for 6 months back in mayo, when he got work through Parnells, running a gym.

Saying that mullagh is less then an hour from dublin, keating could have still played club football in cavan, but when it was sylvesters that got him work, he was obviously going to play for them
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on December 31, 2013, 01:57:54 PM
Yeah I read that re, barry reilly in the Celt.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on December 31, 2013, 03:12:57 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on December 31, 2013, 01:57:54 PM
Yeah I read that re, barry reilly in the Celt.
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that may the official statement, the actual story may be a bit different in this case
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on December 31, 2013, 03:24:20 PM
Possibly so, he didn't play like a county player at club level, if he was annoyed that he wasn't getting more action

u21s begin the Hastings cup against Offaly on Saturday,  be interesting to see the panel.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on January 01, 2014, 11:35:12 AM
Hastings cup game is in Killeshandra at 2pm if any of you intend having a look.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on January 02, 2014, 11:32:31 PM
Cavan line out as follows on Sunday against Antrim:
1. Conor Gilsenan. Bailieborough.
2. Josh Hayes. Cootehill.
3. Rory Dunne. Redhills.
4. Killian Brady. Mullahoran.
5. Feargal Flanagan. Butlersbridge.
6. Alan Clarke. (Captain) Kingscourt.
7. Niall Smith. Cavan Gaels.
8. Declan McKiernan. Killeshandra.
9. Packie Leddy. Redhills.
10. Martin Reilly.  Killygarry.
11. Micheal Lyng. Cavan Gaels.
12. Turloc Mooney. Redhills.
13. Kevin Tierney. Ballyhaise.
14. Martin Dunne. Cavan Gaels.
15. Eugene Keating. Saint Sylvesters.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on January 03, 2014, 12:14:47 AM
Strong team. All but two have played Senior Championship for Cavan. It would be nice to have a bit of a run in the McKenna Cup.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on January 03, 2014, 12:04:31 PM
Good team even without the College and Injured players. Chance for Declan McKiernan to step up to the mark, had a good year with Killeshandra last year. First starts for Mooney and Packie Leddy in McKenna Cup.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Old yeller on January 03, 2014, 11:08:35 PM
I'd like to see Tinnelly get a good run out in this competition, thought he did well against Meath last weekend. He is superfast!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on January 04, 2014, 11:17:48 AM
He has serious pace, played in a different role against Meath , at half back, usually half forward for Kingscourt. Id say he will feature against at some stage agianst Antrim
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on January 04, 2014, 03:36:46 PM
The u21s had an easy win against Offaly today in 1st game of hastings cup 1.14 to 0.8. Was anyone at it?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on January 04, 2014, 06:22:16 PM
I was there. Good run out for Cavan but a fairly experimental side. We were a lot better than Offally and pulled away well in the first half. Lost our way a bit in the second half but were comfortable throughout. Stand out players for me were Aaron Watson, drove forward time and again, made two great interceptions. Aaron O'Hara at wing back, very solid and added a threat going forward, he made the goal for Niall Walsh. The Cavan No. 12, couldn't figure out who he was but he was the man of the match for me, put in a serious shift. Madden at Full forward was a constant threat and Nevin O'Donnell was very good too but doesn't look fully fit and came off with cramp with about ten to go.

We looked a few levels above Offaly, we looked sharp and cohesive and every player was playing like a lad mad to impress and keep a place on the team. Negatives would be a hesitancy in shooting even in good positions and we didn't pose very much of a goal threat against what was a fairly poor Offaly side. Some difference in the squads, Cavan filled the dugout and there was a row of lads sitting on the ground in front of the dugout, Offaly had about 6 lads sitting on the bench.

Mayo next weekend will give us a proper test of where we are.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on January 04, 2014, 06:34:59 PM
Didnt make the game. Could have been Cian Byrne or bomber as he is known at number 12? Talented player, played soccer with Dundalk in LOI for a while. First time I saw o hara play was in last year in junior semi, stood out, made some str runs, has great pace.

Good to see O Donnell back
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on January 04, 2014, 06:40:16 PM
Stocky chap with Curly hair? I thought the Drumalee lad that played soccer was the No. 15 but I can't be certain.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on January 04, 2014, 06:56:01 PM
Sounds like Enda Flanagan
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on January 04, 2014, 07:52:29 PM
Yeah that could be the lad. What club is he from?

Another worrying thing was midfield. We seemed to be more keen on stopping Offaly gaining primary possession that attempting to win our own. Although I doubt the two lads there were our strongest but it seemed as if we didn't go out to dominate midfield but to stop Offaly dominating.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on January 04, 2014, 08:06:40 PM
Castlerahan, brother of Ronan. He is eligible next year too.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on January 05, 2014, 12:15:17 PM
Good Cavan contingent on DIT panel for O Byrne Cup against Meath today http://www.hoganstand.com/ArticleForm.aspx?ID=207017
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on January 05, 2014, 02:02:11 PM
3 changes to the Cavan starting 15

Niall Murray in for Fergal Flanagan
Givney in for Dunne
McDermott in for Lyng
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on January 05, 2014, 03:42:12 PM
Cavan 3-12 to Antrim 0-12

Great start to the year and great to see us put up a big score in what must have been shocking conditions. There are an awful lot of lads still missing so competition is hotting up for places. Givney got 1-2 from play and Kevin Tierney got 2 goals. It may be on the McKenna cup but winning is a habit and I hope the lads go out and give Down lots of it next Sunday.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on January 06, 2014, 01:16:48 PM
Good win as Antrim have been a bogey team for 5 or 6 years. First win against Antrim in a while. They would have been missing a few lads yesterday as well,  Niall Mckeever with UUJ, Ryan Murray who had a great game against Cavan in the league last year was with Queens.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: packiedevlin on January 06, 2014, 01:57:36 PM
Antrim were missing a few but still had an experienced team named. Cavan were always in control especially after getting the goal so early. It was really windy and cold up there and Cavan handled the conditions much better. Best for Cavan were Mooney he's strong on the ball, good work rate and can break the tackle, Clarke who mopped up a lot of balls and read the game very well and Martin Reilly who was on the ball a lot especially in the first half. Givney made a difference too in the second half when brought out to midfield as the Antrim lads were beginning to win a few balls there. Im not sure on Niall Smith half back, he seemed lost for large parts and it wasn't until late in the second half that he started to make runs up the field, maybe with more experience and confidence in that position he can get better.

Very good performance by the U21s on Saturday who were missing a few key players but were still much superior to Offaly in all positions. Madden full forward was really impressive, I think he'll be a big player for the team this year.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on January 06, 2014, 02:05:25 PM
Yeah they had an experienced team on paper. Scullion, Michael and Thomas McCann back in the team this year, Cj McGourty too , along with a few experienced players who were already there.

Mayo should be a better test next week for the u21s. Down will be a good challenge for the Seniors

Rory Dunne in team of the weekhttp://www.hoganstand.com/ArticleForm.aspx?ID=207137
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on January 08, 2014, 01:32:26 PM
Could  be interesting.  Hope it isn't targeted by thieves.

Cavan to face All Star selection
08 January 2014

Cavan's senior footballers are set to take on the Munterconnact GFC All Stars in a fundraising game which has been provisionally fixed for January 26 at St Bartholomew's Park (throw-in 2.30pm).

Proceeds from the game will be shared evenly between Munterconnacht and the 2014 Cavan senior training fund, and Noel McEnroe, who is Munterconnacht's development committee chairman, believes the game could end up giving the Cavan management some food for thought.

"We're very excited about it, the All Star scheme was a huge success and this will be a great chance to see the cream of club and inter-county in Cavan in action," McEnroe told The Anglo-Celt.

"Considering the number of players on the All Star team who are not presently on the county panel, this game should be an interesting contest and could pose some questions for Terry Hyland and his team."

If Cavan progress to the Dr McKenna Cup final, fixed for the previous evening, the game may be re-scheduled.

The Breffni Club All Stars team, which was revealed back in November, is as follows: Jamie Leahy (Castlerahan); Patrick Carroll (Ballinagh), Colm Duffy (Killeshandra), Fergal Reilly (Castlerahan); Aaron O'Hara (Shannon Gaels), Dara McVeety (Crosserlough), Levi Murphy (Cavan Gaels); Padraic O'Reilly (Ballinagh), Declan McKiernan (Killeshandra); Sean Gaffney (Kill), Killian Clarke (Shercock), Cian Mackey (Castlerahan); Barry McKiernan (Crosserlough), Niall McDermott (Ballinagh),Tom Hayes (CootehillCavan to face All Star selection
08 January 2014

Cavan's senior footballers are set to take on the Munterconnact GFC All Stars in a fundraising game which has been provisionally fixed for January 26 at St Bartholomew's Park (throw-in 2.30pm).

Proceeds from the game will be shared evenly between Munterconnacht and the 2014 Cavan senior training fund, and Noel McEnroe, who is Munterconnacht's development committee chairman, believes the game could end up giving the Cavan management some food for thought.

"We're very excited about it, the All Star scheme was a huge success and this will be a great chance to see the cream of club and inter-county in Cavan in action," McEnroe told The Anglo-Celt.

"Considering the number of players on the All Star team who are not presently on the county panel, this game should be an interesting contest and could pose some questions for Terry Hyland and his team."

If Cavan progress to the Dr McKenna Cup final, fixed for the previous evening, the game may be re-scheduled.

The Breffni Club All Stars team, which was revealed back in November, is as follows: Jamie Leahy (Castlerahan); Patrick Carroll (Ballinagh), Colm Duffy (Killeshandra), Fergal Reilly (Castlerahan); Aaron O'Hara (Shannon Gaels), Dara McVeety (Crosserlough), Levi Murphy (Cavan Gaels); Padraic O'Reilly (Ballinagh), Declan McKiernan (Killeshandra); Sean Gaffney (Kill), Killian Clarke (Shercock), Cian Mackey (Castlerahan); Barry McKiernan (Crosserlough), Niall McDermott (Ballinagh),Tom Hayes (Cootehill
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on January 08, 2014, 09:23:52 PM
McKenna Cup game against Down  is in Kingscourt. A few of the sides Cavan will be facing in the League beaten tonight,
Fermanagh beaten by St Marys, Longford hammered by Kildare and Wexford losing by 9 to UCD. They would have been missing players but not great preparation.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on January 08, 2014, 10:44:02 PM
Unfortunately they have a good bit of time to put things right but hopefully their bad form continues!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: North Longford on January 09, 2014, 06:39:09 AM
Longford only started 2 of their starting championship team from the summer in their 2 matches to date. Last night one of them was the goalie. A lot of experimenting going on with jack at the moment whether its the right thing in the long run is debatable but if the team that lines up against Cavan is remotely close to the ones that have played in the last week then we are rightly foooked!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanforever on January 09, 2014, 02:23:44 PM
Good to see a few Cavan lads in O Byrne Cup action last night, James Farelly was in nets for DCU, Stephen Cooney was corner back for DIT and Conor Madden came on as a sub for them and kicked 2 pts, Levi Murphy half back for AIT and Kevin Mulvany was in FF line for Carlow IT with Joe Dillon appearing as a sub
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on January 09, 2014, 02:28:23 PM
It was surprising that Mulvany didn't even make the U21 panel this year.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on January 09, 2014, 05:46:10 PM
Is Joe Dillon with the U21s? No sign of him there last Saturday.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: anglocelt39 on January 09, 2014, 07:42:50 PM
see above Westside, he came on as a sub for Carlow IT after an hour last night, suggests to me he might be coming back from injury, hard to imagine him not being with under 21 panel
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on January 09, 2014, 07:57:22 PM
I hear the senior team had their gear ransacked when they were out training. The people responsible should be strongly spoken to and given a warning shot to the back of the head. Little scumbags.

So I think I will make my way to Ballyhaunis this weekend to check out the U21s against Mayo. Mayo people tell me they have a good team this year so will be interesting to see how our lads match up.

Why was the senior game moved to Kingscourt? Better security?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on January 09, 2014, 08:49:58 PM
No harm giving clubs a chance of a county game in their pitch anyway this time of year in pre season.. Mckenna cup games only get a few hundred.  Its a lesser journey for Down to travel too having the game in Kingscourt.

Poor form what happened in breffni.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: comeysfield on January 10, 2014, 03:58:22 PM
Think there was a bit of work done on the Main pitch in Breffni so closed down for a little bit
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on January 10, 2014, 04:22:09 PM
Yeah the recent u21 finals were on the 3G.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on January 11, 2014, 11:21:10 AM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on January 09, 2014, 07:57:22 PM
I hear the senior team had their gear ransacked when they were out training. The people responsible should be strongly spoken to and given a warning shot to the back of the head. Little scumbags.

So I think I will make my way to Ballyhaunis this weekend to check out the U21s against Mayo. Mayo people tell me they have a good team this year so will be interesting to see how our lads match up.

Why was the senior game moved to Kingscourt? Better security?

Can't make this game now, wife got called to work. Damn it anyway. I'll have to stick to twitter. Anyone on the board going?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on January 11, 2014, 06:10:06 PM
Saw some stats on the game courtesy of @gaelicfv

Wides Cavan 10 Mayo 5.
Drop Short Cavan 6 Mayo 0.
Breaks Cavan 9 Mayo 7.
Kick outs won clean Cavan 12 Mayo 3
MOTM - Michael Argue

Looks like Cavan were very dominant. Longford lost to Offaly so they would want to up things considerably to beat us now but who knows. If Argue can continue such dominant midfield form we could afford to leave Killian Clarke at full back.

Anyone at the game to give a first hand report?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on January 11, 2014, 06:24:08 PM
Quote from: Westside on January 11, 2014, 06:10:06 PM
Saw some stats on the game courtesy of @gaelicfv

Wides Cavan 10 Mayo 5.
Drop Short Cavan 6 Mayo 0.
Breaks Cavan 9 Mayo 7.
Kick outs won clean Cavan 12 Mayo 3
MOTM - Michael Argue

Looks like Cavan were very dominant. Longford lost to Offaly so they would want to up things considerably to beat us now but who knows. If Argue can continue such dominant midfield form we could afford to leave Killian Clarke at full back.

Anyone at the game to give a first hand report?

I don't think we can afford to have our best player at full back. He is too influential to be left in there.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on January 11, 2014, 06:31:08 PM
Made a serious difference when he was moved to the middle against Cork. He plays in the half back line for UUJ, they obviously feel he has more to offer further out.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on January 11, 2014, 06:35:56 PM
Sankey is there, he could play full back. Is Conor Smith on the panel. He walked out last year but I didn't hear was he asked in again.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on January 11, 2014, 06:39:52 PM
Sankey has been playing Centre back, but with Moynagh now back he will go probably go back into the full back line. Pauric Faulkner is an option at full back too. Would rate Fergal Reilly as a better player then Smith.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on January 11, 2014, 06:41:56 PM
I know what you mean but it's not as if we're weak further forward. And a big presence in the full back line would be a huge bonus. I think he will almost certainly be there to mark Ryan Bell against Derry. Time will tell I suppose.

Why did Smith walk out last year?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on January 11, 2014, 06:45:07 PM
Would be very surprised if Bell isn't midfield.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Blue06 on January 11, 2014, 07:26:20 PM
If Ballinderry make AI Club Final, Bell will probably not be playing against us.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on January 11, 2014, 08:00:37 PM
 With just two changes from last week, Kingscourts Philip Tinnelly and last year's Club Breifne player of the year Cian Mackey both start for the home side.

Cavan line out as follows:

1    Conor Gilsenan        Seaamróga Choill an Chollaigh
2    Joshua Hayes           An Muinchille
3    Rory Dunne              Cnoc Rua
4    Killian Brady            Mullach Odhrainn
5    Philip Tinnely          Dún-A-Rí
6    Alan Clarke               Dún-A-Rí
7    Niall Smith                Gael An Cabhán
8    Declan McKiernan        Cill na Séan Ratha
9    Packie Leddy            Cnoc Rua
10    Martin Reilly         Coill na Gearraí
11    Niall McDermott        Béal Átha na nEach
12    Turloc Mooney       Cnoc Rua
13    Cian Mackey           Caisleán Rathain
14    David Givney          Droichead Uí Dhalaigh
15    Eugene Keating        Naomh Sylvesters

Power NI Dr McKenna Cup Group C. Round 2.

O'Raghallaigh Park, Kingscourt.

2pm Sunday 12th January.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on January 12, 2014, 08:11:53 PM
Anyone in Kingscourt today?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on January 12, 2014, 10:30:50 PM
Some interesting odds for the year ahead.

All Ireland SF

Cavan 100/1


NFL DIVISION 3
Outright Betting   
To lift the trophy
Cavan 15/8
Roscommon 3/1
Wexford 9/2
Sligo 8/1
Limerick 10/1
Fermanagh 10/1
Longford 12/1
Offaly 14/1

All - Stars

Alan O'Mara 20/1
Killian Clarke 16/1 F/B
Tomas Corr 33/1 (F/B)
David Givney 16/1 M/F
Gearoid McKiernan 20/1 M/F
Eugene Keating 25/1 H/F
Cian Mackey H/F
Martin Dunne 11/1 F/F
Seanie Johnston 33/1  :D

SFC

Cavan Gaels 8/11   
Ballinagh 10/1   
Gowna 22/1
Ramor United 7/1   
Lavey 12/1   
Redhills 25/1
Kingscourt 7/1   
Cuchullains 16/1   
Drumgoon 40/1
Castlerahan 7/1   
Killeshandra 20/1   
Killygarry 50/1
Mullahoran 10/1   
Drumalee 20/1   
Denn 50/1
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Old yeller on January 12, 2014, 10:36:28 PM
Another game, another win. Good start to the year, would love to see us win this competition.  I know its only the McKenna cup but wins are wins and its a great habit to get into. Its been a long time since we last won it last, under Mattie Kerrigan I think?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on January 12, 2014, 10:44:29 PM
Quote from: tommysmith on January 12, 2014, 10:30:50 PM
Some interesting odds for the year ahead.

All Ireland SF

Cavan 100/1


NFL DIVISION 3
Outright Betting   
To lift the trophy
Cavan 15/8
Roscommon 3/1
Wexford 9/2
Sligo 8/1
Limerick 10/1
Fermanagh 10/1
Longford 12/1
Offaly 14/1

All - Stars

Alan O'Mara 20/1
Killian Clarke 16/1 F/B
Tomas Corr 33/1 (F/B)
David Givney 16/1 M/F
Gearoid McKiernan 20/1 M/F
Eugene Keating 25/1 H/F
Cian Mackey H/F
Martin Dunne 11/1 F/F
Seanie Johnston 33/1  :D

SFC

Cavan Gaels 8/11   
Ballinagh 10/1   
Gowna 22/1
Ramor United 7/1   
Lavey 12/1   
Redhills 25/1
Kingscourt 7/1   
Cuchullains 16/1   
Drumgoon 40/1
Castlerahan 7/1   
Killeshandra 20/1   
Killygarry 50/1
Mullahoran 10/1   
Drumalee 20/1   
Denn 50/1

Did you not hear he was on the bench today according to some gobshites on hoganstand. Untrue I am told from a reliable source.

I was looking at odds today myself on Paddy Power. Cavan were favourites to beat Down today but Down were shorter odds to win out the McKenna cup. I'm sure there is logic there somewhere!

I wasn't at the game but a great win and the lads seem to be flying fit, obviously keen to start the league strong not like other years. With so many lads making an impact and guys like Turloc Mooney flying, Terry is going to have a seriously hard time keeping everyone happy and picking the right team. Isn't it great to have that problem for a change.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on January 12, 2014, 10:46:49 PM
How are the Gaels as short as 8/11 for the Championship.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on January 12, 2014, 10:48:39 PM
The Seanie Johnston thing seems to be gathering pace. All bullshit I hope.

Great win for the lads today, we're playing a lot of our stronger players so we should be doing well. Good preparation for the League at least, promotion is huge this year.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on January 12, 2014, 11:06:01 PM
I was there and I didn't see him. Anyway another good show from us but as good a feeling as winning is it is still early and the only thing that matters is beating fermanagh in the league. Best today were Rory Dunne, Givney, Mooney and Keating. Lyng came on and did well. Packie leddy well short of fitness needed but he's not been in the senior team before. Signs are good.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on January 13, 2014, 12:14:41 AM
James McEnroe back from Injury among the Subs and Maloney Derham back on the panel this year. A lot of competition.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Blue in hope on January 13, 2014, 09:55:42 AM
How are the Gaels as short as 8/11 for the Championship.

They have no doubt the best panel in the county. They had six players togged out yesterday.

Some good performances by Cavan players yesterday.The conditions were difficult and players seemed to find it difficult to stay on their feet. I though Givney did very well and caused a lot of problems  in around the square in the first half. Rory Dunne is turning out to be a fine full back something Cavan have been missing for years. Hayes did very well in the back line too. Mooney really came into the game when he went to midfield in the second half. G took part in the warm ups before the game it will be a big bonus to have him back.
Terry will have a stronger panel this year with plenty of competition for places which can only be good.All said it has been a good start to the year.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on January 13, 2014, 10:39:57 AM
Yeah, they have lots of players on the panel alright. Had lots on the panel in 2012 and 2013 and didn't deliver.  Unless canavan can change that. Redhills has 3 players on the panel, and would probaly have 4 if  oisin moynagh wasnt away for the year. 

I would say there will be a few changes for the uuj game. Likes of Damien Reilly Michael Lyng getting a start.l
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Blue in hope on January 13, 2014, 10:50:19 AM

Yeah, they have lots of players on the panel alright. Had lots on the panel in 2012 and 2013 and didn't deliver.  Unless canavan can change that. Redhills has 3 players on the panel, and would probaly have 4 if  oisin moynagh wasnt away for the year. 


A lot of internal politics was behind the non performances for the last two years. Good few players are now coming to the end of their careers plus they they have young players coming through who will get their chance under an outside manager.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on January 13, 2014, 03:39:38 PM
Power NI Dr McKenna Cup Group C Round 3. Cavan v UUJ Wednesday 15th January in Kingspan Breffni Park on the 3G pitch at 7.30pm

Hastings Cup Rd3 this Sat 18th Jan v Longford takes place in Abbeylara at 2pm


Rory Dunne was in team of the week again on Hoganstand http://www.hoganstand.com/ArticleForm.aspx?ID=207534
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: packiedevlin on January 14, 2014, 12:21:19 PM
Looks like the second year in a row where Cavan have been shafted in relation to games in the McKenna cup. If this continues where colleges pull out surely there's a case to remove them from the competition altogether? Also, colleges having first option on county players, there's little point in that if they don't fulfill their fixtures. It gives more substance to Mickey Harte saying his players should play with the county team.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: comeysfield on January 14, 2014, 12:28:00 PM
Packie   How / Why have Cavan been shafted in Dr McKenna Cup
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: packiedevlin on January 14, 2014, 12:46:48 PM
Was it Queens who pulled out last year leaving us with 2 games (no chance of best runner up) and now this year the game tomorrow night has been cancelled, lucky we had won our first 2 games so qualifying for the semi and getting a third game. Also, its unfair to people who have purchased season tickets for this competition.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: stronghold on January 14, 2014, 07:29:14 PM
Quote from: packiedevlin on January 14, 2014, 12:21:19 PM
Looks like the second year in a row where Cavan have been shafted in relation to games in the McKenna cup. If this continues where colleges pull out surely there's a case to remove them from the competition altogether? Also, colleges having first option on county players, there's little point in that if they don't fulfill their fixtures. It gives more substance to Mickey Harte saying his players should play with the county team.

The point is that the colleges do not have first choice. Mickey Harte has taken 6 UUJ players, Monaghan 2 Antrim 2, Down 1. How could any team play missing 11 first team players not counting a few injuries and a number in the middle of exams.
Ulster is the only province that some of the managers ignore the competition regulations and get away with it.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on January 15, 2014, 09:55:44 PM
Cavan will meet Monaghan in Mckenna Cup semi on Sunday. They finished as the best runners up from the groups.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on January 17, 2014, 01:35:29 PM
If anyone is thinking of going to the Hastings cup.

THROW IN TIME CHANGED to 1pm for Cavan v Longford in Hastings Cup U21 game this Saturday 18th Jan in Abbeylara.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on January 18, 2014, 05:22:07 PM
Cavan u21 team that started today. Some representation from west cavan.

Chris Magee (cucu)
Stephen McMagaels (S Gaels)
Cillian Clarke (Shercock)
Luke Moynagh (Bboro)
Jonathan McCabe (Arva)
Conor Moynagh (Drumgoon)
Aaron O Hara (S Gaels)
Senan Gilchrist (Lavey)
Michael Argue (Bboro)
Liam Galligan (Templeport)
Joe Dillon (Kings court)
Ben Kiernan (Templeport)
Tom Hayes (Cootehill)
Conor Madden (Gowna)
Padraig Moore (Ballyhaise)



Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on January 18, 2014, 07:54:25 PM
Poor performance today, well the second half was brutal anyway.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on January 18, 2014, 08:17:32 PM
Bit of complacency  crept into the second half display. It was bit like the Hastings Cup final last year, where Cavan dominated 3/4 of the game and threw it away. Still key players to come back into the team, McVeety, Gerard Smith

Subs yesterday

Aaron Farrelly - Ramor                    Andrew Graham - Cavan Gaels
Dara McVeety - Crosserlough           Kevin Bouchier   - Arva
Aaron Watson - Drung                     Michael McDermott - Bulersbridge
Benjamin Kelly - Templeport             Nevin O Donell      - Shannon Gaels
Shane O Rourke - Laragh                  Cian McEnroe       - Castlerahan
Greg McGovern - Swanlinbar              Cian Byrne      - Drumalee
Paul Graham -  Cavan Gaels

Niall Walshe playing with Sligo IT today so wouldn't have been involved
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on January 20, 2014, 08:58:08 PM
100% start to the year at senior and U21. Not bad going. I fancy us to beat Tyrone next week and hopefully set ourselves up for a good start to the league which is really the critical thing.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on January 23, 2014, 08:09:45 PM
Team for the McKenna Cup final

1 Conor Gilsenan Conchur Mac Giolla Seanáin Seaamróga Choill an Chollaigh Bailieborough
2 Joshua Hayes Joshua Ó h ÉIS An Muinchille  Cootehill
3 Rory Dunne Ruarí Ó Duinn Cnoc Rua  Redhills
4 Killian Brady Cillain MacBradaigh Mullach Odhrainn  Mullahoran
5 Philip Tinnely Pilib Mac an tSionnaigh Dún-A-Rí  Kingscourt
6 Alan Clarke Alún Ó Cleirigh Dún-A-Rí  Kingscourt
7 James McEnroe Seamus Mac Conrua Reamor Aontainthe  Ramor Utd
8 Turloc Mooney Turloc Ó Maonaigh Cnoc Rua  Redhills
9 David Givney Dáithí Ó Dhuibhne Droichead Uí Dhalaigh  Mountnugent
10 Martin Reilly Mairtín  Ó Raghallaigh Coill na Gearraí  Killygarry
11 Niall McDermott Niall Mac Dhiarmada Béal Átha na nEach  Ballinagh
12 Michael Lyng Michael Ó Loinn Gael An Cabhán  Cavan Gaels
13 Cian Mackey Cian Ó Maca Caisleán Rathain  Castlerahan
14 Kevin Tierney Caoimhín Mac Tiarnaigh Beal átha hÉis  Ballyhaise
15 Eugene Keating Eoghann Ó  Ciiteann Naomh Sylvesters  St. Sylvesters.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on January 23, 2014, 09:40:13 PM
I fancy us to win this final but I think Harte will be keen to keep the new up and comings in their place too. Should be a fascinating match and unusually I reckon both teams will be going very hard to win.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on January 23, 2014, 10:20:42 PM
Tyrone team v Cavan Morgan; McCrory Clarke Tierney; McGinley Harte McCann; McKenna McBride; Kane McGuigan Lavery; McNeice Donnelly RO'Neill

2011 U21 Team

Tyrone: N Morgan; R Pickering, R McNamee, F McQuaid, N Sludden, G Teague, S McKenna, N McKenna [0-2], R Donnelly [0-1], P McNeice, P Harte [0-1], D McNulty, K Coney, M Donnelly [0-1], R O'Neil [0-4]. Subs: C Gervin [0-1] for McGuigan, K Mossey for McNabb, D McNulty for McNeice, J McCullagh for McNulty
       

2012 U21 TeamTyrone:

D McAnenly, B Tierney (0-1), D McNally, HP McGeary, N Sludden (0-1), C Clarke, T McCann, H Og Conlan (0-1), S Warnock, S Tierney (0-1), T Canavan (0-1, f), R Donnelly (0-2, 2f), D McCurry (0-3, 3f), C McAliskey, C Daly.Subs: P Mallon for McCann, S McGuigan for Warnock, C Grugan for Conlan, P McNulty for Donnelly, J McCullagh for Daly

They have a good spread from the 2011/12 U21 teams playing. Should be a good game. Be sweet to beat Tyrone again
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on January 25, 2014, 08:42:59 PM
Seems our U21s crashed out of Hastings cup today due to kicking a crazy amount of wides in a game they were mostly on top in.  The result doesn't worry me too much but I would be concerned about where our scores will come from against the tougher teams. For all the great U21 teams we've had in the past few years we have not got a potential top top class forward in the mix and that has been our weakness. For this years team it looks like Conor Madden, Andy Graham, Nevin O Donnell will Bouchier will be the lads tasked with the scoring -  the jury is out on whether those lads have the fire power to do it. Anyway, no harm losing, you need wake up call sometimes before going into the championship and Cavan got it today. Next up Celtic Park and the tough challenge of Derry.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on January 25, 2014, 10:31:36 PM
We didn't have one forward that played well. You could see Cavan's main players really willing to take the fight to Roscommon, Argue, McVeety, Moynagh, Watson, all played very well. We had a lot of passengers though. Both Grahams and Gilchrest contributed very little. O'Donnell, Niall Walsh and McEnroe were all completely off their game. A lot seemed to be expected of Madden when he came on but he was playing very deep.
It might be the kick in the arse they need, there's a lot of talk about how strong the panel is, how difficult it is to pick the best 15 etc. They strolled through their first 3 games and it looks to me like complacency crept in. Cavan just didn't look like their heads were in the game. We looked like a side waiting for things to happen instead of making things happen. They took the finger out after the Roscommon goal but didn't have the firepower and the Rossies had closed up shop by then.
There is the spine of a very good side there, the draw is about as tough as we could have asked for but there is a lot of work to do between now and 12th March. 
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on January 31, 2014, 02:08:01 PM
Will there be a game tomorrow night?  Been ""Shockin" these last few days.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on February 03, 2014, 10:09:20 PM
Jaysus its like a morgue in here!

Any thoughts on the seniors ahead of the Offaly game? Keating had a great game but I'd love to see him the odd time just turn and run at his man. He'd go straight through him with the power he has. That FF line would bag a goal or two if he did that once or twice.

Tierney won some nice ball at times but he just has to start kicking a few points, he had a few chances to get a shot away but waited. We know he has the eye for a goal but he needs to be hitting 2/3 points a game and as they say the goals will come. He might get another shot against Offaly but Dunne was looking very sharp in that game against Meath and he will get in there soon and will knock over a few points.

Lyng and Mackey are awful similar and I wonder along with Martin Reilly in that HF line is it a bit on the small side? I just don't think all three of them will last there in the championship. Likewise I think Mooney has great potential but not sure about midfield for him. Mooney in the HF line might solve both problems as he does have an eye for a point (even if his few efforts against Fermanagh were v poor). Midfield will likely include Gearoid in a few weeks (most likely will be back for Wexford) but I also think Argue could end up in there too and Givney could be freed up to go up to the forwards.

The backs look solid with a few of last years team yet to come back fully such as Clarke, McLoughlin and Damian Reilly. Some were saying that McEnroe was poor but I thought he had a great 1st half and just tired. He was also excellent in the McKenna cup against Monaghan. He's not long back after injury though.

Gilsenan was solid in goals but when O Meara comes back he has the more accurate kick out, that will be an interesting contest.

All in all I think we should beat Offaly, a team we have a shocking record against, but we will need to be better than we were on Sunday.

I also think we looked nervous on Sunday, almost waiting for the whistle when we should have been upping our effort. It got me thinking that there is pressure on the lads to win this year with all the talk of us walking Div 3 and being too good for it etc. Probably an expectation the lads never had to deal with before.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: comeysfield on February 07, 2014, 10:53:09 AM
Any word on a team for the weekend, any truth that Turloch Mooney is out with injury
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanforever on February 07, 2014, 01:35:57 PM
So I hear and add Toasty, Mackey and Givney to that list
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanman on February 07, 2014, 02:07:06 PM
Turloch Mooney out for a large amount of time, big loss to Cavan & Redhills. Toasty, Mackey, Givney & Lyng out this weekend coming. Toasty dislocated one of his fingers vs Fermanagh. Mackey picked up knock as well. So only Martin Reilly left form the midfield and half-forward line that started last Sunday. Hopeful that Damien O'Reilly  will be back.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on February 07, 2014, 04:10:29 PM
What happened Mooney?

As I see it you stick Damien Reilly Ctr Back. Cillian Clarke Midfield with Dec McKiernan. McDermott Ctr Forward with Martin Reilly and maybe Niall Smith beside him. Keating, Dunne and Tierney in FF line.

Awful lot of change if these stories are true.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on February 07, 2014, 04:19:01 PM
Mooney doesn't seem to have much luck with injuries
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: comeysfield on February 07, 2014, 04:24:02 PM
Not sure with Mooney but he had to have an Op so does sound good for the poor lad, so sounds like our strength in depth will be tested and balancing between Senior and U21
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanman on February 07, 2014, 05:06:53 PM
Mooney had an accident while doing weights, had to have emergency surgery.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on February 07, 2014, 05:48:48 PM
Big blow to lose so many, really unsettles the side going into a tough game and takes away a few of our tougher most experienced lads. A tough ask just became a lot tougher.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on February 07, 2014, 07:58:19 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on February 07, 2014, 04:10:29 PM
What happened Mooney?

As I see it you stick Damien Reilly Ctr Back. Cillian Clarke Midfield with Dec McKiernan. McDermott Ctr Forward with Martin Reilly and maybe Niall Smith beside him. Keating, Dunne and Tierney in FF line.

Awful lot of change if these stories are true.

That would be a very weak midfield i'd say Argue would be ahead of McKiernan.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanman on February 07, 2014, 10:00:32 PM
Cavan team

Conor Gilsenan

Joshua Hayes Rory Dunne Killian Brady
James McEnroe Damien O Reilly Fergal Flanagan

David Givney Declan McKiernan

Niall McDermott Michael Lyng Martin Reilly
Martin Dunne Eugene Keating Kevin Tierney
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on February 07, 2014, 10:02:27 PM
Terry normally doesn't bother with messing about naming fake teams so I imagine that one is genuine. Seems not as many injuries as was thought. Looks a decent team.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanforever on February 08, 2014, 06:26:33 PM
Givney is definitely out although named in the team
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on February 09, 2014, 10:28:25 AM
Bit of a worry today if Givney is also out. Argue will probably come in there but as good a prospect that he is he is still very inexperienced at this level. I know Damian Reilly is also a fine player but Clarke has owned the Ctr Half position and knows what is expected from him, Damian will be less familiar. Given all this I think this will be a tight one and I wouldnt be surprised if it went either way by a point or two.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on February 09, 2014, 10:39:44 AM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on February 09, 2014, 10:28:25 AM
Bit of a worry today if Givney is also out. Argue will probably come in there but as good a prospect that he is he is still very inexperienced at this level. I know Damian Reilly is also a fine player but Clarke has owned the Ctr Half position and knows what is expected from him, Damian will be less familiar. Given all this I think this will be a tight one and I wouldnt be surprised if it went either way by a point or two.

I would be worried myself i have critisid Givney in the past but he has improved again this year and will be a hugh loss.  A couple of weeks on and we would have Gearoid.  If we break even at midfield today i think we will win.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on February 09, 2014, 05:44:16 PM
Good win today.  Any reports on the  game?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on February 09, 2014, 07:57:47 PM
I'd be delighted to give you a report Denn Forever.

Cavan lined out as follows. Gilsenan, K Clarke, R Dunne, Hayes, D Reilly, McEnroe, Flanagan, D McKiernan, Argue, Gunner, McDermott, M Reilly, Dunne, Keating, Tierney.

Cavan started really well with the breeze, put together some great moves. Tierney was in for a goal early on but his right footed shot just went over the bar. After that Dunne & Keating kicked some fine scores. Dunne in particular was in lethal form of both feet, from tight and angles and even a big one from out the field. Cavan were 7 nil up and then went to sleep. Offaly got a foothold in the middle and Niall McNamee got two quick points, within 30s of him kicking Dunne in front of the ref and linesman and not getting the red he deserved or the yellow. Incidentally the ref from Mayo was very poor I thought and he gave  Offaly some lovely handy frees to get back into contention 9-5 at half time. Second half we started well, Keating got a nice point and then when Offal came out with the ball Argue turned it over, he gave in to Dunne who drew the keeper and ofloaded to keating who kicked it into the empty net (bit like the London game last year except he scored this one!) the rest of the half was poor stuff, lots of turn over and no end product. Offaly drove loads of high balls in but Clarke and Dunne dealt easily with it.

Overall a good two points but we need to start burying teams like Offaly. They were a poor team with few ideas. Best for us was Josh Hayes I thought, put in a mighty shift. Argue did very well at Midfield and Martin Reilly worked hard. We were solid at the back in general and never really looked in danger of losing. Looking at todays results it seems Wexford can't be that good and if we get a few lads back we should give them a good run.

Interestingly I think all out scores today were from play.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on February 09, 2014, 08:10:55 PM
Wexford have have losts a few players from last year, Lee Chin concentrating on Hurling this year, he was a very good player in defence for Wexford at half back, David Murphy who was centre back for a number of years has retired and Red Barry a quality forward has also retired, so they are not as strong as other years. With the couple of weeks break there should be a few players back for Cavan, Wexford will still be a decent outfit with Ciaran Lyng, Brosnan, PJ Banville but I think we can beat them down in Wexford and be in a great chance of promotion.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on February 10, 2014, 04:01:43 PM
What did you think of the ref yesterday Rodney. I thought he was cat. Seemed to be working off a different set of rules to everyone else. A few times a Cavan man went to ground and it was ok for an Offaly player to lie on top of him. Two ridiculous frees given against Rory Dunne. Blatant red card for Mcnammee and he didnt even get a booking, even worse he just had a wee chat with him. Niall McDermott was almost killed with a few very heavy tackles but got no frees. He was the same lad that was ref when we played Cork in the U21's and I thought he did us no favours that day either. Hopefully we won't see him again.

One bit of skill I forgot to mention above was Martin Dunnes ball to McDermott for his missed goal chance. It was an incredible pass, McDermott didnt even have to stretch for it and it was a bad bad miss that he didnt bury it. He only had to side step the keeper and roll it in.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on February 10, 2014, 05:31:45 PM
Same fella that reffed the u21 semi last against Cork. Be interesting if they pair Givney and Mckiernan together once Mckiernan gets a few games or, stick one of them in the half forward line. Michael Argue had a good game in the middle, but doubtful he will feature against Wexford with the u21 championship starting soon. Josh Hayes is having a good year so far with Cavan, showing the type of form that got him player of the year with UCD 2 years ago.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on February 12, 2014, 04:29:57 PM
Who do you think will be the midfield partnership if all players are fit and well come championship time? I think it will still be Givney and possibly Argue. Gearoid would be a 3rd midfielder/ wing forward. What do ye reckon?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on February 12, 2014, 04:34:20 PM
Yeah I'd agree with that. Mooney can play midfield too, but more likely will be in the half forward line,though there is strong competition in the haf forward line too.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: comeysfield on February 14, 2014, 05:26:18 PM
Not sure too many league games will go ahead but anybody want to name a few winners and lossers
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on February 14, 2014, 07:33:52 PM
All games off this weekend
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: comeysfield on February 15, 2014, 08:51:10 PM
killinkere vs drung going ahead you can all come up and watch a classic !!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on February 16, 2014, 04:23:24 PM
Well done to St Pats. Late goal put them into the McRory semis 1-10 to 0-10.

I believe Eugene Keating was central to Ulster's semi final win in the inter pros, kicking 7 points.

Cavan ladies won too, first win of the league besting Clare by a goal despite having 3 players sin binned.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on February 17, 2014, 11:19:54 AM
Highlights of the St Pats game.  Some good long range points.

http://www.ulstercollegesgaa.org/general/videos-match-highlights-st-patricks-cavan-1-10-st-michaels-enniskillen-0-10/
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: packiedevlin on February 17, 2014, 01:22:53 PM
Anyone have the Pat's lineup?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on February 17, 2014, 01:48:27 PM
Never say die seems to be part of Cavan football DNA these days. Great to see that.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Blue in hope on February 17, 2014, 03:34:14 PM
St Pats Team  that beat St Michaels on Sunday In Clones

ST PATRICK'S – M Fegan; P Bogue, D Monaghan, D Lunney; N Farrell, C McManus, B Argue; T Galligan, G McGovern; L Coleman, R Connolly, D Brady; T E Donohoe, M McKenna, C O'Reilly. Subs: S Tierney for Coleman (42), R Loftus for Lunney (45), P Smith for Donohoe(48), J J McGovern for Brady (62, BC).
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on February 17, 2014, 03:37:58 PM
Hopefully Conaty and Darragh Gannon will be back for the Semi. Pearse Smith did very well when he came on, missed all of the League before Christmass. Ryan Connolly hit some scores in the first half, great talent.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: elk on February 18, 2014, 09:06:57 AM
Quote from: rodney trotter on February 17, 2014, 03:37:58 PM
Hopefully Conaty and Darragh Gannon will be back for the Semi. Pearse Smith did very well when he came on, missed all of the League before Christmass. Ryan Connolly hit some scores in the first half, great talent.
I thought they struggled for periods of the game but at the end of the day they seemed to want it that little bit more than St. Micheals. Improvement needed for the semi's, looks a very open MacRory this year.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on February 18, 2014, 12:50:20 PM
Probaly a bit of nerves. First time Pats have been in the Quarter finals of the McRory in a long time. It was alway going to be a tough game with Enniskillen, they had a few Co Minors from last year from Fermanagh & Tyrone like Lee Brennan, . Pats beat them in the group stages of league by 3, so both sides would have been familiar. There was 2 key forwards missing for Pats, hopefully they will be back the next day. Still lots to  improve on
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on February 19, 2014, 10:51:32 AM
For those with good internet access and can't make the game, Armagh TV are streaming the game.


For the first time ever, the Power NI Dr McKenna Cup Final will be streamed LIVE around the World by Linwoods Armagh TV. The game was moved to the Armagh Athletic Grounds on Monday morning after concerns that the original ground in Brewster Park, Enniskillen wouldn't be deemed playable. Tyrone and Cavan will contest the final with a throw in time of 8pm. Extra time will be required if the teams are level after normal time.

This is great news for Gaels who are situated around the globe and not able to make the Final. They can simply tune in by visiting the following link and watch the game free of charge.

http://www.armaghgaa.net/armaghtv





Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on February 23, 2014, 07:14:53 PM
I see Keating and Mackey were both subbed early in the Railway cup today, anyone know was it an injuries or something else.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on February 26, 2014, 11:49:35 AM
Seen this on HS.

Semi Final is Friday night 28th in the Athletic grounds Armagh 7.30 v Maghera. A tough test but hopefully Pats can show no fear

I wonder how many McNichols are on the  Maghera team?

Well done  to the Cavan  Institute on  winning the Student's Cup at Queen this weekend.

Triple take: triplets deliver for Cavan Institute
25 February 2014


Dan, Jack and Andrew Wharton.
When Cavan Institute won the Corn Na Mac Léinn at the weekend in Belfast, one fifth of their starting team was made up of the Wharton family from Cornafean.

Triplets Dan, Andrew and Jack all played key roles in their 1-8 to 0-5 win over North West Regional College.

A number 2, 4 and 15 - backs against forwards in training must be some craic!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on February 27, 2014, 05:53:06 PM
So we're without Keating going into the Wexford game. A massive loss to the team. With Gearoid and Corr not yet fully fit, Argue and Clarke (presumably) gone to the U21s and Mooney injured it's hard to see how we're going to balance putting out a strong midfield and a physical ball winner in the full forward line. It's annoying to think this happened in a Railway Cup game with a few hundred spectators and nothing to play for really.

What changes do ye think Terry and Co. will make for Sunday?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on February 27, 2014, 05:56:41 PM
Injuries happen, Wexford have plenty too, Ciaran lyng being one. Damien Reilly can slot in at midfield, done well there last year. Move McDermott in to the FF line, maybe bring McKeever in at half forward.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on February 27, 2014, 06:05:15 PM
Is Alan Clarke back? Of course injuries happen but I'd much rather go to New Ross with Keating lining out at FF than not. Still, good chance for the rest of the panel to stake a claim. Wexford will be one of the favourites to go up and with the head to head rule a win on Sunday would mean more than the 2 points.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on February 27, 2014, 06:12:23 PM
Wexford were hammered by Roscommon in the previos game, have a big injury list and had retirements since last year. I dont see why they would be favs to go up to be honest and if we do beat them it would probaly end their promotion hopes. I think we can beat them, we done well last year against Monaghan and Meath in the league without Keating.

Not sure on Clarke
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on February 28, 2014, 07:08:56 PM
Going to be tough for us without Keating on Sunday. I can see Mackey and Dunne in 2 man forward line with Lyng back in half forward with McDermott and maybe Fergal Flanagan. Givney will be midfield, need him there as Gearoid can't be fit yet. Damien Reilly likely beside him. Expect Clarke will be back. I think we can sneak it still but it will be very tough.

Good luck to St pats this evening, would be a super achievement for cavan football if they could go further.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on February 28, 2014, 09:03:39 PM
Pats beaten 9 pts to 1.4
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on March 01, 2014, 09:44:29 AM
Is it definite Keating is out? Hyland said he was only a slight doubt when interviewed in the Celt earlier in the week. Even without him its a great chance for someone else to stand up and be counted. Tierney for example could get a chance and raise his game and take it. He really needs to improve his point taking though.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: gortnaleck on March 02, 2014, 06:16:19 PM
I'm having trouble getting the club results
from both Cavan GAA and the Arvagh website.
They won't open up.Anyone else have this problem
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Old yeller on March 03, 2014, 06:00:56 PM
Anybody at the match yesterday?  Who was best for Cavan? I was away the whole weekend and missed everything
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on March 06, 2014, 01:42:29 PM
Joe Brolly doesn't like Cavan's brand of football.  Shock Horror.


"The one real anomaly in the League is The Black Death (ie Cavan)"
06 March 2014


Joe Brolly gets his point acrossCavan may have three wins from as many outings under their belt in the Allianz FL Division 3 today but Joe Brolly is not impressed - and that's putting it mildly!

In his weekly column in Gaelic Life, the outspoken pundit lavishes praise on Tyrone's new attacking brand of football and the high standards set by Donegal and Derry but it is not without criticism and Terry Hyland and the Breffni County bear the brunt of it.

"The one real anomaly in the League is The Black Death (ie Cavan). They have continued to play the most horrible, defensive football the game has ever seen, oblivious to the trend towards attack based, non-fouling football," he writes.

"Their statistics are thoroughly depressing. In three games, they have conceded an average of just 0-8 per game, which is unsurprising given the fact that they have turned the goal-line into a human wall. They are the only team in the entire league not to have conceded a goal.

"A warning: Please resist the temptation to go watch them play, as this will only encourage them. It may also lead to others catching the black death, which is fatal to all known forms of Gaelic football."


Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on March 06, 2014, 01:47:54 PM
He's a whore. He would write any shite to sell papers. After the Sean Cavanagh incident last year I lost all respect for him. Didn't ultra defensive Cavan put 25 points past his beloved Derryclast year.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Babe Ruth 47 on March 06, 2014, 05:50:11 PM
A week before we play Derry in the U21s and he comes out with this. Not surprised.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: CC1 on March 06, 2014, 07:17:51 PM
Didn't he say something similar prior to the last time we beat Derry.   8)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on March 07, 2014, 12:50:14 AM
Any word on how preparations have gone for the U21s up to now? It seems nice and quiet which is a good thing. I gather Derry have high hopes for their side this year and they, like all of Ulster, have had Cavan in their sights for quite some time now. If we get over this one I'd give us a great chance at bagging another provincial title but it's a big hurdle straight out of the gates.

Cavan have a highly talented bunch too, but are we asking too much to expect yet more success?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on March 07, 2014, 06:09:38 PM
To go to Derry and get a result and then face Tyrone in the next round is a huge ask in an Ulster quest. But the lads will be taking it one game at a time. The team's expectations of themselves are very high I gather but we've seen some major problems in the Hastings Cup, notably lack of fire power. Sincerely hope Clarke or Argue aren't involved on Sunday.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on March 07, 2014, 08:24:02 PM
Quote from: Westside on March 07, 2014, 06:09:38 PM
To go to Derry and get a result and then face Tyrone in the next round is a huge ask in an Ulster quest. But the lads will be taking it one game at a time. The team's expectations of themselves are very high I gather but we've seen some major problems in the Hastings Cup, notably lack of fire power. Sincerely hope Clarke or Argue aren't involved on Sunday.

They won't be part of the panel, why would they start including U21s a few days before an Ulster championship game when they haven't done that in the past few years.

Derry are resting their own too, like Ryan Bell.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on March 07, 2014, 09:14:56 PM
I agree rodney, lots of people were calling for their inclusion, good to see the management sticking to the way things have gone for the previous few years.

1   Conor Gilsenan   Conchur Mac Giolla Seanáin   Seamróga Choill an Chollaigh
2   Joshua Hayes   Joshua Ó hAodha   An Muinchille
3   Killian Brady   Cillain MacBradaigh   Mullach Odhrainn
4   Jason McLoughlin   Jason Mac Lochlainn   Gael Na Sionnaine
5   Feargal Flanagan   Fearghal Ó Flannagain   Droichead an Bhuitlearaigh
6   James McEnroe   Seamus Mac Conrua   Reamor Aontainthe
7   Mark McKeever   Marcus Mac Íomhair   Loch Gamhna
8   Gearoid McKiernan   Gearóid MacTiarnann   Muilleann Iarann
9   Damien O Reilly   Damien Ó Raghallaigh   Béal Tairbirt
10   Cian Mackey   Cian Ó Maca   Caisleán Rathain
11   Niall McDermott   Niall Mac Dhiarmada   Béal Átha na nEach
12   Martin Reilly   Mairtín  Ó Raghallaigh   Coill na Gearraí
13   Kevin Tierney   Caoimhín Mac Tiarnaigh   Beal átha hÉis
14   Martin Dunne   Martin Ó Doinn   Gael An Cabhán
15   David Givney   Dáithí Ó Dhuibhne   Droichead Uí Dhalaigh

Hopefully we'll have enough for Sligo.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on March 07, 2014, 09:18:26 PM
Fairly strong team.

Subs: Alan O'Mara, Damien Barkey, David Hyland, Ronan Flanagan, Packie Leddy, Declan McKiernan, Niall Murray, Turloc Mooney, Niall Smith, Philip Tinnelly, Christopher Conroy

Good options on the bench, like Flanagan, Mooney, Niall Murray, Tinnelly
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Blue in hope on March 08, 2014, 10:48:39 AM
I am hearing we will be missing one of our named full forward line tomorrow due to injury
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: comeysfield on March 12, 2014, 02:40:10 PM
any sign of a team
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on March 14, 2014, 11:01:25 AM
WELCOME THE JUNGLE

A fight night tonight in The Imperial

GOWNA vs MULLAHORAN.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: comeysfield on March 14, 2014, 03:52:22 PM
Not a great idea in my mind
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on March 14, 2014, 08:49:26 PM
1 Conor Gilsenan Conchur Mac Giolla Seanáin Seamróga Choill an Chollaigh
2 Joshua Hayes Joshua Ó hAodha An Muinchille
3 Rory Dunne Ruarí Ó Duinn Cnoc Rua
4 Feargal Flanagan Fearghal Ó Flannagain Droichead an Bhuitlearaigh
5 Mark McKeever Marcus Mac Íomhair Loch Gamhna
6 James McEnroe Seamus Mac Conrua Reamor Aontainthe
7 Damien O Reilly Damien Ó Raghallaigh Béal Tairbirt
8 Gearoid McKiernan Gearóid MacTiarnann Muilleann Iarann
9 Killian Brady Cillain MacBradaigh Mullach Odhrainn
10 Cian Mackey Cian Ó Maca Caisleán Rathain
11 Niall McDermott Niall Mac Dhiarmada Béal Átha na nEach
12 Martin Reilly Mairtín  Ó Raghallaigh Coill na Gearraí
13 Kevin Tierney Caoimhín Mac Tiarnaigh Beal átha hÉis
14 Martin Dunne Martin Ó Doinn Gael An Cabhán
15 Eugene Keating Eoghann Ó  Ciiteann Naomh Sylvesters

Good to see Keating back
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on March 15, 2014, 09:50:14 AM
I hope Tierney puts in a performance this week. He had a good pre-season but hasn't really been in any game since. Fair play to Terry for giving him every chance to come good and show the talent he undoubtedly has. Terry is good at that, he did the same with Niall McDermott who was quiet for a few games but popped up with 1-3 last day to beat Sligo. Keating back is a big bonus. Our record against Longford is very poor and the last time I saw us play them was in the back door game a few years ago which was, without doubt, the lowest point in Cavans recent history. Time to put this one to bed. We could do with getting these two points and take the pressure off the last 2 games.

Anyone think some of the U21's outside Clarke and Argue will feature for the seniors later in the year? That half back line of McVitty, Moynagh and Smith is really exciting looking.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on March 15, 2014, 01:35:47 PM
Even when Tierney was the main man with the U21s he rarely tormented teams, he'd pull the odd stroke of brilliance and lash in a goal and knock over frees but I don't think he ever dominated a game like we've seen Gearoid or Jack Brady or McDermott do at that level. As long as he keeps working hard I think Terry will stick with him and he'll grow into a role in the team.

If we win tomorrow we're basically promoted. Only Limerick could trouble us then, if we win tomorrow and Limerick lose we're promoted. We've put ourselves in such a great position but it wouldn't be unlike Cavan to do things the hard way!!

It's hard to see any of the U21s out from Clarke and Argue making it onto the Cavan starting 15. There is probably room for a full forward line player on the bench if we managed to go on a run and one of the U21s starred up front but I don't think that's likely. McVitty will be involved and to be fair Gerry Smith is a very similar player but probably has more pace so who knows he could be involved, still has another year at U21 though.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on March 15, 2014, 02:51:52 PM
1 Roscommon 4 4 0 0 82 57 8
2 Cavan 4 4 0 0 57 35 8
3 Longford 4 2 2 0 57 60 4
4 Limerick 4 2 2 0 60 66 4
5 Sligo 4 2 2 0 56 62 4
6 Fermanagh 4 1 3 0 69 72 2
7 Wexford 4 1 3 0 51 61 2
8 Offaly 4 0 4 0 48 67 0

Longford would be back in the promotion race with a win tomorrow, will be tough game. Any win will do.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on March 15, 2014, 03:12:37 PM
Longford still have to travel to Sligo and Limerick so it's far from easy for them even if they do beat us but we will be looking over our shoulder for sure. A win tomorrow will almost certainly send us up. Huge chance.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on March 16, 2014, 07:24:38 PM
PROMOTION!! Fantastic stuff to be up with 2 games left.

So, what's for the rest of 2014? This was the main thing supporters wanted. To have achieved it with 5 straight victories was unexpected, I was certain there would be bumps in the road along the way. What would people consider an achievable goal for the rest of the season? For me beating Armagh, a good showing in the next round and getting a couple of wins in the qualifiers (dependant on the draw of course) would be a very successful 2014.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on March 16, 2014, 07:38:10 PM
Winning Division 3 title, obviously.  Would be great to have a cup along with promotion. And thats what the player's and management will want too. Keating didn't start today, was a bit surprised to have seen his name on the team sheet. But he will be back for the League final,  Givney, Alan Clarke, too. Great to have finally gotten out of Divison 3 . Wouldn't be thinking of the championship yet, will see how Cavan get on in the League final against the free scoring rossies... The final 2 games in the league would give lads coming back from injury and squad players a chance to impress
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on March 16, 2014, 07:56:54 PM
I heard at the match Keating had the flu.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Old yeller on March 16, 2014, 08:01:20 PM
Absolutely fantastic day for Cavan football. This is exactly what we all were asking for at the beginning ofvthe year. To win the cup now would be brilliant. Roscommon are putting up big scores but they are also conceding a lot too
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on March 17, 2014, 07:35:20 PM
Thought the performance was quite poor but then again when you play 5 games in a tough division you are bound to have some tough and tight games. Cavan of the past would have folded and lost that game and maybe the Sligo one too. The winning of the game yesterday was from the bench. I thought McKeever was class when he came on, he upped the pace of the attack and just brought an urgency and drive that was missing. He might be an important player of the bench this year if Terry feels he hasnt 70 mins in him. I also thought Lyng did well when he came on, winning some real dirty ball and putting in some nice balls while he clearly is short on fitness he still had time to do a rugby tackle Brian O Driscoll would have been proud off. Also glad to see Tierney out winning ball and kicking a few nice points. Interesting to see Paul O Connor on the bench too. We need some more forwards to be ready to step in.

So our no 1 objective for this year has been achieved. Personally I couldn't care less about winning the Div 3 league title (although of course it would be nice to do), from here on it I'd like to see us focused on one thing only - beating Armagh in the championship.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on March 17, 2014, 08:07:11 PM
Its bizarre that people wouldn't care about winning the league. Surely winning the league would be a great confidence boost ahead of the championship. Winning the final 2 league games and hopefully the final would be good momentum ahead of the championship and keeps the team focused by winning
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on March 17, 2014, 08:13:45 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on March 17, 2014, 08:07:11 PM
Its bizarre that people wouldn't care about winning the peague. Surely winning the league would be a great confidence boost ahead of the championship. Winning the final 2 league games and hopefully the final would be good momentum ahead of the championship and keeps the team focused by winning

I don't care about it in the same way I don't care about the U21's winning the Hastings cup. It could be a confidence boost or it could make a team thing they are invincible. I'm just saying next priority to me is doing well in Ulster and if I were manager all my efforts from here on in would be towards that. Doesn't mean I wouldn't go out to win the matches just that I'd be working towards something that is many weeks away. Don't see that as bizarre.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on March 17, 2014, 08:22:04 PM
Fair enough.. it would be a long way to start thinking of the Armagh game in late May right now, when there is still 2 rounds of the league and final to play. But just my opinion
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on March 17, 2014, 08:26:47 PM
It would be good to win but the most important thing about the League was to be playing in the higher Division next year. Winning the Cup would be nice but it's not the be all and end all, beating Armagh is the most important thing now for sure.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on March 17, 2014, 08:32:09 PM
Monaghan after winning the Divison 3 title last year went onto win Ulster. Teams that perform well in leagues generally perform well in the championship,  doesn't mean Cavan are going to win Ulster this year, but would be a great boost no doubt
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on March 22, 2014, 11:10:50 PM
Our minors gave Armagh a pasting today 3.8 to 0.6. We were 3.6 to 0.1 up at half time. Ryan Connolly hit 2.2 in the first half. Playing down next weekend.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on March 22, 2014, 11:43:10 PM
3-7 to 0-5 was the score, very poor conditions. Good minor team this year although the Cavan team today was experimental. The side last year was very young, with 3 u16s involved. Down will be a tougher test
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on March 24, 2014, 04:19:37 PM
A real blast from the past.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vDKiNdgTNoU
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Blue in hope on March 24, 2014, 04:35:56 PM
Hear Givney has been dropped  from the Cavan panel due to disciplinary reasons.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on March 24, 2014, 04:51:36 PM
Yeah, a loss , but no player is bigger then the team,
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Western Blue on March 24, 2014, 06:38:59 PM
Are both players off the Panel for the remaining 3 games or are they gone for the season?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on March 24, 2014, 08:46:59 PM
I wouldn't be so sure about these rumours if I were you lads. They sound like a load of bullshit to me. Hyland said in an interview that Givney was injured, he'd hardly make a liar out of himself by kicking someone of the panel. Them two players have been dedicated servants to Cavan and deserve better than lads online whispering like this.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: scoopmine on March 24, 2014, 11:13:05 PM
Until there is a statement from the management I won't speculate lads. The lads involved deserve that much. Promotion achieved, u21s and minors seem to motoring well.  Cavan abu!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on March 24, 2014, 11:27:02 PM
I'm guessing you lads have heard the same " whispers and rumours" over the last couple of weeks that i have. As c4ever said, its certainly not something which should be discussed in the public domain.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: comeysfield on March 25, 2014, 12:10:25 PM
Hopefully all bullshit
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on March 25, 2014, 07:44:00 PM
Who are the lads involved in this alleged issue? Boards.ie has someone saying Keating is involved.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on March 26, 2014, 11:41:36 AM
As BHN says, It is not something for an internet forum.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: whats my name on March 26, 2014, 06:44:26 PM
what issue there was never any issue in the first place where these stupid fabricated rumors started is beyond me. David got a head injury in training and missed two weeks of football due to doctors orders. He was never disciplined or dropped from the panel for anything in his life. all i can say is that he and his family were very upset by the rumors going around the county that were total lies and grade A Bullsh1t now can we please put these rumors to bed once and for all and talk about football
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on March 26, 2014, 07:16:21 PM
The matter has been dealt now and thats the end of it, both players are lucky to be still on the panel. Hopefully they can put in a good performance against Roscommon.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on March 26, 2014, 08:00:30 PM

This is not the place to discuss this,You  probably should edit or delete  that post.
If we want to discuss this, we can all discuss these rumours and stories with each other via private messaging to our hearts content.



Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on March 26, 2014, 08:30:40 PM
That aimed at me Itchy?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on March 26, 2014, 08:34:18 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on March 26, 2014, 08:30:40 PM
That aimed at me Itchy?

No, the post was deleted thankully.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on March 26, 2014, 08:59:45 PM
For the good of the county team and everyone involved keep these rumours away from the board.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Captain Obvious on March 26, 2014, 09:02:15 PM
Any truth to the rumours or all made up nonsense?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on March 26, 2014, 09:11:46 PM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on March 26, 2014, 09:02:15 PM
Any truth to the rumours or all made up nonsense?

Givneys cousin says it's made up an Rodney thinks otherwise.

It's hard to know what's going on.

If Givney is not on panel Saturday night it will tell a story.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on March 26, 2014, 09:21:27 PM
Thanks for speaking for me tommy, it probaly is all nonsense.... now move on
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Captain Obvious on March 26, 2014, 10:13:16 PM
Quote from: tommysmith on March 26, 2014, 09:11:46 PM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on March 26, 2014, 09:02:15 PM
Any truth to the rumours or all made up nonsense?

Givneys cousin says it's made up an Rodney thinks otherwise.

It's hard to know what's going on.

If Givney is not on panel Saturday night it will tell a story.

Givneys cousin a better source. Cavan have promotion secured players will be rested Saturday night. 
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on March 26, 2014, 10:43:06 PM
So U21 game against Monaghan has been moved to Armagh instead of Enniskillen. Apparently Monaghan wanted it changed. Means I cannot attend now anyway.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on March 26, 2014, 10:47:39 PM
Monaghan must be wary of cavans good record under age in Brewster. We beat Down last year in Armagh so no fear


Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on March 26, 2014, 11:41:03 PM
Why drag the game to the Gaelic Grounds? What Monaghan want shouldn't come into it really, the ground should be the most accessible neutral ground for both sets of supporters, would that not be Brewster?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on March 26, 2014, 11:44:33 PM
Enniskillen was the obvious venue, have to drive through Monaghan to get to Armagh, but that's the way it is. Have to beat up there - Athletic grounds..
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: comeysfield on March 28, 2014, 07:10:39 PM
The Drive home will be great keep the Faith
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: comeysfield on April 03, 2014, 10:20:19 AM
Lovely drive home last night. Absolute dire dire stuff but we were stronger maybe should be a little more positive. A win is a win. Fortunate goal  made the difference. Final in Brewster now I assume
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on April 03, 2014, 10:31:41 AM
The Monaghan keeper made a couple of great saves in the first half and the corner back Ryan Wylie made a good block on a Tom Hayes shot so Cavan were creating  goal chances. It was a lucky goal by Argue but probaly deserved. Monaghan didnt create any goal chances, solid defending by the Cavan defence yet again. Tough conditions

Donegal will be seeking revenge from last years final, a few surviors from that team still available, like Paddy McBrearty,
Martin O Reilly, Ryan McHugh, Darrach O Connor, Willie Gillespie, Eoin McHugh.

Conor Madden pulled the hamstring after only coming on as a sub which was disappointing.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on April 06, 2014, 10:03:49 PM
Handy enough spins for next year.


Kildare, Westmeath, Meath, Down, Laois, Galway,  Roscommon
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on April 06, 2014, 10:15:38 PM
Yeah, all fairly handy.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tierworker blue on April 10, 2014, 02:46:55 AM
Unbelievable stuff in Armagh tonight...I don't even remember the journey back to Dublin! (it felt like it only took 15 mins!) What a team...what a comeback...unbelievable stuff!
As a person who has been going to 90% of Cavan matches, for 35ish years now (ok...being brought, for the first few years!) it is an incredible feeling to have won our fourth Ulster title on the trot, especially in such a dramatic way. To say that the atmosphere was electric, is the understatement of the decade, and I havn't experienced the likes of it in a long long time!
When Michael got the 'insurance' point, after Liam's goal, I nearly burst out crying (or so my Mrs. beside me said anyway!) such was the raw emotion. We've been through some tough times over the years folks, and many of us have stuck with it, through thin and thinner, but over the last while, it has been great to finally hold the head high, and be proud of the lads...they are a credit to the county!
I have always worn the blue jersey with pride, no matter what the circumstances. Whether it was on the train back from a drubbing in Cork, soaked to the skin on the terrace in Aughrim, or watching Kildare (and one of our own) wallop us in our back garden, the colours were on show for all to see nonetheless. What's different now, is that it is with an extra pep in our step we throw on the auld Kingspan top, and head out the door!
For years we bemoaned a lack of direction, and betimes effort, but we now have that in spades! Gone are the days when we bowed over to any and everyone without as much as a whimper. Gone are the days when players rolled up to Casement in a car, bleary eyed, and asked the likes of me how they'd get in! Gone are those days, and good riddance...may we never see them again.
Keep up the good work lads...we're behind ye all the way.
To rehash something I posted on a different site around ten years ago, but which has taken until now to bear fruit...the future is indeed blue! An Cabhan Abu!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Old yeller on April 10, 2014, 11:25:09 AM
Four in a row, what an achievement! The character shown by the players was unbelievable.  At one stage we looked beaten, but they never gave up. As Tierworker Blue said, the emotions were running very high. This lads have no fear, and rightly so. The last team to win 4 in a row was Tyrone, winning their 4th in 2003. It definitely bodes well for the future. We need to take it to the next level now, get back to Croker and win the bloody thing!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: comeysfield on April 10, 2014, 04:18:51 PM
It is amazing stuff that we are where we are. The thing is we now are expecting to win though I am not sure about the Dubs games. The only cautionary bit I thought it amazing that we do not have a free taker at U21 that can kick a ball over from 35 Yards out. Also we had nobody to take a left sided kick surely the dubs will push us that side. Also the number of hits and tackles going in lads will be in bits after that. McBrearty if I was from Donegal to me just did not seem all that interested at times. Joe Dillion even though he was getting the same abuse just kept showing and showing so that in itself takes Heart. It was a real display of courage and if you keep going you get the rewards
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BigMac on April 11, 2014, 11:18:23 AM
Where is the sense in bringing Dublin and Cavan to Portlaoise? This game should have been in Navan or at worst Mullingar!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on April 11, 2014, 02:57:07 PM
Quote from: BigMac on April 11, 2014, 11:18:23 AM
Where is the sense in bringing Dublin and Cavan to Portlaoise? This game should have been in Navan or at worst Mullingar!

Its a double header so you have to satisfy Cork and Roscommon too. Pain in the hole for me to go to Portlaoise.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on April 11, 2014, 04:24:31 PM
Heard  young Moynagh's  speech was great. 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pjaWi3pRo0s
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on April 11, 2014, 06:20:35 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on April 11, 2014, 02:57:07 PM
Quote from: BigMac on April 11, 2014, 11:18:23 AM
Where is the sense in bringing Dublin and Cavan to Portlaoise? This game should have been in Navan or at worst Mullingar!

Its a double header so you have to satisfy Cork and Roscommon too. Pain in the hole for me to go to Portlaoise.

Also suits TG4 as they are showing both games live. Was a double header last year in Tullamore , could have had it there instead of Portlaoise.

Good luck to the Minors playing Monaghan at 6.30
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: comeysfield on April 11, 2014, 06:22:38 PM
are the minors playing in breffni could tip in
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on April 11, 2014, 06:24:08 PM
In Clones
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on April 11, 2014, 10:19:18 PM
Minors were beaten by 4/5 points I think by Monaghan.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on April 12, 2014, 11:21:46 AM
Highlights of the Dubs v Meath, Meath had some poor wides and missed a penalty weren't that far off Dublin javascript:itemClicked(3442813372001, 'GAA 2014'); http://www.tg4.ie/ie/player/tg4-player.html

Minor lost by 4, 2-11 to 13
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on April 15, 2014, 08:24:33 AM
Quote from: Denn Forever on April 11, 2014, 04:24:31 PM
Heard  young Moynagh's  speech was great. 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pjaWi3pRo0s

I didn't enjoy that  no passion in it just read from a  page, it was pretty cringy.

Hope he puts a bit more heart into the all ireland speech.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on April 15, 2014, 01:50:16 PM
Quote from: tommysmith on April 15, 2014, 08:24:33 AM
Quote from: Denn Forever on April 11, 2014, 04:24:31 PM
Heard  young Moynagh's  speech was great. 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pjaWi3pRo0s

I didn't enjoy that  no passion in it just read from a  page, it was pretty cringy.

Hope he puts a bit more heart into the all ireland speech.

Your hard to please Tommy. I thought it was excellent. Passion was on the field. He can make a speech full of passion if he lifts the cup in Croker.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Old yeller on April 15, 2014, 07:59:51 PM
I thought it was a bit cringeworthy at times too, still get the hair standing on the back of your neck though!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on April 15, 2014, 10:21:54 PM
It was a speech for a dinner dance not one for after a game which should be a lot shorter! Still, he puts in enough effort to say whatever the hell he likes..
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on April 15, 2014, 10:31:04 PM
No passion? Shoud he be roaring into it like a lunactic and not having a clue what he is saying. Was a good speech, bit long but nothing wrong with it
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on April 15, 2014, 11:31:57 PM
Watching the highlights of the final on TG4 player, lot of steps from Dillon for the goal but it looked like the Donegal man tried to trip him, had he went to ground it would have been a penalty and black card. But what an 80's style celebration. Must have learned it from Joe Snr!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on April 15, 2014, 11:37:10 PM
Lads lads. Why argue with each other when you can rise the Roscommon boys instead? I enjoyed the speech, thought he did very well and he didn't swear unlike Gearoid a few years ago.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on April 15, 2014, 11:38:27 PM
Barry Reilly's speech in 2012. Best I've heard. He even remembered Hyland's name, unlike Gearoid a few years ago.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on April 17, 2014, 09:01:15 PM
Anyone know why a man that has played with Drung all his life and still lives in Drung is some how now playing with Ballybay in Monaghan?

Heard it today and couldn't figure it out, Drung will struggle this year with out him ( C Galligan)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on April 17, 2014, 09:54:33 PM
Strange enough move, Balybay are a Senior team if it was for football reasons.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Duckquay on April 17, 2014, 10:42:22 PM
Quote from: Itchy on April 15, 2014, 11:37:10 PM
Lads lads. Why argue with each other when you can rise the Roscommon boys instead? I enjoyed the speech, thought he did very well and he didn't swear unlike Gearoid a few years ago.

I couldn't get over Gearoid reading those swear words off his sheet of paper.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on April 18, 2014, 11:02:39 AM
Quote from: rodney trotter on April 17, 2014, 09:54:33 PM
Strange enough move, Balybay are a Senior team if it was for football reasons.

Even if it was for Football reasons how did he manage to get the Transfer its not like it could be legal.

I feel that the GAA is heading to a bad place with doing deals with sky and allowing players move clubs so easily.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on April 18, 2014, 11:19:47 AM
I think the way it works is that if the clubs or county boards dont care about a player moving then he can pretty well do what he wants as it is up to one of them to refuse to sign it off or object. Maybe Drung decided they had enough of him or maybe they were happy they got a lot of years out of him and didnt want to part on bad terms.

To have a proper system you would really need some sort of all ireland transfer regulator that inspects all transfers, it would be a full time job for someone.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on April 18, 2014, 04:16:50 PM
Yeah I think you could be right Myles maybe the club wanted rid it must have been mutal anyway.

He was a good club footballer but never did anything at county level was on of the first that Terry Hyland got rid off when he took over.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on April 18, 2014, 05:46:24 PM
Cavan playing in the white jersey tmorrow, Dublin in black.

Galligan was a committed player but never really shone at senior for Cavan. Was good under age, one of the better players on the u21 team  beaten by Down after et in 05 Ulster final
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Mrs mills on April 20, 2014, 09:34:27 AM
So, what can we do on the discussion boards to check the validity of the Sunday Times story that O'Neills has been outsourcing some of its manufacturing to Bangladesh and to implore the GAA to do something about it if true?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: comeysfield on April 22, 2014, 11:38:34 AM
A player can move counties/country (to another club in another county) without approval/sign off of Club. It is an automatic process that goes through Croke Park takes roughly 4 weeks not a fecking thing anybody can do about it. If player can prove he has moved. This has been the way in the GAA for decades. It is when you move within the county that it is a difficulty.

We played Drung this year in the real League and they were damn impressive played a running game and they will not struggle that much without there big man. The interesting thing is that he had a very good year for Drung last year and if they had a scoring forward would have made an intermediate final

So Cillian Clarke and Michael Argue are 2 huge positives out of the weekend. Is the Cavan defense plan now starting to get easy to play against. How do we all feel about Roscommon if they just run at us
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on April 22, 2014, 12:10:58 PM
Quote from: comeysfield on April 22, 2014, 11:38:34 AM

So Cillian Clarke and Michael Argue are 2 huge positives out of the weekend. Is the Cavan defense plan now starting to get easy to play against. How do we all feel about Roscommon if they just run at us

I always though that the defensive plan would not be as effective against the better teams we will have to be scoring 15 or 16 points a game to have a chance against them

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on April 22, 2014, 12:50:24 PM
Losing Moynagh was a 4 point swing against us. He was putting brilliant balls in, we hadn't that quality of passing when he went off. Still, only 1 point and I think the Dubs will win it out as Ros are very open in the backs and they will find it very hard to stop the pace Dublin have. Of course Ros are very good up front so there could be big scores put up.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on April 22, 2014, 12:56:14 PM
Cavan have been creating plenty of chances throughout the League just not been clinical enough. Hopefully now with Keating having a few weeks training under his belt he will be back to his best on Saturday
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on April 22, 2014, 06:21:01 PM
Even at his best Keating is far from clinical..
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on April 22, 2014, 06:25:33 PM
Not many players are Colm Cooper westside, Keating was in very good form earlier this year before his hamstring flared. He still misses a few but is Cavan best forward
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on April 23, 2014, 03:40:35 AM
Without wanting to take anything away from Cavan's recent return to respectability - about which we all remain proud and delighted, and rightly so -  should we now pose the question about whether the tactics that are taking us so far in Ulster are suited to the different challenges that lie beyond its borders?

I used to dread playing other Ulster sides and longed to play some of the less stifling, negative sides from elsewhere but now while I feel we are well equipped to match any team in Ulster on our day, do we need to broaden our horizons and change it up against other teams?

I'm not stating a strong opinion here, and I'm mindful we haven't been far away at all against Cork and Dublin in the last two campaigns, I'm mostly just musing about the fact that we've won just one All-Ireland U21 semi out of four bites at the cherry, and wondering if it indicates that the defensive game plan that has cracked the Ulster code (at least underage) needs more ambition and tweaking beyond those tempestuous confines?

Would we have the personnel to implement a different gameplan if required? Are we one dimensional? I'm just interested in opinions.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: comeysfield on April 23, 2014, 10:55:36 AM
At the weekend I thing it showed we had a limited panel. Put then to turn that around we are building a panel at senior. At senior I think we are starting to get a mix of players where we could start to be a bit adventurous. We still lack out and out natural scoring forwards, Hayes will be a help but possibly early yet. Joe Dillions temperment will have to see how that goes. Chris Conroy from last year's batch may help but is not an out an out scoring forward. SO it looks like this yera we will still need Dunne and Keating to provide 10 scores and then then see what mixture will get us those ovther 4 ~ 7 to scores. That will still leave us averaging around anywhere between 10 and 17 scores. SO the defensive system may well mean we could still fail early on in Ulster put we are respectable and lads are working and playing for each other. Two years ago we were out and out shite that you could not watch. Now the danger is we play such defensive shite that you would not watch us. Right now though we are building building so I would take that we probably need another year or so. To get all the slots filled out we are missing a real centre forward and maybe Half forward that can provide 4 or 5 scores. Argue and McKiernan will help, Givney needs to also start to really play football and see is his place Midfield or as a Full forward where he is a real worker and provider for the team   . This year the objective would have been to get promotion in the league and see if we can get a run in Ulster. Getting a win in Armagh will be a challenge but staying with the defensive system though hard to watch is probably the right choice.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Old yeller on April 23, 2014, 07:40:09 PM
Quote from: cavanmaniac on April 23, 2014, 03:40:35 AM
Without wanting to take anything away from Cavan's recent return to respectability - about which we all remain proud and delighted, and rightly so -  should we now pose the question about whether the tactics that are taking us so far in Ulster are suited to the different challenges that lie beyond its borders?

I used to dread playing other Ulster sides and longed to play some of the less stifling, negative sides from elsewhere but now while I feel we are well equipped to match any team in Ulster on our day, do we need to broaden our horizons and change it up against other teams?

I'm not stating a strong opinion here, and I'm mindful we haven't been far away at all against Cork and Dublin in the last two campaigns, I'm mostly just musing about the fact that we've won just one All-Ireland U21 semi out of four bites at the cherry, and wondering if it indicates that the defensive game plan that has cracked the Ulster code (at least underage) needs more ambition and tweaking beyond those tempestuous confines?

Would we have the personnel to implement a different gameplan if required? Are we one dimensional? I'm just interested in opinions.
I think its time we spread our wings a little bit and play a little bit more adventurously. The system that Hyland put in place when he first came in has served us very well. Its brought a lot of success at underage and has given us all a huge boost in morale which was badly needed. The problem with it is that when it comes to really tight games, like the last two semi's, it is very hard to get over the line due to our own low scoring. We may not have the forwards that Dublin and Roscommon have at U21 but we have a great forward lines in the senior team and dont need to be quite so defensive. We came from the worst period of Cavn football ever tonone of  the most successful at underage. That is thanks to a great crop of young players who were extremely well drilled and played a system that suited them. I think both the Cork and Dublin games were there for the taking if we had thrown caution to the wind in the last ten minutes and attacked like f**k! We need to change things up a bit because teams will suss it out soon enough and when push comes to shove we need to know how to attack with gusto. It was very hard to watch last Saturday at times in the second half when we reached the 45 yard line and seemed to hit an invisible wall that nobody knew how to get past. The slow patient build up is great but it allows the opposition time to get men back and totally nullifies our attacking options at times.
I would put Givney in at full forward so that we can mix it up with the odd high ball in to him. He can
field the ball well and knows where the posts are. Keating is also well capable of winning his own ball. Hes as strong as a bull too! The defensive style has served its purpose and im sure Terry and co are well aware of the faults in it and will tweak it to suit.
The mentality among both players and fans has changed, we know how to win again
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on April 24, 2014, 09:39:34 AM
Peter Donnelly is the main reason Cavan are set up very defensive. Involved with u21s and Seniors. Its made Cavan very hard to break down but less focus is given to attack.  Cavan always played good open football but probaly to naive in defence and conceded pldnty of scores.

Cork u21 game last was similar to Dublin this year sat back when we should have been going more direct. Hopefully the Seniors can get past roscommon on Saturday, important for the team to get some silverware even if its only Division 3 title. Lot of players have under age titles,  nothing won at Senior.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: comeysfield on April 24, 2014, 11:57:08 AM
We just need to stay calm we have come a long way in the last couple of years. If we keep building building it will come we could still have a couple of speed bumps. We could loose to Armagh, we could get opened up by Roscommon. I think neither will happen but either way it will not be a disaster. That we keep making progress is the important piece.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: scoopmine on April 24, 2014, 05:55:09 PM
Hearing reports of Givney moving to Ballymun Kickhams. Same club as Micheal Brady moved to last year. Big blow for his club if true.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on April 24, 2014, 06:26:40 PM
Quote from: scoopmine on April 24, 2014, 05:55:09 PM
Hearing reports of Givney moving to Ballymun Kickhams. Same club as Micheal Brady moved to last year. Big blow for his club if true.

No way!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: scoopmine on April 24, 2014, 06:53:05 PM
Nothing confirmed now just talk. 
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on April 24, 2014, 11:43:29 PM
C Gilsenan

J Hayes
R Dunne
F Flanagan

J McEnroe
A Clarke
D O'Reilly

G McKiernan
K Brady

C Mackey
N McDermott
M Reilly

J Brady
M Dunne
E Keating


Good to see Jack Brady in from the start after his injury problems. Obviouslly going well in training to be selected. Played mainly in the half forward line last year with both the u21s and Seniors, but is a lot better inside. Fairly strong team even without the U21's starting.

Niall Murray, Phil Tinnelly, Michael Lyng all put in good performancs against Limerick and would have been unlucky to miss out, Shows the strength of the panel
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on April 24, 2014, 11:51:46 PM
No Givney? That's surely the biggest ommission.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on April 24, 2014, 11:53:31 PM
His form wasn't fantastic
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on April 24, 2014, 11:56:31 PM
Givney needs to up his game to make this team I think. Would no longer consider him an automatic starter.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on April 25, 2014, 08:23:27 AM
Maybe he is still getting punished.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: comeysfield on April 25, 2014, 10:31:18 AM
Mr Givney form is just rotten at the moment both club and county
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on April 25, 2014, 05:41:51 PM
Is tomorrow night's team a stronger team than the one that started against Kerry in the Championship last year? I think it might be.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on April 26, 2014, 10:13:22 AM
Team v Kerry

Cavan: A O'Mara, T Corr, R Dunne, K Clarke, J McLoughlin, A Clarke, R Flanagan, D O'Reilly, D Givney (0-1), C Mackey (0-1), D McVeety, F Flanagan, M Reilly (0-1 '45), M Dunne (0-1), E Keating (0-2, 0-2f).
Subs: N McDermott (0-3, 0-2f) for R Flanagan (34), M Argue for T Corr (44), J Brady for M Dunne (50), J McEnroe for D Givney (58), K Tierney for E Keating (70).

Team today

C Gilsenan; J Hayes, R Dunne, F Flanagan; J McEnroe, A Clarke, D O'Reilly; G McKiernan, K Brady; C Mackey, N McDermott, M Reilly; J Brady, M Dunne, E Keating.


Much of a muchness. No Killian Clarke but we have Gearoid. It all depends on lads form.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on April 27, 2014, 03:19:34 PM
Disappointing evening yesterday and once again our inability to get the vital scores when the game is in the melting pot cost us. I thought Alan Clarke and Killian Brady looked out of their depth, useful lads in a dogfight but limited technically. Jack Brady doesn't seem to have the pace or power required. As for the inside men well I thought Dunne wasn't as bad as people are saying, on another day he could have kicked 1-3 or 1-4. Keating showed the very worst of his game, selfish in possession, slowing down the play, turning like a bus. I said it after last year's campaign, himself along with Givney may not good enough, the problem being that we have replacements for Givney but no viable replacement for Keating.

On the plus side I thought Niall McDermott did very well, he seems to really shine when he gets to Croker. Martin Reilly and Mackey were very good too. I love the buzz whenever Mackey gets the ball. Gearoid had a storming first 20 but went out of it then. It has to be remembered that he was out for almost a year though.

Going forward I think Argue needs to be starting to give us another option at midfield for kickouts. Killian Clarke needs to be in the full back line. We don't seem to have the personnel to ask for much more than what we're doing up front so we need to be more competitive in the middle of the field.
The Armagh game will be extremely tough and the blueprint for beating us has been made very clear.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Duckquay on April 27, 2014, 06:07:22 PM
Westside I'm not sure how you can differentiate between the performances of Keating and Dunne as strongly as you do, both had off days but the difference being Keating can win dirty ball and Dunne can't. Both players were equally as bad as each other in terms of shot selection and wides. When Keating leaves the shooting boots at home at least he will win a 50/50 ball. Some of the positions he was shooting from yesterday were crazy though. Killian Brady looked out of his depth as a midfielder...to judge him based on yesterday is wrong  as he belongs in the full back line at county level. Alan Clarke simply isn't mobile enough nor good enough on the ball to take the game to the opposition or provide adequate cover at the back. Agree re argue he has to be in midfield. The options in personnel are there for the necessary changes, better our shortcomings are flagged up now rather than June 9th.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on April 27, 2014, 06:27:35 PM
Keating is a great ball winner, and was a great outlet for Dunne last year. He has lots of ability, just erratic with the shooting and sometimes knowing when to give a pass. That was jack Brady first inter County start of the year yesterday after injury, wouldn't be writing him off that quick. A lot of club football coming up so that will bring on his fitness. Argue and Clarke will be in the side come championship, killian Brady is a back and is suited there, wouldn't say he is out of depth based on yesterday. Kevin Tierney has been playing well with his club, might be in the reckoning come chqmpionship as an option in the FF line.

Some of the other U21s, like Conor Moynagh, will probaly be drafted onto the panel before the championship - which will increase the options
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on April 27, 2014, 09:24:22 PM
Very disappointing display from Cavan. So many old failing showing their heads again, it is funny but it was almost like we have gone back a bit, even though we have won all our games prior to this one. The only positive for me is that it laid bear some of our problems and gives us 5 weeks to correct it. I think the backs need some tweaking despite our mostly good displays. McEnroe has been displaying this sort of lazy show boating style and got turned over numerous times because of it. We also don't have any creativity in the half back line to put early ball in. Playing Gunner at midfield is not a long term strategy and for the life of me I cant understand why management are doing it. Its not fair on Killian who is a good back but he will never make midfield his position. Clearly they want a defensive option in there to allow Gearoid to bomb forward but Killian Clarke is a better option for that role. The forward play was not good. I thought Mackey was very poor, yes he raised it for two periods of 5 minutes but in between we got show boating and some extremely sloppy passes and a couple of hospital passes. McDermott was OK but missed some easy chances and Martin Reilly was probably our best player. The bis problems were in the forwards. Dunne and Keating were terrible, Dunne had a mare. Dunnes big problem is that he has no power to beat a man so he tends to bring it wide and rely on incredible accuracy to get it over the bar. The problem is if he is off his game or theres a tricky wind then Dunne offers very little. Keating is just too damn selfish on the ball, doesnt get his head up and has can have poor shot selection. The big problem is there are no real other options for us in the FF line. With this in mind I think we need to have a very good spread of scorers across the team. Here is what I would do for Armagh...7

Gilsenan - just about, he needs to improve his kick outs.
Fergal Flanagan - tight and can take a score.
R Dunne - Decent but no other option either
Hayes - solid
Moynagh - Need a ball player in the backs and can kick a score
Clarke - poor enough last day but is a leader
Damien Reilly - Can take a score, big, can field a high ball.
Killian Clarke - Defensive midfield
Gearoid - Attacking midifeld, good for a few points.
Argue - An option on kick outs, good for a few points, strong.
McDermott - Free taker, ball winner
Martin Reilly - Hard worker, good for a few points.
Mackey - free role out the field
Keating - Needs to make the right decisiion but can be unmarkable
Dunne - Free taker, on form could get you 4/5 points a game. Hopefully his form will return.

Potential change to the above would be to put Mackey on the 40 and Givney inside but no Mcdermot means no left footed free taker. I'd feel a lot happier if that team was starting against Armagh.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on April 27, 2014, 09:32:19 PM
Strong enough side. David Givney is an option inside oo, his form hasn't been good of late but if he get the head right and works hard he will be close enough to the side. A lot of options in midfield now so not needed there as such. Gilsenan is probaly under pressure with the kickouts.  Farrelly probaly a better all round keeper.Would leave McEnroe there,

The reason for playing Killian Brady in midfield is because he is a defensive player,. Played there with his club before. Mossy Corr was full back when he first got on the Cavan team and then was moved to midfield. Argue, McKiernan, and Givney are all attacking players and aren't as good with the defensive side of their game. Killian Clarke is probaly a better option as defensive player alongside Mckiernan as you said.

Alan Clarke might not have had his best game yesterday but is usually a very solid player and would expect him to be there come championship. Keating when on song is unmarkable as was evidenet from earlier in the year McKenna Cup and Railway Cup. Needs to find that confidence again, he was going well before he pulled the hamstring which knocked his form.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on April 27, 2014, 09:39:11 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on April 27, 2014, 09:24:22 PM
I will nit pick with the team you selected if you dont mind.

Gilsenan - just about, he needs to improve his kick outs.( Kickouts wont improve  I would throw Farrelly in  great kickout)
Fergal Flanagan - tight and can take a score.
R Dunne - Decent but no other option either
Hayes - solid
Moynagh - Need a ball player in the backs and can kick a score ( not sure if he is the man his temperament is questionable) K Clarke
Clarke - poor enough last day but is a leader ( Should not be near team not good enough a footballer to play this role) Mcenroe
Damien Reilly - Can take a score, big, can field a high ball.
Killian Clarke - Defensive midfield ( [ ( do we need defensive midfielders I would play him wing back and tell the midfielders to mark their men) Argue
Gearoid - Attacking midifeld, good for a few points.
Argue - An option on kick outs, good for a few points, strong. ( Lyng can play good ball to the forwards)
McDermott - Free taker, ball winner
Martin Reilly - Hard worker, good for a few points.
Mackey - free role out the field
Keating - Needs to make the right decisiion but can be unmarkable
Dunne - Free taker, on form could get you 4/5 points a game. Hopefully his form will return. Johnston stronger than Dunne and more accurate free taker - only joking but we are really stuck for forwards.


Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on April 27, 2014, 10:31:06 PM
Cavan play Galway next week in a challange game in Killygarry, would be a good time look at other alternatives in nets in that game. Gilsenan is  error prone, both with the kick outs and concentration during the game. Farrelly was solid enough for the u21s and is probaly worth a run.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on April 27, 2014, 11:03:54 PM
Quote from: tommysmith on April 27, 2014, 09:39:11 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on April 27, 2014, 09:24:22 PM
I will nit pick with the team you selected if you dont mind.

Gilsenan - just about, he needs to improve his kick outs.( Kickouts wont improve  I would throw Farrelly in  great kickout)
Fergal Flanagan - tight and can take a score.
R Dunne - Decent but no other option either
Hayes - solid
Moynagh - Need a ball player in the backs and can kick a score ( not sure if he is the man his temperament is questionable) K Clarke
Clarke - poor enough last day but is a leader ( Should not be near team not good enough a footballer to play this role) Mcenroe
Damien Reilly - Can take a score, big, can field a high ball.
Killian Clarke - Defensive midfield ( [ ( do we need defensive midfielders I would play him wing back and tell the midfielders to mark their men) Argue
Gearoid - Attacking midifeld, good for a few points.
Argue - An option on kick outs, good for a few points, strong. ( Lyng can play good ball to the forwards)
McDermott - Free taker, ball winner
Martin Reilly - Hard worker, good for a few points.
Mackey - free role out the field
Keating - Needs to make the right decisiion but can be unmarkable
Dunne - Free taker, on form could get you 4/5 points a game. Hopefully his form will return. Johnston stronger than Dunne and more accurate free taker - only joking but we are really stuck for forwards.



Of course I dont mind Tommy!

However, In my opinion when you have Gearoid in Ctr Field you need a tracking midfield with him as Gearoid does not track back. Now you could argue that he should but in all the years I've watched him he just doesn't have that in his arsenal. Clarke could do that job, maybe even Corr if he is back in there. Don't agree on Clarke. He is solid and has done well in most games, had a bad day at the office on Saturday. Thats why I think Moynagh is an option, he is an all round footballer and could give us something in the half back line thats been missing. As for Johnston, more chance of me starting against Armagh.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on April 28, 2014, 08:30:20 AM
QuoteOf course I dont mind Tommy!

However, In my opinion when you have Gearoid in Ctr Field you need a tracking midfield with him as Gearoid does not track back. Now you could argue that he should but in all the years I've watched him he just doesn't have that in his arsenal. Clarke could do that job, maybe even Corr if he is back in there. Don't agree on Clarke. He is solid and has done well in most games, had a bad day at the office on Saturday. Thats why I think Moynagh is an option, he is an all round footballer and could give us something in the half back line that's been missing. As for Johnston, more chance of me starting against Armagh.

If he does not track back who is going to mark his man, the tracking midfielder cannot mark two men, if he is not going to track back he should not be in midfield or the half forward line either as they attack as much as anyone else. We are at a serious disadvantage when we do not have possession, we need to find lads to play midfield who are athletes and will run all day.

I wouldn't have Clarke on the team not good enough, he does not mark anyone and looks better in some games as he gets on alot of ball his passing and kicking is poor. Moynagh would be better option here but he can be inclined to slow game down and wants to solo around men coming to tackle him which is deadly dangerous. I think we need to move the ball faster our of the backs.

Winning 4 Ulsters at U21 could be fruitless at Senior level as we don't have the midfielders or forwards to compete with the good teams in the modern games.  Monaghan seem to be a good bit ahead of us with little underage success which is worrying.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on April 28, 2014, 02:18:36 PM
Will see  how far Monaghan will be ahead when a few of the veterans retire. Paul Finlay, Vinnie Corey, Dessie Mone, Eoin lennon, Dick Clerkin , dont have many more years left in them.

Cavan are making progress, regardless of Saturday
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on April 28, 2014, 03:25:08 PM
Quote from: tommysmith on April 28, 2014, 08:30:20 AM
QuoteOf course I dont mind Tommy!

However, In my opinion when you have Gearoid in Ctr Field you need a tracking midfield with him as Gearoid does not track back. Now you could argue that he should but in all the years I've watched him he just doesn't have that in his arsenal. Clarke could do that job, maybe even Corr if he is back in there. Don't agree on Clarke. He is solid and has done well in most games, had a bad day at the office on Saturday. Thats why I think Moynagh is an option, he is an all round footballer and could give us something in the half back line that's been missing. As for Johnston, more chance of me starting against Armagh.

If he does not track back who is going to mark his man, the tracking midfielder cannot mark two men, if he is not going to track back he should not be in midfield or the half forward line either as they attack as much as anyone else. We are at a serious disadvantage when we do not have possession, we need to find lads to play midfield who are athletes and will run all day.

I wouldn't have Clarke on the team not good enough, he does not mark anyone and looks better in some games as he gets on alot of ball his passing and kicking is poor. Moynagh would be better option here but he can be inclined to slow game down and wants to solo around men coming to tackle him which is deadly dangerous. I think we need to move the ball faster our of the backs.

Winning 4 Ulsters at U21 could be fruitless at Senior level as we don't have the midfielders or forwards to compete with the good teams in the modern games.  Monaghan seem to be a good bit ahead of us with little underage success which is worrying.

So are you proposing we take Gearoid out of Midfield?

I think you are being very harsh on Clarke, he played many fine games last year for us including playing a big part in bottling up Jamie Clarke against Armagh.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on April 28, 2014, 03:41:26 PM
He was excellent last year down in Enniskillen in the Championshio, and along with Rory Dunne was one of Cavan best players against Kerry. Does a solid job nothing flashy. He played very little of the League this year due to a wrist injury in the first round of the league, still only coming back to fitness
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on April 28, 2014, 05:53:19 PM
I think open games in Croker like that will show up players of limited ability. On Saturday Killian Brady and Alan Clarke were both shown up, James McEnroe to a lesser extent. However Alan Clarke and McEnroe are both very useful in the majority of games, looking long term they may want to be replaced if we start to open up a bit more but for now they aren't bad lads to have in there. Clarke is a leader and tough as teak, if Moynagh can overcome the constant injuries and mature his play a bit he is the obvious successor Clarke's jersey but he's not ready yet.

I think management need to be a bit more willing to take off Keating when he's obviously not performing, it was the same against Kerry last year. We need a plan B in the inside forward line. O'Connor and Tierney perhaps. And looking longer term we need to have a huge focus on developing some ball winning inside forwards and a top quality free taker.

Anyone know if the idea to have 2 points for a free kicked off the ground at underage was introduced?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on April 28, 2014, 05:59:04 PM
Would yot not subsitute Dunne when he wasn't playing well? At least Keating was winning his own ball like he was against Kerry
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: comeysfield on April 28, 2014, 06:22:30 PM
Roscommon scored a fluke going for a point we missed a penalty. That is a five  point turnaround which would have seen us win by 3. Not that simple but you could see us beating those lads 

Maybe we had decided to give Alan Clarke, Keating and Gearoid Game time as they are still on the way back to full fitness. Armagh is the main objective. I think we tried to play a little bit more open we went for the game a bit more and we lost. No big panic the future just might still be blue. Would like to have seen more of Tierney because I thought he deserved a run after the league but there you go
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on April 28, 2014, 06:26:17 PM
I singled out Keating because he was left on until the end against Kerry and Roscommon and contributed very little. Dunne was taken off against Kerry. Winning your own ball isn't much use if you won't lay it off as players break past and you consistently take impossible shots and waste possession. Of course Dunne should be taken off if he's playing poorly. But simply because Keating is strong enough to win himself some possession doesn't mean he's contributing enough to stay on the field. Keating's shot selection is dire, he seems happy to get one point out of every 3 or 4 hail mary shots he takes, salute the crowd and go at it again.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Old yeller on April 28, 2014, 07:14:47 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on April 28, 2014, 03:41:26 PM
He was excellent last year down in Enniskillen in the Championshio, and along with Rory Dunne was one of Cavan best players against Kerry. Does a solid job nothing flashy. He played very little of the League this year due to a wrist injury in the first round of the league, still only coming back to fitness
EVER! Thats his main problem, he does the simple stuff well but never does anything else. Moynagh is a ball player
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Old yeller on April 28, 2014, 07:18:07 PM
Quote from: comeysfield on April 28, 2014, 06:22:30 PM
Roscommon scored a fluke going for a point we missed a penalty. That is a five  point turnaround which would have seen us win by 3. Not that simple but you could see us beating those lads 

Maybe we had decided to give Alan Clarke, Keating and Gearoid Game time as they are still on the way back to full fitness. Armagh is the main objective. I think we tried to play a little bit more open we went for the game a bit more and we lost. No big panic the future just might still be blue. Would like to have seen more of Tierney because I thought he deserved a run after the league but there you go
I agree with ya there, on another day we could have ran away with it. Very little between the two teams, Ros beaten once this year, by Cavan and vice versa
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on April 28, 2014, 07:34:16 PM
Ros goal may have been a fluke but in fairness he should have buried it. Ros were worth their win. Our forward line needs surgery but our options are very limited.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on April 28, 2014, 08:30:13 PM
Quote from: Old yeller on April 28, 2014, 07:14:47 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on April 28, 2014, 03:41:26 PM
He was excellent last year down in Enniskillen in the Championshio, and along with Rory Dunne was one of Cavan best players against Kerry. Does a solid job nothing flashy. He played very little of the League this year due to a wrist injury in the first round of the league, still only coming back to fitness
EVER! Thats his main problem, he does the simple stuff well but never does anything else. Moynagh is a ball player

Moynagh also takes too much out of the ball at times and that is not what you want at Senior level. Maybe stick on the wing where he can look good on the ball
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on April 28, 2014, 09:05:30 PM
I think Moynagh is a class act. I think he would be a serious addition to the senior team. I hope he can get over the ankle injury and Terry gives him a shot.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on April 28, 2014, 09:07:53 PM
He is a very good player, but would leave Clarke at Centre back for now anyways. Didn't have his best game on Saturday but he is only coming back from injury and not at full fitness. 6 weeks until Armagh so he should be in full fitness by then
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on April 28, 2014, 09:41:23 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on April 28, 2014, 03:25:08 PM
Quote from: tommysmith on April 28, 2014, 08:30:20 AM
QuoteOf course I dont mind Tommy!

However, In my opinion when you have Gearoid in Ctr Field you need a tracking midfield with him as Gearoid does not track back. Now you could argue that he should but in all the years I've watched him he just doesn't have that in his arsenal. Clarke could do that job, maybe even Corr if he is back in there. Don't agree on Clarke. He is solid and has done well in most games, had a bad day at the office on Saturday. Thats why I think Moynagh is an option, he is an all round footballer and could give us something in the half back line that's been missing. As for Johnston, more chance of me starting against Armagh.

If he does not track back who is going to mark his man, the tracking midfielder cannot mark two men, if he is not going to track back he should not be in midfield or the half forward line either as they attack as much as anyone else. We are at a serious disadvantage when we do not have possession, we need to find lads to play midfield who are athletes and will run all day.

I wouldn't have Clarke on the team not good enough, he does not mark anyone and looks better in some games as he gets on alot of ball his passing and kicking is poor. Moynagh would be better option here but he can be inclined to slow game down and wants to solo around men coming to tackle him which is deadly dangerous. I think we need to move the ball faster our of the backs.

Winning 4 Ulsters at U21 could be fruitless at Senior level as we don't have the midfielders or forwards to compete with the good teams in the modern games.  Monaghan seem to be a good bit ahead of us with little underage success which is worrying.

So are you proposing we take Gearoid out of Midfield?

I think you are being very harsh on Clarke, he played many fine games last year for us including playing a big part in bottling up Jamie Clarke against Armagh.

No but I don't agree with having to play someone along side him that will be defensive because he doesn't track back doing that puts us on the back foot.

I think i'm right about Clarke but we will know more about him in June/July.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on April 29, 2014, 10:18:17 AM
Quote from: Westside on April 28, 2014, 06:26:17 PM
I singled out Keating because he was left on until the end against Kerry and Roscommon and contributed very little. Dunne was taken off against Kerry. Winning your own ball isn't much use if you won't lay it off as players break past and you consistently take impossible shots and waste possession. Of course Dunne should be taken off if he's playing poorly. But simply because Keating is strong enough to win himself some possession doesn't mean he's contributing enough to stay on the field. Keating's shot selection is dire, he seems happy to get one point out of every 3 or 4 hail mary shots he takes, salute the crowd and go at it again.

Harsh on Keating. Not the finished article by any means but still learning.I remember Dunne saluting the crowd last year against Kerry when Cavan were getting hammered. Only time i rememer keating saluting the crowd was a qualifier game in 2012 in Fermanagh.

Bernard Brogan was  a very greedy player a few years ago and is more of a team player now,, no reason why Keating cant change as he gets older. Keating is still 24, not 25 until the end of the year.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on April 29, 2014, 03:36:33 PM
Keating saluted the crowd against Donegal in the Championship in 2011 after he took McGee for a couple of points at the beginning of the game, did it again against Kildare the following year too, I didn't see the one against Fermanagh but there you go.. His miss against London had all the hallmarks of a man who was wheeling away to celebrate before he had actually put the ball in the net. Dunne is much less of a showman and in general doesn't try to pull off the spectacular as much as Keating. Dunne is (in my opinion at least) a much smarter lad on the field.

Anyway both have their faults but there's no doubt that they're the two best we have for the meantime. Whether they are good enough for us to stay in Division 2 and challenge for Ulster remains to be seen.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on April 29, 2014, 11:21:49 PM
I see over in hoganstand the reaction to our defeat to Roscommon has been to sack the management and bring back Seanie Johnston. Comedy gold. What sort of plonker would support either 6 weeks before the championship?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on April 29, 2014, 11:32:20 PM
Same meltdown when Cavan were beaten by Tyrone in the McKenna Cup final. Its not Professional soccer where you appoint and sack managers because of one or 2 results.

Armagh will be hoping Kernan is fit http://www.hoganstand.com/Cavan/ArticleForm.aspx?ID=215159
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on April 29, 2014, 11:50:03 PM
Does anyone know are the minors playing Armagh the same day as the seniors. I see they hammered Monaghan in the shield final. That should be a good team, I hope they are not let down by poor management.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on April 29, 2014, 11:53:24 PM
No not same day as Seniors, it at end of May - avoid clashing with the LC. Very good Minor team this year,  but its all on day with Minors.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on April 30, 2014, 07:27:26 AM
How would they be poor with a very good St pats and Virginia team. I think it is the strongest minor team since we won it out a few years ago.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on April 30, 2014, 08:54:57 AM
Minors play in Clones at the end of May. Hard to know how strong they'll be. Hammered Monaghan in the shield and scored 5 goals in the process but lost to Down and Monaghan too in previous games. I wouldn't know many of the players out from Connolly and Raythorne. Thomas Galligan scored 3 or 4 of the goals v Monaghan.

I've heard more stories this year about poor treatment of young lads on the panel by management so I'll keep banging the same drum I did last year: Donohoe shouldn't be there.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on April 30, 2014, 09:44:25 AM
I didn't say they would be poor, Minors can be unpredictable so you don't how they perform come championship . They lost to Monaghan and Down with experimental teams. Had a player sent off against Down early in the secomd half,  conceded a late penalty and lost by 3.

12 from last years panel, like Dara Gannon, Pearse Smith, Conor Bradley, Harry O Neill, Mattie Mckenna,Donal Monaghan, Ryan Connolly.,

Tyrone probaly favs for Ulster though with a lot from last year, including Conor McKenna, who played against Cavan this year in the u21 championship.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on April 30, 2014, 12:19:55 PM
Sorry Rodney, totally missed read your post. Too much beer for me last night!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on April 30, 2014, 12:21:24 PM
Not the first time either...
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on May 03, 2014, 04:41:53 PM
We got a look at what would've happened to Cavan if they played open football against Dublin today.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on May 03, 2014, 08:51:43 PM
Cavan's defensive abilities look more impressive after we seen what happened Roscommon today.

Seniors beat Galway in a challenge 2-14 to 1-12. Dunne and Hyland with the goals. Sounded like it was a second string side from Cavan.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: comeysfield on May 08, 2014, 05:11:29 PM
Gearoid McKiernan did not line out for Swad at the weekend anybody know if he is an injury worry
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on May 08, 2014, 06:09:45 PM
Quote from: comeysfield on May 08, 2014, 05:11:29 PM
Gearoid McKiernan did not line out for Swad at the weekend anybody know if he is an injury worry

I think he did
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Duckquay on May 08, 2014, 10:13:45 PM
Gearoid didn't play at the weekend, he had a scan Sunday and is out for two to three weeks with a slight groin tear.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: comeysfield on May 12, 2014, 12:08:16 PM
Have the big man from Mountnugent officially gone to Ballymun
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on May 14, 2014, 04:47:41 PM
Not sure if any of you have read todays celt but it is being reported that Killian Clarke is considering leaving the county panel to  go and play ball in the US. That would be a really big loss. Id be very disappointed if it were to be true but hopefully  they can talk him around. Does it tell us something about the ambition in the team to win Ulster? If he goes I think we should wish him the best though, he has had 3 long seasons playing U21 and senior, a bit of notice would have been helpful I'm sure to Terry and the team.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on May 14, 2014, 04:55:20 PM
There was stories floating around last year too before the championship about players going away. This seems to be true when it's in the Celt, shouldn't have made himself available for the Seniors this year if he was planning to head away. He might stay yet. Played a lot of football over the last few years and probaly wants a break,
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on May 14, 2014, 05:40:41 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on May 14, 2014, 04:55:20 PM
There was stories floating around last year too before the championship about players going away. This seems to be true when it's in the Celt, shouldn't have made himself available for the Seniors this year if he was planning to head away. He might stay yet. Played a lot of football over the last few years and probaly wants a break,
He wanted to go last year but stayed on so it's no surprise if he is going this year.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on May 14, 2014, 05:43:38 PM
Its a surprise he was part of the Senior panel this year at all.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on May 14, 2014, 05:45:42 PM
He didn't play a big part though, will be a miss for championship.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on May 14, 2014, 06:32:32 PM
You can't blame him for making himself available for the panel this year.. He could have made the decision at any stage you can't expect him to not make plans to travel, he's only 21 years old. Best of luck to the lad if he goes, he's been at the heart of a lot of our good days over the last 3 years. Big loss for the team obviously, he is probably the best defender we have and the one who seems to come to the fore when the real pressure is on. Still, there's lots of hungry lads in there mad for a spot on the side so this is their chance.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on May 14, 2014, 06:36:46 PM
It doesn't matter if he is 21 or 31, if he was planning to go to America for the summer he could have just concentrated with the u21s for the year as he wanted to go to America last year. Goodluck to him anyway a great talent and earn a few quid in America for the summer, break might do him good, he had a lot of disappointments with Club , College and County in the last 12 months.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on May 14, 2014, 06:51:35 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on May 14, 2014, 06:36:46 PM
It doesn't matter if he is 21 or 31, if he was planning to go to America for the summer he could have just concentrated with the u21s for the year as he wanted to go to America last year. Goodluck to him anyway a great talent and earn a few quid in America for th summer, break might do him good, he had a lot of disapointments with Club , College and County in the last 12 months.

So you know he made the decision at the start of the year? Quit talking through your arse rodney. Anyone begrudging the lad, regardless of when he made the decision to go, needs a reality check.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on May 14, 2014, 06:55:17 PM
Good man Westside, you are contradicting yourself in 12 months


I wouldn't be overly happy with lads leaving after we were knocked out of Ulster, being realistic a bit of a qualifier run is what this team should be looking to directly after we exit Ulster. This is another situation where it's hard to blame them for wanting to go, it's amateur and you're only young and fit once.. But it's disappointing from a supporters perspective to think that the belief isn't there in some players. All assuming there's any truth to this of course.

If lads have decided to go when we exit the championship completely then good luck to them. If lads have decided to fly out after the 19th regardless then they shouldn't have committed for the year IMO.


And no I'm not begruding him anything , just curious why he opted to play Senior  this YEAR if wanted to go last summer. Goodluck to him
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on May 14, 2014, 07:33:11 PM
Jaysus rodney you have too much time on you hands to be going digging up old posts. Nice to know my words stick with you though. Not sure who this was in relation to leaving for the summer but I don't think it was any of the lads who had just played an U21 Campaign.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on May 14, 2014, 07:37:22 PM
You were pretty sure about it then so I remembered it now. Maybe you were talking out of your arse then.. It was u21 players last year.

Anyway that's that
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on May 14, 2014, 07:47:08 PM
Is there any update since the celt was published. The timing is a bit dodgy, he could have made this decision when u21s were finished and not 3 wks away from Armagh
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on May 14, 2014, 08:12:29 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on May 14, 2014, 07:37:22 PM
You were pretty sure about it then so I remembered it now. Maybe you were talking out of your arse then.. It was u21 players last year.

Anyway that's that

rodney what I said was in relation to a vague rumour that players had flights booked for after the Armagh game last year. No players were specified. Completely different situation than Killian Clarke deciding to go to America for the summer before the Championship starts having had limited involvement with the seniors this year.

Seriously though if you have the time to be trawling through posts to dig that up you might want to consider a better use of your time.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on May 14, 2014, 08:21:56 PM
The rumour was u21 players at the time and they would hav had little involment with the senios last year too, but you seemed to be alamred that i brought it up , well you will get over it,
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on May 15, 2014, 12:14:50 AM
Tommy said that there was a rumour some players already had flights booked to America for after the Armagh game. No mention was made of U21 players at all. Then I responded with what you quoted above. Completely different situation to Clarke leaving before Championship. I'm not alarmed in the slightest. You may have been alarmed seeing as you went to the effort of finding a post from almost a year ago, taking it out of context and saying I was contradicting myself. Enough of the petty back and forth rodney it's boring.

Who do people think will take a place in the side? I suppose McLoughlin is most likely to come in and pick up Clarke again. He hasn't had much match practice though..
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on May 15, 2014, 12:19:05 AM
And Tommy also mentioned today that Clarke planned to go  last year if you had read  that, and i wasn't begruding him anything but you didnt bother reading it right..  It was still a situation where players were possibly going at some stage so it was all relevant

McGloughlin will probaly come in
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: heffo on May 15, 2014, 10:20:15 PM
Alan O'Mara was very good for Plunketts tonight when they beat Crokes..
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on May 15, 2014, 10:42:58 PM
Big win for Plunketts, they went out early last year. Kilmacud were expected to do well this year.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: comeysfield on May 16, 2014, 09:43:35 AM
Does that mean Kilmacud are OUT OUT. Or is there a back door
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on May 16, 2014, 09:47:27 AM
They are out. Bernard Brogan was on fire for Plunketts by all accounts,. They were struggling in the league so it was an even a better result.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on May 17, 2014, 10:41:35 AM
So is there any update on Killian Clarke, is he staying or is he going.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BigMac on May 17, 2014, 09:56:15 PM
Clarke is a good footballer, but it drives me mad when I see our supposed best players upstairs in the imperial smoking fags. I know they are amateurs and everything, but I don't think too many other all star nominated players from the top counties would be smoking. I'm sure Terry doesn't know he's at it, but doing it blatantly obvious in front of anyone who wants to see him in the Imperial. I wish he wouldn't do it. (and yes i was in the smoking area smoking, so I'm a hypocrite - sue me)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: orangeman on May 18, 2014, 12:47:07 AM
Quote from: BigMac on May 17, 2014, 09:56:15 PM
Clarke is a good footballer, but it drives me mad when I see our supposed best players upstairs in the imperial smoking fags. I know they are amateurs and everything, but I don't think too many other all star nominated players from the top counties would be smoking. I'm sure Terry doesn't know he's at it, but doing it blatantly obvious in front of anyone who wants to see him in the Imperial. I wish he wouldn't do it. (and yes i was in the smoking area smoking, so I'm a hypocrite - sue me)

It would be worse if he was having a Big Mac.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on May 18, 2014, 10:13:54 AM
Manys a lad has a few fags on a night out, its a free world after all. It is not effecting his football so why would anyone be concerned. There has been no update since the Celt broke the news even tough we were told a decision would be made quickly. I suppose if he is not at the all star game this weekend then that will tell us.

Louth played a blanket defense yesterday and comfortably beat Westmeath, 2 weeks earlier armagh beat Louth in a challenge by 8 points. I think Armagh will have a plan for us this year. However I think we will do much better in midfield this time (we lost midfield 70:30 last year) so I am still hopeful we can win.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Blue in hope on May 19, 2014, 09:44:31 AM
Dropped in to Terry Coyle yesterday evening to see Ramor play the Gaels. I would have excepted Ramor to give the senior championship a good rattle this year but Gaels gave them a good beating 2-19 to 0-6. Ramor seemed to have all their players togged out but the Gaels were missing alot. They were missing Niall Murray,Niall Smith,Martin Dunne,Michael Lyng,Kevin Meehan,Chesty Reilly,Johnston and Barry Fortune. Paul O Connor put in a great display at full forward scoring at least 1-6 from play.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on May 20, 2014, 09:54:55 PM
Its very quiet around here. Now given that Killian Clarke seems to be gone time to re jig the team...

Gilsenan - just about, he needs to improve his kick outs.
Fergal Flanagan - tight and can take a score.
R Dunne - Decent but no other option either
Hayes - solid
Moynagh - Need a ball player in the backs and can kick a score
Clarke - poor enough last day but is a leader
McEnroe - Good player but needs to stop being so casual on the ball
Damien Reilly - I think we need someone with a defensive game. Also good for a point or two.
Gearoid - Attacking midifeld, good for a few points.
Argue - An option on kick outs, good for a few points, strong.
McDermott - Free taker, ball winner
Martin Reilly - Hard worker, good for a few points.
Mackey - free role out the field
Keating - Needs to make the right decisiion but can be unmarkable
Dunne - Free taker, on form could get you 4/5 points a game. Hopefully his form will return.

If Gearoid isn't fit Givney will go in there I expect. Of course we don't know how well different lads are going in training. Paul O Connor hit 1.-6 for Cavan Gaels at the weekend so who knows who might make a late run into the team.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on May 21, 2014, 09:43:27 PM
Jaysus, there'd be more chat down in the morgue.

Minors are out against Armagh in Clones on Sunday at the ridiculous time of 6pm (how come Armagh don't have home advantage?)! I believe we gave them a good beating in the Ulster league but no doubt things will have changed since then. Its a hard age group to judge but the signs are that this is a very decent Cavan team so hopefully we can overcome this challenge, we need to see an improved set of results at minor to keep the conveyor of players going.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on May 21, 2014, 09:53:10 PM
It's probaly because it's not on before the Senior game on the 8th, as obviously the Leaving Cert will be on then so a neutral venue for both counties,. The Minor game against Antrim in 2011 was in Newry, the Minor Quarter final last year against Fermanagh was in Clones -. Last couple of years Cavan have been in the prelimanary round so Minor & Senior were on same day..

very good Minor team this year. I think if they keep their focus they can win uster but one step at a time
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: comeysfield on May 22, 2014, 02:05:44 PM
Anybody any idea on a team for the minor game
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on May 22, 2014, 06:51:09 PM
I hear the mood within the squad isn't exactly what you'd hope it to be before Championship time. Things seem a bit deflated. Gearoid isn't looking fit, Keating struggling too. They lost fairly convincingly to Longford in a challenge a few weeks ago. Let's hope they can pick it up to beat Armagh but it's not looking very promising at the moment.

Hard to know about the Minors, the only year in the last 10 years I've heard we had a poor team was 2011! They had a fairly mediocre league (then again so did the 2011 team) It's a real pity there's no back door like in the other provinces, seems very unfair.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on May 22, 2014, 08:26:45 PM
Minor League is for experimenting - they hammered Monaghan in the Shield final. I think there is more talent in this team then the 2011 side, 4 or 5 forwards capable of scoring unlike the 2011 team. Hopefully they can perform on Sunday.

Longford were playing in the championship last week so would have close to full strength in that match
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on May 22, 2014, 08:34:48 PM
One thing I'd be worried about is the fact that the Celt is reporting Hyland as saying that the Killian Clarke thing is not decided. Surely Clarke needs to do the right thing and make a quick decision. It can't be healthy for the panel if it is up in the air. Is he training when this is going on? Gearoid being injured has been rumoured for weeks and is a worry, especially with Givneys form not being great. Maybe time for Givney to step up, grab a game by the balls and make it happen. The challenge game wouldn't worry me too much but this Clarke thing does.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on May 22, 2014, 08:36:54 PM
Yes it would be good for the management to know one way or the other, so they could concentrate on picking a side on who is available.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on May 22, 2014, 09:59:47 PM
Someone on Boards.ie said Clarke hasn't trained with Cavan since the league final, how true it is god knows.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on May 22, 2014, 10:08:25 PM
Quote from: tommysmith on May 22, 2014, 09:59:47 PM
Someone on Boards.ie said Clarke hasn't trained with Cavan since the league final, how true it is god knows.

Maybe its a done deal and Terry is just keeping his cards close to his chest.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on May 23, 2014, 02:00:53 AM
Quote from: rodney trotter on May 22, 2014, 08:26:45 PM
Minor League is for experimenting - they hammered Monaghan in the Shield final. I think there is more talent in this team then the 2011 side, 4 or 5 forwards capable of scoring unlike the 2011 team. Hopefully they can perform on Sunday.

Longford were playing in the championship last week so would have close to full strength in that match

Big statement that given the success that 2011 team have gone on to enjoy. I wouldn't be familiar with the Minor side at all. Could you guess a team rodney or at least some of the definite starters?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on May 23, 2014, 09:33:57 AM
I'm comparing the Minor team now to that team then. That team has gone on to more success but some of those players weren't even on the U21 panel this year. One or 2 of those were star players then.
More free scoring forwards like Sean Hendrick, Ryan Connolly, Evan Doughty, James Brady Dara Gannon, Pearse Smith, Brian Magee. A lot of this team is made up of the Virginia and Pats teams of this year, decent options on the bench too.

Thomas Galligan and David Brady Ballyhaise will more then likely be midfield. Anyway Minor teams can be unpredictable but hopefully this team won't show any fear. Tyrone gave Down a hammering last week, they play Monaghan tomorrow before the Senior replay, would expect Tyrone to win that
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on May 23, 2014, 09:03:44 PM
Some guy on hoganstand says Argue, Mackey and Gearoid will not be fit for Armagh. He also says Clarke is going next week. I find it hard to see us beating Armagh with all those missing.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on May 23, 2014, 09:57:30 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on May 23, 2014, 09:33:57 AM
I'm comparing the Minor team now to that team then. That team has gone on to more success but some of those players weren't even on the U21 panel this year. One or 2 of those were star players then.
More free scoring forwards like Sean Hendrick, Ryan Connolly, Evan Doughty, James Brady Dara Gannon, Pearse Smith, Brian Magee. A lot of this team is made up of the Virginia and Pats teams of this year, decent options on the bench too.

Thomas Galligan and David Brady Ballyhaise will more then likely be midfield. Anyway Minor teams can be unpredictable but hopefully this team won't show any fear. Tyrone gave Down a hammering last week, they play Monaghan tomorrow before the Senior replay, would expect Tyrone to win that

First of our underage teams with some real classy forwards. Connolly could be special.
Is Tom Hayes on the senior panel?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on May 24, 2014, 11:49:48 AM
No Hayes is not on the Senior panel .. Farrelly and Moynagh were the new additions from the u21's along with the u21s who were already on the panel.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on May 24, 2014, 10:30:05 PM
How did the all star game go today. Who was playing and who was not?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on May 25, 2014, 09:28:14 PM
Time for the minor management to hit the road. That was like the bad old days only worse. I never saw such a poorly set up and drilled team in Cavan in a long time. No game plan, no fight and no clue on the line. That's a talented squad wasted. One point in the 2nd half and we went about 40 or maybe 50 minutes without a score. Brutal stuff.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on May 26, 2014, 11:49:24 AM
Been there 4 years now so probaly will be the end of the road. Awful second half display. Armagh used the sweeper well, Cavan found it hard to break them down.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: comeysfield on May 26, 2014, 02:28:55 PM
The Brian Sheanon goal chance might have been a turning point. That could have seen us out of sight early in first half. Anybody any idea was SHeanon injured when he was subbed thought he was going well. Also the young lad from Drumlane whose names escapes me surprised he did not take a more central role. Minors are always hard to call, also what exactly is big Dermot's role in the team seemed very involved.

Anybody at the Breffni challenge at the weekend
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on May 26, 2014, 07:13:46 PM
Well so much for the free scoring Minors. 6 points at any level is a woeful return. Tough on the lads to let that be their last taste of Minor football, it's a real pity Ulster don't introduce a back door.
More focus needs to be put on the Minors. Firstly they need to get rid of Gary Donohoe, I've been banging this drum for 3 years now, ask the Belturbet lads and the Ballinamore lads what they thought of him. How he has managed 4 years with Cavan Minors is an absolute mystery to me.
I suppose the real fear is that our "conveyor belt" for the past few years was just down to a chance happening of a few quality players coming together and that we won't have nearly the same level of talent coming from now on.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on May 26, 2014, 07:17:28 PM
McCabe was doing all the roaring like a big ass last night. Not a sound out of Donohoe. Strange set up, need a new management team in there for next year as that was just beyond words yesterday.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on May 26, 2014, 07:23:22 PM
Maybe ask  Tom Reilly why he appointed him. There is good coaches in the County now and a different approach should be looked at next year

There was good talent in that team, maybe a second chance back door system and they wouldn't have been as nervous. Buts that's all ifs and buts

Mccabe was over Gowna  a few years ago and was the exact same, loose canon along the line
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on May 27, 2014, 10:13:27 AM
Confirmed on Gaa.ie that Clarke is going http://t.co/xo5XCjbnO4

Cavan defender Killian Clarke will travel to the USA this summer, depriving the Breffni County of arguably their best defender.


The 21-year-old has established himself as arguably the brightest talent among the many young players who have broken onto the Cavan senior team in recent seasons.


It has been reported for weeks that the Shercock youngster, an All Star nominee in 2013, has been considering travelling to Boston for the summer, having represented Cavan at senior championship, U21 and minor level over the last three summers.

There have been considerable attempts made in recent weeks by Cavan management and players to dissuade Clarke from heading to the USA, but his mind is believed to be made up and he is expected to depart for Boston in the coming days.

Clarke revealed his plans to travel to the USA to Cavan manager Terry Hyland in recent weeks, and Cavan are now planning for their June 8 Ulster quarter-final against Armagh without the talented full-back, who has won an Ulster minor medal with Cavan as well as three Ulster U21 medals.

The 21-year-old has established himself as arguably the brightest talent among the many young players who have broken onto the Cavan senior team in recent seasons.

He is the only Cavan man to start in four of the five victorious Ulster final wins at minor and U21 level that Cavan have enjoyed since 2011, and his outstanding displays last summer in Cavan's run to the All-Ireland quarter-finals saw him pick up an All Star nomination, as well as being named in GAA.ie's 'Team of the Season So Far', which was named ahead of the All-Ireland semi-finals.

However, Clarke's versatility and natural athleticism have made him a much in-demand footballer, and he has had a gruelling schedule over the last three years. His involvement with Cavan minor, U21 and senior teams have seen him represent his county with distinction many times over the past few years.

As well as that, he is a student at the University of Ulster, Jordanstown and he was a part of their team which reached the Sigerson Cup final earlier this season. His club Shercock have also had lengthy campaigns over the last few years, winning the Cavan Junior Football Championship in 2011 and contesting an Intermediate Championship final last year, which they narrowly lost to Killeshandra.

Still just 21, Clarke was a key man on the Cavan U21 team which reached the All-Ireland semi-final earlier this year, narrowly losing to Dublin in a compelling semi-final in Portlaoise last month. His youth means he is likely to have several years of Cavan senior football ahead of him, regardless of his 2014 plans.

Cavan will also be without versatile defender Ronan Flanagan this summer. The Castlerahan man, who has been part of the Cavan senior football panel since the 2006 season, played with Hyland's side during their Division III campaign in the Allianz Football League, but he informed management at the beginning of the season that he planned to travel this summer.

Ahead of the Armagh game in 12 days time, Cavan have an injury concern over midfielder Gearóid McKiernan, who has had a groin injury recently. McKiernan missed last year's championship campaign due to a cruciate knee ligament injury, and while he featured regularly for Cavan in the recent league campaign, this latest injury has curtailed his preparations considerably for the trip to the Athletic Grounds.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: comeysfield on May 29, 2014, 02:35:08 PM
Anybody any ideas on the team or panel for Junior game for tonight versus Wexford
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on June 01, 2014, 02:52:35 PM
Less said about that Minor result the better. Hopefully a good management set up will be put in place. A team made up of some quality players should not be getting bet out the gate like that.

One week to go until Armagh and I see GAA have decreed that Marty Duffy is the man to ref this game. Hopefully he will do better than he did last year. Some interesting news is that Gearoid, Mackey and Keating are just back in training a week following injuries. Hopefully the hard work was done and they will be ok. Rory Dunne and Declan McKiernan doubtful with injuries.

From the recent challenge games (v All Stars & Junior Leinster) I am hearing the Maloney Derham and Paul O Connor are pushing hard. I would not be surprised if Terry changed things a bit from the league final. It will be interesting to see how we set ourselves up and also how Armagh set themselves up given the ridiculous way they played last year and then the famous apology.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on June 02, 2014, 03:47:50 PM
Gary Donohoe is on Brennan and Donohoe's show on Cavantv tonight, hopefully his last act as Minor manager.

As for next weekend well I think expectations have been tempered dramatically given the injury worries and the two losses within a week in April and Clark's subsequent departure for Boston. Going up to Armagh, who will be baying for our blood after last year, we'll have to be very good on the day to get a win.

O'Connor had a fantastic game against Wexford by all accounts and could provide a decent option for the inside forward line from the bench. Armagh will look at the game last year and see that even though their full back line got absolutely annihilated they were still very much in the game with 65 minutes gone. Clarke will be a huge threat, hard to see us keeping him scoreless again. I still think we're a better side than we were at this point last year, the players believe in the system and it's got them to an AIQF, McKenna Cup Final and League Final in the last 12 months.

Anyone know if you'd be safe enough to get a ticket on the day up there?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on June 02, 2014, 03:52:19 PM
Quote from: Westside on June 02, 2014, 03:47:50 PM
Gary Donohoe is on Brennan and Donohoe's show on Cavantv tonight, hopefully his last act as Minor manager.

As for next weekend well I think expectations have been tempered dramatically given the injury worries and the two losses within a week in April and Clark's subsequent departure for Boston. Going up to Armagh, who will be baying for our blood after last year, we'll have to be very good on the day to get a win.

O'Connor had a fantastic game against Wexford by all accounts and could provide a decent option for the inside forward line from the bench. Armagh will look at the game last year and see that even though their full back line got absolutely annihilated they were still very much in the game with 65 minutes gone. Clarke will be a huge threat, hard to see us keeping him scoreless again. I still think we're a better side than we were at this point last year, the players believe in the system and it's got them to an AIQF, McKenna Cup Final and League Final in the last 12 months.

Anyone know if you'd be safe enough to get a ticket on the day up there?

He resigned last Monday... on the show tonight is probaly to chat about the match last week and the past 4 years. He won a Minor title in that period so it wasn't all bad, lost by 2pts in the Minor Semi last year to Monaghan, could possibly have beaten them. This year was a big disappointment as there was good talent in this years Minor team more so then in the past few years.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on June 02, 2014, 04:14:37 PM
Hadn't heard that. Great news for Cavan. He can go back to being a poor club manager. He deserves some credit for the Minor win in 2011 certainly (with one of the best Minor panels in years) but with the benefit of hindsight, was there more in that team than an Ulster Title? I would say so, and certainly more than a dull defeat to Connacht runners up.

Who would be in the running to replace him rodney would you think? Surely we have another in the county in the mould of Peter or Terry.. Does Peter Donnelly have any involvement with the Minor panel?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on June 02, 2014, 04:32:13 PM
Hard to know. Lots of good coaches in the schools at present with Virginia and Pats. They would have to quit that role in order to manage the Co Minor team
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: comeysfield on June 05, 2014, 12:11:47 PM
Conor Gilsenan; Jason McLoughlin, Rory Dunne, Feargal Flanagan; James McEnroe, Alan Clarke (capt), Damien O'Reilly; David Givney, Gearoid McKiernan; Cian Mackey, Niall McDermott, Martin Reilly; Eugene Keating, Martin Dunne, Jack Brady.

The liklihood is that at least 2 of this team will not start due to injury. So I would expect a couple of changes yet !!!

Good to see Jason back at the same time that at least he is considered to fit enough to put on a teamsheet
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on June 05, 2014, 12:21:31 PM
Would be tough on Hayes if he is left out after starting every game this year , McKenna Cup and League. Doubtful if the team will start like that. Dunne and Mackey wouldn't be 100% fit.

Jack Brady has played lots of football with Ramor since the League final and that will have brought on his fitness.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on June 06, 2014, 11:50:52 PM
I took a gander at the Armagh Fans website, the Orchard lads are very confident over there. One or two expecting Armagh to win pulling up. Another reckons it's just a matter of time until this Armagh side come out and blow the opposition away and that could well be this Sunday. There's predictions that Morgan is able to come out well on top against Dunne and Vernon to be well able for Keating. A few taking a more cautious approach but there's a general bullishness in the attitude towards this game from them.

The worries for Sunday for me would be the form of Jack, Keating and Givney. The loss of Mackey. McLoughlin's lack of game time recently before going out to pick up Clarke.
The bonuses would be having Gearoid, Argue as an option from the bench too. The team has matured immeasurably in the last year and we won't show the level of uncertainty we did in the opening round last year I would hope.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on June 07, 2014, 12:10:24 AM
It's a whole new Armagh full back line from last year. Vernon would have been midfield last year only for injury, full back Sunday. Andy Mallon didn't play Co football last year and James Morgan missed the game too with injury. Dunne won't get it easy on Morgan similar player to Colin Walshe,  maybe less cynical.

Plus to have Geaorid back this year. Martin Reilly has been having a good year and hopefully he continues that form into Sunday. I think Keating can do damage on Charlie Vernon, with a good supply of ball.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on June 08, 2014, 09:32:04 AM
Best of luck to the lads this evening. Bit worried about m Dunne if its a dirty wet day, doesn't suit him. Hopefully the lads produce their best display this year and if they do they will win.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on June 08, 2014, 09:38:32 AM
Depends how well he is marked too, wasn't wet against Monaghan last year and he didn't get into the game. Good luck to Cavan
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on June 08, 2014, 10:54:17 AM
I've seen Dunne turn it on on dirty evenings before, give him the right ball and he'll be grand! Best of luck to the lads later.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: hugh the root on June 09, 2014, 10:36:23 AM
It was a disgrace that Armagh employed this tactic to make sure Martin Dunne would play no part in the game. if Grimley gets off with this then the whole thing is a mockery.Its a good job Sky were nt covering it as Pauric Duffys diaspora would have seen first hand the shambles that Gaelic games has turned into!I am not from either county and have no allegiance to Cavan. The Ulster council are only interested in money. This could have developed into a riot yesterday so heads must roll with heavy suspensions the only deterrent.Ciaran Mckeever lead the riot as per footage!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: comeysfield on June 09, 2014, 02:27:52 PM
No naming names as far as I am concerned every player was involved. It really does not matter who started it as it was just stupid. We will get into school ground blame the child who ran away. I know it might seem just a little excessive but if both teams were kicked out on their ear it would send out the right signals. This kind of pathetic shambles has to end. Just a pity we allowed ourselves get dragged into this shite. Incredible toothless performance by us in the first half. How many times did we get turned over the mad thing is that Keating was winning a bit of ball or frees so why not try something. Ran out of counting when we decided to not shoot and then just got bottled up.

Maddening for Club players that weekend games are now Friday and no reserve fixtures have. Do second team players not need football !!!

Anyway will be interesting to see can we get the wheels back on the Blue Wagon against Westmeath and build again. We really really need forwards who will shoot it is the first step to scoring
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: beer baron on June 09, 2014, 03:13:48 PM
Hugh the root if you seen what Martin Dunne did you wouldn't feel much pity for the lad.

Cavan were disgustingly bad yesterday,could've been beat 15 points easily and Armagh are no world beaters. I didn't think i'd see a performance like that for the next 7 or 8 years.

We all know our system at this stage with in general 2 or 3 lads given the ball to score and everyone else that's attacking usually  there to get the ball to them but yesterday was shocking. In the 1st half  i was thinking Gearoid was carrying an injury because he wouldn't shoot at all and him a lad well able to score,Jack too,what ever happened to to the young lad that used to swing points over from all angles? Mc Enroe had a good game i felt but other than that there weren't too may positives to take out. Sorry Mc Loughlin did pretty well too.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on June 09, 2014, 03:19:47 PM
I'm fed up with the Cavan style of play its is way to slow at times yesterday we were breaking foward from the back with the inside forwards making runs and instead of kicking it in to them the ball went sideways or backways and allowed Armagh to set up there defensive wall.

It's pure shite to watch when its done right but when its done badly its f**king desperate to look at.

As a poster above said why are lads who are well able to shoot not having a go.


Why did Mackey not start if he was fit to come on,he should have been starting and get maybe forty or fifty minutes out of him.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on June 09, 2014, 03:26:05 PM
Why did Aaron Kernan not start for Armagh , he wasn't fully fit to start neither was Mackey... Mackey has only trained a couple of times since the League final.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on June 09, 2014, 03:37:51 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on June 09, 2014, 03:26:05 PM
Why did Aaron Kernan not start for Armagh , he wasn't fully fit to start neither was Mackey... Mackey has only trained a couple of times since the League final.

I'm not concerned about Aaon Kernan.

If someone is fit to come on they are fit to start, he did ok in the second half
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on June 09, 2014, 05:02:38 PM
He did ok, still was sluggish and clearly not fully fit
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on June 09, 2014, 10:02:33 PM
Tommy. We have been playing this style of football from U21 to senior for 5 years now and it has served us fairly well. I am not saying I particularly like it but it has been effective to get us this far. I dont think it was our style of play that was our down fall rather our application of the style of play. For example, Armagh played the exact same way, probably even more defensive as they had two sweepers the whole match. However, Armagh applied the game plan much better. They were much more assertive moving forward, stronger running, more agressive in the tackle and just more up for it.

I think we cannot change much this season and we must keep faith with the tactics and go into the backdoor and try and get some momentum. Next year I do think we need to do some work on our forward play and perhaps a specialist forwards coach could help?

For me so much went wrong that it is hard to pin point what started it. I imagine Martin Dunne was probably going to float around the two ball winners inside and feed of them for the scores. When he couldnt start the game plan probably went out the window from the start. What was very poor was our kick out plans. The kicks were either terrible or the runs for the kick outs were easily blocked off. Gearoid looked laboured. Gunner is just not a midfielder. There was zero fight in that area and ultimately we conceded 80% possession in there. Mossy Corr might have knocked a few of them around the place. Very worrying how it all went in there. Credit to Rory Dunne and to McEnroe. They were under constant pressure and stood up and were counted. Jack Brady was very poor and kept bringing the ball into dead ends. When confronted with a blanked defense you need to spread the ball wide. None of our lads did this and indeed the ignored flanagan a few times when he made great over lapping runs. I think we need to freshen the team up for Westmeath. Assuming Dunne is out this is what I think we should do...

Farrelly (Gilsenan did well on shots but kick outs just not good enough)
Hayes
Dunne
McLoughlin
Moynagh
Clarke
Flanagan
Corr
G McKiernan
Argue
Mackey
Martin Reilly
Keating
O Connor
Damien Reilly - 3rd midfielder

Everyone of that team from half back up can kick a score (except for Clarke)





Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on June 09, 2014, 10:20:12 PM
The junior team played the Senior team last Sunday and Enda Reilly gave Hayes a bit of a roasting, that was probaly the reason he didn't start. He had been having a solid year.

Juniors  play Louth in Dundalk on wedneday. Hopefully O Connor continues his good form and surely be in the reckoning for Westmeath. Westmeath is a local derby so that will have the players fired up after the disaster yesterday.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on June 10, 2014, 11:35:36 PM
That Hoganstand is full of the biggest morons I have ever come across. Sack the manager, play attacking football, play other players. All from one defeat. No one is happy but guess what, we are not invincible and in the toughest province we are likely to lose now and again. If you expect non stop wins follow the girls u14 team.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on June 10, 2014, 11:43:26 PM
They will be happy when the management goes so Jim Gavin can take over,
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on June 10, 2014, 11:56:05 PM
One defeat and we have people saying the entire optimism from 5 years of dominating U21 has been washed away.. It's crazy stuff. There are some absolute idiots out there.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on June 11, 2014, 12:24:10 AM
Armagh weren't even set up attacking,.flooded numbers back. They just used the ball better, Kevin Dyas made the difference at centre forward, winning breaks setting up attack.

Cavan base their game on counter attack, Mackey was an obious loss. Hopefully he will be back to fitness for Westmeath.
Paul O Connor probaly wasn't used so he can build up his confidence with the Junior side, hopefully they can reach another Leinster final.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: comeysfield on June 11, 2014, 10:57:42 AM
All ACFL (promotion) games called off this weekend. So sounds like we are either Mentally of Physically brusied
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on June 11, 2014, 11:07:04 AM
Hoganstand is a ridiculous site which seems to have attracted the biggest imbeciles in Cavan to post on it. The fact that the chief imbecile runs moderates the forum is the biggest problem. Its a joke what is been written over there. In one game Hyland has gone from our must successful manager to a clueless.

I assume the fool who runs the site is the same guy posting the motivational stuff on there facebook page? He'd be better off deleting half the threads over there.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Blue in hope on June 11, 2014, 11:26:20 AM
I think Clarke needs to go I would like to see Tinnelly given a chance at half back. He has great speed. When Givney came on the scene a few years ago it was because of his goal scoring feats. I would like to see him in full forward line for Westmeath with Keating and O Connor. Those three would be able to win their own ball but they would need to improve their movement. I do not think Mossy is up to county standard and would put argue in midfield and have Niall  McDermott back in. I thought it was strange to take him off last Sunday. He wasn't the worst on the field by a long shot and with free taker Dunne out and Keating not kicking well he is our only free taker left.

Farrelly (Gilsenan did well on shots but kick outs just not good enough)
Hayes
Dunne
McLoughlin
Moynagh > Tinnelly
Clarke > Moynagh
Flanagan
Corr  >>>> Argue
G McKiernan
Argue >>>>Mc Dermott
Mackey
Martin Reilly
Keating
O Connor
Damien Reilly - >>>> Givney
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on June 11, 2014, 03:01:49 PM
Jaysus lad McDermott was shocking. He is a good lad but was terrible and was turned over 4/5 times on his own. Kicked some brutal ball away too.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Duckquay on June 11, 2014, 08:15:39 PM
Quote from: comeysfield on June 11, 2014, 10:57:42 AM
All ACFL (promotion) games called off this weekend. So sounds like we are either Mentally of Physically brusied

An absolute joke that this is happening. Our game was down for Sunday, changed to Saturday, changed to Friday and now postponed because of the wishes of the county players.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on June 11, 2014, 10:40:06 PM
Juniors easily beat Louth tonight to make Leinster final. Tinnelly got 3 points from half back. Hard to know the standard but surely Hyland should consider some of these lads to freshen up the senior team.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on June 11, 2014, 11:02:06 PM
Tinnelly was half forward not half back, played there against Wexford too. Thats where he plays for the club.


CAVAN: James Farrelly; Fergal Reilly, James Morris 0-1, Damien Barkey; Niall Smith, Barry Doyle, Conor Moynagh; Packie Leddy 0-1, Liam Buchanan 0-3; Philip Tinnelly 0-4, Chris Conroy, Michael Lyng, Paul O'Connor 0-1, David Hyland 0-2, Enda Reilly 0-4. Subs: Thomas Moore 0-1 for P O'Connor, Paul Smith for N Smith, Brian Shankey for L Buchanan, Niall Clerkin for D Barkey, Enda Hession for E Reilly, G Smith for J Morris

Hoganstand has a few of the players scores wrong above

Play Longford in the final 25th Pearse PK

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on June 11, 2014, 11:14:55 PM
According to Cavan Twitter Tinnelly got 3 points, Lyng got 1. No doubt Tinnelly has a great eye for a point. Saw him kick a few mighty ones in the McKenna cup. Anyone know why he has not got a run since then, seems strange that he didnt warrant a few starts in the league.

As for the club games being called off, I can imagine it is a major pain for the club players but I am guessing the senior team has asked for a few clear weeks to prepare to gave the backdoor a proper rattle. On balance I think it might be worth it to try and get it going again although I wouldn't like to see it become a habit as if club is not looked after there will be no senior team  in 10 years.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on June 11, 2014, 11:33:45 PM
He was doing well in the McKenna Cup, there was a few injuries at the time and he got in the team. Was unlucky to lose out after that, made a few sub appearancs in the league, started against Limerick and done well there too.

It's a good competiton to keep lads out of u21 together  for a few games and something to build on even if its only Junior. Other lads like Tinnelly his first year on the Senior panel, he didn't play under age co football.

Louth beat Kildare in the Quarter finals so they wouldn't have been that bad. Obviously out classed on the night.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: comeysfield on June 17, 2014, 10:22:32 AM
All very low profile here any team news at all !!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tierworker blue on June 18, 2014, 12:43:15 AM
Does anyone have an idea yet if the W'meath match will be on the 28th or the 29th, and what time it may be at? I'm trying to organise a few bits and bobs, and could do with some details soonish! It hasn't been officially sorted out yet it seems, so I was wondering if any of y'all are 'in the know?!'
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rossiewanderer on June 18, 2014, 01:16:21 AM
Hopefully this match is not marred by poor sportsmanship and violence.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on June 18, 2014, 07:10:57 AM
Match is on 28th isn't it. I think its just the throw in time that hasn't been confirmed yet.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tierworker blue on June 18, 2014, 02:18:18 PM
Quote from: Itchy on June 18, 2014, 07:10:57 AM
Match is on 28th isn't it. I think its just the throw in time that hasn't been confirmed yet.

Yeah, I was thinking that allright. The gaa website says that that round of qualifiers will be played on the w'end of the 28th/29th, so I'm wondering if they'll throw a curve ball and have it on Sunday!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on June 19, 2014, 12:47:38 AM
It's a massive game for Cavan against Westmeath and I don't think I'm stretching it too far to say that should we turn in a poor performance and lose, we'll really be at a crossroads and although there is still ample raw material to build quickly and go at it again it would represent a big deflation and step backwards.

I've been concerned since the U21 semi and league final loss that we are being 'found out' by other teams to an extent and that our tactics are too one-dimensional, while increased expectancy isn't helping either. Put all this alongside the Armagh display and it would seem to suggest that the team doesn't have the same pep in its step or isn't operating on the same level as last year, almost like we've got that "difficult second album" syndrome that music artists often talk off.

Hopefully a home game against near neighbours, that are no world-beaters themselves at the moment, can see us iron out a few problems and get the show back on the road. Anything less than a decent run in the qualifiers this year will be a step back and will raise a lot of questions I believe.

Not pushing the panic button or anything like it, but I do see this game as pivotal for this season and perhaps Terry's project overall. Even in defeat I don't think there'd be any hasty decisions made by the county board and nor should there be, but it would turn 2015 into a last chance saloon when we all thought, after last year, we'd be right in the mix for an Ulster title at least.

I really hope Armagh was just a blip!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: comeysfield on June 19, 2014, 09:51:16 AM
With Martin Dunne out does this mean that somebody like Enda Reilly will get the "Scoring Forward" job. As Jack Brady refuses to shoot will he get a run. Right now we need a forward to score 3 or 4 from play to compliment Keating  as it is just too easy then to mark Eugene out of the game 
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on June 19, 2014, 10:36:56 AM
Enda Reilly would be worth a go alright., not currently on the panel but the junior final is next Wednesday so that's a chance to impress a few days before the Westmeath game. Blow to lose another player to the US in Dara McVeety,  its the norm for u21s to go away in the summer being students, but another loss to the panel.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: comeysfield on June 23, 2014, 04:55:50 PM
Game Saturday at 3 O'Clock getting a bad feeling about this
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on June 23, 2014, 06:14:17 PM
Hard to believe the bookies have Westmeath at 9/4 for this game. Without Clarke, the two Flanagans, Dunne and perhaps Mackey, I think we'll struggle. I'd like to see an attempt to address some of our problem areas. More directness up front and running at the Westmeath defence. Some players severely out of form need to be dropped from the starting team. The good feeling around the county has been dampened a lot since the U21 Semi Final, a win for the Juniors on Wednesday and another on Saturday evening might pick things up again.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on June 23, 2014, 06:40:26 PM
If Westmeath some type of Form this year then the odds would obviously be shorter, They had a poor League losing 7 games and were beaten at home in the Championship. It will be a tough game all the same, but would expect a reaction from Cavan after the Armagh game. Cavan played some good attacking football in the league final against Roscommon,poor finishing by Dunne and Keating was costly. Armagh were set up very defensive which meant the task was even tougher with no Mackey to break though the tackles and get some quick ball in.
Looks like Mackey will be out again, so someone else will have the play maker role.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Old yeller on June 23, 2014, 07:23:41 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on June 23, 2014, 06:40:26 PM
If Westmeath some type of Form this year then the odds would obviously be shorter, They had a poor League losing 7 games and were beaten at home in the Championship. It will be a tough game all the same, but would expect a reaction from Cavan after the Armagh game. Cavan played some good attacking football in the league final against Roscommon,poor finishing by Dunne and Keating was costly. Armagh were set up very defensive which meant the task was even tougher with no Mackey to break though the tackles and get some quick ball in.
Looks like Mackey will be out again, so someone else will have the play maker role.
Who would you put in instead of Mackey?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on June 23, 2014, 10:04:37 PM
What's the story with Mackey, same injury?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on June 24, 2014, 09:32:40 AM
He has had groin trouble for a while. Lyng could be option to come into the team. TInnelly has playing well in the half forward line for the juniors. Enda Reilly or Paul O Connor decent options to replace Dunne, Keating got alot of critism after the league final because he was a more physical then Martin Dunne, that had nothing to do with Dunne missing straight forward scores in front of the posts.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on June 24, 2014, 11:22:08 AM
Quote from: rodney trotter on June 24, 2014, 09:32:40 AM
Keating got alot of critism after the league final because he was a more physical then Martin Dunne, that had nothing to do with Dunne missing straight forward scores in front of the posts.

Keating got criticised for being physical?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on June 24, 2014, 04:08:19 PM
For being a ball winner and not converting his chances,  whereas Dunne is a lighter build and not as physical so was exempt from critism even though he missed as much as Keating

hear there is a few knocks ahead of the game at the weekend.  Challenge game against Louth last Saturday got a bit physical
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on June 24, 2014, 06:09:50 PM
Keating can win ball but constantly shows that he can't lay off the ball, go past a man, or shoot with the degree of consistency needed at this level for a team playing in the manner we do. Keating has been around quite a while now, he's as good as we have for the moment but is he good enough to be one of the main men in an Ulster challenging side? I don't think so. Personally I think Dunne could be, he's a much smarter footballer and only has played one championship season. He's never going to be the player that you can lump in any sort of ball to and expect him to win possession but he's a much more reliable shooter than Keating.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on June 25, 2014, 04:37:34 PM
Keating scored 5pts off Neil McGee in the Championship 2012 so he can do it in the championship he was only coming back from a hamstring injury befoe the League final.  He was playing excellent earlier in the year in the Mckenna Cup, got an Ulster All star last year like Dunne.  I have more faith in him doing it against the better teams then Martin Dunne.  Both players have their faults hopefully they prove us wrong.
Dunne obviously suspended so he can't prove the doubters wrong this weekend...
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on June 25, 2014, 10:05:55 PM
Leinster junior champions tonight with 1.11 to 1.7 win against Longford. Well done to the lads. Anyone at it that can give me an update on it.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on June 26, 2014, 10:20:59 PM
1 Conor Gilsenan
2 Jason Mac Laughlin
3 Rory Dunne
4 Alan Clarke
5 Joshua Hayes
6 James McEnroe
7 Robert Maloney-Derham
8 Damien O Reilly
9 Gearoid McKiernan
10 Michael Argue
11 Michael Lyng
12 Niall McDermott
13 Jack Brady
14 David Givney
15 Martin Reilly
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tierworker blue on June 26, 2014, 10:22:35 PM
The team was named today (link below)
It'll be the twitter feed for me Because of the delay in confirming the match time, like a lot of other folk, I had to say yes to other plans. Given that they knew about the fixture quite a while ago, it's poor form that they waited so long to arrange it...I know a good few folk who won't make it. It'll be the 1st Champo match that I've missed in about 20 years!

Hyland's management team have made four changes from the side that took the field in the Athletic Grounds. In comes Joshua Hayes who impressed at corner back throughout the Allianz NFL along with Cavan Gaels club men Robert Maloney-Derham and the experienced Michael Lyng. Michael Argue who made his senior debut in last years qualifier also gets the nod having impressed throughout the U-21 campaign. Making way are Feargal Flanagan, Dara McVeety, Killian Brady and Eugene Keating.

Cavan line out as follows:

1 Conor Gilsenan Conchur Mac Giolla Seanáin Seamróga Choill an Chollaigh 2 Jason Mac Laughlin Jason Mac Lochlainn Gaeil Na Sionnáine 3 Rory Dunne Ruarí Ó Duinn Cnoc Rua 4 Alan Clarke Alún Ó Cleirigh Dún-A-Rí 5 Joshua Hayes Joshua Ó hAodha An Muinchille 6 James McEnroe Seamus Mac Conrua Reamor Aontainthe 7 Robert Maloney-Derham Roibeard Ó Maolomhnaighh/Deirm Gael An Cabhán 8 Damien O Reilly Damien Ó Raghallaigh Béal Tairbirt 9 Gearoid McKiernan Gearóid MacTiarnann Muilleann Iarann 10 Michael Argue Michael Ó hÉarga Seamróga Choill an Chollaigh 11 Michael Lyng Michael Ó Loinn Gael An Cabhán 12 Niall McDermott Niall Mac Dhiarmada Béal Átha na nEach 13 Jack Brady Sean Mac Bradaigh Reamor Aontainthe 14 David Givney Dáithí Ó Dhuibhne Ciceam Bailemunna 15 Martin Reilly Mairtín Ó Raghallaigh Coill na Gearraí

All Ireland Qualifier (AIQ) Cavan V Westmeath Saturday 28th June, Kingspan Breffni Park at 3pm.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on June 26, 2014, 10:36:56 PM
How do people think we will line out? Givney inside presumably (and unfortunately) but who along with him?

Cavan go to play Warwickshire in the All Ireland Junior Semi Final. Something tells me Terry might see a chance for an All Ireland final appearance and hesitate in putting in the likes of Moynagh, O'Connor or Enda Reilly in at Senior level and rob them of the chance.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on June 26, 2014, 11:24:54 PM
I presume Hayes will be corner back. Clarke sweeper. The rest is obvious except for the Full Forward line. Can't see Jack or Martin Reilly playing inside. I think there will be a change there. Maybe Paul o Connor for Jack? Lyng wasn't even only the named panel last week so hard to see where his inclusion is coming from. Argue should have started against Armagh so no issue there. Big call dropping Keating, he's been poor but so has Givney.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on June 26, 2014, 11:31:58 PM
Lyng was the obvios player to replace Mackey. Played last week against Louth last week in Juniors , didn't play this week against Longford so was a sign he was in contention to start. Not many other play maker type players on the Cavan panel
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mrdeeds on June 27, 2014, 12:33:45 AM
Lyng the obvious choice to replace Mackey???? Not a chance. Speed long gone. Was way out of his depth in junior game last week against Louth.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Blue in hope on June 27, 2014, 09:58:47 AM

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Lyng the obvious choice to replace Mackey???? Not a chance. Speed long gone. Was way out of his depth in junior game last week against Louth.

Disagree with you Lyng may not be as fast as he use to but he is one of the best playmakers in the county knows how to pass a ball into the full forward line. HE was excellent against Limerick in the NFL  scoring four points from play and he ran the show.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on June 27, 2014, 10:05:54 AM
His speed is long gone becuase of the serious injuries he had, still a very good play maker and not many players with his vision in the County.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mrdeeds on June 27, 2014, 11:08:15 AM
I agree good playmaker but was the problem against Armagh not being able to break the tackle? Against Louth in juniors he didn't want the ball and hand passed it as soon as he got it usually backwards. Can get away at club level not being mobile but not at county.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on June 27, 2014, 02:06:43 PM
If Lyng plays I would put money that he will be left inside with Givney. Jack Brady will come out and play a deeper role. Lyng is a good passer but no way is he a like for like replacement for Mackey or anything close. He won't break the tackle. Argue is the right call and will give us an out if things aren't working in the middle. Seems a shame Enda Reilly isnt on the panel, playing great for the Juniors.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on June 27, 2014, 02:30:42 PM
I think its a strong enough team without using Juniors players. They have an All Ireland Semi so would be nice win that competition,  not like Cavan are going to win Sam this year

I was comparing Lyng and Mackey for passing ability, lyng probaly cant break the tackle , that was evident against Donegal in 2011. If he gets room he will deliver a good pass. Jack Brady will probaly roam out again, played his best football inside with the u21 in 2011 being used further out since that.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on June 28, 2014, 08:45:18 PM
Lyng was one of Cavans best performers today so much for him not being up to it. Kicked 3 lovely scores, ,linked well too . Jack Brady showed well ,didnt get enough ball. Thought Killian Brady worked hard, Maloney Derham and McGlaughlin. Very lucky John Heslin missed a very handy free towards the end. Good to get a win anyway
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Old yeller on June 28, 2014, 09:05:01 PM
So what would be the best draw for Cavan in the next round of the qualifiers?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on June 28, 2014, 09:25:32 PM
Quote from: Old yeller on June 28, 2014, 09:05:01 PM
So what would be the best draw for Cavan in the next round of the qualifiers?

I don't think we will win unless we get Clare.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Duckquay on June 28, 2014, 10:21:47 PM
Hard to know what to take out of that bar being in the next round. Good call playing Martin Reilly as sweeper, his reading of the game and mobility on and off the ball was a big plus. McLoughlin was the pick of the defence IMO. Big Duffy at midfield completely nullified Gearoid until he got injured and had to go off. Lying showed well but missed equally as much as he scored. Jack was our best player, looked to have a bit more confidence in himself. Givney was absolutely dire in the first half but came out second half and struck a peach of a point on the outside of the right. He showed good hands for the goal too but aside from those two moments did little else of note. It's scary how much we miss Mackey and the different dimension he gives us with ball in hand.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on June 28, 2014, 10:42:26 PM
First bit  play of when Mackey came on, he broke a tackle and was unluky to send the shot wide. He looks like he could shed a pound or 2 though, clearly not at the fitness of last year, as he had lots of niggling injuries this year.

Jack Brady wasn't used enough imo, was very lively when he did get the right ball, some of the balls played in by McDermott and Argue he had no chance of getting. I though both players worked hard all the same, Argue got a great score in the second half and probaly should have been brought to midfield when Mckiernan was struggling.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Western Blue on June 29, 2014, 02:57:18 PM
Can somebody tell when are the Cavan Junior Team  playing Warwickshire in the All Ireland Semi Final and the Venue. Cant find details anywhere?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Blue06 on June 29, 2014, 03:48:59 PM
Can somebody tell when are the Cavan Junior Team  playing Warwickshire in the All Ireland Semi Final and the Venue. Cant find details anywhere?

Warwickshire were beaten in the British Final today by Scotland.

So its Scotland we will be playing in the semi final.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on June 29, 2014, 03:57:57 PM
The All Ireland Junior Semi against Kerry in 2012 was in the second week of August, probaly the same again this year. Sligo and Kerry are the other Semi finalists this year.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Western Blue on June 29, 2014, 04:52:53 PM
Well done Scotland . As we have played all our games away in Leinster, do we now get a Home fixture in Cavan or do we have travel to Scotland. Venue ? Parkhead or Ibrox the venue with an all ticket match/sell out?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on June 29, 2014, 04:56:00 PM
No away, Murrayfield has a bigger capacity then Parkhaed or Ibrox, so it will probaly be there,
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Zulu on June 29, 2014, 07:19:30 PM
Game is on August 9th, almost certainly in Edinburgh. Let me know if any of you are coming over and need help with Accomodation. It's comedy festival time then so Accomodation will become very expensive the longer you leave it.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: comeysfield on June 30, 2014, 09:55:01 AM
RTE radio quality not great when I was travelling to work but we got Roscommon and I think it was at home (not 100% sure). So a 50 /50 game. The good pieces on Saturday was the work rate Martin Reilly as sweeper worked but would like to see him  a bit further forward. Argue worked and half forward line worked their socks off. Damien O'Reilly needs to think faster, Gearoids form is still dubious, Mackey did one good thing and then could have lost us the game while trying to be a bit flash. He is a stone away from Senior County football so we are probably going to have to just forget about him this year
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on July 08, 2014, 11:36:01 AM
Let this be our rallying cry.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fmFNy87cS9g
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on July 13, 2014, 12:56:13 AM
We hit a wall today. Change is required or we may waste the underage talent we have produced. Today was a throw back to the bad old days. Gutted with the way that game went.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on July 13, 2014, 12:48:30 PM
Avoiding Hoganstand, avoiding match reports, avoiding post match interviews posted by County Board on twitter. Absolutely gutted, and gutted for the team.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on July 13, 2014, 11:57:55 PM
I think a lot of us saw a defeat coming here. For me, the whole thing has been flat since the league final and we're in a worrying place right now. The manner of this defeat suggests that our worries are not just tactical and that there's now the all-too-familiar malaise of player apathy in there as well?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on July 14, 2014, 10:35:12 AM
At the start of the year the most important thing was promotion to Div 2. Achieved.  The league final showed us that teams knew how to play us.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: comeysfield on July 14, 2014, 12:04:34 PM
Very poor just about sums it up. Mid field non-existent not sure how some lads stays on the field. Not trying to name names here as it is not really fair.  Then  playing 3 forwards in defense means that it just shows us up for what we are.  Not sure they are forwards anymore as they are not allowed shoot anyway. I think we now have a system in Cavan where we do not let lads play football at all. We do not even let them play football with the clubs. It will need a bit of thought for us to turn this around and stay in Division 2. To me it just started to look like lads going through the motions in that second half. God knows we do not want to go back there. Hopefully lads will get a good rest from the county now. Well give it two weeks and club championship time.   
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Old yeller on July 14, 2014, 07:12:55 PM
It'd make ya sick to look at it. We dont have to be playing like Dublin, but at this stage we are playing by far the worst style of football in the country. Something needs to change, we have gone backwards this year and as far as I can see it is because we have been playing in an even more negative fashion than last year. The u21 semi was the worst ive seen all year, lads afraid to shoot. It has to stop soon because they wont know any other way. Its giving a proud county like Cavan a terrible name too.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on July 21, 2014, 11:02:23 PM
And still lost that game by 1 point to Dublin, looked what happened Roscommon when they naively went man to man with Dublin in the All Ireland final.

Good U16 team again this year, been impressive in the Gerry Reilly tournament, play Dublin on Sunday 7.30 Oldcastle in a repeat of last years final. Dublin no doubt will be strong again.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: comeysfield on July 23, 2014, 11:10:01 AM
Well Championship starts off this weekend so

Gaels or Castlerahan for senior ? 

Cootehill or will this be the year Ballyhaise finally get a cure of the yips

Junior should be Arva but then it should have been Arva last year as well
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on July 23, 2014, 01:54:12 PM
Castlerahan have a good panel but missing Ronan Flanagan and Cian Mackey will probaly cost them. Mackey is suppose to be out for 3 months. Kingscourt have Barry Tully back this year after being in London last year, and Christy McGowan ex Leitrim player now playing for them.
Ramor have lots of talent but yet to make a real impact in the Senior Championship,
Hard to see Ballinagh retaining the Senior title. Gaels will want to impress under Canavan, they have injuries too.

Ballyhaise were going well in the League but Tierney is out for a while i think

Arva lost Bouhier to the States for the summer so he will be a miss, probaly should have enough until he comes back. Cornafean will be thereabouts, Ballymacugh too.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Boogie on July 23, 2014, 08:44:10 PM
Where are you getting this info that Mackey is out for 3 months? I was told he has 4 more weeks to go plus the 3 weeks that have passed since he stopped with Cavan so 7 weeks out in total. If they can get past the first round proper they will have him and flanagan back which would be a massive help
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: comeysfield on July 24, 2014, 09:54:44 AM
Did the U16 game against Dublin happen yet
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on July 24, 2014, 06:07:32 PM
Quote from: comeysfield on July 24, 2014, 09:54:44 AM
Did the U16 game against Dublin happen yet

On Sunday in Millbrook. Details on HS.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on July 24, 2014, 09:03:54 PM
Quote from: Boogie on July 23, 2014, 08:44:10 PM
Where are you getting this info that Mackey is out for 3 months? I was told he has 4 more weeks to go plus the 3 weeks that have passed since he stopped with Cavan so 7 weeks out in total. If they can get past the first round proper they will have him and flanagan back which would be a massive help

I saw someone mention it on boards.ie. Although probaly shouldnt read much what they say on there.
They put up a nice score last week in the Breffni League final.

Gerry Reilly final details http://www.hoganstand.com/cavan/ArticleForm.aspx?ID=221145
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on July 27, 2014, 09:10:18 PM
Promising stuff from the U16s, have hammered everyone in the Gerry Reilly tournament and gave the Dubs a bit of a pasting this evening 1-16 to 1-08 to win the Cup. There's obviously a half decent pool of talent there, our next minor manager appointment is very important.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Zulu on July 29, 2014, 01:19:40 PM
Lads, can any of you tell who the management team are for the Cavan junior football team?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: orangeman on July 29, 2014, 01:28:05 PM
Quote from: Zulu on July 29, 2014, 01:19:40 PM
Lads, can any of you tell who the management team are for the Cavan junior football team?

Same as seniors afaik.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Zulu on July 29, 2014, 03:52:37 PM
I know Terry Hyland is manager of the seniors but would anyone have the names of the selectors, if they are the same as the senior set up? A friend of mine is involved in producing the programme for Scotland v Cavan and they haven't been able to get the information of the Cavan CB as far as i know.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanlad on July 29, 2014, 04:09:13 PM
Quote from: Zulu on July 29, 2014, 03:52:37 PM
I know Terry Hyland is manager of the seniors but would anyone have the names of the selectors, if they are the same as the senior set up? A friend of mine is involved in producing the programme for Scotland v Cavan and they haven't been able to get the information of the Cavan CB as far as i know.

Terry Hyland, Anthony Forde, Padraig Dolan, Joe McCarthy, Peter Donnelly
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Zulu on July 29, 2014, 05:13:19 PM
Thanks lads, I'll pass it on.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on August 02, 2014, 08:21:48 PM
Was in Breffni this evening for Templeport v Corlough. Corlough were a sad sight.. Missing about 7 main players they could barely field a team and were well beaten in all sectors of the field. Probably the worst sight for myself was seeing Brendan McGovern stationed at full back. I remember seeing him playing Minor in 2005/6 and thinking he was among the best young forwards in the county at the time.

Hard to know where Templeport are after that, they won't have learned much. Liam Galligan looked quality and scored about 2-3 but he was given a lot of space and time. Sean Dolan very solid around the middle and young Michael Devine and Paddy McGoldrick are two very natural defenders. They'll be worried about the frees though, Dillon Raythorne kicked some very scorable ones wide. Again though they won't be any wiser about their chances this year after that, I think Cornafean are up next. Corlough, well it's damage limitation and a team that we may see not fielding a team within the next few years. 
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on August 03, 2014, 09:48:37 AM
Corlough have been doing well to survive as a club. Even 10 or more years ago in the best of times when I knew a few of the players they were always struggling with lads being away. Some day in the near future some of these clubs are going to have to amalgamate or merge into another. Kill were the junior champions last year and also suffered a heavy defeat. Killeshandra Intermediate champs took a heavy defeat although I don't think thats anything to do with emigration and more to do with the team not putting in the effort this year, it could be a short stay in the Senior championship for them unless they buck up their ideas.

Delighted to see the U16s win the Gerry Reilly tournament, good spread of club represented. Its a fine achievement to win such a tournament but also the manner of the crushing defeats they handed out is also impressive. I'm not familiar with who is in charge of these U16s but would they be an option for the minor team? Last years minors were wasted by terrible management, we need to start producing winning teams at that level again.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on August 03, 2014, 12:58:00 PM
Danny Brady - Mullahoran was over the u16's, Andy McGovern, Eamon Brady, James Moynagh the rest of the managment.
They played a nice style of football, didn't play with any sweepers.

They done well considering the Co board had a load  of club u16 games during that period, no rest for the players. They aren't playing in the Fr Manning Cup - something to do with player burnout.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on August 03, 2014, 01:15:11 PM
They have been doing well to field a team at all for the past few years. Joining with Swad could be an option.

Templeport could cause a few problems for other sides in Junior this year. They have had a decent core of players for the past few years and are now fitting in their talented younger players around that. If Ben Kiernan and Seamus McAweeney came back into that forward line it would look as good as any front 6 in the Junior Championship. Still, it's usually the old dog for the hard road so it might not be their time just yet.

The U16 results were very impressive but will have very little bearing on Ulster Championship in 2 years time. The management look to have proven themselves at this level and surely they can't be as bad as the last pair so I'd say they deserve serious consideration for the position if they want it.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on August 03, 2014, 01:27:03 PM
The last pair got an average enough Cavan team the first Minor title in over 30 years. There was more talented Cavan Minor teams before then that did noting, the constant slating of that managment is a bit unnecesary.

Whoever get the Minor job will have to work well with the coaches in Pats and Virginia so that there won't be a situation like this year. It was the first time Pats had done well in McRory in a long time so it was a new situation to deal with it.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on August 03, 2014, 03:04:27 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on August 03, 2014, 01:27:03 PM
The last pair got an average enough Cavan team the first Minor title in over 30 years. There was more talented Cavan Minor teams before then that did noting, the constant slating of that managment is a bit unnecesary.

Whoever get the Minor job will have to work well with the coaches in Pats and Virginia so that there won't be a situation like this year. It was the first time Pats had done well in McRory in a long time so it was a new situation to deal with it.

An average enough Minor team?! Sankey, Killian Clarke, Gerry Smith, Conor Moynagh, Paul Graham, Joe Dillon, Liam Buchanan, Michael Argue, Andy Graham Kevin Bouchier, Dara McVeety, Nevin O'Donnell all went on to win 2 or 3 Ulster U21 Championships each. By national standards that's not an average group of players never mind in comparison to Minor footballers from Cavan for the past number of years.

We hear that same old song every single year about Cavan Minor teams, Rodney you were saying this years Minors had an Ulster title in them before a ball was kicked this year, they were hammered in the first round by an Armagh team who lost the Ulster final and got annihilated by Mayo in the QF. 
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on August 03, 2014, 04:23:01 PM
Quote from: Westside on August 03, 2014, 03:04:27 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on August 03, 2014, 01:27:03 PM
The last pair got an average enough Cavan team the first Minor title in over 30 years. There was more talented Cavan Minor teams before then that did noting, the constant slating of that managment is a bit unnecesary.

Whoever get the Minor job will have to work well with the coaches in Pats and Virginia so that there won't be a situation like this year. It was the first time Pats had done well in McRory in a long time so it was a new situation to deal with it.

An average enough Minor team?! Sankey, Killian Clarke, Gerry Smith, Conor Moynagh, Paul Graham, Joe Dillon, Liam Buchanan, Michael Argue, Andy Graham Kevin Bouchier, Dara McVeety, Nevin O'Donnell all went on to win 2 or 3 Ulster U21 Championships each. By national standards that's not an average group of players never mind in comparison to Minor footballers from Cavan for the past number of years.

We hear that same old song every single year about Cavan Minor teams, Rodney you were saying this years Minors had an Ulster title in them before a ball was kicked this year, they were hammered in the first round by an Armagh team who lost the Ulster final and got annihilated by Mayo in the QF.

Yes at the time they were an average enough team, Im not talking about after that... There was low expectation of that team after a poor Minor league campaign that year. Those players have obviously pushed on and performed well at u21 level

What did i say about next years Minor team Westside? just saying whoever is over the team needs to get the structure right regarding the lads on the Pats and Virginia team so that they can train more collectively. They need to have good preperation in order to be competitive, never said they would be winning ulster next year. so maybe read it right. As for the dig about me saying they would win Ulster this year- they performed well in the league so there was some hope that would do well - never said would win it just that there was good talent in that team and more so in attack. Cavan beat Armagh well in the Minor league so there was hope - just didnt peform on the day.





Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on August 03, 2014, 06:12:06 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on August 03, 2014, 04:23:01 PM
Quote from: Westside on August 03, 2014, 03:04:27 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on August 03, 2014, 01:27:03 PM
The last pair got an average enough Cavan team the first Minor title in over 30 years. There was more talented Cavan Minor teams before then that did noting, the constant slating of that managment is a bit unnecesary.

Whoever get the Minor job will have to work well with the coaches in Pats and Virginia so that there won't be a situation like this year. It was the first time Pats had done well in McRory in a long time so it was a new situation to deal with it.

An average enough Minor team?! Sankey, Killian Clarke, Gerry Smith, Conor Moynagh, Paul Graham, Joe Dillon, Liam Buchanan, Michael Argue, Andy Graham Kevin Bouchier, Dara McVeety, Nevin O'Donnell all went on to win 2 or 3 Ulster U21 Championships each. By national standards that's not an average group of players never mind in comparison to Minor footballers from Cavan for the past number of years.

We hear that same old song every single year about Cavan Minor teams, Rodney you were saying this years Minors had an Ulster title in them before a ball was kicked this year, they were hammered in the first round by an Armagh team who lost the Ulster final and got annihilated by Mayo in the QF.

Yes at the time they were an average enough team, Im not talking about after that... There was low expectation of that team after a poor Minor league campaign that year. Those players have obviously pushed on and performed well at u21 level

What did i say about next years Minor team Westside? just saying whoever is over the team needs to get the structure right regarding the lads on the Pats and Virginia team so that they can train more collectively. They need to have good preperation in order to be competitive, never said they would be winning ulster next year. so maybe read it right. As for the dig about me saying they would win Ulster this year- they performed well in the league so there was some hope that would do well - never said would win it just that there was good talent in that team and more so in attack. Cavan beat Armagh well in the Minor league so there was hope - just didnt peform on the day.

Gary Donohoe came upon a rag tag group of youngsters in Cavan and turned them into a bunch of lads who went on to never lose an underage game in Ulster Championship. Are you sure you weren't watching the Mighty Ducks instead rodders?

What I said was that you had posted that THIS YEAR'S Minor team were capable of winning Ulster. This year is 2014. And they got hammered by Armagh.
So on the one hand we have the average 2011 Minor team (Won the Ulster Minor Championship and most featured in the winning of 3 consecutive Ulster U21 Championships) and then we have the extremely talented 2014 Minor team, complete with, as you put it before the game, "free scoring forwards" who were beaten by 10 points in the first round managing 6 points. Logic by rodney.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on August 03, 2014, 06:44:03 PM
What bull are you talking. The team in 2011 as i had highlted earlier when you were criticizing Donahoe had been poor that year in the Minor League. They obviously clicked in the championshiop - but it was a surprise to most as there more talent in other teams  prior to that team to win the first title in over 30 years

The team in 2014 I said had talented forwards and I thought they were capable of beating Armagh as they showed good form in the league. I never said they were going to win Ulster but capable.

And Im not mystic meg so I wasn't to know they would lose by 10pts to Armagh
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on August 09, 2014, 08:24:47 PM
Our Junior team easily beat Scotland today 1-17 to 0-6. They will meet Kerry in the final who had a big win over Sligo, despite the teams being level at half time. The Cavan team looks weaker now with Turloc Mooney and Phillip Tinnelly out having played for the seniors and I see Conor Moynagh wasn't playing either. The final is in two weeks exact date and time not set yet. Despite this being a forgotten competition, I would not underestimate the importance of winning a national title.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on August 09, 2014, 08:28:41 PM
Think Moynagh is in America. Strange that he went when he was still involved with the Juniors. He won't be back until the end of the month according to the Celt so unlikely to be involved in the final.

Kerry have a good record at Junior and will be strong again, they beat Cavan 2 years ago in the Semi.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on August 10, 2014, 03:59:36 PM
Hard to blame the lads for taking the chance to go spend a couple of months in America and earn a tidy sum in the process more than likely.

Feel bad for Tinnelly, robbed of the chance to Captain his county in an All Ireland Final for the sake of a few minutes of game time in a qualifier game that was over by the time he was introduced. Anyone any idea where the Junior Final would be? Hardly Croker?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on August 10, 2014, 06:45:52 PM
Probably portlaoise!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on August 10, 2014, 07:03:55 PM
Junior finals don't tend to be in Croke Park so unlikely to start this year

Not blaming Moynagh - westside, the chance was there and he went. There was 20 other odd lads on the Junior panel that could have went to the US, but goodluck to him. Hopefully the stories of him not being impressed at getting a run with the Seniors aren't true when he was only brought into the panel after the u21 campaign was over.
Other lads there longer and could have felt more frustrated.




Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on August 15, 2014, 09:49:53 PM
County Champions Ballinagh well bet today by Cucus. Surprised by that result.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on August 15, 2014, 09:56:55 PM
Ballinagh got it tough enough against Cuchullains last year in Virginia,Cuchullains have some good forwards and a big pitch like breffni would have suited their forwards , 3 forwards on the Co Minor panel this year - adam reilly got 1-5 from play.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on August 23, 2014, 10:53:53 AM
Hopefully the juniors can win today. The season might seem like a bit of a failure but if we were to win the All Ireland Junior Final, the Ulster U21 final running eventual easy winners so close and even the Gerry Reilly title then it would still represent overall progress for the county.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on August 23, 2014, 04:48:35 PM
Great result today beating kerry by 6, Hayes hit 2-2. Hopefully a stepping stone for these lads to better things.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on August 23, 2014, 05:00:59 PM
It was a good season overall, Ulster U21, Promotion from Div 3 and Leinster Junior and All Ireland. as well as the u16 Gerry Reilly Cup.



Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on August 23, 2014, 05:53:55 PM
Go on the lads!!! Great stuff. Hayes is a gem. Heard Ryan Connolly was called into the panel for the final.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on August 23, 2014, 08:31:41 PM
Quote from: Westside on August 23, 2014, 05:53:55 PM
Go on the lads!!! Great stuff. Hayes is a gem. Heard Ryan Connolly was called into the panel for the final.

I was following the game on twitter, I don't think Connolly came on but still good to involve him. I believe Hayes goal was a piece of magic, surely he will be a big player for the seniors some day. If he is anything like the brother, attitude and desire will not be a problem for him and he surely has the skill level.

I know we were all disappointed after the championship and the eejits on Hoganstand are no doubt still calling for Hyland to be replaced by Martin McHugh or whoever but the fact is that this year we made another step in the right direction.

As Rodney said, priority No 1 was promotion to Div 2, achieved with a minimum of fuss. We retained the Ulster U21 for an incredible 4th year in a row and only lost by a point to Dublin where a ref fucked us over big time, a ref that I don't think seen a game of significance since. When you see how Dublin destroyed Roscommon you can see how close we were to winning it out. We also saw the re-emergence of St Pats and an U16 team easily beating the might of Dublin.

Disappointments for sure with the seniors and even worse the total mismanagement of the minors who had a very talented team. But those of us with long memories will recall what it was like only a few years ago, embarrassing hammerings against Wicklow, Longford in Breffni etc. We are going in the right direction and I think on reflection the management we have are best placed to move us on and learn from what didnt work for us this year.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on August 24, 2014, 09:53:30 AM
Ice Bucket Challenge by the Cavan Juniors. Mad cow disease is back!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9t0K3mQJcS8
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on August 24, 2014, 10:04:24 AM
A lot of people over look the fact that Cavan were missing a number of key players from last year's run this year in the Championship. Mackey, Killian Clarke, and Martin Dunne were nominated for All Stars last year none played against Roscommon, Rory Dunne either, MOTM against Kerry last year.. Ronan Flanagan had a good year last in 2013 as well., Cavan doesn't have the experience to replace those players easily, so i don't know why there was such a meltdown over the championship. The style of play could be better alright.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: skeog on August 25, 2014, 05:02:11 PM
peter donnelly to join mickey hartes backroom team does this mean he will no longer be with cavan gaa be a big loss to cavan as he is regarded in tyrone to being the driving force behind cavans u 21s success
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on August 25, 2014, 05:10:12 PM
Yes, there has been talk of that. He did great work with Cavan setting a good foundation since he came in 2008 with the Development Squads and then U21 and Seniors since 2013, But a chance for somone else now and a different style perhaps too.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on September 05, 2014, 01:12:45 PM
 http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/gaelic-games/29070254
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Blue in hope on September 05, 2014, 01:43:46 PM
Joe Mc Carthy going as well. gives terry a chance to bring in new faces
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on September 08, 2014, 09:04:25 PM
Let's hope the right appointments are made to replace Peter and Joe. Two big losses. I can understand why Donnelly would be keen to return to Tyrone but is there any non-personal reasons for Joe leaving?

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: comeysfield on September 10, 2014, 05:29:32 PM
Joe is staying on at U21 level not sure if the Donnelly thing is confirmed but looks like he will be going to tyrone
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on September 10, 2014, 11:00:31 PM
This Donnelly thing is dodgy. On one hand it gives an opportunity to freshen things up. On the other side he is very very well thought of by the players. They bought into his regime big time. When a man like that goes it can often mean the players will question the new man, is he as good as Donnelly, is he talking crap etc etc. When Martin McHugh left in 97 thats happened with Kerrigan. It probably happened in Man Utd when Ferguson left and was replaced by Moyes. It is a risk and it means that Cavan must be very careful and make sure they get the right man in for this job, someone that will demand respect.

Havent been home to see any championship matches but have been following on twitter etc. Seems the standard might be finally improving, there were some good close games. Any comments on the overall standard from people who attended?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on September 11, 2014, 08:19:09 AM
I seen 4 games last weekend and would not say standard has improved. Intermediate is very weak and senior poor. Quarter finals now so may improve
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: comeysfield on September 11, 2014, 02:03:17 PM
Been to lots of games and have not seen any thing positive from the point of view of scoring/ forward power. Where I think we all agree is our weakness. The exception to that is Enda H at Cootehill and in the Gaels Vs Cuchulainns match where it looks to me like the Gaels may be a long way towards being back to having a formidable running game. That game was without Johnston and Dunne so I wish us all luck if even they get one of them back
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dirtyball on September 15, 2014, 11:17:16 AM
It really is time for major changes at the top table within the Co Board. We now have a situation where 2 teams have qualified for the Senior Semis and they don't know who they playing. How can they plan ahead? Castlerahan have lost 3 times and can still be in the hunt. Our county team are out of the All ireland series since the middle of July yet we haven't even completed our quarters yet. We have a full time paid County Secetary who seems a usefull as an ashtray on a motorbike ! Club football is been pushed further and further into the background year after year. Hopefully we will get a Chairman next year who will make club football attractive and a priority otherwise we won't have a Cointy team in the future.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: comeysfield on September 15, 2014, 12:10:13 PM
As killinkere are now in a Semi vs Cootehill, Enda H is no longer a good footballer he is a target and that paid County Secretary is doing a great Job. Parochial is the way to keep it !!!!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Blue in hope on September 15, 2014, 05:45:43 PM
The biggest change needed is in the CCC. How they make the appointment off ref's is a complete joke.The majority of the refs appointed come from East Cavan the same area as the secretary of the CCC.
A player gets sent of for a headbutt back out playing the following Saturday night.
  Was in Breffni for two quarter final matches this weekend  and we had two ref's that were totally hopeless. The Ref for the Ramor v Kingscourt game was not able for it and he let the sidelines dictate what he did the whole match.
On Friday night game the ref was very poor to the extent at the end of the game Johnston was fouled  25m out in front of the posts  and he gave  a free out. The stand broke out laughing at  the decision. The Ref in question has not done his fitness test and refresher course in Cavan this year. HE should NOT be refereeing match as this is a requirement to ref in the championship.
Why are referees been accessed at each match if the CCC are ignoring them. Surely the referee accessors panel should be appointing the refs for games and not a few clubs representatives on the CCC  looking after certain teams. CCC don't do it  in Croke Park for county matches so why do we allow it to happen in Cavan.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on September 15, 2014, 08:03:00 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on September 10, 2014, 11:00:31 PM
This Donnelly thing is dodgy. On one hand it gives an opportunity to freshen things up. On the other side he is very very well thought of by the players. They bought into his regime big time. When a man like that goes it can often mean the players will question the new man, is he as good as Donnelly, is he talking crap etc etc. When Martin McHugh left in 97 thats happened with Kerrigan. It probably happened in Man Utd when Ferguson left and was replaced by Moyes. It is a risk and it means that Cavan must be very careful and make sure they get the right man in for this job, someone that will demand respect.



There are at least 4 positions to be filled now

Development Coach - Is he leaving this role?


Strength and Conditioning Coach
County Team Trainer
Blanket Defense coach

I wouldn't hold my breath Myles he only started training the team as he was involved with the team with the S&C and the man who was supposed to train them wasn't up to it so he stepped in.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on September 15, 2014, 08:54:56 PM
Quote from: Dirtyball on September 15, 2014, 11:17:16 AM
It really is time for major changes at the top table within the Co Board. We now have a situation where 2 teams have qualified for the Senior Semis and they don't know who they playing. How can they plan ahead? Castlerahan have lost 3 times and can still be in the hunt. Our county team are out of the All ireland series since the middle of July yet we haven't even completed our quarters yet. We have a full time paid County Secetary who seems a usefull as an ashtray on a motorbike ! Club football is been pushed further and further into the background year after year. Hopefully we will get a Chairman next year who will make club football attractive and a priority otherwise we won't have a Cointy team in the future.

How is it the county boards fault that Castlerahan are appealing? Maybe they should just take their beating. In fact maybe some clubs should have a look at themselves if they don't like the championship format.

Who are the front runners for the chairman job? Keoghan I hear is one God help us.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on September 15, 2014, 08:58:03 PM
Quote from: tommysmith on September 15, 2014, 08:03:00 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on September 10, 2014, 11:00:31 PM
This Donnelly thing is dodgy. On one hand it gives an opportunity to freshen things up. On the other side he is very very well thought of by the players. They bought into his regime big time. When a man like that goes it can often mean the players will question the new man, is he as good as Donnelly, is he talking crap etc etc. When Martin McHugh left in 97 thats happened with Kerrigan. It probably happened in Man Utd when Ferguson left and was replaced by Moyes. It is a risk and it means that Cavan must be very careful and make sure they get the right man in for this job, someone that will demand respect.



There are at least 4 positions to be filled now

Development Coach - Is he leaving this role?


Strength and Conditioning Coach
County Team Trainer
Blanket Defense coach

I wouldn't hold my breath Myles he only started training the team as he was involved with the team with the S&C and the man who was supposed to train them wasn't up to it so he stepped in.

Its a key appointment (or four appointments), Is there anyone in the county properly qualified to do the role. I presume Nicholas  Walsh is still in Australia, he'd hardly be tempted to come back?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on September 16, 2014, 08:23:05 AM
There are S&C coaches trained in the county as I believe 4 or 5 did the course at the same time as Peter but they may not be suitable for the Development coach role.  I wouldn't trust the county board to pick the right person as the last appointment in there was probably decided before the interviews.

I think someone is going to have to be brought in to do the team training but this will be separate from the two mentioned above.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dirtyball on September 16, 2014, 09:53:56 AM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on September 15, 2014, 08:54:56 PM
Quote from: Dirtyball on September 15, 2014, 11:17:16 AM
It really is time for major changes at the top table within the Co Board. We now have a situation where 2 teams have qualified for the Senior Semis and they don't know who they playing. How can they plan ahead? Castlerahan have lost 3 times and can still be in the hunt. Our county team are out of the All ireland series since the middle of July yet we haven't even completed our quarters yet. We have a full time paid County Secetary who seems a usefull as an ashtray on a motorbike ! Club football is been pushed further and further into the background year after year. Hopefully we will get a Chairman next year who will make club football attractive and a priority otherwise we won't have a Cointy team in the future.

How is it the county boards fault that Castlerahan are appealing? Maybe they should just take their beating. In fact maybe some clubs should have a look at themselves if they don't like the championship format.

Who are the front runners for the chairman job? Keoghan I hear is one God help us.
I never said it was the CB fault that Castlerahen were appealing but it is their fault that there is a system where a team can lose 3 games and still be in the Championship. An open draw was made with 4 back door teams and 4 who qualified legit thus leaving the opportunity for back door teams to meet. That's the height of madness . There must be some donkey responsible .seems there was no advantage for winning games. Now we have a suites toon where 2 teams have qualified for the semi finals but don't know who they are playing. So how can these teams work on tactics if they don't know who they playing? That semi final draw should have taken place last Sunday. Incompetent donkys running club football in Cavan.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Blue in hope on September 16, 2014, 12:53:16 PM
I never said it was the CB fault that Castlerahen were appealing but it is their fault that there is a system where a team can lose 3 games and still be in the Championship. An open draw was made with 4 back door teams and 4 who qualified legit thus leaving the opportunity for back door teams to meet. That's the height of madness . There must be some donkey responsible .seems there was no advantage for winning games. Now we have a suites toon where 2 teams have qualified for the semi finals but don't know who they are playing. So how can these teams work on tactics if they don't know who they playing? That semi final draw should have taken place last Sunday. Incompetent donkys running club football in Cavan.


You dont make sense Even if the draw was done last Sunday teams still mightn't know who they are playing. You could have Kingscourt V Lacken/Gaels  or V Mullahoran/Ballinagh/Castlerahen. 

Interesting to see the CCC are backing their man in appointing Tony Gregory to Ref the Gaels V Lacken Match. That is them giving  the two fingers to Castlerahen
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on September 16, 2014, 01:28:43 PM
I don't blame the referee for the mess it was the county secretary who called haf time over the intercom.

I reckon he was doing what he was told.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mrdeeds on September 16, 2014, 01:38:21 PM
Quote from: Dirtyball on September 16, 2014, 09:53:56 AM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on September 15, 2014, 08:54:56 PM
Quote from: Dirtyball on September 15, 2014, 11:17:16 AM
It really is time for major changes at the top table within the Co Board. We now have a situation where 2 teams have qualified for the Senior Semis and they don't know who they playing. How can they plan ahead? Castlerahan have lost 3 times and can still be in the hunt. Our county team are out of the All ireland series since the middle of July yet we haven't even completed our quarters yet. We have a full time paid County Secetary who seems a usefull as an ashtray on a motorbike ! Club football is been pushed further and further into the background year after year. Hopefully we will get a Chairman next year who will make club football attractive and a priority otherwise we won't have a Cointy team in the future.

How is it the county boards fault that Castlerahan are appealing? Maybe they should just take their beating. In fact maybe some clubs should have a look at themselves if they don't like the championship format.

Who are the front runners for the chairman job? Keoghan I hear is one God help us.
I never said it was the CB fault that Castlerahen were appealing but it is their fault that there is a system where a team can lose 3 games and still be in the Championship. An open draw was made with 4 back door teams and 4 who qualified legit thus leaving the opportunity for back door teams to meet. That's the height of madness . There must be some donkey responsible .seems there was no advantage for winning games. Now we have a suites toon where 2 teams have qualified for the semi finals but don't know who they are playing. So how can these teams work on tactics if they don't know who they playing? That semi final draw should have taken place last Sunday. Incompetent donkys running club football in Cavan.

How is it Castlerahan's fault for the system in place. A bizarre comment.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dirtyball on September 16, 2014, 02:09:52 PM
Quote from: mrdeeds on September 16, 2014, 01:38:21 PM
Quote from: Dirtyball on September 16, 2014, 09:53:56 AM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on September 15, 2014, 08:54:56 PM
Quote from: Dirtyball on September 15, 2014, 11:17:16 AM
It really is time for major changes at the top table within the Co Board. We now have a situation where 2 teams have qualified for the Senior Semis and they don't know who they playing. How can they plan ahead? Castlerahan have lost 3 times and can still be in the hunt. Our county team are out of the All ireland series since the middle of July yet we haven't even completed our quarters yet. We have a full time paid County Secetary who seems a usefull as an ashtray on a motorbike ! Club football is been pushed further and further into the background year after year. Hopefully we will get a Chairman next year who will make club football attractive and a priority otherwise we won't have a Cointy team in the future.

How is it the county boards fault that Castlerahan are appealing? Maybe they should just take their beating. In fact maybe some clubs should have a look at themselves if they don't like the championship format.

Who are the front runners for the chairman job? Keoghan I hear is one God help us.
I never said it was the CB fault that Castlerahen were appealing but it is their fault that there is a system where a team can lose 3 games and still be in the Championship. An open draw was made with 4 back door teams and 4 who qualified legit thus leaving the opportunity for back door teams to meet. That's the height of madness . There must be some donkey responsible .seems there was no advantage for winning games. Now we have a suites toon where 2 teams have qualified for the semi finals but don't know who they are playing. So how can these teams work on tactics if they don't know who they playing? That semi final draw should have taken place last Sunday. Incompetent donkys running club football in Cavan.

How is it Castlerahan's fault for the system in place. A bizarre comment.
if you read my last post again I lay the blame of the system with the CB. I shouldn't really have to point that out. You either can read or you can't!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mrdeeds on September 16, 2014, 02:18:24 PM
Quote from: Dirtyball on September 16, 2014, 02:09:52 PM
Quote from: mrdeeds on September 16, 2014, 01:38:21 PM
Quote from: Dirtyball on September 16, 2014, 09:53:56 AM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on September 15, 2014, 08:54:56 PM
Quote from: Dirtyball on September 15, 2014, 11:17:16 AM
It really is time for major changes at the top table within the Co Board. We now have a situation where 2 teams have qualified for the Senior Semis and they don't know who they playing. How can they plan ahead? Castlerahan have lost 3 times and can still be in the hunt. Our county team are out of the All ireland series since the middle of July yet we haven't even completed our quarters yet. We have a full time paid County Secetary who seems a usefull as an ashtray on a motorbike ! Club football is been pushed further and further into the background year after year. Hopefully we will get a Chairman next year who will make club football attractive and a priority otherwise we won't have a Cointy team in the future.

How is it the county boards fault that Castlerahan are appealing? Maybe they should just take their beating. In fact maybe some clubs should have a look at themselves if they don't like the championship format.

Who are the front runners for the chairman job? Keoghan I hear is one God help us.
I never said it was the CB fault that Castlerahen were appealing but it is their fault that there is a system where a team can lose 3 games and still be in the Championship. An open draw was made with 4 back door teams and 4 who qualified legit thus leaving the opportunity for back door teams to meet. That's the height of madness . There must be some donkey responsible .seems there was no advantage for winning games. Now we have a suites toon where 2 teams have qualified for the semi finals but don't know who they are playing. So how can these teams work on tactics if they don't know who they playing? That semi final draw should have taken place last Sunday. Incompetent donkys running club football in Cavan.

How is it Castlerahan's fault for the system in place. A bizarre comment.
if you read my last post again I lay the blame of the system with the CB. I shouldn't really have to point that out. You either can read or you can't!

Sorry. Re read. My mistake.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: comeysfield on September 16, 2014, 06:15:02 PM
Lads the County Board is made up of Club Representatives if you feel strongly go to your next club meeting and make suggestions. As the Executive of the county board are asking / looking for pointers for next years structures
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on September 16, 2014, 07:35:17 PM
Quote from: comeysfield on September 16, 2014, 06:15:02 PM
Lads the County Board is made up of Club Representatives if you feel strongly go to your next club meeting and make suggestions. As the Executive of the county board are asking / looking for pointers for next years structures

Yeah and then the Executiv/e can use there votes to get there way.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: comeysfield on September 17, 2014, 09:05:27 AM
True
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: five points on September 17, 2014, 01:00:05 PM
Quote from: Blue in hope on September 15, 2014, 05:45:43 PM
Why are referees been accessed at each match if the CCC are ignoring them. Surely the referee accessors panel should be appointing the refs for games and not a few clubs representatives on the CCC  looking after certain teams. CCC don't do it  in Croke Park for county matches so why do we allow it to happen in Cavan.

The Cavan CCC don't appoint referees. The county board uses the exact same process as Croke Park for appointing refs.  The GAA rule book doesn't allow referee assessors to appoint refs.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dirtyball on September 17, 2014, 01:13:02 PM
I expect a few clubs will be calling for the resignation of our full time "paid" co Sec after fiasco between Castlerahen and Mullahoran. And about time too. Ever since the Tommy Carr appointment it's been 1 f**k up after another at both county and club level. New blood  with fresh ideas almost  definitely needed.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Blue in hope on September 17, 2014, 02:41:37 PM
Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
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Quote from: Blue in hope on September 15, 2014, 05:45:43 PM
Why are referees been accessed at each match if the CCC are ignoring them. Surely the referee accessors panel should be appointing the refs for games and not a few clubs representatives on the CCC  looking after certain teams. CCC don't do it  in Croke Park for county matches so why do we allow it to happen in Cavan.

The Cavan CCC don't appoint referees. The county board uses the exact same process as Croke Park for appointing refs.  The GAA rule book doesn't allow referee assessors to appoint refs.


The Cavan CCC under the Chairmanship of Gary Robins and Secretary Angela Hamiliton from Shercock DO appoint all referees for matches in the county. The Cavan County Referee Co-ordinator John Duffy job is to forward on suitable names to  the CCC to referee matches on the basis that they have meet the minimum criteria (Passed fitness test,passed referees exam,and have done refresher courses, all run by him on as the co ordinator. He also takes into account the assessment received by the referees from previous matches. All Championship matches in Cavan have had a assessor appointed so John Duffys committee  have reports to go on based on their match performance. They make recommendation to the CCC based on all these point.
In Croke Park Pat Mc Enaeny is the national referee Co-ordinator and he appoints all inter county referees for matches not the CCC.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on September 17, 2014, 11:29:49 PM
The whole congestion of fixtures wouldn't have happened if the Co board had of played Extra time in the first Ramor - C'rahan game. They knew the losers would be playing Mullahoran the following week, instead of looking for ££ they  could have just had extra time that day without the a replay.
3 games in 8 days was too much, then the cck up with the lights going off. Looks like that case will drag out now

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: five points on September 18, 2014, 09:01:24 AM
I think theres a rule that drawn matches can't go to extra time & must go to a replay, unless the game is a replay.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on September 18, 2014, 09:23:09 AM
Cavan away to Roscommon in first round of the National League next year, Paul Fitz was saying on Twitter it's the 8th time in the last 10 years Cavan have been handed an away fixture in the first round.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mrdeeds on September 18, 2014, 09:31:33 AM
Quote from: five points on September 18, 2014, 09:01:24 AM
I think theres a rule that drawn matches can't go to extra time & must go to a replay, unless the game is a replay.

Any game up to quarters can have extra time.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on September 18, 2014, 12:50:29 PM
Division 2

Round 1 (1 February): Galway v Meath, Kildare v Down, Roscommon v Cavan, Westmeath v Laois

Round 2 (7/8 February): Down v Roscommon, Laois v Cavan, Meath v Kildare, Westmeath v Galway

Round 3 (28 February/1 March): Cavan v Down, Galway v Laois, Kildare v Westmeath, Roscommon v Meath

Round 4 (7/8 March): Cavan v Kildare, Down v Galway, Laois v Roscommon, Meath v Westmeath

Round 5 (14/15 March): Galway v Cavan, Kildare v Roscommon, Meath v Laois, Westmeath v Down

Round 6 (28/29 March): Cavan v Westmeath, Down v Meath, Laois v Kildare, Roscommon v Galway

Round 7 (5 April): Down v Laois, Galway v Kildare, Meath v Cavan, Westmeath v Roscommon


More away games then home yet again, Meath in the last round in Navan, they always seem to be at home whenever Cavan play them in the league. Some tough fixtures.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Collie Brolly on September 18, 2014, 01:52:23 PM
Quote from: mrdeeds on September 18, 2014, 09:31:33 AM
Quote from: five points on September 18, 2014, 09:01:24 AM
I think theres a rule that drawn matches can't go to extra time & must go to a replay, unless the game is a replay.

Any game up to quarters can have extra time.

Yiz are great lads up in Cyaaaavan for them rules so yiz are.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mrdeeds on September 18, 2014, 02:11:49 PM
Quote from: Collie Brolly on September 18, 2014, 01:52:23 PM
Quote from: mrdeeds on September 18, 2014, 09:31:33 AM
Quote from: five points on September 18, 2014, 09:01:24 AM
I think theres a rule that drawn matches can't go to extra time & must go to a replay, unless the game is a replay.

Any game up to quarters can have extra time.

Yiz are great lads up in Cyaaaavan for them rules so yiz are.

That crazy GAA with its rulebook
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on September 20, 2014, 03:42:02 PM
Danny Brady, Mullahoran is the new minor manager. Wasn't expecting that. Anyone know his qualifications for the job?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on September 20, 2014, 04:16:43 PM
Who were you expecting? He was Co u16 manager for the past 2 years and done a very good job, reaching 2 Gerry Reilly finals, winning it. this year. He was the obvious candidate
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on September 20, 2014, 10:49:25 PM
I see Larry is a selector too. He deserves it based on how well he's got on in the Gerry Reilly tournament. Let's hope they can treat players a bit better than they have been by the last management setup and have a repeat of the 2011 success in the next couple of years.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Old yeller on September 21, 2014, 12:07:21 PM
How were the players treated badly by the last management set up?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on September 21, 2014, 01:43:32 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on September 20, 2014, 04:16:43 PM
Who were you expecting? He was Co u16 manager for the past 2 years and done a very good job, reaching 2 Gerry Reilly finals, winning it. this year. He was the obvious candidate

Thought you might be in the running Rodders
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on September 21, 2014, 06:53:28 PM
Quote from: Itchy on September 21, 2014, 01:43:32 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on September 20, 2014, 04:16:43 PM
Who were you expecting? He was Co u16 manager for the past 2 years and done a very good job, reaching 2 Gerry Reilly finals, winning it. this year. He was the obvious candidate

Thought you might be in the running Rodders

Right,..

And I thought you were in the running for the Mayo job, tough luck there
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Old yeller on September 21, 2014, 09:41:12 PM
Quote from: Westside on September 20, 2014, 10:49:25 PM
I see Larry is a selector too. He deserves it based on how well he's got on in the Gerry Reilly tournament. Let's hope they can treat players a bit better than they have been by the last management setup and have a repeat of the 2011 success in the next couple of years.
How were the players treated badly by the last management set up?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mrdeeds on September 21, 2014, 09:56:38 PM
Quote from: Old yeller on September 21, 2014, 09:41:12 PM
Quote from: Westside on September 20, 2014, 10:49:25 PM
I see Larry is a selector too. He deserves it based on how well he's got on in the Gerry Reilly tournament. Let's hope they can treat players a bit better than they have been by the last management setup and have a repeat of the 2011 success in the next couple of years.
How were the players treated badly by the last management set up?

Personal abuse. Old school.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on September 21, 2014, 09:59:32 PM
The big challenge for the minor management is to get the balance right with the county set up and St Pats.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on September 21, 2014, 10:18:44 PM
There will be no issue with that, that was already discussed.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Old yeller on September 21, 2014, 11:17:03 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on September 21, 2014, 10:18:44 PM
There will be no issue with that, that was already discussed.
But seriously, what was the bad treatment they suffered?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on September 21, 2014, 11:43:50 PM
Quote from: Old yeller on September 21, 2014, 11:17:03 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on September 21, 2014, 10:18:44 PM
There will be no issue with that, that was already discussed.
But seriously, what was the bad treatment they suffered?

I was referring to the Pats and Co Minor management coming to an agreement over players being available to train with both teams. A few lads were dropped last this year for training with Pats - Andy McGovern should be a big help in that regard, he is part of the Co Minor management for next and involved with Pats.

It's important to have a strong Pat's team, 8 of that Kerry Minor team played in the Hogan Cup final against  St Pats Maghera in April
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Blue in hope on September 22, 2014, 11:20:27 AM
The CCC in Cavan are a joke . They have fixed the semi final between Cuchullians V Cavan Gaels for next Saturday night before the quarter finals matches have been completed. Why not play quarter final first and play both semis the following weekend? This will give both semi final winner equal time of between the final.
They also played a  first round match before the preliminary round.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: five points on September 22, 2014, 12:06:25 PM
Quote from: Blue in hope on September 17, 2014, 02:41:37 PM
The Cavan CCC under the Chairmanship of Gary Robins and Secretary Angela Hamiliton from Shercock DO appoint all referees for matches in the county.

Get your facts right.

Gary Robins isn't CCC Chairman.

Angela Hamilton isn't CCC secretary.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Blue in hope on September 22, 2014, 01:54:14 PM
Get your facts right.

Gary Robins isn't CCC Chairman.

Angela Hamilton isn't CCC secretary.

Facts are 100% right
Gary Robins IS  CCC Chairman.

Angela Hamilton IS  CCC secretary.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: five points on September 22, 2014, 02:30:46 PM
Nope.

Gerry McKiernan (Swanlinbar) is CCC Chairman.

Gary Robins is CCC Secretary, and Assistant Secretary of the County Board.

If you don't know these basic facts, how can you criticise the CCC so strongly?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on September 22, 2014, 02:43:18 PM
Quote from: five points on September 22, 2014, 02:30:46 PM
Nope.

Gerry McKiernan (Swanlinbar) is CCC Chairman.

Gary Robins is CCC Secretary, and Assistant Secretary of the County Board.

If you don't know these basic facts, how can you criticise the CCC so strongly?

The above is correct.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: packiedevlin on September 22, 2014, 05:44:08 PM
I was just wondering does anyone know who the referee was at the Killeshandra v Redhills game on Friday night? I dont think the person who was listed actually reffed the game. I know we all complain about how bad the referees are from time to time but mostly you can fault their attitude or willingness but the guy on Friday brought the standard in my opinion to a whole new low level. It was very plain from the beginning that he did not want to be there, he was never up with play the entire game and ive never seen such laziness from a ref before and due to this he made some absolutely awful decisions for both teams!! In relation to the game itself Killeshandra were much the better team even though they played with 14 men for 3/4 of the game (a straight red that no one seemed to know why ) and were deserving winners. Redhills 3 county players were very poor and McKiernan from Killeshandra dominated midfield.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on September 23, 2014, 09:50:27 PM
Saw this over on hogan stand forum. Cavan really have got shitty draws on the league.

Stats for league games 2005 - 2015 Cavan games 2005 4 away 3 home 1st game away; 2006 4 home 3 away 1st game home; 2007 4 away 3 home 1st game away; 2008 4 away 3 home 1st game away; 2009 4 away 3 home 1st game away; 2010 4 home 3 away 1st game away; 2011 4 away 3 home 1st game away; 2012 4 home 3 away 1st game away; 2013 4 away 3 home 1st game away; 2014 4 away 3 home 1st game home; 2015 4 away 3 home 1st game away. Total of 11 years - 8 away and 3 home. Out of the 11 years 1st game at home 2 and 1st game away 9 years. Also in that period Cavan played Meath 5 times in the league and all games were played in Navan.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on September 23, 2014, 09:57:07 PM
Quote from: packiedevlin on September 22, 2014, 05:44:08 PM
I was just wondering does anyone know who the referee was at the Killeshandra v Redhills game on Friday night? I dont think the person who was listed actually reffed the game. I know we all complain about how bad the referees are from time to time but mostly you can fault their attitude or willingness but the guy on Friday brought the standard in my opinion to a whole new low level. It was very plain from the beginning that he did not want to be there, he was never up with play the entire game and ive never seen such laziness from a ref before and due to this he made some absolutely awful decisions for both teams!! In relation to the game itself Killeshandra were much the better team even though they played with 14 men for 3/4 of the game (a straight red that no one seemed to know why ) and were deserving winners. Redhills 3 county players were very poor and McKiernan from Killeshandra dominated midfield.


Some very poor standard of refS in the County. Tony Gregory was awful in the Lacken - Gaels game on Friday night. Niall Murray should have got a straight red card in the first half but only got a yellow The Belturbet - Shercock game was ruined by poor calls too, Killian Clarke had a excellent game , started off in FF.

It should be a good game between them and Ballyhaise
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on October 04, 2014, 10:38:46 PM
Congratulations to cootehill. Well deserved win tonight over Ballyhaise. They'll do ok at senior level too next year.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: comeysfield on October 06, 2014, 09:42:31 AM
Well done to Cootehill felt very sorry for the man who got the red card. Fair play to Arva on finally winning that junior
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on October 06, 2014, 06:53:30 PM
Long time coming surely!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on October 07, 2014, 10:08:23 PM
F**k
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on October 07, 2014, 10:11:06 PM
Hard luck BHM. Sickener for you but I believe Cootehill were very impressive. Congrats to Arva too, I didn't think they would win that easy.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on October 07, 2014, 11:39:14 PM
Yep no complaints, we were well beaten. Alan Clarke didn't play against Ballinagh, is he injured???
I'd have said at the beginning the Stars with their whole complement could be good enough to beat the Gaels,but with Joe Dillon also out and Clarke doubtful,i just don't see anything other than a Gaels win.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on October 09, 2014, 09:28:46 PM
Time to restore normal order and beat Monaghan. Great draw for Cavan to be fair but then every other team on our side of the draw will be thinking that. The bottom half of the draw is a warzone! I always said the 3rd season is the important one. Remember when McHugh took over. 95 he over achieved getting to Ulster final, 96 was a big let down but 97 we did the business. We can dream!

What do ye think of Liam McHale possibly coming into  the Cavan set up? I wouldn't be too keen, hes a reputation as a bit of a soft touch in Mayo.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on October 09, 2014, 10:03:19 PM
Pats won today in the opening round of the MacRory group stages, 1-12 to 1-9 against Letterkenny. Few lads missing David Brady and Mattie McKenna, Co Minors.

McHale has a reputation as a very good coach, is it soft touch when he was a footballer?..
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rrhf on October 09, 2014, 10:04:39 PM
he was no soft touch in 96 flattened the meath men..
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mrdeeds on October 09, 2014, 10:20:26 PM
His coaching reputation is very high and is that not what we want. Sure if he's a soft touch it means nothing. Not like he manager. Thank god no preliminary round. Straight shoot out for a spot in final.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on October 09, 2014, 10:26:23 PM
Yeah, as long as his coaching skills are of a high standard, that's what matters. He was part of the St Brigids set up under Kevin McStay and took over over as manager when McStay left following that All Ireland win.
They are going for 5 in a row next Sunday in Roscommon.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on October 10, 2014, 01:42:57 PM
McHale managed a club close to where I live, didn't really deliver much in his time  there. They subsequently improved in the years after he was gone. Also, the reason McStay didn't get the Mayo just was a lot to do with unrest in the Mayo player camp about McHale, many Mayo players did not want him I am told.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on October 10, 2014, 01:43:33 PM
Quote from: rrhf on October 09, 2014, 10:04:39 PM
he was no soft touch in 96 flattened the meath men..

He flattened no one in that game, in fact he got the head bet of him and then he was sent off!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on October 10, 2014, 10:27:41 PM
I heard different about McHale. I work with a Rossie who said we'd be doing very well to get him. Very highly thought of in Brigids where he was seen as being the brains behind McStay. 
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on October 11, 2014, 10:27:23 AM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on October 10, 2014, 01:42:57 PM
McHale managed a club close to where I live, didn't really deliver much in his time  there. They subsequently improved in the years after he was gone. Also, the reason McStay didn't get the Mayo just was a lot to do with unrest in the Mayo player camp about McHale, many Mayo players did not want him I am told.

They didn't want him becuse he made some comments in the local paper in Mayo about a few players after a game.. He writes a column in  local paper in the Mayo and  few players didn't like what they read,
thats not going to make  a difference in Cavan

He is currently managing Brigids so will be interesting to see how they get on in Connacht shoud they win Roscommon yet again
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on October 11, 2014, 01:09:39 PM
Anyone know who from last years u21 team are still U21 for 2015? Is Enda Hessian u21 again. What about a 5 in a row.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: beer baron on October 11, 2014, 01:17:39 PM
Enda turned 21 over the summer so he'll not be eligible anyway.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on October 11, 2014, 01:25:13 PM
CAVAN: J Farrelly; B Fortune, K Clarke, P Faulkner; G Smith, C Moynagh, C Brady; L Buchanan, M Argue; P Graham, E Flanagan, A Watson; D McVeety, T Hayes, J Dillion. Subs: A O'Hara for C Moynagh (23), K Bouchier for J Dillion (Black Card, 46), C Moynagh for B Fortune (49), C Byrne for E Flanagan (51), E Hessin for P Graham (55), G McGovern for L Buchanan (61).

Those players are eligible in 2015,  Conor Madden, Ryan Connolly,Greg McGovern,  among others should be in be around the team too
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on October 11, 2014, 02:47:51 PM
With Conor Madden, Tom Hayes, Ryan Connolly, Liam Galligan there seems to be some good options in the full forward line for next year. Hopefully some good leaders will emerge as we won't have Moynagh or Clarke for the first time in 3 years.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mrdeeds on October 11, 2014, 03:27:15 PM
Fergal Reilly too.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on October 11, 2014, 03:34:02 PM
Reilly was unlucky not to be starting this year, great corner back, played well with the Juniors.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on October 12, 2014, 11:39:34 PM
So Gaels sneak the final thanks in no small way to a very harsh sending off for Faulkner of Kingscourt. Can't see them do anything in Ulster.

Seems McHale and David Downes into the back room staff and also Eoin Maguire for strength and conditioning. Anyone know anything about Eoin Maguire?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on October 13, 2014, 12:05:55 AM
Kevin Downes...

Maguire works with NADA , National Athlete Development Academy in Dublin. Plays club with st brigids in dublin

Mchale should be a good addition, downes has experience of being involved with London coaching and playing..
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: orangeman on October 13, 2014, 09:42:57 AM
Reading reports of the final it must have been a thriller.

Seanie did the business. Thank God he packed the hurling in.  ;)

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on October 13, 2014, 10:03:23 AM
Cavan Gaels are away to the Derry champions now, tough task.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mrdeeds on October 13, 2014, 01:51:13 PM
Massive achievement  for Joe McQuillan. A senior championship title with Gaels to add to his All Ireland for Dublin.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on October 13, 2014, 03:14:06 PM
Best of luck to McHale, Downes, Maguire. I hope it works out well. As for the county final, bit of a sickener for Kingscourt. Hopefully we can get Barry Reilly back into the county set up, great talent.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mrdeeds on October 13, 2014, 04:28:15 PM
He is a great talent Myles but lacks pace maybe? Maybe he has pace put plays casually.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on October 13, 2014, 08:56:41 PM
Quote from: mrdeeds on October 13, 2014, 04:28:15 PM
He is a great talent Myles but lacks pace maybe? Maybe he has pace put plays casually.

He can kick frees which is something that nobody else on this years  panel can do.

Worth a spot for that alone.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on October 13, 2014, 09:00:00 PM
Report from the MacRory game last week

October 9, 2014

St Patrick's Cavan 1-12 St Eunan's Letterkenny 1-9

A GOAL in the 40th minute sorted out the first points of the Danske Bank MacRory Cup league in Drumragh yesterday.

It came from a good move from Cavan with substitute Shane Fortune playing a super ball in for Brian Sheanon to shoot to the net from close range.

After it however, Cavan seemed to lose their way a little and St Eunan's came back to within a point with two minutes remaining.

Letterkenny then had an opportunity to score an equaliser from a free but took too long over it and from the resultant throw-in, Cavan broke and Paul Leddy found the range. With Pearse Smyth adding another point in injury time, the Donegal boys were left disappointed.

The star of the show from a Cavan point of view was Thomas Edward Donohue with three excellent first half points and another after the break.

Those first half efforts came in response to a goal from Caolan McDaid in the 14th minute and helped Cavan edge ahead 0-6 to 1-2 at the break.

David Tyrell tied the scores with a free on the resumption, only for Sheanon's goal to split them again. Despite Tyrell's accuracy from frees – he bagged six over the hour – it was to be a turnover from one not taken quickly enough that ultimately denied his team a share of the spoils.

St Patrick's Cavan : Brian Sheanon 1-1, Thomas Edward Donohue 0-4, Ben Conaty 0-2, Thomas Galligan 0-1, Barry McKernan 0-1 free,  Dara Kennedy 0-1, Paul Leddy 0-1, Pearse Smyth 0-1.

St Eunan's : Caolan McDaid 1-1, David Tyrell 0-6 frees, Michael Millan 0-1, Rory Carr 0-1.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on October 13, 2014, 10:47:14 PM
Quote from: tommysmith on October 13, 2014, 08:56:41 PM
Quote from: mrdeeds on October 13, 2014, 04:28:15 PM
He is a great talent Myles but lacks pace maybe? Maybe he has pace put plays casually.

He can kick frees which is something that nobody else on this years  panel can do.

Worth a spot for that alone.

McDermott isn't a bad free taker from the right?

Was the Gaels Kingscourt game shown on TG4?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on October 14, 2014, 08:33:49 AM
Quote from: Westside on October 13, 2014, 10:47:14 PM
Quote from: tommysmith on October 13, 2014, 08:56:41 PM
Quote from: mrdeeds on October 13, 2014, 04:28:15 PM
He is a great talent Myles but lacks pace maybe? Maybe he has pace put plays casually.

He can kick frees which is something that nobody else on this years  panel can do.

Worth a spot for that alone.

McDermott isn't a bad free taker from the right?

Was the Gaels Kingscourt game shown on TG4?


True but from distance, 45,+metres I would have my money on BR.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on October 14, 2014, 11:17:43 PM
I haven't seen much of Reilly at Club level but at U21 he was top notch. Nailed one from the sideline 45 metres out in the first few minutes of the 2011 Ulster Final as I recall.

Good to see Hyland come out and explain the addition of McHale, he's publicly acknowledged that our style needs to progress and that he's trying to freshen things up in the management team. Good self awareness. Would a stay in Division 2 and an Ulster Final appearance give Terry another year?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on October 14, 2014, 11:24:37 PM
He has a deal until 2016, so I would say so yeah.

Barry Reilly had some falling out with the management hence why he wasn't on the panel this year. He needs to get stronger aswell for Senior County football, enough light players on the panel.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: five points on October 15, 2014, 10:31:10 AM
Quote from: Westside on October 14, 2014, 11:17:43 PM
Would a stay in Division 2 and an Ulster Final appearance give Terry another year?

Staying in Division 2 is hardly the be-all and end-all. Armagh didnt manage it this year but they had a great year all round.

This year we concentrated too much on the league and maybe lost sight of the bigger picture of the championship.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on October 15, 2014, 11:42:10 AM
It was important for the Development of the team to get promoted from Divison 3 this year. Cavan had been in Div 3 since 08 I think?

The Championship preperations were disrupted with numerous injury doubts before the Armagh game, aswell as Killian Clarke gone to the US and Ronan Flanagan gone travelling.

Mchale should have a good input into a more attacking game plan next year.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on October 15, 2014, 04:33:05 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on October 14, 2014, 11:24:37 PM
He has a deal until 2016, so I would say so yeah.

Barry Reilly had some falling out with the management hence why he wasn't on the panel this year. He needs to get stronger aswell for Senior County football, enough light players on the panel.

That's not true. Barry Reilly couldn't commit due to work.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on October 15, 2014, 04:46:57 PM
Quote from: Itchy on October 15, 2014, 04:33:05 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on October 14, 2014, 11:24:37 PM
He has a deal until 2016, so I would say so yeah.

Barry Reilly had some falling out with the management hence why he wasn't on the panel this year. He needs to get stronger aswell for Senior County football, enough light players on the panel.

That's not true. Barry Reilly couldn't commit due to work.

Thats what I thought myself, heard different but who knows.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on October 16, 2014, 12:11:50 AM
I see Martin Dunne has tweeted about how great it is to end 2014 on a high of winning the Championship. Didn't strike me as the words of the captain of a team who believed they would progressing in Ulster..
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Blue in hope on October 16, 2014, 06:16:26 PM
Anyone hear anything about a dodgy draw run by a club in Cavan that is been investigated by the County Board and the Gardai?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on October 17, 2014, 10:13:42 PM
I hear Peter Canavan won the lotto!

Drumalee beat Redhills by 1 point today sending them back to intermediate.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on October 17, 2014, 10:16:10 PM
Minor Championship final tomorrow, Southern Gaels and Ramor, hopefully revenge for the League final defeat.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on October 18, 2014, 12:01:52 AM
Are Ramor the new Cavan Gaels? Seem to be churning out quality underage teams consistently in the past few years.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on October 18, 2014, 11:41:04 AM
Very tough draw for the U21s this year away to Donegal. Donegal will feel they owe us a beating and then even if we get by them I expect we will have Monaghan who will also feel they owe us one. Some real leaders have left the team from last year and it will be interesting to see who can fill those central roles in the team.

Can Faulkner be our new full back? Ciaran Brady could by a very good ctr half back, Argue & Buchanan in the middle. Less clear who will be the leaders in the forwards. Can Conor Madden get it together and be the player he threatens to be. Tom Hayes is a potential star and Ryan Connolly has showed some flashes of pure brilliance which we can only hope the management can harness so he re produces it when it matters. No doubt a few other lads will show well in the Hastings cup and stake a claim.

A five in a row would be an unbelievable achievement but I feel last years team was our best chance at the All Ireland. Anyway, the important thing is we keep developing top quality players at this level for the senior team.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on October 18, 2014, 11:49:19 AM
Leaders left in 2011 and were replaced, 
A good spine of the this year's team is still there so wouldn't be getting too concerned about the Leader role. A few players were unlucky not to be starting this year like Fergal Reilly, one of the top club corner backs  in the County. Conor Madden too, will be out to make an impression no doubt.

Donegal will feel they owe Cavan one, probaly should have won the Ulster final this year.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on October 18, 2014, 12:13:09 PM
The Holla for Captain!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on October 19, 2014, 02:56:44 PM
Quote from: Westside on October 18, 2014, 12:01:52 AM
Are Ramor the new Cavan Gaels? Seem to be churning out quality underage teams consistently in the past few years.

Not a big surprise, big population in Virginia.

Great win for Southern Gaels.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on October 19, 2014, 04:52:14 PM
Well done Cootehill beating Roger Casements 0-13 to 1-5 in Breffni this evening.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Tomsmithson on October 21, 2014, 03:33:52 PM
With the McKenna Cup coming after Xmas should terry and liam bring the players away on a 5 day bonding trip around near lough Erne where jimmy mc Guinness brought the donegal lads.? I feel he should. It would be great for our young lads to no they were sleeping in the same bed as Micky murphy or colin mc fadden or the p***k molloy. Maybe terry could have jimmys old room?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mrdeeds on October 21, 2014, 04:42:05 PM
You better not be tomsmith from hoganstand. If you are go back there. This is a serious forum not like that childish crap and no place for a WUM.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Tomsmithson on October 21, 2014, 05:17:00 PM
Quote from: mrdeeds on October 13, 2014, 01:51:13 PM
Massive achievement  for Joe McQuillan. A senior championship title with Gaels to add to his All Ireland for Dublin.
.        A serious forum????? With comments like that? Who the hell do you think you are to tell me where to go?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on October 21, 2014, 11:00:17 PM
Quote from: Tomsmithson on October 21, 2014, 05:17:00 PM
Quote from: mrdeeds on October 13, 2014, 01:51:13 PM
Massive achievement  for Joe McQuillan. A senior championship title with Gaels to add to his All Ireland for Dublin.
.        A serious forum????? With comments like that? Who the hell do you think you are to tell me where to go?

You come out with the The "p**ck Molloy",and you're talking about Mr deeds comment.
None of us believe for one second you're a Gaels clubman either.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on October 22, 2014, 01:23:56 AM
That sad, attention-seeking tomsmith character tried his particular line of see-through drivel in here before, was roundly ignored and slunk away back to the other place where the chattering imbeciles could never resist replying and validating his existence by jumping up and down over every hare-brained thing he posted. He died a death here in two weeks but presumably is still going strong over there, tells you all you need to know. I don't know who this latest chap but if it's him, just don't give him the oxygen.

Elsewhere, I'm more positive about the season ahead with McHale on board. It at least points to a general awareness of the previous approach having taken us as far as it could. Tactically it wasn't working and to my mind, some players were no longer buying into it since the league final and things were in danger of going backwards but this should be a shot in the arm. Maybe the loss of Donnelly was planned or instigated by Terry, who knows? Anyway, looking forward to January to see how it all pans out.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Tomsmithson on October 22, 2014, 08:41:12 AM
I wonder how we posters can help Liam and Terry get promotion next year. I think that if we call came up with a idea then the management could pick the best 1. Maybe offer a prize for the winning idea. I will get the ball rolling . My idea would be to have 4 divisional teams without county players. Terry could manage 1 liam another anthony 1 as well and maybe Steven king could take 1 also. This could happen in a few weeks and it's a great way of spotting talent. My own club Cavan Gaels are willing to take part with our neighbours drumalee and killygarry and butlersbridge and Ballinagh . What is your idea for helping liam and terry? Is it a good enough idea to be considered for first prize? Let's here the ideas keep them coming
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Tomsmithson on October 22, 2014, 09:17:39 AM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on October 21, 2014, 11:00:17 PM
Quote from: Tomsmithson on October 21, 2014, 05:17:00 PM
Quote from: mrdeeds on October 13, 2014, 01:51:13 PM
Massive achievement  for Joe McQuillan. A senior championship title with Gaels to add to his All Ireland for Dublin.
.        A serious forum????? With comments like that? Who the hell do you think you are to tell me where to go?

You come out with the The "p**ck Molloy",and you're talking about Mr deeds comment.
None of us believe for one second you're a Gaels clubman either.                                                                                                                                       I ment to write the brick Molloy . Did you no the brick molloys father was called the block molloy? Yous are quick to critise but I don't see any of yous offering liam and Terry any help. I think terry brought liam in . Hope liam can pick up mickey lyng for training on a Tuesday and Thursday nite in Mayo and maybe drop he back too. And other lads around collage in Sligo could travel with liam too.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: comeysfield on October 22, 2014, 10:11:42 AM
Son, Just Please Go Away
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Tomsmithson on October 22, 2014, 10:16:13 AM
Quote from: comeysfield on October 22, 2014, 10:11:42 AM
Son, Just Please Go Away
try and add something constructive when you post.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mrdeeds on October 22, 2014, 10:20:11 AM
I see he's done the whole christmas party on main page. How long till he starts withbwe should set up a panel to pick the senior team and his discovery of David Givney. WUM of the highest order.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Tomsmithson on October 22, 2014, 11:23:06 AM
The divisional round robin is the way forward I think. We could play it in a while of a day say up the barrack hill. 4 teams 3 games. Unearth some new talent and away to Donals for a few pints after. Donal would always trow up a bowel of stew and it would be a chance for genuine supporters to meat with Liam and Terry.   Maybe a suggestion box on the counter for things we would like to see done in the future or players that should get a spin out with the seniors. All cash collected could go towards bonding weekends . I no times are tite .
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: comeysfield on October 22, 2014, 01:22:29 PM
Quote from: Tomsmithson on October 22, 2014, 10:16:13 AM
Quote from: comeysfield on October 22, 2014, 10:11:42 AM
Son, Just Please Go Away
try and add something constructive when you post.

WUM: This stands for Wind Up Merchant, just taking the opportunity to constructively point this out   
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on October 22, 2014, 06:10:20 PM
It's really hard to know what to expect from the coming year. To an extent we will once again become somewhat of an unknown quantity which will be a good thing. We will probably come out of our shells a bit more. I'd like to see us develop more hard runners, men off the shoulder breaking tackles.

At least now we know the best players in the county are around the panel, a few years ago there was little difference between the good club players and the county panel. Now the county players for the most part are really standing out in the club championship. I also think some difficult choices need to be made regarding Givney, Keating and possibly Gearoid and their places within the team.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on October 22, 2014, 06:39:59 PM
A good run by the Clubs in Ulster would be a boost ahead of 2015.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on October 22, 2014, 10:17:56 PM
Quote from: Westside on October 22, 2014, 06:10:20 PM
It's really hard to know what to expect from the coming year. To an extent we will once again become somewhat of an unknown quantity which will be a good thing. We will probably come out of our shells a bit more. I'd like to see us develop more hard runners, men off the shoulder breaking tackles.

At least now we know the best players in the county are around the panel, a few years ago there was little difference between the good club players and the county panel. Now the county players for the most part are really standing out in the club championship. I also think some difficult choices need to be made regarding Givney, Keating and possibly Gearoid and their places within the team.

I get the feeling that some of the players you have mentioned are starting to believe the hype. Its not that long ago we had some average footballer swaning around the place like they were gods gift. We got rid of that when Terry came along and although I am not accusing these 3 players of that, it is worth noting that what they did in 2013 is now old news and a big effort is needed again from them. I'm not convinced on McHale and the more I hear in the west the less I like but he is there now so good luck to him. I hope he can bring the change in style we need.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mrdeeds on October 22, 2014, 10:20:22 PM
No Gaels player nominated for senior player of year.

http://cavangaa.ie/cavan-gaa-awards-night-2014/
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on October 23, 2014, 04:03:27 PM
Unusual for a winning team not to even have a player selected. Declan Meehan was very good for the Gaels throughout the Championship.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: comeysfield on October 23, 2014, 05:39:06 PM
Very Surprised no Gaels man in the senior player Seamus Clarke is a decent lad but how he is there ahead of even Johnston or Meehan is a surprise. Would think Hessin  is an absolute shoe in at Intermediate with Morris my pick at Junior
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on October 24, 2014, 05:09:48 PM
Mchale had a big say' in Kilmurray reaching the All Ireland club final in 2010, the first club from Clare to do so, and a big role in St Brigids winning the All Ireland in 2012,
It must have a while ago when he had this poor spell as club manager in the west,  because he has been no 2 for a good while, and doing well at it.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Western Blue on October 24, 2014, 07:26:59 PM
The word in Mayo is that the players wanted nothing to do with Liam McHale. He was very outspoken about the 2014 players on local radio down here and on Off the Ball. I think Terry must have had a word a word with Michael McDermott who is from Kill/Coothill and who managed Clare and Kilmurray with McHale as his no 2.   Hopefully he will bring something to the table? Will he get along with Anthony Forde .will he have a say with team selections too?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on October 24, 2014, 07:47:23 PM
He writes for a local paper in Mayo, probaly had to give an honest opinion, then sit on the fence,. After some of the errors by Mayo againstkerry , hard to avoid them,


Yeah Forde and mchale would have strong opinions
Doubt Mchale would have any say in selection, Dolan ,Forde and kevin Downes are selectors. Mchale should be a good addition though with his coaching skills,  westmeath were very disappointed they didn't get him.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on October 25, 2014, 03:37:59 PM
Rodney. Where are you getting your info on McHale? I've been speaking to 4 people from 2 clubs he was involved with. All said he was a gentleman, a great player but not a top coach. I'll spare you the examples they gave me. I hope he succeeds, I really do but I think  this stuff about him being a revolutionary figure in Cavan is a tad over the top. Mayo also let him go for whatever reason, if he was as good as some think surely those things could have been overcome.That said I wish him well.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on October 25, 2014, 04:28:50 PM
The info on Mchale? A few newpaper articles at the time of those clubs being successful Also a few posters from Mayo on Hoganstand cavan page were full of praise

I thought you said it was just one club in the west,  either way he is just the coach at Cavan and not manager where he didn't seem to have success at those clu you are referring too
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on October 26, 2014, 09:45:57 AM
Quote from: rodney trotter on October 25, 2014, 04:28:50 PM
The info on Mchale? A few newpaper articles at the time of those clubs being successful Also a few posters from Mayo on Hoganstand cavan page were full of praise

I thought you said it was just one club in the west,  either way he is just the coach at Cavan and not manager where he didn't seem to have success at those clu you are referring too

At time of first post it was one club, now its two.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on October 26, 2014, 10:29:48 PM
I see Cavan are in the over 40s Shield Final against Tyrone.. Any former Cavan players on the team?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mrdeeds on October 26, 2014, 10:37:38 PM
Cavan junior b semi final friday night referee played 28 mins. Two managers showed him that two minutes left but ref refused to play last two minutes and called a draw. Disgrace.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: comeysfield on October 28, 2014, 09:53:56 AM
who was in the semi and who was the ref
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mrdeeds on October 28, 2014, 03:03:41 PM
Kingscourt and Ramor. Raymond Kelly referee. Replay probably tomorrow and final Saturday.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: S.Poacher2012 on October 29, 2014, 11:47:27 AM
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Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on November 02, 2014, 10:28:30 AM
Good luck to both Arva and Cootehill today 2 wins would be fantastic and a big boost for Cavan club football.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on November 02, 2014, 11:26:48 AM
The great work continues at under age.

There was  coaching the past week for children 8-12 at the 3G .

It's just a pity that nobody told the clubs/schools. The first day was cancelled and the second had a record 13 attend.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on November 02, 2014, 12:02:12 PM
Quote from: tommysmith on November 02, 2014, 11:26:48 AM
The great work continues at under age.

There was  coaching the past week for children 8-12 at the 3G .

It's just a pity that nobody told the clubs/schools. The first day was cancelled and the second had a record 13 attend.

Who is in charge of organising this?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on November 02, 2014, 02:23:22 PM
Cootehill 3 up with five minutes to go and lost by a point. Let's hope Arvagh can do better.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on November 02, 2014, 03:52:33 PM
They can't, lost by 3.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on November 02, 2014, 04:11:59 PM
Its depressing how poorly our club teams do in Ulster, it really is. I thought these two could go well.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on November 02, 2014, 04:31:01 PM
Crosmaglen and Gall's both knocked out of Ulster Senior Championship, still can't see the Gaels going anywhere though. It's depressing surely.. Especially today's results considering both teams were in commanding positions midway through the second half.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on November 02, 2014, 07:49:18 PM
Cootehill only got 6 scores, 1-5, so that wasn't going to win many games. Arva flattered to deceive too, a lot expected both teams to do well in Ulster, but Ulster is still a big step up from Club football in Cavan.

Gaels away next week in Derry. Slaughtneill will be hard bet up there, and full of confidence after the Co final win against the reigning champions Ballinderry.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on November 02, 2014, 08:38:08 PM
Given that they barely beat Kingscourt despite having an extra man for the whole game I seriously doubt they will get any result in Derry.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: big balla on November 03, 2014, 10:23:05 PM
There are too many clubs playing senior in Cavan, that is why we will always struggle in Ulster in Junior and Intermediate.The more clubs that are playing Senior, the weaker the Intermediate will be. Most sports have a number of divisions but the majority are playing in the lower levels with only the elite playing at the top, like a pyramid.Every well run sport operates more or less in this way, be it boxing, cycling, soccer, whatever.In Cavan we have nearly as many playing Senior as we have Junior and Intermediate combined! Its totally upside down. Are we expected to believe that there are more teams of Senior standard in Cavan than of Junior standard?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: North Longford on November 05, 2014, 04:42:20 AM
There's a definite problem with this in Cavan. When junior clubs don't want to be seen to be in Div. 4 so Div 1b has to be created you can see what the mentality is. And now you regularly here lads in Div 1b teams just referring to being in Div 1....its not really you know. It seems important how your team is perceived as opposed to how good it actually is.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: CC1 on November 05, 2014, 10:53:06 AM
On the league structure:

There should be five divisions of eight teams in Cavan in my opinion. That is fourteen league games, home and away over the course of a season. With smaller divisions it gives the clubs more of an opportunity to play at their own level which would leave it far more competitive. Simple structure with one automatic promotion (first place) and promotion/relegation play off (i.e. second in Division 4 against second from bottom in Division 3, winner promoted/avoiding relegation).

Top two play in a final for the cup or to do away with finals altogether and crown the first placed team as champions.

On the championship structure:
I think the current intermediate structure is ideal, junior isn't bad either however I think there should be a few more teams at that level and senior should be limited to about 12 teams (at most) as its current structure is a joke in my opinion. 12 teams in senior, 14 in intermediate, and 14 in junior.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on November 09, 2014, 11:11:17 AM
Best luck to Cavan Gaels today.  They've had a good break since the county final and hopefully Canavan's experience will help.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on November 09, 2014, 01:23:54 PM
Good luck to the Gaels. But then you make your own luck in Cavan Gaels don't you.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on November 09, 2014, 02:14:41 PM
Was at West Cavan Gaels v Assan Gaels last night. Dogged enough affair, West Cavan won but should have it closed out earlier. For West Cavan Niall Walsh was the stand out player, Fergal Donohoe Benjamin Kelly and Liam Galligan all played well.

Hope the Gaels can get a result today but from the way Dunne talked about the end of the year after the County Final and Johnston talking about this being "bonus territory" it doesn't seem like they believe it themselves.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on November 09, 2014, 06:11:30 PM
I've always cheered on Cavans representative in Ulster but this year I am not too bothered to see them go out. That club needs to sort themselves out.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on November 10, 2014, 12:19:19 AM
Johnston missed a 30 metre free to level the game in injury time?...
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on November 10, 2014, 09:41:50 AM
Quote from: Westside on November 09, 2014, 02:14:41 PM
Was at West Cavan Gaels v Assan Gaels last night. Dogged enough affair, West Cavan won but should have it closed out earlier. For West Cavan Niall Walsh was the stand out player, Fergal Donohoe Benjamin Kelly and Liam Galligan all played well.

Hope the Gaels can get a result today but from the way Dunne talked about the end of the year after the County Final and Johnston talking about this being "bonus territory" it doesn't seem like they believe it themselves.

It must have been pretty dogged with 8 clubs involved among the 2 amalgamations.

West Cavan with 5 clubs is OTT.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Blue in hope on November 10, 2014, 10:03:54 AM
Travelled up  to Derry yesterday. Gaels left that game behind them. I wouldn't rate Canavan as a manager. Listing to people in the ground beforehand they all spoke of no Gaels midfield and if Slaughneil pushed up they would cause problems. It was not a surprise that this happened as it was clear to see all through the Cavan championship. What was shocking to see that when this happened the management did nothing about it until half time. They should have been a lot further behind at this stage only for poor shooting by Slaughneil.
They completable took over the second half and could easily have won it. They held their opponents to just 2 points in the second half the last one was the last kick of the game. The one before was very dodgy as the linesman came in and argued the ball had gone wide.
I don't believe at the end of the year that the manager knows his best starting 15 and that came back to haunt him yesterday.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on November 10, 2014, 12:02:10 PM
Bradley was dominant in midfield in the first half, Gaels might be a better footballing team but not the same physicalliyy as Slaughtneill. The Gaels had probaly a better football team then Glenswilly in 2011 as well, they had a few huge players like Gallagher and Murphy who the made the difference.

Need more then pace to win in Ulster Club.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Blue in hope on November 10, 2014, 12:19:23 PM
Bradley was dominant in midfield in the first half, Gaels might be a better footballing team but not the same physicalliyy as Slaughtneill. The Gaels had probaly a better football team then Glenswilly in 2011 as well, they had a few huge players like Gallagher and Murphy who the made the difference.

Need more then pace to win in Ulster Club.

Pace and running at them would have won yesterday. The sideline cost the match yesterday. The starting 15 and taking until half time to change what everyone knew all year was a wrong was incredible. How can the manager go on Sky as an top annalist and let what happened yesterday happen.???
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on November 10, 2014, 12:24:36 PM
Quote from: Thastheball on November 10, 2014, 12:17:55 PM
Bradley was not dominate, his partner Mc Guigan was more effective. Our second half proved we were more then capable of competing with them , but if you don't put on your best players your asking for trouble, and also we have to be honest and say we didn't play the first half with any self belief. S'neil were allowed to do what they wanted in the first half with very little intensity coming from us, and thats our problem. S'neil did just about enought o win and over the game was the better team, but we finished with a better team than we started, why?

Second half yeah the Gaels did come out fighting but there had to something as there nothing in the first half, Slaughtneil didn't seem to have the same intensity in the second half?
Martin Dunne scored 4-5 against Lacken a few weeks ago yet he  didn't start, although he was poor when he came on dropping ball and going for hollywood points.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on November 10, 2014, 12:28:35 PM
Quote from: Blue in hope on November 10, 2014, 12:19:23 PM
Bradley was dominant in midfield in the first half, Gaels might be a better footballing team but not the same physicalliyy as Slaughtneill. The Gaels had probaly a better football team then Glenswilly in 2011 as well, they had a few huge players like Gallagher and Murphy who the made the difference.

Need more then pace to win in Ulster Club.

Pace and running at them would have won yesterday. The sideline cost the match yesterday. The starting 15 and taking until half time to change what everyone knew all year was a wrong was incredible. How can the manager go on Sky as an top annalist and let what happened yesterday happen.???

For the money Canavan is getting an Ulster title should have a been a real target considering the teams who have exited t he competition

But I saw the Gaels struggle with teams in the Cavan championshiop this year, and that had nothing to do with pace and runnig at them. Too many light players.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Blue in hope on November 10, 2014, 12:48:21 PM
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Bradley was dominant in midfield in the first half, Gaels might be a better footballing team but not the same physicalliyy as Slaughtneill. The Gaels had probaly a better football team then Glenswilly in 2011 as well, they had a few huge players like Gallagher and Murphy who the made the difference.

Need more then pace to win in Ulster Club.

Pace and running at them would have won yesterday. The sideline cost the match yesterday. The starting 15 and taking until half time to change what everyone knew all year was a wrong was incredible. How can the manager go on Sky as an top annalist and let what happened yesterday happen.???

For the money Canavan is getting an Ulster title should have a been a real target considering the teams who have exited t he competition

But I saw the Gaels struggle with teams in the Cavan championshiop this year, and that had nothing to do with pace and runnig at them. Too many light players.

The Gaels never played their best 15 any time throughout the Championship. When they ran at pace they caused problems. The first minute in the final when Murray ran straight through the middle of the defence James Farrelly pulled of  a great save been an example.  I was talking to a Lacken player after the drawn march and he couldn't believe Maloney -Derham,Johnston,Dunne didn't start.
Not knowing your best 15 players does give the team confidence. They struggled by slowing down the ball and allowed teams to get 13 men behind the ball when they should have run and moved the ball at pace. I have always admired Mickey Lyng as a footballer but yesterday again he slowed everything down looking for the perfect pass. Nearly every free kick he took went backwards. The Gaels supporters in the stand were shouting in frustration. When they moved at speed they won a lot of frees for been taken down- Maloney Derham in the first half yesterday was going through on goal and was pulled down by the last man!   
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on November 10, 2014, 12:48:59 PM
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Quote from: Westside on November 09, 2014, 02:14:41 PM
Was at West Cavan Gaels v Assan Gaels last night. Dogged enough affair, West Cavan won but should have it closed out earlier. For West Cavan Niall Walsh was the stand out player, Fergal Donohoe Benjamin Kelly and Liam Galligan all played well.

Hope the Gaels can get a result today but from the way Dunne talked about the end of the year after the County Final and Johnston talking about this being "bonus territory" it doesn't seem like they believe it themselves.

5 is a bit much all right but to be fair Swad only have 1 on the panel.
It must have been pretty dogged with 8 clubs involved among the 2 amalgamations.



5 is a bit much all right but Swad only have 1 on the panel.
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Bradley was dominant in midfield in the first half, Gaels might be a better footballing team but not the same physicalliyy as Slaughtneill. The Gaels had probaly a better football team then Glenswilly in 2011 as well, they had a few huge players like Gallagher and Murphy who the made the difference.

Need more then pace to win in Ulster Club.

Pace and running at them would have won yesterday. The sideline cost the match yesterday. The starting 15 and taking until half time to change what everyone knew all year was a wrong was incredible. How can the manager go on Sky as an top annalist and let what happened yesterday happen.???

For the money Canavan is getting an Ulster title should have a been a real target considering the teams who have exited t he competition

But I saw the Gaels struggle with teams in the Cavan championshiop this year, and that had nothing to do with pace and runnig at them. Too many light players.

The Gaels never played their best 15 any time throughout the Championship. When they ran at pace they caused problems. The first minute in the final when Murray ran straight through the middle of the defence James Farrelly pulled of  a great save been an example.  I was talking to a Lacken player after the drawn march and he couldn't believe Maloney -Derham,Johnston,Dunne didn't start.
Not knowing your best 15 players does give the team confidence. They struggled by slowing down the ball and allowed teams to get 13 men behind the ball when they should have run and moved the ball at pace. I have always admired Mickey Lyng as a footballer but yesterday again he slowed everything down looking for the perfect pass. Nearly every free kick he took went backwards. The Gaels supporters in the stand were shouting in frustration. When they moved at speed they won a lot of frees for been taken down- Maloney Derham in the first half yesterday was going through on goal and was pulled down by the last man!

Johnston didn't start any game in the chamionship up to te Semi final so was no surprise he didn't start against Lacken. Also Martin Dunne missed practically all of the championship, again no surprise he didnt start against Lacken

Cavan Gaels: M Cassidy, N Gurhy, J Fortune, N Murray (0-01), B Fortune, E Reilly, L Murphy, D Reilly, R Maloney Derham, D Meehan (0-01, f), M Lyng, D Graham, S Johnston (0-06, 5f), V Coyle, C McClary. Subs: M Dunne for McClary, N Smith for Coyle, P Graham (0-1) for D Graham, A Graham for Meehan.

Team that played yesterday. all 6 forwards have played Co Senior or under age football, i don't really get that not playing the best team, Gaels have the strongest panel in the County,

No doubt Dunne would have been starting if they thought he was fully fit, obviously not
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Bradley was dominant in midfield in the first half, Gaels might be a better footballing team but not the same physicalliyy as Slaughtneill. The Gaels had probaly a better football team then Glenswilly in 2011 as well, they had a few huge players like Gallagher and Murphy who the made the difference.

Need more then pace to win in Ulster Club.

Pace and running at them would have won yesterday. The sideline cost the match yesterday. The starting 15 and taking until half time to change what everyone knew all year was a wrong was incredible. How can the manager go on Sky as an top annalist and let what happened yesterday happen.???

For the money Canavan is getting an Ulster title should have a been a real target considering the teams who have exited t he competition

But I saw the Gaels struggle with teams in the Cavan championshiop this year, and that had nothing to do with pace and runnig at them. Too many light players.

The Gaels never played their best 15 any time throughout the Championship. When they ran at pace they caused problems. The first minute in the final when Murray ran straight through the middle of the defence James Farrelly pulled of  a great save been an example.  I was talking to a Lacken player after the drawn march and he couldn't believe Maloney -Derham,Johnston,Dunne didn't start.
Not knowing your best 15 players does give the team confidence. They struggled by slowing down the ball and allowed teams to get 13 men behind the ball when they should have run and moved the ball at pace. I have always admired Mickey Lyng as a footballer but yesterday again he slowed everything down looking for the perfect pass. Nearly every free kick he took went backwards. The Gaels supporters in the stand were shouting in frustration. When they moved at speed they won a lot of frees for been taken down- Maloney Derham in the first half yesterday was going through on goal and was pulled down by the last man!

Johnston didn't start any game in the chamionship up to te Semi final so was no surprise he didn't start against Lacken. Also Martin Dunne missed practically all of the championship, again no surprise he didnt start against Lacken

Cavan Gaels: M Cassidy, N Gurhy, J Fortune, N Murray (0-01), B Fortune, E Reilly, L Murphy, D Reilly, R Maloney Derham, D Meehan (0-01, f), M Lyng, D Graham, S Johnston (0-06, 5f), V Coyle, C McClary. Subs: M Dunne for McClary, N Smith for Coyle, P Graham (0-1) for D Graham, A Graham for Meehan.

Team that played yesterday. all 6 forwards have played Co Senior or under age football, i don't really get that not playing the best team, Gaels have the strongest panel in the County,

No doubt Dunne would have been starting if they thought he was fully fit, obviously not


Point is he should have started against Lacken. If he is fir enough to be on bench then he is fit enough to play as he showed when he came on. Same with Dunne yesterday he played a full game two weeks earlier against Lacken scoring 4-5 so he was fit . Paul O Connor on the bench barely used in the championship,Kevin Meehan  very good against Lacken two weeks ago not used. Maloney needs a partner in midfield and this has been ignored all year which is causing all sorts of problems with kickouts. This was the biggest cause for them losing yesterday.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on November 10, 2014, 01:58:50 PM
There is still a difference in making an impact from the bench and being fully fit to start.Same way as Cian Mackey came on against Armagh in the championship this year, he made an impact but cleary not fully fit and not being fully fit since.

Paul O Connor was starting for the Gaels in champioship, but got injured 10 minutes into the drawn Quarter final with Lacken and missed the rest of the championship.

Dunne probaly should have started, getting 4-5 is a big tally, but maybe it wasn't enough, a league game in Cavan still a difference to Ulster Club.
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There is still a difference in making an impact from the bench and being fully fit to start.Same way as Cian Mackey came on against Armagh in the championship this year, he made an impact but cleary not fully fit and not being fully fit since.

Paul O Connor was starting for the Gaels in champioship, but got injured 10 minutes into the drawn Quarter final with Lacken and missed the rest of the championship.

Dunne probaly should have started, getting 4-5 is a big tally, but maybe it wasn't enough, a league game in Cavan still a difference to Ulster Club.


Paul O Connor wasn't started in the championship he was on the bench for the Gowna game. He only came on in the second half. He wasn't injured or coming back from injury either just not picked.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on November 10, 2014, 02:40:03 PM
Fair enough, but that was just the 1 game. He started against Lacken and missed the rest though injury, I watched him against Louth and Longford in the Leinster Junior and he was poor to be honest.  That would have been around the time of the Gowna game
He had a good game in the first round against Wexord.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: big balla on November 10, 2014, 06:40:09 PM
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Quote from: Blue in hope on November 10, 2014, 12:19:23 PM
Bradley was dominant in midfield in the first half, Gaels might be a better footballing team but not the same physicalliyy as Slaughtneill. The Gaels had probaly a better football team then Glenswilly in 2011 as well, they had a few huge players like Gallagher and Murphy who the made the difference.

Need more then pace to win in Ulster Club.

Pace and running at them would have won yesterday. The sideline cost the match yesterday. The starting 15 and taking until half time to change what everyone knew all year was a wrong was incredible. How can the manager go on Sky as an top annalist and let what happened yesterday happen.???

For the money Canavan is getting an Ulster title should have a been a real target considering the teams who have exited t he competition

But I saw the Gaels struggle with teams in the Cavan championshiop this year, and that had nothing to do with pace and runnig at them. Too many light players.

He can't buy an Ulster with his wages!  There is always an excuse when the Gaels go out in Ulster, ref robbed us, manager hasnt a clue, etc. We just have to accept that Cavan club football isnt at a very higher standard when compared to the rest of Ulster, and the Gaels just arent good enough to win it, lord knows they have had enough chances at it in the last ten years.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on November 10, 2014, 08:11:25 PM
Of course he can't, I never said they were good enough to win Ulster this year either.. or any year for that matter

Reality check for Cavan football with all the teams making early exits.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: comeysfield on November 14, 2014, 01:08:28 PM
Bank of Ireland Dr. McKenna Cup
All Sunday games at 2.00 p.m.: All midweek games at 7.30 p.m.
(Extra time to be played in Semi finals & Final)
Section A:     UUJ, An Dún, An Cabhán & Muineachán   
Section B:     QUB, Fear Manach, Dún na nGall & Doire   
Section C:     Naomh Mhuire, Ard Mhacha, Aontroim & Tír Eoghain   

4th Jan (Sun):  Round 1: Group A
Muineachán v UUJ at Clones
An Dún v An Cabhán at Pairc Esler
Group B
Fear Manach v QUB at Brewster Park
Doire v Dún na nGall at Celtic Park
Group C     
Ard Mhacha v Tír Eoghain at Athletic Grounds
Aontroim v Naomh Mhuire at Creggan

11th Jan (Sun): Round 2: Group A   
An Cabhán v UUJ at Kingspan Breffni Park
Muineachán v An Dún at Clones
Group B
Dún na nGall v QUB at Pairc MacCumhaill
Fear Manach v Doire at Brewster Park
Group C     
Aontroim v Ard Mhacha at Creggan
Tír Eoghain v Naomh Mhuire at Healy Park

14th Jan (Wed): Round 3: Group A    
An Dún v UUJ at Pairc Esler
An Cabhán v Muineachán at Kingspan Breffni Park
Group B   
Doire v QUB at Celtic Park
Dún na nGall v Fear Manach at Pairc MacCumhaill
Group C         
Tír Eoghain v Aontroim at Healy Park
Ard Mhacha v Naomh Mhuire at Athletic Grounds

18th Jan (Sun): Semi Finals:
(1)     Group A Winner v Group B Winner
(2)     Group C Winner v Best Runner Up

24th Jan (Sat): Final:  1 v 2
N.B.   All Fixtures potentially should be considered as floodlit games.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on November 19, 2014, 07:39:51 PM
So Givney may not play this year. Could be a blessing in disguise for us.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on November 19, 2014, 11:04:48 PM
Some on Hoganstand (I know I know, believe nothing you read there) are saying Johnson is back on the panel. I hope thats not true, dont think i could watch him in a Cavan jersey. Givney might need a rest, he was very poor last year and went backwards but will he improve in the future I am not so sure.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Blue in hope on November 24, 2014, 01:34:43 PM
Been told by someone in the know that SJ wont be back and as well as Givney gone so is Kevin Tierney and Alan Clarke!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on November 24, 2014, 04:12:54 PM
I don't think Tierney can have too many complaints,got a lot of chances during the league and didn't shine. Maybe a full year with the Club might get  his confidence back for a recall.
Clarke didn't have his best year, and was dropped for the Westmeath, was solid in 2013, possibly a falling out there.
Givney got a knock on the ankle with Ballymun, but he wasn't playing well as it was. A break from Co football might get his focus back.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on November 24, 2014, 07:13:29 PM
Tierney opted out himself AFAIK going travelling next summer.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on November 28, 2014, 08:57:13 PM
So without Alan Clarke who will take the ctr half back jersey? Moynagh is young but a great ball player and a leader I'd like to see him given a go. McEnroe could do a job there and maybe Killian Clarke too. I think if Cavan are going to open up their game a but Clarkes lack of pace may have been shown up next year although I've a lot of time for him as a player and a captain. Tierney I'm not too worried about to be honest, he needs to go away and find his mojo. Givney will be the biggest loss, his form last year was poor and then we have all this messing with his transfer. Again, maybe a year out will settle him down a bit. Looking forward to the McKenna cup and more so to the league and stepping up to a higher level and playing some teams we haven't played in a while.

I also hear Barry Reilly is back in training, thats very good news. He could be a big player for us if he sticks at it.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on November 28, 2014, 09:22:56 PM
I think McEnroe would be better suited for Centre half. Moynagh is new to Senior County football and a step up from u21;s he is prone to picking up the odd black cards with both U21's and Juniors this year, so he will need to curb that for Senior Football. A very good ball player, maybe takes too much out of the ball at times. But he will learn from that. I would have him on the wing.

Clarke was captain for the past 2 years, and his experience  will be a loss to the panel. Would agree about him lacking pace.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on November 29, 2014, 01:39:56 PM
Clarke for me is the biggest loss. Moynagh has loads of potential, for the first 15 minutes of that AI Semi Final last year he looked a class above the rest. But he is prone to making silly needless errors. And his injury record is far from encouraging when you're looking for a dependable No. 6.
Tierney didn't play a big enough part in the first team to consider him a big loss. As for Givney, a blessing in disguise that he's not committing this year if you ask me. Did anyone else hear that Tinnelly opted out?

I think Bud Fitzpatrick is back in the panel which is good to hear. Ciaran Brady has also excelled at U21 and I wouldn't be surprised to see him claim a place for the start of the league.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on November 29, 2014, 05:50:39 PM
Be sorry to see Tinnelly not in their. He's a perfect man to help  us to open up a bit more.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on November 30, 2014, 11:31:44 AM
Quote from: Westside on November 29, 2014, 01:39:56 PM
Clarke for me is the biggest loss. Moynagh has loads of potential, for the first 15 minutes of that AI Semi Final last year he looked a class above the rest. But he is prone to making silly needless errors. And his injury record is far from encouraging when you're looking for a dependable No. 6.
Tierney didn't play a big enough part in the first team to consider him a big loss. As for Givney, a blessing in disguise that he's not committing this year if you ask me. Did anyone else hear that Tinnelly opted out?

I think Bud Fitzpatrick is back in the panel which is good to hear. Ciaran Brady has also excelled at U21 and I wouldn't be surprised to see him claim a place for the start of the league.

Givney was poor last year but surely a lad playing midfield for ulster and giving mom displays in sigerson has at least the potential to have a good year next year. Maybe a breaks what he needs but he still has a lot to give in my opinion.

Bud Fitz - Not up to this level I don't think. I'd get Tom Hayes into the senior panel. Enda Reilly is another one who should be in there. Paul O Connor is a strange one. Has moments of brilliance, looks a great player and then cant even make the Gaels team - does anyone know what the story is with him?

A list of Cavan forwards I'd like to see involved, please add to in case I've missed someone....

Keating, Dunne, Enda Reilly, Paul O Connor, Martin Reilly, Barry Reilly, Tom Hayes, Jack Brady, Cian Mackey, Niall McDermott, Enda Heslin.


Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on November 30, 2014, 11:42:57 AM
O Connor was making the Gaels team this year , but got injured against Lacken in the Quarter final and missed the rest of the championship. He was poor in some of the Cavan Junior games and was good in others , a bit inconsistent.
Tom Hayes in is on the panel

Bud Fitz is worth another look I think, he showed well enough in 2012 League in a few games when he did start,. .started against Donegal in the championship that year and was  unlucky with a chances hitting the cross bar and post. He can his win own and kick off either foot, a useful player to have on the panel.
His form wasn't bad with Belturbet , only came back from Australia in June was one their best players in Intermediate Championship.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on November 30, 2014, 03:48:33 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on November 30, 2014, 11:31:44 AM
Quote from: Westside on November 29, 2014, 01:39:56 PM
Clarke for me is the biggest loss. Moynagh has loads of potential, for the first 15 minutes of that AI Semi Final last year he looked a class above the rest. But he is prone to making silly needless errors. And his injury record is far from encouraging when you're looking for a dependable No. 6.
Tierney didn't play a big enough part in the first team to consider him a big loss. As for Givney, a blessing in disguise that he's not committing this year if you ask me. Did anyone else hear that Tinnelly opted out?

I think Bud Fitzpatrick is back in the panel which is good to hear. Ciaran Brady has also excelled at U21 and I wouldn't be surprised to see him claim a place for the start of the league.

Givney was poor last year but surely a lad playing midfield for ulster and giving mom displays in sigerson has at least the potential to have a good year next year. Maybe a breaks what he needs but he still has a lot to give in my opinion.

Bud Fitz - Not up to this level I don't think. I'd get Tom Hayes into the senior panel. Enda Reilly is another one who should be in there. Paul O Connor is a strange one. Has moments of brilliance, looks a great player and then cant even make the Gaels team - does anyone know what the story is with him?

A list of Cavan forwards I'd like to see involved, please add to in case I've missed someone....

Keating, Dunne, Enda Reilly, Paul O Connor, Martin Reilly, Barry Reilly, Tom Hayes, Jack Brady, Cian Mackey, Niall McDermott, Enda Heslin.

We've been saying that about Givney since 2008/2008 though, and he's never pushed on. I'd expect to see him rejoin the panel later in the year but hopefully we'll have found a more consistent player in the mean time.

The glaring problem with those forwards is a lack of physicality. Apart from Keating and maybe McDermott there's no lads there that will bully an opposition full back line. I'd love to see how Tom Hayes fares at Senior level.

I see Dunne scored 1-2 for the All Stars in Boston.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on November 30, 2014, 09:05:08 PM
What about Joe Dillon, he'd add a bit of strength in there.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on November 30, 2014, 09:34:29 PM
He is injured and hasn't played in Months.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on November 30, 2014, 10:03:00 PM
I know he's injured but he won't be injured forever!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on November 30, 2014, 10:32:10 PM
Well not much point mentioning him, he won't be back for 3/4 months at the earliest , and would have to play Club football so no real chance of him playing County next year.

He could be lucky to even play Club next year. It's not some standard injury he got.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on December 01, 2014, 09:38:56 AM
What about Ray Cullivan? Did he ever sort out his head? Has be burnt his bridges as county level. Bit of strength to him at least but I wouldnt have him in unless he demonstrated an improved attitude.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on December 01, 2014, 02:46:20 PM
Yeah his discipline is still poor enough, i saw him a few times this year and he wasn't bad but probaly not much of an improvement on whats already on the panel. He over did it with the gym work when he was 19/20, doesn't seem to be as mobile as he once was.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on December 01, 2014, 08:29:17 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on December 01, 2014, 02:46:20 PM
Yeah his discipline is still poor enough, i saw him a few times this year and he wasn't bad but probaly not much of an improvement on whats already on the panel. He over did it with the gym work when he was 19/20, doesn't seem to be as mobile as he once was.

When he broke onto the senior team first he looked a massive prospect, what a shame he didnt live up to it and his tantrums with not making the team were very selfish. We seem very light in the forwards unfortunately.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on December 01, 2014, 09:39:49 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on December 01, 2014, 08:29:17 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on December 01, 2014, 02:46:20 PM
Yeah his discipline is still poor enough, i saw him a few times this year and he wasn't bad but probaly not much of an improvement on whats already on the panel. He over did it with the gym work when he was 19/20, doesn't seem to be as mobile as he once was.


When he broke onto the senior team first he looked a massive prospect, what a shame he didnt live up to it and his tantrums with not making the team were very selfish. We seem very light in the forwards unfortunately.

No he didn't he was yet another young player talked up to the last and his down fall was believing the hype.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on December 01, 2014, 10:22:53 PM
Quote from: tommysmith on December 01, 2014, 09:39:49 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on December 01, 2014, 08:29:17 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on December 01, 2014, 02:46:20 PM
Yeah his discipline is still poor enough, i saw him a few times this year and he wasn't bad but probaly not much of an improvement on whats already on the panel. He over did it with the gym work when he was 19/20, doesn't seem to be as mobile as he once was.


When he broke onto the senior team first he looked a massive prospect, what a shame he didnt live up to it and his tantrums with not making the team were very selfish. We seem very light in the forwards unfortunately.

No he didn't he was yet another young player talked up to the last and his down fall was believing the hype.

Sorry Tommy but he did, he was playing wing forward and I recall him playing some excellent games in the league that year. I particularly remember him destroying Leighton Glynn in Breffni widely regarded as one of the best half backs in the country at the time. He was talked up at the time for sure because he had potential. He represented his country in compromise rules at U17 I think. I've said it many times on here before, potential and skill without attitude and work rate is worthless and as it turned out Cullivan had a stinker of an attitude and as Rodney said he did totally the wrong training and that ruined him. What you have stated there Tommy is a lazy cliche in my opinion.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on December 01, 2014, 11:01:46 PM
He was an outstanding under age player, played 2 years under age with the International Rules team,  the first year with Mackey and Flanagan and the second year he was Captain. He was on the DCU that won a sigerson as well.

I remember him having a brilliant game against  in Meath in Navan on his first year on the Senior panel in a League, didn't do much after, had a few injuries and walks out.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on December 02, 2014, 07:13:19 AM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on December 01, 2014, 10:22:53 PM
Quote from: tommysmith on December 01, 2014, 09:39:49 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on December 01, 2014, 08:29:17 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on December 01, 2014, 02:46:20 PM
Yeah his discipline is still poor enough, i saw him a few times this year and he wasn't bad but probaly not much of an improvement on whats already on the panel. He over did it with the gym work when he was 19/20, doesn't seem to be as mobile as he once was.


When he broke onto the senior team first he looked a massive prospect, what a shame he didnt live up to it and his tantrums with not making the team were very selfish. We seem very light in the forwards unfortunately.

No he didn't he was yet another young player talked up to the last and his down fall was believing the hype.

Sorry Tommy but he did, he was playing wing forward and I recall him playing some excellent games in the league that year. I particularly remember him destroying Leighton Glynn in Breffni widely regarded as one of the best half backs in the country at the time. He was talked up at the time for sure because he had potential. He represented his country in compromise rules at U17 I think. I've said it many times on here before, potential and skill without attitude and work rate is worthless and as it turned out Cullivan had a stinker of an attitude and as Rodney said he did totally the wrong training and that ruined him. What you have stated there Tommy is a lazy cliche in my opinion.

If you don't think he believed his own hype that's fine but the fact that he left his own club to play a higher level shows he thinks he is has a high opinion of himself and no loyalty to club and as proven county.  Another lad with head blown of him.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on December 02, 2014, 10:31:08 PM
Quote from: tommysmith on December 02, 2014, 07:13:19 AM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on December 01, 2014, 10:22:53 PM
Quote from: tommysmith on December 01, 2014, 09:39:49 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on December 01, 2014, 08:29:17 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on December 01, 2014, 02:46:20 PM
Yeah his discipline is still poor enough, i saw him a few times this year and he wasn't bad but probaly not much of an improvement on whats already on the panel. He over did it with the gym work when he was 19/20, doesn't seem to be as mobile as he once was.


When he broke onto the senior team first he looked a massive prospect, what a shame he didnt live up to it and his tantrums with not making the team were very selfish. We seem very light in the forwards unfortunately.

No he didn't he was yet another young player talked up to the last and his down fall was believing the hype.

Sorry Tommy but he did, he was playing wing forward and I recall him playing some excellent games in the league that year. I particularly remember him destroying Leighton Glynn in Breffni widely regarded as one of the best half backs in the country at the time. He was talked up at the time for sure because he had potential. He represented his country in compromise rules at U17 I think. I've said it many times on here before, potential and skill without attitude and work rate is worthless and as it turned out Cullivan had a stinker of an attitude and as Rodney said he did totally the wrong training and that ruined him. What you have stated there Tommy is a lazy cliche in my opinion.

If you don't think he believed his own hype that's fine but the fact that he left his own club to play a higher level shows he thinks he is has a high opinion of himself and no loyalty to club and as proven county.  Another lad with head blown of him.

We could have crossed wires Tommy. What I am saying is, based on his ability at the time that people were within their rights to talk about him as being a player with great potential. I totally agree he lost his way and that was likely due to his big ego which as you say resulted in him leaving his own club and walking out on the county when he wasn't picked.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Blue in hope on December 05, 2014, 09:58:34 AM
Any word on new club managers for 2015?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on December 05, 2014, 06:15:10 PM
I hear Canavan is leaving the Gaels following his big lotto win.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on December 06, 2014, 10:23:09 AM
Or maybe because 5/6 players didn't turn up for the league semi against kingscourt. The lotto story had nothing with Canavan
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on December 06, 2014, 11:35:26 AM
Really Rodney, are you sure he didn't win the lotto? Thanks for clearing that up for me. I suppose the foreign aid must have dried up.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on December 06, 2014, 01:06:24 PM
And why were you sure he ever did win it in the first place? The stories your hearing are eggerated,  it was known what happened , shouldn't really be spouting it on here anyways
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on December 06, 2014, 01:33:04 PM
What stories am I hearing Rodney?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on December 06, 2014, 01:36:51 PM
About canavans windfall win

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on December 06, 2014, 02:56:09 PM
Canavan has been on a windfall win or lose, all year. Bankrolled not by the club but by foreign investment. Joke of a club the Gaels.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on December 06, 2014, 03:18:28 PM
I'm referring to the Lotto that he apparently won.

Aidan Elliot was bankrolling the Clubs for years, if they can get outside help that's their business
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on December 06, 2014, 04:49:29 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on December 06, 2014, 03:18:28 PM
I'm referring to the Lotto that he apparently won.

Aidan Elliot was bankrolling the Clubs for years, if they can get outside help that's their business

You might find its the GAAs business Rodders. Also, you shouldn't be sticking peoples names up here like that.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on December 06, 2014, 09:47:19 PM
Some good news for underage football in the county today. St Pats won the Corn na nog title beating Dungannon by 3 points, first time in 42 years they won it. Also Southern Gaels won their first game in the Ulster minor club championship beating Moortown of Tyrone.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on December 06, 2014, 11:00:53 PM
Good stuff. Pat's very competitive in the last couple of years. Now doing some damage in the MacRory cup would be great. As long as it doesn't affect the county minors of course...
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on December 07, 2014, 11:22:25 AM
Quote from: Westside on December 06, 2014, 11:00:53 PM
Good stuff. Pat's very competitive in the last couple of years. Now doing some damage in the MacRory cup would be great. As long as it doesn't affect the county minors of course...

I hear that the relationship between county minors and St Pats should be better this year, lets hope so. We could do with a good year at minor again to keep the underage momentum going.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Blue in hope on December 08, 2014, 11:55:42 AM
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Rodney what happened was not exaggerated, it was disgraceful as was the cover up which still was going on at AGM yesterday. it was known what happened thanks to some honest people present. Honest is what they are and not what they were called at the AGM. It is no wonder that the club are so disliked in the county that to stand up for what is right  leads a people to be turned on !Canavan I am sure does not want to be associated with this so its no surprise he has moved on.


Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on December 09, 2014, 09:07:24 AM
Can someone send me a PM and let me know what all this is about? I'm out of the country...
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: big balla on December 11, 2014, 05:57:18 PM
Same here, haven't heard any of this story. Someone PM me!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on December 12, 2014, 01:54:16 PM
Its hardly a big secret. The allegation is that Cavan Gaels held a draw, wanted the winner to be someone local and overlooked the first name out of the hat as they were not local. The allegation is that they did this very openly and in front of witnesses, some of whom were very concerned about it and it leaked out to the general public. I believe  the allegations are now subject to a garda investigation.

Of course these are just allegations and may be completely false.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on December 14, 2014, 03:05:57 PM
Southern Gaels v Crossmaglen into extra time in the Ulster Minor. Had been 3 down at half time, Crossmaglen didn't score in the second half.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on December 14, 2014, 05:19:41 PM
Draw after extra time too.

Big win for St Joes against Ramor in the U21 final today to.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on December 14, 2014, 05:59:45 PM
Quote from: Itchy on December 06, 2014, 04:49:29 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on December 06, 2014, 03:18:28 PM
I'm referring to the Lotto that he apparently won.

Aidan Elliot was bankrolling the Clubs for years, if they can get outside help that's their business

You might find its the GAAs business Rodders. Also, you shouldn't be sticking peoples names up here like that.

Get over yourself.  It was no big secret at the time and he wasn't doing anything wrong -.

My orginal point was about Cavanan  leaving the Gaels  - being annoyed about a few Gaels players not turning up for the league Semi with Kingscourt, as he wanted to do the double, said as much after the Ulster club exit.

You were the one who brought the whole money talk into it and foreign aid - as the reason he left..
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on December 14, 2014, 06:18:24 PM
There's nothing wrong with paying a manager in the GAA? I think you will find that there is Rodney. In fact the business men paying managers is a lot that's wrong with the GAA, even worse when its shite managers like Canavan. Sad that you think there's nothing wrong with that.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on December 14, 2014, 06:28:14 PM
Quote from: Itchy on December 14, 2014, 06:18:24 PM
There's nothing wrong with paying a manager in the GAA? I think you will find that there is Rodney. In fact the business men paying managers is a lot that's wrong with the GAA, even worse when its shite managers like Canavan. Sad that you think there's nothing wrong with that.

No, there isn't..

Businessman approach might look above the ethos of the Gaa but if some clubs are lucky to have connections like that then they will obviously use it, in the right way obviously.. whatever way  the gaels used it different this year I dunno.

More or less every Club in Cavan is paying their managr at Senior - that's the way it is.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: INDIANA on December 14, 2014, 06:32:58 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on December 14, 2014, 06:28:14 PM
Quote from: Itchy on December 14, 2014, 06:18:24 PM
There's nothing wrong with paying a manager in the GAA? I think you will find that there is Rodney. In fact the business men paying managers is a lot that's wrong with the GAA, even worse when its shite managers like Canavan. Sad that you think there's nothing wrong with that.

No, there isn't..

Businessman approach might look above the ethos of the Gaa but if some clubs are lucky to have connections like that then they will obviously use it, in the right way obviously.. whatever way  the gaels used it different this year I dunno.

More or less every Club in Cavan is paying their managr at Senior - that's the way it is.

Tommy Conroy doesn't get paid a cent and he manages the best club team in Ireland
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on December 14, 2014, 06:36:02 PM
Yeah but Tommy is from St Vincents so that's different,

Is Paul Curran taking over Clan na Gaal is Roscommon for free?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: INDIANA on December 14, 2014, 06:36:56 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on December 14, 2014, 06:36:02 PM
Yeah but Tommy is from St Vincents so that's different,

Is Paul Curran taking over Clan na Gaal is Roscommon for free?

Is it though? There is a message in that by the way.

On the latter I doubt it.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on December 14, 2014, 06:44:02 PM
Up to the individual but most would probaly manage their own club for a very little amount if nothing at all, , the way it is now its unrealistic not to expect managers to be paid,
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: INDIANA on December 14, 2014, 06:50:10 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on December 14, 2014, 06:44:02 PM
Up to the individual but most would probaly manage their own club for a very little amount if nothing at all, , the way it is now its unrealistic not to expect managers to be paid,

Most of these outside managers aren't worth it.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on December 14, 2014, 06:52:34 PM
True, I suppose if there is nobody up to the standard in the Clubs, they have no option but to look outside.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: INDIANA on December 14, 2014, 07:04:32 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on December 14, 2014, 06:52:34 PM
True, I suppose if there is nobody up to the standard in the Clubs, they have no option but to look outside.

Its easy enough to get people up to standard. You invest in coaching in the club rather than investing in outside managers who fleece clubs and win them nothing.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on December 14, 2014, 07:08:18 PM
All clubs do good work under age, It's a different matter at Senior level the commitment requried to manage at Senior level .. especially the way Club football is run in Cavan.

Our own club has a local man for next year ,
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on December 21, 2014, 12:50:37 PM
Are the county team playing any challenge games this christmas? I know they used to play Meath in Oldcastle on 27t or 28th but heard nothing about it. Also heard they played Westmeath but were beaten, anyone know anything about that game?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mrdeeds on December 21, 2014, 03:10:31 PM
They didn't play Westmeath. Played Louth. Bet them well. Turloch Mooney broke and dislocated his ankle. Used to play a tournament in Kells with Meath and Offaly but that doesn't seem to have happened this year.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on December 21, 2014, 03:25:31 PM
That Westmeath rumour was from Hoganstand. They didn't play them.

Played Louth in Darver and won well. Think they played Meath last year a few days after Christmas last year in Oldcastle, could be the same again this year.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on December 21, 2014, 09:17:23 PM
I should know better than listening to the shite that is written on hoganstand, my bad. Sad news about Mooney, another man who can take a score. Any idea how long he will be out for. Dislocated and broken sounds like a long injury
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on December 22, 2014, 06:57:25 PM
Round 3 and Round 4 against Down and Kildare are to be shown on Setanta. Great news for those of us who can't make every game. Let's hope it in no way affects the players.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on January 01, 2015, 04:18:43 PM
County board very slow in putting McKenna cup panel on twitter Celt has it this week.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on January 01, 2015, 05:53:11 PM
Quote from: tommysmith on January 01, 2015, 04:18:43 PM
County board very slow in putting McKenna cup panel on twitter Celt has it this week.

Who is different from last year? I have no Celt this week!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on January 01, 2015, 08:41:18 PM
I just had quick look and said I would look at twitter later it was in the shop. Wright from castlerahan and morris from arva are two I think. Apparently Raymond  galligan from lacken is in as a goalkeeper/freetaker.

Bout 10 lads with colleges who were not named.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on January 01, 2015, 08:47:23 PM
Galligan is a brilliant free taker but has no pace for outfield but a keeper? That's a bit mad or could it be a master stroke?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on January 02, 2015, 09:43:27 AM
Quote from: Itchy on January 01, 2015, 08:47:23 PM
Galligan is a brilliant free taker but has no pace for outfield but a keeper? That's a bit mad or could it be a master stroke?

They will probably try it out for a while but I doubt if the other two keepers would be happy with it.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on January 03, 2015, 04:56:01 PM
Big win for the 21s today beating Meath by 13 points. Sounds like Connolly Hayes and Madden did almost all of the scoring. Roscommon and Kerry also in the group so it's an uphill task from here to get out of the group.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on January 03, 2015, 08:04:25 PM
U21 team that lined out today was...

Darren O Donoghue
John Carney
Mark Magee
Fergal Reilly
Gerrard Smith
Aaron Watson
Jonathan Leddy
Kian Monahan
Kevin Brady
Niall Clerkin
Conor Madden
Jonathon McCabe
Conor Bradley
Tom Hayes
Ryan Connolly

Subs Named: Mark Fegan, Cormac Daly, Barry Fortune, Dan Wharton, Eoin Sommerville, Brian Magee, Brian O Connell, Conall Sheridan, Cathal Maguire

From following on twitter I'd guess Connolly hit 1-7 or so, Hayes and Madden made 0-2 or 0-3 each.

By my reckoning they were without Argue, Buchanan, Faulkner, Ciaran Brady and Enda Flanagan all of whom will almost certainly be starting come championship time.

Anyone care to match the clubs to the players?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on January 03, 2015, 09:43:12 PM

Will guess a few of them myles

Darren O Donoghue
John Carney Cootehill
Mark Magee
Fergal Reilly Castlerahan
Gerrard Smith Lavey
Aaron Watson Drung
Jonathan Leddy Butlersbridge
Kian Monahan Castlerahan
Kevin Brady
Niall Clerkin Shercock
Conor Madden Gowna
Jonathon McCabe Arvagh
Conor Bradley Ramor
Tom Hayes Cootehill
Ryan Connolly Drumlane



Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on January 03, 2015, 09:51:29 PM
I think the Goalkeeper is Darren Donohoe from Templeport. Kevin Brady is from Cavan Gaels.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: scoopmine on January 03, 2015, 10:29:32 PM
Kian Monahan is Drumlane and Kevin Brady is from Arva...
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on January 03, 2015, 10:33:49 PM
Mark Magee is from Ramor.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on January 03, 2015, 11:06:38 PM
Quote from: tommysmith on January 02, 2015, 09:43:27 AM
Quote from: Itchy on January 01, 2015, 08:47:23 PM
Galligan is a brilliant free taker but has no pace for outfield but a keeper? That's a bit mad or could it be a master stroke?

They will probably try it out for a while but I doubt if the other two keepers would be happy with it.

Its a fascinating move. In the modern game the priority for the keeper is to command their area, distribute their kick outs extremely accurately and to do so must be able to read what is in front of them. Galligan is an exceptional free taker. I remember years ago when he got a run in League/McKenna cup as a forward he hit up on 10 points in some games. Obviously the idea of stopping shots is still very important and whether Galligan can learn enough to have this as part of his game remains to be seen.

One of the big pluses would be the ability to kick frees from 50-55 meters out. I've seen other teams foul us repeatedly out that distance in the knowledge we have no one to knock them over. That would change.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on January 04, 2015, 01:16:36 PM
Fairly strong starting lineup for the first McKenna Cup game. Paul Smith the only player making his Senior debut. Interesting to see how Killian Clarke gets on at midfield. The front 6 has a glaring lack of power.

James Farrelly, Joshua Hayes, Rory Dunne, Jason McLoughlin, Dara McVeety, Damien O'Reilly, Paul Smith, Gearoid McKiernan, Killian Clarke, Christopher Conroy, Barry Reilly, Martin Reilly, Ronan Flanagan, Brendan Fitzpatrick, Jack Brady
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on January 04, 2015, 02:34:11 PM
Tom Hayes on for the Cavan Seniors now. Disappointing, he played almost an full game yesterday for the U21s, expected better from Terry and co.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on January 04, 2015, 06:48:43 PM
To be fair Westside they were shy a large amount of forwards andim sure Terry would have not put Hayes on toll much later but he was forced to sub two forwards (Conroy & bud Fitz) early in the first half.

Good result although a few key things went our way at key times,  getting a soft penalty and then saving a Down penalty in the 2nd half.

Good win, sets us up for 2 home games to get out of the group.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mrdeeds on January 04, 2015, 06:52:32 PM
Quote from: Itchy on January 03, 2015, 10:33:49 PM
Mark Magee is from Ramor.

Cuchullains
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Blue in hope on January 06, 2015, 01:21:10 PM
Down manager doesn't think we have changed our approach!!!

Down boss slams Cavan's blanket defence
06 January 2015

Down manager Jim McCorry says "it would be terrible for gaelic football" if other teams followed Cavan's lead.
The Breffni County claimed victory in McCorry's first competitive outing as Mourne County boss at Newry on Sunday and the home manager was not impressed by the negativity shown by the visitors:
"Against Cavan we came up against a sweeper and a double-sweeper at times while we instead wanted to play open football," he notes in The Belfast Telegraph. "I think it would be terrible for gaelic football if this is the way it is to be."
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: packiedevlin on January 07, 2015, 03:35:42 PM
Anyone hear that Keating has left the panel? There are rumours around that he has.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: big balla on January 07, 2015, 07:01:21 PM
That rumour goes around every year!  :D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on January 07, 2015, 07:24:16 PM
Like Givney, it could be a blessing in disguise if he has. That said, he's put in a few great performances for us and error prone and inconstent as he is, on his day he could mix it with the best of them, so I do hope it's just a rumour.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on January 07, 2015, 07:37:08 PM
Quote from: Westside on January 07, 2015, 07:24:16 PM
Like Givney, it could be a blessing in disguise if he has. That said, he's put in a few great performances for us and error prone and inconstent as he is, on his day he could mix it with the best of them, so I do hope it's just a rumour.

Ah Westside, I know he is frustrating, but we need Keating big time. Otherwise we are a team of small nippy forwards and fairly one dimensional. Keating needs someone to really work with him so he knows how to be a proper inside forward. It would be very bad news if he was not on the panel.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: whats my name on January 07, 2015, 08:21:45 PM
He's definitely left the panel keating was talking to one of the players yesterday and he was telling me he'd left.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on January 07, 2015, 08:43:21 PM
Quote from: whats my name on January 07, 2015, 08:21:45 PM
He's definitely left the panel keating was talking to one of the players yesterday and he was telling me he'd left.

Why is he quitting??
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: whats my name on January 07, 2015, 09:43:06 PM
From what I heard he's carrying an injury and hasn't trained at all yet with the panel and with working and living in Dublin hasn't time to commit to county football.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on January 08, 2015, 12:32:45 AM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on January 07, 2015, 07:37:08 PM
Quote from: Westside on January 07, 2015, 07:24:16 PM
Like Givney, it could be a blessing in disguise if he has. That said, he's put in a few great performances for us and error prone and inconstent as he is, on his day he could mix it with the best of them, so I do hope it's just a rumour.

Ah Westside, I know he is frustrating, but we need Keating big time. Otherwise we are a team of small nippy forwards and fairly one dimensional. Keating needs someone to really work with him so he knows how to be a proper inside forward. It would be very bad news if he was not on the panel.

I know where you're coming from myles and I agree we don't have another in his mould physically.. You'd much rather have him as an option than not. But I do think we can get on just fine in his absence. You remember when the game was in the melting pot against Monaghan two years ago and he was taking hail Mary shots from 50 metres.. The Kerry game.. The League Final last year. I just can't see us managing to nick an Ulster title if he's our main man inside. Not an intelligent enough player, not the powerhouse that he threatened to be. Sadly there doesn't seem to be another imposing full forward on the panel, and so you'd be stupid not to regret his absence, he also put in a brilliant effort any time I saw him play even when things weren't going well, I admired that in him. But I think the chance to mix up the forward line and try something new (albeit out of necessity) is a welcome one.

Best of luck to him anyway, he's been knocking around the panel for a good few years at this stage. I'd say he came in there around 2008/9? Lot of commitment. Perhaps he'll make an appearance later in the year if he can get over his injuries. Maybe the break will do him good.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: comeysfield on January 08, 2015, 05:14:05 PM
Not aware that Keating has a club so very hard to play county football if you are not playing any club football
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: whats my name on January 08, 2015, 07:35:08 PM
He signed up with crokes in Dublin this year from what I've heard keating
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Smurfy123 on January 08, 2015, 10:20:48 PM
Lads Keating would come in handy later in the season if yas are to make any challenge in division 2.From what I seen last Sunday yous are very light and small in the forward line.I expect a far better performance from Down when we meet in the league with a lot of players to come back for us.Although yous will be in the same boat?Were yous missing many on Sunday that might start in the first league game?Fully deserved your win by the way.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on January 08, 2015, 10:43:53 PM
I guess the lads missing that you would expect to be starting were Mackey, Dunne, Argue, Moynagh, Feargal Flanagan, Niall McDermott, James McEnroe.. So the guts of half of the team.

Sure Down don't believe in defensive football so come the League meeting our small light forwards will have lots of space to run into....
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on January 09, 2015, 11:32:18 PM
Where is Niall McDermott, injured?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Gaabellting on January 10, 2015, 09:58:32 AM
Any word if team has been picked to play against uuj tonight. They should be tough opposition with their array of county stars and will be looking to bounce back from last week's loss to monaghan
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on January 10, 2015, 10:28:58 AM
I bet we are tight to get a team out. The u21s are playing today too so none of them lads would be able to play plus the other lads with the college teams.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on January 10, 2015, 01:46:46 PM
U-21 Cavan Team v Kerry in Hastings cup
M Fegan, D Wharton, A Watson, B Fortune, E Somerville, C Daly, C Brady, L Buchanan, G McGovern, K Brady, J McCabe, B Conaty, N Walsh, T Hayes, C Sheridan
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on January 10, 2015, 02:20:25 PM
Would have thought last week's team was stronger.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on January 10, 2015, 02:40:54 PM
Way stronger last week.

Down 1-8 to 0-5 at half time.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on January 10, 2015, 02:58:17 PM
Looks like a hammering on the cards..
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Smurfy123 on January 11, 2015, 12:21:53 PM
Lads anyone at the game last night?Just looking information on how Downs Caolan Mooney played?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: beer baron on January 11, 2015, 01:12:40 PM
Good to see Enda Reilly involved yesterday and he was the pick of our players for me. Ronan Flanagan did his job well too and Martin reilly was lively. Poor game though but early in the season in bad conditions its not much of a surprise. Conor Madden put up a good score for Maynooth last week,is he still under 21?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on January 11, 2015, 03:38:55 PM
Conor is still u21 alright. Played for county 2 weeks ago against Meath.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on January 12, 2015, 03:48:09 PM
Madden is in DIT not Maynooth, they are playing Kildare next week in the O Byrne Cup Semi's. Fergal Flanagan and Pauric Faulker are with Maynooth
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: beer baron on January 12, 2015, 05:35:03 PM
I mustve read it wrong. The main point is its good to see young Cavan man appearing to do well no matter which college its for.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on January 12, 2015, 06:16:35 PM
It is yeah, Moynagh centre back with DCU. They were unlucky not to beat Meath on Saturday
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on January 14, 2015, 10:12:44 PM
Anyone for the craic hazard a guess on a championship team now that Givney, Keating & Clarke are out. Its going to be a small team....

Farrelly
J Hayes
R Dunne
McLoughlin
Damien Reilly
Moynagh
McEnroe
Argue
G McKiernan
Mackey
Martin Reilly
Flanagan
Dunne
Ball Winner, yet to be determined??????

So who could that ball winner be. Dillon if he is back? Conor Madden?? Paul O Connor?? Could someone be converted from another position??





Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on January 14, 2015, 10:36:13 PM
Down bet uuj by 6 pts tonight. By my calculations we would need to beat Monaghan by 2 pts to top the group.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on January 14, 2015, 10:54:36 PM
.Enda Reilly will be thereabouts, very early to predict anything yet anyways. Dillon won't be County football this year

Killian Clarke will be in the team. Fergal Flanagan likely to be in there too.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: beer baron on January 15, 2015, 10:40:12 AM
Wouldn't be surprised to see Argue or Killian Clarke tried as full forward at some stage depending on which isn't centrefield with Gearoid.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on January 15, 2015, 02:04:23 PM
Both good options alright, Clarke plays most of his club football in the forwards.

Givney,  Keating and Clarke are losses, but it's a fairly strong panel when all the college players and u21 players are available. Conor Madden and Faulkner have been in good form with the colleges hopefully they maintain that with the u21s, they won't be far away from the Senior Championship team either.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on January 15, 2015, 06:01:38 PM
My Championship team would be

Gilsenan

McLoughlin
Dunne
Josh Hayes

Damien O'Reilly
Conor Moynagh
Ciaran Brady

Gearoid
Killian Clarke

Martin Reilly
Michael Argue
Cian Mackey

Ronan Flanagan
Niall McDermott
Tom Hayes

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on January 17, 2015, 02:32:41 PM
U21s are 5 points down coming towards the end of the first half. It's early yet and I know Kerry and Roscommon are two strong teams but it looks like hard edge we had at this grade is falling away.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on January 17, 2015, 06:10:04 PM
I wouldn't worry about the Under 21's, Only Watson,Fortune,Faulkner,Hayes are definite starters,with Ben Kiernan and Liam Galligan probable starters. Others lads were also out of position, Pierce Smith is a forward and a very good one at that.
We will take beating again this year.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanforever on January 17, 2015, 07:46:15 PM
Yes they have been trying out alot of lads so wouldn't look too much into this. Realistically this will probably be the strongest 15 when looking at last years team and who is still available

Brackets indicate reasons players have not been playing during hastings cup apart from maybe the odd appearance.

1 I don't know much about the keepers on the panel
2 Barry Fortune
3 Padraig Faulkner (Been with Maynooth)
4 Fergal Reilly
5 Ciaran Brady
6 Aaron Watson
7 Gerry Smith
8 Liam Buchanan
9 Michael Argue (Been with UUJ)
10 Johnny McCabe
11 Enda Flanagan (Been with DIT)
12 Niall Clerkin / Vinny Coyle
13 Conor Madden (Been with DIT)
14 Tom Hayes
15 Ryan Connolly

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on January 17, 2015, 08:49:55 PM
Cavan team named

Gilsenan, McLoughlin, Dunne, Hayes, mcvitty, k Clarke, r Flanagan, m Reilly, mckiernan, d Reilly, mcvitty, Conroy, McKeever, Dunne, McDermott, j Brady.

Bit more solid looking
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on January 20, 2015, 06:41:43 PM
What length of a ban is Gearoid looking at? Is this something that would need to have been heard by someone other than the players involved to be proven?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mrdeeds on January 20, 2015, 09:50:41 PM
I imagine it all depends on referee's report.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: comeysfield on January 21, 2015, 01:54:09 PM
Would think it would be a couple of games if just verbals, but then it all depends on what referee heard / writes down. The only thing is that maybe ban will only be for McKenna cup
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on January 21, 2015, 02:07:18 PM
Straight red = 1 match ban, unless something else was noted. Can't believe any official would have heard what he said to be honest.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on January 21, 2015, 02:20:40 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on January 21, 2015, 02:07:18 PM
Straight red = 1 match ban, unless something else was noted. Can't believe any official would have heard what he said to be honest.
He has 2 game competition ban and a blackened reputation.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Old yeller on January 21, 2015, 04:02:14 PM
Quote from: tommysmith on January 21, 2015, 02:20:40 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on January 21, 2015, 02:07:18 PM
Straight red = 1 match ban, unless something else was noted. Can't believe any official would have heard what he said to be honest.
He has 2 game competition ban and a blackened reputation.[b/]
Thats the worst part of it in fairness. If he hit someone a dirty box or called his sister a tr**p, etc. There wouldn't be a word about it today. Stupid thing to do
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on January 21, 2015, 06:26:28 PM
Extra incentive to win tonight, he would be a big miss for the league opener. Agree with the above, there's no condoning this conduct but had he caught someone with a dangerous tackle there'd be nothing more said. Wylie's tackle a few second before that I felt was dangerous to Martin Reilly but not a word about it now.. Still, it's a lesson for Gearoid.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on January 21, 2015, 06:47:26 PM
Conor Gilsenan (Bailieboro), Killian Brady (Mullahoran), Rory Dunne (Redhills), Jason McLoughlin (Shannon Gaels), Fergal Flanagan (Butlersbridge), Conor Moynagh (Drumgoon), Martin Reilly (Killygarry), Damien O'Reilly (Belturbet), Killian Clarke (Shercock), Dara McVeety (Crosserlough), Christopher Conroy (Lavey), Mark McKeever (Gowna), Niall McDermott (Ballinagh), Tom Hayes (Cootehill), Jack Brady (Ramor Utd)

Team for tonight.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on January 21, 2015, 07:13:16 PM
Innocent until proven guilty lads, don't assume the worst just yet.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on January 25, 2015, 09:04:34 AM
Any thoughts on the 2nd half yesterday and what went wrong? I only saw it on the TV but looked to me like Tyrone upped their work by 20%, the wind and I think a lack of fitness were the main causes. We didn't seem to have the people supporting our counters in the 2nd half. Its also pretty clear we have a big problem inside with no ball winner. Maybe they should see would Keating change his mind or maybe try Argue or someone in there. I was impressed with Clarke (looks a class act and very strong), Wright (again strong in the tackle) and Rory Dunne who did a good job on Cavanagh, even put him on his backside twice.  Pity we don't have an easier start tovtge league, Ros will be extremely hard beaten in Kiltoom
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: beer baron on January 25, 2015, 10:49:15 AM
As soon as Harte copped to drop men in front of Dunne and Mc Dermott the game was up,we had no clue what to do afterwards. Very disappointing.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: redzone on January 25, 2015, 01:23:06 PM
having watched the game last night cavan need all the players on.geriod big miss.the fellow who plays in Dublin midfielder cant remember his name.keating to.cant understand him not wanting to play for his county.all in all it wasn't a bad performance.should come out of div 3.maybe cavan are aiming to high to soon.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on January 25, 2015, 01:43:35 PM
The legs tired on a number of players in the second half, 8 of the team started 3 games in a week, while Tyrone could make 13 changss from the Armagh game and 12 prior to that from the Antrim game.

Killian Clarke, McKeever, McDermott showed well in the first half but were tired in the second half on heavy ground.

Argue, Mackey, McEnroe, among others, will strengten the team when fully fit
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on January 25, 2015, 08:10:55 PM
Tyrone just a couple of levels above us. What disappointed me most was the lack of leadership. A few points down with 15 minutes to go and the lads panic and try to work goals, Dunne gets the ball 13 yards out and tries a watery shot for a goal easily blocked. The few lads coming back will help but staying up will be tough. Free taking also a huge issue. Martin Reilly is non consistent enough.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on January 25, 2015, 08:22:35 PM
What you have a lad afraid to kick a 35m free and another missing 3-4 from not impossible distances you will be found out. Good free taker will get you into positions to win a game.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on January 25, 2015, 09:46:16 PM
When you play 3 tough games in a week it's going to have an effect,lack of leadership in the last 15 minutes was probaly because the likes of McKeever , Killian Clarke were out on their feet. Tyrone had the luxury of resting players, 13 changes, and bringing on Donnelly, Harte, at half time.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on January 27, 2015, 10:18:07 AM
Without a doubt we tired in the 2nd half but there is a glaring problem in the FF line. Dunne will not win his own ball under pressure. Niall McDermott is better but he still tends to fumble ball and lose ball that he is favourite to win. I think we have are just unfortunate we dont have a natural strong ball winner in the FF line. Terry is going to have to try someone in there. What about Mark McKeever - I recall he played in the FF line as an U21 a long time ago and was pretty decent at winning ball. Argue maybe? Apart from that I think we have a solid enough outfit. Smith impressed in the tackly at Ctr back and Moynagh is a natural Ctr back. Dunne is going very well at FB. OUr midfield duo of Clarke and McKiernan look like an ideal partnership, Clarke especially looks to have bulked up a bit. We are less blessed with forwards but I think Martin Reilly can be a key man for us. We have a really tough opener against Roscommon in fortress Kiltoom. To get anything from that game would be a great start but I have a sneaking suspicion we may just get something as Ros are likely to be over confident following their FBD win and their wins against us last year in the league final and qualifiers. Cavan could sneak a win.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mrdeeds on January 27, 2015, 10:35:06 AM
Myles you mean Paul Smith at centre back?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on January 27, 2015, 11:11:39 AM
Quote from: mrdeeds on January 27, 2015, 10:35:06 AM
Myles you mean Paul Smith at centre back?

I did indeed, I corrected it there. Thanks.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Old yeller on January 27, 2015, 11:23:14 AM
I was very impressed with Paul Smith, thought he did well. I agree that we need a ball winner in the FF line, Keating and Givney big misses there. I would stick argue in there
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on January 27, 2015, 02:00:22 PM
Roscommon have the Hastings Cup final on Saturday, a few players like Enda Smith, Diarmuid Murtagh likely to be playing in it.
They will still be strong either way if they rest them on Sunday.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Old yeller on January 27, 2015, 02:07:37 PM
A win against Roscommon would be an owjus start, I think we can do it if we play the type of football we played in the first half against Tyrone. There isnt that much between the twl sides, firepower is probably the main advantage they have over us
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on January 27, 2015, 02:47:41 PM
I think we have a better midfield and probably better backs but with the better forwards Ros have to be favourite. I doubt Martin Dunne is fit for a whole match either.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mrdeeds on January 27, 2015, 03:19:47 PM
I agree with Paul Smith being impressive. It's pity we couldn't get a find like him in the full forward line.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on January 27, 2015, 07:30:21 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on January 27, 2015, 02:00:22 PM
Roscommon have the Hastings Cup final on Saturday, a few players like Enda Smith, Diarmuid Murtagh likely to be playing in it.
They will still be strong either way if they rest them on Sunday.

I would imagine Roscommon will see Cavan at home as a vital game and will field their team accordingly, I expect Smith and Murtagh to play on Sunday.

Unfortunately I think they will have too much for us in Kiltoom. They have a much, much better front 6 than we do.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on January 27, 2015, 07:47:14 PM
It depends whatever way the Roscommon U21 and Senior management agree on. Silverware there to be won for the U21 team ahead of the Championship, so I'm sure they would like that too. I would expect to see them used as impact subs on Sunday, but we'll see.

They have lots of others forwards at Senior, Donie Smith, Senan Kilbride, Cathal Cregg, Ciaran Murtagh.

Shine still injured.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on January 29, 2015, 03:55:06 PM
The Celt's take on the McKiernan saga.

www.anglocelt.ie/sport/roundup/articles/2015/01/28/4035347-opinion-oneills-comments-have-hung-mckiernan-out-to-dry/

Hung out to dry?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on January 29, 2015, 04:29:43 PM
Quote from: Denn Forever on January 29, 2015, 03:55:06 PM
The Celt's take on the McKiernan saga.

www.anglocelt.ie/sport/roundup/articles/2015/01/28/4035347-opinion-oneills-comments-have-hung-mckiernan-out-to-dry/

Hung out to dry?

I don't think that anybody has been hung out to dry.

It probably has kept it in the news a little longer than it should.

What you thing Denn man?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on January 29, 2015, 04:54:08 PM
Hung out to dry my hole. Gearoid is dead lucky the rules only allowed for a 2 match ban.
Personally i think racist/sectarian abuse should added into thiscategory of offences:
"Category IV offences relate to a minor physical interference (e.g. laying a hand on, pushing, pulling or jostling) with a referee, umpire, linesman or sideline official, or aiming threatening language at a match official. They get you a 12-week ban, or 24 if you have some previous".

Anyway its good that he apologised to Wylie and Wylie accepted it and we can all move on.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on January 29, 2015, 05:02:59 PM
He was obviously going to apologize,  it was a reckless and needless tackle by Wylie on Martin Reilly that started it off, McKiernan shouldn't have said what he said though.

They should let McKiernan move and not drag it out anymore.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on January 29, 2015, 06:10:27 PM
His comment that they had a rule in place and now they know the rule isn't adequate is certainly a strange one. The punishment needs to be adequate and proportionate to the crime, they had the crime in mind when they set out this punishment, so is McKiernan to blame that they were incompetent rulemakers? It's equally as puzzling saying that someone should be forced to attend a racial awareness course. These are amateur players. I'm not condoning what McKiernan did and he has that side to him unfortunately. But the rush to come out of this looking good had drawn some extremely stupid statements from the president.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Old yeller on January 29, 2015, 06:11:04 PM
He was hung out to dry a bit I think. Did they print the names of the lads who abused Cunningham from Crossmaglen or Lee Chin from Wexford? I don't remember the president of the GAA making any comment on it in the papers. I don't condone that type of stuff, its not on. But he shouldn't be villified. He made a mistake in the heat of the moment. He apologised straight away and it was accepted. He took his punishment without a word of complaint, move on.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Old yeller on January 29, 2015, 06:19:02 PM
Quote from: Westside on January 29, 2015, 06:10:27 PM
His comment that they had a rule in place and now they know the rule isn't adequate is certainly a strange one. The punishment needs to be adequate and proportionate to the crime, they had the crime in mind when they set out this punishment, so is McKiernan to blame that they were incompetent rulemakers? It's equally as puzzling saying that someone should be forced to attend a racial awareness course. These are amateur players. I'm not condoning what McKiernan did and he has that side to him unfortunately. But the rush to come out of this looking good had drawn some extremely stupid statements from the president.
Its P.C bullshit. You have to be seen as being whiter than white all the time. He could easily have came out and said something like "he's a young lad who made a mistake. He has accepted that it was totally wrong and hopefully he wil learn from this experience. That sort of behaviour has no place in our games" etc.
What would be wrong with that? The associations position on it would've been made perfectly clear while accepting that McKiernan shouldnt be lynched for it.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on January 29, 2015, 07:10:13 PM
Gearoid did wrong in the heat of the moment. He was punished by a new law and served his punishment. What this has to do with the president of the organisation I don't know. Hes actually making a bigger idiot out of himself more than anything. However, by going on about it and making apologies on behalf of the GAA he is making Gearoid look to some super offender that the law was not good enough for while the reality is that Gearoid apologised and presumably everyone has moved on.

Anyway, the moral of the story is that Gearoid should have decked Wylie with an upper cut or told him his mother was a slag. Unlikely that Liam O Neill would feel the need to comment on the matter then.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on January 30, 2015, 01:01:05 PM
Quote from: tommysmith on January 29, 2015, 04:29:43 PM
Quote from: Denn Forever on January 29, 2015, 03:55:06 PM
The Celt's take on the McKiernan saga.

www.anglocelt.ie/sport/roundup/articles/2015/01/28/4035347-opinion-oneills-comments-have-hung-mckiernan-out-to-dry/

Hung out to dry?

I don't think that anybody has been hung out to dry.

It probably has kept it in the news a little longer than it should.

What you thing Denn man?

I think BHM and Myles has said it all.  I was expecting longer and would not quibble if he'd got longer. 
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on January 30, 2015, 01:11:44 PM
Quote from: Denn Forever on January 30, 2015, 01:01:05 PM
Quote from: tommysmith on January 29, 2015, 04:29:43 PM
Quote from: Denn Forever on January 29, 2015, 03:55:06 PM
The Celt's take on the McKiernan saga.

www.anglocelt.ie/sport/roundup/articles/2015/01/28/4035347-opinion-oneills-comments-have-hung-mckiernan-out-to-dry/

Hung out to dry?

I don't think that anybody has been hung out to dry.

It probably has kept it in the news a little longer than it should.

What you thing Denn man?

I think BHM and Myles has said it all.  I was expecting longer and would not quibble if he'd got longer.

But it was not possible to get a longer suspension the rules only allow for 2 games.

I think for cases like this and racism it shouldn't be a game ban it should be 48 weeks.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on January 30, 2015, 01:16:39 PM
If it was going to be 48 weeks, then they should get rid of all verbals, shouting about a mother or sister is a bad as someones religion or colour.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on January 30, 2015, 01:33:59 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on January 30, 2015, 01:16:39 PM
If it was going to be 48 weeks, then they should get rid of all verbals, shouting about a mother or sister is a bad as someones religion or colour.

Ryan McMenamin from Tyrone would never have played a game if that rule was in place. There will always be verbal abuse in sport between players. 48 weeks is a bit much but if I were to make a rule on it 2-4 games ban would seem fair enough to me. Look at it in the context of other bans. What do you get for punching someone in the face?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on January 30, 2015, 01:40:09 PM
Agree there will always be verbals,  and 48 weeks would be extreme
Racism and Secterian abuse are bigger issues and they be punished - they should look at all verbals instead of a few
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: five points on January 30, 2015, 06:11:12 PM
Quote from: tommysmith on January 30, 2015, 01:11:44 PM
But it was not possible to get a longer suspension the rules only allow for 2 games.


Not true. 2 games suspension is a minimum penalty. They could have thrown the book at him, but they didn't.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on January 30, 2015, 09:44:04 PM
Quote from: five points on January 30, 2015, 06:11:12 PM
Quote from: tommysmith on January 30, 2015, 01:11:44 PM
But it was not possible to get a longer suspension the rules only allow for 2 games.


Not true. 2 games suspension is a minimum penalty. They could have thrown the book at him, but they didn't.

On what grounds? No previous and apologised after the game. Her talking shite
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mrdeeds on January 31, 2015, 11:48:38 AM
Cavan team announced. Think Paul Smith can feel hard done by. Stong team though. Looks good on paper.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on January 31, 2015, 12:47:05 PM
It's rare the Cavan team annouced is what it is on the day of the game. Niall Murray would be unlucky to lose out too. But shows there is good competition for places
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on January 31, 2015, 12:53:30 PM
Happy enough with the team close enough to the best players we have available to us at present.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on January 31, 2015, 03:33:52 PM
If Mackey and Keating were in the side I would be much more confident.. As it is I think we will lack penetration. Unfortunately I think Lyng's day has gone.. Too ponderous on the ball and looking for the hollywood pass when keeping it simple would be a better option.

Murtagh and Enda Smyth didn't play for the U21s today so assume we'll be facing them tomorrow. Smyth tore us apart in the Championship last year.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on January 31, 2015, 04:25:20 PM
Smith will be better shackled tomorrow.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tierworker blue on January 31, 2015, 11:51:10 PM
I'll not make it down to Roscommon tomorrow. I'm still thawing out from Armagh last Saturday (both physically and mentally...Christ we had to listen to some moronic rubbish directed at our lads from the opposition's 'supporters' around us! Gas thing is, that hard and all as it was to listen to this year, last year's Final was worse...I've seen and heard a lot of auld guff at matches over the years, but that night took the biscuit!) Anyhoo, does anyone know if it'll be on the wireless?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on February 01, 2015, 08:32:33 AM
Quote from: tierworker blue on January 31, 2015, 11:51:10 PM
I'll not make it down to Roscommon tomorrow. I'm still thawing out from Armagh last Saturday (both physically and mentally...Christ we had to listen to some moronic rubbish directed at our lads from the opposition's 'supporters' around us! Gas thing is, that hard and all as it was to listen to this year, last year's Final was worse...I've seen and heard a lot of auld guff at matches over the years, but that night took the biscuit!) Anyhoo, does anyone know if it'll be on the wireless?

Same Tyrone supporters are probably calling for Mickey Hartes head this morning after the hiding Monaghan gave them. No doubt if we lose today too the loons on Hoganstand will be at the same thing. Some people are too stupid to be allowed into matches.
I'm going to Kiltoom anyway, if i get a chance I'll put out a summary here later. Game will be on Northern Sound and with Monaghan not playing it should be almost full coverage.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on February 01, 2015, 12:14:49 PM
Northern Sound/Shannonside will have it but with less colourfull language unless there a few "Hairy Marys".
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: beer baron on February 01, 2015, 02:14:18 PM
This commentator'd do the heart no good on a Sunday.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: comeysfield on February 01, 2015, 04:16:47 PM
A lot of heavy breathing from Damien Donohoe but great result
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mrdeeds on February 01, 2015, 04:20:32 PM
Good performance. Couple of shocking decisions against us from referee. Fergal Flanagan gave an immense performance. Forwards is a concern. Barry Reilly improved it.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on February 01, 2015, 09:05:19 PM
A good away point but really could have been two if it were not for Michael Duffys joke of a performance as referee. Cavan had a point waved wide and Ros had a wide waved as a point. I was right behind both and I'm fairly sure that they were both called wrongly against Cavan.

Roscommon were very defensive, a big team with 13 men behind the ball. We just could not get a ball to stick inside with Dunne and McDermott easily snuffed out almost for the whole game despite the fact that we had the lions share of possession. Killian Clarke for me was our best player, getting a hand to nearly every kickout, running at Roscommon and tackling hard. Mark McKeever had a nightmare and was taken off but not before he gave away 1-1 with terrible handpasses. Rory Dunne had a big battle with Kilbride, struggled early on with him but I think eventually he got on top.

We lost the 2nd quarter but kicked the last two points of the 1st half and we were only 2 down at half time. Barry Reilly came on at half time for McKeever and Hayes came on for Gunner (before he got the inevitable 2nd yellow). Barry got a lovely point, jinking between two defenders and scoring from distance. Gearoid got 4 outstanding trademark points but still the ball wouldnt stick inside. In the end Duffy kept Ros in it with frees as they totally ran out of ideas in attack in the 2nd half. Martin Reilly twice equalised in the last 2 minutes, one a fine score from the side line and the other a 45 but Martin missed another 3/4 and it wasn't his best day shooting although his work rate was phenomenal.

So good today was the fight and belief, Good in defence, At times we got some really good counter attacking scores, We scored a lot from 30m and further out and a really strong midfield partnership.

Bad was we played the whole game pretty much with a totally malfunctioning FF (not all their fault, the balls in were not great), winning maybe 1/10 balls. Also an awful lot of bad handpasses and poor decision making.

At the end of the day a point away is a great start and if we can beat Laois that will mean a super start to the year with 3 home games to come. The only thing is some teams I was expecting to lose acually won so it is going to be tough to get some points between us and the relegation zone.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Old yeller on February 02, 2015, 01:28:54 PM
Our inability to win the ball in the full forward line yesterday was sickening. As quick as it was being kicked in by the Cavan midfield/hal forwards,  the Roscommon defenders kicked it back out past them again. Must've been soul destroying for them
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Blue in hope on February 02, 2015, 01:44:34 PM
Quote from: Old yeller on February 02, 2015, 01:28:54 PM
Our inability to win the ball in the full forward line yesterday was sickening. As quick as it was being kicked in by the Cavan midfield/hal forwards,  the Roscommon defenders kicked it back out past them again. Must've been soul destroying for them

To be fair the ball into the full forward line was poor .One stage in the first half we had Dunne and Lyng inside and we pumped high ball in. Roscommon had always two men double marking  our two playing inside. We showed yesterday again that we have players who can score from 35-40 metres out. We should tyr it more often rather than playng across the pitch looking for the opening but instead getting overturned.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mrdeeds on February 02, 2015, 01:57:13 PM
Dunne didn't bother making a run in 2nd half. Lot of good ball went into McDermot but it didn't stick. Lyng is no corner forward. Starting him there and McVeety on 40 made no sense.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on February 02, 2015, 03:49:21 PM
Some people couldn't make the Roscpmmon game.  Both had tight finishes.

http://www.joe.ie/sport/pic-who-else-spotted-the-man-wearing-the-cavan-gaa-jersey-during-the-superbowl/483251



Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on February 02, 2015, 05:49:24 PM
Is Tom Hayes injured or is he being left to the U21s? Sounds like the inside forward line is a big problem. Corr came on for Martin Dunne, did they stick Gearoid inside and Corr to midfield?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mrdeeds on February 02, 2015, 06:10:35 PM
Gearoid went full forward.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on February 02, 2015, 10:49:26 PM
If we had gone for that game a bit more we could have won it. Think Gearoid went inside because he was wrecked but could have been some fun if they had let in a hail Mary to him.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mrdeeds on February 02, 2015, 11:03:54 PM
They had to get Dunne of. Wasn't a whole pile on bench in terms of forwards.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on February 03, 2015, 05:46:21 PM
What about Hayes, Enda Reilly Paul O'Connor, are they all injured? It's a bad state when you don't have a few inside forwards on the bench.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on February 03, 2015, 06:07:36 PM
Good few players involved in Sigerson action this week, hopefully no injuries for Laois
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on February 03, 2015, 06:35:55 PM
Enda Reilly was only other option on the bench, I thought 2nd half he could've been brought on but maybe he's injured?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Blue in hope on February 03, 2015, 07:38:20 PM
if Enda was injured he shouldn't have been on the bench,
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on February 03, 2015, 09:28:43 PM
McDermott came out on top against Faulkner and Flanagan in the Sigerson tonight.. http://t.co/xq68mskm3u


Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on February 05, 2015, 08:09:53 PM
Judging by Terrys interview last Sunday it seems he is thinking about utilising Argue in the forwards this year. Bit worrying to see him subbed at half time in the Sigerson, I can only presume he is struggling with an injury. Does anyone know what the story is?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Duckquay on February 05, 2015, 09:24:09 PM
Argue had a bit of a nightmare yesterday, didn't appear to be injured. In fairness, Flynn and o'brien are as good as there are out there at present. Monynagh was good throughout, one of dcu's standout men.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on February 06, 2015, 11:24:52 AM
No word on the Cavan team yet.. Laois team was named

1. Graham Brody (Portlaoise)

2. Padraig McMahon (Ballyroan Abbey)

3. Mark Timmons (Graiguecullen)

4. Robbie Kehoe (O'Dempsey's)

5. Darren Strong (Emo)

6. Gearoid Hanrahan (Mountmellick)

7. Colm Begley (Parnells)

8. Conor Boyle (Portlaoise)

9. John O'Loughlin (St Brigid's)

10. James Finn (Ballyfin)

11. Donal Kingston (Arles-Killeen)

12. Billy Sheehan (Emo)

13. Ross Munnelly (Arles-Kilcruise)

14. Evan O'Carroll (Crettyard)

15. Niall Donoher (Courtwood)


Colm Begley back in the team this week, missed the Westmeath game, Brendan Quigley suspended.  John O Loughlin is a good player in midfield, he will take watching, Darren Strong does a lot of attaking from half back

Munnelly and Donie Kingston are 2 dangerous forwards. Evan O' Carroll handy too, U21 player.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on February 06, 2015, 01:37:50 PM
Dick Clerkin on why he hates Cavan http://t.co/Fh3eRLvxjB

He always played like a bull in a China Shop against Cavan, might explain it.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: beer baron on February 06, 2015, 03:29:34 PM
I edited that for ya Rodney.

Dick Clerkin on why he hates Cavan http://t.co/Fh3eRLvxjB

He always played like a bull in a China Shop.

;D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on February 06, 2015, 05:15:44 PM
True :D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on February 07, 2015, 11:16:27 AM
Team to play Laois.

Conor Gilsenan (Bailieboro), Jason McLoughlin (Shannon Gaels), Rory Dunne (Redhills), Dara McVeety (Crosserlough), Fergal Flanagan (Butlersbridge), Damien O'Reilly (Belturbet), Killian Brady (Mullahoran), Killian Clarke (Shercock), Gearoid McKiernan (Swanlinbar), Martin Reilly (Killygarry), Michéal Lyng (Cavan Gaels), Mark McKeever (Gowna), Ronan Flanagan (Castlerahan), Martin Dunne (Cavan Gaels), Niall McDermott (Ballinagh).
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Old yeller on February 07, 2015, 09:25:09 PM
Quote from: beer baron on February 06, 2015, 03:29:34 PM
I edited that for ya Rodney.

Dick Clerkin on why he hates Cavan http://t.co/Fh3eRLvxjB

He always played like a bull in a China Shop.

;D

I'd love to have a 20 year old Dick Clerkin on the Cavan panel.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on February 08, 2015, 12:28:54 AM
A very assured display from Cavan tonight and a great 2 points on the road. Paul Smith replaced Lyng (and played very well) other than that we lined out with the 15 from last week. Got off to the worst possible start, Gilly came off his line for a ball into the square that Kingston and Dunne were contesting, Kingston got the flick and into the net. We took almost complete control from then on, pushed well ahead Damien Reilly and McDermott kicking a few wonderful scores.

We made it very hard for Laois to get their game going from the kickouts, pushed up on their players and we were were well on top in midfield when they went long. Paul Smith missed a golden opportunity for a goal. Then Laois cut us open with an incisive move and Kingston held off Dunne and kicked a lovely goal into the top corner from a tight angle, Gilly caught slightly in no man's land. Kingston was a threat throughout and gave Rory a bit of a roasting it has to be said, he was taken off midway through the second half. The referee was woeful in the first half, I think it was 5 times he blew for overcarrying by Cavan players when there wasn't even a suggestion of overcarrying. He seemed to cop onto himself a bit in the second half.

Barry Reilly came on for McKeever at half time, McKeever hadn't been playing great, few wayward passes and one that led straight to a Laois score. Laois crept ahead and we looked lost for the first 10 minutes or so of the second half but McEnroe came on for Dunne and was immense at midfield. We completely dominated the middle third for the last 25 minutes of the game, Laois couldn't get a hold of the ball at all. Killian Brady was outstanding, brings real physicality and doggedness. McVeety and McLoughlin were also very good throughout and caused lots of problems raiding forward. McVeety in particular won lots of ball that he had no right to win and McLoughlin dived on a loose ball near the very end as a Laois player pulled on it, putting his head where you wouldn't put a shovel.

Martin Reilly had a good first half got on a lot of ball, he was moved inside for the second half but didn't see much possession. Dunne was extremely poor, Barry Reilly gave two or three lovely long passes into him and he was beaten for every one. A couple of nice touches and a good free but other than that he contributed very little, Jack came on for him and won the two balls that went into him in the final few minutes. Gearoid was fairly quiet and Laois were well prepared for him raiding forward. Killian Clarke blew hot and cold throughout but overall did well and is staking his claim to that midfield spot. Gearoid seems to have completely lost any interest in fielding and attempts to break every ball, I suppose you can't complain when we're dominating that sector of the field.

Overall it was a slick and mostly assured performance from the lads. The approach is obviously a lot more offensive than we've seen in the last couple of years. A lot of good performances from McVeety, McLoughlin, Feargal Flanagan, DJ, Paul Smith with Killian the Gunner man of the match for me and a special mention for McEnroe who gave us the platform for our dominance in the last third of the game. Inside forward line is still a worry and when you see the advantage of having a target man like Kingston inside it would make you want Keating back in the fold. Laois actually looked a lot more physically imposing than us but we still had more cut and desire than them. Still a good way to go before being safe and Laois were poor enough but 3 points from the first two games isn't half bad.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on February 08, 2015, 09:10:36 AM
Agree with that Westside. Although we won comfortably and put together 2 seperate dominate periods in the game we were really another 6 points better than Laois and kept them in the game with some poor shooting and some poor play in the last quarter of the field. This result was achieved again with a disfunctional full forward line. Martin Dunne haardly touched the ball the entire match and McDermott lost a number of balls he should have held onto and got blocked down. McDermott seemed to lose confidence as  the game went on and started passing to guys in worse positions to shoot than he was. Niall is a very good player, he needs to move on and get his mojo back and start taking responsibility. Dunne is hard to know what to do with. He scored one tremendous free and he will score if the ball is in his hands but he is very weak, doesnt have any power. In one instance yesterday he was 4 yards ahead of the FB running out for a ball and the full back went past him like a bullet, won the ball clean and tore up the field.

Two shitty goals nearly cost us. The first poor calling from Gilsenan and Dunne left a simple flick to the net. The second was like the goal we conceded to Roscommon in Croke park last year. For me it was a fluke, no one tries to chip a keep with the instep. Looked like an attempt for a point that squeezed in the top corner. Gilsenan was poorly positioned.  He also had a couple of very poor quick kicks. Not sure about Gilsenan to be honest.

We won this game in midfield in the 2nd half. I thought Killian Clarke was brilliant in the 2nd half yet again. McEnroe and to a lesser extent barry Reilly put some intelligence into Cavans play. They play the game at their own pace, generally move the ball forwards at the right time. McEnroe in particular ate his man when he came on, got two beauties of points and just owned the game. The Gunner had his best game for Cavan. He gave his man such a abuse  that I think in the end he was just letting him have the ball. One turn over in the 2nd half had the crowd on his feet, when gunner just kept ploughing into his man till he dropped the ball on the ground. Poor old Gunner nearly lasted the the whole game too with getting sent off or taken off, but alas he got a black card with 2 seconds left!!

All in all a great result and a great start to the league. We can play Down with confidence and I believe we can beat them and if we do promotion is a real prospect although it is safety first.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on February 08, 2015, 11:24:32 AM
Great win and it's clear that Cavan are playing more direct football with Liam McHale involved.

I don't think Givney is that much of  a loss (he wasn't playing well anyway), Killian Clarke a more then able replacement at midfield. Argue could be tried in the FF line after the 3 week break, good option to have in there.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Old yeller on February 08, 2015, 03:02:29 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on February 08, 2015, 11:24:32 AM
Great win and it's clear that Cavan are playing more direct football with Liam McHale involved.

I don't think Givney is that much of  a loss (he wasn't playing well anyway), Killian Clarke a more then able replacement at midfield. Argue could be tried in the FF line after the 3 week break, good option to have in there.
+1
We need to try something different in the full forward line
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: comeysfield on February 08, 2015, 07:48:39 PM
Read the Clerkin piece and you just have to love him. He will have no problem getting himself up for Breffni in the Summer.  As for Laois on Saturday evening went down for the trip. Cavan were impressive but Laois were absolutely dreadful with a full forward we could be a force, we need to find somebody in there. Niall especially second half came way too deep but that is the role he is being asked to play. The Gunner was a real Gunner and MOM in my opinion. Three points leave us in a nice position and if we can get a win at home in the next game will place us in a good position to retain div 2 and then maybe look up the table
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on February 08, 2015, 08:01:07 PM
Quote from: comeysfield on February 08, 2015, 07:48:39 PM
Read the Clerkin piece and you just have to love him. He will have no problem getting himself up for Breffni in the Summer.  As for Laois on Saturday evening went down for the trip. Cavan were impressive but Laois were absolutely dreadful with a full forward we could be a force, we need to find somebody in there. Niall especially second half came way too deep but that is the role he is being asked to play. The Gunner was a real Gunner and MOM in my opinion. Three points leave us in a nice position and if we can get a win at home in the next game will place us in a good position to retain div 2 and then maybe look up the table

McDermott was deep in the 2nd because he was switched with Martin Reilly who went full forward.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on February 08, 2015, 08:06:56 PM
Was that tactical or was Martin Reilly carrying an injury? He was playing well in the first half I thought.

Out of the games that are left, Down and Westmeath at home are the ones I think we are very capable of winning. It's always nip and tuck with both sides but no reason we can't beat them in Breffni. I think Kildare will come good yet, we struggled with Laois's physicality last night and Kildare will bring that and more to Breffni. Galway away will also be tough, good footballing side and seem to be racking up big scores.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mrdeeds on February 08, 2015, 08:10:06 PM
Hopefully Corofin beat Vincents so they be missing Cavan game.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on February 08, 2015, 09:33:41 PM
Remaining League fixtures

Round 3 (28 February/1 March): Cavan v Down, Galway v Laois, Kildare v Westmeath, Roscommon v Meath
Round 4 (7/8 March): Cavan v Kildare, Down v Galway, Laois v Roscommon, Meath v Westmeath
Round 5 (14/15 March): Galway v Cavan, Kildare v Roscommon, Meath v Laois, Westmeath v Down
Round 6 (28/29 March): Cavan v Westmeath, Down v Meath, Laois v Kildare, Roscommon v Galway
Round 7 (5 April): Down v Laois, Galway v Kildare, Meath v Cavan, Westmeath v Roscommon

Tough but winnable games, Kildare have  a few injuries at present, and a few others to come back in like Emmet Bolton, and Daniel Flynn, which will strenghten  them

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on February 08, 2015, 09:39:24 PM
Quote from: Westside on February 08, 2015, 08:06:56 PM
Was that tactical or was Martin Reilly carrying an injury? He was playing well in the first half I thought.

Out of the games that are left, Down and Westmeath at home are the ones I think we are very capable of winning. It's always nip and tuck with both sides but no reason we can't beat them in Breffni. I think Kildare will come good yet, we struggled with Laois's physicality last night and Kildare will bring that and more to Breffni. Galway away will also be tough, good footballing side and seem to be racking up big scores.

I think it was tactical, just to try get McDermott on the ball and also to see could Martin win some ball inside. I didn't see any injury anyway, Martin was running hard for the time he was in the full forward line
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on February 08, 2015, 09:44:28 PM
McDermott played a Sigerson game mid week, so Reilly would have been fresher to make runs inside in the FF line, and probaly winning it better.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on February 11, 2015, 06:05:29 PM
Moynagh playing well with DCU, set up a goal in the clip http://t.co/a81yEw862F
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on February 14, 2015, 04:21:33 PM
St pats into mcrory semi, hammered eunans by 14 points today.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: FermGael on February 14, 2015, 08:58:06 PM
Was young mcmanus from teemore playing itchy?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on February 14, 2015, 11:21:23 PM
He was Centre back.

http://ulstercollegesgaa.org/football/easy-enough-macrory-cavan/

Pats played Eunans in the League and won by 3, Eunans missing 4key players through suspension from the play off game with Pats Armagh, was obviously going to effect them..
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on February 16, 2015, 01:28:26 AM
Have Pats a realistic shot at going all the way?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on February 16, 2015, 01:28:10 PM
According to the Indo, we're classy.

http://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/classy-st-patricks-cavan-lay-down-an-early-marker-30994467.html
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on February 17, 2015, 04:08:01 PM
Yeah this  team won the Rannafast so have a very good chance. The age difference between the Southern and Northern schoools meant Pats always struggled in the MacRory. They brought in transition year which has been a help, Thomas Galligan, Pierce Smith would be finished otherwise.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on February 17, 2015, 06:28:30 PM
Even with transition year, are some of these lads repeating the leaving?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on February 17, 2015, 06:58:37 PM
No, not that I know of. And if did do transition year they wouldn't be repeating as well, be 7 years in secondary school. Transition year is a 6 year programme.

Greg McGovern might have been repeating last year. He came from Bawnboy. All that Pats  team have been there since first year, bar Argue who came last year.

MacRory Cup is u18 1/2 at . http://www.google.ie/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0CCMQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FMacRory_Cup&ei=b5bjVMH5LeeR7AbBvIDgCA&usg=AFQjCNG0iPukLGauBZaUOf6DbhutF1zWTw&bvm=bv.85970519,d.ZGU

This was the team that won the rannafast

B Sheanon, J Rahill, D Lunney, P Sexton, D Monaghan, C McManus [1-1], J Veale [0-2], T Galligan [0-1], D Brady, P Smith [0-2], R Connolly [0-1], M McKenna [1-2], D Gannon [0-1], B Conaty [1-0], R O'Reilly [1-0].

Connolly, Ronan Reilly, Dara Gannon no longer there. They didn't do transition year

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mrdeeds on February 17, 2015, 09:01:07 PM
Some repeated fifth year.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on February 17, 2015, 09:08:01 PM
The lads that repeated wouldn't have done transition year.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on February 22, 2015, 09:24:58 PM
St Joes well bet today in ulster U21 final against the magnificent underage outfit that is watty grahams. How are Derry not translating this into victory at minor and u21 county level?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on February 24, 2015, 01:26:31 PM
Derry should be doing better at co minor but success of Pats Maghera affected them in the last few years, got to 2 Hogan cup finals in 2013& 14 and had little time to prepare collectively.  Kerry managed it well  last year as they let the school players from Dingle train with the Co minors whilst the school was doing well.

Derry u21s don't hold back on their u21s unlike Cavan, who keep the panel together and not on the Senior panel during the league. That doesn't help their preperation
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on February 25, 2015, 07:08:11 PM
Anyone else think Moynagh was poor enough in the Sigerson Final?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on February 25, 2015, 07:41:26 PM
I missed the first 15 minutes but thought he played well, won some dirty ball at vital periods.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on February 25, 2015, 07:45:07 PM
2 tough games in 2 days tough going this time of year, he was fairly solid,  tired in extra time, but that was to be expected

Goodluck to Pats on Sunday In MacRory semi , 45 years since they last made the final.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on February 28, 2015, 11:31:09 AM
Big game tonight, really hope the lads can keep the good run going and I hope our FF line is improved as Down will be no push overs and they know another loss will dump them into relegation trouble. Its going to be a windy night too. That 3 week break will also be a leveller in terms of fitness so we will get a good look at where we really are tonight. I think a win is awful important as I think Kildare will be a big ask next weekend.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on February 28, 2015, 01:19:40 PM
Cavan (FL Division 2 v Down) – Conor Gilsenan; Jason McLoughlin, Rory Dunne, Killian Brady; Ronan Flanagan, Fergal Flanagan, Damien O'Reilly; Killian Clarke, Gearoid McKiernan; Paul Smith, Dara McVeety, Martin Reilly; Micheal Lyng, Martin Dunne, Niall McDermott.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on March 01, 2015, 10:19:04 AM
Wasn't able to make the match in person yesterday but did watch it on TV. Such a frustrating performance from Cavan. I know the conditions were horrible but even they cannot make up for some of the terrible decision making and poor passing we displayed. I'm not sure what Terry is playing at with Martin Dunne, he is clearly a total waste of a jersey in conditions like that. Even ball he was 80:20 to win yesterday he was losing and then some of the idiotic shots he was taking, especially in the first half, were ridiculous. McDermott worked hard and won a lot of ball but its the end product and decision making again that is the problem. Niall won't take a man on for example and some of his passing once he won the ball were very poor. This is the 3rd game in a row where this was the case with Dunne & McDermott. Elsewhere we were also poor. Clarke was quiet but I understand he was recovering from Flu. Gearoid was also poor, missed two good chances and did very little in the match. All around the field key players were well of  the standard - Martin Reilly for example did very little. Down were not much better either but for a goal which somehow left a man on the 6 yard box with no one near him and that was that. Given both teams were poor the sending off had a big bearing on the result. Both cards were extremely harsh and were more to do with the spectacular falls than fouls (i've had the benefit of replays).

Someone also needs to tell Gilsenan he cannot pick the ball of the ground outside the small box, he did it twice and got away with it both time - very lucky. Downs forward also touched the ball on the ground on the lead up to their goal though!

I fear a little for us now. Can't see us beating Kildare and we have no options in the forwards that I can see to improve things too much. If we lose that we will be right in the relegation dog fight with only one home game left.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on March 01, 2015, 11:12:08 AM
Welcome to the big boys league.

Disappointing end to the game when we'd drawn level.  Only listened to on the radio but we seemed to revert to the old habit of going around the garden before trying a shot especially when we seemed  to have lost that habit  in the last two games.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on March 01, 2015, 12:58:55 PM
Don't think Down are a "big boy" Denn. I thought they were pretty poor too but they put in a good last quarter when we were a man down and deserved their win. The problem with us is we know the problems we have, but I'm not sure we have the personnel to fix it. I think Terry needs to get on the blower to Givney and Keating and see would they reconsider their decisions as right now we are very one dimensional and predictable in the forwards and I know Monaghan will snuff us out easily in the championship too unless we change something.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on March 01, 2015, 01:01:59 PM
I always like to give management the benefit of the doubt but I really wonder why they are persisting with Dunne.. There is a lack of options certainly and he did well for his two points but other than that we were basically carrying a man in the full forward line. I think choosing to play against the wind in the first half was a good plan but backfired in that the wind and rain had eased slightly and Down didn't find conditions as tough playing against the wind. An extremely harsh red card and woeful conditions conspired against us, but even so we didn't show enough to deserve a result.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on March 01, 2015, 03:55:31 PM
Better day today for us. Kildare beaten, St pats through to mcrory final and ladies do 4 in a row by trouncing down.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on March 01, 2015, 10:26:32 PM
Poor call to send off Flanagan, the player was going to ground before Flanagan touched him, the ground conditions given the weather and all meant it was hard to stay up. Referee should have shown a bit of sense

Good win for Pats, article on the Pats Senior team from back in 07 http://t.co/lrMEz9aj67
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Old yeller on March 03, 2015, 09:48:11 AM
Quote from: rodney trotter on March 01, 2015, 10:26:32 PM
Poor call to send off Flanagan, the player was going to ground before Flanagan touched him, the ground conditions given the weather and all meant it was hard to stay up. Referee should have shown a bit of sense

Good win for Pats, article on the Pats Senior team from back in 07 http://t.co/lrMEz9aj67
I was at the game and thought Flanagan deserved a yellow for the second foul. High tackle. As for Dunne, forget about him. Has he ever taken on his man and beat him? As someone said, he cant win 80-20 balls never mind 50-50 ones! McDermot not going great at the minute either, they have only scored a few points from play between them. The conditions were terrible in fairness the other night. The wind was very strong,  particularly in the first half.
We are basically playing without a full forward line at the minute. Why not stick Argue in there? Keating and Givney would be some addition to it
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on March 03, 2015, 09:56:50 AM
Quote from: Old yeller on March 03, 2015, 09:48:11 AM
Quote from: rodney trotter on March 01, 2015, 10:26:32 PM
Poor call to send off Flanagan, the player was going to ground before Flanagan touched him, the ground conditions given the weather and all meant it was hard to stay up. Referee should have shown a bit of sense

Good win for Pats, article on the Pats Senior team from back in 07 http://t.co/lrMEz9aj67
I was at the game and thought Flanagan deserved a yellow for the second foul. High tackle. As for Dunne, forget about him. Has he ever taken on his man and beat him? As someone said, he cant win 80-20 balls never mind 50-50 ones! McDermot not going great at the minute either, they have only scored a few points from play between them. The conditions were terrible in fairness the other night. The wind was very strong,  particularly in the first half.
We are basically playing without a full forward line at the minute. Why not stick Argue in there? Keating and Givney would be some addition to it

Did you not see the replays of it on Tg4 last night? Down people were surprised he was put off
Flanagan made no contact. Down probaly the better team on the night but the sending off was a turning point. Cavan were coming strong at that stage

Keating could be back on the panel yet, it was said at the time there was a possibility he could still play County football this year, when he left. I doubt Giveny will be playing County football this year though.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Old yeller on March 03, 2015, 03:37:04 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on March 03, 2015, 09:56:50 AM
Quote from: Old yeller on March 03, 2015, 09:48:11 AM
Quote from: rodney trotter on March 01, 2015, 10:26:32 PM
Poor call to send off Flanagan, the player was going to ground before Flanagan touched him, the ground conditions given the weather and all meant it was hard to stay up. Referee should have shown a bit of sense

Good win for Pats, article on the Pats Senior team from back in 07 http://t.co/lrMEz9aj67
I was at the game and thought Flanagan deserved a yellow for the second foul. High tackle. As for Dunne, forget about him. Has he ever taken on his man and beat him? As someone said, he cant win 80-20 balls never mind 50-50 ones! McDermot not going great at the minute either, they have only scored a few points from play between them. The conditions were terrible in fairness the other night. The wind was very strong,  particularly in the first half.
We are basically playing without a full forward line at the minute. Why not stick Argue in there? Keating and Givney would be some addition to it

Did you not see the replays of it on Tg4 last night? Down people were surprised he was put off
Flanagan made no contact. Down probaly the better team on the night but the sending off was a turning point. Cavan were coming strong at that stage

Keating could be back on the panel yet, it was said at the time there was a possibility he could still play County football this year, when he left. I doubt Giveny will be playing County football this year though.
I haven't seen a single replay of it to be honest, im just going by how it looked in real time. I agree that it changed the game, we had gotten well on top at that point I thought.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on March 03, 2015, 10:42:17 PM
So how bad are Kildare, you'd have to believe their will be a backlash at this stage or they are heading to Div 3. Down have shown them how to beat us. I think we are going to struggle and given that McEnroe played no part and Mackey was only bizarrely introduced for 2 minutes, that neither of those guys is ready for next Saturday. I can only presume Jack Brady was also injured. Not too hopeful but only positive is that Kildare have to be low on confidence so if we can get a good start maybe we can heap more doubt on them. I'd look at the following team...

Gilsenan
McLoughlin
Dunne
Hayes
Damien Reilly
McEnroe
Fergal Flanagan
Clarke
McKiernan
McVeety
Lyng/Jack Brady
Barry Reilly
Ronan Flanagan (Sweeper)
McDermott
Martin Reilly

Martin Reilly is a marked man out the field so I'd try him in FF line, great man to win a dirty ball. Dunne is not at the races. HF line is a bit light granted. Maybe move Damien Reilly to HF and bring in Gunner at wing back with strict instructions never to kick the ball! What ye reckon.





Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on March 04, 2015, 03:49:15 PM
All I hope is that they go back to trying to score points from distance like they did against Laois.  Also kick the ball dead so the Goalie can't start attacks.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on March 05, 2015, 07:26:01 PM
If Cavan manager Terry Hyland were running an economy, he would deploy a low-spend, low-tax model.

That's the obvious conclusion to be reached from some remarkable scoring trends produced by his squad over recent seasons. By the time they line up against Kildare in Kingspan Breffni Park on Saturday evening, they will have gone seven hours and 12 minutes without scoring a league goal.

Their last league goal came against Longford in the Round 5 of last year's campaign. Since then, they have drawn a blank against Roscommon (twice) and Limerick in Division 3 and against Roscommon, Laois and Down in Division 2 this season.

They scored one goal in three championship outings last year against Armagh, Westmeath and Roscommon, having earlier hit a total of four goals in eight league games.

The goal shyness goes back to 2013 when they scored four goals in their last six league games before notching another four in seven championship games. Even then, one of the championship goals was scored in extra-time against Derry.

Excluding that goal, it leaves Cavan's total for their last 27 league and championship ties at 12. That's an average of one goal every two hours and 37 minutes.

The goal-shortage saga is completed by Cavan's failure to score two goals in a league or championship game since the opening round (v Antrim) of the 2013 league. Ironically, they lost that game, whereas they have done well overall since then.

Promotion

They reached the 2013 All-Ireland quarter-final for the first time and clinched promotion to Division 2 last year. And while they lost to Down last Saturday, they had taken three of a possible four points in the first two rounds, keeping them very much in the promotion race.

While Cavan's goal rate has been very low, the defensive side of their game remains impressively solid. Their average giveaway in three league games this year was 13.3 points. They were even meaner in Division 3 last year, conceding a total of 1-67 (70 points) in seven games before Roscommon enjoyed more freedom against them in the final in Croke Park, scoring 1-17.

Striking the balance between building a secure defence while also releasing enough energy to power the attacking generator remains a big test for Hyland if Cavan are to advance in the manner the supporters expect after watching so much fine U-21 talent emerge over recent years.

Four successive Ulster U-21 titles have come Cavan's way since 2011, raising hopes in the county that presenting the Sam Maguire Cup to a fellow-county man will be one of happy duties for new GAA president Aogan O Fearghail.

Former Mayo star Liam McHale is working with Cavan this year and, presumably, increasing the goal rate will be on his agenda after such a long low-yield run.


Hopefully this trend changes sooner then later.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on March 07, 2015, 09:26:03 AM
Its easy for some journalist in Dublin to write this type of stuff and it is of course factually true. The problem is that Cavan are very very short on players for the full forward line. McDermott is not a natural full forward and Dunne is not a player that will beat a man. To open up the full back line you need players with pace and power. If the journalist in question knows of any forwards in Cavan with pace and power then he should let us know. For me the best we have available is on the panel. Now that being said we need to try to do something different in that full forward line as it has not functioned for 3 games now. We need to try something different and we need to do it now, not in the summer against Monaghan.

I have a lot of time for Terry and what he has done but for me he has been too slow to address this glaring weakness. Terrys own flaw in my opinion is that he is slow to change - to a point I can understand that as you do need consistency.

If I were in charge of the team I'd look at Martin Reilly and McDermott inside (especially if its going to be windy), I'd try and play against the wind and maybe introduce Dunne in the 2nd half with the wind. If McEnroe is fit he needs to play. I'd get Moynagh in there to put in some quality balls.

Unfortunately I think we will likely see more of the same and I would be very sceptical of us getting a result against a Kildare team that has to win for survival.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on March 07, 2015, 10:55:03 AM
http://www.google.ie/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0CCAQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.northernsound.ie%2Fsport%2Fmickey-graham-believes-cavan-will-keep-promotion-alive-in-division-2%2F&ei=7df6VIjQKJOu7Aaq_IHQDQ&usg=AFQjCNFWM3nDoNj23nm0w_tYqa2BcNre_g&bvm=bv.87611401,d.ZGU

Player like Graham would be handy inside.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on March 07, 2015, 11:08:55 AM
Kildare are mentally frail. Get ahead early and put the pressure on them. Don't see why we can't win.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on March 07, 2015, 12:12:37 PM
Conor Gilsenan (Bailieboro), Jason McLoughlin (Shannon Gaels), Rory Dunne (Redhills), Killian Brady (Mullahoran), Ronan Flanagan (Castlerahan), Fearghal Flanagan (Butlersbridge), Damien O'Reilly (Belturbet), Gearoid McKiernan (Swanlinbar), Killian Clarke (Shercock), Paul Smith (Castlerahan), Dara McVeety (Crosserlough), Martin Reilly (Killygarry), Barry Reilly (Kingscourt), Martin Dunne (Cavan Gaels), Niall McDermott (Ballinagh).

McEnrooe musn't be at full fitness yet. He would be starting otherwise.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Donnellys Hollow on March 07, 2015, 01:01:20 PM
Kildare look a very disjointed team at the moment and we've picked a full forward line with no natural scorer in it. I'd say the bookies have it about right and would expect Cavan to edge a low scoring game by a few points.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Old yeller on March 07, 2015, 01:04:54 PM
I wonder will the kildare fans be queueing up outside Breifni to get Jelly's autograph like last time?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Donnellys Hollow on March 07, 2015, 01:11:41 PM
We certainly won't be racking up 3-20 like last time anyway.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on March 07, 2015, 01:32:53 PM
Barry Reilly is too light, heavy pitch, strong wind, physical opposition. It'll be attritional, I'd rather see Corr or McEnroe if available. Kildare will be very dangerous and will have to go for broke tonight or else face Division 3 next year. We need to see more from Dunne tonight, I would back Terry to the hilt in his decisions usually but his insistence in persisting with Dunne who isn't performing anywhere near good enough is frustrating.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on March 07, 2015, 01:42:09 PM
Quote from: Donnellys Hollow on March 07, 2015, 01:11:41 PM
We certainly won't be racking up 3-20 like last time anyway.

Will you be bringing your "we love Seanie" posters?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on March 07, 2015, 01:48:12 PM
Quote from: Itchy on March 07, 2015, 01:42:09 PM
Quote from: Donnellys Hollow on March 07, 2015, 01:11:41 PM
We certainly won't be racking up 3-20 like last time anyway.

Will you be bringing your "we love Seanie" posters?

No need for the digs. Donnellys hollow was against the transfer anyway
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Donnellys Hollow on March 07, 2015, 02:00:32 PM
Quote from: Itchy on March 07, 2015, 01:42:09 PM
Quote from: Donnellys Hollow on March 07, 2015, 01:11:41 PM
We certainly won't be racking up 3-20 like last time anyway.

Will you be bringing your "we love Seanie" posters?

No but I can bring 18 months worth of post and junk mail from a vacant apartment in Straffan if it's any use to you?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on March 07, 2015, 02:03:13 PM
Only a bit of banter, rodders. DH - there's probably a few boxes of teabags in the house too that u can drop back to him.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Donnellys Hollow on March 07, 2015, 02:04:37 PM
Quote from: Itchy on March 07, 2015, 02:03:13 PM
Only a bit of banter, rodders. DH - there's probably a few boxes of teabags in the house too that u can drop back to him.

I very much doubt that a Cavanman would be leaving unused teabags after him!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on March 07, 2015, 02:31:05 PM
Quote from: Donnellys Hollow on March 07, 2015, 02:04:37 PM
Quote from: Itchy on March 07, 2015, 02:03:13 PM
Only a bit of banter, rodders. DH - there's probably a few boxes of teabags in the house too that u can drop back to him.

I very much doubt that a Cavanman would be leaving unused teabags after him!
Was he not a Kildare man at the time?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Donnellys Hollow on March 07, 2015, 02:35:58 PM
Quote from: Itchy on March 07, 2015, 02:31:05 PM
Quote from: Donnellys Hollow on March 07, 2015, 02:04:37 PM
Quote from: Itchy on March 07, 2015, 02:03:13 PM
Only a bit of banter, rodders. DH - there's probably a few boxes of teabags in the house too that u can drop back to him.

I very much doubt that a Cavanman would be leaving unused teabags after him!
Was he not a Kildare man at the time?

You can take the man out of.........

I'd say he brought his hurl back home with him and used it for firewood!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: big balla on March 07, 2015, 05:27:32 PM
Quote from: Donnellys Hollow on March 07, 2015, 02:35:58 PM
Quote from: Itchy on March 07, 2015, 02:31:05 PM
Quote from: Donnellys Hollow on March 07, 2015, 02:04:37 PM
Quote from: Itchy on March 07, 2015, 02:03:13 PM
Only a bit of banter, rodders. DH - there's probably a few boxes of teabags in the house too that u can drop back to him.

I very much doubt that a Cavanman would be leaving unused teabags after him!
Was he not a Kildare man at the time?

You can take the man out of.........

I'd say he brought his hurl back home with him and used it for firewood!
I know what shouldve been done with his hurl! :o
This is a big game for Cavan and Hyland. If he doesn't do something to fix the full forward line it will be hard to keep the faith much longer, we need them scoring. 3 points from play between Dunne and Mcdermot is a poor return. Is Argue fit? I would stick him into the full forward line and let him cause some bother. Saving the U-21s is all well and good but at this stage would we rather win another Ulster U21 or stay in Div 2?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on March 07, 2015, 09:11:07 PM
Another disappointing day for us. Two key moments went against us, firstly the penalty which I felt was pretty harsh but when the ball broke  the referee clearly impeded the Cavan defender who tried to go down on the ball, it breaks to Kildare and in the net. (at the end of the 2nd half when he interfered with a Cavan attack he threw up the ball). That aside the red card for Damien O Reilly was the killer. Damien needs to have a long hard look at himself as this was totally stupid and gave Kildare a chance against the wind. It could be a big red card as it may be the one that gets us relegated. 

A couple of professional fouls by Kildare prevented us getting in for a goal which may have made a game of it.

In fairness to Cavan we tried something different in the forwards but it just didn't work as the ball in was not good enough. McDermott does so much right but then foolishly runs into contact and gets turned over. Martin Reilly doing the same. I really worry for us now, hard to see where the next 3 points are going to come from.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: big balla on March 07, 2015, 10:28:05 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on March 07, 2015, 09:11:07 PM
Another disappointing day for us. Two key moments went against us, firstly the penalty which I felt was pretty harsh but when the ball broke  the referee clearly impeded the Cavan defender who tried to go down on the ball, it breaks to Kildare and in the net. (at the end of the 2nd half when he interfered with a Cavan attack he threw up the ball). That aside the red card for Damien O Reilly was the killer. Damien needs to have a long hard look at himself as this was totally stupid and gave Kildare a chance against the wind. It could be a big red card as it may be the one that gets us relegated. 

A couple of professional fouls by Kildare prevented us getting in for a goal which may have made a game of it.

In fairness to Cavan we tried something different in the forwards but it just didn't work as the ball in was not good enough. McDermott does so much right but then foolishly runs into contact and gets turned over. Martin Reilly doing the same. I really worry for us now, hard to see where the next 3 points are going to come from.
Dont think the ref beat us but the goal was a joke. A clear throw ball. Thr difference today was that Kildare took their scores from distance when they had the wind, Cavan were unable to do the same. Cavan hadnt a clue how to play with the wind, nothing learned from last week. Damien O'Reilly's red might have been a small bit harsh i thought, but if you do stupid shit like that you are leaving yourself open to it. Why did he get involved? I think we might have gotten something out of the game if he hadn't been sent off. Kildare are a good strong side and had the edge over us in the physical side of things. It really highlighted how much of a loss Givney and Keating are. Both are big, strong ball winners and could have made the difference tonight.
I think we are going backwards at the minute and I'm dreading the thoughts of Monaghan. What can the management do to improve things? Who else can they bring in?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Donnellys Hollow on March 07, 2015, 10:33:48 PM
Who's the Cavan Maor Foirne lads? He'll do himself a bad turn one of these days if he's as animated as that all the time.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on March 07, 2015, 10:41:46 PM
Reilly would want to stop getting involved in the niggling stuff. He was sent off against Fermanagh in 2013 after less ten minutes. A big set back when he went off today, .. the delivery of ball into the full forward was poor, Clark hardly touched while he was in there.

Cavan need more physical athletic players but they don't fall from the sky. The 4 u21 winning teams have produced a lot of pacy players but on the small side, need more then that at Senior.

Cribbin and Flynn were good for Kildare, and Niall Kelly early on.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Old yeller on March 07, 2015, 10:54:34 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on March 07, 2015, 10:41:46 PM
Reilly would want to stop getting involved in the niggling stuff. He was sent off against Fermanagh in 2013 after less ten minutes. A big set back when he went off today, .. the delivery of ball into the full forward was poor, Clark hardly touched while he was in there.

Cavan need more physical athletic players but they don't fall from the sky. The 4 u21 winning teams have produced a lot of pacy players but on the small side, need more then that at Senior.

Cribbin and Flynn were good for Kildare, and Niall Kelly early on.
I think we are in freefall at the minute. 2 points from play from the forward line tonight, not good enough
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on March 08, 2015, 10:40:27 AM
Quote from: Donnellys Hollow on March 07, 2015, 10:33:48 PM
Who's the Cavan Maor Foirne lads? He'll do himself a bad turn one of these days if he's as animated as that all the time.

Is it Anthony Forde snd wasn't he sent off last year?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Western Blue on March 08, 2015, 01:14:50 PM
We were very much in the match until
1. That stupid team Captain getting sent off. which in turn upset the plan.
2. Kilian Clarke pulling up with an injury, which could keep him out of football for 5 weeks.
The Kildare match was always going to be difficult for us lets be honest when the draw was made.We are looking at results going our way this afternoon but we need to beat Galway next Sunday in Salthill.Clarke will be a huge lost for that game because Argue will be saved for Ballybofey.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on March 08, 2015, 04:13:09 PM
Comfortable survival would have been nice but realistically that was never going to happen.. Galway, Westmeath and Meath. If we can manage to keep 15 on the field for 70 minutes then there's no reason we can't pick up some points there.. The team just need to dig deep. I saw lots of positives from last night.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on March 08, 2015, 04:18:54 PM
Any team can beat each in Division 2, no team is unbeaten now after todays results. Cavan can get a win in Galway if they keep the focus, Tom Flynn out for the rest of the League for them and also missing Paul Conroy plus the Corofin players.

Mackeys fitness will have improved.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on March 08, 2015, 06:03:21 PM
Anyone know who this dick Martin Tynan is. He has a poisonous Facebook page dedicated to bringing Seanie Johnston back but also doubles as a place to insult current management in a very blinkered and one sided fashion. It seems he also post on Hoganstand under the alias Deanmartin, constantly posting negative crap when Cavan lose. I understand he is a member of Ramor. We have big problem in the county with wankers like that fella, happier when we lose than when we win. I've called him out on hoganstand before but I've just figured who he is now. Why is he so bitter with Terry Hyland?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Old yeller on March 08, 2015, 07:31:46 PM
Quote from: Itchy on March 08, 2015, 06:03:21 PM
Anyone know who this dick Martin Tynan is. He has a poisonous Facebook page dedicated to bringing Seanie Johnston back but also doubles as a place to insult current management in a very blinkered and one sided fashion. It seems he also post on Hoganstand under the alias Deanmartin, constantly posting negative crap when Cavan lose. I understand he is a member of Ramor. We have big problem in the county with w**kers like that fella, happier when we lose than when we win. I've called him out on hoganstand before but I've just figured who he is now. Why is he so bitter with Terry Hyland?
Its hard to know if he is being serious or not, maybe he's a WUM. Embarrassing if he's for real
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on March 08, 2015, 09:15:27 PM
He use to play a bit with Ramor, hard to know was he serious or not at that too
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on March 08, 2015, 09:39:41 PM
He is serious. Google him, he's even on record as wanting a death penalty in Ireland - I expect he wants terry Hyland executed too! Guys like him are a cancer eating at our football scene.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on March 08, 2015, 10:32:46 PM
There are a few pricks on Hoganstand like him. That constant message that we have the players to compete at the top level was a cancer for years.. now it's been made worse by the the U21 titles and now encompasses the brand of football we play. I've yet to see a good solid argument against Terry's record given the options available to him, it's usually just assholes with negative IQs who like to rant. Does this go on as much in other counties?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on March 08, 2015, 10:34:51 PM
That facebook page is sad sad sad. :'(

Looking to next weekend. No Killian probably. No Damien Reilly. Almost certainly no Argue.
Strange Dunne went from being un-dropable and un-substitutional to not even getting on the pitch the last day.
Killian the Gunner is not a football player. His type of aggressive play has a place but he needs to be giving the ball simple. I was also disappointed with Moynagh when he came on, all he did was get turned over. Maybe he is not ready yet and Terry was right to hold him back. I think it will be a huge ask for us to get anything in Galway. McEnroe and Mackey getting back to fitness will be a boost though. I'd be looking at...

Gilsenan
McLoughlin
Dunne
Gunner
Fergal Flanagan
McEnroe

McKiernan
Corr
McVetty
B Reilly
Mackey
McDermott
Martin Reilly
Flanagan (sweeper)


Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on March 08, 2015, 10:41:01 PM
Brady should never be in the attacking half of the field. He should be deployed to break an attacker's heart and give simple handpasses when he's coming out of defence.

Moynagh was terrible when he came on. I'd go to Galway and go full blanket defence.. Donegal style. If we try to play football against them they have the footballers to beat us well. I'm heading down to make a weekend of it. Anyone else goin?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on March 08, 2015, 10:47:32 PM
Galway have very good forwards, but not going to power through like Kildare did. Danny Cummins , Shane Walsh, Michael Martin all very good when given space.

Fynns a big loss for them, class midfielder.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on March 08, 2015, 10:57:33 PM
Quote from: Westside on March 08, 2015, 10:32:46 PM
There are a few pricks on Hoganstand like him. That constant message that we have the players to compete at the top level was a cancer for years.. now it's been made worse by the the U21 titles and now encompasses the brand of football we play. I've yet to see a good solid argument against Terry's record given the options available to him, it's usually just assholes with negative IQs who like to rant. Does this go on as much in other counties?

Aye - we've had a few of them spill in here too RichieJ, Dirtyball etc. Thankfully they pissed off back to the gutter. This line about making no progress under Hyland is some laugh and does not hold up under any scrutiny. We have made solid progress but it was never going to be up and up and up with no stopping. We have not unearthed enough forwards, We are struggling with our preferred system of play and there is a real danger of relegation.

What did we have before Hyland? A team with no game plan, feck all committment, struggling to stay in Div 3, getting hammered in championship matches is what.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on March 08, 2015, 10:58:41 PM
Quote from: Westside on March 08, 2015, 10:41:01 PM
Brady should never be in the attacking half of the field. He should be deployed to break an attacker's heart and give simple handpasses when he's coming out of defence.

Moynagh was terrible when he came on. I'd go to Galway and go full blanket defence.. Donegal style. If we try to play football against them they have the footballers to beat us well. I'm heading down to make a weekend of it. Anyone else goin?

Is Sunday mothers day?? That trip could be a problem.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on March 08, 2015, 11:09:39 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on March 08, 2015, 10:58:41 PM
Quote from: Westside on March 08, 2015, 10:41:01 PM
Brady should never be in the attacking half of the field. He should be deployed to break an attacker's heart and give simple handpasses when he's coming out of defence.

Moynagh was terrible when he came on. I'd go to Galway and go full blanket defence.. Donegal style. If we try to play football against them they have the footballers to beat us well. I'm heading down to make a weekend of it. Anyone else goin?

Is Sunday mothers day?? That trip could be a problem.

It is.. Bring her for dinner in Salthill?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: comeysfield on March 09, 2015, 09:14:57 AM
Bring Tynan with you as well it would be great craic !!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on March 09, 2015, 02:45:38 PM
It would be hard to find something bitter enough for him to eat.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Western Blue on March 09, 2015, 09:30:57 PM
Has anybody any news re Killian Clarke's injury. If its only a slight strain a couple of sessions with Ronan Carolan might have him ready for Sunday . Regarding Keating and Gibney did they opt out from League football or because of injuries.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Blue in hope on March 12, 2015, 01:57:59 PM
I heard that Killian Clarke will more than likely be out for the rest of the league!!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on March 13, 2015, 12:32:20 PM
Strong enough Galway team named, barring the Corofin lads and Tom Flynn. Paul Conroy back in the team, missed the first 4 League games. Shane Walsh rested for the u21s. He will add some physical presense in the forward line

Ryan McHugh starting for Donegal Seniors against Kerry, Gallagher obviously not saving him for the u21's
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on March 13, 2015, 01:24:50 PM
We will see if mchugh plays or not, these teams being named dont always come about.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mrdeeds on March 13, 2015, 05:43:30 PM
Hugh Reynolds full forward on Pats Hogan Cup team has died. RIP.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Old yeller on March 15, 2015, 04:25:01 PM
Fantastic result in Galway. We are looking up the table now instead of down. Roscommon have done us a favour by beating Kildare too. Martin Dunne answered a lot of his critics with that performance today, I thought he was fantastic. A good team performance to come back from 5 down at half time, even though I dont think we should've been down by so much at half time. Jack Brady got on the score board too, should've known a shock was on the cards!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on March 15, 2015, 04:49:42 PM
Brilliant win, task was harder when the likes of Argue couldn't be used because of the U21 game on Wednesday and Clarke injured, Reilly suspended, but a great second half performance. Ground conditions suited Dunne and he made a great impact, bar the pen miss.

1 Down 5 4 1 0 91 73 8
2 Meath 4 2 1 1 63 54 5
3 Roscommon 4 2 1 1 72 69 5
4 Cavan 5 2 2 1 65 67 5
5 Galway 4 2 2 0 67 65 4
6 Westmeath 5 2 3 0 69 86 4
7 Laois 4 1 2 1 58 61 3
8 Kildare 5 1 4 0 78 88 2


A win against Westmeath would more then likely keep Cavan up and send Westmeath down. Roscommon winning today too, means Kildare  are very much up against too. They have Laois away next, lose that and they are gone as well.
Cavan could be going into the final game with Meath with an outside chance of promotion
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on March 15, 2015, 06:27:24 PM
Based on today's performance, we would be eaten alive in Division 1. Hang on to Division 2 status and I'd be delighted. Fair play to the lads they hung in there and ground out the result. Dunne proved why he's worth his place when the ground suits him, his points were 3 of the best you'll see. From almost impossible angles. It wasn't a bad penalty really, a great save by Breathnach. Gearoid really dominated today too which was good to see. McEnroe, McVeety, Martin Reilly and Rory Dunne all played very well too. Jack Brady looks like he's really lacking in confidence, didn't want to have a shot on goal at all..

Also a special mention must go to Mossy Corr, a forgotten man for the most part but he showed his worth today. Did a Trojan amount of work and his point was brilliant. A bit like the one he scored against Fermanagh a few years back. Just when the game was in the melting pot he busted his way through, rode about 3 big hits and let fly from just outside the 45.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on March 15, 2015, 07:31:56 PM
Quote from: Itchy on March 13, 2015, 01:24:50 PM
We will see if mchugh plays or not, these teams being named dont always come about.

He played the full game.. not that's its going to have a major bearing by Wednesday,
Eoin McHugh another u21 player was introduced with 5 minutes to go.


Consolidation of Division 2 this year would do grand  and build on that next year. Cavan had been playing Division 3 since 2008, a long time playing mediocrce teams. Still a gulf up from Div 2 to Div 1.

Monaghan on 24th of May will be the focus soon enough
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on March 15, 2015, 08:17:39 PM
I owe herself a lot of Brownie points after making the trip to Salthill on Mothers day! However, it was worth it as this was a massive result for us. Although we were well behind at half time we probably should not have been. We had just as much possession if not more than Galway but the wind was strong and we needed to work the ball in close to get the shots away. We did this reasonably well at times (if a little too laboured/slow) but I thought a few lads lacking confidence didn't take the shot on unfortunately. Gunner was subbed for Dunne after about 20 mins, a tactical change I would say as Gunner was our spare man and was getting on a lot of ball which is not his strength. Dunne hit a fine point within a few minutes of his introduction. The peno came from a really strong run from McEnroe who was excellent. The peno wasn't great, lacked power and was at the height keepers like. That sparked Galway into action and they hit a few points to leave it 7-2 at HT.

I had a feeling with the same possession in the 2nd half we could do some damage and so it proved. Niall McD moved out onto the 40. Mackey sat in that area too. Martin Reilly went half back. Mossy Corr really put the squeeze in the middle, Galway were opting for short kick outs all the time. Martin Dunne hit some stunning points out on the left with his left foot, Gearoid hit a nice point, McEnroe and McVitty scored two beauties. Score of the match was Mossy Corr steam rolling through 3 tackles before smashing one over from 45m out.

Galway were getting desperate and seemed totally out of ideas on how to break the mass defense. In fact they were terrible. Basically they ran up the the 45, passed over and back, eventually gave up and took mad shots that ended up as Garryowens dropping randomly inside our 20m line. Maurice Deegan kept them in it with some soft enough frees. In defense Galway left Dunne and later Bud Fitz inside, man to man, and that suited us down to the ground. Bud Fitz showed really well. We nearly capped it with a brilliant counter attack goal in the last minute which incredibly ended with 4 Cavan players breaking at high speed to outnumber Galways defence 5 to 2, McVitty got in one on one but instead of burying it he tried a handpass around the keeper to Bud and over hit it. Next kick Mackey won a free 45m out and Martin Reilly stuck it over and that was that.

I thought it was a great effort but not without mistakes. I'm afraid Conor Moynagh may not be ready for senior football. He is too casual and I think he cost us 3 or 4 points being turned over doing silly hand passes or bringing the ball into contact when there was no need. It will take him some time to get used to the faster, stronger senior football. Conor is still one with huge potential and we should be patient as he develops. He wasn't alone making mistakes though, a lot of Galway scores came from really poor decisions or passes with little or no pressure on. Martin Reilly was also quite wasteful. Mackey on the other hand was sublime with his passing, didn't give a bad one. He makes such a difference. Was also impressed with Bud, out in front of his man and ball sticking. Niall McD a different player in the half forward line running onto ball. McEnroe, R Dunne and McLoughlin also excellent as was Martin Dunne when he came on. A big well done to Martin Dunne by showing how a player should react to being dropped, a lad that has definitely matured.

A win next day has to keep us up in what is an extremely competitive division and that would be a fine achievement with some big players to come in again.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on March 16, 2015, 10:51:52 AM
Good report.  I have to say I almost enjoy the Northern Sound Commentary.  Unbiased they are not but no more the labored anecdotes
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Old yeller on March 16, 2015, 05:55:39 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on March 15, 2015, 08:17:39 PM
I owe herself a lot of Brownie points after making the trip to Salthill on Mothers day! However, it was worth it as this was a massive result for us. Although we were well behind at half time we probably should not have been. We had just as much possession if not more than Galway but the wind was strong and we needed to work the ball in close to get the shots away. We did this reasonably well at times (if a little too laboured/slow) but I thought a few lads lacking confidence didn't take the shot on unfortunately. Gunner was subbed for Dunne after about 20 mins, a tactical change I would say as Gunner was our spare man and was getting on a lot of ball which is not his strength. Dunne hit a fine point within a few minutes of his introduction. The peno came from a really strong run from McEnroe who was excellent. The peno wasn't great, lacked power and was at the height keepers like. That sparked Galway into action and they hit a few points to leave it 7-2 at HT.

I had a feeling with the same possession in the 2nd half we could do some damage and so it proved. Niall McD moved out onto the 40. Mackey sat in that area too. Martin Reilly went half back. Mossy Corr really put the squeeze in the middle, Galway were opting for short kick outs all the time. Martin Dunne hit some stunning points out on the left with his left foot, Gearoid hit a nice point, McEnroe and McVitty scored two beauties. Score of the match was Mossy Corr steam rolling through 3 tackles before smashing one over from 45m out.

Galway were getting desperate and seemed totally out of ideas on how to break the mass defense. In fact they were terrible. Basically they ran up the the 45, passed over and back, eventually gave up and took mad shots that ended up as Garryowens dropping randomly inside our 20m line. Maurice Deegan kept them in it with some soft enough frees. In defense Galway left Dunne and later Bud Fitz inside, man to man, and that suited us down to the ground. Bud Fitz showed really well. We nearly capped it with a brilliant counter attack goal in the last minute which incredibly ended with 4 Cavan players breaking at high speed to outnumber Galways defence 5 to 2, McVitty got in one on one but instead of burying it he tried a handpass around the keeper to Bud and over hit it. Next kick Mackey won a free 45m out and Martin Reilly stuck it over and that was that.

I thought it was a great effort but not without mistakes. I'm afraid Conor Moynagh may not be ready for senior football. He is too casual and I think he cost us 3 or 4 points being turned over doing silly hand passes or bringing the ball into contact when there was no need. It will take him some time to get used to the faster, stronger senior football. Conor is still one with huge potential and we should be patient as he develops. He wasn't alone making mistakes though, a lot of Galway scores came from really poor decisions or passes with little or no pressure on. Martin Reilly was also quite wasteful. Mackey on the other hand was sublime with his passing, didn't give a bad one. He makes such a difference. Was also impressed with Bud, out in front of his man and ball sticking. Niall McD a different player in the half forward line running onto ball. McEnroe, R Dunne and McLoughlin also excellent as was Martin Dunne when he came on. A big well done to Martin Dunne by showing how a player should react to being dropped, a lad that has definitely matured.

A win next day has to keep us up in what is an extremely competitive division and that would be a fine achievement with some big players to come in again.
Great report Myles. I'd agree with most of what you said there. I have been very disappointed with Moynagh's form also. I thought he would be one of the lads to really come on and make a big impact on the senior team. He seemed so assured on the ball last year, and his passing was fantastic. I'm sure he will get used to the pace of senior with more game-time, but its going to be hard to come by with his form at the minute. It is a pity not to have him well settled into the team for the championship.
This win couldn't have come at a better time for the team and management in particular. Another loss would have put Terry under a fair bit of pressure. Instead, the management made some good decisions that ultimately won the game for Cavan, so well done to them on that. Last week I was beginning to wonder if the laois and Ros games were flukes, and if the Down and Kildare performances were the real Cavan. I think its fair to say now that we can compete with any team and we are well fit for this division. I would be hoping, like Westside, that we don't get promoted this year to be honest. It's a hell of a jump from Div 2 to Div 1 and I think another year in this tier would do us the world of good.
I didn't think Gearoid really dominated as someone said before, thought he was quiet enough to be honest. Caught a couple of kick outs at important times though.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on March 16, 2015, 06:35:18 PM
Moynagh has always had a tendency to get caught in possession, even underage. He was left as the spare man yesterday so obviously the management see him as the best man to play the free role. His lack of pace could be a worry but he has decent potential so I'd say they'll persevere.

I think Gearoid dominated midfield in the second half. Galway kept going short to keep it away from him, he drove us forward well.
Was very impressed with Rory Dunne yesterday, actually having a reliable full back is some change from the situation we had a few short years ago! McEnroe has been our best player this year so far though for me, thought he swung the game for us in Laois and he was very good in the last few games too.

What about the U21s? Low key build up.. Donegal are apparently very strong. Perhaps the poor Hastings Cup campaign has lowered expectations.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on March 16, 2015, 06:57:13 PM
Great win, great fight shown. I expect Westmeath will be veryvtough as they are getting desperate for a win. I'm not too worried about Meath either.

U21 will beat Donegal by a goal or so.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on March 16, 2015, 07:17:02 PM
Cavan could be top of the table if it wasn't for poor discipline against Down and Kildare. Although the sending off of Flanagan was very harsh.

Westmeath were beaten comphrensively in the last 2 games, against Meath and Down, they will be going to Cavan in low confidence.

Goodluck to Pats tomorrow, hopefully the wait ends tomorrow.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on March 16, 2015, 08:15:52 PM
So can someone explain this to me...

Donegal slight favourites to beat Cavan Wednesday- 4/5, Cavan are 5/4

To win the Ulster title Cavan are second favourites at 11/4 while Donegal are fourth at 6/1.

That does not make sense to me!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on March 16, 2015, 09:12:12 PM
Ulster Minor League starts on Saturday,

Armagh (---)

v

(---) Cavan


2015 Ulster Minor Football League Group A Round 1
Athletic Grounds 2:00 PM
Referee: Paul Falloon

Cavan (---)

v

(---) Down


2015 Ulster Minor Football League Group A Round 2
Saturday 28th March Kingspan:  Breffni Pk 2:00 PM
Referee: TBC

Cavan (---)

v

(---) Monaghan


2015 Ulster Minor Football League Group A Round 3
Saturday 4th April .Kingspan Breffni Pk 2:00 PM
Referee: TBC

Will be without the Pats lads if they win  tomorrow, go into the Hogan
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on March 16, 2015, 09:23:31 PM
Are all players eligible to play in MacRory eligible for Hogan Cup too? The age limit is no different is it?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on March 16, 2015, 09:26:54 PM
Use to be but not any longer
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Old yeller on March 16, 2015, 09:50:25 PM
McRory is u18.5 and Hogan is u-18 i thought. Extra six months in McRory to suit the northern teams
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on March 16, 2015, 09:52:49 PM
Pats Maghera had players 18 1/2 in Hogan, the rule was changed asaik in Hogan age limit a few years ago

Pats played in Leinster colleges for 3 years 03-06 as they could compete at that level, brought in transition year plus players repeated so they could compete with the Northern colleges
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Old yeller on March 16, 2015, 10:02:15 PM
I didnt know that now. Thats good news for St.Pats then so. I thought they were going to lose a few lads if the won tomorrow. I tried to google it there but I cant find a thing about the age limit! The Ulster colleges GAA website doesnt mention it either.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on March 16, 2015, 10:05:35 PM
No, they won't be losing anyone.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Old yeller on March 16, 2015, 10:07:32 PM
That's deadly. I think they are going to do it tomorrow, its a savage team.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on March 16, 2015, 10:12:17 PM
Class team yeah, be great if they do it tomorrow.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on March 17, 2015, 03:03:55 PM
Brilliant win for Pats in the final, some serious prospects to come off that team. Donohoe is a willowy little slip in the corner, Galligan is a tank at midfield and David Brady has a touch of class, but they're all pure team players. The conveyor belt is still rolling!

McClure's black card had a big bearing on the game and it was harmless enough but within the letter of the law. Dungannon were a blunted team after he went off but maybe paid the price for trying to make the game a bit more niggly after half time.

Well done to all involved at Pats and the county board, and all the teachers and players who tried and fell short in the last 43 years but still kept the game alive and the flag flying.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Old yeller on March 17, 2015, 03:11:59 PM
A fantastic achievement, well done to St. Pat's. Does anybody know who they will play in the next game or when it is?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on March 17, 2015, 03:24:23 PM
Great stuff pats. Cavan football is on an upward trend for sure.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on March 17, 2015, 03:40:27 PM
Great win for Pat's. I thought they might be in trouble after Conaty went off but they adapted without him. Galligan looks as good as he did in the Southern Gaels Minor run, top notch. Great game from the wing back Kennedy and the Keeper. Nice brand of football played by them too.

They play the Kerry School from Dingle in the Semi Final.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: FermGael on March 17, 2015, 09:04:00 PM
Good to see a Fermanagh man lifting a bit of silverware.

Well done St Pats
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on March 18, 2015, 11:28:44 AM
McManus starting for Fermanagh u21's tonight, stuff like that will lead to player burnout. He is still a Minor too.
http://www.hoganstand.com/ArticleForm.aspx?ID=233869

Brilliant display from Pats yesterday. Dingle will be fairly strong , reigning Hogan Champions managed by Eamon Fitzmaurice.
Goodluck to the U21's tonight, Donegal will be hard beaten up there.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: FermGael on March 18, 2015, 11:59:51 AM
Quote from: rodney trotter on March 18, 2015, 11:28:44 AM
McManus starting for Fermanagh u21's tonight, stuff like that will lead to player burnout. He is still a Minor too.
http://www.hoganstand.com/ArticleForm.aspx?ID=233869

Brilliant display from Pats yesterday. Dingle will be fairly strong , reigning Hogan Champions managed by Eamon Fitzmaurice.
Goodluck to the U21's tonight, Donegal will be hard beaten up there.

Burn out you say.
feel sorry for the lad as he is going from a very professional set up to a shambles
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on March 18, 2015, 12:25:16 PM
QuoteMcManus starting for Fermanagh u21's tonight, stuff like that will lead to player burnout. He is still a Minor too.
http://www.hoganstand.com/ArticleForm.aspx?ID=233869
Quote

Are Ben Conaty and Thommas Edward Donohoe on the Cavan Panel as well?

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on March 18, 2015, 01:16:43 PM
Quote from: Denn Forever on March 18, 2015, 12:25:16 PM
QuoteMcManus starting for Fermanagh u21's tonight, stuff like that will lead to player burnout. He is still a Minor too.
http://www.hoganstand.com/ArticleForm.aspx?ID=233869
Quote

Are Ben Conaty and Thommas Edward Donohoe on the Cavan Panel as well?

No, Pierce Smith and Thomas Galligan. They won't be starting. Donahoe is still 16.

Conaty got a nasty injury yesterday hopefully its not too serious, he was playing well.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on March 19, 2015, 02:45:35 PM
Hard luck to the U21s.  Late goal scuppered them but well done Donegal.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on March 19, 2015, 11:39:41 PM
Saw the interview with Peter Reilly.. His frustration at the narrow losses in the last 3 years is evident. Will he get another go? I wouldn't be opposed to it personally.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on March 20, 2015, 01:44:50 PM
He will probaly get another go if he wants to continue
Donegal were beaten in the last minute last year so luck was on their side this year. Gives the Senior panel a chance to have a stronger panel for the remaining 2 games in the League, with the likes of Argue available. A Minor title should be the aim in the next 2 years.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: comeysfield on March 20, 2015, 06:22:58 PM
Peter  probably deserves another shot at it, but just one little but, should there be a little focus on trying to get a forward or two. He / The U21 Setup are not too focused on the forward side of things it has got us results and brought pride back but just maybe but we need to start getting something going on that side of things

For what it is worth TED should be on minor panel whenever Pats exit/win Hogan
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on March 20, 2015, 07:11:43 PM
Who all from the MacRory winning team will be Minor? I suppose we'll get a better idea of the team after the Minor League game this weekend.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on March 20, 2015, 08:14:21 PM
Darragh Kennedy, Donal Monaghan, Luke Fortune,Conor Smith,David Brady,  Thomas Edward Donahoe,Paul Leddy, David Wilson.

MacRory players wont be involved in Minor League
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on March 20, 2015, 09:27:03 PM

Virginia College claimed the All-Ireland senior Vocational Schools football title with a magnificent 0-10 to 1-5 victory over St Brogan's College, Bandon, at McDonagh Park in Nenagh on Saturday April 29 2006.

This was a landmark victory not just for the school but also for vocational schools football in the county and Cavan GAA in general.
It's the first time a Cavan school has won an All-Ireland at this level and the players as well as the team management of Niall Lynch, Bart McEnroe and Nicolas Walsh deserve the utmost credit.

The winners dominated early exchanges but were unable to get on the scoreboard due to nervousness in front of the posts. Eugene Keating got the opening score and further points from Ciaran Sexton, Conor Smith (2) and Keating again fired the Cavan and Ulster champions into a 0-5 to 0-2 interval lead.

A more physical Cork side closed within a point upon the resumption but Terry Keating's 45th-minute point steadied Virginia. Three points in five minutes from Eugene Keating, Smith and Terry Keating sealed a historic victory.

The Virginia College team which won the 2005/06 All-Ireland crown was: M. Clarke (capt.); K Farrelly, B. Coleman, D. Foxe; C Tully, R. Farrelly, T. Ferguson; Eugene Keating (0-4) , J. McEnroe; C. Sexton (0-1), D. Costello, T. Keating (0-1); A. Cole, C. Smith (0-4), F. Flanagan



The defending All-Ireland champions met St Oliver's College, Drogheda (the first Louth side to win a Leinster title at this level) in the national VS U18 decider at Clones on Sunday April 22. It was a tough assignment but Virginia put their vast experience to magnificent use as they powered to an emphatic double-scores victory, 4-10 to 2-5.
Conor Smith's hat-trick of goals was decisive and the winners-elect never looked back after the full forward's first-half brace. Even though they lost Eugene Keating and Michael Smith to nasty injuries in the first half, Virginia never loosened their grip on the match. They led by 2-6 to 1-3 at the interval and the second period was almost an exact replica of the first one, scoring-wise.

The winners hit 2-3 without reply on the resumption, with goals from Smith and Adrian Cole, to assume a 15-point advantage with quarter of the match remaining. Clearly, there was no way back for the Droghedeans. Incredibly, another perfect campaign from Virginia College.

Virginia College - 2006/07 All-Ireland senior 'A' Vocational Schools football champions: M McWeeney; D Barkey, B Colemen, M Smith; F Flanagan, D Foxe, P Cusack; E Keating, J McEnroe; T Keating, A Cole (1-2), P Queally; C Sexton (0-3), Conor Smith (3-1), G Daly (0-2). Subs: K Connell, S O'Reilly (0-1), J Smith (0-1), B Boylan, O Smith


There was some class players at the time in those teams, Conor Smith didn't progress on, or Ado Cole
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on March 22, 2015, 06:43:08 PM
So the Rossies push for promotion now and Laois drag Galway down into the relegation scrap. Still a very real danger of us going down, I wouldn't like to be going to Navan on the last day needing points to keep us up. Hopefully we can beat Westmeath and then we're definitely safe. Wouldn't be like Cavan to do things the hard way anyway......
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on March 22, 2015, 09:37:54 PM
Someone will go down on 6 points in this division. Cavan need to beat Westmeath, end of story. Same result will probably relegate Westmeath. Massive game with high stakes next Saturday.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on March 22, 2015, 10:32:39 PM
Too many permutations and with anyone being able to beat anyone in this Division, we won't know how things are truly going to shape up until after next weekend. But if we beat Westmeath we're safe regardless. Argue, Hayes and Ciaran Brady back in as options which is helpful. Hopefully Dunne can keep tabs on Heslin. Massive game, safety in Div 2 signifies further progress for the team. I think it's vital the squad gets that sort of tangible achievement this year after the travesty of a Championship last season.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on March 28, 2015, 10:15:49 AM
Team named....

Gunner, moynagh out Damien Reilly and Bud Fitz in. Marrin dunne stays on for Jack Brady. Bit light in forwards but a fair enough team based on the last performance. I'd love to see Bud knock over a few points.

Conor Gilsenan (Bailieboro), Jason McLoughlin (Shannon Gaels), Rory Dunne (Redhills), Ronan Flanagan (Castlerahan), James McEnroe (Ramor Utd), Fergal Flanagan (Butlersbridge), Damien O'Reilly (Belturbet), Tomas Corr (Denn), Gearoid McKiernan (Swanlinbar), Dara McVeety (Crosserlough), Niall McDermott (Ballinagh), Martin Reilly (Killygarry), Cian Mackey (Castlerahan), Martin Dunne (Cavan Gaels), Brendan Fitzpatrick (Belturbet).
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Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on March 28, 2015, 10:23:00 AM
Good team for what is available, Argue and Clarke injured. The defence fairly solid, probaly be those 6 that will start in the championship. Moynagh would be too risky against Monaghan.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on March 28, 2015, 10:58:48 AM
Bud provides some good pace in the forwards there, I like Gunner but he's not good enough on the ball. Wonder will Tom Hayes be on the bench? Tonight is big.. We need a result. Hopefully the lads will want to prove a point about their home form.

http://pcd07.ie/beo/
I see this link was posted on twitter by the Kerry school as a link to the Hogan Cup game? I doubt it'll be live to air but maybe...

Bad result for the Minors last night. Didn't get a score in the second half at all.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on March 28, 2015, 11:20:03 AM
The Cavan line out probaly shows U21 titles are not the be all and end all. 8 of the starting teams haven't got U21 medals. Martin Dunne wasn't making the U21 team in 2010 and left after the Hastings Cup.

The u21 team in 2010 despite not being victorious has probaly the strongest spine of the 5 teams between 2010 - 2014,  Rory Dunne, James McEnroe, McDermott, McKiernan, Bud Fitzpatrick..

Goodluck to Pats today
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on March 28, 2015, 12:49:16 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on March 28, 2015, 11:20:03 AM
The Cavan line out probaly shows U21 titles are not the be all and end all. 8 of the starting teams haven't got U21 medals. Martin Dunne wasn't making the U21 team in 2010 and left after the Hastings Cup.

The u21 team in 2010 despite not being victorious has probaly the strongest spine of the 5 teams between 2010 - 2014,  Rory Dunne, James McEnroe, McDermott, McKiernan, Bud Fitzpatrick..

Goodluck to Pats today

Its a fair point you make but remember you are also missing Killian Clarke and Michael Argue this weekend, both would be likely to feature. If you include them then you could argue that 10 players have U21 medals which is a fair few. The greatest service the U21 players have delivered, and I am including the players from 2010 in this, is that they have lifted the older players and almost been role models for them. Its easy to forget the senior team was in, the egos, the indiscipline and all the moral victories (i.e. defeats).

Its a shame the U21 teams we had could not get over the line to win the All Ireland. Last years team for me was the best just needed a bit of luck to get over Dublin but instead they got the opposite and a joke of a ref that was never heard of since.

Anyways, its all a means to an end and that end is the senior team. I expect us to beat Westmeath tonight although I expect a .fight from Westmeath as they know a defeat means their safety in Div 2 is in the hands of others. Mackey was great the last day, his calmness and vision and accuracy in the pass is so important. I like the shape of the team and I expect Martin Reilly will play deeper leaving as much space as possible up front. McDermott is much better running towards goal too. Come championship time I expect Clarke may dislodge Corr (but mossy wont go without a fight) and argue may dislodge Bud Fitz. A win here would be great to head for Navan with no pressure on.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on March 28, 2015, 12:50:50 PM
Quote from: Westside on March 28, 2015, 10:58:48 AM
Bud provides some good pace in the forwards there, I like Gunner but he's not good enough on the ball. Wonder will Tom Hayes be on the bench? Tonight is big.. We need a result. Hopefully the lads will want to prove a point about their home form.

http://pcd07.ie/beo/
I see this link was posted on twitter by the Kerry school as a link to the Hogan Cup game? I doubt it'll be live to air but maybe...

Bad result for the Minors last night. Didn't get a score in the second half at all.

I wouldnt be that worried about it, the St Pats lads obviously not available and that minor league is hard to predict. As long as we are keeping in touch with teams and not getting hidings I'd be happy enough. I think Down only got 3 points in the 2nd half too.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on March 28, 2015, 12:55:09 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on March 28, 2015, 12:49:16 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on March 28, 2015, 11:20:03 AM
The Cavan line out probaly shows U21 titles are not the be all and end all. 8 of the starting teams haven't got U21 medals. Martin Dunne wasn't making the U21 team in 2010 and left after the Hastings Cup.

The u21 team in 2010 despite not being victorious has probaly the strongest spine of the 5 teams between 2010 - 2014,  Rory Dunne, James McEnroe, McDermott, McKiernan, Bud Fitzpatrick..

Goodluck to Pats today

Its a fair point you make but remember you are also missing Killian Clarke and Michael Argue this weekend, both would be likely to feature. If you include them then you could argue that 10 players have U21 medals which is a fair few. The greatest service the U21 players have delivered, and I am including the players from 2010 in this, is that they have lifted the older players and almost been role models for them. Its easy to forget the senior team was in, the egos, the indiscipline and all the moral victories (i.e. defeats).

Its a shame the U21 teams we had could not get over the line to win the All Ireland. Last years team for me was the best just needed a bit of luck to get over Dublin but instead they got the opposite and a joke of a ref that was never heard of since.

Anyways, its all a means to an end and that end is the senior team. I expect us to beat Westmeath tonight although I expect a .fight from Westmeath as they know a defeat means their safety in Div 2 is in the hands of others. Mackey was great the last day, his calmness and vision and accuracy in the pass is so important. I like the shape of the team and I expect Martin Reilly will play deeper leaving as much space as possible up front. McDermott is much better running towards goal too. Come championship time I expect Clarke may dislodge Corr (but mossy wont go without a fight) and argue may dislodge Bud Fitz. A win here would be great to head for Navan with no pressure on.

Yeah Argue and Clarke would bring the number to 9, I suppose if Keating and Givney were still on the panel it would still be more from the 2010 era.

Duffy not starting today for Westmeath only back from injury, he caused Cavan a lot of hassle around the middle last summer.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on March 28, 2015, 01:22:16 PM
Conor Gilsenan (Bailieboro), Jason McLoughlin (Shannon Gaels), Rory Dunne (Redhills), Ronan Flanagan (Castlerahan), James McEnroe (Ramor Utd), Fergal Flanagan (Butlersbridge), Damien O'Reilly (Belturbet), Tomas Corr (Denn), Gearoid McKiernan (Swanlinbar), Dara McVeety (Crosserlough), Niall McDermott (Ballinagh), Martin Reilly (Killygarry), Cian Mackey (Castlerahan), Martin Dunne (Cavan Gaels), Brendan Fitzpatrick (Belturbet).


Actually 9 players haven't u21 medals.


Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on March 29, 2015, 08:55:05 AM
Well it wasnt pretty but Div 2 football is secured. Given the tightness of this group and the fact that there is a game to spare then I think we need to recognise that is a fine achievement and represents a forward step for football in the county.

I thought we were very poor in the first half yesterday so its a good job westmeath are the worst team we have played so far. Westmeath packed their defense against the wind and we completely failed to break it down, again the lack of ball winners inside was evident although Bud tried hard to find space. Indeed when he did manage to get a ball he was left isolated with 3 defenders for company. The killer was a poorly conceded goal when Martin won the ball on the 45, McEnroe couldn't stop him and for some reason Dunne didn't move over to cut him off. We survived of scraps and frees to drag us back into the game, we did get a nice point before half time though from Mcdermott after two good passes from Mackey and Dunne.

We were much better in the 2nd half. More bite to us, more hunger. Thought Gearoid had a very good 2nd half going down on dirty ball and winning a good share of kick outs. He also tapped over two trademark points. Mackey also got more involved, even managing a back heel at one stage. That said we were still making some horrible decisions and poor handpasses - some lads didn't seem tuned in. We were lucky Westmeaths shooting in the 2nd half was even worse than Galway the week before. We were also helped by the fact the wind died down in the 2nd half too.

So pressure off we can go to Navan. Nothing to fear there, I fancy we will beat the Royals and if results elsewhere go our way who knows we could get up to play the big boys.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on March 29, 2015, 11:09:04 AM
Westmeath were outclassed in Division 1 last year, Cavan aren't much better then Westmeath so i don't think Promotion would be a great thing at all. Losing only drains confidence in players, another year in Division 2 would do grand, and its Cavan level at the minute

It will be a very competitive Division 2 next year, looking like  a lot of Ulster teams are going to be in it
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on March 29, 2015, 11:37:12 AM
I totally disagree with that Rodney. If we want to win Ulster then we need to be getting to Div 1. Monaghan, Donegal, Tyrone are up there - why would we be outclassed by them. There are many reasons Westmeath went to crap, main one being changing the manager that got them to Div1.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on March 29, 2015, 11:43:37 AM
Kerry, Cork, Dublin, Mayo when on form, those teams would outclass Cavan. The other teams wouldn't , but they all play the dogged defensive system.

Monaghan or Tyrone could be going down.. Westmeath weren't ready for Division 1 football, regardless of changing the manager. It was  a shock to most when they were promoted.

Do you think Cavan have the firepower for Division 1? Monaghan have grinded out a few wins thanks to the brilliance of McManus, have a Cavan a McManus type in the ff line




Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on March 29, 2015, 12:01:23 PM
You strive to play at the highest level possible Rodney, you raise your standards when playing the best. I'd rather us see saw between Div1 and Div2 than be in a dogged all ulster dogfight in Div2. Are you suggesting we should let Meath best us next day.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on March 29, 2015, 12:03:43 PM
What do you think? No, and even if they do beat Meath it will still be depending on other results.

There is striving and there is being realistic
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on March 29, 2015, 12:52:00 PM
I don't think we'd survive Division 1 either. But if we went up, worst case scenario is that we're back in Div 2 for 2017. I know teams can sometimes free fall but I think you'd still have learned more than staying in Div 2 for another year.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on March 29, 2015, 02:06:03 PM
Also it took Cavan until round 6 to get the first goal in the National League 2015 .  They missed a pen against Gaway, but prior to that creating very little goal chances. That wouldn't be good enough in Division 1
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on March 29, 2015, 03:18:32 PM
We should have had 2 goals against Laois, Paul Smith missed a sitter in the first half and took a point in the second when through on goal. Should have had 2 against Galway as well, penalty missed and a 3 on 1 ruined by a poor last pass. Gunner should have had a goal against Kildare. All very easy chances missed but at least the opportunities were carved out, we need to be more clinical.

So Galway beat Roscommon. Am I right in saying if Laois Beat Down and we beat Meath we go up regardless of what anyone else does?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on March 29, 2015, 03:24:21 PM
Gunner was off balance on his left foot against Kildare, was easier chances then it

Yeah looks like that, although Donie Kingston got a straight red for Laois against Kildare, he is their main forward with Munnelly, big loss. Down are at home again next week, can't see them slipping up again
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on March 29, 2015, 03:38:59 PM
If we beat Meath and Roscommon either lose to Westmeath or beat them by less than we beat Meath, we'd also go up.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on March 29, 2015, 05:00:54 PM
Fantastic last day in prospect. No pressure on Cavan, its mission accomplished so far and anything else is a bonus. Would be brilliant to go down to Navan and clinch promotion though. I've a feeling one of the other games at least could go our way.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on March 29, 2015, 05:09:40 PM
Easy talking now I know but had the lads got that goal against Galway in the dying minutes of the game we'd be very confident of our chances of going up if we beat Meath! Still, surviving was a big step forward. We've proved we are Division 2 standard.

The League Final would clash with the New York trip wouldn't it?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on March 29, 2015, 09:56:22 PM
So is the Div2 final on the same time as the trip to new York. I expect the county board have a lot of money invested in that trip. What will they do?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on March 30, 2015, 04:23:30 PM
They won't be doing anything unless it comes to that, Meath are also going for promotion and won't be easy beaten, Ciaran Gillispie , Kevin Reilly back after missing most of the League. Meath had a good  win in Newry and will be fairly confident.

Galway had a good win in Roscommon with the inlusion of the Corofin players, just as well they were missing against Cavan
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: five points on March 31, 2015, 10:50:16 AM
Division 2 final isn't til April 26th so there's no clash with the NY trip if we get there.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on April 08, 2015, 07:27:04 PM
Why was Gearoid captain on Sunday and not Damien O'Reilly?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on April 09, 2015, 12:34:57 PM
Quote from: Westside on April 08, 2015, 07:27:04 PM
Why was Gearoid captain on Sunday and not Damien O'Reilly?

No idea, looked a bit strange alright.
Team has gone to the US now, it looks like there are no additions to the panel. We will struggle for scores this championship without a natural ball winner.

Dunne will score but he needs someone to win the ball.
Bud is a decent ball winner but he doesn't score as far as I can see
Argue will be in FF but he is totally inexperienced.
Tom Hayes is a scorer and a ball winner but is young and has had a long year, will he be able to step up?

For me, Monaghan will not have much difficulty in keeping our score rates down, our best chance lies in playing very defensively and making a dog fight out of it.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: beer baron on April 09, 2015, 02:48:56 PM
Quote from: Westside on April 08, 2015, 07:27:04 PM
Why was Gearoid captain on Sunday and not Damien O'Reilly?

That caught my eye too, Damien lose it after getting sent off against Kildare maybe? Only a guess though,but  he does get involved in plenty.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4sam on April 09, 2015, 04:07:52 PM
Can't remember if it was the Down game or the Kildare game but both were playing and Gearoid took the toss that night too.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on April 09, 2015, 07:30:05 PM
Are we any better than when we met Monaghan two years ago? I don't really think so. Our forward line is slightly weaker without Keating and Dunne struggling to find form, midfield is probably slightly stronger without Givney and with the addition of Gearoid.

I think starting Argue at Full Forward would be a mistake and it would show a small hint of desperation from management, we haven't played a full game with him at that position, he's never played a Championship game at Full Forward. Is first round of the Championship really the time to attempt a curve ball like that? I think we are safer to hope we bring our shooting boots on the day, tell the lads to be a little bit more ruthless if goal opportunities present themselves and try be more disciplined in defence than Monaghan. And just do our level best to keep tabs on McManus and be disciplined in defence so as not to give him frees within range. Simple....
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on April 09, 2015, 08:54:24 PM
Killian Clarke started Full forward against Kildare ahead of Argue,. he likely would have been there for the remainder of the League too. Argue hasn't been playing that well this year, he wouldn't be  guaranteed starter come championship.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on April 09, 2015, 09:50:36 PM
Think we are playing New York tonight at 1am Irish time.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Blue in hope on April 10, 2015, 12:01:09 PM
Cavan played New York in the early hours of the morning and won 1-15 to 0-15. Half Time  New York 0-10 Cavan 0-7

Cavan Team was
1 Ray Galligan
2 James Morris
3 Killian Brady
4 Ciaran Brady
5 Brian Sanky
6 Conor Moynagh
7 Niall Murray
8 Michael Argue
9 Liam Buchanan
10Paul Smith
11 Barry Reilly
12 Mark Mc Keever
13 Jack Brady
14 Tom Hayes
15 Enda Reilly.

Subs Used: Bud Fitzpatrick, Thomas Corr, Martin Reilly, Fergal Flanagan,Damien Reilly,Chris Conway.

Scorers: M Argue 1-1,M. Reilly 0-3 (1 Free),J Brady 0-3 (3 Frees), C Brady 0-2,C.Conway 0-2, B Reilly 0-1,B Fitzpatrick 0-1,E Reilly 0-1,C Moynagh 0-1.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on April 12, 2015, 11:25:16 AM
Team for 2nd game is a little stronger but still fairly experimental

Ray Galligan
Ferghal Flanagan
Rory Dunne
Killian Brady
Paul Smith
Niall Murray
Ciaran Brady
Tomas Corr
Damien O Reilly
Dara McVitty
Barry Reilly
Mark McKeever
Cian Mackey
Martin Dunne
Martin Reilly

Can we draw any conclusions? Well its interesting to see Galligan get both games in goals. If he has worked on the goalkeeping basics and has gotten up to speed then he certainly could be a serious option for Monaghan given his free taking and place kicking. I was listening to the Celts Pod Cast and they were impressed with him in the first game. Ciaran Brady also gets two games, another who could be pushing hard, his strength and drive could be very useful against Monaghan. Killian the Gunner also getting more game time but I honestly think Gunners ball skills are not up to it although there would be a type of game that would suit him to come on as a sub.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on April 12, 2015, 11:44:59 PM
Beat New York 3-13 to 0-11. Two goals by martin Reilly, one from Martin Dunne. Another rough game I'm told.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Old yeller on April 13, 2015, 11:22:49 AM
Did anybody make the trip out?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Blue in hope on April 13, 2015, 12:19:56 PM
Talking to someone at the march last night who said it was very tough and dirty. New York could have easily had 5-6 players sent off. Barry Reilly had to be taken off as he got two elbows to the head and didn't know where he was. also mossy took some terrible hits off the ball.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on April 13, 2015, 03:09:01 PM
Dirty Hits, rough play off the ball..... Sounds like perfect preparation for Monaghan so.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on April 15, 2015, 01:21:16 PM
So thoughts turn to the game against Monaghan.

We can only hope that Monaghan will underestimate us after a very good performance against Dublin. 

I hope that the forwards will not kick balls into the Goalkeeper's hands.  The best way to combat  a blanket defense is to kick long range points and minimise bring the ball into contact.  Unfortunately we don't have great long range point scorers so we need to kick the ball dead so the goalie can't intiate attacks.

Should be an interesting game.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4sam on April 16, 2015, 11:39:33 AM
Quote from: Denn Forever on April 15, 2015, 01:21:16 PM
Unfortunately we don't have great long range point scorers

You say that and I agree with you to a certain extent but if the right players get on the ball we have players that can score from range as we saw against Laois.

Title: Packie Devlin
Post by: robbieswift on April 16, 2015, 12:29:20 PM
I wondered if anyone might have some information on Packie Devlin, the famous Killeshandra and Cavan footballer after whom Packie Devlin Park is named. His footballing exploits are a matter of record, but I wanted to find information on his family and personal life.

Packie was the brother of my grandmother, Annie Mary Devlin, who crossed the water to England with their sister Delia in the 1920s. My Granny never talked about her life or family in Ireland before she passed away in 1965 and her daughter, my Aunt Kathleen now in her 80s, would dearly like to know more about her mother's life.

I realise it was a long time ago now, but I would be very grateful if anyone has any information at all about Packie and his life.
Title: Re: Packie Devlin
Post by: Aristo 60 on April 16, 2015, 01:25:46 PM
There's a Packie Devlin Park and no Larry Reilly Park?

Did Larry give that the go ahead? Or is that why there are so many potholes in Cavan?
Title: Re: Packie Devlin
Post by: mylestheslasher on April 16, 2015, 06:40:59 PM
I'm a Killeshandra man myself. Know a little about him. How much do you know or are you starting from zero. Packie Devlin Park is looking well these days, a major upgrade took place a few years ago.
Title: Re: Packie Devlin
Post by: robbieswift on April 17, 2015, 03:11:09 AM
Thank you for your reply. All I know of Packie Devlin are the details of his football career and his early death available online. A cousin of mine visited Killeshandra many years ago and it was then that we learned that Packie was the brother of our Granny. Further than that, I have very little.

Like many Irish families of the time, the family were dispersed with Annie-Mary (my Granny) and her sister Delia going to England while their brothers Packie and Johnny obviously remained behind.  We have no information on the family other than that, no knowledge of their parents, other siblings, where they lived etc. We also have no knowledge of Packie or Johnny's children, who would be our cousins once removed.
Title: Re: Packie Devlin
Post by: five points on April 17, 2015, 11:00:25 AM
Hi Robbie

I'd imagine you'd find this book, about Packie's colleague Jim Smith, interesting.

http://hoganstand.com/Cavan/ArticleForm.aspx?ID=176383
Title: Re: Packie Devlin
Post by: mylestheslasher on April 17, 2015, 12:05:57 PM
Quote from: robbieswift on April 17, 2015, 03:11:09 AM
Thank you for your reply. All I know of Packie Devlin are the details of his football career and his early death available online. A cousin of mine visited Killeshandra many years ago and it was then that we learned that Packie was the brother of our Granny. Further than that, I have very little.

Like many Irish families of the time, the family were dispersed with Annie-Mary (my Granny) and her sister Delia going to England while their brothers Packie and Johnny obviously remained behind.  We have no information on the family other than that, no knowledge of their parents, other siblings, where they lived etc. We also have no knowledge of Packie or Johnny's children, who would be our cousins once removed.

I've an interest in this type of thing myself so I'll try and help you out!

There are a few people who would know. First off in the Killeshandra parish is George Cartwright, former Cavan GAA County Board chairman. He has written a book on his own club Cornafean but back in those days people from Killeshandra often played with Cornafean as they were a senior team and you had to play senior in order to play for Cavan. So George might know some more. I'll also talk to the Mammy as she also knows everything about everyone in the area, she may know what families today are related to the Devlins.

One book you should look up if you can is "Cavans Football Story" by Fr Dan Gallogly. Its out of print and to buy it could set you back €100 to €200. It covers the 30's, 40's in detail that is not really on line. I have a copy myself and could copy you some pages but if you want your own I think I know where there is one for sale in Dublin.

Title: Re: Packie Devlin
Post by: nrico2006 on April 17, 2015, 01:25:04 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on April 17, 2015, 12:05:57 PM
Quote from: robbieswift on April 17, 2015, 03:11:09 AM
Thank you for your reply. All I know of Packie Devlin are the details of his football career and his early death available online. A cousin of mine visited Killeshandra many years ago and it was then that we learned that Packie was the brother of our Granny. Further than that, I have very little.

Like many Irish families of the time, the family were dispersed with Annie-Mary (my Granny) and her sister Delia going to England while their brothers Packie and Johnny obviously remained behind.  We have no information on the family other than that, no knowledge of their parents, other siblings, where they lived etc. We also have no knowledge of Packie or Johnny's children, who would be our cousins once removed.

I've an interest in this type of thing myself so I'll try and help you out!

There are a few people who would know. First off in the Killeshandra parish is George Cartwright, former Cavan GAA County Board chairman. He has written a book on his own club Cornafean but back in those days people from Killeshandra often played with Cornafean as they were a senior team and you had to play senior in order to play for Cavan. So George might know some more. I'll also talk to the Mammy as she also knows everything about everyone in the area, she may know what families today are related to the Devlins.

One book you should look up if you can is "Cavans Football Story" by Fr Dan Gallogly. Its out of print and to buy it could set you back €100 to €200. It covers the 30's, 40's in detail that is not really on line. I have a copy myself and could copy you some pages but if you want your own I think I know where there is one for sale in Dublin.

Be interesting to hear what you find out for Robbie.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mrdeeds on April 19, 2015, 08:21:56 PM
Change topic seeing as club football going to be in full swing for next few weeks. What happened Lavey today.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on April 19, 2015, 08:35:16 PM
 A bit of a hiding alright. They seem to concede a lot of goals

Ramor have a strong management team this year with Michael McDermott along with Gary Farrelly,
Title: Re: Packie Devlin
Post by: mylestheslasher on April 20, 2015, 11:06:06 AM
Still looking into this for you. Seems Packie Devlin doesn't have much family left, if any around Killeshandra. My neighbour at home remember his brother Johnny though and I know where they lived, a small cottage at Croghan bridge which is now derelict (about a mile out the Ballyconnel road from Killeshandra). I'll see what else can be found out.
Title: Re: Packie Devlin
Post by: comeysfield on April 23, 2015, 06:35:54 PM
I have the Jim Smith never read it yet (keep meaning to ) so will see what is there about Packie in it and post it up
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on April 25, 2015, 11:24:07 AM
Sad news for Cavan GAA this morning...


Cavan GAA mourn passing of Shane Mulholland
April 25, 2015 By Cavan GAA
Cavan GAA are deeply saddened to hear of the tragic and untimely passing of our Hurling Development Administrator Shane Mulholland in a car accident last night.
A native of Loughiel, Co. Antrim, Shane lived in Derrylin, Co. Fermanagh. He was a talented hurler, playing for Lisbellaw and the Fermanagh Senior County Team.
Shane took up the position of Cavan GAA HDA in January and was very energetic and passionate in his role and had so many plans. A true gentleman taken before his time.
As a mark of respect to Shane, today's Ulster Minor Shield Finals in hurling and football between Cavan and Tyrone were postponed.
All in Cavan GAA extend our deepest sympathies to Shane's wife Vanessa, their daughter Aisling, the extended Mulholland family, friends and colleagues.
Ar dhéis Dé go raibh a ainm.
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Title: Re: Packie Devlin
Post by: mylestheslasher on April 27, 2015, 06:40:19 PM
Robbieswift - You do have some cousins remaining in Killeshandra and I can tell you apart from Packie, Johnny and your grandmother there were I think 1 others who emigrated to Scotland I think (Lena). When Killeshandra's pitch was opened the daughter of Lena came from Scotland to open the pitch.

In any case you have a large family of cousins remaining and I know they have good knowledge of the Devlin family and McKiernans (Packies mothers maiden name was McKiernan).

See here, you can see the Devlin household in the 1911 census...

http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/search/results.jsp?searchMoreVisible=false&census_year=1911&surname=devlin&firstname=&county19011911=Cavan&county1821=&county1831=&county1841=&county1851=&parish=&ward=&barony=&townland=killashandra&houseNumber=&ded=&age=&sex=&search=Search&ageInMonths=&relationToHead=&religion=&education=&occupation=&marriageStatus=&yearsMarried=&birthplace=&nativeCountry=&language=&deafdumb=&causeOfDeath=&yearOfDeath=&familiesNumber=&malesNumber=&femalesNumber=&maleServNumber=&femaleServNumber=&estChurchNumber=&romanCatNumber=&presbNumber=&protNumber=&marriageYears=&childrenBorn=&childrenLiving= (http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/search/results.jsp?searchMoreVisible=false&census_year=1911&surname=devlin&firstname=&county19011911=Cavan&county1821=&county1831=&county1841=&county1851=&parish=&ward=&barony=&townland=killashandra&houseNumber=&ded=&age=&sex=&search=Search&ageInMonths=&relationToHead=&religion=&education=&occupation=&marriageStatus=&yearsMarried=&birthplace=&nativeCountry=&language=&deafdumb=&causeOfDeath=&yearOfDeath=&familiesNumber=&malesNumber=&femalesNumber=&maleServNumber=&femaleServNumber=&estChurchNumber=&romanCatNumber=&presbNumber=&protNumber=&marriageYears=&childrenBorn=&childrenLiving=)

I will IM you incase you are not following the thread...
Title: Re: Packie Devlin
Post by: robbieswift on April 28, 2015, 11:12:27 AM
Myles., many thanks for your help. You are very kind. Strange looking at the census as it doesn't show my Granny, Annie Mary, or her sister Delia who emigrated to England with her. I know she was born in 1903 or 1904. Strange, but there has always been some mystery around my Granny's origins and she never talked about it.

It's nice to know we have family still in Ireland.
Title: Re: Packie Devlin
Post by: robbieswift on April 28, 2015, 11:25:41 AM
Looking at the census, there was an Annie Devlin, aged 8, living at  Drumgoohy. Also living there were Bessie (70) and Bridget (17). Perhaps a Grandmother and sister? This is interesting as I do recall some talk that Annie and her sister may not have lived with the rest of the family. Perhaps Bridget was Delia's real name. She could always have changed it in England. Mysterious!
Title: Re: Packie Devlin
Post by: mylestheslasher on April 28, 2015, 02:31:38 PM
Robbie - did you get my IM?

The guy I sent you an email for should be able to fill in some of the blanks.
Title: Re: Packie Devlin
Post by: robbieswift on April 29, 2015, 10:55:16 AM
Thank you Myles. I did receive your message and I will be contacting Father Dinny.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on April 30, 2015, 07:25:45 PM
So anyone got on any theories on how we might play or setup against Monaghan?

I think Killian Clarke will be sacrificed from midfield to mark McManus, He is too strong for Mcloughlin. I think it will be McKiernan in midfield along with either Mossy or Damien Reilly. Mackey will be getting some special treatment from Moan, Mackey is the better player but it will all depend on how his fitness has come along. I think this game will be low scoring and tight. Cavan likely to play two sweepers so hopefully should not cough up too many goal opportunities. Thats why I have a suspicion that Terry may spring a surprise and play Ray Galligan in goals. His kick outs would be accurate and his free taking ability from outside the 45 could also be massive if its tight.

Who do we play inside is a key question. Martin Dunne was out muscled against Monaghan the last time we played them, He will need someone to do the ball winning for him if he is to play. Its a long shot but maybe argue inside with him in a two man FF line. If Niall McD is to start then it will need to be Ctr forward.

Those are my thoughts anyway
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: comeysfield on May 01, 2015, 02:41:22 PM
not sure Killian Clarke is back playing so he has to be a serious doubt to start. Will know more tonight as we play Shercock will be interested to see if he get 15 minutes
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on May 02, 2015, 09:44:11 AM
Quote from: comeysfield on May 01, 2015, 02:41:22 PM
not sure Killian Clarke is back playing so he has to be a serious doubt to start. Will know more tonight as we play Shercock will be interested to see if he get 15 minutes

Did he appear?

I think the Cavan forum is nearing death, no discussion of any note as we head towards a massive game with our arch rivals.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on May 02, 2015, 09:17:03 PM
Seniors beat London by 13 points today in a challenge.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on May 02, 2015, 10:20:58 PM
Any word on what the team was Itchy?

Not at all confident going into the game against Monaghan. If we had Keating I'd be thinking maybe just maybe he'll have one of those days when he clicks and everything will go over for him and that would be enough to get us over the line. But I just don't see anyone else in our front 6 capable of that level of performance in Championship which could push us over the line against a very good Monaghan outfit.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on May 02, 2015, 10:37:42 PM
Its on Cavan gaa FacebookFacebook page.
Title: Re: Packie Devlin
Post by: five points on May 05, 2015, 10:10:28 AM
The book "Jim Smith Man of Breffni" is available in Easons in Cavan and also in Fitzsimons newsagents and other outlets around Virginia.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: comeysfield on May 05, 2015, 10:55:36 AM
Killian played second half, looked mobile and added to Shercock, Sankey was anonymous enough apart from one or two moves. Did Clarke play against Londain   
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4sam on May 05, 2015, 03:47:24 PM
Cavan Team v London. Pairc Emmet pitch opening Butlersbridge.
Raymond Galligan
Jason McLoughlin
Brian Sankey
Ciaran Brady
Niall Murray
Fergal Flanagan
Paul smith
Gearoid mcKeirnan
Tonmas Corr
Michael Argue
Niall mcDermott
Mark McKeever
Jack Brady
Martin Dunne
Tom Hayes
Title: Re: Packie Devlin
Post by: mylestheslasher on May 06, 2015, 10:54:56 AM
Cheers five points
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on May 10, 2015, 01:14:31 PM
If the rain I'm getting this morning in Galway is heading for Cavan then Ramors pitch is in for a good test this evening.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on May 10, 2015, 08:48:48 PM
Cavan 2-14 Meath 1-8. Two goals for Argue, martin Reilly and jack Brady for 4 or 5 points each. Think Mackey got 3. Meath were 3 up at half time.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on May 10, 2015, 09:12:11 PM
Good win for the lads, must have took complete control in the second half. Anyone at it to give a report?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on May 11, 2015, 10:23:23 AM
Good to see 2 Goals.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: packiedevlin on May 11, 2015, 11:54:18 AM
The 2 goals came from high balls that Argue got his fist to. I wouldnt read into the result at all, it was a 2nd team from Meath. However, Martin Dunne was very poor and I cant see how he'll start against Monaghan, Jack was very good and if its between those two for a position then its a no contest in my opinion. The best performer was Niall Murray at half back: showed great hunger, support play and lot of pace which I hadnt noticed before. Ronan Flanagan played in the forwards which was strange as I dont think he'll be there in 2 weeks time and Fergal Flanagan corner back after playing most of this year half back. There was no game time for McVeety either this week or last week, is he injured? Killian Clarke came off injured in the first half.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Western Blue on May 18, 2015, 12:01:41 AM
Heard on Sunday morning that Mayo played a challenge match against Cavan behind close doors on Saturday .Cavan won the game by 8 points.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on May 18, 2015, 08:02:28 PM
No one in Mayo seems to know anything about this game, did it really happen?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Western Blue on May 19, 2015, 01:00:51 AM
Could have been our Minors , asked A 0'S tonight and he knew nothing about it,sorry false dawn.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on May 21, 2015, 07:46:19 PM
Anyone think Galligan could start in goals on Sunday? If Terry had used him in the league and had him kick frees in the challenge games he played then Monaghan would surely have their stall set out to not foul within a specific range. If he thinks they could be caught unawares and we could punish them for fouling within Galligan's range it could give us a boost. I think it would be a huge risk though, if he makes a blunder the decision to start him would be crucified.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4sam on May 22, 2015, 10:45:44 AM
Terry Hyland and Cavan Management have named the starting team to play Monaghan in Sunday's Ulster Championship Quarter Final. Throw in in Kingspan Breffni Park is 2pm.

There are no debutants in the starting lineup with one noticeable absentee, Killian Clarke who is ruled out through injury.
Cavan Panel who played Galway

Senior Team in Full:
Conor Gilsenan (Bailieboro), Jason McLoughlin (Shannon Gaels), Rory Dunne (Redhills), Ronan Flanagan (Castlerahan), James McEnroe (Ramor Utd), Feargal Flanagan (Butlersbridge), Damien O'Reilly (Belturbet), Tomas Corr (Denn), Gearoid McKiernan (Swanlinbar), Dara McVeety (Crosserlough), Michael Argue (Bailieboro), Martin Reilly (Killygarry), Cian Mackey (Castlerahan), Martin Dunne (Cavan Gaels), Niall McDermott (Ballinagh).
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: comeysfield on May 22, 2015, 11:09:47 AM
Any word on a Minor team
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4sam on May 22, 2015, 11:26:39 AM
Cavan Minor team to play Monaghan Sunday 12.15pm in Kingspan Breffni Park
Fergal O'Rourke (Laragh Utd), Patrick O'Reilly (Crosserlough), Donal Monahan (Drumlane), Luke Fortune (Cavan Gaels), Dillon Raythorne (Templeport), Shane Fortune (Cavan Gaels), David Wilson (Lacken), David Brady (Ballyhaise), Conor Brady (Gowna), Darragh Gannon (Killygarry), Ryan O'Neill (Kildallan), Shane Moynagh (Lacken), Eoghan Cooney (Laragh Utd), Robbie Fitzpatrick (Gowna), Thomas Edward Donohoe (Denn)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on May 24, 2015, 06:50:03 PM
First three Hoganstand posts after the game are to say it was lost on the line... Surprise surprise.

Great chance for the Minors now, Antrim or Fermanagh next and an Ulster Final if they win that. Ulster losers meet Leinster Winners and visa versa.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: comeysfield on May 25, 2015, 11:11:52 AM
There will be a lot of people calling for Hyland's head now. Especially playing Ronan ahead of a recognized forward .  4 Points up and we went sideways with the ball was that the players or the line ? Could not understand how McKiernan stayed on in the crucial part of the game he just hid COrr ran out of steam but he put in one hell of a shift.  If Hyland wants to stay I expect the county board will stick with him as we do still seem to be making progress but without the breakthrough. A run in the qualifiers is not beyond this team. But we have to just cut out the silly fouls couple of players at critical moments jumping into lads backs when we had the numbers in place and absolutely no need

McManus's point from play at the end was a wonderful score unfortunately worth the entrance fee alone for that

Great win for the minors and also they all seemed physically big except one or two  so lots to work with there as well 
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: packiedevlin on May 25, 2015, 05:33:58 PM
I dont know how Mackey stayed on for so long, he was the poorest performer in my opinion .. cost us at least 3 points and the point from the throw in at the start of the second half was unforgivable considering they got a carbon copy from the throw in at the beginning of the game.
Heres the potential teams we can draw, not as bad as last year!

1.       Offaly

2.       Carlow

3.       Longford (assuming they lose to Dublin)             

4.       Cavan

5.       Fermanagh/Antrim

6.       Kildare/Laois

7.       Waterford/Tipperary

8.       London

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on May 25, 2015, 10:41:56 PM
I was unable to make or watch the match due to other commitments and I am so depressed with the result I have not been able to bring myself around to watching the recording of the game. Really thought we would do it. This is a real body blow and I think Hyland will do very well to keep the team together and move onto the qualifiers with a new goal to make the quarter finals.

What do people think of Hyland staying on after this year? I think we owe him a great debt, a huge debt in fact for bringing us to where we are now from where we were. However, that said I think a new voice in charge may be required as the thing may be becoming stagnant and a few new ideas are needed. That said we would have to be very careful the right man is chosen. Peter Reilly perhaps? Certainly no way McHale should be put into a manager role. My preference would be a Cavan man anyway.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on May 26, 2015, 02:40:47 AM
I'd go along with a lot of that Myles. I think for Hyland's project overall, Cavan really needed to topple Monaghan at the weekend and like yourself, I was confident we could do it. We were under the radar, at home, under no real pressure and against an opponent with which any inferiority, either actual or perceived, never translates to the field of play on a championship Sunday. It looked good for so long, and while I acknowledge and am grateful for what Hyland has contributed so far - and who knows what the qualifiers can bring - there are significant question marks now too:

1. It's simply unforgivable to revert to lateral football and keepball with 20 minutes to go against a seasoned opponent in an effort to play cute and see out the game. It just surrendered the initiative completely.
2. There was some headless and over exuberant tackling at times which will always exact a very heavy toll in a tight game, never mind one where we had our opponents genuinely gasping for air in attack at times. I think the referee was more willing to see Cavan fouls than Monaghan ones in the second half, however, but it shouldn't have been a deciding factor in the game from four up.
3. There was a similar headlessness in evidence with some wild passing attempts in to Argue, demoralising stuff, while some shot selection was also highly questionable, although allowances must be made for the wind in some of those instances.
4. In general the team's progress seems very slow and although it is still generally positive to a point, I do think these shortcomings in performance might well be down to the comfort that management - and by natural extension, the players - continually seek in the young team/inexperienced/building for the future/conveyor belt/five year plan stuff. Psychologically it offers a get-out clause in the back of the mind all the time. It's five years since we started making waves at underage and it really is time to start showing something more concrete.
5. Only if we unearth a forward of the class of McManus can we hope to prosper with the approach we appear to have cast in bronze at this stage.

Some of these opinions are offered in the gloom of disappointment at the result and who knows, it could prove a turning point and we might have a great year yet even if it looks like our approach will always cost us in big games. I'm not anti-Hyland or anything like that and I really do appreciate what he has given back to the team and county in general, I am just starting to wonder if the impetus of a new voice and modified thinking is required to re-calibrate and break what might turn into an eternal pattern of so-close-but-yet-so-far.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on May 26, 2015, 11:11:46 AM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on May 25, 2015, 10:41:56 PM
Peter Reilly perhaps? Certainly no way McHale should be put into a manager role. My preference would be a Cavan man anyway.

Peter Reilly is more negative than Terry Hyland and should not be let near the Senior team.


Why would you not want McHale near it?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on May 26, 2015, 11:31:22 AM
Take it from me, McHale is a trainer but he is not a manager. There is a big difference. I think most people in Ballina Stephenites would agree with that. If Terry is to stand down we need to be very careful. I'm also not sure I agree on Peter Reilly, he played the hand he was dealt. He did not have great forwards on any of his U21 teams which you can see by how many of them are playing senior with us now.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: comeysfield on May 27, 2015, 02:14:58 PM
Not sure Terry will just go and I doubt anybody  in county board will push him. Anyway I think Larry Reilly looked fitter last Sunday than the last time he played for Cavan. Maybe we should just start a bring back Larry campaign 
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on May 27, 2015, 08:15:18 PM
Peter Reilly had good forwards this year I thought at u21 level,in Madden and Hayes. Ryan Connolly couldn't make the team. They were good forwards for that level anyway.
Last year he only used Enda Hessin as a impact sub. Hessin was the best player in the Intermediate Championship last year, and one of the best the year before too.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on May 28, 2015, 10:39:38 AM
Quote from: rodney trotter on May 27, 2015, 08:15:18 PM
Peter Reilly had good forwards this year I thought at u21 level,in Madden and Hayes. Ryan Connolly couldn't make the team. They were good forwards for that level anyway.
Last year he only used Enda Hessin as a impact sub. Hessin was the best player in the Intermediate Championship last year, and one of the best the year before too.

Hayes in his first year at U21 and Madden is a good player but questions over his commitment and consistency. He didnt make the team the previous year and he is not on the senior panel. Hessin is good for sure, I can only imagine Peter was expecting a blanket defense against Donegal and left him off because of it. Hessin not on senior panel either this year. What I mean is there is no Paddy McBrearty or Enda Smith in Peter Reillys pick so he cut his cloth to measure.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: comeysfield on May 28, 2015, 12:28:03 PM
right now in Cavan we do not have an outstanding physical scoring forward that can win ball and deliver at this level. Changing the manager will not make a forward the approach still has to be that we will need to out work teams. Looking at the pool we have drawn a run in the qualifiers is not out of the question. Time to keep the faith look at diagonal ball to the bailieborough man. Somehow we have to get a lot more out of Gearoid and go and win a few games
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Blue in hope on May 28, 2015, 05:20:08 PM
Worth a read this lads.

http://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/c...ps-333297.html
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Blue in hope on May 28, 2015, 05:21:32 PM
http://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/columnists/paddy-heaney/new-position-needed-on-line-ups-333297.html

Sorry correct link
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on June 01, 2015, 10:11:23 AM
As daft as it might sound I only watched my recording of the match last night, since I was unable to attend this was my first viewing. Obviously I have read quite a bit about the match on here and indeed on the other ridiculous forum on hoganstand. I think Ray Galligan did very well apart from the frees at the end which carried huge pressure for a championship debutant playing in an unfamiliar position in some ways. I think the referree gave a lot of soft frees to both teams but without doubt Cavan got a rougher deal than Monaghan. One that stands out is a blatant push on McVitty which should have been a scorable free when we were 4 points up. Monaghan will point to the Moan penalty but for me there was minimal contact and i am fairly sure Moan could have stood up but went looking for a foul. A lot of people say Argue inside worked, not for me I'm afraid. Cavan put in 10-12 balls, we got two/three scores from them. Some of the passes were dire and often Argue was against two or three players. There did not seem to be another option inside. McDermott solid on frees but again he is not at his best inside, ball hasn't really be sticking to him and he is bringing it into contact needlessly. McEnroe substitution was strange. I head celt podcast and they said he was on a last warning but he had not committed a foul just before being replaced so I dont really understand that. His last play was a free and he seemed slow to get up so perhaps injury or lack of fitness was the problem. He certainly was a big strong player going off. Martin Reilly was rightly black carded. At the end of the day I think when Monaghan brought on the old heads they just grabbed the game by the scruff of the neck and drove on and I'd give them credit for that rather than attack the Cavan management. For me Hyland got most calls right and was so close to victory. The good news is that there is sweet FA between Cavan and Monaghan ability wise as far as I am concerned and if they are capable of Div 1 then so are Cavan. The glaring problem is the forwards and lack of them. That brings me to my next point. I see over on Hoganstand, where any imbecile with a laptop may post, people are blaming Hyland for the players that would not commit this year. I turn this on its head and I wonder if Keating especially had of committed could we have made an ulster final, yes I think. So does Keating need to have a look in the mirror and take responsibility for his part? I think so. If he didnt commit because Hyland is the manager (thats a big if) then he deserves to be left where he is next year too.

Finally I've thought about Hyland in charge next year. I would be ok with that. I still think that a new voice would be welcome but we need the right men available to take over. We do not want mcHale and personally I want the role kept within the county. Danny Brady, Larry, Peter Reilly, Ronan Carolan etc are potentials but another year under Terry would give those fellas a chance to advance with their current teams for one more year.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on June 01, 2015, 04:16:02 PM
Was McEnroe not on a yellow card when he was subbed?  No wiggleroom left.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on June 01, 2015, 09:32:53 PM
Quote from: Denn Forever on June 01, 2015, 04:16:02 PM
Was McEnroe not on a yellow card when he was subbed?  No wiggleroom left.

Oh he definitely was on a yellow but he got that in the 1st half. What I am wondering is why he was subbed 5 minutes into the 2nd half without having been involved in any foul as far as I could see. If the ref had told him he was on a last chance then that would have been in the 1st half and so they could have taken him off at half time. That explanation doesn't stack up for me but its possible I missed something that happened off the ball as I was only watching on the TV.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Old yeller on June 08, 2015, 08:07:26 AM
I was crying out for McEnroe to be taken off because it looked a cert that he wouldn't last the whole game without another card. It probably doesn't show up as much on TV as you say. I was hoping for McKeever to come on instead of him, we needed that extra bit of experience
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Old yeller on June 08, 2015, 08:08:12 AM
Who should we be hoping to get in the qualifiers?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on June 08, 2015, 09:18:17 AM
Keating didn't get along with Anthony Forde. It would be no harm if forde isn't involved in a future managment set up at County level.

London away in Ruislip


Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tierworker blue on June 08, 2015, 04:59:01 PM
The game in London is confirmed for the 20th in Ruislip, at 2pm folks.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Western Blue on June 10, 2015, 11:20:46 PM
Michael Argue for the States, can anyone confirm. Mentioned at last week-end match between Shercock /Bailieborough.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on June 11, 2015, 12:03:38 AM
Wouldnt surprise me. Lots of this years U21s have gone.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: comeysfield on June 11, 2015, 09:25:24 AM
Did Killian Clarke take any part in that game ?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on June 11, 2015, 11:28:23 AM
Anyone going to London?

You couldn't blame Argue, a bit like Killian Clarke last year he has been going at it with U21 and senior for a few years and I personally wouldn't begrudge him a trip away.

Realistically we should be beating London by 5/6 points and hopefully get some momentum with a few more games. I think we have as good a chance as anyone in the back door to progress but I think getting Killian back fit would be a huge bonus to us.

Anyone hear about Martin Dunne nearly walking of the pitch for the Gaels last weekend? Apparently he was convinced to stay on by none other than Seanie Johnston, nearly wet myself when I heard that!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tierworker blue on June 11, 2015, 08:11:30 PM
Yeah, I'm tippin' over with one of the lads and hooking up with a few reprobates over there. I've been to matches pretty much everywhere at this stage over the years, but never Ruislip. London will give it a fair lash, but if we play to our potential, it shouldn't be a banana skin! It would be great to get a run of some sort in the qualifiers, and they have as good a shot as anyone of getting a few games under the belt.

I was just chatting to someone d'other day about 'the bad old days' (we've seen enough of them, and I'm sure we all have plenty of stories, eh?!) and reminiscing about the time we went to Casement for a Tommy Murphy Cup game. There were only a handful of Cavan supporters there, and a lot of the team were arriving in cars...management mustn't have even bothered to organise a bus. When one of the players came up to us, like a lost child, and asked us how to get in to the ground, we knew we were banjaxed! Some people may complain about this and that nowadays (some with reason, some just for the sake of it!) but its well to remember how low the ebb really was, not that awfully long ago!

I havn't heard anything about Michael heading away...I must ring home and see what the local grapevine is saying.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Western Blue on June 11, 2015, 10:30:54 PM
Killian Clarke played at Full Forward for Shercock last Friday evening.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on June 14, 2015, 10:10:57 AM
Well done Paul Brady.  Champion of the world. 

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Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4sam on June 16, 2015, 09:06:50 PM
Lads, we are only a couple of days away from a Championship game and this place has gone so quiet.

Anyone hear anything from the camp? How's training going? Has Argue gone to the States? Is Killian Clarke fully fit? Have we played any challenge matches since the Monaghan match?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on June 16, 2015, 11:07:39 PM
Nothing to get excited about this weekend, Cavan should win easily. I heard nothing on Argue but Clarke is playing with Shercock.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on June 17, 2015, 09:28:43 AM
AS Gaelic Football continues to evolve the goalkeeping role is being placed under increased scrutiny. 

Dundalk custodian Gary Rogers might have carved out his reputation in the SSE Airtricity League of Ireland, but the Cavan goalkeeping coach is ideally placed to offer a valuable insight into what the position currently entails.  "Gaelic Football goalkeeping has changed dramatically," Rogers admits.

"Back in the day the only requirement was to have a good kick-out.  Now it is so much more and to be honest I envisage the day coming very soon when most inter-county goalkeepers will be outfield players.  Not alone that they will have to have the same qualities as any good outfield player.

"In soccer the goalkeeper is the only player that can handle the ball, but it is different in Gaelic Football.  It is so important to have somebody who is capable of making breaks, creating overlaps for defenders.

"So much of modern Gaelic Football is about retaining possession.  It would help teams greatly if they have a 'keeper, who can provide another option in different situations.  It would cause problems for teams if the 'keeper is capable of using the ball smartly."

Rogers has a strong pedigree in both sports having operated at inter-county level for Meath, while also enjoying a hugely productive career in domestic soccer.  So three years ago when Cavan boss Terry Hyland called Rogers was thrilled to embark on a new chapter in his own personal sporting journey.  "Around three years ago Terry Hyland first rang me about getting involved.  I was very interested because coaching was always something I had an interest in.

"At the time I was just about to join Sligo so when I initially started with Cavan it was in the off season and I really enjoyed it.  Then when I started with Sligo I was still able to get up to Cavan once a week and it is something that I'm delighted to be still doing.

"I've continued doing it and it has been rewarding.  Overall for Cavan the first year was the most successful with the team reaching the All Ireland quarter-finals.

"That showed what Cavan can achieve; I really enjoyed being part of that.  In my time there Cavan have used three different 'keepers in the Championship so I'm proud to have played a part in helping out those guys."

Hyland's diligence has earned Cavan significant respect.  Winning four Ulster under 21 titles on the spin between 2011 and 2014 means Cavan are now especially keen to make an impact at senior level.  "Terry runs a very good show," Rogers acknowledges.  "His preparation and attention to detail is very impressive.  The emphasis he puts on analysis of both his own team's performance and that of the opposition is interesting.  His ultimate desire is to improve Cavan football and I think that he is certainly doing that.

"Traditionally Cavan is a football stronghold and I've noticed that when the team gets a few good results there is serious interest in how they are doing.

"Having been so successful at under 21 level the challenge is now to transfer that to the senior grade.  The ultimate goal is to become one of the major powers again.  Things like that don't happen overnight, but I think Cavan people have lots of reason to be optimistic.

"In terms of the goalkeeping training Terry lets me do it.  Obviously because of my commitments with Dundalk, which mean an awful lot to me I cannot make every Cavan session.  It usually works out that I make one a week and Terry leaves it to me.  We would discuss things, but he is the manager.  He picks the team; I just want to ensure that his goalkeepers are prepared in the best way possible for him."

Cavan, though, will be fully aware of the threat a pumped up London side will carry at Ruislip on Saturday.  Hyland's charges know a tricky test awaits according to Rogers.  "I definitely think that Cavan can do well in the qualifiers.  At this stage it is all about generating momentum really.  The qualifiers are all about playing games and acquiring experience for young teams.  I don't see any reason why Cavan cannot do well this summer.

"Cavan won't take London lightly.  It is only two years since London contested a Connacht final.  I know Cavan beat them in the qualifiers then at Croke Park, but London are capable of springing a surprise.  If Cavan go about their business properly they should be able to come out on the right side of the result, but they will treat London with the respect they deserve."

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Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on June 17, 2015, 09:26:49 PM
Quote from: Itchy on June 16, 2015, 11:07:39 PM
Nothing to get excited about this weekend, Cavan should win easily. I heard nothing on Argue but Clarke is playing with Shercock.

Absolutely. If we are serious about going on a run in the qualifiers,we really should be demolishing London.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on June 17, 2015, 11:41:58 PM
Roscommon didn't demolish them, not many teams do in Ruislip. They will be competitive enough - Cavan should win by  6 or so.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on June 18, 2015, 12:41:58 AM
Quote from: rodney trotter on June 17, 2015, 11:41:58 PM
Roscommon didn't demolish them, not many teams do in Ruislip. They will be competitive enough - Cavan should win by  6 or so.

Were Roscommon not ahead by 1-11 to 0-5 points at one stage and then eased up???
I know we can say Ruislip is not an easy place to go and all that,but they are probably one of the 3 weakest teams in the competition,so it really shouldn't be close.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on June 18, 2015, 05:51:00 PM
Possibly was yeah. They had a stronger outfit in 2013,Mulvey still there, he has been a good servant for them.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Old yeller on June 20, 2015, 10:30:42 AM
Mulvey has done very well for them alright. He seems to have reinvented himself over there. Having said that, if he moved home tomorrow he wouldn't make the Cavan team I dont think.   I presume Rory will have the job of marking him
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Old yeller on June 20, 2015, 10:31:28 AM
Anybody else make the trip over?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on June 20, 2015, 12:26:01 PM
Didn't get to go over myself, will be heading to the Minor match tomorrow.

Mulvey looks a lot leaner then he ever was with Cavan. I'd say he wouldn't be far off the Cavan team, he is fairly accurate when he gets the ball.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on June 21, 2015, 12:35:54 PM
I went over to Ruislip yesterday. Facile victory, hard to do any real analysis. Cavan were just miles ahead of London in every facet of the game and I really think there were a gear or two extra in us too. Totally dominant in midfield were Corr did all the donkey work and Gearoid kicked 1-6 linking up very well on attacks. Like I said really hard to gauge how good or bad we were as the opposition were poor but I thought the forward runs of McVetty and gearoid were execellent and niall Mc played very well. Probably easier to pick the few negatives. Argue at FF had a hand in both goals but he just does not look natural under the high diagonal ball, flapping at them and seems to easy to knock of his stride - the few high balls that were put in were pretty poor too to be honest. Rory Dunne was down for a long time and that looked a serious injury, I'd be surprised to hear he will be back this year. I dont think there was much wrong with Killian, he had no ice on his leg and was walking freely after the game - I'm guessing he felt something and came off as a precaution. Seems also Terry is wielding the axe. Mackey dropped (did play well when he came on) and Martin Dunne dropped from match day panel. Mulvery huffed and puffed for London but same old story with him , he has power and strength but not a lot upstairs and not up to inter county standard in terms of fitness. He might do for 10mins at FF if you were looking for a goal but that is it. Not a loss to Cavan team anyway in my opinion.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on June 21, 2015, 01:09:15 PM
What sort of role was Gearoid playing myles?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on June 21, 2015, 02:06:21 PM
Quote from: Westside on June 21, 2015, 01:09:15 PM
What sort of role was Gearoid playing myles?

Its hard to say as it was so loose but I would say he was playing an advanced midfield/ctr forward role for the most part. He actually went in FF for the throw in and argue went to midfield then they switched back immediately - but that was probably more about us trying to win the throw ins.

Also meant to say Ray Galligans kick outs were outstanding and he kicked a 45 with such ease (put ball down, 3 steps back, quick glance at the posts and alsmost tapped it over). Gilsenan might have the huff but I tell you galligan is the best keeper and thats why he is starting.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: comeysfield on June 22, 2015, 10:28:58 AM
4th July Roscommon in Breffni
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on June 22, 2015, 12:57:24 PM
Happy with that draw as we've home advantage.  Now we'll see what ourselves and the Rossies are made of,  and it'll be a significant signpost as to where we're headed under Terry.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4sam on June 22, 2015, 03:50:58 PM
Hearing talk that Martin Dunne has left the panel. Can anyone confirm or deny this?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on June 22, 2015, 05:29:01 PM
Quote from: cavan4sam on June 22, 2015, 03:50:58 PM
Hearing talk that Martin Dunne has left the panel. Can anyone confirm or deny this?
Sure if he wants to walk away with him, personally getting a bit sick of hearing about lads who think they are so entitled to start that they feck off if they don't start. If you are not willing to fight for your place well away with ya
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on June 22, 2015, 09:04:44 PM
Well said Itchy. Dunne has had far too many poor games this year to have a guaranteed starting place. Hopefully he hasn't gone though as he definitely has something to add to the squad.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on June 22, 2015, 09:36:25 PM
Surpised he didn't walk after his theatrics when he was taken off against Kerry in 2013, throwing his hands in the air.

It's a bit like Conor Mortimer for Mayo - instead of  willing to get his place back he walks.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on June 22, 2015, 09:52:43 PM
Martin Dunne has strengths and weaknesses, his biggest problem is his lack of ball winning ability which means that he needs someone beside him to win him the ball. Now it is the managers prerogative if he wishes to make other changes in the team to accommodate Dunne and perhaps he has decided that he is not willing to do that, at least not against London. It would be really disappointing if Dunne reacts like this as he does have something to offer. He should think hard as this is a harsh decision and maybe he should instead channel his anger into something constructive.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: comeysfield on June 25, 2015, 03:20:44 PM
Think Dunne is just injured by all accounts
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on June 25, 2015, 03:33:19 PM
Picked up a hand injury against Louth in a challenge game, would have been drastic enough to be walking off the panel.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4sam on June 25, 2015, 08:45:01 PM
Yea, seen McHale interview in the Celt saying that alright.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tierworker blue on June 26, 2015, 12:01:53 AM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on June 21, 2015, 12:35:54 PM
I went over to Ruislip yesterday. Facile victory, hard to do any real analysis. Cavan were just miles ahead of London in every facet of the game and I really think there were a gear or two extra in us too. Totally dominant in midfield were Corr did all the donkey work and Gearoid kicked 1-6 linking up very well on attacks. Like I said really hard to gauge how good or bad we were as the opposition were poor but I thought the forward runs of McVetty and gearoid were execellent and niall Mc played very well. Probably easier to pick the few negatives. Argue at FF had a hand in both goals but he just does not look natural under the high diagonal ball, flapping at them and seems to easy to knock of his stride - the few high balls that were put in were pretty poor too to be honest. Rory Dunne was down for a long time and that looked a serious injury, I'd be surprised to hear he will be back this year. I dont think there was much wrong with Killian, he had no ice on his leg and was walking freely after the game - I'm guessing he felt something and came off as a precaution. Seems also Terry is wielding the axe. Mackey dropped (did play well when he came on) and Martin Dunne dropped from match day panel. Mulvery huffed and puffed for London but same old story with him , he has power and strength but not a lot upstairs and not up to inter county standard in terms of fitness. He might do for 10mins at FF if you were looking for a goal but that is it. Not a loss to Cavan team anyway in my opinion.

I havn't been online since getting home from London but yep, I'd pretty much agree with all of that Myles. Rory is a huge loss ahead of the Ros game. I havn't heard much about Killian, but I did notice that he didn't leave with the rest of the team on the bus. In fairness, that could be a pre-arranged thing, and doesn't mean that he was injured and waving goodbye to the rest of the Summer.
There was a huge amount of space in the game, but you can only beat what is put in front of you, so even though it was a very straight forward win, it was good for the lads to be able to stretch their legs. We've put up good scores in the London game, and a challenge against Louth, and had a good showing against the Dubs (from what I've been told) so at least we're facing the next qualifier with a small bit of pep in our step!
I'm told that there have been a few niggles on the Ros panel (the bus had to be pulled over on the way to the Sligo game apparently, so lads could be separated etc) so hopefully we'll get the upper hand...we owe them one at this stage! A row in their panel could clear the air and unite them though, so it isn't necessarily a good thing from our point of view.
Heading over to Ruislip was great auld fun, and it was nice that everyone hung around afterwards (supporters and team for a while) and had a bit of craic. 90% of the time these days, we go to matches, and just hop in the car afterwards, so it was good to have an away day and a weekend's divilment following the team!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on June 28, 2015, 10:12:17 PM
Gerry Reilly cup first game Cavan 0-13 Monaghan 1-9
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on July 01, 2015, 01:14:49 PM
Good interview with Ray Galligan in Celt today. Especially interesting to hear the comparison between this panel and the last one he was in with Val Andrews.

I'm expecting a Cavan win on Saturday, crunch crunch match for Terry and the boys
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on July 03, 2015, 09:55:38 PM
No team named yet, what's the story?

I have a feeling hyland will play gunner at fb.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on July 04, 2015, 12:13:43 PM
I wouldn't like the thoughts of Gunner on someone like Senan Kilbride. Hard to know if he'll play or not though. McEnroe could do a job I'm sure but if we're to take the game to Roscommon Id rather him out the field, he offers much more between the two 45s. Hopefully Galligan will be taking the frees and we can punish Roscommon for any sloppy tackling. If the Roscommon team is as depleted as we're hearing, we should be taking full advantage as they did last year and leaving Breffni with a solid win.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on July 04, 2015, 12:16:40 PM
Team named just now. McEnroe at Full Back, Gunner at corner back. No Killian Clarke or Martin Dunne.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on July 04, 2015, 12:19:25 PM
Cavan must have one of the smallest half forward lines in the Country.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on July 04, 2015, 12:56:17 PM
Looks like Donie Shine starts for Roscommon. Our discipline in the tackle will be vital. It let us down against Monaghan and we gave away a lot against Monaghan too.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on July 04, 2015, 01:22:19 PM
Yeah Shine is excellent from free's. It will be a plus if Murtagh and Kilbride don't start.

Roscommon have other good forwards like Ciaran Murtagh , Cathal Cregg but those 2 are chief scorers from play.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on July 04, 2015, 06:55:34 PM
With thanks for all he's done to drag us from a very dark place,  I think it's time for Terry to move on.
The poverty of our attacking play and inability to knit play together in any sort of offensive pattern or system is now actually embarrassing to look at. It's harsh on a guy who did so much but hand on heart I can't foresee a single  positive coming from retaining him as manager.  He has taken us as far as he can and now we need something different.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on July 04, 2015, 07:23:37 PM
Tough stuff to watch alright. Terry probaly will go

A new manager doesn't mean everything either - there is a lot of players on that Cavan team who can barely break a tackle.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on July 05, 2015, 05:57:30 PM
That really was devastating for us yesterday and leaves us at a cross roads on where to go next. In the first half we had matched Roscommon, worked a good goal and had a nice kick out strategy with McKiernan coming into midfield from deep meeting excellent kicks from Galligan. I thought against a strong wind we just needed to stay in touch and in the 2nd half we could finish it off and from that perspective the first half was pretty much to plan. Then came the sending off (Am I the only one that thinks it was harsh? Seemed to me Corr was lashing out at a guy who was pulling at him rather than targeting a fella with a box - that said Corr and Cavan need to use more brains) and the game plan totally came undone, with more space Ros just ran and ran at us and their power and pace cut us to pieces. I have to say I think the line also cost us in the 2nd half and there were some really bizarre things going on and I will list these below...

- Ray Galligan kicks a 45 v London and 50m free v Monaghan yet with the wind behind us M Reilly and then B Reilly take frees which I am confident Ray would have kicked. Can't understand that.
- It seems we knew at HT that Corr was a goner (despite what Terry said in his after match interview). Surely to god the tactic was then simple with the wind behind us, get 13 men behind the ball like last year, turnover Ros, work it to the Ros 45 and float over some long range points like Barry Reilly did and many others can. What we did instead was play wildly open at the back, man to man in many cases. This was a terrible call from management. I'm not sure are the media "puke football" merchants getting  to Hyland but I say f**k them, management are in the business of winning and that game was still there for us.
- Fitness was not there again, just like against Monaghan. We looked to have only 3/4 of a game in the legs - very disappointing to see. Ros could have bagged 2/3 more goals if they were more clinical.
- Work rate. Something went badly wrong in the heads yesterday too. I saw Damien Reilly give a dire handpass which was intercepted and not even attempt to atone for it. I saw Mackey walking around like a prize peacock until he gets the ball handed to him then suddenly he can run again. Some of our so called leaders lay down as far as I am concerned yesterday.
- Subs. Holla is not started. Moynagh comes on ahead of him and Holla then comes on 10 mins later - whats that about. Enda Reilly did really well against London but then falls behind Tom Hayes who I dont think even got a run against London. Are they drawing the subs out of a hat or what?? All over the shop.
- Argue. I feel sorry for Argue, he is not a FF end of story. A lot of people have been saying that Argue and the game plan around Argue has "given teams something to think about" well I am sorry, it has not worked at all in my opinion in any of the games, including London. The balls in have been largely poor but yesterday even the balls that were good he couldn't hold. It is a failed tactic. Argue should have been moved to the half forward line with the wind at his back he'd have kicked 2/3 points in the 2nd half from out there.

The future. Well I think its fairly clear Terry will go now. I think the time is right. We owe Terry an awful awful lot. He took us from the abyss and his reign should be and hopefully will be remembered as a turning point in our history. He should go because a new face and new ideas is what this team needs I think. On a new manager I have only one requirement - a Cavan man or at least a man based in Cavan. No big money outsiders as that will fail - you cannot ask 30 lads to make sacrifices (including their jobs) and then have a manager pocketing 30k or whatever a year. It will not work and has hardly ever worked for any county. We also need to realise that for whatever reason Cavan do not have top quality forwards so we must cut our cloth to fit until we find some. All this shite talk on hoganstand about free flowing attacking football is such a load of crap - Sligo have better forwards than Cavan, we don't have the players for that game. For me I would bring in Peter Reilly from the U21s. A well respected coach, a lad  that the young players would admire and a man that was a leader on the pitch. Get a good team around Peter and move on. We need to then scour the county and get the best forwards on the panel (with the exception of Johnston who should be left where he is, he has no place on any Cavan team as far as I am concerned). Players like Conor Madden, Keating etc need to be worked on as they have the raw ingredients but have been let down by other issues.

Finally we need to strengthen the atrocious standard of club football. Implement the plan that was to be implemented 3 years ago. Clubs need to stop their inward looking and work for the greater good. You can see this attitude over on that other forum when a player is dropped from the county team a gang of pricks from his club are on slagging off other players and management. Its sad. Its big fish in a small pond thinking. The system above is good enough for Kerry. Our new chairman needs to make this his mission while in the chair.

Hopefully our minors can keep the conveyor rolling in the next few weeks, we could do with a pick me up.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on July 05, 2015, 06:39:02 PM
Yeah Club football needs to be sorted out. 17 Clubs still in the Senior Championship. Drumalee are bottom of Division 2 , and are among the teams in Senior.

A Cavan Club has never won Ulster Senior Club, last apperance was 95. It will hardly change this year

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Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Western Blue on July 06, 2015, 12:21:59 AM
Was so looking forward to the 2nd half and believed we would finish the game with a win.  Corr let us down and his team mates badly. That's 3 players that have cost us big time this year , Damien Reilly,Ronan Flanagan and Mossie Corr. I would give Terry Hyland one more year as he was unlucky with the injuries,sendings off,and players that could not commit this year. James Horan is the best man to replace Terry in the event of him leaving but I believe he  has a big management position with Coca Cola in Ballina and lives in Castlebar with a young family,therefore I cant see him commuting 3 times a week to Cavan. Not sure he gets on with Liam McHale too. Story has it the Evans is going from Roscommon and Kevin McStay is lined up to take over. Long shot might be Michael McDermott the ex Clare Manager and Kilmurry-Ilbricken  Manager who is a Cavan man living in Virgina now.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: comeysfield on July 06, 2015, 02:30:47 PM
We fell away badly but if Hyland wants another year would not be totally surprised if he does get it. I would think the ball is in his court initially. One man who absolutely has to go is McHale as he cannot even get himself to say WE in an interview. If he is not committed then shag off else where. We are a team in progression and what we really need is the OFFENCE plan if Hyland thinks he can find the right man then maybe he is worth a try. We know our lack of fowards but we have to do something why Enda Reilly is not an option is a surprise.  But, think it may be time for somebody to come in and call the shots our big players did not show any real heart in that 15 mins after half time. Fresh team, fresh approach but hopefully very much centered around a Cavan man but will not fall off horse if he gets another year
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Myra mains on July 06, 2015, 10:56:19 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on July 05, 2015, 05:57:30 PM
That really was devastating for us yesterday and leaves us at a cross roads on where to go next. In the first half we had matched Roscommon, worked a good goal and had a nice kick out strategy with McKiernan coming into midfield from deep meeting excellent kicks from Galligan. I thought against a strong wind we just needed to stay in touch and in the 2nd half we could finish it off and from that perspective the first half was pretty much to plan. Then came the sending off (Am I the only one that thinks it was harsh? Seemed to me Corr was lashing out at a guy who was pulling at him rather than targeting a fella with a box - that said Corr and Cavan need to use more brains) and the game plan totally came undone, with more space Ros just ran and ran at us and their power and pace cut us to pieces. I have to say I think the line also cost us in the 2nd half and there were some really bizarre things going on and I will list these below...

- Ray Galligan kicks a 45 v London and 50m free v Monaghan yet with the wind behind us M Reilly and then B Reilly take frees which I am confident Ray would have kicked. Can't understand that.
- It seems we knew at HT that Corr was a goner (despite what Terry said in his after match interview). Surely to god the tactic was then simple with the wind behind us, get 13 men behind the ball like last year, turnover Ros, work it to the Ros 45 and float over some long range points like Barry Reilly did and many others can. What we did instead was play wildly open at the back, man to man in many cases. This was a terrible call from management. I'm not sure are the media "puke football" merchants getting  to Hyland but I say f**k them, management are in the business of winning and that game was still there for us.
- Fitness was not there again, just like against Monaghan. We looked to have only 3/4 of a game in the legs - very disappointing to see. Ros could have bagged 2/3 more goals if they were more clinical.
- Work rate. Something went badly wrong in the heads yesterday too. I saw Damien Reilly give a dire handpass which was intercepted and not even attempt to atone for it. I saw Mackey walking around like a prize peacock until he gets the ball handed to him then suddenly he can run again. Some of our so called leaders lay down as far as I am concerned yesterday.
- Subs. Holla is not started. Moynagh comes on ahead of him and Holla then comes on 10 mins later - whats that about. Enda Reilly did really well against London but then falls behind Tom Hayes who I dont think even got a run against London. Are they drawing the subs out of a hat or what?? All over the shop.
- Argue. I feel sorry for Argue, he is not a FF end of story. A lot of people have been saying that Argue and the game plan around Argue has "given teams something to think about" well I am sorry, it has not worked at all in my opinion in any of the games, including London. The balls in have been largely poor but yesterday even the balls that were good he couldn't hold. It is a failed tactic. Argue should have been moved to the half forward line with the wind at his back he'd have kicked 2/3 points in the 2nd half from out there.

The future. Well I think its fairly clear Terry will go now. I think the time is right. We owe Terry an awful awful lot. He took us from the abyss and his reign should be and hopefully will be remembered as a turning point in our history. He should go because a new face and new ideas is what this team needs I think. On a new manager I have only one requirement - a Cavan man or at least a man based in Cavan. No big money outsiders as that will fail - you cannot ask 30 lads to make sacrifices (including their jobs) and then have a manager pocketing 30k or whatever a year. It will not work and has hardly ever worked for any county. We also need to realise that for whatever reason Cavan do not have top quality forwards so we must cut our cloth to fit until we find some. All this shite talk on hoganstand about free flowing attacking football is such a load of crap - Sligo have better forwards than Cavan, we don't have the players for that game. For me I would bring in Peter Reilly from the U21s. A well respected coach, a lad  that the young players would admire and a man that was a leader on the pitch. Get a good team around Peter and move on. We need to then scour the county and get the best forwards on the panel (with the exception of Johnston who should be left where he is, he has no place on any Cavan team as far as I am concerned). Players like Conor Madden, Keating etc need to be worked on as they have the raw ingredients but have been let down by other issues.

Finally we need to strengthen the atrocious standard of club football. Implement the plan that was to be implemented 3 years ago. Clubs need to stop their inward looking and work for the greater good. You can see this attitude over on that other forum when a player is dropped from the county team a gang of pricks from his club are on slagging off other players and management. Its sad. Its big fish in a small pond thinking. The system above is good enough for Kerry. Our new chairman needs to make this his mission while in the chair.

Hopefully our minors can keep the conveyor rolling in the next few weeks, we could do with a pick me up.
Still showing sour grapes over the Seanie Johnston episode 3 years ago. Well I heard he was the best scoring club forward in last years club championship? What are you going to do when Hyland and Forde leave and a new manager invited him back? Because it will happen. Move on ya bollox ya.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on July 07, 2015, 12:44:04 AM
There's no way the decision should be Hyland's to make, he simply has not earned that right. He got his second chance after a very tame 2014 showing and we've seen now that despite his best and wholehearted efforts, he has completely run out of ideas and it looks like some of the players are no longer buying it either.

One of the best things we can say that he did though was to maintain a new standard for the type of behaviour and attitude expected of any player who wants to wear the blue jersey. There is no longer a sense that playing for the county team is a 'favour' a player does for his county, there's no more going cap-in-hand to lads with dodgy pasts, giving them chance after chance to swing the lead and wag the dog because we're only seeing the next match and not the longer road ahead. Despite not winning anything, at least the county team is now bigger than any one player and that's how it must stay unless people want a return to the way it was 5/6 years ago. And I think most sensible people have actually moved on from the Johnson issue and it's really only those with the short-term view and no concern for the sustained health of the game in the county that keep calling for his return - they are truly the ones that haven't moved on because there's just no longer any place whatsoever for lads like him, who despite having all the talent in the world have a toxic attitude that infects and stymies the whole panel. I know the post above is just from a wind-up merchant but there are too many people who genuinely would have Johnson back in the morning and that's ridiculous IMO.

So fair play to Terry for staying strong on issues like this and for raising the bar overall. But I do feel he has run out of road and now it's time for someone else to take over. People say we have no forwards but I wonder how much of this is due to coming up the ranks and having a very defensive mindset ingrained from a very young age, because of the degree of success achieved that way? I think a diluting of the negative focus would suddenly see a few lads open up a little and find they have a few more scores in their boots than they realise. For that reason I wonder if Peter Reilly is the answer, he also seems committed to that way of playing?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on July 07, 2015, 08:52:39 AM
Always a pleasure to see someone sign up for one post just to call me a bollix. I agree totally with Cavanmaniac, as far as I am concerned that particular issue was dealt with. If someone was to reverse the decision taken 3 years ago well I would personally have to give a lot of thought whether I'd be bothered to make the journeys I do to follow the team - I don't think I would be the only one with that opinion too. Not sure what the sour grapes reference means, what have I got to have sour grapes about???
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on July 07, 2015, 09:24:21 AM
Quote from: cavanmaniac on July 07, 2015, 12:44:04 AM
There's no way the decision should be Hyland's to make, he simply has not earned that right. He got his second chance after a very tame 2014 showing and we've seen now that despite his best and wholehearted efforts, he has completely run out of ideas and it looks like some of the players are no longer buying it either.

One of the best things we can say that he did though was to maintain a new standard for the type of behaviour and attitude expected of any player who wants to wear the blue jersey. There is no longer a sense that playing for the county team is a 'favour' a player does for his county, there's no more going cap-in-hand to lads with dodgy pasts, giving them chance after chance to swing the lead and wag the dog because we're only seeing the next match and not the longer road ahead. Despite not winning anything, at least the county team is now bigger than any one player and that's how it must stay unless people want a return to the way it was 5/6 years ago. And I think most sensible people have actually moved on from the Johnson issue and it's really only those with the short-term view and no concern for the sustained health of the game in the county that keep calling for his return - they are truly the ones that haven't moved on because there's just no longer any place whatsoever for lads like him, who despite having all the talent in the world have a toxic attitude that infects and stymies the whole panel. I know the post above is just from a wind-up merchant but there are too many people who genuinely would have Johnson back in the morning and that's ridiculous IMO.

So fair play to Terry for staying strong on issues like this and for raising the bar overall. But I do feel he has run out of road and now it's time for someone else to take over. People say we have no forwards but I wonder how much of this is due to coming up the ranks and having a very defensive mindset ingrained from a very young age, because of the degree of success achieved that way? I think a diluting of the negative focus would suddenly see a few lads open up a little and find they have a few more scores in their boots than they realise. For that reason I wonder if Peter Reilly is the answer, he also seems committed to that way of playing?

Which way of playing should Cavan be playing? Look at the size of the Cavan team compared to Roscommon - None of the half Cavan half forward were 6ft (mackey martin reilly and McVeety), Martin Dunne isn't near 6ft or Tom Hayes, Jack Brady, Ronan Flanagan

Enda Smith is a good example of a player Cavan lack in the forward line
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4sam on July 07, 2015, 09:55:56 AM
Has there been any definite date set for the club championship yet?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: comeysfield on July 07, 2015, 02:15:30 PM
Some prelim games on Wednesday July 22

Some first round and Prelim and 1st weekend of August

All others on 6th 9th August
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on July 07, 2015, 02:18:27 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on July 07, 2015, 09:24:21 AM
Quote from: cavanmaniac on July 07, 2015, 12:44:04 AM
There's no way the decision should be Hyland's to make, he simply has not earned that right. He got his second chance after a very tame 2014 showing and we've seen now that despite his best and wholehearted efforts, he has completely run out of ideas and it looks like some of the players are no longer buying it either.

One of the best things we can say that he did though was to maintain a new standard for the type of behaviour and attitude expected of any player who wants to wear the blue jersey. There is no longer a sense that playing for the county team is a 'favour' a player does for his county, there's no more going cap-in-hand to lads with dodgy pasts, giving them chance after chance to swing the lead and wag the dog because we're only seeing the next match and not the longer road ahead. Despite not winning anything, at least the county team is now bigger than any one player and that's how it must stay unless people want a return to the way it was 5/6 years ago. And I think most sensible people have actually moved on from the Johnson issue and it's really only those with the short-term view and no concern for the sustained health of the game in the county that keep calling for his return - they are truly the ones that haven't moved on because there's just no longer any place whatsoever for lads like him, who despite having all the talent in the world have a toxic attitude that infects and stymies the whole panel. I know the post above is just from a wind-up merchant but there are too many people who genuinely would have Johnson back in the morning and that's ridiculous IMO.

So fair play to Terry for staying strong on issues like this and for raising the bar overall. But I do feel he has run out of road and now it's time for someone else to take over. People say we have no forwards but I wonder how much of this is due to coming up the ranks and having a very defensive mindset ingrained from a very young age, because of the degree of success achieved that way? I think a diluting of the negative focus would suddenly see a few lads open up a little and find they have a few more scores in their boots than they realise. For that reason I wonder if Peter Reilly is the answer, he also seems committed to that way of playing?

Which way of playing should Cavan be playing? Look at the size of the Cavan team compared to Roscommon - None of the half Cavan half forward were 6ft (mackey martin reilly and McVeety), Martin Dunne isn't near 6ft or Tom Hayes, Jack Brady, Ronan Flanagan

Enda Smith is a good example of a player Cavan lack in the forward line
I agree.
Others including myself have said it before,we need a physically bigger team. If that means sacrificing some skill for size and speed,so be it.
Certain lads looked like under 16's compared to some of their Roscommon opponents.

As Comeysfield said, Any games with teams featuring county minors won't have to play until the 6-9th of August,all other first rounds on the Bank holiday weekend.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on July 07, 2015, 02:31:23 PM
I don't mean wholesale/baby and bath water changes to the playing approach as such but when you see the team retreating into keep ball with Monaghan shipping water,  and other lads passing up on opportunities to shoot in favour of shoveling the ball around,  it suggests there's too great a focus on negativity which is in itself a signal to the players that in a way,  they're not good enough. There's more in the team (even if we're nowhere near the top tier)  if a better balance can be struck between defensive solidity and a little bit of craft,  guile,  invention and speed in attack.  Things are so heavily concentrated on not losing that the team looks all at sea and actually,  embarrassingly  under coached  when moving beyond midfield.
In hindsight,  Keating despite his failings was a huge loss up front. Cavan's sheer lack of edge beyond the 45m line was almost bizarre,  but again,  a few more balls into Argue that weren't hopelessly misdirected,  and a degree of support around him for any breaks,  might have improved things a little.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Myra mains on July 07, 2015, 02:36:29 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on July 07, 2015, 08:52:39 AM
Always a pleasure to see someone sign up for one post just to call me a bollix. I agree totally with Cavanmaniac, as far as I am concerned that particular issue was dealt with. If someone was to reverse the decision taken 3 years ago well I would personally have to give a lot of thought whether I'd be bothered to make the journeys I do to follow the team - I don't think I would be the only one with that opinion too. Not sure what the sour grapes reference means, what have I got to have sour grapes about???
i was actually living in Kildare when you were in the middle of your Seanie Johnston bashing. Who really gives a f**k whether you are making journeys to follow Cavan or not? Who? Judging by the attendance last Saturday lots of ppl have already made the same decision as I hope u will be making. Take it from me Seanie Johnston will play for Cavan under new management as will Tierney and Keating. Now that can only be good for Cavan football as we are short a few forwards. Now whether you are following the team or not who really gives a f**k?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on July 07, 2015, 02:46:59 PM
Declan McKiernan whom is playing great stuff with Killeshandra should also be asked back. He was always a very good footballer,but he is a lot leaner and quicker than in other years.
There are also others such as Paul O Connor(whom has returned to form and is playing great stuff with the Gaels) and Philly Tinnelly whom need to be brought back in and given a proper chance.
I'm not going to attack any specific panel member as they have put in a massive amount of work,but those 3 and some of the others mentioned by other posters are much better footballers  than some on the starting team and the panel.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on July 07, 2015, 03:46:28 PM
Quote from: Myra mains on July 07, 2015, 02:36:29 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on July 07, 2015, 08:52:39 AM
Always a pleasure to see someone sign up for one post just to call me a bollix. I agree totally with Cavanmaniac, as far as I am concerned that particular issue was dealt with. If someone was to reverse the decision taken 3 years ago well I would personally have to give a lot of thought whether I'd be bothered to make the journeys I do to follow the team - I don't think I would be the only one with that opinion too. Not sure what the sour grapes reference means, what have I got to have sour grapes about???
i was actually living in Kildare when you were in the middle of your Seanie Johnston bashing. Who really gives a f**k whether you are making journeys to follow Cavan or not? Who? Judging by the attendance last Saturday lots of ppl have already made the same decision as I hope u will be making. Take it from me Seanie Johnston will play for Cavan under new management as will Tierney and Keating. Now that can only be good for Cavan football as we are short a few forwards. Now whether you are following the team or not who really gives a f**k?

Glad to see someone was actually living in Kildare, Seanie wasn't after all. Listen, I know school is finished for the year and you have time on your hands but do me a favour and go play your Xbox or something.
BTW - as to who cares about me, well you were the one that asked me what I was going to do so I presume you care which is touching I must say.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Myra mains on July 07, 2015, 04:57:09 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on July 07, 2015, 03:46:28 PM
Quote from: Myra mains on July 07, 2015, 02:36:29 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on July 07, 2015, 08:52:39 AM
Always a pleasure to see someone sign up for one post just to call me a bollix. I agree totally with Cavanmaniac, as far as I am concerned that particular issue was dealt with. If someone was to reverse the decision taken 3 years ago well I would personally have to give a lot of thought whether I'd be bothered to make the journeys I do to follow the team - I don't think I would be the only one with that opinion too. Not sure what the sour grapes reference means, what have I got to have sour grapes about???
i was actually living in Kildare when you were in the middle of your Seanie Johnston bashing. Who really gives a f**k whether you are making journeys to follow Cavan or not? Who? Judging by the attendance last Saturday lots of ppl have already made the same decision as I hope u will be making. Take it from me Seanie Johnston will play for Cavan under new management as will Tierney and Keating. Now that can only be good for Cavan football as we are short a few forwards. Now whether you are following the team or not who really gives a f**k?

Glad to see someone was actually living in Kildare, Seanie wasn't after all. Listen, I know school is finished for the year and you have time on your hands but do me a favour and go play your Xbox or something.
BTW - as to who cares about me, well you were the one that asked me what I was going to do so I presume you care which is touching I must say.
and when it comes to talking about good forwards in the county take the chip of the shoulder and the blinkers off let bygones be bygones for the betterment of Cavan football . That's if your a true supporter at all. Sooner Seanie and co are back on the scene the better even if it means losing you as a so called supporter. Least we won't have to read your shite any more. That alone would be a good enough reason to see Seanie back
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on July 07, 2015, 07:15:31 PM
You've a dirty mouth Myra Hindley.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on July 07, 2015, 08:05:08 PM
Myra as matter of interest do you thing Seanie can make a difference?

He couldn't get much game time on a Kildare team who supposedly had poor forwards.

He is now two or three years older and isn't playing much club football.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on July 07, 2015, 08:19:30 PM
Any manager who comes in and asks Johnston onto the panel will automatically prove himself not up to the job. A player well past his best and the most surefire way of causing a split in the camp. It won't happen.

For me, Peter Reilly has to have first refusal on the job. Every Cavan team is now managed by a Cavan person and it needs to stay that way. Our underage successes have all come with Cavan managers at the helm. People want to follow the example of the top counties, then why not in this respect? The people on HS calling for James Horan and Jim McGuinness are embarrassing.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on July 07, 2015, 08:28:45 PM
They wouldn't be available anyway. Horan has big work commitments and said he couldn't see himself managing anither County.  McGuinness has a bigger role with Celtic next season working with the first team.

Niall Lynch wouldn't be a bad choice.  Done good work at schools level with Virginia, and Mullahoran and  kingscourt
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Myra mains on July 07, 2015, 08:43:53 PM
Quote from: Westside on July 07, 2015, 08:19:30 PM
Any manager who comes in and asks Johnston onto the panel will automatically prove himself not up to the job. A player well past his best and the most surefire way of causing a split in the camp. It won't happen.

For me, Peter Reilly has to have first refusal on the job. Every Cavan team is now managed by a Cavan person and it needs to stay that way. Our underage successes have all come with Cavan managers at the helm. People want to follow the example of the top counties, then why not in this respect? The people on HS calling for James Horan and Jim McGuinness are embarrassing.
lads ye would need to seek facts before going to print. There are too many players not on the panel the split is already there. At least half the current panel have no problem with Johnstons return if he adds to the setup. Listen to Hylands interview after the game against Ross. Listen to the shite he talked about the mossy sending off and what he knew about it. Pure shite talk.listen to his interviews about players who left the panel during the year. Pure shite if you know the real story . I know why 1 particular player left and it not anything like the story Hyland protrays. It's the exact opposite. He's a shite talker who's starting to lose respect and get found out. Johnston won't play under anything that Forde is involved in . But he will play for Cavan again as will Tierney Givney Keating.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on July 07, 2015, 09:08:26 PM
Quote from: Myra mains on July 07, 2015, 08:43:53 PM
Quote from: Westside on July 07, 2015, 08:19:30 PM
Any manager who comes in and asks Johnston onto the panel will automatically prove himself not up to the job. A player well past his best and the most surefire way of causing a split in the camp. It won't happen.

For me, Peter Reilly has to have first refusal on the job. Every Cavan team is now managed by a Cavan person and it needs to stay that way. Our underage successes have all come with Cavan managers at the helm. People want to follow the example of the top counties, then why not in this respect? The people on HS calling for James Horan and Jim McGuinness are embarrassing.
lads ye would need to seek facts before going to print. There are too many players not on the panel the split is already there. At least half the current panel have no problem with Johnstons return if he adds to the setup. Listen to Hylands interview after the game against Ross. Listen to the shite he talked about the mossy sending off and what he knew about it. Pure shite talk.listen to his interviews about players who left the panel during the year. Pure shite if you know the real story . I know why 1 particular player left and it not anything like the story Hyland protrays. It's the exact opposite. He's a shite talker who's starting to lose respect and get found out. Johnston won't play under anything that Forde is involved in . But he will play for Cavan again as will Tierney Givney Keating.

At least half the panel have no problem with Johnston's return.... What about the other half!? He'll never return. For any new manager bringing him back in would be high risk with limited potential return.
Keating would be welcomed back with open arms given our lack of physicality in the inside forward line. I suppose Givney is a decent squad option. As for Tierney, another man who has become an All Star since he left the squad. Was half decent at U21 level, added very little in his time on the Senior Panel.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on July 07, 2015, 10:23:18 PM
myra Hindley. You do realise when a manager gives an interview what he says is for the benefit of the players in his dressing room and not for the gobshites like your good self. I also have a good laugh about Tierney. He got loads of games last year in the league and did damn all and if he went off in a sulk then says more about him. Johnston is finished, could make kildares team and they gave no forward. Keating is ok but would want to engage his brain the odd time, likewise givney. Best players are on the panel. Id leave hyland where he is or maybe peter Reilly if terry wants to go.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Myra mains on July 08, 2015, 06:18:23 AM
Quote from: Itchy on July 07, 2015, 10:23:18 PM
myra Hindley. You do realise when a manager gives an interview what he says is for the benefit of the players in his dressing room and not for the gobshites like your good self. I also have a good laugh about Tierney. He got loads of games last year in the league and did damn all and if he went off in a sulk then says more about him. Johnston is finished, could make kildares team and they gave no forward. Keating is ok but would want to engage his brain the odd time, likewise givney. Best players are on the panel. Id leave hyland where he is or maybe peter Reilly if terry wants to go.
suppose your right let's stick with Dunnie R Flanagan McVitty Argue geat forwards eh? Or better still we should have more under 21s coming through next year lets wait for them or even the St Pats lads...let me tell you 1 thing  an unfit Johnston Keating Giveny in the full forward line  would be 100% better than anything we have tried this year. It's remarkable that Johnston has become such a poor player since he left Cavan despite being the best forward in the Cavan senior championship last year and proving this by his scores from play. I'd love to see Johnston back even if it just winds up PPL like you and other posters on here. Least it will give you something to talk and complain about deflect away from the real playing issues . Hylands claim to fame as a Senior championship manager will be getting us to an All Ireland Quarter and who am I to disrespect that feat. His major success of the 2015 championship is beating London . Now that's no mean feat either.He will be judged as a Senior manager on his results just like he was as an u21 manager.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on July 08, 2015, 10:19:49 AM
Anyone know if there's a block/ignore function on here?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: beer baron on July 08, 2015, 11:11:41 AM
Very disappointing performance Saturday. Few points in particular which really got me.

Fear of shooting from distance:
Our game in general is about setting up solid defensively and  then trying to work an opening for a simple score but in the second half when Roscommon were sitting back and soaking up all the pressure we surely should've had more men willing and able to score from 45 yards. Gearoid,Martin Reilly and Dj are 3 all well able but each turned down numerous opportunites to go for a point and then we'd lose the ball and concede on the break.

Mc Hale impact/lack of:
This man i've heard mentioned as the next manager,i for one hope it's not the case, he was apparently brought in to bring in more creativity to the side and he has failed woefully if that is the case.
Despite what Roscommon scored the other day i still think we're defensively strong and other than their early goal we dealt reasonably well with their forwards up until the sending off and seemed to get a few soft frees given against us,Fergal Flanagan conceded one in particular that i found a baffling decision from the ref. It's our lack of forwards/forward play that cost us,Argue's a good player but FF's not the position for him unless they give him a proper run there before next years Championship and he develops but this carry on this year was asking too much off him.

Subsitutions:

Mackey's a very good footballer but he shouldn't have started the game the other day or if he did should've been taken off as he clearly didn't have enough in him for 70 minutes of football at this level.  Damien Reilly had a poor game for a man that's usually very consistent and didn't look to have his usual determination and aggression in the tackle,he had his arm heavily strapped and perhaps he again should have been taken off a lot earlier and Michael Argue was having no luck in side at all so why wasn't he either given a decent run out the field or taken off and Gearoid put in? He was taken off with about 2 minutes to go and Gearoid was put inside,what was Gearoid expected to do score a few goals in no time whatsoever?



Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on July 08, 2015, 11:46:22 AM
Quote from: Myra mains on July 08, 2015, 06:18:23 AM
Quote from: Itchy on July 07, 2015, 10:23:18 PM
myra Hindley. You do realise when a manager gives an interview what he says is for the benefit of the players in his dressing room and not for the gobshites like your good self. I also have a good laugh about Tierney. He got loads of games last year in the league and did damn all and if he went off in a sulk then says more about him. Johnston is finished, could make kildares team and they gave no forward. Keating is ok but would want to engage his brain the odd time, likewise givney. Best players are on the panel. Id leave hyland where he is or maybe peter Reilly if terry wants to go.
suppose your right let's stick with Dunnie R Flanagan McVitty Argue geat forwards eh? Or better still we should have more under 21s coming through next year lets wait for them or even the St Pats lads...let me tell you 1 thing  an unfit Johnston Keating Giveny in the full forward line  would be 100% better than anything we have tried this year. It's remarkable that Johnston has become such a poor player since he left Cavan despite being the best forward in the Cavan senior championship last year and proving this by his scores from play. I'd love to see Johnston back even if it just winds up PPL like you and other posters on here. Least it will give you something to talk and complain about deflect away from the real playing issues . Hylands claim to fame as a Senior championship manager will be getting us to an All Ireland Quarter and who am I to disrespect that feat. His major success of the 2015 championship is beating London . Now that's no mean feat either.He will be judged as a Senior manager on his results just like he was as an u21 manager.

I don't suppose you are Cavan Gaels club member by any chance Myra? No one I think has a problem with Keating, Givney or Tierney coming back and I agree they would be an addition. Flanagan didn't play corner forward against Roscommon, he floated around on the 40 but I am sure you noticed that. Niall McDermott was the player you didn't seem to notice that has been playing in the FF line. As I've said already the Argue experiment at FF did not work but at least it was tried, if it wasnt tried you and your ilk would be moaning about that too. I find it hilarious that for years so many Cavan Gaels players wouldnt commit for the county and some that did brought a stinking attitude with them. Now they and their families/fans clubs are on whinging that they are not involved.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on July 08, 2015, 03:26:55 PM
Turloc Mooney fully fit would be a addition in the half forward line. Tierney has good size, he didn't spark when given the chance before at Senior but would be worth another go, still 24.

Along with Keating and Givney, that would be 4 players who bring more strength to Cavan forward line.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Myra mains on July 08, 2015, 04:42:09 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on July 08, 2015, 11:46:22 AM
Quote from: Myra mains on July 08, 2015, 06:18:23 AM
Quote from: Itchy on July 07, 2015, 10:23:18 PM
myra Hindley. You do realise when a manager gives an interview what he says is for the benefit of the players in his dressing room and not for the gobshites like your good self. I also have a good laugh about Tierney. He got loads of games last year in the league and did damn all and if he went off in a sulk then says more about him. Johnston is finished, could make kildares team and they gave no forward. Keating is ok but would want to engage his brain the odd time, likewise givney. Best players are on the panel. Id leave hyland where he is or maybe peter Reilly if terry wants to go.
suppose your right let's stick with Dunnie R Flanagan McVitty Argue geat forwards eh? Or better still we should have more under 21s coming through next year lets wait for them or even the St Pats lads...let me tell you 1 thing  an unfit Johnston Keating Giveny in the full forward line  would be 100% better than anything we have tried this year. It's remarkable that Johnston has become such a poor player since he left Cavan despite being the best forward in the Cavan senior championship last year and proving this by his scores from play. I'd love to see Johnston back even if it just winds up PPL like you and other posters on here. Least it will give you something to talk and complain about deflect away from the real playing issues . Hylands claim to fame as a Senior championship manager will be getting us to an All Ireland Quarter and who am I to disrespect that feat. His major success of the 2015 championship is beating London . Now that's no mean feat either.He will be judged as a Senior manager on his results just like he was as an u21 manager.

I don't suppose you are Cavan Gaels club member by any chance Myra? No one I think has a problem with Keating, Givney or Tierney coming back and I agree they would be an addition. Flanagan didn't play corner forward against Roscommon, he floated around on the 40 but I am sure you noticed that. Niall McDermott was the player you didn't seem to notice that has been playing in the FF line. As I've said already the Argue experiment at FF did not work but at least it was tried, if it wasnt tried you and your ilk would be moaning about that too. I find it hilarious that for years so many Cavan Gaels players wouldnt commit for the county and some that did brought a stinking attitude with them. Now they and their families/fans clubs are on whinging that they are not involved.
nial mc dermott wasn't really on the pitch long enough but the time he spent on the pitch he spent it in his own half back line . No I'm not Cavan Gaels Rory to disappoint you. But I do admire 2 footed scoring forwards from whatever clubs they come from. Typical 1970s buffoon like yourself will always bring what club you are in chatting about county football team. The point I'm making is a fit Johnston is better than anything on view this year. If younger players can step up and prove we don't need him well step up . So far no forward has. None! Nial mc dermott is the only forward from 4 u21 winning teams to step up a bit. That's why I'd call Johnston back. If he's learned his lesson and grown up well he's got the ability. Nothing to do with what club he's from. Time to grow up lads . He didn't murder anyone. Get over it .
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: comeysfield on July 08, 2015, 06:05:37 PM
Myra there is a place in the world for you called the hogan stand.  You have made a point you want Johnston back  grand stop winding. We need a Half forward line that can break a tackle or play a pass. We just do not have that. No discussion at County Board meeting on Monday apparently will be discussed next Monday night so interesting to see if Hyland makes a decision in advance and how the clubs feel
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Myra mains on July 08, 2015, 09:59:11 PM
Quote from: comeysfield on July 08, 2015, 06:05:37 PM
Myra there is a place in the world for you called the hogan stand.  You have made a point you want Johnston back  grand stop winding. We need a Half forward line that can break a tackle or play a pass. We just do not have that. No discussion at County Board meeting on Monday apparently will be discussed next Monday night so interesting to see if Hyland makes a decision in advance and how the clubs feel
Comeysfield there a lot more wrong than a half forward line breaking a tackle or giving a pass. R Flanagan wasn't in the game against London yet was selected against Roscommon. McKiernan although scoring 1-6 against London works himself into blind alleys takes way too much out of the ball against better teams like Roscommon. McEnroe struggled at full back against lesser London after Rory Dunne went off yet was persisted with for the Roscommon game . Also would really love to know what instructions are given to Fergal Flanagan . There no method to anything he does. It's crash bang wallop stuff. I know he was subbed because of an early yellow against Rosscommon but he's not worth his place . Too much of a loose cannon. The Argue trick will only work in short spells and only if a player like Dunnie or McDermott is playing inside off him. Maybe switch between a 2 and 3 man full forward line as we switch the type of ball in. Mc Vitty carrying out of defense when a quicker long ball is the option . We seem to be playing to a rehearsed drill and the players are afraid to make mistakes. We need more off the cuff stuff in the forward line and let players express themselves.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on July 08, 2015, 10:30:52 PM
Who would you play at full back Myra? Also in reference to your previous post saying Seanie has learnt his lesson, I find that interesting and I've a few questions for you on it since you came on here shouting and roaring in a foul mouthed tirade.
1. You say he learnt a lesson. How'd you know he learnt his lesson, I don't recall him expressing regret or any apology to anyone.
2. If he learnt a lesson I presume then you agree he was in the wrong initially in what he did.
3. If he was in the wrong and learnt his lesson, I presume you'll agree Cavan management were right to drop him in order to learn his lesson.
4. He ain't very smart is old Seanie as the other players removed from the panel with him learned theirs lesson much quicker than him and returned to the panel
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Myra mains on July 09, 2015, 06:52:38 AM
Quote from: Itchy on July 08, 2015, 10:30:52 PM
Who would you play at full back Myra? Also in reference to your previous post saying Seanie has learnt his lesson, I find that interesting and I've a few questions for you on it since you came on here shouting and roaring in a foul mouthed tirade.
1. You say he learnt a lesson. How'd you know he learnt his lesson, I don't recall him expressing regret or any apology to anyone.
2. If he learnt a lesson I presume then you agree he was in the wrong initially in what he did.
3. If he was in the wrong and learnt his lesson, I presume you'll agree Cavan management were right to drop him in order to learn his lesson.
4. He ain't very smart is old Seanie as the other players removed from the panel with him learned theirs lesson much quicker than him and returned to the panel
Itchy read my post properly first. I said IF he has learned a lesson. Secondly the rights and wrongs of what happened is water under the bridge. My point is on last years club championship form he's better than anything on show for our Senior team in this years championship.? Now you can moan all you like about what he did and what he didn't do but the end result is the same .. He's a scoring forward something we don't have . As is Barry Reilly. Did he get s fair crack at it from the management? No he didn't. Hyland has said if a player performing at club level then he will be considered. That wasnt the case. Now I have it on good authority that Hyland will stay on next year. Watch for a few more high profile players leaving. At least 2. Come back and tell us all about the great spirit in the Camp !
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on July 09, 2015, 08:19:31 AM
How has he played for Gaels this year Myra?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on July 09, 2015, 09:27:15 AM
What is your point Myra? Johnston had ankle surgery a few months, ago.. it was known before  Christmas he had a problem with his ankle so he couldn't have been picked for the County anyway regardless.

I don't think he has played 1 game for the Gaels this year
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Myra mains on July 09, 2015, 10:14:55 AM
Quote from: tommysmith on July 09, 2015, 08:19:31 AM
How has he played for Gaels this year Myra?
who mentioned this year?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on July 09, 2015, 11:04:27 AM
Quote from: Myra mains on July 09, 2015, 10:14:55 AM
Quote from: tommysmith on July 09, 2015, 08:19:31 AM
How has he played for Gaels this year Myra?
who mentioned this year?

I did.

I would like to know how he is performing for the Gaels this year?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Myra mains on July 09, 2015, 12:02:39 PM
Quote from: tommysmith on July 09, 2015, 11:04:27 AM
Quote from: Myra mains on July 09, 2015, 10:14:55 AM
Quote from: tommysmith on July 09, 2015, 08:19:31 AM
How has he played for Gaels this year Myra?
who mentioned this year?

I did.

I would like to know how he is performing for the Gaels this year?
I'd say he's performing as well as any county player has been playing at club level this year so far considering the amount of important club games that have been played.would it matter if he was playing well? Didn't seem to matter last year anyway. Barry Reilly was playing well last year in the championship yet got f**k all game time until plan z was needed against Roscommon. Played quite well when he came on . Do u think he'll stick around for a few minutes of next years championship qualifier when Terry's up shit creek like he was against Roscommon? I hope Hyland stays for the next 20!years and buries Cavan football for once and for all. The great u21 f**king saviour. Ya have some saving to do now Terry! Hope it doesn't affect your halo! So f**king glad I'm not from Cavan. Only through marriage!!!!! Keep Terry!!!! Sure he doing a great job!! Shower of f**king Cavan wankers the lot of ya! Win a few games and the future is blue tee shirts go to print! Ye will never win f**k all and the icing on the cake would be ye having to support a team with Johnston in it.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Myra mains on July 09, 2015, 12:15:27 PM
Shower of f**king Donkeys the lot of ye . How ye have the cheek to be on a Gaa website talking about football and not a f**king footballer between yis. Ye we're giving the Monaghan and the Roscommon lads cheek and it all fell back to haunt ye. Yer once of the lowest ranked counties in the country talking the highest amount of shite. Let's face it your no good now we're no good 20 years ago were worse 20 years ago ye have 2 Ulster titles in 50 years and ye robbed Derry with the famous wide to win one of them. U.S. Have mylestheslasher and Itchy coming on here disrespecting other supporters but when they get a bit of shit back its push the "report to mod " button. Anyway back to your shit team and shit manager, I suppose he's cheap and the main Cavan bastards put a lock of business Terry's way.lads your shit and ya no ya are! Three cheers for king Terry! Bye bye!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on July 09, 2015, 12:45:59 PM
On behalf of Cavan football I would like to apologise to you for the illness it has caused you.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on July 09, 2015, 01:11:03 PM
I never reported you to the mods Myra Hindley, too much fun watching you blow up. May I ask have you tourettes?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on July 09, 2015, 01:23:57 PM
Quote from: Itchy on July 09, 2015, 01:11:03 PM
I never reported you to the mods Myra Hindley, too much fun watching you blow up. May I ask have you tourettes?

I love the way he started replying to me pretty calm and then suddenly lost the run of himself.


Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on July 09, 2015, 02:08:53 PM
Another Seanie fan on the laptop frothing at the mouth and one from another county to boot. For the record I didn't report him either but I should have.

See McHale is gettin a lot of stick for his role in this years melt down. I think it is a fair question to ask as I think he is a bit of a bluffer - move him on i think
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Myra mains on July 09, 2015, 02:28:59 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on July 09, 2015, 02:08:53 PM
Another Seanie fan on the laptop frothing at the mouth and one from another county to boot. For the record I didn't report him either but I should have.

See McHale is gettin a lot of stick for his role in this years melt down. I think it is a fair question to ask as I think he is a bit of a bluffer - move him on i think
if your not mouthing off about cardinal Brady your mouthing off about Seanie Johnston. Your just one of these mouth pieces! Now you mouthing Mchale why? Because you don't want to mouth uncle Terrance off coz he won ya a few u21 ya success starved bollix. If you really were in Ruislip you would have seen there was absolutely no connection or chat before during or after the game between Mchale and  Hyland even though it was McHale who put the players through their paces for the warm up. McHale as everyone knows is vocal with his opinions during a game but there no way he going to tell Hyland / Forde what to do. They are they original blinkers wearers! . Carr was bad . Andrews was worse now ye stuck with St Terry the patron saint of can do no wrong in Cavan football . Roll on next year till Terry gets his hands on a few more u21s with raw potential and he can know the attacking stuffing out of them. Til then enjoy the fremanaghs sligos Tipperarys Kildares armaghs of this world and dream that some day UK might be as good as them!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on July 09, 2015, 02:38:32 PM
This is brilliant please don't anyone report him.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Myra mains on July 09, 2015, 02:46:44 PM
Hylands been around there now since the Carr days he was a selector that time . He'd remind ya of Mickey Reilly from red hills no matter what manager was appointed for years Mickey was always a selector!! Hyland is going to be the same ,turn up like a bad penny! Suppose he's cheap doesn't claim expenses! And sure the young lads think he like a god until they see through him and start to drift away! Now if Terry jacked up de auld business round ballahaise might suffer so lads for de love of Jesus will ya cut the bollix a bit a slack! Fitzpatrick in the Celt must get 50% off in Ballahaise cod he always sticks up for him as does the Meath Man Brennan on the wireless. Young  Donohoe doing the interviewing doesn't know what to make of him suppose that's why he answers the question for Terry as soon as he axes him. All I can say is there a nojous rake a work to be done with them young gausons in Cavan . They are a terror to da world they way the performing nowadays. Not like in john joes time when men were men be Jesus .
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on July 09, 2015, 02:51:10 PM
Niall Lynch and Peter Reilly were the selectors under Carr, Terry Hyland was managing lavey then
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Myra mains on July 09, 2015, 03:04:10 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on July 09, 2015, 02:51:10 PM
Niall Lynch and Peter Reilly were the selectors under Carr, Terry Hyland was managing lavey then
check it out Hyland was there with Carr. How do u think he learned his management skills? Working with Carr and Andrews powerful learning curve! You can see how it stands to him today!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on July 09, 2015, 03:30:07 PM
Just to confirm. My name is not Rory, I was in Ruislip hence the match report I wrote, Terry Hyland is not my Uncle and yes I don't think like people who protect Paedophiles.

Myra you really read as a seriously imbalanced individual. I don't believe your story about not being from Cavan and living in Kildare etc etc - Load of bull. You get to wound up for that to be true. I look forward to your next tirade though, been ages since we had this much craic on here.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Myra mains on July 09, 2015, 03:56:00 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on July 09, 2015, 03:30:07 PM
Just to confirm. My name is not Rory, I was in Ruislip hence the match report I wrote, Terry Hyland is not my Uncle and yes I don't think like people who protect Paedophiles.

Myra you really read as a seriously imbalanced individual. I don't believe your story about not being from Cavan and living in Kildare etc etc - Load of bull. You get to wound up for that to be true. I look forward to your next tirade though, been ages since we had this much craic on here.
normally its you running the board with all the other donkeys agreeing with you. Did I not speak to u in Ruislip ? From killedhandra going back the sat night? 2 Cavan jerseys you and your mate just behind the Cavan dugout? My apologies if it's a case of mistaken identity
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on July 09, 2015, 04:05:35 PM
Quote from: Myra mains on July 09, 2015, 03:56:00 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on July 09, 2015, 03:30:07 PM
Just to confirm. My name is not Rory, I was in Ruislip hence the match report I wrote, Terry Hyland is not my Uncle and yes I don't think like people who protect Paedophiles.

Myra you really read as a seriously imbalanced individual. I don't believe your story about not being from Cavan and living in Kildare etc etc - Load of bull. You get to wound up for that to be true. I look forward to your next tirade though, been ages since we had this much craic on here.
normally its you running the board with all the other donkeys agreeing with you. Did I not speak to u in Ruislip ? From killedhandra going back the sat night? 2 Cavan jerseys you and your mate just behind the Cavan dugout? My apologies if it's a case of mistaken identity

Myra - I am totally confused now. A minute ago you said "If you really were in Ruislip" implying you didn't believe I was there and now you think you were talking to me in Ruislip. Please explain.

It certainly was a case of mistaken identity as I wasn't talking to you that's for sure!

There is no problem with discussion on this board but you should remember I wrote my opinion on not allowing Johnston back on the panel and you came in with an aggressive attack - i.e. it was you that was shutting down conversation, not me. You could have made your point and we could have agreed to disagree but that's not what you did.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Myra mains on July 09, 2015, 04:23:37 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on July 09, 2015, 04:05:35 PM
Quote from: Myra mains on July 09, 2015, 03:56:00 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on July 09, 2015, 03:30:07 PM
Just to confirm. My name is not Rory, I was in Ruislip hence the match report I wrote, Terry Hyland is not my Uncle and yes I don't think like people who protect Paedophiles.

Myra you really read as a seriously imbalanced individual. I don't believe your story about not being from Cavan and living in Kildare etc etc - Load of bull. You get to wound up for that to be true. I look forward to your next tirade though, been ages since we had this much craic on here.
normally its you running the board with all the other donkeys agreeing with you. Did I not speak to u in Ruislip ? From killedhandra going back the sat night? 2 Cavan jerseys you and your mate just behind the Cavan dugout? My apologies if it's a case of mistaken identity

Myra - I am totally confused now. A minute ago you said "If you really were in Ruislip" implying you didn't believe I was there and now you think you were talking to me in Ruislip. Please explain.

It certainly was a case of mistaken identity as I wasn't talking to you that's for sure!

There is no problem with discussion on this board but you should remember I wrote my opinion on not allowing Johnston back on the panel and you came in with an aggressive attack - i.e. it was you that was shutting down conversation, not me. You could have made your point and we could have agreed to disagree but that's not what you did.
so it wasn't you and your mate behind the Cavan dugout. My apologies
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on July 09, 2015, 04:34:18 PM
Apology accepted

Time to move on I think.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: beer baron on July 09, 2015, 04:59:22 PM
Myra by any chance  are you that lad that made the bring back Seanie page on Facebok? Sounding an awful lot like him  ;)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on July 09, 2015, 05:08:21 PM
Quote from: beer baron on July 09, 2015, 04:59:22 PM
Myra by any chance  are you that lad that made the bring back Seanie page on Facebok? Sounding an awful lot like him  ;)

That Tynan lad another head case.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Myra mains on July 09, 2015, 05:21:00 PM
Quote from: tommysmith on July 09, 2015, 05:08:21 PM
Quote from: beer baron on July 09, 2015, 04:59:22 PM
Myra by any chance  are you that lad that made the bring back Seanie page on Facebok? Sounding an awful lot like him  ;)

That Tynan lad another head case.
no but I think il start a "don't leave St Terry"page just to show my appreciation for what he's done😜thanks to him we went global winning the World Series in New York! Add 2 live games on our National TV channel has put us and Terry up as the most recognised team on nation TV that can't win a televised game.. Eg down Kildare Monaghan Roscommon and that's just this year.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Myra mains on July 09, 2015, 05:35:20 PM
If Terry goes and I sincerely hope not, the arse will completely fall out of Cavan Senior county team. Gone will be the global interviews and sponsorship that were so prominent and important this year. It will be a complete PRO disaster with b&bs and hotels forced to close due to lack of involvement of the Senior team in important pitch openings. Cavans record in pitch openings is outstanding. I know Cavan haven't won a championship game in Ireland in exactly 2 years now but let's not get too dispondant .the Saviour is still here! Cavan can go back stateside next year with their head held high and their leader leading from the front and go and defend that World Series and but back to back Series together! That now should be the aim. 2 in a row World Series !!but it's going to take a supreme effort all around to nail that series again.. Chin up lads!!! The future is and always be blueeeee!!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on July 09, 2015, 06:32:24 PM
Oh I love games of guess who, I was great at it as a kid. Let's see Myra Hindley is very very bitter. Can't decide if the like or hate Cavan. Has made reference to the fact that we are all crap footballers on here so implying that he is a good footballer, perhaps county standard. Claims not to be from Cavan yet travels to Ruislip to watch Cavan, no doubt is from Cavan. Also claims to be from Kildare, why Kildare I wonder. Could have pretended to be from anywhere and even named a club St Kevin's to boot so has some small knowledge of Kildare. Someone who is on the net all hours so either unemployed, a student or maybe a teacher. Someone who hates the sports editor of the Celt.

Welcome to Gaaboard Seanie, great to have you onboard. How's the leg?

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Old yeller on July 09, 2015, 07:50:44 PM
Quote from: Myra mains on July 09, 2015, 05:35:20 PM
If Terry goes and I sincerely hope not, the arse will completely fall out of Cavan Senior county team. Gone will be the global interviews and sponsorship that were so prominent and important this year. It will be a complete PRO disaster with b&bs and hotels forced to close due to lack of involvement of the Senior team in important pitch openings. Cavans record in pitch openings is outstanding. I know Cavan haven't won a championship game in Ireland in exactly 2 years now but let's not get too dispondant .the Saviour is still here! Cavan can go back stateside next year with their head held high and their leader leading from the front and go and defend that World Series and but back to back Series together! That now should be the aim. 2 in a row World Series !!but it's going to take a supreme effort all around to nail that series again.. Chin up lads!!! The future is and always be blueeeee!!
We won in the championship last year against Westmeath,
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Myra mains on July 09, 2015, 07:51:43 PM
Quote from: Itchy on July 09, 2015, 06:32:24 PM
Oh I love games of guess who, I was great at it as a kid. Let's see Myra Hindley is very very bitter. Can't decide if the like or hate Cavan. Has made reference to the fact that we are all crap footballers on here so implying that he is a good footballer, perhaps county standard. Claims not to be from Cavan yet travels to Ruislip to watch Cavan, no doubt is from Cavan. Also claims to be from Kildare, why Kildare I wonder. Could have pretended to be from anywhere and even named a club St Kevin's to boot so has some small knowledge of Kildare. Someone who is on the net all hours so either unemployed, a student or maybe a teacher. Someone who hates the sports editor of the Celt.

Welcome to Gaaboard Seanie, great to have you onboard. How's the leg?
would mylestheslasher and Itchy be the same person? Il have 50 on that one!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Myra mains on July 09, 2015, 08:18:50 PM
Quote from: beer baron on July 09, 2015, 04:59:22 PM
Myra by any chance  are you that lad that made the bring back Seanie page on Facebok? Sounding an awful lot like him  ;)
funny thing about it is I do personnely know him and he's never opened his mouth about the rights and wrongs of it , I will actually play golf in the Gaels golf classic tomorrow and no doubt he will be in the frame. His sister Louise has raised so much money for charity it's unbelievable but ther still so many narrow minded c***ts waiting to knock him. I think proper ppl like Rodney trotter will understand what I'm saying. Look ta f**king donkeys and I'd need to call his donkeys to get your attention. If seanie adds to the procedure well let him at it. Wind the neck in . He will. He has. I really thought Cavan ppl were better than that.. And that includes u myles or Itchy😜
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on July 09, 2015, 09:07:01 PM
What word is c***ts? I know a word that it could be but that only has 4 letters...

This is some meltdown.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: redzone on July 09, 2015, 09:13:38 PM
Sad how a new poster comes on and you'd Cavan lads don't like what he has to say so yous all gang up on him. Fair play Myra for telling it how it is
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on July 09, 2015, 09:23:26 PM
Quote from: redzone on July 09, 2015, 09:13:38 PM
Sad how a new poster comes on and you'd Cavan lads don't like what he has to say so yous all gang up on him. Fair play Myra for telling it how it is

He has so much stuff wrong that it isn't even funny t
hat people actually can be so far disconnected from reality and believe they are correct.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on July 09, 2015, 09:57:07 PM
Quote from: Myra mains on July 09, 2015, 07:51:43 PM
Quote from: Itchy on July 09, 2015, 06:32:24 PM
Oh I love games of guess who, I was great at it as a kid. Let's see Myra Hindley is very very bitter. Can't decide if the like or hate Cavan. Has made reference to the fact that we are all crap footballers on here so implying that he is a good footballer, perhaps county standard. Claims not to be from Cavan yet travels to Ruislip to watch Cavan, no doubt is from Cavan. Also claims to be from Kildare, why Kildare I wonder. Could have pretended to be from anywhere and even named a club St Kevin's to boot so has some small knowledge of Kildare. Someone who is on the net all hours so either unemployed, a student or maybe a teacher. Someone who hates the sports editor of the Celt.

Welcome to Gaaboard Seanie, great to have you onboard. How's the leg?
would mylestheslasher and Itchy be the same person? Il have 50 on that one!
Seanie, why are you bringing your sister into this conversation? I'm the fella that was in a pub in  with a Cavan jersey on when Cavan were in Ruislip. Do you know me? I've no sister but my aunt ran a 5k for charity so I'm 100% dead on. When you are at the Gaels golf tournament will you check is it run the same way as they run raffles?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on July 09, 2015, 10:42:18 PM
Jaysus lads, this is horrid entertaining stuff  ;D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on July 10, 2015, 04:04:14 AM
I'm glad I didn't find the ignore button.  This is like to watching Kevin keegan unravel live on sky,  except he keeps coming back to do it over and over. Surely he's the only kildare man so passionate about Cavan that he travelled to Ruislip and has intimate ties with the gaels too,  as well as an embittered historical knowledge of the management teams.

I applaud the top notch quality of your utter lack of quality sir,  I'm in stitches reading this.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on July 10, 2015, 10:11:06 AM
I see the Derry minors are 4/7 to beat Cavan in the minor final with us 7/4. I thought the bookies would have it a bit tighter than that. Don't know much about the Derry team but they are back boned by the Watty Grahams club which has had phenomenal success in Ulster club tournaments over the past years. It would be great to get another minor title as for all the U21 success the minor has been pretty slow in following.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Blue in hope on July 10, 2015, 10:14:08 AM
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Quote from: Myra mains on July 09, 2015, 07:51:43 PM
Quote from: Itchy on July 09, 2015, 06:32:24 PM
Oh I love games of guess who, I was great at it as a kid. Let's see Myra Hindley is very very bitter. Can't decide if the like or hate Cavan. Has made reference to the fact that we are all crap footballers on here so implying that he is a good footballer, perhaps county standard. Claims not to be from Cavan yet travels to Ruislip to watch Cavan, no doubt is from Cavan. Also claims to be from Kildare, why Kildare I wonder. Could have pretended to be from anywhere and even named a club St Kevin's to boot so has some small knowledge of Kildare. Someone who is on the net all hours so either unemployed, a student or maybe a teacher. Someone who hates the sports editor of the Celt.

Welcome to Gaaboard Seanie, great to have you onboard. How's the leg?
would mylestheslasher and Itchy be the same person? Il have 50 on that one!
Seanie, why are you bringing your sister into this conversation? I'm the fella that was in a pub in  with a Cavan jersey on when Cavan were in Ruislip. Do you know me? I've no sister but my aunt ran a 5k for charity so I'm 100% dead on. When you are at the Gaels golf tournament will you check is it run the same way as they run raffles?

It must be a cavan thing. Gaels Raffles and Laveys Lotto!!!. Its strange people only bash the Gaels and not others clubs who person does wrong!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Myra mains on July 10, 2015, 10:35:35 AM
Quote from: redzone on July 09, 2015, 09:13:38 PM
Sad how a new poster comes on and you'd Cavan lads don't like what he has to say so yous all gang up on him. Fair play Myra for telling it how it is
Redzone what you need to know about the Cavan board is Mylestheslasher is the boss and all the other lads must agree with what he says hence no real discussion .Itchy was the last New member but if you study the content of his posts and the timing you will find that him and Mylestheslasher are really the same person. It's just an extra back up in case Myles get in over his head in arguments like he usually does with seasoned posters.Itchy will appear with his five eights or sometimes vica versa depending on the topic. Anyone new who joins here is told to go back to hogan stand website , you know that shite website none of them can take their eyes off. Well I'm here now to ruffle a few feathers as a non Cavan man . The page has never been as busy with all the donkeys coming to have their say.! Even a couple of days before the Monaghan game wasn't as busy as the last 2 days. When you mention Seanie Johnston here you will always grasp a reaction from the Ds.i just want to see him back and to kick a few winning scored just to see  the reaction of the Donkeys here! Now Redzone if you intent posting here u should PM mylestheslasher tell him your not a fan of Seanie and you hate hoganstand posters and you agree with all his posts even the ones about cardinal Brady!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Myra mains on July 10, 2015, 10:39:17 AM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on July 10, 2015, 10:11:06 AM
I see the Derry minors are 4/7 to beat Cavan in the minor final with us 7/4. I thought the bookies would have it a bit tighter than that. Don't know much about the Derry team but they are back boned by the Watty Grahams club which has had phenomenal success in Ulster club tournaments over the past years. It would be great to get another minor title as for all the U21 success the minor has been pretty slow in following.
it's probably based on the fact that they beat Donegal who were 2nd favourites for the All Ireland and the fact that they have Conor Glass playing for them who is probably recognised as the best minor player in Ulster if not Ireland.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on July 10, 2015, 11:07:17 AM
Its been said before Myra and it ain't true just like I wasn't talking to you at a match just like I told another poster before (who I wouldn't be surprised is a previous incarnation of you), just like you pretending to not be from Cavan. Not true. 

In fact if you study this latest bunch of posts you will see it started with a fairly simple statement from me that I didn't want Seanie back on the panel. There was no abuse, nothing stronger than that. You then came on with the abuse (your first post was deleted by mods) and drew this conversation out. That is a fact that anyone with two eyes can see for themselves is it not. Now I am not commenting on this rubbish again so do me a favour and direct your nonsense elsewhere.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Myra mains on July 10, 2015, 11:30:38 AM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on July 10, 2015, 11:07:17 AM
Its been said before Myra and it ain't true just like I wasn't talking to you at a match just like I told another poster before (who I wouldn't be surprised is a previous incarnation of you), just like you pretending to not be from Cavan. Not true. 

In fact if you study this latest bunch of posts you will see it started with a fairly simple statement from me that I didn't want Seanie back on the panel. There was no abuse, nothing stronger than that. You then came on with the abuse (your first post was deleted by mods) and drew this conversation out. That is a fact that anyone with two eyes can see for themselves is it not. Now I am not commenting on this rubbish again so do me a favour and direct your nonsense elsewhere.
i will see Seanie sometime today at the Cavan Gaels golf classic and for the craic il mention this and hoganstand website just to see if he even reads them.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on July 10, 2015, 04:48:11 PM
Seanie if you are walking around the golf course talking to yourself the men in white coats might come for you and I'm not talking about the unpires
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on July 12, 2015, 11:37:04 AM
Even if he came back, how would he be played?  The ball never  seemed to be released quickly and Johnson would need quick ball (can he win his own ball?).  Our default position seems  to be to pass the ball laterally until we lull  the opposition into a mistake.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on July 12, 2015, 11:46:31 AM
He hasn't played 1 game for the Gaels this year. I don't know why this is being discussed.

Too long out of County football at his age to be recalled even if he was playing.


Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on July 12, 2015, 02:41:41 PM
One thing I couldn't understand this year is why Bud Fitz and enda Reilly who were on the panel got so little opportunity. I think bud got 15 mins against Galway and Enda made some appearance against London.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4sam on July 13, 2015, 01:00:20 AM
Bud also played against Westmeath in the league at home and got our only goal. Played pretty well that night actually but never featured after that.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on July 13, 2015, 01:56:47 PM
Bud started against Meath final round of the league. He was poor that day
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: scoopmine on July 13, 2015, 02:42:38 PM
Staying in Div 2 was a big positive and something we can build on. I do feel its time for Terry to move on he has been involved I think in total 6 years. The progress we have made from Tommy Carr and Andrews is huge. I remember leaving Beffni hurting after Longford hammered us in the qualifiers we are a million years from that attitude. I would not like to see Seanie back I don't believe he would add anything. He has not played any football this year and not played any county football in years. Best of luck to him in the club scene. Hopefully there will be a return of Keating, Givney and Tierney along with a fully fit Killian Clark. Names being mentioned like Horan I don't believe are realistic. Tony Mcentee is interesting but he has never managed at county level. Is Peter Reilly the man to step up?   
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on July 17, 2015, 07:17:13 PM
The golf mustn't have went too well.

I think Cavan minors are up against it on Sunday. They bet two crap teams, Derry beat much better. Hopefully the gausons can shock the Derry lads on the day
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on July 22, 2015, 03:16:45 PM
Any word on Hyland staying  on or not?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4sam on July 28, 2015, 09:54:28 AM
Has anyone got a full list of fixtures for the championship this weekend?

Cavan Minors play their All Ireland Quarter Final v Kildare in Navan at 6:30 on Saturday
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: comeysfield on July 28, 2015, 01:56:12 PM
31-07-2015 (Fri)
Cully's Craft Bakery Cully's Craft Bakery Junior Championship 2015 Group A
Rd 1
P.J Duke Park   19:45   Kill       V      Munterconnaught
   
Hotel Kilmore Intermediate Championship 2015
Rd 1
Kingspan Breffni Pk   20:00   Arva       V      Shercock    

02-08-2015 (Sun)
Cully's Craft Bakery Cully's Craft Bakery Junior Championship 2015 Group A
Rd 1
Kingspan Breffni Pk   13:00   Maghera       V      Corlough
   
Hotel Kilmore Senior Championship 2015
Rd 1
Kingspan Breffni Pk   14:30   Killeshandra       V      Castlerahan
   
Hotel Kilmore Intermediate Championship 2015
Rd 1
Kingspan Breffni Pk   18:00   Redhills       V      Drung
   
Cully's Craft Bakery Cully's Craft Bakery Junior Championship 2015 Group B
Rd 1
Ballyconnell   18:00   Ballymachugh       V      Shannon Gaels
   
Hotel Kilmore Senior Championship 2015
Rd 1
Kingspan Breffni Pk   19:30   Mullahoran       V      Drumalee    
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: comeysfield on July 28, 2015, 01:58:58 PM
06-08-2015 (Thurs)
Hotel Kilmore Intermediate Championship 2015
Rd 1
Kingspan Breffni Pk   20:00   Bailieborough       V      Killinkere    

07-08-2015 (Fri)
Hotel Kilmore Intermediate Championship 2015
Rd 1
St. Aidan's Park   20:00   Butlersbridge       V      Drumlane
   
Hotel Kilmore Senior Championship 2015
Rd 1
Kingspan Breffni Pk   20:00   Killygarry       V      Crosserlough    

08-08-2015 (Sat)
Cully's Craft Bakery Junior Championship 2015 Group C
Rd 1
P.J Duke Park   18:00   Knockbride       V      Kildallon
   
Hotel Kilmore Senior Championship 2015
Rd 1
Dolan Park   18:00   Cavan Gaels       V      Cuchulainns    
Our Lady of Lourdes Park   19:30   Lacken       V      Gowna    

Cully's Craft Bakery Junior Championship 2015 Group A
Rd 2
   18:00   Corlough       V      Kill    

09-08-2015 (Sun)
Hotel Kilmore Intermediate Championship 2015
Rd 1
Kingspan Breffni Pk   13:00   Swanlinbar       V      Ballyhaise
   
Hotel Kilmore Senior Championship 2015
Rd 1
Kingspan Breffni Pk   14:30   Denn       V      Ballinagh
   
Cully's Craft Bakery Junior Championship 2015 Group B
Rd 1
Packie Devlin Park   17:00   Templeport       V      Cornafean    
Hotel Kilmore Senior Championship 2015
Rd 1
Kingspan Breffni Pk   18:00   Cootehill       V      Lavey
   
Cully's Craft Bakery Junior Championship 2015 Group A
Rd 2
Lavey GAA   14:00   Maghera       V      Munterconnaught
   
Hotel Kilmore Senior Championship 2015
Prelim Rd B
Kingspan Breffni Pk   19:30   Kingscourt       V      Drumgoon    
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on July 29, 2015, 01:38:13 AM
http://m.bbc.com/sport/northern-ireland/33687135?utm_source=twitterfeed&#38;utm_medium=twitter

Hyland staying on it seems.  Not good news in my opinion,  think he has run out of ideas so unless he has big changes planned I think it'll be more of the same next year.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on July 29, 2015, 08:51:37 AM
Quote from: cavanmaniac on July 29, 2015, 01:38:13 AM
http://m.bbc.com/sport/northern-ireland/33687135?utm_source=twitterfeed&#38;utm_medium=twitter

Hyland staying on it seems.  Not good news in my opinion,  think he has run out of ideas so unless he has big changes planned I think it'll be more of the same next year.

I probably agree with you but on the other hand there could be worse scenarios when I see some of the names people are putting on there. If Terry does one more year and say Peter Reilly takes over the following year then Id be happy enough with that.

I think Terry needs to freshen things up a little. Could he possibly get Peter Reilly in as a selector to learn the ropes. Could he get someone else him that could work on an improved attacking strategy. At the end of the day the manager is about having a strategy and putting  the correct people in place around you to deliver it.

Finally we need to get the lads that opted out last year back in the panel - Givney & Keating especially. I dont know if there is a problem between them and management or not but for the good of Cavan football they should try and resolve it. Those two players also need to realise they are far from perfect themselves.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Blue in hope on July 29, 2015, 09:50:33 AM
Unfortunately I cant see any of the players who opted out last year coming back. From what I have been told they will e joined by a couple more next year.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on July 29, 2015, 02:32:59 PM
Have you spoken to the players? Means very little unless you have.

Every County loses players. Donegal lost Brick Molloy Leo McLoone Michael Boyle this year, McLoone is back on the panel now. If players can't commit there is not much the manager can do
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Blue in hope on July 29, 2015, 03:10:05 PM
I  actually have spoken to players and some family members over the last few days and they were nor to happy.One player told me he was going to take the year out and travel and be ready to commit under new management the following year 
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on July 29, 2015, 06:02:54 PM
The talk of players leaving the panel because Hyland is still there just stinks of arrogance to me.. Of course it's their lives and their amateurs so they can do as they please.. but do they really think management is holding them back? Do they think that a going into the last game of Division 2 with a chance of promotion and losing out by a point to the eventual Ulster Champions is underachieving?

As each year goes by I become more convinced that the Cavan management position is one of the most poisoned chalices out there.. There is a complete lack of any realism from a lot of supporters. And it even seems to have seeped through to a few players.

And at the risk of repeating myself.. If Keating and Givney and Tierney are staying away because of Hyland, they need a serious reality check.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on July 29, 2015, 09:33:48 PM
Quote from: Westside on July 29, 2015, 06:02:54 PM
The talk of players leaving the panel because Hyland is still there just stinks of arrogance to me.. Of course it's their lives and their amateurs so they can do as they please.. but do they really think management is holding them back? Do they think that a going into the last game of Division 2 with a chance of promotion and losing out by a point to the eventual Ulster Champions is underachieving?

As each year goes by I become more convinced that the Cavan management position is one of the most poisoned chalices out there.. There is a complete lack of any realism from a lot of supporters. And it even seems to have seeped through to a few players.

And at the risk of repeating myself.. If Keating and Givney and Tierney are staying away because of Hyland, they need a serious reality check.

Here's the thing. I've gone to a lot of games this year and mingled and chatted with the odd lad. The people at the games might be disappointed but I've not heard anyone going on in a ridiculous unrealistic way about the team. What we do have is a bunch of dickheads on forums like hoganstand who quite clearly have a problem with Terry Hyland. Maybe he didn't pick them or one of their buddies or whatever but its clear there is a concerted campaign of attack on Terry. Every defeat is met with reams of criticism like Cavan should never lose a game, which is crazy - not even Dublin or Kerry supporters think that. Win a match and you hear nothing. For whatever reason Terry gets this abuse and it is totally unfair on a man who is 100% Cavan through and through. What will these people think when Terrys replacement picks the same panel I wonder.

Keating and Givney need to man up, suck it up and get back to playing ball and if they want to be pandered to well then they should feck off somewhere else - those days are over in Cavan thankfully. I wish Terry the best next year and hopefully it will be a better year.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: whats my name on July 30, 2015, 07:04:17 AM
David givney didn't quit playing with cavan he had a serious ankle ligament injury  last September/October which required surgery and alot of rehabilitation he's only recently back playing with ballymun I think his first game back was last week he said at the start of the year that he wanted a break from football because of the injury it's amazing how stories gather legs in the county he hasn't a problem with terry or cavan at all😂😂
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on July 30, 2015, 12:10:54 PM
Myles completely agree. I was down in Galway and Portlaoise and never heard anything close to the criticism that we see online. Some guy on Hoganstand claims Terry has set us back 10 years.. The mind boggles.

That's good to hear what's my name.. I suppose those of us sick of hearing people using Givney and Keatings absences as a stick to beat management with turn it back on the lads which isn't fair either.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: five points on July 31, 2015, 10:00:18 AM
Intercounty players are amateurs, not indentured slaves. They volunteer to play for their county. If certain players opt out for whatever reason, their wishes should be respected and they shouldn't be blackmailed into returning against their will.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on July 31, 2015, 10:24:41 AM
Quote from: five points on July 31, 2015, 10:00:18 AM
Intercounty players are amateurs, not indentured slaves. They volunteer to play for their county. If certain players opt out for whatever reason, their wishes should be respected and they shouldn't be blackmailed into returning against their will.

Blackmailed? I agree with you on guys being amateur and having freedom to opt out but how can anyone be blackmailed?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: five points on July 31, 2015, 03:36:52 PM
By being told that they "need to man up" etc by returning to play with the county team.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on July 31, 2015, 03:48:56 PM
Quote from: five points on July 31, 2015, 03:36:52 PM
By being told that they "need to man up" etc by returning to play with the county team.

Hardly blackmail!

If a fella is sulking and wont play because of whatever relationship he has with the manager or he is waiting on a new manager well in my opinion he should man up - team is bigger than one player. If he is not playing due to injury, unable to commit or just doesn't have the interest then fine.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mrdeeds on July 31, 2015, 04:07:14 PM
Never mind discussing Terry and players. Time for championship to take centre stage. What's peoples predictions.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on August 01, 2015, 01:09:26 PM
Quote from: Blue in hope on July 29, 2015, 03:10:05 PM
I  actually have spoken to players and some family members over the last few days and they were nor to happy.One player told me he was going to take the year out and travel and be ready to commit under new management the following year

You obviously haven't spoken to Givney since he was injured. And how would a player going travelling expect to be in a new manager plans the following year -
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on August 01, 2015, 06:10:51 PM
It's a bit like the few lads on hoganstand cancelling there club breffni over Hyland staying lol
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on August 04, 2015, 10:14:47 AM
Big shock seeing Killeshandra thump Castlerahan in the senior championship. Anyone get to see it?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4sam on August 04, 2015, 02:19:30 PM
Yea, I was there alright (unfortunately  :P) Killeshandra were fully deserving of their victory. They were the best team by a long way. First to every ball and a lot sharper than Castlerahan. I'm hoping that Castlerahan wouldn't play as bad in this years championship or they will be looking at an early exit again.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on August 04, 2015, 02:55:13 PM
Hard luck to the Minors on Saturday.  Only saw the 2nd half on GAA2015 but they were unlucky not to snatch it at the end.  Look forward to see how they progress at U21 level.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: comeysfield on August 10, 2015, 02:53:56 PM
Was a at a good few games over the last few days and other than Lavey and Cootehil the standard was dire / tough stuff, especially Drumgoon and Kingscourt. On the looking for a forward Brendan Argue had a couple of flashes for Bailieborough but was well marshaled.  Then Ray Cullivan really looked like a footballer with the Jordans and Tierney doing well  for Lavey (poor Tierney and Joey Jordan  got a stupid forward's black card), while McCutcheon and Hessin pulled Cootehill out of the fire. Then Smith for Ballyhaise was excellent but no idea how Greg McGovern stayed on him young Brady looked good as well. Gearoid looked injured or pissed off or something. Chris Curran is some player and I wonder has he ever played with a county team the most talented man on the field and nearly dragged Swad back to life 
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on August 10, 2015, 05:22:22 PM
Chris Curran is a soccer player. Would have been involved with the county underage but was with Man United youth for a good few years. Injuries meant he had to move home but still plays Division 1 up north now I think. Younger brother Ruari was on the Gerry Reilly team this year but don't think he's as fast as Chris.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mrdeeds on August 11, 2015, 09:39:36 AM
That Stephen Smith from Ballyhaise seems a good footballer. Physical presence too. Did he ever get a chance near a county panel?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on August 14, 2015, 03:06:33 PM
Quote from: mrdeeds on August 11, 2015, 09:39:36 AM
That Stephen Smith from Ballyhaise seems a good footballer. Physical presence too. Did he ever get a chance near a county panel?

He was on the county under 21 panel in 2002/2003,but he was in college in Wales for 4 years after that. He is a serious player for us.
Have to give plaudits to Chris Curran as well, he was brilliant for Swad,He nearly single-handidly took the fight to us last Sunday, class player. Is he still playing Irish League Football? Terry should do everything he can to get him on the county panel for 2016.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on August 15, 2015, 04:44:52 PM
Yeah he still plays in the Irish  League, plays with Cliftonville.

JP Kelly of Drumlane another good footballer, who would be worth a look with the County set up next year.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on August 16, 2015, 12:49:41 AM
See the U16s took two heavy beatings from Kildare and Cork today in some sort of blitz. We should be very careful about raising expectations because of Gerry Reilly tournament wins.

JP Kelly is a half decent intermediate player albeit one with lots of heart and determination.. A long way off county standard IMO.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on August 16, 2015, 08:49:26 AM
Quote from: Westside on August 16, 2015, 12:49:41 AM
See the U16s took two heavy beatings from Kildare and Cork today in some sort of blitz. We should be very careful about raising expectations because of Gerry Reilly tournament wins.

JP Kelly is a half decent intermediate player albeit one with lots of heart and determination.. A long way off county standard IMO.

I was following on Twitter but updates stopped 15 minutes into 2nd half with Cavan winning by 2 against cork. That said the Twitter account had cork 6 up at half time and then 3 up at the start of the 2nd half so I assume Cavan scored a goal at half time. Anyone think Cavan Twitter quality has dropped lately since pro was changed? I see mistakes in scores all the time now
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on August 16, 2015, 09:29:33 AM
U16's were missing players,.

kelly is a aolid footballer and has been for a few years,  worth  a trial.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: beer baron on August 16, 2015, 10:13:33 AM
There's a Moore lad for Ballyhaise that i hadn't copped before but seen him twice this year and looks seriously accurate and is a big boy. Anyone else know him at all?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on August 16, 2015, 11:06:24 AM
Franis Moore, he was a Co Minor in 2011.

Ramor v Kingscourt today, Ramor would want to be pushing on, they could be like Castlerahan talked up every year and do nothing.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on August 16, 2015, 02:43:46 PM
Quote from: Itchy on August 16, 2015, 08:49:26 AM
Quote from: Westside on August 16, 2015, 12:49:41 AM
See the U16s took two heavy beatings from Kildare and Cork today in some sort of blitz. We should be very careful about raising expectations because of Gerry Reilly tournament wins.

JP Kelly is a half decent intermediate player albeit one with lots of heart and determination.. A long way off county standard IMO.

I was following on Twitter but updates stopped 15 minutes into 2nd half with Cavan winning by 2 against cork. That said the Twitter account had cork 6 up at half time and then 3 up at the start of the 2nd half so I assume Cavan scored a goal at half time. Anyone think Cavan Twitter quality has dropped lately since pro was changed? I see mistakes in scores all the time now

I'd agree with that. Declan Woods had set the bar very high for the twitter account. It's a lot more hit and miss since he left.

As far as I know Cork banged in 4 goals after the Cavan twitter updates stopped.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on August 16, 2015, 04:21:32 PM
Quote from: beer baron on August 16, 2015, 10:13:33 AM
There's a Moore lad for Ballyhaise that i hadn't copped before but seen him twice this year and looks seriously accurate and is a big boy. Anyone else know him at all?
Podge/Padraig Moore would be the younger brother of Frank Moore whom Rodney mentioned and is probably the lad you're talking about,he has caused havoc in the senior league this year. He has serious speed as well as size.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: comeysfield on August 20, 2015, 05:30:45 PM
Any word on a selector ?

Was at the Swad game vs Shercock, Killian Clarke looked and performed like a county player except he could not score which is currently the definition of what is a county player in Cavan (unfortunately), Geraoid was in and out of the game. Then was at the Kingscourt game Barkey and Sommerville looked very bright for Ramor as did Reilly for Kingscourt do not know what happened Kingscourt that let the game slip. Farrelly and the other midfielder totally dominated McEnroe. Jack Brady was absent till Ramor started winning but overall still nopt a county forward between the lot of them  but was at least a bit of a game

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mrdeeds on August 30, 2015, 09:18:39 PM
Floodlights strike Castlerahan again.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on August 31, 2015, 05:48:08 PM
Quote from: mrdeeds on August 30, 2015, 09:18:39 PM
Floodlights strike Castlerahan again.

Saturday Afternoon

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4sam on September 01, 2015, 12:29:57 PM
No chance of the lights going out in the re-fixture. Saturday at 3 o'clock.

Tony Gregory, along with Castlerahan, will begin to think he is jinxed.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mrdeeds on September 08, 2015, 09:42:54 AM
Dermot McCabe's brother Declan is now a selector with Meath.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: comeysfield on September 10, 2015, 06:11:44 PM
Well anybody see anyone in the championship that should be brought in and boost the panel. Any word or thoughts on a selector
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on September 10, 2015, 06:42:43 PM
Wonder would Mickey Hannon get involved? Seems to fancy himself as a tactician. Has some experience with DIT.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on September 10, 2015, 09:02:17 PM
More then 1 selector, Dolan is suppose to be going too, plus a replacement for McHale.

Be interesting to see if Keating will make himself available with Forde no longer involved.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: comeysfield on September 14, 2015, 05:55:12 PM
Oisin O'Connell put in some display for Castlerahan last night also Hessin for Cootehill. Did not make the Killeshandra game but is Declan McKieran or Paddy King or any of those lads putting their hands up for a try at the county again ?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mrdeeds on September 14, 2015, 07:06:15 PM
Oisin O Connell was top class. Mackey also brilliant. Ramor were shocking though.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on September 14, 2015, 07:59:59 PM
 Tomas Reilly of Killeshandra would be worth another look.

John McCutheon too, if he was able to commit. Maybe Barry Doyle as a newcomer too, plenty of ability.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mrdeeds on September 19, 2015, 10:30:45 PM
Championship up for grabs now.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: skeog on September 20, 2015, 12:04:58 AM
cavan gaels must be the most underachieving club in ulster wonderful facilities and huge financial clout
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mrdeeds on September 20, 2015, 12:16:45 AM
Quote from: skeog on September 20, 2015, 12:04:58 AM
cavan gaels must be the most underachieving club in ulster wonderful facilities and huge financial clout

Wonderful facilities? You've obviously never being to Terry Coyle Park. As for financial clout lost that during the recession. Probably the poorest supported team in Cavan.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on September 20, 2015, 08:21:16 AM
Arva into intermediate final :D

With the reds in the junior final all it needs is for Killeshandra to win their semi and all three teams in the parish would be in championship finals which must be some sort of record?

Great to see an open senior championship, Gaels would want to take a look at themselves but great stuff by The stars to win, especially kicking on when tinelly got sent off
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on September 20, 2015, 11:50:06 AM
Arva would need to improve for the final based on that performance.

Brendan Murray had a brilliant game for Killygarry and scored probaly the goal of the championship. Killygarry play a nice brand of football. Kingscourt deserving winners over Cavan Gaels. Chesty and Dominic Reilly badly missed for them. Barry Reilly was quality from dead balls.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Blue in hope on September 24, 2015, 09:49:33 AM
Cavans  provisional fixtures for the National League 2016 have been released. They are:

Jan 31st  Tyrone V Cavan
Feb 6th   Cavan V Derry
Feb 27th  Meath V Cavan
March 5th Cavan V Armagh
March 12th Fermanagh V Cavan
March 26th Cavan V Laois
April 2 nd Cavan V Galway
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on September 24, 2015, 11:06:27 AM
Quote from: Blue in hope on September 24, 2015, 09:49:33 AM
Cavans  provisional fixtures for the National League 2016 have been released. They are:

Jan 31st  Tyrone V Cavan
Feb 6th   Cavan V Derry
Feb 27th  Meath V Cavan
March 5th Cavan V Armagh
March 12th Fermanagh V Cavan
March 26th Cavan V Laois
April 2 nd Cavan V Galway

Good preparation for thechampionship.  5 home games (we nave layed so often in Brewster Park it's almost like home)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: comeysfield on September 24, 2015, 11:49:33 AM
Take the positives Last two games at home  tough opener against Tyrone put might be the time to get them
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on September 24, 2015, 07:12:49 PM
Could be worse, some juicy games there and 4 home games for a change
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on September 24, 2015, 09:11:30 PM
A lot of 50:50 games as I see it, you could easily get relegated if not up for it adequately or you could push into promotion contention. As we all know Cavan need forwards. Its critical we get Givney and Keating back in there and try and develop some of the other lads. Since Terry is staying I hope the players give him their full commitment for what is surely his last year.

Two big games at the weekend. Following from a distance you would have to fancy Kingscourt to beat Killygarry and maybe Castlerahan to beat Killeshandra as they wont be ambushed this time - hope I am wrong about the later.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Blue in hope on September 25, 2015, 10:32:57 AM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on September 24, 2015, 09:11:30 PM
A lot of 50:50 games as I see it, you could easily get relegated if not up for it adequately or you could push into promotion contention. As we all know Cavan need forwards. Its critical we get Givney and Keating back in there and try and develop some of the other lads. Since Terry is staying I hope the players give him their full commitment for what is surely his last year.

Two big games at the weekend. Following from a distance you would have to fancy Kingscourt to beat Killygarry and maybe Castlerahan to beat Killeshandra as they wont be ambushed this time - hope I am wrong about the later.


From what I have seen I wouldn't be a bit surprised to see Killygarry beat Kingscourt, Killeshandra wont be afraid of Castlerahan,They play fast direct football. Wouldn't it be great for Cavan Football to see a novel Killygarry V Killeshandra final.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mrdeeds on September 25, 2015, 10:50:28 AM
Not if you're from Castlerahan and Kingscourt.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mrdeeds on September 27, 2015, 10:02:50 AM
Castlerahan about 10 points the better team last night. Killeshandra have a great goalkeeper. Paul lukie best player on pitch.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on September 28, 2015, 11:22:19 AM
Had a feeling Rahan would be better prepared  this time, still a great year for Killeshandra and hopefully the experience can drive them on next year. I was a bit surprised seeing Cornafean losing to Templeport.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on September 28, 2015, 07:21:44 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on September 28, 2015, 11:22:19 AM
Had a feeling Rahan would be better prepared  this time, still a great year for Killeshandra and hopefully the experience can drive them on next year. I was a bit surprised seeing Cornafean losing to Templeport.

Why did it surprise you? Templeport beat them in the League and lost to them by a point in the first round after being 4 up with 10 minutes to go.

Templeport were excellent yesterday. Play a nice style of football, all very comfortable on the ball. Very impressive from a Junior side. Benjamin Kelly is developing into a marvellous footballer. Started at Full Forward and kicked two lovely points. Came out to wing back in the second half and pulled all the strings. Once Cornafean went man to man Liam Galligan cut loose (thanks to Kiernan's distribution) and Cornafean couldn't live with him.
The referee was letting a lot go and it wasn't suiting Templeport at the start, Kelly and Galligan were denied some stonewall frees but once Lasse Morgenroth began to dole out the hits things opened up a bit more and Templeport ran the game.
They all played well but the lads above as well as Liam McAweeney and Michael Devine were the driving force.

The scoreline flattered Cornafean, Templeport never looked in trouble. Unless Corlough can upset the odds they'll be playing in Division 2B as well as intermediate. With 3 starters having played Minor this year and 7 more still U21 next year it will be interesting to see how this side develop.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on September 29, 2015, 02:41:27 PM
I just thought the reds would win, nothing against Templeport. In fact I am happy to see them win, its been a long time.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on September 29, 2015, 02:54:43 PM
It wouldn't have been a surprise result but Cornafean have thereabouts in Junior for the last few years, in the last 4 junior Semi's before this year. They beat Templeport  last year  in the quarter final.

Templeport scored a goal directly  from a 45 in the earlier championship meeting, they weren't all over Cornafean in that game. No teams no going down from intermediate this year so Cornafean will fancy their chances next year.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on October 11, 2015, 07:08:41 PM
Fairly dire Co County, First half in particular. Castlerahan slightly the better team in the first half and deserved to lead. Kingscourt made a few good changes. Cian Mcardle done well when he came on.

Kingscourt is a designated Co County ground so they might get to play Kilcoo there in Ulster. They played Glenties in 2010 in Kingscourt. I can't see them beating Kilcoo.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on October 15, 2015, 02:08:17 PM
RIP J J O'Reilly, Cavan Gaels.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on October 15, 2015, 10:06:19 PM
Home to Armagh, bring on the fighting
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on October 19, 2015, 09:23:49 PM
Heard on the grapevine that a former Cavan U21 player is heading to play for Leitrim...
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on October 19, 2015, 10:29:23 PM
Presume that is Niall Walsh? He transferred to Glenfarne earlier this year. Why did he transfer to them?, it's only a few miles from Shannon Gaels.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on October 22, 2015, 11:00:32 PM
Any word on Terry Hylands back room team for next year? I'm not unhappy McHale is gone anyway, dont see what he brought to it and like I said when he was brought in, I had big doubts about him. I'd like to see the potential next manager come from within the county and it would be a great idea to get that person into the back room team this year - Peter Reilly, Bernard Morris, Ciaran Brady someone like that. Any word on whether Keating will come back in? What about Alan Clarke?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on October 24, 2015, 05:38:00 PM
Nevin O'Donnell, from what I hear, was at the initial Leitrim team meetings. Surprised at Shane Ward he seemed like a manager with a bit of sense, O'Donnell has no business being there. Seems like a guy who wants to play county football as opposed to playing football for his county.

Strange that there's been no confirmation of a backroom team. If Keating doesn't play county football this year he can pretty much forget about his intercounty career. You need to be playing at that level consistently. If he doesn't want to come in then let him at it, he won't make or break the chances of the team.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on October 24, 2015, 06:11:23 PM
I thought nevin o Donnell was in England?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on October 24, 2015, 07:51:43 PM
O Donnell is from Leitrim orginally. Played with them at County 16 level before moving to Shannon Gaels.  Leitrim lost Paul Brennan who switched to Bundoran at the end of 2014, and will now be eligible to play County with Donegal next year. Ward mightn't mind a player joinining them.

No word on the County u21 management either. Niall Lynch would be a good choice for that role.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on October 24, 2015, 08:44:51 PM
Is Peter Reilly not going to take u21 again? I must have missed that. Would lynch be a good addition to senior setup? Everything seems to be dragging on a bit.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on October 24, 2015, 08:53:47 PM
He is no longer U21 manager. .

Lynch is one of the coaches in the County, won 2 All Ireland Vocational Schools with Virginia, County titles with Mullahoran and Kingscourt,beaten narrowly in last years final
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on October 24, 2015, 10:04:18 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on October 24, 2015, 08:53:47 PM
He is no longer U21 manager. .

Lynch is one of the coaches in the County, won 2 All Ireland Vocational Schools with Virginia, County titles with Mullahoran and Kingscourt,beaten narrowly in last years final

When did Peter Reilly stand down, was that recently? For me he did a very good job with the U21s. I know some people think he was too defensive but for me he was playing the hand he was given to the best of his ability. He will be a hard man to follow.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on October 25, 2015, 10:39:48 AM
Hyland needs to get someone in to help him develop the game plan to increase our scoring rate, maybe even double it. That said we are limited in the forwards we have so it's difficult. Keating would be a welcome addition but if he wants to come back on on his own terms he can frig off. Mooney could be someone who could do a job and great to see Joe Dillon back. I'd have my doubts about Kevin Tierney but he's worth a look. If all those we're back in and training hard we might have a different dynamic.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on October 25, 2015, 12:21:01 PM
To be fair Itchy, there wasn't much wrong with our scoring rate this year. We racked up some nice scores in the League and scored well in all 3 Championship games. The gameplan definitely developed last year for the better. The Argue experiment either needs to be dropped or seriously reviewed.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on October 25, 2015, 03:21:07 PM
No goal threat is a big problem.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on October 27, 2015, 10:46:29 AM
Peter Reilly stepped down back in August.. There was nothing wrong with Cavan scoring record this year. They scored 1 -16 in the defeat to Roscommon.. They conceded 3-17 which was problem.They were creating goal chances but not converting. Dunne missed a penalty against Galway, Bud Fitz missed a handy chance in that game for goal. There was goal chances against Meath not converted.
Liam McHale was brought in as a forward coach so they were obviously going to be more attacking.

It's about getting the mix between a solid defence and a good attack. Will be a new coach and at least 1 new selector so diiferent ideads in 2016.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on October 28, 2015, 03:32:24 PM
Should've would've could've. Didn't stick the ball in the net enough and that needs to be addressed.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on October 28, 2015, 06:44:01 PM
Yeah they may import Bernard Brogan and the Gooch.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on October 28, 2015, 10:24:20 PM
You don't think a team can be set up in a way to increase goal scoring, it's all down to the players? Bullshit I say. Lazy comment there Rodney in my opinion.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on October 29, 2015, 10:44:29 AM
What are you on about? I said they were creating goal chances but not converting. Were you at the Galway game in the League, or Meath game, or Kildare game?

Cavan were lacking height in the forwards this year with no Givney or Keating which made things more difficult. Fermanagh have a natural goal scorer in Sean Quigely. There is no real natural goal scorers on the Cavan team, even at Club level. Kevin Tierney maybe one option, wether he can do it at Senior County remains to be seen.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on October 29, 2015, 03:19:46 PM
What I am on about is that Cavan have one of the worst scoring records of any team. You replied with a smart arse comment about bringing in brogan and gooch. To me that comment implies you have to have top players to score goals. That's crap in my opinion. Most goals come from either overlaps from deep or turning teams over high up the field and even just pushing up on kick outs. Cavan have not really implemented any of these tactics which could help them score goals. We may not score as many as Kerry or Dublin but we need to get back up above average at least
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on October 29, 2015, 04:48:39 PM
You also need  strong running players to create the over lap, which Cavan lack. Terry Hyland said it himself that Cavan are quite a small team for an Inter County team.  That isn't crap

The team that started against Roscommon was one of the smallest County forward lines in the Country. Look at Down they lack a goal threat since Benny Coulter left. David Giveny, Keating, Killian Clarke, Turloc Mooney  that is 4 players who would give Cavan a more powerful look, they missed the Championship. Keating , Givney and Mooney obviously missed the whole year.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on November 01, 2015, 04:37:02 PM
Embarrassing stuff in breffni today, not one county standard player on display from either ballyhaise or Kingscourt with the exception of potentially david Brady. Well done to temple port but that doesn't cover over just how poor our club scene is.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on November 01, 2015, 05:22:47 PM
Yep we were disappointing as Itchy said, great workrate and effort,but just came up short. Davie is going to be  an absolute star, he's already a beast of a man and he's only 18.
I didn't stay for the Kingscourt game, They are better than that,even if Kilcoo are very strong, what happened??
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on November 01, 2015, 05:52:06 PM
I'm afraid kingscourt were totally outclassed, Kilcoo just miles better. Sad but true.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on November 01, 2015, 06:51:18 PM
Quote from: Itchy on November 01, 2015, 05:52:06 PM
I'm afraid kingscourt were totally outclassed, Kilcoo just miles better. Sad but true.

I see, What do you lads reckon the problem is then?? Too many teams in the senior championship,some of whom have no business being there?
Do we need to run the Junior and Intermediate  competitions before the senior starts to allow for  properly prepared divisional/amalgamation teams to enter to improve quality???
It's hard to know, Kingscourt would have by my reckoning, 3 certain starters(if fit) for the IC team next year,Faulkner,Barry Reily and Tinnelly with Joe Dillon  and James Farrelly other potential panel members.
Its not a great sign if our county champions with probably 4/5 members of next years county panel are getting  a doing like that.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on November 01, 2015, 06:58:07 PM
Kingscourt while County Champions were beaten twice in the Championship by Mullahoran and Ramor. Mullahoran game was obviously a premlinary round game. It wasn't a great sign for a team representing the County going into Ulster.

I didn't expect Kingcourt to win today, but  I wasn't expecting them to get that hammering. Kilcoo have won the last 4 Down Championship and were in the Ulster Club final in 2012 losing narrowly to Crossmaglen. There pace and movement was on a different level to Kingscourt. Conor Laverty showed his class.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on November 01, 2015, 07:58:42 PM
Didn't Peter Quinn document the way forward a few years back only for a few small minded clubs to go appealing the decision getting the whole thing thrown out? Those clubs have a lot to answer for. In my opinion senior should have 10 clubs or so, 5/6 on their own merit and 4/5 amalgamations. Intermediate and junior played earlier in the year than the senior. Similar to what is in Kerry.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Blue in hope on November 02, 2015, 10:18:51 AM
Amalgamations cant play in Ulster club how would you arrive at  the team to represent Cavan?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Look-Up! on November 02, 2015, 05:44:35 PM
Quote from: Blue in hope on November 02, 2015, 10:18:51 AM
Amalgamations cant play in Ulster club how would you arrive at  the team to represent Cavan?

Same as they do in Kerry. If a club team wins the County Championship they represent Kerry in Munster. If an amalgamation wins the County Championship then the winners of the County Club Championship represents Kerry.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mrdeeds on November 02, 2015, 06:14:37 PM
Is it not the non amalgamated club that progresses furthest?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Look-Up! on November 02, 2015, 06:40:11 PM
I'm pretty sure they pick the winners of the club championship in that situation but I'm open to correction. But if a club team win the county championship then this championship gets preference. Otherwise if you had a county final of amalgamated teams how do you then decide which beaten semi-final club team progressed further?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mrdeeds on November 02, 2015, 07:12:23 PM
Sorry you're correct. It changed in recent years. Used to be best placed individual club went to Munster.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on November 02, 2015, 08:44:38 PM
Went to Ballybofey yesterday for the Templeport game. Naomh Ultan weren't up to much and Templeport took full advantage. They play a lovely style of football, not afraid to play off the cuff and try the difficult pass or shot, lots of long passing and sweeping moves forward, full of confidence. Liam Galligan, Benjamin Kelly and Eoghan Doonan were the best three players on show. Kelly in particular looks to have all the physical attributes to play at a high level.

All three goals were very high quality and the moment of the game was probably Liam McAweeney's pass for the first goal. He was out on the right wing and played a through ball to a tiny pocket of space between the defender and goalie which Doonan read perfectly, collected and finished to the net.

They've beaten every team comfortably since they lost to Cornafean in the opening round but looked vulnerable when Naomh Ultan ran at them as they did at times in the final against Cornafean. I'd imagine the Glasdrumman will be a big step up in class but it will take a good side to stifle this Templeport attack.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on November 02, 2015, 10:34:19 PM
This time of the year the same comments are made on here about the state of the club game in Cavan. Unfortunately it seems to be true. I played on a poor enough intermediate team when I played but I attend a few games last year and I couldnt help but notice the much poorer standard. So what is to be done? Surely the clubs need to recognise that it is in their long term interests to have stronger leagues and championships to develop their players as well as strengthen the county team. It has to be made a priority by the chairman in the same way as the last chairman made underage football a priority. Why? Well all the underage talent we have coming through will be wasted in the substandard Cavan football championships if something isnt done.

Well done to Templeport, looks like a good win. Hopefully they can go another step further and lift the gloom.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on November 03, 2015, 01:46:20 AM
Lads what's the situation regarding Hyland's selectors and coaches for next season? It was decided a long time ago that he was staying on - despite the obvious stagnation in the senior team - and in my opinion the only thing that could make the re-appointment an even half-sensible decision is if there was a strong team around Hyland, because I think he has lost his way at this stage. The current inertia and lack of progress and planning doesn't bode well at all.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on November 03, 2015, 10:22:47 AM
There is no U21 manager confirmed yet either. Niall Lynch rumoured to have that. Down and Mayo still haven't a Senior manager. Hyland would know himself he needs a good backroom team, every county manager does.

When the County Champions manage 5 points in the Ulster Club, that is a big worry.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on November 04, 2015, 12:37:13 AM
So my question stands then: if the need for a strong backroom team is so apparent to all of us, it should presumably also be apparent to Hyland and the county board ahead of what will, bottom line, be the defining season of his tenure. So why has everyone been flip-flopping and dragging their heels since he was reappointed? Mayo are hardly as much of a work-in-progress as we are, and well, Down can do things however they like, but I'd have thought Cavan would be seeking even the small advantage that can be gained from having a team in place early to commence planning ahead of January - a mere eight weeks down the road, by the way. It's a worrying sign from where I'm sitting, unless there's an ace up the sleeve that there's been no hint of...
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on November 04, 2015, 01:35:24 AM
County management and backroom team is a big commitment. Whoever they are seeking is probaly seeing if they can give that time for the year ahead.
Tipperary were looking for a new manager for a good while, Liam Kearns was only announced on Monday.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on November 04, 2015, 02:21:04 PM
I think one of the problems with getting someone is that they know that this is Hylands last year almost certainly. Therefore a new person will only have one year to make their mark as they may not necessarily be kept on with any new manager in 2017. The only sensible way for this to work is to have this years man as an apprentice who will take over next year. That means you are actually trying to a hire a new manager as opposed to a selector.

I still think Peter Reilly is  the man who fits this bill, if he is interested.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Blue in hope on November 04, 2015, 02:32:29 PM
Niall Lynch is the new U 21 manager. Hyland is having problems getting his back-room team together. Givney is back next year,Keating non committing yet as the league us still running in Dublin. Enda Hessin Cootehill is committing. Mark McKeever and Ronan Flanagan have opted out.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on November 04, 2015, 02:38:28 PM
Yep,  fair points lads.  I just expected a greater degree of urgency but it'll happen at its own pace it seems. Getting Peter Reilly aboard would be a smart move maybe but he stepped down from the 21s a good while ago so if it was going to happen it might have already been sorted.

Overall I have a bad feeling about 2016...
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on November 06, 2015, 03:53:48 PM
So, Mossy Corr,Ronan Flanagan,Mark McKeever  are definitely gone and "supposedly" Jack Brady,Martin Dunne, and Barry Reily aren't going to be in the panel in 2016,With Givney,Keating and Enda Hessin approached about rejoining the panel.  I know they played a trial game against Meath in the last couple of weeks with a number of new lads tried out.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on November 06, 2015, 05:14:37 PM
McKeever having an operation on his knee. Flanagan getting married. Corr is a good commitmed player but not really County standard, needless sending off against Roscommon probaly wouldn't have helped his chances of game time this year either.

Would like to see Barry Doyle in there, as much talent as a lot of the lads that been there the last few years.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: redzone on November 06, 2015, 06:03:25 PM
Flanagan will be a big miss but surely getting married isn't a reason to quit county football. Surely that's not the reason
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on November 06, 2015, 06:15:20 PM
BHM are you getting the supposeds from Hoganstand? If so that guy is a complete moron who posts lies constantly.

McKeever isn't really a loss, didn't get enough game time, a fantastic servant though. Flanagan and Corr are losses, Corr was one of our best players this year and was very effective around the middle. Flanagan, well that's a solid presence gone. Jack, Martin and Barry.. We had a flash from Dunne against Galway and Barry against Roscommon in the Championship but 3 fringe players in reality.

I'd be interested to see what David Brady could do if he was given a run at Senior Level.

Good stock of talent this year in the U21s.. Tomas Galligan, David Brady, Pearse Smith, Liam Galligan, Ben Kelly, Tom Hayes, Barry Fortune, Ryan Connolly... Tyrone in Breffni in the first round, reigning All Ireland Champions.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on November 06, 2015, 11:08:44 PM
Quote from: Westside on November 06, 2015, 06:15:20 PM
BHM are you getting the supposeds from Hoganstand? If so that guy is a complete moron who posts lies constantly.

McKeever isn't really a loss, didn't get enough game time, a fantastic servant though. Flanagan and Corr are losses, Corr was one of our best players this year and was very effective around the middle. Flanagan, well that's a solid presence gone. Jack, Martin and Barry.. We had a flash from Dunne against Galway and Barry against Roscommon in the Championship but 3 fringe players in reality.

I'd be interested to see what David Brady could do if he was given a run at Senior Level.

Good stock of talent this year in the U21s.. Tomas Galligan, David Brady, Pearse Smith, Liam Galligan, Ben Kelly, Tom Hayes, Barry Fortune, Ryan Connolly... Tyrone in Breffni in the first round, reigning All Ireland Champions.

I heard about Jack Brady and Martin Dunne from other sources,both weren't happy with their game time this year,and to be fair i couldn't blame them if they didn't go back in. Barry Reily i seen on hoganstand and that would be a suprise,I'd have thought Hyland would probably have given him a chance to claim the centre forward position,after the impact he made against Roscommon.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on November 07, 2015, 04:18:34 PM
If you play as poorly as Dunne did in most of Cavan's games in the League I don't see how you can complain about lack of game time. Same goes for Jack Brady. Is Barry Reilly robust enough to nail down a starting place? I'm not sure he is. If they're having trial games already how do they still not have selectors in place?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on November 07, 2015, 04:40:32 PM
I got to see a fair few cavan matches last year and Dunne was crap in all except for when he came on against Galway. He hasn't much pace and is totally lacking power and strength. In fact I think he owes Hyland for putting a player which his physique into a championship team at all where Keating was winning the ball for him and he was sticking it over. Everyone knows the accuracy he possesses but based on last year he cant have any complaints.

I think Barry Reilly is at a cross roads. I don't know his personal circumstances regarding work etc but he needs to bulk up too and start to look like a county player. There is no way he would play an ulster championship game on the 40 as he'd be fired around like a rag doll. I like his ability and I like his confidence but that isn't enough.

Corr would be a miss, an unsung hero.

McKeever a great servant and its a credit to him that he stuck in there and probably was a great guy to have on a panel to talk to the young lads but he was a 15 minute man at best last year and his best years are behind him. He was a credit.

Flanagan will be a miss, experienced, pacey and versatile. I never heard him whinging about managers so I presume he has his reasons this year and in fairness he owes nobody anything.

Jack Brady - hasn't shown himself to be up to the level yet, maybe he needs a break as hes been on the go a long time for a young lad.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on November 08, 2015, 05:02:03 PM
Lads generally wouldn't walk away from a team or squad they thought was going places or building towards something. If all we're reading or hearing is true, coupled with the lack of movement on the backroom team, then I'm even more uncomfortable with the decision to hang on to Terry now than I was when it was announced.

It's supposed to be a make or break year for this project but instead of decisive planning and progress, we have stagnation and a degree of unravelling.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on November 08, 2015, 05:44:49 PM
It would be unravelling if it was Rory Dunne or Gearoroid McKierann walking away. Mark McKeeever I thought should have featured more in the last few years for Cavan, I would rate him as a better football then Ronan Flanagan. Mossy Corr  I saw a few times this year with Denn and you wouldn't think he was a County player ,same as Jack brady with Ramor.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mrdeeds on November 18, 2015, 06:36:40 PM
Castlerahan down to play Saturday in under 21s and Sunday in seniors. Season should be winding down, not accelerating.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on November 18, 2015, 06:41:41 PM
The Breffni league Semi on Sunday. A League which starts in Feburary and still manages to drag on till Novemeber. Castlerahan have the other ACFL semi to be played too.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4sam on November 23, 2015, 11:25:53 AM
Castlerahan beat Mullahoran in the Breffni League semi last night and will now face Ballyhaise in the final. Their U21s drew with Assan Gaels on Saturday night. A number of players were left with a turn around of less than 24 hours.

They apparently face 2 games next weekend again now as they face Kingscourt in the ACFL semi on Friday night and the replay of the U21 on Sunday.

Its a joke that this is the situation we are left in in Cavan. Its not as though the county team had an extended run in the championship, they were knocked out in early July.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mrdeeds on November 24, 2015, 08:09:33 AM
Yeah two games again. Under 21 replay Friday and league semi Sunday. The County Board really doing their bit for player welfare.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on November 30, 2015, 06:55:47 PM
Is there a Senior Managment team in place yet?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on November 30, 2015, 09:58:28 PM
Quote from: tommysmith on November 30, 2015, 06:55:47 PM
Is there a Senior Managment team in place yet?
Its dragging on a bit at this stage. Haven't even heard a rumour or two.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Western Blue on December 06, 2015, 04:13:33 PM
Disappointing that no one has replied to Myles's request as to what going on behind the scene's regarding the Cavan Senior  Team for 2016, in particular the selectors that will be involved and any provisional squad for some really tough McKenna Cup matches.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on December 06, 2015, 05:08:59 PM
There is a backroom team assembled and has been for a while. They are probaly just going to announce it with the Panel for the Mckenna Cup in the next week or so.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Western Blue on December 06, 2015, 10:57:29 PM
Thanks Rodney, all appears to me a  a very low keyed build up to the 2016 season. Can we expect any outside big name appointments and is Eugene Keating back playing for us?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on December 06, 2015, 11:05:13 PM
I think the Coach who replaced McHale is from outside the County. They were waiting until Keating was finished with Kilmacud for the year, to see if he was committing for 2016. They were beaten today in the League final against St Vincents so might hear more about that in a while.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on December 10, 2015, 11:37:24 PM
Good Cavan representation on the DCU Freshers A League winning side today with Matthew McKenna, Thomas Galligan, Pierce Smith and David Brady all involved (Cian McManus also involved). Think David Brady did well got a brace of goals and a few points, McKenna got a goal too.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: scoopmine on December 15, 2015, 06:48:12 PM
We are Cavan had a tweet saying Jelly is back on the panel it then got deleted.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on December 15, 2015, 07:17:13 PM
I think next year will be one to forget.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on December 16, 2015, 07:50:22 AM
Quote from: scoopmine on December 15, 2015, 06:48:12 PM
We are Cavan had a tweet saying Jelly is back on the panel it then got deleted.

Being reported on the radio this morning, apparently a report in the Sun newspaper quotes Terry Hyland as confirming this as true. A dark day for Cavan football in my opinion if true and perhaps even more worrying than his return itself, its surely a sign of overall desperation by Hyland.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4sam on December 16, 2015, 09:32:18 AM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on December 16, 2015, 07:50:22 AM
Quote from: scoopmine on December 15, 2015, 06:48:12 PM
We are Cavan had a tweet saying Jelly is back on the panel it then got deleted.

Being reported on the radio this morning, apparently a report in the Sun newspaper quotes Terry Hyland as confirming this as true. A dark day for Cavan football in my opinion if true and perhaps even more worrying than his return itself, its surely a sign of overall desperation by Hyland.

This is exactly what it is.

Hyland will be gone after this season, a year too late in my opinion.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: scoopmine on December 16, 2015, 10:08:42 AM
If he kicks a few scores will it all be forgotten? Probably a better free taker than Dunne as well. Injured a lot in the last 3 seasons will he get back to county fitness quickly..?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4sam on December 16, 2015, 10:20:50 AM
Not doubting the ability of Seanie Johnston, we all know how good he can be but he was seen as a divisive member of the panel when he was there before and it's more his attitude that I would question.

Hasn't played very much since his return to Cavan Gaels either and did I hear correctly that he part of the management for Drumalee next year?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on December 16, 2015, 10:29:12 AM
People make mistakes, Johnston made a massive mistake. However, to move on from a mistake there must be an acknowledgement of it. So for me Johnston owes the supporters an apology and if he is not willing to do this then I for one will be saving a lot of Diesel this year as I won't be going to any games and I dont say that lightly as I have been going to games for a long time.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Ollie on December 16, 2015, 12:12:15 PM
An apology! ;D ;D

I heard Johnston and the county board are organising a letter of apology and a box Roses for you personally Myles! :D :-*

In all seriousness, He was let go by the previous manager and tried to resurrect his inter-county career with Kildare but to no great success. Nobody in Cavan had any problem with Rory Gallagher or Gareth Smith trying similar moves. I know the latter has Cavan parents but he was born a Dub, living and working in Dublin and playing club football there is whole life.

Regardless of U21 titles we have, we certainly have not produced many scoring forwards in the past few years. Dunne, Jack Brady, Bud Fitz etc are not going to win us many games. We also don't have many free takers either. Relying on out make-shift Goalkeeper to score to late frees for us against Monaghan was just very naïve by the management.

I don't like the idea of drafting in 31 year olds either. It shouldn't hamper the prospects of younger lads like Hayes, David Brady or Ciaran Brady who will probably be drafted out of the panel for the second half of the league if the u21s are doing well.

Johnston could be the difference between a winning by a point instead of loosing by the same margin just like our last two encounters with Monaghan in the Championship.   
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on December 16, 2015, 01:05:13 PM
Ollie- if you think SJ will make a difference in the claustrophobic ulster championship you are mistaken. Even at his prime he was poor against mass defence. Add to that all his baggage and I think this is a poor call by hyland. It does raise the question should Hyland have stopped last year as this stinks of a desperate man to me.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mrdeeds on December 16, 2015, 02:40:47 PM
Calling in a 31 year old who has barely played all year. A last roll of the dice by a desperate manager. A player who went out of his way to take a free against his native county on his bad foot.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on December 16, 2015, 06:31:06 PM
Sadly "desperation" is the first word that popped into my mind when I read the news this morning. The chances of Johnston making a significant difference to the inside forward line given his injuries, age and absence from intercounty football are very very slim. The chances that this move sends the wrong message to supporters, current players, younger players and invites a media circus to our camp for all the wrong reasons are fairly large.

I'm a big fan of Terry and I'd always give him the benefit of the doubt with his decisions but not with this one. Johnston should never have been given the opportunity to pull on a Cavan jersey again.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Old yeller on December 16, 2015, 09:02:43 PM
Quote from: Westside on December 16, 2015, 06:31:06 PM
Sadly "desperation" is the first word that popped into my mind when I read the news this morning. The chances of Johnston making a significant difference to the inside forward line given his injuries, age and absence from intercounty football are very very slim. The chances that this move sends the wrong message to supporters, current players, younger players and invites a media circus to our camp for all the wrong reasons are fairly large.

I'm a big fan of Terry and I'd always give him the benefit of the doubt with his decisions but not with this one. Johnston should never have been given the opportunity to pull on a Cavan jersey again.
Agree with ya there, desperate looking. You'd have to ask aswell, who does this benefit? What about building for the future? It looks like a selfish move to try and get some results, no matter what it takes, to take the bad look off last year. The only people this benefits is Johnston and the management.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on December 16, 2015, 09:44:42 PM
I wasn't very enthused at the prospect of 2016 before now,  and now I already think the season is a write-off. 

I might be like a lad with a dreadful hangover promising never to drink again only to see things differently a little later,  but it all leaves me thinking I personally wouldn't bother going to watch the team next year.

Hyland should have gone after the championship ended,  and now he looks like the blues guitarist that sold his soul to the devil at the crossroads.  A desperate,  to-hell-with-it-all roll of the dice.

Johnston might not ever be fit enough to play,  the rumour might not be true,  maybe he offered some sort of olive branch himself (highly unlikely) but this still sends a very bad message about the pride in our jersey that's been carefully restored recently.  A very depressing retrograde step.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on December 16, 2015, 10:20:59 PM
Quote from: Ollie on December 16, 2015, 12:12:15 PM
An apology! ;D ;D

I heard Johnston and the county board are organising a letter of apology and a box Roses for you personally Myles! :D :-*

In all seriousness, He was let go by the previous manager and tried to resurrect his inter-county career with Kildare but to no great success. Nobody in Cavan had any problem with Rory Gallagher or Gareth Smith trying similar moves. I know the latter has Cavan parents but he was born a Dub, living and working in Dublin and playing club football there is whole life.

Regardless of U21 titles we have, we certainly have not produced many scoring forwards in the past few years. Dunne, Jack Brady, Bud Fitz etc are not going to win us many games. We also don't have many free takers either. Relying on out make-shift Goalkeeper to score to late frees for us against Monaghan was just very naïve by the management.

I don't like the idea of drafting in 31 year olds either. It shouldn't hamper the prospects of younger lads like Hayes, David Brady or Ciaran Brady who will probably be drafted out of the panel for the second half of the league if the u21s are doing well.

Johnston could be the difference between a winning by a point instead of loosing by the same margin just like our last two encounters with Monaghan in the Championship.   

Yes an apology, an admission that they made a mistake or some remorse for what he did. Maybe I am old fashioned but when a player is banished from the panel in this manner I would expect that he would have to put somethings right before being asked back in. Otherwise what is the message to all the other players in  the county - do whatever you like, it doesn't matter?? Like Westside I would also have given Hyland a lot of support over the years, especially on his stance on Johnston. I think he has done a lot of good but I am afraid he has taken an incredible backwards step here. I really cannot see the angle, the positive, the logic in this decision. 2016 is a write off and I won't be travelling to see the senior team playing. In fact, if anyone wants a McKenna cup ticket please PM me.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on December 16, 2015, 11:36:10 PM
Myles I think everyone is a bit disillusioned with this move from Hyland but stay the course. One man on the panel can't sour the whole lot. Last year didn't end well granted but I have to say following the team throughout the McKenna Cup and the League was a pleasure. Lads like Rory Dunne, Martin Reilly, James McEnroe, Mossy Corr.. All putting together consecutive performances that we have been crying out for for years and certainly restoring pride in the jersey. The overall effort and progress of the last two years from the lads deserves the supporters loyalty regardless of Johnston's presence. Hopefully Killian the Gunner gives him a nice welcome back at training..
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Ollie on December 17, 2015, 10:13:45 AM
People who start saying that 2016 is a "write off" due to a player being called up that they dislike would want to take a good long look at themselves. Can you really call yourself a true supporter if your planning on  boycotting the team due to disliking one player?

Myles your critical of Johnston playing for another county. Yet your planning on walking away from supporting the team in protest. Seems a bit hypercritical of you Myles!

The management will call up an array of different players leading up to the McKenna Cup. Some will be kept on, others won't. Regardless of his age or what went on in the past, Johnston has talent. He might be a little older and lost some of his pace but he's still a credible option in the League at least. As I said in a previous post, we're not blessed with many good forwards or free takers. All avenues have to be explored by the management and that includes Johnston.

I'm proud to be a Cavan supporter. I'm not going to distant myself from games just because I've an issue with one player out of a panel of 30. People on this forum with negative and begrudging attitudes are better off staying at home!!   
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: five points on December 17, 2015, 10:18:46 AM
Correct decision to bring back Jelly. Remember Hyland's quote after Monaghan beat us by a point, "When they were bringing on our experienced men, we were taking off ours".

This year, we need all the experience we can muster. 
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on December 17, 2015, 10:27:12 AM
Quote from: Ollie on December 17, 2015, 10:13:45 AM
People who start saying that 2016 is a "write off" due to a player being called up that they dislike would want to take a good long look at themselves. Can you really call yourself a true supporter if your planning on  boycotting the team due to disliking one player?

To clarify, I meant that things (to me) didn't look good even before this development and now that this has happened, I don't think the team will achieve anything in 2016 and it'd leave me inclined to stay at home instead of going to the game. Seanie coming back is just a symptom of Hyland's wider problem, he should have gone after last season but we are where we are.
You'll find I won't be the only one reading between the lines like this. Bringing Seanie back will be very divisive and will cause more problems than it solves. I hope I'm wrong but can't see this going any other way but badly.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on December 17, 2015, 11:12:22 AM
Quote from: Ollie on December 17, 2015, 10:13:45 AM
People who start saying that 2016 is a "write off" due to a player being called up that they dislike would want to take a good long look at themselves. Can you really call yourself a true supporter if your planning on  boycotting the team due to disliking one player?

Myles your critical of Johnston playing for another county. Yet your planning on walking away from supporting the team in protest. Seems a bit hypercritical of you Myles!

The management will call up an array of different players leading up to the McKenna Cup. Some will be kept on, others won't. Regardless of his age or what went on in the past, Johnston has talent. He might be a little older and lost some of his pace but he's still a credible option in the League at least. As I said in a previous post, we're not blessed with many good forwards or free takers. All avenues have to be explored by the management and that includes Johnston.

I'm proud to be a Cavan supporter. I'm not going to distant myself from games just because I've an issue with one player out of a panel of 30. People on this forum with negative and begrudging attitudes are better off staying at home!!

Its a bit of a red herring trying to turn this into a "dislike" of one player. In my opinion Johnston betrayed his team mates, the supporters, Cavan GAA and the wider GAA ethos. He has shown no remorse for it. As for my bona fides as a supporter, I know what games and efforts I have made to go to matches (every game is an away game for me, Breffni is 2.5 hrs from where I live), I dont need to justify them anymore than that. I will not be a hypocrite and stand in the terrace as an unrepentant Sean Johnston takes the field as in my opinion that would be to show support to  the decision.

I have no wish to get into a slagging match with you Ollie or anyone else (we all did that before and it was not a healthy undertaking), positions on this are well known. I see this as a reckless decision by Hyland and has the potential to cause untold trouble in the camp and in Cavan GAA. I can't and won't support it. That's my position on it right or wrong.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Ollie on December 17, 2015, 11:56:30 AM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on December 17, 2015, 11:12:22 AM
Quote from: Ollie on December 17, 2015, 10:13:45 AM
People who start saying that 2016 is a "write off" due to a player being called up that they dislike would want to take a good long look at themselves. Can you really call yourself a true supporter if your planning on  boycotting the team due to disliking one player?

Myles your critical of Johnston playing for another county. Yet your planning on walking away from supporting the team in protest. Seems a bit hypercritical of you Myles!

The management will call up an array of different players leading up to the McKenna Cup. Some will be kept on, others won't. Regardless of his age or what went on in the past, Johnston has talent. He might be a little older and lost some of his pace but he's still a credible option in the League at least. As I said in a previous post, we're not blessed with many good forwards or free takers. All avenues have to be explored by the management and that includes Johnston.

I'm proud to be a Cavan supporter. I'm not going to distant myself from games just because I've an issue with one player out of a panel of 30. People on this forum with negative and begrudging attitudes are better off staying at home!!

Its a bit of a red herring trying to turn this into a "dislike" of one player. In my opinion Johnston betrayed his team mates, the supporters, Cavan GAA and the wider GAA ethos. He has shown no remorse for it. As for my bona fides as a supporter, I know what games and efforts I have made to go to matches (every game is an away game for me, Breffni is 2.5 hrs from where I live), I dont need to justify them anymore than that. I will not be a hypocrite and stand in the terrace as an unrepentant Sean Johnston takes the field as in my opinion that would be to show support to  the decision.

I have no wish to get into a slagging match with you Ollie or anyone else (we all did that before and it was not a healthy undertaking), positions on this are well known. I see this as a reckless decision by Hyland and has the potential to cause untold trouble in the camp and in Cavan GAA. I can't and won't support it. That's my position on it right or wrong.


I'll not get into a slagging match with you and I respect your decision. But you might be digging a hole for yourself if we do start playing well this year. With or without Johnston, the panel is strong enough to compete for promotion in Div 2. Its also well capable of beating Armagh at home. Each player on that panel has a point to prove. Keating and Givney or due back. Ciaran Brady, Argue and McVitty will be trying to build on good performances last year. Players like Rory Dunne, Killian Clarke, McKiernan, Mossey, Fergal Flanagan, Mcloughlin, Martin Reilly and Murray never lack heart or determination. If Johnston is kicking scores or making a valuable contribution to the team then all well and good. If not, then lets hope that some young fella is. Maybe David Brady for instance!

Maybe I'm being too optimistic. Its easy to feel pessimistic after the Roscommon match last year. Our biggest problem isn't the players at hand, its the tactics and the style of play that Terry insists on. You just hope he plans to adopt a better approach after two failed years in succession in the championship. There's little point calling in a player like Johnston if he doesn't plan to utilise the forwards more.

Keep the faith Myles. No point dwelling on the past. Keep in mind too that it could be the last Ulster Championship as the championship structure changes for 2017 as expected. If we beat Armagh in May and progress in the championship you can be sure they're will be little talk about the past.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on December 17, 2015, 11:41:46 PM
So Keating rules out a return which is disappointing. I never thought he had it upstairs enough to be carry our forward line and push us on to another level but after he left we saw that we didn't really have another viable option for a full forward. As for Dunne leaving well you'd have to say he didn't look like a man enjoying his football and only seemed to be on his game when he had a point to prove after being benched and brought on as a sub.

According to Hoganstand the new lads have been brought in are Enda Henry, Barry Doyle, Conor Finnegan, Thomas Moore, Joe Dillon, Padraic Faulkner, Barry Tully. Hopefully some of them can offer us something new. Doyle certainly knows where the posts are but it's a huge step up. Funny to see Finnegan in there after showing such promise as a minor and then never breaking into the 21s team. Where does Thomas Moore play?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mylestheslasher on December 18, 2015, 08:03:47 AM
Quote from: Westside on December 17, 2015, 11:41:46 PM
So Keating rules out a return which is disappointing. I never thought he had it upstairs enough to be carry our forward line and push us on to another level but after he left we saw that we didn't really have another viable option for a full forward. As for Dunne leaving well you'd have to say he didn't look like a man enjoying his football and only seemed to be on his game when he had a point to prove after being benched and brought on as a sub.

According to Hoganstand the new lads have been brought in are Enda Henry, Barry Doyle, Conor Finnegan, Thomas Moore, Joe Dillon, Padraic Faulkner, Barry Tully. Hopefully some of them can offer us something new. Doyle certainly knows where the posts are but it's a huge step up. Funny to see Finnegan in there after showing such promise as a minor and then never breaking into the 21s team. Where does Thomas Moore play?

Why can Keating only let the manager know last Tuesday that he can't play due to work commitments? Sound like another boy with a big ego. He had potential but he was a long long way from a top player due mostly to his decision making. Good luck to the new lads. I think Faulkner and Dillon could be big players one day.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mrdeeds on December 18, 2015, 11:55:15 AM
Fergal Reilly and Stephen Cooney called in too.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanforever on December 18, 2015, 02:48:57 PM
Barry Reilly and Hessin also not committing this year,
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mrdeeds on December 18, 2015, 03:54:23 PM
Thought Hession was commiting? A lot of backs called in even though we strong there. Would have liked to see Enda O Connell in. One of the best man markers around.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: beer baron on December 18, 2015, 04:04:14 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on December 18, 2015, 08:03:47 AM
Quote from: Westside on December 17, 2015, 11:41:46 PM
So Keating rules out a return which is disappointing. I never thought he had it upstairs enough to be carry our forward line and push us on to another level but after he left we saw that we didn't really have another viable option for a full forward. As for Dunne leaving well you'd have to say he didn't look like a man enjoying his football and only seemed to be on his game when he had a point to prove after being benched and brought on as a sub.

According to Hoganstand the new lads have been brought in are Enda Henry, Barry Doyle, Conor Finnegan, Thomas Moore, Joe Dillon, Padraic Faulkner, Barry Tully. Hopefully some of them can offer us something new. Doyle certainly knows where the posts are but it's a huge step up. Funny to see Finnegan in there after showing such promise as a minor and then never breaking into the 21s team. Where does Thomas Moore play?

Why can Keating only let the manager know last Tuesday that he can't play due to work commitments? Sound like another boy with a big ego. He had potential but he was a long long way from a top player due mostly to his decision making. Good luck to the new lads. I think Faulkner and Dillon could be big players one day.

The man mightn't have been sure what way his work situation was going to be for the next year until recently and didn't want to commit if he wasn't sure? Makes sense if that's the case to wait before giving an answer rather than  saying yes and then opting out  ::)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on December 18, 2015, 05:00:53 PM
Eugene might work for some commando unit and his next mission only came in this week.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Blue in hope on December 23, 2015, 12:36:40 PM
Anthony Forde is the new Cavan Gaels manager for 2016 an will be assisted by Paul McCorry.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on December 23, 2015, 12:39:30 PM
I've been out of the loop for a while lads, who is the new backroom team for Terry?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on December 23, 2015, 12:58:21 PM
Moore plays between half forward midfield. Thats only the panel for the McKenna Cup be reviewed again after that. Conor Finnegan played some good stuff with Lacken this year but still a step up to County Senior. See what happens anyway.

Good to see Faulkner on the panel. Rory Dunne won't be back for a few months so Faulkner capable of playing full back. He will probaly be playing wih Maynooth in the O Byrne Cup though.


Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on December 23, 2015, 06:08:02 PM
Quote from: mrdeeds on December 18, 2015, 03:54:23 PM
Thought Hession was commiting? A lot of backs called in even though we strong there. Would have liked to see Enda O Connell in. One of the best man markers around.

The O Connell twins were in before, not sure if it was a commitment issue or what.I  Casterahan can't really have any complaints about their players not a getting a chance.

Ronan Flanagan, Mackey, Paul Smith, David Wright, Oisin and Enda O Connell, and now Fergal Reilly and Stephen Cooney have been on the panel.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Blue in hope on December 24, 2015, 01:46:07 PM
No one new on Terrys backroom team. Kevin Downes has stepped up to the roll of trainer and the strength and conditioning coach think his name is McGovern are the trio for this year.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on December 24, 2015, 01:55:34 PM
The thing looks a bit uninspiring this year. Wouldn't be surprised if we ended up in div 3
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on December 24, 2015, 04:41:15 PM
Quote from: Blue in hope on December 24, 2015, 01:46:07 PM
No one new on Terrys backroom team. Kevin Downes has stepped up to the roll of trainer and the strength and conditioning coach think his name is McGovern are the trio for this year.

Is Eoin Maguire from Dublin not the Strength and Conditioning Coach???
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on December 24, 2015, 09:48:47 PM
McGovern is the stats man. Everything surrounding Cavan has gone a bit.. flat or something. Is it the financial situation of the County Board?

The U21s have only just started training, every other year they would have been training for a couple of months at this stage. They lost to Fermanagh in a challenge game. Keeping a huge squad, much bigger than previous years. Niall Lynch breaking the mould that had served us so well over the past 5 years it would seem.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on December 24, 2015, 10:15:14 PM
U21 first game at home to Tyrone, the all Ireland champions.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on December 27, 2015, 10:54:13 PM
Quote from: Itchy on December 24, 2015, 01:55:34 PM
The thing looks a bit uninspiring this year. Wouldn't be surprised if we ended up in div 3

I have a growing feeling of dread about 2016 and I really hope I'm wrong.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on December 28, 2015, 01:44:43 PM
Will we win a Championship game at Senior or Underage this year?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Western Blue on December 28, 2015, 06:20:07 PM
Never known the mood of the supporters to be as low at the start of the new season as at present . No interviews reported or given by the Manager re  plans, no information concerning challenge games played and results and no published list of the complete panel for the McKenna Cup series of matches. From what I am reading and hearing a lot of players are returning to play for their counties but not the same story with us,  The wearing of the Blue jersey and County Crest of Cavan is not worth fighting for anymore . Not a fan of Seanie for what he did in the past but I am prepared to welcome him back and hopefully he can still display his scoring skills again both home and away this season.  Difficult match in Armagh to start the season so hears hoping the season ahead is Blue.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on December 29, 2015, 09:47:22 AM
I've never seen such disinterest in the senior team and a lot of folk I've talked to are not too happy with Johnston being back. Sure maybe everything is grand in the camp and they'll surprise us.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Blue in hope on January 01, 2016, 12:28:25 PM
Itchy the players agreed to have Johnston back. The guy should be given a chance and judged on the pitch.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on January 01, 2016, 12:34:45 PM
Quote from: Blue in hope on January 01, 2016, 12:28:25 PM
Itchy the players agreed to have Johnston back. The guy should be given a chance and judged on the pitch.

I'm sceptical but I hope it works out. The ironic thing for me is that a player like Johnston is not what we are missing, the loss of Keating is a much bigger blow because we need a strong target man at full forward and I guess Hyland will now persist with either Argue or Givney
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4sam on January 01, 2016, 07:52:17 PM
I know Joe Dillon is only about 5 10 but I'd much prefer to see him used as the ball winner in the ff line.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on January 01, 2016, 08:21:18 PM
Quote from: cavan4sam on January 01, 2016, 07:52:17 PM
I know Joe Dillon is only about 5 10 but I'd much prefer to see him used as the ball winner in the ff line.

Yes, can can score too but not sure would he cut it yet against the bigger stronger back lines
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on January 06, 2016, 12:23:07 PM
Quote from: Itchy on December 18, 2015, 05:00:53 PM
Eugene might work for some commando unit and his next mission only came in this week.

Eugenes mission may have been cancelled or maybe he got it done early but it appears he is back now either way.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Ollie on January 06, 2016, 03:22:01 PM
Good to see Keating back. He's a dynamic player with many attributes. Although would like to see him at Full Forward. We can then play Argue at Midfield alongside Gearoid. Givney and Mossy are other options too. Any word on Rory Dunne?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on January 06, 2016, 05:23:19 PM
Quote from: Ollie on January 06, 2016, 03:22:01 PM
Good to see Keating back. He's a dynamic player with many attributes. Although would like to see him at Full Forward. We can then play Argue at Midfield alongside Gearoid. Givney and Mossy are other options too. Any word on Rory Dunne?

Rory Dunne hasn't kicked ball since the London game. He is a long shot this year I think
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Ollie on January 07, 2016, 09:29:46 AM
Quote from: Itchy on January 06, 2016, 05:23:19 PM
Quote from: Ollie on January 06, 2016, 03:22:01 PM
Good to see Keating back. He's a dynamic player with many attributes. Although would like to see him at Full Forward. We can then play Argue at Midfield alongside Gearoid. Givney and Mossy are other options too. Any word on Rory Dunne?

Rory Dunne hasn't kicked ball since the London game. He is a long shot this year I think

Sad to hear that. He's been very solid at full back the last couple of years. A big loss.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on January 07, 2016, 11:31:11 AM
Quote from: Ollie on January 07, 2016, 09:29:46 AM
Quote from: Itchy on January 06, 2016, 05:23:19 PM
Quote from: Ollie on January 06, 2016, 03:22:01 PM
Good to see Keating back. He's a dynamic player with many attributes. Although would like to see him at Full Forward. We can then play Argue at Midfield alongside Gearoid. Givney and Mossy are other options too. Any word on Rory Dunne?

Rory Dunne hasn't kicked ball since the London game. He is a long shot this year I think

Sad to hear that. He's been very solid at full back the last couple of years. A big loss.

Especially big loss if McEnroe is not committing this year either.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4sam on January 07, 2016, 12:05:45 PM
Those 2 guys would be massive losses to the panel as they are very experienced and also are physical and athletic. The only consolation is that we have a lot of backs who are ready to make the step up and hopefully this will be an opportunity for these guys to stake a claim for a regular place in the team. Was very impressed with the HB line on Sunday.

Also thought that Enda Henry done very well on his debut. Was really good to see Tom Hayes come on and show what he is good at, winning the ball in front of his man, turning and taking him on. Martin Reilly was excellent. It was hard to fault any of the lads that played the whole game as we had to put men behind the ball and make it difficult for Armagh to break us down. Niall McDermott also very good in the first half when he was the sole forward left inside. The 2 young lads at midfield competed well and didn't look out of place either.

Cavan will need to sort out their discipline as ultimately it cost them last year. They lost 2 matches in the league last year after being reduced to 14 men (against Kildare and Down) which cost them promotion to Div 1 and were knocked out of the championship by Roscommon when Mossy Corr was sent off before the start of the second half. 3 straight reds on Sunday is not good enough.

For anyone not able to make the game on Sunday here is a video of it. Missing the first couple of minutes in which both sides had scored a long range free each.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2_q2iTmfC6c&feature=youtu.be (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2_q2iTmfC6c&feature=youtu.be)

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on January 07, 2016, 12:40:03 PM
Well done Maggie Farrelly for reffing the Fermanagh - Saint Mary's game last night.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on January 07, 2016, 08:03:34 PM
What do people make of Dunne's tweet? Seems like he may have issues with Hyland.

Can anyone confirm if McEnroe is definitely opting out for the year?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on January 07, 2016, 08:08:00 PM
Quote from: Westside on January 07, 2016, 08:03:34 PM
What do people make of Dunne's tweet? Seems like he may have issues with Hyland.

Can anyone confirm if McEnroe is definitely opting out for the year?

Shows how stupid he is, now is tweet is headline on hoganstand. Dunne was angry at not getting game time last year but apart from a few minutes against Galway and a half against Offaly, he was very poor and can have no complaints.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mrdeeds on January 07, 2016, 08:58:50 PM
McEnroe working in England I think.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on January 07, 2016, 10:08:20 PM
Dunne would be a good option to have but can't have any complaints about a lack of game time last year.

McEnroe will be a huge loss. Had a fantastic league and was second only to Rory Dunne as our player of the year. Hopefully we see him back in blue at some point.

I wonder was Gerry Smith ever asked into the panel? Would fit right into our counter attacking play. Thought he usually stood out more at underage than McVeety.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Ollie on January 08, 2016, 11:04:12 AM
Dunne is a squad player at best. He's not a game changer or an influential forward. He played his best football for Cavan against weaker opposition in Div 3. Wouldn't read too much into the tweet. Silly for Hyland to say he's going travelling if he isn't.

McEnroe is a big loss. He's always been consistent for Cavan. Is Jason Mcloughlin on the panel this year?

Somebody mentioned Gerry Smith too, he always looked promising on the last U21 winning team. As did Barry Fortune, Joe Dillion and Liam Buchannan. Would like to see all four been given some game time at in the league this year.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4sam on January 08, 2016, 11:11:52 AM
Gerry Smith was an outstanding minor but in my opinion hasn't progressed enough to be called into the senior set up. Doesn't stand out for Lavey that much and I also seen him playing for Assan Gaels U21 team twice this year and he wasn't standing out the way I had expected him to in his last year at that grade.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Ollie on January 08, 2016, 11:21:18 AM
Quote from: cavan4sam on January 08, 2016, 11:11:52 AM
Gerry Smith was an outstanding minor but in my opinion hasn't progressed enough to be called into the senior set up. Doesn't stand out for Lavey that much and I also seen him playing for Assan Gaels U21 team twice this year and he wasn't standing out the way I had expected him to in his last year at that grade.

that's a pity. Always played with plenty of heart and determination. A good season at club level might revive him. When you look at the likes of Enda Henry, Thomas Moore, Levi Murphy and Paul O'Connor all getting game time, it must bring hope to other regular club stalwarts about possible call up.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Blue in hope on January 08, 2016, 12:03:28 PM
Until the management let the players get game time with their clubs people like Martin Dunne will not commit. He was out after the Armagh game in 2014 got no football worth talking about for the rest of the year. Got  some game time in the national league with high balls been put in on top of him. Got an few minutes in the championship. So up to July he got dam all football played. Why wasn't he (and others) not allowed to sharpen up and get game time with their clubs. From what i have been told all he wants is to play some ball this year and the only way he is guaranteed game time is with his club.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Ollie on January 08, 2016, 03:42:25 PM
Quote from: Blue in hope on January 08, 2016, 12:03:28 PM
Until the management let the players get game time with their clubs people like Martin Dunne will not commit. He was out after the Armagh game in 2014 got no football worth talking about for the rest of the year. Got  some game time in the national league with high balls been put in on top of him. Got an few minutes in the championship. So up to July he got dam all football played. Why wasn't he (and others) not allowed to sharpen up and get game time with their clubs. From what i have been told all he wants is to play some ball this year and the only way he is guaranteed game time is with his club.

Didn't realise players were so heavily restricted by the management when it came to club games. Although very little point of him staying on the panel if he's not being selected.

What about this years U21s? Are they strong enough to make it to the Ulster final? 44 players togged out between two games against Meath so Lynch is certainly giving everyone a chance.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on January 08, 2016, 04:16:43 PM
There were a lot of players that got less time than Dunne. They didnt all leave. He needs a big ball winner beside him to prosper and if he is targeted by the opposition its game over.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mrdeeds on January 08, 2016, 06:24:45 PM
After last years league opener versus Roscommon it was easy to see why Dunne got little run in. Good quality ball going into him bouncing nicely and he literally didn't bother going for it. Always looking for it to be handed to him.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on January 09, 2016, 09:26:33 PM
A good win, players blooded, goals scored, the inevitable "Johnston returns" headlines out of the way early.. Can't argue with that.

The U21s were hammered today. Don't think they scored at all in the second half.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4sam on January 09, 2016, 09:49:53 PM
Enda Henry's goal was absolutely brilliant. It's a pity there's no video of it.

Great win with a very inexperienced side.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on January 10, 2016, 09:34:59 AM
See link below, last paragraph says enda hessin quit the panel. Anyone know what happened there?

http://www.irishnews.com/sport/gaafootball/2016/01/09/news/cavan-boss-terry-hyland-wary-of-smart-uuj-students-376596/
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on January 13, 2016, 04:31:50 PM
Next team.

am in Full:
1. Alan O'Mara (Oliver Plunketts)
2. Joshua Hayes (Cootehill)
3. Killian Brady (Mullahoran)
4. Padraig Faulkner (Kingscourt)
5. Barry Tully (Kingscourt)
6. Conor Moynagh (Drumgoon)
7. Martin Reilly (Killygarry)
8. David Givney (Ballymun Kickhams)
9. Thomas Corr (Denn)
10. Christopher Conroy (Lavey)
11. Jack Brady (Ramor Utd)
12. Cian Mackey (Castlerahan)
13. Conor Finnegan (Lacken)
14. Paul O'Connor (Cavan Gaels)
15. Niall McDermott (Ballinagh)

Best of luck to all the team.!!!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on January 13, 2016, 07:57:22 PM
Bit worried about that defence, not much experience there at Senior Level. Very interested to hear how Finnegan and O'Connor get on, be relying on WeareCavan tonight!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4sam on January 14, 2016, 10:16:27 AM
Pretty good performance from a very inexperienced Cavan side last night. Good to get a draw against a Monaghan team that introduced 2 All Stars in the second half to try to get the win.

From what I've seen of Cavan this year there are lot more options and there will be good competition for places. Only early days but fingers crossed for a good year.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Ollie on January 15, 2016, 12:00:16 PM
You can't fault them so far. Derry will be a good test. Be great to see them back in the McKenna Cup final and hopefully go one better than last year. Interestingly enough, Tyrone and Derry are the first two teams they play in the League. You'd imagine Tyrone will beat Fermanagh in the other semi final. So if we do make it to the final we could end up playing Tyrone two weeks in a row and then Derry in round 2. Its Meath in round 3 after that.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on January 15, 2016, 01:53:46 PM
Is it true that if you are on the county panel, you are  expected to sit out off games involving your club?

If true, madness.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on January 17, 2016, 12:30:51 PM

The Cavan v Derry game is live on Linwoods Armagh TV at a cost of £3

http://www.armaghgaa.net/armaghtv/
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on January 24, 2016, 01:49:11 PM
Wasn't very impressed with the U21s in Longford on Friday, very little in the way of defensive organisation or kickout strategy. In terms of personnel Liam Galligan looked lively and was at the centre of a lot of Cavan's goal chances. Hayes looked good in the first half and our No. 7 (name escapes me) got on a lot of ball.

Listened to the interview with Lynch on WeareCavan the next day and he has said that the team has played more games than they have done training sessions and freely admitted that they haven't worked on a kickout strategy or defensive gameplay and that this far they have been just putting out 15 lads to express themselves.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on January 24, 2016, 08:50:57 PM
Well considering they are not training much they are doing well to make the final. Only thing is there is not the same steely defence so far but maybe in time it will come.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on January 25, 2016, 03:37:35 PM
No harm in moving away from the steely defence approach at U21. It's just a grind. Cavan have won 4 U21 titles playing that way and lost narrowly to Donegal last year.

Could win another 5 U21 titles that way, producing the same type of player. A bit more flair is needed.
Title: Re: Packie Devlin
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Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Ollie on February 02, 2016, 04:45:06 PM
Anybody travel to Omagh last weekend? Should we be able to beat Derry at home? What about the u21s? Bad result especially by that margin.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4sam on February 03, 2016, 10:39:52 AM
I was in Omagh, very hard to make a judgement on where we are from that game as the conditions were very wet. Going up I was happy if we were able to stay with what I consider to be 1 of the top 5/6 teams in the country and we did that. Could have actually sneaked a draw at the end if we had taken a couple of point chances. Niall McDermott got a bad groin injury in the first half. Will be out for a while by all accounts.

Not sure how we will get on against Derry. I've heard they are very good at kicking long range scores and that could help them against a Cavan team which invite the opposition on to them. Hopefully we will have a bit more fire power up front v Derry and get the win.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Ollie on February 03, 2016, 10:53:53 AM
So that's Niall McDermott and Niall Murray added to the injury list. Rory Dunne and Jason Mcgloughlin are also a big loss.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4sam on February 03, 2016, 10:55:21 AM
What injury has Niall Murray got? Was wondering why he wasn't involved on Sunday. Has turned into a very important player over the last year or so.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Blue in hope on February 03, 2016, 03:30:27 PM
Niall Murray out for the Derry match but hopes to be back for the next match v Meath.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Ollie on February 04, 2016, 02:59:43 PM
Murray has become an integral part of the team. Although injuries always seem to be a problem with him. Do you envisage many changes for the Derry game? Johnston to start maybe? he'll need all the game time he can get to be fully sharp come the summer.

Any truth in the rumours linking G McKiernan to the Gaels?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: beer baron on February 04, 2016, 03:13:06 PM
I wouldn't be surprised to see O' Connor start this weekend. Fed off scraps last week but well able to win his own ball, at one stage last week he went up for a ball,apparently smothered by 2 Tyrone men and came out with the ball. He's dangerous too and i'd say he's ahead of Johnston in the pecking order currently.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Ollie on February 04, 2016, 03:21:34 PM
Quote from: beer baron on February 04, 2016, 03:13:06 PM
I wouldn't be surprised to see O' Connor start this weekend. Fed off scraps last week but well able to win his own ball, at one stage last week he went up for a ball,apparently smothered by 2 Tyrone men and came out with the ball. He's dangerous too and i'd say he's ahead of Johnston in the pecking order currently.

Yeah O'Connor is worth a starting place. He's full of determination. Is Dillon fit?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4sam on February 05, 2016, 11:44:20 AM
Not sure what the story is with Dillon, wasn't togged in Omagh. I'd be hoping we have a bit more fire power in the forward line tomorrow and hopefully that means that O'Connor, Johnston and Tom Hayes all get decent game time. Mossy Corr is back after suspension and I think Liam Buchanan should be fit to tog out too which gives greater options around the middle of the field.

I can see pretty much the same back line starting. Mossy coming in at midfield and a couple of changes in forward line.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4sam on February 05, 2016, 10:30:53 PM
Team in Full:
1. Raymond Galligan (Lacken)
2. Padraig Faulkner (Kingscourt)
3. Killian Clarke (Shercock)
4. Killian Brady (Mullahoran
5. Ciarán Brady (Arvagh)
6. Conor Moynagh (Drumgoon)
7. Feargal Flanagan (Butlersbridge)
8. Tomas Corr (Denn)
9. Gearoid McKiernan (Swanlinbar)
10. Martin Reilly (Killygarry)
11. David Givney (Ballymun Kickhams)
12. Dara McVeety (Crosserlough)
13. Cian Mackey (Castlerahan)
14. Eugene Keating (Kilmacud Crokes)
15. Paul O'Connor (Cavan Gaels)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Ollie on February 08, 2016, 09:35:14 AM
Disappointing performance the other night. Terry seems set in his ways by continuing to play the same brand of football which has won us nothing in the last two years. I know there was only a point in it at the end but Derry were the more dominant team throughout. They're physicality and inter-linking play was too much for our team to cope with. I lost count at the amount of times either, Mackey, M Reilly or K Clarke carried the ball up the field but had no options to left or right of them to continue the attack. Derrys swarm defence was too much to deal with. We're in a relegation battle now and its going to be a tough to keep Div 2 status.   
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4sam on February 08, 2016, 10:32:52 AM
I agree with a lot of what you say Ollie. We had a significant breeze to our backs in the first half yet we didn't push up on Derry until around 22 minutes which was too late. Up to that point we only had 2 players in the Derry half.

We need to learn how to transition our defence into attack better and also we need to start kicking point from long distances. It seems we need to inside 30 meters before we have a shot for a point. Take Roscommon yesterday for example, some of the points they kicked against Kerry were excellent and from around 45 meters. If you can kick scores from that range it saves a some of the energy required to work the ball into a scoring position in the more congested areas in front of goal.

I've no idea why the players were going for a goal in the last minutes. Pop the ball over the bar, level the match and see what happens from the next play, if there is one. A draw would have been a good result as Derry were the better team on the night. We have played the 2 teams that came down from Division 1 and not been blown away. At the moment they look like they will be the 2 to go back up. As Ollie says we are now in a relegation battle but I think we should be good enough to pick up enough points to remain in Division 2.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Ollie on February 08, 2016, 12:30:10 PM
If we don't pick up points away to Meath then we're in serious trouble. Fermanagh Armagh, Laois, Galway are all beatable but we'd need to win 4 out of the five remaining games. On the evidence of the last two games that's a big ask.

The most frustrating part is that I think its the strongest panel we've had in a few years. They're just being held back by one dimensional, non-creative tactics.

Also, €15 into a league game? a little steep!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4sam on February 08, 2016, 01:32:04 PM
Only €10 if you buy your ticket the day before
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on February 08, 2016, 06:16:07 PM
Am I the only one who thinks this notion that we are underperforming and that Hyland is holding the players back is an absolute load of bullshit? I see it peddled so much on HS and now I see it on here and I'm beginning to doubt myself.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: beer baron on February 08, 2016, 07:17:43 PM
Quote from: Westside on February 08, 2016, 06:16:07 PM
Am I the only one who thinks this notion that we are underperforming and that Hyland is holding the players back is an absolute load of bullshit? I see it peddled so much on HS and now I see it on here and I'm beginning to doubt myself.

I think people think about them under 21 titles and presume we had a number of superstars in them sides.  Thing is most of them wins were thanks largely to the defensive set up and well drilled hard working sides and not that we had superior footballers to the other sides.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on February 21, 2016, 03:42:36 PM
How gSean Johnson? oes the rehablition of Is he getting a fair outing ?  Don't think he is great sub as he provides little impact?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mrdeeds on February 21, 2016, 03:50:09 PM
Made a good impact of the bench versus Wicklow few years back.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on February 21, 2016, 05:18:44 PM
Quote from: Denn Forever on February 21, 2016, 03:42:36 PM
How gSean Johnson? oes the rehablition of Is he getting a fair outing ?  Don't think he is great sub as he provides little impact?

He's played roughly 20 mins in total. Got 1 point from a 20m free, got 1 yellow and 1 black card. Granted he's probably not up to speed yet.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on February 27, 2016, 11:40:04 AM
Team for tomorrow.  Mcecaybe to introduction of Johnson will force us to ease up a little on our Ultra defensiveness.

Team in Full:
1. Raymond Galligan (Lacken)
2. Padraig Faulkner (Kingscourt)
3. Killian Clarke (Shercock)
4. Jason McLoughlin (Shannon Gaels)
5. Ciarán Brady (Arvagh)
6. Conor Moynagh (Drumgoon)
7. Feargal Flanagan (Butlersbridge)
8. Tomas Corr (Denn)
9. David Givney (Mountnugent)
10. Dara McVeety (Crosserlough)
11. Gearoid McKiernan (Swanlinbar)
12. Martin Reilly (Killygarry)
13. Cian Mackey (Castlerahan)
14. Michael Argue (Bailieborough)
15. Sean Johnston (Cavan Gaels
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on March 01, 2016, 04:10:40 PM
Another tough one on Sunday.  Will Johnson be on from the start as I can see him being singled out for special attention.  Some great romances over shadowed by him  top scoring  e.g.  Moynagh, Falkner, the other Cavan Gaels sub. (based on Notthern Sound commentary)

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Ollie on March 02, 2016, 10:32:10 AM
Good all round team performance in the second half. Great to see that the team is improving match by match. I'd fancy them to get a win against Armagh at home but it won't be easy. Keeping discipline will be key in this game.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on March 02, 2016, 04:08:07 PM
Armagh are a bunch of thugs, they will want the game to descend into a war. The strength of the referee might be the telling factor in this one.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4sam on March 04, 2016, 03:41:08 PM
Terry Hyland & Cavan team management have announced the starting fifteen to line out against Armagh this Saturday in Allianz Football League Round 4. Throw in is 7pm in Kingspan Breffni Park.

Liam Buchanan makes his league debut and lines out at midfield. David Givney moves to the full forward line. The only other change from the team who played in Navan last week sees Killian Brady coming in for Feargal Flanagan at wing half back.
Team in Full:
1. Raymond Galligan (Lacken)
2. Padraig Faulkner (Kingscourt)
3. Killian Clarke (Shercock)
4. Jason McLoughlin (Shannon Gaels)
5. Ciarán Brady (Arvagh)
6. Conor Moynagh (Drumgoon)
7. Killian Brady (Mullahoran)
8. Tomas Corr (Denn)
9. Liam Buchanan (Ballymachugh)
10. Dara McVeety (Crosserlough)
11. Gearoid McKiernan (Swanlinbar)
12. Martin Reilly (Killygarry)
13. David Givney (Mountnugent)
14. Michael Argue (Bailieborough)
15. Sean Johnston (Cavan Gaels)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Duckquay on March 04, 2016, 08:37:55 PM
Will be interesting to see what way we set up looking at that team. Armagh were wiped out at midfield last weekend, I'd expect one of argue or givney to be out around the middle at varying stages.
A big man inside will mean vernon will be forced to sit and mind the house, Armagh could really do with him further out the field. I'd expect a win by 3 plus.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on March 05, 2016, 03:50:51 PM
Come on Johnson. make people (me include) eat our words.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mrdeeds on March 06, 2016, 10:25:20 AM
What a performance last night. Gearoid and Seanie the two stand out performers. Allowing McKiernan the freedom to attack and not worry about defending is a  good idea. Let midfield worry about spade work. Coulf have actually got a couple more goals. Givney looks a lot sharper now and Argue was good too. Galligan is looking more and more like a top class goalkeeper. Ignore the frees, his kickout is top class  and his handling is brilliant.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on March 08, 2016, 01:55:16 AM
It's encouraging stuff from Seanie. I was aghast when he came back because I didn't think he would ever show any capacity to change his ways and knuckle down and be a team player. I thought it was a desperation move from Hyland but from the last two displays it seems Seanie didn't come back entirely on his own terms and is no longer wagging the dog. He seems a changed man that has matured and copped on a lot.

Listened to a recent podcast and the boys were perhaps, I thought, getting a little bit ahead of themselves. There was talk of promotion which is premature I think, and even giddier notions of winning Ulster - but we only beat a very weak Meath team and a struggling Armagh side, so although there are massive positives and many, many reasons to be more cheerful, I'd like to see how we fare against Fermanagh, and particularly Galway, before deciding we have truly turned a corner. Still though, there are very encouraging signs right now.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on March 26, 2016, 09:01:49 AM
It's no secret SJ approached Hyland about getting back on the panel so something mutually beneficial was obviously agreed. Fair play to both of them and time to leave the past in the past.

Other news I heard last night is that James McEnroe is back on the panel which is great if true.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on March 26, 2016, 03:40:11 PM
Quote from: Itchy on March 26, 2016, 09:01:49 AM
It's no secret SJ approached Hyland about getting back on the panel so something mutually beneficial was obviously agreed. Fair play to both of them and time to leave the past in the past.

Other news I heard last night is that James McEnroe is back on the panel which is great if true.

That is fantastic news if true, McEnroe is a beast.

Weather conspiring against us again, a dirty wet day in Breffni isn't what we want. I think we'll have a big crowd at this one, expectation has been building. Although I see the Hoganstand have an article talking up how much we will score against Laois. Never good!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on March 27, 2016, 09:58:05 AM
Laois have me worried,  very unpredictable and have been adjusting their sights on us for two weeks since a creditable display against Derry.
Still though,  if we have any notions of ever doing anything with this group of players this is a game we've simply got to be winning comfortably.  I think we'll do it but we'd do well to be wary here.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on March 27, 2016, 08:46:28 PM
Fairly comfortable win. Seanie's injury is a worry. Hopefully it's not too serious and he'll be back for Championship.

Galligan gave a mixed bag performance today, gave away a few points with poor kickouts to Laois players, also hit some pinpoint kickouts that gave us a platform to attack. Made two big saves that would have let Laois back into the game.
Killian Clarke for me was Man of the Match, he's an outstanding footballer. Faulkner did very well too, did everything right to set up the goal. Jason had a tough day at the Office.
Killian Brady and Moynagh and Ciaran Brady did quite well in the half back line. Ciaran Brady got through a lot of work. Moynagh got through a lot of work but hit a few misplaced passes.
Buchanan and Mossy did ok in Midfield, Buchannan's pass to let Faulker away for the goal was excellent, he doesn't look out of place. Corr as usual gave a workmanlike performance.
McVeety was excellent and was at the core of most of Cavan's good attacking play. Gearoid was a constant threat and chipped in 3 points without being at his best. Martin Reilly got on a lot of ball, got one good point but made some poor errors.
Argue got a couple of lovely points and contributed well in general. Seanie looked dangerous and took his goal well. He will be a big loss against Galway. Givney had a poor first half, got two nice points at the start of the second but a poor display from him overall.

From the subs, Jack Brady staked his claim to a jersey, two fantastic scores from tight angles, one with the left one with the right. Keating gave one of the worst substitute displays i've seen in years, ruined 3 good attacking movements by taking the selfish decision to take a pot shot when we had better options on. Won't be sure of his place on the 26 at this rate.

It's a great opportunity now, Galway are roughly at the same level we are. I think it'll be a very 50:50 game. Hopefully it will be a better day than today, home advantage will be a help and I'd say if it's a decent day there will be a massive crowd from Cavan, Galway won't travel at all.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: comeysfield on April 07, 2016, 12:10:01 PM
Good times are here but Armagh will be seriously peeved with us so tough games ahead !! Great squad performance to get us to Division 1 and a big day out in Croke Park to enjoy. Good to hear Terry after the game saying to stay focused on development and future as Minor and U17 does not look that strong at the moment
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on April 28, 2016, 05:32:55 PM
Fair analysis if the game by Philip Jordan.  Second game showed what we have work to


Phillip Jordan's Irish news article about the 2 games on Sunday.

I too was surprised how open the game was on Sunday and noticed several times we were more worried about getting a sweeper back to mark space rather than pressurising the man on the ball.
Loads of times I noticed Justy and CC running back towards their goal not even watching the play and I thought how the game has changed over the past 5-10 years.

IF YOU were looking to see lots of scores from play in last Sunday's National League finals, you would have put your money on Dublin and Kerry being the providers.

I certainly didn't expect to see Cavan and Tyrone score 1-27 from play. The first-half especially was great viewing and, hopefully, was a sign of things to come during the summer. Victory for Tyrone was important leading into the Championship opener against Derry.

Some of momentum built up during the league had been lost in the final two games against Armagh and Fermanagh, so it was vital to finish the campaign on a positive. As a Tyrone man, a major positive is the continued integration of young players into the team.

Eight of the 21 players used against Cavan have less than two years of experience at senior inter-county level, with six of those part of the U21 All-Ireland winning team last year. One of those, Rory Brennan, has surely nailed down a Championship place. He is playing with far more confidence in his second season and, along with Tiernan McCann, provides real pace to the Tyrone half-back line.

The harder summer surfaces will suit them along with the likes of Peter Harte and Mattie Donnelly, who are key players in Tyrone's running game. Defensively, Mickey Harte won't have been happy with his team in the opening half. They played very deep, allowing Cavan to carry possession and work scoring opportunities closer to goal. The Cavan full-forward line were unable to get into the game, but the better teams will exploit the space further out the field, like Kerry did in last year's All-Ireland semi-final.

The main question mark over Tyrone is whether they can get enough scores to beat the best teams. Connor McAliskey and Ronan O'Neill contributed 1-7 from play between them, yet both were withdrawn before the end. It shows how much the Tyrone system demands of the inside-forwards away from their attacking play, with everyone taking their turn covering back in defence.

The system probably suits Tyrone in that there is little separating the options Mickey Harte has in the full-forward line. McAliskey, O'Neill, Lee Brennan and Darren McCurry are all potential starters. Mickey will hope to get at least one of them on form on any given day to provide the scoring burst needed.

The experience of playing in Croke Park will have been a great experience for this Cavan team. They pushed the team that are fourth favourites for the All-Ireland all the way. After Ronan O'Neill's goal, I expected Tyrone to pull away, but Cavan refused to fold.

Cavan's defensive set-up has been their strength for the last few years and they have definitely improved in their transition to attack. They break out with much more pace, giving them more opportunities to score.

Tyrone are one of the most organised teams, defensively, in the country. Cavan still managed to score 12 points from play and they won't come up against many teams who are as disciplined in the tackle as Tyrone. They got little return from their three big names in attack - Givney, McKiernan (with the exception of his two points) and Johnston were nullified by the Tyrone defence.

Last Sunday didn't provide any major clues as to whether Tyrone can beat the best teams in the country. The size of the challenge they face to be All-Ireland contenders was clear to see watching the Division One final between Dublin and Kerry.

Everything about the game was a step up from the curtain-raiser. There was better ball retention, greater intensity in the tackle and the overall pace of the game was on another level. The Dublin and Kerry game felt like it meant more than most league finals.

There was an edge to the game that you don't normally get at this stage of the year. I get the feeling both teams think the other is the one big obstacle standing in their way of lifting Sam Maguire in September. If they meet later in the year, the rivalry that has been built up between the teams will test the discipline of both.

Dublin's winning margin of 11 points doesn't tell the story of the gap between the two teams. Kerry were right in the game until Paul Flynn's goal. What it did highlight was the major advantage Dublin have over the rest of the teams in the country - strength in depth.

Teams like Kerry, Mayo and Tyrone can conceivably stay with the Dubs for 50 to 60 minutes, but they don't have attacking options of the calibre of Kevin McManamon and Cormac Costello to spring from the bench. Dublin consistently overpower teams in the last 15 minutes due to the sheer quality of their bench.

Aidan O'Mahony's sending-off ended any chances of Kerry winning, as beating them with a man down is virtually impossible. In order to successfully defend an All-Ireland title, you need your best players to retain their form.

However, more importantly, you need some players to take a step forward. Ciaran Kilkenny has been a stand-out performer during the league for Dublin and he was again superb against Kerry. One concern is the form of Diarmuid Connolly, who hasn't got back to the form of 2014, when he was arguably the best player in the country.

The Kerry forward line, which has looked unstoppable over the last few games, struggled for scores. We don't often see a Kerry team being naïve in attack, but their insistence on playing high, hopeful ball to Kieran Donaghy was hard to believe.

I expect these two to meet again during the Championship and Kerry will be much closer when the day arrives. Eamonn Fitzmaurice knows the size of the task in front of him to topple Dublin. He won't want to give away any plans he has in a league final.

Kerry are known for their cuteness and reading too much into this result would be foolish.


Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: comeysfield on April 29, 2016, 12:36:30 PM
Fair analysis on game Cavan have to learn quickly as we can be sure Armagh will have a double sweeper system against us now after last weekend
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Western Blue on April 29, 2016, 06:05:48 PM
Did I hear/read that the Cavan Senior panel are away in Portugal training since the match last Sunday ? Looking forward to the Armagh match at the end of May and hopefully  McDermott and McEnroe will be ready to play.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: comeysfield on May 06, 2016, 11:27:27 AM
Yes lads definitely in Portugal might even be home today
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4sam on May 26, 2016, 11:43:15 AM
Very quiet on here with only a couple of days until the match.

Jason McLoughlin is out and Dara McVeety and Niall McDermott are doubts but from what I've heard both should be ok if selected.

Suppose there are 2 lads that will come into contention here, Niall Murray and Fergal Flanagan with Killian the Gunner moving to the corner. James McEnroe would be another option but I don't think his match fitness would be up to what is required for championship as he hasn't really played any football this year.

At a guess I reckon the team will line out something like this:
1. Raymond Galligan
2. Padraig Faulkner
3. Killian Clarke
4. Killian Brady
5. Ciaran Brady
6. Conor Moynagh
7. Fergal Flanagan/Niall Murray
8. Tomas Corr
9. Liam Buchanan
10. Dara McVeety
11. Gearoid McKiernan
12. Martin Reilly
13. Michael Argue (although personally I'd go for Jack or Mackey)
14. David Givney
15. Sean Johnston

Hopefully whatever team is selected can put in a good performance on the day and we come out with a good result.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: comeysfield on May 26, 2016, 01:44:58 PM
Will be very surprised if he does not start Flanagan and then bring Murray on
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: comeysfield on June 16, 2016, 10:00:15 AM
Any word on McLaughlin is there any chance he will play ?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: skeog on June 16, 2016, 01:10:38 PM
phillip jordan has a good piece in IN today expects tyrone by 5
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on June 22, 2016, 09:55:56 AM
Quote from: comeysfield on June 16, 2016, 10:00:15 AM
Any word on McLaughlin is there any chance he will play ?

This is a strange one. Last week Huland said he had no injury worries yet no McLaughlin on the bench. Anyone know what's going on?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on July 16, 2016, 11:05:01 PM
Shit end to a season that promised much. It all fell apart after the Tyrone draw. The Sean Johnston comeback was as expected, past it when the ground hardens and game speeds up. We are so badly missing forwards it's scary. Derry had Mark Lynch who seems to be able to score from anywhere and we are relying on Gearoid mckiernan. Bit depressed by it all.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on July 19, 2016, 04:22:52 AM
It's ended on a lower note than I expected,  and I didn't even have high hopes before championship. For this year's championship to be even a moderate success we needed to push Tyrone all the way - forget the freak draw where we were outplayed for long stretches - in all games against them this year it has been men against boys. Zero progress. Hyland has had a long time to grow the team to that level or get close to it but clearly can't do it now. He couldn't even reach an Ulster final. He was lucky to retain his post last year so this year was his stay of execution I feel. He's been a sturdy servant who achieved a lot but it's time to get a fresh voice in there to see if there truly is any potential in this team,  because at the moment they're just running to stand still.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: five points on July 19, 2016, 09:52:46 AM
Quote from: cavanmaniac on July 19, 2016, 04:22:52 AM
For this year's championship to be even a moderate success we needed to push Tyrone all the way - forget the freak draw where we were outplayed for long stretches - in all games against them this year it has been men against boys. Zero progress. Hyland has had a long time to grow the team to that level or get close to it but clearly can't do it now.

Utterly unrealistic to expect Cavan, or any other team of their ilk, to morph into a top-4 team overnight.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on July 19, 2016, 09:16:17 PM
Quote from: cavanmaniac on July 19, 2016, 04:22:52 AM
It's ended on a lower note than I expected,  and I didn't even have high hopes before championship. For this year's championship to be even a moderate success we needed to push Tyrone all the way - forget the freak draw where we were outplayed for long stretches - in all games against them this year it has been men against boys. Zero progress. Hyland has had a long time to grow the team to that level or get close to it but clearly can't do it now. He couldn't even reach an Ulster final. He was lucky to retain his post last year so this year was his stay of execution I feel. He's been a sturdy servant who achieved a lot but it's time to get a fresh voice in there to see if there truly is any potential in this team,  because at the moment they're just running to stand still.

Jesus this is the sort of mental shit we see on Hoganstand. The idea that if you play a team 3 times you should be closer to beating them after the third attempt or else you're a poor manager. Tyrone are a better team than us, more skilful, more experienced, more accurate players with Minor, U21 and Senior All Ireland medals in their back pockets. Simple as that.

Sturdy servant my bollocks. He's been an absolutely outstanding servant for Cavan football. Look where Cavan were between 2009 and 2011. Bottom of the barrel, cannon fodder for all but the very worst teams in Ireland. We are now Division 1 and would be realistically confident of mixing it with most teams outside of the very elite. I've talked to a lot of people about Cavan's fortunes this week, lads from Roscommon, Dublin, Galway. Good solid intelligent football men. All equally horrified at the thought that people were calling for his head.

Terry will stay if he can and may only go if he's nudged out the door. We can only hope he manages some of our teams at some level because there ain't too many like him around the county and he may only be truly appreciated once he's gone.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on July 24, 2016, 05:35:39 PM
I get a good laugh out of any lad launching a post by accusing someone of hoganstand standards,  before proceeding to write precisely the sort of over-aggressive, ill-informed warrior posturing that passes for discussion there.

Also in your rush to showcase your high calibre outrage and superior fibre,  you managed to totally misconstrue my point.  Sturdy servant? Great servant? Outstanding servant? Doesn't matter to me so much,  I'd agree with whatever term. Terry has busted his hole for Cavan,  no argument,  but the inference that hard work and dedication is enough to effectively earn him the right to reappoint himself at will, or insulate him against all criticism, is comically  ludicrous in its lack of logic. That's the preserve of guys like Sean Boylan or Harte etc. because of amazing track records and stature in the game. You compiled a list of where Tyrone were superior to us yet somehow neglected to mention the acumen of the men in the dugout because you're probably all to aware that Hyland suffers badly by comparison. Anyway,  most managers would suffer by comparison against Harte but the bottom line is that Terry has had five years (not three games, or overnight like the previous responder decided I meant) to get a team to be somewhere *close* to giving a real game to an opponent like Tyrone. Not victories necessarily. Just show that they're not out entirely of of place on that company. I don't think that's an outlandish ambition with what's regarded as Cavan's most talented complement of players for several generations. Do you? 

I think it needs freshening up or this group of players will slip away without ever truly reaching their potential. I don't know what that potential is exactly but you have to believe it's better than not being able to make a solitary Ulster final appearance, tame qualifier exits most years and only a solitary championship win of real substance and grit against Derry in 2013. You can't expect players to retain motivation if this pattern repeats year on year. Maybe he has a new trick up his sleeve but I doubt it. All that said, if the players are consulted and want Terry retained, then I'll respect that. Because it's possible to disagree with someone or something without being an ar5ehole about it,  you know? That might be the stuff of hoganstand,  but thankfully,  not here so much.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on July 24, 2016, 10:26:19 PM
Quote from: cavanmaniac on July 24, 2016, 05:35:39 PM
I get a good laugh out of any lad launching a post by accusing someone of hoganstand standards,  before proceeding to write precisely the sort of over-aggressive, ill-informed warrior posturing that passes for discussion there.

Also in your rush to showcase your high calibre outrage and superior fibre,  you managed to totally misconstrue my point.  Sturdy servant? Great servant? Outstanding servant? Doesn't matter to me so much,  I'd agree with whatever term. Terry has busted his hole for Cavan,  no argument,  but the inference that hard work and dedication is enough to effectively earn him the right to reappoint himself at will, or insulate him against all criticism, is comically  ludicrous in its lack of logic. That's the preserve of guys like Sean Boylan or Harte etc. because of amazing track records and stature in the game. You compiled a list of where Tyrone were superior to us yet somehow neglected to mention the acumen of the men in the dugout because you're probably all to aware that Hyland suffers badly by comparison. Anyway,  most managers would suffer by comparison against Harte but the bottom line is that Terry has had five years (not three games, or overnight like the previous responder decided I meant) to get a team to be somewhere *close* to giving a real game to an opponent like Tyrone. Not victories necessarily. Just show that they're not out entirely of of place on that company. I don't think that's an outlandish ambition with what's regarded as Cavan's most talented complement of players for several generations. Do you? 

I think it needs freshening up or this group of players will slip away without ever truly reaching their potential. I don't know what that potential is exactly but you have to believe it's better than not being able to make a solitary Ulster final appearance, tame qualifier exits most years and only a solitary championship win of real substance and grit against Derry in 2013. You can't expect players to retain motivation if this pattern repeats year on year. Maybe he has a new trick up his sleeve but I doubt it. All that said, if the players are consulted and want Terry retained, then I'll respect that. Because it's possible to disagree with someone or something without being an ar5ehole about it,  you know? That might be the stuff of hoganstand,  but thankfully,  not here so much.

Well I don't know about your command of the English language but I would have thought most people would realise that the difference between "sturdy" and "outstanding" is fairly significant. You chose to describe him as "sturdy" for obvious reasons, at least have the integrity to stand by it rather than saying that you agree with either.

In your last post you said Terry has had a long time to get this Cavan team to the same level as Tyrone but it's obvious how he can't do in. An incredibly simple, narrow minded way of looking at things. But unfortunately that's the standards that seem to rule in a certain portion of Cavan support.
Now you've been called out on your very thin argument you say that you don't want wins you just want us to give Tyrone a close game... Well we, twice, were beaten by Monaghan (would be Ulster Champions both years) by a solitary point. So surely this would satisfy your shaky criteria for what you want in a manager? Did this not show we're not out of place in that company? Did beating the current Connacht Champions earlier in the year not show that too?
The simple fact is that with people like you no matter where Terry set the bar you would want it higher. No appreciation of the huge amount of challenges and variables in what is being dealt with. No, do things as we've always done them.. Things not going as well as we'd like? Sack the manager. "The Western district way.." as Herc would say.

Finally, dry your eyes and quit whinging about the tone of my post. I will make my point as I see fit and if you think I'm an arsehole, I don't care. I suggest you take the same stance.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on July 25, 2016, 02:26:09 PM
Always my hope for this year was that we'd finally,  after five years of trying,  start to look like we were ready to get at teams like Tyrone etc,  we've matched them at underage so I don't think that's ridiculous. I posted to this effect several times so don't try to imply I'm calling for Hyland's head because we failed to beat or win against the second favourites for Sam. I wanted to see an upward curve,  you seem happy on the plateau, but integrity and all that - stop misrepresenting me.

If you're hung up about sturdy then fine. I think his achievements have been in the sturdy and workmanlike arena whereas his effort and application have been first rate and excellent,  although I didn't in fairness make the distinction clearly in my reply. I like Terry Hyland actually but it doesn't mean I'm blind to his shortcomings.

Getting to within a point of Monaghan, before capitulating to Roscommon I think,  showed the schizophrenic nature of the team. Pushing Monaghan hard was fine enough,  getting humbled by Ross,  I think,  not so much. But you'd look to build on that then by getting closer to the likes of Tyrone this year but possibly we're further back or at best static. I don't think league performances v Galway have any place in a discussion assessing a manager's championship performances but I understand why you'd need to dig there because sadly Hyland's championship impact has only been slight. We no longer look like we're progressing upwards each summer,  even a little. That's why I respectfully offered the opinion that a new man might do better. You disagree. You could say so without all the posturing and accusing someone of mental shit etc. while styling yourself as the crusading font of all wisdom, ironically decrying the original post as characteristic of the hogan stand asylum.  But your tone is your own I suppose.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: comeysfield on July 25, 2016, 04:34:42 PM
We can only really consider alternatives to Hyland if he walks away I can see no appetite to push him as what are the alternatives. We all can see where a load of expensive bluffers get you in Roscommon if Hyland and players believe they can make the championship push. Then there is no one with the desire to push him. At the moment he seems to want to stay so I can only expect he will.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on July 28, 2016, 05:38:01 PM
What do people think of the Minor Manager nominations? I think we need to be careful of appointing Gerry Reilly managers who have had success, it's worlds apart from Ulster Minor Championship. Frank Brady is an interesting one. I thought Monaghan were a bit blessed during that Minor campaign in 2013 but they did go on to win their U21 year also so he obviously had a good team on his hands. Any Drumlane or Kill lads know what he's like?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: comeysfield on July 29, 2016, 02:27:00 PM
Frank Brady is deffinely a curve ball and is interesting think he may have worked with Drung and Swad as well in the past
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on August 01, 2016, 03:09:56 PM
It's vital we get the right people in charge at minor. I can't help thinking we've wasted some good talent at this level in the last few years. We have won the Gerry Reilly U16 tournament now 3 years on a row, beating Dublin each time which has to mean we have the players. Cavan need a 2nd run of success at underage as its my belief we will not win anything at senior level until we unearth some quality forwards and it doesn't matter who our senior manager is.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mrdeeds on August 11, 2016, 10:40:31 AM
Gone quiet on here. Betting suspended on Dermot McCabe. Not the right choice for me.

Also club championship in full swing. Some big shocks last weekend. Lacken showing league form means nothing.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: five points on August 11, 2016, 01:12:13 PM
Quote from: mrdeeds on August 11, 2016, 10:40:31 AM
Gone quiet on here. Betting suspended on Dermot McCabe. Not the right choice for me.


Not a cat's chance in hell of Dermot giving up his Games Development Manager job.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on August 11, 2016, 06:02:31 PM
What on earth has Dermot McCabe done to be considered a possibility!? Would be an awful awful choice. Sincerely hope there's nothing to the rumour.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mrdeeds on August 11, 2016, 09:45:22 PM
Quote from: Westside on August 11, 2016, 06:02:31 PM
What on earth has Dermot McCabe done to be considered a possibility!? Would be an awful awful choice. Sincerely hope there's nothing to the rumour.

Friends in high places.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on August 12, 2016, 07:22:07 AM
McCabe is not the man for the job. Peter Reilly for me is the only viable internal option.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on August 12, 2016, 07:22:00 PM
Agree totally Itchy. Any word on the minor manager decision?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: comeysfield on August 19, 2016, 04:04:04 PM
Sounding like John Brady is the preferred canidate
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: five points on August 20, 2016, 08:24:54 AM
Quote from: mrdeeds on August 11, 2016, 09:45:22 PM
Quote from: Westside on August 11, 2016, 06:02:31 PM
What on earth has Dermot McCabe done to be considered a possibility!? Would be an awful awful choice. Sincerely hope there's nothing to the rumour.

Friends in high places.

What do you mean?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on August 20, 2016, 08:11:18 PM
Quote from: five points on August 20, 2016, 08:24:54 AM
Quote from: mrdeeds on August 11, 2016, 09:45:22 PM
Quote from: Westside on August 11, 2016, 06:02:31 PM
What on earth has Dermot McCabe done to be considered a possibility!? Would be an awful awful choice. Sincerely hope there's nothing to the rumour.

Friends in high places.

What do you mean?

Fairly obvious what he means I think.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mrdeeds on August 20, 2016, 09:22:14 PM
Gaels out.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: five points on August 22, 2016, 12:09:05 PM
Quote from: Itchy on August 20, 2016, 08:11:18 PM
Quote from: five points on August 20, 2016, 08:24:54 AM
Quote from: mrdeeds on August 11, 2016, 09:45:22 PM
Quote from: Westside on August 11, 2016, 06:02:31 PM
What on earth has Dermot McCabe done to be considered a possibility!? Would be an awful awful choice. Sincerely hope there's nothing to the rumour.

Friends in high places.

What do you mean?

Fairly obvious what he means I think.

That Dermot is a clubmate of the county chairman? By that reckoning, Ciaran or Laurence Brady must be in with a shout too.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mrdeeds on August 22, 2016, 02:01:54 PM
Quote from: five points on August 22, 2016, 12:09:05 PM
Quote from: Itchy on August 20, 2016, 08:11:18 PM
Quote from: five points on August 20, 2016, 08:24:54 AM
Quote from: mrdeeds on August 11, 2016, 09:45:22 PM
Quote from: Westside on August 11, 2016, 06:02:31 PM
What on earth has Dermot McCabe done to be considered a possibility!? Would be an awful awful choice. Sincerely hope there's nothing to the rumour.

Friends in high places.

What do you mean?

Fairly obvious what he means I think.

That Dermot is a clubmate of the county chairman? By that reckoning, Ciaran or Laurence Brady must be in with a shout too.

Not that. Someone more influential than that who probably can make a large enough bet for Paddy Power to close the market.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: five points on August 22, 2016, 05:18:19 PM
Why a public betting market ever existed on an appointment where 41 clubs have nomination and voting powers, and a large number of people will have inside information to some degree, is beyond me.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: LaurelEye on August 22, 2016, 06:34:30 PM
Quote from: mrdeeds on August 22, 2016, 02:01:54 PM
Quote from: five points on August 22, 2016, 12:09:05 PM
Quote from: Itchy on August 20, 2016, 08:11:18 PM
Quote from: five points on August 20, 2016, 08:24:54 AM
Quote from: mrdeeds on August 11, 2016, 09:45:22 PM
Quote from: Westside on August 11, 2016, 06:02:31 PM
What on earth has Dermot McCabe done to be considered a possibility!? Would be an awful awful choice. Sincerely hope there's nothing to the rumour.

Friends in high places.

What do you mean?

Fairly obvious what he means I think.

That Dermot is a clubmate of the county chairman? By that reckoning, Ciaran or Laurence Brady must be in with a shout too.

Not that. Someone more influential than that who probably can make a large enough bet for Paddy Power to close the market.

Empire Strikes Back?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Cavan97 on September 08, 2016, 11:30:10 AM
Any word on the relegation problems in Intermediate?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavan4sam on September 09, 2016, 11:44:46 AM
Conor Moynagh and Raymond Galligan were last night named in The Irish News Ulster All Star team for 2016.

Well done lads

https://twitter.com/irishnewssport/status/774018451253891073
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mrdeeds on September 25, 2016, 11:34:48 AM
So we now know our final line up. Castlerahan or Ramor?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on September 30, 2016, 06:01:46 AM
Quote from: mrdeeds on September 25, 2016, 11:34:48 AM
So we now know our final line up. Castlerahan or Ramor?

It's a hard one to call tbh.
Both are strong overall teams with very little if any weak links in their starting line-ups and both have impact subs whom can come on and make a difference.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on October 02, 2016, 05:57:19 PM
Thank you Northern sound. It is the Town end and the other is the Saggy/flaggybottom
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mrdeeds on October 07, 2016, 07:56:13 AM
Any more word on a manager? Declan Bonner and Dessie Farell linked. Not the standard of candidate I was hoping for at start of process.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on October 08, 2016, 07:56:47 AM
Quote from: mrdeeds on October 07, 2016, 07:56:13 AM
Any more word on a manager? Declan Bonner and Dessie Farell linked. Not the standard of candidate I was hoping for at start of process.

Yes,none of the candidates that are left are better than what we had last year. What a mess.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: FermGael on October 08, 2016, 11:25:08 AM
Banty according to the Belfast Telegraph
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: yellowcard on October 08, 2016, 12:20:20 PM
Is that not a sell out from Banty moving to Cavan?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mrdeeds on October 08, 2016, 12:55:05 PM
Quote from: yellowcard on October 08, 2016, 12:20:20 PM
Is that not a sell out from Banty moving to Cavan?

Banty likes bucks. Thankfully it's not nailed on. The Scotstown manager still favourite.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on October 10, 2016, 05:46:04 PM
Scotstown manager will be with Scotstown until they exit the Club Championship... May be a factor.

Banty is an extremely 'meh' appointment and it certainly won't inspire the players from the get go.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mrdeeds on October 10, 2016, 06:04:42 PM
Banty would be am awful appointment. Another cracker in Breffni. The county board's books will be very healthy this year with replays.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on October 10, 2016, 09:06:09 PM
Wearecavan quoting a source close to Banty admitting defeat.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mrdeeds on October 10, 2016, 09:11:24 PM
Colm Keyes said Mattie McGlennan has it.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on October 10, 2016, 09:19:38 PM
It's McGleenan according to his nephew. At least it's not Banty!

So what all do we know about him? Not a fan of an extremely defensive game plan anyway..
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mrdeeds on October 10, 2016, 09:30:33 PM
Had won three Monaghan club championships in four years. Guided Pats Armagh to first Mcrory in over forty years so he has pedigree.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on October 10, 2016, 11:58:41 PM
Don't know much about him but whatever noises I've heard have been positive. He's a rookie at intercounty management level but hopefully he can hit the ground running. There really isn't an awful lot to speculate about until the games start and we get a look at how he sets the team up. Does anyone have any spies around Scotstown?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Tyrone Gaa on October 11, 2016, 09:08:05 AM
Cavan has got a good man in Mattie.  He's an excellent coach, I'm not sure who he has in his backroom team but will need their assistance with the tactical side of things in my personal opinion.  Hope it all works out for you, (apart from against Tyrone)  8)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Blue in hope on October 15, 2016, 09:01:13 PM
Went to relegation play off final in killeshandra earlier. It was the worst refereeing performance I have seen in years. Very lucky no player got badly injured.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on October 30, 2016, 08:39:40 PM
The deplorable state of Cavan club football exposed again today. At least ramor  were somewhat competitive. Sad state of affairs.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mrdeeds on October 30, 2016, 08:53:47 PM
Quote from: Itchy on October 30, 2016, 08:39:40 PM
The deplorable state of Cavan club football exposed again today. At least ramor  were somewhat competitive. Sad state of affairs.

Hopefully the restructuring this year and next can make a difference.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: five points on October 31, 2016, 05:44:22 PM
A restructuring that the affected clubs fought tooth and nail to block. Bless.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on November 05, 2016, 09:40:53 AM
So any word on who is and isn't committing this year. Rumours that Mackey and Givney aren't which is a shame if true. Fergal Flanagan another I heard that's not committing. It's strange to hear this talk after us getting a good draw in Ulster and being back in the top division in the league. Maybe some of our players have a real lack of ambition?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mrdeeds on November 05, 2016, 01:33:38 PM
Or maybe they have real life issues that are more important than football.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on November 05, 2016, 07:44:35 PM
Quote from: mrdeeds on November 05, 2016, 01:33:38 PM
Or maybe they have real life issues that are more important than football.

Maybe.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on November 05, 2016, 08:06:32 PM
Mackey working in London. Flanagan studying for a Masters.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on November 05, 2016, 08:40:07 PM
I'd be more worried about givney. Mackey, although very talented, is almost a distraction as everything has been going through him and he slows it up. We need a ball winner at Full forward and without that we are screwed.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Duckquay on November 05, 2016, 09:14:46 PM
Givney isn't the answer as a ball winner in the ff line. He's an option for breaking long kickpasses hit in his direction but that's about it. I can count on one hand the amount of ball he won out in front in last year's championship. And that's no fault of his, he isn't suited to playing inside. Keating a few years ago was as good as we've had in a long time for a ball winning inside man.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on November 05, 2016, 10:49:12 PM
Quote from: Duckquay on November 05, 2016, 09:14:46 PM
Givney isn't the answer as a ball winner in the ff line. He's an option for breaking long kickpasses hit in his direction but that's about it. I can count on one hand the amount of ball he won out in front in last year's championship. And that's no fault of his, he isn't suited to playing inside. Keating a few years ago was as good as we've had in a long time for a ball winning inside man.

That's not true, did you see any of the league games? Anyway, Keating's problem is his decision making which is brutal.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on November 05, 2016, 11:05:02 PM
Niall McKiernan capable of playing full forward, if he sticks at it. On the training panel.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on November 05, 2016, 11:07:46 PM
What about ray Cullivan and Connor Madden, any sign of them?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Duckquay on November 06, 2016, 09:33:33 AM
I saw all of them apart from the Fermanagh game. I referenced championship though. Not sure on madden but almost certain cullivan isn't surprisingly. He had a good year
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on November 06, 2016, 09:47:59 AM
Maybe Cullivans past of walking of the team when he is not picked is a factor? I'd love to see madden give it a year of commitment to see how he could do but I've heard he has commitment issues.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on November 06, 2016, 10:56:26 AM
Maybe Cullivan isn't interested. He had a good year but not sure if has the mobility for a half forward role in County Football. He is too small for midfield at County Senior.

Over did it on the Gym work, when he was younger.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on November 06, 2016, 11:03:25 AM
Quote from: rodney trotter on November 06, 2016, 10:56:26 AM
Maybe Cullivan isn't interested. He had a good year but not sure if has the mobility for a half forward role in County Football. He is too small for midfield at County Senior.

Over did it on the Gym work, when he was younger.

I was thinking more of him being an option at Full Forward.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on November 06, 2016, 11:07:51 AM
Suppose, but he isn't the tallest of players. Has good strength.

McDermott will be back in 2017, which will be a help. Missed all the Championship and only played in 1 League game.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on November 09, 2016, 01:34:12 PM
Heard Cullivan is back training with the County panel. Martin Dunne as well.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on November 13, 2016, 01:59:32 PM
Very sad news with the passing of Joe McCarthy. A man who put a huge amount into Cavan football.RIP.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mrdeeds on November 21, 2016, 10:52:49 PM
Donal Keogan new manager of Castlerahan. Anthony Forde trainer.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on November 22, 2016, 10:15:31 AM
Cavan will be without a number of influential players in 2017 as new manager Mattie McGleenan prepares them for a first Division 1 campaign in 15 years.

McGleenan has confirmed that David Givney, Cian Mackey, Fergal Flanagan and Eugene Keating will not be part of his squad next season.
Work is to take Givney and Mackey to London, while Flanagan is not in a position to give a commitment either.

Givney and Keating only returned to the squad for the 2016 season, having sat out the previous year.
Givney's influence told in their promotion push and again as they beat Armagh and drew with Tyrone in the Ulster Championship. Flanagan has emerged as one of the county's key defenders.

"There are certainly three, four, five lads from the starting team (in 2016) who, due to work commitments and various bits and pieces, aren't going to be about," said McGleenan.
"That's just life. You have to work, you have to live, you have to get on. The best 15 Cavan men we can find, we'll put them out and it will be their opportunity.

"We can't concern ourselves too much about them (absentees). Maybe later on in the year we might get them back. If any of their circumstances change, there is no doubt we'd be mad keen to have them on board."
McGleenan admitted that being asked if he was interested in the position was something "beyond my expectation"

"I never saw it coming. I was thoroughly enjoying time with Scotstown and for Gerry Brady (Cavan chairman) to ring me and ask me would I be interested in going for an interview, I thought it was an unreal thing."
Division 1 will be a challenge but will be a "great educator."

"It's the place you want to be, playing against the top seven teams in the game," said McGleenan. "If you don't enjoy yourself with that. . ."
McGleenan has retained some of Terry Hyland's back-room team and praised the work that his predecessor did and the legacy he left behind.
Irish Independent
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: skeog on November 22, 2016, 03:12:06 PM
Seems strange saying they may be back,would that not have some fellows insecure for the big games in the summer.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mrdeeds on November 22, 2016, 04:37:58 PM
James McEnroe done something similar this year.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on November 22, 2016, 07:28:55 PM
McGleenan hasn't exactly impressed too much with his media statements so far. You can add the 'We'd be delighted to have them back at any time' statement.

Keating isn't exactly a big loss at this point, he's offered very in the time that he's been there since 2013. Flanagan is a solid player but I think we have depth in that position. Givney is a loss, he completely turned his game around last year. Mackey is the biggest loss of the lot, there's no replacing him really.

Anyone else think it's worrying that this is becoming a trend every year? More worrying still, lads are opting out despite the chance to play the best teams in the country in a league campaign.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on November 23, 2016, 05:48:08 PM
A blow to be losing experienced players. The new players will have to step up to the mark, not easy against Division 1 opposition.

Roscommon have lost a good few as well. Themselves and Cavan will be fighting relegation.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on December 04, 2016, 03:52:35 PM
Cavan beat Kildare by 2 goals in a challenge today. No idea on the team or what team Johnston was playing for ;D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on December 30, 2016, 10:37:07 PM
f**k sake there's no interest here anymore. Anyone hazard a guess at what players might slip into the roles vacated by Givney, Mackey and mckiernan? Is argue ready? Could money go inside? Is Conor Maddrn still on the panel?

Over on hoganstand someone said cullivan was cut from the panel.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mrdeeds on December 30, 2016, 11:49:51 PM
Cullivan was cut. I'd imagine Mackey be back in his own role. He doing all the stuff County boys are in London.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on December 31, 2016, 03:22:02 PM
Quote from: mrdeeds on December 30, 2016, 11:49:51 PM
Cullivan was cut. I'd imagine Mackey be back in his own role. He doing all the stuff County boys are in London.

I thought Mackey was not playing at all this year? When is he intending on playing?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mrdeeds on December 31, 2016, 07:31:22 PM
He be back soon enough I think.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on December 31, 2016, 07:53:45 PM
Quote from: mrdeeds on December 31, 2016, 07:31:22 PM
He be back soon enough I think.

That would be great news. If we got our whole panel back I really think we could make an Ulster final this year and once there who knows.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on January 04, 2017, 05:28:47 PM
That's a good win for the U21s. It's only the Hastings Cup but a 10 point victory over the Rossies any day is a good thing.

David Brady wasn't on the panel, is he injured? Will Ramor's Ulster U21 involvement have any effect on their availability? I see Mickey Lyng, Michael Hannon and Dermot Sheridan are among the backroom team.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on January 25, 2017, 08:57:58 PM
I'm not too optimistic for the league. I think our new manager is naive if he thinks he can push up on the dubs and out shoot them. I see a hammering on the cards. What a shame we have no forwards of the required calibre. Same for u21s, in Hastings cup they were very ordinary in the forwards - can't see them doing too much despite them being talked up a lot. I go forward in hope more than expectation.

Oh and the New Jersey in rotten!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mrdeeds on January 25, 2017, 09:13:31 PM
I like the new jersey.

The Dubs will run through us if we don't come up with a defensive system in the next week or so. Caoimhin O Reilly seems like a forward worth looking at maybe?

Cian Mackey is home and back training. So is James McEnroe.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on January 26, 2017, 05:39:59 PM
 O Reilly probaly wouldn't be involved until the U21 campaign is over. He was involved in the Sigerson yesterday with Maynooth, came on as Sub. McDermott  was with Ul.

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Those stripes on the new jersey look awful.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on January 26, 2017, 06:20:00 PM
It's the friggin stripes, wouldn't be too bad without them. What about a team foot the dubs?

Galligan
Mcloughlin
Dunne
Faulkner
Martin Reilly
Moynagh
Holla
Corr
Clarke
Mcveety
Mckiernan
Gerry smith
Johnston
McDermott
Mackey

2 man ff line, mckiernan 3rd mid, Mackey free role between 2 45s. Wing forwards drop deep and counter
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mrdeeds on January 26, 2017, 06:34:51 PM
 I'd start Fergal Reilly on form. Maybe swap McKiernan and Clarke. Is Galligan fit to play? Also Mackey just back so hardly has full game in him.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on January 26, 2017, 07:30:45 PM
We are going to seriously struggle for scores. Has there ever been a team in div 1 with such a weak forward line?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on January 26, 2017, 07:45:37 PM
Aside from Johnston , who got 3-16 in the League  in 2016
Gearoid McKiernan scored 1-21 in the 7 league games last year, plus 3 in the final. He is missing the first few rounds of the league.
Givney scored 2-5.

After that, the scores were low enough among the rest of the panel.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on January 26, 2017, 07:52:18 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on January 26, 2017, 07:45:37 PM
Aside from Johnston , who got 3-16 in the League  in 2016
Gearoid McKiernan scored 1-21 in the 7 league games last year, plus 3 in the final. He is missing the first few rounds of the league.
Givney scored 2-5.

After that, the scores were low enough among the rest of the panel.

Johnstone a good div2 forward, not up to this level. We will be relying on scorers from deeper positions.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on January 26, 2017, 07:57:57 PM
Mickey Fitzsimmons or whoever will have Johnston in their pocket. Just showing Cavan were reliant on a few players for scores in Division 2. One of the players is not on the panel this year, and the other is currently injured.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on January 26, 2017, 08:23:59 PM
Quote from: Itchy on January 26, 2017, 07:52:18 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on January 26, 2017, 07:45:37 PM
Aside from Johnston , who got 3-16 in the League  in 2016
Gearoid McKiernan scored 1-21 in the 7 league games last year, plus 3 in the final. He is missing the first few rounds of the league.
Givney scored 2-5.

After that, the scores were low enough among the rest of the panel.

Johnstone a good div2 forward, not up to this level. We will be relying on scorers from deeper positions.

Is he the guy that plays with Man City now?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on January 26, 2017, 09:47:37 PM
Quote from: tommysmith on January 26, 2017, 08:23:59 PM
Quote from: Itchy on January 26, 2017, 07:52:18 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on January 26, 2017, 07:45:37 PM
Aside from Johnston , who got 3-16 in the League  in 2016
Gearoid McKiernan scored 1-21 in the 7 league games last year, plus 3 in the final. He is missing the first few rounds of the league.
Givney scored 2-5.

After that, the scores were low enough among the rest of the panel.

Johnstone a good div2 forward, not up to this level. We will be relying on scorers from deeper positions.

Is he the guy that plays with Man City now?

No the lad that we signed from Kildare on a free transfer.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on January 26, 2017, 10:42:27 PM
Quote from: Itchy on January 26, 2017, 09:47:37 PM
Quote from: tommysmith on January 26, 2017, 08:23:59 PM
Quote from: Itchy on January 26, 2017, 07:52:18 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on January 26, 2017, 07:45:37 PM
Aside from Johnston , who got 3-16 in the League  in 2016
Gearoid McKiernan scored 1-21 in the 7 league games last year, plus 3 in the final. He is missing the first few rounds of the league.
Givney scored 2-5.

After that, the scores were low enough among the rest of the panel.

Johnstone a good div2 forward, not up to this level. We will be relying on scorers from deeper positions.

Is he the guy that plays with Man City now?

No the lad that we signed from Kildare on a free transfer.
Oh Johnston i get who you are on about now, couple of handy frees will be the most we will get from him in division 1
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mrdeeds on January 26, 2017, 10:54:10 PM
McDermot looks to be going well. Shot the lights out in Sigerson.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on February 03, 2017, 01:35:28 PM
Team  for Sunday.

Panel in Full:

1. James Farrelly (Kingscourt)

2. Fergal Reilly (Castlerahan)

3. Padraig Faulkner (Kingscourt)

4. Killian Brady (Mullahoran)

5. Martin Reilly (Killygarry)

6. Conor Moynagh (Drumgoon)

7. John McCutcheon (Cootehill Celtic)

8. Killian Clarke (Shercock)

9. Rory Dunne (Redhills)

10. Ciarán Brady (Arvagh)

11. Dara McVeety (Crosserlough)

12. Gerard Smith (Lavey)

13. Niall Clerkin (Shercock)

14. Niall McDermott (Ballinagh)

15. Sean Johnston (Cavan Gaels)



16. Raymond Galligan (Lacken)

17. Jason McLoughlin (Shannon Gaels)

18. Stephen Murray (Cavan Gaels)

19. Shane O'Rourke (Laragh United)

20. Tomas Corr (Denn)

21. James McEnroe (Ramor United)

22. Conor Madden (Gowna)

23. Paul O'Connor (Cavan Gaels)

24. Niall McKiernan (Lacken)

25. Shane Tierney (Lavey)

26. Gearoid McKiernan (Swanlinbar)

Ray Galligan surprise ommission from last year when he played well but I
supose it makes sence to have goalie and full back from the same team.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on February 03, 2017, 03:53:15 PM
Galligan didn't play in McKenna Cup through injury. Farrelly didn't do a lot wrong to be dropped though would expect Galligan to be back in team down the Line. His kickouts are better then farrellys,
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on February 06, 2017, 10:27:18 PM
Galligan's kickouts were hugely important to us last year. He has that ability to just place the ball and stroke it to the man in space 40 metres away allowing us to get on the attack very fast. Farrelly was solid yesterday but his kickouts were ponderous. The most depressing thing about this aspect of our play is that a huge amount of effort had obviously been put into this last year and now it's been abandoned or at least it's not been picked up where it was left off.

There were some positives from yesterday. Our defending was solid against a forward line that are deadly even when they're only in second gear. Faulkner is a wonderful player, it's really puzzling how or why Terry thought it was a good idea to drop him after the league last year.
Gerry Smith again looked good, once he finds his feet at this level he should really add some pace and class going forward. Seanie looked sharp and got a few classy scores. It's the best I've seen him play since he came back. Also great to have McDermott there, stuck his head where you wouldn't put a shovel going for a ball at one stage to win a free.

As for the negatives... There was some shocking decision making and fundamental errors yesterday. We gifted Dublin a few scores as a result. Killian Clarke had a bad day out, shocking tackling and passing/shooting.

I felt in general the team lacked direction and purpose going forward. I can only hope this was because it was Dublin and deep down management knew we weren't going to take anything from the game and decided to play it safe and try to keep the score respectable.
There was no real plan going forward, in the warm up they seemed to be focusing quick movement through the hands. During the game we had a few nice flowing movements but in general there was a reluctance to break the 45. We brought on a few big men and didn't kick in any long balls to them. Niall McKiernan was breaking forward at one stage while Martin Reilly was in the corner back position.

I think the team selection is misguided. We should have a panel of solid, experienced county players at our disposal. Lads that have been doing the conditioning of an intercounty player for years. We finished the game having played 6 players who haven't featured for Cavan Seniors prior to 2017, in our first game in Division 1 for a donkeys' years. It's too much. That said, I don't know the fitness of lads like McEnroe or Argue so maybe management's hand was forced.

I realise that it's maybe not wise to judge a manager on what he says to the media, perhaps the players are very clear on Mattie's intentions and plans and ignore anything he says outside the dressing room. However, from a supporters point of view there is absolutely no consistency in his views/plans/beliefs.
At the start, the League was to be Cavan's aim for the year, retaining Division 1 status was vital. After defeat yesterday we were just using Division 1 as a springboard for the Championship.
After the win against Tyrone if you got the jersey you kept it, put in a good performance and you'll keep your jersey, our best team will be played in every game and you have to work hard to earn a jersey. 9 changes then made for the UUJ game.
We're not playing a blanket defence, we're going to go after Dublin and attack them. 2 men played inside with 13 behind the ball. A certain reluctance to commit players forward.
Shane O'Rourke singled out in an interview as being one player that was absolutely flying in training. I think he was maybe the 4th or 5th sub used? And was subbed for Conor Madden who had came on himself and scored a point (no doubt a big blow to the confidence of a young player making his league debut in a game that was realistically lost at that stage)
The interview after the game didn't fill me with confidence either. Just delighted to be here in front of 16 thousand people, sure isn't it great. And won't next Sunday in Castleblayney be great too, these are the great days we train for, weren't Dublin brilliant. I really don't believe this is the type of attitude that will bring these players to the 'next level'. I want to see the Jim McGuinness/Mickey Harte/Malachy O'Rourke attitude; we don't give a f**k about what anyone thinks of us, we're going out here with our gameplan in place and we're going to kill ourselves to execute it and we're going to do whatever it takes to win.

McGleenan so far looks like a very genial bloke, full of positive energy and kind words for all. The type of guy you'd love to see managing your U-12s. I sincerely hope that underneath there is a dead eyed calculating tactician that is leaving his players in no doubt as to where they stand. It's very early days to be judging his managerial skills and it will take him some time to put his stamp on the team, I don't want to sound like I'm slating him but that's my assessment of how things have gone so far.

Losing to Dublin was fairly inevitable and it was probably wise not to go gung-ho at the game and end up on the end of a serious hammering. Next week the league starts properly for Cavan, I really hope we see more purpose and intent.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on February 08, 2017, 09:04:01 PM
Hopefully Madden gets his confidence back tomorrow in Sigerson. DIT playing McDermotts Ul.

Johnston showed against Dublin he is more then a Division 2 forward. Its teams like Tyrone he struggles against, with their blanket defence. Most forwards struggle against that.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mrdeeds on March 03, 2017, 07:33:31 PM
Breffni hardly be playable tomorrow?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on March 04, 2017, 01:23:40 PM
Quote from: mrdeeds on March 03, 2017, 07:33:31 PM
Breffni hardly be playable tomorrow?

Going ahead after pitch inspection this morning.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on March 04, 2017, 01:53:48 PM
Madden and Argue start.. Presumably looking for more physicality in wet conditions? Great to see Ray Galligan back in goals. Still think there should be room for McEnroe. Having Mackey off the bench is a great option.

If we lose tonight, I believe we will go down.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on March 05, 2017, 12:12:53 AM
Where do we go from here. That's as bad as I've seen in a long time. I want to give the manager a chance but being honest he is coming across as a spoofer with all his positivity nonsense. We were all over the place even before Clarke was harshly sent off. Madden look good in 2nd half when he decided to have a go, Faulkner good too but he is playing fellas in stupid positions. Mcvitty as a corner forward? Faulkner midfield? Dunne midfield? Mental stuff. We are going down now, there is no way back for us now some really unlikely results.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mrdeeds on March 05, 2017, 08:30:36 AM
His substitutions make no sense. Taking of players too early. Emptying bench and leaving yourself in trouble later on. Bringing players on and taking of again. Niall McKiernan not being seen. Midfield is non existent. One week your a forward, next week a back. No consistency in team selections. At least Terry had a plan. I don't know what the game plan is. There were two big lads in full forward line and we didn't kick it in.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on March 05, 2017, 11:05:03 AM
I said it at the time, Terry would only be truly appreciated once he was gone. He had the team playing better than the sum of its individual parts. The players thought the opposite and felt that a new voice could bring them to a new level. Now we're seeing what happens when Terry's steadying influence is gone and we have a guy chopping and changing between games and in games.

I don't feel there's blame to be handed out, we chose the best managerial option available to us. The players are more than entitled to want a new voice. I believe McGleenan took the job for all the right reasons and is doing his best even if some (or a lot) of his decisions are... misguided.

We are going to be relegated to Division 2. The best we can hope for is that we put in a few respectable performances and maybe beat Roscommon, keep the panel together and come up with a decent game plan for Championship.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mrdeeds on March 05, 2017, 11:18:49 AM
Quote from: Westside on March 05, 2017, 11:05:03 AM
I said it at the time, Terry would only be truly appreciated once he was gone. He had the team playing better than the sum of its individual parts. The players thought the opposite and felt that a new voice could bring them to a new level. Now we're seeing what happens when Terry's steadying influence is gone and we have a guy chopping and changing between games and in games.

I don't feel there's blame to be handed out, we chose the best managerial option available to us. The players are more than entitled to want a new voice. I believe McGleenan took the job for all the right reasons and is doing his best even if some (or a lot) of his decisions are... misguided.

We are going to be relegated to Division 2. The best we can hope for is that we put in a few respectable performances and maybe beat Roscommon, keep the panel together and come up with a decent game plan for Championship.

Agree with everything you say.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tierworker blue on March 05, 2017, 12:26:06 PM
Yep, that's pretty much it folks...I think we're all on the same page so far.

We don't have a good shape to us at all, at the minute. OK, it may not always have been pretty betimes over the last few years, but there was a plan and a shape that we tried to stick to. It paid off...we didn't find ourselves back in Div1 by accident. In last year's League in particular (ok, different quality of opposition granted) we looked more tactically prepared and moved forward with purpose. I don't see much evidence of that these days. We have a potentially great back 7 but m/f isn't clicking and there is nothing cohesive about us going up the field, most of the time. The team selections are so erratic and all over the place from week to week.

McG talking the talk, but not walking the walk yet. Everyone deserves a proper chance, and I'll happily be proven wrong, but I'm not convinced by what I've seen from him so far. Hopefully that will change soon. I'll be interested to hear his take on last night. The 'isn't it great to be here...over the moon' schtick has worn very thin with me (and many more!) by now!

The 1st half was a total write off last night...frustrating to see the amount of primary possession and breaking balls lost around the middle. I don't know how we managed to only go in 2 down at the break!
The 2nd half was better, and showed glimpses of potential at times, even if it was fairly obvious that the game was out of reach. We pushed forward better for 20 minutes or so, and got a few nice scores. If we can play like that for 70 minutes, we might be onto something.
Finishing the game with 15 on the field would also be a help...it really is an uphill battle when the opposition have the numbers to play keep ball with, for long periods of time.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on March 05, 2017, 07:57:25 PM
I thought we were awful flat in the 1st half. It was like the players didn't realise the importance of that game. Need to beat Tyrone now to have even an outside chance given that our score difference is really poor now.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on March 07, 2017, 12:56:58 AM
Staying in Division 1 was always going to be a uphill battle, whether it's Terry or McGleenan that's in charge - the difference being we could have struggled with continuity and a well-known clear gameplan under Terry or instead struggle by trying to find a new formula and perform beyond what even Terry achieved. Hard to know who'd have fared better to be honest - it's a hell of a tough division. To be charitable to the new man, it's his first intercounty job in what's a tough environment to register results - but judging by the comments and analysis here, the signs are worrying. You'd look to see some sort of response in terms of results before the league ends, or certainly an upswing in cohesion on the field and a settled, tactical unity with evidence of clear direction on the sideline, because if the Billy-to-Jack swaperoo continues up to the threshold of championship, it could be chastening there too. Either way, Division 1 status was in trouble after failing to beat Monaghan and now it's gone after losing to Donegal which was a home game earmarked for potential gains. We should just focus on playing as well as we can, beat Roscommon if possible and then get things settled before championship, where hopefully the experience will stand to us.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on March 07, 2017, 08:57:44 PM
Quote from: cavanmaniac on March 07, 2017, 12:56:58 AM
Staying in Division 1 was always going to be a uphill battle, whether it's Terry or McGleenan that's in charge - the difference being we could have struggled with continuity and a well-known clear gameplan under Terry or instead struggle by trying to find a new formula and perform beyond what even Terry achieved. Hard to know who'd have fared better to be honest - it's a hell of a tough division. To be charitable to the new man, it's his first intercounty job in what's a tough environment to register results - but judging by the comments and analysis here, the signs are worrying. You'd look to see some sort of response in terms of results before the league ends, or certainly an upswing in cohesion on the field and a settled, tactical unity with evidence of clear direction on the sideline, because if the Billy-to-Jack swaperoo continues up to the threshold of championship, it could be chastening there too. Either way, Division 1 status was in trouble after failing to beat Monaghan and now it's gone after losing to Donegal which was a home game earmarked for potential gains. We should just focus on playing as well as we can, beat Roscommon if possible and then get things settled before championship, where hopefully the experience will stand to us.

Lad - the issue is McGleenan said he was going to have a new attacking strategy. He is in fact more defensive than Hyland ever was. His team is counter attacking with no pace where as Hyland had made progress on this and then then we have the weird positions he is playing players in, subbing guys after 10 mins, putting lads on and taking them off etc. I hope I am wrong but he is coming across as a total spoofer.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on March 07, 2017, 10:33:53 PM
McGleenan was well down the list for the Cavan job. He has no County management experience. He was even shocked himself when he got the job,  said so in interviews.
He would want to get over the shock soon enough and get a game plan
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on March 08, 2017, 12:32:42 AM
I don't think there's any basis for saying it's 'hard to know who'd have faired better' In terms of Terry and McGleenan. Last year Cavan played better than they have done in about a decade. We were consistent, racked up some huge scores despite having no real top class talent (an ageing Seanie doesn't qualify here for me) and in general looked like a very good outfit. This year, apart from one or two individual performers, what can you say has improved or even stayed at the level it was last year?

My fear now is that our confidence is on the brink of shattering. If we go up to Omagh and do anything less than put Tyrone to the pin of their collars, it will be hard to pick up the pieces and we could see a spiral downwards. There absolutely has to be a response to losing that 'must win' game against Donegal.
McGleenan needs to get his shit together and get his match ups and tactics right, the players need to show a bit more guile and cop on.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on March 08, 2017, 02:56:18 AM
Quote from: cavanmaniac on March 07, 2017, 12:56:58 AM
The difference being we could have struggled with continuity and a well-known clear gameplan under Terry or instead struggle by trying to find a new formula and perform beyond what even Terry achieved. Hard to know who'd have fared better to be honest

To clarify what I meant, it's my belief that under either manager we'd have been relegated. Hyland did well to get us into Division 1 but that was his peak and culmination of quite a few years' worth of work, experience and small incremental improvements, with most of those gains coming in the league while practically none were in championship apart from that great win versus Derry in Celtic Park. In other words, he would have really had a much more settled plan going in there so undoubtedly the team would have performed better, for sure, than a rookie manager just three competitive games in, in his first intercounty gig. But under Terry, speculative though it is and just my personal opinion, we'd have been relegated. You can say "relegated better", or "relegated worse" in terms of the performances that put you through the trapdoor but the end result is the same - Division 2. All we can hope is that some short term pain and initial steps backward under Mattie will lead to a healthier overall place than even Terry managed but yep, you guys are right - although it's still way too early to judge, the signs on Mattie are worrying.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on March 09, 2017, 11:26:34 AM
I think Hyland would have targeted the key games and probably kept us up. He was always good at that in the league. We certainly had a more attacking threat last year, despite what the boring old narrative is, and I am talking about countering at speed versus the slow lethargic attempts we see today which are more like Hylands teams from 3 years ago. Its a shame I feel we are about to throw away the progress we made.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on March 09, 2017, 05:01:17 PM
Fergal Reilly, Corr and Ciaran Brady out of the Tyrone game according to the Gaelic life. Along with Clarke suspended,  a few changes from the line out against Donegal.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on March 09, 2017, 11:47:23 PM
Quote from: Itchy on March 09, 2017, 11:26:34 AM
I think Hyland would have targeted the key games and probably kept us up. He was always good at that in the league. We certainly had a more attacking threat last year, despite what the boring old narrative is, and I am talking about countering at speed versus the slow lethargic attempts we see today which are more like Hyland's teams from 3 years ago. Its a shame I feel we are about to throw away the progress we made.

He'd definitely have given it a proper rattle I completely agree, but I also wonder about his record when playing the top tier sides, with Division 1, naturally, being full of them of course. I would argue we are without a win against a team of any real consequence since 2013 when we beat Derry, and since then we have repeatedly come up short when playing any team, league or championship, against whom a win would have represented a real step up and an inarguable signal that we really were ready to be contenders. So while TH would have been a few gears higher and much more cohesive than McG right now, I still feel we'd be going down, especially shorn of players like Givney etc. Hopefully we go down with a bit of fight - and feckit, we're not even gone yet for sure - and the manager having taken a few steps back in order to learn what his best side is and then step forward again. Tyrone this weekend and the nature of the display there will tell a tale.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on March 10, 2017, 03:05:42 PM
I'd go with the following on Sunday, get a few experienced heads back in...

Galligan
McLoughlin
Dunne
Gunner
Smith
Faulkner
McEnroe
Corr
Argue
McVetty
McKiernan
Madden
Mackey
Dillon
N McKiernan

Need to try something different inside. Johnston time has come and gone, he is not up to it and certainly not up to it against Tyrone. Mackey and McKiernan could take it in turns to come out swap Argue in and out.

The backs are decent enough if we stop messing around with them.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tierworker blue on March 10, 2017, 09:45:15 PM
Team for Omagh announced...

1. Ray Galligan
2. Fergal Reilly
3. Killian Brady
4. Jason McLoughlin
5. Ciaran Brady
6. Conor Moynagh
7. Martin Reilly
8. Tomas Corr
9. Gearoid McKiernan
10. Gerard Smith
11. Dara McVeety
12. Niall Clerkin
13. Niall Murray
14. Conor Madden
15. Sean Johnston

Surprised to see Faulkner on the bench...I'd have him in there.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mrdeeds on March 10, 2017, 11:05:47 PM
Quote from: tierworker blue on March 10, 2017, 09:45:15 PM
Team for Omagh announced...

1. Ray Galligan
2. Fergal Reilly
3. Killian Brady
4. Jason McLoughlin
5. Ciaran Brady
6. Conor Moynagh
7. Martin Reilly
8. Tomas Corr
9. Gearoid McKiernan
10. Gerard Smith
11. Dara McVeety
12. Niall Clerkin
13. Niall Murray
14. Conor Madden
15. Sean Johnston

Surprised to see Faulkner on the bench...I'd have him in there.

He was limping at end of match last day.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on March 11, 2017, 10:30:39 AM
Why is McGleenan not starting Dunne at full back. He is Cavans best player for that position. No point sticking them in there when Cavan are relegated.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on March 15, 2017, 06:04:45 PM
Cavan U21 team named for tonight. Looks strong but then again this group have always looked strong but never made any impact. David Brady not in the starting 15 which I find surprising, perhaps he's injured. Interesting to see what Caoimhin O'Reilly can do, he's being touted as a possible addition to the senior squad.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on March 15, 2017, 06:27:38 PM
Brady has been out injured for a few months He broke his leg before Christmas.  Conor Bradley a loss for the u21s, studying in France.  A couple of others not available too. They should get past Fermanagh though.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mrdeeds on March 17, 2017, 09:34:31 AM
Should Cavan not be bringing in the under 21s to train with the seniors at this stage and give them some game time against the best opponents to help development. The u21 competition is soon to be gone and we don't really need another win as a priority. Caoimhin OReilly, Ryan Connolly, Thomas Galligan and maybe Daly. Just my opinion. Anyway whose travelling Sunday? I'll head meself Saturday night to Westport. Not confident at all. Faulkner big loss. Hopefully first half in Tyrone is a sign of some game plan and improvement happening.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on March 17, 2017, 10:28:39 AM
I'm going down. If Cavan really target this game and are 100% up for it they could make a match out of it. Then I am not confident this manager is cute enough and experienced enough to handle these occasions. I'll go up and have a look anyway.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on March 19, 2017, 06:19:05 PM
All credit to McGleenan, I've criticised him thus far but to be fair he got everything right today. Level headed, good use of substitutions, tactics spot on. The team had the right attitude and application and I don't believe they would have shown such composure and cool headedness in the closing stages if that wasn't reflected on the line.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on March 19, 2017, 09:32:34 PM
Fair play to mcglennan, I take it back for now. However playing guys in their best positions had a lot to do with it. Thought mcvitty, smith and of course mckiernan were massive today. It's the shot in the arm we needed, now they have to tear into Kerry. I like seeing us the no 1 article on 9 O Clock news so we need to fight like dogs to stay where we are in Div1
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on March 19, 2017, 10:51:49 PM
Completely agree about the positions point. Players played where they have been comfortable and excelled in the past and it showed. We looked solid and purposeful, something we haven't seen this in the league this year.

Madden did well winning his own ball but he needs to be contributing more on the scoreboard, he's probably the only player that's place is in danger for the next day out. Watching the highlights back, McVeety did brilliantly well for the goal and his points were excellent. Could playing him inside be McGleenan's 'find' of the league? Martin Reilly was also absolutely brilliant, in defence as well as attack.

What I would really like to see now is for Cavan to really go at Kerry. Don't do what we did against them in 2013 or what we did to Dublin in the opening game and stand off and show them lots of respect, as Itchy said, tear into them! Today's result should ensure we get a big crowd in Breffni, Kerry won't travel well. Buzzing for it now.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on March 20, 2017, 08:15:54 PM
Hopefully they can follow it up with at least a performance against Kerry. Killian Young and Crowley picked up knocks against Dublin and out of the Cavan game . They won't have JOD or the u21s, doubtful the crokes players be back either. Cavan shouldn't fear them.

Cavan need to get going from the start, started very sluggish against Mayo ..got a big lift with the goal before half time.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tierworker blue on March 20, 2017, 11:58:07 PM
Great to get a win under our belts...first time in a long auld time that we've scalped one of the 'top' teams.

Going down yesterday, there was plenty of chat around the fact that for the first time this year, we were all happy enough with how the team was lining out. The team selections to date just didn't sit right with anyone and were overly experimental. It was obvious that some experiments were not working and that others didn't get a proper chance at all. We lined out on a more obvious way yesterday and it worked...the proof of the pudding is in the eating and all that jazz!

When Mayo went 5 up, with a strong wind, it looked ominous, but for whatever reason, from then on, they out Cavaned Cavan...endless lateral recycling, no penetration etc etc. Another team would've approached it in a very different manner and it was fairly clear to see what they needed to keep doing, but for whatever reason they didn't! Once the goal went in everyone could smell blood and it is a credit to our lads that they took the opportunity when it presented itself, because we don't always do that.

Of course there are things that could've been better and one swallow doesn't make a Summer, but we've had a lot of negatives to process over the last few weeks, so let's just soak up a wee bit of positivity for a while.

Some great performances...Big G, Rory, Killian (way more at home at 6), Martin and Dara McV all played well, and I thought that Joe D had a good cut to him when he came on. I'd like to see more of him.
That pass from Martin to Mossy was pure sexy...pity he didn't stick it in the top corner!

We've given ourselves a fighting chance of survival, so hopefully we'll go out and give Kerry their fill of it next weekend. In the meantime, have a pint or two, if you're into that kind of thing and enjoy the fact that we've just beaten last year's All Ireland finalists in their own back yard. We have more than our fair share of bad days, so it is important to enjoy the good ones when they do come along!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on March 22, 2017, 12:34:36 AM
Amen to that, TB. Let's hope the upswing continues against Kerry. The Kingdom's league seasons generally follow a pattern every year, one or two surprising results early on, then bestir themselves against their likely championship rivals in the division, before finishing strong to either make the final or avoid relegation or whatever the need is. Point being, Kerry cherry pick and choose their moments to deliver performances and to me are always entirely at their ease and in control of their destiny in Division 1, looking to summer every time. I'd be relying or hoping more for Mayo and Ros to lose their last two games, with the second loss for Ros being to us of course, to help us stay afloat. I can't see us getting a win against Kerry but as long as we are cohesive and solid and come out of it with pride and confidence intact, it won't be so bad. And who knows, maybe they'll have a stinker of an off day and we'll top the Mayo display and win. Even a draw would be a massive point.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on March 22, 2017, 12:16:36 PM
There is still plenty of room for improvement. Don't let the fantastic result cloud the fact that we were very poor in the first 25mins, lacking confidence and countering very slowly. The goal before half time gave us great confidence and everything was different thereafter. A bit like against Meath last year, could that be a turning point in the player mentality? Also McGlennan put players where they should be playing and stopped messing around so much which I think the players responded to.

For me its the same formula next Sunday. Frustrate Kerry, break at speed and tear into them. I have a feeling we will need to get something out of this game as Mayo will probably win one of their last two. No point holding anything back, they have to go for it. If we could stay up it would be a tremendous achievement.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on March 22, 2017, 05:34:16 PM
Our discipline in the tackle was also fantastic last week I thought. I think Kerry will set up to mirror our style of play and they'll be confident they have the better forwards when it comes down to it. We would need a monster effort to get a result. Anyone know if this game will be on TV? Not sure if I'll make it down to Breffni.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on March 22, 2017, 07:53:06 PM
Maurice deegan is the referee. I predict 100 frees, cynical fouls unpunished and no cards
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on March 23, 2017, 05:48:18 PM
Donegal will be a tough test for the U21s. They made the Minor All Ireland final in 2014, 4 or 5 of them making a big impact on the Senior team along with a few others. Cavan have the bit of advantage of having played there in Brewster Park in the previous round.

Bonner speaking after the game.

http://www.google.ie/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=8&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwjunqHYlu3SAhXlJMAKHQ9qDdwQqUMINDAH&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.highlandradio.com%2F2017%2F03%2F22%2Fdeclan-bonner-proud-of-donegals-second-half-performance-in-ulster-win-over-tyrone%2F&usg=AFQjCNG7maDKfYLKYqDGgTpbDkELFkVHjQ
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mrdeeds on March 23, 2017, 07:18:59 PM
Our seniors made hard work of them never mind our u21s.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on March 23, 2017, 08:36:46 PM
In the Ulster U21 in 2011 Tyrone went to a replay with Down to get into the final, they looked like a seriously formidable side, All Ireland winners at Minor level, battle hardened from the replay etc. We still beat them in the final, so we shouldn't buy into the hype too much.

That said, we're coming in off the back of cakewalk against Fermanagh and a lot of these lads have been playing Senior Intercounty Football this year. These Cavan players individually look very talented but have failed to perform at Minor and U21 level so far. So it's a big test of them and Niall Lynch and his management team. An Ulster Final would be a huge shot in the arm and might uncover a couple of players for the Senior Squad for the summer. Really interested to see how Caoimhin Reilly, Thomas Galligan and Conor Bradley (presuming he will play some part at least) get on, three bright prospects and this sort of game will probably be the toughest environment we'll have seen them in at county level.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on March 26, 2017, 07:07:39 PM
I was very critical of McGleenan but to be fair, he's got his shit together. I know it's not sensible to be 'celebrating' a draw against Kerry and our ambitions should be higher but when Sheehan got his last score you'd have taken the hand off someone if they offered you the draw. I think it was a point gained. Our shooting and shot selection is still not really good enough for this level.

Staying up will need the stars to align in our favour. Whether we deserve to stay up even if we beat Roscommon is questionable but we certainly don't belong in Division 1 if we can't beat this Roscommon team at the moment. Beat them and if the other results somehow happen to go in our favour, fantastic. If we beat them and still go down, it will be a tough pill but the general feeling will still be good. If the ultimate anti-climax happens and we lose... The shine is taken off our battling end to the league in a big way.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on March 26, 2017, 08:47:08 PM
 The defence was very good today like the Mayo game.Moran was on top around the middle for most of the game. Gearoid  Mckiernan didn't have as big an influence today. Mackey very good when introduced,  class ball for mcveetys goal. He has good composure. McDermott kicked 2 good frees and made a great catch for the last score . All the subs made an impact.

Roscommon might have lost all 6 games so far, but they played well in their homes ganes, lost to donegal by 1pt, and kerry only pulled away in the end. Their defence is useless but they have better forwards then Cavan. Mayo likely to get a lift from the win today and get something from the donegal game.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on March 26, 2017, 09:35:31 PM
Don't think Donegal will be too bothered about beating Mayo unfortunately. What we learned today..,

- we are very solid defensively when we play players in correct positions
- McKiernan is good but was destroyed by Moran today. He needed help, Corr wasn't able to give anything.
- mcvitty in ff line is lethal
- mcvitty also needed out the field, we need to clone mcvitty
- team do not look fit to me
- great fight and heart shown today, can't train that
- Mackey is needed back fully fit, made a huge impact coming on
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on April 02, 2017, 11:15:26 PM
The performances against Mayo and Kerry undone after that diaplay today. Though they over hyped the win in Mayo.

Cavan didn't 't play like a team needing to win the game. They might have took Roscommon for granted because of their league form. They don't fear Cavan ,and have have had the upper hand for a good while.  Cavan need to find 1 or 2 scoringr forwards.  Maybe the u21 might be able to step up.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on April 03, 2017, 01:55:18 PM
Cavan also need a manager with some cop on. I was disgusted with what I saw on Sunday. You are playing a team with a poor defense and a poor midfield but decent scoring forwards. A team very low on confidence. We allowed them to kick the ball out short and run 2/3 of the field unopposed until the get to our 45 where their most dangerous players reside. Not only that but we stuck with this ridiculous tactic until there were only 5mins left and we were 4 points down. Why not push up on them, force them to kick long and beat them at midfield and attack when it is 6 on 6, like Kerry did to us???

Then we had the moving of players, dropping of players and leaving guys on the field that were doing nothing. You get a team starting to come into shape and form and then start messing with it again. We also had players like McKiernan and Martin Reilly who yet again on the big day went missing.

The whole thing was terrible, I have very little confidence in this team to beat Monaghan in the Ulster championship.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on April 03, 2017, 03:11:35 PM
Taking off Dillon for Clerkin made no sense. A like for like player. Dillon was doing grand, with the limited amount of ball he got.  He made a brilliant catch in the first half, took a decent score.

The League is starting next weekend,  they may keep an eye on Keating now he is back playing with Cuchullains.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mrdeeds on April 03, 2017, 04:13:47 PM
Keating is not committing even though back playing club football. I'd be looking at our u21 midfield Wednesday plus Bradley and Caomhin O Reilly.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on April 03, 2017, 07:49:03 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on April 03, 2017, 03:11:35 PM
Taking off Dillon for Clerkin made no sense. A like for like player. Dillon was doing grand, with the limited amount of ball he got.  He made a brilliant catch in the first half, took a decent score.

The League is starting next weekend,  they may keep an eye on Keating now he is back playing with Cuchullains.

Clerkin and Dillon like for like?? Jaysus Rodney they're nothing alike.

We're all looking towards the U21s but if McGleenan was to throw in an U21 for his Senior Debut in an Ulster Championship game it could go horribly wrong. Plus, we'll get to see what this dangerous forward line is really made of on Wednesday night.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on April 03, 2017, 07:54:33 PM
Quote from: Westside on April 03, 2017, 07:49:03 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on April 03, 2017, 03:11:35 PM
Taking off Dillon for Clerkin made no sense. A like for like player. Dillon was doing grand, with the limited amount of ball he got.  He made a brilliant catch in the first half, took a decent score.

The League is starting next weekend,  they may keep an eye on Keating now he is back playing with Cuchullains.

Clerkin and Dillon like for like?? Jaysus Rodney they're nothing alike.

We're all looking towards the U21s but if McGleenan was to throw in an U21 for his Senior Debut in an Ulster Championship game it could go horribly wrong. Plus, we'll get to see what this dangerous forward line is really made of on Wednesday night.

Like for like as in the same build, which they are. Dillion is a better ball winner. Niall McKiernan was  the obvious sub to put on. Some height and more of a finisher then Clerkin
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on April 03, 2017, 09:01:50 PM
Thought Dunne was very poor at full back, miles off his man. Thankfully his man hadn't the brains to turn and run at him. His effort for their goal was shocking bad, not even looking at the Ball. Seems to me McGlennan is worried about midfield as he keeps switching Clarke in there. What I don't understand is why he is so worried as he is conceding half the pitch to the opposition so everyone ends up inside the 45 anyway. Madden was a player that has done well and was reduced to coming on with 5 mins left. I just don't know what he is at.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on April 08, 2017, 09:35:04 AM
Terrible show against Donegal last Wednesday. I know they are an excellent team and maybe we would never beat them but for God sake we should not be getting thrashed out the gate like that. Two years in a row this management team have not delivered, time for a change there for U20 next year. I say put Hyland in there again if he would do it. It looks like we have a decent minor and u17 team coming through, they need the right man to work with them.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on April 09, 2017, 03:18:49 PM
When the U21s lost last year Lynch gave it the "well we didn't have the access to the players until late on and, and this is no excuse.." said he, making an excuse "we always would have had one eye on next year with this squad of players" I thought it was bullshit to be coming out with at the time and it looks even worse now after that hammering. He's had his chance, time to move on.

The funny thing is, there seems to be some very good individual talent in the team. Or am I being guilty of the typical Cavan overrating? Be interesting to see if McGleenan drafts any of them in.

Hyland taking over the U20s would be the best possible scenario. Although I would fear that there would be an element who would think that it would be a step backwards (the same people who couldn't see improvement in Cavan Seniors since 2013)

What's the story with the Minors, they're into a League Semi Final is that right? I hear that the whole U17/Minor thing is being treated very differently by different counties and as a result Cavan have delivered some hammerings. It'll probably be a different ball game come Championship but if we have our house in order before the rest of Ulster we could have a good chance of making progress.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mrdeeds on May 16, 2017, 04:30:27 PM
McVeety out of Monagahan game. Two Murrays are doubts.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Duckquay on May 16, 2017, 10:38:28 PM
No county players playing this weekend in what was meant to be the last round with them before the monaghan game. A joke.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanlad on May 17, 2017, 11:40:31 PM
Email sent out tonight
Due to concerns over the  growing number of injuries within the County Senior Panel and the unavailability of a significant number of County Players to there Clubs at the present time, this Saturday's ACFL Fixtures have been postponed.

Club not affected who wish to proceed may do so once agreed by both Teams.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mrdeeds on May 17, 2017, 11:54:35 PM
Injuries are a reality of football. I've heard the County Training has gone way up in intensity and recent weeks and a lot of hamstrings have went. That shows that the training is not fit for purpose and  clubs are the ones being punished.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on May 20, 2017, 07:36:45 PM
If McVeety is out it's a massive blow. Of all the things Mattie tried, McVeety as an inside forward was the stand out success.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on May 20, 2017, 11:15:29 PM
Monaghan were very flat today for 50/60% of the game and then when the upped it a bit they blew Fermanagh away. They have some real scoring power. It sickens me to say it but I cannot see how Cavan will beat them in a game they will surely be up for.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mrdeeds on May 21, 2017, 12:11:24 AM
Their bench today was very strong. Might be tight but that will probably finish us of.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Duckquay on May 21, 2017, 06:20:03 PM
Challenge game next weekend will give some ideas as to team selection. I can see mcgleenan pulling something different out of the bag for Monaghan if his scotstown days are anything to go by.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mrdeeds on May 21, 2017, 07:42:09 PM
Who the challenge game versus? Surely there a risk of injury in a challeneg game. Our players will be four weeks without competitive football before Monaghan game while they've played already.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on May 24, 2017, 06:31:04 PM
Cavan chose not to field a team in the Leinster Junior Championship against Wicklow. Anyone have any idea why? It's a good opportunity for decent club players or fringe senior players to get a run out in a Cavan jersey and you'd have to imagine we could put together a team to beat Wicklow fairly easily.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: five points on May 24, 2017, 07:38:06 PM
Probably to do with money. With the hurling team now competing again, senior team expenses will go through the roof this year.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on May 25, 2017, 02:27:27 PM
Or injuries. They cant very well go cancelling club games because on an injury crisis and then go playing county fringe players in a Leinster Junior Championship.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: gortnaleck on June 01, 2017, 04:00:30 PM
Hey Westside Are Cavan putting out a team against Monaghan at al
No word coming out
Going to head over. Any way into stand
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rabbit on June 08, 2017, 11:48:27 AM
Will Dara McVeety be fit? Who else is injured and likely to miss the game?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on June 11, 2017, 08:35:16 PM
A depressing day in Kingspan Breffni lads....

That U17 display is the worst display I have seen from a Cavan team in a long time. I know they're only gossons but christ. And John Brady has to take a serious dollop of blame there. I've been chatting to a couple of the lads on the Minor and U17 teams and there is no gameplan. It's show them the skills and tell them to head out and play. All well and good until you come up against a well drilled side and ship a beating like today. The minors will almost certainly fall to the same problem. It's grand saying that we will develop better players if we don't have them sticking to a strict defensive plan but there's surely a happy medium.

As for the Seniors, it was a good game. They're committed and they're game but there's a few weak links in the team and a lack of leadership when the going gets tough. If the players don't check out mentally, there's a run in the qualifiers there for them. Give the new lads on the panel a good run and see if there's one of them we can stick at no. 15 to get us a few points a game.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mrdeeds on June 11, 2017, 09:07:24 PM
Playing defensive with the wind was shocking game management.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on June 11, 2017, 09:19:17 PM
Quote from: Westside on June 11, 2017, 08:35:16 PM
A depressing day in Kingspan Breffni lads....

That U17 display is the worst display I have seen from a Cavan team in a long time. I know they're only gossons but christ. And John Brady has to take a serious dollop of blame there. I've been chatting to a couple of the lads on the Minor and U17 teams and there is no gameplan. It's show them the skills and tell them to head out and play. All well and good until you come up against a well drilled side and ship a beating like today. The minors will almost certainly fall to the same problem. It's grand saying that we will develop better players if we don't have them sticking to a strict defensive plan but there's surely a happy medium.

As for the Seniors, it was a good game. They're committed and they're game but there's a few weak links in the team and a lack of leadership when the going gets tough. If the players don't check out mentally, there's a run in the qualifiers there for them. Give the new lads on the panel a good run and see if there's one of them we can stick at no. 15 to get us a few points a game.

John brady should be kept away from them kids. With the game lost and 6 mind left he put Keoghan back in despite him having come off injured earlier,. He is likely to feature on minors. He also took off a sub he'd put on with 30 seconds left. Clearly he is an idiot.

Seniors just not good enough. Johnston a passenger likewise a few others. Galligab kick outs very poor as was moybagh. Between them prob cost us 4\5 points
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: delgany on June 11, 2017, 09:59:20 PM
It is evident that Galligan is not a goalkeeper. His positional  play is that of an outfield player...which he clearly seems to be 
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on June 11, 2017, 11:34:29 PM
Yeah putting Keoghan back on seems stupid. The game was long over, it's embarrassing and disheartening for the rest of the subs. Give them a run out, the game was long gone.
I can only presume that this is a conscious decision by the County Board, the last Minor Management Team prided themselves on not playing sweepers etc too. You'll win the odd brilliant game like the Minors did against Monaghan but I think that's the exception not the rule. Counties like Donegal and Tyrone will eat you up if you don't go in with a plan to beat them. There's no point in having decent young players who can play off the cuff if they're sitting at home or shipping 20 point beatings. There's a balance between allowing lads to express themselves and being tactically prepared and we're not finding it at the moment.

Moynagh was, as usual, a mixed bag. Some brilliant play mingled with trying too hard to pull off something outstanding and having it backfire. I wouldn't be too harsh on Galligan, he made a couple of errors but made one outstanding save, hit some good kickouts when Monaghan had pushed up and put us under pressure and dealt well with a couple of high balls. He's as good a keeper as has played for Cavan seniors in a long while in my opinion.

We weren't bad today by any means but I think we were a better side in 2015 and a much better, more organised and focused outfit in 2016.

We need to come up with something to combat our weaknesses up front. Stick McVeety in there and make him into a corner forward. He's strong and he's fast and he can shoot. Give Galligan and Caoimhin Reilly a go in there too and see how they fare out.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on June 12, 2017, 11:34:54 PM
Time for Mattie to give our young forwards a chance now in back door. I'd let madden back in and give him a fair chance. He's been treated poorly this year and I hope he sticks with it and shows people what he can do. Get Connolly and o reilly from the bridge on earlier. Give Buchanan a right shot at midfield too.

Galligan ( just about)
Fergal reilly
Clarke
Murray
Gerry smith
Faulkner
McEnroe
Buchanan
Mckiernan
Connolly
Mackey
Martin reilly
O Reilly
Mcvitty
Madden
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mrdeeds on June 22, 2017, 11:12:39 PM
McLoughlin and McVeety in. Murray and Madden out.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on June 22, 2017, 11:58:24 PM
Anyone read Alan o Mara piece in the celt. Doesn't sound impressed with mcglennan message at start of year versus what he actually done. Wonder are other players thinking the same. At least that was something to read anyway, no preview of Sunday's game or the minor semi which is pretty poor.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mrdeeds on June 23, 2017, 03:54:58 AM
Saw Alan on about it on Twitter and it was liked and retweeted by ex players.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on June 24, 2017, 07:55:45 PM
Ah would Alan quit talking shite. We racked up huge scores in the league last year, spread of scorers was massive, the players then wanted Terry gone. They were promised they were going to be 'driven like a Ferrari'... Well if there's some Ferraris floating around Cavan they haven't been seen either at underage or since they graduated to the senior team (Gearoid being the only exception) Is his drive for self promotion bringing him down the Ger Loughnane route?

Savage stuff from the Minors today by the sounds of things. Second time in a row they've recovered from a bad start to win. Anyone at the game to give a report?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on June 24, 2017, 10:00:16 PM
Quote from: Westside on June 24, 2017, 07:55:45 PM
Ah would Alan quit talking shite. We racked up huge scores in the league last year, spread of scorers was massive, the players then wanted Terry gone. They were promised they were going to be 'driven like a Ferrari'... Well if there's some Ferraris floating around Cavan they haven't been seen either at underage or since they graduated to the senior team (Gearoid being the only exception) Is his drive for self promotion bringing him down the Ger Loughnane route?

Savage stuff from the Minors today by the sounds of things. Second time in a row they've recovered from a bad start to win. Anyone at the game to give a report?

Wasnt at the game due to other commitments but listened on radio. Seemed like yet again very tactically naive and again poor discipline in 1st half but the individual class of Smith in midfield who got something like 8 marks and general never say die of the team got them over the line. Also young Curran from swad didnt play and he should be back for the final. I think Derry will probably be too tactical for us in the final but you never know with young lads. Maybe we need fellas that will just go out and play 1 on 1 and see where it takes us.

O Mara I am not sure about. I think we are regressing into a very negative style this year and the manager shouldnt have been talking shite at the start of the year about attacking being what he likes to do and then go ahead and do the opposite. I can see why players would be pissed off. However we dont have a player set to play that expansively so defend in numbers and pacy counter is our only way to success at the moment. The problem is the current manager has us countering at snails pace.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mrdeeds on June 24, 2017, 10:10:28 PM
Watching Down they had an outlet to kick to in full forward line. I can't help but think Dillon should be ours.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on June 25, 2017, 12:28:08 AM
To be fair to John Brady, and I slated him after the U17 final, he does seem to have assembled a team that can score themselves out of a tight spot. I listened on the radio too and Mickey Hannon joined the commentary 20 minutes in or so and Damien laughed telling him he made a mistake taking the lift up. Very keen to see this midfield in action, heard great things about them and Smith sounded like he was outstanding today. The big thing is that we have 2 games now, win one of those and you have made big progress, either an Ulster title or an AISF. Ruairi Curran is still going to be a doubt for the final from what I hear, he would be a great lad to have back.

I have a problem with the general attitude that is the undertone of that article. The 'serious underage talent' is there and it's management holding us back.... again. Give over Alan ffs. You won one Ulster title and the team averaged about 13 points per game. The lads following up that win with 3 more were in the same mould for the most part. The forward units were ultimately limited ability-wise and that's showing on our senior side. Hyland was getting the very best out of the attack for the last two years, McGleenan is down players from that forward unit and is more inexperienced. Let's not turn this into another witch hunt for the manager. Paul Fitzpatrick should have had more wit than to publish that article IMO.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on June 25, 2017, 12:31:57 AM
Quote from: mrdeeds on June 24, 2017, 10:10:28 PM
Watching Down they had an outlet to kick to in full forward line. I can't help but think Dillon should be ours.

Agreed. Would love to see him get a proper run as a full forward. Strong and skilful and has that extra bit of testicular fortitude that our other inside forward options lack.

Also, can anyone make a case for Clerkin being an automatic choice for Cavan every game? Am I missing something?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mrdeeds on June 25, 2017, 12:37:59 AM
Quote from: Westside on June 25, 2017, 12:31:57 AM
Quote from: mrdeeds on June 24, 2017, 10:10:28 PM
Watching Down they had an outlet to kick to in full forward line. I can't help but think Dillon should be ours.

Agreed. Would love to see him get a proper run as a full forward. Strong and skilful and has that extra bit of testicular fortitude that our other inside forward options lack.

Also, can anyone make a case for Clerkin being an automatic choice for Cavan every game? Am I missing something?

It's hard to make a case for him to be part of match day panel in my opinion. But for some reason managers the world over always have blind spots to certain players. Good runner but won't beat a man with skill and kick a point.

Johnson not the answer anymore either. Would love to see Madden given run in there rather than on 40. Thought against Mayo he won great ball but his shooting was of.

As for minors I heard Derry are very good. Think going man for man is naive and would fear a repeat of u17 experience.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on June 25, 2017, 12:44:49 PM
I think madden has been harshly treated especially when you look at some others like Johnson who never even took a shot at the posts from play in 70 mins. Madden we need for the future, Johnson day is done. I'd gave preferred to see young lads in the forwards to brighten it up a bit, put Connolly and o reilly in there and see what they can do. Alas I expect another all out defend, snail pace counter attacks and probably a win by 3/4 points.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mrdeeds on June 25, 2017, 08:21:15 PM
Clerkin managed to play the whole game again. Jesus wept. McEnroe was poor in first half but swapping with Faulkner steadied ship. Seanie not suited to summer football. McVeety didn't get into game. Mackey quiet first half but kick passing in second half good. Gearoid can always do it against poor teams. Galligan made good impact. Buchannan two good points but carrying too much timber. Poor game. No intensity and riddled with errors.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on June 25, 2017, 11:42:59 PM
As someone who travelled, does anyone have any idea what the hell is our manager trying to do tactically. I was bamboozled by the positions. Looked like Martin reilly was midfield for half the game. Macketvwas corner forward, wing forward, wing back and midfield. Johnson played midfield again, looked disinterested and was subbed. I even witnessed Niall McDermott at centre back at one point. Galligan cost us 2 if not 3 points with more wayward kick outs. Mckiernan put up a decent score but I expect more from him in general play. McEnroe was good when he came out to half back line as were Gerry smith (contender for point of the season) and Ciaran Brady. A win is a win but manager needs to sort out whatever the hell he is trying to do as no one in the stadium, including the players, seems to know what is going on.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on June 25, 2017, 11:51:20 PM
Not a bad game, lacking in quality but entertaining for sure. Not too bothered how we get there at the moment as long as we get over the line. Don't think we ever looked like losing it and it's probably better from a mentality point of view to scrape over the line than beat them out the gate. Few thoughts on the game:

-Our shooting and in particular our first half shooting was awful and only for Gearoid, it could have put us in real trouble. Just a lack of quality.

-Our midfield got absolutely decimated. Hugely worrying as this happened throughout the game and we continually kicked it long. Martin Reilly and Mackey competing under high hanging kick outs from our own keeper. It's not good enough if we have ambition to get a run in the qualifiers. We had a very obvious very effective kick out strategy last year, where has it gone?

-McEnroe was a mixed bag, some brilliant tackles and dispossessions mixed with some sloppy play. Ciaran Brady had a very good second half and should really be starting. Gearoid got the scores without putting in a dominating performance. Buchannan was fairly quiet but popped up with two lovely scores. Gerry Smith was decent and scored a fantastic solo point burning through the centre to pop it over, you'd have to wonder why a guy with his speed doesn't do it more often. McVeety was quieter than usual.

-Cian Mackey, the leader and go to man on this Cavan team. The going was tough in the second half and Mackey drove us forward time and again, carried ball, drew fouls, picked out wonderful passes. He was fantastic. He's not appreciated enough.

-We looked comfortable in the second half even when Offaly were coming back at us and were still playing relatively well it always looked as though we had the measure of them and would get the scores we needed. It was a professional enough job by Cavan which is all we want from these games.

-Management decisions were, as usual, perplexing. When I saw Connolly coming on early in the game it seemed blatantly obvious to me and the lads around me that Clerkin who had kicked 3 wides and being been dispossessed would be taken off. Instead Johnston was taken out and Clerkin, who things didn't get an awful lot better for, was still on the field at the final whistle. For a manager who was only too happy to haul Conor Madden off early on a few occasions including when he had just put him on, it seems bizzare.
Clerkin to his credit won a few balls in the second half inside but in general he was hesitant to shoot, was unable to break the tackle and just seemed out of his depth.
Gerry Smith was taken off right after he scored his wonderful point, Moynagh was subbed while playing fairly well straight after picking up a yellow. Try as I might, I don't see the logic in a lot of the decisions.

-Ryan Connolly was introduced early, he didn't really make much of an impact but he was game, he won the ball out in front at one stage, burned his man on the outside for speed and got his shot away. Clerkin and Johnston our starting corner forwards can't do that. Give him time and I think he could be a good player for us.
Thomas Galligan was introduced after Mossy got a farcical black card. He looked a bit nervous but played well and got stuck in.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mrdeeds on June 25, 2017, 11:56:43 PM
Quote from: Westside on June 25, 2017, 11:51:20 PM
Not a bad game, lacking in quality but entertaining for sure. Not too bothered how we get there at the moment as long as we get over the line. Don't think we ever looked like losing it and it's probably better from a mentality point of view to scrape over the line than beat them out the gate. Few thoughts on the game:

-Our shooting and in particular our first half shooting was awful and only for Gearoid, it could have put us in real trouble. Just a lack of quality.

-Our midfield got absolutely decimated. Hugely worrying as this happened throughout the game and we continually kicked it long. Martin Reilly and Mackey competing under high hanging kick outs from our own keeper. It's not good enough if we have ambition to get a run in the qualifiers. We had a very obvious very effective kick out strategy last year, where has it gone?

-McEnroe was a mixed bag, some brilliant tackles and dispossessions mixed with some sloppy play. Ciaran Brady had a very good second half and should really be starting. Gearoid got the scores without putting in a dominating performance. Buchannan was fairly quiet but popped up with two lovely scores. Gerry Smith was decent and scored a fantastic solo point burning through the centre to pop it over, you'd have to wonder why a guy with his speed doesn't do it more often. McVeety was quieter than usual.

-Cian Mackey, the leader and go to man on this Cavan team. The going was tough in the second half and Mackey drove us forward time and again, carried ball, drew fouls, picked out wonderful passes. He was fantastic. He's not appreciated enough.

-We looked comfortable in the second half even when Offaly were coming back at us and were still playing relatively well it always looked as though we had the measure of them and would get the scores we needed. It was a professional enough job by Cavan which is all we want from these games.

-Management decisions were, as usual, perplexing. When I saw Connolly coming on early in the game it seemed blatantly obvious to me and the lads around me that Clerkin who had kicked 3 wides and being been dispossessed would be taken off. Instead Johnston was taken out and Clerkin, who things didn't get an awful lot better for, was still on the field at the final whistle. For a manager who was only too happy to haul Conor Madden off early on a few occasions including when he had just put him on, it seems bizzare.
Clerkin to his credit won a few balls in the second half inside but in general he was hesitant to shoot, was unable to break the tackle and just seemed out of his depth.
Gerry Smith was taken off right after he scored his wonderful point, Moynagh was subbed while playing fairly well straight after picking up a yellow. Try as I might, I don't see the logic in a lot of the decisions.

-Ryan Connolly was introduced early, he didn't really make much of an impact but he was game, he won the ball out in front at one stage, burned his man on the outside for speed and got his shot away. Clerkin and Johnston our starting corner forwards can't do that. Give him time and I think he could be a good player for us.
Thomas Galligan was introduced after Mossy got a farcical black card. He looked a bit nervous but played well and got stuck in.

I agree with everything you say but Gerry Smith was injured. That's why he was subbed. Why not give Dillon more time?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on June 25, 2017, 11:59:48 PM
Yeh smith was holding the hammer after his wonder point. Madden starts v Monaghan and doesn't get a minute today.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mrdeeds on June 26, 2017, 12:04:21 AM
Quote from: Itchy on June 25, 2017, 11:42:59 PM
As someone who travelled, does anyone have any idea what the hell is our manager trying to do tactically. I was bamboozled by the positions. Looked like Martin reilly was midfield for half the game. Macketvwas corner forward, wing forward, wing back and midfield. Johnson played midfield again, looked disinterested and was subbed. I even witnessed Niall McDermott at centre back at one point. Galligan cost us 2 if not 3 points with more wayward kick outs. Mckiernan put up a decent score but I expect more from him in general play. McEnroe was good when he came out to half back line as were Gerry smith (contender for point of the season) and Ciaran Brady. A win is a win but manager needs to sort out whatever the hell he is trying to do as no one in the stadium, including the players, seems to know what is going on.

Martin Reilly was played mf versus Monaghan. On Offaly kickouts they hit towards Reilly Clerkin and Brady and won a lot of marks. After 10 mins the positions all changed for no apparent reason.

Our manager is a spoofer of the highest order. After being knocked out of Ulster he said he couldn't be prouder of the players.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mrdeeds on June 26, 2017, 12:07:31 AM
Quote from: Itchy on June 25, 2017, 11:59:48 PM
Yeh smith was holding the hammer after his wonder point. Madden starts v Monaghan and doesn't get a minute today.

Starts out of position too. Killian Clarke obviously injured comes on in a game already won. Mossy comes on too instead of trying Galligan. Fergal Reilly not getting a look in. Dillon getting two minutes.

Mannion scored eight points from play today for Dublin. Held scoreless against Cavan by Fergal who doesn't get a sniff now.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on June 26, 2017, 12:13:39 PM
Was listening to it on the radio but did  we do our usual thing as almost snatch defeat from the jaws of victory?  We should have gone all out to win by as much as possible.

Players all over the place except their best positions.As people have said, Joe Dillon full forward.  McVitee in the full forward line.  Can win his his own possesion and when further out the field seems prone to be very hot headed.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on June 26, 2017, 01:21:29 PM
Quote from: Denn Forever on June 26, 2017, 12:13:39 PM
Was listening to it on the radio but did  we do our usual thing as almost snatch defeat from the jaws of victory?  We should have gone all out to win by as much as possible.

Players all over the place except their best positions.As people have said, Joe Dillon full forward.  McVitee in the full forward line.  Can win his his own possesion and when further out the field seems prone to be very hot headed.

It was a funny game, lacked intensity in defence. When Cavan upped it a gear after half time they blew Offaly away, it was then a top team would rout the opposition but we dont do that. We had lots of possession but wasted it messing around. Young Connolly was in for another goal that was saved and then Offaly got a few points, a bit of momentum and the crowd started roaring and it was slightly uncomfortable in the end for us.

Offaly out smarted us on their kick outs too. Pulling Gearoid and Buchanan to one side and then targeting a wing forward who came from deep and caught 5/6 balls, normally over clerkins head. Everyone could see that except for McGlennan.

Tipp will be tough for us. We can only hope they got a bit of confidence from this game and that the injuries clear up. Rory Dunne would be a help against them and we need Clarke, McVitty and Smith on the field for pace. Still it is winnable but we wont be able to rely on 1-4 from Gearoid against Tipp.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on June 26, 2017, 07:27:32 PM
Personally, I never felt that we looked in danger of losing the game. I don't think the players did either, there didn't seem to be any sense of panic when Offaly were coming back into the game. But we certainly lacked the firepower to put the game to bed and keep it that way.

I would imagine the betting might actually have Tipp as favourites? We're both Division 2 teams next year. You'd imagine they will just target Gearoid because if you stop him, you're taking away probably 40% of Cavan's firepower.

Hopefully Quinlivan won't be back but if he is, I'd like to see Clarke given a man marking role on him provided he's fit. Bring in Dillon and Connolly and play them inside with McVeety. Bring McDermott out the field a bit. Try something anyway because what we saw last night won't be good enough!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on June 26, 2017, 11:45:29 PM
Cavan 1/2 and Tipp 2/1. Must've been a few pound put on Tipp as it was 4/11 and 11/4 originally. Cavan will need a huge improvement to win this game. 2-1 on Tipp is a great bet.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on June 28, 2017, 07:02:39 PM
Saw the highlights of the Minor game on TG4. Disappointing they couldn't find their way to show even 1 of Smith's 7 or 8 marks which was probably the deciding factor in the game! Impressed with the speed and purpose with which they attack. Looking forward to the Ulster Final.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mrdeeds on June 28, 2017, 07:32:45 PM
Quinlivan a big loss. Double up on Sweeney will go a long way to winning. Need to sort ff line. Seanie has never scored a Championship goal and Niall Clerkin has scored one point all year. Read today Colin Corkery scored 32 goals and over 180 points in 32 Championship games.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on June 28, 2017, 08:55:49 PM
Quote from: mrdeeds on June 28, 2017, 07:32:45 PM
Quinlivan a big loss. Double up on Sweeney will go a long way to winning. Need to sort ff line. Seanie has never scored a Championship goal and Niall Clerkin has scored one point all year. Read today Colin Corkery scored 32 goals and over 180 points in 32 Championship games.

Having been at both games I dont think Seanie even took a shot at the goals from play in either match so he would do well to score a goal! Time to leave him off and try the young lads. I thought the 2 young lads we brought on in Offaly played without fear and have lots of self belief, let them at it.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on June 28, 2017, 11:24:59 PM
Quote from: Itchy on June 28, 2017, 08:55:49 PM
Quote from: mrdeeds on June 28, 2017, 07:32:45 PM
Quinlivan a big loss. Double up on Sweeney will go a long way to winning. Need to sort ff line. Seanie has never scored a Championship goal and Niall Clerkin has scored one point all year. Read today Colin Corkery scored 32 goals and over 180 points in 32 Championship games.

Having been at both games I dont think Seanie even took a shot at the goals from play in either match so he would do well to score a goal! Time to leave him off and try the young lads. I thought the 2 young lads we brought on in Offaly played without fear and have lots of self belief, let them at it.

Connolly and Galligan? Past it. It's all about Oisin Pierson and James Smith.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on June 29, 2017, 09:42:10 AM
Quote from: Westside on June 28, 2017, 11:24:59 PM
Quote from: Itchy on June 28, 2017, 08:55:49 PM
Quote from: mrdeeds on June 28, 2017, 07:32:45 PM
Quinlivan a big loss. Double up on Sweeney will go a long way to winning. Need to sort ff line. Seanie has never scored a Championship goal and Niall Clerkin has scored one point all year. Read today Colin Corkery scored 32 goals and over 180 points in 32 Championship games.

Having been at both games I dont think Seanie even took a shot at the goals from play in either match so he would do well to score a goal! Time to leave him off and try the young lads. I thought the 2 young lads we brought on in Offaly played without fear and have lots of self belief, let them at it.

Connolly and Galligan? Past it. It's all about Oisin Pierson and James Smith.

Yes, Connolly and Galligan. I am talking about this year and Pierson and Smith are not on the senior panel this year.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on June 29, 2017, 01:12:21 PM
Quote from: Itchy on June 29, 2017, 09:42:10 AM
Quote from: Westside on June 28, 2017, 11:24:59 PM
Quote from: Itchy on June 28, 2017, 08:55:49 PM
Quote from: mrdeeds on June 28, 2017, 07:32:45 PM
Quinlivan a big loss. Double up on Sweeney will go a long way to winning. Need to sort ff line. Seanie has never scored a Championship goal and Niall Clerkin has scored one point all year. Read today Colin Corkery scored 32 goals and over 180 points in 32 Championship games.

Having been at both games I dont think Seanie even took a shot at the goals from play in either match so he would do well to score a goal! Time to leave him off and try the young lads. I thought the 2 young lads we brought on in Offaly played without fear and have lots of self belief, let them at it.

Connolly and Galligan? Past it. It's all about Oisin Pierson and James Smith.

Yes, Connolly and Galligan. I am talking about this year and Pierson and Smith are not on the senior panel this year.

Just joking Itchy!

Quinlivan is a big load. Sincerely hope Mattie rejigs the forward line, he needs to try something.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on July 02, 2017, 12:19:25 PM
I see Mackey had a couple of pops at O'Meara on the WeareCavan podcast. Looks like his comments haven't gone down to well with the team.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on July 02, 2017, 01:05:32 PM
Quote from: Westside on July 02, 2017, 12:19:25 PM
I see Mackey had a couple of pops at O'Meara on the WeareCavan podcast. Looks like his comments haven't gone down to well with the team.

Then o Mara went on twitter and said a number of current panel text him to say they agreed. I have to say the timing of this article and subsequent comments is not very helpful to the teams preparations. All involved should have known better and left this alone until the county season ends.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on July 02, 2017, 10:50:24 PM
Quote from: Itchy on July 02, 2017, 01:05:32 PM
Quote from: Westside on July 02, 2017, 12:19:25 PM
I see Mackey had a couple of pops at O'Meara on the WeareCavan podcast. Looks like his comments haven't gone down to well with the team.

Then o Mara went on twitter and said a number of current panel text him to say they agreed. I have to say the timing of this article and subsequent comments is not very helpful to the teams preparations. All involved should have known better and left this alone until the county season ends.

Hadn't seen that. If I was one of those panel members that had text him, i'd be sending a follow up message to tell him to cop himself on. He wants to be right, at the expense of causing an issue where there is no need to cause one.

Can't blame Mackey, if someone writes an article slating the forwards and the manager I see nothing wrong with standing up for your own.
For O'Mara to reply citing current players back his comments, that's Joe Brolly-esque stuff. Shows no regard for the team and the good of Cavan football.

But sure if it boosts his profile by getting him a few extra hits on his website it seems Alan doesn't care.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on July 06, 2017, 11:06:41 PM
1. Raymond Galligan (Lacken)
2. Padraig Faulkner (Kingscourt)
3. Killian Clarke (Shercock)
4. Jason McLoughlin (Shannon Gaels)
5. James McEnroe (Ramor United)
6. Niall Murray (Cavan Gaels)
7. Conor Moynagh (Drumgoon)
8. Liam Buchanan (Ballymachugh)
9. Tomas Corr (Denn)
10. Cian Mackey (Castlerahan)
11. Martin Reilly (Killygarry)
12. Ciaran Brady (Arvagh)
13. Caoimhin O'Reilly (Butlersbridge)
14. Gearoid McKiernan (Swanlinbar)
15. Dara McVeety (Crosserlough)


16. James Farrelly (Kingscourt)
17. Fergal Reilly (Castlerahan)
18. Killian Brady (Mullahoran)
19. Sean Johnston (Cavan Gaels)
20. Niall Clerkin (Shercock)
21. Niall McDermott (Ballinagh)
22. Shane O'Rourke (Laragh United)
23. Joe Dillon (Kingscourt)
24. Niall McKiernan (Lacken)
25. Ryan Connolly (Drumlane)
26. Thomas Galligan (Lacken)

Team named for the Tipperary game. McDermott, Gerry Smith, Clerkin and Johnston dropped from the last day out. Odd to see Caoimhin Reilly coming in for a starting place instead of Ryan Connolly. Perhaps he offers something different or is going well in training. He's an exciting player, very interested to see how he gets on.

All in all, it looks a stronger team than we fielded the last day out. Mossy will give us a greater presence around the middle, some of the non performers the last day have been replaced. I feel it's a good selection by Mattie, looking forward to Saturday now. Best of luck to them!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on July 07, 2017, 12:39:26 AM
There'll be a few questions answered about the likely direction of this bunch of players under McGleenan this weekend I think. The Offaly game was just one to be got out of the way, this is one we can and have to get our teeth into because Tipp will turn us over unless we're about our business. Here's hoping it could launch a little qualifier run to bring up confidence and develop whatever it is Mattie has in mind for the future. Good luck to them.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on July 07, 2017, 06:56:47 AM
Has Niall Mckiernan been in the 26 for any of the other championship games?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on July 07, 2017, 09:48:39 AM
No Niall McDermott is a strange one for me. Thought he did well last day. No free taker either.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on July 08, 2017, 04:05:39 PM
What the hell is wrong?  First h.alf sounded great.  Then Immplosion.  I :-\ :-\
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on July 08, 2017, 05:34:58 PM
Maybe it's ok to say this now - me mcglennan is a grade A bullshitter and he should be jettisoned very quickly. In a year he has stopped our upward trajectory and we find ourselves going backwards. It might seem harsh but we cannot entrust our senior team to him for another season as I believe he will bring us closer to div 3 than div 1. I question also whoever is preparing the team physically. Can't sustain a high tempo at all and players getting way to many muscle injuries. Finally some of our so called big names should also have a deep look at themselves, they yet again failed to lead on the pitch. This was the time to deliever and they failed miserably. If I were them I wouldn't be seen out drinking a few pints in cavan this evening.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mrdeeds on July 08, 2017, 08:46:46 PM
Quote from: Itchy on July 08, 2017, 05:34:58 PM
Maybe it's ok to say this now - me mcglennan is a grade A bullshitter and he should be jettisoned very quickly. In a year he has stopped our upward trajectory and we find ourselves going backwards. It might seem harsh but we cannot entrust our senior team to him for another season as I believe he will bring us closer to div 3 than div 1. I question also whoever is preparing the team physically. Can't sustain a high tempo at all and players getting way to many muscle injuries. Finally some of our so called big names should also have a deep look at themselves, they yet again failed to lead on the pitch. This was the time to deliever and they failed miserably. If I were them I wouldn't be seen out drinking a few pints in cavan this evening.

The players are well entitled to drink. Give up thier whole social life and don't go out to play bad. We need the u21 generation to stand up though. Mackey only one took game to them and he now 30. Manager is such a bluffer it's unreal. His interviews are bizarre. Players in 15 one day not in squad the next. Lads marginalised all year appear in bench today. No game plan. Players in no condition and so many hamstring injuries. He'll get another year because it will be argued he can watch club football. Needs to go though or we'll be a division three team.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on July 08, 2017, 09:46:47 PM
Quote from: mrdeeds on July 08, 2017, 08:46:46 PM
Quote from: Itchy on July 08, 2017, 05:34:58 PM
Maybe it's ok to say this now - me mcglennan is a grade A bullshitter and he should be jettisoned very quickly. In a year he has stopped our upward trajectory and we find ourselves going backwards. It might seem harsh but we cannot entrust our senior team to him for another season as I believe he will bring us closer to div 3 than div 1. I question also whoever is preparing the team physically. Can't sustain a high tempo at all and players getting way to many muscle injuries. Finally some of our so called big names should also have a deep look at themselves, they yet again failed to lead on the pitch. This was the time to deliever and they failed miserably. If I were them I wouldn't be seen out drinking a few pints in cavan this evening.

The players are well entitled to drink. Give up thier whole social life and don't go out to play bad. We need the u21 generation to stand up though. Mackey only one took game to them and he now 30. Manager is such a bluffer it's unreal. His interviews are bizarre. Players in 15 one day not in squad the next. Lads marginalised all year appear in bench today. No game plan. Players in no condition and so many hamstring injuries. He'll get another year because it will be argued he can watch club football. Needs to go though or we'll be a division three team.

I genuinely mean this, if I were apart of that shambles today you wouldn't see me in the imperial until Christmas. But that's just me. We can agree on McGlennan, a bluffer of the highest level. Can you believe he managed to come out with the absolutely fabulous statement during an interview today. People will say it's his 1st year and he deserves another one at least and I understand that to an extent but surely to be given that he should have had to show some progress. The only progress I've heard is that we may have found a forward in Caoimhin o Reilly but on the other hand today was his first time this year on the pitch for the seniors!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mrdeeds on July 08, 2017, 09:49:24 PM
Players follow management instructions. Nobody in for breaks was so frustrating to watch. Mattie thought it was a terrific performance.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on July 08, 2017, 10:09:01 PM
Quote from: mrdeeds on July 08, 2017, 09:49:24 PM
Players follow management instructions. Nobody in for breaks was so frustrating to watch. Mattie thought it was a terrific performance.

Well the boils Mattie wasn't taking any responsibility on the BBC for a balls up. "We couldn't buy a break", "ref gave them soft frees". I think removing Hyland will prove to have been a terrible mistake. I can see us go to div 3 with this lad.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mrdeeds on July 08, 2017, 10:17:29 PM
Quote from: Itchy on July 08, 2017, 10:09:01 PM
Quote from: mrdeeds on July 08, 2017, 09:49:24 PM
Players follow management instructions. Nobody in for breaks was so frustrating to watch. Mattie thought it was a terrific performance.

Well the boils Mattie wasn't taking any responsibility on the BBC for a balls up. "We couldn't buy a break", "ref gave them soft frees". I think removing Hyland will prove to have been a terrible mistake. I can see us go to div 3 with this lad.

Lot of good teams in div 2.  Could easily go down.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on July 09, 2017, 10:43:54 AM
QuoteWe can agree on McGlennan, a bluffer of the highest level.

We seem to attract this type of manager.  Who ousted Hyland? 

Was there a marked difference in how the players approached the game in the second half?  Was there an apparent change of style as in we are 6 points ahead, we'll try and hold onto this lead?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on July 09, 2017, 10:56:54 AM
Quote from: Denn Forever on July 09, 2017, 10:43:54 AM
QuoteWe can agree on McGlennan, a bluffer of the highest level.

We seem to attract this type of manager.  Who ousted Hyland? 

Was there a marked difference in how the players approached the game in the second half?  Was there an apparent change of style as in we are 6 points ahead, we'll try and hold onto this lead?

Who ousted Hyland? Well for one there was a concerted effort by a muppet from Virginia on a Facebook page for one. A load of other Seanie fans that weren't happy that he had dropped their golden boy and my personal belief is that all that got into the players heads and they felt a new voice was needed to progress them. In the end the players asked for change. Careful what you wish for. Now look at what we are left with not even 12 months on.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: DuffleKing on July 09, 2017, 11:25:43 AM

Lads this was such a bizarre appointment from the start
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on July 09, 2017, 01:21:09 PM
Quote from: DuffleKing on July 09, 2017, 11:25:43 AM

Lads this was such a bizarre appointment from the start

Just interested to know why you think that?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on July 09, 2017, 01:39:58 PM
Fabulous. Fantastic. Class. That is all.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mrdeeds on July 09, 2017, 01:58:19 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on July 09, 2017, 01:39:58 PM
Fabulous. Fantastic. Class. That is all.

He actually said it was a terrific performance and we got more scores than Tipperary.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on July 09, 2017, 02:54:34 PM
Couldn't bring myself to post yesterday after that fiasco.

-We played for 20 minutes and got the 6 point lead through a lot of long range scores. It wasn't sustainable, you won't hit scores from the 45 on the outside of the boot for a whole game. For the last 10 or 15 minutes of the first half we passed around midfield with no urgency and it seemed the players thought they were 'controlling the tempo' and would be able to keep their noses in front and win without a massive effort.

-For the second game in a row, we got absolutely decimated at midfield. I can't recall us winning even one kickout or break in the second half. If I hadn't seen Cavan execute a highly functioning kickout strategy last year, I'd be saying Ray Galligan was the problem but it's the system. It looks like they have a system in place, shouting a code based on the area of the pitch the ball was going to. It failed and failed in spectacular fashion.

-Cian Mackey is Cavan's best player. He tried, as he did against Offaly, to lead the fight for Cavan but he wasn't getting the traction. He was being fouled smartly once he went past half way. When Mackey couldn't do it for us, nobody else did.

-Caoimhin Reilly had a solid first half. Got on the ball, kicked two nice scores. Then bizarrely in the second half, despite being inside when we didn't even make it into the Tipp 45 for long periods, went down with cramp (after kicking a bad wide when the game had gone tits up...) and had to be subbed. I don't know if this was lack of fitness or what.

-Ryan Connolly, I don't like criticising a young lad but he failed to make a single positive contribution. I thought after the Offaly game that he could settle a bit more as he got game time at this level, he seems to be getting worse.

-We can't tackle. Remember when we got numbers backed, stood men up and hassled and harried and turned it over? That doesn't happen. We now dive in rashly one by one until the opposition can get their shot away or we foul them and give away a free.

-The most depressing thing about it, it felt Longford in 2011. We phoned it in for a half of football and were ahead. When Tipp upped it in the second half we didn't want to know about it. There was no sign of a team that was united, no sign of a team that had faith in the game plan or the manager.

- Johnston actually looked like one of the few that really wanted to win the game when he came on. He tried to rally the troops and wanted to get involved and make a difference. It could well be his last game in a Cavan jersey but he's a player from a different era and I think he knows that himself. He was a wonderful talent in his prime but the game has changed.

- McGleenan. I don't like blaming the manager for all of our woes. We lack players with the natural talent to play at the top level. However, yesterday wasn't the top level. There was no facet of our play, apart from our long range shooting in the first half, that worked. Kickout strategy didn't work, man to man defending was awful (players diving in, rounded on the end line on several occasions) our cohesion up front, killer instinct (Mossy and Gearoid through on goal in the first half, could have put an even bigger lead up, and fisted it over) and just the general desire from the team didn't seem to be there.
McGleenan has won 2 games in league and championship all year. I don't think he's getting the best out of the players. I also think the players aren't as good as they think they are, and are only too happy to convince themselves it's the managers fault.
There's no right answer here but if the players aren't happy now, they won't be any happier come next winter when training starts. If they want rid of him, do it now and get it over and done with. We haven't seen anything, anything at all to show us that he's the man to improve this team. That said, I don't believe we will see big results no matter who we bring in. It's a poisoned chalice of the highest degree.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: DuffleKing on July 09, 2017, 05:41:28 PM
Quote from: Itchy on July 09, 2017, 01:21:09 PM
Quote from: DuffleKing on July 09, 2017, 11:25:43 AM

Lads this was such a bizarre appointment from the start

Just interested to know why you think that?

I don't know anyone who considered Mattie - nice fella that he is - remotely capable of coaching at county level. His record and reputation were very poor until Scotstown. On the face of Scotstown, there were solid achievements but if you know Monaghan club football you know that they should be winning the championship perpetually in that period. His reputation around schools football and MacRory cup in particular is probably the most telling analysis.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on July 10, 2017, 12:45:52 AM
I've always advised giving him time to settle, but that's a first full league and championship done and the initial question marks that became concerns are now alarm bells. This was a matchup that provided an ideal platform for this manager and players at this stage of development. Now it looks like we tried to shake things up managerially and made an appointment that regressed us. He's unlikely to be jettisoned so quickly, so is there any flicker of hope he'll get it together over the coming months? I think none of us have any confidence.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on July 11, 2017, 10:27:03 PM
Let's hope our minors can give the county a much needed lift on Sunday. Anyone know who is the favourites? I presume Derry as they came from the supposed harder side of the draw. A win would give them a super chance of making the all Ireland semi as they'd be playing what I believe is an ordinary enough sligo team.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mrdeeds on July 14, 2017, 10:15:38 AM
There no odds for underage games anymore but Derry would be favourites. I wouldn't be confident just for the fact that we play naively and a well set up team would kill us.

Also with regards senior team one player said that the strength and conditioning was better with his club than with the county team. Would explain all the injuries and lack of fitness.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on July 14, 2017, 04:21:49 PM
Quote from: mrdeeds on July 14, 2017, 10:15:38 AM
There no odds for underage games anymore but Derry would be favourites. I wouldn't be confident just for the fact that we play naively and a well set up team would kill us.

Also with regards senior team one player said that the strength and conditioning was better with his club than with the county team. Would explain all the injuries and lack of fitness.

That's bad. Fitness in every game I saw this year was an issue, we couldn't maintain intensity to the end.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on July 17, 2017, 10:12:14 AM
Another disappointing day yesterday. Derry were well drilled, very slick and lethal in front of the posts but I am sure that the Cavan management knew that before the game. Seems to me that no attempt was made to counter that. However, Derry identified our midfield as the key and put a big squeeze on there and wiped us out. Why am I always watching Cavan games and wondering why our opposition is more tactically astute. For example in the first 15 minutes yesterday we kicked every kick out to our midfield, didn't win one and were 6 points down. There was simply no plan for that happening. If we have broke even there we could have run them very close.

Our much vaunted midfield pairing looked to me to lack pace and aggression on the basis of this game, allowing Derry to drive past them. I was impressed with Madden who always wanted the ball and same of Pierson. The keeper was good too despite an unfortunate howler for the goals. The full back line is really weak, no pace, dreadful tackling and intelligence ( jumping into tackles they have no chance to win). Maybe occasion got to done if then but I'd reckon there are only 3 players there that will make the senior team.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mrdeeds on July 17, 2017, 10:36:17 AM
Itchy the problem is another manager whose idea of tactics is go out and play football.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on July 17, 2017, 11:26:25 AM
Quote from: mrdeeds on July 17, 2017, 10:36:17 AM
Itchy the problem is another manager whose idea of tactics is go out and play football.

Surely to god there are some men in the county with a clue that could take some of these teams?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mrdeeds on July 17, 2017, 11:34:39 AM
Quote from: Itchy on July 17, 2017, 11:26:25 AM
Quote from: mrdeeds on July 17, 2017, 10:36:17 AM
Itchy the problem is another manager whose idea of tactics is go out and play football.

Surely to god there are some men in the county with a clue that could take some of these teams?

There was an outstanding candidate for the job but he didn't get it. Problem is lads get jobs if they have connections or do a good interview even though that means absolutely nothing.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on July 17, 2017, 06:26:35 PM
Agree with everything you said Itchy. I did think that Smith looked like he was growing into the game before the black. Did anyone see what it was for? He was a big loss. Patterson didn't have a good game. I was impressed with Madden, keen to get on the ball. Thought Tiernan Reilly looked good when he came on, surprised he wasn't starting. It was encouraging to see how the players fought so hard to stay in touch with Derry for so long even though it seemed obvious from early on that they were playing a superior side.

Derry looked purposeful, a well drilled and professional outfit. Managers and water carriers and selectors all giving short consistent instructions from the line. We looked like a team of 15 players that were told to go out and 'go at them'. Serious lack of tactical thinking. We were being wiped in the full back line and midfield and absolutely nothing was done.
That said, Derry were on a different level physically. I don't think that we would have beaten them no matter what the tactics employed. That midfielder they brought on in the second half for all the world looked like a County Senior.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on July 17, 2017, 06:45:51 PM
Black card was for a foot trip. It was a ridiculous decision by a very poor ref who didn't look fit enough to run a 5k never mind keep up with play. If there was a trip it was totally accidental as the players just collided. Can't understand how referee cannot use a bit of cop on and ask themselves "was that cynical and intentional". But sure this is where gaa try out these referees and I've no doubt that lad will one day be reffing big games in the future despite being crap.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mrdeeds on July 24, 2017, 06:46:47 PM
Quote from: Itchy on July 14, 2017, 04:21:49 PM
Quote from: mrdeeds on July 14, 2017, 10:15:38 AM
There no odds for underage games anymore but Derry would be favourites. I wouldn't be confident just for the fact that we play naively and a well set up team would kill us.

Also with regards senior team one player said that the strength and conditioning was better with his club than with the county team. Would explain all the injuries and lack of fitness.

That's bad. Fitness in every game I saw this year was an issue, we couldn't maintain intensity to the end.

The first steps in solving this are happening with s and c coach gone. Probably will be one or two more changes to backroom team.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on July 26, 2017, 10:34:27 AM
Quote from: mrdeeds on July 24, 2017, 06:46:47 PM
Quote from: Itchy on July 14, 2017, 04:21:49 PM
Quote from: mrdeeds on July 14, 2017, 10:15:38 AM
There no odds for underage games anymore but Derry would be favourites. I wouldn't be confident just for the fact that we play naively and a well set up team would kill us.

Also with regards senior team one player said that the strength and conditioning was better with his club than with the county team. Would explain all the injuries and lack of fitness.

That's bad. Fitness in every game I saw this year was an issue, we couldn't maintain intensity to the end.

The first steps in solving this are happening with s and c coach gone. Probably will be one or two more changes to backroom team.

Did he walk or was he pushed?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mrdeeds on July 26, 2017, 12:31:20 PM
Quote from: Itchy on July 26, 2017, 10:34:27 AM
Quote from: mrdeeds on July 24, 2017, 06:46:47 PM
Quote from: Itchy on July 14, 2017, 04:21:49 PM
Quote from: mrdeeds on July 14, 2017, 10:15:38 AM
There no odds for underage games anymore but Derry would be favourites. I wouldn't be confident just for the fact that we play naively and a well set up team would kill us.

Also with regards senior team one player said that the strength and conditioning was better with his club than with the county team. Would explain all the injuries and lack of fitness.

That's bad. Fitness in every game I saw this year was an issue, we couldn't maintain intensity to the end.

The first steps in solving this are happening with s and c coach gone. Probably will be one or two more changes to backroom team.

Did he walk or was he pushed?

His twitter account would infer walked but from what I heard few weeks ago pushed more than likely. County Board have identified changes needed in backroom team. Expect more but manager will remain.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on July 27, 2017, 09:20:43 PM
Anyone know what's going on in the minor camp? What I'm hearing on the grapevine is woeful stuff.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on July 27, 2017, 11:42:22 PM
Quote from: Westside on July 27, 2017, 09:20:43 PM
Anyone know what's going on in the minor camp? What I'm hearing on the grapevine is woeful stuff.

Sent you a pm there.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mrdeeds on July 28, 2017, 12:04:57 PM
Quote from: Itchy on July 27, 2017, 11:42:22 PM
Quote from: Westside on July 27, 2017, 09:20:43 PM
Anyone know what's going on in the minor camp? What I'm hearing on the grapevine is woeful stuff.

Sent you a pm there.

Is there management changes in last couple weeks? Also players acting up?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mrdeeds on July 29, 2017, 09:27:51 AM
Anyway championship started and the two senior results as expected but Ramor a lot tighter than expected. Missing a few players and Cuchullains have talented forwards.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: comeysfield on August 08, 2017, 05:20:29 PM
Things we learned at the weekend

John Brady is one hell of a lucky general

Looking like Ramor and the Gaels (bit of shadow boxing this week) in the senior but Kingscourt not far off it

Early days but Ballyhaise and Laragh look like teams to beat in the Intermediate and maybe Ballymachugh can finally win that Junior
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on August 09, 2017, 01:35:35 PM
Highlights of the minor game is on the TG4 player - search for GAA 2017. The last score by Cian Madden was out of this world, cant think of a better point all year.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mrdeeds on September 17, 2017, 12:02:01 PM
The big 4 left at senior level. Gaels got it a lot tougher than expected. Castlerahan good win minus Mackey.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on September 18, 2017, 05:22:25 AM
Castlerahan are the Mayo of the Cavan SFC, always there or thereabouts but contrive to find a way to lose finals repeatedly.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mrdeeds on September 24, 2017, 09:46:42 PM
And then there were two. As a Castlerahan man I'll acknowledge Gaels are favourites and rightly so. However our defensive work is impressive and in Mackey we have a gem. Hopefully he can get himself fully fit for final.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on September 24, 2017, 11:20:33 PM
Quote from: mrdeeds on September 24, 2017, 09:46:42 PM
And then there were two. As a Castlerahan man I'll acknowledge Gaels are favourites and rightly so. However our defensive work is impressive and in Mackey we have a gem. Hopefully he can get himself fully fit for final.

It would be great to see rahan finally get over the line.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mrdeeds on October 05, 2017, 06:03:55 PM
Quote from: Thastheball on October 04, 2017, 12:11:25 PM
Quote from: Itchy on September 24, 2017, 11:20:33 PM
Quote from: mrdeeds on September 24, 2017, 09:46:42 PM
And then there were two. As a Castlerahan man I'll acknowledge Gaels are favourites and rightly so. However our defensive work is impressive and in Mackey we have a gem. Hopefully he can get himself fully fit for final.

It would be great to see rahan finally get over the line.

I would love to see Tony Brady get his day in the sun, but not at our expense

It's Donal Keogan and Anthony Forde over Castlerahan.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on October 08, 2017, 10:24:48 PM
Wasn't at the game but gaels back top of the pile. Seems it was a brutal match, castlerahan too defensive. Lot of niggle and the ref lost control. According to northern sound Johnston should have got red early but ref bottled it. He got 5 points and mom thereafter. That said best team by quite a bit won. Hopefully they can give Ulster a right rattle.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Blue in hope on October 08, 2017, 11:52:03 PM
Mr Deeds don't know what game you were at today. From the very start the castlerahan corner back was pulling dragging and kicking Johnston who got no protection from the referee. He drifted out to the sideline beside mr mcquillan and was still been kicked pulled and dragged, but the linesman saw nothing. Castle Rahman made no attempt to play football. Chesty was the runner for the Gaels not Crotty. He was struck by Keoghan but surprise Mr Mc Quillan saw nothing. Start of the second half four Castlerahan assaulted no other word for it Johnston. Considering the abuse he took he did very well to keep his cool- I certainly wouldn't. I don't blame the referee but certainly blame his linesmen for failing to do their duty and protect players from this thuggery that happened today. The team that went out to try play football won. If only Castlrahan tried a different approach to the last two years they might have done better.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on October 09, 2017, 12:03:18 PM
Quote from: Thastheball on October 09, 2017, 11:27:03 AM
Quote from: Blue in hope on October 08, 2017, 11:52:03 PM
Mr Deeds don't know what game you were at today. From the very start the castlerahan corner back was pulling dragging and kicking Johnston who got no protection from the referee. He drifted out to the sideline beside mr mcquillan and was still been kicked pulled and dragged, but the linesman saw nothing. Castle Rahman made no attempt to play football. Chesty was the runner for the Gaels not Crotty. He was struck by Keoghan but surprise Mr Mc Quillan saw nothing. Start of the second half four Castlerahan assaulted no other word for it Johnston. Considering the abuse he took he did very well to keep his cool- I certainly wouldn't. I don't blame the referee but certainly blame his linesmen for failing to do their duty and protect players from this thuggery that happened today. The team that went out to try play football won. If only Castlrahan tried a different approach to the last two years they might have done better.


Great win to get another title. Seanie took some abuse. I was going mental at the linesmen and umpires, gave the man no protection at all. Keoghan would need to wise up. We are in the good side of the draw in the Ulster club.

Bit old to start wising up at this stage!

Cavan could really do with the Gaels making an impact in Ulster.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on October 13, 2017, 05:21:01 PM
QuoteCavan could really do with the Gaels making an impact in Ulster.

Think so too but they seem happy enough with the County final.  Hope this year will be different.

Good start and at home again.


So, that's semis of...

Kilcar v Slaughtneil
Cavan Gaels v Derrygonnelly
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on October 29, 2017, 05:12:17 PM
Quote from: Denn Forever on October 13, 2017, 05:21:01 PM
QuoteCavan could really do with the Gaels making an impact in Ulster.

Think so too but they seem happy enough with the County final.  Hope this year will be different.

Good start and at home again.

So, that's semis of...

Kilcar v Slaughtneil
Cavan Gaels v Derrygonnelly
Even bettwse the 2nd time.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on October 29, 2017, 05:38:38 PM
Derrygonnelly probaly saying the same too. It's there for either team to get to the final. Weaker side of the draw.


Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on November 09, 2017, 11:20:12 AM
The game is in Clones.  I wonder will their be a big crowd from Cavan?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on November 14, 2017, 01:10:15 PM
Was Killian ill before the first test? He got some roasting...
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on November 19, 2017, 09:56:41 PM
Anyone in clones  today, seems like it was a mad game.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Duckquay on November 19, 2017, 09:59:08 PM
Was at it, very enjoyable game. Best team lost but Gaels won't worry about that. Unbeaten in 2017, some going at any level.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on November 20, 2017, 01:24:58 PM
Quote from: Duckquay on November 19, 2017, 09:59:08 PM
Was at it, very enjoyable game. Best team lost but Gaels won't worry about that. Unbeaten in 2017, some going at any level.

It would be a great achievement and boost for Cavan football if they could somehow dethrone Slaughtneil. I hear Meehan had a great match, will he go back into the Cavan panel if invited?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Duckquay on November 21, 2017, 07:47:17 PM
Yeah Meehan was probably motm. Drove forward at will. There could be as many as 10 called in to the county panel, definitely 7 I would say.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on November 22, 2017, 09:53:36 PM
What did you think of Niall Murray at Full Back. In highlights he looked a bit loose but I heard someone else say he played well there.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on November 30, 2017, 09:52:54 PM
Antrim , St Marys and Tyrone in the Mckenna cup. Tyrone going for 50 in a row.

The Colleges involved in this but not allowed in the other 3 provinces, whatever that's about.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on December 09, 2017, 10:07:35 PM
Ballyhaiseman I sent you a private message.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on December 21, 2017, 09:23:54 PM
Rory Dunne, Mossy and McEnroe gone. Martin Reilly not committing until February I've heard after his honeymoon. Also heard a lot of other lads didn't commit. Are we looking at Div3.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mrdeeds on December 21, 2017, 09:36:04 PM
Quote from: Itchy on December 21, 2017, 09:23:54 PM
Rory Dunne, Mossy and McEnroe gone. Martin Reilly not committing until February I've heard after his honeymoon. Also heard a lot of other lads didn't commit. Are we looking at Div3.

Beyond doubt. Gaels lads don't want to commit. They've being looking well down the list to get a panel together. Mackey McDermot gone too.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on December 21, 2017, 10:09:17 PM
Hoganstand article said Mackey was committing.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mrdeeds on December 21, 2017, 10:14:32 PM
Quote from: Itchy on December 21, 2017, 10:09:17 PM
Hoganstand article said Mackey was committing.

Heard it from the horses mouth he wasn't.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on December 21, 2017, 11:02:34 PM
I think the appointment of Mcglennan will prove to be one of the most disastrous in our history.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mrdeeds on December 21, 2017, 11:30:10 PM
We're division three bound.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on December 22, 2017, 01:55:44 AM
Are we not being a bit pessimistic? Usually we have the opposite tendency at this time of the year and although I'm not expecting much either, if we can't scrape 5/6 points out of games against Louth, Meath, Down and Tipperary - all home games - and maybe pick up another win on the road, then the arse must have fallen out of the thing entirely! Or is the word on the ground truly that bleak?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: redzone on December 22, 2017, 08:21:47 AM
Quote from: Itchy on December 21, 2017, 11:02:34 PM
I think the appointment of Mcglennan will prove to be one of the most disastrous in our history.

Yeah it was mad to want rid of hyland at the time alright. Especially for someone unproven at county level. We even have an idiot wasnting  rid of Harte and  replaced with   mcgleenan instead in Tyrone.
Jason Reilly should be given the job, already proven at club level, knows the club scene inside out and i think he unite all the players
Yous were shit before mattie game so a bit harsh to totally blame him
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on December 22, 2017, 08:41:59 AM
Quote from: redzone on December 22, 2017, 08:21:47 AM
Quote from: Itchy on December 21, 2017, 11:02:34 PM
I think the appointment of Mcglennan will prove to be one of the most disastrous in our history.

Yeah it was mad to want rid of hyland at the time alright. Especially for someone unproven at county level. We even have an idiot wasnting  rid of Harte and  replaced with   mcgleenan instead in Tyrone.
Jason Reilly should be given the job, already proven at club level, knows the club scene inside out and i think he unite all the players
Yous were shit before mattie game so a bit harsh to totally blame him

We were in Div 1 for the first time in a long time before Mattie came along. Getting promoted with Tyrone. Hardly shit unless you also think Tyrone are shit.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mrdeeds on December 22, 2017, 10:42:21 AM
Quote from: cavanmaniac on December 22, 2017, 01:55:44 AM
Are we not being a bit pessimistic? Usually we have the opposite tendency at this time of the year and although I'm not expecting much either, if we can't scrape 5/6 points out of games against Louth, Meath, Down and Tipperary - all home games - and maybe pick up another win on the road, then the arse must have fallen out of the thing entirely! Or is the word on the ground truly that bleak?

I heard couple things that wouldn't give you any faith.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on December 23, 2017, 10:55:57 PM
I wouldn't panic in terms of the personnel just yet. To be fair, Mossy was coming to an end. Deserves serious credit for his turnaround as a player and the performances he put in for Cavan. Same goes for Rory Dunne and it's just a pity injury seems to have ended his career prematurely, the best full back Cavan have had in the past decade. McEnroe didn't deliver fully on his potential but still had some great games for us and you would hope he might come back at some stage.

We still have the most important players committed; McVeety, Clarke, Gearoid, Martin Reilly, Ray Galligan, Faulkner.

As for Mackey, well if he's gone then he's an incalculable loss. There's no replacing him both in terms of what he can do with the ball in hand and the leadership he brings.

McKenna Cup will be interesting as I would imagine we'll see a good bit of lads like Caoimhin Reilly, Ryan Connolly, Thomas Galligan etc. Maybe some of them can prove their worth. I would also say we'll see a lot of journeymen.

I don't have much faith in McGleenan, I still think getting rid of Hyland was a terrible terrible mistake. He's had his year to settle in, it's now time to show improvements. Anything other than survival in Division 2 is unacceptable. I hope he uses the experienced players Cavan have at our disposal instead of throwing in too many journeymen club players and completely unproven young players trying to unearth something special.

Anyone know if David Brady will be with the Seniors or the U20s?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mrdeeds on January 02, 2018, 09:29:14 PM
1. Raymond Galligan (Lacken)
2. Jason McLoughlin (Shannon Gaels)
3. Padraig Faulkner (Kingscourt)
4. Damien McIntyre (Shercock)
5. Oisin Kiernan (Castlerahan)
6. Ciaran Brady (Arvagh)
7. Enda Flanagan (Castlerahan)
8. Sean McCormack (Ballyhaise)
9. David Brady (Ballyhaise)
10. Niall Clerkin (Shercock)
11. Conor Madden (Gowna)
12. Niall McKiernan (Lacken)
13. Jack Wharton (Cornafean)
14. Adrian Cole (Ramor United)
15. Bryan Magee (Cuchulainns)

16. Ciaran Flynn (Cavan Gaels)
17. David Phillips (Gowna)
18. Cormac Daly (Castlerahan)
19. Padraig Moore (Ballyhaise)
20. Conor Moynagh (Drumgoon)
21. Dan Wharton (Cornafean)
22. Conor Brady (Gowna)
23. Dónal Monahan (Drumlane)
24. Darragh Kennedy (Drumlane)
25. Conor Bradley (Ramor United)
26. Thomas Galligan (Lacken)

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on January 04, 2018, 08:47:11 AM
Anyone at the game yesterday? Any new players put a hand up? Listening on the internet seemed like McKiernan had a strong game.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mrdeeds on January 04, 2018, 09:06:49 AM
Quote from: Itchy on January 04, 2018, 08:47:11 AM
Anyone at the game yesterday? Any new players put a hand up? Listening on the internet seemed like McKiernan had a strong game.

Yeah was at it. Madden got MOTM but McKiernan would have being mine. Jason McLoughlin very good and I thought David Philips done well. Thomas Galligan changed things at half time and allowed us to compete at midfield. We were lucky to be   touching distance at half time as they missed a bit and cut us open a few times. Kennedy looked lively. Grew into game well.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mrdeeds on January 06, 2018, 09:06:51 PM
That Cavan team for tomorrow is maybe the worst I've ever saw.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on January 06, 2018, 11:04:48 PM
Quote from: mrdeeds on January 06, 2018, 09:06:51 PM
That Cavan team for tomorrow is maybe the worst I've ever saw.

15/8 for Antrim to win. Good bet.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on January 07, 2018, 01:01:09 PM
Are many of cavan lads with colleges? Where is Ryan Connolly, caoimhin o Reilly etc as they do t seem to be on this McKenna cup panel.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mrdeeds on January 07, 2018, 01:12:56 PM
Not sure but I know a lot of players have being given a longer break away. Bit foolish I'd say with league starting so early.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mrdeeds on January 07, 2018, 03:36:47 PM
Lost 4 10 to 2 14. Could have conceded more goals going by reports.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on January 08, 2018, 09:35:18 PM
Sounds like we could have got a draw, Magee missed a sitter of a free and Antrim went down and scored the other end.

The teams lining out are among the worst we would have seen in a long number of years for Cavan. Surely the likes of Caoimhin Reilly and Ryan Connolly should be cutting their teeth here. If we don't see a huge amount of regulars return before the league, we're in trouble. Could be argued that we're going to be in trouble anyway arriving to Ennis with a team of players may be pulling on the jersey for the first time this year. If we see any more than one or two debutantes, it will be depressing.

Positives anyone? Niall McKiernan seems to be doing well.. Anyone else catching the eye?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mrdeeds on January 08, 2018, 10:00:43 PM
Wednesday night could be a massacre.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on January 08, 2018, 10:14:17 PM
Quote from: Westside on January 08, 2018, 09:35:18 PM
Sounds like we could have got a draw, Magee missed a sitter of a free and Antrim went down and scored the other end.

The teams lining out are among the worst we would have seen in a long number of years for Cavan. Surely the likes of Caoimhin Reilly and Ryan Connolly should be cutting their teeth here. If we don't see a huge amount of regulars return before the league, we're in trouble. Could be argued that we're going to be in trouble anyway arriving to Ennis with a team of players may be pulling on the jersey for the first time this year. If we see any more than one or two debutantes, it will be depressing.

Positives anyone? Niall McKiernan seems to be doing well.. Anyone else catching the eye?

I read some people saying Enda Flanagan but i wouldn't rate him that highly. On northern sound Mattie mentioned a lot of players coming back from injury like gearoid and killian. Said he won't play them against Clare unless back to 100% fit. Tyrone could decide to go all out to put manners on us, Harte has form for that.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mrdeeds on January 10, 2018, 05:46:58 PM
J Farrelly, D Phillips, D Monahan, D Kennedy, Conor Brady, Ciaran Brady, O Kiernan, T Galligan, P Faulkner, J Wharton, E Flanagan, N Clerkin, C Bradley, N McKiernan, B Magee

Subs
16. Raymond Galligan (Lacken)
17. Sean McCormack (Ballyhaise)
18. Cormac Daly (Castlerahan)
19. Damien McIntyre (Shercock)
20. Padraig Moore (Ballyhaise)
21. David Brady (Ballyhaise)
22. Paul Gilcreest (Lavey)
23. Conor Moynagh (Drumgoon)
24. Jason McLoughlin (Shannon Gaels)
25. Ryan Connolly (Drumlane)
26. Caoimhin O'Reilly (Butlersbridge)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mrdeeds on January 10, 2018, 05:48:21 PM
Can get 4s on Cavan losing by 15+. Tyrone -8 is evens.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on January 10, 2018, 09:41:57 PM
2-22 to 0-7.

At least we scored in both halves, that was always very important in the McKenna cup for the people who wanted Hyland out back in the day.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mrdeeds on January 10, 2018, 09:46:54 PM
Too many inexperienced lads. Cannon fodder. Ciaran Brady miles our best player. Of new lads McIntyre good and Kennedy. Enda Flanagan doin well in attack and defence till black card.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on January 10, 2018, 10:11:41 PM
Don't panic it will come good some time in the next thirty years.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on January 10, 2018, 10:39:20 PM
Listen we have lost our back room team. We have lost loads of players from last year and we have not been able it seems to get any of the ones back who dropped out since Hyland left (Givney, Keating & Fergal Flanagan for example). It all points to issues in the camp to me. I really hope Mattie can salvage something in the next few weeks as this league is a big one for us. My fear is he is totally out of his depth at this level and nothing I've seen so far tells me different. According to the report in the Celt he refused to talk to the media after the game.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Duckquay on January 14, 2018, 09:56:00 PM
It's hard to be in any way positive looking down the line. Anything I've heard suggests that he has lost the backing of a lot of players too.
As an aside, why are lacken and gowna amalgamated at u21? Who has the shortage of players?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mrdeeds on January 14, 2018, 10:53:19 PM
Not sure on Southern Gaels numbers. Think 27 togged so probably both teams. Serious talent in that team.

As for Cavan by all accounts the set up is laughable.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on January 18, 2018, 02:39:47 PM
I'm afraid to ask but is there any positive news from the camp since the McKenna cup, any players coming back in yet?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: scoopmine on January 20, 2018, 12:31:30 PM
It all seems very negative anyway. The team the Celt put up with players in their 20s not on the panel would fairly rattle the panel we have now. The commitment to be in the panel must be savage. I still feel we will stay up.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on January 21, 2018, 07:40:32 PM
Quote from: scoopmine on January 20, 2018, 12:31:30 PM
It all seems very negative anyway. The team the Celt put up with players in their 20s not on the panel would fairly rattle the panel we have now. The commitment to be in the panel must be savage. I still feel we will stay up.

I'm hoping somehow we get our shit together for next week. It would be truly depressing to see it all fall apart.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mrdeeds on January 23, 2018, 06:15:41 PM
Good few big guns back. Mackey is also back. Who'll be match fit Saturday is another question. Good few McKenna Cup players gone.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on January 23, 2018, 06:30:59 PM
Quote from: mrdeeds on January 23, 2018, 06:15:41 PM
Good few big guns back. Mackey is also back. Who'll be match fit Saturday is another question. Good few McKenna Cup players gone.

Well who is back?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mrdeeds on January 23, 2018, 06:54:37 PM
The Gaels lads, McVeety, Mackey from what I heard. Clarke, McKiernan working on injuries. The big issue is putting a strong 15 out who are match fit.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on January 24, 2018, 01:00:44 PM
McVeety new captain. I assume that he is just rotating the role and its not a slight on Killian Clarke? Anyway, fighting talk from Dara this week. If you dont want to play for Cavan then we dont want you. Thats fair enough for me.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on January 24, 2018, 06:33:15 PM
Quote from: Itchy on January 24, 2018, 01:00:44 PM
McVeety new captain. I assume that he is just rotating the role and its not a slight on Killian Clarke? Anyway, fighting talk from Dara this week. If you dont want to play for Cavan then we dont want you. Thats fair enough for me.

Dara is a good choice for the role. I like Killian but I don't think he has the maturity for captaincy personally. Dead right to say it as he did with regard to the lads not committing. Brave chat from a young lad to a chunk of former teammates and shows where his true loyalties lie.

Also, good to see Ciaran Brady as vice captain. Underrated player and a great model for any Cavan player.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mrdeeds on January 25, 2018, 09:09:29 PM
1. Raymond Galligan (Lacken)
2. Dónal Monahan (Drumlane)
3. Padraig Faulkner (Kingscourt)
4. David Phillips (Gowna)
5. Darragh Kennedy (Killygarry)
6. Ciaran Brady (Arvagh)
7. Oisin Kiernan (Castlerahan)
8. Killian Clarke (Shercock)
9. Jack Wharton (Cornafean)
10. Enda Flanagan (Castlerahan)
11. Dara McVeety (Crosserlough)
12. David Brady (Ballyhaise)
13. Caoimhin O'Reilly (Butlersbridge)
14. Bryan Magee (Cuchulainns)
15. Adrian Cole (Ramor United)

16. James Farrelly (Kingscourt)
17. Conor Brady (Gowna)
18. Conor Bradley (Ramor United)
19. Sean McCormack (Ballyhaise)
20. Niall Clerkin (Shercock)
21. Ryan Connolly (Drumlane)
22. Niall McKiernan (Lacken)
23. Cian Mackey (Castlerahan)
24. Gearoid McKiernan (Swanlinbar)
25. Conor Madden (Gowna)
26. Paul Gilcreest (Lavey)
27. Conor Moynagh (Drumgoon)
28. Thomas Galligan (Lacken)

Not one Cavan Gaels player in squad.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on January 26, 2018, 08:26:25 AM
10 debuts handed out. That's shocking. Questions need to be asked. People drop off panels but when it happens like this, in such numbers, after years of relative stability... This is potentially irreparable. We don't have a prayer of beating Clare with that 15. Maybe if all the Senior players on the bench start but other than that...

How are we in this situation. I'm in disbelief.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on January 26, 2018, 08:40:11 AM
What I dont understand is that if you sacrifice the McKenna cup and throw lads into it to see how they get on then why would you ignore the output of that. For example I believe our top scorer in the McKenna cup was Niall McKiernan yet he doesnt start. Wharton played a few games at wing back and Ctr back and from what I am told he struggled and now he is midfield?

I suppose we will just have to go with it and see how these lads get on and hope for the best. At least we can see some of our senior players showing their faces.

No Gaels players at all though, whats that about. I understood they were all back training.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on January 26, 2018, 09:09:21 AM
Exactlu Itchy. There doesn't seem to be any consistency in team selection even given the state of the panel. Niall McKiernan should definitely be starting based on McKenna Cup performances. So should Thomas Galligan. Where's McLoughlin? Where's Buchannan and Gunner Brady?

Was really looking forward to the return of the league but it's hard to justify a 6 odd hour round trip.
No harm to the lads There, sure I'd play myself if I got the chance!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on January 27, 2018, 09:20:37 PM
Well probably a fair enough result but in last few mins we probably should've won that game. For those who didn't make it change from start with Madden in for Cole. No gearoid on bench euther. Thomas galligan came on wearing 15.

Great start with really good goal but Clare quickly got on top. Madden was only outlet at ff with Magee playing around middle. Madden is frustrating, getting onto ball but not protecting it or spilling it. It was a wicked wind and I was shocked Mattie didn't give Madden a few mins with the wind. He put Niall McKiernan on who was very poor at half time. Played Magee and McKiernan in 2 man ff line with caoimhin Reilly out around the middle! Clare started 2nd half well but the addition of Mackey and Thomas galligan turned the game. We really should've pushed on and won but Faulkner shot hit the post to put us 1 up and instead Clare got ahead and we needed last minute free to draw.
Good for us was our fb line which did well. Holla was brave and strong and I thought Clarke was outstanding in 1st half on Brennan with very little help. Mcveety very good in patches. Poor was our FF line which was no threat. Mackey still our biggest threat but way off in fitness as was moynagh who mixed the good with the dire. Thomas galligan did well after a shakey start. Probably might be a good point later on but we need to beat louth. Special shout out to ref Anthony Nolan from Wicklow who was simply dire. We got no rub of him today while Clare got huge amounts of soft frees. I can see now why they lock refs in the boot of cars in Wicklow.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: southtyronegael on January 27, 2018, 09:46:57 PM
how did mc gleenan do?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on January 27, 2018, 09:56:11 PM
Quote from: southtyronegael on January 27, 2018, 09:46:57 PM
how did mc gleenan do?

In fairness he brought on players at the right time and a few if them made an impact. It's just so hard to tell when you have a whooping 13 players today making their league debut!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on January 28, 2018, 12:59:43 PM
If we added McLoughin, Gunner, Martin Reilly and Gearoid to that team (all of whom are involved I believe), played David Brady inside ahead of Madden or McKiernan, started Thomas Galligan... We might have a decent shape of a team.

Itchy what did you make of Darragh Kennedy yesterday? I think he looked fairly at home. Good engine on him.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on January 28, 2018, 03:51:03 PM
Quote from: Westside on January 28, 2018, 12:59:43 PM
If we added McLoughin, Gunner, Martin Reilly and Gearoid to that team (all of whom are involved I believe), played David Brady inside ahead of Madden or McKiernan, started Thomas Galligan... We might have a decent shape of a team.

Itchy what did you make of Darragh Kennedy yesterday? I think he looked fairly at home. Good engine on him.

Not sure Westside, didn't heed him that much. But I will say all them new lads tried very hard even if some you would wonder about in long run. Good call on putting Brady at FF.  We didn't look like scoring with Magee and McKiernan in there.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on February 02, 2018, 10:52:54 AM
Seems like McGrath is going to have Louth attempt to bully our full back line. Grimes at ff is an absolute monster. Faulkner will probably pick him up but he can't be left isolated.

No team named by Mattie yet. Gamesmanship?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mrdeeds on February 02, 2018, 10:21:59 PM
1. James Farrelly (Kingscourt)
2. Niall Murray (Cavan Gaels)
3. Padraig Faulkner (Kingscourt)
4. David Phillips (Gowna)
5. Martin Reilly (Killygarry)
6. Ciaran Brady (Arvagh)
7. Enda Flanagan (Castlerahan)
8. Killian Clarke (Shercock)
9. Bryan Magee (Cuchulainns)
10. Dara McVeety (Crosserlough)
11. Conor Moynagh (Drumgoon)
12. Oisin Kiernan (Castlerahan)
13. Caoimhin O'Reilly (Butlersbridge)
14. Adrian Cole (Ramor United)
15. Niall Clerkin (Shercock)

16. Raymond Galligan (Lacken)
17. Stephen Murray (Cavan Gaels)
18. Conor Brady (Gowna)
19. Jack Wharton (Cornafean)
20. Cian Mackey (Castlerahan)
21. Conor Bradley (Ramor United)
22. Ryan Connolly (Drumlane)
23. Gearoid McKiernan (Swanlinbar)
24. Thomas Galligan (Lacken)
25. Sean McCormack (Ballyhaise)
26. David Brady (Ballyhaise)
27. Sean Johnston (Cavan Gaels)
28. Paul Gilcreest (Lavey)

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on February 02, 2018, 10:51:36 PM
Niall McKiernan and Madden gone. Hopefully gearoid gets a run tomorrow.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mrdeeds on February 02, 2018, 11:30:43 PM
Don't think Gearoid is near fit. Couple players also be playing club Ulster 21. Galligan and Brady.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on February 03, 2018, 08:45:29 AM
Quote from: Itchy on February 02, 2018, 10:51:36 PM
Niall McKiernan and Madden gone. Hopefully gearoid gets a run tomorrow.

Didn't know Madden left panel.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on February 03, 2018, 09:03:55 AM
Quote from: tommysmith on February 03, 2018, 08:45:29 AM
Quote from: Itchy on February 02, 2018, 10:51:36 PM
Niall McKiernan and Madden gone. Hopefully gearoid gets a run tomorrow.

Didn't know Madden left panel.

I didn't mean that i meant gone from match day panel. No idea if hes been removed from the panel
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on February 03, 2018, 09:24:42 AM
Quote from: Itchy on February 03, 2018, 09:03:55 AM
Quote from: tommysmith on February 03, 2018, 08:45:29 AM
Quote from: Itchy on February 02, 2018, 10:51:36 PM
Niall McKiernan and Madden gone. Hopefully gearoid gets a run tomorrow.

Didn't know Madden left panel.

I didn't mean that i meant gone from match day panel. No idea if hes been removed from the panel

Ok cos McKiernan is supposed to be gone I though you meant Madden aswell.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on February 03, 2018, 02:16:15 PM
Quote from: tommysmith on February 03, 2018, 09:24:42 AM
Quote from: Itchy on February 03, 2018, 09:03:55 AM
Quote from: tommysmith on February 03, 2018, 08:45:29 AM
Quote from: Itchy on February 02, 2018, 10:51:36 PM
Niall McKiernan and Madden gone. Hopefully gearoid gets a run tomorrow.

Didn't know Madden left panel.

I didn't mean that i meant gone from match day panel. No idea if hes been removed from the panel

Ok cos McKiernan is supposed to be gone I though you meant Madden aswell.

I heard McKiernan stayed in Ennis after the team went last week? He was poor in the match, if he can't take that on the chin and come back better next week then let him off.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on February 03, 2018, 03:10:55 PM
Quote from: Itchy on February 03, 2018, 02:16:15 PM
Quote from: tommysmith on February 03, 2018, 09:24:42 AM
Quote from: Itchy on February 03, 2018, 09:03:55 AM
Quote from: tommysmith on February 03, 2018, 08:45:29 AM
Quote from: Itchy on February 02, 2018, 10:51:36 PM
Niall McKiernan and Madden gone. Hopefully gearoid gets a run tomorrow.

Didn't know Madden left panel.

I didn't mean that i meant gone from match day panel. No idea if hes been removed from the panel

Ok cos McKiernan is supposed to be gone I though you meant Madden aswell.

I heard McKiernan stayed in Ennis after the team went last week? He was poor in the match, if he can't take that on the chin and come back better next week then let him off.

Supposed to have had a bust up with management after game.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mrdeeds on February 03, 2018, 11:00:05 PM
David Philips and Oisin Kiernan looking like two good additions.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: southtyronegael on February 04, 2018, 11:56:43 AM
any official attendance for the game last night?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mrdeeds on February 04, 2018, 04:13:24 PM
Quote from: southtyronegael on February 04, 2018, 11:56:43 AM
any official attendance for the game last night?

Wasn't announced. A couple thousand at most.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on February 04, 2018, 08:03:55 PM
The visit of the horrible hoors from Meath next week. They've got 2 good results so far and the hammering of Clare puts out glorious draw in perspective. It's a shame it's probably too soon for Gearoid but maybe Mackey might start. Have to make sure we don't lose to them.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on February 05, 2018, 01:11:39 PM
Well the two teams we've got our 3 points from are rooted to the bottom of the table. Another 2 wins will surely see us safe and anything more will have us hunting for promotion.

Meath won't make it as easy for us to play football. We had acres of space on Saturday night. Meath are more physically imposing too and Cavan are back to small footballers. I wouldn't be too worried about Mackey and Gearoid starting on the bench, the team that finishes the game is more important. Club U21 over for Conor Brady and Thomas Galligan so good to have them as options.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mrdeeds on February 07, 2018, 07:52:56 AM
The Cavan lads on good form for DIT. I'd be worried about their heavy workload. Clifford injured for Kerry with all his football while Howard refused to play Sigerson.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on February 08, 2018, 11:12:33 PM
Meath fans really talking themselves up. Maybe I missed it but when did Meath transform from an average Div2 team to the next big thing in Leinster?  What's all this type based on. I think Cavan should just about beat them if they apply themselves properly.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on February 09, 2018, 03:40:03 AM
I dunno Itchy, you'd have to imagine they're a wee bit more seasoned and settled than us all the same. This could be the first of a few games that offer us a yardstick to measure where we're at currently. It being Meath you'd dearly love to bate the hoors out the gate but I've a feeling midtable is the extent of our capability and we might have to suck this one up and put it down to experience.

Would love a nice feed of humble pie after that prediction though, and leave the sour grapes to d'ryals - grapes with stones in them, naturally.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on February 09, 2018, 10:00:52 PM
Every single pundit, review, internet post is tipping Meath. So much so that I'm believing it myself. This can only be a good thing for us.

This is the real test of where we are, I hope we absolutely tear into them. If they're as good as they think they are then they'll beat us but we should make them earn those two points.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on February 09, 2018, 10:10:12 PM
Here, what's the story with Oisin Kiernan? Why did he move to Castlerahan? A former Meath Junior.... I'm dubious we might have another Nesty Smith on our hands.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on February 09, 2018, 10:26:36 PM
Quote from: Westside on February 09, 2018, 10:00:52 PM
Every single pundit, review, internet post is tipping Meath. So much so that I'm believing it myself. This can only be a good thing for us.

This is the real test of where we are, I hope we absolutely tear into them. If they're as good as they think they are then they'll beat us but we should make them earn those two points.

Where does all this hype about Meath come from? Like what have they done at any level in recent times to warrant it. They've been a div 2 team for ages and couldn't get out. They are the 3rd best team in a poor province.  I hope their players believe this auld shite and as you say we tear into them. All any cavan man should need is to see that green jersey to get the blood pumping.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mrdeeds on February 10, 2018, 02:42:09 PM
Quote from: Westside on February 09, 2018, 10:10:12 PM
Here, what's the story with Oisin Kiernan? Why did he move to Castlerahan? A former Meath Junior.... I'm dubious we might have another Nesty Smith on our hands.

Fell out with club. Both parents are from Cavan. Half of Ballinacree in Cavan anyway.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mrdeeds on February 10, 2018, 03:02:08 PM
There one change to 15 that announced.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on February 10, 2018, 08:15:28 PM
Quote from: mrdeeds on February 10, 2018, 03:02:08 PM
There one change to 15 that announced.

Care to share?

Would have rathered play them tonight.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on February 11, 2018, 04:04:09 AM
Quote from: Itchy on February 09, 2018, 10:26:36 PM

Where does all this hype about Meath come from? Like what have they done at any level in recent times to warrant it. They've been a div 2 team for ages and couldn't get out. They are the 3rd best team in a poor province.  I hope their players believe this auld shite and as you say we tear into them. All any cavan man should need is to see that green jersey to get the blood pumping.

You'd hope the derby nature of it would level it out and as you say if we tear into them we might pinch it, but they tanked Clare and were very competitive against a Roscommon team likely to go up, and that formline makes their confidence justified I think. We've a very new look team sprinkled with experience but we're not far enough down the road for this test I think. But you never know and here's hoping!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on February 11, 2018, 10:46:49 PM
Results today were perfect for us, such a pity our game couldn't go ahead. A win would have us topping the table. Heading to Cork in 2 weeks time will be a tough task and they look to be getting stronger as the league progresses. Still on the bright side, Mackey and Gearoid will have another week to get back to fitness and Enda Flanagan/Caoimhin Reilly will get a bit of a rest.

Division 2 is wiiiide open.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on February 16, 2018, 10:29:18 AM
I thought cavan hoganstand forum was bad but I've just read the Meath version and I've got a headache now. Hard to imagine it was possible by chance to get so many idiots in one place at the same time.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mrdeeds on February 17, 2018, 01:24:17 PM
No team named yet. Imagine couple changes anyway. Enda Flanagan probably out. Missed DIT semi. Pity for him after 2 3 in quarter from wing back. Galligan probably be in goals. Not sure how close Mackey, Johnson and McKiernan are to starting.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mrdeeds on February 18, 2018, 06:25:45 PM
Great result and if I'm honest never saw it coming. McVeety was MOTM for me. Even at end carried through tackles. Really like the look of David Philips. Old fashioned corner back. Gearoid looks mobile but usually does on heavy pitch. Caomhin Reilly is what we've needed for so long and with college football done should be even more energetic in future. Nearly safe I'd say and if we win against Cork we're looking up. Though Cillian Clarke played as well as he has in a long time and he done well at midfield breaking ball where Moynagh and Martin Reilly were very sharp. Holla goal unreal. The mark from Gearoid, the kick pass from Mackey and then the finish.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on February 18, 2018, 07:32:22 PM
That was good for the heart. We're better than Meath, comfortably better on today's showing. Our big players are doing well. Caoimhin was fantastic again, the ball stuck almost every time. Gearoid and Mackey linked up well. Martin Reilly was excellent in defence. McVeety was quiet early on but had enough in reserve to make a few fantastic raids forward to ease pressure at the end.
I'd like to see a bit more from Magee. Moynagh needs to be fitter, Connolly was poor once again when he came on, Johnston would have been a better option to get an insurance score surely.
Overall though things look good. McGleenan didn't put a foot wrong today. His decision to stick with Clerkin seems a good one, hope he's fit again for next week.

On another note, the surface in Breffni is shocking. I know the weather has been rough but it looked like a bad club pitch today.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mrdeeds on February 18, 2018, 07:40:40 PM
Being an issue for a few years. It's past its lifecycle since being put down. It's finally being done after league and probably wil be out of use for rest of year.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on February 18, 2018, 07:41:51 PM
Quote from: cavanmaniac on February 11, 2018, 04:04:09 AM
Quote from: Itchy on February 09, 2018, 10:26:36 PM

Where does all this hype about Meath come from? Like what have they done at any level in recent times to warrant it. They've been a div 2 team for ages and couldn't get out. They are the 3rd best team in a poor province.  I hope their players believe this auld shite and as you say we tear into them. All any cavan man should need is to see that green jersey to get the blood pumping.

You'd hope the derby nature of it would level it out and as you say if we tear into them we might pinch it, but they tanked Clare and were very competitive against a Roscommon team likely to go up, and that formline makes their confidence justified I think. We've a very new look team sprinkled with experience but we're not far enough down the road for this test I think. But you never know and here's hoping!

Sweet sweet victory but like I said Meath are no great shakes. For some reason they suddenly thought they were but clearly they are not
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on February 19, 2018, 02:29:02 AM
You were spot on itchy! Delighted with that I must say. It's a far cry from the doomsday/death knell stuff of January and we look to be going in the right direction again. One more big result and we're in the mix for promotion. It's going to be a very interesting finish.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: southtyronegael on February 19, 2018, 11:07:04 AM
can we have mc gleenan back lads? will do a straight swap for him with mickey harte.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on February 19, 2018, 11:47:49 AM
Quote from: southtyronegael on February 19, 2018, 11:07:04 AM
can we have mc gleenan back lads? will do a straight swap for him with mickey harte.

There's still lots that would let you have him for free...
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on February 25, 2018, 05:13:41 PM
Quote from: cavanmaniac on February 19, 2018, 02:29:02 AM
You were spot on itchy! Delighted with that I must say. It's a far cry from the doomsday/death knell stuff of January and we look to be going in the right direction again. One more big result and we're in the mix for promotion. It's going to be a very interesting finish.

We've got it.  What do we need to go back up?  Down next saturday should be exciting.  Pray McVitee hasn't picked up an injury that hasn't been masked up by the adrenaline of thee day.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mrdeeds on February 25, 2018, 05:16:45 PM
Quote from: Denn Forever on February 25, 2018, 05:13:41 PM
Quote from: cavanmaniac on February 19, 2018, 02:29:02 AM
You were spot on itchy! Delighted with that I must say. It's a far cry from the doomsday/death knell stuff of January and we look to be going in the right direction again. One more big result and we're in the mix for promotion. It's going to be a very interesting finish.

We've got it.  What do we need to go back up?  Down next saturday should be exciting.  Pray McVitee hasn't picked up an injury that hasn't been masked up by the adrenaline of thee day.

Will need to beat either Roscommon or Tipperary.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on February 25, 2018, 11:31:07 PM
Credit where it's due, Mattie has done a fantastic job in having us safe after 4 games and in with a shot at promotion. Clearly he has the players pulling hard with him and I don't recall a cavan team going to cork and winning before. So delighted to be proven wrong.

Down will not be easy as they will not want to slide into relegation battle and they've come to breffni and won before. Anyway it's great to have a bit of positivity about the place.

Anyone make the match, couldn't go myself.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tierworker blue on February 26, 2018, 12:54:16 AM
I was below. Great to get the win and it was well deserved!
I didn't get to Ennis, but I was at all the rest and there is a good consistency to the performances, which continued today.
That was the problem with last year...far too much chopping and changing and a different team sheet every week. We simply did not have a settled team. What we are seeing this year looks a lot more settled and the results so far are proving that right.

We played a really good first half, into a strong breeze. Cork were playing 13/14 behind the ball a lot of the time, which was hard to break down, but we chipped away. We fell away a bit in the second half, and were a fair bit more meandering in the first two thirds. It invited Cork onto us more than we needed. In fairness though, we defended well and gave away very few frees. We weathered the storm and if anyone was going to rattle the net it should have been us. Moynagh pulled a shot wide and both Galligan and Martin R had good efforts cleared off the line. Cork didn't really have any solid goal chances, but they did put a lot of scoreable point efforts wide. If they had been more clinical at that stage of the match, the gap could have been a whole lot tighter.

The last time I was there was a horrible h***r of a day in the qualifiers, so it is great to finally put that demon to rest!

I'll have to say that I'd prefer Galligan goals, purely for his restarts. Farrelly is a good keeper, no doubt, but his kick outs just aren't as accurate. We gave a few scores away, that came from poor restarts. When Murray came on, he worked really hard to make himself available for kick outs on a few occasions and he was picked out well, but there wasn't enough of it. Unless you really have no other options, the days of just hitting it in a lad's general direction are gone.

Ado Cole scored two lovely points (one under serious pressure) but I'm not convinced that he is the ff that we need. A decent footballer, no doubt, but he's a bit scattery betimes. I'd like to perhaps see David Brady getting a decent run in that position.

The pitch was in s***e...it was more beach than field and cut up very badly. I don't know how they played the hurling after, without losing the sliotar in some of the craters that appeared!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on March 11, 2018, 07:33:49 PM
What's the predictions for the league finale lads??

To go 5 games unbeaten, 4 wins on the trot.. It would be a crying shame not to get promoted now. I think it will come down to a big game between ourselves and Tipp in Breffni to decide who goes up.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Look-Up! on March 11, 2018, 07:53:56 PM
Quote from: Westside on March 11, 2018, 07:33:49 PM
What's the predictions for the league finale lads??

To go 5 games unbeaten, 4 wins on the trot.. It would be a crying shame not to get promoted now. I think it will come down to a big game between ourselves and Tipp in Breffni to decide who goes up.

Only game that counts is the Roscommon match. This is the one I want us to get promotion from. If Roscommon lose it effectively blows their chance of promotion so they have to throw everything at us. We have something to prove to ourselves as well when it comes to the Rossies so if ever there was a league game to test our championship pulse then this is it.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on March 11, 2018, 08:05:39 PM
Very impressed with the year so far. That match yesterday was always going to be tough and I saw that murray and mcpbillips were missing at start and then the huge blow that killian wouldn't start I was sure that we'd be bet but there's a new steel in the team and along with timely subs and hit players stepping up we found a way to win. Mattie said he wanted to set one thing right this year - make breffni a fortress again. I hope he now focus on setting one other thing straight, getting one over our bogey team Roscommon. I know they've quality forwards but they are weak enough elsewhere. Down bet them and a very poor Meath team took a point. If we get well set up and up for the game no reason we couldn't set a few things straight. Hopefully so anyway
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on March 11, 2018, 09:48:05 PM
Lads what about Conor Brady being taken off early? Shades of last year's rashness from the line or the right decision? I know decisions are justified by the 2 points but...
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on March 11, 2018, 11:51:46 PM
Quote from: Look-Up! on March 11, 2018, 07:53:56 PM
Only game that counts is the Roscommon match. This is the one I want us to get promotion from. If Roscommon lose it effectively blows their chance of promotion so they have to throw everything at us. We have something to prove to ourselves as well when it comes to the Rossies so if ever there was a league game to test our championship pulse then this is it.

You wrote my post for me. My feelings exactly, I'm sick to me shite of losing to Roscommon in big matches. No disrespect to an opponent that's evenly matched with us but why we capitulate against them time and again bewilders me, so it would be a nice feather in the hat - after a very positive year so far - to get that monkey off our backs as well and claim promotion in the process. It would leave us under no pressure on the final day also, but look - let's not get ahead of ourselves, it's only three months ago we were fearing relegation and talking in terms of meltdown behind the scenes.

It should be played at championship pitch too so it will be a great developer for the team and give us supporters a great insight into the team. We seem to say this every game, every weekend, but this time it's true; the next test will be the toughest so far, and then the one after that, with Tipp, even tougher again.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on March 12, 2018, 09:47:24 AM
Fair point lads, to get the Roscommon monkey off our backs and get promoted too would be a huge boost. Personally I think they're a better side and I'd be surprised if we won but the lads have met every challenge put in front of them so far.

Looking at the score differences it looks like a draw won't do us and we'll need the 2 points to go up.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Look-Up! on March 12, 2018, 11:38:48 AM
Quote from: cavanmaniac on March 11, 2018, 11:51:46 PM
Quote from: Look-Up! on March 11, 2018, 07:53:56 PM
Only game that counts is the Roscommon match. This is the one I want us to get promotion from. If Roscommon lose it effectively blows their chance of promotion so they have to throw everything at us. We have something to prove to ourselves as well when it comes to the Rossies so if ever there was a league game to test our championship pulse then this is it.

You wrote my post for me. My feelings exactly, I'm sick to me shite of losing to Roscommon in big matches. No disrespect to an opponent that's evenly matched with us but why we capitulate against them time and again bewilders me, so it would be a nice feather in the hat - after a very positive year so far - to get that monkey off our backs as well and claim promotion in the process. It would leave us under no pressure on the final day also, but look - let's not get ahead of ourselves, it's only three months ago we were fearing relegation and talking in terms of meltdown behind the scenes.

It should be played at championship pitch too so it will be a great developer for the team and give us supporters a great insight into the team. We seem to say this every game, every weekend, but this time it's true; the next test will be the toughest so far, and then the one after that, with Tipp, even tougher again.

We've struggled against teams like Roscommon and in championship in general. The way I look at it is this. We have had a lack of pace in the team for a long time, especially up front. We've been very structured in our defending too with plenty of cover back in the danger zone. We've looked good in league on heavier pitches against teams that don't run at you in numbers. Defenders can get comfortable and when a team suddenly runs at you more than you're used to it leads to confusion and panic. When two defenders in proximity have a lad run at them they may leave the tackle to the other defender which gives the runner an advantage to get goal side. Tackling after this point you're over committing and if you do manage to stop him will result in a foul. I think our understanding and tackling in defense has improved. More pace has been introduced too especially in attack and we look more mobile. If we are coughing up more scores in defense hopefully we have now more artillery to go toe to toe with teams in a more open game. The game against Roscommon will tell a lot on our development. So too will the Championship when pitches are drier.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mrdeeds on March 12, 2018, 05:02:31 PM
Oisin Kiernan being a great addition. Can take a point and a good kick passer. Squad is still bit shallow which Down game proved where we almost ran out of backs and Enda Flanagan playing corner back. Philips big loss and Murray and will need both for our two toughest tests. Heard over weekend that Philips is over 30. I actually thought he a young lad. He's being so impressive. Midfield is shallow too. What is the story with Buchannnan.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: southtyronegael on March 12, 2018, 11:41:26 PM
any attendance from the down game lads?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on March 12, 2018, 11:47:14 PM
Quote from: southtyronegael on March 12, 2018, 11:41:26 PM
any attendance from the down game lads?

Didn't see anything official but I'd guess around 6000.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: southtyronegael on March 13, 2018, 12:15:20 AM
thanks.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mrdeeds on March 17, 2018, 03:08:14 PM
Fergal Reilly back training. Good addition with injuries in back positions and improves squad.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Look-Up! on March 20, 2018, 07:58:20 PM
Disappointing result at weekend but it was a great battle all the same. A bit more cuteness and maybe leadership/experience we'll be winning those sort of games. Massive test now against Tipp. Really hope we respond well and we get a repeat of our last showdown with Galway. These are the sort of games can really bring lads on and we're not a million miles away.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: oliverkelly on March 20, 2018, 08:55:12 PM
No Cavan have made great improvement this year under McGleenan who I hold my hands up and doubted especially after a poor preseason and poor year last year his first I know.
Playing a better style of football this year and with a bit of luck last Sunday ye could have beaten us. Best of luck at the weekend hopefully we will be meeting in croker in a few weeks. Regardless of this weekend i think ye have a great chance against Donegal
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Look-Up! on March 21, 2018, 11:23:23 AM
Quote from: oliverkelly on March 20, 2018, 08:55:12 PM
No Cavan have made great improvement this year under McGleenan who I hold my hands up and doubted especially after a poor preseason and poor year last year his first I know.
Playing a better style of football this year and with a bit of luck last Sunday ye could have beaten us. Best of luck at the weekend hopefully we will be meeting in croker in a few weeks. Regardless of this weekend i think ye have a great chance against Donegal

Thanks Oliver. Good luck to you at weekend too and I'd be surprised if you don't go up at this stage. If we do go up we more than likely will be playing ye in the final so that would certainly be a mouth watering prospect. I think new personnel wise, we certainly have the potential to improve on where we've been at, but until we actually take that step it's still only unrealized potential at this stage. Donegal is a big one for us. We have a great chance surely against them if our 15 click but despite their struggles their panel is much much stronger than ours and some of their starting forwards are all star material. So we'll need a lot to go right.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on March 21, 2018, 01:29:37 PM
Quote from: oliverkelly on March 20, 2018, 08:55:12 PM
No Cavan have made great improvement this year under McGleenan who I hold my hands up and doubted especially after a poor preseason and poor year last year his first I know.
Playing a better style of football this year and with a bit of luck last Sunday ye could have beaten us. Best of luck at the weekend hopefully we will be meeting in croker in a few weeks. Regardless of this weekend i think ye have a great chance against Donegal

We are still weaker than we were in 2016 IMO. Mattie has done ok this year but our first serious test was Roscommon and we failed. Lose to Tipp on Sunday and we're proven to be a decent Div 2 side. Which is worse than where we were when he took over.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Look-Up! on March 21, 2018, 03:39:34 PM
Quote from: Westside on March 21, 2018, 01:29:37 PM
Quote from: oliverkelly on March 20, 2018, 08:55:12 PM
No Cavan have made great improvement this year under McGleenan who I hold my hands up and doubted especially after a poor preseason and poor year last year his first I know.
Playing a better style of football this year and with a bit of luck last Sunday ye could have beaten us. Best of luck at the weekend hopefully we will be meeting in croker in a few weeks. Regardless of this weekend i think ye have a great chance against Donegal

We are still weaker than we were in 2016 IMO. Mattie has done ok this year but our first serious test was Roscommon and we failed. Lose to Tipp on Sunday and we're proven to be a decent Div 2 side. Which is worse than where we were when he took over.

True although I'd say your assessment of Sunday might be a bit harsh. Sometimes when you lose it's doesn't necessarily have to be a failure but more a case of being beaten by the better team on the day. And you need a bit of luck too which we got in 2016. Worst case scenario I can live with being a decent Division 2 side with a young healthy panel, hopefully some experienced lads to rejoin and plenty of talented underage players to come through. It's a long cry from where we were before the previous man took over.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on March 21, 2018, 04:54:39 PM
I thought we would pip Roscommon and they pipped us. Either way there was sweet FA in it at the end. I think it will be the same the next day so hopefully we get the rub of the green.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on March 24, 2018, 05:25:05 PM
U17s bet 3 games out of 3 in Ulster league. 4 points against monaghan and 7 today against Armagh. What's going on with that team?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on March 25, 2018, 11:56:17 AM
I think they're saying the squad is only coming together very recently because the Rannafast lads are coming back in after the AISF
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on March 26, 2018, 10:21:10 PM
Well a very unlikely promotion secured with a real beauty of a point. Delighted for Madden, he's lot of ability but I fear was treated harshly last year. I hope he gets lots of confidence from that score. We actually played quite poorly. For me Mackey poor until past quarter, gearoid again on the big day went missing. It's incredibly our young players like mcvitty and holla that lead this team. Also couodnt understand caoimhin coming off he was lively as hell. That said Tipp are a very good team and very powerful. Westside I saw you say Johnson was good, I thought he was poor enough. Almost gave away a goal with a silly pass and dropped one short.

We could really do with the win on Sunday. A trophy badly needed at senior level. And a win might also banish this Roscommon hoodoo which is annoying as they aren't much different to us. We really need to go for it Sunday. What a lift it would be for the Donegal game to be div 2 champions
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: southtyronegael on March 26, 2018, 11:02:11 PM
congrats on the promotion cavan. super 8s have to be a realistic target for you boys now.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on March 27, 2018, 01:14:37 PM
Ah you can't blame Johnston for the goal Itchy, Tipp ran the ball the length of the field after the pass. It's not like he gave it away in his own gull back line.
His use is very limited now and you can really see that the game is too physical for him. But he was calm on the ball and picked out the right passes to get us moving at a crucial time in the game.

I agree that winning Sunday would be a huge boost. I was looking back at the 2014 League Final last night and there's only about 3 Cavan players still there from the starting team, yet Roscommon continue to edge us.

I think we'll need to see something excellent tactically from Mattie on Sunday. Roscommon won't kick the wides Tipp did when the game was in the melting pot.

Caoimhin probably has another few years conditioning ahead of him before we see his best. I thought Bradley looked out of his depth physically and was reluctant to have a go when he got within shooting distance.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on March 27, 2018, 02:01:18 PM
Not saying he was rubbish I just you over stated his influence when he came on. He did some good stuff but he also did some bad stuff. Mackey, who was poor enough in first 3/4, was the real dynamo in the last quarter I felt.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on March 30, 2018, 12:08:26 AM
If the Cavan team are lacking any motivation going into Sunday, throw on The GAA Hour with Steven McDonnell, Colm Parkinson and that dose from Derry and listen to their assessment of Cavan and our players...
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mrdeeds on March 30, 2018, 09:15:36 AM
Quote from: Westside on March 30, 2018, 12:08:26 AM
If the Cavan team are lacking any motivation going into Sunday, throw on The GAA Hour with Steven McDonnell, Colm Parkinson and that dose from Derry and listen to their assessment of Cavan and our players...

Absolutely no research done. Conan said we lost after bet Derry in Celtic Park. They said we've never got to a quarters. Said no inside forward threat.

Looking to Sunday would love to see Murray fit or Fergal Reilly in at corner back.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on March 30, 2018, 09:50:57 AM
Quote from: mrdeeds on March 30, 2018, 09:15:36 AM
Quote from: Westside on March 30, 2018, 12:08:26 AM
If the Cavan team are lacking any motivation going into Sunday, throw on The GAA Hour with Steven McDonnell, Colm Parkinson and that dose from Derry and listen to their assessment of Cavan and our players...

Absolutely no research done. Conan said we lost after bet Derry in Celtic Park. They said we've never got to a quarters. Said no inside forward threat.

Looking to Sunday would love to see Murray fit or Fergal Reilly in at corner back.

Considering we have no forwards we only scored 4 pts less than Roscommon and more than anyone else in the division. Anyway lads should show them on the pitch in Sunday.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on April 03, 2018, 02:27:34 PM
McVitty hammer done. What a balls up by the manager and I suppose the physio not to diagnose that and get him off the pitch. I would say highly unlikely to start against Donegal now.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mrdeeds on April 03, 2018, 03:25:10 PM
Quote from: Itchy on April 03, 2018, 02:27:34 PM
McVitty hammer done. What a balls up by the manager and I suppose the physio not to diagnose that and get him off the pitch. I would say highly unlikely to start against Donegal now.

Physio seemed to indicate for him.to be substituted. Looked like players decision but never should have being allowed. Manager needs to take control.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Duckquay on April 03, 2018, 07:31:10 PM
Hopefully the players will all be back with their clubs this weekend.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mrdeeds on April 03, 2018, 07:56:56 PM
Quote from: Duckquay on April 03, 2018, 07:31:10 PM
Hopefully the players will all be back with their clubs this weekend.

They will be. It's a GAA directive. Well some lads like McVeety won't and some might still be on beer.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Duckquay on April 05, 2018, 12:54:25 PM
McVeety out for the Donegal game.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on April 05, 2018, 04:18:22 PM
Such a loss. We haven't had a player in form like that in years.

Hard to see us getting a result in Donegal. Man for man they're better than us and we don't have a tactical genius at the helm to bridge the gap.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mrdeeds on April 05, 2018, 04:43:36 PM
Quote from: Westside on April 05, 2018, 04:18:22 PM
Such a loss. We haven't had a player in form like that in years.

Hard to see us getting a result in Donegal. Man for man they're better than us and we don't have a tactical genius at the helm to bridge the gap.

They've a lot of classy players and we're plugging our defence with lads who play as forwards for their clubs.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on April 05, 2018, 08:49:23 PM
Disaster and I'm afraid management team are at fault for the severity of the tear. All they can do now is give it a lash but can't see us winning that match.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on April 06, 2018, 12:06:44 AM
Have to agree, Itchy. Mattie has redeemed himself to a good extent this year so far but that decision  to not wrap McVeety in cotton wool as soon as he had so much as cracked a fingernail simply beggared belief. It's almost certainly cost us whatever small chance we had against Donegal in the first place but hopefully he'll come back for what proves to be a decent run in the qualifiers, after a few years of underachievement there.

I literally cannot come up with any sane reason why he'd have been left on. Very disappointing.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on April 25, 2018, 02:11:26 PM
I read over on hoganstand someone saying McVitty is back training? Seems very early, anyone know if its true?

Seniors playing Longford in Grandard on Sunday in a challenge
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mrdeeds on April 25, 2018, 03:47:51 PM
I'd be very doubtful. Thomas Galligan gone from panel.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on April 27, 2018, 04:26:41 PM
Quote from: mrdeeds on April 25, 2018, 03:47:51 PM
I'd be very doubtful. Thomas Galligan gone from panel.

Any idea why? Was his absence later in the league due to injury? He was nothing but impressive when he did come on...
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mrdeeds on April 29, 2018, 03:20:26 PM
Galligan dropped over playing a club u21 game. Cavan playing Longford today. A squad of 25 players only including three goalkeepers. https://twitter.com/moefitzpatrick/status/990589875241017344?s=19
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on April 30, 2018, 04:47:13 PM
St. Pat's are fairly flying these days. By my reckoning they are Dalton, Corn na nOg and Rannafast Champions this year? Can only be good for our underage teams at county level.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on May 05, 2018, 10:23:06 AM
An awful low key build up to the match next weekend. Not sure if thats a good or bad thing. I assume there is no chance McVitty will play and I am also assuming the team that played Longford was something of a ringer?

Anyone getting any vibes from the camp?

I am hoping its a bit like all the doom and gloom at the start of the league  that we all got sucked into and that it will all come good on the day.

On the more positive side its great to see our underage teams doing well. Pats winning all around them and then that great win for the U17s against Derry, a team that always produces top minor teams. Fermanagh next and youd imagine we should have enough to beat them.

And finally good luck to the ladies tomorrow on their quest for Div 1 - they surely deserve a bit of luck to get up given the mis fortune they've had in previous years.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: scoopmine on May 05, 2018, 01:39:54 PM
Mcvitty and Marty were training by themselves doing sprints during the week. It does seem quiet but I think that is because its the preliminary round. If we were to come through next week we are on the right side of the draw.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on May 06, 2018, 04:52:45 PM
Quote from: scoopmine on May 05, 2018, 01:39:54 PM
Mcvitty and Marty were training by themselves doing sprints during the week. It does seem quiet but I think that is because its the preliminary round. If we were to come through next week we are on the right side of the draw.

Martin Reilly? Is he injured??

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on May 08, 2018, 08:18:26 AM
Quote from: Westside on May 06, 2018, 04:52:45 PM
Quote from: scoopmine on May 05, 2018, 01:39:54 PM
Mcvitty and Marty were training by themselves doing sprints during the week. It does seem quiet but I think that is because its the preliminary round. If we were to come through next week we are on the right side of the draw.

Martin Reilly? Is he injured??

Yes, pulled hamstring.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Jbm on May 10, 2018, 10:57:47 PM
T. Galligan dropped after playing with Lacken Seniors not U21s. Mullagh pitch not playable on the Sunday (county players allowed play these rounds) match moved to Thurs night. County had a running session and Galligan missed the session. Absolute madness! We have a lot of players injured-carrying knocks-and we send a lad home for playing with his club.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on May 10, 2018, 11:07:35 PM
Quote from: Jbm on May 10, 2018, 10:57:47 PM
T. Galligan dropped after playing with Lacken Seniors not U21s. Mullagh pitch not playable on the Sunday (county players allowed play these rounds) match moved to Thurs night. County had a running session and Galligan missed the session. Absolute madness! We have a lot of players injured-carrying knocks-and we send a lad home for playing with his club.

Joke if that's true
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on May 11, 2018, 12:17:49 AM
Quote from: Jbm on May 10, 2018, 10:57:47 PM
T. Galligan dropped after playing with Lacken Seniors not U21s. Mullagh pitch not playable on the Sunday (county players allowed play these rounds) match moved to Thurs night. County had a running session and Galligan missed the session. Absolute madness! We have a lot of players injured-carrying knocks-and we send a lad home for playing with his club.

Jesus Christ.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on May 11, 2018, 01:14:24 PM
Quote from: Jbm on May 10, 2018, 10:57:47 PM
T. Galligan dropped after playing with Lacken Seniors not U21s. Mullagh pitch not playable on the Sunday (county players allowed play these rounds) match moved to Thurs night. County had a running session and Galligan missed the session. Absolute madness! We have a lot of players injured-carrying knocks-and we send a lad home for playing with his club.

Absolute madness. Another player in the long list that McGleenan seems to have driven away.

If we don't put up a very good showing and run Donegal close Sunday at the very least, his position should be reviewed. Turnover etc is far too high and he needs results and performances to justify his decisions.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mrdeeds on May 11, 2018, 09:59:22 PM
Galligan
McLoughlin
Faulkner
Murray
Martin Reilly
Holla
Moynagh
McGee
Killian
Mackey
Oisin Kiernan
Flanagan
Caoimhin Reilly
Gearoid
Bradley
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on May 11, 2018, 10:27:41 PM
As good as can be expected with Dara out, although we'll see with 10 minutes to go just how badly he's injured...
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mrdeeds on May 11, 2018, 10:52:23 PM
Martin Reilly is out I heard too. Probably be a few positional changes. Mcgee and Gearoid maybe.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on May 12, 2018, 11:35:22 AM
Is Magee there due to a lack of other options?

Don't know who McGleenan thinks he's fooling. Hasn't named the full panel in the media and says in interviews that Dara definitely won't be involved. Does he really think he's going to surprise Donegal by bringing on McVeety? Again, it's amateur stuff from him.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on May 12, 2018, 01:19:41 PM
Travelling in hope but def not with expectations of a win. There was a lot of negativity around the county before league and we all had to eat humble pie in the end. I'm hoping it's same this time as the run up has been totally negative so ideal preparation for the team. Then you have Martin McHugh blowing shite about the great players in Donegal - so we always have hope. We will need big games from all our lads, Gearoid will have to rediscover his form.

U17s with a game tonight too so hopefully they can do the business too.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on May 12, 2018, 07:29:32 PM
Minors into semi with tough win over Fermanagh.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mrdeeds on May 13, 2018, 10:51:48 PM
That was poor. Watched game back there again. Donegal u17s were bigger than our seniors. I said to person beside me our warm up was terrible. No intensity compared to Donegal. They were huge beside our lads. Our strength and conditioning needs to be questioned. Some lads who've being on panel for years are still not filled out. As for the game we were turned over for 1 5 in first half. Bradley and Caoimhin bet their men well in first half. Mad decision taking Caoimhin off which was not the first time that's happened. Killian Clarke tried hard and Gearoid too. Mackey tried to make things happen. Oisin Kiernan kick passing good and got on a lot of ball. Ado showed well when he came home. Gunner started well but then stupid yellow. No need to risk McVeety. Galliagan saved us aswell. No defensive structure at all and a lot of points kicked under no pressure. Also obvious no kick out strategy while Donegal always looked to create a free man or mismatch. Murphy is a joy to watch.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on May 14, 2018, 12:39:37 PM
Well that was a depressing match. Depressing in how far behind our players are versus theirs in pace, strength and know how. We beat many of there lads at U21 and now they look like giants compared to us.
Depressing as there was no defensive system in place. I mean I understand that we are trying to develop attack wise but we have to have a way to get ourselves back into a formation and have a plan of pressing Donegal players. It just looked so amateur.
Depressing that our attack was at a snails pace and totally reliant of Mackey, Caoimhin etc to come deep and beat two men to create an overlap. Donegal were so much more clever than us, always looping around and powerfully running from deep.
Depressing that hardly any support traveled.

So where to from here? There are big sharks swimming in the back door. The problem is we need a defensive system which we once had but now has been torn up. We need to work on one quickly but I dont think 4 weeks is enough to do that.


Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: scoopmine on May 14, 2018, 12:48:05 PM
Watching Micheal Murphy was a pleasure yesterday but as a Cavan man why was he unmarked the majority of the time. When the two sides huddled before throw in it looked like a minor team v a senior match. Turnover of players is a huge problem but the men playing yday gave their all and hopefully with a good draw we can progress. Hard to rate management.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on May 17, 2018, 04:05:48 PM
Was listening to the wearecavan podcast yesterday. It made for interesting listening but it was pretty depressing. Paul Fitz had a suggestion to get an independent person to go interview the lads who are not on the panel, the huge amount of players who do not want to or cannot play for us. See what the cause is and what could be done. I think that was a really good idea. We have no chance to survive in Div 1 next year unless we can get the best players in Cavan pulling together. It is really sad to think a county with our history and football heritage cannot get our best players out to the extent that people  from the county wont even bother go to watch them.

The comparison made to Monaghan, a smaller county with a lesser heritage, was stark. They don't lose players.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mrdeeds on May 17, 2018, 09:25:46 PM
Mattie reckons Dara should get the team ready for the qualifiers.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on May 17, 2018, 09:58:33 PM
Quote from: mrdeeds on May 17, 2018, 09:25:46 PM
Mattie reckons Dara should get the team ready for the qualifiers.

Thought that was a joke. Matty getting well paid to get players up for the matches.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on May 18, 2018, 01:14:12 PM
What about not allowing the vice captain to captain the team when Dara was out? A disgrace and a serious insult to Ciaran Brady, a lad who lives for Cavan football.

Mattie should go lads. We're a shadow of the 2016 side both in terms of personnel and performances.

We didn't do well in the championship under Terry but we never went out as meekly as we did last Sunday.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on May 18, 2018, 02:36:29 PM
Quote from: Westside on May 18, 2018, 01:14:12 PM
What about not allowing the vice captain to captain the team when Dara was out? A disgrace and a serious insult to Ciaran Brady, a lad who lives for Cavan football.

Mattie should go lads. We're a shadow of the 2016 side both in terms of personnel and performances.

We didn't do well in the championship under Terry but we never went out as meekly as we did last Sunday.

Its hard to know. The question is whether the lads wont join the panel as its Matty in charge or whether the lads are a useless shower and Matty done very well to get us to Div 1. I think either way he will get another year based on the promotion.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mrdeeds on May 18, 2018, 02:50:02 PM
Quote from: Westside on May 18, 2018, 01:14:12 PM
What about not allowing the vice captain to captain the team when Dara was out? A disgrace and a serious insult to Ciaran Brady, a lad who lives for Cavan football.

Mattie should go lads. We're a shadow of the 2016 side both in terms of personnel and performances.

We didn't do well in the championship under Terry but we never went out as meekly as we did last Sunday.

There a reason why he wasn't captain.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on May 18, 2018, 03:03:51 PM
Quote from: mrdeeds on May 18, 2018, 02:50:02 PM
Quote from: Westside on May 18, 2018, 01:14:12 PM
What about not allowing the vice captain to captain the team when Dara was out? A disgrace and a serious insult to Ciaran Brady, a lad who lives for Cavan football.

Mattie should go lads. We're a shadow of the 2016 side both in terms of personnel and performances.

We didn't do well in the championship under Terry but we never went out as meekly as we did last Sunday.

There a reason why he wasn't captain.

Is that a question or statement?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Duckquay on May 18, 2018, 04:01:50 PM
And then he goes and schedules training Sunday morning before the league games at 1.30.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mrdeeds on May 18, 2018, 04:03:26 PM
Quote from: Itchy on May 18, 2018, 03:03:51 PM
Quote from: mrdeeds on May 18, 2018, 02:50:02 PM
Quote from: Westside on May 18, 2018, 01:14:12 PM
What about not allowing the vice captain to captain the team when Dara was out? A disgrace and a serious insult to Ciaran Brady, a lad who lives for Cavan football.

Mattie should go lads. We're a shadow of the 2016 side both in terms of personnel and performances.

We didn't do well in the championship under Terry but we never went out as meekly as we did last Sunday.

There a reason why he wasn't captain.

Is that a question or statement?

Sorry should have read there is a reason why he was not captain.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on May 19, 2018, 01:46:00 PM
Quote from: mrdeeds on May 18, 2018, 04:03:26 PM
Quote from: Itchy on May 18, 2018, 03:03:51 PM
Quote from: mrdeeds on May 18, 2018, 02:50:02 PM
Quote from: Westside on May 18, 2018, 01:14:12 PM
What about not allowing the vice captain to captain the team when Dara was out? A disgrace and a serious insult to Ciaran Brady, a lad who lives for Cavan football.

Mattie should go lads. We're a shadow of the 2016 side both in terms of personnel and performances.

We didn't do well in the championship under Terry but we never went out as meekly as we did last Sunday.

There a reason why he wasn't captain.

Is that a question or statement?

Sorry should have read there is a reason why he was not captain.

Oh really? I'd be very surprised if it was any sort of disciplinary issue. Can you say what it is?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on May 19, 2018, 02:14:33 PM
Quote from: mrdeeds on May 18, 2018, 04:03:26 PM
Quote from: Itchy on May 18, 2018, 03:03:51 PM
Quote from: mrdeeds on May 18, 2018, 02:50:02 PM
Quote from: Westside on May 18, 2018, 01:14:12 PM
What about not allowing the vice captain to captain the team when Dara was out? A disgrace and a serious insult to Ciaran Brady, a lad who lives for Cavan football.

Mattie should go lads. We're a shadow of the 2016 side both in terms of personnel and performances.

We didn't do well in the championship under Terry but we never went out as meekly as we did last Sunday.

There a reason why he wasn't captain.

Is that a question or statement?

Sorry should have read there is a reason why he was not captain.

Send me a pm if you can't say on here
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on May 20, 2018, 11:59:57 PM
The statistics I've seen from Paul Fitzpatrick regarding player turnover are pretty stark. I think we were all aware of a fair amount of personnel churn but that really is jaw-dropping and some of those names there would be a massive boost to the team.

Hard to know, in a way, what to say about our senior team performance at the minute. We exceeded expectations by getting to Division 1 and felt maybe McGleenan was getting his act together, coupled with some ok displays in Division 1 the year before. On the positive side, the players he had there in the league were really pulling for him and the jersey and things looked to be progressing, albeit with significant flaws. But the nature of the loss in the final to Roscommon seems to have revealed those flaws to be deep structural fissures and the whole thing crumbled embarrassingly against Donegal. I didn't expect us to win there but the nature of the display was fairly indicative of both schoolboy type management and perhaps a lack of the player drive and spirit that was there in the spring - have the wheels come off entirely since the league final?

Anything less than a significant renaissance in the qualifiers and I honestly think Mattie should go. I'm never one for knee-jerk/manager merry-go-round stuff but going into Division 1 under the current setup, with no championship 'bounce' behind us, quite simply we'd be slaughtered and it might be better to have another man there in advance of that. Who that might be would be anybody's guess.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on May 21, 2018, 10:15:12 AM
Quote from: cavanmaniac on May 20, 2018, 11:59:57 PM
The statistics I've seen from Paul Fitzpatrick regarding player turnover are pretty stark. I think we were all aware of a fair amount of personnel churn but that really is jaw-dropping and some of those names there would be a massive boost to the team.

Hard to know, in a way, what to say about our senior team performance at the minute. We exceeded expectations by getting to Division 1 and felt maybe McGleenan was getting his act together, coupled with some ok displays in Division 1 the year before. On the positive side, the players he had there in the league were really pulling for him and the jersey and things looked to be progressing, albeit with significant flaws. But the nature of the loss in the final to Roscommon seems to have revealed those flaws to be deep structural fissures and the whole thing crumbled embarrassingly against Donegal. I didn't expect us to win there but the nature of the display was fairly indicative of both schoolboy type management and perhaps a lack of the player drive and spirit that was there in the spring - have the wheels come off entirely since the league final?

Anything less than a significant renaissance in the qualifiers and I honestly think Mattie should go. I'm never one for knee-jerk/manager merry-go-round stuff but going into Division 1 under the current setup, with no championship 'bounce' behind us, quite simply we'd be slaughtered and it might be better to have another man there in advance of that. Who that might be would be anybody's guess.

Personally I think we need a manager with a connection to those u21 players, the best of them need to be coaxed back into the panel. There are a few men that stick out for me and that is Peter Reilly, Ronan Carolan and Terry Hyland. Now we can rule Terry out I am sure as he has been there. I think Peter and Ronan together would be a step in the right direction and maybe try and get access to a progressive forwards coach from somewhere.

The alternative is to try and land a high profile external manager that would energise guys. Like when Paidi went to Westmeath etc. But the last time we tried to get a new manager when the dust settled we were left with Mattie vrs Banty. So we are not attracting big names. The only one I think that might be interested is Pete McGrath but things haven't been going so well for him lately.

I'm inclined to agree with your assessment on Mattie. He has done very well in some ways with what he has at his disposal but I do think he has some massive gaps as a tactician. No point getting rid until we are sure there is someone better we can get in.
Title: Cavan under20s
Post by: caprea on May 21, 2018, 09:22:42 PM
Anyone know why they are 16s for ulster. Seems big. Anyone with any insight? Any view on the price?
Title: Re: Cavan under20s
Post by: mrdeeds on May 21, 2018, 09:54:27 PM
It's curtain raiser to a senior game.
Title: Re: Cavan under20s
Post by: caprea on May 21, 2018, 10:05:18 PM
Quote from: mrdeeds on May 21, 2018, 09:54:27 PM
It's curtain raiser to a senior game.

Thanks but no exactly the insight I was hoping for.  :)
Title: Re: Cavan under20s
Post by: Itchy on May 21, 2018, 10:12:26 PM
No idea but maybe they in the preliminary? Also Donegal suppose to be taking it very serious. Cavan should have a decent team with last year's minors.
Title: Re: Cavan under20s
Post by: caprea on May 21, 2018, 10:17:27 PM
Quote from: Itchy on May 21, 2018, 10:12:26 PM
No idea but maybe they in the preliminary? Also Donegal suppose to be taking it very serious. Cavan should have a decent team with last year's minors.

Yeah prelim, Boyle's have them at 25s. Pricing it up as a Tyrone donegal 2 horse race
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on May 23, 2018, 02:06:43 PM
I don't know much about Peter Reilly except he was probably a bit unlucky with the 21s those years, and that the style he had the team playing was a bit defensive. Is that his hallmark tactic, or was it horses for courses due the personnel available I wonder?

But while we could definitely do with a stiffer spine and some tactical nouse I'd hate us to go back to an outright defensive style.  One thing is certain though, if we flop abysmally in the qualifiers - with Mattie bizarrely passing the torch/baton/buck to Dara McVeety in an interview I heard (wtf?) - then something should be done both to probe the player falloff issue as suggested by the Celt man, and probably with management too, because we have some more good young blood bubbling up and let's do something structurally/pre-emptive to prevent it ebbing away as well.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on May 27, 2018, 09:40:46 PM
Shocking hammering for the u20s today. Lots of good players on that team, I wouldn't expect us to take a beating like that.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: scoopmine on May 28, 2018, 01:36:50 PM
Wicklow away hopefully not a repeat of 2010 a wet horrible day in our history...
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on May 28, 2018, 03:03:55 PM
You couldn't afford to be confident after the Donegal effort but you'd have to think we'll win this surely. All about the manner of the performance though. If there's no reaction to Ballybofey then that's very ominous.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on May 28, 2018, 04:54:16 PM
I dont think Wicklow in Aughrim will be simple. Hopefully we go into it with the right attitude and not the sluggish rubbish we produced last year against a poor Offaly team.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: scoopmine on June 07, 2018, 06:00:22 PM
Panel not speaking to Cavan media after what was reported in the Celt. Be great if it galvanized the squad into a run.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Jbm on June 07, 2018, 09:55:54 PM
Who makes that decision to not speak to media? All it has done is brought more attention to the player. A bit childish.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on June 07, 2018, 11:20:50 PM
Pure f**king stupid. They'd want to wise up and perform on field
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mrdeeds on June 07, 2018, 11:28:43 PM
Quote from: Jbm on June 07, 2018, 09:55:54 PM
Who makes that decision to not speak to media? All it has done is brought more attention to the player. A bit childish.

Exactly. Now known nationally rather than locally.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mrdeeds on June 08, 2018, 04:10:40 PM
James Farrelly (Kingscourt)Killian Brady (Mullahoran)Padraig Faulkner (Kingscourt)Enda Flanagan (Castlerahan)Ciaran Brady (Arvagh)Conor Moynagh (Drumgoon)Martin Reilly (Killygarry)Sean McCormack (Ballyhaise)Killian Clarke (Shercock)Bryan Magee (Cuchulainns)Gearoid McKiernan (Swanlinbar)Oisin Kiernan (Castlerahan)Caoimhin O'Reilly (Butlersbridge)Dara McVeety (Crosserlough)Sean Johnston (Cavan Gaels)Raymond Galligan (Lacken)Cian Mackey (Castlerahan)Conor Bradley (Ramor United)Adrian Cole (Ramor United)Niall Clerkin (Shercock)Jack Wharton (Cornafean)Dan Wharton (Cornafean)Dónal Monahan (Drumlane)David Brady (Ballyhaise)Niall Murray (Cavan Gaels)Paul Gilcreest (Lavey
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Look-Up! on June 08, 2018, 05:52:16 PM
Quote from: mrdeeds on June 07, 2018, 11:28:43 PM
Quote from: Jbm on June 07, 2018, 09:55:54 PM
Who makes that decision to not speak to media? All it has done is brought more attention to the player. A bit childish.

Exactly. Now known nationally rather than locally.

True. I wasn't aware myself of the incident until the blackout was announced.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: scoopmine on June 12, 2018, 11:42:32 AM
Cormac Reilly is the ref and its in Brewster. Can't remember the last time we won a game with him in charge. We should be beating Down. Wicklow were awful it was a mismatch.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: five points on June 12, 2018, 11:44:20 AM
Quote from: scoopmine on June 12, 2018, 11:42:32 AM
Cormac Reilly is the ref and its in Brewster. Can't remember the last time we won a game with him in charge. We should be beating Down. Wicklow were awful it was a mismatch.

Wicklow, ironically, in 2010.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on June 13, 2018, 10:41:38 PM
Down will be hard to beat. Really need to see something good from Cavan in this game. Our performances since the middle of the league have been disjointed and poor overall.
I'd like to see Dara show some of that dominance he was showing prior to his injury too.

If we lose I hope it's the last we hear of Mattie's interviews. "Hot Summer"... Jesus wept.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: In hiding on June 13, 2018, 11:50:07 PM
Quote from: Westside on June 13, 2018, 10:41:38 PM
Down will be hard to beat. Really need to see something good from Cavan in this game. Our performances since the middle of the league have been disjointed and poor overall.
I'd like to see Dara show some of that dominance he was showing prior to his injury too.

If we lose I hope it's the last we hear of Mattie's interviews. "Hot Summer"... Jesus wept.
Quote from: Westside on June 13, 2018, 10:41:38 PM
Down will be hard to beat. Really need to see something good from Cavan in this game. Our performances since the middle of the league have been disjointed and poor overall.
I'd like to see Dara show some of that dominance he was showing prior to his injury too.

If we lose I hope it's the last we hear of Mattie's interviews. "Hot Summer"... Jesus wept.
Matties take on "Donegal only beat us by 3 scores" is quite creative. I thought Donegal won easily but now realise had Cavan only scored 3 more goals they would have won
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on June 14, 2018, 02:50:32 AM
A lot of disquiet about the Meath ref, but at least we got Wicklow out of the way while looking like the wheels have not come off as the Donegal display hinted at.

Down are no world beaters and are on a low but they might see Cavan as a good shot at a rehabilitation of sorts, or perhaps the arse has fallen out of their season already, who can tell until we see them in the flesh? Our own team are similarly somewhat imponderable. The fact that the most informed analysis on Cavan always tends to be retrospective in nature tells you a lot about the inconsistency and volatility of our tactics and cohesion - every game seems to be "Well, we'll have to wait and see". We roll the dice again and see if our numbers come up and we live to fight another day.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on June 16, 2018, 03:40:32 PM
Ladies football doesn't get much of a mention on here bit well done to the u14 girls who bear Dublin to win the all Ireland final today.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on June 21, 2018, 11:23:56 AM
Quote from: Itchy on June 16, 2018, 03:40:32 PM
Ladies football doesn't get much of a mention on here bit well done to the u14 girls who bear Dublin to win the all Ireland final today.

+ 1  (belatedly).
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mrdeeds on June 22, 2018, 09:23:49 AM
Killian Clarke out.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on June 22, 2018, 04:39:13 PM
Quote from: mrdeeds on June 22, 2018, 09:23:49 AM
Killian Clarke out.

Balls. Where's the team? Still not been named.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mrdeeds on June 22, 2018, 05:59:31 PM
Quote from: Westside on June 22, 2018, 04:39:13 PM
Quote from: mrdeeds on June 22, 2018, 09:23:49 AM
Killian Clarke out.

Balls. Where's the team? Still not been named.

Not out yet. Just heard Killian done the hammy.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mrdeeds on June 22, 2018, 10:17:27 PM
James Farrelly (Kingscourt)Killian Brady (Mullahoran)Padraig Faulkner (Kingscourt)Enda Flanagan (Castlerahan)Ciaran Brady (Arvagh)Conor Moynagh (Drumgoon)Martin Reilly (Killygarry)Sean McCormack (Ballyhaise)Bryan Magee (Cuchulainns)Oisin Kiernan (Castlerahan)Gearoid McKiernan (Swanlinbar)Niall Murray (Cavan Gaels)Conor Bradley (Ramor United)Dara McVeety (Crosserlough)Sean Johnston (Cavan Gaels)Raymond Galligan (Lacken)Cian Mackey (Castlerahan)Fergal Reilly (Castlerahan)David Brady (Ballyhaise)Niall Clerkin (Shercock)Jack Wharton (Cornafean)Adrian Cole (Ramor United)Dónal Monahan (Drumlane)Caoimhin O'Reilly (Butlersbridge)Stephen Murray (Cavan Gaels)Jason McLoughlin (Shannon Gaels
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on June 23, 2018, 11:12:11 AM
Midfield is weak, just not enough experience. Dropping Caoimhin presumably because of the system being employed, a huge mistake IMO. The most impressive forward prospect we've had in years, playing well, taken off inexplicably against Donegal, isolated and frustrated against Wicklow and now dropped. This is how we lose players.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on June 23, 2018, 11:31:44 AM
Quote from: Westside on June 23, 2018, 11:12:11 AM
Midfield is weak, just not enough experience. Dropping Caoimhin presumably because of the system being employed, a huge mistake IMO. The most impressive forward prospect we've had in years, playing well, taken off inexplicably against Donegal, isolated and frustrated against Wicklow and now dropped. This is how we lose players.

Agreed

At 3-1 Down are a great bet for this game. A lot of people saying Clarke has been poor this year. I believe that is totally wrong as he's been pretty much on his own in midfield. I think we could really struggle if down push up in our kick out, especially if galligan isn't in goals.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on June 23, 2018, 07:06:03 PM
That was awful, horrendous stuff. I would blame no Cavan player for dropping off the panel for having to be sent out to play like that.

McGleenan needs to go.

Hard to see us beating any provincial finalist. Especially with the 2 reds. But they should not paper over any cracks here, even with a full hand we deserved a defeat today. It would have at least given no credence to the way we played.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on June 23, 2018, 07:25:56 PM
On way home. Have to say our line has no clue and only for cormac Reilly we'd be out. Manager is a bluffer.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: redzone on June 23, 2018, 08:17:44 PM
Mattie on the radio after was buzzing. Cavan players prob never had that sort of positivety in their lives before
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Aaron Boone on June 23, 2018, 08:28:10 PM
Stop being so negative after a win.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Duckquay on June 23, 2018, 08:42:57 PM
Absolutely horrendous stuff.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on June 23, 2018, 10:09:34 PM
Quote from: Aaron Boone on June 23, 2018, 08:28:10 PM
Stop being so negative after a win.

Lad the win was a pure fluke. If I was from down I'd be sick. 2 black cards in a minute. Harrison was furious for his so I can guess it wasn't deserved and McKiernan got one for complaining to linesman. Johnston red was for a bit of handbags with moynagh. Then for me Down had a few stone wall frees in last few mins waved away that would have drawn the match. We were saved by a fluke goal.

Our "tactics"  from Mattie the bluffer was to play 14 behind the ball. But no one knew what they were at. All day we got 4 turnovers the whole match-pathetic stuff. Our counters were pedestrian and we had only 1 forward. It was like watching a poor junior team implement blanket defence for the 1st time. We are going no where and today was a stay of execution.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Targetman on June 23, 2018, 10:40:25 PM
Down man here, I didn't really give us much chance before the game but as the second half wore on I thought we would win this one then our keeper drops a clanger!! Thought the ref gave us feck all, didn't see what Johnston did to get sent off but good luck in the next round, a big improvement required!!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: SHEEDY on June 23, 2018, 10:42:21 PM
as a Down man i'm gutted we lost. thought we deserved at least a draw and extra time. everything seemed to go against us from black cards to red cards to injuries to key players and to the keepers mistake for the goal. any cavan fan that was there would know yous would need to improve big time to go much further. thought yous would have beat us handy but there wasn't much between the teams and on another night......
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on June 23, 2018, 10:44:51 PM
Quote from: SHEEDY on June 23, 2018, 10:42:21 PM
as a Down man i'm gutted we lost. thought we deserved at least a draw and extra time. everything seemed to go against us from black cards to red cards to injuries to key players and to the keepers mistake for the goal. any cavan fan that was there would know yous would need to improve big time to go much further. thought yous would have beat us handy but there wasn't much between the teams and on another night......

Wouldn't disagree. Mattie is a lucky manager. But God we were set up so stupidly today it was almost funny
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Smurfy123 on June 23, 2018, 10:47:54 PM
2 shite teams with 1 bad manager and a decent one
McGleenan = 3/4 club championship
Burns = Darragh cross relagated and more
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: banker on June 24, 2018, 01:37:48 AM
I didn't expect us to get within 6 points of Cavan today. I would be very concerened if I was a Cavan supporter as this is a very poor Down side. Down controlled today's game and should of had Cavan out of sight after 15 minutes in the 2nd half.

A mixture of poor decisions by the referee/officials and the Down players cost them today.

Connaire Harrison definitely deserved his black card. Pulled the Cavan defender by the ankle when he wasn't anywhere near the play and McKernan should be experienced enough to know not to be abusive towards an official.

Ryan Johnston did not deserve his red card. Was a bit of shoving to the chest between Ryan and the Cavan player where the Cavan player decided to take a dive and held his face.

Probably the end of Eamon Burns tenure as Down manager which has been poor but the problem lays deeper than the senior management team.

Mattie McGleenans tactics today were terrible and played right into Down's hands.


Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on June 24, 2018, 02:01:30 PM
Having had time to reflect, my mind hasn't changed much on this. The only way this game can be justified is if Mattie is trying to get over the hump of the first couple of qualifiers by any means necessary but plans to up the energy levels and revert to a fast counter attacking game as the games progress. I'm not confident that's the case...

This sort of game is doing damage to the Cavan team. The players understandably won't have any desire to return if this is what is ahead of them in Division 1 next year. The players we so desperately need to return to the panel understandably will have no desire to do so if this is what is ahead of them. It's suppressing the talents and development of the players.

There is no long term future in this style of play, merely a short term fix to get some results. It's not worth the cost. The Cavan County Board (preferably) or the players themselves (not ideal) need to step up here and say no more.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on June 25, 2018, 11:01:27 AM
Pretty much the worst draw we could have got. They are better than us and we are mentally brittle when it comes to Tyrone. Normally you would think Mattie being a Tyrone man might have some inside knowledge but I think we all know that there is nothing good there. All will be forgiven if we could somehow win this one but for me it is more likely a 10 point plus beating. Cavan should push for Brewster for this if they have that option open. They will be wiped out in Clones.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on June 25, 2018, 01:14:04 PM
Quote from: Itchy on June 25, 2018, 11:01:27 AM
Pretty much the worst draw we could have got. They are better than us and we are mentally brittle when it comes to Tyrone. Normally you would think Mattie being a Tyrone man might have some inside knowledge but I think we all know that there is nothing good there. All will be forgiven if we could somehow win this one but for me it is more likely a 10 point plus beating. Cavan should push for Brewster for this if they have that option open. They will be wiped out in Clones.

Completely agree. Think of the tanking we got in 2016 in the replay. That was with a better side and a good management team. Crazy to think that even with 15 behind the ball i can still see Tyrone tanking us.

Don't think I've ever seen such a universal backlash against a Cavan game. Hopefully after Tyrone put Mattie's 'tactics' out of their misery next weekend the ball will get rolling on showing him the door.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: scoopmine on June 25, 2018, 01:55:02 PM
Lads in all my time following Cavan games that was the worst I have ever seen. Worst draw as well because in my lifetime Cavan have never produced a shock. Our best players can't function in that system, we don't press the playr and any player moving at speed will get chances. Farrelly actually did well and Mackey coming on. Our midfield is slow and very slow. I have no time for Mattie. 
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on June 25, 2018, 05:10:56 PM
Quote from: scoopmine on June 25, 2018, 01:55:02 PM
Lads in all my time following Cavan games that was the worst I have ever seen. Worst draw as well because in my lifetime Cavan have never produced a shock. Our best players can't function in that system, we don't press the playr and any player moving at speed will get chances. Farrelly actually did well and Mackey coming on. Our midfield is slow and very slow. I have no time for Mattie.

I said the same to a friend yesterday, he asked why it was worse than the defeats to Cork, Wicklow, Longford etc...

It's hard to say why, we even won this game. But it was.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on June 26, 2018, 02:54:14 AM
Jesus lads, these are grim times. That stupid optimist inside me that always pops up a few days before a championship game is whispering that nobody gave us a ghost of a chance in Division 2 yet we got promoted, so is it possible we somehow, amazingly, pull some sort of magical rainbow out of our arses against Tyrone?

Then reality bites. This sudden changing of horses in mid-stream and reversion to a blanket defence (in appearance anyway, if not effect) is very symptomatic of what I alluded to in another post - there's never been a settled look or clear plan or direction from the top so far, and things now have the appearance of us trying everything and anything in the vain hope of avoiding defeats and clinging to some sort of respectability. It's like watching an inept handyman trying to level the legs of a table and going around each one in turn and only making it worse on each go.

It has all degenerated into a very depressing state of affairs and whereas before I thought Mattie had earned himself a crack at Division 1, it's quite clear now that it has all become a farce and he should be removed before any more damage is done. The question is, if he was all that was interested when we looked a healthier proposition after Hyland, who in God's name would be interested now? We'd have to look within the county. Have the players got any more go left in them for another fresh start after so long achieving practically nothing at senior level?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mrdeeds on June 26, 2018, 09:33:54 AM
The only thing is we are in division 1 next year so that should help. We need a big name, to get some of our better players back in squad. Then we need to surround him with top class, young dynamic Cavan GAA people like Jason, Peter or Finbar.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on June 27, 2018, 03:54:42 PM
Are we putting in an appeal for these red cards or whats going on?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on June 28, 2018, 10:09:51 PM
Dara and Conor's bans lifted. Now Mattie for the love of good God don't camp them in their own 45 for 70 minutes on Saturday...
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tierworker blue on June 28, 2018, 11:25:12 PM
Given what we've seen over the last while, that's pretty much EXACTLY what we're in for, I'd imagine!
We can live in hope of a change in tactics, but I wouldn't hold your breath... :-\
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on June 29, 2018, 11:42:25 AM
The Cavan Two available for the Tyrone game. 
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on June 29, 2018, 11:50:29 AM
Wonder is Clarke fit. Youd need his athleticism around the middle in this heat.

Jaysus I just hope they go for it, nothing worse than getting bet after playing such conservative crap like against Down.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on July 01, 2018, 10:35:11 AM
So what do ye think now?

On the face of it the result wasn't terrible in that it wasn't a hammering even though i think that's the worst Tyrone team in 15 years. They were there for taking.

However you can't get away from the fact that cavan were totally clueless and had no attacking system. No head nor tail to selections. Left Clarke on for 5 mins after he pulled his hamstring. I don't think this manager will bring this team on. County board need to be brave and do the right thing.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mrdeeds on July 01, 2018, 10:49:19 AM
He has to go but I think he'll get another year. For the reasons he got us up and didn't get hammered.

But he makes some strange selections and has no gameplan or knowledge how to implement one.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on July 01, 2018, 02:02:07 PM
I think you're right Itchy. He's not taking the thing forward and appears to be in damage limitation mode. There's a good crop of youngsters coming up at the minute (hopefully they see off Monaghan today in the minor) and if McVeety and Gearoid etc. can stick around to blend them in then there's hope for the future but only if we have someone of vision and imagination at the helm, who might even inspire a few more absentees to come on board. The best Matty can achieve at the moment  - if at all - seems to be to taking us back to ultra defensiveness and making us hard to beat, but that's going to move the needle the way we want. Will the county board press eject though? Probably only if someone within the county indicates they'll step up. There's nobody outside the county would want it I think and tbh, I'd be happier for us to look within anyway.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on July 01, 2018, 02:52:06 PM
Been a good crop of youngsters since 2011.. It's a different level to playing Senior Inter County football.

The u20's were brushed aside, and they are meant to be the future.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on July 01, 2018, 04:20:04 PM
 :o Isn't it still something to be positive about though? We ultimately won nothing with the U21s we had/have but we were knocking on the door a good many times, in fact were more or less there and yet contrived to come up short on a few occasions. Although underage success is never a guarantee of senior progress I'd rather have it than not, it's a no-brainer. Either way, I don't think Matty would be the man to manage it though.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on July 01, 2018, 04:43:52 PM
Quote from: cavanmaniac on July 01, 2018, 04:20:04 PM
:o Isn't it still something to be positive about though? We ultimately won nothing with the U21s we had/have but we were knocking on the door a good many times, in fact were more or less there and yet contrived to come up short on a few occasions. Although underage success is never a guarantee of senior progress I'd rather have it than not, it's a no-brainer. Either way, I don't think Matty would be the man to manage it though.

Problem with an outside man is he wont do whats best for Cavan (walk away) he will do what is best for himself. He will have to be pushed. It will probably come down to the players. Many are getting football at a level they probably wouldnt be if everyone was available so I dont think there will be that many on the panel that want him out.  What we need is strong leadership from the county board. Make a hard call. I seriously doubt we will get that either so you can expect to see Mattie back next year with more Fabulous, Class etc nonsense.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on July 01, 2018, 08:11:20 PM
Quote from: cavanmaniac on July 01, 2018, 04:20:04 PM
:o Isn't it still something to be positive about though? We ultimately won nothing with the U21s we had/have but we were knocking on the door a good many times, in fact were more or less there and yet contrived to come up short on a few occasions. Although underage success is never a guarantee of senior progress I'd rather have it than not, it's a no-brainer. Either way, I don't think Matty would be the man to manage it though.

Yes it was good of course , but the u21 success was won on a defense system . .  Then people weren't happy with the football at Senior level. Cavan went attacking and left the defence open.

Then Mattie decides to go defensive in the middle of the championship after shipping 4-16 and 2-20..
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mrdeeds on July 01, 2018, 08:19:33 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on July 01, 2018, 08:11:20 PM
Quote from: cavanmaniac on July 01, 2018, 04:20:04 PM
:o Isn't it still something to be positive about though? We ultimately won nothing with the U21s we had/have but we were knocking on the door a good many times, in fact were more or less there and yet contrived to come up short on a few occasions. Although underage success is never a guarantee of senior progress I'd rather have it than not, it's a no-brainer. Either way, I don't think Matty would be the man to manage it though.

Yes it was good of course , but the u21 success was won on a defense system . .  Then people weren't happy with the football at Senior level. Cavan went attacking and left the defence open.

Then Mattie decides to go defensive in the middle of the championship after shipping 4-16 and 2-20..

Defensive versus Wicklow. Fecking Wicklow.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Duckquay on July 01, 2018, 09:53:03 PM
Of all the u21 teams, I can recall one year where we had genuinely top class footballers. By in large we had the best and most effective system in Ulster and were the best prepared team. We didn't have the best players however and ultimately that's why we're at the level we're at. Mattie isn't helping either.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on July 01, 2018, 11:51:16 PM
Minors got sliced by Monaghan too, shouldn'ta opened me gob.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mrdeeds on July 11, 2018, 10:41:21 PM
I hear we're looking for a new manager.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on July 11, 2018, 10:43:46 PM
Quote from: mrdeeds on July 11, 2018, 10:41:21 PM
I hear we're looking for a new manager.
Hooefully
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mrdeeds on July 11, 2018, 10:49:21 PM
Quote from: Itchy on July 11, 2018, 10:43:46 PM
Quote from: mrdeeds on July 11, 2018, 10:41:21 PM
I hear we're looking for a new manager.
Hooefully

Think he's gone tonight.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Jim Bob on July 11, 2018, 11:35:13 PM
He's gone
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: the goal was on on July 12, 2018, 12:12:34 AM
Absolutely fantastic news,  :)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Captain Obvious on July 12, 2018, 12:16:59 AM
Who will likely manage Cavan now? a crossroads appointment for a county with loads of potential.   
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tierworker blue on July 12, 2018, 01:04:41 AM
The writing has been on the wall for a long time. Most of us knew that there was something missing the 1st year, but the 2nd one confirmed it. We've gone backwards during his tenure, but hopefully we can get a shape on things again now.

It would he great to see a few players coming back, before they're past it. 2016's team was the best in a long time, but dissolved as soon as Mattie came for various reasons. It'd be great to see a few of them give it another lash before it passes them by, along with the best of the young lads we have now. With a bit of a solid plan on the sideline, there is the makings of a fairly decent side there.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on July 12, 2018, 10:22:32 AM
I think it was the right call but I suppose i do feel a little sorry for him having got us promoted to Div1 with a team of newcomers. He seemed like a nice guy so best of luck to him where ever he goes. But I do think it was the right call as I think we would need something else to bring us on next year.

I personally feel the big push has to be to get the best players in Cavan back involved. I am talking about the guys who were on those U21 teams. Therefore I think it is critical we have someone that worked with them either as manager or as selector. I'm thinking Peter Reilly and Ronan Carolan here. Someone who could coax them back.

Do we want to spend mega bucks on a big manager. To put it in context Horan is supposedly getting 80k to manage Westport this year! To manage Cavan he would surely be looking for 100k plus. Would McEntee come over from Mayo or maybe he is looking to succeed Rochford.

If it were my call, I'd go with our own lads - Peter Reilly, Carolan, Mickey Graham, Jason Reilly or a combination of these and spend the money getting in good strength and conditioning guys.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: skeog on July 12, 2018, 04:45:00 PM
Peter Donnelly be interested in returning.Top man who knows his stuff.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on July 12, 2018, 07:38:03 PM
The WeAreCavan lads have done a brilliant podcast this week. And listening to it I think we need to make a big appointment, I don't think Jason Reilly or Mickey Graham or even Peter Reilly is the best appointment now. McGuinness said it on sky, Cavan need a scalp, they need someone who can get them to stand up and be counted. Cavan need to hear something that they haven't heard before and someone that will somehow make them believe they can get over the line. Combined with that, we need someone that will get the players not committing to reach for their boots.

Dig deep, fundraise in NYC, whatever it takes. Spend the money and get James Horan. Approach Jim McGuinness and see if he feels he has any business left in the GAA, one year even. Take a couple of scalps, get to an Ulster final and we could start something. Get Cavan believing we are a top team and not nibbling around the edges.

Those elevator doors to the top are closing very fast, the right appointment now and we could just squeeze in before it moves up without us.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on July 13, 2018, 04:47:49 AM
Not surprised Matty has moved/been moved on, things seemed to unravel this year after a promising enough start and not just in a results sense, but even more so wrt the lack of clarity in direction and tactical identity of the team, as the manager tried in vain to stop the bleeding.

Fully agree it's time to get a big name in but nobody was persuaded or asked before Matty got appointed, one or the other, so I don't know if it can be different this time around. A big name surrounded by a passionate Cavan core of selectors has the potential to get something going and keep us in Division 1 though so here's hoping.

The calibre of candidate we are linked with in the coming weeks will be very telling, both in relation to the county board's insight into the problem/true scale of their ambition, and also how we are perceived beyond our own borders by managers who would likely have their ear to the ground.

A friend of mine texted me earlier and said Matty was gone, and said "he was a very positive breath of hot air". ;D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mrdeeds on July 13, 2018, 08:28:30 AM
He was definitely positive to the point of ridiculous. After that Monaghan game in Blayney he described it as a great game of football. Candidates within county seem to Jason, Peter, Mickey and Finbar. Outside I'd say McGuinness is mad for a soccer job. Maybe someone like Horan or maybe a recently retired high profile player. Whoever the appointment is they need to get all the best players wanting to play including all the Gaels lads who have no interest.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on July 27, 2018, 03:22:48 AM
Some interesting tidbits from the wearecavan lads:

- Mickey Graham approached, interested but non-committal as yet
- Jason rumoured to have dropped out but still thought to be in the ring
- No other hard news on any other candidate approached although an All-Ireland winner from another country was linked as interested but couldn't be named, and the Celt lad tried to contact James Horan who still hasn't definitely said he's not interested.

There was an interview with the county board chairman:

- List of candidates slated to interviewed by committee on week of July 30th
- Noted hint of urgency in his voice and seemingly very aware that time is running out for this group of players to achieve something and that this needs to be the right appointment
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on July 27, 2018, 10:21:37 AM
Quote from: cavanmaniac on July 27, 2018, 03:22:48 AM
Some interesting tidbits from the wearecavan lads:

- Mickey Graham approached, interested but non-committal as yet
- Jason rumoured to have dropped out but still thought to be in the ring
- No other hard news on any other candidate approached although an All-Ireland winner from another country was linked as interested but couldn't be named, and the Celt lad tried to contact James Horan who still hasn't definitely said he's not interested.

There was an interview with the county board chairman:

- List of candidates slated to interviewed by committee on week of July 30th
- Noted hint of urgency in his voice and seemingly very aware that time is running out for this group of players to achieve something and that this needs to be the right appointment

Good luck to county board. It will not be a easy task. They have to be salesman as well as a recruiter. If they could pull off Horan or McGuinness that would be something amazing but I just cant see it. To me it will end up being an internal person and I am ok with that. The key thing is a man who can inspire the fellas who couldnt commit this year to get back in there.

Maybe a certain player will be leaving to be an elected official too. Sounds like a good idea to me.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on July 27, 2018, 11:46:52 AM
Some lads who "can't commit" may have trouble with irish sport council testing.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Look-Up! on July 27, 2018, 02:05:05 PM
Quote from: Itchy on July 27, 2018, 10:21:37 AM


Good luck to county board. It will not be a easy task. They have to be salesman as well as a recruiter. If they could pull off Horan or McGuinness that would be something amazing but I just cant see it. To me it will end up being an internal person and I am ok with that. The key thing is a man who can inspire the fellas who couldnt commit this year to get back in there.

Maybe a certain player will be leaving to be an elected official too. Sounds like a good idea to me.

Hi Itchy. Do you know what McGuinness is qualified to do for a living apart from the obvious coaching in professional sport he has been doing for the last few years? Seems hard to comprehend how we could afford to pay him to support a family solely on the Cavan job. Fair enough he combined the Celtic Donegal job but that was a coaching role with some flexibility. He's linked with the Galway United job but that is the top job so can't see how he could combine the two in this scenario. Also wondering how much money we're talking if we're competing with a LOI 1st division club for his signature.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mrdeeds on July 27, 2018, 02:10:05 PM
Quote from: Look-Up! on July 27, 2018, 02:05:05 PM
Quote from: Itchy on July 27, 2018, 10:21:37 AM


Good luck to county board. It will not be a easy task. They have to be salesman as well as a recruiter. If they could pull off Horan or McGuinness that would be something amazing but I just cant see it. To me it will end up being an internal person and I am ok with that. The key thing is a man who can inspire the fellas who couldnt commit this year to get back in there.

Maybe a certain player will be leaving to be an elected official too. Sounds like a good idea to me.

Hi Itchy. Do you know what McGuinness is qualified to do for a living apart from the obvious coaching in professional sport he has been doing for the last few years? Seems hard to comprehend how we could afford to pay him to support a family solely on the Cavan job. Fair enough he combined the Celtic Donegal job but that was a coaching role with some flexibility. He's linked with the Galway United job but that is the top job so can't see how he could combine the two in this scenario. Also wondering how much money we're talking if we're competing with a LOI 1st division club for his signature.

A LOI club that was the subject of a Saudi takeover.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mrdeeds on July 27, 2018, 02:10:43 PM
Quote from: Itchy on July 27, 2018, 10:21:37 AM
Quote from: cavanmaniac on July 27, 2018, 03:22:48 AM
Some interesting tidbits from the wearecavan lads:

- Mickey Graham approached, interested but non-committal as yet
- Jason rumoured to have dropped out but still thought to be in the ring
- No other hard news on any other candidate approached although an All-Ireland winner from another country was linked as interested but couldn't be named, and the Celt lad tried to contact James Horan who still hasn't definitely said he's not interested.

There was an interview with the county board chairman:

- List of candidates slated to interviewed by committee on week of July 30th
- Noted hint of urgency in his voice and seemingly very aware that time is running out for this group of players to achieve something and that this needs to be the right appointment

Good luck to county board. It will not be a easy task. They have to be salesman as well as a recruiter. If they could pull off Horan or McGuinness that would be something amazing but I just cant see it. To me it will end up being an internal person and I am ok with that. The key thing is a man who can inspire the fellas who couldnt commit this year to get back in there.

Maybe a certain player will be leaving to be an elected official too. Sounds like a good idea to me.

Cavan/Monaghan constituency or North Kildare?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Look-Up! on July 27, 2018, 02:45:20 PM
Quote from: mrdeeds on July 27, 2018, 02:10:05 PM
Quote from: Look-Up! on July 27, 2018, 02:05:05 PM
Quote from: Itchy on July 27, 2018, 10:21:37 AM


Good luck to county board. It will not be a easy task. They have to be salesman as well as a recruiter. If they could pull off Horan or McGuinness that would be something amazing but I just cant see it. To me it will end up being an internal person and I am ok with that. The key thing is a man who can inspire the fellas who couldnt commit this year to get back in there.

Maybe a certain player will be leaving to be an elected official too. Sounds like a good idea to me.

Hi Itchy. Do you know what McGuinness is qualified to do for a living apart from the obvious coaching in professional sport he has been doing for the last few years? Seems hard to comprehend how we could afford to pay him to support a family solely on the Cavan job. Fair enough he combined the Celtic Donegal job but that was a coaching role with some flexibility. He's linked with the Galway United job but that is the top job so can't see how he could combine the two in this scenario. Also wondering how much money we're talking if we're competing with a LOI 1st division club for his signature.

A LOI club that was the subject of a Saudi takeover.

So any idea how much we're talking here?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on July 27, 2018, 03:03:31 PM
Galway United have a new manager, Alan Murphy. Cavan wouldn't be competing with them. McGuinness got a nice pay off from his time in China. He had a 2 1/2 year contract, left after 6 months. He has own business , so wouldn't have be relying on the Cavan job either way..

That's if he take it at all.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Look-Up! on July 27, 2018, 03:33:33 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on July 27, 2018, 03:03:31 PM
Galway United have a new manager, Alan Murphy. Cavan wouldn't be competing with them. McGuinness got a nice pay off from his time in China. He had a 2 1/2 year contract, left after 6 months. He has own business , so wouldn't have be relying on the Cavan job either way..

That's if he take it at all.

What does he do?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on July 27, 2018, 04:01:58 PM
Quote from: Look-Up! on July 27, 2018, 02:05:05 PM
Quote from: Itchy on July 27, 2018, 10:21:37 AM


Good luck to county board. It will not be a easy task. They have to be salesman as well as a recruiter. If they could pull off Horan or McGuinness that would be something amazing but I just cant see it. To me it will end up being an internal person and I am ok with that. The key thing is a man who can inspire the fellas who couldnt commit this year to get back in there.

Maybe a certain player will be leaving to be an elected official too. Sounds like a good idea to me.

Hi Itchy. Do you know what McGuinness is qualified to do for a living apart from the obvious coaching in professional sport he has been doing for the last few years? Seems hard to comprehend how we could afford to pay him to support a family solely on the Cavan job. Fair enough he combined the Celtic Donegal job but that was a coaching role with some flexibility. He's linked with the Galway United job but that is the top job so can't see how he could combine the two in this scenario. Also wondering how much money we're talking if we're competing with a LOI 1st division club for his signature.

I think Cavan would need to be going to local business, maybe like Kingspan, for help to fund it. No way it could be afforded by the county boards takings.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: redzone on July 27, 2018, 04:12:59 PM
Banty is looking back into senior management
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on July 28, 2018, 12:48:29 PM
If Banty is the answer, it must be a very peculiar question.

I heard audio of McGuinness' analysis of Cavan before the Tyrone match and if nothing else, he was quite knowledgeable about the situation for an outsider, sounded enthused by cavan and if anything came over like he was giving a bit of a pep talk to the players from a 'management' or leadership perspective. That's a bit of a reach now I know, but it's on the podcast released after Matty went. Worth a listen.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on July 28, 2018, 03:10:05 PM
It won't be Banty the peacock. He didn't get it 2 years ago when it was only between him and McGleenan, so has no chance of getting it now. He seems like a manager keen to get any job going.





Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Duckquay on July 29, 2018, 02:14:04 PM
I'd imagine mcguinness will be approached and he would be a serious coup but I can't see it happening.
It will be a local man in all probability, one has already a potential backroom team in place and another is considering going for it or not. All to be finalised before the end of August anyway supposedly.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on July 30, 2018, 06:31:46 PM
Damien Donohoe on Twitter report Mcguinness a non runner and Peter Reilly declined to apply. Shame on both counts. That leaves Jason Reilly and Mickey Graham internal candidates. Not to mention the former groundsman who is also saying he will apply.

I heard nothing on outside men.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mrdeeds on July 30, 2018, 07:31:25 PM
Quote from: Itchy on July 30, 2018, 06:31:46 PM
Damien Donohoe on Twitter report Mcguinness a non runner and Peter Reilly declined to apply. Shame on both counts. That leaves Jason Reilly and Mickey Graham internal candidates. Not to mention the former groundsman who is also saying he will apply.

I heard nothing on outside men.

Outsiders are Horan and Connerton.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on July 30, 2018, 08:32:31 PM
Can't see Horan taking it either. He is managing Westport ,and couldn't give the commitment 2 years ago due to his work with Coca Cola.

The lads in the Celt clinging onto that he didn't rule himself out the last time.  It will be Mickey Graham or Jason

Horan also stated he couldn't see himself managing another County, bar Mayo,

Reilly.http://www.the42.ie/james-horan-can-only-see-himself-coaching-mayo-3834302-Feb2018/

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on July 30, 2018, 09:19:00 PM
Jesus lads we're left with Mickey Graham and Jason Reilly at the front of the queue... So so disappointing that this is who we're looking at. Surely there's managers that have done well with Dublin clubs operating at a high level that would be interested.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on July 30, 2018, 09:47:01 PM
Mickey will be the next Longford manager I think. Supposably his if he wants it and I would imagine it would be a easier ride compared to Cavan for his first intercounty job.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on July 30, 2018, 11:47:43 PM
Of all the inside candidates I'd have gone with Peter Reilly. Disappointed he withdrew.

Is Tony mcentee in the mix?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mrdeeds on July 31, 2018, 09:41:23 AM
Quote from: Itchy on July 30, 2018, 11:47:43 PM
Of all the inside candidates I'd have gone with Peter Reilly. Disappointed he withdrew.

Is Tony mcentee in the mix?

He was mentioned early on but no mention now.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on July 31, 2018, 12:09:54 PM
Quote from: mrdeeds on July 31, 2018, 09:41:23 AM
Quote from: Itchy on July 30, 2018, 11:47:43 PM
Of all the inside candidates I'd have gone with Peter Reilly. Disappointed he withdrew.

Is Tony mcentee in the mix?

He was mentioned early on but no mention now.

Word is that in Mayo there will be a lot of back room changes but Rochford is staying put.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mrdeeds on July 31, 2018, 01:04:25 PM
Quote from: Itchy on July 31, 2018, 12:09:54 PM
Quote from: mrdeeds on July 31, 2018, 09:41:23 AM
Quote from: Itchy on July 30, 2018, 11:47:43 PM
Of all the inside candidates I'd have gone with Peter Reilly. Disappointed he withdrew.

Is Tony mcentee in the mix?

He was mentioned early on but no mention now.

Word is that in Mayo there will be a lot of back room changes but Rochford is staying put.

Yeah new selectors anyway.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on July 31, 2018, 04:51:52 PM
Wouldn't have a problem with Mickey Graham getting it. He has proved is he is a good manager at Club Level after a poor spell as Minor manager. Back to back County titles with Mullinalaghta and unlucky not to reach Leinster Club final. He reached a Longford final with Clonguish too in 2011. Club titles with Butlersbridge and Drumalee.

He would get a good backroom team around team. I'd prefer him over Jason Reilly as manager.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mrdeeds on August 01, 2018, 09:46:26 AM
McEntee is stepping down from Mayo.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on August 01, 2018, 03:38:40 PM
Quote from: Westside on July 30, 2018, 09:19:00 PM
Jesus lads we're left with Mickey Graham and Jason Reilly at the front of the queue... So so disappointing that this is who we're looking at. Surely there's managers that have done well with Dublin clubs operating at a high level that would be interested.

I very rarely disagree with anything you post Westside, but i have to here.. I definitely don't want anything from Dublin unless its Pat Gilroy or maybe Pillar Caffrey. Andy McEntee for his success with Ballyboden has done nothing with Meath,and Ive heard some horror stories over  some former Dublin greats as managers.
Rodney,you're a Lacken man,how highly would Jason be rated in your club after winning the Intermediate Championship with them?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on August 01, 2018, 04:25:49 PM
He was ok. He was helped by Finbar Reilly,. Jason Reilly didn't seem great tactically, in the Intermedaite replay  Finbar Reilly was making the calls, and he was playing on the field.. He had success with Cavan Gaels last year. Crotty and Eamon Reilly would have been a help there. He would need good people around him , but most managers do.
Lacken was his first Job so he might have improved since then. He managed Belturbet after Lacken and got them promoted in Division 2, but they were involved in a Relegation play off that same year in Intermediate against Drung.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mrdeeds on August 10, 2018, 10:37:04 PM
Wow some start tonight in championship. Surely Conor Smith deserves a chance with county.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on August 13, 2018, 10:40:39 AM
Lots of interesting results at the weekend. Bailieboro beating Mullahoran, Gaels bet by Killygarry etc
Maybe senior will not be the simple Gaels win many predicted.
Also the U16s with a thrashing of Dublin in the Gerry Reilly Cup is nice to see. I suppose the Dubs players will go fully professional after their leaving certs and catch up!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on August 13, 2018, 04:36:29 PM
Anyone know what happened with Damien Donohoe and the Bailieboro players? Odd of him to mention it on twitter, not like him at all.

Great result from the U16s. If they can win it out with all the extra teams there now it will be a good result. Next year is their year at Minor so fingers crossed they'll be able to bring that form to Ulster same as last year's minor team yet.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on August 13, 2018, 05:39:24 PM
Quote from: Westside on August 13, 2018, 04:36:29 PM
Anyone know what happened with Damien Donohoe and the Bailieboro players? Odd of him to mention it on twitter, not like him at all.

Great result from the U16s. If they can win it out with all the extra teams there now it will be a good result. Next year is their year at Minor so fingers crossed they'll be able to bring that form to Ulster same as last year's minor team yet.

Not sure about Damien but it may be related to some stupid stuff their PRO was at, had a go at the celt when they won citing some article giving them little chance of the win. It was then pointed out to him that the article was from Gaelic Life ::)
I believe Damien did their Lip Sync for them too so its pretty crappy carry on if they had verbals with him after the game, maybe he is due an apology.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mrdeeds on August 13, 2018, 06:23:09 PM
Quote from: Itchy on August 13, 2018, 05:39:24 PM
Quote from: Westside on August 13, 2018, 04:36:29 PM
Anyone know what happened with Damien Donohoe and the Bailieboro players? Odd of him to mention it on twitter, not like him at all.

Great result from the U16s. If they can win it out with all the extra teams there now it will be a good result. Next year is their year at Minor so fingers crossed they'll be able to bring that form to Ulster same as last year's minor team yet.

Not sure about Damien but it may be related to some stupid stuff their PRO was at, had a go at the celt when they won citing some article giving them little chance of the win. It was then pointed out to him that the article was from Gaelic Life ::)
I believe Damien did their Lip Sync for them too so its pretty crappy carry on if they had verbals with him after the game, maybe he is due an apology.

Yeah strange behaviour from a club account. However I do enjoy Ballinaghs Twitter feed.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mrdeeds on August 15, 2018, 12:59:25 PM
Looking like Aidan O Rourke and Poacher for Cavan job. Also will have a world class S and C coach in Mike McGurn and one ex Cavan player involved too.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on August 15, 2018, 03:48:40 PM
Quote from: mrdeeds on August 15, 2018, 12:59:25 PM
Looking like Aidan O Rourke and Poacher for Cavan job. Also will have a world class S and C coach in Mike McGurn and one ex Cavan player involved too.

Sounds interesting. Any idea who the cavan player is?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on August 15, 2018, 04:12:18 PM
Not sure what O'Rourke has done to be considered. Or maybe that's where Cavan are at. He was a disaster with Louth a few years ago. Poacher very defensive.

If Cavan are looking outside the county. They should look outside Ulster
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on August 15, 2018, 04:43:47 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on August 15, 2018, 04:12:18 PM
Not sure what O'Rourke has done to be considered. Or maybe that's where Cavan are at. He was a disaster with Louth a few years ago. Poacher very defensive.

If Cavan are looking outside the county. They should look outside Ulster

I do t know but is it fair to judge anyone on Louth. They are a basket case
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mrdeeds on August 15, 2018, 05:58:11 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on August 15, 2018, 04:12:18 PM
Not sure what O'Rourke has done to be considered. Or maybe that's where Cavan are at. He was a disaster with Louth a few years ago. Poacher very defensive.

If Cavan are looking outside the county. They should look outside Ulster

Poacher defensive with Carlow. Cut his cloth accordingly but does some great attacking training with teams if needed.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on August 15, 2018, 10:17:41 PM
Carlow were starting from a low base in Division 4. Any half decent coach with a defensive plan could have set them up.
They looked awful against Laois in the league final.

Cavan are in Division 1 next year,so he would want some sort of plan.

I hope Mickey Graham gets it
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mrdeeds on August 16, 2018, 04:16:34 PM
Interviews done. Three interviewed. Mickey Graham, Aidan O Rourke and Michael McDermot. Will know by Monday.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mrdeeds on August 16, 2018, 09:27:55 PM
Quote from: mrdeeds on August 16, 2018, 04:16:34 PM
Interviews done. Three interviewed. Mickey Graham, Aidan O Rourke and Michael McDermot. Will know by Monday.

Mickey the favourite. Dermot McCabe with him and Martin Corey.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on August 17, 2018, 10:52:39 AM
Damien Donohoe on Twitter saying announcement potentially made this evening and it's looking like Mickey  Graham
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mrdeeds on August 17, 2018, 11:17:18 AM
Quote from: Itchy on August 17, 2018, 10:52:39 AM
Damien Donohoe on Twitter saying announcement potentially made this evening and it's looking like Mickey  Graham

Best of luck to him. Hopefully gets the Gaels lads to go in. Dermot McCabe with him and Martin Corey too I heard. Corey is class.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on August 18, 2018, 03:54:36 PM
Disappointing appointment overall IMO. Don't imagine there'll be many lads rushing back onto the panel for Mickey Graham.

Then again we don't want a situation where the players decide whether to commit based on the profile of their manager. The problem goes deeper than the man in charge.

So best of luck to him for the year ahead. Survival in Division 1 or an Ulster Final would be a very good first year.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on August 20, 2018, 03:17:44 AM
I doubt Mickey was top of anyone's fantasy list including mine but being realistic it seems he was the best genuinely available. Plenty of managers have belied their lack of experience to do a great job in their first year, plenty have fallen flat on their arses too. There's no way to know unless he has a go at it. It'll be interesting to see if any absentees come back and what new lads he adds to the squad, as well as persuading a few to delay retirement for another year. If he keeps us in Division 1 it'll be a job well done before even considering championship.

Needless to say, best of luck to all involved.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: scoopmine on August 20, 2018, 06:07:48 PM
Lads what players do we want back on the panel and what could be done to keep the turnover low eg Monaghan...
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mrdeeds on August 20, 2018, 06:18:24 PM
Quote from: scoopmine on August 20, 2018, 06:07:48 PM
Lads what players do we want back on the panel and what could be done to keep the turnover low eg Monaghan...

Players I'd like to see in/back are David Givney (in England) Kevin Meehan (music doesn't help), Paul Graham and maybe Andy, Eugene Keating, Gerry Smith(available again after exams), Fergal Flanagan (available again too after masters),  Paul Smith (working closer to home now), Brian O Connell, Jack Brady, Niall McDermot, Colm Smith, Conor Smith, Thomas Galligan, Niall McKiernan and Dillon. Maybe have forgot some.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on August 20, 2018, 06:21:36 PM
Quote from: mrdeeds on August 20, 2018, 06:18:24 PM
Quote from: scoopmine on August 20, 2018, 06:07:48 PM
Lads what players do we want back on the panel and what could be done to keep the turnover low eg Monaghan...

Players I'd like to see in/back are David Givney (in England) Kevin Meehan (music doesn't help), Paul Graham and maybe Andy, Eugene Keating, Gerry Smith(available again after exams), Fergal Flanagan (available again too after masters),  Paul Smith (working closer to home now), Brian O Connell, Jack Brady, Niall McDermot, Colm Smith, Conor Smith, Thomas Galligan, Niall McKiernan and Dillon. Maybe have forgot some.

Turloc Mooney, Rory Dunne
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mrdeeds on August 20, 2018, 06:22:33 PM
Quote from: Itchy on August 20, 2018, 06:21:36 PM
Quote from: mrdeeds on August 20, 2018, 06:18:24 PM
Quote from: scoopmine on August 20, 2018, 06:07:48 PM
Lads what players do we want back on the panel and what could be done to keep the turnover low eg Monaghan...

Players I'd like to see in/back are David Givney (in England) Kevin Meehan (music doesn't help), Paul Graham and maybe Andy, Eugene Keating, Gerry Smith(available again after exams), Fergal Flanagan (available again too after masters),  Paul Smith (working closer to home now), Brian O Connell, Jack Brady, Niall McDermot, Colm Smith, Conor Smith, Thomas Galligan, Niall McKiernan and Dillon. Maybe have forgot some.

Turloc Mooney, Rory Dunne

Yeah Mooney too. Don't know if Rory the same after injury. Kevin Tierney too.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on August 20, 2018, 06:53:22 PM
Johnny Leddy had soccer commitments but would be a good addition if he could commit.
Conal Sheridan and Kevin Boucher would be worth looking at too
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mrdeeds on August 21, 2018, 09:29:58 AM
That's some list of players that would create a very strong squad. Training would be improved as a result.

Mickey was ratified last night with McCabe and Corey.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: scoopmine on August 21, 2018, 12:16:42 PM
Quote from: mrdeeds on August 20, 2018, 06:18:24 PM
Quote from: scoopmine on August 20, 2018, 06:07:48 PM
Lads what players do we want back on the panel and what could be done to keep the turnover low eg Monaghan...

Players I'd like to see in/back are David Givney (in England) Kevin Meehan (music doesn't help), Paul Graham and maybe Andy, Eugene Keating, Gerry Smith(available again after exams), Fergal Flanagan (available again too after masters),  Paul Smith (working closer to home now), Brian O Connell, Jack Brady, Niall McDermot, Colm Smith, Conor Smith, Thomas Galligan, Niall McKiernan and Dillon. Maybe have forgot some.

Is Paul Smith not based in Donegal? Like to see Argue too. But serious work on S and C to be done. Losing Maguire last year was a real loss but I believe Corry is very good at what he does. Just need real buy in. Galway hit the league hot and it did wonders for them.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mrdeeds on August 21, 2018, 12:37:29 PM
Quote from: scoopmine on August 21, 2018, 12:16:42 PM
Quote from: mrdeeds on August 20, 2018, 06:18:24 PM
Quote from: scoopmine on August 20, 2018, 06:07:48 PM
Lads what players do we want back on the panel and what could be done to keep the turnover low eg Monaghan...

Players I'd like to see in/back are David Givney (in England) Kevin Meehan (music doesn't help), Paul Graham and maybe Andy, Eugene Keating, Gerry Smith(available again after exams), Fergal Flanagan (available again too after masters),  Paul Smith (working closer to home now), Brian O Connell, Jack Brady, Niall McDermot, Colm Smith, Conor Smith, Thomas Galligan, Niall McKiernan and Dillon. Maybe have forgot some.

Is Paul Smith not based in Donegal? Like to see Argue too. But serious work on S and C to be done. Losing Maguire last year was a real loss but I believe Corry is very good at what he does. Just need real buy in. Galway hit the league hot and it did wonders for them.

Paul Smith transfered to Monaghan.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on August 21, 2018, 03:46:57 PM
Plenty of good players if they were willing to commit. .
Mickey Graham should be a good manager to develop the forwards. Caoimhin Reilly a similar type forward to Rian Brady of Mullinalaghta and Longford.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on August 21, 2018, 07:01:42 PM
Cavan win through to the Gerry Reilly cup final (u16) where they  play Meath. Best longford in a tight enough game but I believe the played 3/4 of the game with 14 men. Prior to that they gave Dublin a awful hiding. What's encouraging is they seem to have some individual forwards hitting big scores. For example Caoimhin O Reillys brother scored 0-9 last day, 7 from play. Fionntainn i think his name is. More critical almost than senior is that we get the right men in charge of u17 and u20 panels to bring what is obviously some great talent through.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mrdeeds on August 21, 2018, 07:12:17 PM
Quote from: Itchy on August 21, 2018, 07:01:42 PM
Cavan win through to the Gerry Reilly cup final (u16) where they  play Meath. Best longford in a tight enough game but I believe the played 3/4 of the game with 14 men. Prior to that they gave Dublin a awful hiding. What's encouraging is they seem to have some individual forwards hitting big scores. For example Caoimhin O Reillys brother scored 0-9 last day, 7 from play. Fionntainn i think his name is. More critical almost than senior is that we get the right men in charge of u17 and u20 panels to bring what is obviously some great talent through.

We've always done well at u16. Where I think we lose our way then is not enough strength and conditioning. At minor and u20 level this year it was evident. Then when we get to senior we are miles behind. Maybe county board should employ a full tine coach with responsibility for all county players.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on August 21, 2018, 10:24:58 PM
Quote from: mrdeeds on August 21, 2018, 07:12:17 PM
Quote from: Itchy on August 21, 2018, 07:01:42 PM
Cavan win through to the Gerry Reilly cup final (u16) where they  play Meath. Best longford in a tight enough game but I believe the played 3/4 of the game with 14 men. Prior to that they gave Dublin a awful hiding. What's encouraging is they seem to have some individual forwards hitting big scores. For example Caoimhin O Reillys brother scored 0-9 last day, 7 from play. Fionntainn i think his name is. More critical almost than senior is that we get the right men in charge of u17 and u20 panels to bring what is obviously some great talent through.

We've always done well at u16. Where I think we lose our way then is not enough strength and conditioning. At minor and u20 level this year it was evident. Then when we get to senior we are miles behind. Maybe county board should employ a full tine coach with responsibility for all county players.

I always wonder if it's a football issue or a mental issue. Other teams seem to be able to up their game when it comes to Championship but we wilt at underage level. That follows through to senior. Maybe S&C is an issue.

The CB is advertising for a full time Head of Athletic Performance, maybe that will cover this sort of thing.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on August 22, 2018, 03:47:10 PM
The Donegal u20s were on a conditioning program from u15s. Downes was saying Cavan done very little in the gym. Plus the Cavan u20 team were small, none of the forwards were 6ft or over
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on August 23, 2018, 01:00:59 AM
A few early interviews with the new man. Speaks about balancing the attacking/defending and getting some players back. I like that he's not buying into that jaded claptrap about "we don't have the players" although of course you'd hardly expect him to say otherwise!

http://www.irishnews.com/paywall/tsb/irishnews/irishnews/irishnews//sport/gaafootball/2018/08/22/news/cavan-need-their-best-players-playing-says-new-boss-graham-1413239/content.html (http://www.irishnews.com/paywall/tsb/irishnews/irishnews/irishnews//sport/gaafootball/2018/08/22/news/cavan-need-their-best-players-playing-says-new-boss-graham-1413239/content.html)

https://www.thesun.ie/sport/gaa-football/3015823/new-cavan-boss-mickey-graham-expecting-baptism-of-fire-as-he-starts-breffni-reign-in-division-1/ (https://www.thesun.ie/sport/gaa-football/3015823/new-cavan-boss-mickey-graham-expecting-baptism-of-fire-as-he-starts-breffni-reign-in-division-1/)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mrdeeds on September 01, 2018, 10:02:14 PM
I know football getting knocked at moment but the club championship is brilliant in Cavan at moment. New structures have created three great competitions and results are hard to predict.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on September 01, 2018, 10:19:26 PM
It's a better system then in other Counties. Tyrone play straight knock out, They haven't started it yet, waiting till after the All Ireland. 
A long time for a Club player to be waiting around.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on September 01, 2018, 10:37:12 PM
Who would've thought Cavan Gaels would have no wins from 3 games and in real danger of going out. Great to see real competition between clubs, I believe it will raise the standards in the long run.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mrdeeds on September 02, 2018, 08:51:58 AM
Quote from: Itchy on September 01, 2018, 10:37:12 PM
Who would've thought Cavan Gaels would have no wins from 3 games and in real danger of going out. Great to see real competition between clubs, I believe it will raise the standards in the long run.

Even a win in their last game might not save them. They are on negative score difference so might need to hammer Lacken to save themselves.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: scoopmine on September 09, 2018, 06:57:28 PM
Anyone sign up to the we are cavan patron? Well worth a fiver!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mrdeeds on September 09, 2018, 07:31:17 PM
Quote from: scoopmine on September 09, 2018, 06:57:28 PM
Anyone sign up to the we are cavan patron? Well worth a fiver!

No I didn't. Was waiting to hear reports.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on September 10, 2018, 01:24:14 PM
Quote from: scoopmine on September 09, 2018, 06:57:28 PM
Anyone sign up to the we are cavan patron? Well worth a fiver!

Definitely worth a fiver. If they go back to commentating on some games and have two podcasts a week a fiver a month for that sort of content is a bargain
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on September 16, 2018, 06:23:04 PM
Gaels gone, bet by Gowna - it's like old times! They only managed 1 win in the championship.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mrdeeds on September 16, 2018, 06:33:51 PM
Quote from: Itchy on September 16, 2018, 06:23:04 PM
Gaels gone, bet by Gowna - it's like old times! They only managed 1 win in the championship.

Ramor gone too.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on September 16, 2018, 06:47:05 PM
Surely Rahan will have to get over the line this year.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mrdeeds on September 16, 2018, 07:19:31 PM
Quote from: Itchy on September 16, 2018, 06:47:05 PM
Surely Rahan will have to get over the line this year.

Losing Oisin Kiernan a loss.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on September 16, 2018, 11:05:30 PM
What happened Kiernan.

Great buzz about the championships this year at all 3 grades. Great to see
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on September 17, 2018, 01:41:14 PM
Quote from: mrdeeds on September 17, 2018, 12:37:08 PM
Quote from: Westside on September 16, 2018, 11:05:30 PM
What happened Kiernan.

Great buzz about the championships this year at all 3 grades. Great to see

PM sent

Go on, send me one too!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on September 21, 2018, 09:38:34 PM
Anyone listen to the wearecavan interview with Mickey Graham. Breath of fresh air. Great to hear a man talk a bit if sense after the waffle from the last lad. Shows you the difference between outside man and cavan man in charge.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mrdeeds on September 21, 2018, 09:46:04 PM
Quote from: Itchy on September 21, 2018, 09:38:34 PM
Anyone listen to the wearecavan interview with Mickey Graham. Breath of fresh air. Great to hear a man talk a bit if sense after the waffle from the last lad. Shows you the difference between outside man and cavan man in charge.

Very good when on 2fm too. Don't think it a case of a local man more so a realist. Mickey will hardly describe a 6 all draw as a brilliant game of football.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mrdeeds on September 25, 2018, 04:34:07 PM
Gary Farrelly new minor manager.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on September 27, 2018, 02:48:04 AM
I signed up for the patreon too, a great first interview with Mickey Graham and I hope they keep the quality content coming.

Was quite impressed listening to our new manager. Given a magic wand a few months ago none of us would have been banging the drum for his appointment but now that he's there, and having heard him speak, I'm quietly optimistic. We have a very seasoned core of players with Division 1 experience, a new manager that sounds very driven, professional and energised by what he's seeing in the club championships, and he's aware of what needs to be tackled. The first real barometer will be which absentees throw their lot in with the team, and encouragingly, it sounds like it'll be strictly on the manager's terms if they do come back. It's not beyond the bounds that we'd survive in Division 1 and that would be a marvellous platform for the year ahead.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mrdeeds on October 23, 2018, 09:38:38 PM
What a great final and delighted to finally see the club win one. For me Ronan Flanagan was MOTM but Sean Brady ultimately made the difference. Crosserlough are a superb team and will be back.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on October 23, 2018, 10:01:14 PM
Quote from: mrdeeds on October 23, 2018, 09:38:38 PM
What a great final and delighted to finally see the club win one. For me Ronan Flanagan was MOTM but Sean Brady ultimately made the difference. Crosserlough are a superb team and will be back.

Fantastic game. Pity there was a loser. The Lough will be back soon.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on October 23, 2018, 10:17:10 PM
They should be back with age profile, but that's not a guarantee. Ramor didn't push on after they won 2 years ago with a young team..

Gowna, Killygarry,Lavey will be looking at making the breakthrough too. Great co final.

Crosserlough let slip a lead in drawn game with gowns and did same again. Castlerahan reacted well to the goal and went for it there after
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on October 23, 2018, 11:54:44 PM
Unfortunately, the breakthrough nature of the win and the celebrating and so on makes it unlikely they'll be too focused on the Ulster club? Might it be another fast exit for the Cavan representatives?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: five points on October 24, 2018, 11:17:15 AM
Quote from: cavanmaniac on October 23, 2018, 11:54:44 PM
Unfortunately, the breakthrough nature of the win and the celebrating and so on makes it unlikely they'll be too focused on the Ulster club? Might it be another fast exit for the Cavan representatives?

Who gives a shite, really?  Cavan Gaels got to the Ulster Club final last year and there were no bonfires. The Ulster Club is the tail that wags the county final dog.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on October 24, 2018, 11:47:10 PM
It might be good for county pride. A rising tide lifts all boats! I'd be proud for any Cavan club to make its mark in Ulster but in Castlerahan's case it's hard to see them being overly interested in it, and they're playing the Derry champions to boot, but you never know.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on October 25, 2018, 08:48:54 AM
Quote from: cavanmaniac on October 24, 2018, 11:47:10 PM
It might be good for county pride. A rising tide lifts all boats! I'd be proud for any Cavan club to make its mark in Ulster but in Castlerahan's case it's hard to see them being overly interested in it, and they're playing the Derry champions to boot, but you never know.

You could make the same case for Coleraine not being interested, think it is their first too or at least first in a long long time.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on October 26, 2018, 06:53:35 AM
Aha, I didn't know that. A real Battle of the Hangovers... :o
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mrdeeds on October 28, 2018, 08:56:14 AM
The Crosserlough and Castlerahan players drank together in BJD on Monday and went up to Dublin together on Tuesday. Great to see.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: marty34 on October 28, 2018, 10:02:00 AM
Eoghan Rua won Derry in 2012. Probably 2nd best team in Derry since - after Slaughtneil obviously. Very consistent team. I'd say they'll be looking to progress in Ulster. They maybe did their 'celebrating' in 2012 and will try and push on a bit this year.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on October 28, 2018, 11:51:30 AM
They would be taking it serious. Coleraine won the kilmacud 7s last year, plenty of good footballers. Any club coming out of Derry is strong.

Casterahan will need to up the performance from the Co final
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mrdeeds on October 31, 2018, 10:34:41 AM
Lots of new faces called in to Cavan for a look. Brian O Connell asked and said no. Ado Cole quit and Bradley in France. Simon Cadden in and Jack Brady back in. Paul Graham and Fortune in. Seven Crosserlough players in.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mrdeeds on October 31, 2018, 07:07:14 PM
Ronan Clarke new Gaels manager.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: scoopmine on November 01, 2018, 10:39:49 AM
Givney played in the London final full forward in both games...
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on November 02, 2018, 05:52:12 PM
Nevin O Donnell among the players training with the County panel. He had been with Leitrim for the past couple of years.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tommysmith on November 03, 2018, 08:25:25 AM
Who else is in Rodney?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on November 03, 2018, 02:08:18 PM
Quote from: tommysmith on November 03, 2018, 08:25:25 AM
Who else is in Rodney?

What's the story with Kevin. Played underage all way up with cavan , disappeared and reappeared with leitrim.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on November 03, 2018, 03:27:33 PM
He didn't actually play all the way up. He is from Leitrim originally and played with them at U16 level.then played minor with Cavan

Think he done his cruciate 3 times, which is a lot at his age. Crosserlough have a good few , jack Brady back in. Still others to join
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on November 03, 2018, 05:03:52 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on November 03, 2018, 03:27:33 PM
He didn't actually play all the way up. He is from Leitrim originally and played with them at U16 level.then played minor with Cavan

Think he done his cruciate 3 times, which is a lot at his age. Crosserlough have a good few , jack Brady back in. Still others to join

What club is he playing with.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on November 03, 2018, 05:06:17 PM
Shannon Gaels
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Duckquay on November 03, 2018, 08:37:12 PM
Don't think nevin will be there come championship time, he struggled to make an impact with leitrim and as somebody says, two cruciate injuries takes its toll. Who is in from lavey? Gearoid had an op during the week and is out for 3 or 4 months.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mrdeeds on November 04, 2018, 06:19:12 PM
Castlerahan died with their boots on after all the stuff that went against them. Harsh red for Wright, deserved black for Daly and injuries to Enda Flanagan and Fergal Reilly. To play the second half man to man using Leahy as a back rather than goalkeeper nearly worked
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on November 04, 2018, 10:42:15 PM
Quote from: Duckquay on November 03, 2018, 08:37:12 PM
Don't think nevin will be there come championship time, he struggled to make an impact with leitrim and as somebody says, two cruciate injuries takes its toll. Who is in from lavey? Gearoid had an op during the week and is out for 3 or 4 months.

Shouldn't be there come League time either. Nowhere near the required level. He couldn't cut it in Division 4.

Bradley's absence is frustrating. If he put in a couple of good years of work he looks like he could be a good asset. Suppose if he's on Erasmus there's not much can be done. We don't want a situation of lads giving the county a go for a year, getting their place and then opting out the following year. Ideally you'd work so hard to get into the starting 15 that you wouldn't dream of giving up after a year. 
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: LaurelEye on November 17, 2018, 07:39:10 PM
Congratulations to Mullahoran for making it through to the final.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: scoopmine on December 07, 2018, 03:42:38 PM
Mckenna Cup fixtures out.

Kevin Tierney is back in along with Argue and Graham from the gaels. Really unfortunate that Bradley is in France he had a good year last year and showed alot of promise.

Hard luck to Mullahoran in the Ulster final.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on December 07, 2018, 04:11:53 PM
Quote from: scoopmine on December 07, 2018, 03:42:38 PM
Mckenna Cup fixtures out.

Kevin Tierney is back in along with Argue and Graham from the gaels. Really unfortunate that Bradley is in France he had a good year last year and showed alot of promise.

Hard luck to Mullahoran in the Ulster final.

Despite a new manager and a fresh approach there still seems to be a large amount of lads that would rather sit at home and waste their talent than go in and train. Fed up of hearing about how "its their decision" and "cant be giving up their life". I actually believe the sitting on a bar stool telling people how they could have been great but couldn't be bothered will wear off pretty quickly and they will be left with a lot of regrets.

Its hard to fathom in a county with our heritage in football. When I was a young lad I would have given anything to have been good enough to play for the county.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: marty34 on December 08, 2018, 08:34:05 PM
I see a joint Cavan club team is in the Ulster Minor tournament in Belfast tomorrow.
How can Cavan Gaels be in a joint team? The biggest town in Cavan having to merge at minor level - is this a joke?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on December 08, 2018, 08:45:42 PM
Quote from: marty34 on December 08, 2018, 08:34:05 PM
I see a joint Cavan club team is in the Ulster Minor tournament in Belfast tomorrow.
How can Cavan Gaels be in a joint team? The biggest town in Cavan having to merge at minor level - is this a joke?

In my opinion it is a joke. For some amalgamation is necessary but if it's necessary for cavan gaels it because they are not harnessing the kids in their area.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on December 08, 2018, 08:51:21 PM
They are playing in the tournament as an U17 team:. . The other counties obviously never changed their format like at County level?#ulstersaysno

Cavan Gaels couldn't field a team in u20 championship this year. The numbers are not what they were
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: marty34 on December 08, 2018, 08:52:07 PM
Quote from: Itchy on December 08, 2018, 08:45:42 PM
Quote from: marty34 on December 08, 2018, 08:34:05 PM
I see a joint Cavan club team is in the Ulster Minor tournament in Belfast tomorrow.
How can Cavan Gaels be in a joint team? The biggest town in Cavan having to merge at minor level - is this a joke?

In my opinion it is a joke. For some amalgamation is necessary but if it's necessary for cavan gaels it because they are not harnessing the kids in their area.

They can't get 15 lads who are minor age from their club ? This must be the biggest joke ever.

How did the county board allow this to go ahead? That's where the fault lies or even to a certain extent, other clubs who didn't argue against this decision.

I can't believe that the Cavan Co. Board allowed this. 
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: marty34 on December 08, 2018, 08:59:54 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on December 08, 2018, 08:51:21 PM
They are playing in the tournament as an U17 team:. . The other counties obviously never changed their format like at County level?#ulstersaysno

Cavan Gaels couldn't field a team in u20 championship this year. The numbers are not what they were

I realise there are probably small rural clubs in places like west Cavan who have to join together because of the lack of numbers - but Cavan Gaels? It's a joke.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on December 08, 2018, 09:26:30 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on December 08, 2018, 08:51:21 PM
They are playing in the tournament as an U17 team:. . The other counties obviously never changed their format like at County level?#ulstersaysno

Cavan Gaels couldn't field a team in u20 championship this year. The numbers are not what they were

Rodney, if gaels can't field a team at any level it's because of mis management in their club or dare I say an elitist attitude at underage which means they are losing fringe players. Co board should be refusing this amalgamation.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: marty34 on December 08, 2018, 10:11:18 PM
Quote from: Itchy on December 08, 2018, 09:26:30 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on December 08, 2018, 08:51:21 PM
They are playing in the tournament as an U17 team:. . The other counties obviously never changed their format like at County level?#ulstersaysno

Cavan Gaels couldn't field a team in u20 championship this year. The numbers are not what they were

Rodney, if gaels can't field a team at any level it's because of mis management in their club or dare I say an elitist attitude at underage which means they are losing fringe players. Co board should be refusing this amalgamation.

My personal opinion is amalgamations, if they win their county c'ship, should not be allowed into the Ulster championship competition e.g. the St. Paul's Tournament or Creggan's U21 tournament. The last 'single club' team should progress.

In Ulster colleges hurling does this i.e. An Dún (combined Down schools) won the Mageean in hurling last month but are not allowed to progress to the All Irelan 'B' semi-final - this honour goes to St. Pat's Maghera...even though they were beat in the final. 

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on December 08, 2018, 10:23:10 PM
Yes, but the schools competition is an All Ireland competition.. This is run by a club in Belfast St Pauls. Not an official Gaa competition.
It would be fair to let non amalgamation enter but that's up to the St Paul's club

The Kerry  senior championship has divisional teams and 8 senior teams. A Divisional team obviously can't play in munster club so it would be of the 8 teams, whoever faired best.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: marty34 on December 08, 2018, 11:11:11 PM
Regardless, I don't think think joined up teams should go any further if they win county. My main point is that I can't believe a club like Cavan Gaels, with such tradition etc. cannot field 15 players at this age group. This is unreal.

A big town like Cavan. That's like saying Omagh can't field a minor team or St. Eunan's in Letterkenny can't field at this level.

Anybody know anymore about this story? Was other clubs in Cavan protesting when it went to board level?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on December 08, 2018, 11:53:38 PM
 If the numbers aren't continually there that's the way it goes. Cavan Gaels have been joined for a couple of years at Minor.
Drumalee are in Cavan Town too, and use to be good underage. They can barely get a team now, and are a junior club now. Some players from around Cavan Town play with Butlersbridge.
More from around the town area starting to play with Killygarry, who the Gaels are joined with

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on December 09, 2018, 03:05:55 PM
So will we be losing our Manager for the McKenna Cup?  Well done Mullaneacta (phonetic).
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on December 09, 2018, 03:07:46 PM
Brilliant achievement
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on December 09, 2018, 04:34:30 PM
I'm sure he will double job sure they've no game till February.

Incredible achievement for Mickey. Any Cavan man asked into the panel that refused should be looking at those scenes and realising what is possible if they'd only pull up their socks and work with the new manager.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Cunny Funt on December 09, 2018, 05:02:55 PM
Quote from: Itchy on December 09, 2018, 04:34:30 PM
I'm sure he will double job sure they've no game till February.

Incredible achievement for Mickey. Any Cavan man asked into the panel that refused should be looking at those scenes and realising what is possible if they'd only pull up their socks and work with the new manager.

Anthony Cunningham double jobbed with Garrycastle and Galway senior hurlers in 2012 and led both to All Ireland finals. If Mickey can get the same type of desire,commitment and work rate out of Cavan they should stay up in Div one against the odds
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: scoopmine on December 17, 2018, 06:29:10 PM
Any sign of a panel?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on December 30, 2018, 10:24:27 PM
Well lads anyone in Breffni today to give a match report?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on December 30, 2018, 11:47:28 PM
I was at it. Hard to take a lot from it, experimental teams and experimental rules. Loads of errors on both sides. Cavan shooting was better than Downs but in the end down had 3 great chances for goals and only took 1.

The new lads looked light and nervous, pierce Smith did ok. Cadden from Ramor decent. Argue looked the part in midfield, he'll be an asset. Conor Madden was brave, took on two big scores and landed both including a 55m skyscraper to win it. Tactic wise we played a zonal formation on downs kick outs but it didn't really work as they almost always got out but I suppose that will be worked on. Moynagh lost few pounds too and great to see Jack Brady come on.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mrdeeds on December 31, 2018, 11:09:09 AM
Itchy has a good summary. Down caught a lot under new rules. Cavan once on passes and once on sideline. Also had a 13 minute sin bin. Cadden was best of newcomers but he has the physicality so helps. Raymond Galligan was brilliant and deserved MOTM with his skills from play excellent too. Yeah noticed Moynagh much more lean and covered every blade of grass. Argue done well too at midfield.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on January 10, 2019, 09:23:34 AM
Down to earth with a bump last night. Phillips very silly getting sent off inside 5 minutes against a pretty strong Donegal team. Didnt get to it but heard Conor Madden showed well which is a plus. I am worried about going into the national league with this team though. I wonder where we are on injuries to the likes of McVetty, Clarke, Smith, Gearoid etc. Hard to see us getting something in Galway without those players.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Look-Up! on January 10, 2019, 12:45:23 PM
Probably shouldn't read too much into McKenna Cup. It's about blooding players and we've done it better this year compared to this time last year IMO. We've left 5/6 seasoned players on in each game giving the younger lads a better platform whereby last year we threw them into the deep end more and a lot of them sank. Still, Donegal result is disappointing and a little worrying and we definitely need extra players back for the league in addition to who have played so far. Not asking Gunner in is a bit perplexing too and a massive misjudgment. Cannot for the life of me see how anyone could not think he would be a big asset over the course of a league and be pushing for a championship place. 
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mrdeeds on January 10, 2019, 12:59:38 PM
Was Gunner not given extra time off with the club run to Ulster final?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Look-Up! on January 10, 2019, 01:43:09 PM
Quote from: mrdeeds on January 10, 2019, 12:59:38 PM
Was Gunner not given extra time off with the club run to Ulster final?

Honestly don't know. No Mullahoran players have been contacted either way, whether to say they are not required or that they will be required later. That was last week.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on January 21, 2019, 10:01:52 AM
I see McVetty was playing with his college at the weekend so at least he should be back for next Sunday. Galway well beaten by Rossies yesterday whatever you can read into that I dont know.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: scoopmine on January 21, 2019, 10:12:42 AM
Quote from: Itchy on January 21, 2019, 10:01:52 AM
I see McVetty was playing with his college at the weekend so at least he should be back for next Sunday. Galway well beaten by Rossies yesterday whatever you can read into that I dont know.

Didn't realise he was back in college. Who did he tog out with?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on January 21, 2019, 12:28:10 PM
DCU I think it was
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on January 22, 2019, 08:21:33 AM
Seniors beat Kildare in a challenge game Sunday by 4 points, a 2nd string lost to Mullinnaughta by 1 point.

I think there might be something in it for us on Sunday against Galway, we could be getting them at a good time.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Look-Up! on January 22, 2019, 12:34:29 PM
Quote from: Itchy on January 22, 2019, 08:21:33 AM
Seniors beat Kildare in a challenge game Sunday by 4 points, a 2nd string lost to Mullinnaughta by 1 point.

I think there might be something in it for us on Sunday against Galway, we could be getting them at a good time.

Heard Gunner was called in and made an appearance v Mullinalaghta which is welcome news. Mackey played too apparently and James Smith played well. Heard nothing on team v Kildare.
Galway will be very tough even with injuries. They have had some great underage teams over the last few years and many players involved with Sigerson so they will have ample replacements. Gearoid is a big loss for us and we will probably struggle for scores without him. A win on the road would be a fantastic start though.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on January 22, 2019, 05:30:27 PM
Cavan 5/2 for Sunday so the bookies aren't expecting much from us. Usually i'd be encouraged with a win against Kildare but they are missing a lot of players. Be very interesting to see what sort of team Mickey puts out. I'd fully expect Madden to start.

Who is best to put on Comer? Killian Clarke probably? Or stick Gunner on him for a while and see if sparks fly.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Look-Up! on January 22, 2019, 07:59:30 PM
Quote from: Westside on January 22, 2019, 05:30:27 PM
Cavan 5/2 for Sunday so the bookies aren't expecting much from us. Usually i'd be encouraged with a win against Kildare but they are missing a lot of players. Be very interesting to see what sort of team Mickey puts out. I'd fully expect Madden to start.

Who is best to put on Comer? Killian Clarke probably? Or stick Gunner on him for a while and see if sparks fly.

Apparently Comer is injured. I'd be very worried about Shane Walsh. He's the type of player to open up a team like Cavan.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Duckquay on January 24, 2019, 11:01:08 PM
Quote from: Westside on January 22, 2019, 05:30:27 PM
Cavan 5/2 for Sunday so the bookies aren't expecting much from us. Usually i'd be encouraged with a win against Kildare but they are missing a lot of players. Be very interesting to see what sort of team Mickey puts out. I'd fully expect Madden to start.

Who is best to put on Comer? Killian Clarke probably? Or stick Gunner on him for a while and see if sparks fly.

The only thing flying there would be cards. In gunner's direction. Mcveety probably the best match for Walsh alright but then you're taking away your greatest strength.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Look-Up! on January 25, 2019, 02:34:32 PM
Quote from: Duckquay on January 24, 2019, 11:01:08 PM
Quote from: Westside on January 22, 2019, 05:30:27 PM
Cavan 5/2 for Sunday so the bookies aren't expecting much from us. Usually i'd be encouraged with a win against Kildare but they are missing a lot of players. Be very interesting to see what sort of team Mickey puts out. I'd fully expect Madden to start.

Who is best to put on Comer? Killian Clarke probably? Or stick Gunner on him for a while and see if sparks fly.

The only thing flying there would be cards. In gunner's direction. Mcveety probably the best match for Walsh alright but then you're taking away your greatest strength.

Martin Reilly did a good job on Donnacha Walsh in Breffni a couple of years ago. Might be worth a try on Walsh Sunday. Good reader of the game too and composed on the ball. Sometimes he slows it down too much in the half forwards so one of the young lads could be tried in there instead.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on January 25, 2019, 05:30:41 PM
Quote from: Duckquay on January 24, 2019, 11:01:08 PM
Quote from: Westside on January 22, 2019, 05:30:27 PM
Cavan 5/2 for Sunday so the bookies aren't expecting much from us. Usually i'd be encouraged with a win against Kildare but they are missing a lot of players. Be very interesting to see what sort of team Mickey puts out. I'd fully expect Madden to start.

Who is best to put on Comer? Killian Clarke probably? Or stick Gunner on him for a while and see if sparks fly.

The only thing flying there would be cards. In gunner's direction. Mcveety probably the best match for Walsh alright but then you're taking away your greatest strength.

Gunner always picks up a yellow but he's rarely sent off. Donie Kingston was roasting Rory Dunne in Porlaoise a few years ago and they moved Gunner onto him, he cleaned him for the rest of the game. Kingston visibly didn't want possession in the end.

McVeety needs to be in the full forward line. He will be our best scoring threat. I'd stick Martin Reilly on him, has the engine and the speed to keep with him.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on January 25, 2019, 07:13:29 PM
Quote from: Westside on January 25, 2019, 05:30:41 PM
Quote from: Duckquay on January 24, 2019, 11:01:08 PM
Quote from: Westside on January 22, 2019, 05:30:27 PM
Cavan 5/2 for Sunday so the bookies aren't expecting much from us. Usually i'd be encouraged with a win against Kildare but they are missing a lot of players. Be very interesting to see what sort of team Mickey puts out. I'd fully expect Madden to start.

Who is best to put on Comer? Killian Clarke probably? Or stick Gunner on him for a while and see if sparks fly.

The only thing flying there would be cards. In gunner's direction. Mcveety probably the best match for Walsh alright but then you're taking away your greatest strength.

Gunner always picks up a yellow but he's rarely sent off. Donie Kingston was roasting Rory Dunne in Porlaoise a few years ago and they moved Gunner onto him, he cleaned him for the rest of the game. Kingston visibly didn't want possession in the end.

McVeety needs to be in the full forward line. He will be our best scoring threat. I'd stick Martin Reilly on him, has the engine and the speed to keep with him.

Last year every time he got a yellow he was subbed off, tells you what mcglennan thought of his ability to stay on after a yellow. Always thought it was stupid though taking him off like that, he has to learn to stay on the field and if he can't do that he's as well to stay at home
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on January 26, 2019, 11:37:20 AM
Caoimhin is injured and isn't going to be with the panel until he's back to fitness. Seems like an odd decision to not keep a guy with his talent in the loop. Hopefully it's been handled well and he will be back for the championship
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on January 26, 2019, 11:55:43 AM
Not like he is totally out of the picture. He will be with the rest of the extended squad, working his way back to fitness.
He hasn't played much football since last August in the Club Championship.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mrdeeds on January 26, 2019, 12:25:25 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on January 26, 2019, 11:55:43 AM
Not like he is totally out of the picture. He will be with the rest of the extended squad, working his way back to fitness.
He hasn't played much football since last August in the Club Championship.

He not only player told look after himself rather than county and I know two players who have refused to go in as a result. Also players getting phone calls to go in, in last couple of weeks. One lad called in two weeks ago and dropped since. Same fella was looked at, at start of year. Makes no sense. If Mattie done it we'd say amateurish.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on January 26, 2019, 12:30:27 PM
They are carrying a bigger panel this year. They didn't play in Leinster Junior championship under Mcgleenan.
But yes strange recalling some players who were dropped
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Duckquay on January 26, 2019, 06:34:25 PM
There is a bit if indifference to the county team that has grown in the last few years and stories like that feed into it. Ridiculous stuff in any setup.
Also, I fully agree with injured players not being part of things. Why would anyone want to travel distances midweek to stand on a sideline in December and January to watch training. It's a long enough year.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mrdeeds on January 26, 2019, 07:59:09 PM
Quote from: Duckquay on January 26, 2019, 06:34:25 PM
There is a bit if indifference to the county team that has grown in the last few years and stories like that feed into it. Ridiculous stuff in any setup.
Also, I fully agree with injured players not being part of things. Why would anyone want to travel distances midweek to stand on a sideline in December and January to watch training. It's a long enough year.

The point was injured players are not being looked after.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Duckquay on January 26, 2019, 08:58:31 PM
Sorry, I would have thought that would have been a given. Bad form.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: seafoid on January 27, 2019, 07:25:39 AM


https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/with-mullinalaghta-and-cavan-mickey-graham-has-every-plate-spinning-1.3769530

"I went to the Mullinalaghta players when I was offered the Cavan job and the one thing I said to them was that nobody was to use it as an excuse if things go pear-shaped. Let's finish the year on a high. But sure we never thought it would be still going this long!"
He earns a living as a sales rep for Coca-Cola so he spends most of his time in the car, making calls, checking lists, crossing jobs off as he goes. Then I have Dermot McCabe as well my assistant manager and he and I would be of the same mind on everything really.

Before Mullinalaghta, he'd put down a few seasons managing Clonguish in Longford. All the way along, he hoped he'd get to a place where his road would intersect with Cavan's eventually.
Here he is, then. And miles to go before he sleeps. Cavan may be back in Division One but you'd hardly describe them as being on an upward curve. Mattie McGleenan's two years came and went with only three championship wins to show for them – and those were against Offaly, Wicklow and Down. They haven't beaten a Division One team in summer football since a qualifier win over Westmeath in 2014. Cavan always seem to be starting over.

He may even indulge himself and catch a glimpse of the family once in a while. But hectic and all as it has been, he wouldn't change it for diamonds. Winning a Leinster title with a team from a half-parish of 400-odd people is the kind of thing that will outlast him, regardless of what happens from here. It'll outlast them all.

Yeah, it just seems for the last number of years that there's been a fierce turnover of players for various reasons," Graham says. "Whether it's the commitment or lads travelling or injuries or lads not believing that they're good enough to go on and be successful, there's been lots of reasons. It's been disappointing that every year you seem to have a bunch of new players. From my point of view, I'm hoping to bring a bit of continuity

I said to them the first day I spoke to them – there's no quick fix here. Things aren't going to happen within six months or 12 months. This is a journey that could take two, three, four years. To create the environment I want, to put the stamp on their set-up that I want, none of it is going to happen overnight.
"It's a matter of the boys buying into it and seeing the bigger picture. For new lads in to develop as players physically and mentally, it could take a few years so everyone has to realise that. It's going to be a tough year or two to begin."

It could get very interesting in a few years if the players respond
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mrdeeds on January 27, 2019, 04:31:17 PM
Very disappointing. Martin Reilly best with Raymond Galliagan and Jack good. What we were playing at with Holla I don't know. A lot of players were unfit while one was at least two stone over weight and couldn't sprint. The new lads are miles behind in terms of strength and couldn't break a tackle. Midfield were poor too and discipline was as bad as I've ever seen.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on January 27, 2019, 05:33:03 PM
It was poor stuff. Killian Clarke was incredibly poor I thought. Walsh roasted him and he resorted to dirty shots, should have been sent off. Thank God for Martin Reilly.

Severe lack of ideas going forward. Mackey should have been on earlier. The most worrying thing was the lack of pace and power. We couldn't live with Galway in the second half.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mrdeeds on January 27, 2019, 07:39:06 PM
Quote from: Westside on January 27, 2019, 05:33:03 PM
It was poor stuff. Killian Clarke was incredibly poor I thought. Walsh roasted him and he resorted to dirty shots, should have been sent off. Thank God for Martin Reilly.

Severe lack of ideas going forward. Mackey should have been on earlier. The most worrying thing was the lack of pace and power. We couldn't live with Galway in the second half.

Funny I thought Killian done ok. Walsh shone in that period where we down to 12.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on January 27, 2019, 07:58:32 PM
It wasnt all bad.

We were in control in the 1st half but missed a hat load of very scorable chances, should have been 3 pts up at half time. 2nd half was very poor and then all the black cards came making it mission impossible really, a late rally made the score line look reasonable.

Few take aways.

- We do not look anywhere near fit. Killian Clarke looks to have weight on, maybe he was out injured. Lads were knackered at half time. What worries me is that Galway are not hectic at all. What will other teams do to us??
- Argue very disappointing, let the game pass him by
- Mackey only on for 5 mins. Ridiculous. He was badly needed in the 2nd half.
- Referee a joke. Gunners black was ridiculous, he didnt commit any black card offence. Galway man should have got a red for dangerous tackle on Galligan. Then this O Mahoney clown has form with Cavan as we know.
- Discipline poor. Clarkes black was really stupid by him at a key part of the game
- Thought Madden and Jack did well when in the FF line but then Madden was taken out of there. Made no sense.
- Biggest one is free takers. This is 2nd game I have seen and again missing frees that you cannot miss at this level. Surely Jack Brady is the man to take frees. We missed 3 gimme frees in my opinion.

I am not optimistic for our next two games I must say.
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Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on January 27, 2019, 08:17:16 PM
The free issue is mental. Martin Reilly scores an unreal free from the sideline. Another free from an easier position on the right side a few minutes later and Smith the right footer takes it?? Look at the difference with Galway. Walsh kept the scoreboard ticking over for them. Fully agree Jack Brady shoukd take them.

I was impressed with Madden. Why didn't they leave him inside and let it into him periodically to see if we can win some marks.

I just think Mickey didn't make the most of what we had there today and you can't have lads like Clarke and Galligan taking cheap shots right in front of the ref. It's a complete cop out.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on January 27, 2019, 08:30:28 PM
I forgot to say Kevin Tierney, What the f**k!!!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mrdeeds on January 27, 2019, 08:54:20 PM
Quote from: Itchy on January 27, 2019, 08:30:28 PM
I forgot to say Kevin Tierney, What the f**k!!!

I didn't want to name him. But to bring on a player in that shape was shocking.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mrdeeds on January 27, 2019, 08:57:14 PM
Quote from: Itchy on January 27, 2019, 07:58:32 PM
It wasnt all bad.

We were in control in the 1st half but missed a hat load of very scorable chances, should have been 3 pts up at half time. 2nd half was very poor and then all the black cards came making it mission impossible really, a late rally made the score line look reasonable.

Few take aways.

- We do not look anywhere near fit. Killian Clarke looks to have weight on, maybe he was out injured. Lads were knackered at half time. What worries me is that Galway are not hectic at all. What will other teams do to us??
- Argue very disappointing, let the game pass him by
- Mackey only on for 5 mins. Ridiculous. He was badly needed in the 2nd half.
- Referee a joke. Gunners black was ridiculous, he didnt commit any black card offence. Galway man should have got a red for dangerous tackle on Galligan. Then this O Mahoney clown has form with Cavan as we know.
- Discipline poor. Clarkes black was really stupid by him at a key part of the game
- Thought Madden and Jack did well when in the FF line but then Madden was taken out of there. Made no sense.
- Biggest one is free takers. This is 2nd game I have seen and again missing frees that you cannot miss at this level. Surely Jack Brady is the man to take frees. We missed 3 gimme frees in my opinion.

I am not optimistic for our next two games I must say.
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Martin Reilly black so harsh. Was going for ball.

But Killian Clarke left his man to go and do the player in possession. Madness.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on January 27, 2019, 09:01:24 PM
Quote from: mrdeeds on January 27, 2019, 08:54:20 PM
Quote from: Itchy on January 27, 2019, 08:30:28 PM
I forgot to say Kevin Tierney, What the f**k!!!

I didn't want to name him. But to bring on a player in that shape was shocking.

Even at that, he has two balls right into him and basically refused to go for them!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on January 27, 2019, 09:07:59 PM
Quote from: Itchy on January 27, 2019, 09:01:24 PM
Quote from: mrdeeds on January 27, 2019, 08:54:20 PM
Quote from: Itchy on January 27, 2019, 08:30:28 PM
I forgot to say Kevin Tierney, What the f**k!!!

I didn't want to name him. But to bring on a player in that shape was shocking.

Even at that, he has two balls right into him and basically refused to go for them!

What was that about. He looked like a lad that was absolutely wrecked but he was only on the field 2 minutes.

Really hope Mickey is picking lads he sees something in and isn't looking at old U21 teamsheets.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mrdeeds on January 27, 2019, 09:17:06 PM
Quote from: Westside on January 27, 2019, 09:07:59 PM
Quote from: Itchy on January 27, 2019, 09:01:24 PM
Quote from: mrdeeds on January 27, 2019, 08:54:20 PM
Quote from: Itchy on January 27, 2019, 08:30:28 PM
I forgot to say Kevin Tierney, What the f**k!!!

I didn't want to name him. But to bring on a player in that shape was shocking.

Even at that, he has two balls right into him and basically refused to go for them!

What was that about. He looked like a lad that was absolutely wrecked but he was only on the field 2 minutes.

Really hope Mickey is picking lads he sees something in and isn't looking at old U21 teamsheets.

The stuff I've heard last couple weeks does not fill me with confidence.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: scoopmine on January 28, 2019, 09:22:59 AM
Galligan in goals was top class he really has come on in the position, Martin Reilly was top class but thought it was a black card similar to the galway one. Jack Brady good hands when he got the ball but got no service, Thomas Galligan I thought competed well in the air and looked the more senior midfielder with Argue not involved all game. Clarke had a tough job on Walsh and in the second half had a stormer ( Walsh that is). Madden good inside but tactics seemed to go in the second half.

Podge injured could be a huge loss. Mcvitty had the poorest game in a Cavan jersey I have seen him have. G is our biggest loss. We are not getting the best out of Brady. Need to settle on a freetaker. Mackey could have been done with earlier. Kevin Tierney looked overawed and coming back from injury. A mixed bag and as Micky said its going to get worse before it gets better!   
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on January 31, 2019, 11:08:05 AM
Hard to be too optimistic about Sunday after what Kerry did to Tyrone last week, I think I would set up as follows...

                   Galligan

McLoughlin       Clarke          Gunner

                  Moynagh

Holla          Faulkner          Murray


        Thomas Galligan        Argue


Mackey          Martin Reilly         McVeety


    Madden             Jack Brady


I think you have to persevere with the 2 lads in midfield and let them grow into this level. You need Killian at FB and Faulkner at CB in my opinion. You need Mackey on the pitch and you need jack and Madden in the FF line

Jack or Mackey on frees on RHS, Martin Reilly on the left. Use the young lads as subs and give them a chance. We worked hard to get to Div 1 and we need to try hard to stay there so go out with a strong team at home and go for it, get stuck into the Kerry kids.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mrdeeds on February 01, 2019, 11:15:53 PM
TEAM NEWS: Senior Panel to play Kerry

Senior management have named the panel for this Sunday's Allianz Football League Round 2 game v Kerry. Throw in is 2.00pm in Kingspan Breffni.

The team sees two changes from last week in Galway as Christopher Conroy is named at corner back and Conor Bradley is included in the matchday panel.

Panel v Kerry
1. Raymond Galligan (Lacken)
2. Jason McLoughlin (Shannon Gaels)
3. Padraig Faulkner (Kingscourt)
4. Christopher Conroy (Lavey)
5. Niall Murray (Cavan Gaels)
6. Ciaran Brady (Arvagh)
7. Conor Rehill (Crosserlough)
8. Michael Argue (Bailieborough)
9. Killian Clarke (Shercock)
10. Pierce Smith (Crosserlough)
11. Dara McVeety (Crosserlough)
12. Martin Reilly (Killygarry)
13. Jack Brady (Ramor United)
14. Thomas Galligan (Lacken)
15. Conor Madden (Gowna)

16. Liam Brady (Ramor United)
17. Barry Fortune (Cavan Gaels)
18. Stephen Murray (Cavan Gaels)
19. Paul Graham (Cavan Gaels)
20. Stephen Smith (Crosserlough)
21. Luke Fortune (Cavan Gaels)
22. Killian Brady (Mullahoran)
23. Conor Bradley (Ramor United)
24. Oisin Pierson (Gowna)
25. Cian Mackey (Castlerahan)
26. Kevin Tierney (Ballyhaise)

http://cavangaa.ie/2019/02/cavan-panel-play-kerry/

Was expecting to see more changes.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on February 02, 2019, 01:07:50 PM
I'm happy enough with the team named. What's the story with Moynagh?..
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on February 02, 2019, 01:12:34 PM
Quote from: Westside on February 02, 2019, 01:07:50 PM
I'm happy enough with the team named. What's the story with Moynagh?..

He was away somewhere last week but I believe came back this week so assume he may be available?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Look-Up! on February 03, 2019, 11:53:13 AM
Quote from: Itchy on February 02, 2019, 01:12:34 PM
Quote from: Westside on February 02, 2019, 01:07:50 PM
I'm happy enough with the team named. What's the story with Moynagh?..

He was away somewhere last week but I believe came back this week so assume he may be available?

Maybe. I don't think Gunner is available.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on February 03, 2019, 04:23:46 PM
What's the verdict lads? Didn't make it down but 2 points in the second half isn't going to win you games.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on February 03, 2019, 11:06:40 PM
Well there were a lot of positives despite what the numpties in hoganstand are saying. We played some great football in the 1st half and I thought we got some great performances from McVitty, Holla, Faulkner, Madden and Clarke. We probably should have been a few more in front but a fussy referee kept Kerry in it. There were a few turning points

1- A freakish display of free taking from from Sean o shea. Into the breeze, left or right and anywhere from 45m out and everyone of them over the bar
2 - The opposite of Kerry our frees again were poor. Martin Reilly made a mess of 2 in the 2nd half, Galligan missed 2. Cost us the game.
3 - If you gave Peter Keane a magic wand at half time and told him he could disappear two of our players he would have said McVitty and Holla, and both got injured. Terrible bad luck
4 - The strength in depth of Kerry. They could bring on Tommy Walsh, David Moran, Griffin etc. Really turned the game
5- Conditioning. We are miles behind, especially our new young lads. When Kerry agressively pushed up in the 2nd half we really just could not break through their lines and they smothered us and got some awful scores (from our perspective)

That said I was impressed with Thomas Galligan, he really took the game to Kerry. He was getting lots of abuse but just got on with it and in the last minutes when we were looking for leaders he was the one who took the ball on a lung busting run straight at Kerrys defence.

We will probably go down but f**k it the lads are competing strongly and I'd rather we were doing that in Div 1 than playing shit football against Fermanagh and Meath in Div 2. It was an enjoyable game, lots of good scores and big hits. We really need Holla and McVitty for next Saturday in Mayo.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on February 04, 2019, 01:42:10 PM
What was the story with Chris Conroy. Named at corner back, then isnt even on the panel and replaced on the bench by Clerkin? Very odd. Also, no Moynagh named on panel this week and was named to start last week.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on February 04, 2019, 04:36:03 PM
The freetaking is a serious issue. All the seasoned Division 1 teams have consistent freetakers. Galligan only scores a small percentage of his kicks and I think the extra time for him coming up along with the misses wastes time and saps morale.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on February 06, 2019, 08:46:31 PM
Mcvitty named but not starting for DCU tonight. If he's injured would be disaster for cavan. Thomas Galligan midfield for DCU with Luke fortune playing for UCD
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on February 07, 2019, 01:33:12 PM
How did Fortune look against Kerry? Sounded like he got taken yo the cleaners...

Sincerely hope McVeety is taking precautions but will be ok come the weekend
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on February 07, 2019, 03:08:44 PM
Quote from: Westside on February 07, 2019, 01:33:12 PM
How did Fortune look against Kerry? Sounded like he got taken yo the cleaners...

Sincerely hope McVeety is taking precautions but will be ok come the weekend

He got a bit of a run around but at the end of the day he was fired in at the deep end marking a very good player when McVitty went off. McVitty had O Shea in his pocket up to that point.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on February 09, 2019, 12:57:49 PM
Not much talk about tonight? No team announcement, WeareCavan seem to have gone silent too they didn't do a preview.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on February 09, 2019, 01:22:58 PM
Quote from: Westside on February 09, 2019, 12:57:49 PM
Not much talk about tonight? No team announcement, WeareCavan seem to have gone silent too they didn't do a preview.

It's all a bit odd, especially no podcast.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tierworker blue on February 09, 2019, 05:11:20 PM
It's the same team as the one that was named last week, apart from Moynagh named at 4, instead of Conroy.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on February 10, 2019, 12:17:01 PM
Well beaten in the end, few take aways

- Fitness and especially strength fitness is really below where it needs to be. I am beginning to see why Mickey made a point of saying we are 3 years behind most teams. I am thinking Corry did a test on the players and gave Mickey the bad news before the league started. There is of course no quick fix to this but I am sure a huge amount of work is going into it in training at the moment which is possibly why we are fading so badly in games. Thats my theory anyway. We need to asses the team in light of that. I'd still rather be in Div 1 losing by a few points than playing a lower standard.

- The goal was a foul on Galligan, it was level enough in 1st half and that goal certainly took the wind out of us. Why do referrees miss such blatant fouls? Mind you Galligan probably should be stronger and maybe punch that ball away instead of trying to catch under pressure.

- Discipline is a huge issue and Mickey needs to get hold of the lads and sort this out. Murray was on a yellow for a 1st half high tackle and then goes and does another one in front of the baying mob of Mayo fans in the stand - really stupid. Clarke mauls Andy Moran on the 45 with idiotic slaps, gets a free against him and then moans at the ref and its brought in for a tap over. Moynagh concedes a free on the sideline at the 45, wont release the ball and its brought forward for another simple score. If you think about it thats 2 points and a player down. You have to stay in these games when you are on the back foot, not throw your toys out of the pram. Discipline is costing us big time.

- Unforced errors were prevalent in the 2nd half. You get punished in Div 1 for every mistake. That a lesson we have to learn from.

- Martin Reilly a great soldiers but he needs to do this a second faster, he is slowing the game up.

- Madden struggled today. Won the 1st ball and kicked it wide from tight angle. Next one he won but gave it away, seemed to lose confidence and lost a few 50:50s. By the end he was spilling balls he was favourite to win. Still I have lots of faith in him but he needs to learn to put a poor performance behind him and move on.

- On the positive I think McVitty is one of the best players in the country, despite clearly not being 100% if he decides he is going past you he just does it. His 2nd point was magnificent. I cant wait to see him at full speed later in the summer. Moynagh did well when he came on. Stephen Murray played well and Jason McLoughlin had a great 1st half.

Injury News. According to a brief podcast from wearecavan Gearoid is back in training next week as is Caoimhin Reilly and Gerry Smith should be back for Roscommon so that is positive.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on February 10, 2019, 07:05:13 PM
The insane thoughts of our former grounds man that get printed by the virtual rag that is hoganstand...

Strange reply Mattie got relegated and came right back up and everyone wanted his head so why not look for the heads of the present management 3 losses so far in the league and more than likely three more to follow. How can any county board that have their county team in Division 1 give a new manager the okay to concentrate on the championship and forget the league if this is true we as supporters have been betrayed and cheated plain and simple. I don't believe that they allowed this to be ratified if yes they should all resign in block. But I fear this did not happen they would never be that stupid would they???

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on February 10, 2019, 10:52:47 PM
Is it just me or does the Cavan Board on HS attract a special type of lunatic? It's either one loser with an Hyland obsession posting under 10 different usernames or a former groundsman who obviously hates Graham calling a 3 point loss to Kerry 'disgusting and calling for Mickey to resign after 3 games.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on February 10, 2019, 11:19:44 PM
Quote from: Westside on February 10, 2019, 10:52:47 PM
Is it just me or does the Cavan Board on HS attract a special type of lunatic? It's either one loser with an Hyland obsession posting under 10 different usernames or a former groundsman who obviously hates Graham calling a 3 point loss to Kerry 'disgusting and calling for Mickey to resign after 3 games.

Someone should write a thesis on that man. Last year he was calling for mcglennan to leave not he was wronged. No wonder the pitch was in shite for so long.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on February 25, 2019, 10:54:50 AM
Very good performance yesterday. Clarke awesome at midfield, Moynoagh hit everything he could see and possibly Niall Murrays best game for Cavan. Madden took his two goals so well. Can we dream to go to Omagh and pull another result of the bag?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on February 25, 2019, 01:10:45 PM
The lads on NS were great crack.  The work rate of the team would gladden the heart.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on March 03, 2019, 12:49:52 PM
That was really disappointing last night. Did ok in the 1st half to stay in touch but Clarke's stupidity has to be called out getting sent off. He really needs a strong word with himself. I've been at every game this year. Hes got a red, black cards, multiple frees brought forward for all sorts of stupid shite. Hes at his prime and an experienced operator, what he did last night is not acceptable.

Few other things that were really obviously issues..

- Very weak kick out strategy that was easily sussed out by Tyrone
- Free taking a total disaster again, we missed 6 or maybe 7. Martin Reilly is simply not a free taker. I dont understand this craic of Galligan coming half way up  the field to take frees and then discussing it with others and leaving to someone else. The free taker should be decided before the game.
- Discipline - see above
- Need more from our forwards, a bit of hard running and courage on the ball. We wouldnt have scored 1-14 if we were there for 3 games.

And the sad thing is Tyrone are not that great, they are well organised in defense but not great elsewhere yet by the end we made them look like all ireland contenders. AS few of our lads were total passengers last night too which is worrying. Mickey has an awful lot to do before the Monaghan match.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on March 03, 2019, 01:57:54 PM
What's behind Clarke's discipline problems? He was a brilliant tackler once upon a time and now it's a lot of lazy diving in and dirty shots. Is it a lack of fitness? Is he fed up and not willing to put in the hard yards? Is he playing the part of what he thinks a hard man midfielder should be?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on March 17, 2019, 03:39:30 PM
Did anyone make the match. Very disappointing show again.  Last 2 games have been steps backward in my opinion. Where to start..

1- Freetaking. Abysmal, disorganised, no one seems to know who is taking them. I've cut Mickey some slack but for f**k sake this needs to get sorted. If I say Raymond Galligan run up the field again only to be told to go back I will scream. Our most reliable free taker this year is Jack Brady and he is on the bench. Niall McKiernan gets a first start and he gets to be on frees. Its bonkers. Sort it out Mickey. Monaghan stayed in touch thanks to frees, i dont think they got a point from play in the first half. Oh yes and if the bloody free isnt on then recycle the ball instead of blasting it wide.

2- Mcvitty midfield. Maybe we were forced into it as Thomas Galligan and Paul Graham were not togged but for me this is a waste of Mcvitty. You need him running from deep or closer to goal. I was not impressed with Clarke in there either. Didnt do enough for me.

3- New lads. Most are simply not up this level yet. Poor decision making, playing the ball backwards as not strong enough to take on a man. There is a bit about Rehill and Gerry Smith needs to up his work rate, too much swanning around and not enough getting stuck in.

4- Forward play. Again Mickey Graham needs to do more here. Leaving a big immobile player like Niall McKiernan on his own in the FF line and bringing our main scoring threat of the whole league Madden way out the field was crazy. We looked like we hadnt a clue how to attack.

5- Tackling/Discipline. Its brutal, lads who use to be able to tackle are now flat footed and throwing in lazy arms and conceding frees against teams that can score within 50m of the goal. Then the usual moaning - 3 free brought in by the ref yesterday and McVitty black card probably for moaning too. Again Mickey can surely see that this is a problem so what is he doing about it. I listened to an interview with Killan Clarke after Tyrone game and he was talking some crap about how the ref was determined to get him. What a load of bollox Killian. Senior player should be looking at himself, not the ref.

6- Leaders. I think we dont have any on the pitch.

Positives

Moynagh had a serious game and really brought it to Monaghan. McKiernan had an impact as a sub. Full back line was good. Apart from that there were none. As things stand I cannot see us spring anything on monaghan in Ulster I am afraid.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on March 17, 2019, 04:54:17 PM
Why people are still pouncing his name as McVitty I don't know.. Its McVeety...

Cavan a middle of the road team in all reality, fortunate to beat Tipp last year to get promoted. Maybe Caoimhin Reilly and Bradley to come back in as forwards options. Mcveety would be a threat inside but would be a loss further out the field.. Driving from deep. 
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on March 17, 2019, 04:57:04 PM
Biscuits
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mrdeeds on March 17, 2019, 07:07:30 PM
Thought Murray was good too. Gearoid looks a lot leaner too.

Referee was awful. For both teams. Just a bad referee.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on March 18, 2019, 08:38:26 PM
Quote from: Itchy on March 17, 2019, 03:39:30 PM
Did anyone make the match. Very disappointing show again.  Last 2 games have been steps backward in my opinion. Where to start..

1- Freetaking. Abysmal, disorganised, no one seems to know who is taking them. I've cut Mickey some slack but for f**k sake this needs to get sorted. If I say Raymond Galligan run up the field again only to be told to go back I will scream. Our most reliable free taker this year is Jack Brady and he is on the bench. Niall McKiernan gets a first start and he gets to be on frees. Its bonkers. Sort it out Mickey. Monaghan stayed in touch thanks to frees, i dont think they got a point from play in the first half. Oh yes and if the bloody free isnt on then recycle the ball instead of blasting it wide.

2- Mcvitty midfield. Maybe we were forced into it as Thomas Galligan and Paul Graham were not togged but for me this is a waste of Mcvitty. You need him running from deep or closer to goal. I was not impressed with Clarke in there either. Didnt do enough for me.

3- New lads. Most are simply not up this level yet. Poor decision making, playing the ball backwards as not strong enough to take on a man. There is a bit about Rehill and Gerry Smith needs to up his work rate, too much swanning around and not enough getting stuck in.

4- Forward play. Again Mickey Graham needs to do more here. Leaving a big immobile player like Niall McKiernan on his own in the FF line and bringing our main scoring threat of the whole league Madden way out the field was crazy. We looked like we hadnt a clue how to attack.

5- Tackling/Discipline. Its brutal, lads who use to be able to tackle are now flat footed and throwing in lazy arms and conceding frees against teams that can score within 50m of the goal. Then the usual moaning - 3 free brought in by the ref yesterday and McVitty black card probably for moaning too. Again Mickey can surely see that this is a problem so what is he doing about it. I listened to an interview with Killan Clarke after Tyrone game and he was talking some crap about how the ref was determined to get him. What a load of bollox Killian. Senior player should be looking at himself, not the ref.

6- Leaders. I think we dont have any on the pitch.

Positives

Moynagh had a serious game and really brought it to Monaghan. McKiernan had an impact as a sub. Full back line was good. Apart from that there were none. As things stand I cannot see us spring anything on monaghan in Ulster I am afraid.

Came on to post my impressions, this covers everything.

Depressing day in Clones, Monaghan just looked like a far far more professional and able outfit. Hard to see us turning them over in the Championship, don't have the players in the full forward line.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: scoopmine on March 19, 2019, 03:05:54 PM
Quote from: Westside on March 18, 2019, 08:38:26 PM
Quote from: Itchy on March 17, 2019, 03:39:30 PM
Did anyone make the match. Very disappointing show again.  Last 2 games have been steps backward in my opinion. Where to start..

1- Freetaking. Abysmal, disorganised, no one seems to know who is taking them. I've cut Mickey some slack but for f**k sake this needs to get sorted. If I say Raymond Galligan run up the field again only to be told to go back I will scream. Our most reliable free taker this year is Jack Brady and he is on the bench. Niall McKiernan gets a first start and he gets to be on frees. Its bonkers. Sort it out Mickey. Monaghan stayed in touch thanks to frees, i dont think they got a point from play in the first half. Oh yes and if the bloody free isnt on then recycle the ball instead of blasting it wide.

2- Mcvitty midfield. Maybe we were forced into it as Thomas Galligan and Paul Graham were not togged but for me this is a waste of Mcvitty. You need him running from deep or closer to goal. I was not impressed with Clarke in there either. Didnt do enough for me.

3- New lads. Most are simply not up this level yet. Poor decision making, playing the ball backwards as not strong enough to take on a man. There is a bit about Rehill and Gerry Smith needs to up his work rate, too much swanning around and not enough getting stuck in.

4- Forward play. Again Mickey Graham needs to do more here. Leaving a big immobile player like Niall McKiernan on his own in the FF line and bringing our main scoring threat of the whole league Madden way out the field was crazy. We looked like we hadnt a clue how to attack.

5- Tackling/Discipline. Its brutal, lads who use to be able to tackle are now flat footed and throwing in lazy arms and conceding frees against teams that can score within 50m of the goal. Then the usual moaning - 3 free brought in by the ref yesterday and McVitty black card probably for moaning too. Again Mickey can surely see that this is a problem so what is he doing about it. I listened to an interview with Killan Clarke after Tyrone game and he was talking some crap about how the ref was determined to get him. What a load of bollox Killian. Senior player should be looking at himself, not the ref.

6- Leaders. I think we dont have any on the pitch.

Positives

Moynagh had a serious game and really brought it to Monaghan. McKiernan had an impact as a sub. Full back line was good. Apart from that there were none. As things stand I cannot see us spring anything on monaghan in Ulster I am afraid.

Came on to post my impressions, this covers everything.

Depressing day in Clones, Monaghan just looked like a far far more professional and able outfit. Hard to see us turning them over in the Championship, don't have the players in the full forward line.

Only getting a chance to reply now. I am not actually as down on the weekend as some.

First thing first we need a genuine free taker. Even to carry, chap from Baileboro or Connolly two names that come to mind.

The referee was awful and any decisions going went to Monaghan. Mcmanus could easily have seen red. Our kick outs always seem to go long which was great in the first half when we were on top but not when Monaghan got on top of us.

Gerry Smith first game starting back at this level in a year will improve the half back line come championship. Monagh is a real leader and shows real aggression stupid from him to get a ball thrown up. Clarke was obviously done to stick with Hughes. Madden is proving he is for this level seriously workrate. I would love to see McVeety inside, I have never seen him lined out at midfield but last year he was a goal threat and was closer in to kick scores. Podge done well on Mcmanus to a point and is the man for the job.  G coming on as our most important player is huge and could see the difference he made. I can't see C O'Reilly getting back up to speed for this year and he will be a miss.

Overall I believe we can improve more than the Monaghan team can and there is hope for turning them over come championship. Mickey is the right man for the job and although is disappointing to be going down at least there seems to be a plan compared to the bluffer last year.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on March 19, 2019, 03:47:38 PM
Quote from: scoopmine on March 19, 2019, 03:05:54 PM
Quote from: Westside on March 18, 2019, 08:38:26 PM
Quote from: Itchy on March 17, 2019, 03:39:30 PM
Did anyone make the match. Very disappointing show again.  Last 2 games have been steps backward in my opinion. Where to start..

1- Freetaking. Abysmal, disorganised, no one seems to know who is taking them. I've cut Mickey some slack but for f**k sake this needs to get sorted. If I say Raymond Galligan run up the field again only to be told to go back I will scream. Our most reliable free taker this year is Jack Brady and he is on the bench. Niall McKiernan gets a first start and he gets to be on frees. Its bonkers. Sort it out Mickey. Monaghan stayed in touch thanks to frees, i dont think they got a point from play in the first half. Oh yes and if the bloody free isnt on then recycle the ball instead of blasting it wide.

2- Mcvitty midfield. Maybe we were forced into it as Thomas Galligan and Paul Graham were not togged but for me this is a waste of Mcvitty. You need him running from deep or closer to goal. I was not impressed with Clarke in there either. Didnt do enough for me.

3- New lads. Most are simply not up this level yet. Poor decision making, playing the ball backwards as not strong enough to take on a man. There is a bit about Rehill and Gerry Smith needs to up his work rate, too much swanning around and not enough getting stuck in.

4- Forward play. Again Mickey Graham needs to do more here. Leaving a big immobile player like Niall McKiernan on his own in the FF line and bringing our main scoring threat of the whole league Madden way out the field was crazy. We looked like we hadnt a clue how to attack.

5- Tackling/Discipline. Its brutal, lads who use to be able to tackle are now flat footed and throwing in lazy arms and conceding frees against teams that can score within 50m of the goal. Then the usual moaning - 3 free brought in by the ref yesterday and McVitty black card probably for moaning too. Again Mickey can surely see that this is a problem so what is he doing about it. I listened to an interview with Killan Clarke after Tyrone game and he was talking some crap about how the ref was determined to get him. What a load of bollox Killian. Senior player should be looking at himself, not the ref.

6- Leaders. I think we dont have any on the pitch.

Positives

Moynagh had a serious game and really brought it to Monaghan. McKiernan had an impact as a sub. Full back line was good. Apart from that there were none. As things stand I cannot see us spring anything on monaghan in Ulster I am afraid.

Came on to post my impressions, this covers everything.

Depressing day in Clones, Monaghan just looked like a far far more professional and able outfit. Hard to see us turning them over in the Championship, don't have the players in the full forward line.

Only getting a chance to reply now. I am not actually as down on the weekend as some.

First thing first we need a genuine free taker. Even to carry, chap from Baileboro or Connolly two names that come to mind.

The referee was awful and any decisions going went to Monaghan. Mcmanus could easily have seen red. Our kick outs always seem to go long which was great in the first half when we were on top but not when Monaghan got on top of us.

Gerry Smith first game starting back at this level in a year will improve the half back line come championship. Monagh is a real leader and shows real aggression stupid from him to get a ball thrown up. Clarke was obviously done to stick with Hughes. Madden is proving he is for this level seriously workrate. I would love to see McVeety inside, I have never seen him lined out at midfield but last year he was a goal threat and was closer in to kick scores. Podge done well on Mcmanus to a point and is the man for the job.  G coming on as our most important player is huge and could see the difference he made. I can't see C O'Reilly getting back up to speed for this year and he will be a miss.

Overall I believe we can improve more than the Monaghan team can and there is hope for turning them over come championship. Mickey is the right man for the job and although is disappointing to be going down at least there seems to be a plan compared to the bluffer last year.

The ref was indeed woeful but for me he was woeful for both teams, I dont think he favoured Monaghan us over . I think they just made more of their frees than we did. Monaghan should have had at least one sending off. McManus's was border line for me but the assault that followed a few mins later in front of the stand was a stone wall red card and the linesman stood right in front of it. Yes, there are reasons we can improve a lot but where are the scores going to come from. McKiernan is going to get dogs abuse in that game, a spoiler will follow him around like a bad smell.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mrdeeds on March 24, 2019, 06:26:17 PM
Done ok today but Dublin always that bit better. McVeety class inside and Gearoid is getting back to speed. Thought our backs done ok and it was mostly man to man. Couple strange decisions. Clear point for Martin and then the free against Martin that led to goal. Our kickouts good. Frees still an issue. Good to see Oisin Kiernan back after treatment. Seems discipline still an issue off the field.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on March 24, 2019, 09:23:46 PM
Quote from: mrdeeds on March 24, 2019, 06:26:17 PM
Done ok today but Dublin always that bit better. McVeety class inside and Gearoid is getting back to speed. Thought our backs done ok and it was mostly man to man. Couple strange decisions. Clear point for Martin and then the free against Martin that led to goal. Our kickouts good. Frees still an issue. Good to see Oisin Kiernan back after treatment. Seems discipline still an issue off the field.

That anything to do with Mackey not on the bench?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on March 24, 2019, 10:13:19 PM
Anyone know for sure who was dropped for discipline? Could potentially be some not there because of injury?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mrdeeds on March 25, 2019, 08:26:43 AM
Quote from: Westside on March 24, 2019, 10:13:19 PM
Anyone know for sure who was dropped for discipline? Could potentially be some not there because of injury?

Yeah two lads dropped for discipline reasons.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on March 25, 2019, 01:11:52 PM
Quote from: mrdeeds on March 25, 2019, 08:26:43 AM
Quote from: Westside on March 24, 2019, 10:13:19 PM
Anyone know for sure who was dropped for discipline? Could potentially be some not there because of injury?

Yeah two lads dropped for discipline reasons.

Surprised at Holla.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on March 25, 2019, 02:42:49 PM
Quote from: Westside on March 25, 2019, 01:11:52 PM
Quote from: mrdeeds on March 25, 2019, 08:26:43 AM
Quote from: Westside on March 24, 2019, 10:13:19 PM
Anyone know for sure who was dropped for discipline? Could potentially be some not there because of injury?

Yeah two lads dropped for discipline reasons.

Surprised at Holla.

Wasnt there a rumour about him last year before Donegal too? I thought we left this crap in the past. Sad to see.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: scoopmine on May 07, 2019, 11:36:24 AM
It is quiet here two weeks till el classico!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: the goal was on on May 07, 2019, 01:03:17 PM
cavan playing dublin tonight in parnell park so obviosuly preparations are being ramped up!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: scoopmine on May 08, 2019, 02:36:03 PM
Had a game myself otherwise I would have go to it. Any team or changes if you were at it!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on May 31, 2019, 01:05:14 PM
Very quiet in here. I'm quietly confident that we can shade this but afraid of a loss and what it could do to this batch of players. This is our best chance of an Ulster Final since 2009, if they cant do it now will they ever? Sincerely hope the players dont have the same trepidation.

Start Conroy instead of Oisin Kiernan and put him on frees. Get the defensive match ups right and get a performance from McVeety inside and we'll be in a good position. If someone gives McGeeney a good dunt of a shoulder at some point, great.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on June 01, 2019, 11:12:29 PM
U20s had another good win away to Derry today, 0-20 to 3-10 following on from their hammering of Louth. Looks to be some talent in that team.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on June 03, 2019, 10:57:23 AM
Murray has probably done enough to take Gerry Smith's place for the replay. Uses his pace very well. Thought Paul Graham was very poor when he came on. Conor Brady added very little. Moynagh again showed great leadership and bad decision making.

It will be very interesting to see how we approach the replay.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on June 03, 2019, 11:29:43 AM
So there will be 2 places up for grabs on the panel now with Gerry Smith surely gone with his hamstring and Holla suspended. Holla is starting to look like the new Anthony Gaynor, not able to keep his cool and he will cost us dear some day if he doesnt sort himself out. Lashing out at a cynical diver like shields is only going to result in one thing.

It will be fascinating next week. We allowed a number of our big men to be wiped out. Contrary to Pat Spillanes commentary last night, I thought Gearoid was poor yesterday. I believe he was sick during the week so that might explain it. Not sure what was going on with Martin Reilly at Full Forward and why we never tried one high ball in on Thomas Galligan when he was FF. For me you need Martin out in the action areas making tackles and carrying the ball. I hope Caoimhin Reilly is doing enough to make the panel as I would have loved to see him involved for the last 10 minutes of extra time. Conor Brady struggled at midfield so we may need to look at something else there, maybe Martin Reilly on Jarleth Og Burns?

It is still there for us but we need to improve 20% I think.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mrdeeds on June 03, 2019, 11:56:28 AM
Quote from: Itchy on June 03, 2019, 11:29:43 AM
So there will be 2 places up for grabs on the panel now with Gerry Smith surely gone with his hamstring and Holla suspended. Holla is starting to look like the new Anthony Gaynor, not able to keep his cool and he will cost us dear some day if he doesnt sort himself out. Lashing out at a cynical diver like shields is only going to result in one thing.

It will be fascinating next week. We allowed a number of our big men to be wiped out. Contrary to Pat Spillanes commentary last night, I thought Gearoid was poor yesterday. I believe he was sick during the week so that might explain it. Not sure what was going on with Martin Reilly at Full Forward and why we never tried one high ball in on Thomas Galligan when he was FF. For me you need Martin out in the action areas making tackles and carrying the ball. I hope Caoimhin Reilly is doing enough to make the panel as I would have loved to see him involved for the last 10 minutes of extra time. Conor Brady struggled at midfield so we may need to look at something else there, maybe Martin Reilly on Jarleth Og Burns?

It is still there for us but we need to improve 20% I think.

Do you start Mackey or use him off bench?

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on June 03, 2019, 12:23:14 PM
Off the bench I reckon.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on June 03, 2019, 01:27:26 PM
Agree with you there Itchy on Gearoid and Martin Reilly. Why would you put Reilly inside and limit his possessions when his biggest strength is carrying ball and making penetrating runs and passes?

I would love to know what Mickey sees that we dont that would put Oisin Pierson ahead of Caoimhin in the pecking order. Genuinely interested.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on June 10, 2019, 09:54:25 AM
What a great day yesterday was. If you told me at the start of the year we would pretty much go into Ulster championship playing man for man football and beat Monaghan and Armagh doing it I would have thought you were crazy. It was a fantastic game yesterday. Our big players really stood up. Clarke was outstanding, McVetty unmarkable, Moynagh stuck in everything. Some of McVeety's points were top drawer marquee forward stuff. Mackey and Stephen Murray brought danger onto the field from Armagh perspective.

I thought though our backs did ok transitioning from defence to forwards that they were really struggling with Armaghs direct running. How they dont start Campbell I dont know as we couldnt deal with him at all and when Jamie Clarke started firing we struggled too. I suppose that's the price you pay when you play that style of football. Can we do the same against Donegal? I am not so sure.

Galligan had a mixed day. A good few misfires from Kickouts and a few very poor passes when he came out but mixes with two brilliant saves and 3 superb points from frees.

So we have an outside chance in the final, nothing is expected from us so we can really just go out and push hard and see what happens. There should be no fear, we have beaten many of these Donegal players at u21 and to be honest they'll be potentially over confident based on beating Tyrone. I never saw a Tyrone team play as bad which did make Donegal look much better than maybe they really are - hopefully.

Onwards and upwards.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on June 15, 2019, 08:54:12 AM
U20s playing in the pre season league final this evening against Down. Seems like a long time since we won silverware at this grade so would be nice to pick up the win today.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on June 24, 2019, 10:03:43 AM
Disappointing yesterday although I suppose in hindsight I shouldnt have been surprised. Donegal are a long way ahead of us that is clear and yet we just didnt turn up either and make them work as hard as could have. We were routed on our own kick outs for me McKiernan was very poor despite getting on the end of a few attacks, there was no work out of him. Its a stage now where he needs to play FF and roam in the opposition 3rd and stay there. Galligan took a big step backwards with his performance, a number of poor kick outs but probably also due to lack of movement for him too. I am not sure what the plan was on Murphy but it didnt work. It was a real mess to be honest. That being said fair play to the Moynaghs and Martin Reillys that kept going to the end. So it is likely that the following will be in the hat to play us...

Mayo
Tyrone
Laois
Westmeath/Clare

So a 50:50 chance of a very winnable game, Super 8s would be a tremendous achievement for the lads in year 1 of this regime if we could get that bit of luck.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on June 24, 2019, 11:42:13 AM
I have a terrible feeling that we'll land Tyrone. It's probably just my imagination but it always seems that if there's an Ulster team in the qualifier hat that we'd rather avoid, we surely end up with them. The very last thing this team needs right now is Tyrone in a do-or-die match, another limp display could set our lads back a long way.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on June 24, 2019, 11:55:24 AM
According to many people we cannot draw Armagh should they beat Mayo and more likely Meath cannot play Laois should Laois get through. So hopefully Armagh and Laois win which will increase our chances of a lower grade team. However, you are probably right we will get bloody Tyrone.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on July 01, 2019, 11:23:17 AM
Aaaaand there it is. Typical. You'd obviously remain slightly hopeful in a year we got the Roscommon and Monaghan monkeys off our backs but the potential for a morale crushing experience looms large because Tyrone always seem to just strangle the life out of us. Here's hoping but that's a very deflating draw overall, sickening actually.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on July 02, 2019, 06:11:08 PM
Anyone know any more abut the row that resulted in Pierson getting his hand broken?

Could be lads giving it all at training and things get out of hand or it could be egos and frustration...
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mrdeeds on July 07, 2019, 08:56:58 PM
Quote from: Westside on July 02, 2019, 06:11:08 PM
Anyone know any more abut the row that resulted in Pierson getting his hand broken?

Could be lads giving it all at training and things get out of hand or it could be egos and frustration...

He was boxing one of the Gaels lads.

Since when was Jason Reilly involved with team?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: redzone on July 14, 2019, 09:16:36 PM
Killian Clarke has a picture up on twitter of stamp marks on him, christ it's bad looking. If it's not bad enough mossy corr tells him to grow a pair of balls
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on July 14, 2019, 10:43:45 PM
Quote from: redzone on July 14, 2019, 09:16:36 PM
Killian Clarke has a picture up on twitter of stamp marks on him, christ it's bad looking. If it's not bad enough mossy corr tells him to grow a pair of balls

Maybe he should
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: redzone on August 10, 2019, 08:40:58 AM
Get the reports up on the club championship games over the weekend lads
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mrdeeds on August 10, 2019, 09:23:25 AM
Quote from: redzone on August 10, 2019, 08:40:58 AM
Get the reports up on the club championship games over the weekend lads

In Breffni last night and hope to go again tonight.

Lavey better team by a mile but discipline let them down. Gerry Smith ran riot till Castlerahan put Fergal Reilly on him while Cullivan dominated midfield despite looking way overweight. Lavey had two red cards and another lucky to get away with no card when on a yellow. Lavey kicked a lot wide in first half and Castlerahan came from 11 points down to go one up. Conroy had a free on 45 to draw but dropped short but then converted a handy one. Lavey definitely deserved a draw. Tierney and Enda O Connell was a great battle and Duke was very good too. Castlerahan brought on Paul Smith and Oisin O Connell which helped them too. Oisin Kiernan had a good game and kicked 3 45s while Daly battled well. Conroy probably best player on pitch. Lavey much more physical team and used their physicality well.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on August 10, 2019, 10:56:49 PM
Some thrashing of the gaels by crosserlough. They've a great chance to win it out this year I think.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mrdeeds on August 26, 2019, 12:40:23 PM
The senior championship looking open with Ramor having a superb result. Castlerahan and Kingscourt only teams through to QF. Strange result in junior with the Munchies hammering Killinkere and it effectively eliminated Denn. I still think Killinkere will win it though.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mrdeeds on September 29, 2019, 09:59:08 PM
And then there were two. Good local derby.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Look-Up! on September 30, 2019, 05:52:27 PM
It'll be a tight cagey affair I'd imagine. Hard to call a winner but I'd go for a Ramor win. They're coming together nicely at the right time. Gaels and Ramor play a very similar style and Castlerahan struggled against them at times. The introduction of Mackey helped them pick the Gaels defense but Ramor are a much better outfit. Mackey will need to be in top form for the cup to go to BJD plus there doesn't look to be 60 minutes in him. Ramor defense is more tenacious than what they faced last night and their full forward line is also much superior. Cole really does look a handful. They're very strong in midfield too and Jack Brady is playing great stuff at number 6. They like to soak up the pressure with 13 behind the ball and break very fast with good ball carriers like Brady and Cadden when they turn over. They have good ball winners inside to if they decide to go long. That's my 2 cents worth anyway.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mrdeeds on October 01, 2019, 07:23:21 PM
I'll go tight cagey affair. I'll sit on fence and say draw.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Look-Up! on October 01, 2019, 08:05:34 PM
Quote from: mrdeeds on October 01, 2019, 07:23:21 PM
I'll go tight cagey affair. I'll sit on fence and say draw.
Would be a good bet if there's any sort of odds at all
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Look-Up! on October 13, 2019, 07:13:10 PM
Poor game in greasy conditions. Ref let the game go as best he could but some of his decisions were very questionable.
Ramor will be kicking themselves. Their shot selection and execution was terrible. Cole looked a very frustrated figure throughout but especially first half where he looked to have the beating of his man every time but they refused to go to him for some reason. When they did some of the balls in to him were over hit and wayward to say the least.
You wouldn't pick out too many forwards for the county from either team there today.
Congratulations to Mackey on his second medal. The very least the man deserves. Thee outstanding footballer in the county for many years now.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on October 13, 2019, 07:32:22 PM
Yeah a poor game. Some bad misses, especially by Ramor. Cole kicked 2 good scores in first half but they didn't kick in enough to him. A bad miss by James Brady from the free near the end, but game wasn't lost on that miss.
Castlerahan overall probaly the more assured team.   
Oisin O Connell took the goal well and kicked a great score in second half. He is a great outlet with his speed, but probaly not County standard.

Castlerahan play the Donegal champions in Breffni. It will probaly be Gweedore. They would need a big improvement to beat them. A great achievement to to back to back after the previous final defeats. A very consistent team. They retained the league also.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Look-Up! on October 13, 2019, 07:48:19 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on October 13, 2019, 07:32:22 PM
Yeah a poor game. Some bad misses, especially by Ramor. Cole kicked 2 good scores in first half but they didn't kick in enough to him. A bad miss by James Brady from the free near the end, but game wasn't lost on that miss.
Castlerahan overall probaly the more assured team.   
Oisin O Connell took the goal well and kicked a great score in second half. He is a great outlet with his speed, but probaly not County standard.

Castlerahan play the Donegal champions in Breffni. It will probaly be Gweedore. They would need a big improvement to beat them. A great achievement to to back to back after the previous final defeats. A very consistent team. They retained the league also.

Yeah I think they will struggle in Ulster. They don't look as strong as they did last year either.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: PeterEli on October 17, 2019, 09:30:52 AM
Lads, Tyrone poster here. Just wondering how many attended your county final? Seen some highlights and it looked a huge crowd.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: five points on October 17, 2019, 10:23:49 AM
Quote from: PeterEli on October 17, 2019, 09:30:52 AM
Lads, Tyrone poster here. Just wondering how many attended your county final? Seen some highlights and it looked a huge crowd.

Official attendance was around 7,700 I think.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on October 17, 2019, 01:28:16 PM
McVitty and Moynagh gone for the year next year I am told. Gone travelling.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on October 17, 2019, 04:05:26 PM
McVeety was suppose to be gone for 4 months. He said he'd be back middle of league, whether that's changed or not.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on November 03, 2019, 04:41:22 PM
Poor performance from Castlerahan today in Breffni. It took them 18  minutes before their first score, for a team with 3 weeks preparation that's not good enough.  Glenties started very sharp and extra games were helping them. Castlerahan had an open goal in the first but Flanagan over hit the pass.. Leahy made a great save at the other end They faded in the last 15 minutes of second half and castlerahan came more into it.  Mackey was sluggish when he came on. Sean Brady showed wellgood when he came, but wasn't good performance over all.

Glenties County players were good, especially the 2 Thompsons.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on November 03, 2019, 05:49:06 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on November 03, 2019, 04:41:22 PM
Poor performance from Castlerahan today in Breffni. It took them 18  minutes before their first score, for a team with 3 weeks preparation that's not good enough.  Glenties started very sharp and extra games were helping them. Castlerahan had an open goal in the first but Flanagan over hit the pass.. Leahy made a great save at the other end They faded in the last 15 minutes of second half and castlerahan came more into it.  Mackey was sluggish when he came on. Sean Brady showed wellgood when he came, but wasn't good performance over all.

Glenties County players were good, especially the 2 Thompsons.

Not surprised, Cavan club football is way off where it needs to be to compete. Even after Glenties replays and lack of prep, the bookies still had them as strong favourites. Says it all.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: marty34 on November 03, 2019, 05:59:23 PM
Quote from: Itchy on November 03, 2019, 05:49:06 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on November 03, 2019, 04:41:22 PM
Poor performance from Castlerahan today in Breffni. It took them 18  minutes before their first score, for a team with 3 weeks preparation that's not good enough.  Glenties started very sharp and extra games were helping them. Castlerahan had an open goal in the first but Flanagan over hit the pass.. Leahy made a great save at the other end They faded in the last 15 minutes of second half and castlerahan came more into it.  Mackey was sluggish when he came on. Sean Brady showed wellgood when he came, but wasn't good performance over all.

Glenties County players were good, especially the 2 Thompsons.

Not surprised, Cavan club football is way off where it needs to be to compete. Even after Glenties replays and lack of prep, the bookies still had them as strong favourites. Says it all.

Yeah, that's shocking after what NC have went through and how poor Castlerahan were.

When was Cavan final played?  Was it too much of a break but they should be fresh.  Poor showing.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on November 03, 2019, 06:09:49 PM
It was played the week before the first drawn Donegal Co final. Essentially Naomh Connail had 3 competitive games while Castlerahan were training and playing a challenge game. If Castlerahan had won today, it would have been Glenties were tired. Castlerahan weren't good enough,end of, 7 behind at one stage in second half. NC then tired and went a long period without scoring, before Anthony Thompson clinched it at the end..

I think if both teams had same preoperation,NC would still win by 4 or 5.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on November 03, 2019, 07:06:21 PM
Outside of the tiredness and sharpness debate, NC would have had no chance to do any assessment of castlerahan while castlerahan would have had two games to watch NC. That should have been a big advantage but doesn't look like it.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on November 03, 2019, 07:11:35 PM
Yeah, Keoghan was at the 3 Donegal finals. Castlerahan came out like a team heavy legged, while Glenties were sharp. It took Castlerahan 18 minutes efore the first score. They should have had how some idea how to break the defence of Glenties.

Castlerahan wouldn't have many well known players outside of Cavan, but Glenties were probaly planning for Mackey and he only came on in second half..
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: marty34 on November 03, 2019, 08:30:44 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on November 03, 2019, 06:09:49 PM
It was played the week before the first drawn Donegal Co final. Essentially Naomh Connail had 3 competitive games while Castlerahan were training and playing a challenge game. If Castlerahan had won today, it would have been Glenties were tired. Castlerahan weren't good enough,end of, 7 behind at one stage in second half. NC then tired and went a long period without scoring, before Anthony Thompson clinched it at the end..

I think if both teams had same preoperation,NC would still win by 4 or 5.

True, if Castlerahan won, people would have said NC were shattered and if NC won, it was that were battle hardened - funny how it works.

I wonder will all the heavy legs catch up on NC the next day even though they have a good break?  Sometimes it works like that.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: redzone on November 03, 2019, 08:39:14 PM
Quote from: marty34 on November 03, 2019, 08:30:44 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on November 03, 2019, 06:09:49 PM
It was played the week before the first drawn Donegal Co final. Essentially Naomh Connail had 3 competitive games while Castlerahan were training and playing a challenge game. If Castlerahan had won today, it would have been Glenties were tired. Castlerahan weren't good enough,end of, 7 behind at one stage in second half. NC then tired and went a long period without scoring, before Anthony Thompson clinched it at the end..

I think if both teams had same preoperation,NC would still win by 4 or 5.

True, if Castlerahan won, people would have said NC were shattered and if NC won, it was that were battle hardened - funny how it works.

I wonder will all the heavy legs catch up on NC the next day even though they have a good break?  Sometimes it works like that.
Never in the history of sport has anyone had heavy legs 2 weeks later.
If clontibert beat them it will be because they are better
Was the glenties doctor playing mind games I wonder
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Look-Up! on November 27, 2019, 06:47:00 PM
3 big drop outs from the panel for next year. It's unfortunate but at least they have given management fair warning of their intentions and are not leaving mid way through the season. I had hoped we'd be pushing for promotion again this term but at this stage I'd be very happy with keeping our D2 status next year.
Long term it may prove to be a blessing in disguise when/if they return to the panel. You'd hope in the meantime we'll see some of the younger players step up to the plate and capable of taking on greater responsibility and on-field leadership duties, something lacking against the better teams. It's a sink or swim scenario and I'm hoping to be pleasantly surprised. It's a big if though.
Last time we had a few players leave in Mattie's second season in charge, despite all the doom and gloom at the time, it was mostly fringe players who hadn't really cemented a permanent starting place in the team. We still had the core of our team relatively intact and a few of the younger lads thrived. This time, despite some of the criticisms these lads have gotten their way, they are a huge part of the core of our team. Added to that, Mackey and Martin Reilly are a couple of years older. Johnston is unlikely to feature. Think McKiernan may be missing for a good bit of the league too. So it's going to be a tough baptism for a lot of these lads and some of the more seasoned D2 teams might see this team as a soft touch and an opponent that can be physically bullied out of a game.
We'll see what the first few games bring. Mickey mentioned getting strength and conditioning up to speed as a priority. Hopefully we see some bearing fruit early in this department. I think we'll need it.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on November 27, 2019, 07:38:43 PM
I'm sorry but this doesnt happen in counties that are serious about winning. There is a deficiency in our players, they dont want to do what is needed to succeed (which is their right).

I wonder what a dedicated stalworth like Martin Reilly thinks, hence few years left to win that Ulster and these boys pretty much have made sure that wont happen this year.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Look-Up! on November 27, 2019, 10:17:31 PM
Quote from: Itchy on November 27, 2019, 07:38:43 PM
I'm sorry but this doesnt happen in counties that are serious about winning. There is a deficiency in our players, they dont want to do what is needed to succeed (which is their right).

I wonder what a dedicated stalworth like Martin Reilly thinks, hence few years left to win that Ulster and these boys pretty much have made sure that wont happen this year.

Winning Ulster? Realistically we are a marquee forward, a free taker and a total of about 5/6 positions short of being a team of real contenders for Ulster. Short of that we would need a massive slice of luck to land the Anglo Celt cup.
These 3 lads are a massive loss especially for the league which has been a happier hunting ground for us over the last few years but as far as championship goes, without more help, these lads are not winning an Ulster medal. Too many players go missing in the hard games. If they feel burned out then you have to respect that, hope they go away and find the gra again. It's not ideal granted and for a small county the loss will be more pronounced but plenty of top players walk away for a bit. Some with AI medals in their pockets. It's a huge commitment playing IC and the grass might look greener on the other side. But it's a very short career so hopefully they miss it badly when they're away and are chomping at the bit to come back.
In the meantime we have to get on with it and be positive. It's a chance for more players to step up to the mark when the chips are down. It's going to be physical and tough in the league next year and there are now less hiding places on the field. If the voids are filled then long term we could end up with a stronger team.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on November 27, 2019, 10:54:09 PM
Quote from: Look-Up! on November 27, 2019, 10:17:31 PM
Quote from: Itchy on November 27, 2019, 07:38:43 PM
I'm sorry but this doesnt happen in counties that are serious about winning. There is a deficiency in our players, they dont want to do what is needed to succeed (which is their right).

I wonder what a dedicated stalworth like Martin Reilly thinks, hence few years left to win that Ulster and these boys pretty much have made sure that wont happen this year.

Winning Ulster? Realistically we are a marquee forward, a free taker and a total of about 5/6 positions short of being a team of real contenders for Ulster. Short of that we would need a massive slice of luck to land the Anglo Celt cup.
These 3 lads are a massive loss especially for the league which has been a happier hunting ground for us over the last few years but as far as championship goes, without more help, these lads are not winning an Ulster medal. Too many players go missing in the hard games. If they feel burned out then you have to respect that, hope they go away and find the gra again. It's not ideal granted and for a small county the loss will be more pronounced but plenty of top players walk away for a bit. Some with AI medals in their pockets. It's a huge commitment playing IC and the grass might look greener on the other side. But it's a very short career so hopefully they miss it badly when they're away and are chomping at the bit to come back.
In the meantime we have to get on with it and be positive. It's a chance for more players to step up to the mark when the chips are down. It's going to be physical and tough in the league next year and there are now less hiding places on the field. If the voids are filled then long term we could end up with a stronger team.

It's a vicious circle. When you start to think and believe like you say above then you will win  nothing. I've bo doubt our mentally weak players think exactly like that and that's why they leave like this. Dessue Moan retured today after 16 years I think with Monaghan. That's why monaghan win a few Ulster's and we win  nothing. Sickens me to say it
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Look-Up! on November 27, 2019, 11:25:26 PM
Quote from: Itchy on November 27, 2019, 10:54:09 PM
Quote from: Look-Up! on November 27, 2019, 10:17:31 PM
Quote from: Itchy on November 27, 2019, 07:38:43 PM
I'm sorry but this doesnt happen in counties that are serious about winning. There is a deficiency in our players, they dont want to do what is needed to succeed (which is their right).

I wonder what a dedicated stalworth like Martin Reilly thinks, hence few years left to win that Ulster and these boys pretty much have made sure that wont happen this year.

Winning Ulster? Realistically we are a marquee forward, a free taker and a total of about 5/6 positions short of being a team of real contenders for Ulster. Short of that we would need a massive slice of luck to land the Anglo Celt cup.
These 3 lads are a massive loss especially for the league which has been a happier hunting ground for us over the last few years but as far as championship goes, without more help, these lads are not winning an Ulster medal. Too many players go missing in the hard games. If they feel burned out then you have to respect that, hope they go away and find the gra again. It's not ideal granted and for a small county the loss will be more pronounced but plenty of top players walk away for a bit. Some with AI medals in their pockets. It's a huge commitment playing IC and the grass might look greener on the other side. But it's a very short career so hopefully they miss it badly when they're away and are chomping at the bit to come back.
In the meantime we have to get on with it and be positive. It's a chance for more players to step up to the mark when the chips are down. It's going to be physical and tough in the league next year and there are now less hiding places on the field. If the voids are filled then long term we could end up with a stronger team.

It's a vicious circle. When you start to think and believe like you say above then you will win  nothing. I've bo doubt our mentally weak players think exactly like that and that's why they leave like this. Dessue Moan retured today after 16 years I think with Monaghan. That's why monaghan win a few Ulster's and we win  nothing. Sickens me to say it
Eh. I was in Clones for both of Dessie's triumphs. Without Conor McManus I'd say he'd be retiring empty handed and may have done so long before now. That's not to say he's not a great stalwart. He deserves his successes and played a vital role in those victories but McManus was unreal, especially the second day.
I don't like labeling our players mentally weak either. Everyone hits their wall at some stage and going up against bigger counties with bigger talent pools the bar is naturally going to be higher. There's no shame in meeting your match. I wouldn't be too quick either to question their commitment. They sacrifice a hell of a lot. If there's better players in the county let them stand up.   
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on November 28, 2019, 09:03:37 AM
Quote from: Look-Up! on November 27, 2019, 11:25:26 PM
Quote from: Itchy on November 27, 2019, 10:54:09 PM
Quote from: Look-Up! on November 27, 2019, 10:17:31 PM
Quote from: Itchy on November 27, 2019, 07:38:43 PM
I'm sorry but this doesnt happen in counties that are serious about winning. There is a deficiency in our players, they dont want to do what is needed to succeed (which is their right).

I wonder what a dedicated stalworth like Martin Reilly thinks, hence few years left to win that Ulster and these boys pretty much have made sure that wont happen this year.

Winning Ulster? Realistically we are a marquee forward, a free taker and a total of about 5/6 positions short of being a team of real contenders for Ulster. Short of that we would need a massive slice of luck to land the Anglo Celt cup.
These 3 lads are a massive loss especially for the league which has been a happier hunting ground for us over the last few years but as far as championship goes, without more help, these lads are not winning an Ulster medal. Too many players go missing in the hard games. If they feel burned out then you have to respect that, hope they go away and find the gra again. It's not ideal granted and for a small county the loss will be more pronounced but plenty of top players walk away for a bit. Some with AI medals in their pockets. It's a huge commitment playing IC and the grass might look greener on the other side. But it's a very short career so hopefully they miss it badly when they're away and are chomping at the bit to come back.
In the meantime we have to get on with it and be positive. It's a chance for more players to step up to the mark when the chips are down. It's going to be physical and tough in the league next year and there are now less hiding places on the field. If the voids are filled then long term we could end up with a stronger team.

It's a vicious circle. When you start to think and believe like you say above then you will win  nothing. I've bo doubt our mentally weak players think exactly like that and that's why they leave like this. Dessue Moan retured today after 16 years I think with Monaghan. That's why monaghan win a few Ulster's and we win  nothing. Sickens me to say it
Eh. I was in Clones for both of Dessie's triumphs. Without Conor McManus I'd say he'd be retiring empty handed and may have done so long before now. That's not to say he's not a great stalwart. He deserves his successes and played a vital role in those victories but McManus was unreal, especially the second day.
I don't like labeling our players mentally weak either. Everyone hits their wall at some stage and going up against bigger counties with bigger talent pools the bar is naturally going to be higher. There's no shame in meeting your match. I wouldn't be too quick either to question their commitment. They sacrifice a hell of a lot. If there's better players in the county let them stand up.

I never said there were better players in the county. What I said was they are mentally weak and I stand by that. You can see it on the field too when they play Tyrone or Donegal, bet before the ball is thrown in. I could also say they lack belief. I feel sorry for players like Martin Reilly, never gave up, keeps coming back hoping to get across the line for glory and then in December you find out that 3 of your best players aren't going to commit. But you know Martin keeps going back because he loves the jersey. I suppose we can only hope they come back hungry for success.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Look-Up! on November 28, 2019, 02:14:59 PM
Quote from: Itchy on November 28, 2019, 09:03:37 AM
Quote from: Look-Up! on November 27, 2019, 11:25:26 PM
Quote from: Itchy on November 27, 2019, 10:54:09 PM
Quote from: Look-Up! on November 27, 2019, 10:17:31 PM
Quote from: Itchy on November 27, 2019, 07:38:43 PM
I'm sorry but this doesnt happen in counties that are serious about winning. There is a deficiency in our players, they dont want to do what is needed to succeed (which is their right).

I wonder what a dedicated stalworth like Martin Reilly thinks, hence few years left to win that Ulster and these boys pretty much have made sure that wont happen this year.

Winning Ulster? Realistically we are a marquee forward, a free taker and a total of about 5/6 positions short of being a team of real contenders for Ulster. Short of that we would need a massive slice of luck to land the Anglo Celt cup.
These 3 lads are a massive loss especially for the league which has been a happier hunting ground for us over the last few years but as far as championship goes, without more help, these lads are not winning an Ulster medal. Too many players go missing in the hard games. If they feel burned out then you have to respect that, hope they go away and find the gra again. It's not ideal granted and for a small county the loss will be more pronounced but plenty of top players walk away for a bit. Some with AI medals in their pockets. It's a huge commitment playing IC and the grass might look greener on the other side. But it's a very short career so hopefully they miss it badly when they're away and are chomping at the bit to come back.
In the meantime we have to get on with it and be positive. It's a chance for more players to step up to the mark when the chips are down. It's going to be physical and tough in the league next year and there are now less hiding places on the field. If the voids are filled then long term we could end up with a stronger team.

It's a vicious circle. When you start to think and believe like you say above then you will win  nothing. I've bo doubt our mentally weak players think exactly like that and that's why they leave like this. Dessue Moan retured today after 16 years I think with Monaghan. That's why monaghan win a few Ulster's and we win  nothing. Sickens me to say it
Eh. I was in Clones for both of Dessie's triumphs. Without Conor McManus I'd say he'd be retiring empty handed and may have done so long before now. That's not to say he's not a great stalwart. He deserves his successes and played a vital role in those victories but McManus was unreal, especially the second day.
I don't like labeling our players mentally weak either. Everyone hits their wall at some stage and going up against bigger counties with bigger talent pools the bar is naturally going to be higher. There's no shame in meeting your match. I wouldn't be too quick either to question their commitment. They sacrifice a hell of a lot. If there's better players in the county let them stand up.

I never said there were better players in the county. What I said was they are mentally weak and I stand by that. You can see it on the field too when they play Tyrone or Donegal, bet before the ball is thrown in. I could also say they lack belief. I feel sorry for players like Martin Reilly, never gave up, keeps coming back hoping to get across the line for glory and then in December you find out that 3 of your best players aren't going to commit. But you know Martin keeps going back because he loves the jersey. I suppose we can only hope they come back hungry for success.
They are beaten well by Donegal and Tyrone because they do not have the quality to get scores in a pressure cooker environment. Miss handy frees. Go 20 minutes without scoring and then find themselves 6/7 points down. Only so much pressure our defense can soak up before the dam finally bursts. They are not the ones who go missing in games but to top it all off they are the ones who have come in for some particularly unfair criticism on social media this year especially on that kip of a forum HS. I don't blame them if they feel they need a break. That kind of crap has got to effect lads and I wouldn't put it down as mental weakness. I'd imagine they're a lot tougher upstairs than a lot of the "fans" running them down.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on November 28, 2019, 04:50:08 PM
Quote from: Look-Up! on November 28, 2019, 02:14:59 PM
Quote from: Itchy on November 28, 2019, 09:03:37 AM
Quote from: Look-Up! on November 27, 2019, 11:25:26 PM
Quote from: Itchy on November 27, 2019, 10:54:09 PM
Quote from: Look-Up! on November 27, 2019, 10:17:31 PM
Quote from: Itchy on November 27, 2019, 07:38:43 PM
I'm sorry but this doesnt happen in counties that are serious about winning. There is a deficiency in our players, they dont want to do what is needed to succeed (which is their right).

I wonder what a dedicated stalworth like Martin Reilly thinks, hence few years left to win that Ulster and these boys pretty much have made sure that wont happen this year.

Winning Ulster? Realistically we are a marquee forward, a free taker and a total of about 5/6 positions short of being a team of real contenders for Ulster. Short of that we would need a massive slice of luck to land the Anglo Celt cup.
These 3 lads are a massive loss especially for the league which has been a happier hunting ground for us over the last few years but as far as championship goes, without more help, these lads are not winning an Ulster medal. Too many players go missing in the hard games. If they feel burned out then you have to respect that, hope they go away and find the gra again. It's not ideal granted and for a small county the loss will be more pronounced but plenty of top players walk away for a bit. Some with AI medals in their pockets. It's a huge commitment playing IC and the grass might look greener on the other side. But it's a very short career so hopefully they miss it badly when they're away and are chomping at the bit to come back.
In the meantime we have to get on with it and be positive. It's a chance for more players to step up to the mark when the chips are down. It's going to be physical and tough in the league next year and there are now less hiding places on the field. If the voids are filled then long term we could end up with a stronger team.

It's a vicious circle. When you start to think and believe like you say above then you will win  nothing. I've bo doubt our mentally weak players think exactly like that and that's why they leave like this. Dessue Moan retured today after 16 years I think with Monaghan. That's why monaghan win a few Ulster's and we win  nothing. Sickens me to say it
Eh. I was in Clones for both of Dessie's triumphs. Without Conor McManus I'd say he'd be retiring empty handed and may have done so long before now. That's not to say he's not a great stalwart. He deserves his successes and played a vital role in those victories but McManus was unreal, especially the second day.
I don't like labeling our players mentally weak either. Everyone hits their wall at some stage and going up against bigger counties with bigger talent pools the bar is naturally going to be higher. There's no shame in meeting your match. I wouldn't be too quick either to question their commitment. They sacrifice a hell of a lot. If there's better players in the county let them stand up.

I never said there were better players in the county. What I said was they are mentally weak and I stand by that. You can see it on the field too when they play Tyrone or Donegal, bet before the ball is thrown in. I could also say they lack belief. I feel sorry for players like Martin Reilly, never gave up, keeps coming back hoping to get across the line for glory and then in December you find out that 3 of your best players aren't going to commit. But you know Martin keeps going back because he loves the jersey. I suppose we can only hope they come back hungry for success.
They are beaten well by Donegal and Tyrone because they do not have the quality to get scores in a pressure cooker environment. Miss handy frees. Go 20 minutes without scoring and then find themselves 6/7 points down. Only so much pressure our defense can soak up before the dam finally bursts. They are not the ones who go missing in games but to top it all off they are the ones who have come in for some particularly unfair criticism on social media this year especially on that kip of a forum HS. I don't blame them if they feel they need a break. That kind of crap has got to effect lads and I wouldn't put it down as mental weakness. I'd imagine they're a lot tougher upstairs than a lot of the "fans" running them down.

I understand you being defensive of these players and 99/100 I am too. But it is clear the players in general are weak mentally and lack leadership. Why do lads miss easy frees when the pressure comes on for example. It is in the head as the same lads will knock them over with their eyes closes in a league match. When a team gets a run on Cavan and goes 6/7 points up who stands up and is counted on the Cavan team. Maybe Martin Reilly but he is only one and in fairness McVitty did too. Thats about it. Clarke getting himself sent off for stupid things is another sign of mental weakness, subconsciously looking for an out.

If I were Mickey Graham my first appointment this year would be a top class sports Psychologist.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Look-Up! on November 28, 2019, 07:46:03 PM
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I'm sorry but this doesnt happen in counties that are serious about winning. There is a deficiency in our players, they dont want to do what is needed to succeed (which is their right).

I wonder what a dedicated stalworth like Martin Reilly thinks, hence few years left to win that Ulster and these boys pretty much have made sure that wont happen this year.

Winning Ulster? Realistically we are a marquee forward, a free taker and a total of about 5/6 positions short of being a team of real contenders for Ulster. Short of that we would need a massive slice of luck to land the Anglo Celt cup.
These 3 lads are a massive loss especially for the league which has been a happier hunting ground for us over the last few years but as far as championship goes, without more help, these lads are not winning an Ulster medal. Too many players go missing in the hard games. If they feel burned out then you have to respect that, hope they go away and find the gra again. It's not ideal granted and for a small county the loss will be more pronounced but plenty of top players walk away for a bit. Some with AI medals in their pockets. It's a huge commitment playing IC and the grass might look greener on the other side. But it's a very short career so hopefully they miss it badly when they're away and are chomping at the bit to come back.
In the meantime we have to get on with it and be positive. It's a chance for more players to step up to the mark when the chips are down. It's going to be physical and tough in the league next year and there are now less hiding places on the field. If the voids are filled then long term we could end up with a stronger team.

It's a vicious circle. When you start to think and believe like you say above then you will win  nothing. I've bo doubt our mentally weak players think exactly like that and that's why they leave like this. Dessue Moan retured today after 16 years I think with Monaghan. That's why monaghan win a few Ulster's and we win  nothing. Sickens me to say it
Eh. I was in Clones for both of Dessie's triumphs. Without Conor McManus I'd say he'd be retiring empty handed and may have done so long before now. That's not to say he's not a great stalwart. He deserves his successes and played a vital role in those victories but McManus was unreal, especially the second day.
I don't like labeling our players mentally weak either. Everyone hits their wall at some stage and going up against bigger counties with bigger talent pools the bar is naturally going to be higher. There's no shame in meeting your match. I wouldn't be too quick either to question their commitment. They sacrifice a hell of a lot. If there's better players in the county let them stand up.

I never said there were better players in the county. What I said was they are mentally weak and I stand by that. You can see it on the field too when they play Tyrone or Donegal, bet before the ball is thrown in. I could also say they lack belief. I feel sorry for players like Martin Reilly, never gave up, keeps coming back hoping to get across the line for glory and then in December you find out that 3 of your best players aren't going to commit. But you know Martin keeps going back because he loves the jersey. I suppose we can only hope they come back hungry for success.
They are beaten well by Donegal and Tyrone because they do not have the quality to get scores in a pressure cooker environment. Miss handy frees. Go 20 minutes without scoring and then find themselves 6/7 points down. Only so much pressure our defense can soak up before the dam finally bursts. They are not the ones who go missing in games but to top it all off they are the ones who have come in for some particularly unfair criticism on social media this year especially on that kip of a forum HS. I don't blame them if they feel they need a break. That kind of crap has got to effect lads and I wouldn't put it down as mental weakness. I'd imagine they're a lot tougher upstairs than a lot of the "fans" running them down.

I understand you being defensive of these players and 99/100 I am too. But it is clear the players in general are weak mentally and lack leadership. Why do lads miss easy frees when the pressure comes on for example. It is in the head as the same lads will knock them over with their eyes closes in a league match. When a team gets a run on Cavan and goes 6/7 points up who stands up and is counted on the Cavan team. Maybe Martin Reilly but he is only one and in fairness McVitty did too. Thats about it. Clarke getting himself sent off for stupid things is another sign of mental weakness, subconsciously looking for an out.

If I were Mickey Graham my first appointment this year would be a top class sports Psychologist.
I just don't like the term mental weakness Itchy, as if there's something wrong with them. It's a quality issue, not mental. Top quality players have the attributes you allude to but most people don't have that complete package. There's a big difference in performing in front of 500 people, 1000 people or 25 plus thousand people. You either have it or you don't. You can get more comfortable in those environments the more you're exposed to them but the basics have to be there. Getting a shrink in to "fix" these lads will not improve that much.
Top quality professional teams around the world face the same problems. With all the resources available to them there's still really little in the end they can do. They just cast their net wider and get lads in who fit the bill, who have the temperament to do it on the big stages every time.
We don't operate like that. The lads who represent us are the lads we grew up with, our neighbours, cousins, friends etc They represent us! For good or bad, they put in huge sacrifices and leave all their limitations out there laid bare for all to see. I don't expect nor would I want them to be treated like Gods but a little bit of respect sometimes wouldn't be a bad thing and this year especially really pissed me off with the abuse some were getting.
Here's a thought. Forget about the sports psychologist for a moment or all the other bells and whistles. How about Cavan people going out there to see them and actually getting behind them and cheering them on. That might see some improvement.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on November 29, 2019, 04:43:21 PM
Branding lads mentally weak is harsh Itchy. It's been a good decade for Cavan and the dark days of losing to Division 4 sides are gone for the moment at least. If lads are training right and giving it their all in good faith, you can't ask for much more.  If these lads are mentally weak I don't know what you'd call some of the jokers that pulled on the jersey in the noughties.

There's still lots of talent there. Mickey needs to find the lads that are hungry and go hard for Division 2 again. Get a league title if we can at all, get something tangible and see if it sparks the team to bigger things.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on November 29, 2019, 08:27:50 PM
Look, I am not talking about mental health here. I am talking about leadership, fighting to the end, standing up in the face of adversity. Its nothing to do with skill or football ability, but its the stuff that makes great players. I don't know how anyone can look at Cavan and say that we have it. Eamonn McGee said it, scratch the surface and you can see that there isnt much there (full quote escapes me).

Listen to the wearecavan podcast, there is a real problem. Mattie was the issue we all thought yet here is Mickey Graham, a Cavan man, a man who worked a miracle with a club team from a half parish in Longford. Yet hes at training and has 18 turn up. I'm done making excuses for them lads. Sorry.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Cavan19 on November 30, 2019, 07:41:40 AM
Anyone playing county football these days wouldnt want to have a whole pile else going on in their life. Its ridiculous what's expected these days. I dont blame any lad for not committing. In counties like cavan the rewards are not there for these lads.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Look-Up! on November 30, 2019, 10:42:27 PM
Agree Cavan19. We're still in November and lads on the panel have been basically averaging 6 sessions a week for a month now. Picking out a number of the lowest attendance for that period is a bit disingenuous if it's going to be used to question commitment of players and allow a manager to get his excuses in early.
That's crazy demands on young lads. For all the talk about sports science, where the hell is the recovery factored in, both physical and mental? Professional teams would be scratching their heads at this. They take better care of lads because they are valuable assets and ruining them would be very counter productive. But alot of IC managers don't seem to give a crap about this. Crock them, send them back to their clubs and give another lad the call.
Fair enough a lot of work needs doing to get lads up to speed but lads on the go for 4-7 years have the core work done and if they feel they need an extended break and come back full tilt in the new year I don't see the problem. There should also be some duty of care to the new additions. Very frustrating for clubs when they get good young lads back from county who don't make the cut because they are carrying joint injuries and cannot shake them for the club season.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on December 01, 2019, 12:47:25 PM
Is it some players are brought in too soon, and when they should be in their peak between 26 - 29,they are burned out.
Clarke was brought it the year after he was Minor.

A player could player County football until 33 or 34 if looked after themselves. Faulkner I think was 21  when  played Senior, so probaly a better age..
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on December 01, 2019, 01:03:27 PM
There are two things being discussed here as I see it. 1) The general pressures on training for a senior county team and 2) Cavan's loss of players which I believe are worse than in other comparable counties. I think in all the comments you can see posters mixing both up.

On No 1 I dont think there is much disagreement, something needs to be done. The GAA tried bans on county training but that has been abused/ignored.

On No 2 I believe every year we are starting from scratch with a new panel. As a result we will win nothing. If fellas arent going to give it everything we havent a hope. Listen to the wearecavan podcast last week and it was interesting, reading between the lines it seems to me Mickey is doing a reset. He wasnt happy with the commitment last year, he wasnt happy with "party buses". Maybe he is upping the Anti to see who wants to be a Cavan player and who wants to piss around and collect all the gear.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Look-Up! on December 01, 2019, 04:45:30 PM
There's more than the players collecting gear and there for the perks. Alot of people there getting paid by the training session and a nice little sideline it is too.
I'd love to see the sports science behind it if there was no money involved. I'd say we'd see a big U turn in "science" and all of a sudden less being more.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Look-Up! on December 14, 2019, 07:31:37 PM
Cavan a good bet for relegation this year if management don't wind the horns in a bit.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: marty34 on December 14, 2019, 09:01:58 PM
Quote from: Look-Up! on December 14, 2019, 07:31:37 PM
Cavan a good bet for relegation this year if management don't wind the horns in a bit.

Why, what's happened?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Look-Up! on December 15, 2019, 07:15:10 AM
Quote from: marty34 on December 14, 2019, 09:01:58 PM
Quote from: Look-Up! on December 14, 2019, 07:31:37 PM
Cavan a good bet for relegation this year if management don't wind the horns in a bit.

Why, what's happened?
Ridiculous demands on players. Couple more have walked and not fringe players. We'll see what the starting team is like come start of League and if they can coax some back but how they're operating at the moment I would be telling any young lad to stay well clear of that setup.
There has to be a little bit of respect and acceptance that there's a life outside football and there should be a bit of enjoyment in playing the game. No good either being treated like a dog this time of year to ultimately break down next year just before the football starts and miss your club season through injury. It's going to happen to quite a few.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: redzone on December 15, 2019, 09:12:54 AM
There was a good interview with luke Kearney from donegal were he has to learn to walk again after all his operations from over training. Off the ball it was with
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: redzone on December 15, 2019, 09:17:52 AM
https://www.offtheball.com/football/luke-keaney-retirement-936551
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Look-Up! on December 15, 2019, 10:08:03 AM
Quote from: redzone on December 15, 2019, 09:17:52 AM
https://www.offtheball.com/football/luke-keaney-retirement-936551
Thanks for the link Redzone. That's grim reading but unfortunately it's a thing. Our club have got young lads back from county in bits and have really struggled in the club championship to get any sort of clear run. Other clubs the same.
It crept into GAA with outside managers there to just absolutely flog players for a couple of years to boost their CV short term with no regards to the long term health of club/county panel. Unfortunately now it seems to be accepted practice and MO of most county setups.
Money you could argue is a big driving force. Alot of people getting paid by the session and refuse to budge on number of sessions cause they're milking it. Absolutely no regards for the long term health of our youth. The human body can take a lot but it needs conditioning long term. Dumping these type of workloads on 20 year olds first time out is going to end very badly for the majority.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on December 15, 2019, 12:25:32 PM
Quote from: Look-Up! on December 15, 2019, 10:08:03 AM
Quote from: redzone on December 15, 2019, 09:17:52 AM
https://www.offtheball.com/football/luke-keaney-retirement-936551
Thanks for the link Redzone. That's grim reading but unfortunately it's a thing. Our club have got young lads back from county in bits and have really struggled in the club championship to get any sort of clear run. Other clubs the same.
It crept into GAA with outside managers there to just absolutely flog players for a couple of years to boost their CV short term with no regards to the long term health of club/county panel. Unfortunately now it seems to be accepted practice and MO of most county setups.
Money you could argue is a big driving force. Alot of people getting paid by the session and refuse to budge on number of sessions cause they're milking it. Absolutely no regards for the long term health of our youth. The human body can take a lot but it needs conditioning long term. Dumping these type of workloads on 20 year olds first time out is going to end very badly for the majority.

The manager has a part to play but I think the GAA top brass have a bigger part to play. Strict rules need to be put down regarding playing with multiple teams whether it be college teams, schools teams and county underage teams.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Look-Up! on December 15, 2019, 01:44:52 PM
Quote from: Itchy on December 15, 2019, 12:25:32 PM
Quote from: Look-Up! on December 15, 2019, 10:08:03 AM
Quote from: redzone on December 15, 2019, 09:17:52 AM
https://www.offtheball.com/football/luke-keaney-retirement-936551
Thanks for the link Redzone. That's grim reading but unfortunately it's a thing. Our club have got young lads back from county in bits and have really struggled in the club championship to get any sort of clear run. Other clubs the same.
It crept into GAA with outside managers there to just absolutely flog players for a couple of years to boost their CV short term with no regards to the long term health of club/county panel. Unfortunately now it seems to be accepted practice and MO of most county setups.
Money you could argue is a big driving force. Alot of people getting paid by the session and refuse to budge on number of sessions cause they're milking it. Absolutely no regards for the long term health of our youth. The human body can take a lot but it needs conditioning long term. Dumping these type of workloads on 20 year olds first time out is going to end very badly for the majority.

The manager has a part to play but I think the GAA top brass have a bigger part to play. Strict rules need to be put down regarding playing with multiple teams whether it be college teams, schools teams and county underage teams.
Don't see how you can give the managers a pass. It's all down to management refusing to see anything beyond their immediate needs.
All this talk of strength and conditioning too and high player turnover. It's no coincidence players with 4/5 years under the belt look the best conditioned but if you don't look after players properly how can you expect to retain players and see long term goals achieved.
Why flog young lads just in the door for 2/3 months of the off season when you have absolutely no intention of keeping then on long term? Dump them in the new year with absolutely no follow through or feedback on what kind of development they need. No support given with regards to joint and stress injuries. Let the club's deal with it. Then invite them back again end of year to repeat the cycle. If they were serious about long term development of these lads over a 4/5 year term a more reasonable training regime would be implemented with player welfare and injury prevention high on the list of priorities. What's happening at the moment is absolutely nuts.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on December 15, 2019, 04:50:04 PM
I didnt give the manager a pass, I said they have a part to play.

If you read the article from the interview posted, its clear he was on too many teams and was therefore not able to get recovery. If you are managing an inter county team you have to have access to your players. In my opinion players need to pick one team or the other and not try to keep 5 balls in the air, 7 days a week. Its the multiple teams at same time of year that does the damage.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Look-Up! on December 15, 2019, 05:24:39 PM
Quote from: Itchy on December 15, 2019, 04:50:04 PM
I didnt give the manager a pass, I said they have a part to play.

If you read the article from the interview posted, its clear he was on too many teams and was therefore not able to get recovery. If you are managing an inter county team you have to have access to your players. In my opinion players need to pick one team or the other and not try to keep 5 balls in the air, 7 days a week. Its the multiple teams at same time of year that does the damage.
Managers have thee part to play. I fail to see how managing players individual training schedules, because that's what it is, should be under the remit of GAA top brass.
And how much access does an IC manager need to his players. Because at the moment is practically 24/7. Perhaps if there wasn't such an in your face attitude with IC managers then playing with different teams wouldn't bring up such conflicts. Education is important too for what are amateur players so if they get sports scholarships how the hell can they not honour playing commitments? The playing season ends early enough anyway. Stopping lads playing with clubs when they have zero intention of having them in the 26 is more BS.
There are a hell of a lot of leeways IC managers could give but they refuse to budge. Players have all their own individual GPS trackers anyway so keeping score of their workload is not an issue. But they ignore the science out of pure bullishness and just squeeze in extra sessions because "that's the why".
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on December 17, 2019, 08:55:01 AM
Interesting from survey in todays times...

"Just over half of GAA players (51 per cent) believe that their life is better because of their status as an intercounty player and involvement in the game.

A further 19 per cent indicated that their life was a lot better because of playing senior intercounty. Some 27 per cent indicated that playing intercounty had no impact on their life, positive or negative, while 3 per cent believed that being involved had made their life worse."

So if you believe that, 97% of players (51% + 19% + 27%) believe being an intercounty player has at worst had no impact on their life. Seems very high to me.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Look-Up! on January 23, 2020, 01:59:03 PM
There's very much an unknown factor about our chances this year. We've named a small panel and even at that there's a lot of names in there that are treading new ground. Hopefully they pleasantly surprise us but scores could be very hard to come by.
I only see potential in there, no go to names up front that some of the other teams have. I think we'll be relying on a lot of team scores. It's a big ask to expect lads to hit the ground running in this department. Physically we'll struggle I'd imagine and will probably need a bit of time to adjust. How long is anyone's guess.
Management will be under scrutiny too. They've made a lot of big noises this winter and ruffled a few feathers. It will be interesting to see how the panel react to their voice during the campaign when adversity hits. And it will hit. Do they have the players' ears or are they viewed as a bunch of bullshitters? They've gambled on upping the ante in terms of commitment. Grand some might say but my huge worry would be is that sustainable long term or are we just turning away better quality footballers and cutting our nose off? 
I think the nature of the performances more so than results is very important this year because we're up against it big time. Dropping a level is a possibility but there's a big difference in dropping while still swinging and dropping without a whimper. At the other end I'd love to see us go and chase promotion but I'm struggling to imagine it.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on January 23, 2020, 03:19:09 PM
33 is probaly enough for a panel. Cavan had a large panel last year, they were carrying a lot of players who played no football all year, bar in the Mckenna Cup. The same players played very little League football with their clubs. No benefit just being on a County panel if not getting games. A good few panelists from last year weren't asked backed. It's also costly to have large panel. They might get a year of County training but they would become frustrated after a while.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Look-Up! on January 23, 2020, 03:39:02 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on January 23, 2020, 03:19:09 PM
33 is probaly enough for a panel. Cavan had a large panel last year, they were carrying a lot of players who played no football all year, bar in the Mckenna Cup. The same players played very little League football with their clubs. No benefit just being on a County panel if not getting games. A good few panelists from last year weren't asked backed. It's also costly to have large panel. They might get a year of County training but they would become frustrated after a while.
Probably enough. 7 players not to make match day panel. Drop in a few injuries, opt outs or lads simply not at the required level and bench options could be limited. Hopefully some new names step up.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on January 23, 2020, 03:54:23 PM
They'll probaly call in a few if performing well with the Club. Maybe some of the U20 Squad will be added if they perform well in the championship.

Beyond the starting 15, there is lots of inexperience.  The likes of Mackey was a sub to bring on last year.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Look-Up! on January 24, 2020, 11:16:34 AM
                     Raymond Galligan
Paddy Meade    Padraig Faulkner    Luke Fortune
Ciaran Brady     Benjamin Kelly      Oisin Kiernan
               Killian Brady  Evan Fortune
Stephen Smith   Simon Cadden      Niall Murray
Martin Reilly   Gearoid McKiernan   Conor Madden

Subs: Liam Brady, Gerard Smith, Paul Gilcreest, Chris Conroy, Bryan Magee, Oisin Pierson, Conor Smith, Evan Doughty, James Smith, Liam Buchanan, Ryan Connolly.

Unnamed: Conor Brady, Thomas Galligan, Paul Graham, Jason McLoughlin, Kian Monahan, Stephen Murray, Cormac O'Reilly.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Look-Up! on January 24, 2020, 11:35:36 AM
So team named. A lot of low mileage sprinkled every throughout. You'd be hoping the two debutantes in defense come good. If so it's a big positive.
Good to see McKiernan there and as much as we'd like to see him upfront I think he'll be dragged back to midfield. That looks like it could be a problem area for us.
Forwards in general look like good honest footballers but don't know where the scores will come from. I assume McKiernan will be on free taking duty. We'll need big performances from Madden and some consistency this year to be any chance of a threat in this division.
The bench looks like carrying a bigger scoring threat however inexperienced. Maybe we'll see changes before throw in.
A little surprised at some of the unnamed. Maybe Sigerson or injury a factor.

Just an observation. Only three players I can make out in the entire panel from County finalists.

Anyway good luck to all in Armagh. Hopefully we get off to a good start.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Look-Up! on January 27, 2020, 12:53:40 AM
Very disappointing and worrying start to league. A struggle was expected but would have hoped we would have been more competitive.
We'll need to drastically improve on our discipline next time out. Tough introduction for the new lads but we need to move on and have some of the new players step up quick. No point pressing panic button yet but management need to sort this fast. Last few games are far from winnable at the best of times so our best chances of points are over the next few games.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on January 30, 2020, 03:20:23 PM
Read on a different forum that Dermot McCabe has left the management set up. Anyone able to confirm that? Heard some chat that he wasnt getting on with a lot of lads too.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on January 30, 2020, 04:49:28 PM
Bull in a China Shop.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on January 30, 2020, 06:31:31 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on January 30, 2020, 04:49:28 PM
Bull in a China Shop.

A great player does not always a great manager make. Well if he has left hopefully that will help the lads in there some how
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Look-Up! on February 02, 2020, 03:31:34 PM
Well done to the team last night. Fantastic fight back. Great to see some new faces standing up and grabbing a game by the neck. Hopefully the start of things. Great to see a bit of drive in the middle of the field also.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on February 02, 2020, 03:42:43 PM
Quote from: Itchy on January 30, 2020, 06:31:31 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on January 30, 2020, 04:49:28 PM
Bull in a China Shop.

A great player does not always a great manager make. Well if he has left hopefully that will help the lads in there some how

Great 2nd half last night, fair play to Thomas Galligan and Holla especially.  Rumours of Dermos demise greatly exaggerated judging by the fact he was on the field longer than some of the players
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on February 02, 2020, 07:15:04 PM
Missed last night, raging. Anyone post a decent report? What was so bad about our first half? Is discipline as bad as it seems? Who drove on the comeback?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on February 02, 2020, 08:32:21 PM
What was so bad about 1st half. Well Westmeath got 15 behind the ball, we just kept walking up to  them, no pace and eventually giving it back to them when under very little pressure. Some of the execution of basic skills was atrocious, hopping the ball, short handpasses, solos and kick passes were all going astray and westmeath were getting scores. A pivotal thing was westmeath having a two on 1 for a goal, the ball was flipped over the last defender and the westmeath forward tried to palm it in but Ray made an unreal save, the rebound fell on the ground and Ray dived full length and had his two hands on the ball, almost on the line. Westmeath forward kicked it in but was given as a foul as Rays hands were on it. I reckon that wouldve put them 8 ahead.

In 2nd half Benjamin Kelly and Stephen Smith who were both poor (although they were no where near alone in that) and Thomas Galligan and Stephen Murray went on. The Dynamic changed instantly as the two boys just drove at westmeath. It was 14 v 14 at this stage and within maybe 8 minutes we were level with some really good scores. Then their black card came back on and they introduced a flyer of a sub (loughlin I think) and withing about 5/6 minutes they had 1-2 scored. But we kept at it, Holla was brilliant the whole match, think he got 4 from play. By the time we were level they had Heslin sent off, there was 6 mins of injury time and we were all over their kick out. The goal was odd.Conroy was coming in from an angle, everyone was shouting to fist it over but instead he shimmied past the last defender and nearly ran over the end line, he fisted it low across the box and it looked like it hit the keeper and went in. We played 4 mins more of keep ball and that was that.

Holla, Thomas Galligan, Stephen Murray and Faulkner in 2nd half were the drivers to a win. Worryingly Gearoid was piss poor for the whole match, ballsed up at least 3 easy points - Something is up with him. Martin Reilly wasnt really effective either, Gerry Smith in 2nd gear. Still lots of improvement possible. Has to be a great moral boost for the young lads though.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on February 02, 2020, 09:00:10 PM
Thanks Itchy. Thomas Galligan seems to make a habit of making an impact as a sub, did the same against Clare and Tipp before as I recall. Looking forward to next weekend now. There's been too many poor performances to expect that to be a turning of the tide but, who knows.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on February 03, 2020, 01:19:17 PM
Quote from: Westside on February 02, 2020, 09:00:10 PM
Thanks Itchy. Thomas Galligan seems to make a habit of making an impact as a sub, did the same against Clare and Tipp before as I recall. Looking forward to next weekend now. There's been too many poor performances to expect that to be a turning of the tide but, who knows.

Closest game I can remember that was similar was that famous game in Navan under Terry. We were 8 down I think at half time and hopeless and we came out and bet Meath off the field. That time we had most of our top players of course
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Look-Up! on February 03, 2020, 03:44:02 PM
We reaped dividends that day too when we went direct. Much stronger panel though with a better balance to it. I think it is a bigger ask of this panel to kick on from the result like that team. But we live in hope.
Laois next weekend away, then home to Down for the U20s the week after and away to Fermanagh after that. That's a few tough ones for the seniors.
Any idea what Down are like. Can't imagine they're too bad. Hopefully we show well in this.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Look-Up! on February 03, 2020, 07:10:06 PM
Tyrone           9/4
Donegal         7/2
Armagh         6/1
Monaghan      6/1
Down             7/1
Derry           15/2
Cavan            8/1
Antrim         20/1
Fermanagh  50/1

Had a quick look on PP. That's the odds on U20 for Ulster. They don't have much between us and Down. Winner to play Donegal/Monaghan.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on February 03, 2020, 07:40:37 PM
Oisin Gallen will be a loss for Donegal U20s, out for a few months. He impressed with their Seniors last year..
Tyrone have a few from last year still eligible, like Darragh Canavan. Quality player.

Cavan U20s form in the pre season competition was erratic,so hard to know what they'll be like.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on February 05, 2020, 10:58:12 PM
Big blow, Niall Murray out for the rest of the league and probably the whole year. Devastating.

Elsewhere Mackey transferring from castlerahan to mullinalaghta.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Cavan19 on February 06, 2020, 09:28:22 PM
Quote from: Itchy on February 05, 2020, 10:58:12 PM
Big blow, Niall Murray out for the rest of the league and probably the whole year. Devastating.

Elsewhere Mackey transferring from castlerahan to mullinalaghta.

A loss but hardly devastating.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on February 07, 2020, 10:19:47 AM
Quote from: Cavan19 on February 06, 2020, 09:28:22 PM
Quote from: Itchy on February 05, 2020, 10:58:12 PM
Big blow, Niall Murray out for the rest of the league and probably the whole year. Devastating.

Elsewhere Mackey transferring from castlerahan to mullinalaghta.

A loss but hardly devastating.

Our main freetaker who had finally eased our freetaking woes, one of the most experienced players on the panel reaching his peak, in the context of the number of lads who had already left I would agree it's a devastating blow for the team and Niall himself.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Cavan19 on February 07, 2020, 10:26:02 AM
Quote from: Westside on February 07, 2020, 10:19:47 AM
Quote from: Cavan19 on February 06, 2020, 09:28:22 PM
Quote from: Itchy on February 05, 2020, 10:58:12 PM
Big blow, Niall Murray out for the rest of the league and probably the whole year. Devastating.

Elsewhere Mackey transferring from castlerahan to mullinalaghta.

A loss but hardly devastating.


Our main freetaker who had finally eased our freetaking woes, one of the most experienced players on the panel reaching his peak, in the context of the number of lads who had already left I would agree it's a devastating blow for the team and Niall himself.

Nobody has died and i doubt many will be losing sleep over it.

Its a blow to the team he was one of the best players last year but they are going to have to move on.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on February 07, 2020, 11:47:11 AM
Quote from: Cavan19 on February 07, 2020, 10:26:02 AM
Quote from: Westside on February 07, 2020, 10:19:47 AM
Quote from: Cavan19 on February 06, 2020, 09:28:22 PM
Quote from: Itchy on February 05, 2020, 10:58:12 PM
Big blow, Niall Murray out for the rest of the league and probably the whole year. Devastating.

Elsewhere Mackey transferring from castlerahan to mullinalaghta.

A loss but hardly devastating.


Our main freetaker who had finally eased our freetaking woes, one of the most experienced players on the panel reaching his peak, in the context of the number of lads who had already left I would agree it's a devastating blow for the team and Niall himself.

Nobody has died and i doubt many will be losing sleep over it.

Its a blow to the team he was one of the best players last year but they are going to have to move on.

Cavan19 - I used the term devastating in terms of football and our hopes as a football team for 2020. I did not use the term in the context of a death in the family. Hope that clarifies things for you.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Cavan19 on February 07, 2020, 12:04:27 PM
Quote from: Itchy on February 07, 2020, 11:47:11 AM
Quote from: Cavan19 on February 07, 2020, 10:26:02 AM
Quote from: Westside on February 07, 2020, 10:19:47 AM
Quote from: Cavan19 on February 06, 2020, 09:28:22 PM
Quote from: Itchy on February 05, 2020, 10:58:12 PM
Big blow, Niall Murray out for the rest of the league and probably the whole year. Devastating.

Elsewhere Mackey transferring from castlerahan to mullinalaghta.

A loss but hardly devastating.


Our main freetaker who had finally eased our freetaking woes, one of the most experienced players on the panel reaching his peak, in the context of the number of lads who had already left I would agree it's a devastating blow for the team and Niall himself.

Nobody has died and i doubt many will be losing sleep over it.

Its a blow to the team he was one of the best players last year but they are going to have to move on.

Cavan19 - I used the term devastating in terms of football and our hopes as a football team for 2020. I did not use the term in the context of a death in the family. Hope that clarifies things for you.

Point taken
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Look-Up! on February 07, 2020, 02:42:43 PM
Every injury now to players with experience will be magnified I'm afraid. We can't really afford anymore with the bare squad. Hoping for some big performances again this weekend but inclined to temper expectations as inconsistency tends to be the name of the game in this division at the best of times.   
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on February 07, 2020, 03:49:04 PM
We 'kicked into gear' at half time during the Meath game 4 years ago but that was the strongest squad we've had in the last decade. Comparisons don't make sense.

The amount of games where we have played well for a full game under Graham is very minimal. Drifting out of games before making spirited comebacks, firing ahead and then letting the other team back into it. Or just entire games of out and out drudgery.

I think the current optimism is wholly unwarranted. That said, i'm looking forward to Sunday.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on February 07, 2020, 04:18:48 PM
Quote from: Westside on February 07, 2020, 03:49:04 PM
We 'kicked into gear' at half time during the Meath game 4 years ago but that was the strongest squad we've had in the last decade. Comparisons don't make sense.

The amount of games where we have played well for a full game under Graham is very minimal. Drifting out of games before making spirited comebacks, firing ahead and then letting the other team back into it. Or just entire games of out and out drudgery.

I think the current optimism is wholly unwarranted. That said, i'm looking forward to Sunday.

You could be right but I would just also point out that it is Laois we are playing, up from Div3 and missing some their best players. The last day we won with a man down and in truth some of our main men didnt play at all - Gearoid and Martin Reilly especially, Gerry Smith intermittently. I am not uber confident but I still think we could have enough to get the job done and that bit of confidence we got last week could be the difference.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Look-Up! on February 07, 2020, 05:04:38 PM
We'll see what the starting team and bench options are like but could be down well as there's a few touch and go apparently.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Look-Up! on February 09, 2020, 11:36:39 AM
Wonder when they'll reschedule the match. At least the break might help clear up a few injuries.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Cavan19 on February 09, 2020, 04:04:19 PM
Next Sunday more than likely
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on February 10, 2020, 11:01:38 PM
1pm Sunday next. Hopefully a few injuries may have eased. Div 2 is looking like a real tough slog, a team on 6 pts has been relegated before and with our score difference after Armagh we need to be aiming for 7 pts. That means Laois is one we really need to be going after.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on February 16, 2020, 05:53:13 PM
Brilliant result today, unfortunately I couldnt go and was relying on Northern Sound. Seemed like things went our way at critical times of the match, a lucky goal and a black card for Laois in 1st half injury time, a missed penalty which could have ensured a grandstand finish if it had gone in. However winning in dirty conditions like that on the road is real character building stuff and 3-10 is a great score on such a day. If we can go and beat Fermanagh then no reason we couldnt start looking up the table instead of behind us.

Delighted to see Pearson and Gerry Smith knocking over a few scores too, again if they get their confidence up it could be a great help. Sounded like Thomas Galligan did well again and Martin Reilly improved greatly from last week.

Well done to them, the pressure was really on after the Armagh result and the boys have answered  their critics well.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on February 16, 2020, 07:25:00 PM
Quote from: Itchy on February 16, 2020, 05:53:13 PM
Brilliant result today, unfortunately I couldnt go and was relying on Northern Sound. Seemed like things went our way at critical times of the match, a lucky goal and a black card for Laois in 1st half injury time, a missed penalty which could have ensured a grandstand finish if it had gone in. However winning in dirty conditions like that on the road is real character building stuff and 3-10 is a great score on such a day. If we can go and beat Fermanagh then no reason we couldnt start looking up the table instead of behind us.

Delighted to see Pearson and Gerry Smith knocking over a few scores too, again if they get their confidence up it could be a great help. Sounded like Thomas Galligan did well again and Martin Reilly improved greatly from last week.

Well done to them, the pressure was really on after the Armagh result and the boys have answered  their critics well.

If anyone says Doughty was going for goal they're delusional  ;D Came at a brilliant time for us though, looked like we had spurned the wind advantage and that would have settled the nerves. We had spurned 3 good goal scoring opportunities in the first half, Gerry Smith went himself when he should have laid it off, James Smith caught a fumbled ball by the keeper and didn't make the most of it and Thomas Galligan missed Gearoid off his shoulder and he was through 1 on 1.

You're exactly right at things going right for us at critical times, I was expecting Laois to come out all guns blazing and instead we put a nice move together and Stephen Murray palmed to the net. After that we never looked in trouble and mopped up nearly everything Laois threw at us. Ably assisted by some terrible shot selection and decision making by Laois.

The players worked exceptionally hard which was one of the most pleasing parts of the performance. Still plenty of things to work on and I'd say we will have our work cut out for us next weekend in Brewster.
Interested to see James Smith develop as an inside forward. There's potential there but still very raw.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on February 17, 2020, 11:49:36 AM
Great win and good use of the bench.  Good discipline on the field.  Didn't seem we were missing players.  Galligan seemed unplayable and Pierson seemed to be everywhere.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on February 17, 2020, 01:11:33 PM
 We benefitted yesterday from a referee who let a lot go. Still think our tackling discipline needs to improve. Pierson on 3 occasions wrapped up an opposition player in a bear hug to the disgust/laughter of the crowd. He wont get away with that every day.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Look-Up! on February 18, 2020, 01:03:20 PM
Congratulations to team on massive result Sunday. Great to see new faces stepping up to the plate again and coupled with some big shifts from a few of the older lads. Considering the conditions, it away from home and an unseasoned team it bodes well. We're coping well physically anyway.
3 points more should see us safe barring a crazy set of results (which you wouldn't rule out in this Division). 2 home games and 2 away games so it's doable. Fermanagh next up will be extremely tough and physical especially in Brewster. If we can take something from this game we should be safe with 3 games to ensure it. If we get a win, with 2 home games left and away to Kildare, we could even start dreaming of a day out in Croker.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on February 23, 2020, 11:10:40 AM
Super result last night in very tough conditions. Pitch looked ok but it clearly wasnt as ball was not bouncing on parts of the pitch. We withstood a lot of pressure near the end and I suppose were a little fortunate with the goals in that they defended them very poorly. 6 day turn around from the last game also on a very heavy pitch would also have been a factor but fitness held up fairly well.

I was very impressed with Holla and Oisin Kiernan, frequently taking on the defensive line and breaking through. I thought Faulkner was pretty solid and Martin Reilly with the old head doing sensible things in shitty conditions. Galligan and Conroy tried hard but were up against two top midfielders, I suppose they broke even overall maybe. Tough day for the forwards, Oisin Pierson got one beauty and another from a mark but it was great to see Gearoid back scoring freely kicking 4 excellent points from play and another from a mark. We deserved the points, just about.

Fair play to these lads who have stuck at it and are clearly a united team, wins in conditions like this and last week are character building. No reason we cant beat Clare and give an under performing Kildare team a rattle too.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Look-Up! on February 23, 2020, 05:53:31 PM
Congratulations all again on another gutsy win. Rode our luck a bit but 2 points is all that matters.
Table now has a very different look about it. Form in this division means absolutely nothing but going into the last few games we have a great shot at promotion with two of the bottom teams still to play. Hopefully the weather picks up a bit and we get some better surfaces to play on and we get more improvement from this team.
We've been a bit of a write off in peoples' minds before this but with Clare up next at home and the wins under our belt, I'm sure the band wagon will have a few more passengers the next day. Important we are up for it because there's no doubt Clare will be fighting for their life and we cannot take anything for granted. A win the next day sets us up very nicely for the run in.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on February 23, 2020, 06:22:53 PM
Quote from: Look-Up! on February 23, 2020, 05:53:31 PM
Congratulations all again on another gutsy win. Rode our luck a bit but 2 points is all that matters.
Table now has a very different look about it. Form in this division means absolutely nothing but going into the last few games we have a great shot at promotion with two of the bottom teams still to play. Hopefully the weather picks up a bit and we get some better surfaces to play on and we get more improvement from this team.
We've been a bit of a write off in peoples' minds before this but with Clare up next at home and the wins under our belt, I'm sure the band wagon will have a few more passengers the next day. Important we are up for it because there's no doubt Clare will be fighting for their life and we cannot take anything for granted. A win the next day sets us up very nicely for the run in.

Clare are tough nuts and probably have better forwards than Fermanagh in Sexton and Tubridy. We cant take anything for granted and need to bring same intensity to it as in our last two games. Still great to be talking about promotion pushes and not the lads who wouldnt commit and relegation.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Look-Up! on February 23, 2020, 06:45:31 PM
Yep Clare will be extremely tough. But we're finding our feet well and hopefully with injuries maybe clearing up a bit and more experienced lads getting more time under the belts we can improve further.
If we manage a win next week and pick up no knocks we should be in great shape after the 2 week break to push on. 
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on February 23, 2020, 09:01:09 PM
I think at this stage Doughty probably needs to make way for someone else, he didn't show well against Laois and then a silly black card last night. Time for someone else to be given a chance. Pierson is doing well but I just don't think he's athletic enough to be a nailed down starter long term. I'd like to see Ryan Connolly and Liam Buchanan given more game time.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on March 01, 2020, 05:38:07 PM
Quote from: Westside on February 23, 2020, 09:01:09 PM
I think at this stage Doughty probably needs to make way for someone else, he didn't show well against Laois and then a silly black card last night. Time for someone else to be given a chance. Pierson is doing well but I just don't think he's athletic enough to be a nailed down starter long term. I'd like to see Ryan Connolly and Liam Buchanan given more game time.

In fairness Pierson is a finisher, and that's why he is there. No point being an athlete if can't kick the ball over the bar. Pierson is the best scoring forward Cavan have currently.

David Turbridy of Clare isn't an athlete either, but an effective forward as he showed again today,
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on March 09, 2020, 11:14:35 AM
Whats the chances of a result in Newbridge. We would be right in the mix at the top again if we could pull it off but we will be in serious bother at the other end if we lose. I am hoping for a rebound from that horrible loss the last day but that shitty pokey ground is a place I dont think will suit us. Bookies have us outsiders at 13/8.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on March 09, 2020, 10:37:38 PM
From the highlights of Kildare v Roscommon, Kildare look impressive enough despite the loss. Strong and powerful and can score from distance. Roscommon generally match up well to big physical sides and we definitely tend to struggle on that front. I think they will beat us with a bit to spare unfortunately. Unless we can pull out a huge performance but our naivety and the amount of terrible individual performances versus Clare would make me think that's unlikely. 
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on June 16, 2020, 09:08:29 AM
I wonder will any of our departed players make themselves available again given that they probably have been doing feck all in the last couple of months - McVitty, Moynagh, Clarke for example.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mrdeeds on June 16, 2020, 01:39:13 PM
Quote from: Itchy on June 16, 2020, 09:08:29 AM
I wonder will any of our departed players make themselves available again given that they probably have been doing feck all in the last couple of months - McVitty, Moynagh, Clarke for example.

Mcveety and Moynagh still travelling.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on July 01, 2020, 08:27:01 PM
Clarke has.. wintered well.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on July 01, 2020, 08:59:24 PM
Quote from: Westside on July 01, 2020, 08:27:01 PM
Clarke has.. wintered well.

Any chance of a return from him? Bad sign if an athlete like him isn't looking after himself, football or not.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on July 01, 2020, 09:32:13 PM
Caoimhin Reilly should be available, he took the year out as he was doing his final year in college and going to ny for summer. That would be off now.  Maybe Rehill might return

Clarke might not have the hunger to play County again. He gave enough interviews about the demands .
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on August 04, 2020, 04:19:56 PM
Anyone watching the streams? Good service, well at least it was for me.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mrdeeds on August 06, 2020, 10:47:30 AM
Killian Clarke looks to be enjoying life away from county football.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Cavan19 on August 06, 2020, 11:08:11 AM
Quote from: mrdeeds on August 06, 2020, 10:47:30 AM
Killian Clarke looks to be enjoying life away from county football.

Good best of luck to him.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mrdeeds on August 10, 2020, 11:02:15 AM
The Gaels and Kingscourt look like the teams to beat.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: marty34 on August 10, 2020, 11:36:56 AM
Quote from: mrdeeds on August 10, 2020, 11:02:15 AM
The Gaels and Kingscourt look like the teams to beat.

Do the Gaels not,'buy' their way to the title?
Saw a bit on podcast about Mc Kiernan moving to Cavan Gaels?  How does the Cavan board allow that?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mrdeeds on August 10, 2020, 12:31:58 PM
Quote from: marty34 on August 10, 2020, 11:36:56 AM
Quote from: mrdeeds on August 10, 2020, 11:02:15 AM
The Gaels and Kingscourt look like the teams to beat.

Do the Gaels not,'buy' their way to the title?
Saw a bit on podcast about Mc Kiernan moving to Cavan Gaels?  How does the Cavan board allow that?

He's living in the Cavan town parish so can join them. He's actually living in Butlersbridge but they are an intermediate club. His own club got relegated and he was sent off in one game and substituted in relegation play off.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: marty34 on August 10, 2020, 12:53:06 PM
Quote from: mrdeeds on August 10, 2020, 12:31:58 PM
Quote from: marty34 on August 10, 2020, 11:36:56 AM
Quote from: mrdeeds on August 10, 2020, 11:02:15 AM
The Gaels and Kingscourt look like the teams to beat.

Do the Gaels not,'buy' their way to the title?
Saw a bit on podcast about Mc Kiernan moving to Cavan Gaels?  How does the Cavan board allow that?

He's living in the Cavan town parish so can join them. He's actually living in Butlersbridge but they are an intermediate club. His own club got relegated and he was sent off in one game and substituted in relegation play off.

Sure is his own club not only half an hour down the road?

How is that allowed in Cavan with nobody questioning it?

Different if he was living in Dublin and transferred to a Dublin club - wouldn't be an issue.  In any other county, it wouldn't be sanctioned.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on August 10, 2020, 01:00:05 PM
Quote from: mrdeeds on August 10, 2020, 12:31:58 PM
Quote from: marty34 on August 10, 2020, 11:36:56 AM
Quote from: mrdeeds on August 10, 2020, 11:02:15 AM
The Gaels and Kingscourt look like the teams to beat.

Do the Gaels not,'buy' their way to the title?
Saw a bit on podcast about Mc Kiernan moving to Cavan Gaels?  How does the Cavan board allow that?

He's living in the Cavan town parish so can join them. He's actually living in Butlersbridge but they are an intermediate club. His own club got relegated and he was sent off in one game and substituted in relegation play off.

The  bit in bold is irrelevant surely? The whole team boundary around Cavan town seems a bit of a joke anyway
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: five points on August 10, 2020, 01:02:37 PM
Quote from: marty34 on August 10, 2020, 12:53:06 PM
Quote from: mrdeeds on August 10, 2020, 12:31:58 PM
Quote from: marty34 on August 10, 2020, 11:36:56 AM
Quote from: mrdeeds on August 10, 2020, 11:02:15 AM
The Gaels and Kingscourt look like the teams to beat.

Do the Gaels not,'buy' their way to the title?
Saw a bit on podcast about Mc Kiernan moving to Cavan Gaels?  How does the Cavan board allow that?

He's living in the Cavan town parish so can join them. He's actually living in Butlersbridge but they are an intermediate club. His own club got relegated and he was sent off in one game and substituted in relegation play off.

Sure is his own club not only half an hour down the road?

How is that allowed in Cavan with nobody questioning it?

Different if he was living in Dublin and transferred to a Dublin club - wouldn't be an issue.  In any other county, it wouldn't be sanctioned.

It's allowed in every county. You're allowed move to a club local to where you're living if your home club consent to your transfer.


Quote from: marty34 on August 10, 2020, 12:53:06 PM
In any other county, it wouldn't be sanctioned.

Hardly. Barry Moran played in an All Ireland final for Castlebar Mitchels even though he's from Ballaghdereen. Michael Donnellan did likewise for Salthill even though he's from Dunmore.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Cavan19 on August 10, 2020, 01:25:26 PM
QuoteIt's allowed in every county. You're allowed move to a club local to where you're living if your home club consent to your transfer.


The home club doesn't have to consent to it as far as i know you can play for any club within your parish or a neighboring parish.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: marty34 on August 10, 2020, 01:29:21 PM
Quote from: five points on August 10, 2020, 01:02:37 PM
Quote from: marty34 on August 10, 2020, 12:53:06 PM
Quote from: mrdeeds on August 10, 2020, 12:31:58 PM
Quote from: marty34 on August 10, 2020, 11:36:56 AM
Quote from: mrdeeds on August 10, 2020, 11:02:15 AM
The Gaels and Kingscourt look like the teams to beat.

Do the Gaels not,'buy' their way to the title?
Saw a bit on podcast about Mc Kiernan moving to Cavan Gaels?  How does the Cavan board allow that?

He's living in the Cavan town parish so can join them. He's actually living in Butlersbridge but they are an intermediate club. His own club got relegated and he was sent off in one game and substituted in relegation play off.

Sure is his own club not only half an hour down the road?

How is that allowed in Cavan with nobody questioning it?

Different if he was living in Dublin and transferred to a Dublin club - wouldn't be an issue.  In any other county, it wouldn't be sanctioned.

It's allowed in every county. You're allowed move to a club local to where you're living if your home club consent to your transfer.


Quote from: marty34 on August 10, 2020, 12:53:06 PM
In any other county, it wouldn't be sanctioned.

Hardly. Barry Moran played in an All Ireland final for Castlebar Mitchels even though he's from Ballaghdereen. Michael Donnellan did likewise for Salthill even though he's from Dunmore.

Some distance between Salthill and Dunmore in fairness in comparsion between Cavan/Butlersbridge and Swanlinrbar.

Why's he not playing for Butlersbridge if he's living there?
Did Cavan Gaels not 'bring in' Anthony Forde a few years ago as well - always seem to be touting the junior clubs for their best players and 'offering' them something.

I wonder what he's getting?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: marty34 on August 10, 2020, 01:31:33 PM
Quote from: Itchy on August 10, 2020, 01:00:05 PM
Quote from: mrdeeds on August 10, 2020, 12:31:58 PM
Quote from: marty34 on August 10, 2020, 11:36:56 AM
Quote from: mrdeeds on August 10, 2020, 11:02:15 AM
The Gaels and Kingscourt look like the teams to beat.

Do the Gaels not,'buy' their way to the title?
Saw a bit on podcast about Mc Kiernan moving to Cavan Gaels?  How does the Cavan board allow that?

He's living in the Cavan town parish so can join them. He's actually living in Butlersbridge but they are an intermediate club. His own club got relegated and he was sent off in one game and substituted in relegation play off.

The  bit in bold is irrelevant surely? The whole team boundary around Cavan town seems a bit of a joke anyway
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Yeah, what's this about?

If he got sent off or subbed, a player jumps ship - wtf?

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Cavan19 on August 10, 2020, 01:41:25 PM
Quote from: marty34 on August 10, 2020, 01:29:21 PM


Why's he not playing for Butlersbridge if he's living there?


He had a choice of clubs and picked the Gaels he said he wanted to play Senior Championship football as far as i recall from a interview he gave last week.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on August 10, 2020, 01:46:53 PM
He wanted to play Senior, so joined Cavan Gaels over ButlersBridge.
Eamon Fennell transferred to St Vincents from O Tooles a few years ago, when St Vincents were strong. Took a while for that transfer to go through.

It might not be the most sporting thing but the rules alow it.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mrdeeds on August 10, 2020, 02:06:08 PM
Quote from: Itchy on August 10, 2020, 01:00:05 PM
Quote from: mrdeeds on August 10, 2020, 12:31:58 PM
Quote from: marty34 on August 10, 2020, 11:36:56 AM
Quote from: mrdeeds on August 10, 2020, 11:02:15 AM
The Gaels and Kingscourt look like the teams to beat.

Do the Gaels not,'buy' their way to the title?
Saw a bit on podcast about Mc Kiernan moving to Cavan Gaels?  How does the Cavan board allow that?

He's living in the Cavan town parish so can join them. He's actually living in Butlersbridge but they are an intermediate club. His own club got relegated and he was sent off in one game and substituted in relegation play off.

The  bit in bold is irrelevant surely? The whole team boundary around Cavan town seems a bit of a joke anyway

Just highlighting the circumstances he left his club in. Would he  not want to try and rectify that.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Cavan19 on August 10, 2020, 02:09:16 PM
Quote from: mrdeeds on August 10, 2020, 02:06:08 PM
Quote from: Itchy on August 10, 2020, 01:00:05 PM
Quote from: mrdeeds on August 10, 2020, 12:31:58 PM
Quote from: marty34 on August 10, 2020, 11:36:56 AM
Quote from: mrdeeds on August 10, 2020, 11:02:15 AM
The Gaels and Kingscourt look like the teams to beat.

Do the Gaels not,'buy' their way to the title?
Saw a bit on podcast about Mc Kiernan moving to Cavan Gaels?  How does the Cavan board allow that?

He's living in the Cavan town parish so can join them. He's actually living in Butlersbridge but they are an intermediate club. His own club got relegated and he was sent off in one game and substituted in relegation play off.

The  bit in bold is irrelevant surely? The whole team boundary around Cavan town seems a bit of a joke anyway

Just highlighting the circumstances he left his club in. Would he  not want to try and rectify that.

He didn't want to be there and didn't bother his hole in his last game hence he was substituted.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: five points on August 10, 2020, 02:51:47 PM
Quote from: marty34 on August 10, 2020, 01:29:21 PM

Some distance between Salthill and Dunmore in fairness in comparsion between Cavan/Butlersbridge and Swanlinrbar.


Swanlinbar to Cavan town 46.4km.
Salthill to Dunmore 50.7km
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on August 10, 2020, 02:58:19 PM
Donie Vaughan would be another. He transferred from Ballinrobe to Castlebar.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: marty34 on August 10, 2020, 03:05:36 PM
Quote from: five points on August 10, 2020, 02:51:47 PM
Quote from: marty34 on August 10, 2020, 01:29:21 PM

Some distance between Salthill and Dunmore in fairness in comparsion between Cavan/Butlersbridge and Swanlinrbar.


Swanlinbar to Cavan town 46.4km.
Salthill to Dunmore 50.7km
Did you not say that he's living in Butlersbridge?

Regardless, it's a joke by Cavan Gaels and the Cavan county board...even Swanlinbar to a certain extent.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: five points on August 10, 2020, 03:08:52 PM
Quote from: marty34 on August 10, 2020, 03:05:36 PM
Quote from: five points on August 10, 2020, 02:51:47 PM
Quote from: marty34 on August 10, 2020, 01:29:21 PM

Some distance between Salthill and Dunmore in fairness in comparsion between Cavan/Butlersbridge and Swanlinrbar.


Swanlinbar to Cavan town 46.4km.
Salthill to Dunmore 50.7km
Did you not say that he's living in Butlersbridge?

I didn't. But he is. Where was Michael Donnellan living?
Quote
Regardless, it's a joke by Cavan Gaels and the Cavan county board...even Swanlinbar to a certain extent.

Please explain. You've already said it wouldn't happen in any other county, which is patently false, as per the two examples I gave you.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Cavan19 on August 10, 2020, 03:24:21 PM
Quote from: marty34 on August 10, 2020, 03:05:36 PM
Quote from: five points on August 10, 2020, 02:51:47 PM
Quote from: marty34 on August 10, 2020, 01:29:21 PM

Some distance between Salthill and Dunmore in fairness in comparsion between Cavan/Butlersbridge and Swanlinrbar.


Swanlinbar to Cavan town 46.4km.
Salthill to Dunmore 50.7km
Did you not say that he's living in Butlersbridge?

Regardless, it's a joke by Cavan Gaels and the Cavan county board...even Swanlinbar to a certain extent.

It's not a joke it's within the rules of the GAA, what exactly is your problem with it?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: marty34 on August 10, 2020, 05:37:34 PM
Quote from: Cavan19 on August 10, 2020, 03:24:21 PM
Quote from: marty34 on August 10, 2020, 03:05:36 PM
Quote from: five points on August 10, 2020, 02:51:47 PM
Quote from: marty34 on August 10, 2020, 01:29:21 PM

Some distance between Salthill and Dunmore in fairness in comparsion between Cavan/Butlersbridge and Swanlinrbar.


Swanlinbar to Cavan town 46.4km.
Salthill to Dunmore 50.7km
Did you not say that he's living in Butlersbridge?

Regardless, it's a joke by Cavan Gaels and the Cavan county board...even Swanlinbar to a certain extent.

It's not a joke it's within the rules of the GAA, what exactly is your problem with it?

You're getting very touchy about this subject!!

Re: Donie V - that went down well in Mayo.

As I say Butlersbridge is only half an hour away from the club he left.

What do the rest of the Cavan gaa folk on here think about it?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on August 10, 2020, 06:17:56 PM
He's living in ButlersBridge a few years. There was a bit of a falling out with his Club last year. He was a sub in of the championship games last year, and sent off in another.
But ultimately probaly wanted to play Senior club football. He's 30 now and never would have played Senior Club fop before.

Anyway its not rocked Cavan GAA circles. Cavan Gaels have benifted from Transfers so it's not new

Been other club players who have transferred in Cavan in the past . Ray Cullivan to Lavey, Aaron Watson to Ballyhaise,
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: marty34 on August 10, 2020, 06:29:11 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on August 10, 2020, 06:17:56 PM
He's living in ButlersBridge a few years. There was a bit of a falling out with his Club last year. He was a sub in of the championship games last year, and sent off in another.
But ultimately probaly wanted to play Senior club football. He's 30 now and never would have played Senior Club fop before.

Anyway its not rocked Cavan GAA circles. Cavan Gaels have benifted from Transfers so it's not new

Been other club players who have transferred in Cavan in the past . Ray Cullivan to Lavey, Aaron Watson to Ballyhaise,

Thanks Rodney.

But what's this 'I need to play senior championship' about.?
If he's living there, why not play for Butlersbridge?

Did Cavan Gaels not have an amalgimation at minor level last year?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Cavan19 on August 10, 2020, 08:18:17 PM
Quote from: marty34 on August 10, 2020, 05:37:34 PM
Quote from: Cavan19 on August 10, 2020, 03:24:21 PM
Quote from: marty34 on August 10, 2020, 03:05:36 PM
Quote from: five points on August 10, 2020, 02:51:47 PM
Quote from: marty34 on August 10, 2020, 01:29:21 PM

Some distance between Salthill and Dunmore in fairness in comparsion between Cavan/Butlersbridge and Swanlinrbar.


Swanlinbar to Cavan town 46.4km.
Salthill to Dunmore 50.7km
Did you not say that he's living in Butlersbridge?

Regardless, it's a joke by Cavan Gaels and the Cavan county board...even Swanlinbar to a certain extent.

It's not a joke it's within the rules of the GAA, what exactly is your problem with it?

You're getting very touchy about this subject!!


Not atall im just curious to know why you have such an issue with a player in county Cavan who is eligible to play for a club playing for them?

QuoteBut what's this 'I need to play senior championship' about.?
If he's living there, why not play for Butlersbridge?

I think you will need to ask Gearoid that yourself nobody here will have the answer for you.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mrdeeds on August 10, 2020, 08:59:57 PM
Every player wants to play at the highest standard possible.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on August 10, 2020, 11:49:13 PM
Quote from: marty34 on August 10, 2020, 05:37:34 PM
Quote from: Cavan19 on August 10, 2020, 03:24:21 PM
Quote from: marty34 on August 10, 2020, 03:05:36 PM
Quote from: five points on August 10, 2020, 02:51:47 PM
Quote from: marty34 on August 10, 2020, 01:29:21 PM

Some distance between Salthill and Dunmore in fairness in comparsion between Cavan/Butlersbridge and Swanlinrbar.


Swanlinbar to Cavan town 46.4km.
Salthill to Dunmore 50.7km
Did you not say that he's living in Butlersbridge?

Regardless, it's a joke by Cavan Gaels and the Cavan county board...even Swanlinbar to a certain extent.

It's not a joke it's within the rules of the GAA, what exactly is your problem with it?

You're getting very touchy about this subject!!

Re: Donie V - that went down well in Mayo.

As I say Butlersbridge is only half an hour away from the club he left.

What do the rest of the Cavan gaa folk on here think about it?

I'm not in favour of it, goes against the ethos of the GAA. However to stop a transfer there has to be an objection and either club involved or county board can object. Seems neither did. If there was an objection I believe it would've been upheld.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: five points on August 11, 2020, 10:17:02 AM
Quote from: Itchy on August 10, 2020, 11:49:13 PM

I'm not in favour of it, goes against the ethos of the GAA. However to stop a transfer there has to be an objection and either club involved or county board can object. Seems neither did. If there was an objection I believe it would've been upheld.

I don't believe the county board can object. The CCC can of course reject the application if it breaks a rule or bye law.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on August 11, 2020, 06:42:59 PM
Quote from: marty34 on August 10, 2020, 06:29:11 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on August 10, 2020, 06:17:56 PM
He's living in ButlersBridge a few years. There was a bit of a falling out with his Club last year. He was a sub in of the championship games last year, and sent off in another.
But ultimately probaly wanted to play Senior club football. He's 30 now and never would have played Senior Club fop before.

Anyway its not rocked Cavan GAA circles. Cavan Gaels have benifted from Transfers so it's not new

Been other club players who have transferred in Cavan in the past . Ray Cullivan to Lavey, Aaron Watson to Ballyhaise,

Thanks Rodney.

But what's this 'I need to play senior championship' about.?
If he's living there, why not play for Butlersbridge?

Did Cavan Gaels not have an amalgimation at minor level last year?

He would have been playing Intermediate for the past number of years with Swanlinbar, prior to being relegated to Junior last year.  He'd obviously know Senior would be a higher level.  Clubs in Kerry have amalgamations in Senior to test themselves against the best.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Duckquay on August 11, 2020, 09:55:55 PM
Quote from: Itchy on August 10, 2020, 11:49:13 PM
Quote from: marty34 on August 10, 2020, 05:37:34 PM
Quote from: Cavan19 on August 10, 2020, 03:24:21 PM
Quote from: marty34 on August 10, 2020, 03:05:36 PM
Quote from: five points on August 10, 2020, 02:51:47 PM
Quote from: marty34 on August 10, 2020, 01:29:21 PM

Some distance between Salthill and Dunmore in fairness in comparsion between Cavan/Butlersbridge and Swanlinrbar.


Swanlinbar to Cavan town 46.4km.
Salthill to Dunmore 50.7km
Did you not say that he's living in Butlersbridge?

Regardless, it's a joke by Cavan Gaels and the Cavan county board...even Swanlinbar to a certain extent.

It's not a joke it's within the rules of the GAA, what exactly is your problem with it?

You're getting very touchy about this subject!!

Re: Donie V - that went down well in Mayo.

As I say Butlersbridge is only half an hour away from the club he left.

What do the rest of the Cavan gaa folk on here think about it?

I'm not in favour of it, goes against the ethos of the GAA. However to stop a transfer there has to be an objection and either club involved or county board can object. Seems neither did. If there was an objection I believe it would've been upheld.

Not a fan of this either. The phrases being thrown about of 'wanting to play at a higher level etc' read very like the stories we've all read of mid table premiership players explain why they want to join a club playing in the champions league.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on August 11, 2020, 10:09:11 PM
He said it himself in the interview with Colm Parkinson. He wanted to plays Senior.

A pity for Swad as they have lost a few players in the last few years. Greg McGovern in Oz, Mark Cunnigham, and Chris Curran through soccer commitments.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on August 11, 2020, 10:34:51 PM
Quote from: Duckquay on August 11, 2020, 09:55:55 PM
Quote from: Itchy on August 10, 2020, 11:49:13 PM
Quote from: marty34 on August 10, 2020, 05:37:34 PM
Quote from: Cavan19 on August 10, 2020, 03:24:21 PM
Quote from: marty34 on August 10, 2020, 03:05:36 PM
Quote from: five points on August 10, 2020, 02:51:47 PM
Quote from: marty34 on August 10, 2020, 01:29:21 PM

Some distance between Salthill and Dunmore in fairness in comparsion between Cavan/Butlersbridge and Swanlinrbar.


Swanlinbar to Cavan town 46.4km.
Salthill to Dunmore 50.7km
Did you not say that he's living in Butlersbridge?

Regardless, it's a joke by Cavan Gaels and the Cavan county board...even Swanlinbar to a certain extent.

It's not a joke it's within the rules of the GAA, what exactly is your problem with it?

You're getting very touchy about this subject!!

Re: Donie V - that went down well in Mayo.

As I say Butlersbridge is only half an hour away from the club he left.

What do the rest of the Cavan gaa folk on here think about it?

I'm not in favour of it, goes against the ethos of the GAA. However to stop a transfer there has to be an objection and either club involved or county board can object. Seems neither did. If there was an objection I believe it would've been upheld.

Not a fan of this either. The phrases being thrown about of 'wanting to play at a higher level etc' read very like the stories we've all read of mid table premiership players explain why they want to join a club playing in the champions league.

Exactly, its not the way GAA is supposed to be, you don't get to pick your club. What would ye think if he decided he wanted to play with Dublin to win medals (assuming he was good enough). Would that be OK too?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on August 12, 2020, 01:05:53 PM
Plenty of transfers can be way of convenience., Rory Gallagher transferred to Cavan and wasn't living in Cavan. Played a few games with Crosserlough and left that summer.

It doesn't make it right but players take advantage of rules
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on August 12, 2020, 01:32:06 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on August 12, 2020, 01:05:53 PM
Plenty of transfers can be way of convenience., Rory Gallagher transferred to Cavan and wasn't living in Cavan. Played a few games with Crosserlough and left that summer.

It doesn't make it right but players take advantage of rules

No doubt, but it doesnt make it right as you correctly say. And people are within their rights to point out rotten carry on like this whether it be club or county transfers. Look at the damage the last one did to Cavan football.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: five points on August 12, 2020, 02:29:11 PM
Quote from: Itchy on August 12, 2020, 01:32:06 PM

No doubt, but it doesnt make it right as you correctly say. And people are within their rights to point out rotten carry on like this whether it be club or county transfers. Look at the damage the last one did to Cavan football.

What exactly is the "rotten carry on" here?

And as regards "the last one", if its the same (intercounty) transfer that we're thinking of, the big loser in that one was the player who transferred.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on August 12, 2020, 02:35:17 PM
Quote from: five points on August 12, 2020, 02:29:11 PM
Quote from: Itchy on August 12, 2020, 01:32:06 PM

No doubt, but it doesnt make it right as you correctly say. And people are within their rights to point out rotten carry on like this whether it be club or county transfers. Look at the damage the last one did to Cavan football.

What exactly is the "rotten carry on" here?

And as regards "the last one", if its the same (intercounty) transfer that we're thinking of, the big loser in that one was the player who transferred.

If you need me to spell it out for you no problem. The GAA is at its heart a parish level organisation. You are from a parish and you play for that parish. You are from a county and you play for that county. The rotten carry on is moving clubs and or county for your own selfish reasons - whether it is to win, play at a higher level or whatever. It puts you and your own development ahead of the parish/team/county you represent. I call that rotten behaviour. Now i understand that people move and would play somewhere else due to change of address etc. However in the case of Gearoid, he has turned down the team where he lives in favour (by his own admission) his desire to play senior football. In the case of Johnson, he wanted to play county for any county when he was dropped, rather than force his way back into the Cavan team and dragged the county through the media when he done it for months. Again, in my opinion this is rotten behaviour. Maybe within the rules but in my view against the ethos of the GAA.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: five points on August 12, 2020, 02:42:57 PM
Gearoid owes Swad nothing. And had he transferred to Butlersbridge, nobody would have batted an eyelid.  Nobody outside the clubs in question really cares who Ray Cullivan or Aaron Watson plays for.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mrdeeds on August 12, 2020, 03:01:57 PM
You don't just play for the parish you're from, but also where you live as a way to integrate into a new community.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on August 12, 2020, 03:43:46 PM
Quote from: five points on August 12, 2020, 02:42:57 PM
Gearoid owes Swad nothing. And had he transferred to Butlersbridge, nobody would have batted an eyelid.  Nobody outside the clubs in question really cares who Ray Cullivan or Aaron Watson plays for.

Isnt that exactly what I said!! Thats where he should have gone and that would be fine with me as that is where he is living.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on August 12, 2020, 03:44:32 PM
Quote from: mrdeeds on August 12, 2020, 03:01:57 PM
You don't just play for the parish you're from, but also where you live as a way to integrate into a new community.

Again, exactly what I said. He should have moved to the Bridge, no issues from me with him doing that.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: five points on August 12, 2020, 04:01:58 PM
Quote from: Itchy on August 12, 2020, 03:44:32 PM
Quote from: mrdeeds on August 12, 2020, 03:01:57 PM
You don't just play for the parish you're from, but also where you live as a way to integrate into a new community.

Again, exactly what I said. He should have moved to the Bridge, no issues from me with him doing that.

If he had moved to the Bridge, he'd have more than likely ended up playing against Swad. Maybe that wouldn't have bothered him, but if it did, I'd see his point.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on August 12, 2020, 06:09:09 PM
Quote from: five points on August 12, 2020, 04:01:58 PM
Quote from: Itchy on August 12, 2020, 03:44:32 PM
Quote from: mrdeeds on August 12, 2020, 03:01:57 PM
You don't just play for the parish you're from, but also where you live as a way to integrate into a new community.

Again, exactly what I said. He should have moved to the Bridge, no issues from me with him doing that.

If he had moved to the Bridge, he'd have more than likely ended up playing against Swad. Maybe that wouldn't have bothered him, but if it did, I'd see his point.

Except he told parkinson his motivation was to play senior football.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: five points on August 12, 2020, 06:38:23 PM
Quote from: Itchy on August 12, 2020, 06:09:09 PM
Quote from: five points on August 12, 2020, 04:01:58 PM
Quote from: Itchy on August 12, 2020, 03:44:32 PM
Quote from: mrdeeds on August 12, 2020, 03:01:57 PM
You don't just play for the parish you're from, but also where you live as a way to integrate into a new community.

Again, exactly what I said. He should have moved to the Bridge, no issues from me with him doing that.

If he had moved to the Bridge, he'd have more than likely ended up playing against Swad. Maybe that wouldn't have bothered him, but if it did, I'd see his point.

Except he told parkinson his motivation was to play senior football.

Well he's hardly going to tell an interviewer that he doesn't want to play against his native club.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on August 12, 2020, 08:50:11 PM
Quote from: five points on August 12, 2020, 06:38:23 PM
Quote from: Itchy on August 12, 2020, 06:09:09 PM
Quote from: five points on August 12, 2020, 04:01:58 PM
Quote from: Itchy on August 12, 2020, 03:44:32 PM
Quote from: mrdeeds on August 12, 2020, 03:01:57 PM
You don't just play for the parish you're from, but also where you live as a way to integrate into a new community.

Again, exactly what I said. He should have moved to the Bridge, no issues from me with him doing that.

If he had moved to the Bridge, he'd have more than likely ended up playing against Swad. Maybe that wouldn't have bothered him, but if it did, I'd see his point.

Except he told parkinson his motivation was to play senior football.

Well he's hardly going to tell an interviewer that he doesn't want to play against his native club.

Why not?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on August 12, 2020, 09:35:03 PM
He wouldn'have been playing against them this year, had he joined the bridge. The are Intermediate and Division 2, Swad junior and Division 3. ButlersBridge have a decent team and he might have been the extra spark for them to win a Intermediate.

Nonetheless, he's probaly friends with a good few Cavan Gaels players. He would have played with the likes of Niall Murray, Niall Smith, Kevin Meehan, Maloney Derham, from County U16 to U21s
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Duckquay on August 12, 2020, 10:12:42 PM
Quote from: five points on August 12, 2020, 02:42:57 PM
Gearoid owes Swad nothing. And had he transferred to Butlersbridge, nobody would have batted an eyelid.  Nobody outside the clubs in question really cares who Ray Cullivan or Aaron Watson plays for.

With all due respect I don't think you would be in a position to definitively say what he owes Swad or not. Agree with you re. Cullivan and Watson
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on August 13, 2020, 08:27:15 AM
Quote from: Duckquay on August 12, 2020, 10:12:42 PM
Quote from: five points on August 12, 2020, 02:42:57 PM
Gearoid owes Swad nothing. And had he transferred to Butlersbridge, nobody would have batted an eyelid.  Nobody outside the clubs in question really cares who Ray Cullivan or Aaron Watson plays for.

With all due respect I don't think you would be in a position to definitively say what he owes Swad or not. Agree with you re. Cullivan and Watson

Its actually a phrase I really hate, "X owes his club nothing". We all owe our clubs quite a bit in my opinion. They trained us from U8/U10 all the way up to senior at little cost to the player or his/her parents. In the case of Gearoid it might be added this then gave him the chance to represent Cavan which should be a great honour for every player. He also got to play in an All Ireland final with Swad. All this opportunity delivered by hard working club volunteers and yes by a hard working player too. As they say eaten food is soon forgotten.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: five points on August 13, 2020, 02:03:39 PM
Quote from: Itchy on August 13, 2020, 08:27:15 AM
Quote from: Duckquay on August 12, 2020, 10:12:42 PM
Quote from: five points on August 12, 2020, 02:42:57 PM
Gearoid owes Swad nothing. And had he transferred to Butlersbridge, nobody would have batted an eyelid.  Nobody outside the clubs in question really cares who Ray Cullivan or Aaron Watson plays for.

With all due respect I don't think you would be in a position to definitively say what he owes Swad or not. Agree with you re. Cullivan and Watson

Its actually a phrase I really hate, "X owes his club nothing". We all owe our clubs quite a bit in my opinion. They trained us from U8/U10 all the way up to senior at little cost to the player or his/her parents. In the case of Gearoid it might be added this then gave him the chance to represent Cavan which should be a great honour for every player. He also got to play in an All Ireland final with Swad. All this opportunity delivered by hard working club volunteers and yes by a hard working player too. As they say eaten food is soon forgotten.

The club had an opportunity to object to his transfer.  They didn't avail of it.

Anyone who serves their club in any capacity for more than a decade owes it nothing,  in my view. 

Had he quit football altogether nobody would be complaining.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: marty34 on August 13, 2020, 06:37:05 PM
Quote from: five points on August 13, 2020, 02:03:39 PM
Quote from: Itchy on August 13, 2020, 08:27:15 AM
Quote from: Duckquay on August 12, 2020, 10:12:42 PM
Quote from: five points on August 12, 2020, 02:42:57 PM
Gearoid owes Swad nothing. And had he transferred to Butlersbridge, nobody would have batted an eyelid.  Nobody outside the clubs in question really cares who Ray Cullivan or Aaron Watson plays for.

With all due respect I don't think you would be in a position to definitively say what he owes Swad or not. Agree with you re. Cullivan and Watson

Its actually a phrase I really hate, "X owes his club nothing". We all owe our clubs quite a bit in my opinion. They trained us from U8/U10 all the way up to senior at little cost to the player or his/her parents. In the case of Gearoid it might be added this then gave him the chance to represent Cavan which should be a great honour for every player. He also got to play in an All Ireland final with Swad. All this opportunity delivered by hard working club volunteers and yes by a hard working player too. As they say eaten food is soon forgotten.

The club had an opportunity to object to his transfer.  They didn't avail of it.

Anyone who serves their club in any capacity for more than a decade owes it nothing,  in my view. 

Had he quit football altogether nobody would be complaining.

Are you from Cavan Gaels?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: five points on August 14, 2020, 10:18:49 AM
Quote from: marty34 on August 13, 2020, 06:37:05 PM

Are you from Cavan Gaels?

;D ;D ;D ;D

This is an anti-Gaels thing, isn't it?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Duckquay on August 14, 2020, 04:42:17 PM
I definitely have no Gaels agenda anyway.
Our views of what "club" is and means are poles apart. I've played at every age group up to adult and I can tell you that if I was walking away at 29 the amount of complaining that would be done would be outrageous! And I'm no superstar. I've played adult club for 20 years and have did the selling tickets gig, the underage coaching and the works. But I would never ever feel like I'm owed anything. I have some of the best days of my life with my club and that's without winning anything major. Maybe I'm the eegit though  ;D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: marty34 on August 14, 2020, 10:06:10 PM
Quote from: five points on August 14, 2020, 10:18:49 AM
Quote from: marty34 on August 13, 2020, 06:37:05 PM

Are you from Cavan Gaels?

;D ;D ;D ;D

This is an anti-Gaels thing, isn't it?

I take that's a yes then.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on August 15, 2020, 07:54:16 PM
Quote from: marty34 on August 14, 2020, 10:06:10 PM
Quote from: five points on August 14, 2020, 10:18:49 AM
Quote from: marty34 on August 13, 2020, 06:37:05 PM

Are you from Cavan Gaels?

;D ;D ;D ;D

This is an anti-Gaels thing, isn't it?

I take that's a yes then.

It didn't do the gaels much good today, bet out the gate by Ramor.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on August 15, 2020, 08:24:00 PM
Gearoid is a player who excels when on top. He has rarely shown the ability to dig in and lead when things aren't going well. Leaving Swad was no different, they were on a poor run and he had no interest in relegation battles and junior football so he left to play Senior Football with a heavyweight senior club, he does not live in the area of that club. His behaviour in his last couple of games for Swad was embarrassing. The transfer is not technically against the rules but that's the only defence that can be mounted for him it seems.

All that being said, I think Swad are much better off. They have an influx of Corlough lads who have livened things up and given them fresh impetus. The looming figure of McKiernan is something they can do without. The Gaels get a generational talent with a renewed vigour for club football. So there's potentially no losers here long term.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: five points on August 15, 2020, 10:32:34 PM
Quote from: marty34 on August 14, 2020, 10:06:10 PM
Quote from: five points on August 14, 2020, 10:18:49 AM
Quote from: marty34 on August 13, 2020, 06:37:05 PM

Are you from Cavan Gaels?

;D ;D ;D ;D

This is an anti-Gaels thing, isn't it?

I take that's a yes then.

You'd take it wrong then.  😁
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mrdeeds on August 23, 2020, 06:29:06 PM
Kingscourt v Mullahoran
Xlough v Gowna
Castlerahan v Lavey
Ramor v Gaels
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on September 05, 2020, 07:57:06 AM
https://twitter.com/cavstream/status/1301819112377774081/video/1 (https://twitter.com/cavstream/status/1301819112377774081/video/1)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on September 07, 2020, 10:20:58 AM
Another decent weekend of games. Ballinagh look a cut above the rest in intermediate.

Something really needs to be done in Junior, the Maghera result for the teams that drew them skews the whole table. Swad were hard done by, beat 2 Quarter Finalists and go out, Kildallan beat Redhills and hammered Maghera and go through.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mrdeeds on September 07, 2020, 02:45:32 PM
Quote from: Westside on September 07, 2020, 10:20:58 AM
Another decent weekend of games. Ballinagh look a cut above the rest in intermediate.

Something really needs to be done in Junior, the Maghera result for the teams that drew them skews the whole table. Swad were hard done by, beat 2 Quarter Finalists and go out, Kildallan beat Redhills and hammered Maghera and go through.

Maybe Maghera should do what Corlough done and let their players play with Munterconnacht?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on September 07, 2020, 04:09:34 PM
Any idea what the numbers are like in Maghera? The decision was more or less forced on Corlough because they weren't going to be able to field and could probably have been made a couple of years earlier.

If they have numbers and want to make a go of it then grand, but the score difference needs to be ignored from these games because it's making a Maghera result into 3 points more or less. Should probably ignore the score difference against the lowest ranked team or something to that effect.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mrdeeds on September 07, 2020, 07:25:47 PM
Quote from: Westside on September 07, 2020, 04:09:34 PM
Any idea what the numbers are like in Maghera? The decision was more or less forced on Corlough because they weren't going to be able to field and could probably have been made a couple of years earlier.

If they have numbers and want to make a go of it then grand, but the score difference needs to be ignored from these games because it's making a Maghera result into 3 points more or less. Should probably ignore the score difference against the lowest ranked team or something to that effect.

They toggef 21 out for championship but a lot of them are lads just togging out to make sure they field. If all the players from Maghera togged out for them rather than Ramor they'd have a strong team.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on September 20, 2020, 09:13:45 PM
Kingscourt thump the gaels 2-12 to 0-10 playing more than half the game without Padraig Faulkner. The Gaels will need to spend wisely in next seasons transfer market.

Kingscourt v Crosserlough County final and its on rte live next Saturday evening
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: marty34 on September 20, 2020, 09:49:04 PM
Quote from: mrdeeds on September 07, 2020, 07:25:47 PM
Quote from: Westside on September 07, 2020, 04:09:34 PM
Any idea what the numbers are like in Maghera? The decision was more or less forced on Corlough because they weren't going to be able to field and could probably have been made a couple of years earlier.

If they have numbers and want to make a go of it then grand, but the score difference needs to be ignored from these games because it's making a Maghera result into 3 points more or less. Should probably ignore the score difference against the lowest ranked team or something to that effect.

They toggef 21 out for championship but a lot of them are lads just togging out to make sure they field. If all the players from Maghera togged out for them rather than Ramor they'd have a strong team.

Have Corlough folded?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Look-Up! on September 21, 2020, 03:54:19 PM
Interesting final in prospect. Great wins for Crosserlough and Kingscourt yesterday.
Very exciting semi final with Castlerahan. Both teams made plenty of mistakes. Crosserlough play nice stuff at times but can look inexperienced and nervous and struggle to capitalize when on top. But they showed plenty of fight too when the BJD outfit had the upper hand. Finally got the momentum with the penalty decision and result never in doubt after that. Plenty for them to improve on too which is no bad way to approach a final. It looked a frustrated Castlerahan side after that and maybe one on the wane. Very sad to see Ronan Flanagan have to be carried off.
Great composed performance from Kingscourt to see off the Gaels. They played some beautiful sweeping first time football at times but were very disciplined and frustrated the Gaels when they had to. All without their two best players too. Barry Reilly is a class act and if there is one man you would want on your team for county final day, it's him. McKiernan looked like he was going to set the house on fire from the off but Alan Clarke put him off his stride. Looked eye catching at times but overall his influence was limited even though he was one of their better performers. Lucky to stay on the pitch too. Plenty of good footballers on that Gaels team but look short of leaders and ideas when plan A doesn't work.
Hard to call a winner for the final. Hope Faulkner is ok to play. I heard a few people already tipping Crosserlough to win but I'm not so sure. They need to improve and they need to show more composure. On balance they might have more good footballers than Kingscourt but if you were to pick the top 3/4 players on show for the final you could argue they're all from East Cavan. Kingscourt can probably mix the game plan up more and have the players to control a game and change the tempo when required. Much like the Gaels, if plan A goes out the window I would worry for Crosserlough. A good start and open game is essential for them. They most certainly don't want to be chasing a lead against a team like Kingscourt.
Great Intermediate final in prospect too. Only saw one of the semi finals yeaterday. Great game of football. Niall McDermott is still a class act.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on September 21, 2020, 07:15:44 PM
Crosserlough play a swashbuckling style, but look suspect when teams run at them. The Smiths were very good for Crosserlough. Pierce with a good goal. They did lack composure at times, was one instance where they tried to fist a goal when maybe could have caught the ball.
Mackey would have been a big help for Castlerahan. It was a game like yesterday, where he would shown his cuteness..

Kingscourt deserving winners. Cian Shecelton a player under the radar with a very good performance. He was a Co Minor panelist a few years ago. Barry Reilly would be the best free taker in the County. A shame he can't commit to the County.
Bar G McKiernan the Gaels look a bit limited. Niall Murray missed the whole Championship and would be a big loss,.
But they have a lot of similar type players..  Kingscourt have bigger athletic forwards like Peter Corrigan and Tinnelly who are quality players.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on September 27, 2020, 10:47:36 AM
Did the heart good to see that game.  Must have been good crack to hear the boys on Northern Sound. 
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on September 28, 2020, 01:43:02 PM
Safe to say Knockbride didn't take their beating well...
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: five points on September 28, 2020, 02:35:58 PM
Something happen?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on September 28, 2020, 04:23:52 PM
Well the stewards had to come on and walk the ref off the field while the Knockbride players remonstrated with him. They (not necessarily players) seem to have sent a lot of complaints the way of the WeAreCavan Podcast. Strange behaviour given that they didn't lead the game at any point and the footage shows a clear square ball. I wonder did the umpire tell them he thought otherwise and that's what caused the furore?

Good senior final. I'd probably fancy Crosserlough for the replay. They look like the better side.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: five points on September 28, 2020, 05:41:54 PM
Thanks. I just heard there was a late square ball goal. Them's the breaks...

It was a great senior final. Crosserlough are the better team but Kingscourt are smart and work very hard.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on September 28, 2020, 09:25:53 PM
Quote from: Westside on September 28, 2020, 01:43:02 PM
Safe to say Knockbride didn't take their beating well...

Making fools of themselves on twitter
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on September 28, 2020, 09:27:15 PM
Quote from: five points on September 28, 2020, 05:41:54 PM
Thanks. I just heard there was a late square ball goal. Them's the breaks...

It was a great senior final. Crosserlough are the better team but Kingscourt are smart and work very hard.

I'm not so sure, Kingscourt looked to have figured them out at the end of that game. I think stars could do it. If only mcvitty was in the country, his presence would be the difference.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mrdeeds on September 28, 2020, 10:48:22 PM
Quote from: Itchy on September 28, 2020, 09:25:53 PM
Quote from: Westside on September 28, 2020, 01:43:02 PM
Safe to say Knockbride didn't take their beating well...

Making fools of themselves on twitter

It's awful carry on a club's twitter doing that. It was a square ball.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Look-Up! on September 29, 2020, 11:32:07 AM
Congratulations to Ballinagh on a great victory at weekend. Niall McDermott is a class act and hard to pick a better club forward in the county at the moment.
Senior final was a great game of football. Played in great spirit, high tempo, open and honest in perfect conditions for football. Crosserlough got off to a great start and looked like they could romp away with it but once Kingscourt got to the grips of the game they reeled them in. I think Crosserlough will be disappointed they were not much further ahead at half time but it's a trait of this team that they don't always transfer their dominance to the score board. Having said that they rode their luck a bit too with a couple of refereeing decisions. Second half despite conceding a goal immediately, Kingscourt really found their groove and looked the more controlled team last quarter. A lot of Crosserlough players went out of the game at that stage and it looked like the ship would founder. Conceded a bad goal too which could have killed them but they rallied late to book a replay. They deserve huge credit for that but I don't think the referee did them any harm either.
Replay another hard one to call. There's cases to be made for both. Crosserlough have great energy and heart and can look spectacular but can go out of games just as quickly. Even if 10 points up you never feel they are home and hosed. But whatever they lack in composure there's a never say die attitude about them that can never be written off.
Kingscourt looked the more controlled team although first 20 minutes, bar Faulkner, they looked suspect. But once they got going and especially in the championship rounds of the fight, more of their players came to the fore and stood up. Was it because they finally sussed this Crosserlough team out or just a random ebb and flow nature of football? Time will tell.
Hopefully we get another cracker but it's a possibility playing conditions won't be as good with rain forecast for the week and maybe heavy at weekend. Change of referee as well which Kingscourt might have been happy with initially but maybe Faulkner not so much when he saw who it is!!!! Anyway, wouldn't rule out penalties.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on September 29, 2020, 04:51:58 PM
Graham would have stronger forward options, then at the start of the year. Caoimhin O Reilly and McDermott will likely be recalled. Joe Dillon was playing great with the Kingscourt before the injury.  He'd likely have got a recall, jinxed with injuries.
Paddy Lynch,  maybe Peter Corrigan will get call ups. Maybe Givney if he was interested.

It's a short schedule so might appeal to some players to give it a go. Guarantee of 3 games. 2 league.  Not endless training for months. Gary Sice was persuaded back to Galway panel at 36. It could be a shrewd move.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Look-Up! on October 06, 2020, 02:48:26 PM
Congratulations to Crosserlough on a great victory. It was a tough game of football and Crosserlough were full value for the win. I think Kingscourt will be disappointed they seemed to have left their shooting boots at home. They did seem to have more of the play first half but Crosserlough settled quicker and made better use of their opportunities. Also credit to them they defended much more aggressively second time round and you could put some of Kingscourt's misses down to this.
Second half was a battle of attrition which the Lough won. Kingscourt maybe panicked a bit and seemed to give up the ghost very early of reeling them in by kicking points. They put in countless high ball but Crosserlough defended manfully. Looked very assured in that respect and there was no letting the opponent easily back into the game. Maybe a coming of age performance for this young team.
Some terrific performances all over from the Lough. Very few were below par. Lynch, although quiet at times still kicked 5 points. The midfield though were the leaders. James Smith was majestic at times and a few of his takes and scores were truly inspirational. Hard to argue his MOM award but I thought last 15 minutes when they were under a bit of pressure and Smith had gone out of the game somewhat, Mark Stuart was a colossus. He swallowed up everything in front of his defense that Kingscourt could throw. His positioning, aggression and drive were exactly what his team needed at that point and it was fitting that the man who rescued the replay was there again at the coalface when his team needed him most.
Hard to know where Kingscourt go from here. Some of their players are not getting any younger but there's plenty of youth and talent there too. I think they'll be back. Can Crosserlough drive on from here? Very important for them and their manager to get this monkey off their backs and they say the first one is the hardest to win. With McVeety to come back, some younger players to break through and some of the first team youngsters to mature and improve, I think we'll see plenty more from this team over the next few years. Whether they have the firepower to dominate though is a big if.
Plenty more clubs out their with lots of talent who will be hoping to get their hands on the Oliver Plunkett Cup soon. I think Gowna could be one to really push on over the next few years so regardless of where our County footballers take us in the future, I think we have plenty to look forward to in our club scene and there should be some titanic battles in store down the line. All in all the club scene is not as bad as some would say and I think we were treated to a great championship this year.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on October 10, 2020, 09:05:55 PM
Any word on who is in or out of the county panel? Did Killian Clarke return?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on October 17, 2020, 06:44:40 PM
Minors robbed today by horrendous refereeing. Mind you if they had one forward able to score from play they'd have win easily.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on October 17, 2020, 07:26:10 PM
They should have been out of sight but you shouldn't have to rely on being out of sight. The ref really looked like he wanted to punish Cavan at every opportunity. Blowing up 2 minutes early is something he should be made to account for, they can get away with going over the time but cutting 2 minutes off the announced time should be chased up.

Our full back should probably have been brought out to midfield earlier. The centre back was excellent too.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on October 19, 2020, 11:40:31 AM
I think we are looking at likely relegation. Cant see us beating Roscommon unless Roscommon play a weakened team, they seemed to have every one of their top players back against Armagh. If we lose we would need Laois to lose in Fermanagh and with Fermanaghs woes, the fact they are already relegated, I cant see that happen. Those two results would almost certainly relegate us on 6 points. That Clare defeat could prove very damaging.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: delgany on October 19, 2020, 01:44:48 PM
Quote from: Itchy on October 17, 2020, 06:44:40 PM
Minors robbed today by horrendous refereeing. Mind you if they had one forward able to score from play they'd have win easily.

Who was the ref ?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Look-Up! on October 19, 2020, 02:17:17 PM
Disappointing result. Ok performance. Some of the newbies showed reasonably well. The lead up to half time and 3rd quarter killed us and left us with a mountain to climb. Some of our wides were poor, mistakes on kickouts worrying and missed penalty disappointing but these things can happen. However the constant kicking of point attempts into GK arms at this level is criminal.
Other than that is was a decent game of football. We competed well and looked very good at times but for that 20 minute spell where we couldn't keep the score board ticking over. Kildare on the other hand couldn't seem to miss and were taking some exceptional scores. Unfortunately we found ourselves cut adrift fairly rapidly but we did rally well for the finish. Kildare look a decent team, unusually clinical upfront for a Lilywhite outfit. Also much more cynical than us when they needed to be.
May need a favour elsewhere now at this stage to stay in Division 2. If we can avoid a hammering against Roscommon we might just stay up. It's in our own hands of course and possible we could beat them but I'd just be a bit worried we're a bit light looking and nice yet in a few areas. Roscommon are a serious outfit. Experienced, battle hardened, fully fit squad and a team that should be looking at surviving Division 1. If they get a run on us they could go to town. Fingers crossed we can pull off a big performance.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on October 19, 2020, 03:51:57 PM
Quote from: delgany on October 19, 2020, 01:44:48 PM
Quote from: Itchy on October 17, 2020, 06:44:40 PM
Minors robbed today by horrendous refereeing. Mind you if they had one forward able to score from play they'd have win easily.

Who was the ref ?

A fella called Enda Mallon. Not sure where he is from.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: DuffleKing on October 23, 2020, 03:27:40 PM
Quote from: Itchy on October 19, 2020, 03:51:57 PM
Quote from: delgany on October 19, 2020, 01:44:48 PM
Quote from: Itchy on October 17, 2020, 06:44:40 PM
Minors robbed today by horrendous refereeing. Mind you if they had one forward able to score from play they'd have win easily.

Who was the ref ?

A fella called Enda Mallon. Not sure where he is from.

O shit. Sorry about that lads - he's one of ours (Armagh). Don't take it personally, he's an atrocious ref and an attention seeking nuisance every day out.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on October 25, 2020, 08:45:06 PM
Very depressing to be relegated when we were in the hunt for promotion but those were two totally pathetic performances against Kildare and Roscommon. I was thinking today that this is a player issue and Graham needs more time, with all the chopping and changing to his panel. Then I did a google search and went back to 2016 when we played Galway with promotion to Div 1 the prize for the winner. I pick Galway as you can see them today battling for the Div 1 totle against the dubs. Here are the teams in a game Cavan won 1-16 to 1-12 ...

Cavan: R Galligan (0-2, 2 45s), P Faulkner, K Clarke, J McLoughlin, C Brady, C Moynagh, K Brady, T Corr, L Buchanan (0-1), D McVeety (0-1), G McKiernan (0-5), M Reilly, D Givney (1-1), M Argue, J Brady (0-2f)

Subs: N Murray (0-1) for Argue (51 mins), E Keating (0-2) for J Brady (55 mins), C Mackey for M Reilly (60 mins), R Dunne for Buchanan (BC, 63 mins), C Conroy for Corr (70 mins)

Galway: M Breathnach, D Wynne (0-1), D Kyne, C Sweeney, L Silke, G O'Donnell, G Bradshaw, E Brannigan (0-2), P Conroy, T Flynn, P Sweeney, G Sice (0-3f), S Walsh (0-4, 1f, 45), D Cummins (0-1), D Comer (1-1)

So Cavan retain the services of 11 of those players and Galway 8 of theirs. Yet the differences in where these team have gone since then in stark. What is wrong in Cavan. Are players just not willing to put it in. Is our backroom set up not good enough. Why does every team we play against look in better condition to us. I wish I knew the answers. All I see is a heavy defeat against Monaghan next weekend in front of the SKY TV cameras
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: gortnaleck on October 25, 2020, 10:17:51 PM
I wouldn't be blaming the players too much. I think the trouble starts with their defensive system. More  defenders are needed and backs need to be up with their markers contesting the ball and not lying back and letting the forwards get easy possession.Attacking half backs are great but you get caught out at the back when you have a turnover or shot drop short.Cant remember numbers exactly but think we were well outnumbered for the goal.
Roscommon are Connacht champions. Meath drew with Monaghan today as well.Not much between a lot of teams and Cavan still have some great young talent coming through,so the club coaches are doing a great job. Think we just need that superstar or two to make the difference
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on October 26, 2020, 09:41:53 AM
Quote from: gortnaleck on October 25, 2020, 10:17:51 PM
I wouldn't be blaming the players too much. I think the trouble starts with their defensive system. More  defenders are needed and backs need to be up with their markers contesting the ball and not lying back and letting the forwards get easy possession.Attacking half backs are great but you get caught out at the back when you have a turnover or shot drop short.Cant remember numbers exactly but think we were well outnumbered for the goal.
Roscommon are Connacht champions. Meath drew with Monaghan today as well.Not much between a lot of teams and Cavan still have some great young talent coming through,so the club coaches are doing a great job. Think we just need that superstar or two to make the difference

What team had a great system in place this year given all the disruptions, only teams like Tyrone with same manager and squad in place for years. I don't blame young players coming in but I do question a number of established players. Why is Jason mcloughlin physically the same build as he was 5 years ago, why has gunner not learned that he is giving away 3/4 points a game from frees and rarely makes it to 70 minutes as a result, why is gearoid going missing still in big games. I could go on. Players need to look at themselves in the mirror. Its an easy out to blame managers. Do you think there is a better manager than Graham out there with record of success that would manage us?? I dont think so
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Look-Up! on October 26, 2020, 01:19:10 PM
Very disappointing result at weekend. It's worrying that for such an important game we didn't look the least bit up for it. The bit of luck we needed elsewhere, and it looked like we might get it with Fermanagh leading 5 points against 14 men with time almost up, finally ran out. Fair play to Laois, it was some finish and we fully deserve to find ourselves in Division 3.
Where to start on the game? Team selection bizarre to say the least with some of our better performers last week no where to be seen. I cannot get my head around the selection of Clarke and Murray. If it was some sort of masterstroke move with an eye on getting our main men ready for the Monaghan game then I will give Graham the benefit of the doubt for the week, but for my money neither of those two will be fit to play a match in a month never mind 7 days.
From the off we looked second best. There were some green shoots here and there with some of the younger lads showing a bit of potential but overall we laboured badly, had no cohesion, lacked leadership, appeared unfit and slow in certain positions and looked devoid of a game plan. In fact we looked to be playing against ourselves at times- what a calamity of a goal that was! Left our shooting boots at home too. Couple of the second half substitutions gave us a bit of a shot in the arm but we never really looked like pulling it back. We had a great goal chance to put us back in contention but you always felt Roscommon could keep us at arms length.
In hindsight McVeety and Moynagh are a huge loss. They have plenty of detractors but they have always led the line and got us going when we needed especially in league. There was nothing on Saturday. Gearoid was disappointing for me. In fairness he tried hard but he was very frustrating to watch. Insisted on being in the middle of everything but just got in the way a lot. All our attacks slowed down as soon as he got on the ball. He has been a great servant for us but at the moment he looks to be no longer able to go past players. Every time he tried it the last day he turned back out, either got surrounded and lost it or soloed back down the field and kicked the ball back to our midfield or half backs. Hopefully he can find some old form again because we will badly need him against the Farney to avoid a hammering. I thought Galligan showed a bit of drive and purpose when he came on. Maybe Gearoid could be moved farther forward.
Onto Championship. I know it's a derby and form goes out the window but I really worry we will be given a severe lesson. We just look so flat and disorganised at the moment. Over the years we have had some bad days out but it's usually been against the top 6 teams. In League we've always looked competitive and up for the fight and when we've had bad days at the office we've always reacted well the next day out. I don't like being over critical but for such an important game for Div 2 survival and after a tepid enough affair with Kildare the week before, that performance at the weekend was as bad as it gets.
The year is a write off at this stage for me. Not expecting anything against Monaghan so anything other than a hammering will be a pleasant surprise. Onto next year and Division 3. It will be tough enough getting back up. I think if the team and management play with the same attitude we've seen the last few games and feel we're too good for the third tier then we're in for a very rude awakening.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mrdeeds on October 28, 2020, 05:20:01 PM
Some craic Cavan having two illegal players in panel versus Kildare. One got on too. Kildare notified Cavan after game.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: five points on October 28, 2020, 05:25:15 PM
Quote from: mrdeeds on October 28, 2020, 05:20:01 PM
Some craic Cavan having two illegal players in panel versus Kildare. One got on too. Kildare notified Cavan after game.

Illegal how?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mrdeeds on October 28, 2020, 06:12:56 PM
Quote from: five points on October 28, 2020, 05:25:15 PM
Quote from: mrdeeds on October 28, 2020, 05:20:01 PM
Some craic Cavan having two illegal players in panel versus Kildare. One got on too. Kildare notified Cavan after game.

Illegal how?

Too young. Only turned 18 this year.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: five points on October 28, 2020, 06:31:55 PM
Thanks.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on October 28, 2020, 07:12:59 PM
Quote from: mrdeeds on October 28, 2020, 05:20:01 PM
Some craic Cavan having two illegal players in panel versus Kildare. One got on too. Kildare notified Cavan after game.

Caoimhin McGovern and who else?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on October 28, 2020, 07:27:02 PM
Some level of administration incompetence that.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mrdeeds on October 28, 2020, 08:36:55 PM
Quote from: Westside on October 28, 2020, 07:12:59 PM
Quote from: mrdeeds on October 28, 2020, 05:20:01 PM
Some craic Cavan having two illegal players in panel versus Kildare. One got on too. Kildare notified Cavan after game.

Caoimhin McGovern and who else?

Cian O Reilly
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Duckquay on October 28, 2020, 10:06:55 PM
So Kildare had to notify us to let us know?
That's a scenario that's inexcusable on several levels
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: gortnaleck on October 29, 2020, 01:35:22 AM
Where's Cian O Reilly from.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mrdeeds on October 29, 2020, 11:04:10 AM
Quote from: gortnaleck on October 29, 2020, 01:35:22 AM
Where's Cian O Reilly from.

Killygarry
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on October 31, 2020, 09:14:17 PM
Brilliant win. Great resolve, great calmness shown under pressure towards the end. The best single championship performance we have seen in a long time from Thomas Galligan. Gearoid stood up and was counted, Oisin Kiernan looked like a real leader. The sort of outrageous kick to beat them that they have beaten us with in the past.

Lots of negatives though, we were second best for long periods. I don't think anyone can deny that Monaghan took the foot off the gas, knocked over points when the goals were on. I thought Cormac O'Reilly wasn't great, wasted ball. Doughty gave the ball away twice in the last few minutes under minimal pressure. We were porous at the back. We struggled badly up front in the first half. But absolutely no doubt about the application of the players.

So Antrim up next in the first round proper. Two division 3 teams next year so I hope nobody looks past them. We need a better plan up front. Is it worth sticking Thomas Galligan in there to keep the Antrim defence honest? We need more cover for the defence. Going man to man isn't working and we are finding ourselves out of games and having to pull together outrageous efforts to work our way back into contention.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: bannside on October 31, 2020, 10:07:09 PM
Wish we were Div 3 Westside. Close three years in a row, but no cigar! Still Div 4 next year.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on October 31, 2020, 10:54:43 PM
Quote from: bannside on October 31, 2020, 10:07:09 PM
Wish we were Div 3 Westside. Close three years in a row, but no cigar! Still Div 4 next year.

My mistake! Let's hope next week will be our only meeting anytime soon then.  ;D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: restorepride on October 31, 2020, 11:09:03 PM
Some fantastic scores by an Cabhán today, especially in second half.  Great hunger and deserved win.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on November 02, 2020, 10:28:44 AM
Well that was a sweet sweet win, against all the odds and the doubters - of which i was one. Even the eternal optimists on wearecavan predicted a Monaghan win.

It was a really strange game. A good 1st quarter where we looked up for it, only for monaghan to wake up and run through our defense just like Roscommon and Kildare had done in the last 2 league games. Monaghan had a few chances for goals which they got neither a goal or a point from which ended up very costly for them - we rode our luck, until McManus finally got through very easily it must be said.

I watched the 3rd quarter and it was very odd stuff. Monaghan deciding no longer to commit to running at us, which they had done so successfully and Cavan refusing to push up and force Began to kick long where we had been dominating. Found it hard to understand what Mickey was at there, maybe a realisation it wasnt in the legs to press for the whole 2nd half? Anyway, when the press eventually came in the 3rd quarter it was a finely timed effort with Gerry nailing the equaliser on 72 minutes with a beauty. But up to that we had superb showings from Thomas Galligan, Gearoid, Fortune, Conroy - I have to say humble pie for me, those lads showed up when leadership was needed.

Extra time we did so well for 8 mins in the 1st half, holding the ball and when Monaghan got McGuinness sent off it looked like we were in a great position but a poor kick out let them in for a point and then another which flattered them when they looked totally out of ideas. The goal was a massive lift then in the 2nd half but we began doing some mental things with the ball then, Ray blasting a free away, Doughty coughing up possession like an U12 in a senior game and Martin Reillys daft black card and we transpired to give Monaghan that chance they were looking for which Began took. But what balls followed. Ray kicked long cos it was too dodgy to go short, Galligan won a ball in the the middle of 3 Monaghan men and took them on instead of standing for the mark and what an incredible free from Ray. It doesnt get much sweeter than that. Well done to the team and management.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Look-Up! on November 03, 2020, 03:09:02 PM
I'd agree with all of that Itchy. Very sweet victory and one hardly any Cavan person could have predicted. Monaghan will be sick. They really should have been home and hosed by half time. We did ok from a forward point of view first half. Ran up a decent score against an extremely strong wind but we were a shambles defensively bar Raymond Galligan who kept us in the game. The mismatch in pace between our defence and their attack was frightening at times and every move they came forward they looked like scoring a goal. We struggled to lay a hand on them at times but by some sort of miracle we were just 7 adrift at half time.
Second half was a Mexican standoff. Despite the strong breeze and us having players who are generally good at shooting from distance we didn't really do much. It was very frustrating and looked like we just wanted to see out a respectable defeat. Despite Monaghan having the players who seemingly could run through us at will they did nothing, maybe happy to protect what they had. The couple of times they did run at us we looked suspect. Then it all kicked off in the last 10 minutes. We moved up and they flinched. Starting winning ball round the middle and creating shooting opportunities from around the 45 and once the gap went down to 4 you could sense they were in real trouble. As I said Monaghan will be sick with what transpired but full credit to our lads. Some of those scores, despite the strong breeze, were top top drawer.
Extra time we had some heroic performers. Very satisfying to see so many stand up and be counted and not let Monaghan up off the ropes. Despite all that had gone on before, luck, bad luck, whatever, we found ourselves in the melting pot with a much more experienced and accomplished opponent and both of us had it all to play for again. We made mistakes of course but overall we finished a much stronger team than how we started. Hopefully we can build on it.
Antrim will be a tricky opponent but if we perform how we can we should be able to get over the line. We will justifiably be favourites which is always a worry in itself. Defensively we have plenty of question marks over us and up front our experience in big games is limited. So really anything can happen and if we're not on top form from the start we could be in trouble. I think it's crucial we keep a clean sheet in goals. I feel for Antrim to win they'll need to score a couple.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Look-Up! on November 09, 2020, 01:38:36 PM
Into an Ulster semi-final second year on the trot. We'll take that. Hopefully no new knocks this week and a few of the injured lads can come back refreshed for the weekend. We'll need all the help we can get on this weekend's evidence.
Antrim will feel this is a game they left behind. Contained us reasonably well for much of the game and carved out some great opportunities. Both teams were guilty of bad wides into the Ballinagh end but our wides first half were from defensive pressure and some very questionable shot selection. Some of the Antrim wides second half were just really poor. They worked the ball very well into good opportunities that were reasonably easy to convert. You could feel each wide sucking the confidence out of them. Another Galligan save was also a massive moment at a critical time in the game. Our substitutions turned the tide for us and we finished the game reasonably strongly.
Where to start on us? It's very worrying but again defensively we looked, I suppose shambolic is the word, for a lot of the game. When teams run at us we are in serious trouble. There's lads that look stuck to the ground. They're there or thereabouts and covering space when we're setup but once the gaps appear we have serious issues with tracking runners, basic tackling and needless fouling. Communication is another issue and is beyond a joke at this stage. For the fourth week on the trot we have seen multiple players going for the same ball, no call coming, and inevitably stupidly gifting the ball back to the opposition when they had zero chance of getting it.
We look leaderless and directionless too for long spells. It was only the introduction of Thomas Galligan again that brought a bit of impetus and purpose to our play. He takes the game to the opposition and gets their defence out of their comfort zone, which is in stark contrast to some of our forwards who just seem to amble around aimlessly, get on easy ball and recycle. When we don't have the ball their work rate is questionable too. Some of the Antrim kick outs to the wings were extremely predictable and far far too easy.
On a positive note it was our fourth week in a row playing against a rested team and we did have a gruelling derby that went to extra time 7 days previously. We finished the game again stronger and we have an extra days rest than our next opponent so hopefully we see a better performance. Down looked decent yesterday and extremely capable of causing us damage. If they get amongst the goals they could run out comfortable enough so it's very important we tighten up at the back and we may need to hit the net a couple of times ourselves.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on November 09, 2020, 03:28:08 PM
It was a flat performance, we didnt look up for it. I suppose how much prep could we really have done for Antrim, probably not a lot. I think it was just about finding a way to win and we did that with a player down for pretty much the whole 2nd half. And thats the thing that annoyed me most. Gunners idiotic black card, this man needs to be sat down and told to cop on or ship out. He will cost us in a really big game. I know he brings physicality but thats not what he is getting cards for, its for lazy silly tackles when players are going nowhere or daft off the ball stuff like Saturday. There is just no excuse. I thought Gerry Smith was poor after a brilliant game against Monaghan, before his black card he didnt go down on a ball which allowed him to be turned over and resulted in him commiting the foul. We all know what a good player Gerry is so I am putting that down to fatigue and hopefully he will be sound next week. My big concern is our inside forwards, they really struggled to win ball and to make good runs inside the Antrim mass defence. I think if we could get Madden back fit and leave him inside against Down it could give us another dimension. Down are very defensive this year so we will need to really improve on this. All that said, we have an extra day recovery and I am still hopefull we can beat Down. The heat has been taken out of the expectation too which will help. Down have been in Div 3 for a good few years so playing at a higher level should also help us. Cavan by a point or two is my prediction.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on November 10, 2020, 01:07:23 PM
would TED be an impact sub or woulld he be able for the whole game?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on November 10, 2020, 01:31:45 PM
I think TED could easily offer as much as Pierson or Cormac O'Reilly have offered by way of scoring threat over the last couple of games. That's not a high bar though.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Look-Up! on November 10, 2020, 02:34:35 PM
Pierson doesn't look fit enough for me but is the most natural score getter. I thought Cormac O'Reilly has performed ok. He just seems isolated every time he gets the ball in there but he has looked very strong and willing to get on the ball. TED has looked good coming on when the game perhaps has more space and tired legs. Madden another option but is very hot and cold and always manages to keep the shorts gleaming white in a battle. Conor Smith looked ok in league before injury. Championship is another matter though.
All in all there's many cases to be made for starters and probably not much of a muchness. The fact it's winter football I give the nod to COR for starters and someone else. I'd like to see more support in there and maybe a target man. Gearoid is probably more needed further out, pity James Smith is injured, could be given a try in this role. Madden if fit perhaps a target option and then some good enough options from the bench later on.   
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on November 10, 2020, 05:31:09 PM
Quote from: Westside on November 10, 2020, 01:31:45 PM
I think TED could easily offer as much as Pierson or Cormac O'Reilly have offered by way of scoring threat over the last couple of games. That's not a high bar though.

For me he would struggle physically I think to start the game. Better coming on a sub. Madden is one I would like to see get back in there but not sure where he is with his injury.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on November 10, 2020, 06:16:58 PM
I suppose the reality is that if we had Michael Murphy in our inside line it's no good if we don't let the ball into him. Hard to know if this is is because we don't trust the lads inside to do the job or if we are unable or unwilling to take the chance and let the ball in. We have also been faced with packed defences and will more than likely face another one next Sunday. I believe that more could be done to get the shooters possession in around the D though, and more chances could be taken to get an advanced mark.

Cavan are pretty much being written off going into this game which is odd. I'd have it very 50/50.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Look-Up! on November 10, 2020, 07:37:22 PM
In fairness most of our team, never mind forwards, are very light weight compared to Murphy. It's one thing getting to a ball, it's another thing holding on to it when it's slick, underfoot slippy and hits coming in from all around with little to no space.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on November 15, 2020, 04:51:16 PM
The Monaghan win is hard to top but, that certainly comes close. That was some effort in the second half.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on November 15, 2020, 06:31:42 PM
I cant remember us coming back from defeat in many big championship matches before. That 2nd half was something else and fair play to them for doing it. We will need two halves like that and a bit more to trouble Donegal. I thought most impressive was faulkner, gearoid and galligan in that last 20 minutes plus madden who was really in the humour today.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on November 15, 2020, 11:27:39 PM
My jaw is still on the floor. That was an incredible comeback. Every bit as bad as they were first half - lethargic and standing off, chasing spaces, lurching at shadows in defence, pedestrian and predictable in attack - they were twice as good in the second - tackling with intensity, letting the ball in quickly, shooting decisively, great cutting in them and all guts and glory. It'd make you proud to be from Cavan. Mickey Graham is getting the maximum out of these players and Ulster final appearances should be minimum target for the team in most years I feel.

Donegal will be another kettle of fish. I hope Cavan don't overthink it like they seem to do against big-name opponents, and wait until they're way behind before snapping out of whatever mental straitjacket they seem to start games in these days. I don't expect a victory but another embarrassing tail-between-the-legs exit, like we've seen way too often against Tyrone and Donegal in recent years, would be very demoralising. Hope they go down with their boots on and make Donegal work for it at least.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on November 16, 2020, 11:41:55 AM
are the Galligans related?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on November 16, 2020, 12:50:30 PM
Quote from: Denn Forever on November 16, 2020, 11:41:55 AM
are the Galligans related?

Cousins I think.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Look-Up! on November 16, 2020, 03:32:20 PM
First cousins. 1st cousins of McVeety also I think.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Look-Up! on November 16, 2020, 04:34:04 PM
What a comeback yesterday. Fair play to the lads. I didn't think they had a hope at half time. Too many heroes to name. Madden was fantastic though when he came on and looked the player we all know is in there. Again Thomas Galligan had a massive second half and is a total warrior no matter where he is played. Gearoid won some ball. Throughout the second half in fact all the lads operating around the middle put their bodies on the line and dominated possession. As I said too many to mention and I could name many more. Defence were excellent second half but special mention has to go to Padraig Faulkner who was a colossus throughout. He is the epitome of what you want a player to be- strong, brave to a fault, quick to read danger, never say die attitude and massive engine. And he's got great footballing ability too.
Onto the final. I am a huge fan of this Donegal team and it's hard to see where they are weak. If we are to make a game of it, it will take one gigantic collective effort. I worry we have a few weak links that we cannot afford against a team like them and some of our starters yesterday wouldn't be anywhere near their panel. As much as there are individual battles anymore, we will need to win at least 5 to keep it respectable. Anything after that who knows. Our defence is a big worry though and Donegal should have too much pace and power for us so hard to know how to setup. Packing the midfield too much would leave us very short up front and invite Donegal onto us. Not sure it would work defensively against them anyway so Mikey will have to find the mother of all rabbits and a hat to hold it for next week if we are to have our showdown with Meath first week of December!!!
In any event it's great to be in a final again and a great tonic after our final two league games. Hopefully we learn from last year and a few more of the lads show up this time and give it a good rattle. No passengers! Good luck to all.
P.S nice to see our record alive for another 19 years at least.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on November 16, 2020, 06:37:56 PM
Don't we now avoid the B Championship next year as a result of making the final too?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Look-Up! on November 16, 2020, 06:49:50 PM
Not sure. Think we'd have to win it this year or get to final next year?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dreadnought on November 17, 2020, 08:43:12 AM
Quote from: Itchy on November 16, 2020, 06:37:56 PM
Don't we now avoid the B Championship next year as a result of making the final too?

I think the rule was the league placings at the end of the 2020 league would determine the B Championship placings. Obviously it hasn't happened this year due to Covid, so there's no B Championship for us to avoid. I'm not sure if it resets next season, does the B Championship take the placings again at the end of 2021 League? If so, then we could be back in main championship if we get promoted from Division 3, but who knows as this year has been weird. They'll need to clarify.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Look-Up! on November 20, 2020, 03:01:45 PM
Big day getting closer now and can feel the butterflies starting.
Reading around, no one outside Cavan is realistically giving us a chance. All the experts don't rate us, period. Most other counties fans admire us for getting this far, that's about the height of it. Some Donegal fans are extremely cocky and fully expect a tame workout for their team and then a nice injury free break before their big showdown with the Jones Road Globetrotters. I say some, of course most of them are typical Donegal people, polite and respectful, and talk about Cavan's tradition, expect tough battle, no Ulster easy bla bla bla. But realistically their Ulster final was Tyrone once Monaghan were dumped out, and deep down a loss to Cavan would be unspeakable.
Obviously all this is for very good reason but it's setup for a major upset. Great team as they are and competitive as their squad is, hopefully a bit of this mindset seeps in. We'll need to be on our game from the off and bring a level of intensity they are not expecting. Team selection will be vital too and whatever about having options from the bench later on, we cannot afford some of the passengers we have had starting so far. It's gonna take a monster collective effort for the whole 70mins but if we let them settle for the first 10 then I don't think it's doable.
So here's hoping and wishing all the best of luck. I think we have a talented team, should have learned from last year, and hope whoever plays a part Sunday leaves everything, and I mean EVERYTHING on the field and give these Donegal boys a good kick up the arse. That's more important than the result!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on November 23, 2020, 01:11:30 PM
This thread was started in 2006. 14 years later, we captured the big one.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Onthe40 on November 23, 2020, 01:22:46 PM
Quote from: Look-Up! on November 20, 2020, 03:01:45 PM
Big day getting closer now and can feel the butterflies starting.
Reading around, no one outside Cavan is realistically giving us a chance. All the experts don't rate us, period. Most other counties fans admire us for getting this far, that's about the height of it. Some Donegal fans are extremely cocky and fully expect a tame workout for their team and then a nice injury free break before their big showdown with the Jones Road Globetrotters. I say some, of course most of them are typical Donegal people, polite and respectful, and talk about Cavan's tradition, expect tough battle, no Ulster easy bla bla bla. But realistically their Ulster final was Tyrone once Monaghan were dumped out, and deep down a loss to Cavan would be unspeakable.
Obviously all this is for very good reason but it's setup for a major upset. Great team as they are and competitive as their squad is, hopefully a bit of this mindset seeps in. We'll need to be on our game from the off and bring a level of intensity they are not expecting. Team selection will be vital too and whatever about having options from the bench later on, we cannot afford some of the passengers we have had starting so far. It's gonna take a monster collective effort for the whole 70mins but if we let them settle for the first 10 then I don't think it's doable.

it wad doable alright,, everything that was said in this piece that had to happen, happened for Cavan.. deadly stuff...
So here's hoping and wishing all the best of luck. I think we have a talented team, should have learned from last year, and hope whoever plays a part Sunday leaves everything, and I mean EVERYTHING on the field and give these Donegal boys a good kick up the arse. That's more important than the result!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Onthe40 on November 23, 2020, 01:23:31 PM
it was doable alright,, everything that was said in this piece that had to happen, happened for Cavan.. deadly stuff...
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Look-Up! on November 23, 2020, 02:37:22 PM
Absolutely incredible performance yesterday. Those lads have made the county immensely immensely proud. There were no weak links, each one to a man performed heroically and even 2nd half when you're thinking we might need to freshen things up, hand on heart I couldn't name a player who I thought needed to come off. I can't remember a more complete performance from a Cavan team. Very emotional scenes at the end, hard not to be affected by it all. Enjoy the next few days, let it all sink in, then we can focus back to championship matters.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on November 23, 2020, 04:27:54 PM
Mickey didn't put anyone on today that couldn't compete physically. Conor Smith was probably the lad with the least amount of conditioning. It showed at times but he did win a few balls and held his own. Everyone else was fit for the pace and power of Donegal. Ruthless and smart by Mickey Graham.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on November 24, 2020, 11:01:34 AM
Only just started to compose myself after that win. I had a suspicion, an inkling, one I was almost afraid to express that there was something big going to come from Cavan on Sunday. But what a performance. Aggression, bravery and a frantic work rate that clearly caught Donegal out. So many heros around the field, so many players that did big things at key times in the game. James Smiths 2nd point, his spectacular mark. Thomas Galligans mark at the end, his refusal to lie down. Jason picking murphys pocket. Raymond making saves. Conroys block. Gearoids bravery to stick a long ball into the mixer instead of playing keep ball. I could go on and on. We owe these players a huge debt of gratitude for all they have done.

Mickey Graham, what do you say. It is hard to believe 4 weeks ago some idiots were looking for him to be sacked (now they are a particularly dim bunch of idiots over on hoganstand, granted). He was done something that has never been done before and will probably never be done again. He has managed a team to Ulster victory from the preliminary round, 4 games in 4 weeks. Astonishing. Adding that to his success in Mullinanaughta means Mickey has to be considered one of the top managers in the country. We need to hold onto this man at all costs.

I think a huge thanks is also due to players and coaches and mentors that soldiered for so many years and missed out. Moynagh and McVitty hopefully will be back and get their chance again. Mackey, very sad for him to miss out. People like Hyland and McCarthy that did such incredible work built the foundations for this triumph. There are loads of others.

Next up the Dubs. I'd love to see them took out of Croke Park. They have all the advantages going. If we want to win and not just have a day out I say get the game to Armagh and lets give it another rattle. Cavan should request a Neutral venue to give us the best chance to win, however I am sure such thoughts are a million miles away from the minds of decision makers in Croke Park.

Finally, I really hope we have learned from 97. After that win we lost our manager. We lost the entire spine of the team to retirement shortly after - King, Damien Reilly, Morris, Ciaran Brady, Cahill etc. I hope Mickey can convince lads to stick together so we can build momentum and stay at the top. It will be a failure in my mind if 20 years later we have no Ulsters or other trophies to back this up.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on November 24, 2020, 10:40:28 PM
Watched the BBC coverage of the game today. Realised how much of an impact Oisin Kiernan had. I always thought he floated around the edges of games but he's really getting stuck in now. He won ball in our full back line and kicked a couple of scores, the second of which was an audacious score at the most vital point in the game. He showed it in the club championship and he showed it again Sunday; he's a clutch player.

Itchy I was only thinking yesterday about what lessons can be learned from 97. I really hope Martin Reilly and Gearoid can give it a couple more years and let the younger lads grow in their slipstream before they exit.
You would hope that because of the condensed championship this year that lads might not be mentally drained and could ride this wave of positivity into the league next year.
Nothing can be taken for granted in Div 3 (ask Cork, Down etc) but lads could be looking at that Division as there for the taking if they give it the respect it deserves. Another title to go for without the suffocating need to win a medal, any medal, at senior level. That monkey is off their backs now. 

The age profile is decent in the squad and hopefully we won't have any lads in their prime hanging up their boots. If McVeety or Moynagh return and want to be involved they would undoubtedly strengthen things but if not, they will no longer be pined after. But the thought of a McVeety and Thomas Galligan full forward line is a tasty prospect.. I would love to see the two lads come back into the fold and complete the set of medals.

Mickey it seems, knows his business. Looking forward to see if he can bring through the likes of Caoimhin McGovern, Oisin Brady and develop Stephen Smith and Cormac Reilly and Oisin Pierson into players capable of leading the line for Cavan.

Sunday has changed Cavan football for this generation. I really hope that once the celebrations die down, the powers that be are sitting down to decide how to build on this.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: marty34 on November 24, 2020, 11:29:31 PM
Quote from: Itchy on November 24, 2020, 11:01:34 AM
Only just started to compose myself after that win. I had a suspicion, an inkling, one I was almost afraid to express that there was something big going to come from Cavan on Sunday. But what a performance. Aggression, bravery and a frantic work rate that clearly caught Donegal out. So many heros around the field, so many players that did big things at key times in the game. James Smiths 2nd point, his spectacular mark. Thomas Galligans mark at the end, his refusal to lie down. Jason picking murphys pocket. Raymond making saves. Conroys block. Gearoids bravery to stick a long ball into the mixer instead of playing keep ball. I could go on and on. We owe these players a huge debt of gratitude for all they have done.

Mickey Graham, what do you say. It is hard to believe 4 weeks ago some idiots were looking for him to be sacked (now they are a particularly dim bunch of idiots over on hoganstand, granted). He was done something that has never been done before and will probably never be done again. He has managed a team to Ulster victory from the preliminary round, 4 games in 4 weeks. Astonishing. Adding that to his success in Mullinanaughta means Mickey has to be considered one of the top managers in the country. We need to hold onto this man at all costs.

I think a huge thanks is also due to players and coaches and mentors that soldiered for so many years and missed out. Moynagh and McVitty hopefully will be back and get their chance again. Mackey, very sad for him to miss out. People like Hyland and McCarthy that did such incredible work built the foundations for this triumph. There are loads of others.

Next up the Dubs. I'd love to see them took out of Croke Park. They have all the advantages going. If we want to win and not just have a day out I say get the game to Armagh and lets give it another rattle. Cavan should request a Neutral venue to give us the best chance to win, however I am sure such thoughts are a million miles away from the minds of decision makers in Croke Park.

Finally, I really hope we have learned from 97. After that win we lost our manager. We lost the entire spine of the team to retirement shortly after - King, Damien Reilly, Morris, Ciaran Brady, Cahill etc. I hope Mickey can convince lads to stick together so we can build momentum and stay at the top. It will be a failure in my mind if 20 years later we have no Ulsters or other trophies to back this up.

Itchy, how many of this team/panel would have come from the 4 U21 teams a while back?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Cavan19 on November 25, 2020, 09:29:14 AM
Quote from: marty34 on November 24, 2020, 11:29:31 PM
Quote from: Itchy on November 24, 2020, 11:01:34 AM
Only just started to compose myself after that win. I had a suspicion, an inkling, one I was almost afraid to express that there was something big going to come from Cavan on Sunday. But what a performance. Aggression, bravery and a frantic work rate that clearly caught Donegal out. So many heros around the field, so many players that did big things at key times in the game. James Smiths 2nd point, his spectacular mark. Thomas Galligans mark at the end, his refusal to lie down. Jason picking murphys pocket. Raymond making saves. Conroys block. Gearoids bravery to stick a long ball into the mixer instead of playing keep ball. I could go on and on. We owe these players a huge debt of gratitude for all they have done.

Mickey Graham, what do you say. It is hard to believe 4 weeks ago some idiots were looking for him to be sacked (now they are a particularly dim bunch of idiots over on hoganstand, granted). He was done something that has never been done before and will probably never be done again. He has managed a team to Ulster victory from the preliminary round, 4 games in 4 weeks. Astonishing. Adding that to his success in Mullinanaughta means Mickey has to be considered one of the top managers in the country. We need to hold onto this man at all costs.

I think a huge thanks is also due to players and coaches and mentors that soldiered for so many years and missed out. Moynagh and McVitty hopefully will be back and get their chance again. Mackey, very sad for him to miss out. People like Hyland and McCarthy that did such incredible work built the foundations for this triumph. There are loads of others.

Next up the Dubs. I'd love to see them took out of Croke Park. They have all the advantages going. If we want to win and not just have a day out I say get the game to Armagh and lets give it another rattle. Cavan should request a Neutral venue to give us the best chance to win, however I am sure such thoughts are a million miles away from the minds of decision makers in Croke Park.

Finally, I really hope we have learned from 97. After that win we lost our manager. We lost the entire spine of the team to retirement shortly after - King, Damien Reilly, Morris, Ciaran Brady, Cahill etc. I hope Mickey can convince lads to stick together so we can build momentum and stay at the top. It will be a failure in my mind if 20 years later we have no Ulsters or other trophies to back this up.

Itchy, how many of this team/panel would have come from the 4 U21 teams a while back?

I think 6 of them now have Ulster Minor, U-21 and Senior medals and McVitty and Moynagh would have been in that group as well.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on November 25, 2020, 10:37:02 AM
McLoughlin, Clarke, Killian Brady, Padraig Faulkner, Gerry Smith, Ciaran Brady, Gearoid McKiernan, Chris Conroy, Niall Murray, Conor Madden and Paul Graham have all played in this year's championship and have one or more U21 medals and some have a minor medal from 2011.
Luke Fortune, T Galligan and T.E.D have MacRory Cup medals.
Liam Buchannan was an unused substitute and has U21 and Minor medals.
Oisin Pierson, Cormac Timoney and James Smith would both have played in an Ulster Final and All Ireland Semi-Final at Minor level.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on November 25, 2020, 11:57:19 AM
Quote from: Westside on November 25, 2020, 10:37:02 AM
McLoughlin, Clarke, Killian Brady, Padraig Faulkner, Gerry Smith, Ciaran Brady, Gearoid McKiernan, Chris Conroy, Niall Murray, Conor Madden and Paul Graham have all played in this year's championship and have one or more U21 medals and some have a minor medal from 2011.
Luke Fortune, T Galligan and T.E.D have MacRory Cup medals.
Liam Buchannan was an unused substitute and has U21 and Minor medals.
Oisin Pierson, Cormac Timoney and James Smith would both have played in an Ulster Final and All Ireland Semi-Final at Minor level.

Was McLoughlin on one of the U21 teams, he definetly wasnt on the minor team.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: five points on November 25, 2020, 12:10:37 PM
Quote from: Itchy on November 25, 2020, 11:57:19 AM

Was McLoughlin on one of the U21 teams, he definetly wasnt on the minor team.

He was on at least the first 2 winning U21 teams in 2011 & 2012.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on November 25, 2020, 02:15:23 PM
You are right, I always though Jason was a bit older.  I checked it out, here are the teams that played t he finals in those 4 years...

2011
A O'Mara; M Leddy, O Minagh, D Tighe, K Meehan, D Barkey, M Brady, G McKiernan [0-2], F Flanagan, N Smith, N Murray [1-0], B Reilly [0-2], J Brady [0-4], N McDermott, P Leddy. Subs: T Mooney for Tighe, P King [0-2] for M Leddy, C McClarey for Smith, C Smith for McDermott, D Flanagan for Reilly

2012
C Gilsenan, F Flanagan, K Brady, J McLoughlin, D Sexton (1-0, pen), C Moynagh, M Brady, P Leddy, K Clarke, J Dillon (0-1), C Conroy, R Lynch (0-1), J Brady (0-3, 2f), K Tierney (0-5, 5f), N O'Donnell.
Subs: P King for Brady, B Reilly for Dillon, S Nolan for Conroy, PP O'Hara for Reilly

2013
Conor Gilsenan (Bailieborough); Jason McLoughlin (Shannon Gaels), Killian Clarke (Shercock), Ciaran Brady (Arva); Daragh McVeety (Crosserlough), Daragh Sexton (Cavan Gaels), Feargal Flanagan (Butlersbridge); Brian Sankey (Shercock), Michael Argue (Bailieborough); Gerry Smith (Lavey), Chris Conroy (Lavey), Turloc Mooney (Redhills); Enda O'Reilly (Mullahoran), Paul O'Connor (Cavan Gaels), Jack Brady (Ramor Utd).
Subs: Chris Madden for Conroy, Paul Graham for Mooney.

2014
J Farrelly; B Fortune, K Clarke, P Faulkner; G Smith, C Moynagh, C Brady; L Buchanan, M Argue; P Graham, E Flanagan, A Watson; D McVetty, K Bouchier, J Dillon
Subs: A O'Hara for Moynagh (BC, 22), T Hayes for Bouchier (40), E Hession for Flanagan (47)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mrdeeds on November 25, 2020, 07:25:43 PM
I'm still on cloud nine but it's beginning to sink in. I'm now actually thinking about the Dublin game and trying to do match ups in my head and wondering what tactical approach we need to take.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: redzone on November 25, 2020, 07:42:52 PM
Jesus but mcveety will be sick. What was he thinking, he would have been winning captain for his club.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on November 25, 2020, 11:15:36 PM
Tough on Dara but them's the breaks. There's more to life than football and I'd say he's had a great year travelling which will hopefully take the sting out of not being there. This squad has lots of time for more silverware and if he comes back into the fold he'll be a welcome addition, a beast of player. Hopefully he will complete his set of Ulster medals and get a Senior Championship medal too before his day is done.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: armaghniac on November 26, 2020, 01:07:19 PM
Quote from: Westside on November 25, 2020, 11:15:36 PM
There's more to life than football and I'd say he's had a great year travelling

I can't think of a year less suitable for travelling.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on November 26, 2020, 02:08:47 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on November 26, 2020, 01:07:19 PM
Quote from: Westside on November 25, 2020, 11:15:36 PM
There's more to life than football and I'd say he's had a great year travelling

I can't think of a year less suitable for travelling.

The two boys were in Australia when it all kicked off.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on November 27, 2020, 09:53:25 AM
Quote from: Itchy on November 26, 2020, 02:08:47 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on November 26, 2020, 01:07:19 PM
Quote from: Westside on November 25, 2020, 11:15:36 PM
There's more to life than football and I'd say he's had a great year travelling

I can't think of a year less suitable for travelling.

The two boys were in Australia when it all kicked off.

And they had already been travelling for months at that stage.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Look-Up! on November 29, 2020, 01:26:10 PM
I think at this stage the county is starting to come down now from the highs of last week and focus now on the juggernaut that is Dublin.
Personally I'm looking forward to it and am confident we will give a good account of ourselves.
This group of lads have improved game by game and good and all as they were against Donegal I think there is scope for more improvement. I think we have shown we have plenty of power and aggression and a great team spirit forged over the last few games. We need to work on shot selection and execution, maybe a bit more discipline in defence too but Rome wasn't built in a day.
So onto the Dubs. Not a lot to say about them that hasn't already been said. They are a level above anyone at the moment and every player plays to the maximum. Mentally they can push players to places where they don't want to be and most give up and tap out. But begging for mercy is futile as Meath found out. This Dublin team doesn't do mercy, they will rub your face in it.
So it's going to be very uncomfortable for us for large periods next Saturday but it's very important we draw a line in the sand and dig in. There's no point getting hung up on the scoreboard either. We need to stay as a unit, work our balls off for each other, stay invested in the game and make the hard yards whether it be tracking the runners or covering for lads caught out of position. No such thing as a lost cause. The performance is the most important thing and we need to deliver for 70 mins regardless of what the score line is. Here's hoping and wishing all the best of luck and looking forward to seeing a performance from this Cavan team that will stand them for years to come.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on December 06, 2020, 10:56:18 AM
Ain't no disgrace there. Better team won. 
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on December 06, 2020, 01:17:08 PM
Quote from: Denn Forever on December 06, 2020, 10:56:18 AM
Ain't no disgrace there. Better team won.

I wouldnt use the term disgrace but I was a little disappointed with our display, mostly in the first half. The second half the Dubs superior S&C, athleticism and power were always going to move them away from us. We coughed up at least 4 points due to just really poor unforced errors and that's something we didn't do against Donegal. So I think we were a little below our performance in the Ulster final but up against a far superior team than Donegal.

I do think Ciaran Brady was brilliant and put his hand up there for an All Star, Same with Ray Galligan. Thomas Galligan might not be the cert everyone thought he was through no fault of his own, as he was left at FF where he got no decent supply. Thought it was very unfair of SKY to show his stats versus Fenton. Sure they might as well of compared Ray Galligan to Fenton. Thomas was not competing against him. I think we might get 2 All Stars, 3 a big stretch.

So once the Dubs wipe the floor with whoever they get in the final, our boys can see that they did rightly in that game and can be seriously proud of what they achieved. Winning Ulster from the preliminary round, 4 weeks in a row and beating 2 Division 1 team along the way is fair going. Next we really need to get out of Div 3 right away cos you need to be playing better standards of teams if you want to stay at the top. I also hope that some of the lads that are soldiering for a long time like martin reilly and Gearoid give it another year or two before hanging up their boots.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: marty34 on December 06, 2020, 02:25:30 PM
Quote from: Itchy on December 06, 2020, 01:17:08 PM
Quote from: Denn Forever on December 06, 2020, 10:56:18 AM
Ain't no disgrace there. Better team won.

I wouldnt use the term disgrace but I was a little disappointed with our display, mostly in the first half. The second half the Dubs superior S&C, athleticism and power were always going to move them away from us. We coughed up at least 4 points due to just really poor unforced errors and that's something we didn't do against Donegal. So I think we were a little below our performance in the Ulster final but up against a far superior team than Donegal.

I do think Ciaran Brady was brilliant and put his hand up there for an All Star, Same with Ray Galligan. Thomas Galligan might not be the cert everyone thought he was through no fault of his own, as he was left at FF where he got no decent supply. Thought it was very unfair of SKY to show his stats versus Fenton. Sure they might as well of compared Ray Galligan to Fenton. Thomas was not competing against him. I think we might get 2 All Stars, 3 a big stretch.

So once the Dubs wipe the floor with whoever they get in the final, our boys can see that they did rightly in that game and can be seriously proud of what they achieved. Winning Ulster from the preliminary round, 4 weeks in a row and beating 2 Division 1 team along the way is fair going. Next we really need to get out of Div 3 right away cos you need to be playing better standards of teams if you want to stay at the top. I also hope that some of the lads that are soldiering for a long time like martin reilly and Gearoid give it another year or two before hanging up their boots.

Fair points.

Cavan carried the ball into tackles a lot and got coughed up and  quickly punished at the other end.

In hindsight, apart from league, it's been a good year for Cavan.  Need to get promotion next year to keep things going.  Could be trickier than you think though.  Everybody will have their number now.

Next year will be a biiger year and questions will be asked.  We'll see how Cavan respond.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on December 06, 2020, 07:54:24 PM
Thomas Galligan probably needed a better performance yesterday to get his All Star. Wasn't his fault though really, poor supply and isolated in a full forward line that the ball wasn't being let into. He should still get one based on the Ulster Championship. He's played 5 games and been outstanding in 4 of them, that's more than Mayo will play this year. It should be himself and Ray IMO. I think Ray's performance yesterday sealed his All Star. Wouldn't be surprised to see Ray and Faulkner pick them up.

League very important next year. Need to keep Gearoid, Martin Reilly and Ray Galligan. Hopefully nobody younger will opt out. If we can back up that Ulster Championship with a league title, even if it's Division 3, it will be a big boost.
Am I right in saying we will be playing Longford, Fermanagh and Derry? That won't be simple...
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Look-Up! on December 07, 2020, 10:55:37 AM
Ok performance. Some of the lads were outstanding most notably Holla and Faulkner. Kick outs were excellent. In fairness a good few of our lads played well. A few more held their own. There were a couple who were off the speed of how Dublin operate, no shame in that. A few of our lads hid though for whatever reason and against a team like Dublin you absolutely cannot afford passengers.
We competed as best we could for long spells but Dublin were patient, brought us out to deeper water and eventually we succumbed. Death by a thousand cuts is a phrase I've heard mentioned. I think it's pretty apt.
One thing however that I was bitterly disappointed in was panel selection and substitutions. How can a lad who hasn't been involved show up once on final training session and not only remove a player who has worked their socks off all year from the 26, but to then be brought on against Dublin when they clearly weren't fit to walk. That final substitution was effectively like a red card for us at a time when we were out on our feet and needed fresh legs and energy. Absolutely disgraceful. All this talk of moral and team building, I'd be surprised to see Buchanan in a blue jersey again. A few more who deserved a run for their hard work and play all year must also be scratching their heads. Club politics has no business on an IC setup!!!!!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on December 07, 2020, 03:15:56 PM
Final substitution was Stephen Smith or did I miss one?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Look-Up! on December 07, 2020, 07:06:29 PM
Substitution with 15 to go.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on December 08, 2020, 08:59:14 AM
Quote from: Look-Up! on December 07, 2020, 07:06:29 PM
Substitution with 15 to go.

You talking about Niall Murray?

Sure Niall came on in every game in the Ulster Championship I think. Not sure what your gripe with that is. If the lad was part of the panel and is injured he is still part of the panel and for a fella that couldnt walk he made a superb block at one point against the Dubs.

Anyway, for me Mickey Graham has earned the stripes to do whatever he thinks is right and supporters should surely be trusting his judgement know, given that he has got us to  2 ulster finals in a row and won one. I would also point out to you that he even dropped his own brother from the 26 man panel so it is hard to argue there is some sort of club bias going on. I am sure Liam Buchanan and some others are disappointed but lets be honest, a big lad like him is not suited to Croke park against the Dubs. He has a way to go with his fitness which he had lost control of. He will stick at it and get there I am sure.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Cavan19 on December 08, 2020, 12:16:26 PM
Quote from: Look-Up! on December 07, 2020, 07:06:29 PM
Substitution with 15 to go.

Why can you not just come out and say it ?

I presume it is Conor Brady he is on about.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on December 08, 2020, 01:14:19 PM
Quote from: Cavan19 on December 08, 2020, 12:16:26 PM
Quote from: Look-Up! on December 07, 2020, 07:06:29 PM
Substitution with 15 to go.

Why can you not just come out and say it ?

I presume it is Conor Brady he is on about.

Well Niall came on after 46 minutes I think so maybe you are right.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Look-Up! on December 08, 2020, 09:49:35 PM
Quote from: Cavan19 on December 08, 2020, 12:16:26 PM
Quote from: Look-Up! on December 07, 2020, 07:06:29 PM
Substitution with 15 to go.

Why can you not just come out and say it ?

I presume it is Conor Brady he is on about.
It's not a personal attack on the lad, if you're picked you of course are going to accept but he was clearly way off the pace. I think the team folded after that and Dublin easily walked down through the middle. They were other options that could have given us more energy at that time. Even dropping someone like Galligan back and putting another forward on. And I don't agree on Buchanan letting his fitness go. He has put in huge work this year and is visibly in great shape. I'm not saying he should have been put on but he at least deserved to keep his place in the 26 and would have been a better option than the one they went with. Lads are not stupid. I think Graham has done a great job this year but I wonder how much of that decision was his.   
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on December 08, 2020, 10:43:12 PM
Quote from: Look-Up! on December 08, 2020, 09:49:35 PM
Quote from: Cavan19 on December 08, 2020, 12:16:26 PM
Quote from: Look-Up! on December 07, 2020, 07:06:29 PM
Substitution with 15 to go.

Why can you not just come out and say it ?

I presume it is Conor Brady he is on about.
It's not a personal attack on the lad, if you're picked you of course are going to accept but he was clearly way off the pace. I think the team folded after that and Dublin easily walked down through the middle. They were other options that could have given us more energy at that time. Even dropping someone like Galligan back and putting another forward on. And I don't agree on Buchanan letting his fitness go. He has put in huge work this year and is visibly in great shape. I'm not saying he should have been put on but he at least deserved to keep his place in the 26 and would have been a better option than the one they went with. Lads are not stupid. I think Graham has done a great job this year but I wonder how much of that decision was his.

How do you know what Buchanan "deserved" or anyone else on the panel. We don't get to see whats going on at training and Liam hasn't played 1 minute of championship football this year. He has done massive work on fitness, 100% agree but he started from a long way behind. I'd say he needed this year and next year could be his yr. I hope he sticks at it. There's bound to be lots of fellas upset with mickey choices, I wouldn't be happy if they weren't but quiting is the old cavan. The new cavan doesn't do quiting.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on December 09, 2020, 11:13:05 AM
I think if I were Mickey there is one other thing I would like to get ticked off the bucket list is to win silverware in Croke park. We have been in a Div 3 final and 2 x Div 2 finals and lost them all. I think Div 3 this year has to offer us a chance to win a final there and that would get that monkey off our back. I see no reason why we couldnt do that. Second thing is to try and convince your Martin Reillys, Ray Galligan and Gearoid McKiernans etc to stick with the team for another year. At all cost we need to avoid what happened in 97, we have some good young players but they will not succeed without experienced players in the camp to help them. Obviously Keeping Mickey and Andre Quinn especially is very important for continuity. Mickey being a Cavan man I am sure is going nowhere, Andre Quinn could be in big demand. For first time in a long time we look to be making S&C progress it would be criminal to break the continuity we have there.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Look-Up! on December 09, 2020, 02:04:29 PM
Quote from: Itchy on December 08, 2020, 10:43:12 PM
Quote from: Look-Up! on December 08, 2020, 09:49:35 PM
Quote from: Cavan19 on December 08, 2020, 12:16:26 PM
Quote from: Look-Up! on December 07, 2020, 07:06:29 PM
Substitution with 15 to go.

Why can you not just come out and say it ?

I presume it is Conor Brady he is on about.
It's not a personal attack on the lad, if you're picked you of course are going to accept but he was clearly way off the pace. I think the team folded after that and Dublin easily walked down through the middle. They were other options that could have given us more energy at that time. Even dropping someone like Galligan back and putting another forward on. And I don't agree on Buchanan letting his fitness go. He has put in huge work this year and is visibly in great shape. I'm not saying he should have been put on but he at least deserved to keep his place in the 26 and would have been a better option than the one they went with. Lads are not stupid. I think Graham has done a great job this year but I wonder how much of that decision was his.

How do you know what Buchanan "deserved" or anyone else on the panel. We don't get to see whats going on at training and Liam hasn't played 1 minute of championship football this year. He has done massive work on fitness, 100% agree but he started from a long way behind. I'd say he needed this year and next year could be his yr. I hope he sticks at it. There's bound to be lots of fellas upset with mickey choices, I wouldn't be happy if they weren't but quiting is the old cavan. The new cavan doesn't do quiting.
Liam Buchanan has played more football than Conor Brady all year plus he has trained and been part of squad all through 2nd phase and Ulster campaign. Brady's first and only training session was just before Dublin match. You talk of the old Cavan, that's the type of BS that has happened all too often in the past. There was absolutely no justifiable reason to do this and start f*&^*&g around with a squad that has just won Ulster and rocking the boat. If it was an all star coming back who pulled up trees for the team in the past then fair enough but this was certainly not the case.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on December 09, 2020, 04:53:07 PM
Quote from: Look-Up! on December 09, 2020, 02:04:29 PM
Quote from: Itchy on December 08, 2020, 10:43:12 PM
Quote from: Look-Up! on December 08, 2020, 09:49:35 PM
Quote from: Cavan19 on December 08, 2020, 12:16:26 PM
Quote from: Look-Up! on December 07, 2020, 07:06:29 PM
Substitution with 15 to go.

Why can you not just come out and say it ?

I presume it is Conor Brady he is on about.
It's not a personal attack on the lad, if you're picked you of course are going to accept but he was clearly way off the pace. I think the team folded after that and Dublin easily walked down through the middle. They were other options that could have given us more energy at that time. Even dropping someone like Galligan back and putting another forward on. And I don't agree on Buchanan letting his fitness go. He has put in huge work this year and is visibly in great shape. I'm not saying he should have been put on but he at least deserved to keep his place in the 26 and would have been a better option than the one they went with. Lads are not stupid. I think Graham has done a great job this year but I wonder how much of that decision was his.

How do you know what Buchanan "deserved" or anyone else on the panel. We don't get to see whats going on at training and Liam hasn't played 1 minute of championship football this year. He has done massive work on fitness, 100% agree but he started from a long way behind. I'd say he needed this year and next year could be his yr. I hope he sticks at it. There's bound to be lots of fellas upset with mickey choices, I wouldn't be happy if they weren't but quiting is the old cavan. The new cavan doesn't do quiting.
Liam Buchanan has played more football than Conor Brady all year plus he has trained and been part of squad all through 2nd phase and Ulster campaign. Brady's first and only training session was just before Dublin match. You talk of the old Cavan, that's the type of BS that has happened all too often in the past. There was absolutely no justifiable reason to do this and start f*&^*&g around with a squad that has just won Ulster and rocking the boat. If it was an all star coming back who pulled up trees for the team in the past then fair enough but this was certainly not the case.

Well I am not on the panel so I dont know. However you accused the management of bias to certain clubs which doesn't stack up when you see Graham drop his own brother. I don't know the rights and wrongs of it and I have no inside information but I am willing to trust the manager on his decisions, even if they look odd from the outside looking in.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Look-Up! on December 09, 2020, 07:28:26 PM
Looking at our performance for the last 15 minutes I would use a stronger term than odd for the decision.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Cavan19 on December 11, 2020, 10:06:01 AM
Quote from: Look-Up! on December 09, 2020, 07:28:26 PM
Looking at our performance for the last 15 minutes I would use a stronger term than odd for the decision.

Some things work and some don't.

Mangers make calls and some things work and some don't. They got a lot of things right this championship but they also got plenty wrong.  It seems to be bothering you i would advise you to forget about it as it's not a decision that cost us the game.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Look-Up! on December 12, 2020, 02:22:46 PM
Quote from: Cavan19 on December 11, 2020, 10:06:01 AM
Quote from: Look-Up! on December 09, 2020, 07:28:26 PM
Looking at our performance for the last 15 minutes I would use a stronger term than odd for the decision.

Some things work and some don't.

Mangers make calls and some things work and some don't. They got a lot of things right this championship but they also got plenty wrong.  It seems to be bothering you i would advise you to forget about it as it's not a decision that cost us the game.
It's a discussion thread about Cavan football where people give opinions. It's true for every manager past and present where some things work and don't, but are we only allowed to discuss some things and not others?
I never said it cost the game. We've had a great year and one to build on but decisions like this don't fill me with confidence and leaves a bad taste in the mouth when we should be buzzing for next year.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: reillycavan on December 13, 2020, 10:59:56 PM
Please god Moynagh and McVeety return to Cavan  set up next year.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Cavan19 on December 14, 2020, 09:54:57 AM
Quote from: Look-Up! on December 12, 2020, 02:22:46 PM
Quote from: Cavan19 on December 11, 2020, 10:06:01 AM
Quote from: Look-Up! on December 09, 2020, 07:28:26 PM
Looking at our performance for the last 15 minutes I would use a stronger term than odd for the decision.

Some things work and some don't.

Mangers make calls and some things work and some don't. They got a lot of things right this championship but they also got plenty wrong.  It seems to be bothering you i would advise you to forget about it as it's not a decision that cost us the game.
It's a discussion thread about Cavan football where people give opinions. It's true for every manager past and present where some things work and don't, but are we only allowed to discuss some things and not others?
I never said it cost the game. We've had a great year and one to build on but decisions like this don't fill me with confidence and leaves a bad taste in the mouth when we should be buzzing for next year.

You are the only person either on a forum online or from the many i have been talking to about the game who has even mentioned this. Havent even seen it on Hoganstand and there a plenty there who stick the knife in when given the chance.  Is there a personal element to your grievance?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Look-Up! on December 14, 2020, 01:40:15 PM
Quote from: Cavan19 on December 14, 2020, 09:54:57 AM
Quote from: Look-Up! on December 12, 2020, 02:22:46 PM
Quote from: Cavan19 on December 11, 2020, 10:06:01 AM
Quote from: Look-Up! on December 09, 2020, 07:28:26 PM
Looking at our performance for the last 15 minutes I would use a stronger term than odd for the decision.

Some things work and some don't.

Mangers make calls and some things work and some don't. They got a lot of things right this championship but they also got plenty wrong.  It seems to be bothering you i would advise you to forget about it as it's not a decision that cost us the game.
It's a discussion thread about Cavan football where people give opinions. It's true for every manager past and present where some things work and don't, but are we only allowed to discuss some things and not others?
I never said it cost the game. We've had a great year and one to build on but decisions like this don't fill me with confidence and leaves a bad taste in the mouth when we should be buzzing for next year.

You are the only person either on a forum online or from the many i have been talking to about the game who has even mentioned this. Havent even seen it on Hoganstand and there a plenty there who stick the knife in when given the chance.  Is there a personal element to your grievance?
I've spoken to plenty who aren't happy with decision.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Cavan19 on December 14, 2020, 01:55:28 PM
Quote from: Look-Up! on December 14, 2020, 01:40:15 PM
Quote from: Cavan19 on December 14, 2020, 09:54:57 AM
Quote from: Look-Up! on December 12, 2020, 02:22:46 PM
Quote from: Cavan19 on December 11, 2020, 10:06:01 AM
Quote from: Look-Up! on December 09, 2020, 07:28:26 PM
Looking at our performance for the last 15 minutes I would use a stronger term than odd for the decision.

Some things work and some don't.

Mangers make calls and some things work and some don't. They got a lot of things right this championship but they also got plenty wrong.  It seems to be bothering you i would advise you to forget about it as it's not a decision that cost us the game.
It's a discussion thread about Cavan football where people give opinions. It's true for every manager past and present where some things work and don't, but are we only allowed to discuss some things and not others?
I never said it cost the game. We've had a great year and one to build on but decisions like this don't fill me with confidence and leaves a bad taste in the mouth when we should be buzzing for next year.

You are the only person either on a forum online or from the many i have been talking to about the game who has even mentioned this. Havent even seen it on Hoganstand and there a plenty there who stick the knife in when given the chance.  Is there a personal element to your grievance?
I've spoken to plenty who aren't happy with decision.

Is there a personal element to your grievance, what club are you from?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Look-Up! on December 14, 2020, 02:29:58 PM
Quote from: Cavan19 on December 14, 2020, 01:55:28 PM
Quote from: Look-Up! on December 14, 2020, 01:40:15 PM
Quote from: Cavan19 on December 14, 2020, 09:54:57 AM
Quote from: Look-Up! on December 12, 2020, 02:22:46 PM
Quote from: Cavan19 on December 11, 2020, 10:06:01 AM
Quote from: Look-Up! on December 09, 2020, 07:28:26 PM
Looking at our performance for the last 15 minutes I would use a stronger term than odd for the decision.

Some things work and some don't.

Mangers make calls and some things work and some don't. They got a lot of things right this championship but they also got plenty wrong.  It seems to be bothering you i would advise you to forget about it as it's not a decision that cost us the game.
It's a discussion thread about Cavan football where people give opinions. It's true for every manager past and present where some things work and don't, but are we only allowed to discuss some things and not others?
I never said it cost the game. We've had a great year and one to build on but decisions like this don't fill me with confidence and leaves a bad taste in the mouth when we should be buzzing for next year.

You are the only person either on a forum online or from the many i have been talking to about the game who has even mentioned this. Havent even seen it on Hoganstand and there a plenty there who stick the knife in when given the chance.  Is there a personal element to your grievance?
I've spoken to plenty who aren't happy with decision.

Is there a personal element to your grievance, what club are you from?
No personal element and none of your business what club I'm from. The only personal element that I can see on here is that no one is allowed to say anything remotely critical of this management no matter how badly they behave.
If people want to put their total faith in them then fair enough, that's their business but I've yet to see a single response explaining the positives of the decision they went with. There is none. The only response is to shut up and don't question.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Cavan19 on December 14, 2020, 03:04:22 PM
Quote from: Look-Up! on December 14, 2020, 02:29:58 PM
Quote from: Cavan19 on December 14, 2020, 01:55:28 PM
Quote from: Look-Up! on December 14, 2020, 01:40:15 PM
Quote from: Cavan19 on December 14, 2020, 09:54:57 AM
Quote from: Look-Up! on December 12, 2020, 02:22:46 PM
Quote from: Cavan19 on December 11, 2020, 10:06:01 AM
Quote from: Look-Up! on December 09, 2020, 07:28:26 PM
Looking at our performance for the last 15 minutes I would use a stronger term than odd for the decision.

Some things work and some don't.

Mangers make calls and some things work and some don't. They got a lot of things right this championship but they also got plenty wrong.  It seems to be bothering you i would advise you to forget about it as it's not a decision that cost us the game.
It's a discussion thread about Cavan football where people give opinions. It's true for every manager past and present where some things work and don't, but are we only allowed to discuss some things and not others?
I never said it cost the game. We've had a great year and one to build on but decisions like this don't fill me with confidence and leaves a bad taste in the mouth when we should be buzzing for next year.

You are the only person either on a forum online or from the many i have been talking to about the game who has even mentioned this. Havent even seen it on Hoganstand and there a plenty there who stick the knife in when given the chance.  Is there a personal element to your grievance?
I've spoken to plenty who aren't happy with decision.

Is there a personal element to your grievance, what club are you from?
No personal element and none of your business what club I'm from. The only personal element that I can see on here is that no one is allowed to say anything remotely critical of this management no matter how badly they behave.
If people want to put their total faith in them then fair enough, that's their business but I've yet to see a single response explaining the positives of the decision they went with. There is none. The only response is to shut up and don't question.

That wouldn't be a personal element but anyway management made load of mistakes in the first 3 games in the Ulster Championship that were glossed over by getting to the final and winning it i don't think anyone would argue with that.   

What positives do you want a lad came on and did f**k all it probably wasn't the best decision made all year  but it isn't leaving a bad taste in to many mouths around the county. I think you must be a Ballymachugh looking out for your man.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Look-Up! on December 14, 2020, 03:30:44 PM
Quote from: Cavan19 on December 14, 2020, 03:04:22 PM
Quote from: Look-Up! on December 14, 2020, 02:29:58 PM
Quote from: Cavan19 on December 14, 2020, 01:55:28 PM
Quote from: Look-Up! on December 14, 2020, 01:40:15 PM
Quote from: Cavan19 on December 14, 2020, 09:54:57 AM
Quote from: Look-Up! on December 12, 2020, 02:22:46 PM
Quote from: Cavan19 on December 11, 2020, 10:06:01 AM
Quote from: Look-Up! on December 09, 2020, 07:28:26 PM
Looking at our performance for the last 15 minutes I would use a stronger term than odd for the decision.

Some things work and some don't.

Mangers make calls and some things work and some don't. They got a lot of things right this championship but they also got plenty wrong.  It seems to be bothering you i would advise you to forget about it as it's not a decision that cost us the game.
It's a discussion thread about Cavan football where people give opinions. It's true for every manager past and present where some things work and don't, but are we only allowed to discuss some things and not others?
I never said it cost the game. We've had a great year and one to build on but decisions like this don't fill me with confidence and leaves a bad taste in the mouth when we should be buzzing for next year.

You are the only person either on a forum online or from the many i have been talking to about the game who has even mentioned this. Havent even seen it on Hoganstand and there a plenty there who stick the knife in when given the chance.  Is there a personal element to your grievance?
I've spoken to plenty who aren't happy with decision.

Is there a personal element to your grievance, what club are you from?
No personal element and none of your business what club I'm from. The only personal element that I can see on here is that no one is allowed to say anything remotely critical of this management no matter how badly they behave.
If people want to put their total faith in them then fair enough, that's their business but I've yet to see a single response explaining the positives of the decision they went with. There is none. The only response is to shut up and don't question.

That wouldn't be a personal element but anyway management made load of mistakes in the first 3 games in the Ulster Championship that were glossed over by getting to the final and winning it i don't think anyone would argue with that.   

What positives do you want a lad came on and did f**k all it probably wasn't the best decision made all year  but it isn't leaving a bad taste in to many mouths around the county. I think you must be a Ballymachugh looking out for your man.
I'm not Ballymachugh not that it matters but I was just very disappointed for the lad and a few others. End of the day all those players have got Cavan their first senior Ulster medals in 23 years and morale and team spirit were as good as I've seen. Think it was very disrespectful messing with a winning squad like that just before an AI semi. It was only ever going to blow up in their faces and goes completely against the mantra they've been preaching since last summer that only total commitment accepted and if you don't put in the hard yards you won't make the panel.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Cavan19 on December 14, 2020, 03:52:56 PM
Quote from: Look-Up! on December 14, 2020, 03:30:44 PM
Quote from: Cavan19 on December 14, 2020, 03:04:22 PM
Quote from: Look-Up! on December 14, 2020, 02:29:58 PM
Quote from: Cavan19 on December 14, 2020, 01:55:28 PM
Quote from: Look-Up! on December 14, 2020, 01:40:15 PM
Quote from: Cavan19 on December 14, 2020, 09:54:57 AM
Quote from: Look-Up! on December 12, 2020, 02:22:46 PM
Quote from: Cavan19 on December 11, 2020, 10:06:01 AM
Quote from: Look-Up! on December 09, 2020, 07:28:26 PM
Looking at our performance for the last 15 minutes I would use a stronger term than odd for the decision.

Some things work and some don't.

Mangers make calls and some things work and some don't. They got a lot of things right this championship but they also got plenty wrong.  It seems to be bothering you i would advise you to forget about it as it's not a decision that cost us the game.
It's a discussion thread about Cavan football where people give opinions. It's true for every manager past and present where some things work and don't, but are we only allowed to discuss some things and not others?
I never said it cost the game. We've had a great year and one to build on but decisions like this don't fill me with confidence and leaves a bad taste in the mouth when we should be buzzing for next year.

You are the only person either on a forum online or from the many i have been talking to about the game who has even mentioned this. Havent even seen it on Hoganstand and there a plenty there who stick the knife in when given the chance.  Is there a personal element to your grievance?
I've spoken to plenty who aren't happy with decision.

Is there a personal element to your grievance, what club are you from?
No personal element and none of your business what club I'm from. The only personal element that I can see on here is that no one is allowed to say anything remotely critical of this management no matter how badly they behave.
If people want to put their total faith in them then fair enough, that's their business but I've yet to see a single response explaining the positives of the decision they went with. There is none. The only response is to shut up and don't question.

That wouldn't be a personal element but anyway management made load of mistakes in the first 3 games in the Ulster Championship that were glossed over by getting to the final and winning it i don't think anyone would argue with that.   

What positives do you want a lad came on and did f**k all it probably wasn't the best decision made all year  but it isn't leaving a bad taste in to many mouths around the county. I think you must be a Ballymachugh looking out for your man.
I'm not Ballymachugh not that it matters but I was just very disappointed for the lad and a few others. End of the day all those players have got Cavan their first senior Ulster medals in 23 years and morale and team spirit were as good as I've seen. Think it was very disrespectful messing with a winning squad like that just before an AI semi. It was only ever going to blow up in their faces and goes completely against the mantra they've been preaching since last summer that only total commitment accepted and if you don't put in the hard yards you won't make the panel.

The squad had changes every match.  What about Niall Murray brought on against Monaghan and took of and didn't look half fit where was the bad taste then?  Stephen Murray back for the semi final. I'm sure them lads along with Conor Brady showed total commitment to get themselves back fit and if they are passed as fit by physio/doctor or whoever they have every right to be part of the squad if management think they can make a difference.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Look-Up! on December 14, 2020, 04:24:48 PM
Quote from: Cavan19 on December 14, 2020, 03:52:56 PM
Quote from: Look-Up! on December 14, 2020, 03:30:44 PM
Quote from: Cavan19 on December 14, 2020, 03:04:22 PM
Quote from: Look-Up! on December 14, 2020, 02:29:58 PM
Quote from: Cavan19 on December 14, 2020, 01:55:28 PM
Quote from: Look-Up! on December 14, 2020, 01:40:15 PM
Quote from: Cavan19 on December 14, 2020, 09:54:57 AM
Quote from: Look-Up! on December 12, 2020, 02:22:46 PM
Quote from: Cavan19 on December 11, 2020, 10:06:01 AM
Quote from: Look-Up! on December 09, 2020, 07:28:26 PM
Looking at our performance for the last 15 minutes I would use a stronger term than odd for the decision.

Some things work and some don't.

Mangers make calls and some things work and some don't. They got a lot of things right this championship but they also got plenty wrong.  It seems to be bothering you i would advise you to forget about it as it's not a decision that cost us the game.
It's a discussion thread about Cavan football where people give opinions. It's true for every manager past and present where some things work and don't, but are we only allowed to discuss some things and not others?
I never said it cost the game. We've had a great year and one to build on but decisions like this don't fill me with confidence and leaves a bad taste in the mouth when we should be buzzing for next year.

You are the only person either on a forum online or from the many i have been talking to about the game who has even mentioned this. Havent even seen it on Hoganstand and there a plenty there who stick the knife in when given the chance.  Is there a personal element to your grievance?
I've spoken to plenty who aren't happy with decision.

Is there a personal element to your grievance, what club are you from?
No personal element and none of your business what club I'm from. The only personal element that I can see on here is that no one is allowed to say anything remotely critical of this management no matter how badly they behave.
If people want to put their total faith in them then fair enough, that's their business but I've yet to see a single response explaining the positives of the decision they went with. There is none. The only response is to shut up and don't question.

That wouldn't be a personal element but anyway management made load of mistakes in the first 3 games in the Ulster Championship that were glossed over by getting to the final and winning it i don't think anyone would argue with that.   

What positives do you want a lad came on and did f**k all it probably wasn't the best decision made all year  but it isn't leaving a bad taste in to many mouths around the county. I think you must be a Ballymachugh looking out for your man.
I'm not Ballymachugh not that it matters but I was just very disappointed for the lad and a few others. End of the day all those players have got Cavan their first senior Ulster medals in 23 years and morale and team spirit were as good as I've seen. Think it was very disrespectful messing with a winning squad like that just before an AI semi. It was only ever going to blow up in their faces and goes completely against the mantra they've been preaching since last summer that only total commitment accepted and if you don't put in the hard yards you won't make the panel.

The squad had changes every match.  What about Niall Murray brought on against Monaghan and took of and didn't look half fit where was the bad taste then?  Stephen Murray back for the semi final. I'm sure them lads along with Conor Brady showed total commitment to get themselves back fit and if they are passed as fit by physio/doctor or whoever they have every right to be part of the squad if management think they can make a difference.
Yeah. Or maybe a "personal element" didn't do his prospects any harm.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on December 14, 2020, 04:45:49 PM
Looking into 21, I think a few could be added to strengthen the panel. Patrick Lynch, Caoimhin Reilly, 
Caoimhin McGovern will be eligible next year. They would add to the forward options.

Niall Mcdermott was asked in but couldn't commit. Maybe that will change.

If you added a few of those with McVeety back it would give good options inside. Cormac Reilly, Oisin Pierson and Conor Smith are good players but competition would help too.


Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Look-Up! on December 14, 2020, 05:46:33 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on December 14, 2020, 04:45:49 PM
Looking into 21, I think a few could be added to strengthen the panel. Patrick Lynch, Caoimhin Reilly, 
Caoimhin McGovern will be eligible next year. They would add to the forward options.

Niall Mcdermott was asked in but couldn't commit. Maybe that will change.

If you added a few of those with McVeety back it would give good options inside. Cormac Reilly, Oisin Pierson and Conor Smith are good players but competition would help too.
Yeah I think the team picked itself pretty much in the Championship bar one or two spots. The likes of Clarke and the Murray's I don't think were fully up to speed either so you'd hope they'll up it for next year. Those players you mentioned certainly could add something and hopefully the ones that were in come back fitter and stronger. Would be nice to see a high flying Moynagh back too and maybe in defence the likes of Timoney to have a breakthrough year or maybe even a surprise packet come out of nowhere.
I think promotion is a very realistic target. In fact I'd say there'd be some disappointment if we fell short of that and barring any more drop outs and providing we strengthen, I think we'll achieve it.
Very interested to see how we go in the Championship next year and hope we can show more of the fire we had this year and try solidify our position at the top of the chasing pack to Tyrone and Donegal (no disrespect to Monaghan but I think some transition time could be on the way for them). Management will want to build on the year too and prove it wasn't a once off. I've heard plenty label Graham as a very lucky manager but I don't think that's a fair assessment and his achievements are there for all to see. Others have said winter football probably suits us and in a typical year we would not have replicated it on the speedier pitches of June/July. Maybe they have a point, maybe it's sour grapes, but I would definitely like to see a bit more mobility in our defence especially.
So lots to look forward to. We have youth, experience, plenty of talent and young lads to break through plus we also have the DVD of the Donegal match to get us over the Xmas!!!!
Happy Xmas and New Year to team, management and all our supporters and posters.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on December 14, 2020, 07:31:32 PM
For me we have to win Div3, get to croke Park and win a trophy there. The good thing for next year is that any player returning will have their work cut out. Moynagh is a player I like but who in our current back 6 does he bump out. Even mcvitty will need to work hard to get back in.

One player I often wondered about is Cian Madden, he was by far the most exciting prospect in that minor team that lost the AI semi final. I'm not close to club football anymore but is he still playing. I was sure he was going to be a star, maybe he still can be.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on December 14, 2020, 07:52:30 PM
The heavier pitch might be a point, but that's up to Cavan next year to prove it isn't. Though I don't think Mullinachta would have won Leinster 2 years ago if it was played in June or July.
Operating in Division 3 will be a lower base going into the Championship. 4 Counties from Ulster in Division 1 next. year. Need to go in with momentum and promotion.

Tyrone and Donegal will still be the teams to beat. Tyrone under new management and with McShane back will probaly be favourites. McKenna and Canavan adding to the attack too.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Look-Up! on December 15, 2020, 01:20:59 PM
I think Moynagh is a whole hearted player and has decent speed to him. If fully fit and committed he'd be hard kept out of team. Same with McVeety. Cian Madden played in this year's championship anyway, not sure what's the story with him. Very good free taker. Think he was operating around the middle the last time I saw him.
Division 3 is a tricky one. It's definitely a level we should be looking to get out of but a bad day or two at the office could ruin our chances. Throw in a couple of local derbies. Fermanagh, Longford. Then teams like Derry, Tipperary. Even if we get someone like Limerick away, it's a place we've often struggled in. So there's plenty of potential banana skins depending on the draw but if we are on form from the start and take no one likely our stints in the top two divisions should make us favourites to come up.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on December 15, 2020, 01:37:33 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on December 14, 2020, 07:52:30 PM
The heavier pitch might be a point, but that's up to Cavan next year to prove it isn't. Though I don't think Mullinachta would have won Leinster 2 years ago if it was played in June or July.
Operating in Division 3 will be a lower base going into the Championship. 4 Counties from Ulster in Division 1 next. year. Need to go in with momentum and promotion.

Tyrone and Donegal will still be the teams to beat. Tyrone under new management and with McShane back will probaly be favourites. McKenna and Canavan adding to the attack too.

I dont agree on Tyrone. I think Harte has been there so long, the whole place built up around him and in his way. A new management team trying to do something different will struggle. Its will be like when Ferguson left man utd or when wenger left arsenal. I think Tyrone will be in a change mode for a few seasons. Dont get me wrong, they will still be very decent but I think they will cease to be the threat they were under Harte. They will be crying for him back within 12 months!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Look-Up! on December 15, 2020, 04:13:04 PM
I think Harte's time was up and Tyrone need a fresh voice and ideas. I'm just not sure on joint managers. I don't think it's a good idea and a fallout is more likely than great success.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on December 15, 2020, 04:45:01 PM
Quote from: Itchy on December 15, 2020, 01:37:33 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on December 14, 2020, 07:52:30 PM
The heavier pitch might be a point, but that's up to Cavan next year to prove it isn't. Though I don't think Mullinachta would have won Leinster 2 years ago if it was played in June or July.
Operating in Division 3 will be a lower base going into the Championship. 4 Counties from Ulster in Division 1 next. year. Need to go in with momentum and promotion.

Tyrone and Donegal will still be the teams to beat. Tyrone under new management and with McShane back will probaly be favourites. McKenna and Canavan adding to the attack too.

I dont agree on Tyrone. I think Harte has been there so long, the whole place built up around him and in his way. A new management team trying to do something different will struggle. Its will be like when Ferguson left man utd or when wenger left arsenal. I think Tyrone will be in a change mode for a few seasons. Dont get me wrong, they will still be very decent but I think they will cease to be the threat they were under Harte. They will be crying for him back within 12 months!

Logan managed a few of them at U21. They won the All Ireland U21 under him.  Though its strange that it's joint managers. Dooher was a selector with the U21s.
Tyrone have a history of appointing joint managers, before Mickey Harte they had Art McCrory and McKenna

There was also players not involved under Harte who'll  probaly get a chance under a new manager like Lee Beenham and probaly others. A fresh voice might give them a lift. Not too much of a lift hopefully
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on December 15, 2020, 11:29:05 PM
Quote from: Itchy on December 14, 2020, 07:31:32 PM
For me we have to win Div3, get to croke Park and win a trophy there. The good thing for next year is that any player returning will have their work cut out. Moynagh is a player I like but who in our current back 6 does he bump out. Even mcvitty will need to work hard to get back in.

One player I often wondered about is Cian Madden, he was by far the most exciting prospect in that minor team that lost the AI semi final. I'm not close to club football anymore but is he still playing. I was sure he was going to be a star, maybe he still can be.

I think McVeety walks back onto that team. I'm sure management won't let him stroll back in and hand him a starting jersey, he'll be made to look like he's worked for it but realistically with any sort of training he strolls into any position he wants in our front 6.

I was having that conversation about Madden with a friend recently. I looked back at some of the videos from that year, he really was outstanding. One of the most talented minor forwards I've ever seen play for Cavan, a bit like Mackey when he was minor. I think he opted out when asked into the Senior Panel a couple of years ago. Doesn't seem to have kicked on in club football as Smith and Timoney did. Maybe the interest just wasn't there to push on. As you say though, hopefully he will.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on December 16, 2020, 01:44:46 PM
Madden was asked in last year but opted to concentrate with the U20s. He didn't really stand out this year at club level, but still has time 21.

James Brady has been Ramor best forward in the past couple of years.  He would be another contender to call up.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Look-Up! on December 16, 2020, 02:14:25 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on December 16, 2020, 01:44:46 PM
Madden was asked in last year but opted to concentrate with the U20s. He didn't really stand out this year at club level, but still has time 21.

James Brady has been Ramor best forward in the past couple of years.  He would be another contender to call up.
James Brady good call.

Was Madden played out of position because of injuries with Gowna?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Look-Up! on December 20, 2020, 01:34:13 PM
What were people's thoughts on the match yesterday?

Although Mayo put in a great performance I found the game boring enough and always felt the result inevitable. Dublin never hit the heights and although the westerners never let them take off I felt they were comfortable enough and there was another gear there if needed. Once the substitutions came on for both teams after the 50/60 min mark or so Mayo fell flat and Dublin kicked on.

Dublin are a great team and have been given all the plaudits. Pundits have lauded them as great ambassadors and playing the game the way it should be played etc. That was true up to a few years ago but now I just find them incredibly boring. For all their talents they take zero risks. Against an opponent who may bear some teeth it's death by a thousand cuts. Everything is controlled, recycle and wait for the high percentage option. Even the younger lads like COC who lit up games when they first came on the scene have morphed into the stereotypical Dublin footballer. Their U20s were beaten yesterday but they will get plenty more top seniors out of that group.

Can't see them going away anywhere. For all the flak that Meath and Kildare get, thank God we're not in Leinster is all I'll say.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: marty34 on December 20, 2020, 01:44:01 PM
Quote from: Look-Up! on December 20, 2020, 01:34:13 PM
What were people's thoughts on the match yesterday?

Although Mayo put in a great performance I found the game boring enough and always felt the result inevitable. Dublin never hit the heights and although the westerners never let them take off I felt they were comfortable enough and there was another gear there if needed. Once the substitutions came on for both teams after the 50/60 min mark or so Mayo fell flat and Dublin kicked on.

Dublin are a great team and have been given all the plaudits. Pundits have lauded them as great ambassadors and playing the game the way it should be played etc. That was true up to a few years ago but now I just find them incredibly boring. For all their talents they take zero risks. Against an opponent who may bear some teeth it's death by a thousand cuts. Everything is controlled, recycle and wait for the high percentage option. Even the younger lads like COC who lit up games when they first came on the scene have morphed into the stereotypical Dublin footballer. Their U20s were beaten yesterday but they will get plenty more top seniors out of that group.

Can't see them going away anywhere. For all the flak that Meath and Kildare get, thank God we're not in Leinster is all I'll say.

But that's what it's all about - they are that good, they are boring.

They play the game in the correct manner, the shooter in the best position always gets the ball and they have a fantastic skills set.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on December 20, 2020, 02:02:25 PM
They are quite boring, a lot of recycling and then a burst.

There was one bit of play in the first half, which was a bit different where O Callaghan went for goal when it wasn't really on. He could have fisted it over or passed it across.

Connolly played more off the cuff.  The firs couple of All Irelands Dublin won ,was a more attractive style. Then it became more possession based when  Donegal beat them in 2014.

Don't think Bugler will be as good a half forward as Paul Flynn or Connolly





Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: marty34 on December 20, 2020, 02:12:49 PM
I see The Sunday Game gave 2 slots to Cavan players on their Team of the Year - Galligan and Tom the Tank.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on December 20, 2020, 02:16:05 PM
Colm O Rourke has 4 Cavan players in his column in Sunday Indo. Faulkner, Ciaran Brady, Thomas Galligan and Gearoid Mckiernan.  He went for Cluxton in goals
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Look-Up! on December 20, 2020, 02:25:49 PM
Quote from: marty34 on December 20, 2020, 01:44:01 PM
Quote from: Look-Up! on December 20, 2020, 01:34:13 PM
What were people's thoughts on the match yesterday?

Although Mayo put in a great performance I found the game boring enough and always felt the result inevitable. Dublin never hit the heights and although the westerners never let them take off I felt they were comfortable enough and there was another gear there if needed. Once the substitutions came on for both teams after the 50/60 min mark or so Mayo fell flat and Dublin kicked on.

Dublin are a great team and have been given all the plaudits. Pundits have lauded them as great ambassadors and playing the game the way it should be played etc. That was true up to a few years ago but now I just find them incredibly boring. For all their talents they take zero risks. Against an opponent who may bear some teeth it's death by a thousand cuts. Everything is controlled, recycle and wait for the high percentage option. Even the younger lads like COC who lit up games when they first came on the scene have morphed into the stereotypical Dublin footballer. Their U20s were beaten yesterday but they will get plenty more top seniors out of that group.

Can't see them going away anywhere. For all the flak that Meath and Kildare get, thank God we're not in Leinster is all I'll say.

But that's what it's all about - they are that good, they are boring.

They play the game in the correct manner, the shooter in the best position always gets the ball and they have a fantastic skills set.
What exactly is that though? If your defenders are better than your forwards then a defensive style would be the correct manner for you. Never stopped the criticisms from media on other teams on conservative styles of play, no sense of adventure, playing the percentages etc. TBH I'd rather watch a 6 score slugfest in half a foot of muck than watch them.
They have all the ingredients any manager could dare to dream for and they are boring as hell. For all the good guy façade about them in the media, the feigning injuries, diving and rolling about on the ground and cynical fouls going completely unpunished is actually starting to make them very unlikable.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Look-Up! on December 20, 2020, 02:27:37 PM
Quote from: marty34 on December 20, 2020, 02:12:49 PM
I see The Sunday Game gave 2 slots to Cavan players on their Team of the Year - Galligan and Tom the Tank.
Saw that. Fair play to them. Faulkner and Brady with honourable mentions. Hopefully some of them get an AS.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Cavan19 on December 21, 2020, 06:46:19 PM
We are not going to be the 2nd tier competition for 2021 which is a positive. Hopefully we can get back to Division 2 also.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on December 21, 2020, 07:01:47 PM
Quote from: Cavan19 on December 21, 2020, 06:46:19 PM
We are not going to be the 2nd tier competition for 2021 which is a positive. Hopefully we can get back to Division 2 also.

Why do you say that? Don't we need to get promoted or make Ulster Final.

I think we will get 3 All stars. Ray Galligan is a cert, Thomas Galligan and then either Holla or Faulkner.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Look-Up! on December 21, 2020, 08:02:36 PM
We're Ulster champions so as things stand we don't have to play Tier 2 regardless of our league position.
I don't understand promotion relegation. I assume semis will be top v 2nd from each section. Promotion is 2 finalists?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on December 21, 2020, 08:11:41 PM
 The Tailtean Cup starts next year so winning this year's Ulster has no bearing on it.
Cavan will have to either get promoted from Division 3 or win Ulster.

Its the 2 League finalists who are promoted.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Look-Up! on December 21, 2020, 08:49:11 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on December 21, 2020, 08:11:41 PM
The Tailtean Cup starts next year so winning this year's Ulster has no bearing on it.
Cavan will have to either get promoted from Division 3 or win Ulster.

Its the 2 League finalists who are promoted.

"Recommended that Provincial Champions from the previous year – regardless of whether they are Division 3 or 4 Counties or not – are automatically included in Sam Maguire Qualifiers even if they do not qualify for their provincial final in 2021"

From GAA website
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on December 21, 2020, 09:38:48 PM
Least that doesn't put as much pressure on the league. But they'll want to get promoted from Division 3. The shorter format with it divided by region based, means can't afford any slip up like against Clare this year.
Derry, Longford and Fermanagh will be dogged teams.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Look-Up! on December 21, 2020, 09:47:45 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on December 21, 2020, 09:38:48 PM
Least that doesn't put as much pressure on the league. But they'll want to get promoted from Division 3. The shorter format with it divided by region based, means can't afford any slip up like against Clare this year.
Derry, Longford and Fermanagh will be dogged teams.
Yes tougher section I'd say. Tipp will be quite happy. They should finish top of their section.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Look-Up! on February 17, 2021, 09:28:09 PM
https://www.the42.ie/mickey-graham-5354801-Feb2021/

Enjoyable read
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on February 19, 2021, 07:57:33 AM
Congratulations to Raymond, Thomas and Padraig on their All Star awards. Hard to believe this is where 2020 ended up.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on April 05, 2021, 09:28:44 AM
Any word on who is on the panel now that there's a date to get started again. I see from twitter McVetty is still in Oz, looks like we may not see him in blue again which is a terrible shame. What about Moynagh? We've a great panel to build on from last year, hopefully with a few additions and a couple of young lads coming in we can keep it nice and fresh and get going again this year.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mrdeeds on April 05, 2021, 10:09:08 AM
Quote from: Itchy on April 05, 2021, 09:28:44 AM
Any word on who is on the panel now that there's a date to get started again. I see from twitter McVetty is still in Oz, looks like we may not see him in blue again which is a terrible shame. What about Moynagh? We've a great panel to build on from last year, hopefully with a few additions and a couple of young lads coming in we can keep it nice and fresh and get going again this year.

Caoimhin Reilly is back in. Sean McEvoy, Brian O Connell, Patrick Lynch and Kevin Bouchier in also.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on April 09, 2021, 05:44:49 PM
They are good additions to the panel. A short window to impress with condensed league and knockout championship again.

McEvoy seems to be putting his soccer career on hold for now.  He was playing well with Bray.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on April 16, 2021, 05:14:20 PM
Mickey was asked by Damien on this week's podcast about additions. He named Sean McEvoy, Caoimhin McGovern and Brian O'Connell. No word of Caoimhin Reilly or Paddy Lynch.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mrdeeds on April 16, 2021, 05:27:57 PM
Quote from: Westside on April 16, 2021, 05:14:20 PM
Mickey was asked by Damien on this week's podcast about additions. He named Sean McEvoy, Caoimhin McGovern and Brian O'Connell. No word of Caoimhin Reilly or Paddy Lynch.

McGovern not a new addition. And he said to name a few.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on April 16, 2021, 05:47:30 PM
They were named in the Celt a few weeks ago. David Brady of Ballyhaise is also involved.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on April 17, 2021, 05:24:46 PM
Quote from: mrdeeds on April 16, 2021, 05:27:57 PM
Quote from: Westside on April 16, 2021, 05:14:20 PM
Mickey was asked by Damien on this week's podcast about additions. He named Sean McEvoy, Caoimhin McGovern and Brian O'Connell. No word of Caoimhin Reilly or Paddy Lynch.

McGovern not a new addition. And he said to name a few.

Yeah thought it was strange myself that he was mentioned given that he's already played for Cavan (albeit that he shouldn't have)

It's a very tough time for lads going onto a panel and trying to break through to the team. Realistically they'll need to stick with it for a few years before we see a real impact.

I wonder are the county boards/GAA doing anything about streaming the League games? If crowds aren't allowed or are limited they would surely get big numbers paying for a stream.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on April 18, 2021, 10:39:50 AM
There won't be crowds for the League games. It would have to be at level 2 for some specators.
Streaming will have to be alternative option forward for County boards, doubtful they will be showing Division 3  games on TV.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on April 20, 2021, 08:01:09 PM
Probably the toughest possible opening round, Tyrone in Omagh. They will want to put us back in our box. Should be tasty, a brilliant test for Mickey and the lads.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on April 20, 2021, 08:24:46 PM
Quote from: Westside on April 20, 2021, 08:01:09 PM
Probably the toughest possible opening round, Tyrone in Omagh. They will want to put us back in our box. Should be tasty, a brilliant test for Mickey and the lads.

Tyrone in transition from Mickey Harte, great chance for the lads to pit down another marker. No reason the lads can't do ir
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: skeog on April 20, 2021, 08:27:05 PM
Tyrone in transition what planet are you on.Be short season for Cavan this year.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on April 20, 2021, 08:40:53 PM
Quote from: skeog on April 20, 2021, 08:27:05 PM
Tyrone in transition what planet are you on.Be short season for Cavan this year.

Ill explain it for you as you are obviously a wee bit slow. You see Tyrone previous Manager was Mickey Harte, you see he was their manager from 2002 to 2020 (18 yrs) and was by a mile Tyrone most successful manager wining 3 all irelands, 6 ulster's and 1 national league.

Last yr Tyrone and Harte parted ways and new management are in charge and will only have started training the team properly this week.

So the team are transitioning from one long standing manager to a new management team.

Hope that helps you.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Look-Up! on April 22, 2021, 02:00:14 PM
Extremely tough draw. Tyrone in Omagh normally as tough as it gets but with a new management team and fresh voice and ideas, they will be looking to lay down a big marker in the Championship. If we do somehow manage to clear that hurdle, semi-final would be another big mountain.

Monaghan should be very happy with the draw, decent chance of making the final.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on April 22, 2021, 02:42:33 PM
Quote from: Look-Up! on April 22, 2021, 02:00:14 PM
Extremely tough draw. Tyrone in Omagh normally as tough as it gets but with a new management team and fresh voice and ideas, they will be looking to lay down a big marker in the Championship. If we do somehow manage to clear that hurdle, semi-final would be another big mountain.

Monaghan should be very happy with the draw, decent chance of making the final.

Yet at the same time I wouldnt be totally surprised if Fermanagh took them. I would fancy Armagh to finally get to a final with that draw.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Look-Up! on April 22, 2021, 03:15:59 PM
Quote from: Itchy on April 22, 2021, 02:42:33 PM
Quote from: Look-Up! on April 22, 2021, 02:00:14 PM
Extremely tough draw. Tyrone in Omagh normally as tough as it gets but with a new management team and fresh voice and ideas, they will be looking to lay down a big marker in the Championship. If we do somehow manage to clear that hurdle, semi-final would be another big mountain.

Monaghan should be very happy with the draw, decent chance of making the final.

Yet at the same time I wouldnt be totally surprised if Fermanagh took them. I would fancy Armagh to finally get to a final with that draw.
Yes there's always a big game in Fermanagh same way there's always a bad game in Monaghan. Armagh another team impossible to gauge. Some nice young footballers coming into their prime but they still need to step up.
Antrim too will be happy enough with the draw, as good as they could have hoped for. It's a coin toss really who makes the final.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on April 22, 2021, 04:32:43 PM
I read Fermanagh have lost a few players since last year. Tomas Corrigan,Ryan Jones and a few others opted out.
They have Sean Quigley back but would be very surprised if they beat Monaghan. Monaghan  should have more in their attack, and will be hurting from last year.

Tyrone in Omagh very tough for Cavan, but it will get them focused. Might have been complacent if it was Antrim
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Cavan19 on April 23, 2021, 11:21:53 AM
A couple of lads gone from the panel didn't pass some of the tests.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Look-Up! on April 23, 2021, 11:38:04 AM
Quote from: Cavan19 on April 23, 2021, 11:21:53 AM
A couple of lads gone from the panel didn't pass some of the tests.
Any idea who? To be expected anyway at this stage as a very big turnout start of the week at training and players found it too disjointed. Probably just the lads new to it who need to go away and do their own work to get to level required now they've had their eyes opened. You'd hope the lads that have been involved before and those with serious claims would have been looking after themselves this past while and keeping up with their programmes.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Cavan19 on April 23, 2021, 12:17:24 PM
Quote from: Look-Up! on April 23, 2021, 11:38:04 AM
Quote from: Cavan19 on April 23, 2021, 11:21:53 AM
A couple of lads gone from the panel didn't pass some of the tests.
Any idea who? To be expected anyway at this stage as a very big turnout start of the week at training and players found it too disjointed. Probably just the lads new to it who need to go away and do their own work to get to level required now they've had their eyes opened. You'd hope the lads that have been involved before and those with serious claims would have been looking after themselves this past while and keeping up with their programmes.

I just heard buchanan but i think there was possibly four in total i will try find out more later.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Look-Up! on May 08, 2021, 01:29:11 PM
Any rumours on the club scene?

Heard plenty myself. Mackey back with Castlerahan maybe.

McVeety back too at some stage but to concentrate on club.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on May 09, 2021, 10:11:44 AM
Read that we bet Roscommon in a challenge in the Hyde yesterday, anyone know of any details?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Look-Up! on May 09, 2021, 11:17:19 AM
Quote from: Itchy on May 09, 2021, 10:11:44 AM
Read that we bet Roscommon in a challenge in the Hyde yesterday, anyone know of any details?
Maybe I picked it up wrong but I heard we lost by 1. Supposedly scrappy game, both teams rusty with plenty of errors. No real surprises on selection front, going with tried and trusted. That's what I heard anyway but details were scant.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on May 12, 2021, 08:50:02 AM
Decent draws for the Minors and U20s, both with home games. My persona opinion is that these teams have been poorly organised on the field in the past number of years so I am hoping that this will have changed.

Seniors up on Saturday against Fermanagh, really need to get out of Div 3 at the first time of asking and beating Fermanagh away should be achievable, as long as there is no complacency. It will be interesting  to see who is on the match day panel, I have heard very little this year.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dreadnought on May 12, 2021, 11:56:09 AM
Quote from: Itchy on May 12, 2021, 08:50:02 AM
Decent draws for the Minors and U20s, both with home games. My persona opinion is that these teams have been poorly organised on the field in the past number of years so I am hoping that this will have changed.

Seniors up on Saturday against Fermanagh, really need to get out of Div 3 at the first time of asking and beating Fermanagh away should be achievable, as long as there is no complacency. It will be interesting  to see who is on the match day panel, I have heard very little this year.

Yeah a decent draw. Minors have a tough draw to get to the final, but the U20s have a very decent draw and I see no reason why they shouldn't get to the final there and you never know after that. Hoping both teams have a good year and a good run.

Aye, can't be complacent. Should be winning this, but do have to go out and do it. Need to just get out of this Division. We always go well in Brewster so hopefully same here. Mickey is a championship manager, always said league is for preparing, so I'm sure we'll see a few new faces as he tries a few things.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mrdeeds on May 15, 2021, 03:22:57 PM
Strong line up full of attacking players.

Galligan
K Clarke
P Faulkner
J Mcloughlin
C Brady
O Kiernan
L Fortune
J Smith
K Brady
G Smith
G McKiernan
M Reilly
C Madden
P Lynch
T Galligan

Is see Argue is listed as a sub too.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Look-Up! on May 15, 2021, 10:11:40 PM
Sloppy performance. Looked toothless going forward and worrying how easily Fermanagh cut us open at times. Up against it now.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on May 17, 2021, 07:09:18 PM
Longford had a strong team lined out against Derry. Their fitness must have been really poor, but Derry like Fermanagh have probaly played a few challenge games. Conor Glass back from Australia is a big addition for Derry.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Look-Up! on May 23, 2021, 01:40:58 PM
Good result in the end but a laboured performance and result was up in the air for long periods. Defence again looked suspect at times and thought our forwards offered nothing when getting on inside ball. Not once did we take a man on, ball repeatedly came back out to be recycled. All very boring and predictable. We need a spark from somewhere, something along the lines of what Thomas Galligan gave us last year.

Derry seem to be flying, we'll have to up it big time to avoid a hammering. You never know, sometimes early league form can sway wildly depending on workload teams are taking on. You often see true form after the third game or so, so I'm hoping Cavan click for next week. But we do look very flat and worryingly all the parts of a Division 3 team. Doubt we'd even look out of place in Division 4, a far cry from the heady days of last November.

Championship less than 7 weeks away, we need a lot of improvement. Watched a bit of Monaghan Donegal yesterday. Lightyears ahead of us in terms of what they offer on the ball upfront. Attitude and pace of the Monaghan forwards is the very opposite of ours. Looked to turn Donegal defenders every chance they got. You might criticise some of the Donegal defending but Monaghan at least asked the questions of them. Not once did we even attempt to do similar to the Longford men.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on May 23, 2021, 05:47:43 PM
Any word on the 2 injuries to Smith and Holla.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on May 23, 2021, 08:12:05 PM
Quote from: Look-Up! on May 23, 2021, 01:40:58 PM
Good result in the end but a laboured performance and result was up in the air for long periods. Defence again looked suspect at times and thought our forwards offered nothing when getting on inside ball. Not once did we take a man on, ball repeatedly came back out to be recycled. All very boring and predictable. We need a spark from somewhere, something along the lines of what Thomas Galligan gave us last year.

Derry seem to be flying, we'll have to up it big time to avoid a hammering. You never know, sometimes early league form can sway wildly depending on workload teams are taking on. You often see true form after the third game or so, so I'm hoping Cavan click for next week. But we do look very flat and worryingly all the parts of a Division 3 team. Doubt we'd even look out of place in Division 4, a far cry from the heady days of last November.

Championship less than 7 weeks away, we need a lot of improvement. Watched a bit of Monaghan Donegal yesterday. Lightyears ahead of us in terms of what they offer on the ball upfront. Attitude and pace of the Monaghan forwards is the very opposite of ours. Looked to turn Donegal defenders every chance they got. You might criticise some of the Donegal defending but Monaghan at least asked the questions of them. Not once did we even attempt to do similar to the Longford men.

Agree it's very laboured. The Ulster final performance was excellent and hard to get to that standard again.
But there was laboured displays leading up to then, against Antrim, Down in first half.
The 2 League games after lockdown against Kildare and Roscommon weren't great performance.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Look-Up! on May 23, 2021, 08:31:25 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on May 23, 2021, 08:12:05 PM
Quote from: Look-Up! on May 23, 2021, 01:40:58 PM
Good result in the end but a laboured performance and result was up in the air for long periods. Defence again looked suspect at times and thought our forwards offered nothing when getting on inside ball. Not once did we take a man on, ball repeatedly came back out to be recycled. All very boring and predictable. We need a spark from somewhere, something along the lines of what Thomas Galligan gave us last year.

Derry seem to be flying, we'll have to up it big time to avoid a hammering. You never know, sometimes early league form can sway wildly depending on workload teams are taking on. You often see true form after the third game or so, so I'm hoping Cavan click for next week. But we do look very flat and worryingly all the parts of a Division 3 team. Doubt we'd even look out of place in Division 4, a far cry from the heady days of last November.

Championship less than 7 weeks away, we need a lot of improvement. Watched a bit of Monaghan Donegal yesterday. Lightyears ahead of us in terms of what they offer on the ball upfront. Attitude and pace of the Monaghan forwards is the very opposite of ours. Looked to turn Donegal defenders every chance they got. You might criticise some of the Donegal defending but Monaghan at least asked the questions of them. Not once did we even attempt to do similar to the Longford men.

Agree it's very laboured. The Ulster final performance was excellent and hard to get to that standard again.
But there was laboured displays leading up to then, against Antrim, Down in first half.
The 2 League games after lockdown against Kildare and Roscommon weren't great performance.

Agreed. Similar to last year in many ways. Thomas Galligan was a major catalyst when introduced in those games and seemed to light a fire under the team. Seem stuck in a rut again, everyone seems to be waiting for someone else to get us going, no one taking the bull by the horns.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on May 23, 2021, 10:27:53 PM
I didn't think yesterday was all that bad. I thought there was a good shift put in by most players, I thought there was a sense of urgency displayed at most stages in the game. Longford kicked some big scores which kept them in the game and we kicked a lot of poor wides which helped that too. As usual we were most dangerous when breaking forward and delivery into the full forward line resulted in a lot of recycled ball. When we go long it's rarely followed by a man running at the defender or laying of to runners off the shoulder.

I was very impressed with Cian Reilly yesterday, thought it was a great display from a youngster. Good positioning and man marking. Paddy Lynch looks talented but maybe a bit overly casual at times? James Smith was brilliant for the first half, think he's alright if social media is anything to go by.

There seems to be a general sense that we'll be lucky to avoid a hiding from Derry. I know they're going well but are they at that level yet?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on May 23, 2021, 10:30:20 PM
Quote from: Westside on May 23, 2021, 10:27:53 PM
I didn't think yesterday was all that bad. I thought there was a good shift put in by most players, I thought there was a sense of urgency displayed at most stages in the game. Longford kicked some big scores which kept them in the game and we kicked a lot of poor wides which helped that too. As usual we were most dangerous when breaking forward and delivery into the full forward line resulted in a lot of recycled ball. When we go long it's rarely followed by a man running at the defender or laying of to runners off the shoulder.

I was very impressed with Cian Reilly yesterday, thought it was a great display from a youngster. Good positioning and man marking. Paddy Lynch looks talented but maybe a bit overly casual at times? James Smith was brilliant for the first half, think he's alright if social media is anything to go by.

There seems to be a general sense that we'll be lucky to avoid a hiding from Derry. I know they're going well but are they at that level yet?

Derry were in division 4 last yr, let's not build them up to be all ireland contenders just yet. If cavan bring their 2nd half performance to the game they can and will win.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on May 24, 2021, 08:36:16 AM
It was 2 year's ago Derry were in Division 4. They missed out on promotion to Cork and Down last year.
They aren't All Ireland contenders but playing at a good tempo.
Cavan were still sloppy in the second half giving away the penalty. They were the better team but need an improvement against Derry.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on May 24, 2021, 09:25:20 AM
Quote from: rodney trotter on May 24, 2021, 08:36:16 AM
It was 2 year's ago Derry were in Division 4. They missed out on promotion to Cork and Down last year.
They aren't All Ireland contenders but playing at a good tempo.
Cavan were still sloppy in the second half giving away the penalty. They were the better team but need an improvement against Derry.

Yes but you get my point, we are Ulster champions and Derry are going well for sure but in Div 3. I read people saying Derry will hammer us! That should not be the case. And yes we do need an improvement, what we brought to the 2nd half against Longford would be a start.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dreadnought on May 24, 2021, 10:50:11 AM
I think this Derry game is where Graham will come alive. Those first 2 games were typical league shadow boxing, and he has tried out a good few players, positions and tactics. This Derry match has more of a look of a championship match, in that there's a lot at stake than just a usual league match. Win and you go forward to the semis, lose and you're most likely into the relegation playoff. Graham will have been aiming for this match either way as a continual build up to the championship, and I think we'll be better prepared and ready for that. Derry are built up a little bit more than they are I think, and that's fine by us when we're not favourites and when a team thinks they'll come easy by us. They are a recent Div 4 and Div 3 team for a reason, even though they are playing well. They won't run through us like they did Longford and Fermanagh, as we have the players to shut them down more. They had the look of flat track bullies who didn't take their foot off. They'll not get it all their own way on Saturday like their last 2 games and they haven't been in a battle yet this year, the likes of Fermanagh game and Longford at times will stand to us more I think. No doubt it will be tight, but hoping for a slender Cavan win.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dreadnought on May 24, 2021, 10:52:45 AM
Also any word on Ciaran Holla? Didn't look good, but hoping he's ok. He's the type of lad we need the coming weeks...
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Look-Up! on May 24, 2021, 12:54:28 PM
It's a match we really need to win but I'd be a bit worried. We needed a similar reaction against Kildare and Roscommon last year but were very flat. Derry will be the best opposition we have met so far this year, that's very clear to me. I wouldn't read too much into where they were 2 years ago. They are a great footballing county but infighting and pettiness has worked against them. The new manager seems to have them going well again and if he can get the best players in the county to buy into their cause then their transformation will be very rapid.
They have always produces class players, and still do. I don't think anyone in Cavan need reminding of their current crop, they have outperformed us often enough at underage the last few years. Make no mistake, any serious footballing men in Derry will see Division 2 as a minimum of where they should be at and next Saturday they will be out to make a statement.
Talk of shadow boxing and being in control of where we need to be, or having one eye on the championship is fanciful IMO. We needed to hit the ground running this year and move up, we haven't so far. Any anything other than a huge improvement in what we've seen so far will have us looking at a relegation playoff.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on May 24, 2021, 05:29:56 PM
I watched the Derry game. They are a big athletic side, the sort we usually struggle against. Well organised defensively. Look very dangerous going forward with hard running and men coming off the shoulder. McGuigan seems to be the big threat up front. Fermanagh though were absolutely awful, couldn't get the basics right. Leaving men completely unmarked in their own full forward line. They didn't manage to put anywhere the same defensive press as they did in the Cavan game.

Derry are going well and momentum counts for a lot but I have yet to see enough from Derry to worry about a hammering. If we go after this game like we should, Derry deep down know they're through and that might work in our favour.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Look-Up! on May 24, 2021, 06:32:28 PM
I suppose next week will tell the tale. I just worry when I hear Derry almost being dismissed as Div 4 opposition and talk of us as Ulster Champions. The Polo Grounds will have as much bearing on next week as the Athletic Grounds.

The plan for 2021 was to hit the ground running and build on last year. Longford and Fermanagh, though always tough opposition were must win games. There's no spin on it to paint what we've seen so far as anything other than a massive let down. Derry were in the same boat going into the season and have kept with the script. We need to snap out of our lethargy and get with the programme quick. I worry with what I've seen so far. I haven't seen too much building on last year. A lot of lads blooded last year seem to have been discarded and we're back to blooding kids. There's also the question marks over injuries and discipline. Depending on team available and referee, player indifference and a couple of black cards (not out of the question), I wouldn't be too dismissive of a hiding. We got one last year off Armagh.

Maybe I'm worrying too much but a massive step up is needed for next week. Derry have the bit between the teeth and will be all out for a win. If the shoe was on the other foot we would be looking to give them a lesson and keep momentum for the playoffs. Teams lose all the time and Derry are a decent outfit so I'll not be too unforgiving if we lose as long as we put in a big performance in a quality game. Anything less than that and we're sleep walking towards relegation.

It's not unthinkable for a team to free fall from top to bottom division. It has happened very recently to both Westmeath and Derry. And if we think we're too good for it to happen to us then all the ingredients will be there. If Derry trim us and Longford don't get us out of jail, then we could be going to somewhere like Limerick God forbid, a not too happy hunting ground for us. And if we're marching to the tune of "we are the Ulster Champions yes we are", then I'd be watching from behind the sofa.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on May 24, 2021, 06:35:49 PM
 Shane McGuigan has caused Cavan trouble since he was a Minor in 2015. He's a really good footballer. They have Gareth McKinless back this year at Centre back, hadn't played in a few years with Derry.

I don't think anyone has really said Derry will hammer Cavan, but they will be a step up from what Cavan have played. Conor Glass in his firs year back from Afl moving very well.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on May 24, 2021, 09:00:16 PM
Quote from: Look-Up! on May 24, 2021, 06:32:28 PM
I suppose next week will tell the tale. I just worry when I hear Derry almost being dismissed as Div 4 opposition and talk of us as Ulster Champions. The Polo Grounds will have as much bearing on next week as the Athletic Grounds.

The plan for 2021 was to hit the ground running and build on last year. Longford and Fermanagh, though always tough opposition were must win games. There's no spin on it to paint what we've seen so far as anything other than a massive let down. Derry were in the same boat going into the season and have kept with the script. We need to snap out of our lethargy and get with the programme quick. I worry with what I've seen so far. I haven't seen too much building on last year. A lot of lads blooded last year seem to have been discarded and we're back to blooding kids. There's also the question marks over injuries and discipline. Depending on team available and referee, player indifference and a couple of black cards (not out of the question), I wouldn't be too dismissive of a hiding. We got one last year off Armagh.

Maybe I'm worrying too much but a massive step up is needed for next week. Derry have the bit between the teeth and will be all out for a win. If the shoe was on the other foot we would be looking to give them a lesson and keep momentum for the playoffs. Teams lose all the time and Derry are a decent outfit so I'll not be too unforgiving if we lose as long as we put in a big performance in a quality game. Anything less than that and we're sleep walking towards relegation.

It's not unthinkable for a team to free fall from top to bottom division. It has happened very recently to both Westmeath and Derry. And if we think we're too good for it to happen to us then all the ingredients will be there. If Derry trim us and Longford don't get us out of jail, then we could be going to somewhere like Limerick God forbid, a not too happy hunting ground for us. And if we're marching to the tune of "we are the Ulster Champions yes we are", then I'd be watching from behind the sofa.

I dont think it's fair to start using the Ulster title as a stick to beat the team with. I personally dont think we've seen any signs of arrogance or lack of effort from the team so far. No sign that they let the Ulster win go to their heads or thought that they could show up and stroll through this league.
We went into a local derby against a highly motivated and well organised Fermanagh side and lost by a single point. Let's not turn on them over it.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Look-Up! on May 24, 2021, 09:43:58 PM
Quote from: Westside on May 24, 2021, 09:00:16 PM
Quote from: Look-Up! on May 24, 2021, 06:32:28 PM
I suppose next week will tell the tale. I just worry when I hear Derry almost being dismissed as Div 4 opposition and talk of us as Ulster Champions. The Polo Grounds will have as much bearing on next week as the Athletic Grounds.

The plan for 2021 was to hit the ground running and build on last year. Longford and Fermanagh, though always tough opposition were must win games. There's no spin on it to paint what we've seen so far as anything other than a massive let down. Derry were in the same boat going into the season and have kept with the script. We need to snap out of our lethargy and get with the programme quick. I worry with what I've seen so far. I haven't seen too much building on last year. A lot of lads blooded last year seem to have been discarded and we're back to blooding kids. There's also the question marks over injuries and discipline. Depending on team available and referee, player indifference and a couple of black cards (not out of the question), I wouldn't be too dismissive of a hiding. We got one last year off Armagh.

Maybe I'm worrying too much but a massive step up is needed for next week. Derry have the bit between the teeth and will be all out for a win. If the shoe was on the other foot we would be looking to give them a lesson and keep momentum for the playoffs. Teams lose all the time and Derry are a decent outfit so I'll not be too unforgiving if we lose as long as we put in a big performance in a quality game. Anything less than that and we're sleep walking towards relegation.

It's not unthinkable for a team to free fall from top to bottom division. It has happened very recently to both Westmeath and Derry. And if we think we're too good for it to happen to us then all the ingredients will be there. If Derry trim us and Longford don't get us out of jail, then we could be going to somewhere like Limerick God forbid, a not too happy hunting ground for us. And if we're marching to the tune of "we are the Ulster Champions yes we are", then I'd be watching from behind the sofa.

I dont think it's fair to start using the Ulster title as a stick to beat the team with. I personally dont think we've seen any signs of arrogance or lack of effort from the team so far. No sign that they let the Ulster win go to their heads or thought that they could show up and stroll through this league.
We went into a local derby against a highly motivated and well organised Fermanagh side and lost by a single point. Let's not turn on them over it.
I'm not turning on them and I'm sure they're putting in a massive effort. We lost to Fermanagh, was always a possibility so no use crying over spilt milk now. Beat Longford so points in the bag, back on track somewhat. But next weekend is massive and management need to have the team in correct frame of mind. Need to approach it like a Championship game, same way we needed to approach the league from the start owing to the short schedule and tiny margin for error. Haven't seen it so far but here's hoping we see a bit of the fire back.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Look-Up! on May 24, 2021, 10:01:58 PM
What are peoples' opinion on the system we've seen so far. Owing to the short league and opposition it would probably have been a bit risky to go too open but it is Division 3 and a chance to develop on attacking play and getting younger forwards a bit of confidence. But we've been very conservative so far and more or less setup like we're playing Donegal, minus the intensity.

I'm not sure this is good for us long term, difficult to develop inside forwards if they're expected to defend all the way back to their own 45 all the time. I doubt we'll see much change against Derry but it would be nice if we took a few more risks and left a few more forwards inside to expend their energy on winning ball and taking on defenders.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dreadnought on May 25, 2021, 08:21:34 AM
Quote from: Look-Up! on May 24, 2021, 06:32:28 PM
I suppose next week will tell the tale. I just worry when I hear Derry almost being dismissed as Div 4 opposition and talk of us as Ulster Champions. The Polo Grounds will have as much bearing on next week as the Athletic Grounds.

The plan for 2021 was to hit the ground running and build on last year. Longford and Fermanagh, though always tough opposition were must win games. There's no spin on it to paint what we've seen so far as anything other than a massive let down. Derry were in the same boat going into the season and have kept with the script. We need to snap out of our lethargy and get with the programme quick. I worry with what I've seen so far. I haven't seen too much building on last year. A lot of lads blooded last year seem to have been discarded and we're back to blooding kids. There's also the question marks over injuries and discipline. Depending on team available and referee, player indifference and a couple of black cards (not out of the question), I wouldn't be too dismissive of a hiding. We got one last year off Armagh.

Maybe I'm worrying too much but a massive step up is needed for next week. Derry have the bit between the teeth and will be all out for a win. If the shoe was on the other foot we would be looking to give them a lesson and keep momentum for the playoffs. Teams lose all the time and Derry are a decent outfit so I'll not be too unforgiving if we lose as long as we put in a big performance in a quality game. Anything less than that and we're sleep walking towards relegation.

It's not unthinkable for a team to free fall from top to bottom division. It has happened very recently to both Westmeath and Derry. And if we think we're too good for it to happen to us then all the ingredients will be there. If Derry trim us and Longford don't get us out of jail, then we could be going to somewhere like Limerick God forbid, a not too happy hunting ground for us. And if we're marching to the tune of "we are the Ulster Champions yes we are", then I'd be watching from behind the sofa.

I think you're being unduly negative, especially with a number of factors to think of first. Derry are way further down the line than us this season. With regulations in the North, they've been training and played challenges far longer this season than us (and beyond that too if you listen to rumours). But even so, they look to be peaking early. Graham has always said League is a means to an end, but that he's not peaking for it. Sure we want to win, but you can see he's tried out a lot of new players, positions and so on. He'll be aiming for Tyrone and no further. Let others go hell for leather and peak for the league.

And saying that, Derry haven't been tested yet. Those wins by that margin don't mean much, as they haven't been in a 70+ minute match yet. They haven't been in a fight yet, so we don't know what they'll be like when a team actually fronts up against them. Make no mistake that Cavan will be a different level to what they've faced in a while. We've been getting better, getting back up to speed after the highs last year and learning about ourselves again, while they've not even been tested yet. There's a reason Cavan are still slight favourites with the bookies once you look at all factors. Derry are also already through to the semis bar a huge point swing and other things that won't happen. You might even see them ease up and try a few new players themselves. Cavan's need is greater, and all things considered it'll be close based on a number of factors.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on May 25, 2021, 09:00:47 AM
Quote from: Dreadnought on May 25, 2021, 08:21:34 AM
Quote from: Look-Up! on May 24, 2021, 06:32:28 PM
I suppose next week will tell the tale. I just worry when I hear Derry almost being dismissed as Div 4 opposition and talk of us as Ulster Champions. The Polo Grounds will have as much bearing on next week as the Athletic Grounds.

The plan for 2021 was to hit the ground running and build on last year. Longford and Fermanagh, though always tough opposition were must win games. There's no spin on it to paint what we've seen so far as anything other than a massive let down. Derry were in the same boat going into the season and have kept with the script. We need to snap out of our lethargy and get with the programme quick. I worry with what I've seen so far. I haven't seen too much building on last year. A lot of lads blooded last year seem to have been discarded and we're back to blooding kids. There's also the question marks over injuries and discipline. Depending on team available and referee, player indifference and a couple of black cards (not out of the question), I wouldn't be too dismissive of a hiding. We got one last year off Armagh.

Maybe I'm worrying too much but a massive step up is needed for next week. Derry have the bit between the teeth and will be all out for a win. If the shoe was on the other foot we would be looking to give them a lesson and keep momentum for the playoffs. Teams lose all the time and Derry are a decent outfit so I'll not be too unforgiving if we lose as long as we put in a big performance in a quality game. Anything less than that and we're sleep walking towards relegation.

It's not unthinkable for a team to free fall from top to bottom division. It has happened very recently to both Westmeath and Derry. And if we think we're too good for it to happen to us then all the ingredients will be there. If Derry trim us and Longford don't get us out of jail, then we could be going to somewhere like Limerick God forbid, a not too happy hunting ground for us. And if we're marching to the tune of "we are the Ulster Champions yes we are", then I'd be watching from behind the sofa.

I think you're being unduly negative, especially with a number of factors to think of first. Derry are way further down the line than us this season. With regulations in the North, they've been training and played challenges far longer this season than us (and beyond that too if you listen to rumours). But even so, they look to be peaking early. Graham has always said League is a means to an end, but that he's not peaking for it. Sure we want to win, but you can see he's tried out a lot of new players, positions and so on. He'll be aiming for Tyrone and no further. Let others go hell for leather and peak for the league.

And saying that, Derry haven't been tested yet. Those wins by that margin don't mean much, as they haven't been in a 70+ minute match yet. They haven't been in a fight yet, so we don't know what they'll be like when a team actually fronts up against them. Make no mistake that Cavan will be a different level to what they've faced in a while. We've been getting better, getting back up to speed after the highs last year and learning about ourselves again, while they've not even been tested yet. There's a reason Cavan are still slight favourites with the bookies once you look at all factors. Derry are also already through to the semis bar a huge point swing and other things that won't happen. You might even see them ease up and try a few new players themselves. Cavan's need is greater, and all things considered it'll be close based on a number of factors.

Bookies have Cavan as marginal favourites. I would agree with your assessment there Dreadnought. I just hope Mickey is respecting this game as I personally do think getting out of Div3 should be a priority for us
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dreadnought on May 25, 2021, 09:05:22 AM
Quote from: Itchy on May 25, 2021, 09:00:47 AM
Quote from: Dreadnought on May 25, 2021, 08:21:34 AM
Quote from: Look-Up! on May 24, 2021, 06:32:28 PM
I suppose next week will tell the tale. I just worry when I hear Derry almost being dismissed as Div 4 opposition and talk of us as Ulster Champions. The Polo Grounds will have as much bearing on next week as the Athletic Grounds.

The plan for 2021 was to hit the ground running and build on last year. Longford and Fermanagh, though always tough opposition were must win games. There's no spin on it to paint what we've seen so far as anything other than a massive let down. Derry were in the same boat going into the season and have kept with the script. We need to snap out of our lethargy and get with the programme quick. I worry with what I've seen so far. I haven't seen too much building on last year. A lot of lads blooded last year seem to have been discarded and we're back to blooding kids. There's also the question marks over injuries and discipline. Depending on team available and referee, player indifference and a couple of black cards (not out of the question), I wouldn't be too dismissive of a hiding. We got one last year off Armagh.

Maybe I'm worrying too much but a massive step up is needed for next week. Derry have the bit between the teeth and will be all out for a win. If the shoe was on the other foot we would be looking to give them a lesson and keep momentum for the playoffs. Teams lose all the time and Derry are a decent outfit so I'll not be too unforgiving if we lose as long as we put in a big performance in a quality game. Anything less than that and we're sleep walking towards relegation.

It's not unthinkable for a team to free fall from top to bottom division. It has happened very recently to both Westmeath and Derry. And if we think we're too good for it to happen to us then all the ingredients will be there. If Derry trim us and Longford don't get us out of jail, then we could be going to somewhere like Limerick God forbid, a not too happy hunting ground for us. And if we're marching to the tune of "we are the Ulster Champions yes we are", then I'd be watching from behind the sofa.

I think you're being unduly negative, especially with a number of factors to think of first. Derry are way further down the line than us this season. With regulations in the North, they've been training and played challenges far longer this season than us (and beyond that too if you listen to rumours). But even so, they look to be peaking early. Graham has always said League is a means to an end, but that he's not peaking for it. Sure we want to win, but you can see he's tried out a lot of new players, positions and so on. He'll be aiming for Tyrone and no further. Let others go hell for leather and peak for the league.

And saying that, Derry haven't been tested yet. Those wins by that margin don't mean much, as they haven't been in a 70+ minute match yet. They haven't been in a fight yet, so we don't know what they'll be like when a team actually fronts up against them. Make no mistake that Cavan will be a different level to what they've faced in a while. We've been getting better, getting back up to speed after the highs last year and learning about ourselves again, while they've not even been tested yet. There's a reason Cavan are still slight favourites with the bookies once you look at all factors. Derry are also already through to the semis bar a huge point swing and other things that won't happen. You might even see them ease up and try a few new players themselves. Cavan's need is greater, and all things considered it'll be close based on a number of factors.

Bookies have Cavan as marginal favourites. I would agree with your assessment there Dreadnought. I just hope Mickey is respecting this game as I personally do think getting out of Div3 should be a priority for us
In fairness, I do too. I was devastated we got relegated last year, I do think we need to be up in the top 2 divisions at all times. I think Mickey will respect it. This has all the hallmarks of a championship game as there is so much more on the line than a usual league game. I feel we will see what we're really about this weekend, and we're gearing upwards, improving all the time. Think we're getting to a good place
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Look-Up! on May 25, 2021, 12:46:02 PM
We are where we are and the only way we can put things right is through our next match but I don't see the unduly negative in what I've said. If everyone is honest with themselves promotion and winning the league trophy was expected as a minimum from a lot of the posters on here.

We're not exactly off track yet but Saturday is massive and Derry are formidable. They are a team on the up, have some very good young players coming into their prime and will not be taking the foot off the gas. They ran Armagh very close last year, a team who are not exactly embarrassing themselves in Division 1 at present. I don't see how their performances against Longford or Fermanagh can be viewed any other way than as a team operating at a far higher level than us at present.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dreadnought on May 25, 2021, 02:44:47 PM
Quote from: Look-Up! on May 25, 2021, 12:46:02 PM
We are where we are and the only way we can put things right is through our next match but I don't see the unduly negative in what I've said. If everyone is honest with themselves promotion and winning the league trophy was expected as a minimum from a lot of the posters on here.

We're not exactly off track yet but Saturday is massive and Derry are formidable. They are a team on the up, have some very good young players coming into their prime and will not be taking the foot off the gas. They ran Armagh very close last year, a team who are not exactly embarrassing themselves in Division 1 at present. I don't see how their performances against Longford or Fermanagh can be viewed any other way than as a team operating at a far higher level than us at present.
I just can't agree with your last line there. On what basis are you saying this? 2 thrashings? That tells us precisely nothing, other than they got a good start and held on and piled on more scores on teams that practically had given up by then. It is worthless in what it tells us nothing about their conditioning, fitness, ability to take clutch scores, ability to go into the red for 70+ minutes, playing when under pressure etc. Derry are playing well, no doubt about it, but Longford and Fermanagh away from Brewster are nothing to crow about just yet. Lets be honest, Cavan have players that have been at and can get to a higher level and they'll not get things so easy. They'll know they're in a fight in this match and won't just get to rack up a lead away from home and then cruise home on it. They've not shown that level of play against a team close to them or bigger just yet. I really hope they're thinking like you on Saturday, as we'll beat them if they think they've have it easy and as good as those 2 matches...

I'm by no means saying Cavan will win by the way, but we've been tested and dug deep, and I'm confident we can put in a performance and can either match or go above Derry which we've shown we're capable off. It'll be close anyway
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Look-Up! on May 25, 2021, 03:32:34 PM
Quote from: Dreadnought on May 25, 2021, 02:44:47 PM
Quote from: Look-Up! on May 25, 2021, 12:46:02 PM
We are where we are and the only way we can put things right is through our next match but I don't see the unduly negative in what I've said. If everyone is honest with themselves promotion and winning the league trophy was expected as a minimum from a lot of the posters on here.

We're not exactly off track yet but Saturday is massive and Derry are formidable. They are a team on the up, have some very good young players coming into their prime and will not be taking the foot off the gas. They ran Armagh very close last year, a team who are not exactly embarrassing themselves in Division 1 at present. I don't see how their performances against Longford or Fermanagh can be viewed any other way than as a team operating at a far higher level than us at present.
I just can't agree with your last line there. On what basis are you saying this? 2 thrashings? That tells us precisely nothing, other than they got a good start and held on and piled on more scores on teams that practically had given up by then. It is worthless in what it tells us nothing about their conditioning, fitness, ability to take clutch scores, ability to go into the red for 70+ minutes, playing when under pressure etc. Derry are playing well, no doubt about it, but Longford and Fermanagh away from Brewster are nothing to crow about just yet. Lets be honest, Cavan have players that have been at and can get to a higher level and they'll not get things so easy. They'll know they're in a fight in this match and won't just get to rack up a lead away from home and then cruise home on it. They've not shown that level of play against a team close to them or bigger just yet. I really hope they're thinking like you on Saturday, as we'll beat them if they think they've have it easy and as good as those 2 matches...

I'm by no means saying Cavan will win by the way, but we've been tested and dug deep, and I'm confident we can put in a performance and can either match or go above Derry which we've shown we're capable off. It'll be close anyway
It's very simple, it's going on current form. Come Saturday evening we can reassess form again as it can swing wildly in league but at the minute they are the form team. We played exactly the same teams so to brush them off as untested and us as battle hardened is ridiculous.
They may hit a wall, they may only be warming up, we might perform as we have been so far or we might up it massively, we'll know better after the weekend. But as it stands a major improvement from us is needed.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dreadnought on May 25, 2021, 04:16:26 PM
Quote from: Look-Up! on May 25, 2021, 03:32:34 PM
Quote from: Dreadnought on May 25, 2021, 02:44:47 PM
Quote from: Look-Up! on May 25, 2021, 12:46:02 PM
We are where we are and the only way we can put things right is through our next match but I don't see the unduly negative in what I've said. If everyone is honest with themselves promotion and winning the league trophy was expected as a minimum from a lot of the posters on here.

We're not exactly off track yet but Saturday is massive and Derry are formidable. They are a team on the up, have some very good young players coming into their prime and will not be taking the foot off the gas. They ran Armagh very close last year, a team who are not exactly embarrassing themselves in Division 1 at present. I don't see how their performances against Longford or Fermanagh can be viewed any other way than as a team operating at a far higher level than us at present.
I just can't agree with your last line there. On what basis are you saying this? 2 thrashings? That tells us precisely nothing, other than they got a good start and held on and piled on more scores on teams that practically had given up by then. It is worthless in what it tells us nothing about their conditioning, fitness, ability to take clutch scores, ability to go into the red for 70+ minutes, playing when under pressure etc. Derry are playing well, no doubt about it, but Longford and Fermanagh away from Brewster are nothing to crow about just yet. Lets be honest, Cavan have players that have been at and can get to a higher level and they'll not get things so easy. They'll know they're in a fight in this match and won't just get to rack up a lead away from home and then cruise home on it. They've not shown that level of play against a team close to them or bigger just yet. I really hope they're thinking like you on Saturday, as we'll beat them if they think they've have it easy and as good as those 2 matches...

I'm by no means saying Cavan will win by the way, but we've been tested and dug deep, and I'm confident we can put in a performance and can either match or go above Derry which we've shown we're capable off. It'll be close anyway
It's very simple, it's going on current form. Come Saturday evening we can reassess form again as it can swing wildly in league but at the minute they are the form team. We played exactly the same teams so to brush them off as untested and us as battle hardened is ridiculous.
They may hit a wall, they may only be warming up, we might perform as we have been so far or we might up it massively, we'll know better after the weekend. But as it stands a major improvement from us is needed.
You're missing my point. Sure they were the same teams, but they were clearly not the same games. Derry had next to nothing to do bar the start in both games, and could coast on a lead. Cavan were in a battle from the off against Fermanagh, and although stretched the lead at times v Longford, Longford came back into it and we had to work hard the whole game to finish them off. The 2 games so far for Derry and Cavan could not have been more different. Who do you think learned more about themselves in those games? Don't think Derry would anyway. And ask Mickey Graham at this stage which type of games he wants in his league, and I'm sure he'd say 2 battles, rather than 2 facile wins. My point is that Graham uses the league for learning. And we've done that so far. Next week has the look of a championship match with something at stake for us (although not as much for Derry) so we should see us wanting it more, and our natural progression through the league should see us getting stronger again. I think we'll sneak it.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Look-Up! on May 25, 2021, 04:26:49 PM
Quote from: Dreadnought on May 25, 2021, 04:16:26 PM
Quote from: Look-Up! on May 25, 2021, 03:32:34 PM
Quote from: Dreadnought on May 25, 2021, 02:44:47 PM
Quote from: Look-Up! on May 25, 2021, 12:46:02 PM
We are where we are and the only way we can put things right is through our next match but I don't see the unduly negative in what I've said. If everyone is honest with themselves promotion and winning the league trophy was expected as a minimum from a lot of the posters on here.

We're not exactly off track yet but Saturday is massive and Derry are formidable. They are a team on the up, have some very good young players coming into their prime and will not be taking the foot off the gas. They ran Armagh very close last year, a team who are not exactly embarrassing themselves in Division 1 at present. I don't see how their performances against Longford or Fermanagh can be viewed any other way than as a team operating at a far higher level than us at present.
I just can't agree with your last line there. On what basis are you saying this? 2 thrashings? That tells us precisely nothing, other than they got a good start and held on and piled on more scores on teams that practically had given up by then. It is worthless in what it tells us nothing about their conditioning, fitness, ability to take clutch scores, ability to go into the red for 70+ minutes, playing when under pressure etc. Derry are playing well, no doubt about it, but Longford and Fermanagh away from Brewster are nothing to crow about just yet. Lets be honest, Cavan have players that have been at and can get to a higher level and they'll not get things so easy. They'll know they're in a fight in this match and won't just get to rack up a lead away from home and then cruise home on it. They've not shown that level of play against a team close to them or bigger just yet. I really hope they're thinking like you on Saturday, as we'll beat them if they think they've have it easy and as good as those 2 matches...

I'm by no means saying Cavan will win by the way, but we've been tested and dug deep, and I'm confident we can put in a performance and can either match or go above Derry which we've shown we're capable off. It'll be close anyway
It's very simple, it's going on current form. Come Saturday evening we can reassess form again as it can swing wildly in league but at the minute they are the form team. We played exactly the same teams so to brush them off as untested and us as battle hardened is ridiculous.
They may hit a wall, they may only be warming up, we might perform as we have been so far or we might up it massively, we'll know better after the weekend. But as it stands a major improvement from us is needed.
You're missing my point. Sure they were the same teams, but they were clearly not the same games. Derry had next to nothing to do bar the start in both games, and could coast on a lead. Cavan were in a battle from the off against Fermanagh, and although stretched the lead at times v Longford, Longford came back into it and we had to work hard the whole game to finish them off. The 2 games so far for Derry and Cavan could not have been more different. Who do you think learned more about themselves in those games? Don't think Derry would anyway. And ask Mickey Graham at this stage which type of games he wants in his league, and I'm sure he'd say 2 battles, rather than 2 facile wins. My point is that Graham uses the league for learning. And we've done that so far. Next week has the look of a championship match with something at stake for us (although not as much for Derry) so we should see us wanting it more, and our natural progression through the league should see us getting stronger again. I think we'll sneak it.
I know exactly what you're saying but it's conjecture. Maybe Derry are untested for a reason. And the score line flattered us against a less experienced Fermanagh. 

You said you hope Derry are thinking along the same lines as me. Well I hope Graham is thinking the same. So we'll agree on that, next week needs to be taken as a championship match.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dreadnought on May 26, 2021, 07:49:00 AM
Quote from: Look-Up! on May 25, 2021, 04:26:49 PM
I know exactly what you're saying but it's conjecture. Maybe Derry are untested for a reason. And the score line flattered us against a less experienced Fermanagh. 

You said you hope Derry are thinking along the same lines as me. Well I hope Graham is thinking the same. So we'll agree on that, next week needs to be taken as a championship match.

Hopefully so, and with what's at stake, I hope Graham has them taking this one as championship. As a win can lead to a semi, a final, and then Tyrone. There's a nice trajectory there and if they now start aiming towards that
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on May 26, 2021, 09:32:59 AM
Unfortunately I believe Holla is out for the season. Smith had concussion.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dreadnought on May 26, 2021, 10:08:02 AM
Quote from: Itchy on May 26, 2021, 09:32:59 AM
Unfortunately I believe Holla is out for the season. Smith had concussion.
Ah you're kidding? Did think Holla looked bad when he went down. What's the injury? I'd imagine Smith will be back after this week then...
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on May 26, 2021, 10:26:38 AM
Quote from: Dreadnought on May 26, 2021, 10:08:02 AM
Quote from: Itchy on May 26, 2021, 09:32:59 AM
Unfortunately I believe Holla is out for the season. Smith had concussion.
Ah you're kidding? Did think Holla looked bad when he went down. What's the injury? I'd imagine Smith will be back after this week then...

I heard cruciate but I wouldnt take that as gospel. But whatever it is it is not good.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on May 26, 2021, 11:01:39 AM
Gutted for Ciaran Brady if that's true. A key player for us. With him and Smith out next weekend it gets much harder.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Look-Up! on May 26, 2021, 01:09:39 PM
Very bad news if true not just for weekend but long term. Always a difficult injury to return from especially when hitting later 20s. Smith will be a loss around the middle too if unavailable.

Derry, from what little I know of them, seem very strong around the middle, are sound defensively and have strong runners through the middle. So those two players we could be doing with. They might be in transition and only building so are no world beaters yet but they seem to be a coming team. The kick up the arse they got from dropping to Division 4 may have been the catalyst for them to finally get their house in order. They are very strong at colleges, very strong club scene, have been in 4 of the last 5 minor finals winning 2 (were at semi stage last year before cancellation) and 3 of the last 4 U20/1 finals winning 1. I'd imagine Division 2 is their minimum target and Gallagher would have no love for us.

Hopefully the rumours on Holla are not as serious as that but either way we can rule him out for weekend. Timoney or Murray may get the nod and if Thomas Galligan is available we should have a decent starting team. Fortune another option and if fit G Smith would be a big addition. Assuming most of those available it would be good to see Galligan starting in the middle and wouldn't be surprised to see some shuffling of positions, maybe Clarke out to half backs, O Kiernan possibly to half forwards. Whatever the positions we'll be looking to contain and break with speed but it will be vital for us to stop their runners. Gunner I'd imagine will have a big role to play. It will be very tough too for our inside forwards but we will be relying on Lynch for frees and whatever else he can muster from play but I doubt there'll be very much space in there. We'll probably look to get most of our scores from running through. Would be great to see us nick a few goals, think that's lacking from our game. Galligan always seems to be busier than his opposite number.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on May 29, 2021, 09:56:21 AM
Well if you can believe the team listed in the program none of our missing big guns are back this weekend which means we are up against it today.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Look-Up! on May 30, 2021, 02:02:33 PM
 Result no real surprise yesterday. We put in a good effort, never gave up and looked the more wily team which kept us in it but Derry much better footballing team, much more positive in their approach to game, more mobile and superior forwards. Should have been 10 up inside first quarter, Galligan kept us in it yet again. We eventually settled plus with a bit of Derry naivety and wastefulness we inexplicably found ourselves in front coming up to half time. But you always felt Derry had another gear in them. Timing of the goals were very good for us, the second one especially coupled with the chance afterwards could have stole it but would have been very much against the run. Big shout out to Martin Reilly for his role in two goals, great ball in for first one and very brave on second one but it is a worry the only way we look like hitting the onion bag is from Hail Marys in.

So a Division 4 relegation playoff it is and we are there very much on merit. Don't know where it is yet but Wicklow in Wicklow is no gimmie. We probably should have enough for them. They like ourselves are not exactly free scoring and struggle to surpass the 13/14 score mark but I think we should be able to do a bit better on our average against them and as long as we keep their goal count down, survive another year in Division 3.

Pretty shambolic preparation really for Championship, would not be confident at all. In fact we've regressed badly under this management in League, have failed to develop attacking play, have failed to develop forwards and I can't for the life of me figure out plan B. Doubt there is one TBH, apart from lumping it into the square if chasing a game. Most other scores from 40 yards or 50 if there's a gale blowing. Doubt it'll be enough in Omagh.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on May 30, 2021, 02:51:45 PM
Looking at Monaghan v Tyrone yesterday; the movement of their forwards, the lines they run, the urgency they show when they collect the ball inside is just light years ahead of our own.

This notion that Mickey only cares about championship is nonsense. If we lose to Tyrone that's the year over and the best we will have to show for it is a victory over Longford at home.

Mickey said he wanted to leave Cavan in a position where we could consistently compete with the top teams. As it stands, our attacking game plan looks more at home in Division 4 and players are being cycled through without much rhyme or reason. We have won 5 league games in 3 years is it? And are one loss away from a drop to Division 4 after being in Division 1 when he took over. The Ulster win can't be argued with but the overall trajectory of the side is not good.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Look-Up! on May 30, 2021, 04:25:26 PM
 Agreed, if I hear Graham referred to as a Championship manager one more time, I think my head will bust. Of course it was a fantastic achievement to win Ulster but the final win, which I would class as faultless regardless of where Donegal eyes were, glossed over a lot of very poor play from us over the campaign up to that and very slack game management from opposition. Plus some of the the worst beatings we have taken in Championship over a long number of years have been under this management team.

You are indeed correct Westside when you remind the remit under which the job was taken. All grand notions before a ball is kicked but all the excuses to beat the band once the final whistle blows. In that regard he talks more shite than Mattie McGleenan, at least the Tyrone man had far less excuses to come up with in the League. But it goes to show once you have the name of rising early you can lie in bed all day.

In his defence, I'm not sure he's fully in control of things there. Some of the decisions don't make sense and are not consistent with what they say they're trying to achieve long term. It all points to a bit of chaos behind the scenes. But worst case scenario, he's a lucky general at any rate and sometimes that's as good as any. Just hope he's kept some for July, we are going to need a lot of it.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on May 30, 2021, 07:35:17 PM
Alright lads, let's not fill the togs just yet. I was reading some gobshite on boards.ie saying Mickey shouldn't have discarded "Seanie" and should be talking to Martin Dunne and Shane Tierney. f**k me. Anyway it's not ideal to be staying in Div3 but let's not forget Mickey Graham has lost 1 game in 8 in Ulster since he took over, NO manager since Mick Higgins in the 60s done that. I think we need to have a bit more faith in the man and even if this yr doesn't go well I'll be giving him a pass and next yr to get at it again next year.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Look-Up! on May 30, 2021, 07:56:12 PM
Quote from: Itchy on May 30, 2021, 07:35:17 PM
Alright lads, let's not fill the togs just yet. I was reading some gobshite on boards.ie saying Mickey shouldn't have discarded "Seanie" and should be talking to Martin Dunne and Shane Tierney. f**k me. Anyway it's not ideal to be staying in Div3 but let's not forget Mickey Graham has lost 1 game in 8 in Ulster since he took over, NO manager since Mick Higgins in the 60s done that. I think we need to have a bit more faith in the man and even if this yr doesn't go well I'll be giving him a pass and next yr to get at it again next year.
Was there not enough assumptions made before Derry game? Who says we're staying in Div3?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on May 30, 2021, 09:13:17 PM
Quote from: Look-Up! on May 30, 2021, 07:56:12 PM
Quote from: Itchy on May 30, 2021, 07:35:17 PM
Alright lads, let's not fill the togs just yet. I was reading some gobshite on boards.ie saying Mickey shouldn't have discarded "Seanie" and should be talking to Martin Dunne and Shane Tierney. f**k me. Anyway it's not ideal to be staying in Div3 but let's not forget Mickey Graham has lost 1 game in 8 in Ulster since he took over, NO manager since Mick Higgins in the 60s done that. I think we need to have a bit more faith in the man and even if this yr doesn't go well I'll be giving him a pass and next yr to get at it again next year.
Was there not enough assumptions made before Derry game? Who says we're staying in Div3?
I say we will stay in Division 3. Did you have a memory black out since last year? You are like a vulture circling. Total over reaction your last post but at least you didn't call for the hero seanie to return and a long list of other failed County footballers with no ulster medal.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on May 30, 2021, 09:16:42 PM
Quote from: Itchy on May 30, 2021, 07:35:17 PM
Alright lads, let's not fill the togs just yet. I was reading some gobshite on boards.ie saying Mickey shouldn't have discarded "Seanie" and should be talking to Martin Dunne and Shane Tierney. f**k me. Anyway it's not ideal to be staying in Div3 but let's not forget Mickey Graham has lost 1 game in 8 in Ulster since he took over, NO manager since Mick Higgins in the 60s done that. I think we need to have a bit more faith in the man and even if this yr doesn't go well I'll be giving him a pass and next yr to get at it again next year.

No need to panic for sure. It's a bad year to judge them on this league. A full uninterrupted league will tell us more.

Martin Dunne jesus wept. He also raised serious questions about why Danny Cusack didnt mark McGuigan instead of the All Star full back.

Still think there are questions over management on the panel and team selection and inability to develop a functioning full forward line.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on May 30, 2021, 09:20:37 PM
Quote from: Westside on May 30, 2021, 09:16:42 PM
Quote from: Itchy on May 30, 2021, 07:35:17 PM
Alright lads, let's not fill the togs just yet. I was reading some gobshite on boards.ie saying Mickey shouldn't have discarded "Seanie" and should be talking to Martin Dunne and Shane Tierney. f**k me. Anyway it's not ideal to be staying in Div3 but let's not forget Mickey Graham has lost 1 game in 8 in Ulster since he took over, NO manager since Mick Higgins in the 60s done that. I think we need to have a bit more faith in the man and even if this yr doesn't go well I'll be giving him a pass and next yr to get at it again next year.

No need to panic for sure. It's a bad year to judge them on this league. A full uninterrupted league will tell us more.

Martin Dunne jesus wept. He also raised serious questions about why Danny Cusack didnt mark McGuigan instead of the All Star full back.

Still think there are questions over management on the panel and team selection and inability to develop a functioning full forward line.

In fairness its another bonkers year. 4 weeks from collective training to league start, very hard to do something fundamentally different in that time frame. I expect Graham not showing his hand either.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Look-Up! on May 30, 2021, 10:06:09 PM
Quote from: Itchy on May 30, 2021, 09:13:17 PM
Quote from: Look-Up! on May 30, 2021, 07:56:12 PM
Quote from: Itchy on May 30, 2021, 07:35:17 PM
Alright lads, let's not fill the togs just yet. I was reading some gobshite on boards.ie saying Mickey shouldn't have discarded "Seanie" and should be talking to Martin Dunne and Shane Tierney. f**k me. Anyway it's not ideal to be staying in Div3 but let's not forget Mickey Graham has lost 1 game in 8 in Ulster since he took over, NO manager since Mick Higgins in the 60s done that. I think we need to have a bit more faith in the man and even if this yr doesn't go well I'll be giving him a pass and next yr to get at it again next year.
Was there not enough assumptions made before Derry game? Who says we're staying in Div3?
I say we will stay in Division 3. Did you have a memory black out since last year? You are like a vulture circling. Total over reaction your last post but at least you didn't call for the hero seanie to return and a long list of other failed County footballers with no ulster medal.
What are you on about? That makes no sense whatsoever? Vulture? Memory Blackout? Seanie? Think you are mistaking me for someone else.

Total overaction last post? We still have to play Wicklow to stay in Div3. Am I missing something, have they forfeited the game or what?
If we don't concede goals we should have enough to win. If they nick a few I don't know what will happen. Nor you. The prospect of relegation will be water off a ducks back to these Wicklow boys. If our lads on the other hand get dragged into a dogfight they are not mentally prepared for, who knows. We haven't exactly being coming out of the traps like a greyhound.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dreadnought on May 31, 2021, 11:10:21 AM
Think there's a few losing the run of themselves here. Is it disappointing to stay (at a minimum) in Division 3, yes of course it is. But this was a really silly setup of a league, where our 2 main opponents in Div 3 North got a huge head start by being allowed to train and play challenges over 4 weeks earlier than us by simply being in the North. And saying all that, we lost 2 very tight games while playing poorly, still finding our game, and still getting up to speed. If things were even, or at least if each Division split was evenly (North was far stronger than South) we'd be in a far better place. But it's not, that's the hand we were dealt and we actually didn't do too bad considering we were a month behind our main opponents. Fermanagh got all the luck. Caught us cold at home first day out when we only had 4 weeks work done, got hockeyed, then got Longford at home too and yet they barely fell over the line in what was meant to be their fortress against the supposedly weakest team in the group. That's their huge luck there.

And we clearly also suffered with injuries. Graham also used the opportunity to try out young fellas and different positions that will be to our benefit longer term. Of course I hoped all the above could have been done and we'd still be playing in a semi for promotion in a few weeks, but we're not. As much of that could be put down to the format of this league which clearly was a joke. Move on, aim for Championship, and get out of Division 3 next year when it will be a properly set out league where you will clearly get the best teams over 7 games. For all that we saw of Derry and Fermanagh, both went hell for leather early, and not sure either will have the slightest impact on the Ulster championship. Not saying we will either, but we're clearly aiming to peak for then, not for now like they did.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Look-Up! on May 31, 2021, 12:10:39 PM
Quote from: Dreadnought on May 31, 2021, 11:10:21 AM
Think there's a few losing the run of themselves here. Is it disappointing to stay (at a minimum) in Division 3, yes of course it is. But this was a really silly setup of a league, where our 2 main opponents in Div 3 North got a huge head start by being allowed to train and play challenges over 4 weeks earlier than us by simply being in the North. And saying all that, we lost 2 very tight games while playing poorly, still finding our game, and still getting up to speed. If things were even, or at least if each Division split was evenly (North was far stronger than South) we'd be in a far better place. But it's not, that's the hand we were dealt and we actually didn't do too bad considering we were a month behind our main opponents. Fermanagh got all the luck. Caught us cold at home first day out when we only had 4 weeks work done, got hockeyed, then got Longford at home too and yet they barely fell over the line in what was meant to be their fortress against the supposedly weakest team in the group. That's their huge luck there.

And we clearly also suffered with injuries. Graham also used the opportunity to try out young fellas and different positions that will be to our benefit longer term. Of course I hoped all the above could have been done and we'd still be playing in a semi for promotion in a few weeks, but we're not. As much of that could be put down to the format of this league which clearly was a joke. Move on, aim for Championship, and get out of Division 3 next year when it will be a properly set out league where you will clearly get the best teams over 7 games. For all that we saw of Derry and Fermanagh, both went hell for leather early, and not sure either will have the slightest impact on the Ulster championship. Not saying we will either, but we're clearly aiming to peak for then, not for now like they did.
I give up at this stage. No offence Dreadnought but yet more conjecture from you. I don't see anyone losing the run of themselves but I see a lot of heads in the sand and flimsy excuses. I prefer to trust what my eyes have seen if it's all the same to you.

So the Derry game wasn't in fact the one we were aiming for and where the real Cavan would stand up like you predicted, it was Tyrone after all. Can't wait but I wish people would stop taking Wicklow for granted. Personally I'd settle if we peak for that game.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dreadnought on May 31, 2021, 12:15:16 PM
Quote from: Look-Up! on May 31, 2021, 12:10:39 PM
Quote from: Dreadnought on May 31, 2021, 11:10:21 AM
Think there's a few losing the run of themselves here. Is it disappointing to stay (at a minimum) in Division 3, yes of course it is. But this was a really silly setup of a league, where our 2 main opponents in Div 3 North got a huge head start by being allowed to train and play challenges over 4 weeks earlier than us by simply being in the North. And saying all that, we lost 2 very tight games while playing poorly, still finding our game, and still getting up to speed. If things were even, or at least if each Division split was evenly (North was far stronger than South) we'd be in a far better place. But it's not, that's the hand we were dealt and we actually didn't do too bad considering we were a month behind our main opponents. Fermanagh got all the luck. Caught us cold at home first day out when we only had 4 weeks work done, got hockeyed, then got Longford at home too and yet they barely fell over the line in what was meant to be their fortress against the supposedly weakest team in the group. That's their huge luck there.

And we clearly also suffered with injuries. Graham also used the opportunity to try out young fellas and different positions that will be to our benefit longer term. Of course I hoped all the above could have been done and we'd still be playing in a semi for promotion in a few weeks, but we're not. As much of that could be put down to the format of this league which clearly was a joke. Move on, aim for Championship, and get out of Division 3 next year when it will be a properly set out league where you will clearly get the best teams over 7 games. For all that we saw of Derry and Fermanagh, both went hell for leather early, and not sure either will have the slightest impact on the Ulster championship. Not saying we will either, but we're clearly aiming to peak for then, not for now like they did.
I give up at this stage. No offence Dreadnought but yet more conjecture from you. I don't see anyone losing the run of themselves but I see a lot of heads in the sand and flimsy excuses. I prefer to trust what my eyes have seen if it's all the same to you.

So the Derry game wasn't in fact the one we were aiming for and where the real Cavan would stand up like you predicted, it was Tyrone after all. Can't wait but I wish people would stop taking Wicklow for granted. Personally I'd settle if we peak for that game.
No head in the sand here. I said I'm disappointed, but if you look realistically at even half of the reasons on a lopsided North group then you'd see it's been odd. And we were not far away in those games either. And I'll reserve judgement until championship, that is the be all. Leagues are for playing, championships are for winning. Which is what Graham has already shown with his record so far in both. We do need to get better, clearly, but I'd rather if we aimed for the top in ulster, not last week.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Look-Up! on May 31, 2021, 12:43:29 PM
Quote from: Dreadnought on May 31, 2021, 12:15:16 PM
Quote from: Look-Up! on May 31, 2021, 12:10:39 PM
Quote from: Dreadnought on May 31, 2021, 11:10:21 AM
Think there's a few losing the run of themselves here. Is it disappointing to stay (at a minimum) in Division 3, yes of course it is. But this was a really silly setup of a league, where our 2 main opponents in Div 3 North got a huge head start by being allowed to train and play challenges over 4 weeks earlier than us by simply being in the North. And saying all that, we lost 2 very tight games while playing poorly, still finding our game, and still getting up to speed. If things were even, or at least if each Division split was evenly (North was far stronger than South) we'd be in a far better place. But it's not, that's the hand we were dealt and we actually didn't do too bad considering we were a month behind our main opponents. Fermanagh got all the luck. Caught us cold at home first day out when we only had 4 weeks work done, got hockeyed, then got Longford at home too and yet they barely fell over the line in what was meant to be their fortress against the supposedly weakest team in the group. That's their huge luck there.

And we clearly also suffered with injuries. Graham also used the opportunity to try out young fellas and different positions that will be to our benefit longer term. Of course I hoped all the above could have been done and we'd still be playing in a semi for promotion in a few weeks, but we're not. As much of that could be put down to the format of this league which clearly was a joke. Move on, aim for Championship, and get out of Division 3 next year when it will be a properly set out league where you will clearly get the best teams over 7 games. For all that we saw of Derry and Fermanagh, both went hell for leather early, and not sure either will have the slightest impact on the Ulster championship. Not saying we will either, but we're clearly aiming to peak for then, not for now like they did.
I give up at this stage. No offence Dreadnought but yet more conjecture from you. I don't see anyone losing the run of themselves but I see a lot of heads in the sand and flimsy excuses. I prefer to trust what my eyes have seen if it's all the same to you.

So the Derry game wasn't in fact the one we were aiming for and where the real Cavan would stand up like you predicted, it was Tyrone after all. Can't wait but I wish people would stop taking Wicklow for granted. Personally I'd settle if we peak for that game.
No head in the sand here. I said I'm disappointed, but if you look realistically at even half of the reasons on a lopsided North group then you'd see it's been odd. And we were not far away in those games either. And I'll reserve judgement until championship, that is the be all. Leagues are for playing, championships are for winning. Which is what Graham has already shown with his record so far in both. We do need to get better, clearly, but I'd rather if we aimed for the top in ulster, not last week.
I hope you're right Dreadnought but I completely disagree with your sentiments  :). Leagues are for building and expanding and gaining confidence, no serious championship outfit should be struggling where we are. Nor have I seen a trend in other groups where Northern teams gained any advantage from odd year.
As for Fermanagh, they are a young inexperienced side but even at their peak always struggled against us. We had a full month to prepare for them and were all out to beat them. All in house games were setup with them in mind. Starting team was already made up weeks in advance of match with little chance given to anyone else to impress. Second team had to setup like Fermanagh with everyone behind the ball and no chance for 2nd players to play their own game or show something different that might add to team or enhance their chance of selection. These are the facts, put whatever spin on it you like.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on June 01, 2021, 09:00:23 PM
If the other group was so weak,Tipperary would have got through to the Semis. Tipperary needed extra time last year to beat Limerick in Munster. Offaly are improving under Maughan and I think they'll beat Fermanagh in Tullamore. Niall McNamee still a class act off the bench.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dreadnought on June 02, 2021, 02:36:41 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on June 01, 2021, 09:00:23 PM
If the other group was so weak,Tipperary would have got through to the Semis. Tipperary needed extra time last year to beat Limerick in Munster. Offaly are improving under Maughan and I think they'll beat Fermanagh in Tullamore. Niall McNamee still a class act off the bench.
Yeah I get you, but it clearly was completely unbalanced. The North had the 2 teams that came down from Division 2, along with the 3rd and 4th team from 2020 in the group. South had the 2 promoted teams from Division 4 and the teams who finished 5th and 6th in Division 3 last year. By any measure of weighting on prior league position, it was completely lopsided. Not saying they were weak by any means, but that was a shabby way to divide up a Division
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on June 02, 2021, 02:58:19 PM
It was unfortunate, but was the hand Cavan were dealt with.
The Fermanagh game was  poor quality. They deserved the win, but it was good exhibition of free taking from Sean Quigley. 
Cavan losing James Smith before half time  was a turning point, as it looked like Cavan were getting in control

They should have been more ready for Derrys  fast start ,from watching them in the previous 2 games.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dreadnought on June 02, 2021, 03:48:02 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on June 02, 2021, 02:58:19 PM
It was unfortunate, but was the hand Cavan were dealt with.
The Fermanagh game was  poor quality. They deserved the win, but it was good exhibition of free taking from Sean Quigley. 
Cavan losing James Smith before half time  was a turning point, as it looked like Cavan were getting in control

They should have been more ready for Derrys  fast start ,from watching them in the previous 2 games.
Yeah I agree there. The Fermanagh game had the hallmarks of an ambush. They were ahead of us on training and matches being in the North. They showed from the loss to Derry and scraping a draw with Longford that they're not great. All went right for them on the day, and not for us, and the likes of Quigley with the frees got them the win. Fair play to them
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Look-Up! on June 02, 2021, 04:47:26 PM
Could have done with the extra two games as well, especially a rematch with a team like Derry. Good preparation for Tyrone. Wicklow it is though, not ideal but we can't afford to take our eyes off this one.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on June 12, 2021, 03:57:29 PM
As crazy as this sounds, Mickey Grahams head could be on the chopping block in a months time as I have no doubt now Tyrone will hammer us. What happened today is simply inexcusable. I saw a bnch of lads prancing around the pitch for 30 minutes at the start like lads that thought they were too good to be on the same pitch as Wicklow and then the next 30 mins a bunch of brainless clowns with no idea how to break down an extremely averagely set up blanket defense. Slow, sluggish and brainless is how I would describe that display.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Wildweasel74 on June 12, 2021, 06:35:35 PM
Tyrone no great shakes the day
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Look-Up! on June 12, 2021, 07:45:19 PM
Very disappointing result today but not unexpected TBH. There's no more excuses to hide behind either, if anything we were in the weaker section of the Division.

Where to from here? Simple answer, Tyrone need to be played in 4 weeks time so there's no time to wallow in self pity. This is one hell of a kick up the arse for everyone involved so once the dust settles there should be no problem getting lads up for Championship. They've come back down to Earth with an almighty wallop, so you would imagine pride dictates that we should get a huge performance from the team that takes the field in Omagh. Tyrone have more quality though and got a spanking of their own today.

My big worry though is that there'll be drop outs. There's clearly favourites when it comes to selection and some lads have gotten a very raw deal. Others are un-droppable no matter how poorly they perform. Something not right behind the scenes but hopefully the panel holds up for the summer. I think relegation today would have been easier to take if we had tried to develop more players from last year and experimented with a more attack orientated team. Been an absolute disaster from that point of view. Anyway, we'll see where we go from here.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on June 13, 2021, 11:26:43 AM
Who has gotten a raw deal?

Its difficult to see the reasoning behind some of the selections for the panel. Difficult to see how Conor Brady continually gets his place. Thought Timoney's application was awful yesterday, strolling around the place and fouling rather than putting in the hard yards to defend. I was impressed with Thomas Galligan in his first start of the year.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Look-Up! on June 13, 2021, 12:50:30 PM
If you follow this team or watch the games it's pretty obvious. There's lads who contributed in the league last year and winning Ulster haven't got a look in at all this year. There's lads who contributed little/nothing seem un-droppable. The starting team was basically settled on months ago and training was setup in such a way that if you weren't in this golden circle it was pretty much impossible to break in. We've seen the worst league performances in the history of Cavan football and there's no one on the panel to stop the team picking itself every week???? ??? ??? From what I hear they changed it up a little bit last couple of weeks and a few lads with experience from last year put in huge performances in inhouse and challenge games - they didn't make the match day 26  :D :D :D :D.

At any rate the team is setup terribly if you're an inside forward. Expected to cover from your full forward line all the way back to your own 45. If your man gets forward you're only a b****x. If you don't win your own ball inside because you're either knackered/double marked/ball in is shite, you're only a b****x. If you don't score you're only a b****x. Half back/forward/midfield line is the place to be. Waltz up and down the field, put in half hearted tackles. When going forward you get to run on to easy ball at pace and can carry uncontested up to 45. From there kick it back down the field or put in a shite ball to the inside man. Don't worry, he'll get the blame for not winning it. Every now and then you'll get a shot away at goal from 40 yards and your name on the score sheet. That's your selection guaranteed for next week. 

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on June 13, 2021, 02:00:21 PM
Quote from: Look-Up! on June 13, 2021, 12:50:30 PM
If you follow this team or watch the games it's pretty obvious. There's lads who contributed in the league last year and winning Ulster haven't got a look in at all this year. There's lads who contributed little/nothing seem un-droppable. The starting team was basically settled on months ago and training was setup in such a way that if you weren't in this golden circle it was pretty much impossible to break in. We've seen the worst league performances in the history of Cavan football and there's no one on the panel to stop the team picking itself every week???? ??? ??? From what I hear they changed it up a little bit last couple of weeks and a few lads with experience from last year put in huge performances in inhouse and challenge games - they didn't make the match day 26  :D :D :D :D.

At any rate the team is setup terribly if you're an inside forward. Expected to cover from your full forward line all the way back to your own 45. If your man gets forward you're only a b****x. If you don't win your own ball inside because you're either knackered/double marked/ball in is shite, you're only a b****x. If you don't score you're only a b****x. Half back/forward/midfield line is the place to be. Waltz up and down the field, put in half hearted tackles. When going forward you get to run on to easy ball at pace and can carry uncontested up to 45. From there kick it back down the field or put in a shite ball to the inside man. Don't worry, he'll get the blame for not winning it. Every now and then you'll get a shot away at goal from 40 yards and your name on the score sheet. That's your selection guaranteed for next week.

I'm not disagreeing with you, it was a genuine question. I couldn't pick anyone that I thought had got a raw deal to be honest because I don't think anybody got a run, took their opportunity and then got dropped. Cian Reilly got his chance, played well and kept his spot. Now as I've said there are lads who are getting their place and not putting in performances to keep it so I suppose that means someone else is getting a raw deal.

Agree with you on the full forward line. To me it looked like Mickey thought yesterday that our full forward line should be able to run up a score against Wicklow. They were outnumbered and swallowed up and we didn't change tactics we just replaced the corner forward twice. Was there any plan for getting Caoimhin Reilly or Caoimhin McGovern on the ball in the scoring area? Didn't seem like it. Just expect them to plough their own furrow and if that doesn't work, replace him and hope for the same from the next lad.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on June 13, 2021, 02:23:10 PM
It seems extremely unlikely we can plot a course from where we are today to somehow beating Tyrone in Omagh. I've defended Mickey against a lot of what I consider unfair criticism but there is no defending yesterday. The management team should done whatever it took to win that game.  They have as a result confined us most likely to the B Championship in 2022. I was in breffni a few years ago watching us best Roscommon, draw with Kerry. I saw us best Mayo in Castlebar. Now we will be playing Waterford and London. It's just a major major f**k up, no other way to put it. It reflects very very poorly on management and players.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Look-Up! on June 13, 2021, 04:29:24 PM
Looking at it rationally Wicklow need to be given their fair due. I was genuinely worried they would beat us after seeing our performances this year and it embarrasses me to read some of the shite Cavan "football fans" are saying and running down Wicklow. The opponent doesn't make the players any worse than they were last week. They're still as good as they were last November, injuries acknowledged. But it was a winnable game, that's what worries me.

We've been conceding 14/15 scores per game, our goalkeeper saved our ass a few times on run throughs, of which we've seen many. We don't score goals. For a team that gives up so many goal chances our scoring averages are poor, again 14/15 per game. Wicklow would be in the weaker section for county teams so you'd expect our average to be 16/17 at least and maybe concession 12/13. Simply put, we don't concede goals we beat Wicklow. How such a simple concept seems to have been completely lost on management or they couldn't come up with a game plan is staggering. They cut through us like butter. Lads are too comfortable letting players walk by them and still getting the nod the week after. We're at the stage now we can neither attack or defend.

I've been critical of this management at times, I don't think unfairly. I've been very complimentary too. I try to be reasonable but for me there are red lines you cannot cross as a manager and for me they've done it quite a few times. I don't know what the future holds for them but I'm not confident they are competent enough to build and develop a team. I think the team will be up for the Tyrone match but not sure where that leaves the management long term. 
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on June 21, 2021, 02:56:33 PM
i hear Moynagh is back in Cavan, anyone know was he called into the panel?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on June 21, 2021, 03:02:57 PM
He was with the panel for the Wicklow game.  His fitness would need to be at a good level to feature against Tyrone
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mrdeeds on June 24, 2021, 07:51:30 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on June 21, 2021, 03:02:57 PM
He was with the panel for the Wicklow game.  His fitness would need to be at a good level to feature against Tyrone

And not allowed play club.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on July 07, 2021, 05:36:22 PM
Listening to the WeAreCavan lads it sounds like Mickey will be having priority for some U20 players. Damien said he expects Cian Reilly to start on Saturday so presumably he won't be available for the U20s on Friday. You'd imagine Caoimhin McGovern will be the same.

Would be great to see us beating Down, our record at U20 level has been pretty shocking since the end of the run in 2014.

Not looking forward to Saturday at all. There could be a hiding on the cards.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on July 09, 2021, 10:15:27 PM
Desperate result tonight. Didn't see it but surely to god we have to be better than that scoreline in Breffni?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on July 09, 2021, 10:21:46 PM
So far behind Down. As soon as the teams took to the field you could see we were outdone physically and athletically. The pace they played the game at, their decision making and execution of the basic skills were streets ahead of us. What's worrying is that we can no longer say that due attention wasn't given to the group. They were committed and well prepared.

If tomorrow is another hammering, we're at a low as bad as we've seen in a long time.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Duckquay on July 09, 2021, 11:09:25 PM
Didn't see any of the game tonight but that's worrying if we were miles behind physically given all the resources that have been put into this aspect of the game in recent years.
As for tomorrow, we're no hopers if there is any truth in some of the rumours going around. 
Tyrone are vulnerable though, a fair scattering of very average players throughout.
We should be forcing Morgan to go long every time. Their full back line is very suspect, don't think we have the tools to exploit that however.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on July 10, 2021, 10:25:38 AM
We just had smaller players. A good big man will always beat a good small man. McEvoy showed some good moments, has pace to burn. Thought Eoin McCaffery was good at corner forward. Very elusive and ran at Down every time he got the ball. But we were wiped out at midfield. Caoimhin McGovern made no impact at all.

What's the rumours? Challenge results or injuries or problems with the camp?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: RedHand88 on July 10, 2021, 10:35:31 AM
Very little expectation in Tyrone today. We're there for the taking. New management haven't had a chance to bed in yet.  I'd have Cavan as slight favourites.

It's there for the taking for ye's!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on July 10, 2021, 10:41:12 AM
Maybe so if it was a Cavan team playing with some confidence. A disastrous defeat to Wicklow with reports that the management wanted to step down afterwards but persuade to stay on.

Tyrone are not great at midfield, maybe one area Cavan might have advantage.  If McShane is not starting,they lack a presence inside.  Rumours that McKenna is out?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on July 10, 2021, 12:00:06 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on July 10, 2021, 10:41:12 AM
Maybe so if it was a Cavan team playing with some confidence. A disastrous defeat to Wicklow with reports that the management wanted to step down afterwards but persuade to stay on.

Tyrone are not great at midfield, maybe one area Cavan might have advantage.  If McShane is not starting,they lack a presence inside.  Rumours that McKenna is out?

I didnt hear anything like that but did hear we beat Mayo in a challenge game so can't be all bad. I dont believe for a second management were going to step down after Wicklow, makes no sense when your manager is all about championship. Unfortunately in Cavan there are some people who are like auld women making up shite to have something to talk about.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on July 10, 2021, 12:04:08 PM
I don't think they were making up shite, there was words said after Wicklow. Anyway they can put it behinds them with a good display today
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on July 10, 2021, 12:11:49 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on July 10, 2021, 12:04:08 PM
I don't think they were making up shite, there was words said after Wicklow. Anyway they can put it behinds them with a good display today

I am sure there were words, I would expect that - I am sure there was serious words. But I am saying that I seriously doubt management were looking to quit and were convinced to stay on if that is the rumour. Not a rumour I heard myself in any case.

Got a ticket to the game anyway, anyone else here making the trip?
Anyone know what is wrong with James Smith, I know he had that dreadful fall against Derry but I heard it was concussion??
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mrdeeds on July 10, 2021, 03:23:45 PM
Quote from: Itchy on July 10, 2021, 12:11:49 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on July 10, 2021, 12:04:08 PM
I don't think they were making up shite, there was words said after Wicklow. Anyway they can put it behinds them with a good display today

I am sure there were words, I would expect that - I am sure there was serious words. But I am saying that I seriously doubt management were looking to quit and were convinced to stay on if that is the rumour. Not a rumour I heard myself in any case.

Got a ticket to the game anyway, anyone else here making the trip?
Anyone know what is wrong with James Smith, I know he had that dreadful fall against Derry but I heard it was concussion??

Yeah concussion and still affecting him.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on July 10, 2021, 04:20:34 PM
Quote from: Itchy on July 10, 2021, 12:11:49 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on July 10, 2021, 12:04:08 PM
I don't think they were making up shite, there was words said after Wicklow. Anyway they can put it behinds them with a good display today

I am sure there were words, I would expect that - I am sure there was serious words. But I am saying that I seriously doubt management were looking to quit and were convinced to stay on if that is the rumour. Not a rumour I heard myself in any case.

Got a ticket to the game anyway, anyone else here making the trip?
Anyone know what is wrong with James Smith, I know he had that dreadful fall against Derry but I heard it was concussion??

Because you didn't hear it doesn't mean it didn't happen. Mickey is back with Mullinalaghta as manager. I don't know if he plans to be with Cavan next year but maybe he'll get a rattle today
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on July 10, 2021, 06:27:18 PM
Poor stuff. A lot of passengers in that side. Difficult to identify what the attacking plan was. Players looked lethargic and devoid of any spirit or belief. There are serious questions over Mickey's tenure now.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on July 10, 2021, 08:18:43 PM
Some really poor passing and decision making. Oisin Kiernan is a good player but kicked 3 or 4 bad wides but he wasn't alone. Some basic handling was really poor. The first 20 minutes was good but Tyrone looked like they could go up a gear. McCurry was on fire inside and they couldn't handle him.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on July 10, 2021, 10:48:26 PM
Having been at the game there's something clearly amiss. One players individual errors cost us 5 scores yet he had to get injured before being subbed.

We have no idea what we are doing in the last 3rd when attacking. We have a gem in Thomas Galligan, sitting at FF and yet seem to have no idea how to get him involved. He might as well have been sitting in the stand.

Our fitness was way off. Barely a player was able to keep the intensity up for 70mins. Given moynagh can start having been abroad for 2 yrs, you'd really need to wonder what were we at training wise over lockdown.

Our forwards were piss poor and I'm not talking about our much spoken about lack of "marquee" forwards, I'm talking about fellas spilling simple marks, losing balls they are 80:20 to win cos their too yellow to go down on the ball. Serious lack of balls, not managers fault, few of them need to look in the mirror.

Tyrone have never been as poor but some shocking wasteful attacks allowed them sneak into a 4 ot lead when we were the better team for 90% of the 1st half, the timing of their goal killed us. Attacking their kick out was a big ploy for us but that failed miserably as Morgan almost always found a ball out.

Very disappointed with the showing but calling for managers head is stupid imo, unless we've a magical proven top level manager waiting to come in. What a drop from the highs of 2020.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on July 10, 2021, 10:58:56 PM
I agree the fitness looks very suspect but they have a full time S/C coach. Cavan are well enough backed compared to some other counties.

I think the highs of 2020 was one big performance against Donegal. who had their eye of the ball in anticapition of Dublin. The Down comeback from 10pts down was impressive, but that was as much as them throwing it away as a great comeback. The league results last year were really poor.  The last Cavan game I was a,t was the Clare game before lockdown last year and that was a shocking display,
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on July 10, 2021, 11:07:01 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on July 10, 2021, 10:58:56 PM
I agree the fitness looks very suspect but they have a full time S/C coach. Cavan are well enough backed compared to some other counties.

I think the highs of 2020 was one big performance against Donegal. who had their eye of the ball in anticapition of Dublin. The Down comeback from 10pts down was impressive, but that was as much as them throwing it away as a great comeback. The league results last year were really poor.  The last Cavan game I was a,t was the Clare game before lockdown last year and that was a shocking display,

I dont agree with this narrative that 2020 was a fluke or lucky etc. I think it's shameful  to hear our own supporters propagate that line. Last yrs ulster was one of the hardest ever won. Drawn in preliminary round, 4 champ games in 4 weeks (6 games in 6 wks if you count league), 2 div 1 teams bet along the way. That's serious going in my book and it will never be done again.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on July 10, 2021, 11:13:57 PM
I think you're being easily annoyed. It was a great win and was tough in a short period. They were tremendous comebacks but those type of comebacks don't alway happen. The performace against Antim didn't look like Ulster winning materal.

The Donegal performance was excellent and they raised their game big time but hard to stay at that standard.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on July 28, 2021, 10:28:05 PM
Bet now in minors in breffni by Fermanagh, humiliated by down Down in U20s. A recent history of results  in underage which would match the worst in the country. How have we fallen to this level. Whoever oversees this needs the boot.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on July 30, 2021, 03:04:37 PM
The WeAreCavan lads on the podcast saying they are getting a lot of people contacting them about the minor results and how it's good to see people are still passionate and are hurt by the loss. You wouldn't think there was much passion from Cavan people in Breffni Wednesday night. I'd estimate the small crowd was 75% Fermanagh. I cant see that happening in Clones or the Athletic grounds.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mrdeeds on July 30, 2021, 03:53:50 PM
Quote from: Westside on July 30, 2021, 03:04:37 PM
The WeAreCavan lads on the podcast saying they are getting a lot of people contacting them about the minor results and how it's good to see people are still passionate and are hurt by the loss. You wouldn't think there was much passion from Cavan people in Breffni Wednesday night. I'd estimate the small crowd was 75% Fermanagh. I cant see that happening in Clones or the Athletic grounds.

There was club fixtures organised for same time sure.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on July 30, 2021, 04:08:04 PM
Needs to a review at all levels. The Seniors are in Division 4, the performance against Wicklow was shocking.
U20s were hammered. Managed by someone who also presents a podcast. Minors have poor for a few years now
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on July 30, 2021, 06:47:04 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on July 30, 2021, 04:08:04 PM
Needs to a review at all levels. The Seniors are in Division 4, the performance against Wicklow was shocking.
U20s were hammered. Managed by someone who also presents a podcast. Minors have poor for a few years now

Why is the podcast relevant?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on July 30, 2021, 08:34:01 PM
Quote from: Westside on July 30, 2021, 06:47:04 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on July 30, 2021, 04:08:04 PM
Needs to a review at all levels. The Seniors are in Division 4, the performance against Wicklow was shocking.
U20s were hammered. Managed by someone who also presents a podcast. Minors have poor for a few years now

Why is the podcast relevant?

Why wouldn't it be?  i don't think discussing the under age teams and being manager of the U20 goes well, but that's my opinion
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Duckquay on July 31, 2021, 09:34:32 AM
Quote from: rodney trotter on July 30, 2021, 04:08:04 PM
Needs to a review at all levels. The Seniors are in Division 4, the performance against Wicklow was shocking.
U20s were hammered. Managed by someone who also presents a podcast. Minors have poor for a few years now

You're spot on Rodney. The writing was on the wall for the seniors from very early on this year, there are a lot of things to resolve there alone. All in all, there haven't been many worse years when the underage and senior performances and results are looked at in totality. You could blame covid and only one game etc but that's papering over the cracks.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on July 31, 2021, 10:00:26 AM
I'm more worried about underage and the one good thing about the podcast was they played the interview by Gary Farrelly which was embarrassing in the extreme, blaming everything from covid to weather to injuries for the loss. You'd think a decent manager would say he'd look at himself and his set up and broader the county set up. He'd just lost to Fermanagh in Breffni. At least the Seniors can point to recent success. Someone oversees the underage approach in cavan, they have failed miserably and should be held accountable and replaced.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mrdeeds on July 31, 2021, 12:23:06 PM
Quote from: Itchy on July 31, 2021, 10:00:26 AM
I'm more worried about underage and the one good thing about the podcast was they played the interview by Gary Farrelly which was embarrassing in the extreme, blaming everything from covid to weather to injuries for the loss. You'd think a decent manager would say he'd look at himself and his set up and broader the county set up. He'd just lost to Fermanagh in Breffni. At least the Seniors can point to recent success. Someone oversees the underage approach in cavan, they have failed miserably and should be held accountable and replaced.

I don't think that's fair. That man is fully committed to the job and not distracted by two other jobs.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on July 31, 2021, 01:19:35 PM
Quote from: mrdeeds on July 31, 2021, 12:23:06 PM
Quote from: Itchy on July 31, 2021, 10:00:26 AM
I'm more worried about underage and the one good thing about the podcast was they played the interview by Gary Farrelly which was embarrassing in the extreme, blaming everything from covid to weather to injuries for the loss. You'd think a decent manager would say he'd look at himself and his set up and broader the county set up. He'd just lost to Fermanagh in Breffni. At least the Seniors can point to recent success. Someone oversees the underage approach in cavan, they have failed miserably and should be held accountable and replaced.

I don't think that's fair. That man is fully committed to the job and not distracted by two other jobs.

Committed to the job and failed miserly. The county coaching officer (or whatever the correct title is) should also be moved on as he has also completely failed in his role. There should be very loud alarm bells going off in Cavan GAA HQ at the moment.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on July 31, 2021, 04:21:10 PM
One thing I can understand is the type of player we are choosing to go with. The minors were noticeably physically smaller than their Fermanagh counterparts. The U21s were completely outdone physically against Down. It's so strange when the hallmark of our successful teams and in particular the 2011 Minors (which was the bedrock of most of what we've achieved since) was the decision to go with lads that were bigger and most played midfield for their clubs. That's the way the game is gone, lads like TED and probably Lovett just aren't going to make it through to senior level.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Cavan19 on August 04, 2021, 10:13:23 AM
Quote from: Itchy on July 31, 2021, 01:19:35 PM
Quote from: mrdeeds on July 31, 2021, 12:23:06 PM
Quote from: Itchy on July 31, 2021, 10:00:26 AM
I'm more worried about underage and the one good thing about the podcast was they played the interview by Gary Farrelly which was embarrassing in the extreme, blaming everything from covid to weather to injuries for the loss. You'd think a decent manager would say he'd look at himself and his set up and broader the county set up. He'd just lost to Fermanagh in Breffni. At least the Seniors can point to recent success. Someone oversees the underage approach in cavan, they have failed miserably and should be held accountable and replaced.

I don't think that's fair. That man is fully committed to the job and not distracted by two other jobs.

Committed to the job and failed miserly. The county coaching officer (or whatever the correct title is) should also be moved on as he has also completely failed in his role. There should be very loud alarm bells going off in Cavan GAA HQ at the moment.

That's the next Senior Cavan manager that you are talking about whenever MG decides to move on/removed.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on August 04, 2021, 10:16:42 AM
Quote from: Cavan19 on August 04, 2021, 10:13:23 AM
Quote from: Itchy on July 31, 2021, 01:19:35 PM
Quote from: mrdeeds on July 31, 2021, 12:23:06 PM
Quote from: Itchy on July 31, 2021, 10:00:26 AM
I'm more worried about underage and the one good thing about the podcast was they played the interview by Gary Farrelly which was embarrassing in the extreme, blaming everything from covid to weather to injuries for the loss. You'd think a decent manager would say he'd look at himself and his set up and broader the county set up. He'd just lost to Fermanagh in Breffni. At least the Seniors can point to recent success. Someone oversees the underage approach in cavan, they have failed miserably and should be held accountable and replaced.

I don't think that's fair. That man is fully committed to the job and not distracted by two other jobs.

Committed to the job and failed miserly. The county coaching officer (or whatever the correct title is) should also be moved on as he has also completely failed in his role. There should be very loud alarm bells going off in Cavan GAA HQ at the moment.

That's the next Senior Cavan manager that you are talking about whenever MG decides to move on/removed.

Sad but probably true, although I am not sure how he could talk through his CV in a positive way.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mrdeeds on August 04, 2021, 11:14:35 AM
Quote from: Itchy on August 04, 2021, 10:16:42 AM
Quote from: Cavan19 on August 04, 2021, 10:13:23 AM
Quote from: Itchy on July 31, 2021, 01:19:35 PM
Quote from: mrdeeds on July 31, 2021, 12:23:06 PM
Quote from: Itchy on July 31, 2021, 10:00:26 AM
I'm more worried about underage and the one good thing about the podcast was they played the interview by Gary Farrelly which was embarrassing in the extreme, blaming everything from covid to weather to injuries for the loss. You'd think a decent manager would say he'd look at himself and his set up and broader the county set up. He'd just lost to Fermanagh in Breffni. At least the Seniors can point to recent success. Someone oversees the underage approach in cavan, they have failed miserably and should be held accountable and replaced.

I don't think that's fair. That man is fully committed to the job and not distracted by two other jobs.

Committed to the job and failed miserly. The county coaching officer (or whatever the correct title is) should also be moved on as he has also completely failed in his role. There should be very loud alarm bells going off in Cavan GAA HQ at the moment.

That's the next Senior Cavan manager that you are talking about whenever MG decides to move on/removed.

Sad but probably true, although I am not sure how he could talk through his CV in a positive way.

I was been sarcastic about fully committed. Sure he has three GAA jobs alone.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on August 04, 2021, 12:41:12 PM
Quote from: mrdeeds on August 04, 2021, 11:14:35 AM
Quote from: Itchy on August 04, 2021, 10:16:42 AM
Quote from: Cavan19 on August 04, 2021, 10:13:23 AM
Quote from: Itchy on July 31, 2021, 01:19:35 PM
Quote from: mrdeeds on July 31, 2021, 12:23:06 PM
Quote from: Itchy on July 31, 2021, 10:00:26 AM
I'm more worried about underage and the one good thing about the podcast was they played the interview by Gary Farrelly which was embarrassing in the extreme, blaming everything from covid to weather to injuries for the loss. You'd think a decent manager would say he'd look at himself and his set up and broader the county set up. He'd just lost to Fermanagh in Breffni. At least the Seniors can point to recent success. Someone oversees the underage approach in cavan, they have failed miserably and should be held accountable and replaced.

I don't think that's fair. That man is fully committed to the job and not distracted by two other jobs.

Committed to the job and failed miserly. The county coaching officer (or whatever the correct title is) should also be moved on as he has also completely failed in his role. There should be very loud alarm bells going off in Cavan GAA HQ at the moment.

That's the next Senior Cavan manager that you are talking about whenever MG decides to move on/removed.

Sad but probably true, although I am not sure how he could talk through his CV in a positive way.

I was been sarcastic about fully committed. Sure he has three GAA jobs alone.

Ah sorry, i see now what you were saying.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on August 09, 2021, 01:43:59 PM
Fermanagh Minors beat Cavan Minors in comfortable enough fashion and go on to lose by 30 points to Tyrone. That really is rock bottom, hopefully this will prompt change.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Cavan19 on August 09, 2021, 02:39:58 PM
Quote from: Westside on August 09, 2021, 01:43:59 PM
Fermanagh Minors beat Cavan Minors in comfortable enough fashion and go on to lose by 30 points to Tyrone. That really is rock bottom, hopefully this will prompt change.

It has been a year to forget and i don't have much faith in the County Board to make the required changes whatever they might be.

Minors losing to Fermanagh
U-20 beat out the gate
Seniors relegated to Division 4 and limping out of the championship

3 Successive relegation's
County Senior Management involved with Club teams
Player home from Australia a wet week starting USFC game

Anyone any ideas how we can improve our county teams or do we not have the players?



Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on August 09, 2021, 10:26:35 PM
I see coaching officers taking the WeAreCavan lads to task on Twitter about claiming we don't do U14 or U15 Development Squads when we do in fact. I think they'd be better advised keep their heads down because development looks non-existent at this point.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on August 10, 2021, 08:15:04 AM
Quote from: Westside on August 09, 2021, 10:26:35 PM
I see coaching officers taking the WeAreCavan lads to task on Twitter about claiming we don't do U14 or U15 Development Squads when we do in fact. I think they'd be better advised keep their heads down because development looks non-existent at this point.

I was awful tempted to ask them do they not have something more important to be worrying about, rather than tweeting to wearecavan. Maybe they should go on the podcast and tell them where its going wrong and what they are doing to fix it?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Cavan19 on August 10, 2021, 09:34:17 AM
Quote from: Itchy on August 10, 2021, 08:15:04 AM
Quote from: Westside on August 09, 2021, 10:26:35 PM
I see coaching officers taking the WeAreCavan lads to task on Twitter about claiming we don't do U14 or U15 Development Squads when we do in fact. I think they'd be better advised keep their heads down because development looks non-existent at this point.

I was awful tempted to ask them do they not have something more important to be worrying about, rather than tweeting to wearecavan. Maybe they should go on the podcast and tell them where its going wrong and what they are doing to fix it?

Could be time to refresh the coaching staff in there.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on August 10, 2021, 10:26:12 AM
Quote from: Cavan19 on August 10, 2021, 09:34:17 AM
Quote from: Itchy on August 10, 2021, 08:15:04 AM
Quote from: Westside on August 09, 2021, 10:26:35 PM
I see coaching officers taking the WeAreCavan lads to task on Twitter about claiming we don't do U14 or U15 Development Squads when we do in fact. I think they'd be better advised keep their heads down because development looks non-existent at this point.

I was awful tempted to ask them do they not have something more important to be worrying about, rather than tweeting to wearecavan. Maybe they should go on the podcast and tell them where its going wrong and what they are doing to fix it?

Could be time to refresh the coaching staff in there.

Says a lot about that guy when that's what he chose to tweet about and in fairness to Paul Fitz he called it out that they were bringing flack upon themselves by asking questions. I would say these boys didn't like the idea of accountability, but when you get paid to do a job you should be accountable for the results.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Cavan19 on August 20, 2021, 03:15:02 PM
Has there been any write up in the Celt about  the disastrous year for all our senior mens teams?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Look-Up! on August 20, 2021, 04:18:43 PM
I'd say a lot of apathy has set in for football fans regarding county. More interest in club competitions for now although probably hard to get a discussion going on that as difficult to see too many games especially involving different clubs other than your own.

Time will tell what the interest will be committing to county for next year once the club competitions are over. Beggars belief this management are still in charge, especially their cavalier attitude and two fingered approach to Cavan football since relegation and championship exit. Accountability or remedy doesn't even come into it, more interested in their extracurricular football activities. Cavan football team only a nuisance to them, apart from the money of course. That comes in handy.   
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on August 20, 2021, 08:36:27 PM
Quote from: Look-Up! on August 20, 2021, 04:18:43 PM
I'd say a lot of apathy has set in for football fans regarding county. More interest in club competitions for now although probably hard to get a discussion going on that as difficult to see too many games especially involving different clubs other than your own.

Time will tell what the interest will be committing to county for next year once the club competitions are over. Beggars belief this management are still in charge, especially their cavalier attitude and two fingered approach to Cavan football since relegation and championship exit. Accountability or remedy doesn't even come into it, more interested in their extracurricular football activities. Cavan football team only a nuisance to them, apart from the money of course. That comes in handy.   

What have they done since the championship exit? Or what have they done that they shouldn't?

They have questions to answer for sure, but saying it beggars belief that they haven't been sacked is a bit much. Ulster Final and Ulster title in the first 2 years for a county like Cavan... They were always gonna get another year at the very least.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mrdeeds on August 20, 2021, 09:05:56 PM
They got a third year.

I think the two fingers refers to the fact that two of the management have club jobs.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Look-Up! on August 20, 2021, 10:37:36 PM
Correct mrdeeds, looks very bad that after a relegation to Division 4 our manager was more interested in lining up a club job than preparing for Ulster Championship. But nothing less than total player commitment acceptable et cetera et cetera, well some players more than others. However good the team performance was in last years final, and I'm struggling to remember a better Cavan team performance, everything else has been average at best. Some of it as bad as anything I've seen.

Good win for Gowna this evening in a bit of a washout in Breffni. Very very slippery conditions. Crosserlough took control early and looked good at half time. Couple of Gowna HT subs had a big impact, quick goal immediately after restart undone a lot of the early Crosserlough hard yards and game became a bit of a lottery after that. Crosserlough looked like they might do it but some clinical Gowna play and maybe a bit of Xlough indiscipline in the last 10 minutes gave it to the lake men. Didn't look like ever getting caught in the end as their opponents ran out of ideas. Kilnaleck men not happy with ref, thought he was poor myself. Great to see James Smith back after his injury for last 10 minutes or so, going on this evening they'll need him and Mart Stuart back to their best if they are going to have an impact for Championship.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on August 21, 2021, 12:23:31 PM
I don't like the optics of county management taking on club management too. But being "more interested in lining up a club job" is hyperbole. Mickey went back to a club job he had before, McCabe went to his own club. Lets not pretend they were out touting for a role and ignoring their Cavan duties.

The performances under Mickey have been mostly poor and he's still in a job because he managed to get the team to put in a few exceptional halves of football and one top level performance at the right time. He spent a lot of the goodwill last year though and he now needs to get promotion from Division 4 and a respectable championship to keep his job. I think getting rid of him now would have been harsh and would have blotted our copybook when we go looking for management in the future.

Gowna really pulled it out of the bag last night. I'd still fancy Crosserlough to beat them most times they play, they just look like a stronger unit. Should really have closed it out last night after Smith's second point after the water break.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Look-Up! on August 21, 2021, 12:58:49 PM
He had the job lined up in the weeks before the Tyrone game, that is not hyperbole. Some statement of intent for the reigning Ulster champions.

I have zero confidence in this management team and that is from purely watching them for 3 years. Whatever steps forward they make they immediately take two back from pure block headedness so it's a write off for me. Anyone who thinks they are remotely competent or capable of building a squad have rocks in their head. I would not be confident of them getting us out of Division 4. They will of course win a few games but as for building some consistency or game plan, I don't think so.
It's a poor thing to have to say but there is no way I would put any money on us getting promotion. Reason being we are too predictable, Plan A all the way and if that doesn't go well lump in a few high balls. Rely on 15 odd scores or so and hope our GK pulls off some good saves. Doesn't matter the opposition, every team in the country will always be in it and have a chance against us. So it will not be so straightforward getting promotion. Would love it to be different but that's where we're at and only prolonging the inevitable.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Look-Up! on August 29, 2021, 08:55:30 PM
Good win for Laragh today in the Division 2 final. Well balanced team and some nice forwards on display with some great score taking. Looked setup for a rip roaring affair early on but after the 1st water break Mullahoran fell away badly. They hung in gamely with some tenacious defending throughout but really struggled to get into the Laragh half especially second half. Dam eventually gave way and Laragh ran out comfortable enough.
It was a tough day at the office for a lot of the younger dreadnought players. Looks like they are in for a period of struggle especially around the midfield half-forward areas.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Look-Up! on September 03, 2021, 02:05:31 PM
Good game in Breffni last night. Ramor are a tight outfit and will be hard beat. Xlough have a tough game next so are up against it. Plenty of positives for them but the goal was crucial and gave away too much cheap ball when the game was in the melting pot. Not clinical enough up front at times but if they can tweak things should be well in the shake up. Ramor have some nice forwards, McEvoy and Cole are handful. James Brady was a bit off on his kicking but that can only improve.
Great conditions for football and pitch looked immaculate, hopefully we'll see bigger crowds soon. AI ref in charge, done ok.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on September 03, 2021, 02:30:06 PM
Assume the rumour of McVittys returned turned out to be bull.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Cavan19 on September 03, 2021, 03:01:06 PM
Quote from: Itchy on September 03, 2021, 02:30:06 PM
Assume the rumour of McVittys returned turned out to be bull.

That's a pity he could have helped us stay out of Division 5.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Look-Up! on September 03, 2021, 04:06:33 PM
Quote from: Cavan19 on September 03, 2021, 03:01:06 PM
Quote from: Itchy on September 03, 2021, 02:30:06 PM
Assume the rumour of McVittys returned turned out to be bull.

That's a pity he could have helped us stay out of Division 5.
Think COVID changed his plans. He was only going to play club this year anyway
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Duckquay on September 03, 2021, 05:19:00 PM
Can't beat Championship week. The boots are in pristine condition  ;D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on September 03, 2021, 07:49:30 PM
I think we unfortunately have to forget about McVeety as a county player. A real shame but he gave us a lot of huge performances so best of luck to him.

On the plus side, there looks to be some promising talent coming. McEvoy looked excellent last night and really stood up when the game was in the melting pot. I also thought Brian O'Connell had a good game too, hopefully he returns next year.

Ramor will be hard to beat. Something not right with Crosserlough, finding it hard to close out games.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Look-Up! on September 04, 2021, 10:02:42 AM
Think Mark Stuart and Adrian Smith are huge losses for them, hopefully Stuart can get back to his best. They have plenty of niggly injuries but they can improve.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Look-Up! on September 11, 2021, 02:09:41 PM
Great win for Mullahoran in Breffni last night. Was a cracking game. Referee let an awful lot go but it actually made for real physical high intensity championship football. There'll be a few lads sore today though.
Cormac O'Reilly was impressive first half and brought something up front to them that was previously missing. Philip the Gunner was excellent and was some goal he scored. Not the fittest player on the field but has that bit of class, power and can change seamlessly on either side which makes him a real handful for any defender. Castlerahan kicked too many wides first half and let the dreadnoughts get that bit too far ahead. Looked to be reeling them in after the second water break but Mullahoran held firm. Have to say their defence were excellent, there's a very young lad on the wing- Cormac McKeogh I think, was impressed by him in what was tough going. Cian O'Reilly very impressive too. Killian the Gunner as tough as they come, gave and took some blows. 
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Look-Up! on September 13, 2021, 12:45:27 PM
Crosserlough and Gaels ended a draw, error ridden game that lacked a spark and never really got to championship tempo. In the end neither team good enough to win it. Gaels would have been disappointed after first half shooting, really let a below par Lough off the hook with a multitude of bad wides. Incredibly The Spoils should have gone in at the break in front but for a missed penalty. Momentum swung for the Kilnaleck men 2nd half with the sending off of Fortune after a bit of a disagreement with his cousin on the opposing team, but some poor decision making, passing and wides kept the game tight. In the end both teams had chances for the winner but in truth neither team deserved all of the points.
Gowna with a big win v Lacken, 2 from 2 so far for the Longford border men, if they can get Pierson fit and not pick up injuries you wouldn't bet against them. Ramor and Ballinagh served out a draw in what I believe was a great game of football. Valuable point for Ballinagh against what are probably outright favourites. If anyone has any reports on these or any other games it would be good to hear their opinions.
So the bye teams are out next week and it will be interesting to see the draws after that. All in all very tight at the moment and a bad draw could see some of the bigger guns under a bit of pressure. Relegation playoffs will be interesting and again the draw will have a big bearing on who is in the final shakeup. Some of the perceived favourites for the drop before the championship started may well tear up the script if what we've seen so far is anything to go by.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on September 17, 2021, 09:48:27 AM
So Dermot McCabe gone as a selector with the senior team. Anyone have any insight on this?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Look-Up! on September 19, 2021, 01:47:38 PM
Apparently he wasn't too pleased how certain things were handled in there lately so walked away.

Anyone at the Ramor Shercock game? 5 points for Ramor now, should be more than enough to guarantee QF spot. They're looking to be ticking over nicely at the moment, not blowing anyone away but strong defensively and dangerous up front.

Was at Mullahoran Killygarry, scrappy enough affair in tough conditions. Plenty of mistakes, Killygarry missed enough to win two matches. Mullahoran were much more economical up front, in truth they lived off scraps for much of the match but managed to make more of their breaks. Killygarry black card for Mattie McKenna with about 10 minutes of normal time to go was huge for me. Mullahoran were hanging in at that stage and it was difficult to see where the scores would come from but it got them a foothold in midfield again and think it resulted in a 4 point swing before he retook the field. Got a red card pretty much straight away after coming back on. I thought overall Killygarry discipline was poor and some of their attempts at scores were woeful. Wouldn't fancy them against anyone going on what we saw last night. Mullahoran got a red card of their own couple of minutes before their red, Killian the Gunner picking up a second yellow for what looked like a fair shoulder to shoulder. Wasn't impressed with referee overall, lost the run of the game a few times and very inconsistent. Looked to be playing for a draw too but the execution of Killygarry's last free from about 30 yards out summed up their overall performance.
Mullahoran will be very happy with their return so far, 4 points will see you into the QFs a lot of years. Don't think anyone would be fearing them too much but to be taking lightly at your peril all the same.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Look-Up! on September 19, 2021, 02:13:25 PM
Team        Pld   W   L   D  PD  Pts
Ramor         3   2   0   1   6   5
Gowna        2   2   0   0   18   4
M/horan      2   2   0   0   3   4
K/court      2   2   0   0   2   4
C/Gaels      2   1   0   1   9   3
Laragh       2   1   0   1   9   3
Lavey        2   1   1   0   -6   2
C/lough      2   0   1   1   -1   1
Ballinagh    2   0   1   1   -9   1
Lacken       2   0   1   1   -17   1
Killygarry   3   0   3   0   -3   0
C/rahan     2   0   2   0   -5   0
Shercock    2   0   2   0   -6   0
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Look-Up! on September 19, 2021, 05:45:59 PM
Round 4 Draw:
Kingscourt v Lacken
Crosserlough v Gowna
Ballinagh v Laragh
Mullahoran v Ramor
Castlerahan v Cavan Gaels
Shercock v Lavey
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Look-Up! on September 19, 2021, 05:53:14 PM
Quote from: Look-Up! on September 19, 2021, 05:45:59 PM
Round 4 Draw:
Kingscourt v Lacken
Crosserlough v Gowna
Ballinagh v Laragh
Mullahoran v Ramor
Castlerahan v Cavan Gaels
Shercock v Lavey
Cat amongst the pigeons draw if ever there was one. Some humdingers promised.
Crosserlough v Gowna maybe pick of the bunch.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on September 25, 2021, 02:02:25 PM
Ryan McMenamin to replace Dermot McCabe in the Cavan backroom team.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Look-Up! on September 25, 2021, 02:33:54 PM
Bit of a damp squib in Breffni last night, Crosserlough never really got out of the traps at all in what was a do or die game for them, Gowna far superior looking team throughout. It's a far cry from The Lough's performances of last year where people were predicting a domination period on the club scene- on their recent performances if they don't get some fresh legs into that team they'll not trouble many.
With James Smith well marshalled, Gowna looked to have their opponents under serious pressure on their kick outs from the off. And it continued that way throughout. It was hard to see any area really where the boys in black and amber held their own apart from Patrick Lynch who I think kicked 2-09 of their 2-10 total. But with a beleaguered goalkeeper, a harassed defence and a completely non-existent half forward line, the final score line very much flattered the Kilnaleck outfit.
Gowna on 6 points with one more to play, you would fancy them to get a favourable enough tie in the QF. Was very impressed with them last night. Completely outpowered and outpaced their opponents throughout the field. Won all the breaking ball, never panicked when things were closer than they should have been and are littered with very mobile and pacey footballers who are all comfortable on the ball and generally make good decisions. They are certainly looking like one of the teams to beat and no reason why they can't go all the way.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on September 25, 2021, 06:44:25 PM
Quote from: Westside on September 25, 2021, 02:02:25 PM
Ryan McMenamin to replace Dermot McCabe in the Cavan backroom team.

How was mcmenamin got in fermanagh I wonder
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Look-Up! on September 27, 2021, 12:52:59 PM
Big wins for Ramor, Gaels and Kingscourt at the weekend, bit of a reality check for some of their opponents. Ramor very well balanced looking team, defend and attack well. McKiernan was unstoppable at times v BJD outfit, Gaels look tidy enough but if big Gearoid can be kept quiet I'm not sure how clinical the rest of their forwards are. I haven't seen Kingscourt in the flesh but they are quietly going about their business as usual and I'm sure SF is a very likely prospect for them. After that they'll take beating. Laragh and Ballinagh served up a tight contest as expected. The former will be very happy with their championship showing so far. Unbeaten and into the quarters and I wouldn't be putting any money on the champions beating them next day out either. That leaves The Lough and neighbours Ballinagh to see who will secure the final QF spot. The Kilnaleck men will be hoping their other neighbours Castlerahan can do them a favour and beat Ballinagh but that doesn't look a good bet at the moment. And even if it does happen they'll still have their work cut out against Laragh.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Look-Up! on September 27, 2021, 01:07:19 PM
Team    Pld  W  L   D   PD   Pts
Ramor    4   3   0   1   27   7
Gowna    3   3   0   0   21   6
K/court    3   3   0   0   19   6
C/Gaels    3   2   0   1   17   5
Laragh     3   1   0   2   9   4
Lavey      3   2   1   0   -4   4
M/horan   3   2   1   0 -18   4
Ballinagh  3   0   1   2   -9   2
C/lough   3   0   2   1   -4   1
Lacken    3   0   2   1   -34   1
K/garry    3   0   3   0   -3   0
S/rcock    3   0   3   0   -8   0
C/rahan    3   0   3   0   -13   0

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Look-Up! on September 27, 2021, 01:11:28 PM
Round 5 Draw
Ballinagh v Castlerahan
Laragh v Crosserlough
Lavey v C.Gaels
Kingscourt V Mullahoran
Lacken v Killygarry
Shercock v Gowna
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Look-Up! on September 27, 2021, 01:20:04 PM
Team         Pld W   L   D   PD   Pts
Ballyhaise   4   4   0   0   23   8
C/hulainns   4   3   0   1   9   7
Cornafean   4   3   1   0   21   6
Baileboro    4   3   1   0   17   6
B/bridge     4   3   1   0   12   6
K/shandra   4   3   1   0   4   6
B/machugh 4   2   2   0   3   4
Killinkere     4   2   2   0 -13   4
Drumgoon   4   1   2   1   -5   3
Templeport 4   1   2   1   -8   3
Arva           4   1   3   0   -13   2
Drumlane   4   0   3   1   -13   1
Cootehill    4   0   4   0   -11   0
Belturbet   4   0   4   0   -23   0
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Look-Up! on September 27, 2021, 01:24:15 PM
Team     Pld   W   L   D   PD   Pts
K/bride     4   4   0   0   51   8
M/nugent 4   4   0   0   21   8
Denn       4   3   0   1   39   7
Drung      4   2   2   0   22   4
Kill           4   2   2   0   1   4
Kildallan   4   2   2   0   0   4
S/Gaels   4   2   2   0   -6   4
M/aught   4   1   2   1   -8   3
Redhills    4   1   3   0   -7   2
D/alee     4   1   3   0   -8   2
S/bar      4   1   3   0   -19   2
Maghera   4   0   4   0   -86   0
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on September 28, 2021, 05:50:58 PM
Ramor look good. Damien Barkey back playing this year to give some solidity to the full back line. Paddy McNamee showing well in the full forward line, had been in Australia for a number of years but showing some guile in the full forward line at 38/29
James Brady playing very well also and Simon Cadden

Gowna going well also, maybe a bit loose in defence. Kingscourt with Joe Dillon back seem to be at full strength ..

Cornafean V Killeshandra local Derby on friday. both teams have had decent campaings so far, but knockout now in the quarters.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Look-Up! on October 04, 2021, 03:34:07 PM
QF line up confirmed. The champions are out and can have no complaints. Very flat this year.

Gaels v Laragh
Kingscourt v Lavey
Ballinagh v Ramor
Mullahoran V Gowna

Gowna should have too much for Mullahoran but could be a feisty affair. Gaels should have enough for Laragh, Laragh some nice footballers but think they'll struggle for pace. Kingscourt and Lavey tricky to call, the stars will be the bookies favourite but Lavey on their day could cause them problems. Ramor and Ballinagh should be another tight one. Ballinagh are a tough outfit but I'd be going for Ramor and if I had to call who will win it outright my money would be on the Virgina men.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Look-Up! on October 11, 2021, 02:38:39 PM
QFs went to script, exciting SF line ups with Gaels v Ramor and Kingscourt v Gowna.

I expect both games to be very tight and very hard to call who the finalists will be.
Ramor would have been my favourite from the start, very well balanced team, but as Ballinagh showed, for all their good play they don't blow teams out of the water too often. They break well with the ball, got some great ball carriers and their inside forwards get out well and win ball but if you can keep tight and compact at the back and pressure their forwards their dominance will not always reflect on the scoreboard. A late Ballinagh goal could have sent them packing despite looking the better team for much of the game. Gaels on their day are a match for anyone, a lot will depend on the performance of McKiernan. When on form they look very formidable but other times they have looked very ordinary. They have some terrific footballers though but I think if Ramor can nullify big Gearoid they have a better team overall that can adapt to more scenarios.

I've been very impressed by Gowna this year. We've seen young teams win the championship very recently in both Ramor and Crosserlough so no reason they cannot keep the trend going. Mullahoran had no answer for them as expected but it was still tight at half time and their dear neighbours did get a sniff of a goal on more than one occasion so despite their heroics this year they still need to answer the really big questions before wearing the crown. TBH I haven't seen Kingscourt at all in this years championship but they are a wily team and got some very talented players. They got loads of experience and have a good balance of youth too. It only takes a bad spell of play or a mistake to crash out and they have players like Barry Reilly to name but one to capitalise on any breaks that come their way, so for that reason I think the stars will sneak through.

Prediction: Ramor v Kingscourt final   
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Look-Up! on October 26, 2021, 12:24:29 AM
So Ramor Gowna final. Ramor got through a tough slog against Gaels. Poor enough game but was always going to be tight.
Surprised by the ease of Gowna's win, thought Kingscourt would show more. They're young and still haven't been properly tested yet but the way they've powered through the championship so far maybe there's no one good enough to test them?
Ramor are a hard team to break down and were my pick from the start but I think if they fail to keep a clean sheet in goal against this Gowna team the Longford border men could run riot.
I'll not change at this stage and stick with a Ramor win but I like the look of this Gowna team- power, pace, mobility, ability. If they can keep this group together and add more players from current fine underage teams it's the makings of a great team.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on October 26, 2021, 11:57:27 PM
Gowna have looked very good. They lost one of their best backs at start of the year  David Phillips switched to a club in sligo but the younger player's are stepping up and experience of McKeever. A lot of pace in the Gowna team. Conor Brady showoff good leadership at midfield

I thought when Ramor won in 16 they would push on  but the same could be said for Crosserlough last year.
Caffrey at midfield has had a decent championship for Ramor ..   Sean McEvoy standing out in the forwards,
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dreadnought on November 05, 2021, 01:53:39 PM
All quiet here the last while. What do we think for final Sunday? Have a slight feeling for Ramor. Think they've a lot of experience of the day recently, and have come through a lot of tight games so far this year and could be more conditioned for a hard slog on heavy ground. Gowna on paper look favourites, but think they had a very handy group and QF, and haven't really been tested for a full hour as they've won some games pulling up. They're a young team, so that could go two ways: not enough experience, or could play with no shackles. It'll be a tight enough game I think, but feel Ramor might just have enough. But this Gowna team is coming and will be here for the long run. Looking forward to the game anyway
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Look-Up! on November 08, 2021, 09:15:12 AM
All to do again next week. I thoroughly enjoyed it, the quality of the second half left a bit to be desired but it was honest edge of the seat stuff although very scrappy and error ridden. Referee played his fair share in the error count but a draw was a fair result even though it was blown up very early. Thought first black card was very harsh, other obvious enough ones not given.

Hard to know who will be the happier of the 2 sides. So many simple goal chances missed by both sides but have to say Ramor keeper and Brian O'Connell deserve massive praise on that front. Ramor looked the slicker of the two sides with even numbers, better use of ball and some great turnovers but black cards let momentum swing considerably. Virginia men were on the ropes towards the end and the legs looked to be gone but despite having 3 or 4 good match winning chances Gowna couldn't deliver the knockout blow so they may feel they left it behind them.

Only watching on a stream so hard to know what exactly was happening off the ball but I thought Gowna did some amount of complaining to the referee and nearly wanted a free every time there was any sort of contact. Lost the head a number of times too when the frees went the other way. In that respect Ramor looked the more composed and just got on with the game. So in the referee's defence it was a hard enough game to referee with all the background noise.

Hard to call the replay, I'll stick with Ramor. Hopefully we get a stronger ref. But I don't think we'll see much difference in game approach from the Lurgan outfit although the goal chances coughed up have to be a massive worry. Gowna have plenty of food for thought after that and plenty room for improvement. Thought they over ran the ball too often and distribution was sloppy enough at times. They'll need to be a lot more clinical next day out when the opportunities arise if they are to complete the double for the half parish on the Longford border.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on November 08, 2021, 07:07:41 PM
Mackey was man of the match for Mullinalaghta yesterday. Castlerahan had a good team while he was there, but Mackey was the real difference in them winning 2 Championships.


https://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/hurling/former-cavan-star-cian-mackey-stars-as-mullinalaghta-climb-the-mountain-in-longford-again-41027832.html
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Look-Up! on November 09, 2021, 08:41:26 AM
Quote from: rodney trotter on November 08, 2021, 07:07:41 PM
Mackey was man of the match for Mullinalaghta yesterday. Castlerahan had a good team while he was there, but Mackey was the real difference in them winning 2 Championships.


https://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/hurling/former-cavan-star-cian-mackey-stars-as-mullinalaghta-climb-the-mountain-in-longford-again-41027832.html
Yeah, Mackey a pure class player. As well as ability on the ball he also has that vision and passing accuracy to pick out a player in dangerous areas and unlock a defence. Always brave and made himself available for the ball no matter what. Despite losing a bit of speed and fitness that other part of his game will always be there. As you said, Castlerahan had a fine team but whether they could have won without him a very big if.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on November 09, 2021, 10:15:00 AM
When you look at most of what Cavan achieved since our resurgence in 2013, Mackey was central to it. The win against Tipperary to put us into Division 1, the draw against Armagh in the Ulster Semi-Final in 2019 stand out in particular as games we were certainly going to lose until Mackey came on and turned the tide. That's just two of many, delighted to see him adding to his medal collection. Fingers crossed he will come back to Cavan and have some input in coaching in the future.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Look-Up! on November 14, 2021, 06:49:01 PM
Great game of football today and congratulations to Ramor on the win. Deserving winners. Really came out of the traps and shell shocked their younger opponents with an early blitz. Gowna came back into it a bit but you felt they were always chasing the game from then on. The loss of Pierson who was looking very dangerous in the 2nd half was a serious blow and effectively ended the contest.

It was a tough day at the office for Gowna. Playing in Breffni on county final day is a steep learning curve and combined with the quality of the opposition, proved a step too far for them. They looked nothing like the swashbuckling team we saw all championship full of energy and running and options. They had some great individual performers on the day but for the most part the occasion passed them by. Ramor on the other hand put in a real team performance and Gowna were unable to outbattle them for the inches they found so easily earlier on in the campaign. But there's the makings of a great team there if they can develop a bit more cuteness and grit.

I think it's clear from the last 2 games that Ramor are easily the best outfit to go represent the county in the Ulster club. Really tough battling team throughout with a great balance. Excellent keeper, tigerish in defence, good at tackling and dispossessing, tactically very competent, good runners who break and use the ball well and very dangerous upfront. At times today the full forward line was sensational. Lifting the Oliver Plunkett cup is no novelty for them so while they will certainly enjoy tonight, hopefully they will be focused on their next round and give it a good rattle.   
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on November 14, 2021, 09:39:35 PM
Excellent performance by Ramor today. Really hope McEvoy sticks with Gaelic, he's electric. The Ramor defence is the most impressive thing about them, so tenacious and tough to break down.

25/1 for Ulster, longest odds of any team.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Look-Up! on November 15, 2021, 08:30:11 AM
Quote from: Westside on November 14, 2021, 09:39:35 PM
Excellent performance by Ramor today. Really hope McEvoy sticks with Gaelic, he's electric. The Ramor defence is the most impressive thing about them, so tenacious and tough to break down.

25/1 for Ulster, longest odds of any team.
Longest odds surely but I very much doubt they are the worst team in it. But they are on the toughest side of the draw with Down, Monaghan, Derry and Donegal so think it's fair enough that the odds represent the mammoth task before them.

I think in the last 5 years or so the quality of competition in the county has improved and our senior champions have performed better up north when they have got there compared to previous years when we were getting beat out the gate (if the Gaels weren't involved).

I like this Ramor team and think they are a better version of the last time they lifted the cup. They have been very consistent this year and although in some of the games their forwards were somewhat less consistent their defence has been an absolute f**ker to get the better of. There is no point trying to play champagne football against some of the clubs up north especially this time of year so for my money there is no club better suited in the county for this competition. You gotta be able to slog it out but you need quality up front when the limited chances come your way.
I'd be hoping they give a good account of themselves and I think 25/1 represents great value. If they do happen to slay the Down men those odds will slash dramatically.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on November 15, 2021, 07:26:23 PM
Ramor should give a decent a game against Kilcoo in Breffni. Its on before the Intermediate game.
The full forward line really good, Cole was scoring and creating. James Brady had a very consistent Championship and Jack Brady playing really well at Centre back.  Sean McEvoy excellent tpp.

Ramor were a better all round team then Gowna. Gowna have a good team maybe need another 2 players to come in and improve the team. A few from this years Minors might be there next year.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Look-Up! on November 16, 2021, 09:27:04 AM
 Yes Gowna have a good team and with the right additions you would imagine it will be hard to stop them lifting the cup over the coming years. They'll be losing a few players as well though- don't know how long more McKeever or Bannon to name but 2 will give it. It shouldn't be understated how good McKeever in particular was this year so that's going to be a huge void especially in the leadership stakes, an area where Gowna were very much lacking in, when the chips were really down. 

It's hard to predict what direction young lads will take either. Once their studies are done and they have to choose a career path and some hard decisions, football can often take a back seat. So while the future is looking bright for them at the moment, fortunes can take a turn south just as quick for a parish operating with small numbers. Injuries didn't help them this year either in the final. Something all clubs have to deal with but when the options off the bench are much less, this can exacerbate the problems.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on November 16, 2021, 04:41:26 PM
Yeah McKeever is still a quality player. I think his best position is half forward, but they need his experience in defence .
David Hyland was a very good midfielder, working in Dubai now. Big athletic player who could score, but all clubs lose players. David Phillips gone  as well.

Hopefully the 3 Cavan clubs can give good perormance in Ulster.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Truth hurts on November 19, 2021, 09:05:12 AM
why did Cian Mackey go to MULLINALAGHTA?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on November 19, 2021, 10:05:46 AM
He's living there.

Mackey was on the Football pod during the week https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=icUf5yR9edY
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on November 19, 2021, 09:39:06 PM
Who are the new minor managers? Good to see some youth involved with Niall and Liam Brady.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mrdeeds on November 19, 2021, 09:54:10 PM
Quote from: Westside on November 19, 2021, 09:39:06 PM
Who are the new minor managers? Good to see some youth involved with Niall and Liam Brady.

Seanie Smith Mullahoran
Barry McGahan Cootehill
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on November 23, 2021, 11:27:24 AM
Anyone else hear Sean Johnston is now added as a selector to Cavan Seniors. A real poor appointment in my opinion, how anyone could listen to the likes of him on a county panel is beyond me.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mrdeeds on November 23, 2021, 12:32:46 PM
Didn't hear. Good signing by Kingscourt.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on November 23, 2021, 08:00:33 PM
I heard Ramor vrs Killcoo is live on RTE. Hopefully they can buck the trend and do something our previous Co champs have struggled to do.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dreadnought on November 29, 2021, 08:08:39 AM
Quote from: Itchy on November 23, 2021, 11:27:24 AM
Anyone else hear Sean Johnston is now added as a selector to Cavan Seniors. A real poor appointment in my opinion, how anyone could listen to the likes of him on a county panel is beyond me.

Just as a Forwards coach, no? Not sure he's a selector as well considering Graham has John and Ricey there as well...
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on November 29, 2021, 11:18:31 AM
Quote from: Dreadnought on November 29, 2021, 08:08:39 AM
Quote from: Itchy on November 23, 2021, 11:27:24 AM
Anyone else hear Sean Johnston is now added as a selector to Cavan Seniors. A real poor appointment in my opinion, how anyone could listen to the likes of him on a county panel is beyond me.

Just as a Forwards coach, no? Not sure he's a selector as well considering Graham has John and Ricey there as well...

Don't know. Personally speaking I would not have this fella anywhere near our county panel given what happened before and I can't think of any other county in the land that would tolerate such a thing. How any player being asked for commitment and dedication and to put their body on the line for their county could be sitting in a dressing room looking across at himself is beyond me. A very poor call from Graham.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dreadnought on November 30, 2021, 04:03:46 PM
Quote from: Itchy on November 29, 2021, 11:18:31 AM
Quote from: Dreadnought on November 29, 2021, 08:08:39 AM
Quote from: Itchy on November 23, 2021, 11:27:24 AM
Anyone else hear Sean Johnston is now added as a selector to Cavan Seniors. A real poor appointment in my opinion, how anyone could listen to the likes of him on a county panel is beyond me.

Just as a Forwards coach, no? Not sure he's a selector as well considering Graham has John and Ricey there as well...

Don't know. Personally speaking I would not have this fella anywhere near our county panel given what happened before and I can't think of any other county in the land that would tolerate such a thing. How any player being asked for commitment and dedication and to put their body on the line for their county could be sitting in a dressing room looking across at himself is beyond me. A very poor call from Graham.

Bit harsh that, he's been our best produced forward for the last 20 years. Sure, he absolutely made a massive mistake, but he's not in selecting or managing the team. He's coaching forwards, and lord knows we could do with some coaching to the level he was at. We need another player who can get you those number of points from play per game that he guaranteed you. If he comes in and does well, it's win win. might not banish the nad taste from that fiasco, but he can do some good here and Graham clearly trusts him.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on November 30, 2021, 09:00:18 PM
I dont agree he's our best forward in 20 yrs. He's did nothing worth talking about in ulster champ. His clubman Martin Dunne did more in one season. As for making a mistake, has he ever admitted to a mistake or expressed remorse - I don't think so? I see an unapologetic man who is and was all about himself. A very very poor appointment.

Anyway, he's hardly worth wasting words on so I'll say no more.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on November 30, 2021, 09:36:47 PM
He has spoken about  it, sure he returned and played for Cavan from 16 to 18. 

https://www.sportsjoe.ie/gaa/always-wanted-play-cavan-seanie-johnston-opens-hard-kildare-saga-116773
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dreadnought on December 01, 2021, 09:26:38 AM
Quote from: Itchy on November 30, 2021, 09:00:18 PM
I dont agree he's our best forward in 20 yrs. He's did nothing worth talking about in ulster champ. His clubman Martin Dunne did more in one season. As for making a mistake, has he ever admitted to a mistake or expressed remorse - I don't think so? I see an unapologetic man who is and was all about himself. A very very poor appointment.

Anyway, he's hardly worth wasting words on so I'll say no more.

Really don't know how you could say that. He was easily our best in the last 20 years, no matter what way you spin it. Yes, Dunne had one good season when we got a run on a few poor teams, but nothing before or after that. Johnston was at least consistent, knew where the posts were, and scored freely regularly. I recall games where he won it for us many times over the years. he was always touted as the best player from Cavan on other peoples shortlists for years. Always the targeted man as well, and yet he still got the scores. Look, you don't have to like him. We know the reasons and I'd have them myself. But lets not pretend he wasn't a cracking player and wasn't our best forward in the last 20 years. If he passes on any knowledge to our current crop, then this works for me.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Cavan19 on December 01, 2021, 09:55:17 AM
Quote from: Dreadnought on December 01, 2021, 09:26:38 AM
Quote from: Itchy on November 30, 2021, 09:00:18 PM
I dont agree he's our best forward in 20 yrs. He's did nothing worth talking about in ulster champ. His clubman Martin Dunne did more in one season. As for making a mistake, has he ever admitted to a mistake or expressed remorse - I don't think so? I see an unapologetic man who is and was all about himself. A very very poor appointment.

Anyway, he's hardly worth wasting words on so I'll say no more.

Really don't know how you could say that. He was easily our best in the last 20 years, no matter what way you spin it. Yes, Dunne had one good season when we got a run on a few poor teams, but nothing before or after that. Johnston was at least consistent, knew where the posts were, and scored freely regularly. I recall games where he won it for us many times over the years. he was always touted as the best player from Cavan on other peoples shortlists for years. Always the targeted man as well, and yet he still got the scores. Look, you don't have to like him. We know the reasons and I'd have them myself. But lets not pretend he wasn't a cracking player and wasn't our best forward in the last 20 years. If he passes on any knowledge to our current crop, then this works for me.

He was a league player never did a whole lot in the Ulster Championship when the chips were down.

I wouldn't have him about the place either he wouldn't be a good role model for younger players.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on December 01, 2021, 12:23:55 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on November 30, 2021, 09:36:47 PM
He has spoken about  it, sure he returned and played for Cavan from 16 to 18. 

https://www.sportsjoe.ie/gaa/always-wanted-play-cavan-seanie-johnston-opens-hard-kildare-saga-116773

I read that alright before. There is no regret in it only self pity. The game he came on against Cavan in for Kildare was a 20 point hammering, he came on and everyone on the Kildare team was trying to give him the ball to score. It was pre-meditated, there wasn't even a need to bring him on it that game. It was a kick in the balls to Cavan nothing more. No one is entitled to play for their county - you earn it and better players than Johnson have been dropped for their counties. The sense of entitlement and self pity are unreal, I could respect a man who said he made a big mistake and was sorry for it but thats not what we are dealing with here.

Dreadnought, I dont doubt he was a very skilled player but my challenge to you is to put up some Ulster championship stats on his scoring in those big games. They are not half as good as you think. No where near Jason, Larry etc. All his big shows were in the league and a lot in Div 3. The fact that lazy journalists say otherwise is neither here nor there. Martin Dunne was 2nd top scores in the country in the championship that year, only passed out on all ireland final day if I recall correctly.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on December 01, 2021, 06:22:47 PM
Paul Brady and Michael Hannon involved in the new Longford management team.

Any retirements from the County panel? Martin Reilly got a bad injury against Tyrone
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on December 01, 2021, 07:57:47 PM
I don't think stats is really a good way to measure Johnston's time with Cavan. He came through as Cavan entered probably their lowest ebb. The whole Kildare thing, the stories about his attitude etc don't negate the fact that he was extremely talented. The most naturally gifted marksman I have seen play for Cavan. A good forward doesn't necessarily make a good forward coach though. I hope he's there because he's a good coach and not because he's from the Gaels and knows Mickey.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Look-Up! on December 02, 2021, 12:43:31 PM
I'd be leaning towards Westside's opinion there. No doubt SJ was an extremely talented forward. His club record is exceptional. We've seen more effective forwards in Championship for Cavan last 20yrs but think he suffered from playing in weaker teams so was easily isolated by seasoned Ulster defenders. If he had come on the scene around the time of our good U21 teams who knows what could have been.

I don't know the man but have heard a lot of second hand horror stories. But TBH, anyone I have spoken to who has had direct dealings with him -be it playing for club or county, students of his or people outside of football- I have never heard them bad mouth him or recount any diva stories. I've only heard them speak well of him, a pleasant friendly lad by all accounts.

The Kildare affair left for bad optics but it's a long time ago, he was a young lad in his 20s who only wanted to play ball. I happen to agree with Andrew's shaking up the squad and have no doubt Seanie would have been back in sooner or later but unfortunately he took it worse than could have been anticipated and with Geezer in his ear, made a very impulsive decision. If we were to be all judged by what we did in our 20's, none of us would be smelling too good.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on December 02, 2021, 03:15:17 PM
He was 26 years old when he did all that, hardly an impressionable teenager. I see no remorse or accountability since 2012. If you don't got those it doesn't matter about ability or anything else. You lack credibility when the chips are down. Why Graham would drag up this skeleton out of the closet is beyond my comprehension.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Cavan19 on December 02, 2021, 03:48:04 PM
Quote from: Itchy on December 02, 2021, 03:15:17 PM
He was 26 years old when he did all that, hardly an impressionable teenager. I see no remorse or accountability since 2012. If you don't got those it doesn't matter about ability or anything else. You lack credibility when the chips are down. Why Graham would drag up this skeleton out of the closet is beyond my comprehension.

Graham asked Ricey to join the Cavan setup after a few pints in the Boars head it's possible Johnston was knocking about that day as well.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on December 02, 2021, 04:34:25 PM
Quote from: Itchy on December 02, 2021, 03:15:17 PM
He was 26 years old when he did all that, hardly an impressionable teenager. I see no remorse or accountability since 2012. If you don't got those it doesn't matter about ability or anything else. You lack credibility when the chips are down. Why Graham would drag up this skeleton out of the closet is beyond my comprehension.

To be fair Itchy, he came back and played for Cavan since. Had he never put back on the Cavan jersey after he left for Kildare it would be a skeleton but he was back in the squad, was with the team to an Ulster Semi Final replay and promotion to Division 1. The Kildare drama, whatever shadow it casts on his legacy and whether people forgave him or not, was put to bed once Terry brought him back.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dreadnought on December 03, 2021, 03:16:25 PM
Quote from: Cavan19 on December 01, 2021, 09:55:17 AM
Quote from: Dreadnought on December 01, 2021, 09:26:38 AM
Quote from: Itchy on November 30, 2021, 09:00:18 PM
I dont agree he's our best forward in 20 yrs. He's did nothing worth talking about in ulster champ. His clubman Martin Dunne did more in one season. As for making a mistake, has he ever admitted to a mistake or expressed remorse - I don't think so? I see an unapologetic man who is and was all about himself. A very very poor appointment.

Anyway, he's hardly worth wasting words on so I'll say no more.

Really don't know how you could say that. He was easily our best in the last 20 years, no matter what way you spin it. Yes, Dunne had one good season when we got a run on a few poor teams, but nothing before or after that. Johnston was at least consistent, knew where the posts were, and scored freely regularly. I recall games where he won it for us many times over the years. he was always touted as the best player from Cavan on other peoples shortlists for years. Always the targeted man as well, and yet he still got the scores. Look, you don't have to like him. We know the reasons and I'd have them myself. But lets not pretend he wasn't a cracking player and wasn't our best forward in the last 20 years. If he passes on any knowledge to our current crop, then this works for me.

He was a league player never did a whole lot in the Ulster Championship when the chips were down.

I wouldn't have him about the place either he wouldn't be a good role model for younger players.

Ah now, that's unfair. We were brutal all over in his time pre 2010, yet in many of the games we did win in Championship in that era, he was our best player and top scorer. When he came back, I recall a few very good performances against Armagh in 16. He did do a whole lot, certainly more than some. He was always our stand out player that only teams had to target and team up on. Lets not be revisionist here due to what he did...
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on December 03, 2021, 03:25:54 PM
McMemamin will likely be a backs coach, along with a selector. Martin Corey seems to be sill involved so will be a few voices on the training ground.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on December 03, 2021, 06:07:29 PM
Quote from: Dreadnought on December 03, 2021, 03:16:25 PM
Quote from: Cavan19 on December 01, 2021, 09:55:17 AM
Quote from: Dreadnought on December 01, 2021, 09:26:38 AM
Quote from: Itchy on November 30, 2021, 09:00:18 PM
I dont agree he's our best forward in 20 yrs. He's did nothing worth talking about in ulster champ. His clubman Martin Dunne did more in one season. As for making a mistake, has he ever admitted to a mistake or expressed remorse - I don't think so? I see an unapologetic man who is and was all about himself. A very very poor appointment.

Anyway, he's hardly worth wasting words on so I'll say no more.

Really don't know how you could say that. He was easily our best in the last 20 years, no matter what way you spin it. Yes, Dunne had one good season when we got a run on a few poor teams, but nothing before or after that. Johnston was at least consistent, knew where the posts were, and scored freely regularly. I recall games where he won it for us many times over the years. he was always touted as the best player from Cavan on other peoples shortlists for years. Always the targeted man as well, and yet he still got the scores. Look, you don't have to like him. We know the reasons and I'd have them myself. But lets not pretend he wasn't a cracking player and wasn't our best forward in the last 20 years. If he passes on any knowledge to our current crop, then this works for me.

He was a league player never did a whole lot in the Ulster Championship when the chips were down.

I wouldn't have him about the place either he wouldn't be a good role model for younger players.

Ah now, that's unfair. We were brutal all over in his time pre 2010, yet in many of the games we did win in Championship in that era, he was our best player and top scorer. When he came back, I recall a few very good performances against Armagh in 16. He did do a whole lot, certainly more than some. He was always our stand out player that only teams had to target and team up on. Lets not be revisionist here due to what he did...

I think you are the one suffering with revisionism. I might get some data sometime and show you since you didn't back up what you said with any yourself
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on December 21, 2021, 10:06:55 AM
https://twitter.com/TheNumbersGael/status/1472679571115945996?t=mGqoRW03Yi-ZZ29RF_u4oQ&s=19

Stats are great. Gearoid No 11 on this list, only Cavan man on it. Some achievement considering he played midfield half the time. No other Cavan player made the list.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on December 21, 2021, 01:37:56 PM
League Fixtures are out. Leitrim, Sligo, London away. Wexford, Tipperary, Carlow, Waterford at home. Probably as good a draw as you could hope for. Think it could be tough though, we don't have the depth of talent or scoring power to put away Division 4 teams comfortably. Hopefully we can get promoted and get to Croke Park.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on December 21, 2021, 02:47:22 PM
Michael Quinlivan not playing for Tipperary in 22.

Cavan will still find it tough against these teams.  Andy Moran should give Leitrim a lift. 
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on December 22, 2021, 01:06:19 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on December 21, 2021, 02:47:22 PM
Michael Quinlivan not playing for Tipperary in 22.

Cavan will still find it tough against these teams.  Andy Moran should give Leitrim a lift.

Cavan are 5 to 10 points better than every team in that division bar Tipp. The only thing that can stop us is ourselves not treating it seriously. Mickey needs to get over his "league doesnt matter" mantra. It matters when you are in Div 4. It is an absolute must for us to get out of Div 4 at 1st time of asking and he should also make it a major goal to win the Div 4 cup in Croke Park too. Sligo are training like f*ck and I am sure as you say Leitrim will get a bounce too. Cavan cannot just rock up and be looking at a game in the summer when there is business to be done in Jan/Feb.

Weve also got a draw that is very favourable so there are just no excuses for anything other than a immediate return to Div 3
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on December 22, 2021, 01:12:50 PM
Cavan have had 3 successive Relegations, so if they don't take the League serious now they never will.  Cavan should beat most of the team ,but will.be a lot of dogfights..February and March football is usually a slog. Need players ready for a battle not expecting to turn up and get a win.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on December 22, 2021, 01:28:40 PM
I saw Paul Fitz posted a list of our first round fixture since 2000. We haven't won a first round game since 2014. There should be a huge target on that first game against Leitrim in Carrick. I agree with Itchy, there can be no easing into this year. If you can't get out of Division 4 at the first time of asking it's probably the end of his managerial career with Cavan.
I think he needs to freshen things up a bit too. A lot of our stalwarts have looked tired and jaded, there's a lot of miles on the clock. We need to develop a few lads like Oisin Brady and McEvoy (if he's there), get the most out of Thomas Galligan and freshen up lads like Faulkner and Oisin Kiernan who are gone off the boil.

Supporters should be prepared for this to be tough, we will hopefully have learned from last year that an Ulster title doesn't mean you can just breeze in and beat the so called lesser teams easily. Getting out of Division 4 doesn't have to be pretty, just needs to be professional.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Look-Up! on December 22, 2021, 02:09:57 PM
"The league doesn't matter" is not a mantra any serious county team or manager believes in. And I don't believe that's the case for us either. It's just an after excuse we've used for extremely poor form and performances. It's also the bread and butter for filling the coffers of county boards. We're now in a bit of bother in that area and regardless of performances this season we can expect very poor attendances and there won't be a lot of money to go around to pay all the extras county panels rely on. 
We'll see how we go this year but until we start finding the onion bag regularly and shore up considerably at the back we're 10 point better than no one in the country.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: on the sideline on December 28, 2021, 06:56:57 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on December 03, 2021, 03:25:54 PM
McMemamin will likely be a backs coach, along with a selector. Martin Corey seems to be sill involved so will be a few voices on the training ground.

McMenamin appointed new Dromore manager there.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on December 29, 2021, 06:59:32 PM
Quote from: on the sideline on December 28, 2021, 06:56:57 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on December 03, 2021, 03:25:54 PM
McMemamin will likely be a backs coach, along with a selector. Martin Corey seems to be sill involved so will be a few voices on the training ground.

McMenamin appointed new Dromore manager there.

It's not possible to manage a club team and be a coach on a county team. I wouldn't tolerate that at all if I were involved in co board.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Look-Up! on December 30, 2021, 06:06:47 PM
Quote from: Itchy on December 29, 2021, 06:59:32 PM
Quote from: on the sideline on December 28, 2021, 06:56:57 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on December 03, 2021, 03:25:54 PM
McMemamin will likely be a backs coach, along with a selector. Martin Corey seems to be sill involved so will be a few voices on the training ground.

McMenamin appointed new Dromore manager there.

It's not possible to manage a club team and be a coach on a county team. I wouldn't tolerate that at all if I were involved in co board.
I wonder how much these lads are pulling in money wise double jobbing. Seems a nice money racket to me if true and also a massive piss take considering the state we're in at the moment.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on December 30, 2021, 06:19:07 PM
Shouldn't be tolerated, Cavan should be his singular focus if he's to be involved.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on January 02, 2022, 07:32:19 PM
Anyone know who's on the Cavan panel, seems to be like a state secret. You'd have more chance to find out what the yanks are at in area 21.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: the goal was on on January 02, 2022, 10:18:54 PM
Quote from: Westside on December 30, 2021, 06:19:07 PM
Shouldn't be tolerated, Cavan should be his singular focus if he's to be involved.

Ricey knows he'll have plenty of time to get dromore ready for championship. But seriously it shows the lack of commitment. Imagine a player saying I'm gonna be playing a bit of soccer with another teams here couple times a week !
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Cavan19 on January 04, 2022, 09:24:16 AM
Quote from: Westside on December 30, 2021, 06:19:07 PM
Shouldn't be tolerated, Cavan should be his singular focus if he's to be involved.

Graham and McCabe were double jobbing they can hardly tell Ricey he cant.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on January 04, 2022, 09:35:56 AM
Quote from: Cavan19 on January 04, 2022, 09:24:16 AM
Quote from: Westside on December 30, 2021, 06:19:07 PM
Shouldn't be tolerated, Cavan should be his singular focus if he's to be involved.

Graham and McCabe were double jobbing they can hardly tell Ricey he cant.

That shouldnt have been tolerated either in my opinion, bar when Graham took the job initially when he was in the middle of a leinster club campaign
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Cavan19 on January 05, 2022, 10:57:03 AM
Quote from: Itchy on January 04, 2022, 09:35:56 AM
Quote from: Cavan19 on January 04, 2022, 09:24:16 AM
Quote from: Westside on December 30, 2021, 06:19:07 PM
Shouldn't be tolerated, Cavan should be his singular focus if he's to be involved.

Graham and McCabe were double jobbing they can hardly tell Ricey he cant.

That shouldnt have been tolerated either in my opinion, bar when Graham took the job initially when he was in the middle of a leinster club campaign

Just another thing to add Johnston is probably double jobbing as well.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on January 05, 2022, 03:40:50 PM
Well since his only interest is and has always been himself that wouldnt surprise me either.

I dont get a good vibe at all about this campaign. Mickey already talking about only being back a few weeks, bemoaning covid and injuries as we head for bloody Div 4. Everyone double jobbing it seems. I hope I am wrong. Apparently Roscommon battered us in a challenge and they seem to be missing lots of lads from last year too. I would fear for us in the McKenna Cup games against Tyrone and Armagh, while meaningless you still dont want to be getting thumped.

I watched Leitrim and Sligo online the other day, both looked quite fit and moving well for this time of year while also having a number of new comers. There will be nothing soft against those 2.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on January 05, 2022, 05:19:11 PM
Game against armagh is being live streamed
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on January 06, 2022, 09:28:34 PM
Time for Ray Galligan to sit out the league and let the young Ramor keeper have a go. His performance this evening was joke shop stuff. Coming out for balls he had no business coming for, taking and missing frees on gearoids side and the farcical goal at the end. Strikes me as a lad that needs a kick in the hole.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Cavan19 on January 07, 2022, 08:26:02 AM
Quote from: Itchy on January 06, 2022, 09:28:34 PM
Time for Ray Galligan to sit out the league and let the young Ramor keeper have a go. His performance this evening was joke shop stuff. Coming out for balls he had no business coming for, taking and missing frees on gearoids side and the farcical goal at the end. Strikes me as a lad that needs a kick in the hole.

There is no need for him to be playing all these games anyway and its the same every year Graham needs to be given game time to the other keepers on the panel.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on January 07, 2022, 10:17:10 AM
Is Moynagh on the panel this year? What about Conor Smith?

Have to say the thing I find most disappointing is the lads that came in last year on the back of the Ulster success, got Championship game time and then pulled out again this year. I know everyone has their own stuff going on but it reflects very badly.

I thought we were going to be hammered after the first half last night. But they did well in the second half. A few lads have 'wintered well' and there's a lot of hard work ahead before we head to Carrick.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Look-Up! on January 07, 2022, 12:02:51 PM
Dogged enough stuff at times, closer than I expected. I don't know if that's because we were better or Armagh were worse than anticipated. In any event it's a pity we didn't grind out a win, we had enough chances plus we could do with an extra game. I know lads are rusty this time of year but I thought our decision making up front especially when we had multiple good options let us down badly at crucial times.

Didn't see anything to change my mind on how the league will go. It will be dour and dogged and hard on the eye. We looked extremely defensive at times last night and there's nothing to suggest we will go into free scoring mode anytime soon. We will be hard to beat in Division 4 for sure but I will be very surprised if we win every game, I just can't see it. Where that leaves us in the race for promotion I'm not sure. Hopefully we'll scrape it but we're liable to go either way plus injuries to 1 or 2 big players would be disastrous.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on January 07, 2022, 12:39:33 PM
We have been so inconsistent under Mickey, it would be a brave person to be predicting promotion at this point. Playing two division 1 teams is good preparation though. Hopefully we can compete with Tyrone next Tuesday.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Cavan19 on January 07, 2022, 03:13:36 PM
Could struggle against Leitrim without Gearoid.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on January 07, 2022, 06:38:32 PM
Why no Gearoid?

One thing that's evident is we are much bigger and better conditioned than Leitrim. I'd expect us to win that game with a bit to spare having watch cavan and Leitrim opening games
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on January 07, 2022, 08:36:01 PM
Leitrim will be tough IMO. It's in Carrick and while we don't see this match up often, this is a local derby. Emlyn Mulligan will nail most of his frees, Keith Beirne is better than all of the Cavan forward bar Gearoid. Tom Prior and Ryan O'Rourke are quality dynamic young forwards. I think their defence isn't great but we don't have much quality to punish them with.

We are more experienced and will be relying on our strength around the middle to pin them back.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on January 07, 2022, 08:59:37 PM
Quote from: Westside on January 07, 2022, 08:36:01 PM
Leitrim will be tough IMO. It's in Carrick and while we don't see this match up often, this is a local derby. Emlyn Mulligan will nail most of his frees, Keith Beirne is better than all of the Cavan forward bar Gearoid. Tom Prior and Ryan O'Rourke are quality dynamic young forwards. I think their defence isn't great but we don't have much quality to punish them with.

We are more experienced and will be relying on our strength around the middle to pin them back.

Emlyn Mulligan,  he wasn't even taking frees against Sligo and personally never saw what the fuss about him wss. They had a few lively looking forwards but extremely limited elsewhere. Let's not try talk up Leitrim, they will make life tough for us  but we should be winning it with bit to spare.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on January 07, 2022, 10:17:00 PM
Mulligan was an excellent forward, for both club and county. Was always deadly off the frees, surprised he's off them. Questionable whether he still has the pace for this level now.

I'd be confident that we can beat Leitrim if we perform. But last year taught us all about the difference between the games Cavan 'should' win and the games Cavan do win.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Look-Up! on January 09, 2022, 12:09:37 PM
Leitrim are very limited and had an extremely poor year last year conceding some massive tallies. But we're in Division 4 for a reason and can't really afford to talk ourselves up much until we see how we hit the ground. But if the Leitrim of last year take the field it would be extremely worrying if our forwards can't make inroads even without Gearoid.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: sidelineball on January 11, 2022, 09:46:19 PM
Gave the All -Ireland champs a good hiding. Cavan still in second gear, could we be ready to claim back Ulster and take the next step? Definitely more in that team.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on January 11, 2022, 09:53:54 PM
A good performance and good to see few forwards scoring and some key men getting game time but lads Tyrone were beyond woeful. Still you can only beat what's in front of you.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on January 11, 2022, 09:58:22 PM
Was really happy with the attitude and approach of the Cavan team. Still lots of poor play going forward when we were absolutely dominant we managed to fluff several goal chances. Oddly, we will have far tougher tests in Division 4 but it's been a promising start to the year. The League is being taken seriously, no doubt about that.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Look-Up! on January 11, 2022, 10:46:04 PM
Great result tonight. I know you can question what kind of team Tyrone put out there but it's preseason and we're preparing for a very important league campaign and that should have guaranteed us another game.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on January 11, 2022, 10:52:10 PM
Though Oisin Brady done well again.  Patrick Lynch with some really good scores off either foot. He's capable of being a very good County forward but  was given a lot of space tonight.

Cavan look in good shape.  In previous Mckenna cup campaigns a few looked noticeably out of shape
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: full moon on January 11, 2022, 10:53:28 PM
Great stuff tonight, yes Tyrone had holidays and a weakened team but McGeary, McCurry, Harte, Hampsey, Meyler etc still all played.

We turned up prepared and ready for battle, which we failed to do last year in the league especially. Now let's push on and get back up the divisions and give Ulster a rattle.

Our weakness is still the full forward line. We need to start putting away goals, we just find it very difficult and are lacking that quality inside like the top teams. I did think Caoimhin O'Reilly looked sharp there when he came on and is capable of doing a good job in there if he gets a run.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: full moon on January 11, 2022, 10:56:03 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on January 11, 2022, 10:52:10 PM
Though Oisin Brady done well again.  Patrick Lynch with some really good scores off either foot. He's capable of being a very good County forward but  was given a lot of space tonight.

Cavan look in good shape.  In previous Mckenna cup campaigns a few looked noticeably out of shape

Lynch had a good point ruled wide by the umpire. Tyrone also had a few soft frees for 2 of their points.

There was some good scores by the forwards but as you said there was a lot of space and plenty missed opportunities to work on.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: sidelineball on January 11, 2022, 11:07:31 PM
Quote from: full moon on January 11, 2022, 10:53:28 PM
Great stuff tonight, yes Tyrone had holidays and a weakened team but McGeary, McCurry, Harte, Hampsey, Meyler etc still all played.

We turned up prepared and ready for battle, which we failed to do last year in the league especially. Now let's push on and get back up the divisions and give Ulster a rattle.

Our weakness is still the full forward line. We need to start putting away goals, we just find it very difficult and are lacking that quality inside like the top teams. I did think Caoimhin O'Reilly looked sharp there when he came on and is capable of doing a good job in there if he gets a run.

You're right, most of All Ireland winning team so there's no excuses.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: nrico2006 on January 12, 2022, 08:15:45 AM
Quote from: sidelineball on January 11, 2022, 11:07:31 PM
Quote from: full moon on January 11, 2022, 10:53:28 PM
Great stuff tonight, yes Tyrone had holidays and a weakened team but McGeary, McCurry, Harte, Hampsey, Meyler etc still all played.

We turned up prepared and ready for battle, which we failed to do last year in the league especially. Now let's push on and get back up the divisions and give Ulster a rattle.

Our weakness is still the full forward line. We need to start putting away goals, we just find it very difficult and are lacking that quality inside like the top teams. I did think Caoimhin O'Reilly looked sharp there when he came on and is capable of doing a good job in there if he gets a run.

You're right, most of All Ireland winning team so there's no excuses.

4 started from the all ireland final, you must have a different definition of the word 'most'.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: tyrone08 on January 12, 2022, 09:02:59 AM
Quote from: nrico2006 on January 12, 2022, 08:15:45 AM
Quote from: sidelineball on January 11, 2022, 11:07:31 PM
Quote from: full moon on January 11, 2022, 10:53:28 PM
Great stuff tonight, yes Tyrone had holidays and a weakened team but McGeary, McCurry, Harte, Hampsey, Meyler etc still all played.

We turned up prepared and ready for battle, which we failed to do last year in the league especially. Now let's push on and get back up the divisions and give Ulster a rattle.

Our weakness is still the full forward line. We need to start putting away goals, we just find it very difficult and are lacking that quality inside like the top teams. I did think Caoimhin O'Reilly looked sharp there when he came on and is capable of doing a good job in there if he gets a run.

You're right, most of All Ireland winning team so there's no excuses.

4 started from the all ireland final, you must have a different definition of the word 'most'.

LOL even if the whole AI winning team started they were less than 48hours home from a 2 week piss up with no training completed. People reading far too much into that game.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on January 12, 2022, 09:52:23 AM
Nobody is reading anything into the game. Everyone is well aware of the circumstances surrounding the result.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on January 12, 2022, 07:08:00 PM
Have we any players involved in the Sigerson
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: full moon on January 12, 2022, 07:22:56 PM
Quote from: Itchy on January 12, 2022, 07:08:00 PM
Have we any players involved in the Sigerson
Few line ups I checked. Darragh Kennedy played for UCD earlier. Donal Keappock (Drumgoon Éire Óg) came on for Carlow IT.

Few more here:(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FI6beVhWQAExOJu?format=jpg&name=medium)

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FI6tuYiX0AM02Zj?format=jpg&name=medium)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: full moon on January 12, 2022, 07:49:12 PM
Also
Sligo IT:  L Molloy (Cavan Gaels) M McGahern (Mullahoran)

Think Thomas Galligan is playing for Ulster University tonight but can't get a line up.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on January 12, 2022, 08:58:53 PM
Ah Ref on Twitter has all the Sigerson Panels. Caoimhin O Reilly was with DCU for the Ryan Cup, but on Cavan panel yesterday.

Shane Hanley was on the Maynooth panel against DCU.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dreadnought on January 14, 2022, 08:11:30 AM
Going to be interesting watching out for the McKenna Cup games tomorrow. Any Tyrone win will likely see us top the group and into the semis, unless they somehow overturn a 26 point differential to us. Who knows how they'll play though, if they're still on holiday mode, or if they're annoyed by that result on Tuesday night. They should be up for Armagh anyway. Anyway, it would be great for the lads to get another game before the league to really see where we are.

Looks like Monaghan are already through, the winner of Donegal and Antrim will go through as group winner there, and likely Derry if they beat Fermanagh. So it'll be a tough semi if things do swing our way with Tyrone beating Armagh, so bring it on. A good tough game is what's wanted before we visit Leitrim.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: skeog on January 14, 2022, 10:30:26 AM
Two chances of Cavan qualifying slim and none.Tyrone couldnt give a toss about the MCK cup unlike previous regime.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on January 14, 2022, 11:00:55 AM
Quote from: skeog on January 14, 2022, 10:30:26 AM
Two chances of Cavan qualifying slim and none.Tyrone couldnt give a toss about the MCK cup unlike previous regime.

They might give a toss about losing to Armagh in their own patch as returning All Ireland Champions though?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dreadnought on January 14, 2022, 11:18:30 AM
Quote from: skeog on January 14, 2022, 10:30:26 AM
Two chances of Cavan qualifying slim and none.Tyrone couldnt give a toss about the MCK cup unlike previous regime.

Hardly slim and none. Tyrone are proud, and that beating will hurt them. And they hate Armagh. They're now home nearly a week, will likely have more personnel available and a week of training behind them. They'll have cleared some cobwebs. They'll want a performance as it's their last game before the league. There is a chance they could win, and hopefully they do it and we get through.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on January 16, 2022, 02:29:34 PM
Good win for Denn. I thought Brendan's looked excellent at the start but they quickly faded and Denn played better, smarter football.

Gneeveguilla up next. They were Munster Intermediate Champions a decade ago and hammered the Tipp champions in the Munster final. Could be a tough day at the office for Denn.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on January 18, 2022, 05:38:51 PM
The structure in Kerry means their clubs dominate Munster Intermediate and Junior.  There is 64 clubs in Kerry but just 8 play Senior Championship, with another 8 teams of Amalgamations.

The 9th best team in Kerry plays in Intermediate, when realistically 12 to 16 teams should be in their Senior Championship. But each County board has their own way of setting things up. Sean kelly passed that structure.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dreadnought on January 21, 2022, 09:49:47 AM
Quote from: rodney trotter on January 18, 2022, 05:38:51 PM
The structure in Kerry means their clubs dominate Munster Intermediate and Junior.  There is 64 clubs in Kerry but just 8 play Senior Championship, with another 8 teams of Amalgamations.

The 9th best team in Kerry plays in Intermediate, when realistically 12 to 16 teams should be in their Senior Championship. But each County board has their own way of setting things up. Sean kelly passed that structure.

Think we're looking at this the wrong way, it's a good thing, not something to be annoyed about. Think it's a great structure and more should be looking at it as it has repeatedly worked for Kerry. It's how they have very strong players, and then very strong intermediate and junior teams. Not only are their intermediate champs the 9th best, but you've likely a fair selection of that team playing Senior for their region/amalgamation where they play against the best and learn from them. We should emulate that, not give out about it. We're also so stuck on club only mentality in Cavan, that we can't see the forest for the trees. They can still play club, while joining in with the amalgamation afterwards. That should be easily worked into our calendar here. It can only let us get stronger and have better equipped players for the County team.

But anyway, yes, will be a tough test for Denn, but they're going well. And while they were Intermediate Champs in Munster 10 or so years ago, they've clearly fallen down the grades to Junior since. So while they'll be very good and tough, it's not like Denn don't have a chance. They're playing very well too
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on January 21, 2022, 11:34:32 AM
It is a good structure but its a very win at all cost structure.  There is more then 8 teams capable of playing Senior in Kerry.

And Kerry have been doing it for years ,so wouldn't be easy to emulate it in Cavan.  In kerry they are proud of their regional areas, North  West  Mid ,South, East.  I don't think that players in Cavan would have that same gra to with a amalgamationafter being knocked out with the club.

With the split season maybe they could trial  regional leagues in Cavan without County players?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on January 21, 2022, 01:05:54 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on January 21, 2022, 11:34:32 AM
It is a good structure but its a very win at all cost structure.  There is more then 8 teams capable of playing Senior in Kerry.

And Kerry have been doing it for years ,so wouldn't be easy to emulate it in Cavan.  In kerry they are proud of their regional areas, North  West  Mid ,South, East.  I don't think that players in Cavan would have that same gra to with a amalgamationafter being knocked out with the club.

With the split season maybe they could trial  regional leagues in Cavan without County players?

You'd swear Kerry won every all Ireland going. They don't. This is a very Kerry specific set up that doesn't exist anywhere else. I dont believe it would work in Cavan. Tyrone are all ireland champions, Dublin before that. What do they do. We have amalgamated the arse out of our minor club teams yet our minor county team have been hopeless for years.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on January 21, 2022, 01:55:16 PM
Clubs are too obsessed with Amalgamations underage in Cavan.  It brings on players playing Division 1, but a lot of players are missing out. It would benefit some clubs to go on their own and try and win  a Division 3 title then Amalgamating in Division 1

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on January 22, 2022, 05:23:55 PM
Quote from: Itchy on January 21, 2022, 01:05:54 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on January 21, 2022, 11:34:32 AM
It is a good structure but its a very win at all cost structure.  There is more then 8 teams capable of playing Senior in Kerry.

And Kerry have been doing it for years ,so wouldn't be easy to emulate it in Cavan.  In kerry they are proud of their regional areas, North  West  Mid ,South, East.  I don't think that players in Cavan would have that same gra to with a amalgamationafter being knocked out with the club.

With the split season maybe they could trial  regional leagues in Cavan without County players?

You'd swear Kerry won every all Ireland going. They don't. This is a very Kerry specific set up that doesn't exist anywhere else. I dont believe it would work in Cavan. Tyrone are all ireland champions, Dublin before that. What do they do. We have amalgamated the arse out of our minor club teams yet our minor county team have been hopeless for years.

I never actually mentioned Kerry dominating at County level. The point was about their dominance in Junior and Intermediate level.Which is helped with so few Senior teams

Munster Junior winners https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Munster_Junior_Club_Football_Championship
Intermediate https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Munster_Intermediate_Club_Football_Championship

Cavan away to Monaghan in the U20 Ulster Championship.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on January 22, 2022, 05:38:14 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on January 22, 2022, 05:23:55 PM
Quote from: Itchy on January 21, 2022, 01:05:54 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on January 21, 2022, 11:34:32 AM
It is a good structure but its a very win at all cost structure.  There is more then 8 teams capable of playing Senior in Kerry.

And Kerry have been doing it for years ,so wouldn't be easy to emulate it in Cavan.  In kerry they are proud of their regional areas, North  West  Mid ,South, East.  I don't think that players in Cavan would have that same gra to with a amalgamationafter being knocked out with the club.

With the split season maybe they could trial  regional leagues in Cavan without County players?

You'd swear Kerry won every all Ireland going. They don't. This is a very Kerry specific set up that doesn't exist anywhere else. I dont believe it would work in Cavan. Tyrone are all ireland champions, Dublin before that. What do they do. We have amalgamated the arse out of our minor club teams yet our minor county team have been hopeless for years.

I never actually mentioned Kerry dominating at County level. The point was about their dominance in Junior and Intermediate level.Which is helped with so few Senior teams

Munster Junior winners https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Munster_Junior_Club_Football_Championship
Intermediate https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Munster_Intermediate_Club_Football_Championship

Cavan away to Monaghan in the U20 Ulster Championship.

I wasn't arguing with you, just pointing out Kerrys system won't work in Cavan and at end of the day they are not Irelands strongest county anymore. The win so much jnr and intermediate as they pretty much cheat the system by how they set up their championships as you've pointed out. Maybe in cavan we could have 4 teams senior playing each other home and away twice, then 4 intermediate doing the same and throw the rest into junior. We'd be racking up the intermediate and junior titles then. (A joke)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on January 22, 2022, 05:51:02 PM
Hopefully Denn give a good account of themselves next week, but the Kerry team seem nailed on for the All Ireland.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on January 25, 2022, 01:41:08 PM
Any word if there was a Challenge game at the weekend?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dreadnought on January 26, 2022, 11:00:35 AM
Quote from: Westside on January 25, 2022, 01:41:08 PM
Any word if there was a Challenge game at the weekend?

Was about to ask myself. Would be very surprised if there wasn't as everyone will be mad for games, but haven't heard anything myself.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on January 26, 2022, 11:41:33 AM
McKiernan and Martin both missing this weekend. Really need a big performance from the likes of Lynch and Madden.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on January 29, 2022, 10:28:48 AM
New Inter County referees for 2022

Maggie Farrelly (Cavan)
Kieran Eannetta (Tyrone)
Chris Maguire (Clare)
Thomas Murphy (Galway)
Jonathan Hayes (Limerick)

Gone from last year
Ciaran Branagan (Down, mandatory retirement)
Padraig Hughes (Armagh)
Fergal Smyth
Seamus Mulvihill
James Bermingham
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Look-Up! on January 30, 2022, 09:45:14 AM
 As strong a team as we could put out named. Of course we're still experimenting forwards wise but you'd hope to see some considerable promise there today. I think it's a positive we have no Gearoid. We know what he can do and will be huge for us later on in the year. It's other lads that need to put their hands up and no better day than today.
Strong defence (at least we hope so) named. You'd be expecting to see good tracking/tackling, clean sheet, fast transition and our forwards to ask serious questions of the Leitrim defence.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on January 30, 2022, 12:15:41 PM
Conditions are a bit worrying. They could be a good leveller. Great to be back going to league games though!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on January 30, 2022, 05:36:31 PM
A tough game today in extremely difficult conditions. We had to dig deep to get the win. Ray Galligan showed me what do I know with 5 frees, 4 into the wind in the 1st half. Paddy lynch hit 4 pts, 2 outrageous ones. That James Smith and faulkner very good. Thomas Galligan not at the races, looks unfit. Anyway without gerry Smith or gearoid and in those conditions any win was a good win.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: full moon on January 30, 2022, 05:43:27 PM
Same old story though with the forwards, Gearoid out and nobody stood up bar Lynch who scored a few. We seriously lack a goal threat. At this level we should be putting away goals or we're going to be in a scrap half the time.

On a positive note looking at other results, perhaps Leitrim are one of the better teams in this division. Poor results for Wexford, Tipp and Carlow. It's a low standard though so hard to read too much into it.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: full moon on January 30, 2022, 05:45:30 PM
Worth noting Antrim had another impressive result against Fermanagh comfortably beating them away from.

If anyone thinks that's an easy game in the Championship they are mistaken, they are an improved side under Enda McGinley and playing a higher level in Division 3 now.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Look-Up! on January 30, 2022, 06:05:29 PM
As the wee man says a won's a won. Nothing pretty about us but hard to be pretty in those conditions I suppose. Very modest return again up front which is a worry going forward. You'd hope when the ground dries up a bit and they get a consistent run in the team we'll see major improvements. 
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on January 30, 2022, 06:08:24 PM
Lynch's scores were excellent. Cormac Reillys workrate was impressive. Ray has a wand of a boot.
Can't read too much into it because of the weather.

Still think it will be ourselves and Sligo for promotion.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on January 30, 2022, 06:20:58 PM
Quote from: Westside on January 30, 2022, 06:08:24 PM
Lynch's scores were excellent. Cormac Reillys workrate was impressive. Ray has a wand of a boot.
Can't read too much into it because of the weather.

Still think it will be ourselves and Sligo for promotion.

You can breathe easy now westside that Leitrim have been put to the sword.

In fairness a 4 pt win on a day like that is like a 8 pt win on a good day
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dreadnought on January 31, 2022, 08:17:20 AM
As ye have said, a win is a win. Especially without Gearoid, and losing Gerry Smith just before throw in. That was a brutal day of weather, that wind swirled, and was hard to gauge, and sapped the energy out of lads. That pitch was in poor state too, and that added in to making the going tough, while Leitrim looked good and were well up for this derby - they'll get a nice few wins this year. We judged the 1st half well, playing into that wind. We wasted a lot of time to kill the clock, took a lot out of them, and picked off a few nice points. Galligan took a few frees to figure out that wind, but when he did he was fit to put over a few lovely ones. One free in particular looked well wide before making a sudden sharp turn and to glide inside the post. Great going.

It is a pity we didn't drive on the 2nd half, even if we did enough to win decently. We let them back in there in spurts, and they were level at one point 10 mins into the 2nd half before we pushed on. Had a goal chance when Conor Smith fisted over the bar. But that was it. We need to create more goal chances, especially in this division. It should be an opportunity we look at to get more goals so we get experience to certain lads as it's something we've been poor on. As someone said above, we'll be caught some day if we don't get ahead with goals and kill games.

Paddy Lynch looks to be the real deal. He's growing into himself, and gaining the confidence he needs. He scored some lovely points for those conditions yesterday. Hope he just keeps pushing on and becomes the scoring forward we need him to be. Cormac O'Reilly was busy and did well too. Jason McLoughlin, what can you say about him that hasn't been said already. Such energy, and always there to attack forward and be an option. There were some below par performances from some experienced heads too though. Some a little off fitness (that'll come) and some just made a few too many mistakes. The conditions didn't help, and the pitch was very heavy, but we still dropped a lot of balls, couldn't get the ball off the ground, poor passes, and ran into trouble a few times. Hopefully that's just the first day out in those conditions, and when we get back to Breffni next week we'll nudge it up again.

Anyway, overall good to see out that win with all taken into account. Even playing below par we had more than enough. Get a few more lads back next week and move on from there.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on January 31, 2022, 08:34:31 AM
I thought McLoughlin had a great first half but he had a nightmare marking O'Rourke in the second half. He made a few bad handling errors that coughed up the ball to Leitrim.

Gunner was excellent. That break he made at the end when Leitrim had us under pressure in our full back line was brilliant.

Management made a bad mistake leaving Cormac Reilly on the field so long. He had a yellow and was throwing himself around and tackling on the edge. It was blatantly obvious he was about to be sent off and should have been but the ref bottled the decision. He has that tendency and it needs to be watched because it could cost us one day.

Midfield was a worry, Leitrim got more clean ball than us and were quicker to the breaks. The wind made it very difficult so can't judge Smith and Galligan too harshly. Hopefully if we get better conditions next week they can impose themselves more.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dreadnought on January 31, 2022, 08:49:05 AM
Quote from: Westside on January 31, 2022, 08:34:31 AM
I thought McLoughlin had a great first half but he had a nightmare marking O'Rourke in the second half. He made a few bad handling errors that coughed up the ball to Leitrim.

Gunner was excellent. That break he made at the end when Leitrim had us under pressure in our full back line was brilliant.

Management made a bad mistake leaving Cormac Reilly on the field so long. He had a yellow and was throwing himself around and tackling on the edge. It was blatantly obvious he was about to be sent off and should have been but the ref bottled the decision. He has that tendency and it needs to be watched because it could cost us one day.

Midfield was a worry, Leitrim got more clean ball than us and were quicker to the breaks. The wind made it very difficult so can't judge Smith and Galligan too harshly. Hopefully if we get better conditions next week they can impose themselves more.

With respect, I think you're quite wrong there on Cormac O'Reilly. He was targeted a fair few times yesterday. And that was clearly a case of a man recognising that he's marking a man with a yellow, and he did everything he could to get him another yellow. He dragged him to the ground, and held him down on top of himself, making it look like they were tussling and that it was Cormac on top of him. You could see Cormac had his arms out, so it wasn't him who was grappling or tussling. It was trying to get the man sent off. The linesman didn't buy it, he told the ref exactly what happened, and it's why the Leitrim man got a yellow, and Cormac didn't. Was time to take him off at that stage though, no point leaving him on after that
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on January 31, 2022, 09:12:50 AM
He may have been targeted, but he was throwing himself into tackles and could easily have had a yellow card for persistent fouling. At one point during that incident when they hit the ground Cormac was on top of the Leitrim player pushing his head down. Most times the ref gives two yellows.

I'm not criticising Cormac, I was impressed with his performance and work rate. He nailed down his starting spot. I just thought it was poor management from Mickey.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on January 31, 2022, 09:23:34 AM
I think ye are both right! I think Cormac should have been pulled off as it was clear to me he was going to get a 2nd yellow at some point as he was tackling on the edge. However on the incident that Leitrim were going mad about, 99/100 both players get a yellow card so I can only presume that the linesman, who was talking furiously into his mic after the incident, must have seen exactly what happened and informed the ref accordingly. I was a bit diappointed in performances of Thomas Galligan and Killian Clarke who really didnt influence the game, two big athletic men who should stand out on a day like that. Walking along the stand side and looking out at the pitch after it looked like the old pitch up in Corlough back in the day (minus the hill) so I can only imagine what it was like to play on.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dreadnought on January 31, 2022, 09:38:20 AM
Quote from: Westside on January 31, 2022, 09:12:50 AM
He may have been targeted, but he was throwing himself into tackles and could easily have had a yellow card for persistent fouling. At one point during that incident when they hit the ground Cormac was on top of the Leitrim player pushing his head down. Most times the ref gives two yellows.

I'm not criticising Cormac, I was impressed with his performance and work rate. He nailed down his starting spot. I just thought it was poor management from Mickey.

That's the incident I'm on about. Your man pulled Cormac to the ground and held him down, trying to get him the yellow card. And like Itchy says, practically every time this happens, the ref gives 2 yellows and your man was hoping for that. He was targeted here, the Leitrim fella knew what he was doing, and the linesman saw the whole thing. I'm glad he did, as the 2 yellows things refs do always sides with the aggressor and the lad protecting himself gets a card too. He maybe was on the edge in other parts, but this was definitely not a yellow for him
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on January 31, 2022, 10:38:07 AM
Fair enough, I didn't see what happened up until they got to the ground. At that point Cormac was pushing down on the Leitrim player and usually that's a yellow even if the Leitrim player instigated it. You're right though, it shouldn't be and the two yellows is often a cop out.

Gearoid back next week should give us more of a scoring threat and hopefully Paddy Lynch can continue his good form. Conor Smith looked decent when he came on. It will be interesting to see if the green shoots can result in these lads seriously bothering the scoreboard on a day where weather isn't such a factor.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dreadnought on January 31, 2022, 11:10:24 AM
Quote from: Westside on January 31, 2022, 10:38:07 AM
Fair enough, I didn't see what happened up until they got to the ground. At that point Cormac was pushing down on the Leitrim player and usually that's a yellow even if the Leitrim player instigated it. You're right though, it shouldn't be and the two yellows is often a cop out.

Gearoid back next week should give us more of a scoring threat and hopefully Paddy Lynch can continue his good form. Conor Smith looked decent when he came on. It will be interesting to see if the green shoots can result in these lads seriously bothering the scoreboard on a day where weather isn't such a factor.

Aye it was right in front of me, he pulled him down on top of him to make it look like it wasn't him who started it.

Yeah fully agree. Get McKiernan back and our half forward line looks completely different. Might free Lynch up as he becomes an option off his shoulder. On a good field, and the weather looking ok for Sunday, we should see it being brought up another notch. Conor Smith looked very lively when brought on, and was very unlucky with that effort that hit the post. With a forward line of Smith, Lynch, and Cormac O'Reilly, it is looking good there if they can keep going and developing. Would love a game when they just open up, rack up a scoreline, and gain the confidence to keep moving
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on February 11, 2022, 10:56:38 AM
Jordan Morris transfer to Kingscourt gone through, we should be doing everything possible to get him playing for Cavan.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on February 11, 2022, 01:00:50 PM
I don't think he intends to play with Cavan anytime soon. But maybe a few years playing with Kingscourt and settled in Cavan club football he might consider it

Still no sign of the transfer on the Gaa club transfer site.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on February 14, 2022, 06:50:50 PM
The transfer is there now https://crokepark-my.sharepoint.com/personal/ruairi_harvey_gaa_ie/_layouts/15/guestaccess.aspx?guestaccesstoken=yG1wtQ5igmCD55PR7SVA%2FazBTTThyzf1m2OF1AqaTbA%3D&docid=04bc452cba06b4bfea0d1ed80a2b5fac6&rev=1&e=2pF9ad

Conor Bradley back with Ramor is a boost for them with  Sean McEvoy away in August.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on February 15, 2022, 08:58:40 AM
Quote from: Westside on February 11, 2022, 10:56:38 AM
Jordan Morris transfer to Kingscourt gone through, we should be doing everything possible to get him playing for Cavan.

I don't know, if he wants to play for Cavan he should be coming to the county team making enquiries. I don't think Cavan should be lowering themselves to poaching players currently playing with other counties.

Now if his father and grandfather before him were Cavan men and he feels an affinity to the Breffni Blue then I have no issue with him asking to play for us but no poaching please. Lets leave that to the likes of Kildare.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Cavan19 on February 15, 2022, 10:37:44 AM
Quote from: Itchy on February 15, 2022, 08:58:40 AM
Quote from: Westside on February 11, 2022, 10:56:38 AM
Jordan Morris transfer to Kingscourt gone through, we should be doing everything possible to get him playing for Cavan.

I don't know, if he wants to play for Cavan he should be coming to the county team making enquiries. I don't think Cavan should be lowering themselves to poaching players currently playing with other counties.

Now if his father and grandfather before him were Cavan men and he feels an affinity to the Breffni Blue then I have no issue with him asking to play for us but no poaching please. Lets leave that to the likes of Kildare.

It is not poaching asking a player who is eligible to play for the county if they have interest in playing, although in this case the respectable thing to do is let the lad decide himself.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on February 15, 2022, 04:24:24 PM
He wouldn't really be a blow in as he lived in Kingscourt when he was younger and went to school there. His father played Minor with Cavan

It will be interesting a few years down the line will he stay committed with Meath.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on February 15, 2022, 05:15:49 PM
Quote from: Itchy on February 15, 2022, 08:58:40 AM
Quote from: Westside on February 11, 2022, 10:56:38 AM
Jordan Morris transfer to Kingscourt gone through, we should be doing everything possible to get him playing for Cavan.

I don't know, if he wants to play for Cavan he should be coming to the county team making enquiries. I don't think Cavan should be lowering themselves to poaching players currently playing with other counties.

Now if his father and grandfather before him were Cavan men and he feels an affinity to the Breffni Blue then I have no issue with him asking to play for us but no poaching please. Lets leave that to the likes of Kildare.

I don't see the harm in management asking the question of him, the same as they would any club player in Cavan.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on March 05, 2022, 09:59:29 AM
U20s hammered by westmeath last night, the state of our underage setup should be at emergency levels in the county board. We have pissed away the great work done 10 years ago and as we look to the future when that crop retire in the coming years well that future is Div3 level. Really depressing as I thought back then we were on an upward trajectory.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on March 05, 2022, 03:36:01 PM
Quote from: Itchy on March 05, 2022, 09:59:29 AM
U20s hammered by westmeath last night, the state of our underage setup should be at emergency levels in the county board. We have pissed away the great work done 10 years ago and as we look to the future when that crop retire in the coming years well that future is Div3 level. Really depressing as I thought back then we were on an upward trajectory.

I'd really like to know where things went wrong. From 2008 to 2017 we produced lots of good minor and u21 players and teams, we were competive for the most part. Things fell off a cliff then and it's difficult to pick out anyone that might be capable of stepping up to senior level.

Did we start doing something different or just fail to evolve and other counties bypassed us?

Fully agree that the county board needs to get their hand around this issue to stop the rot.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Look-Up! on March 05, 2022, 06:37:13 PM
 It's difficult to know exactly what's changed. Only those in charge can answer that but it shouldn't be underestimated how good a job TH did while in there. He created an environment of hard work and application where no one was bigger than the team and everyone was given equal opportunity regardless of where they came from. He was very proactive in contacting clubs trying to get lads involved and he believed in having big all inclusive panels. Some would argue it was coincidence and he just got lucky with a good conveyor belt at the time but each to their own.

It's funny what success can do. I know forums might not necessarily reflect accurately the mood of a county but I do remember reading some posts from that time and the consensus among some was that "they were sick of the success of the U21s" and "the football was being coached out of our players" and they would far rather have average underage teams with a couple of "superstars" every year than workman like teams who go further but with limited forwards for future senior teams. Mind boggling stuff. I'm not suggesting this would be policy regarding coaching in our county setup but I do think we placed less emphasis in having well organised teams after those years and there was a belief that better forwards were coming through. I think budget wise too, didn't we cut the panel numbers down considerably? One thing I would add though, during the successful years I never heard complaints of lads walking away not being given a fair crack but the last few years it seems to be a complaint you hear more and more. 
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on March 08, 2022, 10:03:28 PM
Anyone hear D Donohoe on wearecavan, Jesus he was very downbeat and you would hold up much hope for them in the championship.

On another note with seniors going 4/4 I hope westside is starting to believe!!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Look-Up! on March 08, 2022, 11:53:52 PM
Very bad vibes all round regarding the U20's. Will take some turnaround to get any sort of run in championship.

As for the seniors, so far so good regarding points collected and a win this weekend should pretty much guarantee promotion. Without pulling up any trees we've been good enough for where we are but bigger tests await. Hopefully we get a few injured players back and improve a bit more before the Antrim match. Would be nice to go into championship with a settled team especially up front. My big concerns though would be lack of pace especially in attack and no reliable free taker.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on March 09, 2022, 04:06:54 PM
Yeah Donohoe very downbeat, hopefully he gets a response from the players.

I'm starting to believe! It's been difficult as I expected it to be, Carlow were within 2 points of us going down the stretch, Sligo were ahead with 10 minutes to go. I expect Tipp to be another tough game this weekend.

I wonder why Oisin Brady isn't getting more game time? Is he injured? I wasn't exactly impressed with his attitude any time I've seen him in the league but he looks like the most physically able young player on the panel.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dreadnought on March 11, 2022, 08:35:46 AM
Quote from: Look-Up! on March 08, 2022, 11:53:52 PM
Very bad vibes all round regarding the U20's. Will take some turnaround to get any sort of run in championship.

As for the seniors, so far so good regarding points collected and a win this weekend should pretty much guarantee promotion. Without pulling up any trees we've been good enough for where we are but bigger tests await. Hopefully we get a few injured players back and improve a bit more before the Antrim match. Would be nice to go into championship with a settled team especially up front. My big concerns though would be lack of pace especially in attack and no reliable free taker.

I wouldn't be so sure here. We've been fine on free takers. McKiernan off the left foot, and Lynch off the right. Galligan takes anything long range. I think our accuracy has been just fine considering some of the conditions we've played in. We've missed some frees but when kicking in strong swirling winds. On the calmer days we've been very good on frees. We should be in a just fine here come Championship on this. Far better than we've been in other years at least...
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on March 11, 2022, 10:33:38 AM
I see there was a vote at Ulster council to tell Antrim Corrigan Park wasnt sufficient to host the 1st round of Ulster. Antrim, Derry and Tyrone voted against the motion and the other 6 counties including us (we seem to have put up the motion) voted for. I'd have mixed feelings about this, I dont like sneaky shit like this to get an advantage but at the same time Antrim should look at themselves too. They have multiples of our population and have allowed their county ground to be left in ruin. I dont think we need to worry overly about where we play them as we are a better team than Antrim and should be able to beat them anywhere but I dont think any county would be allowed play a championship game in a ground in Ulster with less than 5k capacity either.

This could easily backfire, Antrim will use it as siege mentality to fire themselves up for it. Where would it likely be now. I bet they pick somewhere awkward like Derry - wouldn't blame them either.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on March 11, 2022, 12:02:20 PM
I don't think Cavan give too much of a shit about where this game is played. Its about money and supporters being able to attend the game.

It's the responsibility of each county to make sure they have grounds capable of hosting games in the competitions they enter. If you don't have that, you don't get your home games simple as that.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dreadnought on March 11, 2022, 12:36:34 PM
Antrim home game against Tyrone in 2019 went to Armagh. Simply put Corrigan park isn't big enough at 2600 capacity. That's hard luck on Antrim with Casement being out for now. But what can be done like? It's too small and Cavan would bring a large support, many will miss out. Makes sense to move. I suppose the manner of what they've done is what leaves some with a bad taste though. Unless they discussed directly with Antrim but got nowhere. Vote passed 6 to 3 anyway, so it's now a moot point. Likely will got to Armagh again. A decent hunting ground for us recently in Championship...
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on March 11, 2022, 01:20:05 PM
Quote from: Westside on March 11, 2022, 12:02:20 PM
I don't think Cavan give too much of a shit about where this game is played. Its about money and supporters being able to attend the game.

It's the responsibility of each county to make sure they have grounds capable of hosting games in the competitions they enter. If you don't have that, you don't get your home games simple as that.

Why did we propose it at a vote then. Surely the Ulster Council has the power to make calls like this without a county having to put up a vote. Its a bit of a shitty act I think myself and I would prefer if we let the Ulster Council do their job and make decisions like this rather than us putting up motions.

I dont know about county the size of Antrim, how do they get themselves into such a mess with their county ground. They had one of the nicest pitches and venues in the Province and now its a ruin.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on March 11, 2022, 01:59:20 PM
Quote from: Itchy on March 11, 2022, 01:20:05 PM
Quote from: Westside on March 11, 2022, 12:02:20 PM
I don't think Cavan give too much of a shit about where this game is played. Its about money and supporters being able to attend the game.

It's the responsibility of each county to make sure they have grounds capable of hosting games in the competitions they enter. If you don't have that, you don't get your home games simple as that.

Why did we propose it at a vote then. Surely the Ulster Council has the power to make calls like this without a county having to put up a vote. Its a bit of a shitty act I think myself and I would prefer if we let the Ulster Council do their job and make decisions like this rather than us putting up motions.

I dont know about county the size of Antrim, how do they get themselves into such a mess with their county ground. They had one of the nicest pitches and venues in the Province and now its a ruin.

I mean from a footballing point of view. There's a narrative now that this is a tactical move by Cavan to increase our chances of winning the game. I don't think that's the case. I think the reasons for wanting the game moved is primarily motivated by a desire to accommodate every supporter who wants to attend.

You're right though, surely there should be minimum capacity for Ulster Championship games and it should be the responsibilith of Ulster Council to ensure compliance. I don't think Cavan are being hypocritical. We gave up home advantage against Tyrone a few years back when Breffni was out of action.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: NatSoSaff on March 11, 2022, 05:14:24 PM
Quote from: Itchy on March 11, 2022, 01:20:05 PM
Quote from: Westside on March 11, 2022, 12:02:20 PM
I don't think Cavan give too much of a shit about where this game is played. Its about money and supporters being able to attend the game.

It's the responsibility of each county to make sure they have grounds capable of hosting games in the competitions they enter. If you don't have that, you don't get your home games simple as that.

Why did we propose it at a vote then. Surely the Ulster Council has the power to make calls like this without a county having to put up a vote. Its a bit of a shitty act I think myself and I would prefer if we let the Ulster Council do their job and make decisions like this rather than us putting up motions.

I don't know about county the size of Antrim, how do they get themselves into such a mess with their county ground. They had one of the nicest pitches and venues in the Province and now its a ruin.

God almighty Itchy, at least do some basic research before mouthing off about stuff you clearly know little about. Antrim were lead by the nose by Ulster Council into this disastrous Casement Park project (managed by Ulster Council), that ultimately went to sh*% as due diligence was not carried out (residence backing, health & safety angles covered etc etc). There's alot more to it that as well of course, but to call Antrim out for 'getting themselves into such a mess' is compltely ignorant and misleading.
Anyway, we'll see you lads in Corrigan in a few weeks time when we can have a laugh about all this  ;D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on March 11, 2022, 05:31:06 PM
Quote from: NatSoSaff on March 11, 2022, 05:14:24 PM
Quote from: Itchy on March 11, 2022, 01:20:05 PM
Quote from: Westside on March 11, 2022, 12:02:20 PM
I don't think Cavan give too much of a shit about where this game is played. Its about money and supporters being able to attend the game.

It's the responsibility of each county to make sure they have grounds capable of hosting games in the competitions they enter. If you don't have that, you don't get your home games simple as that.

Why did we propose it at a vote then. Surely the Ulster Council has the power to make calls like this without a county having to put up a vote. Its a bit of a shitty act I think myself and I would prefer if we let the Ulster Council do their job and make decisions like this rather than us putting up motions.

I don't know about county the size of Antrim, how do they get themselves into such a mess with their county ground. They had one of the nicest pitches and venues in the Province and now its a ruin.

God almighty Itchy, at least do some basic research before mouthing off about stuff you clearly know little about. Antrim were lead by the nose by Ulster Council into this disastrous Casement Park project (managed by Ulster Council), that ultimately went to sh*% as due diligence was not carried out (residence backing, health & safety angles covered etc etc). There's alot more to it that as well of course, but to call Antrim out for 'getting themselves into such a mess' is compltely ignorant and misleading.
Anyway, we'll see you lads in Corrigan in a few weeks time when we can have a laugh about all this  ;D

Who owns Casement Park. Antrim GAA or Ulster GAA?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: NatSoSaff on March 11, 2022, 06:23:03 PM
That's your counter argument?  ;D. Good luck lol
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on March 11, 2022, 06:52:30 PM
Quote from: NatSoSaff on March 11, 2022, 06:23:03 PM
That's your counter argument?  ;D. Good luck lol

No lad, your grounds your responsibility. If you let a bunch of clowns come in and wreck it then that's on Antrim GAA. There is a serious chip on the shoulder up in Antrim, everyone is out to get ye. Biggest population, biggest city and nothing but whinging out of yis. Antrim should be consistently in Div1 and Div2.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on March 11, 2022, 08:37:54 PM
Quote from: NatSoSaff on March 11, 2022, 05:14:24 PM
Quote from: Itchy on March 11, 2022, 01:20:05 PM
Quote from: Westside on March 11, 2022, 12:02:20 PM
I don't think Cavan give too much of a shit about where this game is played. Its about money and supporters being able to attend the game.

It's the responsibility of each county to make sure they have grounds capable of hosting games in the competitions they enter. If you don't have that, you don't get your home games simple as that.

Why did we propose it at a vote then. Surely the Ulster Council has the power to make calls like this without a county having to put up a vote. Its a bit of a shitty act I think myself and I would prefer if we let the Ulster Council do their job and make decisions like this rather than us putting up motions.

I don't know about county the size of Antrim, how do they get themselves into such a mess with their county ground. They had one of the nicest pitches and venues in the Province and now its a ruin.

God almighty Itchy, at least do some basic research before mouthing off about stuff you clearly know little about. Antrim were lead by the nose by Ulster Council into this disastrous Casement Park project (managed by Ulster Council), that ultimately went to sh*% as due diligence was not carried out (residence backing, health & safety angles covered etc etc). There's alot more to it that as well of course, but to call Antrim out for 'getting themselves into such a mess' is compltely ignorant and misleading.
Anyway, we'll see you lads in Corrigan in a few weeks time when we can have a laugh about all this  ;D

Offering to host a game with a capacity of about 3 thousand for a game like this is a joke. Cavan could see that, as could nearly every other county in Ulster. Whether that's Antrim's fault or the Ulster Council's fault is irrelevant.

We played Tyrone and Down in 2018 when we were doing up the pitch in Breffni, games were played in Brewster. We didn't offer Kingscourt because it's not big enough. You play the game in a suitable venue or you don't play it.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: NatSoSaff on March 11, 2022, 10:27:50 PM
Quote from: Westside on March 11, 2022, 08:37:54 PM
Quote from: NatSoSaff on March 11, 2022, 05:14:24 PM
Quote from: Itchy on March 11, 2022, 01:20:05 PM
Quote from: Westside on March 11, 2022, 12:02:20 PM
I don't think Cavan give too much of a shit about where this game is played. Its about money and supporters being able to attend the game.

It's the responsibility of each county to make sure they have grounds capable of hosting games in the competitions they enter. If you don't have that, you don't get your home games simple as that.


Why did we propose it at a vote then. Surely the Ulster Council has the power to make calls like this without a county having to put up a vote. Its a bit of a shitty act I think myself and I would prefer if we let the Ulster Council do their job and make decisions like this rather than us putting up motions.

I don't know about county the size of Antrim, how do they get themselves into such a mess with their county ground. They had one of the nicest pitches and venues in the Province and now its a ruin.

God almighty Itchy, at least do some basic research before mouthing off about stuff you clearly know little about. Antrim were lead by the nose by Ulster Council into this disastrous Casement Park project (managed by Ulster Council), that ultimately went to sh*% as due diligence was not carried out (residence backing, health & safety angles covered etc etc). There's alot more to it that as well of course, but to call Antrim out for 'getting themselves into such a mess' is compltely ignorant and misleading.
Anyway, we'll see you lads in Corrigan in a few weeks time when we can have a laugh about all this  ;D

Offering to host a game with a capacity of about 3 thousand for a game like this is a joke. Cavan could see that, as could nearly every other county in Ulster. Whether that's Antrim's fault or the Ulster Council's fault is irrelevant.

We played Tyrone and Down in 2018 when we were doing up the pitch in Breffni, games were played in Brewster. We didn't offer Kingscourt because it's not big enough. You play the game in a suitable venue or you don't play it.

What is suitable standards west side? Corrigan is safe, clean, comfortable
Covered stand, there is parking, a large club bar,  decent enough access. Why is that not enough?

Out of interest, what is your support averaging attendance wise in division 4 games these days?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on March 11, 2022, 10:48:49 PM
Quote from: NatSoSaff on March 11, 2022, 10:27:50 PM
Quote from: Westside on March 11, 2022, 08:37:54 PM
Quote from: NatSoSaff on March 11, 2022, 05:14:24 PM
Quote from: Itchy on March 11, 2022, 01:20:05 PM
Quote from: Westside on March 11, 2022, 12:02:20 PM
I don't think Cavan give too much of a shit about where this game is played. Its about money and supporters being able to attend the game.

It's the responsibility of each county to make sure they have grounds capable of hosting games in the competitions they enter. If you don't have that, you don't get your home games simple as that.


Why did we propose it at a vote then. Surely the Ulster Council has the power to make calls like this without a county having to put up a vote. Its a bit of a shitty act I think myself and I would prefer if we let the Ulster Council do their job and make decisions like this rather than us putting up motions.

I don't know about county the size of Antrim, how do they get themselves into such a mess with their county ground. They had one of the nicest pitches and venues in the Province and now its a ruin.

God almighty Itchy, at least do some basic research before mouthing off about stuff you clearly know little about. Antrim were lead by the nose by Ulster Council into this disastrous Casement Park project (managed by Ulster Council), that ultimately went to sh*% as due diligence was not carried out (residence backing, health & safety angles covered etc etc). There's alot more to it that as well of course, but to call Antrim out for 'getting themselves into such a mess' is compltely ignorant and misleading.
Anyway, we'll see you lads in Corrigan in a few weeks time when we can have a laugh about all this  ;D

Offering to host a game with a capacity of about 3 thousand for a game like this is a joke. Cavan could see that, as could nearly every other county in Ulster. Whether that's Antrim's fault or the Ulster Council's fault is irrelevant.

We played Tyrone and Down in 2018 when we were doing up the pitch in Breffni, games were played in Brewster. We didn't offer Kingscourt because it's not big enough. You play the game in a suitable venue or you don't play it.

What is suitable standards west side? Corrigan is safe, clean, comfortable
Covered stand, there is parking, a large club bar,  decent enough access. Why is that not enough?

Out of interest, what is your support averaging attendance wise in division 4 games these days?

This is our 1st year ever in division 4, I'm sure Antrim of years of data built up on attendances in the division. But of course Div4 isn't ulster championship is it?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on March 11, 2022, 11:03:31 PM
Capacity is obviously the main issue, you're talking about locking out a huge number of supporters. In 2019 after 3 years without winning an Ulster Championship game there were around 14,000 people in Breffni for the Monaghan game. If nobody from Antrim went to this game, Cavan supporters alone would easily fill Corrigan Park. We're not talking about a full game here where a few people will miss out, it will number probably into the thousands.

Cavan have been consistent on this long before this debacle, you play your games at a venue that can handle the crowd expected to attend. If you can't do that you go to another venue that can.

At this stage, any outcome is good for Antrim. There's a chip on their shoulder if it's played elsewhere, and if they push and get Corrigan Park that's a win too. Cavan are the bad guys. Also what's the notion that Cavan pulled some sort of stroke here? Was it the short notice or lack of communication before the motion was made?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: NatSoSaff on March 12, 2022, 09:21:48 AM
Westside you are still only spouting your own waffle and opinion on 'suitability'. Zero facts. There is no rule or statement of fact re minimum capacity which antrim are falling short of here. Antrim can accommodate over 3500 and that's ok by the book. It's pretty simple really. Cavan don't get to dictate where and what size of ground their support deem acceptable to attend. Has this snobbery always been there with you folk? Or is it just since you won a nothing Ulster championship when nobody really cared as covid was riddling the planet?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on March 12, 2022, 09:28:24 AM
Quote from: NatSoSaff on March 12, 2022, 09:21:48 AM
Westside you are still only spouting your own waffle and opinion on 'suitability'. Zero facts. There is no rule or statement of fact re minimum capacity which antrim are falling short of here. Antrim can accommodate over 3500 and that's ok by the book. It's pretty simple really. Cavan don't get to dictate where and what size of ground their support deem acceptable to attend. Has this snobbery always been there with you folk? Or is it just since you won a nothing Ulster championship when nobody really cared as covid was riddling the planet?

Is that Antrims excuse for not performing in any ulster championship despite having a population almost 10x cavans. Give your mammy back her phone like a good wee man.

Is
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on March 12, 2022, 09:44:48 AM
Quote from: NatSoSaff on March 12, 2022, 09:21:48 AM
Westside you are still only spouting your own waffle and opinion on 'suitability'. Zero facts. There is no rule or statement of fact re minimum capacity which antrim are falling short of here. Antrim can accommodate over 3500 and that's ok by the book. It's pretty simple really. Cavan don't get to dictate where and what size of ground their support deem acceptable to attend. Has this snobbery always been there with you folk? Or is it just since you won a nothing Ulster championship when nobody really cared as covid was riddling the planet?

It's not just my opinion. It's the opinion of my county board and the county boards of Fermanagh Monaghan Down and Donegal.

If you're keen on facts and not opinions then here's one for you: The county boards can vote to move a game if they agree a venue isn't suitable and they have done so.

Ulster Championship is a serious business, Antrim have done the equivalent of arriving to a game with a size 4 O'Neills, blamed the bigger boys for taking their size 5 and then thrown the toys out of the pram when they weren't allowed to play with it.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: NatSoSaff on March 13, 2022, 09:40:21 PM
"The bigger boys" ??!! How did yous get on in division 4 today lads?  ;D ;D :-X
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on March 14, 2022, 08:12:28 AM
Quote from: NatSoSaff on March 13, 2022, 09:40:21 PM
"The bigger boys" ??!! How did yous get on in division 4 today lads?  ;D ;D :-X

Did the Ulster Council lose a division 4 game or did you not understand my metaphor?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on March 14, 2022, 08:19:43 AM
That was as poor a half of football from Cavan I have seen in a long time. Absolutely clueless stuff. I dont know where to start except to say there seems to be  no clue what we are doing when we have the ball and are faced with a mass defence. I can only imagine what Tyrone would do to us. The worrying thing is our performances are getting worse, not better - we were playing for 15/20 mins in our previous games and that is down to 5 minutes now. I really wonder what is going on in that camp.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on March 14, 2022, 01:52:18 PM
I saw McKenna from Laragh tweak his hamstring in the warm up. Felt bad for the lad you could see how devastated he was from up in the stands. He must have been in line for an appearance. Hopefully his time will come.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on March 16, 2022, 10:08:24 PM
Championship game back in Corrigan Park. Might stop Antrim ones whinging but a lot of people are going to miss out on that game.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: NatSoSaff on March 17, 2022, 02:13:37 PM
Make your mind up fella, thought you wanted it in corrigan?

I'm glad sense and decency has prevailed. Looking forward to a good contest, hope you're right and you do bring your full allocation to the game. a packed corrigan will be a great atmosphere despite the small capacity trust me.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on March 21, 2022, 08:23:11 AM
Will we manage to keep Waterford to a 5 point win or less to sneak promotion?...
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on March 21, 2022, 09:43:50 AM
Quote from: Westside on March 21, 2022, 08:23:11 AM
Will we manage to keep Waterford to a 5 point win or less to sneak promotion?...

The way we are playing you wouldnt know. Waterford were barely pipped at the post yesterday by Sligo who at that stage were playing with 15 men to Waterfords 11! Was anyone at the game for their sins?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dreadnought on March 21, 2022, 11:17:38 AM
Quote from: Itchy on March 21, 2022, 09:43:50 AM
Quote from: Westside on March 21, 2022, 08:23:11 AM
Will we manage to keep Waterford to a 5 point win or less to sneak promotion?...

The way we are playing you wouldnt know. Waterford were barely pipped at the post yesterday by Sligo who at that stage were playing with 15 men to Waterfords 11! Was anyone at the game for their sins?

The game in London? Yeah I was at it. Huge Cavan support there, and a lovely day for a game too. Some setup London have, it's a lovely ground, clubhouse, and stand. Mad the way the game went. We were far better than them for most of the game, up 8 points at one point, and up again by 6 or 7 in the 2nd half. We played some great football, but just switched off near the end and nearly got caught. Had the buffer when they got the goal, but jeez not sure what they were at up to that. Should have been long out of sight.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on March 21, 2022, 08:23:42 PM
It was bizzare. The game fully felt over, people had started to leave and London scored 1-2.
Cavan badly need to allow the players to express themselves a bit more and not be content to just manage the games.

I sincerely hope the league final (surely we'll get there) will be treated like a championship game
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dreadnought on March 22, 2022, 11:00:05 AM
Cavan Waterford game now at 6pm Saturday. Odd they've different times for all 4 games in the Division. Hard on Waterford supporters travelling the length of the country after the game
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: skeog on March 22, 2022, 02:04:03 PM
All 6 of them would say.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dreadnought on March 28, 2022, 10:57:09 AM
So it's Sayonara to Division 4, and no loss. Let's never go back there and pretend it was a bad dream. Good result Saturday, even allowing for how bad Waterford are (and a lot of scores we missed too). Maybe we're timing our run better in this, and aiming for a final and Antrim. Really should be in a position to win this final on Saturday. A bit of payback to Tipp, and also a chance to win a final between two provincial winners from a few years ago. And also for us to snap this league final losing streak, and lift a cup at Croker for the first time in ages. Get a win, and have a break while we build up to Antrim is where we want to be at. This is the time to be peaking and on an upward curve.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on March 28, 2022, 07:01:54 PM
Not an enjoyable campaign, up to last Saturday at least. Hopefully we see a good positive performance in Croker and two good performances back to back will be a good tonic going into the Championship.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dreadnought on March 29, 2022, 08:15:41 AM
Quote from: Westside on March 28, 2022, 07:01:54 PM
Not an enjoyable campaign, up to last Saturday at least. Hopefully we see a good positive performance in Croker and two good performances back to back will be a good tonic going into the Championship.

Yeah it wasn't really enjoyable (any Cavan game rarely is - we've never won until the final whistle). Some games were comfortable, some were not, some were frustrating. We did however get a chance to try out a few younger players, and different ways of playing and such. Like we won some of these games by playing for a sum total of 10 minutes (Sligo) while then being very poor for the rest. It shows how better we were than that division. I'm ok with us not blowing teams away, as long as we sealed promotion. And I'd rather we're right for the final and Championship rather than flying back in February. Here's hoping that we're peaking at the right time
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dreadnought on March 29, 2022, 08:18:48 AM
Saw a post on Facebook (so take with a pinch of salt), but the page is run by Martin Tynan and he's usually clued up. He's saying Marty Reilly, Ciaran Holla Brady, and Conor Brady are back near fitness and will be back from Antrim, but not this weekend. Also that Oisin Kiernan has a terrible hamstring injury, he tore it off the bone. I remember some rugby players got that, and it's a good while out. He's a massive loss for us.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on March 29, 2022, 09:59:54 AM
Yeah getting up was the main goal. It was never going to be easy and the weaker teams were always going to be make things difficult. I'd much rather stumble through the league and start playing well now than hammer teams in the first couple of rounds and plateau in March.

I saw Oisin Kiernan at the Waterford match and he looked to be walking and moving fine which I don't think would be the case if the hamstring came off the bone. Fingers crossed that's not what happened him because that's a career threatening injury.

Holla and Martin would be excellent additions but how fit or match sharp can they be? Difficult to ask them to jump straight into Ulster Championship after little to no football for 12 months.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dreadnought on March 29, 2022, 10:11:24 AM
Quote from: Westside on March 29, 2022, 09:59:54 AM
Yeah getting up was the main goal. It was never going to be easy and the weaker teams were always going to be make things difficult. I'd much rather stumble through the league and start playing well now than hammer teams in the first couple of rounds and plateau in March.

I saw Oisin Kiernan at the Waterford match and he looked to be walking and moving fine which I don't think would be the case if the hamstring came off the bone. Fingers crossed that's not what happened him because that's a career threatening injury.

Holla and Martin would be excellent additions but how fit or match sharp can they be? Difficult to ask them to jump straight into Ulster Championship after little to no football for 12 months.

Fully agree with your first line. That's exactly where we need to be, promoted but far more scope for improving and peaking.

I saw Kiernan too. I was sitting right behind the team. I thought he was moving well too, so we will take that with a pinch of salt alright. Either way, a hamstring injury of any sorts will leave him tight for Antrim in 3 weeks time.

Holla was also in the stand, although not with the team. Would be a huge turnaround for him and he'd have no match fitness. Marty would be ok as we know he could come straight back in with his profile, and he has played this season too.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dreadnought on April 01, 2022, 02:33:24 PM
Best of luck to the U20s tonight v Monaghan, and to the Seniors tomorrow v Tipp. It'll be tough for the U20s with this Monaghan team being Ulster winners at minor 3 years ago. We were close to them a few weeks back in the League, so who knows. Should be winning this final tomorrow, and hopefully set us up for a tilt at Ulster. I'd take any win and lifting a trophy at Croker at this stage. Here's hoping to a good weekend for Cavan football.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dreadnought on April 01, 2022, 09:07:48 PM
U20s flying tonight. Up 1-8 to 0-1 early in the 2nd half. Keep it up lads
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dreadnought on April 01, 2022, 09:46:28 PM
Ah brilliant win by the U20s. That's a bit of a statement. First half had them cruising, and then held them at arms length. Monaghan seemed to fall apart at the end with black and red cards. Any day we beat our dear neighbours is a great day. Well done lads!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on April 01, 2022, 10:06:58 PM
What a win. Wasn't expecting that. Few excellent individual performances but overall a lot of honest hard work from Cavan was the foundation for that win. Cian Reilly showed why he's a county senior. Thought we were noticeably more physical and athletic around the field than last year which really stood to us.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on April 01, 2022, 10:44:50 PM
Well done to the u20s who have taken some serious stick, especially Damien Donohoe. It was an error ridden game but cavan were head and shoulders ahead of monaghan. Some big men around the middle and seemed to be able to make space in attack while totally frustrating monaghan at the other end. A win at this grade was so badly needed so fair play to all involved.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on April 01, 2022, 10:53:39 PM
Quote from: Itchy on April 01, 2022, 10:44:50 PM
Well done to the u20s who have taken some serious stick, especially Damien Donohoe. It was an error ridden game but cavan were head and shoulders ahead of monaghan. Some big men around the middle and seemed to be able to make space in attack while totally frustrating monaghan at the other end. A win at this grade was so badly needed so fair play to all involved.

Donohoe took a huge amount of stick. Delighted for him, and there's no doubt after that performance that he has the dressing room.

Monaghan were awful though, and we had a huge amount of very sloppy play that Monaghan just failed to punish. Perhaps the conditions contributed to those handling errors and passes that behind the man etc.

If Lovett can be utilised correctly he could tear teams to shreds. His ability to get away from his man is excellent, you can't coach that burst of pace. Tiarnan Madden is a quality footballer too.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on April 02, 2022, 06:28:38 PM
Good to get the win. Some flashes of good play but a sloppy performance overall. Gearoid's form is worrying. Great to see Lynch finish off the league with such a good performance. Took his goal very well.

Which Cavan player threw the ball to give away the free at the end?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dreadnought on April 02, 2022, 07:26:33 PM
Quote from: Westside on April 02, 2022, 06:28:38 PM
Good to get the win. Some flashes of good play but a sloppy performance overall. Gearoid's form is worrying. Great to see Lynch finish off the league with such a good performance. Took his goal very well.

Which Cavan player threw the ball to give away the free at the end?

Indeed, good to get the win. Another game where we won by plating for 15 mins. Good to get a cup and get over a team who gave us bother before. We learned enough from the group game, and the goals kept us in front when needed. Not sure on McKiernan. He's been good this league, but both times he was poor was against Tipp. They seem to have the measure of him, and can keep him quiet. Lynch is looking the forward player we so badly need, 2-3 a great return for him today.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on April 02, 2022, 10:16:31 PM
                                                                                                                                                                                                                             There was some poor handling and passing from both teams on occasions.  Cavan took the goal chances which was the difference. Tipperary had a few goal chances, the one at the end was their best chance. Good performance by Lynch. Mark Russell kicked some excellent scores for Tipperary.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dreadnought on April 02, 2022, 10:31:56 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on April 02, 2022, 10:16:31 PM
                                                                                                                                                                                                                             There was some poor handling and passing from both teams on occasions.  Cavan took the goal chances which was the difference. Tipperary had a few goal chances, the one at the end was their best chance. Good performance by Lynch. Mark Russell kicked some excellent scores for Tipperary.

Russell hit 4 outrageous points to be fair, the 3 in the first half especially. Though we gave him the freedom of the field for those. He was part of the reason they kept in touch, was some performance and he looked like he was going on one leg
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dreadnought on April 08, 2022, 09:55:58 AM
St. Pats had a good result winning the Oisin McGrath Cup (U15.5, formerly the Brock Cup) yesterday. Good to see Pats winning as they always do add to our underage structure here. Fair play lads.

The U20s are out tonight vs Derry in Armagh. Hope they keep the momentum from last week going and push on with a win. For those not going, TG4 are streaming it for free on YouTube youtu.be/qePubr_ymq0 (http://youtu.be/qePubr_ymq0)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on April 08, 2022, 10:00:10 AM
The U20s are 2/1 underdogs for tonight. Will be interesting to see how they fare against Derry who have been extremely strong at underage in recent years. If they can back up the Monaghan performance they won't be far off. Derry won't leave us those 1 on 1s in attack and I'd be surprised if we got anywhere near the amount of refereeing decisions we did last week.

Haven't seen a report on the McGrath cup game. Any stand out players? Is Rannafast the next level for that team?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dreadnought on April 08, 2022, 11:54:58 AM
Quote from: Westside on April 08, 2022, 10:00:10 AM
The U20s are 2/1 underdogs for tonight. Will be interesting to see how they fare against Derry who have been extremely strong at underage in recent years. If they can back up the Monaghan performance they won't be far off. Derry won't leave us those 1 on 1s in attack and I'd be surprised if we got anywhere near the amount of refereeing decisions we did last week.

Haven't seen a report on the McGrath cup game. Any stand out players? Is Rannafast the next level for that team?

I haven't seen any reports on it either, just followed score reports on twitter. Wasn't any scorers named, so don't know. I see the WeAreCavan podcast has a pod just up with a review, so might listen later and see what they say. Hopefully they've a better idea
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on April 08, 2022, 11:00:07 PM
Outstanding win for the U20s. Their work rare was off the charts. Brilliant to see they never even considered slowing the game down when we were a couple of points up in injury time, they pushed on. The take by O'Rourke at the end in the full back line was class.

Donohoe has done some job with them considering they are without what you would consider to be two of their best players in McEvoy and McGovern and we haven't won a game in the minor championship in the last 3 years.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on April 09, 2022, 08:34:15 AM
Brilliant win. What a nice bonus to see this team make an Ulster final when there was no expectation of them.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dreadnought on April 09, 2022, 10:03:25 AM
Quote from: Westside on April 08, 2022, 11:00:07 PM
Outstanding win for the U20s. Their work rare was off the charts. Brilliant to see they never even considered slowing the game down when we were a couple of points up in injury time, they pushed on. The take by O'Rourke at the end in the full back line was class.

Donohoe has done some job with them considering they are without what you would consider to be two of their best players in McEvoy and McGovern and we haven't won a game in the minor championship in the last 3 years.

Missing Ryan Brady as well, 3 big players for them, and a few others too. Was a brilliant win. Fair play to them, they battled and dug deep to see that off at the end. Great watching Cavan teams like that
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on April 09, 2022, 10:26:02 AM
I think Donohoe will have some tough calls to make before the final. There are a couple of starters who were below par last night. With the subs having done so well, one or two could force their way into the team.

A few people on the main thread saying how defensive it was. I personally didn't think it was too bad. There were a few times where Cavan were moving the ball around a defensive screen for a long period but overall I thought both sides showed decent attacking intent.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on April 09, 2022, 01:40:05 PM
Good win. Cian Reilly was impressive in defence. 

Mattie McGleenan's son is one of the key players for Tyrone and Dara Canavans brother Ruari.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on April 12, 2022, 07:04:45 PM
Interesting to hear Damien Donohoe say that Caoimhin McGovern played for his club at the weekend and could be in  the frame for the U20s. It would be great to see him make the squad.

What's Matthew McGahern like? Don't think I've seen him play but sounds like he would be a central figure on that team if he was fit.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: gortnaleck on April 13, 2022, 12:47:21 AM
Great to hear that young Mc Govern is  back playing,hope he is able to get some minutes
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on April 13, 2022, 10:02:45 AM
Quote from: rodney trotter on April 09, 2022, 01:40:05 PM
Good win. Cian Reilly was impressive in defence. 

Mattie McGleenan's son is one of the key players for Tyrone and Dara Canavans brother Ruari.

I hear he is absolutely fabulous ;)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on April 13, 2022, 11:39:09 AM
Quote from: Itchy on April 13, 2022, 10:02:45 AM
Quote from: rodney trotter on April 09, 2022, 01:40:05 PM
Good win. Cian Reilly was impressive in defence. 

Mattie McGleenan's son is one of the key players for Tyrone and Dara Canavans brother Ruari.

I hear he is absolutely fabulous ;)

Is this the same son who came up with the idea of moving McVeety to full forward?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dreadnought on April 13, 2022, 11:54:18 AM
Quote from: Westside on April 12, 2022, 07:04:45 PM
Interesting to hear Damien Donohoe say that Caoimhin McGovern played for his club at the weekend and could be in  the frame for the U20s. It would be great to see him make the squad.

What's Matthew McGahern like? Don't think I've seen him play but sounds like he would be a central figure on that team if he was fit.

Good player, seems to have a overall wide skillset. He's 6'5 or 6'6, lads that size don't come about that often. Good ball handling, rangy running. Fit to score points, and take a free too. Could be an option to catch and score a mark if used that way in the forwards. Probably needs a bit more strength built up for a fella that size, but that'll come with his age. I think he's a good prospect
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dreadnought on April 13, 2022, 01:26:48 PM
Quote from: clubman21 on April 13, 2022, 12:43:19 PM
Quote from: Dreadnought on April 13, 2022, 11:54:18 AM
Quote from: Westside on April 12, 2022, 07:04:45 PM
Interesting to hear Damien Donohoe say that Caoimhin McGovern played for his club at the weekend and could be in  the frame for the U20s. It would be great to see him make the squad.

What's Matthew McGahern like? Don't think I've seen him play but sounds like he would be a central figure on that team if he was fit.

Good player, seems to have a overall wide skillset. He's 6'5 or 6'6, lads that size don't come about that often. Good ball handling, rangy running. Fit to score points, and take a free too. Could be an option to catch and score a mark if used that way in the forwards. Probably needs a bit more strength built up for a fella that size, but that'll come with his age. I think he's a good prospect
Strength? The lad must weigh north off 15 stone, not meant in a bad way I must state. Serious operator

Ah he would be, but even tall fellas weigh heavy but need to bulk in the right places. That comes a bit with moving past 20, I'm more on about for when he comes out of underage grade for Cavan.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on April 13, 2022, 01:30:01 PM
He'll find it difficult to break onto the team at this stage. Donohoe went for lots of size and power off the bench last week, sounds like he'd add to that. It's a strong squad. I dont think there's any superstars but lots of lads with a good skill level and an excellent work ethic.

We need to be a bit more solid when we are coming out with possession.  At least twice in the last two games we have given away possession with untidy passes in our own half back line.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Cavan19 on April 13, 2022, 01:45:17 PM
Quote from: Westside on April 13, 2022, 01:30:01 PM
He'll find it difficult to break onto the team at this stage. Donohoe went for lots of size and power off the bench last week, sounds like he'd add to that. It's a strong squad. I dont think there's any superstars but lots of lads with a good skill level and an excellent work ethic.

We need to be a bit more solid when we are coming out with possession.  At least twice in the last two games we have given away possession with untidy passes in our own half back line.

There isn't a hope that he will even be on the panel next week lads.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on April 13, 2022, 02:12:37 PM
Quote from: Cavan19 on April 13, 2022, 01:45:17 PM
Quote from: Westside on April 13, 2022, 01:30:01 PM
He'll find it difficult to break onto the team at this stage. Donohoe went for lots of size and power off the bench last week, sounds like he'd add to that. It's a strong squad. I dont think there's any superstars but lots of lads with a good skill level and an excellent work ethic.

We need to be a bit more solid when we are coming out with possession.  At least twice in the last two games we have given away possession with untidy passes in our own half back line.

There isn't a hope that he will even be on the panel next week lads.

Pity that. Did he also miss his year at Minor through injury?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on April 13, 2022, 03:15:37 PM
Quote from: Westside on April 13, 2022, 02:12:37 PM
Quote from: Cavan19 on April 13, 2022, 01:45:17 PM
Quote from: Westside on April 13, 2022, 01:30:01 PM
He'll find it difficult to break onto the team at this stage. Donohoe went for lots of size and power off the bench last week, sounds like he'd add to that. It's a strong squad. I dont think there's any superstars but lots of lads with a good skill level and an excellent work ethic.

We need to be a bit more solid when we are coming out with possession.  At least twice in the last two games we have given away possession with untidy passes in our own half back line.

There isn't a hope that he will even be on the panel next week lads.

Pity that. Did he also miss his year at Minor through injury?

Speaking of big lads, yer man that has been coming on for the U20s is some size of young lad. Caolan Reilly I think he is
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dreadnought on April 13, 2022, 03:20:12 PM
Quote from: Cavan19 on April 13, 2022, 01:45:17 PM
Quote from: Westside on April 13, 2022, 01:30:01 PM
He'll find it difficult to break onto the team at this stage. Donohoe went for lots of size and power off the bench last week, sounds like he'd add to that. It's a strong squad. I dont think there's any superstars but lots of lads with a good skill level and an excellent work ethic.

We need to be a bit more solid when we are coming out with possession.  At least twice in the last two games we have given away possession with untidy passes in our own half back line.

There isn't a hope that he will even be on the panel next week lads.

Wasn't it only something small that saw him miss the Derry game? Think Donohoe said he's looking to have a nearly full squad available for next weekend. If he's fit, I'd see him on the squad
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Cavan19 on April 13, 2022, 03:38:04 PM
Quote from: Dreadnought on April 13, 2022, 03:20:12 PM
Quote from: Cavan19 on April 13, 2022, 01:45:17 PM
Quote from: Westside on April 13, 2022, 01:30:01 PM
He'll find it difficult to break onto the team at this stage. Donohoe went for lots of size and power off the bench last week, sounds like he'd add to that. It's a strong squad. I dont think there's any superstars but lots of lads with a good skill level and an excellent work ethic.

We need to be a bit more solid when we are coming out with possession.  At least twice in the last two games we have given away possession with untidy passes in our own half back line.

There isn't a hope that he will even be on the panel next week lads.

Wasn't it only something small that saw him miss the Derry game? Think Donohoe said he's looking to have a nearly full squad available for next weekend. If he's fit, I'd see him on the squad

I don't think the fitness is there he was pretty anonymous from what i heard but its great that he is back playing anyway.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on April 13, 2022, 03:38:55 PM
Quote from: Itchy on April 13, 2022, 03:15:37 PM
Quote from: Westside on April 13, 2022, 02:12:37 PM
Quote from: Cavan19 on April 13, 2022, 01:45:17 PM
Quote from: Westside on April 13, 2022, 01:30:01 PM
He'll find it difficult to break onto the team at this stage. Donohoe went for lots of size and power off the bench last week, sounds like he'd add to that. It's a strong squad. I dont think there's any superstars but lots of lads with a good skill level and an excellent work ethic.

We need to be a bit more solid when we are coming out with possession.  At least twice in the last two games we have given away possession with untidy passes in our own half back line.

There isn't a hope that he will even be on the panel next week lads.

Pity that. Did he also miss his year at Minor through injury?

Speaking of big lads, yer man that has been coming on for the U20s is some size of young lad. Caolan Reilly I think he is

Yeah he's huge. And can play ball too. He was outstanding against Derry. Tough to change a winning team but there's a couple of starters that will be looking over their shoulder.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dreadnought on April 13, 2022, 03:39:40 PM
Quote from: Itchy on April 13, 2022, 03:15:37 PM
Quote from: Westside on April 13, 2022, 02:12:37 PM
Quote from: Cavan19 on April 13, 2022, 01:45:17 PM
Quote from: Westside on April 13, 2022, 01:30:01 PM
He'll find it difficult to break onto the team at this stage. Donohoe went for lots of size and power off the bench last week, sounds like he'd add to that. It's a strong squad. I dont think there's any superstars but lots of lads with a good skill level and an excellent work ethic.

We need to be a bit more solid when we are coming out with possession.  At least twice in the last two games we have given away possession with untidy passes in our own half back line.

There isn't a hope that he will even be on the panel next week lads.

Pity that. Did he also miss his year at Minor through injury?

Speaking of big lads, yer man that has been coming on for the U20s is some size of young lad. Caolan Reilly I think he is

Aye big lad as well, he was good when he came on, got a point quickly, and was generally involved in upping things a bit when needed to see that game out. He's played a bit of Senior football with Mullahoran last year so should start to come on a bit more the next while. A good option to come on.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dreadnought on April 13, 2022, 03:47:12 PM
Quote from: Cavan19 on April 13, 2022, 03:38:04 PM
Quote from: Dreadnought on April 13, 2022, 03:20:12 PM
Quote from: Cavan19 on April 13, 2022, 01:45:17 PM
Quote from: Westside on April 13, 2022, 01:30:01 PM
He'll find it difficult to break onto the team at this stage. Donohoe went for lots of size and power off the bench last week, sounds like he'd add to that. It's a strong squad. I dont think there's any superstars but lots of lads with a good skill level and an excellent work ethic.

We need to be a bit more solid when we are coming out with possession.  At least twice in the last two games we have given away possession with untidy passes in our own half back line.

There isn't a hope that he will even be on the panel next week lads.

Wasn't it only something small that saw him miss the Derry game? Think Donohoe said he's looking to have a nearly full squad available for next weekend. If he's fit, I'd see him on the squad

I don't think the fitness is there he was pretty anonymous from what i heard but its great that he is back playing anyway.

Not so sure about that, to be honest. He seems to be used as an option off the bench earlier in the league. Saying that, the squad will be strong for next weekend. Potentially likes of Ryan Brady, and Caoimhin McGovern among others who came back after injury to play with clubs last week. A few weeks of training and they might be in with a sniff of the panel for the final.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on April 17, 2022, 11:08:19 AM
Dara McVeety was back playing with Crosserlough last year. They were poor last year, but he will likely give them a lift .

Seniors ,U20s and Minors in action next weekend.  Maybe Antrim in Corrige Park will obviously be a tough game but winnable.  Tyrone Minors have been hammering teams in the league but obviously different in championship.  The u20s should give it a good rattle.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on April 17, 2022, 02:28:43 PM
Crosserlough are flying. McVeety being back will be a big boost. Any word on whether he's home for good? I thought it would be funny if he was playing games if he's only home on a holiday.

I'd be surprised if we win the U20 game. Tyrone look very strong especially up front.
Hard to know with the Minors, we have been going well but Tyrone away is probably the toughest draw. Is there still a back door in the Minor Championship?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dreadnought on April 17, 2022, 08:29:23 PM
Quote from: Westside on April 17, 2022, 02:28:43 PM
Crosserlough are flying. McVeety being back will be a big boost. Any word on whether he's home for good? I thought it would be funny if he was playing games if he's only home on a holiday.

I'd be surprised if we win the U20 game. Tyrone look very strong especially up front.
Hard to know with the Minors, we have been going well but Tyrone away is probably the toughest draw. Is there still a back door in the Minor Championship?

Lot of stuff flying around about McVeety. Some say he's back fully, some say he's just back for a few weeks. I've heard he is heading back for a short period to sort out his affairs there, but will be back after that to Ireland properly. He has transferred clubs. You don't do that if only home for a few weeks. Think he'll be a huge addition back to Crosserlough. He's apparently kept himself in good shape. Would love to see him give Cavan another rattle too, he's still a good age to see some more good years out of him. Only thing is the commitment. Hard to go back to that lifestyle after being out of it for 3 years
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on April 18, 2022, 03:23:29 PM
Back for good I'd say . He's a teacher, will probaly return to that in September.

Killygarry have been going poor in the league,missing a few County players but so are a number of clubs
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on April 18, 2022, 04:01:35 PM
Would Crosserlough be favourites for Championship now? Best player in the county back on board, James Smith fit, Paddy Lynch stepped up to another level. Renewwd hunger after last year's dip. They potentially look stronger than 2020.

Pity all 3 teams are out this weekend. Would have been nice to spread the games over a few weeks.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on April 18, 2022, 04:15:12 PM
They have Adrian Smith back also. He had a good year in 2020, in the full forward line. Gowna should be thereabouts again,. Sean McEvoy will be a big loss for Ramor, Conor Bradley transferring back might make up for the loss of McEvoy.

Padraig Moore back paying with Ballyhaise. A good forward,he was in Dubai for a couple of years.

Yes a lot of action.  Seniors and Minors both in different venues on Saturday
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mrdeeds on April 18, 2022, 09:20:25 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on April 18, 2022, 04:15:12 PM
They have Adrian Smith back also. He had a good year in 2020, in the full forward line. Gowna should be thereabouts again,. Sean McEvoy will be a big loss for Ramor, Conor Bradley transferring back might make up for the loss of McEvoy.

Padraig Moore back paying with Ballyhaise. A good forward,he was in Dubai for a couple of years.

Yes a lot of action.  Seniors and Minors both in different venues on Saturday

Sean Brady back with Ramor too playing well.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dreadnought on April 21, 2022, 03:52:21 PM
So a few days out from Corrigan Park. Word is that Marty Reilly and Ciaran Holla are fit and training, along with likes of Conor Brady too. Haven't heard from likes of Oisin Kiernan who had a bad injury. So pretty stocked panel, with a few lads to come back in who did not see much league time. In Championship we do tend to see some changes from teams that finished the League, so will be interesting to see the team announced although I expect Holla wouldn't start maybe. It'll be tight there, but overall think we have enough overall to win this with teh team we have and good weather giving for this.

Anyone get any word on challenges last few weeks or that? Surely there were some games around the country with teams needing game time to keep sharp.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Look-Up! on April 21, 2022, 05:33:56 PM
Antrim are very beatable. I think they'll have plenty of the play though so it won't be easy plus if they bring their shooting boots this time, big if, we could be in bother. Last time we played they dominated good parts of the game but their shooting was atrocious, kicking wide after wide from close central positions. It deflated them. Seem to remember Galligan pulling off some good saves as well.
Hard to know where we stand. Did enough for the division of the league we were in but no where near championship pace so we have big improvement needed. Hope to see some fire in the team again and more purpose to our play. Absolutely vital we keep a clean sheet. If we do then 15 points should be enough.

Big night tomorrow night for our U20's. Tyrone will be a very tough opponent but there is a bit of steel about this crop of Cavan lads. So think it will be a night for the hob nail boots. Don't care how ugly it is once we get over the line. We can keep our Sunday best for another occasion hopefully.

Good luck to all our teams this weekend.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: NatSoSaff on April 22, 2022, 09:40:04 AM
Just thought I'd check in on how the groundswell of Cavan support that would be 'travelling in their thousands' and 'fill Corrigan 3 times over' are getting on with their ticket purchases? Seems to be a fair few left with just over 24 hours to throw in on general sale lads! 
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Cavan19 on April 22, 2022, 09:45:06 AM
Quote from: NatSoSaff on April 22, 2022, 09:40:04 AM
Just thought I'd check in on how the groundswell of Cavan support that would be 'travelling in their thousands' and 'fill Corrigan 3 times over' are getting on with their ticket purchases? Seems to be a fair few left with just over 24 hours to throw in on general sale lads!

Looks like most are waiting for the Semi Final !
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: NatSoSaff on April 22, 2022, 10:00:49 AM
Not the die hards you claim then? Fair weather supporters at best? Only hit the big games? The embarrassment rolls on!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Cavan19 on April 22, 2022, 10:31:11 AM
Quote from: NatSoSaff on April 22, 2022, 10:00:49 AM
Not the die hards you claim then? Fair weather supporters at best? Only hit the big games? The embarrassment rolls on!

Don't think i claimed anything ?

We will be out in big numbers for the Semi Final though i will give you my word on that.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on April 22, 2022, 11:13:28 AM
Quote from: NatSoSaff on April 22, 2022, 10:00:49 AM
Not the die hards you claim then? Fair weather supporters at best? Only hit the big games? The embarrassment rolls on!

I don't think throwing shade at Cavan because you can't fill your own tiny home ground is quite the slam dunk you think it is...
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on April 22, 2022, 11:21:24 AM
Quote from: Westside on April 22, 2022, 11:13:28 AM
Quote from: NatSoSaff on April 22, 2022, 10:00:49 AM
Not the die hards you claim then? Fair weather supporters at best? Only hit the big games? The embarrassment rolls on!

I don't think throwing shade at Cavan because you can't fill your own tiny home ground is quite the slam dunk you think it is...

Despite being an antrim man I did laugh, and secretly cry, at this. We wish there was more interest in the county than there is but there isn't.

It will be interesting on saturday. It's not that often we have a chance to win in ulster but we have a chance here. Cavan would still be favourites and that's not a Fergie trick. If I were a Cavan fan I'd be very disappointed to be beat by antrim.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on April 22, 2022, 11:30:08 AM
 A strange time for the match on Saturday,  it's not on RTE or Sky so they weren't dictating the time.

Antrim started the League off well but faded in the last few games. In with a chance of promotion in the final game, and beaten by Westmeath in Corrigan Park. Tomas and Michael McCann still playing, Michael McCann is around 38. He had a good game in the middle against Cavan 2 years ago, but didn't have the legs for 70 minutes . Ryan Murray is a good forward.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on April 22, 2022, 11:31:34 AM
On the crowd thing, the appetite for this game is small. Had a trip to Croker a few weeks ago, Ulster U20 Final tonight, 2pm game and game on TV. And Antrim aren't a glamour fixture (same as Cavan)

If Cavan lose to Antrim it will probably have knock on effects for the squad and potentially put Mickey Graham under pressure for his job. We'd be disgusted to lose this game.

But it could well happen. Antrim on the up, knowing Cavan are flakey, bit of siege mentality in Corrigan. Its well set up for Antrim. I still believe we will win in a tough game.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dreadnought on April 22, 2022, 03:02:20 PM
Quote from: NatSoSaff on April 22, 2022, 10:00:49 AM
Not the die hards you claim then? Fair weather supporters at best? Only hit the big games? The embarrassment rolls on!

If you think this was anything but a usual setup, then I'd like to know what you're smoking. 2pm throw in on a Saturday, on TV, and the general information on tickets has been diabolical. Bulk of my family are not going, as during the last few weeks tickets were not to be found, and clubs were in the dark too. Initially we were told that there were no tickets on general sale, apply through the club, and even the clubs couldn't tell what was happening. Who is organising this shambles? Most of my family made different plans when it was clear we would not get enough tickets or at least some close together. they're going to watch on TV instead, as with the announcement of tickets being available after being released just the last few days, it was too short notice. I'm sure though that some will pick up more tickets closer to the time.

And have you really anything to crow about, coming here to our board? This is your first home Championship game in ages, and you're giving out to the away fans for not selling it out? With your population? Don't be so ridiculous...
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dreadnought on April 22, 2022, 03:09:58 PM
Quote from: Dreadnought on April 22, 2022, 03:02:20 PM
Quote from: NatSoSaff on April 22, 2022, 10:00:49 AM
Not the die hards you claim then? Fair weather supporters at best? Only hit the big games? The embarrassment rolls on!

If you think this was anything but a usual setup, then I'd like to know what you're smoking. 2pm throw in on a Saturday, on TV, and the general information on tickets has been diabolical. Bulk of my family are not going, as during the last few weeks tickets were not to be found, and clubs were in the dark too. Initially we were told that there were no tickets on general sale, apply through the club, and even the clubs couldn't tell what was happening. Who is organising this shambles? Most of my family made different plans when it was clear we would not get enough tickets or at least some close together. they're going to watch on TV instead, as with the announcement of tickets being available after being released just the last few days, it was too short notice. I'm sure though that some will pick up more tickets closer to the time.

And have you really anything to crow about, coming here to our board? This is your first home Championship game in ages, and you're giving out to the away fans for not selling it out? With your population? Don't be so ridiculous...

Add in an U20 Ulster final the night before, and a minor match a few hours after, all in different counties at different times. Some are likely planning their weekend accordingly on this.

Like, if we look objectively. It's hard to suit regular volumes of people with a small capacity venue. If this was Clones etc. or somewhere at least over 10k, there would be a lot of tickets, and people can pick up as many as they see fit. With the whole conversation about capacity, and with the word going round about few tickets, some just simply will not bother even trying to go. That's the capacity issue, along with all the other reasons thrown in including TV. If the Capacity was bigger, you'd find the numbers would be well over what the max Corrigan can hold. It's simple numbers pal
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dreadnought on April 22, 2022, 08:41:04 PM
U20s doing decently here. Up a point at half time. Doing well at the back where we're closing them down, and turning them over, and just generally frustrating them for the most part. Forwards need to change it up a bit. A combination of some poor shots, bad decision making, and just some poor wides means we haven't taken full advantage of the chances we had. Running into some blind alleys too. Can easily gee them up at half time, and have bench options, so this is still easily there for us. Come on lads!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: NatSoSaff on April 23, 2022, 08:49:28 AM
In fairness you are spot on with all of that, it was a tongue in cheek comeback at the crowing and crying done a few weeks ago by some of your posters around how thousands will be up in arms about not getting tickets and how Cavan travel in huge numbers for every championship game. Evidently not, but again the reasons outlined by the last few posters are hard to argue with.
Anyway, I'm hoping for a good game today and for an upset of course. Any excuse to come come back on for another wee dig  ;)
Your u20's were seriously unlucky last night. The better team for large spells. Future looking bright for Cavan.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on April 23, 2022, 04:11:44 PM
Great to see that the players managed to get a result despite the mortal fear they had of playing in Corrigan Park...

Joking aside, some of the usual failings but plenty to be positive about. Particularly seeing Holla and Marty back on the pitch.. Lynch with another big performance. Gearoid has hopefully blew out the cobwebs. Was happy with our attacking intent and approach to the game.

Much bigger tests await and massive improvement needed.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on April 23, 2022, 07:34:45 PM
Minors played some good football, but Tyrone a bit more clinical. Matthew Smith is a good prospect.

I don't know who the backdoor in Ulster wasn't kept a few years ago.  It's run in the other 3 provinces.
Ulster says no to any change.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on April 23, 2022, 07:35:49 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on April 23, 2022, 07:34:45 PM
Minors played some good football, but Tyrone a bit more clinical. Matthew Smith is a good prospect.

I don't know who the backdoor in Ulster wasn't kept a few years ago.  It's run in the other 3 provinces.
Ulster says no to any change.

Is there no backdoor for them?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on April 23, 2022, 07:40:05 PM
No, that's them done for the year.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on April 23, 2022, 07:40:46 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on April 23, 2022, 07:40:05 PM
No, that's them done for the year.

Ffs, that's some bullshit.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: nrico2006 on April 23, 2022, 07:41:09 PM
Unfair competition from an Ulster perspective if the other 3 provinces still retain the back door.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on April 23, 2022, 07:42:00 PM
I think there is a back door?

Tyrone much the better side, more pacey and direct.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on April 23, 2022, 07:44:30 PM
Sorry,  there actually is a backdoor it seems. https://t.co/k1XxIdNPp5

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on April 23, 2022, 07:46:51 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on April 23, 2022, 07:44:30 PM
Sorry,  there actually is a backdoor it seems. https://t.co/k1XxIdNPp5

Rodney you plonker ;D
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on April 24, 2022, 10:43:12 AM
I was only going by the stream of the game. Paddy Sheanon said they were finished for the year.

They play Fermanagh in next round
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Look-Up! on April 24, 2022, 12:14:29 PM
Good result yesterday, dominated the whole game much easier than I expected. Played some nice football. Were very wasteful in first half but second half used the wind very well and took some good scores. Great to see such a strong bench and some of our bigger cogs get a run out in second half. Defence looked solid albeit it was a tight pitch and Antrim were poor enough. Much bigger test coming up but you can only beat what's in front of you and it was a nice workout with no suspensions or injuries picked up. Next game will be much more pacey and we certainly won't have it near as easy either end of the field but a little more confident now than last week.

Very hard luck to U20s. Played some great football at times. There was some sloppy passing and decision making throughout which kept Tyrone in it but space and opportunities were at a premium especially second half against 16 men. Pity we didn't try use Darragh Lovett more as he looked extremely dangerous every time he got it and well capable of winning any ball came his way. Couldn't buy a free for love or money which made it much easier for Tyrone's defence and difficult for us to keep the scoreboard ticking over last half hour. Extremely cruel way to lose it in the end when a draw was the least we deserved. But good campaign over all with 3 very solid performances and lots of good prospects there for the future. Good that the minors get another day out, Will bring them on and hopefully they spring a few surprises yet.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dreadnought on April 24, 2022, 10:30:01 PM
Boys, forgot to mention about one of the minors last night. Matthew Smith from Ramor has one of the sweetest strikes of a placed ball that I've seen for a while. The boy stroked over frees and 45s from distance and made it look easy. A great skill to have in the locker. Tyrone people beside me were talking about how good he was. Hope he keeps it up and kicks on from here (pun intended)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on May 01, 2022, 06:35:56 PM
Tyrone out. If we could beat Donegal, what an Ulster Final it would be against either of the other two.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on May 03, 2022, 11:45:48 AM
Is it true that S johnson is now a forwards coach in the cavan set up? The biggest thing he should work on is to stop players kicking the ball short.  Does my head in.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on May 03, 2022, 11:51:16 AM
Quote from: Denn Forever on May 03, 2022, 11:45:48 AM
Is it true that S johnson is now a forwards coach in the cavan set up? The biggest thing he should work on is to stop players kicking the ball short.  Does my head in.

Yes it is true, he has been there since the start of the year.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Look-Up! on May 03, 2022, 12:04:14 PM
Great to be back in Clones this time of year for a big championship game albeit very nervous about our prospects.
I was fairly confident last time we met Donegal that we could upset the apple cart but have no idea what to expect this time. Donegal are a serious outfit and made handy work of a very good Armagh side. Nullified their go to men without much ceremony and have some brilliant ball winners, driving runners, size and physicality throughout their squad and score getters from many quarters. They'll be out for revenge from last time and will be laying down a marker very early. I think their weak link is their manager but he will have them very motivated for this one and will be looking to go to town on us.
Hard to know where we're at. We've been very flat since winning Ulster and instead of building on it have gone very much backwards. Saw some glimmers of light in last couple of performances but plenty of problems too. Difficult to know what stage some of the lads coming back from injury are at but we'll need every man fully fit and able for this one and will have to be on our A game from the off. First 15 minutes will be telling. If we're flat and let Donegal into their rhythm then it will make for a very uncomfortable 70 mins viewing. Hoping we can avoid that and at least make them work hard for an hour but in the end difficult to see past a Donegal win.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Look-Up! on May 10, 2022, 07:13:17 PM
Hard luck to the lads on Sunday. Very disappointed with the result but hard not but be impressed with the effort. Gave Donegal their fill of it for most of the game but ran out of steam in the end. I thought when we got it to 14 each we were going to the wire but 1 point in the final 20 mins (not counting last consolation score) was telling. Donegal did have a bit of luck and the goals killed us so who knows but we needed something from the bench for the final heave.
Obviously a week too early for some of the lads returning and maybe a lack of confidence in the rest of the squad so plenty to work on and build for the future. Strange Ciaran Brady was on the bench but never made an appearance. It was actually a situation made for a player like him to drive us on and give us some momentum and put the opposition on the back foot.
So onto the Tailteann Cup. Would be good to see us give it a go but I also think it's a great opportunity to give more lads a run, maybe some of the U20s. It's fairly obvious we need to develop more options off the bench for next year and beyond and that's not even factoring in possible retirements. So all in all a great improvement from where we were start of year but massive work to be done next few years if we are to have a 20 man team to call on in the white heat of championship.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Look-Up! on May 18, 2022, 03:21:26 PM
Down game in Breffni Saturday week. Should be a decent test for us and interesting to see what team takes the field and who makes the panel.
If Donegal match showed us one thing it's that our squad needs improvement, and going forward for championship we need to be able to call on more players from the bench when we're foundering.
This is an ideal tournament for us to use 21 players every match and still be in contention to win every game. Would be great to win it out and blood some of the cubs but Down, despite all the doom and gloom about them, need to be taken seriously.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on May 18, 2022, 03:39:15 PM
Will be interesting to see how Mickey handles his panel for this. Can he bring in U20s? Apart from Cian Reilly there isn't any player who clearly stands out so dropping a fringe player at their expense wouldn't do much for morale.

Down are absolutely a danger here. Cavan people seem to be taking far too much comfort from a moral victory over Donegal. We can't forget that we were almost turned over on several occasions by division 4 sides this year and have been caught by motivated lower tier opposition on a few occasions.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Look-Up! on May 18, 2022, 04:03:50 PM
Quote from: Westside on May 18, 2022, 03:39:15 PM
Will be interesting to see how Mickey handles his panel for this. Can he bring in U20s? Apart from Cian Reilly there isn't any player who clearly stands out so dropping a fringe player at their expense wouldn't do much for morale.

Down are absolutely a danger here. Cavan people seem to be taking far too much comfort from a moral victory over Donegal. We can't forget that we were almost turned over on several occasions by division 4 sides this year and have been caught by motivated lower tier opposition on a few occasions.
Would fully agree with that Westside. Some likely lads on the U20 panel but then again it can take a few seasons for some to get the work into the legs and be able to handle senior football. Others can hit the ground running.
There's plenty of fringe players need to be given a run if they're worth their place on the panel and persisting with. Did I read somewhere that we used over 30 players in the league? We've used 20 so far in the championship and only made 3 subs the last day. So either way we need to mix it up a bit but at the same time look to be winning every game.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on May 18, 2022, 05:38:10 PM
I don't think Mickey has done too badly in that respect. Most fringe lads have got a bit of a run. Stephen Smith got 2 games. Ben Kelly got 2 games, Evan Finnegan got 3 games (maybe more) Caoimhin Reilly got 2 games and a few decent sub appearances. None of them really forced their way into the starting lineup. I suppose it's really about identifying someone who will has the ability to push on and be a top intercounty player and put them in with lots of experience around them.
Cian Reilly for me fits that bill and of course has experience already. Oisin Brady is another.

I think as we saw in the past 2 league seasons, coming into a competition as heavy favourites with big expectation in the county is a terrible place for this Cavan team to be. But if they have the desire to be a top team, dealing with the favourites tag and beating sides you're expected to beat is part of it.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Look-Up! on May 18, 2022, 06:03:28 PM
Understand what you're saying and that's why this Cup is a great opportunity to get more milage into the fringe players. But at some stage, if we want to be a regular contender against the big boys we need at least 21 lads we would be happy to throw into any situation. And part of that process might be throwing them into the deep end and not knowing if they'll sink or swim in a go for it move, as opposed to leaving on lads that have already emptied the tank.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Look-Up! on May 27, 2022, 05:27:49 PM
Few injury problems being reported for us, we'll see what the lineup looks like and how much of it is true. Down with plenty of problems of their own.
All the neutrals seem to be heavily tipping Cavan. I think and hope we'll win but might not be as easy as expected. A refocused Down with an injection of fresh blood and a point to prove are capable of giving us a land. Add in a few key injuries to us and it severely weakens us.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dreadnought on May 28, 2022, 12:12:10 AM
An extremely strong team named for tomorrow. Looks like we're going at this...
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Look-Up! on May 29, 2022, 08:23:25 PM
Good workout yesterday. Down were poor enough but that's their problem. We set to the task at hand and went through the gears, created plenty, got 20 lads a run out and came through relatively unscathed. Hopefully no major injuries picked up. Little bit wasteful at times as can happen when it's one way traffic but sets us up nicely for QF.
I'd like to see us get Fermanagh. We owe them one from last year and look a much stiffer test than the one we got yesterday. Be good to see how we approach the attacking side of the game and how we breakdown a well setup team. A game in Brewster or Breffni between us should attract a good crowd too if the weather holds and playing conditions good.
   
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: marty34 on May 29, 2022, 08:48:41 PM
Quote from: Look-Up! on May 29, 2022, 08:23:25 PM
Good workout yesterday. Down were poor enough but that's their problem. We set to the task at hand and went through the gears, created plenty, got 20 lads a run out and came through relatively unscathed. Hopefully no major injuries picked up. Little bit wasteful at times as can happen when it's one way traffic but sets us up nicely for QF.
I'd like to see us get Fermanagh. We owe them one from last year and look a much stiffer test than the one we got yesterday. Be good to see how we approach the attacking side of the game and how we breakdown a well setup team. A game in Brewster or Breffni between us should attract a good crowd too if the weather holds and playing conditions good.
   

Is it still a north/south draw or open draw now?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on May 29, 2022, 09:21:52 PM
Quote from: marty34 on May 29, 2022, 08:48:41 PM
Quote from: Look-Up! on May 29, 2022, 08:23:25 PM
Good workout yesterday. Down were poor enough but that's their problem. We set to the task at hand and went through the gears, created plenty, got 20 lads a run out and came through relatively unscathed. Hopefully no major injuries picked up. Little bit wasteful at times as can happen when it's one way traffic but sets us up nicely for QF.
I'd like to see us get Fermanagh. We owe them one from last year and look a much stiffer test than the one we got yesterday. Be good to see how we approach the attacking side of the game and how we breakdown a well setup team. A game in Brewster or Breffni between us should attract a good crowd too if the weather holds and playing conditions good.
   

Is it still a north/south draw or open draw now?

Still North/South
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dreadnought on May 30, 2022, 07:47:02 AM
Quote from: marty34 on May 29, 2022, 08:48:41 PM
Quote from: Look-Up! on May 29, 2022, 08:23:25 PM
Good workout yesterday. Down were poor enough but that's their problem. We set to the task at hand and went through the gears, created plenty, got 20 lads a run out and came through relatively unscathed. Hopefully no major injuries picked up. Little bit wasteful at times as can happen when it's one way traffic but sets us up nicely for QF.
I'd like to see us get Fermanagh. We owe them one from last year and look a much stiffer test than the one we got yesterday. Be good to see how we approach the attacking side of the game and how we breakdown a well setup team. A game in Brewster or Breffni between us should attract a good crowd too if the weather holds and playing conditions good.
   

Is it still a north/south draw or open draw now?

Yeah still North/South. Draw is in an hours time. We'll be playing one of Fermanagh, Leitrim, or Sligo.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Look-Up! on May 30, 2022, 09:00:43 PM
So Fermanagh in Brewster it is. More than likely a tight suffocating physical game beckons- no harm in that and one to develop on our attacking play and finishing. Chances should be at a premium so we will need to be ruthless with what falls our way. Also defensively can't afford lapses- a goal in a game like this is huge. Looking forward to it already.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on May 30, 2022, 09:19:43 PM
Should be a good one. If its a decent day we could see a big crowd from Cavan.
The Letrim v Sligo and Offaly v NY games both being streamed. Both Offaly and Leitrim have had a televised game already so hard to see how they justify not showing this game. Especially when it's against 2 of the tournament favourites.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on June 07, 2022, 08:40:12 AM
Really strong performance from the lads at the weekend, its a rare thing to put a score like that up against Fermanagh and to win so comfortably against them. Serious performances from Gearoid (he clearly doesnt like the Erne men) and Thomas Galligan who was a wrecking ball through out. Sligo are struggling at the moment and while theyve had 2 wins they were very lucky against London and struggled over the line against Leitrim. If Cavan bring the same level of intensity to that game I think they can win it well. It would be nice to see them cut loose a bit in Croke Park, we certainly havent brought our A game there in recent memory.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Look-Up! on June 07, 2022, 02:58:29 PM
Yeah good win. Unusually for a derby against Fermanagh we got off to a flier and pretty much kept them at arm's length throughout. Expected the win but thought it would be tight for about an hour or so. Players coming back into form and from injury so should have a strong squad to pick from here on in.
Sligo look like the weakest of the teams left. They've had a poor enough championship so far, made hard work of an easy enough run. I suppose there might be a big game in them but they will have to show considerably more than they have done to cause us panic. They have pace so Croker might suit them but from our point of view it's one we really should be taking buy the scruff of the neck and try run up a decent score.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on June 17, 2022, 11:40:58 AM
Will it be on TV?  I don't think it would affect  the crowd.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Look-Up! on June 17, 2022, 12:29:14 PM
It's on RTE. Doesn't look like Niall Murphy will be back for Sligo so a big loss for them. We on the other hand look like having a full squad to call on. Hard to see past a Cavan victory. As long as we don't completely screw up and ship goals I think we will be comfortable enough.

Ulster club fixtures out. We have Fermanagh champions first so very tough but not impossible. Obviously if Derrygonnelly can get out of Fermanagh they will be delighted with draw and looking to build on some good form in this competition. Winner plays Armagh/Monaghan/Down. Would be great if Cavan champions could finally get a win in this competition and get to a semi with a bit of momentum (and no hangover).
I'm really looking forward to the club championship. Have a feeling it will be a cracker and eventual winners will be in great shape for first round.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on June 17, 2022, 01:04:23 PM
Interesting to hear Graham on WAC talking about how Cavan are playing football the right way, they want to play with pace etc. I don't recall it being something he has talked about previously. I think it's great if you can play that way and keep winning. It feeds into more excitement internally and nationally about the team which can only improve player retention and the desire to be a part of playing football for Cavan at all levels.

I wonder will we see more pace in the side on Sunday maybe a start for Carolan again and Stephen Smith?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Look-Up! on June 17, 2022, 01:14:55 PM
Having forwards that can get out and win ball and do something with it will always help teams play at a better tempo. Patrick Lynch has come on leaps and bounds in that regard and if he can continue to improve and other lads in the forward line step up it could be transformational for us in the coming years especially if it's backed up elsewhere on the field with new additions from good underage teams.
Hopefully he stays injury free and handles the expectations. Really looking forward to seeing him in the club championship. Crosserlough could have a big year with James Smith back to his best too. They're going well in the league too blooding some very decent young players.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on June 17, 2022, 02:45:06 PM
Quote from: Look-Up! on June 17, 2022, 01:14:55 PM
Having forwards that can get out and win ball and do something with it will always help teams play at a better tempo. Patrick Lynch has come on leaps and bounds in that regard and if he can continue to improve and other lads in the forward line step up it could be transformational for us in the coming years especially if it's backed up elsewhere on the field with new additions from good underage teams.
Hopefully he stays injury free and handles the expectations. Really looking forward to seeing him in the club championship. Crosserlough could have a big year with James Smith back to his best too. They're going well in the league too blooding some very decent young players.

For Paddy's confidence he could do with a good game Sunday. He had a brilliant league final and first two championship games but he has gone off the boil a bit since the Donegal game. That said he's still contributing to the scoreboard. Would be great to see another big Croker performance from him.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: marty34 on June 17, 2022, 03:50:03 PM
Quote from: Westside on June 17, 2022, 02:45:06 PM
Quote from: Look-Up! on June 17, 2022, 01:14:55 PM
Having forwards that can get out and win ball and do something with it will always help teams play at a better tempo. Patrick Lynch has come on leaps and bounds in that regard and if he can continue to improve and other lads in the forward line step up it could be transformational for us in the coming years especially if it's backed up elsewhere on the field with new additions from good underage teams.
Hopefully he stays injury free and handles the expectations. Really looking forward to seeing him in the club championship. Crosserlough could have a big year with James Smith back to his best too. They're going well in the league too blooding some very decent young players.

For Paddy's confidence he could do with a good game Sunday. He had a brilliant league final and first two championship games but he has gone off the boil a bit since the Donegal game. That said he's still contributing to the scoreboard. Would be great to see another big Croker performance from him.

Still a young lad and has had a great season.

He's a marked man now, plus the packed defenses make it a lot harder for someone on the edge of the square.

Wouldn't put too much pressure on him.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on June 17, 2022, 04:11:50 PM
Quote from: marty34 on June 17, 2022, 03:50:03 PM
Quote from: Westside on June 17, 2022, 02:45:06 PM
Quote from: Look-Up! on June 17, 2022, 01:14:55 PM
Having forwards that can get out and win ball and do something with it will always help teams play at a better tempo. Patrick Lynch has come on leaps and bounds in that regard and if he can continue to improve and other lads in the forward line step up it could be transformational for us in the coming years especially if it's backed up elsewhere on the field with new additions from good underage teams.
Hopefully he stays injury free and handles the expectations. Really looking forward to seeing him in the club championship. Crosserlough could have a big year with James Smith back to his best too. They're going well in the league too blooding some very decent young players.

For Paddy's confidence he could do with a good game Sunday. He had a brilliant league final and first two championship games but he has gone off the boil a bit since the Donegal game. That said he's still contributing to the scoreboard. Would be great to see another big Croker performance from him.

Still a young lad and has had a great season.

He's a marked man now, plus the packed defenses make it a lot harder for someone on the edge of the square.

Wouldn't put too much pressure on him.

There's no pressure on him. If he doesn't play well there's plenty of others to take up the slack. But in what should be a fairly open game on a fast pitch in Croke Park, I'd like to see our young new star forward dominate the scoreboard again.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Look-Up! on June 17, 2022, 06:33:11 PM
I think it's very important for both players and management that we play well this weekend and get the win. We should have plenty of options and more than one game winner considering it's bottom 16 competition. A loss would be disastrous actually.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on June 20, 2022, 10:41:49 AM
Who here thinks there were other candidates for man of the match?  McLoughlin, either Smith.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Cavan19 on June 20, 2022, 11:18:23 AM
Quote from: Denn Forever on June 20, 2022, 10:41:49 AM
Who here thinks there were other candidates for man of the match?  McLoughlin, either Smith.

Without a doubt i wouldn't have had Gearoid in the conversation for man of the match the two named would definitely have been more worthy.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on June 20, 2022, 12:07:04 PM
Quote from: Denn Forever on June 20, 2022, 10:41:49 AM
Who here thinks there were other candidates for man of the match?  McLoughlin, either Smith.

McLoughlin was unreal and Smith close 2nd. Who picked the mom?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Look-Up! on June 20, 2022, 12:20:22 PM
Probably McLoughlin my man of the match.

Good win in the end but we certainly rode our luck. Sligo will be kicking themselves, passed up a lot of goal chances but their wides were particularly bad. Especially towards the end they had some decent chances to really tighten us but failed to get it between the posts. We missed a few ourselves. Last goal chance for Thomas Galligan really should have been put over the bar to put the game to bed. Could have come back to bite us. Niall Murphy looked a class apart when he came on and caused all sorts of problems but we were dodgy enough looking in defence before that.
We got off to a good start with good attacking intent and looked like it would be a walkover but became ponderous after a while. I thought we stopped attacking the spaces behind them. Runners off the ball stopped making the hard yards or lads on the ball were slow to spot the runs and went with the easy backwards/lateral options. Dodgy penalty got them back in it and incredibly they could have gone in ahead at the break. We kept ticking over second half but there were some very hairy moments and had Sligo a bit more quality/composure we would have been in serious bother.
Patrick Lynch got on a good bit of ball but he had a very sticky marker and recycled everything he got. Probably could have done with more support. Once again in a tight game we were very slow to use the bench and only emptied it to waste time in the end. No one really played badly and we had some very good individual performances on the day but a lot of lads played in their comfort zone and took little risks.

Westmeath in the final it is. They look a big upgrade on anyone, bar Donegal, we've faced so far. Will be a very tough assignment but one we should be looking to win. They had a great win and put up a massive score on Offaly. The Faithful boys are a decent footballing team but undercooked and will take a few more years to develop. In truth Westmeath bullied them. They certainly won't be able to do the same to us but they are a powerful outfit, move the ball well and Heslin is a top forward and match winner. For them, this is also a game they will be fully expecting to win and will have no fear whatsoever of facing us. So all in all, a great final in prospect.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on June 20, 2022, 12:20:42 PM
Gearoid played extremely well. No issue with him being MOTM. Gerry Smith could have got it either or even McLoughlin. I've
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dreadnought on June 20, 2022, 01:59:32 PM
Quote from: Itchy on June 20, 2022, 12:07:04 PM
Quote from: Denn Forever on June 20, 2022, 10:41:49 AM
Who here thinks there were other candidates for man of the match?  McLoughlin, either Smith.

McLoughlin was unreal and Smith close 2nd. Who picked the mom?

The lads doing the punditry. They name checked Gerry and McLoughlin though. I do think G had a good game though. He probably stood out for others as our big name player. Also think that we're so used to Gearoid playing to a high level consistently, that we expect it of him as his usual level, we get used to it. He was good, I'd have given it to Gerry or Jason though.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on June 20, 2022, 02:42:23 PM
What about Gunner hitting a big score after the Sligo goal?? Maybe the second or third time I've seen him hit a point for Cavan.

Lynch was well wrapped up. Defenders are probably watching lots of tape and are figuring out how to stop him. Important that we continue to get Galligan and Gearoid running off him.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dreadnought on June 21, 2022, 08:00:53 AM
Quote from: Westside on June 20, 2022, 02:42:23 PM
What about Gunner hitting a big score after the Sligo goal?? Maybe the second or third time I've seen him hit a point for Cavan.

Lynch was well wrapped up. Defenders are probably watching lots of tape and are figuring out how to stop him. Important that we continue to get Galligan and Gearoid running off him.

Gunner did well alright, not too often you see him take a point like that, it was a belter too. He can tell the grandkids about a cracker he scored at HQ back in the day.

What did we think of the supposed foot block? Really not sure what to think. It wasn't what you would call a standard foot block. He threw himself forward to block the ball, and then the forward kicked the back of Gunners leg. Is this a foot block? It's not the one we usually see where thy use their foot to block the ball, potentially causing injury to the kicker. It was Gunner himself who ended up injured on the back of that, was hobbling and had to come off after it. Thoughts?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on June 21, 2022, 09:15:24 AM
Personally I think calling a penalty for that would have been harsh. He didn't go in foot first. He went in with his hands and intended to block with his hands.

You'd have to say Cavan are really clicking up front. I know a lot of people were questioning Johnston earlier in the year but we have really improved in that department. We still need James Smith to up his conversion rate but overall we look much stronger in the attacking third.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on June 21, 2022, 11:13:04 AM
Quote from: Dreadnought on June 21, 2022, 08:00:53 AM
Quote from: Westside on June 20, 2022, 02:42:23 PM
What about Gunner hitting a big score after the Sligo goal?? Maybe the second or third time I've seen him hit a point for Cavan.

Lynch was well wrapped up. Defenders are probably watching lots of tape and are figuring out how to stop him. Important that we continue to get Galligan and Gearoid running off him.

Gunner did well alright, not too often you see him take a point like that, it was a belter too. He can tell the grandkids about a cracker he scored at HQ back in the day.

What did we think of the supposed foot block? Really not sure what to think. It wasn't what you would call a standard foot block. He threw himself forward to block the ball, and then the forward kicked the back of Gunners leg. Is this a foot block? It's not the one we usually see where thy use their foot to block the ball, potentially causing injury to the kicker. It was Gunner himself who ended up injured on the back of that, was hobbling and had to come off after it. Thoughts?

I think Gunner and Faulkner really struggled. They were however left very isolated by the way Cavan set up and I think thats on Mickey as he did not show the Sligo inside line the respect they deserved. It could have gone badly wrong and a repeat of that set up against Westmeath could be disastrous. I dont buy the idea either he was holding something back for the final.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dreadnought on June 22, 2022, 07:41:56 AM
Quote from: Westside on June 21, 2022, 09:15:24 AM
Personally I think calling a penalty for that would have been harsh. He didn't go in foot first. He went in with his hands and intended to block with his hands.

You'd have to say Cavan are really clicking up front. I know a lot of people were questioning Johnston earlier in the year but we have really improved in that department. We still need James Smith to up his conversion rate but overall we look much stronger in the attacking third.

That's what i thought too. Didn't look like the usual footblock where a player sticks their foot out when the ball is being struck. He was blocking with his body and hands like you say, and then the forward kicked him. Wouldn't have been surprised if it was given though, probably makes up for the penalty that they did get. It was definitely not in the box.

I'd agree. We're running up good totals, and it could be better if we get some to up their conversion rate, or not take low % shots. Suppose it's the game we're playing, we're pushing forward and leaving ourselves a bit open at the back. We're trusting our forwards to shoot out whatever the other team scores.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on June 22, 2022, 08:29:18 AM
Quote from: Dreadnought on June 22, 2022, 07:41:56 AM
Quote from: Westside on June 21, 2022, 09:15:24 AM
Personally I think calling a penalty for that would have been harsh. He didn't go in foot first. He went in with his hands and intended to block with his hands.

You'd have to say Cavan are really clicking up front. I know a lot of people were questioning Johnston earlier in the year but we have really improved in that department. We still need James Smith to up his conversion rate but overall we look much stronger in the attacking third.

That's what i thought too. Didn't look like the usual footblock where a player sticks their foot out when the ball is being struck. He was blocking with his body and hands like you say, and then the forward kicked him. Wouldn't have been surprised if it was given though, probably makes up for the penalty that they did get. It was definitely not in the box.

I'd agree. We're running up good totals, and it could be better if we get some to up their conversion rate, or not take low % shots. Suppose it's the game we're playing, we're pushing forward and leaving ourselves a bit open at the back. We're trusting our forwards to shoot out whatever the other team scores.

I would have thought our conversion rate on points was very decent. The big issue is we pushed men forward when Sligo were in possession and doing kick outs yet hardly ever turned them over high up the field. That was poor. We also failed to filter back (perhaps by design) to cover our Full backs who were left really exposed. It was a poor defensive effort from Cavan.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on June 22, 2022, 08:55:54 AM
I don't think there was a true intention to push up the Sligo kickout. When Cavan decide to press fully there's an intensity and method to it. I didn't see any of that Sunday. It looked like we were happy enough to allow them to take the kickout short. Strange given how well we were doing when they did kick long.

I think we are in a better position coming into this final. All of a sudden people are tipping Westmeath and we are no longer the red hot favourites. Westmeath's running game and attacking power is getting a lot of attention and the main takeaway from our game is how well Sligo did. I'd much rather it this way than if we had hammered Sligo and people are talking about how we're too good for the division..
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dreadnought on June 22, 2022, 09:55:43 AM
Quote from: Westside on June 22, 2022, 08:55:54 AM
I don't think there was a true intention to push up the Sligo kickout. When Cavan decide to press fully there's an intensity and method to it. I didn't see any of that Sunday. It looked like we were happy enough to allow them to take the kickout short. Strange given how well we were doing when they did kick long.

I think we are in a better position coming into this final. All of a sudden people are tipping Westmeath and we are no longer the red hot favourites. Westmeath's running game and attacking power is getting a lot of attention and the main takeaway from our game is how well Sligo did. I'd much rather it this way than if we had hammered Sligo and people are talking about how we're too good for the division..

Fully agree. It was the method we used for Sligo, but we know it won't work for Westmeath. By all accounts Faulkner was suffering food poisoning and others just didn't have a great game. Can't see that being the case 2 games in a row. Absolutely fine by me the way things went Sunday. It tempers things a little, everyone is paying attention to them now. It was no bad thing for us to know we've things to work on, and for them to think they're great with their big win. We're in a good place. Hope likes of Marty and Gunner will be ok after their injuries. 3 weeks should be enough time for any small niggles.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on June 22, 2022, 10:26:26 AM
Quote from: Westside on June 22, 2022, 08:55:54 AM
I don't think there was a true intention to push up the Sligo kickout. When Cavan decide to press fully there's an intensity and method to it. I didn't see any of that Sunday. It looked like we were happy enough to allow them to take the kickout short. Strange given how well we were doing when they did kick long.

I think we are in a better position coming into this final. All of a sudden people are tipping Westmeath and we are no longer the red hot favourites. Westmeath's running game and attacking power is getting a lot of attention and the main takeaway from our game is how well Sligo did. I'd much rather it this way than if we had hammered Sligo and people are talking about how we're too good for the division..

If thats the case why didnt we have some cover for Faulkner and Gunner then. It didnt make sense what was happening.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on June 22, 2022, 05:06:47 PM
Quote from: Itchy on June 22, 2022, 10:26:26 AM
Quote from: Westside on June 22, 2022, 08:55:54 AM
I don't think there was a true intention to push up the Sligo kickout. When Cavan decide to press fully there's an intensity and method to it. I didn't see any of that Sunday. It looked like we were happy enough to allow them to take the kickout short. Strange given how well we were doing when they did kick long.

I think we are in a better position coming into this final. All of a sudden people are tipping Westmeath and we are no longer the red hot favourites. Westmeath's running game and attacking power is getting a lot of attention and the main takeaway from our game is how well Sligo did. I'd much rather it this way than if we had hammered Sligo and people are talking about how we're too good for the division..

If thats the case why didnt we have some cover for Faulkner and Gunner then. It didnt make sense what was happening.

Yeah it's confusing. We were implementing a half hearted press, not turning them over from ashort kick outs or really forcing them to go long. But still leaving our full backs, one of whom was unwell apparently, without any cover.

What will the match ups be for the final? I'd expect Conor Brady to pick up Heslin, Clarke on Connellan and maybe McLoughlin on O'Toole.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Cavan19 on June 24, 2022, 06:07:55 PM
Quote from: Itchy on June 22, 2022, 10:26:26 AM
Quote from: Westside on June 22, 2022, 08:55:54 AM
I don't think there was a true intention to push up the Sligo kickout. When Cavan decide to press fully there's an intensity and method to it. I didn't see any of that Sunday. It looked like we were happy enough to allow them to take the kickout short. Strange given how well we were doing when they did kick long.

I think we are in a better position coming into this final. All of a sudden people are tipping Westmeath and we are no longer the red hot favourites. Westmeath's running game and attacking power is getting a lot of attention and the main takeaway from our game is how well Sligo did. I'd much rather it this way than if we had hammered Sligo and people are talking about how we're too good for the division..

If thats the case why didnt we have some cover for Faulkner and Gunner then. It didnt make sense what was happening.

Just on this in the years before it was the thing to have sweepers in place and the game was played a bit more direct would some of the players we have now even be county players as they seem to get into awful bother when left 1 on 1?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on June 24, 2022, 06:56:43 PM
Quote from: Cavan19 on June 24, 2022, 06:07:55 PM
Quote from: Itchy on June 22, 2022, 10:26:26 AM
Quote from: Westside on June 22, 2022, 08:55:54 AM
I don't think there was a true intention to push up the Sligo kickout. When Cavan decide to press fully there's an intensity and method to it. I didn't see any of that Sunday. It looked like we were happy enough to allow them to take the kickout short. Strange given how well we were doing when they did kick long.

I think we are in a better position coming into this final. All of a sudden people are tipping Westmeath and we are no longer the red hot favourites. Westmeath's running game and attacking power is getting a lot of attention and the main takeaway from our game is how well Sligo did. I'd much rather it this way than if we had hammered Sligo and people are talking about how we're too good for the division..

If thats the case why didnt we have some cover for Faulkner and Gunner then. It didnt make sense what was happening.

Just on this in the years before it was the thing to have sweepers in place and the game was played a bit more direct would some of the players we have now even be county players as they seem to get into awful bother when left 1 on 1?

Would Faulkner or Gunner still be county players if they came through now? Yes absolutely.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dreadnought on July 07, 2022, 07:50:53 AM
How we feeling for Saturday folks? And how on earth has Cassidy got this game. I thought we'd never see him again after that performance 2 years ago...
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on July 07, 2022, 10:00:58 AM
Quote from: Dreadnought on July 07, 2022, 07:50:53 AM
How we feeling for Saturday folks? And how on earth has Cassidy got this game. I thought we'd never see him again after that performance 2 years ago...

I think it will be a different type of game than the semi final, more like the 2nd half against Fermanagh with us getting a few more men behind the ball when they have possession. I think Westmeath look poor enough at the back bar their Full Back who looks like a top player. So I am going to say we can win by 2 or 3 points.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dreadnought on July 08, 2022, 11:48:22 AM
Quote from: Itchy on July 07, 2022, 10:00:58 AM
Quote from: Dreadnought on July 07, 2022, 07:50:53 AM
How we feeling for Saturday folks? And how on earth has Cassidy got this game. I thought we'd never see him again after that performance 2 years ago...

I think it will be a different type of game than the semi final, more like the 2nd half against Fermanagh with us getting a few more men behind the ball when they have possession. I think Westmeath look poor enough at the back bar their Full Back who looks like a top player. So I am going to say we can win by 2 or 3 points.

I think so too. One good thing from the semis is that it has tempered expectations a wee bit. We know that we won't walk this and have had things to work on, while Westmeath might also think they're a bit better than they are. Any other day we'd get a few goals out of all the chances we had, and can't see Westmeath getting so many of those chances they got. So for me, gives for a very even game. Faulkner will be back fit after playing while ill the last day, and rarely our defence has 2 bad games in a row. We have the forwards and can kick a high % of points. I'm nervously confident for this, we've had work to do the last few weeks, a 3rd game this year in Croker, so might see us doing the job. think we'll see it off by 3 too.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dreadnought on July 08, 2022, 10:26:43 PM
https://twitter.com/CavanCoBoardGaa/status/1545518447710375937?t=slAkzrgNhi1ooaVjrgECjw&s=19 (https://twitter.com/CavanCoBoardGaa/status/1545518447710375937?t=slAkzrgNhi1ooaVjrgECjw&s=19)

Team named. We're strong anyway. Holla on the bench, and we're decent there so have options. Looking forward to tomorrow!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Look-Up! on July 14, 2022, 01:09:53 PM
 Very disappointing last Saturday. Westmeath had us well sussed out and got their matchups spot on. Much the more positive team in their approach to game and how they moved the ball. We on the other hand reverted to type- slow, unadventurous, risk adverse. Very casual in defense. In saying that we were in a good position before Galligan's brain fart as you'd expect at this level but very disappointing to see how we managed the game after that. Having no reliable free taker compounded matters of course but once again when it was put up to us our limitations were exposed. We didn't score for effectively the last 20mins and failed to make a sub after the red card for what was at least 10 minutes. Then we changed Moynagh for Fortune, which didn't really address the issues. Brought on 2 corner forwards for injury time and lumped a few balls in. Might have worked but in truth we didn't deserve any bit of luck that may have came.

Don't know what to say really or where to from here. Graham has given us some great days out and can have a bit of a flair for the big occasion and getting the matchups right, but equally when plan A falls flat there hasn't been anything I can see in the way of backup. I felt last year management weren't capable of developing the squad forward. 12 months on, and with a reshuffle and more autonomy on his part, I can't say I've changed my mind despite a few green shoots. 
If he stays or if we get someone in, and that's another gamble, I'd like to see some fresh blood in this team and a fire lit under it. We've lost our verve. Players who once made things happen have either left the panel, are injured or just playing it safe. And we need 20 lads up to speed and we need management to make the changes when needed, regardless of their name. If you don't perform your position should not be safe.
I ask myself what changes I would have made last weekend and in truth I haven't a clue. For the first time ever following Cavan I can't answer. We've seen so little of anyone else in any meaningful scenario. Team picks itself and has done for a long time. All the while failing badly in Division 3 and flapping in Division 4. I hope that at least dispels the nonsense that league doesn't matter.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on July 15, 2022, 09:01:55 AM
Almost a week on and I can only think now that we've gone backwards as a county since 2020 which is a huge disappointment to me given we have players who have shown they are better than that. I think it's time to freshen things up. Whether mickey decides to stay or go we need a serious tactical adjustment and I think Johnston and Ricey should definitely we jettisoned as both have failed miserably to improve our forward and defensive displays even at Div4 level this year. Personally I don't think either should have ever been brought in, especially Johnston who was poisonous in the camp as a player. I can imagine a number of players could hang up their boots now too, see Gearoid and Donna had a baby boy the other day so again big ask to commit again for gearoid. Martin reilly has young family too and is a man who gave everything. I'm sure there are others.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: marty34 on July 15, 2022, 09:48:22 AM
Quote from: Look-Up! on July 14, 2022, 01:09:53 PM
Very disappointing last Saturday. Westmeath had us well sussed out and got their matchups spot on. Much the more positive team in their approach to game and how they moved the ball. We on the other hand reverted to type- slow, unadventurous, risk adverse. Very casual in defense. In saying that we were in a good position before Galligan's brain fart as you'd expect at this level but very disappointing to see how we managed the game after that. Having no reliable free taker compounded matters of course but once again when it was put up to us our limitations were exposed. We didn't score for effectively the last 20mins and failed to make a sub after the red card for what was at least 10 minutes. Then we changed Moynagh for Fortune, which didn't really address the issues. Brought on 2 corner forwards for injury time and lumped a few balls in. Might have worked but in truth we didn't deserve any bit of luck that may have came.

Don't know what to say really or where to from here. Graham has given us some great days out and can have a bit of a flair for the big occasion and getting the matchups right, but equally when plan A falls flat there hasn't been anything I can see in the way of backup. I felt last year management weren't capable of developing the squad forward. 12 months on, and with a reshuffle and more autonomy on his part, I can't say I've changed my mind despite a few green shoots. 
If he stays or if we get someone in, and that's another gamble, I'd like to see some fresh blood in this team and a fire lit under it. We've lost our verve. Players who once made things happen have either left the panel, are injured or just playing it safe. And we need 20 lads up to speed and we need management to make the changes when needed, regardless of their name. If you don't perform your position should not be safe.
I ask myself what changes I would have made last weekend and in truth I haven't a clue. For the first time ever following Cavan I can't answer. We've seen so little of anyone else in any meaningful scenario. Team picks itself and has done for a long time. All the while failing badly in Division 3 and flapping in Division 4. I hope that at least dispels the nonsense that league doesn't matter.

Big thing was the sending off though. Literally it changed the game. Cavan were well in at that stage so I wouldn't be too pessimistic.

That run will have helped them in getting ready for Div. 3 in 2023. Get another player or two and a bit of S&C now until next year and go at it again.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on July 15, 2022, 12:08:33 PM
Quote from: marty34 on July 15, 2022, 09:48:22 AM
Quote from: Look-Up! on July 14, 2022, 01:09:53 PM
Very disappointing last Saturday. Westmeath had us well sussed out and got their matchups spot on. Much the more positive team in their approach to game and how they moved the ball. We on the other hand reverted to type- slow, unadventurous, risk adverse. Very casual in defense. In saying that we were in a good position before Galligan's brain fart as you'd expect at this level but very disappointing to see how we managed the game after that. Having no reliable free taker compounded matters of course but once again when it was put up to us our limitations were exposed. We didn't score for effectively the last 20mins and failed to make a sub after the red card for what was at least 10 minutes. Then we changed Moynagh for Fortune, which didn't really address the issues. Brought on 2 corner forwards for injury time and lumped a few balls in. Might have worked but in truth we didn't deserve any bit of luck that may have came.

Don't know what to say really or where to from here. Graham has given us some great days out and can have a bit of a flair for the big occasion and getting the matchups right, but equally when plan A falls flat there hasn't been anything I can see in the way of backup. I felt last year management weren't capable of developing the squad forward. 12 months on, and with a reshuffle and more autonomy on his part, I can't say I've changed my mind despite a few green shoots. 
If he stays or if we get someone in, and that's another gamble, I'd like to see some fresh blood in this team and a fire lit under it. We've lost our verve. Players who once made things happen have either left the panel, are injured or just playing it safe. And we need 20 lads up to speed and we need management to make the changes when needed, regardless of their name. If you don't perform your position should not be safe.
I ask myself what changes I would have made last weekend and in truth I haven't a clue. For the first time ever following Cavan I can't answer. We've seen so little of anyone else in any meaningful scenario. Team picks itself and has done for a long time. All the while failing badly in Division 3 and flapping in Division 4. I hope that at least dispels the nonsense that league doesn't matter.

Big thing was the sending off though. Literally it changed the game. Cavan were well in at that stage so I wouldn't be too pessimistic.

That run will have helped them in getting ready for Div. 3 in 2023. Get another player or two and a bit of S&C now until next year and go at it again.

Yes they were in the game but were playing crap. Also, I'd expect a bit more even down to 14 players and it wasn't the extra man that allowed Martin to walk past 5/6 defenders to goal. Cavan have been poor  this year (and last).
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on July 15, 2022, 12:34:11 PM
I'm fairly happy with where we are at as an attacking unit. I think we have seen a huge improvement in this championship and it has been sustained since the Antrim game. We were too slow on Sunday but that looked to be a mix of a lethargy that affected us all over the field and a "patient game management" approach. Paddy Lynch has the quality to hold down that 14 position for years, James Smith if given time and coaching has the tools to be a real nuisance in there too. The supporting cast needs improvement but hopefully Caoimhin McGovern or Darragh Lovett could step in and contribute as a corner forward.

Defensively, we have been terrible. There doesn't seem to be the required work rate or hunger for making the game difficult for the opposition attack. Gunner may be gone after this year, Faulkner is now a full back who can be got at by average full forwards, Moynagh is a target for pacey forwards.. We need to get a new defensive unit together. Our attack isn't going to blow anyone away so we really need to be building our game on a mean defence.

I hope Graham stays. He has a knack of getting big championship performances. He's keeping a happy squad with low player turnover. Most importantly, he's a Cavan man and he has one eye on the future. He brings in young lads to blood them with a view to having them on the team a couple of years down the road. We don't want some big name short termer from outside the county who's looking to win a Division 2 title to justify his wages and doesn't care what happens to Cavan after his 3 years are up.

The lads put in a great year and deserve huge credit. Pity they couldn't have ended it with a bit more silverware but if they stick at it and keep knocking on the door, there will be more for them.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on July 15, 2022, 01:40:44 PM
I seldom disagree with you westside but I cannot agree that our forward unit is something to be happy about, especially when you consider we've been trying to be less defensive (more open at the back,) and more attacking.

Our scores this season, many against very poor opposition...

0-12  v Leitrim (4pt win)
0-17 v wexford (6pt win)
0-19 v Carlow (4 pt win)
1-13 v Sligo (6 pt win and lucky goal)
1-7 v Tipp (4pt loss)
1-15 v London (1pt win hanging on)
3-21 v Waterford (20 pt win)
2-10 v Tipp ( 1 pt win)

1-20 v Antrim (13 pt win)
0-16 v Donegal (6 pt loss)

0-24 v Down (9 pt win)
2-16 v Fermanagh (9 pt win)
0-20 v Sligo (3 pt win)
1-13 v Westmeath (4 pt loss)
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on July 15, 2022, 02:25:47 PM
I think a lot of those scores are reasonably impressive. A lot of the league was awful. We got leads, sat on them and went into "game management" mode. Since the start of the Championship we haven't dropped below 16 points, have got 20 or above in 4 games. Do we have the individual attackers to do much better? I don't think so.

I'm not saying it's perfect but I think that Lynch and Smith are giving us more of a shape than we have had before under Graham, Gearoid is still contributing as much as ever, Gerry Smith has become a dangerous attacking option. We still need someone like Mackey who can find the passes to unlock a massed defence. Our free taking isn't good enough. Overall i'm more positive about our attack than I was last year.

For me the real issue both last year against Wicklow and this year against Carlow, London, Sligo and Westmeath was the defence. Faulkner has got skinned in 4 of those games. But it's a bigger issue than Faulkner. Failure to put pressure on the ball out the field, failure to put in the hard yards to cover a run, taking the easy option and diving into tackles rather than making an honest effort to put pressure on the attacker.. It's been really poor.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on July 15, 2022, 04:16:53 PM
Quote from: Westside on July 15, 2022, 02:25:47 PM
I think a lot of those scores are reasonably impressive. A lot of the league was awful. We got leads, sat on them and went into "game management" mode. Since the start of the Championship we haven't dropped below 16 points, have got 20 or above in 4 games. Do we have the individual attackers to do much better? I don't think so.

I'm not saying it's perfect but I think that Lynch and Smith are giving us more of a shape than we have had before under Graham, Gearoid is still contributing as much as ever, Gerry Smith has become a dangerous attacking option. We still need someone like Mackey who can find the passes to unlock a massed defence. Our free taking isn't good enough. Overall i'm more positive about our attack than I was last year.

For me the real issue both last year against Wicklow and this year against Carlow, London, Sligo and Westmeath was the defence. Faulkner has got skinned in 4 of those games. But it's a bigger issue than Faulkner. Failure to put pressure on the ball out the field, failure to put in the hard yards to cover a run, taking the easy option and diving into tackles rather than making an honest effort to put pressure on the attacker.. It's been really poor.

The defensive frailties are a result of committing more mem forward, reducing cover for faulkner and Gunner. Wed want to be regularly over 20 points a game and a few a goals to justify that and we simply aren't. I do not consider this a good year, we've been poor in both directions in my opinion.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on July 15, 2022, 07:06:20 PM
I think that's oversimplifying it Itchy. We might have been more stable at the back with more cover but Faulkner and Gunner have frequently failed to even hold their own against only half decent forwards. Look at job the Sligo full back did on Paddy Lynch, when did we last see Faulkner wrap up a man like that? For Westmeath's goal we had loads of cover back there and they let him waltz his way through. Both Donegal goals weren't caused by lack of cover. We nearly lost the London game through sloppy defending. Same against Wexford. The only game I could point to that we lost because of a problem in attack was the Tipp game in the league.

If someone told me at the start of the year that we'd average over 20 points a game in the Championship and unearth a top quality forward, I'd bite their hand off.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Look-Up! on July 16, 2022, 01:21:09 AM
 There's a serious rebuilding job coming up one way or another. Whether this management is up to the task is a big if. 4 years in and we barely have subs. If we're really honest, when it comes to the crunch, they don't trust our bench and use it very sparingly. Westside mentioned game management mode, getting your nose in front and containing the game. It's Division 4! If you're afraid to try something different here then you can forget about championship.
I think we've stagnated on the squad front and lost a few years. Management's hand will most likely be forced due to retirements. But I'd also worry some of the younger lads may be getting fed up with the huge inputs but lack of opportunity. If they are to turn this around a big shift in philosophy is required.   
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on July 16, 2022, 07:16:09 PM
Mickey also has to contend with a lack of talent coming through. After 2017 things fell off a cliff for us underage. McEvoy and McGovern were two of the best from the last few years and he was deprived of both of those after blooding them. Oisin Brady it seems can't stay fit. That's 3 lads that he clearly had his eye on including at the start of 2021 that he's deprived of.

I agree Look-Up there's a big rebuilding job coming. Personally I think Mickey could be up to it. I like the approach he's taken with young players. They've been usually included with lots of experience around them. He's successfully brought through Lynch, James Smith, Conor Brady. Cian Reilly and Oisin Brady have also been given their shot in big games under Graham.

You would hope that we will soon see the benefits of Andre Quinn and that the physical development of the U20s will allow them to slot into the senior squad with less of a transition period. Hopefully we will see the likes of Cian Reilly, Cormac McKeogh, Cathan Leddy come in and sure up our defensive options.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Look-Up! on July 18, 2022, 12:53:13 AM
Crosserlough v Gaels final. Should be a good indication of championship form. Mullahoran v Arva div 2. Div 3 Templeport v Drumalee. 
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Look-Up! on July 27, 2022, 01:24:34 AM
Mullahoran Division 2 champions via penalty shootout and Templeport win Division 3.

Big game in Crosskeys Sunday, a precursor for the first round of the championship.

Should make for a great game. Both teams you'd imagine will be pretty much full strength and looking to make waves later on in year. No better way to start a campaign than picking up a bit of silverware. Nice crowd should be expected and make for a cosy atmosphere.

Championship first rounds for next month
Bridge v Laragh
Xlough v Gaels
Lavey v Lacken
Mullahoran v Ballinagh
Gowna v Killygarry
Kingscourt v Ramor

Some tidy match ups in there.




Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on August 02, 2022, 10:07:48 AM
Some scoring in the league final. Poor Gearoid scores 3-14 and still loses, unbelievable.

I see that McVeety played for the lough, anyone know is he sticking around now or away again?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mrdeeds on August 02, 2022, 11:06:27 AM
He's sticking around.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on August 02, 2022, 06:02:47 PM
A barely believable tally from Gearoid.

I was a bit surprised at Pierce Smith over throwing digs at Gearoid after the winning score. Thought he seemed like a lad with more sense.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Look-Up! on August 04, 2022, 06:47:59 PM
Gearoid a big handful for anyone when he gets the service. Crosserlough had no one to handle him in a very open game. I'd imagine the championship game mightn't be as open. With a cup in the bag, Patrick Lynch to come back and McVeety to improve the Lough should be very happy going into championship. Still question marks over them in their tenancy to let teams back into it but they are still formidable opponents. First round game very important now for both teams. No matter who you are you lose the first one you're under pressure straight away and sweating on the draw a bit.   
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on August 08, 2022, 11:28:38 PM
Mickey Graham signs up for another 2 years.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Blowitupref on August 09, 2022, 12:07:46 AM
Quote from: Itchy on August 08, 2022, 11:28:38 PM
Mickey Graham signs up for another 2 years.

Cavan supporters happy enough with that or wanted to see a fresh approach? rare enough for any manager to see past 3 or 4 years with any county team nowadays.  McGeeney Armagh,Collins Clare some of the few that are given an extended period of time in their roles.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: marty34 on August 09, 2022, 08:59:45 AM
Quote from: Blowitupref on August 09, 2022, 12:07:46 AM
Quote from: Itchy on August 08, 2022, 11:28:38 PM
Mickey Graham signs up for another 2 years.

Cavan supporters happy enough with that or wanted to see a fresh approach? rare enough for any manager to see past 3 or 4 years with any county team nowadays.  McGeeney Armagh,Collins Clare some of the few that are given an extended period of time in their roles.

Maybe that's the way to go, instead of 2 years, new manager, 2 years, another new manager etc.

Bit of continunity instead of the quick turn around and quick fix.

I wonder give county boards a say, 2 year plan?

E.g. in first year our aim is to finish 4 in NFL and win first championship game and second year our target is get promoted etc. Like a business type plan.

Anybody know?

Or is it just you have it for 2 years, see how you get on.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Look-Up! on August 09, 2022, 11:45:04 AM
I'd say it's a mixed bag from Cavan fans. Some happy to see him stay, some not so much. Personally I think he's a poor IC manager overall but there is no obvious replacement. Either way the most important thing is that he has the full backing of the players. It would be interesting to know what the reaction from players would be if it was put to them like with the previous two managers. Doesn't look like this was bothered with which is a worry but maybe not as big a worry as some of the replacement rumours I heard.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on August 09, 2022, 03:57:21 PM
I think after 3 years done and things have gone stale that he should have gone and gone with a fairly decent legacy left behind him. I think a poor year next year and he will start to ruin his legacy. Now that been said, who was the alternative. I see a couple of really poor appointments already this year (Antrim and Meath, Mayo likely to go with McStay would be another) so only change the manager if you have a better alternative. We dont seem to have one. I hope he gets rid of Johnston and Ricey from his back room team as both are not up to it but no doubt he wont and that could be his downfall.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Look-Up! on August 09, 2022, 05:58:08 PM
 If you believe the rumours Bonner was the number 1 target if he left. Plausible I suppose but not exactly awe inspiring. Anyway 2 more years it is but there is absolutely no way IMO he will see that out if we have another annus horribilis. I'll not use the word "minimum requirement" as it's meaningless going on last few years with no consequences for failure to achieve it, but it would be great to get to Division 2 next year. Falling short of that it depends on performances. If we fall just short with green shoots but some bad luck thrown in then that's forgivable. Maybe redemption in TC. But if we find ourselves in a relegation scare or God forbid back in Division 4 then we need rid ASAP and start the long overdue rebuild. I think we need to focus on the league first and foremost and forget this BS that was peddled that it doesn't matter. The league is a massive reflection on the health of your squad and it's strength in depth. In this regard we have free-falled very badly last 4 years.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on September 12, 2022, 11:55:29 AM
Are we deluding our selves about how good we are?  The armagh senior final was on TG4 yesterday and do we have players who wouldn't look outt  of place playing in that game?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on September 12, 2022, 12:28:52 PM
Quote from: Denn Forever on September 12, 2022, 11:55:29 AM
Are we deluding our selves about how good we are?  The armagh senior final was on TG4 yesterday and do we have players who wouldn't look outt  of place playing in that game?

Population of Armagh = 175k with 44 clubs (1 club to 3.9k)
Population of Cavan = 81k with 40 clubs (1 club to 2k)

Probably the biggest reason our clubs dont stand up well against other counties is because we've got a diluted club scene
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mrdeeds on September 12, 2022, 12:59:00 PM
Quote from: Denn Forever on September 12, 2022, 11:55:29 AM
Are we deluding our selves about how good we are?  The armagh senior final was on TG4 yesterday and do we have players who wouldn't look outt  of place playing in that game?

Wasn't a final.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dreadnought on September 28, 2022, 04:19:23 PM
Quote from: Itchy on September 12, 2022, 12:28:52 PM
Quote from: Denn Forever on September 12, 2022, 11:55:29 AM
Are we deluding our selves about how good we are?  The armagh senior final was on TG4 yesterday and do we have players who wouldn't look outt  of place playing in that game?

Population of Armagh = 175k with 44 clubs (1 club to 3.9k)
Population of Cavan = 81k with 40 clubs (1 club to 2k)

Probably the biggest reason our clubs dont stand up well against other counties is because we've got a diluted club scene

I do agree we have too many clubs, but Armagh with a city and a lot of the other persuaion there, that ratio would come down a lot with who actually is involved in GAA.

We do need to get to 35 or so clubs. Sounds harsh, but likes of Maghera, some clubs in West Cavan and some others could easily merge or be absorbed going forward. We'd have 3 better Championships with maybe 12 teams each. Didn't that report Cavan GAA commissioned years back (Quinn or someone?) mention that we've too many clubs and need to go down by 5 or so for population?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on September 28, 2022, 06:41:56 PM
Quote from: Dreadnought on September 28, 2022, 04:19:23 PM
Quote from: Itchy on September 12, 2022, 12:28:52 PM
Quote from: Denn Forever on September 12, 2022, 11:55:29 AM
Are we deluding our selves about how good we are?  The armagh senior final was on TG4 yesterday and do we have players who wouldn't look outt  of place playing in that game?

Population of Armagh = 175k with 44 clubs (1 club to 3.9k)
Population of Cavan = 81k with 40 clubs (1 club to 2k)

Probably the biggest reason our clubs dont stand up well against other counties is because we've got a diluted club scene

I do agree we have too many clubs, but Armagh with a city and a lot of the other persuaion there, that ratio would come down a lot with who actually is involved in GAA.

We do need to get to 35 or so clubs. Sounds harsh, but likes of Maghera, some clubs in West Cavan and some others could easily merge or be absorbed going forward. We'd have 3 better Championships with maybe 12 teams each. Didn't that report Cavan GAA commissioned years back (Quinn or someone?) mention that we've too many clubs and need to go down by 5 or so for population?

What's Arnagh having a city got to do with anything and it's only a city in name anyway, much smaller than say Dundalk down the road. Yes if you exclude protestants from the calculation the ratio would change but why would you do that.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Cavan19 on September 29, 2022, 12:10:50 PM
Quote from: Dreadnought on September 28, 2022, 04:19:23 PM
Quote from: Itchy on September 12, 2022, 12:28:52 PM
Quote from: Denn Forever on September 12, 2022, 11:55:29 AM
Are we deluding our selves about how good we are?  The armagh senior final was on TG4 yesterday and do we have players who wouldn't look outt  of place playing in that game?

Population of Armagh = 175k with 44 clubs (1 club to 3.9k)
Population of Cavan = 81k with 40 clubs (1 club to 2k)

Probably the biggest reason our clubs dont stand up well against other counties is because we've got a diluted club scene

I do agree we have too many clubs, but Armagh with a city and a lot of the other persuaion there, that ratio would come down a lot with who actually is involved in GAA.

We do need to get to 35 or so clubs. Sounds harsh, but likes of Maghera, some clubs in West Cavan and some others could easily merge or be absorbed going forward. We'd have 3 better Championships with maybe 12 teams each. Didn't that report Cavan GAA commissioned years back (Quinn or someone?) mention that we've too many clubs and need to go down by 5 or so for population?

Can i ask how you feel the championships would be better if we had less clubs?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on September 29, 2022, 01:00:20 PM
Quote from: Dreadnought on September 28, 2022, 04:19:23 PM
Quote from: Itchy on September 12, 2022, 12:28:52 PM
Quote from: Denn Forever on September 12, 2022, 11:55:29 AM
Are we deluding our selves about how good we are?  The armagh senior final was on TG4 yesterday and do we have players who wouldn't look outt  of place playing in that game?

Population of Armagh = 175k with 44 clubs (1 club to 3.9k)
Population of Cavan = 81k with 40 clubs (1 club to 2k)

Probably the biggest reason our clubs dont stand up well against other counties is because we've got a diluted club scene

I do agree we have too many clubs, but Armagh with a city and a lot of the other persuaion there, that ratio would come down a lot with who actually is involved in GAA.

We do need to get to 35 or so clubs. Sounds harsh, but likes of Maghera, some clubs in West Cavan and some others could easily merge or be absorbed going forward. We'd have 3 better Championships with maybe 12 teams each. Didn't that report Cavan GAA commissioned years back (Quinn or someone?) mention that we've too many clubs and need to go down by 5 or so for population?

You can only laugh when people come out with stuff like this. You've gone so far as to say it can be done "easily" Have you seen or heard what went on in Swad and Corlough over the last 3 years? Clubs don't want to merge, clubs don't want to absorb their neighbours nor be absorbed. There are people who would rather send their children to play in neighbouring counties rather than send them down the road to play for their neighbours. It's about the furthest thing from easy that you can get.

This whole notion that amalgamating a few small clubs around the county will drastically improve the standards is a myth. Is there any reliable research or data to suggest that counties with a lower amount of clubs per population are more successful in provincial club championships or intercounty football?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Cavan19 on September 29, 2022, 02:09:55 PM
Quote from: Westside on September 29, 2022, 01:00:20 PM
Quote from: Dreadnought on September 28, 2022, 04:19:23 PM
Quote from: Itchy on September 12, 2022, 12:28:52 PM
Quote from: Denn Forever on September 12, 2022, 11:55:29 AM
Are we deluding our selves about how good we are?  The armagh senior final was on TG4 yesterday and do we have players who wouldn't look outt  of place playing in that game?

Population of Armagh = 175k with 44 clubs (1 club to 3.9k)
Population of Cavan = 81k with 40 clubs (1 club to 2k)

Probably the biggest reason our clubs dont stand up well against other counties is because we've got a diluted club scene

I do agree we have too many clubs, but Armagh with a city and a lot of the other persuaion there, that ratio would come down a lot with who actually is involved in GAA.

We do need to get to 35 or so clubs. Sounds harsh, but likes of Maghera, some clubs in West Cavan and some others could easily merge or be absorbed going forward. We'd have 3 better Championships with maybe 12 teams each. Didn't that report Cavan GAA commissioned years back (Quinn or someone?) mention that we've too many clubs and need to go down by 5 or so for population?


This whole notion that amalgamating a few small clubs around the county will drastically improve the standards is a myth. Is there any reliable research or data to suggest that counties with a lower amount of clubs per population are more successful in provincial club championships or intercounty football?

I agree with this.

If Maghera decide to pack it the club that there players would go to is probably Munterconnaught and would still leave them a middle of the road Junior team.  Anyone they have that is any addition and Ramor would look for them which wouldn't necessarily make Ramor stronger either.  As mentioned Swad and Corolugh experiment did not work.

Once a club has sufficient numbers to keep going they are going to battle on and if it comes to a stage where a club can't field the players will go to neighboring teams but it wont be amalgamations.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Look-Up! on September 29, 2022, 06:54:40 PM
I don't think there should be a hard and fast approach to amalgamations at underage. Numbers in smaller clubs can vary drastically year to year. If a club has the numbers to field, and facilities are there locally, you're always better getting as many youngsters playing as possible. If they have insufficient numbers on a particular year then an amalgamation is the way to go.
Regarding senior, I would like to see a Kerry model where there is a separate county championship where every club is involved to make up 12-16 teams, maybe 6 stand alone senior clubs and the rest amalgamations. You still keep senior, intermediate and junior club competitions to run separately.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on October 01, 2022, 10:28:12 PM
Very exciting and well contested semi final this evening. Great to see it on RTE, a super game for any neutrals who tuned in.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on October 02, 2022, 12:16:25 AM
It was exciting stuff but I thought the quality wasn't amazing overall. Gowna were much the better side and Crosserlough were blessed to still be in the game going down the stretch. Smith, apart from two big moments was anonymous for the rest of the game, Lynch wasn't at the races. McVeety did well.

Gowna have the best squad in the county. I thought Ryan Brady was excellent, Conor Casey probably the best player on the field. Conor Madden frustrating as usual but got two big scores. The Maddens are playing well too. They will be very hard to beat in a final. A big outpouring of joy at the final whistle was surprising and maybe betrayed the fact that they saw this as the biggest hurdle in the search for a county title, which is obviously a dangerous mindset and a difficult one to dismiss once it gets into a team's psyche.

Crosserlough look to be struggling a bit for hunger. Long county seasons probably didn't do Lynch and Smith any favours. They will still be in the shakeup for the foreseeable.

Hopefully Killygarry win tomorrow otherwise we'll be in for a dour final.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on October 02, 2022, 05:51:51 PM
Great to see Killygarry win, should make for a good final. 
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on October 18, 2022, 07:56:18 AM
Gowna, have to do better than Mullinaghta,  Be good to see a Cavan team do well in the Ulster club champion ship.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Blue in hope on November 18, 2022, 02:55:04 PM
Cavan NFL Div 3 2023
Round 1 V Westmeath away
          2 V Longford    home
          3  V Tipperary Home
          4 V Offaly    Away
          5 V Down  home
          6  v Antrim Away
          7 V  Fermanagh  Home   
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on November 18, 2022, 08:28:55 PM
Hear Johnston is gone from the back room team. That's some good news at least - should never have been let anywhere near it.

I also hear Mcvitty is back in along with Caoimhin Mcgovern  and Conor Rehil amongst others which is great news too.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dreadnought on January 09, 2023, 03:37:42 PM
Happy New Year all. New season started off with a win, as expected. Some experienced players sprinkled throughout, with squad players and debuts across the place too. Great to see McVeety and Holla back playing well. But have to see who the opposition are, Wednesday will be better to see. Anyone make the trip?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on January 10, 2023, 09:45:13 AM
Quote from: Dreadnought on January 09, 2023, 03:37:42 PM
Happy New Year all. New season started off with a win, as expected. Some experienced players sprinkled throughout, with squad players and debuts across the place too. Great to see McVeety and Holla back playing well. But have to see who the opposition are, Wednesday will be better to see. Anyone make the trip?

I watched it on Ulster GAA stream. Yeh they did ok and thought Oisin Brady had a very decent game. Not sure about Ryan O Neill, gets on ball but wasted it i thought. The big man from Ramor in the middle did ok but in the end it was the old reliables who ran the show. Antrim looked really poor although I am sure they had a few players held back to.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dreadnought on January 11, 2023, 10:02:30 PM
Good win tonight. Strong Armagh team first half, and we kept level with them, even with the poor kick out for our goal. Did a lot well, and were able to pull away very well when they looked disrupted 2nd half with all the subs. Lot of things good, few things to work on, great to get to a semi for a further game. First since 2016 I think. Tyrone at home on Saturday evening, as some Tyrone clubs have All Ireland club finals on Sunday. Yes it's McKenna Cup, but great to see the lads push and get a win here.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Look-Up! on January 12, 2023, 12:04:50 AM
Tough conditions, lads look in decent shape. Armagh looked sloppy 2nd half but great to get the extra game. It'll be a few league games in before we really know how we're shaping up but just wouldn't be full of confidence yet that we'll have the firepower up front to go comfortably up to D2.
Hard to call a first team yet too, some lads getting on, some to come back in and a good few inexperienced faces. Would be nice to think we'd be competing D2 next year after a rebuild, that would be great progress. Going one better in the TC would be nice too. I feel that's our level for this year. Can't see us putting back to back wins in Ulster against, probably, Armagh and Donegal.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Look-Up! on January 14, 2023, 07:59:33 PM
Another good run out for Cavan, not too pushed in missing out on extra game. Time to focus on league. Looks like there will be lots of competition right up to half forwards. After that it gets tricky. Expect us to be laboured enough in the scoring stakes with lots of chopping and changing to find best and long term solution.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Look-Up! on January 26, 2023, 02:52:21 PM
From our perspective hard to know where we stand for Sunday. McKiernan, Lynch and James Smith not available apparently. Even if they do a Lazarus they'd be very ring rusty. That's a lot of drive and scoring threat gone from our team. Plus side though we have some young lads showed well in McKenna Cup and you'd hope they'll step up. McVeety and Ciaran Brady back and looking fit a huge plus. Natural leadership we sorely missed when they were missing. Expect a tough physical battle with WH. Defensively we'll have to be on top of our game because I don't see us running up a big sore. Be very happy with narrow win (need to keep them below 13 points), but I have a feeling it will be a draw.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dreadnought on January 30, 2023, 08:40:27 AM
Really good win yesterday. Sure we had our wobble mid way through the 2nd half, but had a lead built up, and were able to see things off and push again to wrap this up. Very well done in wintery conditions on a tight field. By god was it good to see a fully fit Holla Brady and a returning McVeety ruling things from half back. These 2 lads were badly missed last few years and look like different gravy at this level. 6 debuts yesterday, and inexperience was seen at times, but did quite well otherwise. Westmeath had a stronger panel, but we strangled them out of it for most of the game. Finnegan and Carolan were very good at corner back. Ryan O'Neill is a very sticky forward, wins most ball that goes to him and took his few scores well. Very happy with this in those conditions, and now we go to Tipp and a run of home games. Should be winning this and pushing on through this division.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on January 30, 2023, 10:57:24 AM
I felt like Ryan O'Neill was feeling a bit of pressure to get on the scoreboard. With more confidence I'd have fancied him to get a goal from that first opportunity. He took the second mark brilliantly and handled the pressure to hammer it over from 45 metres. If he keeps winning ball like that he'll make it very hard for Mickey to drop him.

Oisin Brady didn't have the impact that he did in the McKenna Cup, found it harder to make space to get a shot off. Perhaps he was flagged for special attention, hopefully as players come back he will find more room in there.

Overall I'd describe our forward unit as functional at best yesterday. Still a lot of hesitancy, I would imagine conversion rate is being hammered into them but that shouldn't come at the cost of taking a shot when it's on. Lynch getting time is great, he'll need to keep the head down as he is a marked man now and could easy suffer from some 'second season' syndrome.

Tipperary slaughtered us at midfield last year in the League in Breffni and with Smith, Gearoid, Conor Brady all injured and Galligan gone, we are probably looking at a 5th choice centerfielder partnering Clarke. I'd like to see David Brady getting a run there, I think he has a higher ceiling than any of the other newbies.

On another note, that was some attendance for first round of the league? Also not sure if the Cavan crowd was larger or just more vocal but I thought the support was excellent and the players fed off it.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Cavan19 on January 30, 2023, 11:28:21 AM
Quote from: Westside on January 30, 2023, 10:57:24 AM
I felt like Ryan O'Neill was feeling a bit of pressure to get on the scoreboard. With more confidence I'd have fancied him to get a goal from that first opportunity. He took the second mark brilliantly and handled the pressure to hammer it over from 45 metres. If he keeps winning ball like that he'll make it very hard for Mickey to drop him.

Oisin Brady didn't have the impact that he did in the McKenna Cup, found it harder to make space to get a shot off. Perhaps he was flagged for special attention, hopefully as players come back he will find more room in there.

Overall I'd describe our forward unit as functional at best yesterday. Still a lot of hesitancy, I would imagine conversion rate is being hammered into them but that shouldn't come at the cost of taking a shot when it's on. Lynch getting time is great, he'll need to keep the head down as he is a marked man now and could easy suffer from some 'second season' syndrome.

Tipperary slaughtered us at midfield last year in the League in Breffni and with Smith, Gearoid, Conor Brady all injured and Galligan gone, we are probably looking at a 5th choice centerfielder partnering Clarke. I'd like to see David Brady getting a run there, I think he has a higher ceiling than any of the other newbies.

On another note, that was some attendance for first round of the league? Also not sure if the Cavan crowd was larger or just more vocal but I thought the support was excellent and the players fed off it.

What was the attendance there was a big Cavan crowd there alright was at least 50/50 if not a bit more in our favour.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dreadnought on January 30, 2023, 11:36:34 AM
Quote from: Westside on January 30, 2023, 10:57:24 AM
I felt like Ryan O'Neill was feeling a bit of pressure to get on the scoreboard. With more confidence I'd have fancied him to get a goal from that first opportunity. He took the second mark brilliantly and handled the pressure to hammer it over from 45 metres. If he keeps winning ball like that he'll make it very hard for Mickey to drop him.

Oisin Brady didn't have the impact that he did in the McKenna Cup, found it harder to make space to get a shot off. Perhaps he was flagged for special attention, hopefully as players come back he will find more room in there.

Overall I'd describe our forward unit as functional at best yesterday. Still a lot of hesitancy, I would imagine conversion rate is being hammered into them but that shouldn't come at the cost of taking a shot when it's on. Lynch getting time is great, he'll need to keep the head down as he is a marked man now and could easy suffer from some 'second season' syndrome.

Tipperary slaughtered us at midfield last year in the League in Breffni and with Smith, Gearoid, Conor Brady all injured and Galligan gone, we are probably looking at a 5th choice centerfielder partnering Clarke. I'd like to see David Brady getting a run there, I think he has a higher ceiling than any of the other newbies.

On another note, that was some attendance for first round of the league? Also not sure if the Cavan crowd was larger or just more vocal but I thought the support was excellent and the players fed off it.

i saw a Westmeath lad online bemoan the crowd, and said it was a sad state of affairs that Cavan outnumbered the home fans in their own stand. We did seem to bring a big crowd alright. Hope that win brings the people out for Breffni Sunday if they think we'll get on a run. Gerry Smith was just a tight muscle apparently, so should be ok for Sunday hopefully.

I thought Maguire did decently when he came on for Brady. So no harm in keeping with him. I think Tipp are there for the taking as they're missing a load of players from last year. Sweeney is reported to have a knee injury as well. We should be able to make a few changes and keep going with this.

Was a tight day for Oisin Brady alright. really good with the frees, but a tough day from play. had chances, but they didn't come off for him. He'll learn and be better the next day. The forwards can only get better, especially with getting more fitness into Lynch. He's been hard at the gym by the looks of it, as he's put on a lot of muscle. Hopefully it doesn't affect his speed and movement though, and yesterday was down to fitness only.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on January 30, 2023, 12:34:37 PM
Yeah when I came into the stand I felt like it was dominated with Blue. We were certainly more vocal but that could just be the way the game went. With it being a Bank Holiday next weekend I'd expect a big crowd in Breffni. Interesting to hear Ciaran Brady reference this in his WAC interview. Said he hoped we could get a big crowd to Breffni and they want to play football that will get the crowd on side.

I certainly felt Cavan found a better balance yesterday between game management and keeping momentum. Mickey is no fool and I think he realises the frustration from the stands when we are passing laterally has a negative impact on the team.

I thought Maguire looked like he struggled with the tempo of the game but it's his first appearance in the League and in fairness he got himself out of bother a few times and clearly has a good football brain.

Brady's freetaking is going under the radar a bit. I don't think he's missed one yet this year? I know Ray takes the big ones but nailing all scoreable frees is something we have failed to do in the past. He's also taking them from both sides with both feet. Not many lads in the country can do that.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dreadnought on January 30, 2023, 12:50:29 PM
Quote from: Westside on January 30, 2023, 12:34:37 PM
Yeah when I came into the stand I felt like it was dominated with Blue. We were certainly more vocal but that could just be the way the game went. With it being a Bank Holiday next weekend I'd expect a big crowd in Breffni. Interesting to hear Ciaran Brady reference this in his WAC interview. Said he hoped we could get a big crowd to Breffni and they want to play football that will get the crowd on side.

I certainly felt Cavan found a better balance yesterday between game management and keeping momentum. Mickey is no fool and I think he realises the frustration from the stands when we are passing laterally has a negative impact on the team.

I thought Maguire looked like he struggled with the tempo of the game but it's his first appearance in the League and in fairness he got himself out of bother a few times and clearly has a good football brain.

Brady's freetaking is going under the radar a bit. I don't think he's missed one yet this year? I know Ray takes the big ones but nailing all scoreable frees is something we have failed to do in the past. He's also taking them from both sides with both feet. Not many lads in the country can do that.

Indeed. I noted that in the McKenna cup games, he hasn't missed a free and off both feet too. Only thing is, McKiernan and Lynch will likely take these back when they return. But it is an unreal return rate from him. knowing we have that option there after we went a long time with no reliable free taker. If he just takes a few from play here and there he'll be a first name on the sheet. that'll come with work and moving onto better pitches and weather conditions into the Spring.

Word is that likes of McKiernan, James Smith, and Conor Smith with be integrated back in this week. Tipp might be too soon, but Longford 2 weeks after could be time to see them.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Cavan19 on January 30, 2023, 01:27:20 PM
I though we defended well from the front yesterday while we did let them take short kick-outs we put pressure on them straight away and didn't let them stroll up the field.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Look-Up! on January 30, 2023, 01:42:57 PM
Tipperary at home second game is as good a time as any to play them- they generally take a few games to get going.

McVeety and Holla are going to be huge for us this year. They were massive losses for us. That gain is offset a bit in other absentees but I think for the new additions these 2 are a great example of consistency and leadership. With Lynch and McKiernan to come back and O'Neill and Brady to improve (hopefully), we could have decent forward options at some stage, but I can see this campaign being managed a bit like the last time we went up from D3. Defensively focused, very intense physically, low scoring and generally very very hard to beat. If results go well then a more open and attack minded approach last couple of games with better ground conditions.

That would be enough for me anyway, D2 football is a priority. Plus finding a consistent defensive midfielder.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Look-Up! on February 05, 2023, 05:05:17 PM
Brilliant to get the result today but the performance was even more pleasing. Hard to gauge Tipp properly, and it is early days, but some very very impressive performances. McVeety was outstanding yet again. Brings that insatiable work-rate and attitude to the team that has been so sorely missing last few years. Could be coincidence but seems to be infecting some of the newcomers too.

Regardless of who you are as a team, a good start in this division is essential. So as the league settles out a bit, other teams might hit stride and we might labour but the head start we have now is so important. Couldn't ask for more at this stage. Plus we have 5 or 6 "starters" to come back into panel so competition for places should be interesting. Those jerseys might not be so easy won back and you'd hope we are on an upward trajectory.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on February 05, 2023, 05:19:08 PM
Different buzz about this Cavan team this year. They have definitely moved away from the 'game management' attitude.

Longford coming to Breffni in 2 weeks fighting for their lives. Great time to have a few players coming back.

We look good but I wouldn't take anything for granted yet.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Look-Up! on February 05, 2023, 05:41:35 PM
Yes for sure, home game to Longford at this stage looks the easiest of the fixtures on paper. Win and it gives us a great platform to push for promotion. A loss, however possible, would be disastrous and put a very different spin on things. 
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on February 05, 2023, 06:18:10 PM
Mickey has a headache in the full forward line. O'Neill and Brady can't be dropped the way they're playing but you have to make room for Lynch if he's fit.

I think at the moment Oisin Kiernan and Cian Madden are lucky to be holding onto their places.

I'd still like to see more adventure and impetus in the forward line. There's a general hesitancy in there that's preventing us from really cutting loose. Early days though.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Look-Up! on February 05, 2023, 06:42:41 PM
If McKiernan reaches full fitness you'd imagine it will be impossible to leave him out. Option anywhere in forward half.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on February 06, 2023, 09:52:59 AM
Around this time last year we were bemoaning the reliance on Gearoid for scores. As the year went on, McLoughlin and Gerry Smith came to the fore and Lynch caught fire. So it's great to be able to get through a couple of Division 3 games without pretty much all of those.

It was great to see Cavan hunting Tipp down early in the game, we put a press on their kickout after they got the goal and never looked back really. Cavan are always at their best when they are pressurising the opposition and speeding up the game. When we slow down and look over our shoulder, that's when the trouble starts.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on February 06, 2023, 09:59:28 AM
I'd say the high press approach is from James Burke.  That is how Mayo played under James Horan with Burke as coach. Oisin Brady playing really well. McVeety playing excellent. Some calls for McVeety to be played inside but with Oisin Brady playing well,Lynch returning not that necessary. Ryan O Neill also playing well inside.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on February 06, 2023, 10:43:59 AM
Quote from: Look-Up! on February 05, 2023, 06:42:41 PM
If McKiernan reaches full fitness you'd imagine it will be impossible to leave him out. Option anywhere in forward half.

I think Gearoid will be a bit like Aidan o Se for Mayo. A hugely dangerous player but difficult to find exactly where to put him. For me I'd be looking at playing him inside, he'd need 2 men to mark him. But he will need a lot of work for him to learn how to play in there.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dreadnought on February 06, 2023, 10:58:40 AM
Quote from: Itchy on February 06, 2023, 10:43:59 AM
Quote from: Look-Up! on February 05, 2023, 06:42:41 PM
If McKiernan reaches full fitness you'd imagine it will be impossible to leave him out. Option anywhere in forward half.

I think Gearoid will be a bit like Aidan o Se for Mayo. A hugely dangerous player but difficult to find exactly where to put him. For me I'd be looking at playing him inside, he'd need 2 men to mark him. But he will need a lot of work for him to learn how to play in there.

Seeing how he went for Gaels last year as an inside forward, if we can have McVeety, Smith and so on doing the work in the middle third, I'd absolutely let him inside to pick off scores like he can.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on February 06, 2023, 11:17:27 AM
We don't want Gearoid trying to gather ball inside as first reciever. Floating around the D looking for a pop pass, coming off the shoulder of the inside men, maybe looking for opportunities to isolate 1v1 for high ball or mark opportunities, I think that's where he can be used most effectively.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Look-Up! on February 06, 2023, 01:38:02 PM
He looked very versatile and at home in there for the Gaels albeit at club level. An absolute handful for anyone, doesn't look out of sorts with back to goal, physically imposing, very strong under a high ball, great feet with natural knack for scoring and movement off the ball. With proper service he would be a weapon.

Absolutely destroyed many a defence for Gaels especially Gowna last year until they got a stupid black card in the middle of the field and could no longer get their hands on the ball in that sector. Can be put off his game though with verbals and gamesmanship.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on February 06, 2023, 02:57:42 PM
Quote from: Look-Up! on February 06, 2023, 01:38:02 PM
He looked very versatile and at home in there for the Gaels albeit at club level. An absolute handful for anyone, doesn't look out of sorts with back to goal, physically imposing, very strong under a high ball, great feet with natural knack for scoring and movement off the ball. With proper service he would be a weapon.

Absolutely destroyed many a defence for Gaels especially Gowna last year until they got a stupid black card in the middle of the field and could no longer get their hands on the ball in that sector. Can be put off his game though with verbals and gamesmanship.

I think the advantages he has over club defenders are significantly lessened at county level. How many scores has he ever got at county level winning ball inside and engineering room for a shot? Not many I'd guess. His size and power make him so hard to stop when he's moving towards goal. He has a fantastic awareness of space and uncommon timing and accuracy. I think all those traits are better utilised further out the pitch.

It's definitely worth trying him there but as the year goes on things get more serious and building an attacking plan around him is a risky move in big games.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Look-Up! on February 07, 2023, 01:18:09 PM
Quote from: Westside on February 06, 2023, 02:57:42 PM
Quote from: Look-Up! on February 06, 2023, 01:38:02 PM
He looked very versatile and at home in there for the Gaels albeit at club level. An absolute handful for anyone, doesn't look out of sorts with back to goal, physically imposing, very strong under a high ball, great feet with natural knack for scoring and movement off the ball. With proper service he would be a weapon.

Absolutely destroyed many a defence for Gaels especially Gowna last year until they got a stupid black card in the middle of the field and could no longer get their hands on the ball in that sector. Can be put off his game though with verbals and gamesmanship.

I think the advantages he has over club defenders are significantly lessened at county level. How many scores has he ever got at county level winning ball inside and engineering room for a shot? Not many I'd guess. His size and power make him so hard to stop when he's moving towards goal. He has a fantastic awareness of space and uncommon timing and accuracy. I think all those traits are better utilised further out the pitch.

It's definitely worth trying him there but as the year goes on things get more serious and building an attacking plan around him is a risky move in big games.
You don't want to go putting all your eggs in one basket for sure and good delivery would be a must especially at IC. Getting the best out of him in big games is always a conundrum as he's a target for extra attention from opposition. Plus those legs are not getting any younger. But with the right on-field intelligence he could swap in and out of there and keep opponents guessing, create some confusion and opportunities.
Givney wasn't a FF till he was, and even then it took a good number of games for that to become apparent. Gearoid is a more natural fit although not nearly as aggressive.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on February 09, 2023, 09:42:34 AM
Great stat from Donohoe on the WAC podcast this week. Niall Carolan has the fastest top speed recorded at U20 level in Cavan. Presumably that's over the last 2 years. Impressive considering Darragh Lovett was on the team.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dreadnought on February 18, 2023, 11:01:49 AM
Gerry Smith in for Oisin Kiernan, otherwise rest of the team same as v Tipperary. Jack McKenna on the bench, no McKiernan, James Smith, or McLoughlin though. Still think it's a strong team and bench to see this one out. Longford will have a response in them after the bad loss to Westmeath, and will be up for a local match with us. Need to be wary, but should see this off
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Look-Up! on February 18, 2023, 11:53:53 AM
Yeah good team, Kiernan must also have picked up a knock. Not on bench. You'd really hope we win with a bit to spare. If we are to get to D2 this is one we need 2 points from. But in this division you never know.
It will be interesting to see how all the teams come back after break and will there be any significant changes in form and performance levels.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dreadnought on February 18, 2023, 01:36:27 PM
Quote from: Look-Up! on February 18, 2023, 11:53:53 AM
Yeah good team, Kiernan must also have picked up a knock. Not on bench. You'd really hope we win with a bit to spare. If we are to get to D2 this is one we need 2 points from. But in this division you never know.
It will be interesting to see how all the teams come back after break and will there be any significant changes in form and performance levels.

The WAC pod had it that Kiernan was carrying an injury into the Tipp game. Gerry coming in for him is good as a replacement and will allow him to get over any knocks. No need to risk lads too much this time of year when we've got the fellas to come in
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on February 18, 2023, 04:06:26 PM
Cavan were in a decent position in Division 2 in 2020.but then had a really flat performance against Clare and beaten in Breffni.
They need to be consistent and not take Longford for granted. They have some good forwards.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on February 18, 2023, 06:35:40 PM
I don't think this will be simple, Cavan by 2/3 points. Got to defend long balls properly and not concede goals.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Look-Up! on February 20, 2023, 05:44:40 PM
3 games in, 6 points on the board. Not too bad. Very hard to gauge where we're at based on last two games. Level of opponent looked a division lower. Either that or we're much too good for this division.

Last 4 games should provide a much stiffer test starting in Tullamore next weekend. You'd have to be confident enough going into it but I think we should have seen the last of the walkovers. Few little knocks picked up too a worry, there's a few players there we absolutely cannot afford to lose. Down and Fermanagh at home with a trip to Belfast in between, so looking forward to what should be 4 well contested games and hopefully better ground conditions. Two more wins would generally be enough for promotion and I think that's well within our ability. If we play at the level we're capable of we'll be very tough to beat for any of those 4 teams.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dreadnought on February 24, 2023, 08:42:02 AM
What's the thoughts for Sunday then? Do think we're in a good place after 3 wins, but very hard to take anything from the last 2 games. They clearly look the worst teams in the division. Saying that we put them both to the sword. Westmeath have got motoring, so hard to know about the first day if we were as good as we looked, or where they were at with a new coach and poor starting line-up. Anyway, that's not taking away from us, we've done what we've needed. Tullamore is a different proposition. We'll be down a few men it seems, maybe Paddy Lynch comes straight in for Oisin Brady as we do need a free taker. But should have more lads back. James Smith and McLoughlin might be seen from the bench as they were doing fitness work last week pre-game. We've a solid team anyway and the lads playing are going well, and can integrate returning fellas here and there as needed.

Offaly will be tougher, and have been sticky in their games so far. Westmeath only got the better of them near the end when they pulled away. That might be where we get them. I feel we're a very fit team who can last the distance. We gassed some teams early this year with our movement, and I'd think with the losses Offaly have had, their newer lads might not keep up with us on conditioning, and we'll see this off on the home stretch. It'll be good to get a battle though, it's needed. Hope we see a good travelling support, always liked going to Tullamore. Cavan by 4
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on February 24, 2023, 09:59:18 AM
I'm relatively confident we can win by 3 or 4 points but we will have to be up for it and not getting complacent which was our Achilles heel last year.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Look-Up! on February 24, 2023, 11:30:11 AM
 I'd tend to agree with those posts. I'd be reasonably confident. Offaly you'd feel are a coming team but with their loss of experience from last year, 2023 might be a year or two too early for them to really kick on. I still think they'll give us a battle and be very dangerous but you'd hope our experience, conditioning and physicality should tell last quarter. As long as we don't do something stupid like conceding a bagful of goals and leave an uphill battle. That nagging worry is still there.
Still though, for some reason looking forward to this league game more than most for a long time. Expect to see good football played and serious questions to be asked of us. And of course hope we have all the answers.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on February 24, 2023, 06:12:29 PM
Offaly need to win this game or Div 2 is almost certainly out of reach. So I would expect a very tough game down there. Remember the qualifiers a few years back, they made things very difficult and it took a Mackey masterclass to drag us over the line.

Lynch will surely start which is great, just a pity it was at the expense of Oisin Brady. If Ryan O'Neill keeps his place, we could really do with him getting a few scores on the board. Hopefully Ray can get his eye in with the frees, it's always great for keeping teams at arm's length.

I'd agree with the others on here, a tough test ahead that we should win if we have our house in order. Hopefully it's a good game, atmosphere was, understandably, very flat in Breffni for the last two games.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dreadnought on February 25, 2023, 06:08:46 PM
Fermanagh beat Antrim with 1-2 in injury time to move to 6 points. They're a handy team and battle to the end. We got them last day, so hope we've things wrapped up by then
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dreadnought on February 25, 2023, 08:19:18 PM
Team released there on twitter. Just a starting 15, no subs bench as before. Marty Reilly in for Oisin Brady, as expected he's out. Might be a few changes to that named in the program tomorrow
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dreadnought on February 25, 2023, 08:53:44 PM
Westmeath lost to Down too. That's their goose cooked you'd think. Another year in Div 3 and in Sam as Tailteann champions. You could only be annoyed at us
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on February 25, 2023, 09:14:10 PM
Down and Fermanagh both have their tails up in a big way. Pulling games out of the fire. They'll both be buzzing. Antrim are also causing everyone problems. This promotion hunt might not be as straightforward as we thought it might be.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dreadnought on February 26, 2023, 01:58:28 PM
Lynch starting instead of Marty Reilly
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on February 27, 2023, 09:28:05 AM
A good day's work yesterday. We played some great football and really made use of our superior pace and power. Great to see Lynch back and getting into form, the passing into the full forward line was excellent. O'Neill was excellent again.

There's still a lot to work on. I thought we struggled again on kickouts. Our tackling was pretty awful and that just gave oxygen to Offaly. More honesty needed. I thought Finnegan struggled. David Brady was a bit wasteful but I was happy to see him take on his shot after kicking a few wides. We fluffed several goal chances that top teams simply don't do.

The squad is shaping up nicely too, James Smith very rusty but great that he's fit. Oisin Brady back in a week or 2 according to Graham. Oisin Kiernan, Conor Brady, Conor Smith and Gearoid all still to come back.

Can't wait for the Down game now. It would be very un-Cavanlike for us to win and wrap up promotion early but we are playing well and will go in as warm favourites. Biggest game in Breffni in a few years, hopefully a huge crowd will get out and create an atmosphere.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dreadnought on February 27, 2023, 10:50:17 AM
Yeah was a good day yesterday. We looked far and away the stronger and fitter team and were always looking good to see them off here. They had to work extremely hard to get back level at 6 each, and we were able to click up another gear when needed to open a gap. Disappointing not to get a goal with at least 4 good chances. But that'll come, we tried to force it a few times, and again took points when otehr chances were on. 

Faulkner was just class. Popping up everywhere, and reading well and cutting out passes to their inside line. Clarke was an absolute menace to them. He was winding them up and was tackling and hitting hard all game. McVeety was well wrapped up be being double marked, but nice to see others stepped up too. Gerry Smith helped a lot with this work too and huge part of the team this way. Finnegan didn't have his best day, but that'll happen. Brady looks big and has a bit of fitness to come into yet you'd expect.

What can you say about Lynch? Half fit too, but the power he has in the ball. Stroking over 45m free out of the hand and still rising when going between the posts. Didn't miss a free either off either side. Overall lots of positives, with still things to work on. GMac still to come back, while getting some time into McLoughlin and James Smith.

Think a win next week practically guarantees promotion, as can't be caught on either head to head or points difference by then (barring a few huge defeats). Just need to keep at it now, integrate lads in, and be ready for rest of the year. 3 easy enough wins on the trot, and not sure how well it actually prepares us, but can only beat who you're in front of. Next 3 games a mini Ulster Championship, so can use this well too to step up as they will be gunning for us.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Look-Up! on February 27, 2023, 12:53:59 PM
 4 from 4, great stuff. Offaly nice footballing team but couldn't stay with us after half hour mark. Again hard to gauge where we're at, won a little more easily than expected although never killing the game off when it should have been long over. Still though, we've done what we've had to do so far.
Down next week. Johnsons were back at the weekend and their half hour runs had a big impact on the result and will bring them on. So definitely expect a much stiffer test than anything we've had so far. It's clear D3 games are not ideal for working on your sharpness and you can get away with a lot of wastefulness. A higher grade should iron that out. But with 3 Ulster games coming up (and possible CK appearance), hopefully we seal D2 spot without any major dramas but also are made to sharpen up considerably for championship prep.
You'd also expect competition for places to be really hotting up now with lads getting back and blowing off some of the cobwebs and injuries clearing up. That should translate to more decisiveness and less sloppiness on the pitch with a lot of championship jerseys still up for grabs. Just on injuries, were any reported after game? Did McVeety go off on his own accord before sub?

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dreadnought on February 27, 2023, 01:13:10 PM
Quote from: Look-Up! on February 27, 2023, 12:53:59 PM
4 from 4, great stuff. Offaly nice footballing team but couldn't stay with us after half hour mark. Again hard to gauge where we're at, won a little more easily than expected although never killing the game off when it should have been long over. Still though, we've done what we've had to do so far.
Down next week. Johnsons were back at the weekend and their half hour runs had a big impact on the result and will bring them on. So definitely expect a much stiffer test than anything we've had so far. It's clear D3 games are not ideal for working on your sharpness and you can get away with a lot of wastefulness. A higher grade should iron that out. But with 3 Ulster games coming up (and possible CK appearance), hopefully we seal D2 spot without any major dramas but also are made to sharpen up considerably for championship prep.
You'd also expect competition for places to be really hotting up now with lads getting back and blowing off some of the cobwebs and injuries clearing up. That should translate to more decisiveness and less sloppiness on the pitch with a lot of championship jerseys still up for grabs. Just on injuries, were any reported after game? Did McVeety go off on his own accord before sub?

McVeety to me looked like a blood sub type thing they just subbed out completely. he got caught on the head I though, so you'd imagine he'd be fine for Down on Sunday. I was surprised they left him on so long tbh. After an injury scare last week, thought they'd take him off when the game looked done and not be flogging him. I think he'll be ok though
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Look-Up! on February 27, 2023, 02:26:33 PM
Quote from: Dreadnought on February 27, 2023, 01:13:10 PM
Quote from: Look-Up! on February 27, 2023, 12:53:59 PM
4 from 4, great stuff. Offaly nice footballing team but couldn't stay with us after half hour mark. Again hard to gauge where we're at, won a little more easily than expected although never killing the game off when it should have been long over. Still though, we've done what we've had to do so far.
Down next week. Johnsons were back at the weekend and their half hour runs had a big impact on the result and will bring them on. So definitely expect a much stiffer test than anything we've had so far. It's clear D3 games are not ideal for working on your sharpness and you can get away with a lot of wastefulness. A higher grade should iron that out. But with 3 Ulster games coming up (and possible CK appearance), hopefully we seal D2 spot without any major dramas but also are made to sharpen up considerably for championship prep.
You'd also expect competition for places to be really hotting up now with lads getting back and blowing off some of the cobwebs and injuries clearing up. That should translate to more decisiveness and less sloppiness on the pitch with a lot of championship jerseys still up for grabs. Just on injuries, were any reported after game? Did McVeety go off on his own accord before sub?

McVeety to me looked like a blood sub type thing they just subbed out completely. he got caught on the head I though, so you'd imagine he'd be fine for Down on Sunday. I was surprised they left him on so long tbh. After an injury scare last week, thought they'd take him off when the game looked done and not be flogging him. I think he'll be ok though
Good stuff. He hung around on the field for photos after so sounds about right.
I suppose an Offaly goal would have put the cat amongst the pigeons at any stage so maybe they didn't want to completely pull our shape. Some of those "fresh legs" were making a lot of creaking noises.
Tullamore some setup in general. Beautiful spot for a game.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Look-Up! on March 01, 2023, 02:07:16 PM
4 games in, what's peoples' opinions on what we've seen so far?

I'm pleasantly surprised myself. Ok, hard to know exactly what level of opposition we were playing without playing everyone, but we've been a lot more free scoring and open than expected and defence has held up ok. Squad looks to have plenty of potential, pace and physique and have coped well without some stars. McVeety and Holla have been huge additions in half back line though and I'm sure has aided the full back line greatly too in looking more assured and solid.
Midfield, Conor Brady has to come back and James Smith another option, plus with what we've seen already there, we have options not without potential. Forwards are going well and looks like we've unearthed a few who will really challenge starting 15, but at the very least give us some real game changing switches off the bench.
Big Gearoid to come back too and can be really put anywhere. I feel if he and Lynch could click together at full forward line, while maybe switching/roaming in and out to keep defences guessing, we could be seriously potent. When breaking I'd like to see more movement in there, especially someone running out to the spaces in front of their sweeper (when space there) and encouraging faster ball in. I though this is one area we were poor enough in last Sunday. In Lynch's defence he was only half fit but I think if someone like McKiernan was coming out both the defender and sweeper would have to go with him.
I've heard some laments about our poor goal conversion rates. I'm not particularly worried, I'm more concerned about clean sheets. If we can keep those we'll be promoted no worries. I think the goals will come eventually. Get everyone fit and I'm sure they will.

Down on Sunday. Really hope we keep pace and see it through. For all the positivity so far, a loss here, coupled with other results, would be a huge momentum swing in the table and big question mark over our promotion hopes. But like I said, keep a clean sheet and we'll be very hard stopped in this league.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on March 01, 2023, 02:51:57 PM
Quote from: Look-Up! on March 01, 2023, 02:07:16 PM
4 games in, what's peoples' opinions on what we've seen so far?

I'm pleasantly surprised myself. Ok, hard to know exactly what level of opposition we were playing without playing everyone, but we've been a lot more free scoring and open than expected and defence has held up ok. Squad looks to have plenty of potential, pace and physique and have coped well without some stars. McVeety and Holla have been huge additions in half back line though and I'm sure has aided the full back line greatly too in looking more assured and solid.
Midfield, Conor Brady has to come back and James Smith another option, plus with what we've seen already there, we have options not without potential. Forwards are going well and looks like we've unearthed a few who will really challenge starting 15, but at the very least give us some real game changing switches off the bench.
Big Gearoid to come back too and can be really put anywhere. I feel if he and Lynch could click together at full forward line, while maybe switching/roaming in and out to keep defences guessing, we could be seriously potent. When breaking I'd like to see more movement in there, especially someone running out to the spaces in front of their sweeper (when space there) and encouraging faster ball in. I though this is one area we were poor enough in last Sunday. In Lynch's defence he was only half fit but I think if someone like McKiernan was coming out both the defender and sweeper would have to go with him.
I've heard some laments about our poor goal conversion rates. I'm not particularly worried, I'm more concerned about clean sheets. If we can keep those we'll be promoted no worries. I think the goals will come eventually. Get everyone fit and I'm sure they will.

Down on Sunday. Really hope we keep pace and see it through. For all the positivity so far, a loss here, coupled with other results, would be a huge momentum swing in the table and big question mark over our promotion hopes. But like I said, keep a clean sheet and we'll be very hard stopped in this league.

Well you'd have to be happy where we sit and the thing is we can play even better I think. Are the teams in Div 3 poor this year, maybe - but I think that we are doing what good teams do to poor teams, run at them give them no respect and rip them up and do it early.
But what I like the best is that we havent really shown our hand yet, we've a number of players to come back and anyone from Armagh looking in (assuming they beat Antrim) will not learn a lot about us. On the other hand Armagh are as usual gung ho in Div 1 and everyone can see what they are at. I dont fear them at all. I think our midfield is an area where we need to work on and we could be more dominant on opposition kick outs but all in all if you told me the players we'd be missing and that wed win 4/4 at the start of the year I would have taken that any day.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dreadnought on March 01, 2023, 03:01:22 PM
Can only agree. Yes I'm concerned at the lack of goals, but when you counter that with the amount of points we have taken last 3 games, and the chances we are creating, then for me it's not a big issue. We took many many points when goals were on v Longford, and that was a little disappointing but ok considering that game was over early and the subs were running the scoreboard. In Tullamore (agreed, great venue and some setup there) we did go for goals, and missed at least 4 chances due to a variety of reasons, but still scored 21 points. We're creating the chances, and when Lynch is fit, and Oisin Brady comes back in, along with Smith, McKiernan and many others, the chances will continue to come and the players will be there to finish them. I'd rather this than peaking too early. The fact we are cruising so well and not scoring many goals but making chances with lads to come back is actually exciting for me. What can we do when we fully click in a game?

It is also disappointing that we're where we are. Those lost years of relegation in 21 and then the Div 4 campaign the year after are a loss to not exposing us to better teams. I've always felt we were a Div 2 level team with the ability to jump up to Div 1 here and there for an odd run. it's where we need to get back to. We can see when things are being done right that we are a good team. Burke seems to have had a difference in fitness and attack shape that we were missing before, and we've stepped a level above where we are. I have honestly no fear of Armagh in April - we've every reason to be ready for them, and the players to do it too like any day in Ulster. It's where we need to get to. Get the players back, finish off this League to get promoted and get a good run at Ulster. feels good to see the lads going well like this, even allowing for all things
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dreadnought on March 03, 2023, 10:25:02 AM
How we feeling for Sunday folks?

Win and I think we're 99.9% assured promotion on head to head, score difference and such. Expect our hardest test yet. Down hard to figure where exactly they're at, but very different from last summer, and they seem to be hanging in. Winning games from behind and taking the win when it looked beyond them. They score fairly well, but concede too. Unless they tighten up and have a plan for us, that might be a recipe for us to get past them. And I think we will. Should be tight for a while, but if we don't concede more than 1 goal, and maybe get one ourselves, we might see this off on the home stretch by 3 to 4. Need to always watch though as they have some confidence that they can catch a team from behind right up to the end.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Look-Up! on March 03, 2023, 12:18:47 PM
I am confident for Sunday. I think we're playing the better football, have probably the stronger panel, have massive scope for improvement and are at home with what should be an enthusiastic crowd. Plus we seem to have a hex on Down this past while. But that can all change of course.

Agreed, keeping clean sheet is vital or at least keeping goal count to minimum. That will be a huge step towards victory. They do probably carry the biggest goal threat in this division and have a number of their Kilcoo contingent back so we need to be wary and expect a big improvement from them. We have things to iron out ourselves. If our performance levels don't drop coupled with being a bit more clinical upfront, we should have enough.

But we do need to start transferring our dominance to scoreboard better. We were all over Offaly like a rash and had enough chances to win two games but they were within a sniff, 5 points I think, inside last quarter. I think with a more experienced opponent, and a bit more potency, they could have sniffed blood and really made us sweat. No matter how good you are, you are not going to dominate for 70 minutes. How often have we seen a half hours good worked wiped out in less than a minute due to a procession of bad wides followed by the concession of sloppy goals. 
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on March 03, 2023, 02:57:04 PM
Feeling confident, Down have won a few games but hardly in a comfortable manner. If Cavan play well they will win it I think by 3 or 4 points. Be nice to see us rattle the net a few times too.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dreadnought on March 04, 2023, 09:00:34 PM
Team named. Same as v Offaly, with Lynch officially having the 13 jersey. Should be able to have a rattle here
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on March 04, 2023, 10:06:03 PM
No subs named. I'd put money on Gearoid making an appearance tomorrow.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on March 05, 2023, 08:25:21 PM
Quote from: Itchy on March 04, 2023, 10:06:03 PM
No subs named. I'd put money on Gearoid making an appearance tomorrow.

I should've put money on it
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dreadnought on March 06, 2023, 09:26:39 AM
Well that was nice yesterday. Still basking in it a little bit. This was the type of game we needed, and we passed the test very well. The early goal conceded, breaking down a black death defence - we kept at it and more than got over the line. That feels a lot better than the easy wins of the last 3 games, and got a glimpse of where we are really at.

Very tight and cagey first half. The goal was a blow, but we didn't panic. We saw how they set up, and we took our time to get through it and start to break it down. Could have conceded more goals actually now I'm thinking, but were still able to weather their storm, and get in level. they were never going to be able to keep up that level. Unreal to be able to bring those changes we did. Smith and McKiernan brilliant to bring on. Smith is so strong it's outrageous, and straight from 2nd half throw in we looked to up it. Managed it very well from there, and always then able to stay ahead. The goals made it look better I suppose. Poor call from the ref on the mark for 1st goal, but ref was odd for both teams all day with certain pickiness.

But we had it over them by then. They were dead on their feet, and we had strong players coming on who have been in there, compared to Down who had lads on the panel a week. We were far fitter and more conditioned than them. But just even that, it was great to see our game management, and tweaks made by the bench to get around them and nullify their setup. That final minutes felt great when we were walking through them. Just a word too on McKiernan, such a reception he got coming on. But oh my, that catch he made for the mark where he seemed to hang in the air for ages. Unreal. And we might see great things from him in the forwards if we've the players doing it out the field to feed him and Lynch and have a real dual threat in there. Even more so if Oisin Brady comes back and keeps going like he can. Things feeling really good tbh.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on March 06, 2023, 12:52:55 PM
That first half was a very difficult watch, mainly due to the tactics employed by Down. Cavan wanted to leave players up front but had to eventually match Down's packed defence.

We are beginning to see the levels in the squad and the difference between a league player and a championship player. Some of the new guys are being swallowed up by the pace of the game. Boylan looks like he is surviving and seems the most likely to keep a place. O'Neill isn't doing much wrong but failing to impact the game, that may be due to the style Down played. His main attribute is winning the ball out in front but that wasn't a feature of the game yesterday. At the very least he'll be a very solid option off the bench.

The highlight of the game yesterday was Faulkner's high ball into Gearoid. The wave of excitement that swept through the crowd as soon as the ball left his boot was wonderful. I expect it spoke to a lot of the "let it in" crowd. Gearoid didn't let us down and won it. It is still a tactic that needs to be refined and used well.

Overall a good day out. As close to championship pace as we have seen so far. Down still have a long way to go though and aren't the benchmark we would like to be judging ourselves from. They caused us plenty of problems yesterday with their intricate handpassing.

Mickey can get the squad more games now, rest up any injuries, try a few things out over the next 3 games and prepare for Armagh. A day out in Croker will be nice too!

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dreadnought on March 06, 2023, 01:00:13 PM
Quote from: Westside on March 06, 2023, 12:52:55 PM
That first half was a very difficult watch, mainly due to the tactics employed by Down. Cavan wanted to leave players up front but had to eventually match Down's packed defence.

We are beginning to see the levels in the squad and the difference between a league player and a championship player. Some of the new guys are being swallowed up by the pace of the game. Boylan looks like he is surviving and seems the most likely to keep a place. O'Neill isn't doing much wrong but failing to impact the game, that may be due to the style Down played. His main attribute is winning the ball out in front but that wasn't a feature of the game yesterday. At the very least he'll be a very solid option off the bench.

The highlight of the game yesterday was Faulkner's high ball into Gearoid. The wave of excitement that swept through the crowd as soon as the ball left his boot was wonderful. I expect it spoke to a lot of the "let it in" crowd. Gearoid didn't let us down and won it. It is still a tactic that needs to be refined and used well.

Overall a good day out. As close to championship pace as we have seen so far. Down still have a long way to go though and aren't the benchmark we would like to be judging ourselves from. They caused us plenty of problems yesterday with their intricate handpassing.

Mickey can get the squad more games now, rest up any injuries, try a few things out over the next 3 games and prepare for Armagh. A day out in Croker will be nice too!

That's it alright. Yesterday felt Championship. And when the rain went and the sun came out, with the good crowd, and vocal travelling Down support, it felt Championship. there was even a fella outside on the Dublin road selling headbands. They said on the pod last week that it's the reason we've put all our home games on Sundays at 2pm. This will be the time we play Antrim/Armagh at. So they're getting the lads used to it, and Fermanagh in 3 weeks will be similar. i like the late Saturday evening games, but see the logic here to have the lads at the pace for that time of day.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Look-Up! on March 07, 2023, 12:57:58 PM
Good result, looks like job done. I can't see any scenario where we don't get promoted. Would probably need to ship two thrashings which I cannot see happening.

Most difficult game so far. First half very tough due to the quick Down start and their defensive setup. Rode our luck too a bit in that we didn't concede more goals. That would have left an uphill task for 2nd half. But once we got our noses in front we always seemed to be able to keep them at arms length, just. They did play well at times and thought they moved the ball very well through their hands. But once the game opened up you could see why they choose to keep 15 men behind their 45.

Great game in a way that it was a bit of a wake up call to IC football for the new lads. It's not all easy and walking through teams and once we get to a higher division and indeed onto championship the challenges will be even greater. So a steep learning curve ahead but very happy overall with what we've seen so far.   
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on March 07, 2023, 06:07:40 PM
Down played like how Kilcoo play. Flood numbers back and break at pace with quick hands. They had some good moves with the slick hand passing but rarely kicked the ball. Corofin were the most enjoyable club team to watch with kick passing.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Look-Up! on March 19, 2023, 12:49:56 PM
Great to get promotion.

Didn't make it to Belfast, made do with the wireless. Sounded laboured and they cut through us with ease. Looks like McVeety will need to stay at no. 6 come championship but no harm trying different things before then. No harm seeing our limitations now and not going into Ulster with a false sense of security. I'd have no problems doing similar against Fermanagh next round. While no doubt there's lots of new talent there, it'll take time to get fully up to speed of the IC game. These games are ideal for that and a great learning curve especially against a Fermanagh who absolutely have to win.

Good comeback though when we finally did wake up. Sounded like the referee screwed us when we had them on the ropes. I'm sure that was the case and no bias at all from the very impartial commentary crew! Anyone make it?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dreadnought on March 20, 2023, 09:13:41 AM
Quote from: Look-Up! on March 19, 2023, 12:49:56 PM
Great to get promotion.

Didn't make it to Belfast, made do with the wireless. Sounded laboured and they cut through us with ease. Looks like McVeety will need to stay at no. 6 come championship but no harm trying different things before then. No harm seeing our limitations now and not going into Ulster with a false sense of security. I'd have no problems doing similar against Fermanagh next round. While no doubt there's lots of new talent there, it'll take time to get fully up to speed of the IC game. These games are ideal for that and a great learning curve especially against a Fermanagh who absolutely have to win.

Good comeback though when we finally did wake up. Sounded like the referee screwed us when we had them on the ropes. I'm sure that was the case and no bias at all from the very impartial commentary crew! Anyone make it?

Yeah I made it up despite having a head on me post Paddys day. Didn't hear the commentary, but the ref was a joke at times alright. Hate talking about refs after a game, but there was no reason to most of his calls. You can usually tell pretty quickly early on in a match what a ref will be picky on, or how they judge the tackle. Not this guy. One would be a free in, and then a moment later the exact same thing would be a free out for the other team. I don't mind picky refs, once you determine what they want from the tackle and such, but this lad made it up differently every single time. There was a lot of home town calls I felt.

I think we got no free inside the 45 in the first half, and very few in the 2nd. I'm not excusing our very poor performance (we were badly set up, seemingly unfit players, missing players going well, and just didn't seem up for it bar the final 15 minutes) but telling we nearly got back into it despite this. He gave them a free in to stretch it to 2 points last minute when it was a free out all day long. He gave for overcarrying despite being dragged to the ground, like the easiest free out you'd give to a defender turning over a ball. Anyway, no odds overall, we're promoted now and we've quite a lot to work on this week.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dreadnought on March 24, 2023, 10:51:37 PM
Looks like Rian O'Neill will be missing for Armagh if they get through to the quarter versus us. Big loss for them
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Cavan19 on March 27, 2023, 10:42:27 AM
Quote from: Dreadnought on March 24, 2023, 10:51:37 PM
Looks like Rian O'Neill will be missing for Armagh if they get through to the quarter versus us. Big loss for them

Id be more concerned about McVetty been missing than who they have or haven't we are not the same team without him.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dreadnought on March 27, 2023, 10:49:16 AM
Quote from: Cavan19 on March 27, 2023, 10:42:27 AM
Quote from: Dreadnought on March 24, 2023, 10:51:37 PM
Looks like Rian O'Neill will be missing for Armagh if they get through to the quarter versus us. Big loss for them

Id be more concerned about McVetty been missing than who they have or haven't we are not the same team without him.

Fully agree. Lynch missing too. Gerry Smith wasn't togged out. Carolan went off injured. If those 4 aren't there for 4 weeks time, it'll be a tough ask. Hope they're all just niggles and we get them all back. They're needed
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: 5times5times on March 27, 2023, 01:24:24 PM
Armagh's 2 best players in O'Neill + Murnin will be missing, should they beat Antrim + play Cavan
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on March 30, 2023, 02:10:58 PM
Poor stuff from our U20s last night. I thought we looked so clueless at times, I struggle to think of a game I ever saw that frustrated me so much. WHen the lad comes on as a sub for example and takes a shot from the sideline with his 1st touch. Just mad stuff. Really a game we threw away.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on April 01, 2023, 12:49:16 PM
For those of us  that  can't make it up, at least it on TG4 at 7pm.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dreadnought on April 03, 2023, 08:30:33 AM
How do folks. What did we reckon of Saturday then? Great to get the win. There was some amount of sandbagging about lads injured. How does one wear a protective moon boot, yet 6 days later player for over 70 minutes? Think it was always going to be tough for them to get down off the high of promotion, and then get ready for this. They celebrated (rightly) last week while we were looking forward to the final from the week before. Our Croke Park experience also came to the fore as well I think. Been a while since they were there, and probably had only a few players from that time. We've been there quite a lot recently and it can make a difference.

Saying all that, that 1st half was really tight. It was shocking football to be honest. The conditions didn't help clearly, but suppose it was the arm wrestle that it would be until we took control. It was good to see Graham make changes. McKenna was unlucky (and his interaction with Mickey coming off says it all), but I think that's fine with being on a yellow, and he has the fire in his belly. But with Conor Brady in, McLoughlin too (who is outrageous) we did grab this game and those 5 scores on the bounce after half time, and the same again at the end told the story. So many missed goal chances again that any other day we'd have 2 or so. That half was really good after probably 2.5 halves of poor football. And can lead us very well into the QF. Faulkner was class, Kelm barely got a sniff all game. McLoughlin is just so good. Many times it was him effecting a turnover, getting a hand in, or coming out with the ball. GMac was quiet. He seemed to get wound up early by something and spent rest of the game looking annoyed and trying to get one back. Unusual to see him subbed, but maybe a wee kick he needs.

Anyway, overall good win, good to see some players back, and good to see strong bench appearances by some. It is a 20 man game these days and we needed that. Roll on the Quarters now. I have no fear of any team on our side. I expect a strong Quarter final showing, and set us up to push to the final.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on April 03, 2023, 09:11:14 AM
I think the lads up'd the intensity in the 2nd half, really putting pressure on Fermanagh and as a result showing they are a good bit ahead of the neighbours. BUT we fairly butchered goal scoring chances, I reckon with a bit of composure we should have had 3 goals. Ryan O Neill for example worked very hard, did some good stuff but made some really poor decisions and messed up a few passes. McLoughlin was outstanding I think when he came on - but hopefully Carolan is not injured. Gearoid is worryingly still off the pace from what I saw. Faulkner, McVetty, McLoughlin, Clarke, Holla were the ones who took the fight to Fermanagh.

What we saw in Croke Park wont beat Armagh so I can only hope Graham has something else up his sleeve for them.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on April 03, 2023, 11:48:23 AM
Fully agree on all of that Itchy. McLoughlin is just a fantastic defender. In an era where so much of our tackling is sloppy, his ability to get the hand in and dispossess cleanly is outstanding. He changed the game for Cavan.

I felt bad for McKenna, no matter the reason behind it being subbed off after less than 20 minutes during a televised game when we are leading 2 points to nothing is embarrassing. I suppose his pride was hurt and that's why he challenged Mickey, he would have been better served to keep his head down and take it up with Mickey in private but that's easier said than done. He's put in a mountain of time and effort to get his chance, the big test now is if he can come back from this incident or if it's soured things for him.

Gearoid's form is very worrying, his lack of mobility is becoming more pronounced. The question needs to be asked though, why leave him playing full forward and not test the waters with a few high balls in his direction? If we are playing him, we need to play to his strengths.

I was impressed with Oisin Brady, he made some silly errors and it looked like the game was passing him by but he really stepped up in the final 10 minutes or so.

I think the Armagh game will be a very tough ask, the favourites usually win and I'd imagine Armagh will be strong favourites. They have been playing a very defensive game so far and Cavan have struggled to break down the massed defences. If they were flying high coming into the game I'd be more confident of an ambush but the relegation and general low mood about them will take the pressure off them and give them some spite to work with. Mickey has consistently got us to a different level for Championship and he'll certainly need the biggest first round bounce of his tenure for us to win this game.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: marty34 on April 03, 2023, 12:21:24 PM
Yeah, I suppose the lad coming off was annoyed alright.  Just frustrated more than anything.

He was on a yellow so that was the only thing. Maybe manager thought he was getting too involved and might get another silly booking. That's my take on it.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on April 03, 2023, 12:27:46 PM
Quote from: marty34 on April 03, 2023, 12:21:24 PM
Yeah, I suppose the lad coming off was annoyed alright.  Just frustrated more than anything.

He was on a yellow so that was the only thing. Maybe manager thought he was getting too involved and might get another silly booking. That's my take on it.

Yeah it was decisive management from Graham, tough on McKenna but probably the right decision.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dreadnought on April 17, 2023, 12:10:14 PM
Big week ahead folks. Looking forward to the match Saturday evening, and weather giving to be decent. Armagh will bring a big crowd. Been a while since we had a fairly full Breffni. They'll be on full alert especially with Monaghan pulling off a wee shock yesterday. They're supposedly still without O'Neill and maybe Murnin, but who knows the story these days - they could both start come 6.30 on Saturday. Anyone got any word on how our boys are going? Think there was a challenge with Meath last weekend. We'd be hoping to have all those injuries cleared up and get a good run at these. They do poorly against us in Championship recently, and don't like Breffni. Bring it on
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on April 17, 2023, 02:02:07 PM
I see no reason we cannot win this game. No saying it will be easy and we will need to be playing at our best. I will be disappointed if we do not win it. Get over this game and no reason we cannot give Ulster a right go considering our bogey team just exited.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dreadnought on April 17, 2023, 03:02:16 PM
Quote from: Itchy on April 17, 2023, 02:02:07 PM
I see no reason we cannot win this game. No saying it will be easy and we will need to be playing at our best. I will be disappointed if we do not win it. Get over this game and no reason we cannot give Ulster a right go considering our bogey team just exited.
100% there. I'm expecting a win, and while that will take a big performance, I think we have it in us. I did have a little cheer for Tyrone going out yesterday, even if our dear neighbours were the beneficiaries.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on April 17, 2023, 07:31:36 PM
Expecting a win, I'd love to have your confidence lads!

I think there are big holes visible in the side. Carolan is struggling for form and fitness. Gearoid looks all at sea. McVeety clearly isn't fit. Midfield is a worry.

I think to win we need everyone firing and fit and a good rub of the green. That looks unlikely.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dreadnought on April 18, 2023, 09:14:43 AM
Quote from: Westside on April 17, 2023, 07:31:36 PM
Expecting a win, I'd love to have your confidence lads!

I think there are big holes visible in the side. Carolan is struggling for form and fitness. Gearoid looks all at sea. McVeety clearly isn't fit. Midfield is a worry.

I think to win we need everyone firing and fit and a good rub of the green. That looks unlikely.
I wouldn't say big holes. those are things that can clear up quite nicely in 3 weeks. McVeety was wearing a boot before and after the final. He's had 3 weeks more and if was fit to play in any way in the final, he'll be fine this weekend. GMac did have a poor game. By his standards, and we do hold him to that. I can't ever remember him having 2 poor games in a row. Carolan was struggling, but these things clear up with a break, and Mickey will have been aiming for this game. making sure the S&C was aimed toward this weekend. And he always holds something up his sleeve for Championship. I know that if we're right and have the players back with these injuries cleared up, that we can win. We play a team missing 2 important players, have a few other niggles themselves, and they come to a ground they don't like against a team they've struggled with in Championship. They're not great when someone goes at them. And I think we will
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on April 18, 2023, 11:13:49 AM
I sincerely hope you're right Dreadnought. Hard to overstate how big of a win this would be if we pulled it off.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dreadnought on April 18, 2023, 12:57:24 PM
Quote from: Westside on April 18, 2023, 11:13:49 AM
I sincerely hope you're right Dreadnought. Hard to overstate how big of a win this would be if we pulled it off.
It would be a big win, but it'd hardly be a shock or anything for me. If we aren't expecting to go into this match and come out with a win, then what are we at really? We're not a tiny county, we're a county that can beat nearly any other team on our day. Armagh are not some giant who are many levels above us, we've done far more than them in Ulster recent years. I feel the last number of years, that so much weight has been put on League an where you are and where you finished. We've seen time and again this doesn't always apply to us and we know we're a good team. We have the players, we're at home, and if we're dialled in, take enough of our chances, then I expect we'll win.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dreadnought on April 18, 2023, 01:05:03 PM
I know that sounds arrogant, but it'll be a huge disappointment for me if we lose. More riding on this for us than Armagh in more than a few ways. We've a lot of players around the 100 cap mark with enough talented youth and others in between backing them up, and another year in Tailteann for us will be a disaster. If our boys haven't been aiming our year for this, aren't dialled in, and aren't ready to go knowing we can win this then I really don't know where we're at as a county. This will be our best chance for the next while to get to a final with some teams on downers and Tyrone out. We need to show that finals and the win in 2020 were not aberrations. Getting through Ulster games and not being afraid of them needs to be where we're at.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on April 19, 2023, 11:49:48 AM
Is the match on TV?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dreadnought on April 19, 2023, 11:58:15 AM
Quote from: Denn Forever on April 19, 2023, 11:49:48 AM
Is the match on TV?
GAA Go only unfortunately. Not sure why BBC picked so many otehr matches, but not this one which should be a cracker
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on April 20, 2023, 11:29:38 AM
Northern Sound so.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on April 20, 2023, 11:48:04 AM
I hope the Cavan support get off their arses and get out to this game.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dreadnought on April 21, 2023, 11:15:18 AM
Cavan team named:

Raymond Galligan
Killian Clarke
Padraig Faulkner
Jason McLoughlin
Ciaran Brady
Oisin Kiernan
Gerry Smith
Gearoid McKiernan
James Smith
Conor Brady
Dara McVeety
Jonny McCabe
Cian Madden
Paddy Lynch
Oisin Brady

Bench: Liam Brady, Conor Moynagh, Conor Madden, Niall Carolan, Tiarnan Madden, Brandon Boylan, Ryan O'Neill, Jack McKenna, Killian Brady, Marty Reilly, Conor Smith
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on April 22, 2023, 02:29:49 PM
Good start today, minors gave Antrim an awful hammering, 3-20 to 0-7.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on April 22, 2023, 03:51:47 PM
Will the weather be good for us or Armagh?  The nerves are building.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on April 23, 2023, 07:12:49 AM
What a disappointment that was. Such a feeble effort in the first half, didn't give it a go at all. Raised their game in 2nd half only to butcher a crazy amount of scoring opportunities. So many lads played below their best - holla, James Smith, oisin kiernan, Gerry smith, McVetty didn't show up. Galligan was poor, 1 free from 3 and good few wayward kick outs as well as being very lucky twice when high ball came in on him. It was just a mess of a performance when we really needed a big one.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: marty34 on April 23, 2023, 08:53:08 AM
Quote from: Itchy on April 23, 2023, 07:12:49 AM
What a disappointment that was. Such a feeble effort in the first half, didn't give it a go at all. Raised their game in 2nd half only to butcher a crazy amount of scoring opportunities. So many lads played below their best - holla, James Smith, oisin kiernan, Gerry smith, McVetty didn't show up. Galligan was poor, 1 free from 3 and good few wayward kick outs as well as being very lucky twice when high ball came in on him. It was just a mess of a performance when we really needed a big one.

Poor firat half was the killer alright. Playing catch up.

Armagh just seemed like a team who said during the week, let's go and get the job done early.  While Cavan showed no intensity.

Could have got closer near the end but the decision makibg for the big shots was poor.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on April 24, 2023, 01:48:42 PM
I find it hard to believe that's a happy camp given what we've seen since the Down game. We brought far more intensity to Mullingar in January than we did to that game.

Mickey Graham has been living off the Championship manager. He would probably have got away with another Donegal 2022 style gallant defeat but we can't excuse poor performances when things don't improve drastically come championship.

If we don't win the Tailteann Cup, it's probably time for new blood to oversee the rebuild that will be required over the next 5 years.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on April 24, 2023, 02:38:05 PM
Quote from: Westside on April 24, 2023, 01:48:42 PM
I find it hard to believe that's a happy camp given what we've seen since the Down game. We brought far more intensity to Mullingar in January than we did to that game.

Mickey Graham has been living off the Championship manager. He would probably have got away with another Donegal 2022 style gallant defeat but we can't excuse poor performances when things don't improve drastically come championship.

If we don't win the Tailteann Cup, it's probably time for new blood to oversee the rebuild that will be required over the next 5 years.

I would say Graham stepping away at the end of this year is a given now. The question that worries me is who steps in!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on April 28, 2023, 01:29:39 PM
Watch cavan vs roscommon in some game. Div 2/3 final from a few years ago.  We were every bit as good as recommon and  look where they are now.  Lost some good payers.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Look-Up! on May 02, 2023, 04:03:44 PM
TC draw out. This was always our competition level so time to get into right frame and actually go out and win it. Wouldn't be over confident myself but we'll be there or thereabouts. We've got D2 status again, to win this bringing on new lads and playing a more positive brand would be decent progress for the year (starting to sound like a broken record at this stage). That's the most disappointing take from the Armagh match, wasn't expecting a different result but expected to have at least a cut at them at home. And despite gaining promotion with a fairly new look team but changing to a more familiar starting 15 in championship, you'd think we had no panel of note or any talent coming through by how we manage our bench. Can only imagine how players are feeling.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on May 29, 2023, 03:22:59 PM
James Smith gone from Cavan panel and playing with his club. What happened there?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on May 31, 2023, 11:59:49 AM
Gaelic Life have it that it was work commitments. He's a loss overall but in fairness his form has been poor this year so his heart obviously hasn't been in it. Good opportunity for Jack McKenna or Donohoe to step up now and fill that role.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on June 18, 2023, 09:55:17 AM
That was a very depressing evening, in some ways more depressing than Armagh. So poor on the line and on the field. Hard to know where to even start.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: marty34 on June 18, 2023, 10:13:15 AM
Quote from: Itchy on June 18, 2023, 09:55:17 AM
That was a very depressing evening, in some ways more depressing than Armagh. So poor on the line and on the field. Hard to know where to even start.

Hard to see Graham staying on after that. He pushed things on but will be disappointed with how the Tailteann Cup panned out.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on June 18, 2023, 10:40:32 AM
Quote from: marty34 on June 18, 2023, 10:13:15 AM
Quote from: Itchy on June 18, 2023, 09:55:17 AM
That was a very depressing evening, in some ways more depressing than Armagh. So poor on the line and on the field. Hard to know where to even start.

Hard to see Graham staying on after that. He pushed things on but will be disappointed with how the Tailteann Cup panned out.

I think that is a given but the problem is how many players will leave with him
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on June 25, 2023, 02:50:10 PM
Cavan look like having a few wilderness years now. Graham will go, and on the basis of the flat, robotic performances in the championship games that matter, starting with the Tailteann Cup final, it's time he did. In hindsight, losing that final is an even bigger disaster that it even looked initially, psychologically as well as in Sam Maguire eligibility terms - totally blew their chance to undo the horrors of those league relegations that Graham must carry the can for too. The football against Armagh and Down was genuinely nauseating to sit through - repetitive, side shuffling from players totally bound by systems, tactics, patterns, whatever you want to call it, it'd give you a pain in your face. Just no cut and thrust whatsoever.

A few big names look like they've had enough at this stage and that's no surprise; lots of miles done and very little to show for it, bar one shining moment. We still have a few players coming through you'd imagine, how could we not with "the great work being done at all levels in Cavan" (yet we've won next to nothing for 50 years +). I'm not knocking the effort there, btw, just how it's channeled. Clearly a lot of investment is yielding very little return, or not enough considering what's being put in.

Grim times ahead methinks  :-[
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on June 26, 2023, 11:47:15 AM
I'd agree with a lot of that but the one niggling worry I have is realistically who do we get to replace Graham? I think we need a Cavan man with the interests of Cavan gaa to the fore, not some mercenary in it for quick wins.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Look-Up! on June 26, 2023, 01:13:40 PM
There's probably not a whole pile of obvious candidates. But we clearly need a change, someone fully committed to the role who can develop this squad and preferably appointed before the club championship. An outside manager wouldn't necessarily be a bad thing as you'd imagine they should not have any loyalty to current players. Big changes are coming regardless. Hopefully if we get a decent candidate, the buy in to the squad will still be good. 
Thanks to Mickey for his efforts, a brilliant past player and 2020 was a great tonic to all Cavan people in what were dark times. Hasn't worked out unfortunately since. Pity because he's a great lad and passionate football man. He can go with his head held high and plenty of clubs will be keen of his services but I don't think IC management is for him. Doesn't utilise a large squad and puts his trust in too small of a player pool. I heard the lads on WAC recommending that he stays on for another 5 years but that would be disastrous IMO.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Cavan19 on June 26, 2023, 02:10:00 PM
Quote from: Look-Up! on June 26, 2023, 01:13:40 PM
There's probably not a whole pile of obvious candidates. But we clearly need a change, someone fully committed to the role who can develop this squad and preferably appointed before the club championship. An outside manager wouldn't necessarily be a bad thing as you'd imagine they should not have any loyalty to current players. Big changes are coming regardless. Hopefully if we get a decent candidate, the buy in to the squad will still be good. 
Thanks to Mickey for his efforts, a brilliant past player and 2020 was a great tonic to all Cavan people in what were dark times. Hasn't worked out unfortunately since. Pity because he's a great lad and passionate football man. He can go with his head held high and plenty of clubs will be keen of his services but I don't think IC management is for him. Doesn't utilise a large squad and puts his trust in too small of a player pool. I heard the lads on WAC recommending that he stays on for another 5 years but that would be disastrous IMO.

I would agree on getting someone in before the club championships but i can't see it been that quick.

Are the WAC lads drinking buddies with Graham or what sort of back scratching is going on there?  I haven't heard anyone else in the county saying that he should stay on.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Look-Up! on June 26, 2023, 02:50:43 PM
Quote from: Cavan19 on June 26, 2023, 02:10:00 PM
Quote from: Look-Up! on June 26, 2023, 01:13:40 PM
There's probably not a whole pile of obvious candidates. But we clearly need a change, someone fully committed to the role who can develop this squad and preferably appointed before the club championship. An outside manager wouldn't necessarily be a bad thing as you'd imagine they should not have any loyalty to current players. Big changes are coming regardless. Hopefully if we get a decent candidate, the buy in to the squad will still be good. 
Thanks to Mickey for his efforts, a brilliant past player and 2020 was a great tonic to all Cavan people in what were dark times. Hasn't worked out unfortunately since. Pity because he's a great lad and passionate football man. He can go with his head held high and plenty of clubs will be keen of his services but I don't think IC management is for him. Doesn't utilise a large squad and puts his trust in too small of a player pool. I heard the lads on WAC recommending that he stays on for another 5 years but that would be disastrous IMO.

I would agree on getting someone in before the club championships but i can't see it been that quick.

Are the WAC lads drinking buddies with Graham or what sort of back scratching is going on there?  I haven't heard anyone else in the county saying that he should stay on.
I'd imagine something like that. One of them was blaming the rain for the loss to Armagh before the last match. Hopefully nothing too dodgy going on behind the scenes because a change is needed. Seem to remember them commenting on commitment of players a while ago and poor turnout at training when reality was anything but. Very poor balance with them. Had a pop at Mattie not so long ago labelling his reign as "the lost years". Drawing with Kerry in Breffni and beating Mayo in Castlebar in front of bumper crowds! Plus getting back to Division 1 with a new look experimental squad. I wouldn't mind a bit of those years again.

You're probably right on appointment being later. If there is one that is. I've a nagging doubt he may not walk, and if he doesn't, I'm not sure he'll be pushed.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on June 26, 2023, 05:32:29 PM
My first post may have come across a tad uncharitable to Graham, who I do think did a solid job overall especially in his first few years. In reality we're going back to square one with a big rebuild on now so how tantalising a prospect that might be to an outside manager is debatable. I think we'll appoint from within again which I prefer in the circumstances but I think one more year under Mickey might be one too many. It's all gone very stale.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on June 26, 2023, 05:37:23 PM
Quote from: Look-Up! on June 26, 2023, 02:50:43 PM
Quote from: Cavan19 on June 26, 2023, 02:10:00 PM
Quote from: Look-Up! on June 26, 2023, 01:13:40 PM
There's probably not a whole pile of obvious candidates. But we clearly need a change, someone fully committed to the role who can develop this squad and preferably appointed before the club championship. An outside manager wouldn't necessarily be a bad thing as you'd imagine they should not have any loyalty to current players. Big changes are coming regardless. Hopefully if we get a decent candidate, the buy in to the squad will still be good. 
Thanks to Mickey for his efforts, a brilliant past player and 2020 was a great tonic to all Cavan people in what were dark times. Hasn't worked out unfortunately since. Pity because he's a great lad and passionate football man. He can go with his head held high and plenty of clubs will be keen of his services but I don't think IC management is for him. Doesn't utilise a large squad and puts his trust in too small of a player pool. I heard the lads on WAC recommending that he stays on for another 5 years but that would be disastrous IMO.

I would agree on getting someone in before the club championships but i can't see it been that quick.

Are the WAC lads drinking buddies with Graham or what sort of back scratching is going on there?  I haven't heard anyone else in the county saying that he should stay on.
I'd imagine something like that. One of them was blaming the rain for the loss to Armagh before the last match. Hopefully nothing too dodgy going on behind the scenes because a change is needed. Seem to remember them commenting on commitment of players a while ago and poor turnout at training when reality was anything but. Very poor balance with them. Had a pop at Mattie not so long ago labelling his reign as "the lost years". Drawing with Kerry in Breffni and beating Mayo in Castlebar in front of bumper crowds! Plus getting back to Division 1 with a new look experimental squad. I wouldn't mind a bit of those years again.

You're probably right on appointment being later. If there is one that is. I've a nagging doubt he may not walk, and if he doesn't, I'm not sure he'll be pushed.

Things may be gone south under graham but Jesus don't try and tell me the Mcgleenan years were "fabulous" as the man himself might say. We were hopeless in championship under him and championship is where it's at.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Look-Up! on June 26, 2023, 07:15:29 PM
Quote from: Itchy on June 26, 2023, 05:37:23 PM
Quote from: Look-Up! on June 26, 2023, 02:50:43 PM
Quote from: Cavan19 on June 26, 2023, 02:10:00 PM
Quote from: Look-Up! on June 26, 2023, 01:13:40 PM
There's probably not a whole pile of obvious candidates. But we clearly need a change, someone fully committed to the role who can develop this squad and preferably appointed before the club championship. An outside manager wouldn't necessarily be a bad thing as you'd imagine they should not have any loyalty to current players. Big changes are coming regardless. Hopefully if we get a decent candidate, the buy in to the squad will still be good. 
Thanks to Mickey for his efforts, a brilliant past player and 2020 was a great tonic to all Cavan people in what were dark times. Hasn't worked out unfortunately since. Pity because he's a great lad and passionate football man. He can go with his head held high and plenty of clubs will be keen of his services but I don't think IC management is for him. Doesn't utilise a large squad and puts his trust in too small of a player pool. I heard the lads on WAC recommending that he stays on for another 5 years but that would be disastrous IMO.

I would agree on getting someone in before the club championships but i can't see it been that quick.

Are the WAC lads drinking buddies with Graham or what sort of back scratching is going on there?  I haven't heard anyone else in the county saying that he should stay on.
I'd imagine something like that. One of them was blaming the rain for the loss to Armagh before the last match. Hopefully nothing too dodgy going on behind the scenes because a change is needed. Seem to remember them commenting on commitment of players a while ago and poor turnout at training when reality was anything but. Very poor balance with them. Had a pop at Mattie not so long ago labelling his reign as "the lost years". Drawing with Kerry in Breffni and beating Mayo in Castlebar in front of bumper crowds! Plus getting back to Division 1 with a new look experimental squad. I wouldn't mind a bit of those years again.

You're probably right on appointment being later. If there is one that is. I've a nagging doubt he may not walk, and if he doesn't, I'm not sure he'll be pushed.

Things may be gone south under graham but Jesus don't try and tell me the Mcgleenan years were "fabulous" as the man himself might say. We were hopeless in championship under him and championship is where it's at.
I wasn't sorry to see Mattie go but if he had wanted to stay another year I wouldn't have objected. League performances were light years better under him and it's where you develop as a team. Championship is a lottery. We won a few games with him, lost to Tyrone, Monaghan, Donegal and Tipp(AI semi finalists year previously). Hardly awe inspiring but we were never hockeyed. If that was hopeless I don't know how to describe last 3 years.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on June 28, 2023, 01:56:52 PM
Quote from: Look-Up! on June 26, 2023, 07:15:29 PM
Quote from: Itchy on June 26, 2023, 05:37:23 PM
Quote from: Look-Up! on June 26, 2023, 02:50:43 PM
Quote from: Cavan19 on June 26, 2023, 02:10:00 PM
Quote from: Look-Up! on June 26, 2023, 01:13:40 PM
There's probably not a whole pile of obvious candidates. But we clearly need a change, someone fully committed to the role who can develop this squad and preferably appointed before the club championship. An outside manager wouldn't necessarily be a bad thing as you'd imagine they should not have any loyalty to current players. Big changes are coming regardless. Hopefully if we get a decent candidate, the buy in to the squad will still be good. 
Thanks to Mickey for his efforts, a brilliant past player and 2020 was a great tonic to all Cavan people in what were dark times. Hasn't worked out unfortunately since. Pity because he's a great lad and passionate football man. He can go with his head held high and plenty of clubs will be keen of his services but I don't think IC management is for him. Doesn't utilise a large squad and puts his trust in too small of a player pool. I heard the lads on WAC recommending that he stays on for another 5 years but that would be disastrous IMO.

I would agree on getting someone in before the club championships but i can't see it been that quick.

Are the WAC lads drinking buddies with Graham or what sort of back scratching is going on there?  I haven't heard anyone else in the county saying that he should stay on.
I'd imagine something like that. One of them was blaming the rain for the loss to Armagh before the last match. Hopefully nothing too dodgy going on behind the scenes because a change is needed. Seem to remember them commenting on commitment of players a while ago and poor turnout at training when reality was anything but. Very poor balance with them. Had a pop at Mattie not so long ago labelling his reign as "the lost years". Drawing with Kerry in Breffni and beating Mayo in Castlebar in front of bumper crowds! Plus getting back to Division 1 with a new look experimental squad. I wouldn't mind a bit of those years again.

You're probably right on appointment being later. If there is one that is. I've a nagging doubt he may not walk, and if he doesn't, I'm not sure he'll be pushed.

Things may be gone south under graham but Jesus don't try and tell me the Mcgleenan years were "fabulous" as the man himself might say. We were hopeless in championship under him and championship is where it's at.
I wasn't sorry to see Mattie go but if he had wanted to stay another year I wouldn't have objected. League performances were light years better under him and it's where you develop as a team. Championship is a lottery. We won a few games with him, lost to Tyrone, Monaghan, Donegal and Tipp(AI semi finalists year previously). Hardly awe inspiring but we were never hockeyed. If that was hopeless I don't know how to describe last 3 years.

Wasnt just the losses, it was the manner of the losses. Graham tenure has gone downhill in 3 years (I like how you limited the review to 3 yrs for some reason) however he did make 2 ulster finals, a Tailteann final and league finals. He won 1 ulster, 1 Div 4 and 1 Div 3 title. Not great but way ahead of McGleenan. Its funny when you do well in championship Cavan fans will moan about the league performances and when you do well in the league they will moan about the championship.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Look-Up! on June 29, 2023, 12:44:41 AM
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There's probably not a whole pile of obvious candidates. But we clearly need a change, someone fully committed to the role who can develop this squad and preferably appointed before the club championship. An outside manager wouldn't necessarily be a bad thing as you'd imagine they should not have any loyalty to current players. Big changes are coming regardless. Hopefully if we get a decent candidate, the buy in to the squad will still be good. 
Thanks to Mickey for his efforts, a brilliant past player and 2020 was a great tonic to all Cavan people in what were dark times. Hasn't worked out unfortunately since. Pity because he's a great lad and passionate football man. He can go with his head held high and plenty of clubs will be keen of his services but I don't think IC management is for him. Doesn't utilise a large squad and puts his trust in too small of a player pool. I heard the lads on WAC recommending that he stays on for another 5 years but that would be disastrous IMO.

I would agree on getting someone in before the club championships but i can't see it been that quick.

Are the WAC lads drinking buddies with Graham or what sort of back scratching is going on there?  I haven't heard anyone else in the county saying that he should stay on.
I'd imagine something like that. One of them was blaming the rain for the loss to Armagh before the last match. Hopefully nothing too dodgy going on behind the scenes because a change is needed. Seem to remember them commenting on commitment of players a while ago and poor turnout at training when reality was anything but. Very poor balance with them. Had a pop at Mattie not so long ago labelling his reign as "the lost years". Drawing with Kerry in Breffni and beating Mayo in Castlebar in front of bumper crowds! Plus getting back to Division 1 with a new look experimental squad. I wouldn't mind a bit of those years again.

You're probably right on appointment being later. If there is one that is. I've a nagging doubt he may not walk, and if he doesn't, I'm not sure he'll be pushed.

Things may be gone south under graham but Jesus don't try and tell me the Mcgleenan years were "fabulous" as the man himself might say. We were hopeless in championship under him and championship is where it's at.
I wasn't sorry to see Mattie go but if he had wanted to stay another year I wouldn't have objected. League performances were light years better under him and it's where you develop as a team. Championship is a lottery. We won a few games with him, lost to Tyrone, Monaghan, Donegal and Tipp(AI semi finalists year previously). Hardly awe inspiring but we were never hockeyed. If that was hopeless I don't know how to describe last 3 years.

Wasnt just the losses, it was the manner of the losses. Graham tenure has gone downhill in 3 years (I like how you limited the review to 3 yrs for some reason) however he did make 2 ulster finals, a Tailteann final and league finals. He won 1 ulster, 1 Div 4 and 1 Div 3 title. Not great but way ahead of McGleenan. Its funny when you do well in championship Cavan fans will moan about the league performances and when you do well in the league they will moan about the championship.
Ah here Itchy. Going to D4 was an all time low. Listing Division 4 Finals and TC finals as achievements against other managers is some spin. I remember first 2 years well. Beating Monaghan was great, we actually played very well that day with a nice slice of luck for a change. The Ulster final, aftermath and Tyrone game were brutal, as bad as anything I have seen. 2020 was great achievement, we were brilliant in final. But how we got there was a miracle and largely thanks to Raymond Galligan. First 50 minutes against Monaghan is probably the worst I have ever seen a Cavan team play. I don't think it's an exaggeration to say they were at least 15 points a better team. Win was delightful but lets not pretend we were playing well. We all hoped victory over Donegal was a watershed moment but it was clearly a one off.

I think it was the manner of the championship victories more so turned people off Mattie. We beat Wicklow and Down but were very very poor and defensive. In his defence he had us very open all year but then shipped two big scorelines in League final and first round and panicked. His very last game against Tyrone we actually played very well and we rattled them. It was probably enough to guarantee him another year but he had the good sense to know he was a little out of his depth and not fully trusted. No shame in walking.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mrdeeds on July 11, 2023, 12:34:19 PM
Graham gone anyway. A reign full of highs and lows. The high obviously the Ulster Championship win while Wicklow defeat the lowest.

Shortlist for u20 job, Donal Keogan, Larry Reilly,  Brian Donohoe and Keelin Melaniff.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on July 11, 2023, 02:39:43 PM
Quote from: mrdeeds on July 11, 2023, 12:34:19 PM
Graham gone anyway. A reign full of highs and lows. The high obviously the Ulster Championship win while Wicklow defeat the lowest.

Shortlist for u20 job, Donal Keogan, Larry Reilly,  Brian Donohoe and Keelin Melaniff.

Shortlist for the U20 Job? Has Damian Donohoe vacated it?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mrdeeds on July 11, 2023, 02:55:53 PM
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Graham gone anyway. A reign full of highs and lows. The high obviously the Ulster Championship win while Wicklow defeat the lowest.

Shortlist for u20 job, Donal Keogan, Larry Reilly,  Brian Donohoe and Keelin Melaniff.

Shortlist for the U20 Job? Has Damian Donohoe vacated it?

Yeah done his three years.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on July 11, 2023, 03:10:45 PM
Quote from: mrdeeds on July 11, 2023, 02:55:53 PM
Quote from: Itchy on July 11, 2023, 02:39:43 PM
Quote from: mrdeeds on July 11, 2023, 12:34:19 PM
Graham gone anyway. A reign full of highs and lows. The high obviously the Ulster Championship win while Wicklow defeat the lowest.

Shortlist for u20 job, Donal Keogan, Larry Reilly,  Brian Donohoe and Keelin Melaniff.

Shortlist for the U20 Job? Has Damian Donohoe vacated it?

Yeah done his three years.

Oh right, I hadnt heard an annoucement that he was finished so assumed another year may have been on the cards
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on July 11, 2023, 08:30:10 PM
Early mentions of Malachy O'Rourke to replace Graham. Whatever you think of him as a candidate, it's hard to imagine he won't be in the county board's thoughts.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: statto on July 12, 2023, 09:41:19 AM
Quote from: cavanmaniac on July 11, 2023, 08:30:10 PM
Early mentions of Malachy O'Rourke to replace Graham. Whatever you think of him as a candidate, it's hard to imagine he won't be in the county board's thoughts.
Would be a great appointment. 
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: 5times5times on July 12, 2023, 10:28:33 AM
Quote from: cavanmaniac on July 11, 2023, 08:30:10 PM
Early mentions of Malachy O'Rourke to replace Graham. Whatever you think of him as a candidate, it's hard to imagine he won't be in the county board's thoughts.

You think Cavan would be ahead of Donegal, and possibly Tyrone & Armagh and their changes in mgt?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Look-Up! on July 12, 2023, 11:58:07 AM
Would be great to get the new man in fairly quickly. You'd assume any potential candidates would be keeping a close eye on club football from now on.

League semi finals down for 22nd in Breffni. Ramor v Kingscourt and Gowna v Crosserlough. 2nd game could have plenty of neutrals at it but think a few of the Lough lads are away on holidays.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on July 13, 2023, 09:51:20 AM
Quote from: 5times5times on July 12, 2023, 10:28:33 AM
Quote from: cavanmaniac on July 11, 2023, 08:30:10 PM
Early mentions of Malachy O'Rourke to replace Graham. Whatever you think of him as a candidate, it's hard to imagine he won't be in the county board's thoughts.

You think Cavan would be ahead of Donegal, and possibly Tyrone & Armagh and their changes in mgt?

A few will be in for him I'd imagine, yes. Cavan's place in the pecking order is fairly diminished as well but he has club management experience here, not sure about the other counties but maybe there also. Hard to think of any Cavan men with the managerial chops to do the job either.

Interesting the Celt reported a lot of the current panel being in favour of Graham staying and he was veering that way until catching the board on the hop late in the day and stepping down. I find that very hard to credit but they know more than me about it I suppose.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on July 13, 2023, 10:46:41 AM
Quote from: cavanmaniac on July 13, 2023, 09:51:20 AM
Quote from: 5times5times on July 12, 2023, 10:28:33 AM
Quote from: cavanmaniac on July 11, 2023, 08:30:10 PM
Early mentions of Malachy O'Rourke to replace Graham. Whatever you think of him as a candidate, it's hard to imagine he won't be in the county board's thoughts.

You think Cavan would be ahead of Donegal, and possibly Tyrone & Armagh and their changes in mgt?

A few will be in for him I'd imagine, yes. Cavan's place in the pecking order is fairly diminished as well but he has club management experience here, not sure about the other counties but maybe there also. Hard to think of any Cavan men with the managerial chops to do the job either.

Interesting the Celt reported a lot of the current panel being in favour of Graham staying and he was veering that way until catching the board on the hop late in the day and stepping down. I find that very hard to credit but they know more than me about it I suppose.

The we are cavan podcast shed a little light on it and claimed that Ramor had requested a conversation on the county manager at the next county meeting (ironic it was Ramor in my opinion). Maybe Graham thought he wasn't going to have his name discussed like that and jumped. Its all strange as they also said he had plans already in place for next year including Ricey moving on and 2 replacement people organised to come in.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on July 13, 2023, 06:03:55 PM
However it worked behind the scenes I do think he'd have been repeating Terry Hyland's error of one year too many if he stayed on. The arse has fallen out of things entirely, and of course we'll never know how he'd have shaken it up in the 12 months ahead, but the robotic inertia of the senior team's play felt like an endurance test or form of torture this year, and he has to carry the can for that. No doubting he gave it his all though, as well as one helluva bright day against the odds.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Look-Up! on July 15, 2023, 09:12:35 PM
Monaghan showed us this year that we shouldn't necessarily be afraid of going for an inexperienced man if the passion and brain is there. Can't think of too many that fit that bill off the top of my head though especially in Cavan. Murphy and Mark McHugh from Donegal are coaches I believe- Not saying they should be in contention but a joint ticket like this or similar could generate a bit of lift like mid 90's.

If going for experience Malachy O'Rourke probably the safest shout. If Geezer left Armagh I think he'd be a great appointment. After that I'm not sure.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on July 16, 2023, 08:58:21 AM
Quote from: Look-Up! on July 15, 2023, 09:12:35 PM
Monaghan showed us this year that we shouldn't necessarily be afraid of going for an inexperienced man if the passion and brain is there. Can't think of too many that fit that bill off the top of my head though especially in Cavan. Murphy and Mark McHugh from Donegal are coaches I believe- Not saying they should be in contention but a joint ticket like this or similar could generate a bit of lift like mid 90's.

If going for experience Malachy O'Rourke probably the safest shout. If Geezer left Armagh I think he'd be a great appointment. After that I'm not sure.

McGeeney, you must be joking. He won nothing in 9 years at Armagh. He wouldn't last 3 yrs in Cavan.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Look-Up! on July 16, 2023, 11:15:52 AM
He has lasted everywhere he had been. Very popular with players. Great coach, very professional. He would be a terrific appointment for us and really shake up the squad.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on July 16, 2023, 08:57:19 PM
Quote from: Look-Up! on July 16, 2023, 11:15:52 AM
He has lasted everywhere he had been. Very popular with players. Great coach, very professional. He would be a terrific appointment for us and really shake up the squad.

And wins nothing, reaching one Ulster final in 9 seasons. You'd have to be absolutely nuts to appoint a poser like him.

I want a manager who will make these lads winners.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Cavan19 on July 17, 2023, 09:45:15 AM
We are going to need a revamp of the team and someone who can manage the crap that is going on between the Crosserlough and Gowna lads this has to be the right appointment we are not in a good place.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Look-Up! on July 17, 2023, 08:12:08 PM
Quote from: Itchy on July 16, 2023, 08:57:19 PM
Quote from: Look-Up! on July 16, 2023, 11:15:52 AM
He has lasted everywhere he had been. Very popular with players. Great coach, very professional. He would be a terrific appointment for us and really shake up the squad.

And wins nothing, reaching one Ulster final in 9 seasons. You'd have to be absolutely nuts to appoint a poser like him.

I want a manager who will make these lads winners.
A brilliant coach. Has improved every county he has managed. The consummate professional. Gives everything to the job and gets the most out of the players at his disposal. Armagh underage would be even weaker than Cavan this last decade but he has them light years ahead of us in the senior ranks. Only thing nuts is what has been allowed happen to our senior team this last few years.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mrdeeds on July 17, 2023, 10:24:26 PM
Since when is Geezer available?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Look-Up! on July 17, 2023, 10:27:13 PM
Quote from: mrdeeds on July 17, 2023, 10:24:26 PM
Since when is Geezer available?
I believe it's 50/50 at moment
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on July 17, 2023, 11:16:55 PM
Quote from: Look-Up! on July 17, 2023, 08:12:08 PM
Quote from: Itchy on July 16, 2023, 08:57:19 PM
Quote from: Look-Up! on July 16, 2023, 11:15:52 AM
He has lasted everywhere he had been. Very popular with players. Great coach, very professional. He would be a terrific appointment for us and really shake up the squad.

And wins nothing, reaching one Ulster final in 9 seasons. You'd have to be absolutely nuts to appoint a poser like him.

I want a manager who will make these lads winners.
A brilliant coach. Has improved every county he has managed. The consummate professional. Gives everything to the job and gets the most out of the players at his disposal. Armagh underage would be even weaker than Cavan this last decade but he has them light years ahead of us in the senior ranks. Only thing nuts is what has been allowed happen to our senior team this last few years.

All I can say is I'm glad you are not in charge of selecting a new manager
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Look-Up! on July 18, 2023, 01:17:59 PM
Quote from: Itchy on July 17, 2023, 11:16:55 PM
Quote from: Look-Up! on July 17, 2023, 08:12:08 PM
Quote from: Itchy on July 16, 2023, 08:57:19 PM
Quote from: Look-Up! on July 16, 2023, 11:15:52 AM
He has lasted everywhere he had been. Very popular with players. Great coach, very professional. He would be a terrific appointment for us and really shake up the squad.

And wins nothing, reaching one Ulster final in 9 seasons. You'd have to be absolutely nuts to appoint a poser like him.

I want a manager who will make these lads winners.
A brilliant coach. Has improved every county he has managed. The consummate professional. Gives everything to the job and gets the most out of the players at his disposal. Armagh underage would be even weaker than Cavan this last decade but he has them light years ahead of us in the senior ranks. Only thing nuts is what has been allowed happen to our senior team this last few years.

All I can say is I'm glad you are not in charge of selecting a new manager
Unfortunately I'd say there are a few in the CB would agree with you but I can guarantee you there are many very prominent GAA men the country over would find that attitude laughable.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on July 18, 2023, 01:54:33 PM
Could you put down on a post Kieran McGeeneys achievements as Armagh Manager - measurable ones like promotions, what he won etc. Go back to Kildare too. It shouldnt take you too long to put 12 years of management into a few lines!

There is a bit of talk in Mayo of James Horan being linked with the job, he was approached before. The lack of an even half decent road between Mayo and Cavan could be the big issue there.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Look-Up! on July 18, 2023, 02:35:40 PM
Quote from: Itchy on July 18, 2023, 01:54:33 PM
Could you put down on a post Kieran McGeeneys achievements as Armagh Manager - measurable ones like promotions, what he won etc. Go back to Kildare too. It shouldnt take you too long to put 12 years of management into a few lines!

There is a bit of talk in Mayo of James Horan being linked with the job, he was approached before. The lack of an even half decent road between Mayo and Cavan could be the big issue there.
I can only assume you're taking the piss with that question. You couldn't be that lacking in GAA knowledge. Promoted and stayed in Division 1 with Kildare. Kick of a ball away from AI final. Leinster u21 football title. 5 years unbeaten in qualifiers, something crazy like 17 consecutive wins. Tipperary looked for him in their hurling backroom team to work on mental side with players when he was between jobs. Reached AI final for first time in 3 years. Brought greatest hurling team ever to replay. Took on Armagh job fulltime afterwards. They reached AI  QF in his first year as asst. coach. Lost to eventual AI finalists Donegal by a point if I remember. Multiple promotions since including reaching and staying in Division 1. Multiple championship victories against top teams in Ulster like Donegal and Tyrone. 2 AI QF appearances and Ulster final appearance last 2 years, unbeaten in all. When you beat a McGeeney team you earn it. Anyone who thinks he's beneath us is completely and hopelessly deluded. 
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on July 19, 2023, 06:16:39 AM
Quote from: Look-Up! on July 18, 2023, 02:35:40 PM
Quote from: Itchy on July 18, 2023, 01:54:33 PM
Could you put down on a post Kieran McGeeneys achievements as Armagh Manager - measurable ones like promotions, what he won etc. Go back to Kildare too. It shouldnt take you too long to put 12 years of management into a few lines!

There is a bit of talk in Mayo of James Horan being linked with the job, he was approached before. The lack of an even half decent road between Mayo and Cavan could be the big issue there.
I can only assume you're taking the piss with that question. You couldn't be that lacking in GAA knowledge. Promoted and stayed in Division 1 with Kildare. Kick of a ball away from AI final. Leinster u21 football title. 5 years unbeaten in qualifiers, something crazy like 17 consecutive wins. Tipperary looked for him in their hurling backroom team to work on mental side with players when he was between jobs. Reached AI final for first time in 3 years. Brought greatest hurling team ever to replay. Took on Armagh job fulltime afterwards. They reached AI  QF in his first year as asst. coach. Lost to eventual AI finalists Donegal by a point if I remember. Multiple promotions since including reaching and staying in Division 1. Multiple championship victories against top teams in Ulster like Donegal and Tyrone. 2 AI QF appearances and Ulster final appearance last 2 years, unbeaten in all. When you beat a McGeeney team you earn it. Anyone who thinks he's beneath us is completely and hopelessly deluded.

Zero cups. Thats all you needed to say. 1 Ulster final appearance where thanks to his negativity they blew it. Same last year against Galway. Nearly man, to interested in being a macho man to get actual trophy's in the cabinet

You really have the horn for him, are you sure your not Seanie Johnston?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on July 19, 2023, 06:17:02 AM
Larry Reilly appointed U-20 coach
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on July 19, 2023, 09:17:19 AM
McGeeney improves teams and has proved very popular with players. On the other hand, his profile brings unwanted attention which heaps pressure on his teams. He is clearly very fond of his hard man image and that has seeped into his players.
His decision to bring Johnston on against Cavan in 2012 precludes him from ever coming to Cavan IMO, even if he wanted to.

Any word on who is in the running for the senior job?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on July 19, 2023, 10:07:33 AM
Quote from: Westside on July 19, 2023, 09:17:19 AM
McGeeney improves teams and has proved very popular with players. On the other hand, his profile brings unwanted attention which heaps pressure on his teams. He is clearly very fond of his hard man image and that has seeped into his players.
His decision to bring Johnston on against Cavan in 2012 precludes him from ever coming to Cavan IMO, even if he wanted to.

Any word on who is in the running for the senior job?

Absolutely
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mrdeeds on July 19, 2023, 01:52:38 PM
Why discuss him if he's not available. What about a young Davy Burke type ambitious manager?

Mark McHugh at Roscommon, maybe Kieran Donaghy or even someone like Mickey Hannon.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on July 19, 2023, 02:02:31 PM
Quote from: Westside on July 19, 2023, 09:17:19 AM

Any word on who is in the running for the senior job?

Celt today hinted that Hyland might well be nominated by one of the clubs, the man himself was quoted and wasn't ruling himself out by any means. Not sure what he'd bring that was any different to the first go around when - imo - he did a lot of good work but left a few big wins behind too before running out of road similar to Mickey.

On McGeeney, I share a lot of the misgivings but even someone as flawed as him is probably too high on the pecking order for Cavan as we currently stand. We're distinctly third rate and it'll only be when we stop codding ourselves about our history and legacy and status, and go back to the basics, with a lot of humility, and build from the bottom up, that things will improve sustainably. Two senior ulster titles in 54 goddamn years, for all our huffing and puffing and dreaming (me as bad as anyone) tells a tale we'd rather not acknowledge but it's there and time to stop hiding from it. So many counties have risen, fallen, and risen again in that time but we've remained mired for the most part and that's a sign we're doing it wrong too often.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: full moon on July 19, 2023, 04:19:13 PM
Quote from: mrdeeds on July 19, 2023, 01:52:38 PM
Why discuss him if he's not available. What about a young Davy Burke type ambitious manager?

Mark McHugh at Roscommon, maybe Kieran Donaghy or even someone like Mickey Hannon.
Do any of those even have managerial experience? Davy Burke had
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: full moon on July 19, 2023, 04:34:02 PM
Quote from: cavanmaniac on July 19, 2023, 02:02:31 PM
Quote from: Westside on July 19, 2023, 09:17:19 AM

Any word on who is in the running for the senior job?

Celt today hinted that Hyland might well be nominated by one of the clubs, the man himself was quoted and wasn't ruling himself out by any means. Not sure what he'd bring that was any different to the first go around when - imo - he did a lot of good work but left a few big wins behind too before running out of road similar to Mickey.

On McGeeney, I share a lot of the misgivings but even someone as flawed as him is probably too high on the pecking order for Cavan as we currently stand. We're distinctly third rate and it'll only be when we stop codding ourselves about our history and legacy and status, and go back to the basics, with a lot of humility, and build from the bottom up, that things will improve sustainably. Two senior ulster titles in 54 goddamn years, for all our huffing and puffing and dreaming (me as bad as anyone) tells a tale we'd rather not acknowledge but it's there and time to stop hiding from it. So many counties have risen, fallen, and risen again in that time but we've remained mired for the most part and that's a sign we're doing it wrong too often.

Well I'd imagine the daydreaming of many of our supporters of supposed big names being interested, which surely was never realistic will be brought back down to earth hearing that. We were unlikely to get anyone that even has a resume to match Graham. And it appears not many of our club managers had the experience or CV.

What about Steven Poacher type figure in the backroom. He's certainly a very impressive coach tactically, a real student of the game. Whether is more of a backroom coach or manager I have no idea.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Westside on July 19, 2023, 05:21:24 PM
Quote from: cavanmaniac on July 19, 2023, 02:02:31 PM
Quote from: Westside on July 19, 2023, 09:17:19 AM

Any word on who is in the running for the senior job?

Celt today hinted that Hyland might well be nominated by one of the clubs, the man himself was quoted and wasn't ruling himself out by any means. Not sure what he'd bring that was any different to the first go around when - imo - he did a lot of good work but left a few big wins behind too before running out of road similar to Mickey.

On McGeeney, I share a lot of the misgivings but even someone as flawed as him is probably too high on the pecking order for Cavan as we currently stand. We're distinctly third rate and it'll only be when we stop codding ourselves about our history and legacy and status, and go back to the basics, with a lot of humility, and build from the bottom up, that things will improve sustainably. Two senior ulster titles in 54 goddamn years, for all our huffing and puffing and dreaming (me as bad as anyone) tells a tale we'd rather not acknowledge but it's there and time to stop hiding from it. So many counties have risen, fallen, and risen again in that time but we've remained mired for the most part and that's a sign we're doing it wrong too often.

Your second paragraph is a tough pill to swallow but an excellent summation of the state of affairs.

It all comes down to the underage really. Look what Derry have done since they got their house in order.

You would hope that the player pathway and academy manager initiatives will make a tangible difference and we can get the conveyor belt rolling again, keep the senior team in Division 2 and then look to where other changes need to be made. Schools I'd imagine should be number 1 on that list.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on July 19, 2023, 07:57:21 PM
Quote from: Look-Up! on July 17, 2023, 08:12:08 PM
Quote from: Itchy on July 16, 2023, 08:57:19 PM
Quote from: Look-Up! on July 16, 2023, 11:15:52 AM
He has lasted everywhere he had been. Very popular with players. Great coach, very professional. He would be a terrific appointment for us and really shake up the squad.

And wins nothing, reaching one Ulster final in 9 seasons. You'd have to be absolutely nuts to appoint a poser like him.

I want a manager who will make these lads winners.
A brilliant coach. Has improved every county he has managed. The consummate professional. Gives everything to the job and gets the most out of the players at his disposal. Armagh underage would be even weaker than Cavan this last decade but he has them light years ahead of us in the senior ranks. Only thing nuts is what has been allowed happen to our senior team this last few years.

I think McGeeney stayed on a year too long with Kildare and Armagh.  He lost a ballot 29-28 to stay on as manager with Kildare. They weren't happy with the costs of having McGeeney as manager.

Armagh have had little underage succcess ,but better individual attacking players then Cavan. They did win a Minor All Ireland in 09 where a few of the current team would have been involved.   https://www.rte.ie/sport/football/2009/0920/255042-armagh_mayo/
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Look-Up! on July 19, 2023, 10:37:08 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on July 19, 2023, 07:57:21 PM
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He has lasted everywhere he had been. Very popular with players. Great coach, very professional. He would be a terrific appointment for us and really shake up the squad.

And wins nothing, reaching one Ulster final in 9 seasons. You'd have to be absolutely nuts to appoint a poser like him.

I want a manager who will make these lads winners.
A brilliant coach. Has improved every county he has managed. The consummate professional. Gives everything to the job and gets the most out of the players at his disposal. Armagh underage would be even weaker than Cavan this last decade but he has them light years ahead of us in the senior ranks. Only thing nuts is what has been allowed happen to our senior team this last few years.

I think McGeeney stayed on a year too long with Kildare and Armagh.  He lost a ballot 29-28 to stay on as manager with Kildare. They weren't happy with the costs of having McGeeney as manager.

Armagh have had little underage succcess ,but better individual attacking players then Cavan. They did win a Minor All Ireland in 09 where a few of the current team would have been involved.   https://www.rte.ie/sport/football/2009/0920/255042-armagh_mayo/
They probably felt after 6 years he had brought them as far as he could and they needed someone to get them the extra push but they went the opposite direction once he left. He's 10 years now with Armagh if you count 2014. I think when the dust settles on their season they'll ask him to stay but if not, I believe the Cavan job is one he'd take. It'd be a big risk for him but one that could be very beneficial to both parties.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Cavan19 on July 20, 2023, 09:17:47 AM
Quote from: Look-Up! on July 19, 2023, 10:37:08 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on July 19, 2023, 07:57:21 PM
Quote from: Look-Up! on July 17, 2023, 08:12:08 PM
Quote from: Itchy on July 16, 2023, 08:57:19 PM
Quote from: Look-Up! on July 16, 2023, 11:15:52 AM
He has lasted everywhere he had been. Very popular with players. Great coach, very professional. He would be a terrific appointment for us and really shake up the squad.

And wins nothing, reaching one Ulster final in 9 seasons. You'd have to be absolutely nuts to appoint a poser like him.

I want a manager who will make these lads winners.
A brilliant coach. Has improved every county he has managed. The consummate professional. Gives everything to the job and gets the most out of the players at his disposal. Armagh underage would be even weaker than Cavan this last decade but he has them light years ahead of us in the senior ranks. Only thing nuts is what has been allowed happen to our senior team this last few years.

I think McGeeney stayed on a year too long with Kildare and Armagh.  He lost a ballot 29-28 to stay on as manager with Kildare. They weren't happy with the costs of having McGeeney as manager.

Armagh have had little underage succcess ,but better individual attacking players then Cavan. They did win a Minor All Ireland in 09 where a few of the current team would have been involved.   https://www.rte.ie/sport/football/2009/0920/255042-armagh_mayo/
They probably felt after 6 years he had brought them as far as he could and they needed someone to get them the extra push but they went the opposite direction once he left. He's 10 years now with Armagh if you count 2014. I think when the dust settles on their season they'll ask him to stay but if not, I believe the Cavan job is one he'd take. It'd be a big risk for him but one that could be very beneficial to both parties.

Do we really want to be called "Kieran McGeeney's Cavan"?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on July 20, 2023, 09:55:34 AM
Quote from: Look-Up! on July 19, 2023, 10:37:08 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on July 19, 2023, 07:57:21 PM
Quote from: Look-Up! on July 17, 2023, 08:12:08 PM
Quote from: Itchy on July 16, 2023, 08:57:19 PM
Quote from: Look-Up! on July 16, 2023, 11:15:52 AM
He has lasted everywhere he had been. Very popular with players. Great coach, very professional. He would be a terrific appointment for us and really shake up the squad.

And wins nothing, reaching one Ulster final in 9 seasons. You'd have to be absolutely nuts to appoint a poser like him.

I want a manager who will make these lads winners.
A brilliant coach. Has improved every county he has managed. The consummate professional. Gives everything to the job and gets the most out of the players at his disposal. Armagh underage would be even weaker than Cavan this last decade but he has them light years ahead of us in the senior ranks. Only thing nuts is what has been allowed happen to our senior team this last few years.

I think McGeeney stayed on a year too long with Kildare and Armagh.  He lost a ballot 29-28 to stay on as manager with Kildare. They weren't happy with the costs of having McGeeney as manager.

Armagh have had little underage succcess ,but better individual attacking players then Cavan. They did win a Minor All Ireland in 09 where a few of the current team would have been involved.   https://www.rte.ie/sport/football/2009/0920/255042-armagh_mayo/
They probably felt after 6 years he had brought them as far as he could and they needed someone to get them the extra push but they went the opposite direction once he left. He's 10 years now with Armagh if you count 2014. I think when the dust settles on their season they'll ask him to stay but if not, I believe the Cavan job is one he'd take. It'd be a big risk for him but one that could be very beneficial to both parties.

I don't see him being that long with Armagh to going to another Ulster county. He brought a lot of aggression to Armagh, involved in lots of rows. But seemed to lack a bit tactically. Vinny Corey in his first year had got the better of McGeeney in the quarter finals.

I think cavan should look outside Ulster If it's an outside manager
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Look-Up! on July 20, 2023, 11:03:59 AM
Quote from: rodney trotter on July 20, 2023, 09:55:34 AM
Quote from: Look-Up! on July 19, 2023, 10:37:08 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on July 19, 2023, 07:57:21 PM
Quote from: Look-Up! on July 17, 2023, 08:12:08 PM
Quote from: Itchy on July 16, 2023, 08:57:19 PM
Quote from: Look-Up! on July 16, 2023, 11:15:52 AM
He has lasted everywhere he had been. Very popular with players. Great coach, very professional. He would be a terrific appointment for us and really shake up the squad.

And wins nothing, reaching one Ulster final in 9 seasons. You'd have to be absolutely nuts to appoint a poser like him.

I want a manager who will make these lads winners.
A brilliant coach. Has improved every county he has managed. The consummate professional. Gives everything to the job and gets the most out of the players at his disposal. Armagh underage would be even weaker than Cavan this last decade but he has them light years ahead of us in the senior ranks. Only thing nuts is what has been allowed happen to our senior team this last few years.

I think McGeeney stayed on a year too long with Kildare and Armagh.  He lost a ballot 29-28 to stay on as manager with Kildare. They weren't happy with the costs of having McGeeney as manager.

Armagh have had little underage succcess ,but better individual attacking players then Cavan. They did win a Minor All Ireland in 09 where a few of the current team would have been involved.   https://www.rte.ie/sport/football/2009/0920/255042-armagh_mayo/
They probably felt after 6 years he had brought them as far as he could and they needed someone to get them the extra push but they went the opposite direction once he left. He's 10 years now with Armagh if you count 2014. I think when the dust settles on their season they'll ask him to stay but if not, I believe the Cavan job is one he'd take. It'd be a big risk for him but one that could be very beneficial to both parties.

I don't see him being that long with Armagh to going to another Ulster county. He brought a lot of aggression to Armagh, involved in lots of rows. But seemed to lack a bit tactically. Vinny Corey in his first year had got the better of McGeeney in the quarter finals.

I think cavan should look outside Ulster If it's an outside manager
Armagh beat them in the league, they drew in championship.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on July 20, 2023, 12:37:25 PM
Rory Beggan left his goal stranded in the league game and Armgh got a handy goal. it was a game Monaghan should have won without a good few.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on July 20, 2023, 07:58:45 PM
Quote from: cavanmaniac on July 19, 2023, 02:02:31 PM
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Any word on who is in the running for the senior job?

Celt today hinted that Hyland might well be nominated by one of the clubs, the man himself was quoted and wasn't ruling himself out by any means. Not sure what he'd bring that was any different to the first go around when - imo - he did a lot of good work but left a few big wins behind too before running out of road similar to Mickey.

On McGeeney, I share a lot of the misgivings but even someone as flawed as him is probably too high on the pecking order for Cavan as we currently stand. We're distinctly third rate and it'll only be when we stop codding ourselves about our history and legacy and status, and go back to the basics, with a lot of humility, and build from the bottom up, that things will improve sustainably. Two senior ulster titles in 54 goddamn years, for all our huffing and puffing and dreaming (me as bad as anyone) tells a tale we'd rather not acknowledge but it's there and time to stop hiding from it. So many counties have risen, fallen, and risen again in that time but we've remained mired for the most part and that's a sign we're doing it wrong too often.

I am a fan of Terry, a great GAA man who has done great things for Cavan. However, I don't think that would be the right move for Cavan or for Terry. At this stage we need a new voice in there. If we could do what Louth did and get a financial back to get a Jim Gavin or high profile man in it would be a lift the county needs but maybe I am dreaming but I think that way we would have a chance to convince lads to give it another go.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Look-Up! on July 20, 2023, 09:49:11 PM
Quote from: Cavan19 on July 20, 2023, 09:17:47 AM
Quote from: Look-Up! on July 19, 2023, 10:37:08 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on July 19, 2023, 07:57:21 PM
Quote from: Look-Up! on July 17, 2023, 08:12:08 PM
Quote from: Itchy on July 16, 2023, 08:57:19 PM
Quote from: Look-Up! on July 16, 2023, 11:15:52 AM
He has lasted everywhere he had been. Very popular with players. Great coach, very professional. He would be a terrific appointment for us and really shake up the squad.

And wins nothing, reaching one Ulster final in 9 seasons. You'd have to be absolutely nuts to appoint a poser like him.

I want a manager who will make these lads winners.
A brilliant coach. Has improved every county he has managed. The consummate professional. Gives everything to the job and gets the most out of the players at his disposal. Armagh underage would be even weaker than Cavan this last decade but he has them light years ahead of us in the senior ranks. Only thing nuts is what has been allowed happen to our senior team this last few years.

I think McGeeney stayed on a year too long with Kildare and Armagh.  He lost a ballot 29-28 to stay on as manager with Kildare. They weren't happy with the costs of having McGeeney as manager.

Armagh have had little underage succcess ,but better individual attacking players then Cavan. They did win a Minor All Ireland in 09 where a few of the current team would have been involved.   https://www.rte.ie/sport/football/2009/0920/255042-armagh_mayo/
They probably felt after 6 years he had brought them as far as he could and they needed someone to get them the extra push but they went the opposite direction once he left. He's 10 years now with Armagh if you count 2014. I think when the dust settles on their season they'll ask him to stay but if not, I believe the Cavan job is one he'd take. It'd be a big risk for him but one that could be very beneficial to both parties.

Do we really want to be called "Kieran McGeeney's Cavan"?
I couldn't care less what we're called or who's over us. We've all played for and with people we disliked but what matters is only what happens on field. As long as I see a Cavan team consistently giving 100% in every match and every jersey number fought hard for I really don't care about names or losses. That was a great post by cavanmaniac and hit the nail on head. It's that Cavan attitude that Eamon Coleman couldn't get over and was trying to change (with good effect until the unfortunate). The notion there's instant gratification in football without the hard work and slog.

Terry Hyland recognised this and made great progress with sustainable consistent improvements. But a few tough losses and media getting on his back with the Black Death label and people turned. F**k em!! F**k what people think, what ill informed journalists call us. As long as I see a Cavan team consistently giving 100% in every match and every jersey number fought hard for I really don't care.

I think McGeeney would be a great fit for us. He's similar to Coleman in that he looks to what's at the heart of a player. Do you want it? Not would you like it if the buy in is not too dear or if the ball bounces nicely for you. DO YOU WANT IT. Period. So if he bought into us long term and got that mentality back of the Hyland era where we fought like dogs for every scrap, I wouldn't care less what noses he puts out of joint or what we're called. And he certainly wouldn't be selling the nonsense that you can drop the ball big time in the league but somehow there'll be instant gratification come championship.
 
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on July 20, 2023, 10:48:31 PM
Quote from: Look-Up! on July 20, 2023, 09:49:11 PM
Quote from: Cavan19 on July 20, 2023, 09:17:47 AM
Quote from: Look-Up! on July 19, 2023, 10:37:08 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on July 19, 2023, 07:57:21 PM
Quote from: Look-Up! on July 17, 2023, 08:12:08 PM
Quote from: Itchy on July 16, 2023, 08:57:19 PM
Quote from: Look-Up! on July 16, 2023, 11:15:52 AM
He has lasted everywhere he had been. Very popular with players. Great coach, very professional. He would be a terrific appointment for us and really shake up the squad.

And wins nothing, reaching one Ulster final in 9 seasons. You'd have to be absolutely nuts to appoint a poser like him.

I want a manager who will make these lads winners.
A brilliant coach. Has improved every county he has managed. The consummate professional. Gives everything to the job and gets the most out of the players at his disposal. Armagh underage would be even weaker than Cavan this last decade but he has them light years ahead of us in the senior ranks. Only thing nuts is what has been allowed happen to our senior team this last few years.

I think McGeeney stayed on a year too long with Kildare and Armagh.  He lost a ballot 29-28 to stay on as manager with Kildare. They weren't happy with the costs of having McGeeney as manager.

Armagh have had little underage succcess ,but better individual attacking players then Cavan. They did win a Minor All Ireland in 09 where a few of the current team would have been involved.   https://www.rte.ie/sport/football/2009/0920/255042-armagh_mayo/
They probably felt after 6 years he had brought them as far as he could and they needed someone to get them the extra push but they went the opposite direction once he left. He's 10 years now with Armagh if you count 2014. I think when the dust settles on their season they'll ask him to stay but if not, I believe the Cavan job is one he'd take. It'd be a big risk for him but one that could be very beneficial to both parties.

Do we really want to be called "Kieran McGeeney's Cavan"?
I couldn't care less what we're called or who's over us. We've all played for and with people we disliked but what matters is only what happens on field. As long as I see a Cavan team consistently giving 100% in every match and every jersey number fought hard for I really don't care about names or losses. That was a great post by cavanmaniac and hit the nail on head. It's that Cavan attitude that Eamon Coleman couldn't get over and was trying to change (with good effect until the unfortunate). The notion there's instant gratification in football without the hard work and slog.

Terry Hyland recognised this and made great progress with sustainable consistent improvements. But a few tough losses and media getting on his back with the Black Death label and people turned. F**k em!! F**k what people think, what ill informed journalists call us. As long as I see a Cavan team consistently giving 100% in every match and every jersey number fought hard for I really don't care.

I think McGeeney would be a great fit for us. He's similar to Coleman in that he looks to what's at the heart of a player. Do you want it? Not would you like it if the buy in is not too dear or if the ball bounces nicely for you. DO YOU WANT IT. Period. So if he bought into us long term and got that mentality back of the Hyland era where we fought like dogs for every scrap, I wouldn't care less what noses he puts out of joint or what we're called. And he certainly wouldn't be selling the nonsense that you can drop the ball big time in the league but somehow there'll be instant gratification come championship.


Do you know McGeeney, you seem to have opinions about him that could only be truly know by a player who played for him.
What do you think of how he tactically fucked up their chance of winning Ulster this year by refusing to push up on Derry when they had an extra man. What you think of him then not learning from that and doing the same thing a few weeks later against Monaghan. If Graham did that he'd be lambasted.

The ONLY reason McGeeney is still manager in Armagh is the money he generates. I don't think too many Armagh fans think his tenure was successful either. And after the Seanie Johnstons shambles no way I'd let the likes of him near our country team. You are certainly in a minority I would say too wanting him to come here.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Look-Up! on July 21, 2023, 12:45:53 PM
I don't understand your statement about the money generated.

Nobody's perfect. From the Ulster final I saw, both teams tried their level best to lose it in the end. It was decided on penalties. Same as Monaghan match. Pure luck. Vinny Corey didn't even bother preparing his team for penalties in the run up to the QF. Didn't see the point in needlessly annoying players with more noise. Sensible approach. Had they lost though, it would have been unfairly used as a rod for his back by some I'm sure. Only a few inches differ from a pat on the back and a kick up the arse.

There are other options. James Horan I wouldn't mind but I just don't see the practicality. And if he did it would be a short term appointment I'd imagine. It would give plenty of Cavan fans instant gratification though. Big name with "cups" on his CV. But provincial titles with that Mayo team was hardly breaking new ground. Don't get me wrong, a terrific manager, raised the performance of his team, some epic days out, heroic losses, but his remit was an AI because that was the next step. And he fell short.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on July 21, 2023, 05:04:20 PM
Quote from: Look-Up! on July 21, 2023, 12:45:53 PM
I don't understand your statement about the money generated.

Nobody's perfect. From the Ulster final I saw, both teams tried their level best to lose it in the end. It was decided on penalties. Same as Monaghan match. Pure luck. Vinny Corey didn't even bother preparing his team for penalties in the run up to the QF. Didn't see the point in needlessly annoying players with more noise. Sensible approach. Had they lost though, it would have been unfairly used as a rod for his back by some I'm sure. Only a few inches differ from a pat on the back and a kick up the arse.

There are other options. James Horan I wouldn't mind but I just don't see the practicality. And if he did it would be a short term appointment I'd imagine. It would give plenty of Cavan fans instant gratification though. Big name with "cups" on his CV. But provincial titles with that Mayo team was hardly breaking new ground. Don't get me wrong, a terrific manager, raised the performance of his team, some epic days out, heroic losses, but his remit was an AI because that was the next step. And he fell short.

The man has god like status with some in Armagh. He brings in piles of money in sponsorship rending him effectively cost neutral.

If James Horan's remit was to win Sam (and he failed) wasn't McGeeney remit to win Ulster and he had way longer to do it. Horan won other trophies along the way too.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Look-Up! on July 21, 2023, 06:30:30 PM
Quote from: Itchy on July 21, 2023, 05:04:20 PM
Quote from: Look-Up! on July 21, 2023, 12:45:53 PM
I don't understand your statement about the money generated.

Nobody's perfect. From the Ulster final I saw, both teams tried their level best to lose it in the end. It was decided on penalties. Same as Monaghan match. Pure luck. Vinny Corey didn't even bother preparing his team for penalties in the run up to the QF. Didn't see the point in needlessly annoying players with more noise. Sensible approach. Had they lost though, it would have been unfairly used as a rod for his back by some I'm sure. Only a few inches differ from a pat on the back and a kick up the arse.

There are other options. James Horan I wouldn't mind but I just don't see the practicality. And if he did it would be a short term appointment I'd imagine. It would give plenty of Cavan fans instant gratification though. Big name with "cups" on his CV. But provincial titles with that Mayo team was hardly breaking new ground. Don't get me wrong, a terrific manager, raised the performance of his team, some epic days out, heroic losses, but his remit was an AI because that was the next step. And he fell short.

The man has god like status with some in Armagh. He brings in piles of money in sponsorship rending him effectively cost neutral.

If James Horan's remit was to win Sam (and he failed) wasn't McGeeney remit to win Ulster and he had way longer to do it. Horan won other trophies along the way too.
Hence why he might leave Armagh. Horan had 8 seasons with Mayo actually, pretty similar. McGeeney won a couple of cups with Armagh along the way, low level stuff but all relative to where he started with them. Might have had a Division 2 cup too if they had got the chance to contest final. But that's splitting hairs, you need to look beyond cups. Getting the right fit is more important than some check box exercise on cups. If McGeeney was from Mayo and Horan from Armagh I'd prefer to get Horan. I just don't think it's practical to commute from Mayo long term and I'm not sure someone from Mayo would see the Cavan job as that plump a number.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on July 22, 2023, 11:07:53 AM
Horan was linked previously but ruled himself out. That was when McGleenan got the job. Cavan job looked better then with the age profile and playing in Division 1 in 2017.

Would Eamon Murray who managed the Meath ladies be interested. He's from Gowna orginally
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Look-Up! on July 22, 2023, 12:50:27 PM
Would certainly be a bold move. Big difference and step up from what he's used to. Too risky.

I'd be happy with O'Rourke or McDermott. If Geezer became available I'd be very happy. A Vinny Corey type appointment would be good too but can't think of any. Micky Harte would be terrific but not available. After that I'm struggling.

Inside Cavan I don't know. Peter Reilly was mentioned somewhere but it'd be a massive step up for him. Hyland mentioned. Good manager, not sure how players would take it and some Cavan fans are very anti. If they really struggle to find someone I could see Keoghan/McCabe enter contention. That could backfire! Let's hope we get someone from the top of the list.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on July 22, 2023, 04:43:09 PM
Keoghan rules himself out thankfully, we dont need lock ins and all the bull shit he brings
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Look-Up! on July 22, 2023, 10:05:29 PM
Jesus that was some washout in Breffni this evening. Horrible horrible conditions for football. Ramor Kingscourt draw. Lough edge out Gowna in a second half that looked more like water polo. No Paddy Lynch or Conor Brady on show. Stephen and Pierce Smith also missing for Lough.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mrdeeds on July 24, 2023, 12:15:58 PM
Raymond Galligan nominated a strange one with Jayo and McDermot.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on July 24, 2023, 12:49:17 PM
Quote from: mrdeeds on July 24, 2023, 12:15:58 PM
Raymond Galligan nominated a strange one with Jayo and McDermot.

Assume that means liam brady might get a run out next year so ;)

You wouldnt be jumping with excitement looking at those nominations. McDermott is a strange one, on the face of it has  done some great things but then never got a run at a county team since Clare for some reason. Is he too old school for the modern gurus? Galligan is  total wildcard, has he done any coaching? I wonder will the committee looking into this go out and approach other outside candidates
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Look-Up! on July 24, 2023, 01:05:21 PM
You'd hope there'd be a few more applications too, to add to that list. For Jayo, the step up is likely too big but I could see it happen. As for Galligan, no from me. He has done some underage coaching at his club, but no. 
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on July 24, 2023, 02:56:47 PM
Quote from: Itchy on July 24, 2023, 12:49:17 PM
Quote from: mrdeeds on July 24, 2023, 12:15:58 PM
Raymond Galligan nominated a strange one with Jayo and McDermot.

Assume that means liam brady might get a run out next year so ;)

You wouldnt be jumping with excitement looking at those nominations. McDermott is a strange one, on the face of it has  done some great things but then never got a run at a county team since Clare for some reason. Is he too old school for the modern gurus? Galligan is  total wildcard, has he done any coaching? I wonder will the committee looking into this go out and approach other outside candidates

McDermott was in for the Cavan job when Graham got it. He went for the Meath job last year when too. He is worth a go as a manager. A lot of success and as Club manager and was decent as Clare manager m
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dreadnought on July 24, 2023, 02:57:40 PM
Quote from: Look-Up! on July 24, 2023, 01:05:21 PM
You'd hope there'd be a few more applications too, to add to that list. For Jayo, the step up is likely too big but I could see it happen. As for Galligan, no from me. He has done some underage coaching at his club, but no.

The more I think about it, the more I think it might work. The way the game has gone, it's so tactical and technical and someone recently involved/still playing may know as much as anyone and how to get around it. It needs a manager who is able to play a way to get the most out of the game, along with a strong backroom team. If someone is able to do that, and is technically up to the task of reading the game and knowing how to set up, I see no reason why he couldn't work. He wouldn't actually be running the coaching anyway. Managers rarely do these days apart from a few sessions here and there
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dreadnought on July 24, 2023, 02:58:35 PM
Quote from: Look-Up! on July 24, 2023, 01:05:21 PM
You'd hope there'd be a few more applications too, to add to that list. For Jayo, the step up is likely too big but I could see it happen. As for Galligan, no from me. He has done some underage coaching at his club, but no.
Indeed. these are only the club nominations by deadline, I'm sure there will be the usual handful of outside manager applications.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Look-Up! on July 24, 2023, 04:52:02 PM
Didn't see the Hollywood nomination coming nor couldn't see it working. Bit shouty and doesn't strike me as a players type of player. Our squad is not in a good place right now, I'd rather avoid an out and out wild card.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on August 02, 2023, 03:05:41 PM
Down's Danny Hughes has put himself forward for the job, the Celt has revealed.

I know little to nothing about him - perhaps revealing enough in itself - but thinking in terms of McGeeney, James Horan and Mickey Harte, but hearing Galligan, McDermott, Jason Reilly and Danny Hughes instead, kind of underlines my earlier point about us having fierce delusions of grandeur here in Cavan! The plainer view from outside puts a different shade on things for sure.

Of course, any one of those guys might well turn out to be a great appointment, and let's hope so. Just very hard to be positive given Cavan's (largely) lamentable fortunes over the years.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on August 02, 2023, 04:01:54 PM
Quote from: cavanmaniac on August 02, 2023, 03:05:41 PM
Down's Danny Hughes has put himself forward for the job, the Celt has revealed.

I know little to nothing about him - perhaps revealing enough in itself - but thinking in terms of McGeeney, James Horan and Mickey Harte, but hearing Galligan, McDermott, Jason Reilly and Danny Hughes instead, kind of underlines my earlier point about us having fierce delusions of grandeur here in Cavan! The plainer view from outside puts a different shade on things for sure.

Of course, any one of those guys might well turn out to be a great appointment, and let's hope so. Just very hard to be positive given Cavan's (largely) lamentable fortunes over the years.

That's it, easy to shout for Graham's head when there's nothing better out there.(although I do think a new fresh perspective was needed). The question is have these big names been approached and the sale made to them? You'd hope so. If they all said no then fair enough
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on August 02, 2023, 04:44:07 PM
Quote from: Itchy on August 02, 2023, 04:01:54 PM
Quote from: cavanmaniac on August 02, 2023, 03:05:41 PM
Down's Danny Hughes has put himself forward for the job, the Celt has revealed.

I know little to nothing about him - perhaps revealing enough in itself - but thinking in terms of McGeeney, James Horan and Mickey Harte, but hearing Galligan, McDermott, Jason Reilly and Danny Hughes instead, kind of underlines my earlier point about us having fierce delusions of grandeur here in Cavan! The plainer view from outside puts a different shade on things for sure.

Of course, any one of those guys might well turn out to be a great appointment, and let's hope so. Just very hard to be positive given Cavan's (largely) lamentable fortunes over the years.

That's it, easy to shout for Graham's head when there's nothing better out there.(although I do think a new fresh perspective was needed). The question is have these big names been approached and the sale made to them? You'd hope so. If they all said no then fair enough

A lot of names were approached after Terry Hylamd in 2016 and turned Cavan down. The age profile was good then and Cavan had Division 1 football.

A lot of players are in 30s now so will be a turnover for a new manager in next few years
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Look-Up! on August 02, 2023, 10:27:29 PM
Louth got Mickey Harte. If you have the right ambition in place the Cavan job is very sellable. 
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on August 02, 2023, 10:51:24 PM
Mickey Harte was good friends with the Louth chairman Peter Fitzpatrick and has relations living in Louth, He probaly felt he had a point to prove after way it ended in Tyrone and given his age, one last go at Inter County. He has done well with a dogged defensive system getting up a few Divisions ,but then went all out in the Leinster final against Dublin and taken apart.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Cavan19 on August 03, 2023, 10:55:38 AM
Quote from: Look-Up! on August 02, 2023, 10:27:29 PM
Louth got Mickey Harte. If you have the right ambition in place the Cavan job is very sellable.

You mean offering the right money!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: 5times5times on August 03, 2023, 11:18:41 AM
Quote from: rodney trotter on August 02, 2023, 10:51:24 PM
Mickey Harte was good friends with the Louth chairman Peter Fitzpatrick and has relations living in Louth, He probaly felt he had a point to prove after way it ended in Tyrone and given his age, one last go at Inter County. He has done well with a dogged defensive system getting up a few Divisions ,but then went all out in the Leinster final against Dublin and taken apart.

And a truck load of cash coming from statSports & other income streams.. Love of Louth me ar$e
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Look-Up! on August 03, 2023, 02:24:03 PM
Quote from: Cavan19 on August 03, 2023, 10:55:38 AM
Quote from: Look-Up! on August 02, 2023, 10:27:29 PM
Louth got Mickey Harte. If you have the right ambition in place the Cavan job is very sellable.

You mean offering the right money!
No manager will do anything for free. When you take in expenses for doctors, physios, all the additional analysts and extras that come with a proper professional setup, even mileage for players and basic nutrition, what the manager himself pockets is only a fraction. More important staying higher up the leagues and getting paying customers in the door than saving on pennies on a manager.

We have a decent squad, some decent young players and more knocking on the door. We are a football county. Competing in D2 would be seen by many as a minimum for us, deluded or not, and the Cavan job should be tempting enough for someone with ambition or someone with experience elsewhere who feel they have "something to prove". How tempting depends on the offer on the table of course. No money means no extras means less professional support means less enthusiastic players means no thanks. A clued up manager will sniff a pile of dung from a mile away.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on August 03, 2023, 03:24:32 PM
Quote from: 5times5times on August 03, 2023, 11:18:41 AM
Quote from: rodney trotter on August 02, 2023, 10:51:24 PM
Mickey Harte was good friends with the Louth chairman Peter Fitzpatrick and has relations living in Louth, He probaly felt he had a point to prove after way it ended in Tyrone and given his age, one last go at Inter County. He has done well with a dogged defensive system getting up a few Divisions ,but then went all out in the Leinster final against Dublin and taken apart.

And a truck load of cash coming from statSports & other income streams.. Love of Louth me ar$e

Didn't say he was doing it for nothing. Louth have had no underage success and were in Division 4. He could have held out for other jobs.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Cavan19 on August 04, 2023, 12:49:40 PM
Quote from: Look-Up! on August 03, 2023, 02:24:03 PM
Quote from: Cavan19 on August 03, 2023, 10:55:38 AM
Quote from: Look-Up! on August 02, 2023, 10:27:29 PM
Louth got Mickey Harte. If you have the right ambition in place the Cavan job is very sellable.

You mean offering the right money!
No manager will do anything for free. When you take in expenses for doctors, physios, all the additional analysts and extras that come with a proper professional setup, even mileage for players and basic nutrition, what the manager himself pockets is only a fraction. More important staying higher up the leagues and getting paying customers in the door than saving on pennies on a manager.

We have a decent squad, some decent young players and more knocking on the door. We are a football county. Competing in D2 would be seen by many as a minimum for us, deluded or not, and the Cavan job should be tempting enough for someone with ambition or someone with experience elsewhere who feel they have "something to prove". How tempting depends on the offer on the table of course. No money means no extras means less professional support means less enthusiastic players means no thanks. A clued up manager will sniff a pile of dung from a mile away.

A manger doesn't care who pays all that as long as he gets his wedge.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Look-Up! on August 04, 2023, 01:39:32 PM
Quote from: Cavan19 on August 04, 2023, 12:49:40 PM
Quote from: Look-Up! on August 03, 2023, 02:24:03 PM
Quote from: Cavan19 on August 03, 2023, 10:55:38 AM
Quote from: Look-Up! on August 02, 2023, 10:27:29 PM
Louth got Mickey Harte. If you have the right ambition in place the Cavan job is very sellable.

You mean offering the right money!
No manager will do anything for free. When you take in expenses for doctors, physios, all the additional analysts and extras that come with a proper professional setup, even mileage for players and basic nutrition, what the manager himself pockets is only a fraction. More important staying higher up the leagues and getting paying customers in the door than saving on pennies on a manager.

We have a decent squad, some decent young players and more knocking on the door. We are a football county. Competing in D2 would be seen by many as a minimum for us, deluded or not, and the Cavan job should be tempting enough for someone with ambition or someone with experience elsewhere who feel they have "something to prove". How tempting depends on the offer on the table of course. No money means no extras means less professional support means less enthusiastic players means no thanks. A clued up manager will sniff a pile of dung from a mile away.

A manger doesn't care who pays all that as long as he gets his wedge.
A good manager will want a professional setup and see a CB with vision, ambition and the financial means to put it in action. They are putting their professional reputation on the line.

Of course there are other managers who just want the gig and see how long they can milk the IC circuit till they return to the club scene but they are the ones we need to avoid. A good manager will improve the finances of a CB if they can get up the leagues and get some big teams into Breffni. With the group stages of AI championship there are more opportunities for bigger championship matches in Breffni, but attendances will depend on firstly, getting into AI stage, and secondly actually being competitive against bigger counties and maybe having a realistic chance at winning a couple of matches and making a QF. To do all that will not be achieved from counting the coppers from the penny jar. And the "wedge" the manager gets will only be a fraction. So why skimp on such a crucial position that ties everything together when the outlays elsewhere are so high anyway.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on August 23, 2023, 09:13:08 PM
Raymond Galligan is the new senior team manager.


Discuss.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on August 23, 2023, 09:25:12 PM
Quote from: cavanmaniac on August 23, 2023, 09:13:08 PM
Raymond Galligan is the new senior team manager.


Discuss.

Good luck to him and the backroom team.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: mrdeeds on August 23, 2023, 09:46:59 PM
It's hard to know how he'll do but first impressions are good as he's put some impressive team together.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Look-Up! on August 24, 2023, 08:03:19 AM
Far from many people's first choice, including my own, but if he gets the results people will come round fairly quickly.

Sometimes appointments with all the razzmatazz fall flat and sometimes leaps of faith reap dividends. Time will tell. Good luck to him.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on August 24, 2023, 08:44:43 AM
A bit of a leap of faith is a good way to look at it. Some interesting backroom names there, hopefully they're on the ticket for the longer term and not just intercounty tourists.

Raymond has a big job ahead of him with very little experience but the people around him should help there. You couldn't be overly confident but of course we wish him the best of luck. As the fella says, a few decent early league results would get people onside and build momentum.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: marty34 on August 24, 2023, 08:51:32 AM
He'll have to be ruthless with a lot of the lads he played with.

He's soldiered with a lot of them.

Positive thing is he knows them and has a great knowledge of the modern game and training etc.

Was there many other options available to Cavan?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on August 24, 2023, 08:58:09 AM
Jason Reilly and Michael McDermott were the other candidates from Cavan. McDermott pulled out early in the week.
Raymond Galligan has a good backroom team which probably swayed it.

Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dreadnought on August 24, 2023, 09:59:07 AM
Quite a strong team he has put together. It's a bit of a punt, but he has surrounded himself with strong people which can cover up for gaps he know he can't cover. I'm intrigued anyway. The way the game has gone last few years, we may well find that a recent player might very well be at the forefront and knows what is needed to innovate, and can read the game properly. The simply facts are that we did not have a glut of applications. No one with prior inter county experience applied, and while Jayo was the better standalone manager, the backroom teams are a big deal and this likely got him over the line.

Lot of work ahead of him. He already was a Senior voce in the dressing room, now it needs to be that but from a different place. Hope Thomas Galligan gets tempted back under his clubmate, James Smith too, and some others who don't commit might come in. The supposed issues between Crosserlough and Gowna players needs to be sorted as this is a problem. He needs to be changing that team up, integrating youth and players who can come in and do a job. Might see a few retire unless he gets them to help a year or two to transition during this 3 year spell. All the best to him. It's different, so hope it works. I'll be supporting him from the start anyway and hope he sees what is needed and gets us going again.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Look-Up! on August 25, 2023, 08:26:26 AM
Bit of a punt is putting it mildly but from the very start of the process the word on the street was that chairman was very keen on him and pushed it from the off. I'd have zero faith in this chairman BTW.

Backroom team looks ok if they stay as is and work together. Like any management team in any walk of life the person at the top sets the tone and it can't be overstated how crucial a role of manager is. Very strong people skills required, that's where I'd worry. If it goes pear shaped I'd also worry this chairman won't act. But he's in now and best of luck to him. If he can get us playing well, integrate new players and achieve decent results people with jump onboard very quickly.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: marty34 on August 25, 2023, 09:36:28 AM
Manager is important but need a real good committed panel of players to develop.

Need a 3 year plan.

1st Year - consolidate league position/get promotion (dependent on county)

Year 2 - progress from Year 1, whatever that is.

Limerick have great management team - Kiely, Kinnerk, Currid etc. but it should be remembered that they have a special, once-in-a-lifetime set of players, who, incidentially, came through a great academy.

Cavan need to be patient and progress slowly.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Look-Up! on August 25, 2023, 10:02:21 AM
Every situation is different. Sometimes patience is required, sometimes proactivity.

This is a complete and utter leap of faith. If it blows up spectacularly, patience will be a forgone conclusion and I don't believe this chairman will admit mistake. That's my big worry and could have disastrous consequences for player drop off and commitment.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Look-Up! on August 25, 2023, 10:04:40 AM
The die is cast at this stage anyway.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dreadnought on August 25, 2023, 11:31:19 AM
Quote from: Look-Up! on August 25, 2023, 10:02:21 AM
Every situation is different. Sometimes patience is required, sometimes proactivity.

This is a complete and utter leap of faith. If it blows up spectacularly, patience will be a forgone conclusion and I don't believe this chairman will admit mistake. That's my big worry and could have disastrous consequences for player drop off and commitment.

No harm in trying something though. We've done all the other options with varying levels of failure. For the modicum of success Hyland brought to stabilise, and then the early success of Graham with 2 Ulster finals and 1 win, we've had our share of McGleenans, McElkennon, Andrews etc too. It's the first time in a while we've backed a home manager after a home manager. Simply don't see anything about an outside manager that works for what we need. It might blow up, but I'd rather this than the usual journey men who want the job to tick a box for themselves. Think this setup has enough going for it to work, and at least they're trying something
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Look-Up! on August 25, 2023, 01:12:16 PM
Sure you could say that about anything. Trying something different works sometimes, other times it's just a buzz word for covering up some foolhardy cockamamie endeavour. Or they could just grab the bull by the horns, put a decent plan/vision in place and go out and put all their efforts in finding someone to tie it all together.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Look-Up! on October 10, 2023, 06:44:56 PM
Gowna v Kingscourt final. Gowna very impressive Sunday evening as much as Crosserlough were desperately disappointing. There's a core of 7 or 8 players there for Gowna that have the size, grit, mobility and ball skills fit for IC. Whether they commit to Cavan is another thing. Couldn't say the same about their opponents. Apart from Rehill and the two kids in Boylan and Lovett, there's a few there need to ask themselves some serious questions. Fair enough some things went against them. Referee was a big help to Gowna early on and their kickouts completely malfunctioned but that's part and parcel of any game. Instead of digging in they mentally checked out. Felt very sorry for their young goalkeeper, got absolutely no help from his more experienced team mates. Can't see what else Higgins can do with them. Despite all the hype there's a huge question mark over their future credentials and whether there's actually another title in them.

Kingscourt should put up a good battle in the final. Coming in under the radar and ticking along nicely. I actually missed most of the game but they got a good core of players there with plenty of size and experience. Ramor are not what they used to be but still a tough nut to crack. But they've lost too much up front in Brady, McEvoy, Cadden with Cole on the wane, to be serious contenders. Caffrey a huge huge loss round the middle too. 

Lacken back to intermediate. Tough battle in Mullahoran Sunday. Close for long periods but Mullahoran showed more on the day. Some of the young lads off the bench were excellent and Cormac O'Reilly was brilliant. Was the difference in the end. Lacken probably deserve to be there. They've run the gauntlet long enough where relegation is concerned and the well finally ran dry this year. Still will be a serious outfit for intermediate and probably not a bad place to blood some fresh legs.

Could be two crackers in store for next weekend. Arva too good for Junior but Knockbride are a coming team and hopefully put it up to them. Denn a very good young team with plenty of experience and power too. Ballyhaise need to win you feel so serious pressure on them. Should make for great entertainment. 
 
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Look-Up! on October 17, 2023, 02:39:33 PM
Good wins for Arva and Ballyhaise at weekend.

Arva too strong for Knockbride, working some nice scores with some very impressive performers on the day. Knockbride made a battle of it to stay in touch but you always felt Arva were in control.

Very disappointing intermediate final played in perfect conditions for football. Don't want to be too critical but it was truly awful error ridden stuff at times. Denn showed nothing but were still well in the game before midway through the second half when Ballyhaise had a purple patch, reeling off a run of scores to put the game to bed. Ballyhaise the much bigger side and it told in the end with Denn struggling badly to make any sort of inroads past the opposition 50. You always felt the men in green and gold had a few more gears in them, though they never got out of first and made it very uncomfortable viewing for their followers for 50 mins or so. 
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on October 21, 2023, 06:05:11 PM
Well that's a shocking draw for Cavan in Ulster. I don't recall ever seeing a worse one.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on October 22, 2023, 11:04:56 AM
Is the new manager Raymond Galligan?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on October 22, 2023, 02:47:42 PM
Quote from: Itchy on October 21, 2023, 06:05:11 PMWell that's a shocking draw for Cavan in Ulster. I don't recall ever seeing a worse one.
Absolute nightmare.

We've had our fair share of soft ones too, tbf. The only good thing is that, if it wasn't the case already, it will really focus minds on the league and the need to hit the ground running in Division 2 to secure a run in the Sam Maguire. After that, anything we do in the Ulster SFC is a nice bonus.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dreadnought on October 23, 2023, 11:31:31 AM
Quote from: Itchy on October 21, 2023, 06:05:11 PMWell that's a shocking draw for Cavan in Ulster. I don't recall ever seeing a worse one.
I don't think it could be worse if they tried. Need to potentially beat 4 Division 1 teams to win Ulster (that's if Armagh go up a few months before). Sure look, just give it a rattle. We always get it up for Monaghan and if that focusses the mind, we might get somewhere or at least be ready for hopefully a Sam Maguire campaign after an expected Ulster exit. See how lopsided Munster is though and how they seed their draw isn't right though. If the prize for all provinces is 2 spots for their finalists, then there needs to be some sort of alignment in structure as much as possible.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Look-Up! on October 26, 2023, 07:05:18 PM
Serious performance from Gowna in final, Kingscourt had no answer once they let in that stupid 2-1. Thought the loss of Conor Brady might give the stars some sort of foothold back again but Gowna became even more dominant. They looked overloaded every time they went forward. 5 goals is an unusual haul but they could have got double that if they were pushed. Young team full of running, football and divilment, if they stick together will be a force for years. Ulster another matter though, slow starts won't do there. Interesting to gauge exactly where Cavan club football's at when they meet Donegal champions.   

Really tough draw next year for Cavan although form and position mean nothing when Cavan and Monaghan meet. But if we do get over them that's as far as it goes. I'd be worried about next year TBH, really not expecting much. We'll see what the buy in to squad is like. Might not be so easy enticing lads into it but we do need fresh legs and faces. Beating Louth and Fermanagh would go a long way to securing Div 2 status and on the face of it doesn't sound so daunting but we'll see. Wouldn't be overly disappointed to be in TC especially if it's a largely new team and we give it a serious go.   
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on December 01, 2023, 06:29:06 PM
Well lads, any news leaking out about the new county setup yet? Any additions, subtraction, losses, gains or new developments?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on January 02, 2024, 09:29:26 AM
So I've heard Cavan played Dublin in a challenge and were hammered 6-13 to 0-7. I think they also played Sligo and drew with them.

Derry in McKenna Cup tomorrow will tell us more.

I think we really need to go for it in the league, The championship route in Ulster looks really difficult. We need to make sure we are mid table Div 2 minimum.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Blowitupref on January 02, 2024, 03:41:20 PM
Two experienced campaigners Gearoid McKiernan,Conor Moynagh not part of Cavan panel for 2024.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Cunny Funt on January 20, 2024, 05:17:13 PM
Was Paraic Farrelly a poster on here? Loads of Gaa related tweets he had. He died suddenly RIP.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: intheknowhow on January 20, 2024, 05:20:25 PM
Quote from: Cunny Funt on January 20, 2024, 05:17:13 PMWas Paraic Farrelly a poster on here? Loads of Gaa related tweets he had. He died suddenly RIP.

Seen that. Not sure. I thought his Twitter was a parody for a long time
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on January 20, 2024, 07:24:04 PM
Don't believe he was ever on the board here so far as I never saw anyone post anything like what he was putting on twitter. RIP
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: square_ball on January 20, 2024, 07:32:16 PM
His tweets would always pop up on twitter. Seemed to be a big fan of Petey Harte. RIP.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dreadnought on January 21, 2024, 04:00:59 PM
Quote from: Cunny Funt on January 20, 2024, 05:17:13 PMWas Paraic Farrelly a poster on here? Loads of Gaa related tweets he had. He died suddenly RIP.
Interacted loads of times with him on twitter and he was always good and he knew his stuff even of we didn't always agree. A Cavan GAA man through and through, and highly respected all over the GAA community based on the tributes to him. A loss overall, don't know if he was on here or HS, but he was a good man. RIP Paraic
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dreadnought on January 26, 2024, 06:41:01 AM
Well lads, how we feeling for the year ahead? Hard to know where we'll be. First things first, stay in Division 2 minimum and see from there. Some games can be targeted, and if we get results against certain team, then grab a few others who knows where we'll be.

On to Saturday anyway. Strong team named. Holla straight back in (there's captain material right there) while McVeety named first time this year. We usually go badly v Kildare but really good opportunity here seeing as they're really not at home either. Start the League off well and see from there. Think we'll sneak it
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: square_ball on January 26, 2024, 08:12:10 AM
Quote from: Dreadnought on January 21, 2024, 04:00:59 PM
Quote from: Cunny Funt on January 20, 2024, 05:17:13 PMWas Paraic Farrelly a poster on here? Loads of Gaa related tweets he had. He died suddenly RIP.
Interacted loads of times with him on twitter and he was always good and he knew his stuff even of we didn't always agree. A Cavan GAA man through and through, and highly respected all over the GAA community based on the tributes to him. A loss overall, don't know if he was on here or HS, but he was a good man. RIP Paraic

He'd have been a happy man seeing Petey Harte getting the Tyrone captaincy this year. Every Tyrone related tweet seemed to be him calling for him to be captain.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dreadnought on January 28, 2024, 10:11:51 AM
Quote from: Dreadnought on January 26, 2024, 06:41:01 AMWell lads, how we feeling for the year ahead? Hard to know where we'll be. First things first, stay in Division 2 minimum and see from there. Some games can be targeted, and if we get results against certain team, then grab a few others who knows where we'll be.

On to Saturday anyway. Strong team named. Holla straight back in (there's captain material right there) while McVeety named first time this year. We usually go badly v Kildare but really good opportunity here seeing as they're really not at home either. Start the League off well and see from there. Think we'll sneak it
Jeez lads but it's great waking up in good humour after a win like that last night. Buzzing after it. Had a feeling we'd win that and Kildare look poor already. That's a great bolt for players and Galligan especially. Hopefully that focuses minds and no reason we can't consolidate early and even push for the upper end of the table. We look strong with our top senior players looking good, hopefully a portent of things to come
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: cavanmaniac on January 28, 2024, 06:06:14 PM
Didn't see it but reading between the lines of comments and reports, key takeaways are that we're trying to attack a bit instead of the listless metronomic shuffleball we'd resorted to under Graham; by all accounts we defended resolutely away from home; we've two points banked at the first time of asking under a rookie manager, in a division where round one results suggest the going will be very hot and heavy betimes.

The team was always likely to be amped up for the first game and Donegal next weekend at Breffni is a huge step up, but you'd happily go along to support any team that gives it a lash and dies with its boots on. I think that's the minimum requirement for fans.

Well done to the players and management, something we can build on and a small bit of positivity about the place at last is a refreshing change of outlook.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on January 28, 2024, 08:42:49 PM
I was down at it. It was a really good performance and you'd have to be happy with how we played. We were excellent defensively, never gave them a sniff of a goal. Lots of great performances. Our counter attack and general attack was pretty good too. Gerry Smith, Holla, Carolan and mcvetty brilliantly breaking lines, winning frees or getting scores. Lynch was excellent from frees. A real good show. Watched cork today against Donegal, cork were dire. We can be much better than them in Breffni next weekend and really give Donegal a proper test.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Look-Up! on January 29, 2024, 10:02:34 AM
Excellent game and performance. Early days to be getting too excited, but already speed and intensity looks way above Div3 levels and the quality of play too (from both teams), so hopefully this is where we stay long term.

Was a bit worried we'd go very defensive with a fear of losing but the opposite was the case. Set up very positive, broke well and kept men in their half at all times. Took some great scores, tackled and defended well and managed the game in an assured fashion especially second half when it looked like they were getting into it and coming back at us.

Watched a bit of Cork and Donegal. A lot of twists and turns yet but thought Donegal looked fairly mean and Div1 bound so how we go against them will be a good gauge. Hopefully the good performance in Carlow and Jimmy McGuinness factor generates a bit of interest and we get a good vocal home turnout next Sunday evening but pricing will be a factor. No two ways about it, it's steep.
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on January 29, 2024, 05:14:35 PM
Sounded good on the radio but sunday will be tough against DL AND the hard press.
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For those at the game, did not looking to Geroid to save  us free the team up?
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Dreadnought on February 17, 2024, 09:36:53 PM
Ah what a win down in Cork. That's just great stuff. Rode our luck a bit 1st half, but great bottle go come back from 3 down a few times to win it. Heart attack stuff in injury time but you'd dine out on that all day long. 2 wins from 3, you'd be looking upwards now and sure why not!
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Itchy on February 17, 2024, 09:43:39 PM
Brilliant result. You have to admire the heart and fight. To get those 2 points in injury time was a great reflection on the lads attitude. If we could turn over Louth next weekend we'd be really in with a shout for promotion
Title: Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on February 18, 2024, 06:03:13 PM
Now settle lads, only the league.  Woo  Hoo.
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